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| 00:04.40 | Mudkips | holy shit |
| 00:04.50 | Mudkips | instant mail between account characters? |
| 00:04.54 | phyphor | yep |
| 00:05.16 | phyphor | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174502532&sid=1 |
| 00:05.24 | phyphor | (as linked to me earlier) |
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| 00:11.09 | Antiarc | http://mcsweeneys.net/2007/7/9weaver.html |
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| 00:12.42 | Ominous_ | what was the name of the datamining script to mine wow-armory for taelent info (not tattle) |
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| 00:21.53 | NeoTron | does anyone have WWS stats for SSC/TK fights I could view (anonoymously or not)? Specifically interested in guilds that are still progessing there |
| 00:22.01 | NeoTron | rather than being guilds that farm them |
| 00:23.06 | Aenslaed | what aspect of it are you looking for? |
| 00:23.36 | NeoTron | relative dps of various classes primarily |
| 00:23.54 | NeoTron | things like rogue, mage, hunter dps |
| 00:24.02 | NeoTron | vs warlocks, ele shamans etc |
| 00:24.23 | NeoTron | our rogue/mage dps seems low |
| 00:24.27 | Aenslaed | rogues and hunters tend to top the meters regardless of the fight |
| 00:24.38 | Aenslaed | certain fights are exceptions |
| 00:24.44 | NeoTron | not so much |
| 00:24.52 | NeoTron | we typically have 3-5 warlocks topping any dmg meter |
| 00:25.05 | Aenslaed | mages are middle of the pack. warlocks are middle of the pack as well. elemental shamans are fight specific |
| 00:25.19 | Aenslaed | warlocks only do well if the rest of the raid's dps is bad |
| 00:26.10 | NeoTron | or you have bad locks |
| 00:26.36 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r43425 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Finally made this thing work. |
| 00:26.52 | Aenslaed | maybe, but our progress wouldnt indicate it. |
| 00:26.55 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=eyghd6zkfgqoy |
| 00:26.58 | charon | did the european servers just go down 30min early or am i too tired to play |
| 00:27.22 | Aenslaed | which fight is this? |
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| 00:27.29 | Aenslaed | which boss* |
| 00:27.35 | NeoTron | that's VR, mag, hydross and lurker |
| 00:27.48 | Aenslaed | all combined into one meter? |
| 00:27.50 | Thorgard | Hey, hyperChipmunk. *poke* 'Sup with the stack overflows in BulkMail? ;P |
| 00:27.51 | NeoTron | +trash of course |
| 00:28.03 | NeoTron | click on full report to select the individual boss fights.. |
| 00:28.04 | Aenslaed | well, thats no good for a meter. |
| 00:28.15 | Aenslaed | ah, ok |
| 00:28.38 | NeoTron | and I'm not saying our lock dps is over the top amazing |
| 00:28.44 | NeoTron | only that our other dps is n't where it should be |
| 00:28.51 | Aenslaed | yeah, your VR meters tell me that your hunters are pretty bad. Rogues are awful beyond belief. |
| 00:29.14 | vhaarr | god your rogues suck, haha |
| 00:29.23 | NeoTron | I think they used heavy AR gear |
| 00:29.27 | NeoTron | for VR |
| 00:29.39 | Aenslaed | eh... |
| 00:29.46 | vhaarr | AR? |
| 00:29.48 | vhaarr | just tank'n'spank |
| 00:29.49 | NeoTron | to avoid running out |
| 00:30.06 | vhaarr | smack your healers, we outhealed 10 melee on him last time with no problems |
| 00:30.07 | Aenslaed | just stick a holy priest with two shadow priests to circle of heal spam them, or a resto shaman |
| 00:30.33 | NeoTron | we just got another priest but have hd some healign issues |
| 00:30.34 | Aenslaed | wow at that lurker below meter |
| 00:30.35 | vhaarr | NeoTron: your healer meters speak for themselves, tbh |
| 00:30.37 | Aenslaed | thats really really bad. |
| 00:30.51 | phyphor | charon Azjol-nerub (Europe) is up |
| 00:31.05 | NeoTron | dps? |
| 00:31.17 | Aenslaed | heh, pallies with almost 50% overheal. Thats awful |
| 00:31.20 | NeoTron | well |
| 00:31.32 | NeoTron | they sit with a shadow priest underwater and have nearly infinite mana |
| 00:31.37 | NeoTron | no reason for them not to overheal |
| 00:31.55 | Aenslaed | overhealing is being lazy |
| 00:31.56 | KarlThePagan | esp when heal crits are cheap |
| 00:32.03 | vhaarr | on void reaver as well |
| 00:32.04 | NeoTron | overhealing is only bad when you run out of mana |
| 00:32.10 | vhaarr | paladins with 45-55% overhealing |
| 00:32.12 | KarlThePagan | and void reaver is a special case yea |
| 00:32.20 | phyphor | With a shadow priest VE/VT then it canbe easy to overheal |
| 00:32.24 | KarlThePagan | 4-5 tanks - rapidly switching tanks |
| 00:32.29 | KarlThePagan | also contributes a lot to overhealing |
| 00:32.31 | vhaarr | NeoTron: our healers are all within 2% efficient healing done of eachother, so to speak |
| 00:32.41 | phyphor | I meant it in both senses |
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| 00:32.44 | NeoTron | show me the meters :P |
| 00:32.50 | phyphor | A shad-priest will overheal, and mean so will others |
| 00:32.52 | NeoTron | seriously I don't think the paladins have a mana issue at all |
| 00:32.52 | vhaarr | I don't have a web interface |
| 00:33.06 | vhaarr | NeoTron: seriously, if you need to use AR on VR, your healers need smacking |
| 00:33.06 | NeoTron | in fact they say VR is rathe easy healing (which is why I think they can manage the rogue healing np) |
| 00:33.18 | NeoTron | it's a choice from the rogues |
| 00:33.27 | NeoTron | we've only killed these bosses like 2-3 times |
| 00:33.34 | KarlThePagan | VR healing is... 2-3 shamans spamming chain heal on the tanks... GG |
| 00:33.48 | NeoTron | we have one (reluctant) resto shaman |
| 00:33.50 | NeoTron | can't find any others |
| 00:34.02 | sbu | NeoTron: hmm 1 moment |
| 00:34.08 | KarlThePagan | yea take him to VR he'll be #1 healer |
| 00:34.53 | Codayus | VR without a resto shaman or CoH priest is kind of...frustrating. |
| 00:34.57 | KarlThePagan | but I'll admit we've only downed VR once |
| 00:35.11 | KarlThePagan | yea we also had a priest who had just respecc'd CoH |
| 00:35.12 | NeoTron | wtf |
| 00:35.23 | KarlThePagan | but I'm not sure that it was too efficient in terms of HpM |
| 00:35.28 | NeoTron | semes like he's missed every VR or I muissed him in the stats |
| 00:35.40 | sbu | NeoTron: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=guxsaxyqwwwxm&s=3334-4151 - firstkill tidewalker today |
| 00:35.42 | phyphor | I've not heard anything good about CoH |
| 00:35.51 | Codayus | CoH is...actually not as bad as its reputation would indicate. :-) |
| 00:36.06 | hypetech | circle of healing is amazing for BC content |
| 00:36.16 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 00:36.19 | Aenslaed | coh is alot better than it was at the start of tbc |
| 00:36.20 | sbu | NeoTron: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=4fbwdku621ing&s=11457-12013 void reaver last week (actually our third kill) |
| 00:36.31 | Aenslaed | the simple fact that its instant and can heal a group is very useful |
| 00:36.45 | Codayus | Highly situational, but as you start pushing 2k healing...it's actually good. |
| 00:36.59 | KarlThePagan | yea I went shadow before I broke 1.2k healing ;) |
| 00:37.18 | KarlThePagan | I don't think I would be forgiven if i went back to holy ;) |
| 00:37.21 | Aenslaed | http://www.hcguild.org/WWS/wws-20070529-2207/index.html |
| 00:37.25 | Codayus | Of course, if you have 1 holy priest you probably want him to have Imp DS instead. And if you have 2 holy priests you probably want to trade the 2nd one for a resto shaman. >< |
| 00:37.33 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=but3otlnrxexm |
| 00:37.38 | Aenslaed | here's an example of our lurker from a ways back |
| 00:37.52 | NeoTron | sbu: we killed him a lot faster :P |
| 00:37.57 | KarlThePagan | Codayus, very true |
| 00:38.01 | Aenslaed | two months ago almost |
| 00:38.19 | Aenslaed | warlocks are, destruction lock contritum, imp bitch doomay, alt imberlyn |
| 00:38.21 | sbu | NeoTron: mh yep :p |
| 00:39.06 | sbu | NeoTron: 4 locks vs. 3 locks (1 dead after ~1min) |
| 00:39.07 | Aenslaed | http://www.hcguild.org/WWS/wws-20070606-1835/index.html |
| 00:39.09 | sbu | should do it :p |
| 00:39.12 | Aenslaed | another lurker a week later. |
| 00:39.12 | Codayus | My guild is in the somewhat unfortunate position of having 1 tree druid, 1 holy paladin, and ~4 holy priests. Not coincidentally, we're actively recruiting resto shamans and holy pallies. >< |
| 00:39.31 | Aenslaed | Codayus: ouch |
| 00:39.48 | NeoTron | we could use 2 resto shamans |
| 00:40.02 | NeoTron | so the reluctant one can to back to enhance and buff the melee dps |
| 00:40.03 | Thrae | Codayus: Full of Resto Druids already? |
| 00:40.13 | Aenslaed | yeah, my guild is still looking for 1 more resto shaman. We're good on all the other healing slots though. |
| 00:40.19 | NeoTron | Aenslaed: so your warlocks are actually pretty crappy |
| 00:40.35 | Aenslaed | NeoTron: no, more like the shorter the fight, the worst warlocks do |
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| 00:40.46 | Thrae | Codayus: Come on, I don't believe only ONE Healing Druid is required =/ |
| 00:40.46 | Aenslaed | worse* |
| 00:40.53 | Codayus | Thrae: We'd probably take one if one applied, but honestly, you don't gain much from stacking a raid with resto druids. |
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| 00:41.17 | Aenslaed | one resto druid is nice |
| 00:41.26 | Aenslaed | two is counter productive |
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| 00:41.35 | sbu | NeoTron: and it was painful w/o shadow priest for healer grp.. somehing like 5 mana pots for me |
| 00:41.41 | NeoTron | Aenslaed: lurker is not that short |
| 00:41.44 | Codayus | Tree form aura is underwhelming. A 2nd or 3rd paladin is another blessing. A 2nd or 3rd shaman is another heroism, GoA, WF, etc. |
| 00:41.46 | Thrae | Codayus: Well, I was actually thinking of Hybrid magicks if your guild is up to non-cookie-cutter |
| 00:41.51 | Aenslaed | NeoTron: its 7 minutes for us |
| 00:42.01 | Thrae | Cookie-cutter guilds suck, IMO |
| 00:42.05 | hypetech | 7 minute lurker? |
| 00:42.12 | hypetech | how much health does he have? |
| 00:42.15 | Aenslaed | 7-9 minutes depending on how many spouts |
| 00:42.17 | NeoTron | if it's longer than 1 minute a warlock dps will be about as good as it gets |
| 00:42.21 | Codayus | Thrae: HT dreamstate? Meh. Also underwhelming in my experience, hence why we're not recruiting. |
| 00:42.24 | Thrae | Then again, I don't care about getting the best year in 1 week or 12 months, I just like to get it eventually ;) |
| 00:42.25 | Scumbag | Hello! I'm just learning how to write addons, and I'd like a guild invite to the Horde guild on Draka, so I can ask some questions. Name's Crotch. (Yes, "Crotch") |
| 00:42.27 | NeoTron | meaning you don't whave to wait for others to go oom before warlock dps is good |
| 00:42.31 | NeoTron | relatively speaking it's always good |
| 00:42.40 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43426 10DrDamage/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:42.40 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:42.40 | CIA-22 | - Added missing t4/t5 set bonuses for druids, hunters, paladins, rogues, shamans and warriors |
| 00:42.51 | Codayus | Or whatever that talent is called... |
| 00:43.01 | Gagorian | Phew. |
| 00:43.16 | Codayus | But one of the guild principles is "spec how you want"; we do not ever enforce specs. (Yeah, we're casual...) |
| 00:43.18 | Thrae | Codayus: What? I was talking about Balance/Resto hybrids w/ good gear, and Balance or Feral Hybrids with even better gear. And of course, in all instances, -proven- healing skills. |
| 00:43.27 | NeoTron | it was unfortunately a failed attempt because he bugged... but I did 10% dmg in one lurker attempt (1239 dps with only 59% dps uptime due to running around a lot) |
| 00:43.41 | Aenslaed | best setup on healers we've found was 1 holy priest, 1 resto druid, 2 resto shamans, 3 holy pallys |
| 00:43.48 | Thrae | I've been healing as a Feral Druid when needed fine with the healing gear I've been accumlating (though I dun wanna heal, of course) |
| 00:43.52 | NeoTron | and yes I had a nice group setup |
| 00:44.08 | Codayus | Balance Resto hybrid = Dreamstate HT spamming buuld, right? |
| 00:44.10 | Aenslaed | Thrae: lol, I had to heal for the first time in half a year on najentus last night |
| 00:44.22 | Aenslaed | cause one of our pallies got locked out for some retarded reason. |
| 00:44.33 | Kaelten | one thing people should realize about the ads is that if the good ads don't get clicked on then the bad ads are the only ones I can get |
| 00:44.41 | Kaelten | I get better ads the better the ads improve |
| 00:44.55 | Kaelten | ads performance improves |
| 00:45.05 | Thrae | Codayus: Something like that from what I hear on Druid forums...I've only played a Feral Druid up to high levels |
| 00:45.35 | Aenslaed | but why would you use HT anymore -_- |
| 00:45.36 | Antiarc | ckknight: Has [GuildNote] made it in yet? |
| 00:45.45 | phyphor | Kaelten I've been clicking through but it's pretty annoying that it calls IE and not FF |
| 00:45.46 | Aenslaed | its all about lifebloom/rejuv/swiftmend |
| 00:45.50 | Codayus | Thrae: In my experience, the balance/resto HT builds are a bit weak. The real power of druid healing is in Lifebloom. |
| 00:45.52 | NeoTron | on our fathom-lord first kill one of the warlocks did 1114 DPS with 90% dps time |
| 00:46.05 | Kaelten | phyphor: in the updater the ads are ran in IE :s |
| 00:46.08 | Codayus | Pop trinket, get a Lifebloom stack rolling, profit! |
| 00:46.10 | Kaelten | there isn't a FF widget to my knowledge |
| 00:46.14 | NeoTron | if course he was naughty and didn't kill the totem.. |
| 00:46.15 | phyphor | yep |
| 00:46.16 | Aenslaed | Codayus: exactly |
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| 00:46.17 | Antiarc | There is one, Kaelten |
| 00:46.19 | Antiarc | Well |
| 00:46.20 | ckknight | Antiarc: no, not yet, got distracted. |
| 00:46.27 | Antiarc | You can embed the Mozilla rendering engine |
| 00:46.29 | Thrae | Codayus: Still, you must admit, most PvE is EZ-Mode, especially with Level 70 and older instances |
| 00:46.30 | Antiarc | It's really clunky though |
| 00:46.33 | phyphor | Bearing in mind I've been known to rip IE out of Xp ... |
| 00:46.36 | phyphor | yeah |
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| 00:46.40 | Mudkips | lifebloom healing? lol |
| 00:46.43 | Codayus | Thrae: Hmm? |
| 00:46.47 | x0ver | Afternoon all |
| 00:46.58 | Mudkips | ya maybe if you actually get the endheal off before the pallies/priests/flashing healing |
| 00:47.01 | Mudkips | flash* |
| 00:47.07 | Aenslaed | lifebloom healing in raids |
| 00:47.12 | Codayus | Mudkips: No, you don't want it to go off. |
| 00:47.16 | Aenslaed | Mudkips: you dont use the bloom portion ever anymore |
| 00:47.16 | Thrae | Aenslaed, Codayus: Stuff like that is more about EZ-Mode vs Requirements, and your raid setup |
| 00:47.17 | Codayus | Keep the stack rolling. |
| 00:47.23 | Mudkips | ... |
| 00:47.25 | Aenslaed | when lifebloom ticks for 700 a second |
| 00:47.36 | Aenslaed | you dont ever want that stack to wear off if the tank is taking damage |
| 00:47.37 | x0ver | what are these StandAloneLibraries im supposed to uninstall for the wowaceupdater2? |
| 00:47.53 | Mudkips | the only person that benefits from that are the main tanks |
| 00:48.14 | Thrae | Codayus: Anyway, respecs max at 50g, right? ;) |
| 00:48.16 | Aenslaed | thats why more than one resto druid is detrimental to any raid |
| 00:48.18 | Codayus | Thrae: Yes |
| 00:48.32 | Thrae | At level 70, that's a piddingly amount |
| 00:49.01 | NeoTron | you can keep it up on 2 tanks easily and by doing so that alone will do a lot of healing relatively |
| 00:49.16 | NeoTron | our best palaldin seemed to have done about 950 HPS in fathom-lord |
| 00:49.55 | NeoTron | HPS time : 8mn (98 % of presence), HPS : 1088 on the kill attempt |
| 00:49.58 | Mikk | a druid can keep a 3stack of lifebloom ticking bloody indefinitely |
| 00:50.07 | Aenslaed | tree especially |
| 00:50.10 | Thrae | Heh, I wonder how Tranquility rotation would work...probably too much aggro for the Druid, even with the anti-threat for Tranq talent |
| 00:50.14 | Mikk | they even get a regen tick in between recasts |
| 00:50.20 | Aenslaed | dreamstate HT spamming is something you did before they buffed lifebloom |
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| 00:50.42 | Aenslaed | tranquility is group only and it is very inefficient |
| 00:51.06 | NeoTron | how many people can a druid keep lifebloom up on anyway? |
| 00:51.11 | NeoTron | how long does it last? |
| 00:51.16 | Aenslaed | tranquility is what feral druids use to top their group off after magtheridon 30% or kazzak enrage |
| 00:51.18 | Thorgard | Aww, shucks where'd the spiffy !char bot go? ;P |
| 00:51.22 | Aenslaed | NeoTron: 3 |
| 00:51.30 | Aenslaed | 7 seconds |
| 00:51.40 | Thrae | Aenslaed: Well, you'd have to rotate it anyway due to the long cooldown, and it ticks for what, 2000+? |
| 00:51.46 | Aenslaed | less |
| 00:51.47 | NeoTron | whee |
| 00:51.51 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.16 | NeoTron | and then just press 1, 2, 3 or whatever the macros are bound to |
| 00:52.42 | Thrae | Aenslaed: 1518, but I believe you can increase that right? I thought mine tic'd for more. |
| 00:52.48 | Codayus | I think 4 Lifebloom stacks is theoretically possible if you lag is low, but not worth it in practice. |
| 00:52.52 | Aenslaed | tranquility is 1518 base |
| 00:52.59 | Aenslaed | you can increase it but not by much |
| 00:53.28 | Aenslaed | you are talking your +healing divided by 4 |
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| 00:53.50 | Aenslaed | most resto druids end up with almost 2k +healing. its only 2k per tick then |
| 00:54.40 | Thrae | Anyway, I'd respec to Lifebloom for -some- raids, but most of them should do just fine with what Codayus's got, maybe 1 more Resto Shaman or Paladin. |
| 00:56.42 | Mikk | re:lifebloom... i was toying about with that on pre-mag trash with my feral druid (wearing healing gear) |
| 00:56.50 | Mikk | just bloody spam it on everyone taking damage |
| 00:56.57 | Mikk | was up in paladin territory for heal done |
| 00:57.25 | Aenslaed | yeah, you can do it for spot healing if people are spread out |
| 00:57.29 | Mikk | it really is more useful than you think since it's so bloody cheap |
| 00:57.31 | Codayus | Lifebloom is kinda hard to misuse. :-) |
| 00:57.39 | Aenslaed | but a resto shaman will steal all your healing with chain heal |
| 00:57.45 | Mikk | yeah =/ |
| 00:57.51 | Thrae | Yeah, my Feral has some more Healing-oriented talents instead of just the damage-oriented ones, since some of them kinda suck |
| 00:57.51 | Codayus | I saw a chain heal once! |
| 00:57.52 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.06 | Aenslaed | chain heal is godly for TBC |
| 00:58.13 | NeoTron | chain heal is ezmode |
| 00:58.15 | Aenslaed | where almost every boss has an ability which damages everyone around |
| 00:58.17 | NeoTron | but there are like no resto shamans |
| 00:58.22 | Codayus | We've never raided with a resto shaman. Ever. |
| 00:58.32 | Aenslaed | you need to get one |
| 00:58.38 | Codayus | No kidding. |
| 00:58.49 | Thrae | s/there are like no resto shamans/there are like no resto shamans RAIDING/ |
| 00:59.04 | Thrae | There are like 1 bazillion resto shamans in Arena and top PvP |
| 00:59.14 | Thrae | It is THE type of Shaman to be in PvP |
| 00:59.16 | NeoTron | every shaman wants to go enhancement |
| 00:59.23 | NeoTron | for raiding |
| 00:59.34 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43427 10DrDamage/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:59.34 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:59.34 | CIA-22 | - Fixed leak of flammable material into the melee module causing random explosions leading to self combustion |
| 00:59.34 | CIA-22 | - Also organized class modules to same format |
| 00:59.37 | NeoTron | and I've yet to see a fight where an enhance shaman himself did reasonbly good dps |
| 00:59.38 | Gnarfoz | rightly so, giev WF totem |
| 00:59.40 | Thrae | Yeah, because they don't understand PvP or don't do it |
| 00:59.41 | sbu | NeoTron: mh, not here :) |
| 00:59.49 | Brok | Last Kael kill, my WWS counted 1342 ticks of lifebloom or about 192.7 lifeblooms (Over healed ticks aren't counted). I know for Phase 4 and quite a bit in phase 5, cast a single lifebloom to most people in the raid on a rotation (minus melee cuz a shaman gets that mostly) |
| 00:59.58 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I'll have one enhance shaman |
| 01:00.02 | sbu | NeoTron: 1 enh., 1 ele, 3 resto :o |
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| 01:00.23 | NeoTron | I'd take that.. |
| 01:00.24 | NeoTron | but |
| 01:00.26 | sbu | meh wtb new WWS featuers :o |
| 01:00.28 | Nosrac | Hey everyone |
| 01:00.30 | NeoTron | priests are underappreciated too |
| 01:00.39 | NeoTron | sbu: I want timeline graphs |
| 01:00.46 | Gagorian | EU servers down for maintenance now. I guess it was my last commit then :l |
| 01:00.48 | flexom | *poof* there my server is gone... :/ |
| 01:00.55 | sbu | i'm thinking about unlimited account... but need more features then :p |
| 01:00.57 | NeoTron | like show a person HP over time (relative HP lost vs max hp since max hp is unknown) |
| 01:01.03 | NeoTron | or dps over time ... much like recount has |
| 01:01.14 | NeoTron | heh we have an unlimited account |
| 01:01.17 | sbu | NeoTron: mh - hp over time is evil |
| 01:01.27 | NeoTron | well |
| 01:01.28 | sbu | you dont know his initial HP |
| 01:01.31 | NeoTron | no |
| 01:01.31 | sbu | only changes |
| 01:01.37 | NeoTron | but you know how much dmg/heals he takes |
| 01:01.42 | NeoTron | and you know when he dies |
| 01:01.47 | sbu | right, you could estimate his max-hp |
| 01:01.52 | sbu | with heal/overheal/stuff |
| 01:02.03 | Codayus | If it showed DoT uptime that'd be nice. |
| 01:02.08 | NeoTron | so if the tank keeps dying.. you can see if he was overall low or overall high and took a bit hit |
| 01:02.10 | Codayus | Or buff uptime in general. |
| 01:02.16 | sbu | yeah buff uptime |
| 01:02.23 | sbu | inspiration on tank :) |
| 01:02.24 | NeoTron | like when of our newer tanks did prince and died from 4 hits in one second |
| 01:02.26 | sbu | and stuff |
| 01:02.32 | NeoTron | 1 parry, 3 crushing |
| 01:02.38 | Mikk | tell him to bloody spec prot |
| 01:02.42 | Codayus | One question which pops up a lot is "how much did the tank have shield block up"... Should be possible to track that from gain/fade messages. |
| 01:02.42 | Mikk | and keep shieldblock up |
| 01:02.43 | NeoTron | he's prot |
| 01:02.52 | sbu | l2use shieldblock ;p |
| 01:02.53 | Codayus | Actually, Prince is special due to his Thrash ability. |
| 01:02.54 | NeoTron | but prince can hit way faster than what shieldblock can handle |
| 01:03.05 | NeoTron | 4 times in one second, literally |
| 01:03.06 | sbu | but prince + wf like proc + crushing -> evil :p |
| 01:03.07 | Codayus | Otherwise known as the "removes all shield block charges and crushes you" ability. |
| 01:03.08 | Mikk | yeah true |
| 01:03.35 | NeoTron | but he does seem to learn a bit to keep shield block up and I told him that overall that is the most important job |
| 01:03.39 | Fin | that's because he's a musical genius |
| 01:03.48 | NeoTron | if we have to hold back our dps, that's a small price to pay if you stay alive.. |
| 01:03.52 | Fin | wait, what are you talking about again |
| 01:03.53 | Codayus | Yeah, shield block is what seperates warriors from undergeared feral druids. :-p |
| 01:04.07 | Codayus | Well, not quite, but.... |
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| 01:04.14 | Mikk | yeah but a druid with 28k armor and 38% dodge unbuffed.... :S |
| 01:04.28 | NeoTron | our druid has .. 54% dodge buffed I believe |
| 01:04.30 | Nosrac | lol |
| 01:04.34 | Nosrac | wow |
| 01:04.34 | NeoTron | or with trinkets, 78% or so? |
| 01:04.41 | Nosrac | o.O |
| 01:04.46 | Codayus | Mikk: Yep. If the warrior isn't going to keep sheild block up, it's like a naked druid in bear form. :-D |
| 01:04.54 | charon | NeoTron: link armory please... o.O |
| 01:04.55 | Mikk | mhm =P |
| 01:04.56 | NeoTron | and hits the l73 armor cap (like 38k armor) with inspiration |
| 01:05.25 | Mikk | 30k unbuffed? |
| 01:05.29 | charon | bare durid myself and i have like 29.8k / 32% unbuffed |
| 01:05.49 | NeoTron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Lunaaduro |
| 01:05.53 | charon | thx |
| 01:05.58 | NeoTron | but that's hardly interessting.. she's wearing 311 FR |
| 01:06.05 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.30 | NeoTron | so not actually in tank gear :( |
| 01:06.35 | Mikk | feral druid specs is yawn |
| 01:06.35 | charon | hm :( |
| 01:06.36 | Mikk | 0/47/14 |
| 01:06.38 | Mikk | orly? |
| 01:06.46 | charon | 1/46/14 ftw |
| 01:06.49 | Mikk | ok, granted, you see the occasional 1/46/14 |
| 01:07.09 | charon | or i might pick 0/50/11 for pure pve |
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| 01:08.46 | NeoTron | the benefit of feral tank/dps specs... is you don't have much choice :) |
| 01:08.57 | NeoTron | I've spent so much on respeccing (back to affliction though) |
| 01:09.16 | sbu | our druid is 0/50/11 |
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| 01:10.03 | NeoTron | so no intensity |
| 01:10.27 | charon | a warrior guy who offtanked kara today respecced three times ... fury for kara, prot for nightbane which he didn't tank because he was twoshotted anyway, arms again for pvp later |
| 01:10.44 | charon | NeoTron: don't really see why you would need intensity... |
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| 01:11.12 | NeoTron | at times that 10 extra instant rage can be real nice |
| 01:11.38 | Mikk | not for raids so much, but for 5man stuff, indeed |
| 01:11.51 | Mikk | plus you get better mana regen when you have to heal, ofc |
| 01:12.05 | Mikk | nice talent that way :> |
| 01:12.57 | charon | oh well, might be my playstyle, i prefer swiftshifting ... i'm the kind of dps druid who doesn't hesitate to shift bear - bash - shift back |
| 01:13.24 | Mikk | powershifting for extra energy ftw |
| 01:13.26 | NeoTron | our druid MTs |
| 01:13.28 | Mikk | except that's furor |
| 01:13.29 | NeoTron | well that druid does |
| 01:13.42 | NeoTron | she doesn't switch out :) |
| 01:13.48 | Mikk | =) |
| 01:13.56 | Garoun|Loupana | I quite enjoy the extra rage |
| 01:14.06 | sbu | charon: mh - prot for nightbane? why? |
| 01:14.18 | Mikk | time swings from boss, switch, inner healer, switch back |
| 01:14.19 | Mikk | ftw! |
| 01:14.23 | charon | NeoTron: then again as raid MT you neither need the rage nor should debuff your armour :) |
| 01:14.35 | Mikk | this is also true =) |
| 01:14.52 | Funkeh` | anyone know how these websites get the new patches so fast? its not even being offered by blizzard yet and they have the enGB patch up |
| 01:14.57 | Antiarc | wtf |
| 01:15.01 | Antiarc | They changed stealth animations |
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| 01:15.33 | rubik | hmm.. how so |
| 01:15.36 | charon | sbu: raid leader was acting weird, figured we couldn't pull it off with me tanking, fury warrior doing the stance dance thing and earth shock for backup |
| 01:15.58 | charon | we did just that, except of course the fury was def and didn't do any damage |
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| 01:16.17 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43428 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: |
| 01:16.17 | CIA-22 | .Babble-Inventory-2.2: |
| 01:16.17 | CIA-22 | - Added deDE localizations for "Daggers", "One-Handed Axes", "One-Handed Maces", "Two-Handed Axes" and "Two-Handed Maces" |
| 01:16.24 | Antiarc | It's like twice as fast now |
| 01:16.27 | Antiarc | It's really annoying |
| 01:16.47 | Funkeh` | going into stealth? |
| 01:17.02 | charon | s/earth shock/tremor totem/ |
| 01:17.11 | charon | damn the german translation, i keep mixing them |
| 01:17.58 | Uden | hi everyone, excuse my english(i'm from france), i have a simple question, someone can tell me how can i make pop/appears the minimap button of bartender 3 please?(common question i guess...? sorry) |
| 01:18.22 | Antiarc | No, walking in stealth |
| 01:18.29 | Funkeh` | they did that before |
| 01:18.33 | Antiarc | Yeah, I know |
| 01:18.35 | Funkeh` | made it more of a tiptoe |
| 01:18.36 | Antiarc | I liked it how it was |
| 01:18.41 | Antiarc | Now it's like a superfast tiptoe |
| 01:19.01 | Funkeh` | probably not intended |
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| 01:19.38 | Thorgard | Uden, /bartender3 fubar minimapAttach ? |
| 01:20.00 | Uden | thx i will test tomorrow :) |
| 01:20.27 | Uden | can i ask another q about bartender 3? |
| 01:20.57 | Uden | (a common one about stances ^^ /shy) |
| 01:21.10 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r43429 10FuriousRaid/FuriousRaid.lua: |
| 01:21.10 | CIA-22 | FuriousRaid: |
| 01:21.10 | CIA-22 | - fix a bug with operations on sets that do not exist. |
| 01:21.10 | CIA-22 | - disabled sets that do not have a set type registered. |
| 01:21.10 | CIA-22 | - added online check for awarding points to people in the raid. |
| 01:21.26 | Thorgard | Uden, go for it. |
| 01:21.50 | Uden | well i type slowly in eng ... |
| 01:21.55 | Fin | Mikk: http://fin.instinct.org/bits/cleanace-fin.bat |
| 01:22.07 | Thorgard | Uden, that's okay, we all read slowly. |
| 01:22.13 | Fin | Mikk: just added a bunch more libs |
| 01:22.26 | Mikk | You know for sure that these are in SAL? |
| 01:22.46 | Fin | yes, I used the filelist.wau and compared against the ones in cleanace.bat |
| 01:22.58 | Fin | s/wau/wau from SAL/ |
| 01:23.45 | Mikk | ahh nice one |
| 01:24.01 | Uden | I expose my problem : I have a rogue(alt L2 x]), when i stealth and unstealth i can't use my keyboard to use my spells(i have to click on them and i hate pve clickers :p) |
| 01:24.12 | Mikk | Fin: Why'd you remove the attrib command? |
| 01:24.16 | Fin | Mikk: errr |
| 01:24.22 | Fin | Mikk: that must've been a mistake, sorry |
| 01:24.24 | Uden | lol 2 minutes for a 2 lines sentence, i rule |
| 01:24.39 | Fin | Uden: what's your native language? |
| 01:24.43 | Uden | french |
| 01:25.02 | Fin | well, it would take me longer than 2 minutes two write 2 lines in french |
| 01:25.09 | Uden | i learned eng on us forum |
| 01:25.19 | Mikk | nice |
| 01:25.20 | Uden | try^^ |
| 01:25.31 | Fin | unless it was just "magnifique! fantastique! allez! mais oui, etc" |
| 01:25.38 | Uden | ahah :') |
| 01:25.46 | Fin | and I'd only do that if Adys were around |
| 01:26.09 | Uden | he's french? |
| 01:26.14 | Fin | very |
| 01:26.22 | Uden | very ? |
| 01:26.32 | Fin | tres |
| 01:26.35 | Uden | :d |
| 01:26.37 | Uden | then |
| 01:26.43 | Fin | :) |
| 01:26.49 | rubik | Uden: if i understand correctly, you are not able to use mapped keys to perform actions from your bar that shows up after you stealth? |
| 01:26.54 | Uden | tell him "chauvin lal" |
| 01:27.03 | Uden | exactly rubik |
| 01:27.16 | Fin | I will if he comes on IRC |
| 01:28.08 | rubik | i believe you have to set your 1,2,3,4,5..,= (or whatever) mappings on actionbar #1.. and then make sure that the stealth bar replaces actionbar #1 when you stealth.. and then you can use the same mappings? |
| 01:28.28 | Uden | i dont know how to response |
| 01:28.35 | Uden | uh |
| 01:28.40 | Uden | it the case |
| 01:28.43 | Uden | now |
| 01:29.04 | Fin | what bar addon are you using, Uden? |
| 01:29.20 | Mikk | fin: cheers for the additions, incorporated them back. |
| 01:29.26 | Uden | i have bartender 3 with my main(warlock) and i want to use it with my alt rogue(which have 2 stances) |
| 01:29.46 | Fin | Mikk: cool - what's the URL again, sorry to ask (browser history doesn't have it for some reason) |
| 01:29.50 | Fin | oh, I know why |
| 01:29.53 | rubik | btw.. wiki on wowace.com doesn't work for any addon wiki page anymore? |
| 01:29.58 | Fin | hm, no I don't |
| 01:30.01 | charon | Uden: random idea you might want to check, bartender suddenly had a problem when 2.1.2 went live, are you using the latest version? |
| 01:30.09 | Uden | i use the bar 7 (used for stealth in normal case i guess) for potions etc |
| 01:30.22 | Uden | i check |
| 01:31.05 | Fin | I've never tried binding keys in Bartender using stances - can you bind a key to two buttons? I guess it must be part of the paging featurunctionality |
| 01:31.07 | charon | hard to say anything else with servers down and all |
| 01:31.26 | Fin | is there a PTR up or something? |
| 01:31.28 | Fin | ooh |
| 01:31.29 | charon | paging works perfectly fine on my druid, though i don't use a separate page for stealth (just bear/cat) |
| 01:31.32 | Uden | so much words :d |
| 01:31.42 | Uden | many |
| 01:31.46 | Fin | hey |
| 01:31.48 | Uden | <3 english |
| 01:31.49 | Mikk | rubik: read the front page |
| 01:31.54 | Fin | s/hey/hey! well done Uden :)/ |
| 01:31.55 | Mikk | Fin: http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat |
| 01:32.02 | Fin | Mikk: ta muchly |
| 01:32.12 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43430 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 01:32.12 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 01:32.12 | CIA-22 | - Fixed an error with ranged weapon damage calculations not properly using RAP instead of AP |
| 01:32.13 | Uden | i don't know if i have the latest version of bartender 3 |
| 01:32.29 | Uden | charon |
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| 01:33.17 | Fin | Mikk: I see the attrib line in my version... was it really missing? |
| 01:33.28 | charon | Uden: if you've run the WowAceUpdater anytime recently, you're fine, that bug was fixed very quickly (on patch day i think) |
| 01:33.42 | Xerophyte | Possible silly svn question: how do I set svn:eol-style before committing? SVN_For_Beginners explains how to do it (in Tortoise) after a commit, which I tried with success on the sandbox, but the actual dev trunk doesn't much like committing without it set to native first |
| 01:34.58 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r43431 10WeaponRebuff/WeaponRebuff-DropDowns.lua: |
| 01:34.58 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 01:34.58 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.07 | Uden | please charon can you tell my where is this .exe ? i don't find it in wow/interface/addons/ |
| 01:35.47 | charon | Uden: http://wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater |
| 01:35.56 | Gagorian | I just had an idea for the forums.. Wonder if the forum software would support mod author's taking ownership of a thread to allow them to modify/delete posts within that thread? Would be convenient to be able to delete posts about fixed issues etc so the thread would be easier to read through |
| 01:35.59 | Uden | ty |
| 01:36.41 | charon | Xerophyte: you can set properties on the file flagged for adding, just as if it was already in there |
| 01:36.49 | Gagorian | (and no, I don't like trac) |
| 01:37.14 | Antiarc | Xerophyte: svn add, then you can set the eol-style |
| 01:37.29 | Fin | purl, svnpreprops is <reply>right click file -> TortoiseSVN -> Settings -> General -> "Edit" next to Subversion configuration file -> "enable-auto-props = yes" + "*.lua = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native" |
| 01:37.38 | purl | Fin: okay |
| 01:37.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin, you got that wrong. |
| 01:37.53 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: please correct me |
| 01:37.55 | NightHawkTheSane | IT's "l2usethegoddamncliclientandreadthesvnbook" :P |
| 01:38.06 | Fin | aha |
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| 01:38.20 | Gnarfoz | which does autoprops automatically for you without doing anything? |
| 01:38.29 | Uden | I hope that my problem will be resolved :) thank you |
| 01:38.30 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r43432 10cgProfiler/raids/raids.lua: cgProfiler: Updated raid storage format |
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| 01:38.33 | Fin | purl, tell Xerophyte about svnpreprops |
| 01:39.05 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r43433 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler: Updated raid storage format |
| 01:39.08 | NightHawkTheSane | No, but its at least as easy as working with tortoise, and far more universal |
| 01:39.09 | Fin | ### Section for configuring automatic properties. |
| 01:39.11 | Xerophyte | Fin: Handy, thanks |
| 01:39.14 | charon | Uden: it's a long shot and i'm not sure it will work, but the servers are down so i can't do anything else, sorry |
| 01:39.20 | Fin | good luck Uden |
| 01:39.33 | Uden | :d |
| 01:39.34 | charon | good luck and good night :) it's late |
| 01:39.38 | Uden | uhuh |
| 01:39.45 | Fin | purl, svnautoprops is <reply>right click file -> TortoiseSVN -> Settings -> General -> "Edit" next to Subversion configuration file -> "enable-auto-props = yes" + "*.lua = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native" |
| 01:39.45 | purl | okay, Fin |
| 01:40.00 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkAtWork: so... no real advantage and certainly nothing to do with the problem ;> |
| 01:40.39 | Gnarfoz | anyway, hp5 just bored me to death with its abridged-ness, perhaps 4 hours of sleep before work instead of 3 will be nice for a change :D |
| 01:40.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: The advantage is that the svn book has extremely clear and useful documentation of every aspect of the cli client. All you need to do is link that, and then slap people who can't figure it out. |
| 01:41.12 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: have you read the whole thing, out of curiosity? |
| 01:41.14 | Gnarfoz | or do what Fin did |
| 01:41.30 | rubik | what's lowest ui scale value i can set in config.wtf? i thought 0.64? |
| 01:41.30 | Fin | be honest now |
| 01:41.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: front-to-back? no, but I've probably at least glanced at every section of it at some point in the past. |
| 01:41.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Usually I try to do something, realize I'm not sure how, then look it up. |
| 01:42.13 | Fin | I tried to do that with the SVN book though, and it wasn't too lookupable for some stuff |
| 01:42.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Really? I've yet to run across anything that I couldn't find the solution to reasonably quickly via `svn help` or in the book. |
| 01:42.49 | Fin | I mean, some stuff wasn't very lookupable for me |
| 01:42.55 | Mikk | Fin: Bluh, yeah, it's showing for me too. But the diff told me it was deleted. Feck knows :P |
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| 01:43.28 | Fin | I was basically a complete noob when it comes to SVN though, I'd used cvs co and cvs ci before on a preconfigured setup where only one coder was editing a file at a time - so a lot of shit confused me |
| 01:43.30 | Uden | good night |
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| 01:43.42 | Fin | Mikk: oh, good :) just checkin :) |
| 01:43.49 | Fin | then again |
| 01:43.53 | Fin | lots of things confuse me |
| 01:44.33 | NightHawkTheSane | But when things confuse you, do you at least try to find the answers in supplied help or official documentation? :P |
| 01:44.50 | Mikk | what, when you can bother everyone in #wowace with it instead? |
| 01:44.51 | Mikk | how quaint |
| 01:45.04 | NightHawkTheSane | True that, mikk. |
| 01:45.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, if people started looking shit up, I wouldn't get to be rude nearly as often as I'd like. |
| 01:45.42 | CIA-22 | 03karls * r43434 10DKPmon_EPGP/ (6 files): |
| 01:45.42 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_EPGP: initial commit |
| 01:45.42 | CIA-22 | - Implements the EPGP loot system for the DKPmon DKP framework |
| 01:45.52 | Xerophyte | Hah, and nothing blew up ... I think |
| 01:45.55 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: when it's the official documentation that's confusing me, I actually do try again normally to figure it out, but often it's much nicer to ask someone else |
| 01:46.17 | Fin | that's a good point, NH |
| 01:46.27 | Xerophyte | Could perhaps add that you need to set eof-style and possibly mime for *.toc and *.txt in autoprops as well |
| 01:48.20 | Fin | Xerophyte: http://pgl.yoyo.org/c/svn/config.txt if you want an example |
| 01:48.36 | Fin | dunno if it's a very *good* example, honestly |
| 01:49.01 | Xerophyte | I've sorted it - see upload above. Meant more for the helpful botted message :) |
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| 01:49.48 | Fin | oh, didn't realise that was you, good stuff |
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| 01:50.33 | Xerophyte | Well, I did sorta forget to specify my svn user name so it's admittedly hard to tell. Ah well, not like it matters much |
| 01:51.03 | Fin | [03:49:59] [Freenode] [<- purl] okay |
| 01:51.06 | CIA-22 | 03karls * r43435 10Bidder_EPGP/ (. Bidder_EPGP.toc epgp.lua gpl.txt localization.enUS.lua): |
| 01:51.06 | CIA-22 | Bidder_EPGP: initial commit |
| 01:51.06 | CIA-22 | - Implements the EPGP loot system for the Bidder DKP framework |
| 01:51.29 | Fin | I'm just not paying attenti |
| 01:52.06 | Fin | beer is so great |
| 01:52.33 | Xerophyte | Well, that's that. I hope no one ever downloads them to look at the code, I'd die from embarassment... |
| 01:52.55 | Nosrac | Ckknight, you there =D? |
| 01:53.24 | Fin | nice one, Xerophyte |
| 01:53.26 | ckknight | watching Meadowlands S01E04 |
| 01:55.10 | Nosrac | k, quick problem with CowTip: when I'm checking an option (the toggle type) with the FuBar nQuestLog comes with it flashes the tooltip's location to bottom right then back to my mouse (what I want) not a big problem at all, just though you might like to know. Don't worry about fixing it till you have time ;-) |
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| 01:55.57 | Nosrac | Ckknight do you need me to repeat that since you left the room? |
| 01:56.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:56.20 | Nosrac | k, quick problem with CowTip: when I'm checking an option (the toggle type) with the FuBar nQuestLog comes with it flashes the tooltip's location to bottom right then back to my mouse (what I want) not a big problem at all, just though you might like to know. Don't worry about fixing it till you have ;-) |
| 01:56.40 | ckknight | hrm, odd |
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| 01:57.03 | Nosrac | BugSack is empty |
| 01:57.52 | Nosrac | ckknight and I tried toggling other options in FuBar; CowTip worked fine :-? |
| 01:58.00 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:58.40 | Nosrac | Very possible it's a nQuestLog problem |
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| 02:00.53 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:00.53 | CIA-22 | - Updated koKR |
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| 02:07.27 | pakoz2 | anyone know the proper shadow priest rotation for raid dps? |
| 02:07.49 | Neebler | is threat to KTM built into Omen now? because I no longer see the TTK icon on my fubar |
| 02:08.50 | Trancer | pakoz2: can you execute perl? |
| 02:09.02 | Trancer | and actually read perl |
| 02:10.04 | Trancer | http://pastebin.com/m27a21ac2 |
| 02:10.06 | Trancer | snip output |
| 02:10.08 | Mikk | proper shadow priest rotation? |
| 02:10.11 | Trancer | http://crazy.mofo.nl/~micks/dmgcycle.pl |
| 02:10.13 | Trancer | script |
| 02:10.16 | Trancer | usage |
| 02:10.25 | Mikk | oh, you mean skill rotation |
| 02:10.26 | Mikk | not rotating shadow priests :P |
| 02:10.29 | Trancer | ./dmgcycle.pl mbcd swpdur fightdur |
| 02:10.36 | Trancer | knock yourself out ;-) |
| 02:10.50 | Trancer | (it calculates the most efficient rotation for you) |
| 02:10.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: remember to bring your shadowpriests in every 6 months or 10,000 miles for proper rotation. |
| 02:11.15 | vithos | do any addons have an option to increase the minimap's updaterate? i've noticed if i'm walking around, radar blips move smoothly instead of once per second |
| 02:11.16 | Mikk | i was thinking along the lines of "healer rotation" |
| 02:11.23 | Mikk | was like.. wtf.. nuknuknuk ftw? |
| 02:11.46 | Codayus | pakoz2: Shadow priests don't really *have* skill rotations. The better approach is to prioritize your spells, and cast the most important one. |
| 02:12.07 | Trancer | ehm Codayus? |
| 02:12.16 | Mikk | Trancer: curious. isn't it really only about keeping everything up tho? |
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| 02:12.22 | Trancer | you do have a rotation as you want to keep VT/SW:P up as long as possible |
| 02:12.28 | Trancer | Mikk: yes, that's what a rotation does |
| 02:12.37 | Trancer | Mikk: but that's not THAT easy |
| 02:12.46 | Trancer | Mikk: you want to squeeze in a flay and a flay etc. |
| 02:12.51 | Trancer | and just end when you need to recast SW:P |
| 02:12.53 | Mikk | yer |
| 02:12.54 | Codayus | But a rotation in the way other classes mean it isn't going to work at all |
| 02:13.05 | Trancer | if you just started a flay before a new SW:P cast, you loose SW:P time |
| 02:13.15 | Mikk | i dunno.. i just keep chronometer up so i know if i can cast another flay or not :S |
| 02:13.16 | Trancer | if you end a flay + casted a SW:P on a MB CD, you loose MB time |
| 02:13.20 | Codayus | There's no cycle (or not one short enough to memorize). |
| 02:13.36 | Mikk | and tbfh MB isn't that bloody important |
| 02:13.40 | Trancer | Codayus: well that's true |
| 02:13.50 | Mikk | it ups your dps a bit, but also eats mana more than MF does |
| 02:13.52 | Trancer | Mikk: every bit added of boom = boom :P |
| 02:14.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Slide! |
| 02:14.03 | Mikk | as in less damage per maan |
| 02:14.03 | Fin | slip |
| 02:14.06 | Trancer | and slide and slide! ;p |
| 02:14.31 | Trancer | Codayus: it's a bit like locks though, play on feeling ;-) |
| 02:14.57 | Mikk | but yeah i see what you mean... try to either get 2 flay or 1flay+swp+VT in between MBs |
| 02:15.02 | Mikk | assuming you have 2 pts in imp mb |
| 02:15.06 | Codayus | Exactly. Hence...shadow priests have no rotation. (Whereas fire mages have...um... 7 fireballs -> 1 schorch -> repeat or something) |
| 02:15.14 | Trancer | Mikk: that's what we wrote this script for |
| 02:15.34 | Trancer | Mikk: 2/5 imp MB is better for rotations than 0/5 |
| 02:15.44 | Mikk | yer but i already knew that :> |
| 02:15.46 | Trancer | and the difference of 2/5 vs 5/5 is nihil |
| 02:15.53 | Trancer | so 2/5 is most efficient |
| 02:15.54 | Mikk | that's good to know tho |
| 02:16.00 | Codayus | Trancer: Depends on lag some, no? |
| 02:16.21 | Trancer | Codayus: well yes, always |
| 02:16.21 | Mikk | Codayus: only to the point where if you lag badly enough you'll get away with 1/5 :P |
| 02:16.27 | Codayus | :-) |
| 02:16.31 | Trancer | Codayus: although with quartz and /stopcasting macros you can counter that |
| 02:16.37 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 02:16.52 | Mikk | what _I_ want is some sort of timer that tells me if i'm facemelting properly |
