| 00:00.38 | Xerophyte | I wonder if that can be used to rename 'lock pets... |
| 00:00.41 | Antiarc|Work | - A stunned paladin can cast Blessing of Protection on another player. |
| 00:00.41 | Antiarc|Work | - A sapped paladin can cast Blessing of Protection on another player. |
| 00:02.02 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:02.05 | ckknight | Pallies are OP |
| 00:02.11 | ckknight | <--- Pally |
| 00:02.16 | Nosrac | o.O |
| 00:02.16 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 00:03.56 | NeoTron | so it seem my cable net connection also doesn't like the heat |
| 00:04.34 | NimbleRabit | Gagorian: hey, with my Dr.Dmg when I hover over "Attack" it's showing exactly the same +dmg bonus for 1% hit and 1%crit |
| 00:05.04 | charon | Antiarc|Work: do you have a link to that buglist? i seem to have missed it |
| 00:05.38 | trh | Antiarc|Work: where you found that list? |
| 00:06.20 | Xerophyte | NimbleRabit: What should it be showing? |
| 00:06.24 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: old bug thats not really that big of a deal but im noticing that threat from casting debuffs isnt being counted when it first puts you in combat on cast |
| 00:07.23 | NimbleRabit | Xerophyte: the number for how much 1% hit and 1% crit benefit me is most definitely not exactly the same |
| 00:09.13 | Xerophyte | NimbleRabit: True, but the effects that make them differ are a bit too esoteric to accurately be modeled in DrD. What do you think it should account for that it doesn't right now? |
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| 00:10.10 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43552 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: Threat-1.0: Updated translation koKR |
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| 00:13.16 | NimbleRabit | Xerophyte: I don't really know. I just was hoping to be able to use it to help me determine which stats are the biggest upgrade for me (based on current gear) so I can more easily decide between gear |
| 00:15.28 | Arrowmaster | for white damage hit should be better than crit until you max out on hit |
| 00:15.32 | Xerophyte | Rabit: It does for the most part, I'd say, much though the melee module is under dev. Weighting stuff like flurry, trinket procs, weapon enchants and so on that are the only differences between hit & crit on autoattacks for "most" classes would require a pretty detailed simulation, though |
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| 00:16.06 | Tem | I wrote a frostbolt spamming simulation once |
| 00:16.08 | Tem | that was fun |
| 00:17.13 | mikma | frostbolt <3 |
| 00:17.26 | Xerophyte | Not saying that providing said simulation is unpossible - heck, I know you can get spreadsheets to do just that for most melee classes - just that it's a bit much for a purely analytic tooltip addon to deal with |
| 00:17.38 | mikma | there's the video where lvl60 mage wins lvl60 warrior with only spamming frostbolt rank1 |
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| 00:18.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43553 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 00:18.38 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - add option to enable/disable events as well as having events disabled by default. |
| 00:18.38 | CIA-22 | - still need to set up a system where the events become unregistered at that point. |
| 00:19.28 | Xerophyte | 'course, if you're a hunter or druid and getting equivalent autoattack damage from 1% hit and 1% crit then you've got a pretty legitimate whine here :p |
| 00:20.30 | trh | unless you do exactly 200% damage on a crit |
| 00:20.48 | Xerophyte | Almost all melee classes do exactly 200% damage on a crit for autoattacks |
| 00:20.59 | Guillotine | druids do 215% with talents |
| 00:21.08 | Guillotine | and hunters do 240% or something |
| 00:21.13 | trh | hunters do 230% (+ gems, multishot does more etc) |
| 00:21.15 | Xerophyte | Hence comment on hunters and druids, yes :) |
| 00:21.27 | trh | i think rogues to more too, or? |
| 00:21.32 | Xerophyte | Only skills |
| 00:21.39 | Guillotine | yup, only some skills. not white damage |
| 00:21.40 | trh | which they often use |
| 00:22.01 | Guillotine | I was thinking of writing an attack model framework to simulate fights |
| 00:22.06 | Xerophyte | Certainly, but that has nothing to do with what DrDamage should report on your autoattack tooltip |
| 00:22.07 | Guillotine | I might still do it eventually, but... |
| 00:23.06 | sbu | yay ckknight, nice :) |
| 00:23.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43554 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - do nothing if :UnregisterParserEvent(filter) would not unregister anything. |
| 00:23.22 | ckknight | :-) |
| 00:23.31 | ckknight | I keep thinking of ways to optimize |
| 00:23.36 | ckknight | gotta be as efficient as possible |
| 00:24.11 | sbu | how does it work, just put disabled = true, in RegisterCombatEvent block? |
| 00:24.29 | ckknight | defaultDisabled = true |
| 00:24.38 | ckknight | sbu: what're you adding? |
| 00:24.38 | sbu | ah okay |
| 00:24.47 | sbu | nothing yet :) |
| 00:24.50 | ckknight | sbu: or are you just manipulating what's already there? |
| 00:24.57 | ckknight | oh, in that case, you can turn it off ingame |
| 00:25.43 | sbu | thinking about "crushing! bad tank!" (or something nice :p) - which will be disabled by default... |
| 00:26.04 | sbu | so should not disturb 'normal' people ;o |
| 00:26.33 | sbu | hmm speaking of optimization - is there a way to restrict certain events to classes? |
| 00:26.37 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43555 10GridManaBars/GridManaBars.lua: |
| 00:26.37 | CIA-22 | GridManaBars: |
| 00:26.37 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.38 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2419.new#new |
| 00:26.44 | Kaelten | my long ass replies to the ideas of others |
| 00:26.55 | sbu | so you e.g. have "Soul Shard Gains" only for warlocks |
| 00:26.56 | ckknight | sbu: actually, I'll be adding options to the crushing/etc modifiers |
| 00:27.05 | ckknight | sbu: oh yea, should add that. |
| 00:27.06 | sbu | and dont have to listen for them on other classes |
| 00:27.29 | ckknight | I'll just wrap in an if statement :-P |
| 00:27.38 | Mudkips | wow Kaelten |
| 00:27.56 | ckknight | due to the idea that it's meant to be added onto arbitrary, things can change in an extremely fluid manner |
| 00:28.14 | ckknight | i.e. changing/removing/adding something doesn't break the whole system |
| 00:28.17 | Kaelten | Mudkips: ? |
| 00:28.39 | Mudkips | nothing |
| 00:28.54 | Mudkips | was reading that link |
| 00:29.22 | ckknight | Kaelten: whether, not wether |
| 00:29.49 | ckknight | Kaelten: also the Premium: line is screwy |
| 00:29.53 | ckknight | the "I do not want to have this" part |
| 00:30.41 | Gagorian | Xerophyte: If white melee is a one roll calculation like I've understood, then hit and crit will be the same if you only look at their effects without any procs etc |
| 00:30.53 | Gagorian | If crit multiplier is 100% |
| 00:31.21 | Kaelten | ckknight: rewrote that line |
| 00:31.41 | Xerophyte | Gagorian: Yes, I agree, that's entirely correct - I'm not the one disagreeing with your implementation here :) |
| 00:32.09 | Gagorian | Oh, it was addressed to nimblerabbit then |
| 00:32.21 | Gagorian | * NimbleRabit |
| 00:32.38 | Trancer | oh god no, there are /signed morons on the forum :( |
| 00:32.46 | NimbleRabit | yeah I get that now |
| 00:33.27 | NimbleRabit | I forgot that it it's probably very complicated to count procs |
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| 00:33.29 | Gagorian | Of course, the total effect has to be checked on each ability you use and sum their effects |
| 00:33.48 | Gagorian | I count procs, mostly, but when they happen, at least at the moment. |
| 00:33.52 | Gagorian | And not their average effect |
| 00:33.56 | Gagorian | I've implemented windfury so far |
| 00:34.08 | NimbleRabit | Ahh |
| 00:34.14 | NimbleRabit | I'm concerned with combat potency =P |
| 00:34.39 | NimbleRabit | which...seems hard to calcuate in |
| 00:34.52 | Gagorian | It's a big project for all classes, some of which I don't know anything about |
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| 00:35.14 | ckknight | Trancer: ? |
| 00:35.37 | Trancer | ckknight: some kiddies /signing what others are saying, it's such a pita |
| 00:35.41 | ckknight | I see. |
| 00:35.47 | Xerophyte | It's possible to handle. You'd basically have to make an assumption of average damage/energy, possibly taken from max dpe out of bs, ss, mutilate & hemo, and then add that * .2 * .01 to the hit%. |
| 00:36.03 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r43556 10Aloft/Options/CoreModules/Frame.lua: |
| 00:36.03 | CIA-22 | Aloft : |
| 00:36.03 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.21 | Xerophyte | Point is, it gets a bit messy when you start adding procs :) |
| 00:36.25 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 00:37.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43557 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 00:37.54 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - only register events if properly enabled |
| 00:37.54 | CIA-22 | - only register events that are enabled, automatically unregister events that become disabled. |
| 00:38.07 | Trancer | ckknight: sometimes I just wonder |
| 00:38.15 | ckknight | Trancer: hrm? |
| 00:38.16 | Trancer | ckknight: half of the WoW playerbase is a sysadmin or alike |
| 00:38.34 | Trancer | half of the xs4all staff plays WoW for example |
| 00:38.35 | Trancer | AOL, same |
| 00:38.41 | ckknight | k |
| 00:38.41 | Xerophyte | Rabit: Consider checking out http://rogue.raidcal.com/ if you want detailed stat comparisons and such for rogues |
| 00:38.44 | Trancer | why did nobody ever bother to contact you to host a box there |
| 00:38.56 | Trancer | or has anybody actually tried to get such a sponsorship? |
| 00:39.00 | ckknight | oh, some do, but not those types |
| 00:39.11 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 00:39.18 | ckknight | a lot of people have a "not my problem" mentality |
| 00:39.27 | Trancer | myeah probly |
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| 00:39.52 | Trancer | think I will just sir some people I know at ISPs |
| 00:39.57 | Trancer | there should be a simple solution.. |
| 00:40.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43558 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - soul shard event only exists for locks. |
| 00:40.43 | NimbleRabit | Xerophyte: heh it gave me all these warnings and stuff when I tried to open it in something that wasn't microsoft |
| 00:40.49 | Gagorian | Xerophyte: That's actually something I'd hope a plugin would do |
| 00:41.11 | Gagorian | DrDamage can count damages for everything, then a plugin will make rotations/dps models |
| 00:41.27 | Xerophyte | Rabit: It works in OO, but not the agility equivalency points I think |
| 00:43.20 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r43559 10Assessment/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:43.20 | CIA-22 | Assessment : |
| 00:43.20 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:43.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43560 10Parrot/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - fix a bug that could never happen, but Galka for some reason has. |
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| 00:46.14 | Galka_ | ^_^ |
| 00:48.29 | sbu | ckknight: mh and regarding crushings, i want them to be a notification with custom text, in addition to normal combat text (not just change the in-area text) - so i think an custom event would be fine here |
| 00:48.57 | ckknight | ah, fine |
| 00:49.58 | Xuerian | ... what.. is ... parrot? |
| 00:50.16 | sbu | and if its okay to have that stuff in your codebase but defaultDisabled = true - would be nice :) |
| 00:50.28 | Wobwork | Xuerian: KnightSCT =P |
| 00:50.30 | sbu | and shouldnt really bother anyone |
| 00:50.39 | Xuerian | Wobwork: Ahhhhhah. |
| 00:50.40 | sbu | ckknight: ah - another idea ;P |
| 00:51.11 | sbu | min. threshold for mana/hp gain/loss |
| 00:51.15 | ckknight | Xuerian: well, actually, the primary purpose of the addon is to eat your crackers |
| 00:51.22 | ckknight | Xuerian: being a combat text addon is merely a side effect |
| 00:51.24 | sbu | since i dont care about +5 HP every 3 seconds |
| 00:51.26 | Xuerian | ckknight: Of course. |
| 00:51.35 | ckknight | sbu: yea, I thought about that... |
| 00:51.37 | Xuerian | Happy accidents, eh |
| 00:52.51 | Ominous | right: i have a dell inspiron 9150 is it worth me updating to the geforce 8800 GTS or should i just go for the 8600 GT |
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| 00:55.45 | RogueShadow | Wobwork: KnightMSBT isn't it? |
| 00:55.53 | ckknight | it is closer to MSBT than SCT |
| 00:55.56 | ckknight | it's basically a clean room MSBT clone |
| 00:56.02 | Xuerian | Ominous: Price difference? |
| 00:56.08 | Ominous | £100 |
| 00:56.18 | RogueShadow | Darn right. MSBT is better. In my opinion. Only one that actually got me to pay attention to my damage |
| 00:56.20 | Xuerian | About 150$? o_0 |
| 00:56.28 | ckknight | $200 |
| 00:56.32 | ckknight | ish |
| 00:56.38 | Xuerian | fuckers with 2x higher value currency... |
| 00:56.54 | Xuerian | Anyway, stick with the 8600 or go with a 87xx |
| 00:56.57 | Ominous | Xuerian: just worried that if i pay the extra it will be wasted on my other parts eg dell motherboard |
| 00:57.17 | RogueShadow | Pay extra for core things. Spend less on upgradable things. |
| 00:57.18 | Xuerian | Ominous: If you plan to upgrade your motherboard/other soon, go with the 8800 |
| 00:57.32 | Xuerian | Otherwise stick with rogue >.> |
| 00:57.58 | Ominous | how much do good motherboards cost |
| 00:58.07 | Xuerian | Less than good video cards :) |
| 00:58.15 | RogueShadow | amen |
| 00:58.30 | RogueShadow | I spent a few weeks researching parts before I made a decision on mine. |
| 00:58.53 | Ominous | ya but then it starts to get silly as ill probs need a new psu then wont i? |
| 00:59.12 | Xuerian | A graphics card would be a more likely proponent of a psu upgrade than a motherboard |
| 00:59.27 | Xuerian | catalyst would be a better word there >_> |
| 01:00.08 | Ominous | can u see what power psu u have form windows? |
| 01:00.28 | Xuerian | Pop the case open and look on the sticker. |
| 01:00.37 | Ominous | ya pc is in a damn annoying position :P |
| 01:01.17 | Ominous | 375W :S |
| 01:02.37 | Ominous | that will need an update for whichever card i get wont it? |
| 01:03.29 | Xuerian | Definitely for the 8800. Maybe not for less, but it would most definitely run better with a higher quality&ability psu. Interesting things tend to happen when you don't have enough power |
| 01:03.48 | Ominous | like what? |
| 01:04.23 | Mudkips | things you wouldn't want happening :P |
| 01:04.28 | Xuerian | Lockups, crashes, things that appear to be software gliches, slower performance overall, and the like |
| 01:05.17 | sbu | is it possible to have castbars for the entire raid? |
| 01:05.26 | sbu | or only your group ? |
| 01:05.29 | Mudkips | maybe and why.... |
| 01:05.36 | pastamancer | sbu: any valid unit |
| 01:05.43 | pastamancer | well, any primary unit |
| 01:05.45 | sbu | hmm okay |
| 01:06.14 | sbu | wtb castbars for sRF! Saroz? :p |
| 01:06.41 | Ominous | how can i find out what m board i have |
| 01:07.30 | sbu | mh get some sysinfo tool |
| 01:08.08 | sbu | http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html |
| 01:08.13 | Xuerian | D:\Documents and Settings\Sky\My Documents\My Music\WoW\Sound\Music |
| 01:08.14 | Xuerian | er |
| 01:08.15 | Xuerian | well |
| 01:08.18 | Xuerian | ASIDE FROM MY WOW MUSIC |
| 01:08.22 | Xuerian | http://www.gtopala.com/ |
| 01:08.23 | Xuerian | :) |
| 01:09.00 | Xuerian | System Information for Windows, SIW. Nifty little free tool. |
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| 01:10.07 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r43561 10UnitActionBars/cfgdlg/Actions.lua: |
| 01:10.07 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 01:10.07 | CIA-22 | - Removed an extraneous print message. |
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| 01:14.07 | Ominous | ominous.me.uk/Motherboard.htm |
| 01:14.14 | Ominous | is what i have |
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| 01:15.05 | Ominous | so is it worth me updating to the 8800 with that? |
| 01:15.38 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43562 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua Data/Mage.lua Data/Warlock.lua): |
| 01:15.38 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 01:15.38 | CIA-22 | - Fixed caster module bug |
| 01:16.15 | Mudkips | dell? |
| 01:16.19 | Gagorian | Could soon be first release worthy version! |
| 01:16.21 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna go hand with my brother |
| 01:16.26 | ckknight | so cya all later |
| 01:16.32 | Xuerian | .... |
| 01:16.34 | Sole | bai |
| 01:16.38 | Ominous | Mudkips: already said that |
| 01:16.41 | Xuerian | i'm sure that means something perfectly innocent |
| 01:16.48 | Mudkips | lol |
| 01:16.49 | ckknight | gonna play Wii |
| 01:16.49 | Xuerian | I just can't.... figure out what |
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| 01:16.56 | Xuerian | that's not any better |
| 01:16.56 | ckknight | oh, hang* |
| 01:17.00 | ckknight | not hand |
| 01:17.02 | Xuerian | XD |
| 01:17.05 | Xuerian | ok, have fun :P |
| 01:17.05 | Sole | is that what they call it noawadays? Wii? |
| 01:17.18 | ckknight | ...penis |
| 01:17.20 | ckknight | alright, cya |
| 01:17.30 | Sole | lol |
| 01:17.31 | Mudkips | is the 8800 you're getting an AGP or PCI-E? |
| 01:17.39 | syeren | Could someone suggest to me a HUD addon where the bars actually 'move/fade'? |
| 01:17.48 | Sole | ooh ooh |
| 01:17.51 | syeren | Instead of just drops :p |
| 01:17.52 | Sole | HUDs are poo! |
| 01:17.55 | Mudkips | Agreed |
| 01:17.59 | Ominous | Mudkips: erm pci-e i presume, |
| 01:18.05 | Sole | at least for a rogue |
| 01:18.12 | Mudkips | does your board support pci-e? |
| 01:18.17 | Ominous | i use it atm |
| 01:18.21 | Ominous | have a 7300LE |
| 01:18.23 | Sole | the energy bar is completely useless...its just distracting |
| 01:18.32 | Xuerian | Mudkips: They don't MAKE more than 7950's in AGP |
| 01:18.43 | Xuerian | At least.. afaik <.< |
| 01:18.56 | Ominous | well the 8800 is pci-e |
| 01:19.03 | Sole | Ive got a 7950GT :) |
| 01:19.05 | Mudkips | I haven't been in the "scene" for a while so trying to be yeah... |
| 01:19.15 | Sole | and I likes it |
| 01:19.31 | Sole | funny thing is its got just as much and higher quality RAM than my old system :( |
| 01:19.43 | Xuerian | sole: I wants it :(. It'd be so horribly utterly bottlenecked in my 6-year-old computer, but I want it anyway |
| 01:19.49 | Mudkips | I dunno |
| 01:20.06 | Sole | Xuerian: Im happy :) <3 my shiny duo core |
| 01:20.08 | Ominous | Mudkips: is that a i dno if its work it? |
| 01:20.14 | Mudkips | maybe I'm just elitist but I don't use dell brand mobos to game with |
| 01:20.16 | Xuerian | sole: Curse you -_- |
| 01:20.21 | Xuerian | Mudkips: You're not eletist |
| 01:20.25 | Xuerian | or elitist. |
| 01:20.40 | Xuerian | I wouldn't use dell unless it was going to save my life. Which I doubt it would. |
| 01:20.45 | Sole | such a huge difference going from a 1.73GHz processor and 512mb DDR ram to 4.8GHz, 2GB DDR2 |
| 01:20.47 | Xuerian | But most people start with a dell, so eh.... |
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| 01:21.00 | Sole | I felt like I was reborn when I fired something up on this thing |
| 01:21.11 | Sole | dells are overpriced |
| 01:21.20 | Sole | at least over here in new zealand |
| 01:21.28 | Mudkips | hehe... I was about to disagree |
| 01:21.36 | Mudkips | yes maybe |
| 01:21.39 | tronyx | does anyone know how i can change AGunitframes to use a custom font rather than frizqt? |
| 01:21.42 | trh | worst thing about dell are the shipping costs |
| 01:21.46 | Xuerian | They're like flavored meth over here in usa |
| 01:22.18 | Ominous | what size psu should i get |
| 01:23.21 | Xuerian | A 500 or 600w would do fine, but it's not just the wattage that matters. You need to find someone who knows PSUs to tell you which to get... >.o |
| 01:23.37 | Hjalte | Buy a quality psu |
| 01:23.43 | KarlThePagan | are some pets always slower than others? |
| 01:23.50 | KarlThePagan | like cat, bear, ravager |
| 01:23.54 | Wobwork | yes |
| 01:23.59 | Wobwork | attackspeeds differ |
| 01:24.15 | Wobwork | I've gotten my ravager to .99 |
| 01:24.22 | Wobwork | my cat is just above 1 |
| 01:24.55 | KarlThePagan | oh no i mean movement |
| 01:25.27 | KarlThePagan | mine can't keep up with my aspect of cheetah |
| 01:25.34 | Wobwork | oh |
| 01:25.37 | KarlThePagan | ravager |
| 01:25.37 | Wobwork | no |
| 01:25.44 | Wobwork | they all have the same movement speed |
| 01:25.47 | Wobwork | unless you have the talent |
| 01:25.50 | KarlThePagan | yea that's what I remember |
| 01:25.52 | Wobwork | which moves them faster |
| 01:26.04 | Xuerian | Didn't use to >.> |
| 01:26.09 | Wobwork | or you could just hit 'dash' every so often =) |
| 01:26.09 | Xuerian | Back when things were fun :( |
| 01:26.18 | kergoth | hmm... cat or ravager? i'm torn |
| 01:26.25 | Wobwork | ravager is a great dps pet |
| 01:26.28 | Wobwork | but sucks as a tank |
| 01:26.30 | Xuerian | kergoth: Specially skinned cat |
| 01:26.48 | kergoth | that ghostly cat looks nifty, the one thats partially transparent all the time, was thinking about picking him up |
| 01:26.50 | Wobwork | if I had the patience to do another hunter, I'd get the darkshore shadowcat |
| 01:26.53 | KarlThePagan | has more armor than a cat tho ;) |
| 01:26.57 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:27.10 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:27.33 | KarlThePagan | Wobwork, so it's normal for pets to move slower than aspect of cheetah? |
| 01:27.47 | Jaxon | Pets will match your run speed. |
| 01:28.19 | KarlThePagan | i'm just debating wether to open a ticket or not |
| 01:28.28 | KarlThePagan | mine's deffinately not matching my run speed |
| 01:28.40 | Wobwork | hm |
| 01:28.46 | Wobwork | lrn2aotp =) |
| 01:29.11 | KarlThePagan | you're no help :P level 24 |
| 01:29.23 | KarlThePagan | O |
| 01:29.30 | KarlThePagan | I'm asking if this is normal or not :P |
| 01:29.43 | Jaxon | Dismiss, resummon the pet. Stable the pet, get another, try that one. |
| 01:30.08 | trh | KarlThePagan: if you're in combat, maybe |
| 01:30.17 | KarlThePagan | nope |
| 01:30.25 | trh | KarlThePagan: should have your speed then |
| 01:30.38 | trh | KarlThePagan: but maybe they borked it with pet desumonning on mounting |
| 01:30.49 | KarlThePagan | ok wow yea I dismissed and resummoned and it's faster now |
| 01:31.00 | KarlThePagan | thanks jax |
| 01:31.11 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: it's not totally strange that pets get lost |
| 01:31.20 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: although it should not be that much off |
| 01:31.30 | Trancer | if you run from ashenvale one side to the other and it gets lost, not that odd :-) |
| 01:31.36 | Jaxon | No problem. Back when pets had different pursuit speeds, the faster ones would bug out sometimes and need to be resummoned in order to get their speed back. |
| 01:31.37 | Wobwork | My pet couldn't find his own tail if it wasn't tacked on =( |
| 01:31.40 | Trancer | but if it's on not too long bits.. it's odd |
| 01:31.45 | Trancer | Wobwork: ;-) |
| 01:31.55 | trh | Jaxon: those were the times.. 200% wolves :( |
| 01:32.10 | Trancer | trh: that raptor from the barrens |
| 01:32.19 | trh | Trancer: <3 alterac wolves |
| 01:32.20 | Wobwork | I miss my Ashenvale bear |
| 01:32.28 | Wobwork | I got him right out of newbville |
| 01:32.31 | Jaxon | I still have my LBRS spider. |
| 01:32.32 | Trancer | he was so fast, caught up with any epic mount |
| 01:32.33 | Wobwork | and named him Yogi |
| 01:32.37 | trh | i dismissed my broken tooth |
| 01:32.38 | Trancer | Wobwork: hah |
| 01:32.41 | trh | stupid 2.0 normalization |
| 01:32.48 | trh | er.. abandoned.. not dismissed |
| 01:32.49 | Trancer | I still have my BT |
| 01:33.00 | Wobwork | er not Ashenvale, sorry, Darkshore |
| 01:33.04 | Trancer | but that's because my level 60 hunter is a bankalt wearing a wedding dress |
| 01:33.14 | Wobwork | I had BT |
| 01:33.16 | trh | Trancer: yea.. stupid hunter nerfs |
| 01:33.24 | Wobwork | but since I got him at 55, it was too much pain to level him up |
| 01:33.38 | Trancer | trh: yer, somewhat, plus I like my lock so much more, played it since release day :-) |
| 01:33.45 | tronyx | does anyone know how I can ask AG_UF to use a custom font rather than Frizqt? |
| 01:33.49 | Trancer | Wobwork: heh, yes |
| 01:33.56 | trh | Trancer: wish they'd get a big nerf sometime |
| 01:34.11 | Trancer | trh: we already got one last patch, it hurt us a lot |
| 01:34.14 | Trancer | cost me 150 dps |
| 01:34.26 | trh | Trancer: what was that? |
| 01:34.34 | Trancer | shadowpriest synergy nerf |
| 01:34.37 | trh | ah |
| 01:34.40 | Trancer | and a small coefficient fix on DoTs |
| 01:34.48 | Trancer | both are justified though |
| 01:34.55 | trh | well.. doesn't affect you that much in pvp though |
| 01:35.07 | Trancer | that's true, but next patch it will |
| 01:35.09 | Trancer | resillience vs dots |
| 01:35.10 | trh | but in pvp warriors + paladins need some adjustments |
| 01:35.23 | KarlThePagan | resil vs dots - 1% per 39.4 |
| 01:35.24 | trh | woot? resilience vs dots next patch? |
| 01:35.29 | Trancer | yes |
| 01:35.35 | trh | need thread? :) gief url |
| 01:35.46 | Trancer | lets find the blue |
| 01:35.59 | KarlThePagan | which is about how much resillience effects a mage or rogue with 2x crits and 25% crit rating |
| 01:36.29 | KarlThePagan | oh Jaxon it might be flightpath related :P |
| 01:36.41 | sylvanaar | god the wau thread is depressing |
| 01:36.49 | KarlThePagan | makes me want to gouge my eyes out |
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| 01:37.07 | Jaxon | KarlThePagan: well, I don't remember the last time I've taken a flight path. Epic mount + autorun. |
| 01:37.09 | Trancer | trh: hrmz, hard to find |
| 01:37.16 | Trancer | trh: eyonix posted on it though and confiormed it |
| 01:37.18 | trh | Trancer: w/e :) |
| 01:37.19 | KarlThePagan | yea same on my main jax ;) |
| 01:38.20 | Trancer | I wish they would just stop changing, every time I die a little inside |
| 01:38.21 | sbu | KarlThePagan: hm 1% what? |
| 01:38.26 | sylvanaar | i dont even want to release the next version of it ... |
| 01:38.29 | KarlThePagan | 1% dot damage mitigation |
| 01:38.31 | sbu | 1% chance to resist? 1% less damage? |
| 01:38.32 | sbu | ah |
| 01:38.34 | sbu | okay |
| 01:39.19 | sylvanaar | if it works like spell hit, thats nice |
| 01:39.22 | loonacy | Quick question... If one addon has "local MyVar" is it possible for another addon to get access to MyVar? |
| 01:39.59 | sylvanaar | not really |
| 01:40.35 | KarlThePagan | yea - I figure 1% less crit and 2% less crit damage means - 1% of the time you get 50% damage reduction ( nullified crit) and ~25% of the time you get 2% damage reduction (assuming ~26% crit) - so 0.01*.5 + 0.25*.02 = 0.01 |
| 01:40.53 | KarlThePagan | so 1% damage reduction is fair for the average player |
| 01:41.07 | Pkekyo | fast way to get gold in wow? :> |
| 01:41.18 | Xuerian | ... |
| 01:41.25 | KarlThePagan | Pkekyo, daily quests, finish all lv 68-70 quests at lv 70 |
| 01:42.03 | Pkekyo | any fast-er way? x) |
| 01:42.14 | Wobwork | buy gold |
| 01:42.15 | Xuerian | Farm. |
| 01:42.20 | Xuerian | Or that. >_> |
| 01:42.25 | loonacy | The reason I ask, I want to add something to DogTag's tags, but Tags is a local variable... Maybe if there were something like DogTag:AddTag(tagname, tagfunction) |
| 01:42.33 | KarlThePagan | questing @ 70 is much faster than farming |
| 01:42.39 | KarlThePagan | esp daily quests |
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| 01:43.20 | Pkekyo | Wobwork: can't afford it >.< |
| 01:43.20 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: any particular thing to farm? |
| 01:43.38 | loonacy | Heh... your reason for not buying gold is "can't afford it"? |
| 01:43.57 | Trancer | Pkekyo: what are your professions? |
| 01:44.15 | Pkekyo | Mining/BS |
| 01:44.28 | Pkekyo | been farming adamantite for a few days |
| 01:44.30 | Trancer | mining is okay cash, further farm primal fire/mana or alike |
| 01:44.33 | Pkekyo | not very profitable tbh |
| 01:44.50 | Jaxon | It is profitable in that it doesn't cost you anything but time. |
| 01:45.42 | Pkekyo | true, but 20g for 30-40min of mining (with my luck) isn't exactly what I consider profitable |
| 01:46.40 | Pkekyo | if you don't get a star of elune or living ruby you can forget about getting it sold... |
| 01:46.45 | KarlThePagan | yea daily quests come out ahead of that after some practice |
| 01:46.54 | Pkekyo | my server's economy sucks tbh |
| 01:47.08 | Pkekyo | which ones do you suggest? |
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| 01:47.22 | KarlThePagan | lv 70 with flying mount right? |
| 01:47.25 | Pkekyo | can't do Ogri'la or Netherwing yet... |
| 01:47.26 | Pkekyo | yes |
| 01:47.44 | Pkekyo | grinding for the epic flyer right now.. |
| 01:47.48 | KarlThePagan | get your ogrila quests! |
| 01:47.55 | KarlThePagan | no epic required there |
| 01:47.58 | KarlThePagan | just the group quests |
| 01:48.02 | Jaxon | ^^ and Skettis. |
| 01:48.13 | KarlThePagan | skettis isn't bad either yea |
| 01:48.47 | loonacy | Skyguard daily is nice... 11 gold for a few minutes of effort. |
| 01:48.47 | Jaxon | Only two dailies but mobs drop silver and cloth. |
| 01:48.47 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r43563 10Aloft/Options/CoreModules/Frame.lua: |
| 01:48.47 | CIA-22 | Aloft: |
| 01:48.47 | CIA-22 | - zhTW localization updated |
| 01:48.58 | KarlThePagan | yea do the 2 in skettis, get on a flightpath to BEM and do 4 more there |
| 01:49.10 | KarlThePagan | do the bombing quests naked |
| 01:49.15 | KarlThePagan | until you figure them out |
| 01:49.49 | KarlThePagan | after you get netherwing - do your gathering quests and the quests in the mine every day (when eligable) and booterand and unfriendly skies are also fairly easy |
| 01:50.01 | KarlThePagan | do all non-mine gathering quests in netherwing naked ;) |
| 01:50.23 | KarlThePagan | and borrow the last 500g you need - you'll have it in 2 days max |
| 01:50.31 | KarlThePagan | if you do all netherwing stuff |
| 01:50.42 | KarlThePagan | as long as you're neutral with them now |
| 01:50.55 | Pkekyo | I'm trying to get the ogri'la quests, but no guildies will help me do the first group quests, and noone is pugging them anymore |
| 01:51.03 | Pkekyo | I'm neutral right now...need epic flyer to continue |
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| 01:51.33 | KarlThePagan | wow get a new guild :( |
| 01:51.42 | KarlThePagan | you've directly asked people and they won't? |
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| 01:52.16 | Pkekyo | yeah...been trying to get the quests done for a week now...got some help to kill the gronn above shatt, but that's it... |
| 01:53.34 | KarlThePagan | i have a hard time when a guildie won't do tradeskill mutes to help me get raid geared... it's pretty upsetting when you know it indirectly bennefits them and yet they just want some quick cash instead |
| 01:53.37 | Pkekyo | I can't get rep for heroic instances either, as pugs are so shitty they don't pass the second boss of instances (20g repairs ofc), and guild won't help when they can't get "PUPELZ EPIXX ITAMS!!!!11" from it |
| 01:53.50 | KarlThePagan | ick |
| 01:54.01 | KarlThePagan | yea heroics are a dead end lately |
| 01:54.06 | KarlThePagan | esp since trials aren't required |
| 01:54.31 | Pkekyo | it's not heroics that's the problem...epics can drop there! (guildies will come in other words) |
| 01:54.42 | KarlThePagan | oh normal instances eh? |
| 01:54.53 | Pkekyo | but I'm not revered with lower city and thrallmar yet...hence: I'm screwed |
| 01:55.13 | KarlThePagan | thrallmar sucks to rep up with :( |
| 01:56.05 | Pkekyo | would've been rather easy if I'd only started leveling while everyone else did... |
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| 01:59.13 | syeren | So I'm guessing no one can suggest to me a HUD with a built in fader :P? |
| 01:59.24 | Pkekyo | ArcHUD? |
| 01:59.35 | syeren | Does it fade when you take damage and not just Drop Pkekyo :)? |
| 02:00.03 | Pkekyo | nah, thought you meant fade when out of combat... |
| 02:00.12 | RaydenUni | i need a mod that tells me how many times my attack has failed in one fight |
| 02:00.23 | RaydenUni | i swear that last fight i had less than 50% hit rate |
| 02:01.11 | Pkekyo | recap should count that, methinks... |
| 02:01.39 | KarlThePagan | assessment too |
| 02:01.52 | KarlThePagan | wait no |
| 02:01.55 | KarlThePagan | does it? |
| 02:02.17 | Pkekyo | I've finally managed to get an UI that's 100% ace and 100% functional xD |
| 02:02.32 | RaydenUni | recap is done |
| 02:02.38 | KarlThePagan | ah yes assessment does |
| 02:02.52 | RaydenUni | what do i use that's not ace... |
| 02:02.58 | KarlThePagan | hit, crit, blocked, dodged, missed, parried |
| 02:03.04 | RaydenUni | link? |
| 02:03.20 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r43564 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 02:03.20 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:03.20 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW: Spell |
| 02:04.06 | KarlThePagan | for assessment rayden? |
| 02:05.32 | RaydenUni | yes |
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| 02:06.18 | Pkekyo | ~whalecrit |
| 02:06.19 | purl | ACTION crits <who> with a mathematically challenged whale named Oscar for #NaN |
| 02:06.30 | Pkekyo | huh...interesting... |
| 02:06.54 | loonacy | Pkekyo: I'm shooting for 100% Ace, but there's quite a few non-Ace I haven't managed to get rid of... Auctioneer, ATSW, Mobinfo-2.. couple others that I can't live without. |
| 02:07.35 | Pkekyo | what's ATSW? |
| 02:08.03 | Wobwork | Mobinfo 3 is ace'd I believe? |
| 02:08.05 | loonacy | Advanced TradeSkill Window |
| 02:08.34 | loonacy | Wobwork: That's Mobhealth 3 |
| 02:08.41 | KarlThePagan | RaydenUni, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6576.0 |
| 02:09.29 | RaydenUni | how old is it? |
| 02:09.29 | Wobwork | ah |
| 02:09.52 | Wobwork | meh, Reverse Engineering for tradeskills =) |
| 02:09.58 | Wobwork | although you can't queue stuff up |
| 02:10.00 | RaydenUni | all mods need a wiki page |
| 02:10.03 | RaydenUni | so people can see what it is |
| 02:10.06 | Wobwork | yes |
| 02:10.18 | Wobwork | but since the Great Unwikification of '07, there are a few missing |
| 02:10.46 | Wobwork | hm, speaking of... I wonder if my reveng page is up |
| 02:11.35 | loonacy | I rather enjoy being able to do something like queue up 4 items, hit Reagents, and know exactly how many of what I need to make 4 of those items. |
| 02:11.56 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43565 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Paladin.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): |
| 02:11.56 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 02:11.56 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Judgement threat |
| 02:11.56 | CIA-22 | - Added a check to allow spellcast parsing while not in combat |
| 02:13.31 | Pkekyo | loonacy: well, I've finally made 100% ace, and I love it :> if I was to have such a complex and functional UI with so much eyecandy without using ace, it'd top 100MiB memory usage |
| 02:13.56 | KarlThePagan | mine did top 100mb |
| 02:14.00 | loonacy | I'm running 87.1MiB right now. |
| 02:14.03 | kergoth | anyone good at customizing Assessment? |
| 02:14.13 | loonacy | But what do I care, I've got 2 gigs... heh. |
| 02:14.22 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, I've started... but i'm still pretty new to it |
| 02:14.33 | Pkekyo | I run at approx 40 MiB in a raiding environment :> |
| 02:14.42 | KarlThePagan | I was barely able to get a percentage number displayed on the damage charts |
| 02:14.45 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43566 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 02:14.45 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:14.45 | CIA-22 | - Updated koKR |
| 02:14.50 | kergoth | was just wanting a window that only shows me and my pet rather htan the whole group.. i'm sure i can do it via the custom filter thingamabob |
| 02:14.56 | kergoth | KarlThePagan, heh, thats the first thing i did too :) |
| 02:15.00 | Pkekyo | 58fps :> |
| 02:15.06 | KarlThePagan | yea how do you cut off the extra digits? |
| 02:15.27 | Pkekyo | stable at 38.7MiBs now, actually... (in combat in instance) |
| 02:15.32 | kergoth | :format("%0.2f%%") or so probably |
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| 02:15.46 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43567 10beql/tooltip.lua: |
| 02:15.46 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 02:15.46 | CIA-22 | - Fixed an error in the tooltip code which caused the quest selection to jump to the last quest, if the quest log was already open then it jumped only virtualy leaving the reward frame there popping errors |
| 02:15.46 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up the tooltip code |
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| 02:16.50 | KarlThePagan | kk |
| 02:16.52 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43568 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 02:16.52 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:16.52 | CIA-22 | - updated koKR: Spell |
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| 02:21.32 | Pkekyo | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ajFycGg4Mz8&mode=related&search= = win! |
| 02:21.42 | loonacy | Well, at least all the important people are still here. |
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| 02:24.09 | Pkekyo | yes I am :> |
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| 02:26.05 | kergoth | man, assessment needs docs on its available tags, with examples |
| 02:26.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at this.. http://www.overheardintheoffice.com/archives/004781.html |
| 02:27.12 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43569 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 02:27.12 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:27.12 | CIA-22 | - Fixed off-hand damage range when specced for dual wield |
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| 02:29.25 | RogueShadow | kergoth: You like assessment too? |
| 02:30.46 | RogueShadow | I'd ask him to use the easy to use DogTags, but I think him and ckknight argue about that a bit. |
| 02:31.44 | kergoth | it wont be using dogtag. dogtag is more unit specific, assessment and aloft share tagcompiler |
| 02:32.02 | kergoth | i dont see a problem in his tag syntax, just in the lack of documentation on the tags |
| 02:32.10 | kergoth | its not hard to use when you know what to use :) |
| 02:32.11 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, they dont argue about that, dogtag vs tagcompiler are two tools for two problems :P |
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| 02:33.29 | RogueShadow | kk |
| 02:33.35 | RogueShadow | Yeah, Documentation would rock. |
| 02:33.37 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 02:34.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha.. "20-ish guy on cell: What do you mean, 'Bush will get re-elected in '08'? Didn't you go to fuckin' grade school and learn about the two term limit on the presidency? Okay, yeah, I'll be over for dinner tonight... Love ya, Mom! Bye!" |
| 02:34.12 | Wobwork | ~logs |
| 02:34.20 | purl | from memory, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 02:34.21 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 overheard in new york. |
| 02:35.09 | fate- | NightHawkAtWork: I've had stuff published on there! |
| 02:35.18 | NightHawkTheSane | fate-: stuff you |
| 02:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | fate-: stuff you've said, or stuff you've heard? ;) |
| 02:35.25 | fate- | *flex* |
| 02:35.30 | fate- | heard,sadly |
| 02:35.33 | fate- | I'm not THAT funny |
| 02:35.49 | kergoth | dangit, i need a tag that evaluates to the player's name, and one that evaluates to my pet's name (if any) |
| 02:35.54 | NightHawkTheSane | considering the general nature of the quotes, i'd be wary of anything I said being there ;) |
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| 04:50.08 | Xuerian | sole: Why are you using self as the addon object as well? |
| 04:50.17 | Sole | Xuerian: because Im cool |
| 04:50.24 | Xuerian | See |
| 04:50.25 | Sole | Xuerian: and self is quicker to type than Cockfight |
| 04:50.28 | Pkekyo | trh_ thanks...but please define 'a little bit into programming'? :> |
| 04:50.30 | Xuerian | This is where the communal mocking comes in handy |
| 04:50.37 | Sole | Xuerian: local self = Cockfight |
| 04:50.44 | Xuerian | three, two, one... |
| 04:50.45 | Xuerian | MOCK! |
| 04:50.52 | Sole | UR A FEGGIT |
| 04:50.58 | trh_ | Pkekyo: that you understood basic stuff - like what variables, loops, statements etc. are |
| 04:51.04 | Xuerian | UR A CHICKEN |
| 04:51.05 | Xuerian | er |
| 04:51.07 | Xuerian | NUGGET |
| 04:51.10 | Sole | NAH UR FASE |
| 04:51.30 | Sole | UR MUMS A CHICK HOHOHO |
| 04:51.40 | Pkekyo | well...I atleast have an understanding of it to a certain degree |
| 04:51.45 | Xuerian | NAH UH UR FASE IS A CHICKEN NUGGET BASTARD CHILD OF A MONKEY POO |
| 04:52.05 | trh_ | Pkekyo: feel free to look at the book earlier, but don't be discouraged if you don't understand too much of it :) |
| 04:52.23 | trh_ | Pkekyo: only the first few chapters are of interest to you :) |
| 04:52.28 | Xuerian | .. |
| 04:52.35 | Xuerian | and dam right my mum is a chick <.< |
| 04:52.36 | Pkekyo | WTS [Great Insult: Cockjuggling Thundercunt] and [Good Insult: Horsehumping Bitch] |
| 04:52.44 | Pkekyo | trh_: I get easily discouraged ^^ |
| 04:53.39 | Sole | Pkekyo: programming is like a hard-to-get woman |
| 04:53.57 | Sole | Pkekyo: often hard to get anywhere at all but once you do get somewhere you just fuck all the way to heaven |
| 04:54.10 | Pkekyo | if you said she was an easy score, I'd be better off :p |
| 04:54.13 | Xuerian | sole: have to made sure your dimensions are large enough to be bvisible? :P |
| 04:54.14 | Sole | YEAH? HOWS THAT FOR AN ANALOGY |
| 04:54.33 | Sole | Xuerian: yes they are |
| 04:54.34 | trh_ | Sole: oh.. nice... php is the 25cent whore, i guess? :P |
| 04:54.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: i disagree, geeks get the hang of programming pretty easily, not so much with women. |
| 04:54.47 | Pkekyo | WTB 25cent whore then |
| 04:54.55 | Sole | trh_: never bothered learning php :P |
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| 04:55.00 | WALoeIII | anyone know of an ace addon that will help me manage trinkets and combustion cooldowns? |
