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| 00:07.46 | binder | I love melee drdamage |
| 00:08.17 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r43334 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 00:08.17 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 00:08.18 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 00:13.12 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:13.44 | binder | hi ck |
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| 00:14.04 | Ominous | ckknight: hey |
| 00:14.06 | Neebler | does anyone here use fubar_poisonfu? |
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| 00:14.25 | RogueShadow | wooo ck! |
| 00:14.30 | binder | hmm |
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| 00:14.35 | RogueShadow | No. :( |
| 00:14.48 | binder | I've told drdamage to update based on the +block stuff I have on doesn't seem to be working |
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| 00:22.08 | Ra1d3n | * r43299 | antiarc | 2007-07-09 15:13:09 -0400 (Mon, 09 Jul 2007) | 1 line |
| 00:22.08 | Ra1d3n | * Threat-1.0: Removed "Judgment of Blood" - NPC spell? |
| 00:22.21 | Ra1d3n | Its the horde version of Judgement of vengeance |
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| 00:22.32 | Ra1d3n | pls correct |
| 00:22.34 | Ra1d3n | :) |
| 00:22.57 | Ra1d3n | i guess antiarc plays alliance :) |
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| 00:26.39 | Ra1d3n | it is the judgement of the following seal: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31892#00z |
| 00:27.09 | Ra1d3n | still anyone awake? (its 2am here) |
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| 00:29.22 | durcyn | it's always morning on irc |
| 00:29.33 | Ra1d3n | yeah i know |
| 00:29.34 | Ra1d3n | :) |
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| 00:30.45 | Blackout | any admins on ? |
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| 00:33.18 | Ominous | is there a way to convert from google cache into wiki? |
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| 00:33.40 | Nosrac | Ominous yes... one sec and i'll find you a link |
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| 00:34.10 | Nosrac | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rebuilding |
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| 00:35.22 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43336 10beql/locales/localization-ru.lua: beql: - Updated ruRU locale |
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| 00:37.03 | sylvanaar | what the deal with the join spam |
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| 00:37.20 | nymbia | ;) |
| 00:37.20 | Nosrac | Dunno |
| 00:37.27 | Nosrac | Hi Nymbia! |
| 00:37.33 | nymbia | WHERE? |
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| 00:37.39 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 00:38.01 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r43337 10cgProfiler/ (cgProfiler.toc raids/raids.lua): cgProfiler: added datestamping to raid attempts |
| 00:38.03 | sylvanaar | i want a +, i am having a bad day |
| 00:39.43 | Blackout | any admins on ? |
| 00:41.49 | Gagorian- | break19: Yes, I am |
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| 00:45.10 | Blackout | http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/wikify/ |
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| 00:46.19 | Wobwork | woo |
| 00:46.40 | Blackout | hope that makes things easier |
| 00:46.57 | Ewal | blackout: nice |
| 00:47.10 | Blackout | could also automate it to fetch a whole dump of urls at once and insert into a DB if needed |
| 00:47.24 | Blackout | or write the SQL to a file etc |
| 00:47.34 | Nosrac | When creating a command in AceConsole if for 'range' you want there to be no maximum how can you do it? (or should i just put 99999)? |
| 00:47.38 | Ominous | kaelten: you around? |
| 00:47.54 | Kaelten | not really |
| 00:47.56 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 00:48.17 | Ominous | kaelten: while the website is being rebuilt could you enable uploading pictures from a web address |
| 00:48.20 | Ominous | for the wiki |
| 00:48.40 | Wobwork | Blackout: woo, that's great =) |
| 00:48.47 | Wobwork | one click fix for my pages at least =) |
| 00:50.01 | Pkekyo | is TrinketMenu Ace? |
| 00:50.14 | Nosrac | I don't think so |
| 00:51.03 | Blackout | Wobwork: thx |
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| 00:52.01 | Pkekyo | just spent 40g on repairs after ONE botanica run >_< |
| 00:52.02 | Blackout | could easily automate a mass import using google |
| 00:52.04 | Blackout | http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awowace.com%2Fwiki%2F*&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 00:53.00 | Wobwork | >< |
| 00:53.06 | Wobwork | I can't remember what pages I had up =P |
| 00:53.53 | Ominous | whats the wiki tag for inserting an image again |
| 00:54.13 | ravagernl | woot finally found a guild far enough in kara that needs a hunter |
| 00:54.39 | Blackout | lies |
| 00:55.38 | ckknight | pshaw, nobody "needs" hunters |
| 00:55.39 | Wobwork | Blackout: You might want to have it strip the googlecache highlighting though? |
| 00:55.41 | ckknight | hunters are a commodity |
| 00:55.42 | sylvanaar | ok, if someone wants to write a transform or some code to turn rss feed <item> into a formatted string, i would like you alot |
| 00:55.44 | Nosrac | lol |
| 00:55.55 | sylvanaar | til then enjoy the tooltip |
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| 00:58.03 | dreamss | i did it with regexp on tck |
| 00:58.06 | dreamss | tcl |
| 00:58.08 | dreamss | hehe |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43338 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | -Spell : Updated koKR |
| 00:58.27 | Blackout | Wobwork: sure, sec |
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| 01:02.12 | Blackout | Wobwork: it should remove the google highlighting now |
| 01:02.20 | Blackout | just resubmit the url |
| 01:02.23 | Pkekyo | anyone on Bloodfeather-EU wanna lend me 50g? :> |
| 01:03.23 | Nosrac | Would anyone be willing to explain to me AceConsole's (type = 'execute')'s options =D? |
| 01:05.15 | Arrowmaster | Nosrac: it executes a function |
| 01:05.27 | Ominous | Blackout: it errors now |
| 01:05.32 | Nosrac | Arrowmaster yeah, but I can't seem to get it to execute anything =( |
| 01:05.51 | Nosrac | Arrowmaster Is this the correct form? (type = 'execute', |
| 01:05.51 | Nosrac | function = 'self:RegisterCandyBar("OnlySoLongCandyBar", self.db.profile.time, self.db.profile.name); self:StartCandyBar("OnlySoLongCandyBar")',) |
| 01:06.12 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:06.20 | Nosrac | ? |
| 01:06.38 | Arrowmaster | you need to wrap that inside a function |
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| 01:06.51 | Ominous | Blackout: worked the second time |
| 01:07.04 | Nosrac | Arrowmaster ahh, I'll give that a try ;-) |
| 01:08.04 | Wobwork | Blackout: woot, thankee |
| 01:09.06 | ravagernl | function () <snip> end |
| 01:09.08 | Ominous | who is incharge of remaking hte info box? |
| 01:09.26 | Nosrac | Arrowmaster, it says '(' expected near '=' -- (on that same line of code -- |
| 01:09.55 | ravagernl | ckknight: I outdps shadowpriests |
| 01:10.17 | Arrowmaster | Nosrac: i have no clue what you did |
| 01:10.47 | Nosrac | type = 'execute', |
| 01:10.48 | Nosrac | function = OnlySoLong:CandyBarGo(), and the part you told me to function is below |
| 01:10.54 | Chompers | 5k gold at last |
| 01:11.00 | Chompers | epic mount time |
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| 01:11.08 | Arrowmaster | should be something like function = function() end, |
| 01:11.22 | NeoTron | ravagernl: outdpsing shadow priests - must be a warlock ;-) |
| 01:11.23 | Nosrac | Hmmm k |
| 01:11.27 | Nosrac | I'll mess around with it |
| 01:11.31 | ckknight | ravagernl: good for you? I don't DPS |
| 01:11.36 | ravagernl | neotron: no, hunter! |
| 01:11.40 | NeoTron | lies! |
| 01:11.46 | NeoTron | actually I know hunters can do good dps |
| 01:11.47 | ravagernl | nuh uh. |
| 01:12.08 | ravagernl | pvp gimp spec does good damage. |
| 01:12.10 | NeoTron | seems to be hard to find hunters that do though |
| 01:12.18 | ravagernl | Guess my talent build. |
| 01:12.21 | Pkekyo | what's the average primal nether fee on nowadays? |
| 01:12.24 | NeoTron | 0/0/61 |
| 01:12.31 | NeoTron | >:-) |
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| 01:12.37 | ravagernl | neotron: wrong :P |
| 01:12.41 | Wobwork | we have some good hunters in our raid group |
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| 01:12.50 | NeoTron | my hunter is only l42, so going for BM naturally |
| 01:12.52 | sylvanaar | what's chippy's mail mod called |
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| 01:13.23 | NeoTron | don't know hunter raid builds taht well - our primary hunter is BM spec though |
| 01:13.30 | ravagernl | why would I go mass agility when karazhan's mail loot has lots of ap |
| 01:13.39 | ravagernl | I'm marksman |
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| 01:13.50 | kebinusan | heh, this guy is actually pretty damn funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj9dLksw2p0 |
| 01:13.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43339 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - bugfix |
| 01:14.00 | ravagernl | I don't have anything from kara yet though |
| 01:14.24 | NeoTron | youtube has decided that clip is NSFK |
| 01:14.49 | kebinusan | yeah someone doesnt understand satire |
| 01:15.00 | ravagernl | I don't want to see that 'guy' when the video is NSFK |
| 01:15.23 | Ominous | wowace just done down? |
| 01:15.27 | NeoTron | don't even have a youtube account and don't really want one.:) |
| 01:16.04 | ravagernl | same :P |
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| 01:16.22 | ravagernl | LOL the hunter class leader wants me to install DBM |
| 01:16.35 | ravagernl | I say why? I have bigwigs? |
| 01:17.06 | ravagernl | He says: so you know the range between people in the raid for curator fight |
| 01:17.09 | ravagernl | ..... |
| 01:17.14 | Nosrac | rofl! |
| 01:17.24 | sylvanaar | wow nice work chippy |
| 01:17.29 | ravagernl | Damnit, i'm a hunter, all I care is about range :P |
| 01:18.19 | Wobwork | doesn't bigwigs -have- the range check? |
| 01:18.39 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 01:18.46 | ravagernl | I know, I still don't need it |
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| 01:19.12 | ravagernl | He told me DBM has way more features then bigwigs, yeah right |
| 01:19.23 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 01:19.36 | Nosrac | Ignorance == Bliss |
| 01:19.40 | ravagernl | I'll just install tekkubs fake DBM version check |
| 01:19.48 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 01:21.20 | Ominous | who can i talk to about the info box stuff? |
| 01:21.35 | Arrowmaster | ravagernl: tell him that DBM also was coded a bunch of monkeys chained to keyboards |
| 01:21.54 | Funkeh` | ravagernl: take a look at dbm please, the code, and see how similar it is to bw, why? they rip our fucking code |
| 01:22.15 | ravagernl | "optimization" |
| 01:22.35 | Funkeh` | you should try the addon dbmftlbbq |
| 01:22.50 | Funkeh` | rabbit wrote it its on the ace svn tell us if it works :P |
| 01:22.56 | NeoTron | ravagernl: you.. spread out for curator? |
| 01:23.36 | NeoTron | so asa fyi the best strat IMHO for curatori si everyone standing slightly our of melee range |
| 01:23.36 | Pkekyo | anyone know a good spot for farming adamanite? |
| 01:23.36 | NeoTron | then the rogues / melee dps doesn't have to run very far to get the adds down |
| 01:23.38 | NeoTron | spreading out is what makes the fight take 3-4 evocations.. |
| 01:24.17 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: DBM seriously steals code outright from BW? |
| 01:24.25 | ravagernl | Maybe I meant something different, not sure what my classleader said again |
| 01:24.28 | Funkeh` | take a look for yourself |
| 01:24.49 | Nosrac | Arrowmaster, If you don't mind looking at my code I've pasteyed and highlighted the weird part. Would ya see what I'm doing wrong =D? |
| 01:24.53 | Nosrac | Arrowmaster http://ace.pastey.net/70577 |
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| 01:26.15 | NeoTron | spreading out for curator doesn't make much sense because the aoe doesn't hit everyone, nor does it increase dmg done when it chains |
| 01:26.24 | NeoTron | it hits up to 3 ppl I believe |
| 01:26.33 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r43340 10RightWing/RightWing.lua: RightWing: Support right-click selfcast from the newer shapeshift bars (shadowform, etc) |
| 01:27.20 | Ominous | Nosrac: whats wrong |
| 01:28.02 | Nosrac | Ominous I can't get the right API for 'execute' the error is '(' expected near '=' |
| 01:30.17 | Ominous | Nosrac: fixed |
| 01:30.22 | Nosrac | =D |
| 01:30.43 | Nosrac | Ominous what was wrong with it =D? |
| 01:30.46 | ravagernl | neotron: I see, I haven't read curator part on wowwiki yet |
| 01:31.12 | Nosrac | func! |
| 01:31.13 | Ominous | Nosrac: func = not function = |
| 01:31.13 | Nosrac | Got it =D |
| 01:31.15 | Nosrac | Thanks |
| 01:31.24 | Nosrac | I appreciate it =D |
| 01:32.12 | ravagernl | I can't wait till wednesday evening |
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| 01:34.34 | sylvanaar | oh thats special now it doest work at all |
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| 01:35.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, I like the category filters in new WAU - some addons need to be fixed though |
| 01:35.54 | Kirkburn|afk | (spelling mistakes, for example) |
| 01:36.09 | Wobwork | ... no it doesn't |
| 01:36.32 | Kirkburn|afk | There's "Action Bar", "Action Bars" and "ActionBar" |
| 01:36.32 | sylvanaar | yeah, it was a user submission |
| 01:36.32 | Wobwork | the closer you get to the light, the more it diffuses around you and the lesser your shadow becomes |
| 01:36.40 | Wobwork | cause we're talking about 'the light' aren't we? =P |
| 01:36.51 | ravagernl | new WAU? |
| 01:36.55 | sylvanaar | its nice, i think it took me more time to fix than it did for him to code |
| 01:36.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Have I missed something? |
| 01:37.01 | Kirkburn|afk | ravagernl, 1.9.23 |
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| 01:37.48 | ravagernl | downloading :) |
| 01:38.08 | Kirkburn|afk | With zomg last changed times |
| 01:38.21 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 01:38.48 | Kirkburn|afk | sylvanaar, perhaps the "-", "?", etc symbol in front of the version could be expanded to a column instead? |
| 01:39.04 | sylvanaar | it would just take up more space |
| 01:39.19 | Kirkburn|afk | True ... perhaps a legend somewhere then? |
| 01:39.47 | sylvanaar | yeah, it does say the long form when you update |
| 01:39.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, okay then :) |
| 01:40.13 | sylvanaar | you know the WITH externals version blah blah |
| 01:41.04 | Kirkburn|afk | aye |
| 01:41.15 | ravagernl | cool, last changed is rather nifty |
| 01:41.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, related question - what's the "best" way to have addons atm - need I keep standalones? |
| 01:41.42 | sylvanaar | yeah, i rewrote the way it works |
| 01:42.09 | Kirkburn|afk | (I realise "best" is not a good word, but meh) |
| 01:42.12 | sylvanaar | after you have your default mode set |
| 01:42.18 | sylvanaar | you can remove !!!SAL |
| 01:42.22 | sylvanaar | and use autodeps |
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| 01:42.50 | sylvanaar | standalones |
| 01:43.06 | sylvanaar | unless you run <20 addons |
| 01:43.32 | Kirkburn|afk | 102 ticked Ace addons in the WAU list :) |
| 01:43.42 | sylvanaar | standalonex |
| 01:44.00 | sylvanaar | make sure they are all - versions |
| 01:44.16 | Kirkburn|afk | They are indeed |
| 01:44.38 | Antiarc | Quiet night. |
| 01:44.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Just saw lots of purple "adding dependency" :P |
| 01:44.45 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 01:44.50 | Wobwork | aw |
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| 01:44.54 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:44.54 | Kirkburn|afk | It just got quieter? |
| 01:44.54 | sylvanaar | you removed !!!SAL |
| 01:44.58 | Wobwork | I thought we'd bored you =) |
| 01:45.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, well you told me to ;) |
| 01:45.11 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 01:46.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Crazy tooltips when I roll over addon names though |
| 01:46.58 | Antiarc | I just hit esc accidentally |
| 01:47.39 | Pkekyo | possible to import mineral nodes other people have found into cartographer? |
| 01:47.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, it shows the .source file in the tooltip |
| 01:48.40 | ravagernl | You're working on those tooltips sylv? |
| 01:50.10 | ravagernl | What the hell 0o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOYjtSumBRo |
| 01:50.50 | Thorgard | Any reason I can't move the Prat FuBar icon anymore? :o |
| 01:56.12 | Blackout | http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/wikify/google_cache_list.html |
| 01:57.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Antiarc, aha I see how the mount fix works, cool |
| 01:57.16 | Antiarc | ? |
| 01:57.24 | Antiarc | Oh, the target thing |
| 01:57.26 | Antiarc | It works for you? |
| 01:57.31 | Kirkburn|afk | yup |
| 01:57.36 | Antiarc | Cool |
| 01:58.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Targeting when mounted? Well I never! :) |
| 01:58.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, I have no idea if you made any hunter pet changes recently, but it feels more accurate |
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| 02:00.05 | Antiarc | Not really recently, but I did make a few |
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| 02:00.31 | Wobwork | oh Blackout's a queenslander =P |
| 02:00.53 | Kirkburn|afk | May just be me, but good nonetheless |
| 02:01.19 | Kirkburn|afk | What part, Wob? |
| 02:02.57 | Wobwork | You'd have to ask Blackout =) |
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| 02:15.44 | Nosrac | Anyone know how using a /slash command I can unlock and lock a Candybar :-? |
| 02:16.12 | sylvanaar | Thorgard i have no idea |
| 02:16.19 | Pkekyo | how can I get the tooltip to always show at mouse-pointer? |
| 02:16.49 | sylvanaar | wont let me move it either |
| 02:16.51 | Thorgard | sylvanaar, yeah.. :/ The icon and menu works and everything.. I just can't click and drag it around.. all the other ones work fine. |
| 02:16.58 | Nosrac | Pkekyo you'll need a tooltip addon such as CowTip or TinyTip ;-) |
| 02:17.34 | Pkekyo | tinytip always screwed up my other addons =( |
| 02:17.55 | Nosrac | In what way? Not showing the text for other addons ? |
| 02:18.53 | Pkekyo | disabling certin addons, constantly popped error messages etc |
| 02:18.55 | sylvanaar | Thorgard i havent changed prat in a while really |
| 02:19.03 | Nosrac | o.O |
| 02:19.19 | ckknight | Pkekyo: CowTip doesn't do that |
| 02:19.21 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:19.23 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:19.38 | Pkekyo | could I get a second opinion on that? :p |
| 02:19.41 | Nosrac | ckknight but has CowTip fixed the 'Hiding other addons after a tooltip refresh' |
| 02:19.42 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:19.52 | ckknight | no, I fixed that |
| 02:19.58 | ckknight | a while ago |
| 02:19.58 | Pkekyo | no offense, but I find authors full of shite when talking about their own merchandise/product xD |
| 02:19.59 | Nosrac | Then Use CowTip ;-) |
| 02:20.14 | ckknight | Pkekyo: well, ur dum |
| 02:20.16 | ckknight | so there. |
| 02:20.19 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 02:20.20 | Pkekyo | haha |
| 02:20.31 | Pkekyo | youthink that's a better way to sell your product? |
| 02:20.36 | Nosrac | Pkekyo CowTip = Unbelievably Customizable. it's awesome |
| 02:20.38 | Wobwork | Pkekyo: authors aren't likely to advertise other products =P |
| 02:20.43 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: it's worked for him so far |
| 02:20.47 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:21.01 | Nosrac | Ckknight's grinning right now xD |
| 02:21.14 | Wobwork | and hey, insulting the userbase? |
| 02:21.20 | Wobwork | How else does Kenco get the custom? |
| 02:21.25 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, who's selling anything? i'm pretty sure he doesn't give a rats ass if you use his addon or not :P |
| 02:21.44 | Nosrac | True enough ;-P |
| 02:21.45 | Wobwork | It's true |
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| 02:21.53 | Wobwork | I couldn't give a rats arse who uses my addons |
| 02:21.58 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: what do you mean TinyTip is giving you errors btw. It shouldn't be disabling any other addon nor throwing errors. Where are you obtaining TinyTip from? |
| 02:22.06 | Wobwork | their lives are less richer for doing so, is all =) |
| 02:22.08 | JoshBorke | Wobwork: i care. i want to make sure you don't |
| 02:22.11 | JoshBorke | ;-P |
| 02:22.12 | ckknight | only for the qualities of appreciation, NightHawkAtWork |
| 02:22.16 | ckknight | outside of that, not really |
| 02:22.20 | Pkekyo | joshborke: can't remember where I got it...ages since I removed it |
| 02:22.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, that's a given. :P |
| 02:22.31 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:22.43 | Wobwork | Pkekyo: I'd grab the latest version from thrae's googlecode page |
| 02:22.56 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: well, you should always re-evaluate your options before determining a position |
| 02:23.02 | Nosrac | or... files.wowace.com <- CowTip ;-P |
| 02:23.15 | JoshBorke | anyway, bed time |
| 02:23.19 | Pkekyo | possible to import mineral nodes other people have found into cartographer? how? |
| 02:23.20 | Pkekyo | g'nite borke |
| 02:23.28 | Nosrac | Night |
| 02:23.34 | Pkekyo | cowtip works fine even though still in beta? |
| 02:23.40 | Nosrac | Yeah, it does |
| 02:23.53 | ckknight | beta is arbitrary, really |
| 02:23.56 | Nosrac | Pkekyo, I'll find you a link for Cart Databases |
| 02:24.02 | ckknight | frankly, I'd say it's out of beta |
| 02:24.06 | ckknight | it's pretty much done |
| 02:24.06 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, flipping through 1k+ torrents for something interesting sucks >< |
| 02:24.26 | Nosrac | Ckknight's Beta's are better than most people's completely finished addons, anyways |
| 02:24.41 | ckknight | <3 teh fanbois |
| 02:24.49 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:25.01 | Nosrac | Pkekyo: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5000.0 |
| 02:25.07 | Blackout | ill have all 1000 google cache entries fixed in a few mins |
| 02:25.07 | Pkekyo | so it seems...never had a prob with his addons...which seems rather weird tbh O.o got no reason to flame him >.< I WANT REASONS TO FLAME :p |
| 02:25.31 | Nosrac | Download the Mining database or whatever you want |
| 02:25.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you could always make stuff up, seems to work well for kenco |
| 02:26.02 | Nosrac | put the Cartographer_Mining.lua file inside your World of Warcraft>WTF>Account>Account Name>Saved Variables>*Put here* |
| 02:26.08 | Chompers | has he made any other absurd comments recently? |
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| 02:27.20 | break19 | Pkekyo: I got reasons to flame him. :p |
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| 02:27.27 | break19 | valid or not isnt the point |
| 02:27.31 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:27.33 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 02:27.56 | Pkekyo | fastest way to restart wow? (command strings?) |
| 02:28.03 | Wobwork | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.09 | Wobwork | or /quit |
| 02:28.11 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.15 | Thorgard | Alt+F4 |
| 02:28.18 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:28.20 | Pkekyo | methinks /console quit would be faster than /camp |
| 02:28.26 | Pkekyo | alt+f4 doesn't work for me =( |
| 02:28.30 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:28.31 | Wobwork | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.32 | break19 | I *have* had problems with some of his addons, mostly the problem was "dammit, why wont it do this" "uh.. thats not in yet.. wait a damn minute you impatient ass" "oh, hm. ok" |
| 02:28.42 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 02:28.43 | Blackout | any admins on ? |
| 02:29.30 | Pkekyo | Interface\AddOns\PlayerMenu\Locale.lua:4:AceLocale(PlayerMenu): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "zhCN" is the base locale, "enUS" is not. |
| 02:29.35 | Pkekyo | could anyone translate that to english? |
| 02:29.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Blackout, why? |
| 02:29.46 | sylvanaar | thats a funny question |
| 02:29.52 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:30.29 | break19 | wowace doesnt have admins, we're all equal here. |
| 02:30.29 | Blackout | because im interested in helping the rebuild |
| 02:30.33 | break19 | some of us are more equal than others |
| 02:30.43 | Blackout | someone has to administer the site |
| 02:30.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Sure, but why do you need one? |
| 02:31.04 | Pkekyo | ckknight: can cowtip put the tooltip on my mouse cursor at_all_times? if so: how? |
| 02:31.07 | Nosrac | Blackout, you can edit the wikis without any admin info ;-P |
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| 02:31.08 | break19 | but im out, night all |
| 02:31.09 | Blackout | so i can offer my help |
| 02:31.23 | ckknight | Pkekyo: yes, use the Position options |
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| 02:31.28 | Blackout | pfft, entering data via a webpage is the slow way |
| 02:31.29 | Nosrac | Pkekyo Yeah, I'm pretty sure it can; I haven't played WoW for a while, but I'd assume so |
| 02:31.30 | break19 | Pkekyo: yes, now.. ya'll quit asking easy questions, ask something I cant answer so I can go to bed :p |
| 02:31.33 | break19 | *click* |
| 02:31.51 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:32.02 | Wobwork | ä½ çš„è¯è¨€ä¸æ˜¯è‹±è¯ |
| 02:32.14 | QuantumDelta | break19 |
| 02:32.18 | QuantumDelta | square root of -1 :< |
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| 02:32.25 | Nosrac | break19 How many dogs years = 1 normal year? |
| 02:32.27 | Wobwork | probably =P |
| 02:32.29 | Wobwork | 7 |
| 02:32.34 | Nosrac | Quantum Wins =( |
| 02:32.59 | Nosrac | Wobwork shh |
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| 02:33.07 | pakoz2 | yo |
| 02:33.12 | Nosrac | hey |
| 02:33.21 | NightHawkTheSane | psh, sqrt(-1) is i. |
| 02:33.24 | Blackout | http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/automated/ |
| 02:33.25 | pakoz2 | anyone here killed their demon as a priest/druid before? |
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| 02:33.39 | pakoz2 | on leotheras |
| 02:33.43 | Nosrac | Blackout.... that's cool |
| 02:33.50 | Pkekyo | think downloading that Cartographer_Mining.lua file did more harm than good :p |
| 02:34.02 | Nosrac | Haha |
| 02:34.09 | Nosrac | There's like what? 10MB ;-P |
| 02:35.19 | Pkekyo | well...I can't see the map graphics anymore! |
| 02:35.23 | Nosrac | haha |
| 02:35.42 | Pkekyo | nor did that help me find any good spots to farm adamantite... |
| 02:35.46 | Nosrac | Blackout, it didn't seem to do it automatically, do you have to click something for it to work? |
| 02:35.49 | Nosrac | hahah |
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| 02:36.23 | Ominous | argh cant work out how to install lua socket on linux, any tips? |
| 02:36.54 | Blackout | just working on it now |
| 02:36.55 | Nosrac | Try this |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r43341 10Proximo/ (Proximo.lua frame.lua localization-enUS.lua options.lua): |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | Proximo |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | - Added optional target highlights |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up zone code so don't get old data on leaving arena (hopefully) |
| 02:37.02 | Nosrac | Ominous: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~diego/professional/luasocket/old/luasocket-2.0/ |
| 02:37.04 | Pkekyo | can cowtip keep track of how many times I've killed a mob, avg. mob value etc? |
| 02:37.13 | Nosrac | Nah, that's all MI2 |
| 02:37.22 | Nosrac | CowTip is just the tooltip |
| 02:37.51 | Pkekyo | MI2 was one of the things tinytip kept screwing up |
| 02:37.52 | Nosrac | Ominous not sure if that's what you're looking for, but it looks good =D |
| 02:38.02 | Nosrac | Well, according to ck it won't ;-P |
| 02:38.17 | Nosrac | I haven't used it in so long ;-P |
| 02:38.51 | ckknight | Pkekyo: if it _does_ mess up (which it shouldn't) inform me and I'll fix it |
| 02:39.12 | Pkekyo | sure...just gotta find MI2 first :> |
| 02:39.14 | Trancer | had a pitbull error today, wanted to promote someone to maintank |
| 02:39.24 | Trancer | pitbull called an action not allowed by blizzard ui |
| 02:40.16 | Trancer | "Pitbull has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI. You can disable this addon and reload the UI." |
| 02:40.40 | Nosrac | Is anyone able to give me SVN access? I'd like to put up my new *Made all today!* Addon =D |
| 02:40.45 | Pkekyo | I've had that error loads of times with an addon I can't remember what was >_< |
| 02:40.53 | Pkekyo | Nosrac: what does it do? |
| 02:41.07 | Hjalte | Trancer, that could be any of the libraries used in Pitbull, I think. |
| 02:41.07 | Arrowmaster | Trancer: thats taint |
| 02:41.20 | Trancer | Hmmz |
| 02:41.23 | Arrowmaster | its a known bug with the blizzard menus |
| 02:41.30 | Trancer | Needle <> Haystack, hooray! |
| 02:41.42 | Nosrac | It's more or less useless, but it creates a CandyBar with predefined text/time ;-) |
| 02:41.45 | Arrowmaster | use the slash commands to do it instead i think its /setmt or something |
| 02:41.56 | Trancer | yeah, did it with oRA2 later on |
| 02:42.01 | Nosrac | I can't figure out how to get it unlocked so... it's stuck in the middle of the screen for the time being >< |
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| 02:42.37 | Arrowmaster | Nosrac: perty sure you need to write your own stuff for moving it, just ripoff the bigwigs one |
| 02:42.55 | Nosrac | Arrowmaster I'll look into that ;-) |
| 02:43.15 | Arrowmaster | or any one of the other mods that uses candybars and has a moveable anchor |
| 02:43.26 | Nosrac | kk |
| 02:43.37 | Trancer | time to nap hmhm.. nn |
| 02:43.40 | Aenslaed | does anyone know the name of that texas hold'em mod? |
| 02:44.21 | Pkekyo | anyone know a good spot to farm adamantite? |
| 02:44.29 | Aenslaed | nagrand |
| 02:44.35 | Pkekyo | ckknight: cowtip works great with MI2 |
| 02:44.50 | Pkekyo | Aenslaed: twilight ridge? |
| 02:45.15 | ckknight | Pkekyo: great |
| 02:46.02 | Aenslaed | all over nagrand |
| 02:48.07 | Pkekyo | I like the way you inserted the health and manabars in the tooltip, ckknight :> |
| 02:48.08 | ckknight | :-) |
| 02:48.15 | Nosrac | Pkekyo it's completely customizable with DogTags, too ;-P |
| 02:48.32 | sylvanaar | why are my pitbull frames not at full alpha - where is the setting |
| 02:48.45 | Nosrac | It's probably Combat Fading |
| 02:48.52 | Nosrac | for player atleast |
| 02:48.58 | Nosrac | otherwise it might be ranger |
| 02:49.00 | Nosrac | range******** |
| 02:49.21 | Pkekyo | nosrac: dogtags? |
| 02:49.26 | Nosrac | !!! |
| 02:49.38 | Blackout | http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/automated/ # should be bug free now |
| 02:49.51 | Nosrac | Pkekyo: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0 |
| 02:49.55 | Nosrac | Not sure how up-to-date it is, though |
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| 02:50.07 | sylvanaar | its messing up my chat bubbles |
| 02:50.25 | Nosrac | have you checked, ck? |
| 02:50.25 | Nosrac | Hmmmm |
| 02:50.27 | sylvanaar | how do you override parent alpha on a child frame |
| 02:51.27 | Nosrac | Sylvanaar, I'm not sure. Could you do something like On Parent Frame Changes Alpha set Alpha to 1? |
| 02:53.09 | Blackout | http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/automated/output/ # all wiki pages from google cache cleaned up |
| 02:53.35 | Nosrac | Nice, Blackout. How long have you been working on all of that o.O? |
| 02:53.52 | Blackout | not long |
| 02:53.59 | Blackout | i scripted it all |
| 02:54.05 | Nosrac | nice |
| 02:54.12 | Pkekyo | holy crap....cowtip is awesome ^^ |
| 02:54.21 | Blackout | feel free to start interting it |