| 02:16.55 | Trancer | stopcasting + nightfall is really funny btw! :D |
| 02:17.05 | Mikk | i mean.. with bolts, it's easy to see "shit, i'm aborting too aggresively" |
| 02:17.09 | Mikk | not so easy with meltface |
| 02:17.11 | Trancer | stopcasted a shadowbolt on nightfall proc, the nightfall reached the mob earlier than the bolt :P |
| 02:17.20 | Mikk | lal |
| 02:17.22 | Trancer | yeah, hehe :p |
| 02:17.35 | Trancer | ah Mikk, here |
| 02:17.36 | Trancer | # ./dmgcycle.pl 7 24 600 | grep ^Final |
| 02:17.37 | Trancer | Final damage done: 591640 |
| 02:17.37 | Trancer | # ./dmgcycle.pl 5.5 24 600 | grep ^Final |
| 02:17.37 | Trancer | Final damage done: 591855 |
| 02:17.44 | Trancer | that's 2/5 vs 5/5 on a 600 sec fight |
| 02:18.17 | Mikk | yer, 5/5 is for pvp only |
| 02:18.40 | Trancer | *nod* |
| 02:18.58 | Trancer | want.. more.. talentpoints! |
| 02:21.23 | Codayus | Trancer: Played around with the spreadsheet here at all? |
| 02:21.24 | Codayus | http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=1880 |
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| 02:22.04 | Mikk | Trancer: can you run that again with an MB delay of .. oh... 600? =) |
| 02:22.08 | Trancer | Codayus: hmm, should |
| 02:22.27 | Codayus | Also calculates optimal spell usage and lets you theorycraft optimal points in Imp MB, and some other stuff. Kinda nifty. |
| 02:22.32 | Mikk | what +dmg are you assuming btw? |
| 02:22.56 | Trancer | trancer@crazy:~$ ./dmgcycle.pl 600 24 600 | grep ^Final |
| 02:22.56 | Trancer | Final damage done: 512516 |
| 02:23.31 | Trancer | hmm.. where was the preset for that |
| 02:23.44 | Mikk | okay, so ~87% of damage done |
| 02:23.50 | Trancer | ah yeah, it doesn't count that yet, it added the +dmg gear into the mb |
| 02:23.54 | Trancer | but it was about 900 |
| 02:23.59 | Codayus | Also looks like your ignoring SW:D... |
| 02:24.07 | Trancer | Codayus: yes, it's an SW:Dless rotation |
| 02:24.26 | Mikk | Trancer: next question... calculate mana spent pl0x =) |
| 02:24.46 | Trancer | hehehe |
| 02:24.54 | Trancer | I will poke the main author |
| 02:25.02 | Codayus | The spreadsheet I linked calculates mana usage. :-) |
| 02:25.03 | Trancer | he'll probly poke me to code this in PHP |
| 02:25.06 | Trancer | and make a fancy graph of it |
| 02:25.17 | Mikk | i'm thinking it'll be quite a difference, but it'd be interesting to see numbers |
| 02:25.29 | Mikk | the damage diff was about what i expected |
| 02:26.34 | Trancer | I really need to work on my shadowpriest again |
| 02:26.38 | Trancer | I like my warlock a lot though ;-) |
| 02:26.39 | Mikk | damnit, now i want to code an MF ticker |
| 02:26.43 | Trancer | Hehehehe |
| 02:26.43 | Mikk | and servers are down =( |
| 02:26.49 | Codayus | Ticker? |
| 02:26.52 | Trancer | Mikk: piece of cake, just hack up kEnergy or so |
| 02:27.04 | Trancer | oh man Codayus |
| 02:27.09 | Trancer | that XLS is nice and all |
| 02:27.13 | Trancer | the warlock one looks horrible |
| 02:27.16 | Trancer | (works though) |
| 02:27.20 | Mikk | Codayus: something that tells me how long it is between my MF ticks, to tell me if i'm re-casting MF too fast or slow |
| 02:27.26 | Codayus | Ah |
| 02:27.40 | Mikk | quartz et al are nice, but i want to verify that it's actually working |
| 02:27.49 | Mikk | the major fear being aborting too soon ofc |
| 02:27.57 | Trancer | http://leulier.com/ (that one) |
| 02:27.58 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 02:28.01 | Mikk | cause if i'm doing that, i might as well not abort |
| 02:28.30 | Codayus | Yeah, just a mod that watches MF and beeps at you if you ever get < 3 ticks... |
| 02:28.42 | Codayus | Would be nice, no? |
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| 02:28.48 | Mikk | yeah |
| 02:29.00 | Mikk | goddamnit. 7mb xls file |
| 02:29.04 | Mikk | BLOATWARE |
| 02:29.16 | Arrowmaster | holy shit |
| 02:29.31 | Mikk | huaaaa |
| 02:29.47 | Mikk | what are you doing? taking screenshots of calc.exe? |
| 02:29.53 | Wobwork | well no =\ |
| 02:29.55 | Trancer | :P |
| 02:30.03 | Wobwork | Merely financial info for the last ... 3 years =) |
| 02:30.04 | Trancer | Mikk: you run OO.o on win32? |
| 02:30.10 | Mikk | yes |
| 02:30.14 | Trancer | any good? |
| 02:30.16 | Codayus | Yeah, that'll do it. :-) |
| 02:30.17 | Mikk | to avoid running pirated office |
| 02:30.29 | Trancer | I run it on Linux, but never tried it on win32 |
| 02:30.40 | Mikk | well.. it feels pretty natural |
| 02:30.44 | Trancer | nice |
| 02:30.50 | Codayus | Speaking of spreadsheets, if you don't mind a complete lack of compatability with everything, and a horribly expensive licesne fee... Quantrix Modeler is hot. |
| 02:30.51 | Trancer | and have to run office here |
| 02:30.56 | Arrowmaster | i run pirated 2003 only because my college uses 2003 |
| 02:30.57 | Trancer | E_CLOWNS at university |
| 02:31.02 | Trancer | they don't understand other stuff |
| 02:35.18 | Trancer | today.. is a good day for pie |
| 02:35.22 | Trancer | but first it's time to sleep |
| 02:35.31 | Trancer | and now I want that priest xls for warlocks :( |
| 02:35.33 | Gagorian | I need some opinions.. Is it worth creating a fake metatable for Babble-Spell in enUS/enGB so it doesn't need to be loaded? |
| 02:36.37 | ckknight | Gagorian: hrm... |
| 02:36.41 | Gagorian | Should save some static memory cost? |
| 02:36.53 | ckknight | Gagorian: yea, theoretically |
| 02:37.36 | ckknight | I'd thought about doing that standardly, but it has its own issues |
| 02:37.47 | ckknight | such as accessing something that doesn't/shouldn't exist |
| 02:38.10 | Arrowmaster | would it cause more memory usage if you really were using babble-spell for other stuff? |
| 02:38.20 | Mikk | Erm.. i'm brainfarting .. what would "DP" be in priest dps vocabulary? it's a spell? |
| 02:38.30 | Codayus | The warlock thing |
| 02:38.32 | Codayus | AH |
| 02:38.33 | Xerophyte | Devouring Plague |
| 02:38.34 | Codayus | UNDEAD THING |
| 02:38.36 | Codayus | Right |
| 02:38.36 | Mikk | ahhh |
| 02:38.40 | Mikk | cheers =) |
| 02:38.44 | Mikk | <- plays alliance obviously |
| 02:38.53 | Codayus | Confused me too...for the same reason. |
| 02:39.03 | Xerophyte | Handy with IF, otherwise questionable in pve |
| 02:39.08 | Tem | Who is maintaining myBindings2 these days? |
| 02:39.19 | Gagorian | ckknight: Well, I'm pretty much in control what gets passed.. A few strings for each ability, so just throw the key back. |
| 02:39.43 | ckknight | Mikk: what do you play? |
| 02:39.48 | Mikk | erm.. a lot |
| 02:39.57 | Mikk | i used to have a warlock main that i raided lots with |
| 02:40.04 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Nah, but if everyone using BS would do it then it would. And also, I probably have users who use DrDamage as the only BS addon. |
| 02:40.07 | Mikk | had a pally that i raided some with too back when people thought pallies couldn't heal |
| 02:40.12 | Mikk | (proved em wrong i did. nyah.) |
| 02:40.22 | Mikk | in tbc i've been playing a druid tank |
| 02:40.30 | Mikk | running around in outlands with an spriest now |
| 02:40.48 | Codayus | Heh, I remember the old jokes about paladins in dresses... |
| 02:40.52 | Trancer | I still like lock more than spriest, hmhm.. more utility |
| 02:40.55 | Trancer | heh Codayus :-) |
| 02:41.07 | Trancer | was hilarious though, pallies wearing all that cloth |
| 02:41.20 | Mikk | Codayus: i wore the icky turqoise-and-white one with shitloads of +heal :> |
| 02:41.30 | Codayus | Off baron, right? |
| 02:41.32 | Trancer | especially if they wore that robe from stratholme.. on a male paladin |
| 02:41.35 | Gagorian | ckknight: So, what was the final verdict. Worth doing within my addon? |
| 02:41.37 | Mikk | yeah sounds right |
| 02:41.39 | Trancer | the green +healing one from baron |
| 02:41.41 | Codayus | Yep |
| 02:41.41 | Mikk | yeah |
| 02:41.48 | ckknight | Gagorian: yea, I'd say go for it |
| 02:42.04 | Mikk | heh.. toying with the spriest XLS sheet |
| 02:42.14 | Mikk | with SW:D in the rotation: 350k dmg to oom |
| 02:42.17 | Trancer | Mikk: look at the damage till oom bit |
| 02:42.19 | Trancer | LOL .. right |
| 02:42.24 | Mikk | without it: 520k |
| 02:42.24 | Trancer | was about to say ;-) |
| 02:42.40 | Trancer | it's terribly inefficient |
| 02:42.41 | Mikk | heh, it barfs out if you disable MB :S |
| 02:42.46 | ckknight | local BabbleSpell = GetLocale() == "enUS" and setmetatable({},{__index=function(self,key)self[key]=key;return key;end}) or AceLibrary("Babble-Spell-2.2") |
| 02:42.49 | ckknight | Gagorian: ^--- |
| 02:42.52 | ckknight | that'll be good |
| 02:44.01 | Mikk | Trancer: anyway, re spriest... hmm, yeah, warlocks = good, no shit. but you really do want 2ish spriests in a raid too for VT hax |
| 02:44.19 | Wobwork | VT hax? |
| 02:44.28 | Mikk | Vampiric Touch |
| 02:44.29 | Trancer | Mikk: we got 3 now ;p |
| 02:44.32 | Mikk | bloody hax it is |
| 02:44.34 | Wobwork | hax? |
| 02:44.34 | Trancer | sometimes even 4 |
| 02:44.42 | Wobwork | wot hax? |
| 02:44.42 | Mikk | better than wallhax |
| 02:44.46 | Trancer | the future of TBC Raiding.. |
| 02:44.48 | Trancer | all priests do boom |
| 02:44.49 | Codayus | Even 3 isn't bad, depending on your other raid makeup. BM hunters, fire mages, even arcane mages...all benefit a lot from extra mana. |
| 02:44.51 | Trancer | all pallies heal |
| 02:44.59 | Codayus | Trancer: Wait, *future*? |
| 02:45.01 | Codayus | :-) |
| 02:45.04 | Trancer | Codayus: ;-) |
| 02:45.08 | Mikk | all pallies heal already |
| 02:45.13 | Trancer | lies |
| 02:45.16 | Codayus | We have a pally tank. |
| 02:45.17 | Trancer | we got a retridin (LOL!) |
| 02:45.18 | Mikk | i haven't seen a pally swinging weapons in raids for ages |
| 02:45.20 | Trancer | and a tankadin |
| 02:45.20 | Mikk | lol? |
| 02:45.24 | Mikk | ok tankadin i buy |
| 02:45.31 | RogueShadow_ | Best healing pally i've seen yet. A ret pally. |
| 02:45.31 | Mikk | should be as blocky as a warrior done right tbh |
| 02:45.33 | Trancer | the retridin was more of an experiment |
| 02:45.39 | RogueShadow_ | Keeps changing gear .. |
| 02:45.42 | Trancer | it was horrible |
| 02:45.48 | Mikk | norly? |
| 02:45.53 | Trancer | rly :/ |
| 02:46.07 | Trancer | mob changed phase and is aggro clear |
| 02:46.10 | Mikk | theory goes it might be worth putting a retadin in a dps group |
| 02:46.11 | Mikk | but have him heal anyway |
| 02:46.12 | Trancer | "OH LOL SOC PROCCED!" |
| 02:46.18 | Codayus | Tankadins can get crushing blow immunity and pretty good TPS. Their mitigation and HP pool tends to suffer...but they're quite good at AoE tanking. Works out. |
| 02:46.19 | Trancer | dead paladin |
| 02:46.28 | Trancer | Codayus: and perma shield wall |
| 02:46.31 | Mikk | that sounds like a st00pid paladin :P |
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| 02:46.47 | Trancer | Mikk: bit of an can't control aggro issue they got |
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| 02:46.56 | Trancer | Codayus: we got a hybrid paladin, he tanks and heals, whatever is needed |
| 02:47.05 | Trancer | Codayus: tanking goes very nice, healing is okay'ish |
| 02:47.06 | Codayus | Retadins are theoretically being looked at soon... |
| 02:47.31 | Mikk | i think the way to fix retadins is to give them mail gear with lots of damage stats |
| 02:47.39 | Codayus | We have one hybrid holy/ret paladin as well. Some sort of holy shock build. Kinda meh... |
| 02:47.40 | Mikk | then they can whine about not using plate if they like |
| 02:47.43 | Mikk | but at least they don't become unstoppable in pvp |
| 02:48.09 | Mikk | (fwiw i think dps warrs should be stuck with mail too) |
| 02:48.16 | Codayus | But again, the flexibility is nice. Usually ends up healing on bosses and DPSing on trash. |
| 02:48.48 | Xerophyte | Heh. Most dps warriors I know wear half leather already |
| 02:49.14 | Mikk | come to think of it retadins could prolly jump into shaman mail and get a dps boost already |
| 02:49.19 | Mikk | not that i've really looked at it |
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| 02:49.49 | Trancer | Codayus: flexibility is nice yeah |
| 02:50.03 | Trancer | the core group for our raids contains pretty much every spec of class |
| 02:50.14 | Mikk | i mean.. what they just don't want to understand is healing ability + best armor + high dps = lolwut? nowai |
| 02:51.52 | Trancer | heh |
| 02:52.03 | Trancer | want a boomkin :/ |
| 02:52.07 | kaiden | So is it just me or are items instant in the mail now |
| 02:52.09 | Mikk | no you don't |
| 02:52.10 | kaiden | and gold takes 1 hour |
| 02:52.23 | Trancer | I do for me! but not good for raid tho :/ |
| 02:52.29 | Wobwork | yes |
| 02:52.35 | Trancer | kaiden: yeah, bugged |
| 02:52.38 | Codayus | kaiden: All items/gold are instant between chars on the same account. |
| 02:52.39 | Mikk | whewt? |
| 02:52.40 | Wobwork | items and gold are instant now, -within the account- |
| 02:52.41 | Trancer | Eyonix is fixing it or so |
| 02:52.59 | Wobwork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174502532&sid=1&pageNo=2#38 |
| 02:53.25 | Codayus | Not bugged, not being changed. :-) |
| 02:53.36 | Trancer | ah |
| 02:53.39 | Trancer | yay for more bankalts! |
| 02:53.53 | fireglow | heh heh, nice |
| 02:53.56 | kaiden | sucks for me because i have 3 accounts and tend to login the unused account i'm not dual boxing on to buy items |
| 02:53.57 | kaiden | :( |
| 02:54.06 | kaiden | they should have left gold instant no matter what hehe |
| 02:54.26 | Wobwork | I like the 'read mail now expires in 30 days, not 3' change |
| 02:54.30 | Codayus | kaiden: The change was mostly to stop RMT apparently, so non-instant gold was sort of the point. |
| 02:54.51 | Codayus | And the "instant items within an account" was the bribe to remove the sting. :-) |
| 02:54.54 | fireglow | Codayus: RMT? |
| 02:54.57 | kaiden | Codayus, yeah i can see that but every RMT website i've seen says they dont do in game delivery anymore via the mailbox |
| 02:54.59 | kaiden | that you have to come to them |
| 02:55.09 | kaiden | and before you say anything no i dont buy gold :P i just like looking at the prices |
| 02:55.10 | Codayus | RMT - Real Money Transactions - Gold selling |
| 02:55.16 | fireglow | oic |
| 02:55.21 | Keias | rofl |
| 02:55.21 | kaiden | i find it intriguing what some people will pay for that stuff |
| 02:55.23 | Keias | I like that line |
| 02:55.28 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 02:55.29 | Keias | [10:55] <kaiden> and before you say anything no i dont buy gold :P i just like looking at the prices |
| 02:55.33 | Keias | Uh huh! |
| 02:55.40 | kaiden | Keias, uh huh.. dumbass |
| 02:55.47 | Keias | That'd be like saying |
| 02:55.53 | Keias | "I'm not gay, but I watch gay porn" |
| 02:55.55 | Codayus | I'd be tempted to buy gold if it was cheaper, I was richer, and it wasn't against the rules. Unfortinatly, I'm 0/3 there... |
| 02:55.57 | kaiden | actually i am gay |
| 02:56.04 | kaiden | :P |
| 02:56.07 | Codayus | That doesn't invalidate the point. |
| 02:56.10 | Keias | Doesn't change the point of my analogy |
| 02:56.17 | kaiden | Codayus, yeah i'm a month to monther |
| 02:56.22 | Trancer | Codayus: nor does it validate his point ;-) |
| 02:56.25 | Codayus | Hmm. |
| 02:56.26 | kaiden | buying gold would mean no groceries that week |
| 02:56.27 | kaiden | hehe |
| 02:56.37 | Codayus | Well, what if you like watching lesbian porn? |
| 02:56.47 | Codayus | I'm not sure what that would imply. |
| 02:56.55 | Trancer | that would imply you are gay |
| 02:56.56 | Gagorian | Does FuBar have to be in OptDepts? |
| 02:56.59 | kaiden | Codayus, i'm not sure it implies anything |
| 02:57.00 | Trancer | according to Keias |
| 02:57.07 | Codayus | Well, if you were FEMALE, right? |
| 02:57.11 | kaiden | i know tons of girls that watch lesbian porn with their boyfriends |
| 02:57.27 | kaiden | and last time i checked none of them are lesbians :P or bi for that matter |
| 02:57.30 | Codayus | Hrm. |
| 02:57.36 | Trancer | not necessarily, if you are female and watch two lesbians, they are still gay, you don't have to be :P |
| 02:57.41 | Keias | You're looking too far into it |
| 02:57.43 | Codayus | False conciousness? |
| 02:57.47 | Trancer | :p |
| 02:57.49 | Trancer | anyway nn |
| 02:58.12 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 02:58.20 | Wobwork | You can watch porn and not be turned on by it |
| 02:58.29 | Codayus | Hm. |
| 02:58.45 | Codayus | Alright, so if you watch gay porn, it only means your gay if you're turned on by it? |
| 02:58.49 | Wobwork | You might be more interested in what it does for the person you're watching it with =) |
| 02:58.53 | Codayus | What does it say if your watching it but NOT turned on by it? |
| 02:59.00 | Wobwork | Codayus: Nah, only if your balls touch =) |
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| 02:59.07 | Keias | lol |
| 02:59.11 | Mikk | Gagorian: yes, fubar needs to be optdepped i do think |
| 02:59.22 | Mikk | (unless there's some mechanism i'm unaware of) |
| 02:59.22 | Codayus | Wait, what does it say if you care about the reaction of someone your watching gay porn with if THEY are turned on by it? |
| 02:59.26 | Keias | Either way, you don't go window shopping unless you have plans on buying. |
| 02:59.26 | Codayus | I mean, logically... |
| 02:59.36 | kreiger | Sup guys' |
| 02:59.37 | Keias | Not that I care, I just found the line funny |
| 02:59.56 | Gagorian | Mikk: Alright. Cause what I saw some addons OptDepped it and some didn't |
| 03:00.10 | Kreiger | Btw, whoever recommended Recount to me, Very awesome mod. |
| 03:00.13 | Wobwork | Codayus: Well in the example above, the gf likes the fact that the bf is turned on by lesbian porn? |
| 03:00.23 | Codayus | Hmm. |
| 03:00.28 | Codayus | Alright, so, logically. |
| 03:00.48 | Wobwork | It all depends on what you're trying to get out of the whole experience |
| 03:00.52 | Codayus | Perhaps a guy is watching gay porn with his gf who is being turned on by it... |
| 03:00.59 | Gagorian | Recount is good but the memory consumption is just unjustified |
| 03:01.06 | Gagorian | It's totally out of hand :) |
| 03:01.16 | Codayus | Alright, there are reasons why you'd watch gay porn without being gay. |
| 03:01.17 | Kreiger | Gagorian, i don't concern myself with memory consumption. I do fine. |
| 03:01.56 | Kreiger | Anybody familar with the workings of Omen? i did have a question about it. |
| 03:02.50 | Gagorian | Ask the question and see :P |
| 03:03.15 | Mikk | when did the topic of #wowace derail into gay porn? o.O |
| 03:03.39 | Wobwork | 15 minutes ago? |
| 03:03.43 | break19 | gahhhh I hate the change to the mail system |
| 03:03.46 | Wobwork | You know better than to look away =P |
| 03:03.47 | Arrowmaster | if fubar isnt optdeped by a mod that uses fubarplugin, it will cause lots of bugs if that mod loads before fubar |
| 03:03.59 | Mikk | break19: you realize that gold PLUS items between toons on your own account is now instant? |
| 03:04.01 | Kreiger | I was tanking Ramparts. and I was holding aggro on multimobs. When the destroyer died, i switched to the hungerer. I noticed on Omen i was NOT top aggro, but i was holding him fine. In fact, i was the last one on Omen aggro list. |
| 03:04.14 | Thrae | Mikk: Oh sorry, I thought "Sites back up and restoration has begun" was suppose to be a veiled sexual innuendo! |
| 03:04.21 | Mikk | Kreiger: you prolly had KTM users in the party |
| 03:04.23 | Xerophyte | Was your party using Omen or KTM? |
| 03:04.23 | Wobwork | Thrae: ditto =) |
| 03:04.40 | Fin | you know what's funny |
| 03:04.45 | break19 | Mikk: uhm.. yea.. but see.. here's the problem.. my WIFE does all the auctioning of stuff |
| 03:04.48 | Wobwork | Frogs in socks |
| 03:04.52 | Mikk | break19: ow |
| 03:04.55 | ckknight | daylight savings time is a plot by the liberal media to keep us under their control |
| 03:04.55 | Kreiger | Well, it was a Pug. so probably all KTM |
| 03:04.58 | Kreiger | why does that matter? |
| 03:05.01 | Fin | no, wait, I'm not going to say that |
| 03:05.05 | break19 | so all MY characters now have to wait an hour to get spending money |
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| 03:05.07 | Codayus | Exactly ckknight. |
| 03:05.17 | Kirkburn | KTM is still top download on Curse >_> |
| 03:05.18 | Mikk | Kreiger: KTM cannot separate aggro between different mobs. it just sends out "my threat is X" |
| 03:05.21 | Xerophyte | Omen shows you the data it gets from them, it doesn't parse your combat log to determine their threat |
| 03:05.27 | Wobwork | Daylight savings should recieve interest |
| 03:05.28 | Mikk | Kreiger: So the best thing Omen can do is assume it applies to all mobs |
| 03:05.37 | Kreiger | Ahhhh. so the aggro from the destroyer continues on to the aggro from hungerer. |
| 03:05.40 | Mikk | yes |
| 03:05.52 | Kreiger | Fucking annoying. I guess i'll have to make them all use Omen then. |
| 03:05.53 | Mikk | if they get threatlib (omen, whatever) it'd have looked better |
| 03:05.56 | Mikk | yes plx =) |
| 03:05.59 | break19 | Wobwork: it did... it lasts longer now.. so it *did* gain interest |
| 03:06.06 | Wobwork | That's true =) |
| 03:06.08 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Ping |
| 03:06.17 | Arrowmaster | KTM is completely useless with multimob groups, yet nobody ever really seems to get it |
| 03:06.26 | Antiarc | not-really-here in-a-heroic pong |
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| 03:06.45 | break19 | which drives me nuts.. the whole dst thing drives me nuts.. not really saving squat. |
| 03:06.52 | Kreiger | I love it tho. use it all the time. the combo of Recount and Omen is ftw. |
| 03:06.53 | Mikk | i hate DST |
| 03:07.04 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Alright. Did you see the discussion earlier about not laoding babble-spell in enUS/enGB locales? |
| 03:07.12 | Kreiger | Does the omen maker hang out here? |
| 03:07.18 | Antiarc | <-- omen author |
| 03:07.19 | Mikk | Kreiger: that's be antiarc |
| 03:07.24 | Antiarc | Gagorian: No, recap for me? |
| 03:07.28 | Kreiger | Ahh, Antiarc /worship |
| 03:07.32 | Antiarc | heh |
| 03:07.42 | Kreiger | Still waiting on the tanking stuff tho. |
| 03:07.54 | Antiarc | I'm in heroc underbog ATM |
| 03:07.56 | break19 | "saving daylight" BS.. more like "screwing up everyones biorythms" |
| 03:08.01 | Antiarc | So apologies if I don't respond quickly >_> |
| 03:08.02 | Wobwork | To me, Antiarc will always be mentally pictured as the guy from DeusEx |
| 03:08.06 | Kreiger | is ok. you have another day before i start killing your family. |
| 03:08.07 | Antiarc | haha |
| 03:08.08 | Gagorian | Antiarc: I was thinking, since Threat-1.0 might be an only Ace2 addon for some people, at least only one that uses babblespell. It might also be worth loading it only for non-enUS locales and doing the rest with a fake metatable. |
| 03:08.56 | Gagorian | So, when people compare static memory cost of KTM/Threat-1.0 it would look a bit better :p |
| 03:09.08 | Mikk | Gagorian: on the other hand, you're just adding bloat to non-english clients. which is in the majority |
| 03:09.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: I like apples. |
| 03:09.44 | Gagorian | Mikk: Non-english majority?! It's just three lines of code anyway |
| 03:09.47 | CIA-22 | 03tardmrr * r43437 10myBindings2/myBindings2.lua: |
| 03:09.47 | CIA-22 | myBindings2: |
| 03:09.47 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.59 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: me too... both kinds: edible, electronic |
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| 03:10.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 03:10.32 | Antiarc | Hooray for Gaim lockups |
| 03:10.33 | Mikk | Anyway... do AceLocale translations stay in memory for locales you aren't using? aren't they tossed on the floor? |
| 03:10.37 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: the electronic ones are edible, you just need to blend them. http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone |
| 03:10.40 | Antiarc | Gagorian: What's the advantage there, though? |
| 03:10.44 | Antiarc | babble-spell will get loaded anyway |
| 03:10.45 | break19 | heh |
| 03:10.54 | Gagorian | Mikk, they're tossed |
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| 03:10.59 | Mikk | so what's the gain? o.O |
| 03:11.03 | jwwpua | Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\Quixote\Quixote-1.0\Quixote-1.0.lua line 455: attempt to compare nil with numberDebug: Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:270: TriggerEvent() Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:910: Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:903 |
| 03:11.15 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: as much as I like OS X.. my next desktop will be a PC.. but all my laptops will always and forever be mac |
| 03:11.15 | Gagorian | Mikk: The english part |
| 03:11.19 | jwwpua | after leaving a BG |
| 03:11.26 | Gagorian | That's about a few thousand table keys? |
| 03:11.38 | Mikk | true |
| 03:11.56 | Mikk | but unless you go molest babble-spell in a bad way, they'll still stay in ram won't they |
| 03:12.03 | Mikk | and you really shouldn't go molest babble-spell :S |
| 03:12.08 | Gagorian | Not if you don't load it at all |
| 03:12.11 | break19 | <- tinkerer... I cant afford a mac pro, and I cant tinker with the imacs. |
| 03:12.13 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: thats sad. i need to get a mac pro at some point. |
| 03:12.13 | Mikk | ah |
| 03:12.44 | NightHawkTheSane | one of the fans in my g5's been acting up. :\ |
| 03:13.07 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: well, if you get a pro, you can make a liar out of me, by donating your G5. :p |
| 03:13.21 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: it would still get loaded when embeded |
| 03:13.29 | break19 | and thats all the motivation ya need.. right? |
| 03:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: haha. no. :D I'll likely stick a bigger HD in this and make it a music/movie/irc/im server |
| 03:13.56 | break19 | gonna make me cry |
| 03:14.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yay |
| 03:14.06 | break19 | teasin me like that. lol |
| 03:14.38 | Antiarc | Gagorian: So what, have a enUS/enGB version and a non-enUS/GB version? |
| 03:15.34 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Indeed. |
| 03:16.01 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: my main problem with mac desktops: they change the mainboard formfacter every time a new model comes out, which makes it impossible to simply upgrade, say.. mainboard and cpu.. for about a quarter of the cost of buyin a new one |
| 03:16.17 | Gagorian | Antiarc: something like http://ace.pastey.net/70632 |
| 03:16.23 | Mikk | they do it on purpose. steve jobs is the devil. |
| 03:16.29 | Mikk | \o/ |
| 03:16.31 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: yeah, that's more or less my main issue with macs. :\ |
| 03:16.41 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: On the other hand, its not as if they don't last fucking forever. :P |
| 03:16.50 | break19 | sure, there are cpu upgrades that come out, but a "cpu upgrade" isnt quite the same as gettin a new MB and CPU |
| 03:17.03 | Antiarc | Gagorian: That still gets loaded when embedded though |
| 03:17.14 | Gagorian | Yeah |
| 03:17.44 | break19 | I mean, my last PC, i spent about 500.00USD a year, and it wasnt exactly top of the line, but it was NEVER slow |
| 03:17.45 | Mikk | and chances are it's slower |
| 03:18.18 | break19 | Mikk: nah, Jobs is a capitalist, he just doesnt know it. |
| 03:18.32 | break19 | so he fights it, and winds up screwin shit up |
| 03:18.32 | Mikk | granted, you COULD start doing the memoizing table thing and filling entries out as they're used |
| 03:18.42 | Mikk | break19: haha |
| 03:18.57 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Perhaps there's some solution that could be worked out for that as well, since I don't see any point in loading it up for enUS/enGB |
| 03:19.12 | Antiarc | I agree, but we'd need two distros to avoid that |
| 03:19.20 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: BulkMail2Inbox, line 64, stack overflow while doing "take cash". |
| 03:19.27 | Mikk | It sounds like lots of pain for a miniscule gain for me |
| 03:19.29 | Mikk | Especially for the average user |
| 03:19.33 | break19 | Mikk: Gates is a capitalist as well, but he came to terms with it a long long LONG time ago.. about the time he told IBM "I wont sell the OS, but I'll license it to you" |
| 03:19.34 | Mikk | Who's going to have babble loaded anyway |
| 03:19.37 | Antiarc | right |
| 03:20.39 | break19 | and gates understands, "dont screw your current customer base by forcing them to buy shit they dont want just yet, make everything backwards compatible, at least for a while" |
| 03:20.40 | ckknight | Gagorian: GetLocale() can never return "enGB" |
| 03:20.51 | Mikk | break19: no, even earlier than that, when he stole most of it off his pal :P |
| 03:20.53 | Gagorian | Oh? :) |
| 03:21.02 | ckknight | it returns "enUS" |
| 03:21.04 | break19 | Mikk: he didnt steal it. he paid 50k for it :p |
| 03:21.15 | Kemayo | jwwpua: Was that the whole debugstack? And what were you doing when it happened? |
| 03:21.27 | Mikk | break19: same diff :P |
| 03:21.30 | break19 | and it wasnt a pal, just someone he knew heh |
| 03:21.35 | jwwpua | Kemayo: it showed up immediately after leaving EotS. i've also seen it after leaving arenas sometimes |
| 03:21.39 | Gagorian | ckknight: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetLocale I just checked from there.. Known returns "enGB" |
| 03:21.55 | xyu | Hey guys, can anyone tell me how many healers you bring to Mag? |
| 03:21.56 | Gagorian | But if it can't return it I'll just remove it |
| 03:21.57 | xyu | just starting out |
| 03:22.00 | jwwpua | Kemayo: that was everything under debug. after that it listed all my addons |
| 03:22.03 | xyu | we're doing pregression and our DPS sucks. |
| 03:22.16 | ckknight | Gagorian: it doesn't. |
| 03:22.20 | xyu | can barely get 3 down before release |
| 03:22.21 | Gagorian | Alright, thanks |
| 03:22.25 | ckknight | Gagorian: I think it used to |
| 03:22.26 | Kemayo | Hm, okay. Let me meditate upon workflow. |
| 03:22.28 | Antiarc | xyu: It's all about the interrupts |
| 03:22.36 | Fin | Kemayo: ew! |
| 03:22.42 | ckknight | check _G.LOCALE_enGB if you need to check for British |
| 03:22.47 | Fin | ohh, meditate |
| 03:22.50 | xyu | Antiarc: we're good at interrupts |
| 03:22.57 | xyu | Our warlocks DPS blows ass |
| 03:22.59 | xyu | theyr'e too busy CC'ing |
| 03:23.03 | xyu | should it be taht way? |
| 03:23.04 | xyu | that* |
| 03:23.11 | xyu | everyone of them are last on the dps |
| 03:23.13 | Mikk | xyu: if you take a look on your damage stats, do you have some people doing 800+dps and some doing ~400, and a nice ladder between them? if so, there's your problem. get the dpsers to dps. mag isn't a fight where half the dps force is allowed to slack. |
| 03:23.31 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: does acelocale support enGB localizations? |
| 03:23.37 | ckknight | no |
| 03:23.48 | Gagorian | ckknight: Is there something we could do one babblelibs side to prevent loading when embedded? Or dump all translations and return the key? |
| 03:23.51 | break19 | Mikk: but I dont begrudge either of em, for their money.. they do what they think is in the best interests of their customers AND their bosses.. the shareholders.. if the customer aint happy, company loses money, which makes the shareholders mad.. if the company doesnt continually attempt to grow it's financial numbers, the shareholders get mad.. so its a balancing act. |
| 03:23.52 | ckknight | because it would complicate things and be pointless in almost all cases |
| 03:23.55 | Arrowmaster | it should for those stupid color/colour stuff |
| 03:24.08 | ckknight | Gagorian: as I said before, I'm not going to do that |
| 03:24.18 | break19 | gotta "get" the customer just enough to keep the shareholders happy, without pissing off the customers. heh |
| 03:24.31 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I don't want to have to add extra u's. Too little ROI. |
| 03:24.46 | Mikk | break19: i know this. i do own a hefty clump of a multinational :P |
| 03:24.59 | Mikk | i can still call steve jobs the devil :> |
| 03:25.02 | Killmore7 | omg, trash before kael sux :( |
| 03:25.15 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i didnt mean for everything, just for those silly british devs that like to use extra u's |
| 03:25.25 | xyu | The top of our DPS is doing 440 and that's only 1 guy |
| 03:25.30 | Xerophyte | Xyu: We use 8 healers and 4 tanks, our warlocks mostly CC stuff and no real problems getting adds down. If your dps sucks, then it's probably easier to retify by whining at them to learn how to stop doing so, really, not a lot of healers you can shift |
| 03:25.32 | xyu | the next guy is doing like 330 and it just drops |
| 03:25.35 | xyu | drastically |
| 03:25.47 | Mikk | xyu: you need better dpsers. seriously. |
| 03:25.49 | Xerophyte | Okay. Your dps really sucks :) |
| 03:25.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah how are you measuring dps? |
| 03:26.05 | Arrowmaster | thats just so low its sad |
| 03:26.32 | break19 | mikk: I owned my own business for a while.. talk about a pain in the ass |
| 03:26.35 | Xerophyte | It's almost impossibly low, I do more than that devastatespamming... |
| 03:26.45 | xyu | Arrowmaster: SWS |
| 03:26.53 | Mikk | break19: ugh yeah. thank god i'm faaaaaaaaaaaar away from accounting now |
| 03:26.53 | xyu | let me reset it |
| 03:26.56 | xyu | for this attempt |
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| 03:28.09 | Mikk | i mean.. my warlock did 400dps sustained back when we were wiping on ragnaros |
| 03:28.18 | Mikk | granted, not 400dps over the fight with sons and shit |
| 03:28.19 | Mikk | but still |
| 03:28.21 | break19 | i honestly cant see how businesses can even survive.. and mine was a fairly benign thing.. I owned my truck, leased onto a company that provided me with plenty of loads.. the thing that killed me was managing expenses.. fuel cost (about $1600USD a week in just fuel) |
| 03:29.24 | Mikk | yeah you're screwed if you attempt to compete with established actors in such fungible areas as small load longhaul |
| 03:29.33 | break19 | i always managed to make profit, just wasnt enough to pay mortage/utilities etc.. |
| 03:29.37 | Mikk | i'm assuming by "own" you mean "was paying on" |
| 03:29.45 | break19 | Mikk: leasing |
| 03:30.17 | break19 | Mikk: but honestly.. if you're signed onto a large company, they make sure you keep moving |
| 03:30.50 | break19 | Mikk: its the truly independant drivers that find their own loads etc.. if THEY make it.. by god they've done something. |
| 03:31.08 | Mikk | hehe |
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| 03:31.31 | Mikk | start with a cheap-ass truck that needed constant maintenance and tender loving and work up from there? |
| 03:31.31 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43439 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Add temporary debug print if compat is nil in OnCommReceive. |
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| 03:31.41 | CIA-22 | 03feu * r43440 10RaidStatus/: |
| 03:31.41 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: initial commit |
| 03:31.41 | CIA-22 | - Minimal addon for global raid information status |
| 03:32.19 | break19 | aint no real "cheap ass truck" my note was 3k a month, for 3 yrs, with an option to purchase at the end, for 30k |
| 03:32.27 | Fisker- | haha can't catch me |
| 03:32.29 | break19 | if it runs good, it's gonna be about 40k to buy it. |
| 03:32.48 | break19 | and thats about 5 years old, with likely half a million or more miles on it |
| 03:33.26 | break19 | a new truck is anywhere from 120k to 250k depending on make and options |
| 03:33.30 | Kemayo | jwwpua: Okay... next time that happens you'll get a load of debug stuff printed in your chat window. I will be very interested to see what that debug stuff is. |
| 03:34.42 | break19 | but dollar for dollar, you are better off getting one no less than 2 yrs old - due to vast improvements in fuel economy, cheaper maintenence, etc |
| 03:34.59 | Kemayo | ckknight: Every time I log in, PitBull thinks I'm afk... |
| 03:35.03 | break19 | the avg new truck, under a full, legal load, gets about 6-7mpg |
| 03:35.31 | ckknight | Kemayo: yea, me too |
| 03:35.34 | ckknight | Kemayo: I'll look into it |
| 03:35.37 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: i have the same problem, but the tag only appears on ToT frame |
| 03:37.00 | break19 | but here's where it gets interesting.. when the EPA said, for the 02 model year trucks to reduce emissions, avg fuel economies dropped by 20-30%, and they dropped again in 07 due to less sulfur in the fuel.. sulfur adds horsepower, to move the same load with less power, takes burning more fuel to compensate. |
| 03:39.11 | Kirkburn | Mikk, something to please you - some of the [[Category:Templates which should have been local]] are being sorted :D |
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| 03:39.50 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43442 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Winterchill.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Winterchill: add a rough enrage timer, around 10 minutes |
| 03:41.33 | Gagorian | can UnitDamage("unit") returns 3 and 4 be nil? |
| 03:41.40 | Gagorian | (can't test it atm cause servers are down) |
| 03:41.50 | break19 | so to compensate for the higher MPG, most US companies have begun governing their trucks to a max of 65mph, some go a little higher to 70 or 75mph. kept fuel economy roughly the same.. BUT increased driver fatigue and increased accidents, as motorists get pissed off when a 68mph truck passes a 65mph truck. drivers are on a tight schedule, they generally have to go flat out (if their truck is goverened) allll the time because th |
| 03:42.08 | ckknight | Gagorian: they're 0 for me |
| 03:42.12 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 03:42.37 | ckknight | break19: because th.... |
| 03:42.41 | Gagorian | Since.. I just got an error report about them being nil even after I check for OffhandHasWeapon() |
| 03:42.41 | ckknight | (you cut off) |
| 03:42.49 | break19 | so the next time you think that trucker is just trying to slow you down.. remember that.. he's probably going as fast as he can, and as soon as he's clear, he'll likely get outta her way :p |
| 03:43.19 | break19 | woops....because the companies only budget in enough time for the delivery, as it would take at top speed, plus a small buffer for traffic congestion and rest periods |
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| 03:43.29 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: I never think truckers try to slow me down. I just get pissed off when they're not in the right lane so i can pass. |
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| 03:43.55 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: we have just as much a right to pass a slower vehicle as you do. just takes us a little longer. patience is a virtue :) |
| 03:44.18 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: And that's the problem. You really either a) shouldn't have the right to pass, or b) have dedicated truck lanes. |
| 03:44.30 | break19 | dont blame the trucker.. blame company for governing the truck, or blame the reason they had to.. over-regulation |
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| 03:44.49 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:44.49 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW: Inventory |
| 03:44.52 | ckknight | damn regulation |
| 03:44.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I always blame the corporations, they're the ones who run things, so they're the ones at fault. |
| 03:45.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Over-regulation isn't the problem |
| 03:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | poor regulation is the problem. |
| 03:45.28 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: uhm.. if you want to get technical, the US interstate was designed as a commercial throughway so trucks could get to cities faster without worrying about redlights and intersections, they decided to open em to the public after a huge outcry |
| 03:45.28 | ckknight | government regulation = poor regulation |
| 03:45.37 | break19 | ckknight: amen :) |
| 03:46.01 | ckknight | corporations have to exist within governmental laws |
| 03:46.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: that's an idiotic viewpoint, But i'm a socialist, so ;) |
| 03:46.15 | break19 | and, for that matter, truckers pay a HUGE share of the federal highway tax. |
| 03:46.22 | ckknight | so they have to live with government regulation |
| 03:46.37 | ckknight | which hinders them more than helps in many cases |
| 03:46.59 | ckknight | I'm a libertarian, NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:47.01 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: yeah, i'm aware of that, but the problem still remains, you have both freight and passengers attempting to use the same transit, and it really does lead to problems for both sides. |
| 03:47.08 | ckknight | I'd suggest you not call my views idiotic |
| 03:47.20 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: so use the US highways, they were designed for passenger traffic |
| 03:47.25 | ckknight | so what's your solution? |
| 03:47.25 | break19 | not interstates :) |
| 03:47.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: Well, they are. But I'm not going to get into a discussion, because I don't care enough. :) |
| 03:47.55 | break19 | you choose to get onto the interstate, then you choose to share the road with trucks |
| 03:48.20 | abug | illegal prime numbers are evil |
| 03:48.35 | break19 | abug: 7, legal or illegal? |
| 03:48.38 | ckknight | abug: ? |
| 03:48.46 | ckknight | break19: depends on the state. |
| 03:48.51 | break19 | rofl |
| 03:49.39 | abug | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime |
| 03:49.39 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: that's an outdated viewpoint, and ought to be remedied, really. I'm not saying either one should be favored, but our existing transportation infrastructure is not really well equipped for modern society : |
| 03:49.39 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
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| 03:50.23 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: true, however, revamping it will be a massive undertaking. |
| 03:50.29 | Funkeh` | whats a good non retarded and readable font for irc |
| 03:50.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: I like courier, but any good programming font should work |
| 03:50.48 | abug | impact? |
| 03:51.04 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Whatever PuTTY uses is fine by me, in UTF-8 of course |
| 03:51.08 | ckknight | I don't know why IRC should be fixed-width |
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| 03:51.48 | CIA-22 | - Adding base files |
| 03:51.48 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: Agreed, and ultimately the best solution is more than just roadways, but meh. |
| 03:51.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43445 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - possibly fix the afk on login bug. I dunno, maybe. |
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| 03:52.10 | ckknight | break19: one which would frankly fail most any cost/benefit analysis |
| 03:52.19 | break19 | and quite frankly, with all the zoning requirements, environmental concerns, etc.. I cant see it happening on a major basis, but on a per-city basis, it *IS* happening |
| 03:52.28 | break19 | ckknight: exactly |
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| 03:52.44 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: that doesn't make sense |
| 03:53.15 | break19 | ckknight: you'd think after 50 years, cars and trucks would have learned to SHARE the road.. not say "its MY road, get the hell outta my way" |
| 03:53.24 | ckknight | ... |
| 03:53.38 | ckknight | oh well |
| 03:53.42 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: its not a "cars and trucks" thing its a "people are idiots" thing |
| 03:53.48 | Thrae | break19: You're forgetting ckknight is a hedonist ;) |
| 03:54.01 | ckknight | I thought I was just a sadist |
| 03:54.07 | ckknight | gah, too many isms, Thrae |
| 03:54.32 | RogueShadow_ | You... Ismist! |
| 03:54.40 | Thrae | ckknight: You're a Libertarian and you've never heard of hedonism? I've had myself called that a few times when I was debating the boons of Libertarianism :D |
| 03:54.58 | RogueShadow | darn you Ismist... |
| 03:55.30 | Thrae | ~dict hedonism |
| 03:55.54 | nymbia | hedonismbot? |
| 03:55.56 | Thrae | ~dict hedonism 1 |
| 03:55.56 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: I see it from a "higher" perspective.. literally and figuratively. and while there are a few truckers out there that simply dont care (we call em supertruckers, and it AINT a compliment) the fact is, the majority of car drivers simply dont know any better |
| 03:56.09 | Thrae | ~dict 1 hedonism |
| 03:56.28 | Thrae | OK, purl's dictionary is weird |
| 03:56.36 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: the majority of "-people-" don't know better. like i said, people are basically idiots. |
| 03:56.44 | break19 | ckknight: I'm a libertarian at heart myself, unfortunately, I dont see it as a viable choice unless EVERYONE ELSE was also a libertarian. |
| 03:57.43 | Thrae | break19: Some Libertarians truly are "Eh, take it away and let God sort 'em all out" :D |
| 03:58.14 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: most truckers *DO* know better, since they've made a career out of it.. the supertruckers know as well, they dont care.. the problem comes in when the small car thinks he's got enough room behind him to move over in front of you.. except, you cant see his bumper OR his brake lights.. he hits his brakes.. hes dead. |
| 03:58.33 | Thrae | ~ckknight |
| 03:58.46 | purl | 05:07 <@ckknight> Adirelle: f*ck the regular users? |
| 03:58.46 | break19 | and you, as the trucker, cant exactly slow down easily.. |
| 03:59.06 | nymbia | ~literal ckknight |
| 03:59.07 | purl | "ckknight" is "<reply> 05:07 <@ckknight> nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip || <reply> 05:08 <@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to || <reply> 05:02 <@ckknight> what do I get out of it? || <reply> 05:07 <@ckknight> Adirelle: f*ck the regular users?" |
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| 03:59.19 | Thrae | Hedonism~~~~ |
| 03:59.24 | break19 | and if you slam on the brakes, then you could shift the load, damaging merchandise, or even worse, munbalance the load which would cause you to lose control. |
| 04:00.08 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: i can't accept that "most" of anyone knows better. You might like to believe so, as a trucker, but ultimately fault isn't strictly on one side or another, and over the whole, it probably is reasonably balanced, proportionally. |
| 04:00.36 | RogueShadow | ~listeral RogueShadow |
| 04:00.44 | RogueShadow | ~literal RogueShadow |
| 04:01.04 | RogueShadow | :( |