| 04:55.01 | Sole | i probably should |
| 04:55.01 | trh_ | Sole: never do :) |
| 04:55.05 | trh_ | Sole: NO! |
| 04:55.07 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: ok youre right |
| 04:55.09 | trh_ | Sole: don't! |
| 04:55.10 | Sole | whys? |
| 04:55.15 | trh_ | Sole: php sucks :) |
| 04:55.17 | Pkekyo | why not? (was gonna try) |
| 04:55.22 | Xuerian | Php sucks |
| 04:55.22 | Sole | ok |
| 04:55.23 | Xuerian | But it's nice |
| 04:55.29 | Pkekyo | wha? |
| 04:55.29 | Sole | Python..I still dont knows that |
| 04:55.38 | trh_ | if i'd have to chose the worst language ever, i'd chose php |
| 04:55.38 | Xuerian | I hate writing in it |
| 04:55.41 | Xuerian | But |
| 04:55.42 | NightHawkTheSane | people who say php sucks are just whiners who are used to the way their languages do things. |
| 04:55.42 | Xuerian | At the same time |
| 04:55.46 | Xuerian | It's not that bad |
| 04:56.09 | Pkekyo | what do you use php for anyways? |
| 04:56.13 | trh_ | NightHawkAtWork: people who say php sucks actually TRIED to do stuff in php and seen the "concept" of OO in php |
| 04:56.17 | Wobwork | .. |
| 04:56.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: most php work these days is typically web development. |
| 04:56.39 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 04:56.42 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: I never said it was perfect, but it's far from "sucks" |
| 04:56.44 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: additonally security is broken by design in php :P |
| 04:56.47 | Wobwork | I expect OO to work =) |
| 04:56.47 | Xuerian | trh_: I learned oo in php o_0 |
| 04:57.00 | Xuerian | that probably doesn't bode well for me.. |
| 04:57.03 | Pkekyo | that's what I thought... and I'm shooting for a career in web development soeh :> |
| 04:57.04 | trh_ | Xuerian: yikes... |
| 04:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: nah, your fine. |
| 04:58.06 | durcyn | "you're" :( |
| 04:58.12 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, my bad. |
| 04:58.42 | Sole | Xuerian: http://ace.pastey.net/70688 |
| 04:58.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i always fuck that up, and i'm a bit distracted between watching a movie, and melting into a puddle of goo. |
| 04:58.47 | Sole | Xuerian: find the problem you poofase |
| 04:58.51 | Xuerian | sole: I've been reading it |
| 04:58.55 | Xuerian | While watching tv |
| 04:58.58 | Sole | lol |
| 04:59.04 | Xuerian | and IMing |
| 04:59.07 | Xuerian | and arguing with you |
| 04:59.08 | Xuerian | .. |
| 04:59.10 | Pkekyo | what's with replacing "face" with "fase" nowadays? :> |
| 04:59.12 | Xuerian | And frankly it's loosing |
| 04:59.16 | Wobwork | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.18 | *** join/#wowace Nukah (n=darncrzy@ip68-96-92-252.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 04:59.23 | NightHawkTheSane | 90 degrees at 10pm at night, what the crap? |
| 04:59.29 | Nukah | Good aye mates |
| 04:59.48 | Wobwork | point |
| 04:59.49 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: you could give us some ° over here :( |
| 04:59.53 | Wobwork | Sole: Clear all points? |
| 05:00.00 | Sole | Wobwork: I tried it |
| 05:00.10 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: if i could, i totally would. where are ya? :P |
| 05:00.15 | Nukah | Anyone here bored and wanna help me out? It seems my post has been deleted |
| 05:00.27 | trh_ | NightHawkAtWork: only like 62degree at night here in south germany :( |
| 05:00.38 | NightHawkTheSane | I could handle 62. |
| 05:00.39 | Wobwork | Sole: what's posX and Y returning as? |
| 05:00.47 | Xuerian | 62 would be nice |
| 05:00.53 | trh_ | 62 is too cold |
| 05:00.56 | trh_ | it may be ok for the night |
| 05:01.07 | Xuerian | I could do 62 in shorts and a tshirt right now |
| 05:01.11 | trh_ | but like 68° at day is :( |
| 05:01.12 | Xuerian | it'd be nice |
| 05:01.24 | Pkekyo | it's like 15 degreees here >.< |
| 05:01.33 | trh_ | Xuerian: northpole? :( |
| 05:01.40 | Xuerian | trh_: Celcius? |
| 05:01.50 | trh_ | Xuerian: no, fahrenheit, converted it ;) |
| 05:01.57 | Sole | Wobwork: lemme check |
| 05:01.58 | Xuerian | Yeah, i could do 62. |
| 05:02.01 | NightHawkTheSane | 68 celsius would suck |
| 05:02.05 | trh_ | it's 16°C, or over day ~20°C |
| 05:02.07 | Wobwork | what's 62F? |
| 05:02.09 | Wobwork | in C? |
| 05:02.20 | trh_ | Wobin_: ~16 |
| 05:02.30 | Wobwork | oh that's alrightish |
| 05:02.36 | Wobwork | cold, but it's that temp here atm |
| 05:02.40 | Mikk | ~16c |
| 05:02.43 | trh_ | na.. it should be like 25°C over day |
| 05:02.44 | Mikk | ~16C |
| 05:02.46 | trh_ | that'd be perfect |
| 05:02.54 | Mikk | damnit purl, you should be smarter than that |
| 05:02.56 | Mikk | ~16C in F |
| 05:03.04 | trh_ | Mikk: just use google :) |
| 05:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, its like ~32 right now. >< |
| 05:03.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ~32C, that is |
| 05:03.14 | trh_ | Mikk: 16 celsius to fahrenheit :) |
| 05:03.21 | Mikk | yeah but google doesn't tell everyone in the channel :S |
| 05:03.24 | trh_ | hehe |
| 05:03.25 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: even easier "16c in f" :P |
| 05:03.37 | Sole | Wobwork: thanks Wobster |
| 05:03.44 | Pkekyo | ~whalecrit pkekyo |
| 05:03.44 | purl | ACTION crits pkekyo with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. pkekyo dies |
| 05:03.44 | Sole | Wobwork: I set posX and posY default to 500px |
| 05:03.49 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 05:03.53 | Sole | and I guess that was off the screen |
| 05:03.56 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: yeah.. 32 is quite hot.. but anything colder than 20°C in the summer is bad too |
| 05:04.04 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: true. |
| 05:04.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I just want to not be melting, really. |
| 05:04.27 | trh_ | and if it's to hot you can get coke, turn on the vent or something |
| 05:04.36 | Pkekyo | 20-25C = perfect |
| 05:04.38 | trh_ | but if it's too cold you only can turn on a heater |
| 05:04.42 | trh_ | and that sucks in the summer :) |
| 05:05.00 | Pkekyo | I did 46C in france once...horrible! |
| 05:05.07 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: i bet you got at least 2 in your computer :P |
| 05:05.24 | Pkekyo | fanless computer ftw! |
| 05:05.27 | Sole | wow |
| 05:05.28 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: I think close to 8, actually. But they're working on keeping my computer from melting ;) |
| 05:05.31 | Sole | my shits styly |
| 05:05.33 | Mikk | Big fricking radiators and triple pane windows -- yeah those we know how to do up here |
| 05:05.35 | Mikk | AC? Duh wha? |
| 05:05.40 | trh_ | NightHawkAtWork: aw.. then he could spare one for you ;) |
| 05:05.55 | Pkekyo | I never even heard of anyone up here having AC |
| 05:05.58 | trh_ | sweden is cold... really cold ;) |
| 05:06.08 | trh_ | but in south sweden summer can be nice and warm too |
| 05:06.12 | Mikk | Lies. -35C in january separates men from weenies |
| 05:06.19 | Pkekyo | as is norway....which is NOT the capital of sweden btw >.< |
| 05:06.34 | trh_ | Mikk: i wouldn't even look outside at those temperature ;) |
| 05:06.47 | Mikk | -35C also teaches you to breathe through your nose rather than through your mouth. |
| 05:06.58 | Pkekyo | <--- slept outside at approx -20C during wintertime keke :> |
| 05:07.06 | Mikk | Your teeth hurt too bad if they come in direct contact with -35C :S |
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| 05:07.17 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 05:07.20 | trh_ | Mikk: must be nice to spit ice ;) |
| 05:07.27 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt get out of bed at those temps |
| 05:07.44 | Pkekyo | falling asleep in the snow during winter = win! |
| 05:07.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: would suck to wake up with stuffed and clogged sinuses. |
| 05:07.48 | trh_ | Mikk: the coldest winter i could remember was like -20°C |
| 05:07.52 | trh_ | Mikk: friggin' cold |
| 05:08.09 | Mikk | well.. yeah.. your ice box prolly sits at -18 :P |
| 05:08.38 | trh_ | yep... |
| 05:08.39 | trh_ | just thinking of those temperatures gives me goosebumps :P |
| 05:08.40 | Mikk | Haha |
| 05:08.49 | Mikk | This reminds me of that old batman episode where he faces Mr. Freeze |
| 05:08.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I wonder if I could crawl inside my frezer |
| 05:09.12 | NightHawkTheSane | (Also, Freezer? I hardly know her!) |
| 05:09.20 | Wobwork | <arnie>A Frrreeeeze is coming</arnie> |
| 05:09.29 | Mikk | Where Mr. Freeze would attack batman with an insane 0 degrees fahrenheit beam |
| 05:09.32 | Wobwork | ~rimshot NightHawk |
| 05:09.37 | Mikk | (I'm talking about the 60s version here btw =)) |
| 05:09.39 | Pkekyo | <--- haven't been wearing nothing but bathrobe + bermudashorts + pilot shades + trucker cap for weeks now xD I officially have the most haggard gear ever! |
| 05:10.18 | Mikk | Back when I watched it, I did the math, and arrived at like -15C and went "wtf? at -15C I go out to fetch the newspaper without even putting anything on on top of my t-shirt unless it's windy" |
| 05:10.21 | Mikk | Kinda lol :P |
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| 05:10.25 | Wobwork | well at least you're wearing pants |
| 05:10.26 | Pkekyo | just thought it was my duty to inforrm everyone :> |
| 05:10.40 | trh_ | Mikk: yikes |
| 05:10.50 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:10.57 | Sole | creating Pet frames will be interesting |
| 05:10.57 | trh_ | Mikk: i wouldn't dare to go outside if not absolutely necessary |
| 05:10.58 | Wobwork | Mikk: You're mad =P |
| 05:11.00 | Sole | Interesting indeed |
| 05:11.06 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- wearing nothing. because you all wanted to know that. |
| 05:11.08 | Mikk | -15C is actually a lot less cold than around 0 |
| 05:11.08 | Pkekyo | running 'round in -15C snow without clothes sucks though :< |
| 05:11.18 | Wobwork | And you call yourself Sane =P |
| 05:11.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: it's not the cold, its the wind chill. :P |
| 05:11.29 | trh_ | Wobwork: L O L :) |
| 05:11.37 | Mikk | beause around 0 you still have humidity in the air, which clings to your skin, and then evaporates and freezes you to hell n back |
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| 05:11.42 | Mikk | at -15 all humidity is guaranteed to be gone |
| 05:11.56 | Sole | I took a piss in -30C snow in my underwear and thats about it |
| 05:11.58 | Sole | it was refreshing |
| 05:12.02 | Mikk | lawl |
| 05:12.03 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 05:12.03 | Wobwork | ... |
| 05:12.06 | Wobwork | Soggy underwear? |
| 05:12.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: In this heat? damn right i do. |
| 05:12.34 | Wobwork | Normally I'd not piss in my underwear at any temperature =P too uncomfortable afterwards =P |
| 05:12.41 | Mikk | hehehe |
| 05:12.48 | Pkekyo | been flying 'round hellfire peninsula for an hour now...haven't found a single Fel Iron Deposit yet >.< |
| 05:12.59 | Wobwork | They're all behind the couch |
| 05:13.00 | trh_ | Pkekyo: around dark portal are many |
| 05:13.01 | Wobwork | where you left it |
| 05:13.05 | Sole | WAIT WAIT |
| 05:13.17 | Pkekyo | trh_: no, blizz nerfed it |
| 05:13.19 | Sole | I didnt piss IN my underwear |
| 05:13.29 | Wobwork | Well.. you should be more precise in how you word things =P |
| 05:13.33 | Pkekyo | just as they nerfed adamantite at netherwing ledge |
| 05:13.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:12] <Pkekyo> been flying 'round hellfire peninsula for an hour now...haven't found a single Fel Iron Deposit yet >.< <--if you have been flying counterclockwise, fly clockwise. if you have been flying clockwise, fly counterclockwise. |
| 05:13.35 | Mikk | you were just in them when you were pissing? |
| 05:13.40 | CIA-22 | 03feu * r43579 10RaidStatus/ (4 files): |
| 05:13.40 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: |
| 05:13.40 | CIA-22 | - TOC update for localization files |
| 05:13.40 | CIA-22 | - Localization files updated |
| 05:13.40 | CIA-22 | - Make the options table work |
| 05:13.41 | CIA-22 | - Implemented AceDB for options profile |
| 05:13.42 | Wobwork | (3:11:58 PM) Sole: I took a piss in -30C snow in my underwear |
| 05:13.43 | CIA-22 | - Using Debug messages |
| 05:13.46 | sag_ich_nicht | someone with an epic mount is being faster than you |
| 05:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | turn around to trick him |
| 05:13.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 05:13.58 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 05:14.33 | Pkekyo | I'm trying to farm motes of fire to be able to afford an epic flyer so I can farm as efficiently as those chinese asshole huntards on epic flyers |
| 05:14.48 | trh_ | Pkekyo: never met a china farmer with epixx mount |
| 05:14.58 | Wobwork | yeah, they can't afford it =P |
| 05:15.05 | Sole | chinas wouldnt waste 6k gold on flying mounts |
| 05:15.10 | Sole | thats too much profit |
| 05:15.12 | trh_ | i got 2 epic flying mounts.. but i put the nether ray at bank |
| 05:15.17 | trh_ | i hated it ;) |
| 05:15.21 | Pkekyo | chinese PLAYERS, not botters |
| 05:15.24 | Sole | it looks weird as hell |
| 05:15.25 | Wobwork | You totally should be standing on the ray |
| 05:15.29 | Wobwork | like a surfboard |
| 05:15.31 | Pkekyo | there's a chinese guild on my server >.< |
| 05:15.33 | Mikk | lawl |
| 05:15.49 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r43580 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: add Parrot as a display option. Needs localization, but I don't care |
| 05:15.50 | trh_ | Wobin_: actually i think you should grab the tail and wave like a flag while flying ;) |
| 05:16.02 | trh_ | Wobin_: and maybe scream a little while it ;) |
| 05:16.24 | Wobwork | "Cowabunga!"? |
| 05:16.37 | Wobwork | "Geronimo!"? |
| 05:16.44 | trh_ | i thought of GRRRlrlrgrgrlgrlgrlrl! |
| 05:16.46 | Pkekyo | "Ni Hao!"? |
| 05:16.50 | Wobwork | That'll work |
| 05:16.51 | Mikk | Hao ma! |
| 05:16.56 | Wobwork | Hen Hao! |
| 05:17.01 | Wobwork | Ni ne? |
| 05:17.06 | trh_ | rang rang :P |
| 05:17.21 | Pkekyo | you'd be amazed how far you can get socially on this server with "Ni hao" |
| 05:17.26 | Wobwork | heh |
| 05:17.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring bananaphone! |
| 05:17.49 | Mikk | remind me to beg kaelten for ops |
| 05:17.58 | trh_ | http://www.mymobilewatch.com/watch_specification.php |
| 05:17.59 | Mikk | kicking banaphone people has to be therapeutic |
| 05:18.02 | Wobwork | Hey Mikk |
| 05:18.02 | trh_ | apropos phone :) |
| 05:18.33 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r43581 10PreferredItems/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 05:18.33 | CIA-22 | PreferredItems: |
| 05:18.33 | CIA-22 | - Fixed externals |
| 05:18.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: :D |
| 05:18.57 | Sole | damn I love my create frame function |
| 05:19.20 | Mikk | gimme the lowdown |
| 05:19.24 | Sole | and none of you can say otherwise because blank semi transparent rectangles have never looked as stylish since I made em |
| 05:19.34 | durcyn | MakeFrameMotherfucker()? |
| 05:19.43 | durcyn | oh, thought you meant the name. |
| 05:19.44 | Sole | ^yes |
| 05:20.03 | Sole | Mikk: its nothing amazing, I just like how simple yet so much better it is than my last incarnation |
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| 05:20.19 | Sole | Mikk: basically it creates only the required ammount of frames for the current arena |
| 05:20.24 | Pkekyo | AUTOMOBILE PROSTITUTE |
| 05:20.24 | Pkekyo | I HAS SUN IN PANTS MOUNTAIN |
| 05:20.28 | Mikk | thing is, i'm thinking of implementing some sort of simple default style window creation in WindowLib |
| 05:20.54 | Sole | Mikk: and if you just did a bunch of 3v3 and go into a 5v5 arena, then it creates 2 extra frames |
| 05:20.55 | Mikk | but it'd have to be useful enough for many enough to warrant the room it'll use in a shared lib |
| 05:21.05 | Sole | whats WindowLib for/ |
| 05:21.17 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WindowLib |
| 05:21.27 | Sole | see now |
| 05:21.30 | Sole | you couldve just told me |
| 05:21.31 | Mikk | whenever the site decides to stop lagging |
| 05:21.34 | Sole | and not saved yourself the effort |
| 05:21.35 | Wobwork | Mikk: yeah, it better be worth the overhead =P |
| 05:21.45 | Mikk | SO anyway.. what it does right now |
| 05:22.08 | Pkekyo | I regret vendoring all those motes of fire I got while leveling mining soooooooooooooooooo bad |
| 05:22.22 | Mikk | it handles saving and restoring of window positions in an INTELLIGENT manner (figure out which corner it's closest to so resizing your UI works properly) |
| 05:22.28 | Wobwork | PS Mikk, I hope you're going to add stickyframes to that |
| 05:22.34 | Mikk | it has drag handlers (optionally only while holding down alt) |
| 05:22.52 | Mikk | stickying is going in yeah |
| 05:23.01 | Mikk | and i do mean STICKY, not just "snap" |
| 05:23.06 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:23.13 | Wobwork | I had stickyframes when I wrote plowking =P |
| 05:23.16 | Wobwork | it was kinda fun |
| 05:23.20 | Wobwork | magnetic frames ftw |
| 05:23.24 | Mikk | aye totally |
| 05:23.57 | Wobwork | also tiling |
| 05:23.57 | Wobwork | if you can fit in intelligent tiling, that'd be fantastic |
| 05:23.57 | Mikk | i'd LOVE to be able to stick a column of windows to the right |
| 05:23.58 | Mikk | and if one window resizes, the column stays intact |
| 05:24.15 | Wobwork | what the rest of them shrink appropriately? |
| 05:24.16 | Mikk | or even if a frame hides |
| 05:24.24 | Mikk | move, not shrink |
| 05:24.33 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:24.35 | Sole | HMM |
| 05:24.36 | Sole | HMMMMM |
| 05:24.39 | Wobwork | sort of how the current bags work? |
| 05:24.40 | Sole | ^ means Im thinking |
| 05:24.45 | Wobwork | no really? |
| 05:24.48 | Pkekyo | daily quests = good gold? |
| 05:24.52 | Sole | yes |
| 05:24.53 | Mikk | yeah like how the bags work, precisely |
| 05:24.58 | Sole | dailies are king |
| 05:25.03 | Wobwork | Pkekyo: apparantly =) |
| 05:25.12 | Pkekyo | I need alot of gold fast :< |
| 05:25.15 | trh_ | the ogri'la quests rock for gold :) |
| 05:25.25 | Wobwork | I'm tempted to drop alchemy |
| 05:25.27 | Pkekyo | too bad I can't get ogri'la rep |
| 05:25.34 | Wobwork | and just go skinning/herb |
| 05:25.37 | Wobwork | or herb/mining |
| 05:25.41 | trh_ | Pkekyo: you just gotta do the 5man prequests |
| 05:25.46 | Mikk | yeah you don't really need alch |
| 05:25.47 | Mikk | herb is what you want |
| 05:25.56 | Pkekyo | trh_: exactly! |
| 05:25.59 | Sole | mining is more money |
| 05:26.05 | Mikk | i don't know an alch that'll say no to cooking a couple stacks of stuff for guildies |
| 05:26.15 | Sole | Mikk: so will it support clusters, even though I dont really need them :P |
| 05:26.22 | Pkekyo | noone is pugging them anymore, and my guildies won't help 'cause they can't get "PURPELZ EPIXX ITAMS!!!!!!!!!!!111" from it |
| 05:26.23 | Mikk | define clusters |
| 05:26.31 | trh_ | Pkekyo: change guild :) |
| 05:26.44 | Wobwork | hm, after the 5man prereqs, it's all solo stuff? |
| 05:26.45 | Pkekyo | noone will take me :< |
| 05:26.48 | Wobwork | for ogrila? |
| 05:26.52 | Pkekyo | wobwork: mostly |
| 05:26.54 | Wobwork | cool |
| 05:26.57 | trh_ | Wobwork: the dailys, yes |
| 05:27.02 | Sole | Mikk: a group of frames which move together when one is moved. like party frames in pitbull, etc |
| 05:27.04 | Wobwork | I'll have to look into those |
| 05:27.14 | Mikk | Sole: yeah that's the plan |
| 05:27.29 | Mikk | it's going to be a bit hairy with LoD addons |
| 05:27.33 | trh_ | Wobwork: it's 45 gold every day :) |
| 05:27.36 | Mikk | but i think i know how to manage it |
| 05:27.52 | trh_ | Wobwork: just the 4 ogri'la quest (although you get only 3 at first) |
| 05:28.23 | Pkekyo | only 66 days of ogri'la quests remaining to get my epic flyer! |
| 05:28.53 | trh_ | Pkekyo: do the 2 skettis quests additionally |
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| 05:28.56 | trh_ | Pkekyo: 22g extra |
| 05:28.57 | Sole | Mikk: I dont really understand how I might implement it into Cockfight |
| 05:29.17 | trh_ | Pkekyo: =67 gold a day + a few greens and stuff |
| 05:29.29 | trh_ | Pkekyo: gives you a easy 75gold a day |
| 05:29.53 | Mikk | Sole: huh? "it"? |
| 05:29.59 | Mikk | you mean windowlib? or stickying? |
| 05:30.04 | Pkekyo | ok, only 54 days remaining then :> |
| 05:30.06 | Sole | windowlib |
| 05:30.12 | Mikk | oh ok |
| 05:30.19 | trh_ | Pkekyo: add some primal farming and you're done in 2 weeks :) |
| 05:30.20 | Mikk | what are you getting stuck at? |
| 05:30.30 | Sole | well I just dont see the point o_O |
| 05:30.46 | Pkekyo | any good spots for farming primal fire? |
| 05:30.51 | Mikk | how intelligent is your window position saver? |
| 05:31.10 | Sole | not very |
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| 05:31.17 | trh_ | Pkekyo: blade edge or shadowmoon valley, or at very strange times elemental plateau in nagrand |
| 05:31.21 | Mikk | what happens if you drag one of your windows to the far right of the UI, and change the UI scale? |
| 05:31.44 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.46 | Sole | is what happens |
| 05:31.54 | Pkekyo | I'm up farming from 3-5 am every night, but there's always some jackoff with an epic flyer around |
| 05:31.58 | Primer | I'm looking for a decent damage meter program that's 1) stable, 2) accurate, and 3) simple. Any recommendations? DamageMeters isn't 2, and swstats isn't 2 or 3 |
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| 05:32.15 | Mikk | violation |
| 05:32.21 | Sole | Primer: Violation, Assessment |
| 05:32.26 | Mikk | assessment fails on 3 |
| 05:32.28 | Primer | I was just in a Kara raid, and 4 different people had 4 different readings |
| 05:32.29 | Sole | and Recount |
| 05:32.32 | Mikk | as does recount |
| 05:32.44 | Pkekyo | Primer: Recap |
| 05:32.49 | Primer | well, last time I saw recount, it wasn't 1 |
| 05:32.51 | Mikk | and recap :> |
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| 05:32.52 | Primer | stable |
| 05:33.05 | Pkekyo | Recamp = stable keke :> |
| 05:33.17 | Primer | so...Violation and recap |
| 05:33.18 | Sole | Mikk: so the position saver makes WindowLib the secks? |
| 05:33.23 | Primer | thanks |
| 05:33.25 | Mikk | so far that's about it yeah |
| 05:33.37 | Mikk | but it'll be more secks when stickying goes in |
| 05:33.43 | Mikk | since you'll be able to sticky between addosn |
| 05:33.45 | Pkekyo | recap is so simple that even I can use it....very stable and accurate too :> |
| 05:33.48 | Sole | stickying? |
| 05:33.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, more secks makes things sticky |
| 05:33.52 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r43582 10EQCompare/EQCompare.toc: EQCompare: - TOC to 20100 |
| 05:33.53 | Sole | in what sense |
| 05:33.58 | Mikk | clustering |
| 05:34.01 | Sole | oh |
| 05:34.06 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. sticky cluster sex |
| 05:34.10 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 05:34.17 | durcyn | grrrrrrrrr i wish i could quit you, monstrous kaliri. |
| 05:34.18 | Sole | youre sane... |
| 05:34.41 | Saint-N | hrm |
| 05:34.55 | Pkekyo | fact or fiction: swedes are more kinky and perverted than people of other nationalities? <--- fact in my guild atleast...ALOT of swedes :< |
| 05:35.02 | Saint-N | anyone know a simple way to backup exchange mailboxes to move them to an entirely different server and restore them? |
| 05:35.19 | trh_ | danes and swedes drink like holes :P |
| 05:35.21 | Saint-N | server backup that is, not just from outlook |
| 05:35.29 | Sole | fact: Germans like anal a lot |
| 05:35.36 | trh_ | (if not in danmark / sweden, because it's so expensive there :) |
| 05:35.53 | Pkekyo | trh_: believe me, norway is even more expensive >.< |
| 05:36.00 | Trisorion | Do any of you guys know how I should go about keybinding all my spell (I know HOW to do it, im wondering what works well- like th DO's and DONT's) |
| 05:36.08 | trh_ | Pkekyo: hehe.. i don't doubt it ;) |
| 05:36.20 | Pkekyo | using api command worked good for me, trisorion :> |
| 05:36.47 | Trisorion | Im an idiot |
| 05:36.50 | Trisorion | make that simpler |
| 05:36.51 | Sole | Trisorion: as long as you can reach the buttons quickly without moving your whole hand then youre ok |
| 05:37.14 | Mikk | also, shift+stuff is nice |
| 05:37.26 | Trisorion | should i get a nostromo n52 or just use wasdqe |
| 05:37.49 | trh_ | Trisorion: sometimes it does make sense to use sdfe |
| 05:38.06 | trh_ | Trisorion: so you get qwartgvcxy nearby |
| 05:38.14 | Mikk | yeah i keep telling myself that i should get used to sdfe |
| 05:38.18 | Sole | Mikk: so will I be able to say have 5 frames open, in a cluster together. Say they represent my arena opponents. One of them dies. I have it set to hide the frame when a guy dies. Will WindowLib be able to fold/move the other frames together to make it as if that hidden frame never existed? |
| 05:38.32 | Mikk | Sole: yes, that's the idea |
| 05:38.33 | trh_ | Mikk: me too, but i can't ;) |
| 05:38.33 | Pkekyo | Trisorion: sorry, I misunderstood your question :> |
| 05:38.41 | Sole | Mikk: then get to it |
| 05:38.54 | Mikk | Sole: plus you'd be able to stick violation's "damage done" frame on top of em :P |
| 05:39.06 | Sole | huh |
| 05:39.12 | Sole | the whole violation frame? |
| 05:39.18 | Mikk | clustering would work between addons |
| 05:39.23 | Trisorion | So if I have more spell that qwertasdfgzxcv can i do a bind like q-w |
| 05:39.31 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43583 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua AssessmentTag.lua): |
| 05:39.31 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 05:39.31 | CIA-22 | - GetField, SumField and MaxField tags now list combatTime as dependent data. While this isn't accurate, it prevents unnecessary updates out of combat. Whether it breaks any existing display sets is yet to be seen. |
| 05:39.46 | Pkekyo | holy shit, it's morning allready O.o |
| 05:39.54 | Mikk | actually, one thing i'd like for lots of windows to be able to do |
| 05:39.58 | Mikk | is to be able to "minimize" |
| 05:40.10 | durcyn | or at least shade, mikk |
| 05:40.11 | Sole | Trisorion: remember to keep your WASD keys bound to move forward/back and strafe left/right |
| 05:40.12 | Mikk | click the header and *bam* their content area is gone, only the header remains |
| 05:40.23 | Sole | do it mikk |
| 05:40.24 | Trisorion | Sole: Why? |
| 05:40.24 | Sole | DO IT |
| 05:40.31 | Mikk | haha |
| 05:40.31 | Sole | Trisorion: how the fuck are you gonna move then? |
| 05:40.43 | Trisorion | Mouse- isent that the point of keybinding? |
| 05:40.51 | Mikk | eek |
| 05:40.51 | durcyn | ... |
| 05:40.58 | Mikk | no, you want to be able to move with the keyboard too |
| 05:41.01 | Sole | have you pvped before? |
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| 05:41.20 | Trisorion | Yeah but as a Mage you cant spin CoC with a keyboard no matter what you do |
| 05:41.31 | Pkekyo | mouse is SHIT for movement |
| 05:41.32 | NightHawkTheSane | you want both mouse and keyboard for movement. |
| 05:41.34 | Sole | yeah but as a mage you do a shit load of kiting |
| 05:41.40 | Sole | and you need keyboard for that |
| 05:41.41 | Mikk | you can't run sideways with mouse |
| 05:41.48 | Mikk | unless ofc you have gobs of mousebuttons |
| 05:41.49 | NightHawkTheSane | you cant run b ackwards with a mouse |
| 05:41.50 | Pkekyo | I hardly ever use my mouse at all in pvp... |
| 05:42.04 | Sole | Pkekyo: what class are you? |
| 05:42.05 | trh_ | do i hear "keyboard turner" |
| 05:42.07 | Mikk | extra mousebuttons for movement works ofc |
| 05:42.16 | Pkekyo | Sole: warrior, mage, shaman and rogue |
| 05:42.19 | Sole | Mikk: thatd be way unnatural |
| 05:42.41 | Mikk | Sole: yeah, about as bad as sdfe =) |
| 05:43.04 | Sole | Pkekyo: all those classes are played optimally when you use a mouse especially rogue WATAF |
| 05:43.08 | Sole | Mikk: tell me about it |
| 05:43.16 | Sole | Mikk: ESDF is just weird |
| 05:43.22 | Pkekyo | I hardly use a mouse, and perform good :> |
| 05:43.22 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43584 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: formatting fix |
| 05:43.30 | Mikk | problem is, esdf would rock really really hard if i ever got used to it |
| 05:43.35 | Mikk | all those extra keys on your pinky finger |
| 05:44.05 | Pkekyo | I'd lose out on about 15 abilities as well if I used my right hand on the mouse >.< |
| 05:44.07 | Sole | Pkekyo: Id stab you in the fase you couldnt do anything about it you keyboard turning queer |
| 05:44.29 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 05:44.29 | Sole | I find I can use all my rogue's abilities with my left hand |
| 05:44.46 | trh_ | a rogue needs more than 2 buttons? :P |
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| 05:44.50 | Sole | just gotta utilise shift and alt |
| 05:44.51 | Xuerian | esdf rocks |
| 05:44.51 | Pkekyo | no |
| 05:44.55 | Xuerian | Tribes2 taught me that |
| 05:45.04 | Sole | I use 26 buttons on my rogue yeye |
| 05:45.13 | Pkekyo | tribes 2? did that game ever launch? O.o |
| 05:45.18 | Xuerian | .... |
| 05:45.24 | Xuerian | It's tribes vengeance you're thinking of |
| 05:45.31 | Pkekyo | no, tribes 2 |
| 05:45.34 | Xuerian | oh |
| 05:45.34 | Xuerian | well |
| 05:45.35 | Pkekyo | I wated for it for ages |
| 05:45.36 | Xuerian | yes it did |
| 05:45.38 | Xuerian | And it owned face o_0 |
| 05:45.41 | Pkekyo | but never heard of it ever launching |
| 05:45.45 | Pkekyo | so I never played it :< |
| 05:45.45 | Xuerian | But it did o.o |
| 05:45.49 | Xuerian | Damn T.T |
| 05:45.56 | Xuerian | You missed some of the best fps fun ever :( |
| 05:46.28 | Pkekyo | oh, well...I was probably nolifing with CS anyways :> |
| 05:46.36 | Xuerian | CS was ok =\ |
| 05:46.39 | Xerophyte_ | I remember trying to learn to use ESDF around when Jedi Knight was released. I failed. :p |
| 05:46.44 | Xuerian | But it wasn't anything compared to Meltdown2 |
| 05:46.46 | Pkekyo | CS = best LAN game *EVER* |
| 05:46.59 | Mikk | UT the original |
| 05:47.01 | Pkekyo | never even heard of meltdown 1 |
| 05:47.10 | Xuerian | Meltdown1 was in Tribes1 |
| 05:47.11 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 05:47.14 | Xuerian | I think |
| 05:47.24 | Pkekyo | kek |
| 05:49.17 | Xuerian | included base building, vehicle mods, turrets, Battle Angel/Magnetic Ion/Blastech armors in addition to the normal heavy (juggernaut) medium (engineer) and light.... Plus the Mitzi blaster, a multi-mode weapon with normal, high power, kinetic booster, low power/highspeed, and annihilator modes, along with grapple beam/engineer tools/Vehicle outfitter suit tools... |
| 05:49.41 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 05:49.45 | Pkekyo | all I can say to that is: PEWPEW |
| 05:49.51 | Xuerian | DAMN DIGGITY |
| 05:50.18 | Pkekyo | well, I can also say: 'holy jumping fucking jesus' and 'jesus titty fucking christ PEWPEW' |
| 05:50.28 | Xuerian | Those work too. |
| 05:50.51 | Mikk | mary sweet mother of jesus and the wee donkey |
| 05:51.05 | Pkekyo | anyone know the Skettis quest World of Shadows? |
| 05:51.41 | Xuerian | Mikk: XD |
| 05:51.54 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: I miss the extended range shocklance :( |
| 05:54.23 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 05:56.22 | durcyn | the last starsiege game i played was Starsiege 2, way back when. I remember laughing hystiercally at one of the escort missions on the moon... you were supposed to get this engineer to an outpost, and the mission text and voiceover actually said "He's a CNE" |
| 05:56.22 | Pkekyo | CNE? |
| 05:56.22 | durcyn | because evil robot AIs run Novell. |
| 05:56.22 | Pkekyo | layman's terms please? |
| 05:56.22 | durcyn | Certified Netware Engineer |
| 05:56.22 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 05:56.22 | Pkekyo | netware? |
| 05:56.22 | durcyn | that'd be Novell's network operating system, yes |
| 05:56.54 | Pkekyo | <--- confused |
| 05:57.38 | durcyn | nevermind. |
| 05:58.20 | Xuerian | ~comfort durcyn |
| 05:58.48 | purl | There, there, durcyn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:58.48 | Pkekyo | how old is this game you're refering to? :> |
| 05:58.48 | durcyn | Starsiege 2? must've been 10 years ago |
| 05:59.22 | Pkekyo | well, I only started playin PC when cs 1.0 launched x) |
| 05:59.51 | durcyn | ah, had the name wrong. Earthsiege 2, after which they made Starsiege, then tribes |
| 05:59.58 | Xuerian | I started way back with Outpost. |
| 06:00.33 | Pkekyo | but tbh... Donkey Kong > all |
| 06:00.37 | RogueShadow | I am a rogue.. I have all my hotkeys around my wasd keys. I use shift and alt. and ctrl |
| 06:00.41 | Xuerian | Never did play any of the *Siege games though. Was waiting for the new Starsiege that's been in the works privately for a couple years =\ |
| 06:00.44 | RogueShadow | I can't imagine life without the mouse |
| 06:00.49 | durcyn | Donkey Kong doesn't have DFA. |
| 06:01.09 | Xuerian | Yep |
| 06:01.11 | Xuerian | Need DFA. |
| 06:01.32 | durcyn | though to be fair that was a mechwarrior invention |
| 06:01.33 | Xuerian | Be it mario, Deegan's cat, or A mech foot to the cockpit... |
| 06:01.49 | Xuerian | Mechwarrior ftw ^_^ |
| 06:02.20 | durcyn | man, that was fun. load up a 65 ton mech with ER PPCs and just run around one-shotting people |
| 06:02.30 | Xuerian | MW3? :P |
| 06:02.33 | durcyn | or 17 small pulse lasers |
| 06:02.35 | durcyn | 2. |
| 06:02.38 | Xuerian | 2. |
| 06:02.39 | Xuerian | Dang. |
| 06:03.01 | Xuerian | Played a little 3 and grew up on 4 :p |
| 06:03.03 | durcyn | zero heat sinks. if you blow your load and miss, you're dead. |
| 06:03.08 | Xuerian | XD |
| 06:04.11 | durcyn | can't remember the name of the mech for the life of me.. something cat |
| 06:04.20 | Xuerian | Shadowcat |
| 06:04.27 | Xuerian | scat :P |
| 06:05.14 | durcyn | doesn't sound right, guess i'll have to dust off the game discs |
| 06:05.20 | Xuerian | No? >.> |
| 06:05.21 | Xuerian | hm |
| 06:05.55 | Xuerian | Nou, Scat is 45t.. |
| 06:06.31 | durcyn | wrong animal and weight. mad dog. |
| 06:06.34 | durcyn | 50t |
| 06:06.39 | Xuerian | Yeah Mad Cat |
| 06:06.46 | Xuerian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MechWarrior_2:_31st_Century_Combat#Mechs_featured |
| 06:06.55 | durcyn | not in mw2.. maybe ghost wolf |
| 06:07.16 | Xuerian | Oh. |
| 06:07.20 | Xuerian | Gosh darn it |
| 06:07.21 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 06:07.29 | Xuerian | I hate name conflicts |
| 06:07.47 | Xuerian | Since when could you load out the vulture with that many lasers? |
| 06:08.11 | durcyn | you're asking me about something i did a decade ago, i'm amazed i remember this much |
| 06:09.01 | durcyn | not to mention making me feel old |
| 06:09.35 | Sole | Mikk: will it be hard to switch to WindowLib after you put all the funky stuff in? |
| 06:10.48 | Xuerian | durcyn: Sorry but wow that looks old >_> |
| 06:11.29 | durcyn | yeah. that's back in the "shit, what interrupt did i put my soundblaster on again?" days |
| 06:12.03 | Xuerian | :P |
| 06:12.10 | Xerophyte_ | Didn't they release a massive (okay, for the time) patch for MW2 when the Vodoo 1 was released? |
| 06:12.40 | durcyn | there was an expansion, no idea about the patches |
| 06:12.43 | Xerophyte_ | Or was that MW2:Mercs? |
| 06:13.02 | durcyn | yeah, mercs was unplayable without 3 or 4 patch revs past retail, iirc |
| 06:14.06 | durcyn | for whatever the hell it matters now, which is probably not at all |
| 06:14.17 | Xerophyte_ | I recall spending the better part of a day and a lot of phone bill downloading 50 MBs or so of textures on a 28.8 kbit modem, whenever that now was... |
| 06:14.46 | Xuerian | http://www.mektek.net/joomla/index.php |
| 06:14.49 | durcyn | mechwarrior went to total shit after microsoft picked up the franchise anyway |
| 06:15.18 | Xuerian | They removed a lot of the fun stuff in four, I'll admit, but it was still a fun game =\ |
| 06:15.20 | durcyn | what a turd 4 was. couldn't even shoot off one leg of a mech, seriously wtf? |
| 06:15.23 | Xuerian | till MechAssault that is |
| 06:15.34 | Xuerian | durcyn: Yeah, you could leg someone |
| 06:15.37 | durcyn | watching the AI hop around on one foot was whole minutes of amusement! |
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| 06:19.47 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r43585 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: fixed "attempt to call global 'GetExpectedBuff' (a nil value)" on weapon buff. |
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| 06:26.38 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43586 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: check focus |
| 06:34.38 | Funkeh` | later folks |
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| 06:39.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43587 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to the library upgrade problems. \o/ |
| 06:41.25 | Pkekyo | lmao...guy that used to be in my guld (kicked for inactivity) just came back to wow today....he've been in jail for two months O.o |
| 06:41.32 | Pkekyo | guild* |
| 06:42.55 | kbh | lol @ jail |
| 06:46.22 | todd | anyone know of any profile sites similar to ctprofiles? |
| 06:49.14 | Saint-N | i wanna be sedated |
| 06:49.23 | Saint-N | bam bamba bambam |
| 06:49.27 | Saint-N | i wanna be sedated |
| 06:49.41 | Saint-N | wowhead has profiles i think |
| 06:51.55 | todd | I don't think so |
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| 06:52.04 | todd | I know it's in their to-do list though |
| 06:52.16 | kergoth | man, raiding with my rogue who i havent played at all in like 3 or 4 months |
| 06:52.24 | kergoth | hitting the wrong buttons and shit |
| 06:56.45 | Jaxon | todd: worldofwar.net has a profile site. |
| 06:58.49 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:07.45 | Antiarc | What would cause a metatable to get unset? |
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| 07:08.42 | cncfanatics | Hello all |
| 07:09.16 | Mikk | Sole: No, I'm aiming for an interface that'll allow you to basically take an already-existing window and just do windowlib:EnableSomeFeature(frame) |
| 07:09.23 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43588 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Pathaleon.lua: LittleWigs: Pathaleon - add deDE translation by Farook |
| 07:09.27 | Mikk | (OR create shit via the lib.. but that's not going to be a requirement) |
| 07:10.37 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 07:11.58 | [Ammo] | hmmsexeh |
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| 07:15.28 | Biceps | Hey everyone, got a little problem. I have a slashcommand/option with type text, and usage <arg1> <arg2> where arg2 is supposed to be everything after the first space. |
| 07:15.35 | Biceps | How would I go about doing this? |
| 07:17.23 | Jaxon | You mean the second space? |
| 07:18.12 | Biceps | after the space separating arg1 from arg2 :) |
| 07:18.15 | Biceps | to make it overly clear |
| 07:19.00 | Biceps | if I use "/kbl add arg1 arg2 arg3", arg2 will be arg2, not "arg2 arg3" |
| 07:19.10 | sylvanaar | ok, i think i got this ad thing worked out partially |
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| 07:21.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobwork] by ChanServ |
| 07:21.23 | Wobwork | any forum admins on? |
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| 07:24.15 | pb_ee1 | Heya ;) |
| 07:28.23 | Biceps | sometimes I wish you could write addons in Ruby :p |
| 07:28.33 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 07:28.57 | Wobwork | Biceps: all you'd need is a Ruby2Lua interpreter |
| 07:28.59 | Wobwork | Go for it! |
| 07:29.04 | Biceps | hehe |
| 07:29.37 | Biceps | Got a problem atm that I'd be able to solve in Ruby, but have no idea how to in Lua |
| 07:29.46 | pb_ee1 | Uploading: Ruby.toc, parsing Ruby and doing stuff in WoW |
| 07:29.46 | Wobwork | What's the problem? |
| 07:29.57 | Biceps | I have a slashcommand that accepts 2 arguments |
| 07:30.15 | Biceps | where the second argument should be a catch-all sort of argument |
| 07:30.23 | Mikk | that's easy enough |
| 07:30.25 | Biceps | so if I write "arg1 arg2 arg3" |
| 07:30.31 | Biceps | arg2 should contain "arg2 arg3" |
| 07:30.40 | Wobwork | You'd need (arg1, ...) |
| 07:30.58 | Wobwork | or just pass in the entire string as a single argument |
| 07:31.04 | Mikk | arg1,arg2 = string.match(commandline, "^([^ ]+) *(.*)") |
| 07:31.07 | Wobwork | and then split it by spaces and deal with it as you go |
| 07:31.16 | Mikk | er wait |
| 07:31.20 | Mikk | _,_,arg1,arg2 = string.match(commandline, "^([^ ]+) *(.*)") |
| 07:31.25 | pb_ee1 | Wobwork: ... means that all the things after arg1 will be contained in an "arg2) variable? |
| 07:31.33 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 07:31.37 | Wobwork | well |
| 07:31.38 | Wobwork | no |
| 07:31.42 | pb_ee1 | humm |
| 07:31.50 | pb_ee1 | I mean, how do you get the "..." string ;) |
| 07:31.50 | Wobwork | it'll be contained in a '...' variable |
| 07:31.56 | Mikk | pb_ee1: _,_,arg1,arg2 = string.match(commandline, "^([^ ]+) *(.*)") |
| 07:31.57 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 07:32.09 | pb_ee1 | Ok I see :P |
| 07:32.15 | Wobwork | that's the easier way |
| 07:32.23 | Biceps | I'll try that, thanks Mikk :) |
| 07:32.44 | pb_ee1 | Ho, and btw, you've got some nice arms, Biceps. |
| 07:33.19 | Biceps | long story short; I don't |
| 07:33.25 | Wobwork | wishful thinking? |
| 07:33.26 | Biceps | thus the name :d |
| 07:33.33 | Wobwork | much like my name at the moment =P |
| 07:33.37 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 07:33.43 | Biceps | was an ironic nickname in school |
| 07:33.51 | Biceps | somehow, it stuck with me |
| 07:34.33 | pb_ee1 | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Arm_flex_supinate.jpg |
| 07:34.37 | Wobwork | rightio |
| 07:35.55 | Biceps | hmm |
| 07:36.01 | Biceps | _,_,arg1,arg2 = string.match(commandline, "^([^ ]+) *(.*)") is giving me errors. |
| 07:36.08 | Biceps | says that arg2 isnt set |
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| 07:36.24 | Biceps | or rather, that its a nil value |
| 07:36.52 | Wobwork | drop the middle * |
| 07:36.57 | Wobwork | er the first one |
| 07:37.23 | Biceps | I hate regexes. :p |
| 07:37.35 | pb_ee1 | Regex are cool :P (but slow) |
| 07:37.40 | Wobwork | I'd say Regex are the devil |
| 07:37.46 | Wobwork | but that's reserved for secureframes |
| 07:37.54 | Wobwork | Cause they really are the devil |
| 07:37.58 | Biceps | still giving me the nil error |
| 07:38.01 | Biceps | :/ |
| 07:38.04 | Wobwork | what are you passing in? |
| 07:38.13 | Biceps | "arg1 arg2 arg3 arg4" |
| 07:38.52 | Wobwork | > _,_,arg1,arg2 = string.match("arg1 arg2 aerg3", "^([^ ]+) (.*)") |
