| 00:00.11 | Antiarc|Work | Knaledge: Consider replacing it with GetLink |
| 00:00.19 | Jaxon | Knaledge: You can just type " /ludwig <searchterm>" |
| 00:00.24 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.39 | Antiarc|Work | Uses the client cache, so it freezes your UI for a sec, but doesn't take much RAM at all. |
| 00:00.40 | Knaledge | well thats cool but then... wouldn't I just open Ludwig? |
| 00:00.41 | kenlyric | i like the lootlink type addons that use the cache for data storage. |
| 00:00.48 | Knaledge | oh oh I see |
| 00:00.58 | Jaxon | Knaledge: LootLink also supports Just typing the link into the editbox |
| 00:00.59 | kenlyric | so they have minimal mem usage. |
| 00:01.22 | Jaxon | s/LootLink/Ludwig/ |
| 00:01.25 | Knaledge | I just REALLY like Saeris LootLink.. only problem is.. that addon is DED. |
| 00:01.27 | Knaledge | Dead |
| 00:01.50 | Knaledge | So I'm weighing what to use next |
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| 00:02.06 | Jaxon | I can recommend both Ludwig and Linkerator |
| 00:02.08 | kenlyric | whodrop :) |
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| 00:02.15 | Knaledge | So does Ludwig use like 8 or 10MB if I have 24k items? |
| 00:02.27 | kenlyric | i tried linkerator, worked pretty much like lootlink. |
| 00:02.27 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:02.36 | Arrowmaster | ludwig uses almost no ram |
| 00:02.43 | kenlyric | ludwig is the one that uses the cache file, right? |
| 00:02.48 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:03.05 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.07 | Knaledge | also - does Ludwig supplement addons like AtlasLoot? AtlasLoot will use LootLink's tooltips rather than Blizzards |
| 00:03.08 | Tuller | Knaledge: I'm at 2.66mb with the window open + 6.8k items |
| 00:03.27 | Knaledge | do you offer a item converter from LootLink to Ludwig? |
| 00:03.38 | Tuller | Knaledge: ludwig does not store data |
| 00:03.54 | Tuller | Knaledge: it only has what you |
| 00:04.06 | Tuller | Knaledge: you've seen, which resets after every server restart, basically |
| 00:04.40 | kenlyric | but it can fish for any item, as long as you're sure the server has seen it before. |
| 00:04.43 | Azurewrath | Knaledge: The WoW Client caches all items it has seen/rendered since the last patch, wether you have any addons installed or not. Ludwig just reads that file and stores no own date. Thats why it uses very little ram. |
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| 00:05.08 | Knaledge | Thats different from LootLink in that it just stores the link to an item and assumes you've seen an item it has stored rather than droppping the item list back to zero? |
| 00:05.12 | Knaledge | AH ok |
| 00:05.34 | Knaledge | so so... alright so if I have ludwig and I have 10 items stored in it.. or at least "listed" lets say |
| 00:05.56 | Knaledge | and I know of an 11th item I wanted to look for.. I can still search for it via Ludwig and it will then appear? |
| 00:06.26 | Azurewrath | if the client has "seen" it since the last patch, yes. Otherwise, no. |
| 00:06.33 | Tuller | right |
| 00:06.39 | Knaledge | if the client had seen it wouldnt it appear in th list then? |
| 00:06.45 | Tuller | correct |
| 00:06.46 | Knaledge | or do you mean client like the server |
| 00:07.09 | Azurewrath | Client = wow.exe, basically. |
| 00:07.28 | Knaledge | I get it but I'm confused a bit - I understand how item caching and linking works, the check and balance |
| 00:07.49 | Knaledge | but you;re saying Ludwig is a addon that stores only items I've seen whetehr it be via mouseover on a player or in chat or what have you |
| 00:07.54 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, with LootLink, the item database is completely stored in the UI's RAM allocation |
| 00:08.08 | Jaxon | Knaledge: the WoW client keeps a local item cache. Ludwig reads from that. |
| 00:08.12 | Knaledge | and if, for some reason, I haven't seen an item personally but I STILL want to search for T6 shoulders (let's just say) |
| 00:08.22 | Antiarc|Work | With Ludwig, it uses API calls to access the WoW client's loaded item cache, which isn't in the UI's RAM. |
| 00:08.31 | Knaledge | I can type in a search for T6 shoudlers in Ludwig, my UI will hang up, and it will search my cache/query the server? |
| 00:08.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:08.44 | Antiarc|Work | It likely won't query the server |
| 00:08.44 | kenlyric | a nice in between would be a mod that caches itemIDs and names, but all the details are stored in the cache. |
| 00:08.49 | Jaxon | Knaledge: LootLink stores an item and uses so much memory doing it, it can fabricate an item's tooltip even if it isn't safe to link. |
| 00:09.00 | Knaledge | correct |
| 00:09.05 | kenlyric | so you can still search for an item by name, but has to query the server if you haven't seen it yet. |
| 00:09.07 | Knaledge | thats how I think I understand LootLink |
| 00:09.08 | Antiarc|Work | Querying is somewhat dangerous, in that if you try to link an item the client hasn't seen, you get disconnected from the server. |
| 00:09.12 | Arrowmaster | problem is that theres multiple items with the same name |
| 00:09.43 | Knaledge | so basically it just seems very logical how Ludwig operates |
| 00:10.06 | Knaledge | I'm just not sure if ... it just seems like LootLink is so awesome that.. why does it exist if Ludwig does? |
| 00:10.22 | Knaledge | where's Coruss to be like "But Ilike LootLink because..." |
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| 00:10.46 | Arrowmaster | becasue lootlink is an unneeded ram sink |
| 00:10.53 | Arrowmaster | for some poeple |
| 00:11.08 | cladhaire | yeah i only ever need ludwig |
| 00:11.15 | cladhaire | someone says something, i just look it up and link it, np np |
| 00:11.16 | Knaledge | So ok would AtlasLoot use Ludwig tooltips then? |
| 00:11.32 | Tuller | Knaledge: ludwig uses standard tooltips |
| 00:11.34 | dylanm | Ludwig doesn't really have anything to do with tooltips, no? |
| 00:11.51 | Tuller | if I remember, lootlink generates their own? |
| 00:12.04 | Knaledge | yes |
| 00:12.05 | Knaledge | it does |
| 00:12.05 | Arrowmaster | ludwig doesnt store tooltips, lootlink records the entire tooltip |
| 00:12.09 | Xerophyte_ | Ludwig doesn't query the server for anything without being expressly told an itemID through /command, it just checks your cache and if it's not there it's not in Ludwig. LootLink maintains a gargantuan database that it can refer to if the item is uncached |
| 00:12.33 | Knaledge | thats a pretty clear example Xeno, thank you |
| 00:12.34 | dylanm | cladhaire: Yeah same. One walk through Orgrimmar and I've seen just about everything :p |
| 00:12.42 | cladhaire | :P |
| 00:12.49 | Knaledge | can Ludwig insert ilevel? |
| 00:13.01 | cladhaire | ludwig has nothing to do with tooltips |
| 00:13.04 | cladhaire | so no, it can't =) |
| 00:13.07 | Knaledge | k just checking just checking ;p |
| 00:13.14 | cladhaire | but an ilevel inserter can, when you make a link using ludwig |
| 00:13.16 | Tuller | ratingbuster has ilevel implemented |
| 00:13.22 | Jaxon | I use RatingsBuster for extra tooltip item info |
| 00:13.24 | Knaledge | that is true |
| 00:13.26 | Arrowmaster | so does mendeleev |
| 00:13.30 | Azurewrath | Knaledge: try RatingBuster for ilevel, itemid and many other things |
| 00:13.30 | Knaledge | I use RatingBuster also |
| 00:13.44 | Tuller | now, a cookie if someone can make ratingbuster not so huge :) |
| 00:13.48 | Xerophyte_ | Mendeleev does ilvl as well |
| 00:13.51 | Knaledge | I wish in RatingBuster I could drop an item into a "slot" in some window sort of and then compare THAT item to one I'm ousing over |
| 00:14.22 | Knaledge | I buy all my stuff on my bank nd send it to my main but its hard/useless to determin if an item is "good" or not for my main since it comapres it to what I've equipped... |
| 00:14.25 | Knaledge | which is nothing. |
| 00:14.37 | Knaledge | but I digress |
| 00:14.54 | Knaledge | Ok so.... LootLink = gone.. hello Ludwig |
| 00:15.04 | Tuller | oh good call, I should implement item comparison in ludwig |
| 00:15.07 | Knaledge | Tuller are you pretty good about updating if an issue exists (credible ones) |
| 00:15.08 | Tuller | as in just the tooltip calls |
| 00:15.21 | Tuller | Knaledge: usually :) |
| 00:15.22 | Knaledge | yes please |
| 00:15.35 | Knaledge | please do as lootlink does right now and I know it'd be something I'd immediately post |
| 00:15.41 | Knaledge | Clad can attest to that |
| 00:15.54 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 00:16.34 | Knaledge | but do you know what I mean with ratingbuster? Example was today I was on my main saying ... gee I hate my ACLG's... I wish I had better gloves at level 67 |
| 00:16.47 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43671 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: 15 point moving average > 2 point moving average. :V |
| 00:16.55 | pb_ee1 | night ;) |
| 00:17.06 | Knaledge | I hop onto my bank alt with a ton of cash and look up fel leather gloves to try out. Thing is... I can see Fel Leather Gloves.. I can see ACLG;s... |
| 00:17.12 | Knaledge | but RatingBuster doesnt compare the two |
| 00:17.19 | Knaledge | no way to directly compare two items tit for tat |
| 00:17.58 | Knaledge | it ALWAYS bases it off of what I have right now on me, and unfortunately... my bank is naked. |
| 00:18.03 | Knaledge | and he's a dwarf. |
| 00:18.13 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.53 | Knaledge | but again, I digress. |
| 00:19.19 | Knaledge | Tuller how extensive is your search capability? |
| 00:19.39 | Knaledge | I want to find a eqlevel 67 and ilevel 90 item |
| 00:19.46 | Knaledge | it's leather, and it's on my hands. |
| 00:20.02 | Knaledge | will Ludwig show me a list of items matching or beating that criteria? |
| 00:20.12 | Tuller | Knaledge: I don't do item level searches, but i do do the rest |
| 00:20.26 | Knaledge | max and min? |
| 00:20.33 | Tuller | yep |
| 00:20.34 | Knaledge | rarity, etc.? |
| 00:20.44 | Tuller | any AH category, basically |
| 00:20.47 | Knaledge | awesome. |
| 00:21.05 | Azurewrath | how about using thottbot? Ludwig links items.. that's all. At least from my pov ;) |
| 00:21.21 | Knaledge | And SellFish vs ItemPriceTooltip vs Informan |
| 00:21.35 | Knaledge | Seems like SellFish is fairly popular |
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| 00:22.47 | Knaledge | damn.. none of these are on the files.wowace.com listing |
| 00:22.48 | kenlyric | itemprice is updated fairly frequently. |
| 00:22.56 | Knaledge | does it need to be? |
| 00:23.00 | Knaledge | I mean like... what for? heh |
| 00:23.02 | kenlyric | itemprice and its tooltip are. |
| 00:23.49 | Knaledge | ah so ItemPrice and ItemPricetooltip are two addons vs Sellfish being one? |
| 00:23.51 | kenlyric | it doesn't need to be until there's an item and you don't have a price for it... then you want it updated :) |
| 00:23.57 | Knaledge | haha true |
| 00:24.05 | Tuller | itempricetooltip is one item, + a library |
| 00:24.41 | Mec | is there any way in the wow API to determine if you're solo, in a party, or in a raid? I cannot find anything referencing this. |
| 00:25.00 | Knaledge | I think there is |
| 00:25.08 | Knaledge | the same way it deermines if a user is in a group upon invite |
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| 00:26.05 | Knaledge | Hey Tuller if you do item comp tooltips would it be possible to do an option for only showing ones for useable items? |
| 00:26.16 | Knaledge | like I'm a rogue. DILLIGAF about cloth? |
| 00:26.24 | Knaledge | etc. |
| 00:26.33 | Arrowmaster | more of an option for a comparison mod |
| 00:26.39 | Arrowmaster | not ludwig |
| 00:26.40 | Tuller | well, the easy thing will be to not hold shift over the item :) |
| 00:26.47 | Knaledge | clever ;) |
| 00:26.50 | Knaledge | I like it |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r43672 10AtlasLoot/ (8 files in 5 dirs): |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-22 | - Old Instances and Rep loot update. |
| 00:27.12 | Knaledge | thats how you plan on implementing comparison tooltips then? holding shift? |
| 00:27.26 | Knaledge | OH and if that is the case, configurable button? |
| 00:27.32 | Knaledge | like say.. alt or ctrl |
| 00:27.35 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r43673 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 00:27.35 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 00:27.35 | CIA-22 | - Old Instances and Rep loot update. |
| 00:27.43 | Arrowmaster | blizzard does the comparison tooltips not ludwig |
| 00:28.03 | Knaledge | yeah but why hold shift then? |
| 00:28.10 | Knaledge | wait is that how BLIZZARD does it? |
| 00:28.11 | Xerophyte | Mec: There's a UnitInRaid("player") and UnitInParty("player") |
| 00:28.15 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:28.21 | Knaledge | really? |
| 00:28.25 | Arrowmaster | UnitInParty() is unreliable |
| 00:28.29 | Knaledge | what addon am I using then that does it automatically? |
| 00:28.32 | Xerophyte | At least, those were what I could find doing a quick glance of the API |
| 00:28.37 | Knaledge | I've never had to do that before. |
| 00:28.47 | Arrowmaster | Knaledge: equipcompare? eqcompare? tekkompare? |
| 00:28.52 | Mec | How is it unreliable? |
| 00:28.55 | Knaledge | ah nvm no no |
| 00:28.57 | Knaledge | you're right |
| 00:29.01 | Arrowmaster | it returns 1 when solo |
| 00:29.04 | Knaledge | I'm thinking of AtlasLoot |
| 00:29.08 | Benumbed | why would violation say not active and be greyed out |
| 00:29.18 | Knaledge | AtlasLoot automatically does blizzrdbased item comparison |
| 00:29.20 | Benumbed | i did sync report on him, and says only threat module active |
| 00:29.27 | kenlyric | Benumbed: it seems to be horked. |
| 00:29.39 | Mec | hmm thats decently useless |
| 00:29.43 | Benumbed | ohh so one of latest revisions broke it? |
| 00:29.45 | kenlyric | I couldn't create any new windows after I deleted the horked one... trying a lua clear now. |
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| 00:30.01 | Xerophyte | Yay :) So, UnitExists("party1") instead? |
| 00:30.22 | Knaledge | awesome. making a switch to Ludwig now |
| 00:30.27 | Knaledge | what did you mean though Tuller |
| 00:30.32 | Mec | oh apparently GetNumPartyMembers() is more usefull |
| 00:30.40 | Knaledge | when you said "Oh snap I should implement tooltip comparison" ? |
| 00:30.55 | Tuller | that I should implement item comparison :) |
| 00:31.00 | Tuller | the hold shift down thing |
| 00:31.06 | Mec | will UnitInRaid("Player") Always return 1? |
| 00:31.19 | Knaledge | not sure if I follow but wsnt that just clarified that that is handled by Blizzard? |
| 00:31.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:31.59 | Knaledge | or can you control whether or not Blizz UI will react accordingly |
| 00:31.59 | Tuller | its handled by blizzard, but I have to call their function |
| 00:32.03 | Arrowmaster | UnitInRaid is useful, UnitInParty isnt |
| 00:32.04 | Knaledge | ah ok yeah |
| 00:32.18 | Knaledge | cool yeah that would be helpful namely for RatingBuster and just to see it |
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| 00:32.21 | CIA-22 | Furious-2.1: |
| 00:32.21 | CIA-22 | - a simple (not yet ready for primetime) library for the Furious* addons |
| 00:32.29 | kenlyric | Benumbed: I just tried a lua reset, and it's still horked. |
| 00:34.01 | kenlyric | hmmm, when did cart_quests get removed from the package? |
| 00:34.09 | Mec | UnitExists("party1") wont really work because it returns 1 in a raid as well |
| 00:34.22 | Saroz | nevcairiel: http://random-guild.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_071107_191640.jpg |
| 00:35.35 | kenlyric | oh god i'm blind |
| 00:35.52 | Hjalte | Is there any way to get more layouts into Pitbull? |
| 00:36.53 | Chompers | could make your own layout |
| 00:37.31 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r43675 10Furious-2.1/ (FuriousChat.lua FuriousGuild.lua): |
| 00:37.31 | CIA-22 | Furious-2.1: |
| 00:37.31 | CIA-22 | - initial file commit. |
| 00:37.31 | CIA-22 | - FuriousChat.lua: some chat stuff for Furious* addons |
| 00:37.31 | CIA-22 | - FuriousGuild.lua: simple guild roster tracking |
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| 00:42.11 | Arrowmaster | Mec: i would just do if not UnitInRaid("player") and GetNumPartyMembers() > 0 then |
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| 00:45.21 | Tuller | hrm, I should probably better integrate ludwig into the default UI |
| 00:45.23 | Mec | the question is, does UnitInRaid("player") return 1 when solo |
| 00:46.49 | ulic | Mec: I just tried it, it does not |
| 00:47.00 | Mec | sweet, thanks |
| 00:47.08 | Knaledge | How do you mean, Tuller? |
| 00:47.16 | Tuller | looks + pushback |
| 00:47.17 | Knaledge | visual style? |
| 00:47.21 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 00:47.26 | Chompers | that's alot of things on your screen Saroz |
| 00:47.39 | NeoTron | my screen during raids makes me sad |
| 00:47.55 | Knaledge | nothing wrong with "borrowing" from Saeris' LootLink |
| 00:48.05 | NeoTron | reminds me of watching CNN financial news with all the tickers, and rap all over |
| 00:48.31 | Strigoi|LR | hmm for some reason since latest revisions of violation it stopped syncing with DM/SWS |
| 00:48.32 | Knaledge | OH! Also, when you use that search entry field at the top of the Ludwig frame, is there a button you can press that will reset the search field AND the list? |
| 00:48.40 | Chompers | what's the tooltip 'targeted by' thing saroz? |
| 00:49.33 | Tuller | Knaledge: well, the reset button probably should reset the search field, but does not currently |
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| 00:50.51 | Knaledge | does the search field dynamically update the list? |
| 00:50.53 | Knaledge | like... |
| 00:50.58 | Knaledge | bloodf |
| 00:51.05 | Knaledge | (and it shows "Bloodfang this this this this this" |
| 00:51.06 | Tuller | Knaledge: yes |
| 00:51.11 | Knaledge | nice |
| 00:51.29 | stavmar | is anyone else having wissues with Assessment? |
| 00:51.40 | Knaledge | then yeah I think you get it with the reset thing |
| 00:51.42 | kenlyric | Strigoi|LR: violation seems to be having some issues. |
| 00:51.45 | Knaledge | yeah like it resets the field |
| 00:51.51 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 00:52.03 | Knaledge | sup |
| 00:54.01 | ckknight | dodgizzla: Parrot will be extremely customizeable |
| 00:54.27 | stavmar | repeating errors with assessment http://ace.pastey.net/70717 |
| 00:55.23 | dodgizzla | ckknight: I hope so :D MSBT is behaving really strange lately, and there's some stuff I wish that would be different :D |
| 00:55.33 | ckknight | example? |
| 00:55.35 | stavmar | i like parrot :-) |
| 00:55.43 | stavmar | very nicely done so far |
| 00:56.01 | dodgizzla | ckknight: e.g. I have set up a trigger when I gain Power Infusion or Heroism |
| 00:56.16 | dodgizzla | And I've taped a kill of Magtheridon where that event would fire when those buffs where about to fade |
| 00:56.16 | Chompers | i hope parrot lets me control space and time |
| 00:56.27 | dodgizzla | e.g. a good 10s after I gained the buff |
| 00:56.33 | ckknight | lametastic. |
| 00:57.10 | ckknight | afaik, when Parrot implements triggers (likely later today), the buff/debuff will lag by only up to 0.5 seconds |
| 00:57.11 | ckknight | at most |
| 00:57.15 | Xuerian | Here's a feature I'd like. Don't cite the source for the damage if it's your current target. |
| 00:57.17 | ckknight | which, imho, is enough. |
| 00:57.37 | ckknight | Xuerian: complex... |
| 00:57.48 | dodgizzla | Also, I like to setup a trigger that tells me I got some +damage buff (e.g. Robe of Elder Scribes, Eye of Magtheridon) so I can go bananas on the target. While it is possible in MSBT, I need to add every buff as its own trigger, although they should all look the same |
| 00:58.20 | Xuerian | ckknight: Worthy challenge then, mm? |
| 00:58.34 | ckknight | Xuerian: it doesn't work with the tag-based system I have |
| 00:58.38 | dodgizzla | So basically I'd like "Is any of these buffs on me: A or B or C ... -> show big banner" |
| 00:58.48 | Xuerian | ckknight: Assmuffins. |
| 00:58.50 | ckknight | also, it's impossible to tell about something if there are multiple units with the same name |
| 00:58.59 | Pkekyo | rofl, I've gotta buy a wristwatch...I NEVER know wether it's day or night |
| 00:59.10 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: Wrist... watch? |
| 00:59.13 | dodgizzla | Anyway, I'm patient. I know Parrot will kick some serious asses |
| 00:59.14 | phreakzter | Any1 using Jwowupdater? I have a weird problem, most addons work perfectly to install. But all of a sudden when i install new addons the program puts then in <WoW folder>/Interface instead of <Wow folder>/Interface/Addons.. |
| 00:59.24 | ckknight | e.g. fighting "Prairie Wolf" and "Prairie Wolf" is kinda hard to tell apart |
| 00:59.31 | Xuerian | ckknight: Indeed |
| 00:59.38 | Xuerian | ckknight: Oh for a mob uid |
| 00:59.42 | dodgizzla | I already run it besides MSBT.. my UI is messed up atm :o |
| 00:59.43 | ckknight | I know... |
| 01:00.01 | Xuerian | ckknight: Offhand I don't see any logical reason for not providing one |
| 01:00.02 | ckknight | dodgizzla: once triggers go in, it'll basically be deemed Beta |
| 01:00.10 | dodgizzla | Much <3 |
| 01:00.14 | Hjalte | ckknight, is there any way to have cowtip show me who in my party is targeting the mob whose tooltip i am watching? |
| 01:00.16 | ckknight | Xuerian: Blizzard R dum |
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| 01:00.28 | ckknight | Hjalte: hrm... no |
| 01:00.33 | Xuerian | They've already blocked the ability to bot from within game which is the only place it'd be useful, external bots can already do it by manhandling the game itself... |
| 01:00.38 | ckknight | Hjalte: though that could be a possibility, theoretically |
| 01:00.45 | dodgizzla | Sooo now that there is some more activity here.. Is there a way to make FuBar show up delayed (instead of immediately on mouseover)? |
| 01:00.46 | Hjalte | ckknight, i know tinytip does it :) |
| 01:00.58 | ckknight | dodgizzla: nope |
| 01:01.06 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Will there ever be? :D |
| 01:01.12 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 01:01.16 | ckknight | I need more ram |
| 01:01.20 | dodgizzla | Okay, who do I have to bribe? :> |
| 01:01.21 | Xuerian | ckknight: Currently have? |
| 01:01.30 | ckknight | dodgizzla: me, likely |
| 01:01.38 | ckknight | dodgizzla: doubt anyone else could understand my uncommented code |
| 01:01.48 | dodgizzla | lolcode? |
| 01:01.50 | ckknight | Xuerian: what? |
| 01:01.57 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Worse. Or better, depending on your pov. |
| 01:02.04 | Xuerian | ckknight: Ram, how much do you currently have? |
| 01:02.10 | ckknight | 1 gig |
| 01:02.10 | Knaledge | @phreak: are you using a Mac? |
| 01:02.19 | Xuerian | ckknight: Feh |
| 01:02.21 | phreakzter | Knaledge: No I'm using a PC, with linux |
| 01:02.25 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 01:02.29 | ckknight | I HAS A BIKE ITZ 2 |
| 01:02.32 | ckknight | INVISIBLE BIKE |
| 01:02.40 | Knaledge | was gonna say I use MacAceUpdater (which is very broken btw) |
| 01:02.46 | Knaledge | but it at least lets me see new addons |
| 01:02.52 | phreakzter | Knaledge: I cannot delete addons either, it doesnt seem to find any installed addons anymore.. |
| 01:02.52 | Xuerian | ckknight: I'd send you 2gb of 2700, but it does seem like I remember you having a laptop, and if you have a desktop, I doubt it'd either be matching or you'd have a mobo that would jive with ecc |
| 01:02.56 | Xuerian | thought that counts though, huh? |
| 01:03.00 | ckknight | Xuerian: Mac laptop. |
| 01:03.02 | phreakzter | Knaledge: hehe okey.. |
| 01:03.08 | Xuerian | ckknight: White sheep. |
| 01:03.15 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:03.17 | Xuerian | Well |
| 01:03.20 | ckknight | don't get the reference |
| 01:03.20 | Xuerian | I'd call you a black sheep |
| 01:03.26 | Xuerian | but macs are white, so yeah |
| 01:03.32 | ckknight | mine's gray |
| 01:03.34 | Xuerian | ... |
| 01:03.35 | ckknight | MacBook Pro |
| 01:03.49 | Xuerian | Fine. Gray sheep o.0 |
| 01:03.50 | Strigoi|LR | ckknight how's Parrot doing? ;p been raiding for whole evening here couldn't check what did you change since yesterday :) Basicly the question did you implement heals\power gains filtering yet? (Playing shadow priest so it's kinda important for me) |
| 01:04.08 | ckknight | yes, I did |
| 01:04.09 | Xuerian | Doesn't have that ring to it, though. |
| 01:04.12 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 01:04.14 | ckknight | not the filtering |
| 01:04.15 | ckknight | not yet |
| 01:04.17 | ckknight | that's later |
| 01:04.20 | ckknight | Triggers is next. |
| 01:04.26 | Strigoi|LR | oh I see |
| 01:04.38 | dodgizzla | Hey wait.. If I can basically bribe ckknight.. Will he resurrect Sprocket? *puppet eyes* |
| 01:04.45 | ckknight | dude, I tried |
| 01:04.47 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 01:04.53 | ckknight | codename CheeseWheel |
| 01:04.53 | Xuerian | Where was I when that happened? |
| 01:05.03 | ckknight | the secure stuff was ungodly bitchy |
| 01:05.05 | dodgizzla | Ahaha CheeseWheel.. I'd so use that :D |
| 01:05.09 | ckknight | I yelled at Iriel because of it |
| 01:05.16 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Even with that SecurePieCrap? |
| 01:05.22 | ckknight | that was what I was dealing with |
| 01:05.24 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Go yell at iriel more |
| 01:05.30 | ckknight | I ended up dancing securely |
| 01:05.33 | ckknight | but not much else |
| 01:05.53 | Knaledge | woot |
| 01:06.01 | Xuerian | Didn't ... chipmunk? End up with a function PoC pie menu thing with multiple depths? |
| 01:06.06 | Knaledge | after Ludwig and SellFish I'm down to 15.3MB UI mem usage |
| 01:06.13 | dodgizzla | Hm, I still don't get why it's so hard. I know some stuff won't be possible anymore, but still "static" stuff would work, no? |
| 01:06.28 | Knaledge | and thats with cart, atlas, atlasloot, fubar, etc. etc. etc. |
| 01:06.41 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Out of combat, somewhat |
| 01:07.24 | dodgizzla | I mean why can't I change the position and visibility of a button that casts Prayer of Fortitude in combat? |
| 01:07.35 | dodgizzla | Even more so, if I configure it out of combat |
| 01:07.46 | Kemayo | ckknight: Did you add merging of events into Parrot yet? |
| 01:07.46 | Jaxon | Knaledge: Cartographer and Atlas/AtlasLoot? Those both do the same thing |
| 01:07.52 | ckknight | Kemayo: no |
| 01:07.59 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: If that's all you want to do, get a bar addon |
| 01:08.03 | ckknight | Kemayo: that's after Triggers, as I just told Strigoi|LR :-P |
| 01:08.13 | Knaledge | no they don't Jaxon, at least not to my liking |
| 01:08.16 | Xuerian | Jaxon: They do the same thing, but I like atlas and atlasloot better for instances and instanceloot |
| 01:08.22 | Knaledge | Exactly |
| 01:08.27 | Kemayo | Oh, sorry. |
| 01:08.29 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: The point is before BC I had a Sprocket menu for all my buffs, which was perfect and could also be perfectly combined with Clique |
| 01:08.36 | Knaledge | Cart has a little bit to go until it beats out Atlas/AtlasLoot |
| 01:08.37 | Jaxon | Cartographer has Instance/Instanceloot? |
| 01:08.40 | Xuerian | I like cart better for maps and by george if it could do what yatlas does I'd suck someone off |
| 01:08.44 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Now I have a fading bar with BT3 which is annoying the hell out of me |
| 01:08.48 | Knaledge | and now with Daveish going Ace/modular, it's a tough competitor |
| 01:09.06 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: I know, I had a sprocket for all the extra stuff I now have to keep two actionbars out for |
| 01:09.28 | Kemayo | Xuerian: Yatlas, at least last time I tried it back pre-TBC, let you scroll through the entire world minimap textures. |
| 01:09.38 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Yeah as I said.. nothing I used Sprocket for could cause taint AFAIK |
| 01:09.44 | Xuerian | Kemayo: It still works, if you checkout from ender's svn |
| 01:09.50 | dodgizzla | So I don't see why it's not possible to hack it together :D |
| 01:09.52 | Knaledge | Tuller I have an issue |
| 01:09.56 | Xuerian | Kemayo: It doesn't have the be areas or the draeni, but it does have outland |
| 01:10.00 | Tuller | Knaledge: ? |
| 01:10.11 | Knaledge | I opened Ludwig and scrolled with my mouse wheel |
| 01:10.16 | Knaledge | and it wiped out all 7853 items |
| 01:10.18 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Theoretically I suppose you could bring it up to out of combat snuff without making it secure |
| 01:10.27 | dodgizzla | I tried to give it a shot when BC was released.. but I was going insane trying to figure out that SecureHeader stuff. And then real life kicked in and yeah.. time's rare nowadays |
| 01:10.27 | ckknight | a woman in my house took a stroke today |
| 01:10.34 | Xuerian | ckknight: O_o |
| 01:10.47 | Kemayo | Xuerian: So presumably it's just a matter of going to those areas and checking which textures appear in the minimap. |
| 01:10.59 | Tuller | Knaledge: err, that's interesting |
| 01:11.04 | Xuerian | Kemayo: Yes, I have no idea how though since he re-wrote the miner in C |
| 01:11.07 | Knaledge | whoa ok... now I scrolled my mouse wheel again and they all appeared again |
| 01:11.12 | Xuerian | Kemayo: But it could still do with a re-write for performance |
| 01:11.42 | Tuller | Knaledge: possibly some issues with mousewheel + the side filters |
| 01:11.49 | Knaledge | ah ok here it is |
| 01:11.56 | Knaledge | @Tuller: type /ludwig options |
| 01:12.04 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Do you know if Geist works in combat? |
| 01:12.05 | Knaledge | then scroll with the mouse wheel |
| 01:12.11 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: I have no idea what geist is |
| 01:12.21 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4766-Geist.html |
| 01:12.28 | dodgizzla | I'll try it now.. |
| 01:12.34 | Knaledge | it doesn't update the Ludwig frame until the user interacts with it, when searching via command line |
| 01:12.47 | Xuerian | Kemayo: Ender was doing a re-write that upped zoomed-out performance massively and had a bunch of cool updates, but I can't find it anywhere in his svn. It had to be partly done because there were screenshots of it |
| 01:12.54 | Knaledge | also, no way to "reset" the ludwig frame if a search is completed via command line |
| 01:12.55 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r43676 10CrushChance/: |
| 01:12.55 | CIA-22 | CrushChance: |
| 01:12.55 | CIA-22 | Initial import. |
| 01:13.09 | Tuller | Knaledge: /lw -refresh |
| 01:13.17 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r43677 10CrushChance/ (CrushChance.toc libs/ main.lua): |
| 01:13.17 | CIA-22 | CrushChance: |
| 01:13.17 | CIA-22 | Initial import. |
| 01:13.19 | Tuller | err that's not what you were asking :) |
| 01:13.35 | Tuller | yes there is no reset via commandline for the main frame |
| 01:13.37 | Knaledge | well it's nice to know the command to refresh ;p |
| 01:13.46 | Knaledge | but yeah would benice to have an icon |
| 01:13.48 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: It says for 2.0, I assume it's possible to use in combat. It isn't like sproket where there's so much configurability and variability, not to mention it'snot circular |
| 01:14.04 | Knaledge | howeverm if you implement that search field reset button like we were talking about earlier that might alleviate it workaroundish |
| 01:14.28 | Knaledge | not to mention provide cool functionality for those that won't use command line (like me.. I just accidnetally used it thinking there were options for ludwig) |
| 01:15.04 | Xuerian | Kemayo: Along those lines, his svn is here and working, despite the dead web page for it: http://endif.cjb.net/svn/wowui/ |
| 01:15.47 | Knaledge | @ Tuller: although I guess hitting the "Filter" key, then hitting reset/refresh works also |
| 01:16.04 | Knaledge | just a bit buried underneath "Filter" but still there nonetheless :) |
| 01:16.39 | Knaledge | I think the only other issue I have with it atm is how the tooltips are displaying over the ludwig frame instead of to the right |
| 01:16.46 | Thorgard | wtf.. http://www.thelocal.se/7869/20070712/ |
| 01:17.17 | Thorgard | Time to move back to Sweden.. |
| 01:17.27 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r43678 10CrushChance/ (CrushChance.toc libs/): |
| 01:17.27 | CIA-22 | CrushChance: |
| 01:17.27 | CIA-22 | Added Externals |
| 01:17.32 | Knaledge | or rather, dynamic based on cursor position and frame position. IF the frame is anchored to the left of the screen, the tooltips are still opening to the left and off the screen for some. would be awesome to getan option to open either at cursor or to the right/left of the frame based on frame position |
| 01:17.57 | Knaledge | and right/left of cursor |
| 01:18.44 | ckknight | ooh, someone wants to have a business proposition with me |
| 01:18.46 | ckknight | win. |
| 01:19.39 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 01:19.54 | Tuller | either way, I'm rewriting the search window :) |
| 01:20.11 | ckknight | someone wants to bundle Cartographer into their game guide |
| 01:20.21 | Xuerian | Nifty. |
| 01:20.29 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: Okay it does work in combat, but I think it simply "clones" action buttons :\ |
| 01:20.30 | ckknight | and I'll get 5% of the profits |
| 01:20.35 | ckknight | which is fine by me |
| 01:20.40 | sbu | oh |
| 01:20.43 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: =X |
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| 01:20.48 | sbu | mh "game guide"? |
| 01:20.54 | NeoTron | Thorgard: planning to move into her basement or something? :P |
| 01:20.54 | Knaledge | @ tuller: that means the ludwig frame itself might see some improvements? ;) ;) |
| 01:21.01 | ckknight | sbu: howto guide to get 1-70 |
| 01:21.05 | sbu | ah |
| 01:21.08 | ckknight | but with notes for every quest |
| 01:21.10 | ckknight | in Cartographer |
| 01:21.11 | ckknight | for you |
| 01:21.16 | ckknight | frankly, it's a damn good idea |
| 01:21.23 | sbu | mhhhm |
| 01:21.25 | Xuerian | Indeed |
| 01:21.28 | sbu | but you have to buy it!? |
| 01:21.29 | Kalman| | ckknight: If it isn't Kopp or Joana, don't bother. |
| 01:21.36 | ckknight | it's not |
| 01:21.37 | sbu | and get cartographer + notes shipped? |
| 01:21.42 | ckknight | Kalman|: I don't have to do any extra work. |
| 01:21.47 | ckknight | so: why the hell not? ;-) |
| 01:21.48 | dodgizzla | Anyway.. I've got a question regarding Tablet.. IIRC there is no way to position a tablet, or is there? |
| 01:21.51 | Kalman| | ckknight: Yeah, but those guys do the good ones. |
| 01:22.04 | Xuerian | So long as they don't get any rights but distribution over cart o_0 |
| 01:22.15 | ckknight | Xuerian: lol, Cart's GPL |
| 01:22.16 | dodgizzla | I'd like to write a plugin to voyeur that uses ItemBonusLib for a summary of my inspect target |
| 01:22.19 | ckknight | ever heard of ROI? |
| 01:22.23 | ckknight | Kalman|? |
| 01:22.30 | ckknight | return on investment |
| 01:22.37 | Kalman| | Oh, I thought you meant that was the person. |
| 01:22.42 | Xuerian | ckknight: Sure, but if you want to get any further into rights what about those who have contributed to cart? ;) |
| 01:22.47 | ckknight | this has a moderate return for a negligible investment |
| 01:23.16 | Knaledge | they want to use your stuff on a website? |
| 01:23.19 | Knaledge | or sell the addon |
| 01:23.24 | Kalman| | Oh, nvm, missed the "I get 5% of the profits" line. |
| 01:23.28 | Kalman| | go for it, man. :) |
| 01:23.29 | ckknight | Xuerian: I coded roughly 95% of the main Cartographer parts, at least the core + notes |
| 01:23.51 | sbu | i think they want to sell the guide and ship cart + quest notes and stuff with it |
| 01:23.53 | Kalman| | Knaledge: They want to include Cartographer + a custom noteset designed around a specific questing path through the game. |
| 01:23.55 | Xuerian | ckknight: Thus the pleasure in mildly harassing oyu about it :p |
| 01:24.12 | Kalman| | Said questing path backed up by a seperate PDF document which is also part of the package you buy. |
| 01:24.15 | Knaledge | you mean... Blizzard? |
| 01:24.27 | Kalman| | Nah. Random people. |
| 01:24.41 | Knaledge | oh oh.. leveling guide, etc. |
| 01:24.51 | Knaledge | the leveling guide goes on sale, they include cart + notes, etc. |
| 01:24.53 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 01:24.57 | sbu | they want to sell your gold!! :/ |
| 01:25.02 | Hjalte | ckknight, i hope you get a free copy and makes a review :) |
| 01:25.28 | KarlThePagan | Kil'Jaeden is down... DRAGONMAW TIME |
| 01:25.38 | Knaledge | I'd do it and they can't technically" own" cart after that anyhow |
| 01:25.52 | Xuerian | Knaledge: You're like argent dawn and blackrock |
| 01:25.55 | Knaledge | you have 1) first use, 2) open source/lua 3) credit |
| 01:26.14 | KarlThePagan | Knaledge, oh yes pls do lol |
| 01:26.18 | Xuerian | er |
| 01:26.21 | KarlThePagan | GPL WTF |
| 01:26.22 | Xuerian | missping |
| 01:26.23 | KarlThePagan | FTW |
| 01:26.24 | Xuerian | KarlThePagan: :p |
| 01:26.38 | Knaledge | @Xuerian what do you mean? heh |
| 01:27.09 | Xuerian | I was talking about KarlThePagan |
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| 01:27.27 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 01:28.31 | Knaledge | AH! Ck I know what I was going to ask you |
| 01:29.03 | Knaledge | I have Atlas installed and wanted to have Atlas show up when in an instance and pressing the map key instead of cartographer |
| 01:29.04 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 01:29.12 | NeoTron | "Camels can live up to the age of 40 and are, according to Erlingsson, somewhat philosphical beasts. They are also friendly and smell quite nice." |
| 01:29.33 | Knaledge | would you mind adding an option to display atlas rather than cartographer in an instance if atlas is detected in the stack? |
| 01:29.54 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r43679 10CrushChance/CrushChance.toc: |
| 01:29.54 | CIA-22 | CrushChance: |
| 01:29.54 | CIA-22 | Updated forum link. |
| 01:31.29 | sbu | goodnite |
| 01:32.45 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=464.0 - old ? |
| 01:33.41 | dodgizzla | Bibi: I didn't know them |
| 01:34.07 | dodgizzla | the Mac client can now capture in-game video to QuickTime movie files |
| 01:34.09 | dodgizzla | wtf.. |
| 01:34.23 | NeoTron | Bibi: oh now I have to read that before I go home |
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| 01:35.21 | dodgizzla | Nice, Priests get the shaft again. |
| 01:35.25 | dodgizzla | Time to level my Shaman |
| 01:35.37 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.48 | NeoTron | wow. is that the fix for the eternal druid cat form attack range problem? |
| 01:36.15 | kenlyric | are those fake? |
| 01:36.29 | dodgizzla | Uuuuh |
| 01:36.36 | Knaledge | I hope not because the latest Altivec builds are awesomemmmmmmeeeee |
| 01:36.41 | dodgizzla | Nice they are adding the AQ20 enchants to vendors |
| 01:36.57 | Knaledge | we use them at work on Tiger and Madden for Mac |
| 01:37.32 | Knaledge | FPS on Mac using integrated intel + SSE just went up this week by about 20% |
| 01:38.47 | kenlyric | they are in blue... are they from a forum post? verification? |
| 01:39.11 | NeoTron | whoha - doubled the duration of all paladin blessings? (well 5/15m ones) |
| 01:39.15 | Xerophyte | Nice Blessing changes, if those are true. Far cry from the old days of 40-mans |
| 01:39.25 | kenlyric | Bibi: verification? |
| 01:39.35 | Bibi | wait |
| 01:39.37 | Bibi | redoing the layout first |
| 01:39.45 | Bibi | but officials, PTR forums by hortus |
| 01:39.46 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 01:39.52 | Bibi | see, ask NeoTron |
| 01:39.57 | stavmar | is violation not working at the moment |
| 01:42.37 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.56 | NeoTron | lots of "no longer possible to do 2 targets" changes |
| 01:44.07 | NeoTron | I wonder how you were able to, say, sap or earthshield two targets at the same time |
| 01:44.31 | Xerophyte | "Devastate: The duration remaining graphic will now display properly for Sunder Armor after it has been refreshed on a target by Devastate." - Aha, so that's actually not a Quartz bug? Reassuring to know that Blizz are still clods :) |
| 01:47.03 | NeoTron | haha |
| 01:47.05 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.25 | NeoTron | so I saw this video with a shockadin that used it a lot and I thought "they will nerf that RSN" |
| 01:51.12 | Xerophyte | They're nerfing redridge. I really didn't see that one coming. |
| 01:51.30 | NeoTron | " Void Reaver: The Arcane Orb ability used by this creature will now correctly Daze players affected by Aspect of the Pack or Aspect of the Cheetah." <-- aha! so you can use aspect of the pack to ezmode it |
| 01:51.34 | NeoTron | heh |
| 01:54.58 | kenlyric | whoever I was talking to earlier about sound issues in wow, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505932&sid=1 |
| 01:55.12 | kenlyric | redridge mountains? |
| 01:55.16 | kenlyric | they're not so tough. |
| 01:56.16 | Xerophyte | The devs apparently disagree with your assessment |
| 01:57.19 | kenlyric | woot, timbermaw hold! |
| 01:57.28 | Xerophyte | Heck, before long they'll even make Helcular's Revenge survivable again |
| 01:57.39 | kenlyric | they didn't say if they were adjusting it up or down. |
| 01:58.30 | Xerophyte | They're moving Yowler down 5 levels, would be odd if they did the opposite to all the mobs around him |
| 02:00.31 | kenlyric | that's true. |
| 02:00.42 | kenlyric | I don't even remember yowler. |
| 02:00.47 | Kemayo | Woot, my addition to PT3 actually works! |
| 02:01.14 | kenlyric | does anyone know if there has ever been a major patch that didn't introduce new content before? |
| 02:01.54 | kenlyric | what cute name are they going to give this one? |
| 02:05.35 | Xerophyte | ... because Void Reaver is obviously the boss in BC that needs an easy mode? :) |
| 02:05.53 | Hjalte | Did anyone ever do more about that Mode7 demo that was released like a month or two ago? |
| 02:05.58 | Xerophyte | Hrm. I'm responding to ancient chat, never mind me |
| 02:11.43 | Thorgard | Hjalte, wut? |
| 02:12.20 | Hjalte | Someone released a mode7 demo some time ago, where you could see that this could become something of a mario kart for wow. |
| 02:12.26 | Xerophyte | Thorgard: Probably http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw (DungeonCrawler) and I think Cryect got busy with Recount |
| 02:12.43 | kaiden^ | ParserLib Error - ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:582: ' for' initial value must be a number |
| 02:18.10 | kaiden^ | this stupid error is popping up like every second :/ |
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| 02:25.48 | ckknight | hrm, what still uses ParserLib? |
| 02:26.20 | Arrowmaster | sct? |
| 02:26.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:26.31 | ckknight | but I'm working on replacing that |
| 02:26.41 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:27.03 | Benumbed | ckknight, parrot fails at scalding water |
| 02:27.09 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:27.12 | ckknight | howso? |
| 02:27.18 | Benumbed | keeps telling me (false) - 500 |
| 02:27.26 | Benumbed | instead of (scalding water) -500 |
| 02:28.11 | Arrowmaster | scalding water doesnt have a source |
| 02:30.26 | Benumbed | yeah not that big of a deal, just messing with him |
| 02:32.11 | kenlyric | do not meddle in the affairs of coders, for they are quick to anger |
| 02:32.14 | kenlyric | (but not subtle) |
| 02:34.05 | Benumbed | just funny seeing (false) |
| 02:34.08 | ckknight | Benumbed: damn. It actually is a big deal |
| 02:34.10 | ckknight | and is thusly lame. |
| 02:34.16 | ckknight | who does it to you? |
| 02:34.18 | ckknight | an enemy? |
| 02:34.22 | Benumbed | water |
| 02:34.28 | ckknight | item? |
| 02:34.30 | Benumbed | ssc water |
| 02:34.32 | Wobin_ | Show Ck on the night where the bad elemental touched you |
| 02:34.36 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.43 | ckknight | no idea what that is, Benumbed |
| 02:34.47 | Wobin_ | s/night/doll/ |
| 02:34.56 | Benumbed | serpentshrine cavern |
| 02:35.14 | Benumbed | when you boil the water, the fish go away but the water does scalding dmg to you |
| 02:35.19 | Benumbed | so it really has no source |
| 02:35.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:35.25 | Benumbed | just when get in water, it hits you |
| 02:35.44 | ckknight | would (Unknown) - 500 suit you? |
| 02:35.53 | Benumbed | sure |
| 02:35.56 | Benumbed | doesnt bother me |
| 02:36.04 | Benumbed | just was point it out and messing with you |
| 02:36.38 | Benumbed | pointing* |
| 02:36.44 | Saroz | 30 MINUTE BLESSINGS |
| 02:36.45 | Saroz | wuuut |
| 02:36.47 | Saroz | *dies* |
| 02:36.54 | Benumbed | 10 min crappy ones |
| 02:37.02 | Saroz | ftw! |
| 02:37.03 | Benumbed | but look at the paladin nerfs that come with it =x |
| 02:37.08 | Benumbed | so dumb |
| 02:37.10 | Saroz | which is? |
| 02:37.20 | Benumbed | sacrifice 1min cd |
| 02:37.25 | Saroz | lol |
| 02:37.26 | Saroz | so? |
| 02:37.26 | Benumbed | umm a few others |
| 02:37.31 | Benumbed | arena nerf |
| 02:37.35 | Saroz | fuck arenas |
| 02:37.46 | Benumbed | well still a nerf =P |
| 02:37.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43680 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - make tags which evaluate to nil or false show as Unknown |
| 02:38.10 | ckknight | Saroz: link me! |
| 02:38.13 | ckknight | <--- pally |
| 02:38.47 | Saroz | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 02:38.50 | Saroz | omg pally <3 |
| 02:39.06 | Hjalte | Saroz and ckknight, it's a shame that is the only paladin chance worth mentioning ;) |
| 02:39.30 | ckknight | chance? |
| 02:39.38 | Xuerian | Change |
| 02:39.45 | Hjalte | change |
| 02:39.48 | Hjalte | bah |
| 02:40.04 | ckknight | pimp: Mac Movie Capture: the Mac client can now capture in-game video to QuickTime movie files using a configurable choice of codec (H.264, Motion JPEG, or Pixlet), resolution, and frame rate. Two new entries have been added to the Key Bindings dialog for start/stop recording and for cancellation of a recording. For more detailed configuration options please see the Mac Options panel in game. Mac OS X 10.4.9 and QuickTime 7.1.6 or be |
| 02:40.11 | ckknight | FRAPS ingame |
| 02:40.34 | abyssichate | give that to PC as well :| |
| 02:40.36 | Hjalte | Why can't windows do that :( |
| 02:40.58 | ckknight | because Win has FRAPS |
| 02:41.25 | Hjalte | Well, Fraps is a program that i can't really bother installing just to make a petty little movie :) |
| 02:41.31 | Saroz | who cares, 30 minnute blessing ftw |
| 02:41.41 | Wobin_ | linx? |
| 02:41.56 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 02:42.00 | Wobin_ | mmoc |
| 02:42.11 | Benumbed | havent looked, violation bug fixed yet? |
| 02:42.18 | Wobin_ | wah |
| 02:42.21 | Wobin_ | 10 second CC?! |
| 02:42.35 | Wobin_ | oh pvp |
| 02:42.37 | Wobin_ | phew |
| 02:42.55 | ckknight | okay, I don't really see the huge nerf, Saroz |
| 02:42.59 | Wobin_ | # |
| 02:42.59 | Wobin_ | # Kill Command will not charge the hunter mana if their pet is on passive. |
| 02:43.01 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 02:43.07 | Saroz | indeed ckknight, care is low, arenas suck |
| 02:43.22 | Wobin_ | Stupid hunters shouldn't be using a KC macro if they're not using their pet =P |
