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| 00:05.31 | cncfanatics | ~seen ckknight |
| 00:05.32 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 33m 26s) #norganna (6h 33m 26s) #wowace (6h 33m 26s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 5h 35m 42s, last said: 'I even did one on internet radio'. |
| 00:06.20 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43740 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (4 files): |
| 00:06.20 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:06.20 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up the AQ40 errors |
| 00:07.16 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43741 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: Fix X-Embeds for WindowLib. |
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| 00:16.09 | phirephly | Antiarch, you up for more tutoring tonight? I've had almost 60 downloads of my language mod already and no bitching yet, so I figure it's working okay. I have ideas for expansion, but they involve things I haven't tried yet. |
| 00:16.16 | Boubouille | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/mageseason2.jpg |
| 00:17.13 | sbu | 'oh wtf |
| 00:17.26 | sbu | Boubouille: only mage or all classes? |
| 00:17.50 | Boubouille | only mages |
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| 00:19.00 | raider|poul | anyone who can help me out, if i got a jpg image, what format and settings shall i use if i wanna save it and use it for some interface ui texture thing? |
| 00:19.18 | Mikk | you need .tga |
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| 00:19.41 | Mikk | and it needs to be 16,32,64,128,256, or 512 pixels wide and high |
| 00:19.51 | Mikk | not necessarily the same height and width though |
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| 00:20.36 | raider|poul | but i need to use one of those, i cant make a image same size sa my resolusion ? |
| 00:20.45 | raider|poul | are 512 max? |
| 00:20.51 | raider|poul | or continue 1024 |
| 00:20.55 | raider|poul | 2048 |
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| 00:23.17 | MentalPower | 512 |
| 00:23.44 | phirephly | Developers on tonight? I got questions. |
| 00:23.55 | MentalPower | always on |
| 00:24.01 | phirephly | Cool. |
| 00:24.05 | phirephly | I' |
| 00:24.07 | phirephly | v |
| 00:24.10 | phirephly | sorry |
| 00:24.14 | phirephly | Gaming keyboard. Not worth a crap for typing. |
| 00:24.36 | phirephly | I need to save some data between sessions in a mod I have and I've read what I can of the API doc for ACE-DB |
| 00:24.48 | MentalPower | raider|poul: the texture needs to be either TGA or BLP and the dimensions have to be a power of two with a limit at 512, the image need not be square |
| 00:24.50 | phirephly | You have time to walk me through it? |
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| 00:25.09 | raider|poul | thx MentalPower |
| 00:25.27 | Mikk | phirephly: sure.. do you have something halfway that you can put up on ace.pastey.net? |
| 00:25.36 | MentalPower | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
| 00:25.47 | Mikk | that works too |
| 00:25.53 | Mikk | if you don't want to use acedb |
| 00:26.00 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43742 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (11 files in 11 dirs): |
| 00:26.00 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 00:26.00 | CIA-22 | - Fix drycode bugs. |
| 00:26.00 | CIA-22 | - Remove now-unnecessary menu options that I missed in the initial conversion. |
| 00:26.01 | phirephly | I wanna use the Ace stuff. Seems much simpler. |
| 00:26.10 | Mikk | well... yes and no |
| 00:26.10 | phirephly | Sorry. Dealing with kid aggro too. |
| 00:26.33 | Mikk | for the most basic use, acedb is more complicated than just plain savedvar dump |
| 00:26.49 | Mikk | BUT if we're talking config data being saved, acedb has the benefit of profiles |
| 00:26.54 | Mikk | which most of us love |
| 00:26.55 | Kemayo | It's if you want profiles or default values for things that AceDB becomes nifty. |
| 00:26.58 | phirephly | For now, I have only 1 variable I want to save. I need to save it by character. It's a single digit numeric character. And I intend to have more later. This is a practice project for me. It's profileish at least. |
| 00:27.34 | MentalPower | oh Mikk, in case you didn't catch it |
| 00:27.35 | Mikk | self:RegisterDB("MyAddonDB", "MyAddonDBPerChar") |
| 00:27.38 | phirephly | Once I've got the process down, I'll expand what I'm doing |
| 00:27.45 | Mikk | self.db.char.myvar = foo |
| 00:27.49 | Mikk | ^gets saved |
| 00:28.06 | phirephly | crap. THat's it? I thought it was way more complicated than that. lol |
| 00:28.09 | Mikk | of course, you also need to put into the .toc file that MyAddonDB needs to be saved |
| 00:28.11 | raider|poul | guess it becomes more complicated then :) i was hoping i could take a screenshoot and then just model something in photoshop that fits around chatbox's and bars ect and then remove the screenshot and save as tga and then load it ingame for fancy screenshots :) |
| 00:28.17 | Mikk | and MyAddonDBPerChar |
| 00:28.43 | Mikk | i'm gonna go edit the wiki page, sec |
| 00:29.05 | phirephly | And to get it back ou, I just reference self.db.char.myvar later? I can say bar=self.db.char.myvar? |
| 00:29.36 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r43743 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Pathaleon.lua: LittleWigs: Second despawn trigger to Pathaleon |
| 00:30.03 | MentalPower | raider|poul: still posible, but not as simple as you might think |
| 00:30.14 | phirephly | This is gonna be cake. You guys did some amazing stuff with these basic APIs. Very good work. |
| 00:30.24 | raider|poul | ye MentalPower, i know, i just need to cut and paste it all together :P |
| 00:30.30 | raider|poul | aint gonna use time on it |
| 00:30.32 | phirephly | Just to be sure, it's self<dot> not self<colon> on that? |
| 00:30.48 | MentalPower | raider|poul: you can either create one texture and downsample whatever you create in PS to 512x512, or you can create multiple textures and place them together in-game |
| 00:31.14 | MentalPower | phirephly: <dot> |
| 00:31.29 | phirephly | Cool beans. Back in a bit with a progress report. |
| 00:31.33 | MentalPower | colon is only used in the context of functions |
| 00:31.42 | cncfanatics | can someone tell ckknight when he's online that pitbull doesnt work atm ? |
| 00:31.49 | cncfanatics | didnt manage to contact him since I noticed |
| 00:31.50 | dodgizzla | cncfanatics: It does for me |
| 00:31.52 | sbu | Saroz: hm - did you read my 'ping' about raid casting bars? ;o |
| 00:32.08 | cncfanatics | dodgizzla, remove all ur WTF and try reconfiguring it, I cant access the config menu :/ |
| 00:32.17 | dodgizzla | cncfanatics: Not too fancy about doing that... :> |
| 00:32.19 | raider|poul | ye MentalPower, would do the last sugested. But aint that good in photoshop that i am gonna do it tho, was just thinking off it :) maybe i am lucky and find some framework/image already made thats easy to make something nice from |
| 00:32.28 | cncfanatics | well, someone tell him please :p I need sleep |
| 00:32.38 | raider|poul | but kinda have no idea where people post such images for free use |
| 00:33.35 | Mikk | phirephly: correct |
| 00:34.25 | phirephly | What happens if you do this: bar=self.db.char.myvar before you have done this: self.db.char.myvar=foo? |
| 00:34.46 | raider|poul | you setting bar = nothing? |
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| 00:35.11 | phirephly | I'm thinking first time the mod is run, there won't be a value in self.db.char.myvar and I need to know how to trap that situation. |
| 00:35.22 | MentalPower | phirephly: you get nil |
| 00:35.33 | phirephly | As long as it sets bar=nil, that's fine. Is "nil" = '' <null string>? |
| 00:35.44 | Antiarc | nil ~= "" |
| 00:35.52 | phirephly | Cool. Back in a sec. |
| 00:36.19 | Mikk | phirephly: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0#Example_1 <- that should be all you need |
| 00:36.23 | MentalPower | nil ~= 0 ~= "" |
| 00:36.32 | MentalPower | ~= false |
| 00:36.42 | raider|poul | hmm |
| 00:36.46 | Kemayo | Notably, '' and 0 both evaluate to true. |
| 00:36.50 | Thelyna | that sounds confusing |
| 00:36.57 | MentalPower | how so? |
| 00:36.58 | raider|poul | nil returns to false. |
| 00:37.08 | Thelyna | I'm just used to C |
| 00:37.14 | phirephly | I looked at that earlier, Mikk, and maybe it's the beer or the pizza, but I needed something more Socratic than the example. |
| 00:37.21 | Mikk | i made a new example |
| 00:37.27 | Mikk | easier |
| 00:37.29 | MentalPower | think about it tho, which one is more logical? |
| 00:37.45 | raider|poul | all thats not nil or false is true :) |
| 00:37.54 | Mikk | raider|poul: but nil isn't == false |
| 00:38.01 | raider|poul | naa true Mikk |
| 00:38.10 | Mikk | it's just that if(false) and if(nil) both react the same way |
| 00:38.29 | Saroz | nope sbu |
| 00:38.45 | raider|poul | nil evaluet to false condition, or well just forget it, we know what we mean! |
| 00:38.52 | Mikk | yes :> |
| 00:38.53 | Saroz | nevcairiel: just my UI |
| 00:38.53 | raider|poul | and i cant spell! |
| 00:39.20 | sbu | Saroz: mh - would it consume much cpu/memory to display a castbar for each sRF player frame? :p |
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| 00:40.36 | raider|poul | http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3/wowscrnshot071307151720ev5.jpg, working on some raidtracking tool - all data are saved in a database kinda like the acedb. are there API for checking the size of such "database" table? |
| 00:41.27 | Saroz | sbu, doubt it would be bad, but don't see how you are going to find space for it on the frames |
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| 00:42.21 | Diao | looks like rdx o_O |
| 00:43.13 | raider|poul | diao, i use rdx so might why :P |
| 00:43.18 | sbu | Saroz: mh... |
| 00:43.29 | raider|poul | be why^^ |
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| 00:46.01 | Josh_Borke | hi |
| 00:47.33 | vhaarr | raider|poul: define 'size' |
| 00:47.38 | raider|poul | kb |
| 00:47.42 | raider|poul | memory |
| 00:47.42 | vhaarr | then no |
| 00:47.48 | Pkekyo | is it possible to say what level my target is with a macro? |
| 00:48.03 | vhaarr | Pkekyo: UnitLevel("target") ? |
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| 00:48.17 | raider|poul | vhaarr, no as not posible, or just takes time to write some functions that calculate it? |
| 00:48.19 | Josh_Borke | returns -1 for ?? lvl i think |
| 00:48.24 | Pkekyo | how do I get that to print? (trying to make a polymorph macro) |
| 00:48.39 | vhaarr | raider|poul: no as in there's no builtin way to calculate it, but yes it would be possible |
| 00:48.44 | Josh_Borke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1 <-- go there Pkekyo |
| 00:49.13 | raider|poul | vhaarr, got any examples of it done? |
| 00:49.16 | vhaarr | no |
| 00:49.17 | phirephly | Okay, testing myVar='' is not trapping when myVar is nil. What's the code for detecting a nil value in a variable? |
| 00:49.28 | vhaarr | phirephly: var == nil? |
| 00:49.39 | vhaarr | if not var then |
| 00:49.45 | phirephly | Is "nil" a reserved word? |
| 00:49.48 | Josh_Borke | phirephly: yes |
| 00:49.51 | vhaarr | if type(var) == "nil" then |
| 00:49.56 | phirephly | Okay. I'll give it a shot. |
| 00:50.09 | Josh_Borke | technically 'if not var then' will happen when var == false though |
| 00:50.22 | vhaarr | obviously |
| 00:50.26 | Josh_Borke | indeed |
| 00:51.27 | Pkekyo | Josh_Borke: do you happen to know which part of that guide I should focus on? |
| 00:51.42 | Josh_Borke | well, it's a general guide for macros |
| 00:51.56 | mjc_ | iPhone IRC FTA |
| 00:52.02 | mjc_ | ftw |
| 00:52.04 | Pkekyo | so...basically, it won't help me if I don't read it all? |
| 00:52.04 | mjc_ | LOL |
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| 00:52.36 | Josh_Borke | but specifically, you need to add something like: /run SendChatMessage("I'm sheeping %s (%d)", UnitName('target'), UnitLevel('target'),<something or other>) |
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| 00:55.10 | Pkekyo | error message: [string "SendChatMessage("I'm sheeping %s (%d)", UnitName('target'), Uni..."]: 1 :unexpected symbol near '<' |
| 00:55.21 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo: obviously i don't know what goes there |
| 00:55.27 | Josh_Borke | !api SendChatMessage |
| 00:55.29 | ThraeBot | Josh_Borke: SendChatMessage("msg" [, "chatType" [, "language" ] [, "channel" ]]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 00:55.56 | Pkekyo | hmm |
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| 00:57.47 | Pkekyo | Josh_Borke: the %s (%d)-part of it is correct? |
| 00:58.11 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 00:58.18 | Josh_Borke | wait, no |
| 00:59.00 | Pkekyo | hms...what does %s (%d) actually do? |
| 00:59.00 | Josh_Borke | /run SendChatMessage(string.format("I'm sheeping %s (%d)", UnitName('target'), UnitLevel('target')), 'PARTY') |
| 00:59.02 | Josh_Borke | might work |
| 01:00.57 | Pkekyo | it does |
| 01:01.08 | Pkekyo | but is it possible to get unitname + unitlevel inside a bracket? |
| 01:01.31 | Saroz | /run SendChatMessage(("I'm sheeping (%s %d)"):format(UnitName('target'), UnitLevel('target')), 'PARTY') |
| 01:02.25 | Josh_Borke | well aren't you special saroz |
| 01:02.27 | Josh_Borke | ;-P |
| 01:02.53 | Saroz | ~kick Josh_Borke |
| 01:02.55 | purl | ACTION kicks Josh_Borke |
| 01:03.07 | Josh_Borke | using the special : notation |
| 01:03.27 | Saroz | looks pretty |
| 01:04.50 | Pkekyo | what I'm trying to achieve: "Turning [Unitname, level] into a white and fluffy sheep, keep your filthy hands off it!" |
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| 01:05.07 | Pkekyo | is this even possible? |
| 01:07.42 | Chompers | Instant /ignore :D |
| 01:07.57 | Pkekyo | wha? |
| 01:08.14 | Josh_Borke | /run SendChatMessage(string.format("Turning [%s, %d] into a white and fluffy sheep, keep your filthy hands off it!", UnitName('target'), UnitLevel('target')), 'PARTY') |
| 01:08.32 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43744 10CraftList2/ (CraftList2.lua CraftList2.toc): |
| 01:08.32 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 01:08.32 | CIA-22 | - cooldown timers are now listed right to each not-ready craft |
| 01:08.32 | CIA-22 | - added Abacus-2.0 to externals |
| 01:09.17 | Josh_Borke | ~lart kergoth |
| 01:09.17 | purl | cuts off kergoth's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 01:11.56 | Pkekyo | it's perfect, Josh_Borke! thank's soooo much |
| 01:12.25 | Pkekyo | when raiding I only change PARTY into RAID, right? :> |
| 01:13.01 | dodgizzla | I think you can always use RAID and it will automatically use party if you're not in a raid |
| 01:13.07 | dodgizzla | Or so I read once in the patch notes.. never tried it though |
| 01:14.02 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43745 10CraftList2/: |
| 01:14.02 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 01:14.02 | CIA-22 | - forgot to set svn externals |
| 01:14.48 | Pkekyo | dodgizzla: no, it doesn't :> |
| 01:15.28 | phirephly | Got it working just fine. Thanks all. |
| 01:15.40 | phirephly | Anyone familiar with the project update process on curse-gaming? |
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| 01:17.37 | phirephly | <tunk tunk tunk> Is this thing on? |
| 01:17.50 | Xuerian | curse? |
| 01:17.52 | Xuerian | What's that? |
| 01:17.58 | phirephly | Funny man. |
| 01:18.02 | dodgizzla | Pkekyo: Then do UnitInRaid("player") and "RAID" or "PARTY" :> |
| 01:18.11 | phirephly | :) |
| 01:18.18 | Mikk | Athou: WOO HOO |
| 01:18.25 | Mikk | I've had people poke me to add that in for over a month :P |
| 01:18.31 | Xuerian | Man |
| 01:18.46 | Xuerian | I so want a irc client that will let me quickly filter the message log based on name and such |
| 01:19.21 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Enable logging and then grep to your hearts desire :> |
| 01:19.23 | Xuerian | Or history++ working for irc... that'd work too... |
| 01:19.42 | Pkekyo | dodgizzla: could you show me how to do that with using the macro? 'cause I'm clueless when it comes to this |
| 01:19.43 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Tell me that when I'm back on a nvidia card. |
| 01:20.10 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: For now, all my base belongs to xp |
| 01:20.17 | Athou | Mikk: yeah me too :D |
| 01:20.19 | Mikk | Pkekyo: /party I'm sheeping %t /cast 'Polymorph' |
| 01:20.26 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Cygwin :> |
| 01:20.58 | Pkekyo | Mikk: here's my current macro: /run SendChatMessage(string.format("Turning [%s, %d] into a white and fluffy sheep, keep your filthy hands off it!", UnitName('target'), UnitLevel('target')), 'PARTY') |
| 01:21.07 | dodgizzla | Pkekyo: Just replace 'PARTY' with all of this: UnitInRaid("player") and "RAID" or "PARTY" |
| 01:21.14 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: I haven't gotten around to setting that up yet... Probably should.... |
| 01:21.28 | dodgizzla | UnitInRaid("player") will evaluate to true, if you're in a raid and therefore "RAID" will be used; otherwise it'll use "PARTY" |
| 01:21.40 | Mikk | Pkekyo: then add /cast "Polymorph" on the next line and voila |
| 01:21.40 | Pkekyo | unknown chattype |
| 01:21.46 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: There's also grep.exe somewhere iirc |
| 01:21.48 | Xuerian | There's a Draenei in the Exodar named Drysc o_0 |
| 01:21.54 | raider|poul | dodgizzla, why not put it in a macro /party I am sheeping %t |
| 01:21.58 | Mikk | Pkekyo: or drag the spell over from the spellbook |
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| 01:22.22 | Mikk | Pkekyo: Go read http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Mage |
| 01:22.41 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: But, that'd be sensible |
| 01:23.05 | dodgizzla | raider|poul: Because he wants to send it to the raid chat.. and AFAIK /party always sends to your party only :D |
| 01:23.14 | Xuerian | Dammit. Where's ck when you need him |
| 01:23.19 | Josh_Borke | wacking off |
| 01:23.51 | raider|poul | ok dodgizzla |
| 01:24.02 | Xuerian | Well, if that's where he is when YOU need him, that's slightly scary. When I need him, he's just not here >_> |
| 01:24.52 | Xuerian | Perhaps, more pertinently, how do you know, Josh_Borke? =O |
| 01:24.55 | dodgizzla | Ah, wasn't that internal "addon" channel the thingie that had a fallback to party if you weren't in a raid but send a message there? |
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| 01:25.19 | Mikk | dodgizzla: correct |
| 01:25.21 | Josh_Borke | Xuerian: ok, ok, i'll admit. i'm ckknight's twin brother |
| 01:25.25 | dodgizzla | Ah, mixed them up then |
| 01:25.26 | Mikk | but that doesn |
| 01:25.28 | Xuerian | !! =O |
| 01:25.40 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: unpossible, you're not rewriting enough addons |
| 01:25.51 | Xuerian | The man has a point. |
| 01:26.04 | Josh_Borke | i'm far more sensible than he is |
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| 01:26.35 | Josh_Borke | and lazier |
| 01:26.38 | Mikk | i'd have thought anyone sharing the same genome would have an irresistible urge to take otherwise fine-workign addons and rewrite them to be three times the size |
| 01:27.03 | Josh_Borke | no that's just him |
| 01:27.53 | art3mis | mikk: how come when i read that i immediately thought of ckk? |
| 01:28.05 | art3mis | without reading anything else |
| 01:28.10 | Mikk | ummmm |
| 01:28.17 | Mikk | well, your assumption was correct :P |
| 01:28.56 | Wobin_ | ahah |
| 01:29.00 | Wobin_ | byebye blind change =) |
| 01:29.23 | raider|poul | ye they changed it back to what it was |
| 01:29.34 | raider|poul | or atleast erased the changes they maded |
| 01:29.36 | raider|poul | made |
| 01:29.56 | art3mis | mmm cornnuts |
| 01:29.56 | Mikk | needs reags again? |
| 01:30.02 | raider|poul | we will properly see some other ajustment |
| 01:30.09 | raider|poul | ye changed back to how it is now |
| 01:30.11 | Wobin_ | "Here Rogues! Have something nice!" *YOINK* "Ha, made you look!" |
| 01:30.14 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 01:30.29 | raider|poul | i guess they are gonna remove the reags and then leave it at the 3min cd or so |
| 01:30.29 | Mikk | the warlocks were prolly screaming bloody murder |
| 01:30.53 | Mikk | wtb shardless shadowburn & soulfire |
| 01:30.54 | raider|poul | ye we cant have that we now blind the warlock after using cos |
| 01:31.33 | art3mis | what change is this? |
| 01:31.38 | raider|poul | you cant compair the reags of blind to any other spell needing reags tbh |
| 01:32.01 | Wobin_ | The change was originally "Remove the requirement for a reagent and drop the cooldown to 1 minute" |
| 01:32.06 | Wobin_ | They just removed the change entirely from the patchnotes |
| 01:32.06 | raider|poul | if i could buy 100 reagens at a vendor i would not care, but having to go farm 1hour for 40 blind is kinda :PP |
| 01:32.18 | raider|poul | ye Wobin_ |
| 01:32.23 | art3mis | awww |
| 01:32.29 | art3mis | poor rogues needed to find stuff |
| 01:32.34 | Wobin_ | Then again, I got so much blinding powder from pickpocketing, it wasn't funny |
| 01:32.39 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43746 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: loot/item update |
| 01:32.39 | kergoth | farm for an hour? |
| 01:32.45 | art3mis | give me a decent CC other than fear and ill care about you ;P |
| 01:32.46 | Josh_Borke | ~lart kergoth |
| 01:32.46 | purl | resizes kergoth's terminal to 40x24 |
| 01:32.47 | kergoth | i have like 300 blinding powder in the bank from my pickpocket/cheapshot macro |
| 01:32.53 | kergoth | i end up vendoring it |
| 01:33.23 | raider|poul | you cant pickpocked the backkeepers in aldorbank!!! |
| 01:33.30 | raider|poul | :D |
| 01:33.41 | raider|poul | and i dont dare to go any place else |
| 01:33.43 | art3mis | *fear* oh would you look at that he's immune or used a trinket *runs back to corpse* |
| 01:34.34 | Mikk | i still think warlocks should be able to selfbanish |
| 01:34.48 | art3mis | or even better *fear* awww he's bringing friends back *runs back to corpse* |
| 01:35.05 | sylvanaar | Pkekyo do you use prat? |
| 01:36.11 | Mikk | not that selfbanish would work at all in solo pve |
| 01:36.22 | Mikk | but in solo pve they've got pets that actually mean something |
| 01:36.46 | Josh_Borke | art3mis: you obviously mean: "fear" crap, friends, Howl, RUN!, oh god, where's my bluebie, oh no, i'm going down, i'm sinking, *runs back to corpse* |
| 01:37.40 | art3mis | http://www.knbc.com/slideshow/news/13679015/detail.html |
| 01:37.59 | Mikk | Howl? Did anyone ever get a successful howl off without instant howl talent? |
| 01:38.02 | art3mis | Josh_Borke: yeah the first one was pvp ;P |
| 01:38.10 | art3mis | cept that i dont have howl |
| 01:38.14 | Josh_Borke | mikk: hell's yea |
| 01:38.16 | art3mis | or a blubie ;P |
| 01:38.36 | Josh_Borke | holy shit, look at his leg! |
| 01:38.40 | Mikk | yuck |
| 01:38.42 | Mikk | yuck yuck yuck |
| 01:38.48 | raider|poul | are eu ptr up? |
| 01:38.57 | Mikk | now imagine what happens when the bull rips the horn out |
| 01:39.08 | Daemona | yes eu ptr is up |
| 01:39.11 | Josh_Borke | oh geebus mikk, i hadn't thought of that! |
| 01:39.14 | art3mis | so its closer to *fear* god i hope i kill this other one before he comes ba...shit and he brought friends *shield runnnnnnnnn* dammit *runs back to corpse* |
| 01:39.21 | Daemona | and char copy is kinda instant |
| 01:39.48 | raider|poul | hmm do i need to dl new installer or just login to the ptr from last time? |
| 01:39.56 | Mikk | art3mis: except priest fear has lower cd, and priests have shield and renew |
| 01:40.04 | art3mis | renew? |
| 01:40.08 | art3mis | in shadow? |
| 01:40.34 | Mikk | ok, if you can't switch out while the shield holds, yeah, you're screwed :P |
| 01:40.37 | art3mis | yeah taht 300-400 tick is totally gonna keep me alive when 4 mobs come back and hit for 300-600 ;) |
| 01:40.54 | Mikk | bah, desperate prayer :P |
| 01:41.02 | art3mis | better i stay shadow and hope for some miracle damage reduction as im running ;P |
| 01:41.08 | art3mis | fuck you alliance! |
| 01:41.10 | art3mis | ;) |
| 01:41.11 | Mikk | muaha =) |
| 01:41.31 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 01:41.37 | Josh_Borke | yea, that was pretty dumb by blizzard |
| 01:41.49 | Josh_Borke | why the fuck they thought to give alliance 2 fear ward is beyond me |
| 01:42.22 | art3mis | or why they figured that pw:shield and fear was enough cc for something that is a main target shrug ;) |
| 01:42.29 | Josh_Borke | btw, i am a dwarf priest ;-) |
| 01:42.39 | art3mis | had they scaled up pw:shield to like 3-4 damage it would have been fine |
| 01:42.47 | art3mis | err 3000-4000 |
| 01:43.03 | Josh_Borke | meh, priests shouldn't be main healing in PvP anyway |
| 01:43.04 | art3mis | but that 1600 just doesnt cut it on anything thats the same level as you ;P |
| 01:43.09 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r43747 10Sphere/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Sphere: - Added some parts of the "menu" system |
| 01:43.19 | art3mis | healing or not, priests are ALWAYS first target |
| 01:43.25 | art3mis | shadow because we're awesome |
| 01:43.30 | art3mis | holy because we can heal |
| 01:43.38 | art3mis | although disc priests just get laughed at ;) |
| 01:43.42 | Josh_Borke | exactly! |
| 01:44.05 | art3mis | and thas your team thats doing it ;P |
| 01:44.41 | art3mis | its too bad pain supression sucks |
| 01:44.53 | art3mis | sopmehow 6 seconds just doesnt seem like its worth it |
| 01:45.01 | *** join/#wowace phirephly (n=chatzill@ip24-252-199-248.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 01:45.37 | Mikk | replace pain suppression talent with a talent that double pw:shield |
| 01:45.41 | Mikk | that's the pvp priest for ya |
| 01:46.10 | Mikk | or.. hrm.. no.. ADD such a talent and keep pain suppression |
| 01:46.13 | Josh_Borke | pain suppression: double the amount of damage absorbed by PW: Shield while the affect is up |
| 01:46.40 | Josh_Borke | in addition to what it currently does |
| 01:47.12 | Mikk | or some talent that boosts your healing when you get crit |
| 01:47.22 | art3mis | they have that |
| 01:47.28 | art3mis | well sorta |
| 01:47.36 | art3mis | crit == free cast or soemthing |
| 01:47.43 | Josh_Borke | that's for smite |
| 01:47.46 | Mikk | crit == uninterruptible cast |
| 01:47.54 | art3mis | they have that |
| 01:47.59 | Josh_Borke | they have both |
| 01:48.00 | Mikk | yes |
| 01:48.00 | art3mis | focus/martyr |
| 01:48.01 | Mikk | that's what they have |
| 01:48.10 | Josh_Borke | but it's still interruptible |
| 01:48.11 | art3mis | i always take that |
| 01:48.16 | art3mis | nope |
| 01:48.16 | Mikk | i meant something that increases healing output |
| 01:48.19 | Josh_Borke | kick or blind |
| 01:48.26 | art3mis | oh as a stun yeah |
| 01:48.28 | Mikk | "unpushbackable" |
| 01:48.32 | art3mis | not as a damage cast slower |
| 01:48.36 | phirephly | Night guys. I got my changes in place and updated my project on curse |
| 01:48.36 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 01:48.45 | Josh_Borke | ~congratulate phirephly |
| 01:48.46 | purl | ACTION congratulates phirephly on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 01:48.50 | Mikk | lawl |
| 01:49.17 | art3mis | i wonder who found out how to make cheese or that it was good |
| 01:49.30 | phirephly | One of these days someone is going to explain to me what the problem is with curse. But not tonight. I gotta go to bed. Been up a LOOOOOOONG time. |
| 01:49.38 | art3mis | or how they convinced the first person to try sour cream |
| 01:50.02 | Mikk | "shit, i left it out and it smells funny... ohwell, i'm bloody hungry, i'll try it and see" |
| 01:50.04 | Mikk | easy |
| 01:50.08 | Diao | lol |
| 01:50.17 | art3mis | heh |
| 01:50.24 | art3mis | okay that explains sour cream |
| 01:50.29 | art3mis | now what about cheese |
| 01:50.37 | art3mis | its not like it could just form randomly |
| 01:50.41 | Josh_Borke | wow, i left this milk out and it got really hard |
| 01:50.42 | Diao | people used to store milk |
| 01:50.46 | Diao | in sheep bladders |
| 01:50.49 | Diao | for desert travel |
| 01:50.51 | art3mis | ahh okay |
| 01:50.59 | art3mis | that makes more sense |
| 01:51.02 | Diao | and it became cheese or something |
| 01:51.10 | art3mis | cuz you kind of need to compress milk to make it |
| 01:51.32 | Mikk | nah that just makes it faster |
| 01:51.32 | art3mis | just letting it sit around doesnt give you cheese |
| 01:51.33 | Mikk | you need a fermenter for it to happen yeah |
| 01:51.36 | art3mis | that gives you sour cream with pretty purple mold |
| 01:51.40 | Mikk | plenty of that left in sheep stomachs |
| 01:51.40 | Xuerian | XD |
| 01:51.55 | art3mis | my fridge can attest to my "science projects" |
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| 01:52.00 | Mikk | hehehe |
| 01:52.02 | Josh_Borke | it is likely that the process of cheese making was discovered accidentally by storing milk in a container made from the stomach of an animal, resulting in the milk being turned to curd and whey by the rennet from the stomach. There is a legend to this effect, about an Arab nomad carrying milk across the desert. <-- from wikipedia |
| 01:52.21 | Josh_Borke | just as Diao said |
| 01:52.31 | art3mis | who needs wikis when you can just ask and get someone else to look for you ;P |
| 01:52.36 | Diao | lol |
| 01:52.41 | Diao | i read it somewhere a few years ago |
| 01:52.47 | Diao | random facts or something |
| 01:52.48 | Mikk | yer, our MT needs to get back from vacation damnit |
| 01:52.54 | Mikk | she's the fastest googler in the guild |
| 01:53.19 | Diao | lol |
| 01:53.46 | art3mis | almost gave you the orange until i remember thats the category i never get right ;P |
| 01:53.51 | art3mis | (sports) |
| 01:53.58 | Mikk | o.O |
| 01:54.07 | art3mis | sports and liesure |
| 01:54.12 | art3mis | green is science and nature ;P |
| 01:54.16 | Mikk | oh duh |
| 01:54.17 | Mikk | now i get it |
| 01:54.36 | Josh_Borke | duh |
| 01:54.44 | Mikk | yeah i tend to pick green too :P |
| 01:54.58 | Mikk | my better half likes brown. huhu :S |
| 01:55.06 | art3mis | thats what ive heard |
| 01:55.09 | art3mis | ;) |
| 01:55.14 | Mikk | ... |
| 01:55.23 | art3mis | or rather what the internets shown me ;) |
| 01:55.40 | Mikk | now i'm being slow again >.< |
| 01:56.08 | art3mis | ill give you a hint, it's something about her liking black cock ;) |
| 01:56.14 | Mikk | :O |
| 01:56.16 | Xuerian | ' |
| 01:56.17 | Xuerian | ... |
| 01:56.35 | art3mis | so anyways |
| 01:56.48 | Mikk | so erm howdya know i'm not black? :P |
| 01:56.49 | art3mis | was playing around at work with linux installs agaibn |
| 01:56.59 | art3mis | you type in fluent english ;P |
| 01:57.13 | Mikk | ~lart art3mis |
| 01:57.13 | purl | beats art3mis over the head with a microkernel |
| 01:57.23 | art3mis | hey you asked |
| 01:57.30 | art3mis | oh speaking of blacks |
| 01:57.37 | Mikk | dude, if someone's utter crap at english, i usually assume they're british teens |
| 01:57.44 | Mikk | noone's more crap at english than them |
| 01:58.05 | art3mis | so im standing by the subway door at atlantic terminal, headphones blaring out straight outta compton |
| 01:58.07 | Wobin_ | oh god |
| 01:58.08 | Wobin_ | http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7118/thetechnopriestsbooktwoob3.jpg |
| 01:58.09 | Xuerian | Oh, I beg to differ |
| 01:58.19 | Xuerian | Try hick teens |
| 01:58.20 | Wobin_ | technopriests are... fucking batshit crazy |
| 01:58.30 | art3mis | me oblivious to just how loud it is, im watching all the black people get on looking at me as the HUGE smiles cross thier faces |
| 01:58.35 | art3mis | i think alright thats just wierd |
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| 01:58.52 | art3mis | doros shut girl beside me without headphones starts bopping around to it |
| 01:59.00 | art3mis | the music stops she stops |
| 01:59.07 | art3mis | ccr fortunate son comes on |
| 01:59.12 | art3mis | she starts bopping again |
| 01:59.40 | art3mis | i get to my stop and she looks at me all sad and says "awww i forgot my ipod at home" and waves as i elave |
| 02:00.03 | art3mis | and thats a typical ride home for my ghostly white ass |
| 02:00.25 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 02:00.27 | Mikk | sounds like a blast :) |
| 02:00.32 | art3mis | its great |
| 02:00.38 | Pkekyo | "SELLING HUNDREDS OF POEMS - ALSO SELLING LYRICS FOR FOLLOWING ARTISTS: BARBRA STREISAND, MADONNA, VENGABOYS WHISPER ME FOR PRICES ALL BETWEEN 1-500G CAN ALSO SING FOR 15G MIN IN UR GUILDS WT CHANNEL" |
| 02:00.38 | Pkekyo | that just popped up in trade channel! |
| 02:00.44 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 02:00.54 | Mikk | lmao |
| 02:01.01 | art3mis | its like whatever music player im using(ipod iriver, ipaq, psp) they ALL know when im hitting atlantic and start to play one of my 3 rap songs |
| 02:01.19 | art3mis | bahahahahah |
| 02:01.28 | art3mis | BALLS OF STEEL! |
| 02:03.57 | Pkekyo | christ...poems for 1-500g? |
| 02:04.36 | art3mis | get him to read lady of shallot ;P |
| 02:05.31 | art3mis | thats only like 15 pages or so |
| 02:06.00 | Wobin_ | Rime of the Ancient Mariner =) |
| 02:07.57 | art3mis | antix mepis is pretty awesome |
| 02:08.07 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r43748 10PreferredItems/PreferredItems.lua: |
| 02:08.07 | CIA-22 | PreferredItems: |
| 02:08.07 | CIA-22 | - Removed enchantments from PI calculation. |
| 02:08.10 | art3mis | its runs slick on my old ibm 600 laptop |
| 02:08.30 | art3mis | with 3com 689 pccard |
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| 02:22.51 | Pkekyo | meh, getting quotes on bash.org approved takes ages :< |
| 02:23.27 | Pkekyo | oh...hmm...it's 4am...maybe that has something to do with it :> |
| 02:24.02 | Wobin_ | oh man |
| 02:24.05 | Wobin_ | http://www.maitrekarl.com.au/pages/sub%20pages/bastille.htm |
| 02:24.08 | Wobin_ | What should I choose?! |
| 02:24.32 | Pkekyo | stop making me hungry :< |
| 02:24.41 | Wobin_ | going there for my Birthday =) |
| 02:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | bastille day? arn't y ou australian, not french? |
| 02:24.47 | Wobin_ | well yeah |
| 02:24.56 | Wobin_ | but I don't turn down good food! |
| 02:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I would go with with the Game Terrine trio |
| 02:25.13 | Pkekyo | * trio of Game Terrine (venison, pheasant, hare), Bosc pear salad and sourdough |
| 02:25.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Lamb, or maybe rib eye. |
| 02:25.19 | Wobin_ | I'll happily celebrate bastille day if it comes with food like that |
| 02:25.35 | Wobin_ | The dessert is where I'm running into a wall of choices =) |
| 02:25.37 | Pkekyo | * rib eye on the bone with pommes frites, leaf salad, red wine jus and Béarnaise |
| 02:25.46 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.52 | NightHawkTheSane | And the cappuccino crème brûlè |
| 02:26.00 | Pkekyo | without a doubt: Cappuccino Crème Brûlèe with chocolate beignet! |
| 02:26.05 | NightHawkTheSane | agreed. |
| 02:26.06 | Wobin_ | oh! |
| 02:26.14 | Wobin_ | I totally missed the chocolate beignet |
| 02:26.17 | Wobin_ | Sold! |
| 02:26.25 | Pkekyo | two of my favourite things..I'd kill to have them both in one! :< |
| 02:26.28 | NightHawkTheSane | glad we could help. :) |
| 02:26.33 | Wobin_ | \o/ |
| 02:26.41 | NightHawkTheSane | also, Wobin_, i'm going to kill you and take your place. |
| 02:26.46 | Wobin_ | Muhaha |
| 02:26.51 | Wobin_ | (You'll probably be too tall =P) |
| 02:26.55 | Pkekyo | NightHawk: need help? I'm in |
| 02:26.58 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, i'm kinda short ;) |
| 02:27.11 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 02:28.32 | Kemayo | I find myself regretting not trying truffled mac'n'cheese when I saw a restaurant serving it... |
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| 02:28.43 | Diao | truffled o_O |
| 02:28.44 | Diao | how much did it cost |
| 02:29.00 | Kemayo | Can't remember. |
| 02:29.17 | Wobin_ | There was one place that served degustation that offered truffled butter to go with the bread... |
| 02:29.31 | Wobin_ | You have no idea how much butter we went through in that meal =P |
| 02:29.38 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43749 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 02:29.38 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 02:29.38 | CIA-22 | - the '~' symbol can now be used to exclude results in a query (ie: !gem red ~spell returns red gems without the word 'spell' on them). This is highly experimental and needs a lot of testing. |
| 02:30.13 | NightHawkTheSane | (has anyone here read name of the wind?) |
| 02:30.48 | Pkekyo | wth does "truffled" mean? |
| 02:30.51 | Wobin_ | (Is it 'Arthur'?) |
| 02:31.00 | Wobin_ | Pkekyo: blended with truffles |
| 02:31.11 | Wobin_ | or just has truffles in it |
| 02:31.21 | Wobin_ | And the more I look at that word, the weirder it gets |
| 02:33.00 | NightHawkTheSane | haha.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010916.html |
| 02:33.43 | ulic | I'm thinking now, but it's not possible call a mouse click on a Button via a script is it? |
| 02:33.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:33.50 | ulic | s/now/no |
| 02:33.55 | kergoth | cycircled needs to be modified to support skinning LoD addons |
| 02:34.26 | Wobin_ | damnit |
| 02:34.39 | Wobin_ | why does Baggins always not load? |
| 02:36.34 | kergoth | Tuller, spacing options are -way- hokey |
| 02:36.49 | kergoth | Tuller, lower spacing on the bars to -3, quit, do something, back into options, shows 2 again |