| 07:39.03 | Wobwork | =( come back luabot |
| 07:39.04 | pb_ee1 | aerg |
| 07:39.06 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 07:39.29 | Wobwork | damnit |
| 07:39.40 | Wobwork | sudo apt-get lua isn't going to work on this system =( |
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| 07:39.52 | Wobwork | s/get/get install/ |
| 07:40.02 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 07:40.11 | pb_ee1 | Biceps: try string.gmatch instead of string.match |
| 07:40.15 | Biceps | k |
| 07:40.32 | Biceps | same error |
| 07:40.35 | Biceps | arg2 is nil |
| 07:41.09 | pb_ee1 | hum ok |
| 07:41.11 | Wobwork | I gotta go =\ |
| 07:41.12 | pb_ee1 | give me a sec |
| 07:41.15 | Wobwork | else I'd try to help more |
| 07:41.28 | Biceps | No problem Wobwork, thanks so far :) |
| 07:41.52 | Biceps | my addon isn't THAT important, seeing as it's my first one ever. |
| 07:41.53 | pb_ee1 | arg1, arg2 = string.gmatch(commandline, "^([^ ]+) (.*)") |
| 07:41.57 | Biceps | but I got the database working. |
| 07:42.27 | Biceps | still nil. O_O |
| 07:42.29 | pb_ee1 | if it does not work, you'll need to use a for ... in... do ... end |
| 07:42.38 | pb_ee1 | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.gmatch |
| 07:42.43 | pb_ee1 | Check that ;p |
| 07:42.55 | Mikk | err string.match should work just fine |
| 07:42.57 | Mikk | gimme a sec |
| 07:43.05 | pb_ee1 | string.match? |
| 07:43.08 | Mikk | i prolly forgot some returned shit |
| 07:43.12 | Wobwork | !function string.match |
| 07:43.26 | pb_ee1 | I've read string.match but doesn't seem to do the trick |
| 07:43.28 | pb_ee1 | for w in string.gmatch(s, "%a+") do |
| 07:43.28 | pb_ee1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.28 | pb_ee1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.29 | Wobwork | my botfu is weak =\ |
| 07:43.31 | pb_ee1 | oops sorry |
| 07:43.40 | pb_ee1 | string.match: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.match |
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| 07:44.10 | Mikk | ah, my bad |
| 07:44.15 | Mikk | arg1,arg2 = string.match(commandline, "^([^ ]+) *(.*)") |
| 07:44.19 | Mikk | that's what you want |
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| 07:44.23 | Biceps | righton |
| 07:44.28 | Mikk | i remembered it returning positioning info too but i was wrong |
| 07:44.31 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: you forgot to remove the first "*" |
| 07:44.35 | Wobwork | why the first *? |
| 07:44.47 | Mikk | there's nothing wrong with the pattern |
| 07:44.54 | pb_ee1 | nevermind, i'm just saying shit ;p |
| 07:44.56 | Wobwork | Mikk: I'm not sure, but I had that feeling too |
| 07:44.56 | Mikk | Biceps: don't remove the first * |
| 07:45.10 | pb_ee1 | Biceps: DON'T DO IT! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! |
| 07:45.10 | Wobwork | maybe in a previous implementation of string.match? |
| 07:45.21 | Mikk | string.find? |
| 07:45.26 | Wobwork | probably |
| 07:45.35 | Biceps | Mikk: works fine! |
| 07:45.43 | Biceps | Much love for all you guys :) |
| 07:46.28 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: that's not fair :'( documentation doesn't say that you can specify two captures and thus that the function returns two values |
| 07:46.35 | Mikk | ah yeah.. string.find returns beginpos, endpos, capture1, capture2, ... |
| 07:46.53 | Mikk | pb_ee1: experience > manual :P |
| 07:46.59 | pb_ee1 | True :P |
| 07:47.36 | Mikk | haha i love opera's :'( |
| 07:47.46 | Mikk | looks like a right crybaby |
| 07:47.52 | Wobwork | pidgin's is pretty good =) |
| 07:48.29 | Wobwork | bye all |
| 07:48.36 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/bluh.jpg |
| 07:48.37 | Mikk | ^ opera smilies |
| 07:48.56 | Pkekyo | Opera = win :> |
| 07:48.57 | Mikk | in fact all of opera's smilies rock |
| 07:49.01 | Pkekyo | yes they do |
| 07:49.18 | Pkekyo | well, I'm leaving town soeh...laters peeps! |
| 07:49.25 | Biceps | any other list of wow events other than wowwiki? |
| 07:49.29 | Mikk | no |
| 07:49.37 | Mikk | if there is, it's gonna be a copy |
| 07:49.42 | Biceps | Ok |
| 07:49.44 | Mikk | what are you looking for? |
| 07:49.51 | Biceps | PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED |
| 07:49.56 | Biceps | and what arguments it sends |
| 07:50.01 | Mikk | no arguments |
| 07:50.05 | Biceps | right. |
| 07:50.08 | Biceps | Annoying. |
| 07:50.08 | Mikk | it just tells you that the party changed |
| 07:50.12 | Mikk | you have to find out how yourself |
| 07:50.16 | Biceps | :) |
| 07:50.22 | Punkie` | :D <- best opera smiley! |
| 07:50.29 | Pkekyo|AWOL | aye |
| 07:50.52 | Mikk | nono, the crybaby one is win :> |
| 07:51.06 | Biceps | I'm interested in a player joining, and would very much like to find out the players name :) |
| 07:51.13 | Mikk | it needs :> and >< though |
| 07:51.16 | Pkekyo|AWOL | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.20 | Mikk | wtf |
| 07:51.34 | Mikk | '< |
| 07:51.35 | Pkekyo|AWOL | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.35 | Mikk | yay |
| 07:51.48 | cnc|work | Biceps |
| 07:51.53 | cnc|work | u'll need to cache the list of party members |
| 07:52.01 | cnc|work | and when the event triggers comapre the new list with the cached one |
| 07:52.08 | Biceps | right. |
| 07:52.10 | cnc|work | s/comapre/compare/ |
| 07:52.56 | Biceps | I love it how this channel has a bot that acctualy implemented the s/ "command" frequently used in IRC :) |
| 07:53.30 | Punkie` | :@ |
| 07:53.41 | Mikk | i don't get that smiley |
| 07:53.48 | Mikk | :-( |
| 07:54.01 | Mikk | '@ |
| 07:54.06 | Punkie` | i just did the msn angry one |
| 07:54.28 | Mikk | the msn angry is sorta cranky/whiney in opera |
| 07:54.41 | pb_ee1 | http://zorglub6.free.fr/roster/ : i'll try to do an enUS release soon ;p |
| 07:55.05 | cnc|work | pb_ee1, ur french ? :o |
| 07:55.10 | pb_ee1 | yup |
| 07:55.24 | cnc|work | me too :o |
| 07:55.28 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 07:56.05 | pb_ee1 | I won't speak French here caus' there'll be some angry people around here, but hey, nice to hear that ^_^ |
| 07:56.17 | cnc|work | :p |
| 07:56.28 | cnc|work | I'm working in some stupid callcenter in brussels atm, please call it ? (a |
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| 07:56.47 | pb_ee1 | Brussels? Belgium haha :D |
| 07:56.55 | pb_ee1 | I've been in Belgium for two days |
| 07:57.03 | pb_ee1 | Beer is INSANE in Belgium (love it) |
| 07:57.43 | cnc|work | <3 |
| 07:57.52 | FISKER_Q | http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=167873 <-can anyone load this site? |
| 07:58.01 | cnc|work | I live on kortrijk usualy, near the french border, but this month I got a job in brussels |
| 07:58.18 | cnc|work | FISKER_Q: the link works fine |
| 07:58.25 | Mikk | FISKER_Q: works fine in opera9 |
| 07:58.38 | FISKER_Q | ok what does it say? |
| 07:58.38 | pb_ee1 | FISKER_Q: works fine |
| 07:59.02 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43590 10PlayerMenu/Locale.koKR.lua: |
| 07:59.02 | CIA-22 | PlayerMenu: |
| 07:59.02 | CIA-22 | - Updated koKR |
| 07:59.04 | cnc|work | Fisker-, it says that some guy hinted that they'll make an expansion announcement soonish |
| 07:59.11 | cnc|work | everyone knew that already, honestl |
| 07:59.14 | cnc|work | blizz need more cash |
| 07:59.18 | pb_ee1 | "Over the next couple of months you'll hear something, if not the next couple of weeks" (Paul Della Bitta) |
| 07:59.28 | Fisker- | bah |
| 07:59.29 | Fisker- | lame :I |
| 08:00.26 | cnc|work | giev less expansions & more content |
| 08:00.28 | Guillotine | anybody know if its possible to set the amount of indices scrolled through at a time with the mouse wheel (or up/down buttons) with a fauxscrollframe? |
| 08:00.31 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 08:00.33 | Fisker- | moar expansions |
| 08:00.38 | Fisker- | because expansions = content QQ |
| 08:00.42 | pb_ee1 | Aha, information on autodoc: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format |
| 08:00.54 | Fisker- | http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/zulaman-sneak-preview-at-e3/ <-this is weird though |
| 08:01.03 | Fisker- | "Blizzard offered a few other small bits of news: voice chat and guild banks will be coming in minor patches before the big Zul'Aman patch is released." |
| 08:01.20 | pb_ee1 | Voice chat is 2.2 |
| 08:01.32 | pb_ee1 | should be, at least ;p |
| 08:01.45 | Fisker- | yeah if 2.2 is a minor patch :P |
| 08:01.52 | pb_ee1 | Won't ;) |
| 08:02.09 | Fisker- | So that either means they want to release guildbanks or voice chat asap in a 2.1.x or they're lazy bums and can't make it until 2.2.x |
| 08:02.22 | cnc|work | probably the later |
| 08:02.31 | Fisker- | unfortunately :( |
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| 08:04.30 | Mikk | whew! guildbanks! |
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| 08:04.45 | Mikk | i'm of two minds about voicechat |
| 08:05.04 | Mikk | i really don't want to hear joe schmoe screaming in pugs |
| 08:05.10 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 08:05.11 | Mikk | but if it's positional, it's gonna rock hard |
| 08:05.33 | doktoreas | is there a sort of "perfect targets" that let you select targets? |
| 08:05.39 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Abacus-2.0 is back from the deads |
| 08:05.54 | Mikk | doktoreas: you'll have to describe that a bit better |
| 08:06.51 | Guillotine | doktoreas: you mean that lets you click on them to target the shown unit? |
| 08:06.53 | [Ammo] | doktoreas: there is not |
| 08:07.00 | doktoreas | Mikk, perfectarget show you all raid targets |
| 08:07.08 | doktoreas | Guillotine, yup |
| 08:07.15 | Guillotine | nope, not possible :( |
| 08:07.19 | doktoreas | ok thx |
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| 08:07.42 | Mikk | actually, it's possible if set up before combat |
| 08:07.51 | Mikk | but it can't change during combat |
| 08:07.53 | Mikk | API wise, i mean |
| 08:07.57 | Mikk | dunno if there's an addon that does it |
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| 08:10.45 | kaiden | how's everyone doing tonight? |
| 08:11.22 | cnc|work | its 10am |
| 08:11.34 | cnc|work | guess i'm bored though, damn work ftl |
| 08:11.39 | Biceps | I'm wishing blizzard wasn't so lazy when they wrote the events, cause that'd save me alot of work. Since I'm lazy. |
| 08:13.21 | kaiden | wahoo! ding 70 on my gnome warrior ;) |
| 08:13.26 | Biceps | grats |
| 08:13.34 | Biceps | now reroll draenei :d |
| 08:13.51 | kaiden | Biceps, already have a draenei shaman.. no need for another warrior ;p |
| 08:14.09 | Biceps | priest? mage? huntard? :) |
| 08:14.16 | sylvanaar | someone grab wau .27 do a sanity check |
| 08:15.08 | kaiden | Biceps, have 2 70 priests, a 66 mage (he'll be next) 2 70 shamans, 1 70 warrior, 1 70 druid, 1 70 lock, 1 70 paladin |
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| 08:15.14 | kaiden | :P |
| 08:15.24 | Biceps | reroll life :d |
| 08:15.34 | Saint-N | heh was just thinking that |
| 08:15.35 | kaiden | why would i do that? |
| 08:15.40 | abbat_w | =) |
| 08:15.42 | kaiden | i make roughly 100k a year |
| 08:15.44 | kaiden | own my own home |
| 08:15.47 | kaiden | have 2 cars |
| 08:15.50 | Biceps | :) |
| 08:15.57 | kaiden | and plenty of computers, what would the use of rerolling life be ;) |
| 08:15.58 | Saint-N | kaiden: move them all to seperate accounts and raid on yer own ;) |
| 08:16.04 | kaiden | Saint-N, been there done that |
| 08:16.06 | Biceps | yah :d |
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| 08:16.18 | Saint-N | yeah but now theres good loot heh |
| 08:16.21 | abbat_w | kaiden, possible you can make 200-300k / year if you drop all you chars ;) |
| 08:16.26 | kaiden | although, since they changed the logic system i can't really do instances on my own anymore :( |
| 08:17.28 | kaiden | abbat_w, nah my job is far too stressful to not play the game to release :) |
| 08:17.49 | sylvanaar | what do you do? |
| 08:18.15 | kaiden | network operations for the second largest domain registrar on the planet |
| 08:18.27 | abbat_w | huh |
| 08:18.38 | Saint-N | anyone know of a free antivirus that doesnt suck for 2k3 server? |
| 08:18.48 | pb_ee1 | Why does nobody seem interested by my roster :'( |
| 08:18.54 | kaiden | Saint-N, Avast |
| 08:19.07 | Biceps | pb_ee1: cause its french? :) |
| 08:19.08 | Saint-N | avast runs on 2k3? |
| 08:19.12 | kaiden | pretty sure it does |
| 08:19.16 | pb_ee1 | Nope, i've posted on the french forums |
| 08:19.17 | kaiden | let me look |
| 08:19.26 | pb_ee1 | IF it works, i'll release it in enUS |
| 08:19.31 | Saint-N | i was debating sophos |
| 08:19.36 | Saint-N | but its a tad too intrusive |
| 08:19.41 | Biceps | enGB and I might consider testing it |
| 08:19.42 | abbat_w | Try to release it at us first |
| 08:19.57 | pb_ee1 | Well actually it has been first coded for my guild |
| 08:19.58 | abbat_w | Possible french ppl too lazy to try ;) |
| 08:20.09 | pb_ee1 | and my guild is speaking in French ;p |
| 08:20.23 | pb_ee1 | it's not so simple at all to make a roster that manages enUS AND frFR at the same time |
| 08:20.27 | abbat_w | C'est tres bien! |
| 08:20.43 | pb_ee1 | my roster does it, but that means that some data must be completely changed for it to work in enUS |
| 08:20.47 | abbat_w | Oui, je parles au francais un peut ;) |
| 08:20.55 | pb_ee1 | abbat_w: http://zorglub6.free.fr/roster/ |
| 08:21.01 | pb_ee1 | And you have a nice French ;P |
| 08:21.08 | pb_ee1 | s/have/speak/ |
| 08:23.06 | kaiden | bleh now the real fun begins |
| 08:23.21 | kaiden | farming blacksmithing to 375 so i can make a Fireguard |
| 08:24.43 | Saint-N | je ne parlez pas francais tres bien |
| 08:25.02 | Biceps | my french is le suck |
| 08:25.08 | abbat_w | ahahha ;) |
| 08:25.12 | abbat_w | 'le suck' ;) |
| 08:25.14 | Saint-N | heh |
| 08:25.27 | Saint-N | biceps you only really need 2 phrases |
| 08:25.37 | Saint-N | manger moi and manger merde ; |
| 08:25.41 | Biceps | Parlez vous anglais? |
| 08:25.41 | abbat_w | 1. commen ca va? |
| 08:26.01 | Saint-N | hehe actually its closer to 5 |
| 08:26.17 | Biceps | manger moi... |
| 08:26.19 | Biceps | eat me? |
| 08:26.44 | abbat_w | 2. monsieur, je ne mages pas six jours! |
| 08:26.53 | Saint-N | Je ne parlex pas francais tu parlez anglias., ou est le salle d'baine, quel heure et il, manger merde, pourquoi and que? |
| 08:26.57 | Biceps | I havn't eaten for 6 days? |
| 08:27.00 | Biceps | or is that hours? |
| 08:27.02 | Saint-N | hahahaha |
| 08:27.03 | abbat_w | 'je ne manges pas' even |
| 08:27.03 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 08:27.09 | abbat_w | biceps, yep ;) |
| 08:27.13 | kaiden | if it was days i feel bad for the french! |
| 08:27.13 | Saint-N | thats a pretty useful one too |
| 08:27.45 | Biceps | manger merde is odd |
| 08:27.54 | Saint-N | comme ci comme ca is useful too |
| 08:27.58 | Biceps | merde is a curse, so its like "eat shit" |
| 08:27.59 | Saint-N | biceps: it's eat shit |
| 08:28.38 | Saint-N | manger merde et expire |
| 08:28.38 | Biceps | manger merde et mort! |
| 08:28.39 | Biceps | damnit |
| 08:28.41 | Saint-N | yeah mort |
| 08:28.45 | Saint-N | thats the one ;P |
| 08:28.54 | abbat_w | I read this phraze in one russian book. Old russian aristocrate after 1917 year revolution say this phrase at resort. He ask some money from Red Army men ;) |
| 08:28.54 | Saint-N | morte |
| 08:29.01 | Saint-N | hahah |
| 08:29.25 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43591 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 08:29.25 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 08:29.26 | CIA-22 | - Added IsNumber, IsString, ToNumber, ToString for explicit conversions |
| 08:29.30 | Saint-N | abbat_w: the one learn to speak casual russian for tourists had the phrase "help me ive lost a lot of blood and need a hospital" in it |
| 08:29.37 | Saint-N | as like one of the first 15 phrases you need |
| 08:29.39 | Biceps | haha |
| 08:29.40 | Biceps | :d |
| 08:29.50 | Biceps | thats awesome |
| 08:29.52 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 08:30.02 | Saint-N | i think it was a berlitz book |
| 08:30.07 | abbat_w | 'i've lost a lot of blood' ;)))))) |
| 08:30.09 | Saint-N | but it definiately ruled |
| 08:30.09 | abbat_w | hahahaha ;) |
| 08:30.36 | Biceps | "Hello, can you point me to the nearest hotel?" "I've lost alot of blood and need a hospital." |
| 08:30.49 | abbat_w | lol ;) |
| 08:30.53 | Saint-N | it was just nestled in with like "where is the bus stop/hotel" "is there a restaurant nearby" "how much is the room" "how much does this cost" |
| 08:31.00 | Saint-N | it was funny |
| 08:31.01 | Biceps | hehe |
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| 08:31.14 | Saint-N | then POOF |
| 08:31.27 | Saint-N | help me ive lost a lot of blood and need a hospital |
| 08:31.40 | abbat_w | :) |
| 08:31.45 | Saint-N | that made me wanna go to russia |
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| 08:31.56 | Saint-N | instead i moved to new york |
| 08:32.09 | Saint-N | still havent been mugged yet |
| 08:32.45 | Saint-N | hell i get respect knuckles from all the blacks in my neighborhood for having the balls to live there before it was trendy and wa;lking around in winter in shorts ;P |
| 08:32.54 | Biceps | hehe |
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| 08:33.05 | Saint-N | the shorts in winter thing automatically means im insane ;) |
| 08:33.10 | Saint-N | they're all hatiain and jamacian |
| 08:33.15 | Biceps | hah |
| 08:33.21 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 08:33.26 | Biceps | shorts in winter is standard issue for me |
| 08:33.32 | Biceps | its part of my snowboarding gear |
| 08:33.33 | Saint-N | heh me too |
| 08:33.53 | Saint-N | but thats just from living in calgary for 10 years and livingin in vancouver with no snow for 20 ;) |
| 08:34.23 | abbat_w | One of my friends told me 2 terms. One is 'cracker' and second is 'oreo'. 'Cracker' mean 'black in sould, but white skin' and 'Oreo' vice versa |
| 08:34.25 | abbat_w | It's true? |
| 08:34.36 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43592 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Extras/BigWigs.lua Modules/BarInterface.lua): Assessment: Added code towards a top-level fight select |
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| 08:34.43 | Saint-N | heh |
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| 08:34.51 | Biceps | oreo stacks! |
| 08:35.06 | Saint-N | i had cracker written in the dust of my truck a few months back and my neighbors came out and started laughing when i showed them |
| 08:35.13 | abbat_w | 'black in soul' even |
| 08:35.16 | Saint-N | "son you aint no cracka" |
| 08:35.32 | Saint-N | i love my neighbors they're rad |
| 08:35.54 | Saint-N | and they dont get offended when i ask them questions like "so when did it become trendy to call each other nigga instead of brotha?" |
| 08:36.12 | Saint-N | course prior to the questions ive alwayus pointed out that im canadian ;P |
| 08:36.25 | Saint-N | so they arent offended in the slightest when i do ask |
| 08:36.52 | Saint-N | because then its actually a curiosity question and not a "damn blacks" question |
| 08:37.03 | Biceps | A commonly used trick by americans on holiday in europe; claim they are canadian |
| 08:37.12 | Saint-N | oh |
| 08:37.19 | Saint-N | i saw this luggage set in times square the other day called "American Tourist" |
| 08:37.26 | Saint-N | and on each bag was a red maple leaf |
| 08:37.29 | Biceps | :) |
| 08:37.30 | Biceps | yup |
| 08:37.34 | Saint-N | thats awesome |
| 08:37.38 | abbat_w | =))) |
| 08:37.41 | Biceps | There is aloooot of anti-us going on all over the world |
| 08:37.48 | Biceps | but noone hates canadians :) |
| 08:37.51 | Saint-N | ive never been more proud of my country since i moved here |
| 08:37.55 | Mikk | except the americans :P |
| 08:37.58 | Biceps | true |
| 08:37.59 | Saint-N | laugh yeah mikk |
| 08:38.11 | Saint-N | but you always hold a grude against things better than you ;P |
| 08:38.14 | Saint-N | grudge |
| 08:38.17 | Mikk | laf |
| 08:38.31 | Saint-N | face we're bigger and on top, in prison that makes you our bitch ;P) |
| 08:38.32 | evl | I love the US |
| 08:38.43 | evl | the more Bush fucks up the more oil Norway can sell and the cheaper the dollar will be |
| 08:38.48 | evl | So I can buy more crap I don't need off eBay |
| 08:38.55 | Saint-N | first week i was here iw as driving around in the bronx listening to 3 dead trolls |
| 08:38.58 | Saint-N | the war of 1812 |
| 08:39.28 | Biceps | 3 dead trolls = win |
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| 08:39.32 | Saint-N | i stop at a light and its blaring out these two big latino guys come over to my window to ask what the song was |
| 08:39.39 | Saint-N | like muscley big |
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| 08:39.47 | Saint-N | cuz all latinos are tiny ;P |
| 08:40.05 | Saint-N | cuz it was the BEST song they've ever heard |
| 08:40.28 | Saint-N | mikk: same way new amsterdam became new york city ;P |
| 08:40.51 | Saint-N | and constantinople became istanbul ;P |
| 08:41.08 | Saint-N | speaking of which i get to go see them this weekend |
| 08:43.36 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 08:43.39 | Mikk | well... new amsterdam becoming new york MIGHT be related to the dutch getting omgwtfpwnd by the exported britons |
| 08:43.51 | abbat_w | someone know good addon for mage pet tracking? |
| 08:44.00 | abbat_w | like pet ttl etc ;) |
| 08:44.25 | Biceps | nerf water elementals :d |
| 08:44.58 | abbat_w | i just respec to this build for arena games |
| 08:45.06 | abbat_w | and pet so fun ;) |
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| 08:45.59 | syeren | Hmm, would it be safe for me to change... |
| 08:46.00 | syeren | background:SetTexture("Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-StatusBar"); |
| 08:46.08 | syeren | To a local file so I can change the texture? |
| 08:46.20 | syeren | If that's even possible. |
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| 08:46.58 | [Ammo] | Mikk: new amsterdam became new york because the dutch were forced to trade it for Suriname :p |
| 08:47.14 | syeren | You should be able to help me [Ammo] :P! |
| 08:47.19 | [Ammo] | never |
| 08:47.32 | [Ammo] | I'm busy atm |
| 08:47.36 | [Ammo] | big ass commit incoming |
| 08:48.41 | Biceps | chirping? |
| 08:48.47 | Biceps | or hitting a ball with a bat |
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| 08:51.40 | abbat_w | o! |
| 08:51.51 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: prat info page is back, but i don't have the data for its modules |
| 08:51.55 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43593 10Violation/ (20 files in 6 dirs): Violation: add LoD module pack capability along with bat file and .wau file. |
| 08:51.56 | abbat_w | Maybe Ammo as warlock know good mod for manage pet? |
| 08:51.56 | cryogen | you can keep your big asses to yourself thank you very much! |
| 08:52.21 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 kewl |
| 08:52.37 | Biceps | speaking of Prat, how do you change the language spoken in /say when using it? my button is gone :) |
| 08:52.53 | sylvanaar | enable the button again? |
| 08:53.07 | Biceps | how is the followup question. |
| 08:53.27 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43594 10Violation/Other/ (Violation_Healing.toc Violation_Other.toc): Violation: correct toc name. |
| 08:53.33 | sylvanaar | well, you can use the chatbuttons module |
| 08:53.43 | sylvanaar | enable the chat menu |
| 08:53.56 | Biceps | got it, thanks |
| 08:55.13 | cryogen | i do wonder what is causing my ace2 entry to use upwards of 10M of memory in one night |
| 08:55.22 | cryogen | wish i could find out and lart the author |
| 08:57.01 | sylvanaar | the memory profiling is so worthless |
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| 08:58.19 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r43595 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: Solarian: Bugfix. |
| 08:59.19 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r43596 10AtlasLoot/ (PvP/WorldPvP.en.lua Reputation/rep.lua): |
| 08:59.19 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:59.19 | CIA-22 | - Bugfix |
| 09:00.17 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43597 10Violation/Damage/Violation_Damage.toc: Violation: toc field correction |
| 09:02.04 | cnc|work | Nargiddley, ping :) |
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| 09:03.12 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r43598 10Violation/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 09:03.12 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 09:03.12 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 09:04.10 | [Ammo] | danm quick koreans |
| 09:05.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:05.43 | krka | does there exist some system for writing translations in game, and automatically storing the translation in saved variables? |
| 09:05.46 | krka | for easy export |
| 09:06.58 | cnc|work | AceLocale |
| 09:07.07 | evl | ckknight: Would it be possible for Violation to have an option not to show all windows on reload or login, i'd prefer turning the meters on when there's actually a fight |
| 09:07.20 | ckknight | evl: I have no connection to Violation |
| 09:07.27 | evl | wrong guy |
| 09:07.30 | Mikk | You want [Ammo] for violation |
| 09:07.38 | evl | I know, he's my great leader |
| 09:07.39 | cnc|work | what does violation do anyway ? |
| 09:07.47 | cnc|work | http://wowace.com/wiki/AceLocale-2.2, krka |
| 09:07.50 | Mikk | cnc|work: lightweight damage meter |
| 09:07.52 | pb_ee1 | violation is kind of sw_stats |
| 09:07.54 | [Ammo] | evl: you can turn on show in group shrug |
| 09:08.08 | Mikk | evl: or click Violation in the fubar to toggle on and off |
| 09:08.09 | cnc|work | ah well, recount serves me well enough |
| 09:08.25 | Mikk | yeah, nothing wrong with recount at all |
| 09:08.32 | Mikk | vio is just built specifically to be lightweight |
| 09:08.39 | Mikk | which some people care about and some not |
| 09:08.43 | Mikk | each to his own =) |
| 09:08.49 | cnc|work | true, I'm the not care kinda guy :p |
| 09:08.50 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 09:08.58 | [Ammo] | recount stores an immense amount of detail |
| 09:09.04 | [Ammo] | at the expensive of being very memory heavy |
| 09:09.08 | [Ammo] | violation doesn't |
| 09:09.23 | evl | violation + /combatlog + wws > recount for me atleast |
| 09:09.29 | cnc|work | well, recount also gives me an immense amount of data, might be a bit too much sometimes though |
| 09:09.30 | pb_ee1 | I just restored Violation page: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Violation |
| 09:09.49 | vodrin | well its a good job they are too different mods and you have the choice :) |
| 09:10.09 | krka | cnc|work: that link didn't give very much info :) |
| 09:10.21 | Mikk | "Violation is an addon by ag and Rabbit " orly? |
| 09:10.29 | krka | yarly |
| 09:10.38 | [Ammo] | it was originally by ag and rabbit yeah |
| 09:10.43 | [Ammo] | but there is barely any ag code left ;) |
| 09:10.48 | Mikk | oho |
| 09:10.58 | cryogen | i dont know violation gets its DPS stats from |
| 09:10.59 | Mikk | well, the toc author section lists ammo, rabbit, adirelle |
| 09:11.04 | cryogen | but they are on crack mostly |
| 09:11.09 | cryogen | +where |
| 09:11.13 | [Ammo] | cryogen: it's burst DPS |
| 09:11.16 | [Ammo] | now go use some other addon |
| 09:11.18 | Mikk | they measure highest seen burst dps |
| 09:11.34 | cryogen | [Ammo]: how rude |
| 09:11.35 | Mikk | [Ammo]: I still think you're wrong to call it "DPS" and not "Burst DPS" |
| 09:11.39 | Mikk | Everyone expects "DPS" to be something different |
| 09:11.42 | [Ammo] | not rude |
| 09:11.51 | [Ammo] | I'm just saying use another addon |
| 09:11.59 | cnc|work | I like how the syncing goes , [Ammo] |
| 09:12.00 | cryogen | no you're demanding that i do |
| 09:12.06 | cryogen | without doing any sort of digging at why i made the comment |
| 09:12.08 | cryogen | very rude indeed |
| 09:12.11 | krka | burst dps seems like a silly concept to me |
| 09:12.20 | Mikk | cryogen: Don't get into a pissing contest with ammo. You _will_ lose :P |
| 09:12.22 | [Ammo] | fight dps is even more silly |
| 09:12.27 | krka | i mean... you can do infinite damage per 0 seconds :P |
| 09:12.30 | [Ammo] | since it's essentially the same bars |
| 09:12.42 | cnc|work | krka, then dont calculate per 0 seconds ? |
| 09:12.44 | [Ammo] | krka: not really thre is a mintimeframe of 1.5 second |
| 09:12.45 | cryogen | Mikk: i cant lose |
| 09:12.46 | [Ammo] | aka global cooldown |
| 09:13.07 | cryogen | Mikk: i can talk to operserv, he cant :p |
| 09:13.12 | cnc|work | [Ammo], think he means that divide by 0 gives infinite, thats some pointless argument imo tho |
| 09:13.19 | krka | so when do you start counting? |
| 09:13.20 | Mikk | cryogen: good point :P |
| 09:13.25 | krka | when you start casting? when you enter combat? |
| 09:13.31 | Mikk | highest seen burst |
| 09:13.34 | krka | when your first swing hits? |
| 09:13.40 | [Ammo] | krka, damage hits the mob -> 1.5 second burst, 4 second cooldown time |
| 09:13.53 | cryogen | anyway i dont use violation to monitor dps, i just wondered where it got it's crack inspired figures from |
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| 09:13.53 | Mikk | so yeah shammies will have WOOHOO "dps" |
| 09:13.56 | cryogen | now i know |
| 09:13.57 | [Ammo] | so it counts damage done when you're actually damaging |
| 09:13.57 | Mikk | spriests will have kack dsp |
| 09:14.16 | [Ammo] | calling it crack inspired figures is more rude than me saying you should not use violation imho |
| 09:14.23 | krka | what if you one shot a mob? |
| 09:14.26 | krka | how long is the timeframe? |
| 09:14.32 | [Ammo] | 1.5 seconds minimum |
| 09:14.40 | [Ammo] | so you do a quick burst of dps indeed |
| 09:14.44 | krka | but the fight didnt take 1.5 seconds |
| 09:14.46 | Mikk | so spriests averaging 1000 dps will have lots lower "dps" than an enh shaman averaging 600 dps |
| 09:14.54 | krka | if you have a really fast dagger, and attack a rabbit |
| 09:14.55 | cryogen | Mikk: actually i find it it pushes mine up more than it should :) |
| 09:15.09 | cryogen | hence me calling it crack inspired |
| 09:15.19 | cryogen | but now it's been explained, it's not so crack inspired |
| 09:15.33 | [Ammo] | for DoT classes like myself the burst dps is actually quite accurate, since I do constant damage ticks |
| 09:15.37 | krka | the dagger cycle is less than 1.5 seconds then, so 1.5 as a minimum seems flawed |
| 09:15.43 | [Ammo] | and over longer fights its accurate as well |
| 09:15.53 | [Ammo] | if you find it flawed, write a module |
| 09:15.59 | [Ammo] | I just added LoD module pack support |
| 09:15.59 | Mikk | but yeah it should be named for what it is, imo. but i guess ammo likes to get asked the question and bite people's heads off :P |
| 09:16.03 | [Ammo] | feel free to code a 3rd party module |
| 09:16.18 | cryogen | Mikk: he doesnt need to get asked questions to bite peoples heads off :p |
| 09:16.23 | pb_ee1 | Anybody who wants its addon/lib page to be restored now? Just tell me |
| 09:17.25 | [Ammo] | the dps figures it shows are also stored for total time damaging |
| 09:17.37 | [Ammo] | so every damage you do adds a minimum of 1.5 seconds to the total time |
| 09:17.44 | [Ammo] | aka over a raid the dps is actually quite correct |
| 09:17.50 | [Ammo] | but people only look at short term stuff |
| 09:18.04 | evl | except it's showing hunters doing crap DPS |
| 09:18.08 | evl | oh wait, that isn't a bug, nvm |
| 09:18.12 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:18.14 | cryogen | lol |
| 09:18.22 | Mikk | evl: get rogue leather and spec bm already :P |
| 09:18.37 | evl | Sorry, I have only one spec: OBLITERATION MODE |
| 09:18.40 | cnc|work | I like pets getting oneshot |
| 09:18.45 | [Ammo] | let me see if I can explain this better |
| 09:18.47 | cnc|work | as tank, I always make sure pets get cleaved |
| 09:18.55 | [Ammo] | if you do damage at one point in time say 100 damage |
| 09:19.05 | [Ammo] | then your dps is 100 / 1.5 |
| 09:19.13 | [Ammo] | then there is a 4 second cooldown after each damage done |
| 09:19.27 | [Ammo] | if I do damage 3 seconds after my first damage done |
| 09:19.30 | [Ammo] | and I do 200 damage |
| 09:19.37 | [Ammo] | then I will have 100 + 200 = 300 damage in 3 seconds |
| 09:19.45 | [Ammo] | if I do damage after 5 seconds instead of 3 |
| 09:19.57 | [Ammo] | I will have 100 + 200 = 300 damage in 3 seconds as well, since it's 2x 1.5 seconds |
| 09:20.09 | [Ammo] | if that makes sense |
| 09:20.17 | Jagobah | Violation, Recount, or Assessment.... what do I use for damage meters! |
| 09:20.23 | cryogen | Jagobah: all of them! |
| 09:20.28 | Mikk | Jagobah: try em all, see what you like |
| 09:20.30 | Mikk | they all work |
| 09:20.36 | Mikk | they all have different purposes |
| 09:20.41 | cnc|work | Jagobah, all loaded at once is nice |
| 09:20.41 | Biceps | SWStats, damagemeters too ^^ |
| 09:20.41 | Jagobah | all at once? |
| 09:20.44 | Jagobah | ! |
| 09:20.47 | Jagobah | ok! |
| 09:20.53 | [Ammo] | I should add recount and assessment spying too to Violation |
| 09:20.53 | Saint-N | oh have any of you read the book World War Z yet? |
| 09:20.58 | Jagobah | I will also get KTM and Omen at the same time too |
| 09:21.05 | cnc|work | [Ammo], does recount share its data ? |
| 09:21.08 | Saint-N | about the zombie wars? |
| 09:21.14 | Biceps | I recently replaced KTM with omen. Me is very happy with omen. |
| 09:21.16 | [Ammo] | I think cryect added that |
| 09:21.20 | Mikk | Then add GroupCalendar + GEM and watch your UI go KABOOM! |
| 09:21.52 | Mikk | [Ammo]: DmgSpyLib? |
| 09:21.57 | Saint-N | the best part was the one guy talking about the border to border army that was fighting to take back the us, and how thier first battle to get them all pumped up they had massive stereos and loud systems blaring Iron Maiden- The Trooper |
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| 09:22.13 | Saint-N | cuz really when you're fighting to take back your country i cant think of a better song |
| 09:22.21 | [Ammo] | Mikk: no thanks |
| 09:22.34 | [Ammo] | Mikk: I don't feel like sharing the work I did to get SWS spying to work in a lib :p |
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| 09:22.40 | Mikk | haha |
| 09:22.42 | [Ammo] | bloody SWS code |
| 09:22.53 | [Ammo] | someone should take that coder out in a yard and shoot him |
| 09:22.59 | cnc|work | question [Ammo] |
| 09:23.27 | Mikk | then again i guess for most damage sync formats the hard part isn't deformatting but rather converting to a format suitable for your own addon |
| 09:23.34 | cnc|work | how do u manage syncing with SWstats & the like after a reset ? |
| 09:23.34 | Jagobah | I like KTm with the cpu manager |
| 09:23.46 | Mikk | Jagobah: lol? |
| 09:23.49 | [Ammo] | cnc|work: magic :p |
| 09:24.12 | [Ammo] | cnc|work: sws never actually resets the data sent |
| 09:24.19 | [Ammo] | cnc|work: it just ups the sessionid by 1 |
| 09:24.22 | Mikk | You realize KTM's cpu manager eats more CPU than Omen does in total? :P |
| 09:24.30 | Jagobah | No |
| 09:24.37 | Mikk | (And at that point you haven't even done real KTM work) |
| 09:24.45 | [Ammo] | cnc|work: so if you did 1000 damage with SWS and it's reset then it just sends 1000 again but with a session id 1 higher |
| 09:24.45 | cnc|work | [Ammo]; but when your meter is resets, you just save the old swstats data & substract by it to get a total ? |
| 09:24.49 | Jagobah | But I prefer KTM's accuracy |
| 09:24.54 | [Ammo] | cnc|work: I do that continuesl |
| 09:25.00 | [Ammo] | cnc|work: works pretty damn well |
| 09:25.34 | [Ammo] | which reminds me, I need to fix DMM spying |
| 09:25.42 | [Ammo] | dmm sucks a bit |
| 09:25.46 | [Ammo] | it can send data after the fight |
| 09:25.53 | Mikk | repeatedly :S |
| 09:25.55 | [Ammo] | yarr |
| 09:26.06 | [Ammo] | I might just rip it out completely |
| 09:26.09 | [Ammo] | disabled it by default already |
| 09:26.32 | cnc|work | Jagobah, how is KTM more accurate ? |
| 09:27.09 | cnc|work | I found omen to be more accurate for my palatank |
| 09:27.23 | cnc|work | as lots of my threat comes from powergains, which KTM just ignores |
| 09:27.30 | cnc|work | (Omen aint to the top yet with them either though) |
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| 09:29.53 | sylvanaar | you thought sws sync was difficult ammo? |
| 09:30.04 | cryogen | i know this isnt entirely ora2's fault but last night i was dragging the MT targets window, and the tank pulled putting us in combat |
| 09:30.14 | cryogen | so the window got 'stuck' to my mouse |
| 09:30.18 | cryogen | is there any way that can be avoided? |
| 09:30.35 | Saint-N | im not a slave to a world that doesnt give a shiiiiiiiit |
| 09:30.51 | Saint-N | the death of one is a tradgey, the death millions is a statistic |
| 09:30.55 | sylvanaar | or better, what didnt you like about it? |
| 09:31.08 | Saint-N | haha cry ive had that happen a few times |
| 09:31.30 | kaiden | just spent 250g to buy a crapload of mark of sargeras, trying to get exhalted with aldor |
| 09:31.39 | kaiden | vindicator's brand looks scrumptious for a fury warrior |
| 09:31.39 | Saint-N | oh syl ken says you suck for making it IE for the banner ;P |
| 09:32.04 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.05 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.08 | Saint-N | he was ranting about it this morning |
| 09:32.14 | cryogen | judgement of blood is a horde paladin spell |
| 09:32.15 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: the code is 6 pages long |
| 09:32.21 | Saint-N | cryogen: nope ret pally judgement |
| 09:32.24 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: and very inefficient |
| 09:32.47 | cryogen | Saint-N: huh? |
| 09:33.03 | Saint-N | oh |
| 09:33.07 | Saint-N | nm i read that line wrong |
| 09:33.10 | cnc|work | cryogen, horde spell, add it back I sue it lol |
| 09:33.16 | Saint-N | i thought YOU put the NPC Spell? thingy there |
| 09:33.32 | cryogen | Antiarc: ping :) |
| 09:33.36 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: the whole of SWS code doesn't use a logical naming scheme either |
| 09:33.37 | cnc|work | Antiarc, ping |
| 09:33.43 | KriLL3 | pitbull can't show character portraits, true? |
| 09:33.47 | cnc|work | cryogen, lets spamping him ? :p |
| 09:33.48 | cryogen | KriLL3: untrue |
| 09:33.49 | [Ammo] | KriLL3: false |
| 09:33.51 | Saint-N | cryogen: it pings on his name ;) |
| 09:33.54 | cryogen | cnc|work: i think once will suffice :) |
| 09:33.54 | KriLL3 | then how? |
| 09:34.00 | cnc|work | :( |
| 09:34.03 | Saint-N | its not like its a command |
| 09:34.16 | [Ammo] | KriLL3: enable portrait module, and select it to show portratits |
| 09:34.26 | [Ammo] | aka read the menus |
| 09:34.41 | Saint-N | heh reading pitbull menus hurts my eyes |
| 09:35.12 | KriLL3 | yay works better than ZMC |
| 09:35.17 | KriLL3 | Saint-N: agreed |
| 09:35.30 | KriLL3 | same with eePanels and other addons that use that drop down stuff, painful |
| 09:35.48 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: all in all SWS sync wasn't difficult, converting their utter shit code to something nice lean and efficient was |
| 09:35.52 | sylvanaar | Saint-N idk Kaelten asked me to put it in to help the site - so i did |
| 09:36.17 | [Ammo] | but I managed to do it in 100 lines of code or so instead of their 6 pages |
| 09:37.08 | KriLL3 | pff, long code is cool. |
| 09:37.20 | KriLL3 | makes it look like you put some time into it |
| 09:37.26 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] ah ok |
| 09:37.33 | [Ammo] | actually I did it in 60 lines |
| 09:37.39 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:38.04 | dodgizzla | Do it in 40! |
| 09:38.07 | cnc|work | tbh, KriLL3 |
| 09:38.15 | cnc|work | if someone does something in 6 pages |
| 09:38.18 | [Ammo] | dodgizzla: can do, but now it's 60 readable lines |
| 09:38.19 | cnc|work | and you do it in 60 lins |
| 09:38.26 | cnc|work | then its you that put work into it not htem ^^ |
| 09:38.35 | cnc|work | s/htem/them/ |
| 09:38.38 | KriLL3 | I know, just doesn't look like it. ;) |
| 09:38.48 | cnc|work | true ;o |
| 09:39.02 | dodgizzla | [Ammo]: I was just refering to Star Trek, where Kirk tells Scotty to fix stuff in some time and Scotty undercuts him :o |
| 09:39.08 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] you dont send tho right? |
| 09:39.30 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: I could send |
| 09:39.36 | [Ammo] | would take me another 10 lines |
| 09:39.39 | [Ammo] | or less |
| 09:39.43 | [Ammo] | but I don't |
| 09:39.49 | [Ammo] | because my data is less than compatible |
| 09:40.05 | abbat_w | hehe |
| 09:40.17 | abbat_w | in next content patch resilience affect DoT damage |
| 09:40.21 | abbat_w | nice news |
| 09:42.50 | vodrin | meh stops people swapping to shadow resistance atleast |
| 09:43.42 | abbat_w | yep |
| 09:43.49 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] the code is "very early wow style" |
| 09:44.46 | Fisker- | Anyone got a some site on the topic of base64 encoded images |
| 09:44.52 | Fisker- | where the img src is a base64 encoded string |
| 09:44.58 | Fisker- | and not a url |
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| 09:46.08 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: naah the code is a mixmatch of things |
| 09:46.14 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: without any clear naming scheme |
| 09:46.19 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: or correlation |
| 09:46.33 | sylvanaar | reminds me of CT_ |
| 09:47.21 | [Ammo] | for instance for the syncqueue thing he uses a table with functions |
| 09:47.26 | [Ammo] | but for everything else he either uses globals |
| 09:47.28 | [Ammo] | or local functions |
| 09:47.29 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 09:48.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, i thought that was a strange departure |
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| 09:50.01 | abbat_w | crap |
| 09:50.12 | abbat_w | our company chief security officer looks like gay |
| 09:50.40 | abbat_w | he drive yellow mazda6 and have dolche and gabbana gear |
| 09:51.04 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43599 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/AtlasLoot.lua): |
| 09:51.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:51.04 | CIA-22 | - Added a message to inform when a LoD module has loaded. |
| 09:51.07 | kaiden | well the fact that you know what dolce and gabbana are, you look like gay too :) |
| 09:51.56 | abbat_w | Ahah ;) |
| 09:52.18 | abbat_w | no, i just have information 'how to detect gay' ;) |
| 09:52.35 | kaiden | that's what all the pretty boys say |
| 09:53.32 | cryogen | gaydar |
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| 09:54.30 | pb_ee1 | Ok cool, only 948 pages remaining: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:Pb_ee1/Article:Restoring |
| 09:54.34 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r43600 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: update zhTW |