| 02:54.22 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:54.28 | Blackout | i dont have a wowace account, so :P |
| 02:55.05 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 02:55.28 | Pkekyo | ckknight still here? got a cowtip error for you |
| 02:55.29 | Blackout | so before i got AFK |
| 02:55.41 | ckknight | Pkekyo: I have never left you, child |
| 02:55.46 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 02:55.55 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r43342 10BigWigs/ (8 files in 6 dirs): BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 02:56.27 | Pkekyo | Interface\AddOns\CowTip\Appearance\Appearance.lua:241: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 02:56.53 | Nosrac | well, that's just silly. nil obviously = 0! |
| 02:57.19 | Pkekyo | anyone wanna translate that for me? :p |
| 02:57.26 | RogueShadow | sometimes the armory freezes my firefox |
| 02:57.44 | Pkekyo | blizzard's armory interface sucks frozen donkeyballs |
| 02:58.24 | Nosrac | Pkekyo, It means in Appearance.lua inside the Appearance folder on line 241 it tried to compare nil (inexistent, generally) with a number |
| 02:58.29 | RogueShadow | I shall never understand why it was needed to do it that way. |
| 02:58.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43343 10CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip_Appearance - bugfix |
| 02:58.56 | Nosrac | haha |
| 02:58.59 | Nosrac | Nice ck |
| 02:59.01 | Blackout | http://www.dheroes.com/members.php5 |
| 02:59.04 | ckknight | Pkekyo: done |
| 02:59.12 | Blackout | mt |
| 02:59.14 | Pkekyo | Nosrac: which means what? x) |
| 02:59.21 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 02:59.24 | Nosrac | Don't worry about it |
| 02:59.30 | Nosrac | Just download the new one and all is well ;-) |
| 02:59.34 | Pkekyo | you ever heard about laymans terms? :> |
| 02:59.43 | Nosrac | I tried =( |
| 02:59.45 | ckknight | Pkekyo: doesn't matter, it's fixed :-P |
| 02:59.49 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 03:00.00 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:00.11 | ckknight | basically, it means that nothing cannot be compared to 2, as it would be absurd |
| 03:00.24 | Nosrac | Blackout did you make that site o.O? |
| 03:00.30 | Nosrac | Ckknight did you change 'nothing' to 0 =D? |
| 03:00.31 | Pkekyo | yay, sold my third Valanos' Longbow for two days ^^ |
| 03:00.47 | ckknight | Nosrac: actually I do a nil check |
| 03:01.01 | Nosrac | Awe. You got my hopes up =( |
| 03:01.21 | Pkekyo | hmm...I've gotta take some Lua-for-dummies class :p |
| 03:01.43 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:02.25 | Pkekyo | gonna see if my teacher will try teach us lua next year :> |
| 03:02.40 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:02.43 | Blackout | Nosrac, yes.. me and a guildie |
| 03:02.53 | Nosrac | Blackout that looks really really nice |
| 03:03.10 | Nosrac | Blackout you could probably get payed for making guild sites ;-P |
| 03:03.30 | Nosrac | Hacking into the Armory for your info, I assume |
| 03:03.39 | Blackout | ya |
| 03:03.48 | Blackout | its all automated |
| 03:03.50 | Nosrac | WithFriendsLikeUs.. Who needs horde? |
| 03:03.53 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 03:03.58 | Blackout | just run an import script and it grabs all the information |
| 03:04.24 | RogueShadow | It's ... wow. |
| 03:04.34 | RogueShadow | nice motto |
| 03:04.46 | RogueShadow | Selling out friends and families, one epic at a time. |
| 03:04.58 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:04.59 | Pkekyo | lua hard to learn? |
| 03:05.07 | Blackout | so who is the head admin for wowace ? who runs the server ? |
| 03:05.15 | Nosrac | Lua + XML I'd say yes. But Ace 2, no |
| 03:05.27 | Nosrac | Ace 2 = Lua + XML Easy |
| 03:05.34 | Nosrac | And much much more, of course |
| 03:05.41 | ckknight | yea, it does make things easier to do |
| 03:05.47 | Pkekyo | gotta try it when I start school again :) |
| 03:05.47 | ckknight | which is the point |
| 03:06.03 | ckknight | make things easy while still being fast and efficient |
| 03:06.20 | ckknight | cause basically, easier frameworks = faster code churn |
| 03:06.22 | Nosrac | I got 'Hacking world of Warcraft' the book by Dan Gilbert and James Whitehead II, I wrote one of those addons following their guide step by step... omg. It took forever |
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| 03:06.33 | Nosrac | Then i did the 'Welcome Home' script and BOOM done |
| 03:06.38 | Pkekyo | youthink it'd be hard to convince my teacher to teach us lua? x) |
| 03:06.39 | Nosrac | All within a week, I might ad |
| 03:06.42 | Nosrac | add* |
| 03:07.04 | Thorgard | Pkekyo, if he doesn't know Lua, yeah. |
| 03:07.18 | Nosrac | Pkekyo haha, yes =D. You wouldn't want to, anyways. Unless he taught Ace2's Lua + WoW API, etc. :-P |
| 03:07.24 | Pkekyo | he doesn't know anything tbh |
| 03:07.33 | Nosrac | otherwise you'd be stuck with Non Ace ! |
| 03:07.46 | Pkekyo | he just read up on stuff like crazy the week before he's supposed to teach it to us xD |
| 03:07.53 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 03:08.27 | Nosrac | Pkekyo, how old are you ;-P? |
| 03:08.35 | Pkekyo | he's standing with his book (digital on computer ofc) at the whiteboard and tries desperately to convince us he know his stuff :> |
| 03:08.35 | RogueShadow | I had a class on Visual Basic (because in this situation I had to), the teacher didn't know anything beyond the lesson's. I had to entertain myself during class figuring things out. (because the lessons were easy for me after a day or 2 of studying the book they were all done after the first week practically) |
| 03:08.48 | Nosrac | haha |
| 03:08.51 | Pkekyo | I'm 18 >.< |
| 03:08.55 | Nosrac | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.57 | Nosrac | <- 16 =D |
| 03:09.11 | ckknight | <- 19 |
| 03:09.14 | ckknight | <- also, pimp |
| 03:09.17 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 03:09.25 | Pkekyo | 18 sucks...I wanna be 24...and irish xD |
| 03:09.37 | ckknight | lol, why? |
| 03:09.38 | Antiarc | <-- 24 |
| 03:09.44 | Pkekyo | irish accent > all |
| 03:09.49 | ckknight | ^--- has a wife |
| 03:09.49 | RogueShadow | <-- Soon to be 24 |
| 03:09.53 | ckknight | well, Antiarc, that is |
| 03:10.00 | ckknight | Antiarc: you have a wife, right? |
| 03:10.06 | Nosrac | ckknight, I'd expected you to be some old dude with all the nice coding ;-P |
| 03:10.13 | RogueShadow | <-- Engaged anyway. |
| 03:10.14 | Pkekyo | WTB wife, home and job! |
| 03:10.17 | ckknight | no way, I'm just a mere prodigy |
| 03:10.21 | RogueShadow | WTB job... |
| 03:10.23 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:10.26 | Nosrac | WTS Job =D |
| 03:10.27 | ckknight | I know like 20 languages |
| 03:10.33 | Nosrac | nice |
| 03:10.34 | ckknight | beat that, sucka |
| 03:10.35 | RogueShadow | WTB JOB WUT IS IT |
| 03:10.38 | Pkekyo | verbal languages or programming? |
| 03:10.42 | ckknight | programming |
| 03:10.52 | Pkekyo | cool...which ones? |
| 03:10.52 | ckknight | I only have minimal training in verbal languages |
| 03:11.08 | Pkekyo | ftw |
| 03:11.08 | Nosrac | I'm 16, I haven't had a single programming language class =( |
| 03:11.16 | Nosrac | of course you all win =( |
| 03:11.19 | RogueShadow | I mentioned my only one. |
| 03:11.23 | ckknight | the problem is, if I were to learn a language, I'd want to learn Arabic or Farsi, and if I do that, I'd be more likely to be recruited to the government rather than the private sector |
| 03:11.32 | Antiarc | I've stopped counting the languages I know |
| 03:11.37 | Antiarc | At this point I count paradigms |
| 03:11.38 | Pkekyo | I've had basic HTML at school, that's it...and that was ofc YEARS after I learned basic html... |
| 03:11.42 | ckknight | languages are easy after the first 4 |
| 03:12.02 | Pkekyo | <---- english, norwegian, french and a little german atm |
| 03:12.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: indeed. |
| 03:12.18 | Pkekyo | and swedish ofc....gotta love swedish profanities! |
| 03:12.21 | Antiarc | Procedural? Check. OO? Check. Functional? check. Logic-oriented? check |
| 03:12.26 | Antiarc | Once you know that, the rest is details ;) |
| 03:12.33 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 03:12.38 | ckknight | Concurrent? |
| 03:12.46 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 03:12.49 | Pkekyo | what's concurrent? |
| 03:12.55 | RogueShadow | but... do you know Flipper!! |
| 03:12.56 | Wobwork | oh man functional languages |
| 03:12.57 | Pkekyo | wtb +int buff irl! |
| 03:12.58 | Thorgard | Pkekyo, kukgrussprutluder? |
| 03:12.58 | Hjalte | ckknight, how do you make Cowtip hide the Guild: and Guild rank: lines if the player i mouseover is not in any guild? If I move eg the guild tag over to the side with the "Guild:" text, the line does not hide itself if the player has no guild. |
| 03:13.01 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r43344 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: update zhTW |
| 03:13.14 | Wobwork | functional languages are kinda cool |
| 03:13.18 | Wobwork | once you get into the mindset |
| 03:13.22 | RogueShadow | ... |
| 03:13.22 | Pkekyo | Thorgard: jävla tomtiga bögige fittjävel? :> |
| 03:13.28 | RogueShadow | Anybody know Flipper? |
| 03:13.37 | Wobwork | Faster than lightning? |
| 03:13.48 | Thorgard | Pkekyo, never! |
| 03:13.50 | NightHawkTheSane | flipper? I hardly know her. |
| 03:14.01 | Wobwork | ~rimshot |
| 03:14.02 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 03:14.02 | Pkekyo | flipper? the dolphin? met him at a bar once....rather nice guy |
| 03:14.06 | ckknight | Hjalte: if the text on the right is blank, it won't show. Something must be showing. |
| 03:14.07 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:14.15 | RogueShadow | ... n/m |
| 03:14.26 | Pkekyo | how long would it take me to learn c++? |
| 03:14.26 | Wobwork | it's like asking "Anyone know Skippy?" |
| 03:14.32 | RogueShadow | I meant Spin |
| 03:14.35 | RogueShadow | that's it... |
| 03:14.36 | Pkekyo | KANGAROO, AYE! |
| 03:14.37 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 03:14.40 | Wobwork | Pkekyo: what other lanagues do you know? |
| 03:14.44 | ckknight | Pkekyo: how much do you know already? Language-wise? |
| 03:14.56 | Pkekyo | html, and some php |
| 03:14.56 | RogueShadow | Spin is a language... a programming language |
| 03:15.01 | RogueShadow | I have heard of... |
| 03:15.16 | ckknight | Pkekyo: yea, it'll take you a while to grasp it |
| 03:15.26 | ckknight | depending on who are, how good you are, etc. |
| 03:15.30 | Pkekyo | would java be easier? |
| 03:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | If you can wrap your head around any language, then learning a new one is pretty trivial |
| 03:15.43 | RogueShadow | Spin is a language developed for a multicore microcontroller chip called Propeller |
| 03:15.49 | ZealotOnAStick | There's no way to specify a loot event of the targetted corpse other than clicking on it, is there? |
| 03:15.49 | ckknight | Pkekyo: Java can blow me |
| 03:15.52 | Hjalte | ckknight, so if the tag is empty, it doesnt show. That makes sense. Why can't that apply when I move it to the other side? :) |
| 03:15.54 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:15.54 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 03:15.57 | Wobwork | Java sucks |
| 03:16.10 | Wobwork | Pkekyo: You might be better off trying to learn C# |
| 03:16.19 | Wobwork | the .net framework will help |
| 03:16.24 | Pkekyo | might be so, but it's still a good thing to know when trying to get a job within IT |
| 03:16.26 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 03:16.33 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck C#. Learn basic C, then work from there. ;) |
| 03:16.35 | RogueShadow | C# does have auto documentation.... |
| 03:16.36 | Wobwork | Java jobs aren't worth it =) |
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| 03:16.44 | Wobwork | not worth the stress |
| 03:16.49 | Pkekyo | I find it rather easy to learn languages etc...but I'm so fucking lazy it's not even funny >.< |
| 03:17.01 | RogueShadow | Pkekyo: Amen to that. |
| 03:17.03 | Wobwork | You just need a goal |
| 03:17.09 | daemoen | hey all |
| 03:17.10 | RogueShadow | I agree. |
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| 03:17.15 | Wobwork | once you have a project that interests you, it'll be easier to learn |
| 03:17.19 | Antiarc | Java's not worth the carpal tunnel syndrome. |
| 03:17.20 | Pkekyo | when it comes to something I'm not 100% dedicated to, I have the attention-span of an average mosquito... |
| 03:17.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. I usually decide "i'm going to make such and such in <this> language" and then learn as I go :P |
| 03:17.24 | Antiarc | typetypetypetypetype |
| 03:17.28 | Wobwork | Antiarc: so true |
| 03:17.45 | Pkekyo | tbh, I wanna learn how to paint images with html O.o |
| 03:17.56 | Wobwork | what, with css hacks? |
| 03:18.07 | daemoen | wont work |
| 03:18.20 | daemoen | even using overlays youre still highly limited to what you can do to manipulate an image |
| 03:18.25 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 03:18.31 | ckknight | Hjalte: possibly you have some invisible text, like coloring |
| 03:18.31 | Pkekyo | saw some vid of it on youtube the other day...insane |
| 03:18.33 | Wobwork | not worth the headache trying to figure it out |
| 03:18.45 | [FH]Birdemani | http://pastey.net/70496 <<<PlayerMenu is generating these three errors with the newest update |
| 03:18.54 | daemoen | Pkekyo: whatever vid you saw was fabricated then. you cannot do enough to manipulate the images |
| 03:19.03 | [FH]Birdemani | and if you click on the name of a person in chat it causes a hardlock |
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| 03:19.08 | daemoen | you can do some neat "tricks" but actually rendering the images themselves cannot be done, period. |
| 03:19.26 | Wobwork | honestly, it sounds like AJAX |
| 03:19.30 | Wobwork | neat in concept |
| 03:19.30 | daemoen | css and html do not modify images, i dont care what someone on youtube says |
| 03:19.34 | Hjalte | ckknight: No, the text is visible, it's the "Guild:" text that i still want to show, but i mean, if the tags are on the right side, it hides the whole line if the tag is empty. If the tag is on the left, it only hides the tag. It doesnt hide the whole line, which i would wish it did. |
| 03:19.38 | Wobwork | but well beyond the actual ability of the spec |
| 03:19.54 | kergoth | hmm, is there a tool/site for figuring out what gear to get? that shows things like crit % from crit rating, AP from agi/str, etc? |
| 03:19.55 | Pkekyo | daemoen: check this one: http://www.infocider.com/blogs/index.php/moviemix/?title=en_asiater_med_alvorlige_fritidsprobleme&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 |
| 03:20.13 | Pkekyo | not MANIPULATE images...MAKE images |
| 03:20.24 | ckknight | Hjalte: oh, then stick some hidden text in on the right |
| 03:20.50 | Wobwork | oh god |
| 03:20.51 | RogueShadow | lol. |
| 03:20.54 | Wobwork | it's a bitmap |
| 03:21.05 | Wobwork | USING TABLES |
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| 03:21.11 | Pkekyo | ftw? |
| 03:21.11 | daemoen | thats not even a bitmap really |
| 03:21.17 | FISKER_Q | old Pkekyo |
| 03:21.19 | daemoen | and they used an image conversion program |
| 03:21.29 | Wobwork | oh that's honestly horrific =P |
| 03:21.31 | Pkekyo | FISKER: still fucking impressive |
| 03:21.34 | daemoen | id have to go digging through my old html shit, but i know EXACTLY what they did to do it |
| 03:21.36 | FISKER_Q | nah |
| 03:21.37 | daemoen | Pkekyo: no its not. |
| 03:21.45 | Pkekyo | it is for a nab like me |
| 03:21.48 | daemoen | do you have any fucking idea how long it would take to render that many table layers? |
| 03:22.03 | daemoen | that page would be nuked instantly because of bandwidth issues alone |
| 03:22.13 | Wobwork | oh god |
| 03:22.15 | Pkekyo | that's what's so impressive about him making that pic |
| 03:22.22 | syeren | ckknight: http://fabrikate.org/ui/071007.jpg |
| 03:22.23 | syeren | \O/ |
| 03:22.35 | daemoen | Pkekyo: if you think so :) |
| 03:22.36 | daemoen | lol |
| 03:22.46 | RogueShadow | lol, that's ridiculous. |
| 03:22.52 | daemoen | you should look into maya sometime, the shit you can do with a REAL modelling program, now that gets impressive |
| 03:22.52 | ckknight | like [White] to the beginning |
| 03:22.54 | Pkekyo | well...more scary than impressive tbh |
| 03:23.18 | Pkekyo | the guys certainly have an extreme dedication to his goal O.o |
| 03:23.21 | Pkekyo | guy* |
| 03:23.24 | RogueShadow | It's scary some people who still use ms paint to do photo realistic drawings. |
| 03:23.27 | ckknight | syeren: I believe you're under attack |
| 03:23.36 | RogueShadow | Talent wasted, should be used with modern software and make something truly impressive. |
| 03:23.38 | ckknight | or at least, that's what the Herald is yelling |
| 03:23.44 | syeren | Like I give a shit ;) |
| 03:23.56 | syeren | I wouldn't be standing on top of a mountain if I cared about what happened :P |
| 03:24.05 | daemoen | RogueShadow: :-D, only way I am good at photo chopping is with grid, 8x zoom, and pixel by pure pixel manipulation |
| 03:24.05 | daemoen | lol |
| 03:24.21 | ckknight | syeren: so what am I looking at? |
| 03:24.23 | Wobwork | http://probertson.livejournal.com/18096.html |
| 03:24.29 | syeren | Just showing you my UI! :p |
| 03:24.32 | syeren | Blank Space <3 |
| 03:24.41 | Wobwork | Pirate Baby's Cabana Battle Street Fight 2006 |
| 03:24.45 | Wobwork | Best Video Ever |
| 03:25.00 | Wobwork | old link, fersure, but still the most entertaining |
| 03:25.20 | Pkekyo | daemoen: every single ace2 addon? would you even be able to load them all? |
| 03:25.25 | daemoen | syeren: good god.. where the hell are your buttons :p |
| 03:25.45 | syeren | Why do I need buttons If I have keybindings? |
| 03:25.55 | syeren | That's like being a touch typer and looking at your keyboard while you type ;p |
| 03:26.05 | daemoen | Pkekyo: knowing my laptop, probably |
| 03:26.06 | daemoen | lol |
| 03:26.08 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:26.15 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 03:26.25 | Wobwork | I mistype on my laptop so often =\ |
| 03:26.36 | daemoen | i like my laptop keyboard more than my normal one, lol |
| 03:26.45 | daemoen | but, I never did get good with the number row |
| 03:26.54 | daemoen | drives me nuts trying to touch type 1-0 and the F keys |
| 03:27.01 | Nosrac | Daemoen but, what if there was an Ace2 Addon that was a really big memory hog, and did an infinity loop during the load. Would it load, THEN!?!? |
| 03:27.02 | Wobwork | oh god yes |
| 03:27.09 | Pkekyo | meh, I hate laptop keyboards >_< |
| 03:27.16 | Wobwork | I always have to look at the number line |
| 03:27.26 | daemoen | Nosrac: if there was an ace2 addon that did that, I dont think it would remain an ace2 addon for long :p |
| 03:27.32 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:27.41 | daemoen | :-D |
| 03:28.00 | Wobwork | PS PBCBSF2004 has a CthunLi |
| 03:28.02 | daemoen | hehe, syeren uses pitbull |
| 03:28.07 | Pkekyo | only thing I have to look for on my keyboard is the C-lock button...as I tore it out and haven't found it since xD |
| 03:28.15 | Wobwork | s/4/6/ |
| 03:28.18 | syeren | I have done since it didn't work daemoen :p |
| 03:28.21 | syeren | That was pretty epic :p |
| 03:28.37 | syeren | ckknight, does Parrot have options in yet :P? |
| 03:28.38 | daemoen | lol Pkekyo |
| 03:28.53 | ckknight | syeren: some |
| 03:28.58 | daemoen | http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2632/wowscrnshot070907190929bu2.jpg <--- not as fancy as all you guys, but i like it :) |
| 03:29.16 | ckknight | syeren: I thought you were showing me a bug or something, btw |
| 03:29.18 | daemoen | only thing that i did finally do was shrink the damage done window so that it fits beneath the viewport seperator |
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| 03:29.32 | syeren | Nah :P |
| 03:29.44 | syeren | You know I just tend to spam the error messages or bitch in here when I do ;p |
| 03:29.47 | Wobwork | I need to redo my ui |
| 03:29.53 | Wobwork | Now that I have a nice widescreen |
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| 03:30.01 | Nosrac | Ckknight: Surely you jest! a Bug? Ace2? |
| 03:30.02 | Kinkx | ckknight - I have a bug with a Cowtip! Not really an issue though.. http://img144.imagevenue.com/loc636/th_13985_cowtipminimap_122_636lo.jpg |
| 03:30.07 | daemoen | now that I have a 19" widescreen flatpanel its nice :-D |
| 03:30.08 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43345 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: remove casting bar |
| 03:30.18 | ckknight | Kinkx: yea, I saw it |
| 03:30.19 | daemoen | a helluva lot more crisp than my laptop monitor, lol |
| 03:30.23 | Kinkx | Ah kk <3 |
| 03:30.24 | ckknight | Kinkx: "blah" |
| 03:30.25 | Wobwork | oh totally |
| 03:30.31 | Kinkx | It goes away |
| 03:30.32 | Wobwork | And so much BRIGHTER |
| 03:30.37 | Kinkx | But it's there briefly |
| 03:30.45 | daemoen | only thing that bothers me is no matter what resolution i use.... wow wont go beyond 12x8 |
| 03:30.55 | Kinkx | I was ninja fast on the print screen button just to report it to you! :) |
| 03:30.56 | daemoen | bah, Wobwork |
| 03:31.03 | Kinkx | But.. yea, not really an issue :p |
| 03:31.04 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:31.30 | daemoen | its funny, i started with mirage ui.. now im more "ace" than mirage, lol |
| 03:31.50 | syeren | Could be worse, could be using Photek and saying you're individual ;p |
| 03:31.57 | daemoen | photek? |
| 03:32.01 | syeren | Who exactly is Photek by the way :P? |
| 03:32.07 | syeren | Guy gets a lot of fame for other people's work :p |
| 03:32.56 | Nosrac | Daemoen, that better not be Damage Meters I see |
| 03:33.08 | daemoen | .... :-D |
| 03:33.13 | daemoen | why not? |
| 03:33.20 | Nosrac | It's so ugly! |
| 03:33.24 | daemoen | im still learning though :\ |
| 03:33.25 | Nosrac | And there's an ace2 alternative! |
| 03:33.29 | Nosrac | Violation |
| 03:33.29 | Nosrac | Get it |
| 03:33.34 | daemoen | oooh another ace toy |
| 03:33.37 | daemoen | woohoo * goes to play * |
| 03:33.39 | Antiarc | Honestly, Violation hasn't been anywhere near accurate enough for me :/ |
| 03:33.39 | daemoen | brb :-D |
| 03:33.44 | Nosrac | Really? |
| 03:33.45 | daemoen | rut roh |
| 03:33.59 | daemoen | an ace2 room voice saying an ace mod isnt accurate... thats scary :-D |
| 03:34.01 | abyssichate | It is decently accurate for me |
| 03:34.02 | Antiarc | Yeah, the numbers for everyone but me are always way low |
| 03:34.12 | Antiarc | *shrug* That's just my experience as a user |
| 03:34.13 | Nosrac | How about... that other new damage one with graphs? |
| 03:34.16 | Antiarc | I may be using it wrong |
| 03:34.17 | Nosrac | anyone tried that one ><? |
| 03:34.18 | Kinkx | it spies on SW_Stats, but they show different numbers even so.. strange |
| 03:34.35 | daemoen | what does omen do, isnt omen supposed to replace damage meters? |
| 03:34.40 | Nosrac | Nope |
| 03:34.44 | Antiarc | Omen's a KTM replacement |
| 03:34.45 | Nosrac | Omen replaces KLHThreatMeter |
| 03:34.46 | daemoen | or was it omen replaces threatmeter (k threatthingy) |
| 03:34.48 | daemoen | yeah |
| 03:34.48 | Kreiger__ | ^^ |
| 03:34.50 | abyssichate | nah Antiarc, it usually happens when there are many people that are not using any kind of damage meter, so you just parse your combat log (30 yards) and it is quite difficult to always be in range for everyone |
| 03:34.51 | abyssichate | I guess |
| 03:35.02 | Kinkx | I have max combatlog range on, and they still show different numbers |
| 03:35.03 | Nosrac | you can praise Antiarc for that one ;-P |
| 03:35.09 | Antiarc | Well, nearly my entire guild runs DamageMeters |
| 03:35.11 | Antiarc | So I dunno |
| 03:35.14 | daemoen | i dont even use the damage meter, havent figured out how the hell it works :-D |
| 03:35.18 | Kreiger__ | Does Acemods have an swstats replacement, or something else to look over a fight and tell me how often i'm missing/criting, ets? |
| 03:35.25 | abyssichate | DMM spying should still be broken |
| 03:35.31 | abyssichate | at least, it was, I don't know if it has been fixed |
| 03:35.40 | daemoen | hrm |
| 03:35.49 | Antiarc | Recount, kreiger |
| 03:35.49 | Nosrac | Kreiger__ I'm not sure, on that one =( |
| 03:35.52 | daemoen | Nosrac: all 3 violation packs or only need the primary violation? |
| 03:36.00 | kreiger | Antiarc it works well? |
| 03:36.00 | Nosrac | 3 packs? |
| 03:36.04 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 03:36.06 | Nosrac | one sec |
| 03:36.10 | daemoen | combat log range, effective healing, and violation |
| 03:36.11 | daemoen | :-) |
| 03:36.28 | Nosrac | Just Violation, probably |
| 03:36.29 | kreiger | Ty. I only recently discovered the awesomsauce that is closetgnome. I just wish it let me make icons. |
| 03:36.33 | daemoen | and and... im mad! i went to install nquest log and its outdated... stupid blizz, lol |
| 03:36.34 | Nosrac | or you could try Recount |
| 03:36.38 | daemoen | recount? |
| 03:36.43 | Nosrac | it also does graphs |
| 03:36.46 | kreiger | I guess i could set macros for /closetgnome wear tank |
| 03:36.50 | Nosrac | Anyone know if it can use Threat? |
| 03:36.55 | Nosrac | (Recount) |
| 03:37.10 | abyssichate | I still haven't figured out why this guy in my guild sends data with quite of a huge delay to both Threat-1.0 and Violation :s |
| 03:37.26 | kreiger | abyssichate, what's Violation? |
| 03:37.29 | Nosrac | Abyssichate he might have lag ;-P |
| 03:37.34 | abyssichate | no, it is not lag |
| 03:37.42 | abyssichate | kreiger: a damage meter |
| 03:37.46 | Nosrac | greiger it's like DPS + Damage + Healing + HPS + Everything Else + Threat Metere |
| 03:37.53 | Nosrac | Kreiger** |
| 03:38.10 | Nosrac | abyssichate does anyone else who uses Threat and Violation have the delay? |
| 03:38.10 | kreiger | But the thing that'll tell me my miss/crit/hit history is recount. |
| 03:38.29 | Nosrac | Kreiger Antiarc says Recount can ;-) |
| 03:38.43 | abyssichate | Nosrac: everyone that is using Threat/Violation displays this guys's data with a strong delay, yes |
| 03:38.45 | kreiger | If he's wrong i'll just come in here and QQ |
| 03:38.54 | kreiger | One last question, any of you use Voicefu? |
| 03:39.25 | Nosrac | abyssichate could be a "he's not updated", "other addons don't like it", or "his computer" problem, not sure besides those three ;-P |
| 03:39.37 | Nosrac | Kreiger never heard of VoiceFu, I'll go check it out ;-) |
| 03:40.02 | kreiger | Fubar_voicefu "Displays who is talking on voice chat programs (TS or Vent) |
| 03:40.03 | daemoen | voicef? |
| 03:40.07 | daemoen | wth |
| 03:40.13 | daemoen | that i got to check out, lol |
| 03:40.14 | kreiger | i can't seem to figure out how to get it to display my vent. |
| 03:40.15 | abyssichate | He's up-to-date, we tried using only threat-1.0 and violation so I don't think that other addons could be addresses as causes of the issue - it's probably something else we cannot figure out |
| 03:40.27 | Nosrac | Kreiger I figured. Maybe we could get a PitBull Plugin to show who's talking =D /nudges Ckknight |
| 03:40.41 | daemoen | which would be better, violation or recount? |
| 03:40.44 | kreiger | it's on wowaceupdater. jst the only options involve push to talk keys,a nd don't even WORK |
| 03:40.58 | kreiger | is ckknight the maker of Pit? |
| 03:41.01 | Nosrac | Yep |
| 03:41.09 | ckknight | Nosrac: nah, impossible, can't talk comm with 3rd party apps like vent |
| 03:41.18 | Nosrac | Ckknight but you can have them both assigned to the same key! |
| 03:41.22 | kreiger | nice. maybe he can tell me why it takes 20 seconds for my party frames to load when i join a group of more then 1 person. |
| 03:41.23 | Kinkx | I like Recount, but if you use the graphs it eats a lot of ram, more then SW_Stats |
| 03:41.29 | ckknight | use VoiceOverlay |
| 03:41.34 | Nosrac | <- Mac =( |
| 03:41.40 | ckknight | <- also mac |
| 03:41.45 | Nosrac | Omg srsly? |
| 03:41.47 | Nosrac | Omg! |
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| 03:41.49 | daemoen | hrm |
| 03:41.57 | daemoen | whats your ram usage on recount Kinkx? |
| 03:41.59 | kreiger | ckknight, any ideas why my party frames take 10-20 seconds to load when i join a group? |
| 03:42.11 | Kinkx | Was up to 7mb |
| 03:42.17 | Nosrac | kreiger if you're in combat it can't be made until you leave ;-) |
| 03:42.19 | ckknight | shouldn't take that long |
| 03:42.27 | ckknight | oh yea, there's that |
| 03:42.35 | Kinkx | But Recount has some really awesome features though |
| 03:42.38 | kreiger | That could be it, actually. i'll check that out and get back to it. |
| 03:42.45 | Nosrac | ;-) |
| 03:42.47 | kreiger | Kinkx, how do you find out how much ram your addons are usin? |
| 03:42.57 | Nosrac | There's FuBar Addons for it |
| 03:42.59 | Kinkx | PerformanceFu |
| 03:43.04 | Nosrac | That's it! |
| 03:43.13 | daemoen | yeah, fubar performancef |
| 03:43.26 | daemoen | highly useful tool :-D especially the forced garbage collection |
| 03:43.41 | Nosrac | Aye |
| 03:44.19 | daemoen | all of the addons and modules are written 100% in lua, correct? |
| 03:44.21 | kreiger | btw. if the guy who makes omen comes in here, tell him i LOVE that guildie's Omen yells at me to update mine. |
| 03:44.48 | kreiger | lemme hop in game and test this stuff out. Thanks for all the help guys |
| 03:45.08 | ckknight | daemoen: correct |
| 03:45.34 | ckknight | kreiger: that's Antiarc |
| 03:45.49 | Kinkx | Antiarc|Work - kreiger loves Omen |
| 03:45.52 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r43346 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 03:45.52 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:45.52 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW: Spell |
| 03:45.54 | daemoen | i take it you have to do api hooks to make most of them then or ? |
| 03:45.54 | Antiarc | Oh, yay! |
| 03:46.04 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 03:46.17 | Nosrac | ckknight, I can't find VoiceOverlay for mac, are you running WoW in Windows (Intel-style)? |
| 03:46.27 | ckknight | Nosrac: it's not a mac program |
| 03:47.19 | Nosrac | Er... So... You've got me confused =D |
| 03:47.21 | Nosrac | Cancel it all ;-) |
| 03:48.55 | ckknight | Nosrac: there's no voice overlay system for Mac. |
| 03:48.55 | ckknight | which is lame. |
| 03:49.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: write one? :p |
| 03:49.15 | Nosrac | Ooooh, I understand what you mean, now. I thought you were saying You had a Voice Overlay |
| 03:49.30 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: no thanks |
| 03:49.31 | Nosrac | And then you said the program didn't exist... so... |
| 03:49.35 | Nosrac | I was like ... "what?" |
| 03:49.56 | NimbleRabit | lol dr.dmg doesn't seem to know that rogues miss chance is 24% with both weapons |
| 03:50.19 | Nosrac | NimbleRabit it's fair, though. The Non-Caster part is just starting ;-P |
| 03:50.34 | NimbleRabit | yeah but it says +hit gives me 0 lol |
| 03:50.38 | NimbleRabit | glad it's coming along though |
| 03:50.44 | Nosrac | lol same |
| 03:51.58 | NimbleRabit | I really can't wait for it to tell me how much hit/crit/ap is worth |
| 03:52.05 | NimbleRabit | because I think I might be stacking +hit a bit to much |
| 03:52.34 | syeren | AV I am in is fucking AMAZING. |
| 03:52.40 | syeren | European AV at this time is awesome. |
| 03:52.46 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:52.49 | syeren | There are 34 people botting., |
| 03:52.51 | Nosrac | howso? |
| 03:52.54 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 03:57.46 | Keias | lol |
| 03:57.53 | Keias | We had a 40 man AFK game earlier |
| 03:58.03 | Keias | started out as 30, then the other 10 gave up and hid in the tunnel |
| 03:58.34 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 03:59.32 | Pkekyo | Nosrac: that addon of yours... |
| 03:59.36 | Nosrac | yeah? |
| 03:59.39 | Pkekyo | what does it do? |
| 04:00.10 | Nosrac | It creates a little bar (that can't move as of yet, I'll add that tomorrow) with customizable text/time |
| 04:00.19 | Nosrac | No announcements when it finishes as of yet, as well =D |
| 04:00.27 | Nosrac | And, Only 1 bar =D |
| 04:00.45 | Nosrac | But! |
| 04:00.47 | Pkekyo | so it's basically like the custom bar thingie in La Vendetta? |
| 04:00.48 | Nosrac | It can pause and go! |
| 04:00.54 | Nosrac | ehhh |
| 04:00.54 | Nosrac | Kind |
| 04:00.55 | Nosrac | a |
| 04:01.07 | Nosrac | Competely different function, though |
| 04:01.20 | Nosrac | You can try it out if you'd like ;-) |
| 04:01.30 | Nosrac | http://www.mediafire.com/?5gimn0vwmdj |
| 04:01.48 | Nosrac | the slash command is /osl |
| 04:01.53 | Pkekyo | tbh, I have nothing to use it for =/ |
| 04:01.57 | Nosrac | haha |
| 04:02.09 | Pkekyo | also: i've gotta farm 13 stacks of adamantite by 8am |
