| 00:01.26 | Chompers | Antiarc: Threat-1.0-44136 (Threat-1.0):282: bad argument #1 to 'setmetatable' (table expected, got number) |
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| 00:02.55 | NeoTron | so |
| 00:03.13 | NeoTron | once upon a time bigwigs used to announce who nightbane targeted with the skeletons.. it no longer does that |
| 00:03.17 | NeoTron | any idea why? |
| 00:03.36 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44146 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: AltNames.lua: added /altnames listalts <charname> - lists all alts linked to <charname> nicely; readded colouring; minor changes to findalts (cosmetic) |
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| 00:04.39 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: nice |
| 00:06.12 | vhaarr | NeoTron: it's not player-targetted any more |
| 00:06.13 | vhaarr | it's targetted on an area |
| 00:06.24 | vhaarr | i.e. if you get hit by it |
| 00:06.26 | vhaarr | you can just move |
| 00:06.30 | vhaarr | and it won't hit you |
| 00:06.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Chompers: update, should be fixed about 10 minutes ago. |
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| 00:08.37 | NeoTron | oooh |
| 00:08.37 | NeoTron | ok |
| 00:08.41 | NeoTron | that explains a few things |
| 00:09.00 | NeoTron | is it possible to warn if it's on you, like charred earth? |
| 00:09.15 | vhaarr | only after you take a tick of damage |
| 00:09.19 | vhaarr | which makes it useless |
| 00:09.38 | NeoTron | wouldn't say it's useless since it can be hard to notice |
| 00:09.44 | vhaarr | I would |
| 00:09.51 | vhaarr | and I would say lern2read your combat log |
| 00:09.54 | sb | hmmm well - it doesnt do that much damage |
| 00:11.00 | vhaarr | yeah it's nothing |
| 00:11.11 | vhaarr | NeoTron: you're probably confusing it with the smoking blasts |
| 00:11.33 | vhaarr | that is targetted, however |
| 00:11.35 | NeoTron | nah I know the difference... I remember it being an issue |
| 00:11.50 | vhaarr | shouldn't be an issue, the damage is hardly noticable |
| 00:11.52 | NeoTron | but perhaps it's nerfed to a level where it doesn't matter |
| 00:12.04 | vhaarr | yeah it used to be a lot |
| 00:12.13 | vhaarr | but they nerfed it the same patch they nerfed limited invul pots, IIRC |
| 00:12.17 | NeoTron | nightbane is so easy now |
| 00:12.22 | sb | yup... |
| 00:12.30 | NeoTron | although.. with a pally tank it's even more fun |
| 00:12.43 | NeoTron | twiddlign thumbs for >15s or rather dpsing nightbane ni the air |
| 00:12.48 | NeoTron | while waiting for him to come back down |
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| 00:15.54 | sb | but they also change his cleave ability :/ |
| 00:17.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: TONS of Threat errors with 44144 |
| 00:20.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc|Work you may know - but tons (a couple hundred) errors in latest threat, something about Indexes |
| 00:21.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I can't provide you with pastey at the moment because I'm getting my guild reverted to be able to raid at all. |
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| 00:30.11 | Neebler | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 00:36.08 | Javek | I'm trying to detect if a mob is dual-wielding, UnitAttackSpeed() doesn't appear to return anything for units besides the player. Any ideas? |
| 00:36.36 | JoshBorke | Javek: are you sure it's possible? |
| 00:36.47 | JoshBorke | i don't think it's possible |
| 00:37.04 | Javek | damn |
| 00:37.40 | Thelyna | ZealotOnAStick: 44144 is working fine for me, is it a raid-instance only thing? |
| 00:38.32 | ZealotOnAStick | It -may- be an issue of having pitbull/aloft with an older threat revision with Omen having current, I'm about to find out. |
| 00:38.35 | ZealotOnAStick | See if I lock up again. |
| 00:39.29 | Thelyna | I'm running pitbull with an older version of threat, in theory the older version of threat should be thrown away when the new one loads? |
| 00:40.25 | aen` | anyone work extensive in audio and or cue sheets? |
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| 00:42.58 | Kalman| | aen`: Used to, why? |
| 00:43.13 | aen` | need a cue splitter that allows transcoding |
| 00:43.57 | Javek | UnitAttackSpeed returns other people's mainhand speed, but not their offhand even if they have one : \ |
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| 00:44.15 | aen` | or something that allows VBR |
| 00:44.30 | Kalman| | You have a totally different of a cue sheet than me, I think. |
| 00:45.37 | Gagorian | Javek umm what? |
| 00:46.24 | sb | uhm Javek |
| 00:46.38 | sb | #api UnitAttackSpeed |
| 00:46.57 | JoshBorke | !api UnitAttackSpeed |
| 00:46.57 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: mainSpeed, offSpeed = UnitAttackSpeed("unit"); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitAttackSpeed |
| 00:47.25 | sb | mhpf okay |
| 00:48.52 | Javek | sb, I know, it says verified for player/target, yet targets don't return an offhand speed when they have one, only the player |
| 00:49.04 | JoshBorke | is the target in your faction? |
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| 00:49.48 | Javek | yes |
| 00:49.56 | Javek | though i want it to work for mobs too |
| 00:50.28 | JoshBorke | it's not going to work for mobs |
| 00:50.45 | Javek | ok |
| 00:56.32 | loonacy | Hooray for hard locks! |
| 00:57.26 | Antiarc | loonacy: If you're using Threat or a mod that does, update it |
| 00:57.37 | Antiarc | I goofed and managed to put in an infinite loop a couple of hours ago |
| 00:57.58 | NeoTron | I'm a 'lock that rocks. is that also good? ;-) |
| 00:58.22 | loonacy | Yeah, just found that out. After disabling/enabling every mod in my mod list. |
| 00:58.39 | loonacy | I still love ya, though. |
| 00:58.42 | Antiarc | heheh |
| 01:00.48 | break19 | Antiarc made a goof in his code? nooooooo.. he IS human *cry* |
| 01:01.01 | Antiarc | I goof quite a bit >_> |
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| 01:02.01 | break19 | true, but those usually dont make it out of yer personal svn, and onto the server, at least everything I've used seems to work just fine :) |
| 01:02.14 | Antiarc | The wowace SVN is my "personal" svn ;) |
| 01:02.20 | Antiarc | I don't use my personal SVN for threat |
| 01:03.23 | break19 | heh |
| 01:03.46 | break19 | has anyone fixed als yet? *looks square at kemayo* |
| 01:04.14 | loonacy | I updated my mods, hopped on, guildies invited me to tank for a G5 quest... In the middle of battle, everything locks up.... luckily they were able to finish the rest of the fight, and I guess I managed to hold aggro even though I was offline. |
| 01:04.53 | break19 | loonacy: hooray for massive threat generation |
| 01:05.35 | break19 | Kemayo: hows the "real fix" for als comin, as opposed to the rollback ya did? |
| 01:07.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: it's sort of impressive to manage to hard lock wow with an addon. |
| 01:08.05 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: while true do end |
| 01:08.34 | ZealotOnAStick | ehh, I've seen plenty of crashes, but this is the first hard-lock I can remember getting from addons. |
| 01:08.51 | Antiarc | I usually catch them in testing |
| 01:08.54 | Antiarc | But I drycoded that |
| 01:08.56 | Antiarc | Bad me. |
| 01:11.38 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44147 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to TPS in the first timeslice |
| 01:13.12 | Thelyna | how long is the first timeslice, antiarc? |
| 01:13.19 | Thelyna | wondering if it's worth updating just for that |
| 01:13.31 | Antiarc | First 20 threat events |
| 01:14.04 | NeoTron | I think it's about time to make everyone use Threat-1.0 soon |
| 01:14.09 | Thelyna | which is going to be what about five seconds tops? |
| 01:14.13 | NeoTron | I hate getting ktm-infected data |
| 01:14.15 | Antiarc | Depends on the class |
| 01:14.20 | NeoTron | that messes up the threat displays |
| 01:14.25 | Antiarc | Shadow priest can hit 20 in no time flat |
| 01:14.38 | Antiarc | A 2h warrior will take a while longer |
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| 01:27.44 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r44148 10CrushChance/ (CrushChance.toc main.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:27.44 | CIA-22 | CrushChance: |
| 01:27.44 | CIA-22 | * Left-Click to toggle dual wielding |
| 01:27.44 | CIA-22 | * Mod-Click or Right-Click to move |
| 01:27.44 | CIA-22 | * Automatically adjusts for target level |
| 01:27.45 | CIA-22 | * Removed obsoleted console commands. |
| 01:27.48 | CIA-22 | * Uses talent defense for warriors and paladins |
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| 01:28.31 | KriLL3 | mod click? |
| 01:31.09 | Wobwork | hm |
| 01:31.09 | Wobwork | http://random.irb.hr/ |
| 01:31.44 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 07Individuality * r44149 10AuldLangSyne/ (Fu/Fu.lua Sync/Sync.lua): |
| 01:31.44 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 01:31.44 | CIA-22 | -Fu: Fix misplaced db registration |
| 01:31.44 | CIA-22 | -Sync: Fix missing localizations. |
| 01:38.43 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Was there a "Bad argument to setmetatable" bug in 44136? |
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| 01:39.15 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 01:39.18 | Antiarc | And a hardlock |
| 01:39.27 | Antiarc | So I sorta recommend updating! :D |
| 01:39.32 | Kalman| | Nice! |
| 01:39.37 | PHL-Chuck | ckknight: parrot's abbreviation for Mangle is showing as M() |
| 01:39.39 | Kalman| | Guildie has it, not me. I wonder if I should tell him. :p |
| 01:40.11 | Antiarc | I'd recommend it |
| 01:40.43 | Kalman| | Yeah, I'm not *quite* that cruel. |
| 01:41.42 | Javek | err, mod-click = alt or shift or ctrl modifier down |
| 01:42.40 | Javek | Think I should call it something other than CrushChance? I was thinking HitMe |
| 01:42.55 | Wobwork | what's it do? |
| 01:43.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44150 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added Encounter TPS column. Added a skin patcher to incorporate skin template changes smoothly. |
| 01:43.34 | Wobwork | You could be even more obscure and call it "RhythmStick" |
| 01:44.24 | Antiarc | Call it Hammertime |
| 01:44.29 | Antiarc | (Because you can't touch this) |
| 01:44.36 | Wobwork | doo dood ododoo |
| 01:44.38 | Wobwork | doo doo |
| 01:44.39 | Kalman| | Call it Stop! Hammertime. |
| 01:45.03 | Antiarc | If you don't I'll need to think of a mod to write so I can use that name |
| 01:45.22 | Antiarc | Maybe a mace spec stun diminishing returns timer |
| 01:45.33 | Kalman| | Hammer of Wrath cooldown display. |
| 01:45.40 | Antiarc | Ooh, nice. |
| 01:45.46 | Kalman| | Slash popup when they go into Wrath range (health-wise). |
| 01:46.17 | Wobwork | Have it play the song snippet each time it procs/coolsdown |
| 01:46.39 | Kalman| | "Oh oh, oh oh, oh oh!" for cooldown, "Stop! Hammertime" for when you hit range. |
| 01:46.42 | Javek | lol |
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| 01:50.05 | Karai | Hello, anyone around? :D |
| 01:50.40 | Antiarc | Nobody here but us chickens |
| 01:50.45 | Karai | :o |
| 01:51.06 | Karai | I had a question about the mod 'Omen' or 'Threat 1.0' |
| 01:51.10 | Wobwork | *werk* |
| 01:51.14 | Antiarc | That'd be me. |
| 01:51.20 | RogueShadow | Parrot is coming along well it seems. |
| 01:51.28 | Karai | I noticed, as a pally tank, that even though i am holding aggro, I am at the bottom of the list, so i assume it doesn;t register righteous fury? |
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| 01:51.38 | Antiarc | It should be. Are you using the latest version? |
| 01:51.56 | Karai | No, I jsut downloaded it a few moments ago, the one I am currently running is r43327 |
| 01:52.04 | RogueShadow | Latest version. lol, makes me laugh. When was that written? 5 minutes ago. |
| 01:52.09 | Antiarc | Hrm. That's a little out of date, but not too badly. |
| 01:52.09 | Karai | XD |
| 01:52.12 | Antiarc | RogueShadow: Shhh. :P |
| 01:52.20 | Antiarc | I'll take another look at pally threat, but it seemed right last I checked |
| 01:52.29 | Antiarc | Grab an update, see if it works for you |
| 01:52.35 | Antiarc | If not, please let me know |
| 01:52.43 | Karai | kk |
| 01:52.56 | Karai | 44143? |
| 01:53.14 | RogueShadow | What's the best way to suggest something about assessment to roar*? whatever his name is. |
| 01:53.17 | RogueShadow | forums? |
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| 01:53.25 | Antiarc | 44147's the absolute latest |
| 01:53.34 | Antiarc | May not have propagated to WAU yet |
| 01:54.08 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 07Individuality * r44151 10AuldLangSyne/ (5 files in 5 dirs): AuldLangSyne: Add optdeps to module tocs, suitable for solo running. |
| 01:54.42 | Karai | 44143 is th eonyl one on wowace afaik |
| 01:54.43 | RogueShadow | I'm glad you mentioned that Antiarc, ckknight failed to mention that to me once, and spent a bit of time looking for a bug he just fixed. |
| 01:54.51 | Wobwork | roartadin? |
| 01:55.01 | RogueShadow | Wobwork: I think that's it yeah. |
| 01:55.10 | Wobwork | not sure on that spelling though =) |
| 01:55.12 | RogueShadow | Roartindon actually. |
| 01:55.16 | RogueShadow | I found it. |
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| 01:55.29 | RogueShadow | ~seen Roartindon |
| 01:55.50 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-104-205.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 9h 31m 24s ago, saying: 'Antiarc|Work: Ah, I misunderstood the bracketing of your comment :P'. |
| 01:55.50 | RogueShadow | ... hmm. guess that doesn't work. |
| 01:55.56 | Wobwork | just takes time |
| 01:57.02 | RogueShadow | Well it's clear the irc chat room isn't the right place. I'll try the forums if I can't find wiki's. |
| 01:57.21 | Antiarc | Pally threat seems to check out fine over here |
| 01:57.25 | Antiarc | With both RF on and off. |
| 01:57.45 | Karai | Hmm |
| 01:57.53 | Karai | I'll try out *43 then |
| 01:58.01 | Karai | and wait for *47 to upload |
| 01:58.03 | Antiarc | Are your other groupmates using KTM, and is it a multi-mob pull? |
| 01:58.10 | BankZZ | can you disable the timerbars in BigWigs? |
| 01:58.39 | BankZZ | I dont see a disable option |
| 01:58.40 | Wobwork | BankZZ: It's an option, isn't it? |
| 01:59.15 | Karai | I have no idea what my groups are using, prolly ktm, but the druid was level 70, and i am currently 60, and i had aggro over him at like 3.1k while he showed up as 7.8k, fighting 3 mobs and I was consecrating the hell out of things so... :P |
| 01:59.20 | JoshBorke | wtf. why does my BugGRabber FuBarPlugin keep moving around the gd minimap? |
| 01:59.43 | Antiarc | Karai: That's probably it. KTM reports all threat done to all mobs as your threat number, but Threat-1.0 reports your threat per-mob |
| 01:59.57 | Antiarc | So you may have had 3.1k threat on your target, but the druid had done 7.8k threat between three targets. |
| 02:00.05 | Karai | Aah |
| 02:00.15 | Karai | That could be it thne |
| 02:00.17 | Antiarc | If there's a * next to their name in Omen, it means that they're using KTM |
| 02:00.28 | Karai | I didn't see a * |
| 02:00.49 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 02:00.57 | Karai | Also, I noticed with RF on I used Avenging shield, critting for 900~ and only doing 900~ threat :P |
| 02:01.06 | Karai | Shoudl have been closer to 2k |
| 02:01.11 | Karai | 1.7 or something |
| 02:01.13 | Antiarc | Yes, certainly. Hm. |
| 02:01.25 | Karai | But I;ll test out *43 right nwo |
| 02:01.29 | Antiarc | Try going out and bodypulling a mob with Ret aura on and RF up |
| 02:01.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc, you see the "threat hud" that popped up recently? |
| 02:01.35 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Link? |
| 02:01.48 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: I had the author of one contact me, and I helped him integrate Threat-1.0 support |
| 02:01.51 | Antiarc | But I dunno which one it is |
| 02:02.38 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't recall, saw it yesterday, it'll take values from both ktm and threat |
| 02:02.45 | Antiarc | Yeah, that's probably the same one |
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| 02:03.23 | Karai | yeah |
| 02:03.26 | Karai | this verson works now |
| 02:03.27 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44152 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Prat.lua: metadata update (added URLs for forum, issues, Google Groups; updated authors list) |
| 02:03.28 | Karai | :D |
| 02:03.38 | Karai | 44143 shows RF data |
| 02:04.00 | Karai | shield, ret aura, and a single judgement put me over 5k threat :P |
| 02:04.12 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44153 10AuldLangSyne/ (12 files in 5 dirs): AuldLangSyne: Get our mergey-merge on. |
| 02:04.21 | Antiarc | Excellent |
| 02:04.24 | Kemayo | break19: There you go, it should work now. |
| 02:04.28 | Antiarc | Please let me know if you run into any more problems. |
| 02:04.34 | Karai | okay |
| 02:04.36 | Karai | thanks again <3 |
| 02:04.36 | break19 | Kemayo: great :) |
| 02:05.08 | Karai | nearly in tears when i saw our healer had 2k threat more than i did XD |
| 02:05.32 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44154 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: metadata updates (minor) |
| 02:05.39 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44155 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for GetTPS() without a target |
| 02:05.44 | BankZZ | done, I dont see an option to disable timers in BigWigs |
| 02:05.52 | Wobwork | Karai: there are times when you just ignore threat data =P |
| 02:06.06 | Karai | :P yeah |
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| 02:07.33 | BankZZ | so, no way to disable? |
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| 02:11.16 | Kemayo | vhaarr: okay, *now* you should be able to use any of ALS's modules individually, without even the core bogging you down. |
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| 02:17.49 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44156 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
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| 02:35.31 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44157 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix to TPS display error without a target |
| 02:36.49 | Pkekyo | anyone here know SpamMeNot |
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| 02:38.48 | Pkekyo | wtb Octane666 |
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| 02:39.21 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: you there? |
| 02:39.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: yo? |
| 02:39.46 | Pkekyo | err...you don't happen to know SpamMeNot? |
| 02:40.01 | NightHawkTheSane | No, I don't... |
| 02:40.04 | Pkekyo | damn |
| 02:40.34 | Pkekyo | alot of times, it causes incoming whispers to be printed twice or more...and it won't stop spamming people who send me !craft queries with the reply from cList 2 :< |
| 02:41.34 | Pkekyo | it's really fucking bad for buisness x) |
| 02:41.52 | NightHawkTheSane | don't use it? |
| 02:42.36 | Pkekyo | gonna disable it...but never having to see goldspam is just too pleasant |
| 02:43.00 | Arrowmaster | then why didnt you use spamsentry? |
| 02:43.02 | NightHawkTheSane | try spamsentry? |
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| 02:44.02 | Killmore | Antiarc: Omen is working so great on loot reaver ! |
| 02:44.12 | Antiarc | \o/ |
| 02:45.33 | Pkekyo | loot reaver? :> |
| 02:47.14 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 02:47.28 | Pkekyo | so basically... spamsentry can do anything spammenot did? |
| 02:49.10 | NightHawkTheSane | probably, and probably better. |
| 02:49.44 | Shirik | and on that note |
| 02:49.46 | Shirik | thank you, good night |
| 02:49.54 | Pkekyo | g'nite |
| 02:50.01 | Pkekyo | meh, this is a shitty time of night to wake up >.< |
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| 02:50.26 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc, 44155 giving math_table nil for us in raid :( |
| 02:50.43 | Antiarc | Omen issue, fix already committed |
| 02:50.47 | Antiarc | Err wait |
| 02:50.48 | Antiarc | I think |
| 02:50.54 | KarlThePagan | err rather math_floor |
| 02:50.59 | KarlThePagan | ok lemme upddate thx |
| 02:52.01 | NimbleRabit | is there some way to customize a bigwigs module to make a certain event play a noise? |
| 02:52.29 | NimbleRabit | or make it really really big perhaps |
| 02:52.51 | NimbleRabit | specifically, spitfire totem alert isn't obvious enough |
| 02:53.26 | PHL-Chuck | whats the etiquette for talking to an author about addon? make a reply on a thread or is it ok to whisper them here |
| 02:53.51 | kaiden | What's the current best wardrobe management addon? :) |
| 02:54.02 | PHL-Chuck | closetgnome works fine for me |
| 02:54.03 | Pkekyo | PHL-Chuck: I've found it quite efficient to scream for help in this channels :p |
| 02:54.11 | NimbleRabit | kaiden: closetgnome is fine |
| 02:54.26 | PHL-Chuck | Pkekyo: Ya, but I always feel like I'm bugging them |
| 02:54.27 | Pkekyo | closetgnome is nice...simple, yet functional |
| 02:55.01 | Pkekyo | PHL-Chuck: don't...if they joined this channel, they gotta be ready for a few questions :> |
| 02:56.43 | Pkekyo | I'd certainly expect help-queries about my addons... |
| 02:56.43 | Pkekyo | although I probably wouldn't know jack shit about how to fix stuff :p |
| 02:56.52 | Antiarc | KarlThePagan: Did that fix it? |
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| 02:57.58 | NightHawkTheSane | god.fucking.dammit.my.space.bar.died. |
| 02:58.33 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: I feel your pain |
| 02:59.04 | Wobwork | Obviously you don't =) |
| 02:59.19 | Wobwork | unless you're using ctrl-v to put spaces in =) |
| 02:59.33 | Pkekyo | he's using periods |
| 02:59.42 | Wobwork | but you're not |
| 03:00.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, you seem perfectly capable of typing space, also, using cmd-v sucks. |
| 03:00.10 | Wobwork | how can you empathise with him when you're blatently using spaces! |
| 03:00.21 | Wobwork | You're mocking his spacebarlessness! |
| 03:00.49 | Pkekyo | Wobwork: previous keyboard |
| 03:01.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: i should totally shove my space bar up your nose. |
| 03:01.11 | Wobwork | Maybe if you hit it harder =) |
| 03:01.31 | Pkekyo | had a HP keyboard that lost functionality of the spacebar along with several other buttons >.< |
| 03:01.42 | PHL-Chuck | Stop playing Blood and Night elves.. |
| 03:01.46 | PHL-Chuck | Jump addition |
| 03:01.51 | PHL-Chuck | addiction :/ |
| 03:02.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: scarily, i tried that. |
| 03:02.18 | Wobwork | It's the standard response =) |
| 03:02.31 | Wobwork | Do the male bloodelves have the same marypoppins midair spin? |
| 03:02.33 | NightHawkTheSane | This is the second keyboard i've gone through in a year. >< |
| 03:02.39 | Wobwork | daskeyboard.com |
| 03:02.42 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc, it works for me... our MT says no :( |
| 03:02.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: yes |
| 03:02.44 | KarlThePagan | not sure |
| 03:02.48 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 03:02.49 | Wobwork | speaking of... I need to order one of those |
| 03:02.58 | KarlThePagan | err looks like he's OT tonight ;) |
| 03:03.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: not enough keys for me :P |
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| 03:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Most pc keyboards are missing an extra Fkey and a row of four keys above the numpad |
| 03:04.41 | Pkekyo | err....for some reason...I can't type anything in chats ingame >.< |
| 03:04.56 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: say wha? what four keys? |
| 03:05.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: volume up/down, mute, and eject |
| 03:06.05 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/3018.jpg <-- mac keyboard |
| 03:07.12 | Pkekyo | ah...I have them positioned elsewhere...except for the eject thingie :< |
| 03:07.46 | NightHawkTheSane | I've gotten rather used to the keyboard. *shrug* |
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| 03:11.57 | NightHawkTheSane | This is going to put a real dent in the work i was planning on doing tonight. >< |
| 03:12.24 | kaiden | hrm, Any of the closetgnome authors around, found a slight bug with it |
| 03:13.24 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: You need a new Mac keyboard? |
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| 03:13.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: Yes, although likely ill just get a cheap pc one from the store down the street tomorrow. |
| 03:14.32 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44158 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua): Omen: Hacky fix to math_floor error |
| 03:15.05 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: This one is yummy http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard_mice_combos/devices/158&cl=us,en |
| 03:15.54 | fireglow | i have that -.- |
| 03:16.06 | fireglow | keyboards quite nice but the mouse sucks |
| 03:16.23 | NightHawkTheSane | wireless keyboards are silly, and i don't need a mouse. :P |
| 03:16.23 | Jaxon | I don't use the mouse, I stuck with the MX Revolution I have. |
| 03:16.40 | fireglow | heh |
| 03:17.02 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: its the first wireless keyboard I've used but for Mac keyboards, I like it the bestest. |
| 03:17.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: I don't really want a wireless keybaord. No Point for a tower, and too much of a hassle. |
| 03:18.01 | RogueShadow | the strangest thing happened to me. My location bar in firefox vanished |
| 03:18.23 | Wobwork | It's behind the couch |
| 03:18.25 | Wobwork | where you left it |
| 03:18.33 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44159 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Proper fix to math_floor error |
| 03:18.39 | RogueShadow | ah, that solves everything thanks. |
| 03:18.42 | Wobwork | np! |
| 03:18.52 | Pkekyo | tbh, wireless is fuckall awesome, even though you have a tower |
| 03:19.06 | Pkekyo | well, atleast if you have as deep and comfy a chair as I do :p |
| 03:19.15 | RogueShadow | The chair is the most important thing. |
| 03:19.20 | Wobwork | so true |
| 03:19.25 | Wobwork | I want to go buy a nicer chair |
| 03:19.35 | RogueShadow | My chair is wobbly, steel, and the wheel's are broken. with no arm or back support. |
| 03:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | For my setup, the keybaord never goes anywhere. So wireless is silly |
| 03:19.53 | vithos | Antiarc: you should make the aggro warnings persist once you've passed 100% |
| 03:21.35 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: still pleasant not to have a fucking million cables lying 'round.... like I do... |
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| 03:22.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: I don't. :) Keyboard plugs into my monitor, same with mouse, so cables arn't a real issue |
| 03:22.19 | NightHawkTheSane | At least in regards to that. |
| 03:22.21 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 03:22.21 | Pkekyo | sounds lice :> |
| 03:22.37 | Pkekyo | what monitor you got? |
| 03:22.46 | vithos | Antiarc: or is that working as intended, so that tanks don't get the warnings? |
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| 03:22.59 | Antiarc | vithos: working as intended, for tanks and for threatless fights |
| 03:23.07 | Antiarc | It'd be severely annoying on something like aran :) |
| 03:23.13 | Antiarc | It's mostly to get you to glance at the meter. |
| 03:23.16 | Antiarc | Sorta a heads-up |
| 03:23.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: 17" Apple LCD Display |
| 03:23.46 | Pkekyo | ah, apple... |
| 03:23.57 | Pkekyo | can't afford that logo :< |
| 03:24.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: Lots of monitors these days have built in usb hubs, though. |
| 03:24.54 | vithos | ah, hm.. ok. i guess it's just my ADD that makes me wish it'd continue heh. today my FD was on cooldown while the warning went off, and by the time it was off cooldown i had forgot about it. |
| 03:25.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Although this monitor, at least, pipes the usb through the ADV connetion |
| 03:26.18 | vithos | watching pet health/mana/pot+rapidfire+beastial wrath+trinket+misdirect cooldowns/fight specific stuff kinda makes me forget to keep an eye on the meter in situations like that |
| 03:30.16 | [FH]Birdemani | damn, acer |
| 03:30.24 | vithos | hunter's mark expiration, mend pet duration, and trying to figure out why other raiders suck so i can tell them how to play, also doesn't help. but maybe it's just me :( anyway i'd appreciate it if you'd think about adding an option, even if disabled by default |
| 03:30.25 | [FH]Birdemani | i remember working on those with win for workgroup |
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| 03:32.17 | Pkekyo | this acer monitor sucks frozen donkeyballs |
| 03:32.48 | Pkekyo | the mount or wtf it's called that it's standing on isn't even connected to the fucking monitor itself! monitor keeps falling over all the time >.< |
| 03:32.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:32.59 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 03:33.03 | Pkekyo | hey ckknight |
| 03:33.05 | ckknight | back from work |
| 03:33.14 | Pkekyo | I'm fuckedup...I for some reason woke up at 4am |
| 03:33.17 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
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| 03:35.32 | Pkekyo | back from work now? what time is it? |
| 03:36.09 | ckknight | 5:36 PM for me |
| 03:36.15 | ckknight | I took a chunk out of my thumb |
| 03:36.17 | Pkekyo | ah...makes sense then :> |
| 03:36.17 | ckknight | blah |
| 03:36.21 | Pkekyo | 536am for me |
| 03:36.26 | ckknight | drill got away from me |
| 03:36.31 | Pkekyo | ouch >.< |
| 03:37.13 | RogueShadow | ouch indeed. |
| 03:37.17 | RogueShadow | That's a coding thumb! |
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| 03:44.37 | Pkekyo | ckknight: you took a chunk out of it, or just gashed it into oblivion? |
| 03:46.53 | ckknight | bit of both |
| 03:47.03 | ckknight | but actually it's not a big chunk |
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| 03:47.21 | ckknight | it'll grow back |
| 03:47.24 | ckknight | hotmail12: change your name |
| 03:47.36 | hotmail12 | what programming laguage does ace use? |
| 03:48.02 | *** part/#wowace hotmail12 (i=hotmail@c-67-186-60-99.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:48.22 | kenlyric | COBOL. |
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| 03:50.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I thought it was an RPG variant? |
| 03:52.28 | hotmail12 | what does () mean? |
| 03:52.39 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: your mom's written in COBOL |
| 03:52.43 | ckknight | hotmail12: it's Lua |
| 03:52.48 | hotmail12 | o |
| 03:52.51 | ckknight | () depends on the context. |
| 03:53.01 | ckknight | also, I told you to change your name |
| 03:53.06 | hotmail12 | how? |
| 03:53.17 | kenlyric | my mom actually knows cobol. |
| 03:53.53 | Drethstoff | ok |
| 03:54.02 | Drethstoff | what does the () do the code? |
| 03:54.23 | kenlyric | first, please tell me what the meaning if "is" is. |
| 03:54.36 | Jaxon | Drethstoff: I'd check out the lua manual at lua.org |
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| 03:55.22 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44160 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Substitutions.lua: |
| 03:55.22 | CIA-22 | Prat: Substitutions.lua: broken some stuff, fixed some stuff - user defined |
| 03:55.22 | CIA-22 | substitutions can now be listed properly; user subs can also be defined as any |
| 03:55.22 | CIA-22 | arbitrary string rather than a fixed string (attempted before, hopefully |
| 03:55.22 | CIA-22 | actually achieved this time); user sub deletion is **broken** but you can |
| 03:55.23 | CIA-22 | happily redefine them |
| 03:55.28 | Drethstoff | is it pretty self exclamatory when u try to learn lua? |
| 03:55.36 | Kemayo | is: Third person singular present indicative of be. |
| 03:56.04 | Aenslaed | has anyone else done supremus this week? |
| 03:57.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Drethstoff: if you're not an idiot, and know something about programming, then yes. |
| 03:57.49 | Drethstoff | ok |
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| 03:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | damn, he left before i could insult him. |
| 03:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | cursed broken space bar. |
| 03:58.25 | Aenslaed | ugh, supremus is doing 2-3 hatefuls on a random melee target :/ |
| 03:58.29 | Aenslaed | gg bug :( |
| 03:58.55 | Birdemani | gg reused game mechanic |
| 03:59.07 | NightHawkTheSane | gg my space bar. :( |
| 04:02.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ill exclaim you |
| 04:02.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ! |
| 04:02.41 | Fin | I want my rapper name to be xClaim |
| 04:07.14 | Pkekyo | can't find the last two fricking skettis talonpriests >.< |
| 04:07.15 | kaiden | please tell me this math.floor bug is fixed in the latest omen |
| 04:07.36 | kaiden | i just joined a group and omens tarted spamming the hell out of my screen |
| 04:07.36 | PHL-Chuck | ckknight: parrot is showing druid mangle as M() |
| 04:09.38 | Fin | oh. I see why my game is crashing with "out of space" now, but only on a particular character. |
| 04:09.50 | Fin | -rwx------ 1 pgl None 883054644 Jul 16 07:53 MoveIt.lua |
| 04:10.12 | Fin | guess I wasn't quite so lucky with that last crash as I thought |
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| 04:16.43 | ckknight | PHL-Chuck: hrm... probably cause it's Mangle (Feral) |
| 04:17.05 | ckknight | PHL-Chuck: I'll fix it |
| 04:17.11 | Gngsk | isn't there Mangle (Bear) and Mangle (Cat) ? |
| 04:18.18 | chuckg | Yep. |
| 04:20.12 | ckknight | for abbreviations, I'm just gonna chop off the parenthesized part |
| 04:20.20 | ckknight | does that seem like it's gonna be an issue? |
| 04:20.38 | ulic | is there an option for abbrev? I didn't see one, but everything is abbreviated now. |
| 04:21.39 | ckknight | there is. |
| 04:22.55 | Gngsk | ckknight, I don't think that'd be an option, it's pretty obvious what form you're in |
| 04:23.06 | Gngsk | s/option/problem/ |
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| 04:27.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44161 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - for abbreviated spells, take out any parenthesized words, e.g. Mangle (Cat) => Mangle. |
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| 04:29.24 | Kemayo | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/71032 while looking at Parrot's waterfall. (Triggers > Clearcasting, to be precise.) |
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| 04:30.01 | ckknight | you're out of date |
| 04:30.10 | ckknight | though actually, it's waterfall's bug |
| 04:30.15 | ckknight | I messaged Nargiddley about it |
| 04:30.25 | ckknight | waterfall doesn't properly pass passValues properly. |
| 04:30.30 | ckknight | which is the issue |
| 04:30.45 | Sole | good day |
| 04:30.56 | Sole | Wobwork: you'll always be hip to me |
| 04:31.12 | Sole | oh shit it doesnt? |
| 04:31.18 | Sole | thats a big one |
| 04:35.37 | Antiarc | So a mage in my raid got tired me of updating Omen between pulls and proccing the out-of-date notice |
| 04:35.51 | Antiarc | So he sent notice that he has Threat v. 1e+160 |
| 04:36.07 | Antiarc | I expect to pass it next Monday. |
| 04:38.04 | Diao | rofl |
| 04:38.20 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44162 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: Alias: ye gods - finally fixed (I hope!) command aliases - it's now possible to just type "/sb" and press enter to say "beer": /alias /sb /say beer is great |
| 04:38.38 | Fin | Mikk: I think Alias should be fixed, now |
| 04:38.52 | Fin | Mikk: bug reports / confirmation of fixedness appreciated |
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| 04:43.44 | NightHawkTheSane | beer IS great. |
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| 04:46.07 | Pkekyo | SHARE |
| 04:46.21 | Pkekyo | nevermind, forgot my liver's fuckedup xD |
| 04:47.30 | Pkekyo | nut funneh |
| 04:47.47 | Xuerian | No alcohol ftw. =X |
| 04:48.47 | NightHawkTheSane | funny to me. P |
| 04:48.49 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 04:48.51 | Pkekyo | fu :< |
| 04:48.56 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 04:50.19 | Pkekyo | someone cut out NightHawkTheSane's liver and mail it to me please? :> |
| 04:52.18 | NightHawkTheSane | but damned if i won't enjoy it :P |
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| 04:54.43 | Pkekyo | what's with american tv channels and covering/hiding logos on clothing, signs and whatever? |
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| 04:56.52 | Aenslaed | many reasons. one is that they never secured the rights (paid money) to use the company's logo |
| 04:56.57 | Mecdemort | because american companies are retarded, instead of wanting free advertising they complain when their logos are used without asking |
| 04:57.32 | Aenslaed | the other is, the logo company might object to having its logo shown/associated with characterists they dont want to be associated with. |
| 04:57.43 | break19 | Mecdemort: problem is.. with copyrights.. if they dont defend their copyrights no matter what the reason.. they then lose those copyrights. |
| 04:57.58 | Pkekyo | refuckingdiculous |
| 04:58.03 | Aenslaed | ie, a serial killer wearing all calvin klein clothing with logos prominently showing |
| 04:58.23 | NightHawkTheSane | "So.. you.. built that stargate?" "Yes." "Waaaay smarter than we are." |
| 04:58.41 | Pkekyo | sg-1 = win |
| 04:58.42 | Trisorion | What is a good customizable minimap? |
| 04:58.44 | break19 | so if little granny decides to put the logo on the hood of her car.. and they dont prosecute it.. they have no legal right to prosecute someone using their logo on.. like what aen said |
| 04:58.45 | Mecdemort | NightHawkTheSane: best line that series imho |
| 04:59.01 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo * r44163 10/branches/Cartographer_Sidelist/: |
| 04:59.01 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 04:59.01 | CIA-22 | - branch creation for ongoing pre-alpha work |
| 04:59.02 | Pkekyo | noway |
| 04:59.15 | Mecdemort | Trisorion: simpleMinimap or Ricominimap is the one i use |
| 04:59.25 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r44164 10Cartographer_Sidelist/: |