| 09:56.12 | Ominous | pb_ee1: wow |
| 09:57.27 | kaiden | *sniff* only 110 mark of sargeras to go before i hit revered then i can turn in my 34 fel armaments |
| 09:57.44 | evl | i vendored 50+ of those yesterday :/( |
| 09:58.01 | [Ammo] | evl: don't vendor sargeras, send to Bubblehearth :p |
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| 10:00.13 | cnc|work | giev scryer signets |
| 10:00.15 | cnc|work | shld grind them |
| 10:00.21 | cnc|work | but I just migrated with my prot pala to khadgar |
| 10:00.25 | cnc|work | so no grinding char :( |
| 10:00.30 | kaiden | i have crap loads of scryer signets |
| 10:00.33 | kaiden | but nobody wants to trade |
| 10:00.44 | kaiden | i have about 300 Sunfury Signets and about 200 of the lower level ones |
| 10:01.09 | kaiden | i also have 29 arcane tomes that nobody seems to want to trade for |
| 10:01.24 | Mikk | cryogen: thanks for the heads-up on the window-stuck-to-mouse problem. i'm reworking the code for those frames now and will keep it in mind. |
| 10:01.26 | nevcairiel | sell the stuff on ah? |
| 10:01.56 | cryogen | Mikk: :) it made me look like a bit of a twit :D |
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| 10:02.11 | cryogen | stood around doing nothing while my ui reloaded in combat with 28098109 addons |
| 10:02.11 | cryogen | brr |
| 10:02.31 | Mikk | hehe |
| 10:02.38 | Mikk | tab target ftw? =P |
| 10:03.51 | cryogen | well, i unloaded all my mana |
| 10:03.57 | cryogen | than couldnt click my shadowfiend |
| 10:04.03 | cryogen | (why i dotn have it binded i dont know) |
| 10:05.04 | Mikk | well.. erm.. you wanted to get some regen ticks in? :P |
| 10:05.11 | cryogen | funny that |
| 10:05.19 | cryogen | when i came back from ui reloading i had 4k mana almost |
| 10:05.26 | Mikk | see? =) |
| 10:05.35 | cryogen | thats how long it took :) |
| 10:05.43 | Mikk | eek |
| 10:05.51 | Mikk | do you run embedded libs? |
| 10:05.53 | cryogen | yeah |
| 10:05.58 | cryogen | i need to trim my addon list really |
| 10:05.58 | Mikk | unembed |
| 10:06.03 | cryogen | i mean no i dont |
| 10:06.08 | Mikk | oh |
| 10:06.12 | cryogen | thought you said disembeded :) |
| 10:06.16 | Mikk | ah =) |
| 10:06.28 | cryogen | i need to cut back on a few i guess |
| 10:06.33 | cryogen | but they're all so useful! |
| 10:06.57 | Matrix110 | Ye its kinda hard to cut back on the interface |
| 10:07.10 | Matrix110 | although reloading UI taking like 1min is kinda sucky:P |
| 10:07.21 | cryogen | logging in too |
| 10:08.33 | cryogen | i have about 15 fubar plugins alone :) |
| 10:09.41 | Mikk | mhm here's where AddonLoader delayed load would be nice(tm) |
| 10:09.53 | Mikk | except that doesn't really work with fubar plugins cause fubar force loads them :S |
| 10:10.21 | cryogen | in fact most of my "addons" are libraries |
| 10:10.30 | Mikk | i'm running a hack locally where fubar checks if addonloader is loaded, and, if so, asks if addonloader is going to load the addon |
| 10:10.34 | Matrix110 | Even without libaries i got too many |
| 10:10.35 | Ominous | right, Template:Curse now works |
| 10:10.39 | Mikk | feels a bit hacky though |
| 10:10.48 | cryogen | just uninstalled 8 addons, went through the list and found most are libs |
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| 10:12.05 | Mikk | cryogen: run http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat on your install |
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| 10:12.10 | Matrix110 | 64 Addons(no libaries/no Lod parts counted) |
| 10:12.12 | Mikk | it'll wipe any remaining libs rotting inside addons |
| 10:12.22 | Matrix110 | But i have 303 Folders! |
| 10:14.05 | cryogen | Mikk: wow that deleted a ton of crap |
| 10:15.01 | cryogen | i run wua with "delete first" i would have thought the mess wouldnt be there in the first place :) |
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| 10:16.25 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43601 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (11 files): |
| 10:16.25 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: initial commit |
| 10:16.25 | CIA-22 | - All Set and PvP data from AtlasLoot split off as a LoD module |
| 10:16.41 | Mikk | cryogen: hrm.. yeah. one would think.... o.O |
| 10:16.43 | sylvanaar | cryogen it shouldnt be there |
| 10:16.51 | cryogen | maybe they were empty folders |
| 10:16.53 | cryogen | didnt actually look |
| 10:16.59 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43602 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/ (AtlasLoot_OldInstances.toc original.cn.lua): |
| 10:16.59 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 10:16.59 | CIA-22 | - Simp. Chinese update |
| 10:17.25 | sylvanaar | do your versions have a - or + |
| 10:17.35 | cryogen | ah could be related to the bug i meant to look at btu never got round to |
| 10:17.45 | cryogen | where it seems unable to delete things in vista |
| 10:17.48 | sylvanaar | oh yeah |
| 10:17.54 | sylvanaar | no recyle bin |
| 10:17.55 | cryogen | they're all - |
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| 10:18.12 | sylvanaar | on vista64 |
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| 10:18.48 | Ominous | who had the google cleanup script? |
| 10:18.48 | cryogen | brr, so i actually have both embedded and disembedded |
| 10:18.58 | cryogen | Mikk: thats for that :) |
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| 10:18.58 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43603 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/AtlasLoot_BCInstances.toc: |
| 10:18.58 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:18.59 | CIA-22 | - Simp. Chinese update |
| 10:19.04 | cryogen | maybe i'll actually see improved load times now :) |
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| 10:19.10 | Mikk | hopefully yeah |
| 10:19.26 | Ominous | s/google/google cache wiki/ |
| 10:19.30 | cryogen | i'll turn off recycle bin in wua too |
| 10:19.44 | Mikk | Ominous: http://mikk.cjb.net/rewikify.awk |
| 10:21.13 | Sole | so Ive got an interesting bump to get over |
| 10:21.19 | Sole | Cockfight is all modular |
| 10:21.30 | Sole | the Health bar, mana bar modules are seperate |
| 10:21.30 | Mikk | Ominous: but read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rebuilding -- all of google has been converted but not pasted in |
| 10:21.44 | Sole | but they will both use the exact same code for finding their values |
| 10:21.49 | Ominous | ah k |
| 10:21.52 | Sole | Im just thinking of how to implement that |
| 10:22.16 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43604 10AtlasLoot/ (13 files in 6 dirs): |
| 10:22.16 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:22.16 | CIA-22 | - Set and PvP information split off into AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP load on demand module |
| 10:22.16 | CIA-22 | - Simp. Chinese update |
| 10:22.30 | Mikk | Sole: if(not alreadyloaded) do ....same code, with function defs and shit.... alreadyloaded=true end |
| 10:22.35 | Mikk | bigger file, same memory print |
| 10:22.53 | Mikk | but over-LoDing is a bit lol too tbfh |
| 10:23.32 | Sole | so you think I should have health and mana in the same module? :P |
| 10:24.37 | Sole | maybe I should explain to you what the purpose of Cockfight is |
| 10:25.07 | Sole | Cockfight is an arena opponent monitor - it tracks their health/mana/casts and a bunch of other neat shit |
| 10:25.41 | Sole | theres only a limited number of ways for me to detect opponents |
| 10:26.44 | Sole | targeting them, mouseover, scan party targets, and nameplates (haven't looked into this too much though) so it wouldnt make sense to repeat the same scanning function in each module |
| 10:26.51 | Sole | Im gonna do that in the core file |
| 10:29.14 | Sole | but then at the end of the parsing and all that I need to call UnitHealth(unit) for the health module and then UnitMana(unit) for mana and UnitDebuff(unit) for auras |
| 10:29.49 | Sole | ok nobody is listening |
| 10:30.00 | Sole | Im gonna go headbang somewhere else |
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| 10:34.43 | Kirkburn | Sole, to cheer you up, http://www.explosm.net/comics/958/ |
| 10:35.06 | Sole | and wtf Omnibus doesnt work and I cant find FAIAP anywhere |
| 10:35.08 | Sole | WATAF |
| 10:35.21 | Sole | Kirkburn: rofl |
| 10:36.02 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r43605 10Yata/Localization.lua: |
| 10:36.02 | CIA-22 | Yata: |
| 10:36.02 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW Localization |
| 10:36.03 | Undine | omnibus sucks :( |
| 10:36.55 | Undine | hmm, why doesn't drdamage work on bongos :( |
| 10:37.25 | winkiller | lol, WAU looks different every day :P |
| 10:39.43 | Sole | rofl |
| 10:40.36 | Sole | taken from the iTuns end user license agreement: You also agree that you will not use these products for the development of, design, manufacture or production of missiles, or nuclear, chemical or biological weapons." |
| 10:40.41 | Sole | iTunes* |
| 10:40.48 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:40.57 | Fisker- | all US license agreements have that basically |
| 10:41.07 | Sole | ... |
| 10:41.24 | Fisker- | Dell even have/had a "Will this be used for developement of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons?" thingy |
| 10:41.45 | Sole | Im going to play a high frequency signal through my iTunes to set off a rocket |
| 10:41.53 | Sole | I do that every day |
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| 10:42.09 | Fisker- | I'm going to use my Dell XPS laptop to send of a mark 9 tactical nuke behind a stargate |
| 10:42.11 | Fisker- | JUST LIKE IN THE SERIES |
| 10:42.47 | [gk]Hotphoenix | because if your developing weapons secretly you really are going to care about a licence^^ |
| 10:43.09 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar |
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| 10:43.19 | Fisker- | does the ad mean we can now get to keep using WAU 1.x? :) |
| 10:44.32 | sylvanaar | i guess, idk wau2 is not ready yet |
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| 10:47.00 | Sole | < been using wau2 for the past week and loving it |
| 10:47.08 | Sole | its a lot funkier than wau |
| 10:47.35 | sylvanaar | i have used it, its nice |
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| 10:50.42 | Fisker- | i don't like java! |
| 10:50.50 | sylvanaar | me either |
| 10:50.56 | sylvanaar | ok so |
| 10:51.31 | sylvanaar | there is going to be a new "stable" flag on addons soon |
| 10:51.49 | sylvanaar | so i need a new decoration for version numbers |
| 10:51.57 | Saint-N | i'd prefer descriptions that dont suck ;P |
| 10:52.02 | Saint-N | and maybe a screen shot ;P |
| 10:52.11 | Fisker- | I don't think it's that easily enforced if it were to get there |
| 10:52.38 | sylvanaar | right now i have -40000, +40000, ?40000 |
| 10:52.49 | Fisker- | perhaps rather some kind of system incorporating tags and branches |
| 10:53.04 | sylvanaar | for the 3 externals states |
| 10:53.20 | sylvanaar | there are 3 stability states too |
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| 10:53.45 | sylvanaar | its so gay there are 24 update scenerios |
| 10:54.08 | Saint-N | so ckk is 23 of them, whats the 24th? |
| 10:54.10 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 10:54.55 | sylvanaar | local externals: +-? stable: +-? -> remote externals: +- stable: +- |
| 10:55.35 | sylvanaar | 6x4 |
| 10:56.18 | Fisker- | http://salg.tdc.dk/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/TDC-Privat-Site/da_DK/-/DKK/ViewProductDetail-Start;sid=cE_pPiEnS4bpPmCmmrMplmgFm5FnF7A5rQYXar089NsmRaWzvzR4IPxu?ProductUUID=vycKamdMVKwAAAD_NzMJBLvg&CatalogCategoryID=dU4KamdMOh8AAAD8oU5hncfb&JumpTo=Browse |
| 10:56.18 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:56.26 | sylvanaar | neat |
| 10:56.27 | Fisker- | 32K! |
| 10:56.29 | vodrin | thats a nice url |
| 10:56.33 | Fisker- | only ~100$ |
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| 10:58.46 | Fisker- | come on |
| 10:58.51 | Fisker- | 32k storage device |
| 10:58.53 | Fisker- | 100$ |
| 10:58.56 | sylvanaar | so should i use +40000+, +40000-, +40000? |
| 10:58.57 | Fisker- | it's cheap! |
| 11:00.01 | sylvanaar | or +40000, +40000*, +40000? |
| 11:00.54 | sylvanaar | i like asterisk |
| 11:01.03 | Fisker- | what was the different ones again? :P |
| 11:01.44 | sylvanaar | +40000 is the with externals 40000 version |
| 11:01.53 | sylvanaar | then the trailers are the stability |
| 11:02.10 | sylvanaar | both sets go stable, unstable, unknown |
| 11:02.31 | Fisker- | Yeah i think asterisk is most logical |
| 11:02.48 | sylvanaar | the ? shouldnt really be seen much |
| 11:03.26 | sylvanaar | yeah, asterisk works |
| 11:06.04 | Fisker- | DAMNIT |
| 11:06.11 | Fisker- | Can't login to the forum |
| 11:06.18 | Fisker- | and i'm missing out on lots of trolling |
| 11:10.35 | [gk]Hotphoenix | sylvanaar wouldn't colours be suited to displaying info in that fashion? |
| 11:11.01 | Fisker- | could be a great idea |
| 11:13.23 | kaiden | they need to start merging low population servers :( |
| 11:14.36 | sylvanaar | yeah, you'd think that, but color is a big visual irritant if it isnt used right |
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| 11:15.58 | Fisker- | options :P |
| 11:17.02 | sylvanaar | reality is - you dont need to know that info all the time |
| 11:17.23 | sylvanaar | but you dont want to hide it |
| 11:18.48 | sylvanaar | the best idea i had was to take the users's preference for default, and color everything which was non-default |
| 11:19.02 | sylvanaar | but thats too confusing for people |
| 11:19.34 | sylvanaar | atm, the long version number is in to tooltip |
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| 11:26.00 | sylvanaar | oh lord which has precedence stability or externals |
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| 11:26.37 | Thiana | Is there a way to move a secure unit frame when entering combat? ie, have it's out of combat position in the top left corner and it's in combat one center screen |
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| 11:26.50 | sylvanaar | with your mouse |
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| 11:27.06 | Thiana | sylvanaar, I mean with the state stuff :-P |
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| 11:27.23 | JoshBorke | Thiana: yes |
| 11:27.38 | sylvanaar | i think you get an event just before combat you can move it |
| 11:27.42 | JoshBorke | Thiana: you can SetPoint during PEC |
| 11:27.50 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r43606 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: Added class colors and icon. Corrected bug when entering combat while casting. |
| 11:27.58 | Neebler | sylvanaar, feature request in Prat to be able to outline the text. Perhaps in Module "Formatting - font size - text enchancements" |
| 11:28.07 | Neebler | just like how you can using DogTag |
| 11:28.16 | Thiana | JoshBorke, Perfect. Thanks :) |
| 11:28.46 | sylvanaar | i was going to make a dogtag module for prat at one point |
| 11:28.51 | sylvanaar | hrm |
| 11:29.30 | Neebler | I was just messing around with my pitbull unitframes and outlining all the text to make it more visable, and wanted to do the same with prat |
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| 11:33.22 | Neebler | hmm, dunno if I like the way I setup the unitframes, seem kinda small now. Http://neebler.tetro.net/new_unitframes.jpg |
| 11:34.03 | evl | Buttons are 1999 |
| 11:34.32 | Neebler | I'm a rogue, I use them for looking at cooldowns |
| 11:34.33 | evl | *are so |
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| 11:34.43 | Neebler | I dont enjoy looking at cooldown bars |
| 11:34.44 | [Ammo] | haha, rogues only need 1 macro |
| 11:34.47 | evl | Then I might have something for you here in my sack of ui secretz! |
| 11:34.59 | evl | http://www.internetfriendsforever.com/screenshots/blend_ui.jpg |
| 11:35.00 | evl | proper rogue UI! |
| 11:35.07 | evl | clos up ? "dead" : "alive" |
| 11:35.09 | evl | :D |
| 11:35.21 | Neebler | proper cockpit of uglyness |
| 11:35.43 | evl | why not just replace all your fugly buttons with one simple cooldown mod |
| 11:35.59 | Neebler | wahhh? my buttons aren't fugly |
| 11:36.12 | evl | but you won't have to scan them all to find what's up or not |
| 11:36.22 | evl | if it's not in the cd addon list it's there and you can use it, so much simpler |
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| 11:41.11 | flexom | sylvanaar: !40000 ^^ |
| 11:41.40 | sylvanaar | Neebler Pitbull_Prat has outlined fonts |
| 11:42.11 | flexom | bah, nvm me, just woke up... |
| 11:42.42 | Neebler | ah, but I dont want my chat in a bubble |
| 11:44.54 | Thiana | JoshBorke: PEC doesnt seem to fire unless you're entering *melee*. ie, spells are ignored for entering combat :( |
| 11:46.44 | Nargiddley | Thiana, you want PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED for entering combat |
| 11:46.47 | sylvanaar | that explains ALOT |
| 11:47.10 | Thiana | Nargiddley, Thanks. |
| 11:47.15 | JoshBorke | ah, yea, my bad |
| 11:48.36 | Trancer | veiled noble topaz are pretty amazing |
| 11:52.48 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r43607 10ArkInventory/ (7 files): |
| 11:52.48 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 11:52.48 | CIA-22 | - 2.06 |
| 11:54.03 | Undine | i like useful commit comments :) |
| 11:55.23 | [Ammo] | he has never had a single useful commit note |
| 11:55.27 | [Ammo] | he uses the svn as a release platform |
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| 12:00.56 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43608 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 12:00.56 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 12:00.56 | CIA-22 | - small adjustment to the new summary feature |
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| 12:01.23 | evl | Athou: please make waterfall optional, look at how Grid does it, can't be more than 3-4 lines of extra code |
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| 12:04.19 | Athou | ok I will, but you won't be able to config anything |
| 12:04.46 | evl | that's alright |
| 12:05.05 | evl | ./ace enable Waterfall-1.0; /config; /ace disable Waterfall-1.0 |
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| 12:12.59 | Azurewrath | mhm nice.. i was just looking for a decent flashlight.. and i found a LED Upgrade for MagLites with 550 lumen. ;) |
| 12:13.20 | Sole | is there a guide anywhere around to changing your character's race? |
| 12:13.27 | Sole | I remember model swapping my weps a long time ago |
| 12:13.32 | Sole | but I cant remember that now |
| 12:15.02 | cnc|work | 3 hours 16 minutes, hmmmm |
| 12:15.55 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43609 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/: |
| 12:15.55 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 12:15.55 | CIA-22 | - Setting tsvn:logtemplate |
| 12:15.58 | JoshBorke | Sole: illegal |
| 12:16.04 | sylvanaar | im not sure you can outline the chat window font |
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| 12:16.11 | Sole | JoshBorke: really is it now? |
| 12:16.20 | JoshBorke | you can't change in game models |
| 12:16.21 | Sole | JoshBorke: so my guildy cant change his tauren to a troll? |
| 12:16.30 | Sole | even if its just on his end? |
| 12:16.41 | JoshBorke | no because then you'd theoretically have an advantage over someone else |
| 12:16.50 | Sole | did they remove the capability to do it? |
| 12:16.52 | JoshBorke | if you can change the player model you can change other player models |
| 12:16.53 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 12:17.03 | Sole | hmm |
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| 12:17.18 | JoshBorke | reroll imo ;-P |
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| 12:18.03 | eXemplar | or you can remove doors |
| 12:18.04 | eXemplar | etc |
| 12:18.06 | Sole | hes a tauren who has some of the best shaman gear in the game |
| 12:18.08 | kaiden | also it's not as simple as some people think.. because replacing 1 player model with another you ahve to match up all the hair pieces as well |
| 12:18.14 | Sole | I dont think rerolling is an option |
| 12:18.22 | kaiden | Sole, then get used to it |
| 12:18.31 | Sole | its not for me |
| 12:18.36 | kaiden | trolls are ugly anyways :P |
| 12:18.42 | Sole | dude |
| 12:18.45 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43610 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 12:18.45 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 12:18.45 | CIA-22 | - Waterfall-1.0 is not required anymore but you won't be able to config anything |
| 12:18.48 | Sole | trolls are straight up G |
| 12:18.50 | JoshBorke | repeat after me: get over it |
| 12:19.04 | Sole | TROLLS ARE REAL YO |
| 12:19.07 | Sole | REPEAT THAT |
| 12:19.11 | Athou | evl: try that |
| 12:19.20 | evl | thanks mate |
| 12:19.25 | kaiden | Sole, i'd watch myself if i were you, josh just might eat you |
| 12:20.17 | sylvanaar | oh sorry, i just had the background black |
| 12:20.23 | Sole | well |
| 12:20.27 | Sole | your warnings are fruitless |
| 12:20.41 | Sole | because I KNOW people who've done it! AH AH HA |
| 12:22.09 | eXemplar | in da butt ? |
| 12:22.18 | eXemplar | I said what, what. |
| 12:22.40 | kaiden | haha exemplar |
| 12:22.45 | kaiden | someones been watching youtube :P |
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| 12:28.38 | Morghus | sedatedChipmunk: When doing Open All ( using BulkMail2 ) my entire game freeze indefinately. |
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| 12:39.33 | Wobin_ | oh god |
| 12:39.34 | Wobin_ | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=240 |
| 12:40.23 | break19 | worms = tehgood |
| 12:40.33 | vithos | sedatedChipmunk: also, just Take Cash still hangs, BulkMail2Inbox r43450 |
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| 12:44.07 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: wasnt oRA2 invite keyword supposed to work when i am not grouped? |
| 12:44.23 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: it does but not with /rakeyword |
| 12:44.24 | [Ammo] | only via the menu |
| 12:44.31 | [Ammo] | or I should say: it should |
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| 12:44.46 | nevcairiel | well i had a keyword set |
| 12:44.47 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 12:44.50 | nevcairiel | it works when i am in a raid |
| 12:44.56 | nevcairiel | but it didnt invite when i was ungrouped |
| 12:45.21 | [Ammo] | dunno |
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| 12:45.45 | [Ammo] | probably only works if you don't run oRA load |
| 12:45.46 | [Ammo] | lod |
| 12:46.00 | [Ammo] | manually click oRA2 plugin |
| 12:46.04 | [Ammo] | it should work after that I think |
| 12:46.25 | vithos | sedatedChipmunk: also, Take All only takes one thing |
| 12:46.29 | nevcairiel | i dont run LoD |
| 12:46.37 | nevcairiel | its just in that no-raid-standby mode |
| 12:46.39 | [Ammo] | still click the plugin |
| 12:46.49 | [Ammo] | when the icon is purple it should work |
| 12:47.03 | nevcairiel | i know it works then |
| 12:47.09 | [Ammo] | well that's how it works |
| 12:47.15 | [Ammo] | it used to not even work when you were not in a riad |
| 12:47.20 | [Ammo] | now it forms raids too |
| 12:47.20 | nevcairiel | but i thought the invite module was supposed to work always, since its never greyed out |
| 12:47.49 | [Ammo] | click plugin for now, ask vhaarr later :) |
| 12:50.21 | vhaarr | only the guild invites are supposed to work |
| 12:50.26 | vhaarr | not the keyword |
| 12:50.40 | nevcairiel | ah. |
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| 12:54.44 | Bayi | hi |
| 12:54.48 | Josh_Borke | hi |
| 12:55.08 | Bayi | how can i track a functions cpu usage ? |
| 12:56.48 | Bayi | i tried it with some profiling mods ( http://bayi.hu/profiling ), but they are monitoring only total cpu /memory usage of a mod |
| 12:59.50 | [Ammo] | Bayi: try Expo |
| 12:59.54 | [Ammo] | and point it to the addons namespace |
| 12:59.56 | [Ammo] | with the profiling config |
| 13:00.51 | Bayi | ty will try it |
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| 13:06.42 | Bayi | whoa, thnx this is amazing :) |
| 13:07.45 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 13:07.48 | [Ammo] | I knew you'd like it |
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| 13:10.50 | Bayi | i found the trouble making function |
| 13:13.46 | cryogen | Mikk: im properly disembedded now! :) |
| 13:13.54 | cryogen | tested it when i went home for lunch |
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| 13:16.31 | Kirkburn | Btw, we have silently enabled anonymous editing on WoWWiki |
| 13:17.14 | krka | it's not silent if you mention it here |
| 13:17.33 | Kirkburn | Silently for everyone else then ^^ |
| 13:17.41 | Kirkburn | Got similar captcha stuff to wowace |
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| 13:19.49 | Saint-N | goes and adds a wiki entry about kirkburn and his perchance for drunked marmosets |
| 13:22.57 | Kirkburn | Mmm, marmosets |
| 13:23.40 | Saint-N | marmoset is such an awesome word |
| 13:23.54 | Saint-N | kinna like wombat |
| 13:27.01 | GnancyWK | smarmoset? |
| 13:27.33 | Matrix110 | ~Kirkburn |
| 13:27.34 | purl | Author of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens. |
| 13:27.46 | Matrix110 | <3 Kittens aswell |
| 13:28.58 | Neebler | BigNoodleTilting > all fonts! |
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| 13:46.10 | Kirkburn | I retract my earlier statement that we have silently enabled anonymous editing on WoWWiki - so silently, in fact, that it doesn't work :P |
| 13:46.19 | cnc|work | ~seen Antiarc |
| 13:46.43 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (11h 55m 18s) #wowace (11h 55m 18s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 6h 38m 58s, last said: 'What would cause a metatable to get unset?'. |
| 13:48.00 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r43611 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: |
| 13:48.00 | CIA-22 | oRA2: Leader/Invite: |
| 13:48.00 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.00 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.23 | vhaarr | (you still have to manually enable oRA2 to get keyword invites working before a raid group has been formed) |
| 13:49.16 | break19 | Matrix110: i dont like kittens, personally.. not enough meat, ya gotta kill too many of em for the stew.. |
| 13:49.26 | evl | Lol |
| 13:49.32 | evl | a friend of mine just told me IF was bugged |
| 13:49.33 | cnc|work | break19, u can also cut ur leg off for a good stew :) |
| 13:49.36 | evl | and gnomes raided from the ceiling |
| 13:49.39 | evl | he's getting a fraps of it |
| 13:49.43 | evl | rained* |
| 13:49.43 | break19 | cnc|work: only twice tho.. |
| 13:49.55 | cnc|work | break19, there are also other extremities to cut off |
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| 13:50.06 | break19 | yea, but I need tho to be able to eat. |
| 13:50.07 | cnc|work | which give equaly good stews |
| 13:50.10 | break19 | those* |
| 13:50.25 | cnc|work | u can eat without the extremity i'm talking about :) |
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| 13:50.54 | break19 | ah, well.. I need *that* one to keep the wife happy |
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| 13:51.31 | break19 | besides.. there's not enough meat there |
| 13:51.37 | break19 | uhh, I didnt mean to say that :p |
| 13:51.44 | cnc|work | owned :) |
| 13:51.52 | kenlyric | epic wang |
| 13:51.57 | break19 | lol |
| 13:52.13 | kebinusan | heh, the sex toy or baby toy quiz: http://www.homemade-sex-toys.com/quiz1/ |
| 13:52.21 | break19 | so, if its purple.. does that mean its epic? cuz I can make it purple quite easily. |
| 13:52.44 | sbu | lol kebinusan |
| 13:53.11 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r43612 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/FontSize.lua: Prat: FontSize (Should be renamed to just font) will let you toggle outlining and drop shadow color of the chat frame font. |
| 13:53.40 | cnc|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:54.31 | break19 | errrrr... aint the amount of meat, it's how well you marinate it |
| 13:55.08 | cnc|work | you can't miranite small things as good as big things :) |
| 13:55.27 | break19 | sure ya can. just takes a little skill |
| 13:55.38 | break19 | oo, little was a bad word choice.. |
| 13:55.46 | cnc|work | indeed hehe |
| 13:55.53 | cnc|work | remove the a and u got a perfect sentence |
| 13:56.01 | cnc|work | sure ya can. just takes little skill :) |
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| 13:56.30 | Neebler | sylvanaar <3 |
| 13:56.44 | cnc|work | break19, tnx for the laugh :p i'm damn bored in this stupid callcenter :) |
| 13:56.50 | break19 | :) |
| 13:56.57 | break19 | self-deprecation ftw :p |
| 13:57.31 | break19 | tired of people laughin at ya, and want to laugh with ya instead? tell em all you got a tiny pee pee. :p |
| 13:57.49 | cnc|work | Its probably the truth you're telling them though |
| 13:58.02 | cnc|work | and why do most irritating irc clients advertise on quit, its irritating |
| 13:58.06 | break19 | there's always a bit of truth in good comedy :p |
| 13:58.24 | cnc|work | how much is a bit ? (a) |
| 13:58.33 | break19 | just a little |
| 13:58.36 | break19 | damnit! |
| 14:00.07 | Xuerian | 'Morning ladies. |
| 14:02.52 | Kirkburn | Mikk, ping for needing you on #wowwiki |
| 14:04.49 | Chompers | i'm doing the dragonmaw race quests |
| 14:04.56 | yacoob | hm |
| 14:04.59 | Chompers | trying to beat mulverick, any tips ? |
| 14:05.08 | yacoob | I've just realized that there's FOURTH spec for warlocks |
| 14:05.09 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43613 10beql/ (beql.lua questlog.lua tooltip.lua tracker.lua): |
| 14:05.09 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 14:05.09 | CIA-22 | - Removed unneded Update functions |
| 14:05.09 | CIA-22 | - Added check for tooltip code to only update if mouse is over the frame |
| 14:05.10 | CIA-22 | - Code optimization |
| 14:05.13 | yacoob | parental lock |
| 14:05.14 | yacoob | 8) |
| 14:05.18 | vodrin | do not look into lazer beams with remaining eye |
| 14:06.46 | abbat_w | button:SetAttribute("macrotext2", "/target "..name.."\n/cast Polymorph(Rank 1)\n/targetlasttarget") |
| 14:07.06 | abbat_w | should i quote "(" and ")" in macro text? |
| 14:07.08 | abbat_w | like |
| 14:07.17 | abbat_w | button:SetAttribute("macrotext2", "/target "..name.."\n/cast Polymorph\(Rank 1\)\n/targetlasttarget") |
| 14:07.22 | abbat_w | or it's not need? |
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| 14:11.01 | vodrin | no need if you are casting max rank |
| 14:12.10 | abbat_w | vordin, i need to cast Polymorph(Rank 1) |
| 14:12.31 | abbat_w | but i don't know lua and ask about quoting symbols "(" and ")" |
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| 14:14.29 | abbat_w | hhmm.... |
| 14:14.45 | abbat_w | guys, any actions bars mod allow me to define attributes? |
| 14:15.09 | abbat_w | i mean button:SetAttriute() for selected button |
| 14:16.19 | abbat_w | If not, can i make plugin maybe for bt3 which define setattribute() for me? |
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| 14:19.06 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43614 10/branches/Grid/: Grid: created branch folder |
| 14:19.17 | abbat_w | neoGrid? |
| 14:19.18 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43615 10Grid/: Grid: created branch folder |
| 14:19.37 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43616 10Grid/Grid/: Grid: Branch to add pet support to Grid |
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| 14:20.58 | abbat_w | hmm... playing with button:SetAttribute() allow to make very very custom action bars ;) |
| 14:20.59 | Undine | yay, pet support |
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| 14:23.04 | sbu | lol kebinusan |
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| 14:23.07 | sbu | errr fc |
| 14:23.18 | sbu | mh |
| 14:23.22 | sbu | damn irc window |
| 14:23.33 | Josh_Borke | hi cladhaire_w_ |
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| 14:25.03 | abbat_w | Guys, can you give me please link to good tutorial about secure frames with frame attribute description? |
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| 14:26.18 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43617 10Grid/Grid/ (10 files): |
| 14:26.18 | CIA-22 | Grid/branch: |
| 14:26.18 | CIA-22 | _ add support for pet Secure template headers. |
| 14:26.18 | CIA-22 | _ add support for Secure template headers columns related attributes. |
| 14:26.34 | abbat_w | yep |
| 14:26.54 | abbat_w | add please documentation for secure templates in branch ;) |
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| 14:37.59 | lolinternet | fuck |
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| 14:38.05 | lolinternet | i just had a brilliant idea |
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| 14:42.01 | xb95 | uh, bullshit, wowaceupdater has ads now? what the fuck |
| 14:42.09 | xb95 | I will pay monthly for no ads |
| 14:42.15 | deltron | lol |
| 14:42.15 | xb95 | $5/month, no ads, quality bandwidth |
| 14:42.22 | xb95 | you think I'm kidding |
| 14:42.26 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r43618 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Bugfix for people without SharedMediaLib. |
| 14:42.58 | deltron | that'd be more revenue than banner ads |
| 14:43.02 | xb95 | yes it would |
| 14:43.19 | xb95 | but when you figure only 1 in 100 people would pay for it, the revenue probably works out to about the same |
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| 14:43.28 | deltron | true |
| 14:45.56 | dodgizzla | Hm, I don't care. If the ads help to keep up with the costs, then I'm all for it :o |
| 14:46.08 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: you forgot your brilliant idea, didn't you? |
| 14:46.14 | Josh_Borke | dodgizzla: no one clicks on the ads |
| 14:46.34 | dodgizzla | But lately I have the feeling that WAU takes longer to start because it's loading the ads.. talk about multi threading :D |
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| 14:47.06 | dodgizzla | Josh_Borke: Then the message "You should backup your addons now" should be changed into "FFS click the ad!" |
| 14:48.37 | physos | In 1.9.27 it has an explnatory message already before loading the ad. |
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| 14:49.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:46] <Josh_Borke> sag_ich_nicht: you forgot your brilliant idea, didn't you? <--no |
| 14:49.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it was concerning my raid and how the groups will be made up |
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| 14:52.57 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r43619 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua: |
| 14:52.57 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 14:52.57 | CIA-22 | - Large structural changes, should yield in small memory and performance improvements |
| 14:52.57 | CIA-22 | - Inspect Value Frame doesn't overlap the PvP frame anymore |
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| 14:56.38 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: oh good :-) |
| 14:57.45 | cnc|work | 33 minutes ! |
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| 15:04.07 | cnc|work | 26 minutes ! |
| 15:04.25 | cryogen | until? |
| 15:04.34 | cnc|work | i'm at work, what u think ? |
| 15:04.45 | cryogen | mmmm, coffetime! |
| 15:05.29 | cnc|work | that too |
| 15:05.32 | cnc|work | 25 minutes !ç |
| 15:05.50 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r43620 10ItemValue_DrDamage/ (. Class_DrDamageSet.lua): |
| 15:05.50 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 15:05.50 | CIA-22 | - Non-generic spelldamage should now be valued correctly again |
| 15:05.54 | cryogen | hour and a half here :( |
| 15:13.35 | cnc|work | 17 minutes !! :) |
| 15:13.50 | cnc|work | btw cryogen, do u post on EJ forums ? think I saw u post ther before ? |
| 15:14.02 | cryogen | nope |
| 15:14.08 | cryogen | this is my irc name and not my game name :) |
| 15:14.34 | cnc|work | same here hehe |
| 15:14.44 | cnc|work | but still I'm pretty sure I saw someone with a name like u post :p |
| 15:14.55 | cryogen | probably :) |
| 15:15.18 | Tornhoof | heh i actually read "my gang name" :/ |
| 15:15.39 | ccKep | hmhmhm... violation broken? (doesn't record/show data for me, and header's are all grey) |
| 15:16.14 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r43621 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 15:16.14 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 15:16.14 | CIA-22 | - Option to only show price when a modifier key is held |
| 15:16.14 | CIA-22 | - When using modifier to show price, items with no known price show "Unknown sell price" in the tooltip |
| 15:16.23 | CIA-22 | 03fleetfoot * r43622 10Nudge/ (Nudge.lua Nudge.toc embeds.xml): |
| 15:16.23 | CIA-22 | Nudge |
| 15:16.23 | CIA-22 | - Added embeds |
| 15:16.23 | CIA-22 | - Minor cleanups of the code. |
| 15:16.45 | cnc|work | 14 minutes ! |
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| 15:18.13 | CIA-22 | 03fleetfoot * r43623 10Fudge/Fudge.lua: |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-22 | Fudge: |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-22 | - Removed dead code. |
| 15:18.19 | cnc|work | 12 minutes ! |
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| 15:20.03 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r43624 10XLoot/localization.deDE.lua: XLoot: Updated deDE translation (Thanks to omegasnow) |
| 15:20.38 | cnc|work | 10 ! |
| 15:20.55 | deltron | work over in 10? |
| 15:21.25 | cnc|work | ye |
| 15:21.26 | Josh_Borke | wow, 10 hours? why would anyone count down that far away |
| 15:21.26 | cnc|work | 9 ! |
| 15:21.33 | Josh_Borke | but you just said 10 |
| 15:21.38 | cnc|work | minutes ;) |
| 15:21.43 | deltron | man |
| 15:21.55 | deltron | supposedly the next unreal tournament is a ps3 exclusive :/ |
| 15:22.03 | cnc|work | heh |
| 15:22.06 | cnc|work | PC ftw |
| 15:22.12 | cnc|work | at least till vista is standarized |
| 15:22.14 | cnc|work | got to hate DRM |
| 15:22.28 | CIA-22 | 03fleetfoot * r43625 10Fudge/embeds.xml: |
| 15:22.28 | CIA-22 | Fudge: |
| 15:22.28 | CIA-22 | - L -> l |
| 15:22.33 | cnc|work | 8 ! |
| 15:23.04 | CIA-22 | 03fleetfoot * r43626 10Nudge/embeds.xml: |
| 15:23.05 | CIA-22 | Nudge: |
| 15:23.05 | CIA-22 | - L -> l |
| 15:23.32 | durcyn | i wonder if he knows we can see those amazing commit messages |
| 15:23.45 | Tornhoof | hmm deltron? |
| 15:23.53 | Tornhoof | ut2007 (aka ut3) will be on pc too |
| 15:23.59 | CIA-22 | 03fleetfoot * r43627 10LittleTrouble/ (LittleTrouble.toc embeds.xml): |
| 15:23.59 | CIA-22 | LittleTrouble |
| 15:23.59 | CIA-22 | - Added embeds |
| 15:24.10 | cnc|work | someone slap fleetfoot |
| 15:24.12 | deltron | Tornhoof: I hope heh |
| 15:24.15 | cnc|work | CIA spam sucks |
| 15:24.22 | cnc|work | 6 ! |
| 15:24.27 | Tornhoof | vista only probably tough, due to dx 10 |
| 15:24.44 | deltron | that's fine with me, I built my rig around dx 10 :P |
| 15:25.28 | Tornhoof | we should hang you higher for installing vista |
| 15:25.30 | cnc|work | I totaly hate vista |
| 15:25.39 | deltron | haha |
| 15:25.45 | deltron | :( |
| 15:25.54 | deltron | xp didn't like my raid for some reason |
| 15:25.57 | cnc|work | btw, anyone knows if wine is gonna implent dx10 games soon ? |
| 15:26.06 | cnc|work | or does it already ? |
| 15:26.08 | deltron | cnc|work: couple years I'm sure :P |
| 15:26.16 | cnc|work | deltron, doubt that |
| 15:26.16 | deltron | not many dx10 stuff out yet |
| 15:26.24 | cnc|work | deltron, whats the difference with dx9 anyway ? |
| 15:26.34 | cnc|work | except the name, and more bugs & security holes |
| 15:26.35 | Tornhoof | completely different architecture |
| 15:26.35 | deltron | I'd rather game on linux to be honest |
| 15:26.45 | cnc|work | deltron, I'd rather do anything on linux tbh |
| 15:26.51 | cnc|work | deltron |
| 15:26.58 | cnc|work | read about content protection on vista already ? |
| 15:27.03 | CIA-22 | 03mcc * r43628 10ArkInventory/Locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 15:27.03 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 15:27.03 | CIA-22 | - update Chinese Traditional translation to newer version. |
| 15:27.03 | deltron | yeah |
| 15:27.09 | deltron | 3 |
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| 15:28.12 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r43629 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 15:28.12 | CIA-22 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 15:28.12 | CIA-22 | - Added "IGNOREARMOR" bonusname and pattern |
| 15:28.24 | cnc|work | deltron, thats enough reasons to not use vista tbh |
| 15:28.34 | cnc|work | that'll be a 20% performance hit, at the very least |
| 15:28.40 | cnc|work | and its ridiculous in the first place |
| 15:28.43 | cnc|work | and irritating |
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| 15:28.49 | cnc|work | and microsoft sucks in the first place |
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| 15:29.40 | cnc|work | time to go |
| 15:29.45 | cnc|work | 0 seconds |
| 15:29.47 | cnc|work | ! |
| 15:29.49 | vodrin | sylvanaar; any chance of having the prat font settings (shadow etc.) apply to editbox also |
| 15:29.51 | deltron | cya |
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| 15:42.26 | Xuerian | If the PS3 is getting the time-exclusive version of UT3 (Yeah, they get it sooner, but not only), why can't they just make a oGL version instead of dx10? |
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| 15:43.12 | Xuerian | It's hard to see them breaking the linux friendly tradition now |
| 15:44.01 | vodrin | because the engine isn't just for ut3 / ps3 |
| 15:44.12 | vodrin | they want to flog it as middleware asap |
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| 15:45.07 | Xuerian | So if UE(3?) is portable over both PS3's graphics toolkit and DX10, why not ogl? |
| 15:45.18 | Xuerian | Is it UE3 or UE4... |
| 15:45.42 | vodrin | ue3 / ut4 isn't it ? |
| 15:46.28 | Xuerian | I think it's UE3 behind UT3, according to http://www.unrealtechnology.com/html/technology/ue30.shtml |
| 15:46.54 | Xuerian | DirectX9-equipped PCs <--- win |
| 15:47.15 | Antiarc|Work | Morning all |
| 15:48.05 | Xuerian | 'mornin. |
| 15:48.07 | Matrix110 | Because they prolly get butloads of $$$ for making it Vista exclusive i would say :P |
| 15:48.14 | Xuerian | Matrix110: No |
| 15:48.43 | Xuerian | Matrix110: Seeing as UT3 is already a time-exclusive PS3 game, that's impossible |
| 15:48.57 | Xuerian | Or just stupid |
| 15:49.09 | deltron | it'll probably be vista exclusive |
| 15:49.22 | Xuerian | http://www.unrealtechnology.com/html/technology/ue30.shtml <-- read dammit |
| 15:49.23 | Xuerian | >_< |
| 15:50.12 | Matrix110 | Vista exclusive as in not working on Windows XP i mean and Xuerian the ENGINE is capable of working on XP but that doesnt mean they use the core Engine in UT3 and not make it using DX10 effects making it not working on XP |