| 04:02.18 | Nosrac | It's more for when I'm going to go to the AH and spend 30 minutes rather than the 2 minutes I tell myself I should do ;-P |
| 04:02.31 | Pkekyo | bbeen there, done that :> |
| 04:02.34 | Nosrac | ;-) |
| 04:02.37 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 04:02.40 | Nosrac | And also the "I'll do it in a sec!" |
| 04:02.42 | Nosrac | and then I never do it |
| 04:02.51 | theoddone33 | someone in pvp had the guild tag <Jesus Had a Soulstone> |
| 04:02.51 | Pkekyo | like I said: been there, done that |
| 04:02.55 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 04:03.11 | Pkekyo | you should have it announce "do it now, you lazy prick" or something :> |
| 04:03.21 | Nosrac | lol |
| 04:03.26 | Nosrac | It'll be customizable when it's done ;-) |
| 04:03.29 | daemoen | ck, you wrote pb right? |
| 04:03.33 | Nosrac | Yeah, he did |
| 04:03.33 | Pkekyo | theoddone33: what battlegroup? EU/US? |
| 04:03.44 | theoddone33 | rampage, US |
| 04:04.26 | Pkekyo | someone on bloodfeather US has the guildtag KuKløs Klan |
| 04:04.43 | Pkekyo | - which is norwegian and translates into Cockless Clan |
| 04:04.47 | daemoen | anyone know which setting in pitbull will get rid of the "wow" icon in the player frames :-D |
| 04:04.49 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 04:04.57 | Pkekyo | wow icon? |
| 04:05.00 | Nosrac | the "wow" icon? |
| 04:05.04 | Pkekyo | the horde/alliance thing? |
| 04:05.04 | Nosrac | quick screenshot! |
| 04:05.04 | daemoen | ummm |
| 04:05.06 | Nosrac | Oh |
| 04:05.07 | daemoen | one sec |
| 04:05.08 | Nosrac | the PvP? |
| 04:05.14 | daemoen | i unno, lol |
| 04:05.27 | Pkekyo | yay, only 12 more stacks of adamantite to farm |
| 04:05.31 | Nosrac | Yeah |
| 04:05.36 | Nosrac | It'll show if they're pvp'd or not |
| 04:05.51 | Nosrac | go into Modules and disable PvP |
| 04:05.52 | daemoen | if you look at my original screenshot, its the little thing that looked like a 99.5% shrunk wow icon, lol |
| 04:05.54 | daemoen | kk |
| 04:05.56 | daemoen | ty :-D |
| 04:05.59 | Nosrac | You bet |
| 04:06.07 | daemoen | im tweaking things down for sake of memory |
| 04:06.12 | daemoen | i dont like being lower than 30 fps |
| 04:06.21 | daemoen | even if it is a laptop with a 64mb card, hehe |
| 04:06.33 | Nosrac | Ah, I doubt that will save you ANY fps |
| 04:06.44 | Pkekyo | hmm...death wish + recklessness on curator sounds like fun :> |
| 04:06.47 | daemoen | no, but its annoying me :p |
| 04:06.48 | daemoen | lol |
| 04:07.08 | Nosrac | ah lol |
| 04:07.17 | Pkekyo | gotta bribe some GM to let me into a kara raid |
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| 04:07.34 | dreamss | anyway to make omen only show up when in raid or grp |
| 04:07.45 | Nosrac | Kaelten, do you think I could get SVN access =D? I'd like to pop up an addon I made today =D |
| 04:07.47 | kaiden | bleh, so, quick question, by the looks of it and i want to be sure, bEQL says that it has a tracker built in, but it doesn't? :) |
| 04:07.48 | Antiarc | It should do that by default |
| 04:07.50 | Antiarc | Unless you're a pet class |
| 04:08.24 | Nosrac | Kaelten, if not that's fine |
| 04:08.42 | Nosrac | I understand you have more important things to do with the 'trampoline incident' ;-P |
| 04:09.09 | kaiden | Nosrac, i think there should be a section explaining how to get svn access but it may have disappeared with the trampoline |
| 04:09.12 | Kaelten | Nosrac: sent in a request via email? |
| 04:09.29 | daemoen | brb |
| 04:09.30 | Nosrac | I haven't, I looked for it earlier today but i couldn't find it =( |
| 04:09.43 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 04:09.44 | Kaelten | :) |
| 04:09.46 | Nosrac | There was the standard SVN for Idiots, Beginners, but no more authors |
| 04:09.56 | Nosrac | =D |
| 04:09.56 | Nosrac | Thanks |
| 04:10.05 | Pkekyo | CAUTION! CAUTION! --> porr och godis! Thank you, that is all. |
| 04:11.21 | Pkekyo | is it possible to make Cartographer_Mining note how many times you've farmed a certain node? |
| 04:13.10 | Pkekyo | kergoth here? |
| 04:13.27 | vithos | hyperChipmunk: "take cash" just hung me, not sure if that "take all" change was supposed to fix cash |
| 04:14.55 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43347 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:14.55 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 04:14.55 | CIA-22 | - Moved judgement damage to judgement ability based on current active seal (in preparation for adding seal damages on seals) |
| 04:14.55 | CIA-22 | - Added initially Seal of Righteousness |
| 04:14.55 | CIA-22 | - Adjusted melee hit/crit calculations |
| 04:15.45 | Pkekyo | WTB DrDamage with meelee functionality |
| 04:15.50 | Nosrac | lol |
| 04:15.56 | Pkekyo | it has meelee functionallity now? |
| 04:16.04 | Killmore | yep |
| 04:16.05 | Pkekyo | geif |
| 04:16.13 | sdouble | pay up |
| 04:16.47 | Nosrac | haha |
| 04:16.47 | Pkekyo | when did it get meelee? |
| 04:16.52 | Nosrac | within a week ;-P |
| 04:17.03 | Pkekyo | asked about it just a few days ago and got a crude "no" as an answer |
| 04:17.10 | Nosrac | weird |
| 04:17.28 | NightHawkTheSane | people here just like giving crude "no"'s, it makes us happy in the pants. |
| 04:17.36 | Nosrac | =D |
| 04:17.53 | Pkekyo | =( geif happy in the pants |
| 04:17.57 | Wobwork | no |
| 04:17.59 | Pkekyo | I HAS SUN IN PANTS MOUNTAIN |
| 04:18.17 | Pkekyo | jeez |
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| 04:19.28 | kergoth | Pkekyo, somewhat |
| 04:19.50 | Pkekyo | somewhat what? |
| 04:20.00 | Pkekyo | aah, right, I asked if you were here |
| 04:20.06 | kergoth | indeed |
| 04:20.08 | Pkekyo | you're the author if cart_mining, no? |
| 04:21.48 | Pkekyo | is it possible to get it to count how many times you mine a certain node? |
| 04:22.36 | Nosrac | No, but you might like Cartographer_Stats |
| 04:22.48 | Pkekyo | what does it do? |
| 04:22.57 | Pkekyo | the same thing I want in a standalone addon? |
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| 04:23.45 | Nosrac | Well Cartographer_Stats shows you the best (most populated) place for nodes (mining, fish, herbs, treasures, etc.) |
| 04:24.15 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 04:24.28 | Pkekyo | so it doesn't record anything? |
| 04:24.38 | Nosrac | Nah, it uses Cart_Mining Data |
| 04:25.10 | Pkekyo | so it says where there's most cart_mining icons? |
| 04:25.41 | Nosrac | yep |
| 04:25.44 | Nosrac | basically |
| 04:26.26 | Pkekyo | well, that doesn't help at all when I've gotten that superbuffed cart_mining.lua, does it? |
| 04:27.38 | Nosrac | Well, the Stats will show you the best place to go for it (As in it'll say like 20% of all the Copper is in The Barrens, but the closest to that is 2% found in Orgrimmar) |
| 04:27.42 | Nosrac | or something similar |
| 04:29.15 | Andune | nosrac: I think what pkekyo is saying, and what I've found also, is that if you download the super DB off the web, stats doesn't seem to look at the data |
| 04:29.35 | Andune | it only seems to track nodes that you've actually mined yourself. How that's possible, I don't know. |
| 04:29.37 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43348 10BigWigs/ (33 files in 6 dirs): |
| 04:29.37 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 04:29.37 | CIA-22 | - trigger tweaks, things might break |
| 04:29.37 | CIA-22 | - fixes to the Winterchill module |
| 04:30.31 | Nosrac | That could be, I've never looked at it that closely. Although, I sware I've gotten on a lvl 1 miner and saw all the different types of nodes. I do err though ;-) |
| 04:30.39 | Pkekyo | Andune: if it only tracks nodes I mine myself, it's exactly what I want |
| 04:31.14 | Andune | pkekyo: shrug, give it a try. I wanted the opposite, and last time I looked stats was only showing the nodes I had mined myself. |
| 04:31.42 | Andune | I wanted to download a super DB and find out where the most common place anyone had ever found fel iron, for example. Didn't seem to do that for me. |
| 04:31.44 | Nosrac | daemoen I know other people have ran WoW in linux, I dunno how, exactly, though |
| 04:31.52 | Pkekyo | Andune: nah, for me it does what you wanted |
| 04:32.12 | Andune | pkekyo: well I'll have to look at it again, 'cuz that's what I was hoping it would do :) |
| 04:32.32 | Andune | daemoen: over a CIFS share? eek. |
| 04:32.33 | Daemoen | Nosrac: ive run wow in linux before |
| 04:32.45 | Nosrac | Ah, I catcha now. Sorry bout that ;-P |
| 04:32.47 | Daemoen | im debating if i should just share my windows partition data to my fedora partition |
| 04:32.54 | Daemoen | or if i should do a real install |
| 04:32.54 | wereHamster | Daemoen, http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine |
| 04:33.13 | Daemoen | Im a systems engineer :p, i dont need no damn wiki |
| 04:33.20 | Daemoen | especially about wine, lol |
| 04:33.22 | Andune | Daemoen: Ah so it would be local share at least, not really over the network. |
| 04:33.25 | Nosrac | lol |
| 04:33.45 | Daemoen | correct. sorry, ntfs share, not cifs |
| 04:33.49 | Daemoen | bah, stupid damn acronyms |
| 04:33.59 | Nosrac | lol |
| 04:34.10 | Andune | Daemoen: I don't think the NTFS driver performance is that great. It's been marked 'unstable' forever, I think they're just happy it works at all. |
| 04:34.19 | Daemoen | lol |
| 04:34.23 | Daemoen | depends on which ntfs driver you use |
| 04:34.38 | Daemoen | ntfs-3g is the most advanced one out right now, and supports full read and write access |
| 04:34.46 | Daemoen | the downside is that it doesnt handle permissions well right now |
| 04:34.56 | Andune | Well I'd say give it a shot. If it doesn't work, then cp -r it to a native linux system. Can't hurt to try, unless you're hard up on disk space. |
| 04:35.10 | wereHamster | Daemoen, if you are familiar with wine than fine, but there are things you won't find out on your own (like the FPS boost ...) |
| 04:35.12 | durcyn | rather hard to handle permissions without an idmap |
| 04:35.16 | kaiden | bleh, so, quick question, by the looks of it and i want to be sure, bEQL says that it has a tracker built in, but it doesn't? :) |
| 04:35.30 | Daemoen | wereHamster: you mean the change in the wine conf to use the opengl settings ;) |
| 04:35.40 | Andune | When I tried it under Linux, I just rsync'd it over from Windows and ran it locally. I wanted to minimize any bottlenecks from the start. Never did try it over NTFS |
| 04:36.01 | wereHamster | ... DisabledExtensions |
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| 04:36.14 | Andune | I think my biggest reason tho was the NTFS driver write functionality being marked unstable, and knowing that mods write back to their SavedVariables directory. |
| 04:36.41 | Andune | So if ntfs-3g fixes that, give it a go and let us know how it works :) |
| 04:37.03 | Daemoen | the problem you would probably run into is the path settings |
| 04:37.14 | Daemoen | all of the saved variable data uses c:\ and etcetera, right? |
| 04:37.18 | CIA-22 | 03caldar * r43349 10nQuestLog/modules/Notifications.lua: nQuestLog - applied fieroivan's patch to fix quest complete notification. |
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| 04:37.38 | Andune | Just put a symlink in your Wine directory to the real one mounted under NTFS somewhere. |
| 04:38.03 | Daemoen | Ill test that out later when I have a bit more time. |
| 04:38.18 | Daemoen | prolly this coming weekend, see what kind of performance i can get out of it |
| 04:38.37 | Daemoen | but as wereHamster said, it might be a bit difficult due to the extensions |
| 04:39.05 | wereHamster | Andune, I don't think that willwork, wine needs special dlls and if you point the wine C:\ to the windows drive it won't find these special dlls |
| 04:39.28 | Daemoen | wereHamster: not specifically pointing to the windows C drive, just the Wow folder |
| 04:39.30 | Andune | not all of Wine, just your c:\WorldOfWarcraft directory, or wherever you installed it. |
| 04:39.55 | Andune | works fine. I had WoW sitting in my home directory (ext3) and just linked to it. |
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| 04:40.50 | wereHamster | Youdon't need to do any symlinks AFAIK, I just started it from wherever it is (and it shouldn't matter if it sits on XFS or NTFS) |
| 04:41.12 | Andune | even better :) |
| 04:42.18 | Andune | sadly, despite all the performance settings on the Wiki and incessant diddling with it, I could only get about just shy of 30 fps on my hardware under Linux |
| 04:42.19 | [FH]Birdemani | hey, quick question |
| 04:42.32 | Andune | where Windows was getting 60-70 on same hardware. |
| 04:42.53 | [FH]Birdemani | on spam macro for heroic strike and sunder, do i want it to be two /cast commands or /castrandom |
| 04:43.00 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 04:43.10 | Andune | and sometimes under heavy load in raids, Windows drops to sub-30, so the hit would have been painful under Linux. |
| 04:44.02 | wereHamster | Daemoen, if you are an engineer then you'd probably be interested in a special version of wine with WoW-specific changes (like.. a workaround for a bug Blizzard refuses to fix) |
| 04:44.51 | kaiden | guestion for you "winers" that run wow in linux, is the fps comparable to windows running it? |
| 04:45.08 | Andune | wereHamster: separate from Cedega, but not part of mainstream codebase yet? |
| 04:45.33 | Andune | kaiden: some pple here have been very successful at it. In my case, my Linux performance was about half my Windows FPS |
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| 04:46.00 | Andune | kaiden: I get the impression it depends heavily on the hardware you use and how well the binary drivers from the vendor happen to be implemented for that hardware. |
| 04:46.06 | wereHamster | Andune, a patchset on top of vanilla wine that Imaintain |
| 04:46.25 | kaiden | Andune, pretty good hardware, asus crosshair, amd x2 6000+, 4gb of ram, 7950 gtoc card |
| 04:46.42 | kaiden | i've never ran linux in anything other than a server environment, or when i was screwing with beryl |
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| 04:47.37 | Andune | kaiden: better than what I've got. I don't know if newer hardware or slightly older hardware is supported better. Best thing to do is partition off some room and give it a whirl. |
| 04:48.10 | Andune | Distro is your religion of choice, I've lately been fond of Ubuntu, and their Wiki on how to setup WoW under Linux is pretty comprehensive. |
| 04:48.27 | kaiden | Andune, yeah that problem i had a while back when i went to switch was the latest kernel cox had out didn't support my Intel Dual-Core 2 chipset |
| 04:48.29 | kaiden | was rough |
| 04:48.36 | kaiden | i'm an ubuntu whore ;) |
| 04:48.50 | kaiden | the only time i dont run ubuntu is on my vmware esx boxes, that's CentOS |
| 04:48.57 | wereHamster | .. if you are in interested in the patchset, pm me, I'llhave to leave now but I will reply when I come back fromwork |
| 04:49.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 04:49.21 | sag_ich_nicht | go fix it |
| 04:49.32 | Andune | kaiden: worst part is if you happen to have "fakeraid" and you've already utilized it on Windows |
| 04:50.04 | Andune | kaiden: even under Fiesty, Ubuntu's out-of-the-box support for it is shit. You gotta jump through a bunch of hoops to get it to work right. |
| 04:50.09 | sylvanaar | finally - my goggles |
| 04:50.29 | kaiden | Andune, ugh ;( yeah i'm running 2 320gb striped as my main "drive" |
| 04:50.45 | kaiden | i've found this method increases my data transfer rate by about 40mb/s |
| 04:51.18 | Andune | kaiden: well the good news, it's easier under Feisty. I futzed with it for days under Edgy before I gave up. I at least got it working under Feisty, there's a decent Wiki for it. |
| 04:51.32 | RandomError | Is there a way to make all entries look aligned like in table in WoW dropdown menu? |
| 04:51.34 | Daemoen | wereHamster: special wine release? |
| 04:51.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalestab Antiarc |
| 04:51.42 | purl | ACTION stabs Antiarc with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 04:51.51 | Daemoen | when i was running wow on my laptop under linux, my fps was higher |
| 04:52.01 | *** join/#wowace Margus (n=chatzill@gve-gix-bbcs-dynip-154-098.vtx.ch) |
| 04:52.23 | kaiden | Andune, my only problem is i'm such an experimenter, i'll spend all of my time compiling enlightenment, or beryl or recompiling beryl |
| 04:52.32 | kaiden | and constantly reimage my system due to screwing something up ;p |
| 04:52.42 | Andune | kaiden: I lost a few days to Beryl too. Love it tho :) |
| 04:52.50 | kaiden | beryl is what sex is made of |
| 04:52.54 | kaiden | has to be |
| 04:52.57 | Andune | actually it's just compiz is now. They're merging. |
| 04:53.01 | Nosrac | No no no |
| 04:53.03 | kaiden | serious? |
| 04:53.04 | Nosrac | You've got it all wrong |
| 04:53.09 | Nosrac | Sex is what Beryl is made of |
| 04:53.24 | kaiden | that must be a big relief to the beryl team |
| 04:53.47 | Margus | ckknight: are you there? :D |
| 04:53.47 | Daemoen | kaiden: http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/ |
| 04:53.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r43350 10CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip_Appearance - check unit existence. |
| 04:54.00 | Andune | more a big relief to the community. Both had great things to offer, was a shame to have them diverge and have to pick one. |
| 04:54.00 | ckknight | Margus: I have never left you, child |
| 04:54.01 | Daemoen | you might like to take a look at that if you do even HALF as much mucking with your systems as i do :-D |
| 04:54.05 | Nosrac | CIA seems to think so |
| 04:54.06 | Margus | :D |
| 04:54.08 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 04:54.15 | Daemoen | bah... half as much with your systems as i do mine |
| 04:54.20 | Andune | ckknight: lol |
| 04:54.47 | Margus | ckknight: what about the fading bug on World Objects? :D |
| 04:54.52 | kaiden | Daemoen, i actually use a pretty pricey rapid deployment system |
| 04:54.55 | kaiden | from my work |
| 04:54.57 | Daemoen | ahh |
| 04:54.58 | ckknight | Margus: which bug would that be? |
| 04:55.02 | Daemoen | just be careful about licensing :p |
| 04:55.07 | Daemoen | i always get all the free stuff :-D |
| 04:55.12 | Daemoen | that way i dont have to worry bout crap |
| 04:55.19 | kaiden | Daemoen, we paid many thousands of dollars for this ;) |
| 04:55.23 | kaiden | i am ok with licensing hehe |
| 04:55.26 | Daemoen | lol |
| 04:55.30 | Margus | ckknight: dunno if it's only me but I got a ~3s delay from moving the cursor off a WO and fading |
| 04:55.49 | ckknight | Margus: yea, it's actually 2 seconds. And it can't be helped |
| 04:55.51 | kaiden | i love it, i can just latch onto the system and create a golden image and then anytime i screw it up tell my system to redeploy and it'll wipe and redeploy in minutes |
| 04:55.52 | Daemoen | i suppose i really really really should get around to legalizing all of my windows software, but good god, that would cost almost a years salary, lol |
| 04:56.07 | Margus | ckknight: already thought it's currently not fixable :D |
| 04:56.15 | Daemoen | kaiden: basically the same thing that ghost does |
| 04:56.26 | kaiden | Daemoen, the way i see it is, small programs that dont cost an arm and a leg it's safe to legalize |
| 04:56.29 | Daemoen | uses a tftp server to perform network based imaging and installation |
| 04:56.34 | kaiden | shit like adobe.. it's retarded to pay that much for that product |
| 04:56.34 | kaiden | :P |
| 04:56.47 | Daemoen | lets see... i have adobe master suite (cs3)... |
| 04:56.51 | kaiden | i own all of my "useful but affordable" software ;) |
| 04:56.59 | kaiden | i sadly even own a copy of mIRC heh |
| 04:57.02 | Daemoen | i have windows vista ultimate (32 and 64 bit) |
| 04:57.07 | Daemoen | and a bunch of other fun toys :-D |
| 04:57.10 | Nosrac | Colloquy all the way ;-D |
| 04:57.11 | kaiden | msdn developer |
| 04:57.22 | kaiden | so i get free keys to all ms products ;) |
| 04:57.25 | Daemoen | i used to do msdn development, stopped that crap |
| 04:57.27 | Daemoen | i cant stand microsoft |
| 04:57.28 | Nosrac | nice lol |
| 04:57.33 | Daemoen | i worked for them a while back... |
| 04:57.40 | kaiden | Daemoen, which division? |
| 04:57.43 | Daemoen | i know exactly how they get a fair bit of their code |
| 04:58.01 | Nosrac | Zomg!! Zomg!!! |
| 04:58.05 | Margus | ! |
| 04:58.06 | kaiden | Daemoen, by buying up companies :) |
| 04:58.07 | ckknight | Margus: lol |
| 04:58.10 | kaiden | just like every large company does |
| 04:58.15 | Daemoen | kaiden: thats only part of it. |
| 04:58.18 | Margus | Parrot just totally fits my needs :D |
| 04:58.26 | ckknight | Margus: it's still alpha |
| 04:58.36 | Daemoen | they also quite literally take code straight out of gpl programs that have functionality that they want and put it right straight into their system |
| 04:58.46 | Nosrac | Ckknight remember, Ckknight Alpha = Standard Fully Finished Addon |
| 04:58.51 | kaiden | i dont think i'd go as far as calling them thieves |
| 04:58.51 | ckknight | lol. |
| 04:58.54 | Margus | ckknight: yeah ofc, some things are maybe missing like custom events or filters |
| 04:58.59 | Margus | but it rocks :> |
| 04:59.00 | Daemoen | i would |
| 04:59.14 | ckknight | Margus: actually you could add those if you wanted, but in lua |
| 04:59.15 | ckknight | it's very hackable |
| 04:59.15 | Nosrac | ckknight, what do you use for SVN Uploading ? |
| 04:59.22 | Daemoen | you should go look around for some of the old 2k source leaks and then search around for some of the earlier gpl programs |
| 04:59.26 | Daemoen | its quite an interesting comparison |
| 04:59.28 | ckknight | Nosrac: TextMate or plain svn commandline |
| 04:59.36 | Nosrac | Hmmm kk |
| 04:59.38 | Margus | ckknight: yeah I'm already working on it :D |
| 04:59.48 | ckknight | Margus: what would you want to add? |
| 04:59.56 | Nosrac | I asked for SVN privileges today, not sure how I want to upload ;-P |
| 05:00.09 | Daemoen | Nosrac: eclipse all the way! :-D |
| 05:00.13 | Margus | ckknight: an Overpower alert would be quite nice and a healing filter for heals like Bloodthirst |
| 05:00.29 | ckknight | oh, that's different from custom events |
| 05:00.33 | ckknight | those fall under triggers |
| 05:00.35 | Nosrac | Daemoen Hmmm |
| 05:00.38 | ckknight | which aren't quite in yet |
| 05:00.40 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r43351 10WeaponRebuff/ (Readme.txt WeaponRebuff-Core.lua WeaponRebuff.toc): |
| 05:00.40 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 05:00.40 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.28 | Margus | ckknight: np, currently playing fury so I don't use overpower anyway but it's nice for playing arena :D |
| 05:02.01 | Nosrac | Daemoen, Ckknight I'm thinking of using Cyberduck, either of you guys (or other mac users i'm leaving out) tried it? |
| 05:02.09 | ckknight | never heard of it |
| 05:02.19 | Nosrac | lol |
| 05:02.24 | ckknight | Nosrac: there's actually quite a few macheads around |
| 05:02.34 | Nosrac | Yeah, I've noticed that |
| 05:02.47 | Daemoen | Nosrac: im not able to play with mac right now :( |
| 05:02.54 | Nosrac | It was a positive surprise ;-P |
| 05:02.55 | Daemoen | thinking about setting up tiger in a vm, just fun sgs |
| 05:02.57 | Nosrac | ouch |
| 05:03.21 | Daemoen | might be kinda fun to see how well tiger would handle in a vmware installation, lol |
| 05:03.27 | Nosrac | lol |
| 05:04.09 | Nosrac | lol |
| 05:05.30 | kaiden | Daemoen, there's no need to run vmware to install osx on an x86 machine |
| 05:05.36 | Daemoen | i know |
| 05:05.38 | kaiden | it's quite possible these days without emulating :) |
| 05:05.47 | Daemoen | but i dont want to have to uninstall any of my other 12 machines :p |
| 05:05.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Nosrac: cyberduck's lame. Use transmit |
| 05:05.52 | kaiden | and actually from what i heard, runs everything except ppc code as well as a intel mac does |
| 05:05.54 | syeren | ckknight, you know how you have debuff filtering on Pitbull? |
| 05:06.11 | ckknight | yea? |
| 05:06.11 | syeren | Is there anyway you can make it show debuffs you cause but can't cure? |
| 05:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | oh also |
| 05:06.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight |
| 05:06.16 | syeren | Weakened Soul for instance. |
| 05:06.16 | Nosrac | I'll take a little look at all of them ;-) |
| 05:06.18 | syeren | If you can do that. |
| 05:06.45 | Margus | hmm |
| 05:06.46 | sag_ich_nicht | the Judgements in Babble are wrong if got what antiarc said right, he tried to fix it but i think it's still broken :O |
| 05:07.10 | durcyn | sag_ich_nicht: how so? |
| 05:07.30 | Margus | something weird happened! |
| 05:07.39 | Daemoen | kaiden: which distro do you play with? |
| 05:08.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Go ask Antiarc not me :P end result is Threat-1.0 not catching them and thus not applying the 57 base aggro they should cause :P |
| 05:08.12 | kaiden | Daemoen, of? |
| 05:08.18 | kaiden | linux i'm assuming, atm none |
| 05:08.19 | Daemoen | linux :-D |
| 05:08.22 | Daemoen | awe |
| 05:08.26 | Daemoen | which do you normally use |
| 05:08.31 | kaiden | i am a horrible wow addict |
| 05:08.35 | Daemoen | you had mentioned playing with beryl and compiz |
| 05:08.38 | kaiden | every computer i can run an os on i play wow from |
| 05:08.48 | kaiden | yes, i used to use ubuntu when i would mess around and dual boot |
| 05:08.54 | Daemoen | oh god.... |
| 05:08.56 | kaiden | but now i have about 4tb of data stored and have no room |
| 05:09.09 | Daemoen | ubuntu... of all things |
| 05:09.17 | Daemoen | oh well :) |
| 05:09.18 | kaiden | meh, it served it's purpose :) |
| 05:09.22 | Daemoen | yeah |
| 05:09.25 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway, to quote antiarc "someone fix babble", and if that's not it... i'll stab antiarc. >< |
| 05:09.28 | Margus | can someone tell me why the "comparing tooltip" in my screenie doesn't look like me cowtip |
| 05:09.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and now |
| 05:09.29 | Margus | ? |
| 05:09.29 | Daemoen | im going to be using it for a custom distro |
| 05:09.30 | durcyn | because the world needs more Debian forks. |
| 05:09.31 | Margus | http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5151/wowscrnshot071007070644og0.jpg |
| 05:09.48 | Daemoen | only reason im going with ubuntu is because it is dummified linux |
| 05:09.55 | kaiden | i've also ran CentOS, SlackWare, SuSE, RedHat, YellowDog, Debian, and a few other distros |
| 05:10.00 | kaiden | for various projects in the past |
| 05:10.18 | Daemoen | I run centos on my servers, fedora on my laptops, and LFS on desktops :-D |
| 05:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | anything that carries the name red hat is a product from hell itself and must burn. |
| 05:10.24 | Blackout | Kaelten, i wrote a few little tools you might find handy for restoring your website |
| 05:10.39 | Blackout | http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/wikify/ |
| 05:10.42 | kaiden | sag_ich_nicht, at one point in time if you wanted a headacheless distro redhat was the only way :P |
| 05:10.49 | Blackout | http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/automated/ |
| 05:11.05 | kaiden | and fedora now, isn't so bad |
| 05:11.13 | Daemoen | fedora 7 has made many improvements |
| 05:11.16 | kaiden | Daemoen, LFS? haven't heard of that one |
| 05:11.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Daemoen: xp atm and debian etch in my VMware and openbsd on my firewall :P |
| 05:11.32 | kaiden | sounds like lucky fuck sticks linux ;p |
| 05:11.33 | Daemoen | Linux From Scratch |
| 05:11.34 | durcyn | Daemoen: no, he's right. I shit on RHEL. |
| 05:11.42 | kaiden | and yes there used to be a lucky fuck sticks distro :p |
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| 05:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:10] <kaiden> sag_ich_nicht, at one point in time if you wanted a headacheless distro redhat was the only way :P <--doesn't stop me from hating it with a passion |
| 05:12.19 | Daemoen | sag_ich_nicht: etch? it took debian YEARS to figure out how to pull etch out of the dirt to make it worthwhile |
| 05:12.24 | kaiden | sag_ich_nicht, dude.. the rlogin bug was the COOLEST and you know it |
| 05:12.25 | kaiden | haha |
| 05:12.26 | kaiden | ;P |
| 05:12.48 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 05:12.50 | kaiden | and we would have never had such an easily hackable distro if not for redhat |
| 05:12.51 | kaiden | ;p |
| 05:12.53 | durcyn | Daemoen: debian's problem is their release policy, not the software |
| 05:12.58 | Daemoen | debians excuse is that "we design our systems to be stable for years, so we dont go with anything new" the problem with that bs logic? Kernel issues get ignored |
| 05:13.06 | Daemoen | durcyn: the two go hand in hand? |
| 05:13.12 | durcyn | "stable on all platforms before we release it for any" is horseshit |
| 05:13.36 | Daemoen | kind of hard to make a decent release schedule when youre 4 years behind every other distro because of poor testing procedures |
| 05:13.44 | Daemoen | they just recently caught back up |
| 05:13.55 | Daemoen | and soon they will be years behind again, lol |
| 05:13.56 | Margus | ckknight: HALP! ;) |
| 05:14.00 | durcyn | this is the packaging policy, not the distribution as a whole |
| 05:14.06 | Nosrac | I'm off to bed. |
| 05:14.08 | Nosrac | Night everybody |
| 05:14.09 | ckknight | Margus: oh noes! |
| 05:14.12 | Margus | http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5151/wowscrnshot071007070644og0.jpg |
| 05:14.17 | Daemoen | night Nosrac |
| 05:14.20 | Margus | it looks teh weird! |
| 05:14.23 | durcyn | a package must be stable on -every- official arch before it is marked stable |
| 05:14.32 | Margus | @tooltip |
| 05:14.40 | durcyn | your new version of libfoo doesn't build on 68k? tough shit |
| 05:14.49 | Nosrac | Nice UI, Margus ;-) |
| 05:14.57 | Margus | Nosrac: thanks :D |
| 05:15.13 | ckknight | Margus: sorry, what's the issue? |
| 05:15.20 | Daemoen | Margus: is that fubar youre using? |
| 05:15.29 | Margus | ckknight: the comparing tooltip |
| 05:15.32 | Daemoen | or is that some other strange panel like thing around your map |
| 05:15.38 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:15.41 | ckknight | it's different |
| 05:15.42 | durcyn | that's performancefu on top |
| 05:15.42 | Margus | is it normal that it doesn't look like the normal one? |
| 05:15.51 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 05:15.55 | Benumbed | looks like fubar undocked and resized |
| 05:15.56 | Margus | Daemoen: Yes it's FuBar |
| 05:15.59 | ckknight | might fix that. |
| 05:16.07 | Margus | ckknight: kkthx :D |
| 05:16.33 | Margus | Isn't that severe so no need to hurry :D |
| 05:16.48 | *** part/#wowace Blackout (n=blackout@c58-108-228-169.fitzg1.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:16.50 | durcyn | it's not severe at all. |
| 05:17.27 | Daemoen | im curious... how do you guys manage to get bigger resolutions in wow than 12x8 ? |
| 05:17.38 | Daemoen | my monitor allows me to go to 14x9 and wow wont go that far, lol |
| 05:17.38 | Margus | Yeah, but I heard ckknight got nothing to do anyway ;) |
| 05:17.46 | durcyn | Daemoen: depends entirely on the monitor in the case of directx, at least |
| 05:17.57 | Margus | 16x12 here |
| 05:17.58 | Daemoen | hrm... |
| 05:18.14 | Margus | but it's a 19" CRT |
| 05:18.18 | Daemoen | so because im running my laptop through a flatpanel, wow will inherit the laptop's max resolution instead of the monitor... |
| 05:18.23 | Wobwork | ps |
| 05:18.25 | Wobwork | win |
| 05:18.25 | Wobwork | http://userpic.livejournal.com/63269181/4109179 |
| 05:18.28 | durcyn | the mac client i play from behaves similarly, if the resolution is available to the system, the game will snarf it |
| 05:18.29 | Margus | so he take any res up to 20x15 or something |
| 05:18.40 | durcyn | Daemoen: platform? |
| 05:18.43 | Daemoen | xp |
| 05:18.56 | Daemoen | radeon gfx |
| 05:19.01 | durcyn | make sure you have an inf for the external display and set it as display 1 in the control panel |
| 05:20.29 | durcyn | if windows doesn't know about the rez, wow certainly won't |
| 05:20.54 | Wobwork | hm |
| 05:21.07 | Margus | Ha know we finally know why nihilum is yelling FOR JUSTIN all the way :D |
| 05:21.54 | Margus | *now |
| 05:24.42 | Pkekyo | Margus |
| 05:24.54 | Pkekyo | that addon that sums up the stats of your equipment |
| 05:24.55 | Margus | Pkekyo: sup? |
| 05:24.59 | Pkekyo | what is it? |
| 05:25.03 | Margus | RatingBuster |
| 05:25.35 | Margus | best function of an addon ever implemented imo! |
| 05:25.35 | Pkekyo | sweet, cheers! |
| 05:25.35 | Margus | besides ck's addons ofc ;)) |
| 05:25.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:26.03 | Margus | ^^ |