| 04:59.25 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 04:59.25 | CIA-22 | - my own little world |
| 04:59.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Mecdemort: hehe, there are lots of good lines :) |
| 04:59.46 | Pkekyo | best line is: (when being imprisoned and taunted by a badguy - dunno how to fucking spell their name) O'neill: YOU ENDED THAT SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION! BASTARD! |
| 05:00.02 | break19 | thing is, MOST companies would want the free advertising, and as such, its usually pretty simple to get "written permission" from the owners of said copyrighted material |
| 05:00.04 | Mecdemort | NightHawkTheSane: they need to get those movies made already, i cant live without stargate |
| 05:00.25 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 05:00.27 | Mecdemort | Pkekyo: ya but i dont think thats the same season |
| 05:00.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Mecdemort: I can live without it. I just want a damn ending that doesn't suck. |
| 05:00.45 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r44165 10UnitActionBars/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:00.45 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 05:00.45 | CIA-22 | - Removed SecureGroupHeader_Update hook entirely. Updated UAB for PitBull to handle the frame swapping that PitBull does, and only manipulate the controls that are affected by the swap. |
| 05:00.49 | Pkekyo | I still lack the last half of season 10 >.< |
| 05:00.56 | Mecdemort | NightHawkTheSane: seriously, but in their defense the writers didnt know they had to end it until 5 episodes before it did |
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| 05:01.06 | Pkekyo | a rude macgyver with huge guns...gotta love it! |
| 05:01.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Mecdemort: I know. But Unending just blew as a series finale |
| 05:01.25 | Pkekyo | why the fuck did they end sg-1? it's fuckall awesome |
| 05:01.33 | Mecdemort | the ending sucked so bad I really dont even remember what happened past them getting out of the time thing |
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| 05:01.43 | NightHawkTheSane | It went downhill post season 8 |
| 05:01.52 | Mecdemort | Pkekyo: because the people in charge of what we 'want' to watch are idiots? |
| 05:01.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Mecdemort: yeah, that's basically all that happened. >< |
| 05:02.09 | Trisorion | You know how, in Omen, you can drag out anyone's bar and compare your threat to thiers? Is there a command/macro or something I could do to change that bar to my target's target's threat |
| 05:02.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Honestly, I would have been happy had it ended after s8. Ben Browder was awesome, but the Ori plot was kinda forced. |
| 05:02.47 | break19 | well.. the clock just struck midnite.. and nearly broke it.. so I'd better go to bed. night all |
| 05:03.20 | Pkekyo | g'nite break19 |
| 05:03.20 | Mecdemort | midnight? sleep is for the weak |
| 05:03.36 | Pkekyo | btw break19, did you get the whisper about ag_UF/PitBull? |
| 05:03.50 | Pkekyo | tbh, I don't understand why the hell they brought in the Ori at all...would've been much better off to reroll pegasus galaxy or something :< |
| 05:04.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, atlantis more or less takes care of that. |
| 05:04.29 | Trisorion | ~cairenn |
| 05:04.30 | purl | i guess cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 05:04.37 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r44166 10Cartographer_Sidelist/ (Cartographer_Sidelist.lua Cartographer_Sidelist.toc): |
| 05:04.37 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 05:04.37 | CIA-22 | - a work in progress: this is pre-alpha, to be used at your own risk. |
| 05:04.37 | CIA-22 | - only lists notes--does not allow interacting with them or doing anything |
| 05:04.37 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.44 | Trisorion | ~[Ammo] |
| 05:04.44 | purl | well, [ammo] is the author of CandyBars, oRA2, BigWigs, WitchHunt, Necronomicon, and EgoCast |
| 05:04.50 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: true, but still...the Ori stuff was complete and utter crap |
| 05:05.07 | ckknight | so I'm thinking I'm going to throttle every single event in Parrot |
| 05:05.20 | Mecdemort | IMO starget starting going downhill the second they started doing things that couldnt be plausable IRL, like spaceships landing on earth or having our own space fighters |
| 05:05.20 | ckknight | DoTs/HoTs by 2 seconds or what have you |
| 05:05.27 | ckknight | but normal attacks/heals by 0.5 seconds |
| 05:05.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: well, not complete. It had it's moments and high points. Moreena Baccarin was amusing. :) But yeah, like i said, it was very forced. |
| 05:05.35 | ckknight | which means that multi-hits would be shown as a single |
| 05:05.38 | ckknight | which, imho, makes sense. |
| 05:05.41 | NightHawkTheSane | s/it's/its/ |
| 05:05.41 | Sole | indeed |
| 05:05.42 | Trisorion | so there would be a 2 second delay on hots/dots showing up? |
| 05:05.42 | ckknight | does anyone disagree? |
| 05:05.45 | Sole | well ck |
| 05:05.47 | ckknight | no, Trisorion |
| 05:05.57 | ckknight | Trisorion: it would only show every 2 seconds |
| 05:05.59 | ckknight | slightly different |
| 05:06.13 | Sole | what if people just want to see how hard someone crits them on a singular hit |
| 05:06.23 | ckknight | and on that 2-second mark, it would show all the data from the past 2 seconds in a nice, condensed form |
| 05:06.23 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: true, she brought alot of entertainment to it...but that's pretty much what 'saved' it at all |
| 05:06.40 | ckknight | instead of 10 dot messages, it can show 1 with the aggregate damage |
| 05:06.48 | Roartindon | ckknight: How would that work with AoE? |
| 05:06.50 | Pkekyo | I spent the whole of last fall at school watching stargate SG-1 seasons 1 through 9 :> |
| 05:06.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: well, as did Claudia Black. But I'm a sucker for lore, which was an interesting/cool part of the storyline. |
| 05:07.03 | ckknight | Roartindon: well, that's what the 0.5 second throttle is for. |
| 05:07.07 | Trisorion | 82921(8 hits, 4 crits) |
| 05:07.14 | Roartindon | ckknight: Mage casts arcane exposion, it hits ~5+ mobs.. will it just an aggregate for all hit? |
| 05:07.19 | ckknight | that is the idea. |
| 05:07.27 | ckknight | which, imho, seems like a damn good idea |
| 05:07.41 | Sole | Pkekyo: youre still in school and yet youve already fucked up your liver? :O |
| 05:07.47 | Sole | how much have you been drinking :P |
| 05:08.08 | Pkekyo | Sole: I'm 18 atm... |
| 05:08.09 | Pkekyo | not all that much... |
| 05:08.22 | Sole | so just a bad liver from birth? |
| 05:08.25 | Pkekyo | nah |
| 05:08.35 | Sole | but you said you had a bad liver |
| 05:08.38 | Sole | Im all out of ideas now |
| 05:08.39 | Pkekyo | some virus is fucking me up..liver, spleen, the works... |
| 05:08.47 | Sole | oh |
| 05:08.48 | Sole | goddamn |
| 05:08.50 | RogueShadow | a lot of things can mess with your liver if you don't take care of yourself. |
| 05:08.51 | NightHawkTheSane | that sucks |
| 05:09.04 | Pkekyo | a bottle of beer would probably kill me |
| 05:09.08 | RogueShadow | Doctor recommends drinking 1/2 your body weight in water, in ounce's everyday. |
| 05:09.13 | Mecdemort | is there a way to set up tortoiseSVN to omit externals by default? |
| 05:09.23 | Sole | err |
| 05:09.30 | Sole | so the doc wants me to drink 40L of water a day? |
| 05:09.33 | Trisorion | who made omen? |
| 05:09.40 | Sole | Antiarc did |
| 05:09.42 | Pkekyo | ~omen |
| 05:09.43 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, omen is a movie about the guy who programmed me, the devil that is. |
| 05:09.44 | RogueShadow | body weight in ounces |
| 05:09.50 | RogueShadow | 1/2 |
| 05:09.54 | RogueShadow | water |
| 05:09.56 | RogueShadow | ... |
| 05:09.59 | Antiarc | <-- omen author |
| 05:10.05 | Mudkips | O rly |
| 05:10.08 | Sole | Im in a normal country, whats the ounces :P |
| 05:10.19 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 05:10.20 | RogueShadow | oh sorry, i'm in the crazy country |
| 05:10.23 | Pkekyo | "I'm in a normal country"...priceless |
| 05:10.39 | Sole | :D |
| 05:10.40 | Trisorion | Antiarc would It be possible to at some point have a command that changes the person the single bar that compares 2 people |
| 05:10.55 | Antiarc | yeah, gonna add one at some point |
| 05:11.04 | Antiarc | If you want one that just follows the tank, drag out the aggro bar though |
| 05:11.04 | Mecdemort | you want something like 2-4 liters a day i think but that includes water from food too |
| 05:11.10 | RogueShadow | if you weighed 150 pounds, that'd be 75 ounces. which is about 2.2 liters |
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| 05:11.43 | Pkekyo | 150 punds = ? kg |
| 05:11.56 | RogueShadow | sorry sorry, more stupid country stuff. |
| 05:11.57 | RogueShadow | ... |
| 05:12.00 | Roartindon | Antiarc: since you're here.. any more thoughts on the GetThreatRevision stuff I mesasged about a while ago? :) |
| 05:12.02 | RogueShadow | can't you just do the conversions? |
| 05:12.11 | Antiarc | Roartindon: I just haven't implemented it yet. Need to do so. |
| 05:12.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: googleit |
| 05:12.22 | Sole | 150lb = 68kg |
| 05:12.22 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: cba :> |
| 05:12.27 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Okay great, drop me a PM on the wowace boards when you find time to do it :) |
| 05:12.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: it's like 10 chars. "150 lb in kg" |
| 05:12.41 | Pkekyo | soeh...I'veg otta go and drink 4l then? |
| 05:12.42 | Antiarc | heh, okay :) |
| 05:12.45 | Roartindon | (and if you could leave the existing one in there for a couple more days after you do implement it) |
| 05:12.55 | Antiarc | I'd plan on just putting in a separate method |
| 05:13.09 | RogueShadow | It's not so hard if you are able to keep water with you all day, and you go a little at a time all day. |
| 05:13.14 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Yeah, I guess that I was thinking you'd pull out the old one after some period of deprecation tho :) |
| 05:13.17 | Trisorion | Oh antaiarc i saw that bug where people retain thier aggro today on a rogue |
| 05:13.28 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 05:13.31 | Antiarc | Was he up to date? |
| 05:13.37 | Trisorion | ill ask him |
| 05:13.38 | Antiarc | I haven't had any reports of that one in the last week or so |
| 05:13.47 | RogueShadow | I did it for a while. It takes a while to get used to.. and not have to visit the boys room all the time, if you know what I mean. But surprisingly, after a while I was back to normal in that department. |
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| 05:14.02 | Trisorion | hmm we maade our guild get the mod just over a week ago |
| 05:14.05 | Pkekyo | problem is: water 'round here taste like shite ^^ |
| 05:14.07 | Trisorion | so he must not have updated it |
| 05:14.34 | RogueShadow | Pkekyo: Ya. same here. crappy city water. |
| 05:14.58 | RogueShadow | But it was worth it |
| 05:15.07 | RogueShadow | I lost a lot of weight, and it cleaned me up good. |
| 05:15.20 | RogueShadow | Water cleans out toxin's. and is incredibly good for your liver |
| 05:15.20 | Pkekyo | and the bottled water costs more for 0.5l than the price for 1.5l soda... which one is the logicall choise when at the store? :p |
| 05:15.24 | RogueShadow | as long as your water isn't contaminated |
| 05:15.30 | Pkekyo | tbh...fuck my liver ^^ |
| 05:15.57 | RogueShadow | Pkekyo: Did you know you can't live without your liver? I think it's a matter of hours. |
| 05:16.03 | RogueShadow | or less |
| 05:16.50 | Pkekyo | I'm not gonna drink water that tastes like crap just to again be able to drink beer which in turn again will fuck up me up all over again xD |
| 05:16.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Liver? I Hardly Know her! |
| 05:16.50 | Pkekyo | RogueShadow: true, but I'm not sure water would have too great an effect on a virus that is immune to antibiotics :> |
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| 05:17.29 | RogueShadow | Keeping yourself well hydrated also increases mental clarity ... Also, yes doing it just to be able to drink beer would be crappy idea. |
| 05:18.18 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 05:18.41 | Pkekyo | as long as this virus is gonna keep fucking me over the way it does, I don't give a shit :> |
| 05:18.56 | RogueShadow | There really isn't a single thing in your body drinking proper amounts of water wouldn't help... It's pretty. Obvious really. :) Just too bad water tastes like crap if you don't buy the good stuff. Unless your lucky and have a clean well. |
| 05:20.32 | Pkekyo | There really isn't a single natural thing in your body drinking proper amounts of water wouldn't help, I'd say... |
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| 05:22.08 | NightHawkTheSane | "Well"? |
| 05:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Who the hell has 'wells' anymore. |
| 05:22.28 | rubik | Antiarc: math_floor() error in Omen.. known issue? |
| 05:22.36 | RogueShadow | lol. People who don't live in urban area's |
| 05:22.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Or, furthermore, it's pretty trivial to filter water these days :P |
| 05:22.43 | Pkekyo | peeps who live out in fuckall nowhere |
| 05:22.47 | NightHawkTheSane | RogueShadow: those people don't matter :D |
| 05:22.48 | RogueShadow | Depends on the contaminants |
| 05:23.10 | RogueShadow | NightHawkTheSane: I live in a town without a burger king, You sayin I dont' matter? |
| 05:23.16 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 05:23.54 | Pkekyo | I'd rather say burger king doesn't matter |
| 05:23.59 | RogueShadow | True. |
| 05:24.11 | Pkekyo | shitty food |
| 05:24.18 | RogueShadow | But I thought it was a good example. :) as I dont' really know the population here. |
| 05:24.27 | NightHawkTheSane | RogueShadow: That doesn't say much. You -really- have to get far from urban areas to need a well |
| 05:24.28 | RogueShadow | small. is all I can say. |
| 05:25.09 | Pkekyo | RogueShadow: 24k+ ? |
| 05:26.34 | Mecdemort | ok after checking out an addon, when I try to update it with tortoiseSVN it automatically starts to include externals, is there a way to keep this from happening? |
| 05:26.54 | Gngsk | anyone here killed teron gorefiend? |
| 05:26.58 | RogueShadow | lol, supposivly wikipedia says the population within city limits was less than 500 in 2000 |
| 05:27.27 | Pkekyo | ah, so that's why we have a burger king here? :P |
| 05:28.08 | Pkekyo | Gngsk: the shadowmoon quests? |
| 05:28.18 | RogueShadow | less than 500, that's small k. |
| 05:28.45 | Pkekyo | jes |
| 05:28.46 | Pkekyo | k. |
| 05:29.28 | RogueShadow | Anyway, as for filtering, there are many contaminants you can only filter with a reverse osmosis system, thier not cheap for a lower income family. |
| 05:30.49 | Pkekyo | USD = ? euros nowadays? :p |
| 05:31.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: google it |
| 05:31.38 | ckknight | Ron Paul 2008 |
| 05:31.46 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: cba :> |
| 05:31.52 | Pkekyo | deja vu anyone? ^^ |
| 05:31.53 | ckknight | watching youtube videos now... |
| 05:32.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well if you were less of a lazy douche :D |
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| 05:32.18 | Pkekyo | holy shit... 7.30am :> |
| 05:32.26 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: well that's not the case now, is it? ;A> |
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| 05:37.23 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | k. |
| 05:38.08 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | huh...didn't remember that nicks were serverwide :> |
| 05:38.34 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 05:38.54 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | well...time for breakfeast! laters peoples |
| 05:39.00 | RogueShadow | Ron Paul, interesting fellow. |
| 05:39.18 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | sounds like he's either gay or fat :> |
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| 05:40.20 | ckknight | neither |
| 05:40.25 | ckknight | he's skinny and straight |
| 05:40.28 | ckknight | and a doctor |
| 05:41.25 | RogueShadow | I like some things, I don't understand others, some i'm against. But thats' a generic answer, and it's late. |
| 05:43.55 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44167 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: Alias: added checks for infinite loops in aliases; added colouring (woo!) cleaned up couple of bits |
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| 05:45.03 | RogueShadow | Well, it is true that the american founding father's were all about small government. That'd be nice. |
| 05:46.13 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44168 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: Alias: expanded alias text too difficult to read - changed colouring to a more acceptable level of luridity |
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| 05:47.07 | Wobwork | forum admin on? |
| 05:47.29 | Wobwork | ^ http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7450.0;topicseen |
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| 05:48.15 | Mecdemort | zomg free p0rn |
| 05:49.13 | ckknight | handled, Wobwork |
| 05:50.06 | Wobwork | ta |
| 05:50.35 | Trisorion | ~purl |
| 05:50.35 | purl | rumour has it, purl is purl |
| 05:50.37 | Wobwork | It looked like a direct altavista translation from chinese =P |
| 05:51.27 | Trisorion | purl trisorion is cool |
| 05:51.28 | purl | Trisorion: okay |
| 05:51.37 | Trisorion | lol |
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| 05:52.04 | Wobwork | ~trisorion |
| 05:52.04 | purl | rumour has it, trisorion is cool |
| 05:52.21 | Trisorion | ~wobwork |
| 05:52.28 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:52.31 | Wobwork | ~wobin |
| 05:52.37 | Wobwork | still nothing =P |
| 05:52.41 | Wobwork | ~emulate Wobin |
| 05:52.42 | purl | oh smurf me harder! |
| 05:52.45 | Wobwork | ^^ |
| 05:52.48 | Trisorion | O,o |
| 05:53.09 | Trisorion | \__/ |
| 05:53.11 | Wobwork | contextless quips are part and parcel of emulate |
| 05:53.17 | Wobwork | ~emulate ckknight |
| 05:53.18 | purl | <@ckknight> You know why? Because you touch yourself at night |
| 05:53.36 | Trisorion | how does something get added to the emulate list |
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| 05:53.47 | Wobwork | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 05:53.48 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "<reply><@ckknight> nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip || <reply><@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to || <reply><@ckknight> what do I get out of it? || <reply><@ckknight> f*ck the regular users? || <reply><@ckknight> f*ck you, guy || <reply><@ckknight> You know why? Because you touch ... |
| 05:55.02 | Trisorion | ~mikk |
| 05:55.03 | purl | from memory, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 05:55.13 | Trisorion | How did that diablo fire go mikk? |
| 05:55.41 | RogueShadow | ~RogueShadow |
| 05:55.42 | purl | from memory, rogueshadow is pretty cool guy |
| 05:56.13 | kebinusan | ~purl |
| 05:56.13 | purl | purl is probably purl |
| 05:56.23 | kebinusan | probably eh |
| 05:56.43 | Trisorion | purl kebinusan is a noob |
| 05:56.44 | purl | Trisorion: okay |
| 05:56.53 | RogueShadow | ~say purl is most certainly purl |
| 05:56.53 | purl | purl is most certainly purl |
| 05:57.26 | Trisorion | ~whaleslap rogueshadow |
| 05:57.27 | purl | ACTION beats rogueshadow upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 05:57.31 | Trisorion | lol |
| 05:57.37 | RogueShadow | ~topics |
| 05:57.38 | purl | I believe you meant 'topic'? |
| 05:57.42 | RogueShadow | ~topic |
| 05:57.51 | Mecdemort | lol what is that |
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| 06:06.09 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began |
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| 06:06.49 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:06.52 | Wobwork | he sings in my range |
| 06:08.03 | art3mis | tmbg was awesome |
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| 06:08.17 | Wobwork | they might be giants? |
| 06:08.21 | art3mis | yup |
| 06:08.28 | Wobwork | I am not your broom! |
| 06:08.40 | art3mis | got to see em at the bowery ballroom tonight |
| 06:08.42 | Wobwork | or, "They call me Dr Worm..." |
| 06:09.07 | ckknight | I'm not a real doctor but I am a real worm |
| 06:09.07 | art3mis | mostly new stuff |
| 06:09.13 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r44169 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Moroes.lua RomuloJulianne.lua): BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 06:09.24 | art3mis | heh and the faster instanbul ive ever heard |
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| 06:10.31 | art3mis | great show though |
| 06:10.50 | art3mis | i think they are one of the few smaller venue bands that has shitloads of audience energy |
| 06:13.43 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r44170 10Cartographer_Sidelist/Cartographer_Sidelist.lua: |
| 06:13.43 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 06:13.43 | CIA-22 | - ensure not-found, non-nil db names are preserved when returning from dbNameToCategory |
| 06:14.08 | Mudkips | erk |
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| 06:19.49 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | g'mornin peeps |
| 06:27.12 | Gngsk | is there a way to lock the threat comparison bars with omen? |
| 06:27.48 | Kemayo | Antiarc|Work: I set Omen to the Minimal skin, and now this error is showing up a lot: http://ace.pastey.net/71034 |
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| 06:42.27 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
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| 06:45.55 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 06:45.55 | CIA-22 | - Reduced threat data gathering for the moment. Still will show what it used to with default sets, but custom sets that used other fight data sets will show up empty. |
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| 06:46.37 | syeren | ckknight :P? |
| 06:47.07 | ckknight | d: |
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| 06:47.33 | syeren | My warrior friend was trying Parrot yesterday after I told him to use it, and he got his Merciless Glad Sword. |
| 06:47.47 | syeren | And he was whining how it didn't do some gay "SWORD SPEC!" event :p |
| 06:47.53 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44174 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (PartyLog/PartyLog.lua PartyLog/enUS.lua modules.xml): |
| 06:47.54 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 06:47.54 | CIA-22 | -PartyLog: Uncomment in modules.xml; still disabled by default. |
| 06:47.56 | syeren | Any chance you can add it or tell me how to add the trigger? |
| 06:47.56 | Sole | lol |
| 06:48.04 | ckknight | I have no idea what that would do |
| 06:48.13 | ckknight | sword spec? |
| 06:48.25 | Sole | ckknight: its just parsing the combat log and showing a message when sword spec (an extra auto attack) procs |
| 06:48.31 | Kemayo | Warrior sword specialization gives a chance to proc extra attacks from swords. |
| 06:48.32 | ckknight | is it in SCT or MSBT? |
| 06:48.35 | cryogen | yes |
| 06:48.43 | syeren | SCTD I think has it. |
| 06:48.55 | Sole | You gain 1 extra attack through Sword Specialization! |
| 06:49.03 | Sole | ^ pretty sure thats the line |
| 06:49.08 | syeren | Is the exact text Sole! |
| 06:49.09 | syeren | :P |
| 06:49.20 | Sole | syeren: I thinks so |
| 06:50.32 | ckknight | oh, if it's an extra attack, then it should be in by default. |
| 06:50.35 | ckknight | as a combat event |
| 06:52.13 | syeren | Oh, is it possible to do what I was suggesting from the screenshot I linked you? |
| 06:52.17 | syeren | Didn't look like it : |
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| 06:56.36 | Neebler | ckknight: thank you for making pitbull so configurable!!! |
| 06:56.47 | ckknight | you're welcome |
| 06:56.56 | ckknight | syeren: what screenie? |
| 07:00.18 | Neebler | hmm which unitframe is better A or B? http://neebler.tetro.net/AorB.jpg |
| 07:01.39 | Diao | i prefer b |
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| 07:07.19 | syeren | ckknight, the one regarding mana burn :p |
| 07:07.28 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 07:07.31 | syeren | And as far as I see, it isn't saying anything about extra attacks :p |
| 07:07.38 | syeren | I just sword spec'd and didn't get alerted :p |
| 07:07.59 | Diao | msbt doesn't have extra attacks either does it |
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| 07:08.23 | ramoz | Does WowAceUpdater have any commandline options? |
| 07:08.57 | syeren | No Diao. |
| 07:09.03 | syeren | I think only SCT/SCTD had it. |
| 07:09.09 | syeren | And I just crit someone for 3.2k with MS. |
| 07:09.12 | syeren | Goddamn I'm skilled! |
| 07:09.51 | Diao | lol |
| 07:09.54 | Diao | i did that earlier |
| 07:09.57 | Diao | i was amazed |
| 07:10.07 | Diao | gotta love clothies with 0 resilience |
| 07:10.51 | etip | hmm /raise hand :p |
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| 07:14.46 | Wobwork | damn you Neebler |
| 07:14.58 | Wobwork | I now have Never Gonna Give You Up stuck in my head |
| 07:15.18 | cncfanatics | good morning everyone |
| 07:15.31 | etip | evening :p |
| 07:15.48 | cncfanatics | morning ! |
| 07:16.04 | syeren | But ckknight, it definetly doesn't do any "EXTRA ATTACK" or anything when Sword Spec happens :P |
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| 07:16.25 | Diao | 504 |
| 07:16.26 | Diao | wtf |
| 07:16.31 | ckknight | reckoning seems to work for me |
| 07:16.36 | syeren | I'm a priest Diao :P |
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| 07:20.55 | Diao | lol |
| 07:20.58 | Diao | i love spellreflect |
| 07:21.04 | Diao | just reflected an arcane blast for 3.5k |
| 07:21.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 07:21.55 | cncfanatics | WTB |
| 07:22.10 | cncfanatics | giev palas spell reflect while holy shield is active tbh |
| 07:22.16 | Diao | no |
| 07:22.21 | Diao | lol |
| 07:22.23 | cncfanatics | oh, and a spell interrupt |
| 07:22.28 | cncfanatics | and a fear immunity |
| 07:22.51 | Diao | so basically make warrior obsolete :P |
| 07:22.59 | cncfanatics | no |
| 07:23.01 | cncfanatics | make palas equal to them |
| 07:23.09 | cncfanatics | warriors are too spoiled atm tanking wise :p |
| 07:23.30 | Diao | there'd be no point in having a warr if you could do everything a warrior could >.> |
| 07:24.57 | cncfanatics | oh, wouldnt there ? |
| 07:25.03 | cncfanatics | then why take any other dps class then a mage |
| 07:25.06 | cncfanatics | and any other healer then a priest ? |
| 07:26.23 | Diao | wait what |
| 07:26.28 | Diao | that's an unrelated argument |
| 07:26.28 | Diao | lol |
| 07:26.48 | cncfanatics | it is ? |
| 07:26.54 | cncfanatics | dont think so :p |
| 07:27.00 | cncfanatics | there are 3 tanking classes for a reason |
| 07:27.07 | cncfanatics | and there shouldnt be one superior to the 2 others |
| 07:27.30 | Diao | there is no other class that can do everything a mage or priest can |
| 07:27.40 | Diao | so that argument is not comparable :P |
| 07:28.30 | cncfanatics | mage, cc & dps |
| 07:28.33 | cncfanatics | rogue, cc & dps |
| 07:28.37 | cncfanatics | eh ? |
| 07:29.26 | Diao | rogue cc is nowhere near that of a mage |
| 07:29.50 | cncfanatics | then why do rogues raid at all ! |
| 07:30.36 | cncfanatics | I'll tell you, they do the same thing (mainly dps) but do it differently and equally well, thats how it should be for tanks too |
| 07:31.33 | Diao | except giving paladins all those abilities would negate the "differently" part as well as the "equally well" part |
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| 07:32.11 | cncfanatics | no it wouldn't, they dont have to work the same way the warrior ones do :p |
| 07:32.29 | cncfanatics | I just want some way to interrupt spells and break fear :p not necessarly the same as a warrior's :p |
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| 07:32.31 | Diao | spell reflect as long as holy shield is up = op |
| 07:32.34 | Diao | :P |
| 07:32.36 | cncfanatics | duh |
| 07:32.40 | cncfanatics | holy shield is always up |
| 07:32.43 | cncfanatics | that was a joke :p |
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| 07:33.06 | Diao | fear break is stupid anyway |
| 07:33.11 | cncfanatics | nightbane, eh ? |
| 07:33.11 | Diao | too many encounters rely on fears |
| 07:33.17 | cncfanatics | I'm horde, so its shit |
| 07:33.19 | Diao | makes alliance ezmode for raiding still |
| 07:33.23 | cncfanatics | yep agree |
| 07:33.32 | cncfanatics | and makes on hordeside only warriors can take fear bosses |
| 07:33.37 | cncfanatics | (nightbane, archimonde and the like) |
| 07:34.01 | xeekkcnook | Offtopic and stupid question: how the heck do I make a secure frame eh? |
| 07:34.09 | Diao | is archimonde a timed fear as well |
| 07:34.34 | cncfanatics | 45 secs to one minute timed fear yes |
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| 07:34.44 | cncfanatics | xeekcnook, make it inherit from a secure template |
| 07:34.52 | cncfanatics | with a cast time too |
| 07:34.59 | cncfanatics | so u can perfectly stancedance on it |
| 07:35.01 | xeekkcnook | I mean after that |
| 07:35.03 | Diao | wow 1 sec cast |
| 07:35.09 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 07:35.09 | Diao | that's pretty rough |
| 07:35.17 | Diao | timing a stancedance on 1sec with delay |
| 07:35.22 | Diao | nightbane is easy |
| 07:35.24 | Diao | 2.5s is nothing |
| 07:35.25 | Diao | lol |
| 07:35.27 | cncfanatics | not for a pala |
| 07:35.32 | cncfanatics | I can't get immune to the fear |
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| 07:35.41 | cncfanatics | well, I can |
| 07:35.45 | cncfanatics | but only once every 3 mins |
| 07:35.47 | cncfanatics | which sucks |
| 07:36.02 | cncfanatics | (and another every 5 mins kinda) |
| 07:36.12 | cncfanatics | with my 2 bubbles, as the fear is physical, but after that i'm screwed |
| 07:36.53 | Megalon | if blizzard lacks of ideas for bosses, they just add fear |
| 07:37.38 | cncfanatics | I wldnt mind some deep prot talent that works like warrior one |
| 07:37.38 | Megalon | which is kinda wayne for ally guilds :> |
| 07:38.01 | Megalon | fear ward for prot palas |
| 07:38.07 | cncfanatics | wld be nice |
| 07:38.07 | Megalon | that would do it |
| 07:38.08 | Megalon | :D |
| 07:38.18 | cncfanatics | in place of weapon expertise |
| 07:38.28 | Megalon | prot warrior, prot pala and feral dr00d |
| 07:38.34 | Megalon | and zomg |
| 07:38.35 | cncfanatics | feral droods need one tooo |
| 07:38.50 | Wobwork | ferals should be able to 'form dance' =) |
| 07:39.03 | Wobwork | in which they type /dance to avoid being feared |
| 07:39.07 | cncfanatics | lal |
| 07:39.17 | cncfanatics | giev a 5 sec duration fear ward deep in the prot tree |
| 07:39.22 | cncfanatics | one charge |
| 07:39.27 | cncfanatics | then i'm one happy tank |
| 07:39.40 | cncfanatics | same for the feral tree |
| 07:40.41 | mitch0 | is there an addon that adds stat change info to item tooltips? that is, if I mouseover an item in my inv, it'd calculate how my damage/mana/etc would change if I equipped that one instead of the one I'm wearing atm (an ouput like DrDamage, but not for total stats, just the diffs) |
| 07:40.47 | mitch0 | or can drdamage do that already? |
| 07:41.03 | cncfanatics | it doesnt |
| 07:41.13 | cncfanatics | get ratingbuster |
| 07:41.31 | cncfanatics | tankpoints does it for tank stats, dunno for spellcasters |
| 07:41.41 | cncfanatics | wouldn't be too hard to make urself tho |
| 07:41.48 | mitch0 | but that only displays ratings, not the real effect of them, right? |
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| 07:42.11 | mitch0 | well, always make someone else do the addon if possible :) |
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| 07:46.03 | ramoz | mitch0: ratingbuster + DrDamage is your friend |
| 07:46.54 | ramoz | doesnt add how much dmg it is to your tooltip on items tho, but when you mouseover skills (like theorycraft) |
| 07:51.22 | mitch0 | ramoz: yeah, I can note down current values from drdamage, swap gear and compare, but it would be nice if drdamage would do this for me automagically on item mouseover :) |
| 07:51.51 | mitch0 | especially if the item is still in the loot window and I'm trying to decide whether it's an upgrade or not |
| 07:53.11 | ramoz | well ratingbuster does that? :O |
| 07:53.24 | ramoz | if its alot of green you know its a upgrade :O |
| 07:53.59 | ramoz | (im a warlock) and it shows me how hp, mana, dmg, crit and hit the item has |
| 07:54.03 | mitch0 | ratings are whacky |
| 07:54.24 | cncfanatics | ramoz, ratingbuster doesnt do that |
| 07:54.26 | cncfanatics | tankpoints does |
| 07:54.27 | mitch0 | what I care about is the max dmg output and the avarage damage my spells hit for |
| 07:54.51 | ramoz | cncfanatics: does for me |
| 07:55.05 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | cncfanatics: ratingbuster does |
| 07:55.08 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | ramoz: true, but it'd still take some deciding and calculation on your part, wether or not to sacrifice one stat for another :> |
| 07:55.30 | ramoz | yeah, true |
| 07:55.43 | ramoz | but it gives me a quick overview of the item |
| 07:55.51 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | you'd have to know your class, but if you do, it should be easy to decide :> |
| 07:56.37 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | for me it've been a blessing lately :> |
| 07:56.46 | ramoz | well |
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| 07:57.05 | ramoz | if its endgame raid you'll prolly already looked at the loot before the boss is daun |
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| 07:57.41 | ramoz | i know i do atleast |
| 07:58.07 | cncfanatics | I also do heh |
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| 07:58.22 | cncfanatics | <3 ninja'ing "warrior" loot :;p |
| 07:58.32 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | >.< |
| 07:58.47 | cncfanatics | there are no warrs in the guild :p |
| 07:58.51 | cncfanatics | all ur plate belongs to me |
| 07:59.18 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | noes, it r mien!!!!!!111oneoneseveneleven |
| 07:59.22 | [Ammo] | must be a big guild |
| 07:59.59 | mitch0 | hm. where should I steal an equipment change check code? |
| 08:00.06 | mitch0 | I know I've seen it somewhere |
| 08:00.15 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], ahem, the guild just nearly disbanded |
| 08:00.24 | cncfanatics | we Barely got over it :p |
| 08:00.33 | snapcase_ | [Ammo]: why is the swstats spy-function in violation broken? :< |
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| 08:01.35 | [Ammo] | snapcase_: it's not |
| 08:01.39 | [Ammo] | you need to update your violation |
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| 08:02.17 | snapcase_ | but it's been broken? |
| 08:02.31 | snapcase_ | guess I'll try it for tomorrows raid again |
| 08:02.34 | [Ammo] | it was for 4 days or so |
| 08:02.40 | [Ammo] | update to latest fixes it |
| 08:02.46 | snapcase_ | I was like "install this dmg-meter everyone!" |
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| 08:02.48 | snapcase_ | and it just borked out |
| 08:02.48 | snapcase_ | :D |
| 08:02.54 | snapcase_ | they last faith in me |
| 08:03.17 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 08:03.27 | cncfanatics | if everyone had violation why wld u need the swstats sync anyway ? |
| 08:03.48 | snapcase_ | well, some ppl are just fond of memory-consumig addons |
| 08:03.49 | Bver | how is your dps calculated. Cus ill look at it and it says 2200 dps, weh in actuality i did like 1500 |
| 08:03.50 | snapcase_ | can't save those! |
| 08:03.58 | Bver | when* |
| 08:04.15 | Mecdemort | so I noticed http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace has a broken link to an Ace Development kit, is there anything like that for Ace2, specificly an addon template that all the addons I've looked at seem to use? |
| 08:04.20 | snapcase | swstats is really terrible unless you nuke the timeline every now and then |
| 08:04.43 | cncfanatics | hmmm is local var1, var2, var3; the same as local var1; local var2; local var3 or is it local var1;var2;var3 ? |
| 08:05.06 | [Ammo] | Bver: dps is calculated as follows |
| 08:05.10 | Mecdemort | cncfanatics: local var1; local var2; local var3 |
| 08:05.17 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, ty, and good :) |
| 08:05.19 | [Ammo] | there is a 1.5 second minimimum time for damage done |
| 08:05.22 | [Ammo] | and a 4 second cooldown |
| 08:05.41 | mitch0 | anyone knows of any items that modify some spell/ability range apart from the mage gladiator gloves? |
| 08:05.41 | [Ammo] | so if you do 1500 damage then your dps will be 1000 due to the 1.5 second minimum |
| 08:05.55 | [Ammo] | if you do more damage within 4 seconds of the last hit then the total seconds count (again with a minimum of 1.5) |
| 08:06.04 | [Ammo] | so if you do 500 more damage 2 seconds later you will ahve 2000 damage in 3 seconds |
| 08:06.13 | [Ammo] | then if you do nothing for 10 seconds |
| 08:06.17 | [Ammo] | and do 500 damage again |
| 08:06.23 | [Ammo] | you will have 2500 damage in 4.5 seconds |
| 08:06.37 | [Ammo] | so it measures dps only when you're actually dpsing |
| 08:06.52 | cncfanatics | handy for slackers tbh |
| 08:06.53 | [Ammo] | which makes it pretty damn accurate for my warlock with all DoTs etc |
| 08:06.53 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 08:06.59 | Bver | so instant dps? |
| 08:07.01 | Bver | sorta? |
| 08:07.02 | [Ammo] | but less accurate for bursters |
| 08:07.07 | evl_ | like me |
| 08:07.10 | evl_ | THE MOSTEST DPSER |
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| 08:07.15 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:07.17 | evl_ | morning ammo ;) |
| 08:07.20 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:07.28 | Bver | i just switched to aff |
| 08:07.35 | Bver | cant do as much dmg, thats for sure |
| 08:07.46 | Bver | but its better for raid utility |
| 08:07.47 | [Ammo] | did you even read my explanation? |
| 08:07.49 | evl_ | [Ammo]: can't come today, sun is up again and I have some animals that need to be put over open flame |
| 08:08.06 | cryogen | it's an odd thing to measure for sure |
| 08:08.09 | evl_ | Punkie`: WTB motherfucking Dragonspine this century |
| 08:08.12 | cryogen | sustains dps is far more important most of the time |