| 04:01.23 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: It may or may not make sense... but it's definitely the error my non-gender specific life-partner gave me. |
| 04:01.26 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: quite simply, we are TRAINED to know.. we are held to MUCH higher standards of driving.. for example.. you approach an intersection with a green light, an idiot runs the light and you clip the tail end of him. who's fault? |
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| 04:02.02 | RogueShadow | ~RogueShadow |
| 04:02.27 | break19 | if that was a trucker that clipped him, it's considered a preventable accident, the trucker's version of fault.. you should have been watching for it and you would have been able to react in time to just miss it.... |
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| 04:04.34 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: meh, I can see you're not willing to admit that truckers are people too, so I'm not going to continue this, as neither of us are going to change our minds. |
| 04:05.14 | break19 | sure we're people.. why can you not see what I'm getting at? we know better because we HAVE to, or we dont drive the truck anymore. period. |
| 04:05.33 | break19 | if I rear end someone, my career is over, no ifs ands or butts. |
| 04:05.36 | NightHawkTheSane | The same applies to lots of people aside from truckers, though. |
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| 04:05.45 | break19 | if YOU rear end someone, you pay the insurance. |
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| 04:06.33 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: certainly does.. someone who works on computers knows more about them than someone who doesnt.. so why is it a stretch to think that someone who drives for a living knows more about driving. |
| 04:06.53 | NightHawkTheSane | And people who work on computers still do dumb things with them. |
| 04:07.11 | break19 | they certainly do, but not as often as those who dont, and THINK they do |
| 04:08.26 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, like i said, neither of us are going to change our minds, and i don't have the energy to continue this, so i won't. |
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| 04:09.42 | break19 | good, then im goin to bed |
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| 04:15.48 | art3mis | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm4JMHL4tuE |
| 04:16.32 | Trisorion | What is truket slang for a passenger? |
| 04:16.39 | Trisorion | trucker |
| 04:18.06 | art3mis | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Icb_tRTnA4g&mode=related&search= <- living colour cover of the above |
| 04:20.27 | art3mis | oh i was watching the antional geographic channel and appearantly thiers a mummy museum in california who ordered two mummies for 4000$ from a neiman marcus catalogue in the 70s |
| 04:20.48 | art3mis | turns out the two mummies dated back to about 1700BC or so |
| 04:22.14 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom dates back to 1700 bc. |
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| 04:22.50 | ckknight | lol, NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:23.17 | Nosrac | rofl |
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| 04:36.11 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
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| 04:37.03 | Mikk | WHY AM I FIXING DIABLOWIKIS LOGO? |
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| 04:37.23 | Mikk | pardon. just had to vent. |
| 04:38.52 | NightHawkTheSane | .. this is irc, not vent. >.> |
| 04:38.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 04:38.54 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 04:39.18 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: yes she does |
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| 04:39.41 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: the benefit is that a few more centuries and i've got me 1 gallon of gas completely free! |
| 04:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: indeed! |
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| 04:42.08 | Demone | evening all |
| 04:42.49 | Demone | wow, its quiet... |
| 04:43.48 | Aenslaed | woo! 5pc T5 :D |
| 04:44.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Ehh, I can't say much, I got back in here a minute before you did. |
| 04:45.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Redoing this PC, still got a ton of shit to reinstall and configure. |
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| 04:48.20 | Demone | either of you two really familiar with pitbull? |
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| 04:53.46 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: |
| 04:53.46 | CIA-22 | - TOC updated |
| 04:55.28 | Aenslaed | i use pitbull, but i wouldn't say really familiar |
| 04:56.53 | Demone | im determined to make my setup look like the one velveeta posted on the ace forums, lol |
| 04:56.57 | Demone | but running into a few issues |
| 04:57.01 | Demone | like the border.... |
| 04:57.11 | Demone | and the little crossed sword picture in the lower left corner |
| 04:59.07 | dylanm_ | Demone: Where's this? |
| 04:59.21 | Demone | one sec, ill get the link |
| 04:59.47 | Demone | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 |
| 04:59.59 | Xerophyte | What's up with them? |
| 05:00.02 | Demone | the ones by velveeta (second setup posted after ck's note) |
| 05:00.08 | Demone | im trying to mimic them and not quite there :-D |
| 05:00.35 | dylanm_ | Demone: For the combat icon -- there are options for that... I believe it's under "icons". |
| 05:01.13 | dylanm_ | Demone: You could just import his settings -- seems to be the point of the thread. |
| 05:01.24 | Demone | have done that already. |
| 05:01.33 | Demone | it doesnt change which modules you have enabled or disabled... |
| 05:01.40 | dylanm_ | Demone: What's wrong with it? |
| 05:01.41 | Demone | seems i stripped down a fair number of them |
| 05:01.57 | Demone | so because mine are disabled, the import doesnt restore the module settings that the person uses |
| 05:02.05 | Demone | and the last one i cannot figure out is the border... |
| 05:02.05 | dylanm_ | Demone: Ah. Enable those :) |
| 05:02.12 | Demone | i didnt know which ones were what, lol |
| 05:02.15 | Demone | thats my whole problem :-D |
| 05:02.48 | Demone | now that you said combat icon, ive reenabled that one and combat text (since i was curious about that, stood to reason thats the "dodge" in his picture for target frame) |
| 05:03.10 | dylanm_ | You could try enabling all of them and removing one by one... I don't think the border settings are split out into a module. |
| 05:04.14 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
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| 05:05.04 | NightHawkTheSane | I can listen to my own station on last.fm if I'm not logged in, but if I am logged in, I can. *boggle* |
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| 05:06.39 | dylanm_ | Demone: You might have to change the border setting yourself. |
| 05:06.44 | Demone | how? |
| 05:06.50 | Demone | I havent found anything to change that setting |
| 05:06.55 | dylanm_ | Demone: I don't see any specification for it in the layouts in this thread. |
| 05:06.58 | Demone | ive looked through the modules and configurations |
| 05:06.59 | dylanm_ | Um it's in... |
| 05:07.09 | dylanm_ | It's definitely there. Might be in global settings... |
| 05:07.18 | dylanm_ | I'll load up WoW :p |
| 05:07.33 | Demone | oooh, one sec |
| 05:07.37 | Demone | it does borders for ELITE mobs |
| 05:07.39 | Demone | i see now |
| 05:07.47 | dylanm_ | Naw, that's a separate thing. |
| 05:07.47 | Demone | you were right, it was under global settings |
| 05:07.49 | Demone | oh? |
| 05:07.59 | dylanm_ | Well I think it only works if you do have a border enabled. |
| 05:08.09 | dylanm_ | But yeah, glad you found the basic border pref :) |
| 05:08.42 | Demone | the one i found says show colored border on elite or rare unit |
| 05:08.46 | Demone | no other border settings |
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| 05:09.32 | dylanm_ | Oh wait here we go. |
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| 05:09.52 | dylanm_ | It's a unit-specific (or global) setting. Under Other -> Borders |
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| 05:10.07 | NimbleRabit | Does anyone know of a mod that will help me track the time on my -partners- cyclone? |
| 05:10.16 | dylanm_ | By global I mean the "All Units" settings. |
| 05:10.36 | Xerophyte | At risk of being pressed to death by stones and all: NECB? |
| 05:10.38 | Demone | :) |
| 05:10.39 | Demone | ty |
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| 05:11.03 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:11.03 | CIA-22 | - drycoded maybe-fix for Take Cash lockup |
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| 05:12.39 | dylanm_ | Happy to help :) |
| 05:13.54 | dylanm_ | Was just messing with Pitbull today... getting some good ideas from the Elitist Jerks forums. I've always been a top-left corner guy but putting some frames in the center has helped my healing. |
| 05:14.36 | Demone | im not good enough with this stuff for all that yet |
| 05:14.36 | Demone | lol |
| 05:15.04 | Demone | i have a hard enough time keeping my mage alive |
| 05:15.10 | Demone | id hate to have to keep others alive right now |
| 05:16.37 | dylanm_ | Mages are more fun :) |
| 05:16.46 | Demone | yeah, once you know what youre doing :-D |
| 05:16.55 | dylanm_ | I love my class and all but when I'm soloing I'm bored out of my skull. |
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| 05:17.50 | Demone | im actually surprised i got my ui looking as nice as it does |
| 05:17.57 | Demone | took me a while finding out about all of the mods available, lol |
| 05:18.20 | Demone | rather, all the mods i use... |
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| 05:22.48 | CIA-22 | Proximo: |
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| 05:22.48 | CIA-22 | - Added Mana Bar Height option |
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| 05:29.07 | ckknight | I am done S1 of X-Files |
| 05:29.09 | ckknight | finally |
| 05:29.14 | ckknight | I'm gonna code now |
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| 05:32.02 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: |
| 05:32.03 | CIA-22 | - Added localization files (EN, FR) |
| 05:32.03 | CIA-22 | - Addon declaration |
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| 05:35.56 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/diablowiki.jpg |
| 05:36.20 | Trisorion | How do you know what people are bots |
| 05:36.32 | Trisorion | painting fire? |
| 05:36.55 | Mikk | yeah i painted that just now |
| 05:37.06 | Mikk | and it's not turning out right |
| 05:37.42 | Trisorion | bye |
| 05:37.47 | Xerophyte | Diablo ... Wifi? :) |
| 05:37.51 | Kirkburn | angie not angela :) Different people |
| 05:38.01 | Kirkburn | (which I confused at first >< ) |
| 05:38.06 | Trisorion | ~dict tree |
| 05:38.10 | Trisorion | mt |
| 05:38.20 | Trisorion | lol? |
| 05:38.24 | Kirkburn | MikkZzz, one is my boss, one isn;t :P |
| 05:39.17 | Kirkburn | MikkZzz, good work on the pic :) Sleep well! |
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| 05:40.10 | Xuerian | Yipee.... back on the old P3 box. |
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| 05:46.21 | CIA-22 | 03feu * r43454 10RaidStatus/RaidStatus.lua: |
| 05:46.21 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: |
| 05:46.21 | CIA-22 | - Added options table |
| 05:46.21 | CIA-22 | - Register chat commands |
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| 06:01.34 | theoddone33 | and so my hatred for the fact that you can't lower your reputation with darkmoon faire to hated arises once again |
| 06:02.39 | Leachim | Why you want to lower the reputation from the darkmoon faire?^^ |
| 06:02.52 | theoddone33 | because I hate that stupid orc jester guy that wanders around org |
| 06:03.07 | Leachim | lol |
| 06:03.11 | theoddone33 | and I don't like that the game doesn't let me kill him |
| 06:03.26 | theoddone33 | probably saves a lot of griefing though |
| 06:03.48 | Leachim | Protest against game retrictions?^^ |
| 06:04.31 | Xerophyte | You'd think they could at least make the OG barker horde-aligned so you could reroll and kill him, yep |
| 06:04.33 | theoddone33 | if darkmoon NPCs could be attacked the faire would never have any NPCs around to do anything |
| 06:05.15 | fireglow | :D |
| 06:05.18 | fireglow | true |
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| 06:06.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43455 10CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip_Appearance - skin all GameTooltips, not just the standard GameTooltip. |
| 06:06.35 | ckknight | alright, now all tooltips will look the same |
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| 06:06.57 | Trisorion | ~dict ckknight |
| 06:07.05 | Trisorion | aww |
| 06:07.08 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:07.17 | ckknight | you gotta do ~ckknight or ~emulate ckknight |
| 06:07.34 | Trisorion | what does that do? |
| 06:07.42 | Xuerian | ~ckknight |
| 06:07.43 | purl | 05:07 <@ckknight> nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip |
| 06:07.46 | theoddone33 | causes a new mod to be started |
| 06:08.03 | ckknight | lol, theoddone33 |
| 06:08.26 | ckknight | I think Thrae stuck a bunch of my quotes from a few days ago into ~ckknight |
| 06:08.29 | ckknight | ~literal ckknight |
| 06:08.29 | purl | "ckknight" is "<reply> 05:07 <@ckknight> nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip || <reply> 05:08 <@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to || <reply> 05:02 <@ckknight> what do I get out of it? || <reply> 05:07 <@ckknight> Adirelle: f*ck the regular users?" |
| 06:08.50 | ckknight | notice they're all in the same 10-minute timespan |
| 06:09.09 | ckknight | ~factstats ckknight |
| 06:09.14 | ckknight | it was good before |
| 06:09.19 | Trisorion | is there a command to change the dictionary's defonition of a word |
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| 06:09.31 | ckknight | ~factinfo ckknight |
| 06:09.31 | purl | ckknight -- last modified 2d 11h 17s ago by Thrae!i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net; it has been requested 31 times, last by Xuerian, 1m 48s ago. |
| 06:09.36 | ckknight | Trisorion: nope |
| 06:09.37 | Jagobah | http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~vulture/WoW/omen-is-the-worst-mod-ever.jpg gasp |
| 06:09.42 | ckknight | yep, Thrae changed it |
| 06:09.53 | Trisorion | its true |
| 06:09.59 | Trisorion | oment got me kicked out of my guild |
| 06:10.56 | ckknight | ? |
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| 06:11.25 | Trisorion | dosent the mob in that screenshot have a knockback |
| 06:11.30 | Trisorion | lol |
| 06:11.51 | Xuerian | A ktm skin for omen? |
| 06:12.14 | Xuerian | Old version if it is omen, anyway. |
| 06:12.36 | Trisorion | meh |
| 06:12.40 | Xuerian | Not to mention it still hasn't hit release... >_> |
| 06:13.07 | Trisorion | Yeah it still isent accurate if you are doing a fight with people who use KTM- there is a master target and mobs with the same name |
| 06:13.38 | Trisorion | but that sounds like a pain to fix |
| 06:13.46 | Trisorion | id rather everyone just use omen |
| 06:13.47 | Xerophyte | I think the tank was the one with Omen in that screenie, not the poster |
| 06:16.16 | Jagobah | the poster was a warlock |
| 06:17.38 | Arrowmaster | its just vulture, hes always an ass |
| 06:18.02 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Personally acquainted? :P |
| 06:18.23 | Arrowmaster | used to be on my server till his guild transfered |
| 06:18.46 | Xuerian | ahh |
| 06:18.50 | Thrae | ~ckknight |
| 06:18.51 | purl | ckknight is probably A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. |
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| 06:19.07 | Xuerian | ... |
| 06:19.14 | Xuerian | Fail. |
| 06:19.15 | Xuerian | You fail. |
| 06:19.17 | ckknight | that's tame |
| 06:19.18 | Xuerian | In fact |
| 06:19.19 | Thrae | ~emulate ckknight |
| 06:19.20 | purl | if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
| 06:19.21 | Xuerian | you FACE fails |
| 06:19.25 | Xuerian | ... |
| 06:19.26 | Xuerian | ok |
| 06:19.28 | Xuerian | well |
| 06:19.29 | Xuerian | that's fine. |
| 06:19.35 | ckknight | there should be quite a lot in my emulate |
| 06:19.39 | ckknight | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 06:19.39 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "<reply> nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip || <reply> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to || <reply> what do I get out of it? || <reply> f*ck the regular users?" |
| 06:19.50 | ckknight | man, there were good ones in that |
| 06:19.52 | ckknight | what was it before? |
| 06:20.13 | ckknight | most of it was insulting the users as well, but it was classic |
| 06:21.33 | Antiarc | What valid substitutions are there for macros besides %t? |
| 06:22.10 | Arrowmaster | %f |
| 06:22.17 | Arrowmaster | %n too i think |
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| 06:23.45 | theoddone33 | so someone said something about mangle rip something something.... I had a duel with a druid earlier |
| 06:23.55 | theoddone33 | neither one of us were trying, he was 70 and I was a 66 paladin |
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| 06:24.00 | theoddone33 | the duel lasted for 9 minutes |
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| 06:25.29 | Thrae | ~ckknight |
| 06:25.30 | purl | methinks ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 06:25.42 | Thrae | Xuerian: Better? |
| 06:25.43 | Xuerian | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 06:25.43 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "<reply><@ckknight> nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip || <reply><@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to || <reply><@ckknight> what do I get out of it? || <reply><@ckknight> f*ck the regular users? || <reply><@ckknight> f*ck you, guy || <reply><@ckknight> You know why? Because you touch ... |
| 06:25.56 | sylvanaar | Antiarc prat has a ton which were in CFE2 |
| 06:26.09 | Xuerian | Thrae: Most of the fail has faded. |
| 06:26.16 | Xuerian | It's still too cutesy. |
| 06:26.37 | Xuerian | theoddone33: I hate BE paladins. |
| 06:26.45 | Xuerian | hate, hate hate hateittyhatehatehate. |
| 06:26.48 | sylvanaar | i like the be music |
| 06:26.52 | Thrae | Xuerian: Well, I'm trying to keep to proper purl form -- emulate gives quotes, ~foo gives a definition |
| 06:27.11 | sylvanaar | i do alot of coding on my BE warlock "workinonamod" |
| 06:27.49 | theoddone33 | it was not as epic as the duel I watched between a holy priest and a paladin at 60... it lasted over 30 minutes and only ended because the priest gave up |
| 06:28.29 | Xuerian | sylvanaar: Apt name |
| 06:28.51 | sylvanaar | keeps the turtle away |
| 06:29.45 | Xuerian | theoddone33: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UBAoFIBrqbU |
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| 06:31.36 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 06:31.57 | sylvanaar | the 2 pallies |
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| 06:32.33 | Funkeh` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkLGglMg2TA |
| 06:33.10 | sylvanaar | lol the chat bubbles are funny |
| 06:33.51 | Trisorion | ~dict sanguine |
| 06:34.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43456 10Parrot/ (Display.lua Parrot.toc Suppressions.lua): Parrot - add Suppression system. No options yet. |
| 06:34.45 | Funkeh` | ckknight: tell your mom im going to be a little late tonight |
| 06:34.52 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:35.40 | Trisorion | ? |
| 06:36.16 | Xuerian | yah dun wanna noes. |
| 06:38.12 | Funkeh` | later folks |
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| 06:43.11 | cncfanatics | Hello everyone |
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| 06:50.27 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r43457 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 06:50.27 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:50.27 | CIA-22 | - Loot improvements |
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| 06:54.39 | omega_ | ckknight: is Parrot like sct? |
| 06:55.08 | ckknight | yes, omega_ |
| 06:55.16 | omega_ | nice |
| 06:55.19 | omega_ | must test :) |
| 06:55.20 | ckknight | though its primary operative is the eating of crackers |
| 06:55.30 | ilifin | munch munch |
| 06:55.31 | ckknight | being a combat text addon is merely a side effect |
| 06:55.32 | omega_ | thats a good idea as well |
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| 06:59.44 | theoddone33 | how does hunter rogue pally sound for a 3v3? |
| 07:01.24 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 07:09.40 | Neebler | the top 3, 3v3's is rogue/icemage/priest |
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| 07:10.39 | theoddone33 | not too different |
| 07:12.01 | theoddone33 | mage has better CC and anti-spell than hunter |
| 07:12.19 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r43458 10Sphere/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:12.19 | CIA-22 | Sphere: - More optimization |
| 07:12.19 | CIA-22 | - Also fixed Tooltip nil bug |
| 07:12.27 | theoddone33 | pally has better survivability but no offsensive dispell |
| 07:15.05 | Elkano | unfortunatly people in WoW don't die from starvation ;) |
| 07:15.41 | theoddone33 | I haven't really figured out how to deal with assist trains yet |
| 07:15.44 | theoddone33 | which is bad |
| 07:16.06 | Benumbed | watched (off and on) holy paladin vs oomkin druid fight,took 3 hrs =x |
| 07:16.16 | theoddone33 | nice |
| 07:16.26 | theoddone33 | (who won?) |
| 07:16.28 | Benumbed | dunno how they did it, i would have said screw this after 5 mins |
| 07:16.32 | Benumbed | paladin |
| 07:16.46 | Benumbed | neither wanted to lose that bad i guess |
| 07:16.47 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:17.06 | theoddone33 | after the 20 minute mark I'd think you definitely don't want to lose |
| 07:17.21 | Benumbed | well i would have gave up at 5 mins heh |
| 07:17.25 | Elkano | morning ammo |
| 07:17.38 | Benumbed | would cyclone, run away and drink..stealth etc |
| 07:17.45 | Benumbed | paladin stun run and drink |
| 07:17.47 | Benumbed | yawn |
| 07:18.38 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:18.57 | [Ammo] | anyone know of a gamevideo recording app that can do 1280x1024? |
| 07:19.05 | [Ammo] | silly fraps can't so it records in halfsize |
| 07:19.47 | Elkano | gamecam? |
| 07:19.55 | theoddone33 | I read about some ridiculous hardware setup that can do HD WoW videos on mac |
| 07:20.03 | theoddone33 | but it's like $4000 addon card + final cut pro |
| 07:20.05 | phyphor | When you find one let me know. I want one that records in 1920x1200 |
| 07:20.37 | [Ammo] | I only have a non-regged gamecam |
| 07:20.45 | [Ammo] | which won't go beyond 512x.. |
| 07:20.57 | cncfanatics | anyone here good with waterfall that could help me ? |
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| 07:22.03 | nevcairiel | why cant fraps do it? i think they increased the max size in one of the newer versions |
| 07:22.13 | phyphor | ooh, so they did |
| 07:22.29 | phyphor | 2560x1600 in full size if you a) pay for it and b) have a dual-core CPU |
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| 07:23.00 | ckknight | http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/omfg.jpg |
| 07:23.09 | [Ammo] | ah b) is my problem |
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| 07:23.23 | phyphor | I have b, it's the whole (a) I'm worried about |
| 07:23.24 | [Ammo] | no dual core ftl |
| 07:23.38 | phyphor | man I love my laptop sometimes |
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| 07:24.23 | Benumbed | reloading ui after update = bad |
| 07:24.24 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: rofl |
| 07:24.39 | Benumbed | 42982 errors on parrot cause was lazy |
| 07:25.01 | [Ammo] | I guess I'll have to fraps on my laptop but playing on the laptop is wonkky |
| 07:25.55 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=902 |
| 07:26.05 | ckknight | Benumbed: blah! |
| 07:26.12 | ckknight | Benumbed: what's the top error? |
| 07:26.22 | Benumbed | error loading plugin supression |
| 07:26.32 | Benumbed | like i said, reloaded ui after update |
| 07:26.39 | Benumbed | so wow didnt see the new file |
| 07:27.03 | ckknight | ah. |
| 07:27.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:27.32 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=826 <--- lol |
| 07:27.54 | Benumbed | heh |
| 07:28.04 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=848 |
| 07:28.18 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=907 <-- politically incorrect |
| 07:29.00 | Benumbed | got error, sec i post |
| 07:29.08 | ckknight | hehe: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=962 |
| 07:30.17 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=768 |
| 07:30.19 | Benumbed | combatevents, 142 |
| 07:30.26 | Benumbed | index global self |
| 07:30.27 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=513 |
| 07:31.13 | pb_ee1 | Does wowace support gold selling for World of Warcraft? |
| 07:31.32 | ckknight | pb_ee1: no, there shouldn't be any gold selling ads |
| 07:31.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43459 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - bugfix |
| 07:31.38 | pb_ee1 | I've found one then |
| 07:31.40 | Benumbed | ckknight, happens when i try to change color and color picker pops up, so must be your SetColor function or w/e |
| 07:31.44 | pb_ee1 | www.gamegoods.fr |
| 07:31.45 | ckknight | pb_ee1: inform Kaelten |
| 07:31.46 | Benumbed | nm |
| 07:31.47 | pb_ee1 | k |
| 07:32.05 | pb_ee1 | PM on wowace will be ok? |
| 07:32.10 | ckknight | frankly, if it were to pay the bills, I'd have no real issues with gold ads, it's just that there'd be a community backlash because of it |
| 07:32.15 | ckknight | pb_ee1: yea. |
| 07:32.19 | pb_ee1 | Thanks ;) |
| 07:33.00 | Trisorion | ~ckknight |
| 07:33.01 | purl | well, ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 07:33.17 | Benumbed | i had backup account that i sent money to, since 2 other ppl have access...well it was banned a week ago due to being china or something |
| 07:33.37 | Trisorion | ~emulate ckknight |
| 07:33.37 | purl | ACTION -- ERRO |
| 07:33.43 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a901/shirtdetail_a901.htm |
| 07:33.44 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/22xscw |
| 07:33.45 | Trisorion | erro? wtf |
| 07:33.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:33.56 | Benumbed | there reason was because lvl 1 alt with so much money, so stupid |
| 07:33.58 | Trisorion | as in asian hello>? |
| 07:34.01 | Elkano | Benumbed: well, account sharing is against ToS, too ;) |
| 07:34.11 | Benumbed | well your missing point tho lol |
| 07:34.20 | Benumbed | no one had access to that one account |
| 07:34.29 | Benumbed | was where i sent my money |
| 07:34.31 | ckknight | Shrek! http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=929 |
| 07:34.47 | Benumbed | but because it was lvl 1 alt with so much money, they immediately thought after w/e check it was china |
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| 07:35.03 | Benumbed | instead of looking to see that money only went between the two accounts, not 50000 |
| 07:35.07 | Trisorion | "it was china" |
| 07:35.46 | seba | lol at those t-shirts |
| 07:35.51 | Trisorion | Why do full body 3d models leave 45% of the area unused? |
| 07:35.52 | Benumbed | sorry, correct term they used was foreign exchange |
| 07:35.54 | Elkano | h, so you saved money from your main account? :/ |
| 07:35.56 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=862 |
| 07:36.02 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=42 |
| 07:36.22 | Benumbed | yeah, just did it that way in case ever hacked or brother in law was asshole |
| 07:36.28 | Benumbed | and backfired |
| 07:36.45 | Wobwork | http://www.flickr.com/photos/lichtfaktor/with/564892547/ |
| 07:37.06 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=323 |
| 07:37.22 | Benumbed | What is InsertButtonName Flash? |
| 07:37.26 | Benumbed | on checkedbutton |
| 07:38.15 | seba | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=800 |
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| 07:38.41 | Wobwork | ckknight: I've seen that one before |
| 07:38.46 | ckknight | awesome: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=668 |
| 07:38.50 | Wobwork | "We put the laughter back into manslaughter!" |
| 07:39.05 | Elkano | ck: http://www.3dsupply.de/3d/img/produkte/00002013.jpg |
| 07:39.12 | Trisorion | is wobwork your name, or are you wob and at work? |
| 07:39.31 | ckknight | he's wobin |
| 07:39.33 | ckknight | at work |
| 07:39.51 | Elkano | or http://www.3dsupply.de/3d/img/produkte/00001986.jpg ;) |
| 07:40.04 | Trisorion | ~kergoth |
| 07:40.04 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, kergoth is Chris Larson, a software engineer working for MontaVista in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM nazi, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. |
| 07:40.19 | Wobwork | It's true |
| 07:40.21 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=891 |
| 07:40.48 | Elkano | or http://www.3dsupply.de/3d/img/produkte/00002006.jpg |
| 07:41.15 | ckknight | suicide is funny: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=729 |
| 07:41.34 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=868 |
| 07:41.38 | seba | 80% are funny |
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| 07:42.16 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=765 |
| 07:42.21 | ckknight | seba: ? |
| 07:42.42 | seba | was saying 80% of those t-shirts are funny :p |
| 07:42.58 | seba | if not 90% |
| 07:43.18 | seba | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=322 hahahaha |
| 07:43.52 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=535 |
| 07:44.01 | Elkano | chaaaannnnge? |
| 07:44.08 | ckknight | seba: lol |
| 07:44.17 | ckknight | man, there are so many homeless at my school |
| 07:44.31 | seba | dont wear that one imo :p |
| 07:44.50 | ckknight | like enough where if one or two were mysteriously stabbed to death, no one would be the wiser |
| 07:45.07 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=286 |
| 07:45.14 | Wobwork | You'd just suddenly get more 'ham' at the cafeteria |
| 07:45.15 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=457 |
| 07:45.27 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=958 |
| 07:45.48 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=926 |
| 07:45.51 | ckknight | ^-- hehe |
| 07:45.59 | Wobwork | that quidditch one is wrong in so many ways =P |
| 07:46.05 | seba | lol |
| 07:46.17 | Wobwork | ckknight: There should be a severed hand in there instead =) |
| 07:46.30 | Wobwork | even though he wasn't a handpuppet |
| 07:47.12 | seba | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=365 |
| 07:47.26 | art3mis | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=702 <-- i need this for my walks through times square |
| 07:48.24 | ckknight | beaker ftw |
| 07:49.00 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4Lrl9pdAA&mode=related&search= |
| 07:49.01 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/2d57o7 |
| 07:49.32 | [Ammo] | why is thraebot spamming tinyurls? |
| 07:49.45 | ckknight | Thrae: idea: for ones that don't start with !t, make it do ^--- |
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| 07:52.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | anyone on with a knowledge of Hemlock? |
| 07:52.31 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=699 |
| 07:52.34 | RaydenUnicyclist | it won't recognize my level 2 instant poison |
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| 07:53.40 | art3mis | heh that tinyurl he linked is a younger version of stephen lynch |
| 07:53.49 | art3mis | amusing songs |
| 07:53.53 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 07:53.56 | cncfanatics | I better not click it then |
| 07:54.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | good grief |
| 07:54.34 | RaydenUnicyclist | you guys have been at the tshirts all night |
| 07:54.40 | RaydenUnicyclist | anyone use hemlock/atropine? |
| 07:54.44 | ckknight | if by all night you mean for half an hour |
| 07:54.48 | pb_ee1 | What are the wiki tags to add a paypal link to one page? |
| 07:55.19 | Punkie` | I use Hemlock, what's up? |
| 07:55.44 | RaydenUnicyclist | it doesn't recognize any poisons beyond flash powder, instant, and crippling |
| 07:55.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | doesn't see lvl 2 or mind numbing |
| 07:56.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh! |
| 07:56.31 | RaydenUnicyclist | there is an update list button |
| 07:56.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | i assumed running scan would do that |
| 07:59.44 | Punkie` | I've had it bug out if you use Sellfish, but doing a /rl then a scan/update would fix it |
| 08:01.11 | pb_ee1 | Anybody knows how to add a paypal button to the wiki? |
| 08:01.33 | ckknight | hehe: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=943 |
| 08:04.16 | pb_ee1 | Hum... ;p |
| 08:05.57 | Trisorion | ~trisorion |
| 08:06.09 | Trisorion | ~mikk |
| 08:06.10 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 08:06.32 | Trisorion | ~purl |
| 08:06.52 | Trisorion | ~cia-22 |
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| 08:11.48 | pb_ee1 | Does only Kaelten knows about Paypal buttons? I cannot restore the "Donations" page if I don't have this info unfortunately |
| 08:12.08 | ckknight | pb_ee1: I think it was done with <html> |
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| 08:12.30 | syeren | You mod Pitbull last night ckknight :P? |
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| 08:12.33 | syeren | Got an update on WAU :p |
| 08:12.34 | pb_ee1 | That's it! Thanks ;) |
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| 08:16.32 | Elkano | urgs... Donation code looks so ugly atm ^^ |
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| 08:22.41 | pb_ee1 | ;-) |
| 08:23.05 | AKX | Question: Why doesn't WAU auto-update itself? |
| 08:23.13 | AKX | (Auto-autoupdating?) |
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| 08:24.51 | pb_ee1 | Direct downloading from SSF is possible? |
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| 08:26.44 | AKX | Likely it is, but why couldn't WAU be hosted on files.wowace.com too? |
| 08:26.58 | AKX | It's hardly as large as some of the addons. |
| 08:27.33 | cryogen | it causes enoug bandwidth as it is :D |
| 08:28.31 | AKX | Ads... in my WAU? |
| 08:28.54 | theoddone33 | ooh |
| 08:29.08 | theoddone33 | just what this project needs |
| 08:29.10 | theoddone33 | pocket change |
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| 08:30.01 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: must the code of the restored pages be "very clean" wiki code? |
| 08:30.20 | ckknight | no |
| 08:30.22 | pb_ee1 | Or does something like this is accepted? http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Coding_Tips&action=edit |
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| 08:30.23 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/2nzds6 |
| 08:30.46 | pb_ee1 | does --> is || is --> *poof* |
| 08:30.51 | doktoreas | wow ace updaer 2 in java..my mac would be happy |
| 08:30.54 | N3cr0m4ncer | There are enough free webspaces out there that can be used as "Update space" for WAU :) |
| 08:31.02 | N3cr0m4ncer | Ah, wrong nick -.- |
| 08:31.38 | N3cr0m4ncer | Oh no, someone uses "my" nick^^ |
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| 08:32.08 | AKX | doktoreas, that means everyone else will be unhappy. ;P |
| 08:32.17 | AKX | wxPython would be the way to go! |
| 08:32.22 | doktoreas | AKX: no matter..it crashed as started |
| 08:32.23 | doktoreas | :D |
| 08:32.47 | doktoreas | AKX: yes, i am running WUUI and works fine on both linux/mac |
| 08:32.58 | doktoreas | of course on window |
| 08:36.34 | doktoreas | finally all my guildmates have moved to omen.. |
| 08:37.48 | Kemayo | AKY: If you want a wxPython one, try: http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/ |
| 08:38.10 | AKX | Highlights don't work if you typo the nick. ;) |
| 08:38.19 | AKX | But thanks, I'll check that out. |
| 08:38.20 | Kemayo | :P |
| 08:38.53 | Kemayo | (The gui is actually relatively primative -- I find the command line variant more suited to my needs, so I felt no real need to improve the gui.) |
| 08:41.23 | pb_ee1 | How do you redirect from one wiki page to another? (sorry for all these noob questions, but at least i'm learning something) |
| 08:41.48 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r43460 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 08:41.49 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43461 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: .Babble-Inventory-2.2: - Added remainder of deDE weapon subtype translations provided by Sleazy |
| 08:41.59 | AKX | pb_ee1, there's a button for it, that #R.. in the toolbar |
| 08:42.33 | pb_ee1 | AKX: Can't see it. |
| 08:43.05 | pb_ee1 | at least not on www.wowace.com |
| 08:43.46 | doktoreas | AKX: also this: http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 08:43.53 | doktoreas | it's the one i use on mac |
| 08:44.02 | doktoreas | works very fine, and let update also non ace addon |
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| 08:46.01 | binder | you guys think it's a bug that items and money both come instantly in the mail now? |
| 08:46.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:46.18 | Arrowmaster | was a blue post |
| 08:46.24 | doktoreas | on 2.1.3 |
| 08:46.25 | binder | on? |
| 08:46.34 | Arrowmaster | its ment to do that |
| 08:46.40 | doktoreas | money have got 1 hour of delay |
| 08:47.13 | Thelyna | uh |
| 08:47.20 | Thelyna | in-account mail is all instant |
| 08:47.21 | abyssichate | Gold sending will still be instant if both of the characters are on your account |
| 08:47.24 | Arrowmaster | money and items have a 1 hour delay, but all mail including money and items between characters on the same account are instant |
| 08:47.34 | doktoreas | yup |
| 08:47.34 | Thelyna | any cross-acount mail with either money or items will be 1hr |
| 08:47.43 | doktoreas | same account are with no delay |
| 08:47.46 | binder | wtf |
| 08:48.00 | binder | you guys got a different post than us or something |
| 08:48.05 | Srosh | sucks that #show and #showtooltip are broken =/ |
| 08:48.18 | Arrowmaster | Srosh: how so? |
| 08:48.33 | Srosh | it doesn't update the icon anymore for equipment |
| 08:48.56 | Aenslaed | Srosh: oh god, yeah. That was so annoying. I couldn't tell which trinket I had on or if the active was up |
| 08:49.00 | Srosh | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174542301&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 08:49.01 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/2cr5tf |
| 08:49.16 | Srosh | and they'll fix it in... 2.2 >< |
| 08:49.29 | Punkie` | ok ThraeBot is getting annoying now :p |
| 08:49.34 | Srosh | which is at least one and a half month away |
| 08:49.40 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r43462 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:49.40 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:49.40 | CIA-22 | - zhCN updated |
| 08:50.41 | doktoreas | lol i wonder why curse-gaming doesn't put omen in addon section... |
| 08:50.56 | Arrowmaster | omen is on curse? |
| 08:50.59 | Aenslaed | omen still isn't ready for prime time imo. |
| 08:51.03 | doktoreas | nome |
| 08:51.07 | doktoreas | *nope |
| 08:51.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah theres a reason its not on curse |
| 08:51.20 | Arrowmaster | its not released yet |
| 08:51.29 | doktoreas | ah..you are right :) |
| 08:51.44 | doktoreas | any news of any release date? |
| 08:52.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:52.53 | Arrowmaster | you wont get a release date ever, just one day it will be released |
| 08:58.00 | pb_ee1 | Hum... all sigs are fucked up when restoring pages on the wiki |
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| 09:04.30 | pb_ee1 | Ok, now I've got a problem |
| 09:04.38 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Abacus-2.0 is autogenerated |
| 09:04.53 | pb_ee1 | And I have a page named "AbacusLib" that contains the documentation of the lib |
| 09:05.04 | pb_ee1 | But it contains quite the same information than the link above |
| 09:05.14 | pb_ee1 | What should I do? Restore AbacusLib anyway? |
| 09:06.09 | [Ammo] | dunno but what about libs that are already documented |
| 09:06.50 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar-2.0 for instance nuked the old page |
| 09:06.53 | [Ammo] | that contained the full docs |
| 09:06.58 | [Ammo] | yay for silly auto-doc |
| 09:08.07 | [Ammo] | how do I get the old docs back? |
| 09:08.19 | pb_ee1 | I can restore it if you wish to |
| 09:08.39 | pb_ee1 | But it will probably be overwritten on the next generation |
| 09:08.43 | [Ammo] | well right now a lot of libs are basically fucked |
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| 09:08.49 | [Ammo] | some people spent a lot of time on documenting |
| 09:08.53 | pb_ee1 | Yup |
| 09:08.56 | [Ammo] | and overwriting that by autodoc seems senseless |
| 09:09.07 | [Ammo] | make an autodoc check in the file |
| 09:09.14 | [Ammo] | if it ain't there don't do it |
| 09:09.15 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 09:09.23 | pb_ee1 | I've got a backup of the CandyBar-2.0 page, do you want me to put it on the server so that you can copy/paste it on your HDD? |
| 09:09.31 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:09.34 | pb_ee1 | k |
| 09:09.38 | [Ammo] | I want your script not to touch my pages |
| 09:09.42 | [Ammo] | and leave the old candybar doc up |
| 09:09.45 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: looking at the edit history it doesnt look like it had documention before |
| 09:09.53 | [Ammo] | it had plenty of documentation |
| 09:10.01 | pb_ee1 | [Ammo]: I didn't touch anything to this page ^^ |
| 09:10.09 | pb_ee1 | I'm just restoring the pages since the data loss |
| 09:10.11 | [Ammo] | well there was candybar documentation on the wiki |
| 09:10.14 | [Ammo] | and there is nolonger now |
| 09:10.23 | [Ammo] | there is now the autodoc stuff |
| 09:10.25 | pb_ee1 | Yup, but that's not because of me ;) |
| 09:10.26 | Arrowmaster | and its not in the history |
| 09:10.40 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: tell that to Frizzle who wrote the docs |
| 09:10.55 | Arrowmaster | are you sure the documention got restored after the db fuckup |
| 09:11.12 | pb_ee1 | I was just asking you if you wanted a copy so that you can restore the old page by yourself, or if I should do it for you |
| 09:11.24 | pb_ee1 | Arrowmaster: documentation has been lost |
| 09:11.35 | [Ammo] | http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:tQLTuCSG4yEJ:www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar+candybar-2.0+start+wiki&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=nl&client=firefox-a |
| 09:11.49 | Arrowmaster | it is stupid that pages got overwriten |
| 09:11.58 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:Pb_ee1/Article:Restoring |
| 09:12.10 | pb_ee1 | I can do a restore for CandyBar, no worries |
| 09:12.25 | pb_ee1 | But it's a bit silly since I don't know if the page will be overwritten by the auto script |
| 09:12.28 | [Ammo] | nice, but will it be overwritten by the autodoc? |
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| 09:12.38 | [Ammo] | if so can someone shoot that autodoc thing |
| 09:12.58 | pb_ee1 | I don't know, [Ammo], that's the problem, I don't even know who developped the auto-thingy ;p |
| 09:13.01 | [Ammo] | k |
| 09:13.32 | Arrowmaster | antiarc |
| 09:14.07 | [Ammo] | I'll ask around when some people who know wake up |
| 09:14.55 | pb_ee1 | If the problem is fixed, just send me a PM or /msg on IRC if you want me to restore the old page ;-) |
| 09:15.15 | [Ammo] | well the old page is CandyBar |
| 09:15.18 | [Ammo] | and not CandyBar-2.0 |
| 09:15.20 | [Ammo] | so restore should be safe |
| 09:17.04 | pb_ee1 | Yay, Wow Shop is back: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Wow_Shop |
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| 09:22.13 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.14 | kebinusan | The amount of damage reduced will be equal to the critical chance reduction effect that resilience grants. |
| 09:22.15 | kebinusan | wow |
| 09:22.23 | kebinusan | I hate this game more every day |
| 09:22.57 | cryogen | about fucking time |
| 09:23.23 | abyssichate | like dots are the issues of warlocks |
| 09:23.27 | kebinusan | What? Its total bullshit |
| 09:23.30 | abyssichate | they should just tweak demonlogy down a bit |
| 09:23.34 | cryogen | let me guess you're a warlock |
| 09:23.40 | kebinusan | Dots cant crit and shouldnt be affected by resilience |
| 09:23.49 | Punkie` | thats exactly the problem |
| 09:23.59 | Punkie` | everyone elses damage gets mitigated |
| 09:24.03 | abyssichate | they should revise the whole mechanism of dots |
| 09:24.06 | Jaxon | The warlocks don't have any risk for their reward. |
| 09:24.07 | ilifin | link plz, kebinusan |
| 09:24.08 | abyssichate | crits get mitigated |
| 09:24.09 | cryogen | dot dot dot dot fear fear fear repeat |
| 09:24.17 | cryogen | not exactly hard |
| 09:24.21 | kebinusan | Its not though because non crit melee hits arent mitigated |
| 09:24.28 | abyssichate | exactly |
| 09:24.41 | abyssichate | while dots will be mitigated all the times they are casted |
| 09:24.42 | kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=B210AB5CF1FDB1AEC3302DBC604F0C70?topicId=174613179&sid=1 |
| 09:24.43 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/2ar9td |
| 09:24.52 | kebinusan | And guess what, you can cleanse / dispel dots |
| 09:24.54 | kebinusan | there damage gone |
| 09:25.02 | Jaxon | You can dodge melee attacks. |
| 09:25.09 | abyssichate | it is not the same thing, rofls. |
| 09:25.10 | Grum | but you need skill for that |
| 09:25.22 | Grum | and thus gear and thus gimping yourself for that ;D |
| 09:25.43 | Arrowmaster | if im doing nothing but doting you, youd have to be perty fucking stupid to die if you had a healer |
| 09:25.48 | pb_ee1 | kebinusan: thanks for your session ID ;-P |
| 09:25.58 | kebinusan | bleh :-P its early |
| 09:26.07 | abyssichate | when fighting a warlock, people suppose they are idling |
| 09:26.16 | abyssichate | 1124.11 <cryogen> dot dot dot dot fear fear fear repeat |
| 09:26.25 | pb_ee1 | No worries though, it won't let us to log in with your character ;- |
| 09:26.27 | pb_ee1 | ;) |
| 09:26.28 | abyssichate | if you stand still and do nothing, it's quite obvious you'd die |
| 09:26.36 | cncfanatics | kebinusan, mind if I spam with ur acc ? |