| 02:43.30 | Xuerian | ckknight: Damnit why does mac get all the cool stuff |
| 02:43.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: cause macs rock |
| 02:43.48 | ckknight | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/apple |
| 02:43.52 | Xuerian | Blade of Unquenched Thirst o_0 |
| 02:43.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: it may be macroed in with other abilities? |
| 02:43.57 | Xuerian | NightHawkAtWork: That's a LIEH |
| 02:44.01 | Xuerian | LIE DAMMIT |
| 02:44.08 | Wobin_ | NightHawkTheSane: feh, lrn2play =P |
| 02:44.09 | ckknight | ooh Additional graphic optimization utilizing AltiVec for PowerPC-Mac and SSE for Intel-Mac. This provides some performance benefit on systems where vertex animation shaders are either unavailable or disabled (recommended on systems with Intel integrated video). |
| 02:44.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: not arguing, simply pointing out reasons :) |
| 02:44.59 | Wobin_ | oh I know, but it seems a 'fix' for a social (read macro) problem that shouldn't really be a problem at all |
| 02:45.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: where are you reading these? linkerate? |
| 02:45.12 | ckknight | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 02:45.25 | Wobin_ | KC should consume mana when hit purely because it's a mana consuming skill |
| 02:45.34 | Wobin_ | Whether the pet is in a position to use it or not shouldn't matter |
| 02:45.46 | ckknight | oh man |
| 02:45.52 | ckknight | srsly, if the videos become super-easy |
| 02:45.53 | Wobin_ | If a mage casts Arcane Explosion if noone is around, it still consumes mana =P |
| 02:46.00 | ckknight | I have no issue making vids of my mods in action |
| 02:46.23 | Bibi | mac users with super easy video available can be nice yeah |
| 02:46.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: it's more along the lines of AE consuming mana even when silenced :P |
| 02:46.33 | Wobin_ | Not really |
| 02:46.45 | Xerophyte | There's no consistency, though. If the same mage casts frost bolt when no one is around, that doesn't cost mana |
| 02:47.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: or, perhaps more appropriately, casting FB at an out-of-range target consumes no mana. |
| 02:47.35 | Wobin_ | But the thing is, the fact that the pet is on passive is not the issue |
| 02:47.38 | NightHawkTheSane | similarly, a pet in passive mode simply isn't attacking anything,and is probably out of range to everything, so an instant attack would error out |
| 02:47.47 | Wobin_ | But you shouldn't be casting it! |
| 02:47.50 | Wobin_ | That's the point |
| 02:47.55 | Saroz | ckknight, 70 paladin? |
| 02:48.02 | ckknight | 39 ;-) |
| 02:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: yes, agreed, but it doesn't matter! |
| 02:48.09 | Saroz | thought so :) |
| 02:48.09 | Benumbed | failure |
| 02:48.10 | Xerophyte | Wobin: Of course, hence it should give an error and not cast, same as for everyone else :) |
| 02:48.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 02:48.22 | Wobin_ | If you're out of range on fb, and it's obviousl you're out of range, you're not going to cast it |
| 02:48.38 | Wobin_ | Xerophyte: nope |
| 02:49.17 | Wobin_ | The skill allows the pet to do an instant attack that causes damage. If the pet is out of range for the attack, ie still travelling to the mob, it'll still consume mana but have no effect |
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| 02:49.47 | Wobin_ | This is more a fix so people can have KC spamming macros with no repercussion =P |
| 02:50.01 | Wobin_ | thus the coded solution to a social problem =P |
| 02:50.10 | Wobin_ | which is what I'm complaining about |
| 02:50.38 | Benumbed | no different than mage spamming fireblast while running at someone =x |
| 02:51.08 | Wobin_ | nope, the pet isn't even part of the equation |
| 02:51.33 | Wobin_ | There's no real analogy in other classes |
| 02:51.36 | Xerophyte | An interpretation as valid as any, sure. Me, I think it costing mana when out of range is inconsistent with the way every other melee ability in the game is implemented - I certainly don't pay rage for maniacally spamming sunder when chasing loose mobs, for one - and as such this is just an obvious bugfix but, obviously, mileage varies :p |
| 02:51.37 | Benumbed | i see what you are saying, but doesnt bother me that much |
| 02:52.11 | Wobin_ | Sunder procs on swing, yes? |
| 02:52.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: i see your point, but yeah, I agree with Xerophyte |
| 02:52.18 | NightHawkTheSane | sunder is an instant attack |
| 02:52.22 | Xerophyte | No, melee range instant spell |
| 02:52.26 | Benumbed | give misdirect to another class and can delete hunter imo |
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| 02:53.12 | Wobin_ | anyway, I'm not denying your point, merely the method of 'fixing' it |
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| 02:53.25 | Wobin_ | hunters should learn to play =P |
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| 02:53.51 | Wobin_ | if they can't spend the effort to call on KC when it procs and their pet is obviously in combat, then they should respec MM |
| 02:53.55 | Benumbed | they are probably the most worthless class in game atm, other than few things they get |
| 02:54.14 | NightHawkTheSane | weird changes to Aspect of the viper. |
| 02:54.16 | Wobin_ | Benumbed: Deleteing them isn't the solution then =P |
| 02:54.21 | Wobin_ | Making them work, would be |
| 02:54.26 | Benumbed | yeah |
| 02:54.46 | Wobin_ | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, frontloaded manaregen |
| 02:54.51 | Benumbed | they are doing nothing but nerfing here lately so dont see how much worse they can make hunters |
| 02:55.09 | Benumbed | short of deleting the class anyways |
| 02:55.32 | Thrae | "Hibernate and Entangling Roots duration against PvP targets has been reduced to 10 seconds." |
| 02:55.37 | Wobin_ | oh man |
| 02:55.43 | Wobin_ | Blind duration reduced to 8 seconds, cooldown reduced to 1 minute, Blinding Powder is no longer required to use. |
| 02:55.46 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 02:55.51 | Benumbed | yea |
| 02:55.51 | Wobin_ | What will I pickpocket now?! |
| 02:55.56 | Benumbed | lol |
| 02:55.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Looks like they reduced duration on most pvp CCs |
| 02:56.07 | Wobin_ | That appears to be a flat reduciton |
| 02:56.10 | Wobin_ | over pve too |
| 02:56.12 | Benumbed | all 12 sec cc was reduced to 10 |
| 02:56.29 | Benumbed | not much, and was lucky to have it last 12 to start with |
| 02:56.38 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, +heal effects lightwell now.. |
| 02:56.40 | Wobin_ | Sword Specialization: This talent’s free extra attacks can no longer trigger additional extra attacks. |
| 02:56.41 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 02:56.59 | Wobin_ | Just like surge =) |
| 02:57.54 | Benumbed | give me back my no cd windfury imo |
| 02:58.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: hmm, yeah, blind reduction seems to be pvp and pve both. But with a 1m CD it's much easier to use, too |
| 02:58.20 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 02:58.48 | Benumbed | lol rogue in guild using blind on mobs in ssc to get rid of it |
| 02:59.08 | Wobin_ | *Adamantite Bound Chest: These chests will no longer contain Adamantite Bars. |
| 02:59.12 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 02:59.12 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r43681 10Doodle/ (Doodle-koKR.lua Doodle.toc): |
| 02:59.12 | CIA-22 | Doodle: |
| 02:59.12 | CIA-22 | - Add locale koKR (by omosiro) |
| 02:59.28 | Wobin_ | yeah, I'm not sure about that earthbind change |
| 02:59.41 | Benumbed | i dont like it, but biased as play shaman |
| 02:59.43 | Wobin_ | it was one way for shamans to survive against stealth =P |
| 02:59.58 | Wobin_ | I guess firenova would still work |
| 03:00.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Firenova sucks. |
| 03:00.09 | Thelyna | oh wtf, BoSac cd to 1 minute? |
| 03:00.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Costs stupid huge ammounts of mana, and only is one blast |
| 03:00.12 | Thelyna | not cool |
| 03:00.14 | Benumbed | noticed good rogues get past firenova |
| 03:00.40 | Benumbed | and magma totem fails half the time on good rogues also |
| 03:00.52 | Wobin_ | you could probably CoS out of it if you timed it right? |
| 03:01.10 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldn't clos break stealth? |
| 03:01.16 | Wobin_ | before you stealth |
| 03:01.22 | Benumbed | could shadowstep also |
| 03:01.29 | NightHawkTheSane | that'd be some pretty close timing, b ut yeah, you could |
| 03:01.36 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, people still spec into subtlety? :P |
| 03:01.56 | Benumbed | well i forgot the word terrible rogues |
| 03:02.00 | Benumbed | sorry lemme rephrase |
| 03:02.11 | Benumbed | could shadowstep if the horrible rogue shadowsteps |
| 03:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 03:02.49 | Wobin_ | # The pitchLimit console command has been re-enabled. |
| 03:02.52 | Wobin_ | BARREL ROLL! |
| 03:03.02 | Benumbed | probably fixed now tho |
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| 03:03.44 | NightHawkTheSane | "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish." |
| 03:03.52 | NightHawkTheSane | neat. |
| 03:04.10 | Xerophyte | Hrm. Does the Master Demonologist spell resistance buff stack with totem/aura? Guessing yes from what I remember of ancient days of Twimp attempts with 'lock tanks, unsure though. |
| 03:04.21 | Thrae | "Greater Blessing of Kings, Light, Might, Salvation, Sanctuary and Wisdom increased to 30 minutes. |
| 03:04.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Xerophyte: i'd say yes. |
| 03:04.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think that any +sr from Demon Armor/SKin/whatever stacks, though |
| 03:05.17 | Wobin_ | although... |
| 03:05.25 | Wobin_ | I can only wish for the bear mount =) |
| 03:05.58 | Thrae | Wobin_: No way in hell you're mounting ME! :D |
| 03:06.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I should play more.. I havn't logged on in weeks. >< |
| 03:06.07 | Xerophyte | Pretty sure Demon Armour, MotW and priest buff/aura are noncompatible, yep |
| 03:06.13 | NightHawkTheSane | s/n't/en't/ |
| 03:06.20 | Wobin_ | The spectral tiger mount looks cool |
| 03:06.32 | Wobin_ | Thrae: rawr =P |
| 03:07.13 | Gagorian | Demon armor does stack imo |
| 03:07.24 | Gagorian | At least I recall from tanking twin emps |
| 03:09.56 | Xerophyte | Oho? My bad then. Moot in this particular case regardless, Leotheras doesn't do the shadow thing |
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| 03:17.24 | Arrowmaster | gona have to ebay a spectral tiger mount |
| 03:18.02 | Kemayo | They did look pretty sweet. |
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| 03:20.16 | Thrae | I think the Resilience vs DoT change makes sense. |
| 03:25.30 | abyssichate | It doesn't |
| 03:25.51 | abyssichate | in my opinion, that is |
| 03:25.59 | Chompers | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Depends on the math behind it. |
| 03:26.03 | Chompers | well that sucks |
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| 03:26.33 | hypetech | are the notes for the next patch available anywhere? everybody keeps talking like they know about it, but I can't find the patch notes |
| 03:26.48 | NightHawkTheSane | There was an implicit problem in that DoT's couldn't crit, so resilience was necessarily useless against them, where it was useful against every other damage source. So having resilience effect dot damage in some manner is fair. |
| 03:26.52 | abyssichate | http://www.curse-gaming.com/devtracker/1/en/details/24897/ |
| 03:26.54 | Wobin_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 03:27.02 | Wobin_ | hypetech: ^ |
| 03:27.14 | abyssichate | There are orcs falling from the sky in Durotar on my server, composing some China link |
| 03:27.15 | Bibi | yes, visit mmo-champion hypetech |
| 03:27.18 | Bibi | it's your destiny to go here. |
| 03:27.18 | abyssichate | it's very theatrical |
| 03:27.26 | Wobin_ | abyssichate: hehe |
| 03:28.14 | abyssichate | I wonder how they do that |
| 03:28.29 | Wobin_ | teleporthax |
| 03:28.33 | NightHawkTheSane | elves. faeries. magic. |
| 03:28.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ... Fuck off. |
| 03:28.39 | Wobin_ | apparantly it's very easy to do them |
| 03:28.41 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 03:28.45 | Wobin_ | but they're highly detectable |
| 03:29.34 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: im getting some extreamly high dps numbers in DrDamage for shadowbolt while spellhaste is up |
| 03:29.40 | Arrowmaster | like 15000 dps |
| 03:31.00 | Arrowmaster | makes sense for when nightfall procs but not spellhaste |
| 03:32.12 | Arrowmaster | ohh i got it up to 17000dps |
| 03:35.23 | binder | hey anyone killed vashj? |
| 03:35.42 | Kemayo | Nihilum. |
| 03:35.46 | Kemayo | Next question? |
| 03:36.09 | binder | lol I meant in the channel |
| 03:36.19 | binder | we jut got her to 6% but I'm wondering |
| 03:36.36 | durcyn | binder: eh? |
| 03:36.37 | binder | if you have to kill the elementals in phase 3 |
| 03:36.43 | durcyn | you have to kill everything |
| 03:37.00 | binder | oh the elementals will screw her up if they touch her in phase 3 too? |
| 03:37.12 | durcyn | no, she just gets buffed and kicks your ass |
| 03:38.30 | abyssichate | there are no elementals in phase3? |
| 03:38.38 | CIA-22 | 03jayrox * r43682 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc): FuBar_VampwatchFu: Added bar texture to SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 03:38.53 | durcyn | i assume he has some left alive from 2. she does 5% more damange whenever one reaches her. ever. |
| 03:41.15 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: lol. |
| 03:41.15 | binder | yea |
| 03:41.26 | binder | we've gotten her to 40, 33, 22, 6 |
| 03:41.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43683 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 03:41.29 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - make the modifier colors more general (will add options soon). |
| 03:41.29 | CIA-22 | - make glancing and crushing all tag-based, e.g. "[Text] (glancing)", but you could do craziness like "~[Text]~" or for Crushing as SCT does, "^[Text]^". |
| 03:42.33 | Thrae | http://tinyurl.com/2mfxvk ("Not A Bug" sticky) vs http://tinyurl.com/ywbqlv (PTR 2.2 Notes) -- Cyclone removing Auras has been fixed, yet according to link #1, it wasn't a bug to begin with...*sigh* |
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| 03:43.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: lol, i wish i could be surprised by taht |
| 03:43.41 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Can't see any apparent flaw at least, will need to proc Quagmirran to check |
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| 03:44.15 | Sole | helloo |
| 03:45.02 | ckknight | hey Sole |
| 03:45.38 | Sole | how is everyone on this fine day? |
| 03:46.00 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: i know why |
| 03:46.18 | Arrowmaster | your using the returns for amount of spellhaste and checking the tooltip |
| 03:49.24 | Gagorian | Nah, I don't use tooltip cast time for anything |
| 03:50.14 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 03:51.41 | Gagorian | I do cast time/GetCombatRatingBonus(20) |
| 03:52.03 | Arrowmaster | and all cast times are set in data files? |
| 03:52.51 | Gagorian | yes |
| 03:53.45 | Arrowmaster | what about stuff like bloodlust? |
| 03:54.17 | Gagorian | You had bloodlust? |
| 03:54.40 | Gagorian | cast time divided by 1.3 |
| 03:55.22 | Arrowmaster | no i didnt |
| 03:55.41 | Arrowmaster | just wondering because i know theres other similar stuff like the rage of magtheridon debuff |
| 03:56.06 | Arrowmaster | fun debuff btw |
| 03:56.58 | Gagorian | :p |
| 03:57.08 | Gagorian | well it's probably not important enough to include :) |
| 03:57.22 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 03:57.45 | Arrowmaster | but 1.12 second shadowbolts are so fun (pre spellhaste nerf) |
| 03:59.27 | Gagorian | I see it now |
| 03:59.33 | Gagorian | gg :p |
| 03:59.52 | Gagorian | Blizzard must have changed that |
| 03:59.56 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 04:00.08 | Arrowmaster | return from GetCombatRatingBonus(20)? |
| 04:00.12 | Gagorian | Well it returns 15.219 now |
| 04:00.18 | Xerophyte | It returns 12 rather than 1.12? |
| 04:00.22 | Gagorian | I'm semi-sure it returned 1.15219 |
| 04:00.27 | Gagorian | (for quagmirran) |
| 04:00.44 | Gagorian | Xerophyte: Yes, seems so |
| 04:00.50 | Gagorian | Or then I was just tired when adding it :D |
| 04:01.42 | Xerophyte | I've only used it for dodge, def and so on, but it's worked the same way with them for the past month or so I think. |
| 04:03.10 | Xerophyte | I.e. my GetCombatRatingBonus(4) (parry) is 6.08somethingetc. Handy if you want to display stuff, less handy if you want to calculate anything useful |
| 04:03.44 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43684 10DrDamage/Caster.lua: |
| 04:03.44 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 04:03.44 | CIA-22 | - Fixed silly haste rating bonus to DPS |
| 04:05.14 | Funkeh` | everyone reading 2.2 notes? |
| 04:06.09 | Funkeh` | code: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1 general: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&postId=2924329950&sid=1 |
| 04:06.10 | NightHawkTheSane | NO! FEH WITH YOUR UPDATED NOTES AND CHANGES! FEH! |
| 04:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 04:06.14 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 04:06.22 | Xerophyte | Gagorian: Doesn't look like your using the value anywhere yet but you're doing the same thing in melee.lua. :) |
| 04:06.26 | Funkeh` | you sucked there |
| 04:06.27 | Xerophyte | 518: calculation.haste = GetCombatRatingBonus(18) |
| 04:06.36 | NightHawkTheSane | meh. |
| 04:06.36 | Xerophyte | then 541: if calculation.haste == 0 then calculation.haste = 1 end |
| 04:06.41 | Thrae | !t http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1 |
| 04:06.42 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/2ofb24 |
| 04:06.49 | Thrae | !t http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&postId=2924329950&sid=1 |
| 04:06.51 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/3y5nyp |
| 04:06.58 | Funkeh` | <3 |
| 04:07.08 | *** join/#wowace Daemoen (n=Daemoen@adsl-69-232-215-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 04:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, it kinda defeats the purpose to do that in general caht |
| 04:07.34 | Funkeh` | code: http://tinyurl.com/2ofb24 general: http://tinyurl.com/3y5nyp |
| 04:07.50 | Gagorian | Xerophyte: Yar, I don't use it since I get API calls for speed |
| 04:07.52 | Thrae | [General - Crossroads] WHERE IS MANKIRK'S WIFE? |
| 04:08.20 | Funkeh` | nymbia |
| 04:09.11 | Gagorian | Xerophyte: The melee module is still a bit sloppy cause I didn't know what I needed when I started :P |
| 04:10.27 | *** join/#wowace Kaydeethree (n=kd3@host-69-59-74-241.nctv.com) |
| 04:11.15 | *** join/#wowace Peoii (n=Peoii@pool-71-161-5-86.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:11.48 | Xerophyte | Gagorian: Yep, better to be redundant than insufficient. Err. I think :) |
| 04:12.41 | Thrae | I have decided to make an Orc Hunter called "Orckirk", with a pet named "Orckirk's Wife", or just "Wife". |
| 04:13.35 | Wobin_ | Thrae: is there a list of ThraeBot commands? |
| 04:13.46 | NightHawkTheSane | .!help |
| 04:13.48 | Wobin_ | !help |
| 04:13.48 | ThraeBot | Sorry Wobin_, you must wait 3 seconds before making another request. |
| 04:13.52 | NightHawkTheSane | send it in a msg. |
| 04:13.53 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 04:13.59 | Thrae | Wobin_: /msg ThraeBot help |
| 04:14.19 | Wobin_ | why all the waiting? |
| 04:14.40 | Thrae | ~emulate ckknight |
| 04:14.41 | purl | <@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
| 04:14.47 | Thrae | ^--- because of that |
| 04:14.48 | ckknight | you sure do love that, don't you? |
| 04:14.51 | Wobin_ | Has Thraebot put me into an increasingly extending loop? |
| 04:15.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: it didn't want to tell you.. but.. yes. |
| 04:15.12 | Wobin_ | sob |
| 04:15.18 | Thrae | !help |
| 04:15.18 | ThraeBot | Commands: !fc <see !c> -- Shows briefer stats (ala FoxBot); !c <eu/us> <server> <character> -- Shows player info from Armory; !l <eu/us> <server> <character> -- Last login via Armory; !g <eu/us> <server>, <guild> -- Armory guild info; !vs <eu/us> <server> <character> <eu/us> <server2> <character2> -- Compare the stats of two characters.; !a <function name> -- Displays brief WoW API function info (from WoWWiki.com); !t <url> -- Tinifi |
| 04:15.21 | Wobin_ | come back ThraeBot, all is forgiven |
| 04:15.28 | Thrae | Oops |
| 04:15.39 | Wobin_ | All I got was a series of Sorry Wobin_, you must wait 3 seconds before making another request. |
| 04:15.43 | Wobin_ | Sorry Wobin_, you must wait 43 seconds before making another request. |
| 04:15.46 | durcyn | !whyhaventyoubeenbanned yet |
| 04:15.48 | Wobin_ | Sorry Wobin_, you must wait 68 seconds before making another request. |
| 04:16.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: lol, that's awesome. owned by a bot. |
| 04:18.32 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r43685 10FuriousRaid/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:18.32 | CIA-22 | FuriousRaid: |
| 04:18.32 | CIA-22 | - updated externals |
| 04:18.32 | CIA-22 | - added cheesy icons |
| 04:18.32 | CIA-22 | - fixed bugs associated with chat/whispers |
| 04:18.33 | CIA-22 | - fixed bug where offline people on the waitlist would get points/credit |
| 04:18.35 | CIA-22 | - added "printing" to the attendance set |
| 04:19.46 | Thrae | !quit die |
| 04:20.26 | *** join/#wowace ThraeBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:20.39 | Thrae | Wobin_: OK, fixed |
| 04:21.55 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43686 10GridManaBars/GridManaBars.toc: |
| 04:21.55 | CIA-22 | GridManaBars : |
| 04:21.55 | CIA-22 | - change the optional dependencies |
| 04:22.15 | ckknight | !quit die |
| 04:22.22 | ckknight | ...aw |
| 04:22.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine it only accepts !quit commands from Thrae :) |
| 04:22.42 | ckknight | yea, figured there'd be permissions |
| 04:23.06 | NightHawkTheSane | If i had written it, i probably would have forgotten to do that. >.> |
| 04:23.13 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r43687 10FuriousTask/ (. FuriousTask.lua embeds.xml icon_off.tga icon_on.tga): |
| 04:23.13 | CIA-22 | FuriousTask: |
| 04:23.13 | CIA-22 | - updated externals |
| 04:23.13 | CIA-22 | - fixed a bug with assignment checking |
| 04:23.18 | Thrae | If it's ckknight, it tries to CTCP flood him about 10 minutes after he tries a command. |
| 04:23.25 | ckknight | nub |
| 04:23.32 | NightHawkTheSane | now, see, i would have done that too. |
| 04:23.38 | Thrae | Nah, I'm kidding ;) |
| 04:24.02 | Thrae | ckknight: I was using ~emulate ckknight quote to explain my own actions -- you should feel honoured ;) |
| 04:24.13 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43688 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a memory leak in the TPS calculations |
| 04:24.26 | Thrae | s:using:using a: |
| 04:25.01 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r43689 10FuriousWaitlist/ (6 files): |
| 04:25.01 | CIA-22 | FuriousWaitlist: |
| 04:25.01 | CIA-22 | - updated externals |
| 04:25.01 | CIA-22 | - guild roster now tracked |
| 04:33.27 | ckknight | Gagorian: DrDamage-1.2.0\Melee.lua:387: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'spd' (a nil value) |
| 04:34.27 | Benumbed | melee seems buggy, i get spam error'd on avg_wf |
| 04:34.51 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43690 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 04:34.51 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 04:34.51 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a few bugs (incorrect variables I found with luac GETGLOBAL) |
| 04:35.10 | Gagorian | Benumbed: Update |
| 04:35.15 | Benumbed | kk |
| 04:36.01 | ckknight | Gagorian: my bug happens on login |
| 04:36.19 | Gagorian | Is it the latest version? |
| 04:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ... is today thursday? I mean, for those in western us |
| 04:37.18 | kaiden^ | yes |
| 04:37.52 | Gagorian | ckknight: I think I fixed that yesterday, not sure but it was/is due to scanning items for speed before they are available |
| 04:37.58 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously? fuck me six ways from sunday, then. I would have sworn on a stack of freaking bibles all day long that it was wednesday |
| 04:38.04 | ckknight | Gagorian: I _just_ updated. |
| 04:38.17 | ckknight | so no, not fixed |
| 04:38.39 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: Thursday 6:30 PM here in HI |
| 04:38.49 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 04:39.04 | Gagorian | ckknight: Bah. Weird |
| 04:39.51 | Gagorian | What class btw? |
| 04:40.11 | Sole | hmm this is weird |
| 04:40.19 | Sole | I keep trying to download this attachment from gmail |
| 04:40.27 | Sole | but it cuts out at around 5-7 mb downloaded |
| 04:40.39 | ckknight | Gagorian: Hunter, lvl 3 |
| 04:42.03 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/zulaman_monsters.jpg |
| 04:42.07 | Bibi | anyone can confirm that none of them are in ZG ? |
| 04:42.12 | Bibi | I don't remember this instance at all :/ |
| 04:42.37 | Sole | confirmed |
| 04:42.47 | Bibi | thanks |
| 04:43.25 | Funkeh` | keep up the good work bibi |
| 04:43.34 | Bibi | yeah, who needs sleep anyway |
| 04:43.53 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 04:46.05 | NightHawkTheSane | pretty neat looking models |
| 04:46.37 | Bibi | sad that I can't copy my char on EU PTR yet |
| 04:46.43 | Bibi | don't know about the US one |
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| 04:47.54 | kergoth | any rogues around? whats the consensus on imp kidney shot? worthwhile for raiding and heroics, or not enough mobs stunnable? |
| 04:48.41 | Funkeh` | for anyone struggling, eu ptr patch http://mh.funkydude.co.uk/WoW-2.1.3.6898-to-0.2.0.6932-enGB-patch.zip (don't spread) :p |
| 04:49.01 | Arrowmaster | for a purely boss fights i doubt imp kidney shot is very useful |
| 04:49.19 | Arrowmaster | except for boss fights with adds |
| 04:49.47 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43691 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 04:49.47 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 04:49.47 | CIA-22 | - Register nearly all events after AceEvent_FullyInitialized to prevent an event from triggering update before inventory is scanned. Hopefully this will fix the nil weapon speed issue occuring for certain people. |
| 04:49.48 | Sole | imp kidney is a pvp talent |
| 04:50.20 | Gagorian | ckknight: I couldn't reproduce it but that might work :) |
| 04:50.59 | Bibi | Funkeh` : THANKS WILL POST IT IN HOMEPAGE |
| 04:51.02 | Bibi | and in official forums ! |
| 04:51.06 | Bibi | and on somethingawful. |
| 04:51.16 | Funkeh` | sure, ill jsut rename the file now... |
| 04:51.27 | Bibi | :( |
| 04:51.34 | *** part/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:51.35 | Bibi | actually the blizzard downloader is pretty fast |
| 04:51.56 | Bibi | but i might mirror all the patch, can't access the PTR anyway |
| 04:53.08 | pakoz2 | any highend 25man ENHANCEMENT shamans? |
| 04:53.54 | Benumbed | if you count ssc/eye, me but you proabably mean higher =P |
| 04:53.55 | Funkeh` | im seeding and mirroring it atm for a few people |
| 04:53.58 | ckknight | Gagorian: still errors. |
| 04:54.16 | Funkeh` | ckknight: seen the tooltip change about onupdate? |
| 04:54.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:54.43 | sylvanaar | ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 04:54.49 | sylvanaar | no love |
| 04:54.51 | ckknight | oh, does anyone have the framexml diff? |
| 04:54.57 | Sole | what is it with me and my desire to play weird specs |
| 04:55.04 | sylvanaar | you sound like me |
| 04:55.09 | Sole | Ive wanted a ret pally, shadow priest and now Im thinking of playing a moonkin |
| 04:55.21 | sylvanaar | ckknight diff of what - the one this week |
| 04:55.35 | ckknight | 2.1.3 to 0.2.0 |
| 04:55.43 | sylvanaar | its up? |
| 04:55.44 | Thrae | purl, emulate sylvanaar is All I want is a little attention! A little love! A little kindness! A little compassion! Is that so much to ask?! |
| 04:55.46 | purl | okay, Thrae |
| 04:56.48 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43692 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 04:56.48 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 04:56.48 | CIA-22 | - Also, hook tooltips later than in OnEnable. |
| 04:56.53 | Funkeh` | not yet |
| 04:57.04 | Funkeh` | tell me how to do it and i cna get it ^^ |
| 04:57.07 | Funkeh` | can* |
| 04:57.11 | Sole | ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 04:57.11 | purl | somebody said emulate sylvanaar was All I want is a little attention! A little love! A little kindness! A little compassion! Is that so much to ask?! |
| 04:57.23 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:57.30 | sylvanaar | ~emulate georgebush |
| 04:57.53 | Thrae | I fixed sylvanaar's emulate |
| 04:57.56 | rubik | is it me or did the column headings go away from Omen with the latest Threat commit? |
| 04:57.59 | Thrae | ~emulate gbw |
| 04:58.07 | sylvanaar | ~emulate Thrae |
| 04:58.08 | purl | Uh, the next update to TinyTip will be soon! Really! ...When I get around to it. |
| 04:59.00 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43693 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to TPS calculations. They seem to be functioning properly now! \o/ |
| 04:59.07 | Antiarc | /They should be there, rubik |
| 04:59.08 | Antiarc | It's an option |
| 05:00.14 | sylvanaar | ~purl emulate threa is also...My tiny tip takes up alot of itme |
| 05:00.15 | purl | okay, sylvanaar |
| 05:00.44 | rubik | oh, ok.. will check, thx |
| 05:01.08 | sylvanaar | Thrae did you ever creat a chatbubble tooltip/ |
| 05:02.33 | Thrae | purl, emulate george w. bush is <reply> Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. || <reply> I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family. || <reply> I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft. || <reply> I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. || <reply> You work three jobs? ...Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that. |
| 05:02.34 | purl | Thrae: okay |
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| 05:03.17 | ckknight | so everyone knows: PitBull will have voice chat support in it. |
| 05:03.17 | Thrae | purl, bushisms is see ~emulate george w. bush |
| 05:03.18 | purl | okay, Thrae |
| 05:03.19 | ckknight | somehow. |
| 05:03.27 | Thrae | sylvanaar: "Chat Bubbles"? |
| 05:03.45 | Thrae | You mean mousing over player names in the ChatFrame? |
| 05:04.30 | Thrae | ckknight: Finally! I've been screaming at my PitBull setup for weeks to no avail! |
| 05:04.55 | ckknight | Thrae: lol, I mean when someone talks, their unit frame will show an icon/change color/something |
| 05:05.06 | ckknight | also, I'll add DogTag support, too, likely |
| 05:05.50 | Thrae | ckknight: Make it make a sound to alert the players! |
| 05:05.59 | ckknight | ... |
| 05:06.19 | ckknight | btw, Thrae, I don't get the humor in the last one |
| 05:06.30 | Thrae | The last bushism? |
| 05:06.42 | ckknight | I work two jobs, my brother owns 5 companies |
| 05:06.48 | ckknight | so I don't get it. |
| 05:07.15 | Thrae | ckknight: That he says it's "Uniquely American" to ever need to work 3 jobs... |
| 05:07.38 | ckknight | much moreso than other countries, at least |
| 05:07.54 | Thrae | Anyway, I just got 'em off the top 10 bushisms |
| 05:08.01 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:08.01 | Wobin_ | er not really |
| 05:08.11 | ckknight | Wobin_: why not? |
| 05:08.22 | Wobin_ | Why would working three jobs be a uniquely american thing? |
| 05:08.31 | ckknight | I mean, I'm not saying it's "unique", I'm just saying that it would be more prevalent in America than other countries |
| 05:08.39 | Wobin_ | not necessarily |
| 05:08.46 | ckknight | and I ask again: why not? |
| 05:08.48 | Wobin_ | but anyway, it's a silly quote |
| 05:08.52 | binder | it's because we're very materalistic people and need to keep up with the jones' |
| 05:09.02 | binder | you non-americans know that saying? |
| 05:09.08 | Wobin_ | I could equally say, "Why is it more prevalent in the us?" |
| 05:09.09 | ckknight | no, binder, we must surpass the Joneses! |
| 05:09.21 | ckknight | Wobin_: because of lax tax laws for small business |
| 05:09.27 | ckknight | compared to other countries |
| 05:09.31 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 05:09.37 | ckknight | as well as being a relatively prosperous country |
| 05:09.38 | Wobin_ | No, I'm not talking about tax laws |
| 05:09.43 | ckknight | ...I am |
| 05:09.45 | Bibi | wtf ... |
| 05:09.47 | Wobin_ | I'm talking about needing to do three jobs in order to feed the family |
| 05:09.50 | Bibi | anyone know how the Blizzard download works ? |
| 05:09.53 | binder | lax tax laws? |
| 05:09.57 | ckknight | Bibi: torrent |
| 05:09.58 | binder | in america? |
| 05:10.03 | ckknight | binder: hell yea. |
| 05:10.05 | Thrae | ckknight: It might help to know the person in that Bushism was a lone mother of three |
| 05:10.07 | binder | man |
| 05:10.09 | Bibi | no, I mean, all the PTR patch I downloaded were saved in my mIRC directory |
| 05:10.17 | Bibi | wtf. |
| 05:10.19 | ckknight | Thrae: lol, yea, her situation was fucked |
| 05:10.21 | binder | ther are countries where you pay more than 60% in taxes? |
| 05:10.31 | ckknight | but then again, single mothers... surely it's god smiting you |
| 05:10.36 | ckknight | binder: 60%? no. |
| 05:10.36 | Wobin_ | When someone says "I work three jobs", I immediately assume the tacked on "...to make ends meet" |
| 05:10.59 | ckknight | binder: 35% for personal income tax, when you get into corporate it's much lower, especially for S-corps |
| 05:11.05 | Wobin_ | It's more of a abstracted assumption than one depandant on the laws within wherever they work |
| 05:11.11 | ckknight | and for large C-corps, you can just have an offshore account |
| 05:11.59 | Thrae | Happiness is its own reward...life is the pursuit of happiness...life is the pursuit of rewards! |
| 05:12.06 | Thrae | Ah, hedonism. |
| 05:12.22 | Wobin_ | God is blind |
| 05:12.34 | Sole | ckknight: remember that leveling guide you sent me? |
| 05:12.43 | ckknight | Sole: Joana's or Brian Kopp's? |
| 05:12.47 | Sole | ckknight: Joana's |
| 05:12.52 | ckknight | yea, what about it? |
| 05:13.00 | Thrae | Wobin_: God is always described as like a big glowing ball of light -- they never said he had eyeballs |
| 05:13.10 | Sole | ckknight: could you resend it please in 2 smaller zips |
| 05:13.12 | Wobin_ | Nah, it's the 'logical extension' |
| 05:13.15 | ckknight | Thrae: that's not true |
| 05:13.22 | Wobin_ | Love is blind, God is love, therefore God is blind |
| 05:13.41 | Sole | ckknight: every time I try to download it from my gmail, it halts at 5-9mb downloaded |
| 05:13.42 | ckknight | Thrae: in Genesis he's described as corporeal, and in quite a few modern religions, God is corporeal |
| 05:13.46 | sylvanaar | Thrae chat bubbles are a type of tooltip, thats why i asked |
| 05:13.49 | ckknight | Sole: hrm |
| 05:13.52 | Sole | ckknight: so I figure if its split in half I should dl it fine :P |
| 05:13.57 | Thrae | ckknight: Well, it depends on whether you're Catholic :D |
| 05:14.06 | ckknight | Thrae: or Mormon, or Hindu |
| 05:14.11 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Ah, TinyTip only affects the default GameTooltip currently |
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| 05:14.38 | Sole | ckknight: is Brian Kopp's guide any good? |
| 05:14.43 | ckknight | yea, seems nice |
| 05:14.47 | Thrae | sylvanaar: What do you want it to do to chat bubbles? |
| 05:14.55 | sylvanaar | my poor PitBull_Prat module will be superceded by blizzards crap |
| 05:15.00 | ckknight | the one I'm entering a business deal with seems pretty pimp |
| 05:15.10 | ckknight | sylvanaar: howso? |
| 05:15.13 | sylvanaar | Thrae i have already did it, just wondering |
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| 05:15.32 | sylvanaar | ckknight well, ppl will be using voice |
| 05:15.36 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Well, what did you already do then :D |
| 05:15.38 | ckknight | oh, well, yess. |
| 05:15.39 | ckknight | yes* |
| 05:15.54 | ckknight | sylvanaar: and as I said before, PitBull will have support for that somehow |
| 05:16.04 | Thrae | Finally, I can tell people with my own voice to shut the hell up about Mankirk's Wife! |
| 05:16.17 | sylvanaar | Thrae http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7190.0 |
| 05:16.22 | ckknight | Thrae: I can almost guarantee you won't have zone-based chat |
| 05:16.37 | Thrae | ckknight: Yeah, that'd be pretty insane |
| 05:17.39 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Ahhh. Well that does seem kinda more geared towards the unit frame then the tooltip itself. |
| 05:17.57 | Xerophyte | I wonder if BGs will feature voice chat. That would be an amusing train wreck |
| 05:17.58 | Thrae | I could the tooltip flash if it's over the person talking... |
| 05:18.10 | Sole | ckknight: so will you send Joana's guide please? |
| 05:18.13 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 05:18.28 | ckknight | Sole: I no longer have it on my comp... |
| 05:18.34 | Sole | ckknight: :( |
| 05:18.35 | ckknight | <-- ally now |
| 05:18.38 | ckknight | sorry, guy |
| 05:18.53 | ckknight | Xerophyte: I'd almost guarantee it. |
| 05:19.12 | sylvanaar | i am going to try out windows readyboost |
| 05:19.34 | ilifin | windows readyboost which works against itself and makes your system slower |
| 05:19.43 | ilifin | proven case study, confirmed by micorosft |
| 05:19.44 | ilifin | <_< |
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| 05:19.54 | sylvanaar | i dont read linux propaganda |
| 05:19.58 | Xerophyte | I'm not sure I'd like an opt-out system for selecting the people I hear in the average AV. Being the only RP server on a mostly PVP battlegroup can be ... tiring :) |
| 05:20.02 | sylvanaar | im going to try it myself |
| 05:20.09 | ilifin | me neither, I read windows faggot news since I have to on work |
| 05:20.12 | ilifin | >_> |
| 05:20.40 | Xuerian | Ok, I'm at a loss. What addon[s] out there will compare the actual bonuses between the currently hovered item, and equipped items (in the equip compare tooltip)? |
| 05:20.56 | NightHawkTheSane | RatingBuster? |
| 05:21.14 | Xuerian | Is that a answer, or a question? :p |
| 05:21.18 | NightHawkTheSane | both. |
| 05:21.32 | NightHawkTheSane | presuming you mean what i think you mean, its an answer. otherwise its a question |
| 05:21.53 | Xuerian | Will answer the question in answer to the question as soon as I get the answer to the question queried. |
| 05:22.10 | NightHawkTheSane | alrighty |
| 05:22.32 | Xuerian | hmm.. |
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| 05:23.57 | sylvanaar | still sounds like linux propaganda - what were the conditions under which the system ran slower |
| 05:25.38 | sylvanaar | you know clique has that same bug acedb had way back when - i need to update my copy |
| 05:25.40 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe.. http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/wifi_names |
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| 05:30.13 | Xuerian | NightHawkAtWork: Much thanks, that was it indeed :p |
| 05:31.43 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
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| 05:40.08 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174616076&postId=3001632763&sid=1#0 |
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| 05:41.54 | Thrae | ckknight: From what I gleamed talking with various people, Iriel included, it would be a bit of a nightmare on the UI devs side |
| 05:42.17 | Thrae | I've been asking for it since I started working with rophy =/ |
| 05:42.21 | ckknight | I don't see how, as it's merely just an addition |
| 05:42.31 | ckknight | either way, I'll just keep barraging Slouken with it |
| 05:42.45 | ckknight | granted, he hasn't listened to some of my other requests in the past |
| 05:42.48 | ckknight | ...*sigh* |
| 05:43.04 | Thrae | Well I think a picture of him in a dress *was* a little outlandish! |
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| 05:43.16 | Thrae | Even though we all know slouken would look quite fetching in a dress. |
| 05:43.16 | ckknight | ... |
| 05:44.52 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt effect any previous mods since the it would just be additional returns and the first one would stay the same |
| 05:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: i agree. |
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| 05:46.26 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r43694 10WeaponRebuff/ (Readme.txt WeaponRebuff.lua): |
| 05:46.26 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 05:46.26 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.35 | NimbleRabit | how does resto druid/rogue beat holy priest/rogue? |
| 05:52.46 | Diao | cyclone priest, attack rogue? |
| 05:53.13 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43695 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: kill the gray windows, hrmf |
| 05:55.00 | NimbleRabit | that's what we were trying |
| 05:55.04 | NimbleRabit | but priest just mana burns my druid down |
| 05:55.47 | durcyn | respec feral and rape the priest from stealth. |
| 05:56.08 | NimbleRabit | that doesn't really work at 10k hp 400 resil levels |
| 05:59.18 | Neebler | I hope they'll introduce ingame voice chat along with guild banks in the 2.2 patch. Perhaps as the PTR goes on, because theirs no talk of either feature in the 2.2 ptr patch notes |
| 06:03.55 | dreamss | were is the new 10man |
| 06:04.00 | dreamss | this sounds like a major patch |
| 06:04.05 | dreamss | and the orc shoulder fix |
| 06:04.41 | dreamss | anyone seen zinor around? |
| 06:06.28 | Mikk | ~seen zinor |
| 06:06.58 | purl | zinor <n=aaaa@ip-80-226-140-43.vodafone-net.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 298d 12h 44m 14s ago, saying: 'It seems I've been an annoyance here (not that I can see how) and Curse Gaming staff aren't wanted in a UI channel specifically because it's Cairenn's playground. Good luck guys.'. |
| 06:07.20 | Mikk | "no" |
| 06:08.00 | Thrae | Mikk: I was in #curse-lua for a while, until I realized no one ever talked there |
| 06:08.36 | Thrae | Mikk: I think there was like 1 line said per week or so |
| 06:08.43 | Mikk | haha ouch |
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| 06:10.30 | Daemoen | hey guys, anyone happen to know if the cartographer icons ui addon is still under development? |
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| 06:14.04 | Xuerian | Ahhh.. ui drama |
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| 06:17.13 | dreamss | mikk thats wrong |
| 06:18.06 | ckknight | back |
| 06:18.15 | ckknight | making homemade mango sorbet |
| 06:18.41 | ckknight | oh, I talked to zinor like two days ago, dreamss |
| 06:18.49 | dreamss | were? |
| 06:18.51 | ckknight | dreamss: he's on quakenet |
| 06:18.57 | ckknight | also, we use big people words here |
| 06:18.59 | ckknight | like "where" |
| 06:18.59 | dreamss | dam it |
| 06:19.04 | ckknight | and "damn" |
| 06:19.14 | dreamss | make a regsub script? |
| 06:19.16 | dreamss | :P |
| 06:19.17 | ckknight | although "dammit" would be acceptable |
| 06:19.53 | Peoii | ckknight: mod author, and grammar police. |
| 06:20.10 | Mikk | i just mostly ignore people that can't type properly |
| 06:20.20 | Mikk | "can i have water plz" <- no response |
| 06:20.22 | ckknight | meh, I don't have to put up with people like that |
| 06:20.27 | Mikk | "can i have some water please?" <- guy gets water |
| 06:20.44 | dreamss | heh, im lazy and like to save keystrokes |
| 06:20.55 | ckknight | "Mr. Walking-Soda-Machine, can I have some soda?" |
| 06:20.58 | Peoii | "can I have some water please?" <-- dude gets one of the rank1 stacks I fill my bags with just to annoy people who beg for water... |
| 06:21.19 | ckknight | dreamss: yea, well so you know, you can shape up or you can leave |
| 06:22.04 | dreamss | i really do not want to be rude since you answered me question :P |
| 06:22.05 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r43696 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 06:22.05 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip : |
| 06:22.05 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 06:22.23 | Peoii | s/me/my |
| 06:22.56 | dreamss | and like i said, you can allways make a reg sub script |
| 06:23.55 | Peoii | Oh btw: Damn Microsoft, damn them all to hell... The vista version of Freecell makes it all to addicting again. :/ gg Eye candy. |
| 06:24.00 | dreamss | dammit hes not on qn atm |
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| 06:27.23 | cnc|work | hello all ! |
| 06:27.34 | cnc|work | 8h5 mins ! |
| 06:27.46 | Mikk | ? |
| 06:28.00 | Mikk | countdown to vacation? |
| 06:28.00 | cnc|work | just got to work, counting when i'm done :) |
| 06:28.07 | Mikk | ah :P |
| 06:28.07 | cnc|work | countdown to weekend ^^ |
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| 06:28.12 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 06:28.16 | Mikk | morning ammo |
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| 06:28.55 | Arrowmaster | lol seems like the ptr installer has issues trying to delete .svn folders |
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| 06:31.58 | ckknight | can anyone make a framexml diff of 2.1.3 => 0.2.0? |
| 06:33.11 | vhaarr | I would, but it seems it's on enUS only |
| 06:33.31 | [Ammo] | ckknight: can I suggest making the parrot options LoD, it has a lot of mem in use, but I think it's all the silly dewdrop stuff (at least that's what I hope) |
| 06:33.59 | ckknight | [Ammo]: oh yea, I was planning on making a specialized system. |
| 06:34.35 | ckknight | vhaarr: hrm, I'm enUS and can't DL |
| 06:34.35 | [Ammo] | right now parser-3.0 + parrot = 3x size of MSBT |
| 06:34.35 | [Ammo] | which seems quite a bit of overkill |
| 06:34.35 | ckknight | lol, probably |
| 06:34.37 | ckknight | it's cause of the options |
| 06:34.40 | ckknight | lots and lots of tables |
| 06:34.58 | vhaarr | my PTR client is still 0.1.2 |
| 06:35.22 | ckknight | mine is 0.1.0 |
| 06:36.15 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43697 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: bugfix |
| 06:37.53 | Mikk | that's so useful in the changelogs that is |
| 06:38.19 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 06:38.22 | [Ammo] | well it's what it is |
| 06:38.33 | [Ammo] | time to visit a loanshark |
| 06:38.35 | [Ammo] | wtb house |
| 06:38.36 | [Ammo] | ~~~ |
| 06:38.38 | purl | I HATE YOU, [ammo]!!! |
| 06:38.41 | Mikk | oooh grats |
| 06:39.21 | ckknight | w/ or w/o mortgage? |
| 06:39.48 | Mikk | with |
| 06:39.56 | Mikk | still cheaper than the apartment i had |
| 06:40.16 | Mikk | and now some of the monthly expenses are for my own benefit even |
| 06:40.45 | Fisker-- | anyone seen if they added some stuff related to guildchats or voip in the lua yet? |
| 06:42.09 | vhaarr | ah, there it is |
| 06:42.24 | rubik | would be amazing if they did (add voice stuff in already) |
| 06:43.43 | Fisker-- | they have |
| 06:44.09 | cnc|work | its in ?? |
| 06:44.16 | Fisker-- | http://ace.pastey.net/70723 |
