| 00:00.00 | PHL-Chuck | hey anyone know if there is a way to show debuffs on a mouseover tooltip? I just discovered the mouseover way to lacerate and wanna be able to see which I hit |
| 00:00.09 | PHL-Chuck | dont think cowtip does it |
| 00:00.12 | weab | i can't fathom why |
| 00:00.20 | weab | it's by far my favorite feature :( |
| 00:00.29 | ckknight | because when I talk to an innkeeper, I do it to bind |
| 00:00.43 | Knaledge | thats kind of my side of things |
| 00:00.51 | ckknight | if I talk to a weapon dealer, I do it to sell/buy stuff |
| 00:00.51 | weab | 98% of the time i talk to an innkeeper it's because i want to sell or buy |
| 00:00.55 | Knaledge | I don't really ever talk to an innkeeper other than to bind myself |
| 00:00.57 | ckknight | well not me |
| 00:00.59 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, it's FuBar screwing when you resize the bar... Afterwards the entire addon just goes nuts and you can't do prober panels etc -.- |
| 00:01.09 | ckknight | weab: not everyone plays the exact same way you do |
| 00:01.12 | Knaledge | but on the other hand, thats just us though |
| 00:01.15 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: k |
| 00:01.22 | weab | i'm very aware of that |
| 00:01.33 | Knaledge | some might go to an innkeeper to sell things, I personally don't - just to bind |
| 00:01.40 | Knaledge | whereas weab goes to an innkeeper for junk selling |
| 00:01.41 | weab | but i'm surprised that it differs much in this case |
| 00:01.44 | sb | bah... i dont get it - i create frames - they have all width=300 - but some are like 450px? :/ |
| 00:01.47 | sb | *sigh* |
| 00:01.50 | Knaledge | I actually nver think of that and seek out a arms vendor or trade goods dealer |
| 00:01.53 | Pkekyo | http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3263/wowscrnshot071707202142to4.jpg <--- what's the damage/healingmeter thing in the lower right corner? |
| 00:02.00 | Matrix110 | sb is your UI scale 1,5?^^ |
| 00:02.02 | [Liquidor] | Which mod should I look for to get more statusbar textures (PitBull) and / or layouts? |
| 00:02.14 | sb | Matrix110: mhh.. |
| 00:03.04 | Matrix110 | i had that problem aswell i created frames with 800width and they were only like 700px wide |
| 00:03.05 | PHL-Chuck | pkekyo: thats violation |
| 00:03.06 | sb | Matrix110: *selfstab* |
| 00:03.14 | sb | its the scale thing... |
| 00:03.15 | Matrix110 | then i noticed its my UI Scale messing with me |
| 00:03.18 | Pkekyo | ~violation |
| 00:03.26 | Pkekyo | no? oh well, gotta find the fucking wiki then |
| 00:03.48 | Knaledge | UI Scale used to play havoc with Titan |
| 00:04.17 | Knaledge | I couldn't use it for a solid month because ad didn't update it for everrrrr |
| 00:04.30 | Pkekyo | PHL-Chuck: is it ace? |
| 00:04.55 | PHL-Chuck | Pkekyo: yes |
| 00:05.02 | Knaledge | @ Pkekyo |
| 00:05.06 | Knaledge | that looks like maybe SW Stats? |
| 00:05.13 | Knaledge | er |
| 00:05.23 | PHL-Chuck | nah, its violation.. I use it |
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| 00:05.32 | Knaledge | violation? |
| 00:05.34 | PHL-Chuck | sw has those buttons on time |
| 00:05.35 | PHL-Chuck | top* |
| 00:05.37 | Knaledge | I'll have to check it out |
| 00:05.44 | Pkekyo | should I exchange recap for violationn? |
| 00:05.44 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 00:06.08 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: SharedMedia |
| 00:06.08 | Chompers | try Recount too |
| 00:06.08 | PHL-Chuck | recap is much more detailed, but violation shares data with sw and damagemeters |
| 00:06.20 | Pkekyo | recount? |
| 00:06.27 | Pkekyo | how many damagemeters is a guy supposed to have? xD |
| 00:06.33 | PHL-Chuck | lol |
| 00:06.41 | Knaledge | Here's a question: Is it possible that using something like xPerl (/classic), agUF, or Pitbull might actually use LESS resources than the default woW UI? |
| 00:06.44 | Pkekyo | PHL-Chuck: how customizable is violation? |
| 00:07.13 | Matrix110 | purl, violation is an universal damage/healing/threat meter written by Ammo/Rabbit/Adirelle(and maybe some others :P) see http://wowace.com/wiki/Violation for more details |
| 00:07.13 | purl | okay, Matrix110 |
| 00:07.15 | PHL-Chuck | its just like sw_stats or damagemeters, has different windows for each breakdown |
| 00:07.21 | Matrix110 | ~violation |
| 00:07.22 | purl | well, violation is an universal damage/healing/threat meter written by Ammo/Rabbit/Adirelle(and maybe some others :P) see http://wowace.com/wiki/Violation for more details |
| 00:07.41 | Pkekyo | Knaledge: I'd imagine it could, but I don't really know |
| 00:07.45 | PHL-Chuck | recount is cool but way too much info for normal people lolz |
| 00:07.55 | sb | mhhhm |
| 00:08.07 | PHL-Chuck | it even has pie charts! |
| 00:08.08 | ckknight | Knaledge: theoretically, but doubtful |
| 00:08.22 | sb | is there an easy/clean way to change High/Low text of "Slider" frames? (created in lua) |
| 00:08.27 | Pkekyo | PIE?! SHARE! |
| 00:08.41 | Chompers | the graphs are nice too |
| 00:08.41 | Knaledge | and is it also equally possble then that using these unitframe modifiers could in fact decrease FPS? |
| 00:09.04 | PHL-Chuck | I need a new PC with widescreen then I'd have all that stuff running |
| 00:09.06 | Matrix110 | Knaledge thats impossible as the Blizzard UI is always loaded even when other addons replace it(afaik) |
| 00:09.07 | Knaledge | it just seems like in the case of Matrix' screenshot, the UI is so heavly modified... |
| 00:09.07 | Pkekyo | Knaledge: probably |
| 00:09.28 | Matrix110 | The fps decrease by a UF mod is normally hardly noticeable |
| 00:09.46 | Knaledge | more power to you for having it like that, for sure :) |
| 00:09.55 | Knaledge | I just orry about my 7300GT handling all that on screen |
| 00:10.08 | sb | Knaledge: uhm - talking about my screenshot? |
| 00:10.10 | Knaledge | the machine itself is a beast but the video card is lacking.. |
| 00:10.15 | PHL-Chuck | does /reloadui "save" your settings? cause for some reason when I configured pitbull raid frames then go check them out in AV I crash and lose it all.. its more then likely my pc but still, tired of redoing em |
| 00:10.18 | Pkekyo | not many addons should noticably decrease fps...the sum of addons though, could instagib you if you're computer aren't up to speed |
| 00:10.26 | Matrix110 | the video card laughs about wow anyway :P |
| 00:10.41 | Knaledge | thats ture I mean.. I have a Mac Pro but it's running with a 7300GT |
| 00:11.03 | Pkekyo | Matrix110: this screenshot of yours they're talking about...is it the Morogrim one? |
| 00:11.06 | Knaledge | for shame too since everything else in it is stacked... jsut when we ordered it, buying the upgrade to the X1900XT would have delayed it by 2 months |
| 00:11.12 | Knaledge | @ Pkekyo: yes |
| 00:11.13 | Matrix110 | uhm i didnt post a screenshot:P |
| 00:11.16 | Knaledge | er |
| 00:11.22 | Knaledge | well whatevr one was with moro in it |
| 00:11.26 | sb | <- |
| 00:11.28 | Knaledge | k |
| 00:11.32 | Knaledge | so SB's screenshot |
| 00:11.33 | sb | Knaledge: well - its 6800GT @ 1600x1200 |
| 00:11.36 | Knaledge | street cred and all |
| 00:11.44 | Matrix110 | but my interface doesnt look much better:P |
| 00:11.53 | sb | hey! its nice |
| 00:11.54 | Pkekyo | the Morogrim one...behind the chat frames, there's some small icons at the upper left...anyone know what it is? |
| 00:12.05 | Knaledge | sb? |
| 00:12.06 | Pkekyo | WTB 1600x1200 res please :> |
| 00:12.10 | kergoth | hmm, i need a new video card, preferably nvidia, any recommendations? doesnt need to be /top/ of hte line, i'm not spending $600, but.. |
| 00:12.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:12.20 | Knaledge | @ kergoth |
| 00:12.25 | Knaledge | get a nVidia 8800GTS |
| 00:12.30 | Knaledge | they go for about $300 or less |
| 00:12.31 | sb | Pkekyo: prat chatcopy |
| 00:12.38 | Knaledge | 640~ MB of RAM |
| 00:12.44 | trh | kergoth: cheap = 7600GT |
| 00:12.49 | Knaledge | you can play ANYTHING at nearly full blast |
| 00:12.50 | Arrowmaster | the 7600 and 7800 are at perty cheap prices |
| 00:12.56 | trh | kergoth: good = 8800 =) |
| 00:13.04 | Pkekyo | also curious about the fubar(?) on the lower right... |
| 00:13.05 | Knaledge | I've seen 8800 GTS for as little as $200 |
| 00:13.15 | Pkekyo | how to get'em that small? |
| 00:13.21 | Matrix110 | 8800GTS 640MB is the best card you can get atm for gaming without paying to much |
| 00:13.28 | Arrowmaster | are the 8800's for that cheap have like half the memory |
| 00:13.29 | kergoth | cool, thanks for the advice guys |
| 00:13.38 | Knaledge | @ Arrow: no way |
| 00:13.48 | Knaledge | the 8800GTX and Ultra only have 756? |
| 00:13.51 | Knaledge | or something like hat |
| 00:13.54 | kergoth | i'm using a $50 cheapass pci-e card atm that i bought when i had to send my decent one back, but then they were out of stock, havent been able to afford to upgrade again till now |
| 00:14.05 | sb | Pkekyo: mh - resize it? :p |
| 00:14.16 | Knaledge | kergoth - if you want long term dont need to think abot it for a WHILE (year and half or more) |
| 00:14.17 | Pkekyo | sb: any idea how? |
| 00:14.21 | Knaledge | get a 8800GTS |
| 00:14.43 | Knaledge | especially if WoW is the only game on your plate for the forseeable future |
| 00:14.48 | Matrix110 | 8800GTS will hold atleast 2years :P |
| 00:14.53 | Knaledge | yeah agreed |
| 00:15.01 | Knaledge | the 7300GT I have in here has held up for almost a year no |
| 00:15.03 | Arrowmaster | hell im still using an x800xtpe |
| 00:15.05 | Pkekyo | hmm...I'm sitting on a radeon..err...X1650...anyone know if it's any good for anything at all? :> |
| 00:15.12 | Chompers | 9700pro |
| 00:15.13 | Knaledge | it's good |
| 00:15.17 | Chompers | what a wonderful card |
| 00:15.18 | Knaledge | not awesome, but its not bad |
| 00:15.19 | Matrix110 | 9800Pro here and besides Shader2.0 enforcing games everything runs fine |
| 00:15.27 | Matrix110 | or 3.0 cant remember |
| 00:15.28 | Pkekyo | knaledge: talking to me? :> |
| 00:15.29 | Knaledge | it's a BIT faster than the baseline nVidia 7xxx |
| 00:15.35 | Knaledge | @ Pkekyo: yeah |
| 00:15.44 | Knaledge | I used to have a x1600 in my Dell |
| 00:15.46 | Arrowmaster | i think ill just build a new system before upgrading this one |
| 00:15.53 | Pkekyo | cool...I just took it 'cause it was the cheapest one I could find that 'sounded' new-ish xD |
| 00:15.58 | Knaledge | hehe |
| 00:16.00 | Knaledge | not a bad deal |
| 00:16.06 | Knaledge | though hopefully you didnt pay over $100 |
| 00:16.08 | Knaledge | (if that) |
| 00:16.17 | Pkekyo | sat on radeon 9600xt cards for a few years |
| 00:16.17 | Knaledge | (they're that cheap) |
| 00:16.19 | sb | mhhhhh wtf 8800GTS at ~200$? |
| 00:16.25 | Pkekyo | knaledge: sadly, I did...fucking norwegian taxes |
| 00:16.45 | sb | its >300 eur here... |
| 00:16.49 | Matrix110 | no |
| 00:16.49 | Matrix110 | Oo |
| 00:16.52 | trh | sb: the cheap ones with like 256mb ram |
| 00:17.05 | Matrix110 | 240euro with 320MB and 300with 640MB |
| 00:17.20 | Knaledge | You can get them for cheaper when you find a good deal |
| 00:17.21 | Pkekyo | I can imagine I paid...err...120-160$ for ut...not sure about the value of dollars vs NOK nowadays :> |
| 00:17.27 | Knaledge | check Hardocp.com often! :) |
| 00:17.51 | trh | Matrix110: oh.. damn.. right.. looked at 8600gts |
| 00:18.02 | Pkekyo | AMD cutting the prices of their CPUs are pissing me off >.< |
| 00:18.09 | Knaledge | I just bought my brother a eVGA 8800GTS for $225 shipped via ZipZoomFly last month |
| 00:18.12 | Matrix110 | they stopped Pkekyo |
| 00:18.17 | Matrix110 | they cant afforc it |
| 00:18.19 | Knaledge | 840MB |
| 00:18.21 | *** part/#wowace mitch1 (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-189-11.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 00:18.22 | Knaledge | *640MB |
| 00:18.26 | NeoTron | how do 8600GTS and 8800GTS compare to say a 7800GTX card? |
| 00:18.34 | trh | Knaledge: that's cheap :( |
| 00:18.36 | Knaledge | 8800GTS well |
| 00:18.40 | Pkekyo | Matrix110: soeh, no cheap AMDs? |
| 00:18.47 | Knaledge | 8600GTS = stick with the 7800GTX |
| 00:18.49 | Matrix110 | well they are cheap already |
| 00:18.53 | Matrix110 | they just wont get cheaper |
| 00:19.00 | Matrix110 | but tbh Intel blows AMD away atm |
| 00:19.06 | Knaledge | agreed |
| 00:19.07 | Pkekyo | bought a X2 4600+ a few months ago |
| 00:19.09 | Knaledge | not impressed with AMD atm |
| 00:19.15 | Knaledge | especially their server segment |
| 00:19.18 | Matrix110 | the bad thing is AMD = only competition for Intel |
| 00:19.18 | trh | the cheapest 8800gts is like 360eur here |
| 00:19.23 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44035 10Assessment/ (Extras/BigWigs.lua Modules/Aura.lua Modules/Damage.lua): |
| 00:19.23 | CIA-22 | Assessment : |
| 00:19.23 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.25 | Matrix110 | and AMD is going bankrupt atm |
| 00:19.28 | trh | (with 640mb) |
| 00:19.31 | Matrix110 | no trh |
| 00:19.34 | Matrix110 | 302euro |
| 00:19.41 | Matrix110 | l2geizhals |
| 00:19.50 | trh | Matrix110: only looked at our local store.. probably a bit cheaper in the internet |
| 00:19.56 | Knaledge | @trh: you gotta wait for sales... I've never shopped overseas but telling you - wait for deals |
| 00:19.58 | Diao | intel is cutting prices too |
| 00:20.01 | Pkekyo | oh well... 2.4GHz should be fine for my use for quite some time now :> |
| 00:20.05 | Diao | in 5 days |
| 00:20.11 | Knaledge | @trhL YES! also look at the internet for deals noever brick/mortar |
| 00:20.12 | Matrix110 | Diao only for their old shitty CPUs no one wants:P |
| 00:20.15 | Diao | no |
| 00:20.18 | Diao | on july 22 |
| 00:20.25 | Matrix110 | The new 1333FSB arent getting cheaper:-( |
| 00:20.27 | Diao | all core 2 duo/extreme are 50% price cut |
| 00:20.31 | Knaledge | @diao: yeah a lot of the new ones are going down |
| 00:20.34 | trh | Knaledge: problem with oversea is that the damn duties take like 30% extra :( |
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| 00:20.37 | Knaledge | AMD is notorious for it |
| 00:20.44 | Knaledge | also means a new SKU is on the horizon :) |
| 00:20.48 | Matrix110 | nope only the old ones with 1066 are going down:-( |
| 00:21.02 | fireglow | how stable/usable is Omen? |
| 00:21.09 | Matrix110 | stable=100% |
| 00:21.13 | trh | Knaledge: but still, the cheapest 8800gts in the internet is like 300eur :( |
| 00:21.14 | Matrix110 | useable=~60-70% |
| 00:21.26 | sb | trh: mh - yep |
| 00:21.28 | trh | doesn't really matter as i only got agp =) |
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| 00:21.40 | Pkekyo | I'd wish I didn't throw away the packaging of my hardware...now I don't know what I bought anymore xD |
| 00:21.40 | trh | and i'm quite happy with my system at the moment |
| 00:21.45 | fireglow | ok fine. is it compatible with KTM? in case not everyone in the raid has Omen? |
| 00:21.53 | trh | fireglow: yes |
| 00:21.54 | Pkekyo | fireglow: yes |
| 00:22.01 | fireglow | kk, thanks |
| 00:22.04 | Knaledge | @pkekyo: in windows, press START then click on RUN in the lwer right |
| 00:22.08 | Knaledge | then type "dxdiag" |
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| 00:22.13 | Knaledge | that will tell you what you have |
| 00:22.16 | Matrix110 | I suggest using the same threatmeter though for the whole raid |
| 00:22.19 | Diao | 1333s are lower in price |
| 00:22.22 | trh | fireglow: if you only get enUS/enGB clients threat/omen is very useable |
| 00:22.29 | Pkekyo | ok guys, I sereously need extreme help: how to stay awake the next 10hours? |
| 00:22.37 | Diao | e6700 is currently $317, the new e6750 is debuting at $183 |
| 00:22.37 | fireglow | ok, got that |
| 00:22.42 | Knaledge | @pkekyo: no porn! |
| 00:22.50 | Knaledge | @pkekyo: no cold temps |
| 00:22.50 | trh | fireglow: with mixed localizations it still has some issues |
| 00:22.56 | Matrix110 | Thats not a pricecut though Diao its a new CPU :P |
| 00:22.56 | sb | 10 hours? why? :P |
| 00:23.00 | Knaledge | @pkekyo: music and food = win! |
| 00:23.03 | Diao | it's basically a price cut |
| 00:23.07 | Diao | lol |
| 00:23.18 | Pkekyo | 'cause I gotta get up early, but if I go to sleep now I won't be able to get up |
| 00:23.21 | Diao | you're getting better performance for ~60% the price |
| 00:23.35 | Matrix110 | Still not a pricecut... :P |
| 00:23.42 | Knaledge | @diao: yes but Intel's equivalent quad core and dual core componenets outpace those newer parts |
| 00:23.47 | Pkekyo | ATI Radeon X1650 512MB...sounds nice :> |
| 00:23.48 | Knaledge | and thats not even at 1333 FSB |
| 00:24.02 | Knaledge | Intels NEW parts, out near December, will supposedly put THOSE to shame |
| 00:24.12 | Diao | huh? |
| 00:24.17 | Matrix110 | not out near december |
| 00:24.18 | Diao | those are intel cpus |
| 00:24.22 | Diao | that i just listed |
| 00:24.22 | Diao | o_O |
| 00:24.28 | Knaledge | sorry I meant AMD's, in reference |
| 00:24.44 | Knaledge | and meant for server stuff, to clarify, matrix |
| 00:24.49 | Matrix110 | well ok |
| 00:24.55 | Knaledge | <- looking forward to upgrading the Mac Pro! :) |
| 00:24.56 | Matrix110 | nobody cares about server stuff in here tbh :P |
| 00:24.56 | Diao | wait what |
| 00:25.04 | Knaledge | I do! lol |
| 00:25.05 | Diao | amd cpus are nowhere near intel's in terms of performance atm |
| 00:25.11 | Knaledge | right |
| 00:25.25 | Pkekyo | ok, I need a monitor capable of giving me a 2560x1600 resolution...what to buy? :> |
| 00:25.37 | Knaledge | @pkekyo: Dell 3007FPW |
| 00:25.38 | sb | mhhmm |
| 00:25.39 | Diao | dell or apple |
| 00:25.43 | Knaledge | don't do apple |
| 00:25.44 | Matrix110 | Apple cinema display is like the only one capable of that or? |
| 00:25.45 | Knaledge | do dell |
| 00:25.51 | Knaledge | same mfg on the panel |
| 00:25.57 | Knaledge | Apple = Dell when it comes to the panel mfg |
| 00:26.03 | Diao | both use LG dont' they |
| 00:26.04 | Knaledge | they both use samsung and toshiba |
| 00:26.07 | Knaledge | no |
| 00:26.11 | sb | X1650? get 1950 instead - good pricing |
| 00:26.14 | Knaledge | samsung or toshiba |
| 00:26.26 | Diao | hm |
| 00:26.32 | Diao | i remember reading they use lg |
| 00:26.37 | Matrix110 | But those displays are way to expensive better to get 2x 22" |
| 00:26.37 | Knaledge | they have used LG panels in the 30 inch monitor |
| 00:26.40 | Pkekyo | holy shit, 24"?! |
| 00:26.50 | Knaledge | you have to |
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| 00:27.02 | Knaledge | no way to get that pixel scale in a smaller panel atm |
| 00:27.12 | Knaledge | it's 22" + or bust |
| 00:27.16 | sb | mhh, wtb 2nd 20" |
| 00:27.21 | Knaledge | or get a wicked expensive SGI monitor |
| 00:27.23 | Esteth | i've got 24" + 19" Dual screen :D |
| 00:27.37 | Pkekyo | hm...I might as well ninja my parents' lcd tv then |
| 00:27.43 | sb | 3200x1200 would be okay ;o |
| 00:27.48 | Knaledge | @pkekyo: I would'nt do that |
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| 00:27.57 | sb | and <3 samsung 204B |
| 00:28.07 | Knaledge | @pkekyo: unless parents are rich or bought recently, the highest res on that thing is 1368x768 |
| 00:28.24 | Pkekyo | it was bought...er...a few months ago |
| 00:28.31 | Matrix110 | how much was it about? |
| 00:28.35 | Knaledge | if it was "cheap" ($1000+ |
| 00:28.44 | Knaledge | it's probably not even 1080p (1920x1080) |
| 00:28.48 | Pkekyo | I don't have a clue, I just look at the damn thing |
| 00:28.57 | Matrix110 | How big is it? |
| 00:29.04 | Pkekyo | 32" methinks |
| 00:29.10 | Knaledge | then its def not 1080p |
| 00:29.14 | Knaledge | thats a 1360x768 |
| 00:29.16 | Matrix110 | Hmm then its unlikely a 1080p |
| 00:29.17 | Knaledge | do not want |
| 00:29.29 | Pkekyo | it's not 1080p, but has some bullshit "hd-ready" or something title they used to sell it |
| 00:29.31 | Knaledge | no one makes a 32" 1080p panel so ts def not |
| 00:29.38 | Matrix110 | 1080 start at like 37" or get damn expensive |
| 00:29.57 | Knaledge | actually starts @ 37" and the smaller 1080p = the more expensive |
| 00:30.15 | Knaledge | 47" 1080p cn be less than a 37" in some cases |
| 00:30.22 | NeoTron | Airport Security: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9831094@N02/755509753/ |
| 00:30.42 | Knaledge | hah that cant be real |
| 00:30.52 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 00:31.11 | Pkekyo | NeoTron: speaking of airport security...anyone seen the vid of the guy spraypainting Airforce one? :> |
| 00:32.38 | Pkekyo | Knaledge: Dell 3007FPW is waaaaaaay outta my league |
| 00:32.46 | Pkekyo | :< |
| 00:33.20 | Pkekyo | Knaledge: I'd bet it is real...I see shit like that everywhere....the commercial boards on the buses around here tend to have alot of BSoDs :> |
| 00:33.22 | NeoTron | considering how you see airport terminals and gas pumps with BSOD's and similar fun stuff, sure it can be |
| 00:34.12 | Pkekyo | gas pumps even? didn't know they ran windows |
| 00:34.52 | sylvanaar | how much are you guys getting 8800s for |
| 00:35.22 | Diao | gts should be ~$300 |
| 00:35.24 | Diao | gtx much more |
| 00:35.49 | sylvanaar | yeah, gas pumps, i did a project for safeway and thier pumps run windows ce |
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| 00:37.24 | Pkekyo | ce? |
| 00:37.37 | sylvanaar | i dont think there is much beyond 1920 is there? |
| 00:38.02 | sylvanaar | i have a gtx, i was gonna cry if you got it for $300 |
| 00:38.25 | NeoTron | Pkekyo: new fancy ones sometimes do... :) |
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| 00:40.27 | Pkekyo | well, I wouldn't know about that then...I live out in fuckall nowhere |
| 00:41.09 | dodgizzla | Man.. my SMTP server was fubar for nearly 60 hours, just because they decided to randomly lowercase stuff in the config file generator |
| 00:41.19 | dodgizzla | ty Debian, grrr |
| 00:45.14 | Pkekyo | did they change the colour of the BSOD in vista? |
| 00:45.38 | sb | dodgizzla: haha, debian :p |
| 00:46.06 | dodgizzla | sb: :P |
| 00:46.13 | sb | dont use it? :) |
| 00:46.20 | dodgizzla | Meh |
| 00:46.25 | dodgizzla | too convenient |
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| 00:49.50 | dodgizzla | wtf is "Nasty PTR record" :o |
| 00:50.01 | dodgizzla | not only are people trying to bruteforce into my server |
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| 00:50.06 | dodgizzla | Now they even have nasty records |
| 00:57.11 | Pkekyo | George Carlin is a fucking genious |
| 00:57.19 | Pkekyo | anyone seen his Modern Man-act? |
| 00:57.46 | Keias | Carlin is amazing |
| 00:58.13 | Pkekyo | he's not dead yet? |
| 00:58.13 | Pkekyo | I've gotta see him live before he bites the dust |
| 00:58.22 | Keias | He's still kicking |
| 00:58.37 | Pkekyo | if I only could afford to go to the states |
| 00:58.45 | Pkekyo | http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000548.html :> |
| 00:59.21 | [Liquidor] | http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9820/wowscrnshot071807024700ji7.jpg -- I'm out of ideas for how I should arrange my unitframes, any ideas/comments? |
| 01:00.17 | Pkekyo | I've got a radical one: don't use unitframes for self/target...hud = win :> |
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| 01:01.04 | Pkekyo | tbh, your UI is a bit too minimalistic for me :> |
| 01:01.30 | Pkekyo | sec, gonna see if I can find mine |
| 01:02.20 | Pkekyo | http://i11.tinypic.com/6he00fm.jpg modified quite a bit since then, but should give you a general idea |
| 01:02.46 | [Liquidor] | Pkekyo, if I were to use a HUD instead, how do you suggest I should "fill" out the empty areas on either side of the minimap? |
| 01:03.03 | Xuerian | Put it in a corner |
| 01:03.31 | RaydenUni | why would you not use a unitframe for yourself? |
| 01:03.33 | Pkekyo | liquidor: do you really need to? |
| 01:03.35 | RaydenUni | that's the most important unitframe |
| 01:03.43 | Pkekyo | rayden: simplicity...refer to my UI |
| 01:03.49 | RaydenUni | text? |
| 01:03.54 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: If you're not using click-casting, a unitframe for yourself isn't really necessary |
| 01:04.03 | Pkekyo | use a hud, and you've got both your own and target in one... |
| 01:04.03 | RaydenUni | i want to see how much life i have |
| 01:04.05 | RaydenUni | and mana |
| 01:04.10 | Xuerian | hud vs unitframe |
| 01:04.11 | Xuerian | :) |
| 01:04.13 | Pkekyo | rayden: http://i11.tinypic.com/6he00fm.jpg |
| 01:04.14 | RaydenUni | and as a rogue pitbull shows me when i get more energy |
| 01:04.19 | Pkekyo | look at the hud! |
| 01:04.25 | Xuerian | Hud mods do that too. |
| 01:04.32 | RaydenUni | what do you mean HUD? |
| 01:04.32 | Pkekyo | yup |
| 01:04.37 | Pkekyo | Heads Up Display |
| 01:04.39 | Xuerian | "Heads Up Display" |
| 01:04.46 | RaydenUni | and what do you mean by that? |
| 01:04.50 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44036 10Recount/ (5 files): Recount - Adds Death Graph to the death log that lets you see how fast the mob/player died visually (if the actual max health is known for the character it will also show hits & heals as dots) |
| 01:04.50 | Xuerian | .... |
| 01:04.53 | [Liquidor] | :> |
| 01:04.58 | Xuerian | Loooook at the screeeeeenshot |
| 01:04.58 | RaydenUni | i would say everything on the screen that doesn't exist in the world is your HUD |
| 01:05.00 | [Liquidor] | Seems like someone doesn't know what HUD is. |
| 01:05.04 | RaydenUni | unitframes are part of the HUD |
| 01:05.08 | Xuerian | yes |
| 01:05.16 | Xuerian | But they don't resemble the classical "hud" |
| 01:05.27 | Xuerian | Think of a fighter aircraft. |
| 01:05.44 | Xuerian | in the last generation is was a overlay in the windshield or infront of it. Not much opaque at all |
| 01:05.50 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: http://i11.tinypic.com/6he00fm.jpg <--- look at the middle of the screen around my char |
| 01:05.50 | Pkekyo | you see the curves? |
| 01:05.50 | Pkekyo | that's my hp, target hp, mana, rage and whatnot |
| 01:05.56 | RaydenUni | you are talking about the letters are your character's picture right? |
| 01:06.03 | RaydenUni | oh those |
| 01:06.09 | RaydenUni | they are barely visible in that screen |
| 01:06.14 | Xuerian | They fade in when they change |
| 01:06.22 | Pkekyo | aye, they fade away when not in combat |
| 01:06.25 | Xuerian | No point being glaringly visible when not needed |
| 01:06.42 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_071007_230752.jpg |
| 01:07.07 | RaydenUni | what mod is that? |
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| 01:07.09 | RaydenUni | i may try it |
| 01:07.13 | RaydenUni | although i'm really enjoying pitbull |
| 01:07.28 | RaydenUni | dangit |
| 01:07.30 | RaydenUni | dinner time |
| 01:07.34 | RaydenUni | i'm enjoying this conversation |
| 01:07.49 | Pkekyo | I'll be here when you return lol |
| 01:07.59 | Pkekyo | so will pretty much everyone |
| 01:08.05 | Pkekyo | all are on US time, pretty much, no? |
| 01:08.13 | [Liquidor] | Most but not all |
| 01:08.17 | [Liquidor] | I'm in EU |
| 01:08.17 | Pkekyo | I'm not |
| 01:08.29 | Pkekyo | 3.08am atm |
| 01:08.50 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44037 10TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0.lua: |
| 01:08.50 | CIA-22 | TheSocial-1.0: |
| 01:08.50 | CIA-22 | -Fix some drycode errors in the data scanning. |
| 01:08.58 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: http://i14.tinypic.com/61m0f48.jpg |
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| 01:13.12 | Pkekyo | there are only two styles of UIs nowadays, and they're both so fuckall extreme |
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| 01:13.48 | Pkekyo | either it's fucking bloated into oblivion, or there's nothing to look at at all >.< |
| 01:13.56 | rubik | haha |
| 01:14.39 | Pkekyo | seems like moderation was booted straight outta the dictionary |
| 01:14.52 | Shirik | ckknight's internet works in moderation |
| 01:15.13 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 01:16.10 | dodgizzla | I'm waiting for Avion to be released to I can kick out all those stupid text triggers |
| 01:16.18 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 07Kemayo * r44039 10AuldLangSyne/Sync/Sync.lua: AuldLangSyne: Make Sync module use TheSocial-1.0 events instead of hooks. |
| 01:16.25 | dodgizzla | It annoys the hell out of me when it says "HEROISM!!1" on my screen :o |
| 01:16.46 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: Of course there's something to look at. Why you think I'm playing a female draenei? :p |
| 01:16.51 | dodgizzla | I want a fullscreen red border, like Omen does when I have aggro :D |
| 01:16.59 | Diao | avion? |
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| 01:17.08 | dodgizzla | Diao: PowerAura revived and gone Ace |
| 01:17.12 | Diao | ah |
| 01:17.14 | Xuerian | Oh that was cool |
| 01:17.15 | Pkekyo | lmfao xuerian... |
| 01:17.17 | Xuerian | I used to use that :D |
| 01:17.34 | Diao | heroism doesn't have a visible icon? |
| 01:17.39 | dodgizzla | Sirow will probably release a version for public in the next days lawl :D |
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| 01:17.50 | dodgizzla | Diao: It has a buff icon |
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| 01:17.54 | Xuerian | sweet. |
| 01:17.59 | Diao | oh |
| 01:18.01 | Diao | no visible effect? |
| 01:18.09 | dodgizzla | But honestly I prefer some kind of less subtle notification that I should be pushing harder :D |
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| 01:18.22 | aen` | does eavesdrop have a way to hide the top/bottom footer on the window? |
| 01:18.26 | dodgizzla | Diao: You grow a bit and your hands glow white |
| 01:18.31 | Diao | oh |
| 01:18.37 | dodgizzla | Diao: As I said.. less subtle would be nice :D |
| 01:18.45 | Diao | sounds like all the warrior effects |
| 01:18.47 | Diao | :P |
| 01:18.57 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: It'd be cool if they added more ambient vfx to indicate buffs |
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| 01:19.19 | dodgizzla | I also want some notifivation when some +damage effect procs, e.g. Maggis eye, Nightbanes chest, or if I got Power Infusion |
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| 01:19.30 | Diao | whoa |
| 01:19.32 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: That's what (hopefully) Avion will do |
| 01:19.33 | Diao | just updated |
| 01:19.39 | Diao | and eqcompare is erroring left and right |
| 01:19.42 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: yeah, but not to your character model |
| 01:19.55 | Diao | or is it skinner |
| 01:19.56 | Diao | i can't tell |
| 01:20.12 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Yeah that sucks, but with some trickery it'll look okay most of the times |
| 01:20.31 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: I mean like a faint white aura for fort, a ethereal flower here or there for mark of the wild, a faint crown glow for int, etc, etc |
| 01:20.50 | Xuerian | Yeah, I'm looking forward to that |
| 01:20.57 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/70979 |
| 01:21.00 | Diao | anyone know how to fix that :o |
| 01:21.04 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Yeah would be nice. But they already said that they won't be tuning spells effect too much now |
| 01:21.13 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Sucks. |
| 01:21.14 | dodgizzla | But then again, they totally revamped some blessings :D |
| 01:21.16 | Pkekyo | "what we really are, is semi-civilized beasts with baseball hats and automatic weapons" ^^ |
| 01:21.26 | dodgizzla | I like that big "PURGE ME FFS" on Blessing of Protection :D |
| 01:21.27 | Diao | all the new effects are for pvp :( |
| 01:21.37 | Diao | "hi, please purge me" |
| 01:21.37 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Course each game has it's quirks they don't fix... like EVE launching missiles out any direction and shots not having a miss animation |
| 01:22.07 | dodgizzla | Diao: Just like Pain Suppression :> |
| 01:22.08 | Pkekyo | how 'bout retaliation? a fucking "run away"-sign |
| 01:22.26 | Pkekyo | or spell reflect? "stop casting and wait a second please" |
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| 01:22.34 | dodgizzla | Pkekyo: Funny thing is though, if you don't pay attention and never played a warrior.. you won't know what it means :D |
| 01:22.36 | Diao | anyone if someone knows how to fix that error |
| 01:22.37 | Diao | it would be great |
| 01:22.45 | Diao | eh |
| 01:22.48 | dodgizzla | Anyway.. that's what WitchHunt is for :D |
| 01:22.50 | Diao | a giant lighthouse on top of your head |
| 01:22.53 | Diao | of course it's obvious |
| 01:22.54 | Diao | lol |
| 01:22.55 | [Liquidor] | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3396/wowscrnshot071807031803fj3.jpg -- What do you think? |
| 01:22.56 | Pkekyo | dodgizzla: true, but not too many of those around anymore :< |
| 01:23.10 | RaydenUni | i'm back |
| 01:23.20 | dodgizzla | Pkekyo: I've got a rogue alt.. I always get annihilated by noob-crap like that :D |
| 01:23.33 | Pkekyo | Liquidor: when having an UI so fucking minimalistic, atleast get some artwork for it! :> |
| 01:23.46 | dodgizzla | I like that UI |
| 01:23.48 | RaydenUni | <Xuerian> RaydenUni: http://i14.tinypic.com/61m0f48.jpg <-- dranei should have been horde |
| 01:23.51 | Xuerian | I like it too |
| 01:23.58 | dodgizzla | Though I don't fancy the big unit frames |
| 01:24.00 | RaydenUni | and what exaclty are you showing me there? |
| 01:24.02 | aen` | does eavesdrop have a way to hide the top/bottom footer on the window? |
| 01:24.06 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Lol. Friend just said that to me earlier |
| 01:24.11 | [Liquidor] | dodgizzla, same but I SO don't know what to do with them -.- |
| 01:24.23 | dodgizzla | It's hard I know :D |
| 01:24.39 | Pkekyo | Liquor: it's fine, seriously, but get something to fill up the screen a bit! |
| 01:24.39 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: I actually liked the previous version better |
| 01:24.47 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: Why do you want the screen filled? |
| 01:24.55 | Xuerian | The ui is to help you control your character >_> |
| 01:24.55 | RaydenUni | i like minimilistic UI's |
| 01:24.59 | RaydenUni | unfortunately i like a lot of mods |
| 01:25.09 | RaydenUni | you need SWstats |
| 01:25.12 | RaydenUni | and Omen |
| 01:25.20 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:25.24 | RaydenUni | do mages have a need for classtimer? |
| 01:25.27 | Pkekyo | minimalistic is fine, but cramming everything tight together in one little corner or whatever...it's just fucking annoying to look at |
| 01:25.33 | break19 | ok, so call me a noob.. but does anyone know if *all* the hellfire instances give rep for kills, or if its just SH ? |
| 01:25.33 | [Liquidor] | well my ui isn't really minimalistic however I try to make it as minimal as possible but still having stuff shown |
| 01:25.34 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: yes |
| 01:25.39 | Xuerian | Mine isn't crammed. woot :D |
| 01:25.40 | Diao | ckknight, testing parrot now. in pvp when i get consecrated instead of sayign the player name it says ([Name]) 281 |
| 01:25.56 | Xuerian | It's amazing what removing actionbars does for your ui space >_> |
| 01:25.57 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: no, it's fucking invisible xD |
| 01:26.18 | Shirik | Xuerian: Makes it impossible to use? :D |
| 01:26.18 | Diao | same for all dots actually |
| 01:26.18 | [Liquidor] | well Pkekyo.... |
| 01:26.19 | RaydenUni | i should get rid of all my minimap icons |
| 01:26.29 | break19 | anyone? heh |
| 01:26.40 | Xuerian | Shirik: The six or so attacks I use on my target all the time I just memorize. The rest is done through clique |
| 01:27.00 | RaydenUni | [Liquidor] where do your party frames go? |
| 01:27.19 | Xuerian | Shirik: I have a lock at 32 (it's going to get harder...) and he has not a single in-combat spell slotted |
| 01:27.42 | [Liquidor] | This is me playing minimalistic: http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1918/minicj2.jpg |
| 01:27.47 | RaydenUni | Xuerian how do you know when cooldown is up? |
| 01:27.53 | dodgizzla | http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5279/natsumeuium2.png <- flame away :D |
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| 01:28.07 | [Liquidor] | I can go even smaller than that |
| 01:28.18 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: If it's a long cooldown, I might stick it on a sidebar. Otherwise I just memorize it. |
| 01:28.23 | break19 | RaydenUni: hourglass or quartzcd etc |
| 01:28.26 | Pkekyo | Liquidor: that'd drive me insane |
| 01:28.30 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: can use cooldown bars |
| 01:28.58 | dodgizzla | I wish though, that the proximity display in BigWigs gets some customization love :\ |
| 01:29.03 | RaydenUni | seems like having an icon with the cooldown on it would be easier to look at |
| 01:29.15 | RaydenUni | i've reduced my 29 rogue down to 2 bars |
| 01:29.19 | dodgizzla | It's just fucking huge |
| 01:29.22 | RaydenUni | alt mod for finishing moves |
| 01:29.36 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: For my druid, I have one bar, since I can't reliably hit past 7 |
| 01:29.39 | [Liquidor] | What about this one then?.... |
| 01:29.40 | [Liquidor] | http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1330/miniminiqv8.jpg |
| 01:29.45 | Pkekyo | dodgizzla: imo, your unitframe bar textures are fugly as hell, but other than that..fairly decent UI |
| 01:29.56 | Pkekyo | Liquidor: honestly? |
| 01:30.02 | Pkekyo | I'd cry |
| 01:30.08 | dodgizzla | Pkekyo: LiteStep Lite :D I used Charcoal/Aluminium for a while.. but meh :D |
| 01:30.21 | RaydenUni | dodgizzla i could deal with the buttons in the middle of the screen |
| 01:30.24 | Pkekyo | I've fallen in love with the otravi texxtures |
| 01:30.27 | Pkekyo | textures* |
| 01:30.30 | RaydenUni | otravi is nice |
| 01:30.36 | Xuerian | I like litesteplite >_> |
| 01:30.37 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: I also only press 1-5, and click from 6 onwards :D |
| 01:30.48 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_071007_230752.jpg <-- otravi right? |
| 01:30.54 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Goes from most used to least, so yeah that's about what I use |
| 01:31.14 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: yes...they're too "skinny" for me though |
| 01:31.20 | Xuerian | That has too much sharp height variation, the texture |
| 01:31.24 | RaydenUni | skinny? what is yours? |
| 01:31.32 | Pkekyo | also like these bar skins --> http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3263/wowscrnshot071707202142to4.jpg :> |
| 01:32.02 | dodgizzla | RaydenUni: I had the ItemRack buttons somewhere more centered, but they only got in the way when I was looting or clicking, so I moved them nearer to my action bars, where I click anyways :D Sometimes I resize them to 200% and move them up further in PvP because I constantly forget to use my insignia.. |
| 01:32.02 | RaydenUni | that has a nice edge |
| 01:32.05 | RaydenUni | to the lifebars |
| 01:32.06 | Pkekyo | http://i11.tinypic.com/6he00fm.jpg my UI, but the raid/partyframes aren't vissible :< |
| 01:32.46 | RaydenUni | i want to find a way to put my map down at the bottom in the middle, i like that look, but i don't know what to do with my action bars then |
| 01:32.54 | Pkekyo | my party frames are like... 1-1.5cm (hp only), and the raidframes about 7mm (we're talking height now) |
| 01:33.07 | dodgizzla | RaydenUni: left/right to the minimap then :D |
| 01:33.13 | Xuerian | http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4314/cairn66wt3.jpg is my druid ui. |
| 01:33.14 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: you had two bars, aye? one on each side |
| 01:33.21 | RaydenUni | maybe |
| 01:33.30 | RaydenUni | if i ever want to click on something then the area i click on is much bigger |
| 01:33.55 | dodgizzla | I think I'll hack something in to Prat now.. my chat annoys me to no extent |
| 01:34.01 | Pkekyo | true...tbh, I hate clicking...I only click the macros I use to spam tradechannel xD |
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| 01:34.10 | RaydenUni | i'ma fire it up and mess with it |
| 01:34.17 | RaydenUni | i like using buttons |
| 01:34.21 | RaydenUni | keyboard i mean |
| 01:34.24 | Pkekyo | i have three actionbars on any class |
| 01:34.29 | RaydenUni | but something rarely used skills require a mouse |
| 01:34.31 | Pkekyo | stacked ontop of eachother |
| 01:35.01 | Pkekyo | tbh, only thing I use a mouse for is changing stances and movement |
| 01:35.13 | RaydenUni | i have no screens of my shadow priest |
| 01:36.39 | RaydenUni | so i recently discovered some mod i have has a thing called waypoint |
| 01:36.48 | Diao | cartographer? |
| 01:36.49 | RaydenUni | lets me set a waypoint and then shows me an arrow |
| 01:36.52 | RaydenUni | you guys know what does that? |
| 01:36.52 | Xuerian | Cart, /way x y |
| 01:36.55 | RaydenUni | is it cart? |
| 01:37.00 | Diao | yes |
| 01:37.03 | RaydenUni | controls i saw was /waypoint x,x |
| 01:37.08 | Diao | argh |
| 01:37.15 | Xuerian | or ctrl-right click on the map and set waypoint |
| 01:37.15 | Diao | parrot isn't interpreting the [Name] tag correctly apparently |
| 01:37.15 | RaydenUni | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.15 | binder | I think he's joking |
| 01:37.16 | Diao | for dots |
| 01:37.35 | sylvanaar | whoever did the corpse arrow is god, i love that |
| 01:37.46 | Xuerian | I want to say that was Mikk |
| 01:37.46 | RaydenUni | i do'nt think mine does that |
| 01:38.06 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.09 | NeoTron | it's really useful |
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| 01:44.02 | Pkekyo | how the fuck do you serve three consecutive life sentences plus two death sentences? O.o |
| 01:44.30 | Xuerian | I guess it accounts for unforseen necromancy |
| 01:44.59 | Pkekyo | reroll hinduism maybe? |
| 01:45.40 | Pkekyo | first...they lock you up 'till you die....THREE TIMES.... |
| 01:45.40 | Pkekyo | and THEN they kill you...TWICE.... |
| 01:45.40 | Pkekyo | wonder what that judge had been smoking |
| 01:46.08 | Wobwork | Well... |
| 01:46.10 | Wobwork | Life... isn't =P |
| 01:46.12 | Xuerian | IT'S PUFF PUFF PASS! |
| 01:46.22 | Xuerian | Dammit. |
| 01:46.36 | Pkekyo | hell no, that judge couldn't have passed anything for a couple of years |
| 01:46.38 | Wobwork | (PS, I did the corpse arrow =P) |
| 01:46.51 | Xuerian | I get you two confused |
| 01:47.00 | Xuerian | Then I remember you're the more zany one |
| 01:47.02 | Xuerian | :) |
| 01:47.04 | Pkekyo | I get myself confused :> |
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| 01:48.31 | Xuerian | And the one on my old server. |
| 01:48.37 | sb | mhhhm |
| 01:49.02 | sb | Slider frames in wow - how can i turn them around? default is 0 = top, i want to have 0 = bottom!? |
| 01:49.29 | Pkekyo | http://static.nettby.no/communities/b/h/f/bhfri/photos/humor00028.jpg ahah |
| 01:50.00 | Xuerian | XD |
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| 01:50.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 01:50.28 | Pkekyo | hahah, gotta love George Carlin talking about scarfing x) |
| 01:50.50 | Wobwork | Xuerian: You switched to scryers? =( |
| 01:51.06 | Xuerian | Wobin: No, I switched to Arathor |
| 01:51.11 | Wobwork | aw |
| 01:51.15 | Wobwork | AD is the place to be! |
| 01:51.18 | Xuerian | Cousins dragged me there, my guild was dead, most of my friends were horde |
| 01:51.47 | Xuerian | And Arathor is a endgame pve, so people are assholes and instances don't happen |
| 01:53.06 | Diao | argh |
| 01:53.13 | Diao | i can't find a way to stop the eqcompare errors since last updaet |
| 01:53.16 | Diao | update* |
| 01:53.58 | Xuerian | tekkcompareftw? |
| 01:54.22 | Pkekyo | I got no errors with eqcompare, but prat and cList2 seems to be highly fucked up |
| 01:54.40 | Arrowmaster | stop using eqcompare? |
| 01:54.41 | aen` | how do i make a macro to unequip my current wep? |
| 01:55.40 | Arrowmaster | didnt i clearly make a post in the eqcompare thread saying that the addon should be avoided in 2.0 because of how it works compared to some of the newer better mods like tekkompare |
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| 01:56.09 | Diao | oh |
| 01:56.11 | Diao | i don't read the thread |
| 01:56.12 | Diao | lol |
| 01:56.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:56.15 | Xuerian | ... |
| 01:56.26 | Xuerian | ~suicide |
| 01:56.27 | purl | ACTION kills herself Juliet style, after seeing xuerian commit suicide |
| 01:56.36 | Arrowmaster | i mean it was one of the major causes of the 'omg every time i try to use a macro i get an error that ace2 has done something illegal' posts on the forums till i fixed it |
| 01:56.46 | Diao | oh |
| 01:56.51 | Diao | i don't use macros usually |
| 01:57.07 | Arrowmaster | and nobody is even updating eqcompare anymore, since its a dead mod |
| 01:57.43 | Diao | ah |
| 01:58.25 | Pkekyo | eqcompare is dead? err..anything spawned out of the ashes yet then? |
| 01:58.31 | [Liquidor] | Xuerian, don't do it ! :(( |
| 01:58.41 | QQngsk | Pkekyo, hold shift while mousing over an item |
| 01:58.43 | [Liquidor] | Pkekyo, Shift + Mouse |
| 01:58.46 | Arrowmaster | yes tekkcompare |
| 01:58.51 | Diao | but holding shift is annoying :P |
| 01:58.52 | Arrowmaster | tekkompare |
| 01:59.12 | Diao | .. |
| 01:59.13 | [Liquidor] | Don't listen to Arrowmaster, just ignore him and read what we say: Shift + Hover |
| 01:59.15 | Diao | i deleted eqcompare |
| 01:59.18 | [Liquidor] | !! |
| 01:59.19 | Diao | and installed tekkompare |
| 01:59.28 | Diao | and now i get massive errors |
| 01:59.33 | Diao | lol |
| 01:59.40 | Pkekyo | damn you both, now I've gotta start wow to see if it works! xD |
| 01:59.43 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/70980 x500 right now |