| 02:37.20 | kergoth | Tuller, on one of my bars, adjusting the spacing only moves the position of button 5 relative to button 4, isnt changing any other spacing that i can see (10 buttons in the bar, 5 per column) |
| 02:40.52 | Mikk | Athou: hrm.. use "!" tbh.. "~" is very lua specific |
| 02:41.03 | Mikk | While "!" is kinda C, it's at least more commonly used |
| 02:41.34 | Athou | I guess I'll add support for '!' and '-' too |
| 02:41.46 | Mikk | Doh. "-" is even better, yeah |
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| 02:43.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not aware of anywhere aside from lua that uses ~ as a negation operator. *shrug* |
| 02:45.02 | dylanm | You see it in some logic books, but ¬ is preferred for that these days. |
| 02:45.07 | Mikk | Yeah.. C even uses it as ones complement |
| 02:45.47 | Mikk | Damn weird choice tbh. Most everything else uses "!" |
| 02:46.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, or outright "not" |
| 02:47.31 | dylanm | I like the "not". I love it when code flows naturally like that. |
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| 02:48.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm fairly ambivalent about it. I vastly dislike languages that try to be too "englishy", but I don't usually mind "not", "and", "or" and such. |
| 02:49.26 | Mikk | HAI2U, CAN HAS "STDIO"? |
| 02:49.28 | dylanm | Oh I wouldn't go as far as, say, AppleScript. But I lurrrv Ruby and the like. |
| 02:49.36 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: i loath applescript. >< |
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| 02:49.39 | dylanm | Mikk: Haha yes. |
| 02:49.53 | NightHawkTheSane | every time i try to do something in it i want to stab my eyes out |
| 02:50.05 | NightHawkTheSane | or rather, stab out the eyes of whoever invented it. |
| 02:51.13 | dylanm | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah it really doesn't work. Ruby support in OS X is improving and I think 10.5 is going to really put popular scripting languages on the same level as AS. |
| 02:51.23 | Mikk | set foo to bar except if something ain't true then baz? |
| 02:51.46 | Mikk | ^ the bastard child of applescript and perl? |
| 02:52.09 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43750 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 02:52.09 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 02:52.09 | CIA-22 | - '-' and '!' may now be used to exclude too |
| 02:52.21 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: hm, really? That'd be neat if leopard did that. You can sort of hack around it with osascript, and "do shell script" though |
| 02:52.33 | Mikk | Athou: Next on the wishlist, "firstword secondword" parsed as one word |
| 02:52.44 | Mikk | or rather as one substring for searching purposes |
| 02:53.02 | Athou | ah right |
| 02:53.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: example applescript statement: "set thismany to text returned of options as integer" wtf? :P |
| 02:53.28 | Mikk | ~whalemurder NightHawkAtWork |
| 02:53.35 | Mikk | ! |
| 02:53.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Mikk |
| 02:53.49 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Mikk, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 02:53.52 | Mikk | ~whalenutblow NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:54.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whalenutshot Mikk |
| 02:54.03 | purl | ACTION drops a vastly obese whale named Ricardo on Mikk's family jewels |
| 02:54.08 | Mikk | nut SHOT |
| 02:54.09 | Mikk | damnit |
| 02:54.10 | dylanm | Mikk: IZ VAR BIGGER THAN 10? |
| 02:54.56 | dylanm | Oh wow they actually have interpreters and everything for LOLCODE now. |
| 02:55.05 | Mikk | yeah it's horrible :P |
| 02:55.12 | dylanm | And a Textmate bundle... yesss. |
| 02:55.12 | Mikk | fully functional cross-platform lolcode shit |
| 02:58.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh, thats disgusting :P |
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| 03:05.52 | Neebler | happy friday the 13th! |
| 03:06.01 | Mikk | hahahahaha, they added string escapes to lolcode |
| 03:06.08 | Mikk | ":)" = newline |
| 03:06.19 | Mikk | ":o" = beep |
| 03:08.58 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43751 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 03:08.58 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 03:08.58 | CIA-22 | - quoted text with " " will now be handled as a block (ie: !enchant "Heal Power" returns enchants matching the exact string "Heal Power" and not "Heal" and "Power" separately) |
| 03:09.50 | Athou | Mikk: there you go :) |
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| 03:12.41 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r43752 10JasonQuest/ (Core.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 03:12.41 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 03:12.41 | CIA-22 | - Not sure what I was thinking, debug messages use the same function as the |
| 03:12.41 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:17.19 | jwwpua | ID: 51Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\Quixote\Quixote-1.0\Quixote-1.0.lua line 458: attempt to compare nil with numberDebug: Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:270: TriggerEvent() Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:910: Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:903 |
| 03:17.25 | jwwpua | right after leaving Eye of the storm |
| 03:17.34 | jwwpua | latest update |
| 03:18.34 | jwwpua | also have a line in chat log that states "Quixote communication error: Quixote Superficial PARTY nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil" |
| 03:18.41 | jwwpua | Superficial is in my group and was in my group in the BG |
| 03:18.58 | jwwpua | is also in Guild/Friend list |
| 03:21.53 | NightHawkTheSane | "Doctor Jackson, if you wouldn't mind treating my wound." "... I'm an archaeologist." "Yes, but you're also a Doctor." "... of archaeology." |
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| 03:32.07 | Kemayo | jwwpua: Interesting. |
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| 03:34.51 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43753 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Patch over a weird communications issue. |
| 03:35.03 | Kemayo | jwwpua: That commit should stop you seeing errors, at least. |
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| 03:35.29 | Kemayo | jwwpua: I don't know why Superficial was sending a completely blank message. There's nothing in Quixote that should cause that. |
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| 03:35.44 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43754 10Transcriptor/ (Core.lua embeds.xml): Transcriptor: fix AL reference |
| 03:36.57 | Kemayo | There's a chance it's some sort of AceComm bug caused during zoning, I guess. |
| 03:37.13 | Shirik | gooooood eevening!!!!! |
| 03:37.19 | Shirik | sorry, had a bit too much ice cream tonight |
| 03:37.33 | NightHawkTheSane | morning. |
| 03:47.41 | jwwpua | Kemayo: sorry was in game. he might have an older version or something. dunno if it was an issue in the past or not |
| 03:47.50 | jwwpua | Kemayo: thanks for the update. |
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| 03:51.23 | Shirik | hrmph |
| 03:51.28 | Shirik | there's a serious problem when you see |
| 03:51.40 | Shirik | "This patch will update the game version from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3. This is the latest version available." right above |
| 03:51.53 | Shirik | " * This patch will update the game version from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2. This is the latest version available. " |
| 03:54.17 | NightHawkTheSane | you're mom will update the game from 2.1.0 to 2.1.1. |
| 03:54.50 | NightHawkTheSane | or perhaps more amusingly, 'This patch will update your mom from version 2.1.0 to 2.1.1. This is the latest version of your mom available." |
| 03:54.56 | NightHawkTheSane | (also, your*) |
| 03:56.05 | Shirik | Sometimes I wish my mom got an updated :/ |
| 03:56.11 | NightHawkTheSane | don't we all. |
| 03:57.33 | Kinkx | I can delete all the Changelog*.xml files right? I have 3107 of em in my AddOns folder |
| 03:58.10 | Shirik | no, if you do that it'll remove the changes from the client |
| 03:58.31 | Kinkx | lol |
| 03:58.40 | Shirik | heh, that would be awesome. Instead of patches we could just write changelogs and it would be fixed |
| 03:58.51 | Kinkx | Yea, that would be neat ;P |
| 03:58.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Progressively applied diff files? :p |
| 03:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | That would be a nightmare to maintain. :D |
| 03:59.23 | Shirik | nah, I mean |
| 03:59.27 | Shirik | you could even use XML |
| 03:59.36 | NightHawkTheSane | or do you mean "-fixed stupid bug" and all the stupid bugs would get fixed? ;) |
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| 03:59.53 | Shirik | <Patches><Patch version="1.1"><Fix>Fixed stupid bug</Fix></Patch></Patches> |
| 03:59.56 | Shirik | :) |
| 04:00.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 04:01.03 | Kinkx | Can I delete folders called ChangeLog-Lib? :o |
| 04:01.08 | Shirik | Try fate/stay night instead |
| 04:01.13 | Kinkx | Just have changelogs in em, ah.. I'll delete those too |
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| 04:01.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Kinkx: chances are you can delete anything marked as changelog |
| 04:01.46 | Kinkx | Okie, thanks :) |
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| 04:02.17 | Shirik | hi again |
| 04:02.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I just wrote a script to pull those out and keep the latest ones in a seperate folder |
| 04:02.38 | NightHawkTheSane | as well as chmod them, because they've got no effing permissions on them |
| 04:03.12 | Kemayo | I special-cased my updater to give them normal permissions. >_> |
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| 04:04.00 | Shirik | could just write a login script to su root :P |
| 04:04.04 | Shirik | ^^ |
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| 04:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't really matter. |
| 04:04.40 | Shirik | why exactly do you need perms on changelogs? |
| 04:04.47 | NightHawkTheSane | to do -anything- with them |
| 04:04.51 | NightHawkTheSane | the permissions are set to 000. |
| 04:05.06 | Shirik | do you actually need to read them? :P |
| 04:05.36 | Shirik | I've never found the notes to be actually useful. They say stupid things like "Added new macro syntax" |
| 04:05.46 | Shirik | you have to go to the forums to get real details |
| 04:06.23 | NightHawkTheSane | If the change notes don't say anything useful, you should be slapping around the mod authors to make coherent commit notes. |
| 04:06.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Most people are reasonably decent about that, though |
| 04:06.45 | Shirik | oh, we're talking about different changelogs |
| 04:06.56 | Shirik | I'm talking about the WoW client's |
| 04:07.15 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, no. we're talking about mod changelogs. |
| 04:07.31 | NightHawkTheSane | the ones automatically included in the zips on wowace/files |
| 04:07.34 | Shirik | This is what I get for picking up in the middle of a conversation =P |
| 04:07.35 | Kinkx | wth... my netherdrake is pink on PTR >_< |
| 04:07.39 | Kinkx | Thats not cool at all |
| 04:07.46 | Shirik | I wouldn't know ^^ |
| 04:07.53 | Shirik | ahaha |
| 04:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | which, as noted, are zipped up with 000 permissions, do doing anything with them inside a script is basically impossible unless you chmod them |
| 04:08.12 | QuantumDelta | Antiarc are you around at all? :p |
| 04:10.22 | jwwpua | are there any arena addons that get the battlegroup info updated often? |
| 04:10.35 | Arrowmaster | Kinkx: which netherdrake? |
| 04:11.05 | Kinkx | Swift netherdrake 310% speed |
| 04:11.11 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 04:11.19 | Arrowmaster | only one i cant get |
| 04:12.15 | Kinkx | It has pink hightlights :< |
| 04:13.29 | Arrowmaster | i get a bunch of 'wtf?'s from people because of my netherdrake |
| 04:14.00 | Arrowmaster | ive got the azure one and ill pull out my oozling when im idling around somewhere like shatt or outside an instance |
| 04:14.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:14.46 | Kinkx | How does it look like then? :o |
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| 04:14.50 | Arrowmaster | the color of the azure with oozling is just perfect |
| 04:15.03 | Arrowmaster | its this great ooze green |
| 04:15.12 | Kinkx | Hehe |
| 04:15.59 | kenlyric | you can pull out the oozling while mounted? |
| 04:16.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 04:16.31 | FryGuy | no, but you can pull out the oozeling while fighting maexxna |
| 04:16.53 | abug | Force of Nature: Using this spell in a neutral town will no longer cause its victim to be attacked by town guards. It also will no longer cause nearby party members to lose stealth. |
| 04:16.58 | abug | how could they botch up one spell that bad? |
| 04:18.22 | Arrowmaster | theres seriously something weird with blizzards spell effect coding probably |
| 04:18.32 | Arrowmaster | battlemaster procs pull party members out of stealth |
| 04:19.00 | abug | spellsurge procs off gathering herbs |
| 04:19.55 | Arrowmaster | ive heard if you put a self buff proc enchant on a mining pick it will proc when mining |
| 04:20.33 | kenlyric | neat. |
| 04:21.04 | Arrowmaster | not really sure on that one though |
| 04:21.27 | Arrowmaster | especially since i think crusader is the only proc enchant you can put on a mining pick |
| 04:22.26 | Diao | mongoose? |
| 04:22.29 | Diao | or wait |
| 04:22.31 | Diao | level req |
| 04:22.32 | Diao | uhh |
| 04:23.00 | Diao | there's no other procs that buff you o_o |
| 04:23.34 | Arrowmaster | thats what i thought too |
| 04:24.16 | jme | Interface\AddOns\AtlasLoot\TableRegister\loottables.tw.lua:452: ']' expected near ' |
| 04:24.26 | jme | any atlasloot devs on? :) |
| 04:26.35 | ulic | anyone that isn't busy with svn access should be able to fix that probably |
| 04:26.43 | jme | yeah |
| 04:27.22 | jme | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.30 | jme | should be AtlasLoot_TableNames["AQ40Trash1"][1] = "å°æ€ª (AQ40)"; |
| 04:28.28 | jme | wow, those fonts actually show up in textmate |
| 04:28.42 | haste | you don't send utf-8 on IRC I guess |
| 04:28.50 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on your client |
| 04:28.56 | haste | since it shows up as mojibake |
| 04:29.02 | Shirik | no it really doesn't |
| 04:29.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, it really does. |
| 04:29.16 | Shirik | since IRC is specifically stated to only support 8 bit characters |
| 04:29.21 | jme | hmm |
| 04:29.36 | Shirik | if the client supports multibyte encoding technically it's not following the IRC protocol |
| 04:29.41 | jme | AddOns\FuBar_ArenaFu\Libs\Glory-2.0\Glory-2.0.lua:24: Glory-2.0 requires Deformat-2.0 |
| 04:29.42 | NightHawkTheSane | it still transports unicode just fine |
| 04:29.44 | jme | another bug! |
| 04:29.47 | Shirik | however it can be argued it's a "feature extension" |
| 04:29.56 | jme | does that just require adding Deformat-2.0 to the toc or something? |
| 04:30.08 | NightHawkTheSane | the irc protocol spec is likely years old, and pre-unicode anyway, so arguing that it doesn't support it is a little absurd :P |
| 04:30.24 | Shirik | it is exactly true though |
| 04:30.33 | NightHawkTheSane | that said, most any irc server wont have a problem with it, and its almost entirely purely a client side issue |
| 04:30.40 | jme | Deformat-2.0 isn't included with FuBar_ArenaFu it seems |
| 04:30.46 | Shirik | the IRC protocol does not specify anything beyond standard 8-bit ASCII characters |
| 04:30.51 | Jagobah | jeez |
| 04:30.51 | Shirik | this is true |
| 04:30.59 | Shirik | but anyway, it's too late for me |
| 04:30.59 | Shirik | night |
| 04:31.02 | Jagobah | Can I get a WoWAceUpdater tool for the wowaceupdater? |
| 04:31.09 | Jagobah | >=| |
| 04:34.41 | Funkeh`` | later folks |
| 04:36.22 | QuantumDelta | Erm. |
| 04:36.31 | QuantumDelta | How do you actually get pitbull to export layouts x_X |
| 04:36.38 | QuantumDelta | options greyed out for me |
| 04:37.25 | NightHawkTheSane | save your layout? |
| 04:50.01 | QuantumDelta | yea |
| 04:50.26 | QuantumDelta | I have a US and EU account |
| 04:50.48 | Diao | http://slashdot.org/articles/07/07/14/043200.shtml |
| 04:50.52 | QuantumDelta | would prefer to be able to port the setup directly between the two using that function if poss since copying my wtf didn't seem to work |
| 04:59.12 | Trisorion | Do any of you guys know if the flasks of arcane/shadow fortification will change into flasks of pure death/light on patch day |
| 04:59.42 | QuantumDelta | haven't heard anythin about that oO |
| 04:59.56 | Trisorion | worldofraids.com |
| 05:00.04 | Kinkx | Yep, good stuff :) |
| 05:00.05 | Megalon | Trisorion: as they have the same itemID they will probably just change into the new flasks |
| 05:00.30 | Kinkx | The new sound system on the PTR is annoying |
| 05:00.40 | Kinkx | click-click-click-click |
| 05:02.01 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r43755 10UnitActionBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:02.01 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 05:02.01 | CIA-22 | - Added "Activate" module. This module provides the "unitactionbarsactivate" and "uaba" console command line support for opening activator actions from the command line (and closing them all). |
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| 05:09.53 | Fisker- | lol |
| 05:09.56 | Fisker- | disenchant got a new icon |
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| 05:10.46 | ulic | is there a confirm DE dialog? :) |
| 05:12.35 | Fisker- | no |
| 05:13.09 | Lyfe | nope, so you can still really easily DE your tier6 item that you spent the last 6 weeks trying to get really easily :) |
| 05:13.54 | Lyfe | or, maybe if it was only 6 weeks trying to get it, it'd be tier4.. whatever :) |
| 05:13.56 | Pkekyo | anyone know at what number you should stop stacking up on defense? |
| 05:15.55 | Kinkx | 490, and you can't get crit |
| 05:16.12 | Kinkx | by lvl 73 mobs and bosses |
| 05:16.12 | Pkekyo | I'm at 489 now >_< |
| 05:17.02 | Pkekyo | should I really bother with getting that last point? |
| 05:17.37 | Xerophyte_ | Feel free to get more even: it's about as good an avoidance stat as dodge over 490, to the extent that avoidance stats are good at any rate |
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| 05:18.48 | Xerophyte_ | Heck, I lug around a good 40ish def in trinkets and alternate gear just so I can stay at 490 for resistance fights. Ah, the endless fun of gearing tanks... |
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| 05:20.16 | Pkekyo | hmf |
| 05:20.52 | Pkekyo | wth should I do to get that last point of defense? just put one talentpoint in anticipation? |
| 05:21.33 | Xerophyte_ | Eh, don't worry overmuch about it, you'll get it from gear soon enough |
| 05:22.27 | Xerophyte_ | Having a 1/25000 chance of being critted by bosses rather than 0 is unaesthetical but very rarely, well, critical |
| 05:22.35 | Pkekyo | avoidancetanking any good btw? or would I suffer from lack of rage? |
| 05:23.36 | Kinkx | Most seem to prefer going full out HP/AC rather then Avoidance |
| 05:23.43 | Xerophyte_ | Err. Depends on the encounter and what you're doing in it; usually stamina & armour are preferable |
| 05:24.06 | Arrowmaster | pre BC i heard negatives about it due to healers getting lazy and it being so random |
| 05:24.36 | Arrowmaster | some fights it can help out a lot on |
| 05:24.58 | Arrowmaster | like prince |
| 05:25.45 | Pkekyo | Vitality is a bullshit talent >.< |
| 05:25.51 | Xerophyte_ | Avoidance really shines if threat is unimportant and you're taking many, smaller hits. I.e. offtanking a bunch of adds. |
| 05:26.24 | Pkekyo | - not something I'd go for as MT, in other words..? |
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| 05:26.57 | Arrowmaster | well it helps with not getting crushed |
| 05:27.03 | Xerophyte_ | Again, usually not. If you're main tanking new content, chances are your main problem is staying alive long enough to learn anything rather than healers going oom |
| 05:27.47 | Pkekyo | I've done most of kara before, but my guild haven't |
| 05:27.53 | Kinkx | Pkekyo - You should get out http://evilempireguild.org/guides/ |
| 05:28.11 | Kinkx | http://evilempireguild.org/guides/after490.php |
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| 05:31.35 | Pkekyo | meh, I'm stomping about in too many blues >.< |
| 05:32.34 | Arrowmaster | isnt 1% dodge and 1% parry the same amount of rating now? |
| 05:32.57 | Xerophyte_ | Arrowmaster: Nope, parry still costs more. It's just not as extreme |
| 05:33.03 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 05:33.41 | Xerophyte_ | 18.9 dodge or 22.4 parry for 1%; used to be 30ish parry I think |
| 05:36.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, if anyone has any minor design change suggestions for wowwiki, I'd love to hear them |
| 05:37.49 | Kirkburn|afk | So far I've added a background and tidied up the history page :) |
| 05:39.13 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0cZVhZ0EtoI0zfesz <--- comments/ideas? |
| 05:41.42 | Kinkx | I like Imp. Blood Rage, and Vitality isn't bad to have |
| 05:42.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I've got this build on my warrior, i like it. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0cZVxzZ0EtohMzbesp |
| 05:42.25 | Xerophyte | Not taking Vitality is not really recommended. 500 healthish isn't bad, given the alternatives. Imp. demo shout is fairly pointless outside of 25 mans, you're at the AP reduction "cap" after 1 point in it without Curse of Recklessness on mobs, iirc |
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| 05:43.35 | Pkekyo | tbh, I think Vitality is a shit talent |
| 05:44.01 | NightHawkTheSane | its not. |
| 05:44.05 | Xerophyte | But, really, much of it is a matter of preference. I'm http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czZZMEtoIMzcest |
| 05:44.52 | Pkekyo | imo, 500hp from a 5point talent is a fucking joke |
| 05:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | 500 hp is 500 hp, and it scales with every buff you get. |
| 05:45.24 | NightHawkTheSane | your job as a warrior is to have as much hp as possible. |
| 05:45.56 | Kinkx | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TVZVZbEtoIMdcest |
| 05:46.15 | Xerophyte | What better talent can you take? Stamina is your main stat, even a little more is good value really |
| 05:46.15 | NightHawkTheSane | and the 10% str is a nice bonus on top of that, really |
| 05:46.20 | Pkekyo | Xerophyte: what's with TM as prot? I haven't found much use for it... |
| 05:47.25 | abug | fun being a warlock with a first tier talent that gives 15% stamina |
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| 05:47.40 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 05:47.53 | Pkekyo | giving warriors a DEEP PROT talent like that is fucking mean-spirited by blizzard |
| 05:48.05 | Xerophyte | I like swapping in 'serker rages, intercepts & mocking blows, it saves me a bunch of rage when I do so. Not much use vs a raid boss but, again, neither are any of the options imo |
| 05:48.07 | Kreiger | hey guys. What's a good quest-watcher addon? the default conflicts with some buttons on my ui. |
| 05:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: its balance. sta is what warriors live and die by, so you have to pay through the nose for it. |
| 05:49.03 | Kinkx | Devastate is a useless talent imo |
| 05:49.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, aside from parry and tc, not much else that's reachable outside prot is particularly stunning for raiding |
| 05:49.12 | NightHawkTheSane | devastate is good for soloing. |
| 05:49.33 | Kreiger | NightHawkTheSane, cruelty. |
| 05:49.42 | Kinkx | Yea, but would rather have "Shield Slam 2" or something like that at the end of the tree :) |
| 05:49.58 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, for a pure raid tank build, cruelty stunning |
| 05:49.59 | Pkekyo | yeah |
| 05:50.04 | NightHawkTheSane | er, cruelty isn't stunning |
| 05:50.14 | Pkekyo | cruelty is basic and boring tbh |
| 05:50.18 | Kreiger | I always thought some version of AOE sunder would be nice. Or lacerateish thing. |
| 05:50.50 | Pkekyo | would've been interesting if cruelty gave the equivalent agility of 5% crit instead :> |
| 05:50.50 | Pkekyo | now THAT would be a stunning talent imo |
| 05:50.57 | NightHawkTheSane | if devastate would apply sunders, it'd be much nicer ability |
| 05:51.07 | Pkekyo | great crit for pvp/dps and great avoidance for tanking :> |
| 05:51.19 | Pkekyo | agreed, nighthawk |
| 05:51.48 | NightHawkTheSane | as it is, it's main draw is that if you're 40 points in prot already, there's no real reason not to pick it up, and it's a solid ability for soloing |
| 05:51.59 | Pkekyo | yeah |
| 05:52.28 | Pkekyo | blizz kinda shafted us with the 41-point abilities imo...although rampage is ok |
| 05:52.44 | Kinkx | I've yet to see anyone that actually has Endless Rage :) |
| 05:53.21 | Xerophyte | Devastate is a good 40 extra average threat/second and lets you solo & dps slightly less horribly. At least it's not the old rogue combat 41-pointer, go negative dps impact :) |
| 05:54.01 | Pkekyo | <--- used to have Endless Rage |
| 05:54.33 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TVMx0hbZVVuVMxRVzVoc seems interesting, no? |
| 05:54.47 | Pkekyo | for 2h, that is |
| 05:54.50 | Arrowmaster | one of the top damage hybrid warriors in my guild has endless rage |
| 05:55.19 | Kinkx | Have a link to his profile? Would be interested to see his build :) |
| 05:55.29 | Arrowmaster | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Worr |
| 05:56.13 | Xerophyte | Pkekyo: 2h fury without imp. slam would be ... depressing, I think. :) Also, I'd rather have 2h speck than TM, at least in pve |
| 05:56.40 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.57 | NightHawkTheSane | quest watcher? i hardly know her! |
| 05:56.58 | Pkekyo | Xerophyte: no, it's not, it's fun as hell |
| 05:57.24 | Xerophyte | Kreiger: nQuestLog? |
| 05:57.58 | Pkekyo | Xerophyte: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVMhdAb0xZVVkV0xRVzZM <--- my current build...I've had ALOT of fun with it |
| 05:58.24 | Kreiger | Xerophyte, it replaces the default quest-watcher? preferably with the ability to move it around? |
| 05:58.54 | Kinkx | This is the build I use for Pve/pvp/arena/everything -> http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pV0xdNioM0zZE0zm0gRV |
| 05:59.02 | Xerophyte | Kreiger: Yes and yes. It might be a bit too bloaty, but try it out |
| 05:59.15 | Kreiger | i don't mind bloaty. i have the ram to spare. |
| 05:59.35 | Kreiger | ty. btw |
| 05:59.50 | Xerophyte | I meant more in terms of gobs-of-feature-bloaty; try it out and see anyhoo |
| 06:00.21 | Xerophyte | (Clarification: I use it, I like it, not everyone does :) |
| 06:00.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i like nquestlog, but it does do a lot |
| 06:00.48 | Pkekyo | tbh, I *HATE* the enrage prereq for flurry :< |
| 06:01.10 | Kinkx | How come? |
| 06:01.56 | Pkekyo | that talent is absolutely rubbish for PvE, but flurry is soooo awesome for PvE |
| 06:02.11 | Pkekyo | I'd rather see them unconnected :< |
| 06:02.21 | Kreiger | Enrage procs occasionally for me. It's a nice little boost |
| 06:02.44 | Kreiger | This is me, btw. If anybody cares |
| 06:02.45 | Kreiger | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Socio |
| 06:02.49 | Kinkx | Ah true, for pve enrage aint to usefull unless you pull aggro alot ;p |
| 06:03.04 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43756 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua: |
| 06:03.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:03.04 | CIA-22 | - Fixed table bug |
| 06:03.04 | NightHawkTheSane | and if you do, you're doing it wrong :P |
| 06:03.17 | Pkekyo | Kinx: I pull aggro constantly (alot of AP and crit combined with whirlwind and cleave = win) :p |
| 06:03.35 | Kinkx | Hehe ;) |
| 06:04.09 | Diao | enrage should never have been linked with flurry |
| 06:04.16 | Diao | completely unrelated addons |
| 06:04.17 | Diao | er |
| 06:04.18 | Diao | talents |
| 06:04.52 | Kreiger | hey Diao? what server do you play on? |
| 06:05.00 | Diao | lol |
| 06:05.02 | Diao | what do you think :P |
| 06:05.05 | Kreiger | You bastard |
| 06:05.06 | Kreiger | haha |
| 06:05.08 | Kreiger | wtf |
| 06:05.21 | Kreiger | got your vidcard back? |
| 06:05.25 | Diao | ya got it yesterday |
| 06:05.28 | Diao | went out to buy a gamecard today |
| 06:05.44 | Kreiger | And? |
| 06:06.15 | Pkekyo | fury tree like this: Cruelty 5/5 --> Unbridled Wrath 5/5 --> Imp. Cleave 3/3 --> Commanding Presence 5/5 --> DW Specc 5/5 --> Imp. Execute 2/2 --> Death Wish 1/1 --> 5/5 Flurry --> Precision 3/3 --> Bloodthirst 1/1 --> Imp. Zerker Stance 5/5 --> Rampage |
| 06:06.20 | Pkekyo | would be an AWESOME dps build |
| 06:06.56 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r43757 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: fixed zhCN localization for SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0, it will no longer recognize Mage's Evocation as a mount event |
| 06:08.22 | Pkekyo | zhCN? |
| 06:08.44 | Diao | china |
| 06:08.47 | Xerophyte | Chinese localisation |
| 06:08.48 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 06:09.15 | Pkekyo | meh, I wanna learn mandarin :< ....and arabic! |
| 06:09.36 | Diao | it's not very difficult :O |
| 06:10.05 | Pkekyo | riiiiiight... |
| 06:10.29 | Pkekyo | ni hao! |
| 06:10.41 | Pkekyo | connichiwae or whatev |
| 06:11.01 | Xerophyte | Konnichi wa would be japanese, but close enough |
| 06:11.27 | Pkekyo | while we're speaking japanese: domo arrigato |
| 06:11.27 | Kinkx | Can't herb Talonsworn Forest-Rager's in Skettis on PTR :| |
| 06:11.28 | Pkekyo | kek |
| 06:13.04 | Pkekyo | wtb pandas |
| 06:13.11 | Pkekyo | pandas are fucking awesome! |
| 06:13.26 | Pkekyo | that's it...I'm going to china to see the fucking pandas! |
| 06:14.18 | NightHawkTheSane | you want to watch pandas fuck? ... |
| 06:15.41 | Kinkx | I hear they don't mate that often, it's a big concern apparently |
| 06:16.45 | Pkekyo | nighthawk: no, I want to see the fucking pandas! |
| 06:17.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Kinkx: indeed. |
| 06:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: yes, thats what i said, you wanted to see pandas fuck, it's a little odd, but eh, whatever floats your boat, you know |
| 06:17.19 | Pkekyo | yes, apparently pandas doesn't fuck...the thing I can't understand though, is why they keep saying on the news that THE PANDAS STILL AREN'T FUCKING?! |
| 06:17.43 | Pkekyo | nighthawk: NO! I don't want to see the fucking pandas fuck, I want to see the fucking pandas! |
| 06:18.28 | NightHawkTheSane | you want to see the fucking pandas fuck? that's a little redundant. |
| 06:19.03 | Pkekyo | SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE |
| 06:19.13 | Pkekyo | gah |
| 06:19.19 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. pie.. |
| 06:19.25 | NightHawkTheSane | almost as good as phi |
| 06:20.10 | Xerophyte | Mmm... well-proportioned pie |
| 06:20.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i could go for pie cut into slices with a width of phi |
| 06:22.10 | Megalon | i take 3,1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993 slices! |
| 06:24.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I should make an icon out of a fibionacci spiral |
| 06:25.12 | kenlyric | make it an impossible geometric shape, to shutdown the collective. |
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| 06:33.37 | theoddone33 | worn out from an epic halaa battle |
| 06:33.41 | theoddone33 | 170 marks |
| 06:33.42 | theoddone33 | heh |
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| 06:36.17 | Kinkx | Nice ^^ |
| 06:38.22 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r43758 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.de.lua: |
| 06:38.22 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:38.22 | CIA-22 | - German update (Big thx Farook) |
| 06:43.12 | Xuerian | damn you theoddone33 |
| 06:43.19 | Xuerian | Can't find pvp worth anything |
| 06:43.22 | Xuerian | I want teh marks >.< |
| 06:44.20 | theoddone33 | that was the most halaa action I've seen on my server since tbc launch |
| 06:44.50 | abug | bah missed a star trek reference |
| 06:45.01 | abug | I thought my pointy ears were tingling |
| 06:45.02 | Pkekyo | the most halaa action I've seen on my server isi 3 horde vs 5 alliance >.< |
| 06:46.01 | theoddone33 | we had 30 horde v about 10 alliance to start |
| 06:46.18 | theoddone33 | then we went to get the ZM towers and when we came back it was 30 alliance vs 25 horde |
| 06:46.28 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 06:46.42 | Pkekyo | what do you get for doing the ZM towers btw? |
| 06:46.49 | theoddone33 | nothing |
| 06:46.56 | theoddone33 | we were giving the alliance time to regroup so we could farm them some more |
| 06:47.03 | theoddone33 | but ... it didn't quite work out that way |
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| 06:50.33 | demilenos | hmm WAU2 beta |
| 06:50.53 | demilenos | so WAU doesnt work now? |
| 06:51.35 | Diao | it does |
| 06:51.56 | demilenos | thx |
| 07:00.22 | demilenos | fenlis´Ô °è½ÅÁö? |
| 07:02.38 | sylvanaar | i turned on my double byte support and cant read that |
| 07:03.07 | sylvanaar | clearly that wasnt good |
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| 07:03.27 | Mikk | gogo UTF8 |
| 07:04.56 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:05.08 | sylvanaar | that was it |
| 07:05.12 | Pkekyo | ffs, moderation on bash.org takes ages >.< |
| 07:06.13 | abug | www.bash.org |
| 07:06.37 | Pkekyo | yes |
| 07:07.21 | abug | lazy linkin ftw |
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| 07:14.04 | dreamss | i asked the admin to let me be a mod, i failed :( |
| 07:19.56 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r43759 10PlayerMenu/PlayerMenu.toc: |
| 07:19.56 | CIA-22 | PlayerMenu: |
| 07:19.56 | CIA-22 | - fix locale file load order in .toc |
| 07:21.50 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r43760 10EasyTrack/EasyTrack.lua: EasyTrack: minor update for svn rev id record. |
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| 07:22.48 | demilenos | sorry for use asian language :) |
| 07:23.23 | demilenos | i said to only fenlis, and he can read that |
| 07:23.45 | Pkekyo | having a reeeeally hard time choosing between two items here |
| 07:23.45 | Pkekyo | If I equip the new one (BoE) I Gain: 38 AP, 0.89% hit, but at the same time lose: 294hp, 0.30% crit |
| 07:23.45 | Pkekyo | I have 1358 AP, 139 hit rating, 24.52% crit, 9360hp unbuffed before equipping the new item |
| 07:25.06 | demilenos | rogue? |
| 07:25.21 | Pkekyo | WARRIOR |
| 07:25.40 | Pkekyo | *caps, sorry |
| 07:25.41 | demilenos | what means BoE =/ sorry |
| 07:25.49 | Jaxon | Fury or MS? |
| 07:25.49 | demilenos | dont worry |
| 07:26.03 | Pkekyo | 2h fury |
| 07:26.09 | Jaxon | ... |
| 07:26.12 | Pkekyo | demilenos: binds when equipped (not yet soulbound) |
| 07:26.21 | Jaxon | WTF is 2h fury |
| 07:26.32 | demilenos | thx i see |
| 07:26.37 | demilenos | 2h... |
| 07:26.46 | Pkekyo | 2h = two-handed weapon |
| 07:26.50 | demilenos | hit rating is less important |
| 07:26.53 | Jaxon | I know what 2h means |
| 07:27.08 | Xerophyte | How much hit do you have? |
| 07:27.11 | Pkekyo | well, you ought to know what 2h fury is then...a hybrid specc |
| 07:27.17 | Pkekyo | 8.81% atm |
| 07:27.24 | Jaxon | But 2h Fury is like none of the DPS of DW fury and none of the "utility/damage" of MS |
| 07:27.33 | Pkekyo | Jaxon: wrong |
| 07:28.28 | Pkekyo | I'm always on top-3 on damage in kara (got an insane rogue and lock above me :< ), and perform well in PvP as well |
| 07:29.00 | Pkekyo | can't complain over 3k bloodthirst crits :> |
| 07:29.01 | Jaxon | Then you have 3 other DPSers that aren't pulling their slack and your Arena Rating can't be that great without MS |
| 07:29.02 | Xerophyte | Don't need any more hit then, wont help a thing. 38 ap beats .3% crit for pure dps, up to you how you value the sta. |
| 07:29.06 | demilenos | lol rogues too strong |
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| 07:29.27 | Pkekyo | Jaxon: NO |
| 07:30.38 | Pkekyo | my 5v5 team is 414th on server.... |
| 07:30.52 | Xerophyte | Top 3 dps doesn't really mean anything by itself, though. If I pick the worst dps'ers I know to go through Kara I could beat them with Devastate-spam ... (fondly recalls the mage in his old MC guild that would watch every frostbolt fly to its target before recasting ... ah, good times) |
| 07:30.53 | demilenos | in pvp, 294hp much better, i think |
| 07:31.11 | Pkekyo | Xerophyte: well...they're good.... |
| 07:31.28 | Xerophyte | Great. What's good in dps? :) |
| 07:31.44 | Pkekyo | err |
| 07:32.08 | Pkekyo | dunno tbh, I don't have damagemeters myself, and guildies only post damage done :< |
| 07:32.59 | demilenos | well DM use so much resouse |
| 07:33.05 | Pkekyo | well geared people (gruul, kara, the eye), and skilled players |
| 07:33.14 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r43761 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
| 07:33.14 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: *DRYCODED* more FuBar plugin interactions : |
| 07:33.14 | CIA-22 | - added an option to display master target as text, |
| 07:33.14 | CIA-22 | - click (re)sets the master target, |