| 05:26.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno, the stat summary is pretty good |
| 05:26.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd totally say its at least as useful as anything ckknight's done :P |
| 05:26.49 | Margus | :D |
| 05:27.02 | Margus | It really simplifies comparing two items |
| 05:27.05 | NightHawkTheSane | granted, its not nearly as well written :\ |
| 05:27.33 | Margus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:28.10 | Pkekyo | hahah |
| 05:28.33 | Pkekyo | what minimap do you have margus? |
| 05:28.39 | Margus | simpleMinimap |
| 05:29.18 | Margus | had Squeenix before but sM got that nice coord function :D |
| 05:29.18 | Trisorion | Will omen become inacurate if it is taking data from KTM and there is a KTM master target set |
| 05:30.27 | Margus | KTM sends data from one target only anyway? It just adds the threat to the list of the mob you got in Threat nor? |
| 05:30.45 | Margus | bit simplified ^^ |
| 05:31.14 | Trisorion | I was just doing Hydross and was 4k below the tank and pulled aggro- trying to figure out what caused it before I try to get the guild to switch to omen |
| 05:31.35 | ZealotOnAStick | what class are you? |
| 05:31.38 | Margus | I already pulled aggro off at hydross at a much lower value ^^ |
| 05:31.45 | Trisorion | Mage |
| 05:31.49 | ZealotOnAStick | and when was the aggro pull, precisely? |
| 05:31.59 | Trisorion | before the first aggro reset |
| 05:32.33 | Margus | hmm, maybe got some threat left over from the supply line? |
| 05:33.06 | Trisorion | That would make me go above the tank and not pull |
| 05:34.08 | Trisorion | I alsos saw the mage keeps aggro across fights/across aggro resets bug- but that is already known |
| 05:34.35 | Margus | you weren't in melee range I suppose? |
| 05:36.49 | Trisorion | I could of been |
| 05:37.05 | Trisorion | but it was 4k below tank, not 4k below pulling aggro |
| 05:37.38 | ZealotOnAStick | The tank was using Omen or KTM? |
| 05:38.05 | Trisorion | KTM I think |
| 05:38.43 | ZealotOnAStick | most likely scenario is that Omen was more accurate than KTM, for whatever reason, IMO. |
| 05:38.50 | ZealotOnAStick | however, ymmv. |
| 05:39.26 | Margus | just stop threat generation at 90% ;) |
| 05:39.41 | syeren | ckknight, on Pitbulls Debuffs, how can I change the size of the Spiral Text? |
| 05:39.43 | syeren | It's tiny >_> |
| 05:40.01 | ckknight | ah, gotta change the code... |
| 05:40.21 | Margus | Trisorion: and force your tank to use Omen/Threat ^^ |
| 05:40.46 | Margus | ckknight: you gotta do a lot of stuff, maybe you should invent the "32-hours-day"? :D |
| 05:41.03 | syeren | It's Ck's fault for creating this many addons :P! |
| 05:41.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. I'm debating un-RAIDing my RAID-0 array on my older system and using it as 2 seperate drives, but I'm not really sure. |
| 05:41.47 | sylvanaar | unraid it |
| 05:41.57 | sylvanaar | and dont look back |
| 05:42.09 | Margus | ZealotOnAStick: depends on the age of the hdds or their quality ^^ |
| 05:42.32 | Margus | and the data you store :D |
| 05:42.37 | ZealotOnAStick | they're good quality, have been solid for 6 years. Now, that's my concern . . . they've been active for 6 years. |
| 05:42.53 | Trisorion | How often are these mods updated... I update omen and 2 hours later there is a new one |
| 05:43.03 | Margus | Trisorion: often ^^ |
| 05:43.08 | sylvanaar | some more than others |
| 05:43.15 | sylvanaar | that;s why there are updaters |
| 05:43.24 | Trisorion | I got one |
| 05:43.31 | Trisorion | it rocks |
| 05:44.11 | Margus | ZealotOnAStick: 6yrs are much, they can die at every time they want so basically you have to decide how much you need the data on it, if its just *rasp* porn then you can pull a backup and let the RAID be RAID |
| 05:44.31 | Sole | nymbia: ping |
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| 05:46.25 | sylvanaar | they are probably slowing your machine down anyways |
| 05:46.39 | Margus | O.o |
| 05:46.40 | sylvanaar | depends on your controller |
| 05:46.57 | ZealotOnAStick | it's my older machine (this one, productivity/dev box). |
| 05:47.29 | Margus | sylvanaar: RAID-0 should never slow down your machine nor? |
| 05:47.53 | sylvanaar | it sure can |
| 05:48.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Margus: well, it's relative. Depends on what it's doing, and what it's comparative to. |
| 05:48.08 | Trisorion | have you ever used parrot? |
| 05:48.14 | Margus | Trisorion: using it |
| 05:48.29 | Trisorion | Margus: How does it compare to MSBT |
| 05:48.32 | sylvanaar | in the final analysis, raid is not worth the hassle |
| 05:48.47 | ckknight | Trisorion: Parrot's still in alpha, definitely not complete |
| 05:48.52 | Margus | Trisorion: never used MSBT ^^ |
| 05:48.55 | ckknight | Trisorion: but really, it's a clean room clone of MSBT |
| 05:49.10 | Sole | Antiarc: ping |
| 05:50.00 | sylvanaar | if you need speed, partition off the first 1/3 of your drive |
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| 05:52.57 | sylvanaar | you can even take the first 2G format it fat, and use it to store your page file. windows will optimize for parallel usage (you can do this on every drive you have it'll use em all) |
| 05:53.55 | Bam__ | anybody know of something similar to PerformanceFu that does not use Ace2? |
| 05:55.01 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 05:55.02 | Trisorion | similar in what way |
| 05:55.13 | ckknight | why? |
| 05:55.16 | Margus | Bam__: are you using the default action bar? |
| 05:55.43 | Bam__ | well just a performance monitor really... I cannot really see how much of the Ace2 CPU usage comes from my addon |
| 05:55.57 | ckknight | yea, use the blizz one on the action bar |
| 05:56.00 | Bam__ | Margus: well I could.. how come? |
| 05:56.19 | Trisorion | blizz has a cpu usage meter built in? |
| 05:56.20 | Bam__ | oh that... I have never been able to get that working... do you have to do something special? |
| 05:56.39 | Margus | TinyMainbarInfo from Curse? :D |
| 05:56.48 | Margus | but it doesn't show CPU usage |
| 05:57.33 | Margus | Could try Baud Manager |
| 05:57.38 | Sole | is there any real advantage to using an external module approach besides being able to delete the folder and never have the module appear in the options? |
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| 05:58.31 | Margus | You can check the mem used by a lib imo? |
| 05:58.34 | Bam__ | Margus: ok.. not heard of that.. is it on curse or wowinterface? |
| 05:58.47 | Margus | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/8409/ |
| 05:58.49 | Margus | there you go |
| 05:59.02 | Margus | hope it works for you :D |
| 05:59.09 | Bam__ | thanks |
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| 05:59.44 | Bam__ | oh it's pretty new |
| 06:01.08 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: got any link or how-to or something on the details of tiny partitions for page files in windows? |
| 06:02.27 | Trisorion | How profitable is it to extract gas clouds |
| 06:02.34 | Trisorion | even worth making the gun to do it? |
| 06:02.45 | Margus | oh man, I like those ppl, completely greened/blue'd up but a Merciless Gladiator shoulder xD |
| 06:03.39 | sylvanaar | just get a program like Acronis Disk Director |
| 06:04.03 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick ^^ its really easy to do |
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| 06:04.46 | sylvanaar | no |
| 06:05.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Daemoen: does it suck? |
| 06:05.10 | Daemoen | friggen school is using "scripts" to grade papers and tell students that they commited plagiarism... |
| 06:05.39 | Daemoen | we spend nearly 850/class/quarter for scripts to "judge" our work and evaluate it? |
| 06:05.48 | Wobwork | oh of course |
| 06:06.10 | Wobwork | It's not like the lecturers can take tiem out to .. y'know.. mark papers |
| 06:06.14 | Daemoen | How in the hell is a script going to know if we are commiting plagiarism, by determining the contextual usage of our town |
| 06:06.17 | Daemoen | bah |
| 06:06.18 | Daemoen | tone |
| 06:06.36 | Wobwork | granted, the plagarism scripts are usually better on code comparison =) |
| 06:06.49 | Bam__ | Baud Manager looks pretty good... but it only shows total CPU usage... that's not terribly useful :/ |
| 06:06.50 | Sole | ouch, guild just wiped at 22% on kael :( |
| 06:06.55 | Wobwork | but they're doing amazing things with those computer dooverlackies nowadays |
| 06:07.10 | sylvanaar | they have to contend with people purchasing thier term papers from india |
| 06:08.38 | Trisorion | What is a good cooldown bar mod? |
| 06:09.03 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r43352 10Proximo/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 06:09.03 | CIA-22 | Proximo : |
| 06:09.03 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Mmm, the Acronis apps look nice. |
| 06:10.43 | sylvanaar | yeah and its pretty cheap too |
| 06:10.52 | sylvanaar | like what $30 |
| 06:10.54 | Bam__ | ckknight: is the percentage CPU usage something you calculate in PerformanceFu? |
| 06:11.02 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:11.10 | Pkekyo | youtube --> Andrew W.K. - We Want Fun = win :> |
| 06:11.27 | Bam__ | ok.. do you just take a timeslice and measure it every x seconds? |
| 06:13.09 | Margus | Pkekyo: Andrew W.K. rocks :D |
| 06:14.46 | seba | is there a random function ? |
| 06:14.49 | Margus | but I currently stick to Exodus and Machine Head ^^ |
| 06:15.22 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:15.31 | seba | like a mathematical random |
| 06:15.44 | ckknight | seba: math.random |
| 06:15.59 | seba | thanks ! |
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| 06:20.16 | Trisorion | Hey joe |
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| 06:24.48 | Margus | ohnoez, no more new Warhammer40k stories with Ibram Gaunt :( |
| 06:25.18 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick oh they actually have a writeup |
| 06:25.23 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/resource/tips-tricks/2005/making-the-most-of-virtual-memory.html |
| 06:28.17 | Margus | Vista ReadyBoost ftw! |
| 06:28.35 | sylvanaar | they say use ntfs for the pagefile - but meh - i think fat16 is faster |
| 06:29.04 | sylvanaar | readyboost is so...wierd |
| 06:29.16 | Margus | why? |
| 06:29.40 | sylvanaar | dunno, such a strange concept |
| 06:29.41 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: yeah, I found a few different write-ups on it. |
| 06:30.00 | ZealotOnAStick | personally, when/if I get silly money just to play with . . . |
| 06:30.18 | sylvanaar | i might buy a flash drive to try it out and see how it performs |
| 06:30.19 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd like to get a 4GB solid state drive, and set the swap to that. |
| 06:30.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Is pitchlimit no longer around? |
| 06:31.00 | Margus | aye |
| 06:31.07 | Margus | will be back in 2.2 afaik |
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| 06:31.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Bah, I'm just happy I just got my second 70 :D |
| 06:32.12 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick just make a ramdisk then even better |
| 06:32.32 | art3mis | thats where my firefox cache resides ;) |
| 06:32.50 | art3mis | ramdisk cache makes web browsing so much less lame |
| 06:33.12 | sylvanaar | yeah im looking for a good ramdisk solution for vista atm |
| 06:33.45 | art3mis | theres a utility called "format" i believe ;) |
| 06:33.45 | sylvanaar | want to put my addon directory in it |
| 06:34.04 | sylvanaar | format what? |
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| 06:34.50 | sylvanaar | you me llf vista off my drive? |
| 06:35.01 | art3mis | heh yeah |
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| 06:35.18 | sylvanaar | i like vista tbh |
| 06:35.19 | art3mis | but as a side note |
| 06:35.23 | Kirkburn|afk | I like it too :) |
| 06:35.24 | Margus | oh, it got some nice features |
| 06:35.30 | art3mis | the acronis stuff is awesome for everything but servers |
| 06:35.52 | Margus | used the restore features many times :D |
| 06:35.59 | Kirkburn|afk | I need 4000g :/ |
| 06:36.10 | art3mis | heh i do consulting and too many people went racing for it right away |
| 06:36.23 | art3mis | now on one hand its good since it makes me gobs of cash |
| 06:36.45 | art3mis | but there's a point where you start to go insane fixing the same crap day in day because they just don't listen or learn |
| 06:37.07 | sylvanaar | heh yeah |
| 06:37.21 | Margus | remember, users will never listen! |
| 06:37.26 | art3mis | at sp1 im sure it wont be "as bad" |
| 06:37.30 | ZealotOnAStick | I was considering trying vista on this machine (have an "express upgrade" sitting around not being used at all), but then I went looking for vista-compatible versions of certain software I'd want. |
| 06:37.39 | art3mis | but out of the box the "security" features annoy me |
| 06:37.47 | sylvanaar | you just disable UAC and vista is great |
| 06:37.50 | ZealotOnAStick | too many deal breakers for me with no vista versions. |
| 06:37.57 | art3mis | well uac is one |
| 06:38.03 | BlackoutTheDrunk | great? consuming more resources ? |
| 06:38.13 | art3mis | the auto drm stuff is a feature im just not willing to deal with |
| 06:38.40 | sylvanaar | yeah, there is a little bs with delays in the file systems |
| 06:38.43 | sylvanaar | due to that |
| 06:38.51 | art3mis | not to mention the amount of OS overhead, now granted mem and storage are cheap but why would i want my dual 4000's to behave like they're p3-800s ;P |
| 06:39.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Don't disable UAC completely! |
| 06:39.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Disable just the prompts |
| 06:39.24 | Kirkburn|afk | (not that I even do that) |
| 06:39.26 | art3mis | they had the right idea of the seperation |
| 06:39.31 | sylvanaar | ? that all UAC is |
| 06:39.34 | art3mis | but they imp'd it bad |
| 06:39.38 | Kirkburn|afk | it most certainly isn't |
| 06:39.39 | Margus | User Access Control |
| 06:39.51 | art3mis | "you've downloaded a file would you like to run it?" "allow deny" |
| 06:39.53 | BlackoutTheDrunk | microsofts bad version of SU |
| 06:40.03 | Margus | ^^ |
| 06:40.06 | Margus | exactly :D |
| 06:40.06 | Kirkburn|afk | You all need to read up on what it is, btw |
| 06:40.12 | art3mis | "you've looked in the windows directory" "allow deny" |
| 06:40.26 | sylvanaar | no, my favorite |
| 06:40.29 | omega_ | "you've clicked your mouse" "allow deny" |
| 06:40.32 | Margus | Do you really want to start Calculator? |
| 06:40.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:40.38 | Margus | kkthxby |
| 06:40.45 | sylvanaar | you cant look in users\you\local |
| 06:40.52 | sylvanaar | denied |
| 06:40.57 | art3mis | that remidns me of the bios error for no keybaord detected Press F1 to continue or F2 for settings. |
| 06:41.03 | Margus | That feature is just unusable |
| 06:41.10 | Margus | It scares users |
| 06:41.15 | Kinkx | so whats the good features of Vista? Seems like it's trying just to babysit you |
| 06:41.22 | Margus | and annoys power users :D |
| 06:41.30 | Kirkburn|afk | sylvanaar, http://brandonlive.com/2007/02/06/more-secure-way-to-disable-uac-without-losing-protected-mode-ie/ |
| 06:41.36 | art3mis | well if you believe the hype dx10 |
| 06:41.40 | ZealotOnAStick | art3mis: you're thinking of the old MS-DOS/PC-DOS error. "Error: No keyboard detected. Press any key to continue." |
| 06:41.40 | sylvanaar | UAC needs app developers to all recode their apps |
| 06:41.45 | Margus | the automatic restore points when installing something are great imo |
| 06:41.50 | ckknight | Kinkx: it's shiny |
| 06:41.54 | Margus | they're really usable |
| 06:41.57 | Kirkburn|afk | sylvanaar, only because they coded them badly in the first place |
| 06:42.03 | art3mis | if you don't believe it, vista is pretty, but as for groundbreaking tech it's just not there |
| 06:42.15 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn|afk i just set my group policy not to prompt for elevation |
| 06:42.17 | art3mis | Margus: thats been around sicne ME |
| 06:42.18 | Kirkburn|afk | wow, that was a stupid comment art3mis |
| 06:42.21 | Wobwork | ... |
| 06:42.26 | Wobwork | That's what I have Compiz for |
| 06:42.28 | art3mis | Kirkburn|afk: how so? |
| 06:42.28 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn|afk its not that |
| 06:42.36 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn|afk MS changed the rules |
| 06:42.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Do you have any idea what's in Vista? |
| 06:42.46 | Kirkburn|afk | It's a hell of a lot more than "pretty" |
| 06:42.49 | Margus | Kirkburn|afk: shite :D |
| 06:42.52 | art3mis | a bunch of crap i don't need? |
| 06:43.01 | NightHawkTheSane | a bunch of crap that's been done before? |
| 06:43.04 | Kinkx | I would probably disable all the shiny parts, i'm not that big on shiny |
| 06:43.06 | Wobwork | from what I've heard, a lot of pointless reworking |
| 06:43.06 | NightHawkTheSane | and probably better. |
| 06:43.08 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not going to spend my time listing the stuff you should already know |
| 06:43.11 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: that too |
| 06:43.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh fuck you lot |
| 06:43.28 | sylvanaar | well the linux set claims everything MS suck |
| 06:43.30 | ckknight | nah, Vista's not all horrible |
| 06:43.31 | Wobwork | Kirkburn|afk: well, okay, what does vista do better than XP? |
| 06:43.38 | Wobwork | Cause I'd actually like to know |
| 06:43.49 | Wobwork | (before I shell out the cash) |
| 06:43.51 | ckknight | MS has good technology, imho |
| 06:43.54 | ckknight | good R&D |
| 06:43.56 | art3mis | for an end user office drone who got into computers because of this new fangled thing called the interweb and email... vista is an upgrade thats worth less than the shiny cd it's printed on |
| 06:44.02 | starlon | I just downgraded from Vista to Server 2003 |
| 06:44.18 | starlon | I ran it since it was released, and hated it. |
| 06:44.28 | sylvanaar | i love it |
| 06:44.29 | art3mis | yeah i ran it all through the beta |
| 06:44.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: there's a sizable difference between R&D/technology and released products, though |
| 06:44.35 | art3mis | disliked it at best |
| 06:44.36 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 06:44.39 | Margus | we evaluated vista with our shittiest users, no wai to use it in our office |
| 06:44.42 | ckknight | their released products aren't so great |
| 06:44.51 | ckknight | but if you've seen some of their tech, dang, it's nice |
| 06:44.53 | ckknight | like Singularity |
| 06:44.56 | ckknight | or Spec# |
| 06:45.02 | ckknight | sweet stuff |
| 06:45.10 | art3mis | although i will say that longhorn is pretty sexy, exchange 2k7 is a nice upgrade and office 2k7 is nic as well |
| 06:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i'll agree they've got solid tech research |
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| 06:45.25 | sylvanaar | i dont like the 2k7 menus |
| 06:45.27 | art3mis | but vista is not something i'd reccomend to deck jockies |
| 06:45.30 | Margus | yeah ex2k7 got some really nice features |
| 06:45.31 | sylvanaar | i cant find shit |
| 06:45.35 | NightHawkTheSane | but that's why google's as strong as they are, they've narrowed that gap between the R&D and usable products |
| 06:45.42 | Margus | ckknight: we got a problem sir! |
| 06:45.49 | starlon | I did like Vista's Explorer. |
| 06:45.50 | ckknight | oh? |
| 06:45.58 | starlon | That's the only thing I miss though. |
| 06:46.07 | Margus | CowTips item links seem a bit fucked :D |
| 06:46.08 | art3mis | sylvanaar: heh yeah, but thats you and me, the office drones LOVE how "easy" it is |
| 06:46.09 | Kinkx | I don't really see any good reason to upgrade to Vista from XP, at least not yet, maybe when SP3 is out and there are some use to having DX10 maybe |
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| 06:46.33 | art3mis | vista's explroer is one oft he things that annoyed me |
| 06:46.37 | art3mis | explorer |
| 06:46.40 | Dynom | SP1 is released this month |
| 06:46.40 | Wobwork | I have to agree in regards to dx10, it may all be well and good, but there's nothing that uses it yet |
| 06:46.47 | art3mis | course i liked fileman ;P |
| 06:46.51 | Wobwork | nothing worth playing with anyway |
| 06:47.25 | art3mis | long is to 2k3server as win2k was to nt4 |
| 06:47.47 | art3mis | im glad thier server tech is moving forward to being useful |
| 06:48.02 | art3mis | but if it weren't for exchange i'd still take nix over it |
| 06:48.32 | Wobwork | Singularity looks interesting |
| 06:48.38 | art3mis | i'd love for a nix version of exchagne to actually make a good honest attempt(not imap) |
| 06:48.48 | art3mis | singularity? |
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| 06:48.55 | Wobwork | art3mis: The MS version of Exchange hardly does that =P |
| 06:48.55 | Margus | I'd like to see a M$ server which I don't have to reboot every weekend |
| 06:49.01 | Wobwork | ftp://ftp.research.microsoft.com/pub/tr/TR-2005-135.pdf |
| 06:49.03 | [Ammo] | mornig |
| 06:49.04 | art3mis | Wobwork: hehe yeah |
| 06:49.23 | Margus | [Ammo] good day to you! |
| 06:49.47 | NightHawkTheSane | mourning. night. |
| 06:50.24 | art3mis | Margus: then yer doing it wrong ;P |
| 06:50.52 | art3mis | i'd be happy if my friggin 2k3 server would stop autoblocking my remote client whenever it feels like it at random |
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| 06:51.33 | Margus | dunno, we optimized everything imo but if we don't reboot our w2k3 server every weekend it starts to do strange things |
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| 06:52.03 | art3mis | meh i need to reinstall BES tomorrow |
| 06:52.08 | art3mis | that kind of makes me sad |
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| 06:53.38 | sylvanaar | is there a VMware which will run vista64 yet? |
| 06:53.38 | Margus | hmm |
| 06:53.43 | Margus | now it's getting weird |
| 06:54.24 | sylvanaar | i guess i could just make another partition for it and install it there to play with. rather not |
| 06:56.27 | Margus | someone else here with CowTip online and ingame? |
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| 07:00.38 | sylvanaar | oh sweet vmware player |
| 07:01.14 | Margus | VMWare is teh nice |
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| 07:01.39 | nevcairiel | Hm, is 2.1.3 going live today? |
| 07:01.46 | Margus | :( something ripped my item tooltips |
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| 07:02.25 | sylvanaar | guess it supports vista64 |
| 07:02.36 | Margus | should |
| 07:03.37 | sylvanaar | last version didnt |
| 07:03.45 | Margus | 6.0ish? |
| 07:04.02 | sylvanaar | they must have released 6 recently |
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| 07:04.47 | Margus | "New to Workstation 6 is the ability to create and deploy secure virtual machines (called ACEs)" |
| 07:04.53 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43353 10LittleWigs/ (7 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: add deDE translaations for tempestkeep and auchindoun by Farook |
| 07:04.53 | Margus | mmh Ace ;) |
| 07:05.06 | Trisorion | littlewigs lol? |
| 07:05.11 | Margus | Yeah |
| 07:05.17 | Margus | Bossmods for 5-man instances |
| 07:05.20 | Trisorion | ah |
| 07:05.57 | Dynom | yeh, rly nice one tbh |
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| 07:06.07 | Dynom | intergrates nicely into bigwigs |
| 07:06.26 | Trisorion | Medium Wigs- Heroics |
| 07:06.28 | [Ammo] | it's basically bigwigs modules for 5 mans |
| 07:06.33 | [Ammo] | they include the heroic timers as well |
| 07:06.38 | [Ammo] | (at least some do) |
| 07:07.12 | [Ammo] | they make me pay even less attention in 5 mans, which is nice for semi-afk instancning |
| 07:07.34 | Trisorion | Do they explain the fight to all the pugs |
| 07:07.43 | [Ammo] | ofcourse not |
| 07:08.42 | Trisorion | If one donates to ace where does the money go? |
| 07:09.10 | art3mis | haha |
| 07:09.13 | Margus | ck's pocket ofc! |
| 07:09.23 | ckknight | actually no |
| 07:09.25 | art3mis | an addon that just spams the instructions in a RL would be awesome |
| 07:09.36 | ckknight | Trisorion: if you donate to the wowace website, it goes to the website |
| 07:09.36 | art3mis | err RW |
| 07:09.55 | [Ammo] | art3mis: it's called /macro |
| 07:10.08 | ckknight | to pay for bandwidth mostly |
| 07:10.08 | Trisorion | If I donate to a link from a mod? |
| 07:10.10 | art3mis | [Ammo]: no i mean a click thingy interface |
| 07:10.16 | [Ammo] | and if you can't fit the instructions for 5 mans in 255 chars your instructions are too hard for the morons |
| 07:10.20 | art3mis | and it just runs through everything ;P |
| 07:10.37 | art3mis | my instructions for every fight....Shoot Kill and don't die. |
| 07:10.44 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 07:10.56 | [Ammo] | sometimes I come into an instnace I've maybe done once |
| 07:11.01 | [Ammo] | sethek, crypts or something |
| 07:11.08 | [Ammo] | and then it's hmm, what does this boss do? |
| 07:11.16 | art3mis | who cares ;) |
| 07:11.17 | [Ammo] | decision usually: burn it before it burns us |
| 07:11.23 | art3mis | shoot kill don't die will get ya through it |
| 07:11.24 | [Ammo] | and then go bonkers on the dps |
| 07:11.25 | art3mis | ;) |
| 07:11.46 | Margus | dps zergs 'em all |
| 07:11.51 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 07:12.00 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | is there any way i can get the number of sockets a piece of gear has? the only way i can think of is to scan its itemtooltip for the number of "%w+ Socket" |
| 07:12.01 | ckknight | Trisorion: depends on the author. Donations on my mods go to me |
| 07:12.06 | art3mis | if you've got a healadin that knows what hes doing |
| 07:12.16 | ckknight | Trisorion: basically, those donations pay for my wow account |
| 07:12.34 | ckknight | Trisorion: also, eventually, if I were to get enough (I'm nowhere close), I'd buy some more ram |
| 07:12.36 | [Ammo] | NM|Xinhuan|Guru: that's basically the only way qiuckly |
| 07:12.40 | art3mis | ckknight: so you make 15$ a month? |
| 07:12.47 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | :( |
| 07:12.51 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | its such an inefficient way |
| 07:12.51 | art3mis | nice! |
| 07:12.51 | ckknight | Margus: http://www.playorc.com |
| 07:12.57 | [Ammo] | NM|Xinhuan|Guru: the other way is to dig into the blizzard framexml and see how they do it for the socketingUI |
| 07:12.57 | ckknight | art3mis: roughly |
| 07:13.07 | ckknight | art3mis: been more recently since |
| 07:13.13 | ckknight | I put the donation buttons |
| 07:13.15 | art3mis | thats almost as good as just gold farming 800g for 60day time card ;P |
| 07:13.15 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i did - they have a event for SOCKET_ITEM_UPDATE or something |
| 07:13.16 | ckknight | not much more |
| 07:13.18 | Margus | ckknight: <3! |
| 07:13.25 | ckknight | Margus: ;-) |
| 07:13.27 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | which only fires when a UseContainerItem() is used on the item in question |
| 07:13.32 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | with a shift-right click |
| 07:13.38 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | which is a protected function |
| 07:13.55 | Margus | now I just need an orc-colored fleshlight (www.fleshlight.com) |
| 07:14.01 | art3mis | laugh |
| 07:14.13 | ckknight | lol, Margus |
| 07:14.17 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | and the socketing functions only work until SOCKET_CLOSE event is fired - which happens when you close the socketing UI frame :( |
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| 07:15.14 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.21 | art3mis | thats just downright funny |
| 07:15.36 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:15.45 | art3mis | yer link ;P |
| 07:15.57 | art3mis | thats what the centerfold playorc said |
| 07:16.46 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43354 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: add deDE translation by Farook |
| 07:16.48 | art3mis | hrm descisions descisions |
| 07:17.30 | art3mis | do i take apart my laptop and try and fix the hdd erro that only shows up in unix installs, install an MS OS or clean it up and sell it and buy a new one |
| 07:18.32 | Wobwork | Option C |
| 07:18.36 | Trisorion | I was reading the ace tutorial and they haid you print hello world for the first 5 paragraphs of explanantion then told you to delete it because it is not "ace like" (mod spamming char window) |
| 07:18.42 | Trisorion | What is "ace like" |
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| 07:18.59 | Wobwork | I'd point you to the What Is Ace page, but it may not be recovered =P |
| 07:19.16 | Trisorion | lol I hate this wiki |
| 07:19.26 | Trisorion | it makes me look stupid whenever i talk |
| 07:19.37 | Wobwork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_Ace |
| 07:19.48 | sylvanaar | who was asking about spamming instructions |
| 07:20.01 | sylvanaar | there is a mod called Tactics that does that |
| 07:20.02 | art3mis | Wobwork: yeah thats what im thinking |
| 07:20.03 | Wobwork | hm, dunno if that helps though |
| 07:20.30 | Trisorion | SVN ? |
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| 07:21.02 | sylvanaar | how bout get the support sw from the hdd manufacturere and run a check of the drive |
| 07:21.27 | Wobwork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:SVN |
| 07:21.32 | Daemoen | hey gys |
| 07:21.34 | Daemoen | which module is it that displays the bright text for spell damage done right above the player (prolly about a size 24 font) |
| 07:21.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 07:21.42 | Daemoen | ive turned off sct totally, turned off text module in pitbull |
| 07:21.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Office 2003, 2007, or OpenOffice.org? |
| 07:21.48 | art3mis | its a 15.4"(1280x1024) averatec 6210 60gb hdd, 768mb, wifi, 8xdvd-rw, 128mb(shared ATI Radeon M) AND it can play up to 3 movies on a single battery without powering up the OS |
| 07:21.50 | Daemoen | never had it before installing pitbull :-D |
| 07:21.55 | Wobwork | Daemon isn't that the blizz sct? |
| 07:22.05 | art3mis | i figure i can prolly get away with selling it for about $500 or so |
| 07:22.43 | Wobwork | art3mis: oh, it can be a flat out dvd player, can it? |
| 07:22.47 | Wobwork | that's kinda cool |
| 07:22.47 | Daemoen | it should be off totally |
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| 07:23.08 | Wobwork | I'm fairly sure that any text above individuals is the Blizzard SCT |
| 07:23.11 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick i use 2007 the menu's are all different |
| 07:23.17 | Wobwork | since we can't affect the environment like that |
| 07:23.25 | sylvanaar | yeah you can |
| 07:23.30 | Wobwork | well not easily |
| 07:23.37 | sylvanaar | you do it over thier nameplate |
| 07:23.39 | ckknight | lol: http://www.playorc.com/PLAY_ORC/Not_World_of_Warcraft_2.html <--- orc on elf porn |
| 07:23.44 | Trisorion | Daemon you should look at the How to get rid of those spell damage messages above the player page, im sure it exists |
| 07:23.58 | Daemoen | http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071007002208xy6.jpg |
| 07:24.10 | Daemoen | Trisorion: before i added pitbll it was completely gone |
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| 07:24.16 | sylvanaar | it doesnt work all the time of course |
| 07:24.41 | Trisorion | that could be MSBT? |
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| 07:24.56 | Daemoen | msbt? |
| 07:24.56 | Trisorion | hey moonwolf |
| 07:25.01 | Wobwork | ~msbt |
| 07:25.04 | purl | msbt is probably Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 07:25.04 | MoonWolf | hello\ |
| 07:25.23 | Daemoen | dont have that addon |
| 07:25.29 | Wobwork | sct? |
| 07:25.33 | Trisorion | holy crap I just realized, i talked to a guy name Mikk here yesterday, that must of been him |
| 07:25.42 | Daemoen | turned off. |
| 07:25.50 | Daemoen | rather... its supposedly trned off |
| 07:26.05 | Trisorion | Name your addons, (unless its like 30) |
| 07:26.08 | Wobwork | I don't think pitbull does that sort of thing |
| 07:26.08 | art3mis | Wobwork: yup portable dvd player |
| 07:26.08 | [Ammo] | ~mikk |
| 07:26.09 | purl | hmm... mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 07:26.10 | Wobwork | Parrot? |
| 07:26.14 | sylvanaar | oh allthat and you use plain chat |
| 07:26.23 | ckknight | also funny: http://www.playorc.com/PLAY_ORC/Not_World_of_Warcraft_3.html |