| 01:59.49 | Pkekyo | Liquidor: how does that work with item links? |
| 02:00.12 | [Liquidor] | Diao, got nothing to do with tekkcompare I believe |
| 02:00.14 | Arrowmaster | hmm wtf |
| 02:00.33 | [Liquidor] | Pkekyo, it doesn't. |
| 02:00.52 | Pkekyo | well then I need something else now, don't I..? |
| 02:00.54 | [Liquidor] | One of the reasons you need EQCompare or TekkCompare as Arrowmaster says |
| 02:01.14 | Pkekyo | TekkCompare ace? |
| 02:01.18 | Xuerian | No |
| 02:01.20 | Xuerian | it doesn't need to be |
| 02:01.25 | Xuerian | Tiny frigging mod |
| 02:01.29 | Xuerian | no frigging ace >_o |
| 02:01.32 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44040 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua: Recount - Can now lock select items in the detail window by clicking on them in the upper portion which also allows you to report the lower details |
| 02:01.42 | Diao | ok nm |
| 02:01.43 | Diao | i guess it's cowtip |
| 02:01.52 | [Liquidor] | EQCompare - 5 Days - n/a - Conpare equipped inv...... |
| 02:01.52 | Pkekyo | no frigging ace = no frigging happening |
| 02:01.52 | Pkekyo | I'm sticking with eqcompare |
| 02:01.57 | [Liquidor] | Someone _is_ updating it tho |
| 02:02.00 | Cryect | why? |
| 02:02.10 | Xuerian | It's written by tekkub |
| 02:02.12 | Cryect | Just because its not ace doesn't mean its bad |
| 02:02.18 | Cryect | a lot of stuff doesn't need ace |
| 02:02.19 | Diao | laziness factor |
| 02:02.20 | Arrowmaster | try tekkompare from http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 02:02.36 | [Liquidor] | Yes |
| 02:02.43 | Diao | lack of WAU is enough to motivate some people |
| 02:02.45 | [Liquidor] | As I've been repeating all evening... Try tekkcompare !! |
| 02:02.47 | Diao | to not use non-ace addons |
| 02:02.47 | Diao | lol |
| 02:02.49 | [Liquidor] | Don't listen to Arrowmaster |
| 02:03.26 | Cryect | haha |
| 02:03.49 | [Liquidor] | Time in US? |
| 02:03.50 | Pkekyo | has nothing to do with WAU |
| 02:03.50 | Pkekyo | but when I've finally gotten a 100% ace UI I'm not gonna fuck it up over one addon that I don't really need |
| 02:03.55 | Xuerian | ... |
| 02:03.56 | [Liquidor] | ...Eastern |
| 02:03.57 | Xuerian | you know |
| 02:04.03 | Xuerian | Ace doesn't mean better |
| 02:04.11 | Pkekyo | I know |
| 02:04.13 | Pkekyo | but still |
| 02:04.21 | Pkekyo | it's 100% ace |
| 02:04.23 | [Liquidor] | still what? |
| 02:04.24 | Pkekyo | it'll stay 100% ace |
| 02:04.43 | Diao | eastern is 10pm |
| 02:04.51 | [Liquidor] | Xuerian, you're quite an emotional fella :) |
| 02:04.59 | Pkekyo | when there is an ace alternative in existence that works fine, I'm not gonna go grab a non-ace addon |
| 02:05.00 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@csw159.cs.nthu.edu.tw) |
| 02:05.12 | Shirik | why |
| 02:05.15 | Shirik | do you have a good reason for that? |
| 02:05.36 | Shirik | never mind I'm not getting into this |
| 02:05.38 | Pkekyo | if refering to me: read what I just said |
| 02:05.45 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: I am having a bad week. |
| 02:05.52 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: In a slightly better month. |
| 02:05.58 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: In a bad year. |
| 02:06.07 | [Liquidor] | ...so on.... ? |
| 02:06.23 | Xuerian | Not really. |
| 02:07.04 | [Liquidor] | Btw how come Waterfall has to look so fugly? More and more ace addons are using it :-/ |
| 02:07.13 | Xuerian | Why does it matter if it's fugly or not? |
| 02:07.19 | Xuerian | It's a configuration screen. |
| 02:07.36 | Xuerian | (Granted, the entries could expand to fit the window, but yeah...) |
| 02:08.03 | [Liquidor] | My eyes are closing, going to bed. (4am here) |
| 02:08.12 | Xuerian | 'night, [Liquidor] |
| 02:08.21 | [Liquidor] | nn over there |
| 02:08.33 | Pkekyo | g'nite Liquidor |
| 02:08.33 | RaydenUni | why is pitbul mirroring my party pet changes to the party? |
| 02:08.44 | RaydenUni | i can't change size, scale, etc on pets without it happening on the party members |
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| 02:12.37 | Benumbed | ckknight: PING! |
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| 02:13.01 | Benumbed | found bug in parrot |
| 02:13.45 | Benumbed | When Underbog Colossus hits you with its acid spray, says <Name> - 400 |
| 02:13.58 | Pkekyo | http://www.speedyshare.com/121407206.html ^^ |
| 02:14.39 | Diao | yes Benumbed |
| 02:14.42 | Diao | it happens with all spells |
| 02:14.43 | Diao | lol |
| 02:14.59 | Benumbed | not like that it doesnt |
| 02:15.05 | Pkekyo | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ykpRruJzClg =D |
| 02:15.07 | Diao | it happens to me with all dots |
| 02:15.14 | Diao | always says ([Name]) -dmg |
| 02:15.18 | Benumbed | weird |
| 02:15.18 | Diao | instead of the actual name |
| 02:15.25 | Benumbed | never noticed it on other dots |
| 02:15.51 | Diao | well i was testing in pvp |
| 02:16.02 | Benumbed | i know he fixed the scalding water |
| 02:17.46 | Diao | mm |
| 02:17.48 | Diao | i dunno |
| 02:17.54 | Diao | maybe it's the cross server thing |
| 02:18.04 | Benumbed | scalding water was because it had no source |
| 02:18.08 | Diao | but it says ([Name]) |
| 02:18.19 | Benumbed | so if added if no source, Unknown |
| 02:18.20 | Diao | when i get consecrated, SWP'd, CoA/corruption/immolated, etc |
| 02:18.32 | Benumbed | not sure |
| 02:18.36 | Diao | but i've been getting massive errors with anything related to dogtag recently |
| 02:18.45 | Benumbed | dont rememeber the spray doing this last week |
| 02:18.49 | RaydenUni | oh no! |
| 02:18.50 | NightHawkTheSane | oy.. "Cocktail waitress #1: Ew! They can do that?! [A few minutes later] Where is Washington state? Cocktail waitress #2: I think it's near Seattle..." |
| 02:18.58 | RaydenUni | i just spent the last half hour adjusting my interface, then CRASH |
| 02:19.07 | Benumbed | l2reloadui |
| 02:19.13 | Benumbed | after each mod set =P |
| 02:21.03 | RaydenUni | augh it forgot everything |
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| 02:23.18 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44041 10Assessment/Modules/Aura.lua: Assessment: Aura now watches current fight by default |
| 02:24.53 | break19 | i need 840 more sunfury signets to hit exalted with scryers. and I *just* hit revered... |
| 02:25.44 | Trancer | world of grindcraft says hi2u |
| 02:26.02 | kenlyric | bah! mine, herb, AH. |
| 02:26.09 | kenlyric | nvRgrind |
| 02:27.55 | Trancer | kenlyric: or just be an enchanter and never leave the AH <> Mailbox path ;-) |
| 02:28.55 | Megalon | enchanter/jewelcrafter yea |
| 02:28.57 | Pkekyo | ahahaha |
| 02:28.57 | Pkekyo | http://youtube.com/watch?v=txalsgU_5sk&mode=related&search= |
| 02:28.57 | Pkekyo | watch it, seriously |
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| 02:30.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 02:31.35 | Cryect | btw anyone curious what the new death graph looks like in recount here's a pic http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/Recount/detail2.jpg |
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| 02:33.17 | PProvost | Very nice Cryect |
| 02:33.39 | PProvost | Is that in the tree? |
| 02:33.43 | Chompers | awesome |
| 02:34.30 | Wobwork | Cryect: woo |
| 02:34.31 | kergoth | oooh |
| 02:34.33 | kergoth | thats sexy |
| 02:34.38 | Chompers | moar graphs |
| 02:34.42 | Wobwork | I can finally figure out who killed me with shatter =) |
| 02:35.39 | Mikk | "<idiot>'s shatter cunts you for 5k" in the combat log? =) |
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| 02:35.50 | kergoth | woot, my hunter got his sonic spear |
| 02:35.53 | kergoth | and he's 69, cant use it yet |
| 02:35.56 | kergoth | i /hate/ that |
| 02:36.02 | fireglow | :D |
| 02:36.22 | Xuerian | Cryect: Nice |
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| 02:37.30 | Pkekyo | congrats kergoth |
| 02:37.51 | Shirik | yeah I got that on my first run through |
| 02:37.55 | kergoth | hmm, what enchant, savagery? |
| 02:37.57 | kergoth | nice |
| 02:37.59 | Shirik | my guild was like "wtf that never happens to me" |
| 02:38.02 | kergoth | lol |
| 02:38.03 | Shirik | yeah I used savagery |
| 02:38.07 | Shirik | it's definitely the way to go |
| 02:38.09 | Cryect | PProvost: yeah |
| 02:38.46 | PProvost | Anything special to pop it up? |
| 02:39.12 | Cryect | select death mode in the main window (either via arrows or right clicking the title) click a name to bring up death details |
| 02:39.31 | PProvost | k |
| 02:39.46 | PProvost | I'll check in out in a few... updating nwo. |
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| 02:42.25 | Pkekyo | crap, it's not even 5am yet |
| 02:42.55 | RaydenUni | fubar_swstats |
| 02:43.02 | RaydenUni | is it just a fubar icon for swstats? |
| 02:43.05 | RaydenUni | or is it actually swstats? |
| 02:43.21 | RaydenUni | and doesn't swstats come with a fubar thing now? |
| 02:44.49 | Diao | yes, no, no |
| 02:46.21 | RaydenUni | how do i get swstats to not display on minimap? |
| 02:47.59 | ckknight | Diao: hrm, lemme see how MSBT handles that, hang on |
| 02:48.24 | Diao | ok |
| 02:48.59 | Diao | also, http://ace.pastey.net/70980 floods my bugsack |
| 02:49.05 | Diao | after latest update D: |
| 02:49.20 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r44042 10beql/ (locales/localization-ru.lua tracker.lua): |
| 02:49.20 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 02:49.20 | CIA-22 | - Updated ruRU locale |
| 02:49.20 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Quest Zone not removed from tracker if delivered |
| 02:51.13 | ckknight | Diao: last update to Skinner maybe? |
| 02:51.20 | Diao | could be |
| 02:51.27 | Diao | i just open WAU and hit f10 |
| 02:51.27 | Diao | lol |
| 02:52.03 | Diao | yeah it probably is |
| 02:52.09 | Diao | M /trunk/Skinner/UIElements1.lua |
| 02:53.11 | RaydenUni | what is the HUD mod? |
| 02:53.18 | Diao | icehud? |
| 02:54.29 | RaydenUni | icehud vs archud? |
| 02:54.59 | Mikk | both work |
| 02:55.12 | RaydenUni | differences? |
| 02:55.38 | Mikk | find out |
| 02:56.11 | Mikk | i was running archud pre 2.0, then it didn't get updated for 2.0 so i switched to icehud |
| 02:56.16 | Mikk | never really missed anything |
| 02:56.31 | ckknight | Diao: Skinner has a bug, then |
| 02:56.42 | RaydenUni | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8406/yummehdw4.jpg |
| 02:56.43 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 02:57.07 | Diao | ok |
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| 02:57.25 | Mikk | yeah i doubt icehud can do that shit |
| 02:57.28 | Mikk | i don't miss it :S |
| 02:58.05 | RaydenUni | some guy was suggesting it for icehud |
| 02:58.22 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1705.msg48193 |
| 02:59.03 | RaydenUni | icehud wiki on wowace is gone |
| 03:00.15 | ulic | check archive.org, then you can restore it :) |
| 03:01.23 | RaydenUni | can you actually log in to those? |
| 03:01.30 | RaydenUni | because when i try it tells me i have to login to edit |
| 03:01.50 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: ArcHUD > IceHUD imo... |
| 03:02.00 | RaydenUni | why? |
| 03:02.09 | RaydenUni | i don't have an account to edit it... grr |
| 03:02.15 | Pkekyo | just like the look and feel better :> |
| 03:02.38 | RaydenUni | too much work to register |
| 03:02.58 | Bayi | registration is easy :) |
| 03:03.09 | RaydenUni | it would have to send me an email, then i'd have to check my email |
| 03:03.12 | RaydenUni | lots of work |
| 03:03.17 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 03:04.51 | ulic | oh ye,a you'd have to make a wiki account |
| 03:05.28 | ulic | but the reward is that you're contributing member of the community :) |
| 03:05.54 | Neebler | bleh, pitbull was giving me massive lag in raids so I just decided to redo my whole UI http://neebler.tetro.net/newUIx.jpg |
| 03:06.11 | Neebler | kinda blah, what should I add/change in it |
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| 03:07.18 | Pkekyo | what's with EVERYONE having those fucking gradients nowadays? |
| 03:07.26 | Neebler | replace newUIx with oldUIx |
| 03:07.43 | Neebler | pkekyo, been using those gradients since EEpanels was released |
| 03:08.02 | Pkekyo | that might be so, but now EVERYONE is using them |
| 03:08.42 | Mikk | everyone bothering to do screenshots of their UIs maybe :P |
| 03:08.45 | dylanm | I think it's kinda nice if you can get the colors and placement right. There's more to visual organization than just fitting all of the information on your screen. |
| 03:09.01 | break19 | Neebler: 82fps? you make me sick |
| 03:09.20 | Neebler | 5 year old PC. radeon 9800pro |
| 03:09.27 | break19 | even sicker |
| 03:09.34 | Kyahx | correction, people have been using gradients since Haste did something with them :P |
| 03:09.45 | break19 | 2yr old mac laptop. im lucky to get 30fps by myself.. :p |
| 03:09.54 | Neebler | LOLMAC! |
| 03:10.01 | break19 | if theres lots of stuff around me, it hovers at the 24fps |
| 03:10.08 | break19 | dude.. its got 32M of vram.. heh |
| 03:10.13 | dylanm | I mean it's a laptop. |
| 03:10.28 | break19 | if I had a desktop system, it wouldnt be a problem :p |
| 03:10.47 | break19 | dylanm: its not just a laptop.. its their low-end laptop. :) |
| 03:10.51 | break19 | ibook g4 |
| 03:11.19 | dylanm | Solid machine. |
| 03:11.26 | Pkekyo | hmm...passed 5am now :> |
| 03:11.41 | break19 | but I got more important things to pay for than a new comp... like a mortgage. |
| 03:12.40 | break19 | and since I havent yet started my new job, and the wife is on strict orders from the doc to not work... its not a good time to get a real machine heh |
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| 03:12.59 | ckknight | break19: pregnant or something? |
| 03:13.13 | break19 | ckknight: ya, and she's considered high risk |
| 03:13.35 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 03:13.38 | ckknight | well, congrats |
| 03:13.42 | ckknight | any idea on who the father is? |
| 03:13.43 | ckknight | jk |
| 03:13.48 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 03:13.53 | Pkekyo | aye, congrats break19 |
| 03:13.53 | break19 | dont congrats me yet.. its our 5th try. :/ |
| 03:13.58 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 03:14.03 | Xuerian | Well.. Hope it sticks? |
| 03:14.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44043 10Aloft/Modules/Alpha.lua: |
| 03:14.08 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 03:14.08 | CIA-22 | - Made "profile" a local variable |
| 03:14.09 | break19 | 2 stillborn, rest miscarriages |
| 03:14.11 | ckknight | all you can do, really |
| 03:14.13 | Pkekyo | better hope it works out then, so you can start training that goldfarmer soon |
| 03:14.21 | break19 | the fun is in the tryin :p |
| 03:14.38 | ckknight | just think, all that sex for nothing. |
| 03:14.48 | break19 | heh |
| 03:15.03 | Pkekyo | I thought that was the general idea of sex? O.o |
| 03:16.21 | Pkekyo | you can hardly call having 'all that sex for nothing' a sacrifice tbh... |
| 03:16.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44044 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 03:16.41 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - turn on [Name] for DoTs/HoTs |
| 03:16.41 | CIA-22 | - for DoTs/HoTs that are throttled and have multiple names, it will turn [Name] into "Multiple". |
| 03:16.48 | ckknight | Diao: please test that |
| 03:16.56 | Pkekyo | ckknight: what's Parrot? |
| 03:17.09 | ckknight | Pkekyo: combat text |
| 03:17.26 | ckknight | test it out, you might like it |
| 03:17.30 | Pkekyo | combat text like sct or combatlog? |
| 03:17.32 | Xuerian | Side effect. Mostly it's for eating your crackers. |
| 03:17.42 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44045 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Aura.lua): |
| 03:17.42 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 03:17.42 | CIA-22 | - Added Buff/Debuff color type for auras |
| 03:17.42 | CIA-22 | - Removed warning in .toc |
| 03:17.44 | ckknight | SCT |
| 03:17.49 | Pkekyo | well, I has many crackers |
| 03:18.05 | Wobwork | PS yay for pizza day |
| 03:18.10 | ckknight | yea, being a combat text addon is merely a side effect of the massive cracker-eating |
| 03:18.13 | Wobwork | My boss is springing for pizza for lunch |
| 03:18.17 | ckknight | cool |
| 03:18.24 | Xuerian | Sweet. |
| 03:18.28 | Pkekyo | pizza day? share! |
| 03:18.33 | break19 | oh, im having a weird issue while in BGs.. seems like one of my addons is trying to /who my raid party members... which of course returns "no such person" .. likely culprits Auldlangsyne? Prat? pitbull? |
| 03:18.36 | Wobwork | So we're getting pizzas from the gourmet pizza place down the road |
| 03:19.05 | Kemayo | break19: AuldLangSyne doesn't do anything to your party members. Have an error message? |
| 03:19.25 | break19 | deductive reasoning leads me to believe its prat.. no error messages other than the spam of no such person |
| 03:19.25 | Pkekyo | can't imagine it'd be auldlangsyne tbh...prat has been screwing me over lately with whispers...pitbull I don't know... |
| 03:19.27 | ckknight | break19: not PitBull |
| 03:20.14 | Pkekyo | life should be like music videos tbh |
| 03:20.27 | Pkekyo | only hot chicks, and they never run out of chips or beer |
| 03:20.35 | break19 | my guess is, i have prat set up to show levels of people in text, if it knows the level.. but I didn't know it would send a /who to find out if it didnt, the expected behavior would be not show a level |
| 03:21.11 | RaydenUni | ok new interface layout |
| 03:21.15 | Pkekyo | break19: prat has never shown this behaviour before, and should not utilize the /who function if you don't trigger it manually |
| 03:21.26 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_071707_201909.jpg <-- feedback? |
| 03:21.28 | Pkekyo | that feature in prat is generally based on mouseover and such afaik |
| 03:21.36 | RaydenUni | and also now the scroll wheel doesn't zoom the camera |
| 03:21.37 | break19 | Pkekyo: well *something* is.... |
| 03:21.39 | RaydenUni | i installed archud... |
| 03:21.41 | RaydenUni | i think that's it |
| 03:21.45 | Neebler | feedback: start over! |
| 03:22.23 | RaydenUni | could archud make my camera not zoom? |
| 03:22.37 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: no need to have party pets tbh, takes way too much space...now that you have archud, enable 3d portrait (if desired) and get rid of your regular player/target frames |
| 03:22.40 | Pkekyo | no it could not |
| 03:22.44 | break19 | RaydenUni: recheck keybindings.. |
| 03:22.58 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo i want to see if i like archud before i get rid of unitframes... |
| 03:23.01 | RaydenUni | i like the big fat bars |
| 03:23.02 | Pkekyo | break19: I think it's prat that's screwing you over, but not that function |
| 03:23.21 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo my main is a priest and occasionally i heal in parties, so pets is kind of nice |
| 03:23.26 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: I like big fat bars as well, but only on party/raid members :> also: I always remove mana/energy/raid bars |
| 03:23.32 | RaydenUni | but i may only enable them for that char |
| 03:23.41 | RaydenUni | i turned those off for raid |
| 03:23.53 | RaydenUni | now i got 40 little boxes |
| 03:24.02 | Pkekyo | I die a little inside every time I see someone saying "heel my pet plz" |
| 03:24.14 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: me too :> |
| 03:24.20 | Wobwork | boxes made of ticky tacky? |
| 03:24.21 | RaydenUni | i do'nt usually heal pets, but sometimes i'm full on mana and i can spare a renew |
| 03:24.41 | break19 | oh, and another thing.. for some reason /way g-guildie is saying it cant find the person.. even tho I can see their dot on the map, so I know they've got the guild positions enabled. |
| 03:24.42 | RaydenUni | somehow this feels a lot cleaner than what i had before |
| 03:24.57 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: tbh, lose the backdrops on the unitframes, and lose the border on that damagemeter-thing as well |
| 03:25.05 | RaydenUni | backdrops? |
| 03:25.07 | Wobwork | hm |
| 03:25.15 | Wobwork | I'm not sure why it'd suddenly not work, break19.. |
| 03:25.19 | RaydenUni | i do'nt know if swstats lets you get rid of the window |
| 03:25.33 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: the dark transparent thingies around and under the bars themselves |
| 03:25.34 | break19 | Wobwork: hasnt worked for a while, just remembered to bring it up.. |
| 03:25.49 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: not the window, only the border (ugly gray piece if shite) |
| 03:26.37 | Pkekyo | interesting placement of chat frames as well |
| 03:26.39 | Wobwork | break19: Maybe I'll remove the functionality. it was fairly hacky to begin with |
| 03:26.55 | RaydenUni | i've always put chat in bottom left, but liquido put his up there and itl ooked kind of nice |
| 03:27.04 | RaydenUni | certainly allows for putting the minimap where it is |
| 03:27.14 | break19 | Wobwork: actually, I was hopin for a fix.. I used it all the time when it worked. :p |
| 03:27.19 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:27.19 | RaydenUni | everything i need to see is at the botto of the screen |
| 03:27.24 | Wobwork | okay I'll look into it |
| 03:27.44 | Pkekyo | tbh, I'd rather have chats on either side if the minimap and actionbars over or below that :> |
| 03:28.08 | break19 | even when partied with the same person.. since, for some reason. the p- prefix never updates when the person moves.. just stays at the same location they were at when ya set the waypoint. |
| 03:28.08 | Pkekyo | -which in turn would mean getting rid of player/target unitframes |
| 03:28.38 | Wobwork | hm |
| 03:29.48 | break19 | Wobwork: no real rush or anything on it.. it was a timesaver, especially if we're in outlands and they were cross-zone... I could hit the flyin mount and head straight to em.. shortest distance is a straight line. :) |
| 03:30.18 | kergoth | what's the usual tip on an enchant? |
| 03:30.31 | break19 | kergoth: depends on the enchant, really |
| 03:30.49 | break19 | and how cheap/generous the tipper is |
| 03:30.52 | RaydenUni | how do you get rid of the border on swstats Pkekyo ? |
| 03:31.07 | RaydenUni | and the background for pitbull? |
| 03:31.49 | break19 | RaydenUni: you dont.. you can, however, change the border to be the same color as the window, which would give the appearance of no border.. |
| 03:31.49 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: sorry, but I don't know...never used it (never got it to work that is) |
| 03:31.49 | Pkekyo | as for pitbull: I wouldn't know, as I'm sticking to ag_UF myself |
| 03:32.15 | kergoth | hmm, k |
| 03:32.21 | break19 | I might go back to aguf, just not sure if I can set it up like I have pitbull.... |
| 03:32.21 | Diao | ok, will test when i relog :o |
| 03:32.43 | Pkekyo | break19: show me how your pitbull is |
| 03:33.05 | Pkekyo | kergoth: tbh, always ask the enchanter for a price BEFORE getting the enchant :> |
| 03:33.10 | RaydenUni | pitbull seems at least as customizable as aguf |
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| 03:33.26 | RaydenUni | kergoth as an enchanter, i would say tip nicely |
| 03:33.28 | break19 | sec. playin tug o war with my dog.. |
| 03:33.40 | RaydenUni | it's much harder to find enchanting clients as you can't sell them on the AH like you can with every other profession |
| 03:33.43 | break19 | damn shes strong. heh |
| 03:33.45 | RaydenUni | and very expensive |
| 03:33.51 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: might be, I simply don't know it :> |
| 03:33.55 | break19 | ok. lemme find my screenie I took a while back |
| 03:34.54 | Pkekyo | anyone seen Children of the Corn? |
| 03:35.13 | Pkekyo | that's some freaky shit! |
| 03:35.36 | RaydenUni | i don't see a way to color the border of swstats |
| 03:35.36 | break19 | http://i11.tinypic.com/4qx7pu8.jpg |
| 03:36.03 | RaydenUni | expecting a lot of debuffs on the target? |
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| 03:36.23 | RaydenUni | what did you want that you do'nt know how to do? |
| 03:36.40 | break19 | hm? |
| 03:36.59 | break19 | Pkekyo wanted to see how I had my pitbull layed out.. so I showed him. |
| 03:37.03 | RaydenUni | you said you were going to go back to aguf because pitbul couldn't do it |
| 03:37.06 | Pkekyo | not sure how much you can move around the 3d portrait with ag_UF, I never saw a reason to even try, other than that: yeah, you can do that with ag_UF |
| 03:37.44 | break19 | RaydenUni: not what I said.. I said I may go back to aguf, but wasnt sure if I could make it look my pitbull layout |
| 03:38.18 | Pkekyo | break19: give me 5min, and I'll log and see what I can do with the 3d portrait in ag_UF after I get some coffee |
| 03:38.30 | break19 | Pkekyo: if I'm in a raid, all 40 chars will appear in the same location as the current party |
| 03:38.56 | break19 | i dont remember, does aguf even have raid frames? |
| 03:39.22 | art3mis | yup |
| 03:39.33 | art3mis | its just like all the others without the pictures;P |
| 03:39.33 | break19 | kk |
| 03:39.40 | art3mis | i'd use perfectraid personally |
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| 03:40.31 | break19 | http://i13.tinypic.com/4zw6juu.jpg is my raid setup |
| 03:40.37 | Pkekyo | break19: yes it does |
| 03:40.38 | art3mis | okay so for anyone that cares mepis 6.5 x64 running the kernel64 from the boot menu supports embedded media |
| 03:40.41 | art3mis | out of the box |
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| 03:41.02 | Pkekyo | break19: you're gonna have one hell of a job to set that raid up, but sure, you can do it |
| 03:41.03 | art3mis | AND its 6 lines to make the ati driver work and do 20k in gears |
| 03:41.33 | art3mis | if it was gnome instead of kde that would be rad |
| 03:41.48 | art3mis | so here's my new question |
| 03:42.07 | break19 | Pkekyo: I had a hell of a job settin it up like this.. so I am prepared for it.. just didnt want to install it and work for a few hours and go "shit.. I cant do it the way I want" |
| 03:42.23 | art3mis | using kde and unable to use beryl because of comapt issues with fglrx how do i get 3d effects like the box flipping compiz? |
| 03:42.52 | break19 | but that'll have to be tomorrow.. Im goin to bed.. the wife just did, and if I dont join her, I'll be fighting the dogs for the couch |
| 03:43.10 | Pkekyo | what time is it stateside now? |
| 03:43.29 | ZealotOnAStick | depends |
| 03:43.35 | break19 | 1043pm or 2243(CDT) |
| 03:43.41 | ZealotOnAStick | It's about 11:45 eastern |
| 03:43.47 | kebinusan | is there some /script command you can use to acecpt a rez if the rez box doesnt show? |
| 03:43.50 | art3mis | pkek whatcha using for casting? |
| 03:43.57 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 03:44.03 | art3mis | ken:just relog |
| 03:44.07 | Pkekyo | 11.45pm? |
| 03:44.10 | art3mis | err keb |
| 03:44.13 | Pkekyo | art3mis: what you mean? |
| 03:44.28 | Wobwork | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.55 | art3mis | well in that screenie you've got like 6 buttons |
| 03:45.02 | art3mis | surely you use morethan just 6 ;) |
| 03:45.19 | Pkekyo | could you post me the screenie? |
| 03:45.38 | art3mis | oh my bad |
| 03:45.40 | art3mis | it was break |
| 03:45.45 | art3mis | i scanned names too quick |
| 03:46.58 | Pkekyo | yeah, I suspected that...I have...err...36 buttons at the ready iirc |
| 03:47.34 | Pkekyo | break19 still here? |
| 03:47.41 | Wobwork | he went to bed |
| 03:47.57 | Pkekyo | damnit...oh well... /msg is the pm command, no? |
| 03:48.42 | Wobwork | as long as you're registered |
| 03:48.59 | Pkekyo | registered? |
| 03:49.06 | Wobwork | with nickserv |
| 03:49.19 | Pkekyo | aw shit, there's aaaaaaalways something |
| 03:49.22 | Pkekyo | you registered? |
| 03:49.26 | kenlyric | ping hyperChipmunk: fixitfixitfixitfixit |
| 03:49.28 | Wobwork | aye |
| 03:49.40 | Wobwork | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.19 | Pkekyo | could you pm break19|Zzzz for me and tell him I got a player frame almost or even completely identical to his to work with ag_UF? |
| 03:50.19 | ZealotOnAStick | god Mulverick is pissing me off. |
| 03:50.30 | Pkekyo | /msg nickserv register bsmisund |
| 03:50.40 | Pkekyo | guess not lol |
| 03:50.58 | Pkekyo | who's mulverick? what did he do? |
| 03:54.31 | NightHawkTheSane | mulverick did your mom. |
| 03:54.58 | kenlyric | to be fair, everyone has done his mom |
| 03:55.05 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: well, yes. |
| 03:55.40 | Pkekyo | not possible to change the skin of the top bar on Violation? |
| 03:56.43 | RaydenUni | so after a quick BG using my new layout, it's nice |
| 03:56.51 | RaydenUni | but having text on the top of the screen makes it hard to scan the horizon |
| 03:56.56 | art3mis | so |
| 03:57.02 | RaydenUni | i didn't realize how much i use the top for my long distance vision |
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| 03:57.13 | art3mis | anyone have an answerfor 3d effects destkop support like beryl only not beryl? |
| 03:57.13 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_071707_201909.jpg <-- layout |
| 03:57.29 | RaydenUni | didn't beryl join with the only competitor? |
| 03:57.39 | art3mis | beryldoesnt work right with fglrx |
| 03:57.47 | art3mis | is it compwiz thats the other one? |
| 03:58.07 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: try it without the unitframes and give it some time to get used to the HUD :> |
| 03:58.45 | RaydenUni | i need to figure out what the bars are for |
| 03:58.51 | RaydenUni | which is me, which is target |
| 03:59.17 | RaydenUni | compizhttp://compiz.org |
| 03:59.19 | RaydenUni | oops |
| 03:59.20 | RaydenUni | http://compiz.org |
| 03:59.44 | RaydenUni | maybe i'll put text on tpo of my bars |
| 04:01.36 | Diao | ckknight |
| 04:01.38 | Diao | it works now |
| 04:01.40 | Diao | thanks :D |
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| 04:04.09 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r44046 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua: |
| 04:04.09 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 04:04.09 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 04:04.36 | Diao | one request |
| 04:06.30 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: this is how you do that: first, stand without a target...bars showing = you...then target a rand om player, and see what additional bars are added...try with different classes etc, you'll get the hang of it soon enough |
| 04:06.47 | Pkekyo | it's still tuesday in the states, no? |
| 04:07.29 | kenlyric | just became wednesday in eastern time zone. |
| 04:07.32 | kenlyric | but, mostly tuesday. |
| 04:07.51 | Pkekyo | so, your servers are still up? |
| 04:08.05 | Pkekyo | euro servers are being restarted now iirc |
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| 04:10.04 | Diao | ckknight: is it possible to add support for [Spell] as well for the damage so i can see what type of damage hit me instead of just who |
| 04:11.24 | ckknight | [Skill] |
| 04:11.38 | ckknight | it's already in |
| 04:11.47 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_071707_210946.jpg <-- moved party and text placement |
| 04:12.11 | Pkekyo | lmfao...just saw some aldor company gun down their commander in shatt x) |
| 04:12.25 | Diao | oh |
| 04:12.26 | Diao | ok thanks |
| 04:12.48 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: works better, I'd imagine...get rid of the chat backdrop though...and I still find those huge unitframes disturbing as hell :p |
| 04:15.15 | RaydenUni | i may change |
| 04:15.20 | RaydenUni | i targetted some people |
| 04:15.26 | RaydenUni | only shows me a blue bar left of my green one |
| 04:16.06 | Pkekyo | iirc, that would be their health |
| 04:16.23 | Pkekyo | when in combat, there should be a blue/red/yellow bar on the right of your energybar as well |
| 04:16.23 | RaydenUni | which means it's not displaying mana/power |
| 04:16.30 | RaydenUni | oh, only in combat? |
| 04:16.34 | Pkekyo | think so, yes |
| 04:16.48 | Pkekyo | no need to display a full mana pool on someone you're not fighting |
| 04:17.44 | RaydenUni | hostile targets? or when in combat? |
| 04:17.52 | RaydenUni | i would like to see mana of someone in BG even if i'm not in combat |
| 04:18.44 | Pkekyo | I can't really remember, but atleast I see their health and mana/rage/energy bar when I need it |
| 04:18.56 | aen` | http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8682/wowscrnshot071707184131px6.jpg |
| 04:19.32 | aen` | doesnt really have the border on eaves drop, but theres a deadspace on the bottom of the frame, it actually is touchin against the minimap, is there a way to hide that? |
| 04:19.32 | Pkekyo | I *love* the idea of perfect raid...too bad it doesn't fit all too well with my taste in UI styles :< |
| 04:20.28 | Pkekyo | don't know, but have to complement you on removing the border..good choise :> |
| 04:20.33 | Wobwork | mmm |
| 04:20.36 | Wobwork | pizza lunch |
| 04:20.36 | Pkekyo | what's that addon in your upper left corner btw? |
| 04:20.41 | RaydenUni | removing bordero nwhat? |
| 04:20.48 | aen` | the eavesdrop window |
| 04:20.51 | RaydenUni | looks like a quest thing |
| 04:20.56 | Pkekyo | aye, but which one? |
| 04:20.56 | RaydenUni | which one is eavesdrop? |
| 04:21.08 | Pkekyo | eavesdrop: combatlog-ish thingie on the right side |
| 04:21.20 | aen` | topleft is nQuestLog |
| 04:21.20 | RaydenUni | looks jut like battlechat |
| 04:21.43 | Pkekyo | pretty much same shit, different wrapping, I'd imagine |
| 04:22.04 | Pkekyo | aen`: possible to change the color of the text? |
| 04:22.10 | Pkekyo | - on the quest thing, that is |
| 04:22.13 | aen` | Pkekyo: on the quest mod? |
| 04:22.16 | aen` | yes |
| 04:22.16 | Wobwork | xfiles 2? |
| 04:22.17 | Wobwork | http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=2427dc52-0027-4a74-b66b-2668270b1890 |
| 04:22.33 | jme | argh |
| 04:22.40 | jme | i'm getting stuck on Authenticating trying to login |
| 04:22.45 | jme | X |
| 04:22.47 | jme | :X |
| 04:22.54 | jme | forum login works |
| 04:23.11 | Neebler | aen`: why no SWP or vamp embrace? |
| 04:23.20 | Neebler | rather, why not use them |
| 04:23.38 | aen` | i do |
| 04:23.43 | aen` | the fight was about over |
| 04:23.46 | Pkekyo | why doesn't the search function of WAU work for jack shit? :< |
| 04:25.07 | ckknight | Wobwork: yea, that's been known for a while |
| 04:25.10 | NightHawkTheSane | because you touch yourself at night |
| 04:25.35 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: I'm too busy during night to touch myself...that's what I reserve my days for |
| 04:26.05 | jme | success! |
| 04:26.20 | Pkekyo | aen`: btw, pretty much loves your UI except from a few minor features...well done! :> |
| 04:26.41 | Pkekyo | why no FuBar btw? |
| 04:26.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: its still night somewhere. ;) |
| 04:26.47 | aen` | i do have fubar |
| 04:26.49 | aen` | its hidden |
| 04:27.22 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: shut your piehole |
| 04:27.26 | Pkekyo | aen`: where? |
| 04:27.29 | Pkekyo | and how? |
| 04:27.29 | aen` | top |
| 04:27.41 | aen` | auto-hide top panels |
| 04:27.51 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 04:28.46 | Pkekyo | forgot about that feature, as it could never work for me ^^ |
| 04:28.56 | Pkekyo | http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000548.html :> |
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| 04:29.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: can't, too busy eating pie. |
| 04:30.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44047 10Parrot/ (CombatEvents.lua Display.lua ScrollAreas.lua): |
| 04:30.30 | CIA-22 | Parrot_ScrollAreas - add some basic options |
| 04:30.30 | CIA-22 | - allow for overriding of fonts |
| 04:30.30 | CIA-22 | - added a test and a test sticky option. I'm gonna say that it's at least 57% pimper than SCT's or MSBT's respective tests. |
| 04:31.21 | Pkekyo | only the tests that's 57% pimper? :< |
| 04:31.30 | Pkekyo | get the rest of it pimper as well keke |
| 04:32.35 | ckknight | the tests are much better than SCT's or MSBT's |
| 04:32.53 | ckknight | because it basically prints out the military alphabet, going from Alpha to Zulu and wrapping |
| 04:33.02 | Pkekyo | OMFG GEIF |
| 04:33.04 | ckknight | while also cycling through colors |
| 04:33.15 | Pkekyo | well done :> |
| 04:33.21 | ckknight | so that you can get a real impression of what it looks like |
| 04:33.33 | ckknight | instead of just seeing "Preview message" over and over, or "SCT" over and over |
| 04:33.49 | ckknight | also, it allows you to test both sticky and non-sticky, which neither SCT nor MSBT allow |
| 04:33.54 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44048 10Recount/ (Recount.lua WindowOrder.lua): Recount - Can now lock/unlock all of recounts windows with "/recount lock" |
| 04:34.15 | Pkekyo | sounds nice tbh |
| 04:34.20 | RaydenUni | ckknight what mod? |
| 04:34.31 | ckknight | Parrot |
| 04:35.04 | RaydenUni | new scrolling text mod? |
| 04:35.46 | jme | Cryect: sup |
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| 04:36.43 | ckknight | yep, RaydenUni |
| 04:36.47 | ckknight | test it out |
| 04:38.03 | Cryect | jme: yep |
| 04:38.22 | Diao | lol |
| 04:38.30 | RaydenUnicyclist | is the blizzard one limited? |
| 04:38.51 | Diao | limited? |
| 04:38.54 | Cryect | haha |
| 04:39.00 | RaydenUnicyclist | i've never used it |
| 04:39.03 | Cryect | thats an understatement |
| 04:39.04 | Pkekyo | it's made by blizzard...should say enough |
| 04:39.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | k |
| 04:39.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | i have MSBT right now |
| 04:39.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | what reason to change? |
| 04:39.44 | Cryect | more pimps |
| 04:40.11 | aen` | its a ckknight mod, need you have any other reason? |
| 04:40.22 | ckknight | 57% more pimp |
| 04:40.33 | Diao | lol |
| 04:41.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44049 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - whenever you change an option for scroll areas (font, etc.) it'll shoot off a test message automatically, to show you the result. |
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| 04:45.20 | art3mis | hehe as a ckk mod it means it started as a scrolling textmod and will expand to cover EVERYTHING text related ;P |
| 04:45.30 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 04:45.32 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 15h 54m 20s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 04:45.35 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:45.40 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 04:45.48 | cncfanatics | can someone help me with waterfall issues? |
| 04:47.27 | Pkekyo | what is waterfall? |
| 04:47.35 | Pkekyo | everyone's talking 'bout it nowadays |
| 04:47.37 | ckknight | config library |
| 04:47.40 | aen` | config lib |
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| 04:48.35 | cncfanatics | and its buggy atm heh |
| 04:48.39 | Pkekyo | layman's terms? :> |
| 04:51.36 | Pkekyo | gotta love how someone smoking at the shitter triggers a firealarm and interrupts a concert >.< |
| 04:51.53 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/70983?lang=lua |
| 04:52.12 | cncfanatics | the :Debug function in the addcontrol's changedfunc always returns nil |
| 04:52.21 | cncfanatics | which means waterfall doesnt pass me any arguments for some reason |
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| 04:59.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44050 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - add options for reverse direction animation style, and alignment. |
| 04:59.46 | cncfanatics | quit |
| 04:59.52 | QQngsk | nooo |
| 04:59.52 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 04:59.55 | cncfanatics | forgot the slash |
| 05:00.34 | ckknight | Gngsk: ? |
| 05:01.29 | Gngsk | I didn't want cncfanatics to leave |
| 05:01.51 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44051 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: checking the wrong whisper message to make invite links |
| 05:02.56 | Pkekyo | meh, I'd wish I was in america atm >.< |
| 05:03.46 | Pkekyo | so that being awake at these hours would make some fucking sense >.< |
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| 05:06.45 | Pkekyo | ~whalecrit Godzmack_ |
| 05:06.46 | purl | ACTION crits Godzmack_ with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Godzmack_ dies |
| 05:07.02 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 05:09.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: maybe being awake at these hours would make sense, but everything else would be insanity : |
| 05:09.21 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 05:10.12 | Pkekyo | well, atleast one less thing would be defined as insanity in my life... |
| 05:10.54 | Pkekyo | *rather: I'd finally have one aspect of my life that wouldn't be defined as insanity |
| 05:11.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44052 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua ScrollAreas.lua): Parrot_ScrollAreas - change height to size |
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| 05:11.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | woot woot |
| 05:11.57 | RaydenUnicyclist | 40HK in WSG |
| 05:12.15 | Mudkipz | is kergoth around? |
| 05:12.39 | Pkekyo | I think he popped zZz a while ago...not sure though |
| 05:12.44 | Mudkipz | oh |
| 05:12.51 | Mudkipz | Does anyone use pidgin? |
| 05:13.00 | Pkekyo | haven't heard anything outta him for quite some time atleast |
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| 05:14.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkipz: I do at work, maybe i can answer your questions.. |
| 05:14.54 | Mudkipz | let me get a screenshot |
| 05:15.10 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: possible to get purl to share links like it does whalecrits? :> |
| 05:15.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: what do you mean? |
| 05:15.32 | Pkekyo | ~whalecrit |
| 05:15.33 | purl | ACTION crits <who> with a mathematically challenged whale named Oscar for #NaN |
| 05:15.45 | Pkekyo | possible to do the same thing, but get purl to pop a link instead of the whalecrit? |
| 05:16.38 | Wobwork | er? |
| 05:16.39 | NightHawkTheSane | er, probably. You can define a trigger in purl, so that when you someoene types ~foo or whateve, it'll give a certain response. |
| 05:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | like.. |
| 05:16.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ~framexml |
| 05:16.46 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 05:16.55 | Pkekyo | yeah, that's what I'm trying to ask about :> |
| 05:17.08 | Pkekyo | was wondering if it allowed links or not (which it apparently does) |
| 05:17.24 | NightHawkTheSane | basically, just do "purl, <triggerText> is <stuff you want purl to say>" |
| 05:17.35 | Pkekyo | ~modern |
| 05:17.52 | Pkekyo | the triggertext can't have any spaces..? |
| 05:18.00 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i'm aware |
| 05:18.11 | NightHawkTheSane | and there's some clever voodoo you can do with tags to make purl do an action or use parameters and such, but I really don't know that too well. I bet you could google for it. |
| 05:18.22 | Pkekyo | purl, modernman is George Carlin - http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000548.html |
| 05:18.23 | purl | okay, Pkekyo |
| 05:18.28 | Pkekyo | ~modernman |
| 05:18.29 | purl | i heard modernman is George Carlin - http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000548.html |
| 05:18.32 | kebinusan | ~rule34 |
| 05:18.37 | NightHawkTheSane | And doing "~literal <triggertext>" will tell you literally what a trigger does. |
| 05:18.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ~literal modernman |
| 05:18.42 | purl | "modernman" is "George Carlin - http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000548.html" |
| 05:18.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44053 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Display.lua): Parrot_AnimationStyles - now sticky is passed in |
| 05:18.49 | kebinusan | apparently purl doesnt know about rule34 |
| 05:18.50 | NightHawkTheSane | ~literal whalecrit |
| 05:18.50 | purl | "whalecrit" is "<action> crits <who> with a mathematically challenged whale named Oscar for #NaN" |
| 05:19.03 | kebinusan | ~whalefu |
| 05:19.04 | purl | Whalefu is an ancient irc fighting style of unknown origin that was mastered and extended by Neronix |
| 05:19.04 | Pkekyo | cool :> |
| 05:19.05 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Fisker- |
| 05:19.05 | purl | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs Fisker- |
| 05:19.11 | Fisker- | btw madness |
| 05:19.17 | kebinusan | ~listkeys whale |
| 05:19.25 | art3mis | a hotmal account? |
| 05:19.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whalelemmings Fisker- |
| 05:19.32 | purl | ACTION 's jaw drops as an army of lemmings escape the mouth of a rather sizeable whale named Remus. The army tramples Fisker- |
| 05:19.55 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 05:19.56 | kebinusan | ~whaleflurry NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:19.57 | purl | ACTION unleashes a flurry of slaps at NightHawkTheSane using Gilbert - the ideal whale for the job |
| 05:20.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whaleparry |
| 05:20.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whalecounterattack |
| 05:20.17 | kebinusan | gotta use a name |
| 05:20.20 | kebinusan | ~whaleparry kebinusan |
| 05:20.21 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry kebinusan's attacks. |