| 09:26.47 | kebinusan | please do |
| 09:26.52 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 09:26.53 | kebinusan | heh |
| 09:26.54 | cncfanatics | i'm bored at work, i'll get u bamed |
| 09:26.58 | cncfanatics | banned* -.- |
| 09:27.43 | Grum | they should add the ability to dots and hots to crit |
| 09:28.09 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 09:28.13 | kebinusan | I agree Grum, if they're going to be affected by resilience |
| 09:28.16 | cncfanatics | wldnt a double damage curse of agony be IMBA ? |
| 09:28.25 | Grum | oh and HoTs to be able to overheal the 'remaining ticks' .. so trees dont get above you on the healing meters! ;D |
| 09:28.39 | kebinusan | but hey this is going to make secret soul link locks even more unkillable |
| 09:28.42 | Grum | and i want 'overheal' data in the combatlogs |
| 09:28.50 | kebinusan | since dot damage is reduced by soul link, resistance, and now resiliience |
| 09:29.12 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 09:29.13 | Grum | and a [owner] attribute to every pet or totem |
| 09:29.16 | kebinusan | But frankly I was hoping this change would be part of a larger change to resilience to reduce all damage |
| 09:29.21 | Grum | and i want it now .. GEIV IT |
| 09:29.23 | Grum | O.o |
| 09:29.25 | cncfanatics | soul link + that 41 talent point pet |
| 09:29.29 | MoonWolf | kebinusan, yes bease warlocks had real problems in arena's |
| 09:29.39 | kebinusan | 5v5 much MoonWolf? |
| 09:29.43 | MoonWolf | PEOPLE WERE SWITCHING OUT SHADOW RESIST GEAR TO KILL THE WARLOCKS FIRST |
| 09:29.45 | kebinusan | w/o soul link you die in half a second |
| 09:30.03 | MoonWolf | do you know why ? |
| 09:30.13 | MoonWolf | because a live warlock is rape to your team |
| 09:30.14 | Grum | well i kinda think that you should be able to switch gear in the arena as long as your are OOC |
| 09:30.22 | kebinusan | because warlocks have no defense |
| 09:30.24 | MoonWolf | you get targeted for killing first, this tells you something. |
| 09:30.25 | kebinusan | we cant iceblock or bubble |
| 09:30.31 | Grum | aka give the arena the same game mechanics as the PvE parts :) |
| 09:30.32 | evl | omg, he used caps |
| 09:30.33 | evl | :(/ |
| 09:30.45 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:30.46 | Grum | kebinusan: you can soul-shatter! ;D |
| 09:30.47 | MoonWolf | yes, i'm imba enough to be able to do that. |
| 09:31.15 | MoonWolf | kebinusan, rogues ahve the same defense problem as warlocks, but we get shafted by resilience the worst. |
| 09:31.17 | evl | The nerf is pretty pathetic |
| 09:31.24 | evl | 10% reduction against 400 resilience |
| 09:31.26 | evl | it's not that much |
| 09:31.38 | evl | you will still burn off faces. |
| 09:31.46 | Grum | shadoompriests ftw |
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| 09:32.10 | Health | kebinusan: Get 400-500 resilience |
| 09:32.13 | Arrowmaster | except for dots dont kill people that are getting heals |
| 09:32.28 | kebinusan | I have about 350 atm and yeah w/o soul link you still die way too fast in 5v5 |
| 09:32.48 | Arrowmaster | i have 20 resilience and cant get a 5v5 team =( |
| 09:32.51 | Grum | kebinusan: try playing holy priest - you have a giant crosshair all over your body |
| 09:32.56 | kebinusan | I dont pvp much so Im missing some key resil pieces, but anyway I just think its pretty lame that they're adding dots tot he resilience mechanic |
| 09:33.14 | MoonWolf | face it, in a 5v5 you die the moment the opponent decides you are going to die |
| 09:33.21 | Grum | yup |
| 09:33.24 | Grum | no matter which class |
| 09:33.27 | Grum | even a bubbledin |
| 09:33.46 | MoonWolf | its all about making sure the other team looses all of their members first. |
| 09:34.03 | evl | shocking truth there MoonWolf |
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| 09:34.09 | MoonWolf | not really |
| 09:34.18 | Grum | so that's where i've gone wrong - we just killed the male characters so we could .. well ... have fun with the leftovers ^^ |
| 09:34.20 | evl | it was a bit ironic but yeah |
| 09:34.34 | evl | gib teams win because they turn it 4v5 faster than healer teams can keep up |
| 09:34.37 | Codayus | Anyone know offhand how Empowered Rejuvenation talent applies to Lifebloom ticks? :-) |
| 09:34.38 | Grum | erm .. the 'alive' leftovers O.o |
| 09:34.52 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:35.07 | cncfanatics | I won 5v5 games before with noone of us dying |
| 09:35.13 | cncfanatics | but thats with 2 healerrs |
| 09:35.19 | Health | MoonWolf: Not really. 14k hp 400-500 resilience |
| 09:35.26 | Health | and healers.. you survice |
| 09:35.29 | Health | survive |
| 09:35.42 | kebinusan | So whats next... AS it has been determined that heals are not affected by resilience each 1% of crit reduction will increase healing effects on the target? |
| 09:35.56 | poull | I got a small question, how do I change the small desribtion of my addon that is seen at files.wowace.com? :) |
| 09:36.10 | kebinusan | they should jsut get rid of that stupid stat |
| 09:36.16 | MoonWolf | change the toc |
| 09:36.23 | Jaxon | poull: it is grabbed from the .toc |
| 09:36.37 | poull | The note field? |
| 09:37.15 | cncfanatics | kebinusan, agree, but its too late now |
| 09:37.21 | cncfanatics | stats in wow are just silly :p |
| 09:37.29 | cncfanatics | defense, crit rating, spelldmg & the like suck |
| 09:37.37 | cncfanatics | agi, str & the like should be the only stats |
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| 09:40.36 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r43463 10Bartender3/Core.lua: Bartender3: create buttons in OnInit again, the issues with that shouldve been fixed along time ago |
| 09:40.54 | MoonWolf | cncfanatics, i disagree |
| 09:41.25 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r43464 10SmartRes/SmartRes.toc: SmartRes: note field updated |
| 09:42.58 | cncfanatics | MoonWolf, why ? the combat system of wow is borked imo |
| 09:44.08 | sbu | poull: mh - sometimes pressing smartres keybinding doesnt do anything (enough mana, ppl to rezz in range, not rezzed yet) |
| 09:49.02 | cncfanatics | god damn |
| 09:49.11 | cncfanatics | can someone pull the waterfall wiki doc from somewhere ? |
| 09:49.58 | cncfanatics | it ain't on gcache :( |
| 09:49.59 | Nargiddley | what do you need cncfanatics ? |
| 09:50.10 | cncfanatics | the documentation of waterfal |
| 09:50.17 | Nargiddley | what specifically |
| 09:50.47 | cncfanatics | I'm currently hardcoding a GUI, so everything pretty much, as I can't test shit |
| 09:51.33 | Nargiddley | i never got around to documenting the raw api |
| 09:51.33 | Nargiddley | so unless its running from an ace options table it wont be much help :/ |
| 09:51.57 | cncfanatics | ace options it is then |
| 09:52.05 | cncfanatics | making GUIs is such a pain :( |
| 09:52.16 | Nargiddley | if you want an example of a gui using the raw api |
| 09:52.32 | cncfanatics | think the aceoptions will do for now, way easyer to hardcore too |
| 09:52.37 | Nargiddley | I've done the bag editing gui for baggins using it |
| 09:52.39 | cncfanatics | hardcode* |
| 09:52.51 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, you're the niagaralib author ? :o |
| 09:53.06 | Nargiddley | i wrote waterfall yes |
| 09:53.14 | sbu | ckknight: mind if i add some events?c |
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| 09:53.53 | cncfanatics | oh, didn't know, big cheers for it Nargiddley :) mind answering some of my stupid questions today ? I'm sure i'll have plenty as i'm totaly not used to using it |
| 09:54.08 | Nargiddley | i'll only be around for about an hour max, but sure |
| 09:54.13 | sbu | ckknight: (aura stuff, clearcasting etc.) |
| 09:54.18 | Nargiddley | 10pm now and got work in the morning |
| 09:54.33 | cncfanatics | 12pm here, i'm at work :) |
| 09:54.55 | cncfanatics | with irc, msn & np++ on :p |
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| 10:00.22 | quased | I have a problem with cowtip and showing my rested xp - turns out zero using [RestXP]... anyone? |
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| 10:00.42 | quased | Also, is it possible to insert a carriage return somehow? |
| 10:00.47 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43465 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: better handling of disable/ re-enable. |
| 10:00.50 | Grum | <cncfanatics> can someone pull the waterfall wiki doc from somewhere ? <-- let me check |
| 10:01.55 | Grum | i have something if you want |
| 10:02.05 | Grum | how do you make a TOC in Mediawiki? |
| 10:02.26 | Grum | cncfanatics: it's wiki/Waterfall-1.0 from 20070508164923 |
| 10:02.47 | yacoob | what's ace replacement for ct_viewport? |
| 10:03.20 | [Ammo] | aperture |
| 10:03.35 | yacoob | Thank you :) |
| 10:03.49 | Grum | i think skinner also has some viewport support in it |
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| 10:06.25 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43466 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/ (. AtlasLoot_OldInstances.toc original.en.lua original.tw.lua): |
| 10:06.25 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: initial commit |
| 10:06.25 | CIA-22 | - Split off from AtlasLoot the loot tables for legacy instances as a Load on Demand module |
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| 10:08.34 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43467 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (4 files): |
| 10:08.34 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: initial commit |
| 10:08.34 | CIA-22 | - Split off from AtlasLoot the loot tables of Burning Crusade instances as a Load on Demand Module |
| 10:09.02 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: I've updated http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PitBull with correct links |
| 10:10.54 | m4dw4r10ck | Hi, is there a possibility to use an item from a script? For example a Consumeabel or a HappyFunRock... |
| 10:11.14 | pb_ee1 | . /cast <item> |
| 10:11.19 | pb_ee1 | or /use <item> |
| 10:11.24 | pb_ee1 | Type the exact name |
| 10:11.35 | m4dw4r10ck | and in a script |
| 10:11.37 | pb_ee1 | Ho, sorry, you meant from an addon, not a macro? |
| 10:11.50 | m4dw4r10ck | jep |
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| 10:12.27 | m4dw4r10ck | UseInventoryItem(invSlot) is protected....so how does for example Autobar do this? |
| 10:12.57 | pb_ee1 | well you've got some information on protected functions somehere ;p |
| 10:13.03 | kebinusan | lol http://youtube.com/watch?v=6DEcRtYLkt8 |
| 10:13.06 | pb_ee1 | s/somehere/somewhere/ |
| 10:15.07 | m4dw4r10ck | hmmm is there a possibility to call protected functions? |
| 10:16.13 | m4dw4r10ck | As of 2.0 this script can no longer be called from scripts or addons, use the "/use" command instead. |
| 10:16.16 | Grum | dont they require user interaction? |
| 10:16.17 | pb_ee1 | How do we add a messagebox in the wiki? |
| 10:16.28 | Grum | messagebox? |
| 10:16.32 | pb_ee1 | Damn i'd like to have page that lets the user know about all those things |
| 10:16.51 | pb_ee1 | Yup, like a warning, or a LOD addon, or a "not claimed" addon, ... |
| 10:17.08 | Grum | humz not sure - but the Help:Editing page is also gone with the db-clear |
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| 10:18.08 | Grum | is the TOC automaticly added? or do you need to do {{TOC}} orso? :P |
| 10:18.53 | m4dw4r10ck | or let me ask another question^^ is it possible for a script to target a player and use an item? for example a Bandage or so |
| 10:18.58 | KriLL3 | the .toc can't be automatically added... |
| 10:19.06 | abbat_w | m4dw4r10ck, yes |
| 10:19.21 | abbat_w | /use [target=player] Heavy Netherveawe Bandage |
| 10:19.31 | m4dw4r10ck | yes in a macro |
| 10:19.36 | m4dw4r10ck | but in a script? |
| 10:19.52 | KriLL3 | the .toc is more or less the index of your addon, it tells the name, author and other info about it and what files it needs, an addon is quite useless without a .toc... |
| 10:20.02 | abbat_w | what difference between macro and script? |
| 10:20.25 | m4dw4r10ck | hmm that i cannot write a addon doing this? |
| 10:20.30 | Grum | pb_ee1: i see that in the restored pages there is still a lot of html :( |
| 10:20.32 | abbat_w | addon? |
| 10:20.41 | m4dw4r10ck | mod |
| 10:20.47 | abbat_w | Why you need addon if can do it w/o? |
| 10:20.59 | Grum | m4dw4r10ck: i think you need to make it interact with a user |
| 10:21.14 | Grum | and thus having it respond to either a mouseclick or hotkey-slam |
| 10:21.19 | abbat_w | yes |
| 10:21.19 | m4dw4r10ck | yes ok the user clicks a button or so |
| 10:21.24 | Grum | yup |
| 10:21.33 | Grum | that is the way the 'protection' works afaik |
| 10:21.37 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43468 10AtlasLoot/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:21.37 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:21.37 | CIA-22 | - Original WoW and Burning Crusade instance loot table have been split off into |
| 10:21.37 | CIA-22 | their own load on demand modules, AtlasLoot_OldInstances and |
| 10:21.37 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances to give people flexibility. Both these modules have |
| 10:21.38 | CIA-22 | already been imported into the Ace SVN and should appear in the updater and on |
| 10:21.40 | CIA-22 | files.wowace.com shortly. |
| 10:21.44 | abbat_w | make a macro, bind to key and all be work ok |
| 10:22.04 | pb_ee1 | Grum: Yup, but that's the best we can do if we want the pages to be restored quickly |
| 10:22.04 | m4dw4r10ck | i dont want a macro |
| 10:22.16 | pb_ee1 | And it's not so bad for further editing |
| 10:22.21 | Grum | pb_ee1: not so bad? |
| 10:22.28 | Grum | <dt><dd> stuff is iew :) |
| 10:23.12 | pb_ee1 | ;) |
| 10:23.18 | Kirkburn | Ooh, apparently they fixed a fishing bug in the patch |
| 10:23.27 | m4dw4r10ck | i want to save some options and so on, i want to whisper a player and so on and then use the item on a player i have set in the options, so i dont think any macro can do this job. |
| 10:23.31 | Kirkburn | (where fish would bite so late you couldn't catch them) |
| 10:24.17 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43469 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/: |
| 10:24.17 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:24.17 | CIA-22 | - Set tsvn:logtemplate |
| 10:24.38 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Main page for Prat is back again ;) If you know the code for the template at the top of the page, feel free to change it |
| 10:24.49 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43470 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/: |
| 10:24.49 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 10:24.49 | CIA-22 | - Set tsvn:logtemplate |
| 10:25.15 | m4dw4r10ck | grum: how do i call a protected function? |
| 10:25.44 | Grum | i would have a clue - sorry :( |
| 10:25.53 | m4dw4r10ck | -.- |
| 10:26.04 | Grum | (not kidding - i cant code a single line of lua and not even sure i want) |
| 10:26.18 | m4dw4r10ck | :P |
| 10:26.24 | m4dw4r10ck | i am trying to learn |
| 10:26.36 | Grum | but from what i've seen (and guessimate) is that you have to inherit a 'secure template' and not 'alter it' but just 'use' it .. orso O.o |
| 10:26.37 | cncfanatics | m4dw4r10ck you dont call a protected function |
| 10:26.45 | cncfanatics | not directly at least |
| 10:27.15 | m4dw4r10ck | cncfanactics: do you know how i can use an item in my inventory? |
| 10:27.29 | m4dw4r10ck | because all the functions are protected |
| 10:28.02 | m4dw4r10ck | but there are some addons which use items (i think). so how do they do it? |
| 10:28.12 | Jaxon | Why don't you look at their code? |
| 10:28.29 | cncfanatics | m4dw4r10ck, they inherate from a secure template |
| 10:28.35 | cncfanatics | the secure template will call blizzard code when clicked |
| 10:28.42 | cncfanatics | and blizzard code CAN execute protected functions |
| 10:28.50 | cncfanatics | so the addons call it indirectly |
| 10:28.51 | m4dw4r10ck | hmm i tryed to read the code auf autobar for example^^ but i couldnt find id |
| 10:29.06 | cncfanatics | the function shouldn't appear in the code :) |
| 10:29.25 | m4dw4r10ck | hmmm |
| 10:29.28 | cncfanatics | they inheritate the actionbutton template probably |
| 10:29.36 | cncfanatics | and set up the template to use an item when the button is clicked |
| 10:29.40 | cncfanatics | but I go get dinner now |
| 10:29.48 | m4dw4r10ck | :) |
| 10:29.50 | m4dw4r10ck | thanks |
| 10:29.56 | m4dw4r10ck | i will look into it |
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| 10:39.44 | sbu | ckknight: mh - could you implement some 'enable' switch (ingame) for each event? and possibility to set defaultEnabled = true/false in CombatEvents - so you can add _all_ events you can think of to the config (e.g. crushing alert which will be disabled by default) w/o causing too much overhead in normal usage (well - with all that extra events disabled then!? :p) |
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| 10:41.34 | ravagernl | :o freaking ad in WAU |
| 10:41.56 | ilifin | ? o_o |
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| 10:43.41 | Kirkburn | Yes. Alternatively, donate. |
| 10:45.01 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r43471 10ArkInventory/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:45.01 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 10:45.01 | CIA-22 | - 2.05 |
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| 10:48.04 | evl | does any addon use AceAddon:donate() ? |
| 10:48.17 | evl | I'm curious why that isn't in a separate addon/library |
| 10:50.26 | Kirkburn | What, a donation lib? |
| 10:50.34 | evl | no AceAddon defines a lot of stuff relating to donation |
| 10:50.37 | evl | PayPal and stuff |
| 10:50.52 | evl | I'm curious why it's there tbh, since it's not documented in the Wiki or anywhere really |
| 10:50.58 | Kirkburn | It defaults to Wowace iirc |
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| 10:51.26 | Kirkburn | Oh it probably was documented before "the crash" |
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| 10:51.29 | evl | addon.donate = GetAddOnMetadata(name, "X-Donate") |
| 10:51.49 | Kirkburn | It should probably be in the changelog at least |
| 10:51.52 | evl | but you could agree, 99% of all Ace Addons would never need this feature |
| 10:51.59 | cncfanatics | Kirkburn, "the crash" :p |
| 10:52.02 | evl | infact more than 99% |
| 10:52.04 | evl | pmaybe 12 |
| 10:52.21 | Kirkburn | Except that it defaults to Wowace? |
| 10:52.28 | Kirkburn | So every addon uses it? |
| 10:53.10 | Kirkburn | Ah, nvm, that changed |
| 10:53.25 | Kirkburn | Check r42145 of Ace2 |
| 10:53.37 | Kirkburn | There's a whole bunch of stuff around that time |
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| 10:54.35 | Kirkburn | 40904/5 was the original adding of it |
| 10:56.05 | Kirkburn | More would probably use it if they knew about it tbh |
| 10:56.17 | sbu | evl: ckk's addons use X-Donate |
| 10:56.53 | sbu | sylvanaar: adds not clickable in WAU :/ |
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| 11:01.14 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 11:01.35 | abbat_w | by the way donate system won't work in some countries |
| 11:02.07 | abbat_w | i can't use PayPal from Russia for example |
| 11:02.28 | trh | does google checkout work? |
| 11:02.31 | abbat_w | but some mods make me wet in pants and i think i should donate some money to author ;) |
| 11:04.57 | sbu | *sigh* napster broken :/ |
| 11:06.08 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43472 10EQCompare/EQCompare.lua: |
| 11:06.08 | CIA-22 | EQCompare: |
| 11:06.08 | CIA-22 | - Quick update to the AtlasLoot compatibility to stop the crashes being reported on my forums |
| 11:06.48 | abbat_w | napster? |
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| 11:06.54 | abbat_w | p2p network? |
| 11:07.22 | abbat_w | i think napster dead.. |
| 11:08.01 | trh | napster is now a legal service offering so called "music flatrates" |
| 11:08.18 | trh | you can download as much music as you want, but you cant burn it and only listen as long to it as you pay the monthly fee |
| 11:08.32 | trh | and ofc only with their player |
| 11:10.36 | sbu | right |
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| 11:10.48 | sbu | and its okay for me ;p |
| 11:11.03 | sbu | just listening to that stuff, no need to burn/whatever :) |
| 11:11.25 | sbu | and their database is pretty large ;p |
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| 11:12.33 | sbu | there is only one reason for me to burn stuff on cd - car mp3 player :o and since i have line-in cable now to connect my mp3 player - no problems at all :p |
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| 11:19.47 | cncfanatics | sbu, it uses DRM |
| 11:19.52 | cncfanatics | and DRM is something I totaly despise :p |
| 11:20.10 | cncfanatics | I dont like the idea of someone remotely shutting down my stuff |
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| 11:26.20 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 11:26.20 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:36.04 | sbu | cncfanatics: well you play wow? :P |
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| 12:20.38 | Grum | cncfanatics: were you still looking for the Waterfall wiki page? |
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| 12:20.50 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 12:20.50 | CIA-22 | - Fixed multiple issues with the melee module |
| 12:21.24 | Grum | ooe melee module .. sweet :) |
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| 12:23.17 | Grum | hmm does anyone know the name of the addon which shows the icon of an item next to the tooltip when you click on a link? (or is that default blizz behaviour by now?) |
| 12:24.50 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: ping! |
| 12:28.23 | yacoob | cozy, isn't it? I always knew that fanatics burn well. |
| 12:28.30 | Grum | +4 SPI :P |
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| 12:29.20 | Grum | 'You gain Cozy Fire' ... |
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| 12:39.09 | dodgizzla | Grum: I think it was called IDCard |
| 12:39.37 | Grum | i do have an addon doing it but there is no way checking which one it is of the ~160 dirs orso O.o |
| 12:40.04 | Grum | lets check IDCard out :) |
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| 12:44.28 | Gagorian | I'd need an opinion. Should I remove the count text (like how many casts with current soulshards) from buttons with DrDamage text? |
| 12:44.41 | Gagorian | Does anyone even use that info? :O |
| 12:44.58 | sbu | hm yes i do |
| 12:45.21 | sbu | priest reagents and soul shards - no need to count your candles, just look at your buff button |
| 12:45.22 | cncfanatics | Gagorian ! hello ! :p |
| 12:45.38 | Grum | ha! it finally burned him |
| 12:45.48 | Grum | cncfanatics - you still want that Waterfall wiki thingie? |
| 12:45.51 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Is it you who did some paladin theorycraft on EJ forums? |
| 12:46.00 | Gagorian | Just saw your webpage being used |
| 12:46.37 | Gagorian | sbu: Well, this would only affect abilities like soul fire cause they have text |
| 12:46.42 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, yes that was me |
| 12:46.47 | sbu | Gagorian: hm |
| 12:46.56 | sbu | i think its okay then :p |
| 12:46.57 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, what u think of it btw ? :p |
| 12:47.14 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Can't remember! I looked through several threads ;) |
| 12:47.23 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 12:47.27 | cncfanatics | please go bump it then ^ |
| 12:47.33 | Gagorian | I've added melee seals etc to DrDamage, so if you'd want to check |
| 12:47.38 | Gagorian | I have no way of testing it |
| 12:47.42 | cncfanatics | sure I will, i'm at work atm though |
| 12:47.47 | cncfanatics | with melee seals u mean blood & command ? |
| 12:47.56 | Gagorian | yar |
| 12:48.03 | Gagorian | also added seal of righteousness, seal of vengeance |
| 12:48.06 | cncfanatics | tell me ur calculation and i can tell u if its correct |
| 12:48.13 | cncfanatics | what formula u used for SoR ? |
| 12:48.20 | cncfanatics | SoV is easy but SoR is a PAIN |
| 12:48.26 | Gagorian | The one generally available |
| 12:48.40 | abbat_w | http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/7/11/f_WoWScrnShotm_1fb11d7.jpg |
| 12:48.40 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/yv7lak |
| 12:48.44 | Gagorian | It was a 1-2 damage off on my level 4 pally so I don't know but it's the one generally posted |
| 12:48.44 | abbat_w | my ui |
| 12:48.50 | abbat_w | :) |
| 12:48.55 | cncfanatics | Gagorian |
| 12:49.00 | cncfanatics | I supose its this one :o |
| 12:49.08 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.16 | Gagorian | Yes, that's what I use |
| 12:49.24 | cncfanatics | that should be the one, with the multiplicator depending on rank (2610.43 is the rank 9 one) |
| 12:49.47 | cncfanatics | how do u calculate exact damage then ? |
| 12:49.50 | cncfanatics | the average of the two ? |
| 12:50.06 | cncfanatics | never figured how to get the exact swing value |
| 12:50.12 | Gagorian | well, I give the range |
| 12:50.22 | Gagorian | And use the average for DPS/DPM etc calculations |
| 12:50.46 | Gagorian | Then I also did the judgement thing we talked about |
| 12:50.55 | Gagorian | So, the judgement button will have the damage for the seal active |
| 12:51.04 | cncfanatics | cheers :) |
| 12:51.12 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, the average aint correct btw |
| 12:51.18 | cncfanatics | I never figured what to use for correct value though |
| 12:51.33 | Boubouille | WTB Web developer ! k thx ! |
| 12:51.42 | Boubouille | now if you excuse me, I'll get back to crying |
| 12:51.45 | cncfanatics | about seal of blood, what formula u using ? same for SoC, i'll control them if you want |
| 12:52.02 | sbu | hmmm |
| 12:52.04 | sbu | Hunter pets are now immune to Spout on Lurker. |
| 12:52.12 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Just weapondamage * 0.35 |
| 12:52.16 | sbu | BM seems to be very interesting :p |
| 12:52.41 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: As in min = min/mod - (baseAP / 14) * spd + (AP / 14) * normM |
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| 12:53.01 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Times 0.35. Same for max |
| 12:53.30 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, dont forget sanctity aura if its used, etc. and the fact its unaffected by armor |
| 12:53.42 | Gagorian | Yes, sanctity aura should be in |
| 12:54.12 | cncfanatics | also for SoR, ur using rank-dependant multiplicators ? if u use the max one for all ranks it'll be off |
| 12:54.49 | Gagorian | Yeah, one for each rank |
| 12:54.53 | cncfanatics | k |
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| 12:55.13 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: you'll be off |
| 12:55.20 | Josh_Borke | purl, comfort Boubouille |
| 12:55.30 | purl | There, there, Boubouille. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 12:55.35 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke, I know you'll always be off, as the average of top & min aint correct, but ur not too much off |
| 12:55.48 | cncfanatics | giev the real formula used by blizzard please :p |
| 12:55.58 | cncfanatics | if u want to control ur calcs for paladin related stuff, u can always get to my spreadsheet, enter stats and check if u get the same value, if not one of us is wrong :) |
| 12:57.40 | cncfanatics | also Gagorian |
| 12:57.46 | cncfanatics | did u figure the scaling up with level ? |
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| 12:58.01 | cncfanatics | at level 69 SoR will hit for less then at 70 with the exact same gear |
| 12:58.10 | cncfanatics | never figured the formula for it, I guess the multiplicator goes up |
| 12:58.27 | Grum | isn't it the same diminish as it is for other skills? |
| 12:58.36 | cncfanatics | Grum, what do you mean ? |
| 12:58.57 | Grum | well dont most dmg-skills have some kinda of dimished effect when used at another level ? |
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| 12:59.00 | Margus | ckknight: <3! |
| 12:59.10 | sbu | Margus? :o |
| 12:59.13 | cncfanatics | Grum, thats a spelldmg coefficient penalty, its another thing |
| 12:59.19 | Margus | sbu: sup? :D |
| 12:59.29 | Grum | hmm so did you hit a lvl69 as lvl69 or a 70? |
| 12:59.36 | Grum | this also makes a diff :) |
| 12:59.53 | sbu | what did ck do? :p |
| 13:00.06 | Margus | fixed the CowTip itemtooltips :D |
| 13:00.13 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Well, levelup gives AP that boosts damage? :O |
| 13:00.23 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, SoR is unnafected by AP :) |
| 13:00.29 | cncfanatics | only weapon damage matters |
| 13:00.36 | Gagorian | And weapon damage gets AP boost |
| 13:00.38 | Gagorian | :f |
| 13:00.43 | cncfanatics | I mean the weapon damage without the AP boost |
| 13:00.49 | cncfanatics | so the weapon tooltip damage |
| 13:00.59 | Gagorian | Are you sure? It will be way too low without AP effect |
| 13:01.28 | cncfanatics | I'll test out by switching some gear in & out |
| 13:01.33 | cncfanatics | when i'm at home |
| 13:01.42 | cncfanatics | i'm 99% sure more or less AP the damage will stay the same |
| 13:01.51 | cncfanatics | (i'll keep my spelldmg consistent ofc) |
| 13:02.20 | QuantumDelta | uhm |
| 13:02.34 | QuantumDelta | is there a way to actually hide all of ora2's unitframes? |
| 13:02.42 | Undine | Gagorian, i got an error from drdamage just now. |
| 13:02.50 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, ur a paladin right ? :) |
| 13:02.55 | QuantumDelta | I am indeed |
| 13:03.05 | Grum | QuantumDelta: ora2 hasn't got unitframes by default next to the MT frames which you can hide in it's options |
| 13:03.05 | cncfanatics | please confirm to me that SoR is indeed totaly unaffected by attack power |
| 13:03.11 | cncfanatics | and is only affected by tooltip weapon damage |
| 13:03.26 | QuantumDelta | I can't actually *find* that option though Grum ;) |
| 13:03.35 | Grum | MT frames -> show orso? :P |
| 13:03.35 | Gagorian | Undine: Give error! |
| 13:03.47 | QuantumDelta | SoR is totally uneffected by AP |
| 13:03.57 | QuantumDelta | It's *only* effected by Weapon Speed and Spell Damage |
| 13:04.02 | Grum | use fubar+deucecommander .. it's a need for ace2 addons ^^ |
| 13:04.08 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, weapon damage too actualy |
| 13:04.11 | QuantumDelta | (and damage modifiers) |
| 13:04.28 | Gagorian | Lies! |
| 13:04.30 | cncfanatics | try using it with a 2.00 speed gray sword at 10 dps, and a same speed weapon at 50 dps |
| 13:04.33 | QuantumDelta | cncfanatics; you can test whether your theory is true by comparing a weapon of equal speed to a mining pick. |
| 13:04.34 | cncfanatics | u'll notice the difference |
| 13:04.42 | Undine | Gagorian, line 331 mhType null |
| 13:04.52 | Undine | Gagorian, in Melee |
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| 13:05.19 | Grum | how many hits do you have to do to get a 'good' avg-hit? :) |
| 13:05.21 | QuantumDelta | Grum; there really is no 'show' option ;) |
| 13:05.26 | Gagorian | Undine: Update |
| 13:05.42 | Grum | QuantumDelta: strange - i am quite sure i saw it once - let me look in the source :) |
| 13:05.46 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, the formula is (or should be) [0.85 * (2610.43 * MWS / 100) + 0.03 * (MW + mw) / 2] to [1.2 * (2610.43 * MWS / 100) + 0.03 * (MW + mw) / 2] |
| 13:06.04 | cncfanatics | so it should be (very minimaly, with a damn 0.03 multiplicator lol) be affected by average weapon damage |
| 13:06.34 | Undine | just can't keep up to date quick enough ;) |
| 13:07.24 | Wobin_ | math is hard |
| 13:07.33 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: If it's unaffected by AP then that formula is way, way off at level 4 ;) |
| 13:07.35 | QuantumDelta | I don't have any similar speed low level weapons at hand cncfanatics :P |
| 13:08.12 | QuantumDelta | but honestly |
| 13:08.20 | QuantumDelta | you're the first person to tell me it's effected by weapon dmg ^^ |
| 13:08.24 | cncfanatics | well |
| 13:08.37 | cncfanatics | a 50 dps difference would yield an amazing 1.5 extra dmg per swing |
| 13:08.39 | Gagorian | QuantumDelta: Well, it's certain that it's affected by weapon dmg |
| 13:08.40 | cncfanatics | barely noticable at all |
| 13:08.58 | cncfanatics | but it IS affected, now i'm wondering if AP affects it too or not |
| 13:09.41 | QuantumDelta | AP is stupidly easy to test |
| 13:09.52 | QuantumDelta | Go get a 3.8 speed 2h |
| 13:10.00 | QuantumDelta | and swap BoM on and off |
| 13:10.01 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 13:10.04 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 13:10.09 | cncfanatics | could you do that ? (a) |
| 13:10.12 | cncfanatics | I'm at work |
| 13:10.23 | QuantumDelta | ..I hate you for making a Prot Paladin do this |
| 13:10.31 | cncfanatics | I'm a prot pala too :( |
| 13:10.39 | cncfanatics | Evolve, level 70 protadin on khadgar :p |
| 13:10.45 | cncfanatics | also, could you possibly try with a very low (gray) & very high dps weapon with the same speed ? |
| 13:11.10 | QuantumDelta | Quaint |
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| 13:11.34 | Josh_Borke | !char eu khadgar evolve |
| 13:11.37 | ThraeBot | Josh_Borke: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 12047 HP; 4548 Mana; 14863 Armour; +5.09% melee crit; +15 spell crit rating; 234 +spell dmg/heal; +313 defense; 19.36% dodge; 21.1% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27evs8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sm7vw ]] |
| 13:11.47 | QuantumDelta | Stormherald + 692 AP on a level 63 Ironspine Chomper |
| 13:11.49 | Josh_Borke | man what a n00b |
| 13:11.59 | sbu | hm? :o |
| 13:12.05 | QuantumDelta | 151 SoR |
| 13:12.07 | QuantumDelta | + BoM |
| 13:12.11 | QuantumDelta | 152.5 |
| 13:12.13 | QuantumDelta | SoR |
| 13:12.19 | cncfanatics | affected ? :o |
| 13:12.46 | QuantumDelta | Quite |
| 13:12.47 | QuantumDelta | though |
| 13:12.51 | Grum | QuantumDelta: i see a 'showmt = true,' but no real option to toggle it as of now O.o |
| 13:13.11 | QuantumDelta | I would surmise that's weapon damage difference not AP difference |
| 13:13.20 | QuantumDelta | Thanks Grum |
| 13:13.23 | Grum | maybe just set the nr of tanks shown to 0? :) |
| 13:13.25 | QuantumDelta | I thought I was going nuts :< |
| 13:13.30 | QuantumDelta | err |
| 13:13.34 | Grum | seems to be a valid option (really :P) |
| 13:13.42 | Grum | set = "SetNrMaintanks", |
| 13:13.42 | Grum | min = 0, max = 10, step = 1, |
| 13:13.47 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, u were using stormherald on both didnt u ? -.- |
| 13:13.55 | QuantumDelta | That doesn't help when I want MTs to show on Pitbull and am a raid leader so need to set it up :< |
| 13:14.00 | QuantumDelta | Yes cncfanatics. |
| 13:14.10 | cncfanatics | so then it seems to be minimaly affected by AP |
| 13:14.15 | cncfanatics | how much AP ur Bom gives u atm ? |
| 13:14.16 | Grum | humz but that is not really related right? |
| 13:14.21 | cncfanatics | i'll calculate the amount |
| 13:14.31 | Grum | having oRA2 showing or not showing doesnt stop it from registering them |
| 13:14.45 | QuantumDelta | 220 |
| 13:15.02 | QuantumDelta | err |
| 13:15.06 | cncfanatics | so thats 59 weapon dmg |
| 13:15.09 | QuantumDelta | let me tinker Grum |
| 13:15.20 | cncfanatics | 1.77 extra , matches ur 1.5 aprox |
| 13:17.50 | Grum | QuantumDelta: at least i hope it works like that |
| 13:17.52 | Grum | but it would be silly if it wouldn't :) |
| 13:18.09 | QuantumDelta | Hmm |
| 13:18.13 | QuantumDelta | It seems to |
| 13:18.23 | cncfanatics | Hmmm, i'll need to have my spreadsheet on EJ use AP for SoR too then |
| 13:18.28 | QuantumDelta | Thank you kindly for the tip Grum ;) |
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| 13:18.30 | CIA-22 | FuBar_WarriorAlertFu: 1.0.1: |
| 13:18.30 | CIA-22 | * Fixed problems with AceConsole changes, solved a few other issues. |
| 13:18.30 | CIA-22 | * Added missing locals file. |
| 13:18.34 | Grum | well i'm not (yet) a lua-hero but it seems to be case |
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| 13:19.01 | Grum | QuantumDelta: yw ;) |
| 13:19.04 | QuantumDelta | well the fact that AP changes the weapon damage cncfanatics is as far as the formula goes ;) |
| 13:19.09 | QuantumDelta | It's not so much that AP effects it |
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| 13:19.17 | QuantumDelta | but that AP effects WD instead |
| 13:19.18 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 13:19.31 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, I'm using raw weapon damage without AP calculated in atm for SoR |
| 13:19.37 | Grum | would be nice if blizz would publish the formulas used ^^ |
| 13:19.42 | QuantumDelta | that's all you should use :P |
| 13:19.51 | cncfanatics | well, seems AP does count, so i'll use it :) |
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| 13:20.55 | Grum | are all these spreadsheets actually converted for use with Threat? :) |
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| 13:21.03 | Grum | or DrDamage :) |
| 13:21.17 | cncfanatics | Grum, what do you mean ? :o |
| 13:21.51 | Grum | well you are making up all kinds of formulas that could ofc also be used by DrDamage or Threat :) |
| 13:21.59 | Grum | (-1.0 even) |
| 13:22.08 | cncfanatics | why would Threat-1.0 use formulas ? |
| 13:22.15 | cncfanatics | just gets damage from combatlog |
| 13:22.19 | Grum | hmm true |
| 13:22.20 | cncfanatics | no need to calculate how much dmg it does |
| 13:22.36 | cncfanatics | true for DrDamage though |
| 13:22.37 | Grum | humz so basicly it's broken on HoTs? because they cant overheal |
| 13:22.45 | Grum | or .. they can on an active tick |
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| 13:22.55 | Grum | stupid 'overhealing' :P |
| 13:23.18 | Josh_Borke | why does overheal matter? |
| 13:23.31 | cncfanatics | Gagorian |
| 13:23.45 | cncfanatics | could you do me a small service ? :p can u check out the paladin spreadsheet and check if the numbers match yours ? |
| 13:23.53 | Grum | well it does matter if you know what the effective healing was |
| 13:24.06 | Grum | but unless you exactly know the overhealing you cant get that number :) |
| 13:24.42 | cncfanatics | HoTs dont overheal so u know exactly what the effective healing was, but not the time the HoTs didnt tick (overhealing kinda) I think ? (i'm not HoT specialist) |
| 13:25.12 | Grum | well you have like 700, 700, 700, 700, 700 in a hot - but the target had 1000 hp missing |
| 13:25.20 | doktoreas | is there a way in grid to see the value of incoming heal? |
| 13:25.30 | Grum | than the overheal you can see is 700, 300 (+400), nil, nil, nil |
| 13:25.39 | Grum | doktoreas: nope |
| 13:26.00 | Grum | not unless other people are using addons or you are doing heavy heuristics |
| 13:26.05 | doktoreas | ok thx |
| 13:26.14 | doktoreas | i just switched to it from healbot |
| 13:26.19 | Grum | but in fact you have overheald 400+700+700+700 .. O.o |
| 13:26.32 | doktoreas | i noticed that prayer of mending buff is not there... |
| 13:26.35 | doktoreas | can i add custom? |
| 13:26.42 | Grum | yeah |
| 13:26.50 | Grum | oh that is a useful one, i should do that too :) |
| 13:27.45 | doktoreas | :) |
| 13:27.57 | cncfanatics | Grum, in theorie |
| 13:28.03 | cncfanatics | if the healer had swstats or similar |
| 13:28.15 | cncfanatics | swstats could calculate the value that the HoT should have healed, check vs the actual value it healed ? |
| 13:28.21 | cncfanatics | then substract both for overhealing ? |
| 13:28.29 | Grum | basicly - the most important is not 'overhealing' but 'mana wasted by overhealing' tbh :) |
| 13:28.35 | cncfanatics | true |
| 13:28.45 | Grum | well the problem is that wow doesnt return combatlog events for the remaining ticks |
| 13:28.57 | Grum | so in my case you would see only 2 hot-ticks |
| 13:29.07 | cncfanatics | Grum, if you have the HoT application time you can know when it should have ticked |
| 13:29.13 | nevcairiel | WWS somehow manages to track overhealing of HoTs |
| 13:29.13 | cncfanatics | if it didn't, u can just assume it overhealed |
| 13:29.17 | nevcairiel | and it only has the combatlog |
| 13:29.36 | cncfanatics | probably does it as I just said, uses the HoT application time and then it checks if the HoT actualy ticks when it should |
| 13:30.00 | Grum | i tihnk you do get a 'You gain XXX's Renew' |
| 13:30.16 | Grum | but hot-ticks can get longer by talents etc |
| 13:30.21 | Grum | so then you still know shit |
| 13:30.37 | nevcairiel | I had 16% overheal with rejuvenation last night, that cannot be all just half-ticks .. so yeah it will prolly get the time |
| 13:30.52 | nevcairiel | nah there are not that many ways to increase hot length |
| 13:30.55 | Grum | no, that are only half-ticks |
| 13:30.56 | nevcairiel | only some set bonus |
| 13:31.04 | cncfanatics | thats neglectable imo |
| 13:31.10 | cncfanatics | if not, look up the armory :p |
| 13:31.21 | nevcairiel | i prolly wont have 16% overheal just with half-ticks |
| 13:31.23 | nevcairiel | thats too much :OP |
| 13:31.28 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 13:31.40 | cncfanatics | thats as much as direct heals on good healers nearly :o |
| 13:31.40 | Grum | not really, where were you? |
| 13:31.47 | nevcairiel | Grum: kaelthas |
| 13:31.54 | Grum | right i have no idea how that fights goes |
| 13:32.02 | Grum | is there a lot of small deficits that your hots fill? |
| 13:32.08 | Grum | if so - you can get 16% easily |
| 13:32.16 | nevcairiel | actually i heal a warlock tank alone |
| 13:32.26 | cncfanatics | u cant get 16% on HoTs with a tank |
| 13:32.29 | nevcairiel | the heals pretty much hit all the time |
| 13:32.32 | cncfanatics | not at all |
| 13:32.42 | nevcairiel | except i just filled him with a big one |
| 13:32.54 | cncfanatics | well, he'll prolly be at 100% then and it wont tick at all |
| 13:32.58 | Grum | cncfanatics: you can, just see a 2k deficit, 1,6k heal and then your hot ticks .. voila ..50% |
| 13:33.08 | cncfanatics | true true |
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| 13:34.06 | Grum | anyhow, i wish blizz would implement x (+y) notation for every healing tick |
| 13:34.21 | cncfanatics | agred |
| 13:34.24 | cncfanatics | ee* |
| 13:34.41 | Grum | and also a (owner) tag in the combatlog for stuff like totems, pets, sw:pain O.o |
| 13:34.51 | cncfanatics | swp has no owner tag ? |
| 13:34.54 | Grum | nope |
| 13:34.56 | cncfanatics | dont all dots have ? |
| 13:35.02 | Grum | erm |
| 13:35.02 | nevcairiel | generally dots do yea |
| 13:35.02 | Grum | sorry |
| 13:35.04 | Grum | sw:death |
| 13:35.05 | cncfanatics | xxx's swp hits blabla for blabla |
| 13:35.17 | cncfanatics | how does swd work ? |
| 13:35.26 | cncfanatics | thought it was just another DD spell that hurts urself if u dont kill with it |
| 13:35.29 | Grum | yeah |
| 13:35.30 | nevcairiel | it damages the enemy and yourself for the same dmg |
| 13:35.31 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43483 10DrDamage/ (Data/Paladin.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 13:35.31 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 13:35.31 | CIA-22 | - Fixed an error that might happen due to item scanning before they're available on login |
| 13:35.37 | Grum | but when you hurt yourself you cant see 'who' was casting it |
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| 13:35.44 | Grum | humz |
| 13:35.45 | cncfanatics | how silly |
| 13:35.47 | sbu | right, and the dmg dealt to yourself is "hit by SW: D" |
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| 13:35.55 | Trancer | SW:D damage taken is seen as it comes from a mob |
| 13:36.02 | Grum | yup |
| 13:36.03 | Trancer | named Shadow Word: Death |
| 13:36.15 | Grum | well better parsing can fix that tbh |
| 13:36.15 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Give the spreadsheet link pls |
| 13:36.18 | nevcairiel | i always filter that mobs in WWS :P |
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| 13:36.27 | Grum | i just put it in to be complete |
| 13:36.28 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/Palathreat.xls Gagorian |
| 13:36.30 | Grum | dont really care ;) |
| 13:36.33 | Grum | ey Liandra ^^ |
| 13:36.38 | Liandra | crikey, lots of people here :) |
| 13:36.42 | cncfanatics | ignore the slightly incorrect SoR for now, it doesnt calculate AP in yet, i'll fix that when at home, Gagorian |
| 13:36.49 | Grum | yeah i was also scared ;D |
| 13:36.55 | cncfanatics | (shouldnt be more then 2-3 damage off at lvl 70) |
| 13:37.05 | cncfanatics | Liandra, most dont talk ^^ |
| 13:37.16 | Grum | cncfanatics: so how is the palathreat compared to a warrior/druid? |
| 13:37.38 | cncfanatics | Grum, the same except it has a bigger frontload and dsnt need time to build up |
| 13:37.39 | Trancer | AoE |
| 13:37.45 | cncfanatics | (talking single target here) |
| 13:37.49 | cncfanatics | AoE its waaaaaaaaay better |
| 13:37.52 | Grum | 'frontload' ? |
| 13:37.53 | Liandra | i was lured here by trancer, our resident warlock aggro magnet dps whore :) |
| 13:38.01 | Trancer | ^^ |
| 13:38.09 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Is SoV coefficient added to every stack or only the first? |
| 13:38.15 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, every stack, as it should be |
| 13:38.16 | QuantumDelta | only the first |
| 13:38.20 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 13:38.21 | QuantumDelta | nope |
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| 13:38.28 | QuantumDelta | they made it every stack on the ptr at one point |
| 13:38.38 | QuantumDelta | and it was ticking for ..... a lot. |
| 13:38.46 | cncfanatics | so the first stack has 120*extra dmg*multiplicators like sanctity etc |
| 13:38.51 | cncfanatics | and the other stacks are unaffected by everything ? |
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| 13:39.03 | QuantumDelta | that's my understanding of it's current model |
| 13:39.10 | cncfanatics | I cant test it unfortunatly |
| 13:39.11 | cncfanatics | as i'm horde |
| 13:39.24 | cncfanatics | would be pretty sucky for santity though |
| 13:39.27 | cncfanatics | for spelldmg it dsnt matter |
| 13:39.28 | QuantumDelta | Judgement of Vengeance is seperate from that |
| 13:39.31 | doktoreas | wow click2cast and grid is a killing combo :D |
| 13:39.34 | cncfanatics | but, sanctity for example would add total 12 damage |
| 13:39.43 | cncfanatics | should add much more logicaly, |
| 13:39.52 | Grum | doktoreas: i'm using clique - how is click2cast for configurability? |
| 13:39.53 | Liandra | btw, does anyone know of an addon which can make a transparent, rather large (300x40 px or so), unclickable Rage Bar in the middle of my screen? |
| 13:39.55 | cncfanatics | procentual bonusses should add over all stacks prolly |
| 13:39.59 | QuantumDelta | sadly not (in terms of the SoV ticks) |
| 13:40.15 | Grum | Liandra: cant Pitbull do that for you? |