| 07:26.24 | art3mis | and it is rather awesome |
| 07:26.29 | ckknight | (but also porn) |
| 07:26.32 | art3mis | that was one fo the reasons i got it |
| 07:26.34 | Daemoen | hrm? |
| 07:27.11 | Daemoen | im still learning the different ui addons, i put bits and pieces together to make what works for me :-D and ck... good god, got enough raid member windows in pitbull? |
| 07:27.15 | Daemoen | :) |
| 07:27.28 | ckknight | raid1 through raid40 |
| 07:27.30 | art3mis | pitbull isnt meant for raiding ;P |
| 07:27.31 | Wobwork | meh, don't use pitbull for raid |
| 07:27.49 | Wobwork | overload of information you don't need |
| 07:27.52 | ZealotOnAStick | grid ftw |
| 07:27.52 | art3mis | thats about the point you'd be better off smashing yourself in the face with a hammer ;P |
| 07:28.06 | Trisorion | Just for fun i spent 20 mins putting eveyr possible windo on my screen in pitbull with interact lines on |
| 07:28.19 | ckknight | Wobwork is right, frankly |
| 07:28.25 | ckknight | PitBull is overkill for raid |
| 07:28.30 | ckknight | in most cases |
| 07:28.38 | kbh | its easy enough to skim donwn the pitbull frames to make them suitable lfor raid |
| 07:28.39 | art3mis | DaeMoen...buy it for looks buy it for life |
| 07:28.44 | Wobwork | unless you have a 30" screen =) |
| 07:28.45 | sylvanaar | yeah, pitbull has alot of frames, unless you make a layout |
| 07:28.56 | Biceps | I'm using RegisterChatCommands with a local array (as usual), but can't figure out how to make one of the options in my list take arguments (both in the dropdown and in / form) |
| 07:29.14 | art3mis | so i was mucking with sphere last night |
| 07:29.26 | art3mis | and i must say for an uber compact UF it's pretty rad |
| 07:29.36 | ckknight | Biceps: should be type = 'text' |
| 07:29.46 | Daemoen | interesting.... SCT (ace2) has a bug :-D |
| 07:29.50 | Biceps | Right, thanks |
| 07:29.54 | Daemoen | even when you disable the addon it still does the text, lol |
| 07:30.00 | ckknight | art3mis: didn't you hear? he stolezed it from LunarSphere |
| 07:30.01 | Daemoen | i had to turn it off in the addons |
| 07:30.05 | ckknight | well, not the code |
| 07:30.07 | ckknight | just the idea |
| 07:30.15 | ckknight | and added more onto it |
| 07:30.18 | ckknight | to be better |
| 07:30.22 | Trisorion | Who are these people like Cia-22 Who randomly come in with a report about a certain mod? |
| 07:30.23 | kbh | wtb nudge control with keypad and sticky bar toggle for bartender3 |
| 07:30.30 | Wobwork | CIA is a svn bot |
| 07:30.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:30.39 | Wobwork | s/he reports about svn commits |
| 07:30.43 | CIA-22 | ow |
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| 07:31.35 | Trisorion | SVN meaning Stadsvervoer Nederland? |
| 07:31.36 | sylvanaar | i could never get used to grid, i like big ass frames which take up the whole screen (well i did when i played a healer) |
| 07:31.47 | Daemoen | <---- managed to come up with a quazi decent layout for all of the raid options with PB :-D http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071007003023vd0.jpg |
| 07:31.54 | art3mis | ckknight: laugh who cares, its still kinna neat ;P |
| 07:32.17 | ckknight | art3mis: was being ironic. you know how I feel about stealing ideas |
| 07:32.20 | Daemoen | i like the configurator btw ckknight, makes it nice and easy :) |
| 07:32.26 | art3mis | sylvanaar: nods i dont much like grid either, its just too compact |
| 07:32.29 | ckknight | daemoen: :-) |
| 07:32.40 | art3mis | ckknight: ideas are there for the taking? |
| 07:32.47 | ckknight | Trisorion: Subversion is a source control system |
| 07:32.53 | ckknight | art3mis: look at all my mods. |
| 07:32.54 | Daemoen | just wish it was possible to be a bit more exact with the lining up of frame elements :-D |
| 07:32.59 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 07:33.02 | Trisorion | Go look for the forum topic named somthing like "Cool PitBull frame layouts" it has some nice raid configurations |
| 07:33.03 | art3mis | ckknight: im being fecitious ;P |
| 07:33.07 | ckknight | I'm not a big believer in original thought |
| 07:33.31 | ckknight | I steal other people's ideas and improve upon them in ways they did not think of or did not realize |
| 07:33.41 | Daemoen | Trisorion: its going to be a very very very long time before i get to do any raids |
| 07:33.47 | Daemoen | so im not too worried :) |
| 07:33.49 | ckknight | and that is my creativity, creating someting beatiful out of something ugly |
| 07:34.09 | art3mis | NUGGET SLUGS! |
| 07:34.24 | Trisorion | Ill give you 4$ for pitbull |
| 07:34.49 | art3mis | ckknight: now ifyou'd just get around to making an auto ui configurator ;P |
| 07:34.54 | ckknight | what about my other mods, Trisorion? |
| 07:34.59 | art3mis | actually that would be rather awesome |
| 07:35.05 | ckknight | art3mis: ? |
| 07:35.07 | art3mis | a standalone addition to WAU |
| 07:35.23 | sylvanaar | that did what? |
| 07:35.23 | Trisorion | If i gave you $4 for all of them id be living on the street |
| 07:35.26 | Trisorion | but ill see |
| 07:35.39 | ZealotOnAStick | something like a less spastic mazzlefier? |
| 07:35.52 | sylvanaar | i dont know what mazzlefier is |
| 07:35.55 | art3mis | gives you a blank screen layout, allows you to "virtually pick" addons so you can layout how they're gona look on screen in game, downloads them sets up the WTF stuff and then when you load wow poof it looks identical |
| 07:36.08 | sylvanaar | oic |
| 07:36.18 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: a completely out of game "installer" of sorts |
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| 07:36.24 | art3mis | THAT would be amazing |
| 07:36.28 | Biceps | I'd buy that for a dollar. |
| 07:36.55 | art3mis | hell charge 10-15$ for it as a "premium" WAU |
| 07:36.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd settle for finding some non-brute force method of getting my guildies to all run current Bigwigs/Omen/Buggrabber/sack |
| 07:37.00 | Trisorion | will mod authors accept non money donations |
| 07:37.14 | ckknight | Trisorion: like beer? |
| 07:37.28 | Trisorion | eh, i was thinking more like used video games |
| 07:37.33 | Trisorion | i have lots of them |
| 07:37.36 | Trisorion | but no money |
| 07:37.40 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: have you thought of playing "dreamweaver" on vent until they comply? |
| 07:37.48 | ckknight | lol, doubt it, I don't really play games |
| 07:37.57 | ckknight | I just code |
| 07:37.59 | ZealotOnAStick | nah. Much easier for me to just attempt to sing. |
| 07:38.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Besides, there's "mute" |
| 07:38.07 | art3mis | same diff heh |
| 07:38.15 | Trisorion | Make them get an updater- after all thats what they are for |
| 07:38.34 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r43355 10Yata/ (Localization.lua TotemData.lua): |
| 07:38.34 | CIA-22 | Yata: |
| 07:38.34 | CIA-22 | - koKR fix and add locale |
| 07:38.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Probably around half the guild uses WAU, and it's taken me a while to get it to that point. |
| 07:38.40 | art3mis | make a macro that prefaces everything you say ? |
| 07:38.42 | ZealotOnAStick | It |
| 07:38.53 | Daemoen | ckknight: holy shit. didnt realize just how customizable pb is :-D |
| 07:39.01 | ckknight | daemoen: lol, yea |
| 07:39.02 | ZealotOnAStick | It's just a few crucial bastards, like our second-best druid tank who doesn't run Omen, that's a problem. |
| 07:39.09 | art3mis | [G] Zealot: **good god go update those addons you lazy whores** so who's up for heroic SH? |
| 07:39.12 | ckknight | daemoen: feel free to post your results. |
| 07:39.36 | sylvanaar | why not just take the next step and do in-game updating |
| 07:39.45 | ckknight | daemoen: you can save a configuration as a layout and then export the layout to the forums |
| 07:39.46 | art3mis | like rdx? |
| 07:39.49 | Daemoen | after looking at those, im going to have to spend a few days playing with it before id even dare insult you guys with it :-D |
| 07:39.52 | sylvanaar | run from the sv's |
| 07:39.52 | ckknight | daemoen: or send it to friends ingame |
| 07:39.57 | Trisorion | Who made the updater? |
| 07:40.10 | art3mis | that was actually one of the things about rdx that made me happy/sad |
| 07:40.17 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: icky. Even with PKI or something, that's one of the least optimal methods I could imagine. |
| 07:40.19 | art3mis | i loved the auto modules updateing |
| 07:40.24 | art3mis | but at the same time it scared me |
| 07:40.30 | ckknight | daemoen: frankly, it could be more customizeable, with vertical bars and all sorts of craziness |
| 07:40.36 | ckknight | but ...meh, too little ROI |
| 07:40.45 | art3mis | sylvanaar: you and kael should work towards my configurator idea |
| 07:41.03 | art3mis | sylvanaar: you could make oodles of money if you could make that |
| 07:41.13 | sylvanaar | lol do you have any idea how much work that would be |
| 07:41.22 | art3mis | not that much ;P |
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| 07:41.32 | sylvanaar | lolwut |
| 07:41.40 | art3mis | oh sorry i dont think iw as totally clear |
| 07:41.41 | ckknight | that would take immense manhours. |
| 07:41.43 | ZealotOnAStick | a tremendous amount, actually, if you get into the configurability of some addons. |
| 07:41.53 | art3mis | i dont mean LOAD the addons for real |
| 07:42.11 | art3mis | the only thing the addons need to "show" is thier visable side |
| 07:42.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Hell, chuck PitBull, SCT/Parrot, FuBar+plugins, Grid at it . . . |
| 07:42.27 | art3mis | like where they sit and what they look like open for size scaling etc |
| 07:42.28 | ZealotOnAStick | that alone getting things configured is tons of variations. |
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| 07:43.00 | art3mis | although you could make a fake wow interface if you really wanted to ;P |
| 07:43.08 | art3mis | for all the goodness |
| 07:43.14 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ping |
| 07:43.19 | ckknight | art3mis: frankly, I think that'd be the easiest way |
| 07:43.20 | art3mis | but im thinking more long the lines of just layouts and such |
| 07:43.27 | ckknight | but if you do that... what's the point of not just running ingame? |
| 07:43.31 | art3mis | well |
| 07:43.45 | art3mis | because with the WAU integration you wouldnt need to load wow each time |
| 07:43.53 | ZealotOnAStick | that's why, IMO, we'll never see DUB. Too massive a project, Lozareth's never going to get it managed. |
| 07:43.59 | art3mis | you could "virtually select addons to see how they look/what they do |
| 07:44.24 | art3mis | im thinking of it more as a layout tool than anything |
| 07:44.46 | Trisorion | Is there a way to count how many times a person has done something in a mod- like record the number of times you have clicked on a mailbox |
| 07:44.54 | art3mis | so say i download a shitload of stuff i can create the layout i want without going into the game mucking for a while /rl'ing a shitload etc |
| 07:45.11 | ckknight | gnome on orc action: http://www.playorc.com/PLAY_ORC/Not_World_of_Warcraft_5.html |
| 07:45.17 | Dynom | Trisorion: there is an addon which records how many times you jumped |
| 07:45.27 | art3mis | with this thing i could select say PB as example, it would give me all the frames it makes i can move them around and "see" what my ui would look like |
| 07:45.36 | Dynom | Trisorion: on http://files.wowace.com maybe you can look into that |
| 07:45.40 | art3mis | before i DL it |
| 07:46.02 | art3mis | shrug |
| 07:46.10 | ckknight | too little ROI, art3mis |
| 07:46.10 | art3mis | *I* think it would be awesome, screw you guys! |
| 07:46.19 | art3mis | roi? |
| 07:46.44 | ZealotOnAStick | return on investment. |
| 07:46.50 | art3mis | ahh |
| 07:46.52 | art3mis | well not really |
| 07:46.56 | ZealotOnAStick | What's the practical benefit of the -massive- amount of time and effort it'd take for it? |
| 07:47.01 | art3mis | figure you sell it as wau premium ;P |
| 07:47.07 | sylvanaar | big ass job with no rewards because it'd be just as complicated to set up |
| 07:47.14 | art3mis | with 7 million players you're bound to make something off it ;P |
| 07:47.28 | sylvanaar | lots of pirated copies |
| 07:47.36 | art3mis | mainly because it gives someone something to do during maint for starters |
| 07:47.54 | art3mis | piracy is easy to get around ;P |
| 07:48.04 | art3mis | innerspace has a nice anti piracy thingy |
| 07:48.22 | art3mis | granted it takes a server check/login to even use it but still |
| 07:48.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd just rather see a good Jewel socketing preview/planner mod made, myself. |
| 07:48.43 | sylvanaar | if bliz made their UI renderer available in source form - maybe |
| 07:48.45 | art3mis | oo that would be neat too |
| 07:48.46 | ZealotOnAStick | That, and/or a successor to Sprocket. |
| 07:49.01 | art3mis | what was sproket btw? |
| 07:49.13 | ZealotOnAStick | pop-up radial menus |
| 07:49.17 | art3mis | ahh |
| 07:49.18 | sylvanaar | or even as a dll |
| 07:49.29 | sylvanaar | but otherwise you'd have to reverse engineer it |
| 07:49.32 | art3mis | sylvanaar: it sort of is |
| 07:50.02 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:50.02 | art3mis | *cough*mangos*cough* |
| 07:50.02 | sylvanaar | i dont relish hours with ida |
| 07:50.24 | art3mis | but really you dont need to do all that |
| 07:51.09 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone here do much arena? |
| 07:51.11 | art3mis | you just need to make a program that can get the "settings" for the frames(ie size) through in if they are resizable with a drag, pull screen size |
| 07:51.20 | art3mis | and "thats it" |
| 07:51.28 | art3mis | thats all it grabs from the addon itself |
| 07:51.42 | art3mis | then you get a window with said frames in it |
| 07:51.55 | art3mis | it marks the locations and saves those in wtf |
| 07:52.17 | art3mis | you leech said addons and when you start em the vector layout you used applies properly and it looks like it did in wireframe |
| 07:52.22 | ZealotOnAStick | you'd essentially need modules for each addon. |
| 07:52.31 | art3mis | to a dregree |
| 07:52.37 | art3mis | degree |
| 07:52.38 | Adirelle|Work | needing some volunteer to grammer/spell check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SimpleSelfRebuff :p |
| 07:52.54 | sylvanaar | er you'd need to know what parameters the thing would let you change |
| 07:53.19 | sylvanaar | what is FMOD |
| 07:53.26 | art3mis | MonitorS your own buffs and compares them against your selection. |
| 07:53.43 | sylvanaar | huh |
| 07:54.06 | Adirelle|Work | sylvanaar: art3mis is correcting my wiki page :p |
| 07:54.51 | art3mis | SSR provides a reminder, about missing |
| 07:54.55 | art3mis | comma |
| 07:55.37 | art3mis | thats all i noticed |
| 07:55.45 | art3mis | i do like the useage of Whilst ;P |
| 07:56.21 | Adirelle|Work | ? |
| 07:56.23 | art3mis | that comma may not be 100% correct, but i can't think of a better way to make it not sound run-on |
| 07:56.48 | sylvanaar | fmod is a dll in my wow directory - i think is some kind of sound streaming thing |
| 07:56.56 | Pkekyo | have TrinketMenu been Ace2'ed yet? |
| 07:58.01 | art3mis | SSR provides a reminder that can output warning in several ways (Blizzard chat and error, SCT, MikSBT) for missing or next-to-fade buffs. |
| 07:58.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Adirelle|Work: check your query window |
| 07:58.05 | art3mis | there that's better |
| 07:58.27 | simeng | sylvanaar: fmod is a generic (and pretty small) sound library |
| 07:58.40 | art3mis | err "warning" == "warnings" |
| 07:58.49 | Biceps | false |
| 07:58.55 | Biceps | ^^ |
| 07:58.56 | Adirelle|Work | ZealotOnAStick: got it, thx |
| 07:58.57 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:59.32 | art3mis | on a steeeeeeeeeeeeek |
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| 07:59.59 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r43356 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: fix typo |
| 08:00.20 | ZealotOnAStick | The ventriloquist/comedian who does that bit (with the cranky old man puppet, the jalepeno on a stick, etc) performed for my elemental school when I was in like 3rd or 4th grade. |
| 08:00.32 | art3mis | elemental? |
| 08:00.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Then over a decade later, I see him on Evening at the Improv |
| 08:00.46 | ZealotOnAStick | s/elemental/elementary |
| 08:00.49 | Adirelle|Work | art3mis: thx |
| 08:00.49 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:00.55 | art3mis | he's pretty good |
| 08:01.48 | art3mis | i dont think i went to school with anyone famous |
| 08:02.24 | ZealotOnAStick | didn't go to school with him, he just came and performed for us, I think for practice. |
| 08:03.12 | art3mis | yeah that too |
| 08:03.25 | art3mis | the big celeb i saw growing up was mr.dressup |
| 08:04.07 | art3mis | he brought casey and finnegan |
| 08:04.19 | art3mis | i was like 6 or 7 and it was awesome! |
| 08:04.48 | art3mis | thats the extend of people that are were to become famous or WERE famous passing through my town growing up ;P |
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| 08:05.06 | art3mis | oh cept for my neighbors dad, he used to play with mamas and the papas |
| 08:05.20 | art3mis | but back then i didnt know who they were |
| 08:06.44 | art3mis | Adirelle|Work: that line about the warning the word warning needs to be made pural |
| 08:06.55 | art3mis | can provide warnings |
| 08:09.50 | ZealotOnAStick | guh. I hate full system wipes/reinstalls without ghost images. |
| 08:10.28 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ping |
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| 08:11.31 | art3mis | yeah |
| 08:11.41 | art3mis | ghost is the bestestesterest |
| 08:11.47 | cryogen | Adirelle|Work: almost perfect now, just one thing, when i have prayer of fortitude and im tracking the single buff, it keeps wanting to recast the single buff and cant |
| 08:11.54 | cryogen | also i cant prove it but i think it's leaking memory |
| 08:12.11 | cryogen | something i installed recently is anyway, and thats one of the most recent |
| 08:13.09 | evl | Damnit |
| 08:13.14 | evl | everytime I code and I need to return void |
| 08:13.20 | evl | I keep writing voidreaver |
| 08:13.23 | evl | the obsession! |
| 08:13.31 | evl | precious loot wagon! |
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| 08:13.51 | Adirelle|Work | cryogen: about prayer of fortitude, is it *your* prayer ? or prayer from another priest against you *own* |
| 08:14.09 | Adirelle|Work | s/*own*/*own* PW: fort/ |
| 08:14.32 | cryogen | i dont think it matter, but i never actually thought about it |
| 08:14.34 | cryogen | +s |
| 08:15.14 | Adirelle|Work | actually it can make a difference |
| 08:15.40 | Dynom | mozilla |
| 08:15.41 | Dynom | mt |
| 08:16.18 | Adirelle|Work | well... according to the way it handled TSA before my last commit, I'm quite sure it will ignore other people buffs that you can cast yourself |
| 08:16.57 | cryogen | see im having trouble remembering since i was in a 5 man group with another priest at the time :) |
| 08:17.06 | Adirelle|Work | this is related to a change I made to try handling pally blessings |
| 08:17.23 | art3mis | welp ni ni |
| 08:17.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Someone entertain me. Go pick on Kenco or something. |
| 08:17.37 | Adirelle|Work | I meant *multiple* blessings |
| 08:17.37 | cryogen | its worth noting that if i disable binding and reenable it, it works |
| 08:17.48 | Adirelle|Work | oh... |
| 08:18.10 | Adirelle|Work | mousewheelbinding.lua's borked then :p |
| 08:18.10 | cryogen | so perhaps it doesnt trigger being buffed if it's someone else? |
| 08:18.26 | kbh | all that remains for my pirate outfit is the pants! |
| 08:18.32 | Adirelle|Work | well... just checks if the buff is considered missing |
| 08:18.38 | kbh | i cannot find them :( |
| 08:18.42 | cryogen | i can do some more testing tonight if you cant track it down before then |
| 08:19.20 | Adirelle|Work | well, I'm at work, and I should starting to work, really :p |
| 08:19.23 | Adirelle|Work | s/ting/t/ |
| 08:19.26 | cryogen | ditto :) |
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| 08:24.00 | sylvanaar | yikes "whois" |
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| 08:27.10 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ping |
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| 08:27.33 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43357 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 08:27.33 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:27.33 | CIA-22 | - Minor French update |
| 08:29.44 | Biceps | Anyone here familiar with cellular, code-wise? |
| 08:30.21 | Biceps | I'd like to output to cellular windows, if cellular is loaded and enabled. |
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| 08:32.28 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 08:33.10 | cryogen | ckknight: is there any reason pitbull's default layout, when auras are positioned at the top, really cant handle many many debuffs on a target? :) |
| 08:33.22 | cryogen | (and is there an easy way to make them fit?) |
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| 08:33.45 | abbat_w | Anyone here familiar with macros? It is possible to always show macron icon with #show? I try to make macro for pet Freeze, but if i use #show Freeze, macro icon looks like '?' and change icon to nova after i summon pet |
| 08:33.56 | abbat_w | But if no pet summoned, i have '?' icon |
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| 08:34.41 | Leialyn | why don't you use nova icon then? |
| 08:35.00 | Arrowmaster | abbat_w: #show probably only works well with your own spells since pet skills are only available when the pet is active |
| 08:35.11 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ping |
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| 08:35.21 | abbat_w | Leialyn, for cd tracking |
| 08:35.26 | Leialyn | ah |
| 08:35.28 | pb_ee1 | whiiiiiiiiine I want to restore some pages on Wowace and I cannot! |
| 08:35.39 | pb_ee1 | nerf, all of that |
| 08:35.52 | abbat_w | Arrowmaster, ah... maybe. I'll check this today |
| 08:35.59 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: ping? |
| 08:36.19 | Arrowmaster | abbat_w: you dont have to use the ? icon afaik to get the cooldown to work i think, try doing #show Freeze but selecting a different icon |
| 08:36.36 | [Ammo] | the ? icon is best though |
| 08:36.43 | [Ammo] | and even works nice with castsequences |
| 08:36.50 | abbat_w | heh |
| 08:36.57 | Leialyn | but he does not have the spell all the time Ammo ;) |
| 08:36.58 | abbat_w | '?' changes to next spell? |
| 08:37.03 | Leialyn | yes |
| 08:37.09 | abbat_w | if you have /castsequence? |
| 08:37.13 | abbat_w | oh, thats nice |
| 08:37.15 | Leialyn | I have a castsequence for my managems |
| 08:38.01 | pb_ee1 | Is there any admin online that could restore my account on wowace.com? :'( |
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| 08:39.52 | pb_ee1 | hyper asked me if I could restore some pages, I can, but my account just disappeared a few hours after xD |
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| 08:46.27 | ZealotOnAStick | later, off to nuke my RAID. |
| 08:49.28 | Biceps | I want to store some player data (player names really) on a realm specific level, how would I set up my DB for that? |
| 08:49.49 | Biceps | this LUA thingy is quite new to me, but I'm getting the grasp of some things :) |
| 08:50.29 | Matrix110 | Biceps i would check how Addons such as Prat/Aloft and others are saving them |
| 08:50.39 | Biceps | ok |
| 08:51.04 | Jaxon | I'd checkout prat, because it manages to store a shit-ton of data and access it quickly. |
| 08:51.10 | Jaxon | Unless it is just a big memory hog. |
| 08:51.37 | Matrix110 | If you arent using Prat tell me then i can post you the part where prat saves it |
| 08:51.47 | abbat_w | oh, macro with '?' and /castsequence looks nice now ;) |
| 08:52.54 | Biceps | I stole prat from WAU, no worries :) |
| 08:53.26 | krka | Biceps: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 08:53.33 | Matrix110 | Well you dont have a saved variables file then:P |
| 08:53.35 | Biceps | sorry, Lua then. |
| 08:53.42 | Biceps | true Matrix110 :) |
| 08:55.18 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43358 10Necronomicon2/Modules/SoulShard.lua: Necronomicon2: add a missing bag after someone lost 24 shards and emailed me :p |
| 08:56.05 | Matrix110 | http://ace.pastey.net/70589 this is how the SVs looks like |
| 08:56.24 | krka | isn't prat pretty big? is that really a good first example? |
| 08:56.37 | sylvanaar | prat's persistance code is well .. a mess. |
| 08:56.47 | Biceps | 78 kb is the core lua file |
| 08:57.00 | Punkie` | Matrix110: What's your name on Kazzak? :p |
| 08:57.03 | Matrix110 | sylvanaar btw why is Prat saving levels if i disabled showing levels |
| 08:57.06 | Matrix110 | Erestor |
| 08:57.16 | sylvanaar | but - you should disable saving entirely |
| 08:57.24 | Matrix110 | Nah |
| 08:57.30 | Matrix110 | i hate people not showing in class color:P |
| 08:57.32 | Punkie` | Ah I know :) |
| 08:57.50 | Matrix110 | I know a Punkie aswell but hes living in China! |
| 08:58.02 | Matrix110 | He left us:_( |
| 08:58.24 | Punkie` | :o |
| 08:58.28 | Matrix110 | Oh and i should mention its EU-Kazzak |
| 08:58.41 | Punkie` | yes, I am on your server |
| 08:58.50 | Punkie` | !char eu kazzak punkie |
| 08:58.52 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: Punkie, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (41/20/0). 10514 HP; +10 Energy; 566 Agi; 3873 Armour; 1853 AP; +26.74% melee crit; 27.71% dodge; +12 resilience; +37 shadow resist; +33 all resists (+10 arcane). (674m old) [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqvthz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33depx ]] |
| 08:58.54 | Matrix110 | But you arent the Punkie i mean:-( |
| 08:59.01 | Punkie` | i'm way better |
| 08:59.03 | Matrix110 | Ive seen you aswelll in IF etc. |
| 08:59.07 | Matrix110 | I doubt that:P |
| 08:59.33 | abbat_w | 12 resilience? |
| 08:59.34 | Biceps | Can't really find the DB code in prats lua file, but that just might be me overlooking it. |
| 08:59.39 | sylvanaar | someone should write a user info storage library which had compression and all that |
| 08:59.41 | abbat_w | Punkie, you are pve geared? |
| 09:00.04 | Matrix110 | 12 resilience prolly come from the Soulthingy Ring from Auchindoun |
| 09:00.13 | Matrix110 | !char eu Kazzak Erestor |
| 09:00.18 | ThraeBot | Matrix110: Erestor, Level 70 Human Mage (8/0/53). 9133 HP; 9071 Mana; 474 Int; 305 Spi; 1577 Armour; 67 mp5; +7.53% spell hit; +216 spell crit rating; 883 +spell dmg/heal; +233 frost dmg (1116); +233 shadow dmg (1116); 5.94% dodge; +40 resilience; +38 all resists. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2e6pgr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2oqu26 ]] |
| 09:00.21 | Jaxon | !char us Deathwing Jaxon |
| 09:00.25 | ThraeBot | Jaxon: Jaxon, Level 70 Troll Hunter (41/20/0). 9395 HP; 6598 Mana; 330 Agi; 233 Int; 5583 Armour; 27 mp5; 1629 AP; 1568 RAP; +19.36% melee crit; +24.36% ranged crit; 7.75% dodge; +72 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yslyy6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nuo65 ]] |
| 09:00.25 | sylvanaar | you can look at playernames.lua if you want thats where its gathering data |
| 09:00.52 | Jaxon | Thats weird, how do I have more melee AP than RAP. |
| 09:00.53 | Biceps | can't find that file really. |
| 09:01.08 | Matrix110 | Jaxon you prolly got Battleshout orso:P |
| 09:01.28 | Matrix110 | as Armory takes buffsinto account |
| 09:01.44 | Punkie` | abbat_w: 12 resilience is from my dagger |
| 09:01.54 | Punkie` | click the link :P |
| 09:01.59 | abbat_w | pff... |
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| 09:02.18 | Jaxon | Matrix110: no, no battleshout :P |
| 09:02.26 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 09:02.35 | abbat_w | !char eu warsong immoralist |
| 09:02.39 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/7/54). 10103 HP; 8366 Mana; 427 Int; 2008 Armour; +3.73% spell hit; +159 spell crit rating; 823 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; +422 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ytd85 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bavfk ]] |
| 09:02.41 | Matrix110 | then you either have more melee AP than RAP or Armory is bugged:P |
| 09:03.09 | sbu | hmmm |
| 09:03.19 | sbu | does tranquil air + BoS stack? |
| 09:03.25 | Punkie` | no |
| 09:03.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:03.38 | Punkie` | i was told not |
| 09:03.45 | Jaxon | Not directly. Not A+B |
| 09:03.52 | Matrix110 | BoS is already overkill impossible to overaggro with BoS |
| 09:04.19 | Matrix110 | If my -threat talent wouldnt be that insane i wouldnt spec it anymore |
| 09:04.23 | sbu | no its: 100 - (BoS 30% from 100) - (TA 20% from (100 - 30%)), right? |
| 09:04.46 | Arrowmaster | they do but it makes your threat multiplier 0.7 * 0.8 = 0.56 |
| 09:04.49 | Matrix110 | 100*0.7*0.8 afaik |
| 09:04.57 | sbu | yup okay |
| 09:05.03 | sbu | and that also stacks with silent resolve? |
| 09:05.07 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:05.18 | sbu | so 0.7 * 0.8 * 0.8 = awesome :p |
| 09:05.25 | Matrix110 | Pre threatfixing patch it was nice |
| 09:05.32 | Matrix110 | I had no threat atall |
| 09:05.41 | Biceps | sylvanaar, I can't find playernames.lua :p |
| 09:05.59 | Arrowmaster | i still want to get that trinket from fankriss |
| 09:06.07 | Matrix110 | It sucks now:-( |
| 09:06.08 | Biceps | ah was in modules |
| 09:06.22 | Matrix110 | Pre nerf i didnt generate aggro with it |
| 09:06.27 | Arrowmaster | 35% reduction at 70 |
| 09:06.43 | Arrowmaster | enough to be fun to play with still |
| 09:07.00 | Matrix110 | We used Warrior tank for Twin Emps and it was quite nice being able to DPS Twins with Trinket for 1 switch every 2mins or whatever the CD was again |
| 09:07.14 | Matrix110 | (as a mage) |
| 09:07.30 | Matrix110 | Normally you grab aggro after 2 Frostbolts/1,5 Fireballs |
| 09:08.02 | Punkie` | yes, the battleshout spam fix also :) |
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| 09:11.39 | physos | I do not know if soembody remebers my problem from yesterday (short GFX freezes when manaregeneration or health regenerationwere running) lern2count was the badboy. At least together with Bartender. Since it was a culprit to reproduce the combination of addons causing this, I doubt many people will experience this. |
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| 09:15.50 | abbat_w | !char eu warsong magga |
| 09:15.54 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Magga, Level 70 Orc Warrior (5/5/51). 15174 HP; 284 Str; 209 Agi; 17410 Armour; 758 AP; +12.47% melee crit; 21 +spell dmg/heal; +330 defense; 18.31% dodge; 28.66% block; +1 nature resist. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gttqk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2m6w2q ]] |
| 09:16.27 | [Ammo] | ping Mikk |
| 09:16.59 | cryogen | +1 nature resist? |
| 09:17.45 | Matrix110 | bugged |
| 09:17.52 | Matrix110 | Armory link shows 9 Nature Resistnace |
| 09:17.56 | Matrix110 | from Thunderfury |
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| 09:18.11 | abbat_w | !char eu warsong bessah |
| 09:18.15 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Bessah, Level 70 Undead Rogue (42/3/16). 9214 HP; +10 Energy; 392 Agi; 3086 Armour; 1422 AP; +27.78% melee crit; 19.01% dodge; +88 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yubb32 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ply8y ]] |
| 09:18.58 | sbu | mehh |
| 09:19.18 | sbu | my WAU doesnt open in windowed mode anymore, only fullscreen or minimized :o |
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| 09:21.03 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43359 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: fix the damn emotes crap |
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| 09:31.42 | Biceps | what are the diffrent values for the first argument for RegisterDefaults? |
| 09:31.46 | Biceps | I've seen profile and account |
| 09:31.54 | Biceps | is there a realm one? |
| 09:33.32 | Matrix110 | nope |
| 09:33.46 | Biceps | account it is then |
| 09:34.20 | Leialyn | how do I convert a string to numer with lua? ^^ |
| 09:36.57 | phyber | you almost had it there! |
| 09:38.09 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r43360 10Yata/ (Localization.lua Timers.lua TotemData.lua): |
| 09:38.09 | CIA-22 | Yata: |
| 09:38.09 | CIA-22 | - Debug Message delete |
| 09:38.09 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 09:43.47 | Iceroth | [Ammoo], what fix is that? |