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| 15:50.55 | Rasd | good evening people |
| 15:51.13 | Matrix110 | But seeing that Microsoft bringts Gears of Wars for XP aswell we can hope :P |
| 15:51.15 | Xuerian | Matrix110: So they'd make the whole game on a engine blatantly (it's in the first line on the tech page!) designed to work on DX9, then on top of that (seeing as it includes tons of shader effects in itself), add a handful of DX10 effects in and bump it up to requiring DX10 and therefor vista? |
| 15:51.32 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r43630 10Necronomicon2/ (Locales/koKR.lua Necronomicon2.toc): Necronomicon2 - add koKR locals |
| 15:51.38 | Rasd | im trying to use loggerhead. But i cant find any commands for it. How can i set it to wich areas to log and how to change log range ? |
| 15:51.50 | Xuerian | Matrix110: I suppose they could but it really doesn't make sense, they know who their pc audience is |
| 15:53.08 | Rasd | no one can answer about loggerhead ? |
| 15:53.22 | deltron | no clue what it is -_- |
| 15:53.27 | vithos | Rasd: well, when i hid the fubar icon loggerhead didn't work for me. |
| 15:53.35 | vithos | Rasd: the icon has a menu with options |
| 15:53.44 | Xuerian | Rasd: Not all developers are around all the time (if any of the time) :P |
| 15:53.46 | Rasd | i did never hide it i did not even get the icon from start when i installed it xD |
| 15:54.10 | vithos | Rasd: do you use fubar? |
| 15:54.17 | Rasd | nope |
| 15:54.22 | Xuerian | Doesn't have to |
| 15:54.30 | Rasd | and my gm is spanking me because i forgot combatlog each raid :D |
| 15:54.33 | Xuerian | FubarPlugin will place it on the minimap if he doesn't |
| 15:54.34 | alext | for vista users |
| 15:54.42 | alext | upgrade to beta nvidia drivers |
| 15:55.10 | alext | you will be happy |
| 15:55.10 | Rasd | i use xp still |
| 15:55.10 | alext | its like 162.66 |
| 15:55.11 | alext | or somethin |
| 15:55.11 | alext | released july 11th |
| 15:55.11 | alext | beta |
| 15:55.11 | vithos | yeah it should work as a minimap icon, let me login and see if i can find other ways to get to the options |
| 15:55.11 | alext | some fixes for WOW low frame rates in vista |
| 15:55.17 | Rasd | now any way to make the icon come ? |
| 15:55.28 | cryogen | alext: anything for ati? :p |
| 15:55.30 | Xuerian | alext: Change that to "ATI" and "Linux" and I'll be a happy camper |
| 15:55.32 | alext | i dunno ;] |
| 15:55.35 | Xuerian | Rasd: Rub it just right |
| 15:55.39 | alext | brb |
| 15:56.24 | Xuerian | Rasd: If Loggerhead is enabled and loaded it should automatically stick it's icon wherever it's going to end up. If you have fubar, right click and look through the plugins list to make sure it's not disabled for some reason |
| 15:56.28 | Rasd | i have ora2,omen and saraidframes installed thats the only addons. I moved on all icons and there was no loggerhead below any of them |
| 15:56.42 | Rasd | and when i check oras list it says its enabled |
| 15:57.09 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: ping |
| 15:58.21 | vithos | Rasd: loggerhead doesn't seem to register any chat commands as far as i can tell |
| 15:58.32 | Rasd | hm ok |
| 15:58.33 | Dustwhisper | You can hack most vista exclusive games to run on XP |
| 15:58.34 | vithos | Rasd: do you have "show lua errors" enabled? |
| 15:58.38 | Dustwhisper | atleast the current ones |
| 15:58.43 | Dustwhisper | such as halo2 |
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| 15:58.45 | Rasd | show lua errors is ? =) |
| 15:59.14 | vithos | Rasd: it's on the first page of interface options |
| 15:59.57 | vithos | "Display Lua Errors" rather |
| 16:00.03 | Matrix110 | (17:58:38) (Dustwhisper) You can hack most vista exclusive games to run on XP <---only the ones not using DX10 DX10 games currently cant be run |
| 16:00.09 | Dustwhisper | aye |
| 16:00.11 | Dustwhisper | well |
| 16:00.16 | Dustwhisper | aslong as they dont use dx10features |
| 16:00.33 | Matrix110 | But well the games that you can hack suck totally anyway |
| 16:00.37 | Matrix110 | Halo2 and Shadowrun |
| 16:00.38 | Rasd | no i did not have lua enabled vithos |
| 16:00.43 | Rasd | do i need to have it enabled ? |
| 16:00.46 | deltron | lol @ shadowrun |
| 16:00.48 | Matrix110 | the 2nd one is the worst converted game ive ever seen |
| 16:00.58 | deltron | good god shadowrun is terrible |
| 16:01.17 | Matrix110 | idd |
| 16:01.18 | vithos | Rasd: if you don't have "Display Lua Errors" enabled, then you aren't going to see any error message coming from addons. turn it on at least for now to help diagnose the problem with Loggerhead |
| 16:01.56 | vithos | Rasd: after you enable it, /console reloadui and see if you get an error |
| 16:01.57 | raider|poul | is it easy to hide the gryfons on the side of actionbar? |
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| 16:02.25 | Xuerian | raider|poul: Get a action bar addon, such as Bongos or Bartender3 |
| 16:02.28 | deltron | raider|poul: bartender3 does that automagically |
| 16:02.42 | jme | raider|poul: minimalist does that and doesn't change anything else, if that's all you're looking for |
| 16:02.43 | Matrix110 | Xuerian http://blogs.nvidia.com/developers/2007/05/ut3_to_be_direc.html <---but it doesnt say that it doesnt work under DX9 so well see:P |
| 16:02.43 | Daemoen | bartender3 or trinity bars! |
| 16:02.46 | Daemoen | :-D |
| 16:02.50 | raider|poul | i dont want a addon for such simple thing if its just to :hide() 2 objecs |
| 16:02.53 | raider|poul | objects |
| 16:02.54 | Rasd | yes i got an error vithos |
| 16:03.01 | jme | raider|poul: then get the Minimalist mod from files.wowace.com |
| 16:03.05 | vithos | Rasd: what error? |
| 16:03.16 | Xuerian | Matrix110: |
| 16:03.17 | Xuerian | Matrix110: .... |
| 16:03.29 | Xuerian | Matrix110: mark rein can go fuck himself. |
| 16:03.34 | Rasd | attept to call global "ace library" " ( anil value) |
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| 16:04.10 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r43631 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib - Update koKR locals |
| 16:04.16 | vithos | Rasd: did you download the no-ext (no externals) version, perhaps? |
| 16:05.13 | Rasd | hm dunno :D |
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| 16:05.37 | Xuerian | Rasd: A: Are you using WAU? |
| 16:05.39 | vithos | Rasd: actually, i think this addon may not be set up correctly on the wowace svn. |
| 16:05.43 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 16:05.49 | Xuerian | nevermind |
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| 16:06.04 | Xuerian | Listen to vithos, I'mma.... go over there.. yeah. |
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| 16:06.30 | vithos | Rasd: get Ace2, TouristLib from files.wowace.com |
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| 16:07.32 | jme | off topic, but does there exist something for Vista like QoS that limits download speeds? |
| 16:07.42 | jme | other than using the router |
| 16:07.47 | Dustwhisper | netlimiter.com |
| 16:07.49 | Hjalte | Can anyone tell me, how much hit rating it is advised to have as a tanking warrior? |
| 16:07.55 | Dustwhisper | there are several applications that will do it |
| 16:08.02 | jme | Dustwhisper: ah, thanks |
| 16:08.05 | Tornhoof | ideally? 8.x% hjalte |
| 16:09.28 | Hjalte | Tornhoof, 8%?! That's like.. Alot of hit rating.. You sure? |
| 16:09.51 | Tornhoof | 5% normal miss |
| 16:10.16 | Tornhoof | + the warrior thread on ej said something about 3% miss based from level difference |
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| 16:10.25 | Tornhoof | but i guess you're mighty fine with 5% or something |
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| 16:10.49 | vithos | 8.5% is what i've read, against lvl73 (boss = your level + 3) |
| 16:11.09 | Tornhoof | yeh i know of 8.6% (5+3+15*0.04 (weaponskill diff)) |
| 16:11.11 | Kaelten_ | g'morning |
| 16:11.55 | deltron | howdy |
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| 16:12.21 | vithos | i've also read that as you approach the hit cap, the effect of +hit diminishes.. which could be totally wrong. i aim for 8.5% as a hunter though. |
| 16:13.00 | [Ammo] | +hit is best for boss fights |
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| 16:17.28 | Cryect | +hit does diminish but it only diminishes at one point which is where you've capped the +hit to ensure your specials never miss |
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| 16:17.52 | Tornhoof | which is 8.6% ;) |
| 16:17.54 | Cryect | which is 5.6% |
| 16:17.54 | Cryect | no |
| 16:17.58 | Tornhoof | no |
| 16:17.58 | Cryect | Specials are 5.6% |
| 16:18.00 | Cryect | Whites are 8.6% |
| 16:18.01 | Tornhoof | 8.6% |
| 16:18.10 | Cryect | No only white attacks are 8.6% |
| 16:18.12 | Tornhoof | no |
| 16:18.12 | Cryect | I never miss my specials |
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| 16:18.17 | Cryect | and I only have 6% hit |
| 16:18.30 | Tornhoof | ever properly logged that? |
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| 16:18.34 | Cryect | Or maybe hey I've been extremely lucky for months on boss fights |
| 16:18.40 | Cryect | no I just make Recount |
| 16:18.45 | Cryect | and don't look at numbers ever |
| 16:18.46 | jme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc9VUTUivTY&NR=1 <- ahaha |
| 16:19.03 | Tornhoof | yellows have the same miss chance as single swings |
| 16:19.07 | Cryect | No they don't |
| 16:19.11 | Tornhoof | they do |
| 16:19.17 | Cryect | They are different for some reason |
| 16:19.20 | Tornhoof | it just depends on who you believe |
| 16:19.30 | Tornhoof | if there is a +3lvl malu |
| 16:19.31 | Cryect | I believe the fact I've never ever missed a yellow |
| 16:19.34 | Cryect | on boss fights |
| 16:19.35 | Tornhoof | or if there is no such malus |
| 16:19.41 | Cryect | I've missed whites |
| 16:19.44 | Cryect | on those boss fights |
| 16:19.48 | Cryect | so.... |
| 16:19.53 | Cryect | something is different |
| 16:20.09 | Tornhoof | yah i know, the warriors say 8.6% for white/yellow, some say 5.6%, the hunters say 8.6% too |
| 16:20.10 | Cryect | and this has been consistent |
| 16:20.17 | Tornhoof | and they shoot yellow most of the time |
| 16:20.25 | Cryect | For druids its definately 5.6% and 8.6% |
| 16:20.44 | Cryect | Can't really say for other classes don't play them |
| 16:20.59 | Cryect | but the evidence I've consistently seen jives with the different number theory |
| 16:21.19 | Tornhoof | it doesn't really matter without dual wield anyway |
| 16:21.32 | Cryect | Eh |
| 16:21.40 | Cryect | under 5.6% +hit is really valuable for a druid |
| 16:21.46 | Cryect | over 5.6% its not so valuable |
| 16:21.50 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 16:21.53 | Tornhoof | that for sure |
| 16:22.20 | Cryect | as long as we land our yellows its good since we need our combos and don't want to waste energy (though you get 81% of your energy returned on misses) |
| 16:22.41 | Cryect | or whatever the energy return number is |
| 16:23.12 | Tornhoof | yah |
| 16:24.13 | _icetrain | I have 6.85% hit, last voidreaver i missed 0.9% on steady shot and 0% on auto shot .. |
| 16:24.16 | Cryect | I'm glad there is two different numbers personally, because it would be a lot harder to reach 8.6% hit than it is to reach 5.6% hit for a druid |
| 16:24.32 | Cryect | well its definately different for ranged |
| 16:25.08 | Cryect | ranged have different rules from melee |
| 16:25.14 | _icetrain | the big difference is that stuff cant be parried, dodged etc |
| 16:25.18 | Cryect | yep |
| 16:26.22 | Cryect | hehe even occasionally the system still gltiches and a deflected appears out of nowhere :-p |
| 16:26.46 | Cryect | which has always puzzled me how it pops up sometimes |
| 16:26.56 | _icetrain | never seen that |
| 16:27.15 | Cryect | we had it appearing in on logs occasionally when going to patchwerk |
| 16:27.17 | Cryect | the strange thing |
| 16:27.19 | Cryect | it wasn't for ranged |
| 16:27.26 | Cryect | it was on a 2H warrior |
| 16:28.15 | Cryect | ah here's one :-p |
| 16:28.16 | Cryect | ---------- Find in Files ---------- |
| 16:28.16 | Cryect | "C:\games\World of Warcraft\Logs\WoWCombatLog-.txt"(208121,62):2/13 22:39:24.720 Ghostly Steward's Drunken Skull Crack was deflected by Kearan. |
| 16:28.58 | Cryect | thats one of my single deflection actually recorded to a combatlog file :-p out of a few hundred megs of combatlogs |
| 16:29.23 | Cryect | oh actually only couple hundred forgot I deleted old naxx stuff |
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| 16:30.32 | Antiarc|Work | I've seen deflects |
| 16:30.42 | Antiarc|Work | The Brewmasters in Blade's Edge have a deflectable ability |
| 16:30.54 | Antiarc|Work | Managed to see it happen several times in an hour. |
| 16:31.06 | Antiarc|Work | I think a deflect is basically a ranged parry |
| 16:31.16 | Cryect | Must be one of those cases where they forgot to turn off a flag |
| 16:31.28 | Cryect | yeah thats the only case where it was suppoesd to happen |
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| 16:31.35 | Fisker- | Cryect that is player deflecting not the NPC |
| 16:32.07 | Cryect | yeah |
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| 16:38.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 16:38.13 | sag_ich_nicht | judgements work |
| 16:38.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Righteous Fury still doesn't |
| 16:38.29 | Fisker- | OH MY GOD NOT NOW |
| 16:38.30 | sag_ich_nicht | remember the tooltip reads threat generated by holy SPELLS |
| 16:38.30 | Fisker- | MY TIME COME |
| 16:38.35 | sag_ich_nicht | not generated by holy DAMAGE |
| 16:39.12 | Coruss | eh? I thought it was all holy damage |
| 16:39.16 | Fisker- | what's the difference? |
| 16:39.25 | nuoHep | it works on heals |
| 16:39.26 | Fisker- | All spells a paladin have are holy |
| 16:39.27 | Antiarc|Work | Oooh. |
| 16:39.30 | Fisker- | ah doh |
| 16:39.35 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. It works fine for holy damage. |
| 16:39.40 | Antiarc|Work | I can add heals easily enough. |
| 16:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc it's also judgements that don't do damage but cause aggro |
| 16:40.24 | sag_ich_nicht | like judgement of the crusader |
| 16:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | etc. |
| 16:40.36 | Coruss | crusader is an increase in damage no? |
| 16:40.43 | Coruss | I didn't think it put out any threat on it's own |
| 16:40.54 | sag_ich_nicht | judgements cause a base threat of 57 threat |
| 16:40.54 | Antiarc|Work | Debuffs usually have associated threat |
| 16:41.10 | Coruss | hmm good to know |
| 16:41.13 | sag_ich_nicht | so any spell a paladin can cast that causes threat |
| 16:41.15 | sag_ich_nicht | turn undead |
| 16:41.16 | sag_ich_nicht | heal |
| 16:41.18 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: The code reads like heals should already be affected by righteous fury. |
| 16:41.19 | sag_ich_nicht | damaging stuff |
| 16:41.22 | Coruss | I guess if they didn't cause threat they wouldn't pull |
| 16:41.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc judgements are 100% not affected |
| 16:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i just tested it |
| 16:41.57 | Antiarc|Work | You're saying judgements should be affected? |
| 16:42.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm saying all spells should be affected since it reads exactly that |
| 16:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll be glad to check the exact spell effect from thottbot tho |
| 16:43.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Apply Aura: Mod Threat (Holy) |
| 16:43.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Value: 60 |
| 16:44.17 | sag_ich_nicht | anything a paladin can cast except crusader strike, basicially. |
| 16:44.53 | Antiarc|Work | Do you have threat values on turn undead, by any chance? |
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| 16:45.14 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm, nope, sorry |
| 16:45.15 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
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| 16:45.44 | sag_ich_nicht | don't have for holy wrath, either |
| 16:46.05 | sag_ich_nicht | but holy wrath should just be holy damage anyway |
| 16:46.16 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, holy damage is handled generically. |
| 16:46.28 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
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| 16:46.55 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43634 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua: Threat-1.0: Add Righteous Fury modifier to Judgement. |
| 16:46.57 | sag_ich_nicht | hell even buffs you cast on someone will have increased threat |
| 16:47.09 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, but those aren't cast too frequently in combat ;) |
| 16:47.11 | Coruss | that is true |
| 16:47.15 | Coruss | I've seen that happen |
| 16:47.29 | Antiarc|Work | Every buff or debuff has some small amount of threat associated with it |
| 16:47.33 | Antiarc|Work | Usually ~50-60 |
| 16:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc still, accurate=accurate, and inaccurate=inaccurate |
| 16:47.41 | Coruss | chain pulling in blood furnace, I refreshed seal of light on everyone and pulled agg from a mob no one had tapped |
| 16:47.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ;) |
| 16:48.05 | Coruss | I wonder if there's any threat difference depending on length of a buff, i.e. 5min vs 15min vs 30min |
| 16:48.06 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Sure, but my time's better spent on larger things than deducing that blessing of light rank 2 is 10 threat ;) |
| 16:48.14 | Antiarc|Work | When I have the rest done, I can come back to it. :D |
| 16:48.24 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: There isn't any significant difference, from what I've seen. |
| 16:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 16:48.38 | Antiarc|Work | Hell, even crafting seems to create some threat. We had someone transmute arcanite on the Shazzrah pull once, and Shazzrah beelined for her. |
| 16:48.45 | Antiarc|Work | It was beyond hilarious. |
| 16:48.52 | sag_ich_nicht | rofl |
| 16:48.59 | NightHawkAtWork | that's awesome. |
| 16:49.00 | Coruss | lol |
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| 16:49.30 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 16:49.32 | Coruss | well crafting is just a channelled spell right? |
| 16:49.41 | Antiarc|Work | I guess, I dunno |
| 16:49.47 | Cryect | its not channeled |
| 16:49.48 | Cryect | its casted |
| 16:49.49 | NightHawkAtWork | not channeled, but yes |
| 16:49.51 | Antiarc|Work | Well, a spell with a cast time. |
| 16:49.53 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: why are you releasing new WAU's and not giving the changelog |
| 16:49.57 | Coruss | ya |
| 16:49.59 | NightHawkAtWork | everything is a spell |
| 16:50.13 | Chompers | these netherwing dragon race quests suck balls |
| 16:50.14 | Cryect | yep |
| 16:50.17 | Chompers | I HATE THEM |
| 16:50.22 | Cryect | except autoattacks :-p |
| 16:50.46 | stavmar | does anyone know if for the new atlasloot beta we need all four downloads or just the three new ones? |
| 16:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:49] <NightHawkAtWork> everything is a spell <--so you're saying warriors are spellcasters? :P |
| 16:51.03 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, they are. |
| 16:51.08 | Antiarc|Work | Sunder Armor is a spellcast. |
| 16:51.09 | NightHawkAtWork | yep |
| 16:51.18 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 16:51.22 | sag_ich_nicht | melee "school"? |
| 16:51.26 | Antiarc|Work | Physical |
| 16:51.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 16:51.46 | sag_ich_nicht | yes that makes sense |
| 16:51.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 16:52.08 | NightHawkAtWork | from a programatic point of view, its really pretty straightfoward. ;) |
| 16:52.43 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 16:52.46 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43635 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: bugfix |
| 16:53.24 | sag_ich_nicht | go faster clock |
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| 16:53.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i want that fix |
| 16:53.27 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 16:54.24 | Antiarc|Work | Argh. I don't understand the lib upgrade thing that ckknight did for Threat at all. |
| 16:54.27 | Antiarc|Work | And it no worky. |
| 16:56.32 | loonacy | Are there any WAU devs in here? |
| 16:56.41 | stavmar | ckknight: I think it might be related to Clearfont, but just in case http://ace.pastey.net/70701 |
| 16:57.19 | Kirkburn | Nah, doubt it's anything to do with ClearFont |
| 16:57.55 | stavmar | sorry to say that, KB my apologies |
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| 16:59.09 | stavmar | weird question for you guys about an american movies released called SiCKO in teh US. The film indicates that in most other countries you all receive free healthcare, you go to a docto and pay nothing for his or her services. My question is how long do you wait to see a docotor for a checkup or at the emergency room? |
| 16:59.38 | Chompers | it's not free |
| 16:59.47 | Chompers | you pay taxes for its upkeep |
| 17:00.17 | pb_ee1 | stavmar: depends on the healthcare |
| 17:00.18 | Chompers | and waiting times depend on how badly you're hurt |
| 17:00.37 | pb_ee1 | stavmar: I usually take an appointment so the wait time isn't very revelant ;p |
| 17:01.21 | pb_ee1 | some doctors are a pain in the ass to see. for example, you need to take an appointment 4 to 6 month in advance to meet the doctors that check your eyes (dunno the word in english) |
| 17:01.31 | Coruss | optometrist |
| 17:01.32 | Kemayo | stavmar: I don't know statistics... but in England I never particularly had to wait. And there were certainly times when my brothers or I were pretty ill and got appointments for that day or the next. |
| 17:01.34 | pb_ee1 | I'm living in France |
| 17:01.36 | pb_ee1 | Coruss: thanks ;) |
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| 17:02.33 | Coruss | I'm in canada, and it depends where you go to, in bigger cities the wait times get longer. But my family doctor in a smaller town (11-12k ppl) could always get me in within a week |
| 17:03.04 | Kemayo | stavmar: (By "pretty ill" I don't mean obviously in danger of dying -- I just mean feeling like crap.) |
| 17:03.07 | cryogen | haha |
| 17:03.17 | cryogen | my memory usage has gone down quite significantly |
| 17:03.28 | cryogen | guess its not a good idea to run embed and disembed at the same time ^^ |
| 17:03.33 | Kemayo | Oh, and my two experiences with emergency rooms in England involved going in and being seen almost immediately. |
| 17:04.07 | stavmar | well i understand your taxes do pay for it and we americans pay less taxes than the Candian or European counterparts but I was always wondering aobut waits. THe movie even showed doctors that would come to your house for no cost at all after making a call, is this true as well? |
| 17:04.19 | Kemayo | cryogen: Well, there shouldn't be any negative impact, beyond increased initial load time... |
| 17:04.21 | stavmar | ok so your ER visits have been of quality care as well? |
| 17:04.56 | cryogen | Kemayo: youd think that, but im at least 10M down |
| 17:05.03 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43636 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: added frFR locale. Thanks Scalpel. |
| 17:05.11 | cryogen | (and have improved load times) |
| 17:05.12 | Kemayo | stavmar: Regarding doctors coming to your house... I don't know. Depends highly on where you are. I don't recall it coming up for me, but my local doctor was all of a mile away, so... |
| 17:05.41 | sbu | hm |
| 17:05.44 | sbu | violation broken!? |
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| 17:05.53 | stavmar | ok, thanks, the movie really bashed a very broken system in teh US, and I wanted to here what some of you experience, thanks and sorry to apm the channel |
| 17:06.42 | Kemayo | stavmar: I live in the US now, and I agree 100% with this movie's claims of its system being awfully broken. (And I'm comparing it to the NHS in England, about which many valid complaints can be made.) |
| 17:07.06 | stavmar | so what complaints do you have with the NHS? an example i guess |
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| 17:07.29 | kreiger | Sup guys. i'm having a problem with Atlasloot. |
| 17:07.42 | kreiger | it's telling me i need "Load On Demand modules" for the instances and gear. |
| 17:07.49 | sag_ich_nicht | install them. |
| 17:07.50 | sag_ich_nicht | hurdur. |
| 17:07.55 | Kemayo | Personally, none. My experiences with it have always been positive. However, the most frequent complaint one sees is about wait times for elective proceedures. |
| 17:08.09 | kreiger | where do i get them? I wasjust using wowaceupdater to update my atlasloot. |
| 17:08.14 | kreiger | I'd never had this problem before |
| 17:08.30 | sag_ich_nicht | kreiger that's because the structure of atlas loot was changed |
| 17:08.32 | stavmar | i see and those can be quite long, but if they are for necessary procedures not sucha big deal? |
| 17:08.34 | sag_ich_nicht | just scroll down in the updater |
| 17:08.35 | kreiger | ahhh. |
| 17:08.39 | sag_ich_nicht | there will be 3 new addons |
| 17:08.44 | Kemayo | stavmar: From all I've heard, yes. |
| 17:08.46 | sag_ich_nicht | with AtlasLoot in their name at the beginning |
| 17:08.49 | kreiger | ahhh. gotcha. what's the difference? |
| 17:08.55 | sag_ich_nicht | less memory usage. |
| 17:08.59 | kreiger | k |
| 17:09.00 | stavmar | Kemayo: TY for your input |
| 17:09.04 | sag_ich_nicht | each is a module for one part of the loot |
| 17:09.09 | Kemayo | stavmar: No problem. |
| 17:09.18 | sag_ich_nicht | (i wish people would read the changelog) |
| 17:09.49 | kreiger | I did. it only mentioned something about threat |
| 17:09.57 | pb_ee1 | Question: What ace'd addon looks like the most to ItemRack? |
| 17:10.22 | kreiger | pb_ee1, i use closetgnome |
| 17:10.29 | jme | hmm |
| 17:10.34 | pb_ee1 | What about Wardrobe2? |
| 17:10.39 | Kemayo | pb_ee1: I've seen ClosetGnome+SwapMagic mentioned. Haven't used ItemRack myself, so... |
| 17:10.47 | Cotan_ | closet gnome |
| 17:11.01 | Cotan_ | <-- to slow |
| 17:11.04 | pb_ee1 | Is there a way, in ClosetGnome, to auto equip some items at particular events? (mount, ...) |
| 17:11.04 | stavmar | what is wrong with item rack? |
| 17:11.07 | kreiger | sag_ich_nicht, which change log is this? the one you are referencing. |
| 17:11.15 | pb_ee1 | stavmar: nothing ;-) |
| 17:11.18 | sag_ich_nicht | kreiger atlas loot changelog. |
| 17:11.20 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 17:11.25 | kreiger | ahh. no, i didn't check that. |
| 17:11.28 | kreiger | duly noted. |
| 17:11.44 | stavmar | kreiger: just download all four files and it will just fine |
| 17:11.50 | stavmar | will work* |
| 17:11.50 | sag_ich_nicht | kreiger i suggest you try pressing F7 in the patcher after you updated :P |
| 17:11.52 | pb_ee1 | Hum I suppose the best way to see is to try it ;p |
| 17:12.02 | jme | yay for wireless lag hiccups |
| 17:12.07 | stavmar | sag_ich_nicht: in WAU 2.0 or 1.9? |
| 17:12.14 | kreiger | sag_ich_nicht, i did that, it only mentioned something about threat. |
| 17:12.25 | kreiger | as in, threat 1.0 |
| 17:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | stavmar: 1.9 |
| 17:12.35 | kreiger | r43515 | antiarc | 2007-07-11 14:51:25 -0400 (Wed, 11 Jul 2007) | 1 line |
| 17:12.35 | kreiger | Threat-1.0: Fix a problem with the RF toggle; probably still broken, but not as badly. :V |
| 17:12.39 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:12.43 | sag_ich_nicht | you should update again. |
| 17:13.31 | kreiger | ok well. last question. is there a way i can tell which addons are new to the wowaceupdater list? |
| 17:14.24 | Kemayo | pb_ee1: There's several ClosetGnome modules for various events. ClosetGnome_Mount for mounting, _BigWigs for particular raid bosses, _Fishing, _OhNoes to unequip your weapons when you're about to die, _Switcher to change gear when you change stance, _Zone for outfits for particular zones... |
| 17:14.26 | deltron | hah |
| 17:14.48 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43637 10DrDamage/ (Data/Warlock.lua Melee.lua): |
| 17:14.48 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:14.48 | CIA-22 | - Fixed bonus weapon skill not being used in hit calculations |
| 17:15.07 | dodgizzla | Huh? How come Violation doesn't show anything in the window? :( |
| 17:15.26 | pb_ee1 | Kemayo: thanks, i love the "ohnoes" thingy :P |
| 17:17.05 | pb_ee1 | Kemayo: do i absolutely need SwapMagic? I don't know what it exactly does (tried to find a doc but couldn't) |
| 17:17.22 | *** join/#wowace hypetech (n=bob@66.83.192.147.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 17:17.33 | deltron | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/building-a-better-damagemeter/1#c5910207 <-- /me plug |
| 17:17.41 | hypetech | anybody else notice yesterday that fubar stopped going all the way to the far right side of the screen in the top bar? |
| 17:18.32 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43638 10Violation/ (Violation.toc modules.xml): Violation: use modules.xml |
| 17:18.53 | *** join/#wowace avartar (n=dhishann@124.43.218.129) |
| 17:18.59 | avartar | hi ppl |
| 17:19.11 | avartar | can someone help me with macro z in WOW |
| 17:19.20 | Antiarc|Work | pb_ee1: It lets you hold "alt" over a character sheet item and see alternate items for that slot |
| 17:19.31 | Kemayo | pb_ee1: No, you don't. SwapMagic just lets you right-click (?) on item slots in your character sheet to choose items from your bag to equip in that slot. |
| 17:19.37 | yacoob | http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/04/new-gold-seller-tactic-trying-way-too-hard/ :D |
| 17:19.45 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r43639 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 17:19.45 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 17:19.45 | CIA-22 | - Legendary Set update |
| 17:19.51 | pb_ee1 | Thanks Antiarc|Work & Kemayo ;) |
| 17:19.52 | avartar | im playing a hunter and i wanna DPS like hell so giv me some tips |
| 17:19.53 | Kemayo | pb_ee1: Antiarc|Work beat me to it, and more correctly! |
| 17:20.11 | pb_ee1 | I'm going to give it a try ;p |
| 17:20.32 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r43640 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 17:20.32 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 17:20.32 | CIA-22 | - Loot update |
| 17:20.55 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 17:20.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 17:20.57 | avartar | im playing a hunter and i wanna DPS like hell so giv me some tips PLZ |
| 17:20.59 | avartar | im playing a hunter and i wanna DPS like hell so giv me some tips PLZ |
| 17:21.01 | sbu | Funkeh`: that fixed violation? :p |
| 17:21.47 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r43641 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 17:21.47 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:21.47 | CIA-22 | - Loot update |
| 17:21.55 | avartar | im playing a hunter and i wanna DPS like hell so giv me some tips PLZ |
| 17:22.06 | hypetech | wtf avartar |
| 17:22.06 | Kemayo | Could someone kick him? |
| 17:22.22 | hypetech | more like av-artard |
| 17:22.28 | avartar | k k sry man |
| 17:22.34 | avartar | y kick?? |
| 17:22.40 | Funkeh` | sbu: there was something wrong with it? |
| 17:22.43 | avartar | come on i just asked a question |
| 17:22.47 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r43642 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.de.lua: |
| 17:22.47 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:22.47 | CIA-22 | - Loot update (missed this file) |
| 17:22.50 | avartar | where no one answered |
| 17:22.52 | hypetech | 3 times in a row.... |
| 17:22.57 | NeoTron | 4 times |
| 17:22.58 | avartar | i would like to have a answer |
| 17:23.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 17:23.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you broke the mana gain aggro with that last commit |
| 17:23.17 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host81-151-79-44.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:23.18 | Antiarc|Work | Wait, what? |
| 17:23.20 | sag_ich_nicht | but the righteous fury fix is working otoh |
| 17:23.22 | hypetech | avartar: lrn2hunter |
| 17:23.25 | Antiarc|Work | I didn't touch the mana gain code |
| 17:23.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc then why isn't it working :( |
| 17:23.59 | Antiarc|Work | avartar: If nobody is answering, then perhaps nobody has an answer to your question. |
| 17:23.59 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Is it mana overheal, or are you actually gaining that much mana? |
| 17:23.59 | ulic | avartar: this isn't the tips channel, it's a channel about coding and using Ace addons |
| 17:24.00 | *** join/#wowace Ins- (n=sam@83.101.15.95) |
| 17:24.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc wait |
| 17:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 17:24.09 | Antiarc|Work | If you "gain" 200 mana but only have room to gain 10 mana, you gain 5 threat. |
| 17:24.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i forgot about mana overheal |
| 17:24.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i appologize |
| 17:24.21 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 17:24.25 | sag_ich_nicht | -p |
| 17:24.26 | Thrae | ulic: More like the channel for the Wowace community, not just Ace addons ;) |
| 17:24.26 | Antiarc|Work | 50 lashes with a wet noodle! |
| 17:24.30 | Antiarc|Work | Back into the cage with you! |
| 17:24.33 | avartar | come on its a simple hunter question???..:) if u ppl dont know to answer it and u ppl talk about addons and shit... then u ppl are better off baby seating |
| 17:24.36 | sag_ich_nicht | the righteous fury stuff is working now btw. :O |
| 17:24.40 | Antiarc|Work | Yays. |
| 17:24.43 | ulic | Thrae: true |
| 17:24.44 | hypetech | avartar: so now you're insulting us? |
| 17:24.54 | NeoTron | avartar: way to work on that permaban |
| 17:24.58 | Antiarc|Work | avartar: I recommend rerolling a warrior. That's a good way to DPS like hell. |
| 17:25.31 | avartar | insult wat insult.... its true man |
| 17:25.40 | CIA-22 | 03feu * r43643 10RaidStatus/ (RaidStatus-Options.lua RaidStatus.lua RaidStatus.toc): |
| 17:25.40 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: |
| 17:25.40 | CIA-22 | - Moved options in a new file |
| 17:25.41 | CIA-22 | - TOC updated |
| 17:25.41 | CIA-22 | - Raid roster scan. I think I should use the Roster lib |
| 17:25.42 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 17:25.43 | hypetech | avartar: gtfo |
| 17:25.46 | pb_ee1 | ~whalecrit avartar |
| 17:25.47 | purl | ACTION crits avartar with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. avartar dies |
| 17:25.52 | avartar | ya if i need to reroll i wont ask a question about hunters am i??? |
| 17:25.54 | pb_ee1 | Yay! |
| 17:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 17:26.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i just tested |
| 17:26.05 | pb_ee1 | avartar: type s/???/?/ |
| 17:26.05 | NeoTron | you fail to understand that this is not the "how to play a hunter tip channel" |
| 17:26.07 | sag_ich_nicht | it wasn't mana overheal now |
| 17:26.10 | hypetech | I <3 /ignore |
| 17:26.14 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@bb-87-82-1-79.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 17:26.21 | avartar | come on tatz y i asked u ppl |
| 17:26.22 | Gnarfoz | is it just me, or is there no "configuration menu" (tooltip says I should enable modules there) where I can enable Violation modules? oO |
| 17:26.32 | avartar | u ppl just been selfish tatz it |
| 17:26.42 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: You know that gains aren't affected by modifiers, yes? |
| 17:26.42 | NightHawkAtWork | avartar: you want advice? buy a fucking dictionry. |
| 17:26.45 | NightHawkAtWork | dictionary* |
| 17:26.46 | avartar | and plus im not a slave of u re s to do wat u ppl say as well |
| 17:26.47 | NeoTron | for crying out loud, learn to english |
| 17:26.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc yes |
| 17:26.52 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=anmoch@77-56-85-248.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:26.54 | Antiarc|Work | And it didn't work? |
| 17:27.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i overhealed myself to 50% mana then hit the mob, only 57 aggro, should have been another 44.5 mana extra |
| 17:27.02 | Tornhoof | maybe avartar, there are no hunters around? |
| 17:27.06 | Kemayo | hypetech: That should be on a t-shirt. |
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| 17:27.12 | sag_ich_nicht | -mana +aggro from mana |
| 17:27.16 | avartar | tatz some answer thx |
| 17:27.17 | dodgizzla | Gnarfoz: I don't have that either. But un-/checking stuff in the "Track" menu at least I can make stuff show up in the FuBar panel and tooltip |
| 17:27.33 | Antiarc|Work | Right, seems like it should have. Hrm. |
| 17:27.34 | NightHawkAtWork | Kemayo: i'd buy that t-shirt. |
| 17:27.55 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: pong |
| 17:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/12/07 19:25:47> [You] ++ Seal of the Crusader |
| 17:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/12/07 19:25:49> [You] Sanctified Judgement : [You] + 90 Mana |
| 17:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/12/07 19:25:49> [You] -- Seal of the Crusader |
| 17:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/12/07 19:25:50> [Rabbit] ++ Judgement of the Crusader |
| 17:27.55 | Antiarc|Work | Is there a combat log entry, like "You gain 89 mana from whatever"? |
| 17:27.55 | NeoTron | more likely people are just ignoring you since you asked the same thing 4 times in quick procession and are mangling the English language beyond recognition. but that's just me |
| 17:27.55 | Antiarc|Work | Huh, okay. |
| 17:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah sec. |
| 17:27.56 | dodgizzla | Gnarfoz: But I cannot make it show stuff in the window |
| 17:27.58 | sbu | Funkeh`: its not working |
| 17:27.59 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/12/07 19:25:49> You gain 90 Mana from Sanctified Judgement. |
| 17:28.00 | Antiarc|Work | I'll spec it and check it tonight then. |
| 17:28.01 | Kemayo | Well, I'd assume it's deliberate trolling. |
| 17:28.01 | sbu | only "?" windows |
| 17:28.02 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: there is |
| 17:28.03 | hypetech | blah |
| 17:28.24 | Gnarfoz | dodgizzla: just click either of the arrows on the ? window |
| 17:28.25 | Funkeh` | sbu: bump [Ammo] :P |
| 17:28.27 | charon | Antiarc|Work: is newest Omen (or actually Threat), like, known to be borked? |
| 17:28.28 | Gnarfoz | sbu: you, too :) |
| 17:28.34 | Antiarc|Work | charon: Not to my knowledge, why? |
| 17:28.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: it worked before tho, you sure you didn't touch the mana code? |
| 17:28.41 | *** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 17:28.47 | charon | Antiarc|Work: ok in that case i'll collect info and report in a moment |
| 17:28.50 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, it's in a completely different file. |
| 17:28.51 | Kaelten_ | avartar: Please use sane english, |
| 17:28.51 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: The library upgrade path for Threat seems to not work properly. |
| 17:28.54 | sbu | Gnarfoz: but you cant select dmg/heal/whatever |
| 17:28.55 | dodgizzla | Gnarfoz: Ah I see.. I had to delete my window first |
| 17:29.04 | Gnarfoz | sbu: you don't need to |
| 17:29.05 | Antiarc|Work | There's some really bizarre stuff happening with locals |
| 17:29.12 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: ah, yes. |
| 17:29.30 | Funkeh` | sbu: afaik its working just not displaying data in the windows |
| 17:29.36 | Gnarfoz | sbu: check/uncheck what you want available under "Track" and then create a window and click either of the arrows to cycle through what's available |
| 17:29.40 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: care to point out a few places? |
| 17:29.46 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host81-151-79-44.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:30.03 | sbu | "?" not active |
| 17:30.04 | Antiarc|Work | Assessment's Threat gets loaded, TailoredBinaryCheckSum gets defined and gets a metatable. Omen's newer Threat gets loaded, TailoredBinaryCheckSum gets defined and gets a metatable. When TailoredBinaryCheckSum gets called, it's a reference to the copy from Assessment's copy of threat. |
| 17:30.19 | sbu | ah okay |
| 17:30.21 | Antiarc|Work | But TailoredBinaryCheckSum is a local to the Threat-1.0.lua file, so I don't see how that could possibly be happening. |
| 17:30.22 | sbu | thank you GnancyWK |
| 17:30.24 | sbu | err Gnarfoz |
| 17:30.34 | GnancyWK | lol yw |
| 17:30.35 | Antiarc|Work | Also, Assessment's copy doesn't have a metatable anymore. |
| 17:31.07 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: it can happen if it's on the Threat object |
| 17:31.13 | ckknight | because it tries to upgrade it |
| 17:31.14 | avartar | YA I CAN SEE SOME FUKED UP PPL WIT FUKED UP HEADS ... SEELFISH MOTHER FUKERS... GO PUT U RE DICKZ IN A MOUSE HOLE AND FUK IT.. BUNCH OF LOOSERS |
| 17:31.15 | avartar | YA I CAN SEE SOME FUKED UP PPL WIT FUKED UP HEADS ... SEELFISH MOTHER FUKERS... GO PUT U RE DICKZ IN A MOUSE HOLE AND FUK IT.. BUNCH OF LOOSERS |
| 17:31.20 | avartar | YA I CAN SEE SOME FUKED UP PPL WIT FUKED UP HEADS ... SEELFISH MOTHER FUKERS... GO PUT U RE DICKZ IN A MOUSE HOLE AND FUK IT.. BUNCH OF LOOSERS |
| 17:31.20 | hypetech | umm |
| 17:31.21 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Can you explain the mechanics of it to me? |
| 17:31.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@124.43.218.129] by ckknight |
| 17:31.26 | deltron | that was funk |
| 17:31.27 | QuantumDelta | ... |
| 17:31.28 | deltron | err fun |
| 17:31.32 | hypetech | ooo |
| 17:31.34 | hypetech | thanks for that IP |
| 17:31.41 | NeoTron | what a dumbass |
| 17:31.47 | pb_ee1 | Sorry it's my fault |
| 17:31.47 | CIA-22 | 03weab * r43644 10Automaton/ (27 files in 3 dirs): Automaton: Bump to 1.3.0; Upgrade to the module system so it's actually useful; Default many addons to disabled (summon, anyone?); add waterfall dependency for a pretty gui thing via /auto config |
| 17:31.53 | pb_ee1 | I told him he was using mIRC |
| 17:32.00 | pb_ee1 | He did not appreciated |
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| 17:32.12 | packetlss | i have strange pitbull issue, my party frame list in raid sometimes get cut off after the 1st warrior in the group |