| 13:40.23 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, would you mind testing how much 5 stacks of SoV hit when all stacks were applied with wings and without wings ? |
| 13:40.35 | Grum | or ripe of any of the rogue addons and make it display rage ^^ |
| 13:40.38 | Grum | *rip |
| 13:40.47 | ben | Rage ticks D: |
| 13:40.47 | QuantumDelta | err |
| 13:40.48 | Liandra | i'm not sure if pitbull can create custom frames/bars, and if it can, if it can be "click transparent" |
| 13:41.02 | Grum | prolly not transparant |
| 13:41.10 | QuantumDelta | SoV doesn't reliably get stacked within 20 sec :P |
| 13:41.10 | Grum | but nothing of your UI can be i think |
| 13:41.14 | cncfanatics | with click transparent I think he means clickable through |
| 13:41.19 | QuantumDelta | I'll test it later anyway |
| 13:41.24 | cncfanatics | ok ty Quantum :) |
| 13:41.30 | QuantumDelta | QD is fine ;) |
| 13:41.35 | cncfanatics | k k :) |
| 13:41.42 | doktoreas | Grum, a lot fast.. |
| 13:41.42 | QuantumDelta | for now |
| 13:41.46 | QuantumDelta | afkishness :x |
| 13:41.47 | cncfanatics | see u post on forums often enough ^^ Evolve here if u remember my now (u prolly dont :p) |
| 13:41.58 | doktoreas | i did a 3 mouse button + alt,shitd and ctrl in 5 min |
| 13:41.59 | cncfanatics | my now = my name or me now |
| 13:41.59 | Grum | doktoreas: also modifiers/macros etc? |
| 13:42.00 | QuantumDelta | I've seen Evolve post a few times :P |
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| 13:42.07 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 13:42.10 | QuantumDelta | \o |
| 13:42.19 | doktoreas | yes, you can select what assign to each key |
| 13:42.19 | cncfanatics | I should post more often |
| 13:42.24 | cncfanatics | but got nothing to add usualy to threads |
| 13:42.25 | QuantumDelta | *improved vanishes* |
| 13:42.26 | QuantumDelta | yes you should |
| 13:42.40 | Liandra | cncfanatics: yes, both visibly transparent and click-through transparent |
| 13:42.47 | Gagorian | QD: You have Vengeance? |
| 13:42.57 | cncfanatics | Liandra, I dont know any addons that do that unfortunatly |
| 13:43.16 | Liandra | cncfanatics: there was one called "Combat Monitor" in 1.x, but that hasn't been upgraded to 2.x afaik |
| 13:43.18 | Grum | i cant think of anything which is 'click-through' |
| 13:43.48 | Liandra | Grum: cooldownmonitor or oCD, click-through bars/buttons afaik |
| 13:43.51 | charon_ | Grum: HUDs are |
| 13:43.56 | Liandra | and huds indeed |
| 13:43.58 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: You scale in AP to SoB? |
| 13:44.09 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, yea, I use weapon damage modified by AP |
| 13:44.14 | cncfanatics | does it match ur numbers ? |
| 13:44.16 | Grum | hard to start coding something like this from scratch ^^ |
| 13:44.27 | cncfanatics | (if not I might have forgotten it, lemme check) |
| 13:44.38 | Liandra | especially if you don't speak lua |
| 13:44.45 | Grum | lua is like .. evil |
| 13:44.48 | Grum | sortof :) |
| 13:44.52 | cncfanatics | btw, who's the author of recount ? I'd have a feature request |
| 13:45.00 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Well, I can't make DrDamage calculate with any other values than current stat values atm |
| 13:45.04 | Gagorian | And I'm level 4 |
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| 13:45.14 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, enter ur lvl 4 values then ? |
| 13:45.25 | cncfanatics | in my sheet |
| 13:45.30 | Gagorian | Well :P |
| 13:45.34 | Gagorian | alright |
| 13:46.09 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, for SoB |
| 13:46.21 | cncfanatics | my sheet uses the average white dps and takes 35% of that as SoB dps |
| 13:46.35 | cncfanatics | and then adds modifiers |
| 13:46.55 | Gagorian | Should the same |
| 13:49.00 | cncfanatics | I'll test everything tonight |
| 13:49.05 | cncfanatics | to see if values match |
| 13:51.16 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 13:51.17 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r43484 10SwapMagic/ (SwapMagic.lua SwapMagic.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 13:51.18 | CIA-22 | SwapMagic: |
| 13:51.18 | CIA-22 | - using embeds.xml now |
| 13:51.18 | CIA-22 | - added Babble-Inventory |
| 13:51.29 | cncfanatics | at lvl 70 with my AP level, calculating it, or ignoring it matters 3 dps |
| 13:52.08 | cncfanatics | so thats really, rather, minimal |
| 13:53.49 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Umm, can your spreadsheet take into account if I use 1h or 2h weapon? |
| 13:53.57 | Gagorian | (different coefficients for SoR) |
| 13:54.22 | Punkie` | ~framexml blah.xml |
| 13:54.22 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/blah.xml |
| 13:54.34 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r43485 10ArkInventory/ (6 files): |
| 13:54.34 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 13:54.34 | CIA-22 | - minor bug fix |
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| 13:56.02 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, its a tank sheet so it assumed 1h |
| 13:56.22 | cncfanatics | u can change the used coefficent / dps at field B24 though (in the threat tab) |
| 13:57.52 | Gagorian | myeah |
| 13:58.10 | Gagorian | The numbers seem to be OK though as far as I can tell but the range is so small it's impossible to say for sure |
| 13:58.27 | cncfanatics | well, I'll test everything at home tonight |
| 13:58.33 | cncfanatics | karazhan to night so i'll have a nice WWS |
| 13:58.41 | cncfanatics | btw, who is the recount author ? |
| 13:58.46 | Gagorian | Cryect i |
| 13:58.51 | Gagorian | s/i/is/ |
| 13:58.56 | cncfanatics | I have a feature request for him :p |
| 13:59.04 | cncfanatics | Hope he got the ping |
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| 13:59.19 | cncfanatics | or i'll ask here, maybe it already in but I never found it |
| 13:59.35 | cncfanatics | is it possible instead of average damage /skill have average threat / skill ? |
| 13:59.47 | cncfanatics | as a tank thats much more usefull, and as all my spells dont have the same threat multiplier ... |
| 14:00.21 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: I really doubt it |
| 14:00.32 | Gagorian | It uses ThreatLib and it doesn't separate between threat sources |
| 14:01.28 | cncfanatics | it has the damage each skill did and the amount of times it was used |
| 14:01.33 | cncfanatics | its a simple multiplication imo |
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| 14:01.41 | cncfanatics | isnt it ? :p |
| 14:02.05 | Gagorian | Well if Recount did threat calculations it wouldn't be hard for a single skill/single class |
| 14:02.14 | Gagorian | But it just uses data from ThreatLib |
| 14:02.58 | cncfanatics | ur confusing with omen ? |
| 14:03.07 | CIA-22 | 03anaram * r43487 10GridStatusLifebloom/ (GridStatusLifebloom.lua GridStatusLifebloom.toc): GridStatusLifebloom - added initial version |
| 14:03.14 | Gagorian | Omen and Recount use the same library for threat |
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| 14:03.40 | cncfanatics | never found any threat data in recount at all |
| 14:03.44 | cncfanatics | where is it ? :p |
| 14:04.15 | Gagorian | Well, now that you mention it it might be assessment that uses threatlib ;) |
| 14:04.41 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 14:05.12 | cncfanatics | ~seen Cryect |
| 14:05.19 | purl | cryect is currently on #wowace (14h 25m 32s), last said: 'Be nice if localization stuff was built into the client >_>'. |
| 14:05.24 | cncfanatics | 14h ago :p |
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| 14:08.20 | pastamancer | one of the views in recount is threat, just keep hitting the arrow to change views and you'll find it |
| 14:08.53 | Gagorian | It's a pretty big project to add all threat multipliers/class abilities to get a threat per ability in Recount anyway. |
| 14:09.49 | Grum | is there any mod that keeps your bag open after a trade if your bag was open *before* the trade? |
| 14:09.57 | Gagorian | If it was to be handled it would be way easier to use ThreatLib for it, but again, ThreatLib just sums it all up (because per ability basis is too specific for general use) so it wont work. |
| 14:11.55 | Grum | or an addon which lets you use an item (for example a stack of 10 'mote of X') while having your bank open? |
| 14:14.03 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, aint there any way to get access to abilityspecific data too ? |
| 14:14.05 | cncfanatics | dont see why it wouldnt |
| 14:14.38 | sbu | hmm |
| 14:14.41 | cncfanatics | would be usefull imo |
| 14:15.31 | cncfanatics | btw, I'm getting home soon, did any realm get maintenance extended ? |
| 14:15.44 | Grum | cncfanatics: hack the code - add a callback .. make a callback :D |
| 14:17.02 | cncfanatics | Grum, that wouldnt do it for general use, and, though I could probably do it for threat-1.0, I dont really dare to mess with recount |
| 14:17.04 | cncfanatics | too much code |
| 14:17.30 | cncfanatics | and, ehm |
| 14:17.35 | Grum | well if you make an interface to leak data from Threat you can then poke the recount author and tell him to make it ^^ |
| 14:17.57 | Margus | haha Blizzard bugged Orc Shoulderitems xD |
| 14:18.03 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 14:18.04 | cncfanatics | actualy |
| 14:18.06 | Grum | screen? :) |
| 14:18.11 | cncfanatics | doesnt Threat-1.0 report threat multipliers ? |
| 14:18.16 | cncfanatics | I know KTM does |
| 14:18.22 | Grum | KTM stinks |
| 14:18.24 | jme | Margus: yeah everyone was complaining about it last night |
| 14:18.25 | cncfanatics | if it dsnt its a few lines of code to add that feature |
| 14:18.32 | cncfanatics | and then recount cld calculate threat easy |
| 14:18.51 | Grum | well i know that threat has access to that multiplier |
| 14:18.58 | Grum | but not sure how easily you can make it report back :) |
| 14:19.15 | Margus | I bet it's working as intended just because orc shoulders looked too cool! |
| 14:20.47 | cncfanatics | Grum, shouldnt be hard to make a function to report that tbh |
| 14:20.52 | cncfanatics | and then recount could use that |
| 14:21.11 | cncfanatics | ReportMultiplier(SpellName) would do |
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| 14:22.02 | Grum | i'm not sure if it has it on individual spells |
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| 14:22.08 | cncfanatics | it has to |
| 14:22.11 | Grum | prolly has to indeed |
| 14:22.22 | cncfanatics | for paladin for example, holy shield has a 1.30 multiplier |
| 14:22.29 | cncfanatics | holy dmg spells 1 |
| 14:22.33 | cncfanatics | and holy heals 0.5 |
| 14:22.36 | Grum | why not make a lib from it? |
| 14:22.51 | Grum | ThreatMultiplierLib in conjunction with BabbleSpell? :P |
| 14:22.57 | cncfanatics | wouldnt it be silly to have another lib do that if threat already keeps the data ? |
| 14:23.07 | cncfanatics | duplicated data wastes memory |
| 14:23.12 | Grum | well then threat cna use that one |
| 14:23.26 | cncfanatics | true |
| 14:23.39 | cncfanatics | should talk with cryect and <whoever is the threatlib author> |
| 14:24.08 | Grum | should be fairly easy, you have a base multiplier then stance, talents and gear |
| 14:24.19 | cncfanatics | yea, its not a lot of work |
| 14:24.24 | Grum | and you should only have to store the 'odd-balls' in the lib |
| 14:24.29 | Grum | and return 1 for anything which is 'default' :) |
| 14:24.41 | cncfanatics | also have to include buffs probably |
| 14:24.58 | cncfanatics | Salvation , righteous fury for example |
| 14:25.13 | cncfanatics | and there are quite a few aggro multiplying buffs/debuffs ingame |
| 14:25.15 | Grum | yeah ofc, but not sure where to put those |
| 14:25.34 | Grum | atm that is stored in Threat/Classes/*.lua orso |
| 14:25.37 | trh | uh.. was there a way to determine if a client was US or enGB in lua? |
| 14:25.47 | cncfanatics | trh, there's no difference between the two |
| 14:25.52 | cncfanatics | except the server list |
| 14:26.00 | nevcairiel | i think GetLocale() does actually return enGB |
| 14:26.00 | Grum | which you prolly cant access |
| 14:26.00 | trh | cncfanatics: :( |
| 14:26.04 | trh | nevcairiel: nope :( |
| 14:26.18 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r43488 10ArkInventory/Locale/zhTW.lua: ArkInventory: update zhTW |
| 14:26.21 | nevcairiel | hm then they changed that |
| 14:26.23 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 14:26.26 | Grum | i think you cant ever do it from lua - i remember census asking it when you first booted it |
| 14:26.27 | cncfanatics | Grum, could be made accessible :) |
| 14:26.31 | trh | is there maybe a cvar with the login server? |
| 14:26.41 | cncfanatics | doubt it |
| 14:26.47 | cncfanatics | at least I dont know any :p |
| 14:27.10 | nevcairiel | trh: /dump GetCVar("realmList") |
| 14:27.10 | Grum | is there already an auctioneer like ace2 addon? |
| 14:27.25 | nevcairiel | its eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 14:27.27 | nevcairiel | for EU |
| 14:27.30 | Grum | and us. |
| 14:27.31 | Trancer | Grum: not as powerful |
| 14:27.34 | trh | nevcairiel: thanks :) |
| 14:27.49 | Grum | and what is 'the best' item-link storing addon avail? |
| 14:28.01 | nevcairiel | ludwig |
| 14:28.02 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 14:28.16 | [Ammo] | none! |
| 14:28.17 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:28.27 | nevcairiel | luwig is not storing anything |
| 14:28.29 | Grum | i'm not picky about it - it should just harvest *everything* and make it searchable |
| 14:28.33 | nevcairiel | its just showing you what you have in your item cache |
| 14:28.37 | nevcairiel | and thats best! :) |
| 14:28.38 | [Ammo] | itemdb works fine |
| 14:28.38 | Grum | lol |
| 14:28.43 | [Ammo] | but elkano needs to fix his lib for it |
| 14:28.46 | [Ammo] | and then it'll be even better |
| 14:29.01 | Grum | nevcairiel: that is kinda nice hehe |
| 14:29.54 | Grum | ah well the biggest problem is still that stupid trade windows close your bags and such :P |
| 14:29.59 | Grum | they should not do that! evil bastards |
| 14:30.14 | cncfanatics | Grum, never noticed that with baggins |
| 14:30.20 | cncfanatics | but that might be cuz i'm used to it |
| 14:30.25 | jme | my stupid pet character sheet keeps popping open whenever i dismount |
| 14:30.27 | Grum | yeah that one is on my list to 'start using' :) |
| 14:30.44 | Grum | jme: known bug hehe but you can fix that |
| 14:30.47 | cncfanatics | me, dont use pets then ;) |
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| 14:30.55 | jme | ;P |
| 14:31.11 | cncfanatics | amg, 29 minutes and i'm gone from work |
| 14:31.16 | Grum | ;) |
| 14:31.17 | jme | you suck :( |
| 14:31.24 | jme | wtb 5pm so i can be gone from work |
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| 14:32.04 | Grum | mm is there already a 'SuperInspect' ace2 equivalent avail? :) |
| 14:32.12 | cncfanatics | 9am ->5pm is chill |
| 14:32.21 | cncfanatics | Grum, why do u want something to absolutely be ace2 ? |
| 14:32.27 | cncfanatics | SuperInspect works fine imo |
| 14:32.40 | Grum | i prefer that over nonace2 because of the ease of upgrading ;) |
| 14:32.50 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 14:32.51 | cncfanatics | WAU ftw |
| 14:32.56 | Grum | indeed |
| 14:33.10 | Grum | and generally people think a bit more about ace2 stuff and it's better maintained |
| 14:33.36 | Grum | integrates better .. well .. blablabla ;D |
| 14:34.13 | cncfanatics | better maintained ? heh |
| 14:34.20 | cncfanatics | glad u never saw FB2 then :p |
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| 14:34.25 | Grum | FB? :) |
| 14:34.31 | cncfanatics | flexbar2, i'm working on it |
| 14:34.39 | Grum | oh that one sucks ass |
| 14:34.39 | cncfanatics | its everything but well maintained :p |
| 14:34.47 | Grum | lalala =D |
| 14:35.00 | cncfanatics | Grum, how can an empty toc & an empty Core.lua file suck ? :o |
| 14:35.06 | cncfanatics | does 0 stuff for 0 memory |
| 14:35.12 | cncfanatics | ^^ |
| 14:35.18 | Grum | out of date because you forgot to update the TOC! ;D |
| 14:36.05 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43489 10beql/ (locales/localization-ru.lua options.lua): |
| 14:36.05 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 14:36.05 | CIA-22 | - Updated ruRU locale |
| 14:36.05 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Active Tracker to work when tracker is locked |
| 14:37.09 | cncfanatics | Grum, the toc file has 0 bytes of text in it |
| 14:37.12 | cncfanatics | just an empty placeholder file |
| 14:37.21 | nevcairiel | ruRU locale? is there russian wow now ? :P |
| 14:37.22 | Grum | very out of date! you made my wow crash! |
| 14:37.51 | cncfanatics | Grum, suuuuuuuuuuuuure |
| 14:37.59 | Grum | ;D |
| 14:38.10 | cncfanatics | 22 more minutes till i'm done at work |
| 14:38.11 | cncfanatics | gievvvv |
| 14:38.55 | Grum | mmm is there any addon which allows you to draw lines on your map (and minimap?) |
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| 14:39.56 | cncfanatics | Grum, there is, its called killgrum |
| 14:40.17 | Grum | can't find it! :'( |
| 14:40.24 | sbu | any1 good in psql/unix admin stuff? :o |
| 14:41.13 | Josh_Borke | boo on psql |
| 14:41.19 | Grum | just shoot sbu |
| 14:41.36 | sbu | is there a way to disable shell escape stuff? \! .... |
| 14:41.50 | Josh_Borke | put in quotes |
| 14:41.54 | sbu | i dont want to have users an root shell... but access on db |
| 14:42.14 | sbu | which requires psql as root :p |
| 14:42.19 | sbu | so i have to disable shell execution |
| 14:42.46 | cncfanatics | poor poor sbu |
| 14:43.34 | Maldivia | why are you running psql as root ? |
| 14:43.49 | Josh_Borke | that seems so very wrong |
| 14:43.58 | sbu | meh :) |
| 14:44.24 | lolinternet | [16:38] * Grum stops time. <-- http://qwerqwer1234.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mudah/mudah.swf ? |
| 14:45.01 | cncfanatics | 16 minutes = |
| 14:46.16 | Josh_Borke | sbu: why do users have to have a root shell to access the DB? |
| 14:46.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ~seen Antiarc |
| 14:46.40 | purl | antiarc <n=Antiarc@ip72-223-99-50.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 25m 7s ago, saying: 'What valid substitutions are there for macros besides %t?'. |
| 14:46.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ~seen Antiarc|Work |
| 14:46.41 | purl | antiarc|work is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 15h 50m 47s) #wowace (1d 15h 50m 47s). Has said a total of 227 messages. Is idling for 15h 7m 31s, last said: 'Nice, phirephly :)'. |
| 14:46.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
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| 14:47.05 | haste | toki wo tomare! |
| 14:47.28 | cncfanatics | 13 minutes ! |
| 14:47.31 | raider|poul | where do i find a list over all the global variabls like COPPER_PER_SILVER or how it is |
| 14:47.42 | Josh_Borke | ~framexml GlobalStrings.lua |
| 14:47.43 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 14:47.45 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/ys6w3k |
| 14:47.52 | raider|poul | tx |
| 14:47.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Soshite, toki ga ugoki desu. |
| 14:48.05 | sag_ich_nicht | WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 14:48.24 | Josh_Borke | wtf is tomare? |
| 14:48.37 | deltron | DESU DESU DESU |
| 14:48.55 | haste | Josh_Borke: stop |
| 14:49.07 | haste | http://www.beverpung.net/meep/zawarudo.avi :3 |
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| 14:50.14 | cncfanatics | 10 minutes ! |
| 14:50.23 | raider|poul | hmm, are the time played not stored local? is that a equest to the server each time a client want to know? |
| 14:50.44 | pastamancer | raider|poul: correct |
| 14:50.49 | raider|poul | oki |
| 14:51.02 | pastamancer | take a look at RestFu for an example |
| 14:51.06 | Soulless | is there a wau client for mac? |
| 14:51.30 | durcyn | Soulless: macaceupdater.sf.net |
| 14:51.31 | fate- | Soulless: you can use my cool ace updater! Tested and running on macs, java based |
| 14:51.52 | dylanm | Soulless: jwowupdater is a good cross-platform one. There's Macaceupdater but I don't think it's being actively developed and it has some weird nits in it. |
| 14:52.17 | Soulless | lol |
| 14:52.20 | cncfanatics | 8 minutes ! |
| 14:52.42 | fate- | Soulless: http://aceupdater.googlecode.com/files/aceupdater.jnlp |
| 14:52.53 | fate- | (any feedback appreciated) |
| 14:53.03 | dylanm | fate-: Haven't seen yours. I'll check it out. |
| 14:53.22 | cncfanatics | 7 minutes ! |
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| 14:53.47 | fate- | it has the basics, the thing that annoys me about all the others is 1) fugly as hell, 2) no way of seeing changelogs before downloading |
| 14:53.47 | dylanm | Uh what is he counting down |
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| 14:55.09 | dylanm | I need to get working on a native Mac client. |
| 14:55.27 | dylanm | I haven't used Cocoa in a while but I don't recall it being too hard. |
| 14:56.07 | cncfanatics | 5 minutes ! |
| 14:56.17 | cncfanatics | i'm counting down the time till I can get out of this shitty office and go home btw |
| 14:56.24 | haste | D: |
| 14:56.25 | dylanm | Ah. |
| 14:56.26 | fate- | heh |
| 14:56.27 | Grum | fate-: that updater handles also those .wau files? |
| 14:56.31 | fate- | Grum: no |
| 14:56.34 | cncfanatics | 4 minutes ! |
| 14:56.43 | fate- | Grum: if I can find decent docs on how those work I can add support for em |
| 14:56.52 | Grum | oh i stumbled over them on the wiki |
| 14:56.54 | Grum | let me search |
| 14:57.01 | dylanm | What do those do? |
| 14:57.03 | |Kev| | Soulless / dylanm : it depends how active you want macaceupdater to be, it's certainly not dead |
| 14:57.10 | |Kev| | I was working on it just the other night |
| 14:57.27 | dylanm | |Kev|: Ah, there you are :) Thought you'd lost interest in the game and everything relating to it. Good to hear that it's being maintained :) |
| 14:57.38 | |Kev| | I was still maintaining it while I wasn't playing |
| 14:57.51 | |Kev| | I'm playing again now though, albeit as a casual |
| 14:58.05 | Grum | fate-: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater has a description @ bottom |
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| 14:58.27 | |Kev| | my current problem is that I'm ready to release a new version, except it's stopped working on ppc |
| 14:58.34 | cncfanatics | 2 minutes omg ! |
| 14:58.39 | |Kev| | it runs just fine, but updating doesn't do anything :) |
| 14:58.45 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r43490 10ArkInventory/Locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 14:58.45 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 14:58.45 | CIA-22 | - update zhTW |
| 14:58.51 | dylanm | |Kev|: That's odd... |
| 14:58.56 | |Kev| | very |
| 14:59.01 | fate- | Grum: oh nice, I'll add support for that then |
| 14:59.02 | Grum | fate-: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater#The_Package_System even |
| 14:59.15 | |Kev| | http://www.kismith.co.uk/tmp/MacAceUpdater-0.4.dmg if you're on intel and want it though |
| 14:59.16 | Grum | it's kinda easy :) |
| 14:59.43 | fate- | so basically it allows an addon to consist of multiple addons to nupack? |
| 14:59.57 | fate- | eg, module1 and module2 would unpack into the top level Addons dir? |
| 15:00.00 | pastamancer | yup |
| 15:00.21 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r43491 10/branches/SmartQueue/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:00.21 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: initial commit on branches |
| 15:00.21 | CIA-22 | - no exterals yet |
| 15:00.31 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:00.39 | fate- | should this be a flag that users can toggle, or should the updater always respect the wua file? |
| 15:00.45 | cncfanatics | 0 seconds ! time to go home |
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| 15:00.57 | Grum | well for it to be working it needs to obey to the .wua file afaik |
| 15:00.58 | fate- | (should default be to use wua or not?) |
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| 15:01.03 | Grum | check the oRA2 package |
| 15:01.04 | fate- | k |
| 15:01.35 | Grum | but not sure what is really wanted behaviour on this subject |
| 15:01.53 | fate- | I dont do that when I update, and addons seem to work |
| 15:02.01 | fate- | whats the advantage of unpacking into top dir? |
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| 15:03.52 | pb_ee1 | oRA2 page is back from the deads |
| 15:04.36 | Arrowmaster | fate-: load on demand |
| 15:04.43 | fate- | k |
| 15:05.56 | Arrowmaster | afaik directories are either just listed in .wau files or theyre listed with an @ before them, like '@SC' in the BigWigs .wau turns into BigWigs_SC |
| 15:06.05 | fate- | yeah |
| 15:06.20 | fate- | they work in either loc though right? top level just makes them more efficient |
| 15:06.34 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 15:06.38 | fate- | gotcha |
| 15:07.00 | Arrowmaster | and if its in the main addons folder it shouldnt also be in the addon subfolder |
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| 15:07.22 | fate- | yeh |
| 15:09.15 | Grum | I'd love to make some kind of system where you can just tell it: 'give me this list of mods in a zip' .. which you could then unpack into your Addons folder |
| 15:09.52 | fate- | Grum: how's that different from an updater? |
| 15:10.05 | Grum | for an updater you need to have previous versions there |
| 15:10.12 | fate- | Grum: mine lets you install new versions |
| 15:10.22 | Grum | yes but i still need to select from a list then |
| 15:10.39 | fate- | hm, I'm missing something |
| 15:10.46 | Cryect | in your example didn't you ask for a list to install? |
| 15:10.50 | fate- | how would you pick what to install then? |
| 15:11.02 | Grum | feed it a list? :) |
| 15:11.09 | fate- | yeah but where would that list come from? |
| 15:11.24 | Cryect | uh.... so how is this different from basing the list on the current addons you have installed? |
| 15:11.25 | Grum | well i'd have it somewhere on my disk with addons i 'need' |
| 15:11.40 | fate- | surely thats a one off though? |
| 15:11.48 | fate- | once they're installed, most of the time you'd be spending doing upgrades |
| 15:11.51 | fate- | not installing fresh |
| 15:11.58 | Cryect | and if you are installing fresh |
| 15:11.59 | Grum | for example, you reinstall wow and you have nothing .. then you have a shitty time finding all the crap you need |
| 15:12.02 | Cryect | you have to add them to your list |
| 15:12.09 | fate- | Grum: yeah but that doesnt happen too often does it? |
| 15:12.24 | Cryect | The hard part of a UI is rarely finding your old addons |
| 15:12.24 | Grum | its also useful for sharing |
| 15:12.27 | fate- | I mean, a low-tech solution would be to backup your addons dir |
| 15:12.31 | Cryect | its normally reconfiguring them all at once |
| 15:12.50 | Grum | sure but a lot of crap accumulates in your Addons dir ;D |
| 15:12.57 | fate- | so delete stuff ;) |
| 15:13.03 | nevcairiel | not if you keep your house clean :p |
| 15:13.04 | Grum | which again is manual work :) |
| 15:13.05 | fate- | (which updaters also let you do) |
| 15:13.05 | Cryect | So all you want is WAU with savable lists |
| 15:13.13 | fate- | you' |
| 15:13.23 | fate- | you're just moving the work to another task |
| 15:13.28 | Grum | Cryect: hmm that would do :) |
| 15:13.31 | Cryect | seems extremely pointless |
| 15:13.32 | jme | Cryect: wtb jhasa's phoenix mount |
| 15:13.34 | Grum | why? |
| 15:13.35 | fate- | since you'd end up either with an outdated master list, or one that's full of crap too |
| 15:13.46 | Grum | i have to maintain 2 wow clients and it sucks to do manually |
| 15:13.49 | Cryect | you are asking to create something in the exact same form as another form |
| 15:13.53 | Cryect | sync them |
| 15:14.03 | Grum | right if that were easily possible |
| 15:14.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum rsync |
| 15:14.15 | Cryect | jme: haha |
| 15:14.27 | jme | Cryect: ;) |
| 15:14.32 | Grum | windows and rsync .. stop making me cry |
| 15:14.34 | fate- | aha, ok I see your problem, you want to sync across two machines |
| 15:14.41 | jme | Cryect: get me a spot in impervious if i reroll? |
| 15:14.45 | fate- | yeah I need to do that too, and it is annoying, not found a good solution |
| 15:14.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: http://rsyncwin32.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:14.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 15:15.00 | Cryect | jme: no, not that you want in :-p |
| 15:15.06 | jme | Cryect: heh |
| 15:15.08 | Cryect | jme: get horde to do some interesting stuff! |
| 15:15.15 | jme | Cryect: not happening :( |
| 15:15.19 | Cryect | jme: like horde needs to attempt world bosses |
| 15:15.30 | Cryect | jme: haven't griefed a guild on world bosses in ages |
| 15:15.35 | jme | Cryect: lol |
| 15:15.36 | Grum | fate-: well having a static list with addons would be easy |
| 15:15.51 | fate- | how do you sync that between the two machines? ;) |
| 15:15.56 | jme | Cryect: i was going to grief apex on kazzak a couple of weeks ago but they never got the chance to start |
| 15:16.16 | jme | Cryect: don't know if you remember some post about a couple of alliance that kept kiting him out and wiping their raid before it started |
| 15:16.25 | Grum | and it would be nice if you could feed it to some kind of online thingie which would just return a big zipfile with the stuff like .wau files parsed which you just need to unpack in your addons dir :) |
| 15:16.41 | fate- | yeah but how do you sync the master list across two machines? |
| 15:16.44 | Cryect | jme: haha, no I don't follow the realm forums or the realm gossip |
| 15:16.52 | Grum | you maintain the list somewhere |
| 15:16.55 | Grum | doesnt really matter where |
| 15:16.58 | fate- | mmh |
| 15:17.02 | Cryect | so maintain your addons folder somewhere? |
| 15:17.06 | Grum | mostly you make changes on one box which needs to show on another |
| 15:17.09 | jme | Cryect: i'll see if i can dig the thread up |
| 15:17.11 | Cryect | I mean if you are using windows and they are on the same network |
| 15:17.15 | Cryect | share your addons folder |
| 15:17.22 | Grum | dont make me cry again |
| 15:17.23 | sag_ich_nicht | better. |
| 15:17.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum i have a solution for you :P |
| 15:17.37 | Grum | play pong? |
| 15:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 15:17.42 | fate- | well its easy enough to modify my updater to take in a parameter that a master list of some sort |
| 15:17.46 | fate- | and install/update everything on it |
| 15:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | 1. copy your addon folder somewhere safe |
| 15:17.49 | Cryect | prolly going to say goto another os :-p |
| 15:17.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 2. create a new partition on one of the computers |
| 15:18.03 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: you are making me cry again |
| 15:18.17 | sag_ich_nicht | 3. create an NTFS link partition/folder |
| 15:18.25 | sag_ich_nicht | 4. share the partition |
| 15:18.26 | Grum | there you did it .. |
| 15:18.33 | fate- | I just find that in my case, the annoyance isnt the addons (I know what addons I want and use), its the stupid config |
| 15:18.34 | doktoreas | back.. |
| 15:18.35 | sag_ich_nicht | 5. create a network drive on the other computer |
| 15:18.45 | sag_ich_nicht | 6. create an NTFS link addonfolder/network drive |
| 15:18.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 15:18.48 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 15:18.49 | Cryect | fate-: same |
| 15:18.50 | doktoreas | grum got a sec? |
| 15:18.50 | sag_ich_nicht | just use rsync |
| 15:18.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 15:18.59 | fate- | things like adding a bongos keybinding or changing its settings |
| 15:19.01 | sag_ich_nicht | or an ftp share with auto pulling |
| 15:19.02 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 15:19.02 | fate- | total pita to sync |
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| 15:20.25 | Grum | doktoreas: a short one |
| 15:20.30 | jme | Cryect: oh well, can't find it :( |
| 15:20.31 | Grum | gotto leave kinda soonish :P |
| 15:20.43 | doktoreas | ok.. is there a way in grid the overheal you do? |
| 15:20.47 | Grum | like within 150s ;) |
| 15:20.55 | Grum | not that i know of |
| 15:21.00 | doktoreas | k thx |
| 15:21.11 | Grum | but just show deficits and you should know hwo much your heals hit for |
| 15:21.26 | Grum | -2k wont be a greater heal rk7 ;D |
| 15:21.35 | Grum | *poof* gone |
| 15:25.30 | jme | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30835 <- spiderman! |
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| 15:29.21 | doktoreas | i remembered that on the wowace forum, i saw a sort of combat log that show only number |
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| 15:29.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:21] <Grum> -2k wont be a greater heal rk7 ;D <--if you're shadow in +stamina +res gear for PvP maybe :P |
| 15:29.28 | doktoreas | with differentes color |
| 15:29.58 | Xerophyte | doktoreas: That'd be EavesDrop |
| 15:30.08 | doktoreas | bingo! |
| 15:30.17 | doktoreas | today is my lucky day for addon |
| 15:30.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:25] <jme> http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30835 <- spiderman! <--oh lawd |
| 15:30.30 | doktoreas | i found also one that show istance id of my guildmates |
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| 15:36.51 | CIA-22 | ArenaMaster: |
| 15:36.51 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
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| 15:46.36 | evl | Isn't there a way to disable Grid modules without uncommenting them from the TOC? |
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| 15:51.54 | pakoz2 | should i download WowAceUpdater-1.9.26-bin.zip or .25 |
| 15:52.20 | Cryect | umm whatever the most recent is? |
| 15:52.22 | pakoz2 | i know the answer seems obvious but when i click the download button it defaults to .25 |
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| 15:52.43 | snirks | s |
| 15:55.09 | pakoz2 | oo .26 has ads |
| 15:55.19 | Trancer | yeps, it does |
| 15:55.45 | snirks | y i saw |
| 15:56.04 | snirks | haha |
| 15:56.06 | snirks | haire |
| 15:56.08 | snirks | "here" |
| 15:56.09 | snirks | clad|here |
| 15:56.26 | cladhaire | heh |
| 15:56.28 | Antiarc|Work | The ads are there to pay for the wowace server costs |
| 15:56.37 | snirks | aye i dont object. smart move |
| 15:56.51 | snirks | rather want wau1 kept intact than wau2 without ads :/ |
| 15:57.19 | art3mis | capitalist dogs! |
| 15:57.39 | Matrix110 | If you wouldve donated more then it wouldnt need ads! |
| 15:58.01 | art3mis | if ckk would stop making huge multiple part addons.... ;) |
| 15:58.28 | snirks | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization - There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page. |
| 15:58.43 | Matrix110 | snirks read www.wowace.com frontpage text:P |
| 15:59.33 | snirks | oh bummer |
| 16:00.00 | art3mis | i still think my idea of doing an offsite free svn push of the large compilations when they get updated would be a lot better |
| 16:00.26 | art3mis | pushign it to a site once when its updated and letting them take the BW hit for actual leeching seems so much more feasible ;P |
| 16:00.37 | snirks | im sure it was just a plot to cleanse out the db and get a better wiki |
| 16:00.44 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:00.49 | jme | Cryect: how far are you guys into BT? still 3 bosses? |
| 16:01.32 | snirks | offsite backup storage should be mandatory for everything not within a families' house |
| 16:01.40 | art3mis | and adding a sorting mechanism so it groups all the "havent updated in 2 weeks" and "older than a month" would be useful too |
| 16:02.02 | snirks | im sure thats what they want to amek now |
| 16:02.03 | snirks | make* |
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| 16:06.57 | sylvanaar | art3mis - im almost shocked at the response from people with respect to the ad. WAU is (now) largely a result of my efforts, yet i dont have a problem puttting an ad in it to support the site (and i have no special status here really) |
| 16:08.08 | art3mis | sylvanaar: how so? and did you actually think im seriously taking offence and calling you all money grubbing whores? |
| 16:08.27 | sylvanaar | art3mis no,i was saying in general |
| 16:08.34 | art3mis | oh shocked how? |
| 16:08.44 | Trancer | art3mis: you still need to pay for a central server though |
| 16:09.23 | art3mis | trancer: im being a dick, of course i realize this, ive offered leech hosting for the addons for a while now but kael keeps saying no ;P |
| 16:09.50 | art3mis | the http downloads portion of it i mean |
| 16:09.57 | sylvanaar | art3mis shocked how they who had invested nothing felt that they were somehow entitled to everything they had |
| 16:09.59 | MikkZzz | fwiw, we don't want SVN mirroring |
| 16:10.15 | Mikk | files mirroring... yeah possibly |
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| 16:10.46 | art3mis | mikk: the svn mirroring idea was mainly based on where i thought the files were being pulled from in the first palce |
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| 16:11.32 | art3mis | like the WAU was a glorified, albeit limited, svn client and it still conected to the svn but only had access to a certain directory of rared releases fromthe release trees |
| 16:12.28 | Mikk | ah, no. it just works with files since pulling from SVN is incredibly resource demanding |
| 16:12.31 | art3mis | and if that was the case having it "mirror" out the larger releases like prat atlasloot cart etc, all the stuff over a meg, it would be possible to hardcode WAU to go to THAT location for these |
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| 16:12.50 | art3mis | thus reducing the over all hits |
| 16:13.05 | art3mis | that was my thinking about that anyways ;P |
| 16:13.17 | art3mis | since there are quite a fwe free "svns" |
| 16:13.39 | Trancer | Mikk: files mirroring is coming soon apparently |
| 16:13.39 | sylvanaar | right, well there already are mirrors, just not many - because theres a certain trust level that has to exist |
| 16:13.48 | Trancer | and I can build a software made load balancer for it |
| 16:13.53 | Trancer | did so before a plenty of times |
| 16:14.03 | art3mis | sylvanaar: well the mirroring downside is that while some exist they arent used because of default etc |
| 16:14.07 | Trancer | sylvanaar: introduce hashes |
| 16:14.33 | Trancer | the hashes can be distributed over DNS to save that slack as well |
| 16:14.39 | art3mis | like i know they are listed but the ability for the user to switch between them means that they are usually going for the default or the main repository |
| 16:15.15 | sbu | wtb p2p-wau :p |
| 16:15.21 | art3mis | so essentially you build into the client 3 types... larger than 1meg addons, frequently updated, old and busted |
| 16:15.40 | snirks | sylvanaar: i for one think its great |
| 16:15.47 | art3mis | that types of thing so that not ALL of it is coming from kaels servers |
| 16:15.49 | Trancer | sbu: no need/use ;-) |
| 16:15.58 | sbu | but sounds cool ;) |
| 16:15.58 | art3mis | p2p wau is an evil idea ;P |
| 16:16.02 | snirks | sylvanaar: the program still does what it does |
| 16:16.03 | sylvanaar | listen - you have no idea how much time has gone into what exists now |
| 16:16.16 | snirks | was about time someone got paid for it |
| 16:16.31 | art3mis | sylvanaar: i do have a pretty good idea about that, i just like talking out loud ;P |
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| 16:17.00 | sylvanaar | noone is getting paid - at least not me. im just happy to support the site which i have derived alot of enjoyment from |
| 16:17.07 | Xerophyte | No one is even getting paid as I understand, it's just subsidising the wowace server costs that some people've financed out of their own pockets |
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| 16:17.25 | snirks | getting paid, not going in minus, same thing |
| 16:17.27 | art3mis | why do you guys keep putting in "no-one is getting paid" ? |
| 16:17.38 | art3mis | its a moot point for what im talking about |
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| 16:17.59 | art3mis | im not even refering to ads, im fine with that |
| 16:18.11 | art3mis | hell i suggest you make a premium version without the ads ;P |
| 16:18.19 | sylvanaar | im not jumping on your case - im just talking |
| 16:18.23 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r43495 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: |
| 16:18.23 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:18.23 | CIA-22 | -update inventory zhCN local |
| 16:18.26 | art3mis | charge 5-10 a month for access or something |
| 16:18.32 | snirks | whats it called when ppl argue about something that they agree on? |
| 16:18.35 | Xerophyte | Was responding to snirks and not you, should've been clearer, sorry. Heck, I've no clue what you're talking about, in point of fact :p |
| 16:18.41 | art3mis | snirks: being retarded ;P |
| 16:18.53 | sylvanaar | im hungry - brb |
| 16:18.56 | Mikk | art3mis: being considered. problem with a straight premium version is that that version would obviously be put up for download and everyone would have it :P |
| 16:19.11 | art3mis | mikk: thats simple |
| 16:19.17 | snirks | Xerophyte: yeah maybe i shouldn't have said getting paid, but rather earning enough to keep the cost at 0 for the WAU dude |
| 16:19.29 | snirks | Xerophyte: "getting paid" saves so many more skincells tho |
| 16:19.35 | art3mis | mikk: server check auth.. you start it it "logs in" attaches to an ip |
| 16:19.45 | yacoob | hm, they cut down on item/gold mail transfers between chars on same account |
| 16:19.58 | yacoob | good, but how long did it take them, 2 years? :D |
| 16:20.09 | art3mis | if say more than 3 seperate ips use said account the dowloader goes bye bye |
| 16:20.39 | art3mis | yacoob: and added a 1hour delay for gold through the mail to piss off everyone and irritate the gold sellers ;P |
| 16:20.50 | yacoob | art3mis, 'at the same time' you mean? (ips) |
| 16:20.56 | Arrowmaster | delay didnt piss many people off at all |
| 16:21.04 | art3mis | yacoob: in total |
| 16:21.15 | yacoob | art3mis, some people are forced to go behind proxy |
| 16:21.25 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: That's a huge problem for anyone on AOL |
| 16:21.26 | yacoob | you'd kill AOLers for example. Not that I care, but... :D |
| 16:21.33 | Antiarc|Work | AOL customers switch IPs between requests. >_< |
| 16:21.35 | snirks | rofl aol behind a proxy? |
| 16:21.40 | Antiarc|Work | It's a giant pain in the ass. |
| 16:21.43 | art3mis | yacoob: nods but it can be dealt with on a per person pattern |
| 16:21.57 | yacoob | art3mis, good luck in veryfing that :D |
| 16:22.17 | art3mis | even to the point of logging in with a "subclient" |
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| 16:22.24 | snirks | WGA |
| 16:22.30 | snirks | WAU genuine advantage.exe |
| 16:22.36 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 16:23.05 | yacoob | *blink* |
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| 16:23.12 | snirks | anyone familiar with unix or linux and LVM here? |
| 16:23.24 | yacoob | 18:17 < art3mis> why do you guys keep putting in "no-one is getting laid" ? |
| 16:23.28 | yacoob | bad parser! |
| 16:23.37 | yacoob | snirks, a bit. |
| 16:23.52 | Kaelten | g'morning |
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| 16:24.12 | snirks | ok, apart from /boot, should everything else be LVM? can swap be a lvm partition? |
| 16:24.13 | yacoob | *Kaelten's entry music cues in* |
| 16:24.20 | snirks | or does swap need to be primary? |
| 16:24.38 | Pkekyo | rofl, just converted half my guild from KTM to Omen at the same time :> |
| 16:24.38 | Pkekyo | anyways: is it possible to use Ora2 instead of CTRA although the guild is using CTRA for whatever purpose, without screwing up anything? |
| 16:24.45 | snirks | yes |
| 16:24.47 | snirks | it is |
| 16:24.52 | yacoob | snirks, yup, it can. You basically need to boot from somewhere, after that it's up to you |
| 16:25.05 | snirks | yes making boot a primary |
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| 16:25.07 | yacoob | snirks, initrd + scripts takes care of that |
| 16:25.19 | yacoob | in fact, you can even boot from lvm, if you make a little trick, IIRC |
| 16:25.19 | snirks | ok |
| 16:25.22 | Pkekyo | snirks: you answering me or someone else? |
| 16:25.27 | rubik | quick instant-poll.. for karazhan only (that's what my casual guild is working on), force raid to use BigWigs or DBM? which is "better"? |
| 16:25.29 | snirks | yacoob: yeah i read, but im not tricky enough |
| 16:25.34 | snirks | Pkekyo: yes. go oRA2 |
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| 16:26.00 | _art3mis | rubik: either is fine but its a good idea for everyone to be on the same page |
| 16:26.03 | snirks | rubik: afaik doesnt matter. im a fan of bigwigs tho |
| 16:26.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian http://ace.pastey.net/70654 |
| 16:27.03 | _art3mis | i like littlewig |
| 16:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 16:27.03 | Xerophyte | Rubik: both are perfectly adequate. There are syncing benefits to everyone using the same one, but its not crucial |
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| 16:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ~seen Gagorian |
| 16:27.29 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 94 messages. Is idling for 2h 17m 32s, last said: 'If it was to be handled it would be way easier to use ThreatLib for it, but again, ThreatLib just sums it all up (because per ability basis is too specific for general use) so it wont work.'. |
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| 16:28.25 | rubik | cool, thanks.. been using bigwigs but someone said they hate it and it's not as accurate as DBM, etc.. so i was going to maybe try to run both side by side to see how much truth there is in that, etc. |
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| 16:28.25 | yacoob | snirks, besides, it's better to have hw raid that makes a big hdd, which is given to lvm for eating |
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| 16:28.25 | Pkekyo | snirks: thanks |
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| 16:28.25 | snirks | yacoob: you see im thinking of making a mini-itx as server, and use debian (since im familiar with debian) and im looking into storage options. raid_x, LVM and so on |
| 16:28.31 | vhaarr | rubik: whatever you find out, tell me the results, please. |
| 16:28.35 | snirks | found this abit mobo that has raid 0, 1 and 0+1 |
| 16:28.37 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 16:28.40 | sag_ich_nicht | did purl split? |
| 16:28.41 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 16:28.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 16:28.44 | sag_ich_nicht | bad purl |