| 08:08.17 | cryogen | sustained* |
| 08:08.37 | cncfanatics | hmmm, someone |
| 08:08.48 | cncfanatics | if I have a function with locals in its scope |
| 08:08.54 | cncfanatics | and also locals in the scope its called from |
| 08:08.56 | Bver | yes i read it, it only measures when you actually do dmg, as opposed to taking dmg / fight time |
| 08:09.00 | cncfanatics | from inside the function you can access both right ? |
| 08:09.24 | Bver | i do more "sustained" dps as destro |
| 08:09.46 | mitch0 | [ammo]: how is the timeline-ish thing going for vio? |
| 08:10.02 | mitch0 | working on it or still in the pondering phase? |
| 08:10.56 | cncfanatics | someone answer meh |
| 08:11.29 | mitch0 | yes. unless the inner locals shadow the outer locals |
| 08:11.44 | mitch0 | or |
| 08:11.53 | mitch0 | I might be misunderstanding you |
| 08:12.17 | mitch0 | then the answer is no |
| 08:12.18 | mitch0 | :) |
| 08:12.34 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 08:12.35 | cncfanatics | supose |
| 08:12.41 | cncfanatics | I have a file called mitch0isuber.lua |
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| 08:12.44 | mitch0 | re-reading your question, I'd opt for "no" |
| 08:12.45 | cncfanatics | I have locals in that file |
| 08:12.54 | cncfanatics | a local mitch0 for example |
| 08:12.58 | cncfanatics | then I have a function declaration |
| 08:13.00 | mitch0 | that's different |
| 08:13.05 | mitch0 | that's not a "function local" |
| 08:13.11 | cncfanatics | now, I have another file called cncisuber.lua |
| 08:13.11 | mitch0 | that's sorta like a "static" in C |
| 08:13.22 | cncfanatics | with local cnc; in that file |
| 08:13.22 | mitch0 | and you can see those from within function in the same file |
| 08:13.27 | mitch0 | ah |
| 08:13.35 | cncfanatics | if I call the function thats in mitch0isuber. |
| 08:13.36 | mitch0 | can't see those from other files |
| 08:13.38 | cncfanatics | from cncisuber.lua |
| 08:13.47 | cncfanatics | what locals can the function see ? |
| 08:14.00 | cncfanatics | its kinda in both files |
| 08:14.19 | mitch0 | the ones that are visible at the moment of the function declaration |
| 08:14.24 | cncfanatics | okay |
| 08:14.31 | cncfanatics | ty, so I'll have to pass the other ones to the function |
| 08:14.55 | [Ammo] | mitch0: there will never be a very expanded timeline thing in violation |
| 08:14.58 | [Ammo] | more like stored data sets |
| 08:15.05 | [Ammo] | which take up around 12k each |
| 08:15.26 | [Ammo] | I might compress them and make em smaller |
| 08:15.27 | mitch0 | [ammo]: what I'd actually need is only an "overall since last reset" and "last battle" view |
| 08:15.35 | [Ammo] | I don't really care what you need |
| 08:15.38 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 08:15.40 | mitch0 | I know |
| 08:15.51 | mitch0 | just trying to make clear what I meant by timeline-ish thing |
| 08:16.28 | mitch0 | but it would be nice if your stored data sets could do this |
| 08:17.14 | mitch0 | but it doesn't sound like it would :( |
| 08:18.15 | mitch0 | vio can already do an auto-reset on combat start, right? |
| 08:18.23 | cryogen | i believe so |
| 08:19.04 | mitch0 | so basically what would be nice to have 2 independently configurable datasets, so I could conf one to not auto reset, and the other to auto-reset on combat start |
| 08:19.23 | mitch0 | [ammo]: ^ how hard would be to do that? |
| 08:19.40 | cryogen | that would actually be quite nice |
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| 08:21.13 | mitch0 | actually, I could do this by dupping vio as vio2 and running 2 instances of it, but that'd be kinda ugly :) |
| 08:21.59 | Arrowmaster | damn that sucks, playing around on ptr and found out that once your rep drops for scryer/aldor even if you already have purchased an item you cant reequip it if you ever take it off |
| 08:22.27 | mitch0 | read the item tooltip? :) |
| 08:23.00 | mitch0 | like, Requires: Scryers Exalted, or something to that effect would give you a hint, wouldn't it? |
| 08:23.16 | ramoz | Does the same go for shoulder enchants? |
| 08:23.24 | cryogen | i doubt it |
| 08:23.26 | syeren | [Ammo], you made WitchHunt right :)? |
| 08:23.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah i tested shoulder enchants too |
| 08:23.43 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44178 10Prat/extras/PratFu.lua: Prat: FuBar plugin: new icon |
| 08:23.43 | Arrowmaster | must have the rep to use them |
| 08:23.51 | ramoz | bah |
| 08:23.51 | [Ammo] | syeren: yes I did |
| 08:23.54 | cryogen | to use them but not once they're used |
| 08:23.55 | cryogen | right? |
| 08:23.56 | Azurewrath | you can still make the recipes though... but i guess i won't do the Scryer -> Aldor -> Scryer Journey just to get the healer pant-enchants and still use the Scryer Shoulder-Enchants... |
| 08:24.04 | [Ammo] | in fact I'm hacking it up a bit atm |
| 08:24.09 | Arrowmaster | once the enchant is on an item its fine |
| 08:24.10 | syeren | I know how added an MSBT feature, could you add a Parrot one please [Ammo] :)? |
| 08:24.15 | cryogen | ya |
| 08:24.16 | syeren | Or does it already have one :)? |
| 08:24.18 | cryogen | thats how it should be |
| 08:24.39 | mitch0 | [ammo]: would you accept a patch for vio for this 2 datasets thing (if you wouldn't like to code it yourself)? |
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| 08:25.11 | Arrowmaster | Azurewrath: thats why i went scryer first and got the dps pant-enchants when really i want the aldor shoulder enchants |
| 08:25.31 | Arrowmaster | ring is really just a bonus |
| 08:25.42 | Bver | im scryer here, the shoulder enchant is only like 6 more dmg right? |
| 08:25.47 | mitch0 | erm, the pants enchants can be applied regardless of rep, afaik |
| 08:25.54 | Bver | the aldor enchant i mean* |
| 08:25.57 | Arrowmaster | 18 dmg vs 12 dmg i think |
| 08:26.19 | Azurewrath | the Scryer Enchant has spellcrit :) |
| 08:26.43 | Bver | yeah i went that route cus i was destro for a long time |
| 08:26.44 | mitch0 | aldors are wuzzies anyway |
| 08:26.58 | Bver | been trying out affliction lately |
| 08:27.00 | Gngsk | I have an idea for a carto module, was wondering if it'd be possible. Put a line through the player arrow that'd plot from top to bottom. |
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| 08:28.15 | syeren | Or Rather [Ammo], could you add Parrot to the Display Mode Options :P |
| 08:28.18 | syeren | Sorry about the bad wording :p |
| 08:28.50 | Bver | prolly gonna respec back to destro, i do alot less dmg :( |
| 08:29.08 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 08:29.19 | Bver | yeah |
| 08:29.23 | Azurewrath | in PvE Affliction should do more damage.. |
| 08:29.23 | Arrowmaster | most locks say affliction puts out more damage for them |
| 08:29.53 | Bver | like on solarian, as 0/21/40 i can do 1600 dps easy |
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| 08:30.10 | Arrowmaster | fire or shadow? |
| 08:30.11 | Bver | but as aff i come no where close, maybe like 1200 dps max |
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| 08:30.15 | Bver | fire |
| 08:30.24 | mitch0 | #api GetInventoryItemLink |
| 08:30.41 | Azurewrath | but well.. locks are overpowered anyway.. i can spam myself oom in seconds with Arcane Blast on Trash Mobs, 1200-1300dps every time.. and one or two locks are still doing more.. with infinite mana and more hp... |
| 08:30.43 | Bver | idk im new to aff, maybe im not doing my dps rotation correctly |
| 08:30.50 | mitch0 | !api GetInventoryItemLink |
| 08:30.51 | [Ammo] | syeren: parrot can just register for WitchHunt_Message shrug |
| 08:30.51 | ThraeBot | mitch0: "itemLink" = GetInventoryItemLink("unit", slotId) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInventoryItemLink |
| 08:30.59 | [Ammo] | but I'll see |
| 08:31.05 | [Ammo] | I'm cleaning up stuff a bit first |
| 08:32.06 | Bver | the weird thing is, my aff gear is better dmg wise that my destro gear |
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| 08:34.59 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r44179 10/branches/RangeCheck-1.0/: RangeCheck-1.0: preparing for branching |
| 08:35.25 | cncfanatics | !api tremove |
| 08:35.26 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: table.remove(table [, pos]) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_tremove |
| 08:35.38 | cncfanatics | does pos only take numbers ? I supose so ? :p |
| 08:36.44 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07EquipmentModifiers * r44180 10RangeCheck-1.0/: start work on range modifiers by equipped items |
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| 08:37.33 | abbat_w | good day guys |
| 08:37.40 | cncfanatics | good night abbat_w |
| 08:37.52 | Gngsk | ammo, I have a question about crowbar. would it be easy to add modifiers to do things like destroy the item instead of open or open without autoloot? |
| 08:37.59 | mitch0 | !api GetInventorySlotInfo |
| 08:37.59 | ThraeBot | mitch0: slotId, textureName = GetInventorySlotInfo("slotName") -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInventorySlotInfo |
| 08:38.53 | kebinusan | I need to give parrot a try, I downloaded it but havent brought myself to disable msbt yet |
| 08:39.58 | cncfanatics | oh god |
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| 08:40.04 | cncfanatics | it has been SO long ago since I used patterns in lua |
| 08:40.25 | cncfanatics | how would I find if a string contained any of those, and what one ? |
| 08:41.10 | cncfanatics | just a plain string, or multiple plain strings seperated by ;, or a range of numbers [number]-[number] ? |
| 08:41.40 | cncfanatics | !api string.sub |
| 08:41.40 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_string.sub |
| 08:42.14 | cncfanatics | !api strsub |
| 08:42.15 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: string.sub(s, i [, j]) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strsub |
| 08:42.23 | cncfanatics | Fisker- help me ! |
| 08:42.24 | mitch0 | gsub |
| 08:42.26 | mitch0 | ? |
| 08:43.00 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHK0uFb6Vzw |
| 08:43.50 | cncfanatics | mitch0, example please ? :( |
| 08:44.12 | Arrowmaster | http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 08:44.16 | cncfanatics | multiple strings seperated by a ; how would I get that in a table ? |
| 08:44.41 | Arrowmaster | string.split? |
| 08:44.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44181 10Omen/OmenDisplay.lua: Omen: Fix for skin changes |
| 08:45.46 | syeren | [Ammo], could you teach me how to do it please :)? |
| 08:45.53 | syeren | Or would it take you a while :P? |
| 08:46.00 | Neebler | antiarc: I just reinstalled all of my addons yesterday including Omen. Now I cannot see myself on the omen threat list. Upon asking my guild if anyone else has had this problem, 2 others said they did |
| 08:46.04 | Neebler | is there a common fix for it? |
| 08:46.24 | Arrowmaster | Neebler: got up2date parser-3.0? |
| 08:46.38 | Neebler | I updated omen like an hour before I raided |
| 08:46.51 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44182 10WitchHunt/ (6 files in 2 dirs): WitchHunt: split off locales into separate file and minor tweaks |
| 08:47.24 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, ping |
| 08:47.26 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 08:47.27 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 08:47.45 | Neebler | oh the two other people who had the same problem as me, were rogues |
| 08:48.04 | Neebler | oh he just joined the channel :P |
| 08:48.18 | Neebler | antiarc: I just reinstalled all of my addons yesterday including Omen. Now I cannot see myself on the omen threat list. Upon asking my guild if anyone else has had this problem, 2 others said they did |
| 08:48.21 | Fisker- | cncfanatics FUKKEN PONG |
| 08:49.00 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, can you help me ? :) |
| 08:49.13 | Fisker- | with what_ |
| 08:49.15 | Fisker- | ? |
| 08:49.17 | cncfanatics | lua patterns |
| 08:49.23 | Fisker- | i have no idea |
| 08:49.24 | cncfanatics | havent used them in months :p |
| 08:49.48 | cncfanatics | someone feel like helping ? |
| 08:49.51 | Fisker- | but lisa needs braces |
| 08:50.24 | Fisker- | wtf Boubouille |
| 08:50.26 | Fisker- | you're slow |
| 08:53.05 | Sole | fuck me, I cant stand this assignment |
| 08:53.12 | cncfanatics | whats ur assignment ? |
| 08:53.19 | Sole | goal is to create a website |
| 08:53.22 | Sole | thats the easy bit |
| 08:53.24 | cncfanatics | lal, ez |
| 08:53.30 | Sole | its all ez |
| 08:53.37 | cncfanatics | then why can't u stand it ? :p |
| 08:53.43 | Sole | the ammount of bullshit documentation |
| 08:53.58 | cncfanatics | lal, u got to documentate the control pannel or anything ? |
| 08:54.07 | Sole | document everything.... |
| 08:54.09 | Sole | literally |
| 08:54.13 | cncfanatics | lal |
| 08:54.15 | cncfanatics | how funny |
| 08:54.24 | Sole | the conceptual design for EVERY image we have to draw it |
| 08:54.29 | cncfanatics | I barely ever documentate what I make ^^^ |
| 08:54.34 | Sole | every text we have to indicate font type, size and color |
| 08:54.36 | Sole | wtf |
| 08:54.39 | cncfanatics | Sole, who is the retard that asked u that? |
| 08:55.07 | Sole | cncfanatics: fucking NZQA (new zealand qualifications authority) + my teacher |
| 08:55.24 | Sole | I argued the fact that nobody in the industry would consider writing all that bullshit |
| 08:55.29 | Sole | as they could create 3 more websites in that time |
| 08:55.36 | Sole | with a simple drawn up plan including the client's requirements |
| 08:56.02 | Sole | we also had to create a plan of action |
| 08:56.07 | Sole | which includes all of our milestones |
| 08:56.42 | Sole | the dates we will work on them, what they will encompass, what resources we require (this includes Operating system and microsoft word - gotta list that) and any constraints we will face |
| 08:57.08 | Sole | its not hard, just insanely retarded |
| 08:57.12 | cncfanatics | lal |
| 08:57.22 | cncfanatics | u shldnt use microsoft software btw |
| 08:57.28 | cncfanatics | but thats a totaly other subject :p |
| 08:57.30 | cncfanatics | ~DRM |
| 08:57.31 | purl | hmm... drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No(TM), or better known as ... |
| 08:57.33 | Sole | tell me bout it |
| 08:57.43 | cncfanatics | purl just did |
| 08:57.53 | cncfanatics | wait i'll link u too |
| 08:58.20 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44183 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua locales/enUS.lua): WitchHunt: add drycoded parrot support, may eat your babies |
| 08:58.37 | cncfanatics | http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 08:58.44 | cncfanatics | that 'sums it up' |
| 08:58.47 | cncfanatics | its quite long tho |
| 08:58.49 | Sole | auckland? |
| 08:59.03 | Sole | I live there :O |
| 08:59.06 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 08:59.47 | cncfanatics | not mine btw ofc, I found that on the inet |
| 09:00.06 | cncfanatics | but its a damn good read if u got any technical background (ur on wowace chan and make websites, so you should :p) |
| 09:00.30 | Sole | I dont make websites :P |
| 09:00.33 | Sole | still in school |
| 09:00.41 | Sole | and dont plan to, its just what we gotta cover :( |
| 09:00.52 | cncfanatics | oh, ur age ? |
| 09:01.03 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44184 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: opt-dep on parrot for great justice |
| 09:01.04 | Sole | 17 |
| 09:01.07 | cncfanatics | same as me :o |
| 09:01.17 | Sole | hehe |
| 09:01.24 | cncfanatics | hmmm Sole, btw, u know lua ? |
| 09:01.31 | Sole | cncfanatics: yes |
| 09:01.39 | cncfanatics | could you help me with some patterns ? :p |
| 09:01.46 | cncfanatics | didnt use them since months & months and i'm lost |
| 09:01.52 | Sole | patterns make my brain asplode but ok |
| 09:01.54 | Sole | me neither |
| 09:02.09 | Mecdemort | how exactly does the whole $Revision: ### $ thing work in files? |
| 09:02.23 | Gngsk | voodoo |
| 09:02.26 | [Ammo] | set svn:keywords to Rev Date |
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| 09:02.31 | [Ammo] | or Rev only |
| 09:02.37 | [Ammo] | and then the rest goes magically |
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| 09:02.52 | Sole | Mecdemort: the SVN client automagically sets the ### to the latest revision (so the revision of your commit) |
| 09:03.03 | Mecdemort | what do you have to add to the files for it to generate it? |
| 09:03.05 | Sole | cncfanatics: show me the patterns, maybe I could help |
| 09:03.07 | Arrowmaster | set it to 'Revision Rev Date' or whatever ones you want to be replaces |
| 09:03.12 | cncfanatics | Sole, one sec |
| 09:03.14 | cncfanatics | phone calls |
| 09:03.42 | Sole | Mecdemort: with your svn client set SVN properties, svn:keywords to Rev |
| 09:03.54 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | raaaaaaaaah! cookies! |
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| 09:04.32 | cncfanatics | Sole |
| 09:04.34 | cncfanatics | ok, my problem |
| 09:04.40 | Sole | hokay hit me |
| 09:04.41 | cncfanatics | I have a string passed to a function |
| 09:04.50 | cncfanatics | the string is either of format: String;String;String;.... |
| 09:04.55 | cncfanatics | Number-Number |
| 09:04.55 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r44185 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:04.55 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:04.55 | CIA-22 | - Simp. Chinese Update |
| 09:05.00 | cncfanatics | or just String |
| 09:05.06 | cncfanatics | how to differentiate each case ? |
| 09:05.20 | Arrowmaster | string.split first? |
| 09:05.34 | Sole | so you wanna know if its either a string;string;string type of string or a number-number string? |
| 09:05.39 | cncfanatics | yes Sole |
| 09:05.49 | Sole | does it also end up being string-number;string;string-number;string ? |
| 09:05.56 | cncfanatics | no |
| 09:05.58 | Sole | k |
| 09:06.04 | cncfanatics | "string;string;string;..." |
| 09:06.08 | cncfanatics | "number-number" |
| 09:06.10 | cncfanatics | "string" |
| 09:06.11 | cncfanatics | "number" |
| 09:06.16 | cncfanatics | those are the four possible cases |
| 09:06.16 | Arrowmaster | string;number-number;string??? |
| 09:06.27 | cncfanatics | not possible, only strings if its point comma seperated |
| 09:06.38 | cncfanatics | or numbers, but those can be seen as strings too anyway |
| 09:06.49 | cncfanatics | wont ever combine the first 2 cases :) |
| 09:07.02 | Sole | d%+ and w%+ :P |
| 09:07.13 | cncfanatics | hmmm, can u put that into code ? |
| 09:07.19 | cncfanatics | preferably a pastey :p |
| 09:07.27 | cncfanatics | !api strsplit |
| 09:07.28 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strsplit |
| 09:08.21 | Sole | do you want to put the different values into seperate variables? |
| 09:08.45 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 09:08.54 | cncfanatics | and the first case , a numericaly indexed table |
| 09:09.35 | cncfanatics | brb |
| 09:10.36 | Sole | cncfanatics: is there a set amount of strings in the given string? |
| 09:10.48 | Sole | so are there always 3 string;string;string? |
| 09:12.30 | cncfanatics | Sole, Infinite |
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| 09:12.40 | cncfanatics | can be one, two, three, four, etc |
| 09:12.41 | Sole | hmm |
| 09:13.51 | Sole | the answer lies somewhere on pil :P |
| 09:14.16 | mitch0 | hm. is the spell id "stable" during play? or do they mix up when one learns/forgets a new spell? |
| 09:14.28 | cncfanatics | Sole :( |
| 09:15.35 | Arrowmaster | -- Add custom string functions to the string tablestr.trim = strtrimstr.split = strsplitstr.join = strjoin |
| 09:16.01 | Fisker- | Punkie` needs braces |
| 09:16.08 | mitch0 | cnc: http://www.lua.org/pil/27.2.html |
| 09:16.24 | Arrowmaster | looking at wow.exe in hex editor, string.split is from wow |
| 09:17.13 | mitch0 | cnc: eh, forget it, it's about adding the split() funtion in C or something :) |
| 09:17.36 | cncfanatics | ... |
| 09:17.42 | cncfanatics | does strsplit exist in lua? |
| 09:17.42 | Sole | split() looks like what you need :P |
| 09:17.53 | cncfanatics | yea but I first need to be able to recognize each case |
| 09:17.57 | Sole | yes it does |
| 09:18.08 | Sole | so you need ot know if its a string or number? |
| 09:18.11 | Sole | simple |
| 09:18.51 | Arrowmaster | string.find(x, ";")? |
| 09:18.52 | cncfanatics | nah, dont care about that |
| 09:18.55 | Sole | if yourString:find(";") then print("its a string") end |
| 09:19.00 | cncfanatics | also |
| 09:19.15 | cncfanatics | if one of the strings has a - in them, it shldnt be interpretted as a range |
| 09:19.27 | cncfanatics | whats the pattern for numbers again ? w ? |
| 09:19.28 | Fisker- | http://www.tyrsa.de/LOL.jpg ? |
| 09:19.29 | Fisker- | :o |
| 09:19.35 | Sole | digits: %d |
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| 09:19.42 | Sole | words: %w |
| 09:19.56 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, lal at that GM |
| 09:20.05 | cncfanatics | I'd say, macros ftl |
| 09:20.06 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 09:20.25 | cncfanatics | !api strfind |
| 09:20.26 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: string.find(s, pattern [, init [, plain]]) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strfind |
| 09:20.27 | Sole | lol |
| 09:20.34 | Sole | !api strsplit |
| 09:20.35 | ThraeBot | Sole: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strsplit |
| 09:20.39 | Sole | BULLSHIT |
| 09:20.49 | Arrowmaster | strsplit isnt on wowwiki |
| 09:20.49 | Sole | find it damn you |
| 09:21.03 | Arrowmaster | its gota be in patch notes or ui forum somewhere |
| 09:21.22 | Sole | I remember reading its documentation |
| 09:21.38 | dodgizzla | Maybe on lua.org? |
| 09:21.52 | Arrowmaster | no its from wow |
| 09:23.09 | cncfanatics | NEW ... = strsplit("delimiters", "string" [,"limit"]) -- Split a string on any of the delimiter characters |
| 09:23.13 | cncfanatics | its from patch 2.0 from wow |
| 09:23.19 | Sole | http://lua-users.org/wiki/SplitJoin |
| 09:23.30 | Sole | custom functions |
| 09:23.36 | Sole | they'll return a table for ya |
| 09:23.51 | Arrowmaster | thats gay, cant do yourString:split(";") on it |
| 09:24.28 | Arrowmaster | arg1 should have been "string" not "delimiters" dont know wtf they were smoking when they made that |
| 09:24.55 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 09:25.00 | Sole | (";"):split("string")? |
| 09:25.06 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:25.16 | Arrowmaster | talk about backwards |
| 09:25.17 | mitch0 | arse-backwards |
| 09:25.21 | Sole | kek |
| 09:25.25 | dodgizzla | Arrowmaster: The same crap they're always smoking |
| 09:25.37 | dodgizzla | "Uuuh let's give priests a new icon, they're totally fine!" |
| 09:25.53 | Health | Nice. |
| 09:25.59 | Health | I want new icons! |
| 09:26.14 | dodgizzla | Level a priest then :> |
| 09:26.15 | Sole | cncfanatics: the only problem is if WoW's strsplit returns a table |
| 09:26.23 | dodgizzla | Though that was about a year ago.. |
| 09:26.33 | Sole | cncfanatics: if it doesnt you could always cheese it go to http://lua-users.org/wiki/SplitJoin and use the function at the bottom |
| 09:26.34 | dodgizzla | Anyway, off to university |
| 09:27.06 | Azurewrath | dodgizzla: the best recent blue statement was "Mages have mana problems? Go socket spirit" |
| 09:27.13 | Sole | lol |
| 09:27.17 | Health | I have a priest with 160 days played :) |
| 09:27.22 | Health | I actually have 3 priests! |
| 09:27.26 | Health | 70, 60, 60 |
| 09:27.28 | Health | nice |
| 09:28.06 | Sole | o_o |
| 09:28.28 | Roartindon | ckknight: ping |
| 09:29.22 | kebinusan | hmm violation does not seem to save which windows I want to show between sessions or even sometimes after I hide it once, am I doing somethign wrong |
| 09:30.04 | Fisker- | nice |
| 09:30.08 | Fisker- | i got a GET on 4chan |
| 09:30.50 | cncfanatics | Sole, I WANT a table :p |
| 09:31.58 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: i've seen that there is a history module for prat. Thinking about ChatLog: you'd find handy that ChatLog saves this history and restore it at login? |
| 09:32.04 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r44186 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 09:32.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 09:32.04 | CIA-22 | - Loot update |
| 09:32.12 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r44187 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 09:32.12 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 09:32.12 | CIA-22 | - Loot update |
| 09:33.07 | Sole | cncfanatics: test if the WoW function returns a table, if not then use the one I gave you - it returns a numerically indexed table with the values being the string all split up |
| 09:33.23 | Sole | local t = strsplit(string, ";") |
| 09:33.34 | cncfanatics | Sole, if it doesn't I can just do Table = { strsplit()} anyway ? |
| 09:33.38 | kebinusan | Hmm, anyone use the grid module GridLayoutByInstanceSize |
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| 09:34.05 | cncfanatics | I'm pretty sure it doesnt, no function in wow with multiple output returns a table |
| 09:34.07 | kebinusan | err by instance |
| 09:34.15 | cncfanatics | actualy, no non-user made function returns a table I think |
| 09:34.31 | Sole | none that I know of |
| 09:35.57 | cncfanatics | so this one shldnt be different :) |
| 09:35.59 | cncfanatics | !api strfind |
| 09:36.01 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: string.find(s, pattern [, init [, plain]]) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strfind |
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| 09:43.44 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:43.44 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | :> |
| 09:45.05 | cncfanatics | api for |
| 09:45.12 | cncfanatics | !api for |
| 09:45.12 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: for [variable] = [lowvalue], [highvalue],[step] do [statements] end -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_for |
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| 09:55.42 | cncfanatics | pattern / code to control if a string only contains letters & digits ? |
| 09:55.47 | cncfanatics | someone :) |
| 09:56.42 | Sais | the regex would be [0-9A-Za-z] or [[:alphanum:]] (iirc) |
| 09:57.11 | cncfanatics | lua doesnt do regexes does it ? :p |
| 09:57.16 | cncfanatics | what would the lua code be ? |
| 09:57.20 | Sais | I can't remember what lua's idiosynchracies on regexes are |
| 09:57.30 | Sais | lua does regexes...sort of |
| 09:57.41 | cncfanatics | "patterns' |
| 09:57.44 | Sais | look at the string manipulation section of the manual |
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| 09:57.56 | cncfanatics | I've been doing that all day long for various reasons |
| 09:57.59 | Sais | They are essentially regexes. |
| 09:58.28 | Sais | Have you asked in #lua? ;) |
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| 09:58.48 | cncfanatics | not a bad idea |
| 09:59.07 | Sais | I dont't see anyone active, but that doesn't mean they aren't |
| 09:59.14 | |Pixel| | lua has patterns, which are really not regex at all |
| 09:59.42 | cncfanatics | just asked, lets see |
| 10:00.04 | |Pixel| | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#pm |
| 10:00.08 | cncfanatics | noone, indeed :p |
| 10:00.38 | |Pixel| | the engine isn't the usual regex library that is; this is 100% custom |
| 10:01.05 | cncfanatics | [set] --- represents the class which is the union of all characters in set. A range of characters may be specified by separating the end characters of the range with a `-´. All classes %x described above may also be used as components in set. All other characters in set represent themselves. For example, [%w_] (or [_%w]) represents all alphanumeric characters plus the underscore, [0-7] represents the octal digit |
| 10:01.07 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 10:01.12 | cncfanatics | but thats what I need dont I ? |
| 10:01.15 | cncfanatics | either a digit or a letter |
| 10:01.42 | cncfanatics | [%d%w] ? |
| 10:03.00 | [dRaCo] | go ahead and test it, looks good to me |
| 10:03.43 | Sole | %d+ %w+ |
| 10:03.45 | Sole | dont forget the + |
| 10:05.55 | [dRaCo] | what does the + stand for? |
| 10:06.40 | mitch0 | one or more occurences |
| 10:07.33 | mitch0 | wonder why they didn't include a sane regex lib into lua though |
| 10:08.24 | Sole | lua patterns annoy me |
| 10:08.49 | Fritti | maybe because the perl regexp library is too big? |
| 10:09.29 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07EquipmentModifiers * r44188 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: added support for gladiator gloves detection (sortof) |
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| 10:12.18 | Sais | cncfanatics: %w is "alphanumeric" (plus underscore)- i.e. %d isn't necessary |
| 10:12.39 | Sais | but you might want to be specific if you don't want the _ |
| 10:12.57 | cncfanatics | Sais, the problem is, if a part of the string is alphanumeric, it'll match with that |
| 10:13.03 | cncfanatics | or wait |
| 10:13.08 | cncfanatics | whats the start & stop again |
| 10:13.14 | Sais | \b ? |
| 10:13.16 | [dRaCo] | ^ $ |
| 10:13.35 | Sais | start and end of line/string? |
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| 10:13.39 | [dRaCo] | sais: sure? [%w_] is alpha and underscore |
| 10:13.48 | [dRaCo] | so %w prolly is just alpha |
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| 10:14.00 | Sais | Oh- right. |
| 10:14.12 | Sais | \w includes the underscore in pcre :| |
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| 10:14.26 | Sais | I misread the manual quote |
| 10:15.17 | [dRaCo] | ^[%w]+$ <-- 1 or more alpha chars, nothing else |
| 10:15.17 | [dRaCo] | at least I think so |
| 10:15.22 | [dRaCo] | might be terribly wrong |
| 10:15.23 | Sais | That would make sense. |
| 10:15.27 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07EquipmentModifiers * r44189 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: removed stray comment |
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| 10:15.48 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 10:15.57 | cncfanatics | this should do for my purpose, someone please verify :) |
| 10:16.14 | [dRaCo] | #luabot :þ |
| 10:16.28 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/71045 |
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| 10:17.38 | grom358 | anyone here use ItemValue |
| 10:17.46 | grom358 | I also install ItemValue_DrDamage |
| 10:17.54 | grom358 | but I can't seem to get it to work |
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| 10:20.04 | grom358 | it doesn't seem to save the spell rank |
| 10:20.59 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07EquipmentModifiers * r44190 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.toc: RangeCheck-1.0: toc version change |
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| 10:27.43 | grom358 | mmm. It seems I had to install Tiphooker |
| 10:28.05 | grom358 | now I don't understand the values it displays.. what with red / green colours? |
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| 10:36.45 | [dRaCo] | Antiarc, Antiarc|Work: ping |
| 10:38.06 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44191 10Assessment/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:38.06 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 10:38.06 | CIA-22 | - A number of minor changes. Hopefully reduced memory leakage somewhat |
| 10:38.18 | Undine | ah, AuldLangSyne errors back :) |
| 10:41.01 | grom358 | mmm.. wtf. ItemValue_DrDamage is saying an item is better but when I put it on the DrDamage tooltip says dps has decreased |
| 10:41.37 | omega | it might include stuff like HP/mana? |
| 10:42.00 | grom358 | oh.. what do the values mean then? |
| 10:42.13 | omega | dunno, I am guessing :) |
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| 11:00.30 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r44192 10ACP/localization-zhTW.lua: ACP: updated zhTW localization |
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| 11:04.41 | ag` | blopblop |
| 11:05.44 | pb_ee1 | Sorry for this but.... |
| 11:05.54 | pb_ee1 | ckknight I LOVE YOU (= thanks for Parrot) |
| 11:06.16 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, would you still love ckknight if he discontinued it ? |
| 11:06.32 | pb_ee1 | Yes |
| 11:06.50 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:06.54 | abbat_w | parrot done? |
| 11:07.05 | pb_ee1 | It would'nt change anything, he has made some much ;-) |
| 11:07.11 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r44193 10Aloft/Options/Modules/ (ManaBar.lua ManaText.lua): |
| 11:07.11 | CIA-22 | Aloft: |
| 11:07.11 | CIA-22 | - zhTW localization updated |
| 11:07.25 | pb_ee1 | "done" isn't correct, Parrot will never be "done", but it has a lot more than before |
| 11:07.42 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I hope he puts a conditional in it so u can't use it |
| 11:07.46 | cncfanatics | ^^ |
| 11:08.44 | pb_ee1 | What do you mean? :P |
| 11:09.14 | grom358 | any math people here? |
| 11:09.29 | cncfanatics | grom358, kinda |
| 11:09.47 | grom358 | trying to code a calculator that determines the best dps spec for mages with various gear levels |
| 11:10.03 | cncfanatics | u should do that in excel |
| 11:10.09 | cncfanatics | lots of factors to include though |
| 11:10.17 | cncfanatics | I did the same with paladins |
| 11:10.20 | cncfanatics | (for threat that is) |
| 11:10.54 | Codayus | grom358: Been done...although fun to do. |
| 11:11.52 | Codayus | I'd be happy to answer questions anyhow; I like spreadsheets. :-) |
| 11:12.21 | cncfanatics | same :) |
| 11:12.27 | Codayus | But if you just want to see someone elses stuff, check out the EJ theorycrafting forum, and this thread in particular: |
| 11:12.27 | cncfanatics | can help you, won't make one for you though |
| 11:12.30 | Codayus | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t10907-vontres_mage_dps_spreadsheet/ |
| 11:12.45 | cncfanatics | if you want a model for factoring in buffs & spells |
| 11:12.47 | cncfanatics | u could check out mine :p |
| 11:12.57 | cncfanatics | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t14063-paladin_tank_tps_spreadsheet/ |
| 11:13.03 | cncfanatics | the first tab factors in all possible gear & buffs |
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| 11:13.14 | Codayus | Also, the best raiding pve spec is 10/48/3 until you have 2 piece T5, then it gets debatable. |
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| 11:14.04 | grom358 | yeah I am 10/48/3 atm |
| 11:14.10 | grom358 | also I see this link http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4113/magetriplepointlr0.jpg |
| 11:14.19 | grom358 | but it only comparing fire spell rotation |
| 11:14.38 | Codayus | Your thinking about an arcane spec? |
| 11:14.41 | grom358 | I want to see Empowered AM spam and AM + AB roations |
| 11:14.47 | cncfanatics | what is the two pieces T5 btw ? |
| 11:14.59 | Codayus | I *think* the spreadsheet I linked covers arcane maybe? |
| 11:15.00 | cncfanatics | what does the bonus do that s |
| 11:15.01 | Codayus | 2 pieces: Increases the damage and mana cost of Arcane Blast by 20%. |
| 11:15.08 | cncfanatics | and mana cost ? |
| 11:15.09 | cncfanatics | eek |
| 11:15.15 | cncfanatics | oomage anyone ? |
| 11:15.36 | Esteth | pots + evocate + be nice to the druids :P |
| 11:15.50 | Codayus | I understand some raids run groups with a couple arcane mages and 2 spriests. |
| 11:15.56 | grom358 | I have spreadsheet that puts AM spam ahead of 10/48/3 with 800 damage and 20% crit |
| 11:16.14 | Codayus | grom358: Does it factor in mana? |
| 11:16.25 | grom358 | only prob is AM spam runs out of mana way sooner |
| 11:16.34 | grom358 | I'm talking pure DPS here |
| 11:16.39 | cncfanatics | as aeus would say |
| 11:16.40 | kovi | spreadsheats say a lot |
| 11:16.42 | cncfanatics | socket more spirit |
| 11:16.55 | cncfanatics | either way, its largely known that arcane dps > all, but its mana efficiency as awfull |
| 11:16.58 | kovi | the problem with arcane is, that you have to time everythign perfectly |
| 11:17.00 | Codayus | I'd believe it, but...your NEXT step is to think about mana usage and regen. |
| 11:17.06 | Codayus | That too. |
| 11:17.30 | grom358 | yeah. but I still want to know how to create phase diagram comparing fire to arcane |
| 11:17.33 | kovi | also your range is pretty ass |
| 11:17.48 | kovi | theres a pretty good thread about arcane spec on the EJ forums |
| 11:18.07 | cncfanatics | grom358, at different +dmg levels I supose ? |
| 11:18.07 | Codayus | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t13190-mage_how_can_arcane_damage_work/ |
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| 11:18.27 | Codayus | The big thing you'll run into pretty fast is that fight duration is a huge factor. |
| 11:18.30 | cncfanatics | if u got ur spreadsheet, get the dps values per jumps of lets say |
| 11:18.30 | Codayus | As is raid composition. |
| 11:18.43 | grom358 | yeah.. I'm staying 10/48/3.. I'm just curious |
| 11:18.49 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 11:18.49 | Codayus | 4 minute fight, 2 shadowpriests, and 3 innervates? |
| 11:18.55 | grom358 | cause curator is arcane immune |
| 11:18.59 | Codayus | 10 minute fight, no spriests, no innvervates? |
| 11:19.03 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 11:19.09 | cncfanatics | arcane immune fight ? (a) |
| 11:19.26 | cncfanatics | sucks curator is arca immune btw, cant mana tap him while tanking :( |
| 11:20.56 | Codayus | Frost damage really isn't bad either to be honest. |
| 11:21.35 | Codayus | (Assuming you (a) remember to use the elemental every cooldown and (b) remember to count it when your parseing the logs.) |
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| 11:22.11 | cncfanatics | still inferior to fire |
| 11:22.15 | cncfanatics | well |
| 11:22.23 | cncfanatics | thats assuming the fire mages know what aggro is |
| 11:22.28 | cncfanatics | and dont die every 15 sec like some of them |
| 11:22.38 | Codayus | Yes |
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| 11:23.25 | Codayus | Your DPS isn't as good, but you get decent efficiency, a couple of fun toys (ice block, etc.) and can farm better, so... <shrug> |
| 11:23.54 | kovi | unless you want to farm primal fire fire spec is fine for farming |
| 11:24.03 | kovi | pretty much everything dies before it gets to you, anyway |
| 11:24.05 | kovi | :S |
| 11:24.07 | Codayus | :-) |
| 11:25.03 | grom358 | yeah.. what with spellfire requiring primal fire when if u want spellfire u most likely fire :( |
| 11:25.42 | kovi | yeah, i remember fun times when i farmed my primal fire >:o |
| 11:25.53 | kovi | and i guess it's even worse now with the ogri'la stuff |
| 11:26.09 | grom358 | before I got into this raid guild I was 45/16 so I just AM spammed them |
| 11:26.27 | grom358 | i haven't really done much primal fire farmign since I went 10/48/3 |