| 07:33.15 | CIA-22 | - shift-click toggle(s) KLHTM broadcast. |
| 07:33.42 | demilenos | good to see this |
| 07:33.56 | demilenos | click sets the master target |
| 07:34.20 | theoddone33 | haha, 1 minute regeantless blind on the ptr |
| 07:34.24 | demilenos | our officer doesnt change m.target shit |
| 07:34.51 | Pkekyo | I hope that doesn't pull through >.< |
| 07:35.05 | Pkekyo | rogues are hard enough as it is |
| 07:35.07 | theoddone33 | it won't |
| 07:35.53 | theoddone33 | cool |
| 07:35.58 | theoddone33 | in-game movie capture for mac |
| 07:36.00 | theoddone33 | in the next patch |
| 07:36.24 | demilenos | its cool |
| 07:36.46 | demilenos | but on pc? :( |
| 07:37.54 | theoddone33 | nooo |
| 07:38.04 | theoddone33 | archmage vorgath won't be usable in arenas anymore |
| 07:39.00 | Pkekyo | someone link the PTR patchnotes please? |
| 07:39.05 | demilenos | ttb |
| 07:39.12 | theoddone33 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 07:39.20 | theoddone33 | paladin blessing duration increased |
| 07:39.24 | theoddone33 | good stuff |
| 07:39.44 | demilenos | paly=blessing machine |
| 07:41.49 | demilenos | yesterday's vashj combat... we got in battle bless |
| 07:43.23 | theoddone33 | The following old-world factions have had their acquisition rate significantly increased: Cenarion Circle, Argent Dawn, Timbermaw Hold. |
| 07:43.25 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 07:44.37 | Pkekyo | 1081 da,age unarmed ^^ |
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| 07:45.44 | theoddone33 | Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish. |
| 07:45.46 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:45.49 | theoddone33 | took them long enough |
| 07:46.06 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 07:46.30 | sylvanaar | its working i believe, if you want to try |
| 07:47.27 | Pkekyo | http://www.cotfg.eclipse.co.uk/images/logo_t.gif my guild's logo :> |
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| 07:47.58 | demilenos | -_- |
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| 07:49.33 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 07:50.24 | demilenos | great work but not my favor |
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| 07:53.14 | Pkekyo | why doesn't people like goats? :< |
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| 07:54.08 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 07:54.09 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 2m 57s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 07:56.23 | demilenos | ~seen fenlis |
| 07:56.24 | purl | fenlis <n=jungseop@125.190.25.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 255d 11h 58m 41s ago, saying: 'Thanks. kergoth..'. |
| 07:56.53 | demilenos | ~seen next96 |
| 07:56.54 | purl | i haven't seen 'next96', demilenos |
| 07:56.58 | Pkekyo | FFS blizzard nerfed swordspecc!? |
| 07:57.07 | demilenos | ~seen next |
| 07:57.08 | purl | next <n=next@NAT-POOL-3.router.sknt.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 89d 9h 19m 1s ago, saying: ':)'. |
| 07:57.23 | demilenos | ~seen nymbia |
| 07:57.24 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 3h 58m 18s ago, saying: '~literal ckknight'. |
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| 07:57.49 | demilenos | ~seen omosiro |
| 07:57.49 | purl | i haven't seen 'omosiro', demilenos |
| 07:58.14 | demilenos | swordspec? |
| 07:58.52 | demilenos | ~seen damjau |
| 07:58.53 | purl | damjau <i=________@58.77.154.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 257d 1h 13m 34s ago, saying: 'sorry... TT'. |
| 07:58.56 | Pkekyo | warrior's swordspecc talent has taken a hit by the nerfbat |
| 07:58.56 | Pkekyo | " - Sword Specialization: This talent?s free extra attacks can no longer trigger additional extra attacks." |
| 07:59.19 | demilenos | hub |
| 08:00.35 | Pkekyo | :< evul evul blizzard |
| 08:00.58 | demilenos | that was why I play 2h wf warrior... |
| 08:01.17 | Diao | they already had it nerfed before |
| 08:01.24 | Diao | they just unnerfed it on accident last patch |
| 08:01.26 | Diao | lol |
| 08:01.26 | demilenos | 1 time 3hit, 2000 2000 2000 thx |
| 08:01.46 | demilenos | :/ |
| 08:01.53 | demilenos | gogo fury |
| 08:02.16 | Pkekyo | blizzard are fucktards |
| 08:02.36 | demilenos | they hate shamen |
| 08:03.00 | Pkekyo | shamans? take a look at the warrior patch history! |
| 08:03.05 | Benumbed | look closer and you will see they hate paladin more |
| 08:03.33 | Benumbed | and i play shaman, so not saying that cause i play paladin |
| 08:03.57 | Arrowmaster | its this thing called balance, when something is overpowered you slower give it small nerfs over time to adjust it down to where it should be |
| 08:04.19 | Arrowmaster | or you listen to the cry babies and do what they want you to |
| 08:04.46 | Benumbed | or buff others slightly, makes ppl think wow look what i am getting |
| 08:04.48 | Benumbed | win win |
| 08:04.56 | Benumbed | dont see paladin needed the nerf but shrug |
| 08:05.02 | Xerophyte | *rolls eyes*, yes, obviously the dev team has personal vendettas against [insert class] and wishes nothing more than to cause [class] suffering. Sheesh. You can disagree with the balance changes, 'course, but that's all they're intended to be |
| 08:05.15 | Pkekyo | can you honestly say warriors have been overpowered recently? :> |
| 08:05.21 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:05.23 | Arrowmaster | still are |
| 08:05.27 | Benumbed | command shout exploit? |
| 08:06.31 | Pkekyo | according to blizz it was not by definition an exploit, but "clever use of game mechanics" - also, they nerfed that, as bloodrage no longer triggers combat... also: wth does that have to do with swordspecc? |
| 08:06.50 | Arrowmaster | i blame the blacksmithing weapons mostly though, but i know it would be the same anyway just take longer for all the warrior to get the weapons without blacksmithing |
| 08:06.52 | demilenos | balance issue call so many words asap, that seens all around world |
| 08:07.15 | Xerophyte | They're the primary tank class while about par with rogues for dps in pve, and MS remains a cornerstone of every succesful 5-man pvp team I know of. In addition, they're the weakest solo class. They need tweaking here and there, like everyone else |
| 08:07.54 | Arrowmaster | wow needs more skills that arent useable on players |
| 08:07.58 | Pkekyo | sure...2-3k MS crits are overpowered like hell, but 5-6k pyroblasts are just fine, gogo balance :> |
| 08:08.06 | Arrowmaster | 2-3k? |
| 08:08.10 | Arrowmaster | try 4-5k |
| 08:08.18 | Pkekyo | never seen one |
| 08:08.26 | Arrowmaster | get hit with them all the time |
| 08:08.39 | Aenslaed | 5-6k pyroblasts? if its ap pom pyro, thats their only move |
| 08:08.48 | Aenslaed | its not coming up again that fight |
| 08:08.50 | Arrowmaster | and pyro also has a cast time |
| 08:08.52 | Xerophyte | As for the "buff others instead" argument, whishful thinking. Either spend 10 minutes implementing a negative balance change for one class or 10 hours buffing all other classes and every mob in the game; most likely breaking something else in the process |
| 08:08.59 | Aenslaed | all at the cost of ice block, which is a deathwish for any mage |
| 08:09.13 | Pkekyo | Arrowmaster: let me guess...t2 arena + t2/3 BS weapons? |
| 08:09.29 | Diao | 4-5k ms is practically impossible |
| 08:09.33 | Arrowmaster | i was getting hit with 4k+ ms crits before season 2 came out |
| 08:09.48 | demilenos | 5k is impossible i think |
| 08:09.49 | Diao | maybe before deathwish+enrage nerf |
| 08:09.53 | Aenslaed | in the arena, warriors put out great damage, but its still the entire package which makes them so good. |
| 08:10.07 | demilenos | 4k maybe possible |
| 08:10.19 | Aenslaed | hamstring/PH, MS, fear immunity |
| 08:10.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah was probably still when deathwish and enrage stacked for some of them |
| 08:10.30 | Aenslaed | intercept, pummel |
| 08:11.13 | Aenslaed | the only other class that even approaches that, are hunters |
| 08:11.27 | Aenslaed | cept hunters run out of mana too quickly in arena. |
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| 08:13.50 | demilenos | recklessness.. |
| 08:14.34 | Diao | cannot be used in arena |
| 08:14.40 | Pkekyo | problems with warriors is |
| 08:14.55 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r43762 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 08:14.55 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 08:14.55 | CIA-22 | - Loot improvements |
| 08:15.07 | demilenos | pvp is not equal to arena |
| 08:15.15 | Pkekyo | blizzard can't seem to understand that they have to pace the itemization of us and make us scale less with gear |
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| 08:15.36 | Benumbed | think the problem is that every class needs nerf but what class xxx person plays |
| 08:15.56 | demilenos | lol |
| 08:15.58 | Pkekyo | tbh....the highest damage I've done (execute excluded), was a 6k heroic strike... |
| 08:16.05 | Pkekyo | -and that was fully raidbuffed on curator >.< |
| 08:16.17 | demilenos | make us scale less with gear... interesting |
| 08:16.53 | Pkekyo | the only reason warriors keep getting nerfed is that we scale very well with gear, and blizzard keeps giving us fucking imba gear |
| 08:17.36 | Pkekyo | then some guy in full arena set and t3 blacksmith weapons comes and oneshots a clothie with 5k health, and the whinefest starts....a few days or weeks later, warriors have been nerfed yet again... |
| 08:18.11 | Xerophyte | They've taken steps in that direction - rage normalisation from attacks, earlier the Bloodthirst change to being an ap-based instant. Detaching warrior damage from gear basically means reworking the rage system groun up, though, which is hardly something to be done lightly |
| 08:18.23 | demilenos | is there a mage user with using dr.damage? |
| 08:18.24 | Aenslaed | yeah, as long as abilities like mortal strike are weapon damage + static amount, it'll always scale disproportionately |
| 08:18.32 | Arrowmaster | no executes on players, i'd like to see how that would workout |
| 08:19.16 | Benumbed | was executed for 8500 right before patch went live to fix the stacking |
| 08:19.27 | Pkekyo | about 60% of the damage execute gives in pvp is a fucking waste anyways |
| 08:19.27 | Diao | nerfing gear swap |
| 08:19.33 | Diao | nerfs warriors |
| 08:19.36 | Diao | :P |
| 08:19.44 | Benumbed | i barely had 8500 health, more less having 8500 left at 20% |
| 08:20.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah but if youve got rage to waste, anybody you fight perty much has 20% less health |
| 08:20.11 | Pkekyo | Benumbed: how much hp do you have at 20%? 800hp? |
| 08:20.23 | Diao | i generally don't bother with execute |
| 08:20.32 | Diao | unless i'm about to die |
| 08:20.37 | cncfanatics | can anyone at all checkout flexbar2, do the /fb slashcommand and tell me why waterfall goes crazy over it ?? |
| 08:20.40 | Diao | if i have excess rage i'd rather drop another MS and have extra rage for the next target |
| 08:20.41 | Pkekyo | soeh....800 damage of the 8500k execute actually hurt you...OMG 800 DAMAGE! NERF! NERF! |
| 08:21.09 | Benumbed | did i say nerf moron? |
| 08:21.14 | Benumbed | was just saying |
| 08:21.30 | Arrowmaster | they also made victory rush too powerful imho |
| 08:21.39 | Pkekyo | just pointing out, moron, that high damage executes means jack shit |
| 08:21.55 | Diao | VR is just a bloodthirst |
| 08:21.58 | Pkekyo | 611 damage? |
| 08:22.07 | Benumbed | correct me if wrong, ppl was talking about dmg, and executes...so i just said what i had saw |
| 08:22.22 | demilenos | hey 20% of 8500 = 1700 |
| 08:22.32 | Arrowmaster | i know a warrior that says victory rush is too powerful |
| 08:22.46 | Diao | it's powerful when you are geared and able to get killing blows |
| 08:23.09 | Arrowmaster | he uses execute, he always gets killing blows |
| 08:23.44 | Arrowmaster | then a bunch of rage from the victory rush and the hit from his 2h axe that follows it |
| 08:23.52 | Benumbed | guildie in guild refuses to execute on players |
| 08:24.03 | Benumbed | says he gets more dmg/crit on MS so doesnt bother |
| 08:24.12 | Diao | wait what |
| 08:24.14 | Diao | you don't get rage |
| 08:24.15 | Diao | from VR |
| 08:24.16 | Xerophyte | VR is yellow, so no rage |
| 08:24.33 | Aenslaed | Pkekyo: well, in full arena gear, alot of classes have 12-14k hp. That execute at 20% now means 2.4-3k hp |
| 08:24.41 | Aenslaed | so those big executes actually mean something again |
| 08:24.49 | Diao | execute usually hits for like 1k |
| 08:24.50 | Diao | lol |
| 08:24.56 | Diao | unless you're at full rage |
| 08:25.16 | Aenslaed | back when people had 4k hp, seeing 4k executes were indeed pointless, but 4k executes are actually meaningful in arena now |
| 08:25.40 | demilenos | yes i agree |
| 08:26.09 | Aenslaed | one of the hunters in my guild has 17k hp in his arena gear, his sole job is to tank warriors |
| 08:26.17 | demilenos | even my raidmate mage had 12k hp... |
| 08:26.52 | Pkekyo | only place I've seen 4k executes are at curator....it doesn't happen in 'real life'....and when you're decked in arena epics, you sure as hell ought to be expecting your opponents to be a little dangerous too... |
| 08:26.57 | cncfanatics | I got 12k hp in my tank gear -.- |
| 08:27.07 | Pkekyo | same |
| 08:27.33 | demilenos | survivalist and endurance traing is very good.. |
| 08:28.16 | Pkekyo | appprox how much hp does a warr have in arena gear? |
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| 08:28.22 | Benumbed | i got executed on my porch for 4001 dmg in 'real life' |
| 08:28.58 | demilenos | lol cncfanatics, |
| 08:29.06 | Pkekyo | too bad they didn't off you completely... |
| 08:29.23 | demilenos | go 25p raid ;) |
| 08:29.24 | Aenslaed | Pkekyo: i have a screenshot from a few months after initial release of a 5k execute |
| 08:29.37 | Aenslaed | Pkekyo: at L60. I dont know how you haven't gotten those insane execute crits |
| 08:29.39 | Aenslaed | http://aenslaed.mizery.net/images/WoW/0222exec4901.jpg |
| 08:29.39 | Benumbed | yeah i know, tell me about it...then i wouldnt be here to listen to this garbage |
| 08:30.06 | Benumbed | 4k execute is easy to pull off |
| 08:30.19 | demilenos | i horrored when i saw it |
| 08:30.32 | Pkekyo | initial release of WoW? |
| 08:30.35 | Pkekyo | or TBC? |
| 08:30.35 | Xerophyte | *shrug*, there are screenies of 18k executes at L60 in moderately engineered circumstances (enrage + death wish, critting on a warrior in 'serker stance with recklessness going) |
| 08:30.46 | Aenslaed | Pkekyo: yeah, that screenshot is from december |
| 08:30.50 | Aenslaed | initial release, not tbc |
| 08:30.52 | Diao | don't forget berserker |
| 08:30.54 | Diao | from bgs |
| 08:32.29 | Xerophyte | As I said, moderately engineered. You can go higher if you want your target to grab silithid debuffs from Feralas or the like ... point is, you get big numbers with the right combination of buffs & debuffs. |
| 08:32.31 | demilenos | 18k is insane but useless- |
| 08:32.40 | Diao | it would be nice |
| 08:32.47 | Diao | in pve |
| 08:32.48 | Diao | lol |
| 08:32.50 | demilenos | very nice |
| 08:32.53 | demilenos | :) |
| 08:33.08 | Diao | i saw an amusing suggestion |
| 08:33.28 | Diao | some mage or something wanted to have MS do zero damage and have no healing debuff |
| 08:33.35 | Diao | instead it just removes 10% of your max hp per hit, stacking up to 5x |
| 08:33.37 | Diao | lol |
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| 08:33.51 | Aenslaed | poorly thought out |
| 08:33.53 | Benumbed | that seems worse |
| 08:34.02 | Diao | i'd love it |
| 08:34.06 | demilenos | in memory, we cant get down vaela without excute |
| 08:34.37 | demilenos | warriors always go to heaven in DM |
| 08:34.57 | Pkekyo | DM? |
| 08:35.22 | demilenos | damagemeter |
| 08:35.47 | Xerophyte | http://server3.uploadit.org/files/basmane-ExecuteRecord.jpg - heh, even found the old screenie. I exagerrated quite a bit, 15k |
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| 08:38.23 | Diao | that's even more set up than the ss of the 12k soulfire by some lock in bg |
| 08:38.23 | Diao | lol |
| 08:38.25 | Diao | at level 60 |
| 08:38.29 | demilenos | enrage death wish.. |
| 08:39.06 | demilenos | it has too long loading time ^^; |
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| 08:39.19 | demilenos | oh 3minute; |
| 08:39.52 | Xerophyte | 'course it's set up, I think they've even got old-style Bloodthirst in there. It's sorta beside the point though: every once in a while the buffs and debuffs match, the moons align and Execute produces a really, really big number |
| 08:40.12 | Xerophyte | It's a fun excecise to see how high you can get |
| 08:40.21 | demilenos | diao, that warlock get buff from succu? |
| 08:40.56 | Diao | uhh |
| 08:40.59 | Diao | succ only affects shadow dmg |
| 08:41.00 | Diao | not fire |
| 08:41.17 | Pkekyo | anyone here familiar with craftslist? |
| 08:41.34 | Diao | i use cl2 |
| 08:41.50 | Mikk | yes |
| 08:42.01 | Pkekyo | is it impossible to use it on several chars? (my tailor gives out blacksmithing info?!) |
| 08:42.07 | demilenos | hmm |
| 08:42.11 | Diao | you can disable it |
| 08:42.14 | Diao | from checking your alts |
| 08:42.20 | Diao | it's in the options somewhere |
| 08:42.34 | Mikk | Pkekyo: most people find that a good thing |
| 08:42.40 | demilenos | is there a fire mage? |
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| 08:43.16 | demilenos | i had problem with dr.damage |
| 08:44.05 | demilenos | ~seen unrealii |
| 08:44.07 | purl | unrealii is currently on #wowace (4h 29m 17s), last said: '¤Ë'. |
| 08:44.36 | demilenos | '¤Ë' cute guy |
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| 08:45.02 | Pkekyo | mikk: how so? I'm trying to give information for what my tailor can make, not my blacksmith >.< |
| 08:45.12 | demilenos | ~seen blackarrow |
| 08:45.13 | purl | blackarrow <~hamish@c210-49-222-86.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 924d 4h 46m 12s ago, saying: 'anyone know how to unbreak debconf when it says "Configuration database "configdb" was not initialized." ??'. |
| 08:45.39 | demilenos | debian.. |
| 08:46.03 | Mikk | Pkekyo: well, in a guild, you want to be able to do "/g !craft something" and find out who can do it, on the char they're on, or if they relog |
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| 08:47.02 | Pkekyo | well...I'm trying to sell stuff here...and I'm a tailor...someone types !craft waist, and get spammed with thorium girdle and whatnot... |
| 08:48.37 | Mikk | well.. disable alt scanning |
| 08:48.52 | Athou | /clist menu and uncheck Blacksmithing in Active Professions |
| 08:49.25 | Mikk | Athou: btw, would you mind if I LoadManager:AddonLoader'ed CL2? |
| 08:49.49 | Mikk | Makes the initial loading process faster |
| 08:50.09 | Athou | nope, but what event would you use to LoD it ? |
| 08:50.22 | Mikk | delayed load after login |
| 08:50.34 | Mikk | AddonLoader can load LoDable addons on a timer after login |
| 08:50.57 | Mikk | Pretty useful for those non-critical addons that you don't really need the first few seconds after login |
| 08:51.15 | Athou | then sure, go ahead :) |
| 08:51.19 | Pkekyo | Athou: my version does not have that function |
| 08:51.29 | Mikk | update then |
| 08:51.47 | Mikk | it's been in there for quite some time |
| 08:53.18 | Pkekyo | I tend to not update addons untill absolutely nessesary, as I'm customizing alot of them |
| 08:53.51 | Pkekyo | updates always screw up my entire UI :< |
| 08:55.28 | Pkekyo | how do I update Clist 2? |
| 08:55.40 | Mikk | ... |
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| 08:55.50 | Mikk | guess? |
| 08:55.56 | Athou | :D |
| 08:55.58 | Pkekyo | I mean how do I update it with my proffestions? |
| 08:56.23 | Mikk | happens automatically when you open the profession windows |
| 08:57.35 | Pkekyo | yes it does! |
| 09:00.41 | demilenos | delayed load after login<- good idea |
| 09:00.54 | Mikk | yus |
| 09:00.59 | demilenos | i have to go apply it :) |
| 09:01.20 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r43764 10CraftList2/CraftList2.toc: |
| 09:01.20 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 09:01.20 | CIA-22 | - Delayed load after login via AddonLoader |
| 09:01.27 | demilenos | ... |
| 09:02.38 | Punkie` | Mikk is crafty! |
| 09:02.43 | demilenos | u may james bond |
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| 09:08.48 | Mikk | Of course, Athou being such a splendid chap and agreeing to all my suggestions so far just makes me even happier :-)) |
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| 09:14.48 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r43765 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 09:14.48 | CIA-22 | CandyBar: |
| 09:14.48 | CIA-22 | - Some size optimizations |
| 09:14.48 | CIA-22 | - Add :SetOnSizeGroup() callback - useful if you want to adjust a window based on current group size |
| 09:14.48 | CIA-22 | - Reduce update speed for bars with >11 secs to go -- a dozen bars running at |
| 09:14.49 | CIA-22 | full speed do produce a measurable CPU crunch when updated every frame. Possibly |
| 09:14.53 | CIA-22 | a part of the load is just forcing excessive frame system updates due to the |
| 09:17.42 | ckknight | hey all |
| 09:17.52 | Mikk | 'lo |
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| 09:19.01 | seba | hey |
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| 09:22.28 | demilenos | hi |
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| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | oRA2: |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | - Use core window handler for CoolDown Monitor |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | - Size window according to candybar group height (prep for sticky handling in the future) |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | - Yank out some copypaste leftovers that were never ever used (cooldown monitor doesn't have a text field in the window!) |
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| 09:28.27 | nevcairiel | Sure it does! :) |
| 09:28.34 | Mikk | orly? :P |
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| 09:29.55 | demilenos | :) |
| 09:29.59 | Sole | hey guys |
| 09:30.09 | Sole | so I just saw harry potter and the order of the phoenix |
| 09:30.13 | Mikk | shut up |
| 09:30.20 | Sole | why |
| 09:30.23 | demilenos | .. |
| 09:30.25 | Mikk | no spoiling :P |
| 09:30.31 | Sole | can I say 3 words? |
| 09:30.38 | Mikk | depends :P |
| 09:30.42 | Sole | aww man |
| 09:30.46 | nevcairiel | shall i post the resumee of the book ? :P |
| 09:31.02 | demilenos | sorry |
| 09:31.02 | Sole | Im a harry potter fan |
| 09:31.05 | Mikk | "it was awesome" is ok.. "he didn't die" isn't :P |
| 09:31.09 | Sole | the fifth book was great for a novel |
| 09:31.14 | nevcairiel | he doesnt die in the movie |
| 09:31.19 | Sole | but damn the movie felt like a fast forward |
| 09:31.36 | Mikk | yeah movies tend to do that when you've read the book :/ |
| 09:31.41 | Sole | and changing fucking core plot elements is just STUPID |
| 09:31.53 | Sole | I dont know what the hell the director and screenwriter were thinking |
| 09:32.01 | nevcairiel | there are like 2 more books which havent been filmed yet, so no, harry doesnt die in the movie .. i can tell you hat without knowing it at all =P |
| 09:32.04 | Sole | they couldve made it 20 minutes longer and had it pretty accurate to the novel |
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| 09:43.41 | CIA-22 | WindowLib: |
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| 10:31.11 | Pkekyo | jesus titty fucking christ...a warrior in my guild has NEVER used a shield... (lvl 70) |
| 10:31.11 | Pkekyo | also has a resto shammy, but refuses to use it to help the guild in kara... "what for to take epics for heal? im in a pvp server" |
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| 10:32.06 | Thelyna | does he ride the short bus to preschool? |
| 10:32.47 | Fisker- | Pkekyo there was a level 70 warrior asking on the GM forums how he could get his defensive stance quest |
| 10:32.57 | Fisker- | and a level 70 warlock asking for his felhunter quest |
| 10:32.57 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 10:33.27 | Pkekyo | speaking to this guy about trying to get the guild started in kara makes me die a little inside every second that pass |
| 10:34.47 | Awaa | AtlasLoot\Constants\constants.de.lua:61 '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3) near '|' |
| 10:36.11 | Pkekyo | but sereously... "what for to take epics for heal? im in a pvp server"?! |
| 10:36.17 | Pkekyo | how the hell did this guy get to lvl 70?! |
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| 10:40.42 | Xyphor | Sphere does not show any menu anymore |
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| 10:48.15 | Slayman | hey fellows! |
| 10:49.20 | Slayman | anyone knows, if there's anything to look for while using MyMedia in SharedMedia with pitbull? like specific restrictions to certain fonts? |
| 10:53.49 | Slayman | no worries, me juts 2 stupid ! |
| 10:54.45 | Pkekyo | whaa? |
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| 11:03.02 | break19 | man... I sooo need to make a character called woodlow or somethin... that way I could log in, and people could say "mornin wood" :p |
| 11:03.15 | Pkekyo | true or false: you MUST be prot specced to tank heroics |
| 11:03.49 | Athou_ | is it possible to execute protected functions with a fubarplugin ? when clicking on a line for example |
| 11:04.14 | break19 | Pkekyo: btw.. that 70 war that didnt have defensive stance.... there was one on my server..... |
| 11:04.23 | Jaxon | Pkekyo: partially true. Full prot is excessive for most heroics since your tanking involves multiple mobs, things like slam and devastate are a bit wasted. |
| 11:04.34 | break19 | "I guess I missed that quest lol, where do I get it?" |
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| 11:05.04 | break19 | jax. my 50 war is full prot, everything else will be going into fury.. |
| 11:05.26 | break19 | and his nickname "the survivor" heh |
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| 11:06.21 | Pkekyo | so basically..I couldn't tank heroics without points in prot..? |
| 11:06.45 | break19 | a friend of mine has a 52 prot pally. and he's the only 50ish char I know that can take more damage... but tankadins just dont work in some places.. |
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| 11:07.50 | break19 | Pkekyo: if you respec.. for the love of god, PLEASE make sure you're trained up in the 1hwep you decide to use... |
| 11:08.09 | Dustwhisper | i wish our warrior or dru tanks could tank morogrim |
| 11:08.19 | Dustwhisper | they die every single time 1 healer gets graved |
| 11:08.31 | Pkekyo | break19: been offtanking for ages :> |
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| 11:08.44 | break19 | I tried to run sethekk regular last night.. as I start markin, the war says "btw, I just respecd to prot from arms. my 1h skill is a bit low" |
| 11:08.57 | break19 | so turns out it was prolly 1/350 |
| 11:09.08 | break19 | he couldnt hit a damn thing :/ |
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| 11:10.10 | Pkekyo | hahaha |
| 11:10.17 | break19 | I added the guy to my friend list, with a note: moron, dont group EVER |
| 11:10.43 | Pkekyo | ftw |
| 11:11.09 | Pkekyo | "I would NEVER heal a non-prot warr in heroic" >.< |
| 11:11.40 | Pkekyo | "waste of mana" |
| 11:12.05 | break19 | I usually have pretty good luck with pugs, our guild is mostly casual and they're all good people, but ... |
| 11:12.29 | Matrix110 | whats the problem with not being prot for a heroic Oo? |
| 11:12.41 | break19 | prot = meatier shield :p |
| 11:12.44 | Matrix110 | I made like all heroics i did with a non prot specced warrior |
| 11:12.56 | Pkekyo | yeah, I'm saying the same thing... |
| 11:13.32 | break19 | you prolly *can* do it without prot wars, but just takes a really good healer |
| 11:13.47 | Pkekyo | I'm fucking immune to crits, got almost 40% dodge+parry and 16-17% block and 13k hp....shouldn't be too hard on the healer tbh |
| 11:14.36 | break19 | Pkekyo: not bad |
| 11:14.42 | Thelyna | it's not really about the healer |
| 11:14.50 | Thelyna | but being not-prot sucks for tanking |
| 11:15.01 | vhaarr | depends on the instance |
| 11:15.02 | Thelyna | you just don't get as much threat |
| 11:15.07 | vhaarr | I'd never go to shattered halls with a nonprot |
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| 11:15.25 | Thelyna | I'd never do SH without a paladin tanking, but that's just me |
| 11:15.46 | Thelyna | although I'm sure there are prot warriors out there that can do it |
| 11:15.50 | Pkekyo | so basically...I've gotta respecc every time I wanna go to an instance? |
| 11:16.10 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 11:16.37 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 25m 25s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 11:16.37 | break19 | one of our best wars is up to 50g a respec.. :p |
| 11:17.02 | Pkekyo | break19: I've been at 50g since before I hit 70 |
| 11:17.06 | break19 | heh |
| 11:17.50 | Thelyna | lowest I've been in the last year is 45g |
| 11:18.00 | break19 | Pkekyo: I dont usually respec much... my rogue is the black sheep of that tho... I've tried all 3 lines, PLUS 2 or 3 different hybrid versions... |
| 11:19.38 | cncfanatics | SH is a paladin playground tbh :p |
| 11:19.51 | break19 | my two highest are a 65 huntard and 70 rogue... the hunt's been respecd 3x.. levelled as BM, around 50ish I went marks, was "blah" went back to BM by 60.. started missing my tsa went back to marks |
| 11:20.20 | Pkekyo | I can't afford respeccing all the time, I've got other shit to spend my gold on >.< |
| 11:20.48 | break19 | Pkekyo: heh.. my wife takes care of that :p |
| 11:21.01 | break19 | I earn the RL money, she earns the wow money.. works out great :) |
| 11:21.27 | Dustwhisper | he Thelyna |
| 11:21.32 | Dustwhisper | we went heroic SH with warrior every time |
| 11:21.33 | Dustwhisper | was np |
| 11:21.53 | Dustwhisper | one time our warrior was holding 6 of the elites at the same time =D np |
| 11:22.52 | break19 | she cant work cuz she's high-risk pregnancy... so she grabs her 70 hunter and away she goes on the elemental plateau. heh |
| 11:24.34 | break19 | she's even gotten reported for botting (lol).. cuz she'll just farm one spot over and over and over for HOURS.. once she gets a good blue drop, she may move over to twilight ridge and grind for cobrascales |
| 11:24.52 | BankZ | So, did they deside agaist killing the .Net version of WAU? |
| 11:25.14 | break19 | well.. someone wants to SH.. so I'll bbl |
| 11:30.07 | BankZ | "Error1Unable to find manifest signing certificate in the certificate store.WowAceUpdater |
| 11:30.52 | BankZ | looks like you need a password for WAU |
| 11:30.59 | BankZ | to compile |
| 11:33.54 | sylvanaar | you need to disable signing |
| 11:35.40 | BankZ | where do you do that? |
| 11:35.49 | Fin | I still find it weird that WAU is actually using IE to do all sorts of shit, because of .NET and how MS has IE mashed into everything |
| 11:35.49 | sylvanaar | project options |
| 11:36.47 | sylvanaar | how is it wierd - it makes perfect sense |
| 11:36.50 | Tornhoof | hmm fin, rather both ie and net use the same methods ;) |
| 11:36.50 | BankZ | i got it, the ClickOnce stuff |
| 11:37.44 | Fin | why is IE even part of .NET? |
| 11:37.50 | Tornhoof | it isn't |
| 11:38.24 | Fin | why when I turn off options in IE does it affect WAU, then? |
| 11:39.05 | Tornhoof | because both are using the same api |
| 11:39.07 | Fin | if IE isn't *technically* part of .NET, then whatver the situation is, it seems like it has something wrong with it |
| 11:39.14 | sylvanaar | .net obeys your system settings |
| 11:39.35 | Tornhoof | .net is basically just a wrapper and a framework to already existing windows api |
| 11:39.45 | Tornhoof | that includes the api used and described by ie |
| 11:40.58 | sylvanaar | um |
| 11:41.02 | Tornhoof | .net implements one version of the wininet api |
| 11:41.09 | Tornhoof | and wininet.dll is a different one |
| 11:41.12 | Fin | so there's only one set of config variables, the system's? or multiple layers? or neither application has implemented multiple layers? |
| 11:41.37 | Tornhoof | multiple layers |
| 11:41.40 | sylvanaar | IE is part of the OS when installed |
| 11:42.10 | Fin | OK, I didn't quite get that about .NET then |
| 11:42.22 | Fin | that it's basically a Windows API |
| 11:42.40 | Tornhoof | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-US/library/aa383630.aspx basically for wininet |
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| 11:43.15 | Fin | I don't know if I would've chosen to develop something that wasn't specifically focused on |
| 11:43.39 | Fin | +MS Windows itself (like a process viewer or sysmonitor or something) in .NET |
| 11:43.44 | Fin | I'm sure there are good reasons though |
| 11:44.01 | Tornhoof | you can develop a process monitor in .net |
| 11:44.12 | Fin | also I am a bit anti-MS, I might be letting my bias get in the way |
| 11:44.12 | Tornhoof | since the framework already implements the necessary api |
| 11:44.24 | Tornhoof | or just use unsafe code |
| 11:45.15 | Tornhoof | .net is just a framework, nothing more |
| 11:45.37 | Fin | from my experience MS Windows *is* unsafe code |
| 11:45.43 | Tornhoof | no |
| 11:46.25 | sylvanaar | its not true - its just got the highest return for an exlpoiter's effort |
| 11:46.31 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 11:46.31 | Fin | I've had a fair bit of experience - and I know it's possible to avoid getting my point if you like when expressed that way |
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| 11:47.14 | Tornhoof | microsoft has the bad habit to allow client software side patches to be integrated into the main os |
| 11:47.19 | Tornhoof | for compatibility reasons |
| 11:47.31 | Tornhoof | to get some 10 year old crappy win9x application running on xp |
| 11:47.33 | Tornhoof | etc. |
| 11:47.44 | Fin | I've spent more time fiddling around with my Windows XP boxes than I have with FreeBSD, Linux, and other boxes |
| 11:47.46 | Tornhoof | coz it's ibm or oracle or their own shit (office) |
| 11:48.05 | sylvanaar | linux = compile your kernel ... no matter what, all roads eventually lead there |
| 11:48.06 | Fin | (professionally and for my own interest) |
| 11:48.22 | Tornhoof | the linux kernel isn't better or worse than windows |
| 11:48.36 | Tornhoof | it's as buggy, as badly/good written |
| 11:48.38 | sylvanaar | it just has users who love it |
| 11:48.46 | Fin | I consider MS Windows unsafe code |
| 11:48.49 | Tornhoof | it is not |
| 11:48.53 | Fin | it is |
| 11:48.54 | phirephly | "Better" isn't a technical term. |
| 11:49.01 | sylvanaar | and windows users dont have that zeal |
| 11:49.07 | Fin | I don't want to argue about it; let's just agree to disagree |
| 11:49.10 | Fisker- | they have me :( |
| 11:49.22 | Tornhoof | take a look at that old win2k leaked source code |
| 11:49.24 | phirephly | And "buggy" in linux is open to anyone to find and fix. |
| 11:49.28 | Tornhoof | coding wise it's very clean |
| 11:49.34 | Fisker- | or exploit phirephly |
| 11:49.42 | Tornhoof | just some fugly hacks to support old applications |
| 11:49.52 | Fisker- | Tornhoof yeah and linux zealots use the fact that it has swearwords to diss it |
| 11:50.00 | Tornhoof | yeh so what |
| 11:50.03 | Fisker- | Then someone had some "decency" monitor made for the linux kernel |
| 11:50.04 | phirephly | Still, open, endless peer review keeps that sort of nonsense to a pretty low level. |
| 11:50.08 | Tornhoof | who cares about swearwords ;) |
| 11:50.10 | Fisker- | And there were like 3000 counts of fuck in the code |
| 11:50.10 | Fisker- | :P |
| 11:50.16 | Fin | it's unlikely that anyone is going to provide any new ways of expressing this really old argument, we can just skip to hitler and fuck you if you like |
| 11:50.38 | phirephly | I had a job at Aflac for a while filtering "objectionable" words from their very long alphanumeric account numbers. |
| 11:50.45 | Fin | like fuck? |
| 11:50.52 | phirephly | 134FUCK2345 could have come up, for instance. |
| 11:50.58 | Tornhoof | nice :D |
| 11:51.03 | Fin | wow |
| 11:51.05 | Fin | what a job |
| 11:51.20 | Fin | I think perhaps the human race is also unsafe code |
| 11:51.27 | phirephly | I had to have special clearance from their net-nanny software to keep from getting in trouble with HR because I kept the list of objectionable words there for testing. |
| 11:51.31 | Fisker- | you are unsafe code Fin :( |
| 11:51.34 | Thelyna | lol |
| 11:51.40 | Tornhoof | anyway fin, unsafe code in .net sense is something different |
| 11:51.48 | Thelyna | phirephly: couldn't they have done that with a program? |
| 11:51.48 | Fin | I'm safer than most people, I have no intention of killing anyone |
| 11:52.12 | Fisker- | i only kill for the safekeeping of other peopel |
| 11:52.13 | Fisker- | people |
| 11:52.16 | phirephly | They did, and I wrote the program, but we still had to have a repository of the words in cleartext somewhere. |
| 11:52.18 | Fisker- | OH LAWD WAS THAT SOME GPL PWNAGE? |
| 11:52.19 | Thelyna | list of unsafe words + list of account identifiers + string.find = win? |
| 11:52.24 | Fin | Tornhoof: sorry but *that* was just silly, no offence - but you are taking my statement, that I consider ms windows unsafe code, and telling me that in that sense it's something very different to what I said and how I meant? |
| 11:52.29 | Pkekyo | if you'd have to choose between Shield Spec (+5% block and 1rage per blocked) or Toughness (10% more armor) - which one would you choose? |
| 11:52.29 | Fin | I don't think you can actually do that, mate |
| 11:52.51 | Tornhoof | no fin, in .NET and c# there is something specific called unsafe {} |