| 16:28.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ah here |
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| 16:29.34 | yacoob | snirks, lvm howto describes raid+lvm setup, and it's mostly ok, apart from the fact that you might not get enough disks in *mini* :D |
| 16:29.35 | snirks | yacoob: its not crucial, but since my bachelor is network + security and i could make the mini-itx fairly cheap, i see it as an investment to learn more |
| 16:29.47 | fate- | ok for whoever was asking, my aceupdater at http://aceupdater.googlecode.com/files/aceupdater.jnlp now handles wau files |
| 16:29.49 | rubik | vhaarr: will do |
| 16:29.49 | snirks | yep im aware of that |
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| 16:30.15 | snirks | 2 external 3.5 bays and 2 internal 5.25 bays |
| 16:30.21 | _art3mis | yacoob: go back and read yer lvm raid info stuff only apply it to rubik talking about wow raids ;P |
| 16:30.27 | _art3mis | it makes it quite funny |
| 16:30.29 | snirks | should make for 5 hds if i buy convertion bays for the 5.25 |
| 16:30.44 | snirks | im ofc messing here |
| 16:30.48 | yacoob | _art3mis, 8) |
| 16:30.50 | snirks | it should be the other way around |
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| 16:31.43 | _art3mis | yeah i'd got hardware raid as well |
| 16:31.58 | _art3mis | mostly for the redundancy crap |
| 16:32.39 | snirks | im thinking performance VS redundancy |
| 16:32.41 | _art3mis | LVM while neat and all runs into the cross channel BS |
| 16:32.41 | sag_ich_nicht | question |
| 16:32.44 | Ixan | wth.. somebody added ads to WAU? |
| 16:32.50 | sag_ich_nicht | my fubar has a small rendering area left on the right and left |
| 16:32.51 | sag_ich_nicht | why. |
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| 16:33.05 | trh | Ixan: pay kaeltens server bills or shut up :> |
| 16:33.06 | snirks | Ixan: yes the developer did so he doesnt have to pay for whatever services he pays for to host it |
| 16:33.09 | sylvanaar | somone make ~wauads for purl |
| 16:33.17 | Ixan | understandable |
| 16:33.24 | _art3mis | having a hardware raid you've got the controller taking care of it all, while in lvm you've essentially got the software rpetending its a big drive and still prone to pauses and chokes thanks to the channel bw |
| 16:33.24 | Ixan | was just a little suprised |
| 16:33.45 | yacoob | _art3mis, thus, raid+lvm is the way to go :) |
| 16:33.55 | snirks | _art3mis: so with hw raid, though onboard, will make LVM obsolete? |
| 16:34.00 | _art3mis | on little files(less than 10megs) you're not gonna have much issue, however if you get large files like iso's and such you'll have to deal with multi drive spanning |
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| 16:34.14 | pakoz2 | Anyone here ever tank Tidewalker? |
| 16:34.15 | Ixan | a little bit like coming home at 4am and finding a marketing executive checking out your wow account for patent infrigement |
| 16:34.19 | _art3mis | nods yacoob |
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| 16:34.30 | snirks | can you have redundancy with LVM without raid? |
| 16:34.34 | yacoob | snirks, those are similar, but not exactly the same, and you can use both perfectly fine. Grab LVM HOWTO |
| 16:34.51 | Uhuru | am i only to get problems with atlasloot ? |
| 16:34.57 | yacoob | not really, if you compare LVM to RAID, it can give you only concat and stripe |
| 16:35.06 | _art3mis | snirks: ya know how you can mount network drives as lettered drives in windows? |
| 16:35.13 | _art3mis | or even as directorys? |
| 16:35.17 | sylvanaar | alright, i think i have an idea to make it a bit more tolerable |
| 16:35.18 | snirks | yeah |
| 16:35.20 | snirks | i know how it works :) |
| 16:35.23 | _art3mis | THAT is more of less what lvm does |
| 16:35.36 | _art3mis | it "pretends" its all the same drive |
| 16:35.36 | yacoob | _art3mis, *blink*? |
| 16:35.41 | _art3mis | the OS thinks its the same drive |
| 16:35.45 | snirks | yes |
| 16:35.46 | _art3mis | when in reality it isnt |
| 16:36.00 | yacoob | that's a funny way to say it :D |
| 16:36.02 | snirks | and for LVM, HD doesnt matter. they can be of different brand and different size. for some raid setups, thats not the case |
| 16:36.05 | snirks | thats what i mean |
| 16:36.06 | _art3mis | hw raid is the peformance advantage of actually being a single drive before it hits the os |
| 16:36.16 | snirks | can you have redundancy with LVM across different types of disks? |
| 16:36.23 | Ixan | gl finding a pure hw raid these days |
| 16:36.25 | _art3mis | oh we;'re way past the point of raid caring about drives ;P |
| 16:36.28 | yacoob | snirks, no. No redundancy in LVM. |
| 16:36.33 | snirks | ok thanks |
| 16:36.36 | yacoob | LVM is for easier management of volumes. |
| 16:36.44 | Ixan | most raid controllers are part sw/hw now |
| 16:37.00 | yacoob | if you want redundancy, make mirrored or parity-striped raid device, and then put lvm on top of that |
| 16:37.00 | Ixan | don't confuse LVM with raid |
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| 16:37.03 | Ixan | it's not |
| 16:37.08 | snirks | ROFL omfg. i should have been inviting people for tempest keep 10 minutes ago |
| 16:37.13 | Pkekyo | is there any Ace equivalent of TrinketMenu? |
| 16:37.14 | _art3mis | yacoob: heh yeah it didnt occurr to me that thats how lvm behaved til the other day when it spanned across my empty drive |
| 16:37.24 | Arrowmaster | which is why you use hardware raids along with lvm for true data security and flexibilty |
| 16:37.24 | Ixan | the linux kernel has it's own software raid interface |
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| 16:37.33 | _art3mis | correct |
| 16:37.38 | snirks | "Sorry guys, was busy talking about RAID and LVM with other geeks in #wowace" |
| 16:37.44 | Ixan | ^^ |
| 16:37.48 | yacoob | _art3mis, there's one thing wrong with your description, you can ask lvm to do stripping |
| 16:37.55 | snirks | stripping :p |
| 16:38.00 | _art3mis | yacoob: yeah but on a base level... ;) |
| 16:38.04 | yacoob | 8) |
| 16:38.08 | Ixan | the sw raid in the kernel can often be faster then a part hw-based raid |
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| 16:38.20 | _art3mis | depends entirely on the type and amount of data |
| 16:38.24 | snirks | yacoob: so raid or no raid, you cant go wrong with LVM? |
| 16:38.25 | jme | wow, i read that as stormwind raid on the kernel |
| 16:38.27 | Ixan | into english: your raid controller could be slower, than just using sw raid |
| 16:38.30 | jme | what is wrong with me |
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| 16:38.39 | Uhuru | the latest version of atlasloot seems to don't work |
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| 16:38.42 | _art3mis | snirks: yup lvm is a good way to go |
| 16:38.45 | yacoob | snirks, it's fun to know, sometimes it's even useful :) believe me, HOWTO will clarify it for you :) |
| 16:38.49 | Ixan | lvm is always win |
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| 16:38.59 | Ixan | but once a disk fuck up, you are fucked too |
| 16:39.12 | _art3mis | ive got mirrored hw raid on ym echange at work |
| 16:39.16 | _art3mis | my exchange |
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| 16:39.29 | jme | yoshimo: BY THE LIGHT OF THE MOON!!! |
| 16:39.31 | Aondo | snirks tittentei |
| 16:39.31 | Pkekyo | is there any Ace equivalent of TrinketMenu? |
| 16:39.35 | jme | er |
| 16:39.39 | jme | s/yoshimo/yacoob |
| 16:39.57 | snirks | yacoob: found a LVM on ltdp |
| 16:40.00 | snirks | tldp |
| 16:40.03 | Ixan | <-- will give free sysadming for ace-replacement for auctioneer |
| 16:40.11 | snirks | yacoob: but dont find time to read it. work -> eat -> raid |
| 16:40.16 | snirks | i should quit wow to be honest |
| 16:40.23 | yacoob | jme, only thing that comes to my mind is Sailor Moon... :D |
| 16:40.29 | jme | yacoob: heh |
| 16:40.38 | yacoob | but I'm not right, am I? |
| 16:41.05 | jme | yacoob: i was referring to the wow video abotu the story of Jack and the two gnome mages choosing factions in outlands |
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| 16:41.08 | jme | about* |
| 16:41.14 | jme | Johnnie? |
| 16:41.19 | yacoob | ah, never seen that. |
| 16:41.27 | yacoob | anyway, gotta be going :) |
| 16:41.36 | Uhuru | is there an atlasloot develloper here ? |
| 16:41.36 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r43496 10XLoot/localization.zhCN.lua: XLoot: fix zhCN local, ansi to utf8. show Chinese bug. |
| 16:42.54 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r43497 10Capping/core.lua: |
| 16:42.54 | CIA-22 | Capping |
| 16:42.54 | CIA-22 | - should no longer enable the battlefield map for world pvp areas |
| 16:43.02 | jme | yacoob: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/29/wow-moviewatch-jimmy-a-world-of-warcraft-story/ |
| 16:43.04 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/374jlm |
| 16:43.10 | jme | jimmy, not johnnie or jack..i fail |
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| 16:45.27 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r43498 10Sphere/ButtonSkins/ButtonSkins.lua: Sphere: - Fixed Buttons not moving with Sphere |
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| 16:47.39 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 16:47.45 | Pkekyo | is there any Ace equivalent of TrinketMenu? |
| 16:48.01 | Pkekyo | if not: someone make it plx? :> |
| 16:48.05 | sag_ich_nicht | if bugsack is showing something like 3/15 and only showing 3 errors when i open the sack it means it's a repeat error, right? >.> |
| 16:48.17 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 16:48.18 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: yep: 3 unique errors / 15 total |
| 16:48.25 | Benumbed | one error should have (x12) |
| 16:48.27 | Antiarc|Work | Pkekyo: Sounds like a good project to learn on! :) |
| 16:48.27 | Benumbed | or w/e |
| 16:48.46 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i see it now |
| 16:48.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work |
| 16:48.50 | Pkekyo | Antiarc: sure, but how to learn lua and wow api? |
| 16:48.52 | sag_ich_nicht | now you have said something |
| 16:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you can not escape my claws of annoyance now! |
| 16:49.06 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 16:49.15 | TotallyNotAntiar | *ninja vanish* |
| 16:49.16 | sag_ich_nicht | fail. |
| 16:49.35 | Antiarc|Work | Perception can't see through Vanish >_> |
| 16:49.40 | Benumbed | forgot to cast |
| 16:49.45 | sag_ich_nicht | okay wait |
| 16:49.56 | Pkekyo | Antiarc: how do you recommend I try to learn lua and wow api? |
| 16:49.57 | Antiarc|Work | :( |
| 16:50.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:49] <Benumbed> forgot to cast <--no, i'm using simple combat log :P |
| 16:50.17 | Antiarc|Work | Pkekyo: Look at other mods, use the tutorials on Wowace and Wowwiki |
| 16:50.24 | Antiarc|Work | s'how most of us did it :) |
| 16:50.46 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 16:50.59 | Benumbed | well im not using simple combat log, so you hacked and it never casted on my screen |
| 16:51.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc I did some further testing, it looks like the events for the judgements all look the same, no matter if it's applying a debuff or not |
| 16:51.20 | Pkekyo | so basically... get trinketmenu, and try figure out how the hell it does the stuff it does? |
| 16:51.46 | Antiarc|Work | Well, yeah, that would be a definite resource |
| 16:52.03 | Antiarc|Work | But also try out a simple addon that, say, lets you select from a list of trinkets, to begin with |
| 16:52.10 | Antiarc|Work | Then grow that into TrinketMenu-type functionality |
| 16:52.19 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Ah, good stuff. |
| 16:52.23 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.25 | Antiarc|Work | I didn't have a chance to test it myself last night :x |
| 16:52.35 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.38 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.43 | Pkekyo | antiarc: it's me that's dead |
| 16:52.46 | Antiarc|Work | (or redemption or ancestral spirit or whatever) |
| 16:52.47 | Antiarc|Work | Oh |
| 16:53.01 | Pkekyo | I saw someone say it here the other night, but can't remember it |
| 16:53.05 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.17 | Pkekyo | Antiarc: you know any addons that lets you select from a list of trinkets? |
| 16:53.25 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.33 | Antiarc|Work | Pkekyo: Well, trinket menu :P |
| 16:53.34 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: ItemRack, TrinketMenu |
| 16:53.35 | sag_ich_nicht | so it should be sufficient to just use UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED player, Judgement |
| 16:53.45 | sag_ich_nicht | saves you implementing it seperatly for each Judgement |
| 16:53.59 | Pkekyo | so basically...trinketmenu? x) |
| 16:54.10 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: If we say it more, will it convince you? :p |
| 16:54.21 | sag_ich_nicht | so basicially create a category for trinkets in engbags? :P |
| 16:54.29 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: maybe, if you're lucky ;> |
| 16:54.47 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: EngBags? Baggins! :p |
| 16:55.04 | Pkekyo | in short: I've gotta learn how to port an addon from non-ace to ace...? |
| 16:55.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Xuerian: screw baggins :P |
| 16:55.19 | Arrowmaster | no, porting bad |
| 16:55.21 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: Ace has little to do with you learning the api |
| 16:55.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo why would you want to port it to ace if the current version works perfectly fine? |
| 16:55.37 | Xuerian | Additionally, it doesn't need to be ported, it's a good addon by a great author |
| 16:55.52 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: true, but I just want trinketmenu as Ace2 :> |
| 16:55.55 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 16:56.01 | Xuerian | ~whalecrit Pkekyo |
| 16:56.01 | purl | ACTION crits Pkekyo with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Pkekyo dies |
| 16:56.49 | Pkekyo | been working hard to get a 100% Aced UI...now I have one...but realized I need trinketmenu...kinda need the same thing for rings too, come to think 'bout it... |
| 16:56.50 | Xuerian | Ace2 doesn't mean better. It means easier. In the getting there, it can also help reduce overall resource usage. Specific solutions coded well will almost always work faster and lighter than using Ace |
| 16:57.00 | trh | Adirelle|Work: [2007/07/11 18:51:01-684-x1]: SimpleSelfRebuff-r43293\SimpleSelfRebuff.lua:1146: attempt to index a nil value --- |
| 16:57.35 | rubik | on yeah.. soo.. i'm ready for one of them fancy bag addons that lets you customize/group items by types, etc.. switching from OneBag (which i've been using since forever).. what to replace with? baggins? arkinventory? something else? sanity bags (*nudge antiarc*)? heh |
| 16:57.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo please learn what ace2 actually is D: |
| 16:57.49 | sag_ich_nicht | rubik: EngBags |
| 16:58.05 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/inventory/engbags-updated/ |
| 16:58.07 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/ywqhkq |
| 16:58.13 | Xuerian | rubik: EngBags is nice, but it's sortof a hog. Baggins is a nice alternative, and can be better or worse depending on what you like |
| 16:58.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Xuerian why do you consider engbags a hog? :O |
| 16:58.42 | Xerophyte | I really like ArkInv's rule system for sorting out categories, personally. Admit I've not really tried all the alternatives |
| 16:58.47 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: Unless it's been improved exponentially since I last used it, it is sortof a hog. I didn't say a lot, did I? |
| 16:58.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Xuerian well |
| 16:59.05 | sag_ich_nicht | you still didn't say what kind of hog |
| 16:59.06 | sag_ich_nicht | resource hog? |
| 16:59.10 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 16:59.29 | CIA-22 | 03adelea * r43499 10GridManaBars/ (. GridManaBars.lua GridManaBars.toc): |
| 16:59.29 | CIA-22 | GridManaBars: |
| 16:59.29 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.29 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.29 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.30 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.15 | sag_ich_nicht | 1.89 MB D: |
| 17:00.29 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:00.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i have 2 GB |
| 17:00.36 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: Has it improved it's event handling (Less cpu usage?) |
| 17:00.48 | Xuerian | s/?)/)?/ |
| 17:00.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i think so |
| 17:00.59 | Pkekyo | damnit...can't move oRA2 maintank frames...any ideas? |
| 17:01.03 | Xuerian | Well then it's a tie for baggins, I used to love engbags. |
| 17:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo hold alt, drag |
| 17:01.17 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't work in combat, iirc |
| 17:01.19 | sag_ich_nicht | if that doesn' |
| 17:01.25 | sag_ich_nicht | t work, use fluidframes to force move it |
| 17:01.25 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
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| 17:01.57 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 17:02.08 | sag_ich_nicht | my fubar has a small rendering area left on it's left and right side |
| 17:02.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and i can't get rid of it |
| 17:02.15 | sag_ich_nicht | someone help me D: |
| 17:02.23 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: thanks, lifesaver |
| 17:02.40 | Pkekyo | also: what's the cooldown monitor thing? |
| 17:03.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Battlerez |
| 17:03.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and similiar |
| 17:03.25 | Pkekyo | druid ress, ankh ++ ? |
| 17:03.32 | Funkeh` | hi all |
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| 17:03.40 | Pkekyo | - basically only raidleader needs it..? |
| 17:03.48 | kergoth | hmm... i wonder if git submodule support works yet |
| 17:03.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo it's not counting all of them, because... well blame Cide. |
| 17:04.14 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43500 10DrDamage/ (Data/Paladin.lua Data/Rogue.lua Melee.lua): |
| 17:04.14 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:04.14 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a few paladin errors |
| 17:04.14 | CIA-22 | - Added shiv |
| 17:04.23 | sag_ich_nicht | hello Gagorian |
| 17:04.24 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 17:04.47 | Pkekyo | christ, all the guild's palas chose the same week to respecc retri >.< |
| 17:05.05 | Xerophyte | Pkekyo: Combat res, soulstone, ankh and Divine Intervention cooldowns. Handy but, yes, mostly for raid leaders |
| 17:06.02 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Hello. Your errors should be fixed |
| 17:06.04 | art3mis | Dr. Klahn: The CIA thinks they can infiltrate the Mountain of Dr. Klahn! |
| 17:06.05 | art3mis | CIA Agent: You can't scare me, you slant-eyed yellow bastard. |
| 17:06.05 | art3mis | Dr. Klahn: Take him to... Detroit! |
| 17:06.05 | art3mis | CIA Agent: No! No, not Detroit! No! No, please! Anything but that! No! No! |
| 17:06.33 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Oh missed last one. checking! |
| 17:06.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
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| 17:07.31 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43501 10DrDamage/Caster.lua: |
| 17:07.31 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:07.31 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a typo in a translation string. |
| 17:07.50 | art3mis | http://www.maximonline.com/promo/codemonkeys/sweeps.aspx <-- win Dragon's Lair!!! |
| 17:08.53 | sag_ich_nicht | US only |
| 17:08.54 | sag_ich_nicht | fail. |
| 17:09.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:04] <Pkekyo> christ, all the guild's palas chose the same week to respecc retri >.< <--lol |
| 17:09.17 | sag_ich_nicht | they are hoping for patch 2.2 |
| 17:09.27 | sag_ich_nicht | the will all fail ret tho |
| 17:09.49 | sag_ich_nicht | probably not do any damage because their equip sucks and fail to control their aggro |
| 17:09.59 | Pkekyo | well, it kinda makes raiding fuckall hard...got no healers |
| 17:10.12 | sag_ich_nicht | also not use repentance and spot heal and... well just generally be noobs |
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| 17:12.49 | Pkekyo | gotta love mouse running out of batteries during raids :> |
| 17:13.15 | Pkekyo | raidleaders hate me ^^ |
| 17:13.15 | sag_ich_nicht | that is why I have a MX518. |
| 17:13.22 | Pkekyo | <--- MX1000 |
| 17:13.39 | Pkekyo | I have so much shit on my desk it'd be impossible use a mouse with a wire |
| 17:14.22 | sag_ich_nicht | want me to take a picture of my desk? |
| 17:14.29 | Pkekyo | even the shit my monitor is standing on is so unstable, my screen keeps falling over |
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| 17:14.34 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: not really |
| 17:14.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm a super high sensitivity player |
| 17:14.49 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: unless we're gonna play a game of "identify the sticky marks" |
| 17:14.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i move my mouse like 1mm and it moves half the screen |
| 17:15.02 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis no sticky marks on my desk |
| 17:15.06 | Mudkips | yikes |
| 17:15.09 | art3mis | only the keyboard eh? |
| 17:15.14 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis nope |
| 17:15.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Mudkips :P |
| 17:15.49 | Pkekyo | I move my mouse 1/3 of what the pointer moves on the screen :> |
| 17:15.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no, you don't. |
| 17:16.10 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you disabled mouse acceleration completely. |
| 17:16.11 | Mudkips | I have a mousepad the size of a Mc'donalds food tray |
| 17:16.25 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:16.34 | Mudkips | it's hueg liek xbox |
| 17:16.51 | sag_ich_nicht | sssssh. |
| 17:17.14 | kenlyric | why in the world would buff filters on a hunter pet filter out frenzy? |
| 17:18.03 | Pkekyo | hahaha |
| 17:18.03 | art3mis | kenlyric: same reason your mount gets filtered out in most UFs despite needing to click on the buff for it to go away |
| 17:18.17 | kenlyric | that's not the same reason at all :) |
| 17:18.27 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: yes I do :> |
| 17:19.00 | sag_ich_nicht | GOD DAMN IT. |
| 17:19.08 | sag_ich_nicht | patch 2.1.3 broke my macros. |
| 17:19.52 | Kaelten | ya heard there is a bug with it |
| 17:20.40 | charon | anyone here who regularly plays WoW on cedega? i'd be grateful for some tuning help |
| 17:21.00 | Mudkips | O_o |
| 17:21.08 | Pkekyo | tried WINE once...never got it to work >_< |
| 17:21.27 | Mudkips | just dual-boot |
| 17:21.33 | Mudkips | less of a headache |
| 17:21.45 | art3mis | best breath freshener in the world...... wasabi peas |
| 17:21.56 | art3mis | i use crossover |
| 17:22.01 | charon | i am and it's driving me crazy since i use linux for everything else, even wc3 and stuff |
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| 17:23.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian still one left in, or the SVN didn't propagate correctly |
| 17:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
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| 17:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | SVN didn't propagate |
| 17:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Kaelten |
| 17:24.03 | purl | ACTION runs at Kaelten with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 17:24.16 | Kaelten | ~stab sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:24.17 | purl | ACTION runs at sag_ich_nicht with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 17:24.21 | Kaelten | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:24.21 | purl | executes killall -HUP sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:24.26 | jme | ~stab you both |
| 17:24.27 | purl | ACTION runs at you both with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 17:24.32 | Kaelten | ~whaleslap sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:24.33 | purl | ACTION beats sag_ich_nicht upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:24.34 | Pkekyo | Mudkips: yeah, that's my current solution |
| 17:24.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleparry |
| 17:24.40 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 17:24.44 | Kaelten | ha~ |
| 17:24.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleparry Kaelten |
| 17:24.45 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Kaelten's attacks. |
| 17:24.49 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit! |
| 17:24.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalecrit Kaelten |
| 17:24.52 | purl | ACTION crits Kaelten with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Kaelten dies |
| 17:25.00 | Kaelten | ~whaleparry sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:25.01 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry sag_ich_nicht's attacks. |
| 17:25.05 | Kaelten | ~hide sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:25.06 | purl | ACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers sag_ich_nicht with it so that nobody can see what sag_ich_nicht is doing! |
| 17:25.14 | Kaelten | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:25.14 | purl | chops sag_ich_nicht in half with a free AOL CD |
| 17:25.22 | charon | Mudkips, Pkekyo: with WoW running on linux i could at least do something _useful_ during the bloody >30min BG wait times, for starters... |
| 17:25.27 | Kaelten | couldn't see that coming could you! |
| 17:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 17:25.42 | art3mis | NERDS! |
| 17:26.00 | Kaelten | ~roll |
| 17:26.01 | purl | A program for rolling complex dice combinations. URL: http://electricrain.com/epos_6/downloads.html |
| 17:26.13 | Kaelten | ~random 20 |
| 17:26.27 | art3mis | for soem reason i get the feeling that some where amidst kaels stuff is a usb rocket launcher and mini RC helicopter |
| 17:26.28 | ag` | Hullo |
| 17:26.29 | Kaelten | hrm suprised he doesn't have a roll command to give back a random result |
| 17:26.30 | charon | haste: how much worse is performance compared to windows? do you run opengl or d3d? |
| 17:26.36 | jme | Kaelten: time to add one! |
| 17:26.44 | haste | charon: better, opengl |
| 17:26.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rng 20 |
| 17:27.07 | Mudkips | :o |
| 17:27.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:27.10 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43502 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Textures/otravi-recycle.tga): oRA2: add refresh icon, will be replaced by a spiffier one no doubt |
| 17:27.14 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 17:27.16 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe |
| 17:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ~dice |
| 17:27.31 | art3mis | ~random 20 |
| 17:27.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~roll 20 |
| 17:27.52 | purl | ACTION stuffs 20 in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 17:27.57 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 17:27.59 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r43503 10UnitActionBars/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:27.59 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 17:27.59 | CIA-22 | - Added support for displaying messages in raid, party, say channels as well as emotes or just to yourself. Uses DogTag-1.0 to format message text. |
| 17:28.05 | art3mis | Kaelten: you're Capt. Murphy? |
| 17:28.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ~help |
| 17:28.34 | NeoTron | so we had a rough night on void reaver.. but our three best healers (3 paladins) were out.. and we had melee stay in for pounding |
| 17:28.36 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43504 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Azgalor.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Azgalor: add 10 minute enrage timer |
| 17:28.47 | NeoTron | and mind you we had 6 healers - 1 shaman, 5 priests.. and 10 melee |
| 17:28.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lobotomy Kaelten |
| 17:28.50 | purl | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on Kaelten |
| 17:28.53 | art3mis | NeoTron: ay of them walking funny today? |
| 17:28.58 | NeoTron | it's a miracle we killed him :P |
| 17:29.03 | NeoTron | lol |
| 17:29.09 | Kaelten | ~holyhandgranade sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:29.18 | Kaelten | doubt that will work |
| 17:29.26 | Kaelten | ~rabbit sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:29.27 | art3mis | because it's spelt grenade? |
| 17:29.33 | Kaelten | er, possibily? |
| 17:29.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ~kernel |
| 17:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 17:29.49 | Kaelten | ~holyhandgrendade sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:29.53 | Mudkips | fail |
| 17:29.56 | art3mis | gettig closer |
| 17:29.58 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:30.01 | sag_ich_nicht | failure |
| 17:30.03 | Mudkips | Please try again |
| 17:30.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ~holyhandgrenade Kaelten |
| 17:30.13 | Kaelten | bah |
| 17:30.16 | rubik | hmm.. still using kernel 2.6.9 on my gentoo box |
| 17:30.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ~karma |
| 17:30.28 | purl | sag_ich_nicht has neutral karma |
| 17:30.28 | Kaelten | ~kamikaze sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:30.30 | NeoTron | ~fishslap sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:30.31 | purl | ACTION slaps sag_ich_nicht up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:30.39 | sylvaan | http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html |
| 17:30.40 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/5kjv3 |
| 17:30.44 | Kaelten | ~dive sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:30.45 | sylvaan | theres one i never knew about |
| 17:30.48 | Kaelten | random commands for the win |
| 17:30.54 | ckknight | sbu: no, that'll be handled by triggers |
| 17:31.29 | sylvaan | wtf why am i sylvaan |
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| 17:32.43 | sylvanaar | thats the only way you can make settings on the flash player which is installed on your machine |
| 17:32.46 | kebinusan | ~whaletubes Kaelten |
| 17:32.47 | purl | ACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into Kaelten's tubes. Kaelten's internets no worky :( |
| 17:32.56 | jme | haha |
| 17:32.58 | sag_ich_nicht | woah |
| 17:33.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian |
| 17:33.02 | sag_ich_nicht | your numbers |
| 17:33.06 | sag_ich_nicht | for Seal of Command |
| 17:33.08 | sag_ich_nicht | are way off |
| 17:33.09 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 17:33.53 | sag_ich_nicht | according to this my SoC hits for 3k, selfbuffed. |
| 17:34.03 | Kaelten | er I feel full |
| 17:34.18 | sag_ich_nicht | my highest SoC crit was 2961, against a lair brute at gruul. |
| 17:34.18 | Kaelten | ~kick kebinusan |
| 17:34.19 | purl | ACTION kicks kebinusan |
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| 17:34.35 | kebinusan | ouch |
| 17:35.45 | RogueShadow | ~karma |
| 17:35.45 | purl | rogueshadow has neutral karma |
| 17:35.45 | charon | haste: any special settings? opengl gives me slightly worse performance than d3d and even that is around 10-15fps in shattrath where windows at least gets a workable 20-25 |
| 17:36.17 | haste | charon: not really, d3d gives me horrible performance tho' |
| 17:36.20 | sylvanaar | god makes me want to uninstall that flash player |
| 17:36.36 | charon | haste: what kind of gpu? i have a radeon mobility 9600 |
| 17:36.53 | haste | oh, ati.. go for nvidia in linux |
| 17:36.59 | charon | :( |
| 17:37.03 | charon | not like i can change it in my laptop |
| 17:37.10 | haste | the drivers ati have are totally crap |
| 17:37.19 | charon | but yeah, ati drivers had three digit glxgears fps until like two revisions ago |
| 17:37.46 | charon | even though wc3 has always worked fine |
| 17:38.39 | sylvanaar | there we go - got an ad for azerothadviser.com |
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| 17:40.00 | snurre | heyo bitches |
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| 17:40.12 | NightHawkAtWork | GRAAARRGH |
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| 17:40.24 | haste | heh, I got 10k4 with WoW running |
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| 17:41.46 | Arrowmaster | i need a fucking battery backup, 1:30 in the afternoon and the fucking power goes out for 5 minutes |
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| 17:42.04 | jme | attack of the killer peers |
| 17:42.14 | NeoTron | so I realized last night... that during my time as destruction I lost not just my finetuned affliction dot skillz.. I also don't enjoy affliction much in raiding anymore |
| 17:42.46 | sbu | ckknight_: mh - so no way to disable notification events ingame? |
| 17:42.53 | ckknight_ | art3mis: what's wrong with my huge addons? |
| 17:42.59 | Dotted^2 | ag` ping |
| 17:43.03 | ckknight_ | sbu: no, but I added a suppression system |
| 17:43.18 | ckknight | sbu: you can edit the lua for now |
| 17:43.25 | ckknight | I'll add a config later today |
| 17:43.47 | sbu | uhm |
| 17:43.57 | sbu | [19:30:53] (ckknight): sbu: no, that'll be handled by triggers <-- what was that referring to? |
| 17:44.46 | ckknight | sbu: adding a Clearcasting event, etc. |
| 17:44.53 | sbu | ahh okay |
| 17:45.46 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r43505 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Remove debug line |
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| 17:46.05 | Pkekyo | gotta love a guild that lets you MT in kara in zerkerstance with 2h ^^ |
| 17:46.07 | sbu | so you say i dont have to add that stuff because it will be handled somewhere else, right? :p |
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| 17:46.41 | ckknight | sbu: right, in a very general fashion |
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| 17:47.03 | sbu | ah okay :) |
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| 17:49.00 | Pkekyo | anyone here familliar with EBB? |
| 17:49.07 | sbu | EBB or EBBs? |
| 17:49.14 | ag` | Dotted, pong |
| 17:49.19 | Pkekyo | EBBs |
| 17:49.35 | Pkekyo | trying to get the font a bit more transparent |
| 17:50.56 | NeoTron | so I guess the latest patch didn't fix lockup (or extremely slow) on login issue |
| 17:51.00 | Pkekyo | any way to do so? |
| 17:51.02 | NeoTron | with custom unit frames (x-perl to be exact) |
| 17:52.18 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Does it say it hits for 3k.. or the total effect is 3k? |
| 17:54.18 | charon | haste: i don't get it, it's almost twice as fast on windows :( but i guess it's hopeless until i have another card, either non ati or with a lot of power i can waste |
| 17:54.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian: avg. total |
| 17:54.41 | charon | thanks anyway for your help |
| 17:55.08 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Avg total means what it does under the entire seal effect |
| 17:55.24 | Gagorian | Check the tooltip for min and max ranges |
| 17:55.25 | CIA-22 | 03feu * r43506 10RaidStatus/RaidStatus.toc: |
| 17:55.25 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: |
| 17:55.25 | CIA-22 | - TOC update |
| 17:56.09 | sbu | mhh - whats best to do on karathress, hunter first or shaman first? |
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| 17:57.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian you shouldn't be using an average tho |
| 17:57.06 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:57.19 | jme | sbu: http://www.wowwiki.com/Fathom-Lord_Karathress says shaman first |
| 17:57.42 | Arrowmaster | bosskillers says hunter first |
| 17:57.49 | sbu | hm yeah, but i'm not sure about that since shaman puts a lot of dmg on the tank |
| 17:57.57 | sbu | 3*4k / 1s and stuff |
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| 17:59.10 | FISKER_Q | oh lawd |
| 17:59.11 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: It's needed for DPS/DPM calculations, and it also tells what gear is best for max avg damage so total is valuable. |
| 17:59.16 | FISKER_Q | The french are faggots |
| 17:59.28 | FISKER_Q | Blizzard EU are considering "SS" as racist |
| 17:59.31 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: I will ofc add an option to display avg hit on actionbar |
| 18:00.15 | sbu | FISKER_Q: mh, where? player name? guild name? |
| 18:00.24 | FISKER_Q | guildname |
| 18:00.30 | FISKER_Q | or arena name |
| 18:00.36 | FISKER_Q | i don't think you can have a 2char character name |
| 18:01.21 | FISKER_Q | definately an obvious conflict of interest there |
| 18:02.30 | CIA-22 | 03mcc * r43507 10beql/questlog.lua: beql: - remove coloring string in report quest to the chatframe |
| 18:02.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian you should still use median and not average. |
| 18:02.56 | sag_ich_nicht | average is only true for a very long fight >.> |
| 18:02.57 | NeoTron | sbu: we found hunter was best because he kept eating our healers mana |
| 18:03.11 | NeoTron | we tank hunter and shaman in the same spot and always burn down the spitfire totem |
| 18:03.14 | sbu | hm yes and the pets are annoying :/ |
| 18:03.56 | sbu | will take some time untill those 'smart' dd will get that totem thing right *sigh* :o |
| 18:04.01 | NeoTron | and a druid tank is good for the shaman |
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| 18:04.11 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Avg still needs to be calculated |
| 18:04.20 | NightHawkAtWork | Ugh, fucking hate pc's. slow to a crawl at the tinyest bit of multitasking |
| 18:04.20 | NeoTron | even if they can't crushing blow, it helps to smooth out the damage spikes somewhat |
| 18:04.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian true |
| 18:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 18:04.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Average Hit 634 Average Crit 1268 can't equal 2820 Average Total |
| 18:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | which is what's happening here |
| 18:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:05.14 | charon | FISKER_Q: even wikipedia has SS=Sturmstaffel and hides the rest behind a disambig link, i guess their POV is understandable |
| 18:05.30 | FISKER_Q | Understandable, but unacceptable |
| 18:05.33 | NeoTron | sbu: macro: /target spit; /cast Shadow Bolt;/targetlasttarget or so.. |
| 18:05.48 | FISKER_Q | I think the only reason why this is an issue is because they are french |
| 18:05.50 | CIA-22 | 03feu * r43508 10RaidStatus/ (RaidStatus.lua RaidStatus.toc): |
| 18:05.50 | CIA-22 | RaidStatus: |
| 18:05.50 | CIA-22 | - TOC update (DEV ONLY tag) |
| 18:05.50 | CIA-22 | - Implemented events registering |
| 18:05.52 | NeoTron | add a /stopcasting first too |
| 18:06.05 | FISKER_Q | I would almost buy an US account just to make a guild named SS |
| 18:06.07 | sbu | NeoTron: dont tell me... tell the DD - "oh, i can finish my cast... and maybe put another cast on boss? :o" :/ |
| 18:06.08 | FISKER_Q | just to test it out |
| 18:06.12 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43509 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Archimonde: warn who air burst is being cast on, drycoded |
| 18:06.29 | NeoTron | sbu: if they are almost done, finish.. otherwise cancel |
| 18:06.39 | sbu | *sigh* :) |
| 18:06.48 | sbu | but ppl are dumb... :p |
| 18:06.55 | sbu | as i said, will take some time ;) |
| 18:07.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian so unless i'm missing something the calc for Seal of Command average total is wrong |
| 18:07.42 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 18:07.51 | Gagorian | It's 7 PPM |
| 18:07.58 | Gagorian | so average total over 30 seconds is 3.5 procs |
| 18:08.03 | NeoTron | sbu: we had issues too |
| 18:08.03 | Gagorian | 3.5 * avg damage per hit |
| 18:08.09 | NeoTron | and still have ppl that said they didn't have time |
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| 18:08.23 | NeoTron | when I could cast 2-4 shadow bolts per totem.. |
| 18:08.34 | sbu | yep %-) |
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| 18:09.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian oh I see what you are doing here. SoC only stays on for 8 seconds for me tho :P |
| 18:09.37 | sag_ich_nicht | then it goes judgement-->SoC again :P |
| 18:09.40 | NeoTron | window's memory management seems so bad |
| 18:09.54 | sbu | window's or windows'? :P |
| 18:10.08 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: I just realized that a /cast Judgement; /stopcasting;/cast Seal of Command macro was a good idea on my pally |
| 18:10.14 | NeoTron | windows' :P |
| 18:10.14 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: not just memory management, it's windowing daemon is piss-poor, as is its ability to retain responsiveness and activity while multitasking |
| 18:10.36 | NightHawkAtWork | This pc basically freezes up anytime i try to do more than 1-2 things at once. |
| 18:10.45 | NeoTron | NightHawkAtWork: dual core cpu help a lot with that |
| 18:11.03 | NeoTron | but what I find amazing is that it's saying it's low on swap space... when I have over 1 GB free unused memory |
| 18:11.04 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: yeah, but that's absurd. It's trivial to solve it at the software level with a single cpu |
| 18:11.05 | sbu | oh btw |
| 18:11.06 | NeoTron | wtf? |
| 18:11.08 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Well, DPS calculations are still correct then. Just the average total is less and DPM, but I can't do anything about that |
| 18:11.09 | sbu | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=4D872335578B8FA198BD324111B59082?topicId=174760697&sid=1 <-- very interesting |
| 18:11.09 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: no it's not, if you want to use different seals too :P |
| 18:11.10 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/yqvbab |
| 18:11.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian mhm true |
| 18:11.27 | sbu | about windows, alt-tab, refresh rate and wow freeze ;) |
| 18:11.32 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r43510 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:11.32 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 18:11.32 | CIA-22 | - rogues: added poison level ranges, |
| 18:11.32 | CIA-22 | - hopefully fixed group-wide buffs, |
| 18:11.32 | CIA-22 | - fixed "attempt to index local 'buff' (a nil value)" line 699, |
| 18:11.33 | CIA-22 | - fixed "attempt to index a nil value" line 1146. |
| 18:11.35 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: I'm adding a clarifying text to the tooltip |
| 18:11.42 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 18:11.43 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: for dpsing... I use SoC, press the macro, crusader strike, macro, crusader strike, judgement or similar |
| 18:11.56 | Gagorian | Hits: ~procs x ~perproc (x PPM) |
| 18:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah and then you are oom at some point and want to use SoW |
| 18:12.03 | Gagorian | so you get avg total calculation :p |
| 18:12.06 | NeoTron | well I can do that |
| 18:12.10 | NeoTron | don't HAVE to hit the macro :) |
| 18:12.20 | sag_ich_nicht | then you need another judgement button |
| 18:12.21 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm wondering if you're calcing in the crit rate/proc correctly tho |
| 18:12.29 | NeoTron | although I found it more effective to sit on my ass and drink rather than SoW (this is soloing mind you, not raiding or group play) |
| 18:12.43 | sag_ich_nicht | I'm thinking group/raid tho |
| 18:12.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
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| 18:12.47 | NeoTron | I have more than 3 buttons on my toolbar! |
| 18:13.07 | NeoTron | heh |
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| 18:13.33 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Oh, does SoC use melee hit or spell hit? |
| 18:13.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i am using 9 action bars |
| 18:13.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian: melee crit |
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| 18:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | and melee hit |
| 18:14.22 | Gagorian | kk, as it's implemented now then |
| 18:14.22 | NightHawkAtWork | woo, netsplit! |
| 18:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT Judgement of Command uses Melee crit but Spell hit |
| 18:14.23 | KarlThePagan | now I feel welcome |
| 18:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc |
| 18:14.23 | NeoTron | oh how I fricking love comcast 459 packets transmitted, 414 received, 9% packet loss, time 462390ms |
| 18:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | it definitinly uses spell hit |
| 18:14.26 | KarlThePagan | I AM BRINGER OF DEATH! SPLITTER OF NETS |
| 18:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | but not sure about the crit |
| 18:14.53 | Pkekyo | is it possible to get chat text transparent? |
| 18:14.55 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron heh |
| 18:15.00 | KarlThePagan | er... "I am become death" ... oops |
| 18:15.37 | sag_ich_nicht | still wrong KarlThePagan |
| 18:15.37 | NeoTron | paladins have confusing mechanics for the spell |
| 18:15.45 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron you tell me |
| 18:15.47 | NeoTron | some spell hit, melee hit, melee crit, spell crit, spelldmg, ap.. |
| 18:15.48 | KarlThePagan | sag_ich_nicht, tell it to Oppenheimer |
| 18:15.55 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlThePagan no i meant |
| 18:15.58 | sag_ich_nicht | you still quoted him wrong |
| 18:16.03 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:16.24 | sag_ich_nicht | it should be I am become death, destroyer of nets. :P |
| 18:16.28 | KarlThePagan | :P |
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| 18:16.44 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 18:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | still wrong |
| 18:16.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it should be I am become death, the destroyer of nets. :P |
| 18:16.49 | KarlThePagan | nittpick my paraphrasing will you! |
| 18:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | there. |