| 09:43.50 | Biceps | hmm |
| 09:43.54 | Biceps | http://ace.pastey.net/70590 |
| 09:44.08 | Biceps | Can anyone figure out why this wont store the player correctly? |
| 09:44.40 | Biceps | Sometimes I get an error "attempt to index field 'classes' (a nil value)" |
| 09:44.42 | Biceps | but not always :d |
| 09:45.14 | nevcairiel | due to who latency? |
| 09:45.29 | Biceps | hm.. possible. |
| 09:45.42 | nevcairiel | oh and do you initialize the classes array? |
| 09:46.02 | Biceps | I have a registerdefaults where it does classes = {} |
| 09:47.36 | sylvanaar | sbu yes it does |
| 09:47.49 | sbu | sylvanaar: uhm what? :) |
| 09:47.54 | Biceps | I expanded the paste, to show you the rest of the core. |
| 09:47.57 | Sole | hmm my Omnibus doesnt seem to be working |
| 09:48.04 | Sole | I write a little script and it doesnt run |
| 09:48.06 | sylvanaar | im doing it right now |
| 09:48.11 | Sole | even a 1 liner doesnt do anything |
| 09:48.29 | [Ammo] | Iceroth: it fixes the double emotes stuff |
| 09:48.30 | nevcairiel | oh you need to registerdefaults on profile if you use profile to store it later |
| 09:48.58 | nevcairiel | or use self.db.account.classes |
| 09:48.58 | Biceps | ah. |
| 09:48.59 | Biceps | great, thanks |
| 09:49.33 | Biceps | weii |
| 09:49.37 | Biceps | added kaybeel to blacklist ^^ |
| 09:50.22 | Biceps | Now, I'd like to loop the array (just for testing purposes) but have no idea how. I tried just putting the whole array as the argument for a for do loop, but didn't work :) |
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| 09:50.27 | Iceroth | [Ammo], ah ok, never seen that.. i was worried you might have removed emotes support alltogether :) |
| 09:51.58 | [Ammo] | Iceroth: nono |
| 09:52.08 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ping |
| 09:52.15 | [Ammo] | I fixed it so the emote in the chatframe is now the same as the one shown on by WH |
| 09:52.29 | Sole | ok I cant test this in game but should it work: I create 5 frames and store them in a table (self.frames) so would self:frames:StartMoving() cause all of the frames to move? |
| 09:52.42 | Sole | or would I have to iterate through self.frames and do a StartMoving() on each one? |
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| 09:53.26 | sylvanaar | sbu try closing it while its windowed |
| 09:53.51 | sbu | well there is no windowed, its minimized then :p |
| 09:54.19 | sbu | but i tried maximized -> restore -> close |
| 09:54.22 | sbu | no effect |
| 09:54.47 | sylvanaar | move / resize it |
| 09:55.41 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: does that mean no more showing the real mob name for stuff like SSC consoles? |
| 09:55.47 | sbu | okay its in the top left corner |
| 09:56.03 | sbu | after pressing move + use keyboard cursor it reappeared |
| 09:56.12 | sbu | strange :) |
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| 10:01.01 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: indeed |
| 10:01.07 | Neebler | aaaand they're down |
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| 10:02.58 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43361 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: nolonger create raidgroup headers by default when they are hidden. Create them if needed when they are toggled on. |
| 10:03.04 | Biceps | hmm |
| 10:03.19 | Biceps | self.db.account.classes[Name] = Class doesn't insert anything into the DB... |
| 10:03.30 | Biceps | even thou Name and Class have values |
| 10:05.31 | Biceps | self.db.account.classes exists, since I can use it in loops and whatnot. |
| 10:05.44 | Biceps | calling table.getn() after adding to it always reports 0 anyawys |
| 10:06.01 | Nargiddley | getn only counts indexed values |
| 10:06.13 | Biceps | well, I do have indexed vaues |
| 10:06.15 | Biceps | values* |
| 10:06.17 | Biceps | or should have. |
| 10:07.00 | Nargiddley | it counts integer indexes without gaps starting at 1 |
| 10:07.06 | Biceps | ah |
| 10:07.20 | Nargiddley | table with keys 1, 2, 3, 5, "Name" |
| 10:07.25 | Nargiddley | will be 3 |
| 10:07.30 | Biceps | ok |
| 10:07.41 | Biceps | can I count it someway else? |
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| 10:08.12 | Nargiddley | local count = 0 for k in pairs(table) do count = count + 1 end |
| 10:08.24 | Biceps | ok |
| 10:08.47 | Biceps | thanks |
| 10:11.23 | Biceps | Great, it works now! Even saves to DB :) |
| 10:13.10 | Biceps | Can I do a SendWho() and not show the results to the user? |
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| 10:16.22 | vhaarr | You can do one and hide it from a regular user, but not an advanced user. |
| 10:16.32 | Biceps | regular user is fine |
| 10:16.44 | Biceps | I just dont want the output to bother the user. |
| 10:16.47 | vhaarr | You'll need to hook into the ChatFrame, then. |
| 10:16.51 | Biceps | ok |
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| 10:20.08 | Arrowmaster | Biceps: theres a WhoLib on the svn i think that might help you to look at |
| 10:20.17 | Biceps | Cheers, will do. |
| 10:21.54 | Sole | if I have a few frames stored in a table and I call table:StartMoving() on a OnDragStart event, will that cause all the frames to start moving with the drag? |
| 10:23.27 | Nargiddley | no |
| 10:25.08 | Sole | OnDragStart - function() for i in pairs(self.frames) do self.frames[i]:StartMoving() end end - will that work? |
| 10:25.14 | Sole | I wish the server wasnt down :( |
| 10:25.41 | Nargiddley | looks right |
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| 10:26.16 | Sole | Im just trying to get a few frames to move at once like the pitbull party frames |
| 10:26.50 | Sole | thanks narg |
| 10:26.54 | Nargiddley | i'm not sure if it'll work for that, never tried it |
| 10:26.57 | Nargiddley | but worth a shot |
| 10:27.15 | Nargiddley | if not, anchor them all to the frame that does get :StartMoving() called on it |
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| 10:28.10 | Sole | I want to the user to be able to drag on any one of the frames and start moving them |
| 10:28.18 | Sole | because theyre all going to be clustered together anyway |
| 10:28.35 | Sole | worst case scenario I'll just create an anchor frame and let the user move that |
| 10:28.42 | Biceps | does table.remove work even with non-numeric index? |
| 10:28.43 | Nargiddley | you wouldnt have to call startmoving on the frame that gets clicked |
| 10:28.47 | Nargiddley | nope |
| 10:29.02 | Biceps | how would I go about removing something with a string key then? |
| 10:29.14 | Nargiddley | table["key"] = nil |
| 10:29.19 | Biceps | right. cheers |
| 10:29.20 | Sole | t["key"] = nil |
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| 10:30.05 | Sole | Nargiddley: can you explain why I wouldnt have to call startmoving on the frame that gets clicked? |
| 10:31.28 | Nargiddley | well if you called it on a diff frame i'm pretty sure that one would move instead |
| 10:32.21 | Sole | I'll have to wait until tommorow then to test this out |
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| 10:32.52 | Neebler | Sole, how often is the tattle PlayerData updated in Gladiator? |
| 10:33.08 | Sole | Neebler: like never |
| 10:33.09 | Neebler | I'm wondering if I should just download Tattle instead |
| 10:33.17 | Sole | uhm |
| 10:33.24 | Neebler | will it hook in with gladiator? |
| 10:33.25 | Sole | PlayerData is an external to Tattle |
| 10:33.33 | Neebler | oh |
| 10:33.37 | Sole | PlayerData will be the same as Tattle |
| 10:33.39 | Neebler | I thought it was tattle embedded |
| 10:33.57 | Sole | anyway dont get too attached to gladiator |
| 10:34.05 | Sole | Im working on Cockfight now, it'l be a modular version of glad |
| 10:34.15 | Neebler | awesome :D |
| 10:34.15 | Sole | except Im currently not implementing the armory stuff just yet |
| 10:34.25 | Sole | need to find a way to update it on a regular basis |
| 10:34.29 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43362 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.en.lua: |
| 10:34.29 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:34.29 | CIA-22 | - Added some test strings I need for the LoD behaviour. Uploading them now for translators to look at. |
| 10:34.58 | abyssichate | Sole: will you add something like cast bars to players panel? |
| 10:35.24 | Sole | abyssichate: yes and important buffs/debuffs/cooldowns |
| 10:35.27 | Neebler | there's a thread in the forums about it, but i'm sure you've read it. Regarding updating tattle weekly |
| 10:36.29 | Biceps | Cellular is defined as a local, I can't hook it if it is, right? |
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| 10:37.16 | cryogen | i dont think i could ever stand to be in a nihilium raid |
| 10:37.20 | cryogen | they have too many fricking trolls |
| 10:37.42 | Dustwhisper | not to mention they lie to the pbulci all the time =D |
| 10:37.45 | Dustwhisper | "we dont buy gold" |
| 10:37.49 | Dustwhisper | "we are a friendly guild" |
| 10:38.03 | cryogen | the troll issue is a bigger problem for me |
| 10:38.07 | cryogen | i mean, trolls ffs |
| 10:39.00 | Sole | lol friendly, uberguilds arent friendly |
| 10:39.13 | Sole | I know, Ive been in one since WoW came out |
| 10:39.20 | Sole | and before that in AC |
| 10:39.23 | Matrix110 | Trolls are fucking annoying |
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| 10:39.34 | Sole | and every uberguild on my server is not friendly to the general public |
| 10:39.43 | Sole | because we're all elitist assholes ^_^ |
| 10:39.51 | Matrix110 | We got like 5000 lvl 1 chars on our Server because they want to get the fucking Legendary from Illidan linked... |
| 10:39.52 | Sole | my pixels > your pixels |
| 10:40.03 | Neebler | Forgotten Heroes is pretty friendly, I was briefly with them |
| 10:40.17 | Sole | Forgotten Heores - happyminti's guild? |
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| 10:40.40 | Neebler | dunno if she/he is in that guild now. |
| 10:40.47 | Sole | yeah he is |
| 10:40.53 | Sole | and Dahis/Sihad |
| 10:40.59 | Neebler | Yecal. Azael |
| 10:41.04 | Sole | yep them |
| 10:41.18 | Sole | I like Minti |
| 10:41.23 | Sole | and Dahis |
| 10:41.24 | Neebler | my shitty server. Just had another guild down Vashj today |
| 10:41.32 | Sole | their blogs are interesting |
| 10:41.34 | Sole | not bad |
| 10:41.35 | Biceps | Does TotalPackage ever hang around in here? |
| 10:41.44 | Sole | my guild almost downed Kael today :( |
| 10:41.49 | Sole | 22% *cry* |
| 10:42.48 | Neebler | I am 100% fed up with trying to find a good raiding guild. the ammount of BS there is to go though makes a person ill |
| 10:42.49 | RubberDck | would this be the place to ask, if i got questions / suggestions about an addon ? |
| 10:43.35 | Sole | yes RubberDck |
| 10:43.50 | Neebler | what would really be nice, is a feature on the inspect window, just like the PVP tab. But one that shows accomplishments of a player (played time, bosses killed and #'s, various other data) |
| 10:43.51 | sylvanaar | got a patch |
| 10:44.07 | Neebler | that'd make forming/joining a guild soooo easy |
| 10:44.45 | Sole | Neebler: Ive been in the same guild for years :) |
| 10:44.49 | Neebler | gear is usually not an indicator of skill |
| 10:44.56 | Sole | except I stopped raiding, not enough time |
| 10:45.12 | Neebler | Sole: I wish it were the same for me. Too many to count that have disbanded |
| 10:45.13 | Sole | Neebler: what class are you? |
| 10:45.20 | Dustwhisper | is there any addon that will show you Theorycraft Dmg on a spell based on gear you HAVENT equiped? |
| 10:45.29 | Dustwhisper | that is like the dressingroom would affect the TC |
| 10:45.35 | Neebler | Rogue currently, tho I have a warlock/priest/shaman |
| 10:45.45 | Sole | Neebler: mine disbanded but then it just reformed under a different name and then went straight back to the top of the server, then reformed under our old name again |
| 10:46.00 | Sole | we had different leaders under the different names |
| 10:46.14 | Sole | and the leader after the first disband was our best |
| 10:46.18 | Sole | and he just transfered back to us |
| 10:46.27 | Sole | because our old one had to stop playing |
| 10:46.36 | Sole | Neebler: you can fill out an app for my guild if you want |
| 10:46.46 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/70592 |
| 10:46.55 | RubberDck | alright.. well i was wondering, howcome the amazing little addon called MountMe, supported druid flight form, but still NOT epic flightform and the speed increase trinket you get from the flight from quests ? |
| 10:47.03 | Sole | Neebler: theyre assholes I warn you, but theyre not mean assholes just assholes that like to poke you |
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| 10:47.14 | abbat_w | æ) |
| 10:47.50 | Neebler | I'm done transferring for guilds |
| 10:47.54 | Matrix110 | like 90% of the people that left my guild wanted to come back later think that means something aswell^^ |
| 10:47.56 | Dustwhisper | my guild has assholes aswell |
| 10:47.57 | Neebler | done it twice before with horrible outcomes |
| 10:48.02 | Dustwhisper | they think racisms is fun to joke about 24-7 |
| 10:48.15 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 10:48.17 | Sole | my guild jokes about racism |
| 10:48.29 | abbat_w | my guild jokes about all ;) |
| 10:48.37 | abbat_w | and by first about my guild sure |
| 10:48.45 | Dustwhisper | we had 3 guildmembers |
| 10:48.47 | Dustwhisper | that got 3day bans |
| 10:48.50 | Dustwhisper | due to racism in guildchat |
| 10:48.55 | Sole | guild chat? |
| 10:48.57 | abbat_w | hahahah ;) |
| 10:48.58 | Dustwhisper | yes |
| 10:49.00 | Sole | wow sounds like an uptight guild |
| 10:49.04 | Dustwhisper | someone in the guild reported it |
| 10:49.06 | Matrix110 | US or EU guild Dustwhisper |
| 10:49.08 | Dustwhisper | EU |
| 10:49.11 | abbat_w | Who was informer? :) |
| 10:49.16 | Dustwhisper | we have no idea |
| 10:49.17 | Matrix110 | They were from Dutchland? |
| 10:49.17 | Sole | sounds like a fag :P |
| 10:49.18 | Dustwhisper | blizzard won't tell |
| 10:49.35 | abbat_w | btw my friend make guild at US server with name 'white power' |
| 10:49.43 | abbat_w | and he receive ban for 3 days for this ;) |
| 10:49.43 | Sole | well theres a line between joking about it |
| 10:49.50 | twinight2 | heh i think my guild was the third one to form on alliance elune |
| 10:49.51 | Sole | and actually meaning it |
| 10:49.53 | twinight2 | and it's still there |
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| 10:50.27 | Dustwhisper | the worst which kinda actually deservd a ban |
| 10:50.29 | abbat_w | but anyway, our guild chat it's our guild chat. we won't to inform gm's about something in chat |
| 10:50.30 | Dustwhisper | was one of our guildmembers |
| 10:50.33 | Dustwhisper | came on drunk as fuck |
| 10:50.38 | Dustwhisper | and started spamming swastikas around orgrimmar =D |
| 10:50.44 | Sole | lol |
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| 10:50.56 | abbat_w | 'drunk as fuck' ;) |
| 10:50.58 | Sole | one of our guys came on drunk on vent once |
| 10:50.58 | abbat_w | lol :) |
| 10:51.03 | Sole | this is a quote of him |
| 10:51.39 | Dustwhisper | but there's a lot of n-word and jewjokes in our guild |
| 10:51.45 | Sole | "WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER!?!?! I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU!!! WUTANG MOTHERFUCKER WUTANG!" |
| 10:51.58 | Neebler | wutang clan aint nothin to fuck with! |
| 10:52.23 | Sole | later on he tried to piss into a cup |
| 10:52.28 | Sole | he pissed on his hand and pants instead |
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| 10:53.19 | abbat_w | ahah, looks like man in Desperado from Tarantino anecdote ;) |
| 10:54.07 | Dustwhisper | oh |
| 10:54.13 | Dustwhisper | you'll here multiple times a day |
| 10:54.14 | Sole | Neebler: Im not sure what classes we're in particular need of currently but I know warlocks are >always< welcome |
| 10:54.19 | Dustwhisper | about certain members of our guild |
| 10:54.23 | Dustwhisper | supposedly living in cardboardboxes |
| 10:54.28 | Dustwhisper | cause they are unsuccessful jews |
| 10:54.34 | Sole | hahaha |
| 10:54.35 | Dustwhisper | or because they dont give good enough crackhead |
| 10:54.41 | Dustwhisper | or whatever |
| 10:54.50 | Matrix110 | They are from the Netherlands i guess? |
| 10:54.54 | Dustwhisper | and "If you don't do it right I'll slap the black of you" |
| 10:54.57 | Dustwhisper | nope |
| 10:55.01 | Matrix110 | Oo |
| 10:55.11 | Dustwhisper | England, ireland, scottland, sweden, denmark, norway, finland, russia, belgium, netherlands |
| 10:55.13 | abbat_w | What is it 'cardboardboxes'? |
| 10:55.23 | Matrix110 | The thing beggars sleep inside |
| 10:55.36 | Dustwhisper | the ones that utter the most racist jokes are the scotts |
| 10:56.02 | abbat_w | and btw ;) |
| 10:56.12 | abbat_w | i never see before unsuccessful jews |
| 10:56.12 | Dustwhisper | I prefer dumb jokes like "Your mothers so stupid she thought sucking dick would put some more intelligence in her fast" |
| 10:56.16 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 10:56.26 | abyssichate | rofls |
| 10:56.55 | Matrix110 | http://www.albaum.de/karton.gif <---cardboardbox :P |
| 10:57.28 | abbat_w | Ahah a;) |
| 10:57.34 | abbat_w | now i understand ;) |
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| 11:01.54 | Biceps | I downloaded wholib and added it to my AceLibrary call |
| 11:02.01 | Biceps | but how do I use it from here? :p |
| 11:02.19 | Sole | check that WhoLib is a mixin first |
| 11:02.22 | Sole | some libs arent mixins |
| 11:02.27 | Sole | or maybe Im wrong |
| 11:02.50 | Biceps | it was used as a mixin in spamsentry |
| 11:02.53 | Biceps | so I figured it was. |
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| 11:03.07 | Sole | then I guess it is |
| 11:03.22 | Sole | well look at the API for WhoLib and call the functions that you need |
| 11:03.36 | Sole | Im not sure if the wiki documentation is fixed yet |
| 11:03.41 | Biceps | it isnt :/ |
| 11:03.42 | Biceps | blank page |
| 11:03.43 | Sole | might have to look through the wholib.lua file |
| 11:03.49 | Sole | and see which functions it ha |
| 11:03.50 | Sole | has |
| 11:03.55 | Biceps | I am, but I can't figure out how to use em |
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| 11:04.22 | cncfanatics | Hello everyone |
| 11:04.26 | cncfanatics | damn at that site crash :o |
| 11:04.26 | Sole | hallo |
| 11:04.31 | Biceps | function lib.SendWho(msg) |
| 11:04.45 | Biceps | I tried using self:SendWho() but didnt work |
| 11:04.56 | cncfanatics | I wanted to code some at work, but my svn files are empty, is that due to the crash too ? (the files exist but are totaly empty) |
| 11:05.35 | Sole | Biceps: you could always try local whoLib = AceLibrary("WhoLib-1.0") |
| 11:05.41 | Sole | or whatever the proper library name is for it |
| 11:05.51 | Biceps | yah thats it |
| 11:05.52 | Biceps | ill try |
| 11:05.52 | Sole | and simply call whoLib:SendWho(msg) |
| 11:06.11 | abug | the svn server is separate and backed up isn't it? |
| 11:06.36 | Sole | do we know what caused the crash in the first placE? |
| 11:06.55 | cncfanatics | according from the short time the site was up & I was able to read news |
| 11:06.55 | sbu | oh |
| 11:06.58 | abug | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page |
| 11:06.58 | sbu | 2.1.3 today/tomorrow |
| 11:07.00 | cncfanatics | someone put in a wrong command |
| 11:07.04 | Sole | is there any way to find out what bracket the arena match is in? |
| 11:07.10 | cncfanatics | abug, when I go there I get a download message |
| 11:07.21 | cncfanatics | to download the file called Main_Page |
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| 11:07.37 | abug | works fine for me, screwy browser? |
| 11:07.41 | sbu | Sole: huh? |
| 11:07.58 | sbu | you mean 2v2 3v3 etc.? |
| 11:08.03 | cncfanatics | MSIE |
| 11:08.07 | cncfanatics | screwy at least |
| 11:08.14 | cncfanatics | but well, nothing else at work :p |
| 11:08.17 | cncfanatics | and all other websites work fine |
| 11:08.20 | Sole | sbu: yes |
| 11:08.44 | sbu | hm |
| 11:09.05 | Biceps | perhaps count the number of players :p |
| 11:09.52 | Sole | that can be flawed |
| 11:09.56 | Sole | this is before the match begins |
| 11:09.58 | Revery | 2.1.3 did come out today |
| 11:10.01 | Sole | so as soon as you load up |
| 11:10.03 | Biceps | ah |
| 11:10.04 | Revery | I got a half hour ago |
| 11:10.06 | cncfanatics | Revery, not in EU |
| 11:10.11 | Revery | oooo |
| 11:10.12 | Sole | I need to know how many frames to create |
| 11:10.16 | cncfanatics | btw Revery, mind pastying the patch notes ? |
| 11:10.20 | cncfanatics | comes out on wednesday in europe |
| 11:10.33 | Revery | I closed the window....could go look em up |
| 11:10.36 | sbu | Sole: and you need to know where to search for "missing" team members :p |
| 11:10.55 | Sole | sbu: yes thats the problem, I cant count party size because what if someone got DC or missed the queue |
| 11:11.06 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, ping |
| 11:11.17 | sbu | mhhm |
| 11:11.24 | abug | if they're down a member aren't they screwed anyway? |
| 11:11.35 | Sole | not really |
| 11:11.42 | Sole | Ive won a 4v5 before |
| 11:11.51 | Sole | because one of our guys went afk like an idiot |
| 11:12.01 | Revery | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115042507 |
| 11:12.03 | Revery | patch notes |
| 11:12.09 | abug | well if it's 4 players it has to be a 5v5 |
| 11:12.23 | Sole | what if its 2 players |
| 11:12.24 | sbu | meh IsActiveBattlefieldArena should return teamIndex :/ |
| 11:12.27 | Sole | can be 2v2 or 3v3 |
| 11:12.28 | sbu | or 0 |
| 11:12.45 | sbu | Sole: or 5v5 :o |
| 11:12.46 | Sole | best I can think of is to read the confirm frame |
| 11:12.49 | Sole | when the queue pops up |
| 11:12.54 | Sole | and you hit Enter Battle or Hide |
| 11:12.59 | Sole | it states what youre up for |
| 11:13.00 | sbu | hmmyes |
| 11:13.23 | Sole | but its gonna take a while to find the name of that frame and the right event |
| 11:13.32 | cncfanatics | why its gonna take a while ? |
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| 11:13.39 | cncfanatics | get the frame name when it appears on mouse over |
| 11:13.42 | cncfanatics | and hook its OnShow |
| 11:14.28 | Sole | cant really do that now |
| 11:14.32 | Sole | servers down :( |
| 11:14.45 | Biceps | This is so annoying... |
| 11:14.52 | Biceps | I really need to use WhoLib for what I'm trying to do |
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| 11:15.03 | Sole | whats happening? |
| 11:15.05 | Biceps | but since there is no API, I'm screwed atm >_> |
| 11:15.14 | Sole | btw anybody tried using Omnibus lately? |
| 11:15.16 | abug | I'll restore that page for you |
| 11:15.18 | Sole | its kinda stopped working |
| 11:15.24 | Biceps | abug: Thanks! |
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| 11:16.55 | cncfanatics | abug |
| 11:17.04 | abug | nevermind can't find a cache for it =/ |
| 11:17.12 | cncfanatics | anyone that manages the website online atm ? |
| 11:17.19 | cncfanatics | they forgot the content type header |
| 11:17.32 | abug | that would be Kaelten |
| 11:17.38 | abug | but I have no idea if he's around |
| 11:18.25 | cncfanatics | if he is, he just got a ping from you |
| 11:19.13 | Grum | hmm has anyone actually automated the restore of the available pages? |
| 11:19.37 | cncfanatics | no idea |
| 11:19.47 | cncfanatics | u can scrap google cache quite easy though |
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| 11:20.05 | cryogen | i believe there's a semi automated process involving convertin gthe cached pages to wiki |
| 11:20.06 | Grum | also the archive ofc :) |
| 11:20.28 | abug | just people doing it manually |
| 11:20.31 | abug | so far |
| 11:21.13 | Saint-N | so hers a question taht goes WAY back |
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| 11:21.30 | Saint-N | anyone remember the pccard fbsd startup command if it doesnt detect properly on boot? |
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| 11:23.31 | cncfanatics | I wish there was ez access to the docs :p i'm totaly lost without thel |
| 11:23.33 | cncfanatics | them* |
| 11:24.05 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | is it possible to apply weapon-chain on a weapon that is "Off-Hand" only? |
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| 11:26.40 | Codayus_ | NM|Xinhuan|Guru: I haven't done so personally, but I'm almost certain the answer is yes. |
| 11:26.51 | Codayus_ | Just so long as its an actual weapon. :-) |
| 11:27.03 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | does it make your MH weapon immune? |
| 11:27.04 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | heh |
| 11:27.05 | cncfanatics | though, only your offhand would be prevented from disarming then ? |
| 11:27.11 | evl | uyes |
| 11:27.11 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i heard it does |
| 11:27.14 | evl | you put chain on offhand |
| 11:27.18 | evl | and you are immunne |
| 11:27.22 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 11:27.22 | evl | it applies an aura to you |
| 11:27.24 | cncfanatics | cheatz |
| 11:27.26 | Codayus_ | The chain provides immunity to being disarmed. Period. |
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| 11:27.44 | Codayus_ | It's the same effect as gloves; it's not tied to the weapon - just granted by the weapon. |
| 11:27.57 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | hmm |
| 11:28.27 | Codayus_ | Whether its worth losing mongoose (or whatever)...is another question. :-) |
| 11:29.12 | Sole | if you see a lot of combat rogues in your battlegroup then hell yeah |
| 11:29.47 | evl | who specs riposte |
| 11:29.58 | Sole | pvp rogues? |
| 11:29.59 | evl | you are putting 6 points into something that is utterly useless if they have casters |
| 11:30.03 | evl | or a warrior |
| 11:30.07 | Sole | err |
| 11:30.11 | Revery | thats funny |
| 11:30.16 | evl | basically riposte is good against fury warriors and other rogues |
| 11:30.16 | Sole | you know its our best DPE ability, right? |
| 11:30.18 | Revery | considering only your main hand can be disarmed |
| 11:30.34 | evl | DPE? :P |
| 11:30.38 | evl | in arena? |
| 11:30.39 | Sole | damage per energy |
| 11:30.47 | evl | no, shiv is the BEST DPE ability in pve |
| 11:30.52 | Revery | riposte is actually good for farming as well |
| 11:31.03 | Sole | Ive always loved riposte |
| 11:31.04 | evl | undodgeable, unblockable, unparryable, instant poison application |
| 11:31.10 | evl | > disarm |
| 11:31.10 | Revery | if you're 41 combat (and daggers) all you lose is evis and sinister strike dmg talents |
| 11:31.20 | abbat_w | evl, shiv can miss ;) |
| 11:31.30 | Sole | and resisted |
| 11:31.38 | Sole | the poison application |
| 11:31.46 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 11:32.00 | Codayus_ | Or you could just get Steelgrip Gauntlets...although depends what your other options are. |
| 11:32.02 | Sole | by the way |
| 11:32.03 | abbat_w | shiv apply poison always? |
| 11:32.09 | Codayus_ | (And assuming your a warrior, of course.) |
| 11:32.14 | Sole | the poison can be resisted |
| 11:32.18 | Sole | also |
| 11:32.24 | abbat_w | ah, ok |
| 11:32.26 | Sole | if a hunter/rogue/warrior is beating on you as a rogue |
| 11:32.29 | abbat_w | Sole, btw, how many hit you have at arena? |
| 11:32.43 | abbat_w | i mean hit rating |
| 11:32.50 | Sole | and youre on a caster and parry an attack, thats an easy 1k+ dmg for 10 energy on that caster |
| 11:32.54 | evl | isn't 75 the optimal? |
| 11:32.57 | Sole | abbat_w: like 95 right now |
| 11:33.00 | abbat_w | in percent ;) |
| 11:33.02 | evl | Sole: Parry an attack from a caster? |
| 11:33.16 | Sole | evl: no, parry an attack from a hunter/rogue/warrior that are meleeing you |
| 11:33.18 | evl | 1k+ damage against a 2.5k backstab which gives 2cp |
| 11:33.21 | abbat_w | I respec into frost and take -4% hit on me |
| 11:33.28 | abbat_w | with ranged/melee attack |
| 11:33.36 | Sole | evl: Im talking about sinister strike builds |
| 11:33.46 | evl | aha, then granted it's good |
| 11:33.48 | abbat_w | and now i see how many misses rogues/warriors/hunters do on me |
| 11:33.51 | evl | but I'd never spend points on it |
| 11:34.00 | Codayus_ | Parry a hunter pet and gank a caster...fun. (Remind me of a Gruul wipe we had two weeks ago...*cough*.) |
| 11:34.01 | evl | imp sprint, endurance, imp kick |
| 11:34.14 | evl | don't arms warriors have this immunity anyway? |
| 11:34.16 | cncfanatics | Codayus_, ur tank got parrynuked ? :p |
| 11:34.20 | Codayus_ | Ayup. |
| 11:34.24 | cncfanatics | sucks |
| 11:34.39 | evl | 2/2 Weapon Mastery = Immune |
| 11:34.41 | cncfanatics | always fun when it happens though imo |
| 11:34.49 | Codayus_ | Bit like an old style ret bomb. Fun! |
| 11:34.50 | cncfanatics | evl, not to the damage though ? only to the disarm ? |
| 11:35.07 | cncfanatics | Codays_, i'm a palatank, retbombs ftw hehe, remember what happened to kazzak ? |
| 11:35.09 | evl | yeah but without the disarm effect it's not worth 6 talent points |
| 11:35.16 | Codayus_ | Yep. :-) |
| 11:35.28 | cncfanatics | got hotfixed, the day after if I remeber well |
| 11:35.49 | Codayus | Heh, not surprising. That was....special. |
| 11:37.09 | cncfanatics | Codays, couldn't the same have been done with a pala saving his reckoning charges till say, c'thun in aq40 ? |
| 11:37.20 | cncfanatics | oneshotted c'thun :o |
| 11:37.22 | Codayus | Actually, I think the parry mechanic is a bit silly right now. |
| 11:37.35 | cncfanatics | been like that since as far as I can remember tbh |
| 11:37.38 | Codayus | I assume so? Would be...hard to pull off... |
| 11:37.56 | Codayus | Mmm, true...okay, it's always been a bit silly. :-) |
| 11:38.06 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 11:38.08 | cncfanatics | yay |
| 11:38.12 | cncfanatics | I can access the site again |
| 11:38.15 | cryogen | cncfanatics: the thing was that kazzak has super low hp |
| 11:38.18 | cncfanatics | thanks to whever fixed the content-type header |
| 11:38.24 | cncfanatics | cryogen, he did have 2.5k reckoning charges :p |
| 11:38.39 | cryogen | :) |
| 11:38.45 | cncfanatics | still silly dmg |
| 11:38.50 | cncfanatics | with an ashkani |
| 11:38.52 | cryogen | imagine how long it would take to do any boss with high hp then :p |
| 11:38.55 | cncfanatics | about 1k a hit right ? |
| 11:39.04 | cncfanatics | ashkandi* |
| 11:39.19 | cncfanatics | 2.5k * 1k hurts :p |
| 11:39.31 | abug | plus seal |
| 11:39.46 | Codayus | Let's see, Gruul has about 2.1m hp? So.... You'd need a few charges. :-) |
| 11:39.51 | cryogen | i wonder if they didnt think about that |
| 11:39.58 | cryogen | or if they knew about it but though tnoone would actually go and do it |
| 11:40.06 | cncfanatics | abug, SoR yes, SoC nope |
| 11:40.10 | Codayus | cryogen: I suspect the former. |
| 11:40.16 | cryogen | me too |
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| 11:40.24 | cncfanatics | well |
| 11:40.29 | cncfanatics | he spend 7 hours building charges |
| 11:40.32 | cncfanatics | spent* |
| 11:40.51 | abug | and used up like 3 weapons? |
| 11:40.53 | Codayus | Frankly, killing Kazzak for real would probably have been easier... |
| 11:40.58 | cncfanatics | yea abug |
| 11:41.06 | cncfanatics | 1k charges per wep |
| 11:41.10 | cncfanatics | then it was broke |
| 11:41.25 | cncfanatics | thats why kazak's HP went down in 3 times also |
| 11:41.38 | cncfanatics | (in the video if u saw it :p) |
| 11:41.48 | cryogen | quite impressive that kazzak stayed up long enough for him to spend 7 hours doing it tbh |
| 11:42.00 | cncfanatics | maybe he did it before respawn ? |
| 11:42.10 | cncfanatics | either that or he was on a low pop server |
| 11:42.41 | cryogen | legendary anyway |
| 11:42.57 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 11:43.06 | cncfanatics | anyone here play on khadgar btw ? |
| 11:43.08 | cryogen | tho i think i prefer reckoning as it is :) |
| 11:43.10 | cncfanatics | (EU) |
| 11:43.16 | cncfanatics | cryogen, for tanking I do |
| 11:43.22 | cncfanatics | as you don't get crit while tanking in the first place |
| 11:43.25 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | hope he didn't use SCT or he would have a heap of spam |
| 11:43.35 | cryogen | haha |
| 11:43.35 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | on a few thousand hits |
| 11:43.42 | cncfanatics | NM|Xinhuan|Guru 2.5k hits in 5 sec hmmmm |
| 11:43.45 | cncfanatics | thats a crash probably |
| 11:44.00 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | so whats the effect on generating some 2.5k events and text messages in a few secs |
| 11:44.05 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | and scrolling them up on screen |
| 11:44.16 | cncfanatics | try it out ? |
| 11:44.17 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | assuming SCTD is used |
| 11:44.24 | cncfanatics | either way |