| 11:52.57 | Tornhoof | to support things like pointers |
| 11:53.05 | sylvanaar | its a keyword in the language |
| 11:53.09 | Fisker- | do want to know |
| 11:53.11 | sylvanaar | is what he means |
| 11:53.14 | Thelyna | Pkekyo: shield spec |
| 11:53.25 | Thelyna | since you need it for imp. shield block |
| 11:53.28 | Tornhoof | <_Haldir> or just use unsafe code is refered to that part unsafe {} |
| 11:53.30 | Fin | was that just a trivia point? if so I apologise |
| 11:53.55 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TVZVVumxxoVzVofVzoh valid specc, youthink? |
| 11:54.09 | Tornhoof | unsafe in .net has nothing to do with safe it just allows certain things like pointers to be used, which aren't allowed otherwise |
| 11:54.40 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: block, since it prevents crushings |
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| 11:55.11 | Fin | yes, I get what this was referring to, thanks :) did you point it out just as a bit of trivia? |
| 11:55.21 | Fin | not that that's a bad thing |
| 11:55.25 | Tornhoof | no to implement a process monitor |
| 11:55.32 | Thelyna | Pkekyo: what's your defense at? |
| 11:55.42 | Tornhoof | you'll need to either use the supported stuff or use unsafe code to call windows api |
| 11:55.43 | Fin | it's just not how I took it, and I wanted to check that I was wrong |
| 11:55.46 | Pkekyo | 489 |
| 11:55.47 | Thelyna | if you're not crit immune, anticipation > bloodrage/tac mastery |
| 11:56.03 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: and you didn't skill those 3% hit. |
| 11:56.12 | Fin | oh never mind :) |
| 11:56.17 | Pkekyo | it's ONE defense point, and some gear will make up for that real soon, so I didn't htink it was any point |
| 11:56.34 | Pkekyo | dRaCo: I allready have 9% hit which should be sufficient enough |
| 11:56.49 | [dRaCo] | nope. |
| 11:56.59 | [dRaCo] | at least not as dw |
| 11:57.08 | Pkekyo | how much then? 12? 15? |
| 11:57.10 | [dRaCo] | drop imp. cleave and get +hit |
| 11:57.20 | Tornhoof | dw warrior? |
| 11:57.22 | Tornhoof | 18+hit |
| 11:57.24 | Fin | bet that's my MS prejudice |
| 11:57.25 | Tornhoof | % |
| 11:57.36 | Pkekyo | 18%? whatever you're smoking, I want some! |
| 11:57.50 | Jaxon | 20% is a nice dw Fury goal. |
| 11:57.56 | Pkekyo | you ARE aware of how you'd have to gimp all your other stats to get 18% fucking hit? |
| 11:58.02 | Tornhoof | lol? |
| 11:58.06 | Tornhoof | wait a sec |
| 11:58.09 | Jaxon | I don't think he gets it. |
| 11:58.11 | Fin | armory it or it didn't happen |
| 11:58.16 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43772 10SmartQueue/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 11:58.16 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 11:58.16 | CIA-22 | - Full deDe locale support. Many thanks to EnSabahNur and Bl4ckSh33p |
| 11:58.20 | phirephly | Is AceGUI reasonably compatible with Ace2? |
| 11:58.34 | [dRaCo] | shouldn't be that hard... there's a lot of +hit stuff out there |
| 11:58.49 | [dRaCo] | anyway, imp cleave < 3% hit. |
| 11:59.05 | Pkekyo | I have +hit on pretty much every goddamn item I have |
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| 11:59.35 | Tornhoof | so what sum it up |
| 11:59.42 | Tornhoof | 240 hitrating is mighty fine |
| 11:59.49 | Tornhoof | 200 is fine too including your 3% hit talent |
| 11:59.52 | phirephly | Any developers on? |
| 12:00.16 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: gief armory ;) |
| 12:00.48 | Jaxon | 310 hit http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Phailure |
| 12:00.50 | Fin | what's the deal with those new (are they new?) stats on the T6 gear, btw? "equip: 12 points of your target's armor will not |
| 12:00.53 | Fin | oops |
| 12:01.16 | Fin | just went to check the exact wording, damn enter key foiling my corrections! |
| 12:01.36 | [dRaCo] | nope, not new |
| 12:01.44 | [dRaCo] | check serrated blades, e.g. |
| 12:01.53 | Fin | what's the deal with those new (are they new?) stats on the T6 gear, btw? "equip: your attacks ignore 126 of your opponents armor"? |
| 12:01.56 | Tornhoof | reduced armor stuff is nothing new |
| 12:02.08 | Tornhoof | it's just more common now |
| 12:02.23 | Tornhoof | and it depends too much on the boss mob imho |
| 12:02.34 | Fin | I've not seen is as a permanent effect on armor before |
| 12:02.52 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that's kinda new. |
| 12:03.12 | Pkekyo | dRaCo: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodfeather&n=Baesj |
| 12:03.13 | Tornhoof | until you exactly know how much armor some mob has, it's kinda useless ;) |
| 12:03.32 | Fin | well... it's only useless if you want to know exactly how much armor he has left :) |
| 12:03.40 | Fin | it's still probably quite useful |
| 12:03.57 | Fin | cos you'll hit for more and stuff |
| 12:04.20 | Fin | what with your target seeming to have less armour than he actually does |
| 12:04.24 | Fin | +u above |
| 12:04.41 | Tornhoof | yes but until you don#t know how much it is |
| 12:04.46 | Tornhoof | it's kinda hard to rate |
| 12:05.09 | phirephly | So no developers on? |
| 12:05.22 | Fin | well, that's Blizzard's job I guess, to come up with new ways to fuck around with stats in ways that we have to figure out :) |
| 12:05.35 | Fin | nope, none here phirephly |
| 12:05.41 | Tornhoof | ah no phirephly, afaik acegui is not compatible with ace2 |
| 12:06.02 | Fin | there's a pretty easy way to find out... |
| 12:06.03 | phirephly | Okay. I wanted to check before I beat my head up against that particular wall. :) |
| 12:06.14 | Fin | fair enough |
| 12:06.21 | Tornhoof | I don't know of anyone using acegui for ages ;) |
| 12:06.23 | Fin | AceGUI hasn't been updated for yonks, has it? |
| 12:06.29 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r43773 10StellarBars/ (StellarBars.lua StellarBars.toc): |
| 12:06.29 | CIA-22 | StellarBars |
| 12:06.29 | CIA-22 | - alternative approach to blocking unwanted position changes |
| 12:06.29 | CIA-22 | - the above removes Jostle hook and should remove jittering (need more testing) |
| 12:06.31 | phirephly | Shows a june update |
| 12:06.42 | phirephly | I guess in software terms, that's "ages" :) |
| 12:06.52 | Fin | check the log files: http://files.wowace.com/AceGUI/ |
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| 12:07.12 | Fin | nah, I meant, like real term yonks / ages |
| 12:07.15 | phirephly | Yah, shows a june update. |
| 12:07.20 | Fin | well not *real* real terms |
| 12:07.26 | Fin | phirephly: I meant _read_ the logfiles |
| 12:07.30 | Fin | see what the actual update was |
| 12:07.41 | Fin | it might be just fixing line endings or a typo or something |
| 12:07.44 | phirephly | Oh. Spoilsport. :) |
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| 12:08.09 | phirephly | What do you folks usually do for GUI elements? |
| 12:08.15 | Fin | anyway, yeah, not *real* real terms, cos an age in real real terms would be far too long, and I don't know what a yonk is |
| 12:08.26 | Tornhoof | avoiding gui as much as possible ) |
| 12:08.27 | Fin | what do you do for GUI elements? |
| 12:08.31 | phirephly | It's the sound a goose makes? |
| 12:08.46 | Tornhoof | use waterfall for config |
| 12:08.56 | phirephly | Fin: I ask folks who know how. I'm very new at mod coding. |
| 12:09.17 | phirephly | Tornhoof: Waterfall is a GUI API? |
| 12:09.19 | Fin | phirephly: I don't even know what the question means |
| 12:10.02 | phirephly | Fin: Sorry 'bout that. |
| 12:10.24 | Fin | phirephly: no worries |
| 12:11.13 | phirephly | Fin: API= Application Programming Interface - Ace2 is a collection of APIs for various categories of tasks. |
| 12:11.22 | Fin | phirephly: do you do GUI stuff for other environments, out of interest? |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r43774 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (12 files in 10 dirs): |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-22 | - Changed Format to UTF-8 |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-22 | - Added some missing options to enUS.lua |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-22 | - Tweaks to various Modules |
| 12:11.48 | Tornhoof | waterfall is an easy way to get good looking config menus ;) |
| 12:12.11 | Mikk | phirephly: Waterfall is a library that can present an AceOptions table in a dialog |
| 12:12.17 | Mikk | It can do more than that too if you want to get advanced |
| 12:12.24 | phirephly | Fin: Yes and no. Nothing remotely PCish. I'm a mainframe programmer. I do CICS and backend stuff for GUI stuff that the web developers call (all they can do is paint the pretty pictures, all the real work goes on behind the scenes). |
| 12:13.43 | phirephly | So if you need a 40k line program to encapsulate all 50 states and 4200 local jurisdictional regulatory rules impact on an automobile policy, I can do that just fine and reduce it to 3 numbers that the web developer can then put in a pretty font and stick on an HTML document somewhere. |
| 12:13.44 | Fin | your question now makes a lot more sense |
| 12:13.58 | phirephly | BRB. Scratch pancakes are ready! Hmmmmmmmm. |
| 12:14.28 | Fin | Size:266 MB (279,969,102 bytes) |
| 12:14.28 | Fin | Size on disk:358 MB (376,291,328 bytes) |
| 12:14.29 | Fin | Contains:29,692 Files, 18480 Folders |
| 12:14.37 | Fin | ^ teh svn |
| 12:14.46 | Fin | surprisingly small, I though |
| 12:14.48 | Fin | +t |
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| 12:17.00 | phirephly | Back, sort of. I'm rolling between the dinner table and my PC desk. |
| 12:18.06 | Fin | is there a way to make SavedVariables LoadOnDemand? |
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| 12:18.29 | *** part/#wowace mitch1 (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-189-11.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 12:18.31 | Fin | so, the addon only loads the savedvariable file if it's enabled and needs to read a previous session's data, or something |
| 12:19.18 | Fin | phirephly: a good place to start if you want to learn about the Ace2 libs is http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ |
| 12:19.52 | Fin | you may already know this |
| 12:19.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin: not really afaik, but if you want to minimize the usage you could probably make one core and one database addon, and make the database addon LOD |
| 12:20.12 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: that's exactly the situation I was hoping to avoid :/ |
| 12:20.29 | Fin | and now I come to think of it, there's loads of addons that do exactly that |
| 12:20.41 | Fin | they probably wouldn't be doing that if you could make SavedVariables LoD |
| 12:22.17 | Fin | oh wow! they've got funky bits on msdn in Opera now |
| 12:23.25 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: thanks though! |
| 12:23.36 | sag_ich_nicht | np |
| 12:24.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not so much coding addons as debugging them(and then being an annoying pest about fixing the bugs), but with time you kind of learn about the structure behind it >_> |
| 12:25.04 | Fin | are you growing into it, or is it growing into you? |
| 12:25.32 | sag_ich_nicht | both >_> |
| 12:27.37 | sylvanaar | yeah, sv's are loaded when the toc load happens, but making a database addon separate isnt a bad idea |
| 12:29.07 | sylvanaar | i need an sv cleaner script |
| 12:29.26 | sylvanaar | i have sv's from cosmos |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r43775 10XPBarNone/embeds.xml: |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-22 | XPBarNone: |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-22 | - Fix SharedMediaLib directory name in embeds.xml. Really, why is that called 'SharedMediaLib' compared to all of the standard 'Library-1.0' names? |
| 12:30.38 | kbh | dont all the SVs from all the mods you use save on exit? |
| 12:30.45 | sylvanaar | why did you have to change it there instead od your svn props |
| 12:30.49 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 12:31.10 | kbh | you could log in, and delete all your SVs, then exit game :P |
| 12:31.16 | phyber | sylvanaar: because it's quicker to change the pathname in the embeds than to type the longer svn command to edit the props. |
| 12:31.23 | sylvanaar | kk |
| 12:31.26 | phyber | :) |
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| 12:32.31 | sylvanaar | anyone know of an sv cleaner? |
| 12:33.21 | sylvanaar | kbh does that work, only the ones that loaded would be written back out |
| 12:33.28 | phyber | library standards from ckknight say that SharedMediaLib should be renamed to SharedMedia-1.0 though. |
| 12:33.30 | kbh | haha, possibly |
| 12:33.45 | kbh | just backup your wtf and try it :P |
| 12:34.24 | sylvanaar | i know it doesnt work actually, i can make a batch file i guess |
| 12:35.35 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r43776 10XPBarNone/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): |
| 12:35.35 | CIA-22 | XPBarNone: |
| 12:35.35 | CIA-22 | - Hackity. |
| 12:35.44 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43777 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: fix pet color and group pet visibility option. |
| 12:39.33 | Leachim | Hm, is it possible that Prats FuBar Icon isn't hideable? |
| 12:40.13 | Leachim | Ok, that sounds bad -.- |
| 12:40.22 | Leachim | Yeah, recognized it :P |
| 12:40.29 | Fin | answer is, yes :) |
| 12:40.32 | Fin | and no! |
| 12:40.39 | Fin | you can't hide it |
| 12:40.56 | Fin | do you want to update it so that it can be hidden? |
| 12:41.13 | Mikk | if you want to hide fubar icons, create another fubar that's hidden until mouseover, drag stuff there |
| 12:41.18 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 12:41.46 | Fin | bit of a hack, but a nice one |
| 12:41.49 | Mikk | but to be quite honest, there's plenty of people requesting an extra "dropdown" for stuff they don't want visible |
| 12:41.50 | Leachim | Ok, thanks. :) That I wanted to know^^ Yeah, would be nice if I can hide the Plugin and thnaks. If i can't hide the Plugin with an option, I try your method Mikk^^ |
| 12:42.05 | Fin | I already use hidden-until-mouseover fubars tho, wouldn't work for me |
| 12:42.06 | Fin | neat tho |
| 12:42.20 | kbh | maybe a fubar dropper on a minimap icon :P |
| 12:42.31 | Fin | or a fubar dropper on the fubar |
| 12:42.34 | Fin | that would actually be awesome |
| 12:42.37 | kbh | my roomate uses like a million mods with fubar configs, but refuses to use fubar |
| 12:42.44 | Mikk | i'm thinking it'd be pretty easy to make a builtin "Extra fubars" thingy that when moused over pops out extra fubars that aren't very wide |
| 12:43.02 | Fin | a fubar module that ate up other fubar modules, so you could have a drop down list sort of like the start button in windows |
| 12:43.11 | Mikk | aye |
| 12:43.19 | Mikk | the dropdown list would simply be a bunch of small fubars |
| 12:43.21 | Fin | there's already Modfufufufu etc., but they're interfaces to the data structures |
| 12:43.23 | Mikk | so you could drag stuff around in there like usual |
| 12:43.28 | kbh | or, just like the natural fubar way, you drag stuff into it |
| 12:43.33 | Fin | one that took the actual menus themselves and stuck them in there would be nice |
| 12:43.55 | Fin | not sure how that would work nicely - I don't like dragging things *into* my start menu, for example |
| 12:44.15 | kbh | well its a better alternative to it automatically getting sucked into there |
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| 12:44.29 | Mikk | dragging into such a menu would be the obvious approach |
| 12:44.31 | Fin | well, not really, if what you want is for it to be sucked in there |
| 12:44.38 | kbh | instead of "creat new bar" could be "create new button" |
| 12:44.45 | Mikk | different users will want different things sucked in |
| 12:44.49 | Mikk | so drag ftw |
| 12:44.57 | Fin | I don't think it's possible to create a way of dragging the menu that would be a pleasant UI action |
| 12:45.08 | kbh | menu? |
| 12:45.08 | Leachim | I can't drag the Prat Icon -.-' |
| 12:45.10 | Wobin_ | Well there's WhatchamacallitFu |
| 12:45.15 | Mikk | wait.. what are we talking about? |
| 12:45.20 | Wobin_ | That just does the menus |
| 12:45.25 | Mikk | Yeah there is |
| 12:45.30 | Fin | I reckon the windows start menu has it about as nice as it can get |
| 12:45.31 | Mikk | FuBar_ModMenuFu or something |
| 12:45.34 | Wobin_ | Nah |
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| 12:45.39 | Wobin_ | lemme look it up |
| 12:45.42 | kbh | hidden fubar under a small button instead of across the top/bottom of screen |
| 12:45.56 | Mikk | kbh: yeah, that's what _I'm_ talking about |
| 12:46.03 | kbh | that stacks vertically instead of horizontally |
| 12:46.13 | Fin | [ my fubar addon | another one | Prat of course | end ] => [ fubar bits | Prat ] |
| 12:46.15 | Mikk | actually it'd stack whichever way you like |
| 12:46.23 | kbh | sure, any way you like |
| 12:46.37 | Mikk | it'd simply always have a free line at the bottom where you can drag stuff |
| 12:46.46 | Mikk | but if you like you can have multiples on one line too |
| 12:46.50 | Wobin_ | DeuceCommander |
| 12:47.01 | Fin | yeah, dragging items inside the menu would be OK, and I guess if you just wanted it to go from the main bar to the submenu then it would be fine to drag & drop |
| 12:47.09 | kbh | so a hidden bar could tuck into a corner instead of across the bottom, and bars could be configured to be horizontal instead of vertical |
| 12:47.24 | kbh | or both |
| 12:47.35 | kbh | and maybe a "force icon" button |
| 12:47.42 | kbh | could be like a fubar corrale |
| 12:47.46 | Leachim | But the Fubar icon must be drgable. And Prats isn't^^ |
| 12:47.49 | Fin | that would solve another long-standing annoyance of mine with fubar: you can't set it to just show text titles for addons unless the addon has it set up |
| 12:47.56 | Mikk | prats icon is plenty draggable, what are you talking about? |
| 12:48.02 | phirephly | Is there any documentation on Waterfall? |
| 12:48.06 | kbh | well sounds like prat needs to be changed! :P |
| 12:48.17 | Fin | I would have to agree |
| 12:48.20 | Leachim | It is? I can't^^ |
| 12:48.22 | phirephly | I found it and downloaded it, but there's almost no documentation on usage. |
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| 12:48.30 | sbu | morning |
| 12:48.49 | kbh | Leachim: if you have multiple fubars, you can drag the modules between them |
| 12:49.40 | Mikk | phirephly: it might have gone missing on the wiki crash. i'll see if i can find something to restore. |
| 12:50.03 | kbh | gosh, fubar isnt titan panel GEEZ |
| 12:50.05 | Tinyboom | any reason i keep getting this error? :) http://ace.pastey.net/70800 |
| 12:50.06 | Fin | ooh, I would've said that phirephly's welcome to write some :P |
| 12:50.11 | phirephly | Mikk: I didn't actually look on the wiki <blush> I looked in the readme inside. Sorry. I'll try there. |
| 12:50.33 | Leachim | I know. But Prats Icon just sits in my Fubar. When I open Fubars Dropdown menu it isn't listed in the categories and Prat has no FuBar Options. |
| 12:50.33 | phirephly | Trust me. You don't want me writing documentation on an API I don't understand to begin with. It wouldn't be pretty. |
| 12:50.35 | Fin | without meaning to be rude :) |
| 12:51.02 | Mikk | phirephly: it was lost in the crash. restoring it. |
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| 12:51.12 | Fin | phirephly: oh, sure you'd have to figure out how it works properly first, and *then* write the docs :P |
| 12:51.13 | phirephly | Ah. Okay. |
| 12:51.39 | phirephly | I'm more than happy to write docs for stuff I learn about. I do it at work all the time. |
| 12:52.05 | Fin | I'm terrible at documentation, but not as bad as I used to be |
| 12:52.32 | phirephly | I'm not bad at it, but my documentation tends to be more narrative than wikified. |
| 12:52.56 | Fin | wikified docs can be narrative too! |
| 12:53.20 | Fin | I wish more of them were, actually :( |
| 12:53.29 | phirephly | Yeah, but the more useful ones are more tabular than narrative. I'm not particularly good at that, but I can walk folks through a given task in a clear narrative. |
| 12:53.44 | Fin | can I be your friend? |
| 12:53.53 | phirephly | You already are :) |
| 12:54.05 | Fin | :) |
| 12:54.05 | kbh | gogo 2.2 PTR!! |
| 12:54.20 | Fin | kbh: you're not a rogue by any chance? |
| 12:54.28 | kbh | Fin: no! |
| 12:54.34 | kbh | but i can act like one! |
| 12:54.34 | phirephly | When I started at EDS 25 years ago, I was warned against doing documentation in my "natural" style for fear that I'd get yanked out of the engineering track and moved into the tech writing track. |
| 12:54.46 | Fin | aha, not a rogue; but roguish |
| 12:54.56 | kbh | i can stealth |
| 12:55.08 | Fin | wait |
| 12:55.11 | kbh | and break .... stuns |
| 12:55.12 | Fin | who said that? |
| 12:55.32 | Fin | stunning |
| 12:55.39 | Wobin_ | woo |
| 12:55.40 | Fin | any other skillsors? |
| 12:55.46 | Fin | woo? |
| 12:55.46 | Wobin_ | group pet visibilty on grid? |
| 12:55.50 | kbh | if you watch my eyes for a while you might see me .... |
| 12:55.56 | kbh | who am i? |
| 12:56.04 | Fin | kbh |
| 12:56.09 | Fin | are you OK? |
| 12:56.10 | kbh | oh yeah. |
| 12:56.19 | Fin | oh no, haha! you're kbh. |
| 12:56.21 | kbh | just dandy |
| 12:56.24 | Fin | you're definitely not OK |
| 12:56.40 | kbh | names with 3 letters ftw |
| 12:56.54 | kbh | everyone revert! its the new cool thing! |
| 12:57.07 | Fin | I think we may differ on the old ucupper chestnut, though |
| 12:57.15 | phirephly | Got a developer question if there's one available. |
| 12:57.17 | kbh | to each his own |
| 12:57.46 | Chompers | :o |
| 12:57.52 | Chompers | with what? |
| 12:57.54 | kbh | alas! my nick cannot be interpreted as meaningful! |
| 12:57.55 | Fisker- | it's usually better just to ask phirephly :P |
| 12:57.57 | Fisker- | Chompers you |
| 12:58.00 | Chompers | nooo |
| 12:58.23 | Fin | a lot of the people on the channel are developers, phirephly, either of the core Ace2 stuff (they're the important people), or just addons using Ace2, or just antagonist refuseniks who will be first against the wall come the revolution |
| 12:58.37 | kbh | whats with all this "while sitting" crap in the patch notes, i mean honestly |
| 12:58.38 | Fin | phirephly: so "developers" is a bit amgiguous |
| 12:58.45 | phirephly | I want to change the toon's language in response to an outgoing chat event BEFORE the chat event posts the chat. |
| 12:59.31 | Chompers | :o |
| 12:59.33 | phirephly | So, if you, for instance /say something, between the time you hit "enter" on the typing and the time the /say gets sent as text, the language might get changed from Orcish to Taurahe based on a stored value. |
| 13:00.04 | Fisker- | well phirephly SendChatMessage takes language as an argument |
| 13:00.05 | phirephly | But if you /yell something, you could have a different "stored value" that might or might not be the same as the /say version. |
| 13:00.18 | Fisker- | you're already dead |
| 13:00.26 | Chompers | someone use mass dispell |
| 13:00.40 | Fisker- | and slaughters fin again |
| 13:00.45 | Fisker- | i win |
| 13:00.45 | phirephly | Yeah, I know SCM. I don't think I need to override it. I just need to know when it's been fired and, before Blizzard's code uses it, swap the languages if the settings say to for that sort of chat. |
| 13:01.02 | Fin | phirephly: do you know about WoWWiki, btw? you seem like someone who would appreciate a good (most of the time) reference |
| 13:01.23 | phirephly | Can I capture the event, process it, and then pass it back into be processed normally (but with, potentially, a new "set" language)? |
| 13:01.29 | Fin | godammit that's not fair, speech hadn't even been invented then |
| 13:01.33 | Fin | it was just raw emotion |
| 13:01.39 | Wobin_ | Cheer up, emo kid |
| 13:01.58 | Fin | and I happen to know that being smug was considered extremely raw in some circlces |
| 13:02.02 | Fin | -c |
| 13:02.04 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.04 | Fin | OK? |
| 13:02.06 | Fin | so just leave me alone |
| 13:02.16 | sag_ich_nicht | you could drag it around with the API atm? |
| 13:02.18 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf |
| 13:02.32 | Fin | you guys just don't understand alright, just drop it |
| 13:02.33 | Fin | jesus |
| 13:02.40 | Wobin_ | macro conditional logic exploit, what? |
| 13:02.48 | Fin | who?! |
| 13:03.00 | Wobin_ | . o O ("On first") |
| 13:03.18 | phirephly | SAG: was that to me? About 2.2? |
| 13:03.23 | Fin | tut, tut, Wobin |
| 13:03.37 | Fin | he was just quoting a line from the 2.2 patch notes I think |
| 13:03.43 | Wobin | yes yes |
| 13:03.44 | sag_ich_nicht | phirephly: no i was just pasting random infos from the 2.2 UI notes |
| 13:03.48 | Fin | boom! |
| 13:03.51 | Wobin | but -what- exploit, was my question =P |
| 13:03.58 | phirephly | Random thought rule! |
| 13:04.03 | Fin | my future machine is in perfect - working - order |
| 13:04.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i figure you could use /click |
| 13:04.13 | Fisker- | stop killing me by confusing me |
| 13:04.24 | sag_ich_nicht | in macros and move the actions/seplls/etc. to different buttons using an addon in combat |
| 13:04.25 | phirephly | stop confusing me by killing me |
| 13:04.43 | Wobin | but to what end? |
| 13:04.45 | Mikk | phirephly: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Waterfall |
| 13:04.45 | Mikk | the API to do your own custom dialog stuff is not yet documented |
| 13:04.47 | Fin | some people, they're just never happy |
| 13:04.51 | Fin | Wobin: his feet |
| 13:05.03 | Fin | oh |
| 13:05.06 | kbh | maybe make a pet automatically growl if your tank dies? lol |
| 13:05.10 | phirephly | Mikk: Thanks! |
| 13:05.19 | Fin | you mean exploit end, not what end of Fisker- |
| 13:05.21 | Chompers | wish Prat auto-corrected words for me |
| 13:05.24 | Wobin | You can do that in the macro anyway, can't you? |
| 13:05.25 | Fin | Chompers: Alias |
| 13:05.27 | Chompers | i hate text talk :< |
| 13:05.30 | Chompers | oh |
| 13:05.36 | Wobin | set autocast, cast charge |
| 13:05.37 | Fin | Chompers: no! |
| 13:05.40 | Fin | Chompers: Substitutions |
| 13:05.48 | Fin | but you can't set your own |
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| 13:06.08 | Chompers | why :S |
| 13:06.14 | Fin | I was thinking it should have something like that, user-defined subs, but cog's thingy does it so much better what I'd do |
| 13:06.22 | Wobin | anyway for those who helped me choose my meal earlier today, thank you =) It was quite nice, although the main was disappointing |
| 13:06.46 | Fin | and it would confuse me then whether Alias should be merged into Substitutions, and would people understand what a module called Substitulias was |
| 13:06.58 | Wobin | aliastution? |
| 13:07.02 | Mikk | Alias is fairly poo either way |
| 13:07.12 | Dustwhisper | hoi |
| 13:07.12 | Fin | what, the name or the module? |
| 13:07.17 | Fin | the module's not very good, I'll admit |
| 13:07.19 | Mikk | I seem to be unable to get it to work with most slash commands |
| 13:07.28 | Dustwhisper | is there any module for SWstats or any addon for death logs on tanks that synch? |
| 13:07.35 | Fin | actually I know about that problem |
| 13:08.13 | Fin | I fixed it, once, after bothering sylvanaar with a huge number of basic questions which I personally would not like to have directed at me |
| 13:08.17 | Fisker- | ew |
| 13:08.17 | Fin | even though I was asking them |
| 13:08.22 | Fisker- | i still had GRAW 2 installed |
| 13:08.26 | Fin | and then it broke again, and I don't know why |
| 13:08.52 | Chompers | Fisker- i can't get past the second mission, it's so boring |
| 13:09.00 | Fisker- | it fails |
| 13:09.09 | Fisker- | I died on the second mission from a <1 meter "fall" |
| 13:09.13 | Fin | Mikk: is this for basic aliass like /alias /somelongaddongname /slan ? |
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| 13:09.14 | Chompers | hahaha |
| 13:09.20 | Fisker- | oh |
| 13:09.22 | Fisker- | and i had full hp |
| 13:09.39 | Mikk | Fin: I believe it was for builtin slashes |
| 13:09.40 | Fisker- | i cried myself to sleep after deleting the iso |
| 13:09.59 | Chompers | i laughed quite heartily |
| 13:10.36 | Fin | Mikk: could you give me an example please? (incidentally I never saw any bug reports about this :) |
| 13:11.09 | phirephly | Okay, I think I can state what I want to do more clearly now. Text follows. |
| 13:11.31 | Fin | I'd be surprised if it were a bitmap |
| 13:11.55 | Fin | </facetious> |
| 13:12.03 | phirephly | I think I DO need to override SendChatMessage. Evaluate the parameters in what is in what I intercept, based on those, refire the event with (or possibly without) the language being set based on my choices, and let it go on it's merry way. |
| 13:12.13 | Mikk | Fin: /alias b burp <- no worky |
| 13:12.16 | phirephly | If this were java, I could do it. But I'm not sure how to do it in LUA. |
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| 13:12.38 | phirephly | Is that doable? |
| 13:12.39 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.06 | Fin | Mikk: have you tried, when typing in the chat window "/b", adding a space at the end so it's "/b "? (probably not I know) |
| 13:13.07 | phirephly | Wait, is it override or overload. I think I may have used the wrong word. |
| 13:13.26 | Mikk | Fin: yeah that works, it expands |
| 13:13.26 | sag_ich_nicht | overwrite maybe? :P |
| 13:13.32 | Fin | Mikk: it shouldn't matter if it's builtin slash commands or not, it should parse the text and change it before it's sent to the previous functions |
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| 13:13.53 | Mikk | now I just want parameter aliases :S |
| 13:13.56 | Fin | Mikk: I had issues getting it to parse OnEnter though, which I *did* fix, as I said above, but it broke again and I don't know what it was |
| 13:14.06 | Fin | yes, I want parameter aliases also |
| 13:14.11 | Fin | actually I want an in-game bash |
| 13:14.22 | Mikk | something like that yeah :> |
| 13:14.25 | Fin | with a decent editor, so an in-game vim would be nice also |
| 13:14.33 | sag_ich_nicht | aaaaaaaaaaaand i killed WWS with my logfile. |
| 13:14.34 | Fin | hum |
| 13:14.38 | Mikk | vim >.< |
| 13:14.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Fin |
| 13:14.48 | purl | ACTION runs at Fin with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 13:14.52 | sag_ich_nicht | /hail emacs |
| 13:15.25 | Chompers | Fin: how on earth do i make a substitution with prat? |
| 13:15.26 | Fin | lemme see if I can fix that now, actually, maybe I've absorbed enough lua via osmosis to be able to do something |
| 13:15.32 | Dustwhisper | is there any module for SWstats or any addon for death logs on tanks that synch? to tell how much incoming dmg it took compared to incoming heals |
| 13:15.40 | Fin | Chompers: you can only use predefined ones, sorry |
| 13:15.44 | Dustwhisper | to many times our healers say "he got hit for to much and died" which is bullshit |
| 13:15.46 | Chompers | it's enabled in prat buti have no idea what type of line i'd use |
| 13:15.48 | Chompers | balls! |
| 13:16.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:15] <Dustwhisper> is there any module for SWstats or any addon for death logs on tanks that synch? to tell how much incoming dmg it took compared to incoming heals <--X-Perl unitframes has GrimReaper |
| 13:16.29 | sag_ich_nicht | which tells you the last 10 combatlog events concerning that person |
| 13:16.39 | Fisker- | i've got balls of steel |
| 13:16.43 | Mikk | Fin: self:SecureHook('ChatEdit_ParseText') <- that's why it's not happening |
| 13:17.06 | Mikk | and flat out hooking ChatEdit_ParseText prolly isn't a good idea either cause then you taint the chatedit |
| 13:17.19 | Mikk | ... i think that's bad anyway |
| 13:17.23 | Chompers | "get off my vent channel" |
| 13:17.28 | Chompers | "BALLS OF STEEL" |
| 13:18.18 | Fin | Mikk: yes, I think so too, *but*: |
| 13:18.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:17] <+Mikk> and flat out hooking ChatEdit_ParseText prolly isn't a good idea either cause then you taint the chatedit <--which results in me flaming after take a look at /dtevents while chatting in combat |
| 13:18.25 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 13:18.31 | sag_ich_nicht | +I |
| 13:18.46 | Fin | Mikk: I spent fuckin AGES trying to figure out where was the proper place to hook into to replace the alias with the actual and completely failed |
| 13:18.59 | Fin | this is the best hack I could come up with that had the approximate functionality I personally wanted |
| 13:19.21 | Fin | I figured at that point, add it and if people found it useful, good for them, if not at least I do |
| 13:19.33 | Fin | now I am going to try and fix it |
| 13:19.35 | Mikk | hehe |
| 13:19.40 | Fin | and Substitutions |
| 13:20.05 | Mikk | fix AltNames too pl0x :> |
| 13:20.07 | Fin | I haven't really done much coding for about a year and a half, but in the last two weeks I started my new job and I've been getting back into the swing of it |
| 13:20.21 | Fin | what's wrong with AltNames apart from lack of functionality? |
| 13:20.29 | Mikk | mem hoggishness |
| 13:20.36 | kbh | wtb a mod for molesting guild notes |
| 13:20.42 | Fin | you want me to compress the names and stuff? |
| 13:20.51 | Fin | yeah, I guess it is a bit simple |
| 13:20.52 | Dustwhisper | sag_ich_nicht already using grid+aguf no need x-perl, is the grimreaper mod for any other unitframes? |
| 13:21.05 | Mikk | no wait |
| 13:21.09 | Mikk | it's not altnames is it |
| 13:21.12 | Fin | I'm not familiar enough with the API to know where to elegantify things |
| 13:21.14 | Fin | PlayerNames |
| 13:21.19 | Mikk | THAAAAATS the one |
| 13:21.23 | Fin | that's the first thing I turned off :) |
| 13:21.25 | Chompers | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3j7nprRejs |
| 13:21.28 | Fin | I'm not going near it |
| 13:21.44 | Mikk | haha |
| 13:21.47 | Mikk | fair enuf :> |
| 13:22.01 | Fin | AltNames was originally a modification to PlayerNames, what a way to start |
| 13:22.11 | Mikk | i'd want a ["Player"] = "class;level;othershit" |
| 13:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:20] <Dustwhisper> sag_ich_nicht already using grid+aguf no need x-perl, is the grimreaper mod for any other unitframes? <--take a look at it and try it, i don't know, honestly. :) |
| 13:22.15 | Mikk | not several different tables |
| 13:22.32 | Fin | compression, then |
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| 13:22.46 | Mikk | the playernames SV file is positively frigging huge :S |
| 13:22.48 | Fin | *some* sort of compression anyway |
| 13:22.57 | Fin | well, it *is* recording a huge amount of data |
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| 13:23.07 | Fin | every single person that you see chatting, basically? I think? |
| 13:23.27 | Mikk | i don' |
| 13:23.29 | sag_ich_nicht | someone should implement paq8hp12 in WoW |
| 13:23.32 | Mikk | t remember the collection points anymore |
| 13:23.38 | Fin | and, you know there's an option to not save data, right? (it doesn't get rid of existing data though I think, which is why I turn it off) |
| 13:23.39 | Mikk | but it grows badly after a while yeah :> |
| 13:23.46 | Mikk | yeah i know |
| 13:23.47 | sag_ich_nicht | sure, it would take forever to do anything, but the SV fiels would be tiny. :P |
| 13:23.54 | sag_ich_nicht | *files |
| 13:24.00 | Mikk | except i kinda want "half-lots" saved |
| 13:24.28 | Mikk | some sort of expiration would be nice :S |
| 13:24.33 | Fin | it's not my module and I wouldn't feel too great about "fixing" it unless it was a proper thorough nicely done with full existing functionality and usage etc. |
| 13:24.48 | Fin | I'm waaay too lazy for that |
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| 13:25.18 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: someone should implement SQLite in WoW |
| 13:25.41 | Fin | that would just be cool |
| 13:25.44 | Fin | no real advantage |
| 13:27.07 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43778 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: typo |
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| 13:30.16 | Fin | OK, I think I can add user-defined subs to Substitutions |
| 13:30.27 | Fin | I shall require beer |
| 13:30.59 | Chompers | yay! :D |
| 13:32.30 | phirephly | Mikk: Do you happen to know if this page reflects the current state of things LUA-wise in WoW (with all the changes in the past few months): http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_chat_frames_to_modify_or_suppress_messages |
| 13:32.39 | phirephly | Mikk: I think that's the code I want. |
| 13:33.10 | phirephly | Fin: I have some Sam Adams if you want. Come on by. |
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| 13:33.25 | phirephly | Fin: Sam Adams and 3 networked computers all next to each other in my workroom. |
| 13:35.06 | nevcairiel | phirephly: look at the alternative method a bit lower on that article, thats the prefered way now. hooking AddMessage isnt really good anymore |
| 13:35.22 | phirephly | Cool beans. Thanks. |
| 13:35.27 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43779 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 13:35.27 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:35.27 | CIA-22 | - added Shade of Akama frFR translation. |
| 13:36.48 | phirephly | Much simpler anyway. I'll work on it. Thanks, Nev. |
| 13:37.22 | nevcairiel | sure thing |
| 13:41.31 | phirephly | Do I need to register that event or anything or is that code pretty much good as is? |
| 13:45.00 | nevcairiel | thaats pretty much it |
| 13:45.55 | Fin | phirephly: as nice as that sounds, I'm afraid I'm going to have to make do with this ice cool premium grade, locally brewed Czech pilsner |
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| 13:46.04 | phirephly | FIN: Yeah, but you'd miss out on the scintillating conversation with my 5yo boy. :) |