| 18:16.53 | sag_ich_nicht | YES! |
| 18:16.57 | KarlThePagan | RAAAAAAA! |
| 18:17.38 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.faktoider.nu/oppenheimer_eng.html |
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| 18:17.48 | KarlThePagan | yus yus |
| 18:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:17.59 | KarlThePagan | I grew up near the Oak Ridge National Labratory |
| 18:18.37 | KarlThePagan | there's a great museum there and every year we'd take a field trip and learn 80,000 things about nuclear power and such ;) |
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| 18:20.41 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43511 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: add eyeblast and barrage warnings |
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| 18:20.59 | Antiarc|Work | Illidan blasts you with eye lasers? :O |
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| 18:22.15 | Funkeh` | =) |
| 18:22.16 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: half the timers on alar are broken |
| 18:22.17 | trh | i want eye lasers too.. hunters deserve it :) |
| 18:22.20 | nevcairiel | no meteor/enrage timer |
| 18:22.39 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: worked for me when i did it, but ill check it out tomorow |
| 18:22.53 | nevcairiel | well we killed him in 1st anyway .. just mentioning :P |
| 18:23.07 | Funkeh` | using latest version i presume |
| 18:23.11 | Matrix110 | Did Al'ar yesterday there is only a bar for Molten Amor |
| 18:23.16 | Matrix110 | rest is not existant |
| 18:23.18 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 18:23.23 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43512 10DrDamage/ (Data/Paladin.lua Melee.lua): |
| 18:23.23 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 18:23.23 | CIA-22 | - Added ~Procs x ~ DmgPerProc (x PPM) text to SoC and SoR |
| 18:23.23 | Funkeh` | hm |
| 18:23.36 | Matrix110 | Latest rev. ofc |
| 18:24.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian SoR doesn't proc, it always "procs" for each hit |
| 18:25.00 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 18:25.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
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| 18:25.15 | Antiarc|Work | I know, I know, RF is broken :P |
| 18:25.17 | sag_ich_nicht | tell me what needs to be changed to add the damn judgement damage and i'll fix it myself |
| 18:25.20 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 18:25.22 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that. |
| 18:25.24 | sag_ich_nicht | why is RF broken again? D: |
| 18:25.26 | Antiarc|Work | Nothing. <_< |
| 18:25.34 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Yes it does proc, but 100% of the time. Still useful to know how many times, yes? :P |
| 18:25.39 | Antiarc|Work | I dunno. People shoved screens at me saying "It no work!" |
| 18:25.41 | sag_ich_nicht | >:P |
| 18:25.43 | Antiarc|Work | So I need to test it tonight. |
| 18:26.20 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 18:26.22 | sag_ich_nicht | link those screenshots |
| 18:26.25 | sag_ich_nicht | and quote the people |
| 18:26.28 | Gagorian | Does the SoR effect use spell hit or is it unresistable? |
| 18:26.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and i will tell you if they are right or wrong D: |
| 18:26.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:26] <Gagorian> Does the SoR effect use spell hit or is it unresistable? <--think it uses spell hit, but i'm not sure |
| 18:26.44 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: done lurker this week? |
| 18:27.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian also SoR has some strange formula that uses weapon damage as well to influence it's damage |
| 18:27.52 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r43513 10Grid/ (GridLayout.lua GridLocale-deDE.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua): Grid: added clamped to screen option |
| 18:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | but i don |
| 18:27.54 | Matrix110 | Funkeh` my guild did him 20mins ago |
| 18:27.58 | Matrix110 | i can ask them |
| 18:27.59 | sag_ich_nicht | 't know how exactly |
| 18:27.59 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 18:28.02 | Matrix110 | we get plenty bigwigs users |
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| 18:28.06 | Mudkips | wtf http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtfst8.jpg |
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| 18:28.08 | Matrix110 | *got |
| 18:28.34 | Funkeh` | Matrix110: ask anyone using the altest version if dive timers worked |
| 18:28.42 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: They're right - check the omen thread in the wowace forums |
| 18:28.58 | Antiarc|Work | I think my RF detection isn't working for whatever reason |
| 18:29.02 | Antiarc|Work | So the multiplier doesn't kick on |
| 18:29.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i rofl'd. |
| 18:29.16 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check |
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| 18:29.22 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: not yet, no |
| 18:29.42 | nevcairiel | did lurker last thursday i think |
| 18:30.32 | Matrix110 | Funkeh` 2 people with latest revision say they worked |
| 18:30.38 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Well, I've implemented the formula. SoR _should_ be correct otherwise. |
| 18:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | k |
| 18:30.56 | Funkeh` | Matrix110: right thanks |
| 18:30.56 | Leialyn | anyone here knows if all waves in mt hyjal have the same duration ? |
| 18:31.15 | Funkeh` | Leialyn: no they do not |
| 18:31.57 | Leialyn | I made a wave timer addon, but could only test it with the first thrall wave |
| 18:32.58 | Funkeh` | i tried something in bigwigs but it doesn't seem to have the same timer |
| 18:34.04 | Leialyn | the module itself is working but the timer is not right all the time ^^ |
| 18:34.39 | NeoTron | Mudkips: .. lol? |
| 18:35.39 | Mudkips | I dunno |
| 18:35.56 | NeoTron | wonder if it's a photoshop |
| 18:36.07 | NeoTron | would need someone that can read it I guess |
| 18:36.18 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: did you disconect during the encounter |
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| 18:36.38 | Trisorion | ~kaelten |
| 18:36.39 | purl | from memory, kaelten is breaker of forums |
| 18:36.39 | Mudkips | It's not a shoop, it's a real book |
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| 18:36.45 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: no |
| 18:36.48 | nevcairiel | usual fight |
| 18:36.51 | nevcairiel | nothing special |
| 18:36.53 | Bombalin | Hi |
| 18:36.53 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 18:36.56 | Kaelten | I feel loved |
| 18:37.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 18:37.06 | nevcairiel | at least its wrong |
| 18:37.10 | nevcairiel | and doesnt say breaker of wiki :P |
| 18:37.24 | Kaelten | it probably does somewhere |
| 18:37.34 | Trisorion | ~emulate kaelten |
| 18:37.46 | Trisorion | awww |
| 18:38.03 | sag_ich_nicht | 484.6 aggro 119 mana gain 324 holy dmg righteous fury active |
| 18:38.16 | Antiarc|Work | How much physical damage? |
| 18:38.25 | Kaelten | ~Antiarc|Work |
| 18:38.31 | Kaelten | ~Antiarc |
| 18:38.31 | purl | rumour has it, antiarc is the author of Sanity, Hemlock, and Omen, and project lead on Threat-1.0, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ |
| 18:38.47 | Kaelten | and I'm the breaker of forums! |
| 18:38.49 | Kaelten | :S |
| 18:38.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 473.6 aggro gain 119 mana 314 holy dmg |
| 18:39.01 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Okay. |
| 18:39.01 | nevcairiel | ~nevcairiel |
| 18:39.02 | purl | it has been said that nevcairiel is 'awesome' |
| 18:39.03 | sag_ich_nicht | righteous fury deactivated |
| 18:39.09 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 18:39.16 | Antiarc|Work | So the toggle isn't working |
| 18:39.22 | Kaelten | purl, kaelten is nobody |
| 18:39.22 | purl | ...but kaelten is already something else... |
| 18:39.22 | Antiarc|Work | It's getting stuck in its default state |
| 18:39.38 | Josh_Borke | ~kaelten |
| 18:39.39 | purl | hmm... kaelten is More RAM is coming..... KAELTEN AWAYYYYYYYY!!! |
| 18:39.45 | Josh_Borke | purl, forget kaelten |
| 18:39.45 | purl | i forgot kaelten, Josh_Borke |
| 18:39.51 | Kaelten | ~kaelten |
| 18:39.53 | NeoTron | woot I found them - the best pop can cooler there is |
| 18:39.57 | NeoTron | http://www.mistercold.com/thefridge.htm |
| 18:40.09 | Mudkips | pop? |
| 18:40.10 | NeoTron | highly recommended if you don't like your pop warm |
| 18:40.19 | NeoTron | sodapop, soda, carbonated drink in a can.. |
| 18:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:39] <Antiarc|Work> It's getting stuck in its default state <--apparently |
| 18:40.59 | NeoTron | whether you call it sodapop, pop or soda seems to largely depend on where you live (even within the US) |
| 18:41.02 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43514 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: bugfix |
| 18:41.03 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: fixed |
| 18:41.09 | Pkekyo | is it possible to get chat text transparent? |
| 18:41.11 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: fixed for you |
| 18:41.25 | Kaelten | purl, kaelten is nobody |
| 18:41.26 | purl | okay, Kaelten |
| 18:41.31 | Kaelten | ~kaelten |
| 18:41.31 | purl | you are, like, nobody |
| 18:41.38 | Josh_Borke | purl, forget kaelten |
| 18:41.38 | purl | Josh_Borke: i forgot kaelten |
| 18:41.42 | Josh_Borke | ;-P |
| 18:41.45 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: what do i care, my alar is dead and droped only crap :/ |
| 18:41.47 | Kaelten | purl, kaelten is nodbody |
| 18:41.48 | purl | Kaelten: okay |
| 18:41.54 | Kaelten | purl, forget kaelten |
| 18:41.54 | purl | Kaelten: i forgot kaelten |
| 18:42.00 | Kaelten | purl, kaelten is nobody |
| 18:42.00 | purl | okay, Kaelten |
| 18:42.04 | Kaelten | ~kaelten |
| 18:42.04 | purl | i guess kaelten is nobody |
| 18:42.12 | NeoTron | never the less.. it will keep my diet coke cold for a long time |
| 18:42.18 | Josh_Borke | purl, forget kaelten |
| 18:42.18 | purl | i forgot kaelten, Josh_Borke |
| 18:42.19 | durcyn | you can forget + set with a "no", btw. |
| 18:42.26 | Josh_Borke | too much going on! |
| 18:42.30 | Kaelten | :P |
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| 18:42.46 | durcyn | purl, ignore Josh_Borke |
| 18:42.46 | purl | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, Josh_Borke!" |
| 18:42.56 | Kaelten | purl, ignore me |
| 18:42.57 | purl | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, kaelten!" |
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| 18:43.40 | Kaelten | purl, kill me |
| 18:43.41 | purl | ACTION shoots a charged neutron gun at kaelten |
| 18:43.51 | Kaelten | purl, kill the idiots |
| 18:43.52 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse anti-graviton gun at the idiots |
| 18:43.54 | Antiarc|Work | ~recursion |
| 18:43.55 | purl | it has been said that recursion is an invalid command. See ~recursion. |
| 18:43.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:38] <Antiarc|Work> How much physical damage? <--none, i had auto attack of and my back turned |
| 18:44.21 | Kaelten | ~recursion |
| 18:44.22 | purl | recursion is probably an invalid command. See ~recursion. |
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| 18:45.16 | Matrix110 | purl, Kaelten is the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong windows which lead to a empty DB |
| 18:45.17 | purl | Matrix110: okay |
| 18:45.57 | sag_ich_nicht | *an |
| 18:46.11 | Matrix110 | purl, Kaelten is the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong windows which lead to an empty DB |
| 18:46.11 | purl | ...but kaelten is already something else... |
| 18:46.22 | Matrix110 | purl, forget Kaelten |
| 18:46.23 | purl | i forgot kaelten, Matrix110 |
| 18:46.33 | Matrix110 | purl, Kaelten is the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong windows which lead to an empty DB |
| 18:46.34 | purl | Matrix110: okay |
| 18:46.43 | Antiarc|Work | purl, no, Kaelten is the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong winDROP DATABASE wowace_wiki;...aw, dammitall. |
| 18:46.43 | purl | okay, Antiarc|Work |
| 18:47.03 | Antiarc|Work | >_> |
| 18:47.06 | Kaelten | ~kaelten' |
| 18:47.11 | Kaelten | ~kaelten |
| 18:47.12 | purl | methinks kaelten is the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong winDROP DATABASE wowace_wiki;...aw, dammitall. |
| 18:47.26 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: :P |
| 18:47.31 | Trisorion | ~purl |
| 18:47.38 | Chompers | hahaa |
| 18:47.50 | durcyn | you'd think these people had never seen an infobot before |
| 18:47.53 | NeoTron | I once did this to the company phonebook table: update table set first='somename', last='lastname' |
| 18:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, been there |
| 18:48.01 | NeoTron | forgetting or having an invalid where clause that matched all records |
| 18:48.04 | NeoTron | .. in mysql |
| 18:48.07 | NeoTron | so no rollback |
| 18:48.13 | NeoTron | fortunately I had a backup that was really recent |
| 18:48.32 | Trisorion | purl, purl is purl |
| 18:48.33 | purl | Trisorion: okay |
| 18:48.37 | NeoTron | but should add that making a backup was not a regular thing bu something I had just happened to do |
| 18:48.43 | snurre | woot, new PSP announced |
| 18:49.02 | NeoTron | PSP3 now with blue-ray and a starting price of $669 |
| 18:49.04 | sbu | what? :o |
| 18:49.04 | NeoTron | ? |
| 18:49.04 | Trisorion | ~moonwolf |
| 18:49.07 | sbu | %-) |
| 18:49.22 | Trisorion | ~hyperChipmunk |
| 18:49.22 | purl | hmm... hyperchipmunk is *chitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitter* |
| 18:49.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 18:49.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 18:49.31 | Trisorion | lol |
| 18:49.47 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway. |
| 18:49.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work |
| 18:49.51 | sag_ich_nicht | fix that shit. |
| 18:49.58 | sag_ich_nicht | or tell me what to do to fix it |
| 18:50.00 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 18:50.03 | Chompers | the purl messages, are they set by people in the channel? |
| 18:50.11 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Put in debug messages, see where/why it fails! |
| 18:50.16 | snurre | tv output on the new psp :p |
| 18:50.22 | Antiarc|Work | Check :buffChange in ThreatClassModuleCore |
| 18:50.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 18:50.32 | Antiarc|Work | Make sure that you get a function reference when buff == "Righteous Fury" |
| 18:50.41 | Antiarc|Work | See if it executes and toggles the buff status properly |
| 18:50.46 | KarlThePagan | purl KarlThePagan is far too helpful sometimes... I SAID SOMETIMES |
| 18:50.47 | purl | okay, KarlThePagan |
| 18:50.52 | KarlThePagan | ~KarlThePagan |
| 18:50.53 | purl | rumour has it, karlthepagan is far too helpful sometimes... I SAID SOMETIMES |
| 18:50.55 | Josh_Borke | ~kaelten |
| 18:50.56 | purl | from memory, kaelten is the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong winDROP DATABASE wowace_wiki;...aw, dammitall. |
| 18:51.02 | KarlThePagan | Chompers, ;) |
| 18:51.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~~ |
| 18:51.06 | purl | grrrr |
| 18:51.26 | Trisorion | ~purl |
| 18:51.26 | purl | well, purl is purl |
| 18:51.27 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43515 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix a problem with the RF toggle; probably still broken, but not as badly. :V |
| 18:51.30 | Chompers | awesome |
| 18:51.43 | Chompers | ~ckknight |
| 18:51.43 | purl | rumour has it, ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 18:52.16 | sbu | ~emulate ckknight |
| 18:52.16 | purl | <@ckknight> f*ck the regular users? |
| 18:52.19 | Antiarc|Work | purl, Antiarc|Work is Antiarc's evil twin |
| 18:52.20 | purl | Antiarc|Work: okay |
| 18:52.21 | Josh_Borke | no purl, ckknight is <reply>ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
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| 18:52.46 | Antiarc|Work | ~emulate purl |
| 18:52.47 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 18:52.57 | Antiarc|Work | Great success! |
| 18:52.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ~purl |
| 18:52.59 | purl | it has been said that purl is purl |
| 18:53.12 | Josh_Borke | ~ckknight |
| 18:53.13 | purl | i heard ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 18:53.17 | trh | ~emulate ckknight |
| 18:53.17 | purl | <@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
| 18:53.22 | Josh_Borke | no purl, ckknight is <reply>ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 18:53.30 | Josh_Borke | purl, ckknight is <reply>ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 18:53.30 | purl | ...but ckknight is already something else... |
| 18:53.35 | Josh_Borke | no purl, ckknight is <reply>ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 18:53.37 | Josh_Borke | GD |
| 18:53.52 | Antiarc|Work | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 18:53.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten |
| 18:54.00 | sag_ich_nicht | +m |
| 18:54.01 | sag_ich_nicht | please. |
| 18:54.04 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 18:54.13 | Kaelten | +m? |
| 18:54.14 | sag_ich_nicht | this is getting out of hand >_> |
| 18:54.20 | Josh_Borke | ~ckknight |
| 18:54.20 | purl | ckknight is A strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 18:54.22 | sag_ich_nicht | /mode #wowace +m |
| 18:54.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ;P |
| 18:54.25 | Josh_Borke | got it! |
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| 18:54.40 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 18:54.47 | Josh_Borke | sagst_du_nichts: halts du or whatever |
| 18:54.48 | mitch1 | the first A is wrongly capitalized josh :) |
| 18:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke what. |
| 18:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | ~emulate sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:55.21 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 18:55.21 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 18:55.50 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:56.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work i wouldn't even know how to add the debug messages :P |
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| 18:56.17 | Antiarc|Work | Well, then the solution is to wait for me to get off of work and go home :D |
| 18:56.22 | Antiarc|Work | And hope that I can fix it before TKE |
| 18:56.32 | NeoTron | ~emulate ckknight |
| 18:56.33 | purl | <@ckknight>suck it, biatches |
| 18:56.43 | NeoTron | full story indeed |
| 18:56.55 | durcyn | Josh_Borke: you do know you can do that shit in whispers with the bot |
| 18:56.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work or you just continue to commit drycode and tell me what to test for :P |
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| 18:57.17 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: It looks like it should work to me. This requires dirty-hands debugging! |
| 18:57.20 | Josh_Borke | durcyn: i know, that's how i fixed it |
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| 18:57.45 | Trisorion | ~kicklist |
| 18:58.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work i found that stupid taint from cooldowncount yesterday too with nevcairiel's help :P |
| 18:58.09 | Antiarc|Work | It was cooldowncount? |
| 18:58.13 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
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| 18:58.16 | Antiarc|Work | huh |
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| 18:59.46 | sag_ich_nicht | it hooked instead of post hooking some function that was executed as part of a blizz function that BT3 calls in combat |
| 18:59.47 | jme | i am probably going to look to transferring servers soon :( |
| 18:59.49 | jme | SR is dead |
| 18:59.54 | sag_ich_nicht | which resulted in ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED :P |
| 19:01.14 | Pkekyo | is it possible to get chat text transparent? |
| 19:01.26 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly said? i dunno. should be. |
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| 19:01.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work I know the base logic and syntax of lua and blizzards API, i just never bothered to learn either really, and program logic isn't that hard. just tell me the damn function to create the debugging message :P |
| 19:01.58 | Antiarc|Work | ThreatLib:Debug("Whatever message here") |
| 19:02.13 | Antiarc|Work | Then you turn them on with /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true |
| 19:02.19 | Antiarc|Work | And /script ChatFrame5:Show() |
| 19:02.42 | sag_ich_nicht | okay fine lemme see |
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| 19:04.47 | Psylo` | someone can fix atlasloot please ? |
| 19:04.56 | durcyn | Psylo`: how is it broken? |
| 19:05.19 | Psylo` | nothing appears when i click on a boss |
| 19:05.51 | sag_ich_nicht | there we go |
| 19:05.53 | Xerophyte | Patch day, your item cache has been reset |
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| 19:06.04 | Psylo` | and atlaslootenchanced don't work too |
| 19:06.13 | Psylo` | doh |
| 19:06.13 | Trisorion | use cartographer |
| 19:06.15 | Gagorian | I'll have to put all my addons on hold, it's too depressing to log on my orc when the shoulders look like something a child would wear |
| 19:06.34 | trh | Gagorian: agree :( |
| 19:06.44 | trh | Gagorian: even worse: it looks like paladin stuff |
| 19:06.49 | trh | Gagorian: human paladin.. yikes |
| 19:06.52 | Gagorian | That's bad |
| 19:07.29 | Trisorion | ~[Ammo] |
| 19:07.29 | purl | hmm... [ammo] is the author of CandyBars, oRA2, BigWigs, WitchHunt, Necronomicon, and EgoCast |
| 19:07.43 | Trisorion | never heart of those last 2 mods |
| 19:07.47 | Trisorion | heard |
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| 19:11.42 | charon | is there an addon that lets me set raid targets just with mouseover instead of selecting? |
| 19:12.55 | Chompers | bloody hell, gruul down after 17 growths |
| 19:13.15 | [dRaCo] | charon: /script SetRaidTargetIcon("mouseover", 8); might work |
| 19:13.20 | fate- | Gagorian: our MT says he doesnt want to go gruul with baby shoulders, says gruul will laugh at him |
| 19:13.44 | [dRaCo] | charon: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetRaidTarget <-- more info on the api |
| 19:13.56 | sbu | Chompers: thats a lot :o |
| 19:14.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:14.14 | charon | [dRaCo]: thanks a lot! |
| 19:14.32 | [dRaCo] | np =) |
| 19:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work what's the syntax to show vars in :Debug :P |
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| 19:15.46 | Psylo` | this is normal that i have absolutely nothing in atlasloot ? |
| 19:15.54 | sag_ich_nicht | then i'll give you your damn debugging :P |
| 19:15.56 | Psylo` | jcj items too |
| 19:16.01 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: ThreatLib:Debug("Message: %s", variable) |
| 19:16.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ah, %s |
| 19:16.11 | sag_ich_nicht | kk |
| 19:16.13 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 19:17.38 | sag_ich_nicht | this is probably going to error horribly |
| 19:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | but lets see |
| 19:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 19:18.19 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43516 10Assessment/ (10 files in 4 dirs): |
| 19:18.19 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 19:18.19 | CIA-22 | - Added display set for Critical Hit %, clicking on it gives Critical Hit% breakdown by spell, clicking on that gives spell details |
| 19:18.19 | CIA-22 | - Recoded border option related stuff. Now also provides Violation/Recount style windows and extras |
| 19:18.19 | CIA-22 | - Changed a lot of default colors |
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| 19:20.29 | NeoTron | so assassment and violation are two damage meters? |
| 19:20.47 | NeoTron | and then there's recount and recap also in wowace. where does it end? :P |
| 19:20.55 | durcyn | assessment is the thinking man's damage meter. |
| 19:20.55 | Chompers | mmm, recount |
| 19:20.57 | NeoTron | not to mention minnastats and swstats |
| 19:20.59 | Chompers | its rather yummy |
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| 19:22.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work |
| 19:22.56 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:22:34> ThreatLib-Debug: :buffChange called. buffName: Righteous Fury, apllications: 0, texture: Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_SealOfFury, rank: , action: gain |
| 19:22.57 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:22:34> ThreatLib-Debug: :buffChange called. buffName: Sanctity Aura, apllications: 0, texture: Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_MindVision, rank: , action: exis |
| 19:23.10 | sag_ich_nicht | when i buff myself RF |
| 19:23.10 | Antiarc|Work | okay, that's right |
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| 19:23.25 | Antiarc|Work | Now try adding it in the paladin module, in RighteousFuryBuff() |
| 19:23.26 | kaiden | Anyway to make [name] stop showing the afk time in pitbull? :) |
| 19:23.38 | Antiarc|Work | See what the value of rfOn is at the end of the function |
| 19:23.54 | Benumbed | kaiden, change the tag? |
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| 19:25.05 | kaiden | is there a tag without afk time included |
| 19:25.14 | mexicaan | why do some addons have suhc a high maount of increasing rate of kb memory? and is it possible to automate garbage collecting ? |
| 19:25.19 | Benumbed | think so but api still not redone so cant look =\ |
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| 19:25.36 | Benumbed | [playername] maybe? shrug |
| 19:26.28 | raider|poul | hmm, is it posible to change the ui of the nameplate ect enabled by v default ? |
| 19:27.36 | sbu | see aloft |
| 19:27.37 | durcyn | raider|poul: see Aloft. |
| 19:27.39 | Xerophyte | raider: if you mean the graphical look of the 'v' healthbars, try Aloft |
| 19:28.11 | raider|poul | ye the graphical, was just if i could add a little combo point counter on it |
| 19:28.19 | raider|poul | will look at aloft |
| 19:28.20 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 19:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i must have typo'D |
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| 19:30.02 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 19:30.04 | sag_ich_nicht | antiarc |
| 19:30.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i found out why it |
| 19:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | 's bugging already |
| 19:30.22 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:28:30> ThreatLib-Debug: :buffChange called. buffName: Righteous Fury, apllications: 0, texture: Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_SealOfFury, rank: , action: exis |
| 19:30.30 | sag_ich_nicht | but in the paladin module you write |
| 19:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | if action == "gain" then |
| 19:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | rfOn = true |
| 19:31.40 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:31.45 | sag_ich_nicht | now it's doing gain |
| 19:31.46 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme se |
| 19:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | *see |
| 19:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ah i see |
| 19:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 19:32.14 | Xerophyte | Raider: Hrm. You can probably add CPs, yes, but Aloft doesn't have that function. |
| 19:32.32 | Chompers | Gagorian |
| 19:32.33 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43517 10HiveMind/ (EnemyBuffs.lua HiveMind.lua Libs/ TeamCooldowns.lua): HiveMind: Fixed EnemyBuffs, added enemy buff comms for sexytime icon changes, moved comms to HiveMind proper, added Parser-3.0 external. All drycode and probably broken. |
| 19:32.35 | Chompers | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not getting anything from the paladin module |
| 19:32.52 | Antiarc|Work | Okay, I may have the function registration wrong or something |
| 19:33.08 | Benumbed | Chompers, i get same thing with melee.lua except for avgwfhit |
| 19:33.09 | Chompers | i enabled +hit calc then moused over cleave |
| 19:33.22 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: eh? hivemind? |
| 19:33.27 | Benumbed | acgTotalWF_O |
| 19:33.33 | Antiarc|Work | Arena mod, durcyn |
| 19:33.34 | Benumbed | avg |
| 19:33.38 | durcyn | spiffy. |
| 19:33.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:32] <Antiarc|Work> Okay, I may have the function registration wrong or something <--no i was just being stupid |
| 19:33.51 | Antiarc|Work | Lets you keep track of your team's cooldowns, provides alerts for things on enemies that need to be dispelled/spellstolen |
| 19:34.04 | sag_ich_nicht | exist is happens if you already have it and some other buff is changing status :P |
| 19:34.07 | durcyn | the name alone is ten cool points. |
| 19:34.32 | Antiarc|Work | Correct, sag_ich_nicht |
| 19:34.56 | Antiarc|Work | Mmm. I probably don't need to pass on exists. |
| 19:34.59 | Antiarc|Work | That could shave some CPU time. |
| 19:35.34 | Antiarc|Work | no, nevermind |
| 19:35.45 | Antiarc|Work | Ahhh. I see, I think. |
| 19:36.17 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43518 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua: Threat-1.0: Another fix to RF |
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| 19:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | buffing myself: |
| 19:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:36:59> ThreatLib-Debug: :buffChange called. buffName: Righteous Fury, apllications: 0, texture: Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_SealOfFury, rank: , action: gain |
| 19:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:36:59> ThreatLib-Debug: :RighteousFuryBuff called: action: gain, rank: , applications: 0 |
| 19:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:36:59> ThreatLib-Debug: value of rfOn is now: true |
| 19:37.48 | sag_ich_nicht | removing it: |
| 19:37.48 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:37:16> ThreatLib-Debug: :buffChange called. buffName: Righteous Fury, apllications: 0, texture: Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_SealOfFury, rank: , action: lose |
| 19:37.49 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:37:16> ThreatLib-Debug: :RighteousFuryBuff called: action: lose, rank: , applications: 0 |
| 19:37.49 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/11/07 21:37:16> ThreatLib-Debug: value of rfOn is now: false |
| 19:37.52 | sag_ich_nicht | seems fine to me |
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| 19:38.13 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, the fix I just made may fix it permanently |
| 19:38.18 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no wait |
| 19:38.19 | Antiarc|Work | Or wait, hm |
| 19:38.20 | sag_ich_nicht | not fine. |
| 19:38.31 | RogueShadow | Hmm.. What kind of things does Weapon Skill Influence? |
| 19:38.53 | Antiarc|Work | hit, crit, enemy parry, enemy dodge |
| 19:38.54 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:39.03 | RogueShadow | ahah. That makes sense. |
| 19:39.24 | Xerophyte | Enemy block, also, but I'm picking nits. |
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| 19:39.42 | Awaa | Hm.. seems ppl still get freze/disconnect login onto raid |
| 19:39.44 | RogueShadow | I put 2 points into Weapons Expertise on my rogue. |
| 19:41.35 | sylvanaar | ~sylvanaar |
| 19:41.35 | purl | ERROR: stack overflow. |
| 19:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't look at what you changed yet Antiarc but what is :RighteousFuryBuff supposed to do besides toggle the variable? |
| 19:42.19 | RogueShadow | ~RogueShadow |
| 19:42.30 | sylvanaar | ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 19:42.31 | sag_ich_nicht | also looking at the function below it: if rfOn then |
| 19:42.42 | RogueShadow | ~help |
| 19:42.45 | sylvanaar | no |
| 19:42.57 | sag_ich_nicht | shouldn't that be if rfOn == true or something? >.> (dunno the syntax exactly, just asking :P) |
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| 19:43.41 | Mikk | you VERY rarely want to test for == true in lua |
| 19:44.12 | sag_ich_nicht | okay. :O |
| 19:44.19 | Mikk | API functions for instance return 1 to indicate true |
| 19:44.22 | RogueShadow | ~scramble "This shouldn't make a lot of sense" |
| 19:44.24 | Mikk | but 1 isn't == true |
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| 19:44.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: three lines before that: rfOn = true |
| 19:44.57 | RogueShadow | RogueShadow is somebody with a rogue for a main... |
| 19:45.02 | RogueShadow | ~RogueShadow |
| 19:45.04 | sag_ich_nicht | thus the question, i figured lua might have some if var then and if that variable equals true it auto-continues :) |
| 19:46.45 | RogueShadow | ~RogueShadow |
| 19:46.46 | purl | you are, like, pretty cool guy |
| 19:46.54 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 19:47.16 | krka | basically, everything except nil and false evaluates to true in an if-statement in lua |
| 19:47.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i see |
| 19:48.05 | kaiden | wow, just tried Parrot for the first time |
| 19:48.06 | sylvanaar | Mikk means when dealing with blizzard api's you rarely want to test for true |
| 19:48.07 | kaiden | pretty damn impressive |
| 19:48.15 | Chompers | really? |
| 19:48.32 | krka | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.4.4 |
| 19:48.35 | krka | sag_ich_nicht: read that |
| 19:48.42 | sag_ich_nicht | krka: no time :P |
| 19:48.59 | krka | it's only like half a page |
| 19:49.25 | sag_ich_nicht | gah fine |
| 19:49.32 | krka | :) |
| 19:49.49 | sylvanaar | i like 0 being true |
| 19:49.49 | sag_ich_nicht | that's nice. now lemme continue at this code >-> |
| 19:50.03 | sylvanaar | thats especially offensive to me |
| 19:50.32 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm svn should have propagated by now |
| 19:50.41 | charon | btw final macro i made for mouseover symbols is: /script if UnitExists("mouseover") then SetRaidTargetIcon("mouseover",1) else SetRaidTargetIcon("target",1) end |
| 19:50.49 | charon | takes 8 buttons and 8 macros but wth |
| 19:51.07 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 19:51.14 | sag_ich_nicht | or you just find someone to fix bananabar |
| 19:51.15 | sylvanaar | i think i convinced myself they had a good reason for making 0 true, i have since forgotten it |
| 19:51.20 | sag_ich_nicht | because atm it stops WoW from loading |
| 19:53.38 | Mikk | http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/b/1/4508/4508663_kittens.jpg <-- zergling rush! |
| 19:53.53 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Lunch: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108244826&sid=1&pageNo=73#1457 |
| 19:54.22 | NeoTron | Mikk: that's a large concentration of cute there |
| 19:54.52 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 19:54.52 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 19:55.48 | Xerophyte | Photoshopped kittens, yet still cute kittens so they're forgiven |
| 19:56.20 | mikma | hmm |
| 19:56.31 | mikma | i wonder what the guy is planning to cook today |
| 19:56.39 | mikma | that's a huge bunch of kitties |
| 19:57.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Lunch did you just add this: |
| 19:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | for buffName, index, applications, texture, rank in Aura:BuffIter("player") do |
| 19:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | if buffName == BS["Righteous Fury"] then |
| 19:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | rfOn = true |
| 19:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | break |
| 19:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | end |
| 19:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | because it looks dirty :P |
| 19:58.42 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 19:59.22 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.50 | NeoTron | or at least 5 separate kitten images - the rows of 4 kittens have dupes :) |
| 20:00.31 | RogueShadow | yeah, the dupes make it painful to look at |
| 20:00.32 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[AFK (n=Vegeta-G@xdsleq034.osnanet.de) |
| 20:01.12 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 20:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Lunch what the hell even calls :RighteousFuryBuff? can't find it anywhere |
| 20:02.52 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm think i found it |
| 20:03.21 | *** join/#wowace Viserion (n=Viserion@dial-69-55-144-36.sofnet.net) |
| 20:05.52 | Kinkx | The stars next to the names in Omen, means the info is from KTM rigth? |
| 20:06.09 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 20:06.16 | Kinkx | ok, thanks :) |
| 20:06.27 | kenlyric | so, i'm glad to see nobody listened to me and that horrible,, awful abomination was released. |
| 20:06.57 | kenlyric | making IE touch the internet is BAD. it eats babies |
| 20:07.36 | kaiden | so is firefox though in all honesty |
| 20:08.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 20:08.17 | Saint-N | which abomination? |
| 20:08.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc your forloop doesn't seem to be running |
| 20:08.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i've added a debug message to it, but it doesn't show up :P |
| 20:09.12 | kenlyric | Saint-N: the new wau. |
| 20:09.22 | kenlyric | it displays the ad in the wau client using IE. |
| 20:09.40 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[AFK (n=Vegeta-G@xdsleq034.osnanet.de) |
| 20:10.15 | krka | im in ur forloops, hiding ur debugz |
| 20:10.32 | sag_ich_nicht | krka o rly |
| 20:10.37 | krka | yarly |
| 20:10.43 | sag_ich_nicht | no wai |
| 20:10.45 | sag_ich_nicht | explain :P |
| 20:12.14 | *** join/#wowace [gk]Hotphoenix (n=blah@87.113.6.27.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) |
| 20:12.59 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, working on a wau2 embedded browser which will support FF |
| 20:13.18 | KarlThePagan | beggers can't be choosers |
| 20:13.31 | kenlyric | beggers don't want infections from IE. |
| 20:14.17 | KarlThePagan | update your ie :P |
| 20:14.39 | Saint-N | eww |
| 20:14.44 | Saint-N | new wau uses ie? |
| 20:14.52 | kenlyric | inline to display the ad. |
| 20:15.01 | KarlThePagan | embed yea |
| 20:15.03 | Saint-N | well i guess i wont have an issue since i dont have iexplore.exe on my machine anymore ;P |
| 20:15.04 | rubik | what's an ad? |
| 20:15.07 | kenlyric | which is why when you click on it open in IE. |
| 20:15.19 | sag_ich_nicht | rubik: advertisment. |
| 20:15.29 | krka | im in ur updat0rz, giving u adz |
| 20:15.37 | rubik | (lol.. sorry.. was saracastic/rhetorical question) |
| 20:16.04 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, you farm way too much lol |
| 20:16.14 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 20:16.14 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 20:16.19 | AnduinLothar | bought most of them |
| 20:16.22 | krka | im in ur firewall, blocking ur ad site |
| 20:16.23 | KarlThePagan | ah ic |
| 20:16.24 | AnduinLothar | i made 800g yesterday |
| 20:16.28 | AnduinLothar | quests |
| 20:16.30 | KarlThePagan | nice |
| 20:16.41 | kaiden | i have 1.2 levels to make 1000g ;( |
| 20:16.44 | AnduinLothar | all gone now, lol |
| 20:16.52 | AKX | Um, anyone with the US client and an MPQ extractor around? I'd like to have the US GlueXML... |
| 20:17.12 | KarlThePagan | well... i got a 4x proc off one of your mutes, so I'll send you 1 of the proc'd mights ;) |
| 20:17.20 | AnduinLothar | hot! |
| 20:17.31 | AnduinLothar | 4x? wow |
| 20:17.46 | AnduinLothar | i actually need 2 more than i sent for my tier 2 |
| 20:17.52 | AnduinLothar | but 1 is fine :) |
| 20:18.05 | AnduinLothar | i dont have the nethers yet anyway |
| 20:18.12 | AnduinLothar | those you cant rly farm |
| 20:18.19 | KarlThePagan | ping me here or in game... i need badges ;) |
| 20:18.32 | AnduinLothar | is there a tank on? |
| 20:18.33 | KarlThePagan | going to see harry potter tonight tho |
| 20:19.10 | KarlThePagan | wow... I just saw a red-skinned gold mane cat... hottest thing I've ever seen |
| 20:19.15 | AnduinLothar | ah, i have to wait for my gf to get back from ny, if she doesn't see it there with her parents |
| 20:19.17 | Fin | krka! get OUT of my FIREWALL! |
| 20:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 20:19.35 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell |
| 20:19.44 | sag_ich_nicht | krka what are you doing D: |
| 20:19.46 | rubik | <-- warrior tank |
| 20:19.53 | krka | being bored |
| 20:19.58 | krka | and being boring |
| 20:20.03 | rubik | (only up to and including karazhan, though.. in a casual guild) |
| 20:20.05 | AnduinLothar | i meant from our guild :) |
| 20:20.15 | rubik | oh.. then no.. :P |
| 20:20.23 | KarlThePagan | hey anyone on KJ would be fine ;) |
| 20:20.29 | AnduinLothar | that too |
| 20:20.30 | KarlThePagan | but I'm at work... only have enough time for 2-3 dailys |
| 20:20.53 | KarlThePagan | or leveling my warrior maybe |
| 20:20.56 | KarlThePagan | just got WW |
| 20:21.02 | kenlyric | KarlThePagan: i have that cat. |
| 20:21.13 | kenlyric | it's a level 5 or 6 cat from the BE starting area. |
| 20:21.21 | KarlThePagan | oh nice! |
| 20:21.27 | KarlThePagan | I must go tame it IMMEDIATELY |
| 20:21.36 | kenlyric | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/skins/skin_lynxskinred.shtml |
| 20:21.55 | KarlThePagan | nice |
| 20:22.03 | kenlyric | most BE hunters get the duller version, because you can get a level 9 or 10. |
| 20:22.17 | Trisorion | what cat? |
| 20:22.22 | Fin | what pc? |
| 20:22.33 | Fin | what ho! |
| 20:22.40 | *** join/#wowace omega (n=omega@numbat.inamo.no) |
| 20:22.42 | KarlThePagan | nice site |
| 20:22.44 | kenlyric | but meh, the duller version can be trained in outlands too... dime a dozen. |
| 20:22.53 | *** join/#wowace Ins- (n=sam@83.101.15.95) |
| 20:22.53 | kenlyric | I like ma kitty |
| 20:25.55 | KarlThePagan | yea I have a lv 20 hunter... won't take long to level that cat up |
| 20:26.05 | KarlThePagan | wonder if I should get a ravager tho |
| 20:26.09 | KarlThePagan | much more intimidating ;) |
| 20:26.10 | kenlyric | yes, you should. |
| 20:26.15 | kenlyric | better dps, too. |
| 20:26.26 | KarlThePagan | they're both +10% right? is gore that much better? |
| 20:26.34 | kenlyric | it's better. |
| 20:26.36 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=kaelten@69.109.103.158) |
| 20:26.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 20:26.37 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 20:26.41 | kenlyric | don't know about how much. |
| 20:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc eat faster D: |
| 20:27.52 | Kaelten | gah, me hates this mac sometimes |
| 20:28.14 | kenlyric | ravager has much lower health though. |
| 20:28.33 | kenlyric | but for pure dps, it's the best pet, apart from the bugged scorpids. |
| 20:29.45 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 20:29.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 20:32.52 | Chompers | the starting SSC trash, how do you deal with the sporebats? |
| 20:32.53 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r43519 10CraftList2/ (CraftList2.lua localization.lua): |
| 20:32.53 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 20:32.53 | CIA-22 | - added an option to print a summary locally after sending results to someone |
| 20:33.06 | NeoTron | Chompers: duck! |
| 20:33.22 | Chompers | :P |
| 20:33.27 | NeoTron | we just kill the beastmaster dude first |
| 20:33.30 | NeoTron | and then sheep them |
| 20:34.12 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I don't get how people can stand leveling with a cat. boars rule ! |
| 20:34.30 | kenlyric | I do like charge. |
| 20:34.48 | kenlyric | but, I could only get that color at level 7 :) |
| 20:35.23 | NeoTron | I bet leveling a pet from 7 to 70is a bit boring |
| 20:35.34 | kenlyric | I've heard of it. |
| 20:35.37 | kenlyric | doesn't sound fun. |
| 20:36.16 | kenlyric | boars also suck for about 16 levels, when their already crappy dps falls off. |
| 20:36.51 | kenlyric | no gore or charge at 32 and 40. |
| 20:37.54 | deltron | I love my wolf pet |
| 20:38.01 | break19_Zzz | kenlyric: ya think thats bad, imagine deciding at 70, you want a boar, for the charge... heh |
| 20:38.25 | kenlyric | that would be... strange. |
| 20:38.30 | break19 | my wife did that with her farmer. err I mean hunter |
| 20:38.31 | kenlyric | but that's only 10 levels :) |
| 20:38.49 | break19 | after about 2 days, she said 'screw this, im gettin a warp stalker' heh |
| 20:38.56 | NeoTron | I'd think at 70, a bird might be prety good for soloing |
| 20:39.06 | kenlyric | once the cat becomes an aggro machine, and gets dash, you hardly notice the difference. Except stuff dies a lot faster. |
| 20:39.34 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r43520 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: |
| 20:39.34 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 20:39.34 | CIA-22 | - frFR update |
| 20:40.16 | kenlyric | man, zul aman looks dead boring. |
| 20:40.24 | break19 | kenlyric: problem was, she wanted the pig for the instant charge... she had a bunch of people followin her around on the elemental plateau tappin mobs she'd already sent her cat towards. |
| 20:40.33 | sag_ich_nicht | wb antiarc |
| 20:40.40 | kenlyric | I could see that being a benefit. |
| 20:40.41 | Antiarc|Work | \o/ |
| 20:40.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i put a debug message into your hackish for loop Antiarc|Work |
| 20:40.47 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not getting printed |
| 20:40.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ever. |
| 20:40.52 | Antiarc|Work | Hackish? :O |
| 20:40.53 | kenlyric | ravagers need charge :) |
| 20:40.59 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Are you typing /rl with a buff on you? |
| 20:41.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: it looks hackish :P |
| 20:41.07 | Antiarc|Work | It's not hackish at all! :P |
| 20:41.08 | NeoTron | so how exactly does a prot warrior handle the inner demons on leotheras? |
| 20:41.11 | break19 | kenlyric: the warp stalker's warp is just as good, however :p |
| 20:41.14 | [dRaCo] | tap with lvl 1 arcane shot :> |
| 20:41.30 | break19 | have a priest perform an exorcism on said warrior? |
| 20:41.43 | break19 | or.. different type of 'internal demons' ? |