| 11:44.33 | cncfanatics | WoW's dmg text will have shown em up anyway ? |
| 11:44.38 | cncfanatics | above kazzak's head |
| 11:44.51 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | probably, but i wouldn't know how that would affect performance |
| 11:45.06 | cncfanatics | its C++ code, so less then lua, but still |
| 11:45.23 | cryogen | go ask the guy :p |
| 11:45.40 | cryogen | or watch the movie |
| 11:45.45 | cncfanatics | kazzzak's huge |
| 11:45.49 | cncfanatics | prolly not on screen |
| 11:46.17 | ScoTTie | for random enchanted items |
| 11:46.32 | ScoTTie | does the random ench id actually relate to anything ? |
| 11:47.05 | abug | it was a druid recording it =/ |
| 11:47.20 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | yes - search wowwiki for SuffixID |
| 11:47.33 | cryogen | ah |
| 11:47.58 | ScoTTie | sweet thanks :) |
| 11:48.30 | cncfanatics | abug, yes it was :p |
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| 11:54.03 | abbat_w | Any macro gosu here? ;) |
| 11:54.11 | abbat_w | ./focus [target=focus,nodead,harm]; |
| 11:54.24 | abbat_w | ./cast [modifier:alt, target=focus,nodead,harm] [target=target,nodead,harm] Polymorph(Rank 1) |
| 11:54.30 | abbat_w | it is correct macro? |
| 11:54.54 | cncfanatics | it would set your focus and polymorph |
| 11:54.54 | cncfanatics | but |
| 11:55.03 | abbat_w | logic is 1) setup focus if i don't have one, 2) polymorph focus if i press alt or poly target |
| 11:55.06 | cncfanatics | why is target set twice in the scond line ? |
| 11:55.12 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.29 | abbat_w | first condition for modifier:alt and focus poly |
| 11:55.41 | abbat_w | second - for poly current target |
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| 11:55.59 | abbat_w | ./focus [modifier:alt, target=focus,nodead,harm]; |
| 11:56.05 | abbat_w | this is correct first line |
| 11:56.10 | cncfanatics | the first line is ok |
| 11:56.15 | cncfanatics | but the second line |
| 11:56.23 | abbat_w | what wrong with second? |
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| 11:56.32 | cncfanatics | modifier alt, target= bla] [target=bla] |
| 11:56.32 | abbat_w | [modifier:alt, target=focus,nodead,harm] - this for focus |
| 11:56.45 | cncfanatics | u declare the target twice on ur second line |
| 11:56.52 | abbat_w | [target=target,nodead,harm] - this condition evaluates if first is false |
| 11:57.08 | Shamino | i had to recreate my account on wowace, but i can't log into /trac now. i thought those 2 accounts were tied together, anyone have any ideas ? |
| 11:57.15 | abbat_w | cncfanatics, yes. But it's different conditions |
| 11:57.17 | cncfanatics | hmmm ok |
| 11:57.23 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, one more thing also |
| 11:57.32 | abbat_w | I don't sure it is true or not |
| 11:57.35 | cncfanatics | due to a blizzard bug macros currently reduce ur fps by a great lot |
| 11:57.53 | Shamino | macro bug is fixed today |
| 11:57.54 | cncfanatics | #show Polymorph as first line in ur macro will fix that |
| 11:58.01 | cncfanatics | Shamino, it is ? :o great = |
| 11:58.06 | abbat_w | Hmm.. as i mage i can't live w/o this macro ;) |
| 11:58.12 | Shamino | aye, patch 13 went live today |
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| 11:58.27 | abbat_w | 2.1.13? |
| 11:58.33 | Shamino | yes sir |
| 11:58.38 | abbat_w | ah, nice |
| 11:59.27 | [Ammo] | 2.1.3 you mean |
| 11:59.47 | abbat_w | btw |
| 12:00.03 | abbat_w | castsequece allow conditions? |
| 12:00.26 | abbat_w | ./castsequence [modifier:alt, target=focus,nodead,harm] [target=target,nodead,harm] Polymorph(Rank 1), Detect Magic |
| 12:00.47 | abbat_w | like this |
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| 12:01.11 | abbat_w | Ammo told me about '?' as macro icon in castsequence |
| 12:01.22 | abbat_w | And now i can track where is condition now |
| 12:01.30 | abbat_w | At poly or at detect magic |
| 12:01.39 | kenlyric | yeah, ? is pretty amazing. |
| 12:01.39 | Grum | weren't those modifiers and target checks causing fps drops if used? :) |
| 12:01.48 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:02.42 | abbat_w | kenlyric, i don't check but if you setup '?' as macro icon and make /castsequence, '?' icon be changed to evaluated spell |
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| 12:03.03 | Grum | hmm it should do indeed |
| 12:03.04 | kenlyric | I haven't either, but it's nice for conditional spells at least. |
| 12:03.11 | kenlyric | it works for modifier keys |
| 12:03.30 | abbat_w | so, i think '?' should change to poly icon and after poly '?' be changed to detect magic icon |
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| 12:04.37 | abbat_w | --- |
| 12:04.38 | abbat_w | If you used the question mark icon, WoW will automatically update the icon to the current element of the sequence. If you have other /casts or /uses before the /castsequence, though, they will interfere and there is no way currently to tell WoW to pay attention to the sequence instead. |
| 12:04.39 | abbat_w | --- |
| 12:05.36 | Saint-N | ya know whats awesome? |
| 12:05.45 | Sole | me |
| 12:05.55 | Wobin_ | Timtams |
| 12:05.56 | Saint-N | thinking you've got a 20gig laptop drive kicking around and putting it in yer lappy to find out its actually a 60g |
| 12:06.04 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: ping |
| 12:06.14 | Grum | add a 0 then cheer again ^^ |
| 12:06.25 | Saint-N | laugh well its tripled so far! |
| 12:06.32 | kenlyric | if it's not full of porn, that's not very awesome. |
| 12:06.41 | Sole | Wobin_: Timtams are good but toffee pops are better |
| 12:06.52 | Saint-N | oh and even better that 4g you've had and fergot where it came from is a long lost fbsd install that had all yer old coding work on and you had thought it was gone forever |
| 12:07.19 | Saint-N | (and also has a shitload of porn on it) |
| 12:07.22 | Grum | how can you loose a disk with an os install? ehe :D |
| 12:07.26 | Sole | Thats more like it! |
| 12:07.26 | Grum | oooh \o/ |
| 12:07.36 | Saint-N | i got a new laptop and used to use the old lappy as my testor machine |
| 12:07.52 | Saint-N | swapped out the drives about 3 years ago and found this random drive last night |
| 12:08.05 | Saint-N | booted it up and was like SCORE! |
| 12:08.26 | Saint-N | best of all because i use like 4 passwds and have since the mid 90's it was easy to get back into it ;P |
| 12:08.33 | Sole | internal or external modules? |
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| 12:09.19 | Saint-N | internal |
| 12:09.27 | Srosh | ~seen jncl |
| 12:09.33 | purl | Srosh: i haven't seen 'jncl' |
| 12:09.42 | Sole | purl: you suck |
| 12:09.43 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 12:09.49 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 12:09.56 | Srosh | owned, sole xD |
| 12:10.01 | Sole | :D |
| 12:10.11 | Saint-N | hahah |
| 12:10.16 | Saint-N | you got served by a bot! |
| 12:10.17 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r43363 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.xml: |
| 12:10.17 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:10.17 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a bug with the 'Hide AL Panel' button in Atlas |
| 12:10.27 | Wobin_ | well yes that's true |
| 12:10.30 | Saint-N | you much really be lowon the totem of evolution |
| 12:10.33 | Wobin_ | unexpected porn is always awesome |
| 12:10.39 | Neebler | mmm odwalla superfood drink |
| 12:10.50 | Sole | it is awesome wob |
| 12:10.52 | Saint-N | Wobin_: depends entirely on content |
| 12:10.57 | Sole | well yeah |
| 12:10.59 | Wobin_ | Well if it was your porn |
| 12:11.04 | Wobin_ | originally |
| 12:11.08 | Sole | if its midget porn then thats not too great |
| 12:11.14 | Saint-N | finding a shoebox of "parents polaroids" isnt good porn |
| 12:11.23 | Wobin_ | Nah, just a little weird =) |
| 12:11.24 | Saint-N | and far from awesome |
| 12:11.32 | Wobin_ | (midget porn that is) |
| 12:11.48 | Wobin_ | ~rimshot |
| 12:11.49 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 12:11.49 | Saint-N | unless they no longer are together and famous and you need som quick cash |
| 12:12.15 | Saint-N | nice! |
| 12:12.31 | Saint-N | wobin |
| 12:12.44 | Saint-N | did you add like 90% of these tilde things to purl? |
| 12:12.54 | Saint-N | or do you just have WAY too much free time to find them all |
| 12:12.57 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 12:13.00 | Sole | Wobin_: are we ever going to finish/start Splut? |
| 12:13.04 | Wobin_ | I've hung out in this channel far too long =) |
| 12:13.09 | Saint-N | hah |
| 12:13.45 | Neebler | your talk of toffee candy bars sparked my interest and resulted in some very mouthwatering discoverys on a Google image search. |
| 12:13.52 | Neebler | BEHOLD the bane of your existence http://www.davidlebovitz.com/archives/img/1205/chocolatebuttercrunchparis!.jpg |
| 12:13.56 | Saint-N | toffeefay(sp) |
| 12:14.08 | Neebler | food porn!!! hooray |
| 12:14.24 | Saint-N | carmel half-sphere, fudges filler and an almond in the center |
| 12:14.25 | Sole | ok thats looks good EXCEPT theres too many fucking nuts on there |
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| 12:14.44 | kenlyric | there are nuts at all. |
| 12:14.44 | Sole | I dont mind nuts, but theres a limit |
| 12:14.56 | kenlyric | nuts have their place, but not on toffee |
| 12:15.06 | Wobin_ | My mother said to me: "Harlan, if you don't stop naming nuts..." |
| 12:15.09 | Neebler | I enjoy toffee, but I've never really been that into it. Probably because I'm an american |
| 12:15.23 | Sole | anywaysleeptime4meokbai |
| 12:15.23 | kenlyric | lies. |
| 12:15.43 | Wobin_ | Sole: in regards to splut.. |
| 12:15.44 | Wobin_ | oh =( |
| 12:15.46 | Wobin_ | too slow |
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| 12:16.02 | kenlyric | americans love heath bars! |
| 12:16.16 | Saint-N | **makes a mental note to bring a proper dvd movie to work when selling his laptop |
| 12:16.29 | Neebler | americans love what is sold to them through propaganda |
| 12:16.45 | Saint-N | while showing them the ability to play dvds without booting the OS might be better suited for a porn dvd.......... |
| 12:16.54 | Neebler | which *turns on tv*.. currently is M&M's and butterfinger |
| 12:16.56 | Saint-N | heath bars? |
| 12:16.58 | kenlyric | I've never seen a commercial for heath bars. |
| 12:17.12 | Saint-N | forget an L in there? |
| 12:17.38 | Wobin_ | heath barls! |
| 12:17.44 | kenlyric | there are 27 different types of candy bars. I choose heath (or that other one, which name escapes me) because I vastly prefer toffee. |
| 12:17.57 | Neebler | http://snacks.cyberpunks.org/heath.jpeg |
| 12:18.07 | Wysteria | symphony |
| 12:18.09 | sbu | meeh "Totem of the Maelstrom" |
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| 12:18.13 | Wobin_ | We're not after the 'healthy' alternative here, Saint-N |
| 12:18.15 | sbu | dropped 6 times in 4 ssc runs :/ |
| 12:18.53 | Neebler | omg... OMGOMGOMG http://www.bfeedme.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/heath-bar-ice-cream-recipe-10-3-2006.jpg |
| 12:19.16 | Saint-N | haha |
| 12:19.26 | Saint-N | zenwalk linux has the bestest warning |
| 12:19.46 | Saint-N | in the filemanager "Warning, you are using the root account, you may harm your system." |
| 12:20.00 | kenlyric | that's not really the best warning. |
| 12:20.11 | kenlyric | it should be more derisive. |
| 12:21.00 | Saint-N | "You're logged in as root. We don't care who you are make a friggin USER account that's not root you nimrod" ? |
| 12:21.51 | Saint-N | sbu: i missed you saying what item dropped and saw neeblers heath link and thought "those drop in ssc? awesome!" |
| 12:22.42 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skor this is better than heath, imo |
| 12:22.48 | Saint-N | SKOR! |
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| 12:23.30 | Revery | does anyone here use the luaeclipse plugin? |
| 12:23.35 | Wobin_ | Honestly? |
| 12:23.46 | Wobin_ | I'd say NonAmericanChocolate > AmericanChocolate |
| 12:23.53 | Saint-N | 2 words |
| 12:23.57 | Saint-N | Turkish Delight |
| 12:24.02 | eXemplar | nonamerican* > american* |
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| 12:24.06 | Wobin_ | Did they manage to remove the requirement of actual chocolate in american chocolate? |
| 12:24.13 | abbat_w | russial chocolate > all |
| 12:24.14 | Wobin_ | or was that overturned |
| 12:24.18 | abbat_w | russian chocolate > all |
| 12:24.22 | Wobin_ | English/Australian chocolate > all |
| 12:24.29 | abbat_w | noway |
| 12:24.32 | Wobin_ | totally |
| 12:24.38 | abbat_w | wrong, trust me ;) |
| 12:24.41 | Saint-N | i actually like white milk chocolate over belgian chocolate |
| 12:24.43 | Wobin_ | nuhuh =) |
| 12:24.58 | Wobin_ | Saint-N: That's cause you're eating it for the sugar, not the cocoa =) |
| 12:25.01 | kenlyric | when I was a kid, I thought turkish delight was some kind of turkey dish. |
| 12:25.06 | Saint-N | **fondly remembers mint areo bars |
| 12:25.14 | Saint-N | Wobin_: correcto ;P |
| 12:25.25 | Saint-N | i get enough caffiend thanks |
| 12:25.30 | sbu_ | beer > all :/ |
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| 12:25.33 | Wobin_ | it's not the caffiene! |
| 12:25.36 | Wobin_ | it's the cocoa! |
| 12:25.59 | Wobin_ | sbu_: actually, I'd like good chocolate better than a beer |
| 12:25.59 | Saint-N | i need to maintain at least 6 double espresso's worth each day to avoid headaches and jitters |
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| 12:26.07 | Wobin_ | only cause the chocolate is bound to be more expensive =) |
| 12:26.18 | Wobin_ | Saint-N: That's not a good sign =P |
| 12:26.27 | Wobin_ | My friend was like that, on Jolt Cola |
| 12:26.29 | Saint-N | its an awesome sign, and what kind of aussie are you?! |
| 12:26.34 | Saint-N | mmmmmmmm jolt |
| 12:26.35 | Wobin_ | it stripped the sheaths off his nerve endings |
| 12:26.42 | Neebler | uh oh. I can just tell now that I'm going to spend another 2+ hours browsing food porn *again* |
| 12:26.51 | Zicon | wobin_: Chocolate before beer? Are you a woman? o_O |
| 12:26.56 | Wobin_ | So he's constantly twitching |
| 12:26.57 | Saint-N | in .ca thers a law that says if its got caffiend it has to be a dark liquid |
| 12:27.00 | Wobin_ | it's not a pretty sight |
| 12:27.06 | kenlyric | beer tastes like shit. |
| 12:27.07 | Saint-N | so mountain dew in .ca doesnt have caffiene |
| 12:27.17 | Saint-N | and neither do the jolt colas that arent brown |
| 12:27.22 | kenlyric | so yes, always chocolate before beer, but real liquor before chocolate. |
| 12:27.30 | Wobin_ | Zicon: Nah, just if given the choice between a beer and expensive good chocolate, I'd take the chocolate =) |
| 12:27.39 | Saint-N | cake or death? |
| 12:27.42 | Saint-N | cake please |
| 12:27.43 | Wobin_ | cake! |
| 12:27.47 | Zicon | And not a woman. Huh. |
| 12:27.49 | Saint-N | cake or death |
| 12:27.53 | kenlyric | Saint-N: so what you're saying is that in canada people drink mt dew without caffeine? |
| 12:27.54 | Saint-N | death...nononon i meant cake! |
| 12:27.55 | Wobin_ | Well I'm sorry, we're all out of cake |
| 12:27.56 | Zicon | I think a part of my world just fell apart. |
| 12:27.59 | Saint-N | kenlyric: yuppers |
| 12:28.00 | kenlyric | isn't that like drinking no alcohol beer? |
| 12:28.09 | cncfanatics | cookies for everyone = |
| 12:28.11 | kenlyric | aka, drinking something that tastes like shit for no reason? |
| 12:28.12 | Saint-N | yuppers |
| 12:28.13 | Wobin_ | kenlyric: Mtdew doesn't have caffiene here either |
| 12:28.20 | Kneebracehead | dr. pepper? |
| 12:28.20 | Wobin_ | it's not overly popular |
| 12:28.21 | Saint-N | thats why i lurv tha jolt! |
| 12:28.26 | Saint-N | and dr.pepper is all i drink here |
| 12:28.29 | Wobin_ | ew DrPepper |
| 12:28.30 | Saint-N | since i moved |
| 12:28.34 | Wobin_ | it tastes like panadol |
| 12:28.35 | Kneebracehead | woot prune drink! |
| 12:28.40 | Saint-N | the cherry vanilla dr.pepper is awesome |
| 12:29.02 | Wobin_ | the fact they have to add not one, but two artificial flavours shows just how good the original is =P |
| 12:29.13 | Zicon | Cherry. Vanilla. Dr Pepper. |
| 12:29.15 | Zicon | I fucking want. |
| 12:29.45 | Saint-N | i like the original |
| 12:29.46 | cncfanatics | always coca cola :) |
| 12:29.48 | Saint-N | its yummy |
| 12:29.51 | kenlyric | if ever there was a diety soda that doesn't taste like on, that's it. |
| 12:29.54 | Saint-N | ya know what i find wierd ehre though |
| 12:29.56 | Saint-N | here |
| 12:30.01 | Saint-N | in .ca rootbear has caffiend |
| 12:30.03 | kenlyric | *one |
| 12:30.05 | Saint-N | here it doesnt |
| 12:30.48 | kenlyric | barq's does, but it's a rare exception. |
| 12:31.00 | cncfanatics | !!!! |
| 12:31.01 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 12:31.07 | cncfanatics | voice chat inside wow is coming for patch 2.2 |
| 12:31.13 | pb_ee1 | yep |
| 12:31.13 | sbu | hmm yes? |
| 12:31.21 | Saint-N | barq's tastes like grass |
| 12:31.21 | cncfanatics | http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/108415058.htm |
| 12:31.23 | cncfanatics | wooo |
| 12:31.23 | kenlyric | glad I fucking quit such a dumbass game. |
| 12:31.49 | kenlyric | I can'f fucking stand listening to guildmates, let alone random assholes |
| 12:31.52 | Saint-N | cncfanatics: you mean i can sit in org with my headset and spam people instead of typing? |
| 12:32.16 | Neebler | raid/party groups only at first, then they say they may expand to guild/other |
| 12:32.44 | Codayus | kenlyric: Mmm, perhaps you should have found a better guild. oO |
| 12:33.01 | Revery | im sure they'll lack the preference to disable said catastrophe by default |
| 12:33.05 | cncfanatics | Saint-N, dunno, might be guild/raid only |
| 12:33.05 | Saint-N | AND IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII WILLL ALWAYS LOVE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 12:33.08 | kenlyric | no, all of wow is full of teenagers and drunk college kids. |
| 12:33.15 | Saint-N | just sit in org and play that day in day out |
| 12:33.25 | Codayus | kenlyric: Ah, yes, you DEFINETLY should have found a better guild. |
| 12:33.26 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, no it aint :p |
| 12:33.29 | kenlyric | Revery: yes, but you'll be expected to use it in every pug that exists. |
| 12:33.35 | Tornhoof | you're plalying on a pvp server saint-n? |
| 12:33.41 | cncfanatics | who goes with pugs these days ? |
| 12:33.42 | Saint-N | i wish ;P |
| 12:33.46 | Revery | i dunno, i've never had a pug require me to be in vent |
| 12:33.56 | Revery | plenty have requested |
| 12:34.03 | pb_ee1 | Revery: that would be not cool ;p |
| 12:34.11 | Wobin_ | just say I don't have a headset |
| 12:34.13 | Saint-N | i just tell em i dont have a mic and dont really wanna hear thier voices ;P |
| 12:34.14 | Wobin_ | Soz |
| 12:34.16 | pb_ee1 | or would not? * ;- |
| 12:34.18 | Revery | o well |
| 12:34.21 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r43364 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj: Get rid of the Deformat-2.0 dependency. |
| 12:34.22 | kenlyric | Codayus: maybe a better server, but every group i've ever been in is 75% people 16-25 who think guitar hero is the best game ever made. |
| 12:34.27 | Revery | maybe it will be a healthy alternative to using vent on linux |
| 12:34.33 | Wobin_ | oh.. GH2 is fun |
| 12:34.41 | Revery | which...lemme tell you COULD be easy if they let anyone in at the code |
| 12:34.43 | Wobin_ | Revery: /signed |
| 12:34.47 | Saint-N | i was never on vent in my last guild under the excuse of "your nasally and whiny voices give me a headache and quite frankly i dont think i need to be on vent" |
| 12:34.52 | Revery | but instead is a pain |
| 12:34.57 | Wobin_ | vent on linux just fails to work for me |
| 12:35.12 | Saint-N | even wine installed? |
| 12:35.13 | Revery | o i use it all the time |
| 12:35.16 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 12:35.20 | Saint-N | wierd |
| 12:35.22 | Revery | just dont try talking during load screens |
| 12:35.26 | Saint-N | cant call themixer right? |
| 12:35.37 | Wobin_ | I'm not sure if the codecs were installed right or something |
| 12:35.44 | Revery | weird thing is i need to set my output to alsa and use oss for input |
| 12:35.47 | Wobin_ | anyone got a vent server I can test on? |
| 12:35.52 | Saint-N | kenlyric: guitar hero 2 is the best video game ever made ;P |
| 12:35.53 | cncfanatics | Wobin_ when I had linux I didnt have any problems with wine |
| 12:36.03 | Codayus | kenlyric: I think my guilds average age is about 30... |
| 12:36.04 | cncfanatics | Saint-N, kill Saint-N is the best game ever made |
| 12:36.13 | kenlyric | Codayus: wtb |
| 12:36.18 | Codayus | I think we've got...1 player under 20. |
| 12:36.23 | Saint-N | i don't think ive played that... is it a flash game? |
| 12:36.38 | Saint-N | or java |
| 12:36.39 | kenlyric | but, it's ok, since the game itself is boring anyway. |
| 12:36.55 | Codayus | And he graduated uni a while back, and is probably one of the most mature players in the guild. Odd. |
| 12:37.23 | Revery | but he's probably in a guild like that by choice |
| 12:37.28 | Revery | making him smart and young |
| 12:37.28 | Saint-N | omg, the vent chat....it's coming from INSIDE OF THE SERVER! |
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| 12:37.47 | Ra1d3n | deus ex machina ? |
| 12:38.34 | CIA-22 | 03dafire * r43365 10Fubar_LatFPSFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Fubar_LatFPSFu: This is a very very stripped down version of FuBar_PerformanceFu. It's just showing the current FPS and latency in the FuBar. It can't track any memory (or cpu) stats and has no options ;9 |
| 12:38.50 | vhaarr | dafire: FuBar_MiniPerfsFu? |
| 12:39.04 | Codayus | On an entirely unrelated note, Quantrix is really cool. |
| 12:39.14 | Codayus | Mmm, multidimensional spreadsheets. |
| 12:39.34 | Wobin_ | anyone got a vent server I can try to get working? |
| 12:39.54 | Saint-N | i cant remember our port |
| 12:40.01 | Saint-N | its something gay |
| 12:40.07 | Codayus | Wobin_: Just need a random server to try connecting to? |
| 12:40.12 | dafire | vhaarr: not updated... still uses old garbage collection stuff and does memory tracking what I don't need |
| 12:40.12 | Wobin_ | 1, 2, 3, 4... 5 |
| 12:40.25 | Wobin_ | Codayus: yeah |
| 12:40.34 | Codayus | http://www.projmayhem.com/ |
| 12:40.36 | Codayus | Left hand side |
| 12:40.47 | Grum | lala ripping all wowace wiki pages from web.archive.org =) |
| 12:40.49 | Wobin_ | thank you =) |
| 12:40.51 | dafire | vhaarr: it has only memory tracking but no fps and no latency display when i remember correctly |
| 12:41.22 | Codayus | wait...you can't see that if not logged in can you... |
| 12:41.28 | Codayus | *scratches head* |
| 12:41.31 | Codayus | I'm sure I set it... |
| 12:41.52 | Wobin_ | No, I can't_ |
| 12:41.53 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:42.02 | Codayus | Fixed |
| 12:42.11 | Revery | wobin i do |
| 12:42.16 | Codayus | Reload. :-) |
| 12:42.39 | Revery | didn't see my pm? |
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| 12:44.56 | Wobin_ | =( |
| 12:45.25 | Wobin_ | Revery: Is your nick registered with freenode? |
| 12:45.40 | Wobin_ | I can't seem to get my usb headset working with vent |
| 12:45.51 | Grum | the registering end up like youtube - you can never get your 'normal' nick O.o |
| 12:45.54 | Revery | o no its not |
| 12:46.32 | Codayus | Wobin_: I could never get vent working in linux. Had a weird issue where I could speak...once. |
| 12:47.00 | Codayus | After that my microphone would *appear* to get stuck on, but nothing would be transmitted or received. |
| 12:47.17 | Wobin_ | bizzare |
| 12:47.25 | Wobin_ | it works out of the box with Teamspeak |
| 12:47.29 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 12:47.40 | Codayus | Teamspeak was trivial to get working. :-/ |
| 12:47.53 | Revery | teamspeak never worked for me on linux |
| 12:48.12 | Revery | which is ridiculous considering i can get vent (windows software) working but not opensource |
| 12:48.18 | Codayus | I don't hold out any real hope for the Bliz VoIP implementation, but I have to say, I really would like someone to write a solid cross platform vent replacement. |
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| 12:48.45 | Revery | all that needs to be done is some rewriting in vent to make a *nix client |
| 12:48.46 | Wobin_ | it's true |
| 12:48.51 | Revery | but the guy who owns it is a douche |
| 12:48.56 | Revery | he wrote the program like 4 years ago |
| 12:49.11 | Revery | and just sits on it selling it only to resellers and big companies |
| 12:49.16 | Codayus | Yep |
| 12:50.07 | Revery | probably one of my least fav programmers ever |
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| 12:50.24 | Revery | he put a "pending relase" linux client post about 2 years ago |
| 12:50.26 | Codayus | I've *got* a dedicated server in a data center with plenty of spare bandwidth, CPU, etc. There's no reason I shouldn't be hosting my guilds vent server...but no, we have to pay a reseller. :-/ |
| 12:51.01 | Codayus | Teamspeak...is theoretically currently rewriting from scratch. I estimate the release date to be about a month after Duke Nukem Forever comes out. :-/ |
| 12:51.10 | Revery | lol |
| 12:51.16 | Neebler | I've got balls of steel! |
| 12:51.22 | Revery | the "forever" means it cant ever get released |
| 12:51.35 | Tornhoof | there was some opensource linux teamspeak replacement a long time ago |
| 12:51.43 | Tornhoof | which was fine, but wasn't ever completed |
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| 12:51.57 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm3lPRnEISA |
| 12:52.02 | Neebler | hyuk hyuk |
| 12:52.03 | Codayus | It doesn't *seem* like it should be that hard. |
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| 12:52.14 | Codayus | The codecs are more or less off the shelf... |
| 12:52.30 | dafire | there are teamspeak / vent replacements out there.. but they don't are really popular |
| 12:52.42 | Revery | rogerwilco |
| 12:52.50 | Revery | back in the rainbox 6 days |
| 12:52.53 | dafire | even open source projects |
| 12:53.13 | Tornhoof | no not rogerwilco |
| 12:53.18 | Codayus | dafire: I spent some time looking, and everything I found was either broken, "coming soon", long abandoned, or significantly less functional than vent. :-( |
| 12:53.25 | Revery | as much as i hate to say it....vent's a fairly well written, lightweight app |
| 12:53.29 | Codayus | Or in most cases, all of the above. |
| 12:53.39 | Tornhoof | mumble or something |
| 12:53.39 | Revery | it just needs to be cross platform |
| 12:53.43 | binder | how do you guys handle the mount of kael'thas if it drops? dkp or /random? |
| 12:53.46 | Matrix110 | Vent is bullshit... |
| 12:53.59 | Matrix110 | Binder its just a fancy fashion item /random |
| 12:54.10 | Tornhoof | http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:54.12 | dafire | http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ is one |
| 12:54.24 | abyssichate | battlecom! |
| 12:54.25 | dafire | lol |
| 12:54.29 | binder | I never thought TS sounded as good as vent |
| 12:54.38 | Codayus | binder: Our guild rules would have us use DKP. I'm not sure if that's a good idea.... |
| 12:54.47 | Ra1d3n | binder: it never did |
| 12:54.50 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 12:54.56 | binder | we're scraping dkp for a merit system soon anyhow |
| 12:55.00 | Matrix110 | TS can sound as good as Vent if you use a proper codec |
| 12:55.02 | Saint-N | so why arent you hosting the vent server? |
| 12:55.02 | binder | I'd blow my dkp on it if it dropped |
| 12:55.13 | binder | I'm a tank anyhow so my loot is pretty much free :P |
| 12:55.28 | Ra1d3n | binder: vent was always higher quality lower latency |
| 12:55.32 | Codayus | Matrix110: I've done a lot of fiddling and testing, and that really don't seem to be the case, and I'm not sure why... |
| 12:56.13 | Matrix110 | Iam not that familiar with setting up a good TS Server but we had one hosted which had the same quality as a good Vent Server |
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| 12:56.31 | binder | I've hosted my own for like 5 people on a lan |
| 12:56.32 | Revery | its more or less in the codecs |
| 12:56.35 | Ra1d3n | we always use the highest quality codec |
| 12:56.36 | binder | and it still didn't sound as good |
| 12:56.40 | Ra1d3n | it never soinds like vent |
| 12:56.41 | Revery | ive hosted both TS and vent |
| 12:56.45 | Codayus | *shrug* I fiddled around with both a *lot*. My feeling is you can get TS to sound good, but you can get Vent to sound better. |
| 12:56.50 | Revery | and per bandwidth, vent is always cleaner |
| 12:56.58 | Codayus | Ra1d3n: Exactly. |
| 12:56.59 | Matrix110 | But TS functionality is so > Vent |
| 12:57.00 | Tornhoof | ts has some weird equalizer problems |
| 12:57.05 | binder | does vent tag QoS? |
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| 12:57.18 | Tornhoof | neither does afaik binder |
| 12:57.29 | binder | I wish wow and vent did :P |
| 12:57.35 | Ra1d3n | yes ts has some pretty good features |
| 12:57.38 | Codayus | Matrix110: Disagree. What does TS do that Vent doesn't? |
| 12:57.39 | binder | I've got a 8mb/2mb pipe |
| 12:57.45 | Ra1d3n | but if were talking quality... |
| 12:57.46 | Revery | i personally hate the ts "features" |
| 12:57.48 | binder | async sucks |
| 12:57.54 | Revery | something as simple as being able to put a comment up |
| 12:58.01 | Revery | o whats that, can you link that again |
| 12:58.02 | Matrix110 | The builtin chat from TS is way better |
| 12:58.04 | Codayus | Whereas Vent lets you adjust volume on each person individually, which TS does not, IIRC. |
| 12:58.07 | Revery | i joined the server after you and your comment is no longeru p |
| 12:58.07 | Tornhoof | afaik it's not that easy on windows binder, you need raw socket support to tag QoS afaik |
| 12:58.09 | Matrix110 | the Admin System is way better |
| 12:58.13 | Ra1d3n | 40 man raid with vent is a desaster |
| 12:58.19 | Matrix110 | having Accounts makes the server much more secure than just a PW |
| 12:58.27 | binder | vent has that great compressor that lets you normalize everyone |
| 12:58.33 | Revery | as long as you have admins |
| 12:58.38 | Codayus | binder: That too... |
| 12:58.42 | Revery | no one wants security in guild voice chat |
| 12:58.47 | Revery | what are they gonna do, steal your voice? |
| 12:58.47 | binder | well |
| 12:58.53 | Matrix110 | Annoy other people |
| 12:59.01 | binder | I think some people hate vent because it's not free :P |
| 12:59.07 | Ra1d3n | ts with vent quality and latency, i'd even buy it ;) |
| 12:59.08 | Codayus | Matrix110: We have no use for builtin chat, nor for a fancy admin interface. :-) |
| 12:59.17 | Revery | lol i love the program, i just hate the douche behind it :-) |
| 12:59.20 | Grum | would I make someone happy in here with the old html pages (from archive.org) with wiki-topic/dates? |
| 12:59.20 | Matrix110 | Its not the Admin interface |
| 12:59.24 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r43366 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Some minor tweaks which I had hoped would reduce memory usage but didn't. |
| 12:59.28 | kenlyric | both need a way to remember mute settings. |
| 12:59.39 | binder | I love tuesdays |
| 12:59.39 | Matrix110 | its that not every moron can admin Vent if he somewhere got the PW from |
| 12:59.42 | binder | so many mod updates :) |
| 12:59.48 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:59.50 | Codayus | kenlyric: Hmm? Vent does that very well... |
| 12:59.51 | Revery | my vent remembers mute/volume settings |
| 12:59.51 | Matrix110 | +you can give people rights to only kick but do nothing else |
| 12:59.52 | Matrix110 | etc. |
| 13:00.16 | vithos | vent's (directsound's) compressor isn't really the same thing as normalization imo |
| 13:00.18 | kenlyric | does it? I thought so, but haven't used vent twice in a row (been rebuilding a lot this past couple weeks and not raiding) |
| 13:00.22 | Codayus | Matrix110: Right. But we have no need for that, so... |
| 13:00.24 | Matrix110 | And Builtin Chat is really good for posting URLs etc. |
| 13:00.35 | kebinusan | The one thing I hate about ventrilo is it doesnt normalize volume, I hate having my hearing damage every time someone uses vent for the first time or decides to be a total douche |
| 13:00.36 | kenlyric | first thing I do is mute 22 members of the raid. |
| 13:00.43 | Matrix110 | Then dont ask me about it Codayus i dont want to enforce you using TS... |
| 13:00.53 | vithos | i mean i'm no expert, but i use a compressor on vent and no amount of tweaking its settings will keep me from having to set manual volume controls on people |
| 13:00.55 | Grum | kenlyric: lol really? |
| 13:01.11 | Revery | cant see chat in TS unless you were on the server at the time |
| 13:01.14 | kenlyric | I miss old 40 man raids when you had class/role channels. |