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| 06:45.11 | ckknight | Mikk: imho, personally, I don't consider someone a homeowner till the mortgage is paid off in full |
| 06:45.21 | ckknight | cause the bank still has power over you |
| 06:45.30 | ckknight | even in a contractually limited sense |
| 06:46.58 | ckknight | vhaarr: once you dl and install, mind making a framexml diff? |
| 06:47.04 | vhaarr | of course |
| 06:47.26 | cnc|work | Six Demon Bag: The damage spells cast by this item no longer benefit from a player’s bonus spell damage effects. :( |
| 06:47.32 | cnc|work | noes they fixed it |
| 06:47.37 | cnc|work | was funny with 1k spelldmg |
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| 06:47.51 | striper | morning |
| 06:48.00 | cnc|work | good morning |
| 06:48.19 | Fisker-- | http://ace.pastey.net/70724 |
| 06:48.40 | striper | ok, for the dumb one (me)... how can i make an addon use babble instead of writing a big localisation file? |
| 06:48.53 | striper | shammyspy is the one i mean |
| 06:49.10 | striper | it sounds very good, but it only works with enEN |
| 06:49.48 | rubik | whoa.. macs get native video capturing a la fraps in 2.2? |
| 06:49.57 | striper | only macs? |
| 06:50.09 | rubik | seems like it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=9C3197F021F8166CEAB8304E68FECAE7?topicId=174505927 |
| 06:50.24 | Fisker-- | yeah striper :( |
| 06:50.25 | striper | they want to do it for everyone i heard |
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| 06:50.38 | striper | PCs probabaly get it later then |
| 06:50.42 | rubik | except it's better than fraps cause they mention codecs so it'll compress on the fly eh? |
| 06:50.48 | Fisker-- | probably not |
| 06:50.55 | Fisker-- | since blizzard are a bunch of mac fans |
| 06:50.57 | Fisker-- | QQ |
| 06:51.17 | rubik | it's using quicktime and quicktime is teh debil anyway and has no place on my PC, sooo.. yeah |
| 06:51.18 | Fisker-- | MovieRecordingProcess.lua :P |
| 06:51.24 | striper | blizzard stated that vid capture is planned in the client... they simply can't just give it to mac users |
| 06:51.34 | striper | that wouldn't be Blizzards style |
| 06:51.36 | Fisker-- | do want liek trackmania united has |
| 06:52.19 | ckknight | striper: yes it is |
| 06:52.23 | ckknight | look at iTunes support |
| 06:52.43 | striper | so, any hints for the retarded regarding the localisation of ShammySpy? |
| 06:53.43 | striper | ckknight: does the mac client have ingame itunes support? |
| 06:53.55 | ckknight | sure does |
| 06:54.02 | striper | didn't know |
| 06:54.03 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 06:54.26 | Fisker-- | owld :( |
| 06:54.32 | Fisker-- | they never got to include pc support |
| 06:54.36 | Fisker-- | mac fanboys! |
| 06:54.50 | striper | they _could_ go with Windows Media Player support... knowing that almost no PC user uses it... |
| 06:54.56 | Fisker-- | just like how mac have had png and jpg support for how many years now? |
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| 06:55.20 | Fisker-- | most applications uses wmp's same functions as a baseline for their own program in any case |
| 06:55.24 | Fisker-- | if i remember correctly |
| 06:55.56 | vhaarr | what the hell, pastey.net is useless for this |
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| 06:56.03 | Fisker-- | ? |
| 06:56.26 | cnc|work | :o |
| 06:56.29 | cnc|work | they buffed alliance paladins |
| 06:56.33 | cnc|work | why am I horde damnit |
| 06:56.34 | Fisker-- | yeah |
| 06:56.42 | Fisker-- | it's retarded |
| 06:56.42 | ckknight | <--- Draenei Pally |
| 06:56.48 | ckknight | vhaarr: is it? |
| 06:56.48 | Fisker-- | seal of blood is the most useless seal ever made |
| 06:56.48 | striper | it's hard to support the massive amount of 'favorite musicplayers' on the PC side... on the mac it's easy... every mac user loves being fully dependent of what Steve is giving them... every single one has iTunes :( |
| 06:56.57 | Fisker-- | and they buff the alliance version |
| 06:56.58 | ckknight | vhaarr: DCC it to me if need be |
| 06:57.21 | vhaarr | norganna: when I'm pasting the framexml diff for 2.1.3 -> 0.2.0 on pastey.net, I have to enter some URLs backwards and the amount of times the entry contains the URL. A FrameXML patch has www.blizzard.com and w3.org many times over because of the XML file declarations |
| 06:57.26 | vhaarr | norganna: counting them was annoying |
| 06:57.29 | vhaarr | but it's done now |
| 06:57.31 | vhaarr | http://pastey.net/70725 |
| 06:57.40 | Fisker-- | ctrl+f vhaarr |
| 06:57.45 | Fisker-- | but yeah it's retarded |
| 06:57.52 | ckknight | oh hell |
| 06:57.55 | ckknight | that is totally retarded |
| 06:57.57 | Fisker-- | atleast make a whitelist to not require it from blizzard.com w3.org etc. |
| 06:58.29 | Fisker-- | They seem to have bugged the menus btw |
| 06:58.37 | Fisker-- | when you first enter the menu it has "Sounds & Voice" |
| 06:58.49 | Fisker-- | if you exit the menu and go in again it's just "Sounds" |
| 06:59.36 | vhaarr | LSHIFT, RSHIFT, LCTRL, RCTRL, LALT, RALT |
| 06:59.50 | ckknight | vhaarr: looks like the lines messed up, every other one is a newline |
| 06:59.50 | vhaarr | wonder if SHIFT, CTRL and ALT will continue to work |
| 06:59.56 | vhaarr | ckknight: yes whatever |
| 06:59.58 | vhaarr | you can still read it |
| 07:00.02 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:00.06 | ckknight | yea, it will |
| 07:00.59 | vhaarr | GetVoiceStatus(unitId) |
| 07:01.16 | vhaarr | muted 1/nil, probably |
| 07:01.24 | vhaarr | no |
| 07:01.26 | vhaarr | 2/1/nil |
| 07:01.59 | vhaarr | COMSAT_VOICE_STATUS_UPDATE, COMSAT_START, COMSAT_STOP - events |
| 07:02.12 | Fisker-- | lol |
| 07:02.15 | vhaarr | start and stop have unit IDs as arg1 |
| 07:02.18 | Fisker-- | thought they misspelled combat fora moment there |
| 07:03.31 | Fisker-- | anyone know what SCRIPT_CHANNEL_UI_UPDATE means? |
| 07:03.49 | Fisker-- | http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3595/wowscrnshot071307084940or2.jpg |
| 07:04.34 | Fisker-- | Voice Chat NOT allowed by server |
| 07:04.35 | Fisker-- | :OOOO |
| 07:04.42 | Fisker-- | said that in the console when i died |
| 07:05.05 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: 0.2.0/FrameXML/ActionButton.lua |
| 07:05.08 | Fisker-- | actually before i died :P |
| 07:05.11 | vhaarr | - this:RegisterEvent("UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED"); |
| 07:05.27 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i just downloaded the client, gimme time :P |
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| 07:05.37 | vhaarr | dream on |
| 07:05.55 | ckknight | Fisker-: yea, it'll add it soon, apparently |
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| 07:06.16 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r43698 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/BattlegroundPvP.en.lua: |
| 07:06.16 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 07:06.16 | CIA-22 | - BG prices adjusted |
| 07:06.33 | ckknight | vhaarr: is it too soon to add PitBull voice support? :-P |
| 07:06.38 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 07:06.38 | vhaarr | no |
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| 07:07.07 | vhaarr | just check for GetVoiceStatus |
| 07:07.13 | ckknight | well, and the events |
| 07:07.24 | vhaarr | yes but whether the code should be enabled or not, I mean |
| 07:07.35 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 07:08.12 | vhaarr | zomg |
| 07:08.17 | vhaarr | blizzard optimized code |
| 07:08.24 | ckknight | vhaarr: oh yea, the macro stuff |
| 07:08.38 | vhaarr | the action bars and bank frames as well so far |
| 07:09.00 | Fisker-- | CVar "VoiceActivationSensitivity" is "0.6" OH NO |
| 07:09.05 | Fisker-- | CVar "VoiceChatMode" is "0" |
| 07:09.22 | vhaarr | MovieRecording_Toggle() |
| 07:09.27 | vhaarr | MovieRecording_Cancel() |
| 07:09.34 | vhaarr | platform="mac" |
| 07:09.48 | Antiarc | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ <-- lol at OrionShock |
| 07:10.02 | Antiarc | Those mean Omen CandyBars >:( |
| 07:10.04 | Fisker-- | wonder if the api for recording would work if you had itunes and quicktime on your pc |
| 07:10.11 | vhaarr | 0.2.0/FrameXML/ChannelFrame.lua what the |
| 07:10.24 | vhaarr | Fisker-: it won't |
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| 07:10.39 | vhaarr | GetSelectedDisplayChannel |
| 07:10.48 | vhaarr | local name, header, collapsed, channelNumber, count, active, category, voiceEnabled, voiceActive = GetChannelDisplayInfo(selectedID); |
| 07:11.12 | Funkeh` | category O_o |
| 07:11.29 | vhaarr | -- |
| 07:11.35 | vhaarr | local channelCount = GetNumDisplayChannels(); |
| 07:11.39 | vhaarr | for i=1, MAX_CHANNEL_BUTTONS, 1 do |
| 07:11.42 | vhaarr | if ( i <= channelCount) then |
| 07:11.43 | Arrowmaster` | i hope theres only guild raid and party |
| 07:11.47 | vhaarr | name, header, collapsed, channelNumber, count, active, category, voiceEnabled, voiceActive = GetChannelDisplayInfo(i); |
| 07:11.47 | vhaarr | -- |
| 07:12.21 | vhaarr | MiniMapVoiceChat_Update() oO |
| 07:12.26 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:12.29 | ckknight | srsly? |
| 07:12.39 | ckknight | location-based voice would be interested |
| 07:12.41 | Antiarc | That could be kinda hot. |
| 07:12.43 | ckknight | interesting* |
| 07:12.49 | ckknight | other games have done it |
| 07:12.52 | ckknight | and done it _well_ |
| 07:12.53 | nevcairiel | i dont think they would do it |
| 07:12.55 | Antiarc | ckknight: I'm thinking a waypoint-style arrow to point to the last voice comms dude |
| 07:13.03 | ckknight | ah |
| 07:13.06 | Antiarc | That would be sex in PVP. |
| 07:13.08 | ckknight | prolly |
| 07:13.34 | nevcairiel | but no new pve content, boo |
| 07:13.40 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yet |
| 07:13.43 | Fisker-- | > EnableVoiceChat 1 |
| 07:13.46 | Fisker-- | Voice Chat NOT allowed by server |
| 07:13.48 | ckknight | Zul'Aman might come |
| 07:13.48 | Fisker-- | QQ |
| 07:13.52 | ckknight | Fisker-: stop saying that |
| 07:13.55 | ckknight | Fisker-: we know. |
| 07:15.06 | Fisker-- | ah |
| 07:15.14 | Fisker-- | they already have a binding for voicechat :P |
| 07:15.20 | vhaarr | lol, they optimized the bags as well |
| 07:15.22 | Fisker-- | that's why it was randomly writing it in my console |
| 07:15.58 | ckknight | buttonRankTexture:SetTexture("Interface\\Common\\VoiceChat-Speaker") |
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| 07:15.59 | ckknight | ooh |
| 07:16.51 | Fisker-- | readTerminationWithoutNotice <-haha did that exist pre 2.2? |
| 07:17.02 | ckknight | dunno |
| 07:17.04 | ckknight | what's it do? |
| 07:17.06 | Health | Umm. 2.2 PRT or whats up? |
| 07:17.15 | Fisker-- | yeah |
| 07:17.25 | vhaarr | http://pastey.net/70725 |
| 07:17.50 | vhaarr | "MutedListFrame", you can permanently mute people just like the ignore list |
| 07:17.55 | vhaarr | but it seems they keep separate lists |
| 07:18.04 | ckknight | Health: PTR |
| 07:18.07 | vhaarr | which is not a bad idea, I guess |
| 07:18.15 | vhaarr | MUTELIST_UPDATE |
| 07:18.27 | vhaarr | Kemayo: ^ |
| 07:18.30 | evl | • Greater Blessing of Kings, Light, Might, Salvation, Sanctuary and Wisdom increased to 30 minutes. |
| 07:18.34 | evl | HALLEFUCKINGLUJA |
| 07:18.43 | Mikk | :O |
| 07:18.50 | vhaarr | GetNumMutes |
| 07:18.53 | ckknight | vhaarr: okay, GetVoiceStatus("unit") => nil (no voice), 1 (voice), 2 (mute) |
| 07:18.59 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah |
| 07:19.26 | vhaarr | GetMuteName(index) |
| 07:19.33 | Fisker-- | obviously vhaarr :P |
| 07:19.35 | vhaarr | much like the friends API |
| 07:19.42 | vhaarr | Fisker-: what's obvious? |
| 07:19.46 | Fisker-- | i just want to mute obnoxious spammers not nessecarily ignore them :P |
| 07:19.47 | *** kick/#wowace [Fisker-!n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 07:19.57 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:20.02 | ckknight | what was that for? |
| 07:20.02 | Fisker-- | wtf? |
| 07:20.08 | Fisker-- | ah |
| 07:20.08 | vhaarr | two clients confused me |
| 07:20.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:20.12 | ckknight | oh, lol |
| 07:20.17 | Fisker-- | i was like "why am i still here?" |
| 07:20.18 | Fisker-- | :P |
| 07:20.21 | vhaarr | lol |
| 07:20.43 | Fisker-- | i'm sorry, just meant it would be silly if you had to either ignore the completely rather than keep it seperate :P |
| 07:20.48 | Arrowmaster | why is this damn diff doublespaced |
| 07:20.56 | vhaarr | blame GNU |
| 07:21.10 | Arrowmaster | how about i blame YOU |
| 07:21.10 | vhaarr | actually |
| 07:21.20 | vhaarr | I'd blame either mozilla or pastey.net |
| 07:21.28 | vhaarr | in my vim session, it's not doublespaced |
| 07:21.39 | ckknight | vhaarr: what's the revision number for 0.2.0? |
| 07:21.49 | Fisker-- | WoW [Release] Build 6932 (Jul 11 2007) |
| 07:21.52 | Fisker-- | mean like that? |
| 07:21.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:21.58 | vhaarr | yes |
| 07:22.02 | vhaarr | 6932 |
| 07:22.04 | ckknight | why the fuck can't I dl 0.2.0? |
| 07:22.27 | Arrowmaster | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enUS.html |
| 07:22.56 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: in case you've not been reminded recently, you're a pimp |
| 07:23.05 | vhaarr | I got it on http://www.wow-europe.com/ptr/downloads/downloads.html |
| 07:23.14 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 07:23.16 | cnc|work | WTB seal of vengeance for horde ... |
| 07:23.23 | ckknight | well this is America, woo! |
| 07:23.37 | vhaarr | hence why I didn't care to post it earlier |
| 07:23.43 | Arrowmaster | srsly, now that they nerfed the double procing of procs, SoB is completely useless |
| 07:24.12 | vhaarr | AddMute(UnitName("target")) |
| 07:24.24 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@83.145.75.66) |
| 07:25.07 | pb_ee1 | ";" is bad, but getglobal() is bad too? |
| 07:25.15 | Arrowmaster | i go looking at the exe with a hex editor when i want to find new functions |
| 07:25.28 | ckknight | yes, pb_ee1 |
| 07:25.28 | vhaarr | finally |
| 07:25.34 | krka | if you need getglobal then you're doing something wrong |
| 07:25.35 | krka | in general |
| 07:25.35 | vhaarr | +function GameTooltip_OnUpdate(self, elapsed) |
| 07:25.37 | ckknight | pb_ee1: _G[thing] is better |
| 07:25.44 | vhaarr | + -- Only update every TOOLTIP_UPDATE_TIME seconds |
| 07:25.49 | krka | if you need _G[thing] then you're doing something wrong |
| 07:25.54 | krka | in general |
| 07:26.07 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: so its just a throttled onupdate now? |
| 07:26.10 | vhaarr | yes |
| 07:26.14 | Arrowmaster | gay |
| 07:26.15 | vhaarr | but it's better than nothing |
| 07:26.23 | vhaarr | nothing being an unthrottled onupdate |
| 07:27.03 | Arrowmaster | the forum post made it sound so much better |
| 07:27.23 | vhaarr | I can imagine, but I didn't read it |
| 07:27.24 | vhaarr | CHANNEL_CATEGORY_CUSTOM = "Custom"; CHANNEL_CATEGORY_GROUP = "Group"; CHANNEL_CATEGORY_WORLD = "World"; |
| 07:27.31 | Arrowmaster | custom? |
| 07:27.34 | Arrowmaster | crap |
| 07:27.40 | Arrowmaster | world!!! |
| 07:27.42 | Arrowmaster | fuck! |
| 07:27.48 | vhaarr | world is probably area |
| 07:27.53 | Arrowmaster | but still |
| 07:27.58 | evl | I just came |
| 07:27.59 | evl | IRL |
| 07:28.00 | evl | * Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish. |
| 07:28.36 | Arrowmaster | * Pets will still chase dumbass rogues and night elfs that only stealth instead of Vanish. |
| 07:29.00 | evl | A bit sad though |
| 07:29.07 | evl | removal of Blnd Reagent |
| 07:29.16 | vhaarr | really? |
| 07:29.18 | vhaarr | that sucks balls |
| 07:29.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah i have like 55 on my rogue alt |
| 07:29.22 | vhaarr | christ |
| 07:29.27 | evl | I used to make shitloads of money off my /cast Pick Pocket;/stopattack;/cast Cheap Shot mrco :P |
| 07:29.29 | vhaarr | rogues will use it 24/7 now |
| 07:29.37 | evl | vhaarr: It's on 1 min cd :P |
| 07:29.41 | nuoHep | its on 1min cd now also :D |
| 07:29.42 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 07:29.56 | nuoHep | elusivness brings it to 45s |
| 07:30.00 | Arrowmaster | evl: why the /stopattack? |
| 07:30.01 | vhaarr | seriously, that's unnerving for pvp |
| 07:30.07 | Fisker-- | not really |
| 07:30.13 | Fisker-- | it's nice that they finally did it :P |
| 07:30.14 | Health | Will be interesting in arenas. |
| 07:30.15 | evl | Arrowmaster: only way to get it working afaik |
| 07:30.26 | Fisker-- | cooldown change might be over the top though |
| 07:30.26 | vhaarr | what do you mean 'arenas'? |
| 07:30.31 | Arrowmaster | evl: sure you dont mean /stopcasting? |
| 07:30.40 | Arrowmaster | or does /stopattack do the same thing? |
| 07:30.46 | nuoHep | and if you remember 3piece zg set gives -20sec cd on blind. so a rgoue can have 25sec cd on blind ifthey dont berf the set |
| 07:30.53 | vhaarr | in -every fucking- "rogue vs me" battle in battlegrounds, I'll be blinded now |
| 07:30.53 | nuoHep | rogue* |
| 07:30.55 | vhaarr | in 2.2 |
| 07:30.58 | Iceroth | can someone link me ptr patch notes? |
| 07:31.00 | vhaarr | in EVERY rogue encounter |
| 07:31.07 | evl | Arrowmaster: same I think |
| 07:31.13 | evl | vhaarr: yes |
| 07:31.22 | evl | rogues rock! |
| 07:31.24 | vhaarr | and you don't think that's excessive? |
| 07:31.27 | Fisker-- | they did nerf the warlock set when they buffed death coil nuoHep |
| 07:31.43 | Fisker-- | but there 2 minutes less cooldown on death coil = no cooldown :P |
| 07:31.53 | Arrowmaster | lol yeah back when deathcoil was a 10 fucking minute cooldown |
| 07:31.58 | Arrowmaster | fucking useless |
| 07:32.17 | vhaarr | rophy, ckknight: +SPELLEVADEDOTHER = "%s was evaded by %s."; |
| 07:32.26 | ckknight | kthx |
| 07:32.29 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 07:32.38 | ckknight | my mango sorbet turned out pretty nice |
| 07:32.41 | Antiarc | vhaarr: It's 8 sec, cleansable, can be self-countered with trinkets, stoneform, and a preventive Abolish Poison or Poison Cleansing Totem :P |
| 07:32.45 | Arrowmaster | what would that be used for? |
| 07:32.46 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 07:32.47 | Fisker-- | btw ckknight what did you mean with voicechat in pitbull? |
| 07:32.50 | vhaarr | Antiarc: fuck rogues |
| 07:32.52 | vhaarr | >< |
| 07:32.55 | nuoHep | there is now mention of the zg set nerf in the patchnotes so... they will nerf it eventually imho, but 25sec cd on blind is awesome :D |
| 07:32.56 | Fisker-- | To make like a voicechat icon when someone is speaking? |
| 07:32.57 | ckknight | Fisker--: I'll add support |
| 07:32.57 | Antiarc | vhaarr: Warriors regularly do. |
| 07:33.00 | vhaarr | :P |
| 07:33.14 | nuoHep | now = no |
| 07:33.23 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: yeah but warriors do that to everybody not just rogues |
| 07:33.28 | Fisker-- | well if EU didn't screw up i could've copied my rogue and checked |
| 07:33.34 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Granted! |
| 07:33.38 | Fisker-- | for some reason my copies were just removed |
| 07:33.48 | Fisker-- | so i got a level 1 on test :( |
| 07:33.55 | ckknight | Fisker--: yea, basically |
| 07:34.25 | cnc|work | Arrowmaster, Seal of Blood still outdps's seal of command |
| 07:34.32 | vhaarr | err |
| 07:35.00 | Arrowmaster | cnc|work: only for full ret spec with 0 +dmg though right? |
| 07:35.01 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-129-181.citizip.com) |
| 07:35.02 | vhaarr | they removed GetText, GetGenderTag, GetPluralTag, GetPluralIndex |
| 07:35.13 | vhaarr | not that I've ever used them |
| 07:35.33 | cnc|work | Arrowmaster, which is pretty much what should be used in pve imo :p |
| 07:35.37 | cnc|work | together with a lionheart |
| 07:35.40 | cnc|work | (i'm prot though) |
| 07:35.56 | Arrowmaster | for prot SoV is really good, SoB worthless |
| 07:36.08 | Arrowmaster | not sure about SoV for ret though |
| 07:37.08 | vhaarr | +MINIMAP_RECORDING_INDICATOR_ON = false; |
| 07:37.16 | cnc|work | I'm horde, so no SoV for me |
| 07:37.26 | cnc|work | why dont they give all seals to everyone in the first place ? |
| 07:37.30 | cnc|work | that SoV buff is huge |
| 07:37.32 | vhaarr | MOVIE_RECORDING_PROGRESS |
| 07:37.33 | Fisker-- | btw |
| 07:37.33 | Fisker-- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoW0.2/ |
| 07:37.39 | cnc|work | it now works like an SoV |
| 07:37.40 | Fisker-- | US and GB clients for PC |
| 07:37.42 | vhaarr | MovieRecording_IsRecording() |
| 07:37.45 | Fisker-- | along with torrents |
| 07:38.00 | cnc|work | SoV now works like SoR when fully stacks + it refreshes the dot |
| 07:38.03 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle|Work (n=Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:38.57 | vhaarr | and they optimized the paper doll frame as well |
| 07:39.30 | cnc|work | what did they do about it? cant download much atm |
| 07:39.44 | cnc|work | (btw, didnt blizz say there wld be retri buffs in 2.2 ? where are they damnit) |
| 07:39.44 | vhaarr | ckknight: local icon = getglobal("PartyMemberFrame"..id.."Speaker"); |
| 07:39.49 | vhaarr | local muted = getglobal("PartyMemberFrame"..id.."SpeakerMuted"); |
| 07:40.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43699 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add support for SPELLEVADEDOTHER, which is found in WoW 2.2 |
| 07:40.00 | vhaarr | getglobal("PartyMemberFrame"..id.."SpeakerOn"):SetVertexColor(0.7, 0.7, 0.7); |
| 07:40.02 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:40.16 | Fisker-- | i dislike sacrifice nerf |
| 07:40.22 | Fisker-- | for paladins |
| 07:40.28 | Antiarc | I greatly like the Sac and Freedom nerfs |
| 07:40.33 | Antiarc | Greatly greatly. |
| 07:40.36 | Fisker-- | :P |
| 07:40.41 | Health | What are the nerfs? |
| 07:40.44 | Fisker-- | cooldown |
| 07:40.45 | Antiarc | That's going to hurt the war/paladin arena powerhouse |
| 07:40.46 | Fisker-- | 1 minute |
| 07:40.46 | cnc|work | BoSac 1 min cd |
| 07:40.48 | cnc|work | (that sucks |
| 07:40.51 | Fisker-- | ^^ |
| 07:40.52 | cnc|work | cuz it can already be purged |
| 07:41.02 | cnc|work | every smart team did that already, now we cant reapply it |
| 07:41.09 | cnc|work | the BoFreedom nerf is ok, its understandable |
| 07:41.17 | cnc|work | 16/20 secs snare immune warriors were funny |
| 07:41.18 | syeren | Teams that purge it don't often have a very good partner to take advantage of CC in the first place (Sac that is.) |
| 07:41.21 | syeren | So next argument ;p |
| 07:41.32 | cnc|work | syeren, shammy + mage |
| 07:41.41 | Arrowmaster | not logged onto ptr yet but did they make the voice chat included into the text chat channels? |
| 07:41.41 | cnc|work | purge Sac on my lock/warrior mate then sheep me |
| 07:41.55 | Fisker-- | Arrowmaster there is some voice chat support atm |
| 07:41.58 | Fisker-- | but it's not complete |
| 07:42.02 | Antiarc | cnc|work: That assumes a shaman/mage team :P |
| 07:42.10 | Fisker-- | That's why it will come in minor patches after 2.2 and then zul'aman in 2.3 |
| 07:42.11 | syeren | Shaman + Mage is a pathetic combo. |
| 07:42.19 | Antiarc | It really is |
| 07:42.30 | Arrowmaster | i know but looking at the globalstrings it looks like the voice chat is being worked into the custom chat channel system |
| 07:42.34 | Fisker-- | you can play with more than 2 people in a team |
| 07:42.43 | syeren | And it doesn't effect 5v5. |
| 07:42.44 | Antiarc | So |
| 07:42.52 | Antiarc | I was all excited because I just dropped eng for herbing |
| 07:42.56 | Antiarc | And now I can pick fadeleaf |
| 07:42.59 | syeren | 3v3 you normally have a buck up middle class. |
| 07:43.00 | Antiarc | And now I don't need it anymore |
| 07:43.29 | ckknight | Mac Options, cool |
| 07:43.30 | syeren | *back |
| 07:43.33 | Arrowmaster | hey they added /woot and /rawr emotes |
| 07:44.06 | Fisker-- | hoho Antiarc i never gave into their herbalis demands |
| 07:44.07 | Fisker-- | oh wait |
| 07:44.12 | Fisker-- | i did :( |
| 07:44.21 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: no, they're just new aliases for /roar and /cheer |
| 07:44.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know, oh so useful |
| 07:44.42 | Arrowmaster | +ERROR_SLASH_LOOT_SETTHRESHOLD = "Appropriate format is /threshold x where x is a number between %d and %d, inclusive."; |
| 07:44.56 | *** join/#wowace Mok724 (n=Miranda@p54BAF83F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:44.57 | krka | wait... it's going from 2.1.3 to 0.2.0? O_o |
| 07:45.04 | vhaarr | krka: PTR patch? |
| 07:45.12 | krka | i see |
| 07:45.21 | Fisker-- | it's a shame they removed support for white itamz |
| 07:45.23 | Fisker-- | and greys |
| 07:45.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:45.44 | Arrowmaster | they should just fix the vashj fight imho instead of nerfing loot threshold |
| 07:45.45 | cnc|work | Antiarc |
| 07:45.50 | cnc|work | I had something to ask you yesterday |
| 07:46.38 | *** join/#wowace Mudkipz (n=Yumm@71-9-79-184.static.hspr.ca.charter.com) |
| 07:46.41 | vhaarr | lol |
| 07:46.45 | vhaarr | there's a VU meter builtin? |
| 07:46.47 | Funkeh` | diff hosted anywhere yet? ^^ |
| 07:46.52 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: yes |
| 07:46.54 | vhaarr | http://pastey.net/70725 |
| 07:46.56 | cnc|work | Antiarc, what addon did you write again ? :p |
| 07:46.57 | Funkeh` | awesome |
| 07:47.28 | Adirelle|Work | "VU meter" |
| 07:47.30 | Adirelle|Work | ? |
| 07:47.32 | Antiarc | Sanity, Omen, Hemlock, HiveMind ? |
| 07:48.41 | evl | Any clues as to if Voice Chat will be in 2.2? |
| 07:48.53 | cnc|work | oh yes, Antiarc, a question about Omen |
| 07:49.04 | Antiarc | sure |
| 07:49.19 | cnc|work | does it include power gain threat from holy shield ? I couldnt find that anywhere in the code and its a selbuff every 10 secs |
| 07:49.36 | Antiarc | It doesn't have threat for the buff, no |
| 07:49.40 | Antiarc | Have data on how much it is? |
| 07:49.52 | cnc|work | could probably get it |
| 07:49.55 | cnc|work | if you tell me how |
| 07:50.31 | Antiarc | Body pull a mob, pop it, cancel it, have a caster melee the mob till they pull aggro. Take the caster's damage, divide by 1.1, and that's the approximate threat value |
| 07:50.52 | cnc|work | problem |
| 07:51.00 | cnc|work | getting hit by a mob causes threat while holy shield is active |
| 07:51.04 | cnc|work | oh, cancel it |
| 07:51.05 | Antiarc | Only if you block |
| 07:51.10 | Antiarc | Yeah, that's why you cancel it |
| 07:51.14 | cnc|work | will do |
| 07:51.14 | ckknight | evl: it will be |
| 07:51.14 | Antiarc | Or just turn your back to the mob |
| 07:51.21 | *** join/#wowace Bam__ (n=pervel@0x573c0536.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 07:51.37 | cnc|work | Antiarc, any other stuff you lack for paladins ? |
| 07:51.41 | cnc|work | I'll get everything :p |
| 07:51.47 | Fisker-- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoW0.2/ <-0.2.0 ptr patch btw enGB and enUS, going to do some work now so i'll be afk |
| 07:51.50 | Antiarc | Seal and blessing threat values |
| 07:51.55 | cnc|work | will get em |
| 07:51.58 | Antiarc | Different ranks are different amounts of threat :x |
| 07:52.00 | cnc|work | I'm wondering if reckoning procs give power gain thhreat |
| 07:52.09 | Antiarc | Make sure you test without Salvation or Righteous Fury |
| 07:52.12 | cnc|work | and redoubt procs |
| 07:52.32 | Bam__ | can console options be dynamic similar to making dynamic Dewdrop options? |
| 07:52.53 | vhaarr | Bam__: It's just a table. |
| 07:52.58 | vhaarr | do with it what you want |
| 07:53.17 | Bam__ | and it can be modified after it has been registered? |
| 07:53.37 | Antiarc | yes |
| 07:53.42 | Bam__ | cool |
| 07:53.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Note to all: WoWWiki can now be edited without registering - hope it makes it easier for people to make updates :) |
| 07:54.06 | Antiarc | Kirkburn|afk: Shitcock. |
| 07:54.11 | Antiarc | :P |
| 07:54.11 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 07:54.15 | Bam__ | hmm just wondering then... why does Dewdrop need something like FeedAceOptions? |
| 07:54.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm surprised how quickly we're getting people editing |
| 07:54.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Apparently there were a lot of people who couldn't be bothered with registering |
| 07:54.53 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: I was that way for a few things. |
| 07:55.26 | cnc|work | Kirkburn|afk, wouldnt that make it easyer to spam with a dynamic IP too ? |
| 07:55.35 | Arrowmaster | Kirkburn|afk: does that mean i can edit without confirming my email now? |
| 07:55.36 | Kirkburn|afk | We've got captcha |
| 07:55.47 | Kirkburn|afk | (for external links) |
| 07:56.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Arrowmaster, not certain |
| 07:56.23 | Kirkburn|afk | I think email confirmation on accounts was disabled |
| 07:56.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, we now have the ability to edit and augment the CSS/JS, and you can make your own CSS/JS |
| 07:57.41 | Antiarc | Making your own JS seems dangerous |
| 07:57.44 | Kirkburn|afk | And there's a whole list of other things now on the Wikia tracking system to be added :) |
| 07:58.33 | Arrowmaster | i hope youve limited the amount of stuff unregistered users can edit |
| 07:58.33 | Kirkburn|afk | My js switches the Google search for the proper MediaWiki one and adds CSS and JS links to the personal links bar |
| 07:58.45 | Kirkburn|afk | You can't create pages, for one |
| 07:58.55 | cnc|work | 6h30 mins ! |
| 07:59.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Unregistered you can't: edit semi-protected pages, upload images, move pages, create articles or customize the site design |
| 07:59.58 | cnc|work | Kirkburn|afk, semi-protected = ? |
| 08:00.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Pages that unregistered users can't edit >_> |
| 08:01.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I have to say I am LOVING the ability to edit the CSS |
| 08:01.31 | Kirkburn|afk | I really want to make some changed to the overall skin too |
| 08:01.51 | Kirkburn|afk | I've already ninja'd one change for registered users (see if you can spot it) |
| 08:02.04 | Kirkburn|afk | (it's on every pages. And it's yellow) |
| 08:02.26 | MentalPower|ZzZz | border on "article" |
| 08:02.54 | MentalPower|ZzZz | (at the top) |
| 08:04.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope |
| 08:05.55 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43700 10Grid/Grid/ (11 files): |
| 08:05.55 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-22 | _ add locale entries. |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-22 | _ add an option to set the pet color. |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-22 | _ add support for pets for status heals. |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-22 | _ really fix the anchoring of columns. |
| 08:05.57 | CIA-22 | _ fix regression that always hide the party group when not in raid or bg. |
| 08:06.46 | Arrowmaster | Kirkburn|afk: the ! |
| 08:06.54 | Kirkburn|afk | yup :D |
| 08:07.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I just had someone ask me if it meant I had a quest for them |
| 08:07.18 | cnc|work | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 08:07.51 | purl | nargiddley is currently on #wowi-lounge (35m 5s) #wowace (35m 5s), last said: 'Thiana, you want PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED for entering combat'. |
| 08:07.51 | Arrowmaster | noticed it before but didnt remember if it was like that when logged out |
| 08:07.51 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@231.201-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 08:08.09 | cnc|work | 35 mins ago, damn I missed him :p |
| 08:08.18 | Nargiddley | not quite cnc|work :P |
| 08:08.41 | Nargiddley | yay for friday i'll be here more than other nights |
| 08:08.42 | Health | Will Zul'Aman be in 2.2? |
| 08:09.18 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.162.150) |
| 08:09.26 | cnc|work | :o cewl |
| 08:09.33 | cnc|work | Nargiddley, I've been checking the Bagins code |
| 08:10.02 | cnc|work | I quite dont understand it for waterfal, could you pastey me a simple lua function that sets up a waterfall without an aceoptions table ? i'll build from there |
| 08:10.30 | Nargiddley | the framework for the whole thing or just the register ? |
| 08:10.54 | cnc|work | everything |
| 08:11.00 | cnc|work | please :) |
| 08:11.49 | Nargiddley | what i put up last time was a rough framework, where are you getting stuck ? |
| 08:12.32 | cnc|work | I dont understand some lines in the baggins code |
| 08:12.39 | cnc|work | and I also lost the chatlog of yesterday -.- |
| 08:12.46 | cnc|work | (the later being what i'm stuck at mainly) |
| 08:13.06 | ckknight | Health: possibly. |
| 08:13.11 | ckknight | Health: I see it as likely |
| 08:13.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Arrowmaster, I've changed it to something less confusing :) |
| 08:13.23 | cnc|work | there's no zul'aman in the PTR |
| 08:13.27 | cnc|work | its not even mentioned in the notes |
| 08:13.38 | cnc|work | so why u think that ckknight ? |
| 08:13.42 | Arrowmaster | Kirkburn|afk: not bad |
| 08:13.52 | Health | ckknight: Nice. One can not get enough Forest Trolls. |
| 08:14.01 | ckknight | cnc|work: because most major versions are content patches |
| 08:14.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Much better than the crappy icon it has before :P |
| 08:14.07 | ckknight | without it, there'd be no real content addition |
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| 08:14.15 | Funkeh` | erm |
| 08:14.21 | ckknight | also, there's talk about the details of Zul'Aman |
| 08:14.22 | Funkeh` | i don't see voice mentioned in the notes either |
| 08:14.25 | Funkeh` | or guild banks |
| 08:14.26 | ckknight | it being 10-man, etc. |
| 08:14.29 | Funkeh` | but apparently they are in |
| 08:14.36 | ckknight | Funkeh`: it's in framexml |
| 08:14.42 | ckknight | so really, I see Zul'Aman coming it |
| 08:14.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, well, I don't see YOUR MOM in the notes, but hey :O |
| 08:14.42 | cnc|work | true ckknight, I wonder why they put an incomplete patch online though |
| 08:14.44 | ckknight | in* |
| 08:14.52 | ckknight | cnc|work: it's PTR. |
| 08:14.59 | Funkeh` | Kirkburn|afk: its ok, i saw your dad instead |
| 08:15.28 | cnc|work | ckknight, I wonder what else they gonna put up, hopefully some promessed buffs to some classes |
| 08:15.40 | ckknight | promised |
| 08:15.45 | ckknight | they buffed Pallies kinda |
| 08:15.55 | ckknight | blessings are longer |
| 08:16.07 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 08:16.08 | evl | or |
| 08:16.09 | Funkeh` | that fucking rocks |
| 08:16.11 | evl | they buffed Raids. |
| 08:16.12 | Funkeh` | 30 min buffs |
| 08:16.14 | evl | in general |
| 08:16.15 | Funkeh` | its like <3 |
| 08:16.23 | evl | the amount of time spent on reblessing is... silly |
| 08:16.32 | evl | one person goes afk for 3 min you have to renew all |
| 08:16.40 | Arrowmaster | 10 minute single buffs, maybe ill get back to leveling my paladin again now |
| 08:18.45 | cnc|work | thats a buff ? :o |
| 08:19.01 | cnc|work | it just allows pally's to stand outside the instance now while more usefull classes do the job :p |
| 08:19.18 | cnc|work | as extra blessings are the main reason you take paladins |
| 08:19.54 | Peoii | cnc|work: We bring em cause they're the single-best single target healers in the game :P |
| 08:20.14 | syeren | Druuuuids. |
| 08:20.14 | Peoii | Blessings are a side benefit of having them around... |
| 08:20.22 | Peoii | Eh, druids are better as feral imho. |
| 08:20.28 | Peoii | Much more utility |
| 08:20.43 | cnc|work | Peoii, i'm no healer pala so :) |
| 08:20.43 | syeren | Well they're better single targets by HPM alone. |
| 08:21.31 | Peoii | cnc|work: hehe |
| 08:23.40 | ckknight | moveFrames is broken in 2.2 |
| 08:27.32 | Funkeh` | they tweaked a few frames like durability as far as i saw |
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| 08:30.05 | Antiarc | ckknight: You should write a CC break alerter |
| 08:30.17 | Antiarc | Call it WelshWatcher. It'll tell you who's screwing your sheep. Baa. |
| 08:30.26 | ckknight | ... |
| 08:30.34 | ckknight | that's insensitive to Welshmen |
| 08:30.36 | Antiarc | (I say this because Chesible is Welsh) |
| 08:32.00 | ckknight | okay, I went through the entire diff |
| 08:32.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Sexeh: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Kb_MainPage_CSS.png |
| 08:32.23 | yacoob | hm |
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| 08:32.32 | yacoob | why wouldn't wowace move to wikia? |
| 08:32.49 | Antiarc | Is Mediawiki passe these days? |
| 08:33.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Antiarc, definately not! |
| 08:33.25 | yacoob | it's sometimes put into places where it shouldn't be, otherwise, it's fine piece of software |
| 08:33.31 | Antiarc | perhaps I misunderstood - wikia is or is not a mediawiki competitor? |
| 08:33.38 | yacoob | is not |
| 08:33.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Nah, MW is the software |
| 08:33.49 | yacoob | wikia is the company, mediawiki is the software |
| 08:34.26 | Kirkburn|afk | And Wikia are independent of the software creators and Wikipedia |
| 08:34.42 | ckknight | okay, I forced the chat tab in the friends frame to be enabled |
| 08:34.45 | Antiarc | Aaaaha, okay. |
| 08:34.48 | ckknight | and it actually looks like a damn nice interface |
| 08:34.57 | Antiarc | screenshot? |
| 08:35.19 | Kirkburn|afk | As for wowace and ww, I wouldn't have said the wiki was in a position to offer it - and probably still not |
| 08:35.20 | ckknight | logged out |
| 08:35.31 | ckknight | Antiarc: I could make a movie, though... |
| 08:35.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Got a fair bit more of work to do with Wikia anyway |
| 08:35.38 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r43701 10ArkInventory/Locale/koKR.lua: |
| 08:35.38 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:35.38 | CIA-22 | - Fixed localization koKR |
| 08:35.41 | ckknight | by pressing ], then ] again |
| 08:35.59 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:36.03 | ckknight | I logged out, though |
| 08:36.14 | ckknight | Antiarc: looks like we'll be able to have voice chat throughout all of gog |
| 08:36.21 | Antiarc | srsly? That's hot. |
| 08:36.26 | ckknight | you choose what channel you're listening to |
| 08:36.27 | Antiarc | I was worried about that |
| 08:36.29 | Antiarc | Awesome. |
| 08:36.32 | ckknight | party/raid/battleground |
| 08:36.36 | ckknight | or guild/custom |
| 08:36.40 | ckknight | basically, that's your choices |
| 08:36.48 | ckknight | general/trade/etc. don't have voice. |
| 08:37.10 | ckknight | oh, there might also be officer, don't know |
| 08:38.06 | ckknight | actually I'm not 100% sure about guild chat, but I think so |
| 08:38.13 | ckknight | I just am not in a guild, is all |
| 08:38.41 | cncfanatics | the allmighty ckknight is guildless ? :o |
| 08:39.13 | ckknight | in PTR |
| 08:39.22 | ckknight | I'm in Antiarc's guild in normal WoW |
| 08:39.58 | Arrowmaster | isnt that a raiding guild? |
| 08:40.17 | Antiarc | raiding-if-you-want-to guild |
| 08:40.38 | ckknight | I mostly hang out and test mods |
| 08:40.48 | ckknight | I've yet to actually play |
| 08:40.51 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 08:40.53 | Arrowmaster | you should take ckk to MC if he ever gets to lvl 55 |
| 08:41.46 | cncfanatics | lol ckk |
| 08:41.54 | cncfanatics | get a 70 and enjoy some endgame |
| 08:42.03 | ckknight | I'm 39 now |
| 08:42.07 | ckknight | that's over half-way |
| 08:42.12 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 08:42.16 | Antiarc | That's probably like 1/4th of the way, actually |
| 08:42.20 | Antiarc | >_> |
| 08:42.20 | cncfanatics | less |
| 08:42.20 | Mikk | "cnc|workas extra blessings are the main reason you take paladins" |
| 08:42.24 | Mikk | lol? |
| 08:42.31 | Mikk | i'll take paladin healers over other healers any day of the week in a raid |
| 08:42.39 | Antiarc | I take paladins for the phat 9k heals. |
| 08:42.41 | cncfanatics | Mikk, i'm not talking about the holy tree |
| 08:42.50 | cncfanatics | holy is fine, other two aren't :p |
| 08:42.53 | nevcairiel | we only take 3 pallys because of the blessings, we would take less :p |
| 08:43.02 | Mikk | o.O |
| 08:43.04 | ckknight | I was being sarcastic, btw |
| 08:43.13 | cncfanatics | told ya ;) |
| 08:44.12 | nevcairiel | i dun really care what type of healers we have in our raid, but we force pallys to 3 or more because of the blessings |
| 08:44.15 | nevcairiel | not for any other reason |
| 08:44.37 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, ever thought about taking pally's as tanks/dps ? |
| 08:44.51 | nevcairiel | pally dps is just lol |
| 08:45.35 | cncfanatics | think this proves my point |
| 08:45.38 | cncfanatics | btw, nevcairiel, ur wrong |
| 08:46.01 | cncfanatics | taking one retri pally instead of another class will actualy up raid dps |
| 08:46.05 | cncfanatics | but most ppl are blind lol |
| 08:46.10 | nevcairiel | i suppose you play a pewpew pally? :P |
| 08:46.14 | cncfanatics | tankadin |
| 08:46.30 | cncfanatics | what was that armory command again ? |
| 08:46.33 | cncfanatics | for chat |
| 08:46.40 | cncfanatics | !armory eu evolve khadgar |
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| 08:46.48 | Punkie` | its !char i think |
| 08:46.56 | cncfanatics | !char eu evolve khadgar |
| 08:46.57 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 08:47.03 | Diao | char us/eu server charname |
| 08:47.04 | Diao | i think |
| 08:47.11 | cncfanatics | !char eu khadgar evolve |
| 08:47.14 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 12047 HP; 4548 Mana; 81 mana regen; 14002 Armour; 5.09% melee crit; 15 spell crit rating; 234 +spell dmg/heal; 313 defense; 19.36% dodge; 21.1% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27evs8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sm7vw ]] |
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| 08:47.32 | nevcairiel | its always the pallys who try to tell everyone else that retri is useful |
| 08:47.32 | nevcairiel | not anyone else ever says that |
| 08:47.42 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, there's maths stickied on pally forum |
| 08:47.55 | Diao | what do ret pallies have |
| 08:47.55 | cncfanatics | maths > random oppinions , sorry :) |
| 08:48.00 | Iceroth | iirc someone said the math is flawed |
| 08:48.00 | Diao | aside from sanc crus |
| 08:48.03 | Diao | to boost raid dps |
| 08:48.17 | Iceroth | the raid dps boost isn't as high as the sticky suggests |
| 08:48.17 | cncfanatics | Sanctity aura to boost party dps, but its way too weak |
| 08:48.17 | nevcairiel | math is circumstancial at best |
| 08:48.26 | Diao | sanc aura doesn't boost party dps o_O |
| 08:48.33 | Diao | it only affects holy damage |
| 08:48.39 | cncfanatics | search what improved sanctity aura does |
| 08:48.46 | Diao | did they change it |
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| 08:48.51 | cncfanatics | yea they did |
| 08:48.54 | Diao | the last time i grouped with a ret pally it increased healing done |
| 08:48.56 | Diao | or something |
| 08:48.57 | Punkie` | cncfanatics: there are no perfect fights that that math can really be applied too |
| 08:49.01 | cncfanatics | 2% dps boost to everyone in the party, its weak though |
| 08:49.05 | Diao | oh |
| 08:49.13 | Diao | that's some terrible justification |
| 08:49.14 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 08:49.18 | Punkie` | patchwerk perhaps |
| 08:49.20 | ckknight | !char us cenarion circle glenda |
| 08:49.20 | Punkie` | but yeah, thats old |
| 08:49.22 | Diao | that's like bringing an arms warrior for the blood frenzy |
| 08:49.23 | ThraeBot | ckknight: Glenda, Level 39 Draenei Paladin (0/30/0). 1867 HP; 1775 Mana; 83 mana regen; 3446 Armour; 395 AP; 6.87% melee crit; 15 +heal; 5.19% dodge; 4.96% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xekly ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ejfnh ]] |
| 08:49.31 | cncfanatics | Diao, Nubihum does that |
| 08:49.38 | ckknight | that's me ;-) |
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| 08:49.47 | ckknight | also, you misspelled Armor |
| 08:49.54 | Diao | european spelling |
| 08:49.54 | Diao | lol |
| 08:50.01 | Punkie` | looks right to me :P |
| 08:50.02 | ckknight | but it's a us realm |
| 08:50.02 | nevcairiel | i dont think ret pallys are useful in raids just now .. but i do am open to change my mind when retri gets buffed |
| 08:50.13 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, suposed to be in 2.2 |
| 08:50.15 | cncfanatics | hoping :p |
| 08:50.28 | Diao | 2.2 patch notes were already released though |
| 08:50.29 | Diao | o_o |
| 08:50.33 | syeren | European spelling? You mean the correct spelling which you guys changed due to your incompetence ;p |
| 08:50.35 | nevcairiel | i didnt see it in there |
| 08:50.46 | Diao | laziness |
| 08:50.48 | Diao | not incompetence |
| 08:50.58 | Diao | :P |
| 08:51.19 | nevcairiel | neither did i see zul'aman, but still hoping |
| 08:52.42 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, its probably incomplete yet, they just want the voice thingy tested |
| 08:53.04 | cncfanatics | I also wouldnt mind prot pally tweaks |
| 08:53.11 | cncfanatics | as most ppl dont consider any paladins except if holy |
| 08:54.30 | nevcairiel | i group with prot pallys |
| 08:54.32 | nevcairiel | just not in raids |
| 08:55.53 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, now tell me why not |
| 08:55.59 | cncfanatics | except "they're paladins" |
| 08:56.19 | Diao | is armory bugged |
| 08:56.24 | Diao | cause i just realized it said you have 313 defense |
| 08:56.31 | nevcairiel | we've had one with viable tanking equip to test with |
| 08:56.37 | nevcairiel | *never had |
| 08:56.38 | cncfanatics | it means defense rating Diaeo |
| 08:56.45 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, thats all ? :o |
| 08:57.08 | nevcairiel | and sine we have enough warriors and ferals |
| 08:57.11 | nevcairiel | we didnt consider looking :P |
| 08:58.10 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, u know the guardians in karazhan ? |
| 08:58.15 | cncfanatics | the packs of two guardians right after curator |
| 08:58.18 | cncfanatics | <3 tanking both of those |
| 08:58.28 | cncfanatics | or tanking horse + attumen on the first boss, or moroes + adds |
| 08:59.58 | syeren | !char eu Dentarg Ausmara |
| 09:00.06 | ThraeBot | syeren: Ausmara, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (28/33/0). 12081 HP; 8910 Mana; 205 mana regen; 67 mp5; 1.19% spell hit; 69 +spell dmg; 1231 +heal; 4.82% dodge; 449 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo72j5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/28tl5p ]] |
| 09:01.48 | cncfanatics | sigh at dwarves |
| 09:01.54 | cncfanatics | WTB horde fear ward ^^ |
| 09:02.30 | Diao | draenei :( |
| 09:03.55 | Fritti | !char eu "Earthen Ring" Ithor |
| 09:03.56 | ThraeBot | Fritti: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 09:04.00 | Fritti | !char eu Earthen Ring Ithor |
| 09:04.04 | ThraeBot | Fritti: Ithor, Level 70 Human Paladin (15/46/0). 11297 HP; 5598 Mana; 131 mana regen; 12245 Armour; 15 mp5; 698 AP; 4.49% melee crit; 176 +spell dmg/heal; 296 defense; 13.37% dodge; 10.8% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytylas ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2342c3 ]] |
| 09:04.12 | Fritti | -> my prot pala :) |
| 09:04.26 | Fritti | I don't raid though |
| 09:04.30 | cncfanatics | Fritti, not bad |
| 09:04.37 | cncfanatics | !char eu Khadgar Evolve |
| 09:04.39 | cncfanatics | thats mine |
