| 00:00.50 | Thelyna | oh, so it clears out the addon folder before loading the new one? |
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| 00:01.39 | ckknight | Droolio: I mean, I looked into it and all, and I know the issue and know how to fix it, it'll just take a while and I have other priorities |
| 00:02.09 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r43951 10AtlasLoot/PvP/ (Battlegrounds.es.lua PvP.xml): |
| 00:02.09 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:02.09 | CIA-22 | - Started spanish translation: added Battlegrounds.es.lua |
| 00:03.23 | Droolio | ckknight: sure np, i think i will step up my move to using 'guild' distribution instead. altho really my addon needs to spread the data a bit further so prolly use group as well when that's the case |
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| 00:03.41 | ckknight | Droolio: what addon is this? |
| 00:03.57 | Droolio | Nauticus, the old zeppelinmaster |
| 00:04.12 | Droolio | the new rather :) |
| 00:04.59 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r43952 10AtlasLoot/WorldBosses/ (WorldBosses.xml worldbosses.es.lua): |
| 00:04.59 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:04.59 | CIA-22 | - Added worldbosses.es.lua |
| 00:05.50 | buu | Hrm. |
| 00:06.02 | buu | Is there any add on that gives me a really detailed annotated map of wherever I happen to be? |
| 00:06.15 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 00:06.42 | ckknight | Droolio: imho, things are better kept to guild/group/whisper rather than relying on channels |
| 00:07.08 | Xuerian | buu: The closest thing to that is yatlas, and it's interesting to find a working version of that. Seeing as cart still doesn't have a minimap view its' the only high-detail option |
| 00:07.16 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r43953 10AtlasLoot/AtlasLoot.toc: |
| 00:07.16 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:07.16 | CIA-22 | - Added spanish description to .TOC file |
| 00:07.25 | buu | Xuerian: Heh, interesting? |
| 00:07.40 | Xuerian | buu: Most versions on the addon sites have problems working |
| 00:07.48 | Xuerian | The author is mia |
| 00:08.12 | Droolio | aye. well the idea is that the transport timers needed to be broadcast to other users. so i'm hoping a combo of guild and group will help it spread like a virus at least if i can calibrate the round-trip-times very precisely |
| 00:08.20 | buu | Xuerian: Shucks =[ |
| 00:09.28 | buu | Xuerian: That's pretty cool, but perhaps slightly overkill for what I want. I'd settle for a static 'regular' map like cart/atlas provides, but with annotations, like, "here be flight master" |
| 00:10.08 | Xuerian | buu: You can find modules for cart that will annotate as you discover things |
| 00:10.26 | Xuerian | It does have a problem with generating bad duplicate notes though |
| 00:10.28 | buu | Well, once I've discovered them I know where they are =] |
| 00:10.29 | Xuerian | so get _cleanup :p |
| 00:10.44 | Xuerian | Not aware of a pre-annotated version |
| 00:10.46 | buu | =[ |
| 00:11.04 | Xuerian | Guards are your friends |
| 00:11.23 | ckknight | buu: well, I have one like that, actually |
| 00:11.27 | ckknight | it's part of a leveling guide |
| 00:11.50 | Xuerian | ckknight: Can you distribute it? |
| 00:11.56 | ckknight | http://www.zygorguides.com/ |
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| 00:12.16 | ckknight | you can pay for it for $10 |
| 00:12.20 | ckknight | it's lvl 1-70 alliance |
| 00:12.26 | ckknight | integrates with Cartographer |
| 00:12.30 | buu | Cute. |
| 00:12.35 | buu | Too bad it involves those pesky allies =[ |
| 00:12.40 | ckknight | and I make 50 cents every sale :-P |
| 00:12.45 | ckknight | buu: he's gonna release a horde one soon |
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| 00:13.32 | Chompers | this is the guy who's paying you right ckk ? |
| 00:13.36 | ckknight | yep |
| 00:13.49 | Thelyna | so you get a fat 5% profit? ;p |
| 00:13.50 | Chompers | not bad, i like the idea |
| 00:13.50 | ckknight | and I offer support and I made the Cart plugin for it |
| 00:13.59 | ckknight | Thelyna: sure do, for very little work |
| 00:14.03 | ckknight | since Cart was already made |
| 00:14.15 | buu | ckknight: Do you make 100s of gold per hour? |
| 00:14.17 | ckknight | all I gotta do is keep it up to date with patches and provide him a bit of tech support now and again |
| 00:14.30 | ckknight | buu: I have a lvl 39 pally |
| 00:14.34 | ckknight | I don't play much |
| 00:14.40 | buu | Shucks. |
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| 00:15.25 | Thelyna | so one of the more prolific addon developers out there doesn't even play the game much? |
| 00:15.39 | Thelyna | just find that funny |
| 00:16.20 | ckknight | I spend too much time coding |
| 00:16.28 | buu | So.. to further strain your patience, is there a recommendation for a good mod that will provide lots of 'after action' type reports? Like, total dps, party dps, what killed you, etc? |
| 00:16.49 | ckknight | I use Violation for DPS stuff |
| 00:16.57 | Chompers | recount |
| 00:17.01 | Thelyna | sw stats |
| 00:17.04 | Thelyna | any of them work |
| 00:17.13 | Thelyna | just try them and find one that suits you |
| 00:17.14 | Chompers | but recount>swstats |
| 00:17.34 | Chompers | it's got graphs and pie charts, everythings better with pie charts |
| 00:18.07 | buu | Woo, pie charts. |
| 00:18.18 | buu | Violation is pretty simple. |
| 00:18.36 | Neebler | hyuk hyuk |
| 00:18.38 | sb | but has sync stuff in :o |
| 00:18.53 | sb | and for detailed reports i prefer to use WWS :) |
| 00:19.00 | sb | wws > * :p |
| 00:19.08 | vithos | agreed |
| 00:19.13 | vithos | wws is great |
| 00:20.17 | buu | Oh, and more pesky questions. While I was briefly using mazzleui, it had a 'context actionbar' that was pretty nifty. Is there a mod that provides just that somehow? |
| 00:20.46 | Mikk | context? |
| 00:20.48 | ckknight | what did it do? |
| 00:20.51 | Mikk | like click on items? |
| 00:20.58 | Chompers | like autobar? |
| 00:21.03 | Chompers | or bartender3 |
| 00:21.04 | buu | No, it just came up next to your mouse when you alt-clicked or some such |
| 00:21.12 | Thelyna | geist? |
| 00:21.25 | buu | Heyy |
| 00:21.26 | buu | Very cool. |
| 00:22.23 | buu | You are full of win. |
| 00:23.35 | ckknight | I'm full of win too :-( |
| 00:24.00 | buu | It's oozing a little. |
| 00:24.01 | sb | ":("? |
| 00:24.50 | ckknight | sb: buu didn't mention my win goop |
| 00:26.01 | buu | Hrm. Huds. |
| 00:29.16 | buu | So.. since you guys have so much awesome to spare, is there any good way to move the location of the 'tooltip'? |
| 00:29.23 | buu | It shows up on top of my minimap =[ |
| 00:29.36 | Mikk | every tooltip addon can do it |
| 00:29.36 | buu | Hrm. TinyTip? |
| 00:29.37 | Mikk | tinytip for instance |
| 00:29.40 | buu | Ah. |
| 00:29.44 | buu | Win! |
| 00:30.04 | aen` | how do you macro to equip "blank" essentially |
| 00:30.36 | aen` | to dequip weps on low health |
| 00:30.50 | Mikk | install closetgnome_ohnoes :P |
| 00:30.56 | aen` | its too buggy |
| 00:31.01 | JoshBorke | /unequip? |
| 00:31.27 | aen` | no |
| 00:34.45 | aen` | anyone? |
| 00:34.52 | xt | i ai |
| 00:37.46 | Chompers | or CowTip |
| 00:38.06 | Chompers | TinyTip isn't the only tooltip mod |
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| 00:40.38 | Daemoen | hey guys, question about quartz :-) |
| 00:40.40 | Daemoen | what is the global cooldown for? |
| 00:41.14 | Chompers | to tell you when the gcd is over |
| 00:41.43 | Chompers | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cooldown |
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| 00:48.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43954 10Parrot/ (5 files): |
| 00:48.33 | CIA-22 | Parrot - add DB to triggers, add options. Now triggers finally work, or at least they should. |
| 00:48.33 | CIA-22 | Please test to make sure it actually does work. |
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| 00:49.06 | ckknight | plztest |
| 00:49.08 | ckknight | kthx |
| 00:51.33 | Talyx | speaking about Quartz and the GCD module, what is the primary/backup spell required for? |
| 00:52.18 | Chompers | to find your classes GCD time |
| 00:52.32 | Chompers | and a backup incase that fails |
| 00:53.14 | Talyx | oh |
| 00:55.10 | durcyn | try to use something that's not couterspellable, like find herbs |
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| 01:10.20 | Chompers | just installed parrot ckknight |
| 01:10.27 | Chompers | looking forward to trying it out |
| 01:10.38 | ckknight | it's entered beta, btw. |
| 01:10.42 | ckknight | as of the last commit |
| 01:10.47 | Chompers | i know :p |
| 01:11.00 | Chompers | you said the same about pitbull, i still tried it |
| 01:11.21 | ckknight | it was alpha previously |
| 01:11.39 | aen` | omg |
| 01:11.49 | aen` | ckknight: you started a SCT mod? |
| 01:11.56 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:12.00 | ckknight | and it's now in beta |
| 01:12.05 | ckknight | which means ready for public consumption |
| 01:12.07 | aen` | ckknight: no scl rewrite? |
| 01:12.12 | ckknight | nope |
| 01:12.21 | ckknight | I don't care much for scl |
| 01:12.32 | Daemoen | hey ck... whats the image viewing distance for party members? |
| 01:12.38 | ckknight | dunno |
| 01:12.41 | Daemoen | under pitbull |
| 01:12.41 | aen` | are you going to provide spam supression on spells like vamp embrace/ |
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| 01:13.45 | ckknight | aen`: how do you mean? |
| 01:13.51 | ckknight | Daemoen: don't know |
| 01:13.57 | RogueShadow | Merging Multiple hits isn't it? |
| 01:13.59 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 01:14.02 | ckknight | that's in the works |
| 01:14.12 | aen` | ckknight: merging multiple spam into one, kind of how msbt works |
| 01:14.14 | RogueShadow | Naturally. I was promised an MSBT clone. Sorta. |
| 01:14.22 | ckknight | yea, it's a clean-room MSBT clone |
| 01:15.13 | Diao | support for custom filters too? |
| 01:15.20 | ckknight | filters? |
| 01:15.24 | Diao | like |
| 01:15.26 | Diao | uhh |
| 01:15.30 | Diao | adding custom events |
| 01:15.38 | ckknight | depends on the context, but I can say yes |
| 01:15.48 | ckknight | they're called triggers |
| 01:15.57 | Diao | ie|Stiffe, if i want to add a popup when i proc mace stun |
| 01:16.00 | Diao | er |
| 01:16.04 | Diao | stupid autocomplete |
| 01:16.09 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:16.21 | ckknight | you make a trigger |
| 01:16.29 | ckknight | set the primary condition to Self Buff Gain |
| 01:16.37 | ckknight | and the buff that you get |
| 01:16.41 | Diao | ok |
| 01:16.44 | Diao | so just like msbt |
| 01:16.51 | ckknight | as I said, it's a clean-room MSBT clone |
| 01:17.26 | aen` | i was hoping your next project was going to be a combat log ;o |
| 01:17.43 | mjc | I like simplecombatlog |
| 01:17.53 | mjc | :P |
| 01:18.05 | ckknight | but I have no use for it |
| 01:18.12 | ckknight | therefore no motivation for me to make it |
| 01:18.19 | Diao | lol |
| 01:18.27 | Chompers | ckknight: would it be possible to add some flags to events? |
| 01:18.52 | Chompers | so it only shows 'killing blows' while in a group, not solo |
| 01:19.04 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:19.07 | ckknight | not now |
| 01:19.40 | ckknight | Chompers: though frankly, I might just hack that in standard. |
| 01:20.08 | Chompers | have it hardcoded i guess? |
| 01:20.16 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r43955 10ClassTimer/Locales/zhCN.lua: ClassTimer: zhCN translation updated |
| 01:20.35 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:21.31 | mjc | hyperChipmunk: can it b stabbing tiem now? |
| 01:21.37 | mjc | bulkmailinbox is still fubared |
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| 01:24.56 | Chompers | ckknight: needs moar msbt ;) |
| 01:25.00 | Chompers | or cowbell |
| 01:25.01 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:30.45 | Pkekyo | someone tell me quick: the warrior + defense talent, when fully specced, how much defense does it give? |
| 01:31.00 | Megalon | 20 defense |
| 01:31.16 | Megalon | if you mean anticipation |
| 01:31.24 | Pkekyo | aye, thanks |
| 01:31.40 | Pkekyo | doing maths on how much of my gear I can re-gem with stamina :> |
| 01:32.45 | Pkekyo | 489 without anticipation...soeh...I could get rid of...19 defense points in gems, no? |
| 01:33.26 | Megalon | yes |
| 01:33.31 | Pkekyo | is there any red gems for tanking out there? |
| 01:33.46 | Megalon | not really, there are parry / dodge gems |
| 01:33.56 | Shirik | red is generally AP-related |
| 01:33.56 | Shirik | str, ap, spell dam |
| 01:33.56 | Shirik | heal |
| 01:33.59 | Shirik | etc. |
| 01:34.24 | Shirik | those are crossed colors iirc |
| 01:34.25 | Megalon | there isn't really a red tankgem out there made by jewelcrafting |
| 01:34.37 | Pkekyo | damnit |
| 01:34.48 | Shirik | If you're looking for a tank gem you're probably going to want to go with a purple or orange |
| 01:34.55 | Shirik | blue is generally stat and yellow rating |
| 01:35.03 | Shirik | it follows a pattern :) |
| 01:35.08 | Pkekyo | the socket bonuses on the felsteel set is pretty damn tasty |
| 01:35.23 | Pkekyo | agi could work for tanking, no? |
| 01:35.32 | Shirik | there's nothing WRONG with going for strength |
| 01:35.33 | Shirik | a little extra damage for threat is never a bad thing |
| 01:35.35 | Shirik | agi too sure |
| 01:35.39 | Shirik | can't hurt |
| 01:35.46 | Pkekyo | living rubys with both 8 agi and 8 parry rating out there... |
| 01:35.54 | Shirik | there's no reason not to stick a green gem in there for the bonus at the very least |
| 01:35.55 | Megalon | 8 dodge is also possible |
| 01:35.57 | Shirik | it's not going to hurt you |
| 01:36.01 | Pkekyo | threat is not my problem...dying is |
| 01:36.15 | Shirik | yell at your healers more =P |
| 01:36.31 | Shirik | tell the nub shadow priests to stop being nubs and spec holy for holy nova |
| 01:36.31 | Shirik | ha |
| 01:36.37 | Pkekyo | my brother sat on my mic and destroyed it, so I can't yell at them :< |
| 01:37.11 | raider|poul | hmm, my prat have somehow locked my chats so i cant change the size of the chat windows? |
| 01:37.15 | raider|poul | any ideas? |
| 01:37.15 | Mikk | so wtf is the idea with urlcopy truncating after 32 letters? |
| 01:37.17 | Pkekyo | 8agi or 8 dodge rating? |
| 01:37.24 | Shirik | raider|poul: Or maybe you hit the "lock chat" button? |
| 01:37.31 | raider|poul | ? |
| 01:37.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43956 10Parrot/ (CombatEvents.lua Parrot.lua): |
| 01:37.33 | CIA-22 | Parrot - add option to disable the game healing/damage |
| 01:37.34 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - add options to the partial effects. |
| 01:37.38 | Shirik | right click a tab and hit "lock this window" |
| 01:37.39 | raider|poul | the standart lock chat thing? |
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| 01:37.41 | Daz` | just put 12 stam in imo, damn the socket bonuses :P |
| 01:37.45 | Mikk | raider|poul: yes |
| 01:37.47 | raider|poul | not that Shirik |
| 01:37.56 | raider|poul | checked that alot of times |
| 01:37.59 | Shirik | and you're not in simple chat? |
| 01:38.00 | raider|poul | and arent the issue |
| 01:38.03 | raider|poul | nope |
| 01:38.07 | Mikk | raider|poul: Prat->ChatFrames then |
| 01:38.15 | raider|poul | but its a old version of prat tho |
| 01:38.16 | Pkekyo | daz: I can't afford spending 900g+ on regemming :< |
| 01:38.28 | Shirik | sure you can |
| 01:38.30 | Daz` | 9 stam? :P |
| 01:38.33 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:38.38 | Daz` | 9 stam is a good start, its like 1g per gem |
| 01:38.39 | Shirik | why would you complain about an old version not working -_- |
| 01:38.41 | raider|poul | and i dont have that prat minimap icon :) |
| 01:38.47 | Daz` | then you upgrade as you get cash or get epics |
| 01:39.05 | Shirik | I would suggest you upgrade and see if it's resolved first |
| 01:39.09 | raider|poul | because i am like 95% sure its not because its old that it have locked the frames |
| 01:39.27 | Shirik | so the 5% isn't worth updating? |
| 01:39.27 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43957 10Assessment/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:39.27 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 01:39.27 | CIA-22 | - Added Group DPS as a FuBar text preset |
| 01:39.37 | Pkekyo | Felsteel helm: 3x9stam |
| 01:39.38 | Pkekyo | Felsteel gloves: 9stam, 4def/6stam |
| 01:39.38 | Pkekyo | Felsteel legs: 8def, 9stam, 4def/6stam |
| 01:40.20 | Daz` | personally i put 4agi/4hit in all yellow slots ;) |
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| 01:40.44 | Shirik | I hate to be rude, but there are a LOT of people out there that refuse to even offer support before you update; more importantly, changelogs don't always show everything, because authors forget every little detail and some things have side effects |
| 01:40.52 | Shirik | I would strongly suggest you update first |
| 01:40.59 | Daz` | even if you are at the defence cap, its still good to go over because you get the block/dodge/parry/miss ratings from it, so i would just chill with what you have until the epix roll in |
| 01:42.11 | Pkekyo | Daz: wouldn't it be better to get more powerful avoidance gems instead of getting avoidance from defense? it's like... 4x0.04 avoidance rating or 8 dodge rating for instance... |
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| 01:43.13 | Thelyna | dodge rating is better for avoidance yes |
| 01:43.35 | Daz` | as you move into end game, high armor/stam become more important than high avoidance for staying alive |
| 01:43.41 | Thelyna | *but* being over the defence cap means you can swap gear around (i.e. for resist, or more avoidance, or more stamina) without being crittable |
| 01:44.05 | Pkekyo | resistance? wtf kind of resistance gear am I gonna need? we're only starting kara now |
| 01:44.22 | Megalon | in kara, nothing |
| 01:44.27 | Daz` | SR for heroic mana tombs lol |
| 01:44.30 | Megalon | resistance gear starts with hydross |
| 01:44.31 | Thelyna | wait until you hit ssc :p |
| 01:44.33 | Kaydeethree | the first one you'll get to is hydross |
| 01:44.47 | Daz` | whats your armor/hp unbuffed? |
| 01:45.00 | Thelyna | by which time you should hopefully have mostly epic tanking gear, and a full suit of resist gear besides |
| 01:45.09 | Thelyna | so you're right resist is hardly a factor |
| 01:45.33 | Thelyna | but being over 490 def does give you flexibility |
| 01:45.52 | Pkekyo | I won't see SSC any time soon |
| 01:45.56 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43958 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment: BaRInterface: changed WindowFightIndex back to FightIndex |
| 01:45.57 | Daz` | yeah, some fights require higher hp than avoidance |
| 01:46.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43959 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add colors to damage types |
| 01:46.25 | Pkekyo | MS specced: 12.3k armor, 11.5k hp |
| 01:46.37 | Daz` | your fine then, if you die its cause your healers suck |
| 01:46.52 | Chompers | maggy before ssc |
| 01:47.01 | Chompers | and gruul before him |
| 01:47.18 | Thelyna | at 11.5k hp? prince will probably gib him |
| 01:47.25 | Thelyna | but he'd be fine for anything before that yeah |
| 01:47.30 | Daz` | if hes just starting kara he has a while to gear up ;) |
| 01:47.30 | Xuerian | My guild is skipping gruul and mag and complaining that they can't down hydross |
| 01:47.35 | Shirik | you could get away with that |
| 01:47.39 | Shirik | you just need the right little boosts |
| 01:47.44 | Shirik | everyone needs to be on their a-game |
| 01:47.49 | Daz` | and the extra armor/hp from prot should help |
| 01:47.53 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 01:47.59 | Daz` | if you are planning to respec that is |
| 01:48.01 | Shirik | scorpid sting needs to be perma-up, etc. |
| 01:48.04 | Pkekyo | I was prot until a few hours ago >.< |
| 01:48.27 | Pkekyo | guild had me respecc prot for going kara this weekend...post-poned for some time now, so I had to respecc again to be able to do anything |
| 01:48.44 | Chompers | so your first attempt on attumen then? |
| 01:49.24 | Pkekyo | wit this guild: yes |
| 01:49.39 | Mikk | http://home.arcor.de/t.mross/Misc/voidie.JPG <- i love our guild's strategy charts |
| 01:49.48 | Pkekyo | only thing I've never done on my warr in kara before is chess, actually... |
| 01:50.12 | Daz` | yeah chess is pretty hard |
| 01:50.15 | Daz` | need some good gear for that |
| 01:50.25 | Pkekyo | I've never gotten to do it...pisses me off :< |
| 01:50.26 | Shirik | we failed chess once |
| 01:50.30 | Shirik | that guy's never allowed to be king again |
| 01:50.31 | Mikk | o.O |
| 01:50.34 | Daz` | for reals |
| 01:50.38 | Kaydeethree | what the... |
| 01:50.39 | Shirik | he took the king and charged to the front lines! |
| 01:50.40 | Mikk | lemme guess, he stood in the fire? |
| 01:50.42 | Shirik | in the middle of everything! |
| 01:50.43 | Daz` | our OT goes in and solos it when he is bored :P |
| 01:51.00 | Shirik | He's never allowed to be king again, not even kidding >< |
| 01:51.00 | buu | Mikk: that's an awesome diagram. |
| 01:51.09 | sb | hm goodnite |
| 01:51.12 | Daz` | i love that strat |
| 01:51.13 | sb | ckknight: very nice :) |
| 01:51.17 | Daz` | mind if i post it on my guild forum? :P |
| 01:51.54 | Mikk | you're welcome =) |
| 01:51.58 | Daz` | hot stuff |
| 01:52.06 | Kaydeethree | meh... someone posted a "how to survive the hydross elevators" strat earlier today... dunno if it was in here or not |
| 01:52.10 | Kaydeethree | absolutely hilarious, though |
| 01:52.57 | Thorgard | Does Parrot ooze enough sex to be tested and abused yet? |
| 01:52.58 | ZealotOnAStick | do wha? |
| 01:53.41 | pastamancer | I suppose it depends on what country you're in, as to whether that's legal or not |
| 01:53.44 | Mikk | No but it goes "POLLYWANTSABIGFUCKINGCRACKER" and takes a nice chomp outta your free mem pool :P |
| 01:54.25 | Thorgard | Oh, Mikk, don't stop the dirty talk, you're turning me on. |
| 01:54.27 | raider|poul | do eePanels have any premade panels/textures now? dont think it had last i tryed? |
| 01:54.53 | Pkekyo | ok, I need a concrete answer: what should I put in the red slot on felsteel helm? (yes, I want the socket bonus) |
| 01:55.11 | Thorgard | Pkekyo, a gem. |
| 01:55.18 | ckknight | Mikk: you should update. |
| 01:55.34 | ckknight | Thorgard: yea, it's beta now |
| 01:55.34 | Daz` | Pkekyo: glinting noble topaz imo |
| 01:55.37 | Mikk | prolly =) |
| 01:55.46 | Thorgard | ckknight, excellent. |
| 01:55.54 | Pkekyo | Thorgard: no shit sherlock? thanks for the help captain obvious |
| 01:56.02 | ckknight | Mikk: it now creates options lazily |
| 01:56.32 | Pkekyo | Daz: 4hit/4agi? benefitial rather than 4def/6stam? |
| 01:56.41 | Mikk | ckknight: ahh nice |
| 01:57.11 | Daz` | little bit of dodge/armor/crit and +hit (thats why you want the bonus right?) |
| 01:57.29 | Thorgard | Pkekyo, no need to be rude. :~( |
| 01:57.30 | Daz` | not really any better red gems for +hit unless you want to farm for the dodge/hit one |
| 01:57.55 | Pkekyo | Daz: just saw the bonus, think I rather go for legs or gloves instead...hit is not my main concern atm |
| 01:57.57 | aen` | is there a way to unequip items with a macro? |
| 01:58.29 | Daz` | btw, you havent considered using the KoT legs instead? |
| 01:58.30 | Pkekyo | Thorgard: yes need to be rude. |
| 01:58.46 | Pkekyo | sec, gonna compare the stats of them |
| 01:58.56 | Thorgard | Pkekyo, ur a meaniehead :( |
| 01:59.12 | raider|poul | hmm, updated prat. but still dont have have the minimap menu from it,? have i disabled it somewhere? |
| 01:59.56 | Pkekyo | Thorgard: quite the observer, aren't we? :> |
| 02:00.02 | Daz` | 93 stam on legs is hard to pass up ;) |
| 02:00.17 | Daz` | they do have lower def tho which might solve your question of where to drop defence for other stats |
| 02:00.18 | loonacy | raider|poul: Is it sitting on your fubar? |
| 02:00.37 | raider|poul | dont use fubar |
| 02:00.49 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.06 | raider|poul | did the trick |
| 02:01.18 | Pkekyo | true, but I miss out on 15 defense too... |
| 02:01.31 | Mikk | or you can just do "/prat waterfall" to bring up a config dialog |
| 02:01.55 | Pkekyo | I'm gonna go for the KoT legs |
| 02:01.55 | Mikk | though i want to smack people for using the name "waterfall" in commands |
| 02:02.06 | Mikk | who the hell understand that "waterfall" pops up a config dialog >.< |
| 02:02.09 | Pkekyo | problem is: need one more BM run to get revered, and noone is doing BM anymore :< |
| 02:02.19 | raider|poul | i have unlocked a chatwindow now, but still i cant just pull a cornor and resize it |
| 02:03.43 | Daz` | take some nubs through for kara attune, or even better leveling nubs through durn gives about 900 rep from memory :P |
| 02:03.56 | Daz` | ps. how do you not have KoT rev? you need that for the helm enchant! |
| 02:04.34 | Pkekyo | Keepers of Time: Honored - 10640/12000 (88.7%) |
| 02:05.05 | Pkekyo | so basically...one BM run |
| 02:06.07 | Daz` | 1 and a bit i think ;) |
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| 02:06.35 | Daz` | KoT rev was the first thing i did when i hit 70 on my warrior, its about 1100 rep per run |
| 02:06.49 | Daz` | i did like 7 runs of that place last weekend :( |
| 02:08.46 | raider|poul | are there a command in prat to reset it all or easyer to just delete the prat in wtf? |
| 02:09.32 | Pkekyo | aye, 1110, I stand corrected |
| 02:10.34 | Pkekyo | 3x durnholde easier/faster than 1x BM + 1x durnholde? |
| 02:10.56 | Daz` | BM=25 min event |
| 02:11.08 | Daz` | so about 40 mins from zone in to zone out and reset |
| 02:11.12 | Daz` | trust me ;) |
| 02:11.47 | Daz` | probably less than 40 if you dont mess around seeing how many mobs you can train lol |
| 02:12.17 | Pkekyo | train mobs? I'm a warr >.< |
| 02:12.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43960 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - added help to the usage of tag-based events. |
| 02:12.29 | Pkekyo | ah, like THAT train |
| 02:12.39 | Pkekyo | I need to put my head on straight in the morning :> |
| 02:13.13 | Pkekyo | christ...some guy in guild explaining his absense with having to "take an emergency shit" |
| 02:13.37 | fate | haha |
| 02:13.39 | Mikk | bwhaha |
| 02:13.42 | Daz` | lawl |
| 02:14.21 | Mikk | always gets some single teen in a huff :> |
| 02:14.28 | raider|poul | http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1746/sichosisuiv4vc0.jpg that guy, those blue frames are that eepanels? |
| 02:14.33 | Pkekyo | "my hand and willie demanded some alone-time" was quite common in my old guild... |
| 02:14.43 | Pkekyo | probably, aye |
| 02:14.59 | Pkekyo | the ones in white was MUCH classier though |
| 02:15.24 | Daz` | i cant use that mikk |
| 02:15.38 | Daz` | cause my missus always goes "thats why we were only afk for 30 secs" |
| 02:15.43 | Pkekyo | Daz: btw, 1x durnholde + 1x BM or 3x durnholde? never got a straight answer on that :p |
| 02:15.43 | Daz` | fkn wife in guild ftl |
| 02:15.52 | Daz` | 2 bm lols, or 1.5 :P |
| 02:16.01 | Pkekyo | kek |
| 02:16.10 | Daz` | take a pro group and smash it fast |
| 02:16.46 | Pkekyo | all the pro peoples I knew are pissed off 'cause I flamed pretty much every officer there was when I left my old guild :> |
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| 02:17.33 | Daz` | sounds smart to me |
| 02:18.01 | Pkekyo | is there an easy way to find out wether I did a quest or not? |
| 02:18.10 | Daz` | get someone to try share it with you |
| 02:18.32 | Mikk | Daz`: yeah, i have the same problem now. got her hooked a month back :S |
| 02:19.04 | Daz` | my mistake was showing her the box w/ NE female on the front and telling her she could dress it up and get it a pet |
| 02:19.07 | Pkekyo | fat chance of finding anyone with Hero of the Brood at this time of night :> |
| 02:19.28 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 02:19.40 | Daz` | you probably have lol |
| 02:19.46 | Daz` | its like 8k rep straight up |
| 02:20.03 | raider|poul | do eepanels have some config minimap menu or is it only by text commands i can change and create panels? |
| 02:20.10 | Daz` | jsut zone into BM and see if the dude just inside the door has a quest for you |
| 02:20.12 | Pkekyo | I can't remember ever getting the quest revard |
| 02:20.17 | Daz` | if he doesnt, you have completed it :P |
| 02:20.32 | Daz` | mine got de'd, no stam ftl :( |
| 02:20.45 | Pkekyo | if I only had enchanting :< |
| 02:20.51 | raider|poul | nvm found it |
| 02:22.35 | Pkekyo | tbh, I don't think I'd vendor either of those rings tbh |
| 02:23.32 | Pkekyo | this jackoff in my guild has the quest, but won't fucking answer me |
| 02:24.10 | Daz` | in ur guild, not answerin ur questions lols |
| 02:24.12 | Pkekyo | is Hero of the Brood the BM attunement quest? |
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| 02:25.53 | Daz` | its the end of it |
| 02:26.01 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 02:26.09 | Pkekyo | christ, this guy is soooo fucking slow |
| 02:26.18 | Daz` | its the quest after you successfully run BM just to give you the reward |
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| 02:26.22 | Daz` | hi Funkeh` |
| 02:26.38 | Knaledge | Who is the author of Automaton? |
| 02:26.51 | Pkekyo | SHITE, completed it >.< |
| 02:27.29 | Daz` | get the ring from the Blood Elf + Giant quest line |
| 02:27.32 | Daz` | and the one from Arc |
| 02:27.32 | Daz` | imo |
| 02:27.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43961 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - now if you try to save tags as [SKILL] or [skill], it'll go to [Skill] |
| 02:28.10 | Pkekyo | +what you talking 'bout daz? |
| 02:28.57 | Daz` | off in my own little world lol |
| 02:28.58 | Pkekyo | I'm not after the ring, I was after the 8k instant rep >.< |
| 02:29.07 | Daz` | was busy thinking you wanted the ring for some reason |
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| 02:29.24 | Pkekyo | ftw, hunter named Ispankmypet |
| 02:31.16 | Pkekyo | holy shit it's 4.30 am |
| 02:31.48 | Daz` | naw, its 12:30pm |
| 02:32.19 | ulic | nah, it's 7:30pm |
| 02:32.20 | Pkekyo | hell no, where you at? |
| 02:32.36 | raider|poul | anyone who can help me creat a panel like on this http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1746/sichosisuiv4vc0.jpg those blue lines at top and buttom of chat and other objects? |
| 02:35.40 | ulic | raider|poul: interesting UI, I don't really care for the lines, but a unique look, sadly I can't tell you how he did it. |
| 02:36.30 | raider|poul | i just find eepanels abit limited atm, but mostlicky me who dont know all the tricks int |
| 02:36.32 | raider|poul | in it |
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| 02:38.58 | ulic | raider|poul: I use eepanels, but I just have two panels, top and bottom, that are just blue<->black gradiants |
| 02:39.12 | raider|poul | k |
| 02:39.42 | ulic | you could do what he did I think with eepanels, but it would be many many panels |
| 02:39.51 | ulic | not sure how the number of panels effect performance |
| 02:40.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43962 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - for partial effects, add tag help and tag fix-casing. |
| 02:42.05 | Xuerian | They shouldn't |
| 02:42.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hahah.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010953.html |
| 02:42.07 | Xuerian | just basic frames |
| 02:42.54 | raider|poul | ye |
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| 02:45.27 | ckknight | wondering if I should make my own art addon |
| 02:45.51 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:46.07 | ckknight | got a lot on my plate now, though |
| 02:48.20 | raider|poul | miss discord art atleast! |
| 02:48.29 | Pkekyo | gah...off farming fuckloads of adamantite again >:< |
| 02:48.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43963 10Parrot/Triggers.lua: |
| 02:48.50 | CIA-22 | Parrot_Triggers - for numbered trigger conditions (such as health percentage), a |
| 02:48.50 | CIA-22 | check is kept so that, e.g. for low health, if you set to 40%, if you go from |
| 02:48.51 | CIA-22 | 41% => 39%, it will fire, but from 39% => 38%, it won't fire, i.e. it will only |
| 02:48.51 | CIA-22 | fire when crossing the threshold. |
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| 02:51.17 | raider|poul | ulic gradiants dont seam to work that well, when aplha is turned down it just become white and not invisible |
| 02:51.22 | Recluse | i was looking at some code and saw BF["The Consortium"], and was wondering if the BF["foo"] was something inside of ace, or if it would be something added by the author (in a lib possibly?) |
| 02:51.54 | Shirik | BF is a horrible global name if that's what it is |
| 02:52.36 | ulic | raider|poul: yea, it wasn't obvious to me at first, I had to play around to get it to do what I wanted, but it is possible to color1 to color2 gradiants |
| 02:52.46 | Recluse | I agree on that point :p |
| 02:52.52 | ulic | but I don't remember what i did, and I just logged out for the night. |
| 02:53.02 | raider|poul | k |
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| 02:54.21 | ckknight | Recluse, Shirik: local BF = AceLibrary("Babble-Faction-2.2") |
| 02:55.05 | Recluse | ckknight: ah, faction localizations i imagine. thanks |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43964 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-22 | - Removed MissCount Tag, as it wasn't used, and wasn't even doing what its name suggested |
| 03:04.52 | Pkekyo | best spot to farm adamantat is still nagrand? |
| 03:06.09 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43965 10DrDamage/Data/ (Druid.lua Paladin.lua): |
| 03:06.09 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 03:06.09 | CIA-22 | - Druid predatory instincts fix |
| 03:06.09 | CIA-22 | - Paladin line 133 fix? |
| 03:06.24 | ZoidX | heh, line 133 rises again! |
| 03:07.35 | Gagorian | There was apparently something else too ;) |
| 03:07.48 | Gagorian | Level 4 paladin isn't the best thing to test that on |
| 03:07.56 | Gagorian | Considering the only thing I have is SoR |
| 03:08.46 | ZoidX | I'd let you try mine, but I'm in the middle of fighting Shazrah |
| 03:09.05 | ZoidX | wait, I can give you my pass on test |
| 03:09.07 | ZoidX | let me know |
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| 03:09.27 | Gagorian | Well, you can try it out first |
| 03:09.30 | Gagorian | Should be fine |
| 03:09.35 | ZoidX | will do, after the raid :) |
| 03:09.41 | Gagorian | I have to go sleep now anyway :p |
| 03:09.52 | ZoidX | Shazrah hits fucking insanely hard, 20k to the tank in less than one second :( |
| 03:09.55 | ZoidX | night |
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| 03:10.06 | Thelyna | shahrazh? |
| 03:10.11 | Thelyna | shazzrah is in MC |
| 03:10.20 | ZoidX | ya shahrazh |
| 03:10.30 | Xuerian | Ahh for 60 endgame again |
| 03:10.42 | Xuerian | or heroic versions |
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| 03:11.41 | Mikk | 10man heroic mc @ 70? =) |
| 03:11.47 | Xuerian | lol |
| 03:11.59 | Xuerian | In all honesty I'd like to see 40-mans again |
| 03:12.04 | Xuerian | now that I can actually do them >_> |
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| 03:13.17 | Mikk | 40mans were mostly a whole lot of slacking and afking :P |
| 03:13.43 | Pkekyo | true, but they were fuckall fun too |
| 03:14.00 | Pkekyo | even though there was alot of fuctards there, there were always some people you got along with too |
| 03:14.11 | Pkekyo | now you're pretty much stuck with 8-9 fucktards |
| 03:14.28 | Gagorian | Nice guild you got there! |
| 03:14.35 | Mikk | well erm the tbc 25mans don't really have room for fucktards |
| 03:14.48 | Mikk | they're kinda balanced around everyone doing good |
| 03:15.10 | Pkekyo | well, there's always fucktards |
| 03:15.18 | Mikk | so no more huntards afking with autoshot on on bossfights :P |
| 03:15.34 | Pkekyo | not necesarily slackers, but just complete fucking jackoffs |
| 03:15.40 | Mikk | worked well until she landed |
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| 03:21.18 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone know who "slake" is? |
| 03:22.32 | pastamancer | slake kills dumbledore? :p |
| 03:22.58 | ZealotOnAStick | trying to find a way to get in touch with the author of Expiration, which the toc seems to list as Slake. |
| 03:23.28 | Mikk | check on commiter names also? |
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| 03:24.25 | raider|poul | tryed everything now, newest prat and reset all settings. but i just cant resize the windows |
| 03:25.01 | Mikk | well. have you tried with prat disabled yet to see if that's actually the culprit? |
| 03:25.43 | raider|poul | ye |
| 03:25.48 | raider|poul | works fine without |
| 03:25.50 | Wobwork | hehe I love the "I am murloc" music video =) |
| 03:25.56 | raider|poul | then its just like wow standart chat windows |
| 03:26.02 | Wobwork | Lvl70ETC are great |
| 03:26.16 | Wobwork | The video is really well done |
| 03:26.36 | Pkekyo | does anyone here really consider battle/zerker stance as a minus 20% threat buff? |
| 03:26.42 | Mikk | someone's been having lots of fun with their modeller yeah :> |
| 03:26.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 03:27.01 | Wobwork | The tauren drummer is the best |
| 03:27.08 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 03:27.21 | Mikk | Pkekyo: you don't? |
| 03:27.22 | Pkekyo | that vid is a fucking work of art :> |
| 03:27.45 | Wobwork | I honestly would have preferred if the voice was a bit more... orcy |
| 03:27.56 | Wobwork | but other than that, it was really entertaining |
| 03:28.20 | Talyx | it's Lenny from Motorhead |
| 03:28.57 | Mikk | rly? |
| 03:29.00 | Talyx | and I mean Lemmy, not Lenny |
| 03:29.10 | PProvost | Lemmy Killmeister. WOOT |
| 03:29.49 | raider|poul | lol |
| 03:29.59 | raider|poul | i found the flaw! |
| 03:30.01 | raider|poul | :( |
| 03:31.03 | Aenslaed | oh man. shade of akama two shot, and we had no idea what we were doing. Hey guys, we're doing this wrong. Guys, Akama is at 40%. Shade of Akama defeated! |
| 03:32.13 | Pkekyo | Mikk: no, I don't |
| 03:33.05 | Pkekyo | I see def/zerkerstance as a buff to battle stance, rather than battle and zerker stance a buff to def stance |
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| 03:33.32 | cynyr | anyone know what happened to Kenergy? |
| 03:33.50 | durcyn | kergoth fell asleep |
| 03:33.54 | NeoTron | is there a good timer addon that has similar features to dotimer, but less resource hungry? I.e somewhere between classtimer and dotimer |
| 03:33.55 | ZealotOnAStick | someone piss off Kergoth when I wasn't around? |
| 03:35.03 | cynyr | idk but it dropped off the svn server, and i was curious, cause i really liked that one |
| 03:35.31 | Pkekyo | SVN? |
| 03:36.26 | cynyr | yes svn |
| 03:36.57 | cynyr | anyways i'm off to bed |
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| 03:51.13 | Xuerian | It's on his private git server |
| 03:51.15 | Xuerian | he's trying out git |
| 03:51.19 | Xuerian | well not private |
| 03:51.27 | Xuerian | and he's pushing released to wowace svn :p |
| 03:52.30 | Xuerian | No hostility involved |
| 03:53.24 | Mikk | lies |
| 03:53.30 | Mikk | this is kergoth we're talking about |
| 03:53.49 | ckknight | ~kergoth |
| 03:53.49 | purl | somebody said kergoth was Chris Larson, a software engineer working for MontaVista in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM nazi, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. |
| 03:53.55 | ckknight | see, he's often an ass |
| 03:53.58 | ckknight | and a nazi |
| 03:54.43 | *** part/#wowace aen` (n=aen@cpe-65-25-19-175.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 03:55.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43966 10Parrot/ (Display.lua Parrot.toc ScrollAreas.lua): Parrot - added ScrollAreas.lua, separated from Display.lua |
| 03:58.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43967 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - now able to set what scroll area to output to. |
| 03:59.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43968 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - whoops, typo |
| 04:02.44 | RaydenUni | greatest thing ever: svn up instead of svn reinstall everything! |
| 04:02.54 | RaydenUni | all due to the absence of ctrl |
| 04:03.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43969 10Parrot/Triggers.lua: Parrot_Triggers - allow setting which scroll area to output to. |
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| 04:17.26 | syeren | ckknight, Parrot in Beta yet? |
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| 04:19.19 | Pkekyo | lmao, this is ridiculous...playing Splinter Cell 4...every time I get to a certain spot and stick my head up from the water, the fucking game crashes >.< |
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| 04:28.37 | raider|poul | can i disable the highlight of chatwindows in prat when mouse over |
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| 04:29.39 | raider|poul | http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4523/wowscrnshot071707062603fp0.jpg almost got it looking like i want :) |
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| 04:33.45 | ckknight | syeren: yes |
| 04:33.48 | ckknight | syeren: entered today |
| 04:33.59 | Bam__ | ckknight: just curious... what's the point of Pitbull.lua line 147-148? :) |
| 04:33.59 | ckknight | I want to add scroll area options |
| 04:34.07 | ckknight | Bam__: what's the lines say? |
| 04:34.15 | ckknight | and once I add that, I'll make a big fuss on the forums |
| 04:34.21 | Bam__ | t[''] = true |
| 04:34.36 | Bam__ | it's in the table pool thingy |
| 04:35.35 | loonacy | First it sets t[' '] to true, then to nil. |
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| 04:36.02 | Bam__ | your checking comment says it's a performance optimization :P |
| 04:36.22 | Bam__ | just curious if you found some odd behaviour |
| 04:36.58 | Funkeh` | later folks |
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| 04:38.44 | buu | So, er |
| 04:39.58 | Mec | for RegisterTranslations() do you need to have the full translation or will it default to the english one if not available? |
| 04:40.19 | buu | How on earth do I move the quartz casting bar? |
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| 04:42.18 | loonacy | buu: Do "/quartz", click Player, uncheck Lock, move the bar, recheck Lock. |
| 04:42.20 | NightHawkTheSane | unlock it. click and drag. |
| 04:43.03 | ckknight | Bam__: oh, it's a crazy luaism |
| 04:43.05 | ckknight | basically: |
| 04:43.17 | ckknight | local t = {} |
| 04:43.22 | ckknight | -- t is now 32 bytes |
| 04:43.30 | loonacy | buu: Also, if you're new to quartz, be sure to unlock and move the "Mirror" bar to where you want it, that's where your breathing and other things show up. |
| 04:43.31 | ckknight | for i = 1, 1000000 do t[i] = i end |
| 04:43.44 | ckknight | -- t is now 4000032 bytes |
| 04:43.52 | ckknight | for i = 1, 1000000 do t[i] = nil end |
| 04:43.59 | ckknight | -- t is now 40000032 bytes |
| 04:44.08 | Mikk | ^ dozens times slower than letting the GC eat it |
| 04:44.15 | ckknight | t[q] = true |
| 04:44.22 | ckknight | -- t is now 20 bytes |
| 04:44.23 | Bam__ | how odd.... |
| 04:44.24 | ckknight | t[q] = nil |
| 04:44.28 | ckknight | -- t is now 20 bytes |
| 04:44.45 | pakoz2 | yo |
| 04:44.46 | ckknight | Mikk: does the GC redo the table sizes? |
| 04:44.53 | pakoz2 | anyone fully understand how crushing works |
| 04:44.57 | pakoz2 | and how to get rid of it |
| 04:45.02 | pakoz2 | thats willing to spend a few mins with me |
| 04:45.12 | Mikk | pakoz2: i fully understand it. |
| 04:45.26 | NightHawkTheSane | http://evilempireguild.org/guides/crushing.php |
| 04:45.40 | Bam__ | ckknight: is that a well-known thing by the Lua-devs? Or something you discovered in WoW? |
| 04:45.52 | ckknight | well-known |
| 04:46.15 | Mikk | basically, it goes like this. for each hit you receive, wow constructs a table like this: miss, dodge, parry, block, crit, crush, hit |
| 04:46.29 | Mikk | if you ever hit 100% along the way, the rest never happens |
| 04:46.32 | ckknight | it's to be able to allow next to work while arbitrarily removing keys |
| 04:46.44 | ckknight | if you add something to the table, it then recalculates the keys and such |
| 04:46.56 | Mikk | so if you have 5% miss, 20% dodge, 20% parry, 65% block, you cannot get critted, crushed, nor normally hit |
| 04:47.17 | Mikk | err wtb math skill |
| 04:47.21 | Mikk | 5% 20% 20% 55% |
| 04:47.37 | Mikk | you cannot +def from crushes |
| 04:47.45 | Mikk | any mob that is 3 levels above you has a noticeable crushrate |
| 04:48.18 | Mikk | so, to avoid getting crushed, keep shieldblock up at all times |
| 04:48.25 | Bam__ | ckknight: is this only when the table contain only integer indices? Or any index type? |
| 04:48.31 | ckknight | any type |
| 04:49.11 | Mikk | or roll a pally for holy shield and redoubt goodness |
| 04:49.28 | Mikk | (supposedly, prot pallies have more crush avoidance than warriors) |
| 04:49.32 | Mikk | if you're a druid you're just plain screwed |
| 04:49.39 | Mikk | get shitloads of armor and stamina and hope to survive |
| 04:49.45 | Bam__ | I saw a Lua suggestion to introduce a table clearance primitive |
| 04:49.46 | Mikk | that's about it. questions? =) |
| 04:49.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: l2link, and let them read :P |
| 04:50.02 | loonacy | I heard a rumor that once you get your defense above 500 you get a new table, is there any truth to that? |
| 04:50.03 | Bam__ | that is, clear a table in one operation |
| 04:50.10 | NightHawkTheSane | loonacy: no. |
| 04:50.22 | Mec | the way AceEvent-2.0 works, is there a way to have it call a default function if the specific event-named function doesnt exist? |
| 04:50.37 | Mikk | you can tell it to call a given function |
| 04:50.50 | Mikk | 2nd argument |
| 04:51.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43970 10Parrot/TriggerConditions.lua: Parrot_TriggerConditions - bugfix with Pet Health Percent |
| 04:51.50 | pakoz2 | mikk |
| 04:51.52 | pakoz2 | i have some questions |
| 04:52.01 | ckknight | Mec: self:RegisterEvent("someEvent", "MyMethod") |
| 04:52.02 | Mikk | shoot |
| 04:52.09 | pakoz2 | using tank points, it shows me at 12% crushing |