| 13:46.23 | phirephly | Nev: K. I've got it about half coded anyway, but I thought I'd check to make sure I wasn't missing a bet. |
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| 13:46.46 | Fin | phirephly: I shall just have to drown my insincere protests of regret with alcohol |
| 13:47.23 | Fin | nice as your son surely is |
| 13:47.37 | harldephin | oO |
| 13:48.23 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r43780 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua: BigWigs: del extra zhCN local |
| 13:48.27 | Fin | that looks more like a pair of nostrils than someone "goggling" |
| 13:48.40 | phirephly | Nev: Once I've trapped the event, I know I can view the arguments, but how do I go about changing them? |
| 13:49.05 | phirephly | Nev: Or should I just fire my own "say" with new arguments? |
| 13:52.13 | phirephly | Nev: I'm on the wowwiki page related to chat message events and I found this: Place this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SAY"); in the <OnLoad>/</OnLoad> section of your MyMod.xml file. |
| 13:52.52 | phirephly | Nev: And then this: Then, have an if (event == "CHAT_MSG_SAY") then MyMod_Say(event, arg1, arg2, arg3); end line, or something like it, in the <OnEvent>/</OnEvent> section |
| 13:52.53 | phirephly | of your MyMod.xml file. |
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| 13:53.02 | Dustwhisper | Is there any synched mod that will show a timeline for every raidmember? Every heal taken, every heal cast, every damage taken, every buff gotten/cast etc ? |
| 13:53.20 | phirephly | Sorry about weird formatting there. Miskeyed something, obviously. |
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| 13:54.22 | Chompers | Dustwhisper: recount perhaps? |
| 13:54.23 | phirephly | Nev: Those two lines seem to me to be saying "Be aware of CHAT_MSG_SAY events" and "When one happens, do MyMod_Say instead using the original event plus the three arguments that accompanied it". |
| 13:54.35 | phirephly | Nev: Correct? |
| 13:55.40 | Doow_ | Hi, I hope this is a good place to ask. Anyway, I'm trying to make a small plugin that when I press a button selectively casts one of revenge, shield slam, sunder armor and devastate. I'm not even sure this is possible atm, I suspect I have to use SecureTemplates somehow, but I don't really understand them (my current problem is the actual casting of the spells) |
| 13:56.00 | Dustwhisper | Recount doesn't give a timeline |
| 13:56.02 | Dustwhisper | and it's short |
| 13:56.05 | Dustwhisper | i want throughout the whole fight |
| 13:56.08 | Dustwhisper | and much more graphical |
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| 13:56.41 | [dRaCo] | doow_: like in one button tanking? not possible. |
| 13:57.14 | Doow_ | [dRaCo], ok =) |
| 13:57.36 | Doow_ | [dRaCo], you probably saved me a lot of research there |
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| 13:57.54 | phirephly | Nev: Do I have to do that in XML? Or can I put it in my OnEnable() in the LUA itself. |
| 13:58.28 | Fin | has to belong to a frame |
| 13:58.37 | Fin | you can create the frame in Lua, though |
| 13:59.04 | phirephly | Ace2 has a register function. Can I use that? Doesn't it use a frame? |
| 14:00.51 | phirephly | Fin: self:RegisterEvent() - Can I use that? Without a separate frame definition? |
| 14:00.57 | Mikk | Yes |
| 14:00.59 | Mikk | You can |
| 14:01.03 | phirephly | Cool beans. |
| 14:01.04 | Mikk | The Ace libs create a hidden frame for you |
| 14:01.11 | phirephly | Gotta love Ace |
| 14:01.17 | Fin | oh, sorry, I thought you were doing it from scratch |
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| 14:01.29 | phirephly | I was, sort of, but I'd like to use as much of what is already there as possible. |
| 14:02.14 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin this WoWwiki article is baised and just plain WRONG. |
| 14:03.19 | Fin | ? |
| 14:03.43 | phirephly | So: self:RegisterEvent() in OnEnable, then --- if (event == "CHAT_MSG_SAY") then GRPMod_CHAT_MSG_SAY(event, arg1, arg2, arg3) end --- Correct? |
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| 14:05.56 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: Ah? |
| 14:08.10 | Mikk | phirephly: yeah about that |
| 14:09.16 | Mikk | phirephly: actually, if you only register a single event for a function, you don't even have to test the event variable |
| 14:09.53 | Mikk | or if you just do self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SAY") -- no function given -- it'll automatically try to pass the event to self:CHAT_MSG_SAY |
| 14:10.21 | sag_ich_nicht | GOD DAMN IT RUSSIA: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/07/14/russia.treaty.ap/index.html |
| 14:10.39 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:05] <Codayus> sag_ich_nicht: Ah? <--second paragraph |
| 14:13.38 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: so fix it to be unbiased and fix the factual errors? |
| 14:13.42 | Codayus | 2nd paragraph...hmm. Looks about right? |
| 14:14.18 | sag_ich_nicht | " |
| 14:14.18 | sag_ich_nicht | The Paladin's main role in PvE focuses primarily on healing. |
| 14:14.32 | Fin | I think |
| 14:14.32 | phirephly | Mikk: I'm redoing the code now. I'll get back with you in a few. |
| 14:14.38 | sag_ich_nicht | we have a paladin maintank in kara and i know multiple who have tanked gruul successfully |
| 14:14.45 | sag_ich_nicht | so: wrong :P |
| 14:14.46 | Codayus | So? |
| 14:14.48 | Fin | that you're a bitter paladin who can't admit what your class's primary role is |
| 14:15.04 | sag_ich_nicht | I think you have never seen a good tank paladin :P |
| 14:15.07 | Mikk | pallies are totally ok tanks now too |
| 14:15.14 | Mikk | and yeah the article should be updated to reflect that |
| 14:15.24 | Fin | what's their main role in PvE |
| 14:15.25 | Fin | +? |
| 14:15.38 | sag_ich_nicht | they are a hybrid. |
| 14:15.46 | Codayus | Article seems right; it says the main pally role in PvE is healing... |
| 14:15.56 | sag_ich_nicht | which it is not. |
| 14:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | actually let me look at the druid article |
| 14:16.09 | Chompers | paladins are great dps too |
| 14:16.11 | Codayus | Maybe there's a language issue here. |
| 14:16.11 | Chompers | lulz |
| 14:16.13 | Fin | a hybrid, and what is their main role as a hybrid? what do they do most because that's what most people see them as being able to do best in combination with other classes, ie the majority of players? |
| 14:16.43 | Codayus | We have an excellent tanking paladin too, but tanking is *hardly* the main role of the class. |
| 14:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin: so define the main roll of a druid in PvE |
| 14:16.54 | Fin | priests are great at dps, are you going to say their primary role is not healing? |
| 14:17.04 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: healing |
| 14:17.08 | Fin | although |
| 14:17.12 | sag_ich_nicht | okay you have just lost the game |
| 14:17.15 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: DPS and tanking, about equally I'd say. |
| 14:17.29 | Codayus | Healing is sooo pre 2.0. :-) |
| 14:17.35 | Fin | I would like to say I don't know much about how it works since TBC; I haven't done any raiding yet |
| 14:18.05 | Codayus | Probably more DPS than tank, I 'spose... |
| 14:18.08 | Fin | I'd still say healing |
| 14:18.28 | Fin | it's their primary role, but as a hybrid they do lots of stuff and are good at what they do |
| 14:18.38 | Fin | good enough to be able to call themselves hybrids anyway |
| 14:18.49 | sag_ich_nicht | they are a hybrid. they have no primary roll, their roll depends on their spec. |
| 14:18.50 | sag_ich_nicht | get over it. |
| 14:19.09 | Fin | hah, *me* get over it? OK :) |
| 14:19.09 | Codayus | Fin: Naa, I'd disagree... |
| 14:19.10 | Wobin | ps |
| 14:19.12 | Wobin | ROLE |
| 14:19.14 | Wobin | Please. |
| 14:19.16 | Wobin | =P |
| 14:19.19 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 14:19.19 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 14:19.24 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 14:19.27 | Fin | OK |
| 14:19.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalestab Fin |
| 14:19.28 | purl | ACTION stabs Fin with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 14:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | don't make me take over your typos :P |
| 14:20.10 | Fin | don't accuse me of typoing where I didn't! I typo enough without freebies being thrown in :P |
| 14:20.15 | Codayus | Druid healing in pve is kind of a niche thing really. I wouldn't say it's the primary role. |
| 14:20.31 | Codayus | But I suppose the argument shows the problems of talking about primary roles with hybrids. |
| 14:20.39 | Fin | I've never seen a druid do anything else in PvE except when there's a surplus of healers |
| 14:20.59 | Fin | paladins *might* actually class their primary role as "Dispellers", I guess |
| 14:21.04 | Xerophyte | *shrug*, I'd say the main fault is the article claims pve when in fact it refers to raiding |
| 14:21.14 | Codayus | Xerophyte: Ooh, good point. |
| 14:21.24 | Codayus | Full disclosure: I've been talking about raiding. :-) |
| 14:21.30 | Fin | that's true, Xero, but everyone is making the same mistake in this particular discussion :) |
| 14:21.34 | Wobin | meh |
| 14:21.35 | Fin | so thankfully it doesn't matter |
| 14:21.42 | Wobin | I've had really damn good druid healers |
| 14:21.48 | Wobin | in a raid scenario |
| 14:22.00 | Codayus | Yes. I <3 Lifebloom. |
| 14:22.11 | Fin | droods are totally awesome single-target healers |
| 14:22.13 | Wobin | It's true |
| 14:22.16 | Fin | better than priests I'd say |
| 14:22.18 | Wobin | I wish I had lifebloom |
| 14:22.48 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin <-- rephased that the "greatest strength" of the paladin is healing, rather than try to point out a "main role" |
| 14:22.56 | Mikk | Also pointed out that pallys tank well enough |
| 14:22.57 | sag_ich_nicht | okay fine :P |
| 14:22.57 | Fin | who doesn't like a good old argument about classes and their roles, eh? |
| 14:23.02 | Codayus | But I'd say most raids take at *least* as many feral druids as resto, and probably find them harder to replace... |
| 14:23.02 | Wobin | I was in a SH run with a guildie 'lock who loved doing SoC and fear =P |
| 14:23.09 | Wobin | I just couldn't keep him up =P |
| 14:23.11 | Fin | :) |
| 14:23.22 | Wobin | So I let him die |
| 14:23.24 | Wobin | Lots =P |
| 14:23.29 | Mikk | "main role" is bullshit for a lot of classes |
| 14:23.30 | Fin | same with dps warriros |
| 14:23.31 | Fin | r> |
| 14:23.33 | Wobin | It was alright, he'd already done his dps =P |
| 14:23.49 | Codayus | Mikk: "greatest strength"...yeah, I'd buy that. That's what I interpreted "main role" to mean, essentially; that's definetly clearer. |
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| 14:24.05 | Xerophyte | Fin: With 2.0 a druid is probably the one healer you don't ever want to put on a single target. Lifebloom is absolutely wonderful, but you can only really cast it once per 6 seconds on a given person :p |
| 14:24.11 | Fin | bad /quit msgs are so great, because noone can ever say anything |
| 14:24.21 | Wobin | It's true |
| 14:24.44 | Xerophyte | The pure hps a tree can put out in some situation is absolutely sick though |
| 14:24.44 | Mikk | Xerophyte: you can keep a 3stack of lifebloom up indefinitely for lulz amount of healing per second for nearly no mana |
| 14:24.47 | Codayus | Xerophyte: Mmm, I'd still say you'd put the druid on 1-2 targets; it's just they should have the time and mana to spot heal beyond that. |
| 14:25.18 | Fin | Xerophyte: I hope to be educated in the VERY NEAR FUTURE FUCKING GET A MOVE ON OMINOUS about the delights of all aspects of raiding, and have made a note to pay attention to Lifebloom - I already want it on my priest |
| 14:25.26 | Codayus | But I'd still say that's "single target healing"... |
| 14:25.41 | Xerophyte | Mikk: Oh, I know. You just shouldn't be doing so on only one person, ideally. |
| 14:26.01 | Mikk | Nah, if you're lifebloom whoring you should be whoring more =) |
| 14:26.01 | Codayus | But if you DO use it on one person, you'll STILL outheal a priest. |
| 14:26.04 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.23 | Mikk | Hell, I was lifebloom whoring on mag trash with my ferlol a while ago |
| 14:26.27 | Mikk | Was like #3 on healing done |
| 14:26.28 | Mikk | :S |
| 14:26.30 | Codayus | (Note: Slight exageration due to lingering bitterness at the power of the priest holy tree.) |
| 14:26.42 | Wobin | power? |
| 14:26.46 | Wobin | whut? |
| 14:26.46 | Fin | what I was trying to say was basically: on my tank, in a 5-man, with 3 other decent members that can look after themselves, I would choose a good drood over a good priest as my healer if I could |
| 14:26.56 | Wobin | Priest holy tree has a power? |
| 14:27.02 | Wobin | Why didn't someone tell me? |
| 14:27.06 | Fin | more like a "po" |
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| 14:27.09 | Mikk | Wobin: lolwell and circle of healing! |
| 14:27.11 | phirephly | I have a 70 hunter and all anyone wants from me on raids any more is CC. 1k DPS capability and they want me to freeze ONE (1) guy for 20 seconds instead. |
| 14:27.13 | Wobin | oh man |
| 14:27.20 | Wobin | but lolwell will have +heal now! |
| 14:27.26 | Fin | sort of stops short of anything really resembling "power" |
| 14:27.40 | Codayus | Wobin: Right, the power of the priest holy tree is why I respecced to shadow. |
| 14:27.44 | Codayus | Hence, by bitterness. :-) |
| 14:27.52 | Mikk | shadow priests are sick now tho |
| 14:27.53 | Wobin | I respecced back cause we needed healers |
| 14:27.58 | Xerophyte | Fin: Hey, so would I, but I raided as a resto druid in vanilla for a bit more than a year so I'm sure I'm horribly biased :) Though to be honest the lack of a res is a bother in heroics |
| 14:27.58 | Wobin | I was shadow |
| 14:28.01 | Fin | actually I reckon the +heal thing for lifewells will be surprisingly cool |
| 14:28.11 | Wobin | Fin: if it weren't for the other drawbacks to lolwell |
| 14:28.16 | Wobin | ie, cancel on hit |
| 14:28.16 | Mikk | i'm wondering how well a raid healing force of only pallies and druids would work out |
| 14:28.21 | Codayus | I don't see it myself; the 5 charges and 3 min duration are showstoppers. |
| 14:28.23 | Fin | *and* I was actually in a situation the other day when a lifewell would've been PERFECT for the fight we kept dyin on |
| 14:28.25 | Wobin | 5 charge only |
| 14:28.35 | Codayus | Even without the "break on damage" |
| 14:28.36 | Fin | Xerophyte: hey, we're all horribly biased, it's just about how well we hide it |
| 14:28.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:28] <Fin> *and* I was actually in a situation the other day when a lifewell would've been PERFECT for the fight we kept dyin on <--details please |
| 14:28.55 | Codayus | Mikk: Weak on raid healing. Will see issues on Gruul or VR. |
| 14:29.12 | Codayus | Excellent single target healing; your tanks shouldn't die...ever. |
| 14:29.12 | Xerophyte | Mikk: I'd miss the chain heal spam, but the tanks wouldn't die. I find it both amusing and depressing that priests are the most replaceable healers nowadays... |
| 14:29.36 | Mikk | Well, my point would be that instead you'd have a bunch of spriests VEing up the raid =) |
| 14:29.38 | Wobin | It's true |
| 14:29.58 | Mikk | But yeah a resto shammy chainhealing the melee is nice |
| 14:30.13 | Mikk | (Pardon, I'm not really used to thinking about shammies yet) |
| 14:30.16 | Wobin | Circle of healing is actually kinda cool |
| 14:30.18 | Fin | Wobin: you mean, wasting all your points in other useless talents to get to it, the fact that it's a stationary healing spot in a game where almost all fights require people to spread out, can't be extended by duration or number, and costs a lot of mana? |
| 14:30.29 | Wobin | Fin: ..hm. |
| 14:30.32 | Wobin | Fin: Yep. |
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| 14:30.37 | Fin | thought so |
| 14:30.40 | Codayus | CoH is...good. But it's not enough IMHO. |
| 14:30.44 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:30.52 | Wobin | it's kinda nifty... |
| 14:30.55 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: ? |
| 14:30.56 | Wobin | but not effective enough |
| 14:31.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin: i meant tell me more about that situation :P |
| 14:31.14 | Codayus | I think priest 41 point talent should be something similar in Lifebloom or CH in power. :-) |
| 14:31.35 | Mikk | Stick PoM there |
| 14:31.42 | Mikk | :P |
| 14:31.48 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: oh, that's the thing - I can't remember exactly where we were! I was trying to recall the other day, couldn't for the life of me think of it - but I know I kept repeating it to everyone because it was the first time ever |
| 14:31.48 | phirephly | Dev Q: I have my self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SAY") in my OnEnable() function. I have a function called GRPMod:CHAT_MSG_SAY(). In that function, I put some self:Print() diagnostics to see if the event is being trapped properly. I get nothing. The /say happens normally with no diagnostic messages. |
| 14:31.51 | Codayus | CoH is...a fun toy. Situationally good. But... |
| 14:31.52 | Fin | oh! |
| 14:31.55 | Fin | that's right! |
| 14:31.58 | Fin | it was Old Hillsbrad, at Thrall |
| 14:32.15 | Fin | hey look at that my memory's come front again |
| 14:32.19 | Fin | back |
| 14:32.23 | Mikk | phirephly: pastey.net it |
| 14:32.59 | Fin | oh, and just as something I feel I must say because it is so great |
| 14:33.00 | Mikk | phirephly: do you know for sure that your OnEnable is running like you expect? =) |
| 14:33.05 | Xerophyte | CoH has the annoying of being mutually exclusive with DS, so you'd better be very sure you'll always raid with a 23ish disc priest for it to be a good pick. The joys of twin sorta-heal trees... |
| 14:33.15 | Codayus | Lightwell isn't bad on Gruul if you don't have much raid healing. Rogue gets hit by a cave in, runs out, hits a lightwell, runs back in, and probably doesn't get hit by more rocks before lightwell buff runs out. |
| 14:33.19 | Fin | my recent increase in healing groups has enlightened me to the Way of the Prayer of Mending |
| 14:33.25 | Codayus | Of course, 5 charges and 3 min duration = fail. |
| 14:33.37 | Fin | Prayer of Mending ruleZ |
| 14:33.59 | phirephly | http://ace.pastey.net/70802-1tjk |
| 14:34.04 | Codayus | The cooldown nerf was too large I fear. |
| 14:34.05 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: awesome, 10 points for causing instant IRC activity on two channels (at least!) |
| 14:34.05 | phirephly | Here it is: http://ace.pastey.net/70802-1tjk |
| 14:34.13 | Wobin | oh I <3 PoM |
| 14:34.13 | Codayus | It's a great heal, but it doesn't rescue priest healing. |
| 14:34.23 | Wobin | I use PoMPong to heal in instances at times =) |
| 14:34.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin: I have a lvl 1 troll alt, somewhere. |
| 14:34.34 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: I think... it's... here... |
| 14:34.46 | phirephly | Yes, the onenable is working, because I stuck THIS code into a working mod. |
| 14:34.47 | Wobin | PoMPong is great |
| 14:34.56 | kenlyric | hmm, the only reason you wouldn't like PoM is if you didn't use it. |
| 14:34.57 | Codayus | I think the PoM design was flawed; with no cooldown it's insanely OP, but with the cooldown they added it's STILL OP, but doesn't contribute enough... |
| 14:35.01 | phirephly | And the rest of the functionality of the mod is still good. |
| 14:35.05 | Fin | in a two man party, when you both get hit by lots of little bastards, it's so good |
| 14:35.13 | Fin | like when you're fighting one of those rock elementals that shards itself |
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| 14:35.21 | Mikk | phirephly: that code contains errors. enable lua errors showing in your UI |
| 14:35.31 | Fin | one PoM can heal both of you from half health to full |
| 14:35.40 | phirephly | I have. It didn't throw one. Lemme make sure I didn't goof the paste. |
| 14:35.46 | Codayus | It's good on VR, Curator, when duoing, when soloing, when pvping, in any fight with AoE, in any fight with multiple mobs...um... |
| 14:35.58 | Fin | I hear ya! |
| 14:36.02 | Fin | can you hear it? |
| 14:36.05 | Fin | amen! |
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| 14:36.26 | Mikk | ohwait nvm, i remember now |
| 14:36.32 | Wobin | Best way, if you only have one main dps(tank) is to stand up close to them and PoM |
| 14:36.35 | Mikk | | numLang=GetNumLaguages() | isn't an error |
| 14:36.39 | Codayus | Then SW:D! |
| 14:36.39 | phirephly | Mikk: What error are you seeing? |
| 14:36.43 | Wobin | Then SW:D it back onto the tank when it bounces to you =) |
| 14:36.56 | phirephly | Oh, that Blizzard misspelling thing. Yeah, that threw me until I looked VERY closely at the API documentation. |
| 14:36.57 | Mikk | phirephly: i just remembered that your typo isn't YOUR typo ;) |
| 14:37.06 | Fin | yeah so seriously btw, Lifewell at Thrall would've been awesome for us |
| 14:37.27 | Codayus | In my view, PoM was the best spell they added in the xpac, and was basically the saviour of the holy priest. With the nerf...it's still good...but... Blah. |
| 14:37.30 | Fin | none of us had been to Old Hillsbrad before though, so it's *possible* we could've used some sort of "strategy" |
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| 14:37.43 | sag_ich_nicht | lol wtf you can wallhop onto the pillars in the nagrand arena? that's awesomely abusable. |
| 14:37.53 | phirephly | Ace2 really ought to have an override for that called GetNumLanguages() that just parses the argument list and passes it on to GetNumLaguages() just to "fix" that misspelling. |
| 14:38.19 | Fin | 5 points to phirephly for spelling misspelling corectly |
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| 14:38.36 | phirephly | 5 points from Fin for misspelling "correctly" :) |
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| 14:40.06 | phirephly | True story: For a short time I went to this very scary "Christian" school that was so backwards that their cheer squad actually yelled out "ESS YOU SEE ---- EEE ESS ESS --- THAT'S THE WAY YOU SPELL SUCCESS". |
| 14:40.31 | Fin | no |
| 14:40.33 | Fin | you jest |
| 14:40.35 | phirephly | The cheer coach was actually surprised and shocked when I pointed out the misspelling. |
| 14:41.00 | phirephly | Pioneer Christian Academy, circa 1975-76. |
| 14:41.06 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 14:41.09 | Fin | my word |
| 14:41.10 | Codayus | Oh dear. |
| 14:41.13 | Fin | see, this is why I want to go to america |
| 14:41.18 | Fin | to see if you're all real |
| 14:41.46 | phirephly | My dad put us in there when the schools in Nashville, Tennessee were integrated. I think they had a carving in the lintel over the main entrance that said "We'll shut our doors before we let a black child in here." |
| 14:42.48 | phirephly | We had a gym coach who had a side job as a radio personality on an all Christian station. His show was called (and I'm not making this up) "The Jim Strange Hour" (that was his name "Jim Strange"). The "strange" part was that "The Jim Strange Hour" was 10 minutes long. |
| 14:43.14 | Fin | (I always begin typing misspelled, then... wait... misspelled? mispellt? mispellt? gah! the self-doubt! I know - "spelled incorrectly"... ... and then, the guilt... ) |
| 14:43.16 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 14:43.18 | Codayus | http://www.pioneerchristianacademy.org/ |
| 14:43.35 | Codayus | "Home of the Buffaloes" apparently. |
| 14:43.37 | phirephly | That's the one. |
| 14:43.38 | Fin | "jim strange" |
| 14:43.39 | Fin | I like that |
| 14:43.54 | Fin | well that's mighty jim strange, johnbob! |
| 14:43.59 | phirephly | First graduating class was 1976. Had something like 12 students in that year's class. |
| 14:44.12 | phirephly | I was class of 1978 and had moved to Denton, Texas by then. |
| 14:44.42 | phirephly | I gotta go check out that website. I didn't know that school was even still there. |
| 14:44.43 | Codayus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Christian_Academy |
| 14:44.48 | Codayus | Amazing... |
| 14:45.08 | Fin | let's have a looksee at those chickballs o' yours - jesus lord and mary! them's some jim strange lookin chickballs you got there! |
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| 14:45.14 | mjc | moo |
| 14:45.15 | Codayus | In more interesting news, I just saw a rogue named "Evasiontank". |
| 14:45.20 | Codayus | I laughed. |
| 14:45.22 | Wobin | misspelt and misspelled are interchangable |
| 14:45.22 | mjc | heh |
| 14:45.35 | Fin | Wobin: are they? ARE THEY REALLY? |
| 14:45.50 | Wobin | yep |
| 14:45.59 | Fin | can you trust yourself to KNOW they're interchangablely interchangeable - when the time comes? CAN YOU? |
| 14:46.06 | Fin | publically or publicly? |
| 14:46.09 | Wobin | yes |
| 14:46.22 | Mikk | I hate publi%&#&¤#%¤ |
| 14:46.23 | Fin | straw poll, humour me |
| 14:46.28 | Fin | publically or publicly? |
| 14:46.42 | Fin | writeable or writable? |
| 14:46.48 | Mikk | DIE! |
| 14:46.50 | Fisker- | good job |
| 14:46.51 | Wobin | publicly |
| 14:46.53 | Fin | interchangeable or interchangable |
| 14:46.55 | Fin | OR NOT |
| 14:46.56 | Fin | ?????? |
| 14:47.00 | Fin | <ominous music> |
| 14:47.04 | Wobin | interchangeable |
| 14:47.07 | phirephly | Back. Both are words. Writeable means it can be written. Writable means that a "writ" can be made for it. |
| 14:47.10 | Fisker- | your mother or yo moma_ |
| 14:47.11 | Fisker- | ? |
| 14:47.16 | Fin | yeah! who cares! they're all WORDS |
| 14:47.21 | phirephly | I just use "That bitch my dad married". |
| 14:47.28 | Fin | phirephly: isn't that writtable? |
| 14:47.29 | Wobin | you should have said "Their all words" |
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| 14:47.39 | Kirkburn|afk | "yourmom" was the name of my housemate's brother's char all the way to 70 |
| 14:47.42 | Fin | oh god, d'oh, -2 points to me and +3 to Wobin |
| 14:47.57 | Fisker- | Attack of the Fin |
| 14:48.00 | Kirkburn|afk | He also had a main called "bumsalad" that lasted with that name for nearly 2 years |
| 14:48.03 | phirephly | Don't know. It's pretty obscure. |
| 14:48.16 | Fin | (Wobin: although, I think everyone would've actually just thought I'd typoed it. typoed? or typo'd? or typod? OR NOT?) |
| 14:48.33 | phirephly | I usually use typo'd. |
| 14:48.52 | Kirkburn|afk | I just don't typo. :P |
| 14:48.52 | Fin | Fisker-: actually er I seem to remember er, you attacking me? once or twice? a lot? |
| 14:49.06 | Fin | just say NO |
| 14:49.07 | Wobin | we had a guy come on to our MUD with the name Deanalator |
| 14:49.16 | Fin | awesome |
| 14:49.16 | Wobin | "My name's DEAN!" |
| 14:49.19 | sag_ich_nicht | http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5960/cheatersinarenabj3.jpg http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/5739/wowscrnshot071407030532xj0.jpg wow. |
| 14:49.23 | Wobin | we still barred the name =P |
| 14:49.30 | phirephly | My wife is a Ukrainian peasant jewess who's grasp of English is somewhat seldom. She plays WoW with me - I started both of us on WoW to help her with her English. It's coming along nicely. |
| 14:49.43 | Fin | suppression of freedom of speech! censorship! nazi! |
| 14:49.56 | Fin | I think I know your wife |
| 14:49.56 | Mikk | phirephly: -2 points for misspelling "whose" |
| 14:50.18 | Fin | oooh |
| 14:50.26 | phirephly | Mikk: Phirephly hangs his head in shame. |
| 14:50.30 | Mikk | phirephly: Anyway... "ORIG_ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler" is your problem. It's an error. It needs ()s. And you need to go look in blizzard's source code to find out what arguments it expects |
| 14:50.49 | Mikk | i tired just doing () and (event) but that's not enough |
| 14:50.52 | phirephly | event, arg1, arg2, arg3 are what I think it needs. |
| 14:50.55 | Fin | is phirephly crackin under the pressure? a slip now could mean disaster later on - but he could still come back from the edge! now back to the action |
| 14:50.56 | Mikk | tried* |
| 14:50.57 | phirephly | I'll give it a shot. |
| 14:51.22 | phirephly | I cut that code from wowwiki. I figured it was right. Silly me. |
| 14:51.54 | Fin | phirephly: don't forget to update the wiki with the right version |
| 14:52.00 | Fin | this is why I stay away from wikis |
| 14:52.26 | Fin | I'd rather get my out of date information from somewhere I'm not morally bound to put effort into |
| 14:53.11 | phirephly | I made an attempt to vet it through here and seemed to get "use that code at the bottom" as a response. That's what I did. I don't particularly like wiki, but then I don't particularly like democracy either. They're both just barely better than their alternatives. |
| 14:53.27 | Fin | you can tell you're old phirephly, from the double spacing and usage (useage? ARG) of periods to complete sentences. |
| 14:53.47 | phirephly | 46 isn't old. It's "seasoned". :) |
| 14:54.12 | phirephly | I have always communicated this way. It's not about age. It's an OCD thing. |
| 14:54.20 | Fin | I stand corrected |
| 14:54.26 | Fin | yes, exactly |
| 14:54.41 | phirephly | Any of you ever do one of those management communication exercises where you write down the instructions for, say, making toast? |
| 14:54.57 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 14:55.01 | Fin | but since the decline in society due to the use of mobile phones and marijuana, nobody bothers anymore |
| 14:55.06 | Mikk | you're most certainly not using "the code at the bottom" tho |
| 14:55.09 | phirephly | I was the only person that the instructor had ever had who actually wrote down complete instructions. It was 22 pages long. |
| 14:55.16 | Mikk | i wrote "the code at the bottom" |
| 14:55.18 | Codayus | phirephly: Sort of, I took a class on technical writing in which we did a lot of excercises like that. |
| 14:55.20 | Mikk | and it doesn't have that in it :P |
| 14:55.32 | Wobin | phirephly: hehe |
| 14:55.36 | phirephly | Mikk: local ORIG_ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler = ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler; |
| 14:55.46 | Wobin | Complete instructions? =) |
| 14:55.47 | Mikk | .. |
| 14:55.47 | phirephly | Isn't that the line you said had a problem? That's from the wiki. |
| 14:55.51 | Mikk | no |
| 14:55.55 | Mikk | not that line |
| 14:56.00 | phirephly | Oh. Which one was it? |
| 14:56.00 | Mikk | the 2nd last line in your pastey |
| 14:56.12 | Mikk | where you try to call the old function without giving it arguments |
| 14:56.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:55] <phirephly> I was the only person that the instructor had ever had who actually wrote down complete instructions. It was 22 pages long. <--that's not the complete instructions |
| 14:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | complete instructions start with: 1. Be born. |
| 14:56.45 | phirephly | Do'T! I haven't gotten to where I can "see" lua errors very well yet. |
| 14:56.52 | Codayus | Hmm, do we assume the existence of wheat? |
| 14:56.54 | phirephly | Mine did. |
| 14:57.01 | Mikk | you might want to install buggrabber + bugsack |
| 14:57.05 | Mikk | makes loadtime errors a lot more visible |
| 14:57.07 | Fin | phirephly: I respect and admire these traits, and I mean no disprespect whatsoever, but they do seem to be a set of traits which might be commonly seen together in a particular stereotype of individuals (heh, stereotype of individuals, I like that) |
| 14:57.08 | phirephly | I had grinding wheat, but I had planting grain, it was nuts. |
| 14:57.14 | Codayus | Creating a good grain cereal from scratch would be tricky. |
| 14:57.25 | sag_ich_nicht | phirephly: then they were still incomplete, unless you cut some stuff back. |
| 14:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | or they were too generalized :P |
| 14:57.38 | phirephly | Probably, but it satisfied the instructor's definition of "complete". |
| 14:57.56 | phirephly | He stopped me after about 30 minutes of writing. |
| 14:57.58 | mjc | any sexy new addons for me to try? it's been a week |
| 14:58.03 | phirephly | GRPMod |
| 14:58.12 | Mikk | Well.. "Drive nail into plank using hammer in an up-and-down motion" is usually enough |
| 14:58.14 | Fin | I once wrote a 7 page reply in biology to the question "Would you let your wife smoke during pregnancy?" |
| 14:58.24 | phirephly | Persistent language selection. |
| 14:58.30 | Mikk | Most people don't require you to explicitly detail which muscles to use and in which order to fire the neurons to trigger them |
| 14:59.07 | Mikk | Why am I arguing with sag_ich_nicht >.< |
| 14:59.10 | Fin | I thought it quite presumptious of them to assume that I would find the right woman for me; or that I wasn't gay; or really a woman; destined to have a HUSBAND; or a morman; a morman woman; destined to be one of SEVERAL wives! |
| 14:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:57] <phirephly> He stopped me after about 30 minutes of writing. <--lol |
| 14:59.30 | Fin | I got a C- and a detention |
| 14:59.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:59] <+Mikk> Why am I arguing with sag_ich_nicht >.< <--because you wanted to start a fight you can't win? :P |
| 14:59.33 | phirephly | I had an assignment in a nursing program for a 15 page report on a medical topic of my choice and I turned in 175 pages, 3 weeks early, on the history of, current state of, and potential future of organ replacement in humans. |
| 14:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | seriously tho, I'm pretty reasonable, normaly... but i like to troll. a lot. |
| 14:59.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 14:59.54 | Fin | obviously in the wrong test, stupid teawchers |
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| 15:00.05 | Fin | see, couldn't even teach me how to spel |
| 15:00.05 | Codayus | I learned long ago to ask for MAXIMUM length restrictions on assignments. |
| 15:00.17 | Fin | they have one? |
| 15:00.19 | trh | "ckknight is really a room full of a dozen monkeys behind computers working around the clock." <- quote from the us-boards.. lol ;) |
| 15:00.40 | Fin | aha! and you're all the monkeys! |
| 15:00.49 | phirephly | Evidently there wasn't one in this class (college level - professors have grad students to do their scut work, like wading through papers). I got an A+ on it. |
| 15:00.50 | Wobin | trh: link? =) |
| 15:00.57 | trh | Wobin: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=7B1AA981569BE2F05FB26D648049EFA6?topicId=174616076&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 15:03.12 | phirephly | Mikk: My problem is that I don't think I'm getting into GRPMod:CHAT_MSG_SAY() at all. Those diagnostic messages aren't printing. |
| 15:03.51 | phirephly | afk a bit. Kid aggro |
| 15:04.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 15:04.46 | trh | mass silence irl would be a awesome spell ;) |
| 15:05.35 | Fin | I always wanted to play a mute on an RP server |
| 15:06.06 | Fin | to do it properly you couldn't use any spells or shouts and stuff |
| 15:06.14 | Fin | some classes would be quite difficult in that respect |
| 15:06.36 | trh | guess a rogue would be easiest ;) |
| 15:06.46 | Fin | ah yeah |
| 15:06.49 | trh | no spell that "shout" or "call a pet" ;) |
| 15:07.07 | Fin | but to properly RP a rogue, you'd have to ninja all the epics at the end of every group / raid and logout |
| 15:07.29 | Fin | rogue also has problems |
| 15:09.07 | trh | i couldn't imagine to play any char on a PvE server =) |
| 15:09.27 | trh | i really like to just kill someone that wants to take my farming spot :) |
| 15:10.29 | vithos | heh, odd. farming is why i wouldn't want to play on a pvp realm. |
| 15:10.37 | MikkWoW | phirephly: When I added () to the botched function call at the bottom, i got the print messages. But then it errored out further along the path since the function didn't like being called without args |
| 15:10.56 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ejYnmaCFxPI <-wtf :P |
| 15:11.12 | trh | vithos: it's actually more fun on one... doesn't get that boring as on pve :) (i guess:) |
| 15:11.12 | MikkWoW | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.12 | MikkWoW | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.17 | Chompers | this better not be a standard Fisker- link Fisker- |
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| 15:11.33 | phirephly | MikkWoW: Weird. I'm not getting an error at all. I just don't get any of the diagnostic messages. |
| 15:11.48 | Chompers | ahahahaahahah look at him fly |
| 15:12.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:06] <Fin> to do it properly you couldn't use any spells or shouts and stuff <--warlock |
| 15:12.30 | sag_ich_nicht | remember D&D |
| 15:12.36 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: how do they summon their pets? |
| 15:12.48 | Fin | uhm, no :( |
| 15:12.56 | Fin | well yes, but not whatever you're referring to |
| 15:13.07 | sag_ich_nicht | warlocks do not speak to cast their spells :) |
| 15:13.22 | sag_ich_nicht | pet summon might be a problem |
| 15:13.32 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe have him language locked |
| 15:13.45 | phirephly | MikkWoW: I don't get it. I can't get into that part of the code when I run it. |
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| 15:13.50 | sag_ich_nicht | you're not really mute, but close enough :P |
| 15:13.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i played a mute WL on a RP server at some point |
| 15:13.59 | Wobin | sag_ich_nicht: They're not affected by curse of tongues? |