| 09:04.41 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 12047 HP; 4548 Mana; 81 mana regen; 14002 Armour; 5.09% melee crit; 15 spell crit rating; 234 +spell dmg/heal; 313 defense; 19.36% dodge; 21.1% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw4pdf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/yskytb ]] |
| 09:04.44 | cncfanatics | weird spec for a prot |
| 09:05.01 | Fritti | I usually only tank 5mans |
| 09:05.12 | cncfanatics | karazhan here, needed parry talent from ret :) |
| 09:05.13 | Fritti | which means that I need more mana than a raid prot tank |
| 09:05.19 | Fritti | yeah, I'm considering respeccing for that |
| 09:05.30 | cncfanatics | the extra mana should come from gear tbh |
| 09:05.31 | Fritti | first time kara run coming up soon(ish) |
| 09:05.36 | cncfanatics | ur MT'ing ? |
| 09:05.41 | Mikk | hf tanking maiden in kara with a pally :P |
| 09:05.46 | cncfanatics | Mikk, I did it |
| 09:05.46 | Fritti | I don't think so, but I'd love to :) |
| 09:05.51 | cncfanatics | the silence is a no-issue tbh |
| 09:05.58 | cncfanatics | its way exagerated |
| 09:05.59 | Mikk | i was more thinking the immunity to holy damage |
| 09:06.05 | cncfanatics | she aint immune to holy dmg |
| 09:06.09 | cncfanatics | what are u talking about ? |
| 09:06.09 | Mikk | :O |
| 09:06.13 | Mikk | they nerfed her? |
| 09:06.18 | cncfanatics | she never was |
| 09:06.41 | Mikk | weird. could have sworn she was immune to holy. |
| 09:06.42 | cncfanatics | heck, no boss in the world is immune to holy dmg, not even the magic immune twin emperor |
| 09:07.21 | Mikk | then again i don't remember WHY i'm remembering that. could have been someone smoking too much weed that told me that. |
| 09:08.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk, you like? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Kb_MainPage_CSS.png |
| 09:08.39 | cncfanatics | Kirkburn|afk? TOO MUCH KITTENS |
| 09:08.51 | Kirkburn|afk | haha |
| 09:10.44 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r43702 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: Added deDE localization |
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| 09:12.08 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: NOT ENOUGH KITTENS |
| 09:12.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Hate you all |
| 09:12.57 | Mikk | too many diagonal stripes :P |
| 09:13.05 | cncfanatics | too many Kirkburns |
| 09:13.31 | Mikk | go get me t-shirt photos already! :> |
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| 09:13.43 | cncfanatics | paladin forums are going berserk lol |
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| 09:15.52 | sbu | oh wtf, 2.2 ptr? |
| 09:16.42 | cncfanatics | yea, paladin nerfs and they're going berserk on forums, as every patch :/ |
| 09:16.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Whats' the toc? |
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| 09:16.53 | cncfanatics | cant check, i'm at work |
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| 09:17.40 | abbat_w | hi guys |
| 09:17.52 | nevcairiel | 20200 |
| 09:17.55 | nevcairiel | @ Kirkburn|afk |
| 09:18.07 | Kirkburn|afk | ta |
| 09:18.22 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, how bt4? :) |
| 09:18.23 | sbu | paladin nerf again? :p |
| 09:18.40 | sbu | cncfanatics: mh - patchnotes? |
| 09:19.29 | sbu | ah got it |
| 09:19.30 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: when i find time :p |
| 09:20.26 | abbat_w | btw |
| 09:20.40 | abbat_w | http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/7/11/f_WoWScrnShotm_1fb11d7.jpg |
| 09:20.52 | abbat_w | this is my ui. bt3, pitbull, eepanels |
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| 09:21.15 | abbat_w | also quartz (hidden now) ;) |
| 09:21.50 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.03 | Diao | fb2? |
| 09:22.36 | abbat_w | fb2? |
| 09:22.51 | sbu | uhm |
| 09:22.55 | sbu | cncfanatics |
| 09:22.55 | sbu | • Greater Blessing of Kings, Light, Might, Salvation, Sanctuary and Wisdom increased to 30 minutes. |
| 09:22.55 | nevcairiel | but fubar2 is actually finished |
| 09:22.56 | sbu | thats great? :P |
| 09:22.57 | abbat_w | I found what bt3 + cyCircled:Vol looks incredible nice |
| 09:23.12 | abbat_w | sbu, sure ;) |
| 09:23.40 | abbat_w | sbu, imagine if mage for exaple buff you with AI just for 5 min ;) |
| 09:23.45 | abbat_w | and need to rebuff every 5 min |
| 09:24.29 | cncfanatics | sbu, I know |
| 09:24.32 | cncfanatics | Its ok |
| 09:24.40 | cncfanatics | I like the non greater blessing to 10 mins more |
| 09:24.46 | cncfanatics | cuz I'll still ahve to single bless most hybrids |
| 09:24.51 | cncfanatics | and myself :p |
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| 09:26.02 | poull | Can anyone briefly explain the difference between the branches and tags folder at svn to me? :) |
| 09:26.21 | Guillotine | anybody know how to access _G as a normal table? |
| 09:26.26 | Mikk | tags = snapshot of how something looked at some point in time (usually for releases) |
| 09:26.30 | Antiarc | tags are bookmarks, basically |
| 09:26.31 | Mikk | branches = alternative branch of development |
| 09:26.32 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r43703 10/branches/Bartender3/ (. nevcairiel/): Bartender3: added branch for 2.2 stuff and general cleanup |
| 09:26.41 | Mikk | never edit stuff in /tags |
| 09:26.48 | Mikk | you _CAN_, but you never should |
| 09:27.16 | sbu | cncfanatics: and where is the nerf? :p |
| 09:27.17 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07nevcairiel * r43704 10Bartender3/Bartender3/: Bartender3: actual branching |
| 09:27.20 | poull | So if i want to experiement with exportning some of an addons functionality to a library, it should be put in branches? |
| 09:27.28 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 09:27.46 | poull | Thanks :) |
| 09:27.48 | cncfanatics | Antiarc ! |
| 09:27.53 | Antiarc | Yo |
| 09:27.53 | cncfanatics | I remember another thing I wanted to ask |
| 09:27.56 | Antiarc | ? |
| 09:28.04 | cncfanatics | ur the author of threat-1.0 right ? |
| 09:28.09 | Antiarc | Mostly, yeah |
| 09:28.22 | cncfanatics | Would it be possible for threat-1.0 to keep threat data per ability ? |
| 09:28.31 | Antiarc | Store it, you mean? |
| 09:28.32 | cncfanatics | I would like to know what generates most threat over an encounter |
| 09:28.41 | cncfanatics | Yea, store it and be able to access it somehow |
| 09:28.54 | Antiarc | I opted against that for memory reasons, but it wouldn't be hard to add at all |
| 09:28.57 | cncfanatics | a power gains section, then one per ability used would be nice |
| 09:29.03 | cncfanatics | make it optional then ? |
| 09:29.10 | cncfanatics | and don't record the data by default |
| 09:29.19 | Antiarc | That's a thought |
| 09:29.32 | cncfanatics | would be nice also for omen to have a live meter of that like it currently does for threat |
| 09:29.38 | cncfanatics | holy shield - x TPS |
| 09:29.55 | cncfanatics | power gains - x TPS |
| 09:29.55 | cncfanatics | etc |
| 09:29.55 | Health | How interesting.. |
| 09:29.55 | Health | .. |
| 09:29.55 | Health | not! |
| 09:30.05 | cncfanatics | Health, it matters for a paladin when u dont have enough mana to drop the ability that does the least tps atm |
| 09:30.14 | cncfanatics | and ability TPS matters on what is currently hitting you, so it damn does: |
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| 09:31.39 | cncfanatics | also think it could matter for druids/warriors to see what ability to drop when lacking rage ? |
| 09:31.48 | CIA-22 | 03poull 07poull * r43705 10SmartRes/: SmartRes: Making it oRA2 independent by adding library |
| 09:32.15 | Dustwhisper | you should know that by heart and calculate in realtime in your head =D |
| 09:32.33 | Antiarc | Well, most good tanks know what kind of threat their abilties do |
| 09:32.46 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, problem with tank threat is that, on a slow hitting mob for example |
| 09:32.54 | cncfanatics | holy shield will do less then half the threat then on a fast hitting mob |
| 09:33.01 | Guillotine | ya, pallys have it wierd |
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| 09:33.17 | cncfanatics | then relativly, I'd want to downrank that instead of my others |
| 09:33.25 | Dustwhisper | palytanks |
| 09:33.29 | Dustwhisper | in a 5man threat doesnt matter |
| 09:33.38 | cncfanatics | who says 5mans ? |
| 09:33.39 | Dustwhisper | in a 25man raid a palidans are holyspecced |
| 09:33.48 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, i'm not asking ur oppinion |
| 09:34.09 | Guillotine | nah. our guild has 3 kara groups. G1 has pally MT, G2 has druid MT, G3 has pally MT. and same tanks on gruul's SSC |
| 09:34.31 | Diao | warriors don't have rage problems in raid situations :P |
| 09:34.32 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, paladin dont tank in 25 mans cuz of close minded idiots like you tbh |
| 09:34.41 | Dustwhisper | or |
| 09:34.43 | Dustwhisper | cause they can't mostly |
| 09:34.43 | cncfanatics | Diao, paladins dont have mana problems in a raid situation |
| 09:34.54 | Diao | so why do you need to know what to drop o_o |
| 09:34.55 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, reasons, except "they're paladins" |
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| 09:34.59 | Antiarc | Paladins don't tank in 25-mans because they have much lower HP than druids/warriors, usually. |
| 09:35.01 | Guillotine | anyway, nobody knows how to access _G like a normal table? (e.g. perform pairs or ipairs on it)? |
| 09:35.08 | Antiarc | And 25-man tanking is all about the almighty HP buffer |
| 09:35.16 | cncfanatics | Diao, cuz sometimes (mainly in karazhan as I overgear the place) I have to spare mana |
| 09:35.20 | Guillotine | ya, but they DO get ~97% block |
| 09:35.33 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, not really, 1k base HP aint much |
| 09:35.34 | Guillotine | which makes up for the lost HP |
| 09:35.43 | Thelyna | Antiarc: yep, paladins start off with 1200hp less than warriors, and due to stat dilution it only gets worse |
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| 09:35.52 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: Our prot wars and feral druids sit at close to 20k HP raidbuffed |
| 09:35.56 | Diao | especially against tauren >.> |
| 09:36.08 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, I sit at 12k unbuffed with 2 pieces of kara gear |
| 09:36.09 | Thelyna | raiding is all about minimising your chance of failure |
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| 09:36.20 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, raiding is about having fun :) |
| 09:36.41 | Thelyna | true, it depends on your point of view |
| 09:37.12 | Thelyna | but *if* your guild is all about getting the newest phattest epics ASAP, then paladin tanking is just an additional risk |
| 09:37.22 | Antiarc | On Gruul, you want high HP. Uncrushability matters a whole lot less than the fact that that uncrushable hurtful is going to hit like a truck at 10+ grows |
| 09:37.37 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, hurtfull aint gonna get the MT is it? |
| 09:37.43 | cncfanatics | and crushes from gruul are going to HURT |
| 09:37.52 | Dustwhisper | no not really |
| 09:37.56 | Dustwhisper | they happen once in a blue moon |
| 09:37.57 | Thelyna | our MT got a 13k crushing from gruul last week >.> |
| 09:38.08 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, but if they happen they make ouch |
| 09:38.09 | Guillotine | but blocked hits can't be crushings |
| 09:38.15 | Thelyna | directly after a reverb too |
| 09:38.17 | Guillotine | and paladins can get up to 98% block |
| 09:38.30 | evl | a druid in decent gear can tank Gruul alone also taking the secondary tank blow :P |
| 09:38.31 | Thelyna | paladins can be uncrushable in pre-raid gear |
| 09:38.34 | Diao | 98% block is pointless |
| 09:38.34 | cncfanatics | Guillotine, so can warriors, only for 2 hits / 5 sec though |
| 09:38.41 | Thelyna | *but* that relies on holy shield being up |
| 09:38.46 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, i'm uncrushable in preraid gear |
| 09:38.48 | Guillotine | right. but a pally is for most of the time |
| 09:38.52 | Antiarc | Warriors also have -10% to all incoming damage, which is huge. |
| 09:38.52 | cncfanatics | and there is a sticky on paladin forums on how to get tha |
| 09:38.53 | Diao | anything over like 60% block is useless |
| 09:38.58 | Thelyna | and holy shield *will* be down at some point |
| 09:39.06 | Thelyna | because cooldown == duration |
| 09:39.14 | Antiarc | Defensive stance is basically +10% HP to the warrior. *shrug* |
| 09:39.19 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, nope |
| 09:39.22 | cncfanatics | its after armor |
| 09:39.31 | cncfanatics | so its more a 6% less dmg with 60% DR (thats normal) |
| 09:39.34 | Guillotine | but if you're getting hit fast enough for it to run out, the other thing will proc |
| 09:39.52 | Dustwhisper | no need paladin tanks except for AOE |
| 09:39.53 | Dustwhisper | eod |
| 09:40.02 | Dustwhisper | no need retadins either |
| 09:40.09 | Thelyna | no, holy shield will expire, but then you have downtime equal to your latency |
| 09:40.22 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, true that, blizz shld fix that tbh |
| 09:40.35 | Thelyna | not to mention reverb + holy shield down = owie. |
| 09:40.40 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, let us have our fun and get back to ur HC close minded raiding guild about getting phat purplz -.- |
| 09:40.43 | Thelyna | or HS dropping during reverb |
| 09:40.48 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, u can time it |
| 09:41.14 | Thelyna | sure, but in order to juggle the timer that means you have to leave holy shield down at some other point |
| 09:41.15 | Dustwhisper | you might be having fun |
| 09:41.18 | Fritti | re uncrushable paladin tanks, is it really necessary to be uncrushable before tanking kara? |
| 09:41.20 | Dustwhisper | but do you think your guild has fun |
| 09:41.24 | Dustwhisper | when you cant kill a boss |
| 09:41.27 | Dustwhisper | cause the palidan dies all the time |
| 09:41.28 | Thelyna | and also the timers aren't always accurate |
| 09:41.31 | syeren | Dustwhisper, you're not in Nihilum, therefor you don't matter. |
| 09:41.32 | Fritti | (I can see where Gruul etc hurt) |
| 09:41.34 | syeren | Problem solved. |
| 09:41.37 | Dustwhisper | or cant generate enough threat =D |
| 09:41.48 | syeren | Being the progress minded guild who isn't Nihilum is pointless. |
| 09:41.49 | syeren | ;p |
| 09:42.00 | Fritti | a paladin tank who can't generate enough threat? |
| 09:42.12 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, why would the paladin die all the time ? |
| 09:42.19 | Thelyna | Fritti: you definitely have to be uncrushable for prince |
| 09:42.22 | cncfanatics | if the 1k base HP matters that much then ur guild just totaly sucks |
| 09:42.25 | Thelyna | anything before that you can probably slide with |
| 09:42.34 | Diao | warriors tank prince without being uncrushable for phase 2 >.> |
| 09:42.45 | cncfanatics | Paladins are totaly uncrushable on prince |
| 09:42.48 | Thelyna | I know I've offtanked everything (that needs an offtank) as 41/20 holy |
| 09:42.52 | cncfanatics | never got a crush from him before |
| 09:42.55 | Dustwhisper | at end of phase2 it's a healers job tbh |
| 09:42.57 | Dustwhisper | just layer heals np |
| 09:42.58 | Thelyna | paladins in the right gear you mean, cnc |
| 09:43.00 | Antiarc | Prince attacks -really- fast, esp. in phase 2. Is it even possible to keep holy shield up all the time?> |
| 09:43.06 | Thelyna | yes |
| 09:43.06 | cncfanatics | Thelyne, armory my paladin :p |
| 09:43.12 | Thelyna | excepting latency issues |
| 09:43.15 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, 8 charges per 10 secs, he dsnt hit that fast |
| 09:43.21 | Fritti | Thelyna: hmm, meh, I still need lots more dodge/parry/block then :-S |
| 09:43.23 | Diao | dual wield + thrash? |
| 09:43.27 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, my ping is 43 ms, raraly an issue |
| 09:43.39 | cncfanatics | I live 50km from paris :p |
| 09:43.51 | lolinternet | WHAT |
| 09:43.53 | lolinternet | 2.2 PATCHNOTES? |
| 09:43.55 | Thelyna | if you get hit by every attack in a 10 second span then yes your shield might just run out |
| 09:44.04 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, so will shield block then |
| 09:44.10 | Thelyna | exactly |
| 09:44.11 | cncfanatics | and its gonna hurt a warrior hell a lot more then the paladin |
| 09:44.19 | Thelyna | actually shield block would be down for a full five seconds |
| 09:44.28 | cncfanatics | thats 3-4 potential crushes |
| 09:44.32 | Thelyna | since holy shield has twice as many charges |
| 09:44.33 | Diao | i've seen a ss |
| 09:44.34 | cncfanatics | a paladin would probably get a max of 1-2 |
| 09:44.40 | Diao | of a thrash doing 13k->0 hp |
| 09:44.43 | Diao | instantly |
| 09:44.44 | Diao | lol |
| 09:44.50 | cncfanatics | Diao, thats crushing for sure |
| 09:45.12 | Thelyna | I'm not even prot spec and I have 11.7k unbuffed, like 15.6k with full raid buffs |
| 09:45.16 | Diao | it was like |
| 09:45.22 | Diao | crushing + sundered |
| 09:45.24 | cncfanatics | 12k buffed here thelyna, and uncrushable |
| 09:45.25 | Diao | instant death |
| 09:45.36 | Fritti | Thelyna: with raid gear? |
| 09:45.39 | sag_ich_nicht | holy |
| 09:45.40 | cncfanatics | the uncrushable limits my HP though |
| 09:45.40 | Thelyna | I'm not actually sure if I'm uncrushable |
| 09:45.42 | Fritti | *goes to check out cncfanatics gear* |
| 09:45.43 | sag_ich_nicht | blessing durations DOUBLED |
| 09:45.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Seen the broom mount? |
| 09:45.48 | Antiarc | We had Maexxna kill a tank in between HoT ticks thanks to a thrash crush |
| 09:45.51 | Antiarc | It was stupid. |
| 09:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | holy friggin awesomeness |
| 09:46.02 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/broom-mount.jpg |
| 09:46.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 09:46.24 | Thelyna | Fritti: only piece of raid gear I have are T4 shoulders, unless you count karazhan as a raid, in which case I have shoulders and moroes' trinket |
| 09:46.42 | Dustwhisper | why would you shieldblock on prince? |
| 09:46.44 | Thelyna | but I've stacked stamina so I'm probably not uncrushable |
| 09:47.01 | cncfanatics | Dushwhisper, to not get 8 crushings in a row ? |
| 09:47.07 | Diao | because prince is deadly if you don't |
| 09:47.09 | Thelyna | Dustwhisper: because if you don't massively outgear him he *will* gib a warrior in p2 |
| 09:47.16 | Thelyna | without shield block that is |
| 09:47.16 | nevcairiel | you should shieldblock on any boss |
| 09:47.20 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:47.20 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 09:47.24 | sag_ich_nicht | AWESOME. |
| 09:47.24 | Dustwhisper | we have never used shieldblock on him |
| 09:47.28 | Fritti | Thelyna: I do, I haven't even started Kara (which is why I asked) |
| 09:47.30 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, I dont on attumen tbh, to help my mana regen |
| 09:47.31 | Diao | he crushes for like 7k |
| 09:47.36 | cncfanatics | Diao, ur a druid ? |
| 09:47.40 | Diao | no |
| 09:47.49 | cncfanatics | Diao, what will happen when he crushes u 3 times at once then ? |
| 09:47.58 | Thelyna | Dustwhisper: your healers must frigging rock then |
| 09:48.14 | cncfanatics | even if they do someday he'll get 3 crushing from offhand + trash |
| 09:48.17 | Thelyna | because prince can hit for upwards of 12k in an instant if shieldblock is down |
| 09:48.19 | cncfanatics | and then even if his healers rock he's dead |
| 09:48.22 | Diao | death if nothing is mitigated |
| 09:48.28 | Diao | esp if he parries any attacks |
| 09:48.35 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 09:48.37 | cncfanatics | immagine thios |
| 09:48.42 | cncfanatics | he parries + trash |
| 09:48.47 | cncfanatics | + a normal attack |
| 09:48.47 | Diao | it's about |
| 09:48.48 | Diao | 20k dmg |
| 09:48.48 | Dustwhisper | we have druids tanking prince without problem at all |
| 09:48.48 | cncfanatics | all crush |
| 09:48.50 | Diao | in 1-2 seconds |
| 09:48.57 | Dustwhisper | actually we have druids maintanking loads of bosses when our warriors are gone |
| 09:48.58 | Diao | if he parries with a thrash |
| 09:49.00 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, they have the armor to handle the crushing though |
| 09:49.06 | cncfanatics | warriors & paladins dont |
| 09:49.12 | Dustwhisper | but we never had issues with warriors on prince |
| 09:49.15 | Antiarc | ac + insane health pools = lolz crushing |
| 09:49.16 | Dustwhisper | without shieldblock |
| 09:49.24 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, then ur healers are godly |
| 09:49.39 | Thelyna | and you're also lucky |
| 09:49.39 | cncfanatics | 20k instant dmg, they outheal it ? |
| 09:49.44 | cncfanatics | god himself is healing them tbh |
| 09:49.45 | Dustwhisper | only on prince, they are useless anywhere else =D |
| 09:49.45 | nevcairiel | we had a warrior who refused to shieldblock on maulgar |
| 09:49.48 | Diao | there's no way your warriors don't use shield black |
| 09:49.50 | nevcairiel | we kicked him then |
| 09:49.54 | Diao | it's the most vital skill to keep up |
| 09:49.58 | Diao | especially since it's off gcd |
| 09:50.06 | Antiarc | Dustwhisper: are you confusing it with shield wall? |
| 09:50.09 | Fritti | how do you know your MT is not using shield block? do you keep an eye on his selfbuffs? |
| 09:50.19 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, 99% sure he is |
| 09:50.33 | Thelyna | I would've thought it'd be relatively obvious ... the MT without shield block would be the dead one most likely |
| 09:50.38 | Fritti | I'm not sure I have time to keep up with MT specific abilities when doing anything else |
| 09:50.40 | Thelyna | on any sort of hard-hitting content |
| 09:50.55 | _icetrain | Fritti: use WWS and check for crushing blows |
| 09:50.57 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, I want to see gruul without shield block tbh |
| 09:51.03 | cncfanatics | at 20 grows |
| 09:51.04 | Thelyna | I don't ;p |
| 09:51.07 | cncfanatics | ^^ |
| 09:51.11 | Diao | 20 grows.. |
| 09:51.17 | Fritti | _icetrain: ah, k, after the raid :) |
| 09:51.22 | Thelyna | and if you let gruul get to 20 grows your DPS should all reroll, or preferably quit the game |
| 09:51.26 | Antiarc | 20 grows? What are you DPSing him with, noodles? |
| 09:51.28 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, indeed hehe |
| 09:51.36 | cncfanatics | was just a number he wld have funny crushes at |
| 09:51.39 | Fritti | 'here gruul, I'll tickle you with this feather' |
| 09:51.40 | cncfanatics | oneshot kinda crushes |
| 09:51.42 | Diao | lol |
| 09:51.51 | Diao | doesn't he start oneshotting at like |
| 09:51.52 | Diao | 16? |
| 09:51.57 | Thelyna | the absolute maximum you can hope to keep any tank up at (with gear from before the content) is 18 |
| 09:51.59 | Antiarc | 15-16, yeah |
| 09:52.11 | Thelyna | our MT last week got killed at 12 |
| 09:52.19 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, unlucky combo ? |
| 09:52.24 | Thelyna | but that's because he forgot to refresh shield block after a reverb |
| 09:52.31 | cncfanatics | forgot ? -.- |
| 09:52.31 | Thelyna | bzzt fail. |
| 09:52.37 | Thelyna | well, it was down |
| 09:52.42 | Thelyna | I should check the death log |
| 09:53.18 | sbu | well we did it with 20 grows (~11 healers... bad setup :p) |
| 09:53.23 | Thelyna | pulling up the WWS |
| 09:53.25 | sbu | but standard is 10-12 grows... |
| 09:53.29 | Thelyna | that's a little lucky sbu |
| 09:53.30 | cncfanatics | sbu, ur tank overgears it then ? |
| 09:53.38 | cncfanatics | cuz he'll get oneshot and healers cant heal that at 20 |
| 09:53.52 | sbu | well - some lucky dodges and stuff |
| 09:54.09 | Dustwhisper | ye an allianceguild on our server killed him 15 man at 21 growths |
| 09:54.09 | cncfanatics | sbu, VERY lucky then |
| 09:54.10 | nevcairiel | hm i dont think i have a wws of gruul |
| 09:54.37 | nevcairiel | we generally dont do him anymore |
| 09:54.53 | Dustwhisper | we do two gruuls a week |
| 09:54.57 | Dustwhisper | on the same evening |
| 09:55.10 | Dustwhisper | our offnight |
| 09:55.24 | Thelyna | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=3ub3dzbqzupqa&s=3254-3762&a=2&dth=0 - can anyone tell me how shield block was down? |
| 09:55.24 | cncfanatics | bleh, my guild just migrated to a new server |
| 09:55.26 | nevcairiel | we focus on ssc and tk :p |
| 09:55.28 | cncfanatics | not everyone followed |
| 09:55.33 | cncfanatics | so we lack ppl for the damn 25 mans |
| 09:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 09:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | okay so they fixed something that was wrong with paladins from the beginning |
| 09:55.45 | Thelyna | gruul hit him once and he refreshed shield block 3s before he took that crushing |
| 09:55.48 | sag_ich_nicht | now where is my ret buff? |
| 09:56.04 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, the patch notes are nowhere near complete in case u didnt notice |
| 09:56.04 | sbu | interesting Thelyna :p |
| 09:56.19 | cncfanatics | there is no content in this "content" patch yet :) |
| 09:56.22 | Thelyna | unless the hit 200ms before he refreshed shield block ate a charge |
| 09:56.24 | sbu | Thelyna: to less % block w/o shieldblock? |
| 09:56.25 | nevcairiel | Thelyna: shieldblock not skilled ? so only 1 attack ? :P |
| 09:56.29 | Dustwhisper | so do we nevcairiel but we only spend 3 nights a week in progressioninstances |
| 09:56.30 | Dustwhisper | or 4 |
| 09:56.32 | sbu | nevcairiel: there is no buff fading |
| 09:56.41 | Megalon | 890Asuran gains 1 Rage from Shield Specialization |
| 09:56.44 | Megalon | 484Asuran gains 1 Rage from Shield Specialization |
| 09:56.49 | Megalon | sb gone |
| 09:56.59 | Thelyna | so I missed an attack? interesting |
| 09:57.02 | Dustwhisper | sunday, monday, tuesday, thursday is progressioninstances, wednesday is offnight so it's 2xgruul and maybe a magtheridon, then friday or saturday is 3-4x karazhan and friday might be progression |
| 09:57.04 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 09:57.06 | Dustwhisper | but our progression is slow |
| 09:57.17 | abbat_w | tonight at arena i see what shaman put fire nova totem from sheep |
| 09:57.22 | abbat_w | how they do this? |
| 09:57.24 | cncfanatics | we just farm karazhan atm with our new recruits from our new server |
| 09:57.32 | cncfanatics | cuz half the raid is new it usualy takes long :( |
| 09:57.32 | Megalon | i also only see one blocked attack |
| 09:57.33 | Megalon | :O |
| 09:57.40 | abbat_w | or my client show me some 'lagged' information? |
| 09:58.26 | Diao | clients always do that |
| 09:58.33 | abbat_w | yep |
| 09:58.34 | Diao | just like in combat log |
| 09:58.36 | Diao | it shows you die |
| 09:58.38 | Diao | before you take damage |
| 09:58.45 | sbu | Dustwhisper: mhh... its gruul, magtheridon, void reaver first day, then lurker + tidewalker - and 2 days for 'new' encounters for us... |
| 09:58.55 | Diao | "you die" "mob hits you for x damage" |
| 09:59.06 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r43706 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Libs/ Optional/Resurrection.lua embeds.xml oRA2.toc): |
| 09:59.06 | CIA-22 | oRA2: |
| 09:59.06 | CIA-22 | - Create a central draggable window handler in Core.lua with standardized feature set, using WindowLib-1.0 |
| 09:59.06 | CIA-22 | - Make Resurrection monitor use the window handler. More to come. |
| 09:59.08 | Dustwhisper | we are learning tidewalker at the moment |
| 09:59.14 | abbat_w | Diao, yep. But i see if this come. But sheep was broken by totem |
| 09:59.18 | cncfanatics | Fitti, you were also a prot pala right ? |
| 09:59.19 | Dustwhisper | first boss since c'thun where tactics are very important |
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| 09:59.22 | Dustwhisper | for us |
| 09:59.37 | cncfanatics | Fritti |
| 09:59.40 | Dustwhisper | we didn't quite have the right positioning on tidewalker |
| 09:59.46 | Dustwhisper | then we had an old guildy come on |
| 09:59.50 | Dustwhisper | that's killed illidan or is on illidan |
| 09:59.56 | Dustwhisper | next attempt we got tide to 26% |
| 10:00.16 | Dustwhisper | just by having him show us the right positions and a couple warlocks specced shadowfury |
| 10:00.26 | Diao | what do you mean by "what shaman put fire nova totem from sheep"? |
| 10:00.50 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper |
| 10:00.56 | cncfanatics | you're on the maghetidon server? |
| 10:00.59 | Dustwhisper | nope |
| 10:01.35 | cncfanatics | what server u on ? not much servers with guilds that are on illidan |
| 10:01.44 | Dustwhisper | i said "an old guildy" |
| 10:01.46 | sbu | mh tidewalker is pretty easy with enough tanks |
| 10:01.46 | Dustwhisper | he is in celebrity |
| 10:01.58 | sbu | just put 1 feral druid tanking the boss - and all other tanks binding those adds |
| 10:02.08 | Dustwhisper | we have warrior on tidewalker |
| 10:02.13 | Dustwhisper | then 1 dru at each add-location |
| 10:02.15 | sbu | 1 prot north, 1 prot south - and 1 fury/ms backup |
| 10:02.20 | Dustwhisper | but in the beginning they didnt tank the adds well enough |
| 10:02.24 | Dustwhisper | and the timing with AOE was a bit off etc |
| 10:02.56 | sbu | well - thunderclap + demoshout > druid tanking - imo |
| 10:03.00 | Dustwhisper | our biggest raidingproblem is tbh |
| 10:03.00 | cncfanatics | someone mention paladins :( |
| 10:03.02 | Dustwhisper | healers |
| 10:03.07 | Dustwhisper | our healers are the biggest spanners in the world |
| 10:03.12 | Dustwhisper | the second people start chatting on VT |
| 10:03.15 | Dustwhisper | they just forget healing |
| 10:03.18 | sag_ich_nicht | paladin tank > all, for multi target tanking |
| 10:03.23 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:03.24 | Dustwhisper | yepp |
| 10:03.27 | sbu | we dont have pally tanks :p |
| 10:03.28 | Dustwhisper | we dont allow paladin tanks |
| 10:03.29 | Dustwhisper | nor retadins |
| 10:03.30 | Megalon | frostnova + consecration = win |
| 10:03.36 | Megalon | don't need prot spec |
| 10:03.42 | Dustwhisper | we tried with holy ones |
| 10:03.43 | Dustwhisper | they died pewpew |
| 10:03.44 | Dustwhisper | =D |
| 10:03.49 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, as I said before, if ur only at that progress level with forced specs u suck :) |
| 10:03.51 | sbu | and i think 2 of our warrior tanks would quit wow if we had pally tanks ;p |
| 10:04.00 | Dustwhisper | That makes no sense cncfanatics |
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| 10:04.01 | Dustwhisper | but ok |
| 10:04.09 | Dustwhisper | ye sbu |
| 10:04.13 | Dustwhisper | we have 7 or 8 warriortanks |
| 10:04.14 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 10:04.16 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 10:04.18 | Dustwhisper | and 3 druids |
| 10:04.19 | Kirkburn|afk | K, we'e renabled email account confirmation on the wowwiki due a single prick :/ |
| 10:04.20 | cncfanatics | thats a damn lot |
| 10:04.24 | sbu | hmm yep |
| 10:04.25 | Dustwhisper | 2 dps warriors aswell |
| 10:04.28 | Dustwhisper | and a dpsdruid |
| 10:04.30 | Dustwhisper | well cncfanatics |
| 10:04.34 | Fritti | cncfanatics: sorry, work, what's your q? |
| 10:04.34 | cncfanatics | make a warrior only karazhan ? ^^ |
| 10:04.35 | Dustwhisper | we run 3-4 karas each week |
| 10:04.37 | Dustwhisper | for alts etc |
| 10:04.42 | sbu | we have like 1 fury, 1 ms, 2 prot, 2 druid |
| 10:04.43 | Dustwhisper | and we run 2x gruul |
| 10:04.46 | cncfanatics | Fritti, you're starting kara soon right ? |
| 10:04.49 | Dustwhisper | we want to do 2x void reaver / 2x magtheridon aswell |
| 10:04.49 | sbu | thats it :p |
| 10:04.50 | Fritti | I intend to |
| 10:04.57 | Fritti | but we have like 4 bear tanks and me |
| 10:05.02 | Fritti | I suspect it'll be the bears who'll MT |
| 10:05.05 | Fritti | one of them anyway |
| 10:05.09 | Dustwhisper | hehe sbu |
| 10:05.09 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43707 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: update deDE locale |
| 10:05.17 | Dustwhisper | we did lurker, magtheridon, doomwalker and kazzak yesterday |
| 10:05.21 | Dustwhisper | without any of our maintanks |
| 10:05.25 | Dustwhisper | we just used alts |
| 10:05.28 | Dustwhisper | which was quite nice to see |
| 10:05.41 | cncfanatics | Fritti, you're starting karazhan soon right? |
| 10:05.42 | Dustwhisper | not that they are overly hard bosses or anything |
| 10:05.46 | Dustwhisper | but we have a lot of redundancy |
| 10:05.48 | Fritti | cncfanatics: yes |
| 10:05.50 | Fritti | see above? |
| 10:05.57 | cncfanatics | ups, didnt see it |
| 10:06.03 | abbat_w | holy shit |
| 10:06.05 | sbu | well - gruul is pretty easy... and it allows room for mistakes/death - but magtheridon doesnt (since you wont have enough SMART (!) ppl to click then) - and VR... well - enrage timer :p |
| 10:06.11 | cncfanatics | Fritti, you can't offtank :/ if they dont let u MT ur pretty pointless |
| 10:06.14 | abbat_w | blizzard do some nerf on crowd control again |
| 10:06.21 | abbat_w | from 12 sec to 10 sec |
| 10:06.22 | Dustwhisper | our dps is pretty good |
| 10:06.27 | Fritti | cncfanatics: that's what I thought as well, unfortunately |
| 10:06.29 | Dustwhisper | we've done kazzak pre enrage several times |
| 10:06.32 | cncfanatics | on a side note, look evolve up on khadgar in armory, I have nearly everything prekarazhan and i'm uncrushable |
| 10:06.39 | Fritti | yeah, did so |
| 10:06.48 | Fritti | got a lot of faction to go before I can match that |
| 10:07.00 | cncfanatics | heh, faction is so damn easy to get |
| 10:07.09 | Fritti | I'm a pretty casual player TBH so I'm not sure whether I want to invest in that |
| 10:07.18 | Fritti | like 2 evenings a week max |
| 10:07.26 | cncfanatics | ouch, its gonna be hard then |
| 10:07.30 | Fritti | exactly |
| 10:07.36 | cncfanatics | when I wanted my rep up I literaly farmed an instance the whole day |
| 10:07.45 | cncfanatics | think I did 30 SH runs a day at some point |
| 10:07.47 | Fritti | that'd work |
| 10:07.53 | Dustwhisper | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alonsus&n=Trizla |
| 10:07.59 | Dustwhisper | that is actually a pretty good palatank |
| 10:08.07 | Dustwhisper | just his attitude is a retard beyond the human genome |
| 10:08.13 | Fritti | cncfanatics: anyway I'm leveling my mage as well (64 now) so I can do DPS, much less gear reqs |
| 10:08.15 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:08.16 | sag_ich_nicht | • Greater Rune of Warding: Due to persistent bugs with its design, this item has been redesigned for patch 2.2. It now enchants a piece of chest armor so it has a chance per hit of giving you physical damage absorption. |
| 10:08.18 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, on ur server ? |
| 10:08.18 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43708 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/Search.lua): |
| 10:08.18 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:08.18 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the search function to cope with the new Load on Demand datasets |
| 10:08.20 | sag_ich_nicht | they finally gave up on the rune |
| 10:08.26 | Dustwhisper | we had him on shadowmoon |
| 10:08.57 | Dustwhisper | but he got gkicked |
| 10:09.11 | sag_ich_nicht | • Six Demon Bag: The damage spells cast by this item no longer benefit from a player’s bonus spell damage effects. |
| 10:09.13 | sag_ich_nicht | noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 10:10.36 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, some weird gear choices |
| 10:10.40 | cncfanatics | but gear is good on average |
| 10:10.47 | cncfanatics | cant judge skill/behaviour on armory ofc :p |
| 10:11.37 | Dustwhisper | nah he's a good player |
| 10:11.40 | Dustwhisper | just a total retard |
| 10:11.45 | Dustwhisper | started bitching at our MT at a boss |
| 10:11.49 | Dustwhisper | and telling him he's retarded |
| 10:11.54 | cncfanatics | lol, why ? |
| 10:11.58 | Dustwhisper | and refused to listen to him which is also a raidleader |
| 10:12.02 | Dustwhisper | because he didn't agree |
| 10:12.05 | Dustwhisper | on some blessing or something |
| 10:12.06 | cncfanatics | what boss ? |
| 10:12.10 | Dustwhisper | cant remember |
| 10:12.12 | Dustwhisper | anyways |
| 10:12.14 | sag_ich_nicht | • Tempest Keep: Mechanar |
| 10:12.15 | sag_ich_nicht | o Raging Flames in the Nethermancer Sepethrea encounter have had their movement speed reduced slightly in heroic mode. |
| 10:12.19 | Dustwhisper | he also left 5-10 heroics cause he threw a fit |
| 10:12.20 | cncfanatics | saw that |
| 10:12.21 | Dustwhisper | so a swift gkick |
| 10:12.23 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell this is pointless that boss is a piece of cake already |
| 10:12.33 | Thelyna | not really |
| 10:12.34 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, most groups cant take him :/ |
| 10:12.39 | cncfanatics | only killed him 4 times myself either |
| 10:12.46 | Thelyna | compared to other heroic bosses sepethrea is a bitch |
| 10:12.48 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics what the hell i killed her with a PUG |
| 10:12.58 | cncfanatics | slacky healers dont move fast enough, die, wipe |
| 10:12.59 | sag_ich_nicht | first try, too |
| 10:13.03 | cncfanatics | thats what often happened with me |
| 10:13.16 | Mikk | try taking her with a melee heavy group and a pally for healer |
| 10:13.17 | Mikk | good luck |
| 10:13.29 | sag_ich_nicht | • Tempest Keep: Mechanar |
| 10:13.29 | sag_ich_nicht | o Raging Flames in the Nethermancer Sepethrea encounter have had their movement speed reduced slightly in heroic mode. |
| 10:13.29 | Mikk | might as well just /wave and walk past |
| 10:13.29 | cncfanatics | pally sucks for healing her |
| 10:13.30 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 10:13.33 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry, wrong copy paste :( |
| 10:13.42 | sag_ich_nicht | god this is just as dumb as making the guardians in front of the opera in kara shackable |
| 10:13.47 | cncfanatics | pally dont got instaheals so she's a god damn bitchwhen u got an elemental after u |
| 10:13.47 | sbu | sag_ich_nicht: yay, clearing mechanar heroic again :p |
| 10:13.49 | Dustwhisper | unless you outgear her |
| 10:13.55 | Dustwhisper | mechanar is the easiest badgefarm |
| 10:13.59 | Dustwhisper | together with slavepens |
| 10:13.59 | sbu | <3 BoS for healers when doing tidewalker :p |
| 10:14.21 | cncfanatics | <3 palahealers with half the healing threat of other classes by default tbh |
| 10:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | we killed them with a really bad raid without dead people at ~90% health of everyone back when they weren't shackable |
| 10:14.27 | Dustwhisper | that's been one of our problems sbu |
| 10:14.33 | Dustwhisper | upto recently we only had 1 active palidan |
| 10:14.38 | Dustwhisper | now we have 4 or 5 |
| 10:14.38 | sbu | same here |
| 10:14.41 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, I often just tank both at once easy |
| 10:14.48 | Dustwhisper | so we always had salvation |
| 10:14.50 | Dustwhisper | but no kings/wisdom |
| 10:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | 3 paladins in our raid |
| 10:15.02 | sag_ich_nicht | heal, tank, ret :P |
| 10:15.04 | Dustwhisper | ye we try 3 now |
| 10:15.11 | cncfanatics | he does heal heal heal for sure: ) |
| 10:15.18 | Dustwhisper | 3 mages, 3-4 warlocks 3 palidans, 2-3 rogues, maybe a huntar, |
| 10:15.21 | Dustwhisper | one or two shammies |
| 10:15.29 | sag_ich_nicht | where is the damn ret fix tho |
| 10:15.32 | Dustwhisper | some priests (we have like 10 priests so we tend to go a bit priest heavy) |
| 10:15.40 | Dustwhisper | the retfix is in a later patch? |
| 10:15.56 | Diao | or they haven't added it to ptr yet |
| 10:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Dustwhisper yeah well that sucks |
| 10:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 10:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | • The following old-world factions have had their acquisition rate significantly increased: Cenarion Circle, Argent Dawn, Timbermaw Hold. |
| 10:16.09 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, the patch notes are way incomplete |
| 10:16.10 | Thelyna | the ret fix will come when they can figure out how to make ret viable compared to holy without making ret overpowered |
| 10:16.14 | cncfanatics | I'm hoping for the fix this patch |
| 10:16.24 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, just put the stuff deep in the ret tree |
| 10:16.30 | cncfanatics | they can figure THAT can they |
| 10:16.36 | cncfanatics | or make it require hitting the oponent in melee |
| 10:16.38 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:16] <cncfanatics> sag_ich_nicht, the patch notes are way incomplete <--i know :P i'll get on the PTR ASAP |
| 10:16.39 | Thelyna | if you have the choice you take three paladins for blessings, no more no less |
| 10:16.48 | Dustwhisper | w000t |
| 10:16.50 | Dustwhisper | timbermaw hold |
| 10:16.50 | cncfanatics | Thelyna, indeed |
| 10:16.55 | Thelyna | and you have to compare the value of a ret paladin vs. a holy paladin |
| 10:16.57 | Dustwhisper | maaaybe i can bother finishing 15agi on 1hander then |
| 10:17.01 | Diao | acquisition rate? |
| 10:17.04 | Diao | for rep? |
| 10:17.07 | Dustwhisper | yes |
| 10:17.09 | cncfanatics | Thelyna,depends on ur group composition I guess |
| 10:17.10 | Diao | eh |
| 10:17.10 | Dustwhisper | means how fast you get the rep |
| 10:17.12 | Diao | why bother |
| 10:17.17 | Dustwhisper | cause |
| 10:17.22 | Dustwhisper | Timbermaw has two very good enchants |
| 10:17.23 | cncfanatics | if you're already full on healers but need an extra blessing u cant take a holy |
| 10:17.26 | Dustwhisper | the 15agi on 1hand etc |
| 10:17.28 | syeren | Dustwhisper, why bother when you can get +20 agi on one hand now? |
| 10:17.33 | Dustwhisper | CC has some NR/enchants etc |
| 10:17.34 | Dustwhisper | cheaper? |
| 10:17.34 | Diao | Formula: Enchant Weapon - Greater Agility: This enchanting recipe is now available from the Violet Eye vendor. |
| 10:17.42 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 10:17.42 | syeren | Eugh. |
| 10:17.47 | Dustwhisper | wtf |
| 10:17.49 | cncfanatics | all formulas were moved to lvl 70 rep vendors |
| 10:17.51 | cncfanatics | all of them |
| 10:17.51 | Diao | they're adding all the old recipes |
| 10:17.53 | Diao | as rep |
| 10:17.54 | Diao | lol |
| 10:17.54 | cncfanatics | including aq40 ones |
| 10:17.57 | sag_ich_nicht | • Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish. |
| 10:17.59 | cncfanatics | same as with alchemy flasks |
| 10:18.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't believe it |
| 10:18.05 | Dustwhisper | where is the subtlety and 15 agi on gloves enchant |
| 10:18.12 | Diao | Formula: Enchant Cloak - Subtlety: This enchanting recipe is now available from the Thrallmar Quartermaster and Honor Hold Quartermaster. The reagents required have been adjusted to match the level 70 content. |
| 10:18.17 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah I saw that already |
| 10:18.19 | sag_ich_nicht | it's stupid imho |
| 10:18.22 | sbu | why? |
| 10:18.24 | Diao | Formula: Enchant Gloves - Threat: This enchanting recipe is now available from the Sha'tar Quartermaster. The reagents required have been adjusted to match the level 70 content. |
| 10:18.29 | Dustwhisper | woot |
| 10:18.30 | sbu | there is NO enchant for healers atm |
| 10:18.32 | Dustwhisper | glad im exalted with all |
| 10:18.42 | sbu | on cloak |
| 10:18.49 | syeren | Never has been, it's awesome. |
| 10:18.53 | Dustwhisper | Diao where is that list |
| 10:18.59 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 10:19.03 | Diao | under items |
| 10:19.12 | syeren | mmo-champion.com |
| 10:19.16 | syeren | Has a cleaner version. |
| 10:19.17 | Diao | end of post 5/beginning post 6 |
| 10:19.57 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, I only lack CoT here |
| 10:20.02 | Dustwhisper | oh |
| 10:20.03 | cncfanatics | cant be bothered with their heroics |
| 10:20.04 | Dustwhisper | that's on the ptr |
| 10:20.06 | Dustwhisper | not in game yet |
| 10:20.31 | Diao | what |
| 10:20.42 | Diao | you don't need to do heroics for cot exalted o_O |
| 10:21.06 | Diao | you can run durnholde reg to exalted if you're bored enough |
| 10:21.07 | Diao | lol |
| 10:21.24 | cncfanatics | Diao, I never run non heroics anymore |
| 10:21.34 | Diao | just saying |
| 10:21.35 | Diao | if you want fast rep |
| 10:21.41 | cncfanatics | could farm BM for fast rep |
| 10:21.44 | cncfanatics | but cba -.- |
| 10:21.48 | cncfanatics | nothing I need at exalted anyway |
| 10:21.50 | evl | ahh |
| 10:22.00 | evl | finally i get my reward for being exalted with every faction :P |
| 10:22.11 | evl | 1050 zaxxis insignias :D |
| 10:22.33 | cncfanatics | bleh |
| 10:22.40 | cncfanatics | I cant reach exalted scryer or any other grinding faction atm |
| 10:22.43 | cncfanatics | prot sucks for grinding |
| 10:22.49 | cncfanatics | lvl'ing a hunter atm for grinding scryer rep |
| 10:22.56 | cncfanatics | and for grinding just about anything tbh |
| 10:23.25 | evl | i grinded as combat rogue with remorseless and riposte, works very very well |
| 10:23.53 | cncfanatics | well, I need a class thats good for grinding primals/rep or about everything that dsnt require instancing |
| 10:24.00 | cncfanatics | as I cant afford to migrate my mage to khadgar yet |
| 10:24.12 | evl | hunter is nice |
| 10:24.16 | evl | but shadowpriest is more efficient afaik |
| 10:24.23 | Biceps^ | nah |
| 10:24.26 | Biceps^ | hunters are the fastest grinders |
| 10:24.38 | cncfanatics | also |
| 10:24.42 | cncfanatics | aspect of the viper gets reworked |
| 10:24.46 | cncfanatics | think its a buff personaly |
| 10:24.47 | Biceps^ | spriests have downtime, whereas a good hunter has negative downtime |
| 10:24.57 | cncfanatics | but, my hunter is only lvl 14 |
| 10:24.59 | cncfanatics | long way to go :p |
| 10:25.01 | Biceps^ | :) |
| 10:25.02 | Biceps^ | yup |
| 10:25.27 | Dustwhisper | mages are pretty darn fast grinders |
| 10:25.28 | cncfanatics | will get there eventualy I guess |
| 10:25.29 | Dustwhisper | so are warlocks |
| 10:25.35 | cncfanatics | mages have pretty anoying downtime |
| 10:25.43 | cncfanatics | hunters even in green gear have 0 |
| 10:25.46 | Arrowmaster | im a slow warlock grinder |
| 10:25.52 | Dustwhisper | the downtime is neglible |
| 10:25.56 | Dustwhisper | and warlocks have no downtime |
| 10:26.00 | Arrowmaster | i drain tank single mobs because i hate having low health |
| 10:26.03 | cncfanatics | I dont think it is personaly |
| 10:26.14 | cncfanatics | 10k mana takes a while to drink up :( |
| 10:26.28 | Fin | shadow priests |
| 10:27.22 | sag_ich_nicht | New Violet Eye rewards: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8206/newrepfd8.jpg |
| 10:27.41 | evl | poop rewards. |
| 10:28.01 | evl | i can't believe they call that chest epic |
| 10:28.16 | Wixi | i like the fact they put all the old AQ rewards into vendors nw |
| 10:28.18 | Wixi | now* |
| 10:28.18 | cncfanatics | let me check |
| 10:28.21 | evl | not only is it worse then heroic dungeon set chest Wastewalker the mats are horrible |
| 10:28.45 | Biceps^ | wastewalker isnt bad for feral druids :p |
| 10:29.00 | cncfanatics | time to eat |
| 10:29.03 | cncfanatics | i'll be gone for a while |
| 10:30.05 | [dRaCo] | 4 primal nethers.. yay. |
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| 10:30.20 | Arrowmaster | leatherworking cloak? wtf |