| 17:32.13 | ckknight | pb_ee1: bad, why did you antagonize him? |
| 17:32.18 | Thrae | ckknight: I can put an Eggdrops Bot in here if needed ^^;; |
| 17:32.29 | hypetech | blah, he was in APNIC, who cares |
| 17:32.37 | sag_ich_nicht | okay what the hell Antiarc i just tested RF again and now: 136.2 aggro gained after applying the judgement. i gained 90 mana from sanctified judgement. 57*1.6 = 91.2. 90/2=45. 91.2+45=136.2 |
| 17:32.43 | charon | Antiarc|Work: symptom is that my threat doesn't show up at all, even though i can see other people's threat from both ktm and Threat-1.0. here are some collected messages: http://ace.pastey.net/70702 |
| 17:32.51 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: just kidding ;p (and btw checking what "antagonize" means in French) |
| 17:32.54 | hypetech | he's from Sri Lanka if anybody wants to go kick his ass ^_^ |
| 17:32.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll turn it off again and now see if i get the aggro from the mana gain NOW |
| 17:33.02 | Antiarc|Work | charon: You have two desynched copies of Threat in your addons |
| 17:33.04 | NeoTron | he had issues to begin with |
| 17:33.08 | Antiarc|Work | Update the whole mess of 'em and it should go away |
| 17:33.11 | Antiarc|Work | Working on trying to find that issue now. |
| 17:33.20 | loonacy | ckknight: I wrote some code for DogTag to modify the FKey tag so it checks if the "mouseover" unit is in your party... I wanted CowTip to have the FKey in it. |
| 17:33.24 | Funkeh` | sbu: i fixed it on mine, just click an arrow ont the window |
| 17:33.34 | ckknight | loonacy: gimme patch? |
| 17:33.56 | Coruss | Antiarc|Work: where do you work that you get to work on WoW addons at work? |
| 17:34.09 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: ho you were kidding too? if not, sorry about that ;) |
| 17:34.20 | ckknight | pb_ee1: I was kidding |
| 17:34.26 | pb_ee1 | ok :-) |
| 17:34.27 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: I'm a web developer, currently running a large suite of load tests that leave me with nothing to do but wait, so I drycode while waiting. =) |
| 17:34.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: 101.5 threat gained after one judgement that returned 89 mana. it looks like i had to toggle RF on once to "enable" the mana aggro code |
| 17:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | which means i think the initialization is going wrong somewhere |
| 17:34.52 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: They shouldn't be related at all. See if you can replicate it after a /rl |
| 17:35.01 | sag_ich_nicht | and changing the buffs status probably fixed it |
| 17:35.17 | sag_ich_nicht | otoh the seal should have fixed that too... lemme check after a /rl |
| 17:35.37 | Coruss | Antiarc|Work: must be nice, well the spare time, not the waiting |
| 17:35.39 | *** join/#wowace restored (i=restored@sherman.campus.luth.se) |
| 17:35.53 | charon | Antiarc|Work: ah, thanks. ... sucks though. must be because i update omen through SVN so i can keep my threat bar modification, and everything else through WAU |
| 17:36.04 | Antiarc|Work | charon: Yes, it does. Hope to get that fixed up soon though. |
| 17:36.27 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: The way I understand it, each new copy of the library creates a table, populates it with functions and the like, and then copies over any values it needs to to "upgrade" from the old table. There shouldn't be any intermixing of functions from old -> new, should there? |
| 17:36.40 | Antiarc|Work | Unless AceLibrary is doing some funky magic. I guess I should dig through there. |
| 17:37.04 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: Well, it's just code. I don't get to actually test 'em in WoW or anything till I go home =) |
| 17:37.13 | Antiarc|Work | (This is why my addons break often during the work day) |
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| 17:37.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: reproducable |
| 17:37.24 | restored | any way to get Consecration to show in Classtimers ? |
| 17:37.29 | deltron | lol |
| 17:37.45 | Kemayo | AceLibrary does some funky magic, whereby it puts everything from the new table into the old table so that old references work. |
| 17:37.56 | Coruss | hehe, ya I could code at work, but I'd be too tempted to test run them |
| 17:38.05 | zac | restored: isn't the cooldown equal to the duration? |
| 17:38.08 | restored | for some reason Consecration is the only ability that wont show up in the bars. |
| 17:38.22 | Kemayo | Antiarc|Work: I think it empties out the old table first, though. |
| 17:38.31 | Antiarc|Work | Aha. |
| 17:38.31 | restored | zac: yes |
| 17:38.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: removed all buffs except crusader aura, reloaduied, overhealed myself down to 50% mana, went to a bunny, turned my back to it, seal of the crusader, judgement... 57 threat, altho i had gained 89 mana. |
| 17:39.31 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: That may be related to the mana gain happening before the combat flag gets set |
| 17:39.32 | sag_ich_nicht | then turned on RF, clicked it away, went to the same bunny after i was out of combat, still at ~60% mana, back to the bunny, seal of the crusader, judgement, voila, 91.2 threat |
| 17:39.34 | restored | was hoping to find a replacement for Plateadin and classtimers seemed promising |
| 17:39.42 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, hm. |
| 17:39.52 | Coruss | restored: try Chronometer |
| 17:39.55 | Antiarc|Work | Kemayo: so what's the procedure to ensure smooth upgrades? |
| 17:40.03 | Antiarc|Work | I obviously don't understand it as well as I'd hoped =) |
| 17:40.16 | Coruss | I tried Classtimers and had nothing but problems, Chronometer works like a dream |
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| 17:40.38 | Kemayo | Antiarc|Work: I don't know, sadly. What I just said was about the extent of my knowledge, from back when I was writing Quixote. Someone like ckknight probably understands it better. |
| 17:40.46 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, okay. |
| 17:40.48 | restored | had the same experience with chonometer :=) |
| 17:41.16 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 17:41.20 | sag_ich_nicht | had the values wrong up there antiarc |
| 17:41.24 | sag_ich_nicht | still reproducable tho :O |
| 17:41.34 | trh | oh nice.. blizzard will add a ingame voice chat to wow soon |
| 17:41.47 | Coruss | lol, the only problem I've had with chronometer so far was an issue with divine shield giving me a lua error, but that was fixed when I updated chronometer |
| 17:41.51 | [dRaCo] | yeah... even more trolling. great. :> |
| 17:42.33 | Kemayo | I'm wondering whether it'll actually be a replacement for teamspeak/vent, or whether it'll be purely within a party. |
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| 17:42.49 | cryogen | i assume the fact viloation is shafted is known and has been reported? |
| 17:42.53 | Coruss | I think it's mostly meant for arena |
| 17:42.58 | phreakzter | Any1 using Quartz casting bar, and can tell me how to move it around? =) |
| 17:43.00 | sag_ich_nicht | okay antiarc, i tracked it down to removing Righteous fury. it works after doing that, but not after applying it. toggling it afterwards doesn't change it anymore |
| 17:43.20 | Kemayo | phreakzter: Open the options, find the part you want to move, then uncheck "lock". |
| 17:43.21 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll see if this is caused by righteous fury removable or by buff removal in general |
| 17:43.27 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: okay, so tell me specifically what breaks |
| 17:43.33 | phreakzter | Kemayo: thanks |
| 17:43.36 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: the TailoredNumericChecksum? |
| 17:44.02 | Antiarc|Work | TailoredNumericChecksum, ThreatLib.L, yeah |
| 17:44.05 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 17:44.19 | Antiarc|Work | ThreatLib.TailoredBinaryCheckSum, ThreatLib.L |
| 17:44.32 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it, i have run out of bunnys to test on |
| 17:44.37 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, I think they're getting copied by AceLibrary without metatables or something? |
| 17:44.48 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not entirely sure, but after an upgrade, they definitely don't have metatables. |
| 17:45.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43645 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - [FKey] can now work for units that are not exactly player/party, but also ones that are equivalent, e.g. mouseover if you're hovering over yourself. |
| 17:45.14 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: hehe.. i think most americans don't get it ;) versuchskaninchen = lab rat ;) |
| 17:45.25 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: hrm. |
| 17:45.35 | phreakzter | Do any1 here use jWowUpdater? The ace addon updater made in Java? |
| 17:45.39 | Funkeh` | cryogen: its not shafted, click one of the arrows on the window |
| 17:45.43 | Antiarc|Work | Sorry I can't be more helpful - I don't really understand what's happening under the hood there. |
| 17:45.45 | hypetech | phreakzter: it's the devil |
| 17:45.48 | trh | phreakzter: update to java 1.6.u1 ;) |
| 17:45.53 | phreakzter | yeah it works :) |
| 17:45.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:45] <trh> sag_ich_nicht: hehe.. i think most americans don't get it ;) versuchskaninchen = lab rat ;) <-- :P |
| 17:46.07 | Antiarc|Work | I basically just stuck in a bunch of debug stuff last night to see what table references I was getting and I was getting table references from the old copy when I'd expected references from the new one. |
| 17:46.09 | phreakzter | But i get some addons putted in WoW/interface insted of interface/addons |
| 17:46.21 | phreakzter | hypetech: i do not have much choice for linux :P |
| 17:46.39 | hypetech | phreakzter: true that |
| 17:46.45 | trh | phreakzter: there's a updater in python iirc |
| 17:46.53 | Kemayo | phreakzter: trh speaks of http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy |
| 17:46.59 | cryogen | Funkeh`: oh its shafted alright :) |
| 17:47.01 | phreakzter | trh: ohh.. |
| 17:47.05 | phreakzter | python is the shit =) |
| 17:47.06 | cryogen | unless it got fixed earlier |
| 17:47.12 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: hrm, yea, I know the issue |
| 17:47.13 | Funkeh` | works fine for me |
| 17:47.29 | RaydenUni | morning guys |
| 17:47.47 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Teach me to fish, so I don't have to keep begging you to fish for me :P |
| 17:48.03 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: basically, Threat.TailoredBinaryCheckSum is updated fine |
| 17:48.07 | ckknight | but the upvalue TailoredBinaryCheckSum isn't |
| 17:48.27 | ckknight | in the UpvalueFixers, do TailoredBinaryCheckSum = ThreatLib.TailoredBinaryCheckSum |
| 17:48.31 | ckknight | and it'll work |
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| 17:49.08 | Antiarc|Work | Wouldn't the upvalue go out of scope though? |
| 17:49.57 | abyssichate | Antiarc: did you fix that issue that was showing up pets in the threat list even if they were doing nothing when fighting Lord Sanguinar? All the warlocks in my party were having their pets (passive imps) shown with some high threat accounted to them. |
| 17:50.01 | Antiarc|Work | Ooooh, I see. Nevermind. |
| 17:50.23 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: I hadn't seen a report on that one. What are the specifics? |
| 17:51.50 | abyssichate | Basically, in phase 1, when it was the turn to fight Lord Sanguinar, all the warlocks (including myself) were seeing on their threat lists their own pet's names even if they were doing absolutely nothing |
| 17:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc tried it in a duell now, can't reproduce it there, works flawlessly there |
| 17:52.48 | sag_ich_nicht | might really be combat flag lag |
| 17:52.52 | sag_ich_nicht | but i doubt it |
| 17:52.59 | sag_ich_nicht | probably some really weird hidden bug >.> |
| 17:53.22 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: What's special about Sanguinar, if anything? I don't know the fight. |
| 17:53.25 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki news! We are trialling unregistered editing (with some captcha) - enjoy :) |
| 17:53.29 | abyssichate | It is tank and spank |
| 17:53.30 | RaydenUni | wasn't Zul'Jin good in war3? |
| 17:53.46 | NightHawkAtWork | http://www.thedailywtf.com/Images/200707/error'd/oracle.jpg <-- the most beautiful dialog box i have ever seen. |
| 17:53.59 | sag_ich_nicht | RaydenUni he got corrupt'd |
| 17:54.02 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. I wonder if that's related to the mage bug. |
| 17:54.05 | RaydenUni | when sag_ich_nicht ? |
| 17:54.07 | abyssichate | There are random fears on the raid, but for the rest, it is tank and spank. It worked fine before but I cannot tell what version broke it. |
| 17:54.15 | abyssichate | They were being shown as mages, if that matters |
| 17:54.15 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn: That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. |
| 17:54.25 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: That matters a lot, actually. |
| 17:54.27 | Antiarc|Work | Thank you. |
| 17:54.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:54] <RaydenUni> when sag_ich_nicht ? <--some time after WC2, apparently :P |
| 17:54.54 | abyssichate | Everyone who experienced a lot was using the latest revision released on that day, Tuesday 10th July |
| 17:54.58 | RaydenUni | oh were the trolls that joined the orcs in war3 not zul'jin? |
| 17:55.00 | RaydenUni | it's been a while |
| 17:55.03 | Kirkburn | Antiarc, that's why it's a trial :) We have spam preventing stuff |
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| 17:55.22 | sag_ich_nicht | RaydenUni nope |
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| 17:55.33 | sag_ich_nicht | they met these trolls on the islands at the maelstrom |
| 17:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | WC3 demo |
| 17:55.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 17:55.39 | RaydenUni | i remember that |
| 17:55.46 | RaydenUni | trolls get the shaft in wow |
| 17:55.51 | RaydenUni | our only leader is a raid boss |
| 17:55.54 | deltron | lol |
| 17:56.01 | deltron | welcome to blizzard games! |
| 17:56.02 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 |
| 17:56.16 | RaydenUni | are we the only race that doesn't have a leader? |
| 17:56.19 | deltron | is that the chalkboard comic? |
| 17:56.21 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 17:56.32 | deltron | that's one of my faves :) |
| 17:56.34 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: don't update Threat-1.0 for a minute |
| 17:57.02 | RaydenUni | orcs? check, Tauren? check, undead? check, human? check, gnome? check, NE? check, BE? check. what about dwarves and dranei? |
| 17:57.06 | NeoTron | http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm <-- the end |
| 17:57.09 | Starinnia | so is the Omen on Curse an official release... or did somebody get hyper? |
| 17:57.19 | Kemayo | RaydenUni: The Gnomes have a leader at about the same level that the trolls do, I think. |
| 17:57.47 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Wasn't planning on doing it till I could test it :) |
| 17:57.54 | Antiarc|Work | Starinnia: I didn't release it |
| 17:57.55 | Antiarc|Work | Where is it? |
| 17:57.58 | Antiarc|Work | I would like to have it removed. |
| 17:58.00 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mekkatorque <-- gnome leader |
| 17:58.01 | Starinnia | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/8460/ |
| 17:58.08 | Antiarc|Work | Thank you. |
| 17:58.14 | Starinnia | no problem |
| 17:58.15 | RaydenUni | they don't have their own city, but they have a leader |
| 17:58.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:56] <RaydenUni> orcs? check, Tauren? check, undead? check, human? check, gnome? check, NE? check, BE? check. what about dwarves and dranei? <--king magni bronzebeard, the naru at the exodar |
| 17:58.26 | sag_ich_nicht | +u |
| 17:58.30 | sag_ich_nicht | or +a |
| 17:58.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 17:58.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 17:59.05 | sag_ich_nicht | trolls have a race leader |
| 17:59.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Rastakhan |
| 17:59.32 | RaydenUni | trolls make up for it with awesome racial abilities like +5 to throwing, +5 to bows and +5% to beastslaying |
| 17:59.34 | sag_ich_nicht | (too bad he isn't an NPC) |
| 17:59.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43646 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua Threat-1.0.lua): Threat-1.0 - change the upvalue fixing system to have a pre-event, where internal variables can be removed, preventing an upgrade process for them. |
| 17:59.50 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: there we go |
| 17:59.50 | deltron | RaydenUni: too bad I'm a shaman and can't take advantage of those :P |
| 17:59.58 | RaydenUni | yeah my shadow priest doesn't care about any of that |
| 18:00.01 | deltron | well my main at least |
| 18:00.03 | RaydenUni | or even berserking really |
| 18:00.04 | Antiarc|Work | Thank you, ckknight |
| 18:00.09 | deltron | berzerking is awesome |
| 18:00.11 | deltron | I use that all the time |
| 18:00.13 | RaydenUni | as a rogue berserking would be sweet |
| 18:00.24 | RaydenUni | when i started berserking didn't affect spells |
| 18:00.25 | deltron | it's nice as enhancement shaman |
| 18:00.25 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:00.28 | deltron | though I'm a resto heh |
| 18:00.31 | sag_ich_nicht | trolls DO have a race leader in WoW too, Vol'jin |
| 18:00.32 | Kemayo | RaydenUni: Vol'jin. |
| 18:00.34 | NeoTron | So was the 9540 shadow bolt crit I got on Hydross last night |
| 18:00.35 | Kemayo | RaydenUni: http://www.wowwiki.com/Vol%27jin |
| 18:00.36 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:00.55 | deltron | berzerking used to only be activated when you were crit |
| 18:01.04 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 18:01.06 | RaydenUni | it was worthless |
| 18:01.07 | NightHawkAtWork | that was sucktacular. |
| 18:01.16 | RaydenUni | as a priest a crit is bad |
| 18:01.20 | NightHawkAtWork | it also increased the damage you took |
| 18:01.26 | deltron | yeah |
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| 18:01.44 | NightHawkAtWork | the only worthwhile use i ever found was with a rogue, pop that and evasion at the sametime |
| 18:01.50 | RaydenUni | 7% base mana? |
| 18:01.50 | RaydenUni | wtf |
| 18:02.01 | RaydenUni | turn yourself into the tazmanian devil |
| 18:02.08 | RaydenUni | also blade flurry |
| 18:02.22 | deltron | bloodlust + berzerking = ftw |
| 18:02.22 | Antiarc|Work | Where the hell did they get that 1.4.11 version number from? o.0 |
| 18:02.27 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously, wtf? |
| 18:02.32 | RaydenUni | bloodlust? |
| 18:02.39 | deltron | RaydenUni: shaman spell |
| 18:02.42 | RaydenUni | oh right |
| 18:02.43 | NeoTron | heroism ftw |
| 18:02.48 | RaydenUni | they didn't have it at the beginning did they? |
| 18:02.53 | deltron | nope |
| 18:02.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:59] <CIA-22> ckknight * r43646 Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua Threat-1.0.lua): Threat-1.0 - change the upvalue fixing system to have a pre-event, where internal variables can be removed, preventing an upgrade process for them. <--so can someone translate this to normal english? :O |
| 18:03.05 | RaydenUni | which is crap |
| 18:03.06 | NightHawkAtWork | no, but now.. bloodlust + zerking + wf is pretty hot. |
| 18:03.12 | RaydenUni | shamans in wc3 were defined by bloodlust |
| 18:03.16 | deltron | I'm not hip on the alliance lingo |
| 18:03.21 | RaydenUni | heroism |
| 18:03.25 | trh | is there a library for guild roster/friend roster management? |
| 18:03.27 | RaydenUni | wowwiki tells me |
| 18:03.30 | deltron | ya |
| 18:03.33 | trh | (easily check who's online etc.) |
| 18:03.33 | Kemayo | sag_ich_nicht: It's a library-upgrade thing. |
| 18:03.43 | sag_ich_nicht | okay :O |
| 18:03.50 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 18:03.53 | Kemayo | trh: Don't think so. You could grab example code from AuldLangSyne for most of that, though. |
| 18:03.56 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=jcqwfdkl5zuoy&s=9553-10053 <-- heroism, PI, moonkin aura, shadow priest |
| 18:03.58 | RaydenUni | increases everything speed by 30% for 40 seconds |
| 18:04.00 | RaydenUni | that's badass |
| 18:04.02 | NeoTron | makes lurker real fun for a destro lock |
| 18:04.08 | NeoTron | 1347 DPS ftw |
| 18:04.13 | trh | Kemayo: yea.. i know how to.. just don't want =) |
| 18:04.21 | Kemayo | trh: I considered writing one... but I didn't think it was terribly likely to get adopted. |
| 18:04.24 | RaydenUni | someone was telling me they can hit 1600dps on their rogue if they use their cooldowns |
| 18:04.33 | NeoTron | heh |
| 18:04.35 | deltron | NeoTron: elemental shaman would also be good :) |
| 18:04.39 | vhaarr | trh: RollCall for guild roster |
| 18:04.44 | NeoTron | my average dps was 1347.. peak dps way over 2000 |
| 18:04.50 | Elkano | Kemayo, bad boy ;( |
| 18:05.02 | jme | next expansion we'll be doing 10k dps |
| 18:05.09 | NeoTron | it's a sickly good fight for that combo though. I just sit underwater at all times dpsing, only coming up for the add phases |
| 18:05.11 | RaydenUni | i do about 60 i think |
| 18:05.13 | RaydenUni | but i'm lvl 29 |
| 18:05.26 | RaydenUni | i hate fighting in the water |
| 18:05.34 | RaydenUni | especially as a rogue. i can't see how far away i am from something |
| 18:05.40 | deltron | hmm |
| 18:05.47 | deltron | how would you stay underwater? |
| 18:05.50 | deltron | just have someone heal you? |
| 18:05.53 | NeoTron | shadow priest |
| 18:05.57 | trh | vhaarr: thanks.. although it seems a bit to complex for my simple need =) |
| 18:05.58 | deltron | oh hehe |
| 18:06.01 | Kemayo | Elkano: Well, I only really thought about it a week or so ago when I rewrote ALS. Which I should finish doing, really. (Sorry for stealing all of FriendsFu and GuildFu's functionality, by the way!) |
| 18:06.04 | jme | nagrand cherry! |
| 18:06.05 | NeoTron | our pally MT healers sit underwater too |
| 18:06.11 | RaydenUni | what fight is this? |
| 18:06.13 | NeoTron | and because they take damage, they get mana back from the shadow priest too |
| 18:06.17 | deltron | lurker below I'm guessing |
| 18:06.19 | NeoTron | yep |
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| 18:06.31 | Thrae | What about Warlocks? |
| 18:06.35 | trh | vhaarr: oh.. btw: is there any sense in closegnome displaying stuff when in standby? (like: set "mount" not found) |
| 18:06.36 | NeoTron | but the water only does about 140 dps |
| 18:06.48 | Thrae | There should be underwater PvP, dammit! |
| 18:07.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae: then melees would be utherly fucked. |
| 18:07.11 | NeoTron | even without shadow priest, the paladins can easily sit underwater and heal eachother for mana |
| 18:07.25 | RaydenUni | i have a question. I just started doing some BG with my 29 rogue. what should i do if a warlock sees me and casts dots on me? Is there any way to survive? |
| 18:07.27 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: There are items which can speed up movement underwater, I believe |
| 18:07.36 | deltron | resto shaman + trinket = 175+ healing stream |
| 18:07.37 | NeoTron | I tried both firelock dps and shadow dps though |
| 18:07.41 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Can we get rid of ClosetGnome's "OMG I IS A BETA" message? It's been running fine for close to a year now, I think. :P |
| 18:07.42 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43647 10SmartQueue/ (6 files): |
| 18:07.42 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: initial commit on branches |
| 18:07.42 | CIA-22 | - no exterals yet |
| 18:07.44 | trh | RaydenUni: you didn't got cloak of shadows yet, or? ;) |
| 18:07.45 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: And if we have underwater PvP, there will probably be added more items |
| 18:07.49 | RaydenUni | trh lvl 29 |
| 18:07.52 | deltron | Kemayo: read the txt file hehe |
| 18:07.53 | NightHawkAtWork | ThraeBot: i only know of two off hand ;P |
| 18:07.53 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 18:07.54 | NeoTron | although it's not 100% stable due to lucky crits etc, shadow was better |
| 18:08.18 | vhaarr | Kemayo: it's still beta |
| 18:08.21 | Kemayo | deltron: Oh, I know I can disable it. It's just a pain. |
| 18:08.22 | vhaarr | Kemayo: read the readme |
| 18:08.24 | deltron | :) |
| 18:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | does anyone think that aran is beatable with just a elemental shaman and a rogue, and no other interrupts? :O |
| 18:08.26 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUni: No, you're pretty much boned. |
| 18:08.30 | RaydenUni | k, that's what i thought |
| 18:08.31 | sag_ich_nicht | *an elemental shaman |
| 18:08.37 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUni: Kill the lock and start eating pronto. That's about all you can do. |
| 18:08.39 | RaydenUni | just making sure |
| 18:08.45 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: sure it is |
| 18:08.51 | deltron | sag_ich_nicht: probably, would be tough since kick has a long cooldown |
| 18:09.14 | NightHawkAtWork | sag_ich_nicht: doable? yes. but i doubt it'd be easy |
| 18:09.17 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: You can do it, but your DPS will have to be very high. |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43648 10SmartQueue/: |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-22 | - setting externals |
| 18:09.28 | trh | RaydenUni: in some future patch resilience might help you a little versus the dots |
| 18:09.42 | Antiarc|Work | trh: There's virtually no resilience available at 29. |
| 18:09.53 | RaydenUni | yeah i read on wowinsider it's going to be like 3% though |
| 18:09.54 | trh | Antiarc: uh.. damn blizzard :) |
| 18:09.54 | NeoTron | the resilience "nerf" is more of a way to make people stop whining about dots not being affected by resilience |
| 18:09.59 | Kemayo | Oh, vhaarr, a bug report that I've been meaning to give for ages now. If your bag is open when you try to edit a cg set, it will be closed. It's not a big deal, it's just awkward. |
| 18:10.06 | NeoTron | it's such a minimal change it really doesn't matter |
| 18:10.09 | RaydenUni | so maybe 60 dmg on a big dot |
| 18:10.14 | Antiarc|Work | It's like -1% DOT damage per 40 resilience. |
| 18:10.18 | trh | NeoTron: ah well.. with full resilience it's like 10% |
| 18:10.24 | trh | NeoTron: that's not too shabby |
| 18:10.24 | NeoTron | right |
| 18:10.40 | NeoTron | so it shuts up the whiners without upsetting, at least this, warlocks |
| 18:10.47 | NeoTron | sounds like a good solution |
| 18:10.53 | Antiarc|Work | I just want mortal strike nerfed. |
| 18:11.07 | trh | Antiarc: i wonder why they didn't changed it to fixed -healing yet |
| 18:11.11 | Antiarc|Work | A 5-second ability that crits for over 2k and reduces healing on me by half is just plain OP in the arena. |
| 18:11.15 | trh | Antiarc: every other spell works that way |
| 18:11.23 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Wound Poison doesn't. |
| 18:11.30 | Antiarc|Work | They changed that in 2.0 to be a stackable -10% debuff. |
| 18:11.47 | trh | Antiarc: ya.. so rogues are somehow viable in arena 5v5 ;) |
| 18:11.59 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Rogues still really aren't viable in the arena, at least not high-end. |
| 18:12.08 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/blood-pact-changing-resilience-to-weaken-dots/ |
| 18:12.09 | RaydenUni | "Let's look at the highest rank of Curse of Agony, for example, which (base) does 1356 damage over 24 seconds. 175 resilience will reduce CoA's damage by 4.4%, or 60 damage (rounded up). In the grand scheme of things, the reduction sounds pretty minor." |
| 18:12.12 | weab | there is no arena but high end arena |
| 18:12.21 | trh | Antiarc: i agree.. although a good rogue isn't as bad as a average hunter ;) |
| 18:12.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:09] <Antiarc|Work> sag_ich_nicht: You can do it, but your DPS will have to be very high. <--heh. look at our raidsetup then and cry >_> Group1: Protpaladin, Retpaladin, Druidtank, Rogue, Hunter. Group 2: Arcanemage, Moonkin, Elemental Shaman, Holy Paladin, Healpriest. |
| 18:12.58 | Antiarc|Work | A rogue is just a weak version of a warrior, really. Warriors put out better burst damage, better multi-target damage, buff their parties, have more HP, have more mitigation, have an AOE fear, and don't have to spend ~10 seconds applying a -50% removable healing debuff. |
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| 18:13.03 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: retribution loladin |
| 18:13.14 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc, that would be a nice nerf to MS... make it a stackable -20% or -25% |
| 18:13.17 | sag_ich_nicht | trh increases the threat of the paladin tank by a fuckton |
| 18:13.18 | sag_ich_nicht | fyi |
| 18:13.29 | Antiarc|Work | Now that trinkets remove stuns, sap, and blind, rogue CC is next to worthless in the arena. |
| 18:13.33 | Antiarc|Work | It's really pretty pitiful. |
| 18:13.37 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43649 10/branches/SmartQueue/: Deleting this cause I'm noob and I have problems in moving from branches to trunk |
| 18:13.42 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: so -30% threat isn't enough? :P |
| 18:14.02 | jme | Antiarc|Work: so is hunter cc.. and mage cc... |
| 18:14.17 | KarlThePagan | mage cc is almost as bad as fear |
| 18:14.29 | KarlThePagan | hunter cc is like rogue cc... swiss army knife options |
| 18:14.31 | jme | Antiarc|Work: a 68 warrior and i (70 hunter) were both being camped by a single 70 warrior in nagrand last night before my raid |
| 18:14.34 | Antiarc|Work | jme: There are other reasons to bring hunters and mages to a fight, though. |
| 18:14.34 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=6g4afiyp3nr2u&s=10770-10968 <-- prot, ret, holy pally group :P |
| 18:14.38 | trh | Antiarc: yep.. as bad as with hunters |
| 18:14.45 | trh | Antiarc: it was a huuuuge warrior buff |
| 18:14.52 | packetlss | 41 yards silence :/ |
| 18:14.56 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 18:15.06 | trh | packetlss: for 3 seconds.. op.. nerf nerf |
| 18:15.07 | NeoTron | ofc we had 1 rogue, 2 warriors for interrupts |
| 18:15.17 | deltron | enh shaman! |
| 18:15.22 | Thrae | There's are a bunch of threads saying how useless Hunters are in end-game Arena |
| 18:15.22 | KarlThePagan | trh, long enough in arenas |
| 18:15.27 | KarlThePagan | I won't cry about it |
| 18:15.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:14] <NeoTron> sag_ich_nicht: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=6g4afiyp3nr2u&s=10770-10968 <-- prot, ret, holy pally group :P <--nice. |
| 18:15.30 | KarlThePagan | it's a 41 point talent |
| 18:15.32 | jme | Thrae: s/Arena// |
| 18:15.40 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Funny thing.. I just had the damage that Shadow Word: Death does to me show up in Parrot as "(false) - XXX" |
| 18:15.43 | trh | KarlThePagan: nope, everyone can just do pillar running in 2v2 and 3v3 and every hunter is f*cked |
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| 18:15.47 | Thrae | jme: Bah, I totally disagree with that :D |
| 18:15.55 | NeoTron | prot pally really is pretty awesome in karazhan |
| 18:15.58 | deltron | Thrae: I'm in a 2v2 with a BM hunter, we destroy :) |
| 18:15.58 | trh | KarlThePagan: except for a bm hunter that didn't blow his cd's |
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| 18:16.00 | jme | Thrae: i know, i do too. i just hate how a lot of people think that. |
| 18:16.05 | NeoTron | would be my top choice for OT at this point |
| 18:16.09 | Thrae | Anyway, I think Arena -itself- is very stupid, and should have some changes |
| 18:16.10 | NeoTron | or MT if he's geared enough |
| 18:16.10 | KarlThePagan | trh, why yes... an excellent idea run out of LOS of the hunter and your healer |
| 18:16.10 | trh | deltron: yep.. bm hunters are a exception |
| 18:16.14 | StrangerWithCand | Darn |
| 18:16.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i think the holy paladin will never, EVER go out of oom in our raid |
| 18:16.21 | jme | Thrae: i was 2nd place in kara damagemeters last night only to our top rogue |
| 18:16.25 | deltron | trh: heh he's BM, and I'm a resto shaman :) |
| 18:16.34 | sag_ich_nicht | +5% crit from the moonkin, +3% crit from the shaman totem |
| 18:16.35 | Antiarc|Work | It's just really, really stupid that every top arena team is 2x MS war/2x holy paladin/1x elemental shaman. |
| 18:16.38 | vhaarr | Kaelten: that's a bug in your bag addon |
| 18:16.41 | vhaarr | err |
| 18:16.42 | sag_ich_nicht | and then there is mana spring totem |
| 18:16.44 | vhaarr | Kemayo: ^ |
| 18:16.45 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
| 18:16.46 | trh | KarlThePagan: so what? you don't get any damage behind the pillar and the hunter alone can't destroy the healer |
| 18:16.47 | Thrae | Arena caters to highly specialized groups who have a huge advantage against everyone except their highly specialized counter. |
| 18:16.48 | vhaarr | Kaelten: misstell |
| 18:16.53 | trh | KarlThePagan: esp. if he's blow his silencing shot |
| 18:16.54 | KarlThePagan | trh so what? pillar running isn't a magic bullet - it's a tactic with advantages and disadvantages and requires a VERY competent team to not get you killed |
| 18:16.59 | Gnarfoz | i"m in quite possible the worst group in my kara raid,e ver |
| 18:17.00 | NeoTron | don't forget 4% spell hit (ally) or 3% (horde) too |
| 18:17.02 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Okay, makes sense. |
| 18:17.12 | trh | KarlThePagan: nope it doesn't, it's the easy way out versus hunters |
| 18:17.13 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: Oh, I have some pretty bad stories. |
| 18:17.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Gnarfoz: I highly doubt that. |
| 18:17.19 | packetlss | i doubt they will ever be able to balance it out good for arena, at least not without messing up the rest of the game |
| 18:17.22 | KarlThePagan | trh, besides the one class that does the most actual damage to me in arenas isn't a ranged class :P |
| 18:17.27 | vhaarr | Kemayo: OpenAllBags(1) is supposed to force them open |
| 18:17.30 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: On Tuesday's run, I was one of 3 in the group with over 8k HP buffed, and I did 40% of the group's total damage. |
| 18:17.32 | trh | KarlThePagan: yep.. warriors are bad :( |
| 18:17.34 | Thrae | Arena should have some real random elements added to it -- then it would be about one's ability to think on their feet instead of just stats, gear, group dynamic, and the One Strategy To Rule Them All. |
| 18:17.41 | vhaarr | Kemayo: but some bag mod authors are nubcakes |
| 18:17.50 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkAtWork: how can you? :p |
| 18:17.57 | Antiarc|Work | Thrae: What needs to happen is that MS warriors need to take a damned nerf :P |
| 18:18.00 | deltron | what's a bag mod that's not crap? :P |
| 18:18.03 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: heh |
| 18:18.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Gnarfoz: i've been in some bad raids before :P |
| 18:18.16 | StrangerWithCand | Does anyone know what's up with this error I'm getting whenever I try to run the AceUpdater? "Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation." |
| 18:18.29 | trh | Antiarc: paladins should have their bubble removed too :) |
| 18:18.33 | Gnarfoz | it's just theg roup setup that sucks, I gain... nothing from it |
| 18:18.35 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: Everyone keeps saying "nerf this class", etc. about Arena, but as I say, the Arena needs to be changed so ALL classes + class specs can be viable :) |
| 18:18.35 | trh | Antiarc: it's so f*ing annoying :) |
| 18:18.58 | trh | Thrae: the problem is that if you change the arena to be viable for one class it's bad for another |
| 18:19.10 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think you need to change all classes/specs |
| 18:19.10 | StrangerWithCand | You know what's annoying? 5 holy pallies in arena. |
| 18:19.16 | StrangerWithCand | Longest match i've ever had in my life. |
| 18:19.21 | trh | Thrae: you could try to compromise though... |
| 18:19.22 | Antiarc|Work | But I think every class needs a spec that is equally viable with other classes in the arena. |
| 18:19.36 | Thrae | trh: Well that's why I'm saying random elements should be added -- that favours all classes, as it changes how the Arena itself works. |
| 18:19.46 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: No, I'm saying the Arena should be changed, not the classes. |
| 18:19.51 | NeoTron | they also need to fix say demo locks to be viable in raids, like they did with BM hunters |
| 18:20.17 | trh | NeoTron: most bm hunters are only really viable because they use game mechanics to it's maximum |
| 18:20.25 | RaydenUni | whose brilliant idea was it to remove atlastloot info on azeroth recently? |
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| 18:20.31 | RaydenUni | and make it a seperate library |
| 18:20.33 | trh | NeoTron: they use the scorpion and apply the dot when they got maximum AP |
| 18:20.36 | RaydenUni | and not include it automatically |
| 18:20.41 | Antiarc|Work | http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2262/5v5ft1.jpg <-- evidence that certain classes *coughwarriorpaladincough* need to be toned down as far as arena viability goes :P |
| 18:20.44 | trh | NeoTron: the dot stays on all the time with maximum ap, even if they lost it |
| 18:20.46 | deltron | RaydenUni: I lost outland stuff also :P |
| 18:20.49 | NeoTron | trh: hunter pets are viable because they haev an instant self cast HoT and due to the avoidance mechanics and overall better stats |
| 18:20.56 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 18:21.00 | RaydenUni | it's two seperate packages now |
| 18:21.01 | jme | is it me or is track hidden almost worthless now |
| 18:21.02 | trh | NeoTron: and ticks for like 800+ dmg each tick |
| 18:21.02 | RaydenUni | kinda nice i gues |
| 18:21.12 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: ooh nice img |
| 18:21.13 | NeoTron | and scorps aren't needed to be viable |
| 18:21.18 | trh | NeoTron: sure, that's a needed precondition for that to work |
| 18:21.21 | NeoTron | I know you can use them to get some sick results though |
| 18:21.30 | trh | NeoTron: ok.. let's say to be on top |
| 18:21.32 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: interesting |
| 18:21.38 | trh | NeoTron: without scorp you'Re viable, but replaceable |
| 18:21.39 | jme | i never see rogues until i'm sapped and dead in 5 seconds |
| 18:21.42 | NeoTron | but any BM hunter CAN work in a raid while a demo lock really can't |
| 18:21.46 | Thrae | Sooo many posts about removing twinks from the game on WoW forums |
| 18:21.50 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Get some resilience and rogues become laughable. |
| 18:21.54 | trh | NeoTron: i agree demo locks need some love in raids |
| 18:22.00 | jme | Antiarc|Work: yeah, my 15 resilience is laughable |
| 18:22.01 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Also, PVP trinket lets you break out of any rogue CC and have your way with them. |
| 18:22.02 | RaydenUni | yah |
| 18:22.07 | NeoTron | even on gruul, it's mostly impossible to keep the pet up |
| 18:22.26 | trh | NeoTron: the guilds on our server usually let one warlock respec for only one encounter to demo |
| 18:22.31 | Antiarc|Work | The difference between low resilience and high resilience in the arena is -amazing- |
| 18:22.35 | trh | NeoTron: and pay him for the respecs |
| 18:22.44 | NeoTron | and another aspect is that to best benefit from demo locking, you need to be in a melee buffed group |
| 18:22.48 | trh | NeoTron: cause he's otherwise useless as a demo lock |
| 18:22.49 | RaydenUni | wouldn't it be possible to split battlegrounds into twinks and non twinks? if you have more than 3 BG rewards you are considered a twink? |
| 18:22.50 | NeoTron | which benefits the pet but not yourself |
| 18:22.51 | Antiarc|Work | I can liquify an all-PVE-gear caster really quickly in the arena, but the same caster in arena gear just laughs me off. |
| 18:23.13 | NeoTron | well that spec, demo tank spec, is especially useless for anything else |
| 18:23.14 | jme | Antiarc|Work: yeah, i need to get some arena gear.. it's just going to suck for a while getting it |
| 18:23.19 | trh | Antiarc: true.. but it works both ways |
| 18:23.20 | jme | Antiarc|Work: cause i'm in all pve gear and no trinket |
| 18:23.25 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Yeah, basically =) |
| 18:23.40 | RaydenUni | also looks like rogues suck in arena because pallies and warriors are the most powerful and rogues don't do so well against them |
| 18:23.40 | trh | Antiarc: if you got like 400 resilience, warriors are still a pain in the ass, but not as bad as with like 100 resilience |
| 18:23.49 | Chompers | i'm tanking in dps gear + 2hander |
| 18:23.57 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Not really. Rogues are 100% dependent on bursting enemies down to be competitive. If they can't burst an enemy, the enemy gets to range and it's basically over. |
| 18:23.58 | Chompers | this is rather fun |
| 18:24.11 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ah |
| 18:24.33 | Coruss | not to mention resilience makes it very difficult to burst anythingn |
| 18:24.44 | Coruss | since you can only stack so much AP |
| 18:24.56 | Antiarc|Work | Rogues have the lowest AC of most any class but mages (who have mana/ice shield), and tend to have the lowest HP of any melee class, and their only active defenses (dodge/parry) a) don't work on attacks from behind, b) don't work on attacks from range, and c) don't work if the rogue is stunned. |
| 18:24.59 | Antiarc|Work | Right, Coruss. |
| 18:25.03 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: So I'm leveling my paladin primarily for pvping :) |
| 18:25.45 | Coruss | I'm levelling my paladin to either main heal or main tank kara ^^ |
| 18:25.52 | jme | Coruss: same |
| 18:25.55 | trh | Antiarc|Work: but they dash a hell out of damage on priests... and can keep 2 healers busy =) |
| 18:25.57 | jme | except my paladin is .. 12 |
| 18:26.04 | jme | so it'll be a while |
| 18:26.07 | Coruss | lol, mine is.. 62 |
| 18:26.12 | NeoTron | I'll probably go for a shockadin build because then I can both heal or dps (yeah I've seen it happen) |