| 04:52.17 | pakoz2 | im 24/20/34 |
| 04:52.19 | pakoz2 | 530 def |
| 04:52.20 | pakoz2 | 15k hp |
| 04:52.21 | Mec | ckknight: dur, i knew that.. i sware |
| 04:52.28 | Megalon | it's 15% vs lvl 73 mobs |
| 04:52.38 | Mikk | tankpoints is high on crack |
| 04:52.43 | ckknight | Mec: check the wiki next time |
| 04:53.33 | Mikk | basically, the only way for warriors to avoid getting crushed is to pop shieldblock |
| 04:53.34 | NightHawkTheSane | pakoz2: a) what kind of craptacular spec is that? b) given that you didn't say what your avoidance is, no one here could tell you how accurate that is. |
| 04:53.35 | Mikk | and keep it up at all times |
| 04:53.45 | Mikk | of course, speccing deep enough prot to get imp shieldblock is a must |
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| 04:53.59 | Mikk | but that certainly seems to be the case for you |
| 04:54.10 | NightHawkTheSane | well it's only a tier 3 talent |
| 04:54.12 | Mikk | NightHawkAtWork: nothing wrong with that spec for raid tanking tbfh... you need like 20something to get the important talents for raid tanking |
| 04:54.14 | pakoz2 | sry mikk |
| 04:54.24 | pakoz2 | im sry lol |
| 04:54.30 | pakoz2 | 24 dodge 20 parry 33 block |
| 04:54.33 | pakoz2 | 15k life |
| 04:54.38 | pakoz2 | 14.54 chance to be crushed |
| 04:54.39 | Mikk | lal |
| 04:55.05 | Mikk | haha i should have done the math.. i read that as a talent spec too |
| 04:55.12 | Mikk | except that'd mean you're level 86 |
| 04:55.16 | pakoz2 | heh |
| 04:55.26 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, oops. :) |
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| 04:55.27 | pakoz2 | hmm |
| 04:55.29 | Mikk | and what missrate? |
| 04:55.33 | Mikk | 5ish? |
| 04:55.45 | pakoz2 | 7.12 |
| 04:55.49 | NightHawkTheSane | 5+(530*.04) yeah? |
| 04:55.51 | pakoz2 | and i think mobs have a base of 5% miss |
| 04:56.08 | Mikk | yeah i think i see where tankpoints is getting that idea of crushing from |
| 04:56.16 | pakoz2 | 14.54 is wrong btw |
| 04:56.21 | pakoz2 | it should be lower |
| 04:56.25 | Mikk | it thinks youu're mitigating more than 85% of hits |
| 04:56.35 | Mikk | unfortunately, those are stats for getting hit by a level 70 mob |
| 04:56.40 | pakoz2 | nah |
| 04:56.46 | pakoz2 | the thing is set to 73 |
| 04:56.54 | pakoz2 | i guess its wrong >> |
| 04:57.26 | Mikk | anyway.. meh.. 530 def is a bit high tbh |
| 04:57.27 | Mikk | for raid tanking |
| 04:57.38 | Bam__ | when people define backdrops, they always seem to use a tile-size of 16... how come? |
| 04:57.49 | Mikk | better to aim for more armor and stamina. |
| 04:57.50 | pakoz2 | more def never hurt |
| 04:57.57 | Mikk | it does if you drop stamina |
| 04:58.06 | Pkekyo | "Defense from gear does not reduce your chance to take crushing blows" say wha? |
| 04:58.07 | Mikk | you kinda want 19k buffed for mobs like maulgar and gruul |
| 04:58.07 | pakoz2 | if i could choose my itemization |
| 04:58.12 | pakoz2 | heh |
| 04:58.15 | Megalon | pakoz2: perhaps your dodge/parry/block/miss sums up to > 85% |
| 04:58.22 | loonacy | Bam__: Powers of 2? |
| 04:58.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43971 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - rename partial effects to event modifiers, seeing as only a few things are partials. |
| 04:58.26 | pakoz2 | maulgar hits for like 2k =/ |
| 04:58.29 | pakoz2 | wtf do u need 19k for lol |
| 04:58.37 | Megalon | for an |
| 04:58.42 | Mikk | because his crush + cleave hurts a hell of a lot more? |
| 04:58.43 | Mikk | used to anyway |
| 04:58.45 | Megalon | arcing smash + hits |
| 04:58.46 | Bam__ | loonacy: yes, but there are more power of 2 than just 16 :D |
| 04:58.46 | Mikk | might have gotten nerfed to hell n back |
| 04:58.50 | pakoz2 | =/ |
| 04:59.03 | loonacy | 8 is too small and 32 is too big. |
| 04:59.10 | Pkekyo | I say again: "Defense from gear does not reduce your chance to take crushing blows" say wha? |
| 04:59.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: it doesn't. *shrug* what's more to know? |
| 04:59.33 | Mikk | Pkekyo: "unless you mitigate more than 85% of attacks" |
| 04:59.34 | Bam__ | well I guess my question boils down to... what does tile-size really do? :P |
| 04:59.47 | Pkekyo | nevermind, nevermind, I was thinking crits, not crushes |
| 04:59.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Defense only directly affects the crush rate if you're below your level max. (5*levle) |
| 05:00.16 | pakoz2 | hmm tank points parry/dodge/block doesnt match my character doll's PDB |
| 05:00.19 | NightHawkTheSane | s/le/el/ |
| 05:00.24 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 05:00.30 | Mikk | hahaa |
| 05:00.37 | Mikk | pakoz2: what does your paperdoll say? |
| 05:00.42 | Arrowmaster | is that your level or the level of the mob your fighting? |
| 05:00.46 | pakoz2 | what i linked before |
| 05:00.50 | Arrowmaster | or is it unknown |
| 05:00.51 | pakoz2 | 24/20/33 530 7.12 |
| 05:00.52 | Megalon | pakoz2: you have reduced parry/dodge/block vs bosses, as they have weaponskill > yourlvl * 5 |
| 05:01.06 | Mikk | and what is tankpoints saying? |
| 05:01.14 | pakoz2 | about 1-2% lower |
| 05:01.19 | Mikk | for each? |
| 05:01.22 | pakoz2 | roughly |
| 05:01.34 | Mikk | sounds about right.. damn hard to reach 85% mitigation |
| 05:01.37 | pakoz2 | but tank points shows me at 14.54 |
| 05:01.42 | pakoz2 | crushing |
| 05:01.44 | pakoz2 | with no buffs |
| 05:01.50 | Mikk | without sacrificing stuff like .. oh .. armor and stamina :P |
| 05:01.53 | pakoz2 | trinket 1 puts me at 0% |
| 05:02.00 | pakoz2 | trinket 2 puts me at .44% |
| 05:02.14 | pakoz2 | crush is a spike in damage |
| 05:02.24 | pakoz2 | to prevent spike deaths wiping out crush would be pretty imba |
| 05:02.45 | Mikk | yeah but they're kinda balancing gear around not being able to negate all crushes |
| 05:03.03 | Mikk | you're supposed to use shieldblock talent for that |
| 05:03.13 | Mikk | (and get mightily raped by bosses with thrash abilities like prince) |
| 05:03.18 | Mikk | (unless you're a pally :P ) |
| 05:03.20 | Pkekyo | that's 85% mitigation, excluding armor, no? |
| 05:03.23 | Mikk | yeah |
| 05:03.29 | Mikk | well |
| 05:03.32 | pakoz2 | thrash, earthquake |
| 05:03.33 | Mikk | not 85% DAMAGE mitigation |
| 05:03.43 | pakoz2 | theres tons of thinks that knock it off before 5 seconds go buy |
| 05:03.45 | Pkekyo | 85% full mitigation |
| 05:04.02 | Mikk | your full damage mitigation is around 50% |
| 05:04.03 | pakoz2 | then there is the GCD, human error, rage drained, latency |
| 05:04.15 | Mikk | blocks don't really knock that much damage off from inbound damage |
| 05:04.22 | Megalon | you always have to think that once you are stunned, all you hit avoidance goes 'bye bye' for that time ;) |
| 05:04.22 | Mikk | they're really only there to keep the hit from otherwise being a crush |
| 05:04.25 | pakoz2 | o.O |
| 05:04.33 | pakoz2 | i block for around 900 |
| 05:04.51 | pakoz2 | its pretty beast |
| 05:04.53 | pakoz2 | and its threat |
| 05:05.23 | Mikk | yeah but when you're being cunted in the face for 5k, 900 isn't that woohoo compared to negating all of it (miss/dodge/parry) is what i was saying |
| 05:05.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43972 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - make crit an event modifier, disabled by default (because crits become stickied). With this, you could make it so that all your crits appear as *64* or whatever you want. |
| 05:05.42 | pakoz2 | thats 20% damage reduction |
| 05:05.48 | Mikk | so anyway... you're mitigating something like.. what ... 60% of damage via skills |
| 05:05.49 | pakoz2 | after armor and debuffs |
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| 05:05.58 | Mikk | and then there's your armor n stuff |
| 05:05.59 | Mikk | yeah |
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| 05:06.18 | pakoz2 | ok |
| 05:06.33 | art3mis | hoowah |
| 05:06.40 | ckknight | hoowah? |
| 05:06.42 | pakoz2 | so how do i get to 0% crushing without using shield block |
| 05:06.49 | pakoz2 | 102% i seem to hear that number a lot |
| 05:06.51 | kaiden | Anyone know if cncfanatics has updated flexbar2 yet with a config panel or is it still all /slash based |
| 05:07.04 | Megalon | 102.4% when you sum up paperdoll values |
| 05:07.05 | Mikk | i really really doubt it's possible to reach 0 without shieldblock |
| 05:07.16 | Pkekyo | 102.4% what? |
| 05:07.18 | pakoz2 | i should say |
| 05:07.18 | art3mis | hoo-wah |
| 05:07.24 | art3mis | from scent of a woman |
| 05:07.25 | Megalon | sum of dodge/parry/miss/block |
| 05:07.26 | pakoz2 | without using the ability shield block |
| 05:07.33 | ckknight | art3mis: it's hooah, so you know |
| 05:07.47 | pakoz2 | so im at just over 85 |
| 05:07.57 | art3mis | hoo wah |
| 05:08.04 | pakoz2 | so after 87 if the point where you start reducing it |
| 05:08.05 | pakoz2 | right? |
| 05:08.06 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:08.08 | Megalon | because vs lvl73 you lose 0.6% at each, 4*0.6 = -2.4% and you would be still at 100% |
| 05:08.30 | Mikk | 87.4ish yeah |
| 05:08.32 | Megalon | should be yea |
| 05:08.40 | Pkekyo | shite, 7am allready >.< |
| 05:08.47 | ckknight | so it's not because 1024 = 2^10? |
| 05:09.07 | pakoz2 | hmm |
| 05:09.17 | pakoz2 | with raid buffs i'll prob be around 90 |
| 05:09.23 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: geek |
| 05:09.28 | Pkekyo | how to calculate the enemy's chance to miss you? |
| 05:09.28 | pakoz2 | need a few more items to get it gone |
| 05:09.48 | Mikk | i'm not sure i get why you're attempting this |
| 05:09.53 | Megalon | Pkekyo: 5% + paperdoll value i think |
| 05:09.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43973 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add "Sticky crit" option, on by default. |
| 05:09.54 | pakoz2 | i've told you already |
| 05:10.04 | pakoz2 | to avoid spike dmg |
| 05:10.15 | Mikk | well yeah, you don't want to be crushed |
| 05:10.17 | Pkekyo | paperdoll value? |
| 05:10.23 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I thought it was because Blizz was being cheap, easier to calculate 1024 than 1000 and all |
| 05:10.25 | Pkekyo | in english please? |
| 05:10.31 | Megalon | when you mouseover defense in you char frame |
| 05:10.33 | Mikk | well.. i wish you the best of luck in trying =) |
| 05:10.38 | pakoz2 | hmm |
| 05:10.48 | pakoz2 | if i have 90% added up via paper doll |
| 05:10.54 | pakoz2 | do i add in the 5% base miss they have? |
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| 05:11.16 | Arrowmaster | miss is effected by your defense |
| 05:11.16 | Mikk | is there even such a thing as 5% base miss? |
| 05:11.17 | Megalon | yes, paperdoll values don't count the standard miss rate |
| 05:11.26 | NightHawkTheSane | "affected" |
| 05:11.40 | Arrowmaster | some bosses miss more than 5%, like prince in phase2 |
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| 05:11.52 | pakoz2 | he attacks more |
| 05:12.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: yes, there is such a thing as 5% base miss :P |
| 05:12.01 | Mikk | aye that's doublewield shizzle |
| 05:12.10 | dreamss | i tought 5% miss rate was a player thing |
| 05:12.13 | dreamss | not npc |
| 05:12.14 | NightHawkTheSane | nope |
| 05:12.29 | NightHawkTheSane | mobs typically have 5% miss, crit, dodge, parry, block, iirc. |
| 05:12.35 | pakoz2 | ok |
| 05:12.44 | pakoz2 | so i guess fully buffed im at 7% crushing inc |
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| 05:12.49 | Arrowmaster | ive seen a druid get hit for a grand total of 6 times while tanking prince in phase2 |
| 05:12.56 | Mikk | lucky fuck :P |
| 05:13.19 | Arrowmaster | insane dodge too |
| 05:13.37 | dreamss | druids dont need a nerf? |
| 05:13.38 | dreamss | my ass |
| 05:13.40 | Pkekyo | FUCKING LOLADIN STEALING MY ORES! |
| 05:13.41 | Pkekyo | gah |
| 05:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, druids ahve that with their agi/14 or whatever dodge rate |
| 05:14.27 | Mikk | problem with relying on dodge is NOT dodging like 4 times in a row really isn't that uncommon over a multi-minute fight |
| 05:14.38 | Mikk | and then the feces hit the proverbial fan |
| 05:14.59 | Wobwork | (depending on how hard the tank gets hit) |
| 05:15.06 | Wobwork | (and whether he went to the toilet before the fight) |
| 05:15.09 | dreamss | aka blizz random gen aint that good |
| 05:15.12 | dreamss | like wf |
| 05:15.16 | Wobwork | NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE |
| 05:15.17 | Mikk | eh? |
| 05:15.23 | Mikk | lots of complaining about blizz random gen |
| 05:15.28 | Mikk | go stat some randomness |
| 05:15.34 | dreamss | cant |
| 05:15.45 | Mikk | getting the same number lots of times really isn't that unheard of |
| 05:15.58 | Wobwork | that's the thing about random number generators |
| 05:16.08 | Wobwork | It's difficult to tell if it's not random =) |
| 05:16.21 | dreamss | well, look at the old WF, wf double crits that 1 shot someone |
| 05:16.25 | dreamss | or a string of non wf |
| 05:16.30 | Wobwork | well |
| 05:16.33 | Wobwork | that's random, isn't it? |
| 05:16.35 | Mikk | well.. if it wasn't possible to get the same number lots of times, it wouldn't be random at all |
| 05:16.40 | Mikk | that's totally random |
| 05:16.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah i used to have an epic level rogue in a d&d game and got shit because i seemed to always roll lots of 6's on a d6 |
| 05:16.43 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:16.48 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, people who think blizz's random number generater sucks really don't understand RNGs |
| 05:16.51 | Wobwork | What you really want is non random |
| 05:16.59 | Wobwork | and just crit lots =P |
| 05:17.06 | Pkekyo | thing is...we can't really see wether or not something is random, even though we can think it...our brains are too much concerned about finding patterns and meanings in things... |
| 05:17.07 | Thrae | Mikk: Blizzard's Random generator works as so -- function WoWRand(raid) if IsPissed(raid) and WillBreakUpIfWiped(raid) then return rand(9999,9999) end return rand(1,9999) end |
| 05:17.23 | Wobwork | NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE |
| 05:17.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: that, and you simply can't know every roll the RNG is making, for every user on that server, for basically everything they do. |
| 05:17.30 | Mikk | or 33% critrate = crit, hit, hit, crit, hit, hit, crit, hit, hit |
| 05:17.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: http://xkcd.com/c221.html |
| 05:18.26 | Pkekyo | true, but even if you could, you would probably see it still as non-random...or brains simply "don't do random" ^^ |
| 05:18.57 | dreamss | dint there was a anti string of crits/random stuff system in place |
| 05:19.11 | Pkekyo | I hate random tbh...never seems to work in my favour :p |
| 05:19.23 | syeren | ckknight, how long until the latest version of Parrot is available via WAU :P? |
| 05:19.27 | syeren | 10 minutes? |
| 05:19.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Well true, but I prefer not to just "see" things. If i cared about it's randomness I'd run the results through a program to measure the distribution :P |
| 05:19.38 | Mikk | 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 |
| 05:19.40 | ckknight | syeren: yes, at maximum |
| 05:19.45 | Mikk | ^ that's the result of me flipping a coin 20 times |
| 05:19.49 | Mikk | doesn't look very random does it? |
| 05:19.53 | dreamss | wf got to the point were i could predict it heh |
| 05:20.11 | syeren | ckknight, all you need to do now is going back to finishing Pitbull :P! |
| 05:20.20 | Wobwork | http://www.etoan.com/random-number-generation/dilbert2001182781025.gif |
| 05:20.22 | ckknight | ugh |
| 05:20.27 | ckknight | Auras piss me off |
| 05:20.40 | ckknight | I didn't even write the positioning code |
| 05:20.58 | Fragger--- | asd |
| 05:21.12 | syeren | Sad part was ckknight, when you did, it was working amazingly well :P |
| 05:21.15 | syeren | Back in the old days :p |
| 05:21.18 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:21.38 | ckknight | you people kept wanting more features |
| 05:21.42 | ckknight | it's all your fault |
| 05:21.51 | syeren | I didn't. |
| 05:21.57 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: you would still have the same problem when your brain were to interpret the output from that program :< |
| 05:22.04 | syeren | I was all happy with Auras, then one day I had inivisble gaps and other stupid shit happening ;p |
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| 05:22.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: er, no? |
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| 05:23.15 | syeren | ckknight, Parrot better be upto your usual standards ;P |
| 05:23.22 | ckknight | oh, it is |
| 05:23.33 | ckknight | one day, I will fix auras |
| 05:23.36 | NightHawkTheSane | If you run a program to randomly generate 1-6 a couple million times, and count how many times each one occured, then output that, your brain is perfectly capable of discerning the relative distribution there :p |
| 05:23.38 | syeren | Amazing how quick you finished Cowtip. |
| 05:23.46 | syeren | Like 1-2 weeks and it was complete :P |
| 05:23.48 | hotmail12 | do u have to know alot about coding to make a mod? |
| 05:23.58 | ckknight | syeren: with only minor hacking after the fact |
| 05:24.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Seeing that 2,000,123 and 1,999,894 are fairly close is pretty straightforward. :P |
| 05:24.08 | ckknight | it's cause it's such a small app, with minimal features |
| 05:24.12 | ckknight | hotmail12: depends. |
| 05:24.15 | ckknight | hotmail12: it helps. |
| 05:24.17 | Bam__ | hotmail12: yes |
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| 05:24.24 | Mikk | assume "yes" |
| 05:24.26 | syeren | ckknight, well I guess your DogTag library is what made it really easy for you :p |
| 05:24.44 | ckknight | well, yes, but that's really only one module out of all of it |
| 05:24.50 | ckknight | it's the main one, though |
| 05:24.55 | ckknight | it's the one that sets it apart from the others. |
| 05:24.59 | syeren | What's after Parrot :P? |
| 05:25.06 | Bam__ | hotmail12: but if you are up for it, it can be a fine way to learn how to code :) |
| 05:25.28 | hotmail12 | i took visual basic if that helps any :-/ |
| 05:25.48 | Bam__ | no I'm afraid you will have to spend time unlearning that first :D |
| 05:25.51 | ckknight | syeren: I was thinking an art mod |
| 05:25.54 | ckknight | dunno, though |
| 05:26.02 | hotmail12 | how do i get started |
| 05:26.04 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt, visual basic shouldnt be considered a programing language |
| 05:26.08 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: true, but wether or not the numbers would 'feel' random is unsure, as your brain would still look for a pattern to explain the aledged randomness |
| 05:26.18 | syeren | ckknight, art mods are so dumb and excessive. |
| 05:26.20 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you're wrong, you know |
| 05:26.25 | ckknight | syeren: not if I pimp it out |
| 05:26.28 | durcyn | i still vote for secure radial buttons |
| 05:26.28 | syeren | I see all these people using eePanels and jsut wonder why -_- |
| 05:26.41 | ckknight | durcyn: I tried, it was beyond my reach |
| 05:26.42 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: yeah probably but im biased |
| 05:26.43 | syeren | "LOOK AT ME I HAVE POINTLESS GRADIANTS BEHIND MY POINTLESS ACTION BUTTONS I FUCKING ROCK." |
| 05:26.46 | syeren | "What's the point?" |
| 05:26.50 | syeren | "IT FUCKING ROCKS." |
| 05:26.52 | ckknight | dunno, I'm a minimalist |
| 05:26.54 | Bam__ | hotmail12: www.wowwiki.com is your primary resource |
| 05:26.56 | Pkekyo | like...you could find yourself thinking "this can't be random, there's too many fives!" even though the program was entirely correct |
| 05:27.01 | Diao | some people like functionality |
| 05:27.02 | Diao | some people like style |
| 05:27.05 | hotmail12 | ok |
| 05:27.10 | hotmail12 | thx guys :) |
| 05:27.13 | Bam__ | hotmail12: and www.lua.org |
| 05:27.18 | ckknight | hotmail12: start here: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 05:27.21 | ckknight | just go through it |
| 05:27.25 | syeren | Diao, it's the people who claim to make minimalist UIs and have that shit all over which is really annoying. |
| 05:27.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: er, no? What patterns? What's to explain when you -know- that over a few million iterations that statistically the number of occurences of any one item is iterations/total items? Once you reduce it to that level, it's just straight numbers, and there's no patterns to see. |
| 05:27.30 | ckknight | don't speak it channel till you're done |
| 05:27.38 | syeren | "How is it at all minimalist if you have excessive art and features?" |
| 05:27.42 | syeren | "BECAUSE IT LOOKS NICE." |
| 05:27.45 | Bam__ | lol @ ckknight |
| 05:27.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Unless you're the kind of person who stares at "98%" and "102%" and tries to figure out precisely why one is 4% higher than the other? which is kind of dumb. |
| 05:28.01 | ckknight | what? too many people don't do that |
| 05:28.05 | pakoz2 | ._. |
| 05:28.12 | Bam__ | hotmail12: get a better nickname too hehe |
| 05:28.22 | ckknight | hotmail12: yea, I agree with Bam__ |
| 05:28.29 | ckknight | even though Bam__ has excessive underscores |
| 05:28.41 | dreamss | yeah bam needs a better nick :P |
| 05:28.41 | Bam__ | somebody stole Bam!!!! |
| 05:28.47 | dreamss | learning ajax.. fun |
| 05:28.50 | syeren | ckknight, a classic example of this is the guy you got interviewed by from OMGPHATLOOTS. |
| 05:28.59 | ckknight | howso? |
| 05:29.03 | syeren | "I create minimalist UIs with action buttons and excessive amounts of Art." |
| 05:29.06 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: what you're saying is completely correct, but your brain would still try to find a pattern...it's what it does.... |
| 05:29.09 | ckknight | link |
| 05:29.15 | Bam__ | it's the problem with having a short nick... it's always taken :( |
| 05:29.22 | ckknight | Bam__: get a better one |
| 05:29.24 | syeren | ckknight: http://omgphatloots.org/UI/Saeto1/Saeto1.jpg |
| 05:29.26 | syeren | Classic example. |
| 05:29.31 | Bam__ | ckknight: NEVAH! |
| 05:29.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: well, maybe you're brain is overzealous, but I don't see patterns like that. |
| 05:29.43 | syeren | No one needs action buttons if they keybind, and if they don't keybind then they shouldn't be creating that shit. |
| 05:29.46 | ckknight | syeren: looks fine to me, the art isn't excessive |
| 05:29.49 | syeren | And there is no purpose for that shit. |
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| 05:29.57 | ckknight | just creates borders |
| 05:30.04 | Bam__ | ckknight: this nick has a story that goes back to when I was 1-2 years old :) |
| 05:30.08 | syeren | ckknight, any form of information which has no need to be displayed is excessive if it is intended to be minimalist. |
| 05:30.20 | dreamss | i have 7 bars on my screen, ppl hate my ui |
| 05:30.33 | dreamss | dam totems :( |
| 05:30.46 | sergio | does anyone know how long seer olum lasts |
| 05:31.25 | syeren | Well, you could say that the gradients aren't information, but as far as your thalamus is concerned, it is. |
| 05:31.37 | syeren | And when people start to understand that, they may actually do what they intend to do with success. |
| 05:32.24 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: ofcourse you don't, I guess noone does...but as your brain always keep looking for pattenrs, that randomness still won't seem completely correct... |
| 05:32.24 | Pkekyo | say...you're listening to your mp3 player...playing in shuffle mode...but you notice a pattern: it plays alot of steely dan! <--- that's the kind of thing I'm talking about |
| 05:32.49 | Bam__ | dreamss: umm people can't see your ui.. so why the hate? :P |
| 05:33.11 | Pkekyo | even though it's mathematically 100% random, your brain still looks for the pattern, and find one that seems logical |
| 05:33.34 | Pkekyo | ok, shitty explanation on the last one there, but hope you'll catch my drift... |
| 05:33.46 | Arrowmaster | but its not 100% random |
| 05:33.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: At which point I chalk it up to the inherent nature of randomness. It may very well be playing a lot of Steely Dan (althogh in my case, that would be extremely odd, as I don't have any Steely Dan :P), but at no point does it even remotely enter my consciousness that it's any kind of non-random pattern. |
| 05:34.05 | Arrowmaster | random numbers generated by a computer are not 100% random |
| 05:34.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: meh, close enough for discussion. :P |
| 05:34.14 | art3mis | well that was moderately amusing |
| 05:34.22 | dreamss | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/dreamss/WoWScrnShot_062207_180717.jpg |
| 05:34.24 | dreamss | heh |
| 05:34.45 | Megalon | btw patterns: http://youtube.com/watch?v=shdErPjtjK8 ! |
| 05:34.46 | art3mis | just bought a new spindle of cd's and burned off a disc, then fergot to remove the top layer plastic which came apart in my dvdr |
| 05:34.47 | Bam__ | just like it seems when you search for something, you ALWAYS find it the last place you look :D |
| 05:34.49 | Pkekyo | all I've got to say to you now nighthawk...l2steely dan! :p |
| 05:34.49 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkAtWork: if its a cheap mp3 player i would say its possible that its not random |
| 05:34.51 | Mikk | PRNG generated numbers are certainly close enough to the real thing that there's no way in hell a human brain can differentiate them |
| 05:34.53 | art3mis | so i got to take it all apart ;P |
| 05:35.16 | dreamss | lol |
| 05:35.16 | art3mis | including the drive |
| 05:35.30 | NightHawkTheSane | dreamss: what's that window displaying target, count, and c/d of earth shield? |
| 05:35.33 | Bam__ | which is kinda obvious.. since you stop searching when you have found it :D |
| 05:35.43 | dreamss | earthshield tracker |
| 05:35.47 | dreamss | which OWNS BALLS |
| 05:35.58 | art3mis | funny' |
| 05:36.08 | art3mis | thats what nighthawk keeps claiming hedoes |
| 05:36.13 | Mikk | i had an incident a few weeks ago where i was using xlootmaster's "give to random person" feature for greens |
| 05:36.13 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.20 | Mikk | ended up givin the same mage something 5 or 6 times in a row |
| 05:36.24 | Mikk | people told me i couldnt use it anymore |
| 05:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: dammit, i paid you good sex not to tell anyone. |
| 05:36.29 | syeren | dreamss, your UI reminds me of when I started Molten Core with CTRA. |
| 05:36.38 | syeren | You're a couple of years behind us all :P! |
| 05:36.42 | art3mis | sorry snoogums |
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| 05:36.47 | dreamss | yeah actually i am |
| 05:36.54 | Mikk | i went back and did some stats.. turns out that it'll in fact happen every few hundred raids or so |
| 05:37.06 | dreamss | i only took raiding ceriusly after 2.0 |
| 05:37.07 | Mikk | and well we've been playing for 2 and a half years |
| 05:37.22 | Bam__ | when you guys work on addons, do you stay logged in with the same char at the same spot for hours too? :P |
| 05:37.24 | Mikk | then i rewrote xlootmaster's random distribution function so it's not random anymore |
| 05:37.30 | Mikk | Bam__: ofc =) |
| 05:37.44 | dreamss | dosent it use /random ? |
| 05:37.50 | Bam__ | gotten funny remarks from other people too? :P |
| 05:38.09 | Mikk | Bam__: i've helped start 8 guilds, gotten lots of gold, and a full set of level 10 greens from some random dude :P |
| 05:38.16 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 05:38.17 | NightHawkTheSane | dreamss: got a link to that earthshield tracker? wowi's search sucks. |
| 05:38.21 | dreamss | i guess u could do random to give a person a number 1-5 tehn /random 5 |
| 05:38.27 | dreamss | i can dcc it |
| 05:38.30 | art3mis | linux mint is rather pretty |
| 05:38.31 | dreamss | u want? |
| 05:38.39 | Mikk | dreamss: aye, but then you'll get that situation again where you end up giving shit to the same guy lots of times |
| 05:38.48 | dreamss | it be harder |
| 05:38.51 | Bam__ | well I was asked by somebody how old I was... he thought I must be in trouble since I never leveled beyond level 6 :D |
| 05:38.55 | Mikk | the "randomness" function i wrote keeps track of what it's rolled recently and reduces the chance of it happening again |
| 05:39.02 | dreamss | also u could eliminate each person as they win |
| 05:39.03 | NightHawkTheSane | dreamss: sure, though i'd rather have a link to wherever it's hosted. :) |
| 05:39.05 | dreamss | from the list |
| 05:39.12 | dreamss | and add them after everyone wins something |
| 05:39.15 | Mikk | yeah, there's a coefficient in there |
| 05:39.23 | Mikk | if you pull it up to the max, that's what'll happen |
| 05:39.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: so its less random and more weighted random? |
| 05:39.42 | Mikk | yeah |
| 05:39.48 | dreamss | or /random (/random x + /random y) :P |
| 05:39.48 | Mikk | and people perceive it as a lot more random |
| 05:39.49 | Mikk | funny that |
| 05:39.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: patterns. ;) |
| 05:40.03 | Mikk | yep |
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| 05:40.25 | NightHawkTheSane | people have a predisposed opinion that random is necessarily equal distribution. |
| 05:40.43 | dreamss | that is true |
| 05:40.43 | Bam__ | you know those books they used in the old days that listed random numbers? |
| 05:40.46 | Mikk | yeah but that's because it is on the grand scale |
| 05:41.10 | Mikk | it's just that with a small enough sample set, "random" really is _random_ :P |
| 05:41.13 | Bam__ | somebody made a statistic and concluded that the most random number was 17 :) |
| 05:41.21 | dreamss2 | u get the dcc? |
| 05:41.22 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 05:41.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: sure, but you can't look at the grand scale while it's happening. :P |
| 05:41.50 | Pkekyo | why the hell have a book that lists random numbers? |
| 05:42.00 | kaiden | Mikk, it's impossible for a computer to create a truely random number though |
| 05:42.00 | NightHawkTheSane | dreamss2: yeah, doesn't appear to be connecting though |
| 05:42.02 | Mikk | because people suck at coming up with them |
| 05:42.05 | dreamss2 | OH |
| 05:42.06 | Bam__ | before computers were common I guess |
| 05:42.07 | dreamss2 | fuck |
| 05:42.08 | Wobwork | so you can randomly flip a page and randomly choose a number? |
| 05:42.18 | Mikk | kaiden: i know this very well thankyou |
| 05:42.32 | dreamss2 | reinstalled mobo today.. forgot to setup the new mac as my dchp static ip :P |
| 05:42.32 | kaiden | sorry i just jumped into the tail end of the conversation |
| 05:42.33 | Mikk | kaiden: but it's still a hell of a lot better than a human trying to come up with a random series of numbers =) |
| 05:42.33 | Wobwork | it's kinda impossible for people to generate random numbers too |
| 05:42.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: if by kinda, you mean totally. :P |
| 05:42.55 | Wobwork | we'd eventually fall into a pattern =P |
| 05:42.56 | syeren | ckknight, PM :p |
| 05:43.07 | dreamss2 | what in RL is random? |
| 05:43.09 | dreamss2 | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5579/ |
| 05:43.20 | Wobwork | chaos |
| 05:43.24 | Mikk | there's lots of stuff in real life that's random |
| 05:43.27 | NightHawkTheSane | dreamss2: thanks. |
| 05:43.32 | Bam__ | dreamss2: I am pretty sure my ex-girlfriend was completely random :P |
| 05:43.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Bam__: women are always random. |
| 05:43.40 | dreamss2 | hehe |
| 05:43.47 | Mikk | heck, even timings between keypresses are random to a degree if you go to a small enough scale |
| 05:43.52 | Pkekyo | EVERYTHING in real life is random, just depends on the viewpoint you take... |
| 05:43.53 | NightHawkTheSane | you want true RNG? ask a girl what mood she's in. |
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| 05:44.04 | Pkekyo | but basically everything is a series of 'random' events |
| 05:44.08 | Wobwork | There are always constants with women though |
| 05:44.18 | Wobwork | like the answer to "does this make my arse look fat" |
| 05:44.19 | kaiden | Pkekyo, actually nothing is random |
| 05:44.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: yeah. "crazy", "psychopathic", "bitch" :P |
| 05:44.24 | dreamss2 | u could find patterns on women |
| 05:44.29 | kaiden | Pkekyo, there's always something that chooses how something happens |
| 05:44.38 | dreamss2 | kai my point :P |
| 05:44.42 | Bam__ | Wobwork: well there is NO good answer to that :P |
| 05:44.43 | kaiden | there's very little in the universe that is really random |
| 05:44.54 | Wobwork | That's pretty constant, don't you think? =) |
| 05:44.59 | Mikk | OFF TOPIC! =P |
| 05:45.06 | Wobwork | we had a topic? |
| 05:45.20 | Bam__ | yea but it's a quite random topic |
| 05:45.26 | Mikk | ouch >.< |
| 05:45.30 | Pkekyo | kaiden: yes, but with infinite possibilities, it's rather random how things turn out |
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| 05:46.09 | Pkekyo | ofc it's "every action has a reaction" and all that stuff, but still... |
| 05:46.13 | kaiden | Pkekyo, not much of a math person are ya? :) |
| 05:46.35 | Pkekyo | well, I know 1+1 and 2 times 2... |
| 05:46.39 | art3mis | its every action has anequal and opposite reaction |
| 05:46.41 | dreamss2 | tell me one thing on earth thats random |
| 05:46.44 | Pkekyo | I'll settle with that for now |
| 05:46.56 | art3mis | hehe that reminds me of a song lyric that stuck in my head today |
| 05:47.01 | Mikk | dreamss2: quark states. insofar that they're not predictable. |
| 05:47.06 | art3mis | "i'll believe in god when 1 and 1 are 5" |
| 05:47.14 | Mikk | shit scales up from there :P |
| 05:47.38 | Bam__ | Einstein disagreed! |
| 05:47.48 | art3mis | quark states arent random |
| 05:47.54 | art3mis | liarhead |
| 05:48.02 | art3mis | muons on the other hand....... |
| 05:48.10 | ckknight | dreamss2: radioactive decay |
| 05:48.23 | art3mis | again not random |
| 05:48.26 | Pkekyo | did I join #harward or something? >.< |
| 05:48.32 | art3mis | they follow statistical probability ;P |
| 05:48.35 | ckknight | harvard |
| 05:48.40 | dreamss2 | <-- learning |
| 05:48.42 | ckknight | art3mis: well, I supposee |
| 05:48.43 | ckknight | suppose* |
| 05:48.47 | Bam__ | no #random-chat |
| 05:48.48 | Pkekyo | same shit |
| 05:49.00 | Mikk | erm art3mis, randomness also follows statistical probability |
| 05:49.02 | art3mis | granted without the right amount of input data it seems random |
| 05:49.04 | Mikk | what's your point? o.O |
| 05:49.12 | art3mis | heh mikk |
| 05:49.29 | art3mis | the only thing thats truely random is pi |
| 05:49.39 | ckknight | that's not random |
| 05:49.42 | Pkekyo | ok, final word of this discussion: either everything is random, or nothing is |
| 05:49.46 | ckknight | that's irrational |
| 05:49.47 | NightHawkTheSane | how is pi random? |
| 05:49.50 | art3mis | or rather its decimal places |
| 05:49.58 | art3mis | hahamikk |
| 05:50.02 | ckknight | it has infinite decimal places |
| 05:50.05 | art3mis | i was reading scientific america today |
| 05:50.10 | art3mis | no ckk |
| 05:50.13 | Mikk | that's true for e also :S |
| 05:50.15 | art3mis | it has an undefined ;P |
| 05:50.18 | Pkekyo | I had the impression that was a infinite, but static number...? |
| 05:50.30 | kaiden | ckknight, well.. as far as we understand it has infinite decimal places |
| 05:50.31 | kaiden | lol ;) |
| 05:50.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: it is. it's a non-terminating non-repeating decimal. |
| 05:50.33 | ckknight | it's irrational |
| 05:50.40 | art3mis | just because we havent hit the repeat point doesnt make it infinite |
| 05:50.45 | kaiden | it very well might not we dont know since they haven't finished calculating it |
| 05:50.51 | ckknight | it's non-terminating. |
| 05:50.53 | dreamss2 | dint someone made a rng out of small radiation ? |
| 05:50.54 | ckknight | therefore, infinite |
| 05:50.54 | dreamss2 | heh |
| 05:51.07 | art3mis | this guy was talking about quantum mechanics in this article about entangled pairs and triplets |
| 05:51.15 | Pkekyo | layman's terms please? :> |
| 05:51.16 | Bam__ | I believe some state somewhere determined by law that pi was 4... because it was so much easier to work with :D |
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| 05:51.30 | dreamss2 | heh? |
| 05:51.35 | Mikk | dreamss2: you can buy true RNG usb dongles for pocket change. they'll work off of oscillations and variations in various semiconductors. |
| 05:51.55 | art3mis | and the guy writing it said of this one physist "he has basically fits the hitchikers guide of quantum mechanics being the answer, much like 42, we just don't know what the question was" |
| 05:52.18 | art3mis | ckk: again just because we havent hit the end doesnt mean there isnt an end |
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| 05:52.30 | ckknight | ...no |
| 05:52.33 | vithos | art3mis: no |
| 05:52.33 | art3mis | yes |
| 05:52.57 | ckknight | art3mis: http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~hr/numb/pi-irr.html |
| 05:53.04 | Megalon | art3mis: Pi is irrational and also transcendental ;) |
| 05:53.09 | vithos | you can't prove a number is irrational by trying to find where it repeats, but there are actual ways to prove it |
| 05:53.09 | art3mis | laugh |
| 05:53.28 | art3mis | and phi? |
| 05:53.39 | dylanm | You can prove it's transcendental. First year theoretical stuff. |
| 05:54.08 | ckknight | art3mis: phi is (sqrt(5)+1)/2, and since sqrt(5) is irrational, phi is therefore irrational |
| 05:54.13 | Mikk | omg math proofs |
| 05:54.14 | art3mis | dylan everyone knows that pie is transcendental ;P |
| 05:54.23 | dreamss2 | smartest talk in irc i seen for a while |
| 05:54.24 | dylanm | <-- Mathematician and necessarily a pedant. |
| 05:54.25 | dreamss2 | heh |
| 05:54.31 | Mikk | i've so forgotten everything about that stuff |
| 05:54.33 | Mikk | and don't want to remember |
| 05:54.41 | dylanm | Nah you don't :) |
| 05:54.43 | dylanm | Drives people nuts |
| 05:54.46 | art3mis | heh i only know the theoretical side |
| 05:54.51 | art3mis | im horrible at math |
| 05:54.58 | NightHawkTheSane | alright, This conversation just hit the geekiness level for me, you're starting to lose me here. ;) |
| 05:55.06 | dylanm | My department is full of very strange people. |
| 05:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | mostly be cause i was never very good at high level math. >< |
| 05:55.24 | art3mis | nighthawk: do to feynman.org |
| 05:55.30 | art3mis | and watch all the videos ;P |
| 05:55.35 | NightHawkTheSane | meh :P |
| 05:55.35 | art3mis | THAT will drive you to drink |
| 05:55.42 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: what if i'm already at that point? :P |
| 05:55.52 | art3mis | it involves math but rf was amazing |
| 05:55.56 | dylanm | Whenever I go teach in the chem dept. it's striking how normal everyone is. I really think the long hours of pondering drives people batty. |
| 05:56.04 | art3mis | night: think multiple homocides ;P |
| 05:56.21 | art3mis | dylan: you ever read a book called Zero ? |
| 05:56.26 | dreamss2 | ooh dyl can i ask a question? |
| 05:56.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: monte carlo problem? if that's what I'm thinking of, it's not overly complex. :P |
| 05:57.14 | Mikk | Nah, I know. It just stubs your brain :P |
| 05:57.14 | dylanm | art3mis: No sir :( |
| 05:57.24 | art3mis | dylan: you might find it nerdily good |
| 05:57.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: yeah, its real quirky |
| 05:57.34 | Megalon | i only know the monte carlo algorythm |
| 05:57.35 | art3mis | its basically the history of 0 |
| 05:57.47 | Megalon | like miller-rabin |
| 05:57.47 | art3mis | and how to describe something that is nothing |
| 05:58.04 | art3mis | its avery good read |
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| 05:58.40 | dylanm | NightHawkTheSane: The problem of the delicious yet fattening sandwich? |
| 05:58.43 | art3mis | the fermat book was pretty good too |
| 05:58.57 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: i think you're talking about a monte cristo. |
| 05:58.59 | Mikk | noooooo, we're NOT talking books by fermat here! ain't happening! |
| 05:59.00 | Mikk | ~lart art3mis |
| 05:59.00 | purl | slaps art3mis upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 05:59.01 | NightHawkTheSane | but i could be wrong |
| 05:59.10 | art3mis | a^x+b^y=c^z |
| 05:59.16 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:59.20 | art3mis | fermat was awesome! |
| 05:59.20 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c60.html <-- my hobby too |
| 05:59.21 | *** part/#wowace Mikk (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 06:00.04 | Bam__ | art3mis: bah.. he cheated the world into believing he had proved the theorem :P |
| 06:00.19 | Megalon | who knows ;) |
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| 06:00.40 | dylanm | NightHawkTheSane: Heh can't remember. Made them last year with my roommates at like 1am because we were bored and Rachel Ray had just made some on the television. I don't usually try to emulate her but exceptions were made. |
| 06:00.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: http://xkcd.com/c259.html <--- my hobby :P |
| 06:00.48 | art3mis | bam: heh and whats your reasoning behind that? |
| 06:01.07 | Megalon | http://xkcd.com/c287.html mine |
| 06:01.08 | art3mis | i mean aside from the fact that he used that string theory torus proof ? ;) |
| 06:01.08 | Megalon | >:< |
| 06:01.35 | art3mis | without looking why am i guessing that nighthawk picked the "shopping for wierd combinations of things |
| 06:01.37 | Bam__ | he made a note in the margin saying that he had found a wonderful proof but this margin was too small to write it :) |
| 06:01.45 | art3mis | OH! |
| 06:01.49 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: no, but now that you mention it, that too ;) |
| 06:01.49 | art3mis | you mean fermat himself |
| 06:02.02 | Bam__ | and people have struggled ever since with the problem hehe |
| 06:02.07 | art3mis | i thought you meant that guy who proved the last theorm a couple years ago |
| 06:02.08 | Megalon | Bam__: Fermat did know how to tease :P |
| 06:02.16 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 06:02.55 | art3mis | richard feynman is still my hero |
| 06:03.15 | art3mis | anyone who makes drawrings to explain quantum mechanics and they get known as the peguin drawrings rules |
| 06:03.19 | art3mis | penguin |
| 06:03.33 | Pkekyo | FUCKING SMELLY NIGHTELF HUNTARDS |
| 06:03.39 | vithos | Pkekyo: you rang |
| 06:03.50 | Pkekyo | >.< |
| 06:04.35 | kaiden | you know i've heard people say drawrings before.. but i dont think i've ever seen them even type it that way |
| 06:04.36 | Pkekyo | ganked one of them for stealing my mineral node, so now 4 of them are corpsecamping me >.< |
| 06:04.39 | kaiden | ;P sorry art3mis i had to |
| 06:04.41 | kaiden | :) |
| 06:08.28 | art3mis | kaiden my name is simon what can i say ;) |
| 06:08.28 | CIA-22 | 03elandril * r43974 10Manufac/Manufac-deDE.lua: |
| 06:08.28 | CIA-22 | Manufac: |
| 06:08.28 | CIA-22 | - Added various missing translations for the german locale |
| 06:08.28 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the umlaut in the german translation of "vendor" |
| 06:08.28 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c91.html <-- another thing that requires total geekiness |
| 06:08.28 | kaiden | haha |
| 06:08.28 | kaiden | i miss muds :( |
| 06:08.28 | art3mis | i do sometimes |
| 06:08.31 | Wobwork | I kinda do |
| 06:08.32 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, i say that, but every once in a while i go back to one of my old favorites. it's just not the same, i can't get into them anymore |
| 06:08.37 | art3mis | then i rememeber how much i hated the mindless exping over and over |
| 06:08.42 | Wobwork | I had a lot of fun being a cre on a discworld mud |
| 06:09.02 | art3mis | i imp'd a godwars |
| 06:09.07 | NightHawkTheSane | O |
| 06:09.09 | art3mis | that was achore in a half |
| 06:09.27 | art3mis | buggie shitty code to start with imbalances classes out the ass |
| 06:09.32 | art3mis | and the fucking danes |
| 06:09.33 | kaiden | Legend Of the Red Dragon |
| 06:09.35 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i'd rather just find a mush/moo or something and do freeform rp than actually mud |
| 06:09.53 | kaiden | back in the 300 baud days ;) |
| 06:11.23 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43975 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment: Added some color to the window report menu |
| 06:11.24 | Bam__ | art3mis: WHAT'S WRONG WITH DANES? |
| 06:11.28 | Bam__ | :P |
| 06:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they're danes for one. >.> |
| 06:11.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 06:12.32 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 06:12.32 | Bam__ | :( |
| 06:12.32 | art3mis | hehe keeping them from exploiting bugs was a full time job ;P |
| 06:12.32 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c100.html <-- OCD |
| 06:12.33 | art3mis | they used to come and cause shit on mine cuz i kept banning them for exploiting shit |
| 06:13.00 | art3mis | they ran on the same host so one day i hacked in aspecial auto imp command for myself and demoted them all til they gave in ;P |
| 06:13.29 | Bam__ | art3mis: hehe... how long ago was this? |
| 06:13.55 | Bam__ | might have been when there really only was one host in Denmark :D |
| 06:14.06 | art3mis | about 5 years ago now |
| 06:14.13 | art3mis | sundered realms was the GW i ran |
| 06:14.35 | Bam__ | ah ok... well then it was probably students from the Technical University :P |
| 06:14.41 | Bam__ | geeks all along :P |
| 06:14.50 | Thrae | function OCD() OCD() end |
| 06:15.04 | ckknight | lol, Thrae |
| 06:15.18 | Thrae | God, we are such all geeks. |
| 06:15.19 | art3mis | i found my drive with my original source on it too |