| 05:20.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whalecounterattack kebinusan |
| 05:20.22 | purl | ACTION responds by unleashing a flurry of blows with a indescribably enormous killer whale named Nathaniel upon kebinusan. |
| 05:20.30 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah yeah |
| 05:20.38 | NightHawkTheSane | its late, i'm tired ;) |
| 05:20.59 | NightHawkTheSane | and I'm idly trying to decide if I like the Zend studio IDE |
| 05:21.13 | Mudkipz | did you get the tell NightHawkTheSane ? |
| 05:21.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkipz: no? |
| 05:21.31 | Mudkipz | ha okay |
| 05:21.32 | NightHawkTheSane | are you registered/identified with nickserv? |
| 05:21.42 | Mudkipz | oh |
| 05:21.49 | Mudkipz | wow I got my nick back |
| 05:22.03 | Mudkipz | someone registered <---- so I replaced it with an S |
| 05:22.44 | Mudkips | I guess not |
| 05:23.22 | Mudkips | Did that one work? |
| 05:23.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 05:24.32 | Fisker- | sparta? |
| 05:25.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkips: I'd poke around in the preferences, or look for some menu item that indicates editing your status messages |
| 05:25.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44054 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua ScrollAreas.lua): Parrot_ScrollAreas/AnimationStyles - add separate options for normal reverse and sticky reverse |
| 05:26.00 | Fisker- | ~mudkips |
| 05:26.32 | Mudkips | The movie away messages came from "away" when I typed it under as I set the away. I wasn't created as a saved message |
| 05:26.46 | Mudkips | it* |
| 05:27.17 | Fisker- | purl, literal mudkips |
| 05:28.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkips: when you were typing them, was there a checkbox that said "save" or something? I'm not at work right now, so I can't really poke around and look, unfortunately :\ |
| 05:28.42 | Mudkips | haha. Well one of them disappeared when I restarted pidgin but the other one still persists |
| 05:28.55 | Mudkips | No there was no "save" |
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| 05:30.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44055 10Parrot/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot_AnimationStyles - make the Left and Right parabolas bend more |
| 05:34.46 | Neebler | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184735923654.jpg |
| 05:35.29 | Mudkips | do not want |
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| 05:37.18 | Codayus | Hmm, anyone got a list of the RGB color codes for the different classes handy? :-) |
| 05:38.03 | ckknight | Codayus: /print RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 05:38.38 | Codayus | Hmm, yeah, that'd work. >< |
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| 05:41.44 | RaydenUnicyclist | how do i get pitbull to display the flag icon for BG? |
| 05:41.48 | RaydenUnicyclist | when someone is carrying it? |
| 05:42.30 | Fisker- | do want |
| 05:42.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44056 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - make menus sane |
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| 05:52.38 | FrostByghte | omg, ads in the wowace updater? |
| 05:52.55 | Xuerian | omg, server bills? |
| 05:54.05 | Diao | rayden that's a buff |
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| 05:54.11 | Diao | it won't show for enemies |
| 05:55.46 | FrostByghte | well with intellitext ads, the 160x600 on the site, plus paypal donations, I would wager the server bills are well covered :) |
| 05:56.56 | ckknight | you wager wrong |
| 05:57.27 | ckknight | paypal donations are scant at best, and the ads on the site don't cover all of it |
| 05:57.43 | FrostByghte | that's weird...are you chaining ad networks? |
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| 05:58.55 | ckknight | you'll have to talk to Kaelten for specific details |
| 05:59.58 | FrostByghte | ah well....the latest wowupdater just shocked me is all...my apologies |
| 06:04.25 | loonacy | So what would it take to get CowTip to have buff/debuff icons? (Mostly just want to see how many Sunders are on my mouseover) |
| 06:04.38 | Wobwork | >< |
| 06:04.38 | Wobwork | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Conras/screenshot050907040157un3.jpg?t=1184725169 |
| 06:04.54 | Wobwork | 7hours =P |
| 06:05.41 | Silviu- | Wobwork wtf :/ |
| 06:05.52 | ckknight | loonacy: um, a hundred bucks would go over nicely |
| 06:06.11 | jme | lol |
| 06:06.19 | Silviu- | 1 mil dmg |
| 06:06.20 | Silviu- | lol |
| 06:06.27 | Silviu- | 2 almost actually |
| 06:06.38 | loonacy | Okay, who wants to go buck hunting? |
| 06:07.10 | jme | Wobwork: uh... wow |
| 06:07.40 | Silviu- | Wobwork don`t tell me u was in that team :) |
| 06:07.55 | ckknight | resto druid vs. holy pally? |
| 06:10.41 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r44057 10WeaponRebuff/ (9 files): |
| 06:10.41 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 06:10.41 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.41 | CIA-22 | -> Placement Options of text |
| 06:10.41 | CIA-22 | -> Button/Frame creation code moved from xml to lua |
| 06:10.42 | CIA-22 | -> Db changes, file structure changes, other jiggery-pokery |
| 06:11.57 | Wobwork | hehe not me, no |
| 06:12.17 | Wobwork | ckknight: and yeah, most likely =) |
| 06:13.08 | starlon | ~lazy |
| 06:13.09 | purl | hmm... lazy is "Hard work my pay of later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Working hard at hardly working!" |
| 06:13.19 | starlon | ~laziness |
| 06:13.19 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 06:15.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44058 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua ScrollAreas.lua): Parrot_ScrollAreas/AnimationStyles - make offsetY the middle instead of the bottom. |
| 06:21.19 | Mecdemort | How do you guys organize the addons locally as you work on them? do you just keep the svn-linked (verbage?) folder inside the addons directory or do you have it somewhere else etc. |
| 06:23.28 | Xuerian | Checked out to the addons folder. |
| 06:26.43 | abyssichate | Is there a way to edit the font style of WAU log? The font it's being there really sucks |
| 06:26.46 | abyssichate | +used |
| 06:28.50 | Benumbed | sweet, dont do like i just did |
| 06:29.08 | loonacy | I tried clicking one of the ads in WAU, but it tried to open IE. No way I'm going to an unknown site in IE, thankyouverymuch. |
| 06:29.19 | Benumbed | accidently went to wow......kiki instead of wow.....wiki and tried to give me keylogger |
| 06:29.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44059 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - add a configMode thingy which allows the scroll areas to be dragged around and periodically outputs a test message. |
| 06:29.34 | Benumbed | so imo dont go there (why i put .... so ppl didnt accidently click to go) |
| 06:29.57 | Wobwork | http://www.tailoredmusic.com/songs/ |
| 06:29.59 | Wobwork | omg =P |
| 06:33.27 | ckknight | that's pretty sweet |
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| 06:36.27 | pastamancer | ~seen jjsheets |
| 06:36.29 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 74d 5h 43m 50s ago, saying: 'bluntmaster. sounds like a funny name for a pot smoking dope fiend. :)'. |
| 06:36.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44060 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - tweaks |
| 06:36.36 | pastamancer | bah |
| 06:37.05 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, jjsheets has disapeared :( |
| 06:37.05 | Mecdemort | ok if i've already edited addons without their being SVNd, is there a way to checkout to that directory and have it keep the changes? Sorry for the noob questions im just trying to get this all set up. |
| 06:37.11 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 06:37.12 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 17h 46m ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 06:37.29 | pastamancer | does that mean I have to make commits to infinibar myself? |
| 06:37.41 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, I guess so, think noone is maintaining it atm |
| 06:37.51 | pastamancer | yoink |
| 06:37.52 | cncfanatics | I'm working on FB now though, but that'll take a while |
| 06:39.48 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, could you maybe help me with something ? |
| 06:39.51 | pastamancer | sure |
| 06:39.57 | cncfanatics | I'm having some issues with waterfall |
| 06:40.15 | pastamancer | oh, the width issues you were talking about earlier today? |
| 06:40.26 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 06:40.28 | cncfanatics | those are fixed |
| 06:40.48 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/70986 |
| 06:40.53 | cncfanatics | when I change that text button |
| 06:41.00 | cncfanatics | the :Debug function returns nil |
| 06:41.13 | cncfanatics | which leads me to think that there's a bug in waterfall |
| 06:41.17 | cncfanatics | but I'd like to be sure :p |
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| 06:42.39 | pastamancer | that looks strange, but then again I just feed aceoptions tables to waterfall |
| 06:42.47 | pastamancer | do you really want get to return ""? |
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| 06:44.02 | Lyfe | can anyone tell me if there's features in CTRaid that cannot be found in say, a typical unitframe like pitbull and a boss mod like bigwigs? |
| 06:44.11 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r44061 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua): InfiniBar - UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED can happen without UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP. |
| 06:44.42 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, I want the text to be empty when the waterfall is open yes, its a text field to create new buttons |
| 06:44.48 | cncfanatics | the problem is the changedFunc |
| 06:44.57 | cncfanatics | the debug function returns nil on the ... |
| 06:45.05 | ckknight | Lyfe: don't think so... |
| 06:45.25 | Lyfe | ckknight: ok, thanks. |
| 06:45.29 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: I don't know enough about waterfall to help you then. I think you can do what you're trying with normal aceoptions and an execute entry |
| 06:45.38 | pastamancer | doesn't CTRA do item and durability checks? |
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| 06:46.09 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, I can do that bit with aceoptions yes, but not everything I want :p |
| 06:46.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44062 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - add size as an option |
| 06:46.21 | cncfanatics | I do think changedFunc is buggy though, i'm pretty sure about it |
| 06:46.30 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: try using just setfunc instead of changedfunc |
| 06:46.43 | cncfanatics | I need both :) |
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| 06:48.37 | pastamancer | can't help you then |
| 06:49.11 | cncfanatics | I really need nargiddley on then, bleh |
| 06:49.18 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 06:49.32 | omega | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:50.08 | ckknight | omega: odd, that's handled be SEAura and all, which I thought was airtight |
| 06:50.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44063 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - save to the DB now. |
| 06:50.57 | Arrowmaster | somebody was messing with SEEA and buff refreshing i think |
| 06:51.44 | pastamancer | the buff refreshing should be separate events and shouldn't be affecting anything though |
| 06:51.58 | omega | ckknight: I can check again tonight, with latest then, but it was saying I lost all bufs, and gained all buffs, so the middle frame was scrolling like crazy sometimes |
| 06:52.10 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:52.24 | ckknight | odd |
| 06:52.28 | omega | indeed |
| 06:52.29 | Elkano | ck, what are you coding this time? ;) |
| 06:52.33 | ckknight | Parrot |
| 06:52.40 | ckknight | it eats crackers |
| 06:52.46 | ckknight | and functions as a floating combat text addon |
| 06:53.00 | Benumbed | ckknight, dunno if you saw but parry was messing up with dots |
| 06:53.11 | ckknight | howso? |
| 06:53.20 | Benumbed | was getting <Name> |
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| 06:53.45 | Benumbed | was getting it on mob that does acid spray dot |
| 06:53.55 | ckknight | already fixed |
| 06:53.58 | Benumbed | said so in here and another said was getting same thing |
| 06:54.06 | Benumbed | ok, guess i didnt update |
| 06:54.41 | Benumbed | druids shapeshifts move? like cat form is 3 on a 70, but its 2 on a 29 |
| 06:55.17 | Arrowmaster | they have a set order |
| 06:55.38 | Arrowmaster | the reason its 2 on the 29 is because that 29 is a lazy fuck and never did the aquatic form quest |
| 06:55.40 | Benumbed | yeah aqua is 2 |
| 06:55.58 | Benumbed | hey now! its an old bg twink of mine =P |
| 06:56.08 | Arrowmaster | lazy fuck! |
| 06:56.11 | Benumbed | lol |
| 06:56.35 | Benumbed | new epic flight is 6 right? |
| 06:56.39 | Benumbed | and slow flight is 5 |
| 06:56.41 | cncfanatics | nah its 13387 |
| 06:56.45 | Wobwork | hm |
| 06:56.46 | cncfanatics | s/13387/1337/ |
| 06:56.48 | Arrowmaster | i think the epic replaces the normal |
| 06:56.52 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 06:56.52 | Wobwork | does anyone remember that 'generic love song'? |
| 06:56.59 | Wobwork | it was a parody of boyband songs |
| 06:57.02 | Arrowmaster | my druids only lvl 31 |
| 06:57.02 | ckknight | epic replaces normal |
| 06:57.18 | Benumbed | kk |
| 06:57.21 | Arrowmaster | not sure where treeform and owlform fit in |
| 06:57.26 | pastamancer | Benumbed: ah, but if someone managed to avoid getting aquatic form, they'd all be shifted over IIRC |
| 06:57.30 | Benumbed | seems tree is 4 |
| 06:57.44 | pastamancer | I don't think you can rely on them being specific numbers |
| 06:57.45 | Arrowmaster | travel should be 4 |
| 06:58.34 | Arrowmaster | i would think the talents are 5 and the flight would be the last one always, not sure though |
| 06:59.23 | Benumbed | yeah your right, 4 is travel |
| 06:59.24 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:59.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44064 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - add option to make a new scroll area. |
| 06:59.29 | cncfanatics | as u can't have both anyway |
| 06:59.33 | Benumbed | 5 is flight |
| 06:59.43 | Lysithea | sigh, anyone know what's cauing wow to freeze when I join battlegrounds? third time now |
| 07:01.20 | Mecdemort | could be unit frame addon, i think thats what most people are saying |
| 07:02.01 | Benumbed | so whats a good program to scan for keyloggers, onecare said it found one, 1 sec after i went to kiki, instead of wiki |
| 07:02.13 | Lysithea | using aguf, guess Ill check if the latest commit fix it |
| 07:02.30 | Mecdemort | hyjackthis! http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/programs.php |
| 07:02.45 | Fisker- | http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5011/madnessyousayrh5.jpg <-MADNESS |
| 07:02.50 | Mecdemort | but be careful, it lists almost everything running, not just bad things |
| 07:03.56 | Benumbed | tricky sob, it unchecked my "remember username" so i would have to type it |
| 07:05.25 | ckknight | Fisker-: it's no fun when you cheat |
| 07:05.35 | Fisker- | who says i was cheating?! |
| 07:05.49 | Fisker- | Just because my units perk's continue off the screen? |
| 07:05.50 | Fisker- | :D |
| 07:05.55 | ckknight | future tech while everyone else is in ancient as well as massive gold |
| 07:06.11 | Fisker- | look at the unit :P |
| 07:06.33 | ckknight | ah |
| 07:06.34 | ckknight | I see |
| 07:06.37 | ckknight | lots of upgrades |
| 07:07.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44065 10Parrot/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - make it so the dewdrop/waterfall menus don't totally mess up. |
| 07:07.26 | ckknight | alright, I'm done for now |
| 07:07.30 | syeren | Good. |
| 07:07.33 | syeren | I was just about to bitch :P! |
| 07:07.42 | ckknight | bitch how? |
| 07:07.55 | syeren | I was trying to leave my WAU as late as possible! |
| 07:08.04 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:08.09 | Fisker- | "Eat my crackers" = safe to use? :P |
| 07:08.29 | ckknight | well, you will have an invariable lowering of your total cracker count |
| 07:08.32 | ckknight | but that's inevitable |
| 07:08.47 | Fisker- | i hate crackers so that's alright |
| 07:08.48 | Iceroth | and if i have 0? |
| 07:09.03 | ckknight | well, then I doubt the Parrot would be too happy |
| 07:09.04 | Fisker- | Iceroth universe ceases to exist |
| 07:09.30 | Iceroth | hm, i didn't like that place anyway |
| 07:10.13 | Pkekyo | g'mornin peeps |
| 07:13.10 | syeren | Parrot is looking really good right now ckknight :D |
| 07:13.19 | ckknight | yep :-) |
| 07:13.22 | syeren | How can I decide where the crits appear? They don't seem to move :p |
| 07:13.31 | Wobwork | http://www.neimeyer.org/schooling/Music/TitleSong.mp3 |
| 07:13.44 | Wobwork | title of the song! |
| 07:13.48 | Wobwork | Naieve expression of love! |
| 07:13.55 | Wobwork | Reluctance to accept that you are gone! |
| 07:14.11 | Wobwork | (Best metasong on earth) |
| 07:14.58 | Wobwork | Request to turn back time! |
| 07:15.02 | Wobwork | To rectify my wrongs |
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| 07:15.08 | Wobwork | Repeitition of the title of the song |
| 07:15.38 | ckknight | lol, Wobwork |
| 07:16.18 | Elkano | hmm... you are codingthis since 2 weeks and I didn't notice yet? :/ sucks to mot be able to play :/ |
| 07:16.28 | syeren | ckknight, is it possible to do what I asked? |
| 07:16.35 | ckknight | what was that? |
| 07:18.58 | syeren | ckknight, I discovered a problem already >_> |
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| 07:22.25 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r44066 10NBuffBars/ (15 files in 4 dirs): NBuffBars: Initial revision; incomplete |
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| 07:23.13 | jme | Wobwork: that rules |
| 07:23.22 | Wobwork | I know ^^ |
| 07:23.46 | Wobwork | ~/ Modulation, and then I hold a high nooooooooote... /~ |
| 07:23.51 | jme | lol |
| 07:24.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44067 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - make moving the boxes save position |
| 07:26.45 | RaydenUnicyclist | so turtling in WSG sucks |
| 07:26.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | just left the game after 1 hour and alliance had made their first cap |
| 07:27.46 | Azurewrath | Your Alliance isn't always turtling? |
| 07:27.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | either they uber-twink us like made and we get 1 kill |
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| 07:28.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | or they are all newbs and we have more twinks so we rock |
| 07:28.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | but i've had a few decent games |
| 07:28.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | never a turtle as bad as this |
| 07:28.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | 8 of them would sit in their base around the flag carrier |
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| 07:28.39 | jme | RaydenUnicyclist: i need to find you a thread of the 2.5 hour WSG from my realm then |
| 07:28.48 | Azurewrath | that's normal for us.. lvl 70 Warsong though |
| 07:28.48 | RaydenUnicyclist | this will probably rival it |
| 07:28.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | 53 minutes in 0-0 |
| 07:28.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | this is 29 |
| 07:29.05 | jme | heh |
| 07:29.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | as a rogue i find it is my duty to get the flag back. i'm getting pretty good at it i think |
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| 07:29.33 | RaydenUnicyclist | but i can't take on 3 guys, much less 8 and especially not when the EFC is a pally |
| 07:29.39 | Azurewrath | our Alliance gets 0:1 and starts defendings with almost everything then.. oh and they drink pots like Water.. bah |
| 07:30.28 | RaydenUnicyclist | it was 0-0 and they were already turtling |
| 07:30.45 | RaydenUnicyclist | the other day i fought a rogue i could not hit |
| 07:30.51 | RaydenUnicyclist | i don't think i hit him once that game |
| 07:30.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | the warriors loved it though |
| 07:31.28 | Azurewrath | huh? |
| 07:31.42 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r44068 10NBuffBars/ (. libs/ locales/ textures/): NBuffBars: add externals and log template |
| 07:31.47 | Rayden | he had a ridiculous amount of dodge |
| 07:31.56 | Rayden | i looked him up on armory, 46% or something |
| 07:32.07 | Rayden | must have had some other buffs too because i couldn't hit him |
| 07:32.17 | Azurewrath | hehe |
| 07:32.19 | Rayden | but warriors have something where everytime your target dodges you attack them or something |
| 07:32.53 | Azurewrath | jup.. Overpower or something.. don't know exactly tbh |
| 07:33.23 | Azurewrath | but i love dodge rogues who activate evasion to escape my spells ;) |
| 07:33.53 | Rayden | http://www.wowwiki.com/Overpower |
| 07:34.20 | Azurewrath | mhm.. is files.wowace.com down or is it just my shitty office line? |
| 07:34.34 | nevcairiel | works for me |
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| 07:35.15 | Rayden | works for me |
| 07:35.24 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44069 10Links/Links.lua: Links: Add an option to automatically show the comparison windows |
| 07:35.55 | Azurewrath | must be the line then.. guess someone sends a big email or something, the remote to my IRC-box is slow too.. |
| 07:36.06 | Azurewrath | i just hate 1024/128 adsl lines.. |
| 07:37.18 | nevcairiel | Whats Links? |
| 07:38.37 | Rayden | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070717/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_germany_computer |
| 07:38.38 | Rayden | lol |
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| 07:39.42 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:40.47 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 07:40.52 | purl | nargiddley is currently on #wowi-lounge (51m 34s) #wowace (51m 34s), last said: 'afaik yes'. |
| 07:40.52 | cncfanatics | ~shoot Nargiddley |
| 07:40.53 | purl | ACTION shoots Nargiddley in the eye with a phase pistol! |
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| 07:41.06 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, hi |
| 07:41.11 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 07:41.14 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 07:41.20 | cncfanatics | nargiddley, bugs |
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| 07:41.36 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:41.43 | nevcairiel | mornin ammo |
| 07:41.47 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley |
| 07:41.52 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics |
| 07:42.14 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/FlexBar2.zip |
| 07:42.24 | Fisker- | Nargiddley |
| 07:42.26 | Fisker- | cncfanatics |
| 07:42.36 | cncfanatics | line 136 in Core.lua |
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| 07:42.49 | cncfanatics | the Debug function with ... really shouldnt return nil when I edit the textbox should it ? |
| 07:43.02 | cncfanatics | I'm not getting any arguments :( |
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| 07:46.02 | cncfanatics | Fisker- pong |
| 07:46.42 | Fisker- | ping |
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| 07:49.07 | Bibi | is it possible to screenshot something with a specific name ? |
| 07:49.14 | Bibi | like /screenshot BWL12 |
| 07:50.47 | Fisker- | no |
| 07:50.48 | Fisker- | u |
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| 07:57.50 | Fisker- | would be teh awesome though Bibi |
| 07:57.56 | Fisker- | someone should spam slouken until he does it |
| 07:57.59 | Fisker- | add in variables |
| 07:58.41 | evl | better yet, make the standard format <Keywords>-2007.07.18-18.35.jpg |
| 07:59.02 | Azurewrath | go on and spam him, you have the most experience in trolling and spaming ;) |
| 07:59.34 | Azurewrath | evl: naah.. with underscores ok.. but dots in filenames are baaaad |
| 07:59.35 | Fisker- | i have no troll access on the us forum |
| 08:00.11 | Azurewrath | too bad, me neither.. |
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| 08:03.15 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44070 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: bugfix SWS spying |
| 08:04.26 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r44071 10Sphere/Buttons/Buttons.lua: Sphere: - Added Stance Support |
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| 08:10.40 | abbat_w | Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/6/55). 9953 HP; 7961 Mana; 125 mana regen; 159 spell crit rating; 3.73% +spell hit; 802 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 451 resilience; |
| 08:10.53 | abbat_w | I hit 450 resilience now ;) |
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| 08:12.12 | Grum | so crits don't exist anymore ? :P |
| 08:12.14 | abbat_w | Grum, i have shatter ;) |
| 08:12.26 | abbat_w | +50% crit vs frozen target |
| 08:12.41 | Grum | nono, i mean *on you* :P |
| 08:12.44 | cncfanatics | arena is silly |
| 08:12.48 | abbat_w | ah |
| 08:12.52 | abbat_w | -11% crit on me |
| 08:12.59 | Grum | crits will now heal you! ;D |
| 08:13.06 | abbat_w | -5% melee/ranged hit on me |
| 08:13.18 | abbat_w | Not easy to kill me :) |
| 08:13.20 | Grum | so you wtfpwn them all now? ;D |
| 08:13.27 | abbat_w | No ;) |
| 08:15.21 | abbat_w | also i change metagem from 18 sta/5% stun resist to 5% chance to 1/2 cast time |
| 08:15.44 | neolith | is the svn down? I can't commit... :\ |
| 08:15.58 | [Ammo] | server sstarted having some issues |
| 08:16.10 | abbat_w | But my first addon won't work ;) Try it, bars is ok but events won't be hooked ;( |
| 08:16.35 | neolith | ah, ok - I'll give a try later then... |
| 08:18.17 | pastamancer | neolith: should be working fine |
| 08:19.49 | [Ammo] | it had a bad hickup |
| 08:19.52 | [Ammo] | when he complained |
| 08:19.55 | [Ammo] | no stylesheets on forums |
| 08:19.58 | [Ammo] | slow to load etc |
| 08:22.32 | [Ammo] | anda gain |
| 08:22.41 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r44072 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 08:22.41 | CIA-22 | Waterfall-1.0: Bugfix for changedFunc on textboxes |
| 08:22.41 | CIA-22 | - Added :SetSize(id, width, height) to resize an open window, also 'width' and 'height' parameters to :Register for initial window size |
| 08:27.58 | neolith | strange, still no luck |
| 08:28.06 | neolith | I am getting this error: http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorji8.gif |
| 08:28.59 | Fisker- | man cncfanatics that sucks |
| 08:32.59 | cncfanatics | Fisker- ? |
| 08:33.11 | cncfanatics | what sucks ? |
| 08:34.45 | cncfanatics | ~shoot Fisker- |
| 08:34.46 | purl | ACTION shoots Fisker- in the ear with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 08:37.45 | Fisker- | that you got your bug fixed |
| 08:37.49 | cncfanatics | hah |
| 08:37.58 | cncfanatics | and my feature request included |
| 08:38.01 | cncfanatics | phaer me |
| 08:38.37 | abyssichate | I need to try Parrot again, it looks like ckknight_ added loads of feature lately uhm |
| 08:38.49 | Gngsk | is it possible to add putting a raid target icon on your target with a macro and be able to spam that button without having the icon being applied and removed ? |
| 08:39.04 | abbat_w | btw |
| 08:39.08 | abbat_w | Avion released? |
| 08:39.27 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, it has a conditional so you can't use it :) |
| 08:39.43 | abbat_w | why? |
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| 08:40.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 08:40.34 | cncfanatics | because noone wants abbat_w to use their addons ^^ |
| 08:41.03 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 08:41.09 | abbat_w | now i make my own ;) |
| 08:42.31 | cncfanatics | the conditonal is in the ace2 library too, and in framexml as well ^^ |
| 08:44.02 | cncfanatics | and i'm bored ... |
| 08:45.20 | fireglow | :-D |
| 08:46.30 | Grum | Gnancy: ofc that is possible, I just wonder why you are scared of removing the iron |
| 08:46.41 | Grum | *icon. it's not like icons are toggles :) |
| 08:46.57 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, please do |
| 08:47.04 | cncfanatics | ppleeeeassse |
| 08:47.10 | Grum | nevcairiel: you'd get stupid answers as well ;D |
| 08:47.17 | cncfanatics | especialy from me |
| 08:47.44 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, got the number ? ^^ |
| 08:47.48 | Grum | an answer for every question, smart question .. smart answer .. stupid question .. you get the drift ;D |
| 08:48.07 | cncfanatics | smart questions stupid answers can as well |
| 08:48.20 | cncfanatics | I also rarely saw smart answers to stupid questions, but thats once in a lifetime |
| 08:48.28 | [Ammo] | Grum: icons are toggles, if you set the same icon again it removes it |
| 08:48.40 | [Ammo] | with macro etc |
| 08:48.42 | Grum | that is new for me O.o |
| 08:49.08 | Grum | go go blizzard for making that extra userfriendly! |
| 08:49.28 | cncfanatics | ~own Grum |
| 08:49.40 | Grum | me ass got served! |
| 08:49.41 | mitch0 | [ammo]: are you the one behind pitbull auras and/or layout thing? |
| 08:49.47 | [Ammo] | thank god no |
| 08:49.49 | Grum | oooooh |
| 08:49.53 | cncfanatics | ckknight is |
| 08:49.59 | [Ammo] | I use agUF |
| 08:50.00 | cncfanatics | and its buggy atm (at least it doesnt work for me ...) |
| 08:50.10 | Grum | i need to talk to the person who is! they keep jumping around for no reason what so ever and it is *VERY* annoying |
| 08:50.24 | ckknight | I actually didn't write the layout part of the auras |
| 08:50.35 | Grum | so who did? and could someone take a look at it |
| 08:50.39 | ckknight | which, imho, is why it doesn't work right |
| 08:50.42 | Grum | it's rather annoying as it is atm :( |
| 08:50.52 | Grum | in the preview it looks ok |
| 08:51.03 | Grum | then i adjust nothing .. and it jumps around |
| 08:51.17 | Grum | (like i have then above my unitframe - and they suddenly decide to 'jump up' 1 row extra') |
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| 08:51.46 | mitch0 | ckk: ah, you're here :) maybe you can help me anyway: can I somehow remove the Y offset of the auras? for the raid frames I only have the healthbar shown with the char name on it, and the auras are to the left/rignt of it, but they're offset a bit upwards. I'd like them to be "in line" with the healthbar. is that easy to do? |
| 08:51.50 | Grum | tried anything, smaller size, less buffs, snap on/off .. but nothing works 100% |
| 08:52.10 | ckknight | mitch0: no idea |
| 08:52.15 | mitch0 | ok |
| 08:52.32 | mitch0 | will dig the source then a bit |
| 08:52.32 | Grum | should not be hard coding wise but you would add craploads of options again |
| 08:53.03 | Grum | i'd also love to have pitbull actually work with waterfall ... all those dropdowns give me headaches :P |
| 08:53.18 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r44073 10beql/locales/localization-ko.lua: beql: - update koKR locals |
| 08:53.30 | Grum | and for some reason the fubar icon of pitbull can not be dragged to another location on a fubar-panel |
| 08:53.58 | Grum | also it isn't transparent (aka - black block on my transparant bar) |
| 08:54.37 | ckknight | you have too many issues |
| 08:54.42 | ckknight | and most I just don't care about |
| 08:55.05 | Grum | so much for trying to be helpful O.o |
| 08:55.14 | Grum | (from my side ofc ;)) |
| 08:57.05 | cncfanatics | ckknight, pitbull still doesn't work for me ... |
| 08:57.19 | ckknight | works for me |
| 08:57.21 | cncfanatics | I get no errors, but the fubar icon is a question mark and the tooltip only has the profile, enable disable and donate buttons |
| 08:57.26 | cncfanatics | (I did a fresh install) |
| 08:57.32 | cncfanatics | no lua errors either |
| 08:57.40 | ckknight | if you have no errors, I really don't know what to tell you |
| 08:57.57 | ckknight | likely an outdated lib or something, though |
| 08:58.11 | cncfanatics | all my libs are standalone and often updated |
| 08:58.14 | cncfanatics | shouldn't be that |
| 08:58.22 | cncfanatics | but i'll check |
| 08:58.33 | ckknight | do you use BugSack? |
| 08:58.37 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 08:58.46 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44074 10Links/Links.lua: Links: Updated koKR |
| 08:58.49 | ckknight | disable it and !BugGrabber |
| 08:58.50 | cncfanatics | but i'm at work now, can't use wow, i'll doublecheck tonight for errors |
| 08:58.53 | ckknight | see if you get an error |
| 08:58.55 | cncfanatics | k |
| 08:59.34 | Grum | !BugGrabber has the worst interface evar! =D |
| 09:00.25 | cncfanatics | buggrabber has no interface ? |
| 09:00.42 | nevcairiel | thats the thing |
| 09:00.44 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 09:00.51 | cncfanatics | hmmm that cowtip looks nice |
| 09:00.58 | cncfanatics | when will it be possible to have a ckk only interface ? :o |
| 09:01.04 | Gngsk | now? |
| 09:01.10 | Grum | whenever he fixes stuff! ;D |
| 09:01.24 | cncfanatics | we need ckkbars |
| 09:01.50 | Grum | is there anything like bartender that actually allows you to use more than just the default set of 10x12 button bars? |
| 09:02.03 | cncfanatics | Grum, Infinibars and soon flexbar |
| 09:02.03 | Grum | 12 buttons is occasionally too much O.o |
| 09:02.07 | nevcairiel | who needs more then 120 buttons? |
| 09:02.17 | cncfanatics | he means custom groups |
| 09:02.20 | Grum | i dont need more, i just want to make a block of 7x7 icons |
| 09:02.24 | Grum | which is severly not possible atm :P |
| 09:02.31 | cncfanatics | with 7 bars it is |
| 09:02.35 | cncfanatics | but u'll lack bars in the end :p |
| 09:02.37 | nevcairiel | create 7 bars with 7 buttons in bartender :P |
| 09:02.48 | Grum | nope, the '5' empty spots remain clickable |
| 09:02.54 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 09:02.58 | nevcairiel | reduce the button count to 7 |
| 09:03.03 | nevcairiel | and it wont |
| 09:03.04 | Grum | mmm |
| 09:03.14 | cncfanatics | btw nevcairiel |
| 09:03.16 | Grum | i must have so overlooked that 'button count' slider then |
| 09:03.21 | Grum | will take another look tonight :) |
| 09:03.24 | nevcairiel | you can reduce button count in bartender, just not increase it over 12 |
| 09:03.36 | Grum | i dont care for increasing tbh |
| 09:03.53 | Grum | but, flexbar will support it ? ;) |
| 09:04.25 | Grum | we should make a comparison chart between similiar addons somewhere O.o |
| 09:04.31 | Grum | it gets kinda confusing :D |
| 09:04.46 | cncfanatics | I noticed that sometimes buttons with a spell on get hidden when the hide empty buttons option is checked |
| 09:05.08 | Grum | btw ACP rocks :) |
| 09:05.11 | nevcairiel | i know, but i dont know why :P |
| 09:05.31 | Grum | would be nice if you could actually recreate the error =D |
| 09:05.45 | nevcairiel | the thing is, i cannot .) |
| 09:05.50 | Grum | but i reckon that is what hardest for every addon coder :( |
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| 09:05.57 | Grum | +is |
| 09:05.59 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel |
| 09:06.06 | cncfanatics | its rathor anoying when for instance judgement gets hidden :/ |
| 09:06.07 | cncfanatics | or holy shield |
| 09:06.15 | cncfanatics | those are 8 sec cd moves I cast all the time :( |
| 09:06.24 | cncfanatics | just get lots of debug code saved ? |
| 09:06.28 | Margus | ckknight: Parrot r44047 "I'm gonna say that it's at least 57% pimper than SCT's or MSBT's respective tests." |
| 09:06.28 | cncfanatics | and play till it happens ? |
| 09:06.31 | Margus | <3! |
| 09:06.36 | nevcairiel | it never ever happend for me |
| 09:06.47 | cncfanatics | how is parrot better then sct or msbt Margus ? (didnt try it yet) |
| 09:07.05 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, if you send me a version of bt that saves debug code I can use it till I can reproduce the bug |
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| 09:07.30 | ckknight | cncfanatics: it's more similar to msbt, but the main quality above msbt is that it's extremely extensible and hackable |
| 09:07.37 | cncfanatics | oooh |
| 09:07.39 | ckknight | also, msbt uses some crappy code in some places |
| 09:07.41 | cncfanatics | efficient too ? |
| 09:07.44 | Margus | cncfanatics: hmm dunno if parrot IS better than SCT or MSBT but ck says that the test animation function is exactly 57% better! |
| 09:07.55 | ckknight | not better |
| 09:07.56 | cncfanatics | my comp is crappy, and uses wine to run wow, so I'm slow as soo nas I use nonefficient addons |
| 09:07.56 | ckknight | pimper. |
| 09:08.01 | Margus | ^^ |
| 09:08.01 | Grum | give screenshots and calculations for it to be called better! |
| 09:08.04 | mitch0 | ckk: does it have cooldown count now? |
| 09:08.04 | ckknight | 57% pimper, to be exact |
| 09:08.07 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r44075 10oRA2/ (6 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: frFR Update |
| 09:08.14 | ckknight | mitch0: cooldown count? |
| 09:08.17 | Margus | made my day xD |
| 09:08.23 | mitch0 | erm, cooldown something |
| 09:08.25 | mitch0 | not count |
| 09:08.29 | ckknight | cncfanatics: it is quite efficient. |
| 09:08.29 | cncfanatics | lal |
| 09:08.33 | cncfanatics | ckknight, good |
| 09:08.33 | mitch0 | like [TOEP Ready] |
| 09:08.37 | cncfanatics | might check it out |
| 09:08.39 | ckknight | much more efficient than SCT, at least |
| 09:08.41 | cncfanatics | sct lags me so hard |
| 09:08.48 | ckknight | MSBT has some extra stuff that makes it more efficient |
| 09:08.51 | Grum | mmm is sct really that bad? |
| 09:09.00 | QD-san | yup |
| 09:09.04 | QD-san | :< |
| 09:09.04 | ckknight | but Parrot's general coding practices probably place it slightly better than MSBT |
| 09:09.06 | Grum | i'll replace it tonight :) |
| 09:09.08 | ckknight | though I doubt by much. |
| 09:09.14 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44076 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: Updated koKR |
| 09:09.29 | cncfanatics | hmmm, now I have a question for you ckknight, has nothing to do with one of ur addons though, just coding practice |
| 09:09.34 | ckknight | k? |
| 09:09.40 | Grum | i wonder, if you are using sct, ctraid, ktm and switch to parrot, ora, omen .. how much CPU you would gain ;D |
| 09:09.56 | cncfanatics | as u know (or not) i'm recoding flexbar2 (again). how would you implement modules for an addon like flexbar ? |
| 09:09.59 | ckknight | at least a bogomip |
| 09:10.09 | Margus | ckknight: will you add something like the "shared notification frames" like in SCT? So you can display BW messages in it too? |
| 09:10.12 | ckknight | cncfanatics: dunno, I don't use bar mods |
| 09:10.22 | cncfanatics | ckknight: bleh |
| 09:10.30 | ckknight | Margus: um... not 100% sure how to accomplish that. |
| 09:10.42 | ckknight | Margus: BigWigs could do Parrot:ShowMessage("My message") |
| 09:10.42 | ckknight | and that's that |
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| 09:10.52 | Margus | mhm |
| 09:11.04 | cncfanatics | hmmm, would be fun if you could show messages on someone's else screen if they got parrot |
| 09:11.22 | Grum | cncfanatics: what kind of addons would you like to support? i'd have no idea what kind of addons a 'complete' addonbar should support next to styling - but you have cycircled for that |
| 09:11.31 | Margus | cncfanatics: that's called Raid Warning don't steal Blizz' ideas!!! |
| 09:11.34 | Margus | ;) |
| 09:11.52 | Grum | lol, Blizz so invented that on it's own .. O.o |
| 09:11.54 | QD-san | hmm |
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| 09:12.34 | Grum | oh, cncfanatics, if you can make some kind of 'snap to grid', snap to other frames/buttons support in it that would be nice :P |
| 09:12.49 | Grum | and possible just handle it button by button and 'snap' them together |
| 09:13.41 | cncfanatics | Grum, in flexbar I want everything customizable |
| 09:13.47 | cncfanatics | like pitbull, everything will be a module |
| 09:14.01 | Grum | so which modules are you pondering about now? :) |
| 09:14.03 | cncfanatics | which can add stuff into waterfall, add stuff into buttons and/or into groups |
| 09:14.05 | QD-san | oh cncfanatics |
| 09:14.08 | cncfanatics | I'm still coding the core |
| 09:14.16 | cncfanatics | i'm at work so can't code atm :( |
| 09:14.23 | QD-san | which were you using? msbt/parrot? |
| 09:14.28 | cncfanatics | atm, sct |
| 09:14.32 | cncfanatics | switching to parot probably |
| 09:14.40 | QD-san | I'm trying to find a replacement for sct that allows flagging |
| 09:14.50 | QD-san | ie; rather than spamming my screen with consecration numbers |
| 09:14.56 | QD-san | just tell me consec is hitting the mob or not :P |
| 09:15.28 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 09:15.31 | cncfanatics | I'd love that too as tankadin |
| 09:15.39 | cncfanatics | consec on 25+ mobs is shit |
| 09:15.41 | Diao | isn't that kind of hard to accomplish without showing the numbers? |
| 09:15.44 | cncfanatics | (black morass all trash at once) |
| 09:16.24 | QD-san | not really that hard diao |
| 09:16.41 | cncfanatics | Known Bugs: none at this point, huh nevcairiel, didnt you forget a bug there ? :p (forum thread) |
| 09:16.49 | Diao | well |
| 09:16.54 | QD-san | instead of having it scroll across your screen and displaying multiple tics, just have it display one tick and in a static position |
| 09:17.01 | Diao | oh |
| 09:17.06 | Diao | msbt/parrot does something like that |
| 09:17.16 | cncfanatics | what i'd like is just how much mobs my consec is hitting on an apart frame |
| 09:17.18 | Diao | 1400 (consecration, 10 hits) |
| 09:17.22 | Diao | or something |
| 09:17.24 | cncfanatics | that's not something sct/msbt or parot should do though |
| 09:17.32 | Diao | well |
| 09:17.34 | cncfanatics | probably should make an addon for it |
| 09:17.38 | Diao | that's how they do it anyway |
| 09:17.41 | cncfanatics | consec hitting X mobs for X dps |
| 09:17.44 | Diao | same with multiple heals |
| 09:17.44 | QD-san | hmm ya true cncfanatics :< |
| 09:17.55 | cncfanatics | I might work on something like that, but flexbar comes first |
| 09:17.59 | QD-san | I mean it's useful for Mag/Gruul and other 'big' bosses too |
| 09:18.01 | cncfanatics | can't u do that QuantumDelta ? |
| 09:18.07 | Diao | +2033 (renew, 5 hits, 1 crit) |
| 09:18.10 | Diao | well |
| 09:18.11 | QD-san | I haven't coded for a very long time ^^; |
| 09:18.11 | Diao | no crit on renew |
| 09:18.13 | Diao | but you know what i mean |
| 09:18.15 | cncfanatics | QS-san , consec not hitting big bosses is fixed next patch btw |
| 09:18.26 | QD-san | noticed ;) |
| 09:18.27 | cncfanatics | QD-san, now is the time to start again :) its a very small project |
| 09:18.34 | QD-san | t_t |
| 09:19.00 | QD-san | teaching myself LUA when I haven't even looked at code in 8 years seems a bit daunting :P |
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| 09:20.18 | ckknight | Lua |
| 09:21.05 | QD-san | I wonder if I could even pseudo-code it properly anymore ;PP |
| 09:21.08 | cncfanatics | QD-san, lua is EASY |
| 09:21.29 | QD-san | it does indeed look quite readable when I crack open good addons |
| 09:21.31 | QD-san | >_< |
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| 09:21.35 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 09:21.39 | cncfanatics | if u think thats readable |
| 09:21.44 | cncfanatics | I hope that was sarcastic |
| 09:21.53 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44077 10AuldLangSyne/ (6 files in 5 dirs): AuldLangSyne: Merge branch changes - use TheSocial and RollCall. |
| 09:22.12 | QD-san | notated ones I can follow for the most part xP |
| 09:22.33 | ckknight | TheSocial? |
| 09:22.40 | Grum | AuldLangSyne - superb addon with the *WORST* name possible and even worst description! |
| 09:22.42 | ckknight | should've been BoxSocial or something |
| 09:22.56 | Grum | there would be so much more people using it if that was 'fixed' :D |
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| 09:23.13 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: what do i care, i dont update it =P |
| 09:23.14 | QD-san | what does ALS do? :P |
| 09:23.22 | Grum | friendnotes etc |
| 09:23.26 | Grum | guildynotes |
| 09:23.28 | Grum | really useful :P |
| 09:23.32 | QD-san | better than WTH? |
| 09:23.42 | Grum | WTH? |
| 09:23.47 | QD-san | "Who the Hell" |
| 09:23.57 | Grum | also never heard of it |
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| 09:24.03 | Grum | it's all in the name |
| 09:24.07 | QD-san | adds 255 char notes to friends list and stuff per char |
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| 09:25.21 | cncfanatics | why only 255 chars ? |
| 09:25.23 | cncfanatics | bit silly |
| 09:25.52 | QD-san | no idea :P |
| 09:26.14 | krka | 8 bit silly |
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| 09:26.18 | cncfanatics | lua has no string character limit |
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| 09:27.34 | Fisker- | cncfanatics |
| 09:27.41 | Fisker- | This is madness |
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| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44078 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua: |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | -Fu: Remove a check made obsolete by changes to Info. |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | -Fu: Register for RollCall10-Updated as well. |