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| 10:33.13 | Pheredhel | Hi |
| 10:34.04 | Undine | where should I report issues with wau2? |
| 10:36.20 | Mikk | try #wau |
| 10:37.04 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43710 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: bugfix |
| 10:37.30 | sbu | Arrowmaster: mh - CoA, siphon life and corruption on 3 mobs + AE fear |
| 10:37.44 | sbu | and wait for them to return with <1k HP :p |
| 10:39.02 | evl | How Grid's performance really? I'm running XRS atm but I was thinking of switching |
| 10:39.15 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43711 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: missing a comma there. |
| 10:39.27 | Diao | xrs and grid aren't the same type of addon are they? o_O |
| 10:39.50 | evl | arguably visually they aren't but they both give you data about your raid |
| 10:40.37 | Diao | well |
| 10:41.04 | Diao | xrs is more of a "keep track of stuff" addon, grid is more suited toward healers/dispellers so they can see who needs to be dispelled/healed? |
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| 10:45.19 | dodgizzla | I think Grid is zeh awesomeness |
| 10:45.45 | dodgizzla | Combined with Clique it's just ridiculous how simple healing/dispelling can be |
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| 10:56.26 | Thelyna | XRS is a raid status addon |
| 10:56.43 | Thelyna | grid is more aimed to healers/decursers |
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| 11:00.35 | Mikk | xrs works fairly well for buffage too tho |
| 11:00.42 | Mikk | except if you're a pally |
| 11:01.08 | JoshBorke | i can't believe the change to the paladin buffs |
| 11:02.10 | Wobin_ | What's a good raid status addon? |
| 11:02.20 | Wobin_ | So you can track stuff like healer mana overall etc |
| 11:02.30 | vhaarr | XRS? |
| 11:03.06 | Wobin_ | ta |
| 11:03.36 | JoshBorke | xrs n00blet |
| 11:03.45 | JoshBorke | GAH wobin |
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| 11:08.06 | Dustwhisper | grid is completely fucked for me |
| 11:08.12 | Dustwhisper | the grids themself lose text |
| 11:08.17 | Dustwhisper | they show buffs for everyone that doesnt have the buffs |
| 11:08.18 | Dustwhisper | etc |
| 11:11.06 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r43713 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: |
| 11:11.06 | CIA-22 | ParserLib: |
| 11:11.06 | CIA-22 | - sorted the patterns in eventTable for easier updating. |
| 11:11.15 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 11:11.21 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174686326&sid=1 best. trick. ever. |
| 11:11.27 | ilifin | my god |
| 11:11.29 | ilifin | ptr 2.2 |
| 11:11.32 | ilifin | mac ingame video recording support |
| 11:11.35 | clad|sleep | sylvanaar: Which bug with clique/acedb? |
| 11:11.38 | ilifin | macwhoregasm |
| 11:11.47 | ilifin | about fucking time they take core video in use :p |
| 11:12.00 | nevcairiel | CIA-22 ate my commit |
| 11:12.02 | nevcairiel | crazy bot |
| 11:12.03 | cncfanatics | ag_ich_nicht, lemme read that :p |
| 11:12.26 | clad|sleep | ilifin: I agree 100% =) |
| 11:13.48 | sbu | heh |
| 11:13.49 | sbu | wtf |
| 11:13.52 | sbu | ilifin: wtb for windows :o |
| 11:14.16 | Dustwhisper | http://break.com/index/rolling-tires-off-a-ski-jump.html |
| 11:14.28 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht nice one |
| 11:16.01 | pb_ee1 | sag_ich_nicht: rofl |
| 11:16.46 | pb_ee1 | Where can i find 2.2 expected patch note? |
| 11:16.55 | Wobin_ | Does it crit all the time if you're sitting? |
| 11:17.31 | [dRaCo] | pb_ee1: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 11:17.34 | ilifin | sbu - not possible, windows isn't rendered ontop of the same layer that the game is, in OS X the OS itself is on the same layer as games |
| 11:17.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin_: yes |
| 11:17.40 | pb_ee1 | [dRaCo]: thanks ;) |
| 11:17.41 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, they're incomplete though |
| 11:17.42 | sag_ich_nicht | sitting forces a crit |
| 11:17.53 | sag_ich_nicht | /r/eq. inofficial patchnotes |
| 11:18.05 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: crazy =) |
| 11:18.06 | sbu | ilifin: so there is atm no way to record moves? |
| 11:18.07 | sbu | movies |
| 11:18.12 | ilifin | there is |
| 11:18.18 | ilifin | by accessing the gamerendering layer |
| 11:18.22 | ilifin | i.e. what fraps etc does |
| 11:19.06 | cncfanatics | anyone know a good recording for linux ? |
| 11:19.30 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, ping |
| 11:20.19 | sbu | ilifin: was talking about OS X :) |
| 11:20.27 | ilifin | sbu - aaaaaaah |
| 11:20.37 | sag_ich_nicht | " Yes, AddOns have full access to the voice chat API at the moment. There is no documentation for it, but you'll be able to see it in action on the test server. when it becomes available." |
| 11:20.53 | ilifin | sbu - well, you can record movies easily by typing out some simply piping commands from the core video layer to quicktime, the *problem* is that it is tedious |
| 11:21.01 | ilifin | blizz figured they'd just add ingame support for it |
| 11:21.50 | cncfanatics | ilifin, any way on linux ? :p |
| 11:22.01 | cncfanatics | should be doable with piping commands too for all I know :p |
| 11:22.33 | ilifin | cncfanatics - no idea, never tried it on os x but I've seen it in action, so wouldn't know how |
| 11:23.10 | cncfanatics | bleh, k |
| 11:23.16 | cncfanatics | I'm installing a debian soon (buying a laptop) |
| 11:23.24 | cncfanatics | and as I dont want vista i'm getting a debian box on it |
| 11:23.36 | cncfanatics | and as I'm buying a new laptop its easy to make sure everything is supported :) |
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| 11:27.53 | Dustwhisper | fraps does that now? |
| 11:27.56 | Dustwhisper | it used to just grab frames |
| 11:29.05 | phyber | anyone for the extracted .torrent from the EU PTR patch? |
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| 11:29.30 | nevcairiel | the downloader was way fast for me today |
| 11:29.32 | nevcairiel | no need :D |
| 11:29.43 | cncfanatics | downloader is fast with fresh patches |
| 11:30.00 | phyber | I'm at work, and can't run it in Wine since this workstation sucks and locks up running wine. |
| 11:30.08 | phyber | new workstation next week, \o/ |
| 11:30.13 | cncfanatics | :o, linux at work ? :o |
| 11:30.17 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: thanks for the info ;-) |
| 11:30.17 | phyber | yes |
| 11:30.27 | cncfanatics | stupid xp here |
| 11:30.32 | pb_ee1 | Is there a way to setup how Parrot displays events on the screen? |
| 11:30.34 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, np |
| 11:30.43 | sbu | mhhm is there somethink to emulate mkdir -p switch in perl? :/ |
| 11:30.46 | cncfanatics | whats parrot btw ? |
| 11:30.55 | pb_ee1 | SCT coded by ckknight (in short ;p) |
| 11:31.03 | sbu | or do i have to recursive if(-d) + mkdir and stuff? :/ |
| 11:31.35 | phyber | sbu: just do a system() to execute mkdir -p for now and find a nice replacement for it later ;) |
| 11:32.12 | sbu | phyber: *sigh* :) |
| 11:33.00 | [dRaCo] | just create a popup asking the user to execute mkdir -p for you ;) |
| 11:33.06 | [dRaCo] | polite programming! |
| 11:33.10 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with the current SCT ? |
| 11:33.17 | Mikk | ckk didn't code it |
| 11:33.21 | JoshBorke | morning claddy waddy |
| 11:33.21 | Mikk | basically |
| 11:33.31 | JoshBorke | Mikk: i like your positioning code for WindowLib |
| 11:33.32 | cncfanatics | Mikk, not enough of a reason :p |
| 11:34.00 | Mikk | JoshBorke: I'm so ninjacommiting it to other addons. I keep changing my UI scale and windowsize too much :P |
| 11:34.00 | sbu | [dRaCo]: popup? :p |
| 11:34.07 | phyber | sbu: File::Path and 'mkpath' are your friends. |
| 11:34.09 | JoshBorke | Mikk: personally i'm of the opinion that something like that (just the save/restore) should be made available to others as snippets on wowwiki ;-) |
| 11:34.21 | Mikk | good point |
| 11:34.26 | sbu | cncfanatics: no contact to the author and stuff |
| 11:34.31 | sbu | and <3 parrot :p |
| 11:34.45 | cncfanatics | addons shldnt be rewriten if they aint bloated |
| 11:34.48 | cncfanatics | imo at least |
| 11:35.06 | JoshBorke | perhaps it wasn't configurable enough? |
| 11:35.09 | Mikk | parrot is 3 times the size of msbt atm :P |
| 11:35.09 | JoshBorke | or modular enough? |
| 11:35.14 | [dRaCo] | aight, use the console or whatever |
| 11:35.19 | sbu | Mikk: i dont care :p |
| 11:35.23 | JoshBorke | nothing ckknight writes ends up small ;-P |
| 11:35.40 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, not modular counts as bloated imo |
| 11:35.49 | sbu | Mikk: same with pitbull and aguf... |
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| 11:35.54 | nevcairiel | Mikk: he generally manages to make it too big with all the modular overhead stuff .. thats why i will prolly stick to MSBT :p |
| 11:36.12 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: modular design requires more coding to handle teh module |
| 11:36.25 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: more code means more time and space |
| 11:36.34 | JoshBorke | which means larger (which doesn't mean bloated) |
| 11:36.48 | Mikk | and if you split off every little itty bit of functionality into a module, you get a loooot of overhead :P |
| 11:36.50 | sbu | phyber: hmm... i think its overkill to include that lib if i only need it every time a new user uses that script... (which happens once every 3 months?) |
| 11:36.53 | nevcairiel | i still wouldnt say that MSBT is bloated just because it isnt modular |
| 11:37.08 | nevcairiel | i actually like it, and ive never seen it in my top10 addon memory usage list :P |
| 11:37.24 | phyber | the lib isn't that big. it has two functions. mkpath and rmtree. |
| 11:37.29 | cncfanatics | Mikk, I always split off every lil func in its module -.- |
| 11:37.35 | cncfanatics | <3 seperated code |
| 11:37.43 | Mikk | <3 less code |
| 11:37.49 | JoshBorke | separated code is good for development, not for performance |
| 11:37.50 | Mikk | i can have on/off toggles without making it a module :P |
| 11:39.01 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:39.06 | nevcairiel | code in memory doesnt really hurt |
| 11:39.10 | nevcairiel | as long as its not executed |
| 11:39.32 | cncfanatics | well, if you can't develop your addon decently, it'll hurt performance eventualy imo |
| 11:39.37 | JoshBorke | for me i liken it to compiling C code. sure you can make it more configurable by reading from a file but you can make it faster by compiling the configuration in |
| 11:40.15 | sag_ich_nicht | so did someone make a Live/PTR diff yet? |
| 11:40.23 | nevcairiel | only because you use OO approaches, and split everything off, it doesnt say that its decent :P |
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| 11:40.33 | sbu | JoshBorke: mhh - i think its more like some definition file you compile in... |
| 11:40.36 | nevcairiel | i can perfectly code an addon in a procedural approach, and it will run good. |
| 11:40.45 | sbu | and not reading a seperate file at runtime |
| 11:40.47 | JoshBorke | mikk: btw, is the positioning code in WindowLib going to be obsolete come 2.2? |
| 11:41.05 | nevcairiel | only the default UI will prolly use the new positioning code |
| 11:41.09 | JoshBorke | or is that only good for UserPlacedFrames |
| 11:41.10 | sbu | mh is voicecomm working on 2.2 PTR? |
| 11:41.12 | sbu | want to test ;p |
| 11:41.20 | nevcairiel | no its distabled right now |
| 11:41.53 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 11:41.58 | abbat_w | any news about Parrot? :) |
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| 11:42.05 | sbu | abbat_w: news? :o |
| 11:42.06 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r43714 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: |
| 11:42.06 | CIA-22 | ParserLib: |
| 11:42.06 | CIA-22 | - Added a few missing patterns. |
| 11:42.06 | CIA-22 | - Tweaked TestPatterns(). |
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| 11:42.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Anyone who wants expansion 2 spoilers go here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=193.0 |
| 11:42.44 | sbu | mhh old stuff.. very old :o |
| 11:42.44 | abbat_w | sbu, yep. maybe early beta or something |
| 11:42.51 | Dustwhisper | i heard there wont be any new 25 until second expansion >` |
| 11:43.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:42] <sbu> mhh old stuff.. very old :o <--except 2.2 adds more :P |
| 11:43.29 | sbu | hm okay :p |
| 11:44.53 | abbat_w | O! |
| 11:45.03 | abbat_w | Guys, someone play by mage? |
| 11:45.10 | abbat_w | With water elemental |
| 11:45.17 | abbat_w | I have small question ;) |
| 11:45.26 | abbat_w | Sometimes my pet break polymorph |
| 11:45.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ~metaquestion |
| 11:45.36 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit purl. |
| 11:46.00 | abbat_w | I read what pets now stop attack if target in crowd control effect like polymorph |
| 11:46.16 | cncfanatics | they do since ages |
| 11:46.19 | cncfanatics | but if a bolt is flying already |
| 11:46.23 | cncfanatics | ur pet cant get the bolt back |
| 11:46.39 | abbat_w | pet stop attack after i finish poly? |
| 11:46.49 | abbat_w | or after i start poly? |
| 11:46.59 | JoshBorke | when it detects poly |
| 11:47.11 | sbu | so when poly debuff is on your mob |
| 11:47.14 | abbat_w | damn, need to modify macros then to stop it manually |
| 11:47.46 | abbat_w | it make some problems like faster diminishing return after some breaks ;( |
| 11:51.23 | Mikk | JoshBorke / nevcairiel: Wah? Frame placement code? |
| 11:51.44 | JoshBorke | mikk: frames will now be saved to the nearest corner |
| 11:51.52 | JoshBorke | instead of topleft->bottomleft |
| 11:51.55 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r43715 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Added changedFunc to Textboxes, called when the text changes. setFunc is still called when enter is pressed |
| 11:52.17 | Mikk | ah.. for user placed frames yeah |
| 11:52.30 | Mikk | except if you save your own config in acedb profiles that doesn't really help :S |
| 11:54.22 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: do you project to add special events such as overpower available, execute, ... to Parrot? |
| 11:55.30 | cncfanatics | typical ckknight answer would be: write a module :) |
| 11:55.47 | sbu | ;p |
| 11:56.13 | pb_ee1 | hummm... ;p |
| 11:56.19 | Neebler | ~ckknight |
| 11:56.20 | purl | ckknight is a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 11:56.47 | pb_ee1 | purl, that is a joke ;p |
| 11:56.48 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, pb_ee1 |
| 11:56.56 | pb_ee1 | muahahaha |
| 11:57.04 | Neebler | ~emulate pb_ee1 |
| 11:57.15 | pb_ee1 | ^_^ |
| 11:57.15 | Neebler | ~emulate tekkub |
| 11:57.16 | purl | I'm taking back that /blow job |
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| 11:58.23 | JoshBorke | ~emulate JoshBorke |
| 11:58.23 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 11:58.32 | JoshBorke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 11:58.56 | JoshBorke | easy way to make him open a message window to me |
| 11:59.24 | benmaca | ola, any atlasloot dev here? |
| 11:59.25 | JoshBorke | ~joshborke |
| 11:59.25 | purl | Yes, I'm even more stupid then Thrae. |
| 11:59.25 | abbat_w | Josh_Borke is main developer of sexy bar fader for ckknight PitBull. ckknight is a strong developer... |
| 11:59.25 | abbat_w | ;) |
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| 11:59.39 | abbat_w | ~tuplad |
| 11:59.40 | purl | http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg |
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| 12:01.56 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 12:02.00 | cncfanatics | lets see what cnc says :p |
| 12:02.03 | cncfanatics | Inever set it that I can remember |
| 12:02.04 | JoshBorke | 7 |
| 12:02.17 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 12:02.18 | purl | [cncfanatics] the flexbar2 author |
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| 12:04.16 | pb_ee1 | purl, cncfanatics is the flexbar2 author |
| 12:04.17 | purl | pb_ee1: i already had it that way |
| 12:04.28 | pb_ee1 | purl, you're very impressive |
| 12:04.44 | pb_ee1 | you could answer to that! boo. |
| 12:04.49 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 12:06.02 | cncfanatics | purl, help |
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| 12:06.16 | Fisker- | !!!!!!! |
| 12:06.21 | Fisker- | btw i hate you vhaarr :( |
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| 12:07.11 | cncfanatics | who made purl ? |
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| 12:08.52 | krka | dont tell me. i'd have to kill that person |
| 12:09.31 | Health | Funny guy |
| 12:09.33 | Health | that krka |
| 12:09.37 | cncfanatics | u think ? |
| 12:09.41 | cncfanatics | I dunno, he's a weirdo |
| 12:09.52 | Health | He smells funny too |
| 12:10.11 | cncfanatics | well, whoever made purl, I Dont think its smart to put xxx.com in it's help section anyway |
| 12:11.56 | krka | wtf |
| 12:11.56 | Fisker- | doesn't look like readTerminationWithoutNotice was in 2.1.x |
| 12:12.00 | krka | you dont even know me cncfanatics :( |
| 12:12.28 | Fisker- | wtf is going on |
| 12:12.50 | Fisker- | On PTR there's this loud war of the worlds-like stridersound |
| 12:12.53 | krka | i smell funny Health? :( |
| 12:14.56 | Health | nice |
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| 12:16.16 | cncfanatics | 04krka smells funny |
| 12:16.40 | vhaarr | Fisker-: >< |
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| 12:18.11 | cladhaire | ~purl |
| 12:18.11 | purl | purl is, like, purl |
| 12:18.15 | cladhaire | h8 |
| 12:18.23 | ilifin | ~mac |
| 12:18.23 | purl | mac is, like, the best computer ever, or an abbreviation for Moves, Adds and Changes |
| 12:18.34 | cladhaire | What kind of bank makes me come into the branch to order wire funds |
| 12:18.35 | ilifin | purl knows! |
| 12:18.36 | cladhaire | how ghetto |
| 12:18.47 | cladhaire | s/order// |
| 12:18.51 | cncfanatics | ~microsoft |
| 12:18.52 | purl | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." |
| 12:18.56 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 12:18.58 | cncfanatics | so true |
| 12:19.11 | cncfanatics | ~windows |
| 12:19.12 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs |
| 12:19.33 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 12:19.42 | ilifin | lollin |
| 12:20.24 | cncfanatics | ~linus |
| 12:20.25 | purl | somebody said linus was a man with an amazing vocabulary |
| 12:20.41 | cncfanatics | heh, an amazing vocabulary eh? for some types of words indeed |
| 12:20.50 | CIA-22 | 03adelea * r43716 10GridManaBars/ (4 files): GridManaBars - split out the local stuff into seperate files |
| 12:21.10 | cncfanatics | ~linux |
| 12:21.11 | purl | [linux] the cure for cancer, AIDS and slavery to corporations |
| 12:21.24 | cncfanatics | ~debian |
| 12:21.24 | purl | from memory, debian is a free software GNU/Linux distribution. Debian 3.1 contains KDE 3.3.2 |
| 12:21.41 | cncfanatics | ~wine |
| 12:21.41 | purl | Emulator of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs.. URL: http://www.winehq.com/, or a good way of curing the aches and pains of a systems integrator, or not half as good as beer, or best served in a clean wine glass after supper, or comes in may colours and flavors |
| 12:21.45 | cncfanatics | after this one i'm done spamming |
| 12:22.04 | cncfanatics | purl, you are smart |
| 12:22.05 | purl | cncfanatics: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 12:22.25 | cncfanatics | purl is smar |
| 12:22.28 | pb_ee1 | purl, i love you |
| 12:22.29 | purl | You love you? |
| 12:22.35 | Neebler | Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes |
| 12:22.38 | pb_ee1 | purl, i love purl |
| 12:22.38 | purl | You love purl? |
| 12:22.44 | pb_ee1 | purl: yes |
| 12:22.45 | purl | You don't say! |
| 12:22.54 | cncfanatics | <3 purl |
| 12:23.08 | pb_ee1 | purl: say something |
| 12:23.09 | purl | something |
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| 12:23.15 | pb_ee1 | ^^ |
| 12:23.24 | pb_ee1 | purl: 2+2 |
| 12:23.24 | purl | well, 2+2 is 5 |
| 12:23.28 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 12:23.51 | cncfanatics | ~ckknight |
| 12:23.52 | purl | ckknight is a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 12:24.04 | cncfanatics | ~emulate ckknight |
| 12:24.05 | purl | <@ckknight> f*ck you, guy |
| 12:24.29 | Fisker- | but i do liek |
| 12:24.39 | Fisker- | strider like sounds in wow |
| 12:24.48 | cncfanatics | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 12:25.15 | cncfanatics | noes :( |
| 12:26.09 | Fisker- | hah |
| 12:26.11 | Fisker- | ~emulate fisker |
| 12:26.12 | purl | less talking and more fisting please |
| 12:26.20 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 12:26.59 | cncfanatics | how u set that ? :o |
| 12:27.06 | cncfanatics | ~emulate cncfanatics |
| 12:28.16 | mikma | purl: emulate cncfanatics is a dork |
| 12:28.16 | purl | okay, mikma |
| 12:28.29 | cncfanatics | purl: emulate cncfanatics is bored at work |
| 12:28.30 | purl | ...but emulate cncfanatics is already something else... |
| 12:28.30 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 12:28.33 | pb_ee1 | ~about |
| 12:28.34 | purl | it has been said that help is /msg apt help |
| 12:28.47 | cncfanatics | damn u mikma |
| 12:28.50 | cncfanatics | I cant change it again now |
| 12:28.56 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.57 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate cncfanatics |
| 12:28.58 | purl | [emulate cncfanatics] a dork |
| 12:29.09 | cncfanatics | ~purl: emulate mikma is an ass |
| 12:29.10 | purl | ...but emulate mikma is already something else... |
| 12:29.16 | cncfanatics | ~emulate mikma |
| 12:29.17 | purl | Tak0r_: Make it Ace2 |
| 12:29.33 | Josh_Borke | purl, emulate cncfanatics is <reply> is a dork |
| 12:29.34 | purl | ...but emulate cncfanatics is already something else... |
| 12:29.37 | Josh_Borke | purl, no emulate cncfanatics is <reply> is a dork |
| 12:29.38 | purl | Josh_Borke: okay |
| 12:29.43 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate cncfanatics |
| 12:29.44 | purl | is a dork |
| 12:29.49 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 12:29.54 | Josh_Borke | purl, forget emulate cncfanatics |
| 12:29.54 | purl | i forgot emulate cncfanatics, Josh_Borke |
| 12:29.55 | cncfanatics | purl, no emulate cncfanatics ownz |
| 12:30.08 | cncfanatics | lol |
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| 12:30.14 | cncfanatics | no more playing with the poor bot please :p |
| 12:30.15 | Josh_Borke | he told me to stop abusing forget |
| 12:30.29 | mikma | he did? you're a bad boy |
| 12:30.34 | pb_ee1 | purl: wikipedia purl |
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| 12:30.56 | cncfanatics | ~emulate purl |
| 12:30.57 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 12:31.08 | cncfanatics | its a girl :o |
| 12:31.10 | Health | purl is a she! |
| 12:31.14 | mikma | herself her ass |
| 12:31.14 | pb_ee1 | d'oh! |
| 12:32.05 | Josh_Borke | what are you purl? |
| 12:32.11 | Josh_Borke | purl, are you female? |
| 12:32.29 | mikma | purl suck Josh_Borke please |
| 12:32.29 | purl | ACTION sucks Josh_Borke please's cheek |
| 12:32.31 | cncfanatics | purl, Josh_Borke loves you |
| 12:32.37 | mikma | haha |
| 12:32.53 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 12:33.03 | cncfanatics | how much fun you can have with some bot :o |
| 12:33.06 | cncfanatics | but I got to relog irc, brb |
| 12:33.08 | *** part/#wowace cncfanatics (i=d578f547@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-20ed9c7ab925a4b7) |
| 12:33.13 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 12:33.22 | mikma | purl: emulate cncfanatics is <reply> wah wah |
| 12:33.23 | purl | okay, mikma |
| 12:34.09 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (i=d578f547@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-91700a2257ecbde8) |
| 12:34.30 | pb_ee1 | does anyone know where i can get netscape 2.0? |
| 12:34.42 | mikma | the internets |
| 12:34.49 | pb_ee1 | purl does not answer :( |
| 12:34.53 | pb_ee1 | http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~lenzo/tpj_infobot.html |
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| 12:39.31 | abbat_w | heh |
| 12:39.54 | abbat_w | if Ammo start druid twink, his twink should have nickname Ammoo ;) |
| 12:40.20 | Health | Okay... |
| 12:40.24 | krka | funny |
| 12:41.03 | krka | it's funny because the name has moo in it, and horde druids are tauren, and tauren har related to cows |
| 12:41.14 | cncfanatics | krka smells funny:) |
| 12:41.20 | abbat_w | krka, yep ;) |
| 12:41.23 | cncfanatics | cows also smell funny |
| 12:41.24 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 12:41.27 | cncfanatics | the relation :o |
| 12:41.33 | abbat_w | no, not funny |
| 12:41.55 | abbat_w | cow smell ugly |
| 12:42.13 | abbat_w | ammMMmooooo |
| 12:42.31 | pb_ee1 | purl, Ammo moos |
| 12:42.49 | abbat_w | and where is Nymbia? |
| 12:42.54 | abbat_w | we lost him? |
| 12:42.56 | pb_ee1 | purl, Ammo is someone that should reroll druid and call his character Ammoooo |
| 12:42.57 | purl | okay, pb_ee1 |
| 12:43.02 | Neebler | on vacation |
| 12:43.14 | Health | nice |
| 12:43.24 | abbat_w | coz i have one smaaaal request to spellbinder |
| 12:43.45 | *** join/#wowace Boubouille (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-83-174.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:43.51 | abbat_w | i can't bind 'alt+mouse scroll up' for example |
| 12:44.00 | abbat_w | or alt+mouse scroll down |
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| 12:46.23 | krka | I'll take the name Moorlochunter |
| 12:46.26 | krka | for a druid hunter |
| 12:46.35 | abbat_w | heh |
| 12:46.54 | krka | it's funny because it has moo in it, and druids are related to cows, and cows say moo, and the class is a hunter, and the name has hunter in it. |
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| 12:46.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 12:47.05 | abbat_w | i hate murlocks. i start my first char at alliance side. human mage |
| 12:47.09 | Recluse | i'm calling tooltip:AddLine() with a string, but i wish to change the color of the text. being new to the whole addon thing (and ace) i'm curious as to how to do this. i recall seeing c|ffffff or something, but not sure about all of it. |
| 12:47.24 | cncfanatics | ffffff would be white |
| 12:47.24 | abbat_w | and some quests in Elwynn was kill murlocs in lake |
| 12:47.42 | abbat_w | from this time i hate these mobs |
| 12:48.01 | Health | How interesting.... |
| 12:48.13 | Health | Please tell us more about your life |
| 12:48.14 | Recluse | ffffff as a sample, hex'd color with a c| will do what i want though? and do i need to escape this with \ or anything? |
| 12:48.27 | Fisker- | OH LAWD? |
| 12:48.36 | Fisker- | doh nevermind |
| 12:49.02 | abbat_w | Health, if it's not hard for you, can i ask you tell only about you. I don't see what rest ppl declare these voices to you |
| 12:49.15 | Nargiddley | Recluse, its |c and you need ff in front of the rgb hex color |
| 12:49.16 | Josh_Borke | Recluse: you must include an alpha setting for colors |
| 12:49.21 | abbat_w | And it's not correct if you say something but use 'us' |
| 12:49.23 | Droolio | isn't it |c |
| 12:49.23 | Nargiddley | since its argb |
| 12:50.03 | Recluse | ^.^ |cff###### then? |
| 12:50.04 | Droolio | |caarrggbb |
| 12:50.21 | abbat_w | Health, also you can use /ignore in you chat client if you don't want to see someone |
| 12:50.34 | krka | Nargiddley: is the alpha really needed in all cases? |
| 12:50.35 | Recluse | sweet. that's what i was wonderin'. thanks :) |
| 12:51.12 | Nargiddley | afaik yes |
| 12:51.49 | Droolio | usually |cff for fully opaque |
| 12:51.56 | krka | i know it's needed for syntax - but is the actual value used? |
| 12:52.07 | krka | i dont think it's used in texts anyway |
| 12:52.14 | krka | |c00 and |cff are the same |
| 12:52.21 | krka | long time since i tested though |
| 12:52.31 | Recluse | and it worked perfectly! you guys are great :p |
| 12:52.42 | Droolio | i imagine there's not much use for fully transparent :) |
| 12:54.06 | Health | abbat_w: I have an alias to ignore to /shutupyouchristianfagass |
| 12:54.16 | Health | Welcome to my alias |
| 12:54.42 | cncfanatics | Health, I'm 100% sure you're christian !! |
| 12:55.07 | Health | kk |
| 12:55.41 | abbat_w | christian? |
| 12:55.47 | abbat_w | what you mean? |
| 12:56.36 | abbat_w | i'm muslim. |
| 12:56.38 | pb_ee1 | Recluse: don't forget to "close" the tag with |r |
| 12:56.42 | abbat_w | vakhabbit |
| 12:56.56 | art3mis | christian fag ass? |
| 12:56.59 | pb_ee1 | abbat_w: I'm Night Elf |
| 12:57.04 | art3mis | wow |
| 12:57.05 | abbat_w | =)))) |
| 12:57.09 | abbat_w | pb_ee1 ;) |
| 12:57.10 | pb_ee1 | :P |
| 12:57.11 | abbat_w | lol |
| 12:57.40 | pb_ee1 | (but it's not true :( ) |
| 12:57.42 | art3mis | channel seems mostly retarded today i wonder if im on the wrong network |
| 12:57.59 | pb_ee1 | art3mis: nope, we're just victims of the success of Ace2 |
| 12:58.00 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 12:58.00 | krka | no, that's just health |
| 12:58.03 | krka | he has anger issues :( |
| 12:58.28 | Health | you are an anger issue! :( |
| 12:58.31 | cncfanatics | Mr Fowl, i'm bored at work, thats why i'm retarted, dunno for the others :p |
| 12:58.34 | art3mis | so as things become popular it eventually attracts the lesser life forms? |
| 12:58.45 | pb_ee1 | yup |
| 12:58.48 | pb_ee1 | Look at wow ;p |
| 12:58.50 | Recluse | pb_ee1: that'd be good practice rofl |
| 12:58.52 | art3mis | touche |
| 12:59.08 | cncfanatics | s/touche/touché |
| 12:59.12 | pb_ee1 | Then try to play EVE Online |
| 12:59.14 | art3mis | cncfanatics: it's entreri actually but fowl is fine ;P |
| 12:59.24 | pb_ee1 | You'll see there's not the same % of noobs/slackers/... |
| 12:59.35 | pb_ee1 | Or even LOTRO or Vanguard |
| 12:59.36 | cncfanatics | art3mis, u know where I get Fowl from ? :p |
| 12:59.49 | krka | i wonder if games that support pvp harassment will promote or demote friendliness |
| 12:59.56 | art3mis | it certainly isnt from the book series ;P |
| 13:00.02 | art3mis | you made it up right? |
| 13:00.05 | art3mis | ;) |
| 13:00.18 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 13:00.20 | cncfanatics | ah |
| 13:00.26 | cncfanatics | there's a series of books called artemis fowl |
| 13:00.29 | cncfanatics | and they rock |
| 13:00.30 | pb_ee1 | WTB Dictionnary |
| 13:00.30 | Health | krka: You can harass players in the Arena from the same faction! |
| 13:00.39 | art3mis | slackers are the less energetic and less motivated of the world |
| 13:00.53 | art3mis | they may also be members of the Church of Slack |
| 13:00.53 | cncfanatics | Health |
| 13:00.56 | pb_ee1 | art3mis: thanks ;) |
| 13:00.59 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 13:01.04 | art3mis | cncfanatics: i have em sitting opn my bookshelf |
| 13:01.16 | cncfanatics | when we're bored we usualy leave the last person of 5v5 alive for a few minutes |
| 13:01.23 | cncfanatics | (up to 60) |
| 13:01.42 | krka | does anyone know of a game where players are nice to eachother? |
| 13:01.48 | cncfanatics | krka, offline games :) |
| 13:01.52 | art3mis | progressquest! |
| 13:01.54 | krka | in wow that's true to some extent right (within same faction) |
| 13:02.07 | cncfanatics | krka, are u nice to beggars ? |
| 13:02.18 | krka | yes |
| 13:02.21 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 13:02.22 | art3mis | and Hellow Kitty Fun time adventure |
| 13:02.24 | krka | they always get money if i can spare it |
| 13:02.26 | cncfanatics | can I have 5000g plx ? :p |
| 13:02.35 | krka | we have to take care of our less fortunate friends |
| 13:02.39 | krka | sorry, i am broke now :( |
| 13:02.49 | Health | cncfanatics: You can exit the arena... |
| 13:02.50 | krka | need to grind for more gold, so i can give it away |
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| 13:05.30 | abbat_w | pb_ee1: http://www.studentport.ru/prikol/flash/detail.php?ID=3315 |
| 13:05.34 | cncfanatics | Health, most dont know that and desparatly try to kill 5 ppl :p |
| 13:05.41 | abbat_w | pb_ee1: this flash called 'night elf' ;) |
| 13:05.45 | abbat_w | look please ;) |
| 13:05.51 | pb_ee1 | opening atm :p |
| 13:06.14 | abbat_w | maked by russian author ;) |
| 13:06.19 | pb_ee1 | (i'm at work so I hope it won't pop up a pair of tits on my screen ;p |
| 13:06.21 | pb_ee1 | ) |
| 13:06.26 | abbat_w | no |
| 13:06.34 | abbat_w | it's real flash 'Night Elf' ;) |
| 13:06.41 | pb_ee1 | let's see that ;p |
| 13:08.29 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 13:08.50 | pb_ee1 | wondering what happens at the end ;p |
| 13:08.57 | abbat_w | :) |
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| 13:09.28 | pb_ee1 | ok, now i haven't seen any night elf in the video, that's normal? :p |
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| 13:09.38 | pb_ee1 | Very funny btw ;) |
| 13:09.57 | pb_ee1 | I've got something similar to show you (but not so funny), if I have the chance to find it back |
| 13:10.54 | abbat_w | pb_ee1, i don't know why author name this 'night elf'. maybe because 'night life' and 'elf' mean 'unnormal' compare to ppl who don't know about wow and fantasy? :) |
| 13:11.38 | pb_ee1 | ok found it ^^ |
| 13:11.42 | pb_ee1 | http://www.lodger.tv/ |
| 13:11.58 | ccKep | hm, anyone familiar with php / ereg <-> preg ? |
| 13:12.12 | pb_ee1 | go there than roll the thingy and have three one eyed guys |
| 13:12.23 | pb_ee1 | then select "i love death" |
| 13:12.40 | pb_ee1 | ccKep: a bit |
| 13:12.55 | ccKep | well, what my problem is: |
| 13:13.25 | ccKep | I want to replace my ereg_replace() with preg_replace, because preg_replace is said to be faster... but I never worked with perl compatible regular expressions |
| 13:13.38 | ccKep | basically, I just need: |
| 13:13.39 | cncfanatics | I never used ereg sorry |
| 13:13.42 | ccKep | $lines = ereg_replace("([^']+)'s (.+) was resisted\.", "\\1's \\2 was resisted by ".$logger.".", $lines); |
| 13:13.45 | ccKep | with preg_replace |
| 13:13.53 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 13:14.00 | cncfanatics | that looks like valid preg code tbh |
| 13:14.07 | cncfanatics | but its been long ago since I used it |
| 13:14.08 | pb_ee1 | yep but isn't |
| 13:14.29 | cncfanatics | start & ending slashes |
| 13:14.36 | ccKep | works fine in ereg, but it just takes too long to process the text so I wanted to try preg |
| 13:14.58 | cncfanatics | $lines = ereg_replace("/([^']+)'s (.+) was resisted\./", "\\1's \\2 was resisted by ".$logger.".", $lines); |
| 13:14.59 | cncfanatics | try that |
| 13:15.09 | cncfanatics | Start & ending trails are required in preg if I remember well |
| 13:15.14 | pb_ee1 | $lines = preg_replace("/([^']+)'s (.+) was resisted\./", "$1's $2 was resisted by ".$logger.".", $lines) shoud do the trick |
| 13:15.27 | ccKep | I'll try, thanks :D |
| 13:15.32 | cncfanatics | I was first pb_ee1 ! |
| 13:15.42 | pb_ee1 | you didn't replace ereg_replace :p^ |
| 13:15.44 | cncfanatics | oh, the damn dollars signs |
| 13:15.56 | pb_ee1 | and yup the dollars signs ;) |
| 13:15.58 | cncfanatics | btw ccKep |
| 13:16.08 | cncfanatics | if ur using php4 or above (I guess you are) |
| 13:16.21 | cncfanatics | $lines = preg_replace("/([^']+)'s (.+) was resisted\./", "$1's $2 was resisted by $logger".", $lines); will work too |
| 13:16.28 | cncfanatics | no need to put variables outside the quotes |
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| 13:16.39 | ccKep | yeah, but just used to it ;) |
| 13:16.54 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: right, but it's more easier to read by putting them outside |
| 13:17.13 | pb_ee1 | you can use both actually, but I prefer putting the variables outside |
| 13:17.29 | ccKep | putting 20+ mb of text into ereg/preg takes it time.. ^.^ |
| 13:17.35 | abbat_w | ahaha ;) |
| 13:17.38 | pb_ee1 | doh |
| 13:17.39 | abbat_w | "i love death" - very fun ;) |
| 13:18.01 | pb_ee1 | abbat_w: the end is quite cool ;) and i like the music! |
| 13:18.14 | abbat_w | yes ;) |
| 13:18.31 | cncfanatics | ccKep |
| 13:18.31 | abbat_w | ok, i won't work and have site with nice movies ;) |
| 13:18.35 | abbat_w | so... |
| 13:18.38 | cncfanatics | parsing spell resists from the combat log eh ? |
| 13:18.46 | ccKep | not only spell resists |
| 13:18.58 | abbat_w | hmmm |
| 13:19.04 | cncfanatics | was resisted. is only used for spells that I know off |
| 13:19.07 | cncfanatics | melee abilities use miss |
| 13:19.07 | abbat_w | someone already make combat log parser |
| 13:19.15 | abbat_w | maybe this is what you need? |
| 13:19.22 | abbat_w | i see one praser at wowi |
| 13:19.24 | cncfanatics | WWS would work fine to track spell resists |
| 13:19.29 | cncfanatics | and about everything else too |
| 13:19.59 | abbat_w | cncfanatics, melee/ranged missed, all other resists i think |
| 13:20.04 | sag_ich_nicht | abbat_w you mean like parser-3.0 ? :P |
| 13:20.24 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, what is there thats not melee & ranged except spells ? |
| 13:20.26 | abbat_w | sag_ich_nicht, no ;) windows application for parse wow combat log to analize it |
| 13:20.35 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/phpCombatStats/char.php?char=Void%20Reaver&report=Void%20Reaver%20-%20Testlog |
| 13:20.37 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:20.54 | ccKep | (that was a 1mb testlog I recorded a week or so ago) |
| 13:21.01 | cncfanatics | ccKep, why not use WWS ? |
| 13:21.15 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone want my 233 MB combat log file? |
| 13:21.19 | sag_ich_nicht | >:P |
| 13:21.24 | ccKep | I don't like the loading times on wws, and they delete hosted reports after ~15d |
| 13:21.27 | abbat_w | 233mb combat log? |
| 13:21.30 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 13:21.31 | deltron | lol thorns are useless eh? |
| 13:21.41 | ccKep | well, I'm not sure about thorns |
| 13:21.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i have been logging everything since december 2006 |
| 13:21.46 | ccKep | the combatlog has 11 resists on it |
| 13:21.47 | abbat_w | sag_ich_nicht it's from MC time? :) |
| 13:21.51 | deltron | or does thorns do no damage? |
| 13:21.58 | abbat_w | does |
| 13:22.01 | ccKep | but it also has "TankXYZ reflects XX nature damage to Void Reaver." |
| 13:22.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:21] <abbat_w> sag_ich_nicht it's from MC time? :) <--no, i just have combat log logging turned on |
| 13:22.06 | abbat_w | you reflect some dmg back |
| 13:22.07 | ccKep | so I guess that is thorns |
| 13:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and WoWCombatLog.txt is 233 MB big |
| 13:22.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 13:22.35 | deltron | where is WWS? |
| 13:22.42 | abbat_w | ccKep, "TankXYZ reflects XX nature damage to Void Reaver." - it's a thorns |
| 13:22.56 | ccKep | but XX varies a lot, dunno why |
| 13:23.04 | *** part/#wowace frop (n=mmmh@unaffiliated/frop) |
| 13:23.06 | ccKep | sometimes it just reflects 7 :O |
| 13:23.17 | abbat_w | thirns reflect some percent back |
| 13:23.20 | abbat_w | thorns |
| 13:23.32 | abbat_w | but i'm not a druid and don't know about %% |
| 13:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 13:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 13:23.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i have to get on the PTR |
| 13:23.51 | ccKep | tooltip says "reflects 25 damage to the attacker" or something like that, that confused me on that |
| 13:23.53 | sag_ich_nicht | pitchlimit~ |
| 13:23.55 | pb_ee1 | ccKep: are you able to read French or not? ;p |
| 13:24.03 | ccKep | eh, no xD |
| 13:24.18 | pb_ee1 | too bad, got a site made by a friend that contains usefull info on regex ;) |
| 13:24.27 | ccKep | german & english ;) |
| 13:24.29 | abbat_w | heh |
| 13:24.33 | deltron | PTR changes look real cool :D |
| 13:24.33 | pb_ee1 | <3 regex, even if they are slooooooow |
| 13:24.40 | cncfanatics | ccKep, for regexes you can use php.net I guess |
| 13:24.44 | ccKep | (preg_replace still doing it's job) |
| 13:24.44 | abbat_w | perl documentation have nice regexp info |
| 13:24.47 | cncfanatics | and for ur combat log, I suggest browsing the EJ forums |
| 13:24.51 | cncfanatics | and searching for WWS |
| 13:25.03 | ccKep | I know wws (and using it) |
| 13:25.14 | pb_ee1 | ccKep: just a quick note, if you have a HUGE load of data, str_replace is MUCH MORE faster than preg_replace |
| 13:25.27 | abbat_w | yep |
| 13:25.27 | ccKep | but I dislike it a bit (the offline reports aren't that fancy as the hosted reports) |
| 13:25.38 | pb_ee1 | and I mean it, if you have 20MB of data, you *should* use str_replace |
| 13:25.51 | cncfanatics | you can't do everything with str_replace can you ? :p |
| 13:25.58 | pb_ee1 | nope, unfortunately :( |
| 13:26.06 | pb_ee1 | but you must absolutely find a way for so much data |
| 13:26.30 | ccKep | I _could_ try $lines = str_replace("was resisted.", "was resisted by ".$logger.".", $lines); |
| 13:26.31 | pb_ee1 | 20MB of text means... how many characters? ;p thousands, millions? |
| 13:26.51 | abbat_w | 20 * 1024 * 1024 symbols ;) |
| 13:27.20 | pb_ee1 | Ho, and btw, i'm working on the enUS release of my roster ( http://zorglub6.free.fr/roster/ ) |
| 13:27.45 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 13:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | PTR download is going pretty fast |
| 13:27.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 13:27.56 | cncfanatics | its frFr atm pb_ee1 ? |
| 13:28.00 | pb_ee1 | yup |
| 13:28.08 | pb_ee1 | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=299066908&sid=2 |
| 13:28.17 | cncfanatics | and gah Nardilley is gone and I lost my chatlogs AGAIN |
| 13:28.58 | Mikk | ~logs |
| 13:28.58 | purl | logs is, like, apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 13:29.00 | Mikk | cncfanatics: ^ |
| 13:29.18 | cncfanatics | Mikk, private chat is not logged |
| 13:29.57 | Mikk | ah :> |
| 13:30.11 | Mikk | you didn't qualify which logs :P |
| 13:30.15 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: no worries, i've log everything. Do you want me to send you a copy? |
| 13:30.22 | deltron | http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/azalin84/NewDesigns.jpg |
| 13:30.22 | cncfanatics | sure pb_ee1 |
| 13:30.25 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 13:30.26 | cncfanatics | if you can ;) |
| 13:30.36 | pb_ee1 | I can't :p |
| 13:30.37 | abbat_w | btw guys, some times ago i see mod which allow to type lua code and execute it |
| 13:30.42 | cncfanatics | need Nargilley to to enlight me again about the HUGE waterfall api again as I lost the logs |
| 13:30.44 | abbat_w | no one know this mod? |
| 13:30.49 | cncfanatics | yes abbat_w |
| 13:30.53 | cncfanatics | omnibus would do that |
| 13:30.57 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: btw, dunno why the roster does not have more success |
| 13:31.00 | cncfanatics | or luapad (not ace but its lightweight) |
| 13:31.08 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, not a lot of frFr client users around |
| 13:31.14 | abbat_w | thanks |
| 13:31.18 | cncfanatics | I'm using enGB myself |
| 13:31.18 | pb_ee1 | well, i've posted on the frFR forums |
| 13:31.22 | pb_ee1 | same here |
| 13:31.25 | deltron | execute lua from in game? |
| 13:31.32 | abbat_w | deltron yes |
| 13:31.33 | cncfanatics | I read the frFr forums, but I use an enGB client |
| 13:31.35 | deltron | haha nice |
| 13:31.48 | pb_ee1 | I've also posted on JudgeHype forums, but no answers |
| 13:32.02 | abbat_w | i want to play with SetAttribute() for buttons |
| 13:32.02 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, I think that as long as it doesn't use enGB it'll be poor |
| 13:32.09 | *** join/#wowace raider|poul (n=jedirc@s-hjem.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk) |
| 13:32.14 | abbat_w | Need to modify some addons for arena using |
| 13:32.17 | cncfanatics | also, people prefer hosted stuff instead of having to host the php/myself scripts themselves |
| 13:32.22 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: well sure, enUS release is almost ready |
| 13:32.27 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell |
| 13:32.32 | sag_ich_nicht | the PTR downloader was at 100% |
| 13:32.33 | sag_ich_nicht | closed |
| 13:32.35 | pb_ee1 | but I would have been pleased if the roster could have more success in frFR community |
| 13:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | now it's at 0% again |
| 13:32.58 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you blizzard D: |
| 13:33.12 | deltron | :( |
| 13:33.16 | pb_ee1 | sag_ich_nicht: it's a hidden functionnality :D |
| 13:33.17 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, try hosting it urself |
| 13:33.20 | raider|poul | http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3/wowscrnshot071307151720ev5.jpg /flex |
| 13:33.20 | cncfanatics | and letting people upload it |
| 13:33.35 | cncfanatics | most ppl dont have webhost access |
| 13:33.36 | *** join/#wowace cog|book (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 13:33.40 | cncfanatics | and cba if they have (me for example) |
| 13:33.42 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: well that's precisely not the p oint ;p |
| 13:34.05 | pb_ee1 | *this* roster is made to be installed on your server |
| 13:34.13 | pb_ee1 | :) |
| 13:34.39 | cncfanatics | people are too lazy for that :( |
| 13:34.46 | pb_ee1 | even webmasters? :( |
| 13:34.46 | Fisker- | wtfux is it raider|poul? |
| 13:34.57 | raider|poul | my raidtracking tool i am working on :) |
| 13:35.00 | *** join/#wowace hani (n=hani@207-237-217-101.c3-0.avec-ubr11.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 13:35.02 | *** join/#wowace Uhuru (n=dehli@AAnnecy-157-1-24-29.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:35.10 | Fisker- | looks cool |
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| 13:35.16 | Uhuru | hi, i got some bugs with aguf |
| 13:35.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ah here we go now it's patching |
| 13:35.50 | Uhuru | when i target a player with more than 10 k life his life is often not correctly displayed |
| 13:35.58 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: guilds usually (always?) have some forums, so I think they have the possibility to install this roster |
| 13:36.15 | pb_ee1 | it's *very* easy to install: upload, launch the installation script, done |
| 13:36.24 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 13:36.33 | Uhuru | i'm druid, often when i morph / demorph the energy / mana / rage bar color don't change |
| 13:36.34 | cncfanatics | then I guess its mainly cuz not a lot of guilds have officers with the frFR client |
| 13:36.43 | pb_ee1 | that's possible |
| 13:36.53 | cncfanatics | Uhuru, I get the same bugs with pitbull |
| 13:36.59 | cncfanatics | health bar stays empty with my 12k hp |
| 13:37.05 | cncfanatics | most of the time after a ressurect |
| 13:37.06 | CIA-22 | 03adelea * r43717 10GridManaBars/ (GMBLocale-enUS.lua GridManaBars.lua): GridManaBars : Added support for the hiding of pet mana bars if pets are enabled - as determined by existance of GridLayout.options.args["petcolor"] |
| 13:37.07 | pb_ee1 | but i thought it would really be a very cool thing for people playing in frFR to have a roster that manage frFR AND enUS both at the same time |
| 13:37.18 | pb_ee1 | seems not |
| 13:37.20 | pb_ee1 | :'( |
| 13:37.22 | cncfanatics | well currently it dsnt do enGB so :) |
| 13:37.29 | cncfanatics | (btw enUS = enGB for the record) |