| 11:26.52 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 11:26.59 | Codayus | Just farm air or mana and trade/sell... |
| 11:27.11 | Codayus | :-) |
| 11:29.38 | grom358 | its not so bad to use arcane blast as fire mage though afaict |
| 11:30.25 | cncfanatics | yea but ur gonna be drinking often |
| 11:30.35 | grom358 | water is free =) |
| 11:30.38 | grom358 | lol |
| 11:30.52 | JoshBorke | not time though |
| 11:31.42 | cncfanatics | 10k mana takes a while to drink up |
| 11:32.26 | Health | Too long :( |
| 11:32.30 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 11:32.39 | cncfanatics | try affli warlock grinding :p |
| 11:32.45 | cncfanatics | u can go endless & 4 mobs at once (fire elementals) |
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| 11:35.43 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r44194 10ArkInventory/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:35.43 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 11:35.43 | CIA-22 | - 2.07 |
| 11:36.42 | grom358 | yeah.. I got affli warlock.. it got boring it was so easy |
| 11:38.06 | pb_ee1 | Anyone knows an Ace'd addon that indicates when you have the aggro, and that is not called BanzaiAlert? :p |
| 11:39.10 | Hjalte | pb_ee1, Vitalwatch. |
| 11:39.36 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: why? |
| 11:41.38 | pb_ee1 | Cause I haven't one :p |
| 11:41.48 | vhaarr | and what's wrong with banzai? |
| 11:42.11 | pb_ee1 | Well I remember it saying "aggro", "aggro", "aggro", "aggro", ... :p |
| 11:42.18 | vhaarr | :P:P:P:P:P |
| 11:42.20 | vhaarr | :DD! |
| 11:42.23 | vhaarr | fucking smilies |
| 11:42.26 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: okay |
| 11:42.26 | evl_ | Banzai works perfectly :P |
| 11:42.37 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: perhaps if you could provide me with constructive criticism, I'd fix it |
| 11:42.39 | Health | ;pPppP |
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| 11:43.17 | pb_ee1 | well i'll test it again, maybe its behavior has changed since i uninstalled it |
| 11:45.08 | pb_ee1 | But I remember having nightmares about a woman that was constantly repeating "aggro" |
| 11:45.40 | vhaarr | turn off the sound option, then |
| 11:45.52 | Punkie` | it only says that when you get aggro, at least for me |
| 11:46.01 | Punkie` | doesnt spam it or anything |
| 11:46.25 | cncfanatics | well |
| 11:46.27 | cncfanatics | pb is an aggrobot |
| 11:46.29 | cncfanatics | so it spams it |
| 11:46.31 | pb_ee1 | aha? has this been changed? |
| 11:46.40 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 11:46.42 | Punkie` | i think the hamsterdance sound needs to be added to sharedmedia for aggro alerting :D |
| 11:46.46 | grom358 | anyone know of ace addon that lets you sent multiple items to one person with drag/drop GUI? |
| 11:46.53 | vhaarr | grom358: bulkmail2 |
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| 11:47.23 | FISKER_Q | omg lol |
| 11:47.40 | FISKER_Q | Punkie` :P |
| 11:47.44 | pb_ee1 | lol Punkie` |
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| 11:49.18 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: ho, btw, did you think about adding a visual effect instead of some text to alert when you get aggro? |
| 11:49.27 | pb_ee1 | such as the one used by DBM |
| 11:49.29 | grom358 | does bulmail2 have extra tab that has slots u drag items onto then type in person to send to? |
| 11:49.41 | grom358 | like CT_Mailmod |
| 11:50.05 | [dRaCo] | if you want ct_mailmod, why dont u just use ct_mailmod? |
| 11:50.32 | grom358 | cause I prefer ace addons |
| 11:50.41 | FISKER_Q | this is funny Punkie` |
| 11:50.58 | cryogen | just alt click all the items you want to send, or drag them to the "drag here" bit |
| 11:51.01 | FISKER_Q | The old guild (The one the people left from and started a new guild) is on void reaver, and they almost got him on their 4th try |
| 11:52.01 | Punkie` | nice, did you tell him they suck? |
| 11:52.11 | FISKER_Q | who_ |
| 11:52.12 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 11:52.18 | Punkie` | them even |
| 11:52.32 | FISKER_Q | still who? |
| 11:52.43 | Punkie` | your old guild? |
| 11:52.47 | cncfanatics | grom358> dont prefer ace addons "cuz u prefer ace addons" |
| 11:52.50 | cncfanatics | thats silly |
| 11:52.54 | FISKER_Q | they don't suck Punkie` |
| 11:53.04 | FISKER_Q | The "new" guild used 4 tries as well |
| 11:53.21 | Punkie` | im confused |
| 11:53.32 | FISKER_Q | I find it pretty lulzworthy that an almost destroyed guild can kill void reaver a few weeks after the "new omg raiding guild" :P |
| 11:53.44 | Punkie` | oh |
| 11:53.59 | Punkie` | did the guild break in 2 and the "hardcore" people thought they would be better? |
| 11:54.13 | Punkie` | but it turns out they are both the same ? |
| 11:54.37 | FISKER_Q | damn |
| 11:54.40 | grom358 | cncfanatics: maybe.. But I use to have addons using way too much memory. Ever since I changed to ace addons my memory usage has improved heaps |
| 11:54.47 | FISKER_Q | i think the guild changed webhosts |
| 11:54.57 | JoshBorke | grom358: why do you care about addon memory usage? |
| 11:55.03 | Punkie` | grom358: I think CT_MailMod is pretty well written |
| 11:55.12 | cncfanatics | grom358, ct mods are pretty damn well written |
| 11:55.36 | mitch0 | some of ct tainted my unitframes. that's one reason I abandoned ct. the other is easier updates with svn ;) |
| 11:55.52 | JoshBorke | if it aint broke, don't fix it |
| 11:55.59 | cncfanatics | agree Josh |
| 11:56.06 | cncfanatics | (except if it lacks features ^^) |
| 11:56.57 | ramoz | so, is there any real alternativ to CT_MailMod? Postal didnt have the mass mail feature (someone said i could alt+click items, didnt work for me) |
| 11:57.16 | JoshBorke | USE CT_MAILMOD! |
| 11:57.26 | JoshBorke | why do you want an alternative? |
| 11:57.37 | JoshBorke | the mod hasn't changed in 1 year except for maybe minor things |
| 11:57.53 | ramoz | i know |
| 11:57.53 | JoshBorke | minor bug fixes |
| 11:57.58 | JoshBorke | so why should you replace it? |
| 11:58.00 | cryogen | you on comission or something? |
| 11:58.01 | ramoz | but im spoiled with wowaceuptdet |
| 11:58.04 | cryogen | let him do what the hell he wants |
| 11:58.09 | ramoz | cba to check ctmod site every know and then |
| 11:58.13 | ramoz | now* |
| 11:58.16 | Punkie` | God dammit JoshBorke, everything must be Ace2 |
| 11:58.16 | JoshBorke | then don't? |
| 11:58.31 | JoshBorke | ramoz: why are you trying to update it? do you update all your programs every day? |
| 11:58.45 | ramoz | yes, lets use outdated addons that might throw away your mail |
| 11:58.49 | JoshBorke | ramoz: update if you know there's a new feature you wont (there won't be) or if there's a bug that needs to be fixed (probably won't be one) |
| 11:58.49 | ramoz | JoshBorke: mostly, yeah |
| 11:59.02 | JoshBorke | ramoz: i said programs, not mods |
| 11:59.03 | ramoz | if there's a update, ill update it |
| 11:59.07 | ramoz | i know |
| 11:59.15 | JoshBorke | and how many of them are updated daily? |
| 11:59.36 | ramoz | hm, none daily - but some weekly |
| 12:00.12 | ramoz | but thats not the point |
| 12:00.30 | JoshBorke | let me try this angle. what do you want out of a mail mod that you aren't getting out of CTMailMod? |
| 12:01.01 | ramoz | Punkie` is right |
| 12:01.06 | ramoz | makes life alot easier |
| 12:01.07 | ramoz | thats all i want |
| 12:02.09 | JoshBorke | life easier to do what? update? why do you want to update your mail mod? because there is a patch? the mods are all updated for patches on the website and usually at no other time. so you're saying that you're too lazy to go to a single website during a patch day but you're not too lazy to check for updates for all your OS programs daily? |
| 12:02.51 | yacoob | JoshBorke, because he just loves bleeding edge 8) |
| 12:02.59 | ramoz | uh, why do you even bother caring about what i want? |
| 12:03.02 | JoshBorke | WAU is the single worst thing for the ace community |
| 12:03.13 | ramoz | and ever heard of mailinglists? |
| 12:03.16 | JoshBorke | ramoz: because in my rather narrow minded opinion, it's absurd |
| 12:03.57 | ramoz | "rather" was a understatement imo |
| 12:04.41 | yacoob | but seriously, ramoz. The only reason one updates with WAU is that there are no official "releases" |
| 12:04.50 | yacoob | so it's better to update than not update |
| 12:04.54 | mitch0 | josh: why would WAU be bad? |
| 12:05.17 | vithos | ramoz: bulkmail2 and bulkmail2inbox are my favorites, but inbox has some outstanding issues (will lock up your ui if you try to takeall with gold in the mailbox) |
| 12:05.36 | vithos | ramoz: but there's also postal, postman, and i think another one. just search for "mail" in wau |
| 12:05.52 | ramoz | yacoob: true - but it would be very easy to get all my addons at one place |
| 12:06.04 | yacoob | mitch0, mostly because people use it blindly just for the sake of using |
| 12:06.11 | JoshBorke | mitch0: who said WAU would be bad? i think the idea of having an updater that updates from a beta release site is a bad idea, but that's just my opinion. I would like to see WAU and WUU merged or have WAU be able to update from other addon sites but it'll never happen |
| 12:06.22 | yacoob | which causes a lot of unecessary load |
| 12:06.22 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: banzaialert had that visual effect before dbm did, afaik |
| 12:06.26 | JoshBorke | mitch0: i think the idea of using a mod SOLELY because it can be found on WAU is a bad idea |
| 12:06.28 | FISKER_Q | madness! |
| 12:06.29 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: the very same effect |
| 12:06.35 | mitch0 | ah |
| 12:06.40 | pb_ee1 | vhaar: thanks for the info, i'm definitely going to try it again |
| 12:06.55 | pb_ee1 | I maybe had a very old version, or a fake one |
| 12:07.32 | pb_ee1 | dunno, but I have very bad memories of BanzaiAlert |
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| 12:08.59 | pb_ee1 | At least, I don't have anything against the lib/addon, or I wouldn't have restored the wiki pages conerning them :P |
| 12:10.15 | yacoob | well, Kaelten said he's up to changing the current state of things, we'll see how he'll live up to the word :) |
| 12:11.06 | grom358 | anyone know of addon that tells u when blackheart is gonna MC? |
| 12:11.10 | kenlyric | anyone remember the name of the self-buffing mod in the works? an obvious search for "buff" didn't yield any results. |
| 12:11.35 | vithos | if bandwidth is an issue, you could switch over to CoralCDN for zip downloads |
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| 12:11.47 | mitch0 | kenlyric: there was something like simpleselfbuff |
| 12:11.56 | kenlyric | ah, there it is |
| 12:12.03 | kenlyric | guess I'm just blind. |
| 12:12.35 | JoshBorke | poor kaelten has a thankless job |
| 12:12.36 | JoshBorke | i'll be back |
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| 12:13.15 | kenlyric | <hero> |
| 12:16.10 | FISKER_Q | madness! |
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| 12:17.27 | FISKER_Q | Punkie` |
| 12:17.30 | FISKER_Q | who should we rape btw_ |
| 12:17.31 | FISKER_Q | ? |
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| 12:23.11 | mitch0 | hm. I don't quite get this profile thing in AceDB |
| 12:23.49 | FISKER_Q | sylvanaar you there btw? |
| 12:24.08 | sylvanaar | si |
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| 12:24.35 | sylvanaar | what can i do you for |
| 12:25.04 | FISKER_Q | what does "Cleanup saved variables do"? :) |
| 12:25.26 | FISKER_Q | just delete everything or intelligently decide if the files are needed or not? |
| 12:27.58 | mitch0 | actually, I don't quite get AceDB at all |
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| 12:32.40 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 12:32.40 | CIA-22 | - More local variable caching to save a large number of global lookups |
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| 12:39.30 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:39.30 | CIA-22 | -French Update |
| 12:43.54 | mitch0 | what are BucketEvents? |
| 12:44.20 | grom358 | hey I'm just looking at that math for calculating damage of 10/48/3 they got 1.0427 (735 + 1.035 x) (1 + 1.1 (0.1691 + 0.000452489 y)) |
| 12:44.29 | grom358 | where the crap they get that formula? |
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| 12:45.51 | grom358 | I am using ((base_dmg + 1.035 * dmg_gear) * 1.25) * (1 - crit) + ((base_dmg + 1.035 * dmg_gear) * 1.25) * crit * crit_multipler |
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| 12:51.49 | charon | grom358: don't mean to offend, but have you run the maths? without knowing a thing about your spec (what class are you anyway?) it seems you have crit_multiplier=2.1, base crit of 16.91%, 0.00045... crit per point of 'y' (agi?), etc |
| 12:52.30 | charon | only thing that strikes me as weird is the 1.0427 vs 1.25 |
| 12:53.01 | grom358 | i'm a fire mage 10/48/3 |
| 12:53.06 | mitch0 | erm, what's that PitBull hack inside Niagara? |
| 12:54.04 | grom358 | oh hang on. my 1.25 should be 1.1 * 1.15 == 1.265 |
| 12:54.24 | grom358 | that is with scorch stacked to 5 |
| 12:55.44 | grom358 | charon: i don't get how they got that formula at all. can u explain the 0.00045? |
| 12:56.08 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | soeh...who here likes rock and/or roll? |
| 12:56.25 | mitch0 | grom: could be the crit percent gained per int point maybe? |
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| 12:58.32 | grom358 | but would u just include that into the crit rating like with that forumla of mine |
| 13:01.02 | charon | what values do you substitute for base_dmg, crit, and crit_multiplier? (iirc crit factor was 2.1 for fire?) |
| 13:01.32 | grom358 | crit_multiplier == 2.1 and crit is a variable of my function.. base_dmg is 735 i believe |
| 13:03.30 | grom358 | expanding my formula out I get 735 + 1.035x + 808.5y + 1.1385xy |
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| 13:08.04 | grom358 | base_dmg is 719 without the DOT |
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| 13:11.11 | charon | flaky network ftw |
| 13:12.42 | grom358 | oh.. well base_dmg without dot is 719 |
| 13:13.06 | charon | grom358: please paste (in msg) if i've missed something. first off, are you sure you can multiply the whole (base_dmg+1.035*dmg_bonus) with 1.15? tooltip on empowered fireball thinks it's just for +dmg |
| 13:14.03 | grom358 | the 1.15 is from imp scorch.. the 1.1 is from firepower |
| 13:14.22 | charon | i see |
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| 13:17.06 | charon | i've figured out the 0.00045 i think |
| 13:17.17 | charon | spell crit rating gives 1% crit per 22.1 rating |
| 13:17.33 | grom358 | oh.. they plotting on crit rating |
| 13:17.40 | charon | 1/100./22.1 = 0.00045 |
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| 13:18.37 | grom358 | kk. well I just expanded my formula out to 918.75 + 1.29375x + 1010.625y + 1.423125xy |
| 13:18.57 | grom358 | where x is +dmg and y is crit percentage (eg. 0.15) |
| 13:19.19 | charon | also note this |
| 13:19.21 | charon | >>> 0.83*1.1*1.15 |
| 13:19.22 | charon | 1.0499499999999999 |
| 13:19.34 | charon | 0.83 is your base %hit if the target is a mob 3 levels above you |
| 13:19.39 | charon | from http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Spell_hit_chance |
| 13:19.54 | charon | that's at least close to the 1.0427 |
| 13:21.33 | charon | (though it ignores your +3% from elemental spec) |
| 13:21.44 | charon | s/elemental spec/elemental precision |
| 13:21.56 | charon | ~lart purl |
| 13:21.56 | purl | executes killall -TERM charon |
| 13:22.01 | charon | ouch |
| 13:22.17 | grom358 | do u see anything wrong with the forumla I have? |
| 13:23.18 | charon | i guess i should signal(SIGTERM, SIG_IGN) before messing with that bot |
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| 13:23.38 | charon | well if you want to be completely accurate you should probably work out your %hit |
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| 13:25.21 | charon | and i do think we've finally explained all parts of that other formula you posted, no idea where you have it from though :) |
| 13:25.35 | grom358 | yeah.. could I just multiple it by z where z is hit% |
| 13:26.11 | grom358 | oh.. I got it from here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=93003149&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 13:27.13 | sylvanaar | Were you waiting for me to say something? |
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| 13:28.30 | grom358 | idk.. I just look at there forumla and think wtf |
| 13:29.01 | grom358 | did u work out what 0.1691 is? |
| 13:30.35 | grom358 | see.. I am trying to write a program to calculate all this. was reading that thread cause he created nice triple point diagram |
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| 13:35.38 | charon | grom358: 0.1691 looks like a sane %crit at average int including the 9% from fire talents, doesn't it |
| 13:37.23 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | how can I disable Track Minerals and such from showing as a buff in EBB2? |
| 13:37.34 | grom358 | oh.. see I tryign to write generic formula. In my code I got |
| 13:37.36 | grom358 | total = hit * ((base + dmg * coeff) * dmg_multi * (1 - crit) + (base + dmg * coeff) * dmg_multi * crit * crit_multi |
| 13:38.24 | grom358 | this way I can use it for any spell. I include crit from intellect into the crit variable |
| 13:38.33 | charon | hmm. according to wowwiki spells have separate rolls for hit and crit, so you want to multiply the crit part with hit too |
| 13:38.37 | Chompers | Pkekyo: add track minerals to the blacklist within ebbs |
| 13:39.09 | grom358 | charon: huh? wouldn't that mean u can multiple by hit% at the end? |
| 13:39.19 | grom358 | eg. it rolls to see if it hits |
| 13:39.31 | grom358 | if it does it rolls to determine if its normal or crit |
| 13:39.55 | charon | yes. i've just noticed that you seem to have forgotten the final ), but probably wanted to write it that way |
| 13:40.14 | grom358 | oh.. yeah.. missed a bracket |
| 13:41.13 | charon | other than that it looks accurate |
| 13:41.51 | grom358 | cool.. i think I will finish this tomorrow. Gonna make it a web page |
| 13:42.05 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | Chompers: thanks, appreciated! |
| 13:42.54 | grom358 | hey. is it possible to parse the talent calculator links to determine what talents they got? |
| 13:42.57 | charon | grom358: note that i'm no authority regarding mage mechanics. i jumped the original question because i'm a maths and theorycraft nerd and nobody else answered ;) |
| 13:45.46 | charon | grom358: try "reading" http://wowhead.com/talent/talent.js?7 if nobody can help with that. at first glance it seems to parse both blizz and wowhead links |
| 13:46.38 | grom358 | kk.. cause I am hoping to have it so u paste in your spec and it calculates the dps of various spell rotations |
| 13:46.49 | grom358 | this is gonna take me a while |
| 13:51.13 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | anyone here know the base mechanics of Cleave? |
| 13:52.24 | cryogen | "A sweeping attack that does your weapon damage plus 70 to the target and his nearest ally." |
| 13:52.49 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | so it's the nearest ally? |
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| 13:53.12 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | for me it seems to select the 2nd target with the lowest hp nearby, when fighting more than two mobs |
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| 13:53.20 | cncfanatics | crashes ftl |
| 13:53.25 | cryogen | well thats just what the tooltip says |
| 13:53.27 | cryogen | who knows what it really does |
| 13:53.39 | cncfanatics | who knows what what really does ? |
| 13:53.43 | cryogen | cleave |
| 13:54.47 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | probably just a coincidence...but I've noticed it happening alot lately |
| 13:54.59 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | didn't really use cleave all that much before |
| 13:55.17 | cryogen | could be semi related to the changes they made to make chain heal and prayer of mending target those with lowest hp |
| 13:55.31 | cryogen | it's a totally blizzard thing to do; making one change affect things it really shouldnt |
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| 13:56.10 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | now that you say it, it seems a logical scenario |
| 13:56.31 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | scenario/explanation/whatev |
| 13:57.01 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | it's not that I mind it...just found it odd :> |
| 13:57.06 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | rather helpful tbh |
| 13:57.37 | cryogen | it's like the patch notes you see where all of a sudden every class ability has some odd change to it |
| 13:57.55 | cryogen | like last patch, all the "xxx can no longer be used on 2 targets outdoors" |
| 13:58.26 | cryogen | just shows how linked some spells and abilities are |
| 13:58.35 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | aye |
| 13:59.00 | Tornhoof | they just stepped buff tracking up one notch cryogen |
| 13:59.06 | MoonWolf | not as much linked, they use a similar targeting mechanic |
| 13:59.17 | cryogen | the funniest ones are the (mostly unintended) links between player abilities and mob/boss abilities |
| 13:59.25 | Mech0z | I think they are rewriting a big part of the old code, and in the process they upgrade it to be abit more flexible |
| 13:59.43 | cryogen | Tornhoof: buff tracking? |
| 13:59.53 | Mech0z | cryogen like which? |
| 13:59.55 | Tornhoof | example earthshield for the shaman |
| 14:00.07 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | I rather like how cleave works now tbh :> |
| 14:00.13 | Tornhoof | previously you could chain buff it with instance switching |
| 14:00.26 | cryogen | Mech0z: im actually trying to remember, the only think i can think of is the lethon shadowreflect thing, but thats not really because of a link, just a dodgy bug :) |
| 14:00.33 | cryogen | s/think/thing/1 |
| 14:00.43 | Tornhoof | probably out of cpu load reasons they previously didn't track instance switching properly |
| 14:01.00 | cryogen | oh that |
| 14:01.07 | cryogen | that used to be exploited with aspect of the pack |
| 14:01.09 | cryogen | was kinda funny |
| 14:01.20 | cryogen | s/pack/cheeta/ |
| 14:01.28 | Tornhoof | yeh same with rampage |
| 14:01.31 | Tornhoof | afaik |
| 14:01.37 | Tornhoof | they just fix the ones which csan be exploited |
| 14:01.40 | cryogen | was funny to see people run around with like 2000% movement speed :p |
| 14:01.49 | Tornhoof | and ignore harmless stuff |
| 14:02.14 | cryogen | i cant believe they made paladin blessings and warlock soulstones fade on raid disband though |
| 14:02.22 | cryogen | that was a pretty big change to fix a relatively minor "exploit" |
| 14:02.46 | cryogen | like cutting off your arm to fix an itchy finger |
| 14:02.50 | Mech0z | well tbh it aint fair big guilds using ss on the whole raid |
| 14:02.53 | Matrix110 | 25ppl having 2 lives it "minor" ? |
| 14:02.55 | Tornhoof | from a computational point of view |
| 14:03.06 | Tornhoof | it was an easy way to fix it |
| 14:03.10 | cryogen | there are better ways to fix it though |
| 14:03.16 | Matrix110 | ok can agree there |
| 14:03.17 | Tornhoof | computational wise? |
| 14:03.19 | Tornhoof | unlikely |
| 14:03.20 | cryogen | they just took the easy, most annoying one |
| 14:03.29 | Tornhoof | they took the most effective one |
| 14:03.34 | Tornhoof | raid disband is once |
| 14:03.36 | cryogen | but the pala blessings one annoyed me more than soulstone |
| 14:03.41 | cryogen | i can see the urgency for soulstone |
| 14:03.43 | cryogen | not blessings.. |
| 14:03.52 | Mech0z | true |
| 14:04.09 | Mech0z | but still getting all blessings before you do a heroic is abit exploiting :P |
| 14:04.13 | Mech0z | if your not that good yet |
| 14:04.24 | Mech0z | and thats gonna be more effective in next patch |
| 14:04.25 | cryogen | but they didnt remove fort/ai/gotw |
| 14:04.31 | cryogen | so why blessings |
| 14:04.36 | Mech0z | then it seems strange :/ |
| 14:04.39 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 14:04.46 | cncfanatics | if I have a numericaly indexed table |
| 14:04.52 | cryogen | blessings arent *that* powerful |
| 14:04.52 | cncfanatics | how can I check if all values in that table are the same or not ? |
| 14:05.07 | Mech0z | bos is pretty important for fury warriors, shammys |
| 14:05.13 | Mech0z | and rogues for that matter :) |
| 14:05.22 | Mech0z | all class' without proper aggro reset :P |
| 14:05.33 | Tornhoof | the same? |
| 14:05.33 | Mech0z | but as I hunter I would rather have BoM and BoW |
| 14:05.38 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 14:05.41 | cncfanatics | if a pala joins a raid |
| 14:05.43 | Mech0z | but it all depends I find them quite good |
| 14:05.43 | cncfanatics | blesses |
| 14:05.45 | cncfanatics | then leaves the party |
| 14:05.48 | cncfanatics | he'll keep em ? |
| 14:05.52 | cncfanatics | or does that count as disband too |
| 14:05.54 | Tornhoof | compare memory pointer ;) |
| 14:06.00 | cryogen | they will fade from all those he blessed |
| 14:06.01 | cncfanatics | same question for warlock |
| 14:06.02 | Mech0z | cncfanatics dunno tbh |
| 14:06.04 | cryogen | he will keep his own |
| 14:06.11 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 14:06.24 | cncfanatics | if he stays outside but stays in raid ? (hey we got 40 spots for a reason) |
| 14:06.28 | cncfanatics | they wont fade ? |
| 14:06.42 | cryogen | its not something i ever needed really, but it was nice to buff greater blessings on random people just for fun |
| 14:06.50 | cryogen | cncfanatics: good question :) |
| 14:06.59 | cncfanatics | cryogen, if they keep them, their change was pointless |
| 14:07.04 | cncfanatics | u got 15 spots too much anyway |
| 14:07.04 | jme | i rolled an 8 on my t4 gloves last night :X |
| 14:07.09 | cncfanatics | and staying in a raid while grinding is a no issue |
| 14:07.28 | jme | mage rolled like a 10, lock rolled something like a 60 or 70 |
| 14:07.31 | jme | heh |
| 14:07.35 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 14:07.40 | cncfanatics | I got my gloves without rolling |
| 14:07.42 | cncfanatics | while being trial |
| 14:07.46 | cryogen | i just found it a pretty boggling sweeping change is all |
| 14:07.49 | jme | we aren't that hardcore :) |
| 14:07.52 | Tornhoof | cncfanatics, dunno if you can retrieve the memory pointer for each table entry, but that would be the easiest way ;) |
| 14:08.00 | cncfanatics | Tornhoof, how would I do that ? |
| 14:08.00 | deltron | heh I was trial and outrolled everyone when I got my t4 helm |
| 14:08.12 | jme | well |
| 14:08.13 | cncfanatics | but, to make it easy |
| 14:08.16 | jme | we do have a trial period i guess |
| 14:08.20 | cncfanatics | each value is a strting for sure |
| 14:08.27 | Tornhoof | i dunno how you can retrieve that ;) |
| 14:08.29 | cncfanatics | so just == will do I supose |
| 14:08.35 | cncfanatics | == compares by memory pointer |
| 14:08.38 | cncfanatics | so that should do |
| 14:08.41 | Tornhoof | just sum it up |
| 14:08.44 | Tornhoof | and divide by count |
| 14:08.53 | cncfanatics | its a string, not a number |
| 14:08.59 | jme | it's more fo a social guild than a hardcore endgame raiding guild, we raid kara 4 nights a week or so |
| 14:09.00 | cncfanatics | oh, the memory pointer |
| 14:09.03 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 14:09.10 | cncfanatics | the memory pointer is both numbers & string that I know of |
| 14:09.11 | jme | we actually have enough geared people to attempt gruul's soon |
| 14:09.12 | Tornhoof | that works for typed values too then |
| 14:09.19 | Tornhoof | ah ok |
| 14:09.23 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, uid is the one btw |
| 14:09.27 | cncfanatics | table.uid or whatever.uid |
| 14:09.31 | cncfanatics | (I think :p) |
| 14:09.37 | Tornhoof | yeh something like that |
| 14:09.39 | jme | fo = of (so purl doesn't repeaty my line) |
| 14:09.46 | jme | ~whalecrit himself |
| 14:09.47 | purl | ACTION crits himself with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. himself dies |
| 14:09.49 | cryogen | anyone have any experience running wow on a dell 1501 (or a ati Radeon Xpress 1150 HyperMemory)? |
| 14:10.03 | Tornhoof | since with sum it up & divide it would work for numeric values too |
| 14:10.12 | jme | cryogen: nope |
| 14:10.30 | jme | i play wow in osx on my 2.3ghz c2d macbook pro |
| 14:10.44 | cncfanatics | Tornhoof, ace gets the memory pointers somehow |
| 14:10.47 | cncfanatics | so there's a func somewhere |
| 14:12.37 | cryogen | im wondering if it can handle it or not |
| 14:12.43 | cryogen | im thinking it should be able to, but dunno |
| 14:13.24 | sylvanaar | FISKER_Q deletes *.lua *.bak from all WTF folders assuming no addon with the same name exists |
| 14:13.35 | cncfanatics | oh and Tornhoof |
| 14:13.41 | cncfanatics | ur method aint foolproof is it ? |
| 14:13.47 | FISKER_Q | nice sylvanaar |
| 14:13.54 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: where can i find an "api documentation" for prat? |
| 14:13.58 | cncfanatics | 2 & 6 adds up to the same as 4 & 4 (as rough example)Ã |
| 14:14.24 | charon | cncfanatics: just from looking at some lua functions, you could math.max(unpack(tbl)) == math.min(unpack(tbl)) |
| 14:14.27 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 it was destroyed |
| 14:14.29 | charon | traverses twice but it's a one-liner |
| 14:14.34 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: sh*t |
| 14:14.51 | FISKER_Q | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184854140038.gif btw |
| 14:14.58 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 but there are 35+ examples |
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| 14:15.18 | pb_ee1 | yup, but that's not so easy to understand than to read an api :p |
| 14:15.45 | cncfanatics | charon, would this do : |
| 14:15.48 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1, and i can answer your questions, once you have teh basic concept - its very easy |
| 14:15.52 | pb_ee1 | I've got a few recovery pages but they do not talk about the api, too bad. Anyway i'll have to do with it |
| 14:15.58 | Tornhoof | cncfanatics, yeh it's not foolproof but considering that the mem pointers are 32bit you can think about failure rates here, or just multiply it and use log ;) |
| 14:16.28 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: sure, i'm going to work on ChatLog 3.0. I have to find a few things: a new name (maybe?) and to design it again entirely |
| 14:16.46 | pb_ee1 | I have to save the chat in a different way |
| 14:17.28 | krka | function allequals(t)local v=t[1]for i=2,#t do if t[i]~=v then return end end return 1 end |
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| 14:17.36 | krka | much better, also a oneliner :P |
| 14:17.46 | cncfanatics | krka, now explain me that -.- |
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| 14:18.10 | Tornhoof | just iterate until it does not match |
| 14:18.12 | Tornhoof | the problem is just |
| 14:18.13 | charon | krka: under that definition, every program in most languages is a one-liner |
| 14:18.21 | cncfanatics | Tornhoof, thats what I do atm |
| 14:18.27 | cncfanatics | but there sure is a more efficient way :p |
| 14:18.35 | Tornhoof | that works for typed values |
| 14:18.54 | Tornhoof | well add some metatable function? |
| 14:19.01 | Tornhoof | which handles that internally on each update? |
| 14:19.10 | Tornhoof | depends on what you do more often |
| 14:19.15 | Tornhoof | update data or check that function |
| 14:19.32 | Tornhoof | for eac update |
| 14:19.34 | mitch0 | anyone here familiar with AceDB in general? I need some advice |
| 14:19.38 | Tornhoof | it's just comparing previous value with current value |
| 14:20.01 | Tornhoof | e.g. if t[length-1] != t[length] set notthesameflag |
| 14:20.02 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 well, writing a prat module is trivial. i wish more people had given it a go. its all event based |
| 14:20.17 | Tornhoof | i think this is possible with metatables ;) |
| 14:20.32 | Tornhoof | i guess cncfanatics brain just overloaded ;) |
| 14:20.42 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: yup but i have to find a way to correctly log the chats even if the user does not have prat installed |
| 14:20.50 | sylvanaar | AceDB is a metatable nightmare |
| 14:20.57 | jme | bah i dropped 356 LW and 375 skinning last night for mining and JC |
| 14:21.09 | jme | looong road back up |
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| 14:21.37 | cncfanatics | krka, basicly u loop through all ? |
| 14:21.43 | cncfanatics | no efficienter way ? :p |
| 14:21.43 | Tornhoof | until error |
| 14:21.46 | Tornhoof | there is |
| 14:21.50 | Tornhoof | you just pinged out |
| 14:21.50 | Tornhoof | ;) |
| 14:21.55 | krka | cncfanatics: describe your problem |
| 14:21.58 | deltron | jme: I dropped 375 mining for LW a couple weeks ago, just got 375 LW last night :P |
| 14:22.01 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 14:22.01 | Tornhoof | works with a metatable most probably |
| 14:22.02 | cncfanatics | problem |
| 14:22.05 | cncfanatics | I have a config window |
| 14:22.14 | jme | deltron: nice |
| 14:22.15 | cncfanatics | for configuring flexbar buttons |
| 14:22.22 | cncfanatics | the thing is, it can accept a button range to configure |
| 14:22.23 | jme | deltron: i was stuck at 356 LW for weeks, no motivation to grind it up |
| 14:22.26 | cncfanatics | obviously, for getting the current value |
| 14:22.32 | cncfanatics | if it aint the same for all buttons i'll get problems |
| 14:22.37 | jme | deltron: someone on my server has made about 26k gold from JC since TBC... |
| 14:22.40 | deltron | jme: it sucked! the last 25 were painful |
| 14:22.44 | cncfanatics | so I need to know when that'll happen |
| 14:22.54 | jme | deltron: i think that goes for any crafting profession though, doesn't it? |
| 14:23.09 | deltron | I think the big moneymaker for JC is prospecting |
| 14:23.11 | cncfanatics | I have all buttonnames together in a table |
| 14:23.18 | jme | prospecting? |
| 14:23.28 | cncfanatics | and the config per button name is stored in FlexBar2.db.profile.Buttons[Name] |
| 14:23.34 | deltron | prospect ore to get gems |
| 14:23.48 | cncfanatics | so I would need to know if Buttons[Name][Setting] is equal for a given setting and a table of names |
| 14:23.48 | jme | ah |
| 14:23.54 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 you are welcome to try to get my Chat-1.0 library going, which is embeddable prat - but, prat - without its modules, is essentionally just a library which only runs standalone |
| 14:24.26 | cncfanatics | krka, was it clear enough ? :p |
| 14:24.34 | krka | cncfanatics: right, you can just compare them all |
| 14:24.35 | jme | deltron: trying to decide if i want to do nothing but BG's and collect gear for the next few weeks or grind up mining/jc |
| 14:24.40 | jme | .. or grind up my shadow priest |
| 14:24.45 | cncfanatics | krka, no better way ? |
| 14:24.48 | jme | so much to do, so litle time |
| 14:24.49 | krka | define better |
| 14:24.56 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | lmao, for some reason, my Mining: Smelt Fel Iron tooltip has got two socketed gems stuck to it... +3 Resist All and +12 Spell Damage and Minor Run Speed Increase ^^ |
| 14:24.57 | cncfanatics | less cpu consuming |
| 14:25.03 | krka | how often will it be run? |
| 14:25.10 | jme | (not to mention that i still end up playing for 6-8 hours after i get off work) |
| 14:25.13 | cncfanatics | only during config |
| 14:25.15 | krka | once per frame? |
| 14:25.17 | cncfanatics | but when choosing a range of buttons |
| 14:25.20 | krka | 100 times per frame? |
| 14:25.25 | cncfanatics | let me count |
| 14:25.37 | deltron | jme: grind JC! |
| 14:25.50 | cncfanatics | about 5 times per frame per setting at the moment the frame is chosen for config, after that, not at all |
| 14:25.54 | deltron | Pkekyo|cookieplz: haha I've had that happen a few times with enchants, it's kinda strange |
| 14:26.05 | cncfanatics | 1 time per frame per setting* |
| 14:26.14 | krka | i see |
| 14:26.15 | Tornhoof | as long as you know the comparison table |
| 14:26.16 | cncfanatics | so if I configure 50 frames at once |
| 14:26.22 | Tornhoof | it can be done more efficiently |
| 14:26.24 | cncfanatics | that each have 15 different settings to config |
| 14:26.28 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | deltron: "kinda"? it's fuckall ridiculous :p you using cowtip btw? |
| 14:26.29 | cncfanatics | it adds up to a lot |
| 14:26.30 | krka | well, you could probably partition the buttons into settings tables |
| 14:26.33 | krka | i.e: |
| 14:26.33 | Tornhoof | just compare the values as you populate the table |
| 14:26.39 | krka | table[Setting][ButtonName] |
| 14:26.48 | krka | retrieve the setting from the first button |
| 14:26.51 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: gaaah what do you ask me to do actually? frenchy inside :/ |
| 14:26.56 | krka | then check if all other buttons exist in the same table |
| 14:27.07 | cncfanatics | krka, I'd need an extra table for that then |
| 14:27.11 | pb_ee1 | I couldn't find Chat-1.0 on files.wowace.com |
| 14:27.13 | krka | yeah |
| 14:27.15 | cncfanatics | as I also need to retrieve config per button when creating the button |
| 14:27.32 | krka | actually... here's another question |
| 14:27.40 | cncfanatics | table[setting][value] = { listofbuttons } would do I supose |
| 14:27.40 | krka | how does the set of buttons change? |
| 14:27.41 | jme | deltron: http://wow.crafterstome.com/special/jewelcrafting-shopping-list.html |
| 14:27.51 | krka | does it actually change every frame? |
| 14:28.04 | cncfanatics | only when the user changes the range of buttons in a textbox |
| 14:28.12 | jme | deltron: /cry |
| 14:28.14 | cncfanatics | so pretty much never actualy as its config only |
| 14:28.15 | krka | so, recalculate it on the change |
| 14:28.21 | krka | instead of on each frame |
| 14:28.34 | Josh_Borke | krka: that's crazy talk |
| 14:28.56 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: i've never coded any library or "embedabble" things (i don't even know what that really means), and i'm a bit afraid to directly start on something so "big" than prat. But it could be a challenge, too |
| 14:29.12 | cncfanatics | if doesnt happen often, might as well just compare the full thing when needed instead of using memory on big tables then can't I ? |
| 14:29.26 | cncfanatics | cpu cycles arent very precious when just configuring the addon anyway |
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| 14:30.51 | krka | cncfanatics: one big mistake is to optimize prematurely |
| 14:30.55 | krka | make it work first |
| 14:30.58 | krka | if it's too slow, fix it |
| 14:31.07 | krka | especially for pure config things |
| 14:31.17 | cncfanatics | true |