| 09:28.39 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, what is ? |
| 09:28.51 | cncfanatics | Hello snorks |
| 09:29.16 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong |
| 09:29.16 | Kemayo | ckknight: Well, it seeemed descriptive enough. :D |
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| 09:29.48 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, what am I doing wrong ? |
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| 09:30.04 | Kemayo | Grum: I maintain that the name is perfectly descriptive. :P |
| 09:30.25 | Grum | please explain it then ;D |
| 09:30.46 | krka | yes, you only need 6 logical steps to get the name |
| 09:30.50 | Fisker- | cncfanatics you should do it like this: |
| 09:30.52 | Fisker- | Madness? |
| 09:30.52 | krka | normal ace addons need 11! |
| 09:30.58 | Fisker- | THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:30.58 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 09:31.09 | Fisker- | ~purl literal you suck |
| 09:31.09 | purl | "you suck" is "<reply> and very well I might add" |
| 09:31.19 | Fisker- | ~purl literal this is madness |
| 09:31.20 | purl | okay, Fisker- |
| 09:31.29 | Fisker- | doh |
| 09:31.38 | Punkie` | oh damnit fisker |
| 09:31.38 | Fisker- | ~purl literal this |
| 09:31.39 | purl | "this" is "ibot is hearing me talk" |
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| 09:31.44 | Kemayo | Grum: It's the title of a fairly well-known traditional song. |
| 09:32.16 | QD-san | it is |
| 09:32.23 | Grum | so could you possible update the description it shows on files.wowace.com so it is 100% clear what your addon provides? :) |
| 09:32.29 | QD-san | but I doubt many wow players have the literacy to remember that song offcuff |
| 09:32.29 | QD-san | :P |
| 09:32.31 | Grum | because really .. the addon rocks |
| 09:32.37 | Codayus | I might even say very well known. And the lyrics make the addon purpose obvious. |
| 09:32.44 | Grum | but i see hardly anyone using it because it is near impossible to find |
| 09:33.02 | cncfanatics | what addon, what purpose ? |
| 09:33.05 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.17 | cncfanatics | what its purpose ? |
| 09:33.21 | Grum | indeed |
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| 09:33.39 | cncfanatics | omg FISKER-Q |
| 09:33.39 | FISKER_Q | purl, this is madness is <reply>Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:33.39 | purl | FISKER_Q: I think you lost me on that one |
| 09:33.42 | FISKER_Q | come on |
| 09:33.44 | FISKER_Q | don't break on me |
| 09:33.45 | Kemayo | Grum: I'll grant you the merits of a more informative description, though. |
| 09:33.46 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 09:33.55 | FISKER_Q | purl, "this is madness is" <reply>Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:33.56 | purl | ...but "this is already something else... |
| 09:33.57 | cncfanatics | lol Fisker |
| 09:34.00 | FISKER_Q | purl, "this is madness" is <reply>Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:34.01 | purl | ...but "this is already something else... |
| 09:34.04 | FISKER_Q | man |
| 09:34.06 | cncfanatics | purl, forget this |
| 09:34.06 | purl | i forgot this, cncfanatics |
| 09:34.06 | FISKER_Q | :< |
| 09:34.10 | cncfanatics | now try |
| 09:34.12 | Grum | Kemayo: if you put something like 'friendnotes' orso it should be plenty enough |
| 09:34.13 | FISKER_Q | purl, "this is madness" is <reply>Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:34.14 | purl | ...but "this is already something else... |
| 09:34.21 | FISKER_Q | i think it's the spaces |
| 09:34.24 | FISKER_Q | and double is's |
| 09:34.25 | QD-san | hahahahaha |
| 09:34.42 | |Pixel| | "this ? |
| 09:34.44 | abyssichate | this is madness |
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| 09:34.52 | abyssichate | :| |
| 09:34.52 | Fisker- | it's a silly stupid bot |Pixel| |
| 09:35.15 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44079 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.toc: AuldLangSyne: Make Notes field be a little more informative. |
| 09:35.26 | QD-san | Bot 1: Fisker 0 |
| 09:35.37 | Fisker- | more like bot 0 me 1 |
| 09:35.41 | Fisker- | ~purl literal madness |
| 09:35.42 | purl | "madness" is "<REPLY> Madness screams in the eyes of the lord." |
| 09:35.53 | Fisker- | purl, madness is <reply>Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:35.54 | purl | ...but madness is already something else... |
| 09:36.01 | Fisker- | purl, no madness is <reply>Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:36.02 | purl | okay, Fisker- |
| 09:36.04 | QD-san | haha |
| 09:36.09 | Fisker- | purl, madness |
| 09:36.10 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:36.15 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 09:36.19 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 09:36.25 | cncfanatics | purl, forget Madness |
| 09:36.57 | cncfanatics | purl, no madness is Fisker- |
| 09:36.58 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 09:37.00 | Fisker- | fu |
| 09:37.02 | cncfanatics | muahaha |
| 09:37.20 | cncfanatics | 'll be nice then |
| 09:38.20 | cncfanatics | purl, no madness is <reply>Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:38.21 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
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| 09:41.17 | Kemayo | ~sparta |
| 09:41.18 | purl | 3D real-time opengl physical modeling package with free source. URL: http://www.cse.psu.edu/~mdl/sparta/ |
| 09:41.21 | Kemayo | Aw. |
| 09:41.26 | Margus | ^^ |
| 09:41.55 | cncfanatics | ~DRM |
| 09:41.56 | purl | well, drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No(TM), or better known as ... |
| 09:42.05 | cncfanatics | damn its getting too long |
| 09:42.17 | Fisker- | remove all the linux shit |
| 09:42.18 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:42.23 | Margus | NO WAI! |
| 09:42.23 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 09:42.31 | cncfanatics | ~Fisker- |
| 09:42.32 | purl | [fisker-] DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 09:42.42 | cncfanatics | purl, Fisker- is also a linux hater |
| 09:42.43 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 09:42.51 | mitch0 | nevcariel: how often do you update the wowi release of bt3? sort of up-to-date now? |
| 09:42.53 | Gngsk | ~fisker- |
| 09:42.54 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END ... |
| 09:43.15 | cncfanatics | ~Fisker- |
| 09:43.15 | purl | somebody said fisker- was DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER, or a ... |
| 09:43.30 | Margus | hmm |
| 09:44.26 | Fisker- | i don't hate linux cncfanatics :( |
| 09:44.33 | QD-san | LOL |
| 09:45.03 | Margus | that's what they say everytime!!!111 |
| 09:45.04 | Margus | ;) |
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| 09:45.46 | Fisker- | it's just an easy thing to pretend to hate :P |
| 09:46.30 | cncfanatics | ~fb2 |
| 09:46.31 | purl | FB2 is FlexBar2: Ace2 addon for button manipulation |
| 09:46.39 | cncfanatics | ~jjsheets |
| 09:46.39 | purl | it has been said that jjsheets is a whale slapper |
| 09:46.49 | cncfanatics | purl, jjsheets is also inactive |
| 09:46.49 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 09:46.54 | cncfanatics | ~jjsheets |
| 09:46.55 | purl | i guess jjsheets is a whale slapper, or inactive |
| 09:47.08 | cncfanatics | should be and :p |
| 09:47.14 | Fisker- | http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/pcblowout.html <-haha |
| 09:47.24 | Fisker- | originally it said about the activation: |
| 09:47.31 | Fisker- | "It's an anti-piracy measure that we unfortunately have to implement to curb illegal game distribution as best we can. It's a one time crack and then you're done." |
| 09:47.38 | Fisker- | You're damn right it's a one-time crack ;D |
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| 09:50.50 | cncfanatics | there is no effective anti-piracy measure in the world |
| 09:50.59 | cncfanatics | simply not achievable |
| 09:51.04 | Diao | isn't there? |
| 09:51.09 | Diao | monthly fees? |
| 09:51.09 | Diao | :P |
| 09:51.20 | cncfanatics | 9E99 particulars have more time to crack the protection then 1000 employees |
| 09:51.48 | Fisker- | cncfanatics Steam's anti-piracy measure is pretty good |
| 09:52.06 | Diao | monthly fees are the most effective anti-piracy technique ;p |
| 09:52.17 | Diao | you don't pay, you can't play |
| 09:52.26 | Fisker- | that's what you think :o |
| 09:53.00 | cncfanatics | fraudular payment ftw ? |
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| 09:53.18 | krka | cncfanatics: one effictive measure is doing a lot of stuff serverside, and keeping the server code base secret |
| 09:53.19 | Diao | ok well |
| 09:53.20 | cncfanatics | and u can always play on private servers |
| 09:53.22 | krka | like blizzard does with wow |
| 09:53.24 | Diao | SOMEONE has to pay |
| 09:53.30 | cncfanatics | krka, there are wow private servers |
| 09:53.32 | krka | sure |
| 09:53.35 | krka | but they suck in comparison |
| 09:53.38 | Diao | wow private servers are terrible though |
| 09:53.38 | Fisker- | I believe there was some bug in the payment system |
| 09:53.40 | cncfanatics | depends what one |
| 09:53.40 | Diao | terrible. |
| 09:53.49 | cncfanatics | I never tried one |
| 09:53.51 | krka | more bugs, less features, less stable user databases |
| 09:53.52 | Fisker- | where you could exploit it for unlimited gametime |
| 09:53.54 | Fisker- | but it was fixed :< |
| 09:53.58 | cncfanatics | but some of my retarted guildies spend time 2manning illidan |
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| 09:54.10 | cncfanatics | so it musnt be that bad |
| 09:54.28 | krka | i still think it's a useful anti-piracy measure |
| 09:54.31 | ashai|hc | im sure it looks like illidan |
| 09:54.38 | ashai|hc | but it wouldnt act like him |
| 09:54.38 | krka | sure, you won't stop it completely, but most people simply wont bother |
| 09:54.54 | krka | the advantages of the real servers is too big right now |
| 09:55.52 | cncfanatics | true |
| 09:56.05 | cncfanatics | GRRR |
| 09:56.12 | cncfanatics | fucking irritating quit advertising |
| 09:56.35 | Pkekyo | ~modernman |
| 09:56.35 | purl | modernman is probably George Carlin - http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000548.html |
| 09:56.40 | Pkekyo | kek |
| 09:57.11 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 09:57.12 | purl | hmm... cncfanatics is the flexbar2 author |
| 09:57.15 | CIA-22 | 03laric * r44080 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.lua AoFDKP_sets.lua): |
| 09:57.15 | CIA-22 | AoFDKP : |
| 09:57.15 | CIA-22 | -Add handling of multiclass token items. |
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| 09:57.23 | Sole | good evening |
| 09:57.51 | cncfanatics | ~evolve |
| 09:58.02 | cncfanatics | purl, evolve is the alias of cncfanatics |
| 09:58.02 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 09:59.29 | Laric | ~evolve |
| 09:59.30 | purl | evolve is probably the alias of cncfanatics |
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| 10:01.55 | Laric | is there any website or similair where I can browse the icons in wow? so I can figure out that i want to use Interface\Icons\Spell_Nature_ForceOfNature |
| 10:02.43 | Fisker- | i could host the newest selection of icons from the 2.2 PTR |
| 10:03.03 | Fisker- | but it will probably take up to an hour to get them all uploaded |
| 10:03.31 | Laric | just found em on rpgoutfitter thanks |
| 10:03.37 | Fisker- | ok |
| 10:03.49 | Laric | guess explorer will do the trick |
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| 10:08.22 | cncfanatics | Fisker- |
| 10:08.25 | cncfanatics | while ur at it |
| 10:08.31 | cncfanatics | could you host the 2.2 PTR client ? |
| 10:09.17 | Fisker- | the patch |
| 10:09.22 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 10:10.12 | Fisker- | i have alreeaady |
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| 10:10.35 | Fisker- | i was just opening 3711 applications |
| 10:10.39 | Fisker- | or 1 application 3711 times |
| 10:10.43 | Fisker- | whatever way you wanna put it |
| 10:10.47 | Fisker- | makes it hard to type |
| 10:10.52 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoW0.2/ |
| 10:11.32 | cncfanatics | lal |
| 10:11.41 | Laric | is self:Hook("ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler", "WhisperHandler", true) still the 'kosher' way of hooking whispers? |
| 10:11.42 | cncfanatics | remembers me |
| 10:11.52 | cncfanatics | I had 20k connections open from bittorrent once |
| 10:11.55 | cncfanatics | kinda much and my internet hooked |
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| 10:12.23 | Dhraga | what is atm the best item sellvalues addon ? |
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| 10:12.38 | cncfanatics | damn that |
| 10:12.39 | Laric | imnho sellfish |
| 10:14.11 | Azurewrath | i like ColaLight.. don't know if it's the best though |
| 10:14.19 | cncfanatics | I like Pepsi |
| 10:14.22 | cncfanatics | (not) |
| 10:14.31 | Azurewrath | i meant the addon ;p |
| 10:14.44 | Azurewrath | And noone likes Pepsi |
| 10:14.55 | Dhraga | Azurewrath, thanks for the tip. I used to have kcitems, but it has stopped showing sellvalues |
| 10:16.15 | krka | on that topic... is there any addon that automatically throws away the least valuable object when your bags are full? |
| 10:16.23 | krka | or sorts things by value? |
| 10:17.02 | Dhraga | what do you guys 'n gals use for castbar addon, I have always use CBRipoff, but lately it dont recognize interrupts |
| 10:17.29 | Azurewrath | krka: guess GarbageFu can do that, but i only use it to one-click sell all grey stuff.. |
| 10:17.40 | Azurewrath | Dhraga: Quartz |
| 10:17.45 | phreakzter | Dhraga: quartz |
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| 10:20.09 | cncfanatics | krka |
| 10:20.12 | cncfanatics | there could be |
| 10:20.18 | cncfanatics | but I wouldnt want that if I only had epix in my bags |
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| 10:27.43 | QD-san | hmm |
| 10:27.59 | QD-san | looks like my trusty x800xt pe wont handle bioshock |
| 10:28.01 | Margus | ckknight: you cut off my Cowtip! |
| 10:28.06 | QD-san | first game outta my reach since i built my machine oO |
| 10:28.33 | Sole | but my 7950GT will handle it! |
| 10:28.36 | Sole | har har har |
| 10:28.45 | Sole | Im going to hell |
| 10:28.56 | Margus | Sole: good idea! |
| 10:29.39 | abbat_w | Sole, can i take some code from Antagonist (anchor positioning) |
| 10:29.49 | QD-san | well sole |
| 10:29.53 | abbat_w | I'll make an small addon for pet timer ;) |
| 10:29.55 | QD-san | I built this machine when the X800 was released |
| 10:30.01 | QD-san | so it's lasted a very long time ;) |
| 10:30.05 | Sole | abbat_w: yes but its probly shit and you'll want to use WindowLib :P |
| 10:30.09 | Sole | oh I know :) |
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| 10:30.18 | abbat_w | WindowLib? |
| 10:30.19 | Sole | my brother built his machine around the time the x800 was released too |
| 10:30.31 | QD-san | If I slapped a new card in I'd still be good to go |
| 10:30.38 | abbat_w | And not shit. Antagonist is my main addon at pvp ;) |
| 10:30.38 | QD-san | I think however it's time to upgrade properly |
| 10:30.48 | abbat_w | can't play w/o |
| 10:30.52 | Sole | abbat_w: yeah Mikk is developing it, basically it handles all that shit afaik. I havent used it though |
| 10:31.00 | Sole | good to know at least 1 person appreciates my work :) |
| 10:31.13 | Sole | most people I refer to it simply say "OMG ITS NOT A CLONE OF NECB!" |
| 10:31.25 | abbat_w | Pff... |
| 10:31.38 | Sole | they turn a blind eye to the fact that most of the features NECB has over Ant are useless |
| 10:31.54 | abbat_w | Yep |
| 10:31.55 | cryogen | and the simple fact that necb sucks |
| 10:32.12 | Sole | and the fact that its the same as switching from KTM to Omen |
| 10:32.22 | Sole | your machine will thank you |
| 10:32.27 | Sole | although I admit I could update the code |
| 10:32.30 | abbat_w | Maybe not sucks, but i switch to Antagonist long time ago and don't plan to use necb |
| 10:32.40 | Sole | NECB doesnt suck feature wise |
| 10:32.47 | Sole | it sucks in terms of efficiency |
| 10:32.52 | abbat_w | Maybe if Sole stop support Antagonist... ;) |
| 10:32.56 | Sole | its the reason I made antagonist |
| 10:33.00 | Sole | abbat_w: well I kinda have :P |
| 10:33.14 | Sole | but its pretty much finalized |
| 10:33.15 | Sole | so yeah |
| 10:33.38 | abbat_w | Sole, you can't. You run arenas and even if you rogue you need to see spellcasting/cds/buffs ;) |
| 10:33.55 | Sole | I know :) |
| 10:34.02 | Sole | but I turned off the casting bit |
| 10:34.07 | Sole | I used the Quartz one |
| 10:34.10 | Sole | use* |
| 10:34.16 | Sole | for now at least |
| 10:34.24 | Sole | might switch back to know what other people are casting |
| 10:34.26 | Sole | that arent my target |
| 10:34.32 | abbat_w | Yep |
| 10:34.38 | abbat_w | You should know this |
| 10:34.50 | Sole | if I ever create a new version of antagonist, meaning a rewrite |
| 10:34.55 | abbat_w | My antagonist show all casts at arenas not only my targets |
| 10:35.09 | Sole | then I will definately add per unit tracking |
| 10:35.17 | Sole | so even if you have target only mode enabled |
| 10:35.25 | Sole | if you have background recording on |
| 10:35.31 | Sole | it will track surrounding casts/cooldowns/buffs |
| 10:35.37 | abbat_w | Oh, thats be very nice |
| 10:35.51 | Sole | so when you switch targets the timers for your new target will show and your old target's timers will be hidden but still tracked |
| 10:35.58 | Sole | thats something Id do |
| 10:36.21 | Sole | Ive gotten a lot better at coding since I made Antagonist :) |
| 10:36.26 | abbat_w | Now i miss only 'hypotermia' debuff tracking |
| 10:36.30 | QD-san | Sole |
| 10:36.35 | Sole | so I really should rewrite it when Im done with Cockfight |
| 10:36.38 | QD-san | NECB's efficiency has significantly improved recently |
| 10:36.38 | Sole | QD-san: ya? |
| 10:36.44 | Sole | its still ass |
| 10:36.50 | abbat_w | 'Hypothermia' and 'Forberance' |
| 10:37.15 | Sole | abbat_w: It'l be tricky because theyre debuffs, and ant doesnt track those |
| 10:37.26 | abbat_w | Yep |
| 10:37.27 | Sole | abbat_w: which is something Id consider for v3 also |
| 10:37.53 | abbat_w | Anyway it's best pvp spellcast tracking addon |
| 10:38.50 | krka | cncfanatics: i'd obviously only want it for non-quest, non-green, non-epics, et.c. |
| 10:40.49 | abbat_w | btw Sole, try to look at proximo. It is possible to modify it with clickcasting. For example you can cast blind and ppl with right click. For example you see what antagonist show heal cast and press right click. Healer blinded, cast interrupted |
| 10:41.32 | Sole | abbat_w: oh with v3 Id probably create my own bars instead of using candybar |
| 10:41.33 | abbat_w | I make sheeps with proximo. Nice feature ;) |
| 10:41.36 | Sole | abbat_w: I know about proximo |
| 10:41.47 | Sole | abbat_w: I created the same functionality with gladiator before proximo was released :P |
| 10:41.53 | abbat_w | Ah |
| 10:41.56 | Sole | I just never made it public except for the svn |
| 10:41.59 | abbat_w | I never see gladiator |
| 10:42.13 | Sole | its more like my test addon for arena stuff |
| 10:42.25 | Sole | Im working on Cockfight now which is basically gladiator but good :P |
| 10:42.28 | Sole | modular arena tracker |
| 10:42.44 | abbat_w | Yeah, i know ;) Wait for beta testing ;) |
| 10:43.57 | Sole | hehe |
| 10:44.03 | Sole | Ive only really created the core of it |
| 10:44.22 | Sole | so far it just creates the frames, detects new units and triggers the events for hte modules to do stuff |
| 10:45.00 | Sole | but as far as I can tell its as optimized as it can be for what it does :) |
| 10:45.34 | Sole | QD-san: NECB still fails in my eyes because it has that fps bar and it has a damned version checker |
| 10:45.37 | Sole | thats just bloat |
| 10:45.50 | Sole | and the options menu defies all sense of logic |
| 10:46.06 | abbat_w | Hahha, yep, menu not user friendly ;) |
| 10:46.26 | Sole | oh wow |
| 10:46.29 | Sole | it has a latency bar now as well |
| 10:46.38 | Azurewrath | Version checkers are great if you have update-lazy guildies.. like me. I prefer Antagonist+Chronometer over necb though ;) |
| 10:47.11 | Sole | what the hell should it matter in a cast time tracker though |
| 10:47.19 | abbat_w | Yep |
| 10:47.24 | abbat_w | Antagonist + Chronometer |
| 10:47.31 | Sole | Antagonist + ClassTimer for me |
| 10:47.48 | abbat_w | But i remove chronometer. I look at aura debuff timers with PitBull |
| 10:47.49 | Azurewrath | don't know, i just don't like people who run outdated software without a good reason ;) |
| 10:48.04 | Sole | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/16 |
| 10:48.25 | Sole | lol at the NECB cpu/mem info usage screenshot |
| 10:48.49 | Sole | it alone uses 490kb |
| 10:49.07 | Sole | 0.486s of cpu time in that SS |
| 10:49.22 | Azurewrath | hehe |
| 10:49.33 | Sole | I know that doesnt seem like much |
| 10:49.46 | Sole | but its a fair bit for an addon |
| 10:49.48 | Azurewrath | the die hard comic is nice.. but the movie just owns if you switch off your Brain |
| 10:50.01 | Sole | kinda like the harry potter movie :P |
| 10:50.06 | Sole | if youre a fan anyway |
| 10:50.15 | Sole | 5th movie made me cry |
| 10:50.15 | Azurewrath | Err.. no. |
| 10:50.18 | Sole | not literally |
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| 10:50.24 | Sole | it just didnt do the book justice at all |
| 10:50.36 | Azurewrath | seen Deathproof? ;) |
| 10:50.41 | Sole | nope |
| 10:51.05 | Azurewrath | it's even more stupid then Die Hard 4.. but fun |
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| 10:51.55 | Sole | another thing that annoys me about NECB is his change log is like an advertising campaign |
| 10:52.18 | Sole | "-- FINAL performance IMPROVEMENTS! --------------------------------" |
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| 10:53.18 | Azurewrath | i thought Natur stopped developing or something? |
| 10:53.54 | Sole | hes developing |
| 10:54.19 | Sole | although I dont know how he navigates through the jungle that is necb :P |
| 10:55.24 | Fisker- | SPARTA? |
| 10:55.34 | Sole | THIS IS MADNESS |
| 10:55.40 | Fisker- | nice |
| 10:55.42 | Azurewrath | haha |
| 10:55.44 | Fisker- | madness? |
| 10:56.13 | Azurewrath | 300 is also a great movie.. stupid but fun |
| 10:56.18 | Sole | yeah |
| 10:56.20 | Sole | fun movie |
| 10:57.44 | Fisker- | madness? |
| 10:57.52 | Sole | I want a cake |
| 10:57.56 | Punkie` | no you dont |
| 10:58.01 | Sole | youre right |
| 10:58.16 | Fisker- | there's acid in it :( |
| 10:58.23 | Punkie` | ssh Fisker-! |
| 10:58.33 | Punkie` | quick, give it to Sole now! |
| 10:58.44 | Sole | you'll have to pry my mouth open |
| 10:58.51 | Punkie` | that's possible |
| 10:58.55 | Fisker- | i'm no ssh server Punkie` |
| 10:58.55 | Sole | it is |
| 10:59.13 | Punkie` | Fisker-: you are now |
| 10:59.26 | Punkie` | got root? |
| 10:59.31 | Sole | FISKERDIN |
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| 11:00.53 | Fisker- | yeah Punkie` |
| 11:01.07 | cncfanatics | FISKERDIN ? :o |
| 11:01.13 | cncfanatics | cncdin > fiskerdin |
| 11:01.24 | Fisker- | no |
| 11:01.26 | Fisker- | NO |
| 11:02.37 | Azurewrath | madness! |
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| 11:02.43 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 11:02.47 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 11:04.51 | CIA-22 | 03poull 07poull * r44081 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartRes.toc): SmartRes: Direct target fix. |
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| 11:25.07 | cncfanatics | ~sparta |
| 11:25.08 | purl | This is madness! |
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| 11:27.36 | trh | they nerfed the lunacy card... it doesn't /Yell it anymore, only /say |
| 11:27.57 | cncfanatics | hmm ? |
| 11:28.03 | cncfanatics | what did lunacy use to /y ? |
| 11:29.32 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r44082 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartRes.toc): SmartRes: Fix from oRA2 for direct cast spells in UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT. |
| 11:30.58 | Mellow_ | just a dummy question, how do i bring a realtime dps window for my dps in recount? |
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| 11:34.54 | cncfanatics | by asking cnc and his amazing magicks |
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| 11:51.32 | mitch0 | . |
| 11:53.28 | Margus | ckknight: there? |
| 12:00.47 | ckknight | Margus: somewhat |
| 12:01.05 | Margus | UR PARROT CONFIG ROX |
| 12:01.44 | Margus | it's about 72% pimper ^^ |
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| 12:06.41 | cncfanatics | nah 0.72% |
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| 12:09.22 | pb_ee1 | MSBT seems full of possibilities, i'm exited to see how will behave parrot in it's final release ;) |
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| 12:11.01 | abyssichate | the latest revision covers pretty much all MSBT's features already |
| 12:12.04 | ckknight | also, there's no such thing as final release |
| 12:12.09 | pb_ee1 | i've tested it three or four days ago and i was already impressed |
| 12:12.28 | ckknight | abyssichate: hrm, what am I missing? |
| 12:12.30 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: sure :p |
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| 12:12.38 | abyssichate | ckknight: nothing that I can think of |
| 12:12.43 | ckknight | pb_ee1: it's been updated since then |
| 12:12.49 | ckknight | abyssichate: yea, I think I stole all of it, I believe |
| 12:12.55 | pb_ee1 | I know, i need to test it but can't right now, need to go home first :p |
| 12:13.01 | ckknight | I want to stick in SCT's animations |
| 12:13.14 | abyssichate | I've just configured so that it looks like my old MSBT setup and I got to say that it came out pretty well |
| 12:13.30 | abyssichate | I had some little issues with custom triggers though |
| 12:13.44 | abyssichate | they were not showing up at first, I had to untick and tick again the classes they were supposed to work for |
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| 12:13.59 | pb_ee1 | but i'm not found of these scroll addons, they are generally too spammy. But i like to test them a few hours to see what can be done with them ;-) |
| 12:14.08 | pb_ee1 | found -> fond? |
| 12:14.16 | pb_ee1 | xD |
| 12:14.48 | ckknight | abyssichate: hrm, odd |
| 12:15.03 | abyssichate | yeah, but the degree of customization is really high, I moved all the events from Notifications to Incoming so that I only had to move around and manage two scrolling areas to reduce the spam |
| 12:15.14 | abyssichate | ckknight: yeah, not much of an issue though, it's working as I wanted it to now |
| 12:15.21 | pb_ee1 | at the moment, i'm only using them for special events (overpower, execute, ...), do you think it's a sufficient reason to install Parrot? |
| 12:16.04 | abyssichate | no clue, I've always used a scrolling text addon so I don't see me playing without one |
| 12:16.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44083 10Parrot/Triggers.lua: Parrot_Triggers - rebuild the effective registry on creation and deletion of triggers. |
| 12:16.13 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 12:16.18 | ckknight | abyssichate: fixed :-P |
| 12:16.27 | abyssichate | that's what I call fast support |
| 12:16.48 | abyssichate | I'll play around with suppressions later |
| 12:16.51 | ckknight | pb_ee1: I'd say try it out |
| 12:16.55 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: how much is the license for 1 year support? :P |
| 12:17.03 | syeren | ckknight, could I suggets a new trigger event? |
| 12:17.05 | syeren | Buff Fade :p |
| 12:17.09 | syeren | For Fear Ward :P! |
| 12:17.11 | pb_ee1 | I'll do this, I wanted to give it a try anyway ;-) |
| 12:17.20 | ckknight | syeren: bah, complex. |
| 12:17.35 | abyssichate | ckknight: why are there parenthesis in the standard supressions? Because the default for buff gains and stuff is ([Skill])? |
| 12:17.36 | ckknight | syeren: doable, methinks, though |
| 12:17.53 | ckknight | abyssichate: it'll show up as (Fear Ward) |
| 12:17.58 | ckknight | you can change it to however you want. |
| 12:18.00 | abyssichate | *parentheses |
| 12:18.01 | abyssichate | yeah |
| 12:18.13 | ckknight | *[Skill]* will show up as * |
| 12:18.17 | Fisker- | buff ckknight |
| 12:18.18 | ckknight | *Fear Ward* |
| 12:18.26 | abyssichate | I edited it to show [Skill], so I guess I'll have to edit suppressions as well |
| 12:18.27 | abyssichate | yeah, I got it |
| 12:18.34 | Fisker- | btw in Parrot |
| 12:18.42 | Fisker- | it's like MSBT or SCT right? |
| 12:18.49 | abyssichate | more like MSBT |
| 12:18.50 | ckknight | ... |
| 12:18.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 12:18.54 | abyssichate | :E. |
| 12:18.58 | Fisker- | Can you abbreviate skills/spells? |
| 12:19.04 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r44084 10AtlasLoot/Documentation/Release Notes.txt: |
| 12:19.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:19.05 | CIA-22 | - Started changelog for next version so that nothing is forgotten |
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| 12:19.11 | Fisker- | I dislike having <zomglongname> <zomglongspellname> + 1 |
| 12:19.14 | Fisker- | :P |
| 12:19.18 | abyssichate | yeah, I removed the spell names |
| 12:19.28 | abyssichate | I kept only to see what spells get resisted |
| 12:19.34 | Fisker- | Not nessecarily remove but show "FoL" or similarily |
| 12:19.37 | Fisker- | depending on the skill |
| 12:19.39 | Fisker- | Like Buffalo |
| 12:19.55 | Fisker- | Buff icons have a little abbreviation under it |
| 12:20.03 | Fisker- | "GoTW" for Gift of The Wild for example |
| 12:20.17 | abyssichate | yes, aliases for spell names |
| 12:20.38 | Fisker- | ok, you have to add them yourself then or what? |
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| 12:20.56 | abyssichate | there is no such a feature in Parrot at the moment |
| 12:21.19 | ckknight | been thinking about adding abbreviations. |
| 12:22.16 | ckknight | so that it'd take the first letter of every word if it's multi-word, or just show the text itself otherwise |
| 12:23.08 | abyssichate | it wouldn't be bad I guess |
| 12:23.29 | ckknight | it'd be an option, though |
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| 12:25.35 | Matrix110 | Rainbow animation >all thats why MSBT/Parrot cant beat SCT :P |
| 12:25.39 | Hjalte | ckknight, I would like for the Execute trigger not to be shown in Defensive stance - but right now, I can only set 1 warrior stance condition, meaning that i have to choose between 1. all three stances or either battle or berserker stance, right? |
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| 12:26.09 | ckknight | you could make multiple triggers... |
| 12:27.31 | Boubouille | would it be possible to modify atlasloot to have it activate all the itemlinks without having to click each one of them ? |
| 12:29.22 | Hjalte | ckknight, i see. Would be nice though, if you could for example set secondary conditions twice or more :) |
| 12:30.05 | ckknight | well, the issue is that secondary conditions run an AND check |
| 12:30.05 | ckknight | not an OR check |
| 12:35.21 | cncfanatics | AND not defensive stance ? |
| 12:36.58 | Hjalte | Heh, cncfanatics, unfortunately that's not a possibility right now :) But it would indeed make a solution, to make an option to have the condition be a "not". |
| 12:37.19 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r44085 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: added new 2.2 flasks |
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| 12:39.01 | abbat_w | beep beep, i'm jeep? :) |
| 12:39.24 | ckknight | cncfanatics: oh, I could put a not warrior stance thing. |
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| 12:41.44 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 12:41.44 | CIA-22 | - Reduced what is done when SecureGroupHeader_Update is called. |
| 12:42.03 | cncfanatics | ckknight, you might as well put it in for everything then ? :p |
| 12:42.29 | ckknight | I'm gonna go to sleep |
| 12:42.44 | cncfanatics | :o |
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| 12:42.49 | cncfanatics | its 14:42 here heh |
| 12:43.04 | syeren | ckknight, I'll get you the results of the test later and leave them to you in PM okay? |
| 12:43.05 | Silviu- | 15:43 here ;p |
| 12:43.10 | ckknight | k |
| 12:43.15 | syeren | At the moment no priest will come outside Ironforge and Mana Burn me. |
| 12:43.27 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: did you answer my question?(regarding recount) |
| 12:43.38 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, could be |
| 12:43.43 | cncfanatics | been online all day long |
| 12:43.48 | Mellow_ | [13:30:50] < Mellow_> just a dummy question, how do i bring a realtime dps window for my dps in recount? |
| 12:43.49 | Mellow_ | [13:34:46] < cncfanatics> by asking cnc and his amazing magicks |
| 12:43.53 | Mellow_ | i mean this |
| 12:43.56 | cncfanatics | oh lol |
| 12:43.57 | cncfanatics | I was bored |
| 12:44.01 | Mellow_ | ah oaky |
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| 12:45.18 | abyssichate | oh, ckknight, there is actually something that is missing: sound playback option for triggers |
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| 12:46.36 | cncfanatics | ckknight went to bed I think |
| 12:46.45 | sb | abyssichate: mh playback option? |
| 12:46.52 | sb | ah sound |
| 12:46.52 | sb | mh |
| 12:47.03 | sb | MK sounds? :) |
| 12:47.13 | sb | execute = "finish him" |
| 12:47.20 | abyssichate | "fatality" |
| 12:47.25 | abyssichate | on KB |
| 12:47.39 | sb | whats KB? |
| 12:47.46 | abyssichate | killing blow |
| 12:47.53 | sb | %-) |
| 12:47.54 | sb | okay :p |
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| 12:49.47 | Wobin | "You'll regret that!" |
| 12:51.48 | Hemanse | hm this new WAU2 is kinda annoying, installed a whole bunch of old addons i dont use anymore :) |
| 12:52.18 | cncfanatics | hmmmmz |
| 12:52.27 | cncfanatics | can someone activate a gnomisch time distortion device ? |
| 12:52.38 | cncfanatics | 1h30 mins till my work is done, someone make them pass instantly |
| 12:52.46 | Matrix110 | *wooosh* |
| 12:52.50 | Matrix110 | you can go home now |
| 12:53.10 | cncfanatics | still 14:53 on me clock :( |
| 12:53.31 | Matrix110 | not on the clock from your chef! |
| 12:53.38 | cncfanatics | riiight |
| 12:53.44 | cncfanatics | ah wlel |
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| 12:58.50 | cncfanatics | http://www.hostip.info/ sucks then |
| 12:58.58 | cncfanatics | mt |
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| 13:04.02 | break19|Zzzz | aguf + waterfall = me cry.. : http://ace.pastey.net/71001 |
| 13:04.26 | cncfanatics | break19µ |
| 13:04.31 | cncfanatics | there were commits to waterfall today |
| 13:04.32 | cncfanatics | try updating |
| 13:04.42 | break19|Zzzz | I did like 5mins ago. heh |
| 13:04.43 | Grum | ag_UnitFrames-05-01-07 <-- seems *very* old :P |
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| 13:04.46 | ccKep | woshh |
| 13:05.01 | ccKep | anybody here using bartender3 + cyCircled ? |
| 13:05.14 | Grum | yeah i do |
| 13:05.36 | Grum | occasionally have troubles applying cyCircled skins - relogging and then somehow the spacing is fcked :) |
| 13:05.40 | Grum | fscked even :) |
| 13:05.42 | abbat_w | i'm using |
| 13:05.53 | ccKep | it f*ucks up my buttons |
| 13:05.54 | abbat_w | Grum, which skin you use? |
| 13:05.59 | Grum | Onyx |
| 13:06.01 | abbat_w | Onix? |
| 13:06.02 | ccKep | let's say I have bartender bar3 set to 12 buttons |
| 13:06.03 | abbat_w | heh |
| 13:06.07 | ccKep | 12 buttons, 1 row |
| 13:06.09 | abbat_w | i see same problem with onix |
| 13:06.17 | Grum | i see no reason why tbh |
| 13:06.20 | ccKep | it then shows 8 buttons, 9th is hidden, 10-12 shown again |
| 13:06.22 | abbat_w | now i use vol and it's ok |
| 13:06.23 | Grum | the 'layout' files seem the same O.o |
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| 13:06.38 | Grum | but it is ok, restart/reloadui fixes it |
| 13:06.50 | ccKep | like in http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/interface/WoWScrnShot_071807_145819.jpg (not really my choice, just creating an interface for soem friends) |
| 13:06.51 | Grum | ccKep: happen to have 'hide unused buttons' on? :) |
| 13:07.00 | ccKep | that buttons aren't unused |
| 13:07.19 | Grum | so you are saying it doesnt happen when you dont load cyCircled? :) |
| 13:07.22 | Daemona | hahahaha www.omahabitch.com |
| 13:07.24 | Daemona | > all |
| 13:07.28 | ccKep | if I go to bartender3 options, scroll the "buttons" slider to 1, then to 12 again all buttons are correct again |
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| 13:07.52 | ccKep | let say I didn't have that problems earlier |
| 13:08.16 | Grum | you said it had something to do with cyCircled :) |
| 13:08.21 | Grum | just curious how you deducted that |
| 13:08.45 | ccKep | I didn't have that disappearing buttons stuff before I installed cyCircled |
| 13:09.01 | ccKep | or maybe I just didn't see it... |
| 13:09.11 | Grum | so if you uninstall cyCircled does it go away? :p |
| 13:09.13 | ccKep | but I don't see a reason why original bartender3 would just hide certain buttons :o |
| 13:09.41 | ccKep | it doesn't always go away, it just happens every now and then... don't know what its connected to |
| 13:09.45 | cncfanatics | ccKep, its a known bug |
| 13:09.51 | cncfanatics | but nevcairiel cba to fix it |
| 13:10.11 | Grum | well cncfanatics said a bit ago: |
| 13:10.11 | Grum | [11:04:46] <cncfanatics> I noticed that sometimes buttons with a spell on get hidden when the hide empty buttons option is checked |
| 13:10.35 | Grum | so the solution would be: uncheck hide empty buttons =D |
| 13:11.21 | ccKep | I didn't check to hide empty buttons afaik... that buttons aren't even empty Oo... |
| 13:11.22 | Grum | cncfanatics: can you make an 'attack keyboard shortcut'-mode to flexbar |
| 13:11.39 | Grum | so you can just go into that mode, select a button, and then choose whatever keybinding you want for it |
| 13:12.05 | cncfanatics | Grum, I should first get a ready version :p |
| 13:12.17 | Grum | instead of having to do: button number 50 should be 'E' ... open shortcut menu .. scroll through 1000000000000 options .... then set it ... next button |
| 13:12.17 | cncfanatics | and what do you mean with that ? |
| 13:12.36 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 13:12.45 | cncfanatics | well, when you create a button you will be able to choose its settings ofc |
| 13:12.49 | Grum | setting keybindings via the normal menu scuks hairy goat balls |
| 13:12.50 | cncfanatics | also |
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| 13:12.54 | cncfanatics | I'm planning to include a config mode |
| 13:13.06 | cncfanatics | when you click a button, u'll be able to edit its options while in config mode |
| 13:13.13 | cncfanatics | instead of having to find out its name if you don't know it |
| 13:13.13 | Grum | nice :) |
| 13:13.21 | cncfanatics | config mode on, click it, set options |
| 13:13.32 | abbat_w | ccKep, i have same problem with onyx skin. After i switch to Vol i never see this problem |
| 13:13.39 | Grum | maybe select multiple buttons (or all) with a modifier and apply the changes to those buttons as well? =D |
| 13:13.41 | break19|Zzzz | ccKep: turn off "reuse blizzard buttons" |
| 13:13.41 | cncfanatics | I first need more code though, at work atm so coding is slacky |
| 13:13.52 | cncfanatics | Grum, that might get tricky, but why not |
| 13:14.01 | abbat_w | break19|Zzzz, it's not help me ;) |
| 13:14.04 | cncfanatics | one step at the time :) |
| 13:14.04 | Grum | not sure how it would be tricky |
| 13:14.17 | cncfanatics | with tricky I mean, i'm too lazy to do it atm |
| 13:14.17 | Grum | make your interface so you can apply a set of options to a button number |
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| 13:14.23 | Grum | ah k ;D |
| 13:14.26 | cncfanatics | and atm |
| 13:14.29 | cncfanatics | the only thing I got is a core |
| 13:14.33 | cncfanatics | that can generate empty buttons |
| 13:14.37 | cncfanatics | not very usefull yet :) |
| 13:14.46 | Grum | beats a core which cant generate buttons! |
| 13:14.47 | cncfanatics | and i'm at work so I cant rly code that kind of GUI stuff |
| 13:14.57 | cncfanatics | work end in 1h16 |
| 13:15.00 | cncfanatics | then 1h travelling |
| 13:15.05 | cncfanatics | so home in 2h16 aprox |
| 13:15.18 | Grum | do you actually play wow alongside this coding ? ;) |
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| 13:15.31 | SpiderFLS | hi |
| 13:15.33 | Grum | i cant imagine really finding time to code stuff and raid =D |
| 13:16.03 | cncfanatics | Grum, thats why my coding goes very very very very very very .... (x1000000) very slowly |
| 13:16.11 | Grum | :P |
| 13:16.14 | ccKep | break19: thx, hope it helps :o |
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| 13:16.44 | Grum | <3 Grid btw ;) |
| 13:16.50 | break19 | ccKep: its a known issue.. I dun even know why they have the damn option, I cant tell that it actually does anything except make my buttons disappear randomly |
| 13:16.56 | Grum | i cant see how can you raid without it =D |
| 13:17.00 | Grum | as a healer that is ;D |
| 13:17.21 | SpiderFLS | i have a question about grid, if im the only in a group with grid i only see incoming heals from myself, but when the others use grid i also see the incoming heals from them. why doesent it display them when im the only one with grid? |
| 13:17.44 | break19 | SpiderFLS: think about it.... |
| 13:17.46 | Grum | how would you figure it would know what who is healing whom with? |
| 13:17.57 | Grum | dang that is a low of w's :D |
| 13:18.23 | SpiderFLS | so why does it work for hots? is that so different? |
| 13:18.26 | break19 | SpiderFLS: kinda like "when I have a phone I can have people who a phone call me, but those who dont have a phone cant, why?" |
| 13:18.31 | Grum | think again SpiderFLS |
| 13:18.43 | Grum | HoT == BUFF .. Buffs can be seen |
| 13:18.51 | Grum | if i am casting something at someone you can't know what i am casting at |
| 13:18.53 | break19 | because hots always have a set amount of heal, and once you get the buff, you know how much its going to heal. |
| 13:19.11 | Grum | not true break |
| 13:19.23 | SpiderFLS | so grid is sending informations to other grid users? |
| 13:19.30 | Grum | no |
| 13:19.34 | Grum | it can only track certain casts |
| 13:19.42 | Grum | where people target someone and then cast a heal on that target |
| 13:19.46 | break19 | grum: yea.. they always have a set amount.. it might not the same set amount each time.. but its a KNOWN amount the second it's cast.. |
| 13:19.50 | Grum | or do a prayer of healing |
| 13:19.57 | Grum | break19: again not true |
| 13:20.05 | Grum | you only know the amount after the first tick has gone off |
| 13:20.18 | Grum | actually, after you see at tick which has done some healing |
| 13:20.30 | break19 | grum: why you nitpicking |
| 13:20.34 | break19 | geezus |
| 13:20.39 | Grum | because what you say isn't true |
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| 13:20.51 | break19 | the general idea of what I said is the same damn thing as what you said |
| 13:20.51 | Grum | the second you 'gain renew' you have no idea how much healing it will be |
| 13:20.57 | Grum | nope |
| 13:21.02 | cncfanatics | lets just saty |
| 13:21.12 | cncfanatics | you cant guess for how much something heals before it at least goes off once |
| 13:21.14 | Grum | you have to wait for the first: 'you gain xxx health by blabla's renew' orso :P |
| 13:21.24 | cncfanatics | and as direct heals only go off once |
| 13:21.32 | break19 | grum, so what.. you dont think that as soon as it hits you, it starts healing? duh |
| 13:21.32 | cncfanatics | u canttrack them if the other healers dont got the addon |
| 13:21.44 | Grum | break19: again you are wrong and that is not the case |
| 13:21.50 | Grum | put a hot on a person with full health |
| 13:21.56 | cncfanatics | it wont do shit |
| 13:22.01 | cncfanatics | no events, only a buffgain |
| 13:22.03 | break19 | no shit sherlock |
| 13:22.05 | Grum | then before tick5, remove 1hp, the first tick will be the last tick |
| 13:22.44 | break19 | but jesus fuckin christ.. why do some people have to always be right |
| 13:22.44 | Grum | so again you are wrong with stating you can see how much HP it will give when you apply a HOT |
| 13:22.59 | Grum | dude, you are saying 'no' when the answer is 'yes' .. |
| 13:23.27 | break19 | no jackass, I'm just explaining it differently than you.. I mean the same goddamn thing you do.. |
| 13:23.35 | Grum | you are not saying the same thing :) |
| 13:23.41 | break19 | see? my point |
| 13:24.05 | SpiderFLS | so if there is no communication between grid why does it only show if both have grid? i dont get it o_O |
| 13:24.07 | Grum | you say: everyone sucks! while i say 'you suck' .. and you mean 'you suck' .. so 'everyone sucks' is wrong :) |
| 13:24.18 | Grum | no there is no extra communication SpiderFLS |
| 13:24.22 | cncfanatics | SpiderFLS, grid will communicate with other grid users |
| 13:24.26 | Grum | not for heals |
| 13:24.34 | pastamancer | yes there is |
| 13:24.40 | pastamancer | it's CastComm |
| 13:24.41 | break19 | and a dev speaks up |
| 13:24.56 | Grum | pastamancer: yeah i was just typing there was a module 'underway' which could share healing estimates |
| 13:25.03 | Grum | but that isn't bound to grid in specifics |
| 13:25.30 | Grum | and afaik it uses it's own generic protocol which any addon can tap in to |
| 13:25.32 | pastamancer | CastComm sends the target of non-instant spell casts because the blizzard events don't |