| 18:26.27 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Yes, they do, until the priest gets the HP and resilience from arena gear that makes bursting them down impossible. :/ |
| 18:26.41 | Antiarc|Work | The difference between teams in the 1500-1600 bracket and, say, the 1700-1800 bracket is astounding. |
| 18:26.43 | NeoTron | I'm 65 >:-) but not replacing my lock for raiding (but karazhan might be a option) |
| 18:26.44 | jme | NeoTron: shockadin? hybrid holy/ret? |
| 18:26.44 | Coruss | question is this, how does a tankadin deal with maiden? her consecrate silences? |
| 18:26.46 | trh | Antiarc: yeah, but they can still keep them busy |
| 18:26.55 | Chompers | we used to have a 1800 rating |
| 18:26.58 | NeoTron | jme: something like that |
| 18:26.59 | Chompers | now its 1400 |
| 18:27.02 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Granted, but so can any class :P |
| 18:27.08 | trh | Antiarc: true |
| 18:27.22 | trh | Antiarc: there are nice charts with the distribution of classes in the arena teams |
| 18:27.27 | NeoTron | Coruss: that might be really rough to mt as a pally |
| 18:27.33 | trh | Antiarc: rogues, hunters and shamans are pretty low |
| 18:27.33 | Antiarc|Work | trh: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2262/5v5ft1.jpg ? :) |
| 18:27.36 | Thrae | PvP becomes boring when you need to basically do the same thing everytime to win. |
| 18:27.37 | trh | Antiarc: yep |
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| 18:27.53 | Coruss | NeoTron: ya, I imagine my druid offtank will have to MT for that fight |
| 18:28.12 | trh | Antiarc: i wonder a littlebit why warlocks are so low on the charts |
| 18:28.21 | Thrae | Anyone who follows a singular strategy, despite how effective it is, over and over and over again, is one who should be pitied, not revered ;) |
| 18:28.24 | NeoTron | because they are pretty sucky for arena pvp? |
| 18:28.28 | trh | Antiarc: they can be pretty nice in a 5v5 team, g-stones, lots of hp |
| 18:28.33 | trh | NeoTron: no they don't if played well |
| 18:28.46 | NeoTron | no survivability really |
| 18:28.56 | NeoTron | And often gets owned first in my experience |
| 18:29.05 | trh | NeoTron: depends on hp |
| 18:29.12 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Because of the opportunity cost of not bringing warriors/paladins, likely. |
| 18:29.16 | Coruss | no survivability, and get targeted, not to mention they're difficult to play and have low pop to begin with |
| 18:29.23 | NeoTron | in 2v2 perhaps. in 5v5 no amount of hp is going to really save you |
| 18:29.24 | trh | NeoTron: seen warlocks with 16k hp.. that's tough to get through |
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| 18:29.40 | NeoTron | still wearing cloth |
| 18:29.49 | Antiarc|Work | I'd take an elemental shaman over a warlock most any day. Better burst damage, mail + shield, backup healing, and totems. |
| 18:29.55 | trh | NeoTron: i wonder how bad a good demo warlocks with soullink in the arena is |
| 18:29.56 | NeoTron | obviously you can get reasonbly survability but at the cost of dps |
| 18:30.03 | Coruss | I know in my arena team we target warlocks immeadiately |
| 18:30.10 | deltron | elemental and enhancement are very weak |
| 18:30.14 | NeoTron | Coruss: that is my experience.. |
| 18:30.20 | trh | Coruss: we too (or the shadow priest) |
| 18:30.22 | Antiarc|Work | What? Elemental is friggin' powerful in the arena. |
| 18:30.26 | Antiarc|Work | Enhancement is a joke though |
| 18:30.37 | NeoTron | elemental can do better burst damage than most classes |
| 18:30.41 | deltron | shaman have a HUGE achilles heel, which is that our healing and damage are both nature spells, so a kick or counterspell, we're hosed |
| 18:30.57 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 18:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | we just had gnome suicide gold spammers in IF |
| 18:31.05 | deltron | that said, I'm going to be elemental for arena heh |
| 18:31.08 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: coool |
| 18:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | they couldn't finish tho because the GM was deleting them soo quickly |
| 18:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 18:31.18 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: it's raining gnomes ;) |
| 18:31.32 | Coruss | lol |
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| 18:31.45 | Antiarc|Work | I have been on the receiving end of some very painful Lightning Overload experiences. |
| 18:31.52 | CIA-22 | 03weab * r43650 10Automaton/modules/ (8 files): Automaton: Fixed some minor bits of stupidity that were causing all those defaults I was so happy about to not quite work as intended. Oops. |
| 18:32.03 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Any plans on making Parrot more customizable? :D |
| 18:32.18 | deltron | too bad lightning overload procs are fairly rare |
| 18:32.25 | Antiarc|Work | 5%, yeah |
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| 18:32.38 | deltron | in practice I think it's less than that |
| 18:33.01 | Antiarc|Work | Chain Lightning is still a killer in the arena, though. Softening up 3 targets splits healing :/ |
| 18:33.08 | deltron | yea |
| 18:33.47 | deltron | I was elemental for a week or so |
| 18:33.53 | deltron | I was controlled beyond belief |
| 18:34.14 | Antiarc|Work | My team usually targets elemental shaman first, because left alone, they're amazingly dangerous |
| 18:34.27 | Antiarc|Work | But with a 2 paladin team, it's next to impossible to burst one down. |
| 18:34.40 | Coruss | mmm elemental shaman looks fun |
| 18:34.45 | trh | Antiarc: if you got 4 dd's, two of them mages it's possible |
| 18:35.07 | trh | Antiarc: sheep the paladins, let them blow bubble, counterspell them, kill asap :) |
| 18:35.10 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Yeah, the only counter to that kind of team is high magical damage with lucky crits, usually. |
| 18:35.27 | deltron | my elemental gear is pretty weak right now :( |
| 18:35.54 | trh | Antiarc: but it's impossible versus a 2 paladin, 3 warrior team because the mages are dead before the paladins even bubble :( |
| 18:36.01 | Antiarc|Work | trh: The problem is that while you're blowing down the shaman, the two MS warriors are assist training people and destroying them :P |
| 18:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | Preeecisely. |
| 18:36.14 | trh | Antiarc: yea.. warriors are baaaaad |
| 18:36.15 | Antiarc|Work | In summary: Nerf MS. |
| 18:36.59 | StrangerWithCand | Sheeping paladins is kind of pointless when they almost always have blessing of sacrifice up. |
| 18:37.02 | Chompers | we have a serious problem focus firing |
| 18:37.27 | trh | Chompers: get mainassist and say X gives target |
| 18:37.27 | deltron | I purge the shit out of everyone that I can |
| 18:38.09 | Antiarc|Work | I have a 3v3 with a feral druid/combat rogue/resto shaman. We just don't even try any more against a paladin/two warrior team :( |
| 18:38.17 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 18:38.25 | Antiarc|Work | MS carves through earthshield like butter, and we can't burst down their paladin. |
| 18:38.32 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 18:38.43 | Antiarc|Work | Can't mitigate the warriors thanks to Freedom and Intercept |
| 18:38.45 | sag_ich_nicht | you know what's even worse? good MS warrior + good ret paladin |
| 18:38.57 | sag_ich_nicht | casters trying to nuke down the paladin die from eye for an eye |
| 18:39.01 | Antiarc|Work | So basically our resto dies like 3 seconds in, and then it's just mop-up time. |
| 18:39.30 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: ms warrior + melee shaman + paladin is also bad |
| 18:39.31 | Xerophyte | Antiarc: Just had KTM users complain of my threat bouncing +-30k, Gruul. Guessing that's about the sum of my Shatter threat. Threat-1.0 r43634 |
| 18:39.43 | Antiarc|Work | Xerophyte: Shatter shouldn't affect it at all :/ |
| 18:39.45 | Antiarc|Work | Which class are you? |
| 18:39.56 | Xerophyte | Warrior |
| 18:40.02 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Okay. |
| 18:40.08 | Xerophyte | And I agree that it shouldn't, just offering a suggestion :) |
| 18:40.12 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks :) |
| 18:40.17 | Antiarc|Work | I do appreciate the bug report |
| 18:40.36 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43651 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: yet another stupid bugfix |
| 18:40.37 | Xerophyte | Anything else I should check? |
| 18:40.59 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think so - I just need to verify something in the KTM publish module |
| 18:41.09 | Antiarc|Work | I think I know what it is |
| 18:44.03 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r43652 10cgProfiler/ (cgProfiler.toc raids/raids.lua): cgProfiler: Made it so groups wouldn't duplicate ids |
| 18:44.23 | Funkeh` | WAU is looking its placement settings again |
| 18:44.29 | Funkeh` | size etc |
| 18:45.16 | Thrae | !t http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174835457&sid=1 |
| 18:45.18 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/yr62pt |
| 18:45.32 | Thrae | Please sign if you feel the bug reporting system should be greatly buffed :) |
| 18:45.34 | Mikk | !tinyurl http://mikk.cjb.net/ |
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| 18:45.40 | Thrae | Mikk: !t |
| 18:45.52 | Mikk | meh, i'm gonna forget that :P |
| 18:47.06 | trh | Thrae: can't access the us-boards :( |
| 18:47.44 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43653 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: fix hiding playerGroup. Also check PetGroups when calculating size. |
| 18:48.00 | CIA-22 | 03bam 07dataminer * r43654 10ItemPrice-1.0/ (getlatest.lua items.txt): ItemPrice-1.0: minor changes |
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| 18:49.35 | Thrae | !tinyurl foo.com |
| 18:52.48 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43655 10SmartQueue/SmartQueue.toc: |
| 18:52.48 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 18:52.48 | CIA-22 | - adding some missing fields to the .toc |
| 18:53.41 | ben | is there any way to make Bigbrother report Misdirection on pets as well? |
| 18:54.23 | Thrae | !tinyurl foo.com <-- excess stuff |
| 18:54.25 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/1a38 <-- excess stuff |
| 18:54.36 | Thrae | Mikk: There ya go |
| 18:55.14 | kergoth | any entered healpoints/tankpoints stuff into ItemValue yet? |
| 18:55.52 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r43656 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: attempt to reduce weapon buff glitches. |
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| 19:00.13 | StrangerWithCand | Can anyone tell me the average price on a mongoose enchant? I want to know how much I need to save |
| 19:00.28 | trh | StrangerWithCand: alot.. look on wowhead.com |
| 19:01.47 | StrangerWithCand | Alright |
| 19:02.40 | Mikk | Thrae: cheers much =) |
| 19:02.41 | Mikk | !help |
| 19:02.42 | ThraeBot | Commands: !fchar <see !char> -- Shows briefer stats (ala FoxBot); !char <eu/us> <server> <character> -- Shows player info from Armory; !last <eu/us> <server> <character> -- Last login via Armory; !guild <eu/us> <server>, <guild> -- Armory guild info; !api <function name> -- Displays brief WoW API function info (from WoWWiki.com); !t <url> -- Tinifies a URL; !item <item name or id> -- Displays item info from Armory; /msg accepted |
| 19:03.39 | Coruss | hmm, nifty bot there Thrae |
| 19:03.40 | Tornhoof | hmm where is the configuration menu for the modules now in violation? |
| 19:03.52 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: for the armory, how does it handle server names with spaces? |
| 19:03.52 | NeoTron | !fchar us kilrogg aminai |
| 19:04.02 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:04.05 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: Lua Socket's url.escape |
| 19:04.22 | Mikk | yeah but how do you give the command? |
| 19:04.25 | Coruss | !char us Silver Hand Coruss |
| 19:04.25 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah |
| 19:04.42 | Thrae | !tinyurl http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174835457&sid=1 |
| 19:04.47 | Thrae | I think I broke the bot |
| 19:04.53 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 19:04.55 | Coruss | seems so |
| 19:04.58 | ThraeBot | Coruss: Coruss, Level 62 Human Paladin (12/41/0). 5418 HP; 4805 Mana; 256 Str; 219 Int; 5379 Armour; 18 mp5; 708 AP; +7.05% melee crit; 44 +spell dmg; 161 +heal; +24 defense; 7.21% dodge; 5.52% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3cy9dk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/27tqfb ]] |
| 19:05.01 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/yr62pt |
| 19:05.05 | Thrae | Ah there we go -- it's just slow |
| 19:05.06 | Coruss | there it goes ^^ |
| 19:05.11 | NightHawkAtWork | ahh |
| 19:05.22 | Coruss | hmm I must've logged out in my dps gear |
| 19:05.23 | Thrae | armory's probably slow today |
| 19:05.31 | NightHawkAtWork | your mom's pretty slow today. |
| 19:05.33 | NightHawkAtWork | :P |
| 19:05.43 | Coruss | armory is always slow |
| 19:05.48 | NeoTron | !char us Kilrogg Aminai |
| 19:05.50 | NightHawkAtWork | !char Laughing Skull Keribdis |
| 19:05.51 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Aminai, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 10485 HP; 9033 Mana; 429 Int; 222 Spi; 1849 Armour; +14.9% spell hit; +200 spell crit rating; 1063 +spell dmg; +54 frost dmg (1117); +156 shadow dmg (1219); 5.32% dodge; +13 resilience; +33 all resists. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23n6pv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vwtuu ]] |
| 19:06.02 | Coruss | !char eu Magtheridon Awake |
| 19:06.05 | ThraeBot | Coruss: Awake, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 8707 HP; 10308 Mana; 509 Int; 17283 Armour; 119 mp5; +4.05% melee crit; +223 spell crit rating; 178 +spell dmg; 2034 +heal; 4.05% dodge; 5% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2768d6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36vgs6 ]] |
| 19:06.27 | NeoTron | that's pretty nifty |
| 19:06.31 | Chompers | !char eu Kul Tiras Chomps |
| 19:06.34 | Coruss | 2034 +heal? man that guy is insane |
| 19:06.35 | ThraeBot | Chompers: Chomps, Level 70 Human Warrior (33/28/0). 10504 HP; 564 Str; 226 Agi; 10050 Armour; 1524 AP; +27.49% melee crit; 8.28% dodge; 5% block; +104 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xgebf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36d9yq ]] |
| 19:06.37 | Chompers | woah |
| 19:07.21 | ulic | Thrae: will it respond with private messages if the query is sent in a private message? |
| 19:07.30 | Thrae | ulic: Yes, just exclude the ! |
| 19:08.05 | packetlss | !char Wildhammer Feedback |
| 19:08.40 | NeoTron | !char us Kilrogg Lunaaduro |
| 19:08.43 | packetlss | !char eu Wildhammer Feedback |
| 19:08.44 | Reality_ | lol |
| 19:08.53 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Lunaaduro, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 12264 HP; 6965 Mana; 287 Str; 517 Agi; 325 Int; 232 Spi; 7140 Armour; 25 mp5; 644 AP; +19.52% melee crit; 23 +spell dmg/heal; +104 defense; 42.24% dodge; +34 resilience; +33 all resists (+10 nature). [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2evadk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pzevw ]] |
| 19:08.55 | NeoTron | too bad she didn't log out in bear form |
| 19:08.56 | ThraeBot | packetlss: Feedback, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (7/5/49). 9030 HP; 10180 Mana; 523 Int; 1345 Armour; 2 mp5; +6.9% spell hit; +197 spell crit rating; 852 +spell dmg/heal; 4.72% dodge. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25x2xh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3x9p5g ]] |
| 19:09.17 | Silviu- | !char eu Gorgonnash Littleone |
| 19:09.20 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 8430 HP; 8080 Mana; 383 Int; 1330 Armour; +12.92% spell hit; +126 spell crit rating; 924 +spell dmg/heal; +72 frost dmg (996); +182 shadow dmg (1106); 4.36% dodge; +18 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo9qcz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jjghh ]] |
| 19:09.28 | NeoTron | Thrae: man look what you did! ;-) |
| 19:09.43 | Silviu- | Thrae nice :) |
| 19:10.37 | Thrae | OK, now the bot will /msg you back to "please wait" for the armory to connect and be parsed ;) |
| 19:10.59 | Thrae | Oh, and don't abuse him. He's mainly here for !api |
| 19:11.03 | Thrae | !api UnitDamage |
| 19:11.04 | ThraeBot | Thrae: lowDmg, hiDmg, offlowDmg, offhiDmg, posBuff, negBuff, percentmod = UnitDamage("unit"); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitDamage |
| 19:11.06 | Coruss | it might be a good idea to have the results sent by /msg too |
| 19:11.13 | Coruss | rather than spamming to the channel |
| 19:11.28 | Mikk | well.. you can query via msg |
| 19:11.37 | Thrae | Coruss: You're already spamming the channel if you do the command in the channel when you can query the bot via msg anyway ;) |
| 19:11.38 | NightHawkAtWork | I think he means default response should be via msg |
| 19:11.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: but one line vs 3-4 lines |
| 19:12.03 | Coruss | really? I tried doing a !help through /msg and it didn't reply |
| 19:12.19 | NeoTron | do it without the ! |
| 19:12.23 | Coruss | aaah |
| 19:12.41 | Thrae | As I've said before -- making two commands for channels, one "public" and one "private" is like saying putting a safety on guns will stop people from abusing them |
| 19:12.58 | NeoTron | it's just the novelty of it |
| 19:13.07 | NeoTron | doubt it'll be actually abused |
| 19:13.09 | Thrae | I'm adding more anti-spam measures everyday |
| 19:13.27 | Coruss | hmm, must just be the IRC client I'm using |
| 19:13.29 | Thrae | ThraeBot is being expanded to be like an Eggdrops bot itself |
| 19:13.38 | dodgizzla | Thrae: Make it so public commands reply via /msg :D |
| 19:13.44 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: yeah, i know. I just vastly dislike the "ooh shiny!" response, where one person starts, and then ten thousand follow because they don't seem to be able to grasp the basic concept from one or two iterations. |
| 19:13.47 | Mikk | dodgizzla: no |
| 19:14.09 | dodgizzla | Okay, then don't :D |
| 19:14.13 | dodgizzla | Your toy :) |
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| 19:14.44 | Mikk | the only problem with /msg thraebot is the name is too long :P |
| 19:14.55 | Mikk | tbot ftw? =) |
| 19:15.09 | NightHawkAtWork | Mikk: tabcomplete ftw. |
| 19:15.28 | Mikk | yeye :P |
| 19:15.32 | Mikk | but tbot sounds cooler too :> |
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| 19:16.30 | NightHawkAtWork | woo! tmbg have a show in seattle at the end of september! |
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| 19:17.48 | Coruss | hmm, well either ThraeBot doesn't like my client, or it doesn't like private chats |
| 19:18.07 | ulic | Coruss: won't respond to my /msg either |
| 19:18.16 | NeoTron | just doesn't like you |
| 19:18.17 | NightHawkAtWork | works for me.. |
| 19:18.18 | NeoTron | worked for me |
| 19:18.23 | Coruss | hmm |
| 19:18.51 | NightHawkAtWork | bleh, I need more hp on my shaman. >< |
| 19:19.02 | Silviu- | He don`t like me eighter :P |
| 19:19.30 | Coruss | aaaah |
| 19:19.32 | Coruss | I got it |
| 19:19.40 | NightHawkAtWork | "/msg ThraeBot char us Laughing Skull Keribdis" <-- works |
| 19:19.40 | Coruss | server blocks private msgs from unregistered nicks |
| 19:19.55 | Coruss | (console ftw) |
| 19:19.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Coruss: ahh, yeah, you cant send msgs unless you've id'd with nickserv |
| 19:20.00 | [NNUser] | Someone broke DeuceCommander :/ |
| 19:20.05 | Thrae | Coruss: ThraeBot -is- registered |
| 19:20.12 | Coruss | ya, I'm not |
| 19:20.17 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: but -he's- not ;) |
| 19:20.18 | Coruss | the server won't let me send msgs ^^ |
| 19:20.19 | Thrae | Ah well then that's your fault :D |
| 19:20.22 | Coruss | yep :D |
| 19:21.47 | Silviu- | Ah i was trying with !char not without ! ;p |
| 19:22.01 | Coruss | bingo |
| 19:22.09 | Coruss | yay ^^ private ThraeBot |
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| 19:23.42 | syeren | [2007/07/12 20:17:21-1410-x3]: DeuceCommander-1.1\DeuceCommander.lua:76: Dewdrop-2.0: args.Interface Enhancements.args.Automaton.args.Ding.args.channels.args.guild: "set" must be a string or function |
| 19:23.49 | syeren | Is this a problem with DeuceCommander or a Lib? |
| 19:23.59 | NeoTron | ok that's just weird. a hunter that's played to l70 without using ranged dps |
| 19:24.09 | Coruss | wha? |
| 19:24.26 | Coruss | tell him to prove it |
| 19:24.28 | NeoTron | http://meleehunter.blogspot.com/ |
| 19:24.31 | NeoTron | check the armory |
| 19:24.34 | NeoTron | no ranged weapon skills |
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| 19:24.41 | NeoTron | pretty damn easy to prove :P |
| 19:25.02 | quased | quick question - is it possible to insert a "nextline/carriage return/newline" tag in DogTag? |
| 19:25.16 | quased | Trying to make a 2-line text in Pitbull |
| 19:25.49 | weab | syeren: it's likely my fault somehow. i didn't think to test that deucecommander still worked right |
| 19:26.00 | weab | though i don't see why it wouldn't, waterfall has no problem |
| 19:26.03 | Coruss | NeoTron: anythin is possible I guess, if the guy is insane enough |
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| 19:26.59 | syeren | Well Deuce is fucked. |
| 19:27.03 | syeren | Want me to Pastey the error? |
| 19:27.06 | syeren | Or message you? |
| 19:27.18 | syeren | None of the old versions work too. |
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| 19:29.27 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Heheh damn |
| 19:30.25 | Thrae | !quit you stupid bot |
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| 19:33.08 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: you know, if nothing else, that'd certainly be an interesting way to level |
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| 19:35.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower|ZzZz] by ChanServ |
| 19:35.56 | NeoTron | it's definitely possible |
| 19:36.00 | NeoTron | just a lot slower and more painful |
| 19:36.28 | NeoTron | I mean it obviously makes his dps a lot lower |
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| 19:40.12 | Thrae | There, NOW it will accept ! in queries and messages. |
| 19:40.25 | NightHawkAtWork | your mom accepts ! in queries and messages. >.> |
| 19:40.38 | *** join/#wowace aen` (n=Administ@APOLLO.MESHEL.YSU.EDU) |
| 19:40.38 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: Only as an exclamation :D |
| 19:41.08 | Xuerian | Thrae: That's not much better |
| 19:41.30 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r43657 10Tattle/ (43 files in 37 dirs): Tattle: dataminer ran |
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| 19:42.05 | Thrae | Xuerian: Eh? |
| 19:42.15 | Xuerian | Thrae, go level your perversion skill. |
| 19:42.19 | Xuerian | It's obviously lacking. |
| 19:42.27 | Thrae | Oh, that. |
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| 19:43.19 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe |
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| 19:49.43 | Coruss | man, melee hunter = nuts, but sounds like the guy had fun |
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| 19:51.09 | Mikk | melee hunter? wasn't that concept disproved in like... closed beta? >.< |
| 19:51.27 | Coruss | http://meleehunter.blogspot.com/ |
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| 19:51.41 | Coruss | he's not doing it for efficiency, just an exercise in RP and fun |
| 19:53.02 | abug | wtb an upgrade to ironweave so my warlock can tank again |
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| 19:55.34 | NeoTron | -It just seems like.. it'd be really frustrating to level as a hunter with just melee |
| 19:55.48 | NeoTron | it's like leveling a resto druid solo without using cat form.. |
| 19:55.51 | Coruss | eh... it's not so bad |
| 19:56.07 | Coruss | I've gone melee on some mobs with my hunter, just so as not to pull adds |
| 19:56.16 | Coruss | as BM spec the pet does most of the damage anyways |
| 19:57.29 | NeoTron | for leveling, at least, one of the strength is the hunters ability to hit significantly higher level mobs |
| 19:57.40 | NeoTron | with melee that isn't happening.. plus.. you have 1 damaging attack move? |
| 19:57.42 | kergoth | speaking of hunters, any BM hunters around? i'm curious if anyone specs imp aspect of the hawk or if they just use viper all the time |
| 20:00.17 | Kemayo | Poor avartar... kicked and banned for being an asshole while asking for hunter specs, and now we're finally talking about them... :D |
| 20:00.19 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r43658 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:00.19 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 20:00.19 | CIA-22 | - More quest items |
| 20:00.21 | Xerophyte_ | Not a BM hunter, but most of those in my raid use hawk and we try to stick them in the spriest groups. It's not that mana intensive, as BM can get by on just Steady much better than MM or SV |
| 20:00.49 | kergoth | hmm, k. mine's 68, havent really run much with him yet, so was wondering :) |
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| 20:01.42 | Coruss | anyone know if it's possible to respec engineering to goblin after picking gnomish? |
| 20:02.07 | Uden | yes, there's a npc wich can in tanaris |
| 20:02.10 | _icetrain | kergoth: no reason not to spec imp hawk really.. it's a big chunk of extra damage |
| 20:03.02 | Coruss | kergoth: imp hawk is great, especially for farming/grinding is alot less of a concern |
| 20:03.19 | Coruss | *farming/grinding where mana is less of a concern |
| 20:03.19 | kergoth | i'm using.. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbh0ggRmuVoVxbRV currently, since i mostly created this char for farming (hence the spirit bond for less downtime) |
| 20:03.42 | NeoTron | Kemayo: well he wanted macros for leet hunter dps . no? :P |
| 20:03.47 | Xuerian | ~whaleparry Fisker- |
| 20:03.47 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Fisker-'s attacks. |
| 20:03.47 | Uden | Hi everyone, someone can tell me how to see the minimap button of bartender 3 please? |
| 20:03.58 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOO UUUUUUUUUUU |
| 20:04.07 | Jagobah | ooooh |
| 20:04.10 | Xuerian | Unprovoked attacks now? =O |
| 20:04.15 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:04.16 | Jagobah | I need to figure out how to do the Tattle dataminer |
| 20:07.10 | Ominous | wowa it took my server 21 hours to run the tattle dataminer for us and eu |
| 20:07.23 | Xuerian | Teeheee, I like Lilanara's sig. Druids shouldn't be able to: Tank, because they can DPS; DPS, because they can Heal; Heal, because they can Tank. |
| 20:07.27 | deltron | wtf is tattle? |
| 20:08.02 | Thrae | I like my Druid's sig of "Why do you run, Priestess? Don't you want to be full of my innervating essence?" |
| 20:08.05 | Ominous | talent + armory info dataminer to show on tooltips |
| 20:08.27 | deltron | orly? |
| 20:08.41 | deltron | where can I see this? |
| 20:08.48 | Xuerian | how big is the database on that? o_o |
| 20:09.06 | Ominous | u only use the database for your battlegroup |
| 20:09.17 | Ominous | files.wowace.com/Tattle |
| 20:09.39 | Thrae | Ominous: Uh, so you datamine ALL the servers in the battlegroup?! O.o That's like thousands upon thousands upon thousands of characters! |
| 20:09.44 | Uden | Someone can tell me how to see the minimap button of bartender 3 please? |
| 20:10.08 | quased | "attach to minimap" ? |
| 20:10.27 | Thrae | The memory usage on that must be amazing, even if split up inbetween battlegroup :D |
| 20:10.51 | Uden | yes |
| 20:10.58 | Uden | excuse my english i'm french |
| 20:11.31 | quased | - /bt3 fubar minimapattach |
| 20:11.31 | Ominous | Thrae: srug, got spare bandwidth |
| 20:11.35 | Thrae | Uden: French -- Where's the toilet, I must oui oui! |
| 20:11.47 | Thrae | Ominous: You mean memory :D |
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| 20:11.51 | quased | Should toggle the minimap button on and off |
| 20:12.10 | Ominous | Thrae: no ? |
| 20:12.46 | Thrae | Ominous: To view the information in-game, you'd need to load the file, and the file would contain all of the data for an entire battlegroup, right? That's going to be a HUGE file, even taking out your own server. |
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| 20:13.09 | Uden | i test |
| 20:13.11 | Thrae | Ominous: I think it's an excellent idea, just that it's not for those light on memory ;) |
| 20:13.14 | Ominous | Thrae: its not my mod |
| 20:13.23 | Ominous | Thrae: i just ran the dataminer |
| 20:13.30 | Uden | i doesn't work |
| 20:13.33 | Uden | +t |
| 20:13.44 | Thrae | Ominous: How big are the files per battlegroup? |
| 20:13.58 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: i think mods that use it load only a small subset of the data. |
| 20:14.22 | quased | Uden: Do you have fubar installed? |
| 20:14.37 | Ominous | Thrae: for cyclone 103kb |
| 20:14.37 | Uden | no :< |
| 20:14.41 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: That doesn't matter in this case -- the file itself is loaded into memory, and it must take up many MBs. |
| 20:14.44 | Chompers | bad Uden! |
| 20:14.45 | quased | Might wanna get that |
| 20:14.50 | Uden | :'{ |
| 20:14.52 | Thrae | Ominous: Hmm, not as bad as I thought it would be |
| 20:15.04 | Ominous | its only top 300 teams |
| 20:15.04 | Chompers | Titan panel > Fubar |
| 20:15.08 | Ominous | unfortunatly |
| 20:15.09 | Chompers | let the arguments begin |
| 20:15.31 | Gandharva | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/70711 |
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| 20:15.39 | cryogen | Adirelle|Work: all fixed nwo btw, loving it :) |
| 20:16.01 | Thrae | Chompers: 1 > 2. Let the arguments begin. |
| 20:16.03 | vithos | kergoth: BM hunter here. I spec 5/5 iAotH and start boss fights with it up, then eventually switch to viper to avoid oom |
| 20:16.17 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: Well, I'm not well versed on the internal mechanics, but i know tattle is used in some mods, and doesn't cause huge memory usage, so *shrug* |
| 20:16.25 | jme | vithos: i always just use viper |
| 20:16.37 | jme | vithos: and i'm still in 2nd place dps :/ |
| 20:17.00 | jme | if i keep viper on throughout kara i never go oom |
| 20:17.00 | vithos | i chain chug pots and have a little mp5, and i'm usually first place dps |
| 20:17.00 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: Yeah, as I just said to Ominous, 103KB isn't -that- bad. I thought it would be bigger then that -- the compression must be damn good, but that means it'll also take a lot of time to decompress. |
| 20:17.10 | jme | vithos: ahh |
| 20:17.18 | Uden | quased> can you tell me the slash command to show the cooldowns on the buttons and an other to disable the keybindings on them please?(excuse my english ^^) |
| 20:17.22 | Thrae | Ominous: Is that 103KB in raw mined data, or already in Tattle's format? |
| 20:17.37 | Ominous | Tattle and thats per battlegroup |
| 20:17.41 | jme | well i take it back, i went oom on romulo and julienne during one of our attempts last night... but we basically 8 manned them and killed them twice because they both ressed at 1% |
| 20:17.49 | jme | had to chug a pot |
| 20:18.00 | Thrae | Ominous: Right |
| 20:18.15 | Ominous | it only loads ur battlegroup |
| 20:18.23 | jme | i couldn't believe we managed to kill them twice 8 manning them before wiping |
| 20:18.48 | Ominous | though i do have an idea to through at nymbia to make it include more people |
| 20:18.59 | vithos | jme: haha nice |
| 20:19.15 | Thrae | Ominous: Ah, only does Level 70s? |
| 20:19.32 | Ominous | it only does top 300 arena teams for each size |
| 20:19.38 | Thrae | Ahhhh, gotcha |
| 20:19.41 | Uden | quased :< |
| 20:20.18 | Thrae | The annoying thing about Tattle is that the data would have to be updated often for it to really be effective -- people can respec, y'know |
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| 20:20.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: I think teh dataminer gets run weekly? |
| 20:20.48 | NeoTron | R&J pre-nerf, now that was fun |
| 20:20.56 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: Yeah, but people don't usually PvP once a week ;) |
| 20:21.08 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: true, but running it more often would be a pita. :P |
| 20:21.09 | NeoTron | 3-5 seconds late on dispelling romulo = guaranteed dead tank |
| 20:21.17 | Ominous | Thrae: its updating weekly on my server atm |
| 20:21.27 | Ominous | Thrae: it just ran for the first time |
| 20:21.39 | jme | NeoTron: well he didn't die |
| 20:21.45 | jme | NeoTron: we just had to kill them again |
| 20:21.51 | jme | and then we died. |
| 20:22.00 | Thrae | Ominous: Do you know how long it takes to parse each player? |
| 20:22.12 | Ominous | Thrae: nope, |
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| 20:22.40 | Toadkiller | wow, wtf happened to the wikki pages? |
| 20:23.01 | Ominous | Toadkiller, read main page |
| 20:23.08 | Toadkiller | brb |
| 20:23.32 | NeoTron | jme: just mean hat before they were changed, the encounter was, for it's level, insanely hard |
| 20:23.46 | jme | NeoTron: ahh |
| 20:25.04 | Ominous | also can anyone remember who had the other dataminer which looked for arenateams --> player in teams --> players guild --> if player in guild has arena team scan that player --> next player in origional team |
| 20:25.09 | Ominous | as that would get most people |
| 20:26.05 | Toadkiller | Crap. there goes the wishlist page it looks like |
| 20:26.19 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: wtb websvn for wowace |
| 20:26.32 | Ominous | sigh toadkiller, it may be possibe to be restored |
| 20:26.51 | ulic | if archive.org doesn't have it, check google, the gawk script once parse it, but it's someplace to start |
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| 20:27.58 | ulic | s/once/won't |
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| 20:30.56 | deltron | holy shit |
| 20:31.01 | deltron | a blue post in the shaman forums |
| 20:31.05 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114661672&pageNo=1&sid=1#6 |
| 20:31.10 | NightHawkAtWork | Toadkiller: try to track it down via google cache or the internet archive? |
| 20:32.16 | ulic | !tinytip http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114661672&pageNo=1&sid=1#6 |
| 20:32.34 | NightHawkAtWork | ulic, i think you mean tinyurl? |
| 20:32.38 | Toadkiller | Yeah that only gets output text though. I am definitely too lazy to reformat it all again. |
| 20:32.40 | ulic | hehe |
| 20:32.47 | ulic | !tinyurl http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114661672&pageNo=1&sid=1#6 |
| 20:32.48 | ThraeBot | ulic: http://tinyurl.com/23zjfy |
| 20:32.50 | NightHawkAtWork | Toadkiller: yeah, well.. uh.. tough luck? :P |
| 20:32.56 | Thrae | ulic: !t is accepted too |
| 20:32.57 | Toadkiller | pretty much eh |
| 20:33.31 | Toadkiller | If only Google Code Pages allowed a collaborative wiki page like that ... |
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| 20:36.42 | charon | hmm i have this strange "problem", i have both cowtip and aloft. now i tend to hold the right mouse button pressed a lot so i can use the mouse to steer around in combat. that hides the pointer. but cowtips still show up if that hidden pointer is over one of the aloft unit bars. can i prevent that? |
| 20:38.48 | charon | (same happens with left mouse) |
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| 20:42.55 | PProvost | Is there a post or something explaining the current state of affairs between Threat/Omen and KTM? I seem to recall the KTM guy playing around with blocking Threat. Where did that go? |
| 20:45.19 | Antiarc|Work | He's not blocking it, just being stupid about version queries. |
| 20:45.29 | Antiarc|Work | Threat and KTM still place nicely together, relatively speaking |
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| 20:48.10 | Ominous | ~seen nymbua |
| 20:48.34 | purl | i haven't seen 'nymbua', Ominous |
| 20:48.34 | Ominous | ~seen nymbia |
| 20:48.35 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 16h 49m 29s ago, saying: '~literal ckknight'. |
| 20:49.12 | Thrae | ~emulate ckknight |
| 20:49.12 | purl | <@ckknight> f*ck you, guy |
| 20:49.20 | Ominous | rofl |
| 20:49.31 | Thrae | ~emulate ckknight |
| 20:49.32 | purl | <@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
| 20:49.39 | Kemayo | ~emulate Thrae |
| 20:49.40 | purl | ~emulate purl |
| 20:49.43 | Thrae | See, purl can be well abused too ;) |
| 20:49.48 | Kemayo | Heh, cute. |
| 20:50.22 | Thrae | ~thrae |
| 20:50.23 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, thrae is awesome. |
| 20:50.39 | Thrae | ~literal emulate thrae |
| 20:50.40 | purl | "emulate thrae" is "<reply>~emulate purl" |
| 20:51.57 | NightHawkAtWork | lol |
| 20:53.47 | Thrae | purl, no emulate thrae is <reply> OK, ok, let's all calm down and talk this over. | <reply> !char us maelstrom thrae | <action> loafs around. | <reply> I procrastinate from playing WoW by coding addons, and from coding addons by watching Anime, and from watching Anime by playing WoW. |
| 20:53.48 | purl | okay, Thrae |
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| 20:54.48 | Ominous | heh you could get a nice infinate script going easily with purl :P |
| 20:55.02 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: now, code ThraeBot so randomly when it receives the "!char us maelstrom thrae" it additionally spits out an ~emultate Thrae ;) |
| 20:55.43 | Thrae | ~emulate Thrae |
| 20:55.44 | purl | OK, ok, let's all calm down and talk this over. | <reply> !char us maelstrom thrae | <action> loafs around. | <reply> I procrastinate from playing WoW by coding addons, and from coding addons by watching Anime, and from watching Anime by playing WoW. <reply> Uh, the next update to TinyTip will be soon! Really! ...When I get around to it. |
| 20:56.09 | NightHawkAtWork | or you could totally screw it up, noob. :P |
| 20:56.18 | Thrae | ~emulate Thrae |
| 20:56.18 | purl | !char us maelstrom thrae |
| 20:56.22 | ThraeBot | purl: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 193 Str; 233 Agi; 2021 Armour; +14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; +15 all resists (+10 nature). [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
| 21:00.23 | Fisker- | wtfux |
| 21:00.30 | Fisker- | putty can't display utf-8? |
| 21:00.42 | Thrae | Fisker-: Can for me -- but it's default isn't UTF-8. |
| 21:00.47 | Fisker- | do want |
| 21:01.22 | nevcairiel | Saroz: i logged in during combat, and got no frames, whats up :o |
| 21:02.55 | Benumbed | cant create frames in combat |
| 21:03.16 | Demone | sup guys |
| 21:03.16 | Fisker- | so how do i do it Thrae :o? |
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| 21:03.57 | Thrae | Fisker-: man putty!3~ |
| 21:04.07 | Demone | Thrae: is purl a bot as well? |
| 21:04.24 | Ominous | no purl stays at his pc 247 |
| 21:04.38 | Ominous | replying instantly |
| 21:04.41 | Thrae | Demone: Yes, it's one made by Tim Riker for the Freenode network, and it's in like a thousand channels. |
| 21:04.53 | Demone | hmm |
| 21:04.56 | Thrae | Fisker-: Window->Translation, duh ;) |
| 21:05.18 | Demone | interesting. never noticed it before.. lol |
| 21:05.27 | Fin | mornin |
| 21:05.39 | Thrae | ~emulate |
| 21:05.50 | Fin | Ominous: purl, replying instantly? |
| 21:06.01 | Fisker- | SORRY |
| 21:06.01 | Thrae | purl replies when it feels like it :D |
| 21:06.05 | Fin | it must be nice to be high all the time |
| 21:06.17 | Thrae | Fisker-: :D <-- denotes being nice while also being rude! |
| 21:06.22 | Demone | Fisker-: what are you trying to do with putty? |
| 21:06.36 | Fisker- | rape it |
| 21:06.42 | Fin | Thrae: PieTTY ftw! |
| 21:06.43 | Ominous | purl, Fin says your slow |
| 21:06.43 | Fisker- | now i'm trying to setup a mailserver |
| 21:06.45 | Fisker- | i'm like ??? |
| 21:06.52 | Fisker- | but i hope next step is profit |
| 21:07.04 | Fin | purl? |
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| 21:07.48 | Fin | Ominous: ronery |
| 21:08.15 | Ominous | Fin: huh |
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| 21:09.29 | Fisker- | Demone fuck no |
| 21:09.46 | Fin | I shall diagram my joke |
| 21:09.49 | NightHawkAtWork | Ominous: "you're" |
| 21:09.56 | Demone | didnt think so :-D |
| 21:09.57 | Fin | Ominous: http://pgl.yoyo.org/c/ronery.jpg |
| 21:10.18 | Ominous | Fin: i agree! |
| 21:10.29 | Ominous | Fisker-: im sure you will work it out |
| 21:10.33 | Fin | (** IRC note: film being referenced is "Team America: World Police") |
| 21:11.12 | Ominous | also is there a way to change the tab action is xchat so that instead of tabbing to username, but username: |
| 21:11.32 | NightHawkAtWork | Ominous: yes, its in the options somewhere. |
| 21:11.43 | NightHawkAtWork | If i were at home, I could tell you where, but meh |
| 21:12.45 | Ominous | NightHawkAtWork: got it thanks! |
| 21:13.01 | Fin | you see, what I was making unclear was the song in Team America: WP where Kim Jong-il sings a song about being lonely in an exagerrated and humorous (albeit offensively sterotypical) inability to pronounce an "l" |
| 21:13.49 | Fin | during this song, a key word is continuously mispronounced is "lonely", instead sounding like "ronery" |
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| 21:14.36 | Fin | Ominous: this entirely pointless and unsuccessful venture was intended to translate roughly to "get thy arse on TS" |
| 21:15.15 | Fin | because I'm all arone** and ronery** there (** see above) |
| 21:15.32 | Ominous | Fin: rofl |
| 21:15.34 | Ominous | omw |
| 21:15.39 | Fin | excellent |
| 21:15.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin: I think you deserve a medal for that long, drawn out, and pointless attempt at a joke. |
| 21:15.52 | Ominous | ~Fin |
| 21:15.52 | purl | methinks fin is Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 21:16.06 | Ominous | ~emulate Fin |
| 21:16.15 | Ominous | haha |
| 21:16.28 | Ominous | Fin: u arnt even on |
| 21:16.31 | Fin | er |
| 21:16.33 | Fin | well I was |
| 21:16.57 | Fin | ah, see, my time machine was playing up again |
| 21:16.58 | NightHawkAtWork | Then he got ronery, and left to cut his wlists. |
| 21:17.05 | jme | hmm |
| 21:17.12 | Fin | I'm going to stop talking to you on IRC now, Om |
| 21:17.32 | jme | lf guild that needs a good hunter for kara/gruul/mag :9 |
| 21:17.34 | jme | er :( |
| 21:17.47 | Dustwhisper | recount is it possible for the deathmonitor in recount to show heals in another colour or similar? |
| 21:17.50 | Dustwhisper | so it's easier to differentiate |
| 21:17.55 | Dustwhisper | and see if tanks got any heals before death |