| 20:41.57 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 20:42.04 | sag_ich_nicht | priest's can't use exorcism |
| 20:42.06 | sag_ich_nicht | paladins kann |
| 20:42.17 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: guess you didnt get the joke |
| 20:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | break19 guess you didn't either |
| 20:42.35 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 20:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | *can |
| 20:42.42 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 20:42.48 | Xerophyte | NeoTron: Recklessness, haste potions and lowered stamina. Consider canceling stamina buffs on demon phase. Alt. have a druid tank |
| 20:42.56 | *** join/#wowace omega (i=omega@numbat.inamo.no) |
| 20:42.59 | break19 | paladins dont perform decent exorcisms on humans.. they simply can destroy the spirit of undeads faster with it |
| 20:43.01 | Ominous | whats wrong with svn checkout http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Tattle TattleWoW --ignore-externals --username alastair --password pass |
| 20:43.04 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 20:43.12 | break19 | but not rid bodies of possessed demons :p |
| 20:43.20 | NeoTron | Xerophyte: inner demons have a fixed 10k hp now |
| 20:43.21 | sag_ich_nicht | break19: Exorcism works on Demons too. |
| 20:43.34 | break19 | sag, but it doesnt work on possessed humans |
| 20:43.39 | [dRaCo] | wrong password, Ominous :þ |
| 20:43.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no, but on the demon inside! |
| 20:43.49 | sag_ich_nicht | (theoretically speaking :P) |
| 20:43.55 | Xerophyte | They do? Shows what I know :) |
| 20:43.59 | Ominous | [dRaCo] /stab! |
| 20:44.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Xerophyte i am not refering to the bossfight :P |
| 20:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 20:44.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:40] <Antiarc|Work> sag_ich_nicht: Are you typing /rl with a buff on you? <--that wouldn't show the debug message either, now would it? |
| 20:44.58 | sag_ich_nicht | also RF was off when i reloaded |
| 20:45.05 | sag_ich_nicht | so the for loop should continue until i use it |
| 20:45.06 | sag_ich_nicht | imho :P |
| 20:45.14 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: That loop won't run if there are no buffs |
| 20:45.16 | Antiarc|Work | It iterates over your buffs |
| 20:45.19 | Antiarc|Work | No buffs = no iterations |
| 20:45.36 | sag_ich_nicht | geh |
| 20:45.39 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme try |
| 20:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | okay what the hell |
| 20:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW locked my resolution down to 640x480 |
| 20:48.45 | sag_ich_nicht | and i can't alt + tab back into it |
| 20:49.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i've had this bug before |
| 20:49.05 | sag_ich_nicht | if i'll kill it |
| 20:49.16 | sag_ich_nicht | it will kill my video driver |
| 20:49.19 | sag_ich_nicht | typing blind btw. |
| 20:50.23 | NeoTron | "Two piece Warlock "Corruptor" set bonus does not work in conjunction with heal over time spells." |
| 20:50.29 | NeoTron | glad to know that's actually a bug and not a feature |
| 20:51.41 | todd | pitbull's estimated heals don't seem to take into account the curse of the deadwood debuff (reduces healing by 50%) |
| 20:52.01 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, someone should take the pet skill data from that petopia site and enter it into TrainerFu |
| 20:52.04 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 20:52.39 | kenlyric | Gore = 73.5 damage Claw = 65 damage |
| 20:52.56 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 20:53.02 | kenlyric | so, what is that, 8% dps increase? |
| 20:53.18 | KarlThePagan | plus the double damage chance on gore |
| 20:53.31 | kenlyric | well, thats with double damage averaged in. |
| 20:53.39 | KarlThePagan | ah ok |
| 20:53.49 | KarlThePagan | I'm going to exodar now to train the lv 17 ravager |
| 20:53.50 | kenlyric | it hits for 48 or 96. |
| 20:54.00 | kenlyric | (max level) |
| 20:54.05 | KarlThePagan | after taming bellygrub for gore 4 |
| 20:54.45 | KarlThePagan | but that's the kind of data that would be cool to have in trainerfu - what mobs at what level give what pet skills |
| 20:54.56 | kenlyric | last gore and charge for a while :) |
| 20:55.31 | kenlyric | http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/hunters.html is a better table of pet skills and where to get them. |
| 20:55.40 | Saint-N | KarlThePagan: so go add it ;) |
| 20:57.02 | KarlThePagan | Saint-N, yea but I should spend my time on wau2 |
| 20:57.25 | kenlyric | speaking of, I really need to get my cat the next ranks of claw and dash. |
| 20:57.34 | krka | im in ur system, iterating ur buffz |
| 20:57.47 | krka | hm, maybe time to sleep |
| 20:58.37 | Josh_Borke | go to sleep krka |
| 20:58.41 | Saint-N | KarlThePagan: you mean de-gaying it? |
| 20:58.47 | Gagorian | will %a+ work in a localized client to match a word without numbers? |
| 20:59.00 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.109.167) |
| 20:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 20:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | re |
| 20:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | >-> |
| 20:59.41 | Saint-N | i=bitch2k@ hehe change the k to a much ;) |
| 20:59.52 | KarlThePagan | Saint-N, pretty much - RCP -> Swing |
| 21:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N :P |
| 21:00.11 | ben | Is there a way to prevent whatever meters from setting my combat log range to 200? |
| 21:00.12 | sag_ich_nicht | actually that 2k doesn't stand for 2000 |
| 21:00.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:00.22 | ben | I believe it is causing quite a bit of performance trouble :( |
| 21:00.40 | KarlThePagan | ben, depends which damage meter you're using |
| 21:00.46 | Saint-N | i bitch too, k? |
| 21:00.48 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 21:00.53 | KarlThePagan | all of the ones I've seen have a preference for it |
| 21:00.56 | [dRaCo] | ben: at least recap has an option to disable that |
| 21:01.11 | fate- | ben: why do you want to change that btw? |
| 21:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N: the i= is added by freenode |
| 21:01.20 | ben | Violation/Assessment, but I put them on standby already. |
| 21:01.31 | [dRaCo] | you could as well check the source code and change the number ^^" |
| 21:01.37 | Saint-N | i know, but it does seem to fit ;) |
| 21:01.38 | ben | fate-: Because I am trying to track down while I get disconnects/freezes whenever we pull something in SSC. |
| 21:01.44 | fate- | violation lets you change the range |
| 21:03.06 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43521 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 21:03.06 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 21:03.06 | CIA-22 | - Memory usage tweak |
| 21:03.24 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43522 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: BigWigs: SC/Morogrim: change some triggers |
| 21:05.40 | sag_ich_nicht | now where was i? |
| 21:05.41 | sag_ich_nicht | oh right |
| 21:05.44 | sag_ich_nicht | that forloop. |
| 21:06.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work gimme the command for enabling debugging again, i lost it after the crash :P |
| 21:06.30 | *** join/#wowace Nosrac (n=Nosrac@static.207-5-113-88.microlnk.com) |
| 21:06.58 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.58 | Antiarc|Work | Also |
| 21:07.02 | Antiarc|Work | The reason that you aren't seeing anything |
| 21:07.08 | Antiarc|Work | Is that the loop runs before you enable debugging :P |
| 21:07.25 | Antiarc|Work | Change ThreatLib:Debug to AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print |
| 21:08.54 | ben | < fate-> violation lets you change the range <- I used /violation standby to disable it, but I still kept getting the range increase. |
| 21:09.19 | ben | Does Threat-1.0 increase the range too or something? |
| 21:09.37 | KarlThePagan | woot - enraged ravager.. back to work |
| 21:09.42 | KarlThePagan | ben, no |
| 21:09.51 | KarlThePagan | threat only records your combat actions |
| 21:11.08 | Trisorion | recount increases your combat long range |
| 21:11.10 | Xerophyte | Violation, Recount & Assesment are the mods that immediately spring to mind as messing with log range, but there are no doubt others. Any addon that needs to know what people fairly far away from you are doing is a likely culprit, really |
| 21:11.13 | Trisorion | and it has threat-1.0 |
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| 21:12.54 | KarlThePagan | DamageMeters does - it's in the context menu |
| 21:15.24 | Arrowmaster | so does SWStats and DBM i think |
| 21:15.59 | Xerophyte | Ah, yes. BigWigs has a log range option as well |
| 21:16.16 | omega | does assesment, violation and Recount all share library for parsing damage-data? ie, should they report the same DPS for instance? |
| 21:16.18 | Funkeh` | no it doesn't |
| 21:16.28 | Arrowmaster | but bigwigs doesnt change anything |
| 21:16.28 | omega | ok |
| 21:16.29 | KarlThePagan | omega, Parser-3.0 I believe |
| 21:16.36 | durcyn | Log range is a CVAR, it can be set by addons, but it is not reset when you disable or remove them. |
| 21:16.42 | Funkeh` | i removed that from bigwigs because creature range is no longer settable |
| 21:16.55 | Funkeh` | but other ranges can still be changes |
| 21:17.00 | Funkeh` | changed* |
| 21:17.10 | omega | KarlThePagan: because Violation reports 50% - 100% more that assesment |
| 21:17.13 | durcyn | or five cvars, as it were. |
| 21:17.20 | omega | and way more than sounds natural |
| 21:17.25 | Arrowmaster | more than 5 i think |
| 21:17.28 | durcyn | violation receives DMM and SWS sync data. Assessment does not. |
| 21:17.47 | omega | this is soloing, so my dps shouldn't be affected by others? |
| 21:17.49 | Funkeh` | thats quite innacurate |
| 21:17.50 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: loggerhead still can set creature range, not sure if it affects it tho. |
| 21:17.57 | Funkeh` | if you have 200 yards range turn of spying |
| 21:18.02 | Xerophyte | Funkeh: Aha, I admit I've not waded through the options in a while. Again shows what I know :) |
| 21:18.04 | Hjalte | Bigwigs error: [2007/07/11 23:10:10-1615-x1]: BigWigs\Hyjal\Archimonde.lua:157: unexpected symbol near 'if' |
| 21:18.28 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: doubtful |
| 21:19.02 | durcyn | omega: more what, dps or damage? |
| 21:19.08 | omega | dps |
| 21:19.13 | durcyn | dps is totally arbitrary and measured differently by different addons |
| 21:19.27 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43523 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Archimonde: bugfix |
| 21:19.28 | Funkeh` | Hjalte: fixed |
| 21:19.39 | Arrowmaster | ~seen nymbia |
| 21:20.06 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 21m ago, saying: '~literal ckknight'. |
| 21:20.06 | Hjalte | Funkeh`, you're the man. |
| 21:20.14 | durcyn | it could be anything from total damange divided by total time in combat, to a rolling X-second average... dps means nothing, literally. |
| 21:20.15 | Funkeh` | Hjalte: im a woman |
| 21:20.42 | Hjalte | Funkeh`, no you're not. |
| 21:20.49 | Funkeh` | Hjalte: bah :/ |
| 21:20.53 | KarlThePagan | omega, something to consider - one might record your personal dps from only the time spanning the beginning -> end of your actions, while the other might record your damage done vs total time spent in ccombat |
| 21:21.02 | KarlThePagan | both are valid but different ways to measure dps |
| 21:21.30 | Arrowmaster | DamageMeters measures dps as total damage divided by the total time spent in combat, so it should have the lowest numbers of any addon |
| 21:21.50 | Arrowmaster | no clue how others do it |
| 21:22.05 | KarlThePagan | from a group perspective that might be the "correct" way to do it |
| 21:22.10 | Arrowmaster | but i know violation always showed mine around 1000dps and others much lower |
| 21:22.28 | KarlThePagan | it's debatable ;) |
| 21:23.11 | break19 | i wish i could approach 1k dps.. i need better gear. heh |
| 21:23.12 | KarlThePagan | I think Wow Web Stats has some kind of 3-second rule which determines your "dps presence" and so it actually only measures the time you are active |
| 21:23.19 | durcyn | or you could write it off as meaningless |
| 21:23.22 | durcyn | which it is |
| 21:23.40 | KarlThePagan | meaningless until you participate in fights like Magtheridon |
| 21:23.41 | break19 | omega: violation shows *my* dps as just over 500+ |
| 21:23.54 | Arrowmaster | WWS still seems to show a little low i think |
| 21:24.43 | durcyn | KarlThePagan: what? magtheridon isn't a dps race. akama and kazrogal come to mind. |
| 21:25.15 | Xerophyte | Low for what? Mathematically, your dps is 0 except for when an ability hits, when it is undefined. Putting that on a dps counter would be rather uninformative, so addons pick an arbitrary window to measure damage in. Some take the last few seconds, some since the start of the last fight |
| 21:25.39 | fate- | is incubator maintainer here? |
| 21:25.42 | KarlThePagan | durcyn, you missed my point - magtheridon forces players to stop dps - meaning comparing players based on their damage output over the total fight length is an inaccurate comparison... 10-15 players will not have 100% dps presence because they're clicking |
| 21:26.33 | durcyn | KarlThePagan: oh, yes. but the epeen-meters keep ticking. |
| 21:27.19 | KarlThePagan | exactly why the "dps presence" stat in WWS is valuable to evaluating your group members actual participation |
| 21:28.03 | KarlThePagan | my dps on that fight is still "low" - it's not comparable to rogues or mages because I keep my dots ticking while i move away to clik |
| 21:29.28 | durcyn | which is precisely why any kind of ratio to damage/time is less useful than total damage done |
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| 21:30.27 | KarlThePagan | i disagree - but both total damage done and dps comparisons in magtheridon both paint an incomplete picture of a player's fight participation - because it is a technical fight |
| 21:30.36 | KarlThePagan | err technical/interactive w/e fight |
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| 21:31.17 | durcyn | perhaps, but when i, as an affliction warlock, outdamage mages whose 'dps' number is higher, then i don't think the statistic means fuck-all |
| 21:31.59 | KarlThePagan | that's your problem... it's an epeen thing, rather than actually being about evaluating individual participating and such |
| 21:32.11 | KarlThePagan | i.e. picking who comes to the next raid |
| 21:32.35 | durcyn | but that's exactly what it's about - which number is used to get my ass in the next raid or not |
| 21:33.24 | KarlThePagan | why pick one number over another? why not use all data available and use the space between your ears? I hope you guild officers do just that ;) |
| 21:36.12 | Antiarc|Work | DPS meters tell me that I did 40% of my Karazhan group's damage last night. |
| 21:36.14 | Antiarc|Work | >_< |
| 21:36.30 | KarlThePagan | :D |
| 21:36.30 | Antiarc|Work | Undergeared and underskilled pickups for the lose. |
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| 21:37.20 | Chompers | kara pickups :O |
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| 21:37.54 | Antiarc|Work | It's not really a pickup group so much as a group that has had a bunch of people just stop showing up, so we end up filling it with the dregs from the bottom of the barrel. |
| 21:38.01 | Antiarc|Work | Pretty demoralizing. |
| 21:38.02 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 21:38.26 | Antiarc|Work | When it's a wipe because your rogue (me) dies on a boss, because the group doesn't have the DPS to kill him otherwise, there is a problem :x |
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| 21:39.31 | Xerophyte | That's, what, 1k dps from you and 400ish average from the other dps'ers? Impressive, in many ways. |
| 21:39.59 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, around that. |
| 21:40.14 | Antiarc|Work | We had an elemental shaman doing about 280 DPS. |
| 21:40.15 | Antiarc|Work | It was unreal. |
| 21:40.23 | NightHawkAtWork | o_0 |
| 21:40.24 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think I've topped out at 280 DPS since like level 30. |
| 21:40.28 | NightHawkAtWork | how is that even possible? |
| 21:40.42 | NightHawkAtWork | my resto shaman does better dps than that just grinding |
| 21:40.44 | Antiarc|Work | Hitting a button once every 30 seconds? |
| 21:40.53 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/10/will-it-blend-the-iphone-smoothie/ :O |
| 21:41.05 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: seen it. good stuff. :) |
| 21:41.25 | Higdur | my wand does 160dps |
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| 21:41.59 | Cotan_ | I was going to comment but 280 is higher then my normal boss dps |
| 21:42.14 | Cotan_ | as MT, and only by 25 dps or so |
| 21:42.25 | Antiarc|Work | Our MT out-DPSed a hunter and elemental shaman. |
| 21:42.36 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, and 7 of the 10 in the group had under 8k HP buffed. |
| 21:42.38 | Higdur | good stuff |
| 21:42.45 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously, it's like slamming my face in a door. :( |
| 21:42.46 | Cotan_ | I don't have a kara wws, I'm looking at a few ssc kills |
| 21:42.59 | Cotan_ | I bet in kara with pure block gear I'd beat it |
| 21:43.49 | Cotan_ | my goal next week is to beat half of our dpsers on the spitfire totem |
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| 21:45.34 | Saint-N | that guys got a pretty awesome blender |
| 21:45.47 | Saint-N | i bet hamster smoothies come out smoooooooooooooooooooooooooooth |
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| 21:46.49 | Coruss | Antiarc|Work: what server are you on? |
| 21:47.08 | Antiarc|Work | Cenarion Circle US |
| 21:47.25 | Coruss | alliance/horde? |
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| 21:47.46 | Antiarc|Work | alliance |
| 21:47.55 | Coruss | okie |
| 21:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | why? |
| 21:48.05 | Saint-N | so the marriage is a shame and the kids adopted? |
| 21:48.10 | Coruss | just curious |
| 21:48.15 | Saint-N | cuz everyone knows only homo's play alliance ;P |
| 21:48.21 | Saint-N | shame == sham |
| 21:48.35 | Antiarc|Work | My wife will sure be surprised! |
| 21:48.43 | Saint-N | Antiarc|Work: only once ;) |
| 21:48.54 | Coruss | I've seen some pretty poor players on Silver Hand, but that little ditty... well sucks |
| 21:48.56 | durcyn | damn, i had no idea i was gay until some 13-year-old on the internet reminded me. |
| 21:48.56 | Chompers | i'm no homo! |
| 21:49.27 | Saint-N | durcyn: was that before or after the news crew caught you at his house? |
| 21:49.30 | sdouble | whew, close one durcyn. You might have done something crazy had he not told you. |
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| 21:50.14 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: I think there are poor players everywhere, really. |
| 21:50.42 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 21:50.46 | Chompers | hey ckknight |
| 21:50.50 | sdouble | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.56 | sdouble | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.17 | Coruss | Antiarc|Work agreed, just sucks when ya run into them |
| 21:55.20 | Coruss | so how did you folks get started in writing addons? |
| 21:55.45 | Mikk | my guild needed a zerosum dkp auction mod |
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| 21:57.03 | Coruss | so basically a loot tracker |
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| 21:58.48 | Coruss | ya, I'm curious, I kinda want to get into addon writing, but I haven't been able to think of any addons that aren't already out there |
| 21:59.24 | Coruss | or anything I need that isn't already there |
| 21:59.25 | Kyahx | Coruss: start simple, even if it's already been done |
| 21:59.28 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43526 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:59.28 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 21:59.28 | CIA-22 | - Multiple bug fixes |
| 21:59.37 | Kyahx | Make a chat mod -- mouse wheel scrool, hide buttons, etc.... |
| 21:59.38 | Mikk | and then, helping others improve their addons is a Good Thing |
| 21:59.41 | Kyahx | scroll* |
| 21:59.47 | Coruss | the only decent idea I've come up with so far was a gui for creating macros |
| 22:00.15 | Coruss | since I just tried to muddle through making a few macros last night, and setting the conditionals got a little painful |
| 22:00.25 | Coruss | bbiab, meeting at work |
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| 22:01.01 | ben | Speaking of which, are there addons that allow me to have more than the default amount of macros? |
| 22:02.02 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r43527 10Tattle/data.lua: Tattle: dataminer ran |
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| 22:03.28 | Trancer | hmm |
| 22:03.33 | Trancer | you can no longer sneak behind morogrimm |
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| 22:06.57 | Arrowmaster | Trancer: are you sure? |
| 22:07.45 | Trancer | hmmh weird situation |
| 22:07.53 | Trancer | we sneaked up behind him and a pack of 5 naga's came out of the hallway |
| 22:07.57 | Trancer | just like that |
| 22:08.01 | Trancer | when we wiped, they despawned |
| 22:08.07 | Arrowmaster | odd |
| 22:08.35 | Arrowmaster | theres a naga pack that patrols that hallway and comes right up to the doorway |
| 22:08.46 | lordp | Tidewalker? |
| 22:08.57 | Trancer | yeah Arrowmaster, thats till there |
| 22:09.13 | ben | We just snuck behind Morogrim and killed him |
| 22:09.16 | Trancer | no problem now |
| 22:09.19 | ben | and did not kill any Murlocs |
| 22:09.21 | ben | err |
| 22:09.22 | ben | Nagas |
| 22:09.40 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43528 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: - Added "Windfury" key for the windfury weapon buff name on the weapon tooltip, plus deDE and frFR localizations |
| 22:09.47 | Arrowmaster | you dont kill the group in the hallway? |
| 22:10.08 | lordp | there's a few patrols by each entrance to his room that despawn when you aggro him, they come back after 2 hours |
| 22:10.28 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 22:11.00 | ben | Oh, right. We have a rogue run up to him, shoot him and vanish. |
| 22:11.06 | ben | That probably causes the respawns. |
| 22:11.12 | ben | despawns even. >:( |
| 22:11.25 | lordp | yeah, we've got a druid doing that |
| 22:11.56 | Trancer | we just kill them |
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| 22:16.16 | CIA-22 | 03boydon 07Boydon * r43529 10SmartQueue/SmartQueue/: |
| 22:16.16 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 22:16.17 | CIA-22 | - setting externals |
| 22:18.03 | Ominous | how many servers are there in total eu + us |
| 22:19.44 | Coruss | back |
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| 22:20.59 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43530 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: trigger changes |
| 22:21.00 | CIA-22 | 03boydon 07Boydon * r43531 10SmartQueue/SmartQueue/: |
| 22:21.00 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 22:21.00 | CIA-22 | - fixing AbacusLib external |
| 22:21.54 | break19 | Not just bored... Uberbored? |
| 22:22.07 | break19 | "why yes, mr break, I am" |
| 22:22.11 | break19 | good. then I'm not the only one. |
| 22:22.21 | CIA-22 | 03cpickslay * r43532 10ShardStatus/ (. ShardStatus.lua ShardStatus.toc ShardStatus.xml): ShardStatus: initial import |
| 22:23.46 | break19 | but, i sense a change.. i smell red beans n rice... food trumps boredom. yay |
| 22:23.55 | Ominous | was thinking of setting up a weekly full update to all of tattle, good idea or not? |
| 22:26.01 | Chompers | +EU? |
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| 22:28.57 | BankZ | Does PProvost every come here |
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| 22:29.06 | BankZ | Violation_EffectiveHealing doesnt work :( |
| 22:30.22 | Ominous | Chompers: yes =P |
| 22:35.02 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r43533 10oRA2/Textures/otravi-recycle.tga: oRA2: Better-looking refresh button |
| 22:35.25 | CIA-22 | 03boydon 07Boydon * r43534 10SmartQueue/SmartQueue/SmartQueue.toc: |
| 22:35.25 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 22:35.26 | CIA-22 | - BGTools.toc -> SmartQueue.toc |
| 22:36.48 | Trisorion | why does pitbull's menu change every time I update it.... |
| 22:36.54 | Fin | it's been updated |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-22 | 03boydon 07Boydon * r43535 10SmartQueue/SmartQueue/BGTools.toc: |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-22 | - I should learn not to manualy delete files... |
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| 22:38.24 | Reality_ | hm |
| 22:38.28 | Trisorion | Do any of you know if the bug in omen where mages would retain thier aggro across fights is fixed? |
| 22:39.48 | Xerophyte | I had that problem with a shaman yesterday, actually. I suspect he wasn't up to date, but 's not just a mage problem. Which isn't answering your question at all, really, but still :p |
| 22:40.08 | Fin | Trisorion: http://files.wowace.com/Omen/ |
| 22:41.28 | Trisorion | fin what does that tell me? |
| 22:42.42 | kergoth | i'm betting thats telling you to read the changelogs. |
| 22:42.59 | Trisorion | ~kergoth |
| 22:43.00 | purl | i guess kergoth is Chris Larson, a software engineer working for MontaVista in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM nazi, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. |
| 22:43.01 | Ominous | should be http://files.wowace.com/Threat-1.0/ tho |
| 22:43.19 | Trisorion | Yep that seems accurate |
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| 22:43.54 | Ominous | rofl what did kergoth do... |
| 22:44.12 | kergoth | nothing worthy of the bot's warning, that's certain |
| 22:44.15 | kergoth | i've been pretty tame lately |
| 22:44.22 | kergoth | maybe i'm getting.. *shudder*.. "nice" in my old age |
| 22:44.36 | Ominous | :D |
| 22:45.00 | Ominous | i actually meant why was Trisorion agreeing with the warning |
| 22:46.20 | Ominous | also for my weekly tattle dataminer running what should the commit message be? "Tattle: dataminer ran" is what it is atm |
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| 22:46.53 | ckknight | kergoth: no, you can't be! |
| 22:46.56 | ckknight | it's not you! |
| 22:47.06 | kergoth | :'( |
| 22:47.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:47.37 | Ominous | ~whaleslap Kergoth |
| 22:47.38 | purl | ACTION beats Kergoth upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:47.52 | Ominous | there slapped you back you ur old self |
| 22:48.44 | kergoth | Hugh! |
| 22:50.24 | Trisorion | in the past couple days there have been 200 changes to Threat-1.0 im never gonna find this lol |
| 22:50.36 | NightHawkAtWork | ctrl-f is your friend |
| 22:50.52 | Trisorion | I dont have a word to search |
| 22:50.54 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43536 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 22:50.54 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 22:50.54 | CIA-22 | - Fixed more bugs |
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| 22:51.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Then again, I'm not sure how good the commit messages on threat have been, so that may not even be useful |
| 22:51.59 | Mikk | "bugfix" |
| 22:52.00 | Mikk | "fix a bug" |
| 22:52.16 | Megalon | "fixed a bug, stupid me" |
| 22:52.39 | CIA-22 | 03boydon 07Boydon * r43537 10SmartQueue/SmartQueue/SmartQueue.toc: |
| 22:52.39 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 22:52.39 | CIA-22 | - some changes to the .toc |
| 22:53.05 | Xerophyte | It's hard to tell if some of the more detailed ones could be related to the problem, as well. For example: "Fixed all calls to ModifyThreat to not pass self as a parameter. Added a check to ModifyThreat to ensure that the same mistake isn't made again." |
| 22:53.07 | Ominous | Mikk: i had to re compile and install the svn you put on my server as you didnt do svn-deps as well :) so i couldnt checkout from wowace.com from server |
| 22:55.03 | Trisorion | mikk ive been told you arent the guy from MSBT |
| 22:55.06 | Trisorion | so who are you? |
| 22:55.21 | Antiarc|Work | Trisorion: That's not fixed yet |
| 22:55.21 | Trisorion | ~mikk |
| 22:55.22 | purl | i guess mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 22:55.24 | Antiarc|Work | The mage bug |
| 22:55.32 | Trisorion | ah, have you found what it is |
| 22:55.32 | Antiarc|Work | Gonna try to figure it out tonight |
| 22:55.35 | Antiarc|Work | No, not yet. |
| 22:55.55 | Trisorion | awesome great work so far |
| 22:56.12 | Antiarc|Work | Trisorion: Question: Have you seen it ever happen before using Invis in a session? |
| 22:56.49 | Trisorion | a session meaning a fight or the entire time ive been logged on |
| 22:56.54 | Xerophyte | Antiarc: Reiterating, had an elemental shaman do what seemed to be the exact same thing on a Lurker round yesterday. Started one fight with 100kish threat, presumably carried over. Didn't get his revision, 'cos I suck. |
| 22:58.02 | Antiarc|Work | Entire time you've been logged on |
| 22:58.09 | Antiarc|Work | Xerophyte: Ooh, it happened with a shaman? |
| 22:58.17 | Trisorion | I havent payed attention- but ill check tonight |
| 22:58.22 | Antiarc|Work | First time I've heard of it happening with a non-mage. |
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| 22:58.43 | Xerophyte | Fairly sure it did, yes. Something made him start a fight with a very large threat figure, at any rate |
| 22:58.56 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, that's the same bug. |
| 22:59.01 | Antiarc|Work | I -might- know what it is then. |
| 22:59.18 | Trisorion | does it have somethign to do with if they are uning ktm and you are using omen? |
| 22:59.18 | Antiarc|Work | Though I'd expect hunters/rogues to see it often, too. hrm. |
| 22:59.26 | Antiarc|Work | I wouldn't expect so, no. |
| 22:59.39 | Xerophyte | In this case the shaman was running Omen |
| 23:01.31 | Trisorion | do shamans have ANY aggro dump/reduction abilities? |
| 23:01.42 | Xerophyte | Ankh! :p |
| 23:02.04 | Antiarc|Work | Ankh, yeah. |
| 23:02.05 | KarlThePagan | they have a 10% reduction |
| 23:02.12 | KarlThePagan | if elemental |
| 23:02.16 | KarlThePagan | enh have none |
| 23:02.18 | Antiarc|Work | 15% to melee, spirit weapons. |
| 23:02.21 | KarlThePagan | oh right |
| 23:02.23 | KarlThePagan | my bad lol |
| 23:02.43 | Xerophyte | There's wierd and wonky stuff with the extra lightning bolt talent too - half threat or somesuch? |
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| 23:02.48 | flexom | ohhh, any chance of getting tabbed conversations in cellular^^ |
| 23:03.41 | Trisorion | Any general use mods I should check out trying new ones today |
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| 23:04.22 | ckknight | Trisorion: well, there's a bunch of useful mods |
| 23:04.58 | Antiarc|Work | Xerophyte: Just the Lightning Capacitor lightning bolts. |
| 23:05.48 | Hohal | motd |
| 23:06.02 | Droolio | ckknight: have u been able to track down that AceComm serialisation bug for custom channels? |
| 23:06.17 | ckknight | oh, yea, but then got distracted by the website crashing |
| 23:07.46 | Droolio | aha |
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| 23:10.34 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43538 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 23:10.34 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 23:10.34 | CIA-22 | - Rounding fix for hit percentages |
| 23:11.11 | Chompers | Gagorian: did you get my 'hit' related error? |
| 23:11.17 | Chompers | not sure if you saw it |
| 23:12.22 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2241 - this is beyond hilarious. |
| 23:14.36 | Margus | japanese school girls = freaks |
| 23:17.15 | Gagorian | Chompers: Probably, try it :p |
| 23:18.43 | Ominous | if you have a cron job running is there a way to view its output since the start but before the end when the output is e-mailed to you? |
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| 23:19.33 | charon | Ominous: not as such, but you could modify crontab to tee output to a logfile |
| 23:20.00 | physos | Ominous: one way would be to use |tee outputfile| in the pipe or the script run by cron |
| 23:20.11 | Ominous | charon: you mean by changing the command to file.sh > file.txt |
| 23:20.45 | charon | no, as physos said, do something like 2>&1 | tee logfile |
| 23:21.07 | CIA-22 | 03gits * r43539 10ItemsInEnglish/ (. ItemsInEnglish.toc core.lua itemlist.lua libs/): |
| 23:21.07 | CIA-22 | ItemsInEnglish: initial commit |
| 23:21.07 | CIA-22 | - Display item names in english under the original name. (actually 22259 items) |
| 23:22.31 | ckknight | I still don't get what ItemsInEnglish does |
| 23:22.44 | ckknight | Guillotine: ? |
| 23:23.01 | Guillotine | sorry, suppose I should leave these channels. Trying to break clad's luabot |
| 23:23.09 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:23.29 | nevcairiel | ckknight: it displays the english name of a item based on the item id :P |
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| 23:23.44 | sag_ich_nicht | 3 words: |
| 23:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ALOFT IS AWESOME |
| 23:24.05 | Mudkips | how so? |
| 23:24.12 | sag_ich_nicht | it just is |
| 23:24.13 | sag_ich_nicht | try it out |
| 23:24.35 | Mudkips | All I know of is that it clears out the frame from the HP bars above mobs |
| 23:25.24 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43540 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ThreatClassModuleCore.lua credits.txt): Threat-1.0: Removed PLAYER_ALIVE and PLAYER_UNGHOST as registrations for PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED. May fix problems with "stuck" transactions and mage threat. PLAYER_DEAD remains a registration for it, however. |
| 23:27.10 | CIA-22 | 03gits * r43541 10ItemsInEnglish/: ItemsInEnglish: externals |
| 23:28.41 | ckknight | if I were to make a game to be localized, I'd totally have the backend all completely in English, then only turn it to localized at the very end once it's shown |
| 23:29.15 | Chompers | ckknight is going to make his own WoW |
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| 23:29.21 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:29.21 | Chompers | just you wait |
| 23:29.51 | Margus | ckknight: just wanted to tell you that cowtip works fine now :D |
| 23:29.55 | Antiarc|Work | WoWWoW. It'll addict your mans. $$$. |
| 23:29.59 | ckknight | Margus: :-) |
| 23:30.01 | Coruss | isn't that how WoW works already? |
| 23:30.05 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc|Work |
| 23:30.10 | ckknight | Coruss: not in the slightest |
| 23:30.11 | Coruss | all the backend is id tags |
| 23:30.14 | Chompers | call it Sausage |
| 23:30.27 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: Not the API available to mod authors |
| 23:30.29 | Ani| | i've wrote ItemsInEnglish just because I allway look at wowhead for some details, quests etc. but I want the questlog itself in my mother tongue |
| 23:30.37 | Antiarc|Work | We have to do all kinds of funky localization crap :P |
| 23:30.47 | Margus | ^^ |
| 23:30.50 | Coruss | aah |
| 23:31.03 | Coruss | ya by backend I was thinking more along the lines of item ids, player ids, etc |
| 23:31.16 | Coruss | i.e. database stuff |
| 23:31.24 | Antiarc|Work | Well, that's generally locale-independent |
| 23:31.32 | ckknight | well, depending. |
| 23:31.36 | ckknight | the ids and such are independent |
| 23:31.42 | ckknight | but if you use the API, it will return localized |
| 23:31.51 | ckknight | I'd prefer if it returned minimally English + localized |
| 23:32.10 | Antiarc|Work | What'd be the better solution, IMO, would be to pass IDs with localized strings. For example, UnitName("target") might return the localized string and an unlocalized identifier |
| 23:32.19 | Antiarc|Work | Which would make things approximately a billion times easier |
| 23:32.33 | Antiarc|Work | Kinda how UnitClass() does |
| 23:32.39 | Antiarc|Work | Wish they'd do that for more stuff. |
| 23:32.45 | Coruss | aaah |
| 23:33.01 | Margus | good night guys! |
| 23:33.10 | Antiarc|Work | For example, in Threat, I have to jump through all kinds of crazy hoops to make sure that cross-locale groups can share target threat data. |
| 23:33.24 | Coruss | I guess the reasoning behind it is that the addon scripts are being run by the client |
| 23:33.27 | Antiarc|Work | If I had a common identifier that could be used to identify a particular mob name, it'd be a ton easier. |
| 23:33.38 | CIA-22 | 03boydon 07Boydon * r43542 10SmartQueue/SmartQueue/SmartQueue.toc: |
| 23:33.38 | CIA-22 | SmartQueue: |
| 23:33.38 | CIA-22 | - some others minor changes |
| 23:33.39 | Antiarc|Work | Well, but addon scripts generally have to work with multiple clients. |
| 23:33.43 | Coruss | ya |
| 23:33.55 | Garoun|Loupana | grr Bulkmail2 inbox locked up wow when trying to do Take all Cash |
| 23:34.33 | Antiarc|Work | BulkMail grinds my system to a halt when shift is down with the mailbox open |
| 23:34.38 | Antiarc|Work | Like, we're talking 3-5 FPS |
| 23:34.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work |
| 23:34.56 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: |
| 23:34.58 | sag_ich_nicht | was too lazy to continue debugging |
| 23:34.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43543 10Parrot/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - add options. |
| 23:35.05 | Antiarc|Work | Now you know how I feel! :D |
| 23:35.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not really |
| 23:35.19 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh |
| 23:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | my PC crashed |
| 23:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | which stopped my work flow |
| 23:35.28 | Antiarc|Work | Back to work, slacker! |
| 23:35.28 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 23:35.31 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 23:35.33 | Antiarc|Work | Mush! Mush! |
| 23:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | to sleep |
| 23:35.37 | sag_ich_nicht | have to stand up in 4 hours |
| 23:35.37 | Antiarc|Work | No sleep! |
| 23:35.41 | sag_ich_nicht | have to stand up in 4 hours |
| 23:35.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43544 10Parrot/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - Expression -> Suppression. Whoops. |
| 23:35.49 | sag_ich_nicht | did you fix it already or should i continue to debug it tomorrow? :P |
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| 23:35.55 | Garoun|Loupana | it's usually pretty good, I've had issues where hitting Grab all selected, I have to hit it after every item :P but first time crashing |
| 23:36.16 | Antiarc|Work | I'll fix it tonight |
| 23:36.29 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: is something wrong with the omen aggro gain bars? |
| 23:36.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43545 10Parrot/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - blank suppressions do nothing |
| 23:36.36 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Not to my knowledge, why? |
| 23:36.46 | Arrowmaster | i cant get them to show up |
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| 23:37.29 | sag_ich_nicht | If anyone sees Roartindon could you ask him if he can create a 1:1 look alike of the text that floats above the heads of people by default in Aloft? |
| 23:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | that would enable addons like SCT to still anchor the frame while looking like the frame isn't there. |
| 23:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 23:38.08 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: a) the option to show them is on, and b) the enemy you're targeting has a friendly target? |
| 23:38.11 | sag_ich_nicht | -anchor +attach to |
| 23:38.30 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: option is enabled, and im targetting a hostile mob |
| 23:38.39 | Antiarc|Work | Is the hostile mob targeting anyone? |
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| 23:39.03 | Antiarc|Work | Oooh. |
| 23:39.13 | Antiarc|Work | Right. I'll bet I broke that yesterday. |
| 23:39.13 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone willing to deliver that request? :P |
| 23:39.14 | Antiarc|Work | Sec. |
| 23:39.24 | Arrowmaster | ive actually not seen it for a while |
| 23:39.41 | Antiarc|Work | No, that should be fine. |
| 23:39.44 | Antiarc|Work | o.0 |
| 23:39.46 | Antiarc|Work | It works fine for me... |
| 23:39.51 | Antiarc|Work | Try toggling the option off/on? |
| 23:39.56 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 23:39.57 | Arrowmaster | i have been |
| 23:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | since i get no answer |
| 23:40.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll just head to bed |
| 23:40.06 | sag_ich_nicht | good night :O |
| 23:40.16 | Arrowmaster | also the % is always --.- |
| 23:40.31 | Antiarc|Work | Which %? |
| 23:40.35 | Antiarc|Work | On the aggro bar? |
| 23:40.38 | beerke | anyone experiencing gui lag when people join and leave raid ? |
| 23:40.40 | Arrowmaster | on all bars |
| 23:40.54 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, that indicates that it can't find anyone holding aggro. |
| 23:40.55 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
| 23:41.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:40] <beerke> anyone experiencing gui lag when people join and leave raid ? <--it's called HOLY FUCK BLIZZARD CAN'T CODE |
| 23:41.07 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 23:41.09 | sag_ich_nicht | good night. |
| 23:41.51 | Antiarc|Work | The only way that'd be able to happen is if the aggro bar were never created... |
| 23:42.08 | Antiarc|Work | And that happens on Fully Initialized |
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| 23:42.55 | Antiarc|Work | Do me a favor and /dump Omen.AggroBar.unitname |
| 23:43.37 | Arrowmaster | sec dead |
| 23:43.52 | Arrowmaster | nil |
| 23:44.10 | Arrowmaster | AggroBar doesnt exist |
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| 23:44.31 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. Wonder if you have another addon that hijacked AceEvent_FullyInitialized... |
| 23:44.37 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.41 | Antiarc|Work | See if that fixes it for you |
| 23:44.45 | Arrowmaster | oh lol |
| 23:44.51 | Arrowmaster | im using AddonLoader |
| 23:44.58 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that'll do it. |
| 23:45.12 | Antiarc|Work | I can fix that |
| 23:45.14 | Arrowmaster | might want to remove that LoadManager stuff then |
| 23:45.45 | Arrowmaster | rolf another fugly horse mount |
| 23:46.22 | Nosrac | If anyone's up for proof that Koreans are crazy check this Youtube video out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X76ZIGQgBWg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbestofyoutube%2Ecom%2F |
| 23:46.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43546 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Run AceEvent_FullyInitialized() OnEnable if it wasn't run before (hooray load managers?) |
| 23:46.42 | Arrowmaster | ROFL |
| 23:47.04 | Ominous | Fin: TS? |
| 23:47.06 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43547 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid: koKR Update |
| 23:47.27 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: checking AceEvent:IsFullyInitialized()? |
| 23:47.57 | Antiarc|Work | No, just checking for the existance of self.AggroBar, which only gets created from the AceEvent_FullyInitialized handler |
| 23:48.02 | Antiarc|Work | Probably should though |
| 23:48.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43548 10Parrot/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - bugfix in the menu |
| 23:48.43 | ckknight | I'd do it the proper way |
| 23:48.44 | Antiarc|Work | if not self.AggroBar and AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):IsFullyInitialized() then ... end ? |
| 23:49.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43549 10Parrot/ (Parrot.toc Triggers.lua): Parrot - add Triggers.lua, does nothing currently. |
| 23:49.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r43550 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Make sure we're fully initted before manually calling init. |
| 23:49.29 | syeren | ckknight. is Parrot in Beta yet? |
| 23:50.26 | Arrowmaster | Fiery Warhorse's Reins just droped and everybody rolled then we all kept passing and had to find somebody to take |
| 23:51.05 | ckknight | syeren: no, once Triggers is done, it will be, basically |
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| 23:53.22 | Antiarc|Work | 2.1.3 bug: "Critical strike damage reduction percentage gained from resilience rating increases as the attacking player gains more +critical strike damage bonus talents." |
| 23:53.34 | Antiarc|Work | Man, that explains why I was sucking ass last night against high-resilience targets |
| 23:53.37 | Antiarc|Work | Moreso than usual. |
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| 23:53.48 | Antiarc|Work | - Cyclone can prevent a player from receiving battleground marks when the battleground ends. |
| 23:53.52 | Antiarc|Work | Go forth and abuse, my brethren. |
| 23:54.29 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 23:54.30 | Guillotine | wow |
| 23:54.46 | Coruss | lol |
| 23:54.48 | Guillotine | I think I'm going to do some AB with my addon that shows time left til the end ';..;' |
| 23:54.53 | Antiarc|Work | - If a character with immunity (ice block, divine protection) resists a mass dispel, the immunity effect is still removed. |
| 23:55.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43551 10Parrot/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - refresh Waterfall on text change. It's still broken, though, but I blame Waterfall-1.0, then. |
| 23:57.00 | Coruss | hooray hometime, later folks |
| 23:57.17 | Antiarc|Work | - The heal proc from the Battlemaster enchant knocks partied characters out of stealth. |
| 23:57.19 | Antiarc|Work | ...................... |
| 23:57.28 | Nosrac | >< |
| 23:57.32 | Nosrac | that's gay... |
| 23:57.44 | Coruss | bah... one more way blizz screws rogues |
| 23:58.06 | ckknight | Nosrac: NO U |
| 23:58.13 | Nosrac | No me? |
| 23:58.18 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 23:58.23 | Antiarc|Work | - Pets who are currently desummoned from mounting when a battleground ends will be lost after leaving the battleground. |
| 23:58.24 | Antiarc|Work | O_O |
| 23:58.42 | Nosrac | o.O |
| 23:59.09 | Chompers | what?! |
| 23:59.28 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, so, uh, don't mount up, hunters. |