| 13:26.08 | Grum | fixes that also the problem with 'mouseover' spells? |
| 13:26.14 | cncfanatics | Grum, IncomingHeals is already around |
| 13:26.37 | Grum | cncfanatics: grid module? afaik that one doesn't share just monitors what is casting at what |
| 13:27.00 | Grum | ah |
| 13:27.04 | Grum | that is the library indeed :D |
| 13:27.13 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 13:27.29 | Grum | would be nice if blizzard had that itself |
| 13:27.32 | Josh_Borke | CastCommLib is also around |
| 13:27.47 | Josh_Borke | oh, pasta already mentioned it |
| 13:27.54 | Grum | yeah but incoming heals is better as it estimates your amount of healing afaik |
| 13:28.11 | Grum | thus making it actually usefull for taking in account +healing/talents |
| 13:29.01 | cncfanatics | does any addon use the library anyway N |
| 13:29.13 | Grum | lets look up grid :) |
| 13:29.57 | Grum | ## OptionalDeps: .... CastCommLib, .... |
| 13:30.09 | cncfanatics | IncomingHeals not castcomm |
| 13:30.09 | Grum | but no IncomingHeals, maybe in a plugin for grid :) |
| 13:30.18 | cncfanatics | wonder if pitbull uses it |
| 13:30.22 | cncfanatics | would be handy on pitbull raid frames |
| 13:30.30 | cncfanatics | like the estimateheals addon already does, but for everyone else too |
| 13:30.40 | cncfanatics | i'm a tank, so it would be DAMN handy to see what heals are inc on me |
| 13:30.57 | Grum | aww you want to be assured you are not forgotten? ;D |
| 13:31.01 | pastamancer | oh you silly tanks |
| 13:31.06 | Grum | (yeah yeah i know why you wantto know it :P) |
| 13:31.11 | Grum | so you can smash panicbuttons ;D |
| 13:31.16 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:31.35 | cncfanatics | how often did u have "shit, the heal was 0.1 sec from landing sry" |
| 13:31.41 | Grum | my gf is the main tank, how often it tell her 'greater in 1s' :) |
| 13:31.52 | Grum | *i tell her |
| 13:31.57 | Grum | yeah |
| 13:32.05 | Grum | but you cant solve that tbh |
| 13:32.20 | Grum | unless you have a 'casttimer' in each of those small healing-parts you see |
| 13:32.25 | Grum | that would be wicked :D |
| 13:32.30 | QD-san | ckknight - lovin parrot |
| 13:32.43 | Grum | [......][1.5k 0.3s][4.7k 2.3s] etc =D |
| 13:32.46 | QD-san | and yea spell alias' would be pro |
| 13:32.47 | QD-san | :P |
| 13:32.53 | pastamancer | isn't that what visualheals does? |
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| 13:34.04 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, it is ? :o |
| 13:34.07 | cncfanatics | GIEV |
| 13:34.09 | Grum | pastamancer: yeah but it doesn't seem to take in account buffs you can have from gems/sets |
| 13:34.34 | cncfanatics | ~vhaarr |
| 13:34.35 | purl | i guess vhaarr is the fastest updater in the west. |
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| 13:35.33 | cncfanatics | hmmm so if incomingheals support was included into pitbull, with those small castbars |
| 13:35.42 | cncfanatics | then if everyone gets the incomingheals library I <3 |
| 13:36.19 | pastamancer | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/VisualHeal/ |
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| 13:38.00 | Grum | cncfanatics: tbh blizzard should fix their damn event system |
| 13:40.21 | Grum | there is also a library: HealComm-2.0 |
| 13:40.37 | Grum | oh .. SIGH :P |
| 13:40.41 | cncfanatics | Grum, I agree, they shld add WAY WAY WAY more events, but well |
| 13:40.49 | cncfanatics | go try to get slouken to do that |
| 13:41.08 | Grum | slouken? :) |
| 13:41.50 | Grum | it sucks that 'HealCom' has a spellbook scanner etfc |
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| 13:42.15 | Grum | isn't there any generic module which can do that? that stuff like DrDamage and any other addon can then use? :) |
| 13:42.53 | cncfanatics | slouken = WoW UI dev |
| 13:43.01 | cncfanatics | he does all UI stuff pretty much |
| 13:43.05 | Grum | the changes should be rather easy |
| 13:43.21 | cncfanatics | hmmm, well |
| 13:43.29 | cncfanatics | it would be a bit lame to know for how much a spell will heal before its casted |
| 13:43.32 | Grum | ideally i'd also see stuff like 'blabla heals you for 123 (123)' |
| 13:43.40 | Grum | you cant know exactly |
| 13:43.42 | Fatalis`timeout | which version of .net framework is required for the updater? |
| 13:43.45 | Fatalis`timeout | 2.0? |
| 13:43.48 | cncfanatics | 5.0 |
| 13:44.00 | Grum | but you can for example give the avg from min and max non-crit orso :) |
| 13:44.00 | Fisker- | 3.5!11 |
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| 13:44.17 | Fatalis`timeout | oh come on. |
| 13:44.26 | sb | mahh *selfstab* |
| 13:44.35 | cncfanatics | ok, 9.0, due out in Q3 2065 |
| 13:44.42 | cncfanatics | ~mourn sb |
| 13:44.42 | purl | ACTION lights some candles for sb |
| 13:44.46 | Grum | 2 O.o |
| 13:44.52 | Grum | or 2.1 |
| 13:44.55 | Grum | who cares .. install the lot |
| 13:45.01 | cncfanatics | lies |
| 13:45.15 | sb | damn #*&@! potter book |
| 13:45.26 | cncfanatics | eh ? u read gay books ? |
| 13:45.36 | Grum | how else would he stay g... |
| 13:45.56 | sb | no, last few pages - and cant tell my g/f about the end... :o |
| 13:46.06 | Grum | do you want to? |
| 13:46.18 | nevcairiel | write it on her mirror or something |
| 13:46.22 | sb | :p |
| 13:46.27 | Morghus | sb: You got the last book now? Oo |
| 13:46.44 | Grum | if you want to die you might want to tell her, so i doubt you want to tell her unless you want to die .. so just dont? :D |
| 13:47.14 | Morghus | "but but but Grum... the look on her face... it ... it... I think it might be worth it..." |
| 13:47.15 | Morghus | :P |
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| 13:47.16 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 13:47.16 | CIA-22 | - Added locale esES thanks to Ferroginus (Zul'Jin) |
| 13:47.27 | sb | Grum: yeah but it eats me not being able to talk about it :p |
| 13:47.38 | Grum | see someone about that, that is not normal ;D |
| 13:47.53 | Morghus | Which book sb? =) |
| 13:47.55 | sb | Morghus: http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/07/17/potter_leaked/index.html |
| 13:48.06 | Morghus | Aaaah |
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| 13:50.08 | Morghus | You mean to tell me someone actually managed to get a hold of an authentic copy of Harry Potter, despite security measures for up to $120 million? :P |
| 13:50.23 | cncfanatics | b |
| 13:50.26 | cncfanatics | sb |
| 13:50.27 | cncfanatics | where to dl that ? |
| 13:50.35 | cncfanatics | if it leaked, u can dl it |
| 13:50.36 | Morghus | Looks to be piratebay |
| 13:50.47 | Tornhoof | piratebay etc. |
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| 13:50.59 | Morghus | Holy crap hahha |
| 13:51.03 | Morghus | 24 mins ago |
| 13:51.04 | cncfanatics | looks like the author got owned ? |
| 13:51.24 | Grum | HealComm is kinda good |
| 13:51.43 | Grum | xbeeps++ :) |
| 13:52.15 | Grum | now force every healer to use it .. mmm :D |
| 13:52.54 | cncfanatics | think JK rowling got owned |
| 13:52.59 | cncfanatics | hmmm should I read it |
| 13:53.24 | Tornhoof | i dun like harry potter |
| 13:53.57 | sb | cncfanatics: dont... :P |
| 13:54.35 | sb | esp. dont if you know ppl who do want to read the book in 3 days :o |
| 13:54.41 | Grum | just download the movie ;) |
| 13:54.45 | Grum | and watch it while grinding |
| 13:57.14 | sb | hm lol - i just read in some forum that there is a video out there where they guy with the book tells you everything about it %-) |
| 14:02.12 | Grum | does the wowclient report cast-times btw? |
| 14:02.36 | Grum | or how does that work? :P tooltip parsing etc? :) |
| 14:03.05 | Josh_Borke | you get start and end time |
| 14:03.27 | Matrix110 | But the endtime isnt static |
| 14:03.36 | Matrix110 | so you can see interrupts etc. |
| 14:03.54 | Grum | so when you start casting you know the cast-start-time and you get 'ETA in xxx time' ? |
| 14:04.43 | Josh_Borke | spell, rank, displayName, icon, startTime, endTime, isTradeSkill = UnitCastingInfo(senderUnit) |
| 14:04.44 | Mellow_ | does anybody can suggest an addon which blocks the whispers?(im a priest and ive had enough "hi <put your instance here>"), i tried to use shutup on files.wowace.com, but looks like it doesnt work |
| 14:04.48 | Josh_Borke | !api UnitCastingInfo |
| 14:04.50 | ThraeBot | Josh_Borke: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitCastingInfo |
| 14:06.08 | Grum | Josh_Borke: and i suppose there is also an event for 'CASTING_DELAYED' or something similar? (or INTERRUPTED) |
| 14:06.32 | Josh_Borke | http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/CastCommLib/CastCommLib.lua <-- read the comments, pastamancer went to great lengths for this lib |
| 14:08.01 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowwiki.com/2.0_consolidated_changes <-- shows what the "new" events are |
| 14:08.15 | Grum | WTB more new events ;) |
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| 14:09.44 | Gnancy | e |
| 14:09.50 | Grum | f |
| 14:09.55 | Gnancy | lol sorry |
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| 14:13.35 | Esteth | Just realised there's an official blizzard interface kit available for dowload. Anyone know what's in there, before i spend the time downloading it? |
| 14:14.02 | Josh_Borke | ~framexml |
| 14:14.02 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 14:14.26 | Esteth | thanks :) |
| 14:14.45 | Grum | basicly anything which resides in the mpq files |
| 14:16.03 | Esteth | ohh, so it lets you take a look inside the blizzard_* "addons"? If so, seems like a must-have :) |
| 14:16.10 | cncfanatics | it does |
| 14:16.19 | cncfanatics | must-have ? kinda |
| 14:16.48 | Esteth | i'm new to UI-ing, so it's nice to be able to see how certain things are done "the right way" :) |
| 14:17.48 | trh | Esteth: read http://wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips too =) |
| 14:19.45 | Esteth | ooh, thanks :) |
| 14:21.32 | Josh_Borke | Esteth: blizzard doesn't do things the right wall |
| 14:21.35 | Josh_Borke | s/wall/waay/ |
| 14:21.43 | Josh_Borke | s/wall/way/ |
| 14:21.49 | trh | yeah.. the blizzard code is bad :( |
| 14:21.56 | Esteth | oh :S |
| 14:21.59 | trh | looks very messed up when you start with it |
| 14:22.11 | Esteth | I suppose it's very different from ace2, aswell, by the looks of things |
| 14:22.20 | Josh_Borke | VERY different |
| 14:22.35 | trh | well.. do you remember when basic got functions/procedurs |
| 14:22.38 | trh | res? |
| 14:22.39 | krka | hmm... it says table lookups are O(log n) |
| 14:22.44 | krka | clearly lua tables have O(1) lookup |
| 14:22.56 | trh | it's like when all people started coding at that place trying to make alot of functions ;) |
| 14:23.08 | Esteth | ahh :P |
| 14:23.34 | trh | the time, when OO-thinking wasn't born yet ;) |
| 14:24.02 | Esteth | 36,000,000 years ago! |
| 14:26.52 | Esteth | Is there an addon that lets me see in real-time what events are triggered as i play? |
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| 14:29.52 | mitch0 | eh, it seems that whoever came up with the toc versions was drunk constantly ;) |
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| 14:30.12 | Health | okay |
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| 14:30.57 | krka | those are good coding tips actually |
| 14:32.25 | Esteth | Just finished looking through them all, and lots of it went over my head :P |
| 14:32.39 | Mikk | Esteth: iriel's devtools |
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| 14:33.50 | Esteth | I don't even know what a metatable is yet :P |
| 14:33.55 | Esteth | Mikk: Thanks :D |
| 14:38.16 | Fisker- | chocolate rain Mikk |
| 14:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:33] <Esteth> I don't even know what a metatable is yet :P <--metatables are what break secu.... *me SILENCED all of suddent* |
| 14:39.46 | trh | metatables are normal tables where you can define the behaviour yourself |
| 14:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn |
| 14:41.04 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 14:41.15 | Mikk | one part of is is c++ operator overrideish, i.e. you can define what happens if you take two tables of a certain kind and add them to eachother |
| 14:41.28 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't change the fact that they break some things that shouldn't be broken :P |
| 14:41.45 | Mikk | but perhaps the more interesting aspect of it is you can hook what happens if something is accessed that doesn't yet exist |
| 14:43.00 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44088 10Links/Links.lua: Links: Make life easier for skinner. |
| 14:47.21 | Esteth | Thanks all for the explanation on metatables :) had browser fullscreened over irc, so didn't see the responses |
| 14:47.28 | pastamancer | hrm |
| 14:47.59 | pastamancer | I wonder if messages from SendAddonMessage can be received out-of-order |
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| 14:49.07 | Mikk | Yeah I've been wondering the same |
| 14:49.27 | Mikk | I assume they can't, since we're talking TCP streams in both ends and probably a nice ordered queue on the server |
| 14:49.32 | Mikk | But I half don't want to assume that either |
| 14:49.35 | pastamancer | this sounds like a job for science! |
| 14:50.14 | Mikk | Worst case, blizz uses some UDP based protocol for signalling internally |
| 14:50.19 | pastamancer | I always figured wow used udp |
| 14:50.34 | Mikk | Which leaves open the possibility of one packet overtaking another across a network of switches |
| 14:50.43 | Mikk | Hm? No, WoW uses TCP for client takl |
| 14:50.43 | pastamancer | quite |
| 14:51.00 | pastamancer | everquest used udp |
| 14:51.40 | deltron | probably still does eh |
| 14:53.12 | trh | Mikk: test it =) |
| 14:55.28 | mitch0 | there is "out-of-band" traffic in TCP, too (dunno what's the discussion is about though :) |
| 14:56.47 | krka | i bet blizzard sends things in order |
| 14:56.54 | krka | mostly because it would make things easier for themselves |
| 14:57.00 | krka | if they send game data over the same stream |
| 14:57.19 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing is "in order" with TCP. |
| 14:57.27 | krka | orly? |
| 14:57.30 | sag_ich_nicht | except for the packet sequencing number |
| 14:57.47 | pastamancer | that's a big except :p |
| 14:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | packets get delayed |
| 14:58.02 | sag_ich_nicht | and one may arrive before the other altho they were sent in different order :P |
| 14:58.16 | sag_ich_nicht | thus not in order :P |
| 14:58.24 | krka | sure, but the application gets them in order |
| 14:58.38 | pastamancer | re-assembling the stream is handled by the network stack, so as far as the application is concerned, it is "in order" |
| 14:58.49 | krka | PWND |
| 14:58.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:58] <krka> sure, but the application gets them in order <--uuuuuuuunless it's a packet sniffer >:P |
| 14:59.11 | krka | that's not technically tcp then |
| 14:59.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 14:59.31 | krka | it's lower level network protocol |
| 14:59.52 | sag_ich_nicht | we are accessing layer 4 TCP. sounds pretty tcp to me :P |
| 15:00.55 | krka | hmm... the drivers or whatever should keep tcp packets until they are in order |
| 15:01.04 | krka | sniffers look at data link layer or something |
| 15:01.36 | break19 | ya know? we're SUCH nerds.. discussing the ins n outs of TCP/IP :p |
| 15:01.36 | pastamancer | packet sniffers don't count because they're not tcp clients |
| 15:02.02 | break19 | packet sniffers look the IP packet. not the TCP.. the TCP is on top of the IP packet |
| 15:02.04 | krka | pastamancer: yeah, that's what i tried to say, but probably failed to |
| 15:02.16 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 15:02.26 | pastamancer | for the purpose of SendAddonMessage in the wow client, using TCP means we should receive the messages in order |
| 15:03.14 | break19 | so sayeth the pastamancer! |
| 15:04.00 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer there is a small difference tho |
| 15:04.14 | sag_ich_nicht | you will not see that you have sent the message successful until the server has passed it back to you |
| 15:04.31 | sag_ich_nicht | this goes for chat and for addon communication and can easily be verified by sending yourself a whisper |
| 15:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 15:06.11 | pastamancer | yes, and? |
| 15:06.47 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing and, with TCP/IP it would display instantly as sent and then you'd get an ICMP error back at some point maybe :P |
| 15:08.40 | pastamancer | all I'm concerned with is the order |
| 15:08.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 15:10.26 | krka | there must be order! |
| 15:11.00 | Mikk | yeah. we know that client<>server is in order. that's a given pretty much. |
| 15:11.05 | Mikk | no need to discuss how tcp works. |
| 15:11.14 | Mikk | what worries me is that we don't know for sure what happens serverside |
| 15:11.30 | krka | why would the serverside change things? |
| 15:11.41 | Mikk | scenario: |
| 15:11.55 | Mikk | what we see as one single IP is actually several machines behind a load balancer |
| 15:12.05 | Mikk | blizzard uses UDP to communicate between these machines |
| 15:12.15 | krka | no wai |
| 15:13.20 | krka | you're connected to multiple servers? |
| 15:13.26 | krka | or constantly swapping? |
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| 15:14.50 | |Pixel| | o_O |
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| 15:15.20 | Coruss | [:) |
| 15:16.43 | Mikk | ehm i don't think you understand how load balancers work :P |
| 15:17.08 | break19 | Mikk: its not a hypothetical... |
| 15:17.24 | Mikk | for any kind of TCP load balancing, you obviously have to keep state - one TCP connection made to one server will have to keep talking to that server |
| 15:17.36 | break19 | thats how they do it.. thats how come sometimes you can lag while looting, but can still talk etc |
| 15:17.57 | Mikk | well yeah i know that the communications frontend box is different from the game logic box for sure |
| 15:18.24 | Mikk | question is if there's several communications frontend boxes for a single realm |
| 15:18.34 | break19 | i can have a 52ms latency ingame, but I get 500ms with /bin/ping to the server that I'm showing as connected to in netstat |
| 15:18.41 | break19 | things like that.. |
| 15:19.03 | break19 | yea. I'm pretty sure they're "login server" is actually a load balanced network |
| 15:19.05 | Mikk | yeah you kinda need to tcp ping to get reliable numbers as soon as load balancing and traffic shaping are involved |
| 15:19.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:19] <break19> yea. I'm pretty sure they're "login server" is actually a load balanced network <--THEIR |
| 15:19.21 | Mikk | they tend to drop icmp on the floor :P |
| 15:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | THEY ARE=THEY'RE |
| 15:19.27 | Coruss | the world server (that manages logins) would have to be load balanced |
| 15:19.31 | sag_ich_nicht | their=their property |
| 15:19.31 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: yea. I realized it as soon as I'd typed it |
| 15:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 15:19.35 | break19 | its too early :p |
| 15:19.49 | Mikk | well, yeah, but the login server is quite separate from the realm boxes |
| 15:19.56 | Mikk | as witnessed by you being able to play when login is dead |
| 15:19.58 | Coruss | aye |
| 15:20.08 | Coruss | and by single server drops |
| 15:20.19 | cryogen | login server is even in an entirely different datacentre |
| 15:20.23 | CIA-22 | 03laric * r44089 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.lua AoFDKP_sets.lua dkp_list.lua): |
| 15:20.23 | CIA-22 | AoFDKP : |
| 15:20.23 | CIA-22 | -Mutliclass item fixes. Added the class bound items from Gruuls lair. |
| 15:20.28 | Coruss | i.e. everyone on outland dropping out, but eastern kingdoms being fine |
| 15:20.29 | Matrix110 | There are several Login Servers several Datacenters |
| 15:20.45 | Matrix110 | and each realm consist of atleast 5 machines |
| 15:20.49 | cryogen | indeed, "world servers" |
| 15:20.50 | Matrix110 | if not more |
| 15:20.50 | Kaydeethree | there's a whole bunch of login servers. they're load balanced via dns. try doing a nslookup on us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 15:20.58 | cryogen | hence "world server is down ":) |
| 15:21.04 | Mikk | so.. anyway.. yeah |
| 15:21.09 | Coruss | Matrix110: eastern kingdoms, kalimdor, outland, instance, db |
| 15:21.09 | Mikk | ignore login server -- it's not related |
| 15:21.27 | Mikk | we know that the communications frontend is separate from the game logic server(s) |
| 15:21.38 | Mikk | so.. can there be multiple communications frontends? |
| 15:21.55 | Mikk | we know for a fact that you can communicate with players from different realms in BGs |
| 15:22.03 | Mikk | so obviously there's SOME intercomms going on |
| 15:22.22 | Coruss | Mikk: I'm not sure about that |
| 15:22.22 | Mikk | yeah well you know it all already so why don't you just spill, bastidh :P |
| 15:22.23 | cryogen | Mikk: but player names are suffixed with their home server |
| 15:22.25 | cryogen | so it's kinda special |
| 15:22.31 | Kaydeethree | I was under the impression that there's one realm-wide chatserver, one bg-wide chatserver and the instance servers |
| 15:22.41 | pastamancer | if I had to guess, I'd say one chat server per cluster/battlegroup |
| 15:22.46 | pastamancer | bah, too slow |
| 15:22.48 | Coruss | Mikk: I would imagine there's a specific battlegroup wide instance server for arena/bgs |
| 15:22.58 | |Pixel| | Mikk: I'd love to |
| 15:22.59 | Mikk | yes, that's the _game logic_ server bit |
| 15:23.03 | Mikk | i'm talking about the comms frontend |
| 15:23.07 | Antiarc|Wor1 | I think it all just runs on magic. |
| 15:23.14 | |Pixel| | and gnomes |
| 15:23.14 | cryogen | magic and voodoo |
| 15:23.15 | Kaydeethree | the real answer! |
| 15:23.23 | |Pixel| | gnomes in little wheels |
| 15:23.29 | |Pixel| | making it all spinning |
| 15:23.45 | |Pixel| | 17:20 < Matrix110> and each realm consist of atleast 5 machines |
| 15:23.50 | Mikk | |Pixel|: actually, the answer we're trying to deduce is "can communication between two players go out of order?" |
| 15:23.54 | |Pixel| | where does that assumption come from btw ? |
| 15:24.02 | cryogen | Mikk: i think the answer is "i doubt it" :) |
| 15:24.08 | |Pixel| | I can give you some hints: |
| 15:24.10 | cryogen | how or why, who knows! |
| 15:24.20 | |Pixel| | from what happened to players in the past |
| 15:24.30 | Matrix110 | Well it could be possible to run EK/Kalimdor on 1 Server but i doubt it |
| 15:24.31 | |Pixel| | (so, I am just giving out informations that you could get from other people) |
| 15:24.48 | |Pixel| | it happened quite some time that people went stuck in a battleground |
| 15:24.48 | Mikk | rephrase: we know that each realm runs at least 5 processes since they can crash independently. whether or not they're on different boxes is conjecture :P |
| 15:24.48 | Matrix110 | And by knowing how others MMORPGs got hosted |
| 15:24.54 | |Pixel| | their original server beeing busted |
| 15:25.00 | Matrix110 | i think it uses more than 5machines |
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| 15:25.25 | |Pixel| | it also happened quite some time that some people are able to *communicate* with people from another realm |
| 15:25.35 | |Pixel| | using mail, or using direct whispers, after a cross battleground |
| 15:25.54 | |Pixel| | also, about the number of machines |
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| 15:25.57 | Matrix110 | Well that just says that the Servers are communicating |
| 15:25.59 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: I don't believe so, no |
| 15:26.13 | |Pixel| | keep in mind that it happens quite often that people in, like, kalimdor, are kicked off |
| 15:26.27 | |Pixel| | while everyone else in azeroth or outland or instances are still in the game |
| 15:27.02 | Matrix110 | That says that there are different processes |
| 15:27.08 | Matrix110 | not if they run on different machines |
| 15:27.20 | |Pixel| | you may be right, indeed |
| 15:27.21 | Matrix110 | but i seriously doubt 1 machine can handle more than 1 process |
| 15:27.21 | Mikk | I'd ASSUME that they're different machines |
| 15:27.28 | |Pixel| | exactly |
| 15:27.33 | break19 | Mikk: I wouldnt be surprised if they *were* on different boxes.. I know for a fact, that one of my MMO's I play is hosted on a load-balanced network of 15systems.. and that game has only about 60-70 people online at any givin time. |
| 15:28.18 | Matrix110 | other MMORPG used more than 40Servers for 1 Server which had like max 6.000 people playing |
| 15:28.22 | cryogen | it's more than likely some sort of proxy communication, so you talk to a central server which does the business for whichever area it needs to and keeps track of it |
| 15:28.37 | cryogen | so that it doesnt go out of order |
| 15:28.58 | break19 | Matrix110: yea.. the game I'm referring to isnt really ready for primetime yet, lots of bugs and un-implemented stuff still |
| 15:29.21 | Matrix110 | the MMORPG iam talking about is already dieing^^ |
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| 15:37.32 | RoXTeR | hi all |
| 15:40.20 | CIA-22 | 03neolith * r44090 10FuBar_FromAViewToAKillFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_FromAViewToAKillFu.toc readme.txt): |
| 15:40.20 | CIA-22 | FuBar_FromAViewToAKillFu: |
| 15:40.20 | CIA-22 | - fixed misleading labeling of the priority list |
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| 15:41.03 | durcyn | because that's a name that really needs a prefix AND a suffix, meh |
| 15:41.13 | durcyn | FuBar_*Fu means nothing now |
| 15:41.22 | RoXTeR | (sorry for my english) any one know what i need do to link a hyjal items and dont get disconects??XD |
| 15:41.39 | |Pixel| | you can't |
| 15:41.47 | Matrix110 | A guild being able to kill Hyjal Bosses on your Server |
| 15:41.48 | Tornhoof | get to a server where actually someone was in hyjak |
| 15:41.53 | |Pixel| | unless the item has been dropper in your realm by somebody, trying to link it will disconnect you |
| 15:42.04 | |Pixel| | *dropped |
| 15:42.15 | Coruss | lol, go reroll on EU-Magtheridon |
| 15:42.24 | Fisker- | or if it has been linked in a BG :P |
| 15:42.34 | Matrix110 | where it gets really funny is when you link a Hyjal drop on a Server where no one was in Hyjal in IF tradechat and then everybody tries to relink it getting DCed |
| 15:42.36 | |Pixel| | Fisker-: interesting |
| 15:42.40 | durcyn | nah, you just need someone in your battlegroup to link them from the vendor |
| 15:42.42 | Tornhoof | only for your fisker then |
| 15:42.48 | Matrix110 | (you can link em if youve seen em on somebody in a x-BG |
| 15:42.50 | Matrix110 | ) |
| 15:42.51 | Coruss | have any US guilds actually downed BT? |
| 15:42.57 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 15:42.59 | durcyn | Coruss: few dozen |
| 15:43.01 | Fisker- | indeed |Pixel| |
| 15:43.03 | RoXTeR | in my server the best guild kill only magtheridon :S |
| 15:43.04 | Matrix110 | but EU>US :P |
| 15:43.15 | Coruss | Matrix110: /agree |
| 15:43.25 | Coruss | (and I'm in the US lol) |
| 15:43.58 | durcyn | yeah yeah, nihilum poopsocking etc etc, let's move on. |
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| 16:28.40 | NightHawkAtWork | Huh, has really nothing been said here in the past hourish? |
| 16:28.52 | cryogen | 16:43 < durcyn> yeah yeah, nihilum poopsocking etc etc, let's move on. |
| 16:28.59 | cryogen | kinda killed the conversation i guess |
| 16:29.09 | NightHawkAtWork | apparently so. |
| 16:29.24 | Mudkips | NightHawkAtWork, ! |
| 16:29.55 | NightHawkAtWork | yes? |
| 16:30.03 | Antiarc|Work | I don't get what the sudden upsurge in nihilum hate is about. |
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| 16:30.05 | Athou_ | if I want to remove my vampiric touch mana regen spam do I have to match the combatlog sentence or the parrot message in the suppressions ? |
| 16:30.09 | Punkie` | sexytime!!! |
| 16:30.17 | Mudkips | You said you had pidgin at work? |
| 16:30.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Mudkips: yes |
| 16:30.25 | Ordog | uhm can some native english speaking human please help me understand the google maps api tos ? |
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| 16:30.36 | Mudkips | Do you understand what I mean now? |
| 16:30.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: me either, but I never understood what the nihilium love was about either. :P |
| 16:30.57 | Antiarc|Work | Oooh, new KTM release. |
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| 16:31.07 | Punkie` | i fapped |
| 16:31.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Mudkips: kind of, but not really? If you right-click the status tray icon thing, and go to change status->saved, can you delete the ones you want to remove from there? |
| 16:31.44 | Mudkips | Can you do me a favor? |
| 16:31.54 | NightHawkAtWork | I can try |
| 16:32.00 | Mudkips | set it on away and type something in the chatbox as soon as you set it |
| 16:32.14 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work new feature of KTM ( block Omen sync ) |
| 16:32.15 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 16:32.15 | Mudkips | it should appear under the button |
| 16:32.28 | Silviu- | i think :) |
| 16:32.32 | Athou_ | ckknight: ping ? |
| 16:33.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Mudkips: hmm, I see what you mean now. |
| 16:33.15 | Mudkips | yup |
| 16:33.27 | NightHawkAtWork | I usually only change status via the status tray icon, so I don't get that |
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| 16:33.39 | Mudkips | oh |
| 16:34.23 | Antiarc|Work | Oy. He added revision/version queries...but still no user agent. |
| 16:36.02 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe, xkcd is awesome |
| 16:37.23 | sb | mh xkcd? |
| 16:37.24 | Antiarc|Work | Oh HELL no. |
| 16:37.47 | Antiarc|Work | He's running an O(n^2) debuff scanning function onupdate. |
| 16:37.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:38.39 | Undine | ooh |
| 16:38.46 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: er, wha? how? WHY?! |
| 16:38.58 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Hell if I know. But he is. |
| 16:39.02 | nevcairiel | whats n related to? number of buffs? |
| 16:39.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: and by onupdate, you mean every. damn.frame? |
| 16:39.17 | Antiarc|Work | Debuffs by debuffs tracked. |
| 16:39.42 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Probably has a timer short circuit, but yes, it's running onupdate. |
| 16:39.55 | winkiller | xkcd rocks |
| 16:40.14 | NightHawkAtWork | sb: you don't know xkcd? http://xkcd.com read, learn, love. :) |
| 16:40.30 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: thats hot, can we see something similarly awesome in threat-1.0? |
| 16:40.44 | Antiarc|Work | ;_; |
| 16:40.52 | Punkie` | >:D |
| 16:41.15 | Punkie` | didnt he say that omen data poisoned his addon? ;D |
| 16:41.31 | Antiarc|Work | yeah |
| 16:41.34 | Antiarc|Work | basically |
| 16:41.44 | Punkie` | pretty shit tbh |
| 16:42.19 | Fisker- | OH NO |
| 16:42.53 | Punkie` | DO U Fisker-? |
| 16:43.22 | Fisker- | i Fisker- |
| 16:43.39 | Fisker- | atleast you can downrate authors on new curse |
| 16:44.04 | Punkie` | lol |
| 16:44.10 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44091 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Add latency consideration to periodic transaction commits |
| 16:44.35 | Punkie` | Fisker-: you should send the army |
| 16:44.46 | aen` | anyone from miami? |
| 16:44.55 | Fisker- | i'm not your personal army |
| 16:45.42 | NightHawkAtWork | Fisker-: but you are his personal prostitute. |
| 16:45.50 | Fisker- | DENTAL PLAN |
| 16:45.58 | aen` | TAR TAR SAUCE |
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| 16:47.43 | aen` | fuck yes |
| 16:47.50 | aen` | i got a window seat only 1 seat to the row too |
| 16:47.56 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44092 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Hows about we treat milliseconds as milliseconds rather than seconds. |
| 16:48.03 | aen` | 122$ pittsburgh > miami, nonstop |
| 16:48.16 | Punkie` | amazing, tell us more |
| 16:48.39 | Fisker- | madness? |
| 16:48.48 | aen` | thats pretty cheap |
| 16:48.51 | Killmore7 | Antiarc: Omen is not yet on curse, why ? :( |
| 16:48.56 | Fisker- | omg Antiarc you are a n00b etc. |
| 16:48.57 | Punkie` | its not finished |
| 16:48.58 | ashai|hc | THIS IS SPARRRTTTAAAAAA |
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| 16:49.20 | ashai|hc | which apparently is in scotland with that accent :P |
| 16:49.29 | aen` | lolol |
| 16:50.03 | Killmore7 | Punkie`: an addon is never finish, this is not a good reason :P |
| 16:50.21 | Punkie` | i meant as in, its not finished beta |
| 16:50.50 | ashai|hc | its progressed loads :D |
| 16:50.53 | Killmore7 | Punkie`: in the .toc of omen it says 1.0b :| |
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| 16:54.37 | cncfanatics | I'm having issues |
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| 16:55.15 | CIA-22 | 03gendi * r44093 10VodkaKickers/ (30 files in 10 dirs): |
| 16:55.15 | CIA-22 | VodkaKickers |
| 16:55.15 | CIA-22 | Addon to assist boss spell interrupt rotation |
| 16:55.40 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore7: Because it stilll has showstopper bugs. |
| 16:55.49 | Antiarc|Work | I'll be posting it to Curse once they're gone. |
| 16:56.19 | kergoth | VodkaKickers eh, cute |
| 16:56.22 | jme | heh |
| 16:56.32 | jme | wonder if that works for the netherspite beams ;) |
| 16:56.56 | jme | last night someone was making undead toons named after all the kara bosses |
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| 16:57.10 | jme | i saw Moroes and Netherspite walking around trisfal :o |
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| 16:58.36 | Nyri | suggestion to wau: add a parameter which updates all addons an quit and then start wow.exe :) |
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| 17:00.05 | LLoydBates | Antiarc|Work: Great work on Threat-1.0! My Guild switched to it (for tests) but some are having - what they call - lags when fighting with many mobs. Setting TPS higher (default was 0.25 for me) mostly fixed these. Could there be problems? Is TPS calculation not resourcefriendly in its nature? :\ |
| 17:00.34 | LLoydBates | Or are we just a bunch of idiots not knowing what to do ;P |
| 17:00.46 | nevcairiel | a mage in my guild claimed that omen was pushing him down too |
| 17:00.53 | Antiarc|Work | LLoydBates: A faster update schedule will consume more CPU, yes (which is the reason that it's configurable) |
| 17:01.03 | Killmore7 | Omen is mandatory in my guild since 3 weeks now |
| 17:01.16 | Antiarc|Work | LLoydBates: Do you have any profiling numbers or anything I could look at? I'd like to find a friendly default :) |
| 17:01.21 | Antiarc|Work | Definitely don't want Omen to bog people down out of the box. |
| 17:01.26 | LLoydBates | no sorry, never enabled profiling |
| 17:01.36 | nevcairiel | TPS isnt really necessary to be up2date all the time right? the actual threat value will update anyway? |
| 17:02.06 | LLoydBates | As far as i remember TPS calc was moved to Threat-1.0. How can one change the tps update value with no gui present? are there commandline switches? |
| 17:02.40 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work i have tps set at 0.50 |
| 17:02.49 | Silviu- | And it`s ok |
| 17:02.53 | nevcairiel | i have 0.05 |
| 17:02.56 | nevcairiel | and i notice shit |
| 17:02.58 | Silviu- | Lower ... u can`t even read the numbers right |
| 17:03.04 | LLoydBates | i have it set to 2.0 |
| 17:03.19 | LLoydBates | and disabled "Show TPS" in omen |
| 17:03.20 | Antiarc|Work | LLoydBates: I changed it so that it doesn't update on a schedule; the Omen setting just changes the speed at which the display is updated. |
| 17:03.55 | LLoydBates | hm, i see (actualy i don't have a clue what you are meaning with "not update on a schedule") |
| 17:04.00 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r44094 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: You can now, with the usage of dark and mysterious magic actualy get a button on the screen ! but it does nothing yet ... |
| 17:04.34 | LLoydBates | well, you are at work. don't want to bother you. |
| 17:04.40 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, it's no problem |
| 17:05.02 | Antiarc|Work | Before, TPS updated on a set schedule. Now, it updates when a new data point is added, but the display code is handled separately. |
| 17:05.35 | LLoydBates | when a new data point is added, does that mean every time a threat value changes? |
| 17:05.52 | Antiarc|Work | Right |
| 17:06.22 | LLoydBates | with 25 ppl .. can't that get out of hand? |
| 17:06.34 | LLoydBates | should be more than once a second that way |
| 17:07.01 | Antiarc|Work | It shouldn't, no. Threat scales back its reporting schedule as you add more people, so that it doesn't get too bogged down in a raid. |
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| 17:07.38 | Benumbed | Faerie Fire (Feral), Mangle (Cat), Mangle (Bear) wont auto cast max rank? |
| 17:07.47 | Antiarc|Work | Though, I just thought of a faster way to calculate TPS, I think. |
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| 17:08.04 | jme | ~cookie Antiarc|Work |
| 17:08.14 | Thrae | Benumbed: If you're using some of the slash commands, you need to use Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Mangle (Cat)(), etc. |
| 17:08.25 | Fisker- | it wasn't sparta enough :( |
| 17:08.30 | Fisker- | btw Punkie` |
| 17:08.32 | Fisker- | where do you live? |
| 17:09.11 | Benumbed | Trae: yeah mod i am making just uses macro style casts, was wondering why it didnt work on those spells |
| 17:09.16 | CIA-22 | 03gendi * r44095 10/tags/VodkaKickers/: |
| 17:09.16 | CIA-22 | VodkaKickers |
| 17:09.17 | CIA-22 | v0.1 |
| 17:09.27 | Benumbed | Thrae, even =x |
| 17:09.27 | LLoydBates | Antiarc|Work: is there any drawback if tps would not be calculated at all? like having a switch disabling it at lib level? |
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| 17:09.36 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r44096 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: fix a potential bug. |
| 17:10.10 | CIA-22 | 03gendi 07v0.1 * r44097 10VodkaKickers/: |
| 17:10.10 | CIA-22 | VodkaKickers |
| 17:10.10 | CIA-22 | v0.1 |
| 17:10.10 | Antiarc|Work | LLoydBates: Well, if you have multiple addons using Threat as a backend, you don't want someone using Omen to be able to switch it off for all other addons. |
| 17:10.25 | Fisker- | PUNKIE |
| 17:10.30 | Punkie` | hey |
| 17:10.31 | Punkie` | england |
| 17:10.38 | LLoydBates | point taken |
| 17:10.41 | Fisker- | ok |
| 17:10.45 | Fisker- | then i can kill you Punkie` |
| 17:10.46 | Punkie` | cool eh |
| 17:10.50 | Punkie` | nah |
| 17:10.52 | Punkie` | we have the sas |
| 17:10.58 | Xuerian | 'morning. |
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| 17:11.18 | Fisker- | doesn't matter Punkie` |
| 17:11.26 | CIA-22 | 03gendi 07Libs * r44098 10VodkaKickers/: missed tag name : Removed file/folder |
| 17:11.29 | Fisker- | Cause if you sign a paper saying i can kill you then i just can |
| 17:11.34 | Fisker- | with no legal ramifications whatsoever |
| 17:11.40 | CIA-22 | 03gendi * r44099 10/tags/VodkaKickers/ (Locale-enUS.lua VodkaKickers.toc VodkaKickers.xml core.lua): missed tag name : Removed file/folder |
| 17:11.42 | Fisker- | l2law n00b |
| 17:11.45 | Benumbed | so can i use SpellName() on all spells in that case? |
| 17:12.05 | Punkie` | probably |
| 17:12.07 | Punkie` | on like |
| 17:12.21 | Punkie` | a wednesday as the crow flies north from a window with a bow and arrow |
| 17:16.09 | Pkekyo | anyone know how long 'till next arena season starts? |
| 17:17.11 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, 4 months or 3 months I supose |
| 17:17.31 | Pkekyo | soeh...no use in waiting for the arena2 to be priced down..? :> |
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| 17:19.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Didn't arena2 start like a couple weeks ago? |
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| 17:21.15 | Kaydeethree | with 2.1.2 |
| 17:21.23 | deltron | yap |
| 17:21.57 | Codayus | Besides, even when it is, there'll be season 3 gear out, so...you might as well buy season 1 gear now as wait, no? |
| 17:22.42 | Codayus | (...I think that makes sense. It made sense in my head. Could just be sleep deprivation talking though.) |
| 17:22.50 | Pkekyo | yup, that was what I was thinking as well... |
| 17:23.34 | Pkekyo | ffs, I've gotta learn not to fucking die in mid-air >.< |
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| 17:24.00 | CIA-22 | 03gendi * r44100 10VodkaKickers/Libs/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 17:24.00 | CIA-22 | VodkaKickers |
| 17:24.00 | CIA-22 | Removing uploaded libs.. oops |
| 17:24.01 | kebinusan | Warlock Arena Controller - http://i15.tinypic.com/4or67w6.jpg |
| 17:24.05 | jme | Pkekyo: i was hovering over a raid on kazzak and i got killed by crossfire in midair :X |
| 17:24.46 | Pkekyo | been there, done that |
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| 17:29.00 | Coruss | did the page with addon ideas ever get requested? |
| 17:29.02 | Fisker- | So long dental plan |
| 17:29.08 | Coruss | *requested=recovered |
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| 17:31.44 | vithos | Antiarc: here? |
| 17:32.15 | Xuerian | kebinusan: XD |
| 17:33.35 | jme | uh |
| 17:33.43 | jme | this hunter specced 57 in MM and didn't even get silencing shot |
| 17:34.03 | jme | and instead maxed out imp CS, imp HM, and imp AS |
| 17:34.11 | jme | oh, and imp stings |
| 17:34.22 | Taly | uhh |
| 17:34.25 | Taly | imp stings is a pvp talent |
| 17:34.32 | Taly | and so is silencing shot |
| 17:34.33 | jme | obviously |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-22 | 03gendi * r44101 10VodkaKickers/: |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-22 | VodkaKickers |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-22 | Externals should be sorted now... |
| 17:34.57 | jme | i'm just saying, i don't see why he put points in imp stings without getting silencing shot |
| 17:35.13 | Taly | is this on the forums? |
| 17:35.21 | jme | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0400000000000000000005555241255313253100000000000000000000000000 |
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| 17:35.42 | Benumbed | how would you strip out () |
| 17:35.53 | Taly | I think someone just clicked random stuff |
| 17:35.55 | Benumbed | its always at the end, if that helps =x |
| 17:35.57 | Taly | or not random |
| 17:36.04 | Thrae | !t http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0400000000000000000005555241255313253100000000000000000000000000 |
| 17:36.05 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/25ww9a |
| 17:36.16 | jme | Thrae: thanks, sorry about that |
| 17:37.08 | Coruss | that's a hunter who doesn't min/max |
| 17:37.24 | Coruss | or a very silly pvp hunter |
| 17:38.07 | Thrae | jme: !c <eu/us> <server> <character> will give you a list of stats and links to the character sheet page and talents. |
| 17:39.03 | jme | my build: http://tinyurl.com/245qba |
| 17:40.00 | pakoz | !c us eredar zephia |
| 17:40.03 | ThraeBot | pakoz: Zephia, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/45/16). 8119 HP; 6434 Mana; 125 mana regen; 26 mp5; 4423 Armour; 1344 AP; 193.7 Melee DPS; 23% melee crit; 7.23% +melee hit; 12.11% dodge; 5% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/32tzlh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/ytwnv6 ]] |
| 17:40.04 | jme | i should've put those 2 from go for the throat into catlike reflexes |
| 17:40.10 | pakoz | wow |
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| 17:40.13 | pakoz | that is fuggin hot |
| 17:40.26 | jme | no wait... the two from spirit bond into catlike reflexes |
| 17:40.28 | pakoz | the tinyurl really tops it off too |
| 17:40.40 | Taly | !c us mannoroth Talyx |
| 17:40.42 | ThraeBot | Taly: Talyx, Level 70 Tauren Hunter (41/20/0). 8898 HP; 6778 Mana; 89 mana regen; 6 mp5; 5562 Armour; 1761 AP; 230 Melee DPS; 15.76% melee crit; 8.69% +melee hit; 1877 RAP; 372 Ranged DPS; 20.76% ranged crit; 8.69% +ranged hit; 14.31% dodge; 31 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nvlpk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/22oclt ]] |
| 17:40.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Do it in a damn message, not in the channel. |
| 17:41.15 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.47 | Taly | but my epeen |
| 17:42.02 | pakoz | hmm |
| 17:42.04 | NightHawkAtWork | no one cares. :P |
| 17:42.07 | pakoz | the tiny url links dont seem to work |
| 17:42.09 | pakoz | until you refresh |
| 17:42.11 | pakoz | in IE7 |
| 17:42.21 | NightHawkAtWork | get a less shitty browser? :P |
| 17:42.37 | Coruss | firefox? opera? safari? |
| 17:42.41 | pakoz | ie7 very rarely fails me ;p |
| 17:42.47 | Coruss | there's alot that are better than IE |
| 17:43.11 | Thrae | pakoz: That's a problem w/ either TinyUrl or the Armory w/ IE7, but IE7 sucks so they probably don't care adhering to its weird-ass rules |
| 17:43.12 | pakoz | i need reliable, and more often than not i have to switch to ie to load x website |
| 17:43.32 | Thrae | WTF websites are you going to, I never have to do that with Firefox |
| 17:43.43 | NightHawkAtWork | I havn't seen any IE-only websitse in several years. |
| 17:43.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Firefox/Safari have always served me wonderfully. |
| 17:43.54 | pakoz | heh |