| 06:15.51 | Thrae | Especially since my first thought after writing that was "Hmmm, now what does the impending stack overflow represent?" |
| 06:15.56 | Mikk | think i have it on my old 200meg scsi drive :S |
| 06:16.16 | Mikk | ^ huge stuff, that. expensive it was too. |
| 06:20.01 | Mec | how would i find out if a function exists? if type(self.funcname) == "function" doesnt seem to work |
| 06:20.37 | Mikk | where do you expect the function to live? |
| 06:20.37 | art3mis | wow wilderness in a circle? |
| 06:20.42 | art3mis | nice |
| 06:21.03 | Mec | inside the file |
| 06:21.16 | Mikk | not inside your addon table? |
| 06:21.23 | Mikk | just a global function? |
| 06:21.28 | Mikk | if so type(funcname)=="function" |
| 06:21.41 | Mec | its not global i dont think its Addonname:function |
| 06:22.35 | Mikk | how about you try to describe what you're trying to do and where this function is coming from? |
| 06:22.37 | Mikk | are you creating it? |
| 06:22.38 | Mikk | if so, how? |
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| 06:23.08 | Mikk | where are you testing for its existance? |
| 06:23.22 | Mikk | and why? =P |
| 06:23.23 | Mec | the function and the test are inside Core.lua |
| 06:23.47 | Mikk | wait.. is funcname a string? |
| 06:23.53 | Mec | yes |
| 06:24.03 | Mikk | if so you want type(self[funcname])=="function" |
| 06:24.14 | Mikk | with self.funcname you're looking for a function named exactly "funcname" |
| 06:24.21 | art3mis | ever guzzled down a big glass of ice cold water and gotten a brain freeze?> |
| 06:24.22 | Mec | ah ok, over in #lua i was told to do self.funcname |
| 06:24.33 | Mikk | they probably didn't understand what you were asking either |
| 06:24.53 | Mikk | art3mis: ohyah |
| 06:24.57 | Mec | thanks |
| 06:24.58 | Thrae | Mec: They were using "funcname" to mean "replace the name of the function with this" |
| 06:25.18 | Mec | ya i realize that now, like i told them programming where functions are variables is a little confusing still ;p |
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| 06:26.13 | Sole | hey guys |
| 06:26.27 | Bam__ | hmm... the minimap model stops displaying when swithcing between windowed mode and fullscreen.. anyone else experience that? |
| 06:26.39 | Mikk | nop |
| 06:26.49 | Mikk | (and i do it lots) |
| 06:27.04 | Bam__ | are you on Windows? |
| 06:27.09 | Mikk | yups |
| 06:27.18 | Bam__ | hmm could be a Mac client bug then |
| 06:27.26 | Mec | I've had it before, dunno what causes it tho |
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| 06:28.26 | theoddone33 | how long does the buff from killing matheridon last? |
| 06:29.19 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r43976 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (Reminder/Reminder.lua SimpleSelfRebuff.lua locale-enUS.lua): |
| 06:29.19 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 06:29.19 | CIA-22 | - fixed Reminder setting glitches, |
| 06:29.19 | CIA-22 | - added support for all MikSBT areas (MikSBT support is still not complete). |
| 06:29.28 | TheKarn | http://xkcd.com/c162.html |
| 06:29.42 | art3mis | spider pig spider pig does whatever a spider pig does |
| 06:30.02 | art3mis | my wife asked me why every guy i talk to thinks that the best part of the trailer |
| 06:30.22 | TheKarn | trailer? |
| 06:30.27 | art3mis | and all i could answers was because as guys we've done that with cats and dogs and hummed or sang that EXACT song |
| 06:30.34 | art3mis | the simpsons movie trailer |
| 06:30.40 | TheKarn | ah yeah |
| 06:31.00 | art3mis | 10 days! |
| 06:31.57 | Sole | do bucket events function the same as normal events in terms of finding a method to execute? |
| 06:32.27 | Sole | can I simply do self:RegisterBucketEvent("UNIT_HEALTH", 0.5) or would I have to indicate that it should also use the UNIT_HEALTH() method? |
| 06:32.34 | art3mis | "thats what i love about earth, you can dowhat you want because no one cares" |
| 06:34.46 | art3mis | oh did anyone watch daily show tonight? |
| 06:38.33 | Bam__ | oops... it was my own doing.. I had some code that repositioned the minimap... apparently not quite the right way :P |
| 06:45.48 | TheKarn | http://xkcd.com/c26.html <-- damnit why did that make me laugh? i feel so ... alone. |
| 06:53.57 | Mec | lol |
| 06:54.11 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c111.html <-- it's true! you must BELIEVE in your browser or you'll get spyware! |
| 06:54.34 | Mec | i hope the dr elizabeth isnt referencing something, but i thought the joke was funny |
| 06:55.10 | Jumoor | anyone familiar with how to write new statuses for grid? |
| 06:57.15 | TheKarn | i laughed two-fold |
| 06:57.27 | TheKarn | first when i found it funnny, then i laughed at myself for understanding it. |
| 06:59.25 | TheKarn | http://xkcd.com/c72.html |
| 06:59.53 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:59.57 | Wobwork | class-hole |
| 07:00.01 | art3mis | http://xkcd.comc282.html |
| 07:00.07 | art3mis | http://xkcd.com/c282.html |
| 07:00.16 | art3mis | i always snicker at how bad that one is |
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| 07:00.29 | TheKarn | lol |
| 07:01.16 | Wobwork | I would have answered "You, sir, are the reason we can't have nice things =(" |
| 07:01.40 | Arrowmaster | this sites perty sweet www.wowmetrics.com |
| 07:01.49 | art3mis | http://xkcd.com/c246.html |
| 07:02.28 | art3mis | http://xkcd.com/c242.html <- would react the same way ;P |
| 07:02.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:03.22 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c123.html <-- geeeeeky |
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| 07:04.54 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r43977 10Sphere/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Sphere: - and yet more optimization |
| 07:05.19 | TheKarn | http://xkcd.com/c101.html |
| 07:05.43 | art3mis | http://xkcd.com/c217.html <- WAAAAY more geeky if you laugh |
| 07:07.28 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c132.html <-- this is why I don't even try to fake my total lack of knowledge about popular music |
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| 07:16.51 | TheKarn | http://xkcd.com/c116.html |
| 07:18.33 | Xuerian | XD |
| 07:23.44 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c138.html <-- anyone old enough to remember cheating using stuff like Action Replay and geeky enough to understand what "pointers" are should laugh at this |
| 07:24.03 | Xuerian | game genie ftw |
| 07:24.07 | TheKarn | lol |
| 07:24.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 07:27.53 | Thrae | If you really want the geekiness of a Mac experience, might as well save yourself a hell of a lot of money and install FreeBSD or Linux. Otherwise, you're basically using a Windows look-alike overtop of a sodomized BSD. |
| 07:27.57 | art3mis | sphere is pretty awesome |
| 07:28.23 | Mec | mmmm sodomized BSD |
| 07:28.48 | art3mis | mmm sodomy |
| 07:29.08 | starlon | butt secks! |
| 07:30.18 | Mec | speaking of butt sekcs, what does SRA do exactly |
| 07:30.36 | art3mis | Special Rape Assist |
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| 07:31.39 | TheKarn | i was thinking of trying MacOSX on my AMD |
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| 07:32.28 | ckknight | I like my Mac |
| 07:32.51 | TheKarn | just to give the proverbial "up-yours" to fruitzilla |
| 07:33.51 | TheKarn | I'll soon be Quint-booting Vista/XP/FreeBSD/Ubuntu/MacOSX |
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| 07:34.49 | _x_ | does may ass look skinny in this? |
| 07:35.20 | Benumbed | no |
| 07:35.45 | TheKarn | <+_x_> |
| 07:35.48 | TheKarn | drop your voice |
| 07:35.49 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43978 10Links/Links.lua: Links: Comparison windows should appear now when pressing shift while hovering any Links tooltip |
| 07:36.16 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c142.html <-- I couldn't stand Megatokyo's gayness after a while, and --I-- read Shoujo |
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| 07:38.07 | TheKarn | hmm i suppose i should go to work |
| 07:38.19 | TheKarn | flexitime is great |
| 07:38.44 | Benumbed | getting bored with secure headers, they are the devil |
| 07:39.00 | TheKarn | i get up at 6:30 thinking "great ... i'll get in early and leave at 4pm" then sit at the computer for 2 hours and think "damn." |
| 07:39.16 | Benumbed | heh |
| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43979 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | - make sure itemlinks exist before handling them |
| 07:42.00 | TheKarn | damnit i want to get back into WoW. Guild isnt raiding atm. And my realm has gone to shite. |
| 07:42.27 | Benumbed | sounds like my server |
| 07:42.35 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43980 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: bugfix Vashj charge trigger in frFR. Thanks antarus |
| 07:42.44 | Benumbed | 3 guilds competing for server first and still in ssc =x |
| 07:42.58 | TheKarn | we have 1 guild on our realm in SSC |
| 07:43.08 | TheKarn | and a joint venture in SSC on the alliance side |
| 07:43.12 | Benumbed | well the eye also, but w.e |
| 07:43.42 | Benumbed | Void Reaver is a joke, so is fathomlord |
| 07:43.50 | Benumbed | free t5 if you ask me |
| 07:45.39 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c149.html <-- just don't sudo me |
| 07:46.24 | TheKarn | Thrae: sudo /part |
| 07:46.38 | art3mis | what server benumbed? |
| 07:46.48 | Benumbed | thunderlord |
| 07:47.08 | TheKarn | http://xkcd.com/c157.html |
| 07:47.19 | Thrae | sex.sh == who; last; pause; grep; touch; unzip; mount /dev/girl -t wet; fsck; fsck; fsck; fsck; yes; yes; yes; umount /dev/girl; zip; rm -rf wet.spot; sleep; finger: Permission denied |
| 07:48.19 | Benumbed | rofl wtf |
| 07:48.24 | Benumbed | Got an email, apparently I played too much and sold too many flasks b/c I've been accused of economic exploitation. Something similar happened to Somnolent apparently. Bottom line is I got a 3-day suspension; see ya'll in a few. |
| 07:48.36 | Benumbed | wtf is blizzard doing now a days |
| 07:48.47 | TheKarn | seriously |
| 07:48.53 | dreamss2 | not uncommon |
| 07:48.57 | TheKarn | that has to be posted somewhere |
| 07:49.07 | Benumbed | Somnolent is me, hes a guildie of mine |
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| 07:49.22 | Benumbed | got one of my accts banned for having too much money |
| 07:49.39 | TheKarn | they cant seriously tempban people for grinding in the game. |
| 07:49.41 | Benumbed | was just another acct i kept money on in case my main acct was ever hacked |
| 07:49.42 | Thrae | Benumbed: Have you ever tried writing in to have them re-consider? |
| 07:49.52 | Benumbed | it got perma banned |
| 07:49.59 | Benumbed | and yes, i have done everything |
| 07:50.04 | Benumbed | not been reversed |
| 07:50.04 | Thrae | Even called in? |
| 07:50.14 | Benumbed | you cant call that division |
| 07:50.22 | Thrae | Called in + spoke to manager |
| 07:50.36 | Benumbed | tried and they tell you that that division can only be emailed and fax'd to |
| 07:51.06 | Benumbed | all i did was have another acct that i hardly logged on, had a lvl 1 toon to hold my money |
| 07:51.25 | Benumbed | but apparently cause it was lvl 1 and had 21k gold...i was a gold selling site |
| 07:51.30 | dreamss2 | fucking gold farmers are fags |
| 07:51.46 | Benumbed | didnt even check to see that money only went between my two accounts |
| 07:51.55 | Thrae | Well, you paid X amount of money for that account, and spent X amount of time gathering virtual currency validly, according to Blizzard's core rules. Therefore, according to recent court cases, what Blizzard essentially did was fine you without reason, and you're entitled to your virtual currency back. |
| 07:52.03 | Benumbed | then they ban him for selling too many flasks? wtf |
| 07:52.40 | cryogen | surely actual gold sellers dont go to that much trouble to get their account back :) |
| 07:53.08 | dreamss2 | all blizzard is gonna say "were doing it to get rid of gold farming" and tell u to fuck off |
| 07:53.09 | dreamss2 | geg |
| 07:53.11 | Benumbed | i faxed in an id and everything |
| 07:53.23 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43981 10CraftList2/ (CraftList2.lua localization.lua): |
| 07:53.23 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 07:53.23 | CIA-22 | - added a toggle to disable whispers monitoring |
| 07:53.45 | Benumbed | i mean all they would have to do is check that money didnt get sent to 5k accounts if i was gold selling |
| 07:53.57 | Benumbed | too hard, ban button clearly way easier |
| 07:54.02 | Thrae | Benumbed: It was a "pre-emptive strike" |
| 07:54.16 | Benumbed | well this was 3 weeks ago |
| 07:54.35 | Benumbed | he got his tonight, but at least his only 3 day |
| 07:54.38 | Thrae | Benumbed: If they traced the money, they could have gone back to your other account, and if your other account ever received money greater then say 100g, they could think you're trying to launder the money |
| 07:55.02 | Benumbed | i am trying to launder the money, for in case i get hacked lolz |
| 07:55.14 | Thrae | How the hell did you get 21,000 gold anyway? |
| 07:55.25 | Benumbed | gold so easy |
| 07:55.36 | Benumbed | but was one of server first jewelcrafters |
| 07:55.50 | Benumbed | mined 300-400 ore a day and prospected, sold gems on AH |
| 07:56.08 | Benumbed | before talasites went for 8g like they do now, qq |
| 07:56.38 | Thrae | Benumbed: You should find a cheap/pro-bono lawyer and pay 'em to write a threatening letter in psuedo-legalease. Or better yet, just do it yourself and put some fake lawyer caption on it. |
| 07:57.02 | Thrae | Benumbed: You'll just have to double-check the laws and TOS to make sure your legalease actually makes -sense- |
| 07:57.03 | Benumbed | I am gonna fax once more and then give up |
| 07:57.06 | Benumbed | just not worth it |
| 07:57.22 | Benumbed | all they did was save me 14.95 a month |
| 07:57.29 | Thrae | Benumbed: I'll fax for you if you give me half of the 21,000 ;) |
| 07:57.32 | Benumbed | and just make me not farm as much |
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| 07:58.23 | Benumbed | they want photo id and crap, notarized if fax |
| 07:58.34 | Benumbed | even had it faxed at notary, didnt seem to help |
| 07:58.56 | Benumbed | mailed in a copy as well |
| 07:59.09 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43982 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: correct an erroneous translation. |
| 07:59.11 | Benumbed | so dumb, you cannot talk to that division on the phone |
| 07:59.15 | Mec | is there a way to collect multiply returned values in a list automatically? |
| 08:00.02 | pastamancer | Mec: I don't think you want what you're asking for |
| 08:00.44 | Mec | for the purpose of debugging and experimentation i do >:D |
| 08:00.50 | Mec | >;p |
| 08:00.58 | Mec | dang they dont have any good smiley for what i want to do :x |
| 08:01.02 | pastamancer | results = { function(args) } -- should work then |
| 08:01.11 | Mec | sweet, thanks |
| 08:01.32 | pastamancer | caveat though |
| 08:01.35 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c150.html <-- so I'm not the only one who thinks it would be cool to do something like filling their room half-way with water |
| 08:01.54 | pastamancer | results = { f1(args1), f2(args2) } -- collapses f1 to one arg |
| 08:02.04 | pastamancer | err one return value |
| 08:02.25 | pastamancer | Thrae: <3 xkcd |
| 08:02.49 | Mec | I'm just using 1 function, so hopefully shouldnt be a problem |
| 08:03.04 | pastamancer | with one function, things don't get too wierd |
| 08:03.28 | pastamancer | Fisker-: I didn't do it! |
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| 08:04.45 | pastamancer | I'm still waiting for someone with more free time than me to test Roster-2.2 |
| 08:04.46 | Fisker- | you did :( |
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| 08:09.30 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c154.html <-- this is why the Daily Show can make me cry |
| 08:10.22 | Mec | when i hear people of power say such things i die a little inside |
| 08:12.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43983 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add throttling of HoTs and DoTs. |
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| 08:13.29 | pastamancer | every now and then the daily show gives me hope |
| 08:14.18 | Thrae | ckknight: http://xkcd.com/c156.html <-- no offense, but I thought of you |
| 08:15.01 | ckknight | lol |
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| 08:15.33 | pastamancer | Thrae: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAHUHDoZWQY |
| 08:15.51 | ckknight | Ron Paul ftw |
| 08:16.10 | Xuerian | amen and goodnight |
| 08:20.44 | NM|Xinhuan | sigh how come my floating chat frames become unlocked sometimes after playing wow a while? |
| 08:22.12 | ckknight | unlocked? |
| 08:22.24 | NM|Xinhuan | yeah - where you can move/resize it |
| 08:22.29 | NM|Xinhuan | accidentally |
| 08:22.39 | syeren | WTB Bhattu. |
| 08:22.47 | NM|Xinhuan | like you right click the chat tab and choose "lock window" |
| 08:23.01 | NM|Xinhuan | after a few sessions of wow, it somehow gets unlocked |
| 08:23.10 | NM|Xinhuan | and you could accidentally resize or move it |
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| 08:25.57 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c169.html <-- I am glad I am not the only one who felt this way during the fad |
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| 08:27.53 | Sole | so the console command for my new addon is /cock o_0 |
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| 08:28.38 | Sole | Thrae: lol |
| 08:29.02 | Grum | geez banned for having too much money? |
| 08:29.25 | Grum | oh .. right .. note to self .. scroll down so not to react on stuff from hours or even days ago ;D |
| 08:29.30 | abbat_w | I know some ppl who get ban for having too much money |
| 08:29.42 | Grum | how much money do they have then? |
| 08:29.47 | Grum | in my scrollback i found 21k |
| 08:29.52 | abbat_w | ~5k before TBC |
| 08:29.53 | Grum | but really, it's not that hard to get that |
| 08:30.01 | abbat_w | and one after tbc with about 15k |
| 08:30.12 | Grum | especially with the dailies and some alts doing them as well |
| 08:30.23 | Grum | you can get ~100g per day on dailies alone cant you? |
| 08:30.32 | abbat_w | ~150 ;) |
| 08:30.37 | Grum | 150 even then :) |
| 08:30.43 | Grum | i havent really started on that |
| 08:30.50 | Grum | but then you get 4.5k per month |
| 08:31.07 | Grum | have 1 alt doing that as well .. 9k |
| 08:31.15 | abbat_w | I like daily quests system btw |
| 08:31.21 | abbat_w | No need to farm etc. |
| 08:31.41 | Codayus | I know of several guild banks that had that kind of cash at certain points during vanilla. |
| 08:31.46 | Grum | and with the upcoming patch you can already prepare the dailies one day ahead, taking all quests you can and handing them in whenever you can |
| 08:31.57 | Codayus | Basically in the post-AQ pre-Naxx phase. |
| 08:32.05 | Grum | yeah some guild had ~70k before TBC orso O.o |
| 08:32.14 | abbat_w | oh |
| 08:32.17 | abbat_w | 70k ;) |
| 08:32.25 | abbat_w | incredible summ ;) |
| 08:32.27 | Grum | totally ridiculous amount ofc |
| 08:32.44 | Grum | you can completely dominate the AH with that kind of cash making craploads of more mone |
| 08:32.46 | Grum | *money |
| 08:32.56 | Codayus | Sell AQ20 books, T1 BoEs, elementium, and slots in BWL runs...nothing much to spend it on since C'Thun didn't require raid-wide flasks. |
| 08:33.14 | Codayus | Then they all went broke during Naxx |
| 08:33.23 | Grum | resistgear etc =D |
| 08:33.42 | Grum | atm the moneystrain doesnt come from potions and such |
| 08:33.45 | Grum | mostly from enchants |
| 08:33.58 | Codayus | Or Loatheb. |
| 08:34.17 | Grum | 'oh new pants' ... 8 primal water, 8 primal life, 1 nether, 3 nightseyes .. sigh :) |
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| 08:34.40 | Codayus | Who soaked up rediculous amounts of consumables every week, farm status or no... |
| 08:34.52 | Grum | i havent done those instances |
| 08:35.00 | Grum | actually just recently went into BWL for my first time :) |
| 08:35.03 | Codayus | Neither, but I'm a little bit familiar with it. |
| 08:35.11 | Codayus | My guild downed Nefarion the week before TBC came out. |
| 08:35.19 | Codayus | We're pretty casual. |
| 08:35.21 | Grum | and i have to say . how the fekkin hell did they do the supression room with 40 on lvl60 .. that is just madness |
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| 08:35.38 | Grum | and firemaw .. omg |
| 08:35.49 | Codayus | Grum: Not that bad actually. With 40 people, it's only a little harder than the big room at the end of BRD. |
| 08:35.56 | Grum | hmm k |
| 08:35.56 | Codayus | The mobs are *easy* you just have to keep moving. |
| 08:36.08 | Grum | we did it with 10 and it was kinda doable |
| 08:36.13 | Grum | firemaw was somewhat hard |
| 08:36.18 | Codayus | Firemaw...do you know the trick? |
| 08:36.27 | Grum | as was the first boss .. i ended up kiting 30-40 mobs myself =D |
| 08:36.34 | Codayus | If you do the positioning right, healers never get hit by the aura. |
| 08:36.35 | Grum | yeah, LoS i suppose? |
| 08:36.37 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 08:36.43 | Grum | like you used to do Prince? ;D |
| 08:36.50 | Grum | before they made the door close ;D |
| 08:37.02 | Codayus | Then if you have a couple of competent tanks to taunt him back and forth, Firemaw is actually easy, just long... |
| 08:37.08 | Codayus | Sorry, not sure. |
| 08:37.17 | Codayus | We always faunt Prince in his room. :-) |
| 08:37.20 | Grum | ah well with 2 healers it was quite a strain :P |
| 08:37.22 | Codayus | er, fought |
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| 08:37.44 | Grum | we did it with LoS pre-nerf and once the regular way |
| 08:37.52 | Grum | tbh i think prince should not be so random |
| 08:38.02 | Grum | we occasionally wipe there but we have the place on farm for eons O.o |
| 08:38.19 | Codayus | Yeah, the firemaw setup at 60 was something like... 5 healers on the MT, 5 on the OTs, 2 on the raid or so? I didn't lead BWL raids so I'm drawing a blank on normal class mix now. |
| 08:38.28 | Grum | :) |
| 08:38.42 | Grum | i'm not even attuned to Naxx atm O.o |
| 08:38.46 | Grum | never seen any AQ |
| 08:38.54 | NM|Xinhuan | if i have a "/use 14" macro, how do i make the button icon show the icon of whatever trinket is equipped in slot14 at the moment? |
| 08:39.01 | Grum | seen first 5 bosses of ZG i think (till tiger one) |
| 08:39.06 | Codayus | Let's see, I think we normally took...15 healers...so.... 7 MT, 5 OT, 3 raid I think. |
| 08:39.15 | Codayus | NM|Xinhuan: Currently bugged, wait for next patch. |
| 08:39.16 | Grum | NM|Xinhuan: use the '?' icon |
| 08:39.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43984 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add options to throttling. |
| 08:39.21 | Grum | oh .. nice bugged .. sigh |
| 08:39.23 | NM|Xinhuan | it just shows "?" |
| 08:39.27 | abbat_w | ckknight! |
| 08:39.30 | ckknight | yes? |
| 08:39.37 | abbat_w | parrot gone to production state? :) |
| 08:39.41 | ckknight | yep |
| 08:39.45 | abbat_w | nice nice |
| 08:39.47 | ckknight | reached beta |
| 08:39.57 | Grum | one line 'explanation' of parrot please :D |
| 08:40.05 | ckknight | ~parrot |
| 08:40.05 | purl | rumour has it, parrot is the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/, or a floating combat text addon for WoW |
| 08:40.10 | Codayus | It'll eat your crackers! |
| 08:40.22 | Grum | SCT done ace? :) |
| 08:40.23 | abbat_w | =) |
| 08:40.29 | Diao | sct is ace ;) |
| 08:40.32 | Diao | msbt done ace :P |
| 08:40.33 | Grum | liees! |
| 08:40.34 | ckknight | Grum: more similar to MSBT, but yea |
| 08:40.46 | ckknight | SCT doesn't carry the spirit of ace |
| 08:40.56 | Grum | indeed :D |
| 08:41.01 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: did you notice that the health/power bar does not display correctly on Cowtip when "Enable text" is unchecked? |
| 08:41.05 | Grum | neither does Baggins btw ;D |
| 08:41.19 | ckknight | pb_ee1: no |
| 08:41.22 | ckknight | didn't notice that |
| 08:41.35 | pb_ee1 | I had this bug two days ago, dunno if it has been fixed |
| 08:41.50 | ckknight | nothing I did |
| 08:42.41 | Sole | hmm |
| 08:42.43 | Sole | strange |
| 08:42.47 | Diao | oh |
| 08:42.58 | Sole | Im getting macro text being sent as unit tokens |
| 08:43.03 | abbat_w | ckknight, i have small bug maybe in PitBull |
| 08:43.08 | Sole | from two seperate addons |
| 08:43.40 | abbat_w | ckknight, if you are in raid and someone leave you party, PitBull mark last party member with yellow square raid mark |
| 08:43.48 | Grum | lol :P |
| 08:43.55 | ckknight | oh yea, I've seen that |
| 08:43.55 | Diao | ckknight not sure if it's a blizzard issue but i tested disabling all addons and the tooltip shows up normally when i mouseover the target unitframe while having a player targetted, then when i enable cowtip, the tooltip no longer displays, but it shows correctly when i target an npc |
| 08:44.15 | ckknight | alright, too many people bothering me |
| 08:44.18 | ckknight | I'm gonna go |
| 08:44.21 | Grum | hehe |
| 08:44.24 | Diao | :( |
| 08:44.27 | abbat_w | good luck, ckknight |
| 08:44.29 | Diao | cya |
| 08:44.33 | Grum | just put up the idle-hat! |
| 08:44.49 | pb_ee1 | abbat_w: haaaaa thanks for this bug report, i was still thinking "what the hell does this yellow raid mark mean??" |
| 08:45.12 | Grum | WTB Pet support in Grid O.o |
| 08:45.12 | abbat_w | pb_ee1 ;) same for me ;) |
| 08:45.37 | dodgizzla | Grum: Currently being hacked in by jerry iirc |
| 08:45.39 | Grum | oh and WTB 'target' in pitbull castbars :P |
| 08:45.53 | Grum | so i can see what the spell will hit |
| 08:45.59 | Grum | so i can bigbrother on our slacking healers a bit more ;D |
| 08:46.05 | abbat_w | Grum |
| 08:46.11 | abbat_w | Targets now not informative |
| 08:46.22 | Grum | not the selected target ofc |
| 08:46.23 | abbat_w | Bacause you can cast something to focus target |
| 08:46.25 | Grum | but the target of the spell |
| 08:46.30 | abbat_w | because sorry ;) |
| 08:46.36 | pb_ee1 | abbat_w: true ;) |
| 08:46.45 | Grum | i'd recon that that information is stored if you are casting a spell |
| 08:46.46 | abbat_w | I don't think you can detect true spell target now |
| 08:47.01 | Grum | i never target something and heal that |
| 08:47.10 | pb_ee1 | and how would you know who is the target? |
| 08:47.21 | Grum | their wow-client knows |
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| 08:47.26 | abbat_w | For example i can target you but cast spell on another target w/o changing my current target |
| 08:47.27 | Grum | so why not my client? |
| 08:47.28 | pb_ee1 | the only way i see is to check the target of the caster when you catch the event of the spell |
| 08:47.47 | pb_ee1 | and thus |
| 08:47.49 | Grum | not really, i can select nothing all evening and still be a perfect healer :) |
| 08:48.12 | pb_ee1 | it means that it is possible (even if hard) that the caster changed target between the moment he casted the spell and the moment you receive the even |
| 08:48.13 | pb_ee1 | event* |
| 08:48.19 | pb_ee1 | grum: true :p |
| 08:48.27 | Grum | and i kinda always do that |
| 08:48.39 | pb_ee1 | so how would i know on who you are casting your spell if you do not have any addons installed? |
| 08:48.41 | Grum | i always check up on other people .. other healers ;D |
| 08:48.50 | abbat_w | And btw, mage counterspell instant. Be sure on arenas mage or lock's pet set you as his focus target. And then you start heal... pff, counterspell ;) |
| 08:48.50 | Mikk | pb_ee1: you can't |
| 08:48.57 | pb_ee1 | that's the point |
| 08:49.02 | Grum | pb_ee1: again, my wowclient knows it .. so why cant you see that? |
| 08:49.20 | Mikk | because lua isn't the wow client |
| 08:49.28 | pb_ee1 | so it's useless to code an addon that cannot be used 100% of the time :P (my 2 cts) |
| 08:49.37 | Grum | yeah i agree |
| 08:49.48 | Mikk | though tbh it's doable with lots of cheating |
| 08:49.50 | Grum | just curious why events dont get thrown with a 'target' in it |
| 08:49.53 | Mikk | resurrection monitors do it |
| 08:49.57 | abbat_w | ok ok |
| 08:50.04 | Mikk | by checking what your current mouseover target is |
| 08:50.12 | syeren | Does anyone have any experience of working with CandyBar here :P? |
| 08:50.15 | Grum | Mikk: hehe |
| 08:50.16 | syeren | Help would be appreciated :p |
| 08:50.24 | syeren | WTB [Ammo] :p |
| 08:50.25 | Mikk | syeren: some |
| 08:50.39 | syeren | Prepare for Spam in PM! |
| 08:50.42 | abbat_w | maybe someone here play by mage and want to code simple addon which show Water Elemental pet 'time to live' bar with Candybars? :) |
| 08:50.47 | Mikk | (i hope you've read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar first ) |
| 08:50.52 | syeren | I have done. |
| 08:51.02 | Grum | abbat_w: isn't that kinda easy? |
| 08:51.22 | Grum | start a bar when you summon it and euuuh ... let it run out? :) |
| 08:51.33 | Grum | you can prolly macro it ;D |
| 08:51.42 | abbat_w | I think it's easy, but i never code addon for wow, only make some hacks of other addons |
| 08:52.23 | Grum | :) |
| 08:52.29 | abbat_w | Grum, yep. If i found addon which can draw 'custom' bars. Like 'barAddon:StartBar('Water Elemental', 45)' ;) |
| 08:52.45 | Mikk | That's kinda what candybar is |
| 08:52.46 | Grum | humz DBM or BW should be able to do that :) |
| 08:52.54 | dodgizzla | abbat_w: Quartz_Timer |
| 08:52.57 | Grum | and CandyBar provides a generic interface |
| 08:53.04 | abbat_w | Oh! |
| 08:53.07 | abbat_w | dodgizzla! |
| 08:53.09 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r43985 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: zhTW translation updated |
| 08:53.12 | dodgizzla | Yes! |
| 08:53.16 | abbat_w | Ahaha! |
| 08:53.24 | abbat_w | Sure, Quartz_Timer help me ;) |
| 08:53.33 | Grum | or use: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar |
| 08:53.34 | abbat_w | damn |
| 08:53.44 | Grum | seems really straightforward as well :P |
| 08:54.32 | pb_ee1 | . /script Kill("Magtheridon"); Loot(); |
| 08:54.35 | dodgizzla | Grum: Yeah but registering a CandyBar and stuff is way more complicated than /quartztimer <time> <text> :> |
| 08:54.59 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.04 | dodgizzla | Actually, Quartz_Timer probably does that exact thing, but you get the point :D |
| 08:55.04 | Mikk | woohoo |
| 08:55.17 | Grum | Mikk: i'd recon it was that easy :D |
| 08:55.36 | dodgizzla | Mikk: Where will that bar show up? |
| 08:55.42 | Mikk | middle of the screen i think |
| 08:55.46 | abbat_w | Somewhere on frame ;) |
| 08:55.51 | dodgizzla | Yeah, exactly where I want it... :> |
| 08:56.06 | Mikk | yep. smack in the middle |
| 08:56.23 | dodgizzla | So I need to put SetCandyBarPoint also in there |
| 08:56.28 | abbat_w | =) |
| 08:56.42 | Mikk | didn't you want it in the middle? |
| 08:56.49 | dodgizzla | It's not like one would be running out of characters in a macro that way.. :D |
| 08:57.03 | abbat_w | macro have restriction to 255 chars. i think you run out this limitation |
| 08:57.26 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.45 | Grum | humz it seems really easy tbh :) |
| 08:57.56 | Grum | i should start thinking about making some addons ;D |
| 08:58.10 | Grum | what's the worst part of making addons? :P |
| 08:58.14 | pb_ee1 | coding :p |
| 08:58.16 | Grum | next to the users ofc ;D |
| 08:58.38 | pb_ee1 | hummm i would say manage ALL situations |
| 08:58.50 | Grum | from what i see, you cant really make a 'good' developer env |
| 08:58.51 | pb_ee1 | it's very hard to think about all of them when you start coding |
| 08:58.51 | dodgizzla | Debugging, Testing, Maintaining, Handling WoW's API, ... :D |
| 08:59.12 | Grum | well handling wows api is mainly done by ace libs |
| 08:59.12 | pb_ee1 | well, coding an addon is the worst part of coding an addon ;p |
| 08:59.18 | abbat_w | First off, need to take good addon 'template' with comments ;) |
| 08:59.25 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:59.28 | Mikk | ^ moves it up 100 pixels |
| 08:59.49 | abbat_w | My macro for summon elemental is about 100 chars now |
| 08:59.55 | Grum | :P |
| 09:00.02 | abbat_w | If i put this text i run out 255 chars ;) |
| 09:00.06 | pb_ee1 | humm Mikk, i would have do SetPoint() before Start() |
| 09:00.09 | dodgizzla | Mikk: 132 chars for just that? So the rest of the macro must be <123 chars :D |
| 09:00.22 | Mikk | tell that to abbat_w, he can't count |
| 09:00.23 | pb_ee1 | or will it produce an error? |
| 09:00.35 | Mikk | you can setpoint whenever you want to |
| 09:00.52 | abbat_w | Anyway it's very good idea also |
| 09:01.02 | dodgizzla | Ah whatever.. there are a gazillion ways to accomplish that :D |
| 09:01.03 | abbat_w | Mikk, which texture candybar use by default? |
| 09:01.10 | dodgizzla | Choice is a great thing. Sometimes :P |
| 09:01.17 | abbat_w | My UI bars uses 'charcoal' for all bars |
| 09:01.27 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.29 | Mikk | ^smaller |
| 09:01.42 | Grum | humz is there any up to date 'tutorial' somewhere on starting on addon coding? just with the basics of the screen layout (UIparent is nice but how does it work exactly? :P) and well ..some other basic stuff? :) |
| 09:01.58 | abbat_w | Anyway i try to make an addon. Want to see how it be ;) |
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| 09:02.19 | abbat_w | Grum, wowwiki, UI section |
| 09:02.24 | krka | wowwiki <3 |
| 09:02.29 | krka | also get devtools |
| 09:02.33 | cryogen | abbat_w: make it support shadowfiend too ;) |
| 09:02.34 | krka | and wowlua :) |
| 09:02.34 | Mikk | And http://www.wowace.com/index.php/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 09:02.48 | abbat_w | Good docs about ui customisation / coding |
| 09:02.57 | Grum | *copy paste* into notes to self document :P |
| 09:03.21 | abbat_w | krka, wowlua released today, already dled ;) |
| 09:03.25 | Grum | atm when i log in, it takes like 1 min to actually get ingame |
| 09:03.30 | abbat_w | Btw guys |
| 09:03.36 | abbat_w | Gello release ItemRack 2.1 |
| 09:03.37 | Mikk | Grum: unembed |
| 09:03.37 | Grum | that is not really 'workable' when you have to reloadui all the time |
| 09:03.50 | Mikk | ah, no |
| 09:03.51 | abbat_w | But no FuBar_ItemRackFu for 2.1 ;) |
| 09:04.00 | krka | Grum: turn off all other addons when developing |
| 09:04.10 | Mikk | Grum: Get ACP, lets you toggle sets of addons back and forth |
| 09:04.22 | Grum | oh that works for all addons? |
| 09:04.25 | Mikk | yes |
| 09:04.33 | Grum | ah we're getting somewhere :P |
| 09:04.43 | Mikk | and yeah you want lean & mean for development |
| 09:04.48 | Mikk | live and die by reloadui times |
| 09:04.56 | abbat_w | Hmm... acp allow me to make 'addon profiles'? |
| 09:05.01 | Grum | yeah low cycle times promote fast development :P |
| 09:05.14 | Mikk | abbat_w: yes |
| 09:05.15 | abbat_w | I mean i can setup some profiles with differents addons? |
| 09:05.18 | abbat_w | Oh, nice |
| 09:05.30 | Mikk | Click "Sets" button in the lower left corner. Save & Load. |
| 09:05.52 | Mikk | You can work with groups also, by disabling all loaded addons and then loading in different groups that you want |
| 09:06.14 | Mikk | Like a "raid" group, a "questing" group, a "storage char" group |
| 09:06.55 | Thrae | !t http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=330716307&postId=3001687257&sid=1#0 <-- support my wish to allow leveling via PvP (w/ protection for twinks) |
| 09:06.56 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/2aw5y8 <-- support my wish to allow leveling via PvP (w/ protection for twinks) |
| 09:07.01 | krka | i reload in like 3 seconds |
| 09:07.05 | Mikk | The only thing I hate about it is that the "Save" command comes before the "Load" command |
| 09:07.08 | krka | except when wow crashes |
| 09:07.10 | krka | stupid wine :P |
| 09:07.26 | krka | wow hangs a lot for me with wine, especially when i change workspaces back and forth |
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| 09:08.09 | Thrae | I just saw WoWLua...makes me want to start playing WoW again to test my addons |
| 09:08.17 | Fisker- | Thrae no twink protection, ever! |
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| 09:09.23 | Thrae | I was going to say something else, but then I realized it was stupid. Damn 5am. |
| 09:09.35 | Thrae | At least it's not 6am -- then I would have said it anyway. |
| 09:10.44 | abbat_w | Ahah ;) |
| 09:10.47 | Azurewrath | btw. what is the best way to run unembedded when updating via SVN? Should i just omit all externals and use !!!StandAloneLibraries, or would that result in Errors? |
| 09:10.49 | Fisker- | k |
| 09:11.00 | Fisker- | i'm gonna post JB and CP in that thread Thrae |
| 09:11.16 | abbat_w | I think best time to make addons it's while you do corpse run ;) |
| 09:11.29 | Mikk | Azurewrath: if you're using svn to download libs, you need to download each one manually |
| 09:11.44 | Mikk | and then omit all externals |
| 09:12.00 | Mikk | "!!!StandAloneLibraries" is a hack to make WAU download stuff |
| 09:12.07 | Mikk | doesn't work for SVN |
| 09:12.41 | Mikk | Thrae: 5am? that's nothing. it's stupid o'clock here. |
| 09:12.53 | Grum | <Mikk> Like a "raid" group, a "questing" group, a "storage char" group <-- does that really cut down loading times when you change chars to some kinda of mule alt? |
| 09:12.55 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r43986 10ACP/ACP.toc: ACP: Fill in some toc fields |
| 09:13.24 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar |
| 09:13.25 | Mikk | Grum: lots |
| 09:13.26 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong |
| 09:13.36 | Fisker- | err nevermind |
| 09:13.36 | Grum | Mikk: humz that is a sweet addon :P |
| 09:13.38 | Fisker- | i'm doing it wrong |
| 09:13.39 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:13.44 | Grum | hehe |
| 09:13.53 | Mikk | rule #1 in wowace: assume fisker- is wrong |
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| 09:13.57 | Mikk | rule #2: if not, he's probably trolling |
| 09:13.59 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:14.01 | Azurewrath | Mikk: mhm.. so i should just delete all externals, omit them in the future and Check Out every lib i need to the root of my Addon Folder? Do all libs actually have a toc and stuff to run them StandAlone? |
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| 09:14.14 | Mikk | Azurewrath: yes, and yes |
| 09:14.45 | sylvanaar | lolwut |
| 09:14.47 | Fisker- | Mikk rule #1 i'm still trolling :I |
| 09:15.45 | Mikk | rule #3: not a rule, more of a recommendation: "/ignore fisker- " is probably safe, and better for your mental health in the long run |
| 09:16.09 | Azurewrath | Mikk: ok, guess i'll try that.. thanks. :) |
| 09:16.20 | sylvanaar | WAIT |
| 09:16.24 | sylvanaar | caps |
| 09:16.48 | sylvanaar | svn nvm |
| 09:16.51 | Mikk | Azurewrath: make a backup of your addon dir btw. you're gonna fuck something up first time :P |
| 09:17.28 | Mikk | obtw.. http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat <- how to zap externals |
| 09:17.37 | sylvanaar | does anyone actually checkout thier entire addon folder? |
| 09:17.57 | Azurewrath | Mikk: i have several backups of all my addons, create several packages etc... i run scripts for that ;) |
| 09:18.00 | Mikk | some of the linux and mac freaks do i know |
| 09:18.03 | sylvanaar | Mikk the latest WAU can clean them now |
| 09:18.23 | Mikk | i prefer using wau myself |
| 09:18.27 | sylvanaar | assuming it has installed them |
| 09:18.30 | Mikk | in part because i know it doesn't kill the server |
| 09:18.38 | Mikk | in part because it's like 10+ times faster |
| 09:19.38 | Mikk | (literally.. i've got maybe 10 addons/libs checked out. svn update on those take more time than wau on the rest of my addons) |
| 09:20.38 | sylvanaar | yeah, i just check out - edit check in - then delete the folder contents and get it via wau again |
| 09:22.20 | sylvanaar | svn makes a lot of dirs and files |
| 09:23.25 | dodgizzla | ~wowlua |
| 09:23.37 | dodgizzla | I see. |
| 09:23.45 | Mec | if a funciton has 5 return values but i just want the first 3 can i just do a,b,c = func(args) or do i have to do a,b,c,_,_ |
| 09:24.11 | sylvanaar | the first one |
| 09:24.15 | Mec | thanks |
| 09:24.50 | Mikk | and if you want the last three you can do a,b,c = select(3, func(args)) |
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| 09:25.11 | Mikk | umm bad example perhaps... |
| 09:25.12 | Mec | ah cool |
| 09:25.25 | Mikk | if you want the last 2 you can do a,b = select(4, func(args)) |
| 09:25.42 | sylvanaar | there is a coding tips page with a good example of how to use seclect |
| 09:26.26 | Mec | well i really only need the 3rd out of 12, but ill just use _,_,a instead of select ;p |
| 09:26.52 | Mikk | a = select(3, func(args)) |
| 09:26.58 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 09:27.20 | Mec | i guess |
| 09:27.44 | sylvanaar | i like this http://www.wowwiki.com/Tips_and_tricks_for_using_..._in_WoW_2.0#Iterations |
| 09:27.57 | sylvanaar | its somtimes useful with blizz functions |
| 09:28.51 | Mec | wow that would have helped me 20 min ago |
| 09:29.09 | Mec | but now that i figured out the return values i just need the 1 |
| 09:30.18 | Fisker- | suddenly BULLETS EVERYWHERE |
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| 09:32.11 | abbat_w | heh |
| 09:32.19 | abbat_w | PowerAuras now aced |
| 09:32.20 | abbat_w | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Avion |
| 09:33.46 | Mec | can anyone point me to site that explains lua's form of regex? |
| 09:34.08 | krka | lua.org |
| 09:34.14 | krka | lua.org/manual/5.1 even |
| 09:34.17 | Mec | nvm theres actually something on wowwiki |
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| 09:37.43 | [KzM]Fatalis | comp freezing, brb |
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| 09:40.41 | snapcase_ | abbat_w: but not available for dl? :< |
| 09:41.03 | abbat_w | snapcase_, can't find at /files/ ;( |
| 09:41.10 | snapcase_ | same, wanted to try! |
| 09:41.17 | abbat_w | same for me ;) |
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| 09:45.37 | Sole | theoretically, theres no chance that a UNIT_HEALTH/MANA event would fire for a new target before the PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED event fires, correct? |
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| 09:47.08 | dodgizzla | Sole: One could think that. But I saw Pitbull updating the health bar only after my target taking damage (after I switched from a mob with the same name) |
| 09:47.33 | Sole | well my events are only registered inside the arena |
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| 09:47.44 | Sole | so multiple names could only occur with pets and the chances of that are unlikely |
| 09:48.20 | Sole | dodgizzla: and for pitbull I dont think it noticed the target changed because of the same mob name |
| 09:48.58 | dodgizzla | Sole: Probably, didn't bother me enough to annoy ckknight with that :D |
| 09:49.26 | Sole | dodgizzla: yeah good thinking, you dont want to annoy him. He'll bite your face off |
| 09:50.21 | dodgizzla | Yeah he already grazes my pasture, eats my crackers and now biting my face off? No thank you, sir. |
| 09:51.57 | Sole | so I found out this brilliant feature of Notepad++ |
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| 09:52.04 | Lyfe | there does seem to be a noticeable (albiet minor, and probably relatively inconsequential) delay between when pitbull displays the numbers for someone being injured, and the bar changing.. i noticed that on the raid frames earlier in kara. |
| 09:52.18 | Sole | holding the right mouse button and scrolling the mouse wheel replicates the function of ctrl+tab |
| 09:53.15 | Azurewrath | Sole: nice to know :) |
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| 09:54.31 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c189.html <-- I played a pen&paper game where your "Str", "Con", etc. stats were based on how the GM perceived your real-life "Str", "CON", etc. |
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| 09:55.57 | Mec | ouch, that would suck |
| 09:56.17 | Sole | haha bad luck for most nerds :P |
| 09:57.20 | Azurewrath | sounds boring.. i can play myself all day.. rpg's are there to NOT play yourself :) |
| 09:57.22 | nevcairiel | i get str, but whats con ? :P |
| 09:58.08 | Sole | constitution |
| 09:58.09 | Mec | constitution |
| 09:58.12 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 09:58.18 | nevcairiel | makes sense |
| 09:58.20 | Sole | stamina :P |
| 09:58.21 | Mec | like stamina i guess |
| 09:58.23 | Mec | lol |
| 09:58.28 | nevcairiel | i get it now :P |
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| 09:59.28 | mitch0 | yo |
| 09:59.38 | mitch0 | is the ag_UF dev around? |
| 10:00.10 | nevcairiel | havent seen him for a while |
| 10:00.14 | nevcairiel | i think he is on vacation |
| 10:00.28 | Saladin | aw |
| 10:04.27 | Mec | bah instances reset soon |
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| 10:05.05 | Azurewrath | does someone know when the files for files.wowace.com are made? Like directly after a commit, every 10mins..? |
| 10:05.47 | ckknight | 20 minutes |
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| 10:09.08 | Mellow_ | is it possible to remove one addon from wowace updater list permanently? I have serenity, and woau has in the list as well, there is no changelog-r\d+.xml in the dir, so it says version unknown, and tries to update, but its a completly different addon |
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| 10:12.20 | Matrix110 | Mellow_ add a .svn folder |
| 10:12.24 | Matrix110 | then it just gets skipped |
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| 10:12.53 | Mellow_ | .svn dir under the addon? |
| 10:13.00 | Matrix110 | inside the addon folder |
| 10:13.05 | Mellow_ | ok, thanks |
| 10:13.13 | Matrix110 | if you cant create a .svn dir Start-Execute->type in "cmd"(without "")->c: -> mkdir .svn |
| 10:13.22 | Matrix110 | then goto C: copy the .svn folder |
| 10:13.28 | Matrix110 | and insert it @the addon |
| 10:13.53 | Mellow_ | well, i guess that shouldnt be a problem |
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| 10:14.06 | Matrix110 | well in windows you normally cant create .svn dirs :P |
| 10:14.20 | Mikk | sure you can |
| 10:14.30 | Mikk | just don't use the bloody gui tools |
| 10:14.31 | Mikk | gogo cmd.exe |
| 10:14.37 | Matrix110 | mikk scroll up:P |