| 14:31.23 | krka | i tend to only optimize actual gametime code |
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| 14:31.33 | cncfanatics | well, config optimizing comes last ofc |
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| 14:31.35 | krka | when the framerate actually matters |
| 14:31.44 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 the Chat-1.0 was meant to take prat's inbount/out bound chat pipeline, and its pattern and itemref registries and separate them from the main code |
| 14:31.47 | cncfanatics | true, who cares if u got 5fps while configuring anyway |
| 14:32.28 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar, the project has been stopped? |
| 14:32.38 | cncfanatics | done with work going home |
| 14:32.39 | cncfanatics | bye all |
| 14:34.26 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 i have been busy, and people aren't that interested |
| 14:34.28 | sylvanaar | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Refactor |
| 14:34.29 | pb_ee1 | and btw, "embeddable" means "does not work alone, can be included to add some functionnalities" (= library)? |
| 14:35.06 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 whatever, feel free to use it however you like |
| 14:36.09 | FISKER_Q | well i'm an idiot |
| 14:36.44 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar, not that i do not want to do it but: when i see that the core of prat is 2k+ lines and that my addon only does 1.6k lines, i must admit that it would be an error to try to code chat-1.0 without having any knowledge on prat |
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| 14:36.58 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 i already have PratPlugin-1.0, which lets you add prat compatibility to an existing addon |
| 14:37.11 | pb_ee1 | yup, i've seen that |
| 14:38.25 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar, what would be the aim of chat-1.0? generate special events? |
| 14:38.41 | mitch0 | anyone knows if the darkmoon card: crusade "procs" with AOE or not? |
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| 14:39.10 | mitch0 | I mean, if it procs once or x times on an AOE (where x is the number of mobs hit) |
| 14:39.14 | sylvanaar | takes the Prat system of chat handling, and makes it available without prat |
| 14:39.44 | pb_ee1 | i see |
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| 14:41.26 | sylvanaar | i'd prefer people just used the prat core like a library - because its whole purpose is to provide a way for many addons to share one set of hooks |
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| 14:43.14 | FISKER_Q | if i chroot into another linux install passwd will change the password for the chrooted root right? |
| 14:43.24 | sylvanaar | it even has it's own debugging features |
| 14:44.35 | Fin | sylvanaar: I am fucked if I can figure out what the problem is with the Prat FuBar plugin |
| 14:44.49 | Fin | sylvanaar: I've stripped down PratFu.lua to basically nothing, and it still happens |
| 14:44.50 | sylvanaar | ask mikk |
| 14:44.50 | pb_ee1 | i'm looking at the code of chat-1.0 and i start to have problems after line 50 :P |
| 14:45.12 | Fin | it doesn't change sizes either, when you change the sizes of other FuBar plugins |
| 14:45.17 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 14:45.22 | sylvanaar | i have no clue |
| 14:45.29 | NightHawkTheSane | FISKER_Q: maybe `man chroot` and find out? seems obvious to me. :P |
| 14:45.35 | FISKER_Q | MAN?! |
| 14:45.40 | pb_ee1 | ~man chroot |
| 14:45.44 | FISKER_Q | you guys are bitches |
| 14:45.44 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 14:45.47 | Fin | I've been going over everything for the last two hours, it's pissing me off |
| 14:45.50 | FISKER_Q | can't even man in this state i think |
| 14:46.00 | sylvanaar | Fin well - read your framexml.log |
| 14:46.11 | Fin | k, will do |
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| 14:46.20 | Fin | I have to go to work now |
| 14:46.32 | Fin | sylvanaar: like the new icon, though? :) |
| 14:46.33 | NightHawkTheSane | FISKER_Q: google for the man page. :P |
| 14:47.01 | sylvanaar | Fin i havent seen it, i just sawy you added one though, ill have a look |
| 14:47.18 | Fin | sylvanaar: I want to make the bit that comes off the bubble a bit more obvious, I'll shrink the bubble some and keep that pointy bit the same size... still, hope you like it |
| 14:48.30 | NightHawkTheSane | love you too. |
| 14:48.58 | sylvanaar | Fin kewl |
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| 14:49.37 | FISKER_Q | oh i just did it because i had laced my lips with poison |
| 14:49.43 | sylvanaar | Fin we need to make it glow or have animated shine |
| 14:51.12 | FISKER_Q | now i just have to fix locales |
| 14:51.24 | FISKER_Q | every time i do it apt-get start QQ'ing |
| 14:52.58 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44199 10Relog/ (. Relog.toc): Relog: Initial Commit - WARNING NOT USABLE YET! An advanced searchable/filterable combat log, with additional information stored (health, mana/energy/rage, threat) |
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| 14:54.47 | Josh_Borke | watch out, here comes the new ckknight |
| 14:54.55 | FISKER_Q | new and improved? |
| 14:55.15 | Josh_Borke | how could you improve on perfection? |
| 14:55.44 | sb | ahhhh <3 Cryect |
| 14:56.37 | FISKER_Q | as if Josh_Borke |
| 14:56.41 | Cryect | Yeah, needed a new project when I feel like coding but don't feel like polishing Recount :-p plus I know people want a replacement for UniLog |
| 14:56.42 | FISKER_Q | ckknight isn't perfect! |
| 14:56.53 | sb | Cryect: so i can finally delete my 'addon' :p (played around with parser and gui stuff, but well.... :p) |
| 14:57.05 | Cryect | shrug it does absolutely nothing yet |
| 14:57.30 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: WORK ON RECOUNT! GIEF SYNC! |
| 14:57.39 | Cryect | Still in the writeup phase of what I want |
| 14:57.54 | Cryect | Hehe, I need to figure out how to tackle the sync issue I was thinking of |
| 14:57.59 | Josh_Borke | which is? |
| 14:58.03 | FISKER_Q | wtf |
| 14:58.04 | Cryect | well I figured out a method but not sure if I like it still |
| 14:58.06 | Josh_Borke | sometimes it helps to just speak your mind |
| 14:58.07 | sb | Cryect: well - mine is processing that events and put them in some source + destination + shortmessage format... |
| 14:58.21 | sb | and gui is a table that doesnt work ;p |
| 14:58.57 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r44200 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: add missing parenthesis. |
| 14:59.06 | Cryect | its basically a bunch of border cases where for some reason someone joins the raid with event numbers in the same range but wrong numbers |
| 14:59.14 | Cryect | then again nothing I think I can really handle about that |
| 14:59.48 | Cryect | and recount does have syncing for people who use it :-p so if you have all raid members use it then data should be perfect :p |
| 14:59.57 | mitch0 | hm. gotta get the crusade card |
| 15:00.09 | mitch0 | I've got this crazy idea that it procs on detect magic, too |
| 15:00.09 | sb | uuhm |
| 15:00.15 | sb | Cryect: optdeps swstats? |
| 15:00.22 | Cryect | yes |
| 15:00.32 | Cryect | for swstats fix log strings |
| 15:00.33 | sb | for importing data? |
| 15:00.36 | sb | ah okay |
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| 15:02.43 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: ignore imo |
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| 15:04.40 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44201 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Parrot support. |
| 15:05.26 | Cryect | Actually I think what I'm really leaning to is trying to send all events, where you keep a matrix of everyone using recount how close they are to all raid members. Then if you are closer/equal than everyone else to a player you will send events relating to that player |
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| 15:06.44 | Cryect | prolly in the equal case I should set it up only the user with the lowest alphabetic name can send though (would otherwise cause issues in like saying the room before heigan) |
| 15:07.12 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44202 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.lua: ErrorMonster: Parrot support. |
| 15:07.19 | Cryect | mitch0: How good is RangeCheck? |
| 15:07.30 | mitch0 | it's good |
| 15:07.32 | mitch0 | :) |
| 15:08.10 | mitch0 | the trunk version of RangeCheck-1.0 doesn't support gladiator gloves, but I drycoded that stuff in a branch already. will be in tonight, I guess |
| 15:08.26 | Cryect | heh well good enough |
| 15:08.40 | Cryect | just wanted to make sure its actually usable before working with it |
| 15:08.47 | sb | gladiator gloves? |
| 15:09.02 | mitch0 | shaman and mage ones add +5 yd to shock/fireblast range |
| 15:09.23 | mitch0 | so I had to watch for equipment changes, too |
| 15:09.26 | sb | oh... |
| 15:09.30 | mitch0 | cryect: what would you do with it? |
| 15:09.31 | sb | wtb :/ |
| 15:10.40 | Cryect | mitch0: my plan is to keep a table of max range to all players in your raid, then send this to everyone using recount to keep a matrix of max range for everyone then whoever has the smallest max range is permitted to send event messages relating to that player |
| 15:11.49 | mitch0 | ugh |
| 15:12.05 | mitch0 | sounds like a processor hog, tbh :) |
| 15:12.38 | mitch0 | is it for handling players without recount installed, or somesuch? |
| 15:12.51 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r44203 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: |
| 15:12.51 | CIA-22 | LZProfiler: |
| 15:12.51 | CIA-22 | - Making some variables "local" |
| 15:12.51 | CIA-22 | - The AddOn should now clean tooltips of enchants/gems/... before saving items. [DRYCODED] |
| 15:13.12 | Cryect | yes, it only has to do it like once every 10 seconds or so and I can slowly update players over that 10 seconds |
| 15:13.32 | mitch0 | might work in that case |
| 15:14.36 | Cryect | do you do any internal caching of range check curious? Probably not enough addons use it yet to bother though |
| 15:15.00 | mitch0 | no caching now |
| 15:15.06 | mitch0 | not much point, tbh |
| 15:15.56 | mitch0 | unless calls happen in the same moment, it would just add "lag". |
| 15:16.23 | Cryect | yeah |
| 15:17.02 | mitch0 | it used to have some caching when only RangeDisplay used it, but that went poopoo when I added [Range] support to DogTag |
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| 15:19.15 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44204 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: fix shaman res cooldown based on adelea's work. |
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| 15:26.57 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began |
| 15:27.02 | Cryect | BG weekend is like more than half the week :-p |
| 15:27.06 | jme | yeah, heh |
| 15:29.16 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r44205 10Tattle/ (18 files in 18 dirs): Tattle: dataminer ran |
| 15:29.48 | nekoh_ | vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/71050?lang=lua this should work (using this code as part of my dreambuff mini addon) |
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| 15:30.56 | Cryect | Oh nice I see the autodocument generation has been done |
| 15:31.55 | Antiarc|Work | :) |
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| 15:32.50 | sb | autodocument? where? |
| 15:33.10 | Cryect | http://wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format |
| 15:33.12 | Antiarc|Work | There's autodocumentation for files in the wowace svn |
| 15:35.58 | lolinternet | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/8359/ <--THAT is awesome. |
| 15:36.47 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 15:36.50 | pb_ee1 | impressive |
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| 15:37.20 | jme | wow |
| 15:37.22 | Cryect | So whats different from tattle/gladiator? |
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| 15:38.27 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 15:38.42 | Cryect | Heh I'm just curious I don't use tattle/gladiator |
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| 15:39.13 | mitch0 | curse is teh slowness |
| 15:39.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not sure about tattles DB size >.> |
| 15:40.26 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r44206 10Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0.lua: |
| 15:40.26 | CIA-22 | Layout-1.0: |
| 15:40.26 | CIA-22 | - added Size handling to the layouts |
| 15:40.26 | CIA-22 | - added AutoDoc documentation, more will follow! |
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| 15:43.33 | Kirkburn|afk | WoW comics are coming :D |
| 15:43.54 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1516 |
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| 15:49.06 | Saint-N | oh goodie |
| 15:49.06 | Saint-N | because the books so enthralled me |
| 15:49.08 | Saint-N | please please make it in comic book form with pictures! |
| 15:49.49 | Saint-N | **waits for the full line of Warcraft/milton bradley games.. Risk, Stratego, Uno, Boggle |
| 15:54.59 | Xuerian | Kirkburn|afk: lfgcomic.com |
| 15:55.12 | Xuerian | already here and damn good imo. |
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| 15:57.10 | sb | mh |
| 15:57.19 | sb | sag_ich_nicht: its not :p |
| 15:57.39 | deltron | I don't care much for that cover art on the wow comic |
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| 15:57.58 | sb | sag_ich_nicht: for non-mainly-pvp groups its very likely that you wont see any arena gear on that page |
| 15:58.24 | sb | it says for me 0 resilence 7k HP, but in arena gear its 270 resilience and 10k HP |
| 15:58.25 | sb | etc. |
| 15:58.48 | Xuerian | deltron: I'd have to agree. Looks too serious. |
| 15:59.49 | Xuerian | deltron: I mean honestly, read today's LFG. Doesn't that just scream "WARLOCK"! |
| 16:00.43 | vhaarr | nekoh: thank you, that worked fine |
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| 16:04.10 | Xuerian | Best page so far :3 http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/3 |
| 16:04.12 | sb | mh Cryect |
| 16:04.12 | sb | Recount-$Revision: 44110 $\GUI_Config.lua:800: attempt to call method 'SetLogRangeDefault' (a nil value) |
| 16:07.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Saint-N, I can't tell if you were being sarcastic :/ |
| 16:08.06 | Kirkburn|afk | We already have board games, btw |
| 16:08.40 | Kirkburn|afk | So essentially that Rick and Stratego accounted for. Uno = TCG? :P Boggle ... hmm |
| 16:08.48 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44207 10AtlasLoot/ (9 files in 6 dirs): |
| 16:08.48 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 16:08.48 | CIA-22 | - zhTW updated |
| 16:09.15 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44208 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.tw.lua: |
| 16:09.15 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 16:09.15 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 16:10.02 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44209 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.tw.lua: |
| 16:10.02 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 16:10.02 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 16:10.06 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44210 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.tw.lua: |
| 16:10.06 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 16:10.06 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
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| 16:10.55 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44211 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (4 files): |
| 16:10.55 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 16:10.55 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 16:10.57 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44212 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldRaidBosses.tw.lua: |
| 16:10.58 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 16:10.58 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
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| 16:16.22 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44213 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 16:16.22 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 16:16.22 | CIA-22 | - Added :RegisterModuleVar() |
| 16:16.22 | CIA-22 | - Added module variable for Nightbane's Smoldering Breath. Currently defaulted at 1.0, but testers may play with different values of it. |
| 16:16.47 | durcyn | oh god someone tell arith about modules |
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| 16:17.02 | durcyn | or whoever made atlasloot look stupid |
| 16:17.20 | Rhaene | there |
| 16:18.13 | Rhaene | Anyone here who can give me SVN access to WAU? I rewrote my mod ezIcons using ace2 libraries th e other day and was wanting to committ it to wau |
| 16:18.58 | nevcairiel | there is a thread on the forums where it explains to you what you need to do |
| 16:19.07 | [dRaCo] | there's no need to upload anything to "wau" |
| 16:19.16 | Rhaene | I already emailed them like it said to |
| 16:19.17 | [dRaCo] | when it's on the ace-svn, it's on wau, too |
| 16:19.29 | Rhaene | what do you mean? draco: obviously thats what i meant..... |
| 16:19.47 | trh | Rhaene: takes usually a few days for Kaelten to react ;) |
| 16:19.52 | Rhaene | ouch... |
| 16:19.54 | Rhaene | okay |
| 16:20.10 | Rhaene | thanks for the info |
| 16:20.14 | trh | Rhaene: or you bug him in irc.. may speed it up... or slow it.. depends on mood ;) |
| 16:20.32 | Rhaene | trh: well that was my plan when I came in here :) |
| 16:20.53 | Rhaene | but i see hes at work so Im SOL eh? |
| 16:21.27 | Kaelten|Work | :) |
| 16:21.28 | Kaelten|Work | hrm? |
| 16:21.47 | trh | Rhaene: he can irc from work ;) |
| 16:21.54 | Kaelten|Work | actually going threw my email atm |
| 16:22.05 | Kaelten|Work | I have a few backed up |
| 16:22.31 | Rhaene | ah, well mine would be the one labelled SVN Access appearing to come from Rick Warren |
| 16:22.37 | Rhaene | :) |
| 16:22.46 | Kaelten|Work | yep see it in there |
| 16:22.49 | Kaelten|Work | I'll get it out in a few mins |
| 16:22.50 | Kaelten|Work | :) |
| 16:23.05 | Rhaene | thanks |
| 16:23.38 | Rhaene | appreciate it, heh, got people hounding me wiht comments on worldofwar.net "why cant I find it on WAU?" heh |
| 16:23.38 | Rhaene | brb |
| 16:23.47 | [dRaCo] | Rhaene: sorry, heard a lot of stupid stuff 'bout wau today.... |
| 16:24.33 | Rhaene | draco: hehe its okay, I generally assume someone is semi-autistic at first meetings as well |
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| 16:34.00 | Xuerian | Rhaene: Though it's becoming a discouragingly common happening, primary-site users (wowi/curse/ui.wow) really shouldn't be using WAU to begin with. |
| 16:35.11 | trh | Xuerian: as long as they use the version with ads and "pay" for their usage.. who cares? :) |
| 16:36.02 | Xuerian | trh: The authors who are hassled to put their mods on the svn, and even verbally assaulted and berated in their addon thread because they don't |
| 16:36.06 | Kaelten|Work | Rhaene: what name do you want for the svn? |
| 16:36.11 | Kaelten|Work | you didn't include that :P |
| 16:37.14 | Kaelten|Work | Xuerian: ya, I wish that people wouldn't get harrassed to join the community :( and if I ever catch one of our authors doing it I'll be pissed. |
| 16:37.19 | Xuerian | trh: And more power to Kaelten if he comes out on top in server fees |
| 16:37.24 | trh | Xuerian: why, as an author, you should care? :) |
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| 16:37.51 | Xuerian | trh: Because I know that I do it for the appreciation. If only I used XLoot, nothing but it would exist, maybe Monitor. It's all a ego thing. |
| 16:38.20 | trh | Xuerian: that's a bad reason to write mods.. i write mods because i need them and couldn't find something similar :) |
| 16:38.21 | Kaelten|Work | Rhaene: I'm goint to assume you want rhaene as your username if you don't speak up soon :P |
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| 16:38.38 | Xuerian | trh: That's a fair enough opinion, but it doesn't change the fact |
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| 16:38.44 | Xuerian | trh: You'll find I'm not the only one |
| 16:38.52 | Kaelten|Work | trh: there are multiple reasons to write them, I don't think that any are 'bad' reasons |
| 16:38.56 | Xuerian | trh: ckk writes for close to the same reason, he's said it himself |
| 16:39.11 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44214 10Recount/ (. GUI_Config.lua Recount.toc Sync.lua embeds.xml): |
| 16:39.11 | CIA-22 | Recount - Deactivates some test code for colors on the config screen |
| 16:39.11 | CIA-22 | -Adds the start of additional sync code (new library added RangeCheck-1.0) |
| 16:39.16 | trh | Xuerian: in that case you have to live with complaining users |
| 16:39.22 | Kaelten|Work | I started writing mods while I was going through a divorce |
| 16:39.25 | Xuerian | trh: I don't have to do anything |
| 16:39.27 | trh | Xuerian: by definition there are no users that don't complain :P |
| 16:39.36 | Kaelten|Work | it was a positive outlet for me and helped validate me as a person. |
| 16:39.44 | Xuerian | trh: There are in practice users who don't complain |
| 16:39.52 | trh | Xuerian: or request a deactive comments function on curse/others :) |
| 16:39.53 | Cryect | Kaelten|Work: its normally not authors harassing people to join Ace its users who have no idea what Ace means often |
| 16:39.57 | trh | deactivate |
| 16:40.16 | Xuerian | trh: Kaelten has a point; I started writing xloot when I was in the beginning of a bad breakup, worked on it all the way through it |
| 16:40.27 | Xuerian | trh: And Cryect has the biggest point |
| 16:40.52 | Kaelten|Work | the addon community helped me through a time where I was loosing my mind. |
| 16:40.55 | Xuerian | We may jokingly say "Ace it!", but users mean it, for some god-forsaken reason |
| 16:41.02 | trh | sure.. appreciation from users is nice |
| 16:41.05 | Kaelten|Work | Turan and Cairenn specifically but the community as an overall. |
| 16:41.36 | trh | but if you get annoyed by them, just add a big first text node in the addons page saying that you don't listen to "make it ace" requests |
| 16:41.50 | Xuerian | Another good point. I've been in this community for company; a group of peers to talk to and express frustration to (Though not directly), and cooperate on things on, getting my mind off things |
| 16:42.02 | NeoTron | just wonderful. A shadow priest in the guild that has so far collected (for various members) 6 vortexes (incl one last night) now says she's going to stop raiding |
| 16:42.06 | NeoTron | that's so much for that. |
| 16:42.20 | Kaelten|Work | vortexes? |
| 16:42.21 | trh | Kaelten|Work: sure, it's a hobby.. like every other hobby :) |
| 16:42.51 | Cryect | vortexes are a crafting item Kaelten|Work |
| 16:42.56 | Cryect | comes from SSC & TK |
| 16:42.57 | trh | primal vortex |
| 16:42.58 | Kaelten|Work | ah |
| 16:43.06 | durcyn | vortices |
| 16:43.12 | trh | like primal nether, only epic and in SSC/TK |
| 16:43.21 | trh | don't know if they dropt oo in BT |
| 16:43.36 | durcyn | no, bt drops heart of darkness |
| 16:43.41 | trh | ah =) |
| 16:43.46 | trh | never seen it =) |
| 16:43.57 | NeoTron | BoP, and rather rare these days |
| 16:44.05 | Xuerian | Ah well. Have fun all. |
| 16:44.07 | NeoTron | only TK/SSC |
| 16:44.17 | binder | we had a warlock pick up 4 nether vortex and then missed a raid and the belt of blasting recipe dropped and another mage picked it up |
| 16:44.24 | NeoTron | in this was it would be used to make belt of blasting |
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| 16:44.38 | NeoTron | of coruse the pattern is BoP |
| 16:45.41 | NeoTron | that blows too |
| 16:45.49 | NeoTron | but at least that wasn't the individuals faul |
| 16:46.11 | NeoTron | to make it worse, this person isn't really that great.. but has gotten in several times solely for the chance of the pattern dropping |
| 16:46.31 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 16:46.37 | FISKER_Q | Antiarc you there? |
| 16:46.51 | NeoTron | in the end though, it's our fault for not handling those patterns/vortexes correctly. they should have gone to the 100%, most relable raiders to begin with |
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| 16:53.52 | FISKER_Q | oh bai |
| 16:53.57 | FISKER_Q | i just upgraded my ram |
| 16:55.39 | NightHawkAtWork | blarg. |
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| 16:56.49 | NightHawkAtWork | Anyone here know a site with a particularly good ruby/rails tutorial? |
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| 16:58.45 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Hey, at least you got the pattern. Not a single drop for us and we've stopped doing SSC and TK |
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| 17:03.56 | Coruss | at least you've seen them first hand |
| 17:04.06 | Coruss | I've barely even seen kara |
| 17:06.02 | trh | candybar is really nice :) |
| 17:06.05 | deltron | heh I almost had a 2nd LW pattern from SSC/TK |
| 17:06.26 | *** part/#wowace buchkurish (n=alien@65.100.61.206) |
| 17:06.42 | trh | created a "afk timeout in x mins" addon in like 10minutes :) |
| 17:08.36 | Coruss | cool |
| 17:08.55 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44215 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: Threat-1.0: Reverted the Supremus module to use %s rather than the literal mob name. Emotes never use the literal mob name. |
| 17:09.18 | Coruss | are there any ace/ace2 addons for managing paladin buffs? |
| 17:09.39 | trh | for selfbuff you could try simpleselfrebuff |
| 17:09.56 | Coruss | I'm thinking for raid/party buffing |
| 17:10.15 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44216 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: Threat-1.0: Replaced literal mob name in deDE translation with %s; nilled koKR translation pending a proper fix. |
| 17:11.07 | Kemayo | Undine: Could you let me know what errors you're getting with ALS? |
| 17:11.23 | Undine | Kemayo, yes :) |
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| 17:11.52 | Undine | it is from the _Sync module. "bad argument #1 to 'pairs'" Sync.lua:104 |
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| 17:12.13 | Undine | followed by several "attempt to index field ?" Sync.lua: 124 |
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| 17:12.49 | Undine | interestingly i don't think it happens on all my chars. only happens on login. |
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| 17:13.07 | deltron | strange heh |
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| 17:15.18 | Undine | anyone want a pitbull error whilst I'm at it? |
| 17:15.44 | deltron | I had a mod lock me up when I was in a raid last night |
| 17:15.48 | deltron | not sure what it was |
| 17:16.16 | Undine | i installed performance_fu a while back to check for performance issues |
| 17:16.29 | Undine | ironically it made performance unacceptable and i had to uninstall it |
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| 17:17.23 | Mikk | performancefu with all stats enabled is not meant for general use no |
| 17:17.41 | Mikk | any debugging costs time and memory |
| 17:17.55 | Undine | just with default options i kept getting sub-second pauses every 5-10 seconds |
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| 17:18.23 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44217 10ArkInventory/Locale/koKR.lua: |
| 17:18.23 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 17:18.23 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 17:18.27 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44218 10AuldLangSyne/Sync/Sync.lua: |
| 17:18.27 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 17:18.27 | CIA-22 | -Sync: Add missing self.faction, lost during the recent module change. |
| 17:18.35 | Kemayo | Undine: I think that should fix the problem. (Probably.) |
| 17:18.37 | Coruss | hmm... wonder if performanceFu could be responsible for my frame drops then... |
| 17:18.43 | Undine | that's what i call service :) |
| 17:19.36 | Antiarc|Work | deltron: Omen. There was an infinite loop error in Threat-1.0 for about an hour. |
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| 17:19.47 | deltron | oh hah |
| 17:19.52 | deltron | that would have explained it |
| 17:20.29 | jme | deltron: that happened to me too |
| 17:21.47 | jme | hmm, 43332 |
| 17:21.47 | Undine | i should get off my arse and get a job ... or learn lua |
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| 17:21.47 | Antiarc|Work | Revisions 44133-44142 are do-not-use |
| 17:21.48 | Undine | i'll either have too much time to whine about bugs, or be able to fix them myself |
| 17:22.00 | jme | Antiarc|Work: so 44181 is fine? |
| 17:22.02 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 17:22.05 | jme | ok |
| 17:27.15 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07EquipmentModifiers * r44219 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: missing event param |
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| 17:30.55 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44220 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (14 files in 11 dirs): |
| 17:30.55 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 17:30.55 | CIA-22 | - Updated localizations koKR |
| 17:30.55 | CIA-22 | - Fixed detail function for koKR |
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| 17:33.35 | Undine | Kemayo, looks good. no errors :) |
| 17:34.13 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44221 10AuldLangSyne/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:34.13 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 17:34.13 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.13 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:36.14 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: not to pressure you but think you'll make a website release (meaning some level of stability) of threat soon? |
| 17:36.30 | Antiarc|Work | Once I have the last few bugs worked out, yes. |
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| 17:39.30 | Fisker- | Antiarc|Work you used some alternative to putty right? |
| 17:39.32 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44222 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/koKR.lua: |
| 17:39.32 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 17:39.33 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44223 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-1.0: Elemental Precision [4/8/12%] -> [4/7/10%] |
| 17:40.05 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: I use putty, why? |
| 17:40.08 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r44224 10RangeCheck-1.0/ (RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua RangeCheck-1.0.toc): RangeCheck-1.0: added support for gladiator gloves |
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| 17:41.13 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 17:41.18 | Fisker- | just thought you said you used something else |
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| 17:42.10 | Fisker- | just gonna do my UNB& trick |
| 17:42.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:42.17 | Fisker- | brb |
| 17:42.55 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44225 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-1.0: Lua's 1-based indexes strike again! |
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| 17:44.17 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44226 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: |
| 17:44.17 | CIA-22 | Quixote: |
| 17:44.17 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:44.41 | sag_ich_nicht | bad antiarc |
| 17:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | don't confuse the index |
| 17:45.16 | sag_ich_nicht | *indexes |
| 17:45.17 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 17:45.38 | sag_ich_nicht | (it's really stupid that it's that way btw. but wth) |
| 17:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | all counting starts a 0, no matter if you go -, + or +i or -+ |
| 17:45.56 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 17:45.59 | sag_ich_nicht | *-i |
| 17:45.59 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
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| 17:48.09 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44227 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/ (Souls.lua Supremus.lua): |
| 17:48.09 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 17:48.09 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:48.48 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: lua is 1-based, not 0-based |
| 17:48.52 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44228 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 17:48.52 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:48.52 | CIA-22 | - Fixed localization koKR |
| 17:49.16 | charon | sag_ich_nicht: use perl. you could start at 0, or 1, or even 165 if you liked. |
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| 17:50.06 | hypetech | does wow use a one roll or two roll system to determine hit/miss/crit etc.? |
| 17:50.45 | Antiarc|Work | Depends on the attack. |
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| 17:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i know. antiarc makes the error of using 0 a lot instead of 1 tho |
| 17:52.52 | hypetech | Antiarc: for mage spells at least |
| 17:52.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: and my reference was mathematical one. :) |
| 17:52.55 | ckknight | bad Antiarc|Work |
| 17:52.59 | ckknight | no banana |
| 17:53.08 | hypetech | Antiarc: and any idea where I can read about the roll system? |
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| 17:53.19 | sag_ich_nicht | *was a |
| 17:53.35 | Rhaene | sorry my irc thing was messed up, I thought nobdy had responded at all |
| 17:53.40 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: At any one time, I'm probably working in at least 3 programming languages concurrently :P |
| 17:54.00 | Undine | there's good stuff on wowiki on the hit roll system, certainly for melee |
| 17:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: so have a your editor color the background differently based on the language you are using. |
| 17:54.45 | Rhaene | so whoever made that one comment: fact of the matter is, me putting my mod on WAU has nothing to do with me, it has to do with the users, and what they want. so wether I have been using WAU or not, shouldn't make a difference wether or not I use it previously |
| 17:55.18 | Rhaene | fact of hte matter is I spent 3/4 of a day rewriting my entire mod from scratch using ace2 libraries just because so many users asked me to get it put on WAU, I thnk thats enough show of dedication as is |
| 17:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:52] <@ckknight> no banana <--That always reminds me of Affenjungs. Inc(which translates to Monkeyboys Inc. basicially) and a friend of mine who used to always run up to them and /trade bananas to them :O |
| 17:55.38 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44229 10Relog/DataStructures.txt: Relog - Adds prelim data structure plan |
| 17:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Rhaene: now that's just stupid |
| 17:55.48 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: lol |
| 17:55.59 | Rhaene | Kaelten|Work: yes Rhaene will do fine for my username, and I dont care what the password is, you can make it whatever you like |
| 17:56.02 | Rhaene | sag_ich_nicht: how so? |
| 17:56.03 | sag_ich_nicht | your mod does not have to be Ace2 to be hosted on the SVN.... |
| 17:56.10 | Rhaene | the code was a mess, it needed to be rewritten anyways |
| 17:56.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:56.20 | Rhaene | sag_ich_nicht: ooo well |
| 17:56.24 | Kaelten|Work | Rhaene: you should have already recieved it |
| 17:56.29 | Rhaene | perfect thanks |
| 17:56.46 | Rhaene | sag_ich_nicht: I didnt realize that, but nonetheless I like the ace2 libraries better now that I'm familiar with them |
| 17:56.51 | Undine | Rhaene, what mod? |
| 17:56.55 | Rhaene | ezIcons |
| 17:56.56 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 17:57.19 | Rhaene | I'd give you a link to a project page, but worldofwar.net seems to be down |
| 17:57.43 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. is there an addon for adding files to SharedMediaLib or will i just have to continue using my 3 line addon that i expand with 1 additional line each time i want another file added in? :P |
| 17:58.28 | ulic | I think there is a SharedMedia addon that houses all the media itself |
| 17:58.39 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: I can't find the thread on it |
| 17:59.09 | hypetech | Antiarc: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10271182&sid=1 |
| 17:59.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:58] <ulic> I think there is a SharedMedia addon that houses all the media itself <--too obvious |
| 17:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | needs more cryptic names! |
| 17:59.54 | Cryect | yeah SharedMedia does that :-p |
| 18:00.01 | Cryect | haha |
| 18:00.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ...that's what annoys me with FOSS the most |
| 18:00.21 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 18:00.53 | Cryect | the lack/abundance of cryptic names? |
| 18:00.57 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:01.01 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 18:01.02 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:01.30 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, the abudance(god it's so hot here i can't even read english properly anymore ><) |
| 18:01.41 | Cryect | heh |
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| 18:06.32 | sb | mhh - how does wow combat log work? |
| 18:06.36 | sb | its not realtime |
| 18:06.47 | sb | but it also no delay till wow is closed |
| 18:06.50 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r44230 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: Reset Marshals on Al'ar death |
| 18:06.57 | sb | is it written periodically? |
| 18:07.03 | Antiarc|Work | It's held in memory and then flushed periodically and when you log out. |
| 18:07.07 | sb | ah |
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| 18:13.26 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44231 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Minor error fix involving precedence |
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| 18:17.19 | dreamss | 14Temperature: 04(Deactivated by user04) |
| 18:17.40 | dreamss | 14Temperature: 04(Case: 18°C, CPU Diode: 40°C, CPU Socket: 25°C, Sensor 4: 127°C, Fan 1: 4963RPM, Fan 2: 5113RPM04) |
| 18:18.00 | Silviu- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.03 | Silviu- | Wtf :D |
| 18:18.05 | sb | :o |