| 21:18.14 | Hjalte | Can anyone tell me what is causing this DeuceCommander error? http://ace.pastey.net/70713 |
| 21:19.52 | Kemayo | Hjalte: It doesn't like something about Automaton's AceOptions table. |
| 21:20.18 | Hjalte | I just updated Automaton, so that sounds very likely. Weab, you here? |
| 21:20.30 | weab | yes yes, it is my fault somehow |
| 21:20.46 | weab | i came in to work after committing and haven't had a chance to look at it |
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| 21:21.18 | Kemayo | Specifically, it's complaining about the Ding modules's guild set function. |
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| 21:21.41 | Mikk | jme: transfer to bloodhoof if you're alliance :P |
| 21:22.03 | jme | Mikk: horde :( |
| 21:22.08 | Mikk | dzang |
| 21:22.37 | kaiden | no transfer to khaz modan if your alliance |
| 21:22.40 | kaiden | we need more peoples |
| 21:22.41 | kaiden | :P |
| 21:22.52 | jme | i'm serious though.. everyone and their brother has a hunter on my server, and none of the higher end horde guilds are looking |
| 21:23.14 | jme | the lower end kara guilds are just that... kara guilds. |
| 21:23.14 | kaiden | jme, zul'jin has a very nice horde population |
| 21:23.22 | jme | hmm |
| 21:23.35 | kaiden | actually zul'jin is one of the lucky servers, it's pretty even for both sides |
| 21:23.59 | kaiden | and the AH is crazy.. there are so many people that stuff sells within minutes when you put it up |
| 21:25.31 | jme | kaiden: wtb spot in Indomitable |
| 21:26.19 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43659 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Add lockpicking skill values to Misc.Lockboxes. |
| 21:26.32 | jme | you guys have a ton more horde guilds in t5 raids than we do |
| 21:27.09 | Kemayo | kaiden: Absolutely, Khaz Modan represent! |
| 21:28.01 | NightHawkAtWork | Hm, I think my friend has a character on zul'jin, she's been trying to get me to transfer there. >.> At least i think it was there. |
| 21:28.14 | NightHawkAtWork | It was one of those wacky servers with an apostrophe. |
| 21:28.19 | kaiden | Kemayo, haha, you on alliance side? |
| 21:28.28 | Kemayo | kaiden: Yup, I'm one of the pretty ones. |
| 21:28.33 | kaiden | name is familiar, gnome mage right? |
| 21:28.50 | kaiden | or gnome lock |
| 21:29.01 | Kemayo | kaiden: Nope -- "Kemayo" is just what I go by online. I'd have felt weird calling an in-game avatar that. |
| 21:29.11 | Kemayo | kaiden: That said, I do have a gnomish warlock. |
| 21:29.16 | kaiden | k there's some gnome with that kinda name :) |
| 21:29.31 | kaiden | so who are ya? :) |
| 21:29.40 | kaiden | i'm torvis/wildeyes/stiggy/mugwump/ruxx << lol |
| 21:29.42 | Xuerian | Notice the smilies |
| 21:29.43 | Xuerian | Like |
| 21:29.46 | Xuerian | "Hey ol buddy ol pal" |
| 21:29.55 | Xuerian | "tell me who you are so I can beg you for gold..." |
| 21:29.59 | Xuerian | ".. pal." |
| 21:30.15 | kaiden | Xuerian, uhm.. i have 7 lvl 70's on this server |
| 21:30.15 | CIA-22 | 03adelea * r43660 10GridManaBars/GridManaBars.lua: |
| 21:30.15 | CIA-22 | GridManaBars : |
| 21:30.15 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.15 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.16 | Kemayo | kaiden: I'm Aril/Iniquitous. (Guess which one is a warlock...) |
| 21:30.18 | kaiden | i dont need to beg for gold |
| 21:30.31 | Xuerian | kaiden: I'm bored and there's little to joke at =X |
| 21:30.33 | Xuerian | Btw |
| 21:30.34 | Xuerian | ... |
| 21:30.40 | Xuerian | What's your... oh, you already posted them <.< |
| 21:31.33 | kaiden | Kemayo, ah, never see you.. kinda odd too since this is such a crap small server |
| 21:31.38 | kaiden | i'm in Evil Doers |
| 21:31.56 | Kemayo | kaiden: Neither are 70 yet, which would explain it. |
| 21:31.56 | kaiden | ah :P |
| 21:32.01 | kaiden | you spend too much time on Quests_Fu eh? |
| 21:32.12 | Kemayo | kaiden: Absolutely! |
| 21:32.33 | Mikk | has questfu gotten framestrata LOW as default yet? |
| 21:32.53 | Mikk | it was kinda lol when it defaulted to high and sat on top of my bags :S |
| 21:32.58 | kaiden | i'm a little bonkers, i'm working on hour 36.. had to get my gnome warrior to 70 last night and on top of that i spent ALL my money getting to aldor exalted and now i'm working blacksmithing up to craft a FireGuard hehe |
| 21:33.25 | Cotan_ | does anyone have any screen shots of that grid mana bars? (at work can't load it) |
| 21:33.51 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43661 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tracker/Tracker.lua: |
| 21:33.51 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 21:33.51 | CIA-22 | - Tracker defaults to "LOW" strata. |
| 21:33.54 | Kemayo | Mikk: There you go. :P |
| 21:34.04 | Kemayo | I've been meaning to do that for ages, admittedly. |
| 21:34.26 | CIA-22 | 03weab * r43662 10Automaton/modules/Ding.lua: Automaton: This should probably shut up the Deucecommander error. |
| 21:35.19 | Mikk | Kemayo: yay :P |
| 21:36.17 | Coruss | kemayo: w00t! time to update |
| 21:36.44 | Kemayo | Well, it's not like the setting wasn't changeable already. >_> |
| 21:36.48 | kaiden | so sick of turning it off everytime i turn around to respec or stuff |
| 21:36.57 | vithos | kaiden: shift rightclick |
| 21:37.01 | weab | kaiden: it's SHIFT + RIGHT click |
| 21:37.13 | kaiden | hrm.. teach me to be used to other methods :P |
| 21:37.16 | kaiden | i never even tried that |
| 21:37.17 | kaiden | haha |
| 21:37.22 | Mikk | Kemayo: yarr i've changed it already.. but joe user doesn't even want to learn what "strata" means, they just think it's ugleh :P |
| 21:37.23 | weab | if my docs weren't nuked you could have looked it up :( |
| 21:37.26 | weab | actually |
| 21:38.31 | kaiden | Kemayo, i'm hoping one day you make the tablet frame (detached tooltip) to be like the new alpha of monkeyquest, ie, resizeable and then it creates a scrollable frame inside that |
| 21:39.34 | Coruss | Kemayo: strata is basically a z-coord for UI elements right? |
| 21:39.35 | CIA-22 | 03weab * r43663 10Automaton/modules/Ding.lua: Automaton: This should both shut it up and actually work. I think. Done with commits for now unless someone covers up more of my gross incompetence. |
| 21:40.20 | jme | kaiden: is zul'jin a pvp or pve server? |
| 21:40.26 | kaiden | pve |
| 21:40.34 | jme | can you transfer pvp -> pve yet? |
| 21:40.44 | kaiden | you've always been able to |
| 21:40.47 | jme | oh |
| 21:40.49 | kaiden | you just can't transfer pve->pvp |
| 21:40.55 | jme | right |
| 21:41.00 | Kemayo | kaiden: That would depend on ckknight adding many new features to TabletLib, or on me rewriting it to not use TabletLib, I do believe. |
| 21:41.10 | kaiden | Kemayo, i know ;) |
| 21:41.11 | Kemayo | Coruss: Yup. It's how "deep" the frame is on the stack. |
| 21:42.56 | Kemayo | kaiden: Anything else nifty in the new MonkeyQuest that I should steal? |
| 21:44.23 | kaiden | Kemayo, you should check it out |
| 21:44.28 | kaiden | it has tons of niftyness |
| 21:47.00 | kaiden | one of the most annoying things about Quests_Fu which prolly isn't it's fault is when you have the FuBar on the bottom of the screen (even if it's just detached and sitting down there and even with auto adjust frames off it still moves the tablet up a bit |
| 21:47.04 | kaiden | :/ drives me bonkers |
| 21:51.13 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43664 10DrDamage/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:51.13 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 21:51.13 | CIA-22 | - Added option to add DrDamage information to the tooltip only if shift is pressed when moving the cursor over the icon |
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| 22:00.56 | sbu | mhh |
| 22:01.15 | sbu | wtb closet gnome function to show/hide helm/cloak - or is it already there? :o |
| 22:04.04 | Azurewrath | mhm... tekkub wrote something that adds checkboxes to the slots... something with hat.. maybe that helps |
| 22:05.16 | Azurewrath | HatTrick |
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| 22:05.58 | Herio | hmm |
| 22:06.05 | Herio | I can't seem to get tattle LFM to work =( |
| 22:08.30 | NimbleRabit | does taunt not work well with omen? |
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| 22:20.40 | Pkekyo|AWOL | NimbleRabit: I've never had problems with it |
| 22:21.07 | NimbleRabit | Pkekyo: not working for me |
| 22:21.09 | Pkekyo | anyone here know how to make a website icon? |
| 22:21.17 | Pkekyo | NimbleRabit: in what sense? |
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| 22:21.25 | trh | google for favicon |
| 22:21.27 | NimbleRabit | the tanks aggro doesn't move up when he taunts |
| 22:21.45 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r43665 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: Correct the anchoring when multiple columns are used. |
| 22:22.00 | Pkekyo | taunt does not cause threat afaik, only forces the mob to attack the warrior... |
| 22:22.09 | Matrix110 | incorrect |
| 22:22.16 | Pkekyo | k i r nab then :> |
| 22:22.35 | Matrix110 | Then a mob wouldnt stay on the Warrior after Taunt since patch 1.8 orso |
| 22:23.15 | Matrix110 | Afaik Taunt gives you 110% of the Threat the Highest aggroholder has |
| 22:23.18 | Toadkiller | ANyone know what the deal is with no pets in grid? |
| 22:23.39 | Matrix110 | Toadkiller there is a version with pets |
| 22:23.46 | trh | Matrix110: afaik only 100% and that the mob is 5 seconds on you |
| 22:23.48 | Matrix110 | but beta/alpha bugged |
| 22:23.49 | Toadkiller | oh really, on wowace? |
| 22:23.53 | trh | Matrix110: in that time you have to get to 110% |
| 22:23.54 | Matrix110 | forums |
| 22:23.55 | Toadkiller | ah |
| 22:24.47 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: no, taunt can actually "generate" threat for the warrior, but its not a set ammount, it gives the warrior equal threat to whoever has agro |
| 22:25.08 | Matrix110 | trh didnt say anything different |
| 22:25.16 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: that's what i said |
| 22:25.24 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: when you got aggro, you have 100% aggro |
| 22:25.26 | Arrowmaster | taunt used to give 100% and you had to makeup that 10% before the debuff wore off, but when naxx was released they changed it to 110% |
| 22:25.32 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: i taunt, i get your 100% aggro |
| 22:25.44 | trh | Arrowmaster: weird |
| 22:25.48 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: er yeah, misinterpreted what you said |
| 22:25.59 | Arrowmaster | they changed a lot of stuff with threat for naxx |
| 22:26.37 | Matrix110 | Test it let a mage do Fireblast on a mob a warrior taunts it then the mage unequips wpns and hits him with his hands |
| 22:26.44 | Matrix110 | If Arrowmaster is right the mage doesnt get aggro |
| 22:26.48 | Arrowmaster | like mobs only changing to a higher threat target when threat is changed, so if you had 129% of the mobs threat and were at ranged but stoped doing damage and moved into melee range you wouldnt pull aggro |
| 22:26.50 | Matrix110 | if trh is right the mage gets aggro |
| 22:27.43 | Arrowmaster | before naxx if you had 129% and moved into melee ranged you would get squished |
| 22:27.46 | trh | Matrix110: no, the mage would have to get 10% (in melee) dmg i think |
| 22:27.51 | trh | er.. threat |
| 22:28.00 | NightHawkAtWork | yea |
| 22:28.11 | Matrix110 | uhm well then |
| 22:28.16 | Matrix110 | Mage fireblast |
| 22:28.19 | Matrix110 | Warrior taunt |
| 22:28.20 | Matrix110 | no dmg |
| 22:28.29 | Matrix110 | and check if mob runs after taunt to mage ornot |
| 22:28.32 | Matrix110 | that would work:P |
| 22:28.34 | NightHawkAtWork | it wont |
| 22:28.56 | NightHawkAtWork | taunt gives the warrior agro, at least until threat changes again :P |
| 22:29.08 | Matrix110 | well then let the mage hit with hands |
| 22:29.11 | Matrix110 | thats under 10% for sure:P |
| 22:29.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah due to the other change i mentioned |
| 22:29.24 | NightHawkAtWork | right, the mage would have to get 10% above teh warrior's threat to pull agro |
| 22:29.37 | Matrix110 | ffs this threatcrap is confusing-.- |
| 22:29.43 | NightHawkAtWork | Matrix110: all of this is fairly well tested :P |
| 22:29.45 | Matrix110 | I just nuke and if i get aggro i iceblock |
| 22:29.53 | Matrix110 | case solved |
| 22:30.04 | Matrix110 | threatmeters are for the weak anyway |
| 22:30.10 | NightHawkAtWork | Matrix110: at which point the warrior laughs, waits ten seconds for you to go squish, and then taunts. ;) |
| 22:30.25 | Matrix110 | ill never die when i Iceblock |
| 22:30.33 | Matrix110 | as the warlock/other mage/rogue gets aggro then:P |
| 22:30.51 | Arrowmaster | i hate mages like you |
| 22:30.55 | NightHawkAtWork | I let mages like you die. |
| 22:30.58 | Matrix110 | But well |
| 22:30.59 | NightHawkAtWork | Often. |
| 22:31.01 | Matrix110 | i never pull aggro |
| 22:31.07 | Matrix110 | Frostmage threat is so insane<3 |
| 22:31.17 | Arrowmaster | you pull aggro, mob runs to you, you ice block, and now a bunch of other ranged are now in melee range |
| 22:32.03 | Matrix110 | We have only Hunters pulling aggro because they insist on having Might/kings/bow instead of BoS and have their bugged FD^^ |
| 22:32.26 | Arrowmaster | our hunters are BM |
| 22:32.38 | Matrix110 | Ours now aswell |
| 22:32.49 | Matrix110 | but before they overaggrod always |
| 22:33.15 | Matrix110 | And this scorpion pet needs a damn nerf |
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| 22:37.33 | kergoth | scorp needs a nerf? |
| 22:37.41 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 22:37.58 | Matrix110 | Hunter 1 uses tiger Hunter 2 uses scorpion |
| 22:38.03 | Matrix110 | Tiger ~100k dmg |
| 22:38.09 | Matrix110 | Scorpion 190k dmg |
| 22:38.21 | Matrix110 | Static target |
| 22:38.28 | Arrowmaster | both hunters speced the same? |
| 22:38.30 | art3mis | but what about the priest and his pet mage? |
| 22:38.41 | art3mis | thats ilke a bajillion dmg |
| 22:38.54 | kergoth | sheesh, hows scorp doing so much? |
| 22:38.56 | Matrix110 | Arrowmaster iam not sure but i think they have the same spec |
| 22:39.01 | Matrix110 | The Poison is bugged orso |
| 22:39.17 | Arrowmaster | it stacks |
| 22:39.28 | kergoth | hm |
| 22:39.28 | Arrowmaster | got an enchance shaman? |
| 22:39.37 | Matrix110 | Not anymore |
| 22:40.12 | NightHawkAtWork | kergoth: the poison stacks and refreshes funny, i don't remember the details |
| 22:40.30 | Matrix110 | We were quite suprised seeing a Hunter that high in dmg meters:P |
| 22:41.16 | Matrix110 | But on non static targets the scorpion sucks iirc |
| 22:41.37 | NeoTron | WTB draenei resto shaman PST |
| 22:42.10 | Arrowmaster | ill level one if you have a spot in a good raiding guild! |
| 22:42.24 | Coruss | lol |
| 22:42.35 | Coruss | I'll give ya a dedicated spot in my kara raid ^^ |
| 22:42.44 | Arrowmaster | hate kara |
| 22:42.46 | NeoTron | 2 months to level and gear up or so no? :P |
| 22:42.47 | Coruss | lol |
| 22:42.52 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 22:43.02 | Matrix110 | seems like Blizzard thought abit about the VoiceComm |
| 22:43.07 | Xuerian | They did |
| 22:43.08 | NeoTron | seriously though we do need a resto shaman (9pm-1am pst raiding) >:-) |
| 22:43.10 | Xuerian | There was a whole spat about it |
| 22:43.16 | Matrix110 | only thing open is the quality |
| 22:43.21 | rubik | Matrix110: how so? |
| 22:43.40 | Matrix110 | Ingame sounds fade down when somebody is talking etc. etc. |
| 22:43.56 | rubik | oh.. nice.. ETA? |
| 22:44.09 | Matrix110 | 2.2 |
| 22:44.11 | art3mis | im gonna sit in org and play round and round all day every day |
| 22:44.11 | Matrix110 | not known |
| 22:44.21 | Matrix110 | but they say it looks pretty much finished |
| 22:44.23 | Xuerian | Why bother with in-game voice? |
| 22:44.29 | art3mis | hehe grouping with people cuz they play good music ;P |
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| 22:44.42 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Because PUGs don't get to come on our guild vent anymore. |
| 22:44.42 | art3mis | radio station raids! |
| 22:44.43 | Xuerian | Just vet vent and use sound drivers to compress all other sound when someone is talking |
| 22:44.51 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Point. |
| 22:45.02 | Xuerian | Kalman|: As long as they don't make it pay to use |
| 22:45.07 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Like eve... >_> |
| 22:45.11 | art3mis | IVE GOIT BALLS OF STEEL |
| 22:45.14 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:45.15 | Kalman| | It isn't for guild raids, it's for smallgroup content and people who aren't organized/serious enough to have Vent. |
| 22:45.16 | art3mis | BALLS OR STEEL |
| 22:45.22 | Xuerian | of*? |
| 22:45.26 | art3mis | yes |
| 22:45.32 | art3mis | cake or death |
| 22:45.34 | Matrix110 | If the quality is good enough you can use it for raids aswell |
| 22:45.40 | Matrix110 | but well |
| 22:45.43 | Matrix110 | sucks |
| 22:45.46 | Matrix110 | if you dc |
| 22:45.51 | Matrix110 | you dc from voicecomm |
| 22:45.54 | Matrix110 | cant say: |
| 22:45.58 | Matrix110 | Crashed |
| 22:45.59 | Matrix110 | etc. |
| 22:46.10 | Xuerian | "omg wait you bastards! No! DON'T LOOT! NO! NO!!!" |
| 22:46.17 | sbu | yep... |
| 22:46.19 | Xuerian | "I'm going to kill every last one of you when I reconnect..." |
| 22:46.19 | art3mis | unless they do an alternate channel implementation thats seperate |
| 22:46.20 | sbu | thats a problem |
| 22:46.24 | sbu | "wow error!" :p |
| 22:46.29 | rubik | "Voice chat will be added to the game free of charge," |
| 22:46.36 | sbu | well - i think its in the game |
| 22:46.39 | Xuerian | rubik: Where at? |
| 22:46.43 | sbu | so you need to run the game |
| 22:46.47 | rubik | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/news.html?page=1&sid=6174183&part=rss&tag=gs_all_games&subj=6174183 |
| 22:46.50 | art3mis | no thats what i mean |
| 22:46.51 | sbu | so wow error would kill both - game + voice stuff |
| 22:46.52 | rubik | 30% down the page |
| 22:47.08 | art3mis | the server and stuff is run seperately at wow start or sumtin |
| 22:47.13 | rubik | "and will use onscreen icons to indicate who's saying what, so that you'll be able to quickly determine which team member in your party is asking for help." |
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| 22:47.33 | art3mis | s/asking for help/being a dick/g |
| 22:47.49 | Xuerian | hey, as a raid healer I love the idea |
| 22:47.49 | NeoTron | Matrix110: the DC issue is the main reason I wouldn't expect it to replace Vent for raiding |
| 22:47.50 | rubik | ^^ as long as it's not a ranged dps that pulled aggro off me... cause then i won't care if he needs help and an icon lights up.. :P |
| 22:47.57 | Xuerian | Someone jerks off on chat I can not heal them |
| 22:48.14 | Strigoi|LR | hmm strange violation is not "reading" DM and SWS data at all for some reason |
| 22:48.20 | NeoTron | if it plugs into WoW, that'd be better |
| 22:48.24 | Matrix110 | Well being in a guild you know the voices normally |
| 22:48.25 | NeoTron | so it's independant of wow |
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| 22:48.41 | art3mis | BattleChat(tm) |
| 22:48.52 | sbu | NeoTron: ack |
| 22:49.01 | sbu | but not going to happen i think... |
| 22:49.03 | art3mis | you log through battle.net and play through wow servers ;P |
| 22:49.17 | sbu | because plug into game -> possible interface open to abuse :o |
| 22:49.56 | art3mis | JoiN DJSpaNKYPaNTs'Raid-io! |
| 22:50.09 | art3mis | x100000000000000000 |
| 22:50.11 | art3mis | on trade |
| 22:50.36 | Coruss | ol |
| 22:50.38 | Coruss | *lol |
| 22:51.14 | art3mis | IVE GOT BALLS OF STEEL |
| 22:51.19 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=jcqwfdkl5zuoy&ab=184 <-- check out my SB crit >:-) |
| 22:51.33 | Fisker- | STEEEEEEEEEEL |
| 22:51.35 | Fisker- | BALLS |
| 22:51.36 | Fisker- | BALLS |
| 22:51.37 | Fisker- | STEEEEEEEEEEL |
| 22:51.42 | Fisker- | I'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL |
| 22:51.44 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 22:51.51 | art3mis | nice neo |
| 22:51.51 | yacoob | can you make a "pause" in macro? |
| 22:51.57 | art3mis | did you have and sp with ya? |
| 22:52.05 | Matrix110 | roflmao |
| 22:52.07 | Matrix110 | I have a level 375 cook on an RP server and she is a vegetarian dranei chef, however there are almost NO recipes at that level that don't require meat or fish of some sort. Could you PLEASE make some vegetarian recipes for the higher level cooks who don't eat fish or meat?" |
| 22:52.24 | art3mis | hahahahahahaha |
| 22:52.28 | Coruss | lol |
| 22:52.29 | NeoTron | so that's with: CoS, misery, shadow weaving, SB crit debuff, trinket and possibly equipment procs, Power Infusion |
| 22:52.30 | art3mis | fucking vegans |
| 22:52.36 | NeoTron | and sacced succubus of course |
| 22:52.52 | Fisker- | fish is ok if you're a vegetarian |
| 22:52.53 | Fisker- | n00b |
| 22:52.53 | NeoTron | I think it came out to a 2.1 damage multiplier |
| 22:52.59 | art3mis | succubi in the sac |
| 22:53.02 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43666 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Changed TPS from an IIR filter to a moving average, last 15 threat events. Hopefully more accurate and CPU friendly. Tell me if it breaks. |
| 22:53.05 | Matrix110 | I made a 152k Fireball crit beat that! |
| 22:53.11 | Matrix110 | (too bad iam not fire specced) |
| 22:53.15 | Fisker- | I made a 1 TRILLION LOLWUT crit |
| 22:53.15 | yacoob | ...anyone? :) |
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| 22:53.19 | Coruss | I wonder if any other class could hit that damage |
| 22:53.21 | art3mis | i had a 15k mindflay |
| 22:53.26 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: what are you using to save frame possition for Omen? |
| 22:53.31 | NeoTron | heh. it beat my previous crit by almost 1000 dmg |
| 22:53.36 | art3mis | well technically it was a mobs err mind blast |
| 22:53.40 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: What do you mean? |
| 22:53.54 | Antiarc|Work | I store its location in the SV, if that's what you mean |
| 22:54.01 | art3mis | i miss the old shadow lab priests |
| 22:54.01 | NeoTron | but I've had significantly higher SB crits on mobs like curator, mag etc but that doesn't count |
| 22:54.03 | Matrix110 | There is a mob in BEM that can get a debuff Fire Damage increased by 50000 |
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| 22:54.08 | Matrix110 | its quite funny:P |
| 22:54.10 | art3mis | 980 pain ticks |
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| 22:54.14 | Antiarc|Work | (I kinda have to, since WoW assumes that all frames it restores are anchored to TOPLEFT) |
| 22:54.38 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: ok was thinking maybe you were having the game save its location, because the location keeps reseting for me |
| 22:54.48 | Matrix110 | Gets changed in 2.2 the anchoring! |
| 22:54.50 | art3mis | Arrowmaster: thats code changes ;P |
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| 22:55.11 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: i managed to screenshot the weird behaviour today, what i told you some days ago .. with no aggro bar and tank on weird percentages |
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| 22:55.28 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: Ooh, yay :D |
| 22:55.41 | Pkekyo | I've got a problem: whenever my character pane is up, and I open the enchanting-window, the character window closes and vice versa...also applies with guild window etc...anyone able to help me? |
| 22:55.44 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_071207_224604.jpg |
| 22:55.46 | yacoob | stop this 'I have larger one' nonsens and answer my simple question! 8) |
| 22:56.03 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: as you can see through the targettarget window, the tank actually is tanking |
| 22:56.05 | nevcairiel | and all |
| 22:56.08 | NeoTron | yacoob: afaik you can't add a pause |
| 22:56.31 | NeoTron | only way to do that is with an input device / hardware macros |
| 22:56.35 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. I see the tank at the top of the TPS list, but no aggro bar. |
| 22:56.37 | NeoTron | which, of course, blizzard doesn't like |
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| 22:56.55 | nevcairiel | no aggro bar, and the tank has 650% :P |
| 22:57.07 | nevcairiel | clearing target, and retargeting works |
| 22:57.32 | yacoob | NeoTron, too bad :( |
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| 22:57.55 | Antiarc|Work | Okay, I think I know what it is then |
| 22:57.56 | pb_ee1 | What is wrong with "[RepName:RepColor][~IsMouseOver?FractionalRep]"? |
| 22:57.57 | Antiarc|Work | thanks |
| 22:58.42 | pb_ee1 | It really starts to bug me :'( "RepColor" always produces an error |
| 22:59.50 | rubik | nevcairiel: what raid unit frames are those? |
| 23:00.12 | nevcairiel | rubik: sRaidFrames |
| 23:00.24 | rubik | kthx |
| 23:00.27 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1l6aBgX5UY |
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| 23:01.11 | sbu | nevcairiel: i have larger sRaidFrames! |
| 23:01.36 | nevcairiel | sbu: and i have skillz |
| 23:01.55 | NightHawkAtWork | your mom has skillz |
| 23:02.04 | rubik | wow.. mosaic browser flashback |
| 23:02.34 | sbu | NightHawkAtWork: mh yes... otherwise he wouldnt be here, mh? :/ |
| 23:02.47 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: any idea? :'( |
| 23:03.33 | NightHawkAtWork | sbu: indeed. |
| 23:03.56 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: woah. |
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| 23:06.52 | NeoTron | OMG most boring movie ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO2PBx1UIV4 |
| 23:07.38 | NeoTron | oh man he has a whole collection: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=albertinemeunier |
| 23:07.48 | NightHawkAtWork | thats amusing |
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| 23:12.24 | ulic | is it possible to hook a function from another addon? |
| 23:13.05 | Chompers | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1l6aBgX5UY |
| 23:13.12 | Chompers | WORST. STUNT. EVER. |
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| 23:13.16 | Ominous | Right i am about to go away for 2 weeks :D |
| 23:13.25 | Knaledge | SKI? |
| 23:13.27 | Knaledge | CKI? |
| 23:13.29 | Knaledge | what was it? |
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| 23:13.57 | Knaledge | there's a new, unreleased, second versio of it.. KSI ? Something about auction scanning, etc. |
| 23:14.06 | kaiden^ | meh, Blacksmithing question for the knowledgable...d o you still go to bootybay to train 225-300? |
| 23:14.18 | Ominous | I am going on holiday until the 28th June ( may have internet there i am not sure) please pm me any questions or post on ClassTimer topic if relivant |
| 23:14.35 | Dotted | anyone aware of a notepad like addon? |
| 23:14.41 | kaiden^ | Dotted, Omnibus |
| 23:14.49 | Dotted | ty |
| 23:15.30 | Chompers | notepad++ |
| 23:16.05 | charon | is there a good reason why we can't inspect horde? i mean these days we can look them up on armory but alt-tabbing sucks |
| 23:16.19 | Knaledge | they have hax equipped |
| 23:16.22 | Knaledge | it's all GMs |
| 23:16.25 | Knaledge | take the red pill |
| 23:18.19 | Kemayo | ulic: Yes. |
| 23:18.39 | Knaledge | How's about this |
| 23:18.52 | Knaledge | So I'm using FactionItemsFU |
| 23:19.19 | Knaledge | Thing is... I was hoping for something just like that but in addition, something that would tell me basd on how much of the item I have, it would yield X amount of rep |
| 23:19.43 | Knaledge | Anything that is exactly like FactionItemsFU but also tells me how much rep I'd yield considering the number of items it is tracking? |
| 23:19.55 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: seems that the "RepColor" does not work in DogTag |
| 23:20.01 | kaiden^ | Knaledge, that's what /print is for :) turn 1 in, find out how much each gives |
| 23:20.08 | kaiden^ | then /print and calc it up |
| 23:20.09 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 23:20.15 | Knaledge | hah |
| 23:20.20 | Knaledge | yeah yeah I know it's basic math |
| 23:20.33 | Knaledge | but I have recently purchased 750~ sunfury signets |
| 23:20.38 | Knaledge | and the numebr keeps growing |
| 23:20.49 | Knaledge | I just want an "at a glance" feature to it or something like it |
| 23:22.09 | ulic | Kemayo: ok, guess I'll just keep learning then, just wanted to make sure it was possible :) |
| 23:22.32 | Knaledge | Ulic what addons do you do? |
| 23:22.43 | Knaledge | I've seen the name somewhere |
| 23:23.35 | ulic | the only one published right now is LittleWigs, which is just more of modules than an actual addon |
| 23:23.49 | Knaledge | ah ok cool :) |
| 23:23.51 | Dotted | ping nevcairiel |
| 23:24.00 | Knaledge | I have that installed I just don't use it yet |
| 23:25.16 | Knaledge | A nice ACE based LootLink alternative would be awesome too.. |
| 23:25.32 | pakoz2 | yo |
| 23:25.33 | Knaledge | Saeris' LootLink is by far the best I've used non-Ace but that addon is so dead right now |
| 23:25.45 | pakoz2 | getting error after updating threat/omen |
| 23:25.54 | pakoz2 | http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5144/untitledgg9.jpg |
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| 23:27.28 | Pkekyo | I've got a problem: whenever my character pane is up, and I open the enchanting-window, the character window closes and vice versa...also applies with guild window etc...anyone able to help me? |
| 23:29.01 | Knaledge | download and install FluidFrames perhaps |
| 23:29.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43667 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for nil TPS indexes |
| 23:29.07 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks, pakoz2. ^-- fix :) |
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| 23:29.57 | pakoz2 | cool |
| 23:30.04 | pakoz2 | was it just that extra "t"? |
| 23:31.15 | dodgizzla | Hmmm, can I somehow convince FuBar to not immediately show up when I mouseover it? I got a panel at the bottom of my screen, where also my action bars are and when I go too fast into my lower right corner for bandages I always get FuBar to pop up :\ |
| 23:32.15 | ulic | dodgizzla: there is a hide in combat option |
| 23:33.52 | Kalman| | Knaledge: KC_Items, aka KCI? |
| 23:33.56 | Kalman| | Kaelten released it for Ace2. |
| 23:34.08 | Kalman| | Doesn't have the lootlink type functionality as of yet, though; not sure if it's planned or not. |
| 23:34.44 | Knaledge | Possibly |
| 23:34.58 | Knaledge | oh oh thought you were talking about my question from before |
| 23:35.06 | Knaledge | is KCI2 doing auction scanning too? |
| 23:35.09 | Kalman| | Yes. |
| 23:35.16 | Knaledge | ah ok cool. |
| 23:35.22 | Kalman| | Right now it does some tooltip mod stuff but primarily AH scanning/tooltip AH price info. |
| 23:35.26 | dodgizzla | ulic: What! Where :D |
| 23:35.27 | Knaledge | One question though... |
| 23:35.43 | Knaledge | I have RatingBuster installed but everytime I mouseover objects |
| 23:35.48 | dodgizzla | ulic: Actually I don't want to hide it in combat, because somehow I need to show Violation when I forget it before combat starts |
| 23:35.50 | Knaledge | my Informant mem usage skyrockets.. |
| 23:36.06 | Knaledge | Is there any reason why RatingBuster is touching Informant? |
| 23:36.31 | Knaledge | Iv'e gotten Informant to use up to 12MB of UI mem |
| 23:36.49 | Arrowmaster | dont use informant? |
| 23:37.00 | Knaledge | I use it to show me the sell price of items to vendors |
| 23:37.07 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43668 10AuldLangSyne/lib/: AuldLangSyne: Fix lib externals. |
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| 23:37.30 | Knaledge | @kemayo: saw that post on wowinterface? |
| 23:38.00 | Jaxon | Knaledge: check out SellFish. Informant is rather large for just that single function that you use it for. |
| 23:38.25 | Tuller | or itemprice because I'm lazy :) |
| 23:38.35 | Knaledge | @Jaxon: What is SellFish? I ONLY use Informant to show me the sell price of items to vendors. That's it. I DO like how it shows inside the tooltip however. |
| 23:39.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Sellfish does the same thing, but with less suckage. |
| 23:39.06 | Knaledge | weird caps.. sorry |
| 23:39.13 | Jaxon | Knaledge: it shows the sell prices of items in the tooltip, except, since that is the ONLY thing that it does, it is significantly less of an impact on the UI and plays nicely with other tooltip mods. |
| 23:39.27 | Knaledge | will it also show me if an item is used for a quest |
| 23:39.37 | NightHawkAtWork | no |
| 23:39.41 | Knaledge | and does it show this info in a tooltip even if the item is a quest reward? |
| 23:39.52 | Jaxon | Knaledge: that would be outside the scope of a simple addon. And yes, any item tooltips. |
| 23:39.55 | NightHawkAtWork | if it can be sold to a vendor, it will show you a sell price. |
| 23:39.56 | Kemayo | Knaledge: A-yup. |
| 23:39.59 | Jaxon | Knaledge: I use MonkeyQuest to tag quest items. |
| 23:40.07 | Knaledge | That's true Jaxon |
| 23:40.11 | Knaledge | I use QuestsFu |
| 23:40.35 | Knaledge | I suppose QuestsFu + Informant (+enhTooltip + Stubby) is a bit much and overlap |
| 23:41.00 | Knaledge | Which is kept up to date more/better reputed in the community: ItemPriceTooltips or SellFish? |
| 23:41.24 | mikma | yes |
| 23:41.33 | Coruss | I use informant sheerly for quest item vendor values |
| 23:41.58 | Kemayo | Coruss: Definitely use SellFish (or similar) then. |
| 23:42.10 | Coruss | is SellFish aced? |
| 23:42.11 | Knaledge | well on avg Informant is listed as using 3.07MB of UI mem |
| 23:42.19 | Tuller | damn it, you're going to make me update sellfish |
| 23:42.29 | Coruss | lol update! |
| 23:42.43 | Kemayo | Corus: I don't think it is. It's not really something that needs to be, though. |
| 23:42.57 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0.lua: attempt to get length of local 'tTPS' (a nil value) |
| 23:43.05 | durcyn | same for gTPS |
| 23:43.07 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: Already fixed and checked in |
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| 23:43.08 | Knaledge | isn't there a lib it could use though? |
| 23:43.15 | durcyn | ah, didn't see CIA |
| 23:43.18 | Coruss | well does sellfish have item categories? i.e. quest item, craft reagent for x crafts, etc |
| 23:43.39 | Tuller | itempricetooltip is on the SVN, which I would assume means there are more updates to its main database |
| 23:43.39 | Kemayo | Coruss: Nope. You might want to look into Mendeleev for that. |
| 23:43.55 | Knaledge | arm7_fix |
| 23:43.59 | cladhaire | hehe.. i love sellfish |
| 23:44.01 | Knaledge | woops |
| 23:44.05 | Coruss | lol, Informant does |
| 23:44.21 | Knaledge | I don't dispute Informants usefulness, Coruss |
| 23:44.23 | Kemayo | sellfish plus whatever it is that tekkub wrote to autohilight the highest-valued quest reward... |
| 23:44.31 | Tuller | vendorbait |
| 23:44.32 | Knaledge | I'm just interested in an alternative that better suits what I need now. |
| 23:44.40 | Coruss | then where's the overlap between it and questsfu? |
| 23:44.46 | Knaledge | I have a bit of UI overlap now as far as addons and I want something that uses less UI mem |
| 23:44.59 | Knaledge | Because QuestsFu tells me if it is a quest item |
| 23:45.04 | Knaledge | and I'm level 67 |
| 23:45.09 | Knaledge | I can tell if a bandage is a consumable or not |
| 23:45.26 | Kemayo | Does informant actually tell you what quest an item is for nowadays, then? |
| 23:45.33 | Coruss | no |
| 23:45.33 | Knaledge | no |
| 23:45.42 | Knaledge | It just says "Used in X Quests" |
| 23:45.50 | Coruss | it just says that it's a quest item, which is nigh useless |
| 23:45.53 | Knaledge | x=quantity |
| 23:46.22 | Knaledge | QuestsFu does the same basically except it tells me for what quest... although it must be a current quest. |
| 23:46.38 | Coruss | I use it for the vendor prices of greys to decide what to junk when my bags get full, and for the random white items that I don't know of, it tells me what crafts they can be used in |
| 23:46.40 | Knaledge | Then again, I don't have many items that I'd carry for non quests and it's fairly easy to spot a "rep turn in" item |
| 23:47.08 | Knaledge | @Coruss: I agree that functionality is useful but I've seem to outgrown it. |
| 23:47.16 | Knaledge | I still will use it on my bank |
| 23:47.23 | Knaledge | but on my main I want as slim a UI as possible |
| 23:47.29 | Kemayo | Coruss: I like SellFish + GarbageFu for that functionality. |
| 23:47.59 | Knaledge | right now my top 3 UI mem users are LootLink @ 8-10MB, Informant @ 3.10MB, and then AtlasLoot at 1.6MB |
| 23:48.15 | Kemayo | Aha, finally remembered. |
| 23:48.21 | Kemayo | Try Ludwig as a LootLink replacement. |
| 23:48.36 | Coruss | Knaledge: how heavily can UI addons affect frame rate? |
| 23:48.36 | Knaledge | not to mention - just now when checking my top3 EnhTooltip was using 7MB of UI mem for WHATEVER reason... |
| 23:48.49 | Knaledge | Not heavily at all really.. |
| 23:49.01 | Knaledge | but I suppose that means I should absorb as much UI mem as possible huh? |
| 23:49.11 | Coruss | lol no |
| 23:49.24 | Knaledge | I run a Mac Pro with 4GB of RAM |
| 23:49.26 | Knaledge | I'm not worried. |
| 23:49.27 | Kemayo | Knaledge: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5174-Ludwig.html |
| 23:49.32 | Knaledge | thanks Kemayo |
| 23:49.37 | Coruss | I was about to ask, my total UI usage is around 16MB, was wondering if that's high and if it could affect my fps |
| 23:49.40 | Kemayo | Man, I just keep pimping Tuller's mods today... |
| 23:49.53 | Coruss | I'm on a Macbook Pro w/2GB ram, so I'm not that worried either |
| 23:49.54 | Pkekyo | I've got a problem: whenever my character pane is up, and I open the enchanting-window, the character window closes and vice versa...also applies with guild window etc...anyone able to help me? |
| 23:49.59 | Knaledge | Tuller I don't know you but I might be a pain in your ass since I tend to bug developers into fixing shit. |
| 23:50.38 | Kemayo | Coruss: 16 is on the low side. You can't tell from memory usage how much an addon will impact framerate -- it depends entirely on how much data processing it does and how frequently. |
| 23:50.52 | Knaledge | Ok yes I agree with Kemayo there |
| 23:51.00 | Knaledge | yes addons affect framerate if the CPU is hogged |
| 23:51.17 | Knaledge | for me its WAYYY less noticeable since I have 4 cores and WoW on Mac is somewhat SMP |
| 23:51.40 | Knaledge | but I'll be damned if just mousing over a tooltip causes another addon to shoot up to 10MB of UI mem usage |
| 23:51.52 | Knaledge | *item |
| 23:52.24 | Kemayo | Coruss: An addon having a high memory footprint *might* mean that it's doing a lot of data-processing. Or it might mean that it's caching a lot of things with negligible speed impact. You can't tell the difference without running a profiler for a while. |
| 23:52.27 | NeoTron | ludwig seems interesting |
| 23:52.37 | Coruss | hmmm, I have been getting weird framedrops lately, it'll plummet to 15fps from 70, and back and forth a bit, I had figured it might be addons |
| 23:52.47 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43669 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Floor threat decay at 0. |
| 23:53.00 | Coruss | Kemayo: is there an addon I can use to profile my addons? |
| 23:53.17 | starlon | Mine does that when my video card gets hot. |
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| 23:53.25 | kenlyric | check to see if your cpu goes to 100% |
| 23:53.29 | Kemayo | Coruss: PerformanceFu works pretty well. (Note, however, that running with CPU profiling enabled will slow things down noticibly.) |
| 23:53.41 | kenlyric | mine does, and I think it's an issue with onboard sound and vista. |
| 23:54.16 | Coruss | starlon: possible, but I've had it happen even when fairly cool |
| 23:54.16 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43670 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Floor global TPS too. |
| 23:54.18 | Coruss | kenlyric: it doesn't, usually never goes over 70% total usage |
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| 23:54.30 | kenlyric | oh, well that rules out most outside problems. |
| 23:54.42 | Coruss | Kemayo: I've got performancefu, I'll try it with profiling on |
| 23:54.47 | kenlyric | I alsh had my cpu go to 100% when I forgot to plug in the graphics card :) |
| 23:54.50 | Knaledge | Funnily enough all the people that used to post on Saeris' LootLink post on Ludwig now |
| 23:55.01 | Coruss | hehe |
| 23:55.05 | Kalman| | kenlyric: I'm starting to wonder if my onboard sound isn't playing nice with Vista, especially since Vent takes 4-5 seconds to initialize. |
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| 23:55.27 | Coruss | later all |
| 23:55.28 | Kalman| | But only when it needs to play a sound; it loads fine, but hangs when sound needs to be spit out. |
| 23:55.29 | Jaxon | Kalman|: I'd toally blame Vista for everything |
| 23:55.30 | kenlyric | Kalman|: somewhere, there's a blue post about known problems with onboard sound and vista. |
| 23:55.32 | Knaledge | Onboard sound issues were a major hassle in beta |
| 23:55.57 | kenlyric | my home computer and work computer are almost the same, and one is fine and the other pushes 100% cpu, and the one that doesn't processes sound through the usb headphones. |
| 23:56.00 | Knaledge | I was testing for Dell with Vista |
| 23:56.30 | Knaledge | oboard sound in dell workstations = how they do business. Vista = pwns Dell PC's using onbboard sound. |
| 23:56.34 | Knaledge | which in turn = suck. |
| 23:56.38 | kenlyric | one solution is to set your sound channels one higher than the minimum. |
| 23:56.53 | Kalman| | ... interesting. |
| 23:56.54 | kenlyric | didn't work for me, but I guess it works for others. |
| 23:57.22 | Knaledge | So Tuller are you there? |
| 23:57.27 | kenlyric | problem is if you turn off sound, it doesn't seem to stop processing sound. |
| 23:57.36 | Tuller | yep |
| 23:57.55 | Knaledge | @ Tuller: Is that issue still in existence with the whole... while Ludwig is up can't chat? |
| 23:58.01 | kenlyric | it's not all that bad, wow and computer still run fine. |
| 23:58.15 | Knaledge | and also how would your addon react to 24000+ items stored and what type of UI mem usage would that result in? |
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| 23:58.31 | Knaledge | Saeris LootLink atm uses about 8-10MB with 24,742 items stored |
| 23:58.47 | Tuller | Knaledge: I've not been able to replicate the issue yet |
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| 23:59.34 | Knaledge | So say I want to search an item. I find it. I hit escape to drop focus from Ludwig, hit enter to open chatframe, then shift+click on the item in ludwig and I'm good? |
| 23:59.47 | Tuller | yes |
| 23:59.52 | Knaledge | that seems fair enough to me |