| 10:15.01 | Mellow_ | hm sounds interesting |
| 10:15.11 | Mikk | "c:" won't switch directories |
| 10:15.33 | mitch0 | if I create a frame just to catch some events and the first OnUpdate(), is it better to also :Hide() the frame after the first OnUpdate(), or it's enough to just set the OnUpdate() handler to nil? |
| 10:15.54 | Mikk | better to hide the frame |
| 10:16.03 | Mikk | (i believe, anyway =)) |
| 10:16.10 | mitch0 | the other events will still be delivered, right? |
| 10:16.14 | Mikk | yes |
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| 10:16.25 | Matrix110 | (12:15:13) (+Mikk) "c:" won't switch directories <---on the standard PC it works:P |
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| 10:16.35 | Mellow_ | hm tc has created .svn |
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| 10:16.37 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 10:16.38 | Matrix110 | ops |
| 10:16.38 | Mikk | on the standard what? |
| 10:16.40 | Matrix110 | cd :P |
| 10:16.42 | Matrix110 | forgot it |
| 10:16.44 | Matrix110 | cd c: |
| 10:16.45 | Matrix110 | was it |
| 10:16.50 | Mikk | no still won't work |
| 10:16.57 | Mikk | now it'll tell me the current directory |
| 10:17.00 | Mikk | you want cd c:\ |
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| 10:17.09 | Mikk | or cd \ |
| 10:17.13 | Mikk | or cd /D c:\ |
| 10:17.21 | Mellow_ | total commander can handle .svn creation |
| 10:17.28 | Matrix110 | oh d: etc. only work if you arent on the partition already |
| 10:17.45 | Mikk | OR you can do Start->Run: mkdir .svn |
| 10:17.49 | Matrix110 | the DOS time was over when i started with PCs didnt really get used to it that much |
| 10:17.49 | Mikk | And then Start->Run: . |
| 10:17.51 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 10:18.01 | mitch0 | frame:Hide() is the correct syntax, right? |
| 10:18.04 | Mikk | yes |
| 10:18.43 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r43989 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: hide our frame after the first OnUpdate() |
| 10:18.48 | Mikk | *cough* i mean Start->Run: cmd /C mkdir .svn |
| 10:18.58 | Mikk | unless you have unxutils installed :S |
| 10:19.42 | mitch0 | could someone give a test-drive to RangeCheck-1.0 (or RangeDisplay with embedded stuff)? I'd hate to publish it with compile time errors :) (@work, can't test) |
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| 10:20.00 | Mellow_ | ^^ i do |
| 10:20.38 | Mellow_ | i hate windows explorer |
| 10:23.01 | Recluse | i finally figured out a reason to use cart_heat (top secret plans tho) |
| 10:23.22 | abbat_w | Guys, give me a point please. I want to make an addon which display timer for summoned water elemental. Addon should use CandyBar, have some command line options, hold settings (bar style, coords) in profile. Which addon i can use for example? |
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| 10:24.03 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: HotCandy :p |
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| 10:24.18 | mitch0 | abbat: elementalflux, hzfrosty |
| 10:24.39 | mitch0 | for the elemental handling part |
| 10:24.39 | abbat_w | already dl hzFrosty ;) |
| 10:24.58 | mitch0 | unfortunately the Freeze cooldown thing is kinda ugly |
| 10:24.59 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r43990 10Mendeleev/Set_Instances_61-70.lua: |
| 10:24.59 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 10:24.59 | CIA-22 | - added Hyjal Summit loot |
| 10:25.07 | abbat_w | i think rest i can found in every aced addon? |
| 10:25.10 | mitch0 | have to check the petbar buttons for it |
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| 10:26.49 | mitch0 | (if someone can test RangeDisplay in its current form, please drop me a privmsg) |
| 10:27.10 | what-K | hi all can someone name me a good unitframe for the german client ?= |
| 10:27.30 | abbat_w | pitbull? |
| 10:27.49 | Azurewrath | does wau2 parse the embeds.xml? |
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| 10:31.50 | CIA-22 | 03duglum * r43991 10Recount/embeds.xml: Recount: fix typo in embeds.xml |
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| 10:36.07 | Fisker- | man mozilla are a bunch of n00bs |
| 10:36.17 | Fisker- | there nightly thunderbird 3 alphas are running like shit! |
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| 10:36.26 | Fisker- | i am shocked and apalled |
| 10:36.40 | mastashog | hehe |
| 10:36.52 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 10:36.53 | purl | well, fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. Please take everything he says with a grain of salt. We think he's just here to try and get more CP. - END DISCLAIMER |
| 10:36.54 | JoshBorke | fix the topic! "Site is back up and the restoration progress has begun" |
| 10:37.15 | Fisker- | NO U Thrae :( |
| 10:37.32 | Fisker- | can't help that i'm a star trek fan |
| 10:37.49 | Thrae | What does being a Star Trek fan have to do with all your CP? |
| 10:37.58 | Mellow_ | who is the admin of purl? |
| 10:38.05 | Thrae | ~purl |
| 10:38.06 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is purl |
| 10:38.10 | Fisker- | http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/hive/picard3.jpg |
| 10:38.12 | Thrae | OK, that's useful |
| 10:38.17 | Fisker- | Captain Picard :D |
| 10:38.32 | what-K | can someone name me a good unitframe for the german client ?= |
| 10:38.51 | Thrae | Mellow_: Tim Riker, msg the bot for more info |
| 10:39.02 | Thrae | Mellow_: He's a shared bot across Freenode |
| 10:39.22 | Fisker- | ~botsnack |
| 10:39.22 | purl | thanks, Fisker- |
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| 10:39.43 | Thrae | Fisker-: All real Star Trek fans a) Call him JLP, b) Worship Kirk unless they are Star Trek:NGE fans |
| 10:39.59 | Mellow_ | ah makes sense, i thought somebody from this channel |
| 10:40.04 | Fisker- | yeah but CP for horror and shock effect |
| 10:40.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | They worship me? :P |
| 10:40.18 | Fisker- | JB for Joey Bishop |
| 10:40.43 | Thrae | Fisker-: Don't make me show you the logs where you explain JB is Jailbait, and explain your fascination with CP ;) |
| 10:40.57 | Fisker- | actually if you followed that log |
| 10:41.02 | Fisker- | you would see i linked to a picture |
| 10:41.08 | Fisker- | with Joey Bishop and Captain Picard |
| 10:41.13 | Fisker- | JB and CP |
| 10:41.22 | Thrae | That's a different conversation |
| 10:41.26 | Fisker- | no u :( |
| 10:42.47 | Thrae | You can't a) Show links to 4chan in IRC and b) Make jokes about browsing 4chan for "CP" without always explaining that by "CP" you mean "Captain Picard", as otherwise you will be labled a pedo |
| 10:42.57 | Thrae | And you have been labled a pedo. Ask anyone on #wowwiki. |
| 10:43.06 | Thrae | The FBI has been informed. |
| 10:43.07 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:43.20 | Fisker- | then i better hide all my real CP |
| 10:43.25 | Thrae | (Not like they needed to be) |
| 10:43.36 | Thelyna | dare I urbandictionary CP? |
| 10:43.44 | Thelyna | oh nm, I get it |
| 10:44.03 | Thelyna | any time I see CP I think combo points |
| 10:44.08 | Thelyna | I play this game way too much |
| 10:44.16 | Thelyna | (my highest rogue is level .. 13) |
| 10:44.54 | Fisker- | i never called combo points for CP :P |
| 10:45.03 | Thrae | Thelyna: If you go into an IRC channel about WoW and do not first think CP is about Combo Points, it is not that you haven't played WoW enough, it's that you have been on IRC for way too long |
| 10:45.28 | Undine | so it's not cheeseplant then? |
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| 10:46.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 10:46.35 | Thelyna | I was on IRC way before I was on WoW |
| 10:46.49 | Thelyna | I'm 24 now, and I was hanging around the seedy side of undernet when I was 13 |
| 10:47.18 | Thrae | Thelyna: You've been away from IRC for too long since joining WoW, I mean ;) |
| 10:47.38 | Thrae | Your mind is starting to de-perverse! |
| 10:47.38 | Thelyna | true |
| 10:47.45 | Thelyna | oh I dunno |
| 10:47.48 | Fisker- | think i've been on irc for 7-8 years now |
| 10:47.58 | Thelyna | I think I'm moving toward a benign perversity |
| 10:48.03 | Fisker- | Until recently i actually had like 3GB of logs |
| 10:48.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | My first experience of IRC was #wowi-lounge :P |
| 10:48.19 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c196.html <-- truth re: Linux |
| 10:48.24 | Azurewrath | mhm.. 97/98 for me i guess.. or maybe 96.. damn i'm old. :( |
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| 10:49.23 | Thrae | Fisker-: I had that problem until I 7zip'd all my old logs. Went down to a tiny fraction. |
| 10:49.32 | Thrae | Only took me 3 days! |
| 10:49.58 | Thelyna | one advantage of being net connected from the start of my teenage years ... I never had to bother trying to bluff my way into buying a dirty magazine :p |
| 10:50.10 | fireglow | btw, pitbull question: what is that sliding bar in the casters manabar after doing a spell? |
| 10:50.24 | Thelyna | pitbull_powergain or something |
| 10:50.24 | Fisker- | Thrae :P |
| 10:50.28 | Thelyna | lemme check it out |
| 10:50.30 | Fisker- | unfortunately i lost mine |
| 10:50.39 | Thrae | Thelyna: There weren't a lot of graphics on the Internet in my early teens =/ |
| 10:50.41 | liquiem | fireglow, 5sec rule spark |
| 10:50.47 | mastashog | its a graphical show of the 5 second rule as far as i know |
| 10:50.55 | fireglow | liquiem: ok thanks...what do i need this for? -.- |
| 10:50.58 | Thelyna | sorry yeah it's PitBull_Spark |
| 10:51.05 | Thelyna | for mana using classes |
| 10:51.15 | Thelyna | for a rogue or warrior (or probably hunter) you don't need to worry |
| 10:51.28 | fireglow | ah ok (hunter) |
| 10:51.48 | Thrae | PitBull_Spark shouldn't be showing it for non-5-second-rule classes |
| 10:51.56 | Thrae | Complain to the author |
| 10:51.58 | Margus | ckknight: I want to have your babies |
| 10:51.59 | Thelyna | Thrae: thing is now I don't even get ID'd for those magazines, a lot of the fun has gone out of it |
| 10:51.59 | liquiem | fireglow, you dont need it unless you want to know when mana regen outside combat kicks in |
| 10:52.16 | ckknight | Margus: |
| 10:52.19 | ckknight | ;- |
| 10:52.21 | liquiem | Thrae, it shows for mana classes. hunter uses mana so it's there |
| 10:52.21 | ckknight | ) |
| 10:52.26 | fireglow | hm i see ok its clear now, thanks liquiem |
| 10:52.33 | Margus | :D |
| 10:52.33 | Thrae | liquiem: It'd be horribly easy to fix |
| 10:52.41 | Thelyna | fireglow: you probably don't need to worry about it that much |
| 10:52.42 | Thrae | Hunters aren't effected by the 5-sec rule, right? |
| 10:52.45 | Margus | Parrot = teh secks now with the triggers |
| 10:52.46 | Thelyna | they are |
| 10:52.50 | Thrae | Oh, then nevermind |
| 10:52.56 | Thelyna | but really it's not a big deal |
| 10:53.09 | Thelyna | if you're grinding and low on mana, just autoshoot for a while and let your pet do the work |
| 10:53.12 | Thrae | You can remove Pitbull_Sparks |
| 10:53.20 | Thelyna | or disable it |
| 10:53.33 | Thrae | Fisker-: http://xkcd.com/c198.html |
| 10:53.37 | liquiem | yep, but there is nothing to "fix" actually |
| 10:53.55 | Thelyna | also, primal fire farming makes me :( |
| 10:54.16 | Thrae | liquiem: Well I just recanted if you didn't read it ;) |
| 10:54.48 | mastashog | is there a possibility to show/hide different addons (e.g. Grid, eavesdrop) with a keybound macro of some ort or du the developers have to add that as a feature to their addons? |
| 10:55.00 | Fisker- | haha Thrae |
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| 10:55.20 | Undine | mastashog, you can usually create a macro |
| 10:55.22 | Thrae | mastashog: It is possible, however, not easy unless the addon developers make it easy (like having slash commands such as /grid hide) |
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| 10:56.17 | mastashog | it bugs me, that i cant hide some stuff when i dont really need it |
| 10:57.07 | Thrae | mastashog: See if the addons have AddonLoader support too -- that's even better. Then addons like Grid aren't even loaded until you get into a Raid, etc. |
| 10:57.57 | Margus | ckknight: is the bug from the Triggers.lua line 458 already reported? |
| 10:58.14 | Thrae | Margus: Check Trac :D |
| 10:58.22 | Margus | lazy peon me is ^^ |
| 10:58.22 | ckknight | Waterfall bug |
| 10:58.24 | ckknight | ? |
| 10:58.24 | Margus | aye |
| 10:58.52 | ckknight | yea, it's an issue with Waterfall |
| 10:59.12 | Margus | ok nevermind ^^ |
| 10:59.14 | syeren | ckknight :) |
| 10:59.33 | syeren | I got my addon working, I just need you thelp me later today with AceDB and Fubar :P |
| 10:59.43 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c203.html <-- L.O.L. |
| 11:00.23 | Margus | Thrae: what the heck? |
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| 11:01.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | http://mathsforlaughs.co.uk/ |
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| 11:03.14 | Fisker- | http://xkcd.com/c279.html |
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| 11:04.20 | sb | morning |
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| 11:07.02 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 11:07.05 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 22h 15m 53s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 11:07.16 | cncfanatics | ~assassinate Nargiddley |
| 11:08.13 | cncfanatics | hello :) |
| 11:08.45 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, maybe you could help me |
| 11:09.10 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c208.html <-- so I'm not the only one (again) |
| 11:09.38 | cncfanatics | (answer, Fisker- ! :)) |
| 11:15.14 | Thrae | http://xkcd.com/c214.html <-- never go to wikipedia if you are doing something else, but also a little bit bored |
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| 11:20.17 | abbat_w | Guys, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED always fired if spell cast succeeded? Even after UNIT_SPELLCAST_DELAYED? |
| 11:20.58 | abbat_w | for instant casts handling i should use this event? |
| 11:21.28 | Thelyna | as far as I can tell succeeded is always fired yes |
| 11:21.36 | Thelyna | and I'd guess so |
| 11:21.40 | Thelyna | not an expert though |
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| 11:31.17 | omega | ok, does anyone else but me have mad trouble with irc.freenode.net atm? |
| 11:31.32 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r43993 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/ (Maladaar.lua Vorpil.lua): LittleWigs: Auchindoun: frFR Update |
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| 11:35.50 | Neebler | IM SO HAPPY, CAUSE TODAY I FOUND MY FRIENDS, THEY'RE IN MY HEAD |
| 11:35.55 | Neebler | IM SO UGLY, THATS OK, CAUSE SO ARE YOU |
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| 11:48.07 | Neebler | welp, the time has come. deleting my entire interface and starting over |
| 11:48.43 | Fisker- | purl, literal whaleparry |
| 11:48.57 | Fisker- | purl, you suck |
| 11:48.57 | purl | and very well I might add |
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| 11:49.05 | Fisker- | purl, whaleparry |
| 11:49.16 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 11:49.31 | Fisker- | ~literal whaleparry |
| 11:49.37 | nevcairiel | ~whaleparry Fisker- |
| 11:49.37 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Fisker-'s attacks. |
| 11:49.47 | Fisker- | why doesn't literal work anymore? |
| 11:49.53 | nevcairiel | ~literal |
| 11:49.54 | purl | Leave me alone you! I won't reveal my secrets! |
| 11:49.58 | nevcairiel | see? |
| 11:49.58 | Fisker- | ! |
| 11:50.00 | Fisker- | fu purl |
| 11:50.13 | nevcairiel | ~define literal |
| 11:50.14 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 11:50.22 | nevcairiel | ~literal literal |
| 11:50.23 | purl | "literal" is "<reply>Leave me alone you! I won't reveal my secrets!" |
| 11:50.27 | Neebler | purl whaleporn? |
| 11:50.30 | Fisker- | ~literal whaleparry |
| 11:50.36 | Fisker- | do want |
| 11:50.46 | nevcairiel | ~literal whaleparry |
| 11:50.46 | Neebler | 4chan is bad for you fisker |
| 11:50.50 | Fisker- | no u :( |
| 11:50.54 | nevcairiel | guess its broken :P |
| 11:51.10 | nevcairiel | ~literal poke |
| 11:51.21 | nevcairiel | guess someone broke literal |
| 11:51.38 | Neebler | srsly! |
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| 11:52.35 | cncfanatics | Fisker- ! |
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| 11:53.21 | cncfanatics | ~slap Fisker- |
| 11:53.22 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker-, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 11:55.20 | Punkie` | don't speak to him Fisker-, he's a bad person |
| 11:55.48 | cncfanatics | -.- |
| 11:56.20 | Health | purl's a she |
| 11:56.27 | cncfanatics | ~finger Punkie` |
| 11:56.28 | purl | ACTION raises his middle finger to Punkie` |
| 11:56.40 | cncfanatics | his |
| 11:56.41 | Health | schuzi! |
| 11:56.47 | cncfanatics | purl is both ! |
| 11:56.50 | Health | yes |
| 11:57.19 | Fisker- | ban Punkie` ! |
| 11:57.26 | cncfanatics | Fisker- ! |
| 11:57.27 | cncfanatics | now answer me |
| 11:57.33 | cncfanatics | are u on WoW atm ? :p |
| 11:57.46 | Fisker- | no |
| 11:57.49 | Fisker- | why |
| 11:57.49 | Fisker- | ? |
| 11:58.07 | Punkie` | Fisker- i hates u :< |
| 11:58.19 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, can u run WoW on ur comp ? |
| 11:58.24 | cncfanatics | I'm at work an need code tested |
| 11:58.25 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:58.28 | Fisker- | alright |
| 11:58.33 | Fisker- | i loves u Punkie` :( |
| 11:58.34 | mitch0 | cnc: who doesn't? |
| 11:58.35 | cncfanatics | one sec, uploading it |
| 11:58.36 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 11:58.36 | purl | rumour has it, fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. Please take everything he says with a grain of salt. We think he's just here to try and get more CP. - END DISCLAIMER |
| 11:59.13 | cncfanatics | ~Thrae |
| 11:59.13 | purl | from memory, thrae is awesome. |
| 11:59.54 | sylvanaar | any of you run windows? |
| 12:00.07 | cncfanatics | I am running windows at work atm |
| 12:00.10 | cncfanatics | usualy its debian though |
| 12:00.13 | sylvanaar | i just wrote something sorta useless, but cool |
| 12:00.27 | Punkie` | what is this usless but cool thing? |
| 12:00.37 | Punkie` | prat for IRC? |
| 12:00.41 | Fisker- | better not be a rat counter |
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| 12:02.12 | sylvanaar | no, a shell extension for toc files |
| 12:02.19 | Neebler | so I was making some raviolis for dinner, and as I picked up the container of parmesian cheese I accidentally dropped it, spilling a good ammount directly down into the cast I have on my foot |
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| 12:02.40 | cncfanatics | Fisker- |
| 12:02.48 | cncfanatics | http://files-upload.com/378255/FlexBar2.zip.html please try the /fb command |
| 12:02.52 | Neebler | on top of the horrid stench that I will have on my foot/leg due to having a cast on it for months, It'll also stink of parmessian cheese when the doctors takes it off. which will be quite enjoy to see the look on his face |
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| 12:03.08 | Punkie` | Fisker-: it's a keylogger - don't do it! |
| 12:03.22 | cncfanatics | Punkie`, Fiskr |
| 12:03.23 | Fisker- | i can't get keyloggers |
| 12:03.25 | Neebler | it's communist propaganda in disguise! |
| 12:03.29 | Fisker- | omg |
| 12:03.31 | cncfanatics | most people here dont run windows |
| 12:03.32 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43995 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Archimonde: add engage fear alert |
| 12:03.34 | Neebler | coupled with gay porn |
| 12:03.35 | Fisker- | 30 seconds wait for a 4kB file |
| 12:03.44 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 12:03.48 | cncfanatics | didnt find a better place to upload it |
| 12:03.52 | Fisker- | rapidshare.com |
| 12:03.54 | cncfanatics | and I cant access my ftp cuz of this stupid proxy |
| 12:04.06 | cncfanatics | any ftp upload script somewhere on the net ? |
| 12:04.17 | cncfanatics | so I can just enter ftp url, username pw & file and the script uploads it for me |
| 12:04.50 | Punkie` | http://www.webfilebrowser.org/ <-- quite alright |
| 12:04.57 | Punkie` | oh, you mean that |
| 12:04.59 | Punkie` | i dont think so |
| 12:05.28 | sylvanaar | http://derey.home.mindspring.com/tocinfo.zip thats it if you wanna try it, you gotta do regsvr32 tocfile.dll |
| 12:05.38 | cncfanatics | whats that ? |
| 12:05.39 | Fisker- | nothings cncfanatics |
| 12:05.46 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, no message, no error ? |
| 12:06.03 | Fisker- | it indicates the command doesn't exist |
| 12:06.04 | Punkie` | sylvanaar: what does this actually do? |
| 12:06.15 | Fisker- | [2007/07/17 14:04:32-1406-x1]: FlexBar2\Layout\Layout.lua:1: attempt to index global 'FlexBar2' (a nil value) |
| 12:06.20 | sylvanaar | shows 4 lines from the toc |
| 12:06.20 | Fisker- | [2007/07/17 14:04:32-1406-x1]: FlexBar2\Core.lua:120: ')' expected near '=' |
| 12:06.24 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 12:06.25 | sylvanaar | when you hover over it |
| 12:06.28 | cncfanatics | = and == |
| 12:06.30 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43996 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: add agonizing flames and shadow demons alert |
| 12:06.31 | cncfanatics | always miss in if calls |
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| 12:07.56 | sylvanaar | what are those 2 chars at the beginning of text files again - they some sort of unicode or utf8 marker? |
| 12:08.00 | sylvanaar | i cant remember |
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| 12:08.58 | sylvanaar |  |
| 12:09.05 | sylvanaar |  |
| 12:09.07 | sylvanaar | whoa |
| 12:09.19 | nevcairiel | i dont have anything like that on my files |
| 12:09.22 | sylvanaar | i cant even see it |
| 12:09.42 | sylvanaar | when it gets into the chat- its a file header of some sort |
| 12:09.44 | Fisker- | well i'm almost done fixing your n00b mistakes cncfanatics |
| 12:10.12 | Fisker- | [2007/07/17 14:09:33-1411-x1]: Waterfall-1.0-43715 (Waterfall-1.0):213: "tree" must be a table |
| 12:10.15 | Fisker- | beginners mistake |
| 12:13.22 | Wobin | >< |
| 12:13.24 | Wobin | I log in |
| 12:13.27 | Wobin | 45 seconds to reboot |
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| 12:14.11 | vhaarr | ~seen tuller |
| 12:14.13 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 14h 51m 10s ago, saying: 'and hurray :)'. |
| 12:14.40 | sylvanaar | http://derey.home.mindspring.com/toctip.jpg there is a screenshot |
| 12:15.14 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, http://rapidshare.com/files/43410287/FlexBar2.zip.html |
| 12:15.16 | cncfanatics | try that |
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| 12:16.27 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, try the one I just sent |
| 12:16.32 | Fisker- | missing a then |
| 12:16.39 | cncfanatics | sigh, hardcoding sux |
| 12:16.52 | Fisker- | but i already fixed it for you :P |
| 12:16.57 | Fisker- | waterfall gives you errors |
| 12:18.24 | sylvanaar | it is the UTF-8 tag |
| 12:18.27 | sylvanaar | EFBBBF |
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| 12:18.44 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, what it says now ? |
| 12:19.02 | mitch0 | fisker: wanna test another drycoded addon, too? :) |
| 12:19.02 | cncfanatics | I suck at waterfall :( |
| 12:19.07 | Fisker- | [2007/07/17 14:09:33-1411-x1]: Waterfall-1.0-43715 (Waterfall-1.0):213: "tree" must be a table |
| 12:19.12 | Fisker- | was what it said when i had fixed your errors |
| 12:20.12 | Fisker- | well now it has a config |
| 12:20.14 | Fisker- | but it's empty |
| 12:20.22 | mitch0 | fisker: I'll give you a virtual cookie if you test RangeDisplay for me :) |
| 12:20.26 | Fisker- | [2007/07/17 14:19:51-1413-x3]: FlexBar2\Core.lua:134: attempt to index global 'waterfall' (a nil value) |
| 12:20.34 | Fisker- | sure mitch0 |
| 12:20.56 | mitch0 | fisker: cool, thanks. just grab the latest zip from files.wowace.com |
| 12:21.26 | mitch0 | fisker: do you happen to have a high level priest? :) |
| 12:21.58 | Fisker- | high level paladin but not priest :o |
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| 12:22.41 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, this should fix the caps errors http://rapidshare.com/files/43411375/FlexBar2.zip.html |
| 12:22.48 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, ur a paladin ?? omg :p me too §§ |
| 12:23.06 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 12:23.09 | mitch0 | fisker: ok, then just try if it loads without compile errors :) |
| 12:23.22 | cncfanatics | I started commits on flexbar2 last week and i'm already getting mail again asking when it'll be done -.- |
| 12:23.38 | Fisker- | moar |
| 12:23.54 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: when will flexbar2 be done? |
| 12:24.00 | pb_ee1 | :P |
| 12:24.12 | Health | :P^~~ |
| 12:24.29 | Josh_Borke | never |
| 12:24.34 | Fisker- | loads fine |
| 12:24.37 | Fisker- | and shows some ranges |
| 12:25.02 | Neebler | I used flexbar for a crazy long time when it first came out, with all of the /slash commands to configure it. stopped when it started causing spurts of lag in raids for some odd reason |
| 12:25.05 | Fisker- | you're still missing your "then" on line 122 |
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| 12:27.11 | abbat_w | oh god |
| 12:27.23 | abbat_w | candybar lib sweet |
| 12:27.31 | Administrator | anyone familiar with quartz swingtimer? |
| 12:27.53 | Fisker- | fixing the "then" error i get an empty waterfall with 3 buttons on button control |
| 12:27.55 | Fisker- | without errors |
| 12:29.12 | binder | server restart tuesdays are great! |
| 12:29.36 | Fisker- | NO U |
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| 12:30.09 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43997 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed deDE locale for Windfury weapon |
| 12:31.19 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, can u screenshot it ? |
| 12:31.35 | cncfanatics | Want to be sure everything is as I want :p |
| 12:33.12 | abbat_w | huh |
| 12:33.34 | Fisker- | http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8725/wowscrnshot071707143234wy5.jpg |
| 12:33.34 | abbat_w | only 1kb of source code and SimplePetTimer ready ;) |
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| 12:36.09 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 12:36.12 | cncfanatics | omg at the FB2 thread |
| 12:36.14 | cncfanatics | I just opened it |
| 12:36.35 | Neebler | ** I move away from the mic to breathe in |
| 12:36.46 | Fisker- | CHOCOLATE RAIN |
| 12:37.22 | Neebler | its stuck in my head! |
| 12:37.28 | cncfanatics | Fisker- |
| 12:37.31 | cncfanatics | what u get is weird |
| 12:37.36 | cncfanatics | u shld get 2 text fields |
| 12:37.39 | cncfanatics | one to create a button |
| 12:37.41 | cncfanatics | the other to edit it |
| 12:37.54 | cncfanatics | and each time with a Save & Edit button next to the textbox respectivly |
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| 12:38.39 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA |
| 12:38.42 | Fisker- | actually i do the first time |
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| 12:38.49 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 12:38.55 | cncfanatics | what happened then ? |
| 12:38.56 | Fisker- | but when i go to another category and back again it just has those 3 buttons |
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| 12:39.00 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 12:39.01 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 12:39.09 | cncfanatics | did u type anything in the boxes ? |
| 12:39.23 | Fisker- | yeah tried to make a button it said invalid name |
| 12:39.47 | cncfanatics | oh yea, thats normal |
| 12:39.50 | cncfanatics | didnt code that yet |
| 12:39.53 | cncfanatics | cant hardcode such stuff tbh |
| 12:39.55 | cncfanatics | (at least I can't) |
| 12:40.00 | cncfanatics | just working on an interface atm |
| 12:40.09 | abbat_w | which ## Interface version actually now, guys? |
| 12:40.40 | nevcairiel | 20100 |
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| 12:41.13 | Fisker- | ~toc |
| 12:41.15 | purl | the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100 |
| 12:41.16 | cncfanatics | anyone has a box I could remote control with WoW ? |
| 12:41.18 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 12:41.21 | abbat_w | so, my first addon done ;) |
| 12:41.28 | abbat_w | try to test it tonight ;) |
| 12:41.34 | cncfanatics | WTB box with remote control capabilities and wow installed |
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| 12:43.13 | Neebler | ChocolateRaaaaiiin |
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| 12:45.17 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, are you running linux ? |
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| 12:46.13 | Fisker- | no |
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| 12:47.17 | FtH|Daemona | haha nice, i guess i get a new hobby :D http://tinyurl.com/yva4ln |
| 12:48.20 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, u know anyone that would let me remote control his comp to test code ? :p |
| 12:48.44 | Fisker- | nope >o |
| 12:48.51 | Grum | cncfanatics: what are you testing that needs remote controling? :P |
| 12:48.57 | cncfanatics | Grum, I'm coding on FlexBar |
| 12:49.00 | cncfanatics | and I'm at work |
| 12:49.03 | cncfanatics | so cant test my code for shit |
| 12:49.07 | cncfanatics | quite unhandy when coding a GUI tbh |
| 12:49.20 | cncfanatics | so I need a box I can remote control that has wow |
| 12:49.26 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43998 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CoilfangReservoir/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: Threat-1.0: add frFR locale for Leotheras. Also a simple bugfix for the error message. |
| 12:49.32 | Grum | k, when you put out the first alpha remind me not to try that one ;D |
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| 12:52.22 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r43999 10pDebuffList/ (core.lua embeds.xml): pDebuffList: Added an indicator and fixed embeds a little. |
| 12:52.27 | cncfanatics | Grum, I don't commit any hardcoded stuff on svn |
| 12:52.32 | cncfanatics | anything on svn is tested ofc |
| 12:52.36 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07nevcairiel * r44000 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Defaults.lua: Bartender3: some small changes to branch to cleanup stuff |
| 12:52.38 | cncfanatics | this also means it goes very slowly though |
| 12:52.52 | nevcairiel | \o/ i got the 44000 |
| 12:52.54 | Punkie` | oh man i so need 44444 commit! |
| 12:52.55 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, one more question |
| 12:53.05 | cncfanatics | still here ? |
| 12:53.15 | Thrae | cncfanatics: Until the SVN is retooled, put your unstable commits in /branches. That's how the Wowace SVN works. /branches is not zipped, but it's still versioned as usual. |
| 12:53.28 | cncfanatics | Thrae, I don't have svn at work :) |
| 12:53.36 | cncfanatics | can't commit even if I wanted to |
| 12:54.09 | Thrae | cncfanatics: Download the client -- it's standalone. Put it on a USB stick or something. |
| 12:54.33 | Fisker- | yeah cncfanatics |
| 12:54.40 | Fisker- | was just finalizing a wiki article :P |
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| 12:55.18 | cncfanatics | Thrae, can't download executables |
| 12:55.28 | cncfanatics | someone zip it somewhere |
| 12:55.46 | cncfanatics | Thrae, can't connect anything to this comp |
| 12:56.03 | cncfanatics | gonna check if its zipped |
| 12:56.06 | cncfanatics | if it is I can download it |
| 12:56.22 | Iceroth | aaaaah! i want Avion, right now |
| 12:56.26 | Iceroth | stupid teasers |
| 12:56.33 | abbat_w | I'm too |
| 12:56.48 | cncfanatics | Fisker- |
| 12:56.57 | cncfanatics | do all buttons appear with ... inside of them instead of text? |
| 12:56.57 | abbat_w | Someone already test it |
| 12:57.04 | abbat_w | But no release at svn |
| 12:57.13 | Thrae | cncfanatics: http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/38203/svn-win32-1.4.4.zip |
| 12:57.22 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r44001 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.toc: LZProfiler: Updating link to official website. |
| 12:57.49 | Mellow_ | everybody is looking for avion :o) |
| 12:58.08 | omega | Iceroth: Avian? |
| 12:58.26 | omega | Avion? |
| 12:58.28 | Iceroth | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7381.0 |
| 12:58.43 | Iceroth | also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBTXBVVWmo looks hawt |
| 12:58.53 | abbat_w | Avion |
| 12:58.59 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 12:59.01 | abbat_w | It's PowerAuras aced |
| 12:59.06 | abbat_w | Don't see this mod before? |
| 12:59.38 | mitch0 | fisker: thanks |
| 13:00.31 | Fisker- | yeah cncfanatics |
| 13:00.39 | Fisker- | regardless of when :o |
| 13:00.45 | omega | lol, on mouse over ads on the wowwiki? on random words? |
| 13:00.51 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, my buttons have a too small size then |
| 13:00.54 | cncfanatics | stupid of me |
| 13:00.56 | blay | is there documentation on the File > Cleanup WoW Saved Variables option of wowace updater? |
| 13:00.58 | cncfanatics | set the size to 25 lol |
| 13:01.00 | Fisker- | i.e. it both does it when it shows the editbox and when it's not |
| 13:01.11 | cncfanatics | 25 is a bit small for a button eh ? |
| 13:01.20 | cncfanatics | I'll change widths & stuff |
| 13:01.20 | blay | or does it just delete all saved variables of installed addons |
| 13:01.21 | Fisker- | i guess :P |
| 13:02.47 | pb_ee1 | Ok, news: the LZRoster is now available in enUS (demo too): http://zorglub6.free.fr/roster/ |
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| 13:03.57 | pb_ee1 | It needs a little more tuning but everything is working fine, no errors, and normally safe for hacked data :p |
| 13:04.12 | Fisker- | looks pretty nice pb_ee1 |
| 13:04.40 | Fisker- | well besides for your crappy english translation |
| 13:04.41 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 13:04.52 | pb_ee1 | Yup, that's my problem atm ^^ |
| 13:05.11 | cncfanatics | propfind failed on etc ... |
| 13:05.14 | cncfanatics | god damnit |
| 13:05.22 | cncfanatics | anything wrong with the svn atm ? |
| 13:05.27 | pb_ee1 | Feel free to submit some correction if you think it's really bad (http://code.google.com/p/lzroster/issues/list) |
| 13:05.46 | cncfanatics | svn: PROPFIND request failed on 'wowace/trunk/FlexBar2' |
| 13:05.55 | cncfanatics | anyone ? |
| 13:06.21 | pb_ee1 | Ho and btw, i'm removing all ads for gold selling as best as I can (ad is not forced, you can remove it but you can also leave it if you want to support the roster) |
| 13:06.30 | nevcairiel | wrong url ? :P |
| 13:06.51 | cncfanatics | nevcairel |
| 13:06.53 | cncfanatics | seems right to me |
| 13:06.59 | cncfanatics | http://dev.wowace.com -.- |
| 13:07.14 | nevcairiel | wrong login? :) |
| 13:07.18 | mitch0 | cnc: btw, you could use branches to commit drycoded stuff to, and merge in the tested stuff to trunk |
| 13:07.24 | nevcairiel | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/ |
| 13:07.26 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 13:07.33 | cncfanatics | mitch0, I'll first need to checkout something |
| 13:07.37 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, workso n the web |
| 13:07.41 | cncfanatics | but not thru my client |
| 13:07.42 | cncfanatics | oh god |
| 13:07.44 | cncfanatics | I know now |
| 13:07.47 | cncfanatics | fucking shitproxy at work |
| 13:07.47 | Thrae | mitch0: Scroll up ;) |
| 13:07.54 | mitch0 | behind some lame ass proxy is my guess |
| 13:07.56 | nevcairiel | i have the same issue at university |
| 13:07.56 | mitch0 | thrae: no :) |
| 13:07.58 | nevcairiel | web access works |
| 13:08.01 | nevcairiel | but not client access |
| 13:08.02 | pb_ee1 | Fisker-: wouldn't it be nice if I put a message on the forum about the roster? |
| 13:08.09 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, any way around it ? |
| 13:08.12 | cncfanatics | a web svn client perhaps |
| 13:08.15 | nevcairiel | didnt find one yet |
| 13:08.23 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 13:08.24 | mitch0 | cnc: tunnel out port 80 of dev.wowace.com |
| 13:08.30 | cncfanatics | mitch0 |
| 13:08.33 | cncfanatics | proxy needs username & pw |
| 13:08.37 | cncfanatics | client dsnt prompt for them |
| 13:08.40 | cncfanatics | lets see if I can get around it |
| 13:08.44 | mitch0 | connect.c |
| 13:08.48 | mitch0 | google for it |
| 13:08.55 | pb_ee1 | ~jfgi |
| 13:08.56 | purl | rumour has it, jfgi is Just ^%#@ing Google it. |
| 13:09.06 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 13:09.13 | mitch0 | if it's an MS proxy, you'll also need an NTLM capable "proxy" thing |
| 13:09.18 | mitch0 | aps, for example |
| 13:09.22 | cncfanatics | I found the proxy url |
| 13:09.24 | cncfanatics | and ooh |
| 13:09.29 | cncfanatics | smartsvn supports proxy usage |
| 13:10.01 | mitch0 | but your proxy will not necessarily support WebDAV/DeltaV, so you might still be screwed :) |
| 13:10.08 | cncfanatics | lets try |
| 13:10.29 | cncfanatics | still failed |
| 13:10.30 | cncfanatics | bah |
| 13:10.42 | Dhraga | a quesrtion, are there any way to activate the vendor prices in KcItems ? |
| 13:10.59 | mitch0 | cnc: do you have an outside box you can ssh to? |
| 13:11.16 | cncfanatics | mitch0, didnt leave my comp on, nope |
| 13:11.22 | cncfanatics | but I doubt I'd be able to ssh at all with this proxy anyway |
| 13:11.29 | mitch0 | then you're outta luck, I guess |
| 13:11.30 | cncfanatics | it probably blocks all but port 80 |
| 13:11.43 | mitch0 | I ssh out thru port 443 :) |
| 13:11.58 | cncfanatics | mitch0, mind me ssh'ing to ur box a second ? |
| 13:12.02 | cncfanatics | or at least trying to |
| 13:12.12 | mitch0 | not my box unfortunately. I begged my way in, too :) |
| 13:12.24 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 13:12.29 | Mellow_ | do you need a tunnel only? |
| 13:12.29 | cncfanatics | who to beg ? |
| 13:12.34 | Mellow_ | i could setup one for ya |
| 13:12.45 | mitch0 | it's a bit complicated :) |
| 13:13.06 | mitch0 | it's the server of a friend's client, so I don't think anyone else will be permitted to log there :) |
| 13:13.39 | Fisker- | what do you mean pb_ee1 ? |
| 13:13.46 | mitch0 | mellow: an ssh tunnel and a /etc/hosts (or equivalient windowsish) entry, yep |
| 13:14.16 | Mellow_ | as i said before, i could setup an ssh tunnelfor cnc, just let me know the ports/host |
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| 13:14.26 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, would that let me get around my proxy ? |
| 13:14.26 | mitch0 | for the ssh tunnel I also need another proxy though that can auth against MSProxy, and connect.c to relay ssh traffic over https... |
| 13:14.31 | cncfanatics | got no clue what a tunnel is tbh |
| 13:14.50 | cncfanatics | I'm a nuby for internet protocol stuff |
| 13:15.00 | Mellow_ | tunnel -> you can connect on my server on a specific port, and it would be redirected to an another post/port |
| 13:15.00 | Josh_Borke | so just n00by, right? |
| 13:15.03 | mitch0 | mellow: he needs the tunnel's entry within his network |
| 13:15.12 | *** join/#wowace Thiana (n=Thiana@c-24-147-41-254.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 13:15.27 | mitch0 | his proxy doesn't like PROPFIND |
| 13:15.47 | Mellow_ | sorry i just jumped in the middle, i just said i coudl setup a tunnel/proxy if it helps |
| 13:15.49 | *** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 13:15.52 | mitch0 | what would be cool though if someone with teh powers configured dev.wowace.com for https, too |
| 13:16.22 | mitch0 | then it would work via most proxies as they wouldn't see the https traffic, so won't b0rk on PROPFIND |
| 13:17.14 | cncfanatics | my proxy prompts me for a username & pw before letting me in though |
| 13:17.18 | cncfanatics | any problem cuz of that ? |
| 13:17.24 | cncfanatics | MSIE prompts me for it when I start inet |
| 13:17.27 | cncfanatics | dunno for other programs |
| 13:17.52 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:17.52 | Mellow_ | can you ssh to an external box? |
| 13:17.52 | Wobin | http://www.myspace.com/futuristicsexrobotz |
| 13:18.00 | cncfanatics | Mellow_ no idea |
| 13:18.02 | Wobin | It's actually pretty good nerdcore rap |
| 13:18.04 | cncfanatics | I got no box to try with |
| 13:18.08 | *** join/#wowace Dustwhisper (n=ask@78.80-202-20.nextgentel.com) |
| 13:18.08 | Mellow_ | have you ever tried it? |
| 13:18.23 | Mellow_ | do you have putty? |
| 13:19.39 | cncfanatics | nope |
| 13:19.41 | cncfanatics | lemme download putty |
| 13:20.20 | cncfanatics | I have no server to try with tho |
| 13:20.21 | krka | rhyming ironforge with laforge :/ |
| 13:20.24 | *** join/#wowace cog|book (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 13:20.32 | Mellow_ | to try? |
| 13:20.34 | cncfanatics | someone mind giving me a random server access data ? |
| 13:20.40 | mitch0 | cnc: take a look at this: http://www.meadowy.org/~gotoh/projects/connect |
| 13:20.55 | Mellow_ | you try to ssh any box |
| 13:21.05 | Wobin | krka: The rap is still tighter than a lot of attempts out there for WoWRap =P |
| 13:21.06 | Mellow_ | 217.20.131.2 on port 22 |
| 13:21.16 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc2-cove7-0-0-cust20.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:21.26 | Mellow_ | if its require a username, it should be okay |
| 13:21.34 | cncfanatics | currently dsnt ask anything |
| 13:21.34 | krka | wha wha wha wha what do you want? |
| 13:21.36 | cncfanatics | I'll wait a sec |
| 13:21.37 | mitch0 | kaelten: you around? |
| 13:21.41 | cncfanatics | stays black |
| 13:21.49 | cncfanatics | network connection timed out |
| 13:21.54 | cncfanatics | lets see if I can conf this stupid proxy |
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| 13:22.21 | Mellow_ | yes you should |
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| 13:24.08 | cncfanatics | proxy error: 403 forbidden |
| 13:24.20 | mitch0 | well, either the svn should be available via HTTPS or someone should create a https->http proxy towards it, then those behind lame-ass proxy servers wouldn't be screwed :) |
| 13:24.52 | krka | Wobin: the original warcraft rap song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2XMnDrZbt4 |
| 13:25.35 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 13:25.39 | cncfanatics | I'm wondering how to get around it tbh |
| 13:25.58 | cncfanatics | 403 forbidden means I'm connected & logged in right I think ? |
| 13:26.16 | nevcairiel | i guess the proxy doesnt support the DAV protocol |
| 13:26.22 | Mellow_ | forbidden could mean you have submitted a wrong pasword and so forth |
| 13:26.30 | cncfanatics | I'll doublecheck my pw then |
| 13:26.47 | Mellow_ | but i never had problem with our internal proxy |
| 13:27.32 | cncfanatics | this is american express, irritating proxy stuff :p |
| 13:27.40 | Mellow_ | mitch0: https->http proxy would be hard... |
| 13:27.43 | cncfanatics | the best way to get around it would be a web svn client tbh |
| 13:27.53 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7409.0 |
| 13:27.57 | cncfanatics | pretty sure it blocks all ports but port 80 in the first place |
| 13:28.45 | cncfanatics | network error: software caused connection abort |
| 13:28.58 | pb_ee1 | Fisker-: i meant that (look at my previous message ;-) ) |
| 13:29.16 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 13:29.53 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: try to connect 193.202.63.7 on port 80, protocol ssh |
| 13:30.07 | Mellow_ | omg, one sec |
| 13:30.13 | Fisker- | btw |
| 13:30.27 | Fisker- | # will on some browsers redirect to the main page |
| 13:30.37 | Fisker- | if you remove it it should go to the page correctly |
| 13:31.24 | mitch0 | cnc: read http://www.meadowy.org/~gotoh/projects/connect, it might help you (there are examples on how to break stupid firewalls with it :) |
| 13:32.09 | cncfanatics | mitch0, i'll check in a sec :) |
| 13:32.35 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, the connection timed out |
| 13:32.37 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: how can you irc if you have only 80 port enabled? |
| 13:32.45 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, IrcAtWork.com |
| 13:32.45 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: i know, im just working on the fw rules |
| 13:32.47 | cncfanatics | web irc client |
| 13:32.52 | Mellow_ | ah makes sense |
| 13:33.55 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 13:34.01 | cncfanatics | let me try to ping something |
| 13:34.04 | cncfanatics | with different ports |
| 13:34.09 | cncfanatics | I'll see right away what ports I can use |
| 13:34.20 | cncfanatics | lal |
| 13:34.24 | cncfanatics | ping is blocked by the proxy |
| 13:34.51 | nevcairiel | its probably only a proxy, ping cannot be proxied |
| 13:35.06 | cncfanatics | well, ping google.be aint working |
| 13:35.15 | Mellow_ | 193.225.218.116 port 80 prot ssh |
| 13:35.29 | cncfanatics | 403 forbidden |
| 13:35.33 | nevcairiel | ping uses the ICMP protocol |
| 13:35.39 | nevcairiel | which cannot be proxied |
| 13:35.41 | nevcairiel | so no chance :) |
| 13:35.47 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: 403 for that host? |
| 13:36.17 | cncfanatics | Mellow_ I got a network error: 403 foridden, thats ity |
| 13:36.21 | cncfanatics | probably for that host yea |
| 13:36.26 | cncfanatics | let me doublecheck username & pw |
| 13:36.44 | cncfanatics | I'm also using the http proxy type |
| 13:36.46 | Mellow_ | then im sorry |
| 13:36.48 | cncfanatics | might be another one, how can I find out ? |
| 13:37.01 | Mellow_ | i dont have a server in us or any other country |
| 13:37.08 | cncfanatics | (i'm in europe) |
| 13:37.20 | Mellow_ | me2 |
| 13:37.22 | Mellow_ | but in hungary |
| 13:37.35 | Mellow_ | i dont think so its limited by hosts.. |
| 13:38.03 | Mellow_ | if you can check the webpage on 80 port, then i guess its filtered by a rule, depends on the data |