| 18:18.29 | CIA-22 | 03rhaene * r44232 10ezIcons/: Created folder remotely |
| 18:18.30 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r44233 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Fixing function that would return nil tooltip contents. |
| 18:18.42 | Matrix110 | If Sensor 4 doesnt exist |
| 18:18.54 | Matrix110 | the tool displays the highest value possible |
| 18:19.07 | dreamss | yeah just changed mobo] |
| 18:19.14 | dreamss | dunno which sensor are which |
| 18:20.17 | Matrix110 | And Case 18° where the fuck do you live? |
| 18:20.23 | Matrix110 | Southpole? |
| 18:20.29 | dreamss | cali |
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| 18:20.38 | Matrix110 | Its over 30°C already in my room |
| 18:20.43 | dreamss | i have the ac set on insane |
| 18:20.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 18:20.47 | dreamss | 14Temperature: 04(Case: 18°C/64°F, CPU Diode: 43°C/109°F, CPU Socket: 25°C/77°F, Sensor 4: 127°C/261°F, Fan 1: 4963RPM, Fan 2: 5113RPM04) |
| 18:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | 41°C here in my room. |
| 18:21.00 | dreamss | my room is 69 |
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| 18:21.05 | Matrix110 | giev air cooling |
| 18:21.08 | dreamss | dunno why case is colder |
| 18:21.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44234 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Threat-1.0: Optimized Netherspite emote checking (do we even need a Netherspite module?). Removed extraneous comments from a number of other modules. |
| 18:21.15 | Matrix110 | The Sensor sucks:P |
| 18:21.21 | Matrix110 | they are inaccurate |
| 18:21.27 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 18:21.33 | dreamss | its a good mobo |
| 18:21.33 | sag_ich_nicht | my GPU goes to 90°C |
| 18:21.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and the sensor is accurate |
| 18:21.40 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 18:21.53 | Matrix110 | doesnt matter dreamss they still use shitty sensors or calibrate them wrong or not atall |
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| 18:22.47 | Matrix110 | Its like your alarmclock displaying wrong room temps |
| 18:23.10 | CIA-22 | 03rhaene * r44235 10ezIcons/: Removed file/folder |
| 18:23.46 | dreamss | a7n8x2.0 deluxe |
| 18:23.48 | Fisker- | Memory Usage: (Usage: 0/2048MB (0.00%)) ¤ (--------------------------------------------------) |
| 18:23.56 | dreamss | overcloakers mobo |
| 18:24.24 | ckknight | so part of me wants to paint graffiti somewhere with a mathematical proof on it |
| 18:24.26 | Punkie` | Fisker-: did you spill hydroflouric acid on your memory again? |
| 18:24.29 | sag_ich_nicht | RAM Usage: 942/2048MB (46.00%)Â [|||||-----] |
| 18:24.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Virtual Memory: 108/2048MB. |
| 18:24.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Swap File: 783/4964MB. |
| 18:24.37 | NeoTron | a while ago the case temperature on my box was 130ish |
| 18:24.41 | NeoTron | was a really hot day |
| 18:24.51 | dreamss | lo ck |
| 18:24.51 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB non-broken Virtual Mem & swapfile indicator |
| 18:24.54 | CIA-22 | 03rhaene * r44236 10ezIcons/: Created folder remotely |
| 18:25.14 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: maybe it likes having >2x as large swap file as virtual memory? |
| 18:25.40 | ckknight | such as the proof that .999999... repeating = 1 using the convergence theorem of geometric series or so |
| 18:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: my swapfile is only 3070 MB big. |
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| 18:27.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: just spraypaint euler's identity. |
| 18:27.48 | ckknight | ooh |
| 18:27.51 | ckknight | that's a good one |
| 18:28.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ...does a bot in here have a google function? :) |
| 18:28.17 | ckknight | ~google pants |
| 18:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ~google i bet he replies in query if at all |
| 18:28.55 | Matrix110 | ~google blubb mukk grugg |
| 18:28.59 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 18:29.02 | Matrix110 | :-( |
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| 18:29.44 | ckknight | ~listkeys goog |
| 18:29.48 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om84Zc4-KcQ |
| 18:29.52 | ckknight | ~google |
| 18:29.52 | purl | from memory, google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
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| 18:31.15 | Bananaboy | nice unibrow on that commercial |
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| 18:32.38 | vhaarr | ~jfgi |
| 18:32.39 | purl | from memory, jfgi is Just ^%#@ing Google it. |
| 18:32.39 | Bananaboy | "leave skidmarks on your soul"...nice. |
| 18:33.08 | Matrix110 | ~search blubb |
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| 18:38.52 | kebinusan | ~topic |
| 18:40.31 | kebinusan | hmm I see grid appears to support all the SharedMedia bar textures but selecting them does not appear to change the actual bar texture, any suggestions? |
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| 18:51.12 | CIA-22 | 03rewad * r44237 10WoWonid/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:51.12 | CIA-22 | WoWonid: |
| 18:51.12 | CIA-22 | - level 14 added |
| 18:51.12 | CIA-22 | - overview function added |
| 18:51.12 | CIA-22 | - ready for curse-release v1.8 |
| 18:54.09 | ckknight | what's WoWonid? |
| 18:55.49 | ckknight | so I decided for Parrot there's going to be multiple different throttle types |
| 18:55.51 | durcyn | arkonid game, iirc |
| 18:55.54 | ckknight | one for DoTs/HoTs |
| 18:55.57 | ckknight | one for power gains |
| 18:56.03 | ckknight | one for outgoing spells |
| 18:56.16 | ckknight | which will basically allow different times for each |
| 18:56.19 | Mecdemort | hard coded or changable? |
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| 18:56.50 | ckknight | Mecdemort: you'll be able to change the times or disable the throttling on a per-type basis. |
| 18:57.08 | ckknight | by default, everything will be throttled with sane defaults |
| 18:57.16 | Mecdemort | ckknight: cool beans, some people like spam ;p |
| 18:57.18 | sag_ich_nicht | so is parrot in a state where it wtfpwns SCT and mikks version of it yet? :P |
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| 18:57.34 | kergoth | s/mikk/mikord/ |
| 18:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 18:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry :) |
| 18:57.40 | CIA-22 | 03rhaene * r44238 10ezIcons/ (45 files in 14 dirs): ezIcons first release |
| 18:57.44 | Elfranne | Hello |
| 18:57.46 | sag_ich_nicht | bad tab complete, no cookie |
| 18:57.55 | ckknight | it's not reached feature parity yet |
| 18:57.57 | ckknight | but it's close |
| 18:58.02 | Chompers | oh ckknight, i was wondering if it's possible to have procs act as crits eg command procs |
| 18:58.05 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll be waiting :) |
| 18:58.16 | ckknight | act as crits? |
| 18:58.16 | Chompers | it kinda gets lost in the sea of damage being shown |
| 18:58.24 | sag_ich_nicht | he means sticky ckknight |
| 18:58.25 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: I mean, feel free to test it out |
| 18:58.32 | Elfranne | Is there a admin of Omen ? |
| 18:58.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i am lazy. |
| 18:58.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:58.36 | ckknight | Chompers: I'm not sure how to detect procs. |
| 18:58.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Elfranne: no, but a lead dev |
| 18:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | go annoy Antiarc |
| 18:58.44 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 18:58.45 | Chompers | thought so, ah well |
| 18:58.48 | nekoh | ckknight, there is also a need for incoming direct heals (vampiric emprace) |
| 18:58.56 | Elfranne | Thanks sag :) |
| 18:59.03 | nekoh | really spammy with sp in group :) |
| 18:59.22 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44239 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Addresses range bug when max range is nil |
| 18:59.26 | durcyn | and frozen shadoweave. and two-piece malefic. |
| 18:59.32 | ckknight | basically, nekoh, everything will allow throttling |
| 18:59.49 | Chompers | sounds good |
| 18:59.52 | nekoh | ah thats nice, atm im hacking the code for powergains and incoming heals :D |
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| 19:00.42 | CIA-22 | 03rhaene * r44240 10/tags/ezIcons/: Created folder remotely |
| 19:01.31 | harldephin | http://wow.harl.de/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_071907_203350.png |
| 19:01.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44241 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - allow for multiple different types of throttling, so that DoTs/HoTs can be separate from outgoing damage and such. Currently only DoTs/HoTs are supported, though. |
| 19:01.59 | ckknight | adding new throttles is rediculously easy, btw |
| 19:02.06 | ckknight | ridiculously* |
| 19:02.37 | Chompers | that was quick ckknight |
| 19:02.48 | ckknight | I had been working on the code already |
| 19:06.10 | Mecdemort | ok so I'm trying to figure out how the whole revision thing works, I just imported to the sandbox and it start out with revision 143, can anyone give me some info? |
| 19:06.35 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r44242 10/branches/RangeDisplay/: preparing place for branches |
| 19:06.35 | Antiarc|Work | Every commit to the repository is a new revision. |
| 19:06.41 | Antiarc|Work | So there have been 143 commits to the sandbox. |
| 19:06.44 | trh | Mecdemort: every new commit gets it's own revision and you're able to retrieve old revisions |
| 19:07.07 | Antiarc|Work | Elfranne: I'm the Omen Author |
| 19:07.08 | Antiarc|Work | What's up? |
| 19:07.11 | Elfranne | Antiarc are you here ? |
| 19:07.19 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 19:07.21 | Elfranne | Hello |
| 19:07.25 | Mecdemort | oooo I thought it was per addon, but its for every addon? |
| 19:07.27 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.38 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07AceAddon * r44243 10RangeDisplay/: starting work on AceAddon stuff |
| 19:07.45 | trh | Mecdemort: whole wowace directory afaik |
| 19:07.53 | Elfranne | i was surprised to see my name on Omen |
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| 19:08.14 | trh | i guess it could be removed.. no problemo :P |
| 19:08.30 | Mecdemort | trh: Ok that explains a lot. Now that I got that covered, I'm still a little shakey on how the whole $revision:$ thing in files works, anything you can help me with there? |
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| 19:08.55 | Elfranne | but i would know where he find my name ? |
| 19:08.56 | trh | Mecdemort: you need to define a tag that gets replaced with the actual revision number in the svn properties |
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| 19:09.25 | mitch1 | mec: if you set svn:keywords property to Rev, $Rev$ in the file will be expanded on each commit to the actual revision number |
| 19:09.50 | Antiarc|Work | Elfranne: Can you elaborate? |
| 19:09.52 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r44244 10Skinner/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned Baggins, ItemRack, RecipeRadar & Recount |
| 19:10.06 | mitch1 | like: svn propset svn:keywords Rev my.lua |
| 19:10.08 | Mecdemort | so then I can add $revision: $rev$ $ to the files? |
| 19:10.26 | mitch1 | just $Rev$ (mind the capital R) |
| 19:10.32 | Mecdemort | oh ok |
| 19:10.41 | mitch1 | or $Revision$ |
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| 19:10.51 | mitch1 | (same thing, really) |
| 19:11.07 | Mecdemort | And I set it for each file, cant do it globally? |
| 19:11.58 | mitch1 | each file |
| 19:12.14 | trh | i'm not sure, but can't you set it for the directory to be valid in every file in that dir? |
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| 19:12.34 | Mecdemort | Ya I'm trying it recursively |
| 19:12.46 | sb | ckknight: nice :) |
| 19:13.01 | Cryect | mitch1-zZ: why am I getting max range of nil for players further than 9 yds from my mage |
| 19:13.07 | Elfranne | still here Antiarc ? |
| 19:13.39 | NeoTron | Elfranne: he asked you to elaborate |
| 19:13.59 | Elfranne | i don t think a have Helped you |
| 19:14.07 | Elfranne | to this project |
| 19:14.26 | Saint-N | you do realize it could be another elfranne right? |
| 19:14.55 | Antiarc|Work | Elfranne: Where are you seeing your name? |
| 19:15.03 | Elfranne | And i am the only one with this nick on all warcraft servers |
| 19:15.12 | Elfranne | a friend told me |
| 19:15.41 | Antiarc|Work | I don't see your name in it anywhere...I guess I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 19:16.09 | Mecdemort | Ok I think i've got it, now at what point does it replace $Revision$ in the file? |
| 19:16.55 | Mecdemort | OOO nvm i see |
| 19:17.48 | Saint-N | yup no elfranne anywhere in there |
| 19:17.59 | Saint-N | your friend is lying to you ;) |
| 19:18.58 | Saint-N | Antiarc|Work: i ahvent helped either why arent i in the credits? |
| 19:19.04 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 19:19.07 | Antiarc|Work | If you're showing up on an Omen display, it's likely because you have Threat-1.0 embedded in one of your mods. |
| 19:19.17 | Antiarc|Work | Saint-N: That can be fixed! |
| 19:19.22 | Saint-N | woo! |
| 19:19.34 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 19:19.34 | trh | Antiarc: btw: got time yet to include screech detection support for the pet module? =) |
| 19:19.35 | Saint-N | make it a revision commit message too ;P |
| 19:19.43 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44245 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/credits.txt: Threat-1.0: VERY IMPORTANT CREDITS UPDATE |
| 19:19.44 | Antiarc|Work | trh: I've not :( |
| 19:19.49 | Saint-N | hahahaha |
| 19:19.53 | Antiarc|Work | I need to add the gorilla's thunderstomp too |
| 19:19.56 | Saint-N | woo! |
| 19:20.10 | trh | Antiarc|Work: hehe.. it isn't too important :) |
| 19:20.25 | Saint-N | trh == the racist hunter? |
| 19:20.26 | Silviu- | - Saint-N for doing nothing at all |
| 19:20.29 | Silviu- | haha |
| 19:20.32 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44246 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: bugfix cooldown for shamans |
| 19:20.33 | Saint-N | awesome |
| 19:20.41 | trh | Saint-N: no, lol :) |
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| 19:21.08 | trh | Saint-N: the nick originates from like 1995 or something ;) |
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| 19:21.25 | Saint-N | or something? |
| 19:21.33 | trh | Saint-N: can't remember the exact year :) |
| 19:21.37 | Saint-N | heh |
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| 19:21.50 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r44247 10Sphere/ (26 files in 15 dirs): Sphere: - Added Modules/Class Modules (They do not do much yet) |
| 19:21.52 | trh | Saint-N: maybe even a year or two older :) |
| 19:21.58 | Saint-N | GASP! |
| 19:22.04 | Saint-N | so thats it short for? |
| 19:22.22 | Saint-N | Terrance Rodney Howard? |
| 19:22.26 | trh | top secret :P |
| 19:22.27 | jme | ~whalecrit Saint-N |
| 19:22.28 | purl | ACTION crits Saint-N with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Saint-N dies |
| 19:22.37 | trh | it'll haunt you in your dreams, that you'll never know :P |
| 19:22.57 | Saint-N | science loses! |
| 19:23.27 | Saint-N | Totally Ron Howard |
| 19:23.35 | [dRaCo] | you don't believe in whales? |
| 19:23.35 | trh | no wai :) |
| 19:23.37 | Saint-N | heh |
| 19:23.40 | Saint-N | yes |
| 19:23.47 | Saint-N | if i dont believe in things they cant hurt me |
| 19:23.52 | trh | i don't even know who the hell ron howard is :) |
| 19:23.57 | trh | or.. wait |
| 19:24.00 | [dRaCo] | that scientology guy |
| 19:24.03 | trh | wasn't that the scientology guy |
| 19:24.03 | trh | ah |
| 19:24.10 | Saint-N | opey from andy griffith and the main guy from happy days |
| 19:24.14 | Saint-N | err opie |
| 19:24.48 | Saint-N | that was ron hubbard |
| 19:24.48 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 19:24.48 | Saint-N | l. ron hubbard |
| 19:24.48 | trh | w/e :) |
| 19:24.48 | Chompers | crazy guy! |
| 19:24.50 | [dRaCo] | same initials :þ |
| 19:25.01 | Saint-N | the ron hubbard ;P |
| 19:25.30 | Saint-N | trh is dianetic! |
| 19:25.38 | Saint-N | dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnn |
| 19:25.49 | trh | na.. i prefer in not to believe that little aliens were burnt in vulcanos :) |
| 19:26.00 | trh | and their ghosts are now everything evil in the world |
| 19:26.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174763906&postId=1744694952&sid=1#0 <-- why do rogues only pair with other rogues in 2v2 arena? |
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| 19:26.24 | Saint-N | you've only looked at the book like twice to get that conclusion havent you ;P |
| 19:26.26 | Matrix110 | they dont |
| 19:26.28 | Antiarc|Work | I pair with a resto shaman and it's sexy. |
| 19:26.28 | trh | RaydenUnicyclist: they do also group with druids |
| 19:26.37 | Matrix110 | Mage+Rogue is fun:P |
| 19:26.39 | NimbleRabit | Is there some way to make it show which closetgnome set an item is in on the tooltip? |
| 19:26.41 | NimbleRabit | I remember seeing it once |
| 19:26.55 | jme | what should a huntard pair with? |
| 19:26.55 | RaydenUni | according to those stats rogues roup with rogues about 94% of the time |
| 19:27.01 | RaydenUni | group* |
| 19:27.04 | jme | hmm pally |
| 19:27.16 | Saint-N | jme: the only people that will take them, paladins ;P |
| 19:27.18 | NimbleRabit | jme: holy priest/hunter is currently the most successful hunter in 2v2 |
| 19:27.29 | [dRaCo] | NimbleRabit: yes, there is closetgnome_tooltip or smth like that |
| 19:27.32 | NimbleRabit | they spam viper sting or w/e takes mana + mana burn while kiting |
| 19:27.32 | jme | Saint-N: heh |
| 19:27.35 | trh | NimbleRabit: but still bad compared to pala/warri |
| 19:27.42 | RaydenUni | hunters have problems in the arena, but it is also alarming that rogues aren't grouping with anyone but rogues |
| 19:27.47 | jme | NimbleRabit: :o |
| 19:27.53 | NimbleRabit | trh: it's also a hard counter to pala/warrior... |
| 19:27.57 | sb | Antiarc|Work: mhh - global pet threat clearing doesnt work |
| 19:28.07 | RaydenUni | i just a funny video of a 5 moonkin team :D |
| 19:28.12 | Antiarc|Work | sb: Bah. That's the second report I've had of that. Any more details? |
| 19:28.13 | NimbleRabit | [dRaCo]: thanks |
| 19:28.15 | Saint-N | the boomkins? |
| 19:28.29 | [dRaCo] | link, rayden? |
| 19:28.31 | trh | NimbleRabit: it's impossible if they both know how to play.. only chance is maybe a hunter/warlock team with a bit critluck |
| 19:28.33 | Saint-N | i love that video |
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| 19:28.43 | NimbleRabit | lol ok trh |
| 19:28.45 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/19/wow-moviewatch-moonfire-cannon/ <-- 5 moonkin arena video |
| 19:28.50 | RaydenUni | funny when they use shadowmeld |
| 19:28.56 | Saint-N | yeah thats the one |
| 19:29.05 | Saint-N | moonfire spam away! |
| 19:29.05 | jme | two mages would be interesting.. if someone breaks out of a sheep with the insignia, the other can just resheep them |
| 19:29.05 | RaydenUni | so many treants |
| 19:29.12 | jme | i don't have a clue what the sheep cooldown is either |
| 19:29.17 | trh | RaydenUni: i'm guessing most people die to them because they laugh so hard ;) |
| 19:29.19 | Antiarc|Work | No CD |
| 19:29.23 | jme | ah, nevermind then |
| 19:29.26 | RaydenUni | probably |
| 19:29.32 | RaydenUni | donce, donce! |
| 19:29.45 | RaydenUni | i think one big problem would be, which do you kill first? |
| 19:29.45 | Saint-N | "who makes a 5 moonkin te..... god dammit im dead!" |
| 19:29.50 | NimbleRabit | trh: you realize warrior/pally isn't even close to the strongest 2v2 right/ |
| 19:29.56 | RaydenUni | usually you decide to kill the priest or the mage, but if they are all the same? |
| 19:30.20 | Saint-N | RaydenUni: and particularly annoying if you dont have nameplates on |
| 19:30.20 | sb | Antiarc|Work: mhh - detail as in? |
| 19:30.22 | RaydenUni | it's certainly the most popular NimbleRabit |
| 19:30.30 | Saint-N | would be like fighting jaunice ;P |
| 19:30.36 | Antiarc|Work | sb: Steps to reproduce, what pet, which fight, etc. |
| 19:30.36 | sb | Antiarc|Work: 2 hunter pets |
| 19:30.36 | jme | i need to probably farm some BG resilience gear before i start arenas |
| 19:30.45 | NimbleRabit | RaydenUni: I'll agree with you there |
| 19:31.08 | RaydenUni | uh, wowwiki says polymorph has no cooldown... |
| 19:31.09 | sb | mhh trash Antiarc|Work |
| 19:31.12 | sb | so no idea yet :p |
| 19:31.12 | RaydenUni | that can't be right |
| 19:31.18 | trh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk <- old, but great :) |
| 19:31.22 | Antiarc|Work | sb: Are you doing a manual clear? |
| 19:31.24 | jme | RaydenUni: i think it is correct |
| 19:31.28 | [dRaCo] | just gcd |
| 19:31.30 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUni: That's correct |
| 19:31.34 | Antiarc|Work | No cooldown, just the GDC |
| 19:31.37 | Antiarc|Work | GCD, even. |
| 19:31.38 | RaydenUni | GDC? |
| 19:31.43 | jme | global cooldown |
| 19:31.43 | sb | Antiarc|Work: no |
| 19:31.43 | [dRaCo] | global cooldown |
| 19:31.49 | trh | NimbleRabit: i wouldn't know a single combo that could defeat them always |
| 19:32.00 | Antiarc|Work | sb: I'm confused then. What's not clearing on what event? |
| 19:32.05 | jme | i noticed that Intimidation isn't on the GCD |
| 19:32.12 | NimbleRabit | no combo defeats another combo "always" but there are ones that do pretty consistently |
| 19:32.20 | NimbleRabit | like any good hunter/priest |
| 19:32.25 | NimbleRabit | strong priest/lock teams |
| 19:32.27 | NimbleRabit | druid/lock teams |
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| 19:32.33 | RaydenUni | so then why am i not sheeped four times in a row when i fight mages? |
| 19:32.40 | NimbleRabit | diminishing returns |
| 19:32.42 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUni: Diminishing returns |
| 19:32.46 | NimbleRabit | first is 12 seconds, second is 6, third is 3 |
| 19:32.49 | NimbleRabit | 4th is "immune" |
| 19:32.49 | trh | NimbleRabit: lol? running around the pillar? |
| 19:32.52 | RaydenUni | i know, that gives you four sheeps |
| 19:32.53 | RaydenUni | or 3 |
| 19:33.01 | Antiarc|Work | Because it becomes a whole lot less worth it |
| 19:33.13 | jme | <- definitely needs the insignia |
| 19:33.24 | RaydenUni | i guess they don't even need it when they fight my rogue if they are good |
| 19:33.29 | RaydenUni | yay for teleport and nova! |
| 19:33.41 | Antiarc|Work | CloS can screw a mage pretty badly |
| 19:33.45 | sb | Antiarc|Work: we are doing trash - and after leaving combat (mobs are dead :p) those 2 pets remain in my global threat list |
| 19:33.46 | RaydenUni | i'm 29 |
| 19:33.49 | RaydenUni | doing some BG |
| 19:33.51 | Antiarc|Work | Frost mages can get lucky with frostbite procs though |
| 19:33.51 | Antiarc|Work | Ah |
| 19:33.59 | Antiarc|Work | sb: Aha, okay. Thanks. |
| 19:34.14 | NimbleRabit | trh: Yeah? Those combos still beat warrior/pally. |
| 19:34.34 | RaydenUni | can pallies remove dots? |
| 19:34.51 | trh | NimbleRabit: err? the warrior charges the priest, paladin stuns the hunter, priest dead |
| 19:34.51 | NimbleRabit | they can cleanse magic abilities yes |
| 19:34.53 | sb | ckknight: mhhhm - mana/hp gain thresshold isnt in yet, is it? |
| 19:34.55 | sb | -s |
| 19:34.56 | trh | NimbleRabit: hunter follows fast |
| 19:34.59 | NimbleRabit | lmao |
| 19:35.03 | NimbleRabit | you must not play at 400 resilience levels |
| 19:35.07 | Saint-N | alize is soooo sexy |
| 19:35.10 | Saint-N | alizee |
| 19:35.13 | RaydenUni | my highest is a 66 priest so i haven't done much arena |
| 19:35.25 | RaydenUni | i'm just wondering how well a warlock shadow priest would do against a warrior and pally |
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| 19:35.31 | trh | NimbleRabit: ok, that 400 resilience levels warlocks get pretty good |
| 19:35.37 | trh | NimbleRabit: at |
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| 19:35.49 | nuoHep | Saint-N, id hit her... |
| 19:35.50 | jme | i saw a hunter on another realm on the forums with 363 resilience |
| 19:36.03 | jme | 3x S2, 2x S1, bg purps |
| 19:36.05 | trh | NimbleRabit: so a priest/warlock team may kill them, but i couldn't imagine a hunter/priest doing that |
| 19:36.10 | jme | hmm |
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| 19:36.34 | NimbleRabit | hunter kites warrior while viper stinging paladin |
| 19:36.39 | NimbleRabit | puts his pet that stacks poisons on paladin |
| 19:36.43 | NimbleRabit | so it's hard to cleanse |
| 19:36.45 | jme | viper sting has a 1 or 2m CD, i forget |
| 19:36.48 | RaydenUni | what should i tell my friend who says warlocks are now severely underpowered. before they weren't unbalanced, it was a problem with all the other classes? |
| 19:36.49 | NimbleRabit | priest dispells freedoms so hunter can kite warrior |
| 19:36.56 | NimbleRabit | priest also mana burns paladins |
| 19:36.59 | NimbleRabit | paladin* |
| 19:37.16 | trh | NimbleRabit: big cooldown on viper sting, at 400 resilience not doing good damage to the warrior/paladin |
| 19:37.24 | NimbleRabit | cooldown? |
| 19:37.25 | trh | NimbleRabit: due to lowest crit rate of all ranged classes |
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| 19:37.29 | Antiarc|Work | Cleanse is instant |
| 19:37.33 | Sedai | I HAS FIRES FROM MOON! |
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| 19:37.37 | Antiarc|Work | Having a pet on the paladin won't inhibit cleanse at all |
| 19:37.43 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 19:37.45 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, poisons, right |
| 19:37.49 | NimbleRabit | you can't sit there and cleanse yourself over and over |
| 19:37.54 | NimbleRabit | you'll eventually lose |
| 19:37.56 | trh | NimbleRabit: yep, 15 seconds on viper sting |
| 19:38.00 | Sedai | a poison |
| 19:38.03 | Sedai | ous pet |
| 19:38.06 | Sedai | like spider |
| 19:38.14 | NimbleRabit | right |
| 19:38.22 | Aenslaed | not spider, scorpions |
| 19:38.27 | Antiarc|Work | Warlocks are not underpowered. They're pretty middle-of-the-road though. |
| 19:38.48 | Aenslaed | scorpid poisons are bugged in that they stack up real quick and have a higher cleanse/abolish poison priority than viper sting |
| 19:39.09 | RaydenUni | as a rogue i can't stand them |
| 19:39.24 | RaydenUni | but i'm not properly equipped with spells yet |
| 19:39.30 | Sedai | meh |
| 19:39.33 | NeoTron | for a well equipped moonkin, how much damage does a moonfire do? |
| 19:39.38 | Sedai | cos > any poison |
| 19:39.42 | Aenslaed | what? rogue is > warlock |
| 19:39.45 | Aenslaed | by far |
| 19:39.49 | NimbleRabit | trh: I mean I have a team that isn't even ideal vs warrior/pally and we do extremely well against it |
| 19:40.11 | Sedai | in beta CoS was affected by preperation |
| 19:40.15 | Sedai | i miss that dearly |
| 19:40.16 | NeoTron | warlocks rock in pve.. but aren't ideal for arenas |
| 19:40.17 | NimbleRabit | mookin/rogue |
| 19:40.29 | Aenslaed | clos was also a 41 point ability though |
| 19:40.39 | trh | NimbleRabit: guess that's a good combo due to the rogue slowing the warrior and the boomkin doing magic damage |
| 19:40.40 | RaydenUni | <Aenslaed> what? rogue is > warlock <-- not at lvl 29 :D |
| 19:40.52 | mitch0 | cryect: you still around? |
| 19:41.01 | Aenslaed | This is a talk about balance in twink bgs? |
| 19:41.12 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 19:41.15 | Antiarc|Work | CloS lets rogues beat warlocks rather soundly, provided it's up and the warlock is not extremely disciplined. |
| 19:41.20 | trh | NimbleRabit: but i guess you don't do that good against other teams |
| 19:41.21 | RaydenUni | i haven't played a rogue higher than 20 |
| 19:41.45 | Cryect | mitch0: yeah |
| 19:41.49 | Saint-N | wooo! |
| 19:41.56 | Saint-N | the grind episode 2 on myndflame! |
| 19:42.42 | RaydenUni | link? |
| 19:42.52 | Saint-N | "we prefer to cater to gnomes, because we're horribly horribly racist |
| 19:42.56 | mitch0 | cryect: so, what's the prob with the ranges? |
| 19:43.04 | Saint-N | http://www.myndflame.com/index.php?categoryid=3&p803_sectionid=999999&p803_fileid=66&p803_js_on=1&s=0f8167bba656c60e952ad73d059e618b |
| 19:43.17 | Cryect | mitch0: getting a max range of 0 on my mage to party members if they are over 9 yards away |
| 19:43.26 | Cryect | I mean nil |
| 19:43.27 | Cryect | not 0 |
| 19:43.42 | mitch0 | hm. strange |
| 19:43.49 | Cryect | there is spells for 30 yds and interact distance of course as well for more than 9 yds |
| 19:44.14 | mitch0 | cryect: what level are you? |
| 19:44.17 | Cryect | 66 |
| 19:44.34 | Cryect | someone was complaining about it also I think on a 70 but not sure on that one |
| 19:44.56 | mitch0 | does it happen only to party members, or to any "friendly" unit? |
| 19:45.06 | Cryect | will have to test later |
| 19:45.21 | Cryect | just noticed on party members since I'm in a party and thats what its working with |
| 19:45.26 | Cryect | currently helping out a friend |
| 19:45.29 | nevcairiel | whats the macro option for the target-next-enemy function? (normally bound to tab key) |
| 19:45.37 | nevcairiel | *macro command |
| 19:46.13 | NightHawkAtWork | nevcairiel: um, /targetnearestenemy maybe? |
| 19:46.24 | mitch0 | cryect: enUS locale? |
| 19:46.30 | nevcairiel | no wont work |
| 19:46.40 | NimbleRabit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.46 | Cryect | mitch0: yes |
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| 19:47.20 | nevcairiel | ah thanks |
| 19:47.49 | mitch0 | cryect: and you got that display in RangeDisplay or via DogTag (pitbull, or Cowtip)? |
| 19:48.18 | sb | Parrot-r44241\CombatEvents.lua:939: attempt to index local 'info' (a boolean value) |
| 19:48.20 | sb | 1000000 errors ;/ |
| 19:48.50 | sb | 1x Parrot-r44241\CombatEvents.lua:952: attempt to index global 't' (a nil value |
| 19:49.06 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184874141898.jpg |
| 19:49.12 | NightHawkAtWork | meh, i was close |
| 19:49.57 | [dRaCo] | /b/tard! |
| 19:50.02 | Fisker- | no u |
| 19:50.20 | sb | Parrot-r44241\CombatEvents.lua:939: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 19:50.43 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work look at tps http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071907223708on6.jpg :) |
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| 19:51.15 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, fixing that now. |
| 19:51.26 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 19:51.33 | Silviu- | New record 8 k :P |
| 19:52.15 | Cryect | mitch0: with Recount I will setup a test case later |
| 19:52.46 | sb | ckknight? :) |
| 19:54.15 | raider|poul | i have a dude when he go into combat his blizzard standart target frame just disapeer |
| 19:54.53 | charon | ckknight: : regarding procs, those just seem to be special names given to ordinary events, don't they? e.g. according to swunilog the message for malorne harness 2-piece cat proc is "You gain 20 Energy from Bloodlust." |
| 19:55.18 | charon | others are buff gains with some special name |
| 19:56.32 | Saint-N | it's like stroling through a claustrophobic tunnel of jello with a bag of retarded kittens on your back |
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| 19:56.40 | Saint-N | hahah |
| 19:57.59 | mitch0 | cryect: sounds pretty strange |
| 19:58.44 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44248 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a misplaced line that was causing oscillation in TPS, resulting in severely inflated TPS over the course of a long fight. Removed some old commented out code. |
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| 20:03.16 | Antiarc|Work | Working now? |
| 20:03.41 | trh | one more day at university and then FREE until mid october :) |
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| 20:03.59 | trh | (sorry to the working folks :P |
| 20:04.19 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r44249 10Cartographer_Sidelist/Cartographer_Sidelist.lua: |
| 20:04.19 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 20:04.19 | CIA-22 | - mixin AceDebug |
| 20:04.19 | CIA-22 | - reorder local functions first |
| 20:04.19 | CIA-22 | - showTablet func to manage hiding/showing sidelist |
| 20:04.20 | CIA-22 | - sidelist open/closed state is now persistent |
| 20:04.23 | pastamancer | so you'll have ample time to help me! |
| 20:04.30 | V^ | does anyone have a problem with Pitbull where buffs and debuffs stick to the powerspark, and the background to the target frame sometimes looks like a buff icon :\ |
| 20:04.40 | trh | pastamancer: hehe.. no.. got some tests in that time =) |
| 20:04.43 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44250 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Made a fix to the running sum that will prevent problems with TPS if the number of considered TPS samples are reduced during combat. |
| 20:06.04 | Bananaboy | as a complete noob when it comes to php, any advice on installation of a mirror of Antiarc's armory tools? |
| 20:06.38 | Antiarc|Work | PHP5 and mysql 3.23 or better. |
| 20:06.46 | Saint-N | wamp |
| 20:07.00 | Saint-N | wamp/lamp |
| 20:07.25 | Bananaboy | ah. so if we're using php 4.4.6, we probably have porting issues? |
| 20:07.28 | Antiarc|Work | Correct |
| 20:07.36 | Antiarc|Work | 4.4.6 doesn't include exception handling or simplexml |
| 20:07.54 | Bananaboy | ok. thx. was wondering if the parse errors were a result of that. |
| 20:07.59 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. |
| 20:08.03 | clad|book | can someone give me the german word for Hunter in WoW, without the \xxx sequences, like with the actual characters? |
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| 20:08.36 | Fisker- | Jäger i guess |
| 20:08.46 | Fisker- | can check it |
| 20:08.57 | Fisker- | Jäger yeah |
| 20:09.13 | trh | clad|book: it's "Jäger" |
| 20:09.17 | Bananaboy | doh...just read the README in the SVN again. I coulda sworn that it said PHP4 before...my bad. Reading ftw. |
| 20:09.34 | clad|book | trh: thanks |
| 20:09.55 | trh | Fisker-: he ignores you :P |
| 20:10.00 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. If it says PHP4, then it's wrong and I need to fix it ;) |
| 20:10.16 | mitch0 | cryect: can you show the code you use? |
| 20:10.17 | Bananaboy | no. it says php5. I'm just not reading it correctly |
| 20:10.28 | Fisker- | That's a smart thing trh :o |
| 20:10.29 | Bananaboy | apologies for bothering. |
| 20:10.50 | Cryect | local _, max = rc:getRange(unit) |
| 20:10.52 | Antiarc|Work | No problem |
| 20:11.18 | trh | i wonder if jägermeister is known in the usa :P |
| 20:11.32 | fireglow | it is afaik |
| 20:11.41 | Cryect | mitch0: testing it with rangedisplay now |
| 20:11.46 | trh | ya.. heard it once in a u.s. tv-show =) |
| 20:11.56 | trh | but that doesn't really mean anything |
| 20:12.08 | Cryect | mitch0: which interestingly enough it seems to work fine with |
| 20:12.12 | Coruss | trh: we know about jager in canada, so they probly have it in the states |
| 20:12.21 | mitch0 | how do you call rangecheck? |
| 20:12.35 | Cryect | local rc = AceLibrary("RangeCheck-1.0") |
| 20:12.37 | trh | Coruss: they called it "jaeger-sauce" in that show ;) |
| 20:13.06 | Fisker- | http://www.jager.com |
| 20:13.16 | mitch0 | local min, max = rc:getRange('target') ? |
| 20:13.39 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:13.45 | trh | Fisker-: kinda weird to read it without the umlaut ;) |
| 20:13.59 | Fisker- | the site doesn't even have exception handling for numbers |
| 20:14.01 | Cryect | <Cryect> local _, max = rc:getRange(unit) |
| 20:14.06 | kergoth | is the rangecheck guy in here atm btw? |
| 20:14.09 | Fisker- | failure |
| 20:14.09 | Cryect | is how I'm calling it |
| 20:14.15 | Cryect | where unit is whoever I'm checking of course |
| 20:14.21 | kergoth | it keeps showing '41+' in between two ranges that are close |
| 20:14.31 | Cryect | unfortunately lost my party member at the moment and seems to work fine with 'target' |
| 20:14.35 | kergoth | i.e. 10-11 and 13-14 and when at 12 it seems to show 41+ |
| 20:14.41 | mitch0 | kergoth: what class? what ranges? |
| 20:14.42 | kergoth | (pulling numbers ut of my ass to shw the beahvior) |
| 20:14.48 | kergoth | i'll get the crrect numbers |
| 20:14.52 | kergoth | its a hunter with hawk eye |
| 20:15.34 | mitch0 | hrmp |
| 20:15.44 | Saroz | Antiarc, mage invisiblity doesnt reset threat, it seems |
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| 20:16.12 | Saroz | (it should, but threat doesnt see it) |
| 20:16.35 | kergoth | not sure if this was introduced recently.. i didnt see it in the past, but i respec'd to this build relatively recently too |
| 20:16.43 | kergoth | so its either a recent code change, or hawk eye |
| 20:17.37 | mitch0 | what does hawk eye do exactly? |
| 20:17.53 | trh | mitch0: click somewhere, have your camera at that position |
| 20:17.59 | trh | mitch0: only works outdoors |
| 20:18.10 | trh | mitch0: pretty much useless except for battlegrounds maybe |
| 20:18.20 | mitch0 | eh. shouldn't make any difference then |
| 20:18.47 | trh | mitch0: theres also a talent that's called that i think |
| 20:18.54 | kergoth | i'm talking about the survival talent |
| 20:18.56 | trh | mitch0: that'd be range increase by 6 yards for 3 points |
| 20:19.11 | kergoth | yea, 2 years per point |
| 20:19.18 | CIA-22 | 03mcc * r44251 10DrDamage/DrDamage.toc: |
| 20:19.18 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 20:19.18 | CIA-22 | - add zhTW translation |
| 20:19.23 | mitch0 | kergoth: and you got all 3 points, right? |
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| 20:19.26 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:19.35 | trh | except for bm hunters, EVERY hunter got them =) |
| 20:19.48 | mitch0 | ok, maybe some ranges are mixed up then |
| 20:20.00 | kergoth | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Suramar&n=Archet |
| 20:20.02 | mitch0 | would be nice to know the exact numbers where it gets strange |
| 20:20.06 | vithos | trh: that spell you're talking about is eagle eye |
| 20:20.29 | trh | vithos: oh... right.... eagle.. hawk... no big difference anyway :P |
| 20:20.50 | deltron | kergoth: that yours? |
| 20:20.52 | vithos | but yeah, i miss hawkeye as BM :( |
| 20:21.04 | trh | vithos: kinda sucks that it is in survival |
| 20:21.12 | trh | vithos: back in the old days it way MM :( |
| 20:21.14 | kergoth | yea.. he's new to 70, and only using this build till i can level my lowbie pets to 70 and go back to BM |
| 20:21.14 | mitch0 | wtb lvl70 every char on ptr... :( |
| 20:21.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:21.40 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: bug on vashj http://ace.pastey.net/71060 |