| 17:44.05 | Coruss | Firefox on PC ftw, Safari for mac |
| 17:44.12 | pakoz | too many times has firefox has earned me money |
| 17:44.18 | jme | Coruss: same here |
| 17:44.20 | Thrae | Opera is supposedly more reliable then Firefox for handling pages designed for IE |
| 17:44.27 | pakoz | because a real-estate agent cant open a browser application |
| 17:44.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah. THough I use firefox on the mac sometimes, because the version of webkit in the release version of safari has a couple bugs that cause safari to hang on one website i frequent |
| 17:45.07 | Coruss | NightHawkAtWork: if you're not doing anything security dependant, safari 3.0 beta? |
| 17:45.13 | pakoz | i've come across around 6-7 websites that cause firefox to go to 100% cpu usage |
| 17:45.17 | NightHawkAtWork | Coruss: Been too lazy to install it. :P |
| 17:45.20 | pakoz | and had other people confirm it, so it wasnt my machine |
| 17:45.28 | pakoz | bank sites |
| 17:45.34 | pakoz | some bank sites* |
| 17:45.36 | NightHawkAtWork | shitty banks, then |
| 17:45.40 | pakoz | lol |
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| 17:45.44 | jme | jsp? |
| 17:45.45 | Coruss | NightHawkAtWork: heh, ya I have safari 3 on my PC for testing, but I won't put it on my mac b/c I do banking etc |
| 17:46.03 | Thrae | pakoz: Your 6-7 websites code fail -- Firefox adheres to the standards set by the WC3. Did you call up your bank and report the bug, or at least email webmaster@yourbank.com? |
| 17:46.16 | pakoz | the bank sites dont cause the 100% |
| 17:46.20 | pakoz | its just random websites |
| 17:46.28 | pakoz | the bank sites just wont lecha log in |
| 17:46.46 | NightHawkAtWork | Like I said, shitty banks. |
| 17:46.53 | pakoz | lolol |
| 17:46.54 | Coruss | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.04 | pakoz | for casual internet surfing im sure firefox is fine |
| 17:47.04 | Thrae | pakoz: All the banking / credit card sites let me login fine. Even State Farm, and their code sucks horribly. Report the bugs to webmaster@thesite.com |
| 17:47.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, every bank I'e delt with has handled any browser I've used. |
| 17:47.18 | Benumbed | if value is Faerie Fire (Feral)(), whats correct strip syntax to just remove () and leave (Feral) alone |
| 17:47.19 | Thrae | pakoz: Not A Bug w/ Firefox |
| 17:47.25 | pakoz | i didnt say it was |
| 17:48.14 | pakoz | but using ie makes it so i dont have to deal with those problems odd quirks |
| 17:48.41 | Thrae | Benumbed: text = string.match(text, "(%w+%(Feral%))%(%)") |
| 17:48.42 | NightHawkAtWork | And instead open yourself up to a whole host of other problems and odd quirks? |
| 17:49.57 | pakoz | people sure do get livid when you dont choose their browser =/ |
| 17:50.03 | Thrae | Benumbed: If you have multiple cases within the same string, use string.gsub. Otherwise string.match has easier syntax and does the same thing in this case. |
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| 17:50.36 | V^ | (DEBUG) Skinner:[18.49:53.851] GameTooltip_OnShow:[GameTooltip] |
| 17:50.42 | V^ | OH MY GOD WHAT DOES THIS MEAN |
| 17:50.45 | Thrae | Benumbed: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 17:50.49 | Benumbed | Thrae, yeah its not always gonna have (Feral) |
| 17:51.06 | NightHawkAtWork | pakoz: nah, this isn't livid. It's just a statement of fact. ie is pretty terrible. smart money says use it as little humanly possible. |
| 17:51.18 | deltron | I think I just found one of the best linux apps ever :D |
| 17:51.30 | deltron | yay for ntlmaps |
| 17:51.45 | pakoz | hehe, to end the pointless arguement, i'll stop trying to defend it ;p |
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| 17:53.09 | Fin | Thrae: this is why I made luai - so you can just read http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/5.4.1+Patterns instead (or http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/patterns or http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/5.4.1, etc :) |
| 17:53.14 | Thrae | Benumbed: Then text = string.gsub(text, "(%w+%(Feral%))%(%)", "%1") |
| 17:53.18 | sb | mh |
| 17:53.26 | sb | SmartRes-3.0\SmartRes.lua:509: attempt to call method 'UnHook' (a ni |
| 17:53.27 | sb | : SmartRes-3.0\SmartRes.lua:486: AceHook-2.1: "OnMouseDown" already has an active hook from this source. |
| 17:53.29 | sb | broken!? :p |
| 17:53.50 | Thrae | Benumbed: That will only substitute if the pattern exists. Otherwise it'll do nothing to text. |
| 17:54.34 | Thrae | Fin: ? Looks like you just copy&pasted the Lua manual |
| 17:54.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44102 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Optimization to UpdateTPS - no more iteration needed! |
| 17:54.48 | Fin | Thrae: I imported the lua manual |
| 17:55.03 | Benumbed | yeah didnt seem to work hmm, lemme rephrase |
| 17:55.14 | Fin | Thrae: it's so you can read bits of the manual and search for specific parts without having to load the whole manual every time in one big page |
| 17:55.23 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r44103 10WeaponRebuff/ (4 files): |
| 17:55.23 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 17:55.23 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.50 | Benumbed | i do setattribute to assign the spell which worked fine, then update reagents with G:SetSpell |
| 17:56.11 | Benumbed | so every spell has (), but before I SetSpell, i need to strip it out for the setspell |
| 17:56.26 | Fin | Thrae: I kept wanting to lookup the syntax for particular functions, and had to load the whole page, now I can just go to http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/table.insert |
| 17:56.32 | Thrae | Benumbed: If it's for both Faerie Fire and Mangle, then text = string.gsub(text, "(%w+%(w+%))%(%)", "%1") will work for both |
| 17:56.55 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44104 10AuldLangSyne/ (12 files in 5 dirs): AuldLangSyne: At least in theory, allow modules to be run without the core. (Drycode ftw!) |
| 17:57.32 | Thrae | Fin: My Firefox pretty much has the page cache'd 100% of the time, and you can always download it ^^; It has an index too. |
| 17:57.39 | Kemayo | Huh, that's interesting. Commit failed *after* CIA printed its message. |
| 17:57.52 | Fin | Thrae: http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/_ |
| 17:58.08 | Mikk | err that's like impossible |
| 17:58.17 | Mikk | CIA is run after the commit |
| 17:58.22 | Fin | Kemayo: that happened to me also |
| 17:58.29 | Fin | Kemayo: I think if you look, the files will have been updated |
| 17:58.42 | Kemayo | Ah, okay. It looks like what happened is that the post-commit update connection failed. |
| 17:58.45 | Fin | Kemayo: the error message is just about a temp file not being removed |
| 17:58.52 | Fin | or that :) |
| 17:58.56 | Kemayo | Which tortoisesvn helpfully reported as "commit failed!" |
| 17:59.32 | Fin | technically that is a failure, if you consider a commit the whole process, including the update after :) |
| 18:00.05 | Thrae | Kemayo: TortoiseSVN's error messages suck. I remember when my OS was, for some bizarre design reason, trying to cache all the files in my server's home directory, which was bigger then the size of my entire HDD. So my HDD was at 0 space left, to which TortoiseSVN just gave the error message "No Error" when trying to write. |
| 18:00.36 | Fin | Thrae: also I wished there were more links between sections and stuff in the manual |
| 18:00.54 | Fin | Thrae: ! |
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| 18:01.28 | Fin | Thrae: do you use Google SVN? was it trying to mirror the whole of Google Code? :) |
| 18:02.10 | Coruss | >< that's enough alizee for one day |
| 18:02.43 | Thrae | Fin: I'm talking about my home server, which runs a RAID1 w/ daily incremental backups. My HDD is a 32GB WD Raptor in my gaming comp. The OS was XP, of course. As for Google SVN...yeah I do use that, but that wasn't the issue ;) |
| 18:03.15 | Fin | Thrae: ah, OK :) shame, I was kind of curious how far it got before running out of space :) |
| 18:03.42 | Thrae | heh...well the cache'r ("Offline Files") got my HDD down to 0 free space |
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| 18:04.13 | Fin | "No Error", tch :) |
| 18:04.51 | Fin | right, think I'm goin to play me some WoW |
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| 18:06.18 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=v3pvn2oprp3zs&ab=126 <-- finally broke 10k on a shadow bolt on a normal boss (hydross) |
| 18:06.45 | Thrae | NeoTron: Lady Vash isn't a normal boss? They were getting 10k on her all the time |
| 18:07.28 | NeoTron | Thrae: "they"? This is on Hydross. I never had >10k before.. and I somehow doubt people get over 10k "all the time" |
| 18:07.40 | NeoTron | unless they have a lot better gear than I, which is of course possible |
| 18:07.48 | Thrae | NeoTron: It's been known to happen a lot on Lady Vash from reports |
| 18:07.55 | durcyn | 0/21/40? |
| 18:08.10 | NeoTron | durcyn: yep |
| 18:08.27 | durcyn | cheater |
| 18:08.45 | Thrae | NeoTron: !c <us/eu> <server> <char> |
| 18:09.21 | NeoTron | !c us kilrogg aminai |
| 18:09.29 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Aminai, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 10897 HP; 9728 Mana; 149 mana regen; 210 spell crit rating; 13.63% +spell hit; 924 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (978); 215 shadow dmg (1139); 5.32% dodge; 13 resilience; +33 all resists; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eouyj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36gtme ]] |
| 18:10.07 | NeoTron | buffed I'm >1300 dmg |
| 18:10.37 | NeoTron | shaman, at least one equipment dmg proc, trinket, PI, SB crit debuff |
| 18:11.31 | art3mis | http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/hahaitsbo/misc/crazybunnies.gif |
| 18:11.46 | NeoTron | also on hydross, heroism + PI + trinket + procs can be a bad thing |
| 18:11.57 | NeoTron | especially when you don't realize you have them all |
| 18:12.30 | art3mis | i wish i could crit better than 4k |
| 18:13.04 | art3mis | my highest sw:death/mb combo was 3625/3742 |
| 18:13.16 | art3mis | in gruuls onthe guards |
| 18:13.18 | art3mis | with CoS |
| 18:13.37 | art3mis | cos/misery/weaving |
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| 18:16.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Oh man.. this is amusing, "Steeple Hill, the Christian fiction imprint of romance publisher Harlequin, will churn out 128 titles this year while hewing to strict standards followed by many Christian book publishers: No swearing (not even "gosh" and "darn"), no dancing or drinking by Christian characters, no gambling, no mention of intimate body parts. And forget sex scenes, even if the characters are married to each |
| 18:18.02 | Kemayo | Pure intellectual romance, huh? |
| 18:18.32 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: your thraebot wont let me send a tinyurl to this channel :P |
| 18:18.46 | Tornhoof | no talking either kemayo, they're married after all |
| 18:18.46 | harldephin | bah |
| 18:18.52 | harldephin | that disgusts me |
| 18:21.13 | NightHawkAtWork | !t http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/17/AR2007071702182_2.html |
| 18:21.14 | ThraeBot | NightHawkAtWork: http://tinyurl.com/2h3dnx |
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| 18:21.26 | NightHawkAtWork | That's the url to the story, if you care to read the whole thing :P |
| 18:21.36 | Pucmel | keylogger |
| 18:22.05 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: Yeah, I broke it and I'm still trying to figure out how |
| 18:22.05 | harldephin | Pucmel: ? |
| 18:22.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: psh, you suck! :) |
| 18:25.12 | harldephin | !c eu perenolde cano |
| 18:25.16 | ThraeBot | harldephin: Cano, Level 61 Dwarf Hunter (13/36/3). 3657 HP; 3316 Mana; 101 mana regen; 9 mp5; 731 AP; 110.3 Melee DPS; 6.28% melee crit; 734 RAP; 127 Ranged DPS; 12.6% ranged crit; 6.87% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23hfwl ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vr64k ]] |
| 18:25.42 | harldephin | hm. cool. |
| 18:28.45 | LLoydBates | does this work using whisper? (/msg) |
| 18:28.45 | cryogen | can i set up a multiple rules for grid, ie if missing buff A AND missing buff B, show up? |
| 18:30.20 | jme | LLoydBates: yes |
| 18:30.42 | LLoydBates | cool |
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| 18:33.38 | harldephin | why are blizzard's internet pages so slow? |
| 18:34.10 | [dRaCo] | 'cos they can. |
| 18:34.17 | harldephin | oh. |
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| 18:35.52 | jme | because they're 99.999% graphics and flash |
| 18:37.39 | trh | *and* they use java |
| 18:38.27 | Mellow_ | java is not the reason to be slo |
| 18:38.27 | Mellow_ | w |
| 18:38.52 | trh | no, but the usual java coder doesn't care too much about performance |
| 18:39.10 | Mellow_ | true, but this doesnt affect to all java programs |
| 18:39.30 | trh | but to 99% :P |
| 18:39.56 | Mellow_ | yes, but you know, the language can be good, even the programers are horrible lazy |
| 18:39.58 | trh | and object generation is terribly slow in java :) |
| 18:40.15 | harldephin | indeed. |
| 18:40.15 | trh | compared to c++ =) |
| 18:40.30 | Mellow_ | well every language has some problem ^^ |
| 18:40.59 | trh | tbh, from all languages i tried, i liked c# the most :) |
| 18:41.19 | kaiden | blizzards websites are slow simply due to the massive amount of traffic they get i imagine, www.worldofwarcraft.co.kr has more flash and larger images on it and it loads faster than www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 18:41.38 | Antiarc|Work | Blizzard's website is slow because it does an assload of requests per page. |
| 18:42.11 | Kody- | and there are a bunch of websites hitting it for these armory rankings and stuff :P |
| 18:42.17 | Codayus | And some REALLY REALLY ugly xml transforms and stuff. |
| 18:42.27 | trh | Antiarc|Work: what are you trying to say? a) they can't afford faster servers or b) it's coded very performance hungry? |
| 18:42.28 | Mellow_ | most of times the servers arent slow, what i dont like, when i open a browser and type the url(armory), my browser is at 99% cpu usage |
| 18:42.35 | Codayus | The actual website tends to respond blazingly fast. |
| 18:42.39 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
| 18:42.45 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 101 mana regen; 91.6 Melee DPS; 14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; +15 all resists (+10 nature); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
| 18:42.54 | Thrae | Armory clogging fun! |
| 18:42.57 | Antiarc|Work | trh: They use way too many files, so your browser has to do a ton of individual requests, which means lots and lots of connection overhead. |
| 18:43.07 | Antiarc|Work | For example: Loading the WoW homepage is 215 HTTP requests. |
| 18:43.11 | Antiarc|Work | Two hundred and fifteen. |
| 18:43.18 | Antiarc|Work | That's 215 separate HTTP transactions. |
| 18:43.19 | Kody- | ;o |
| 18:43.19 | jme | ache tee tee pee |
| 18:43.24 | trh | Antiarc|Work: nope, it's not |
| 18:43.28 | Trancer | no it's not |
| 18:43.32 | Trancer | it reuses the connections |
| 18:43.39 | trh | Antiarc|Work: every modern browser supports pipelining |
| 18:43.46 | [dRaCo] | at least if it's http2 |
| 18:43.49 | Antiarc|Work | trh: But not necessarily turned on ;) |
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| 18:43.54 | CIA-22 | Taggle: |
| 18:43.54 | CIA-22 | - now filtering emotes too (sneaky spammers) |
| 18:44.02 | trh | Antiarc: they open like 20 connectioon and put 10-15 requests in every connection |
| 18:44.09 | Antiarc|Work | Which is still a ton. |
| 18:44.20 | Trancer | trh: stock firefox opens 2 |
| 18:44.28 | Antiarc|Work | They could collapse the dozens of GIF files into a single GIF and use CSS to display the relevant portions of them, which would significantly increase performance. |
| 18:44.31 | trh | Trancer: it's configurable :) |
| 18:44.41 | Trancer | trh: forunately :) |
| 18:44.48 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 18:45.08 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: yes, screen readers would like that :p |
| 18:45.10 | Codayus | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t14035-how_get_xml_php_armory/ |
| 18:45.13 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: has to be accessible and so on |
| 18:45.22 | Codayus | Some interesting info about grabbing armory data. |
| 18:45.34 | Antiarc|Work | Trancer: Screen readers don't care about that, really. You would keep the alt info the same on the tags. |
| 18:45.49 | Antiarc|Work | It'd look the same to the screen reader, done properly. |
| 18:46.18 | Trancer | messy though |
| 18:46.25 | buu | Hahahah php. |
| 18:46.27 | trh | i really do wonder if there are any BLIND people actually playing wow |
| 18:46.30 | Trancer | tomcat + light or alike will be fine serving those truckload of files |
| 18:46.39 | Trancer | buu: yes, because PHP is a bad alternative for webdev. right? |
| 18:46.58 | AnduinLothar | does Baggins show $ yet? |
| 18:47.04 | Antiarc|Work | Trancer: The issue tends to be that loading 200 900-byte files is a lot slower than loading a single 175k image |
| 18:47.06 | buu | Trancer: PHP is *awesome* |
| 18:47.10 | buu | If you're 14.. |
| 18:47.20 | Trancer | buu: I bet all the developers at Yahoo! are 14 y/o ;-) |
| 18:47.26 | buu | It would explain a lot. |
| 18:47.28 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: I know |
| 18:47.28 | trh | buu: it's usually the coder, but php encourage bad programming :P |
| 18:47.42 | buu | trh: Well, PHP is a poorly designed language, but obviously it's possible to overcome it. |
| 18:47.44 | Antiarc|Work | PHP lets you shotgun your leg off really easily. |
| 18:47.46 | buu | I'm just not sure I see the point. |
| 18:47.49 | Antiarc|Work | But I still love it. |
| 18:48.04 | trh | php is nice for quick'n'dirty coding :) |
| 18:48.07 | buu | "but when you are trying to get it with a PHP script you will have it rendered to HTML which you would have to rip apart again with "preg_replace" and stuff. |
| 18:48.15 | buu | That sort of explains why I hate PHP the most. |
| 18:49.09 | Codayus | The problem with PHP is that it's not really good for rapid prototyping, nor yet for large applications. I'm not really sure *what* is has going for it really. |
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| 18:49.15 | CIA-22 | PallyPower: |
| 18:49.15 | CIA-22 | - add zhTW |
| 18:49.21 | buu | Codayus: It's a decent templating language =] |
| 18:49.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Codayus: relative simplicty |
| 18:49.39 | buu | *deceptive* simplicity. |
| 18:49.44 | Codayus | NightHawkAtWork: Heh, relative to what? |
| 18:49.55 | [dRaCo] | php is easy to learn, quite mighty and if used right, not to hard to maintain |
| 18:50.05 | NightHawkAtWork | buu: only deceptive if you don't know what you're doing. |
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| 18:50.08 | trh | anyone tried ruby on rails/ruby for web development? |
| 18:50.10 | Codayus | [dRaCo]: I was with ya' right up until point 3. |
| 18:50.13 | Codayus | trh: Yep |
| 18:50.17 | AnduinLothar | i liek using php for abstracting page sections without using frames |
| 18:50.19 | trh | Codayus: how is it? |
| 18:50.22 | [dRaCo] | ... too hard. |
| 18:50.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Codayus: relative to pretty much any large-scale web application environment, really? |
| 18:51.02 | Codayus | NightHawkAtWork: Disagree. :-) |
| 18:51.17 | [dRaCo] | Codayus: why's that? I found my php stuff to read- and understable even after years |
| 18:51.44 | [dRaCo] | understandable |
| 18:51.49 | NightHawkAtWork | *shrug* for small projects, I'd prefer php to building massive back end services that go largely unneeded. :P |
| 18:51.51 | [dRaCo] | totally cant type today. |
| 18:51.52 | Codayus | trh: Kinda cool. Ruby is a fun language. The framework is...well, pretty much what you'd hope. The templating is solid. |
| 18:51.54 | Antiarc|Work | It's very easy to write unmaintainable PHP code |
| 18:52.02 | Trancer | Codayus: how the heck can it be hard to maintain? it's not hard to maintain if you have any clue about writing maintainable code |
| 18:52.06 | jme | anyone know how much honor you can make on average on a non bg weekend night? |
| 18:52.07 | [dRaCo] | agreed, antiarc |
| 18:52.10 | jme | like per hour |
| 18:52.14 | trh | Codayus: sounds like i should learn it sometime :) |
| 18:52.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: indeed, but if you're doing that, any code you write is going to be pretty unmaintanable. Stuff like that transfers across languages :P |
| 18:52.26 | Antiarc|Work | trh: I'm actually a professional rails developer :) |
| 18:52.34 | jme | assuming you'll lose some, and aren't camping AV ;) |
| 18:52.34 | trh | Antiarc: oh =) |
| 18:52.37 | Codayus | I ended up switching to django, which has the advantages of being python and with more flexible templating. I believe the performance of django on VERY high traffic sites tends to be better, but it's probably not something you'd need to worry about. |
| 18:53.20 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Eh. I disagree. It's a lot harder to write unmaintainable rails pages, because of the restrictions in place on how rails is used, for example. |
| 18:53.34 | Antiarc|Work | The tradeoff is that rails is more complex and takes more time to set up a project. |
| 18:53.35 | [dRaCo] | Antiarc|Work: any hints on good literature concering rails? |
| 18:53.55 | Antiarc|Work | [dRaCo]: Agile Web Development on Rails is the only rails book I own, but it's a good one :) |
| 18:53.57 | jme | [dRaCo]: pragmatic programming rails books |
| 18:54.10 | Codayus | To the PHP defenders: You can write good code in anything. PHP makes it trivial to write very bad code. The language almost actively works to tempt you to the dark side. |
| 18:54.13 | jme | agile web development being one of them |
| 18:54.32 | [dRaCo] | thanks =) |
| 18:54.57 | striper | damn, who broke that AuldLangSyne code? |
| 18:54.57 | Antiarc|Work | I've run into enough stupid "gotchas" in the past to have a distaste for how easy it is to slip up in PHP |
| 18:54.59 | Antiarc|Work | For example - |
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| 18:55.20 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: Eh, yeah, obviously language restrictions will affect it. But i'm generally of the opinion that bad programming practices are not limited to any specific language. Languages just allow/disallow (or encourage/discourage if you prefer) certain practices. |
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| 18:55.29 | [dRaCo] | Codayus: yeah, untyped variables are funny :> |
| 18:56.24 | Codayus | Since the main advantage of PHP is how easy it is to hack something together, that's an almost crippling flaw. If you're planning on writing a major web app, why use PHP? And if you aren't planning on it, but the time you realize what you're doing, your code base is irrevocably mangled. :-p |
| 18:56.25 | Antiarc|Work | I had to maintain a project that someone else wrote. We had some truly bizarre stuff happening with specific customers, and it took me like 3 weeks to figure out that it was because of a session variable coming in and tainting the initial value of a local variable, which caused the whole thing to blow up. We had register_globals on for legacy reasons, and the simple lack of a local variable initialization caused massive headaches. |
| 18:56.39 | NightHawkAtWork | Codayus: to be sure, I'm not defending the untold virtues of php, I just don't think that's its directly responsible for bad programming practices, it just allows them, but lots of other languages do as well. |
| 18:57.07 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Agreed, but my argument is that programming languages that enforce better practices tend to end up with better code, given the same programmer. |
| 18:57.13 | trh | Antiarc|Work: ouch.. had the same problem, but as it was only a very very small project i found it pretty fast :) |
| 18:57.15 | Undine | woah, wish i'd checked irc before updating. stupid AuldLangSyne ;) |
| 18:57.25 | Codayus | NightHawkAtWork: Oh, agreed. People accuse VB of the same thing and it's wrong there too. Neither language CAUSES bad programming; both enable it and should be avoided wherever possible. |
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| 18:57.52 | trh | <3 c# :) |
| 18:58.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: that's more or less a given, but I don't think that makes a language necesarily better or worse. |
| 18:58.12 | Antiarc|Work | I think that PHP is absolutely fantastic for quick utilities and such. There's no need to use a framework for a light log viewing layer, for example. |
| 18:58.18 | Tornhoof | i always thought vb enabled people to design awful ui, with colored buttons and stuff |
| 18:58.33 | Antiarc|Work | And I wrote my armory tools in it for both development speed and performance reasons, relative to ruby. |
| 18:59.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, most of the small personal stuff I do I end up doing in php, mostly because it's fast, easy, and I already know it, as opposed to learning something else. |
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| 18:59.42 | Pkekyo | anyone know what those 'drawingboards' you connect to your comp are really called? |
| 18:59.49 | durcyn | tablets |
| 18:59.51 | Tornhoof | graphic tablets? |
| 18:59.59 | durcyn | just google 'wacom' |
| 19:00.01 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 19:00.04 | Tornhoof | just google wacom |
| 19:00.12 | jme | just google "wacom" |
| 19:00.17 | Mecdemort | If, as the svn-rules page states, we shouldnt checkout with externals, what do I do to get said libraries so that the addon is usable? |
| 19:00.18 | NightHawkAtWork | or, you know, wacom.com |
| 19:00.36 | Mikk | Mecdemort: check those libraries out? or get em via wau? |
| 19:00.39 | Pkekyo | approx cost of something like that? |
| 19:00.51 | Tornhoof | 300 euro for dinA4+ |
| 19:01.09 | Mecdemort | Mikk: Then just manually copy them over? |
| 19:01.16 | Codayus | Wacom is the gold standard. Lots of people make grossly inferior tablets though. :-) |
| 19:01.50 | Tornhoof | for the professional ones pkekyo (intuos line) |
| 19:02.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Mecdemort: libraries downloaded/checked out on their own can be used just like standalone addons. |
| 19:02.32 | Mecdemort | NightHawkAtWork: I know, but won't the addons still look for them in their on folder and throw errors? |
| 19:02.34 | Pkekyo | 300 euros...holy shit...more than my new hardware cost me >.< |
| 19:02.41 | Tornhoof | there are cheaper ones |
| 19:02.50 | Tornhoof | not that exact |
| 19:02.54 | Tornhoof | (lower dpi) |
| 19:03.01 | Tornhoof | or cable connections with battery |
| 19:03.05 | Tornhoof | or similar |
| 19:03.13 | NightHawkAtWork | Mecdemort: not really, as long as the library is present somewhere, it'll load fine. |
| 19:03.16 | Codayus | Depends on size. The Intuous3 are the best; they have more levels of pressure senstivity, tilt sensor, AND rotation sensor. |
| 19:03.18 | Tornhoof | for some quick paint stuff the cheap ones are fine |
| 19:03.24 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 19:03.38 | NightHawkAtWork | Mecdemort: And, to be sure, you should download zips or use WAU for things that you arnt' planning on actively developing/committing |
| 19:03.51 | Pkekyo | just wanna do some detailed gfx with it, nothing at a professional level |
| 19:04.21 | Codayus | If your job (or a VERY serious hobby) relies on really good input into a computer...buy the Intuous. It's that good. Graphire should be fine for anything less. |
| 19:04.28 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 19:04.31 | Tornhoof | graphire is smaller |
| 19:04.40 | Mecdemort | NightHawkAtWork: Well the problem is that I might not commit them, but I do muck around with all my addons so to keep the changes from being overwriten when updating i was suggested to use svn |
| 19:04.40 | Codayus | Graphire has 512 levels of pressure sensitivity, which is a *lot*. |
| 19:04.47 | jme | http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/13243 |
| 19:04.49 | Codayus | Oh, and they just released the Bamboo I think? |
| 19:04.49 | jme | haha |
| 19:04.58 | Bver | hey, my guild is having a problem with omen not giving correct threat on phase 2 of the illidan stormrage fight |
| 19:04.59 | Pkekyo | er...don't have a job, and my very serious hobby is photography |
| 19:05.26 | Bver | we reset as he goes to phase 2, but somehow the threat messes up |
| 19:05.31 | dreamss | ARE THEY HARD TO USE? |
| 19:05.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Mecdemort: Yeah, then checkout the addons you plan on changing, without externals, then Just download/install the libraries you need separately, install them as standalone addons, and it'll work fine. |
| 19:05.52 | Tornhoof | yeh bamboo is cheaper, graphire too, maybe 150 euro |
| 19:06.01 | Antiarc|Work | Bver: I don't know the fight at all. Can you give me the specifics? |
| 19:06.30 | Bver | well phase 2 you fight 2 mobs both called Flames of Azzinoth |
| 19:06.31 | Pkekyo | 150 is still fuckall much money to me...meh |
| 19:06.39 | Tornhoof | you can get cheaper ones |
| 19:06.44 | Tornhoof | they are not much worse |
| 19:06.55 | Tornhoof | they don't have any fancy additional pens |
| 19:06.59 | Tornhoof | like airbrush pen or something |
| 19:07.10 | Pkekyo | as unemployed I have an income of..err...100 euros/month |
| 19:07.23 | Bver | but yeah it seems the threat is somehow messing up |
| 19:07.24 | Mecdemort | NightHawkAtWork: ok, thanks |
| 19:07.27 | Antiarc|Work | Bver: What's messing up, specifically? |
| 19:07.33 | Bver | like people are staying 20k below and still pulling |
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| 19:07.56 | Antiarc|Work | Since both mobs are the same name, you can't track threat on both of them accurately, which may be the problem, depending on how you handle it. |
| 19:08.27 | Pkekyo | Tornhoof: airbrush pens? |
| 19:08.33 | Bver | yeah i think thats the problem |
| 19:08.39 | Tornhoof | looks like some airbrush pistol |
| 19:08.45 | Tornhoof | including the same controls |
| 19:08.47 | Antiarc|Work | It should be accurate on the first, but the second will be inaccurate, unfortunately. |
| 19:08.49 | Tornhoof | very fancy |
| 19:08.52 | Bver | we manually reset the threat before that phase |
| 19:08.54 | Antiarc|Work | There's not much way around that, I'm afraid. |
| 19:08.55 | Antiarc|Work | Right. |
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| 19:09.02 | Antiarc|Work | Are people pulling aggro on the first one, or the second? |
| 19:09.16 | Tornhoof | there are some cheap aiptek tablets they are maybe 30-40 euro, but a lot worse than wacom |
| 19:09.23 | Pkekyo | Tornhoof: what's the point of it? - at a non-professional level, that is... |
| 19:09.25 | Bver | first one, the first couple of times people were 10k below the tank and pulled |
| 19:09.44 | Bver | idk its odd |
| 19:09.51 | Tornhoof | well wacom is the best there is, they have like every patent for that stuff |
| 19:10.02 | Tornhoof | so all the other companies just produce worse tablets |
| 19:10.04 | Esteth | If i have a bunch of conditions i want to be true for something to happen, but i want to respond with a different error message depending on which condition(s) failed, is there a better way to do it than nesting if/else statements for each condition? |
| 19:10.05 | Codayus | Pkekyo: One of the advantages of the Intuous line is they have some optional pens and things. At US$80 each or so...not cheap. |
| 19:10.08 | Bver | i mean we can get past that stage, i just wanted to bring it to your attn |
| 19:10.27 | Pkekyo | 250 euros plus tax and shipping for graphire wireless |
| 19:10.33 | Codayus | But neat toys. :-) |
| 19:10.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Bver: are the two mobs each being tanked? That could be caused by the threat from the tank on the 'second' one being added to the first, so it looks like the tank on the first has more threat than he actually does? |
| 19:10.57 | Tornhoof | i still have an 8 year old tablet here |
| 19:10.58 | Pkekyo | Codayus: might be true, but fuckall useless at my level :> |
| 19:11.07 | Tornhoof | back then they shipped it in some neat wooden box |
| 19:11.10 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 19:11.22 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. Thanks, Bver |
| 19:11.26 | Antiarc|Work | I'll see what I can come up with. |
| 19:11.30 | Bver | NightHawk yeah, thats prolly the issue |
| 19:11.35 | Pkekyo | hm |
| 19:11.42 | Pkekyo | can't find any dealers either |
| 19:11.54 | Bver | is thier anyway to check if a mob has a raid icon on it? |
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| 19:12.09 | Bver | and what raid icon? |
| 19:12.15 | Pkekyo | my real problem is what tax on something like that would be >.< |
| 19:12.20 | Esteth | Bver: I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, i'm just not sure how |
| 19:12.50 | Bver | well couldnt you just check mobs with the same name, via raid icons? |
| 19:12.52 | NightHawkAtWork | Bver: you can check any mob that you can refer to (target, targettaraget, or such) for it's raid icon, but you can't determine from combat log messages at all |
| 19:13.05 | Bver | ahh |
| 19:13.07 | Bver | ok |
| 19:13.15 | NightHawkAtWork | Since threat uses combat log, there's no way to know which mob the damage is being done against. |
| 19:13.26 | V^ | Skinner is broken for me now :((((( |
| 19:13.48 | V^ | ;'((((((((( |
| 19:13.53 | Pkekyo | anyone got any good screenies of skinner being used? |
| 19:14.03 | V^ | I regret updating without backing up |
| 19:14.12 | V^ | http://surl.se/catk |
| 19:14.15 | V^ | That was mine Pkekyo |
| 19:14.17 | Esteth | V^: grab an older version from files.wowace.com |
| 19:14.30 | trh | or use the backup.xml from wau |
| 19:14.54 | Pkekyo | how is customizing the skinner skin? |
| 19:15.03 | V^ | how do you get older version Esteth :s |
| 19:15.26 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r44107 10Sphere/ (Buttons/Buttons.lua Tooltip/Tooltip.lua): Sphere: - Fixed Druid Spells (Mangle, Faerie Fire, etc) |
| 19:15.30 | trh | v: files.wowace.com/Skinner |
| 19:15.49 | V^ | ok! |
| 19:15.50 | Pkekyo | is the new version of skinner fuckedup? |
| 19:16.30 | V^ | For me it is :< |
| 19:16.38 | V^ | getting hueg error spam |
| 19:16.39 | Pkekyo | - but not in general? |
| 19:16.45 | V^ | I have no idea |
| 19:17.29 | Esteth | V^: i'll give you a url in a sec |
| 19:17.43 | deltron | not used skinner in a while |
| 19:17.52 | deltron | since I started using lightheaded :P |
| 19:18.05 | Pkekyo | deltron: lightheaded? |
| 19:18.16 | deltron | Pkekyo: only the best quest mod ever |
| 19:18.18 | Esteth | V^: Ah, i forget they blocked public SVN access :S |
| 19:18.25 | Esteth | V^: I'm not sure how to do it now |
| 19:18.30 | Esteth | <3 Lightheaded |
| 19:18.39 | NimbleRabit | can I get a link to ace2 kcitems |
| 19:18.45 | Thrae | Esteth: svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk doesn't work for downloading? |
| 19:18.49 | Undine | what's the connection between skinner and lightheaded? |
| 19:18.51 | Pkekyo | why'd the block public svn? |
| 19:18.53 | deltron | Pkekyo: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 19:19.04 | V^ | it worked for me |
| 19:19.04 | V^ | =D |
| 19:19.11 | Esteth | worked for me, too :) |
| 19:19.18 | deltron | Undine: skinner would cause big issues with lightheaded, such as it wouldn't attach to the quest window |
| 19:19.21 | Esteth | thought i'd read somewhere that it had been blocked to the public :S |
| 19:19.30 | Thrae | Esteth: dun think so |
| 19:19.49 | Undine | ah. must admit <3 lightheaded |
| 19:20.03 | Thrae | omg but lightheaded isn't ace2 !11!11one |
| 19:20.04 | NightHawkAtWork | No, public checkout/export is still available. |
| 19:20.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: and that's why I don't use it! :P |
| 19:20.25 | deltron | I don't care if it's not ace2 really |
| 19:20.28 | NightHawkAtWork | (/sarcasm) |
| 19:20.50 | Thrae | if lighteaded wur ace2 it would like use -500kb, meaning you gain 500kb |
| 19:20.53 | NightHawkAtWork | Man, white bread sure tastes nasty. >< |
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| 19:20.56 | cryogen | hmm |
| 19:21.02 | cryogen | some addon isnt letting me accept resses :) |
| 19:21.05 | deltron | LightHeaded + TomTom + cartographer = win |
| 19:21.18 | Esteth | What does TomTom do? |
| 19:21.27 | Codayus | cryogen: You wouldn't happen to be in Gruuls lair, would you? |
| 19:21.30 | deltron | makes coordinates clickable |
| 19:21.34 | cryogen | Codayus: yes |
| 19:21.36 | Thrae | I thought TomTom worked like Cartographer |
| 19:21.40 | Thrae | Ah |
| 19:21.43 | cryogen | as it happens i am |
| 19:21.46 | Diao | why does lightheaded have folders for levels 61-80? |
| 19:21.50 | Diao | o_O |
| 19:21.59 | Codayus | cryogen: Several people in my guild have seen that bug. Relogging fixes it. Reloadui doesn't seem to. |
| 19:22.02 | Josh_Borke | Diao: some quests are lvl 71+ |
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| 19:22.10 | Diao | oh |
| 19:22.13 | Thrae | Diao: Because you can still get quests that are those levels |
| 19:22.15 | Diao | didn't know of any |
| 19:22.17 | Diao | that were over 70 |
| 19:22.18 | Diao | lol |
| 19:22.21 | Codayus | It only happens in gruuls lair too. Most odd. Might be a bliz bug. <shrug> |
| 19:22.22 | NightHawkAtWork | And planning ahead! :P |
| 19:22.26 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.27 | cryogen | Codayus: ye, i logged out, disabled all addons, logged back in and it was fin |
| 19:22.29 | Esteth | Lightheaded + cartographer still lets me click the co-ordinates, and afaik, i don't have tomtom installed |
| 19:22.33 | Josh_Borke | diao: any yellow/orange quests are probably 71+ |
| 19:22.43 | Codayus | cryogen: No need to disable addons from what I've seen. |
| 19:22.45 | NightHawkAtWork | cryogen: i think its a blizz issue, not addon related, I've seen that before too |
| 19:22.53 | cryogen | Codayus: noted :) |
| 19:23.00 | cryogen | although logging back in was MUCH faster with no addons :D |
| 19:23.06 | Pkekyo | cryogen: try /Script AcceptResurrection() |
| 19:23.07 | deltron | Esteth: ah, righto, does it add the quest info into cartographer? |
| 19:23.11 | Codayus | Pkekyo: The bug I've seen is that you never even get the box; it silently fails. |
| 19:23.26 | Pkekyo | ouch |
| 19:23.28 | Josh_Borke | i believe clad worked with the Cart_Waypoints author to make that compatible |
| 19:23.30 | NightHawkAtWork | yea |
| 19:23.34 | Pkekyo | and a simple relog fixes it? |
| 19:23.35 | Codayus | I didn't try the script; the box could just be hidden somehow. |
| 19:23.43 | Diao | weird, just searched wowhead for some adn there aren't any 71+ quests lol |
| 19:24.16 | Esteth | deltron: I use Cart_quests and the like, so i end up with the questgivers and mobs/pickups/questpoints filled in on my map anyway |
| 19:24.17 | Codayus | Pkekyo: What I've seen is, once it bugs, you will see no resurrection attempts until you relog. Only happens in Gruul's Lair. Only happens rarely. Seems to happen to many different people in my guild. |
| 19:24.34 | Codayus | And a quick relog fixes it. |
| 19:24.46 | Pkekyo | that's a fuckall weird bug, aye |
| 19:24.51 | deltron | Esteth: I mean when you click coords in lightheaded, does it add the arrow with the eta, distance, mob/quest name? |
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| 19:25.02 | Esteth | deltron: yes. |
| 19:25.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Codayus: I've seen it other instances too |
| 19:25.10 | deltron | ah |
| 19:25.13 | deltron | rawk |
| 19:25.56 | Codayus | NightHawkAtWork: Hmm, ever seen it in Kara? |
| 19:26.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Codayus: not in kara, that i recall. But I've seen it in a couple 5 mans, like ramparts, and i think slave pens or underbog |
| 19:27.58 | Codayus | Hm, my guild mostly raids Kara and Gruul. I've never seen it in a 5-man or Kara - just in Gruul. I was going to speculate it's a 25-man only bug, but if it happens in 5-mans.... |
| 19:29.07 | Pkekyo | meh, wacom is fuckall expensive :< |
| 19:29.20 | Keias | oh wow |
| 19:29.26 | Keias | CowTip is throwing me tons of errors |
| 19:29.42 | Pkekyo | <-- haven't gotten a single error from it yet |
| 19:29.45 | Srosh | You mean it moos? :P |
| 19:29.55 | Hjalte | This is a long shot, but does anyone know what new movie uses "Aquerela do Brasil" in its movie trailer? |
| 19:30.22 | Keias | Gives me an error everytime I mouse over anything lol |
| 19:30.31 | Keias | just logged in and up to 95 errors lol |
| 19:30.44 | Pkekyo | Keias: using any addons that influence cowtip? |
| 19:30.52 | Keias | Yeah, nm just read bugsack |
| 19:30.54 | Keias | It's skinner |
| 19:30.59 | _Saint-N | vanilla ice ice baby |
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| 19:31.28 | Pkekyo | skinner has problems with cowtip? |
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| 19:31.44 | NimbleRabit | cowtip looks like it can be made to be pretty sexy |
| 19:31.54 | Kemayo | striper / Undine: I can fix ALS if you give me actual error messages. :P |
| 19:32.33 | Undine | Kemayo, that would make it too easy |
| 19:32.51 | Undine | besides, there were oodles, it was timing out bugsack |
| 19:32.57 | Nyri | is there an addon, showing castbars and cooldowns of arena oponents? |
| 19:33.06 | NimbleRabit | antagonist |
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| 19:33.16 | Nyri | not of the target |
| 19:33.17 | deltron | cowtip is great, I use it to spy on other people's guild rank names |
| 19:33.24 | Nyri | but of all oponents |
| 19:33.27 | NimbleRabit | antagonist can be made to be all opponents |
| 19:33.28 | NimbleRabit | it's an option |
| 19:33.51 | NimbleRabit | uncheck "Self-Relevent" |
| 19:33.55 | NimbleRabit | and there may be another option too |
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| 19:34.28 | Kemayo | Undine: In that case the first error would be helpful, since it's likely leading to all the others. |
| 19:34.29 | Pkekyo | Tornhoof: still here? |
| 19:35.01 | Pkekyo | does the size of the wacom drawing pads matter much? |
| 19:36.22 | Tornhoof | depends on how big you draw ;) |
| 19:36.25 | Saint-N | only in the comfort and comparission limit |
| 19:36.36 | Saint-N | the new watcoms are awesome |
| 19:36.56 | Tornhoof | i think its only important for CAD or redrawing some printed stuff |
| 19:37.12 | Saint-N | its pretty nice for just doodling and drawing too |
| 19:37.18 | Pkekyo | 208 x 203.8 x 17.8 mm should be sufficient, no? |
| 19:37.30 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 19:37.33 | Droolio | i just discovered notepad++. is there any plugins or .api thingies to make it more wow-specific? |
| 19:37.45 | Saint-N | notepad2 r0x0rz |
| 19:38.02 | Pkekyo | WinSyntax > notepad2 imo :> |
| 19:38.05 | Droolio | there's so many editors and not enough time :( |
| 19:38.09 | Saint-N | lies! |
| 19:38.14 | deltron | scite! |
| 19:38.21 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work ping |
| 19:38.29 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 19:38.31 | Saint-N | antyhing that doesnt respond instantly when viewing or editting a file sucks ;;P |
| 19:38.37 | Saint-N | i hate long software load times |
| 19:39.14 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work what i mentioned earlier in whisper i made a screen maybe u understand better http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071807223818jg3.jpg |
| 19:39.29 | Kemayo | Droolio: Notepad++ is one of those that embed scintilla, so api files for SciTE should work with it. |
| 19:39.46 | NimbleRabit | I like the old way LH used to display comments |
| 19:39.50 | deltron | Kemayo: oh really? |
| 19:39.50 | deltron | hmm |
| 19:39.51 | Antiarc|Work | Oooh, that one. |
| 19:39.54 | Saint-N | te== tournament edition? |
| 19:39.56 | Antiarc|Work | I think I know what that is. |
| 19:39.56 | Droolio | Kemayo: aha, what about wow api? |
| 19:40.01 | deltron | there's a lot of stuff I do with scite though |
| 19:40.04 | Silviu- | Sometimes tps values apear |
| 19:40.06 | Silviu- | sometimes no |
| 19:40.10 | Droolio | i've been using wowuidesigner thus far, like the look of notepad++ over scite and apparently they're based on the same scintlla? |
| 19:40.25 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 19:40.32 | deltron | seems so |
| 19:40.33 | Kemayo | Droolio: You can grab my wow api file for scite here: http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/downloads/list |
| 19:41.15 | Droolio | Kemayo: sweetness, that's just what i was looking for ty |
| 19:41.17 | deltron | I use scite for my autoit & vbscripts |
| 19:41.33 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work sorry i can`t provide u with ... a true behaviour when it happans or when not ;) |
| 19:41.43 | Kemayo | Droolio: Looks like you might need to define a custom language for it, per this: http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/auto-completion-HOWTO.php |
| 19:41.45 | Antiarc|Work | No problem. Just knowing it's there is useful. |
| 19:42.06 | Silviu- | Btw i tryed different settings |
| 19:42.14 | Silviu- | i had it first at 0.50 now 0.05 |
| 19:42.18 | Silviu- | but same baheviour |
| 19:42.42 | Fin | aha! |
| 19:42.56 | Fin | I've figured out why WoW was crashing every time I tried to use Calibri! |
| 19:43.00 | Kemayo | With scite I like being able to enable SciteDirectory.properties files, and have only .lua files in my wow directory get the wow api. :D |