| 13:38.27 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp-groundworks15.public.dc.umich.edu) |
| 13:39.13 | *** join/#wowace TheKarn (n=TheKarn@cpc3-glfd1-0-0-cust609.glfd.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:39.44 | cncfanatics | only let http get through |
| 13:39.45 | cncfanatics | makes sense |
| 13:40.11 | Mellow_ | or doesnt support connect method at leat |
| 13:40.12 | Mellow_ | s |
| 13:40.19 | cncfanatics | it sucks :( |
| 13:40.34 | cncfanatics | well, then I need a webbased (or java aplet based, flash whatever) svn client |
| 13:41.32 | Mellow_ | if you open a telnet session to the proxy, and type CONNECT wowace.com:80 HTTP1.0<ENTER><ENTER> |
| 13:41.36 | Mellow_ | it should say forbidden |
| 13:41.54 | *** join/#wowace bindi (i=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 13:42.01 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 13:42.34 | cncfanatics | the proxy doesn't even accept my telnet connection |
| 13:42.45 | Fisker- | lololol |
| 13:42.47 | mitch0 | heh |
| 13:42.51 | Fisker- | Someone got a 3 day ban for "Naga stole my water" |
| 13:42.54 | cncfanatics | http proxy I supose ? |
| 13:43.08 | Mellow_ | yes it should accept :o) |
| 13:43.10 | Health | Naga stole my water? |
| 13:43.22 | Fisker- | yes |
| 13:43.27 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:43.49 | Health | Which is? |
| 13:43.56 | Fisker- | racist |
| 13:44.01 | syeren | Any developer around to help me do a quick bug fix :/? |
| 13:44.28 | syeren | Guess not :p |
| 13:45.17 | charon | "help", "quick", "fix". pick two. |
| 13:45.49 | *** join/#wowace omega (i=omega@numbat.inamo.no) |
| 13:45.51 | krka | that makes no sense |
| 13:46.06 | cog|book | I pick "quick" & "fix" |
| 13:46.11 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (i=me@i577A239D.versanet.de) |
| 13:46.13 | *** kick/#wowace [syeren!n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net] by vhaarr (When you come back, just ask your question and be patient.) |
| 13:46.31 | cncfanatics | telnet webgw.emea.aexp.com: connecting to webgw.emea.aexp.com ... Could not open connection to host, on port 23: connection failed |
| 13:46.50 | Mellow_ | well |
| 13:47.03 | charon | krka: maybe not. or maybe it does if you think in terms of what you have to leave out. either way my jokes probably suck |
| 13:47.06 | Mellow_ | i thought connect to the proxy on the specific port not telnet port |
| 13:47.15 | *** join/#wowace karpadnik (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-5f38edec02466b54) |
| 13:47.43 | mitch0 | is there a way to force a commit even if I don't have any changes in the file? (just to bump the $Rev$ thing for wowi release) |
| 13:47.51 | Mellow_ | anyway: |
| 13:47.56 | Mellow_ | 10.4.4 403 Forbidden |
| 13:47.57 | Mellow_ | The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated. If the request method was not HEAD and the server wishes to make public why the request has not been fulfilled, it SHOULD describe the reason for the refusal in the entity. If the server does not wish to make this information available to the client, the status code 404 (Not Found) can be used instead. |
| 13:48.25 | cncfanatics | thats quite clear |
| 13:48.29 | Mellow_ | so i guess your http proxy doesnt allow to use connect command |
| 13:49.02 | mitch0 | cnc, mellow: try the same via https |
| 13:49.27 | Mellow_ | mitch0: if the proxy doesnt accept connect command, thats it |
| 13:49.29 | mitch0 | (works for me) |
| 13:49.39 | mitch0 | mellow: it can't see the connect command via https |
| 13:49.53 | mitch0 | it just sees encripted traffic via port 443 |
| 13:50.29 | mitch0 | unless it's some super NSA proxy that breaks the SSL keys on the fly or plays some dirty tricks with the SSL negotiation |
| 13:50.58 | cncfanatics | just managed to connect to telnet through port 8080 |
| 13:51.11 | cncfanatics | mitch0, it allows regular https connections through the webbrowser |
| 13:51.14 | cncfanatics | doubt it can make the difference |
| 13:51.24 | cncfanatics | (on port 2096 too, so it must be something else) |
| 13:52.32 | cncfanatics | there's no way it can make the difference with my https mailserver on port 2096 or an ssh connection is there ? |
| 13:52.35 | mitch0 | oh well, it's still not worth all this trouble :) persuade kaelten (or whoever is responsible for the svn repo) to allow access to it via https |
| 13:52.55 | Elkano | well... at least I learned at the university how to break SLL, don't know about you... ;) |
| 13:53.01 | cncfanatics | Elkano, i'm 17 |
| 13:53.29 | cncfanatics | not going to the univ till next year :p |
| 13:53.30 | Pkekyo | is Athou here? |
| 13:53.59 | cncfanatics | btw, if a proxy is between me and a server, and all the connections go through him, cant he intercept the private key anyway ? |
| 13:54.02 | Elkano | hmm... how about trying to connect via a vpn tunnel to another server? |
| 13:54.02 | Mellow_ | mitch0: but for ssh connect, you need to use connect command |
| 13:54.23 | cncfanatics | Elkano, if I knew what a vpn tunnel was |
| 13:54.25 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 13:55.05 | Pkekyo | I have a slight problem with cList2.... when people whisper me !craft whatever... the list of shit I can craft get sent back A FUCKING MILLION TIMES O.o |
| 13:55.27 | Health | THAT IS ALOT OF TIMES |
| 13:55.32 | cncfanatics | YE I AGREE |
| 13:56.05 | cncfanatics | I THINK THE AUTHOR PUT if(GetCVar("Username") == "Pkekyo") then while(true) { ... } somewhere in his code |
| 13:56.42 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r44002 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: bump rev number for wowi release |
| 13:56.50 | kenlyric | it's over 9000 |
| 13:56.52 | Athou | :D |
| 13:56.52 | cncfanatics | btw, could someone give me a quick educations on how proxies work ? |
| 13:56.58 | Elkano | wel, with vpn you can eg build a LAN via internet. if set up correctly eg your requests to the internet will enter the internet at the place where the vpn server is connected and not your place. so if you manage to tunnel through the blocking firewall/proxy these are rendered ineffective |
| 13:57.25 | cncfanatics | virtual private network |
| 13:57.40 | mitch0 | mellow: well, I don't know how, but at least here with this lame MS proxy, connect via HTTPS works, but it doesn't work via plain HTTP. |
| 13:57.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 13:57.59 | cncfanatics | how can I find out what kind of proxy blocks me ? |
| 13:58.22 | Fisker- | FIREFOX FLAMEWAR!!!!!!! |
| 13:58.37 | Wobin | krka: =( "Medeval"? Who pronounces Medieval with three syllables? =\ |
| 13:58.48 | Elkano | trace maybe? |
| 13:58.56 | mitch0 | cncfanatics: should be there at the end of the 403 page |
| 13:59.17 | Mellow_ | mitch0: to be honest, i never had to play with proxies, so i dont know, i only know squid accept connect commands with plain http, if you configure it in that way |
| 13:59.37 | Fisker- | yay |
| 13:59.43 | Fisker- | got the last word in a firefox flamewar |
| 13:59.45 | Fisker- | IE won! |
| 13:59.48 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: we can try to open a 443 port on my server, redirect it to 22 |
| 14:00.13 | cncfanatics | Generated Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:58:43 GMT by btn-ahpxyce1 (Application and Content Networking System Software 5.3.9) |
| 14:00.23 | Fisker- | if you need a ssh running 443 i have one |
| 14:00.28 | krka | wobin, i typod that? |
| 14:00.31 | krka | if so, sorry :) |
| 14:01.19 | cncfanatics | anyone gimme a clue what kind or proxy that is :p |
| 14:01.46 | nevcairiel | a cisco proxy |
| 14:01.46 | mitch0 | cnc: never heard of it :) |
| 14:01.48 | cncfanatics | (I have no experience with proxies whatsoever either btw) |
| 14:02.02 | nevcairiel | that thing is expensive |
| 14:02.06 | mitch0 | haha |
| 14:02.08 | cncfanatics | american express -.- |
| 14:02.12 | cncfanatics | kinda obvious |
| 14:02.26 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, how do I hack that expensive thing ? |
| 14:02.34 | nevcairiel | Cisco ACNS .. hardware solution .. i think you hit a brick wall there =P |
| 14:03.03 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 14:03.11 | cncfanatics | then the only option is a java aplet svn client ? |
| 14:03.23 | mitch0 | cnc: have you tried with the 443 -> 22 redirect thing? |
| 14:03.32 | cncfanatics | mitch0, no idea how to do that (a) |
| 14:03.36 | cncfanatics | tell me what to type in putty heh |
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| 14:04.30 | Wobin | krka: Nah, in the video they say "I'm a medival man" |
| 14:04.44 | mitch0 | mellow sets up sshd on port 443 (or redirects 443 to his port22) and you try to ssh to his box on port 443 using your proxy |
| 14:04.49 | krka | oic |
| 14:04.53 | krka | how do you say it? |
| 14:04.58 | Wobin | Med-i-eval |
| 14:05.07 | Wobin | four syllables |
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| 14:05.39 | Pkekyo | does resilience really serve any purpose in pve? |
| 14:05.40 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, how hard is it to dynamite said wall ? |
| 14:06.07 | Wobin | Resilience soaks crits, doesn't it? |
| 14:06.18 | Fisker- | mitch0 port 443 shouldn't be filtered |
| 14:06.25 | Fisker- | So he should be able to ssh to it without a proxy |
| 14:06.30 | Fisker- | make a tunnel from that |
| 14:06.52 | mitch0 | fisker: not if the firewall allows outbound traffic only from the proxy server (as in our case, for example) |
| 14:07.07 | Garns | defense does as well and defense does it better + resilience equip is normally rather low on mitigation |
| 14:07.23 | mitch0 | I have a seriousle fsckd up setup here just to be able to commit and irc from work :) |
| 14:07.52 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r44003 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Eww! Horrible hack to only show target or focus (or both!) |
| 14:07.57 | Pkekyo | well, I'm immune to crits due to defense soeh... :> |
| 14:08.37 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p54858CE1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:09.16 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r44004 10ItemValue/ (Class_Formula.lua Class_StatSet.lua): |
| 14:09.16 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 14:09.16 | CIA-22 | - Added IGNOREARMOR to StatSet |
| 14:09.16 | CIA-22 | - Bugfix in Formula Set |
| 14:09.34 | Codayus | Resillience is useless for tanks. The big thing it does that defense doesn't is stop *spells* from critting. |
| 14:09.40 | Codayus | ...mob spells can't crit though. |
| 14:10.41 | pb_ee1 | anyone played Test Drive Unlimited? |
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| 14:11.12 | Codayus | I believe druids sometimes use resilience in combination with defense to hit crit immunity due to limited bear tank itemization though. |
| 14:12.04 | [dRaCo] | arena items are quite useful as a bear once you hit the def cap (490 for druids, afaik) |
| 14:12.13 | [dRaCo] | since they got lots of stamina and armor |
| 14:12.16 | cncfanatics | 490 is for warriors |
| 14:12.17 | cncfanatics | and palas |
| 14:12.29 | Codayus | Druids have a lower cap due to some talent...I think? |
| 14:12.32 | cncfanatics | now someone tell me how to break this proxy :( I want to commit heh |
| 14:12.34 | Codayus | I dunno, I just know warrior mechanics. |
| 14:12.37 | cncfanatics | yea, -3% chance to be crit talent |
| 14:12.47 | cncfanatics | and both paladins & warriors get a 20 defense talent, but thats one included in the character sheet |
| 14:13.03 | [dRaCo] | so the druid cap is lower? |
| 14:13.06 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 14:13.17 | [dRaCo] | k |
| 14:13.32 | cncfanatics | 490 is 5.6% |
| 14:13.40 | cncfanatics | thats warriors & palas |
| 14:13.46 | cncfanatics | 350 is 0 |
| 14:13.49 | cncfanatics | so u can calculate how much druids need |
| 14:13.51 | cncfanatics | 2.6% from def |
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| 14:14.05 | cncfanatics | thats 65 defense from gear (not rating) |
| 14:14.28 | sylvanaar | finally, have the stupid update working for running apps |
| 14:14.34 | [dRaCo] | how much rating is 1 def? |
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| 14:15.06 | *** join/#wowace ScoTTie (i=skotty@unaffiliated/scottie) |
| 14:15.30 | cncfanatics | check in ratinbuster readme |
| 14:15.33 | Daemona | hmmm i managed to get my wow freezing by clicking on "take cash" in BulkmailInbox |
| 14:15.34 | Daemona | ^^ |
| 14:15.49 | charon | [dRaCo]: 2.4 i'd say |
| 14:15.55 | Pkekyo | 416 is the druid defense cap if specced in the crit reduction talent |
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| 14:17.03 | Mellow_ | sorry i got a call |
| 14:17.10 | Mellow_ | so does it work? |
| 14:17.11 | charon | Pkekyo: 415 |
| 14:17.16 | Pkekyo | anyways...blizz reduced the chance to get rare gems from prospecting adamantite since release, didn't they? |
| 14:17.37 | Kalman| | Was significantly increased, iirc. |
| 14:17.39 | Codayus | I vaguely have the feeling it increased? |
| 14:18.01 | Pkekyo | I got fuckloads of rares back in the days, now I'm lucky if I get one rare out of four stacks |
| 14:18.18 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, the RNG aint with you |
| 14:18.22 | cncfanatics | may the RNG be with you rofl |
| 14:18.47 | Kalman| | Pkekyo: The rate was increased. You might just be having bad luck, but you should see ~1 blue per stack of ore, which is about what I see. |
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| 14:19.01 | Codayus | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t13043-what_better_prospect_fel_iron_adamantite_ores/ |
| 14:19.12 | Codayus | More info than you ever wanted on the current odds of gems from ore. |
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| 14:19.33 | yacoob | if we don't want it, why do you paste it here then? :D |
| 14:19.45 | Codayus | I like giving people what they don't want! |
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| 14:19.52 | Grum | Codayus: without reading it, wasn't it like 22% on adamantite and .. low on feliron for the 'bigger' gems? :P |
| 14:19.55 | yacoob | great! |
| 14:19.56 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: is it working now? |
| 14:19.57 | Pkekyo | lately it've seemed more like 1 blue per 4-6 stacks of ore >.< |
| 14:20.09 | Codayus | But yes, you should see 1 blue gem per full stack of adsamntite ore. |
| 14:20.11 | yacoob | I so do not want a fat lump of pure gold. |
| 14:20.33 | cncfanatics | Mellow_ didnt have time to check yet |
| 14:20.36 | cncfanatics | too much incoming calls |
| 14:20.50 | Codayus | (The chance of a blue gem in fel iron is about 1/4th as high) |
| 14:23.06 | abbat_w | damn |
| 14:23.11 | abbat_w | i hate you guys all |
| 14:23.24 | abbat_w | this day i didn't work |
| 14:23.27 | abbat_w | i make addon ;) |
| 14:24.02 | Grum | Pkekyo: if you were prospecting Fel Iron that is correct =D |
| 14:24.04 | abbat_w | and now i'll go to home for test it :) |
| 14:24.51 | Grum | btw someone said if i'd wanted to start on any addon work I should get 'devtools' .. i assumed that is an addon and after looking around it just provides me with /dump - is this the thing mentioned? :P |
| 14:25.18 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44005 10Talented_Data/ (4 files): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 14:25.25 | abbat_w | i wrote 'simplepettimer' ;) |
| 14:25.33 | Esteth | Hey all. I'm not new at all to programming, but i havn't touched LUA or the ACE2 Libraries before, although i know a little of how addons work. I'd love to have a go at developing WoW addons, and i'm wonering if anyone could point me in the right direction :) |
| 14:25.36 | abbat_w | and i hope it's can work ;) |
| 14:25.38 | mitch0 | grum: I don't have devtools, and I got along well enough ;) |
| 14:25.55 | cncfanatics | Esteth, depends what you need help with |
| 14:25.56 | Grum | ah well having something which 'dumps' is always nice ofc |
| 14:25.59 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=ordog@port-87-234-85-114.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:26.01 | cncfanatics | just the basics ? |
| 14:26.15 | Mellow_ | same here, if you want my help, jut ping me |
| 14:26.16 | Mellow_ | s |
| 14:26.40 | mitch0 | uh-oh... http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Tutorials was badly severed :( |
| 14:26.53 | abbat_w | guys! |
| 14:26.54 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon does it |
| 14:26.56 | Esteth | cncfanatics: Yes, Ideally a tutorial or documentation resource with enough information to let me develop, say, a fubar plugin that displays "hello world" in chat when i click it, or something simple like that :) |
| 14:27.04 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon :) |
| 14:27.08 | abbat_w | which one called first, :OnInitialize() or :OnEnable() ? |
| 14:27.14 | cncfanatics | displays a message when yea hearth if I remember well |
| 14:27.18 | cncfanatics | Mellow_ |
| 14:27.30 | Esteth | thanks cncfanatics :) |
| 14:27.38 | cncfanatics | could you /msg me with a step by step guide on how to break the irritating hardware proxy nevcaireil says I can't get around for dummoes ? |
| 14:27.48 | cncfanatics | s/dommoes/dummies |
| 14:27.55 | cncfanatics | s/dommoes/dummies/ |
| 14:27.59 | cncfanatics | grr |
| 14:28.08 | Grum | lol |
| 14:28.12 | abbat_w | i hope :OnInitialize() called before :OnEnable() |
| 14:28.26 | Grum | i'd be hoping that too ;) |
| 14:28.45 | Grum | but it might only initalize after it's been enabled ;D |
| 14:29.10 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (i=Hjalte@0x57317e26.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 14:29.16 | mitch0 | that reminds me, I should convert my addon to be based on AceAddon |
| 14:29.25 | mitch0 | and AceDB |
| 14:29.40 | *** join/#wowace Mok724 (n=Miranda@p54BAFDC7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:29.40 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 14:29.48 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: i have no idea, im not a hacker :) |
| 14:29.48 | abbat_w | i use acedb in my first addon ;) |
| 14:30.02 | Grum | gah! now i have to look up what AceDB is ! |
| 14:30.04 | mitch0 | I couldn't be arsed to read up on it. then the wiki died :) |
| 14:30.34 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, how would you do it if stuck at work ? :p |
| 14:30.52 | cncfanatics | and absolutely need to get on svn, but a hardware rooter is blocking you |
| 14:31.04 | cncfanatics | s/rooter/proxy/ |
| 14:31.19 | dodgizzla | cncfanatics: Apache-Proxy :D |
| 14:31.38 | Mellow_ | well, i would kick the admin's ass :D |
| 14:32.29 | Mellow_ | if its not an option, pub should solve any social problem :o) |
| 14:33.17 | Grum | or more kicking |
| 14:33.52 | Mellow_ | probably |
| 14:35.07 | *** join/#wowace Kody (n=kody@adsl-71-141-100-249.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 14:35.08 | Grum | mm now i need to think of a useful addon to make which isn't too hard :D |
| 14:36.24 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, i'm new at this work |
| 14:36.29 | cncfanatics | so can't rly ask that heh |
| 14:36.52 | cncfanatics | Grum, you can make an addon, each time you kill a boss, it asks you what ur gonna oneshot next with a fancy popup |
| 14:36.58 | cncfanatics | u dont have to actualy make anything with it |
| 14:37.03 | cncfanatics | but its a good training with events & stuff imo |
| 14:37.05 | Hjalte | What addon is used to show the box below the actual item tooltip? http://www.worldofraids.com/news/warlockt6change.jpg |
| 14:37.21 | Grum | mm then i need to know which mobs are bosses ..:D |
| 14:37.23 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, I think thats auctioneer |
| 14:37.31 | cncfanatics | Grum, whatever is level 73 |
| 14:37.37 | cncfanatics | is either a boss or its adds |
| 14:37.42 | cncfanatics | (most adds are lvl 72 though) |
| 14:38.08 | Grum | true |
| 14:38.13 | Grum | but i rather make something remotely useful ;D |
| 14:38.14 | dodgizzla | Grum: Make 2 additions to Prat :D 1: Flash a chat tab on message, if the chat channel is guild/officer, party/raid or whisper and 2: Make it so right-clicking the bottom button "minimizes" the chat frames :> |
| 14:38.29 | Mellow_ | if you are quite new, why are you coding wowaddon instead of your work(i guess thats not your job) |
| 14:38.47 | Mellow_ | anyway, we could try to open an ssh port on 443 |
| 14:38.49 | Codayus | Grum: What class do you play? |
| 14:38.51 | Mellow_ | and hope the best |
| 14:38.53 | Grum | Priest |
| 14:38.59 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, student job |
| 14:39.04 | Codayus | Hm, shadow? |
| 14:39.07 | cncfanatics | and I dont got shit to do when I dont get phone calls |
| 14:39.13 | Grum | nope, smiter =D |
| 14:39.18 | Codayus | Oo |
| 14:39.20 | Mellow_ | ehlpdesk? |
| 14:39.21 | Grum | nah healing boring holy one ;D |
| 14:39.24 | Mellow_ | helpdesk |
| 14:39.24 | *** join/#wowace pushpop (n=marc@pool-71-125-51-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:39.31 | Codayus | Ah, hm |
| 14:39.44 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r44006 10beql/ (beql.lua extra/beqlfu.lua questlog.lua tracker.lua): |
| 14:39.44 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 14:39.44 | CIA-22 | - Craig Coleman's changes: |
| 14:39.44 | CIA-22 | - GetNumQuestLogEntries() change to accept both return values |
| 14:39.44 | CIA-22 | - Fubar plugin text questnum indicator |
| 14:39.47 | cncfanatics | Mellow_ yea |
| 14:39.52 | cncfanatics | american express help desk |
| 14:39.54 | nevcairiel | UnitClassification() will return "worldboss" for actual bosses ... no stupid level hax0ring :P |
| 14:40.02 | *** part/#wowace pushpop (n=marc@pool-71-125-51-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:40.17 | Mellow_ | hm, i guess i couldnt be a helpdesk |
| 14:40.47 | Mellow_ | it would drive me crazy if somebody call me ask the same question 3 times, even if i already answered it |
| 14:40.57 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, heh |
| 14:41.03 | cncfanatics | stupid ppl ftw |
| 14:41.04 | *** join/#wowace sergio (n=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
| 14:41.13 | cncfanatics | tbh, when I get that kind of people I jsut keep doing my coding |
| 14:41.20 | cncfanatics | and answer them at the same time, its always the same anyway |
| 14:41.39 | Grum | so you might be their reason for calling back? ;D |
| 14:41.46 | Mellow_ | but you know, i have a helpdesk friend working for one of the biggest hungarian isp |
| 14:42.05 | cncfanatics | Grum, its not like I care though |
| 14:42.09 | Mellow_ | and he got some call like: hey i have no internet |
| 14:42.11 | cncfanatics | I'm here for two more weeks then i'm gone with my bucks |
| 14:42.20 | Mellow_ | ok whats the problem? |
| 14:42.30 | Mellow_ | i have NO INTERNET |
| 14:42.57 | Mellow_ | and after turned out his router was plugged out.... |
| 14:43.03 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 14:43.14 | Grum | duh routers cost money |
| 14:43.19 | Grum | so you turn them off when you are not using it |
| 14:43.27 | Grum | and you dont use them for tehintarwab! |
| 14:43.28 | cncfanatics | still not as much fun as people shouting at u though , while u got nothing to do with it |
| 14:43.33 | Mellow_ | he turned out on purpose |
| 14:43.44 | Mellow_ | he couldnt sleep because of the lights rotfl |
| 14:43.51 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.56 | Esteth | =( |
| 14:43.57 | Grum | 'Get a bigger home sir' |
| 14:44.01 | cncfanatics | what was the guys name if u know it ? :p |
| 14:44.03 | Mellow_ | ^^ |
| 14:44.08 | cncfanatics | ~slap Stupid people calling a helpdesk |
| 14:44.09 | purl | ACTION slaps Stupid people calling a helpdesk, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:44.09 | Esteth | I do the same, turn things off because the lights stop me getting to sleep :P |
| 14:44.28 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: they shouldnt ask for name |
| 14:44.31 | cncfanatics | Esteth, I sleep with a computer next to me, while its on |
| 14:44.40 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, most people tell their name when they call u anyway |
| 14:44.44 | Grum | 'Stupid moon, off I tell you .. OFF!' |
| 14:44.46 | cncfanatics | at least here in belgium they do |
| 14:45.00 | Mellow_ | yes but if you got 30 calls in a day, would you remember for it? |
| 14:45.03 | cncfanatics | phone call, brb |
| 14:45.07 | Grum | lol |
| 14:45.13 | Grum | be nice! kill them from behind |
| 14:45.18 | Mellow_ | :DD |
| 14:45.24 | Esteth | cncfanatics: I only do that while i'm defragging and stuff, although my computer's quite quiet normally, it's the little blue flashy light on the front :P |
| 14:45.38 | Grum | stickers do magic |
| 14:45.49 | Mellow_ | i have a very fancy LED in my cpu cooler |
| 14:46.03 | Mellow_ | (unfortunately i couldnt buy one without LED) |
| 14:46.10 | Grum | nothing a hammer cant solve |
| 14:46.10 | Mellow_ | and sometimes its hard to sleep :) |
| 14:46.14 | Mellow_ | D:DDDD |
| 14:46.15 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, I do remember the most stupid people |
| 14:46.17 | Mellow_ | true |
| 14:46.30 | Grum | tell us some stories, entertain us! |
| 14:46.34 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 14:46.36 | Mellow_ | yep |
| 14:46.37 | cncfanatics | I'm on an amex computer |
| 14:46.44 | cncfanatics | and suposed not to tell anything about amex client calls |
| 14:46.51 | cncfanatics | not smart to do it while I pass through an amex proxy is it ? |
| 14:47.05 | Grum | most of the times i actually end up calling a helpdesk I already know exactly what they will say and that it is not my fault and basicly start the conversation with: Can you please connect me to your second line support. Thanks! |
| 14:47.42 | cncfanatics | Grum, now thats nice of you |
| 14:47.53 | cncfanatics | one more phone call done and just one transfer to do to keep on chatting |
| 14:48.01 | Grum | :) |
| 14:48.21 | Grum | but sometimes they claim they dont have second line .. and then i prepare to cry |
| 14:48.43 | Grum | 'so all of you people are equally stupid? .. *whine*' |
| 14:48.52 | Mellow_ | im doing a 2nd line support, not even better :) |
| 14:49.13 | Grum | oh well if I know there is a tech support line too .. well .. i'll ask for that ;D |
| 14:49.54 | Saroz | wtf is port 35764, anyone know? |
| 14:49.56 | Grum | always fun to ask: 'which department am i talking to now?', the second you get transferred |
| 14:50.06 | Grum | it's the port before 35765 i reckon |
| 14:50.12 | Fisker- | Saroz it's a private range port |
| 14:50.18 | Fisker- | so could be anything |
| 14:50.42 | Grum | so now rephrase your question so we can answer it |
| 14:51.02 | Mellow_ | :D |
| 14:51.08 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 14:51.09 | Mellow_ | real it ppl |
| 14:51.09 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 14:51.24 | Grum | I see in *name spot* that something (give info about it!) is using port # (inbound outbound tcp udp .. it matters!) |
| 14:51.45 | Grum | add something about what you have done (googled?) and euuh what info you want from us ;D |
| 14:52.09 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 14:52.09 | cncfanatics | Grum, what is a second line support ? :o |
| 14:52.12 | cncfanatics | doubt we got that here tbh |
| 14:52.12 | Mellow_ | like a unix sysadmin :) |
| 14:52.15 | cncfanatics | but I probably just dunno the term |
| 14:52.28 | Grum | because '<Grum> it's the port before 35765 i reckon' is a very valid answer to your question .. but no doubt not what you are looking for ;) |
| 14:52.36 | Saroz | my computer is making a TON of connections from 35764 to random ports |
| 14:52.42 | Saroz | to mostly danish adresses |
| 14:53.01 | Grum | tcp? |
| 14:53.02 | Mellow_ | maybe you have an open port? |
| 14:53.05 | Saroz | udp |
| 14:53.10 | Saroz | no idea what it is |
| 14:53.12 | Saroz | like 1000 conns |
| 14:53.19 | Grum | good that was my next question ;D |
| 14:53.20 | cncfanatics | Saroz, get ettercap, see what the conns do |
| 14:53.23 | Esteth | try closing it and seeing what breaks? |
| 14:53.36 | Saroz | ettercap for windows? |
| 14:53.38 | cncfanatics | Esteth, I'd get ettercap and see what is sending through them |
| 14:53.43 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=ordog@port-87-234-85-114.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:53.44 | Mellow_ | wireshark |
| 14:53.51 | cncfanatics | before closing them, always nice to be curious |
| 14:53.55 | Chompers | the danish are attacking |
| 14:53.58 | Grum | you using windows i presume? |
| 14:53.59 | cncfanatics | there's a windows version at ettercap.sf.net if I remember well |
| 14:54.06 | Esteth | cncfanatics: true, being nosy is fun :) |
| 14:54.10 | Mellow_ | wireshark is multiplatform |
| 14:54.10 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 14:54.11 | Chompers | they want their delicious bacon back |
| 14:54.18 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 14:54.22 | cncfanatics | work done in 5 mins |
| 14:54.22 | Saroz | getting wireshark |
| 14:54.25 | cncfanatics | I'll get to serious coding tonight |
| 14:54.50 | cncfanatics | Saroz, if you want (if its not sending sensitive data), please paste what it sends here |
| 14:54.52 | Grum | Saroz: you running anything that could possibly cause it? anything auto-updating, torrentz, tor, whatever? |
| 14:54.54 | cncfanatics | I'm getting curious |
| 14:55.10 | cncfanatics | auto-update wouldntrun 1k connects |
| 14:55.14 | cncfanatics | a torrent could |
| 14:55.15 | Mellow_ | seems lik a torrent port |
| 14:55.32 | cncfanatics | could be anything |
| 14:55.35 | Mellow_ | but does torrent use udp? |
| 14:55.46 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-088-076-052-213.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:56.02 | Matrix110 | lets ask Wikipedia! |
| 14:56.26 | Saroz | grum, nah checked, nothing I can think of |
| 14:56.29 | Matrix110 | no hit for udp on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent so no:P |
| 14:56.43 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=ordog@port-87-234-85-114.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:56.50 | ccKep | netstat /o prints pid of the process associated to the connection -> compare to what task manager says ;) |
| 14:57.36 | *** join/#wowace dabujo_ (i=xx@p54ACBAE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:57.41 | cncfanatics | much handyer to check such stuff on linux |
| 14:57.44 | cncfanatics | so much easyer |
| 14:57.55 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 14:57.56 | cncfanatics | work done |
| 14:58.27 | Saroz | gah! binary shit |
| 14:59.26 | cncfanatics | Saroz, a virus would probably send stuff plaintext (well, at least most do) |
| 14:59.33 | Mellow_ | what did you expect? |
| 14:59.33 | cncfanatics | check what pid is connected to it |
| 14:59.37 | cncfanatics | with /netstat |
| 14:59.51 | Matrix110 | netstat -b |
| 14:59.53 | Mellow_ | - hello http server, may i get files.wowace.com? |
| 14:59.59 | Mellow_ | - sure, here it is, <html.... |
| 15:00.10 | *** part/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 15:00.12 | cncfanatics | Mellow_, html protocol is still full plaintext :p |
| 15:00.13 | Mellow_ | of coruse its binary ^^ |
| 15:00.14 | cncfanatics | except if gzipped |
| 15:00.16 | Grum | yeah linux would be easy, 'lsof' ftw :) |
| 15:00.17 | cncfanatics | but now bye |
| 15:00.32 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: plaintext, but not the tcp frames |
| 15:00.44 | Grum | it's binary ;D |
| 15:00.48 | Saroz | PID is 0 |
| 15:01.03 | Saroz | TIME_WAIT |
| 15:01.07 | Grum | PID 0 is causing UDP outbound connections? O.o |
| 15:01.35 | Saroz | TCP foo:35764 plc22-149.linzag.net:1449 TIME_WAIT |
| 15:01.36 | Matrix110 | do netstat -b looks better:P |
| 15:01.52 | Mellow_ | this is tcp isnt it? |
| 15:02.21 | ccKep | pid field is missing there? |
| 15:02.26 | Saroz | it's 0 |
| 15:02.33 | ccKep | for all the conns? |
| 15:02.43 | Josh_Borke | wasn't there a function added in 2.1 to determine when you had logged in? |
| 15:02.50 | Saroz | no for these conns |
| 15:02.53 | Matrix110 | do netstat -b then jt shkws the process name aswell:P |
| 15:03.04 | Saroz | no process name |
| 15:03.13 | Killmore7 | anyone know an addon (like Chronometer, dottimer) but to track the debuff on my target that I want to see ? like sunder, curse of shadow, shadow weaving etc.. ??? |
| 15:03.13 | krka | Josh_Borke: wait for the event? |
| 15:03.14 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: Force your users to login at bootup and use GetTime :-p |
| 15:03.15 | Matrix110 | :-( |
| 15:03.27 | Mellow_ | works for me |
| 15:03.39 | Mellow_ | netstat -nb? |
| 15:03.48 | Grum | but erm .. you just said UDP .. and that log shows TCP ... |
| 15:04.00 | Josh_Borke | hrmph |
| 15:04.14 | Mellow_ | [17:01:44] < Mellow_> this is tcp isnt it? |
| 15:04.21 | Mellow_ | thats what i asked before |
| 15:04.21 | Grum | yes yes i was still reading back |
| 15:04.33 | dodgizzla | Killmore7: DebuffFilter e.g. |
| 15:04.42 | krka | Josh_Borke: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:04.48 | Jaxon | Killmore7: I believe NECB can blacklist things you DON'T want to see, seems the long way around though. |
| 15:05.05 | Mellow_ | Saroz: do you have a torrent client running? |
| 15:05.06 | Saroz | closed firefox, it stopped in netstat, opened firefox on google, started |
| 15:05.07 | Killmore7 | dodgizzla: thx, i will try |
| 15:05.19 | Saroz | Mellow_, not for hours |
| 15:05.22 | Grum | Mellow_: i'd expect it to be torrent indeed, (or emule or whatever kind of sharing program) |
| 15:05.29 | Mellow_ | p2p |
| 15:05.37 | Grum | are you sure it is terminated Saroz ? :) |
| 15:05.42 | Mellow_ | :D |
| 15:05.42 | Saroz | yus |
| 15:05.45 | Saroz | utorrent is gone |
| 15:05.45 | Saroz | kk |
| 15:05.54 | Mellow_ | not minimized on taskbar |
| 15:05.55 | Grum | eviltorrentingpeople! |
| 15:05.59 | Chompers | does a spyware scan Saroz? |
| 15:06.00 | Saroz | man I'm not that stupid :p |
| 15:06.05 | Saroz | yea guess I should |
| 15:06.07 | Mellow_ | anyway netsat -nb should report process name as well |
| 15:06.09 | Grum | well you named something UDP while it was TCP |
| 15:06.13 | Saroz | whats a good tool these days? |
| 15:06.18 | Mellow_ | Grum: :DDDDDDDD |
| 15:06.18 | Grum | linux ;D |
| 15:06.22 | Matrix110 | Spybot Search and Destroy |
| 15:06.24 | Matrix110 | Adaware |
| 15:06.36 | Esteth | I second spybot S&D :) |
| 15:06.40 | Matrix110 | www.spybot.info www.lavasoft.se |
| 15:06.48 | *** join/#wowace k_d|3 (n=kd3@host-69-59-74-241.nctv.com) |
| 15:06.55 | Matrix110 | *lavasoft.com |
| 15:07.01 | Mellow_ | dont you have a firewall? |
| 15:07.09 | Grum | ofc not |
| 15:07.23 | Saroz | firewalls suck |
| 15:07.27 | Grum | mm i do have a firewall and it's called 'Brains' |
| 15:07.31 | charon | Saroz: sockets can remain in a TIME_WAIT state for a few minutes, still blocking the port, even after the process terminates. could that be where your 0 PIDs come from? |
| 15:07.39 | Mellow_ | unknown data traffic on your port suck as well |
| 15:07.53 | Grum | well TIME_WAIT basicly says no traffic :) |
| 15:08.04 | Grum | mmm that is not completely true |
| 15:08.06 | Mellow_ | he copied only 1 line |
| 15:08.44 | Grum | one more reason not to use torrents .. it connects all over the place ;D |
| 15:08.46 | Mellow_ | are you running wow on linux Grum ? |
| 15:08.56 | Grum | nope, did have that a year back orso |
| 15:08.59 | Grum | cedega++ |
| 15:09.13 | Saroz | doing an online virusscan now :p |
| 15:09.19 | krka | wine++ |
| 15:09.20 | Esteth | I think wine runs WoW fairly flawlessly too, now :) |
| 15:09.31 | Grum | now yes .. then .. LOL! *cry* |
| 15:09.32 | Mellow_ | is cedega faster? |
| 15:09.34 | Fisker- | Windows Defender!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:09.38 | Mellow_ | i mean does it worth? |
| 15:10.04 | Chompers | don't you have anti-virus software installed Saroz? |
| 15:10.07 | Esteth | Cedega is a glorifed fork of wine. They focus more on game compatibility. It's easier to use, but i don't think it's faster |
| 15:10.08 | Saroz | ye I do |
| 15:10.10 | Saroz | but meh |
| 15:10.25 | Chompers | it might be compromised |
| 15:10.28 | Chompers | fair enough |
| 15:10.38 | Mellow_ | anti-virus not enough i think, firewall highly recommended |
| 15:10.56 | Chompers | do routers act as a firewall? |
| 15:11.00 | Matrix110 | not all |
| 15:11.06 | Cryect | depends how its setup |
| 15:11.13 | Matrix110 | and they just got sucky portblocking |
| 15:11.20 | Mellow_ | Esteth: why would i pay for that software which is available for me for free, but i have to read the manual? |
| 15:11.22 | Cryect | if you have yourself setup as DMZ then definately no :-p |
| 15:11.29 | Mellow_ | it should be faster i think |
| 15:11.51 | Grum | i'd just install Brains |
| 15:11.54 | Grum | makes stuff go better |
| 15:11.55 | Mellow_ | :D |
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| 15:12.20 | Mellow_ | but wow updater uses torrent as well... |
| 15:12.26 | Esteth | Mellow_: It's more compatible, definately. They also have "official support" on certain games, and make sure support for those games doesnt break. |
| 15:12.52 | Esteth | Mellow_: I don't have much experience with it, but maybe my computer was fast enough not to notice a difference? |
| 15:13.03 | Mellow_ | ok |
| 15:14.05 | Pkekyo | PORR OCH GODIS |
| 15:14.14 | Matrix110 | drugs are bad |
| 15:15.35 | Pkekyo | mmmmmkeey |
| 15:15.43 | Mellow_ | thanks Esteth i will stay with wine i guess |
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| 15:16.03 | Grum | i'd go with the one you can play wow on |
| 15:16.22 | Pkekyo | I never got wow+wine to work :< |
| 15:16.32 | Mellow_ | to be honest i dont have a working linux at home |
| 15:16.48 | Kaydeethree | meh. I've been playing wow in wine since forever |
| 15:17.38 | Mellow_ | about 1,5 years ago? i tried to play under linux, but the login screen was toooooo slow for me |
| 15:17.53 | Grum | cure is: OpenGL = 1 orso in the config ;) |
| 15:18.07 | Mellow_ | tell me the secret :) |
| 15:18.23 | Mellow_ | i found an article on wowwiki, looks okay i will give it a chance |
| 15:18.25 | Kaydeethree | open up config.wtf: SET gxApi "opengl" |
| 15:18.40 | Kaydeethree | that's all there is to it. the article on wowwiki works for the majority of people |
| 15:18.46 | Mellow_ | i have to install linux firt |
| 15:18.48 | Kaydeethree | just be sure you've got the proprietary drivers installed |
| 15:18.54 | Grum | Mellow_: how is that a problem? :) |
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| 15:19.01 | Chompers | aren't firewalls useless for most people? |
| 15:19.03 | Grum | download any ubuntu live cd and done! |
| 15:19.12 | Grum | Chompers: finally someone that understands it .. YES they are |
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| 15:19.18 | Chompers | it's not like your average person knows how to set one up correctly |
| 15:19.19 | Mellow_ | i never installed ubuntu |
| 15:19.21 | Matrix110 | Chompers for 99% of the INternet Users they arent useless and prevent stupid things :P |
| 15:19.21 | Grum | provided you have Brains installed |
| 15:19.58 | Mellow_ | and not a big fan of ubuntu :) |
| 15:20.02 | Matrix110 | But well programs consider it a "ADVANCED Installation" when i choose the path where to install it... |
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| 15:20.21 | Bayi | hi |
| 15:20.34 | Grum | Mellow_: it works even for stupid people |
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| 15:21.06 | Matrix110 | Stupid people call the customer Service because they dont find the "Any" key on their Keyboard... |
| 15:21.08 | Mellow_ | havent tried it, and no plan for it |
| 15:21.17 | Matrix110 | i doubt they can install a OS :P |
| 15:22.04 | Chompers | so how should a firewall be set up? |
| 15:22.05 | Esteth | Matrix110: This is simple though :) |
| 15:22.14 | Chompers | i've never actually spoken to anyone about them before |
| 15:22.19 | Mellow_ | last time when i tried to help my friendwith an nvidia driver install on debian i just realised how lazy am i after using gentoo for a while |
| 15:22.23 | Esteth | Matrix110: Press where you live on a picture of the earth. Say "do it all for me" |
| 15:22.40 | Mellow_ | Chompers: you should choose a firewall what is suitable for you |
| 15:22.46 | Grum | Mellow_: oh well it's not that bad on debian either |
| 15:22.57 | Grum | it somewhat depends how you do it ;) |
| 15:22.59 | Mellow_ | personally ive read lot of articles about firewall tests |
| 15:23.17 | Mellow_ | yes but on gentoo emerge -av nvidia-drivers or something like that |
| 15:23.30 | Mellow_ | on debian you had to download the driver, install the kernel source so foryth |
| 15:23.33 | Mellow_ | -y |
| 15:23.53 | Mellow_ | i used debian more than 5 yrs before |
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| 15:25.00 | Grum | anyhow, i personally think a firewall is rather useless unless you are connected directly to the internet - but most people arent |
| 15:25.24 | Mellow_ | i have a router, and i have a firewall |
| 15:25.26 | Grum | most modems have NAT for a small network behind it so firewalls get rather useles then |
| 15:25.38 | Mellow_ | because my isp, provided a router, and doesnt provided a password for it! |
| 15:26.00 | Mellow_ | when i asked them whats the password they todl me, password is not for you, its for us |
| 15:26.03 | Matrix110 | Well application based Firewalls are quite nice even if you have a router |
| 15:26.11 | Mellow_ | if you need a port forward, call us, and we will setup |
| 15:26.14 | Mellow_ | omg? |
| 15:26.31 | Mellow_ | Matrix110: thats true, but if you have a brain you dont need that function :) |
| 15:26.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Mellow_: did you pay a deposit for the router? |
| 15:26.46 | Mellow_ | nope |
| 15:26.47 | sag_ich_nicht | because in that case the router is NOT owned by you |
| 15:26.53 | Grum | Mellow_: call em and say: forward everything to *local linux box* and do it from there yourself :D |
| 15:26.53 | sag_ich_nicht | it is owned by your ISP |
| 15:26.57 | sag_ich_nicht | just just rent it from them |
| 15:26.57 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 15:27.12 | Mellow_ | Grum: i have a dmz |
| 15:27.13 | Matrix110 | Well if you want Program X you are using NOT to connect Inet the Firewall is the easiest way tbh :P |
| 15:27.23 | Mellow_ | my pc has been setup in the dmz zone so not a problem |
| 15:27.26 | Mellow_ | but its so smart |
| 15:27.34 | Matrix110 | everything else takes more work then clicking "no" :P |
| 15:28.06 | Mellow_ | and the best: i called them 5 times, they didnt pickup the line 3 times |
| 15:28.18 | sylvanaar | selective portforwards is the best way i have found |
| 15:28.27 | Matrix110 | I think i would call the ISP everyday |
| 15:28.33 | Mellow_ | :D |
| 15:28.36 | Matrix110 | Open Port 17443 please |
| 15:28.39 | Mellow_ | yes good idea |
| 15:28.45 | Matrix110 | Close Port 17443 again |
| 15:28.50 | Mellow_ | but you know i have to pay for the calls |
| 15:28.53 | Matrix110 | Open port 28743 now |
| 15:29.00 | Matrix110 | Then your ISP sucks:P |
| 15:29.15 | Grum | open port 28743 16512, 6123, 7126, 37234 please |
| 15:29.21 | Mellow_ | unforunately they providing a quite good line on cheap price |
| 15:29.29 | Mellow_ | there are only 2 problems |
| 15:29.32 | Grum | or just mail them a random list of ports every day ;D |
| 15:29.36 | Mellow_ | 1, port forward |
| 15:29.38 | Mellow_ | 2, static dc |
| 15:29.44 | Grum | static dc ? :) |
| 15:29.47 | Mellow_ | i got dc everyday about 20:20 |
| 15:29.52 | Matrix110 | Thats nice:P |
| 15:29.52 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 15:29.52 | Grum | LOL |
| 15:29.56 | Grum | lease expired ? :P |
| 15:30.02 | Mellow_ | dunno |
| 15:30.05 | Mellow_ | its rolling |
| 15:30.06 | Grum | i'd bet on that ;D |
| 15:30.09 | Mellow_ | 2 months ago it was 04:20 |
| 15:30.13 | Grum | by how much? |
| 15:30.17 | Grum | 1-2 mins a day ? |
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| 15:30.23 | Mellow_ | nope |
| 15:30.25 | Mellow_ | no outage |
| 15:30.27 | Mellow_ | just diconnect |
| 15:30.38 | Mellow_ | but when you are in a raid, you are the main healer heheheehe |
| 15:30.39 | Grum | what did they tell you? :P |
| 15:30.48 | Mellow_ | actually its a funny story |
| 15:30.49 | sylvanaar | what could possibly be the point of that |
| 15:31.01 | Grum | sylvanaar: it's probably lease-time connected |
| 15:31.09 | Mellow_ | i havent noticed them, but they realised thats a problem |
| 15:31.14 | Mellow_ | they asked the line provider to check it |
| 15:31.22 | sylvanaar | you can get a new ip without disconnect |
| 15:31.23 | Grum | but it makes no sense as they control the routers - they can just make it infinite and block mac adresses O.o |
| 15:31.29 | Mellow_ | and the guy asked me, okay how would tomorrow 10 am suit for you? |
| 15:31.32 | Mellow_ | hm, what? |
| 15:31.39 | Mellow_ | i would like to check your line? |
| 15:31.42 | Grum | sylvanaar: not true |
| 15:31.44 | Mellow_ | why? |
| 15:31.53 | Mellow_ | because its broken |
| 15:31.55 | Mellow_ | is it? |
| 15:32.03 | sylvanaar | what do you mean not true lol |
| 15:32.09 | Mellow_ | yes your isp told you got dc at the same time every day |
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| 15:32.22 | Grum | you will get a disconnect from anything you have an open connection with |
| 15:32.25 | sylvanaar | existing tcp connections with close |
| 15:32.25 | Mellow_ | they checked my line because i got dc at the same time every day |
| 15:32.43 | Matrix110 | Its a simple 24h DC pretty much every ISP here has it Oo |
| 15:32.43 | Grum | half-working is not working ;) |
| 15:32.50 | sylvanaar | but you wont disconnect from the network |
| 15:32.53 | Mellow_ | they were absolutely sure this is because the line is crap |
| 15:33.01 | Grum | right |
| 15:33.10 | Matrix110 | And as your cant access your Router they have to adjust it |
| 15:33.11 | Grum | and the line has a 24hr biorithm of it's own .. sigh |
| 15:33.23 | Matrix110 | Grum its because he cant access the router |
| 15:33.26 | Matrix110 | and tell the Router |
| 15:33.31 | Matrix110 | do it at 3:00 |
| 15:33.37 | FryGuy | just dhcp release/renew the router before you start playing wow |
| 15:33.37 | Mellow_ | this is adsl2, and isp confirmed there is no 24h resriction... |
| 15:33.38 | Grum | lol i'd so not accept this crap |
| 15:33.39 | FryGuy | .. oh wait |