| 13:37.31 | pb_ee1 | it DOES :p |
| 13:37.35 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 13:37.37 | pb_ee1 | it does manage both |
| 13:37.45 | pb_ee1 | but the interface is not in enUS that's all |
| 13:37.48 | cncfanatics | guess ppl just cba to upload stuff then & prefer it online directly |
| 13:37.56 | Uhuru | i got this resurrect display problem and others but i don't know pitbull |
| 13:38.10 | pb_ee1 | check by yourself: http://zorglub6.free.fr/roster/demo/tradeskills.php?trade=alchemy (frFR and enUS) |
| 13:38.29 | cncfanatics | Uhuru, its another unitframes addon similar to aguf |
| 13:38.40 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, sec, coding atm :) |
| 13:38.45 | cncfanatics | and the waterfall api is quite irritating |
| 13:38.46 | pb_ee1 | you can even search "agility" and you'll get all potions in frFR and enUS that boosts agility ;-) |
| 13:38.49 | cncfanatics | and I cant test my god damn code |
| 13:38.55 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: no worries :p |
| 13:39.34 | Fisker- | LOLOLOLOLOL |
| 13:39.48 | Fisker- | Man & Girlfriend wins a lottery |
| 13:39.57 | Fisker- | Money from the lottery goes to the girlfriends account |
| 13:40.02 | Fisker- | she leave him and he sues her, and he loses |
| 13:40.02 | cncfanatics | someone that knows the waterfall API except me please control this code :p http://cnc.pastey.net/70743 |
| 13:40.03 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 13:40.11 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, why did he lose ? |
| 13:40.13 | cncfanatics | quite silly |
| 13:40.24 | cncfanatics | and thats some huge bitch of a girlfriend |
| 13:40.34 | Mikk | because your economy isn't shared until legally documented so |
| 13:40.37 | Mikk | e.g. through marrying |
| 13:40.43 | Fisker- | cncfanatics because there was no "proof" of an agreement that the money were to be split |
| 13:40.58 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, well, I guess that guy got owned then |
| 13:41.01 | cncfanatics | did he win, or did she ? |
| 13:41.10 | Fisker- | they both won |
| 13:41.11 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=dwafqimv4e1vw&a=26 <<< maybe I'm just dump... but if I add all the "Dmg. Out" Totals together, I get 3,907,970.. but at the top it says 3,850,168.. anyone know if WWS is buggy? |
| 13:41.16 | ccKep | *dumb |
| 13:41.20 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, the ticket is on the name of one of them |
| 13:41.30 | Fisker- | Not in this country |
| 13:41.34 | Fisker- | and probably not in the other country |
| 13:41.36 | cncfanatics | ccKep, is there friendly damage somewhere ? |
| 13:41.39 | Fisker- | You buy a ticket |
| 13:41.47 | Fisker- | The person who delivers the ticket = winner |
| 13:41.49 | art3mis | why did they put it in hers instead of just opening a joint? |
| 13:41.50 | Uhuru | there is no forum topic about aguf, how can i report bugs about it ? |
| 13:41.58 | ccKep | hm... that could be |
| 13:42.03 | ccKep | watery grave 'n stuff |
| 13:42.17 | Fisker- | So if i had a lottery ticket and lost it, and someone found it and it happened to have millions of dollars on it |
| 13:42.20 | ccKep | rampant infection too |
| 13:42.20 | Fisker- | then i wouldn't get the money |
| 13:42.23 | Fisker- | but the finder would |
| 13:42.23 | ccKep | *looks* |
| 13:42.27 | Mikk | correct |
| 13:42.33 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, same here, if she brought in the ticket, well, too bad for the guy |
| 13:43.01 | Fisker- | well the story just said it was one that they "shared" |
| 13:43.05 | cncfanatics | and even if they opened a joint account, if the GF intented to leave him, she would have made so it would have been transfered to her account anyway |
| 13:43.41 | art3mis | well yes but for large transfers you need double signing |
| 13:43.41 | Fisker- | yeah it was just transfered to her account because she gave them the ticket |
| 13:44.10 | art3mis | unless she did like 800,000 tiny transfers ;P |
| 13:44.19 | art3mis | stupid guy anyways |
| 13:44.50 | Fisker- | Next time i'm definately busting a cap in her ass before putting in the ticket myself |
| 13:45.02 | Uhuru | someone can tell me how to report a bug about aguf ? |
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| 13:45.32 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.44 | Mikk | ^ |
| 13:45.45 | cncfanatics | that would work |
| 13:45.47 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43718 10Grid/Grid/ (6 files): Grid: Add support for party pets. |
| 13:45.48 | cncfanatics | but he'll probably do |
| 13:45.55 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.58 | art3mis | he sorta needs to be on for that to work though ;P |
| 13:46.17 | art3mis | pb ftl |
| 13:46.24 | Fisker- | nah cncfanatics |
| 13:46.24 | Punkie` | im unsure why you would want to use pitbull over aguf |
| 13:46.26 | cncfanatics | Uhuru, I'd just open a forum thread if there aint one |
| 13:46.29 | Fisker- | it's ag` |
| 13:46.37 | cncfanatics | P |
| 13:46.46 | cncfanatics | Punkie`, I like modular stuff |
| 13:46.55 | art3mis | cnc loves tha bloat |
| 13:47.04 | Mikk | so if kenco modularizes ktm.... |
| 13:47.05 | Mikk | whoa =) |
| 13:47.16 | cncfanatics | Mikk, kenco is a lazy bum :p |
| 13:47.16 | Punkie` | modular? but 1 module is almost equal to aguf itself? |
| 13:47.22 | art3mis | well bloat and 15 lines in yer addon list ;P |
| 13:47.42 | cncfanatics | Punkie`, it does run smooth from what I saw, dont rly care about the amount of lines :p |
| 13:47.50 | cncfanatics | should benchmark it someday to see if ckk did his job well |
| 13:47.54 | art3mis | cncfanatics: go join a raid ;P |
| 13:48.00 | cncfanatics | art3mis, I raid daily |
| 13:48.02 | Punkie` | yeah, have you ever joined a 25 man? |
| 13:48.10 | cncfanatics | see the above :p |
| 13:48.11 | Punkie` | its like constant screenfreezes |
| 13:48.15 | art3mis | and you use pb for raidframes right? |
| 13:48.17 | art3mis | ;) |
| 13:48.22 | cncfanatics | art3mis, yea when I need them |
| 13:48.26 | cncfanatics | they're disabled most of the time |
| 13:48.29 | art3mis | see |
| 13:48.31 | cncfanatics | but when I enable em I dont notice any difference |
| 13:48.43 | art3mis | i dislike pb for 2 reasons |
| 13:48.46 | break19 | art3mis: uhm, fyi, he fixed the raid slowdowns a LONG LONG time ago :p |
| 13:48.56 | Punkie` | break19: no he didn't :P |
| 13:49.00 | Punkie` | the freezes are still there |
| 13:49.03 | break19 | he did on MY system heh |
| 13:49.04 | art3mis | 1. its like cart and rpat started off with a wicked idea and then bloated up for the winter |
| 13:49.16 | Uhuru | i will try pitbull ... |
| 13:49.21 | art3mis | 2. too many lines and sub modules in my addon list ;) |
| 13:49.24 | Punkie` | installed pitbull -> freezes; uninstalled pitbull -> super duper 64fps cap once again |
| 13:49.34 | cncfanatics | art3mis, do you stare at that list all day long ? |
| 13:49.40 | break19 | <- never got 64M heh |
| 13:49.42 | cncfanatics | if not , why do you care ? :p |
| 13:49.43 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 13:49.46 | break19 | err 64fps |
| 13:49.51 | cncfanatics | if its bloats raid performance i'll check it though |
| 13:50.01 | cncfanatics | cuz I hate god damn slowdowns in raids |
| 13:50.07 | Punkie` | sage + perfectraid = all you need |
| 13:50.08 | art3mis | go join av |
| 13:50.14 | art3mis | with all the pb raidframes on |
| 13:50.19 | art3mis | as you'd normally do a raid |
| 13:50.25 | art3mis | it will make you cry |
| 13:50.26 | cncfanatics | I'm prot lol |
| 13:50.33 | cncfanatics | I never join AV, but I will one game I guess |
| 13:50.36 | break19 | art3mis: its no slower for me than it is if I use all standard bliz stuff. :p |
| 13:50.41 | art3mis | hehe tis the easiest way to test it ;P |
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| 13:50.50 | cncfanatics | I never noticed difference, there might be some though |
| 13:50.56 | cncfanatics | my comp is crap so I even lag in raids without addons |
| 13:50.57 | art3mis | break19: i have no idea why but it behaves badly |
| 13:50.58 | Punkie` | pitbull added roughly 1MiB per hour to Ace2 library's memory usage |
| 13:51.07 | cncfanatics | per HOUR ? |
| 13:51.10 | Punkie` | for me, at least |
| 13:51.11 | Punkie` | yep |
| 13:51.15 | cncfanatics | is that much lol ? |
| 13:51.18 | Punkie` | yes |
| 13:51.19 | cncfanatics | one meg per hour come on :p |
| 13:51.26 | art3mis | i want minigroup back |
| 13:51.30 | cncfanatics | oldschool addons added that per minute |
| 13:51.31 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 13:51.32 | art3mis | i liked minigroup |
| 13:51.44 | Punkie` | cncfanatics: really? which? |
| 13:52.01 | cncfanatics | first versions of decursive |
| 13:52.04 | cncfanatics | that didnt recyle ANY table at all |
| 13:52.04 | art3mis | haha decursive |
| 13:52.05 | Punkie` | 1MiB of basic data in text are a fuck load |
| 13:52.08 | sag_ich_nicht | I have currently 386 folders in my Addons Folder. |
| 13:52.16 | krka | nice |
| 13:52.22 | sag_ich_nicht | all of which are enabled but 3. |
| 13:52.22 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: try for 8088 ;P |
| 13:52.23 | krka | how long does it take to reload ui? |
| 13:52.31 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 13:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bout 20 seconds |
| 13:52.39 | krka | not too bad |
| 13:52.43 | cncfanatics | less then me with 50 addons :/ |
| 13:52.49 | cncfanatics | I need to optimize soonish me thinks |
| 13:52.53 | cncfanatics | liek tonight if there's no raid |
| 13:52.53 | sag_ich_nicht | moar liek |
| 13:52.55 | Punkie` | cncfanatics: what is your on load memory usage? |
| 13:52.55 | sag_ich_nicht | your PC sucks |
| 13:52.59 | krka | 20 seconds is a lot for development though :) |
| 13:53.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 1035/2048MB (50.54%) RAM free. |
| 13:53.01 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, Sound Blaster Audigy, and 424.38 GB of 596.17 GB available on 1 drive(s). |
| 13:53.09 | krka | i think i have 3-5 seconds with just 1 addon |
| 13:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i can not see the loading screen with no addons. |
| 13:53.24 | cncfanatics | Punkie`, wow takes 250 megs of mem in my ctrl+alt+delete report |
| 13:53.25 | krka | wow |
| 13:53.30 | Punkie` | cncfanatics: ... |
| 13:53.31 | cncfanatics | but my comp sucks and freezes up on a regular base |
| 13:53.34 | sag_ich_nicht | it's press enter bam there you are in WoW. |
| 13:53.44 | art3mis | i love that my dualcore 3800 shows as 2x1ghz |
| 13:53.44 | cncfanatics | even firefox takes 200 megs for some reason |
| 13:53.45 | krka | i have a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ with 3 gb ram |
| 13:53.46 | art3mis | it's awesome! |
| 13:53.47 | cncfanatics | suspecting viruses |
| 13:53.49 | krka | still get loading screen |
| 13:53.54 | Punkie` | cncfanatics: im not even talking about that |
| 13:54.00 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 13:54.01 | krka | semi crappy graphics card though |
| 13:54.12 | cncfanatics | gonna get a debian box on a freshly bought laptop soon |
| 13:54.40 | krka | debian ftw |
| 13:54.41 | *** join/#wowace trh (n=hmmm@e176247019.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 13:54.41 | art3mis | need tos ell my lappy and get a new one |
| 13:54.54 | Punkie` | cncfanatics: do you have an addon similar to performancefu or the blizzard action bars unmodified? |
| 13:54.55 | art3mis | theres something gimpy with the hdd controller |
| 13:55.10 | art3mis | it LOVES winders but hates any nix driver that tries to use it |
| 13:55.11 | cncfanatics | Punkie`, nope |
| 13:55.31 | cncfanatics | art3mis, I'm probably gonna buy one and get the seller to preinstall linux |
| 13:55.42 | art3mis | check tigerdirect |
| 13:55.49 | cncfanatics | with preinstall meaning, installing it with my next to it cuz i'm a lazy bum |
| 13:55.50 | art3mis | thier acer models are nice |
| 13:55.55 | cncfanatics | but still want my custom settings |
| 13:56.01 | art3mis | 699 for a dualcore 2.6gig |
| 13:56.28 | art3mis | 160gb hdd 2gbmem and a decent enough gaming video card |
| 13:56.36 | Punkie` | cncfanatics: you should get it, look at your increasing rate :P |
| 13:56.41 | art3mis | not to mention widescreen ;) |
| 13:56.58 | Punkie` | widescreen is amazing for gaming |
| 13:57.03 | art3mis | uyp |
| 13:57.10 | art3mis | i have it at home and my work oen isnt |
| 13:57.12 | art3mis | one |
| 13:57.14 | cncfanatics | art3mis, as a laptop ? |
| 13:57.16 | Mikk | Punkie`: what about standard blizz actionbars? |
| 13:57.16 | art3mis | i cant paly at work ;P |
| 13:57.19 | art3mis | cncfanatics: yup |
| 13:57.25 | cncfanatics | price ? |
| 13:57.28 | art3mis | 699ish |
| 13:57.29 | cncfanatics | and link me to the webbie please |
| 13:57.35 | Punkie` | Mikk: hovering over the latency bar shows your memory usage |
| 13:57.36 | art3mis | www.tigerdirect.com |
| 13:57.43 | cncfanatics | ati or nvidia vid card ? |
| 13:57.49 | art3mis | depends what you pick |
| 13:57.49 | Mikk | Punkie`: ahhh ok ;) |
| 13:58.02 | Uhuru | cncfanatics are you the aguf developper ? |
| 13:58.04 | art3mis | just browse through there thats where i buy my lappys from for work clients |
| 13:58.27 | art3mis | cuz im lazy |
| 13:58.27 | Mikk | Uhuru: no, andreasg aka `ag aka ag` is |
| 13:58.35 | cncfanatics | Uhuru, no :p |
| 13:58.40 | cncfanatics | ag is the aguf developer |
| 13:58.54 | cncfanatics | ag unit frames ;) |
| 13:58.56 | deltron | lol |
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| 13:59.29 | hani- | god I hate violation |
| 13:59.32 | cncfanatics | art3mis, the laptop I see from there at 700 has 1.7 gb proc |
| 13:59.32 | hani- | the damn thing NEVER works |
| 13:59.35 | cncfanatics | not 2.6 |
| 13:59.38 | Mikk | lol? |
| 13:59.45 | Mikk | violation always works for me :S |
| 13:59.46 | Punkie` | hani-: uninstall it, job done |
| 13:59.52 | Punkie` | and it works perfectly for me |
| 13:59.52 | art3mis | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2912745&CatId=1902 |
| 13:59.53 | hani- | Threat-1.0.lua:448 table index is nil |
| 13:59.55 | hani- | when I attack anything |
| 14:00.00 | hani- | and the error doesnt go way |
| 14:00.06 | Biceps^ | works perfectly for me |
| 14:00.14 | Punkie` | that's threat-1.0, not violation |
| 14:00.20 | hani- | omen works though |
| 14:00.21 | Mikk | hani-: delete the violation folder and reinstall vio again |
| 14:00.31 | cncfanatics | and update omen |
| 14:00.34 | art3mis | oops 1.6 my bad |
| 14:00.36 | cncfanatics | they both use threat-1.0 |
| 14:00.44 | cncfanatics | so if one is outdated ur asking for shit :p |
| 14:00.47 | art3mis | 1.6-1.8 for the centrino duos |
| 14:01.10 | hani- | they're both latest version |
| 14:01.12 | Biceps^ | if you dont use embeds, make sure your threat library is up to date |
| 14:01.15 | art3mis | welp off to work for me |
| 14:01.18 | art3mis | ciao |
| 14:01.34 | Punkie` | art3mis: muahah, 2 hours of work left for me :P |
| 14:01.46 | hani- | I do use embeds |
| 14:01.59 | cncfanatics | 30 mins left work for me |
| 14:02.01 | cncfanatics | beat that |
| 14:02.16 | hani- | it bitches about the threat lib inside of violation |
| 14:02.26 | cncfanatics | hani-; I dunno then, bug cryect I guess, or was it antiarc, cant remember |
| 14:02.30 | cncfanatics | ~antiarc |
| 14:02.30 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, antiarc is the author of Sanity, Hemlock, and Omen, and project lead on Threat-1.0, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ |
| 14:02.36 | hani- | k |
| 14:02.37 | cncfanatics | its antiarc |
| 14:02.39 | cncfanatics | go bug hi |
| 14:02.41 | cncfanatics | him* |
| 14:02.50 | cncfanatics | ~seen antiarc |
| 14:02.52 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 71 messages. Is idling for 4h 10m 53s, last said: '15-16, yeah'. |
| 14:02.55 | Uhuru | is there a way with aguf to create one ore more detachable frames ? for the MTS ? |
| 14:02.56 | cncfanatics | he's been afk since a while though |
| 14:02.58 | cncfanatics | as you can see |
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| 14:04.21 | deltron | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/broom-mount.jpg -_- |
| 14:06.22 | Mikk | hani-: or just disable the threat mod in vio |
| 14:06.40 | Fisker- | deltron |
| 14:06.45 | Fisker- | www.mmo-champion.com |
| 14:06.53 | Saladin | ... |
| 14:08.22 | cncfanatics | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3153880&Sku=M975-5150&SRCCODE=&CMP=ILC-GUIDE&GSID=40615957&GSESID=ygnm2uqraxwon455e0a5i555&GSCID=10 is one damn sexy laptop |
| 14:08.28 | cncfanatics | and not too expensive either |
| 14:09.04 | Fisker- | i'd definately hit it cncfanatics |
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| 14:10.02 | Dustwhisper | ibm thinkpads > all for me |
| 14:10.55 | deltron | Dustwhisper: yap |
| 14:11.08 | deltron | I'd really recommend against purchasing a gateway |
| 14:11.14 | Dustwhisper | I've had 3 thinkpads |
| 14:11.18 | Dustwhisper | my father has probably had 5-6 |
| 14:11.20 | [dRaCo] | not for gaming, though... but gaming on notebooks is... |
| 14:11.24 | Dustwhisper | never seen better laptops tbh |
| 14:11.38 | Fisker- | but would you hit it Dustwhisper? |
| 14:11.42 | deltron | my work uses thinkpads |
| 14:11.47 | deltron | I own a thinkpad |
| 14:11.56 | deltron | I can't wait to get my T61 :D |
| 14:12.00 | Dustwhisper | you can actually hit a thinkpad =D |
| 14:13.32 | Fisker- | i doubt any of you would have sex with a laptop |
| 14:17.09 | cncfanatics | that shit comes with media center though |
| 14:17.22 | cncfanatics | lets see if I can get the customer support of that site to ship it without it & at a discount ofc |
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| 14:19.06 | Fisker- | cncfanatics it's refurbished that's probably as much discount you'll get :P |
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| 14:19.50 | Fisker- | IGN has interviews and stuff |
| 14:19.57 | Fisker- | but they're only available in highdef as subscriber |
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| 14:20.08 | Fisker- | but since IGN owns fileplanet, fileplanet usually hosts those movies as well in high def :P |
| 14:21.24 | yacoob | zomg |
| 14:21.42 | yacoob | I see great whine wave coming after this cc nerf |
| 14:22.42 | Fisker- | ah well it's always something that simpsons are poking fun at EA's retarded "omg game for each and every platform _EVAR_" approach to popular games |
| 14:22.46 | Health | You are a great whine wave. |
| 14:22.58 | Fisker- | "The Simpsons Game will be out for every platform EVER MADE" |
| 14:22.59 | Fisker- | :P |
| 14:25.00 | cncfanatics | 6 minutes left till end of work |
| 14:25.05 | cncfanatics | woooooohoooooooooo |
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| 14:26.22 | deltron | Fisker-: you'd like this - http://youtube.com/watch?v=GuLPGIC9AoI |
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| 14:30.58 | Fisker- | old deltron :( |
| 14:31.02 | jme | i nearly two shotted a 70 hunter last night |
| 14:31.04 | jme | true story |
| 14:31.27 | sbu | 2* 5k pyro? :/ |
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| 14:31.40 | jme | no... 2800 aimed shot and arcane/steady shot |
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| 14:31.49 | jme | <- also a 70 hunter |
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| 14:32.00 | jme | he killed the person i was escorting through stormgarde in arathi, heh |
| 14:32.31 | jme | then i kill him in less than 5 seconds, he resses and immediately Gains Fishing in my combat log |
| 14:32.43 | jme | classic |
| 14:33.05 | Pkekyo | fishing? |
| 14:33.07 | Pkekyo | >.< |
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| 14:33.45 | Pkekyo | <--- about to leave a guild I've been in for more than two years...this sucks >.< |
| 14:34.01 | sbu | mhh - why? |
| 14:34.02 | raider|poul | then dont |
| 14:34.22 | jme | Pkekyo: yeah, he was fishing in the lake outside stormgarde when we went in to get the elite quests done, he tried to attack us on our way out |
| 14:34.57 | Pkekyo | 'cause the original GM quit, gave power to one of the newer officers, and power got to the new guy's head...completely destroyed the guild for the sake of faster pve progress |
| 14:35.52 | Fisker- | http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/Sparta_Fourchan.swf lolwut |
| 14:36.10 | Pkekyo | hahaha |
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| 14:48.42 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r43719 10BunchOfBars/Tooltip/Tooltip.lua: BunchOfBars: - small update (yes I'm still working on stuff :) |
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| 14:59.59 | jme | what level rep do you need to use T5 on the PTRs? |
| 15:00.23 | nevcairiel | i dont think PTR has a T5 vendor again |
| 15:00.32 | jme | oh :( |
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| 15:03.34 | Fisker- | but it was either friendly or honored |
| 15:04.19 | nevcairiel | honored violet eye was it before |
| 15:05.50 | kenlyric | there's no new content to test. why would they have a gear vendor? |
| 15:06.04 | Matrix110 | Because people spam forums now |
| 15:06.15 | Matrix110 | because all people wiping on Attumen cant get their pew pew T5 gear |
| 15:06.20 | kenlyric | despite what people on the forums things, ptr is not so you can get an uber powered character and duel. |
| 15:06.27 | kenlyric | *think |
| 15:06.49 | Matrix110 | Iam kinda disappointed that the Voice Chat isnt in the ptr built yet |
| 15:06.51 | jme | Matrix110: ... we have kara on farm |
| 15:07.11 | Matrix110 | jme do you spam the forums? |
| 15:07.16 | jme | Matrix110: negative |
| 15:07.22 | Matrix110 | then it wasnt directed to you :P |
| 15:07.26 | jme | Matrix110: ok :) |
| 15:07.34 | jme | Matrix110: well not quite, we've cleared it 3 times i think |
| 15:07.35 | kenlyric | Matrix110: voice chat is going to be in this patch? |
| 15:07.39 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 15:07.46 | Matrix110 | confirmed by blue atleast |
| 15:07.50 | Matrix110 | maybe he lied Oo |
| 15:07.55 | kenlyric | oh, so there will eventually be something new in this patch. |
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| 15:08.07 | kenlyric | what cute name will they give it? |
| 15:08.09 | jme | Cryect: xteam ganking in arathi was fun last night |
| 15:08.12 | kenlyric | Voice of Azeroth! |
| 15:09.24 | Matrix110 | If the Quality of the VoiceChat is good we can atleast use it when our raid vent is full^^ |
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| 15:19.37 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r43720 10AtlasLoot/Reputation/rep.lua: |
| 15:19.37 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:19.38 | CIA-22 | - New recipes added (coming with Patch 2.2) |
| 15:19.49 | Fisker- | http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/popopopopopopopopopopopopo2.swf <-catchy tune |
| 15:19.59 | Fisker- | oh and nsfw |
| 15:20.05 | Fisker- | it's 4chan so should be obvious |
| 15:20.48 | pastamancer | I learned a long time ago to never look at anything with '4chan' in the url... ever |
| 15:20.51 | benmaca | any atlasloot dev? |
| 15:21.07 | Fisker- | good choice pastamancer |
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| 15:21.16 | Fisker- | it manage to consume me before i looked away |
| 15:21.32 | Fisker- | then you have lots of time to develop on grid though |
| 15:22.20 | pastamancer | haha, I wish I had free time |
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| 15:23.04 | Knaledge | So I know we talked about this yesterday but I'm still a bit lost with Ludwig... |
| 15:23.14 | Knaledge | I went to search for the Bloodfang pants |
| 15:23.28 | Knaledge | and it came up with nothing. |
| 15:23.44 | QuantumDelta | Antiarc are you around? |
| 15:24.07 | Knaledge | Is that as designed? I thought I recalled Tuller saying it would query the server or something along those lines |
| 15:24.20 | Knaledge | (if it didn't have the link for an item being searched for) |
| 15:24.22 | Fisker- | Knaledge no |
| 15:24.29 | Fisker- | It looks what you have in your local itemcache |
| 15:24.37 | hani- | if I install Threat-1.0 as its own addon, will violation use that version or the version it ships with? |
| 15:24.54 | Knaledge | Ok. Fair enough - I mean I do have AtlasLoot which is fine |
| 15:24.55 | Fisker- | so unless you've seen a Bloodfang (i.e. been in proximity to a person with it on) then you won't have it in your cache |
| 15:25.06 | Knaledge | now my only other question is.. |
| 15:25.08 | Knaledge | Tuesday |
| 15:25.14 | Knaledge | will I "lose" all these items? |
| 15:25.28 | Fisker- | I don't know when the itemcache is purged |
| 15:25.38 | Fisker- | but yes you will lose the items when they are purged from the itemcache |
| 15:25.47 | Knaledge | I have like 8300~ or so in the Ludwig frame presently. iirc it will be "reset" to 0 ? |
| 15:25.51 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 15:26.04 | Knaledge | Is there an in between addon? |
| 15:26.18 | Knaledge | One that operates efficiently like Ludwig but also kind of... stores items ? |
| 15:26.34 | Knaledge | I know Ludwig /= storing items but is there something thats LootLink meets Ludwig? |
| 15:26.34 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184339384395.jpg <-omg it's NAGGERS you idiot |
| 15:26.40 | benmaca | noone can help me with an atlasloot bug? |
| 15:26.51 | Knaledge | @ben: whats the issue? |
| 15:27.03 | Fisker- | Knaledge i guess lootlink? |
| 15:27.23 | Knaledge | nah I jsut got done using LootLink per recommendation of Tuller, Clad, ck, etc. |
| 15:27.31 | benmaca | doesnt load modules on frFR client |
| 15:27.48 | Knaledge | post it on the translations/bug board on atlasloot |
| 15:28.00 | QuantumDelta | this might seem like a stupid question, but do you actually have the modules installed? |
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| 15:28.05 | Knaledge | the french trans guy will fix it up - probably wasn't included in the latest updates |
| 15:29.00 | benmaca | yep, when i install the last version available on the site, it works, but as soon as i update all my addons (including atlasloot) with aceupdater, it bugs |
| 15:29.21 | Matrix110 | Knaledge you could check ItemSync |
| 15:29.32 | Matrix110 | BUt not sure with frFR trans. there |
| 15:29.33 | Knaledge | @ben: yeah thats because v4 is a test version only |
| 15:30.20 | Knaledge | @ben: I'm almost positive nothing was remedied for other locales yet in that version since it's test only. AceUpdater for dave is like sort of a repository |
| 15:30.35 | Knaledge | to you it's the official version to him it's more like a place to upload latest distro |
| 15:30.50 | Knaledge | both are fine but just know that the one posted on the main page is considered "official |
| 15:31.07 | Knaledge | I'll send him a PM and a post about it. I'm sure its just not set to recognize LoD yet |
| 15:31.23 | Knaledge | @Matrix: Whats the deal with ItemSync? |
| 15:31.33 | Knaledge | iirc, isn't ItemSync considered a bit "dead" ? |
| 15:31.33 | benmaca | ok, thanks for the infos |
| 15:31.35 | Matrix110 | Its "LootLink meets Ludwig?" |
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| 15:31.45 | Matrix110 | It stores Items |
| 15:31.53 | Matrix110 | but checks if you can link em or not |
| 15:32.01 | Knaledge | but only the ones that I dont have in my cache? |
| 15:32.05 | Matrix110 | (atleast last time ive used it) |
| 15:32.06 | Knaledge | stores them that is |
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| 15:32.19 | Matrix110 | Oh iam not sure it stored all before atleast |
| 15:32.21 | Matrix110 | Because well |
| 15:32.33 | Matrix110 | But you wont find a addon that does that Knaledge |
| 15:32.44 | Matrix110 | as after Server Down you miss most items from the cache |
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| 15:35.44 | Knaledge | how much UI mem does it use would you say/ |
| 15:35.57 | Knaledge | I just dumped LootLink because it took up about 8-10 MB |
| 15:40.36 | Knaledge | so ok in Ludwig... anyone here thats _here_ think they could help me edit something about it? |
| 15:41.09 | Knaledge | I just want to edit the positioning of the mouseover tooltip on items in the Ludwig list |
| 15:41.27 | Knaledge | currently, they open over the list rather than to the left/right based on where the Ludwig frame is |
| 15:45.40 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r43721 10oRA2/Core.lua: |
| 15:45.40 | CIA-22 | oRA2: Core draggable frame functionality: |
| 15:45.41 | CIA-22 | - Fix kaboom when window is toggled and handler has an :OnToggleFrame |
| 15:45.41 | CIA-22 | - Add callout to handler:OnSetScale |
| 15:46.26 | raider|poul | 17:31 <Matrix110> but checks if you can link em or not you cant check if you can link an item or not without discornecting in some cases. |
| 15:46.54 | raider|poul | - someplace |
| 15:46.57 | Matrix110 | Well |
| 15:47.20 | Matrix110 | Afaik it only uses the safe way to check if you can link it or not |
| 15:47.22 | raider|poul | you can have a item in local cache and then it belive you can link it, then if you try link it you will disc if its not in the server cache |
| 15:47.40 | Matrix110 | GetItemInfo() takes care of this ornot? |
| 15:47.47 | raider|poul | ye it do |
| 15:47.54 | raider|poul | it check the local cache |
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| 15:48.27 | Matrix110 | Hmm never had that happening though with ItemSync back in the days when i used it |
| 15:48.30 | raider|poul | there are no safe way to check if an item are in the server cache |
| 15:48.32 | Knaledge | have a single file that is LoD that is akin to LootLink that stores allll link |
| 15:48.44 | Knaledge | then have the primary addon itself check / pull from cache its own links |
| 15:48.53 | raider|poul | well its very rare you have a item in local cache which are not in the server cache |
| 15:48.57 | Knaledge | if ever a link is requested to be produced vias this addon and its not present in cache |
| 15:49.09 | Knaledge | the stored DB of seen links is loaded then it checks against that to pull its info |
| 15:49.13 | Knaledge | and then polls the server |
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| 15:49.44 | Knaledge | (polls server if attempted to link - otherwise just the tooltip info is displayed) |
| 15:51.04 | Knaledge | maybe even have a button the user can press sort of like Saeris LootLink "parse" button - it will check the current cache against the current stored and update accordingly |
| 15:51.32 | Knaledge | and not sure if it's possible but with all these LoD addons - is it possible to unload a module after loaded if some timeout is met? |
| 15:51.46 | Josh_Borke | Knaledge: you cannot unload modules (as far as i know) |
| 15:51.48 | Knaledge | or by some action by the user? (ex: an "unload" button, if you will) |
| 15:51.54 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 15:52.00 | Josh_Borke | you have to reload UI or log out |
| 15:52.21 | Knaledge | seems like that would be the next evolution of the UI by Blizzard |
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| 15:52.54 | trh | http://i0005.photobucket.com/albums/0005/icanhascheezburger/2007/7/5/20/128281656998281250PleaseICanH.jpg |
| 15:53.06 | Josh_Borke | i think it leads to a type of exploitation (though i'm not sure how) and how does it really help? |
| 15:53.07 | Knaledge | ooc - does my whacky proposition for a LootLink addon make sense? |
| 15:53.39 | Knaledge | In the case of cartographer or Lightheaded or AtlasLoot I could stop using them for a time and it would just unload those modules |
| 15:53.53 | Josh_Borke | what do you get out of that? |
| 15:54.02 | Knaledge | freed up UI mem |
| 15:54.08 | Knaledge | maybe some CPU time |
| 15:54.10 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 15:54.11 | Cryect | what does freed up UI mem get you? |
| 15:54.21 | Wobin_ | I just did my first SH as a holy healer =P |
| 15:54.35 | Knaledge | a warm happy feeling inside and the knowledge of efficiency |
| 15:54.44 | Cryect | unless you are on a really low ram system it means jack shit |
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| 15:54.46 | Josh_Borke | Knaledge: have you ever looked at the amount of memory that WoW uses in windows? you'll notice it is several hundred megabytes. then look at your ui memory usage |
| 15:54.46 | Knaledge | not to say it's terribly unefficient as implemented now |
| 15:55.08 | Josh_Borke | i highly doubt we'll ever be able to unload addons witohut reloading |
| 16:00.03 | Knaledge | wasn't there a way to do it a while back? I thought there was some sort of stack manager |
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| 16:00.03 | Cryect | you can nil all the functions of an addon |
| 16:00.03 | Knaledge | it could selectively unload addons |
| 16:00.03 | Cryect | and do a garbage collect |
| 16:00.03 | Cryect | but you can't reload them so... |
| 16:00.03 | ulic | anyone have a knowledge of function hooking. I'm trying to hook the OnAccept from a StaticPopup frame, and not having much success, keep in mind I'm not really a programmer :P |
| 16:00.04 | CIA-22 | 03adelea * r43722 10GridManaBars/ (GMBLocale-deDE.lua GridManaBars.toc): GridManaBars - Added deDE locale file |
| 16:00.04 | trh | Cryect: what if the addon was LoD, can you load a lod again? =) |
| 16:00.04 | Cryect | Uh not sure, don't think so? |
| 16:00.04 | Cryect | Never tried it :-p |
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| 16:00.04 | trh | me neither :) |
| 16:00.04 | trh | just a idea :) |
| 16:00.04 | Josh_Borke | no you cannot double load an addon |
| 16:00.04 | Wobin_ | awww but Daad! |
| 16:00.04 | Josh_Borke | ulic: you're doing something wrong if you're trying to hook the OnAccept |
| 16:00.04 | Josh_Borke | ~punish Wobin_ |
| 16:00.29 | purl | ACTION forces Wobin_ to install and use Windows |
| 16:00.29 | Wobin_ | ~flee |
| 16:00.32 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 16:00.32 | Josh_Borke | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=mysvn&path=%2Ftrunk%2FMySetup%2FHoverTips.lua |
| 16:00.38 | Josh_Borke | i'm so close to what i want |
| 16:01.32 | ulic | Josh_Borke: well basically I just need to do something when it's clicked, but before it closes, suggestions? |
| 16:01.48 | Josh_Borke | ulic: did you cerate the static popup window? |
| 16:02.06 | ulic | no, another addon is creating it |
| 16:02.32 | Josh_Borke | you can't hook the static popup window easily |
| 16:03.01 | ulic | I thought that might be the answer :) |
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| 16:06.07 | ulic | perhaps you could give me an example of how to hook something from an Ace addon, as opposed to a blizzard function? I might be able to find a way that way, but was having trouble doing that the other day. |
| 16:07.11 | Josh_Borke | http://lattice/packages/livna-config-display/0.0.12/1.el5.stl/noarch/livna-config-display-0.0.12-1.el5.stl.noarch.rpm <-- YES! |
| 16:07.26 | Josh_Borke | blasted |
| 16:07.31 | Josh_Borke | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=acesvn&path=%2Ftrunk%2FBunchOfBars%2FTooltip%2FTooltip.lua&rev=43719&sc=1 <-- YES! |
| 16:07.32 | deltron | intranet! |
| 16:07.45 | Josh_Borke | tabs + color |
| 16:08.06 | sylvanaar | cladhaire long time ago there was a change in acedb "char of server" -> "char - server" i have both forms on one of my characters, and its not the one that gets loaded |
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| 16:08.26 | Josh_Borke | ulic: i'll help after lunch, ta ta for now |
| 16:08.28 | sylvanaar | cladhaire in clique i mean |
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| 16:09.02 | ulic | Josh_Borke: thank you for your time. |
| 16:09.41 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43723 10SmartQueue/ (Locale-enUS.lua SmartQueue.toc): |
| 16:09.41 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 16:09.41 | CIA-22 | - cleaned some useless comments from the .toc |
| 16:09.41 | CIA-22 | - some tweaks to the localization (if someone wants to translate this, it should be more easy now). |
| 16:10.05 | Pkekyo | as horde...is it possible to use mailboxes in alliance cities? |
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| 16:11.26 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: I don't believe so |
| 16:11.38 | deltron | Pkekyo: nope |
| 16:11.50 | deltron | Pkekyo: my mailbox sitter wasn't able to do that |
| 16:12.33 | deltron | tauren of course :) |
| 16:12.51 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 16:12.56 | cncfanatics | where could I find the logs of this chat agai n? |
| 16:13.00 | cncfanatics | someone told me earlier :p |
| 16:13.07 | deltron | ~logs |
| 16:13.08 | purl | logs is probably apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 16:13.13 | raider|poul | warlock t5 4set bonus got improved from 3% to 10% next patch |
| 16:13.14 | deltron | nice |
| 16:14.26 | Pkekyo | damnit, that sucks :< |
| 16:15.32 | raider|poul | http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/6665/tier522qx6.jpg |
| 16:17.05 | cncfanatics | hat long thingy doesnt hav e today's log yet ? |
| 16:17.24 | cncfanatics | omg at my spelling |
| 16:17.27 | cncfanatics | just changed keyboards |
| 16:18.05 | cncfanatics | that log thingy does not have today's logs yet ? |
| 16:19.29 | sylvanaar | anyone have a sv cleaner? |
| 16:19.47 | nevcairiel | rm -rf /your/sv/dir/here |
| 16:19.48 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 16:19.52 | Wobin_ | * |
| 16:19.52 | abyssichate | http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/2725/wowscrnshot070707011352fp4.jpg - is the actionbar addon Bartender? |
| 16:19.52 | Wobin_ | Kill Command will not charge the hunter mana if their pet is on passive. |
| 16:19.59 | Wobin_ | BRK brings up a good point |
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| 16:20.08 | Wobin_ | The pet can be 'on passive' but still attack |
| 16:20.17 | nevcairiel | looks like cyCircled |
| 16:20.20 | Wobin_ | badly worded? |
| 16:20.21 | nevcairiel | not sure which actionbar |
| 16:20.34 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel for things that arent installed |
| 16:21.05 | abyssichate | ok, thanks |
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| 16:22.00 | abyssichate | About combat parsing: [teaser]We have some great changes coming down the pike for you guys in 2.4, but I can't say anything else about it yet. *grin* /teaser |
| 16:22.05 | abyssichate | old? |
| 16:22.31 | Srosh | source? |
| 16:23.03 | abyssichate | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/devtracker/1/en/details/25323/ |
| 16:23.31 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:23.39 | nevcairiel | 2.4 |
| 16:23.46 | nevcairiel | slouken is planning ahead :P |
| 16:23.58 | abyssichate | that might even be after the next expansion |
| 16:24.15 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 16:24.22 | nevcairiel | expansion would prolly bump to 3.0 |
| 16:24.31 | Tornhoof | 2.4 should be around end of the year |
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| 16:25.39 | kergoth | wait, +20agi? |
| 16:25.42 | Annai | may i ask what the difference is between the WoWAceUpdater2 linked here and the SourceForge WAU... i just tried to get WAU (SF) working, but am having problems and it's now displaying ads through IE, which is a little scary |
| 16:25.45 | kergoth | hmm |
| 16:26.15 | kergoth | deltron, fyi, evilmonkeys and myself are both coming back to suramar asap. not sure what guild we're heading to yet, but as soon as i've got some moneys.. |
| 16:26.17 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:26.20 | cncfanatics | sigh @ yearly expansions tbh |
| 16:26.42 | hani- | Annai: try my amazing updater! |
| 16:26.54 | hani- | Annai: http://aceupdater.googlecode.com/files/aceupdater.jnlp |
| 16:27.08 | jme | hmm |
| 16:27.15 | Wobin_ | >, |
| 16:27.16 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 16:27.17 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, I pastied a link here earlyer today |
| 16:27.22 | jme | you guys think rolling my friend's druid from 60-70 will be too much of a learning curve to be effective at 70? |
| 16:27.28 | Wobin_ | ck's posts always sound so condescending with that opener =P |
| 16:27.30 | cncfanatics | could someone scroll up and check that link that didnt close his window ? |
| 16:27.33 | |Kev| | jme: no |
| 16:27.39 | |Kev| | druids change completely post 60 anyway |
| 16:27.48 | Wobin_ | Sort of like one of those TV evangalists =P |
| 16:27.49 | |Kev| | or, rather, tbc changed druids anyway |
| 16:27.56 | |Kev| | so most people only really had 60-70 to learn the new class |
| 16:28.02 | jme | |Kev|: ahh |
| 16:28.26 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel |
| 16:28.29 | jme | |Kev|: well, i guess i could tank every instance on the way up to 70 until honored with the factions to get the hang of it |
| 16:28.33 | cncfanatics | how long u been online for ? :p |
| 16:28.42 | nevcairiel | what? |
| 16:28.48 | cncfanatics | how long u been online for ? :p |
| 16:28.55 | jme | |Kev|: i know nothing about druid gear though |
| 16:28.59 | nevcairiel | can anyone explain to me what he is asking ? :P |
| 16:29.10 | |Kev| | jme: plenty of help for that online :) |
| 16:29.16 | jme | |Kev|: yeah |
| 16:29.20 | cncfanatics | how long have you been online on this irc channel in hours ? |
| 16:29.30 | cncfanatics | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 16:29.51 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 16h 34m 23s) #wowace (2d 16h 34m 23s). Has said a total of 162 messages. Is idling for 52s, last said: 'can anyone explain to me what he is asking ? :P'. |
| 16:29.51 | nevcairiel | today? overall? |
| 16:29.51 | cncfanatics | just want to know since when ur online today :p |
| 16:29.51 | nevcairiel | i rebooted my irc box a day ago or so |
| 16:29.51 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 16:29.54 | cncfanatics | could u check ur logs from 2 days ago |
| 16:29.57 | cncfanatics | 2 hours* |
| 16:30.09 | cncfanatics | I pasted a pastey a link back then |
| 16:30.18 | cncfanatics | (cnc.pastey.net/******) |
| 16:30.20 | Azurewrath | mhm.. my mIRC says it's been ~12000 hours since Nov 2005.. don't know if i was here at that time ;) |
| 16:30.24 | cncfanatics | could you please get me that link ? |
| 16:30.29 | cncfanatics | pretty please :) |
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| 16:32.55 | cncfanatics | someone push ctrl+F, type cnc.pastey.net, and tell me what he finds -.- |
| 16:33.00 | cncfanatics | I rly need that link :( |
| 16:33.09 | nevcairiel | http://cnc.pastey.net/70743 |
| 16:33.27 | nevcairiel | stupid client was too slow looking through 40mb of channel logs :P |
| 16:33.37 | cncfanatics | tnx mate :) |
| 16:33.41 | cncfanatics | rly ty |
| 16:34.27 | cncfanatics | that was my earlyest one, got the later ones too ? |
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| 16:36.09 | nevcairiel | nop only one in the log |
| 16:36.17 | sbu | hmpf |
| 16:36.22 | sbu | WAU didnt install windowlib |
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| 16:36.39 | cncfanatics | when did I post that, nevcairiel ? |
| 16:36.45 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 16:36.48 | nevcairiel | it doesnt log timestamps |
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| 16:37.31 | cncfanatics | ok, thanks anyway :) i'll help myself with that |
| 16:37.37 | cncfanatics | still a few hours worth of work you saved me :) |
| 16:37.50 | nevcairiel | ah there |
| 16:37.51 | nevcairiel | (15:39:33) (cncfanatics) someone that knows the waterfall API except me please control this code :p http://cnc.pastey.net/70743 |
| 16:37.57 | nevcairiel | CET that is |
| 16:38.04 | nevcairiel | 3 hours ago |
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| 16:40.41 | cncfanatics | I should l2keeplogs myself, but meh |
| 16:40.43 | cncfanatics | windows ... |
| 16:41.19 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43724 10SmartQueue/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua SmartQueue.toc): |
| 16:41.19 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 16:41.19 | CIA-22 | - some more tweaks to the locale handling |
| 16:41.19 | CIA-22 | - new deDe local, thx to EnSabahNur |
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| 17:05.08 | phreakzter | Any1 using JwowUpdater? I somehow get all my addons put in WoW/Interface instead of WoW/Interface/Addons .. |
| 17:05.08 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r43725 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 17:05.08 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 17:05.08 | CIA-22 | - Updated locale frFR (akirra83) |
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| 17:09.28 | NeoTron | Woot. Last night we killed Leotheras on our 7th try overall |
| 17:09.59 | NeoTron | Lady Vashj is next |
| 17:10.22 | Xyphor | Who broke oRA2? |
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| 17:14.14 | Josh_Borke | ulic: poke |
| 17:15.18 | ulic | Josh_Borke: I've made some progess while you were at lunch |
| 17:15.28 | ulic | it's always good to start fresh on a new day |
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| 17:16.15 | ulic | I've got it hooking where I want, but still having a few issues, lemme poke around some more, and I'll ask for more help if I get stuck |
| 17:16.22 | yohimo | can someone explain me , why in WAU in front of every versionnumber a "?" is printed? |
| 17:16.25 | ulic | Josh_Borke: thank you again for your time. |
| 17:17.13 | sylvanaar | hover over the addon name |
| 17:17.19 | sylvanaar | yohimo ^^ |
| 17:17.55 | sylvanaar | yohimo that tooltip has the long form of the version number |
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| 17:18.24 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: wha? |
| 17:18.28 | Mikk | what broke with ora2? |
| 17:18.54 | Mikk | argh ok |
| 17:19.16 | Fisker- | [teaser]We have some great changes coming down the pike for you guys in 2.4, but I can't say anything else about it yet. *grin* [/teaser] :O |
| 17:19.33 | Fisker- | 2.4 is gonna be like pre-northrend patch |
| 17:19.34 | jme | my cat offtanked Kil'Rek last night |
| 17:19.35 | jme | mwahaha |
| 17:19.46 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r43726 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 17:19.46 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 17:19.46 | CIA-22 | - Updated locale frFR (akirra83) |
| 17:20.18 | jme | Fisker-: so northrend has been confirmed? |
| 17:20.41 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.03 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r43727 10oRA2/Core.lua: |
| 17:21.03 | CIA-22 | oRA2: |
| 17:21.03 | CIA-22 | - Fix: Would error on load if the resurrection frame had never been positioned (posx/posy was nil) |
| 17:21.07 | jme | i thought shade was intense :( |
| 17:21.10 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:21.11 | jme | first time i faced him last night |
| 17:21.17 | Fisker- | jme no |
| 17:21.23 | Funkeh` | Mikk: window libs is spouting me errors |
| 17:21.26 | Fisker- | but blizzard put in northrend data into the client |
| 17:21.29 | Fisker- | that's good enough for me |
| 17:21.31 | jme | Fisker-: yeah i read about that |
| 17:21.33 | Mikk | Xyphor: oRA2 fixed. 20 minutes until fix is up on files.wowace.com |
| 17:21.34 | jme | Fisker-: same here |
| 17:21.38 | Mikk | Funkeh`: hm? |
| 17:21.38 | Fisker- | unless they were purposely misleading us :P |
| 17:21.42 | jme | Fisker-: :X |
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| 17:21.46 | Josh_Borke | ulic: what are yout rying to do? |
| 17:21.48 | Fisker- | then i will say well played |
| 17:21.52 | Mikk | Funkeh`: gimme error |
| 17:21.59 | Josh_Borke | Error: Mikk is dumb |
| 17:22.01 | Josh_Borke | done |
| 17:22.02 | Funkeh` | Mikk: windowlib.lua:59 attempt to index global self a nil value |
| 17:22.14 | Mikk | callstack? |