| 19:43.09 | Silviu- | Fin why ? ;) |
| 19:43.09 | Fin | it's *named* .ttf, but it's not *actually* a TrueType font |
| 19:43.19 | Silviu- | Hmm strange i have calibri |
| 19:43.22 | Fin | I hope this is going to work |
| 19:43.23 | Silviu- | and is not crashing |
| 19:43.41 | Fin | Calibri is basically the only font I want to use, and it was the only font crashing WoW, really annoying |
| 19:44.21 | Xuerian | fin: I can send you the version of calibri I use, and I just replace it in the fonts folder. :P |
| 19:44.33 | Fin | Xuerian: that would be awesome, thanks |
| 19:44.59 | Fin | I've tried all sorts to get this work, messed up my interface for a while now because all the ratios are messed up |
| 19:45.07 | jme | i <3 the instant mail now |
| 19:45.27 | jme | i levelled my level 9 priest's first aid to 147 last night, mwahaha |
| 19:45.47 | Fin | being able to use heavy mageweave bandages at level 10 rules :) |
| 19:45.49 | break19 | I finally found the offending addon that kept giving me "no such player" in the BGs |
| 19:45.54 | break19 | JasonQuest. |
| 19:46.01 | Undine | Kemayo, sorry. got distracted. i'll reinstall and give you proper feedback soon as I get a free moment |
| 19:46.35 | Fin | Xuerian++ |
| 19:46.38 | jme | i read that as "free mount" and thought you were talking about paladins :( |
| 19:46.41 | Xuerian | :) |
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| 19:46.56 | Silviu- | Fin what crash error u get 132 ? |
| 19:47.16 | jme | ~whalecrit Xuerian's NIC |
| 19:47.17 | purl | ACTION crits Xuerian's NIC with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Xuerian's NIC dies |
| 19:47.28 | NightHawkAtWork | ~mourn Xuerian's NIC |
| 19:47.28 | purl | ACTION lights some candles for Xuerian's NIC |
| 19:47.31 | jme | #NaN/ |
| 19:47.32 | jme | ? |
| 19:47.38 | NightHawkAtWork | "Not a Number" |
| 19:47.42 | jme | oh |
| 19:48.04 | NightHawkAtWork | its what applications/compilers will use to indicate that something when massively massively wrong with their math :P |
| 19:48.07 | NightHawkAtWork | typically division by zero. |
| 19:48.24 | jme | yeah, i know, i just figured something went wrong with purl's script |
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| 19:48.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Nah, its supposed to be funny. |
| 19:48.39 | jme | ahh :) |
| 19:49.01 | break19 | fin: I can use heavy nw at lvl 50 on my war. heh |
| 19:49.07 | NightHawkAtWork | At least, I assume so. You could be entirely right. ANd it's just been busted this entire time ;) |
| 19:49.47 | Kemayo | Undine: Thanks! |
| 19:50.17 | Kemayo | break19: Ah, good to know it wasn't one of mine. |
| 19:50.19 | jme | i like how the npc's /say text in the escort quest on Zoram Strand (horde) is bugged, and uses #Name instead of your name |
| 19:50.22 | break19 | Kemayo: lol |
| 19:50.24 | Kemayo | break19: How is this JasonQuest thing? |
| 19:50.38 | NimbleRabit | So I just installed baggins and I want to add a Poisons category to my consumables bag |
| 19:50.45 | NimbleRabit | I can't figure out how to make that category show just poisons |
| 19:50.49 | Kemayo | (I, naturally, am opposed to it because it went off and reinvented the quest-log-parsing wheel.) |
| 19:50.58 | break19 | well.. it gives you a questlog.. for party members.. so you can help party members do quests that you've already done.... |
| 19:51.22 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r44108 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Ammo breaks stuff just for the fun of it! |
| 19:51.23 | Fin | Silviu-: not sure, I'll tell you if it crashes this time |
| 19:51.33 | Fin | Silviu-: but it loads the interface, I see everything for half a second before the crash |
| 19:51.53 | break19 | NimbleRabit: uhm.. periodictableset |
| 19:52.07 | break19 | and use "tradeskills crafted, poison |
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| 19:52.39 | break19 | or.. weapon buff - type - poison |
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| 19:53.46 | NimbleRabit | hmmm |
| 19:53.56 | break19 | I use "PTSet:Consumable.Weapon Buff.Poison" |
| 19:54.00 | NimbleRabit | thanks |
| 19:54.02 | break19 | np |
| 19:54.08 | NimbleRabit | I used tradeskills |
| 19:54.13 | NimbleRabit | wow baggins is freaking amazing |
| 19:54.58 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r44109 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Removed Debug messages, fixed CowTip issue |
| 19:55.00 | Fin | who should I contact if I wanted to make a small change to the ShareMediaLib readme? it seems it was written by Seerah, but the author is listed as "multiple people" and Elkano on the wiki |
| 19:55.22 | Silviu- | Elkano i guess ;) |
| 19:55.36 | Fin | even though Seerah wrote the readme? :) |
| 19:55.40 | Fin | heh |
| 19:56.19 | break19 | NimbleRabit: I swear by it. |
| 19:56.31 | break19 | NimbleRabit: sometimes I swear at it, but usually just by it.. |
| 19:56.43 | Esteth | I'm trying my best to make my first useful addon by fufilling a simple request from the requests forum, but i'm having trouble with even the simplest things. anyone mind having a look over a pastie? |
| 19:56.55 | Silviu- | Hmm good point did not see Elkano for some time here |
| 19:56.58 | Silviu- | ~seen Elkano |
| 19:57.22 | purl | elkano <i=86603dd4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-da55110571114ed5> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 41m 4s ago, saying: 'hmm... you are codingthis since 2 weeks and I didn't notice yet? :/ sucks to mot be able to play :/'. |
| 19:57.22 | break19 | i'll look, but only to learn more lua by osmosis... :p |
| 19:57.25 | break19 | I'm still waiting for the osmosis to start... |
| 19:57.26 | NimbleRabit | break19: hmm, how do I make it so Misc category won't show poisons now? |
| 19:57.29 | Fin | Esteth: go ahead and paste the pastey paste url |
| 19:57.34 | deltron | mjc: ping |
| 19:57.44 | Esteth | http://ace.pastey.net/71011 |
| 19:58.11 | Esteth | phone |
| 19:58.13 | break19 | NimbleRabit: two ways, place it above the misc section in your bag and hide duplicates. or place the ruleset into misc with a NOT operand in front of it |
| 19:58.24 | charon | anyone here who is familiar with ArkInventory filter rule semantics? |
| 19:58.32 | Esteth | bk |
| 19:58.33 | Fin | (Esteth: tip: put some information in the pastey paste describing what the problem is / what your question is / why you've pasted it :) |
| 19:59.15 | NimbleRabit | break19: ahh thanks, worked perfectly |
| 19:59.15 | Esteth | heh, i should just add more lines to the bottom/top of it? |
| 19:59.20 | NimbleRabit | using hide duplicates - bag |
| 19:59.24 | break19 | ya |
| 20:00.33 | Esteth | http://ace.pastey.net/71012 |
| 20:00.49 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44110 10Recount/ (Recount.lua WindowOrder.lua): Recount - Properly saves positions of scaled windows now |
| 20:01.14 | Fin | Esteth: try GWI:GetPhrase instead? |
| 20:02.23 | Fin | Esteth: ie, get = 'GWI:GetPhrase'? alternatively, try get = function() return self:GetPhrase() end, |
| 20:02.39 | Esteth | Fin: aha! that solved that problem :D |
| 20:03.23 | Fin | good stuff |
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| 20:03.59 | Esteth | Thanks muchly :) new problem now, but i'll try and solve it myself this time :) |
| 20:04.07 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 07Individuality * r44111 10AuldLangSyne/: AuldLangSyne: Branch off the modules-running-individually changes, because they're broken. |
| 20:05.04 | clad|book | Diao: There is a 61-80 level, because it offends my sense of symmetry to have 20 level blocks, and then switch to 10 level blocks at the end |
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| 20:05.32 | Fin | Esteth: good for you |
| 20:05.32 | clad|book | tho as someone pointed out, there's enough quests and comments to warrant a new block of folders for 71-80 quests, so I'll do that next expansion :P |
| 20:05.59 | snorks | any phat lewt |
| 20:07.03 | snorks | i want a game where i can clone 24 other people out of myself |
| 20:07.04 | snorks | with my skillz |
| 20:07.06 | Mecdemort | Do i need to move the libraries out of !!!StandaloneLibraries or can they jsut sit there? |
| 20:07.07 | snorks | as other classes |
| 20:07.23 | snorks | so that i can have a super raid when I want to raid |
| 20:07.51 | NimbleRabit | hmm how do I use the baggins_closetgnome thing |
| 20:09.16 | Esteth | hmm. is the value of an undeclared AceDB value nil? as in self.db.profile.theValueThatHasntYetBeenSet = nil? |
| 20:10.03 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44112 10AuldLangSyne/ (12 files in 5 dirs): AuldLangSyne: Rollback 44104 so things will work until I can fix the branch. |
| 20:10.30 | Kemayo | Esteth: Unless you have defaults for it, it should be. |
| 20:11.14 | Esteth | Kemayo: thanks :) |
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| 20:12.05 | Kemayo | profile and realm and char and all the others are just regular tables, albeit with some complex metatable use that you don't need to know about. Apart from in a few specific cases they'll behave exactly like any other table. |
| 20:13.07 | break19 | NimbleRabit: same way as you would set any category |
| 20:13.26 | break19 | it just shows up as a new "item type" selection |
| 20:15.17 | NimbleRabit | ahh I got it |
| 20:15.18 | NimbleRabit | thanks |
| 20:16.52 | NimbleRabit | so...hacked... |
| 20:16.56 | NimbleRabit | how have I been playing WoW without this mod |
| 20:17.00 | break19 | heh |
| 20:17.20 | break19 | my wife swears by onebag+mrplow I gotta have categories |
| 20:19.01 | NimbleRabit | heh |
| 20:19.13 | jme | http://tinyurl.com/339cq5 <- is the spec i'm thinking about switching to tonight |
| 20:19.14 | NimbleRabit | is there any to make baggins stuff open instead of normal stuff |
| 20:19.16 | break19 | my only beef.. I wish I could make it open a certain category by clickin one of my bags.. in essence have it replace my bags.. I know another mod that can do that.. but its not nearly as customizable |
| 20:19.24 | NimbleRabit | when I go to the mailbox, or edit a closetgnome set, etc |
| 20:20.07 | break19 | NimbleRabit: I hacked closetgnome to not open my bags at all.. and it never opens my bag at a mailbox. |
| 20:20.08 | jme | 41/20 bm/mm was good, it got me in the top 3 raid dps for a couple of weeks |
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| 20:21.09 | Fin | ckknight: ping |
| 20:22.04 | ckknight | Fin: pong |
| 20:22.16 | Mecdemort | Ok I just got wau and installed all the libraries and whatnot, but for some reason it didnt get WhoLib or ItemPrice-1.0, any idea why not? |
| 20:22.27 | Fin | ckknight: could you read this please, before I ask my question http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6243.msg121102#msg121102 |
| 20:23.26 | ckknight | Fin: use TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 20:23.33 | ckknight | imho |
| 20:23.42 | Fin | ckknight: what does TagCompiler do? |
| 20:23.48 | sb | ckknight: mh... are you going to implement that merging for other stuff than dots/hots? |
| 20:23.49 | Fin | is it an easy way to make tags? |
| 20:23.57 | Pkekyo | ~cowtip |
| 20:23.58 | purl | The tooltip addon that goes "moo". It'll graze your pastures. |
| 20:24.05 | ckknight | sb: wasn't especially planning on it. What were you thinking? |
| 20:24.09 | sb | mhh |
| 20:24.10 | ckknight | Fin: yea, basically. |
| 20:24.21 | Kemayo | Mecdemort: Which version of WAU? |
| 20:24.35 | QQngsk | ckknight, white dmg is nice to have merged |
| 20:24.58 | Pkekyo | who's the author of cowtip? |
| 20:25.03 | ckknight | me |
| 20:25.22 | Pkekyo | ckknight: just thought I'd let you know it has MAJOR issues with Skinner |
| 20:25.33 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:25.41 | Silviu- | Pkekyo i saw some update before at Skinner |
| 20:25.42 | ckknight | someone had better fix Skinner, then, eh? |
| 20:25.44 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r44113 10cgProfiler/raids/raids.lua: cgProfiler: Fixed small error with raid tracking. |
| 20:25.55 | Chompers | luls |
| 20:26.13 | Mecdemort | Kemayo: The latest, I just installed it from the site |
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| 20:26.45 | sb | ckknight: http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/2746/wowscrnshot071807210725ro9.jpg |
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| 20:27.26 | Pkekyo | is there any alternative to Skinner? |
| 20:27.49 | Fin | Pkekyo: to do what, skin all your frames and addon frames? |
| 20:27.54 | Kemayo | Mecdemort: If you installed libraries by installing !!!StandaloneLib then those libs are probably just not in it. If you have WAU2 (which is in beta) then whichever addons use those libs presumably have messed-up X-Embeds in their tocs. |
| 20:28.23 | Pkekyo | Fin: yeah, I'd like a new texture for the character pane etc |
| 20:28.43 | ckknight | sb: hrm... do you know if it hits everything in a single frame (i.e. timeslice)? |
| 20:29.12 | ckknight | if that's the case, I can be able to do a blanket throttle for multi-hits |
| 20:29.19 | Fin | Pkekyo: then, I think the answer's no, but you might want to look at SharedMedia |
| 20:29.35 | Pkekyo | damnit >.< |
| 20:29.42 | sb | mhh - would make sense - instant AoE effect on group members |
| 20:29.51 | sb | ckknight: but see mana... also spammy :( |
| 20:29.52 | Pkekyo | lmao, I keep crashing buggrabber with this cowtip vs. skinner bug :p |
| 20:30.01 | sb | + shadow in that group = uberspam |
| 20:30.21 | sb | (shadow priest) |
| 20:30.51 | Pkekyo | Fin: what does SharedMedia do? |
| 20:32.56 | Chompers | it's got lots of bar textures/fonts that addons can use |
| 20:33.14 | Athou_ | sb: add the name of the spell to the mana regen like +[Amount] Mana ([Spell]) and add a suppression on "Mana (Vampiric Touch)" |
| 20:33.22 | Fin | Pkekyo: it allows addons to share things like fonts, textures, backgrounds, etc. |
| 20:33.34 | Fin | Pkekyo: it's not what you're looking for, but it might help |
| 20:34.07 | Fin | like I said, might be worth looking at |
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| 20:38.59 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44114 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Add IteratePartyQuests(name) and IteratePartyQuestLeaderboard(name, quest). |
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| 20:42.11 | Saint-N | hehe sp spamis awesome |
| 20:42.30 | Saint-N | specially when you get ve vt mf and lifedrain going from the lock and a mana totem from a shaman |
| 20:42.42 | Saint-N | just awesome i tells ya |
| 20:42.53 | kergoth | is the weaponrebuff guy in here? |
| 20:43.05 | kergoth | it remembers the last poison you applied globally, not per weapon |
| 20:43.06 | kergoth | annoying |
| 20:43.12 | kergoth | left click on my mh, it wants to apply my oh's poision |
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| 20:43.26 | Saint-N | thats what you get for playing a rogue |
| 20:43.35 | Saint-N | damn pokey pokey poof poofs |
| 20:43.38 | Silviu- | And for beying lazy |
| 20:43.41 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:43.45 | Saint-N | that too |
| 20:43.46 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:43.54 | kergoth | stabbing is fun |
| 20:43.57 | kergoth | me likey stabbing |
| 20:44.00 | Saint-N | thats what she said |
| 20:44.06 | Chompers | *he said |
| 20:44.06 | Saint-N | wooooOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo |
| 20:44.20 | ckknight | Dexter is still awesome in S2 |
| 20:44.20 | Silviu- | And for hitting warlocks from behind ! ;) |
| 20:44.21 | Saint-N | yeah the S was habit ;P |
| 20:44.28 | Chompers | you like it ckk? |
| 20:44.30 | Saint-N | when does the new season start btw |
| 20:44.45 | Saint-N | mid august? |
| 20:44.46 | ckknight | Chompers: just saw S02E01 and S02E02 |
| 20:44.48 | Chompers | i thought it was a great start to s2, he's got his mojo back :D |
| 20:44.49 | ckknight | September |
| 20:44.58 | Chompers | uhm, spoilers :X |
| 20:45.00 | Saint-N | yeah the books are way more awesome though |
| 20:45.01 | Chompers | sorry about that |
| 20:45.10 | Athou_ | ckknight: is it be possible to add the number of spells throttled ? |
| 20:45.15 | Athou_ | (in parrot) |
| 20:45.15 | Saint-N | but the show sticks pretty close |
| 20:45.24 | Saint-N | theres just a bit more back story to give a bit more sense |
| 20:45.26 | ckknight | Athou_: you mean like to show a count? |
| 20:45.30 | Athou_ | yes |
| 20:45.46 | ckknight | possible... |
| 20:45.53 | Fisker- | S02 of what? |
| 20:45.57 | ckknight | Dexter |
| 20:46.05 | Fisker- | wuts dat? |
| 20:46.31 | Saint-N | showcase show |
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| 20:46.55 | Saint-N | about a serial killer who works for the cops and only kills the bad peoiple who beat the system |
| 20:47.07 | Saint-N | go to sho.com and you can watch episodes streamed i believe |
| 20:47.26 | Fisker- | NICE |
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| 20:47.39 | Elkano | are there any scripts out there that make good use of Blizzard's item data in the armory eg for showing tooltips in a forum? |
| 20:48.11 | Chompers | Fisker- hasn't seen Dexter? :o |
| 20:48.27 | Saint-N | he lives in a box under the front porch |
| 20:48.32 | Saint-N | it's expected he hasnt ;) |
| 20:48.35 | Chompers | i thought he lived in /b/ |
| 20:48.50 | Xuerian | Probably a safe bet. |
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| 20:49.14 | Silviu- | Elkano |
| 20:49.15 | Punkie` | Fisker- lives under any porch that he can steal wi-fi from |
| 20:49.18 | Silviu- | [22:55:32] <F'Fin> who should I contact if I wanted to make a small change to the ShareMediaLib readme? it seems it was written by Seerah, but the author is listed as "multiple people" and Elkano on the wiki |
| 20:49.19 | Silviu- | :) |
| 20:49.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44115 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - for HoTs/DoTs, add [Count], which is the number of spellcasts that make up the message. |
| 20:50.14 | charon | ckknight, or whoever might know: any news on the frames that suddenly get rearranged when i hide UI/show UI? |
| 20:50.18 | ckknight | Saint-N: Showtime, not Showcase |
| 20:50.25 | Fisker- | yeah Punkie` :O |
| 20:50.32 | Fisker- | Chompers i see so many other shows |
| 20:50.33 | Saint-N | yeah sorry nthats the canadian in me ;) |
| 20:50.36 | ckknight | why do you hide/show UI so much so that it matters? |
| 20:50.48 | Elkano | Silviu-, I ported SurfaceLib into SharedMediaLib, Seerah added MyMedia description. and I wrote him a PM already |
| 20:50.55 | Saint-N | showtime is the semi artsy canadian after 10pm porn channel |
| 20:51.00 | Silviu- | Oky srry :P |
| 20:51.01 | Saint-N | sister to bravo |
| 20:51.03 | Silviu- | Wanted to let u know |
| 20:51.04 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 20:51.14 | charon | ckknight: i don't do it _that_ often but it _consistently_ messes up the buff display _every_ time so that i _have_ to reload ui if i want to do any buff/debuff related stuff afterwards. |
| 20:51.22 | Elkano | well, you couldn't know I already knew ^^ so thx :) |
| 20:51.31 | ckknight | I'm not going to work on Auras for now |
| 20:51.38 | Chompers | ckknight: you've probably fixed this but when i use a HOT on myself it says [Name] instead of my name |
| 20:51.48 | ckknight | yea, I fixed it |
| 20:52.04 | Saint-N | charon: ckk is bored of pitbull, he's working on messing ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hfixing scrolling text ;) |
| 20:52.05 | Chompers | ah right cool |
| 20:52.11 | fireglow | anyone here using infinibar? |
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| 20:52.21 | Athou_ | ckknight: thanks :) |
| 20:52.26 | Fisker- | Punkie` is a Fisker-supporter |
| 20:52.27 | ckknight | :-) |
| 20:52.31 | Punkie` | lies |
| 20:52.37 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 20:52.40 | Punkie` | its a secret circle and you actually support me |
| 20:52.46 | Fisker- | nice |
| 20:52.46 | Punkie` | now go make me a sandwich |
| 20:52.49 | Punkie` | non-acid |
| 20:52.51 | Saint-N | punkie |
| 20:52.58 | Saint-N | it's sudo go make me a sammich |
| 20:53.05 | Punkie` | no, thats when he says no |
| 20:53.08 | Punkie` | ;D |
| 20:53.09 | charon | Saint-N: yeah. he has even called it a "fringe bug" in privmsg. i mean yeah... using a standard blizzard feature totally wrecks a unit frame's raid buff display. very minor. |
| 20:53.33 | Esteth | fireglow: i'm using infinibar |
| 20:53.41 | Saint-N | charon: aguf does that too to a degree, mainly in that the aura icon is lightly too big for the frame in raid |
| 20:53.54 | Saint-N | thats why i dont use either for raid |
| 20:54.08 | Neebler | this ones for you ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=388089481&sid=1 |
| 20:54.08 | darchon_ | Saroz: sRaidFrames NormalizeSpellName function not work on korean client. All status are show the shadowform. |
| 20:54.10 | Neebler | :P |
| 20:54.16 | Saint-N | smartbuff+perfect raid means i dont care if i see thier buffs, i just wanna know who doesnt have one ;P |
| 20:54.35 | Chompers | a manwich |
| 20:54.41 | Saint-N | !rimshot |
| 20:54.44 | Saint-N | ~rimshot |
| 20:54.45 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 20:54.45 | Fisker- | btw |
| 20:54.46 | Chompers | mmm, meaty goodness |
| 20:54.50 | Fisker- | i put anti-matter in it |
| 20:55.00 | Saint-N | you like the man meat dontcha chompers |
| 20:55.03 | Fisker- | you're being packed into a singularity Punkie` |
| 20:55.09 | Chompers | yes, yes i do. |
| 20:55.11 | Saint-N | between two firm manly buns |
| 20:55.12 | Fisker- | fukken owned |
| 20:55.23 | Punkie` | but that's great |
| 20:55.38 | Punkie` | once there you get all the knowledge of the universe and come out again as a winrar |
| 20:55.41 | fireglow | Esteth: ok...about the setup... is the only way to add a full bar: adding a bar, adding buttons and then giving each bottum +35 xoffset from the last one? |
| 20:55.59 | fireglow | buttom :( |
| 20:56.09 | Fisker- | no Punkie` |
| 20:56.12 | Fisker- | already been there |
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| 20:56.21 | Punkie` | you didn't look up |
| 20:56.27 | Saint-N | fisker reached the end of the internet like 4 months ago |
| 20:56.36 | Saint-N | he rolled it |
| 20:56.49 | Chompers | like that voyager episode, where he turns into a fish after reaching warp 10 |
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| 20:56.52 | buchkurish | mmm does anyone know |
| 20:56.52 | Fisker- | do want |
| 20:56.56 | buchkurish | what the best race for rogue is??? |
| 20:56.58 | Chompers | Fisker- did the same but stayed as a fish |
| 20:57.08 | Punkie` | buchkurish: depends what for, gnomes rule anyway |
| 20:57.18 | Esteth | fireglow: no. add your buttons, go to the bar setup for that bar. at the bottom is a layout dropdown |
| 20:57.28 | buchkurish | Punkie`: that is what i heard |
| 20:57.35 | Saint-N | http://www.xkcd.com/ |
| 20:57.37 | buchkurish | Punkie`: please, tell me why gnome rulez |
| 20:57.37 | Esteth | fireglow: select horizontal/vertical, enter 36 as your offsets, and click "arrange" |
| 20:57.52 | Punkie` | Saint-N: Want a bite out of my Snapple? ;) |
| 20:57.58 | Esteth | fireglow: don't have the addon infront of me now, but it's something like that :) |
| 20:58.00 | buchkurish | Punkie`: they have been ruling for a while 'gnome rogue' right? |
| 20:58.21 | Punkie` | gnome rogues rule because you get escape artist |
| 20:58.27 | fireglow | Esteth: ah, but before i arange the bar, i need to add the buttons, right? |
| 20:58.29 | Punkie` | and obviously they are better than any other race too |
| 20:58.31 | buchkurish | mm escape artist? never heard |
| 20:58.39 | Esteth | fireglow: yes |
| 20:58.44 | fireglow | ok, thanks |
| 20:58.44 | Punkie` | it frees you from all snares, 1m cooldown |
| 20:58.47 | fireglow | :) |
| 20:58.47 | buchkurish | i do not know much about gnome, will you tell me a little bit |
| 20:58.51 | buchkurish | really? |
| 20:58.53 | Punkie` | yes |
| 20:58.57 | buchkurish | Punkie`: what is a snare |
| 20:59.07 | buchkurish | Punkie`: i know it something that nobody likes on them for sure |
| 20:59.21 | Esteth | buchkurish: something which slows your movement speed |
| 20:59.32 | buchkurish | ok |
| 20:59.35 | buchkurish | how about stun? |
| 20:59.38 | Punkie` | nope |
| 20:59.43 | buchkurish | ..ok so only slow movement |
| 20:59.46 | buchkurish | any slow movement? |
| 20:59.49 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 20:59.52 | Punkie` | or complete stop too ofc |
| 20:59.57 | Punkie` | like frost nova |
| 21:00.01 | buchkurish | mm oki |
| 21:00.04 | buchkurish | i liek so far |
| 21:00.05 | buchkurish | i have a rogue |
| 21:00.09 | buchkurish | may i show u guys what i have? |
| 21:00.20 | Punkie` | is it in your pants? |
| 21:00.41 | buchkurish | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Twstdbosnian |
| 21:00.43 | buchkurish | no its there |
| 21:00.50 | buchkurish | he is a nite elf, he will stay at that le vel for ever |
| 21:00.59 | buchkurish | but ive been leveling some other toons like shaman |
| 21:01.02 | ckknight | buchkurish: we use big-people words in this channel |
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| 21:01.04 | buchkurish | and ppl tell me they are not so good at pvp |
| 21:01.12 | ckknight | night, not nite |
| 21:01.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:01.17 | buchkurish | ok night =) |
| 21:01.21 | buchkurish | but i like to get away |
| 21:01.23 | buchkurish | i love to vanish |
| 21:01.29 | buchkurish | even when there is five around you |
| 21:01.33 | Punkie` | buchkurish: race wont necessarily make you a better pvper |
| 21:01.35 | buchkurish | very good chance to get away |
| 21:01.40 | buchkurish | Punkie`: right |
| 21:01.48 | buchkurish | Punkie`: but it does help a bit, like you said gnome pwn |
| 21:01.50 | Punkie` | so really, you need to learn how to play a rogue before race really comes into question |
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| 21:01.57 | buchkurish | Punkie`: look at my rogue please |
| 21:02.00 | buchkurish | Punkie`: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Twstdbosnian |
| 21:02.00 | jme | pvp isn't necessarily about getting away either |
| 21:02.04 | buchkurish | i knwo how to play rogue very good |
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| 21:02.09 | buchkurish | well i like to get away and not die |
| 21:02.14 | buchkurish | if that helps u guys understand me better |
| 21:02.21 | buchkurish | i like to kill 2 and when i cant take the 3rd |
| 21:02.25 | buchkurish | i like to get away without dieing |
| 21:02.28 | buchkurish | ... thats all |
| 21:02.32 | buchkurish | i know rogue very well |
| 21:02.46 | buchkurish | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Twstdbosnian |
| 21:02.51 | buchkurish | that should give you an idea if im good or no |
| 21:02.51 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44116 10Omen/ (5 files): |
| 21:02.51 | CIA-22 | Omen: (drycode, please test) |
| 21:02.51 | CIA-22 | - Made a fix to the target change delay handling |
| 21:02.51 | CIA-22 | - Added the aggro arrows back in (optional, see skin settings) |
| 21:02.51 | CIA-22 | - Made an optimization to aggro bar updates |
| 21:02.52 | CIA-22 | - Desaturated the arrows so that users may set their colors as desired. |
| 21:02.54 | buchkurish | look at my talent build |
| 21:03.07 | buchkurish | ..my build will tell u that i knwo what im doing |
| 21:03.12 | buchkurish | but i like gnome it is hard to target them |
| 21:03.17 | Punkie` | ... |
| 21:03.19 | buchkurish | and like Punkie` said, get away from snares |
| 21:03.22 | Chompers | ckknight: scroll areas need their coords displayed for perfect symmetry |
| 21:03.27 | buchkurish | Punkie`: what about lvl 70? gnome rogue |
| 21:03.32 | Antiarc|Work | If you're going to play alliance, dwarf or human are good choices for rogues. |
| 21:03.38 | ckknight | Chompers: hrm, okay |
| 21:03.48 | Antiarc|Work | Stoneform gets you out of poisons and bleeds, Perception makes you a rogue/druid killer. |
| 21:03.55 | ckknight | doing spell abbreviations now, though |
| 21:04.06 | Trancer | or a gnome |
| 21:04.06 | Antiarc|Work | Escape Artist is okay, but it's a whole lot less useful than for other classes, since rogues get vanish/imp sprint |
| 21:04.08 | Trancer | get out of the snares! |
| 21:04.14 | deltron | ...but you're still a dwarf |
| 21:04.19 | Punkie` | buchkurish: your character is a twink, yet you didn't know what a snare is? |
| 21:04.19 | Antiarc|Work | Escape Artist is -amazing- on warriors. |
| 21:04.24 | Esteth | WTB escape artist on my shaman |
| 21:04.29 | Trancer | and frostmages, those are rare though |
| 21:04.29 | buchkurish | Punkie`: farely new to wow |
| 21:04.32 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: not really, HELLO HAMSTRING SPAM |
| 21:04.32 | Chompers | ckknight: perhaps have shift+clicking corners allow you to drag the window out |
| 21:04.36 | buchkurish | Punkie`: less then 6 months, adn no ididnt know :( |
| 21:04.40 | Punkie` | buchkurish: did you purchase that character? |
| 21:04.43 | Chompers | so you don't have to use the waterfall config to change them |
| 21:04.44 | buchkurish | no |
| 21:04.47 | buchkurish | no way amigo |
| 21:04.48 | Trancer | frostnova hihi.. artist out and pewpew |
| 21:04.59 | ckknight | Chompers: drag out? |
| 21:05.03 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: If you're trying to power down a warrior, you have bigger problems than hamstring spam, and escape artist still won't fix 'em :) |
| 21:05.10 | Punkie` | of course :P |
| 21:05.18 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: On the other hand, stoneforming out of rend/deep wounds and then vanishing lets you get away from warriors cleanly. |
| 21:05.40 | Punkie` | yes, dwarfs are really the ultimate get out of jail free class past 66 :P |
| 21:05.45 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 21:06.00 | Chompers | ckknight: yeah, to change the length of each scroll |
| 21:06.08 | buchkurish | Punkie`: why you say dwarfs now? |
| 21:06.14 | buchkurish | Punkie`: what about shaman |
| 21:06.19 | Chompers | bigger box = longer scroll |
| 21:06.24 | buchkurish | Punkie`: i just leveld a shaman up to lvl 27 in less then five days |
| 21:06.24 | Punkie` | buchkurish: every class has their strength and weakness |
| 21:06.25 | sb | ckknight: is event-merging hard to implement? |
| 21:06.31 | buchkurish | Punkie`: you are right |
| 21:06.43 | buchkurish | Punkie`: to clearify again, i didnt buy that toon, twstdbosnain.. |
| 21:06.47 | kenlyric | why do you keep wanting us to be impressed with your ability to do things anyone else can do? |
| 21:06.49 | Punkie` | thats fine |
| 21:06.50 | buchkurish | Punkie`: i am bosnian .. twisted bosnian |
| 21:06.51 | buchkurish | =) |
| 21:07.07 | kenlyric | I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a secret spec. |
| 21:07.13 | buchkurish | Punkie`: thank you for all your help, some are really a***holes when i ask questions |
| 21:07.16 | jme | kenlyric: lies! |
| 21:07.26 | buchkurish | kenlyric: secret spec could be somethign like hybrid |
| 21:07.42 | sb | ckknight: some switch to each event source - when enabled it combines x events from that source... but i think its too expensive? (cpu/mem) |
| 21:07.44 | buchkurish | kenlyric: soemone that has a really really good hybrid spec made hah |
| 21:07.52 | buchkurish | =) dunno |
| 21:07.53 | Punkie` | a hybrid rogue spec isn't fantastic |
| 21:08.00 | kenlyric | I'm completely clueless when it comes to rogues, but it occurs to me that you need 0 skill to find another rogue and copy their spec. |
| 21:08.00 | deltron | someone had a really sweet spec idea that I don't think would work well for shaman |
| 21:08.01 | buchkurish | noope not really |
| 21:08.03 | buchkurish | heh |
| 21:08.06 | Punkie` | you miss a lot of key talents |
| 21:08.09 | buchkurish | unless ur 49 twink |
| 21:08.09 | Chompers | ckknight: Parrot-r44083\Triggers.lua:460: bad argument #1 to 'split' (string expected, got nil) |
| 21:08.20 | buchkurish | Punkie`: what do you think of shamans.. |
| 21:08.21 | buchkurish | brb |
| 21:08.27 | sb | that way to could say "okay, i want to have mana gain merged... and hots, nothing else" - but meh... no idea |
| 21:08.33 | ckknight | Chompers: don't use Waterfall, it's broken with passvalues |
| 21:08.45 | Punkie` | in pvp, shamans aren't brilliant as such, resto shamans are quite hard to kill though |
| 21:08.46 | Fisker- | lisa needs braces |
| 21:08.54 | kenlyric | dental plan |
| 21:08.55 | Chompers | while looking at the 'low health!' trigger with test scroll mode running |
| 21:08.57 | Chompers | oh right, sorry |
| 21:09.32 | deltron | Punkie`: I'm a resto shaman, I'm basically the guy that everyone tries to kill while my team kills the other team :) |
| 21:09.33 | ckknight | sb: throttling itself isn't too hard, especially with the system I set up |
| 21:09.58 | Fisker- | no meeeeeeee Punkie` |
| 21:09.58 | kenlyric | deltron: healers - the perfect decoy. |
| 21:09.59 | Punkie` | deltron: shamans are probably the best pvp healer if you ask me, even though many say paladins |
| 21:10.12 | deltron | lol |
| 21:10.15 | Punkie` | the ability to heal when stunned and silence is great :P |
| 21:10.17 | Esteth | I'm also a resto shaman, and unless you have some spellsteal-happy mage, purge happy shaman, etc... on you, you're near invinvible to most classes |
| 21:10.18 | Antiarc|Work | I'd say paladins win out of shaman thanks for Blessing of Protection |
| 21:10.20 | deltron | paladins are such a pain in the ass though |
| 21:10.27 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071907001009tt0.jpg |
| 21:10.42 | deltron | blessing of protection is finally getting nerfed :D |
| 21:10.45 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: purge, purge purge |
| 21:10.51 | kenlyric | full specced for decoy, I can last a really long time, even while healing other people. |
| 21:11.08 | ckknight | anyone else pissed about the comments in Gello's cascading menu thread? |
| 21:11.08 | deltron | not to mention I roll with 10K mana in my pvp-ish gear :) |
| 21:11.15 | ckknight | complaints of author laziness |
| 21:11.18 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: Yes, certainly, but it buys enough time to save a squishy. |
| 21:11.20 | ckknight | ...jesus |
| 21:11.21 | ckknight | fuck them |
| 21:11.24 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I'm rather irritated at it, too. |
| 21:11.25 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r44117 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: |
| 21:11.25 | CIA-22 | VisualHeal: |
| 21:11.25 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a subtle bug that would cause errors in the inquiry procedure |
| 21:11.26 | Saint-N | ckknight: but you ARE lazy |
| 21:11.31 | Xuerian | ckknight: Link? |
| 21:11.34 | Saint-N | what thread are we talking about? |
| 21:11.36 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: so does natures swiftness though :) |
| 21:11.37 | Antiarc|Work | Cide's comment really confused me |
| 21:11.40 | ckknight | Saint-N: it doesn't matter, I'm not paid for this. |
| 21:11.46 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: Felhunters eat NS :( |
| 21:11.52 | Punkie` | yeah, thats insane |
| 21:11.58 | Saint-N | ckknight: so those donations for snippets of code are what? |
| 21:12.00 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:12.03 | Punkie` | i hate that... completely skill-less |
| 21:12.05 | Antiarc|Work | "Don't be lazy and use Dewdrop, you should use a library to build a GUI instead" |
| 21:12.27 | Esteth | Antiarc: lolwtf |
| 21:12.48 | Saint-N | yup bacon all around! |
| 21:12.50 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071907001009tt0.jpg and http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071907001307qm4.jpg :) |
| 21:12.55 | Saint-N | its funny |
| 21:13.04 | ckknight | Saint-N: I don't get enough donations to make a living wage |
| 21:13.08 | ckknight | so the point is moot |
| 21:13.15 | Silviu- | But i think second is caused by first :) |
| 21:13.15 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: makes absolutely no sense |
| 21:13.16 | Saint-N | you want the recognitiion of making an addon but then get defensive when someone bitches? |
| 21:13.26 | ckknight | yea, basically. |
| 21:13.27 | Saint-N | im not too sure how that all works out |
| 21:13.35 | Mudkips | slow imageshack is slow |
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| 21:13.39 | Saint-N | just take it all with a grain of salt ;P |
| 21:13.42 | ckknight | they should bow to my feet, not the other way around |
| 21:13.44 | buchkurish | Punkie`: you say resto shamans are hard to kill, what about resto/elemental at 70 |
| 21:13.45 | kenlyric | well, if you were coding mods for the money, you probably wouldn't tell people to fuck off quite so often. |
| 21:13.47 | ckknight | nah, Cide's a fucknut |
| 21:14.00 | kenlyric | so really, it's a tradeoff. |
| 21:14.04 | buchkurish | Punkie`: what is briliant at 70 pvp |
| 21:14.08 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44118 10Omen/localization_enUS.lua: Omen: Fix a missing comma. |
| 21:14.09 | Saint-N | if you LI(KE doing it keep doing it but NEVER feel the need to defend anything you do to anyone NOR use the excuse that you're not paid to do it. |
| 21:14.14 | Esteth | buchkurish: as soon as you drop earth shield, you lose the survivability |
| 21:14.19 | Saint-N | its really quite simple |
| 21:14.34 | Antiarc|Work | Also, it blows my mind that people would say that Dewdrop menus aren't a GUI. |
| 21:14.43 | Antiarc|Work | Because they're, uh, graphical. And a user interface. |
| 21:14.43 | Saint-N | if somehow it becomes a "pay me and ill do it" excuse you really should just stop releaseing public ;P |
| 21:14.47 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:14.48 | Mudkips | Silviu-, What bartender style is that?? |
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| 21:14.53 | Silviu- | Vol |
| 21:14.54 | buchkurish | Esteth: im not an expert with shaman, i just started, but how could i lose it |
| 21:14.57 | ckknight | it may be a simplistic gui that might not be the best for the job |
| 21:14.58 | buchkurish | Esteth: by going resto? |
| 21:15.01 | ckknight | but it works in some cases |
| 21:15.09 | Punkie` | buchkurish: by getting hit |
| 21:15.13 | Antiarc|Work | What Gello seems to be missing is that Dewdrop is just a view |
| 21:15.23 | Antiarc|Work | And you can have multiple views for the AceOptions model |
| 21:15.24 | kenlyric | it's nott CLI, so it's GUI. |
| 21:15.36 | buchkurish | Punkie`: well rebuff |
| 21:15.39 | Antiarc|Work | See: Waterfall, Ace2Khaos |
| 21:15.41 | buchkurish | Punkie`: put it back on? heh |
| 21:15.50 | Punkie` | if you are stunned, it's not possible |
| 21:15.52 | Saint-N | just tell him that dew drop was making out of snippets from 100's of other addons and that he'd be better suited going off somewhere and dying than continueing the conversation ;P |
| 21:15.52 | Esteth | buchkurish: Sorry, didn't realise. It's a 41 point resto talent, so you can only put so many talents in elemental before you lose it, and it has 10 charges, so you have to refresh every so often |
| 21:15.55 | buchkurish | earth shield is good though |
| 21:16.07 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071907001623zt8.jpg |
| 21:16.07 | Silviu- | :( |
| 21:16.09 | buchkurish | i see |
| 21:16.10 | Antiarc|Work | AceOptions provides you, right now, with 4 option configuration views: CLI, Dewdrop, Waterfall, and Ace2Khaos. |
| 21:16.18 | sb | ckknight: oh and - config mode is amazing |
| 21:16.19 | buchkurish | what is briliant for pvp at lvl 70? |
| 21:16.24 | buchkurish | would gnome rogue be ok? |
| 21:16.39 | buchkurish | shamans really suck that much at 70- pvp |
| 21:16.44 | buchkurish | ? even if you learn it well |
| 21:16.48 | Saint-N | gnome warrior ;P |
| 21:16.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44119 10Omen/localization_enUS.lua: Omen: Copy/Paste Man strikes again! Who can stop this menace? |
| 21:17.00 | Saint-N | with noggenfogger shrink potions |
| 21:17.03 | Esteth | locks are FoTM, as are warriors. shaman's are pretty much healers at 70-pvp |
| 21:17.12 | buchkurish | i see |
| 21:17.15 | buchkurish | damn that sux :( |
| 21:17.16 | Antiarc|Work | Enhance shaman are worthless for PVP |
| 21:17.18 | buchkurish | i leveld it so fast |
| 21:17.25 | ckknight | sb: :-) |
| 21:17.25 | buchkurish | lvl 27 in just a matter of few days |
| 21:17.28 | Antiarc|Work | Elemental shaman are friggin' scary if well-geared. |
| 21:17.28 | buchkurish | now i gota start over ;( |
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| 21:17.39 | Saint-N | elem are the totem ones right? |
| 21:17.46 | Antiarc|Work | Chain Lightning up the ass |
| 21:17.50 | buchkurish | heh |
| 21:17.54 | sb | ckknight: merging stuff - possible somehow? ;o |
| 21:17.55 | NightHawkAtWork | Saint-N: er, all shaman drop totems? :P |
| 21:17.55 | buchkurish | Antiarc|Work: there is hopeeeeee |
| 21:17.56 | Antiarc|Work | Arguably the biggest burst damage you can get in the arena. |
| 21:17.59 | Saint-N | i love totem shaman |
| 21:18.06 | Saint-N | NightHawkAtWork: the ones with the gooder totems |
| 21:18.11 | Esteth | Antiarc: You can pump out some sick dps as an elemental shaman, but you have really not-good instants, so as soon as something starts hitting you, your dps stops |
| 21:18.12 | ckknight | sb: depends on the situation. Tell me exactly what you want merged |
| 21:18.15 | Saint-N | like the spell damage increase and such |
| 21:18.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Saint-N: with the exception of two totems, all shaman have the same ones |
| 21:18.30 | kenlyric | why are you starting over? |
| 21:18.31 | NightHawkAtWork | ToW/Mana Tide are theonly two talented totems |
| 21:18.35 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work u will hate me :P |
| 21:18.38 | Antiarc|Work | Esteth: Agreed, but that doesn't change the fact that they can put out some crazy burst in an arena match - often enough to tilt the match in your favor. |
| 21:18.38 | Saint-N | oh |
| 21:18.40 | Benumbed | 4 totems |
| 21:19.29 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: Show me! :P |
| 21:19.35 | Esteth | Antiarc: Very true, allthough in anything other than 5v5, i'd avoid them, seeing as they're likely to get focus-fired |
| 21:19.40 | sb | ckknight: mh - how do you merge dots/hots? |
| 21:19.42 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I agree |
| 21:19.50 | Antiarc|Work | An ele shaman in a 5-man is awesome though |
| 21:19.57 | Silviu- | now |
| 21:19.58 | Antiarc|Work | Insane burst, purges, and backup heals. |
| 21:20.13 | Saint-N | welp time for me to go get drunk and see they might be giants live |
| 21:20.16 | Esteth | Agreed :) |
| 21:20.17 | Saint-N | lates kiddies |
| 21:20.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Saint-N: tmbg live? good deal :) |
| 21:20.35 | Saint-N | yeah im stoked |
| 21:20.43 | ckknight | sb: on the backend, it copies the info table, then merges together any juxtaposed ones after the fact. |
| 21:20.55 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071907001945da8.jpg |
| 21:21.08 | ckknight | sb: on the frontend, you put throttle = { 'abilityName', 'throttleCount', sourceName = L["Multiple"] } |
| 21:21.37 | ckknight | first arg is what to throttle by, second is the count, any key => value situations are what things turn into in the multiple case. |
| 21:23.26 | sb | ckknight: mhh - so its possible with every ability? |
| 21:23.54 | sb | but okay - sucks if you only hit once and have your damage delayed by 2s |
| 21:24.11 | ckknight | sb: yea, basically. |
| 21:24.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44120 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 21:24.18 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - add abbreviation of spell names, on by default. Basically, |
| 21:24.18 | CIA-22 | it takes off the first character (UTF-8 aware) of each word and merges together. |
| 21:24.18 | CIA-22 | e.g. Gift of the Wild => GotW. If a colon appears, it is specifically shown, |
| 21:24.18 | CIA-22 | e.g. Shadow Word: Pain => SW:P. |
| 21:24.18 | buchkurish | Antiarc|Work: grrr you are twisting my mind! |
| 21:24.21 | ckknight | sb: well, actually, that doesn't happen |
| 21:24.28 | buchkurish | Antiarc|Work: now i want to level my shaman and do him elemental |
| 21:24.30 | ckknight | sb: it'll show as long as it hasn't shown in the past 2 seconds |
| 21:24.31 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44121 10Omen/ (OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added missing name/desc fields to arrows group |
| 21:24.31 | buchkurish | :( dunno what to do |
| 21:24.38 | Esteth | this is probably a noob mistake, but i'm getting an error about "Gwi:GetPhrase" is not a proper function. anyone mind taking a look? ttp://ace.pastey.net/71016 |
| 21:24.39 | Antiarc|Work | Do what you enjoy most |
| 21:24.40 | ckknight | so the first will always show |
| 21:24.43 | ckknight | then it'll show next in 2s |
| 21:24.50 | sb | perhaps threshold, e.g. for mana ticks - only if < 30, merge them |
| 21:24.53 | sb | and stuff |
| 21:24.54 | sb | mh |
| 21:25.04 | sb | so it merges only ticks with the same value? |
| 21:25.15 | ckknight | no, it will merge based on an identifier |
| 21:25.21 | ckknight | which is arbitrary |
| 21:26.02 | Mudkips | 4 paladins in your raid? wow |
| 21:26.20 | Mudkips | We're lucky to manage getting in 3 |
| 21:26.26 | Josh_Borke | Esteth: i'm pretty sure your get/set fields are incorrect |
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| 21:26.36 | Josh_Borke | i don't know the AceOptions format, so i don't know what's expected there |
| 21:26.42 | deltron | we usually have 1-3 paladins |
| 21:26.51 | deltron | I'm the only resto shaman |
| 21:27.13 | sb | Mudkips: we are lucky with pally 1 signup :p |