| 15:13.59 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 15:14.08 | Fin | I remember getting the crazy guy in our house to ignite because we conspired with the GM to get us lost in a desert somehow, and we all had to pick straws to find out who we were going to eat to survive so we ate him |
| 15:14.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin: that'd be imba |
| 15:14.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 15:14.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin: that's not nice. |
| 15:14.43 | Fin | he ripped a banister off the wall after explosion |
| 15:14.47 | Fin | I felt guilty |
| 15:15.12 | hypetech | anybody familiar with the differences between decursive and detox? |
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| 15:15.27 | sag_ich_nicht | hypetech: basicially i can figure out how to use decursive, but not detox :P |
| 15:15.34 | hypetech | heh |
| 15:15.49 | MikkWoW | phirephly: the error happens on load |
| 15:15.59 | MikkWoW | phirephly: install buggrabber + bugsack |
| 15:16.02 | hypetech | so does decursive still work where you just click the button and it automatically decurses that person without switching main target? |
| 15:16.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hypetech: yes and no. |
| 15:16.19 | phirephly | Okay. But ... That code shouldn't be happening on load, should it? |
| 15:16.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you get a list of M |
| 15:16.25 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 15:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | *MUF |
| 15:16.32 | phirephly | That should only happen when you get a CHAT_MSG_SAY event, right? |
| 15:16.35 | MikkWoW | phirephly: no, but it's a syntax error. which happens on load. |
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| 15:16.42 | phirephly | Installing now. |
| 15:16.56 | Fisker- | Chompers was pretty awesome that the passenger or whatever just kept on running :P |
| 15:18.18 | Chompers | yeah |
| 15:18.56 | Chompers | not the old men |
| 15:18.57 | Chompers | nooo |
| 15:19.04 | phirephly | MikkWoW: I found Bugsack, but where do I find buggrabber? |
| 15:19.16 | sag_ich_nicht | MikkWoW |
| 15:19.26 | sag_ich_nicht | stop that |
| 15:19.35 | sag_ich_nicht | or i'll start linking last measure and tubgirl. |
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| 15:19.47 | phirephly | tubgirl <shudder> |
| 15:19.53 | hypetech | last measure? |
| 15:19.54 | Sirow|NA | oh no not tubgirl >_< |
| 15:20.13 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and the mother of all shocksites |
| 15:20.15 | sag_ich_nicht | goatse :P |
| 15:20.22 | Fin | it lives and lives |
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| 15:20.53 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 15:21.15 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 30m 3s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 15:21.15 | Fin | question: does holy shit still smell? |
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| 15:21.33 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 15:21.54 | sag_ich_nicht | hypetech: basicially decursive gives you a number of buttons equal to members in your party/raid(including pets) |
| 15:22.12 | hypetech | hmm |
| 15:22.15 | sag_ich_nicht | each time someone gets a debuff that you can dispell the frame belonging to them lights up |
| 15:22.30 | MikkWoW | phirephly: buggrabber is also on files.wowace.com |
| 15:22.37 | sag_ich_nicht | you then click it, ctrl+click it, shift+click it or alt + click it to remove the debuff, depending on the debuff |
| 15:22.38 | MikkWoW | phirephly: prolly with a bunch of !!!s before it |
| 15:22.44 | sag_ich_nicht | (the color is different, depending on the debuff) |
| 15:22.49 | hypetech | I see |
| 15:22.52 | phirephly | Found it. |
| 15:22.57 | mjc | sedatedChipmunk: way to infinite loop |
| 15:22.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i play a paladin |
| 15:23.00 | sag_ich_nicht | so i have it pretty easy |
| 15:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it's just clicking :P |
| 15:23.05 | hypetech | <-- mage |
| 15:23.15 | MikkWoW | also easy :P |
| 15:23.40 | hypetech | since I already use grid, is there any way to implement click casting debuffing without having to use decursive? I already have it to where it lights up when somebody has a curse |
| 15:23.46 | cncfanatics | decursive is basicly a very advanced version of whack-a-mole for raids |
| 15:23.49 | MikkWoW | hypetech: of course |
| 15:23.50 | cncfanatics | same for grid |
| 15:23.54 | nevcairiel | man if one person is actually using KTM, its really screwing everything in Threat up |
| 15:23.57 | CIA-22 | 03ruinna * r43781 10FuBar_BongosFu/ (BongosFu.lua README.txt): FuBar_BongosFu: modified default values at Tullers request |
| 15:23.57 | MikkWoW | hypetech: install clique or click2cast |
| 15:24.01 | mjc | hypetech: click2cast |
| 15:24.04 | nevcairiel | can i toggle disabling of KTM receiving ? :/ |
| 15:24.09 | MikkWoW | nevcairiel: yes |
| 15:24.10 | cncfanatics | yes in options |
| 15:24.10 | phirephly | MikkWoW: !Buggrabber was in the BugSack folder I downloaded from curse anyway. |
| 15:24.11 | trh | nevcairiel: sure |
| 15:24.14 | cncfanatics | why does it screw up though ? |
| 15:24.19 | cncfanatics | i'm the only one in my guild that uses threat |
| 15:24.20 | hypetech | MikkWoW: what's the difference between clique and click2cast? |
| 15:24.23 | cncfanatics | and it does fine with all the KTMs |
| 15:24.36 | mjc | clique isn't on the svn but it's nice |
| 15:24.36 | nevcairiel | i can disable KTM Broadcast |
| 15:24.42 | hypetech | ah |
| 15:24.43 | mjc | c2c is on the svn and it works fine |
| 15:24.44 | nevcairiel | but not receival .. i think |
| 15:24.44 | nevcairiel | :o |
| 15:24.54 | trh | nevcairiel: "show ktm data" or sth like that |
| 15:25.14 | MikkWoW | clique was written by cladhaire and thus must be shunned by all True Ace Believers (regardless of it being an excellent piece of code like everything else he's written) |
| 15:25.20 | MikkWoW | C2c is Ace and thus kosher |
| 15:25.22 | CIA-22 | 03poull 07poull * r43782 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: Local tweaks. Ordering functions into categories. |
| 15:25.26 | sag_ich_nicht | MikkWoW |
| 15:25.28 | sag_ich_nicht | stop trolling |
| 15:25.33 | sag_ich_nicht | and go play what ever class you play |
| 15:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | wait, MikkWoW what class do you play? :P |
| 15:26.09 | MikkWoW | lessee.. warlock, pally, rogue, druid, priest |
| 15:26.11 | Xyphor | He sounds to me like a rogue somehow ^^ |
| 15:26.14 | Fisker- | Ace is our true gods |
| 15:26.22 | MikkWoW | rogue being the least played one |
| 15:26.38 | Sirow|NA | amen! |
| 15:26.54 | MikkWoW | i had the idea to level him up with herbalism+mining and park him in northern kalimdor |
| 15:26.58 | Fisker- | it has considerable amounts of wisdom |
| 15:27.01 | MikkWoW | then about the time i hit 60, i got wind of TBC coming |
| 15:27.05 | sag_ich_nicht | MikkWoW: so what's your main? :P |
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| 15:27.09 | Fisker- | with stories of wisdom and charity and burning down anything non-Ace |
| 15:27.15 | phirephly | MikkWoW: http://ace.pastey.net/70804 |
| 15:27.45 | phirephly | MikkWoW: I ran it just like that and got NO errors. I also never executed any code in GRPMod:CHAT_MSG_SAY() (none of the diagnostic messages appeared). |
| 15:27.56 | MikkWoW | sag_ich_nicht: used to be the warlock, but using the pally whenever more healing was needed. mostly been playing the druid in tbc tho |
| 15:28.45 | MikkWoW | phirephly: are you getting the "restoring prior language selection of" print? |
| 15:28.50 | phirephly | Yes. |
| 15:28.55 | Galka | Tablet error: http://ace.pastey.net/70805 |
| 15:28.56 | phirephly | And language toggle still works . |
| 15:29.13 | MikkWoW | i don't know what to say then |
| 15:29.14 | MikkWoW | i get the prints |
| 15:29.17 | phirephly | Everything works except I can't get into the GRPMod:CHAT_MSG_SAY() code. |
| 15:29.36 | phirephly | Do I need to "register" that event in an XML file first? |
| 15:29.42 | MikkWoW | no |
| 15:29.52 | MikkWoW | i just took that pastey and shoved it in a .lua file in an otherwise empty addon |
| 15:29.54 | MikkWoW | executed just fine |
| 15:30.06 | MikkWoW | after fixing the function call that is |
| 15:30.13 | MikkWoW | i'll retr |
| 15:30.18 | phirephly | and you just changed it to ()? |
| 15:30.28 | MikkWoW | yes |
| 15:30.33 | phirephly | I did this: ORIG_ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler(event, arg1, arg2, arg3) |
| 15:30.34 | MikkWoW | (and got errors later on like i said) |
| 15:30.49 | phirephly | Mostly because that's what I need to do - I need to change (potentially) the arg3 value. |
| 15:31.10 | MikkWoW | right.. i'm getting the prints |
| 15:31.25 | phirephly | Not me. Wierd. |
| 15:31.27 | MikkWoW | and then an error because the function call still isn't right |
| 15:31.31 | phirephly | You get them on "/say" right? |
| 15:31.35 | MikkWoW | yes |
| 15:31.43 | phirephly | Weird, weird, weird. |
| 15:31.55 | phirephly | I need to go turn off my other mods and see if one of them is interfering with this. |
| 15:31.58 | MikkWoW | anyway.. i'm off to actually playing wow now :P |
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| 15:32.35 | phirephly | Thanks! |
| 15:33.16 | cncfanatics | is someone feeling sharritable atm ? |
| 15:34.28 | Fisker- | WTF? |
| 15:35.17 | Fisker- | man |
| 15:35.27 | Fisker- | Thunderbird 3 nightly builds are unstable as shit |
| 15:35.30 | Fisker- | I'M GONNA COMPLAIN |
| 15:37.07 | Fin | where's the best place to find out the answer to a question like "have Blizzard included a custom trim() function, and if so what are the details?" |
| 15:37.41 | Fin | I checked WoWWiki, but it's got this big warning about being out of date and I want to make sure I'm not using something that's not there anymore |
| 15:37.49 | Fin | or not what it used to be |
| 15:38.22 | sylvanaar | what aer you guys doing |
| 15:38.28 | cog|book | Fin: strtrim |
| 15:38.50 | CIA-22 | 03adelea * r43783 10GridManaBars/ (GMBLocale-deDE.lua GridManaBars.lua): |
| 15:38.50 | CIA-22 | GridManaBars |
| 15:38.50 | CIA-22 | - slight code reorg |
| 15:38.50 | CIA-22 | - added some missing deDE translations |
| 15:38.50 | CIA-22 | - when dead the powerbar follows the 'show health as full' mechanic |
| 15:38.51 | CIA-22 | - hopefully caught the remaining nil checks |
| 15:39.10 | sylvanaar | i couldnt find a sv cleaner anywhere and screw >> robocopy << |
| 15:39.12 | Fin | cog|book: cheers - is there somewhere listing custom functions etc. other than WoWWiki you know of? |
| 15:39.22 | Fin | syl |
| 15:39.36 | Fin | do you want a script to remove unused SVs |
| 15:39.37 | Fin | or |
| 15:39.40 | cog|book | Fin: Iriel's 2.0.x changes threads, though you'll have to google them out of oblivion |
| 15:39.51 | Fin | do you want a script to clean unused data from SVs |
| 15:39.58 | Fin | cog|book: OK, thanks |
| 15:40.00 | sylvanaar | i wrote it myself its ok |
| 15:40.12 | Fin | oh, heh, well done :) |
| 15:40.13 | cog|book | str = strtrim(strToTrim [, strOfCharsToTrim]) |
| 15:40.24 | kaiden | I'm never having roommates again.. |
| 15:40.29 | Fin | why screw robocopy? |
| 15:40.32 | kaiden | my roommate just walked in and said i'm moving out in 10 days |
| 15:40.41 | cog|book | default behavior is strtrim(str, "\t\r\n\v ") |
| 15:40.47 | Fin | perfect |
| 15:40.47 | kaiden | i'm like erm.. ok.. what about rent for this month.. he's like sorry i can't afford it |
| 15:40.51 | kaiden | i had to rent a new place |
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| 15:40.58 | Fin | that's great cog|book, thank you muchly for the help |
| 15:41.06 | Fisker- | lol |
| 15:41.08 | Fisker- | i love fanboys |
| 15:41.29 | Fisker- | Some guy wrote an article for a newspaper because of the "Will it blend?" video with the iphone |
| 15:41.58 | sylvanaar | robocopy stinks |
| 15:42.01 | Fisker- | Calling it a super-smartphone and suggesting that one should try and "blend the guy who is blending the iphone" |
| 15:42.03 | Fisker- | FANBOYS FTW |
| 15:42.17 | kaiden | i lub my iPhone! |
| 15:42.20 | Fisker- | especially in nationwide newspapers! |
| 15:42.33 | Fin | well it got you talking about it |
| 15:42.35 | kaiden | i would mate with it but.. incompatibility problems you know :P |
| 15:42.39 | Fin | so their marketing can't be that bad |
| 15:43.02 | Fisker- | Well i surely hope that the newspaper doesn't concern itself with another company's marketing |
| 15:43.06 | Fin | it's quite amazing actualy |
| 15:43.08 | Fin | +l |
| 15:43.21 | Fin | everyone it seems, everywhere, talking about this phone |
| 15:43.26 | Fin | that's impressive |
| 15:43.40 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r43784 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-koKR.lua: |
| 15:43.40 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 15:43.40 | CIA-22 | - Update koKR |
| 15:43.42 | Fisker- | i'm trying to protect them from the iphone |
| 15:43.49 | Fisker- | accidently kill any fanboy if needed be |
| 15:43.51 | Fin | you're doing a bad job |
| 15:43.55 | Fisker- | "Oh he just fell of a cliff" |
| 15:44.03 | Fisker- | "Yeah it was only him and me" |
| 15:44.07 | Fisker- | "Yeah i asked him out there" |
| 15:44.21 | kaiden | isn't it funny how the few always think they can outweigh the opinions of the masses? |
| 15:44.24 | Fin | the murder and wanton violence, sure, but personally I'd been almost iphone-mention-free for about 18 hours |
| 15:44.27 | kaiden | +t |
| 15:44.44 | Fin | kaiden: that's because they're right |
| 15:44.57 | kaiden | Fin, in their own mind i'm certain they are ;) |
| 15:45.03 | Fisker- | fortunately it's not much of conversation-topic here |
| 15:45.08 | kenlyric | the issue here is that there is no right or wrong. |
| 15:45.15 | Fisker- | we're not stupid (general prejudice ftw) |
| 15:45.53 | Fin | if only we understood, we'd see that they're right |
| 15:45.54 | kenlyric | the other issue is that fuck the iphone, I want my video ipod. |
| 15:46.01 | Fin | we just don't get it |
| 15:46.16 | Fin | just ask them, seriously |
| 15:46.23 | Fin | they'll back me up on this one |
| 15:46.32 | kenlyric | Fin: I'm frequently told that by baseball fanboys. If I only understood the game I wouldn't think it was a boring pile of crap. |
| 15:46.37 | Thrae | Love is what makes the world go 'round! |
| 15:46.42 | Fisker- | I think the problem is that people will want to say this is "the best mobile phone out there" |
| 15:46.54 | Fisker- | when they just think it has a cool design and a very good interface |
| 15:46.57 | kaiden | the iPhone IS the best mobile phone out there... for me ;) |
| 15:47.07 | kaiden | it's got all the features i want, with the look i want |
| 15:47.09 | Fisker- | i mean most technology advanced |
| 15:47.10 | Fisker- | :P |
| 15:47.12 | kenlyric | Fisker-: maybe that's their qualification for best. |
| 15:47.23 | kaiden | Fisker-, well they would just be stupid to say that |
| 15:47.25 | Fin | kenlyric: essentially, by not listening to them, you are willfully remaining ignorant of something of actual real life importance |
| 15:47.26 | kaiden | it's missing 3g.. and gps |
| 15:47.29 | Fin | and I tell you what, that pisses me off |
| 15:47.32 | Thrae | Fisker-: You mean it's -not- the most technologically advanced. |
| 15:47.36 | kaiden | even fanboys can realize what it's missing |
| 15:47.47 | Fisker- | Thrae yeah i know it isn't |
| 15:47.58 | kaiden | however, as far as sheer power yes the iPhone is the current most powerful mobile phone out there |
| 15:48.07 | Fisker- | but people who usually come up on the subject and say they want one usually mention how it's the most advanced smartphone out there |
| 15:48.22 | kenlyric | it's missing 3g primarily because the network its on is missing 3g, is that correct? |
| 15:48.24 | Fisker- | the only thing that is remotely more advanced is the multi-touch touchscreen |
| 15:48.28 | Thrae | My PPC 6700 does -everything- I want it to do and more -- the iPhone falls -way- short. |
| 15:48.41 | kenlyric | my phone has no Gs, so I know nothing about this concept. |
| 15:48.42 | kaiden | kenlyric, well it's also missing hsdpa and hsdpa is att's flagship product |
| 15:48.56 | Fisker- | kenlyric obviously they want people to buy the 3G version when there's enough network support |
| 15:48.56 | Fin | cog|book: is there somewhere I can find a copy of the source for those functions? are they in FrameXML somewhere? I want to see if they do any error checking or set types or anything |
| 15:48.57 | Fisker- | :) |
| 15:49.08 | cog|book | Fin: they're in C++ |
| 15:49.10 | Fin | (doubt it, but I can always check) |
| 15:49.12 | Fin | ah |
| 15:49.17 | kaiden | actually from the rumors i hear the chip has 3g support |
| 15:49.25 | kaiden | they just haven't added 3g to the software or network yet |
| 15:49.28 | cog|book | Fin: though I have implementations of them in http://sf.net/projects/lua511wow |
| 15:49.34 | kaiden | i dunno how correct those rumors are |
| 15:49.44 | Fisker- | sources in europe has already confirmed that the iphone in europe WILL launch with 3g support |
| 15:49.46 | kaiden | that's just what's floating around the websites of the people that are hacking it to bits |
| 15:49.55 | Fin | cog|book: aha, awesome. I have that downloaded, I'll see if I can get it working... I was a bit hesitant cos I've already got some stuff "installed" |
| 15:50.05 | Fin | I was thinking of giving WoWBench a try |
| 15:50.06 | Fisker- | One thing you atleast could call an "advantage" is that most of the problems could be fixed with new software |
| 15:50.16 | Thrae | My PPC 6700 also runs custom firmware too... |
| 15:50.25 | kaiden | Fisker-, which is true :) plus come on man.. it's osx |
| 15:50.32 | kaiden | everyone knows osx is distilled joy |
| 15:50.39 | kenlyric | but yeah, screw the iphone, gimme video ipod. please now. |
| 15:50.47 | kaiden | kenlyric, iPhone is video iPod |
| 15:50.48 | kaiden | lol |
| 15:50.59 | kenlyric | it's tiny overpriced video ipod. |
| 15:51.07 | kenlyric | take out the useless phone and internet crap. |
| 15:51.11 | kaiden | not really when you think about it |
| 15:51.16 | Fin | iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone |
| 15:51.17 | kenlyric | when I think about it, yes. |
| 15:51.19 | Fin | iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone iphone |
| 15:51.21 | kaiden | lets look at other pda's that are even less powerful |
| 15:51.23 | Fin | iphone |
| 15:51.26 | kaiden | those are 500-599 each |
| 15:51.40 | kaiden | iPhone is 599 for the 8gb model and has the iPod built in ;) |
| 15:51.50 | kaiden | biggest complaint i have is NO flash :( |
| 15:51.54 | kenlyric | I don't want an pda. I want an ipod. a video one. |
| 15:52.07 | kaiden | as in no flash memory expansion slot |
| 15:52.08 | Thrae | The problem with the iPhone is that it tries to combine an iPod into it, yet its lack of high-speed internet removes the thing that would really be a huge selling point -- streaming audio and video! |
| 15:52.09 | kenlyric | I have my internet on computers. |
| 15:52.11 | kaiden | not flash media support |
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| 15:52.41 | kaiden | Thrae, well for people in the area i'm in high speed internet is readily and freely available |
| 15:52.45 | Fin | streaming audio and video... on a tiny weeny monitor? |
| 15:52.46 | Fisker- | developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers |
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| 15:52.52 | kaiden | there are wifi points everywhere you look here |
| 15:52.54 | kaiden | most of them unsecured |
| 15:53.08 | Thrae | kaiden: Well, you don't really need a -phone- for that |
| 15:53.16 | Fin | damn thing's acting up |
| 15:53.20 | kenlyric | put in a hdd, take out the phone and internet crap. rumor is, it's coming in august. |
| 15:53.36 | kaiden | Thrae, no, but it's really run browsing your e-mail while your stuck in a car in traffic (not driving obviously) |
| 15:53.52 | kaiden | run = fun |
| 15:54.12 | Thrae | Fin: Actually, I wasn't being sarcastic. That's one of the major things that would warrant the $600 price tag, IMO. |
| 15:54.46 | Thrae | kaiden: I can do that with a "free" cell phone, unless you were just speaking in general ;) |
| 15:54.46 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 15:54.53 | sag_ich_nicht | hell YEAH, it's only saturday. |
| 15:55.01 | kaiden | Thrae, i was speaking in general :) |
| 15:55.17 | kaiden | i skipped the whole mp3 craze even though i wanted an mp3 player bad (as in portable) |
| 15:55.24 | kaiden | so the iPhone really tied a few knots for me |
| 15:55.33 | Fin | Thrae: but would anyone actually *want* that? other than because it's cool for a bit? would people seriously want to have tiny video and audio at OK quality? I just don't understand why |
| 15:56.07 | phirephly | Is there an Ace2 function that encapsulates the chat send functions? |
| 15:56.09 | Thrae | kaiden: I have a laptop in my car, I connect to the EVDO network through my phone and browse my email on my laptop -- much easier that way. For MP3s, I use my laptop or my PPC 6700 phone. |
| 15:56.17 | kenlyric | Fin: have you seen the sale numbers for ipods with video? |
| 15:56.18 | Fin | phirephly: yes |
| 15:56.23 | kenlyric | there's obviously a market there. |
| 15:56.39 | phirephly | Fin: What is it, please? |
| 15:57.12 | Fin | kenlyric: I am a firm believer in the accuracy of sales numbers to reflect the quality, cunning, perseverance, and salary cheques of the advertising agency being used |
| 15:57.15 | Fin | but not much else |
| 15:57.18 | Fin | phirephly: Prat |
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| 15:57.24 | Thrae | kaiden: I'm part of the "frugle" market ;) My PPC 6700 does decent quality MP3s w/ expandable flash memory at $300 used. |
| 15:57.28 | phirephly | Fin: Prat? |
| 15:57.40 | Fin | think Prattle |
| 15:57.51 | Thrae | kaiden: If I don't have my phone, so does my laptop and my Nintendo DS. |
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| 15:58.36 | Fin | kenlyric: tell me, please, just describe, one of these situations where your very expensive mobile video player will demonstrate its worth on a regular basis? |
| 15:59.10 | phirephly | Fin: Ah. Got it. A scandinavian thing. |
| 15:59.21 | Fin | damn foreigners |
| 15:59.33 | Adys | oO |
| 15:59.43 | Fin | I am going to have to flagellate myself now |
| 15:59.44 | Fisker- | ARE YOU QUESTIONING THE AWESOMENESS OF THE VIKING EMPIRE?! |
| 15:59.51 | Fin | oh! Adys |
| 15:59.56 | Adys | Fin :) |
| 16:00.06 | Thrae | Phone w/ MP3, Video, Video Recording, PDA, Email, Internet, SSH, EVDO, Expandable Flash Memory, etc. == $300. Nintendo DS w/ MP3, Emulators, GBA & DS ROMs, Expandable Flash Memory == $100. |
| 16:00.13 | Fin | 0http://fin.instinct.org/bits/message-for-adys.txt |
| 16:00.21 | Thrae | Now compare that vs the iPhone at ~$600. |
| 16:00.22 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong Fin |
| 16:00.37 | Fin | you said that before |
| 16:00.40 | Fisker- | you're forgetting the 2000$ worth of service plan Thrae :D |
| 16:00.45 | Thrae | The Nintendo DS also has Video too |
| 16:00.58 | Thrae | Fisker-: Oops, good point! The iPhone's service plan is a bit pricer then usual |
| 16:01.16 | Thrae | s:pricer:pricier: |
| 16:01.27 | Fisker- | only glad the longest mobile contract here can only be 6 months |
| 16:01.33 | Adys | Fin: That's worth at least a 8/10 on a joke finscale |
| 16:01.55 | Fisker- | -1/10 Adys |
| 16:01.56 | Adys | Im serious man, Im impressed for such a small quote :) |
| 16:02.19 | phirephly | Okay, that was nasty. |
| 16:02.30 | Matrix110 | Thrae but the iPhone enlarges your epeen more than any other Smartphone! |
| 16:02.52 | Dustwhisper | Actually |
| 16:02.55 | Dustwhisper | i would say it lowers it |
| 16:03.09 | Chompers | its more like EPEEN |
| 16:03.09 | Fin | phirephly: what was nasty? |
| 16:03.10 | phirephly | I captured a CHAT_MSG_SAY event, did some massaging and tried to issue a SendChatMessage() command and it looped (I captured my own messages endlessly). How would I go about sending the SendChatMessage() back out and NOT loop like this? |
| 16:03.14 | Dustwhisper | it's loke goths, only goths like goths |
| 16:03.19 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:03.34 | Thrae | Matrix110: My Nintendo DS uses Linux. That is like dividing your epeen by 0. |
| 16:03.41 | Dustwhisper | is it possible to get X-Perl GrimReaper to work without having xperl =D? |
| 16:03.48 | Fisker- | but the problem is, there's so many goths it's almost becoming a human culture that should be annihilated but alas that would be against the laws |
| 16:04.15 | Fin | return self.hooks["ChatEdit_HandleChatType"](editBox, msg, command, send) |
| 16:04.27 | Fin | don't use that exactly |
| 16:04.32 | Fin | I wish I wasn't using that exactly |
| 16:04.42 | phirephly | Fisker: Simple, invite all the Goths to some place where ther are no actual laws to speak of, like, say, Alabama, and then slay them all there. |
| 16:04.42 | Fin | but that's the general idea |
| 16:04.59 | Fisker- | good idea phirephly |
| 16:05.00 | phirephly | Fin: Maybe too general. I don't get it yet. |
| 16:05.06 | Fisker- | but social life + goth does not compute |
| 16:05.13 | Fin | oh, wait |
| 16:05.14 | Fisker- | rather raid their myspace pages until they become heroes |
| 16:05.19 | Fin | phirephly: are you hooking a function yet? |
| 16:05.28 | Chompers | what about the chavs, can't forget about them |
| 16:05.37 | phirephly | Lemme post what I have on pastey and I'll get back to you. |
| 16:05.46 | Thrae | Becoming a Goth is how you conform to non-conformity. |
| 16:06.17 | Fin | phirephly: arg, I'm just going to embarass myself and expose my ignorance if I try and explain anything to you, please ask other people |
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| 16:06.37 | phirephly | Fin: We already know about your ignorance. Give it a shot. :) http://ace.pastey.net/70809 |
| 16:07.17 | Fin | phirephly: I don't care, as long as you don't tell me I'm happy to live in denial |
| 16:07.43 | phirephly | Line 40 is where I try to send the chat. I need a way to throw that even back to Blizzard without catching it myself. |
| 16:07.44 | Fin | phirephly: OK, one thing you can do is hook a function that's used somewhere |
| 16:08.10 | phirephly | That's where this all started. |
| 16:08.29 | phirephly | I have it hooked. I just need to throw it back, with slightly modified arguments. |
| 16:08.32 | Fin | eg, self:Hook('SendChatMessage') |
| 16:08.46 | phirephly | That's an Ace thing? |
| 16:08.53 | Fin | phirephly: you're registering events that get triggered, and have a function that runs when it happens |
| 16:08.56 | Fin | no |
| 16:09.02 | Fin | it's a Blizzard UI thing |
| 16:09.10 | Fin | Ace has an interface for it of course |
| 16:09.42 | phirephly | Hmmmm. My concern isn't that what you say won't work, but that it's incompatible with what I took from the wiki. Can you see if I should be removing any of my existing code if I add that somewhere? |
| 16:09.58 | phirephly | afk a minute. Kid aggro <again> |
| 16:11.50 | trh | phirephly: you need feign death ;) |
| 16:12.24 | phirephly | No, I need a freeze trap for my 5yo. Honestly, that boy only has two speeds. Flat out running and stop. |
| 16:12.36 | Fin | phirephly: I have a module for Prat that tries to allow users to alias commands. it hooks a function that gets called as part of the user typing -> command being processed chain. the only place I hook into any part of the UI (I think!) is with this line: |
| 16:12.44 | Fin | self:SecureHook('ChatEdit_ParseText') |
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| 16:13.01 | Fin | I hope that shows that it should work? I might be answering the wrong question here |
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| 16:13.25 | Fin | I'm genuinely not comfortable with the subject and I seriously think someone else should be answering |
| 16:13.39 | phirephly | How about deregistering the event? Could I deregister, make the call, and then reregister? Wouldn't that do it? Not very elegant, but I wouldn't loop. |
| 16:13.43 | Fin | also I'm pretty sure the above line is part of why some stuff isn't working properly |
| 16:14.51 | Fin | well a) OK, try it; b) inelegance is the reason you shouldn't do it; c) if you don't understand why it doesn't work, it's likely to break in the future |
| 16:15.17 | Fin | d) ask notFin |
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| 16:17.16 | Knaledge | Tuller nice work :) |
| 16:17.41 | Knaledge | does he hang out here usually> |
| 16:17.52 | Fin | balls flapping |
| 16:17.59 | Fin | no |
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| 16:19.27 | phirephly | Lemme see if I can find a deregister or unregister command. |
| 16:19.57 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r43785 10Capping/locals/localization-zhCN.lua: |
| 16:19.57 | CIA-22 | Capping |
| 16:19.57 | CIA-22 | - add zhCN local |
| 16:20.30 | Fisker- | Tuller has visited here once in a while |
| 16:20.46 | Fin | self:UnregisterAllEvents() |
| 16:22.33 | Knaledge | @ Fisker: does he have a channel? |
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| 16:22.51 | Knaledge | or is it usually just communicating with him via comments on his boards? |
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| 16:24.02 | Fin | Knaledge: are you sure this "Tuller" really exists..? |
| 16:24.16 | Fisker- | Knaledge i doubt it |
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| 16:27.12 | Silviu- | ~seen Tuller |
| 16:27.33 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 7m 39s ago, saying: 'either way, I'm rewriting the search window :)'. |
| 16:27.42 | sbu | ~emulate ckknight |
| 16:27.43 | purl | <@ckknight> what do I get out of it? |
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| 16:27.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 16:28.02 | Matrix110 | ~emulate sbu |
| 16:28.05 | Silviu- | He exists :) |
| 16:28.24 | Matrix110 | ~emulate Tuller |
| 16:28.31 | Matrix110 | :-( |
| 16:29.07 | Matrix110 | ~emulate vharr |
| 16:29.24 | Matrix110 | purl you smell |
| 16:29.36 | Knaledge | ~emulate ckknight |
| 16:29.37 | purl | <@ckknight> f*ck you, guy |
| 16:29.42 | Fin | ~emulate Silviu- |
| 16:29.48 | ckknight | bah |
| 16:29.52 | ckknight | I have work today |
| 16:30.08 | Knaledge | I would have except we shipped NCAA PS3 early |
| 16:30.10 | Knaledge | woot |
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| 16:31.12 | Knaledge | So I was wondering - is there an addon that turns in faction items automatically? |
| 16:31.42 | Knaledge | because last night I swear... I went from honored to exalted with scryers bt wanted to shoot myself having to click back and forth back and forth... and those Blood Elf female audio cues... UGHHHHH |
| 16:31.59 | Fin | ~emulate Silviu- |
| 16:31.59 | purl | ACTION He exists :) |
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| 16:33.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 16:33.53 | Silviu- | :) |
| 16:34.11 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r43786 10Capping/locals/localization-zhCN.lua: |
| 16:34.12 | CIA-22 | Capping |
| 16:34.12 | CIA-22 | - fix zhCN local |
| 16:35.02 | Chompers | Knaledge: Automaton |
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| 16:37.58 | Knaledge | awesome I will check it out |
| 16:40.47 | cncfanatics | ckknight, are you here ? |
| 16:41.00 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r43787 10Proximo/ (7 files): |
| 16:41.00 | CIA-22 | Proximo: |
| 16:41.00 | CIA-22 | - Made class icons click-able |
| 16:41.00 | CIA-22 | - Added Party Chat as option for announcements |
| 16:41.00 | CIA-22 | - Added optional low health announcement and sound |
| 16:41.01 | CIA-22 | - Lots of minor code cleanup |
| 16:41.08 | durcyn | Automaton still uses Metrognome, fair warning. |
| 16:41.36 | weab | for what |
| 16:44.08 | Knaledge | what is that? |
| 16:44.18 | Knaledge | I just downloaded "AutoTurnIn" it was more descriptive |
| 16:44.21 | cncfanatics | Knaledge, no autoturnin ? |
| 16:44.40 | Fisker- | hahahaha |
| 16:44.44 | Fisker- | i totally owned this guy |
| 16:44.50 | Fisker- | he kept saying i was gay |
| 16:45.00 | Fisker- | and he said i was the only one to be able to get something up my ass |
| 16:45.03 | Knaledge | and you were like , "ASK YOUR DAD!" |
| 16:45.12 | Fisker- | And i told him what freak asshole he must have since he couldn't get anything in it |
| 16:45.20 | weab | durcyn: what part of automaton uses metrognome? |
| 16:45.21 | Fisker- | Then he said "You're the only one with experience" |
| 16:45.24 | Fin | there's nothing wrong with being gay |
| 16:45.35 | Knaledge | weab don't you make automaton? |
| 16:45.40 | weab | yes |
| 16:45.48 | weab | that's why i'm confused about what he's talking about. |
| 16:45.49 | Knaledge | so what part uses metrognome? |
| 16:45.53 | Fisker- | Oh so you're that stupid that you need experience on the subject to actually know about basics like physics and other stuff? |
| 16:45.55 | weab | it doesn't. |
| 16:45.59 | Knaledge | there ya go |
| 16:45.59 | Fisker- | Then he stopped writing :D |
| 16:46.04 | cncfanatics | anyone some experience with waterfall ? the current code keeps crashing but I have no clue why, could someone please check it ? |
| 16:46.16 | cncfanatics | please someone -.- |
| 16:46.18 | durcyn | oh. looks like i'm wrong, metro's been ripped out. |
| 16:46.20 | cncfanatics | i'm blocked on coding cuz of that |
| 16:46.27 | Fin | there really isn't |
| 16:46.30 | Knaledge | what does automaton do? |
| 16:46.40 | Knaledge | I mean a ll I want it to do is just turn in faction items, thats all. |
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| 16:46.53 | Knaledge | if autoturnin is more lean in that sense, thats all I need. |
| 16:46.59 | Knaledge | but is there an advantage to using automaton? |
| 16:47.14 | vithos | automaton does other things as well |
| 16:47.15 | durcyn | if you just want turnins, use autoturnin. automaton does lots of crap. |
| 16:47.27 | Knaledge | like... |
| 16:47.29 | Knaledge | heh |
| 16:47.44 | vithos | if only i could remember. |
| 16:47.45 | durcyn | like http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Automaton/Automaton.toc figure it out for yourself |
| 16:48.02 | Chompers | what's wrong with Metrognome? |
| 16:48.04 | Knaledge | k I'll stick with autoturnin |
| 16:48.09 | Chompers | what is it? |
| 16:48.12 | Knaledge | thanks durcyn |
| 16:48.23 | sag_ich_nicht | #modules\Whine.lua |
| 16:48.28 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 16:48.31 | weab | Knaledge: http://wowace.com/wiki/Automaton |
| 16:51.28 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43788 10WoWHead-Cart-Scraper/cart_db_generator.htm: |
| 16:51.28 | CIA-22 | WoWHead-Cart-Scraper: |
| 16:51.28 | CIA-22 | - adding my parser written in php so people can choose if they want to go php or |
| 16:51.28 | CIA-22 | ruby. It is GPLed,so feel free to do whatever you want with it. It has been |
| 16:51.28 | CIA-22 | renamed to .htm cause the server won't let me commit files with .php extension |
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| 16:57.29 | Shirik | heh |
| 16:57.35 | Shirik | no php files, probably a good idea |
| 16:58.15 | [gk]Hotphoenix | even .htm is probably a risk |
| 16:58.21 | Fisker- | can't see why |
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| 16:58.26 | Fisker- | .html is probably more a risk than php is |
| 16:58.49 | Shirik | well my server processes .html with mod-php |
| 16:58.56 | Shirik | so I just checked it but it's not doing so |
| 16:59.00 | Shirik | but meh |
| 16:59.03 | [gk]Hotphoenix | php is executable but .htm posses a lot of user end risk |
| 16:59.13 | Shirik | yeah but no server risk |
| 16:59.40 | Shirik | php, on the other hand, there are all kinds of viral php files |
| 16:59.47 | Shirik | most notably n52 |
| 17:00.19 | Knaledge | I like FuXPFu |
| 17:00.22 | xyu | how do i "load" prat. when it's set to LoD. :( |
| 17:00.31 | xyu | i want the name coloring at least. |
| 17:00.44 | sylvanaar | phirephly you know, you may want to install prat, even if just for its display of what is happening in the chat api - but you just can test |
| 17:01.23 | Wobin | Knaledge: \O/ |
| 17:01.55 | sylvanaar | xyu you disable all its modules except maybe playernames and enable autolod |
| 17:02.42 | xyu | I see Prat -2.0- or whatever in my fubar |
| 17:02.45 | xyu | and i cannot manipulate it |
| 17:02.50 | xyu | i can't turn on or off modules |
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| 17:03.22 | xyu | maybe i have autolod disabled . i'll cehck |
| 17:03.23 | xyu | check* |
| 17:03.58 | Slarre | Hello i got a question about Ag_Unitframes, when i enter wow i cant see any Health bar, Mana bars etc, what the problem? :S |
| 17:04.39 | xyu | are they enabled? :D |
| 17:05.31 | Fisker- | http://www.fuldblodshumanist.dk/content/desktop.jpg <-lesson 1: When posting desktops perhaps blank out any incriminating channel names |
| 17:05.33 | Knaledge | @ Wobin: oh hey haha |
| 17:06.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:06.06 | Chompers | #gaye.... |
| 17:06.08 | Chompers | something |
| 17:06.27 | Knaledge | I do like it actually. ONe thing I was wondering - since you remove the XP bar is there any way to get the default UI to also remove the space? |
| 17:06.29 | Fisker- | #gayge actually |
| 17:06.36 | Fisker- | someone found out it's "#gaygeeks" |
| 17:06.38 | durcyn | Chompers: "gay german-something", most likely |
| 17:06.43 | durcyn | or that |
| 17:06.52 | Chompers | 'gaygermans :O |
| 17:06.57 | durcyn | most are. |
| 17:07.20 | Fisker- | ! |
| 17:08.53 | sylvanaar | Fisker- lol |
| 17:10.07 | Slarre | Xyu : no they arent |
| 17:11.12 | sylvanaar | xyu you know that happens when i tab in and out of the game sometimes |
| 17:11.48 | Knaledge | he must be gay |
| 17:11.51 | sylvanaar | xyu and i havent been able to move my prat icon for a while |