| 20:22.05 | deltron | kergoth: heh I don't know anyone in that guild |
| 20:22.15 | Antiarc|Work | Bah, okay. |
| 20:22.18 | Antiarc|Work | I need to deal with that. |
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| 20:23.46 | mitch0 | d |
| 20:24.03 | mitch0 | cryect: btw, are you a fire mage with flame throwing and gladiator gloves by any chance? |
| 20:24.37 | kergoth | deltron, its a small one.. few folks i knew from bod/gug are there. was trying to hit sanc with zeb, but no raiding guilds need rogues :\ |
| 20:24.39 | sb | ckknight? *ping* |
| 20:24.51 | deltron | :( |
| 20:25.00 | deltron | maybe I could get them to let you in heh |
| 20:25.53 | kergoth | doubt it, kaine's the class lead and he replied to the post with "god, it's raining rogues! why can't some of you people be shadow priests?" or something :P |
| 20:26.05 | deltron | lol |
| 20:26.12 | deltron | yeah, I saw that heh |
| 20:26.32 | deltron | my highest level alt is a shadow priest :P |
| 20:26.48 | kergoth | i dunno, i checked a bunch of raid guilds, some farther along than sanc, some less so, and rogues just arent in demand nowadays.. maybe i'll gear up archet and take him to one |
| 20:27.08 | jme | huntards aren't in demand either =( |
| 20:27.18 | jme | all i hear is warlock shadowpriest |
| 20:27.24 | jme | well, see |
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| 20:28.19 | kergoth | boo |
| 20:28.25 | Gngsk | kergoth, where can I find your latest version of that combo point tracker? |
| 20:28.47 | kergoth | i'll resurrect the latest on the svn, was planning on putting releases here anyway |
| 20:28.52 | kergoth | just havent had a chance to release the next version yet |
| 20:28.52 | mitch0 | bit afk, sorry |
| 20:28.54 | Saint-N | rogues serv a purpose |
| 20:29.08 | trh | Saint-N: yeah.. making other classes look good :P |
| 20:29.21 | Saint-N | but its mainly the guild makeup, you can either bring a multi purpose dps or pure dps or a rogue that can ONLY do dps |
| 20:29.23 | Gngsk | kergoth, cool have you had a chance to look into the green dots for deadly poison charges? |
| 20:29.49 | Saint-N | and most raiding locks kick the crap out of rogue dps |
| 20:29.52 | kergoth | not yet, havent done much coding lately. going to work on it this weekend though, that and kenergy both |
| 20:29.54 | jme | Saint-N: we like shadow priests for shackling in kara apparently |
| 20:29.59 | jme | Saint-N: i very rarely drop a trap |
| 20:29.59 | Saint-N | and most shadow priests are WAY more useful than just dps |
| 20:30.14 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 20:30.17 | Gngsk | kergoth, ok, looking forward to it. I'll keep an eye out incase you need some testing. |
| 20:30.33 | Saint-N | not to mention the whole decent dps+healing+mana battery attached to them melting faces |
| 20:31.25 | Saint-N | we bring hunters and rogues along for the repetative leather and mail drops ;P |
| 20:31.35 | kergoth | meh.. i dont like playing a priest or a warlock |
| 20:31.39 | kergoth | maybe i should start a warrior |
| 20:31.42 | jme | Saint-N: bah, wtb more mail drops in kara |
| 20:31.52 | jme | Saint-N: and higher rolls for my t4 |
| 20:31.54 | Saint-N | hehe ive yet to see cloth drop on ANY kara run ive been on |
| 20:32.00 | jme | wow |
| 20:32.03 | Saint-N | im like a horrible squishy jinx |
| 20:32.04 | trh | Saint-N: good bm-hunters rock the damage meters with like 10-20% to the next one on #1 |
| 20:32.08 | jme | first kara run i was on dropped cloth every boss |
| 20:32.17 | Saint-N | trh: good hunters are rare though |
| 20:32.28 | trh | true |
| 20:32.33 | jme | trh: i was tied with a rogue and frost mage last night for the top 3 dps spots |
| 20:32.48 | jme | trh: i'm testing my 41/20 MM/surv spec tonight to see how it compares |
| 20:32.48 | Saint-N | kergoth: how can you not like playing priest? |
| 20:33.12 | Saint-N | if you want fun go play ret pally ;P |
| 20:33.13 | jme | trh: literally tied... we were all within .6% of 18.5% total damage |
| 20:33.23 | Saint-N | til about level 40 or so |
| 20:33.32 | Saint-N | thats great times solo fun |
| 20:33.47 | trh | jme: try 41/20 bm/mm, use a scorpion, pop all attack power/dmg increasing cooldowns before letting the scorpion apply the first poison dot |
| 20:33.58 | Josh_Borke | anyone use svnmailer? |
| 20:34.00 | jme | trh: that's what i've been using for a few weeks |
| 20:34.08 | jme | trh: except a cat instead of a scorpion |
| 20:34.26 | trh | jme: the scorpion is the dps thing, because all ap bonusses get applied to the poison dot |
| 20:34.37 | jme | trh: including RAP? |
| 20:34.38 | trh | jme: on first application, and usually last until the dot runs out |
| 20:34.48 | trh | jme: not sure.. look at the spelldamage increase of your pet :) |
| 20:35.11 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:35.14 | trh | jme: with 4000ap (buffed and everything) as a orc a dot tick can do like 1k |
| 20:35.21 | jme | trh: wow |
| 20:35.22 | Arrowmaster | that sounds so broken |
| 20:35.25 | jme | yeah |
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| 20:35.34 | trh | i guess it is :) |
| 20:35.36 | jme | trh: i've only got ~1475 with hawk |
| 20:35.45 | vithos | 4000 |
| 20:35.46 | vithos | ? |
| 20:36.00 | trh | jme: that's poor.. even i got 21xx with hawk and 28-29% crit =) |
| 20:36.10 | jme | trh: yeah well i don't have any t4 yet either ;) |
| 20:36.17 | jme | trh: gear is still soso |
| 20:36.17 | ckknight | sb: pong |
| 20:36.24 | trh | !c eu aegwynn vane |
| 20:36.32 | jme | trh: http://tinyurl.com/38f4sw |
| 20:36.37 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-183.handshake.de) |
| 20:36.39 | deltron | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/19/small-orc-shoulders-official/ |
| 20:36.50 | trh | !c eu-aegwynn vane |
| 20:37.14 | ckknight | sb: no, I'm not 100% sure how to implement that yet |
| 20:37.24 | ckknight | sb: I'm thinking of putting in throttling for it, though |
| 20:37.24 | ThraeBot | trh: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 20:37.30 | ckknight | which should alleviate the issue immensely |
| 20:37.49 | Elkano | ok, ck, you made me install WoW on my old desktop pc just to check out CowTip and Parrot :/ |
| 20:38.01 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:38.08 | jme | i should've rolled orc or troll |
| 20:38.18 | trh | jme: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=Vane |
| 20:38.21 | Mecdemort | ok some addons put their :register stuff outside of OnInitialize and some put them inside, is there any specifics here? |
| 20:38.24 | deltron | I love my trolls :) |
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| 20:38.32 | Elkano | so, here you go ck: Parrot-r44241\\CombatEvents.lua:938: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got number) |
| 20:38.33 | trh | love teh orcs :) |
| 20:38.49 | Elkano | Parrot-r44241\\CombatEvents.lua:939: attempt to index local 'info' (a boolean value) |
| 20:38.51 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_071707_210946.jpg <-- thoughts? |
| 20:38.51 | jme | i'm gonna reroll all of my alts orc/troll |
| 20:39.11 | jme | all 3 of them :( |
| 20:39.12 | RaydenUni | trolls rule |
| 20:39.21 | RaydenUni | orcs are kind of silly often |
| 20:39.28 | RaydenUni | orc warlocks look downright ridiculous |
| 20:39.34 | RaydenUni | and orc rogues? lawl |
| 20:39.50 | kergoth | i like my orc hunter and troll rogue |
| 20:39.56 | kergoth | hm, http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/resources/petcalc_visual.shtml is neat |
| 20:40.04 | deltron | RaydenUni: that's a good layout |
| 20:40.11 | jme | trh: wow-eu isn't loading for me |
| 20:40.20 | trh | jme: to me neither.. dang ;) |
| 20:41.00 | RaydenUni | BE are queer |
| 20:41.03 | RaydenUni | dranei should have been horde |
| 20:41.05 | jme | pfft |
| 20:41.52 | trh | RaydenUni: http://www.shakes-and-fidget.com/Episoden/Episode%2034_Burning%20Crusade/e26_FINAL.jpg explains it pretty good ;) |
| 20:42.10 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/myui071707.jpg <= so close to a nice good ui now |
| 20:42.13 | RaydenUni | do i need to be able to read german much? |
| 20:42.26 | trh | RaydenUni: not really.. it's pretty much self-explaining with the pictures ;) |
| 20:42.30 | RaydenUni | k |
| 20:42.44 | deltron | heh I don't need to read german |
| 20:42.45 | RaydenUni | http://www.thallos.net/draenei1.jpg <-- reason #1 why draenei should have been horde |
| 20:42.46 | Azurewrath | just ask if not.. i happen to be german ;) |
| 20:42.55 | RaydenUni | i know a little german, but not enough i bet |
| 20:43.35 | ckknight | Elkano: how to reproduce? |
| 20:43.50 | RaydenUni | NeoTron one thing i don't like is how all your different informative bars are spread out |
| 20:43.52 | deltron | RaydenUni: omg that flex is like my male troll flex |
| 20:43.56 | RaydenUni | so your eyes have to move across the whole screen |
| 20:44.02 | RaydenUni | flex? |
| 20:44.08 | RaydenUni | oh the pic |
| 20:44.11 | RaydenUni | yeah it is |
| 20:44.15 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: like which ones? |
| 20:44.28 | RaydenUni | all the "cooldown" bars across the top |
| 20:44.28 | kergoth | http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/currentui-20070718.jpg.html any ideas to improve the layout? need the unitframes near the center cause my peripheral vision is all blurry |
| 20:44.59 | Lyfe | RaydenUni: well, we all know that it was an attempt to give the alliance side a not-quite-human looking character, and the horde side a 'pretty' character ;) |
| 20:45.03 | RaydenUni | trh isn't that comic in english? |
| 20:45.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:45.07 | NeoTron | mob respawn ones and the SS one? |
| 20:45.15 | trh | RaydenUni: no, german =) |
| 20:45.19 | RaydenUni | draenei are pretty |
| 20:45.21 | NeoTron | if so I don't use those in combat.. in reality they could just be hidden during combat |
| 20:45.23 | sag_ich_nicht | - Special thanks to Kenco for all his work in testing and reverse engineering the threat mechanics that we're so familiar with today. |
| 20:45.25 | trh | RaydenUni: don't know if there's a english translation |
| 20:45.27 | RaydenUni | and BE are sort of ugly so i guess they failed |
| 20:45.35 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 20:45.37 | trh | RaydenUni: for some episodes there are, but i dont know if for that one |
| 20:45.37 | RaydenUni | i'm sure i've read that in english before |
| 20:45.41 | NeoTron | but they are just thrown off to the side as to not be in the way |
| 20:45.51 | sag_ich_nicht | andyour not even lying Antiarc :O |
| 20:45.53 | trh | RaydenUni: yeah, but it's origin is germany.. there were some translations a while ago |
| 20:46.02 | NeoTron | I do wish I could make recount BG translucent though |
| 20:46.04 | ckknight | Elkano: alright, that should fix it v--- |
| 20:46.04 | sag_ich_nicht | *you're |
| 20:46.06 | Lyfe | RaydenUni: will you settle for "mainstream" and non-mainstream appearances for the differences then? :) |
| 20:46.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44252 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - fix typo |
| 20:46.42 | RaydenUni | sure |
| 20:46.44 | RaydenUni | so the comic |
| 20:46.46 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: I do credit him for doing a lot of groundbreaking. |
| 20:47.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i know :) |
| 20:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | brb |
| 20:47.07 | RaydenUni | the two humans hear something, they go to save the BE and the draenei speaks intellgently and explains he crash landed. then i lose it |
| 20:47.26 | trh | RaydenUni: then the draenei says they have to decide for whom they are |
| 20:47.34 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: basically my UI had ended up being like a stock show on CNN |
| 20:47.34 | trh | RaydenUni: next picture they ask to join the horde =) |
| 20:47.44 | NeoTron | I had no space to actually.. see anything except bars and crap all over |
| 20:47.46 | RaydenUni | because they think the BE is hot? |
| 20:47.54 | RaydenUni | lol NeoTron |
| 20:47.59 | RaydenUni | my old one was much worse |
| 20:48.02 | trh | RaydenUni: yep, but it isn't said explicitly |
| 20:48.04 | RaydenUni | this new one feels very uncluttered |
| 20:48.09 | Lyfe | haha. |
| 20:48.10 | RaydenUni | well obviously for humor |
| 20:48.19 | NeoTron | it's a lot better |
| 20:48.28 | NeoTron | even in the raid it's pretty open |
| 20:48.30 | trh | RaydenUni: only suggested by the lip painting stuff =) |
| 20:48.49 | NeoTron | making my actionbars shorter helped a lot |
| 20:49.07 | NeoTron | I only ever used 1-6 via keyboard anyway so the rest was wasted |
| 20:49.54 | RaydenUni | 6 does seem about as far as one would want to click |
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| 20:50.41 | vithos | ~seen Bhattu |
| 20:51.04 | purl | bhattu <n=Dean@18-20-64.66.res.logixcom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 274d 4h 58m 41s ago, saying: 'However, the easiest way and Blizzard's way are probably not identical.'. |
| 20:51.04 | RaydenUni | you guys remember the blizzard april 1st announcement about 2 headed ogres? |
| 20:51.04 | Gngsk | yes |
| 20:51.06 | trh | that was so awesome |
| 20:51.10 | Gngsk | I was so psyched |
| 20:51.11 | RaydenUni | i really wished they had added it |
| 20:51.15 | Gngsk | my brother and I were gonna play one |
| 20:51.15 | trh | me too =) |
| 20:51.27 | trh | would have played one with my flatmate |
| 20:51.33 | trh | warlock + hunter = awesome team i guess ;) |
| 20:51.43 | yacoob | get real, why would they bother with such complexity, what are they out there for, to please the fans or to make the money? 8) |
| 20:52.02 | sag_ich_nicht | you forgot that, according to the announcment, you'd get asigned a random partner |
| 20:52.08 | RaydenUni | yeah that part sucks |
| 20:52.12 | RaydenUni | change that |
| 20:52.18 | NeoTron | omg |
| 20:52.32 | NeoTron | so on gruul the OT died towards the end - usually healing right? |
| 20:52.44 | NeoTron | but no, he decided to go to zerker stance to execute some.. |
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| 20:52.55 | NeoTron | 18011 Hurtful Strike |
| 20:52.57 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 20:53.04 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 20:53.10 | KarlThePagan | busted |
| 20:53.13 | NeoTron | I mean who would possibly have thought that was a good idea? |
| 20:53.25 | KarlThePagan | a pvp warrior |
| 20:53.48 | NeoTron | he's the main OT for the guild, prot specced |
| 20:53.57 | RaydenUni | wait, the boss did that or a warrior? |
| 20:54.03 | KarlThePagan | this is a pvp warrior - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/flipflopparts/vatoyay.jpg |
| 20:54.14 | NeoTron | he went to berseker strike and gruul hit him for 18k |
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| 20:54.24 | jme | so last night we were killing moroes, and i got the garrote like halfway through the fight.. it lasted to the end |
| 20:54.31 | Lyfe | nice job. :) |
| 20:54.37 | jme | after the fight was over everyone was standing there ressing a few people that died and talking on TS |
| 20:54.41 | jme | like a minute later i fall over dead |
| 20:54.52 | trh | jme: just get naked and tell them to let you die =) |
| 20:54.57 | jme | trh: lol |
| 20:55.03 | trh | that's what we do |
| 20:55.08 | Elkano | btw: ck, is sth like TinyTip's intelligent frame anchor planned for CowTip? |
| 20:55.12 | trh | alot faster then waiting until it ticks out |
| 20:55.24 | jme | it was pretty funny because nobody noticed i still had the debuff and i died anyway |
| 20:55.37 | RaydenUni | it's not like the debuff cares if you know its there |
| 20:56.00 | trh | yea.. and once you got some equipment the damage isn't too bad |
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| 20:56.10 | jme | well |
| 20:56.18 | Mudkips | How can I go about changing the WoW font (not chatboxes)? |
| 20:56.20 | jme | rather than noticing i still had the debuff nobody noticed i was still dropping hp |
| 20:56.26 | RaydenUni | clearfont? |
| 20:56.27 | trh | Mudkips: try clearfont2 |
| 20:56.38 | Kirkburn|afk | <3 you |
| 20:56.38 | trh | jme: /slap healers :P |
| 20:56.43 | Mudkips | ok thanks |
| 20:56.47 | jme | trh: yeah :P |
| 20:56.54 | jme | trh: on ts "oh crap dude, sorry about that" |
| 20:57.02 | jme | everyone laughs |
| 20:57.15 | trh | jme: hehe yeah.. can happen |
| 20:57.18 | RaydenUni | worst thing to hear in a dungeon "um, why am i in combat?" |
| 20:57.33 | NeoTron | We had some nice times in SSC when on hydross the nature tank takes damage a lot and dies |
| 20:57.41 | kergoth | okay, should i level my l20 ghost saber on my hunter, or give up and just use a ravager? |
| 20:57.42 | NeoTron | and it turns out she didn't put on her resist gear |
| 20:57.44 | trh | RaydenUni: hehe.. it's not too bad if it comes from a hunter and no one else is yet ;) |
| 20:57.54 | NeoTron | another time, she tanked with her fishing pole as she forgot to switch |
| 20:58.03 | kergoth | lol |
| 20:58.04 | Lyfe | heh. the worst thing for a healer is to heal someone who just did an action that put them into combat (even though there's no mob) when you want to drink :P |
| 20:58.07 | NeoTron | and of course the typical tanking after hydross but still in resist gear |
| 20:58.12 | NeoTron | she's a druid so she didn't notice |
| 20:58.20 | KarlThePagan | RaydenUni, we had a moment like that... right before a boss |
| 20:58.27 | KarlThePagan | turned out it was someone's Furious Mr. Pinchy |
| 20:58.34 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_071007_230752.jpg <-- relevant picture |
| 20:58.43 | vithos | kergoth: that's a lot more pet leveling than i could take |
| 20:58.51 | vithos | kergoth: i'm struggling to get a 59 scorpid to 70 |
| 20:58.51 | kergoth | quite :( |
| 20:59.06 | kergoth | i've got my boar from l32 to l54 so far.. its slow going |
| 20:59.16 | KarlThePagan | <3 ghost saber |
| 20:59.23 | KarlThePagan | but I'm leveling my hunter so it's not so bad |
| 20:59.27 | Kirkburn|afk | lol, Gnomeregan! |
| 20:59.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Never done a full run of there |
| 20:59.36 | RaydenUni | every damned mob respawned |
| 20:59.42 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, how does leveling up extremely low lv pets work? |
| 20:59.48 | KarlThePagan | they don't get experience from grey mobs do they? |
| 20:59.49 | RaydenUni | we wiped a couple times then got a 70 mages to run us through |
| 20:59.52 | kergoth | you have to kill mobs you'd get experience from, afaik |
| 20:59.58 | RaydenUni | we reset the instance so we could kill the bosses :D |
| 21:00.01 | KarlThePagan | yea... so green+ |
| 21:00.03 | kergoth | i just drag him along on 5 mans, gets a few levels per run |
| 21:00.08 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 21:00.27 | RaydenUni | he gets xp based on your level right? |
| 21:00.31 | RaydenUni | they should change it to his level |
| 21:00.41 | RaydenUni | except without all the xp stealing from mixing a high level and low level |
| 21:00.48 | kergoth | yea, so he cant tank the mobs he levels from, its annoying |
| 21:01.14 | RaydenUni | they should get a ton of xp from much higer mobs |
| 21:01.16 | vithos | they should just nerf pet xp bars |
| 21:01.33 | RaydenUni | or make them always tame at 10 levels below you |
| 21:01.44 | RaydenUni | or have some short quest to do that |
| 21:02.30 | jme | i need to get a turtle for offtanking kara when we don't have an OT |
| 21:02.30 | vithos | i have a feeling by the time i've got a scorpid, they'll nerf the perma-buff-till-falloff |
| 21:03.37 | Codayus | vithos: Maybe, but it's solidly in line with a lot of other mechanics. I don't expect a nerf. |
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| 21:04.38 | Rhaene | Anyone know where I would hook in order to add something to the right click menu of party member portrait? |
| 21:04.38 | vithos | Codayus: oh cool, i didn't know other stuff worked the same way. i hope you're right |
| 21:04.51 | jme | 2:00-4:00 is like the longest two hours at work ever |
| 21:05.15 | Mudkips | Amen |
| 21:05.37 | Codayus | vithos: The general rule is, the damage of dots, hots, etc. is based on *your* stats when you cast it, and the *mobs* stats as it ticks. Hence, Lifebloom, Renew, SW:P, VT, etc., all are buffed for the full duration if cast while a trinket is up. |
| 21:06.13 | Rhaene | and popping trinket after casting is useles |
| 21:06.15 | Rhaene | useless* |
| 21:06.22 | Codayus | Lifebloom, in particular, stacks up to 3 and you can keep a trinketed stack rolling forever. |
| 21:06.25 | Rhaene | anyone know where I'd hook for that? |
| 21:06.37 | vithos | ah cool. |
| 21:06.40 | abyssichate | Is anyone else getting something like this: [2007/07/19 22:50:20-1458-x222]: Parrot-r44241\CombatEvents.lua:952: attempt to index global 't' (a nil value) ? |
| 21:08.28 | jme | abyssichate: poke ckknight |
| 21:09.29 | Elkano | abyssichate, try updating, maybe fixed ^^ |
| 21:09.40 | jme | is it me, or are the quests in trisfal so freaking far apart |
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| 21:14.57 | Mudkips | Does clearfont2 apply to ebb and aguf? |
| 21:15.11 | Kirkburn|afk | agUF has it's own options |
| 21:15.14 | vithos | ebb lets you set fonts |
| 21:16.59 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6419.msg122558#msg122558 <-- boggled |
| 21:17.08 | sb | yep abyssichate - and no, not fixed |
| 21:17.56 | mitch0 | cryrect: I've tried the party member thing with DogTag, and it seems to work... |
| 21:18.45 | mitch0 | kergoth: you were the hunter with the occasional 41+ range display, right? |
| 21:20.21 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44253 10Relog/ (DataStructures.txt Relog.lua Relog.toc abbrev.lua parse.lua): Relog - Setups some of the initial basic files |
| 21:21.17 | Cryect | mitch0: k, I will try to find a repeatable case for it |
| 21:22.32 | RaydenUni | very newb question |
| 21:22.43 | RaydenUni | does the same dot from 2 different players stack on one target? |
| 21:22.50 | RaydenUni | so would SWP from two priests stack? |
| 21:22.54 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 21:22.56 | mitch0 | cryect: do you use pitbull? |
| 21:23.09 | RaydenUni | i use pitbull |
| 21:23.49 | mitch0 | rayden: and do you also have problems with rangecheck? :) |
| 21:23.58 | RaydenUni | i don't know |
| 21:24.05 | mitch0 | probably not |
| 21:24.07 | RaydenUni | i can't say that i've really paid attention to range check with it |
| 21:24.18 | RaydenUni | where it fades if the target is out of rane? |
| 21:24.20 | RaydenUni | range |
| 21:24.22 | mitch0 | not that one |
| 21:24.25 | mitch0 | nevermind |
| 21:24.29 | RaydenUni | i ahve noticed that it's not great at detecting aggro |
| 21:24.32 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc 07KTMSupportFixes * r44254 10Threat-1.0/: Threat-1.0: Branching for breaking-likely changes to KTM support |
| 21:25.02 | RaydenUni | i was running through arathi last night and my HUD started displaying my energy tick and i was confused, i looked around and saw a spider following me and THEN pitbull changed my frame to red |
| 21:25.21 | Diao | pitbull only detects agro on your current target |
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| 21:25.32 | RaydenUni | what's the point of that? |
| 21:25.37 | Diao | for raiders |
| 21:25.37 | mitch0 | cryrect: what's your char's name/realm? (I'd like to check your talents) |
| 21:25.42 | Diao | obv |
| 21:25.45 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc 07KTMSupportFixes * r44255 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files): Threat-1.0: Added :GetCumulativeThreat(), switched KTM publishing to use Threat methods rather than internal calculations, will be necessary for proper handling of threat resets. |
| 21:25.46 | RaydenUni | if i'm running around in BG i want to know if some random mage has me targeted |
| 21:25.47 | kergoth | mitch0: yep |
| 21:26.07 | Diao | i don't think that's possible without actually targetting everything around you |
| 21:26.26 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work what u want to do ? add an optional file that handles Ktm sync that can be toggled on/off instead of staying in core? |
| 21:26.42 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: It's already like that |
| 21:26.52 | mitch0 | kergoth: can you check your tooltips now for "Throw", "Auto Shot", "Scatter Shot" and "Wing Clip"? I'd need the ranges |
| 21:26.52 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just branching because I expect I might break something with these changes |
| 21:26.58 | Antiarc|Work | And I need to test it before it goes into the trunk |
| 21:27.32 | Silviu- | Hmm :) |
| 21:27.49 | Silviu- | ThreatKLHTMSupport |
| 21:27.53 | kergoth | wing clip: melee, auto shot: 8-41yd, scatter shot: 21yd, throw: 8-30yd |
| 21:28.01 | Silviu- | Hmm i should check my files before i say something |
| 21:28.03 | Silviu- | sorry |
| 21:28.04 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 21:28.17 | Antiarc|Work | Hehe |
| 21:28.18 | mitch0 | sounds OK :( |
| 21:28.25 | mitch0 | kergoth: and what range gets whacky? |
| 21:28.58 | mitch0 | should be 0-5-9-10-21-28-30-41 |
| 21:29.16 | mitch0 | where does it break |
| 21:29.18 | mitch0 | ? |
| 21:29.29 | snurre | how's Threat-1.0 coming along nowadays btw? (havent logged in or touched addons for like 4 weeks) |
| 21:29.36 | kergoth | i'll see if i can isolate it |
| 21:29.38 | Antiarc|Work | It's coming along very nicely |
| 21:30.21 | Cryect | mitch0: Stormreaver, Ludith |
| 21:30.22 | snurre | managed to shut Kenco up yet? :p |
| 21:30.34 | mitch0 | I hope blizz didn't fiddle with interact distances... |
| 21:30.43 | Cryect | mitch0: It was working fine with RangeDisplay though so not sure what was going on |
| 21:31.00 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: your not using the inspect distance are you? |
| 21:31.06 | mitch0 | I do |
| 21:31.08 | Antiarc|Work | He's still chugging along :P |
| 21:31.15 | Arrowmaster | inspect is 28 yards |
| 21:31.25 | mitch0 | no |
| 21:31.39 | mitch0 | at least, not on my server :) |
| 21:31.44 | Arrowmaster | i tested, 1 and 4 on CheckInteractDistance or whatever it is are exactly the same |
| 21:31.57 | Mudkips | Is the only way to move casting frames in Quartz through the x/y coords? |
| 21:32.20 | mitch0 | arrow: on what targets? (not that it should make any difference, but still) |
| 21:32.41 | Arrowmaster | was using an npc |
| 21:33.12 | Arrowmaster | a skyguard guard |
| 21:34.22 | mitch0 | I'm using index 3 (9yd), 2 (10 yd) and 4 (28 yd) |
| 21:34.39 | mitch0 | but it's very well possible they changed some of those |
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| 21:35.56 | charon | Antiarc: ping |
| 21:38.24 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 21:39.11 | NeoTron | ping |
| 21:39.25 | kergoth | is Cower at all useful for a pet, or never worth training? |
| 21:39.38 | Arrowmaster | not for soloing |
| 21:39.45 | Coruss | it's only really useful in raiding to lower pet aggro |
| 21:39.45 | Arrowmaster | maybe for grouping but i doubt it |
| 21:40.02 | Coruss | but pet's aggro never really becomes a problem, so not really worth it |
| 21:40.46 | Arrowmaster | anybody know the resistance forumluas well? |
| 21:41.09 | Arrowmaster | trying to figure out what the max effeictive resisteance level is vs a lvl 73 |
| 21:41.43 | NeoTron | 365 |
| 21:41.46 | mitch0 | kergoth: you're on enUS client, too? |
| 21:41.52 | Arrowmaster | i think its 365 but a guildie is telling me that the ingame tooltip doesnt switch to excellent till 375 |
| 21:42.04 | NeoTron | 5 * level |
| 21:42.15 | NeoTron | unless they changed it |
| 21:42.21 | Cryect | I doubt they changed it |
| 21:42.43 | Cryect | I can tell you more about the resistence formula than you prolly want ot know |
| 21:42.45 | NeoTron | 5 * player level + 5*(mob level - player level) |
| 21:42.47 | NeoTron | I'm guessing |
| 21:42.58 | NeoTron | a least at level 70.. :) |
| 21:43.03 | Cryect | well its just 5*mob level :-p |
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| 21:43.19 | NeoTron | err yeah that is what it ends up at isn't it |
| 21:43.29 | Cryect | no reason to add the + player level -player level :-p |
| 21:43.29 | NeoTron | heh |
| 21:43.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah just compare it to the mob level your going agaisnt and not your own level |
| 21:43.33 | NeoTron | right |
| 21:43.58 | Cryect | The only magic number worth knowing about with Resists is 250 |
| 21:43.58 | NeoTron | I never actually written it down before - pretty obvious when you look at it |
| 21:44.05 | Cryect | once you are over 250 for a lvl 73 mob |
| 21:44.21 | Cryect | you can't have any hits be not partially resisted |
| 21:45.01 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | I have 1944 errors in bugsack O.o |
| 21:45.04 | Cryect | 68.3% is the magic point in percentage of max resist for reference |
| 21:45.22 | kergoth | mitch0: yes, enUS, and it's between 9-10 and 10-21, somehow. |
| 21:45.30 | kergoth | shows 41+ |
| 21:45.40 | NeoTron | Cryect: you can always have hits that aren't at all resisted |
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| 21:45.55 | CIA-22 | 03duerma * r44258 10RPHelper2/English/ (19 files): RPHelper2: First upload of English sayings files (minus Priest, Rogue, Mage, and Warrior) |
| 21:45.57 | Cryect | NeoTron: Nah you can't, find me a case |
| 21:45.57 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:45.58 | NeoTron | at least from waht I've seen on hydross |
| 21:46.06 | mitch0 | kergoth: bloody strange |
| 21:46.13 | Cryect | NeoTron: that means they change dit again |
| 21:46.25 | Cryect | NeoTron: but thats why hydross was possible to be tanked at 250% |
| 21:46.28 | kergoth | hunters have that dead zone right? what range is that? |
| 21:46.37 | Cryect | because there was no failed resist checks |
| 21:46.44 | mitch0 | could it be that hawk eye increases the minimum range as well somehow? just not showing on tooltip? |
| 21:46.57 | Cryect | They could have very well changed it when they added 500% mark aas well |
| 21:47.36 | CIA-22 | 03duerma * r44259 10RPHelper2/Deutsch/ (21 files): RPHelper2: First upload of German sayings files (minus Undead) |
| 21:47.50 | Esteth | anyone know if there's a legend for the icons on the forum about? |
| 21:48.14 | NeoTron | Cryect: I might be incorrect |
| 21:48.56 | Saroz | Anyone using Parrot?` |
| 21:49.00 | mitch0 | kergoth: according to tooltip, it's 8yd (deadzone) but in reality it's about 9.5 yd |
| 21:49.07 | Esteth | Saroz: me |
| 21:49.10 | Saroz | is it good? |
| 21:49.11 | NeoTron | yeah looks like I am |
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| 21:49.37 | mitch0 | but jumping around screws the distances, too... |
| 21:49.48 | Esteth | saroz: I like it, but i think i prefer MSBT to it. giving it a few more days to see though. It's certainly more customizable in the text than MSBT was. |
| 21:49.51 | Cryect | NeoTron: Here's a big long thread on resists http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t10712-resisting_magical_damage_its_relation_resistance_levels/ though I kinda recommend cut to the end after the first post since better data is there (unless you want to read arguments on what type of curve fits the data) |
| 21:49.56 | Fisker- | Did Blizzard make premades on the US PTR? |
| 21:49.56 | mitch0 | if you jump up, you get closer to your target... |
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| 21:51.22 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44260 10PartyToGo/Core.lua: |
| 21:51.22 | CIA-22 | PartyToGo: |
| 21:51.22 | CIA-22 | -Remove non-existent localization |
| 21:51.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:52.23 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 21:52.37 | sag_ich_nicht | there is a bug in SCT, if you spam the test button |
| 21:53.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it reverses the direction of everything |
| 21:54.48 | ulic | I installed Parrot, I like it well enough, seems pretty straight forward, it's nice you can create your own scroll boxes and just put whatever data you want in them. |
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| 21:56.16 | Coruss | Fisker-: I don't think so, I haven't been on the PTR in a long time (since naxx), but iirc you could only copy existing characters |
| 21:56.57 | mitch0 | kergoth: what class are you? |
| 21:56.59 | Coruss | they don't want people who just got started to be running around with 70s and doing endgame on PTRs that they can't do on live |
| 21:57.08 | mitch0 | s/class/race/ |
| 21:57.28 | ulic | You can copy pre-mades, I just logged in to the web, I have 4 pre-made copies remaining. |
| 21:57.39 | Mudkips | Change font for ag unitframes hidden somewhere? I can't find it at all |
| 21:57.59 | Coruss | ulic: then it's changed since I was last on them, glad to see there are premades |
| 21:58.01 | Arrowmaster | if kergoth is a tauren it would make sense, taurens have an increased range on attacks |
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| 21:58.17 | ulic | premade == Level 70 of any class/faction |
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| 21:58.47 | mitch0 | arrow: is it some racial skill or just a "side effect" of the character modell? |
| 21:58.54 | Arrowmaster | side effect |
| 21:58.55 | Trisorion | ckknight I killed my pitbull |
| 21:59.00 | mitch0 | grmph |
| 21:59.36 | kergoth | not tauren, orc |
| 21:59.45 | Trisorion | is ckknight here? |
| 21:59.58 | mitch0 | ok, I'll create an orc hunter then. see what happens |
| 22:00.31 | ccKep | woot, best raid day since weeks ^.^ |
| 22:01.17 | mitch0 | kergoth: male or female? wan't to replicate the situation as far as I can... |
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| 22:02.48 | kergoth | male |
| 22:02.50 | mitch0 | no probs with female orc |
| 22:02.56 | mitch0 | creating male now |
| 22:02.57 | mitch0 | :) |
| 22:03.05 | kergoth | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Suramar&n=Archet is the char |
| 22:03.09 | kergoth | kk |
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| 22:04.03 | Arrowmaster | i have a male orc hunter and didnt see any issues with rangecheck last time i played him, but i dont have the hawkeye talent |
| 22:04.15 | mitch0 | funny how "Hrmp" is not taken (as a character name :) |
| 22:04.27 | Trisorion | If a mob's 3d model and 2d portrait are reversed (the oposite one shows) is that an error in the game or the addon? |
| 22:04.58 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no, SCT is moving the the initial point down as you spam it |
| 22:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | strange |
| 22:05.09 | sag_ich_nicht | addon Trisorion |
| 22:05.45 | Arrowmaster | grr i wish theyd fix the armory so the damn item tooltips would show up in seamonkey |
| 22:06.20 | mitch0 | no problems here with male orc either... can't have the hawk eye talent though |
| 22:06.32 | mitch0 | will check ptr later if I can create a premade 70 hunter |
| 22:08.43 | NightHawkAtWork | hmm |
| 22:08.45 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44261 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: |
| 22:08.45 | CIA-22 | Quixote: |
| 22:08.45 | CIA-22 | -Patch up a surprising number of memory leaks in comm code. |
| 22:08.45 | CIA-22 | -:GetPartyQuestStatus now returns numGot, numNeeded. |
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| 22:11.32 | Thrae | Does YOUR Harem Anime have all 12 S's? Sweet, Sporty, Sassy, Sexy, Shy, Silly, Studious, Serious, Sensei, Spooky, Strange, Spiritual, Sisterly, Short-But-Not-Underage? |
| 22:13.13 | Shirik | hm |
| 22:13.17 | Shirik | sporty? |
| 22:13.42 | sag_ich_nicht | GOD DAMN IT |
| 22:13.43 | Fin | Shirik: reckon you might have to send back your Stephen also |
| 22:13.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i just configured SCT for 30 minutes |
| 22:13.54 | Shirik | I think I'm missing that one :( |
| 22:13.54 | Shirik | yumeria's got that though |
| 22:13.57 | sag_ich_nicht | then WoW crashes just as i want to /reloadui to save it |
| 22:14.09 | Fin | I fell your pain, sag |
| 22:14.10 | sag_ich_nicht | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 22:14.13 | Esteth | sag_ich_night: =( |
| 22:14.19 | sag_ich_nicht | out of memory my ass |
| 22:14.35 | sag_ich_nicht | RAM Usage: 872/2048MB (42.58%)Â [||||------] |
| 22:14.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Virtual Memory: 110/2048MB. |
| 22:14.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Swap File: 879/4964MB. |
| 22:14.53 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, now that WoW's crashed |
| 22:14.56 | Shirik | naturally if you were out of memory |
| 22:15.11 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW never uses over 700 MB RAM for me |
| 22:15.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 22:15.16 | sag_ich_nicht | 900+700=? |
| 22:15.19 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 22:15.19 | Fin | I had an odd error earlier, after a crash a SavedVariable file was apparently 870MB |
| 22:15.21 | sag_ich_nicht | swap file |
| 22:15.26 | Shirik | it does when it tries to allocate it |
| 22:15.35 | Shirik | you can't cross pages like that |
| 22:15.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it shouldn't crash. |
| 22:15.48 | Shirik | if it wants to allocate one block of memory |
| 22:15.52 | sag_ich_nicht | bad coder, no cookie. |
| 22:15.54 | Shirik | it should if there's a bug |
| 22:16.01 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 22:16.10 | Shirik | that's actually how one bug in RDX works |
| 22:16.20 | Shirik | it tries to allocate about a 1GB block of memory |
| 22:16.32 | Shirik | (don't worry, you didn't encounter it :P you have to do it intentionally) |
| 22:16.39 | mitch0 | kergoth: still around? |
| 22:17.08 | Fin | OK, are there any FuBar experts around Mikk? |
| 22:17.21 | Fin | I mean, any FuBar experts around? |
| 22:17.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:17.48 | mitch0 | kergoth: if you would like to help me a bit, find the line in RangeCheck-1.0.lua that reads "local InteractMinRangeCheckIndex = 2" and change that 2 to 4, see if you still get the whacky ranges near 10yd |
| 22:17.54 | Shirik | how do you define a fubar "expert" |
| 22:18.12 | Kemayo | Fin: I have written fubar plugins, and could possibly answer rudimentary questions. Begin. |
| 22:18.14 | Fin | Shirik: anyone who can solve this problem with Prat |
| 22:18.23 | Shirik | how do you define "problem" |
| 22:18.32 | Shirik | and wouldn't that be a prat expert? |
| 22:18.33 | Arrowmaster | the one where you cant move the icon? |
| 22:18.36 | Shirik | =P |
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| 22:18.45 | Fin | for some reason, FuBar is not getting registered as a plugin with Prat |
| 22:19.06 | Shirik | er |
| 22:19.20 | Shirik | you mean prat isn't getting registered with fubar? |