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| 17:22.38 | Fisker- | i wonder what the brewfest will be though |
| 17:22.41 | Fisker- | oh |
| 17:22.45 | Fisker- | oktober festival probably |
| 17:22.53 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r43728 10WindowLib/Window-1.0/Window-1.0.lua: WindowLib: Sigh. Reffed self instead of lib. |
| 17:22.57 | ulic | Josh_Borke: get the set name out of ClosetGnome when you create/update a set |
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| 17:23.01 | Mikk | Funkeh`: nvm, forgot a commit. |
| 17:23.05 | Funkeh` | noob |
| 17:23.07 | Funkeh` | :) |
| 17:23.11 | Mikk | yes |
| 17:23.16 | Fisker- | :I |
| 17:23.16 | binder | what irc server is this again? |
| 17:23.30 | ben | freeeeenode |
| 17:23.30 | Mikk | freenode |
| 17:23.31 | binder | man I suck at BitchX |
| 17:23.32 | ulic | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.36 | Fisker- | sounds like the new brewfest music mentions killing ones nephew |
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| 17:24.14 | Awaa | WindowLib\Window-1.0\Window-1.0.lua:59 attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
| 17:24.20 | Mikk | Awaa: fixed |
| 17:25.04 | Mikk | fix downloadable in 16 minutes |
| 17:25.15 | Mikk | actually i'll go run the script now |
| 17:25.38 | Awaa | Mikk, Just saw above :p |
| 17:25.42 | sbu | Window-1.0-42233 (WindowLib):59: attempt to index field 'delayedSavePosition' (a nil value) |
| 17:25.49 | sbu | Mikk: that one too? :p |
| 17:25.56 | jme | off topic, but are most of you guys planning on sticking it out in wow? i've got a lot of friends planning on playing warhammer =/ |
| 17:26.17 | Mikk | sbu: that's the same one, except you have a misbehaving addon that sets "self" globally |
| 17:26.17 | trh | i think it depends on how warhammer will be :) |
| 17:26.28 | trh | i think no one can answer that unless he got into the beta program :) |
| 17:26.38 | jme | trh: true, i'm not in the beta yet.. |
| 17:26.51 | trh | jme: me neither, but i'd love to take a looksie |
| 17:26.56 | jme | i hope blizzard makes northrend less of a grind in the endgame than tbc was |
| 17:27.06 | jme | trh: yeah same here |
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| 17:27.23 | Mikk | oRA2 / WindowLib fixes are now up on files.wowace.com |
| 17:27.32 | jme | Mikk: that was a fast 16 minutes |
| 17:28.09 | ben | Guys I am all for advertisement in WAU to keep it alive but can you please filter out the animated flashing YOU WON 4REALLY ads |
| 17:28.11 | jme | Mikk: 14:25 <Mikk> actually i'll go run the script now <_- oh |
| 17:28.20 | Mikk | jme: i ran the generator script manually |
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| 17:28.37 | Fisker- | OH WUT |
| 17:28.39 | Fisker- | giev Mikk |
| 17:28.40 | trh | ben: i think it's impossible to filter specific ads out as kaelten uses a ad network |
| 17:28.45 | Gnarfoz | you need root for _that_? |
| 17:28.46 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 17:28.53 | ben | trh: Okay. Can you switch to a better ad network or something? |
| 17:28.59 | trh | ben: ask kaelten :P |
| 17:29.09 | Mikk | i think all ad networks have that shit tbfh |
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| 17:29.24 | trh | yea.. except for google textads probably, which don't pay enough ;) |
| 17:30.16 | NeoTron | aha the new JC gems are BoP... finally a reason to be a JC.. |
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| 17:32.33 | yohimo | when i run an update with WAU and restart wau 1.9.27 all addons will be updatet again it seems |
| 17:33.49 | trh | NeoTron: what's jc? |
| 17:33.52 | trh | ah |
| 17:33.53 | Funkeh` | yohimo: do a reinstall all addons |
| 17:33.54 | trh | nvm |
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| 17:35.37 | dodgizzla | Hey, will there be a "is talking via voice chat" indicator for Grid, when 2.2 hits? :> |
| 17:36.41 | Tornhoof | as far as i know, there are no api details yet known for the voice chat stuff |
| 17:37.21 | [dRaCo] | most ppl will disable that anyway |
| 17:37.24 | [dRaCo] | at least I hope so. |
| 17:37.32 | Fisker- | dodgizzla probably not QQ |
| 17:37.43 | trh | is the voice chat activated in 2.2? |
| 17:37.43 | Tornhoof | it's not even on the ptr |
| 17:37.48 | dodgizzla | Fisker-: Ah come on :> |
| 17:38.00 | Fisker- | not my addon :P |
| 17:38.08 | Fisker- | but pastamance is lazy(i.e. he claims to have no spare time) |
| 17:38.18 | dodgizzla | Just like me :D |
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| 17:38.30 | Josh_Borke | ulic: you want to know when they update a set correct? in closetgnome? |
| 17:38.37 | trh | changing the color of something in dependance of a event would be like 10 lines of code.. including a configuration option ;) |
| 17:38.44 | Josh_Borke | Tornhoof: apparently you can extract some code that tells you the events |
| 17:39.00 | trh | so i guess it could be implemented fast by any addon author ;) |
| 17:39.29 | Tornhoof | ah i see josh |
| 17:39.38 | ulic | Josh_Borke: yes, I have thing working mostly, except calling the orginal function throws an error on AddSet function |
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| 17:40.29 | ulic | I'm hooking AddSetFromDoll |
| 17:40.34 | sylvanaar | yohimo wait are you talking about running wau and wau or wau2 and wau |
| 17:40.39 | Josh_Borke | all the function does is AddSetFromDoll |
| 17:40.57 | Josh_Borke | to do what? |
| 17:41.19 | yohimo | im only talking about 1.9.27 i didn't try wau2 yet |
| 17:42.02 | sylvanaar | pastey your update log |
| 17:42.15 | ulic | I just need to yoink the "name" out when that is called, it's working, except that when I call original function I get an error "attempt to call method 'AddSet' (a nil value)" |
| 17:42.24 | Josh_Borke | pastey your code |
| 17:42.39 | Fisker- | i wonder what slouken has up his sleeve for combat logging in 2.4 :o |
| 17:43.44 | ulic | Josh_Borke: ace.pastey.net/70755 |
| 17:44.56 | ulic | obviously I'm not doing anything on my end yet, that should just act as if nothing was hooked, I think. |
| 17:44.56 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: wtf |
| 17:45.08 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: well, maybe not wtf |
| 17:45.23 | Josh_Borke | all the documentation on ace hook is gone gone |
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| 17:45.41 | pb_ee1 | Josh_Borke: I'll restore it |
| 17:45.44 | trh | ulic: why do you have the hook with _, name? |
| 17:45.45 | ulic | yea, I've managed to dig up some via google cache or what not. |
| 17:45.53 | Josh_Borke | http://ace.pastey.net/70755 |
| 17:45.56 | Josh_Borke | btw, for clickable |
| 17:46.06 | ulic | trh: the first value seems to return " |
| 17:46.11 | ulic | ClosetGnome" |
| 17:46.23 | trh | ulic: uh... that's the framename |
| 17:46.32 | pb_ee1 | Josh_Borke: do you want me to restore it now? |
| 17:46.47 | trh | ulic: as you call it via . you should just do: frame, name and call the hook with frame, name |
| 17:47.27 | ulic | but the hooked original function is just AddSetFromDoll(name) |
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| 17:47.33 | deltron | anyone having issues with Violation? |
| 17:47.43 | Saint-N | yeah i dont like being violated at all |
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| 17:47.51 | deltron | 0_o |
| 17:47.54 | trh | ulic: nope, it's AddSetFromDoll(self, name) if you call it via . :) |
| 17:48.02 | Josh_Borke | pb_ee1: sure |
| 17:48.10 | pb_ee1 | Let's go |
| 17:48.37 | ulic | trh: that's probably why the function in the function thinks it's nil, it doesn't know what self is. |
| 17:48.46 | trh | ulic: MyMod:Function(x) == MyMod.Function(MyMod, x) |
| 17:49.08 | ulic | I think that fixed my problem |
| 17:49.10 | trh | ulic: probably :) |
| 17:49.21 | ulic | I'm still learning, and have never claimed to be a programmer :) |
| 17:49.39 | trh | ulic: hehe.. no problem.. i was wondering more than 1-time when i didn't knew about the . : stuff ;) |
| 17:49.57 | ulic | the addon I'm making will work, but might be so ugly, that it will encourage someone to write a new version :P |
| 17:50.08 | Josh_Borke | just curious, what are you trying to do? |
| 17:50.10 | trh | ulic: what will it do? |
| 17:50.11 | Josh_Borke | addon wise |
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| 17:50.35 | pb_ee1 | Josh_Borke: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHooks |
| 17:50.42 | Josh_Borke | danke pb_ee1 |
| 17:50.47 | ulic | an ClosetGnome module that will build sets based on Item Stats, similar to what Outfitter does. |
| 17:50.52 | trh | AceHooks is outdated |
| 17:50.55 | trh | really outdated |
| 17:50.56 | pb_ee1 | Just check if all is ok ;) |
| 17:51.02 | ulic | I think that was my last major hurdle |
| 17:51.03 | Josh_Borke | wow, that's old ;-P |
| 17:51.21 | trh | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHook-2.1 |
| 17:51.27 | trh | that's the AceHook documentation :) |
| 17:51.33 | Josh_Borke | trh: which is useless |
| 17:51.34 | ulic | yea, archive.org doesn't have the new 2.1 stuff, I had to get from a google cache |
| 17:51.37 | trh | Josh_Borke: yep :( |
| 17:51.50 | ulic | I can send the google cache source if someone wants it |
| 17:51.57 | pb_ee1 | ulic: yup |
| 17:52.22 | ulic | oh wait, nm, archive.org does have it |
| 17:52.29 | ulic | check there |
| 17:53.06 | ulic | I've restored a few in my adventures, but didn't do that one |
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| 17:53.31 | pb_ee1 | ulic: couldn't have it |
| 17:53.46 | pb_ee1 | ulic: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:Pb_ee1/Article:Restoring |
| 17:53.59 | trh | the library documentation is now done via autodoc |
| 17:54.25 | NeoTron | because, we all know upgrading gear because it looks good is valid |
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| 17:54.45 | pb_ee1 | trh: it's not forced |
| 17:54.50 | pb_ee1 | you can do it by yourself |
| 17:54.54 | trh | pb_ee1: true, but it makes sense |
| 17:55.07 | pb_ee1 | sure ;) |
| 17:55.50 | ulic | ok, reload the AceHook-2.1 page, I think that was the most recent version |
| 17:55.52 | sbu | hm violation reset doesnt work anymore!? |
| 17:55.53 | Josh_Borke | trh: yea, autodoc which IS NOT documented |
| 17:56.07 | trh | Josh_Borke: err? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format ? |
| 17:56.17 | Josh_Borke | trh: i mean the code isn't documented for autodoc |
| 17:56.22 | trh | yea |
| 17:56.30 | Kaelten|Work | good news guys, if all goes well I'll be able to take the flashy graphical ads off the updater |
| 17:56.31 | Josh_Borke | wait |
| 17:56.38 | trh | Kaelten|Work: nice :) |
| 17:56.55 | Kaelten|Work | it'll be text ads mainly :) |
| 17:57.03 | [dRaCo] | /cheer Kaelten|Work |
| 17:57.09 | trh | even better :) |
| 17:57.14 | Matrix110 | why is that good news Kaelten|Work ??! |
| 17:57.16 | hani- | try my updater, guaranteed no ads ;) |
| 17:57.18 | Matrix110 | I like flashing ads! |
| 17:57.26 | Kaelten|Work | Matrix110: then for you a special version |
| 17:57.29 | Kaelten|Work | no updating just ads |
| 17:57.38 | [dRaCo] | cause flashy flash ads suck? |
| 17:57.47 | Josh_Borke | trh: one last time. overwriting all the contents of the wiki page with non-useful information is useless |
| 17:57.47 | Matrix110 | Dont they give more $$$? |
| 17:57.55 | Josh_Borke | people have to click first |
| 17:58.08 | Matrix110 | I always click just for the fun of it |
| 17:58.10 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 17:58.16 | Kaelten|Work | Matrix110: well these will have good rates |
| 17:58.56 | [dRaCo] | I'm getting ads for women shoes *cry* |
| 17:59.19 | NeoTron | [dRaCo]: means the targeting is working great? |
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| 17:59.30 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 17:59.31 | [dRaCo] | no. |
| 18:00.08 | Fisker- | btw ckknight there doesn't seem to be any guildbank related code in the game yet right? |
| 18:01.11 | trh | Fisker-: wonder what that addon would be called... maybe "Chipmunk"? ;) |
| 18:01.25 | NightHawkAtWork | in perl, 'next' is like continue, yeah? |
| 18:01.33 | yohimo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.51 | ckknight | Fisker-: not that I could see, just voice |
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| 18:06.25 | Fisker- | a shame :I |
| 18:06.38 | sylvanaar | oh god i forgot about the security lol |
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| 18:08.49 | sylvanaar | yohimo um wtf, where did you get that version? |
| 18:09.55 | sylvanaar | yohimo do you have .net 2.0 installed? |
| 18:11.17 | trh | someone got a clue about wiki templates in the wowace.com wiki? =) |
| 18:11.24 | sylvanaar | yohimo what is in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework |
| 18:11.55 | trh | because the Curse link on the addon pages doesn't work |
| 18:13.20 | dodgizzla | Is there a way to see how many times an item can be stacked? E.g. Potions to 5, Elixirs to 20? I wonder how many of those Ogri'La Mana Potions I can buy and still only take one spot in my bank :D |
| 18:13.21 | Gnarfoz | ~virtues |
| 18:13.35 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 18:13.54 | trh | dodgizzla: ogri'la mana potions stack only up to 5 |
| 18:14.00 | dodgizzla | I see |
| 18:14.10 | dodgizzla | Then what do I do with my 500+ Apexis Shards :D |
| 18:14.16 | trh | dodgizzla: buy them and sell them :) |
| 18:14.21 | trh | dodgizzla: some gold extra :) |
| 18:14.44 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r43729 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (7 files): |
| 18:14.44 | CIA-22 | FuBar_VolumeFu: |
| 18:14.44 | CIA-22 | - Added a toggle for sound while WoW is in the background. |
| 18:14.54 | dodgizzla | More gold? I'm sitting on 3300 gold with nothing to spend it on :D |
| 18:15.08 | sylvanaar | yohimo for whatever reason you cant generate the xml serializer, im not sure why. you can try "ngen install wowaceupdater.exe" but im not sure that will work either |
| 18:15.15 | trh | dodgizzla: buy some darkmoon cardsets :) |
| 18:15.31 | dodgizzla | trh: Already got Crusade for <100g :D |
| 18:15.42 | trh | dodgizzla: that's cheap as hell ;) |
| 18:15.50 | Fin | who's the main admin of svn.wowace.com? |
| 18:16.06 | Fin | thanks trh |
| 18:16.31 | jme | dodgizzla: send it to me? |
| 18:16.51 | jme | dodgizzla: i'm sitting on 130g and no epic flying mount and i've been 70 for 16 days played |
| 18:17.08 | jme | i must suck at farming or something |
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| 18:17.22 | dodgizzla | trh: I got Ace, Two, Three, Four all for 5-6 gold :D Then I rollhaxxxed and won a Fury or Storm card, sold it for 170 gold, bought two Blessing cards with that. Then I got someone who sold me another card for 50g and the last card dropped in our Karazhan raid.. :D |
| 18:17.38 | trh | dodgizzla: lucky :P |
| 18:17.44 | trh | dodgizzla: i payed like 1000g for it =) |
| 18:18.00 | dodgizzla | jme: I'm a Shadowpriest and my raid sucks so much I don't need to pot that much.. So basically I just have money coming in.. |
| 18:18.14 | jme | dodgizzla: heh |
| 18:18.23 | dodgizzla | I also only run around for less than an hour every day for dailies and earn 70g :D |
| 18:18.25 | jme | dodgizzla: i'm a hunter, farming should be second nature, i'm just lazy |
| 18:18.33 | Kaelten|Work | what'd I do? |
| 18:18.49 | dodgizzla | Well I could ditch skinning and level tailoring.. but then I'd have nearly no upgrades for a long time, so naah |
| 18:19.02 | NeoTron | what I wonder is if the darkmoon card is better than the eye of magtherido |
| 18:19.17 | Dustwhisper | in agUF what is the custom Text for percent _ |
| 18:19.30 | Dustwhisper | so you can have currmana / maxmana then % left |
| 18:19.30 | dodgizzla | NeoTron: I got them both :D |
| 18:19.47 | syeren | Hmm, someone wants my Grid set up, by uploading the .lua file out of my WTF folder, would that do it? |
| 18:19.55 | syeren | If it is under the default setting that is. |
| 18:19.56 | Gnarfoz | ~lazyness |
| 18:20.14 | Gnarfoz | -.- |
| 18:20.18 | dodgizzla | NeoTron: I just got my card this monday, but so far I think in fights where you can DPS without getting thrown around Crusade is superior to the Icon. But AFAIK it's never better than Maggis Eye |
| 18:20.24 | dodgizzla | Or so they say on shadowpriest.com D |
| 18:20.28 | trh | syeren: only if he changes the .lua file afterwards |
| 18:20.36 | jme | i am so going to roll a shadow priest next |
| 18:20.44 | trh | syeren: (at least if you got character profiles :) |
| 18:20.49 | jme | undead, so i get WotF |
| 18:20.59 | trh | syeren: if you use the default profile he can probably use it |
| 18:21.10 | Dustwhisper | Anyone know how to fix a grid bug where the text disappears for raidmembers, the classcolours aswell, aaand all frames show buffs you specify without them having it |
| 18:21.26 | NeoTron | dodgizzla: problem is with maxed spell hit... I so very rarely get resists |
| 18:21.56 | Dustwhisper | in agUF what is the custom Text for percent? |
| 18:22.08 | NeoTron | whoha I had 4.5% missrate on leo |
| 18:22.16 | NeoTron | I must have been out of range from my shaman a lot in that fight |
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| 18:22.25 | Xerophyte | Hrm? Magtheridon's Eye is rather crap if you're capped on hit. Equivalent to about 65 +damage if you spam 1.5s casts or instants, less with longer spells |
| 18:23.01 | Dustwhisper | it's not crap |
| 18:23.03 | Dustwhisper | 54 dmg is awesome |
| 18:23.11 | Dustwhisper | but darkmoon card crusade is better |
| 18:23.18 | Xerophyte | Okay, it's worse than Crusade or Icon, then |
| 18:23.21 | NeoTron | there's no better trinket than that unless you have DM:Crusade up most of the time |
| 18:24.19 | ckknight | Hell, I have an interview question: "If you were to choose one other author in the community who has influenced your work, who would it be and how did they influence you?" |
| 18:24.23 | ckknight | I have no goddamn idea. |
| 18:24.30 | ckknight | who has influenced me? |
| 18:24.59 | syeren | ckknight, you should have seen what I just wrote about you! |
| 18:25.10 | ckknight | ? |
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| 18:25.29 | syeren | The unit frames are Pitbull by the omniscient ckknight, you can find them on wowace.com, they do take a long while to configure, but you get whatever you could possibly imagine out of them as part of your reward. |
| 18:25.41 | ckknight | yea, that's pretty much it. |
| 18:26.21 | syeren | Where can I see the changelog for Pitbull? I noticed my Pitbull has been updating like twice this week. |
| 18:26.28 | syeren | And no link on the wiki to check if you fixed stuff. |
| 18:26.39 | syeren | Although I think you fixed Auras above frames, which is much appreciated :p |
| 18:27.13 | kebinusan | syeren: svn log http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull :-) |
| 18:27.30 | kebinusan | assuming you have an svn client installed I spose |
| 18:27.43 | syeren | Nope :p |
| 18:27.43 | hani- | or changelog file in the addon folder |
| 18:27.59 | Saint-N | hey its ck on the web today, hey its ck on the web today hey hey, ck on the web todaaaaay |
| 18:28.11 | Saint-N | ^^ sung to r.o.c.k in the usa |
| 18:28.27 | Dustwhisper | (NeoTron) there's no better trinket than that unless you have DM:Crusade up most of the time |
| 18:28.32 | Dustwhisper | icon of the silver crescent is better |
| 18:28.37 | trh | i wonder who would interview ckknight ;) |
| 18:29.12 | ckknight | omgphatloots.org |
| 18:29.36 | ckknight | I've been interviewed before |
| 18:29.48 | Saint-N | at the police station |
| 18:29.50 | ckknight | I even did one on internet radio |
| 18:29.50 | Tornhoof | by the local police? |
| 18:29.53 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 18:29.55 | Saint-N | hah torn |
| 18:30.15 | NeoTron | Dustwhisper: should have qualified it with "except IotSC" since every caster has that |
| 18:30.23 | NeoTron | my other trinket is the crit/dmg sha'tar rep one |
| 18:31.44 | syeren | ckknight, that's the guy who's *all about minimalism* yet condones the use of action buttons being visible on the screen ;p |
| 18:31.47 | syeren | Somewhat laughable. |
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| 18:36.44 | NeoTron | so wonder what the new Wrath of the Astromancer does |
| 18:36.52 | dodgizzla | Can somebody add an option to hide the minimap button if there's no FuBar installed for Violation, Sanity and PerformanceFu? :D |
| 18:37.19 | NeoTron | dodgizzla: no.. fubar? what does that even mean! |
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| 18:37.47 | dodgizzla | NeoTron: I would use FuBar, but I just can't find a place for it :\ |
| 18:38.07 | trh | dodgizzla: auto-hide =) |
| 18:38.08 | dodgizzla | When I attach it to top I always hover it when I look for a buff or want to cancel a buff |
| 18:38.33 | trh | dodgizzla: make it alot smaller :) |
| 18:38.43 | dodgizzla | When I attach it to bottom I also accidentally show it when I panic-like try to bandage myself |
| 18:38.59 | dodgizzla | An option to delay it when mouseovered would solve those problems :> |
| 18:41.07 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r43730 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Libs/): |
| 18:41.08 | CIA-22 | FlexBar2: |
| 18:41.08 | CIA-22 | - Filled toc |
| 18:41.08 | CIA-22 | - Started working on Core.lua |
| 18:41.08 | CIA-22 | - Added Waterfall-1.0 to externals |
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| 18:43.39 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r43731 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua: |
| 18:43.39 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:43.39 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Ore-2.2: zhCN updated |
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| 18:48.31 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 18:48.33 | Gnarfoz | nice paladin buff |
| 18:49.12 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r43732 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: - Fixed typos |
| 18:49.17 | cncfanatics | buff ? :o |
| 18:49.19 | cncfanatics | where ? |
| 18:50.24 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: paladin blessings increased to 10minutes, greater blessings: 30mins |
| 18:50.31 | Gnarfoz | (for 2.2, that is) |
| 18:51.00 | Gnarfoz | also for damage/tank paladins (alliance only), seal of vengeance change is nice |
| 18:52.09 | Gnarfoz | lol imba rogue buffs, again |
| 18:52.30 | Gnarfoz | blind cd down to 1 minute, duration nerfed to 8secs (whatever), no more blinding powder necessary |
| 18:53.01 | Cheads | I wonder why they keep buffing rogues |
| 18:53.13 | m4rku5 | yep buffing rogues sucks |
| 18:53.15 | Cheads | though very minor |
| 18:53.18 | Chompers | no more sword procs from sword procs :< |
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| 18:53.44 | Cheads | oh well.. mostly 2.2 is just fixes =) |
| 18:54.02 | Gnarfoz | Chompers: do the math on the chances, that's a minor loss |
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| 18:54.33 | Gnarfoz | I like how Slouken replied to ckk's question with some vague "wait for 2.4" stuff ;D |
| 18:54.39 | jme | Cheads: and nerfs |
| 18:54.59 | Cheads | I didn't see any big nerfs that I can remember |
| 18:55.15 | jme | Cheads: fear and traps getting nerfed to 10secs? |
| 18:55.23 | Cheads | only in pvp |
| 18:55.27 | jme | yeah |
| 18:55.37 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: link |
| 18:55.41 | Cheads | and fear and traps never last 10secs in pvp.. unless you play against someone that's afk |
| 18:55.58 | jme | true |
| 18:56.05 | jme | or that doesn't have their trinket |
| 18:56.07 | Cheads | so I'll call that minor =) |
| 18:56.07 | Gnarfoz | it's an ok nerf imho, CC was still too strong |
| 18:56.21 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/174616076.htm |
| 18:56.26 | Cheads | was it 12 or 15 secs before? (fear that is) |
| 18:56.35 | jme | i don't remember :/ |
| 18:56.38 | Gnarfoz | 12 like poly, IIRC |
| 18:57.41 | Gnarfoz | oh hell yeah |
| 18:57.47 | Cheads | so.. 2secs less.. that never lasted 12secs.. remember diminishing return... 12secs .. 6 secs.. 3 secs.. immune... hardly every lasted 10 secs to begin with =) |
| 18:57.48 | Chompers | Gnarfoz: i thought it would be a big loss for arms warriors |
| 18:57.50 | Gnarfoz | they've added the AQ40 drop enchants to rep vendors :D |
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| 18:58.06 | Chompers | we don't hit very often, so the most possible hits it procs off, the better |
| 18:58.13 | Cheads | 12...6.. 3... is not 10... 5.. 2.5? |
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| 18:58.56 | Cheads | I think that procs off procs are considered a bug |
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| 18:59.01 | Gnarfoz | I just hope 2.2 will take a while to go live |
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| 18:59.07 | Pkekyo | is there any addon like IgnoreMore, only for friendslist? |
| 18:59.36 | Pkekyo | if not: anyone wanna make me one? :> |
| 18:59.40 | Gnarfoz | because I don't want to be the last one to pick up and get my last few skill points from these (not really new) recipes |
| 18:59.46 | Gnarfoz | after I return from scotland :D |
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| 19:02.44 | nevcairiel | Saroz: i dun get it, what was that screenshot for you linked earlier ? :P |
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| 19:04.16 | stig | hi |
| 19:04.18 | stig | nick snirks |
| 19:05.19 | Gagorian | Leaving for a few days *waves* |
| 19:05.27 | snirks-2 | bye Gagorian |
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| 19:05.39 | trh | Gnarfoz: 2.4 will be in like 4 months or something ;) |
| 19:05.44 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 19:05.50 | trh | Gnarfoz: alot of time ;) |
| 19:06.03 | Gnarfoz | but if you re-read what I wrote |
| 19:06.05 | Gnarfoz | ;-) |
| 19:06.24 | NeoTron | I asked my blizzard contact to forward a post on adding a new caster flask or changing supreme power to new world mats |
| 19:06.37 | NeoTron | because it's stupid to have a flask that costs 2-3 times as much :( |
| 19:08.52 | ggilbert | If anything, changing the black lotus requirement would make it a lot nicer. |
| 19:10.00 | vithos | i bet that does suck. |
| 19:10.15 | Cheads | you can get the black lotus when 'herbing' those mobs in zangarmarsh |
| 19:10.43 | NeoTron | black lotus still costs 15-20g |
| 19:10.51 | NeoTron | it's incredibly rare to get it from herbing mob |
| 19:11.00 | NeoTron | we've gotten a single one from a month in SSC for example |
| 19:11.01 | Cheads | uhmm terokkar forrest even =) |
| 19:11.24 | NeoTron | so yeah, costs 2x as much for no reason at all |
| 19:11.46 | NeoTron | they lowered the mats to 1/3rd.. and price dropped 10-20% at most |
| 19:12.02 | Cheads | they are really not that rare.. drop from those elementals near Dead Mire |
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| 19:12.08 | Cheads | 'drop' .. when you herb them |
| 19:12.33 | NeoTron | it's like 1% herb chance or so |
| 19:12.51 | NeoTron | and I really don't care how rare they are - they cost a lot more |
| 19:12.55 | NeoTron | that's a fact |
| 19:13.00 | Gnarfoz | hoo-fucking-ray: "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish. " |
| 19:13.10 | Cheads | 1%.. when I tried I got 3 in an hour |
| 19:13.20 | Cheads | seems like many have the same results |
| 19:13.27 | Cheads | but yes.. they are far too expensive |
| 19:13.37 | NeoTron | so it's 2.6% chance according to wowhead |
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| 19:13.49 | NeoTron | oh nm that's from an elite dude |
| 19:14.10 | NeoTron | 0.4% chance from non-elites in blades' edge |
| 19:14.54 | NeoTron | besides.. I'm not a herbalist |
| 19:15.08 | Fin | not yet, my friend, not yet |
| 19:15.14 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 19:15.40 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 24m 28s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
| 19:15.40 | Fin | you shall see the light soon |
| 19:15.40 | sbu | ./cry |
| 19:15.40 | sbu | wiping on lurker.... |
| 19:15.40 | Cheads | well I dont think wowhead includes those that are gathering from herbalism on dead mobs.. since those elementals near dead mire in zangar |
| 19:15.40 | Gnarfoz | are there +10hit gems? |
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| 19:15.40 | [dRaCo] | not afaik |
| 19:15.41 | Cheads | *are not even listed |
| 19:16.12 | break19 | blind duration down to 8s? forcing us to use a blind/fa macro ftl |
| 19:16.45 | Diao | and if blind fails your bandage is wasted :P |
| 19:16.51 | break19 | exactly |
| 19:16.58 | Killmore | break19: there is no change finaly with blind |
| 19:17.15 | Killmore | break19: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174636576&pageNo=1&sid=1#2 |
| 19:17.31 | Killmore | break19: the reverse the change about blind 1min cooldown and no reagent |
| 19:17.40 | Killmore | pwnt :P |
| 19:17.46 | Fin | me eyes! ME EYES! |
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| 19:18.45 | break19 | phew |
| 19:19.09 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 19:19.12 | Gnarfoz | already reverted? |
| 19:19.13 | Gnarfoz | :< |
| 19:19.20 | Cheads | =) |
| 19:19.23 | Killmore | yep, on the PTR |
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| 19:19.36 | break19 | its fine the way it is... I never buy/make blinding powder.. and I have nearly 90 on my toon.. pickpocket ftw |
| 19:20.01 | break19 | Gnarfoz: accordin to the post, it wasnt ever actually supposed to make it out of internal testing, and ONTO the ptr |
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| 19:20.37 | Cheads | according to the thread.. it was never on the PTR.. just the note wasn't removed =) |
| 19:20.45 | break19 | Cheads: ah, yea, thats right |
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| 19:23.47 | Antiar1 | That's a hell of a thing to do :/ |
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| 19:25.03 | Fin | oh hey, unintentional wit! +5 points to me |
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| 19:26.06 | jme | Fin: liar! |
| 19:26.09 | sylvanaar | sylvanaar thinks that testing his mirc script is just as irritating as testing Prat |
| 19:26.36 | jme | sylvanaar likes talking about himself in the third person? |
| 19:26.39 | sylvanaar | whats funny is that i typed that |
| 19:26.50 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 19:27.08 | sylvanaar | and his script doesnt work |
| 19:27.12 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r43733 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed typo |
| 19:27.33 | Fin | jme: srly |
| 19:27.37 | Diao | i don't get why not being able to bandage to full is a problem for rogues anyway o_O |
| 19:28.07 | Fin | sylvanaar: wait - you *test* Prat? |
| 19:28.20 | jme | lies |
| 19:28.29 | snorks | test |
| 19:28.31 | Fin | I thought users' did that |
| 19:28.33 | jme | fail |
| 19:28.35 | Fin | -' |
| 19:28.42 | snorks | oh hi, i tested |
| 19:28.49 | jme | and failed |
| 19:28.54 | sylvanaar | you should see it before it gets tested |
| 19:29.14 | sylvanaar | oh there it goes, wtf |
| 19:30.18 | sylvanaar | lolwut |
| 19:30.18 | jme | sorry, i'm just trolling |
| 19:30.28 | jme | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.04 | cncfanatics | any actionbar addons where I can control buttons independantly ? |
| 19:31.53 | Bam__ | nope |
| 19:31.58 | Fin | Infinibar |
| 19:32.23 | Bam__ | no you still control it mostly barwise IMO |
| 19:32.25 | cncfanatics | Infinibar is no longer developped |
| 19:32.37 | Fin | you can control it how you like |
| 19:32.41 | cncfanatics | sigh, I'll really have to get into continueing to write FB then |
| 19:33.00 | Fin | purl, FB? |
| 19:33.01 | purl | Binary file viewer, editor, and manipulator.. URL: http://home.mho.net/jswaby/fb.html |
| 19:33.04 | Bam__ | but I am working on one actually :) |
| 19:33.13 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2 ;) |
| 19:33.13 | charon | ckknight: what is the recommended way to figure out what frame called the dewdrop menu that called a color picker window? remember the last clicked frame myself? |
| 19:33.28 | Fin | purk, FB is also FlexBar |
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| 19:34.55 | cncfanatics | Fin, think purl ignores you :p |
| 19:35.07 | break19 | might help if he spelled purl right :p |
| 19:35.20 | jme | cncfanatics: only when he misspells purl |
| 19:35.25 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 19:35.28 | break19 | if you called ME purk, I'd be irritated too :p |
| 19:35.31 | cncfanatics | purl, FB is also FlexBar |
| 19:35.31 | purl | cncfanatics: okay |
| 19:36.58 | Fin | bah, purk, purl, they're both words |
| 19:37.02 | Fin | or names |
| 19:37.20 | Fin | or series of letters at least, I mean shit stop giving me a hard time |
| 19:37.47 | Fin | it's not my fault, it's this damn genetic mutative disease virus |
| 19:37.59 | NightHawkAtWork | free pizza at work is teh awesome. |
| 19:38.09 | Josh_Borke | ~fb |
| 19:38.10 | purl | Binary file viewer, editor, and manipulator.. URL: http://home.mho.net/jswaby/fb.html. FlexBar |
| 19:38.45 | Fin | that's some addon |
| 19:38.51 | jme | it's 2:38 and i haven't had lunch yet :X |
| 19:38.52 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 19:38.55 | cncfanatics | purl, forget FB |
| 19:38.55 | purl | cncfanatics: i forgot fb |
| 19:39.20 | Fin | purl, FB is a binary file viewer, editor, and manipulator (http://home.mho.net/jswaby/fb.html) |
| 19:39.20 | purl | okay, Fin |
| 19:39.25 | Fin | purl, FB is also FlexBar |
| 19:39.26 | purl | okay, Fin |
| 19:39.28 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 19:39.33 | cncfanatics | I just removed it for a reason |
| 19:39.34 | cncfanatics | lemme type |
| 19:39.42 | cncfanatics | purl, forget FB |
| 19:39.42 | purl | cncfanatics: i forgot fb |
| 19:39.46 | nevcairiel | its not a ace only bot |
| 19:39.49 | Fin | it would be difficult to stop you |
| 19:39.52 | nevcairiel | its used for a lot of people :P |
| 19:39.56 | cncfanatics | I know |
| 19:39.57 | jme | purl: ignore cncfanatics and Fin for spamming |
| 19:39.58 | purl | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, cncfanatics and Fin for spamming!" |
| 19:39.58 | cncfanatics | i'm typing both |
| 19:39.58 | Fin | purl, stats |
| 19:39.59 | purl | Since Sun Jul 8 05:21:13 2007, there have been 86 modifications, 866 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 580 commands. I have been awake for 5d 14h 18m 45s this session, and currently reference 113207 factoids. I'm using about 22860 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 11864.51/1105.15 child 0/0 |
| 19:40.01 | cncfanatics | but correctly |
| 19:40.10 | Fin | good girl |
| 19:40.28 | cncfanatics | purl, FB is purl, FB is a binary file viewer, editor, and manipulator (http://home.mho.net/jswaby/fb.html). FlexBar2: Ace2 addon for button manipulation |
| 19:40.29 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 19:40.40 | cncfanatics | sigh at that, did it wrong |
| 19:40.42 | jme | uhh |
| 19:40.45 | jme | just stop :) |
| 19:40.51 | Fin | cncfanatics: you can set factoids via /msg, btw |
| 19:40.52 | cncfanatics | someone do it right -.- |
| 19:40.58 | cncfanatics | Fin, good idea |
| 19:41.17 | NightHawkAtWork | purl > cncfanatics |
| 19:41.18 | purl | [cncfanatics] the flexbar2 author |
| 19:41.24 | NightHawkAtWork | bah! |
| 19:41.46 | cncfanatics | didnt know u cld set factoids thru /msg |
| 19:41.52 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 19:42.16 | Fin | I exist solely to bring wisdom into this world |
| 19:42.20 | NightHawkAtWork | 'you','could' |
| 19:42.24 | NightHawkAtWork | 'through' |
| 19:42.36 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: yes! yes! well done! |
| 19:42.42 | Fin | now try "banana" |
| 19:43.02 | Fin | so sweet, when they start to say whole sentences |
| 19:43.26 | cncfanatics | I'm rebuilding my interface, whats the most efficient item database addon ? |
| 19:43.50 | nevcairiel | most efficient? |
| 19:43.52 | nevcairiel | ludwig |
| 19:44.05 | Fin | most comprehensive? |
| 19:44.09 | cncfanatics | I want a lightweight interface, bored of lag |
| 19:44.09 | Xuerian | ~fb |
| 19:44.10 | purl | FB is a binary file viewer, editor, and manipulator (http://home.mho.net/jswaby/fb.html). |
| 19:44.11 | Xuerian | ~fb2 |
| 19:44.12 | purl | FB2 is FlexBar2: Ace2 addon for button manipulation |
| 19:44.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Depending on what you want out of it, ItemSync or Ludwig are two good choices |
| 19:44.21 | cncfanatics | ty Xuerian :) |
| 19:44.38 | cncfanatics | NightHawkAtWork, differences between both ? |
| 19:44.56 | NightHawkAtWork | Ludwig will only search your item cache. ItemSync is a more proper item database, a la lootlink |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43734 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: fix mind control |
| 19:45.13 | Fin | best interface to an item db? |
| 19:45.13 | NightHawkAtWork | Ludwig is very efficiant, because it doesn't rely on storing data, but you're limited to what's in your cache |
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| 19:45.58 | cncfanatics | takes your local cache I supose ? |
| 19:46.39 | NightHawkAtWork | yes |
| 19:47.25 | Saint-N | dont believe him he's a liarhead! |
| 19:47.28 | Fin | most features related to item information in all areas of the game? |
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| 19:49.07 | Fin | beer oh my god seriously, this stuff - rules - |
| 19:49.14 | Fin | you guys should seriously try it |
| 19:49.19 | Fin | I'm not kiddin |
| 19:49.29 | Fin | fantastico |
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| 19:51.09 | syeren | !char eu Dentarg Ausmara |
| 19:51.13 | ThraeBot | syeren: Ausmara, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (28/33/0). 11061 HP; 8910 Mana; 172 mana regen; 62 mp5; 1.19% spell hit; 69 +spell dmg; 1231 +heal; 4.82% dodge; 449 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo72j5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/28tl5p ]] |
| 19:52.24 | Cheads | nice bot =) |
| 19:52.25 | Fin | ooh that's nift on a stick |
| 19:53.23 | Fin | !char bottomburper Fanny'Grr |
| 19:53.23 | cncfanatics | lol WAU2 has no option to install selected ? |
| 19:53.40 | hani- | just use my updater dammit! |
| 19:53.50 | Funkeh` | erm |
| 19:53.52 | Josh_Borke | why not contribute to wau2? |
| 19:54.04 | cncfanatics | probably because i dont know java |
| 19:54.10 | Josh_Borke | not you, hani |
| 19:54.11 | Funkeh` | Thrae: is it a good to idea to make a new tinyurl every time it does that? seems a bit wastefull |
| 19:54.14 | hani- | and eclipse RCP sucks ass |
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| 19:55.14 | cncfanatics | on a side note , for WAU2, it has nice features |
| 19:55.24 | cncfanatics | but the checkboxes are kinda useless if u cant install/remove selected |
| 19:55.29 | cncfanatics | (or did I miss a keybinding to do that somewhere ?) |
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| 19:56.07 | Josh_Borke | user error imo |
| 19:57.02 | Pheredhel | whyever wau2 is written in java ... |
| 19:58.02 | Morgh | To work for all OS'? |
| 19:58.18 | Gnarfoz | because the language was known by more authors who volunteered than any other one |
| 19:58.24 | Gnarfoz | 'd be my guess |
| 19:58.26 | Morgh | Or that |
| 19:58.34 | Morgh | Either's a strong argument ;D |
| 19:58.43 | snorks | Worf is a strong klingon |
| 19:59.32 | cncfanatics | ok, I just finished but i'm hesitating a bit, I want the most efficient ones |
| 19:59.48 | cncfanatics | what good, unit frame addon is there & combat text addon ? |
| 20:00.11 | snorks | pitbull = unitframe |
| 20:00.22 | Josh_Borke | ag_uf = unitframes |
| 20:00.31 | cncfanatics | I heard today pitbull was quite slow, dunno if its true though, anyone mind to confirm ? |
| 20:00.35 | Morgh | PitBull's turned out pretty sweet as a unitframe, and MSBT's pretty nice in regards to customizability |
| 20:00.41 | snorks | i'd say its opposite |
| 20:00.43 | Josh_Borke | i recommend msbt |
| 20:00.46 | binder | any clue why some buttons disappear in bartender unless I open my spellbook? |
| 20:00.53 | snorks | yes |
| 20:00.57 | snorks | you have show hidden buttons |
| 20:01.01 | snorks | rofl |
| 20:01.04 | snorks | i mean you have hide empty buttons |
| 20:01.12 | cncfanatics | actualy |
| 20:01.12 | Josh_Borke | pitbull is not going to be as fast as possible because EVERYTHING is a module, including health bars etc |
| 20:01.14 | snorks | which show when you have something on cursor that fits in those buttons |
| 20:01.18 | binder | no theyre not empty |
| 20:01.25 | cncfanatics | I had bartender hide buttons that had spells on them |
| 20:01.28 | binder | they're skills that are hotkeyed |
| 20:01.37 | snorks | ok i have no idea then |
| 20:01.51 | snorks | Josh_Borke: i guess it depends how many modules you use? |
| 20:02.21 | snorks | and as long as they're in ram, why should they be slower to fetch info from than any other addon? |
| 20:02.27 | charon | is there a way to reload just a single addon? |
| 20:02.53 | charon | (i'm in a terribly boring wsg where the horde sends a single warlock every few minutes, so a full reload is still not an option) |
| 20:02.59 | deltron | http://www.wired.com/culture/art/multimedia/2007/07/etch_gallery?slide=14&slideView=4 |
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| 20:05.21 | cncfanatics | pulled an internet cable off, sigh |
| 20:05.37 | cncfanatics | parrot or sct for combat text ? what one text the less memory & cpu ? |
| 20:06.40 | syeren | Parrot would, but it isn't even in Beta yet I believe. |
| 20:07.06 | cncfanatics | I'll stick to sct a bit then with most options disabled |
| 20:07.15 | jme | i actually just use the built in combat text, all i enable is the special attack notifications |
| 20:07.55 | cncfanatics | now I need a good HUD & a combat log then i'm set |
| 20:08.13 | jme | archud2 and simplecombatlog |
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| 20:09.54 | Morgh | I've ended up with IceHUD and MSBT myself. MSBT had some sweet customizability |
| 20:10.00 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 20:10.03 | cncfanatics | now this is nice of WAU |
| 20:10.07 | cncfanatics | it installs everything without externals |
| 20:10.13 | cncfanatics | but it didnt download them libs |
| 20:10.29 | cncfanatics | ah, only does it when updating installed addons |
| 20:10.30 | cncfanatics | nvm |
| 20:10.34 | cncfanatics | who's its author btw ? |
| 20:14.28 | sylvanaar | i guess me, or at least i have been for the past 7-8 mo |
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| 20:17.10 | syeren | cncfanatics, IceHud is awesome, although it lacks a fader featue :( |
| 20:17.10 | Cheads | sylvanaar great job with it imho |
| 20:17.12 | syeren | Which I would love. |
| 20:17.28 | cncfanatics | syeren, I'll probably get into trying both |
| 20:17.42 | sbu | hmmm ckknight - shadow workd death backfires are reported as 'unknown' |
| 20:17.50 | syeren | ArcHud has the Fader in it, but fucking sucks to customize from my experience. |
| 20:17.57 | sbu | (when using SW: Death on mob that doesnt die from it...) |
| 20:18.47 | cncfanatics | ckknight, you wrote omen right ? |
| 20:19.03 | sbu | no |
| 20:19.04 | charon | cncfanatics: antiarc does |
| 20:19.05 | sbu | Antiarc did |
| 20:19.12 | Chompers | Antiarc wrote Omen/Threat |
| 20:19.14 | charon | anyone here who knows a lot about the lua stuff and all? |
| 20:19.26 | charon | i'm trying to make something configurable in omen and ran into this problem |
| 20:19.30 | cncfanatics | oh yea ups |
| 20:19.33 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, ping |
| 20:19.38 | charon | i want to have an OnClick script for a frame |
| 20:19.44 | charon | but bugsack tells me: OmenThreatBar0 doesn't have a "OnClick" script |
| 20:19.53 | Antiarc | pong |
| 20:20.03 | charon | offending line is like: B:SetScript("OnClick", function() ... end) |
| 20:21.23 | charon | what am i missing? do i have to tell it that i'm _going to_ use an onclick script? |
| 20:22.00 | Antiarc | That means that OnClick isn't a valid handler name |
| 20:22.11 | stavmar_ | i am trying to get rid of classes on non players using CowTip/DogTag, How do i change this line so that it works correctly? [SmartClass:ClassColor] is what i have now. |
| 20:22.35 | Antiarc | charon: Why not just modify the dewdrop table? |
| 20:23.21 | abyssichate | Is there a way to suppress all the healing which are smaller than a fixed value (e.g.:500) in MSBT? |
| 20:23.25 | charon | Antiarc: i tried but i couldn't get back at the frame once i'm inside the color modifier frame |
| 20:24.04 | Antiarc | Ah, I do that by setting a variable that indicates what frame opened the dewdrop |
| 20:24.14 | Antiarc | I'll be adding configurable colors to the pullouts soon :) |
| 20:24.16 | charon | Antiarc: that's the point. i stole that code from the other stuff and it doesn't work :) |
| 20:24.34 | Antiarc | Oh, charon - it's not a button, it's a fram |
| 20:24.37 | Antiarc | frame* |
| 20:24.40 | Antiarc | frames don't have OnClick |
| 20:24.57 | Antiarc | Use OnMouseDown |
| 20:25.38 | cncfanatics | Antiarc |
| 20:25.44 | NightHawkAtWork | grar, please tell me one of you are experts with stored sql/stored procs. :) |
| 20:26.04 | charon | Antiarc: oh. thanks. |
| 20:26.05 | cncfanatics | could you add support to supress the threat warning if you're a paladin with righteous fury active ? (same as warrior with defense stance & bear druid that are already in) |
| 20:26.14 | cncfanatics | it goes crazy when i'm tanking in raids |
| 20:26.25 | Antiarc | I'm gonna add a toggle for it, yeah |
| 20:26.44 | NightHawkAtWork | I've got this stored procedure that outputs some info using the PRINT command. I need to, from my perl script, call that procedure and retrieve the result, but since it uses PRINT and not returning a real result set, I'm at a loss as to how to access/manipulate the output. |
| 20:28.42 | cncfanatics | god, I fear i'm going to have to use discord :/ |
| 20:29.24 | Gnarfoz | what for? oO |
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| 20:29.59 | NightHawkAtWork | .. anyone..? bueller? |
| 20:30.08 | cncfanatics | hmmm, discord got abandoned ? |
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| 20:30.28 | cncfanatics | I need an actionbar addon to manipulate buttons independantly or in self chosen groups |
| 20:30.33 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: you could create a table with the results or a view or sth. |
| 20:30.40 | hypetech | anybody know the blizz email address to request a sticky in the forums? we have a new person taking over our forum progression thread |
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| 20:30.52 | cncfanatics | hypetech, report the thread |
| 20:30.54 | Gnarfoz | report the thread? |
| 20:30.56 | hypetech | how do you do that? |
| 20:31.01 | cncfanatics | red x sign |
| 20:31.01 | Gnarfoz | click the biohazard symbol |
| 20:31.02 | NeoTron | NightHawkAtWork: brute force it - use sqlplus (or whatever) and parse the output |
| 20:31.05 | cncfanatics | when ur logged i |
| 20:31.05 | Josh_Borke | snorks: the reason is there is overhead for a modular system |
| 20:31.06 | hypetech | ah |
| 20:31.21 | cncfanatics | snorks, are you the snorks from the paladin forum ? :p |
| 20:32.15 | hypetech | you can report individual posts, should I just report the first one? |
| 20:33.22 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: depending on the database you might also have a return statement |
| 20:33.45 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: (i.e. postgreqsql with pl/perl supports returning in the sproc) |
| 20:34.42 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: It's MS SQL Server |
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| 20:35.10 | NightHawkAtWork | and the sproc doesn't return anything, it just PRINTs a bunch of data. |
| 20:36.48 | cncfanatics | ~seen KarlThePagan |