| 17:11.54 | Knaledge | hes still running windows 2000 |
| 17:13.50 | Slarre | I can't see any Health bars, Mana Bars etc, whats the problem? :| |
| 17:14.32 | Slarre | any idea? |
| 17:16.53 | Knaledge | how do I configure autoturnin? |
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| 17:23.23 | Slarre | I dont get any Health bars / mana Bars shown? any idea? |
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| 17:29.56 | Knaledge | ok using automaton.. |
| 17:30.04 | Knaledge | I don't see the whole thing for turning in rep rewards |
| 17:30.16 | dreamss | turn it on? |
| 17:30.24 | Knaledge | there is no option for it |
| 17:30.28 | Knaledge | only quests, which I certainly don't want |
| 17:30.29 | dreamss | slash auto |
| 17:30.41 | weab | http://wowace.com/wiki/Automaton |
| 17:30.52 | Knaledge | I see the options - there is no option for turning on/off rep turnins |
| 17:31.13 | Knaledge | just quests |
| 17:31.13 | Slarre | It dosnt show any health bar / mana bars etc, what is the problem? |
| 17:31.28 | weab | quests, rep, gossip text |
| 17:31.33 | weab | it's all lumped together |
| 17:31.55 | Knaledge | oh. ok. thats definitely not what I was hoping it would do.. :( I wouldn't want it to complete quests for me |
| 17:31.57 | Knaledge | just the rep ones |
| 17:32.01 | Knaledge | ah well. |
| 17:32.11 | weab | it only completes repeatable quests |
| 17:32.18 | weab | which are obviously pretty much only rep quests. |
| 17:32.28 | Knaledge | OH really? |
| 17:32.32 | Knaledge | hrm ok |
| 17:32.47 | Knaledge | that isn't stated anywhere so I just got a bit worried about leaving that on |
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| 17:34.25 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r43789 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: ThreatToKTM: typo fix. |
| 17:35.57 | weab | documentation is not one of my strong suits. |
| 17:36.11 | Knaledge | nah it's cool I just am glad to receive that clarification. |
| 17:36.20 | phirephly | Yay! I got it working! I can set my default language to "Taurahe" and still speak in "Orcish" in /say. I have more work to do to make it as configurable as I want it to be, but that stuff is all simple. |
| 17:36.24 | phirephly | Thanks all! |
| 17:37.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:37.33 | sag_ich_nicht | he could have really given us the code for that |
| 17:37.33 | sag_ich_nicht | -_- |
| 17:38.36 | Slarre | I can see any health bars / mana bars etc, whats the problem? :| |
| 17:39.17 | Shirik | that is an extremely vague question |
| 17:39.51 | Shirik | what addon(s) is/are you using; are you referring to the default unit frames? When can't you see them. What testing have you done already? |
| 17:40.00 | charon | antiarc: ping |
| 17:44.40 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czZZfVtoI0zfest <---- opinions/tips? |
| 17:46.02 | Kneebracehead | ya need to put in 2 more points |
| 17:46.09 | Kneebracehead | into imp shield wall :P |
| 17:47.01 | Pkekyo | imp shield wall? never seen any point in having that talent tbh...I'm only gonna tank heroics and kara after all >.< |
| 17:47.29 | Kneebracehead | no anger management, yes imp taunt :P |
| 17:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | http://xkcd.com/c287.html <--rofl |
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| 17:48.04 | charon | Pkekyo: i'm a druid, so i don't really have a say in this, but if you can use revenge often enough consider taking imp revenge, stuns are your best friend in heroics |
| 17:48.09 | charon | (as damage reduction) |
| 17:48.54 | Pkekyo | Kneebracehead: Anger Management is a MUST as your gear level increases |
| 17:49.28 | Kneebracehead | this is my hero/kara spec http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0cZZfEtshMkcest |
| 17:50.01 | Pkekyo | what's your gear like? I've got so much mitigation, I sometimes struggle to have sufficient rage to make any threat >.< |
| 17:50.57 | Kneebracehead | 13khp unbuffed, 14/17/23 d/p/b |
| 17:51.13 | Kneebracehead | 14k armor unbuffed |
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| 17:55.28 | Pkekyo | I have too much dodge and parry to get any rage :< |
| 17:55.34 | kbh | #char us Anvilmar Shinare |
| 17:56.04 | kbh | very common issue, no problem with being overgeared :P |
| 17:56.20 | kbh | unless you get 3 shotted when you do get hit :P |
| 17:57.19 | NightHawkTheSane | *whinge* apod's down. |
| 17:59.04 | kbh | heh, i remeber back in the day aq40 geared warriors couldent tank UBRS becasue they couldent get any rage |
| 18:00.31 | kbh | wonda if me mage is on the ptr yet .... |
| 18:02.12 | kbh | nope! |
| 18:06.25 | cncfanatics | ~Nargiddley |
| 18:06.42 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 18:06.48 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 5h 15m 36s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 18:08.25 | Pkekyo | "Interface\AddOns\IgnoreMore\IgnoreMore.lua:350: bad argument #1 to 'strsub' (string expected, got nil)" wth? |
| 18:08.31 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r43790 10HealCommLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:08.31 | CIA-22 | HealCommLib: initial commit |
| 18:08.31 | CIA-22 | - Keeps track of healing spells cast by everyone in a group. |
| 18:09.11 | kbh | is there a new ctprofiles out there where i can slap together gear? |
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| 18:10.07 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 18:10.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Hi Dr. Nick! |
| 18:10.43 | Pkekyo | getting spammed with this error: "Interface\AddOns\IgnoreMore\IgnoreMore.lua:350: bad argument #1 to 'strsub' (string expected, got nil)" what to do? |
| 18:11.03 | sag_ich_nicht | complain to the author? |
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| 18:17.54 | sylvanaar | thats kinda comical |
| 18:19.05 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r43791 10HealCommLib/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua: |
| 18:19.05 | CIA-22 | HealCommLib: |
| 18:19.05 | CIA-22 | - Test to see if revision will increment (no modifications) |
| 18:21.52 | sag_ich_nicht | durr |
| 18:21.58 | sag_ich_nicht | where is xbeeps |
| 18:22.07 | sag_ich_nicht | /me wishes to cause physical pain |
| 18:22.09 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 18:22.10 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit! |
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| 18:26.36 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r43792 10HealCommLib/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua: |
| 18:26.36 | CIA-22 | HealCommLib: |
| 18:26.36 | CIA-22 | - Added svn keyword Rev (no modifications) |
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| 18:29.58 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r43793 10HealCommLib/ (HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua HealCommLib.toc): |
| 18:29.58 | CIA-22 | HealCommLib: |
| 18:29.58 | CIA-22 | - Adjustments to svn keywords (no modifications) |
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| 18:33.22 | hypetech | anybody know of any gem that matches a yellow socket and has more than +4 spell damage? |
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| 18:33.53 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r43794 10NCHide/Core.lua: |
| 18:33.53 | CIA-22 | NCHide: |
| 18:33.53 | CIA-22 | - Menus can now be shown while the UI is hidden |
| 18:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | hypetech http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=cr=81:51;crs=3:1;crv=0:0 |
| 18:35.49 | sag_ich_nicht | all yellow matching gems that have +spelldmg :P |
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| 18:36.55 | hypetech | <32 |
| 18:36.56 | hypetech | <3 * |
| 18:37.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 18:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2filter :P |
| 18:38.49 | sag_ich_nicht | hello Antiarc |
| 18:38.57 | Antiarc | Morning |
| 18:39.00 | Slarre | I cant get the Health bar / mana bar shown? any idea?? |
| 18:39.23 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. anyone able to explain this inconsistant behaviour to me(make sure you read the whole thread): http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296681078 |
| 18:39.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ~ugt |
| 18:39.44 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 18:41.03 | Slarre | I cant get the Health bar / mana bar etc (anything) shown?? any idea what problem? |
| 18:41.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Slarre how about you first state where |
| 18:41.19 | sag_ich_nicht | with which addon |
| 18:41.19 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: Welcome to Blizzard Forums... >_> |
| 18:41.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and what you tried so far |
| 18:41.52 | Slarre | AG_unitsframes |
| 18:41.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Xuerian: the forums have nothing to do with inconsitent combat behaviour |
| 18:41.54 | Saroz | that healcommlib needs some fucking syntax love |
| 18:42.01 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: No... I get that message. |
| 18:42.15 | Slarre | when i enter wow i cant see my hp / mana or anyone else's mana/hp |
| 18:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | have you tried opening the configuration dialog for AGUF? |
| 18:42.47 | Slarre | ./aguf config? |
| 18:42.52 | Slarre | yes |
| 18:43.52 | sag_ich_nicht | so go and configure it correctly there :P |
| 18:44.37 | Slarre | i havent changed anything? should it not be bars etc, from start? |
| 18:44.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 18:44.47 | sag_ich_nicht | not really. |
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| 18:45.03 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r43795 10VisualHeal/HealComm-2.0/: |
| 18:45.03 | CIA-22 | VisualHeal: |
| 18:45.03 | CIA-22 | - Removed HealComm-2.0 (is now an external) |
| 18:45.09 | sag_ich_nicht | at least that's what i think :P |
| 18:45.16 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 18:45.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i bet if i update in ~15 minutes, it will break my visualheal. |
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| 18:46.02 | zoid | Wow, busy place. |
| 18:46.27 | nevcairiel | Saroz: i dont get any frames when i login during combat, thats unacceptable :P |
| 18:46.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol nevcairiel |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r43796 10VisualHeal/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-22 | VisualHeal: |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-22 | - Added support for Fel Armor. |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-22 | - Removed custom scanning tooltip (now uses Gratuity-2.0 for all tooltip scanning). |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-22 | - HealComm-2.0 modified to use the new message format. All players must upgrade |
| 18:46.45 | CIA-22 | if they are using VisualHeal release 3.1 or earlier (use '/vh inquiry' or '/vh |
| 18:46.47 | CIA-22 | guildinquiry' to discover the releases used by your group and guild members |
| 18:46.57 | Zoid | I'm trying to figure out this error I'm getting with DrDamage, I think its relatedt to Seal of Blood. Doesn't appear Gagorian is around. :/ |
| 18:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Zoid paste it |
| 18:47.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll probably know where it's coming from anyway |
| 18:48.07 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: that happend twice today already |
| 18:48.11 | nevcairiel | so damn annoying |
| 18:48.38 | Zoid | Interface\AddOns\DrDamage\Data\Paladin.lua:133: attempt to index local 'data' (a nil value) |
| 18:48.58 | Zoid | Now I"m wondering if the line is refering to judgement of command, but I don't have that skill (i'm holy, not retribution spec) |
| 18:50.09 | sag_ich_nicht | what did you use to catch that error? :P |
| 18:50.15 | sag_ich_nicht | stacktrace may or may not be useful :P |
| 18:50.36 | Zoid | I just typed out the box, how do I get a trace? |
| 18:50.42 | Zoid | I'm a C++ guy, haven't done a lot of lua. :) |
| 18:50.47 | sag_ich_nicht | use !BugGrabber + BugSack |
| 18:51.06 | Zoid | Ace mods? Ok |
| 18:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 18:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | !BugGrabber is the bugcatcher, the UI is in BugSack(so you can still catch bugs in BugSack :P) |
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| 18:52.20 | Zoid | Ya |
| 18:52.35 | Zoid | Ok, it just made a noise :P |
| 18:52.45 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 18:52.58 | sag_ich_nicht | you using fubar? if so it should be in the fubar, else go look for a new minimap icon :P |
| 18:53.37 | Zoid | is there a slash command for it? |
| 18:53.46 | sag_ich_nicht | probably, try /bugsack |
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| 18:54.13 | sag_ich_nicht | (I hate the BugSack error sound btw... added the ImprovedErrorFrame sound to SML and use that one now :D) |
| 18:54.35 | Slarre | any command to get Deucecommander able again? |
| 18:54.35 | Zoid | ya, is it saying fatality? |
| 18:54.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Zoid: yes |
| 18:54.57 | sag_ich_nicht | it's so stupid >< |
| 18:54.58 | Zoid | ha, bugsack logged its own error, can't find Tablet library |
| 18:55.02 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 18:55.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you installed the no-externals version? :P |
| 18:55.43 | sag_ich_nicht | because it sounds like you did |
| 18:55.49 | Zoid | Hmm shouldn't have |
| 18:55.54 | Zoid | maybe its missing a dep? |
| 18:56.14 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, it is, Tablet lib. which is why i concluded that you must have installed the no-externals version |
| 18:56.39 | sag_ich_nicht | you using the patcher or manually downloading? |
| 18:56.49 | Zoid | wowaceupdater, but I use embeds |
| 18:57.01 | Zoid | Installed tablet lib now |
| 18:57.22 | Fisker- | It's all or nothing |
| 18:58.10 | Zoid | [2007/07/14 11:57:44-2-x1]: DrDamage-1.2.0\Data\Paladin.lua:133: attempt to index local 'data' (a nil value) |
| 18:58.13 | Zoid | <in C code>: ? |
| 18:58.15 | Zoid | AceEvent-2.0-40601 (Aloft):329: in function <...face\AddOns\Aloft\Libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:310> |
| 18:58.21 | Zoid | hmm that doesn't seem helpful |
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| 18:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Zoid: sounds like your problem is coming from Aloft :P |
| 18:59.23 | Xuerian | Some AceEvent triggered bit of code in DrDamage tried to index a nil |
| 18:59.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm using aloft tho, drdamage, and my paladin is 70 |
| 18:59.54 | Zoid | oh, interesting |
| 18:59.59 | Zoid | I'm horde |
| 19:00.03 | Zoid | I think its related to Seal of Blood |
| 19:00.17 | sag_ich_nicht | heh, i'm alliance |
| 19:00.21 | Zoid | yup |
| 19:00.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Zoid |
| 19:00.23 | purl | ACTION runs at Zoid with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:00.41 | Zoid | If you look at the code, it's refering to "Judgement of Command" data, but I don't have Seal of Command trained |
| 19:01.00 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | where is gagorian? he's normally always here >-> |
| 19:01.33 | Zoid | That's what I was going to ask :) |
| 19:02.02 | sag_ich_nicht | at least now you have a proper debugging addon :P |
| 19:02.06 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 19:02.07 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 19:02.12 | sag_ich_nicht | not debugging... error catching |
| 19:02.17 | sag_ich_nicht | debugging needs a bit more than that >_> |
| 19:02.32 | charon | lua question... what is the return type of a function that says "return 1, 2"? |
| 19:02.35 | Zoid | Heh. LIke I said, I'm a C++ guy, this Lua stuff is new to me. |
| 19:02.52 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not really that hard |
| 19:02.58 | Zoid | ya, looks pretty straight forward |
| 19:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | lua is |
| 19:03.05 | Zoid | it's like any language, the hard part is learning all the libs |
| 19:03.09 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW api... not |
| 19:03.09 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 19:03.24 | Zoid | Which is why Ace was made |
| 19:03.45 | sag_ich_nicht | heh, no, that's not really the reason :P |
| 19:04.10 | Lyfe | charon: if i'm not mistaken, it's a tuple. |
| 19:04.41 | Xuerian | charon: More simply stated, multiple returns. |
| 19:04.58 | Fin | varone, vartwon = funtion() return 1, 2 end |
| 19:05.01 | Fin | -n |
| 19:05.05 | Xuerian | Yep. |
| 19:05.22 | Fin | http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/assignment |
| 19:07.17 | charon | from TFM: "There are eight basic types in Lua: nil, boolean, number, string, function, userdata, thread, and table." |
| 19:07.24 | charon | i'm just venting my frustration really |
| 19:07.51 | charon | having functions return something that doesn't even have a type itself doesn't fit my world view |
| 19:07.52 | charon | :( |
| 19:08.02 | Lyfe | i imagine either userdata or table then. |
| 19:08.24 | Fin | it's multiple values |
| 19:08.26 | Lyfe | well, don't ever play with ruby. :) |
| 19:08.27 | Fin | so it's not just one |
| 19:08.32 | charon | oh it's most definitely not a table, i've tripped over that already |
| 19:09.11 | Fin | it could be table, string = function() return { 'my' = 'arse' }, 'is peachy' end -- I think |
| 19:09.21 | sag_ich_nicht | lol'd |
| 19:10.27 | Fin | it's like, when you do a for k, v in pairs(table) do -- whatever - the "k, v" isn't considered a variable, and doesn't have a type |
| 19:10.36 | sag_ich_nicht | HAH |
| 19:10.36 | Xuerian | charon: It does. It just returns multiple of those items |
| 19:10.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i knew it! |
| 19:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | xbeeps broke the externals intergration with visualheal |
| 19:11.29 | charon | Xuerian: the way i see it it doesn't. you cannot inspect, access, or whatever, the function's return _value_. you can only look at its return value_s_ if you know how many there are or are willing to drop the rest |
| 19:11.50 | Fin | also you can use ... |
| 19:11.53 | Xuerian | charon: returns = {TupleReturningfuncion()} |
| 19:12.06 | Xuerian | (or, more properly, select(index, tuple)) |
| 19:12.17 | Fin | select makes baby jesus cry |
| 19:12.34 | Fin | but perhaps he deserves it |
| 19:12.44 | Antiarc | what's wrong with select? |
| 19:12.48 | charon | Xuerian: ah. that clears up a few things |
| 19:13.14 | Fin | it just makes baby jesus cry, ask his mum err dad I dunno |
| 19:13.18 | Fin | whingy little bastard |
| 19:13.24 | Xuerian | charon: Drop the low-level coder act; Tuples aren't about problems, they're about freedom. You don't have to return a table if you want to do multiple things in a function, just return multiple things. Each is it's own proper type, and you can set multiple variables in one line with it |
| 19:13.47 | Fin | "Tuples aren't about problems, they're about freedom." I'm saving that |
| 19:14.38 | Fin | return values have rights too! |
| 19:14.49 | Fin | hah, geek humour! proper like |
| 19:15.26 | charon | Xuerian: i'm not a low level coder, my brain has been damaged by python in which everything is a proper object, _including_ the thing that you mysteriously call "multiple returns". but yeah, having {foo()} allows me to look at that from an abstract POV, it's just that i haven't found it in the parts of the tutorial i read. so, sorry. |
| 19:16.00 | Xuerian | charon: Also, don't take my insults seriously. I liberally employ "Rude love" |
| 19:16.01 | Fin | charon: can you not think of it as multiple objects? what are foreach loops like in python? |
| 19:16.19 | Fin | hey Xuerian, fuck you! |
| 19:16.57 | Xuerian | ~emulate ckknight |
| 19:16.58 | purl | <@ckknight> f*ck the regular users? |
| 19:17.05 | Xuerian | I'm not a regular user :'( |
| 19:17.22 | Fin | that's bad emulation |
| 19:17.30 | Fin | I don't believe ckknight would've used an asterisk in that |
| 19:17.40 | Xuerian | I doubt he really did |
| 19:18.15 | Xuerian | charon: Anyhoo, tuples can make things a lot easier if you don't consider everything strict. The amount of freedom in lua is amazing, and it's something to take advantage of (And yet, be wary of) |
| 19:18.33 | Fin | I guess someone added it to protect ck's reputation as a god fearing christian |
| 19:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | lua's freedom will beat you up and take your lunch money. |
| 19:18.50 | charon | Fin: they iterate over arbitrary sequences |
| 19:18.59 | Fin | what's an arbitrary sequence? |
| 19:19.00 | stavmar | Is it possible that with Parrot you see incoming damage only and not outgoing even though it is enabled? |
| 19:19.14 | Fin | sounds like a tuple to me |
| 19:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: i gather its more likely purl added it as some sort of profanity filter. *shrug* |
| 19:19.27 | charon | Fin: anything that pretends it's a sequence, including: lists, tuples, generators, and whatnot |
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| 19:19.31 | Fin | ~fuck |
| 19:19.32 | purl | Now where did I put the lube...? Eh, no matter, dry it is tonight! |
| 19:19.43 | Fin | ~pussy |
| 19:19.44 | purl | Read: fin |
| 19:19.45 | charon | Fin: also, any object that you make look like a sequence by implementing a few methods |
| 19:19.52 | Fin | woo! she's dirty tonight |
| 19:20.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: none of those responses have anything vaguely offensive in them though :P |
| 19:20.28 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: why am I getting horny then |
| 19:20.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: because you're a pussy? *shrug* |
| 19:21.00 | Xuerian | 'Cause purl has a strapon? |
| 19:21.07 | NightHawkTheSane | probably |
| 19:21.26 | Xuerian | And ya know, as she said.... 'It's dry tonight!'. |
| 19:21.27 | Xuerian | XD |
| 19:21.35 | NightHawkTheSane | poor fin. |
| 19:21.36 | Fin | hey guys, stop teasing and gimme your phone numbers already |
| 19:21.44 | Fin | let's get it on! via skype! woohoo! |
| 19:21.58 | Fin | rawr |
| 19:22.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, ill get right on that. |
| 19:22.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 19:22.05 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 19:22.14 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 19:22.15 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 19:22.19 | Xuerian | purl, flee! |
| 19:22.20 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 19:22.25 | Fin | purl, come back |
| 19:22.31 | Fin | I am spurned! |
| 19:22.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sure you're used t o that. :P |
| 19:22.58 | Fin | spurned by a default to ignore unknown factoids |
| 19:23.29 | Fin | spurned and scorned! |
| 19:23.36 | Fin | scurned! |
| 19:23.39 | Fin | sporned |
| 19:23.53 | NightHawkTheSane | sporned, eh? |
| 19:24.00 | Fin | anyone else fancy a quick sporning? |
| 19:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadow Porned? |
| 19:24.01 | Fin | I'm available |
| 19:25.10 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone able to explain this inconsistant behaviour to me(make sure you read the whole thread): http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296681078&sid=1 |
| 19:26.21 | Fin | repeating yourself is OK |
| 19:26.23 | Fin | repeating yourself is OK |
| 19:27.12 | Tinyboom | ~Tinyboom |
| 19:27.20 | Tinyboom | ¨flee |
| 19:27.28 | Fin | see Tinyboom |
| 19:27.31 | Fin | see Tinyboom flee |
| 19:28.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Fin |
| 19:28.24 | purl | crushes Fin with a full height scsi disk |
| 19:28.59 | Tinyboom | ~lart purl |
| 19:28.59 | purl | strangles tinyboom with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 19:29.03 | Tinyboom | hehe |
| 19:38.58 | Fisker- | OH HI FIN |
| 19:39.01 | Fisker- | I JUST KILLED YOU |
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| 19:45.13 | Fin | Fisker-: you don't mean in-game, do you? |
| 19:46.04 | fLuKe | heya guys i used WAU last night (i use it nightly) and when i loaded back into game every ace addon didnt work and had like 5-10 errors :(, I deleted all my addons and my WTF folder and re-dl'd them... still had the problem, so i deleted WoW and reinstalled and re-dl'd the addons and loaded them 1 at a time... every ace addon game me the same set of errors |
| 19:46.17 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 19:46.28 | fLuKe | ./walloftext |
| 19:46.35 | Xuerian | fLuKe: It would've been slightly more wise to come here and ask before re-installing |
| 19:46.45 | fLuKe | ya lol |
| 19:46.52 | fLuKe | but still the problem persists |
| 19:46.56 | Fin | fLuKe: don't pay any attention to Xeurian's gruff manner, he's bitter and twisted |
| 19:46.59 | Xuerian | fLuKe: paste the errors on ace.pastey.net |
| 19:47.10 | NightHawkTheSane | he's also right. :P |
| 19:47.15 | Fin | fLuKe: but listen to his advice, he's good at stuff like that |
| 19:47.56 | Xuerian | fLuKe: Make sure you have BugSack and !BugGrabber. |
| 19:48.41 | Fisker- | no Fin >* |
| 19:48.43 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:49.09 | sylvanaar | i think the default externals setting is inverted |
| 19:49.29 | sylvanaar | rather, it is |
| 19:49.51 | sylvanaar | just pastey your update log |
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| 19:51.27 | fLuKe | ok i posted them on the site |
| 19:51.42 | Xuerian | fLuKe: Link? |
| 19:51.47 | fLuKe | what update log? from WAU? |
| 19:51.49 | sylvanaar | grief |
| 19:52.00 | fLuKe | http://ace.pastey.net/70823-3bt7 |
| 19:52.05 | sylvanaar | do your versions look like +40000 or -40000 |
| 19:52.07 | fLuKe | i just posted 2 of the errors |
| 19:52.18 | NightHawkTheSane | "Have you not read the bible, O'Neill?" "Oh,yeah, yeah. Not all of it. Actually I'm listening to it on tape. Don't tell me how it ends." |
| 19:52.41 | fLuKe | -400000 |
| 19:53.02 | fLuKe | all of them "-" |
| 19:53.16 | sylvanaar | do you run with externals usually? |
| 19:53.26 | fLuKe | idk? |
| 19:53.31 | sylvanaar | um k |
| 19:53.32 | Xerophyte | Fluke: Do you have StandAloneLibraries installed? |
| 19:53.36 | fLuKe | i just use the addons :P |
| 19:53.44 | fLuKe | no |
| 19:53.46 | sylvanaar | go to the options, and enable automatic dependency |
| 19:54.21 | Xerophyte | !!!StandAloneLibraries, even. Either do what Sylvanaar said or install that addon - basically what happened was that WAU installed the addons without the libraries they need to function |
| 19:54.35 | Xuerian | Don't need SAL |
| 19:54.52 | Xuerian | It's finally utterly pointless. |
| 19:54.54 | Xerophyte | So you either install the libraries as standalone or change the settings to have them included with the addons |
| 19:55.18 | sylvanaar | i need to update the sf.net copy i guess or start publicizing the link http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
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| 19:56.28 | fLuKe | ok thanks guys ill test it out :) |
| 19:57.04 | sylvanaar | you can do that - or select everything an choose Update WITH Externals, and they will all have +40000 |
| 19:57.13 | sylvanaar | your choice |
| 19:57.17 | MikkWoW | that whole thing needs a revamp |
| 19:57.21 | MikkWoW | too many settings to fiddle with |
| 19:57.25 | sylvanaar | it just had one |
| 19:58.00 | MikkWoW | "automatic dependency" and "WITHOUT externals" == "que?" for anyone that hasn't had it explained to him |
| 19:58.04 | sylvanaar | its too simple for most ppl to understand |
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| 20:00.15 | Xerophyte | Xuerian: How come SAL is pointless nowadays? I recall people having library version conflicts with threatlib as late as last week |
| 20:00.33 | Xuerian | Xerophyte: Set default to disembedded and make wau fetch dependencies automatically |
| 20:00.35 | MikkWoW | because the newest WAUs will download libraries as needed |
| 20:00.44 | sylvanaar | um, you can use it or autodeps or both |
| 20:00.46 | Xuerian | It will automatically disembed and download what libs are named as deps in addons |
| 20:01.03 | Xerophyte | Ah. That explains that, certainly |
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| 20:01.13 | pb_ee1 | ~seen ckknight |
| 20:01.14 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@cpe-75-80-221-35.hawaii.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 31m 22s ago, saying: 'I have work today'. |
| 20:02.01 | sylvanaar | the problem is the default is without externals |
| 20:02.19 | MikkWoW | and not download deps? |
| 20:02.23 | sylvanaar | no |
| 20:02.29 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: ping |
| 20:02.30 | sylvanaar | its autodep/noext |
| 20:02.40 | MikkWoW | that should be good then? |
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| 20:03.12 | pb_ee1 | Does anyone know how to limit the number of bars that can be scrolled with the mouse on Bartender? |
| 20:03.31 | pb_ee1 | Here is my problem: on bar 1, i've enabled changing the bars with my mouse wheel |
| 20:03.37 | sylvanaar | yes, it should be, but some people have had this issue idk |
| 20:03.51 | fLuKe | ok so it works now, but i have all these lib: randomthinghere in my addons and i dont use like any of those? |
| 20:03.54 | pb_ee1 | And i'd like to change only between bar 1 and bar 2 |
| 20:04.13 | pb_ee1 | But Bartender is changing from bar 1 to bar n |
| 20:04.37 | pb_ee1 | Any idea on how to change this? |
| 20:05.14 | MikkWoW | fLuKe: they're "libraries", utility thingies that the addons use |
| 20:05.27 | sylvanaar | what i dont get is how they all got to be -40000's |
| 20:06.32 | fLuKe | they are still - even after enabling the option u said |
| 20:07.23 | fLuKe | shopuld i have that unchecked now? |
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| 20:08.09 | charon | pb_ee1: so you mapped the "Previous"/"Next Action Bar" bindings to do this? |
| 20:08.34 | sylvanaar | the option doesnt really do much - you just select all and update with externals (use the menu |
| 20:09.47 | pb_ee1 | charon: nope |
| 20:09.54 | sylvanaar | if you want to remove the libraries you can install !!!StandaloneLibraries then uninstall it and they will get removed |
| 20:10.07 | pb_ee1 | charon: it was enabled with blizzard's defaults |
| 20:10.30 | pb_ee1 | and after installing bartender, it changed from 1->2->1 to 1->2->3->....->1 |
| 20:10.45 | pb_ee1 | I'm going to check the "Previous"/"Next Action Bar" |
| 20:10.46 | fLuKe | woot they are all + again |
| 20:12.14 | sylvanaar | when were they all ?40000 or how did they get that way |
| 20:12.15 | pb_ee1 | charon: actually I cannot see this option on Bartender3 |
| 20:12.32 | nevcairiel | pb_ee1: pong? |
| 20:12.41 | charon | pb_ee1: i have no clue. i just figured i might spend my BG queue time reading the source to figure this out, but so far i haven't |
| 20:12.52 | charon | ah, the wizard comes to the rescue |
| 20:13.06 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: just scroll up a bit, i've explained my problem at 22:03:14 (paris time) |
| 20:13.20 | nevcairiel | no you cannot limit it |
| 20:13.26 | pb_ee1 | argh |
| 20:13.44 | pb_ee1 | actually it's not for me, but a friend. And he's swapping these two bars with the mouse |
| 20:13.47 | nevcairiel | i never had the thought that someone might want to :P |
| 20:14.05 | pb_ee1 | bar1 = ranged, bar2 = melee (he's a hunter yayay ;p) |
| 20:14.32 | fLuKe | sylvanaar: no clue |
| 20:14.56 | fLuKe | i updated my WAU then updated all my mods and bam |
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| 20:15.13 | sylvanaar | fLuKe what version did you update from |
| 20:15.35 | fLuKe | the one that came out 2 days ago |
| 20:15.49 | fLuKe | from the most recent to the miost recent asafter that |
| 20:15.49 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: do you think it is something easy to add to bartender3? or maybe you do not like the idea hehe :p |
| 20:17.59 | sylvanaar | i wonder if i should just change the setting back, i did it to help reduce bandwidth - it only applies under rare cases (like the first time you run wau) |
| 20:18.49 | MikkWoW | embedded vs unembedded doesn't really seem to be such a huge difference in the stats |
| 20:19.00 | sylvanaar | really? |
| 20:19.03 | MikkWoW | the real bandwidth killers are stuff like cartographer, pulling every library in existance |
| 20:19.09 | MikkWoW | and thus always being flagged as updated |
| 20:19.28 | MikkWoW | ... erm when embedded |
| 20:19.37 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 20:19.39 | MikkWoW | yeah perhaps it does affect it more than what i thought |
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| 20:20.09 | MikkWoW | to be quite frank i don't even remember how i was thinking when i was looking at the logs |
| 20:20.14 | MikkWoW | i'm too tired at m>.< |
| 20:20.18 | Pkekyo | "Interface\FrameXML\Chatframe.lua:2502: bad argument #1 to 'strsub' (string expected, got nil)" |
| 20:20.18 | Pkekyo | I'm getting bombared by " 'strsub' (string expected, got nil)" errors nowadays...what to do? |
| 20:20.32 | MikkWoW | we need the stack trace |
| 20:20.55 | MikkWoW | there's some addon hooking a framexml function and not passing the arguments it should |
| 20:21.12 | sylvanaar | prolly arg11 arg12 |
| 20:21.28 | MikkWoW | gogogo "..." |
| 20:22.11 | Pkekyo | MikkWoW: I got the same 'strsub' (string expected, got nil) error crap from the addon IgnoreMore first...disabled that addon, now I'm stuck with this |
| 20:22.34 | MikkWoW | yep, wasn't ignoremore's fault |
| 20:22.49 | Pkekyo | how can I fix this then? |
| 20:22.50 | MikkWoW | now it's being reported in framexml instead |
| 20:22.54 | MikkWoW | give us a stack trace |
| 20:23.04 | MikkWoW | install buggrabber and bugsack |
| 20:23.13 | MikkWoW | it'll tell you the path of code execution leading up to the error |
| 20:23.26 | MikkWoW | you'll see the name of the misbehaving addon in the trace |
| 20:23.33 | MikkWoW | and reenable ignoremore :> |
| 20:25.08 | sylvanaar | i dont even have the current framexml |
| 20:27.08 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 20:28.46 | Pkekyo | ffs...now I'm unable to trigger the error >.< |
| 20:29.39 | sylvanaar | do you have buggrabber installer |
| 20:30.24 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 20:30.52 | sylvanaar | i cant delete my framexmls ohlol |
| 20:37.15 | sylvanaar | lol didnt neeed ... i just saw what was not being passed |
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| 20:40.15 | sylvanaar | what i wanna know is why do ignored and filtered get addmessaged |
| 20:41.08 | Mikk | haha |
| 20:41.25 | Mikk | more bloat ftw!!!11 |
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| 20:44.32 | Fisker- | omg |
| 20:44.37 | Fisker- | blizzard are nubs!1 |
| 20:44.51 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174687448&pageNo=1&sid=1#9 |
| 20:45.36 | BankZ | if I am running omen, KTM cant see right? |
| 20:45.59 | Arrowmaster | omen broadcasts to ktm |
| 20:46.33 | [dRaCo] | 14 gig ram disk? |
| 20:46.35 | [dRaCo] | crazy shit. |
| 20:46.52 | BankZ | When did it start broadcasting to KTM? |
| 20:47.16 | Fisker- | you'd need 4GB a slot |
| 20:47.30 | Fisker- | shouldn't be that hard with that in mind |
| 20:47.30 | BankZ | I wish someone would fix Violation_EffectiveHealing |
| 20:47.30 | charon | why ramdisk? the kernel should make the most of its ram, including using a few gigs of that as disk cache |
| 20:47.39 | Fisker- | does intel macs run with DDR? |
| 20:47.48 | [dRaCo] | BankZ: what's wrong with violation's effective healing module? |
| 20:48.19 | Fisker- | heh |
| 20:48.24 | Fisker- | you can get 16GB ECC Buffered DDR2 here |
| 20:48.27 | Fisker- | for like 2000$ |
| 20:48.49 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 20:48.58 | Fisker- | make that 3700$ |
| 20:49.17 | Higdur | my macbook pro has 2gb 667 mhz ddr2 sdram |
| 20:49.24 | Higdur | (intel) |
| 20:50.47 | Fisker- | http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/PartsInfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=&ktcpartno=F51272F51&SearchType=KingPNFind&submit=Search |
| 20:50.49 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 20:50.51 | BankZ | [dRaCo]: it tracks out of combat healing, rather than in comabt healing |
| 20:50.53 | Fisker- | 1079$ each |
| 20:51.07 | Fisker- | someone should suggest tigerclaw that |
| 20:51.13 | BankZ | basicly its backwards |
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| 20:51.45 | Fisker- | someone do it :( |
| 20:52.05 | [dRaCo] | you're the forum guy here ;þ |
| 20:52.13 | Fisker- | only EU troll |
| 20:52.17 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: ping again ;p |
| 20:52.22 | Fisker- | don't have US trolling access |
| 20:52.50 | Fisker- | i wonder how cool it would've been if EU and US could post on the same boards during the TBC beta |
| 20:52.54 | nevcairiel | pb_ee1: it could possible be done, i dont have anything against it, but i am just lazy on weekends, and pong :P |
| 20:53.25 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: no worries, I just had another question: is it normal that hotkeys do not display on bar > 1? |
| 20:53.36 | nevcairiel | no thats not normal |
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| 20:53.45 | Thrae | Fisker-: The motherboard, bus, processor, memory types, and overall memory support. Additionally, Mac OS 9 only had support for up to a 256MB RAM Disk. |
| 20:54.01 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: humm i'm enabling "hotkeys" and nothing appears :( |
| 20:54.12 | Fisker- | Thrae lol fail |