| 15:33.48 | Grum | if i even disconnect once per 6 months i'm pissed :) |
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| 15:33.51 | Mellow_ | they wanted tocheck the line bceause its not usual |
| 15:34.08 | Grum | let alone .. once per day .. |
| 15:34.18 | syeren | Hmm, does anyone have any experience using candy bars here, I want to finish off my addon but I'm a little scared to do so :/ |
| 15:34.24 | Mellow_ | i could survive, but 20:20 not the best time |
| 15:34.27 | Mellow_ | 04:20 who cares? |
| 15:34.43 | Grum | syeren: what's your question? :) |
| 15:35.08 | syeren | Well I've wrote my Addon, have all the 'core' code working and stuff. |
| 15:35.13 | Grum | it happens, i'd care Mellow_ |
| 15:35.17 | syeren | It's just I'm not entirely sure how to edit the Candybar display. |
| 15:35.20 | FryGuy | candybars is really easy to use |
| 15:35.22 | Grum | you pay for uptime, you dont pay for stupid disconnects |
| 15:35.23 | syeren | I know what I have to do, jsut not sure how to do it. |
| 15:35.40 | Grum | well what do you have to do then? :) |
| 15:35.42 | syeren | But I have a basic idea, but not sure if it's right. |
| 15:35.44 | sylvanaar | isnt there a candybar tester |
| 15:35.49 | Mellow_ | but the problem, thats not my thought, the line is broken |
| 15:35.53 | Grum | i can eat candybars ;D |
| 15:35.57 | Mellow_ | so isp knows that is a problem |
| 15:36.11 | Grum | Mellow_: i'd put my ass on the line for lease expires |
| 15:36.23 | Grum | that is the only logical solution |
| 15:36.32 | syeren | Grum, PM Please for a second so you can verify something for me if you have the time. |
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| 15:36.44 | Grum | syeren: find a pastebot and share it with the whole channel? |
| 15:36.55 | Mellow_ | so i should disconnect at 20:18?:D |
| 15:37.40 | Grum | depends on your session time but i'd monitor it so you can predict it and extrapolate the session time and whack them with the facts |
| 15:38.11 | Mellow_ | if that a 24h dc, i would get up 4am in the morning and unplug the router to dial again |
| 15:39.08 | Grum | hehe |
| 15:39.48 | Pkekyo | ok, maths question: how is s^2 pronounced in english? |
| 15:39.59 | Mellow_ | i would replace the router with linksys rotuer, but linksys doesnt have an adsl2 router which could have a opensource firmware replacement? |
| 15:40.17 | Grum | s to the power of 2 ? |
| 15:40.33 | Pkekyo | o'rly? |
| 15:40.41 | Grum | y'rly |
| 15:40.44 | Pkekyo | sounds funky |
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| 15:40.50 | Grum | dunno not native english here :) |
| 15:40.55 | Pkekyo | same |
| 15:41.07 | yacoob | Pkekyo, "s squared" as well |
| 15:41.07 | Grum | well '^' is 'to the power of' |
| 15:41.16 | Mellow_ | i could ask a native english |
| 15:41.19 | Grum | and what is sqrt(2) then? ;) |
| 15:41.25 | yacoob | square root of 2 |
| 15:41.26 | Grum | 'square root of 2' ? :) |
| 15:41.27 | abyssichate | square root of 2? |
| 15:41.32 | Grum | bah that is lame |
| 15:41.36 | Pkekyo | Grum: squirted at two people? O.o |
| 15:41.48 | Grum | f(li|a)rted |
| 15:42.05 | Pkekyo | "by the s to the power of 2 given to me by god and the state of texas, I swear thou shalt learn math" |
| 15:42.24 | Pkekyo | k. |
| 15:42.26 | Esteth | Mellow_ : take a loot at the DD_WRT forums, they might have a list of compatible routers :) |
| 15:42.32 | Grum | stop swearing Pkekyo ... |
| 15:42.44 | Pkekyo | Grum: I did? when? |
| 15:42.52 | Grum | god .. texas ... |
| 15:42.56 | Mellow_ | Esteth: i know, but i dont know is there an adsl2 capable linksys router |
| 15:43.09 | Pkekyo | believe me, if I start swearing, both you and me will know for sure :> |
| 15:43.27 | Grum | you will put up a sign? :P |
| 15:43.30 | mjc | http://home.325i.org/~mjc/iphonedisk.png |
| 15:43.32 | Pkekyo | no |
| 15:43.37 | Esteth | ahh, i'm not sure what adsl2 is, so i can't help there. I live in a cable area, so i have that :) |
| 15:43.40 | Grum | you will be talking gibberish? |
| 15:43.45 | Pkekyo | no |
| 15:43.59 | Grum | so how do i know!~ |
| 15:44.37 | Mellow_ | in hungary most the isp are crap |
| 15:44.39 | Mellow_ | s |
| 15:45.37 | Matrix110 | atleast you got ADSL2+ |
| 15:45.56 | Matrix110 | iam sitting here with shitty 2000/192 and 10km away they got 50.000/5.000 -.- |
| 15:46.12 | Grum | ADSL2+ would be 24/3 btw max ;) |
| 15:46.26 | FryGuy | megabit? |
| 15:46.31 | Grum | yup |
| 15:46.36 | Matrix110 | 50/5=VDSL :P |
| 15:46.43 | Grum | also yup :) |
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| 15:47.23 | sb | Matrix110: my adsl2+ doesnt sync with 16000 :/ well... it does at 95% - but sometimes sync loss every 5 minues (for 3-4h) |
| 15:47.50 | Matrix110 | i would get pissed then |
| 15:48.26 | Grum | mine just hangs @ 15000 atm |
| 15:48.34 | Mellow_ | Matrix110: im living in the capital city and my bw is 3/512 |
| 15:48.35 | Grum | stable however after i asked to cap it at that .. |
| 15:48.42 | Matrix110 | I want my damn Provider to gimme ADSL2+ with highest possible bandwith for my line but they refuse to-.- |
| 15:48.46 | Mellow_ | Matrix110: im living in the capital city and my bw is 3mbit/512kbit |
| 15:48.54 | FryGuy | dc? |
| 15:49.02 | Grum | disconnect |
| 15:49.12 | FryGuy | district of columbia? |
| 15:49.17 | Grum | :P |
| 15:49.26 | Matrix110 | Is that the max possible Mellow_ or just in your region of the city the max? |
| 15:49.34 | Mellow_ | not the ma |
| 15:49.35 | Mellow_ | x |
| 15:49.38 | Mellow_ | the max is 20? |
| 15:49.58 | Mellow_ | of coruse the limit is higher what you get |
| 15:50.05 | Esteth | hmm. Can i dump all my stupid little accessor / setter functions into a seperate lua file, or do they need to be in the same file as the options table that refrences them? |
| 15:50.19 | Mellow_ | if you order 20 and you are VERY close to the provider box, you will get 14-15 |
| 15:50.26 | sb | Matrix110: yup - have to downgrade to 6000 now :/ |
| 15:50.38 | Matrix110 | WEll 6000 is fine compared to 2000-.- |
| 15:51.06 | Mellow_ | it depends, how much do you pay for it? |
| 15:51.20 | Matrix110 | I could get like 4-6mbit with ADSL2+ but the provider refuses to switch me from ADSL1 to ADSL2+ even if i would pay the full price for ADSL2+.... |
| 15:51.26 | Grum | Mellow_: 20 is about till ~1500mrs orso .. after that it drops steeply depending on the line quality |
| 15:52.10 | Mellow_ | 1500mrs? |
| 15:52.22 | Matrix110 | 1,5km |
| 15:52.24 | Matrix110 | 1500meters |
| 15:53.12 | Mellow_ | k |
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| 16:01.26 | Tinyboom | <3 being 314mtrs from the box:) one of the few good things about norway:p |
| 16:02.30 | sb | i am the box :/ |
| 16:05.36 | Matrix110 | my box is approx. 5000meters away |
| 16:05.40 | Matrix110 | kind of SUCKS |
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| 16:06.30 | sylvanaar | man, that sucks, i found something way better than the tooltip for tocs |
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| 16:07.31 | sylvanaar | vista has a file viewer in the explorer |
| 16:07.42 | sylvanaar | you dont even have to open the fil |
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| 16:11.43 | syeren | Could someone offer me some help, I'm rather confused :( |
| 16:11.43 | syeren | http://pastey.net/70945 http://pastey.net/70946 |
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| 16:16.16 | Strigoi|LR | How does exactly Violation spying module works? do you need to be in some sort of instance |
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| 16:16.23 | Strigoi|LR | to have sync with SWS\DM users |
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| 16:16.39 | V^ | Anyone recommend me a mod that I can use to paste the remaining cooldowns on my trade skills like, Transmutes? |
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| 16:16.55 | V^ | The cooldown remaining on my xxxx is 21 hours 12 minutes 8 seconds |
| 16:16.57 | V^ | ?? |
| 16:18.45 | Mellow_ | well i used classtimer to track mybuffs, and this is able to paste it, but dunno is it working for trade skills... |
| 16:20.00 | V^ | :( |
| 16:21.07 | Mellow_ | what about omnicc? |
| 16:21.18 | Mellow_ | it could track cooldowns, dunno is there a report in |
| 16:22.39 | V^ | no that just adds cooldowns to bars |
| 16:23.03 | Mellow_ | then im sorry |
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| 16:23.08 | V^ | :P |
| 16:24.26 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r44007 10beql/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:24.26 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 16:24.26 | CIA-22 | - Updated ruRU locale |
| 16:24.26 | CIA-22 | - Added helper function to translate Quest Log texts |
| 16:24.26 | CIA-22 | - Added huHU locale as an example |
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| 16:25.20 | Mellow_ | huHU^^ |
| 16:25.39 | pastamancer | I'd imagine they're using the enGB client |
| 16:26.20 | Mellow_ | i never saw any addon which had huHu locale |
| 16:27.36 | V^ | NOW YOU DID =D |
| 16:27.56 | Mellow_ | true |
| 16:28.32 | Neebler | hungary! |
| 16:28.45 | Mellow_ | ^^ |
| 16:29.05 | mikma | well add anUS too |
| 16:29.35 | art3mis | spiro agnew hungry! |
| 16:29.47 | Mellow_ | i guess he is hungarian this is the reason for it |
| 16:29.50 | Mellow_ | or she |
| 16:31.07 | art3mis | gasp cairenn isnt afk! |
| 16:31.16 | art3mis | quick duck and cover! |
| 16:31.20 | Bayi | i saw already a Klingon (lol!) locale for some addons :D |
| 16:31.21 | Cairenn | eep! hide! |
| 16:31.26 | mikma | the great eye is always watching |
| 16:31.35 | art3mis | (duck and cover being the official protection against cataclysmic events btw) |
| 16:31.36 | Bayi | so a Hungarian locale (which runs on EnGB client) isnt so extreme than :) |
| 16:31.38 | Mellow_ | klingon?:DD |
| 16:31.41 | Bayi | yepp |
| 16:31.43 | Strigoi|LR | [Ammo] excuseme, but could you explain 1 thing with violation, tried most recent revision and spying seems to not work for me, last revision with working sync with SWS is 43196 it seems |
| 16:31.48 | Mellow_ | what was that addon?:D |
| 16:31.52 | Bayi | even AceLocale documentation mention its |
| 16:31.58 | Mellow_ | lol |
| 16:31.59 | Bayi | i cant remember... |
| 16:32.08 | art3mis | hey cairn where are ya btw? |
| 16:32.19 | art3mis | just noticedthe telus in yer host the other day |
| 16:32.22 | Mellow_ | is the huhu locale ebtter than enUS? and can handle the accent? |
| 16:32.31 | Cairenn | canada |
| 16:32.38 | art3mis | well yes duh |
| 16:32.42 | Mellow_ | my wowclient couldnt handle o" |
| 16:32.43 | art3mis | ab or bc? |
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| 16:32.44 | Cairenn | Ontario |
| 16:32.46 | Bayi | if u want the addon in hungarian language then yes |
| 16:32.47 | art3mis | oh |
| 16:32.53 | art3mis | when did telus get out there? |
| 16:33.01 | Bayi | its working for me |
| 16:33.09 | Bayi | with all "special" letters |
| 16:33.12 | art3mis | or is it pockets like rogers/shaw used to be |
| 16:33.17 | Mellow_ | actually im from hungary, shouldnt be a problem |
| 16:33.18 | Pkekyo | does the frostwolf tabard still require exalted rep |
| 16:33.20 | Bayi | u need to include the ASCII code for them in the file |
| 16:33.24 | Pkekyo | ? |
| 16:33.24 | Cairenn | I've no idea why telus would be showing up in my addy, I'm using rogers |
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| 16:34.07 | art3mis | i swear it was you |
| 16:34.13 | art3mis | shrug oh well |
| 16:34.26 | art3mis | you should move |
| 16:34.26 | cncfanatics | hello everyone ! :) |
| 16:34.28 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:34.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:34.33 | art3mis | ontario is bad for the soul |
| 16:34.46 | art3mis | and all future children are gonna be flipper babies! |
| 16:34.53 | art3mis | its scientific fact! |
| 16:34.58 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 16:35.26 | art3mis | you in TO proper? |
| 16:36.01 | Cairenn | nope, Ottawa |
| 16:37.30 | Cairenn | I'm gathering you're a Canuck as well |
| 16:37.42 | art3mis | happen to work at a company programming storage based software? |
| 16:37.45 | art3mis | yeah vancouver |
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| 16:37.57 | art3mis | well in nyc now |
| 16:38.11 | art3mis | but born and bred in the better part of the continent |
| 16:38.24 | Cairenn | lol, small world - hubby is down there too, been there for 5 years now |
| 16:38.40 | Cairenn | <== Bluenoser |
| 16:38.49 | art3mis | gasp! |
| 16:38.54 | Cairenn | NS will always be home, wherever I'm actually living |
| 16:39.04 | art3mis | hehe same with van and me |
| 16:39.20 | art3mis | how come yer up there if hes been here for 5 years? |
| 16:39.36 | Cairenn | daughter |
| 16:40.02 | art3mis | shes cemented to the garage floor and you can't move her? |
| 16:40.11 | Kaelten|Work | I think its because she's a glutton for punishment personally. |
| 16:40.16 | Kaelten|Work | er I mean extremely dedicated |
| 16:40.19 | Cairenn | she got accepted into our equivalent of Juilard |
| 16:40.24 | art3mis | ahhh |
| 16:40.31 | art3mis | how old? |
| 16:40.56 | art3mis | laugh kael |
| 16:40.58 | Cairenn | done HS now, graduated last June, went back for another 1/2 year to pick up some more credits, going to U in the fall |
| 16:41.16 | art3mis | you should send her to nyu ;P shell learn all sorts of things |
| 16:41.27 | art3mis | like dressing as though shes from the 80s and never bought new clothes |
| 16:41.27 | Cairenn | Kaelten, baby, you know I like pain |
| 16:41.41 | art3mis | protesting the opression of tibetians |
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| 16:41.51 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:41.52 | art3mis | clubbing |
| 16:42.01 | art3mis | finding out that "no he wont actually leave his wife" |
| 16:42.09 | art3mis | you know all the good things about nyu ;) |
| 16:42.31 | art3mis | and as a side note pain never hurt anyone |
| 16:42.53 | art3mis | not if you buy the right rope anyways |
| 16:43.11 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 16:43.15 | cncfanatics | whats his convo about ? :o |
| 16:43.17 | cncfanatics | just got here :p |
| 16:43.39 | Cairenn | art3mis: silk ties work well |
| 16:43.41 | NightHawkAtWork | pain any nyc |
| 16:43.45 | Chompers | space rockets |
| 16:43.47 | NightHawkAtWork | er, pain *and* nyc |
| 16:43.52 | art3mis | cairenn and her odd perchance for not living with her husband whos in newyork, because her incredibly smart child is cemented to the garage floor ;P |
| 16:43.58 | NightHawkAtWork | which typically go hand in hand anyway |
| 16:44.12 | art3mis | cair: amateur ;P |
| 16:44.26 | art3mis | i had pain before i got here actually |
| 16:44.36 | art3mis | but thats awhole nother story |
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| 16:45.00 | Cairenn | I'd have considered going down now, except she's got offered partial scholarship to the U here in town, so she's accepted there and going to stay at home and save herself some on student loans |
| 16:45.17 | art3mis | you ever come down to visit? |
| 16:45.29 | Cairenn | actually, every one of the U's she applied to accepted and offered partials, but she wants to stay here to save herself some cash |
| 16:45.40 | art3mis | silly girl |
| 16:45.41 | Cairenn | yeah, I do - I'll actually be in town the week after BlizzCon |
| 16:45.48 | art3mis | ooo |
| 16:46.04 | art3mis | bring me smokes, zoodles and a crispy cruch please! |
| 16:46.09 | NightHawkAtWork | oh man, I love cat and girl. http://www.catandgirl.com/index.php "If they can survive the death of cassette culture, they can survive anything." |
| 16:46.19 | Cairenn | flying from LA to NYC on the Monday after BlizzCon, spend the week with hubby then fly home on Friday |
| 16:46.42 | Cairenn | lol, and a real coke and a coffee crisp too |
| 16:46.50 | art3mis | yes and yes |
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| 16:47.29 | Cairenn | and you wonder why I won't move down? |
| 16:47.53 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:48.01 | art3mis | oh did you see timmy's is expanding |
| 16:48.12 | art3mis | soon on so very soon *rubs belly* |
| 16:48.18 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:49.01 | art3mis | heh the first couple of weeks i went around trying to find zoodles |
| 16:49.09 | art3mis | THOSE are the best stares ive ever recieved |
| 16:49.26 | Cairenn | that'll make hubby happy - first thing he does when he gets off the plane is hit up the nearest Tim's |
| 16:49.43 | Cairenn | second thing he does is hits up me ;) |
| 16:50.04 | Cairenn | because by the time he has finished his Tim's, we're home |
| 16:50.27 | art3mis | haha yeah |
| 16:51.31 | abyssichate | ckknight_: ping! |
| 16:53.44 | art3mis | wow linux mint is the first distro whos live cd supports embedded media and the install does as welll |
| 16:54.07 | cncfanatics | embedded media being ? :p |
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| 16:54.33 | art3mis | like movies in web pages |
| 16:54.38 | art3mis | youtube etc |
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| 16:57.33 | cncfanatics | ~ seen Fisker- |
| 16:57.41 | purl | fisker- is currently on #wowace (22h 36m 33s) #wowwiki (22h 36m 33s). Has said a total of 345 messages. Is idling for 22m 20s, last said: 'Site seems fine to me'. |
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| 16:59.47 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, ping |
| 16:59.54 | ckknight | abyssichate: pong |
| 17:00.03 | Pucmel | | o |
| 17:00.05 | syeren | ckknight, can you help me now :(? |
| 17:00.10 | syeren | Almost finished my addon, sort of. |
| 17:00.10 | ckknight | no |
| 17:00.13 | ckknight | I gotta go soon |
| 17:00.14 | syeren | Oki. |
| 17:00.27 | art3mis | ckk doesnt help people |
| 17:00.32 | syeren | He does :p |
| 17:00.37 | art3mis | you need to post stuff so he can "correct" you ;) |
| 17:00.51 | syeren | [2007/07/17 17:50:34-1481-x1]: Combat Timer (standby): AceConsole: args.bar.args.textcolor: "function() return self.db.profile.textcolor" is not a proper function: |
| 17:00.52 | syeren | :( |
| 17:02.23 | syeren | I wish someone who used CandyBars in there addon was here. |
| 17:03.30 | pastamancer | syeren, it looks like you're missing an end |
| 17:03.54 | syeren | self:SetCandyBarTextSize(Combat_Timer, self.db.profile.textsize) |
| 17:04.04 | syeren | get = "function() return self.db.profile.textcolor end", |
| 17:04.04 | syeren | set = "function(f) return self.db.profile.textcolor = f end", |
| 17:04.16 | pastamancer | oh, get rid of the "" |
| 17:04.26 | syeren | On both ends? |
| 17:04.31 | pastamancer | yes |
| 17:04.34 | syeren | Awesome, thanks. |
| 17:04.58 | syeren | Is there a reason pastamancer? |
| 17:05.06 | pastamancer | because a string isn't a function |
| 17:05.10 | syeren | I don't code LUA, I'm just able to put stuff together due to libs :p |
| 17:05.14 | syeren | So I don't know the rules or anything :p |
| 17:05.25 | cncfanatics | syeren, functions must not be enclosed with quotes |
| 17:05.31 | cncfanatics | or they're interpretted as plaintext |
| 17:05.42 | cncfanatics | which can be usefull, but its not what u want in this case |
| 17:06.23 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44008 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Detail.lua): Recount - Addresses a few issues with scrolling in death log windows |
| 17:06.31 | syeren | Okay, thanks :) |
| 17:06.53 | syeren | Once I work out this, all I need to do is the Fubar part which ckknight said he would help me with, and then work out how to create a test bar, and it's finished :d |
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| 17:07.35 | trh | hididho |
| 17:08.32 | syeren | [2007/07/17 18:01:10-1482-x1]: CombatTimer\Core.lua:48: 'end' expected near '=' |
| 17:08.39 | syeren | set = function(f) return self.db.profile.texture = f end, |
| 17:08.39 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44009 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: Optimization to SpecialEvents-Aura : provide early exit for AuraScan. This has a very significant effect on performance on this critical function. |
| 17:08.41 | syeren | Hmmm. |
| 17:08.43 | pastamancer | there's plenty of examples on how to work with fubar |
| 17:08.48 | mitch1 | ckk: is there an easy way to make auras centered w/ regards to the health bar? for the raid frames I only have the healthbar displayed, and the buffs/debuffs are put on the left and right of it, but they're also offset a bit upwards |
| 17:08.53 | cncfanatics | syeren, u forgot a ; |
| 17:09.06 | syeren | mitch1, don't bother ckknight about Auras, seriously :P |
| 17:09.26 | syeren | Basically he had the perfect aura code, then someone redid the Auras module and hehe. |
| 17:09.28 | mitch1 | well, it's more of a layout question really |
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| 17:09.44 | syeren | Yes, the whole layout of the thing went kaboom after whomever did it :p |
| 17:10.05 | mitch1 | hohum |
| 17:10.21 | syeren | cncfanatics, after each function, the "end" should always end with a ";" |
| 17:10.40 | syeren | Or just the second instance in this case? |
| 17:11.03 | syeren | Because it didn't bug me about line 47, which ends in the exact same way :p |
| 17:11.27 | pastamancer | syeren: just pastey the whole file on ace.pastey.net |
| 17:11.33 | mitch1 | ; is not necessary in lua most of the time, and some of the folks here will bitch you no end if you use them ;) |
| 17:11.45 | cncfanatics | syeren, no, ur interpretting me wrong |
| 17:12.02 | cncfanatics | set = function(f) return self.db.profile.texture = f; end |
| 17:12.09 | cncfanatics | that should be ur function |
| 17:12.14 | cncfanatics | as you have two instructions on the same line |
| 17:12.19 | cncfanatics | (at least I think) |
| 17:12.24 | syeren | http://pastey.net/70948 |
| 17:12.29 | cncfanatics | (cant actualy remember if ends are interpretted as such or not) |
| 17:12.29 | syeren | Have fun laughing at me :( |
| 17:12.32 | mitch1 | no need for the ; there |
| 17:12.40 | cncfanatics | oh, seems they're not |
| 17:12.44 | cncfanatics | either way, I got to reboot my X server |
| 17:12.45 | cncfanatics | brb |
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| 17:13.50 | syeren | pastamancer, as you can probably see, the majority of my code is built from the guides lying around, so if there are ever any extra things I have to do which are just suggested without example. |
| 17:14.04 | syeren | I just try and incorporate which I picked up earlier, which isn't working in this case :p |
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| 17:14.53 | syeren | Fortunately there was a good anchor guide on the forums. |
| 17:16.31 | Royal | anyone know what event is is when Archimonde uses fear? |
| 17:16.45 | syeren | RUN_INTO_HELLFIRE_LOL? |
| 17:16.45 | vhaarr | Tuller: bagnon is broken! |
| 17:16.49 | Royal | xD |
| 17:17.00 | vhaarr | Tuller: but I guess you already knew that |
| 17:17.07 | vhaarr | Tuller: ETA on fix? |
| 17:17.09 | cncfanatics | Royal, its GAIN_SOUL_CHARGE |
| 17:17.14 | cncfanatics | and then WIPE_RAID |
| 17:17.33 | durcyn | Archimonde rolls 72. You die. |
| 17:17.39 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 17:17.41 | syeren | cncfanatics, so I am putting the ; after the "end" and not the "f" ? |
| 17:17.42 | Royal | not cool ;( |
| 17:17.43 | cncfanatics | may the RNG be with you |
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| 17:17.56 | cncfanatics | syeren, nvm what I said about the ;, its not relevant, I was wrong |
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| 17:18.01 | durcyn | it's just an enemy spellcast event, royal |
| 17:18.01 | syeren | I put my code on pastey :p |
| 17:18.09 | syeren | http://pastey.net/70948 |
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| 17:18.12 | vhaarr | Tuller: and I have a feature request as well, let me know when you want to hear it |
| 17:18.20 | cncfanatics | someone, how can I change the default width of a waterfall ? |
| 17:18.29 | cncfanatics | (of the window itself that is) |
| 17:18.50 | Tuller | vhaarr: bagnon is broken in what way? |
| 17:19.08 | syeren | cncfanatics, it's telling me it needs an "end" but there is a damn "end" on that line :( |
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| 17:19.11 | syeren | So confusing :/ |
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| 17:20.12 | vhaarr | Tuller: [2007/07/17 18:59:24-4916-x1]: Bagnon\core\item.lua:230: attempt to call method 'ShowingBorders' (a nil value) |
| 17:20.16 | vhaarr | Tuller: and another error as well |
| 17:20.34 | Tuller | hrm, did you update off of the svn? |
| 17:20.35 | art3mis | What's yellow and equivilant to the Axoim of Choice? |
| 17:20.36 | pastamancer | syeren: remove the 'return' from the set functions |
| 17:20.38 | vhaarr | Tuller: yes |
| 17:20.42 | art3mis | Zorn's Lemon |
| 17:20.42 | Tuller | that's why :) |
| 17:20.49 | vhaarr | well obviously |
| 17:20.51 | vhaarr | so |
| 17:20.53 | vhaarr | ETA on fix? :P |
| 17:21.08 | dylanm | vhaarr: The Bagnon svn is a bit crazy right now. I reverted :p |
| 17:21.10 | durcyn | "don't use svn" coming in t-minus.. |
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| 17:21.43 | Tuller | yeah the bagnon svn right now is crazy because of combuctor |
| 17:22.13 | dylanm | Also known as "the future". |
| 17:22.28 | Tuller | the future? |
| 17:22.45 | vhaarr | Tuller: so should I revert, or what? |
| 17:22.46 | dylanm | Hyperbole. |
| 17:22.58 | Tuller | well, I just loaded bagnon, and I haven't had an error |
| 17:24.02 | dylanm | Tuller: Just making light of the fact that everyone in #dongle is kinda salivating over it. |
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| 17:24.42 | Tuller | well, I haven't been on irc to know that :P |
| 17:24.48 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:24.59 | Fisker- | Blizzard went back on their decision to ban a player for "Naga stole my water" |
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| 17:25.16 | Fisker- | That was atleast more inappropiate than "SS" |
| 17:25.29 | Thrae | dylanm: Salivating over what? Bagnon? I use an old version of Bagnon I think... |
| 17:25.45 | dylanm | Thrae: The Combuctor thing. |
| 17:25.54 | Thrae | I don't know what that is. |
| 17:26.13 | poull | If i want to put a library i have started working up on svn but it isn't ready for use yet, where should i put it? svn.wowace.com/wowace/ |
| 17:26.14 | syeren | pastamancer, that fixed that problem thanks, now I'm presented with a new one :D |
| 17:26.16 | Thrae | Wait, lemme check. |
| 17:26.41 | Thrae | ,--8<- |
| 17:26.41 | Thrae | |Lastlog: |
| 17:26.41 | Thrae | |12:15 < dylanm:#dongle> Combuctor |
| 17:26.41 | Thrae | |13:25 [Wowfreenode] < Tuller:#wowace> yeah the bagnon svn right now is crazy because of combuctor |
| 17:26.44 | Thrae | |13:29 [Wowfreenode] < dylanm:#wowace> Thrae: The Combuctor thing. |
| 17:26.47 | Thrae | `-->8- |
| 17:26.52 | Thrae | Yeah, we're talking about it everyday :D |
| 17:27.08 | vhaarr | Tuller: wtf, it errors like nuts here |
| 17:27.08 | dylanm | Thrae: http://tullamods.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Combuctor |
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| 17:27.13 | vhaarr | Tuller: do I need this Combuctor thing? |
| 17:27.23 | Tuller | vhaarr: no |
| 17:27.38 | dylanm | Thrae: We clearly are >:o |
| 17:27.48 | Uhuru | hi |
| 17:28.09 | Uhuru | is the closetgnome_switcher dev here ? |
| 17:28.33 | Thrae | dylanm: I just searched through the logs and found little about it...so you're just trying to start something :D |
| 17:28.41 | vhaarr | Uhuru: well |
| 17:28.47 | dylanm | Thrae: Did you search #dongle? |
| 17:28.49 | vhaarr | Uhuru: I didn't make it initially, but I have done lots of fixing on it |
| 17:29.05 | syeren | [2007/07/17 18:19:22-1486-x1]: CombatTimer-0.1\Core.lua:153: CandyBar-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `SetCandyBarTexture' (string expected, got nil) |
| 17:29.11 | syeren | What does the string part mean? |
| 17:29.18 | syeren | Or rather, what is a "string" :P? |
| 17:29.24 | vhaarr | "string" |
| 17:30.40 | Cryect | umm it expected a string for a var |
| 17:30.42 | dylanm | Thrae: By "everyone" I probably mean "mikma". |
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| 17:31.55 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44010 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Fixes a bug with death log plus adds new way to track who kills a mob if there is no slain message |
| 17:32.02 | mikma | wa? |
| 17:32.25 | dylanm | mikma: Go back to watching House shooo. |
| 17:32.46 | Tuller | vhaarr: should be fixed |
| 17:32.56 | Thrae | dylanm: $du -h "#dongle.log" |==| 1.2M #dongle.log $ grep [cC]ombuctor "#dongle.log" |==| 12:15 < dylanm:#dongle> Combuctor |
| 17:33.03 | mikma | dylanm: can't |
| 17:33.07 | mikma | final approach is on |
| 17:33.08 | vhaarr | Tuller: nice |
| 17:33.38 | Thrae | dylanm: Log hasn't been rotated since June 25th...so unless someone mispelt it, NO ONE was talking about it |
| 17:34.09 | Thrae | dylanm: You're an instigator. Admit it. |
| 17:34.11 | dylanm | Thrae: I don't think we really referred to it by name... |
| 17:34.19 | dylanm | Thrae: Ask mikma for realz. |
| 17:34.40 | dylanm | Thrae: Wait a second -- none of this matters. |
| 17:34.47 | vhaarr | Tuller: yeah works now |
| 17:34.49 | dylanm | :p |
| 17:35.21 | Tuller | but it matters for my ego! :P |
| 17:35.53 | Thrae | Admit it dylanm, you're an instigator. |
| 17:36.17 | NightHawkAtWork | admit nothing! damn the man! *cheers* |
| 17:36.35 | Thrae | Tuller talks about bagnon, but he doesn't talk about combustor -- how can we "salivate" over something we don't even know what it is?! |
| 17:37.05 | Thrae | s/combus/combuc/perldonottouch |
| 17:37.16 | poull | What is the difference between svn and dev repository? |
| 17:37.34 | dylanm | Thrae: Send me the bloody log. This is war. |
| 17:37.35 | Thrae | poull: svn just allows you to checkout, dev allows you to import files to the svn |
| 17:37.58 | Thrae | dylanm: He doesn't say the name "combuctor" |
| 17:37.59 | poull | Ok, thank you :) |
| 17:39.19 | dylanm | Thrae: Because it was being referred to as the "Ludwig bags thing" by everyone. What can your command-line utilities tell you about a feeling? An idea? A premonition? |
| 17:40.21 | NightHawkAtWork | my command line utilities predict the future and tell me what to feel! |
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| 17:41.05 | Thrae | dylanm: who; last; pause; grep; touch; unzip; mount /dev/girl -t wet; fsck; fsck; fsck; fsck; yes; yes; yes; umount /dev/girl; zip; rm -rf wet.spot; sleep; finger: Permission denied |
| 17:41.24 | dylanm | Oh my. |
| 17:41.54 | Thrae | Those are all valid commands on MY command line interface. You homo. |
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| 17:42.52 | Thrae | What, your terminal doesn't support fsck'ing? Too bad! |
| 17:44.48 | trh | i bet he didn't got /dev/girl |
| 17:45.16 | dylanm | Oh it does that all night long. It gets more than cron jobs all night if you knawimean. |
| 17:45.23 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.07 | trh | i always thought it was readwise symbolic link to /dev/random and writewise to /dev/null |
| 17:47.21 | trh | (i.e. if you 'listen' to it, it never stops talking alot of random stuff and ignores what you "say") |
| 17:49.31 | Thrae | The only problem with Linux...you're always told to "man man", but when you try to "man woman", it can never seem to find one... |
| 17:49.56 | trh | proves that linux is gay... *ducks & hides very good* ;) |
| 17:50.32 | Josh_Borke | ~lart trh |
| 17:50.33 | purl | plops trh into a giant vat of herring |
| 17:50.33 | charon | RMS comes to the rescue: emacs has a WoMan module though |
| 17:50.53 | trh | uh.. red herring.. yummy ;) |
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| 17:53.03 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 17:53.12 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 5h 2m ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 17:53.38 | trh | pretty hot outside... like 86°F / 30°C |
| 17:53.41 | cncfanatics | ~ shoot Nargiddley |
| 17:53.41 | purl | ACTION shoots Nargiddley in the head with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 17:54.09 | *** join/#wowace Coruss (n=Coruss@204.50.113.44) |
| 17:54.11 | kenlyric | I got about 7 degrees on that trh. (F) |
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| 17:54.37 | kenlyric | wait, no, it's only 74f here right now... the high is supposed to be 92... |
| 17:54.48 | cncfanatics | someone, how am I Suposed to set the width of the waterfall window ? |
| 17:54.49 | cncfanatics | its too small |
| 17:54.53 | kenlyric | considering it's 2pm already, I don't see it getting that hot. |
| 17:55.16 | trh | kenlyric: it's 7pm here ;) |
| 17:55.26 | trh | kenlyric: was hotter at noon |
| 17:55.29 | cryogen | are there any good ace addons that help warlocks like necrosis? |
| 17:55.35 | cncfanatics | cryogen, yes |
| 17:55.36 | cryogen | especially one that gets rid of excess shards |
| 17:55.38 | cncfanatics | let me remember the name |
| 17:55.40 | cncfanatics | ehm, henge |
| 17:55.50 | cncfanatics | necrosis like addon for all classes |
| 17:55.59 | cryogen | the new improved drain soul is so imba |
| 17:56.02 | kenlyric | shard watch or something/ |
| 17:56.02 | cryogen | have to use it on every mob :p |
| 17:56.03 | trh | kenlyric: err.. 8pm.. damn minutes ;) |
| 17:56.04 | charon | antiarc: ping |
| 17:56.09 | Antiarc | pong |
| 17:56.10 | kenlyric | don't remember if it's ace or not. |
| 17:56.14 | syeren | self:RegisterCandyBar("Combat_Timer", 6.5, "- Combat", "red", "green", "yellow", "blue") |
| 17:56.14 | syeren | self:RegisterCandyBarWithGroup("Combat_Timer", "CombatTimer") |
| 17:56.14 | syeren | if self.db.profile.barscale then self:SetCandyBarScale(Combat_Timer, self.db.profile.barscale) end |
| 17:56.14 | syeren | if self.db.profile.barwidth then self:SetCandyBarWidth(Combat_Timerid, self.db.profile.barwidth) end |
| 17:56.15 | syeren | if self.db.profile.barheight then self:SetCandyBarHeight(Combat_Timer, self.db.profile.barheight) end |
| 17:56.17 | syeren | if self.db.profile.textsize then self:SetCandyBarFontSize(Combat_Timer, self.db.profile.textsize) end |
| 17:56.19 | syeren | if self.db.profile.bartex then self:SetCandyBarTexture(Combat_Timer, SM:Fetch("statusbar", self.db.profile.bartex)) end |
| 17:56.21 | cncfanatics | syeren |
| 17:56.22 | kenlyric | ack |
| 17:56.22 | syeren | if self.db.profile.textcolor then self:SetCandyBarTextColor(Combat_Timer, self.db.profile.textcolor) end |
| 17:56.24 | cncfanatics | dont spam the vhat |
| 17:56.24 | cryogen | alright, firing up wau :) |
| 17:56.24 | trh | eeerk.. don't syeren |
| 17:56.26 | syeren | if self.db.profile.barcolor then self:SetCandyBarColor(Combat_Timer, self.db.profile.barcolor) end |
| 17:56.28 | syeren | OH shit. |
| 17:56.28 | cncfanatics | or some mod is gonna kick u |
| 17:56.30 | syeren | Sorry. |
| 17:56.32 | syeren | >_< |
| 17:56.34 | syeren | Sorry. |
| 17:56.38 | syeren | It was a Mistake. |
| 17:56.41 | kenlyric | it lets you set how many shards you want to keep. |
| 17:56.43 | cncfanatics | http://ace.pastey.net is your and my friend |
| 17:56.51 | syeren | IT WAS A MISTAKE. |
| 17:56.58 | trh | copy & paste is a bad thing in irc clients :P |
| 17:56.58 | cncfanatics | (caps hurt my eyes too) |
| 17:57.02 | kenlyric | very nice keeping just enough shards to fill your shard bag. |
| 17:57.09 | trh | i wonder why they don't ask first on such big pastes ;) |
| 17:57.14 | charon | Antiarc: did the patch make sense to you? or have you been drowning in work like me |
| 17:57.28 | cncfanatics | now someone tell me how to customize the width of the waterfall window |
| 17:57.36 | Antiarc | Completely drowning in work =) |
| 17:57.39 | Antiarc | But it made sense |
| 17:57.48 | kenlyric | especially if you get imp drain soul, you'll need it. |
| 17:57.51 | cryogen | eeshards sound like the business |
| 17:58.01 | trh | charon: what patch? |
| 17:58.07 | cryogen | kenlyric: yes, improved drain soul is so imba |
| 17:58.11 | cryogen | the new version of it |
| 17:58.16 | kenlyric | eeshards, that's the one. |
| 17:58.22 | kenlyric | err, the one I use. |
| 17:58.24 | cryogen | nice |
| 17:58.33 | charon | Antiarc: ah, ok. :) |
| 17:58.37 | cryogen | cheers |
| 17:59.05 | cncfanatics | ok, sorry to spam but |
| 17:59.10 | cncfanatics | someone help me /sob |
| 17:59.13 | cncfanatics | ~sob |
| 17:59.14 | purl | rumour has it, sob is an acronym for Son Of a Bitch, or the sound of microsoft programmers realizing what they've done |
| 17:59.26 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 17:59.28 | Coruss | lol |
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| 17:59.55 | cncfanatics | now someone tell me how to change the width of this waterfall window lol |
| 18:00.30 | Xuerian | haha |
| 18:01.05 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, tell me ! |
| 18:01.11 | Xuerian | Uh |
| 18:01.16 | Xuerian | You mean by default? |
| 18:02.34 | cncfanatics | yea the default width |
| 18:02.38 | cncfanatics | not everything fits in it |
| 18:02.44 | cncfanatics | so I need it larger |
| 18:02.46 | trh | cncfanatics: did you try frame:SetHeight(...) and Width? |
| 18:02.50 | charon | WTB more detailed descriptions in wowace than the one liners, so i can figure out what to try without waiting for wowace.com all day |
| 18:03.18 | cncfanatics | trh, I have no frame |
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| 18:03.38 | cncfanatics | you dont get a frame link in waterfall unfortunatly |
| 18:04.46 | trh | cncfanatics: there's AceLibrary('Waterfall-1.0'].registry['yourframeid'] |
| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | trh, oooh |
| 18:05.22 | cncfanatics | weee |
| 18:05.25 | cncfanatics | ty |
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| 18:05.41 | trh | there should be a nicer way =) |
| 18:06.07 | cncfanatics | seems there aint afaik |
| 18:06.10 | cncfanatics | width is set automaticly |
| 18:06.13 | cncfanatics | just checked the code |
| 18:06.17 | cncfanatics | but it seems its buggy |
| 18:06.21 | cncfanatics | as my buttons are cut in half |
| 18:06.48 | cncfanatics | (I have a label, a text box and a button on the same line, it probably only resizes to the widest of the 3, instead of the sum of all 3 widths) |
| 18:07.21 | vhaarr | Tuller: when I use the search feature in bagnon, and then shift+click an icon to change the stack size, the focus remains in the search box |
| 18:07.26 | vhaarr | Tuller: just a slight annoyance |
| 18:07.33 | syeren | cncfanatics, PM please :/ |
| 18:08.30 | trh | cncfanatics: maybe calling Refresh(id) helps? |
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| 18:08.56 | cncfanatics | trh, I'll check |
| 18:10.22 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:10.24 | cncfanatics | I see the problem I think |
| 18:10.34 | cncfanatics | the window width is chosen when the waterfall opens |
| 18:10.39 | cncfanatics | but that aint when it is at its widest |
| 18:10.43 | cncfanatics | refresh might indeed help |
| 18:10.59 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 18:11.04 | cncfanatics | think I just triggered a chain reaction :p |
| 18:11.31 | cncfanatics | refresh does nothing to the window width, just lags my ui cuz the refresh causes the function that calls refresh to be recalled too, eek endless loop |
| 18:12.20 | trh | cool.. you should probably contact nargiddley if he's still active =) |
| 18:12.28 | cncfanatics | 4 days since he logged in |
| 18:12.37 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 18:12.38 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 5h 21m 26s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 18:12.44 | cncfanatics | ~shoot Nargiddley |
| 18:12.45 | purl | ACTION shoots Nargiddley in the eye with a spitwad! |
| 18:13.56 | cncfanatics | trh |
| 18:14.05 | cncfanatics | Waterfall.registry["FlexBar2"] is a table |
| 18:14.06 | cncfanatics | not a frame |
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| 18:14.10 | cncfanatics | where's the damn frame |
| 18:14.15 | trh | .frame |
| 18:14.24 | cncfanatics | oh lol |
| 18:14.30 | trh | but the functions in the table are passed through .frame |
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| 18:14.48 | cncfanatics | cant find that in my /dump of the table |
| 18:14.54 | cncfanatics | but that might be cuz the frame was closed |
| 18:14.57 | trh | waterfall uses a window prototype that has like SetWidth(...) frame.SetWidth(...) end |
| 18:15.11 | cncfanatics | works |
| 18:15.23 | NeoTron | so the change to the lock T5 bonus makes me want to get 2 pieces and try out demonology spec again |
| 18:15.41 | cncfanatics | now i'd like the window to appear wider, instead of be wider when I click a category |
| 18:15.49 | trh | NeoTron: i think it still sucks :P |
| 18:16.14 | NeoTron | trh: well |
| 18:16.23 | trh | cncfanatics: you got to search the function called when you click a category that refreshes the size and call it manually :P |
| 18:16.50 | trh | cncfanatics: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua hf :) |
| 18:16.59 | NeoTron | trh: it might be sufficient to keep a pet up in raids |
| 18:17.09 | NeoTron | and would be sickly good for soloing outside of raid, and for pvp |
| 18:17.16 | trh | NeoTron: it's worth 100g to try :) |
| 18:17.23 | cncfanatics | trh, I already got that open ^ |
| 18:17.32 | cncfanatics | I hate code digging |
| 18:17.46 | NeoTron | does the PTR still hand out T5? |
| 18:17.50 | trh | i like code digging more than the actual coding.. sometimes at least :) |
| 18:17.58 | mikma | dylanm: u sux |
| 18:18.06 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:18.12 | cncfanatics | I dont want to hook into the show function |
| 18:18.14 | cncfanatics | too nasty |
| 18:18.23 | NeoTron | I can imagine when soloing that you never need to heal the pet |
| 18:19.02 | dylanm | mikma: lol wut |
| 18:19.06 | trh | NeoTron: the question is if the additional pet damage makes you come close to affli/destro warlocks |
| 18:19.08 | cncfanatics | trh |
| 18:19.31 | mikma | dylanm: and your testes are the average size of the monkey |
| 18:19.41 | cncfanatics | does any function I can declare get called when the waterfall gets opened ? |
| 18:19.43 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 18:19.45 | cncfanatics | I open it myself |
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| 18:19.47 | cncfanatics | moron that I am |
| 18:19.52 | cncfanatics | I can just resize it right after open |
| 18:19.56 | trh | cncfanatics: i just wanted to tell it ;) |
| 18:20.00 | cncfanatics | ignore my stupidy |
| 18:20.07 | trh | cncfanatics: no... we enjoy it :P |
| 18:20.14 | cncfanatics | s/stupidy/stupidity/ |
| 18:20.42 | NeoTron | trh: in 5mans and 10 mans I never had any lock beat me as a felguard lock |
| 18:20.45 | trh | but i guess everyone has it's "i'm so smart, S-M-R-T" moments ;) |
| 18:20.54 | cncfanatics | lol trh |
| 18:21.04 | cncfanatics | I barely got any smart moments |
| 18:21.08 | cncfanatics | only stupid ones :p |
| 18:21.13 | trh | NeoTron: most likely because it's completly different... dot's cant tick out in 5mans =) |
| 18:21.14 | NeoTron | question is if this holds true in 25-man raids |
| 18:21.25 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r44011 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 18:21.25 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 18:21.25 | CIA-22 | - Bugfix: Disabling price for bag slots now works again |
| 18:21.40 | NeoTron | on bosses and for example the large felguard like demons in SL they do |
| 18:22.22 | NeoTron | I've seen felguard locks topping damage charts on fights like void reaver etc (on WWS) |
| 18:22.26 | cncfanatics | NeoTron, imo on bosses affli beats all cuz of mana efficiency |
| 18:22.56 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: nah |
| 18:23.02 | NeoTron | depends on the boss |
| 18:23.21 | NeoTron | for example on VR, I can beat aff locks because of soul leech still working while siphon life etc doesn't |
| 18:23.35 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 18:23.41 | cncfanatics | any fight where multiple adds can be dps'd at once , |
| 18:23.44 | trh | VR is a bad boss to compare dmg |
| 18:23.45 | NeoTron | gruul is one example where aff locks clearly are superior |
| 18:23.47 | cncfanatics | if so, affli os gonna totaly rock there |
| 18:23.56 | cncfanatics | s/os/is/ |
| 18:24.15 | trh | vashj is a nice fight to compare damage.. lots of adds =) |
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| 18:24.38 | NeoTron | fights like mags, lurker, hydross I completely own |
| 18:25.07 | NeoTron | mainly thouhg,. I always do enough DPS and I enjoy the build |
| 18:25.18 | NeoTron | even for soloing it's not too bad once you figure out the trick |
| 18:25.44 | NeoTron | like the water elementals in skettis I kill in 2-4 hits and the hp returned from VW sac and soul leech is sufficient to keep me going 90% of the time |
| 18:26.05 | trh | NeoTron: as a affli you can go 100% of the time.. drain life ftw |
| 18:26.11 | trh | healing like 4xx per tick |
| 18:26.20 | NeoTron | hrm. WWS is borked |
| 18:26.22 | cncfanatics | affli: |
| 18:26.22 | trh | runs thru very fast when haste procs of metagem |
| 18:26.25 | cncfanatics | syphon 4 mobs |
| 18:26.27 | cncfanatics | draintank |
| 18:26.29 | cncfanatics | repeat |
| 18:26.40 | NeoTron | I've played aff. I know how it works |
| 18:26.45 | NeoTron | and I know you can go indefinitely |
| 18:26.55 | NeoTron | and that it's way fricking better than destro for farming |
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| 18:27.11 | trh | anyway.. warlocks deserve a nerf :P |
| 18:27.16 | trh | *hates them in pvp* |
| 18:27.23 | NeoTron | however you'll be hardpressed to beat a destro locks DPS against a signle targeted boss with little mobility required where healing isn't an issue |
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| 18:27.39 | cncfanatics | NeoTron, there arent much bosses like that |
| 18:27.50 | cncfanatics | usualy not mobile fights require intensive healing |
| 18:27.56 | cncfanatics | and healers dont always got the time to heal ur lifetaps |
| 18:27.59 | abyssichate | once you get enough hit, even an affliction build might outdps a destro succubus-sacced build |
| 18:28.36 | trh | and if you get unlucky you have to provide the imp for the tanks and can't sac succu |
| 18:28.53 | cncfanatics | thats usualy an affli tho |
| 18:28.56 | abyssichate | I guess not everybody is destruction |