| 20:36.52 | purl | karlthepagan <n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 9m 25s ago, saying: ';)'. |
| 20:37.16 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: eeks |
| 20:37.26 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43735 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: add kael'thas trash |
| 20:38.08 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: gonna take a look at my lecture script.. |
| 20:38.34 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: eeks is right. >< |
| 20:39.17 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: http://www.functionx.com/sqlserver/Lesson16.htm search for output parameters |
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| 20:40.14 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: you basically give a reference to the sproc which get's filled in the procedure |
| 20:41.00 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: er, not quit what I meant. :\ |
| 20:41.25 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: the sproc already exists, and I can't really modify it. (or probably shouldn't at least..) |
| 20:41.31 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: oh.. |
| 20:42.33 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: so you search for a way to redirect the output |
| 20:43.28 | Bam__ | aww... I could use the Waterfall docs now :/ |
| 20:43.46 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: in perl there was something with connection.preparestatement |
| 20:43.56 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: to redirect output, but i'm not sure.. long time ago |
| 20:44.07 | cncfanatics | Bam__, Nargiddley is a walking doc when he's on, he's sleeping atm though |
| 20:44.15 | cncfanatics | you should try again in some 8 hours |
| 20:44.39 | Bam__ | hehe... well I don't have any specific question really... I just want to know what is available in general :) |
| 20:44.45 | cncfanatics | oh heh |
| 20:44.49 | cncfanatics | check the baggins code then |
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| 20:44.53 | cncfanatics | uses the API |
| 20:45.01 | cncfanatics | if you want to use aceoptions, check the aceoptions table doc |
| 20:45.03 | Bam__ | yea good idea |
| 20:45.21 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: plan on fixing WAU positions sometime? its broke in the latest and not saving |
| 20:45.23 | Bam__ | no I will need more than what ace options can do |
| 20:45.29 | Bam__ | I think... |
| 20:45.50 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` its really not broken |
| 20:46.16 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` move wau to another directory and try |
| 20:46.29 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: no |
| 20:46.30 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` im added a settings reset option |
| 20:46.51 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: i wiped all my saved stuff and it went back to default, now when i move it it doesn't save |
| 20:47.21 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` #wau |
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| 20:53.30 | Bam__ | do you know if there are plans to add a multiline textbox to Waterfall? |
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| 20:56.14 | hypetech | hmm |
| 20:56.19 | hypetech | ora2 error after last updating |
| 20:56.19 | hypetech | http://www.pastey.net/70764 |
| 20:57.50 | sbu | then install windowlib :p |
| 20:58.24 | deltron | all these mods are separating their libraries out and screwing me up :P |
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| 21:02.14 | hypetech | anybody know why my fubar wouldn't be going all the way to the edge of my screen on my top bar anymore? |
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| 21:02.29 | renchap | i have some prat weird errors... |
| 21:03.03 | renchap | Cannot find a library instance of SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 21:03.29 | hypetech | well do you have SharedMedia-1.0? |
| 21:03.50 | renchap | yes |
| 21:03.57 | renchap | SharedMedia and SharedMediaLib |
| 21:03.58 | hypetech | how about SharedMediaLib? |
| 21:04.00 | hypetech | hmm |
| 21:04.16 | vhaarr | Mikk: oRA2 errors |
| 21:05.26 | renchap | FuBarPlugin-2.0 requires Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 21:05.28 | renchap | wtf ? |
| 21:05.32 | renchap | fubar works fine :/ |
| 21:06.52 | trh | vhaarr: could you add SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 to the ClosetGnome .toc? the automatic dependency resolving doesn't work otherwise :( |
| 21:07.46 | sylvanaar | renchap embedded? |
| 21:07.53 | renchap | no |
| 21:08.47 | cncfanatics | hmmm, a question |
| 21:08.52 | cncfanatics | if a toc file loads an xml file |
| 21:08.57 | renchap | iam using wowacepy |
| 21:08.58 | cncfanatics | and you add files to load in the xml |
| 21:09.03 | cncfanatics | does it update with /console reloadui ? |
| 21:09.07 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:09.08 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 21:09.10 | cncfanatics | or does it ignore new files like toc files do ? |
| 21:09.13 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 21:09.17 | Gnarfoz | yes, it ignores them |
| 21:09.21 | cncfanatics | too bad |
| 21:09.26 | Gnarfoz | no new files without restarting wow :> |
| 21:09.57 | Gnarfoz | would've been kind of an obvious loophole, seeing back in the day xml was the (only?) way to add script files |
| 21:10.30 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: That was loooooooong ago -- the TOC file has been for a -long- time. |
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| 21:11.39 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: so? the sandbox has been there -forever- |
| 21:11.46 | Thrae | Funkeh`: TinyUrl does cache its results on its own side, but the urls are not persistent (there's another service for that). So that means a TinyUrl lasts a variable amount of time. |
| 21:11.58 | vhaarr | trh: you can commit? |
| 21:12.12 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Oh, you mean adding new files? Right. |
| 21:12.22 | Gnarfoz | I didn't, cncfanatics did :> |
| 21:12.26 | Funkeh` | Thrae: ah, right |
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| 21:16.42 | cncfanatics | dont see why it would be a loophole |
| 21:16.48 | cncfanatics | as you need a reloadui anyway |
| 21:17.30 | trh | vhaarr: sure, but i don't have a checked out closetgnome =) |
| 21:17.57 | Thrae | trh: It's time for your gnome to come out of that closet. |
| 21:18.30 | hypetech | can anybody take a look at http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_071307_171641.jpg and give me some insight as to why my fubar suddenly doesn't go to the edge of my screen at the top? :( |
| 21:18.40 | cncfanatics | lol, how do i configure the new pitbull ? |
| 21:18.46 | cncfanatics | cant seem to find a way to access the config |
| 21:19.14 | Thrae | !t http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_071307_171641.jpg |
| 21:19.15 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/27ozmh |
| 21:19.18 | Thorgard | hypetech, grab the edge and drag it out. ;P |
| 21:19.39 | dodgizzla | Thorgard: Whoa wait.. I can resize FuBar? |
| 21:19.46 | hypetech | Thorgard: omg |
| 21:19.50 | Thorgard | ... |
| 21:19.52 | cncfanatics | ckknight, latest pitbull bugged ? |
| 21:19.57 | hypetech | thank you Thorgard |
| 21:20.01 | Thorgard | dodgizzla, yes. ;P |
| 21:20.04 | cncfanatics | I jsut did a fresh install of everything and I cant access the pitbull config nor change my profile |
| 21:20.13 | Thorgard | No problem, hypetech |
| 21:20.19 | RogueShadow | o.O I suck reg expressions right now. |
| 21:20.26 | RogueShadow | But that's okay. |
| 21:20.33 | sylvanaar | RegexBuddy |
| 21:20.39 | sylvanaar | FTFW |
| 21:21.09 | dodgizzla | LAWL. Why doesn't anybody say so.. all my problems vanished \o/ |
| 21:21.11 | dodgizzla | Thorgard: Much <3 |
| 21:21.20 | Thorgard | For The French Win (doesn't exist, so it's FTL)? |
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| 21:22.15 | cncfanatics | hmmm, could someone recommend me a unitframe addon then ? pitbull doesnt work :/ |
| 21:22.16 | sbu | you can dodgizzla :o http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot060907225025ni9.jpg - ~1 month ago |
| 21:22.29 | RogueShadow | sylvanaar: wow, so good you recommend something that costs money |
| 21:23.00 | Gnarfoz | ? what's wrong with that? |
| 21:23.30 | Thorgard | Gnarfoz, money doesn't grow on trees!!!111 |
| 21:23.35 | Gnarfoz | so? earn some |
| 21:23.46 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 21:23.59 | NightHawkAtWork | RogueShadow: http://weitz.de/regex-coach/ is nice |
| 21:24.01 | RogueShadow | I found a nice free mysql database proggy. |
| 21:24.03 | Thorgard | Gnarfoz, do I look like the working type!? Don't think so, gimmie m shit free or DIAF! |
| 21:24.04 | dodgizzla | sbu: Yeah I had some issues, but being able to resize fubar.. well, all's good now :D |
| 21:24.13 | sbu | :p |
| 21:24.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Gnarfoz: why pay for something when there's good free alternatives ;) |
| 21:24.27 | RogueShadow | EMS SQL Manager - Lite |
| 21:24.33 | sylvanaar | im sorry, some software is worth the money |
| 21:24.46 | NightHawkAtWork | some is, but something to help you with regexes isn't :P |
| 21:24.51 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, you recommended some unit frames earlyer, could you repeat them ? |
| 21:24.55 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkAtWork: why poke the wrong person with some comment like that instead of actually suggesting a "good free alternative" to the guy in need? :p |
| 21:25.07 | sylvanaar | me? |
| 21:25.10 | Gnarfoz | which you did, so anything further was redundant :D |
| 21:25.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Gnarfoz: If you read what I posted, I did in fact. :) |
| 21:25.24 | Thorgard | Gnarfoz, epic fail! |
| 21:25.35 | Gnarfoz | NO U |
| 21:25.40 | Thorgard | Gnarfoz, take your silly logic and morals and go DIAF! |
| 21:26.14 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, is wasnt u ? damnit :p |
| 21:26.25 | RogueShadow | NightHawkAtWork: Naturally, why would you use something that's expensive when you can get something free, thats' just as good. |
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| 21:26.50 | sylvanaar | R |
| 21:27.05 | sylvanaar | lol, its not nearly as good - but its free there ya go |
| 21:27.09 | cncfanatics | RogueShadow, using that logic, why do people buy windows at all ? |
| 21:27.18 | NightHawkAtWork | cncfanatics: you know, I wonder that every day. :D |
| 21:27.24 | hypetech | is there any way I can keep sw_stats from saving data between sessions so it's not using 6MB every time I start the game and I have to /swstats nuke ? |
| 21:27.26 | RogueShadow | cncfanatics: They dont' know any better. Duh? |
| 21:27.36 | cncfanatics | NightHawkAtWork, the day everyone is as logic as RogueShadow microsoft goes bankrupt the day after |
| 21:28.01 | cncfanatics | I hope that day comes |
| 21:28.02 | cncfanatics | before my death |
| 21:28.04 | NightHawkAtWork | RogueShadow: also, there's a number of web-based regex utilites as well, google is your friend. :) |
| 21:28.26 | RogueShadow | yeah. Google is my homepage. And my search sidebar that's always open. |
| 21:29.36 | RogueShadow | Due to a recent discussion I downloaded ruby again. Made it download a list of addon's from files.wowace.com I used split to filter out the addon name, but a regex would be better. |
| 21:30.09 | NightHawkAtWork | *nod* |
| 21:30.24 | NightHawkAtWork | Are you just parsing the html that files.wowace.com pushes out?' |
| 21:30.47 | trh | there'd still be free software |
| 21:30.51 | RogueShadow | Yeah. It was just a spur of the moment idea. Based on a ruby example I was reading |
| 21:30.55 | trh | but it'd be alot worse than it is now |
| 21:31.02 | hani- | is reading rss a bit nicer to the server? |
| 21:31.15 | NightHawkAtWork | hani-: depends on what you're doing with the data, really |
| 21:31.30 | NightHawkAtWork | If all you're doingis pullling down a page and thats it, it's a wash either way, really. |
| 21:31.48 | sylvanaar | free software is made by people with free time that they get from money |
| 21:32.03 | NightHawkAtWork | But if you're pulling down a list of addons, and then downloading further from there, the RSS feed provides a lot more information for you to work with. |
| 21:32.25 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: that's not strictly true. |
| 21:32.51 | NightHawkAtWork | A fair amount of free software actually comes from software companies who release parts of their code as open source |
| 21:32.58 | trh | sylvanaar: not necessarely, there are companies that pay people to do free software, but i meant more, that not every software developer is working as a software developer |
| 21:33.11 | trh | sylvanaar: some do work as whatever and program only for fun |
| 21:33.13 | NightHawkAtWork | consider Apple with Darwin, WebKit, and a significant number of other technologies, are all free software. |
| 21:33.22 | sylvanaar | money is needed to make it free |
| 21:33.41 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: but still apple os costs money |
| 21:33.51 | Thorgard | sylvanaar, no it's not. ;P |
| 21:33.53 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: well yes, Mac OS X is much more than just darwin. :) |
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| 21:34.09 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: if everyone would use linux, there wouldn't be darwin, webkit etc. |
| 21:34.25 | dodgizzla | Question: cyCircled should have no impact on FPS, no? It just changes textures? |
| 21:34.26 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: Probably, but i wasn't addressing that point :P |
| 21:34.55 | dodgizzla | Also, question^2: Why the f$%k do I always get ads about female birth control stuff in WAU!? |
| 21:35.05 | hypetech | lol |
| 21:35.08 | cncfanatics | dodgizzla, they added adds sadly |
| 21:35.10 | dodgizzla | Is this an evil secret plan so people switch to other updaters? |
| 21:35.11 | trh | dodgizzla: targeted ads :P |
| 21:35.17 | ulic | dodgizzla: better safe than sorry |
| 21:35.27 | NightHawkAtWork | dodgizzla: be less female. |
| 21:35.30 | dodgizzla | cncfanatics: Oh I don't have a problem with that. In fact, I always click them when I update, which is about 50 times a day :D |
| 21:35.33 | Kaelten|Work | we're going to be moving to better ads shortly. |
| 21:35.35 | sylvanaar | you have to pay the programmer, or the programmer has to pay his bills via another job, or the programmer is independently wealthy or otherwise supported by money |
| 21:35.43 | dodgizzla | NightHawkAtWork: Last time I checked I wasn't female at all. :\ |
| 21:35.50 | dodgizzla | ulic: True :D |
| 21:35.53 | sylvanaar | money drives everything |
| 21:35.58 | NightHawkAtWork | dodgizzla: then maybe its because you keep clicking the adds, it thinks you are. :P |
| 21:36.15 | dodgizzla | NightHawkAtWork: So you're saying you're tracking your users like Google does? :> |
| 21:36.30 | Thorgard | sylvanaar, you just blew my mind.. now I'ma go cry. :( |
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| 21:36.47 | NightHawkAtWork | dodgizzla: i'm not tracking anyone, i don't have any power at wowace or the ad company. I am, however, stalking you. |
| 21:37.41 | dodgizzla | I'm relieved then |
| 21:37.49 | dodgizzla | No wait. |
| 21:37.55 | dodgizzla | Ah, nevermind |
| 21:38.50 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: meh, I'm not about to get into a huge fsf vs the world discussion, but the point remains that there's little point in paying for a piece of software when there are free alternatives that are just as good. For something like "regex buddy", I have a hard time believing that it can do anything that can't be done via free alternatives. |
| 21:39.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Obviously, operating systems and larger proprietary software are an entirely different ball game, because of scaling, compatability, and support issues. |
| 21:40.16 | trh | regexbuddy is pretty expensive for such a simple tool :) |
| 21:41.25 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah. It's something I'd pay ~10 USD for, but 40 is a little nuts. |
| 21:41.46 | trh | it's 30$, but still.. 10USD is what i'd pay too for it :) |
| 21:42.09 | NightHawkAtWork | their page says 39.95 USD. *shrug* :P |
| 21:42.12 | cncfanatics | any possibility to make bartenders buttons semi transparent if they're not cooling down, nevcairiel |
| 21:42.15 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 21:42.36 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: oh.. damn.. its 30EUR |
| 21:42.41 | NightHawkAtWork | :P |
| 21:42.53 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: seems like they automatically display $ / € |
| 21:43.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Apparently so. |
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| 21:44.44 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: hm no, only full transparence for the bar |
| 21:45.57 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, damn, any plans to implent it ? |
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| 21:47.54 | cncfanatics | oh, and any way to disable that automatic positioning when going near another bar ? :p |
| 21:48.26 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: toggle sticky frames in the menu |
| 21:49.53 | Tinyboom | any reason I can't reset Violation stats, even when assist in raids... or solo |
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| 21:51.32 | Funkeh` | Tinyboom: its a bug, untick and tick track in damage done |
| 21:51.32 | Funkeh` | you need to do it after every relog/reload ui :/ |
| 21:52.04 | Funkeh` | Mikk: ressurection.lua 161 attempt to index global frame a nil value (when leaving raid) |
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| 21:53.24 | Sais | Hmm. Do we now have "join-my-group" spam? |
| 21:53.34 | Funkeh` | huh? |
| 21:54.42 | Sais | Twice I've been invited by level 1s with random-char names to join a group. The first was pretty persistent. Didn't wait to see how persistent the second would be. |
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| 21:55.04 | dodgizzla | Hm, I can't change the thickness of individual FuBars? I've got two, and when I change the thickness of one, the other changes, too :/ |
| 21:55.33 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Most settings relating to the display of the bars, sans actual width, are shared between all bars |
| 21:55.40 | sbu | yep Saint-N |
| 21:55.42 | sbu | err sail |
| 21:55.44 | sbu | Sais |
| 21:55.45 | dodgizzla | Hm, bummer, but whatever :D |
| 21:56.10 | Xuerian | dodgizzla: Yeah, I've wanted individual settings too - It isn't destined to happen though, ck has moved on. And once that happens, he rarely goes back. |
| 21:56.28 | Sais | lol |
| 21:56.39 | Tinyboom | Funkeh`: thanks |
| 21:56.55 | Sais | sbu: I'm guessing they then go and use /p to send their spam if you join the group. |
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| 21:58.05 | sbu | right |
| 21:58.55 | hypetech | actually, it's a raid group they invite you to and spam you to death |
| 22:00.46 | Sais | Loveley. And of course you can't right-click and report them as spammers because it's not a whisper... that's one thing that's annoyed me about the interface - you can only right click on nicks in certain places or certain types of messages. |
| 22:01.25 | Xuerian | sais: "Now have"? |
| 22:01.31 | Xuerian | I've been having group spam for months |
| 22:01.38 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43736 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (95 files in 11 dirs): |
| 22:01.38 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 22:01.38 | CIA-22 | - Rework module system to be like AuldLangSyne's. |
| 22:01.38 | CIA-22 | - So very, very drycoded. That said, at least in principle, nothing has syntax errors. It might even all work. |
| 22:01.40 | *** join/#wowace Gilded (n=Gilded@38.119.107.73) |
| 22:02.00 | Xuerian | Dagnabbit.. Kemayo, get in here |
| 22:02.06 | Sais | I've not had anything like that until today. And then suddenly, like buses, I get two in a row. |
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| 22:02.47 | Xuerian | Sais: I just expand on my "No blind invites" policy, and decline everything I don't know is coming |
| 22:02.56 | Xuerian | Saves on annoyances doubly |
| 22:03.28 | vhaarr | Mikk: ping pong |
| 22:04.12 | Sais | Xuerian: Yeah - I seldom accept invites anyway; I'm usually to embroiled in what I'm doing. Perhaps that's why I only just noticed it - two obviously random nicks in the space of a couple of hours. |
| 22:05.38 | vhaarr | I wonder if the gold seller bot creators have monkeys writing the names for their bots, hoping that they'll some day write Hamlet with character names. |
| 22:06.26 | Sais | rofl |
| 22:06.28 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:06.34 | NightHawkAtWork | lol |
| 22:06.42 | Sais | As unlikely as that sounds..... |
| 22:07.16 | Sais | "TwasBrilligAndTheSlithyTothes invites you to join...." |
| 22:07.19 | NightHawkAtWork | vhaarr: I swear, if I get spammed by a bot named 'Mercutio' quoting lines from shakespear, I am so going to kill you. |
| 22:08.01 | trh | i imagine a hamlet bot whispering "to buy, or not to buy.... gold.... i mean" ;) |
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| 22:08.17 | Mercuti0 | To be or not to be! |
| 22:08.32 | vhaarr | haha |
| 22:08.38 | dodgizzla | Xuerian: I'm cool with that. ck shall bring glory to all WoW players through PitBull and Parrot :> And then, maybe he'll revive Sprocket *crosses finger* |
| 22:08.55 | RogueShadow | What is Sprocket |
| 22:09.06 | NightHawkAtWork | "to play -- to buy, perchance to buy gold; for in that play of wow what gold may come!" |
| 22:09.09 | Xuerian | RogueShadow: *Was. |
| 22:09.23 | RogueShadow | ah yes. Was |
| 22:09.24 | cncfanatics | cooldown count on bartender needs what addon ? |
| 22:09.30 | Xuerian | RogueShadow: A multi-level radial actionbutton menu triggerable by key, button, and in context of what frame it was over |
| 22:09.36 | hypetech | cncfanatics: cooldowncount |
| 22:09.39 | hypetech | p |
| 22:09.40 | hypetech | :p * |
| 22:09.42 | Arrowmaster | some of my friends on another irc network made an irc biblebot, it messaged you sections of the bible at a couple thousand words per minute |
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| 22:10.05 | RogueShadow | Xuerian: Reminds me of Neverwinter Nights. |
| 22:10.09 | Xuerian | RogueShadow: Exactly |
| 22:10.24 | Sais | trh: "Alas, poor Yorick, I have too much gold. Wouldst that you should be in need, I sell it cheaply..." |
| 22:10.39 | Xuerian | RogueShadow: It was blissful, if slightly less slick. But with the addition of secure frame theory and the lacking addition of SecurePie, it's rather hard (Read: Impossible) to create |
| 22:10.45 | Xuerian | s/create/recreate/ |
| 22:10.48 | RogueShadow | Xuerian: :) I once copied Diablo II's item system for a stupid game. A stupid game that let you do crap like that. |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r43737 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: Optional/Resurrection: Bugfix. |
| 22:11.33 | Xuerian | RogueShadow: Heheh |
| 22:12.01 | RogueShadow | But I digress. I could talk about the stuff I did in that crappy game for weeks. |
| 22:12.04 | hypetech | is there any graphical features to expiration or do I just have to use the slash commands and work with what it gives me in the chat window? |
| 22:12.36 | hypetech | ew "is there any graphical features"....I obviously need an english class ..... are there* |
| 22:13.45 | Xuerian | RogueShadow: Digression is entertainment |
| 22:14.06 | RogueShadow | True... |
| 22:14.40 | RogueShadow | The owner of the game banned me for deleting my own comments I would have gotten banned for. They were already deleted by me, and I got banned for them. |
| 22:14.46 | RogueShadow | Guy was screwed up. |
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| 22:15.47 | Xuerian | Hm, what game was this? |
| 22:15.49 | Thrae | Basically, Warlock Fear works like this -- When a Warlock is looking at the duration of his Fear, it lasts only a few seconds. When the afflicted looks at the duration of the Fear upon them, it lasts 30-600 seconds. In other words, Warlock Fear distorts time and space. |
| 22:16.22 | Arrowmaster | so true |
| 22:16.36 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:16.37 | Arrowmaster | when i need it to last it breaks right away, when it doesnt matter it lasts forever |
| 22:16.54 | trh | Arrowmaster: it's probably due to the running of the feared character |
| 22:17.08 | trh | Arrowmaster: einstein proved that the time in fast moving objects is bend ;) |
| 22:17.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah, when it does last it runs out of cast range canceling my cast anyway |
| 22:17.57 | Thrae | !t http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html <-- I suggest this addon to help you with Fear, Sap, and other disorient/fear effects. |
| 22:17.59 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/yw5cgg <-- I suggest this addon to help you with Fear, Sap, and other disorient/fear effects. |
| 22:18.34 | hani- | hahaha |
| 22:18.35 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 22:18.42 | hypetech | lol |
| 22:19.58 | Sirow | lol ! |
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| 22:22.19 | RogueShadow | Xuerian: http://www.graalonline.com |
| 22:22.46 | RogueShadow | Xuerian: I played it for a while. o.O It was an interesting experience. |
| 22:23.29 | sdouble | I just spent about an hour trying to figure out why mysql wasn't working with my php. Finally figured out I needed to get php5-mysql =/ |
| 22:23.38 | sdouble | oops, wrong channel. |
| 22:23.50 | RogueShadow | alrighty then. |
| 22:24.01 | Xuerian | Looks.... a little... interesting.. |
| 22:24.13 | cncfanatics | sdouble, debian ? :p |
| 22:24.17 | RogueShadow | Xuerian: You have no idea.... |
| 22:24.25 | sdouble | basicall, using ubuntu. |
| 22:24.30 | RogueShadow | It started out a clone of Zelda for SNES, in java. |
| 22:24.33 | cncfanatics | debian derivate, basicly debian :p |
| 22:24.37 | sdouble | yeah. heh |
| 22:24.40 | RogueShadow | Zelda Online |
| 22:25.02 | RogueShadow | Then it was a free game called graal, still crappy, but it was free, and you could play with other people in a persistant world. |
| 22:25.18 | RogueShadow | It's entirely done by the players, by crappy players, for crappy players. |
| 22:25.24 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:25.27 | *** join/#wowace Rezzie (n=Rezzie@unaffiliated/rezzie) |
| 22:25.34 | RogueShadow | But you could make stuff and show it to your friends. |
| 22:25.36 | Xuerian | Sounds sortof like BYOND |
| 22:25.36 | yacoob | truly a crapfest? |
| 22:25.38 | RogueShadow | So it was fun to make stuff in. |
| 22:25.49 | RogueShadow | Like a super graphical scriptible chatroom. |
| 22:25.49 | *** part/#wowace Rezzie (n=Rezzie@unaffiliated/rezzie) |
| 22:25.54 | RogueShadow | It was supa fun |
| 22:25.56 | RogueShadow | for what it was |
| 22:26.06 | RogueShadow | Then people started thinking the crap they made for it was a game. |
| 22:26.09 | Xuerian | I believe I'd still rather nwn :p |
| 22:26.40 | RogueShadow | Then they allowed them to create thier own game servers's. and started charging to play crap content made by crap players. |
| 22:26.53 | Xuerian | Also sounds like WoS... |
| 22:27.25 | RogueShadow | Somehow they found how there was something negative on wikipedia about them. By them I mean. Unixmad aka Stephane Portha the game owner. |
| 22:27.44 | RogueShadow | Wiki wars ensued, diliberations began. |
| 22:28.00 | RogueShadow | The mediator got mad and almost lost his chance to become a wiki administrator, Mad at unixmad I mean. |
| 22:28.11 | RogueShadow | Later on Graal was banned from wikipedia |
| 22:28.32 | RogueShadow | And anybody from graal was banned from graal if they supported negative things in wikipedia |
| 22:28.32 | Xuerian | Bet that was entertaining to watch. |
| 22:28.43 | RogueShadow | Xuerian: Yes yes it was |
| 22:29.04 | RogueShadow | Did I mention the game was charged for by this time? |
| 22:29.11 | RogueShadow | Those people payed to play. |
| 22:29.12 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 22:29.28 | RogueShadow | This is the reason nobody has heard of graal, nobody smart will review it. |
| 22:29.35 | Thrae | "The Wiki Wars -- The Beginning. Long ago, there was a stupi--especially hands--idi--geniu--retar--..." |
| 22:29.50 | ToastTheif | am I the only one looking forward to the next Ice Age? |
| 22:29.56 | RogueShadow | But I admit, I had hella fun modding it, scripting it. and generally having a programming blast. |
| 22:30.13 | Saint-N | hrm they did a nice job on antix-mepis |
| 22:30.16 | Xuerian | ToastTheif: I'm looking forward to the next Scrat Clips. |
| 22:30.21 | Xuerian | Ice Age is just a side effect. |
| 22:30.31 | Saint-N | it runs super smooth on my thinkpad pii-233 with 292mb ram |
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| 22:30.35 | RogueShadow | AlexanderYoshi could tell you if he were still around. |
| 22:30.49 | Thrae | ToastTheif: Soon the non-believers shall be encased in an icy dea--oh, you mean the movie series? |
| 22:30.50 | RogueShadow | I found out he was into WoW working with Cosmos after I started wow |
| 22:30.58 | ToastTheif | no |
| 22:30.59 | Xuerian | lol |
| 22:31.00 | RogueShadow | He's Graal scripting legend of the past. |
| 22:31.02 | ToastTheif | I mean a real ice age |
| 22:31.07 | ToastTheif | but what is Scrat Clips |
| 22:31.15 | Xuerian | ToastTheif: Never watched ice age, have you. |
| 22:31.24 | RogueShadow | lol. I think my digression turned from entertainment to boredom |
| 22:31.52 | Xuerian | RogueShadow: probably a good thing, cosmos has a history in this room better left quiet :p |
| 22:31.55 | ToastTheif | I watched the first one |
| 22:32.03 | Xuerian | ToastTheif: Scrat is the squirrel-rat |
| 22:32.05 | RogueShadow | Never knew :) |
| 22:32.16 | ToastTheif | ooh |
| 22:32.20 | Xuerian | ToastTheif: With scenes dispersed throughout the movie |
| 22:32.37 | ToastTheif | well I just think a real ice age would be interesting |
| 22:32.39 | RogueShadow | I don't like Cosmos myer... scratch that discussion. |
| 22:32.44 | ToastTheif | it might suck... but interesting anyway |
| 22:33.19 | Xuerian | ToastTheif: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_eZqpHDUAA |
| 22:33.52 | ToastTheif | yeah I've actually seen those now that you mention it |
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| 22:37.05 | ToastTheif | so Im guessing Im the only one that would want a real ice age then? |
| 22:37.35 | Xuerian | It'd be neat. |
| 22:37.37 | Xuerian | overclocking glaore. |
| 22:38.12 | ToastTheif | I was hoping for less computers in the ice age lol |
| 22:38.42 | ToastTheif | I dunno, I just have a picture of something more like the old days in terms of communication and travel and whatnot if an ice age occured |
| 22:40.35 | dodgizzla | Hm, I somehow fragged my Bartender3 :D When I unlock the bars the layer that would allow me to move bar 1,5,6 is under the buttons :D |
| 22:40.56 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 22:41.09 | Sole | good morning |
| 22:41.45 | Xuerian | ToastTheif: Less... computers....? |
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| 22:41.48 | Xuerian | ToastTheif: TREASON |
| 22:41.53 | Xuerian | ~whalenutshot ToastTheif |
| 22:41.57 | purl | ACTION smashes ToastTheif in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo |
| 22:45.17 | Mikk | "huge, yet swift" is a bit cheap |
| 22:45.46 | Mikk | ~literal whalenutshot |
| 22:45.58 | yacoob | huge, yet aerodynamic |
| 22:46.08 | Mikk | huge, wedge-shaped? |
| 22:46.37 | Mikk | ~literal whalenutshot $1 |
| 22:46.38 | purl | ACTION smashes $1 in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo |
| 22:48.30 | Mikk | no, purl, whalenutshot is <action> drops a vastly obese whale named Ricardo on $1's family jewels |
| 22:48.44 | Mikk | dzang |
| 22:48.48 | Mikk | no, purl, whalenutshot $1 is <action> drops a vastly obese whale named Ricardo on $1's family jewels |
| 22:48.56 | Thrae | ~emulate purl |
| 22:48.56 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 22:49.23 | Mikk | good thing i got the syntax wrong |
| 22:49.28 | RogueShadow | ~RogueShadow |
| 22:49.29 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, rogueshadow is pretty cool guy |
| 22:49.30 | Mikk | purl, no, whalenutshot $1 is <action> drops a vastly obese whale named Ricardo on $1's family jewels |
| 22:49.31 | purl | Mikk: okay |
| 22:49.58 | dodgizzla | ~whalenutshot Mikk |
| 22:49.58 | purl | ACTION drops a vastly obese whale named Ricardo on Mikk's family jewels |
| 22:50.08 | Mikk | >.< |
| 22:50.15 | Xuerian | Looks like it worked there, billy-bob. |
| 22:50.16 | dodgizzla | What is it with the obsession of whales here anyways? |
| 22:50.33 | Mikk | it's whale-fu |
| 22:50.34 | nevcairiel | ~whalefu |
| 22:50.35 | purl | Whalefu is an ancient irc fighting style of unknown origin that was mastered and extended by Neronix |
| 22:50.58 | dodgizzla | I see... |
| 22:51.04 | Thrae | dodgizzla: Goes back to the whole "slaps X with a trout" thing started by mIRC and co. |
| 22:51.08 | dodgizzla | *move back slowly...* |
| 22:51.12 | Thrae | The idea that whales trump trouts. |
| 22:51.12 | Mikk | it beats slapping people in the face with a piece of fish |
| 22:51.47 | Mikk | Ow! No punting! |
| 22:51.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:52.02 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: You realize that sentence makes it seem like you are slapping the trout itself with the assistance of Mikk ;) |
| 22:52.19 | Mikk | i think that was the point :P |
| 22:52.20 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: yes, that is what i said. :D |
| 22:52.52 | NightHawkAtWork | and not so much "with the assistance of Mikk" and more "using Mikk as an implement of slapage" |
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| 22:53.18 | Sole | whoa I just looked at the main pitbull file |
| 22:53.20 | Sole | that thing is big |
| 22:53.26 | Mikk | ~bugger NightHawkAtWork |
| 22:53.26 | purl | ACTION grabs hold of the Eiffel tower, dips it in Tabasco and fresh metal shavings, and asks NightHawkAtWork to please bend over. |
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| 22:54.26 | Xuerian | o_o |
| 22:55.18 | Thrae | purl, no emulate purl is <action> tries to look like herself. || <action> spams the channel with useless trivia, inane triggers, and finally, slaps itself with an especially large sea-faring mammal. || <reply> Mwhaha, fear my spam! || <reply> I shall not be ignored! || <reply> Spam? You guys are the ones that invited me! |
| 22:55.18 | purl | Thrae: okay |
| 22:57.33 | Mikk | The art of IRC buggery was invented by Peter DaSilva, prominent BOFH and incidentally the only man alive to have held the TWO top places in the Usenet posting stats simultaneously. |
| 22:58.55 | NightHawkAtWork | ugh, stored procedures give me headaches/ |
| 22:59.07 | Mikk | aaaaaaaahahahaha |
| 22:59.08 | Mikk | sql |
| 22:59.09 | Mikk | owned |
| 22:59.17 | Thrae | ~emulate Thrae |
| 22:59.18 | purl | I just learned how to divide by 0! Finally, I can get some action... |
| 22:59.33 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin: good, you want to help me with this problem? :P |
| 22:59.53 | Thrae | ~sql |
| 22:59.53 | purl | hmm... sql is handy for somethings but I think it might be overkill for PIM data. |
| 23:00.02 | Thrae | ~emulate purl |
| 23:00.03 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 23:00.07 | AKX | Challenge: Implement SQLite in Lua. |
| 23:00.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:00.34 | nevcairiel | its possible, just not in wowlua :P |
| 23:00.38 | Mikk | AKX: SQLite bindings exist |
| 23:00.45 | NightHawkAtWork | Mikk: meh, sql's good for lots of things. It's just i'm trying to do something with it that was never really intended. |
| 23:00.46 | Thrae | purl, no emulate purl is <action> tries to look like herself. || <action> spams the channel with useless trivia, inane triggers, and finally, slaps itself with an especially large sea-faring mammal. || <reply> Mwhaha, fear my spam! || <reply> I shall not be ignored! || <reply> Spam? You guys are the ones that invited me! || <reply> Arghh! Why don't you just go play with yourself for once?! Well, probably not "for once". |
| 23:00.47 | purl | okay, Thrae |
| 23:00.47 | AKX | Yeah.. But PURE LUA! |
| 23:01.00 | Mikk | That'd be.. um. not so fast |
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| 23:01.03 | Dustwhisper | evening |
| 23:01.04 | AKX | Shuuuuush. |
| 23:01.08 | AKX | Pure lua is fast! |
| 23:01.16 | Thrae | ~ugt | Dustwhisper |
| 23:01.21 | Thrae | ~ugt |
| 23:01.22 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 23:01.25 | Dustwhisper | ugt ? |
| 23:01.32 | Mikk | Mhm, especially handling binary information via string.format and bitlib? :P |
| 23:01.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Dustwhisper: morning. |
| 23:01.52 | Mikk | NightHawkAtWork: dump em all out to a file? |
| 23:01.52 | Dustwhisper | =) |
| 23:01.59 | Dustwhisper | anyone tried a dru tank on morogrim btw? |
| 23:04.09 | AKX | Hm, in fact it'd almost make sense for WoWLua to include SQLite. |
| 23:04.33 | AKX | It'd actually likely be a very welcome addition, too. |
| 23:04.56 | Mikk | yeah. i'd love to have my game freeze while it's opening index files and data files and grepping through them |
| 23:04.58 | AKX | SELECT name, rarity FROM itemdb WHERE id=192; |
| 23:04.58 | Mikk | great idea >.< |
| 23:05.00 | nevcairiel | you would be able to communicate with the outside i guess, unless they cache the sqllite data files in memory and only write on quit |
| 23:05.09 | AKX | Mikk: SQLite supports memory databases. |
| 23:05.15 | AKX | And it's fast. |
| 23:05.41 | Mikk | so erm |
| 23:06.14 | Mikk | what's the benefit of turning "itemdb[192].name, itemdb[192].rarity]" into an SQL call? |
| 23:06.26 | nevcairiel | better searching :P |
| 23:06.28 | NightHawkAtWork | data manipulation, typically |
| 23:06.39 | NightHawkAtWork | search, sort, join, linked tables, etc. |
| 23:06.57 | AKX | Mikk, what's the benefit of, um, SELECT id FROM itemdb WHERE name LIKE "Sword of %" |
| 23:07.07 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 23:07.19 | Mikk | you realize that you can do all this already except a fuckload faster? |
| 23:07.26 | Mikk | just build some indices >.< |
| 23:07.30 | dodgizzla | whoohoo, I'm on EU PTR :o |
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| 23:08.08 | Mikk | There is nothing that SQL can do that you can't do faster yourself. |
| 23:08.13 | nevcairiel | obviously you wouldnt need sql anywhere when you can write your own data handling on arrays/tables :P |
| 23:08.15 | AKX | Mikk, agreed, there's overhead in parsing the SQL, but overall... letting _tried and tested_ code do the indexing and data storage..? |
| 23:08.50 | Mikk | The whole point of SQL was interoperability between different applications accessing the same data |
| 23:09.10 | Mikk | Any 1 app <> 1 data = duh? Write your own db. |
| 23:09.20 | AKX | 02:10.00 <Mikk> Any 1 app <> 1 data = duh? Reinvent the wheel. |
| 23:10.00 | nevcairiel | i like my wheel better |
| 23:10.06 | nevcairiel | its shaped like a triangle tho |
| 23:10.09 | AKX | But my wheel is pink. |
| 23:10.16 | AKX | And it has a 68" subwoofer. |
| 23:10.27 | RogueShadow | AKX Specialized code, for a specialized game. Runs 10x faster than Generalized code. ? |
| 23:10.41 | AKX | RogueShadow: Specialized code in Lua? |
| 23:10.44 | sbu | dodgizzla: wow :p |
| 23:10.50 | Mikk | Lua is plenty fast |
| 23:10.57 | nevcairiel | C is plenty faster |
| 23:11.04 | dodgizzla | sbu: No sites listing the reagents for the AQ20 enchants, so I'm checking them out :P |
| 23:11.12 | AKX | Sigh, I was just saying, it wouldn't be a _bad_ addition, would it? |
| 23:11.14 | sbu | *testing* |
| 23:11.18 | sbu | dodgizzla: yup, right |
| 23:11.37 | dodgizzla | meh, not exalted with keepers of time yet :\ |
| 23:11.38 | Mikk | Imo it'd be a horrible addition because every damn fool would start using SQL tables for everything in their addon |
| 23:11.40 | sbu | meh where is my char |
| 23:11.42 | charon | what kind of object do i return from the get function of a dewdrop type="color" item? |
| 23:11.43 | Mikk | Bai performance |
| 23:12.15 | Mikk | Everyone's so damn conditioned to use SQL as soon as they want persistant storage they wouldn't be able to keep themselves from using it |
| 23:12.16 | AKX | Mikk, those damn fools would use unoptimized custom methods otherwise, no? |
| 23:12.52 | Mikk | self.db.profile.windowxpos = frame:GetLeft() <- unoptimized as hell ya |
| 23:13.16 | dodgizzla | Uuuh did somebody not have their Hatorade for breakfast? :> |
| 23:13.26 | Xuerian | Why would anyone use sql for settings? |
| 23:13.34 | Mikk | You haven't read enough code I see |
| 23:13.44 | Xuerian | Large cross-referenced database type things, sure... |
| 23:14.31 | Mikk | "Oh, wait, I have a GREAT idea. I'll create a table named CHARACTERS, which cross-indexes the PROFILES table, which ..." |
| 23:14.48 | Xuerian | Mikk: SQL sodomized you at a young age, didn't it. |
| 23:14.54 | AKX | Call me an optimist, but I'd guess, say, LootLink or MobInfo2 would be quicker with a dedicated database instead of a Lua table... |
| 23:15.02 | Mikk | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:15.06 | Mikk | quicker? |
| 23:15.11 | AKX | .. |
| 23:15.14 | Xuerian | Mikk: I jest, but anyway. |
| 23:15.27 | AKX | I remember LootLink hang my WoW back in the day when I did some custom search. |
| 23:15.54 | nevcairiel | I suppose Auctioneer would benefit from it. It saves alot of redundant data to make searching easier/faster .. SQL could do that for it. |
| 23:16.18 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: I doubt blizzard would be too much for something like that |
| 23:16.36 | Mikk | And the overhead of storing the info in SQL to begin with wouldn't trump the already existing overhead by a factor of 5? |
| 23:17.37 | Mikk | And when was SQL ever fast for freetext search btw? |
| 23:18.23 | Xuerian | ~whalecrit the media |
| 23:18.24 | purl | ACTION crits the media with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. the media dies |
| 23:19.45 | dodgizzla | wtf |
| 23:19.46 | sylvanaar | i was too busy to answer back about regexbuddy, it supports like 10 regex flavors, it generates code to use the regexes in like 15 languagues, has built in grep, and regex library... |
| 23:19.51 | dodgizzla | An enchant requiring Fel Lotus!? |
| 23:20.47 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r43738 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:20.47 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 23:20.47 | CIA-22 | - Updated deDE Locals |
| 23:23.06 | Mikk | Tbh, if you want to ask for something, ask for a lua lib to search fields of a table for specific value, with substring matching for strings |
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| 23:23.42 | Xuerian | That's be nice. |
| 23:23.48 | Xuerian | s/'s/'d/ |
| 23:24.04 | Mikk | Better yet, code it and give it to slouken. |
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| 23:30.09 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r43739 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Detached/deDE.lua: |
| 23:30.09 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 23:30.09 | CIA-22 | - Forgot to add a File... |
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| 23:31.56 | Mikk | http://luaforge.net/projects/wxlua/ <- whoa. wxWidgets for Lua, works under *nix and win32 |
| 23:32.04 | Mikk | GUI dev made piss easy? |
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| 23:33.36 | sbu | dodgizzla: whats required for subtlety |
| 23:33.37 | sbu | ? |
| 23:34.27 | sbu | hm wtf broom mount |
| 23:35.31 | dodgizzla | wtf |
| 23:35.42 | dodgizzla | I bought greater agility from Violet Eye vendor |
| 23:35.52 | dodgizzla | Learned it, but it doesn't show up in my Enchanting UI |
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| 23:37.06 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 23:37.08 | cncfanatics | lua gui programs ? |
| 23:37.12 | cncfanatics | that sounds sexy |
| 23:37.15 | Mikk | very |
| 23:37.22 | cncfanatics | how good is wxwidgets ? |
| 23:37.29 | cncfanatics | in perfomrance & what you can do with it I mean |
| 23:37.33 | Mikk | lots of apps use it for cross platform UIs |
| 23:37.47 | cncfanatics | what can u not do with it ? (please make this list be short) |
| 23:37.49 | Mikk | gives you menus, edit boxes, buttons, windows ... |
| 23:37.53 | Mikk | feck knows :P |
| 23:38.00 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Download it and try it. |
| 23:39.04 | dodgizzla | buggy crap.. doesn't show up when you list weapons only, but searching for agility or listing all enchants does show it |
| 23:40.33 | Xuerian | Can't write php worth shit in the evening >_o |
| 23:41.51 | dodgizzla | Boubouille: You there? I got screenies of some of the AQ20 enchants from PTR |
| 23:42.15 | Boubouille | me be here ! me be here ! me be here ! |
| 23:42.51 | Mikk | ... AQ20? |
| 23:43.09 | dodgizzla | Mikk: Subtetly on Cloak, Threat on Gloves, Stealth on Cloak |
| 23:43.22 | Diao | 15 agi gloves |
| 23:43.36 | Mikk | yeah butbut |
| 23:43.36 | dodgizzla | Boubouille: Query, I guess? |
| 23:43.43 | Mikk | has something changed about them i mean? |
| 23:43.48 | Mikk | to require PTR screenshots? |
| 23:43.52 | Diao | they're available on outland vendors as rep now |
| 23:43.55 | Diao | in ptr |
| 23:43.58 | Mikk | aaahhhhh |
| 23:44.05 | dodgizzla | What Diao said |
| 23:44.13 | dodgizzla | Also they require different (Level 70) mats |
| 23:44.28 | Mikk | yay, i was running out of GEEs :P |
| 23:44.54 | Diao | lol |
| 23:44.57 | Diao | i like the new change |
| 23:45.06 | Diao | you can now convert nexus crystals to small prismatics |
| 23:45.09 | dodgizzla | damned.. and again on the PTR.. I should have visited the enchanting trainer |
| 23:45.11 | Diao | so people who are bored can like |
| 23:45.13 | Diao | duo ZG |
| 23:45.17 | Diao | and get a bunch of extra shards |
| 23:45.42 | dodgizzla | I still have 10+ Nexus :D |
| 23:45.55 | Mikk | i have a bunch lying around too :> |
| 23:46.03 | Mikk | what's the conversion rate? 1->1? |
| 23:46.25 | Diao | yeah |
| 23:46.29 | Mikk | poo |
| 23:46.32 | Diao | they also added large -> small conversion |
| 23:46.34 | Diao | not sure what the point of that is |
| 23:46.49 | Diao | there's like no enchants that use smalls |
| 23:46.52 | Diao | that are worth it |
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| 23:49.24 | dodgizzla | Diao: Well, the AQ20 enchants do use small :D |
| 23:50.35 | Diao | oh they do? |
| 23:50.40 | Diao | ok then |
| 23:51.28 | Aenslaed | Is a questfu dev around? Getting alot of repeating errors in r43736. |
| 23:52.22 | Xuerian | Aenslaed: Kemayo did a few drycommits, and isn't back yet. |
| 23:52.50 | Aenslaed | ah |
| 23:54.46 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 23:54.48 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 3m 36s ago, saying: 'afaik yes'. |
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| 23:56.04 | raider|poul | are the functions made for calc the size of used memory, ect of a table? |
| 23:56.33 | raider|poul | thinking for when storing large amount of data is a table |
| 23:56.50 | raider|poul | if there are some simple premade function to return the kb size of the table |
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| 23:58.55 | cncfanatics | ping, ckknight are you around ? having some issues with pitbull |