| 22:19.28 | Fin | it's not counted as a FuBar plugin - FuBar:GetNumPlugins() returns the number of plugins without Prat, and Prat isn't affected when you do stuff like change font sizes etc. |
| 22:19.34 | Arrowmaster | blame sylvanaar |
| 22:19.45 | Fin | I've stripped down PratFu to pretty much nothing, and it's still happening |
| 22:20.08 | Arrowmaster | Fin: add FuBar to the Prat.toc as an optdep |
| 22:20.16 | Fin | I've removed all the options, just left it with functions for :OnTooltipUpdate, :OnTextUpdate, and :OnClick |
| 22:20.37 | Fin | Arrowmaster: I hope that's it, thanks - I'll try it |
| 22:20.49 | Fin | and, if that is the case, I *will* blame syl :) |
| 22:21.01 | Fin | clever little bastard playing around with loading dependencies and stuff |
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| 22:21.46 | Fin | Arrowmaster: why does it have to be an OptDep? it's in X-Embeds |
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| 22:22.12 | Shirik | WoW doesn't recognize that |
| 22:22.25 | Fin | Arrowmaster: and do I want FuBar, or FuBarPlugin? |
| 22:22.30 | Kemayo | FuBar. |
| 22:22.32 | Arrowmaster | because afaik fubar needs to be loaded before anything uses fubarplugin |
| 22:22.37 | Fin | WoW's not causing the problem, FuBar's loaded fine as far as I can tell? |
| 22:22.40 | Arrowmaster | if your going to use fubar |
| 22:22.54 | Arrowmaster | yes but fubar needs to be loaded first |
| 22:22.59 | Shirik | Fin: Because WoW is loading prat too early |
| 22:23.04 | charon | anyone know how to get rid of elkbuffbar wobbliness? i've configured height and font size such that it should break long buff names across two lines, but now with a lot of buffs it changes the line breaks as the timer ticks and its width changes a pixel or two |
| 22:23.47 | Shirik | that's the purpose of "optional dependencies." If you think about it, it doesn't really make much sense ("optional required things?") |
| 22:23.48 | Fin | Shirik: OK, but how come this line works: |
| 22:23.49 | Fin | if not AceLibrary:HasInstance("FuBarPlugin-2.0") then return end |
| 22:23.59 | Shirik | but the purpose is to provide WoW with a hint of what might be needed in certain cases |
| 22:24.03 | Arrowmaster | because fubarplugin doesnt need fubar |
| 22:24.06 | Fin | I mean, how comes it doesn't return false? |
| 22:24.11 | Arrowmaster | but it gets fucked up if its loaded before fubar |
| 22:24.18 | Fin | ahhh |
| 22:24.21 | Fin | so that is the problem, OK |
| 22:24.30 | TecnoBrat | big question |
| 22:24.31 | TecnoBrat | did it work? |
| 22:24.34 | sylvanaar | Shirik um |
| 22:24.39 | Arrowmaster | you have to either load fubar then fubarplugin, or load fubarplugin and not load fubar |
| 22:24.42 | sylvanaar | hold the phone |
| 22:25.05 | Fin | thank you very much for this |
| 22:25.11 | Fin | I've spent about 2 and a half hours trying to figure it out |
| 22:25.12 | TecnoBrat | Fin, did it work? |
| 22:25.28 | Fin | TecnoBrat: calm thyself! |
| 22:25.51 | Fin | first I must do the dance of the lua moon goddess |
| 22:25.51 | TecnoBrat | lol so you are thanking them before you know that solved it? :P |
| 22:25.53 | charon | disregard my question, i'm just going to shorten all names manually, will look much nicer anyway |
| 22:26.02 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:26.05 | Fin | TecnoBrat: yes... is that a problem? |
| 22:27.33 | Shirik | no, in fact the opposite |
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| 22:27.38 | Fin | OMmmmmmaommaomma |
| 22:27.41 | Shirik | you should just thank me because you know I'll help you in the future at some point |
| 22:27.43 | Arrowmaster | too bad theres no way to have fubarplugin force fubar to load first when embeded, although i just looked at the fubarplugin toc and it could use Ace2 and FuBar added to the optdeps for when standalone |
| 22:27.44 | Fin | OMmmmaommaomma |
| 22:28.12 | Benumbed | is there a plugin for grid, that can set left click/right click etc? |
| 22:28.19 | Benumbed | and only work on grid, not all unitframes? |
| 22:28.22 | Shirik | =P |
| 22:28.23 | Shirik | and Arrowmaster |
| 22:28.23 | Shirik | since he actually came up with the answer, I just explained it :P |
| 22:28.25 | Fin | yes, it worked |
| 22:28.32 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: If your addon uses FuBarPlugin, it should have FuBarPlugin in the OptDeps of that Addon's TOC. |
| 22:28.43 | Thrae | Errr, FuBar that ias |
| 22:28.53 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: yes but lots of people keep forgetting that |
| 22:28.58 | Fin | thank you, oh lua, moon goddess of the skies above! we praise the messengers you have sent to solve our current irritations |
| 22:29.06 | Mecdemort | how would you guys represent a frame's point in waterfall? |
| 22:29.11 | sylvanaar | FuBarPlugin = AceLibrary:HasInstance("FuBarPlugin", false) and AceLibrary("FuBarPlugin-2.0") |
| 22:29.31 | sylvanaar | and register for ADDON_LOADED |
| 22:29.33 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: How far do we have to go accomodate bad coding? :D |
| 22:29.35 | Fin | still, I got to learn a lot about FuBar from that |
| 22:29.36 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: still needs FuBar as optdep |
| 22:29.40 | sylvanaar | NO |
| 22:29.45 | Fin | Arrowmaster: 'fraid so |
| 22:29.47 | mitch0 | mec: x, y, and a dropdown for anchor type? (center, topleft, etc) |
| 22:29.47 | Fin | errr |
| 22:29.50 | Fin | sylvanaar: 'fraid so |
| 22:29.53 | Fin | sylvanaar: it's fixed it |
| 22:30.07 | Shirik | again, FuBarPlugin != FuBar |
| 22:30.11 | sylvanaar | Its a hack |
| 22:30.16 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: YES, ANY ADDON THAT USES FUBARPLUGIN MUST HAVE FUBAR AS OPTDEP OR YOU BREAK FUBAR |
| 22:30.30 | Arrowmaster | its not a hack |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r44262 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldRaidBosses.en.lua: |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-22 | - Loot update. |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-22 | - Added Drop Rates to Doomwalker and Doom Lord Kazzak. |
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| 22:30.43 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r44263 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 22:30.43 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 22:30.43 | CIA-22 | - Loot update. |
| 22:30.43 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster no, that is old info |
| 22:30.45 | Shirik | RAWR |
| 22:30.46 | Arrowmaster | its a requirement for using fubarplugin |
| 22:31.00 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: if thats old info then why does it fix it? |
| 22:31.06 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44264 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: .toc update: added FuBar as an OptDep to work around bug where the Prat FuBar plugin fails to be properly registered if FuBarPlugin is loaded before FuBar |
| 22:31.08 | sylvanaar | because its a hack |
| 22:31.12 | Fin | Arrowmaster: it sort of *is* a hack really |
| 22:31.14 | Arrowmaster | its not a hack |
| 22:31.15 | sylvanaar | thats what hacks do |
| 22:31.20 | Arrowmaster | explain the proper way then |
| 22:31.22 | Fin | Arrowmaster: I mean, it shouldn't break like that |
| 22:31.28 | Shirik | why would you call it a hack? |
| 22:31.44 | Fin | because FuBarPlugin breaks if FuBar isn't loaded beforehand? |
| 22:31.44 | Shirik | it's being used exactly the way it was intended to be used |
| 22:31.44 | Shirik | OptDeps forces other addons to be loaded first |
| 22:31.45 | Shirik | if they exist |
| 22:31.59 | Fin | you can't say that's intended behaviour |
| 22:32.03 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 22:32.13 | Fin | why the hell isn't it documented then? :( |
| 22:32.45 | mitch0 | OptDeps pre-loading behaviour is documented somewhere |
| 22:32.47 | sylvanaar | Let me make this clear. Ace does not need OptDeps. |
| 22:33.08 | sylvanaar | Thier use, means that your code is incorrect |
| 22:33.08 | Arrowmaster | because when your addon that uses fubarplugin is loaded and fubar isnt found it will put the icon on the minimap, then if fubar loads anything thats loaded after will start being able to be placed on fubar instead of the minimap |
| 22:33.18 | sylvanaar | or mine in this case |
| 22:33.29 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: this has nothing to do with AceLibrary |
| 22:33.31 | Fin | mitch0: hum... the specific case of FuBarPlugin breaking if FuBar isn't loaded first, but still allowing FuBar plugins to show up on the FuBar, without any errors, is a bit weird, and not documented that I know of |
| 22:33.55 | mitch0 | that one I don't know about |
| 22:33.58 | mitch0 | :) |
| 22:34.02 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yes it does |
| 22:34.03 | Fin | you know why? |
| 22:34.06 | Fin | :) |
| 22:34.17 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: does not since AceLibrary CAN NOT LOAD FUBAR |
| 22:34.19 | mitch0 | I was talking about the OptDeps behaviour only |
| 22:34.25 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: ping |
| 22:34.45 | sylvanaar | i dont care, because we need FuBarPlugin loaded whether FuBar loads or not |
| 22:35.14 | TecnoBrat | isn't that what a Optional Dep is? |
| 22:35.15 | mitch0 | actually, fubarplugin could autoload fubar if possible from lua, couldn't it? |
| 22:35.21 | Arrowmaster | and fubarplugin needs fubar to be loaded first if its going to be loaded at all |
| 22:35.24 | TecnoBrat | if it exists load first |
| 22:35.24 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44265 10Prat/extras/PratFu.lua: Prat: PratFu: uhm. bits? changed so much trying to figure out what the problem was with the FuBar plugin going all "I'm not here nyah nyah can't see me" I've sort of lost track. Look! New icon! Shiny! |
| 22:35.28 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: not possible |
| 22:35.29 | TecnoBrat | if it doesnt exist, dont care |
| 22:35.47 | sylvanaar | we just need to register ADDON_LOADED, and respond then |
| 22:35.57 | Shirik | uh |
| 22:35.57 | mitch0 | arrow: why not? isn't this whole load-on-demand thing just for stuff like this? |
| 22:36.04 | Shirik | mitch0: Not really |
| 22:36.04 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: fubar isnt lod |
| 22:36.15 | Shirik | why would you lod something that can just be an opt dep |
| 22:36.20 | mitch0 | well, make fubar lod, and make fubarplugin demand it :) |
| 22:36.27 | TecnoBrat | why not just allow wow to handle the order it loads things in instead? |
| 22:36.35 | Arrowmaster | making fubar lod would break everything |
| 22:36.35 | Shirik | exactly |
| 22:36.39 | TecnoBrat | seems writing code to do that ... is .. redundant... |
| 22:36.41 | Shirik | use an opt dep and let wow figure it out |
| 22:36.57 | Shirik | that's quite literally what opt deps are for |
| 22:37.14 | mitch0 | well, the whole discussion started with ppl forgetting to OptDep Fubar if using FubarPlugin |
| 22:37.28 | Shirik | load on demand is intended for use ON DEMAND, not something that will happen every time during startup just so you can reorder things |
| 22:37.29 | Arrowmaster | when fubar was created lod stuff didnt exist, it was made just like titan in the fact that 'hey if your going to make a fubar plugin you need to optdep fubar' |
| 22:37.50 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184883989410.jpg |
| 22:37.51 | Fisker- | heh |
| 22:37.58 | sylvanaar | um no, Fin, look at servernames, and how it handles Glory-2.0 |
| 22:38.07 | sylvanaar | thats the correct way |
| 22:38.25 | Arrowmaster | thats the correct way for a library thats lod |
| 22:38.32 | Arrowmaster | not the correct way for a mod thats not lod |
| 22:38.47 | sylvanaar | which is what FuBarPlugin-2.0 is |
| 22:38.55 | Fin | sylvanaar: I assume you meant Fisker |
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| 22:39.59 | mitch0 | aaanyway, I'm off to sleep. nighty all |
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| 22:40.03 | Arrowmaster | so you want to make it so prat doesnt include fubarplugin anymore and only uses it if something else loads it? |
| 22:40.05 | Mecdemort | is it possible in waterfall to have a text with a dropdown like a validate, but also be able to enter new text? |
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| 22:40.30 | Fin | why doesn't FuBarPlugin just OptDep FuBar, then? |
| 22:40.46 | Arrowmaster | that would only work for disembeding |
| 22:40.55 | mitch0 | fin: it won't solve the problem if fubarplugin is embedded |
| 22:41.00 | mitch0 | doh |
| 22:41.01 | mitch0 | :) |
| 22:41.01 | Arrowmaster | with embeds it would still need to be optdeped in the mod using it |
| 22:41.10 | Shirik | I don't see the purpose of trying to drop opt dep |
| 22:41.20 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 22:41.21 | TecnoBrat | because that just ensures that Fubar loads before FubarPlugin .. but it doesnt make sure that Fubar is loaded before Prat |
| 22:41.22 | Shirik | if you wanted to do everything like this with lod, why would opt deps even exist? |
| 22:41.39 | Shirik | you're trying to make it lod, then write code that opt dep already does! |
| 22:41.43 | Fin | mitch0: the problem is only when the libs are unembedded |
| 22:41.59 | Arrowmaster | no the problem is also there when embeded |
| 22:42.24 | Shirik | unless you embed all of fubar |
| 22:42.26 | Arrowmaster | because youll still load fubarplugin before fubar |
| 22:42.27 | Shirik | btw, please don't do that |
| 22:42.27 | Fin | not with Prat, for some reason - I assume because it has FuBar loaded first |
| 22:42.56 | Shirik | here's a better question |
| 22:43.01 | Shirik | why doesnt fubarplugin opt dep fubar? |
| 22:43.09 | sylvanaar | There is no need for OptDeps..repeat, repeat, repeat |
| 22:43.16 | Arrowmaster | ill fix fubarplugin in a sec |
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| 22:43.21 | Shirik | sylvanaar: If you want to write extra code, sure |
| 22:43.27 | Shirik | you could most certainly do it with lod |
| 22:43.29 | Fin | the reason I'm suggesting having FuBarPlugin have FuBar as an OptDep is so that this weird behaviour doesn't happen? I can't understand why anybody would think this isn't a bug, but I don't care if technically it's defined as one; it's still shit and it would be nice to avoid it |
| 22:43.53 | Fin | +or not |
| 22:44.04 | Shirik | Fin: I do agree, I personally think fubarplugin should opt dep fubar, but that's a personal opinion |
| 22:44.09 | Shirik | there could be reasons against it |
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| 22:44.27 | sylvanaar | You do not use OptDeps because they cause things to be loaded for no reason |
| 22:44.38 | mitch1-zZ | still wouldn't solve the embedded fubarplugin case (without the embedding addon optdep-ping fubar) |
| 22:44.52 | Shirik | fubar will be loaded anyway |
| 22:44.54 | Arrowmaster | even if fubarplugin does optdep fubar then when using embeds you still need the addon to optdep fubar |
| 22:44.57 | Fin | Shirik: well, if it's buggy when FuBarPlugin *doesn't* OptDep FuBar... I'd like to know the reasons |
| 22:44.59 | Shirik | always |
| 22:44.59 | Shirik | if it exists |
| 22:45.05 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: FUBAR IS NOT LOAD ON DEMAND SO SHUT UP |
| 22:45.22 | Fin | mitch1-zZ: but, Prat never OptDep'd FuBar, and the problem didn't exist with embedded libs |
| 22:45.33 | mitch1-zZ | fin: it didn't exist for YOU |
| 22:45.38 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster that doesnt matter, OptDeping it will make PRAT loading cause it to load |
| 22:45.45 | Arrowmaster | no it wont |
| 22:45.49 | mitch1-zZ | addons are loaded in whatever order they are found by the OS |
| 22:45.50 | Shirik | only if you write extra code |
| 22:45.53 | Arrowmaster | if fubar is disabled it wont load it |
| 22:45.54 | Shirik | which opt deps already solve for you |
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| 22:45.59 | Thrae | Obviously, causing massive errors > +100KB memory usage |
| 22:46.00 | Arrowmaster | if fubar is enabled its going to fucking load anyway |
| 22:46.01 | Shirik | why are you trying to do extra work? |
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| 22:46.05 | mitch1-zZ | unless otherwise "requested" with deps/optdeps |
| 22:46.09 | sylvanaar | If i OptDep Fubar Blizzard will load it |
| 22:46.15 | Shirik | not if it's disabled |
| 22:46.29 | Shirik | if it's enabled, it will be loaded if you opt dep it yes |
| 22:46.31 | Shirik | but guess what |
| 22:46.32 | TecnoBrat | if its disabled, or doesnt exist, it wont load it. otherwise, its loaded anyways |
| 22:46.33 | Shirik | it'll be loaded anyway! |
| 22:46.36 | sylvanaar | if its disabled thats a totally different story |
| 22:46.38 | Shirik | it's just a matter of WHEN it gets loaded |
| 22:46.46 | TecnoBrat | Fubar is always loaded |
| 22:46.47 | sylvanaar | right |
| 22:46.50 | Shirik | so explain again what we're loading for no purpose? |
| 22:47.06 | TecnoBrat | we are loading the mod sooner, that will be loaded anyways |
| 22:47.08 | TecnoBrat | thats it |
| 22:47.18 | Shirik | 182:442:27 12‹sylvanaar12› You do not use OptDeps because they cause things to be loaded for no reason |
| 22:47.18 | sylvanaar | yes, thats very important |
| 22:47.20 | TecnoBrat | sooner, as in ... still before login |
| 22:47.42 | Fin | mitch1-zZ: is your argument that it might still exist for Prat, because it didn't exist for me? |
| 22:47.50 | Thrae | Give sylvanaar a break, English is not his native language. I think I understand what he's trying to say. |
| 22:47.50 | mitch1-zZ | yes |
| 22:47.53 | Fin | aw, fuck it, honestly I don't care if I'm wrong |
| 22:47.56 | Shirik | fubar will always be loaded (unless it's disabled), period. There is nothing that gets "loaded for no reason" |
| 22:48.07 | sylvanaar | Prat doesnt care when FuBar gets loaded - so, I dont want it to cause its loadin |
| 22:48.11 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r44266 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: |
| 22:48.11 | CIA-22 | LZProfiler: |
| 22:48.11 | CIA-22 | - SetInventoryItem and SetBagItem will only trigger if we are sure that there is an item to link. |
| 22:48.11 | CIA-22 | - Removing useless verification |
| 22:48.11 | CIA-22 | - Reagents should now be correctly saved |
| 22:48.18 | TecnoBrat | Thrae, then enlighten us |
| 22:48.22 | Shirik | prat does care, as has already been shown |
| 22:48.32 | mitch1-zZ | fin: for some users FuBar MIGHT be loaded after Prat even with embedded libs |
| 22:48.43 | Shirik | it breaks fubar when you try to use fubarplugin too early |
| 22:48.45 | sylvanaar | like i said - its a bug with a fix |
| 22:49.04 | Fin | mitch1-zZ: I don't understand how that's possible, but - and I'm not being pissy :) - I'll take your word for it |
| 22:49.11 | mitch1-zZ | fin: at least according to some docs I read somewhere that state the addons are loaded in the order the OS returns the dirnames |
| 22:49.12 | Kyah2 | why would it break fubar if you use FBP too early? arent'y they (semi) indendent? |
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| 22:49.25 | Shirik | don't as me, I didn't write either, but we know that's the issue |
| 22:49.27 | Kyah2 | it should just default to a minimap button if fubar dosent load in time |
| 22:49.29 | Shirik | ask* |
| 22:49.31 | Kyah2 | odd |
| 22:49.35 | sylvanaar | Kyah2 thanks for asking the correct quest |
| 22:49.46 | mitch1-zZ | fin: in most cases that should be about the order they were installed, but that's not guaranteed either |
| 22:49.46 | Kemayo | Kyah2: It doesn't break FuBar, per se. It just causes FuBarPlugins created before FuBar is loaded to not be noticed by FuBar. |
| 22:50.18 | Shirik | tbh, I still think the fix is to make FuBarPlugin to opt dep FuBar in, but who knows |
| 22:50.19 | mitch1-zZ | fin: basically, it's random order (but not random on any given machine as long as you don't touch your addons folder) |
| 22:50.20 | Kyahx | and then you just uncheck "Attatch to minimap" .. or am I way off here |
| 22:50.27 | Kyahx | *shrug* |
| 22:50.29 | Arrowmaster | way off |
| 22:50.30 | Kemayo | Kyahx: I quite agree that FuBar should notice pre-existing FBPs and handle them... but that's something people should take up with ckknight. |
| 22:50.33 | Arrowmaster | it breaks stuff |
| 22:50.37 | sylvanaar | thats broken, we gotta check - IsAddOnEnabled i suppose - but someone could have made FuBar LoD |
| 22:50.45 | Shirik | WHY |
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| 22:50.50 | Shirik | there is zero good reason to |
| 22:50.55 | Shirik | except to write extra code |
| 22:51.05 | Fin | mitch1-zZ: yeah, I've read the same, but from what I remember that's actually always going to be alphabetical, except possibly on Macs |
| 22:51.10 | Arrowmaster | but FuBar isnt LoD and shouldnt be |
| 22:51.16 | Fin | mitch1-zZ: err |
| 22:51.16 | mitch1-zZ | fin: nope |
| 22:51.25 | sylvanaar | Ace Mods DO NOT NEED OPTDEPS because they force loading at the wrong times |
| 22:51.30 | Fin | mitch1-zZ: what I said wasn't what I meant. what I meant was right! |
| 22:51.31 | Arrowmaster | if you make it LoD on your own system for something like AddonLoader thats your own fucking fault |
| 22:51.45 | Esteth | I agree with shirik that it makes sense for fubarlib to optdep fubar, allthough i'm still a newb with ace/addon development. It just seems logical. fubarlib depends on fubar to do anything useful, so it should be dependant on fubar. |
| 22:51.51 | Fin | hey, anyway, fuck this! I'm off to play some of the game before I die |
| 22:52.07 | mitch1-zZ | fin: hehe :) |
| 22:52.14 | mitch1-zZ | and imma off to sleep for good now |
| 22:52.19 | Shirik | sylvanaar: Saying that such a wide generalization of mods don't need something that is used in a good portion of addons is |
| 22:52.21 | Shirik | well... stupid |
| 22:52.27 | Shirik | You're giving up a valuable asset |
| 22:52.35 | Shirik | You CAN do it with LoD, yes |
| 22:52.38 | Shirik | But why? |
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| 22:52.59 | Shirik | You can also find the size of a table by iterating over it 20 times |
| 22:53.04 | Funkeh` | heya |
| 22:53.04 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: Actually, I can see the argument for making FuBar LOD... so long as all the FuBar_WhateverFu addons have it as a dep/optdep. |
| 22:53.30 | art3mis | 08-03-2007 |
| 22:53.34 | Kemayo | Because if you have literally no plugins for fubar, you don't really need fubar loading. |
| 22:53.39 | art3mis | Escape from orgrimmar ! |
| 22:53.50 | sylvanaar | no, I am getting rid of old baggage. Optdeps are wrong so long as everything is based on AceLibrary |
| 22:53.54 | Esteth | Kemayo: i'm still new to this, but why not make them LoadWith: FuBar ? |
| 22:54.18 | Shirik | sylvanaar: Can you explain your argument? |
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| 22:54.26 | Shirik | Because all you've said so far is "[they're] so wrong" |
| 22:54.31 | Shirik | instead of saying WHY they're "so wrong" |
| 22:54.33 | Kemayo | sylvanaar: I think the point here is that the FuBar situation isn't a pure acelibrary thing. |
| 22:54.51 | Kemayo | Esteth: LoadWith would work, too. We didn't have it back when I started, so I tend to forget about it. :) |
| 22:54.57 | Shirik | wtf is LoadWith, btw |
| 22:55.13 | pakoz | anyone got an ace mod for a custom cast bar? |
| 22:55.21 | sylvanaar | AceLibrary loads everything. |
| 22:55.23 | Esteth | Shirik: the addon loads whenever it's LoadWith: addon loads, afaik |
| 22:55.34 | Thrae | Shirik: OptDep == Load (Listed) Before this Addon if they exist, LoadWith == Load THIS addon before (Listed), if they exist |
| 22:55.44 | Shirik | ah |
| 22:55.55 | Shirik | so it's like OptDep just in reverse order |
| 22:56.12 | Shirik | sylvanaar: AceLibrary CANNOT force an addon to load |
| 22:56.17 | Thrae | Exactly. First the Blizzard loader parses the TOC of all addons, then it starts loading them in the TOC determined order. |
| 22:56.18 | Antiarc|Work | pakoz: Quartz? |
| 22:56.29 | Shirik | unless (1) it is LOD or (2) it is written entirely encapsulated |
| 22:56.30 | sylvanaar | Shirik ace libraries are loaded as they are actually used instead of when the addon which *may* use them is loaded |
| 22:56.46 | Shirik | that's different |
| 22:57.05 | Shirik | and you're going around the issue. FuBar has code that is not encapsulated, meaning it WILL be loaded immediately when WoW tells it to |
| 22:57.21 | Shirik | you can tell WoW when to do that load, specifically with OptDep |
| 22:57.37 | sylvanaar | Hehe, ok |
| 22:58.09 | Shirik | again, I still think the real solution is to have FuBarPlugin opt dep FuBar |
| 22:58.15 | Shirik | but that's not my decision to make |
| 22:58.19 | Kemayo | Ah, the arguments that could be avoided if ckknight would just write things right the first time. :P |
| 22:58.34 | Kemayo | Shirik: That would only work if you're running disembedded. |
| 22:58.34 | JoshBorke | Kemayo: that's crazy talk |
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| 22:58.40 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r44269 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/ (FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua FuBarPlugin-2.0.toc): |
| 22:58.40 | CIA-22 | FuBarPlugin-2.0: |
| 22:58.40 | CIA-22 | -Set Ace2 and Fubar as OptionalDeps in TOC |
| 22:58.40 | CIA-22 | -Add Note to top of FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua about OptDeping FuBar similar to Glory-2.0 note about setting saved vars |
| 22:58.43 | CIA-22 | -Update svn link to correct location while where at it |
| 22:58.56 | Shirik | hm, ok |
| 22:59.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah yeah i just noticed i misspelled we're |
| 22:59.10 | sylvanaar | grrrd |
| 22:59.22 | sylvanaar | thats wrong |
| 22:59.25 | Thrae | Shirik: I'm confused on this whole issue. Loading an embedded version of FuBarPlugin before FuBar breaks something? That seems like a problem with the FuBarPlugin library. |
| 22:59.34 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: bring it up with ckknight then |
| 22:59.45 | Shirik | Thrae: Attempting to use FuBarPlugin before FuBar is used is a problem |
| 22:59.52 | Shirik | s/used/loaded/ |
| 22:59.56 | ZealotOnAStick | zac |
| 23:00.01 | Kemayo | Thrae: It's a problem with FuBar, actually. (I think.) FuBar doesn't quite handle FuBarPlugins that are created before it loads properly. |
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| 23:00.14 | zac | ZealotOnAStick |
| 23:00.34 | phyber | how do I force wow to try and get information about a specific item id, one that isn't in my cache. |
| 23:00.40 | Thrae | Shirik, Kemayo: Yeah, that's a problem with FuBar then. Hacks are permitted to fix issues when that are not your problem, when you can't fix the underlying issue yourself easily ;) |
| 23:00.50 | ZealotOnAStick | heh. Sorry. That was me vaccuuming my keyboard. |
| 23:01.01 | Shirik | still, the correct solution is not to make fubar lod.. |
| 23:01.28 | Arrowmaster | the correct solution is the original soluion when fubar was created, set it as an optdeop |
| 23:01.32 | TecnoBrat | Shirik, no, its to make Fubar aware of plugins that were loaded before it was :) |
| 23:01.36 | Arrowmaster | s/optdeop/optdep/ |
| 23:02.02 | Shirik | I would prefer Arrowmaster's solution, but that's more of a design decision |
| 23:02.14 | Thrae | Ace2 + FuBar libs have always had very weird embedded problems, especially when you try to run two -release- versions that may not be compatible, but which work fine by themselves. Since ckknight's libs are in perpeptual beta status, you have no idea which minor version will become deprecated. |
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| 23:02.56 | Gngsk | http://ctscreens.net/6828 |
| 23:02.59 | Gngsk | that's a large mount! |
| 23:04.02 | Fisker- | nah |
| 23:04.04 | Fisker- | seen larger |
| 23:04.13 | Gngsk | screenshot or it didn't happen. |
| 23:04.29 | Fisker- | Then it didn't happen |
| 23:04.35 | Fisker- | but that doesn't change TEH FACTS |
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| 23:04.50 | Fisker- | <-anyways sleepztiem |
| 23:05.11 | Shirik | gotta head out for a bit |
| 23:05.20 | Shirik | seriously, though, just because you use Ace does not mean you shouldn't use opt deps |
| 23:05.37 | Shirik | that's like saying you shouldn't eat chocolate because you like vanilla |
| 23:05.54 | Gngsk | you shouldn't. |
| 23:06.02 | Fin | your mum |
| 23:06.09 | Fisker- | your mother Fin |
| 23:06.21 | Fisker- | anyways sleep tiemz for real |
| 23:06.39 | Arrowmaster | 06:29:19p (sylvanaar) FuBarPlugin = AceLibrary:HasInstance("FuBarPlugin", false) and AceLibrary("FuBarPlugin-2.0") |
| 23:06.44 | Arrowmaster | whats the false do there? |
| 23:07.57 | Arrowmaster | im guessing it overrides acelibrary from loading the addon if its not available but found and could be loaded? |
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| 23:08.39 | Arrowmaster | or maybe override acelibrary from loading disabled libraries? |
| 23:09.05 | PHL-Chuck | hey folks can you show TPS in Aloft? |
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| 23:15.55 | Trancer | does Omen already deal with resisted threat resets? |
| 23:16.01 | Trancer | (or drops) |
| 23:16.13 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, it handles those |
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| 23:17.16 | Trancer | k, great |
| 23:18.00 | Kemayo | Antiarc|Work: Is there a way to make Omen show the estimated threat of the spell you're currently casting? |
| 23:18.15 | Antiarc|Work | Kemayo: Not right now, no, but that's an interesting idea. |
| 23:18.28 | TecnoBrat | or .. |
| 23:18.28 | Antiarc|Work | I could tie in with DrDamage to get estimated damage and such |
| 23:18.33 | Coruss | a very interesting idea |
| 23:18.43 | TecnoBrat | how about a bar extension |
| 23:18.48 | TecnoBrat | that shows you were you will land |
| 23:18.51 | TecnoBrat | land up* |
| 23:18.57 | TecnoBrat | after your current cast |
| 23:19.18 | Antiarc|Work | Right, that's what I was thinking |
| 23:19.27 | Antiarc|Work | Like PitBull's estimated heals, but for threat |
| 23:19.31 | TecnoBrat | right |
| 23:20.13 | Antiarc|Work | It should be possible to do it right now, though it'd be ugly. |
| 23:20.21 | sb | mh |
| 23:20.30 | PHL-Chuck | there anyway to show threat per second in aloft tags? |
| 23:20.32 | sb | you could use drdamage values |
| 23:20.36 | sb | * threat |
| 23:20.36 | pakoz | @antiarc: Thanks |
| 23:20.52 | Antiarc|Work | PHL-Chuck: No idea. |
| 23:21.04 | PHL-Chuck | thx guys |
| 23:21.06 | Antiarc|Work | PHL-Chuck: TPS numbers exist in ThreatLib, so it won't be hard to add if you can't already. |
| 23:21.34 | PHL-Chuck | I'll make a reply on the main thread |
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| 23:22.18 | sylvanaar | wtfe |
| 23:25.04 | TecnoBrat | wtfe? |
| 23:25.59 | Kemayo | What The F*cking 'Ell? |
| 23:26.08 | ulic | wft elf? |
| 23:26.24 | art3mis | white trash fucking elf |
| 23:27.21 | Funkeh` | you fucking kidding away for 3 days and 7 pages of unread forum threads |
| 23:28.07 | Nimble | do others people's pitbull not show deadly poison when debuff filtering is on? |
| 23:28.45 | art3mis | sorta |
| 23:28.55 | art3mis | it doesnt show it cuz i dont get hit with it ;P |
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| 23:30.22 | Nimble | I can't figure out a good way to keep track of the number of deadlies I have on an enemy |
| 23:30.25 | Nimble | since pitbull isn't showing it |
| 23:30.27 | Nimble | very annoying |
| 23:30.35 | art3mis | dont debuff filter? |
| 23:30.40 | art3mis | dont use pitbull |
| 23:30.55 | art3mis | get buffalo or something elseto keep track of it? |
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| 23:32.56 | Nimble | buffalo? |
| 23:33.08 | Nimble | I'm trying not using the filter right now |
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| 23:33.20 | Nimble | but it really doesn't work well with my UI and deadly poison is harder to keep track of |
| 23:34.18 | art3mis | yeah buffalo is custom buff stuff but im not entirely sure if anypone but yourself |
| 23:34.34 | art3mis | you could just use aguf or xperl orsomething in stead |
| 23:36.01 | sb | xperl still causes disconnects when joining raidgrps on connect |
| 23:36.07 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44272 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Fix last comms commit (should have been using new() instead of newSet()). |
| 23:36.29 | Nimble | hmm |
| 23:36.30 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44273 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PartyLog/PartyLog.lua: |
| 23:36.30 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 23:36.30 | CIA-22 | -PartyLog: Update to take advantage of new Quixote data. |
| 23:37.04 | art3mis | really? |
| 23:37.08 | art3mis | i havent it dsicon me once |
| 23:37.11 | art3mis | discon |
| 23:37.22 | art3mis | and i swear the last update we got from blizz fixed that problem |
| 23:37.29 | sb | mh |
| 23:37.48 | art3mis | there was a line about unitframes something or other causing lockups |
| 23:37.48 | sb | but we have still ~2 xperl users that need to be kicked out of the group.. |
| 23:37.56 | art3mis | odd |
| 23:38.06 | art3mis | they might not have the latest possibly |
| 23:38.13 | art3mis | i use xperl and havent had the issue |
| 23:38.34 | art3mis | since last week that is |
| 23:38.41 | art3mis | it was REALLY appearant in aguf |
| 23:38.54 | Kaydeethree | xperl's had that issue fixed for a while, I thought. |
| 23:39.21 | sb | mh |
| 23:39.27 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: bug or feature? using addonloader and omen is always in the center of my screen when its loaded |
| 23:39.30 | art3mis | yeah, prolly just an old version |
| 23:39.39 | art3mis | arrow: feature ;P |
| 23:39.44 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Probably a bug |
| 23:39.53 | art3mis | no its a undocumented feature |
| 23:40.08 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: I don't think that the AceEvent_FullyInitialized handler ever gets called when it gets loaded like that |
| 23:40.58 | Antiarc|Work | What's that do, anyhow? |
| 23:41.03 | art3mis | it does that on new revisions too anti |
| 23:41.11 | Antiarc|Work | It does? |
| 23:41.16 | art3mis | has for me at least |
| 23:41.17 | Antiarc|Work | I've never seen that happen on a new revision |
| 23:41.19 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: it also always shows when it loads that way even though im solo without a pet |
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| 23:41.25 | art3mis | usually centers itfor me |
| 23:41.26 | Antiarc|Work | Do you use any kind of loader, art3mis? |
| 23:41.29 | art3mis | nupe |
| 23:41.32 | Antiarc|Work | Hm |
| 23:41.36 | kokice | who owns shamans in pvp |
| 23:41.41 | art3mis | its not a big deal though for me anyways |
| 23:41.44 | Antiarc|Work | MS warriors |
| 23:41.49 | kokice | ms? |
| 23:41.50 | kokice | whats ms |
| 23:41.54 | JoshBorke | mortal strike |
| 23:41.58 | Antiarc|Work | You plan to PVP and not know what MS is? |
| 23:42.00 | art3mis | microsoft |
| 23:42.04 | Trisorion | ~mikk |
| 23:42.05 | purl | from memory, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 23:42.08 | art3mis | microsoft warriors |
| 23:42.30 | kokice | Antiarc|Work: im a noob |
| 23:42.55 | kokice | whats mortal strike |
| 23:43.05 | Chompers | mega stabby warriors |
| 23:43.17 | kokice | ... haha |
| 23:43.23 | kokice | what about mega nasty shamans? |
| 23:43.31 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44274 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - New full raid syncing in |
| 23:43.32 | art3mis | heh |
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| 23:44.03 | art3mis | imreally digging sphere |
| 23:44.07 | art3mis | its so cute |
| 23:44.29 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: maybe you should just remove the loadmanager stuff from the omen toc? |
| 23:44.37 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, probably will |
| 23:44.45 | kokice | who else owns shamans besides warriors |
| 23:44.58 | kokice | .. these so called mega stabby wars hah |
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| 23:45.27 | Chompers | what level is this shaman of yours? |
| 23:45.36 | Coruss | warlocks own anything with <10k hp |
| 23:45.43 | kokice | 70 |
| 23:45.58 | kokice | if locks can have that much hp |
| 23:46.01 | Chompers | and you've never come across an ms warrior? |
| 23:46.05 | kokice | why woudlnt a shaman ahve much |
| 23:46.16 | kokice | mortal strike is a build for warriors? |
| 23:46.37 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 23:46.43 | Chompers | both a build and an attack |
| 23:46.45 | buu | kokice: How many hp do you have? |
| 23:46.49 | Chompers | and a debuff |
| 23:46.58 | kokice | sorry my shaman is not 70 yet |
| 23:47.03 | kokice | still working on it but im curuios |
| 23:47.22 | Chompers | so what level are you? |
| 23:47.33 | kokice | 29 |
| 23:47.37 | buu | HAhahaah |
| 23:47.49 | Coruss | damn fire alarms |
| 23:47.50 | Chompers | why did you say 70 earlier ? :S |
| 23:47.51 | Coruss | bbl |
| 23:48.02 | kokice | didnt mean to |
| 23:48.09 | kokice | my visino was of 70 |
| 23:48.13 | kokice | sorry about that |
| 23:49.01 | kokice | i hear many say shamans are no good, some say they are op.. |
| 23:49.03 | kokice | whats it going to be |
| 23:49.06 | kokice | op or no good |
| 23:49.29 | Clokwork | Both |
| 23:49.38 | buu | Shamans are fine, learn to play. |
| 23:52.14 | art3mis | shamans suck |
| 23:52.23 | art3mis | if you arent tauren or troll ;) |
| 23:52.30 | ccKep | shamans have significant advantages when put into the right locations |
| 23:53.09 | Wobin | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6295138.stm |
| 23:53.23 | Wobin | "UK military spokesman Major Mike Shearer said: "We can categorically state that we have not released man-eating badgers into the area." |
| 23:53.58 | Trancer | man eating badgers, hah |
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| 23:55.30 | art3mis | i want one of those now |
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| 23:57.09 | Chompers | i live in fear of the badgers day and night |
| 23:57.17 | Chompers | they ate my wife and child |
| 23:57.19 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:57.34 | Shirik | I love how I can log onto IRC and I'm always suprised by the first thing I see |
| 23:57.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:58.00 | Trancer | Wobin: all I had to think when I read that btw.. |
| 23:58.05 | Trancer | "MUSHROOM MUSHROOOOM" |
| 23:58.07 | abug | "It is the size of a dog but his head is like a monkey" |
| 23:58.31 | Trancer | especially since they mentioned a cobra in the quick facts ;-) |
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| 23:59.07 | NeoTron | amusing |
| 23:59.16 | Chompers | i for one welcome the man eating badgers into my life |
| 23:59.31 | NeoTron | kind of gives you a gimpse back into the medivial ages |
| 23:59.39 | Chompers | we can live in harmony, man and badger alike |
| 23:59.57 | abug | damn those dirty badgers...damn them all |