| 18:28.59 | cncfanatics | as they dont suffer from providing an imp |
| 18:29.00 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: I disagree... :) Fights where I have no issues: maulgar, hydross, lurker, morogrim, fathom-lord, leotheras, magtheridon |
| 18:29.12 | NeoTron | fights where I have issues: gruul, void reaver (but less so than affliction) |
| 18:29.23 | cncfanatics | everyone has issues on loot reaver |
| 18:29.45 | NeoTron | trh: I'm not unlucky, I'm the raid leader ;-) |
| 18:29.46 | trh | except bm hunters ;) |
| 18:29.54 | trh | NeoTron: hrhr :) |
| 18:30.00 | AnduinLothar | loot reaver is awesome lolz |
| 18:30.02 | NeoTron | with a shadow priest + soul leech though, I have zero issues |
| 18:30.03 | AnduinLothar | melee ftw |
| 18:30.23 | cncfanatics | AnduinLothar, I wonder what day loot reaver is gonna be solotanked |
| 18:30.27 | cncfanatics | wld be a nice vid |
| 18:30.40 | abyssichate | soul leech is no good in my opinion, it is often pure overhealing |
| 18:30.50 | art3mis | okay i lied about mint |
| 18:31.21 | NeoTron | abyssichate: only if you don't life tap appropriately |
| 18:31.26 | art3mis | appearantly thier live cd while fully working doesnt actually incorporate the needed files or drivers as part of thier "custom image install" to play mbedded video |
| 18:31.43 | NeoTron | just like with potions, you life tap as soon as you can do it without "over-manarestoring" |
| 18:31.49 | abyssichate | I lifetap when I am OOM so that I don't interrupt the dot rotation |
| 18:31.57 | NeoTron | thus maximizing the benefit of soul leech and other drain abilities |
| 18:32.14 | NeoTron | that is not optimal if you want to maximize the benefit from drains |
| 18:32.22 | trh | true |
| 18:32.31 | NeoTron | in some fights I life tap when I otherwise couldn't dps (transitions in hydross, bouncing around on mag etc) |
| 18:32.33 | abyssichate | I just have siphon life on which I use for the damage and not for the healing component |
| 18:32.40 | trh | life tap if you don't expect big damage and you can use the mana it generates |
| 18:32.44 | abyssichate | it is not like it makes a difference anyway |
| 18:32.53 | cncfanatics | well, locks get both hp & mana armor |
| 18:33.00 | cncfanatics | s/armor/regen/ |
| 18:33.05 | cncfanatics | any of them not active is a waste imo |
| 18:33.09 | NeoTron | abyssichate: I don't even know what you're talking about |
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| 18:33.25 | trh | i wonder how cool the new aspect of the viper will be.. 50% of my int every 5 seconds |
| 18:33.31 | trh | that's like 200 mana :) |
| 18:33.31 | NeoTron | abyssichate: siphon life is the primary reason why aff locks can go forever without OOM, combined with dark pact |
| 18:33.51 | NeoTron | trh: if you're low on mana |
| 18:34.09 | trh | NeoTron: sure.. i only use it then |
| 18:34.18 | abyssichate | I benefit from SL after the first time I go OOM and I lifetap back |
| 18:34.33 | NeoTron | seems to me the new mechanichs of aspect of the viper is meant to allow you to use the +AP aspect if you're >50% mana and then switch when you go below |
| 18:34.50 | trh | NeoTron: that's the way it's intended.. encourages switching |
| 18:35.03 | NeoTron | abyssichate: if you only life tap when you'er fully OOM you're not as effective as you can be for sure |
| 18:35.05 | vithos | people weren't switching already? |
| 18:35.17 | trh | vithos: depends on skill =) |
| 18:35.18 | dodgizzla | Hmmm |
| 18:35.25 | NeoTron | for example you often have 0.5-1.5s left on a dot - that's the perfect time for a life tap |
| 18:35.29 | trh | vithos: some were using it all the time.. stupid hunters =) |
| 18:35.30 | dodgizzla | How come SW_Stats spying in latest Violation is not working? |
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| 18:35.53 | cncfanatics | dodgizzla, probably syntax changes |
| 18:36.07 | dodgizzla | how? SW_Stats did not change |
| 18:36.22 | dodgizzla | So you probably mean somebody broke Violation? :D |
| 18:36.35 | cncfanatics | then someone probably broke it yea |
| 18:36.38 | cncfanatics | stalk the author |
| 18:36.47 | vithos | heh, well i'm glad for the change anyway of course. |
| 18:36.58 | dodgizzla | But ckknight already has me on his "Immediate Termination" list.. |
| 18:37.09 | dodgizzla | Or is ammo the author? |
| 18:37.16 | cncfanatics | dodgizzla, pay a private detective to stalk him |
| 18:37.22 | cncfanatics | no idea, but I dont think its ckk |
| 18:37.37 | sb | its [Ammo] and vhaarr |
| 18:37.42 | dodgizzla | Really? I thought that actually there are no other authors besides ckknight |
| 18:37.47 | dodgizzla | He is actually multiboxing |
| 18:38.41 | cncfanatics | yea, we're all ckknight |
| 18:38.46 | cncfanatics | except u ofc |
| 18:39.14 | dodgizzla | Hm, maybe I am, too, but don't know it yet? |
| 18:39.45 | KarlThePagan | so - DKPmon looks interesting, but reading about it makes me want to add TEA to the database synch |
| 18:40.27 | cncfanatics | KarlThePagan, dont want script kiddies to decode the stuff ? :o |
| 18:40.49 | vhaarr | sb: hm? |
| 18:40.49 | KarlThePagan | cncfanatics, with shady characters like AnduinLothar in my guild? wouldn't you ;) |
| 18:41.05 | cncfanatics | KarlThePagan, maby |
| 18:41.11 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 18:41.14 | cncfanatics | too busy on fb atm tho |
| 18:41.16 | AnduinLothar | I break things |
| 18:41.21 | cncfanatics | where is damn nargiddley |
| 18:41.33 | cncfanatics | I *need* Nargiddley |
| 18:41.35 | NeoTron | so dkpmon - might have to look at that CT_RaidAssist is a bit annoying |
| 18:41.48 | KarlThePagan | personally... I couldn't resist the thought of spying on addon message to see who's bidding on what |
| 18:42.19 | KarlThePagan | but I haven't looked into DKPmon that closely... the easy solution would be to use a custom channel instead of RAID or GUILD |
| 18:42.22 | NeoTron | oh it's an addon everyone has to use? |
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| 18:42.35 | NeoTron | that's not going to fly :P |
| 18:42.36 | cncfanatics | KarlThePagan, you could just spy on that channel |
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| 18:42.46 | cncfanatics | encryption sounds better |
| 18:42.47 | KarlThePagan | cncfanatics, you can moderate custom channels ;) |
| 18:42.58 | KarlThePagan | I do like the idea of encrypting it ;) |
| 18:43.51 | cncfanatics | encrypt it and use RAID imo |
| 18:44.07 | dodgizzla | [Ammoo]: Did you break SW_Stats spying in Violation? :( |
| 18:44.13 | KarlThePagan | for our loot system we'd have to use GUILD |
| 18:45.10 | KarlThePagan | right now it's straight loot council... but it looks like the people who want something less arbitrary are going to have to sell a solution to leadership |
| 18:45.13 | cncfanatics | KarlThePagan, people outside the raid can bid ? |
| 18:45.15 | trh | but if you encrypt it the "auctionator" can still watch it |
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| 18:45.26 | KarlThePagan | cncfanatics, people outside the raid vote on award |
| 18:45.32 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 18:45.34 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 18:45.39 | cncfanatics | better use a custom channel then |
| 18:45.48 | cncfanatics | so u can as well let people outside the guild vote if needed |
| 18:45.54 | cncfanatics | some guy on an alt or whatever |
| 18:45.57 | KarlThePagan | ja |
| 18:46.01 | KarlThePagan | agreed |
| 18:47.09 | cncfanatics | can someone contact Nargiddley ? |
| 18:47.18 | cncfanatics | and tell him he'll get killed withint 2 seconds if he doesnt log in |
| 18:47.56 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 18:48.03 | cncfanatics | and he made an error with a new function he implented for me |
| 18:48.07 | cncfanatics | I'm not getting any arguments lol |
| 18:49.28 | sb | mh mh |
| 18:49.31 | sb | ckknight: ping |
| 18:49.37 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44012 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Slight increase on grabbing the slain message from the last death message |
| 18:50.35 | dodgizzla | Hm Links throws a lot of errors right in my face :\ |
| 18:51.29 | sb | ckknight: http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3263/wowscrnshot071707202142to4.jpg <-- "[name]"? :P |
| 18:51.30 | cncfanatics | ok well, i'm locked again till somehow provides me a solution |
| 18:51.57 | Esteth | Hey all, i just installed WAU, and mass-updated my addons, but to my dismay, bigwigs, cartographer, and pitbull seem to have broken. These 3 addons also seem to have flooded my addons folder with lots of what appear to be sub-addons, like pitbull_resticon and quartz_swing. Anyone know what the problem is? |
| 18:53.29 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 18:53.32 | KarlThePagan | Esteth, that is the intended functionality - WAU unpacks these addons |
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| 18:54.03 | KarlThePagan | it should be the same as running the "cartographer_lod.bat" script |
| 18:54.08 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/FlexBar2.tar.gz can someone check this and tell me why all arguments passed to changedFunc on line 136 are nil ? |
| 18:54.15 | cncfanatics | think its an error from Nargiddley but i'm not sure |
| 18:54.20 | cncfanatics | ~seen Fisker- |
| 18:54.23 | purl | fisker- is currently on #wowace (1d 33m 15s) #wowwiki (1d 33m 15s). Has said a total of 370 messages. Is idling for 17m 18s, last said: 'slowwiki is sloooooooooooooooow?'. |
| 18:54.39 | Fisker- | OH HI |
| 18:54.47 | dodgizzla | Esteth: There is no problem; they unpacked those folders for LoD |
| 18:55.06 | Esteth | Karl: ahh, that sorts that out. i've changed some options in WAU and attemtped to reinstall everything, going to try another reloadui now |
| 18:55.19 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 18:55.37 | cncfanatics | Fisker- , check what I said :) <cncfanatics> http://cncfanatic.free.fr/FlexBar2.tar.gz can someone check this and tell me why all arguments passed to changedFunc on line 136 are nil ? |
| 18:55.39 | sylvanaar | have you read the wiki page? |
| 18:55.41 | Fisker- | i'm gonna stick my cock up IGN's asses |
| 18:55.54 | Fisker- | well cncfanatics i don't code :P |
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| 18:56.03 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater |
| 18:56.09 | reiser | hi all |
| 18:56.09 | Esteth | sylvanaar: I've took a look at it, |
| 18:56.16 | Fisker- | so i wouldn't know :< |
| 18:56.27 | sylvanaar | Esteth thats the way I have mine setup |
| 18:56.27 | cncfanatics | Fisker-; u don't ? -.- |
| 18:56.31 | cncfanatics | u helped me earlyer, sure u do :p |
| 18:56.37 | Esteth | sjs" |
| 18:56.40 | Esteth | *aha! |
| 18:56.51 | Fisker- | well cncfanatics that was easymode |
| 18:56.55 | NeoTron | Esteth: you did restart after updating right? |
| 18:57.01 | Esteth | I had "include dependancies" un-ticked >_< |
| 18:57.04 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, that too ;) |
| 18:57.10 | reiser | i have problem; sometimes i play wow and when i type /1 it shows me some AceChannel instead General major city channel - can i disable that ? |
| 18:57.10 | Fisker- | correcting syntax errors are not a problem :P |
| 18:57.18 | Esteth | NeoTron: yes, of course. problem fixed now :) |
| 18:57.20 | reiser | i want General channel to be always shown when i type /1... |
| 18:57.25 | cncfanatics | I think its an error in waterfall, but not sure :/ |
| 18:58.13 | cncfanatics | someone help :( |
| 18:58.33 | reiser | can some1 answer me plz :) ? |
| 18:58.37 | Fisker- | wth did you do the menu btw? |
| 18:58.57 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, what u mean ? |
| 18:59.19 | charon | has nightbane been changed last patch? i've just MTed as druid, never lost aggro even though i was feared plenty of times |
| 19:00.06 | Fisker- | it's fullscreen here |
| 19:00.13 | cncfanatics | its 1000x1000 |
| 19:00.16 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna need the space :p |
| 19:00.20 | cncfanatics | but dont mind thaty |
| 19:00.23 | KarlThePagan | charon, our druid MT did get feared once and noone died - it confused me |
| 19:00.26 | cncfanatics | go try to create a button |
| 19:00.35 | cncfanatics | u shld have lots of nils from debug while typing |
| 19:00.38 | cncfanatics | now I wonder why those are nil |
| 19:00.48 | cncfanatics | "changedFunc", function(...) buttonctrl_CreateSave = ButtonName; FlexBar2:Debug(...); end); |
| 19:00.52 | Fisker- | w i have no idea :P |
| 19:00.55 | cncfanatics | that debug func gives nil |
| 19:01.03 | cncfanatics | so I'm rly not getting any arguments |
| 19:01.04 | Mec | anyone familiar with how the bigwigs sync works? |
| 19:01.38 | Fisker- | well it's proportional to each time i write a letter |
| 19:02.11 | Xuerian | i want one. http://www.perceptivepixel.com/ |
| 19:02.12 | vhaarr | Mec: me |
| 19:02.20 | kergoth | argh, my jc is stalled at 361. whats the best way to get ahold of some of the rare recipes to cut blue gems? |
| 19:02.24 | kergoth | just run random shit? |
| 19:02.33 | cncfanatics | ~seen Gagorian |
| 19:02.35 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 15h 48m 7s, last said: 'Nice guild you got there!'. |
| 19:02.39 | reiser | peeps, sometimes i play wow and when i type /1 it shows me some AceChannel instead General major city channel - can i disable that ? |
| 19:02.47 | cncfanatics | kergoth, they're all world drops |
| 19:02.52 | cncfanatics | so the best way is to farm the auction house |
| 19:02.59 | cncfanatics | ping gagorian |
| 19:03.02 | KarlThePagan | oh shit... I didn't know A'lar's mount was a 310% |
| 19:03.11 | Mec | vhaar: when I call sync, will I recieve that message within BigWigs_RecvSync locally? I'm trying to figure out where to put the code that performs the warnings/whatnot |
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| 19:03.34 | vhaarr | Mec: yes, you will |
| 19:03.41 | vhaarr | Mec: wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs/ModuleAPI |
| 19:03.52 | cncfanatics | reiser, thats not cuz of ace itself, but because of an aced addon |
| 19:03.58 | cncfanatics | you have to find out what addon it is and disable it |
| 19:03.59 | Josh_Borke | www.wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs/ModuleAPI <-- made clickable |
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| 19:04.24 | Mec | vhaarr: I've read that a dozen times but wasn't entirely sure |
| 19:04.36 | vhaarr | Mec: alright, then you should let me know in the forum thread |
| 19:04.39 | vhaarr | that I need to clarify |
| 19:05.01 | Mec | vhaarr: naw it's not that, i read it a dozen times at 5am without sleep ;p |
| 19:05.34 | kergoth | cncfanatics, guh, pain in the ass. thanks |
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| 19:06.32 | cncfanatics | kergoth, I always like to spread misery, np :) |
| 19:07.26 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm i disabled every library at the char login screen (using standalonelibraries) and when i login, ace2's supposed to only enable the libraries in use right? |
| 19:07.45 | NM|Xinhuan | it doesn't enable parser-3.0 but enables everything else correctly |
| 19:07.50 | NM|Xinhuan | so SCT fails to load |
| 19:08.01 | dylanm | NM|Xinhuan: I don't think that's how it works... |
| 19:08.22 | cncfanatics | I think it is |
| 19:08.25 | cncfanatics | but it fails sometimes |
| 19:08.36 | cncfanatics | its probably parser-3.0 not properly declared LoD |
| 19:08.43 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm i'll check |
| 19:08.51 | NM|Xinhuan | to see if its LOD |
| 19:08.53 | cncfanatics | if its not that, then I got no clue |
| 19:09.29 | NM|Xinhuan | ## LoadOnDemand: 1 |
| 19:09.33 | NM|Xinhuan | yep its there in parserlib |
| 19:09.50 | NM|Xinhuan | so maybe some ace library expert can look into it ;p |
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| 19:11.02 | KarlThePagan | reiser, that happens to me when I logout on a mount |
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| 19:13.05 | Esteth | Is the documentation for libraries without a wiki page or a readme file "just read through the code and figure it out" ? |
| 19:13.22 | NeoTron | heh last night on Mag, my average hit was 3947... Oh how I love destruction |
| 19:13.34 | cncfanatics | its figure it for most esteth |
| 19:13.40 | NM|Xinhuan | ^ |
| 19:14.13 | NM|Xinhuan | many library authors seem to have only written the library for one of their addons they worked on - so they didn't leave docs |
| 19:14.36 | loonacy | Is there an Ace mod for managing trinkets? |
| 19:14.44 | cncfanatics | loonacy, not that I know off |
| 19:14.50 | cncfanatics | but twintrinkets does its job well enough |
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| 19:15.00 | Esteth | NM / cncfanatics: ok, thanks |
| 19:15.15 | NM|Xinhuan | could probably just go to wowace.com/files and search for the "trinket" word |
| 19:15.46 | NM|Xinhuan | i just use itemrack heh |
| 19:16.19 | Mec | Ya I switched to closetgnome and miss that part of itemrack, especially since they broke item macros |
| 19:16.36 | NM|Xinhuan | you mean the /use 13 and /use 14 icons? |
| 19:16.48 | Mec | yup, kinda useless to see a ? with no timer |
| 19:17.04 | NM|Xinhuan | ya |
| 19:17.15 | cncfanatics | Mec |
| 19:17.18 | cncfanatics | #show 13 |
| 19:17.22 | cncfanatics | and #show 14 |
| 19:17.25 | cncfanatics | will show cooldown + icon |
| 19:17.26 | NM|Xinhuan | that doesn't work cncfanatics |
| 19:17.32 | NM|Xinhuan | its broken |
| 19:17.32 | cncfanatics | hmm, they removed it ? |
| 19:17.34 | Mec | naw, they broke it in 2.1.3 it doesnt work anymore |
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| 19:17.43 | cncfanatics | oh, slouken did its job well |
| 19:17.45 | cncfanatics | report it |
| 19:17.46 | Mec | its a "known bug" that is supposed to be fixed in 2.2 |
| 19:17.50 | NM|Xinhuan | until they fix it in the next patch it will just show a ? |
| 19:18.02 | Esteth | i might be seeming stupid, but can't you just drag the trinket onto an actionbar? |
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| 19:18.14 | Kaydeethree | but what happens if you change trinkets? |
| 19:18.15 | Mec | ya, that works unless you switch trinkets alot |
| 19:18.16 | cncfanatics | Esteth, it wont change when you equip new ones then |
| 19:18.18 | NM|Xinhuan | yes - but it would only work for that trinket |
| 19:18.28 | Esteth | ahh, i see what you mean then :) |
| 19:18.29 | NM|Xinhuan | rather than "any trinket that is currently equipped" |
| 19:19.13 | snorks | well call me a retard |
| 19:19.19 | snorks | but im happy in IE 7.0 |
| 19:19.27 | snorks | IE7 sorry |
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| 19:19.39 | cncfanatics | snorks |
| 19:19.49 | snorks | sup cncfanatics |
| 19:19.52 | cncfanatics | u like memory eating programs ? -.- |
| 19:20.01 | cncfanatics | (evolve from the pala forums here btw if u remember me :p) |
| 19:20.03 | Mec | you mean firefox? |
| 19:20.06 | Xuerian | IE7 is fine for any light browsing for me when I'm in game and my p3/756mb box doesn't want to deal with a plugin-loaded firefox on the other screen |
| 19:20.20 | cncfanatics | my firefox has no plugins |
| 19:20.21 | cncfanatics | runs fine |
| 19:20.22 | Xuerian | ... in the rare situation aforementioned firefox isn't already loaded |
| 19:20.23 | NM|Xinhuan | don't install plugins ;) |
| 19:20.28 | durcyn | it's not a matter of memory, it's a matter of throwing yourself in front of exploit code and screaming at the top of your lungs "ROOT ME" |
| 19:20.35 | snorks | unless the memory diagnostic thingy in vista is corrupt in favor of microsoft, then i'd say you don't know what you're talking about |
| 19:20.48 | cncfanatics | snorks, vista :o thats one big bug tbh |
| 19:20.50 | snorks | firefox and opera both use more mem than IE with the same tabs open, at least they do for me |
| 19:20.54 | snorks | and |
| 19:21.00 | snorks | nothing swaps as good as IE |
| 19:21.06 | durcyn | "hi i run windows as administrator and use a browser with a security model that consists of a huge gaping hole, please send me your exploits" |
| 19:21.07 | snorks | leave it alone for a time, and it will have swapped out lots of stuff |
| 19:21.08 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 19:21.12 | snorks | down to only using 10 MB of memory |
| 19:21.15 | Xuerian | Seeing as IE uses built-in controls, it is bound to run on lower mem since things are built straight into the operating system. I am not condoning IE usage, though |
| 19:21.19 | snorks | compared to firefox' 80 MB |
| 19:21.28 | cncfanatics | 80 megs ? |
| 19:21.32 | cncfanatics | mine uses like 12 |
| 19:21.37 | Mec | well it's hard to argue that IE doesnt get a benefit from being embedded in the OS, but all you gotta do is look at how easy IE is to hijack |
| 19:21.37 | Esteth | mine leaks |
| 19:21.46 | durcyn | did i mention that it's about as secure as leaving your car parked in the middle of a street in lower manhattan with the doors open? |
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| 19:21.56 | cncfanatics | 8 tabs open and one being this irc chat draining lots of mem cuz it takes one refresh / sec |
| 19:21.59 | PProvost | OUCH! |
| 19:22.01 | Xuerian | I'm not so worried about my router hacking me. |
| 19:22.05 | Xuerian | Which is about all I open in IE |
| 19:22.14 | jme | heh, only 2 of the top 10 arena teams in my battlegroup have hunters on the team |
| 19:22.29 | jme | and the ones that do aren't in that many games compared to the others |
| 19:22.42 | cncfanatics | problem with IE imo is, ofc the security holes |
| 19:22.48 | Xuerian | Of course |
| 19:22.54 | Xuerian | Don't know if anyone is questioning that |
| 19:22.56 | cncfanatics | and its damn slow on my comp, but that might be cuz I got to emulate it if I want to run it (wine) |
| 19:22.56 | Xuerian | o-0 |
| 19:23.14 | cncfanatics | only ever ran it once cuz some damn website only wanted to display on IE |
| 19:23.26 | cncfanatics | (when opening with any other browser I got, this website only supports MSIE etc) |
| 19:23.33 | jme | heh, i have vmware on my macbook pro and boot my vista partition if i need anything in windows |
| 19:23.35 | Xuerian | Which is stupid. |
| 19:23.45 | cncfanatics | vista, I hate what they made of it |
| 19:23.48 | cncfanatics | it could have been SO good |
| 19:23.51 | cncfanatics | but no, DRM ftl |
| 19:23.57 | Xuerian | meheheh... |
| 19:24.09 | cncfanatics | wonder if purl got the definition already |
| 19:24.12 | cncfanatics | ~DRM |
| 19:24.13 | purl | drm is, like, a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No(TM) |
| 19:24.13 | Xuerian | Even the government disallows usage of vista. Doesn't that tell you something? |
| 19:24.21 | jme | well, i own xp pro, but i got tired of it complaining about hardware changes because i kept booting it in vmware and natively, so i got a permenantly activated copy of vista ;) |
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| 19:24.51 | cncfanatics | well, DRM is just silly |
| 19:24.57 | jme | ~whistle |
| 19:25.01 | jme | :( |
| 19:25.07 | cncfanatics | it encrypts about everything at worse then CIA level |
| 19:25.14 | cncfanatics | cpu cycles anyone ? |
| 19:25.43 | Esteth | hmm. I'm looking at using GraphLib and a database to collect information about item prices over time and display them at the auction house so i can see trends in item prices. Two problems i'm thinking about: 1) Where would i put the graph. 2) would the memory consumption be insane? |
| 19:26.03 | cncfanatics | Esteth, dynamicaly generate the graph when needed |
| 19:26.10 | Pkekyo | http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planethalflife.gamespy.com/fms/images/potd/2522/1168144721_medium.jpg :> |
| 19:26.15 | cncfanatics | Esteth, u shld use an already existing database |
| 19:26.18 | cncfanatics | I suggest auctioneer |
| 19:26.23 | cncfanatics | (yes the usage of such addons is insane) |
| 19:26.35 | Xuerian | It's not, really |
| 19:26.41 | Xuerian | Load it when you need it, it's great at what it does |
| 19:26.55 | cncfanatics | LoD its ok, indeed |
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| 19:28.34 | deltron | another st. louis person eh |
| 19:28.50 | Esteth | sounds good. I'll take a look at leeching from the auctioneer database then, or perhaps the KC_Items one, allthough i'm not sure that keeps track of AH prices |
| 19:29.15 | cncfanatics | purl, DRM is also better known as "Direct Restriction Management" |
| 19:29.15 | purl | cncfanatics: okay |
| 19:29.22 | cncfanatics | ~DRM |
| 19:29.23 | purl | drm is probably a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No(TM), or better known as ... |
| 19:29.26 | Xuerian | Know what's scary? |
| 19:29.30 | Xuerian | Kernel-level advertising |
| 19:29.47 | cncfanatics | eh, tell us more |
| 19:29.51 | deltron | umm |
| 19:29.56 | deltron | google ads in the commandline? |
| 19:29.57 | Xuerian | lern2read ms conspiracy =X |
| 19:30.10 | NM|Xinhuan | do you really need an addon to see the trend of an item price? |
| 19:30.12 | NM|Xinhuan | ;) |
| 19:30.18 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, more scary is that u can *already* inject third party code into the kernel of vista |
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| 19:30.21 | deltron | NM|Xinhuan: historical data, yes |
| 19:30.24 | cncfanatics | with a bootloader |
| 19:30.26 | NM|Xinhuan | what items are you planning to use it on? |
| 19:30.27 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Lovely |
| 19:30.28 | cncfanatics | pretty funny to get stuff in the kernel |
| 19:30.40 | cncfanatics | u can do about everything u want, disable whatever u want |
| 19:30.43 | cncfanatics | *enable* whatever u want |
| 19:31.03 | Esteth | NM: Potions and herbs really, since that's where my professions are |
| 19:31.24 | cncfanatics | someone actualy used it to hack that stupid DRM protection, thus it lasted one week in practice |
| 19:31.35 | art3mis | conspiracy implies intelligence ;P |
| 19:31.44 | NM|Xinhuan | ah |
| 19:31.51 | cncfanatics | intelligence and microsoft shldntb e used in the same phrase |
| 19:32.08 | cncfanatics | s/shldntb e/ shouldnt be/ |
| 19:32.29 | trh | cncfanatics: wait for active TPM modules that only let signed kernels run :P |
| 19:32.30 | art3mis | god i wish 1 thats right 1 bloody livecd actually installed the os almost image like with all the shit working in the install that was working in the live cd |
| 19:32.54 | art3mis | this whole bullshit patch to get flash and wmv 's working by instlaling the 32bit and the 64 bit is getting tedious |
| 19:32.55 | trh | art3mis: knoppix does a good job |
| 19:33.05 | art3mis | isnt knoppix live only? |
| 19:33.14 | trh | art3mis: there's a installer for it |
| 19:33.20 | durcyn | knoppix can be installed to hdd |
| 19:33.24 | art3mis | ive gotten pretty much every x64 image |
| 19:33.41 | art3mis | and every single one the live works great, the installed is just raw unconfigured packages |
| 19:33.46 | art3mis | its getting annoying |
| 19:33.47 | deltron | 64 bit causes a lot of headaches |
| 19:33.50 | art3mis | yeah |
| 19:34.03 | trh | Arrowmaster: sudo su |
| 19:34.06 | art3mis | at least with suse they use a good dir structure and there are decent tutorials for doing it |
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| 19:34.08 | trh | err.. art3mis |
| 19:34.16 | trh | art3mis: and then /usr/local/bin/knx-hdinstall |
| 19:34.18 | art3mis | im getting sick of the hacks though |
| 19:34.32 | art3mis | like takesabyon for instance |
| 19:34.32 | cncfanatics | trh, if you can modify the kernel |
| 19:34.36 | cncfanatics | you can just disable that check |
| 19:34.45 | trh | cncfanatics: you can't modify the kernel without breaking the signature |
| 19:34.54 | trh | cncfanatics: when the tpm module would only let signed code run |
| 19:34.55 | art3mis | live cd has full PROPER ati fglrx support and 3d hardware accel and gaming |
| 19:34.58 | cncfanatics | trh, you can disable the signature check though |
| 19:35.06 | cncfanatics | disable the tpm module then ? :p |
| 19:35.14 | art3mis | install it and that all goes away and its just a bunch of pre packaged unconfigured and broken shit |
| 19:35.19 | trh | cncfanatics: not with unsigned code if the module wouldnt run it |
| 19:35.29 | trh | cncfanatics: the thing is that ther aren't any active tpm modules atm |
| 19:35.31 | cncfanatics | hmmm true |
| 19:35.46 | art3mis | it's easier to hack a signed code sig ;P |
| 19:35.48 | cncfanatics | wouldnt that be one more memory & cpu cycle hog ? |
| 19:35.54 | cncfanatics | as if there arent enough yet |
| 19:36.06 | trh | cncfanatics: err? tpm = hardware |
| 19:36.29 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 19:36.39 | cncfanatics | even more expensive hardware that only runs on vista then |
| 19:36.44 | cncfanatics | even better :p |
| 19:36.57 | trh | cncfanatics: no.. integrated in the cpu in a few years.. and then you're fucked :) |
| 19:37.04 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 19:37.07 | cncfanatics | dont run vista then heh |
| 19:37.15 | trh | what else could you run? :P |
| 19:37.20 | cncfanatics | debian linux ? |
| 19:37.21 | trh | linux = unsigned = nope :) |
| 19:37.26 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 19:37.34 | cncfanatics | so in a few years only microsoft can make run code ? :o |
| 19:37.41 | trh | in theory, yes |
| 19:37.49 | trh | if they integrate active tpm modules |
| 19:37.53 | cncfanatics | that seems something for the monopoly laws |
| 19:37.58 | trh | which i wouldn't doubt too much with crazy RIAA and stuff |
| 19:37.58 | durcyn | no, in a few years only microsoft can play disney's video, is what it really comes down to |
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| 19:38.23 | cncfanatics | durcyn, people already hacked that protection |
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| 19:38.32 | cncfanatics | I been reading a lot about those certificates |
| 19:38.35 | cncfanatics | they're poorly designed |
| 19:39.00 | cncfanatics | and I've been wondering |
| 19:39.00 | Xuerian | art3mis: If you figure out how to get one of those distros with proper ati installed, tell me :P |
| 19:39.13 | smoke_ | hey guys, i was just curious, is there a difference from decursive and having sraidframes and spamming the decrusive key while u hover overt he unitframe? |
| 19:39.29 | art3mis | xuer: heh yeah ill be ranting about it |
| 19:39.34 | Esteth | Xuerian: I got Ubuntu installed with direct hardware accelleration, but not with a composite window manager at the same time |
| 19:39.38 | smoke_ | other than it announcing it thru |
| 19:39.42 | art3mis | vlos actually seems to be the best choice so far, that or mepis |
| 19:39.49 | smoke_ | that one window and the microunitframe wiindow |
| 19:39.52 | art3mis | at least the ati-config doesnt fucking core when you run it |
| 19:40.03 | art3mis | (assuming you don't wanna go suse 10.2) |
| 19:40.04 | trh | Xuerian: 1-way would be to ditch the ati card in the trash can and get a nvidia card :) |
| 19:40.13 | art3mis | nvidia can suck my balls |
| 19:40.15 | Xuerian | trh: When money isn't a issue, that's first on my list |
| 19:40.21 | art3mis | piece of shit cards |
| 19:40.30 | Xuerian | art3mis: But drivers that work |
| 19:40.39 | art3mis | they work fine in windows and fbsd ;P |
| 19:40.41 | cncfanatics | trh, I've been wondering another thing |
| 19:40.47 | trh | art3mis: ati builds nicer cards.. but the drivers are worse on every platform |
| 19:40.55 | cncfanatics | u know how the certificates to remotely disable hardware of HD video work ? |
| 19:41.02 | art3mis | trh: that should be changing with amd in control |
| 19:41.06 | durcyn | i know the guy doing ati's drivers right now |
| 19:41.11 | durcyn | and that is why i will never buy another one of their cards |
| 19:41.15 | art3mis | its even noticable about how closethey've been doing with thier linux drivers |
| 19:41.15 | trh | art3mis: i doubt that |
| 19:41.18 | trh | durcyn: lol :) |
| 19:41.25 | Xuerian | art3mis: I liked my nvidia better, but I think that's because I got a le version accidentally >_< |
| 19:41.26 | art3mis | they're just a bit slower |
| 19:41.59 | trh | art3mis: slower? the windows drivers crashed in nefarians room for like 1 year |
| 19:42.05 | art3mis | then again i ahve kde too so... |
| 19:42.13 | trh | art3mis: (ati drivers) |
| 19:42.21 | art3mis | hate rather |
| 19:42.37 | art3mis | trh: yeah that was actually a wow bug though |
| 19:42.38 | art3mis | ;) |
| 19:42.49 | AnduinLothar | <3 my X1900 |
| 19:42.53 | art3mis | at higher res's ati is still my absolute fav |
| 19:43.05 | art3mis | at shit 1280x1024 nvidia is fine |
| 19:43.10 | art3mis | atis suck at low res |
| 19:43.17 | cncfanatics | 1600x1200 ati is fine |
| 19:43.19 | art3mis | the raedon chipset always has |
| 19:43.19 | trh | art3mis: a cards vpu should never hang regardless of what the application does |
| 19:43.31 | cncfanatics | and they seemed to have done hard work on their drivers |
| 19:43.37 | art3mis | past 1440 they rule though |
| 19:43.37 | cncfanatics | the worked out of the box for my debian for a change |
| 19:43.38 | trh | art3mis: ati's suck at dual screen |
| 19:43.53 | art3mis | no they dont |
| 19:43.59 | AnduinLothar | my ati is fine with 2 screens |
| 19:44.01 | art3mis | you just have crap monitors ;P |
| 19:44.07 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:44.21 | Esteth | art3mis: I'm running 1920*1200+1280*1024 on nVidia and i run just fine :S |
| 19:44.31 | trh | art3mis: my ati couldnt do 2560x1024 under linux, while doing it fine under windows |
| 19:44.34 | AnduinLothar | I have the same on my X1900 |
| 19:44.37 | art3mis | esteth: just fine is alright ;P |
| 19:44.54 | Esteth | ^^ |
| 19:45.00 | art3mis | trh: thats linux though, we cant compare that becausethe ati drivers are almost ALWAYS a gen behind |
| 19:45.14 | art3mis | ive always used ati's |
| 19:45.18 | art3mis | always loved them |
| 19:45.26 | art3mis | as long asyou dont install the catalyst software they own |
| 19:45.36 | trh | art3mis: well. i'll buy ati again if they release either open source drivers, or their linux drivers get like... 1000% better.. until then nvidia only |
| 19:45.43 | art3mis | and if you do install that cat soft you need to die in a fire ;P |
| 19:45.58 | art3mis | trh: the linivia drivers are pretty good |
| 19:46.00 | cncfanatics | trh, whats wrong with current linux drivers ? |
| 19:46.05 | trh | cncfanatics: for ati? |
| 19:46.08 | trh | cncfanatics: everything |
| 19:46.09 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 19:46.15 | cncfanatics | what is that ? :p |
| 19:46.20 | art3mis | the prop drivers from ati have issuesbecause of all the different kernel versions around |
| 19:46.21 | trh | cncfanatics: bad performance (compared to windows), suck at dualscreen |
| 19:46.26 | trh | cncfanatics: no easy installation |
| 19:46.28 | cncfanatics | they're running fine since they actualy did some work (which is since june 13th) |
| 19:46.36 | trh | cncfanatics: not enough configuration options |
| 19:46.38 | cncfanatics | and they installed out of the box too |
| 19:46.42 | trh | cncfanatics: (esp. with dual screen) |
| 19:46.43 | cncfanatics | agree on the config |
| 19:46.52 | charon | art3mis: i hope you're being sarcastic when you say "a generation"... up until _two minor versions_ ago, maybe 2-3 months, my fglrx did about 400ish glxgears fps on a mobility 9600 |
| 19:46.53 | Esteth | And they dont do compositing |
| 19:47.13 | art3mis | charon: heh ;) |
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| 19:47.16 | trh | yeah.. forgot about composite |
| 19:47.22 | trh | i rarely use it =) |
| 19:47.44 | charon | now it does 2000ish while my flat mate's desktop nvidia whatever zooms off at 18k |
| 19:48.02 | trh | cncfanatics: ati driver installation = 6hours and still nothing works, getting only strange error messages |
| 19:48.10 | Esteth | Hehe, my ATI card hated mismatched dual screens + wine-wow + beryl. So i switched to nVidia :D |
| 19:48.13 | trh | cncfanatics: nvidia = 3 clicks |
| 19:48.22 | trh | cncfanatics: works perfectly with dualscreen and everything |
| 19:48.52 | trh | everytime you install reiserfs, reiser kills another woman :P |
| 19:49.06 | AnduinLothar | long as they're ugly |
| 19:49.18 | cncfanatics | trh, it took me 10 minutes to install them -.- |
| 19:49.20 | art3mis | trh: to be fair the only reason nvidia does so wellw as because they were the cheap ass card for a long time and most linux nerds used them |
| 19:49.31 | art3mis | now its switched where ati is cheaper in some cases so... |
| 19:49.34 | trh | cncfanatics: let me guess: no dual screen? |
| 19:49.36 | cncfanatics | download , run withj --buildpkg=debian/unstable, m-a prepare, m-a a-i fglrx, done |
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| 19:49.43 | art3mis | itll flip back and forth a lot i expect |
| 19:49.45 | cncfanatics | nope no dual screen indeed :p |
| 19:49.57 | trh | cncfanatics: yeah.. ati drivers might be fine without dualscreen |
| 19:50.07 | trh | cncfanatics: (config-wise) |
| 19:50.17 | art3mis | but i honestly believethat with amd in control ati driver support is gonna get shitloads better |
| 19:50.25 | art3mis | even if the hardware doesnt |
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| 19:50.31 | trh | art3mis: uh.. i don't think so.. here ati was always cheaper than nvidia |
| 19:50.33 | cncfanatics | they are getting better, slowly |
| 19:50.46 | art3mis | trh: have some more glue ;P |
| 19:50.50 | cncfanatics | I used to not like ati cuz of the shit driver install process (6h indeed ... sucked ass) |
| 19:50.51 | art3mis | tnt2 |
| 19:50.55 | art3mis | ^^ nvidia |
| 19:51.03 | cncfanatics | but I installed debian last week and it was a breeze so i'm fine with em now |
| 19:51.12 | art3mis | cheapest piece of crap 16/32mb 4x agp card for the longest time |
| 19:51.19 | trh | cncfanatics: wait until you want dual screen or stuff :) |
| 19:51.33 | trh | art3mis: i meant at the time when ati released 9600 series |
| 19:51.35 | Esteth | dual-screen is like broadband |
| 19:51.35 | cncfanatics | trh, getting a laptop in august |
| 19:51.38 | cncfanatics | we'll see how it goes |
| 19:51.53 | art3mis | hehe thats like saying sure yer porche is nice but wait til you wanna go 4x4ing ;P |
| 19:52.02 | trh | cncfanatics: it's a major PITA with ati |
| 19:52.07 | art3mis | if its never used its not a comparisson point ;P |
| 19:52.10 | art3mis | silly wierdos |
| 19:52.13 | trh | ouch.. reading "porche" hurts my eyes :P |
| 19:52.20 | trh | they are called "porsche" :P |
| 19:52.25 | art3mis | actually ati mobility support is ALOT better for some reason |
| 19:52.34 | art3mis | yeah i missed the s sorry ;P |
| 19:52.41 | NightHawkAtWork | your mom's a porsche.. er.. wait.. >.> |
| 19:53.10 | art3mis | nighthawk: not much trunk space so good thing you've got a small package to put in there when you go for rides ;P |
| 19:53.17 | art3mis | bazing! |
| 19:53.45 | Fisker- | I guess this is why they call this channel #wowace ROFL xD |
| 19:53.51 | art3mis | allthe lower x300-1150ish work wicked default |
| 19:54.05 | art3mis | for mobility chipset stuff |
| 19:54.14 | cncfanatics | hmmm ok |
| 19:54.19 | art3mis | a large portion of ati's suckiness in linux though is due to the X server you run |
| 19:54.22 | cncfanatics | forget all I said |
| 19:54.26 | cncfanatics | wow is stuttering a lot |
| 19:54.29 | cncfanatics | crap drivers |
| 19:54.31 | cncfanatics | lemme reboot X |
| 19:54.39 | art3mis | for example 7.1 with 8.36.3my x300 was amazing |
| 19:54.49 | trh | i think X is a big piece of junk :) |
| 19:54.52 | art3mis | that same driver doesnt work on 7.2 |
| 19:55.04 | trh | if linux wants to get to the "end user" market it should rewrite it |
| 19:55.04 | art3mis | and 8.378 doesnt suport the x300 anymore ;P |
| 19:55.13 | trh | *be written |
| 19:55.20 | art3mis | xorg is nice enugh is uppose |
| 19:55.25 | art3mis | i still like xfree though |
| 19:56.11 | art3mis | and i like xfce/gnome better than kde as a manager |
| 19:56.14 | trh | na.. not really.. |
| 19:56.20 | trh | xorg is basically the same |
| 19:56.29 | art3mis | minor difference really |
| 19:56.42 | art3mis | but still |
| 19:56.52 | art3mis | its not meant to be a windowed environment |
| 19:56.59 | art3mis | we're lucky someone made it at all ;) |
| 19:57.15 | trh | i don't really get why it's necessary to use execeutables for "screens", "window management", "hardware acceleration" etc. :) |
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| 19:57.31 | trh | ok.. it might be because they tend to crash |
| 19:57.34 | Kaydeethree | because it's not in the kernel |
| 19:57.38 | trh | and you can restart them easily then |
| 19:57.41 | trh | =) |
| 19:57.57 | Kaydeethree | there's a big thread going on in lkml about the graphics subsystem replacement they're working on |
| 19:58.29 | trh | Kaydeethree: i think those kernel mailing lists and democratic blabla stops any real development |
| 19:58.56 | Kaydeethree | except it's not democratic... linus can say no whenever he wants and it won't get patched in |
| 19:59.02 | art3mis | the best part about linux is the fact thers like 400 flavours and everyone seems to think they're gonna be the next redhat |
| 19:59.03 | trh | development only works in hierarchic structures |
| 19:59.08 | durcyn | in a perfect world we'd all be using BeOS anyway |
| 19:59.16 | art3mis | dur: tru dat |
| 19:59.29 | trh | Kaydeethree: yep.. if he doesn't find a middle-way, half of the developers fork it and start another project |
| 19:59.44 | trh | repeat that a hundred times |
| 19:59.52 | trh | and you got the current state of linux-software ;) |
| 19:59.58 | art3mis | thats actually why immore a daemon lover |
| 20:00.28 | Kaydeethree | I'm not. the less background crap I have running the better. I stand stuff like dbus because I have to |
| 20:00.31 | art3mis | the sad thing is that while bsd is superior(imo) its not as flashy so it gets slow love |
| 20:01.09 | Coruss | FreeBSD ftw |
| 20:01.12 | art3mis | i remember having to hack in my pccard 3com so it would work right |
| 20:01.20 | art3mis | that was horribly brutal |
| 20:02.18 | art3mis | if there wasnt forks we'd only have slackware redhat and debian |
| 20:02.23 | art3mis | i kind of miss those days |
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| 20:02.42 | Kemayo | Sorry for the actual topicality of this question... but there aren't any friend/guild libraries, right? |
| 20:02.53 | trh | Kemayo: there aren't |
| 20:02.58 | Kaydeethree | not afaik |
| 20:03.01 | trh | Kemayo: rollcall can do guild stuff |
| 20:03.11 | trh | Kemayo: asked a few days ago |
| 20:03.29 | Kaydeethree | meh. I haven't heard anything out of slack in a while... has debian updated recently? redhat (read: fedora) is still pushing out iterations fairly often |
| 20:03.44 | trh | Kaydeethree: yep.. debian 4 was the last big one |
| 20:03.54 | trh | Kaydeethree: it's moving in the ubuntu direction |
| 20:03.56 | art3mis | slack 12 came out a few months ago |
| 20:04.10 | art3mis | fedora is the most tolerable |
| 20:04.15 | art3mis | well next to suse |
| 20:04.36 | Esteth | is there a SavedVariablesPerServer setting, or do i have to implement that kind of behaviour myself? |
| 20:04.38 | art3mis | i really like opensuse |
| 20:04.39 | trh | i hate suse from back in the days when they used one big config file for everything in the system |
| 20:04.40 | ggilbert | slackware just did a release this month. |
| 20:04.42 | Kemayo | trh: okay, thanks. I vaguely recall that. :D |
| 20:04.52 | Kaydeethree | Esteth, no. it's global or per-character |
| 20:04.54 | art3mis | i dont know why though |
| 20:05.02 | trh | Esteth: yourself, there's a PerCharacter though |
| 20:05.12 | trh | Esteth: but you should just use AceDB with "realm" |
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| 20:05.25 | Kaydeethree | Esteth, that got brought up in wowi-lounge recently. something about how they don't want to encourage database mods |
| 20:05.53 | Kaydeethree | which is what SVPRealm would be used for, mostly |
| 20:05.59 | Esteth | ok, i'll take a look at AceDB then, only started lua/ace today, so i'm really unsure of what goes where :P |
| 20:06.04 | Kemayo | Heh. I look at the RollCall source, and it's extremely similar to what I'm already doing. (There really isn't much variation in what you can do with friend/guild listings, I guess.) |
| 20:06.10 | trh | Esteth: aceDB is delicious :) |
| 20:06.37 | art3mis | key: aside from location, guild, name, reason not really ;) |
| 20:06.47 | trh | Kemayo: true.. but a library alot simpler for only checking data of them and online status would be nice |
| 20:06.52 | art3mis | reason/notes |
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| 20:08.13 | loonacy | I'd like a guild mod that keeps track of alts, in like a tree format. |
| 20:08.26 | Esteth | loonacy: I've seen it before, a long time ago |
| 20:10.16 | vhaarr | Mec: okay, well let me know if you have any other questions not answered by the API page |
| 20:11.41 | Mec | vhaarr: sure thing, I think I've got it under control for now |
| 20:13.05 | Fisker- | all-out attacks on art3mis ! |
| 20:13.11 | Kemayo | Is "TheSocial-1.0" too silly for a library name, you think? |
| 20:14.00 | Droolio | a question about lua efficiency: i have a timer that goes up to 300 seconds and i convert and display it each second using something like new_time = format("%d", the_time/60).."m "..format("%02d", math.fmod(the_time, 60) ).."s" |
| 20:14.02 | deltron | rename it Zune-1.0 |
| 20:14.03 | deltron | :P |
| 20:14.07 | Droolio | is that very bad due to string concats? |
| 20:14.41 | Kemayo | deltron: Well, I wanted it to be sort of understandable to people who don't get the reference... |
| 20:14.42 | Fisker- | zune ftw |
| 20:14.51 | deltron | hehe |
| 20:15.01 | charon | Droolio: why not put it all into one format? no idea if it's more efficient but it would seem easier to read |
| 20:15.15 | Droolio | charon: how you mean? |
| 20:15.24 | charon | (i'm assuming format works like printf here) |
| 20:15.31 | Droolio | yea it does |
| 20:15.39 | Droolio | i'm just wondering about memory increasing rate etc. |
| 20:15.40 | charon | format("%dm %02ds", the_time/60, math.fmod(the_time, 60)) |
| 20:15.41 | deltron | Kemayo: what's the library going to do? |
| 20:16.08 | Droolio | since i only have 300 seconds' worth, i'm thinking it would be best to pre-fill a table and index it like a cache instead? |
| 20:16.14 | Kemayo | deltron: Friends list. Pretty much what RollCall does for the guild roster. |