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| 21:28.41 | deltron | I want to make my paladin healer, and go elemental on my shaman :D |
| 21:29.56 | buchkurish | i still really dont know what to do |
| 21:30.02 | buchkurish | i want a lvl 70 pvp toon |
| 21:30.13 | buchkurish | should i keep working on shaman or change |
| 21:31.16 | deltron | elemental & resto are only viable shaman builds for pvp |
| 21:31.52 | buchkurish | thats what i thought |
| 21:31.58 | buchkurish | they can heal good with that healing focus |
| 21:32.19 | Esteth | healing focus + earth shield = uninterruptable |
| 21:32.50 | buchkurish | yes yes |
| 21:32.54 | buchkurish | now we are getting somewhere |
| 21:33.00 | buchkurish | i think ppl just dont know how to play them thats all |
| 21:33.02 | buchkurish | they have to be good |
| 21:33.07 | buchkurish | they havel ots of bursts of dmg |
| 21:33.08 | deltron | focused mind? |
| 21:33.09 | Benumbed | esteth no |
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| 21:33.17 | Benumbed | they dont stack like that |
| 21:33.20 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:33.22 | Benumbed | percent of percent |
| 21:33.25 | Esteth | really? |
| 21:33.29 | Benumbed | so 30% of whats left of the 70% |
| 21:33.40 | deltron | focused mind is getting a buff :D |
| 21:33.42 | Esteth | I allways assumed they were additive, but they're stacking :S |
| 21:33.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44122 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua): Omen: More drycode fixes |
| 21:34.04 | Benumbed | yeah only mages can get true 100% with their tier armor |
| 21:34.23 | Shirik | they used to be additive |
| 21:34.38 | Shirik | but it was stupid, both in design theory and result |
| 21:34.45 | Shirik | so they changed it to be multiplicative |
| 21:35.20 | pastamancer | isn't concentration aura additive? |
| 21:35.30 | Antiarc|Work | Pretty sure Conc is additive, yeah |
| 21:35.53 | Shirik | is that what you were talking about? |
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| 21:36.07 | Shirik | I shouldn't join conversations in the middle >.> |
| 21:36.13 | pastamancer | I wasn't talking about anything |
| 21:36.37 | Shirik | they |
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| 21:36.55 | Uhuru | hi |
| 21:36.56 | NightHawkAtWork | Shirik: they were talking about healing focus/earth shield specifically |
| 21:37.12 | Uhuru | vhaarr you there ? |
| 21:37.26 | NightHawkAtWork | And, last I knew, all pushback reduction abilitise stacked additively, but *shrug* i could be wrong |
| 21:37.36 | vhaarr | Uhuru: yes |
| 21:37.53 | deltron | there's lots of pushback |
| 21:37.58 | Shirik | that would make sense |
| 21:38.03 | deltron | but with earthshield shaman can get heals off |
| 21:38.25 | deltron | I don't know the last time I've been interrupted by straight up damage in a long time |
| 21:38.35 | Uhuru | vhaarr is this possible to add an option to closetgnome_switcher to re-equip precedent weapon when innervation is finished ? |
| 21:38.39 | Uhuru | pleas |
| 21:38.43 | Uhuru | e |
| 21:38.54 | vhaarr | Uhuru: not like it's designed now, no |
| 21:39.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44123 10Omen/ (OmenDisplay.lua OmenMenu.lua): Omen: Hack in default arrow colors; need to figure out why it isn't inheriting from the default skin setting. |
| 21:39.09 | Uhuru | oki thank's for answer :) |
| 21:39.38 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184794636567.gif |
| 21:41.00 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44124 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:41.00 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 21:41.00 | CIA-22 | -PartyLog: New module to display party member quest logs if they're using something that embeds Quixote. (This is disabled by default, *and* commented out in modules.xml at the moment.) |
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| 21:42.13 | Esteth | why is it that lua is making nil true for my if-statements? |
| 21:42.41 | Coruss | Fisker-: :O so people are accountable for what they say on forums now... |
| 21:42.50 | Kemayo | Esteth: I'd assume that you're doing something wrong. Pastey it. (http://ace.pastey.net) |
| 21:42.58 | Esteth | http://ace.pastey.net/71016?hi=0,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35 |
| 21:43.14 | Fisker- | Coruss :O what? |
| 21:43.18 | Fisker- | It's america |
| 21:43.21 | Fisker- | team world police |
| 21:43.45 | Coruss | just reading that link you sent |
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| 21:44.09 | Fisker- | been like that for a while |
| 21:44.34 | Coruss | eh, not that I had heard of, but then again, I live in canuck-land |
| 21:44.37 | CIA-22 | 03pneumatus * r44125 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot_Data.lua: |
| 21:44.37 | CIA-22 | ClassLoot: |
| 21:44.38 | CIA-22 | - Item Update |
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| 21:45.05 | kaiden | Can dogtag be used to change the font? was looking for it's wiki page but couldn't find one |
| 21:45.14 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Hahahaha... |
| 21:45.15 | Fisker- | yeah canadians are probably not prone to arrest people for posting fiction |
| 21:45.22 | Xuerian | Fisker-: I guess the fbi agents watching pedobear picked up on that. |
| 21:45.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
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| 21:46.03 | Kemayo | Esteth: Nothing there looks obviously incorrect. What's happening that you don't think should? |
| 21:47.04 | Coruss | Fisker-: ya our police aren't prone to arresting people for much of anything it seems... altho that's not all bad |
| 21:47.07 | Xuerian | kaiden: Can't change fonts mid fontstring |
| 21:47.11 | Fisker- | pedobear is a great character |
| 21:47.12 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-138-93-198.range86-138.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:47.33 | Kemayo | Esteth: Actually, I take that back, the get and set in your aceoptions table shouldn't (I think) start with "Gwi:". |
| 21:47.39 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 21:47.39 | Fisker- | Our government just passed the most retarded rule |
| 21:47.40 | Xuerian | kaiden: Would be cool if you could set the font of the fontstring, though. |
| 21:47.46 | Josh_Borke | Esteth: link your code again please |
| 21:47.59 | Fisker- | Anything will require a blood sample now |
| 21:48.00 | Kemayo | Josh_Borke: http://ace.pastey.net/71016?hi=0,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35 |
| 21:48.02 | Esteth | Kemayo: gaaaagh. i feel stupid now. it's late, and i didn't think. I've capitalised the I in "invite me", and was testing without the capital letter >_< |
| 21:48.05 | Fisker- | And they will analyze the blood for drugs |
| 21:48.11 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Whaaat? |
| 21:48.12 | Fisker- | and then they will act accordingly |
| 21:48.14 | kaiden | Xuerian, ah ok :) thanks |
| 21:48.20 | Xuerian | Fisker-: What country and what "anything" |
| 21:48.22 | Kemayo | Esteth: That would do it, yes. :) |
| 21:48.27 | Fisker- | Denmark |
| 21:48.39 | Fisker- | and during rutine road checkpoints etc. |
| 21:48.39 | Esteth | Kemayo: i've fixed the "Gwi:" in the acessors, that's a slightly old pastie :P |
| 21:48.40 | Xuerian | Fisker-: dna database much |
| 21:48.44 | Fisker- | or just raids |
| 21:48.55 | Esteth | Kemayo: Thanks for the help anyways :) |
| 21:49.15 | Fisker- | Well apparently many drugs leave a permanent mark in your bloodstream |
| 21:49.20 | *** part/#wowace snirks (n=snorks@11.80-202-251.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:49.23 | Fisker- | So i want to see how that pans out |
| 21:49.31 | snorks | exit |
| 21:49.32 | snorks | exit |
| 21:49.34 | snorks | exi |
| 21:49.36 | snorks | oh |
| 21:49.41 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 21:49.41 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r44126 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: Fixed UnHook to Unhook. |
| 21:50.00 | Fisker- | i.e. if i got caught with drugs in my blood i would get 2 "cuts" in the drivers license (3 cuts = you lose it) |
| 21:50.09 | Fisker- | But if i still test positive for drugs the week after |
| 21:50.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk, I just came across SilverSide |
| 21:50.15 | Fisker- | then i'm getting nailed on the same offense |
| 21:50.16 | Fisker- | twice |
| 21:50.27 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Fun |
| 21:50.29 | Chompers | then nailed in prison |
| 21:50.37 | Kirkburn|afk | >< |
| 21:50.38 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 21:51.47 | Josh_Borke | Esteth: the best idea is to try and figure out what msg and self.keyPhrase are, so just dump them out any time you get the event |
| 21:53.53 | Esteth | Yeah, I figured it out in the end, as noted above. I was being an idiot and testing with an uncapitalized whisper, which doesnt match the capitalised one in the file. I feel like an idiot >_> |
| 21:54.19 | Josh_Borke | oh, sorry, crashed, didn't see that |
| 21:54.48 | Esteth | no need to be sorry :) |
| 21:57.43 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44127 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: |
| 21:57.43 | CIA-22 | CandyBar: All methods that accepted paintchips tokens now also accept RGB pairs, |
| 21:57.43 | CIA-22 | like :SetBackgroundColor("barid", "white", 0.5) -> :SetBackgroundColor("barid", |
| 21:57.43 | CIA-22 | 1, 1, 1, 0.5). Probably needs some cleanup, not quite sure I got the gradient |
| 21:57.43 | CIA-22 | stuff right either. CandyBar-2.0 no longer requires PaintChips-2.0 as long as |
| 21:57.44 | CIA-22 | you use RGB values. |
| 21:58.53 | kaiden | Anyone remember how to reverse the gradient on an eePanel off the top of their head |
| 21:59.15 | CIA-22 | 03sbu * r44128 10Parrot/Triggers.lua: Parrot: added 'Surge of Light' (priest talent) trigger - disabled by default |
| 21:59.20 | kaiden | n/m i remember |
| 21:59.37 | kebinusan | heh, http://theultimatespoiler.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:00.17 | Mudkips | I lol'd |
| 22:00.43 | NightHawkAtWork | notepad++ doesn't support open from/save to ftp/sftp, does it? |
| 22:01.08 | Fisker- | die |
| 22:01.14 | Fisker- | oh and nightr |
| 22:01.32 | Coruss | kebinusan: lol |
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| 22:03.09 | Neebler | ckknight: missing Outline in http://wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags |
| 22:03.25 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 22:03.27 | Esteth | Where would you guys advise hosting an addon? Getting wowace SVN access seems time consuming and overblown for the little mod i'm making for someone in the suggestions forum :S |
| 22:03.38 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44129 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (Bars.lua Colors.lua Messages.lua): |
| 22:03.38 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 22:03.38 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.38 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.41 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.44 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.55 | Josh_Borke | Esteth: i like wowinterface |
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| 22:04.28 | vhaarr | Esteth: if you call writing a e-mail to the SVN request box asking for access "time consuming", then by all means, get it hosted somewhere else |
| 22:04.41 | vhaarr | but you won't find any other place that gives you as much as wowace.com does for WoW addons |
| 22:04.45 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r44130 10Omen/localization_deDE.lua: Omen: deDE Update |
| 22:04.53 | vhaarr | now go test BigWigs |
| 22:04.56 | vhaarr | I probably broke it |
| 22:04.57 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: you mean the automagic zip script? |
| 22:05.01 | Shirik | ha |
| 22:05.30 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke: yes, and svn externals, ready access to lots of libraries, wiki integration, etc |
| 22:05.39 | vhaarr | and of course, trolls here that smack you for using libraries |
| 22:05.42 | NightHawkAtWork | Esteth: as vhaarr noted wowace svn acces is mind-numbingly simple. But if you must have it elsewhere, googlecode is always a good option |
| 22:06.34 | Josh_Borke | svn externals can be set on any svn repository (ala googlecode), access to the libraries comes from just using them since they've been released. googlecode has a wiki and a place to host files |
| 22:06.51 | vhaarr | Esteth: it also gives incentive to start poking around in the metric TON of other addons we host, and encourages collaboration, and also prolongs the life of your addon beyond your WoW time, provided your addon is remotely useful |
| 22:07.20 | Esteth | Vhaarr: Oh, I looked at the wiki page for SVN rules, and it appeared to me earlier that i had to do lots and lots of stuff. Looking over it again, you're right, i simply have to sign a wiki page and send an e-mail |
| 22:07.21 | vhaarr | since, you know, more than ONE developer has access to the repo |
| 22:07.38 | vhaarr | which is, you know, kind of the POINT of a public repo |
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| 22:08.43 | NightHawkAtWork | ^^ |
| 22:09.08 | Shirik | the same is true for googlecode |
| 22:09.08 | Shirik | but I'm not getting into this argument |
| 22:09.08 | vhaarr | I'm not arguing either |
| 22:09.08 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke is |
| 22:09.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Shirik: yeah, but there's more "startup overhead" involved with googlecode, even if it comes out the same in the end |
| 22:09.19 | Josh_Borke | who said i was arguing? |
| 22:09.30 | Josh_Borke | did i seem like i was being aggressive? |
| 22:09.45 | vhaarr | hm, no, sorry, you weren't aggressive |
| 22:09.56 | Shirik | ow |
| 22:10.03 | durcyn | calm down, Josh_Borke |
| 22:10.04 | Shirik | 10 messages at once >< |
| 22:10.21 | Josh_Borke | i guess i shouldn't say aggressive, i should say argumentative, since no one mentioned aggressive. my mistake |
| 22:10.34 | Shirik | argumentative isn't a bad thing |
| 22:10.45 | vhaarr | I didn't say it was |
| 22:10.52 | Josh_Borke | yes but it's not always productive |
| 22:10.56 | vhaarr | I just said I wasn't arguing, like Shirik |
| 22:10.58 | Shirik | Josh_Borke implied it was :P |
| 22:11.10 | vhaarr | but I'm getting the feeling that we're all arguing now |
| 22:11.11 | vhaarr | actually |
| 22:11.20 | Josh_Borke | oo, oo, i know how to end it! |
| 22:11.22 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: you're dumb! |
| 22:11.27 | Shirik | no u! |
| 22:11.27 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: your mom! |
| 22:11.33 | Josh_Borke | PANTS! |
| 22:11.42 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 22:11.49 | NightHawkAtWork | your mom's pants. |
| 22:11.53 | vhaarr | pix |
| 22:12.18 | Josh_Borke | who's? mine or rabbit's? |
| 22:12.23 | vhaarr | has anyone done any performance testing on |unpack|? |
| 22:12.43 | Josh_Borke | vs? |
| 22:13.09 | vhaarr | well, I'm thinking in the sense where you have a method that could return an arbitrary amount of numbers |
| 22:13.12 | vhaarr | say 3-6 |
| 22:13.31 | vhaarr | so it would be unpack vs storing them in individual variables and checking how many needed to be returned every time |
| 22:13.38 | vhaarr | vs a preprocessed table that was unpack'ed |
| 22:13.42 | Shirik | ew |
| 22:13.44 | Shirik | don't do that |
| 22:13.48 | vhaarr | do what? |
| 22:13.55 | Shirik | use a table and unpack it |
| 22:14.01 | vhaarr | why? |
| 22:14.18 | Shirik | you get zero benefit |
| 22:14.20 | Josh_Borke | guffaw freebsd pisses me off |
| 22:14.27 | Shirik | you end up eating up more memory AND use more processing time |
| 22:14.58 | vhaarr | Shirik: it's a tradeoff vs. code readability |
| 22:15.19 | Shirik | assuming you're not talking about an inordinate amount of return values, I doubt it can be that bad |
| 22:15.33 | vhaarr | well it's 3-4 x3, actually |
| 22:15.38 | vhaarr | so 9-12 |
| 22:16.07 | Shirik | hrm, is unpack a C function? |
| 22:16.11 | vhaarr | it just looks a lot better with unpack :P |
| 22:16.21 | vhaarr | but if it has a lot of overhead, then I'll remove it |
| 22:16.28 | Shirik | if it's written the way I think, if would be very fast |
| 22:16.30 | Shirik | (in C) |
| 22:16.52 | Shirik | if it's written in Lua or stupidly, it can be extremely slow |
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| 22:17.19 | Shirik | let's see if I can find the code |
| 22:17.22 | Esteth | rebooting. back in 5 |
| 22:17.33 | vhaarr | "Although the predefined unpack is written in C, we could write it also in Lua, using recursion: " |
| 22:17.36 | vhaarr | Shirik: ^ |
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| 22:17.43 | vhaarr | http://www.lua.org/pil/5.1.html |
| 22:17.55 | Shirik | yeah "we could also write it in Lua" and have it very slow =P |
| 22:17.59 | Shirik | well that's good |
| 22:18.01 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 22:18.09 | Shirik | now the question is where the code is defined |
| 22:18.10 | vhaarr | would be nice to see the code for it though |
| 22:20.31 | vhaarr | http://www.lua.org/source/5.1/lbaselib.c.html |
| 22:20.34 | Shirik | gah 200b |
| 22:20.36 | Shirik | kb* |
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| 22:20.43 | Shirik | I was trying to find that >.> |
| 22:20.48 | Shirik | I lost the link :( |
| 22:20.58 | ZoidX | the lua code isn't pretty |
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| 22:21.13 | Shirik | if it's smart, it's just an iteration of lua_pushvalue |
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| 22:21.19 | Shirik | which will actually be decently fast |
| 22:22.39 | Shirik | ah they used rawget |
| 22:22.43 | Shirik | same difference, just avoiding metatables |
| 22:23.04 | Shirik | yeah that unpack function would be decently fast, actually |
| 22:23.12 | Shirik | I still disagree with using it, but yeah |
| 22:24.38 | vhaarr | I'm more concerned about readability in this case, after all it's 9-12 returns |
| 22:26.47 | CIA-22 | 03darchon * r44131 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Make an exception for koKR |
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| 22:28.34 | Morghus | Heya Skosiris :) |
| 22:28.39 | Skosiris | Hey |
| 22:28.55 | Morghus | If you're the wowhead man, huge kudos to you guys :D |
| 22:29.04 | Skosiris | I am, thanks :) |
| 22:29.40 | Mudkips | O SHI-- |
| 22:30.01 | vhaarr | I didn't know we had wowhead admins hanging out here, that's nice |
| 22:30.02 | kaiden | I'd like to solve Pat |
| 22:30.06 | kaiden | O SHITE |
| 22:31.34 | buchkurish | Esteth: mind if i whisper to you? |
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| 22:32.02 | Esteth | buchkurish: not at all :) |
| 22:32.04 | buchkurish | wowhead.com is good |
| 22:32.07 | buchkurish | hehe thanks Esteth =) |
| 22:32.17 | Morghus | I visit 5 sites for WoW-stuff: wowhead, mmo-champ, EJ, wowace and TFR.net *grins* because those sites rock :) |
| 22:32.40 | Shirik | whisper sweet nothings |
| 22:32.42 | Esteth | Morghus: not www.worldofwarcraft.com ? =P |
| 22:33.16 | buchkurish | u onlyh need to visit one |
| 22:33.19 | buchkurish | and that is wowhead.com |
| 22:33.22 | Morghus | Esteth: Being EU, no way in hell. Usually don't come within a mile of wow-eu :P |
| 22:33.31 | Morghus | *wow-eu either |
| 22:34.09 | Skosiris | :D |
| 22:34.14 | Skosiris | is Mikk around? |
| 22:34.23 | Esteth | Morgus: I'm EU too, and i tend to read the wow-eu forums regularly, since i'm on holidays at the moment, and our realm's horde population doesn't seem to like instancing during the day on weekdays |
| 22:35.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44132 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added :SetTPSSamples(samples) |
| 22:35.29 | Morghus | Skosiris: Might want to educate the Blizz web-developers on how to make a non-clunky site ;D |
| 22:35.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:36.35 | Morghus | Esteth: The last time I visited the official WoW-forums I had to wade through 10 pages of crap before I found the thread I wanted, that contained actual and useful information. A bit discouraging for future visits :P |
| 22:36.45 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44133 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Clean up excess samples after a sample size reduction. |
| 22:37.38 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44134 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: |
| 22:37.38 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: Bars: |
| 22:37.38 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.38 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.38 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:38.03 | Kjellviz | hi there |
| 22:38.13 | Morghus | Heya =) |
| 22:38.16 | Kjellviz | ive just reinstalled all my addons |
| 22:38.32 | Skosiris | Morghus: the blizz devs? it's not Blizzard who bought the site.. :P |
| 22:38.43 | Kjellviz | and im trying to get my old mining nodes back on cartographer |
| 22:39.00 | Kjellviz | (i took backup of the old interface and wtf folders) |
| 22:39.21 | Kjellviz | where can i find the database ? |
| 22:39.57 | Morghus | Skosiris: haha. Not thinking about the purchase ;) Was more thinking about you sending a mail giving a minor tutorial in "How we made our site good, and why your site sucks" :P |
| 22:40.56 | Mudkips | I must find /facepalm man, HALP |
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| 22:41.28 | Esteth_ | Back. Previous IRC client appeared to be broken |
| 22:41.35 | Skosiris | lol |
| 22:42.07 | Esteth_ | I think someone wanted to whisper me. If they still want to, they can try again now |
| 22:42.51 | Smoere | Kjellviz: WTF\Account\[youraccountname]\SavedVariables\Cartographer_Mining.lua |
| 22:43.01 | AC|Carnivean | Does anyone know an addon that disables the spellbook and the Alt+Z combination (for blocking out the interface) while you are in combat? |
| 22:43.33 | Josh_Borke | no addon that i know of does that |
| 22:43.35 | Josh_Borke | why do you want that? |
| 22:43.48 | Morghus | Kjellviz: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php -> Search -> |
| 22:44.18 | Morghus | Then search for the mining node thingie ther.e Datamined from wowhead, and is rather complete :) |
| 22:44.27 | Kjellviz | Morghus: already done that |
| 22:44.36 | Kjellviz | Smoere: ive tried putting it there |
| 22:44.38 | Morghus | Allright, sorry then |
| 22:44.46 | Kjellviz | that is |
| 22:44.49 | Kjellviz | i found it now |
| 22:44.50 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44135 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added a second return to :GetTPS(), which returns the total TPS for the fight. |
| 22:44.54 | Kjellviz | and put it there |
| 22:44.59 | Kjellviz | but its not showing =0 |
| 22:45.09 | AC|Carnivean | because I have such an addon installed, it is just a secondary function but it is quite annoying because I want to fraps some of our bossfights and hae some of the footage without my UI showing.... |
| 22:45.12 | Antiarc|Work | AC|Carnivean: That's a tainting issue, not an intentional lockout |
| 22:45.35 | Smoere | Kjellviz: well, that's were it belongs^^ |
| 22:45.41 | Antiarc|Work | Sounds like something is tainting UIParent |
| 22:45.51 | Morghus | Kjellviz: Do you quit the game, place the .lua file, and then start the game again? |
| 22:45.51 | Kjellviz | bit confused about the new cartographer though, the old one had the mining module directly under interface/addons/cartographer_mining |
| 22:45.52 | Smoere | Kjellviz: did you reload your ui after you've put it there? |
| 22:46.05 | Kjellviz | Smoere: i started wow after putting it there |
| 22:46.23 | Morghus | Odd. |
| 22:46.26 | Kjellviz | but the new has the mining module underneath the cartographer folder |
| 22:46.37 | Kjellviz | to me it seems like the module is not running at all |
| 22:46.44 | Smoere | Kjellviz: ahhh. did you quit wow before or after copying? |
| 22:47.09 | Kjellviz | i quit wow, copied the file and restarted wow |
| 22:47.55 | Smoere | Kjellviz: strange-o. does mining show in the cartographer menu? |
| 22:47.56 | Kjellviz | are the mining module supposed to be inside the cartographer folder ? |
| 22:48.06 | AC|Carnivean | Antiarc|Work: Any ideas which addon does something like that or how I could work around it? |
| 22:48.10 | Kjellviz | no thats whats making me think its not loaded |
| 22:48.21 | Kjellviz | i was thinking there was a mining menu there |
| 22:48.26 | Kjellviz | but its not there anymore |
| 22:48.38 | Kjellviz | wondered if that was due to the new addon and folder system lol |
| 22:48.42 | Smoere | Kjellviz: well, then it aint loaded. lemem check something |
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| 22:48.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44136 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added :GetTPSSamples() |
| 22:49.15 | Antiarc|Work | AC|Carnivean: No idea, but you'll need to find and disable it to get that functionality back. |
| 22:49.36 | Antiarc|Work | You'll need to just disable mods till it starts working |
| 22:49.44 | Kjellviz | wonder if im sposed to move those folders out into the /addons/ folder |
| 22:49.51 | Kjellviz | for the modules i want to use |
| 22:50.00 | AC|Carnivean | Yes well thanks for the helps, looks like a have a task to finish :). |
| 22:51.37 | Smoere | Kjellviz: oook. cartographer itself doesn't have the mining included. so either something went wrong during unpacking or you downloaded a strange release. did you download it from files.wowace.com/using the WAU? |
| 22:52.12 | Kjellviz | im 99% sure it was from files.wowace.com |
| 22:52.31 | Kjellviz | and it has a folder called cartographer_mining in it |
| 22:52.59 | Kjellviz | its just that the "url" is interface/addons/cartographer/cartographer_mining/ |
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| 22:53.29 | Matrix110 | Did you update with WAU? |
| 22:53.49 | Kjellviz | hmmm think i did actually |
| 22:53.57 | Matrix110 | because till some point Carthographer_Mining was part of Carthographer but now it isnt anymore |
| 22:54.02 | Diao | hmm |
| 22:54.12 | Kjellviz | aha |
| 22:54.14 | Smoere | Kjellviz: the only possibility i could think of now is that you downloaded Package_Cartographer |
| 22:54.16 | Matrix110 | but WAU keeps updating it but its a "own" addon now |
| 22:54.23 | Kjellviz | Smoere: thats correct |
| 22:54.39 | Kjellviz | Smoere: i downloaded a pack with both mining and herbalism |
| 22:54.40 | Smoere | Kjellviz: problem found and problem solved^^ |
| 22:54.41 | Kjellviz | and fishing |
| 22:54.52 | Kjellviz | Smoere: ok, that dont work any longer ? |
| 22:54.56 | Diao | ckknight I'm 99.9% sure it is cowtip that is causing the error with tooltips when i mouseover unitframes and not blizzard. I just tested by disabling all addons, tooltips worked fine. I then downloaded Tinytip and tested and it worked fine. Then I disabled all addons except Cowtip and Ace2 and the tooltip vanished again |
| 22:55.28 | Kjellviz | ohh btw question on tinytip |
| 22:55.46 | Kjellviz | didi they remove the target of target function in tinytip or am i blind ? |
| 22:55.58 | Diao | i think it's in tinytip extras |
| 22:56.04 | Smoere | Kjellviz: correct, as the .toc doesnt support some of the modules any longer |
| 22:56.12 | BankZZ | Is there a way to get prat to default to guild chat? |
| 22:56.16 | BankZZ | rather than say? |
| 22:56.47 | Kjellviz | ok ill download the whole thingy again |
| 22:56.49 | Kjellviz | thanks |
| 22:57.22 | Smoere | Kjellviz: just move all Cartographer_* folders to your addons folder, or delet it and download the individual modules |
| 22:57.38 | Smoere | Kjellviz: you'r ewelcome |
| 22:57.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: what error? |
| 22:58.21 | Diao | uh |
| 22:58.24 | Diao | when a player is targetted |
| 22:58.49 | Diao | and i mouseover any unitframe (with pitbull) it shows the "player options" tooltip instead of the actual unit tooltip. If I turn off pitbull, it just doesn't show a tooltip at all |
| 22:58.54 | Diao | er |
| 22:58.56 | Diao | player or pet |
| 22:59.01 | Diao | doesn't happen with regular npcs |
| 22:59.05 | NightHawkAtWork | ahh |
| 22:59.19 | Kjellviz | humm previously i had all FPs on cartographer, is that mod all gone ? |
| 22:59.26 | Kjellviz | cant find a mod spesific for that :P |
| 22:59.30 | NightHawkAtWork | It's not (strictly) cowtip related, as I get that too,and I don't use cowtip :P |
| 22:59.36 | Diao | it's weird |
| 22:59.40 | Diao | if i use tinytip or default blizzard tooltip |
| 22:59.42 | Diao | i have no trouble at all |
| 22:59.46 | Diao | but as soon as cowtip is on |
| 22:59.52 | Antiarc|Work | Autodoc is love. |
| 22:59.54 | Diao | it happens |
| 23:00.08 | Smoere | Kjellviz: not realy, that is for example done by InFlight |
| 23:00.11 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: autodoc? like javadoc or whatnot? :P |
| 23:00.24 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: The auto-documenting system we whipped up for the wowace wiki |
| 23:00.31 | Josh_Borke | bye bye |
| 23:00.37 | Kjellviz | aha |
| 23:00.37 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Threat-1.0 |
| 23:00.44 | Antiarc|Work | I added two methods and changed the return values on a third |
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| 23:00.44 | Kjellviz | i had inflight before |
| 23:00.48 | Kjellviz | so thats the reason |
| 23:00.51 | Kjellviz | thanks a million! |
| 23:00.54 | Antiarc|Work | And it picked them up :D |
| 23:00.56 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: *shrug* well i can't really help, i was just curios, because asI said, I get that without cowtip |
| 23:01.16 | Diao | it's rather annoying because cowtip is pretty much the perfect tooltip addon, except that I can't see a tooltip whenever I have a player targetted (pvp or healing someone) :( |
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| 23:02.09 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: Yeah, that's more or less a rudimentary JavaDoc-type thing :) |
| 23:02.53 | Diao | the weird thing is |
| 23:02.55 | Diao | if i target myself |
| 23:03.00 | Diao | there's no problem with the tooltips o-o |
| 23:03.03 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: and yeah. it is teh sex. I've used similar in php projects. |
| 23:03.05 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r44137 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: |
| 23:03.05 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 23:03.05 | CIA-22 | - dropped the "disabled while resting" restriction, |
| 23:03.05 | CIA-22 | - fixed error with buff from items, |
| 23:03.05 | CIA-22 | - another attempt to fix weapon buffs. |
| 23:04.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Hm, any good windows text editor that does sftp open/save? |
| 23:04.31 | Kjellviz | its working nicely now, thanks =) |
| 23:05.53 | Coruss | sftp? |
| 23:06.25 | NightHawkAtWork | google it. |
| 23:07.21 | NightHawkAtWork | :) |
| 23:07.28 | Smoere | NightHawkAtWork: for what do you need one? developing in an unix environment? |
| 23:07.41 | Maldivia | Coruss: ultraedit supports sftp open/save |
| 23:08.10 | Maldivia | hmm, that was for NightHawk :) |
| 23:08.16 | Coruss | Maldivia: cool, but NightHawkAtWork asked ^^ |
| 23:08.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Smoere: yeah, more or less. Want to do some php stuff from work, but I cant be arsed to install php, so I'd rather just edit it directly on my server, except without using vi via putty :P |
| 23:08.39 | Smoere | NightHawkAtWork: then use emacs ;P |
| 23:08.56 | NightHawkAtWork | I don't know emacs well enough to use it. |
| 23:09.08 | Esteth_ | use pico/nano via putty :D |
| 23:09.21 | NightHawkAtWork | I'd rather not use any console based editor :P |
| 23:09.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Maldivia: ultraedit costs money. >< :P |
| 23:09.46 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r44138 10AtlasLoot/ (12 files in 5 dirs): |
| 23:09.46 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 23:09.46 | CIA-22 | - Original instances update |
| 23:09.56 | Coruss | aah ya, was checking into my personal freebie editor, but doesn't say anything about sftp open/save in features |
| 23:10.02 | Maldivia | NightHawk: nothing in the world is free... |
| 23:10.09 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r44139 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 23:10.09 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 23:10.09 | CIA-22 | - Original instances update |
| 23:10.11 | NightHawkAtWork | Maldivia: TextWrangler is free. :P |
| 23:10.56 | Esteth_ | jEdit with the FTP plugin would work |
| 23:10.56 | AC|Carnivean | Is there a Ace2 alternative for Outfitter, mainly for auto-switching weapons while I use Evocation? |
| 23:11.12 | Smoere | NightHawkAtWork: iirc does Eclipse support sftp, at least via plugin |
| 23:12.41 | Coruss | AC|Carnivean: Wardrobe2 maybe? |
| 23:12.51 | Kjellviz | AC|Carnivean: no idea wether its ace2 or note (its ace at least), but ClosetGnome maybe ? |
| 23:13.21 | Esteth_ | AC | Carnivean: ClosetGnome does most of the stuff outfitter does, you'd probably have to get a plugin made for it to be evocation-aware |
| 23:13.32 | vhaarr | CG_Switcher can do evocation |
| 23:13.37 | Kemayo | NightHawkAtWork: You could combine most anything with WinSCP, I think. http://winscp.net/eng/index.php |
| 23:17.49 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r44140 10FuriousRaid/FuriousRaid.lua: |
| 23:17.49 | CIA-22 | FuriousRaid: |
| 23:17.49 | CIA-22 | - fixed a bug that broke the whole loot system :P |
| 23:19.10 | Esteth_ | Anyone know why the keyPhrase isn't persisting between sessions? AceDB looks like it's set up right, and i've looked at a number of examples on the wiki. I can't see anything wrong with my code :S http://pastebin.com/d180cafea |
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| 23:21.38 | buchkurish | hehe pico nano =) |
| 23:21.46 | buchkurish | who needs help with linux again? =) |
| 23:21.58 | Kemayo | Esteth_: Is GuildWhisperInviteDB registered as a savedvariable in your TOC? |
| 23:22.24 | Esteth_ | i have a "## SavedVariables: GuildWhipserInviteDB" line in my TOC |
| 23:22.28 | buchkurish | who says yes to Shaman Elemental/Resto ? |
| 23:22.41 | buchkurish | ..me and my shaman again hahah |
| 23:22.49 | Kemayo | Have you restarted WoW since putting it there? Some things don't get picked up from the TOC until you do so, and I don't know whether that's one of them. |
| 23:22.56 | Kjellviz | have pitbull removed portraits ? |
| 23:23.04 | Esteth_ | I think i have, i'll try again |
| 23:23.05 | Kjellviz | cant find the option to turn it on >< |
| 23:23.08 | Esteth_ | Kj: no |
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| 23:23.27 | Kjellviz | hmmmk |
| 23:23.32 | Kemayo | Kjellviz: It's a module that's disabled by default. There should be a list of these disabled things somewhere. |
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| 23:24.46 | Kjellviz | ye, "extra units" |
| 23:24.51 | Kjellviz | and its not on that list >< |
| 23:25.25 | Kjellviz | forget it was under global |
| 23:25.33 | Kjellviz | >< |
| 23:25.40 | Esteth_ | Kemayo: Having restarted WoW, still no luck |
| 23:25.43 | buchkurish | is there another wow chanel? |
| 23:25.45 | buchkurish | on here |
| 23:26.07 | Kemayo | buchkurish: there's #wowi-lounge as well. Probably others, too. |
| 23:26.14 | buchkurish | Kemayo: thank you =) |
| 23:26.41 | buchkurish | grr im baned :( wtf |
| 23:26.44 | buchkurish | that sux |
| 23:27.00 | buchkurish | well maybe Kemayo can help hihi =) |
| 23:27.05 | buchkurish | im in jeopardy |
| 23:27.51 | Undine | ~arkinventory |
| 23:28.07 | Undine | hmm, my purl fu is somewhat lacking |
| 23:28.30 | Kemayo | Esteth_: I must admit that I am confused by your problem, then. Is a file called <youraddonname>.lua being created in WTF/SavedVariables? |
| 23:28.56 | Chompers | does anyone know if Recount syncs with other users? |
| 23:29.40 | Neebler | hmm I editing EavesDrop.xml and changed "GameFontNormal" to "Interface\Addons\SharedMedia\fonts\myfont.ttf" yet it doesn't work. |
| 23:29.45 | Esteth_ | Kemayo: yes, and it contains one empty line, followed by another line with "GuildWhipserInviteDB = nil" on it |
| 23:29.47 | NeoTron | so we have this retri paladin that feels he'll be awesome in raids |
| 23:29.47 | Neebler | do I need to use two \\'s instead of 1? |
| 23:30.00 | NeoTron | and points out this one gruul fight on WWS that had a retri-pally... that made 14th on DPS |
| 23:30.05 | Kemayo | Esteth_: I have noticed your problem. :D |
| 23:30.16 | Esteth_ | :D |
| 23:30.20 | NeoTron | but that paladin had wpn from archimonde and overall tons of awesome gear.. and made 14th.. :-P |
| 23:30.23 | Kaydeethree | Neebler, yes. \ is an escape. to get a real "\", you've gotta use \\ |
| 23:30.28 | Kemayo | Esteth_: You've misspelt your SV in the TOC. You wrote "Whipser". |
| 23:30.31 | Neebler | thanks so much |
| 23:31.00 | Esteth_ | Kemayo. That's my second stupid mistake of the day :P Thanks a lot! <3 |
| 23:32.15 | Kemayo | Esteth_: I recall making far, far more boneheaded mistakes back when I started writing addons. (And bugging ckknight about it extensively, I think.) |
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| 23:35.22 | BlackJesus | drats, name is owned by someone else |
| 23:35.24 | Esteth_ | hehe, I suppose everyone makes stupid mistakes. I hate feeling like a leech though :( hopefully i'll start releasing an addon or two sometime soon, and give something back to the community :) |
| 23:35.59 | Kemayo | buchkurish: I recommend using "/who #wowi-lounge" to find out who the ops are in there, then asking one of them why you're banned. (You can also use "/bans #wowi-lounge" to find out who set the ban and how long ago, at least in my IRC client.) |
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| 23:38.08 | aen` | what does pitbull_prat add? |
| 23:38.09 | Neebler | [Kemayo VERSION reply]: irssi v0.8.11 - running on Linux i686 |
| 23:38.27 | Kody- | http://my.curse.com/neosliver/characters/details/3568/raids/details/1/ first cool thing in the Curse db is finally implemented :O |
| 23:38.33 | Kody- | Raid tracking :) |
| 23:38.46 | Neebler | it adds those chat bubbles that blizzard intoduced into WoW like patch 1.8 -- to your pitbull frames |
| 23:38.48 | Undine | Kemayo, did you fix auldlangsyne (finally got the time to update again) |
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| 23:39.07 | Kemayo | Neebler: I am one of the few, the elite, the people who runs a *real* IRC client under ssh+screen. |
| 23:39.32 | Kemayo | Undine: "fixed" in a sense. I branched my changes and rolled the trunk back to a working version. |
| 23:39.40 | Sais | Kemayo: And irssi-proxy's to a windows client? ;) |
| 23:40.24 | Undine | ah cool, i understand the commitlog better now |
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| 23:41.01 | Sais | (or is that just me?) |
| 23:41.15 | Kemayo | Sais: Nah, I actually like using the console for everything.. |
| 23:41.38 | Sais | I use the console when I ssh from work, but I run mIRC at home. |
| 23:43.02 | Esteth_ | off-topic: is it possible to open an SSH tunnel through a web-filtering connection that requires a username/password? i tried it before with putty, but couldn't get it to work |
| 23:43.03 | Sais | I put a lot of effort into the scripts I have on mIRC, and haven't got the effort (or the no-job time) to spend on making them work under irssi...although I probably should. |
| 23:43.06 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44141 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
| 23:43.26 | Sais | Esteth_: I believe it is. I've never done it. |
| 23:43.58 | Kemayo | Esteth_: So long as you can ssh directly through that connection, it should work. |
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| 23:47.06 | Esteth_ | Kemayo/Sais: I beleive the connection is port-filtered. If it's possible to run SSH through port 80 (outgoing) or another "normal", it might work then. I dont think the filter checks the content of the packets, except to check the URL, and i can setup a subdomain on a non-filtered address to point to my home IP address to clear the URL check :) |
| 23:47.15 | Esteth_ | I think i'll have a play about with it again :) |
| 23:47.36 | Killmore7 | [2007/07/18 19:47:09-330-x1]: Threat-1.0-44136 (Threat-1.0):282: bad argument #1 to 'setmetatable' (table expected, got number) |
| 23:47.43 | Antiarc|Work | wtf. |
| 23:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | ooooh. |
| 23:48.07 | Sais | It's possible to accept ssh on any port...although you'd have to forego that port for anything else, afaik |
| 23:48.50 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44142 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for :ResetTPS() to handle start-of-combat timer. |
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| 23:49.56 | Esteth_ | Sais: since none of these computers run servers, i should be fine going out through 80, and at home i can use the default SSH port :) |
| 23:50.08 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44143 10Omen/OmenMenu.lua: Omen: Fix to a copy/paste menu error |
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| 23:51.40 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: you get any reports of hard freezes from threat/omen recently? |
| 23:51.49 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, several, all of a sudden. :P |
| 23:51.53 | durcyn | add one. |
| 23:51.57 | Antiarc|Work | Looking at it. |
| 23:52.07 | Antiarc|Work | Doh. |
| 23:52.09 | Antiarc|Work | Doh doh doh. |
| 23:52.11 | Antiarc|Work | There it is. |
| 23:52.11 | sergio | I just got one when archimonde targeted me |
| 23:52.23 | sb | mhhh omen doesnt seem to be accurate sometimes :/ |
| 23:52.27 | kaiden | yay for dual boxing :) i just duo'd Uvuros in SMV haha |
| 23:52.34 | sb | nightbane - mage 10000 threat away from tank -> aggro -> wipe :o |
| 23:52.34 | kaiden | duo'd Ruul The Darkener last night with my priest |
| 23:52.39 | kaiden | and my warrior |
| 23:52.43 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44144 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to the hardlock error. Infinite loops are bad, mmmkay? |
| 23:52.52 | kaiden | i wish it were easier to get groups on my server :/ |
| 23:53.03 | Thelyna | sb: and KTM is better? |
| 23:53.06 | NeoTron | kind of bad blizzard doesn't have any kind of max eval time implemented to prevent hard locks |
| 23:53.14 | sb | mhh didnt say that Thelyna :p |
| 23:53.18 | Antiarc|Work | sb: Nightbane is a very odd fight. |
| 23:53.24 | Antiarc|Work | There's a mechanic there that I'm not handling. |
| 23:53.25 | sb | just trying to figure out why its that off sometimes ;) |
| 23:53.27 | sb | mhhh yes |
| 23:53.36 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect one of his moves is a mild deaggro. |
| 23:53.41 | Antiarc|Work | Not sure which though. |
| 23:53.53 | Thelyna | charred earth maybe? |
| 23:53.54 | sb | mhhh - well - perhapse that -range debuff |
| 23:53.56 | Chompers | so what's this i hear about changing your hair style in 2.2? |
| 23:54.00 | Chompers | is it real? |
| 23:54.07 | sb | lol? |
| 23:54.15 | durcyn | i hope so. some hats make my gnome look like he has a damn unibrow. |
| 23:54.15 | sb | where did you hear that? :p |
| 23:54.29 | charon | sb, antiarc: i find omen is very accurate at least in fights where i have to offtank "behind" a warrior, say moroes... the prediction made by the comparison hasn't failed me so far |
| 23:54.29 | Chompers | guy's telling me he read it on the forums |
| 23:54.45 | charon | s/comparison/threat pullout bar/ |
| 23:54.47 | sb | charon: yep, i think that problem is nightbane related |
| 23:56.28 | Antiarc|Work | I've had dozens on dozens of Nightbane reports, but it's -always- nightbane. |
| 23:56.43 | Antiarc|Work | If I was getting Curator and Moroes and Attumen reports, I'd be more worried |
| 23:56.47 | Antiarc|Work | But I think I'm just not catching something |
| 23:56.55 | Antiarc|Work | I'm gonna /combatlog it next time |
| 23:57.01 | charon | well, there's also something going on with kiggler the crazed that i haven't understood yet, i always manage to grab aggro (through cat dps) even though the hunters tanking him have a few minutes of a headstart |
| 23:57.07 | NeoTron | so it's not that nightbane doesn't actually reset aggro upon landing? |
| 23:57.12 | charon | (or maybe hunters just hit feign death every 30s without thinking) |
| 23:57.19 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Well, many of these happen before he takes off. |
| 23:57.27 | NeoTron | charon: there's a deaggro knockback |
| 23:57.31 | Antiarc|Work | charon: Kiggler's arcane explosion is a deaggro too |
| 23:57.32 | NeoTron | ah hmm |
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| 23:58.11 | charon | sucks. though i think our healing and my fur has improved to the point where i can survive it |
| 23:58.15 | sb | Antiarc|Work: mhh - need combatlog? |
| 23:58.20 | Antiarc|Work | sb: That'd be great |
| 23:58.24 | sb | i was about to upload it to WWS |
| 23:58.40 | Antiarc|Work | I won't be able to deduce the mechanic from the log, but I can add debug stuff for various abilities. |
| 23:58.41 | charon | btw, last ID nightbane always did his _first_ flame rain thing into every flight phase on me (MT). luck? |
| 23:58.43 | sb | okay lets see... :o |
| 23:59.17 | Antiarc|Work | http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3388201 |
| 23:59.53 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44145 10Prat/extras/ (PratFu.lua PratWaterfall.lua): Prat: PratFu.lua + PratWaterfall.lua: clicking Prat's FuBar entry will now open the Waterfall config screen, if available |