| 20:54.20 | Fisker- | but it should support ???? now right? |
| 20:54.35 | nevcairiel | pb_ee1: you sure you bound them right? |
| 20:54.44 | nevcairiel | using the bartender3 bindings, not the multibar bindings |
| 20:55.04 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: aha, no, they are binded with the default bindings |
| 20:55.09 | pb_ee1 | humm |
| 20:55.18 | pb_ee1 | well i do this because sometimes i change computer that do not have bartender :P |
| 20:55.41 | pb_ee1 | that -> and it does not have |
| 20:57.02 | pb_ee1 | thanks for the info ;) |
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| 20:57.10 | Vaughn | hi |
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| 20:57.45 | Thrae | Fisker-: The built-in utility still allows a 256MB maximum, but there are utilities which make any size ram disk. And I was talking about how much memory you could have in the computer itself, not the size of ram disks. |
| 20:58.11 | phirephly | Hey guys. Got a developer question <again>. Someone talk to me about arrays in LUA please. |
| 20:58.22 | Fisker- | well it fails if it doesn't support 4 slots memory amirite? |
| 20:58.26 | [dRaCo] | there is no LUA. |
| 20:58.31 | [dRaCo] | just lua :þ |
| 20:58.31 | Fisker- | and still fails if max memdisk is only 256MB :( |
| 20:59.21 | Thrae | Fisker-: Ah, I thought you were saying --I-- failed ;) |
| 20:59.50 | Fisker- | Pretty disappointed that something pretty much based on linux or unix or whatever doesn't support ramdisks of that size O_o |
| 21:00.03 | Fisker- | well you do :( |
| 21:00.03 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 21:00.19 | phirephly | K. I'll check back later. |
| 21:00.26 | Thrae | phirephly: Arrays in Lua are basically the same as arrays in other languages, except Lua uses dynamically-sized arr-- |
| 21:00.45 | Vaughn | hi, i was going to sign up to the game..but the site appears to be down..can anyone confirm for me? |
| 21:00.45 | Vaughn | www.wow-europe.com |
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| 21:01.16 | Shirik | works for me |
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| 21:01.29 | Hjalte | Works for me too. |
| 21:01.36 | Fisker- | works here |
| 21:01.44 | Shirik | wow chanserv, you're slow today |
| 21:01.52 | Fisker- | tried https://signup.wow-europe.com/ ? |
| 21:02.14 | Thrae | Fisker-: Well like I said, it's the built-in utility which has the limitation. There are freeware programs available which can do bigger ramdisks, and you could also do it manually if you know the OS X (aka *nix) command-line commands. |
| 21:02.30 | Fisker- | ah ok |
| 21:02.37 | Fisker- | silly stuff then |
| 21:02.54 | Vaughn | hmm. really doesnt work |
| 21:03.07 | Vaughn | weird because everything else does |
| 21:03.41 | Vaughn | ^god trying to tell me not to do it |
| 21:03.47 | Vaughn | loo |
| 21:03.47 | Vaughn | lol* |
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| 21:19.06 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r43797 10HealCommLib/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua: HealCommLib - add koKR tooltip pattern |
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| 21:22.30 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/failed.JPG <-n00b :( |
| 21:22.35 | Fisker- | +s |
| 21:22.41 | Fisker- | oh hi Tuller |
| 21:22.47 | Fisker- | people appreciated your work :O |
| 21:22.53 | Tuller | hello |
| 21:23.03 | Tuller | and hurray :) |
| 21:28.23 | sylvanaar | Translate this into end-user, "Do you use embedded libraries?" |
| 21:28.53 | sylvanaar | or should the answers be 1) No and 2) I dont know |
| 21:29.49 | Fisker- | "You want lesser memory usage?" |
| 21:29.54 | Fisker- | :P |
| 21:30.21 | sylvanaar | I should just choose randomly |
| 21:30.26 | Fisker- | yes/no/i don't know seems reasonably |
| 21:30.31 | sylvanaar | yeah? |
| 21:30.37 | mjc | heh |
| 21:30.50 | Fisker- | Or Yes/No/I don't know |
| 21:31.00 | Jaxon | The addons by default are shipped with libraries embedded. |
| 21:31.00 | sylvanaar | Yes, No, Lolwut?! |
| 21:31.00 | Jaxon | Right |
| 21:31.00 | Jaxon | files.wowace.com does |
| 21:31.01 | Fisker- | where i don't know pops up the differences between the 2 systems |
| 21:31.11 | Jaxon | So, the user has to make a conscious choice to disembed the libraries. |
| 21:31.13 | sylvanaar | no, "i dont know" gets you embeeded |
| 21:31.46 | Fisker- | one of those ? buttons in the topright then :P |
| 21:31.46 | sylvanaar | the setting rarely applies anyhow |
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| 21:32.52 | phirephly | Assuming there is one, can I get someone to give me 25 words or less on how to use a CASE statement in lua? Please? |
| 21:33.15 | Fisker- | so what's blizzard's third new game on the way? |
| 21:33.15 | sylvanaar | case o.O been a while |
| 21:33.33 | phirephly | Nothing useful kicked back on a wowwiki search on "case statement" |
| 21:33.38 | sylvanaar | cascading ifs |
| 21:33.44 | Fisker- | can only do c-case statements |
| 21:33.55 | phirephly | Yeah, I can do that. Cascading if's but it's ugly. I'd rather use a case if there is one. |
| 21:34.01 | Fisker- | Switch(something) |
| 21:34.07 | Fisker- | case:(something) |
| 21:34.07 | Fisker- | dostuff |
| 21:34.13 | phirephly | Switch. That's it. Okay. I'll be back. |
| 21:34.19 | sylvanaar | theres switch? |
| 21:34.24 | Fisker- | in c there is |
| 21:34.55 | Xuerian | There isn't one in lua >_> |
| 21:34.59 | sylvanaar | thought you meant lua for somereason |
| 21:35.14 | Xuerian | [17:33] phirephly: Assuming there is one, can I get someone to give me 25 words or less on how to use a CASE statement in lua? Please? |
| 21:35.32 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:35.36 | Fisker- | no case/switch in lua |
| 21:35.38 | sylvanaar | if, elseif else |
| 21:35.59 | Fisker- | Xuerian i explicitly said it wasn't lua :) |
| 21:36.02 | phirephly | Oh. Okay. But there is an elseif? I can use that. It works much the same. I just don't want to end up with end;end;end;end;end;end;end That's confusing. |
| 21:36.08 | sylvanaar | or make the jump table yourself |
| 21:36.14 | Xuerian | Fisker-: But he was explicitly asking for lua. |
| 21:36.18 | Fisker- | http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:ynhg9Ty5jDIJ:lua-users.org/wiki/SwitchStatement+lua+switch+case&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk |
| 21:36.23 | Fisker- | look at this Xuerian |
| 21:36.27 | Fisker- | err |
| 21:36.27 | Fisker- | phirephly |
| 21:36.50 | Thrae | Fisker-: Try !t <url> <stuff after it> |
| 21:36.54 | trh | phirephly: there is a elseif |
| 21:36.54 | phirephly | Yup. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks Fisk, and all. |
| 21:37.02 | Thrae | !t http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:ynhg9Ty5jDIJ:lua-users.org/wiki/SwitchStatement+lua+switch+case&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk |
| 21:37.07 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/yq7yym |
| 21:37.18 | Fisker- | !t www.cp.com |
| 21:37.27 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: http://tinyurl.com/3d8nrg |
| 21:37.28 | Fisker- | CP CP! |
| 21:37.32 | Fisker- | reminds me of the biggest lawl ever |
| 21:37.39 | Fisker- | Some discovery documentary |
| 21:37.50 | Fisker- | With some lift designed to hoist bride-sections |
| 21:38.15 | Fisker- | the narrator called it a "numeric hoist" or something like that |
| 21:38.19 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 21:38.24 | Fisker- | Pneumatic? :P |
| 21:38.37 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's pneumatic. |
| 21:38.45 | Fisker- | your mom's numeric |
| 21:38.59 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:39.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, she's kind of a float. |
| 21:39.04 | Fisker- | why do we hurt eachother so NightHawkAtWork? |
| 21:39.19 | Chompers | its out of love Fisker- |
| 21:39.20 | NightHawkTheSane | because it makes me happy. |
| 21:39.20 | Fisker- | oh yeah same here |
| 21:39.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Fisker- |
| 21:39.30 | purl | executes killall -TERM Fisker- |
| 21:39.42 | Fisker- | ~whalenuke NightHawkAtWork |
| 21:39.51 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around NightHawkAtWork with his mind powers |
| 21:39.51 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 21:39.51 | Fisker- | wrong NightHawkAtWork |
| 21:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 21:40.08 | Chompers | ahahah |
| 21:40.12 | Chompers | that's great |
| 21:41.09 | Fisker- | http://roflsaurus.com/users/public/w42728problems49.jpg |
| 21:41.28 | [dRaCo] | his radiation cloak? wasnt purl supposed to be "female"? |
| 21:41.43 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: Purl is a metasexual. |
| 21:41.49 | trh | he pretends to be a girl |
| 21:42.00 | trh | but is in reality a dude |
| 21:42.00 | Fisker- | NO U Xuerian |
| 21:42.00 | trh | like all girls on irc ;) |
| 21:42.16 | [dRaCo] | iic |
| 21:42.21 | [dRaCo] | ... -i |
| 21:42.26 | Chompers | really a fat old dude |
| 21:42.26 | Chompers | or the fbi |
| 21:42.38 | Chompers | or both |
| 21:43.00 | [dRaCo] | a fat old fbi dude? |
| 21:43.09 | NightHawkTheSane | arnt all fbi dudes fat and old |
| 21:43.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ? |
| 21:43.20 | Xuerian | No no |
| 21:43.20 | Xuerian | see |
| 21:43.20 | Xuerian | fbi dudes |
| 21:43.29 | Xuerian | ARE actually girls |
| 21:43.30 | [dRaCo] | dunno, never met one |
| 21:43.30 | Chompers | Scully isnt a fat old dude |
| 21:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | in real life she is. |
| 21:44.20 | Chompers | chix with dix |
| 21:44.59 | Fisker- | good night cruel world |
| 21:45.06 | Chompers | byeeee |
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| 21:50.47 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r43798 10HealCommLib/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua: HealCommLib - sorry, useless code is deleted |
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| 21:59.36 | Tinyboom | ~party |
| 21:59.37 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
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| 22:00.01 | Tinyboom | ~lart Maria |
| 22:00.01 | purl | holds Maria to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 22:00.02 | Tinyboom | ^^ |
| 22:00.05 | Thrae | ~emulate purl |
| 22:00.06 | purl | Mwhaha, fear my spam! |
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| 22:07.40 | yacoob | hm |
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| 22:07.57 | yacoob | purl should get '/me puts on his wizard hat and cloak...' |
| 22:12.19 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r43799 10/trunk/ (LootAlert/ kEnergy/): Kill a few old things that are now maintained elsewhere. |
| 22:13.53 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r43800 10/tags/kEnergy/ (0.1/ 0.2/ 0.4/ 0.6/ 0.61/ 0.7/ 0.8/ 0.81/ 0.9/): Kill a few remnants. |
| 22:14.25 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r43801 10/branches/kEnergy/: kEnergy: /more/ remnants. |
| 22:16.16 | Xuerian | *Sigh*. i love FB6 |
| 22:17.19 | [dRaCo] | kergoth: what happened to kEnergy? |
| 22:17.58 | kergoth | just using my own repositories. might add it back just for releases for wau |
| 22:18.12 | Xuerian | Drama or ease of use? 0_o |
| 22:18.27 | kergoth | no drama, i'm just playing around with using git instead of svn |
| 22:18.33 | Xuerian | Ahh |
| 22:18.35 | kergoth | on another note, if anyone here uses cygwin, http://web.gccaz.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/ kicks ass |
| 22:18.42 | sbu | git? |
| 22:18.52 | kergoth | ~git |
| 22:19.01 | kergoth | bah |
| 22:19.05 | kergoth | purl, you suck |
| 22:19.06 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 22:19.57 | kergoth | purl, git is a distributed version control system focused on speed, efficiency and real-world usability on large projects. It is used mainly for various open source projects, most notably the Linux kernel. See http://git.or.cz/ for details. |
| 22:19.57 | purl | ACTION declares is a distributed version control system focused on speed, efficiency and real-world usability on large projects. It is used mainly for various open source projects, most notably the Linux kernel. See http://git.or.cz/ for details. a total smeghead |
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| 22:20.07 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:20.09 | kergoth | oookay |
| 22:20.16 | kergoth | purl, forget CMD: git (.*?) |
| 22:20.40 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:20.43 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: is that similar to just running an ssh server in cgywin and connecting to it with putty? but without the ssh server? |
| 22:20.52 | kergoth | Arrowmaster, it seems so, yep |
| 22:20.54 | charon | i see postman hasn't been updated in ages... has it been abandoned? |
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| 22:21.05 | Arrowmaster | cool |
| 22:21.18 | kergoth | purl, no, CMD: git (.*?) is |
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| 22:23.27 | phirephly | Wow. This Ace2 thing ROCKS. I got my mod changes in and I'll have them up on curse in an hour or so. |
| 22:24.19 | phirephly | Now I have a mod that lets you set and "sticky" language choices by chat type (SAY, YELL, PARTY, GUILD, OFFICER, RAID, RAID_WARNING and BATTLEGROUND). All toggles independently keybindable. |
| 22:24.27 | QuantumDelta | *Pokes Antiarc with a pokie stick* |
| 22:24.50 | sag_ich_nicht | QuantumDelta you are doing it wrong |
| 22:24.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work Antiarc show your face |
| 22:24.58 | QuantumDelta | I am? :< |
| 22:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | or i'll stab you to death with my annoyance |
| 22:25.08 | QuantumDelta | haha |
| 22:25.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Antiarc |
| 22:25.17 | purl | ACTION runs at Antiarc with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 22:25.25 | QuantumDelta | meanies :< |
| 22:28.08 | Xuerian | nice, phirephly |
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| 22:32.38 | BankZ | do you guys still like bartender3 the best? |
| 22:32.51 | phirephly | I don't. I like TrinityBars best, but I'm a special case. |
| 22:33.31 | Hjalte | BankZ, I still use Bartender3 and it fits my needs at least :) |
| 22:33.55 | BankZ | just wish it had a few more features |
| 22:34.07 | BankZ | like to be able to set the fade out alpha |
| 22:34.25 | BankZ | and fade out based on stance |
| 22:35.34 | snirks | default blizzard bars without gryphons here |
| 22:38.03 | BankZ | eeewwww |
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| 22:39.47 | Pkekyo | tbh, everything about the default blizzard UI is fugly :> |
| 22:41.03 | Pkekyo | Mikk still here? |
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| 22:44.06 | Dustwhisper | so does the following kind of mod exist if so which: Some nice mod that will synch and show a complete timeline on tanks (or preferably all raidmembers) in a nice graphical way, heals taken, heals cast, spells cast, dmg taken etc |
| 22:44.12 | Dustwhisper | to see how a tank dies or how a person dies |
| 22:44.16 | Dustwhisper | even when they take a potion etc |
| 22:44.35 | durcyn | expiration does it, but not graphically |
| 22:44.50 | Xerophyte | Recount is as close as you get, really |
| 22:45.53 | kebinusan | there was an older one that required healers to have a mod to sync the data called battlehistory or something |
| 22:46.04 | kebinusan | but recount is probably about as close as you will get in game atm |
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| 22:56.32 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43802 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (35 files in 11 dirs): |
| 22:56.32 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 22:56.32 | CIA-22 | - Tweaks to module system, mostly. |
| 23:02.28 | Fwip | Hey, dumb question: Is there any way to get info about a party member's focus target? I tried appending focus to the unitID (as in "party1focus"), but no dice. |
| 23:03.17 | Fwip | The only alternative I can think of at the moment is to have each party member broadcast information about their focus continually, but it feels really messy |
| 23:05.10 | Pkekyo | what's "focus" anyways? |
| 23:05.44 | Xerophyte | Fwip: I'm not 100% sure here, but I think that's the only way. The arena enemy unit frame mods I know of get target info partly by broadcasting focus info, at least, and I assume they wouldn't if they didn't have to |
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| 23:06.05 | Fwip | Okay, thanks Xero |
| 23:07.13 | Xerophyte | Fwip: Could ask in http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6930.0 as I imagine Grayhoof knows for certain |
| 23:08.22 | Fwip | Xero: Thanks a bunch for your help; and I'm sure you're right. |
| 23:11.02 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r43803 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.toc: Baggins_ItemRack: Update toc |
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| 23:11.38 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r43805 10Baggins_Usable/Baggins_Usable.toc: Baggins_Usable: Update toc |
| 23:11.41 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 23:12.04 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 10h 20m 52s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 23:12.04 | Pkekyo | anyone know if it's possible to make an addon that will upload your ignorelist to a database? |
| 23:12.29 | Pkekyo | - for the purpose of using on a website, that is |
| 23:13.39 | Saint-N | pkey: im guess some oif the friends/ignore list addons have the ability to export |
| 23:14.02 | Saint-N | but im guessing the data w2ould need to be maniputlated once you got it for intergration to the site |
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| 23:14.33 | cncfanatics | well |
| 23:14.39 | cncfanatics | you could jsut get the addon's saved bars |
| 23:14.44 | cncfanatics | and parse em with whatever language you please |
| 23:14.59 | Saint-N | oh i didnt say it was hard to parse ;P |
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| 23:15.09 | Saint-N | just that he'd have to do it ;) |
| 23:15.52 | cncfanatics | I didnt say it was hard to parse either |
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| 23:18.24 | Cyric | wow i am REALLY impressed with antiX-mepis |
| 23:18.47 | Saint-N | cncfanatics: we were just re-iterating each other |
| 23:20.34 | NuSkooler | Can anyone give a new wow mod developer some pointers on where to go for basic window/widget creation? In looking at the existing mods for ACE, I don't see any standard "widgets" -- listviews, etc. Everyone seems to have their own implementation.. |
| 23:20.51 | Xuerian | NuSkooler: There's a new window lib, I believe the name is similar to what i just said |
| 23:20.55 | Cyric | there arent widigits per se |
| 23:21.12 | NuSkooler | I saw AceGUI but apparently I'm not supposed to use that?! |
| 23:21.19 | Cyric | well.... |
| 23:21.21 | Cyric | you can |
| 23:21.24 | Cyric | i wouldnt |
| 23:21.32 | Xuerian | I also believe Mikk would be the one to talk to, if he was here |
| 23:21.32 | Cyric | err *I* wouldnt |
| 23:22.09 | Xuerian | NuSkooler: AceGUI is way depricated. |
| 23:22.31 | Xuerian | NuSkooler: Look into WindowLib |
| 23:22.32 | NuSkooler | well for example, i looked at he recount config window source -- uses CreateFrame(), does a bunch of custom stuff to create a scrolled window, blah balh. I look at the source for a non-ACE mod (RnS DKP Manager), and they have all the .xml stuff, fkdsaj so confusing |
| 23:22.52 | NuSkooler | Does WindowLib have basics of for eg.. scrolled list, dropdowns, etc.? |
| 23:22.58 | Xuerian | http://wowace.com/wiki/WindowLib |
| 23:23.18 | Xuerian | NuSkooler: There is no ace equivalent of a gui toolkit, since it's hardly a leap from code to the wow gui |
| 23:23.22 | Xuerian | wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 23:23.23 | NuSkooler | i just dont' want to have to reinvent the wheel for to say throw a list of strings in a scrollbox |
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| 23:25.27 | NuSkooler | so given the link there, there is scrollframe which is like a CreateFrame() using "SCROLLFRAME" right? And I have to do all the code every time just to throw some strings in there? |
| 23:25.53 | NuSkooler | I mean if i gotta do that, I gotta do that, just seems odd... |
| 23:26.07 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 23:26.10 | Xuerian | No |
| 23:26.16 | Xuerian | WindowLib is just that, something to handle windows |
| 23:26.32 | Xuerian | You really should take a look at wowwiki's interface pages |
| 23:27.32 | NuSkooler | is the standard pratice always to do the XML route? e.g., I create my basic ui in .XML then just fill the guts in lua? |
| 23:27.45 | Xuerian | Both in lua. |
| 23:27.50 | Xuerian | Though it's up to preference. |
| 23:28.22 | NuSkooler | my preference wuold be pure code haha |
| 23:28.32 | NuSkooler | lemme check out those links you guys gave me, i'll bug some more i'm sure :) |
| 23:28.52 | Xuerian | ~wowapi |
| 23:28.53 | purl | (.*?) http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1 |
| 23:28.56 | Xuerian | hm |
| 23:29.29 | Xuerian | wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API and wowwiki.com/Widget_API are all you really need |
| 23:29.37 | Xuerian | Read through other addons to get ideas on how they did it |
| 23:29.37 | cncfanatics | NuSkooler, what are you trying to make ? |
| 23:30.27 | NuSkooler | I'd like to make a ACE-ified DKP manager for my guild. I know there is DKPMon and such out there, but it just doesn't have all the goodies I want and extending it doesn't seem like the best opt |
| 23:30.45 | NuSkooler | I'd like it more like RnS DKP, but with ACE, dewdrop stuff, FuBar, blah |
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| 23:32.04 | nevcairiel | man i finally got the last item i wanted from karazhan today .. i never have to go there again =P |
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| 23:32.21 | cncfanatics | NuSkooler, waterfall is pretty complete in what you can do with its API, but its mainly aimed for config GUIs, but can be used for other stuff too |
| 23:32.22 | Xuerian | lol, grats nevcairiel |
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| 23:33.03 | Strigoi|LR | nevcairiel grats lol still need shitty neck ;p |
| 23:33.03 | NuSkooler | yeah i was checking that out - seems like it could handle most of the options I need |
| 23:33.11 | Strigoi|LR | damn :( it's impossible to dps in 40 men raid as shadow priest :) |
| 23:33.19 | Strigoi|LR | dots are constantly getting pushed off :( |
| 23:33.23 | Saint-N | christ myback hurts |
| 23:33.26 | Saint-N | stupid ps2 |
| 23:33.43 | NuSkooler | i need some custom frames though, e.g. a main raid view window where you can view all the people in the raid, what they've won, etc. |
| 23:33.45 | nevcairiel | who does 40 mans these days? |
| 23:33.53 | Sole | 40 mans are funny to do |
| 23:33.54 | Strigoi|LR | we do :D |
| 23:33.55 | Sole | thats about it |
| 23:34.05 | Strigoi|LR | nevcairiel just killed KT :> |
| 23:34.12 | Saint-N | 40mans rules for kazz ;P |
| 23:34.26 | Saint-N | and onyx is quite funny too |
| 23:34.28 | nevcairiel | i would like to do that, we didnt manage to kill 4H before BC |
| 23:34.32 | nevcairiel | but our guild is too lazy =P |
| 23:34.42 | Sole | 4H is such a fun fight |
| 23:34.42 | Strigoi|LR | http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7522/wowscrnshot071507032018zc6.jpg |
| 23:34.45 | Saint-N | heh yeah keying for naxx is a pain |
| 23:34.56 | nevcairiel | hm nah we are mostly keyed all |
| 23:35.08 | cncfanatics | NuSkooler, that could be done with waterfall too, easely |
| 23:35.11 | Saint-N | its still a good challenge thought with a 40man because of how the encouters were set up |
| 23:35.11 | Strigoi|LR | 4 Hm was .... so damn ez:\ |
| 23:35.12 | Sole | Sain-N: would you recommend shadow priest for pvp? |
| 23:35.14 | cncfanatics | the hardest thing is to get used to the API |
| 23:35.24 | cncfanatics | you kinda need Nargiddley online as soon as you get an error you can't solve |
| 23:35.35 | Saint-N | sole: i'd reccomend shadow for everything ;) |
| 23:35.36 | cncfanatics | (my case currently with FlexBar2, cant continue cuz nargiddley is offline and there's no docs -.-) |
| 23:35.44 | Strigoi|LR | that was like all dps zerged down thane (3rd mark) > zerged down morgrain (7th mark) |
| 23:35.47 | Saint-N | if yopu're not the primary dps though go with the holy dps spec |
| 23:35.53 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: read the code? :) |
| 23:35.54 | Saint-N | cuz those are as annoying as fuck in pvp |
| 23:36.00 | Sole | about 15 members of my guild |
| 23:36.00 | Strigoi|LR | then noobs went for zeliek.... BOOM 25 ppl died from 1 beam :DDD |
| 23:36.02 | Sole | and the rest pugs |
| 23:36.06 | Sole | managed to get to sapph |
| 23:36.13 | Saint-N | disc priests are pretty annoying too once you've got the hang of p[laying them |
| 23:36.17 | NuSkooler | cncfanatics > really? i gathered it was more of just a easy way to organize options for hte most part |
| 23:36.20 | nevcairiel | getting to saph is easy |
| 23:36.26 | nevcairiel | a pug did that on my realm |
| 23:36.28 | Sole | and then the pugs didnt have enough (meaning none at all) FR to take on saph |
| 23:36.32 | nevcairiel | but they never killed saphh |
| 23:36.53 | Sole | Saint-N: so you dont feel like a 1 trick pony in pvp as shadow? |
| 23:37.07 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, feel free to checkout FlexBar2 |
| 23:37.07 | Strigoi|LR | going AQ40 now :p |
| 23:37.12 | cncfanatics | and tell me why the error is there |
| 23:37.14 | cncfanatics | i'm totaly lost :/ |
| 23:37.20 | Saint-N | sole: ive been full on shadow since i started |
| 23:37.25 | Saint-N | i wouldnt have it any other way |
| 23:37.30 | Sole | hehe ok' |
| 23:37.33 | Saint-N | as a priest you're a target regardless |
| 23:37.44 | Saint-N | the choice is do you wanna help everyone else or melt faces ;P |
| 23:37.53 | Saint-N | before you're zerged that is ;) |
| 23:37.59 | Sole | well Im really enjoying leveling him so far but Im a bit worried about arena play |
| 23:38.08 | Saint-N | nah shadow priests shine in pvp |
| 23:38.14 | Saint-N | look at this way |
| 23:38.18 | Sole | maybe Ive just been facing bad ones |
| 23:38.22 | Sole | because I mostly tear them up on my rogue |
| 23:38.25 | Sole | I blame clos |
| 23:38.26 | NuSkooler | Is there any documentation on Waterfall other than ~/wiki/Waterfall-1.0 ? The documentation section just has a [edit] button =/ |
| 23:38.26 | Saint-N | priests were the second last class to get re-do updates |
| 23:38.32 | Saint-N | mages being last |
| 23:38.40 | Saint-N | and we STILL owned most of the classes that got upgrades |
| 23:38.50 | Dustwhisper | MAGES are so nerfed and fucked over now tbh |
| 23:38.51 | Saint-N | to the point that we caught some nerfs from it |
| 23:38.53 | Sole | NuSkooler: just create an aceopts table and plug it into waterfall, easiest way |
| 23:38.56 | Dustwhisper | i have to pull fucking rabbits out of my ass |
| 23:38.58 | Dustwhisper | to beat warlocks on dps |
| 23:39.09 | Saint-N | yeah locks pallys and shamans are umm |
| 23:39.11 | Saint-N | special |
| 23:39.22 | Sole | shamans? srsly? |
| 23:39.25 | cncfanatics | NuSkooler, Nargiddley was too lazy to add any yet |
| 23:39.28 | Saint-N | i find it annoying that locks somehow have better survivability than a mage |
| 23:39.34 | cncfanatics | I know how the API works for the biggest part, but I'm lost on some parts of it |
| 23:39.42 | Saint-N | sole watch shaman dps some time ;P |
| 23:39.48 | Saint-N | a good shammy that is |
| 23:39.51 | Sole | Saint-N: you mean ench sham in raids? |
| 23:39.59 | Sole | Saint-N: that doesnt bother me, I stopped raiding :P |
| 23:40.03 | Saint-N | heh |
| 23:40.09 | Saint-N | now imagine that annoying dps hitting you ;P |
| 23:40.15 | NuSkooler | ok, lemme screw around with that a bit |
| 23:40.26 | NuSkooler | see if i can't create something =p |
| 23:40.33 | cncfanatics | NuSkooler, if you want , feel free to checkout FlexBar2 and tell me why I get a nil table error |
| 23:40.39 | Sole | the waterfall API is a bit whoa, so I just stick to using AceOpts tables |
| 23:40.39 | Saint-N | but as it stands shadow priests are still the bestester ;P |
| 23:40.43 | cncfanatics | it has lots of API code example too |
| 23:40.52 | cncfanatics | Sole, the API aint that bad when you get a grip of it :p |
| 23:40.52 | Saint-N | waterfall+niagara == sectz |
| 23:41.11 | Sole | Saint-N: hokay I'll just level him and melt faces |
| 23:41.16 | Saint-N | heh thats a good boy |
| 23:41.23 | Sole | was thinking of leveling my lock |
| 23:41.31 | Sole | but I'll just finish my spriest and shaman |
| 23:41.32 | Saint-N | and if you dont want just my word as any priest in here ;P |
| 23:41.33 | Sole | for the quest gold |
| 23:41.38 | Saint-N | kenlyric has tone too |
| 23:41.41 | Saint-N | err one too |
| 23:41.47 | cncfanatics | gonna logout for the night |
| 23:41.48 | cncfanatics | bye all |
| 23:41.49 | Saint-N | and a couple of others ;P |
| 23:41.57 | Sole | hehe I should stop going to the forums for advice |
| 23:41.59 | cncfanatics | someone tell Nargiddley to contact me asap when he logs in |
| 23:42.01 | Saint-N | fuck i wish my ipaq would charge faster |
| 23:42.15 | Sole | because even clicking on the stickies I still manage to see the wave of bitch threads and thats always depressing |
| 23:42.18 | Saint-N | forums are alright ifyou wanna play with specs |
| 23:42.34 | Sole | but then again, most people only post on the forums if theyve got a problem |
| 23:42.40 | Saint-N | heh yup |
| 23:42.42 | Sole | ok gonna go eat bai |
| 23:42.44 | Saint-N | or wanna show off thier epeen |
| 23:44.06 | NuSkooler | ok another quick Q: how can i browse SVN on here so i can see a complete list of libs? e.g. under Libraries, Waterfall-1.0 isn't even listed, but i assume it's there =p |
| 23:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | http://files.wowace.com/Waterfall-1.0/ i'm pretty sure it's there :P |
| 23:45.40 | NuSkooler | well you "know" it's there, how am i going to see a list of what's available or to even know that directory would exist? |
| 23:46.04 | NuSkooler | there is files.wowace.com/ but that' sjust a bunch of zips |
| 23:46.25 | NuSkooler | or do i just derive the dir name from the zip name and call it good? |
| 23:46.49 | NuSkooler | i'm trying ot find a SVN browser so i can just sync code from SVN |
| 23:47.00 | durcyn | you aren't very smart, are you. |
| 23:47.05 | NuSkooler | sigh |
| 23:47.11 | NuSkooler | great answer |
| 23:47.56 | NightHawkTheSane | NuSkooler: files.wowace.com is everything that's in trunk. |
| 23:48.05 | NightHawkTheSane | no need to use svn unless you plan on committing to it. |
| 23:48.47 | NuSkooler | right, i realize that -- but it's all zipped up revisions. What I'm asking is can I not just download directly from SVN (yes, if i have the path), so is there not a SVN browser so I can just choose which modules to check out? |
| 23:49.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:46] <NuSkooler> or do i just derive the dir name from the zip name and call it good? <--correct |
| 23:50.04 | NightHawkTheSane | a) yes there is. google it. b) there's absolutely NO reason to be checking out code directly from svn unless you're either developing/committing or testing code that on a more realtime basis than as often as the zips are generated. |
| 23:50.51 | NuSkooler | strange pratice, but ok. |
| 23:51.39 | NuSkooler | if i want to build, say mozilla or anything from sourceforge, i just SVN check out the source -- and browse the SVN repository if needed =) |
| 23:51.43 | sylvanaar | add 50k users its not so strange |
| 23:51.50 | NuSkooler | anyway, ty, i'll just do that. |
| 23:52.05 | NuSkooler | yeah i can understand that |
| 23:52.08 | NightHawkTheSane | NuSkooler: subversion is not a distribution mechanism. you shouldn't be using it like one. |
| 23:52.49 | NuSkooler | indeed, it's a version control mechinism, and one would assume if i wanted the latest source, i'd just checkout directly (ala any other source control project i can think of out there) |
| 23:53.01 | NuSkooler | if machine crunch/bandwidth is your concern, I can understand that. |
| 23:53.07 | NuSkooler | i'll just grab the zips |
| 23:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | it is. |
| 23:53.34 | NuSkooler | see it is, but don't tell me i'm an ass for assuming i could use SVN like I normally would for any other project known to man =0 |
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| 23:54.21 | Saint-N | NuSkooler: it's better to say that the files.wowace.com IS the most up to date for your purposes.. checking out the libs would mean in this case you were going to mod them and commit them after the fact... the libs are just that libraryies like your /usr/lib .h files if you didnt make it or arent going to make "fixes" to it you shouldnt be checking it out ;P |
| 23:54.45 | NightHawkTheSane | a) i tell everyone they're an ass, because usually they are. b) Almost every project I've seen has an alternate method for distribution than directly checking out/exporting from the svn repo. |
| 23:55.00 | Benumbed | lol ^ |
| 23:55.05 | Saint-N | libs are mainly a one way street for anyone otherthan the creator ;P |
| 23:55.08 | NuSkooler | well if they are development releases, i'm sure i'll find bugs and fix them :) |
| 23:55.22 | Saint-N | everything in wowace is dev state ;P |
| 23:55.27 | NuSkooler | exactly. |
| 23:55.30 | Saint-N | so thats a bad argument ;P |
| 23:55.33 | sylvanaar | and prolly 95% of the message is for everyone else who is listening so they stick to the zips also |
| 23:55.35 | NuSkooler | lol |
| 23:55.41 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: also true. |
| 23:55.56 | Pkekyo | >.< |
| 23:55.57 | Saint-N | AND there is a point that as a noobie to it YOU prolly shouldnt be editting the libs and commiting them for everyone else as it might fuck up thier work ;P |
| 23:56.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: i know the feeling. |
| 23:56.16 | NuSkooler | of course i wouldn't be commiting them |
| 23:56.24 | Saint-N | then theres no reason to check them out ;P |
| 23:56.24 | NuSkooler | anyway, i see no point in arguing what you have setup. |
| 23:56.29 | NuSkooler | lol |
| 23:56.31 | Pkekyo | I just bought 25 new fricking DVDs and I've seen them all, including special features allready...NEED MORE MONEY |
| 23:56.33 | Saint-N | see the point? |
| 23:56.35 | Saint-N | heh |
| 23:56.53 | Saint-N | pkekeyo: usenet ;P |
| 23:56.54 | Benumbed | Pkekyo, download more? |
| 23:56.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: bought? i just download movies. I'm just at a loss of what to download next. |
| 23:56.59 | NuSkooler | if i wanted to get the latest mozilla source and us it's libs, i'd check it out ... |
| 23:57.03 | Benumbed | exactly =P |
| 23:57.08 | NuSkooler | or the other option, would be to download a "release". |
| 23:57.09 | sylvanaar | dont get defensive - we gotta say this stuff - nothing personal |
| 23:57.11 | NuSkooler | standard pratice :) |
| 23:57.13 | Saint-N | a.b.movies.divx has shitloads of rare/really bad/enjoyable movies on it ;P |
| 23:57.37 | Benumbed | i just use merlins portal |
| 23:57.38 | NuSkooler | anyway, dling zips now & digging source, thx |
| 23:57.41 | Benumbed | and grabit, then yawn |
| 23:57.53 | Saint-N | NuSkooler: thats true in a semi case.... in that case you cant get thye libs from elsewhere, in this case however the libs you'd need to "compile" with ARE on files.wowace.com ;P |
| 23:57.57 | Pkekyo | I've done my fair share of downloading, but...it's no fun, I'm trying to build a substantial DVD collection... |
| 23:58.04 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r43806 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.toc: |
| 23:58.04 | CIA-22 | VisualHeal: |
| 23:58.04 | CIA-22 | - Adjusted TOC to accommodate WAU |
| 23:58.08 | NightHawkTheSane | NuSkooler: to be sure, mozilla also offers archives of their source for download, much like woace ;) |
| 23:58.21 | Benumbed | hope you are ready to replace with bluray soon then =x |
| 23:58.30 | Benumbed | i have like 500 or so dvd's, gave up |
| 23:58.47 | QuantumDelta | didn't bluray lose? Oo |
| 23:58.59 | Benumbed | not while sony has money they wont |
| 23:59.04 | NuSkooler | yeah they have nightly archives just like you guys dow |
| 23:59.05 | NuSkooler | do* |
| 23:59.13 | Benumbed | blu ray has most wide selection still i think |
| 23:59.13 | Saint-N | so think of the libs as package releases of support libs like the X11 libs, if you were installing x11 you'd one way download the libs you wouldnt svn checkout the entire source tree and libs and kernel source and gcc and gcc libs JUST to compile your xwin |
| 23:59.14 | Pkekyo | bluray and hddvd will both lose, just like what happened with betamax and their adversary noone remembers the name of... |
| 23:59.14 | NightHawkTheSane | thats why I like downloading movies. Data doesn't get outmoded. |
| 23:59.24 | Pkekyo | I'll still be watching DVDs in 50 years :> |
| 23:59.25 | sylvanaar | can one of you FF people try the netinstall of WAU and see if you can do it |
| 23:59.37 | Saint-N | ff? |
| 23:59.39 | QuantumDelta | tell that to FAT32 NightHawkAtWork xP! |
| 23:59.39 | NuSkooler | but i ask a question of "where is the SVN browser" and i get respones like i'm an asshat for assuming there would be one |
| 23:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | firefox |
| 23:59.41 | Saint-N | fucking freaky? |
| 23:59.44 | QuantumDelta | er |
| 23:59.44 | Saint-N | heh |
| 23:59.44 | NuSkooler | like "zomg no one does that!" |
| 23:59.49 | Strigoi|LR | rofl just pulled bugs family and 1 trash mob pack and still killed kri :D that was fun ;p |