| 20:16.54 | deltron | ooh a better friends list? |
| 20:17.26 | Kemayo | Just easier calls, less requirement to loop over things for the end-user. Oh, and better events. |
| 20:17.53 | Droolio | charon: i get ya now, goddam why didn't i see that to begin with |
| 20:18.00 | Kemayo | (It's all already written -- I'd just be ripping it out of AuldLangSyne and putting it in a lib.) |
| 20:18.12 | deltron | I really need to learn to write mods heh |
| 20:18.47 | charon | Droolio: :) ... however, i'm pretty new to this stuff too so i don't know a thing about efficiency. |
| 20:20.08 | Droolio | charon: hehe well it's blimmin' obvious now that i see it. this code wasn't originally written by me but i'm always lookin' to make it more efficienct |
| 20:20.13 | trh | Droolio: what about SecondsToTime(seconds)? |
| 20:20.58 | Droolio | hmm! |
| 20:22.37 | Droolio | trh: that's almost what i'd need but can't format it to be shorter :/ |
| 20:23.11 | Esteth | quick question: OnInitialize is called regardless of load-on-demand status after a ui refresh, and onEnable is called when the addon is loaded/enabled? |
| 20:24.50 | trh | Droolio: then you gotta build the string yourself =) |
| 20:25.05 | trh | Droolio: feel free to take a look at UIParent.lua to see how SecondsToTime builds it |
| 20:25.19 | Droolio | aye charons solution is good enough i think, much better than the string concats |
| 20:25.29 | Droolio | ok cheers will do that |
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| 20:30.12 | Mellow_ | does anybody experienced wow freezing if you have too many items in your mailbox(using bulkmail_inbox addon) |
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| 20:35.28 | Thrae | ~emulate rowne |
| 20:35.29 | purl | Variable names longer then one letter bloat filesize. |
| 20:35.40 | trh | lael |
| 20:36.07 | kenlyric | this is true. |
| 20:37.48 | Esteth | Is there a complete list of functions and events somewhere? It seems like the sort of think blizzard would provide, but i can't find it anywhere, and the one on WoWWiki seems to lacking an event for selecting an item in the auctionhouse interface, unless i'm looking for the wrong thing :S |
| 20:37.49 | charon | i take it you should also declare local variables that mask global ones wherever possible to save name space? |
| 20:37.51 | QQngsk | rowne for president |
| 20:38.51 | Kemayo | Esteth: http://www.wowwiki.com/API is as complete as you're going to get, I believe. |
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| 20:39.27 | trh | or UI.xsd :P |
| 20:39.41 | trh | if you're a masochist |
| 20:40.24 | Mec | wow debugging boss mods is just way too time intensive |
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| 20:43.03 | Maldivia | Mec: how are you debugging it ? |
| 20:43.06 | Fisker- | ~emulate Thrae |
| 20:43.07 | purl | I just learned how to divide by 0! Finally, I can get some action... |
| 20:43.31 | Mec | Maldivia: I'm sitting in mt hyjal watching jaina die ;p |
| 20:43.32 | Matrix110 | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 20:43.52 | Thrae | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 20:44.02 | Thrae | Fisker-: You messed with purl, eh? |
| 20:44.03 | Matrix110 | purl doesnt like me |
| 20:44.15 | Matrix110 | ~emulate Fisker |
| 20:44.16 | purl | less talking and more fisting please |
| 20:44.24 | Chompers | that's Fisker- |
| 20:44.27 | Chompers | 100% |
| 20:44.29 | vhaarr | Mec: Get Transcriptor and BigWigs_Debugger |
| 20:44.40 | vhaarr | and then start asking me questions |
| 20:44.47 | vhaarr | instead of trying to figure out everything yourself |
| 20:44.51 | Mec | vhaarr: I've got transcript, and I actually had to modify it a little so I can add new events within game |
| 20:44.55 | Maldivia | Mec: considered making an emulation addon, that captures all significant combat events, run it on a few encounters, then you have a scenario you can play back, when you're not raiding |
| 20:45.03 | vhaarr | Mec: you can't add new events |
| 20:45.23 | vhaarr | you can add ace2 events, but not wow events |
| 20:45.49 | Mec | vhaarr: I went in and added the ability to add wow events in game |
| 20:45.55 | Esteth | Kemayo: sorry for the delayed response, but thanks anyways. Looks like i'll take a gander at some other mod doing something similar |
| 20:46.14 | vhaarr | Mec: I'm not sure how you could do that, but I don't think I want to be a part of it |
| 20:46.39 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 20:46.40 | purl | i guess fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. Please take everything he says with a grain of salt. We think he's just here to try and get more CP. - END DISCLAIMER |
| 20:46.43 | Mec | vhaarr: it wasn't too bad, and it works pretty well |
| 20:47.10 | Chompers | he comes with a warning |
| 20:48.03 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 20:48.03 | purl | rumour has it, fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop"...We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
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| 20:49.19 | Bayi | hi |
| 20:49.30 | Mec | vhaarr: does BigWigs_Debugger let me playback a transcriptor scenario? |
| 20:49.38 | vhaarr | no |
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| 20:50.05 | JonathanDavis | Anyone know a mod like outfitter for wowace? |
| 20:50.16 | Esteth | closetgnome |
| 20:50.30 | Esteth | and the various closetgnome_* plugins |
| 20:50.33 | Srosh | It's the only gnome I know that's useful. |
| 20:50.40 | vhaarr | nonsense! |
| 20:50.58 | Esteth | well, i like to put them in cannons see how far i can fire them :P |
| 20:51.05 | trh | Srosh: what about dead ones? |
| 20:51.08 | vhaarr | buffprotectorgnome and spygnome are useful tools as well! |
| 20:51.24 | Srosh | trh, those gnomes are good, but they're not really useful. *gg* |
| 20:51.32 | trh | Srosh: ok... =) |
| 20:51.36 | NightHawkAtWork | they are for building walls of gnomes |
| 20:51.42 | NightHawkAtWork | the live ones tend to squirm too much |
| 20:51.45 | JonathanDavis | thankies :p |
| 20:51.52 | JonathanDavis | so there's still no wowace mod like neccb right ? |
| 20:51.54 | Srosh | :D |
| 20:52.19 | Bayi | Quartz, Chronometer ? |
| 20:52.31 | trh | they are partly lik enecb |
| 20:52.33 | trh | necb |
| 20:52.41 | trh | but miss some of the enemy castbar stuff ;) |
| 20:52.51 | Fisker- | I guess this is why they call you Thrae ROFL xD |
| 20:52.57 | JonathanDavis | lol |
| 20:53.04 | JonathanDavis | they ain't complete thou :/ |
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| 20:53.21 | Mec | success!! |
| 20:53.22 | Thrae | Fisker-: I don't get it? |
| 20:53.28 | Fisker- | <-obvious troll |
| 20:53.28 | Esteth | Quartz has an enemy castbar |
| 20:53.31 | NeoTron | So is Al'ar in fact immune to fire damage like wowhead says or is he not immune like a mage I know from another guild says? |
| 20:53.44 | Bayi | does anybody knows how can i set a FontString to fixed width and let the text in it wrap, increasing its height only ? |
| 20:53.51 | Mec | well since I respec every week for it I really hope he's immune |
| 20:53.54 | JonathanDavis | sorry for so many questions :p just wanna remove all non-wow ace mods hehe |
| 20:53.56 | durcyn | alar is in fact immune to fire damage, we have all our mages go respec for him every week |
| 20:54.06 | JonathanDavis | is there a super-inspect mod in wowace? |
| 20:54.23 | durcyn | voyeur, but it's more along the lines of goodinspect |
| 20:54.38 | JonathanDavis | ah |
| 20:54.42 | JonathanDavis | does it have the color borders? |
| 20:54.57 | JonathanDavis | if u know all his equips are purple it would show ? etc. |
| 20:55.14 | Mec | JonathanDavis: You might want to check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace_Alternatives_to_Common_Addons |
| 20:55.44 | NM|Xinhuan | Bayi: you clamp the topleft/topright anchors to something and it should behave the way you want it (i think) |
| 20:55.54 | NM|Xinhuan | setpoint() that is |
| 20:56.04 | JonathanDavis | Thanks Mec. |
| 20:56.08 | Bayi | yea but i cant get the text wrapped |
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| 20:56.32 | NM|Xinhuan | maybe you should use a messageframe instead? |
| 20:56.34 | fireglow | can anyone recommend a addon which shows mem usage of all the loaded addons |
| 20:56.47 | trh | fireglow: performancefu |
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| 20:56.53 | Bayi | im reusing the FontString's from the QuestWatchFrame |
| 20:56.58 | NM|Xinhuan | can't remember if fontstrings have a wrapping attribute |
| 20:57.02 | fireglow | trh: ok, will try that |
| 20:57.21 | Bayi | i didnt found anything, except a wrap strings without spaces or something similar |
| 20:57.40 | NeoTron | so to people kill the phoenix adds on al'ar or just tank them? It seems in the videos I've seen that some people just OT them all |
| 20:58.01 | trh | NeoTron: phase1: let the melees kill them, phase 2 all kill them |
| 20:58.03 | Bayi | that: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_SetNonSpaceWrap |
| 20:58.06 | NM|Xinhuan | bayi: try http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_SetNonSpaceWrap |
| 20:58.14 | NeoTron | trh: that's pretty much what I figured |
| 20:58.27 | NeoTron | since killing them hurts al'ar it seems dumb not to kill them |
| 20:58.31 | trh | NeoTron: every killed add in phase2 = 2% damage on phoenix |
| 20:58.56 | Bayi | NM|Xinhuan: :) |
| 20:59.04 | Bayi | that is whats not working... |
| 20:59.35 | NM|Xinhuan | Bayi: also read this http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_FontString |
| 21:00.08 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44013 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Make color changes actually take effect without the user having to reload his UI. Module still needs some cleanup wrt paintchips usage, should be able to simplify the whole operation. |
| 21:00.10 | NM|Xinhuan | i rememeber its something to do with clamping down the anchor points + turning on wrapping |
| 21:00.20 | Bayi | NM|Xinhuan: hmm thnx |
| 21:03.07 | JonathanDavis | Anyone tried the mod called examiner ? lol |
| 21:03.37 | Keias | I use Examiner |
| 21:03.55 | JonathanDavis | oh |
| 21:04.08 | JonathanDavis | is there a way to few equipments without pressing shift+click ? |
| 21:04.20 | JonathanDavis | eq compare and all other mods needs to press shift+click lol |
| 21:04.38 | NM|Xinhuan | few? |
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| 21:08.12 | jme | anyone know the resilience rings offhand? |
| 21:08.16 | Hjalte | Damn. I was wondering if my connection was suddenly really bad, because when i pressed multiple things on my actionbar, i had to press multiple times for some things to go off. It seems my action bar had somehow turned off showing the global cooldown >.< |
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| 21:08.28 | jme | or if there are any, i forget |
| 21:09.46 | NightHawkAtWork | jme: l2wowhead. http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-2&filter=cr=79;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 21:10.23 | JonathanDavis | :P any rogues here ? plannin to make a rogue alt :) |
| 21:11.23 | jme | NightHawkAtWork: :P heh |
| 21:11.24 | deltron | got one, but it's not my main |
| 21:11.48 | jme | NightHawkAtWork: i forgot about the search filter :( |
| 21:11.50 | Coruss | I have one, used to be my main |
| 21:12.00 | JonathanDavis | hmm |
| 21:12.07 | JonathanDavis | u know any good rogue mods for it ? prefer wowace :p |
| 21:12.09 | Coruss | what you wanna know? |
| 21:12.14 | JonathanDavis | mods! lol |
| 21:12.23 | JonathanDavis | i got a 70 mage.. getin really bored of it |
| 21:12.36 | Coruss | lol, get some form of energy watch, basically a tick bar that shows when your energy is going to tick up again |
| 21:12.40 | jme | reroll |
| 21:12.46 | JonathanDavis | lol |
| 21:12.48 | deltron | I just use autobar to apply poisons, and watch my combo points and energy with pitbull |
| 21:12.51 | Coruss | and a class timer addon so you can get the stun lock down |
| 21:13.01 | jme | i'm either going to reroll shadow priest or start playin vanguard, whichever proves to be more fun |
| 21:13.07 | JonathanDavis | lol |
| 21:13.08 | deltron | jme: shadow priest |
| 21:13.09 | JonathanDavis | vanguard sucks |
| 21:13.10 | JonathanDavis | :P |
| 21:13.11 | deltron | trust me |
| 21:13.17 | JonathanDavis | tried vanguard |
| 21:13.18 | Coruss | vanguard? |
| 21:13.19 | JonathanDavis | awful |
| 21:13.22 | jme | deltron: i just bought vanguard too =( |
| 21:13.23 | Esteth | I beleive pitbul has energy-tick watching built in, as well as FSR watching built in |
| 21:13.23 | deltron | it's HORRIBLE |
| 21:13.27 | deltron | return it |
| 21:13.28 | deltron | seriously |
| 21:13.31 | jme | can't, online download |
| 21:13.32 | deltron | if you can |
| 21:13.32 | jme | mwahaha |
| 21:13.33 | deltron | doh! |
| 21:13.33 | jme | <- nub |
| 21:13.54 | jme | so.. survey says stick with wow beyond all doubts? |
| 21:13.57 | JonathanDavis | its the same people that said Guild Wars = Wow killer |
| 21:14.04 | JonathanDavis | and guild wars got owned :/ |
| 21:14.04 | deltron | yes |
| 21:14.06 | JonathanDavis | lol |
| 21:14.15 | jme | ok |
| 21:14.18 | Coruss | Guild wars stunk tho, not because it was a bad game, the 100% instancing got annoying, but the devs broke it |
| 21:14.18 | Chompers | Hjalte: try /cc hide_animation off |
| 21:14.24 | Chompers | that'll fix your GCD now showing |
| 21:14.24 | CIA-22 | 03zevzabich * r44014 10QuestLongList/ (10 files in 3 dirs): QuestLongList: Initial import |
| 21:14.30 | deltron | lotro was fun, but not much as far as end-game goes :P |
| 21:14.31 | Coruss | they destroyed the economy |
| 21:14.32 | JonathanDavis | Then Darkfall got owned, then Vanguard got owned, then Lord of the rings online got owned. |
| 21:14.38 | jme | i was just getting really bored with wow and my hunter, watching the huntology videos gave me the pvp bug again |
| 21:14.44 | kergoth | JonathanDavis, poisoner+fubar_poisonreminderfu or weaponrebuff, hemlock or atropoine for poison creation, and an energy tick, the built in one in pitbull is better than nothing, but i prefer kenergy (shocking, eh?).. and Cutup has some nice rogue moduels, more obvious timer bars for the poison applied and S&D |
| 21:14.58 | Coruss | WoW ftw |
| 21:14.59 | kergoth | acnt tyep today |
| 21:15.01 | kergoth | CANT TYPE |
| 21:15.04 | deltron | bbl, going home |
| 21:15.05 | jme | ROLY? |
| 21:15.05 | Coruss | if you ever get bored in WoW, just reroll |
| 21:15.13 | JonathanDavis | hey Coruss can u read private ? plz =x |
| 21:15.24 | Coruss | not getting a private |
| 21:15.34 | Hjalte | Chompers, it was Cycircled hiding the animation, but for now, I just turned it off. |
| 21:15.36 | JonathanDavis | Next so called wow killer is Warhammer.. |
| 21:15.39 | Coruss | JonathanDavis: you have to be reg'd with nickserv to be able to send private messages |
| 21:15.40 | NightHawkAtWork | you need to register with nickserv to send msgs |
| 21:15.43 | jme | JonathanDavis: register your nick |
| 21:15.55 | JonathanDavis | Oh... |
| 21:15.56 | JonathanDavis | kk |
| 21:16.54 | CIA-22 | 03zevzabich * r44015 10QuestLongList/libs/: QuestLongList: Adding Externals |
| 21:17.01 | jme | probably way out there, but has there been any speculation on the ETA for the next xpac yet? |
| 21:17.17 | JonathanDavis | jan 16 2008 =p |
| 21:17.24 | Bayi | :) |
| 21:17.28 | Hjalte | Is there anything addons can do about tab-targetting? |
| 21:17.30 | jme | ... oh |
| 21:20.33 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 21:20.37 | Fisker- | steam is taking over teh world! |
| 21:20.48 | [dRaCo] | Hjalte: basically anything you want, just bind tab to whatever you want it to do |
| 21:20.51 | Fisker- | do want |
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| 21:23.47 | Chompers | steam power? |
| 21:24.25 | NightHawkAtWork | steampunk? |
| 21:24.58 | jme | steamboat? |
| 21:26.05 | Fisker- | nooooo u |
| 21:26.34 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r44016 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 21:26.34 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 21:26.34 | CIA-22 | - More quest items |
| 21:26.49 | NightHawkAtWork | clockers! http://www.xorph.com/clockers/ |
| 21:27.23 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r44017 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0-Consumable/PeriodicTable-3.0-Consumable.lua: |
| 21:27.23 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 21:27.23 | CIA-22 | - More quest items |
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| 21:27.43 | Fisker- | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/330716757.htm |
| 21:27.44 | Fisker- | owned |
| 21:28.17 | Raeli | lo ppl. i have a problem with omen and recont: if u have both addons activated, omen doesnt show my threat. |
| 21:28.53 | durcyn | raeli: one of them has an old lib. fix it. |
| 21:29.07 | Raeli | k. thx. will try that. |
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| 21:32.33 | Raeli | durcyn: installing a new version of recount solved it. thx for the advice. |
| 21:32.40 | Raeli | cu. bb. |
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| 21:34.33 | Azurewrath | bah... Al'ar down and i forgot the Quest item.. |
| 21:36.26 | durcyn | i miss running around TK as an ashtongue |
| 21:37.59 | binder | should I still be running omnicc with bartender? |
| 21:40.49 | Punkie` | why not binder? |
| 21:41.14 | jme | i use cooldowncount |
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| 21:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | jme you shouldn't be using cooldowncount |
| 21:42.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it taints stuff it shouldn't taint |
| 21:42.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 21:42.51 | jme | oh? |
| 21:43.10 | jme | what should i be using then? =o |
| 21:43.20 | Bayi | im using it too .Oo |
| 21:44.23 | durcyn | omnicc is fine |
| 21:44.39 | durcyn | you wowaceupdater whores need to stop using shit just because it's in that stupid updater list |
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| 21:55.53 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44018 10Links/Links.lua: Links: bugfix |
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| 21:56.40 | zac | ckknight: on line 2640 in CombatEvents.lua for Parrot, changing it to TriggerCombatEvent makes leeches work properly |
| 22:02.25 | abyssichate | Did background colouring break in yesterday's Cowtip revision? |
| 22:03.16 | sag_ich_nicht | hahahahahaha |
| 22:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | who wants a harrickroll? :P |
| 22:03.54 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r44019 10Decursive/ (6 files): |
| 22:03.54 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 22:03.54 | CIA-22 | - Added support for Druid's Cyclone Spell on friendly mind-controlled players. |
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| 22:04.26 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r44020 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFu.lua: FuBar_VolumeFu: fixed a bug where VolumeFu would forget the master volume level, if you click on the master volume text while it's muted. |
| 22:04.50 | BankZ | Is there an addon that makes all of blizzards windows moveable? |
| 22:04.58 | dodgizzla | How can I make the CowTip border look like the TinyTip smooth border? |
| 22:07.06 | [dRaCo] | BankZ: yeah, not on wowace, though |
| 22:07.10 | [dRaCo] | might wanna check wowi |
| 22:08.26 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44021 10TheSocial-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): TheSocial-1.0: Initial import. Library for friends list. |
| 22:08.48 | BankZ | [dRaCo]: any recommendations |
| 22:09.01 | BankZ | just got doublewide and lighthead |
| 22:09.06 | BankZ | seem like they are cool |
| 22:09.54 | [dRaCo] | just scrolling through the list... gimme a moment |
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| 22:10.46 | [dRaCo] | too easy... the one I had in mind is called "move frames" |
| 22:10.51 | NeoTron | so I'm using cooldowncount as well.. doesn't seem to cause any problems? |
| 22:10.57 | [dRaCo] | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6564 |
| 22:11.02 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44022 10TheSocial-1.0/ (. TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0.lua): |
| 22:11.02 | CIA-22 | TheSocial-1.0: |
| 22:11.02 | CIA-22 | -Set keywords. |
| 22:11.16 | [dRaCo] | NeoTron: afaik it only taints if you try to hide blizz' animation |
| 22:11.52 | NeoTron | ah that animation is annoying.. |
| 22:12.02 | BankZ | ill give it a try |
| 22:12.06 | BankZ | thanks |
| 22:12.32 | BankZ | does wowinterface.com email you when an addon is updated? |
| 22:13.00 | [dRaCo] | maybe it was moveFrames, though... |
| 22:13.12 | [dRaCo] | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6983-moveFrames.html |
| 22:13.32 | BankZ | ill try both |
| 22:13.34 | BankZ | thanks |
| 22:13.35 | Kemayo | BankZ: If you favorite it, yes. |
| 22:13.38 | [dRaCo] | bankz: there used to be a feature like that |
| 22:13.45 | BankZ | cool |
| 22:13.55 | BankZ | seems like wowinterface is the new fav |
| 22:14.01 | BankZ | I used to use cursed |
| 22:15.47 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r44023 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:15.47 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 22:15.47 | CIA-22 | - Kaelthas: frFR Update |
| 22:15.47 | CIA-22 | - Knock Back: Correct translation is "Repousser au loin" (tested today) |
| 22:16.05 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 07Kemayo * r44024 10AuldLangSyne/ (. AuldLangSyne.toc Fu/Fu.lua Info/Info.lua embeds.xml lib/): AuldLangSyne: Branch for TheSocial-1.0 + RollCall-1.0. |
| 22:17.40 | art3mis | man you guys sure likeyour taints |
| 22:17.56 | dodgizzla | Is it possible that DogTag shows something only when shift/ctrl/alt is held down? |
| 22:18.40 | sb | hmes |
| 22:18.41 | sb | hmyes |
| 22:19.34 | dodgizzla | Speak with fast tongues! |
| 22:19.37 | dodgizzla | :D |
| 22:20.45 | Killmore7 | haha Repousser au loin |
| 22:22.05 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 22:22.11 | Fisker- | wanna be serial killers? |
| 22:23.25 | art3mis | cereal killers |
| 22:23.30 | art3mis | surreal killers |
| 22:24.04 | Fisker- | I'M SUPER CEREAL |
| 22:24.08 | Fisker- | also |
| 22:24.09 | Fisker- | MANBEARPIG |
| 22:24.17 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r44025 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: frFR Update |
| 22:26.06 | Xuerian | Kaelten: Bug! In the paged new thing for wow, the I am murloc! one has "var FO = { ..." after the description |
| 22:26.14 | Xuerian | paged news thing* |
| 22:28.35 | trh | dang.. those piccolo tomatoes are so great... they taste so sweet.. yummy |
| 22:28.47 | trh | ... now i want another sandwich with them... :( |
| 22:32.39 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r44026 10Omen/localization_frFR.lua: Omen: frFR Update |
| 22:33.01 | Fisker- | CP -fR /source /destination to get CP right? |
| 22:33.05 | Fisker- | err copy of course |
| 22:33.09 | Fisker- | *sinister thoughts* |
| 22:33.18 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 22:33.18 | purl | fisker- is, like, DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 22:33.38 | durcyn | it's actually rm -rf /source /destination |
| 22:33.43 | trh | cp? |
| 22:33.50 | Thrae | ~cp |
| 22:33.51 | purl | from memory, cp is Copies one or more files to another file or directory. Syntax: cp (file1) (file2) ...(fileN) (destination). Where file1 through fileN are the files to copy, and destination is the destination file or directory. Example: cp ../frog joe copies the file ../frog to the file or directory joe. |
| 22:33.59 | Fisker- | oh HAHA durcyn |
| 22:34.04 | Fisker- | just delete all my warez |
| 22:34.06 | Fisker- | not like it matters |
| 22:34.12 | Fisker- | i can download it in 1 minute anyways |
| 22:34.29 | trh | it rocks if you want to type like rm *~ but type rm * ~ |
| 22:34.29 | trh | :( |
| 22:34.53 | Fisker- | then what? |
| 22:35.01 | trh | Fisker-: rm * + rm ~ |
| 22:35.16 | trh | Fisker-: very very bad if rm -Rf :( |
| 22:35.27 | Fisker- | ah |
| 22:35.31 | trh | killed once my whole /etc with that |
| 22:35.32 | Fisker- | rm *~ = what then? |
| 22:35.42 | trh | Fisker-: kill all files that end with ~ |
| 22:35.47 | Fisker- | ah |
| 22:35.48 | trh | (usually backup files from editors) |
| 22:36.10 | RaydenUni | does Mental Agility affect all priest instant cast spells? including shadow? |
| 22:38.09 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r44027 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: |
| 22:38.10 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 22:38.10 | CIA-22 | _ fix so that the player's pet appears in the group pet frames. |
| 22:38.10 | CIA-22 | _ fix the calculation of the group frames. |
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| 22:39.56 | ckknight | sb: oh yea, [Name] no longer works for HoTs, since it's throttled |
| 22:44.00 | Thrae | 18:47 [Wowirc] < xalis:#maelstrom> I said in gchat: "If /quit and /gquit are sitting on a fence, and /quit falls off what's left?" |
| 22:44.03 | Thrae | 18:47 [Wowirc] < xalis:#maelstrom> and like five members left the guild |
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| 22:44.55 | Fisker- | That joke actually got quite tolerable at a point |
| 22:45.06 | Fisker- | People were like "lol then you will just disconnect me"(When it was on irc) |
| 22:45.16 | Fisker- | Then i wrote /quit like this: |
| 22:45.19 | Fisker- | /quit |
| 22:45.28 | Fisker- | ctrl+enter makes it write it without parsing it as a command |
| 22:45.34 | Fisker- | and that was enough to make them try |
| 22:45.35 | Fisker- | :D |
| 22:45.52 | Fisker- | lulz ensued or else |
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| 22:47.27 | Fisker- | oh hi googlesvnbot |
| 22:47.30 | Fisker- | and bai |
| 22:47.31 | zac | ckknight: (if you didn't see earlier) on line 2640 in CombatEvents.lua for Parrot, changing it to TriggerCombatEvent, and swapping the last two args, makes leeches work properly |
| 22:48.09 | Fisker- | OH MY GOD |
| 22:48.23 | Kemayo | Yes, my child? |
| 22:48.25 | Fisker- | I was .tar'ing up a file and put it in the same dir as i was tar'ing |
| 22:48.35 | Fisker- | How can linux be that stupid?! |
| 22:48.47 | Fisker- | It proceeded to add itself to itself |
| 22:48.54 | Fisker- | great idea etc. |
| 22:48.59 | NM|Xinhuan | hahahahah |
| 22:49.21 | Thrae | Did you guys know that for IRC clients, if you use SHIFT+ENTER after typing anything, like even just /quit, it won't actually make you quit from IRC? So you can fool people by saying like "Hey, did you know you can type in /quit and use ALT+ENTER to fool people into quitting from IRC?" |
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| 22:49.57 | abyssichate | old |
| 22:51.58 | Uhuru | is this normal that violation gives stats very differents than sw stats ? |
| 22:52.06 | NM|Xinhuan | its also equally easy to use a ctrl code that doesn't achieve anything before /quit |
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| 22:52.18 | Uhuru | dps stats seems to be wrong |
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| 22:52.56 | NM|Xinhuan | don't think you can find that out without comparing the exact spell details used |
| 22:53.21 | Fisker- | i'm gonna play russian roulette with a glock ffs |
| 22:53.21 | NM|Xinhuan | like how much damage done by X was fireballs, how much was scorch, how much was ignite, etc |
| 22:53.34 | Fisker- | just forgot to remove the archive it had made |
| 22:53.37 | Fisker- | so now i packed it again |
| 22:54.00 | [dRaCo] | Fisker-: great, remember to turn on your webcam. |
| 22:54.07 | Fisker- | oh yes |
| 22:54.15 | Fisker- | and put it on digg or something |
| 22:54.31 | Fisker- | then the media can have a field trip on how games made me do it |
| 22:54.36 | Fisker- | (infact it was linux) |
| 22:54.56 | [dRaCo] | they'll find some games. |
| 22:55.03 | Fisker- | Linux THE GAME |
| 22:55.03 | [dRaCo] | maybe tetris or something |
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| 22:55.09 | [dRaCo] | hacker os! |
| 22:55.16 | Fisker- | shoot your way through kernel panics and segfaults |
| 22:56.17 | NeoTron | trh: with zsh, rm * will simply ask me if I'm sure I want to delete all files in the directory. quite handy |
| 22:56.47 | Bayi | an alias to rm -i ? :) |
| 22:56.51 | buu | Wuss. |
| 22:56.54 | trh | NeoTron: even with -f? |
| 22:57.11 | buu | rm pron/ * |
| 22:57.16 | Fisker- | I remember almost getting detention for raping a teachers "unfunny joke" |
| 22:57.44 | NeoTron | trh: yes, Bayi: no |
| 22:57.44 | Fisker- | something like ssh sextoy.cum(haha very funny) |
| 22:57.49 | Fisker- | login as root |
| 22:57.59 | Fisker- | and then remove some /dev/obscure-xxx-shit |
| 22:58.10 | Fisker- | I change it to sun.com and rm -rf / |
| 22:58.39 | Fisker- | (He likes sun hardware and software) |
| 22:58.47 | Fisker- | Had some crappy solaris cluster than ran like hell |
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| 22:59.05 | Fisker- | He does not like his beliefs to be challenged like many zealots :( |
| 22:59.47 | [dRaCo] | that's what makes 'em zealots |
| 23:00.23 | Bayi | k that wasnt cool :) |
| 23:00.33 | Bayi | i tried to type an old IRC joke.. |
| 23:00.48 | Xuerian | I had my first argument with a zealot a couple days ago |
| 23:01.10 | Xuerian | A treehugger ultra-vegan (including honey... you know, bees in slavery and all that), chick o_0 |
| 23:01.20 | [dRaCo] | yay. |
| 23:01.25 | Xuerian | It was scary >.> |
| 23:01.54 | NeoTron | zsh options, look for RM_STAR_SILENT |
| 23:02.12 | [dRaCo] | I wonder how those guys survive |
| 23:02.31 | trh | draco: they truly belief in the crap they are zealoting about |
| 23:02.41 | Xuerian | And that makes it even more scary |
| 23:02.47 | [dRaCo] | I know they do... |
| 23:02.52 | Xuerian | Funny... |
| 23:02.53 | Xuerian | but scary. |
| 23:03.13 | [dRaCo] | but I couldnt survive eating just foul fruit n stuff |
| 23:03.43 | trh | i like those zealots crying about radiation and electro-magnetic radiation and stuff to only get their cellular out of their pocket the next minute :) |
| 23:04.41 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8 <-next time someone forgets to lock their computer i will put their startpage to this :P |
| 23:05.09 | [dRaCo] | wtf |
| 23:05.16 | Lyfe | did you ask her what she thought about tree farms? |
| 23:05.23 | Bayi | Fisker-: ouch |
| 23:05.43 | Lyfe | or. perhaps about greenhouse facilities that grow herbs, or corn production, or whatnot? :) |
| 23:05.50 | Fisker- | i had one reinstall Windows to reset his startpage :P |
| 23:05.58 | Fisker- | I locked it through policies |
| 23:06.04 | Fisker- | and he didn't know how to change it |
| 23:06.10 | trh | Fisker-: bofh reborn? :P |
| 23:06.29 | Fisker- | Nah i just teach security :P |
| 23:06.44 | Fisker- | If your workstation is unlocked while you're not at the workstation you're gonna get raped |
| 23:06.53 | Bayi | :) |
| 23:07.01 | [dRaCo] | use that old desktop screenshot thingy |
| 23:07.04 | trh | evil.. very evil |
| 23:07.12 | [dRaCo] | just too funny and totally working. |
| 23:07.34 | Fisker- | There was some time where i put spaces on the logins |
| 23:07.46 | Fisker- | So they logged in as "User " |
| 23:07.46 | Fisker- | :P |
| 23:08.09 | Fisker- | also stuff that could take them like 5-10 minutes of figuring out and then just trying to restart the computer |
| 23:08.12 | Bayi | set the windows boot image to "Now u can safely turn off ur computer" screen and watch the noob how he is reboot his PC everytime windows starts (this onl worked back in Win95/98) :) |
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| 23:08.33 | pakoz | wau doesnt seem to be working for me |
| 23:08.34 | pakoz | in IE7 |
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| 23:09.02 | Bayi | im using the binary version from sourceforge |
| 23:09.08 | Bayi | maybe try that |
| 23:09.10 | [dRaCo] | pakoz: u might wanna check #wau |
| 23:10.21 | Lyfe | why does the armory website suck? |
| 23:10.44 | [dRaCo] | 'cos it was coded by trained monkey. |
| 23:10.52 | [dRaCo] | at least that's the common belief. |
| 23:10.57 | |Pixel| | well |
| 23:11.04 | |Pixel| | I've meet the so-called monkeys |
| 23:11.09 | |Pixel| | at least, they don't eat bananas |
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| 23:13.12 | [dRaCo] | wasn't meant to insult anybody... |
| 23:13.34 | [dRaCo] | it uses too much ajax, if u ask me :> |
| 23:15.35 | |Pixel| | well |
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| 23:15.56 | |Pixel| | the guy who coded it is completely nuts, that's it |
| 23:16.20 | |Pixel| | and his office is full of "web2.0" books |
| 23:16.22 | Coruss | I pray to god this is faked. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sw0TNfIsgMI&NR=1 |
| 23:16.52 | trh | Coruss: it is |
| 23:16.53 | |Pixel| | this is a fake :) |
| 23:16.58 | |Pixel| | and this is Unreal Tournament |
| 23:17.03 | |Pixel| | not wow |
| 23:17.11 | [dRaCo] | yeah, the subtitles are wrong |
| 23:17.19 | Coruss | aah |
| 23:17.30 | trh | and the anger is faked too |
| 23:17.46 | |Pixel| | yeah |
| 23:17.58 | Fisker- | germans even faked WW2 |
| 23:18.01 | Fisker- | ohw ait |
| 23:18.04 | Coruss | heh |
| 23:18.04 | Fisker- | inappropiate |
| 23:18.04 | Fisker- | :P |
| 23:18.19 | Fisker- | "Jews did WWII" |
| 23:18.34 | Fisker- | atleast that was what the germans said :/ |
| 23:19.08 | art3mis | shall i save you a spot by the fire? |
| 23:19.21 | Fisker- | i know |
| 23:19.26 | Fisker- | i'll be a firefighter |
| 23:19.28 | Fisker- | IN HELL |
| 23:19.36 | art3mis | its okay ive already got myhandbasket made |
| 23:19.39 | art3mis | custom job |
| 23:19.55 | art3mis | its a cadillac eldorado, hell on wheels baby! |
| 23:20.59 | art3mis | that wont stop it |
| 23:21.07 | art3mis | do you not know your american car history? |
| 23:21.13 | Fisker- | no |
| 23:21.38 | art3mis | nothing short of nuclear holocaust can stop an eldorado |
| 23:22.00 | art3mis | and now you know |
| 23:22.05 | art3mis | cuz knowledge is power! |
| 23:22.13 | Fisker- | well i had heavy water |
| 23:22.23 | Fisker- | and for some reason there were Uran-235 |
| 23:22.26 | Fisker- | in your car |
| 23:22.33 | art3mis | that only feeds its power! |
| 23:22.36 | Fisker- | and then suddenly DIRTY BOMBS EVERYWHERE |
| 23:23.18 | art3mis | better than f-bombs! |
| 23:23.29 | art3mis | if tv religious figures have taught me anything |
| 23:25.39 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44028 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Aura.lua Modules/Dispel.lua): |
| 23:25.39 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 23:25.39 | CIA-22 | - Added aura tracking |
| 23:27.23 | blay | is there a fubar plugin for monitoring rep? |
| 23:27.40 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44029 10Assessment/Modules/Dispel.lua: |
| 23:27.40 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 23:27.40 | CIA-22 | - Re-Added check against unknown sourceName |
| 23:27.49 | sb | blay: FactionsFu |
| 23:27.57 | blay | ty sb |
| 23:27.59 | Coruss | here's a novel idea, how about an addon that does respawn timer tracking |
| 23:28.23 | Antiarc | Incubator does that |
| 23:28.29 | Coruss | i.e. in attumen wing of kara it's something like 25min respawn, and you have to pull the boss before the spawns start |
| 23:28.35 | Coruss | oh? |
| 23:30.27 | Chompers | attumen 'wing' ? |
| 23:30.29 | Chompers | :O |
| 23:30.34 | Coruss | :P area, whatever |
| 23:30.38 | Coruss | couldn't think of a better word |
| 23:31.01 | Jokie | NECB helps track that as well |
| 23:31.45 | Kaydeethree | <3 NECB's respawn timers |
| 23:32.00 | Xuerian | Kaydeethree: Different from quartz? |
| 23:32.03 | Xuerian | Ahhh |
| 23:32.04 | Chompers | incubator does that |
| 23:32.08 | Xuerian | jumping into the middle of chat ftw |
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| 23:32.22 | Chompers | we've found incubators timers to be slightly more accurate |
| 23:32.24 | Kaydeethree | I only use necb for that. it'd take a lot to get me to move away from it |
| 23:32.39 | Kaydeethree | meh, I know enough code to update it if the timers are off |
| 23:32.45 | Lysithea | Is it possible, in Aloft, to make the healthbar/frame a certain color for just Windfury totem? |
| 23:32.57 | Kaydeethree | it's only by a few minutes or so if it is ever off |
| 23:33.28 | Lysithea | I know I can make totems diffrent colors, but a single totem like windfury? |
| 23:34.03 | Jokie | Is there anything else Incubator provides? I'm in the same boat as kaydee in that I find myself only using NECB for the respawn timers |
| 23:34.40 | Xuerian | The name seems to indicate it's for respawns |
| 23:35.05 | Jokie | cool.. gonna have to try that out tonight as well |
| 23:35.08 | Jokie | thanks for the tip |
| 23:35.28 | Xuerian | Like I said, seems to indicate, I don't know <.< |
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| 23:36.19 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:36.21 | ckknight | back from work |
| 23:36.23 | ckknight | thanks, zac |
| 23:36.30 | Xuerian | wb, ck. |
| 23:36.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44030 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - bugfix for leeches. |
| 23:36.41 | ckknight | done work for today |
| 23:36.50 | zac | np, was driving me crazy :) |
| 23:37.16 | zac | oh, you gotta swap the last 2 args too |
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| 23:37.37 | zac | your CIA should link to the trac page :) |
| 23:38.27 | abyssichate | ckknight: did background colouring break in yesterday's Cowtip revision? |
| 23:38.38 | ckknight | no |
| 23:38.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44031 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - fix arguments to TriggerCombatEvent |
| 23:38.53 | abyssichate | everyone is coloured as "other" for me now |
| 23:39.24 | ckknight | oh shoot |
| 23:39.26 | ckknight | I know the issue |
| 23:39.44 | sb | wb ckknight |
| 23:40.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44032 10CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip_Appearance - fix checking of :GetUnit existence. |
| 23:40.39 | abyssichate | thanks |
| 23:41.20 | Pkekyo | gotta love people that have it set in their mind that warriors should do nothing but prot...ever... |
| 23:42.08 | ckknight | what about people who think pallies should do nothing but holy? |
| 23:42.10 | Jokie | pallies are only allowed to heal |
| 23:42.12 | Jokie | hehe |
| 23:42.14 | ckknight | or priests nothing but shadow? |
| 23:42.28 | Knaledge | paladins can.. hit things? |
| 23:42.32 | Coruss | :p I happen to pally tank quite nicely |
| 23:42.33 | Knaledge | screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 23:42.53 | Coruss | was in slave pens last night, arms warrior doin dps, my prot pally tanking |
| 23:42.55 | Coruss | was good times |
| 23:42.57 | Antiarc | Mostly because holy paladins are damned amazing |
| 23:43.08 | Antiarc | Whereas tank paladins are just tanks and ret paladins are sorta lol |
| 23:43.11 | abyssichate | I doubt a paladin could tank hyjal/BT |
| 23:43.31 | Chompers | pally dps doesn't work |
| 23:43.33 | Pkekyo | I just tore some randomass shammy a new one in tradechat for trashtalking me for not being prot specced :> |
| 23:43.34 | Coruss | it's been done, BT at least |
| 23:43.39 | Chompers | the threat to dps ratio is screwed up |
| 23:43.40 | Knaledge | is there a way to make automaton ignore inn keepers? |
| 23:44.01 | Pkekyo | "warriors should all be deep prot and do nothing but tank - ever! and those who don't should l2p their class" >.< |
| 23:44.01 | Knaledge | I have the option for "skip gossip" turned on but unfortunately, it does this for inn keepers |
| 23:44.10 | Coruss | Chompers: the reason for the threat ratio is because pally tanks need the inherent 1.0 modifier to be able to tank |
| 23:44.14 | Kaydeethree | I just hit shift when clicking on an innkeeper |
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| 23:44.30 | Coruss | Chompers: if they were to modify the inherent threat ratio, it'd break pally tanking |
| 23:44.46 | weab | Knaledge: hold down shift when you right click |
| 23:44.59 | Chompers | yup Coruss |
| 23:45.01 | Coruss | Chompers: and the argument blizz will make every time is to put salv up >< |
| 23:45.06 | Knaledge | ah ok. and if I have shift hot-keyed to something else? |
| 23:45.10 | Chompers | the ret tree needs to be looked at |
| 23:45.15 | Coruss | it is being looked at |
| 23:45.25 | Coruss | was confirmed in EU forums |
| 23:45.29 | weab | shift is a modifier key, what would you hotkey it to? |
| 23:45.39 | Knaledge | atlas |
| 23:46.14 | Knaledge | rather on the PTR you can specify on a Mac which ones now |
| 23:46.25 | Knaledge | left alt, left ctrl, left shift |
| 23:46.26 | Knaledge | etc. |
| 23:46.28 | Coruss | Chompers: http://cromfel.battlefield.fi/ first link |
| 23:46.33 | Coruss | *first article |
| 23:46.35 | weab | well then you're weird and i don't bother supporting you |
| 23:46.42 | weab | :P |
| 23:46.54 | Pkekyo | only thing wrong with warriors that I can see right now: enrage should NOT be a prereq for flurry... |
| 23:46.54 | Pkekyo | wouldn't hurt of they made Bloodrage a dot either :> |
| 23:46.55 | Knaledge | thanks.. |
| 23:47.34 | Chompers | i remember seeing that post Coruss |
| 23:47.42 | Chompers | but when will it happen? |
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| 23:48.22 | weab | Knaledge: mention it on the forum post and i might at some point put something in there to allow you to change to a different modifier key. |
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| 23:48.31 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, ping |
| 23:48.45 | ckknight | pong |
| 23:49.00 | Knaledge | might I suggest in the same post addin a sub-option to "Skip Gossip" that says something like "Ignore Innkeepers" ? |
| 23:49.12 | Knaledge | rather - the likliehood of that sort of change being made? |
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| 23:50.15 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, just deleted my interface and rebuilding it and noticed I can't interact with the PitBull icon on the FuBar panel I got: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1992/wowscrnshot071807014458by9.jpg |
| 23:50.36 | ckknight | weird |
| 23:50.41 | ckknight | dunno what could cause that |
| 23:50.56 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44033 10Assessment/Modules/ (Aura.lua BarInterface.lua): |
| 23:50.56 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 23:50.56 | CIA-22 | - Some cleanup of del() |
| 23:50.56 | CIA-22 | - Fixed aura recipient list type |
| 23:51.27 | [Liquidor] | Only addons installed: PitBull, FuBar, Bartender, simpleMinimap and to me doesn't seem like any of them would interfer except from PitBull and FuBar tho |
| 23:51.56 | weab | Knaledge: would you actually prefer it to work that way, or would you rather be able to change the modifier key to ctrl or alt or the like? |
| 23:52.37 | Knaledge | Well I mean since most people seem to know about the modifier key, I don't know how it might affect them in the future patches where users can specify it to either right or left shift/alt/ctrl etc. |
| 23:52.46 | sb | ckknight: did you notice my screenshot? :o |
| 23:52.50 | Knaledge | me personally though, to keep it simple, would like to just skip inn keepers |
| 23:53.17 | Knaledge | there's never much "gossip" that I've found at innkeepers anyhow - they have pretty vanilla options (buy shit or make this my home) |
| 23:53.19 | ckknight | sb: which screenshot was that? |
| 23:53.28 | sb | ckknight: http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3263/wowscrnshot071707202142to4.jpg <-- "[name]"? :P |
| 23:53.33 | sb | that one ; |
| 23:53.34 | sb | ;) |
| 23:53.39 | ckknight | oh, I already fixed that |
| 23:53.41 | sb | unparsed [name] tag |
| 23:53.43 | sb | okay |
| 23:54.14 | Coruss | end of the day, cya later folks |
| 23:54.22 | Shirik | I'll see you |
| 23:54.24 | Shirik | you won't see me |
| 23:54.36 | Shirik | wtf |
| 23:54.47 | Shirik | ns why do you hate me! T_T |
| 23:54.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:54.50 | weab | Knaledge: and the entire point of the module is all innkeepers have the bind text which you want to use much less frequently than their buy window, so it skips it |
| 23:54.58 | Shirik | <3 |
| 23:55.09 | Kaydeethree | it's services? when do they ever play nice? |
| 23:55.12 | Knaledge | that I can see as a valid point |
| 23:55.17 | Kaydeethree | s/services?/services!/ |
| 23:55.29 | cladhaire | LightHeaded updated.. load messages are now hidden by default, we have a new command that lets you change the alpha of the background textures (letting you see through the LH frame) and new parsed comment |
| 23:55.32 | Shirik | oh fun |
| 23:55.39 | weab | so the point of the modifier key is to override what you almost always want to do for the thing you rarely do |
| 23:55.42 | Knaledge | I agree there - might not be woth the trouble - I just find it's one of those things that it happens first, THEN I remember to use a modifier key |
| 23:56.01 | Knaledge | true enough |
| 23:56.14 | Knaledge | I see what you mean though |
| 23:56.27 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r44034 10Skinner/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:56.27 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Updated Xperl, ItemSync, FactionGrinder, Ludwig, EnhTooltip & tekKompare |
| 23:56.27 | CIA-22 | - Turned off Lua Error check |
| 23:57.34 | weab | just explaining why I hesitate to add a ignore innkeeper option, it seems to go against what the module is for is all. I can see that some might rather have the override something other than shift though |
| 23:57.54 | Pkekyo | jesus titty fucking christ...my guild is about as helpful as a turd on the sidewalk >.< |
| 23:57.56 | Knaledge | well I think that might be a start then |
| 23:58.13 | Knaledge | I appreciate the explaination also btw :) |
| 23:58.21 | Knaledge | not needed but it helps in understanding |
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| 23:59.04 | Knaledge | might also be one of those "cross that bridge when oyu come to it" type things too |
| 23:59.34 | Knaledge | if not enough people bring it up, it might not be worth the effort or amount of potentially introduced/unforseen issues |
| 23:59.53 | ckknight | I always hated the module that skipped past innkeepers |
| 23:59.58 | ckknight | such a bitch |