| 13:01.15 | Revery | big problem |
| 13:01.15 | vithos | kebinusan: that's actually what the compressor is useful for. |
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| 13:01.24 | Grum | vithos: ventrilo gives a clear error why you cant if you can not do it ;D |
| 13:01.29 | kenlyric | healers are do busy to talk all the goddamn time. |
| 13:01.32 | kenlyric | *too busy |
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| 13:01.44 | Codayus | Matrix110: TS misses features I use and need. Vent doesn't... :-/ |
| 13:01.50 | Grum | kenlyric: make a healing channel for em to chat in? /join $guildnameheal :) |
| 13:01.53 | vithos | Grum: what? |
| 13:01.58 | Matrix110 | What does TS not have that Vent has Oo? |
| 13:02.01 | kenlyric | we have that too. |
| 13:02.07 | kebinusan | Bindings? |
| 13:02.10 | Grum | they spank em :P |
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| 13:02.37 | kebinusan | Everyone I know dislikes teamspeak because the default codec sounds like you are talking across tin cans and string |
| 13:02.38 | Revery | good interface |
| 13:02.55 | Ra1d3n | yes, its the codec |
| 13:02.58 | Codayus | Matrix110: Already said - better ability to adjust people individually. |
| 13:03.01 | Tornhoof | so what speex with 24kbit is fine enogh |
| 13:03.12 | kenlyric | kebinusan: you could make a valid arguement that the cans couldn't possibly be of such a high quaility metal as tin. |
| 13:03.16 | Grum | did anyone use the 'http://mikk.cjb.net/rewikify.awk' mentioned on the wikipage? :) |
| 13:03.36 | kebinusan | kenlyric, very true |
| 13:03.37 | kenlyric | yeah, i found no option in TS to alter the volume levels of individual members. |
| 13:03.40 | Tovort | on my EU server, noone uses vent, everyone´s using TS |
| 13:03.57 | kebinusan | TS has options to normalize volume though |
| 13:04.02 | Saint-N | thats because they're anti semetic bastards |
| 13:04.05 | kebinusan | so in theory you shouldnt need individual adjustments |
| 13:04.12 | kenlyric | in theory |
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| 13:04.37 | Revery | most of the time it's people having headsets that don't do normal volume levels |
| 13:04.55 | kenlyric | or that install them in the back of their mouth. |
| 13:05.04 | Tornhoof | hmm kenlyric?, afaik ts has no normalization options |
| 13:05.12 | Tornhoof | just some cheap volume control |
| 13:05.18 | kenlyric | Tornhoof: I didn't say it did. |
| 13:05.32 | Matrix110 | Just merge Vent and TS and everyone is happy |
| 13:05.34 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.51 | Grum | so what do you like? :P |
| 13:05.54 | Grum | typing? |
| 13:06.03 | kenlyric | people who can't funciton microphones are the same who use cell phones and move the mouthpiece down to their mouths every time they talk. |
| 13:06.04 | Grum | 'Do not walk back, patrol inco...' wipe :( |
| 13:06.09 | cryogen | nothing wrong with vent, plenty wrong with the people who use it :D |
| 13:06.10 | vithos | i haven't seen any VOIP i like. |
| 13:06.12 | Tornhoof | yah right, my bad kenlyric ;) |
| 13:06.15 | kebinusan | Vent on linux is kinda bleh, if you enable directsound the quality suffers greatly, but w/o you cant hear two people talking at the same time |
| 13:06.16 | kenlyric | they keep the mic micrometers away from their lips. |
| 13:06.30 | Revery | kenlyric: there's plenty of people simply without money to go buying headsets every time it gets flaky |
| 13:06.45 | Saint-N | kenlyric: or those people with the earbud andhanging mic that hold the wire near thier mouth |
| 13:06.58 | kenlyric | Revery: and the other issue is, 1/2 of them never need to talk. |
| 13:07.06 | Neebler | pretty much every vent server I've been on, there's that one moron who doesn't set up their mic settings right. So when they speak right after someone else, you hear that other persons voice magnified at 500% volume |
| 13:07.07 | kebinusan | I dont know whats worse, the one person whose mic is bad or the 20 people who yell at him afterwards |
| 13:07.25 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 13:07.25 | Revery | now feedback is a huge issue |
| 13:07.26 | Matrix110 | http://www.youtube.com/user/VideoCompiler |
| 13:07.32 | vithos | i'm checking out mumble now though, thanks for mentioning it |
| 13:07.35 | kenlyric | then there's the super idiot, with desktop speakers and mic. |
| 13:07.48 | Neebler | set to voice activation! |
| 13:07.50 | kenlyric | just... don't... talk. |
| 13:08.28 | Codayus | kenlyric: Actually, nothing wroth with speakers and a mic on a stand... *if* you have it set up right. |
| 13:08.39 | kenlyric | I spent a few months without a mic at all. Then it took me a coupe months to make it work, Then I spoke on it maybe twice. |
| 13:08.40 | Codayus | The "if" proves challenging for some people... |
| 13:10.04 | kebinusan | the real question about integrated voice chat in 2.2, is how long before gold advertisers abuse it |
| 13:10.39 | Revery | ha |
| 13:10.40 | Neebler | you like buy gold now ^_^ ? |
| 13:10.53 | Saint-N | hah matrix |
| 13:11.00 | Revery | and how long after that for a youtube gold farmer voice to go famous |
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| 13:11.12 | Saint-N | whats really awesome is that he could have the person going off on him arrested for "uttering threats" ;) |
| 13:12.38 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ping |
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| 13:13.34 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, Kaelten has been quite inaccessible today :p |
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| 13:13.45 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, hello :o |
| 13:13.51 | JoshBorke | hola cncfanatics |
| 13:13.58 | pb_ee1 | Yep, I've seen that, i'm just trying to gather his attention a bit but no worries I'll wait if he's not available ;) |
| 13:14.11 | pb_ee1 | Actually I'd like to help him, but I cannot since my account has been deleted (it seems) |
| 13:14.11 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, whats the issue ? |
| 13:14.16 | cncfanatics | oh heh |
| 13:14.24 | pb_ee1 | Well hyper asked me to put back some pages |
| 13:14.36 | pb_ee1 | I've even made a script that lets me recover the pages veeeery quickly |
| 13:14.45 | pb_ee1 | But I cannot put them back cause I cannot login to wowace :( |
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| 13:14.54 | pb_ee1 | "User pb_ee1" does not exist |
| 13:15.08 | pb_ee1 | Even if: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:Pb_ee1/Article:Restoring |
| 13:15.13 | Thrae | hm |
| 13:16.07 | pb_ee1 | And for the über script: http://zorglub6.free.fr/upload/acelinks.php |
| 13:18.26 | Saint-N | haha forcing your guild to listen to the entire "can't touch this" would be rather amusing |
| 13:18.39 | Saint-N | all of our wipes come complete with benny hill music on vent |
| 13:18.59 | Revery | music is strictly banned on my vent |
| 13:19.38 | Saint-N | its benny hill! |
| 13:19.46 | Saint-N | and its the perfect music for any wipe anywhere |
| 13:20.36 | Revery | i think the idea is that ppl have their own music/volume levels/atmosphere goin on |
| 13:21.10 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43367 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Damage - fixed maximumHitData key overwriting hit data option |
| 13:21.13 | Saint-N | cuz lord knows raids go better with hiphop ;P |
| 13:21.17 | Neebler | I enjoy hearing other peoples music from time to time on ventrilo. It exposes me to new bands |
| 13:21.24 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 13:21.41 | Saint-N | ya know what expose you to new bands better? |
| 13:21.43 | Wobin_ | someone used to log into the vent server, scream "DO YOU LIKE RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE??!" and start playing something |
| 13:21.49 | Saint-N | LEAVING YOUR HOUSE! ;) |
| 13:21.51 | Saint-N | heh |
| 13:22.00 | Neebler | I'm never satisfied with the music I have. A habitual music pirate |
| 13:22.12 | Saint-N | me talk pretty is playing next friday |
| 13:22.26 | Saint-N | i think im gonna go to taht show cuz the lead singer chickie is amazingly cute |
| 13:22.33 | Revery | sounds like you need pandora |
| 13:22.42 | Saint-N | pandora is rad too |
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| 13:23.12 | Thrae | I had my own Teamspeak server setup I was using to play with my family, and then one person found it randomly (guess he was port sniffing), logged in, and started spouting crap...all while my 9-year old brother was listening (he plays WoW too) |
| 13:23.17 | Saint-N | met her at the girls of metal tour with lacuna coil a month or so ago |
| 13:23.55 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: pong |
| 13:24.09 | Thrae | Cairenn: Oh, and touche`. |
| 13:24.43 | Cairenn | Thrae: heh |
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| 13:24.43 | Cairenn | JoshBorke: *hug* |
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| 13:25.17 | Margus | [Ammo]: gotta little question, is it possible to add an border to the buff/debuff bars like the one on the casting bar? |
| 13:25.44 | evl | A friend of mine with agUF can't see target debuff, a case of old version? |
| 13:25.50 | Margus | oh, at Quartz ofc :D |
| 13:27.28 | Kneebracehead | damn you tuesday maintenance!! |
| 13:27.44 | Margus | haha! |
| 13:27.50 | Margus | play on EU servaz! |
| 13:31.32 | Kneebracehead | the quats makes lolshadowpriesting easy! |
| 13:31.38 | Kneebracehead | quartz even |
| 13:31.52 | JoshBorke | shadow priests are already easy |
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| 13:32.24 | Kneebracehead | i had an oppertunity to play my roomates spriest in our group2 prince kill :P |
| 13:33.02 | Kneebracehead | at least it felt more invloved than my mage |
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| 13:33.14 | Kneebracehead | i had to like move and put up dots n stuff |
| 13:33.41 | Codayus | Shadow priests are more involved than a mage I'd say but...that's not saying much. :-) |
| 13:33.54 | cryogen | agree |
| 13:33.56 | cryogen | not much mind |
| 13:34.18 | Thrae | Codayus: Shadow Priests are only more involved then a Mage because there comes a point when, as a Shadow Priest, you have to defend yourself, where as a Mage, you just say "crap" and die. |
| 13:34.30 | abbat_w | =) |
| 13:34.34 | kbh | haha |
| 13:34.39 | abbat_w | it's wrong i think |
| 13:34.54 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:34.56 | abbat_w | as a Mage you have more abilities to defend yourself then shadowpriest |
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| 13:35.23 | kbh | mana tank ftw |
| 13:35.36 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 13:35.45 | abbat_w | !char eu warsong immoralist |
| 13:35.54 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/7/54). 10103 HP; 8366 Mana; 427 Int; 2008 Armour; +3.73% spell hit; +159 spell crit rating; 823 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; +422 resilience. (273m old) [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ytd85 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bavfk ]] |
| 13:36.13 | abbat_w | 10k hp, 2k armor, 422 resilience. it's a pvp gear |
| 13:36.19 | kbh | thats alotta resilience |
| 13:36.31 | kbh | i thought the cap was like 200 |
| 13:36.32 | abbat_w | ice block, crowd control abilites like nova/sheep |
| 13:36.57 | Megalon | that's -10% crit, nice |
| 13:37.02 | abbat_w | íóç |
| 13:37.04 | abbat_w | yep |
| 13:37.05 | Neebler | Master! Apprentice! Heartborne, 7th Seeker Warrior! Disciple! In me the Wishmaster |
| 13:37.13 | abbat_w | with molten armor -15% crit chance |
| 13:37.16 | abbat_w | it's not bat |
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| 13:37.44 | kbh | lol@nightwish |
| 13:37.55 | cncfanatics | wher's ckknight been ? |
| 13:38.02 | cncfanatics | I have a request for pitbull :p |
| 13:38.30 | evl | Add an antennae? |
| 13:38.35 | JoshBorke | he's done with pitbull for now |
| 13:38.42 | cncfanatics | he is ? :o |
| 13:38.44 | cncfanatics | why ? :( |
| 13:38.50 | Revery | i still get pitbull errors sometimes |
| 13:38.54 | Revery | i hope hes not done :-P |
| 13:39.08 | abbat_w | I need only one feature in PitBull |
| 13:39.23 | abbat_w | I need an options to turn off aura timers by frame |
| 13:39.27 | abbat_w | thats all |
| 13:39.38 | cryogen | i would like my debuffs not to smear all over my target frame when in a raid |
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| 13:39.46 | cryogen | but thats probably a configuration problem more than anything |
| 13:39.57 | Revery | you can config that cryogen |
| 13:40.06 | abbat_w | yep |
| 13:40.17 | cryogen | mind telling me where ?:) |
| 13:40.25 | Revery | if the servers were up |
| 13:40.25 | Revery | yes |
| 13:40.29 | steev64 | every once in a while my target frames graphic goes all wacky, but its not consistent or anything |
| 13:40.41 | Revery | steev64: i get that too! |
| 13:40.52 | Revery | it like tries to show a debuff icon as the whole target frame |
| 13:41.07 | Revery | so you get like a fireball or blessing of wisdom icon or something as the whole target frame |
| 13:41.10 | steev64 | is that what it is? for me its just... well i couldn't tell wtf it was |
| 13:41.15 | Revery | hehe yea |
| 13:41.19 | abbat_w | steev64, same for me |
| 13:41.23 | Revery | take a step back and you're like....damn! thats what that is |
| 13:41.45 | steev64 | heh |
| 13:41.59 | steev64 | now i have to fight with cedega to get it to apply the latest patch |
| 13:42.14 | abbat_w | And also if you have been killed at arena you after arena ends player frame looks like you are dead |
| 13:42.34 | cryogen | abbat_w: or! |
| 13:42.35 | steev64 | yeah |
| 13:42.37 | cryogen | if you die in mechanar |
| 13:42.38 | abbat_w | atl+z twice help in this situation and it's not annoying but... |
| 13:42.50 | cryogen | or somewhere else where you get ressed after releasing |
| 13:42.50 | steev64 | overall its quite spiffy |
| 13:42.53 | abbat_w | I remember about dieing in mechenar |
| 13:42.54 | cryogen | the player unitframe is all gray |
| 13:42.55 | cryogen | like being dead |
| 13:43.01 | abbat_w | But this error was fixed |
| 13:43.05 | steev64 | specially the threat bar |
| 13:43.14 | steev64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.40 | abbat_w | I don't run mechanar about month, but maybe this error respawn in pitbull again ;) |
| 13:44.05 | cryogen | was it fixed recently? was about a week ago since i noticed it |
| 13:44.09 | steev64 | it happens to me sometimes when i reincarnate |
| 13:44.18 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 13:44.22 | Wobin_ | well, I have vent kinda running |
| 13:44.23 | steev64 | i have a tendency to die a lot :) |
| 13:44.25 | abbat_w | yep, about a week i noticed this bug with arena |
| 13:44.30 | Wobin_ | except I can't seem to pipe the output to the headset |
| 13:44.37 | cryogen | steev64: me too! |
| 13:44.37 | Wobin_ | it just goes straight to my pc speakers |
| 13:44.37 | abbat_w | steev64 ;))) |
| 13:44.43 | steev64 | level 48 and taking on elite 54's tends to make that happen :-D |
| 13:44.55 | Wobin_ | which kinda defeats the whole point of the headset =\ |
| 13:45.02 | abbat_w | Wobin, this is because you think incorrect about chocolate ;) |
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| 13:45.21 | abbat_w | change you mind and error be fixed ;) |
| 13:45.29 | Wobin_ | abbat_w: Well, I admit I've never had Russian chocoalte |
| 13:45.34 | Wobin_ | Want to educate me? =) |
| 13:45.45 | abbat_w | if you come to russia, why not ;) |
| 13:45.50 | Wobin_ | Bah |
| 13:45.54 | Wobin_ | I was in china last year |
| 13:45.58 | Wobin_ | That's close enough =) |
| 13:46.01 | Wobin_ | Your turn |
| 13:46.11 | abbat_w | Oh... China is nice btw ;) |
| 13:46.18 | ilifin | http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9131/er1pg0.jpg |
| 13:46.51 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 13:47.23 | abbat_w | sometimes at bg i wrote in general something like 'Guys, <nick> stay at our GY about 5-10 min. Should we report this afker?' ;) |
| 13:47.25 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: you pinged me earlier? |
| 13:47.31 | abbat_w | And it's always help |
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| 13:50.26 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, yes I did, but the issue has been fixed since then :p |
| 13:50.32 | Cairenn | okay |
| 13:50.36 | cncfanatics | when I was on the website earlyer today |
| 13:51.03 | cncfanatics | I would get a download box instead of a webpage |
| 13:51.03 | cncfanatics | but fixed now so np |
| 13:51.04 | Saint-N | ya know whats fun to do when yer bored? |
| 13:51.12 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: bizarre |
| 13:51.17 | Saint-N | install every flavour of linux long enough to find one thing you despise about it |
| 13:51.41 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, probably a lack of a content-type header |
| 13:51.51 | Saint-N | wow fbsd has come a long way |
| 13:51.53 | cncfanatics | and as the files on the wiki have no extension it took them as downloadable files |
| 13:51.54 | JoshBorke | wowi logged me out :-( |
| 13:51.57 | Saint-N | it can no Harvest Entropy |
| 13:52.01 | Saint-N | !@ |
| 13:52.17 | Saint-N | no==now |
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| 13:53.49 | Wobin_ | ...what? |
| 13:54.32 | krka | is that the new shaman talent? |
| 13:54.48 | Saint-N | heh booting up desktopbsd's install there was a a line that read Entropy Harvesting: |
| 13:55.00 | Saint-N | just thought it was kind of amusing |
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| 13:56.05 | Revery | ever try ubuntu? |
| 13:56.17 | krka | everyone has |
| 13:56.22 | Saint-N | unfortunately yes |
| 13:56.24 | JoshBorke | not me krka |
| 13:56.28 | Saint-N | for about 3 minutes |
| 13:56.32 | JoshBorke | Saint-N: ever try BeOS? |
| 13:56.33 | krka | i like ubuntu |
| 13:56.34 | Revery | lol |
| 13:56.35 | krka | still use it |
| 13:56.38 | Saint-N | beos rules |
| 13:56.41 | Saint-N | plain and simple |
| 13:56.43 | Revery | only thing i like better than freebsd |
| 13:56.51 | Revery | i use it for wow |
| 13:56.56 | clad|book | <3 freebsd |
| 13:56.58 | Saint-N | i kind of miss it |
| 13:57.11 | Saint-N | netbsd gave me the same sorta beosy feeling |
| 13:57.15 | Saint-N | but it just wasnt the same |
| 13:57.34 | Saint-N | fbsd however... |
| 13:57.45 | Saint-N | THAT ive been running since 1.1.2 |
| 13:57.51 | clad|book | :P |
| 13:58.20 | Saint-N | was the only cd install around at the time |
| 13:58.34 | Saint-N | and i had no floppy for my thinkpad |
| 13:58.47 | Saint-N | mmmmmmmmmmmmm kernel hacking to make pccard shit work |
| 13:58.54 | Saint-N | oh speaking of which |
| 13:59.11 | Saint-N | anyone remember the command to force pccard detecting for network cards in 4.3 ? |
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| 14:00.57 | Saint-N | so far my fav linux flavours are: Sabayon for gaming, Fedora for generic use, Zenwalk for crappy computer support. Suse for Yast ;P |
| 14:01.17 | steev64 | sabayon ftl |
| 14:01.25 | Saint-N | JoshBorke: they still have beos links for leeching? |
| 14:01.36 | Saint-N | nah sabayon is decent enough for 64bit gaming |
| 14:01.39 | JoshBorke | i don't recall. i last tried it 5 years ago |
| 14:01.45 | Saint-N | the 32bit version blows goats |
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| 14:01.50 | steev64 | Saint-N: just use Gentoo, thats all it is anyway |
| 14:02.02 | Saint-N | i would except that i said "for gaming" |
| 14:02.21 | Saint-N | i like that the latest sabayon has the driver bins prebuilt in and working right |
| 14:02.28 | steev64 | ahh |
| 14:02.45 | steev64 | ati/nvidia? |
| 14:02.58 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 14:03.18 | Saint-N | has bleeding edge just posted to ati/nvidia site driver integration |
| 14:03.29 | Saint-N | thats really the only thing i like about it |
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| 14:03.49 | nevcairiel | whats sabayon ? was that this gentoo spinoff |
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| 14:04.18 | steev64 | sorta spinoff |
| 14:04.25 | Saint-N | yeah more or less the 3.3 or whatever has become a 3dgaming relaese platform |
| 14:09.16 | steev64 | Saint-N: what cedega settings do you use? |
| 14:09.33 | Saint-N | i dont |
| 14:09.37 | Saint-N | i use crossover |
| 14:09.41 | steev64 | ahh |
| 14:09.54 | steev64 | i always have a hell of a time getting to apply patches |
| 14:10.01 | Saint-N | depending on the nix flavour you'll get different perfomance out of each one |
| 14:10.33 | Saint-N | i usually let it leech the thingy, then stop when itsfinished and manually run the patch.exe |
| 14:10.42 | Saint-N | instead of letting it try and spawn itself |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43368 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | - Added zhCN localization |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | - Added new keys to locale files that need translating |
| 14:11.20 | steev64 | yeah - i can't actually get it to leech the patch |
| 14:11.27 | Saint-N | geez |
| 14:11.33 | Saint-N | 10am and its already 30C |
| 14:12.06 | Saint-N | only 57% humidity though so thats not too bad |
| 14:12.25 | cryogen | #char eu haomarush galencia |
| 14:12.38 | steev64 | !char us draka elekatun |
| 14:12.42 | ThraeBot | steev64: Elekatun, Level 48 Draenei Shaman (0/5/34). 2454 HP; 4559 Mana; 228 Int; 183 Spi; 3476 Armour; +4.73% melee crit; 6 +spell dmg/heal; 4.77% dodge; 4.96% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2btuoq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/376ktp ]] |
| 14:12.47 | cryogen | oh they changed it? |
| 14:12.51 | cryogen | !char eu haomarush galencia |
| 14:12.54 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Galencia, Level 70 Undead Priest (11/0/50). 7921 HP; 9645 Mana; 487 Int; 256 Spi; 1221 Armour; +2.7% spell hit; +168 spell crit rating; 535 +spell dmg/heal; +50 frost dmg (585); +50 shadow dmg (585); 4.9% dodge. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a4zwo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35e94n ]] |
| 14:12.57 | Saint-N | use /msg |
| 14:12.58 | cryogen | ThraeBot: cheers |
| 14:13.01 | cryogen | Saint-N: that works now? |
| 14:13.04 | Saint-N | yup |
| 14:13.07 | cryogen | oh good, thanks |
| 14:13.08 | steev64 | will do |
| 14:13.22 | nevcairiel | skip the ! in front of char in msg tho |
| 14:13.31 | cryogen | yar |
| 14:13.36 | steev64 | thats my resto shaman |
| 14:14.11 | Neebler | may be old to some, but a hilarious video regardless: http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/113079/Lady_s_iPhone_Buyout_Backfires.html |
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| 14:14.35 | steev64 | oh awesome. |
| 14:14.48 | Saint-N | heh apple and at&t stop capitalism! |
| 14:14.57 | steev64 | Blizzard Updater was unable to start up. There is no patch file to apply. |
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| 14:15.38 | Thorgard | !char us uldaman neneca |
| 14:15.42 | ThraeBot | Thorgard: Neneca, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/15/46). 6689 HP; 9789 Mana; 443 Int; 8112 Armour; 119 mp5; +4.68% melee crit; +3 spell crit rating; 160 +spell dmg; 1221 +heal; 9.68% dodge; 10% block; +25 all resists (+10 shadow). [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a87bk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vfgfb ]] |
| 14:16.03 | Sparhawke | whoa thats cool |
| 14:16.43 | flexom | !char eu silvermoon tinyboom |
| 14:16.48 | ThraeBot | flexom: Tinyboom, Level 70 Gnome Mage (40/0/21). 6843 HP; 9026 Mana; 471 Int; 202 Spi; 1227 Armour; +6.18% spell hit; +278 spell crit rating; 664 +spell dmg/heal; +351 frost dmg (1015); +117 arcane dmg (781); +183 shadow dmg (847); +117 fire dmg (781); 5.38% dodge; +10 all resists (+10 arcane). [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw6gbo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38lyj6 ]] |
| 14:17.02 | flexom | nice, links too now:) |
| 14:17.17 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.22 | Sparhawke | !char us detheroc sparhawke |
| 14:17.27 | ThraeBot | Sparhawke: Sparhawke, Level 70 Undead Warlock (40/0/21). 8440 HP; 8275 Mana; 396 Int; 1384 Armour; +9.43% spell hit; +284 spell crit rating; 888 +spell dmg/heal; +50 frost dmg (938); +101 shadow dmg (989); 4.28% dodge; +29 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2d4ynf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2no68r ]] |
| 14:17.36 | nevcairiel | Thrae: please turn it off in public :P |
| 14:17.51 | Thorgard | nevcairiel, party pooper. ;P |
| 14:17.59 | flexom | kk, get it, use /msg ThraeBot !char eu/us realm charname |
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| 14:20.05 | |Stan| | doesn't work |
| 14:20.17 | deltron | !char us suramar diode |
| 14:20.20 | ThraeBot | deltron: Diode, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/3/58). 8429 HP; 11472 Mana; 564 Int; 9734 Armour; 136 mp5; +4.32% melee crit; +4 spell crit rating; 192 +spell dmg; 1563 +heal; 4.32% dodge; 5% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/236ft3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y4nm5 ]] |
| 14:20.33 | steev64 | flexom: its /msg ThraeBot char eu/us realm charname - no ! needed in msg |
| 14:20.34 | Litvan | ./msg ThraeBot !char eu stormrage litvan <-- doesn't work no :P |
| 14:20.42 | deltron | ooo |
| 14:20.44 | flexom | ahhh, sry about that:) |
| 14:20.57 | deltron | there we go |
| 14:21.28 | binder | oh no way |
| 14:21.43 | binder | !char us anetheron bindar |
| 14:21.47 | ThraeBot | binder: Bindar, Level 70 Troll Warrior (11/5/45). 14084 HP; 274 Str; 16568 Armour; 788 AP; +12.26% melee crit; +312 defense; 18.23% dodge; 24.54% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yojh2r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/yvlv42 ]] |
| 14:21.53 | deltron | troll ftw! |
| 14:22.10 | deltron | armour! :P |
| 14:22.13 | deltron | lol |
| 14:22.14 | binder | in the past 3 years I've caught so much heat for that :P |
| 14:22.20 | deltron | troll > * |
| 14:22.21 | deltron | :D |
| 14:22.26 | |Stan| | [16:22:18] <|Stan|> char eu Zirkel des Cenarius Stanzilla <- doesn't work |
| 14:22.27 | binder | amen! |
| 14:22.27 | Grum | !char eu doomhammer neriah |
| 14:22.30 | ThraeBot | Grum: Neriah, Level 70 Gnome Warrior (8/5/48). 13884 HP; 286 Str; 15488 Armour; 762 AP; +11.53% melee crit; +324 defense; 21.17% dodge; 27.15% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bgxtx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36poxw ]] |
| 14:22.31 | |Stan| | I guess because of the spaces |
| 14:22.45 | binder | !char cho'gall handoverfist |
| 14:22.51 | binder | is it one l? |
| 14:22.52 | deltron | gnome! *shakes fist* |
| 14:22.53 | thecookie | The spam! |
| 14:22.56 | binder | !char cho'gal handoverfist |
| 14:23.02 | Gnancy | gnome ftw |
| 14:23.04 | binder | !char us cho'gal handoverfist |
| 14:23.05 | ThraeBot | binder: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 14:23.10 | binder | !char us cho'gall handoverfist |
| 14:23.13 | ThraeBot | binder: Handoverfist, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (33/25/3). 12489 HP; 578 Str; 184 Agi; 9734 Armour; 1782 AP; +33.77% melee crit; 6.89% dodge; 5% block; +168 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yu3t2p ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pdj7o ]] |
| 14:23.36 | Gnancy | !char us magtheridon gnancy |
| 14:23.39 | ThraeBot | Gnancy: Gnancy, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (41/0/20). 8510 HP; 8830 Mana; 433 Int; 1289 Armour; +4.44% spell hit; +166 spell crit rating; 890 +spell dmg; +179 frost dmg (1069); +255 shadow dmg (1145); 4.47% dodge. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23onmg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3d68tv ]] |
| 14:23.45 | thecookie | My eyes. |
| 14:23.52 | binder | !char eu magtheridon kungen |
| 14:23.55 | ThraeBot | binder: Kungen, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 18379 HP; 184 Str; 19265 Armour; 678 AP; +10.53% melee crit; +386 defense; 29.39% dodge; 31.74% block. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypvejw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l84ov ]] |
| 14:23.59 | si-m1 | it works in privmsg, but there's no "!" |
| 14:24.05 | deltron | dang |
| 14:24.15 | binder | oh crap I need to register |
| 14:24.18 | |Stan| | !char eu Zirkel des Cenarius Stanzilla |
| 14:24.19 | krka | Neebler: funny! |
| 14:24.21 | deltron | lulz |
| 14:24.22 | ThraeBot | |Stan|: Stanzilla, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (18/43/0). 8544 HP; 285 Str; 194 Agi; 7223 Armour; 808 AP; +15.6% melee crit; +81 defense; 9.58% dodge; 6.36% block; +20 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a3ech ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cfzzo ]] |
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| 14:25.38 | Grum | !char eu "Zirkel des Cenarius" Stanzilla |
| 14:25.39 | ThraeBot | Grum: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 14:25.42 | Grum | nub |
| 14:25.53 | Grum | !char eu Zirkel+des+Cenarius Stanzilla |
| 14:25.56 | ThraeBot | Grum: Stanzilla, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (18/43/0). 8544 HP; 285 Str; 194 Agi; 7223 Armour; 808 AP; +15.6% melee crit; +81 defense; 9.58% dodge; 6.36% block; +20 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22c46x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lryhm ]] |
| 14:25.59 | Saint-N | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Im-Sure-You-Can-Deal.aspx |
| 14:26.00 | Grum | \o/ victory |
| 14:26.20 | winkiller | !char eu aggramar tharabas |
| 14:26.24 | ThraeBot | winkiller: Tharabas, Level 70 Orc Rogue (19/42/0). 9554 HP; 496 Agi; 3312 Armour; 1439 AP; +22.06% melee crit; 24.42% dodge; +54 resilience; +33 all resists. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq2ov6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lcf35 ]] |
| 14:26.28 | winkiller | does he like me now? finally! |
| 14:26.35 | Killmore7 | !char us ysera killmore |
| 14:26.39 | ThraeBot | Killmore7: Killmore, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6341 HP; 9135 Mana; 453 Int; 363 Spi; 1367 Armour; 181 mp5; 90 +spell dmg; 1719 +heal; 6.18% dodge. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29t4lp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/355rqo ]] |
| 14:27.02 | Grum | !char eu doomhammer xaros |
| 14:27.03 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.05 | ThraeBot | Grum: Xaros, Level 70 Human Priest (21/40/0). 7561 HP; 10500 Mana; 544 Int; 511 Spi; 1835 Armour; 212 mp5; 153 +spell dmg; 1732 +heal; 6.3% dodge; +33 all resists. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fh5xj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kr79p ]] |
| 14:27.12 | deltron | haha |
| 14:27.18 | Grum | just in time! ;D |
| 14:27.40 | winkiller | msg also works |
| 14:27.45 | Grum | i wonder if !chart triggers it O.o |
| 14:27.55 | Grum | pfew ^^ |
| 14:28.02 | binder | how do you access the EU armory on the web? |
| 14:28.03 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.04 | deltron | :D |
| 14:28.06 | binder | wow-europe? |
| 14:28.13 | winkiller | yed |
| 14:28.15 | winkiller | *s |
| 14:28.22 | Saint-N | you'll notice i have no +o but it sure scared you guys ;P |
| 14:28.27 | Grum | binder: armory.wow-europe.com or follow one of the million eu tiny-url links just spammed into this channel ;) |
| 14:28.45 | Grum | Saint-N: O.o |
| 14:29.00 | Saint-N | but /msg thraebot char eu/us server charactername is the prefered format |
| 14:29.43 | sylvanaar | !char us proudmoore sylvaan |
| 14:29.50 | ThraeBot | sylvanaar: Sylvaan, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (5/0/56). 6544 HP; 8870 Mana; 452 Int; 414 Spi; 1839 Armour; 82 mp5; +2.44% melee crit; 26 +spell dmg; 992 +heal; 4.23% dodge. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr5afx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3am9nn ]] |
| 14:30.07 | Saint-N | pssst assclown |
| 14:30.13 | deltron | lol |
| 14:30.14 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 14:30.14 | Saint-N | fergot the /msg thraebot ;P |
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| 14:33.42 | Saint-N | god i hate kde |
| 14:36.36 | Grum | why? |
| 14:36.50 | Grum | i hate mediawiki :D |
| 14:37.18 | NightHawkTheSane | I hate ties. |
| 14:37.56 | Grum | humz wowace.com just really slow or broken? :P |
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| 14:38.23 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: Wake up dude, I can read Q-W-E-R-T on your face! ;-) |
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| 14:39.20 | n4LR | heh |
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| 14:42.03 | Neebler | http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/114117/What_is_Our_Place_in_The_Cosmos.html |
| 14:44.00 | sbu | Grum: mhhmm |
| 14:44.03 | sbu | nice :o |
| 14:44.08 | cncfanatics | Neebler -.- |
| 14:44.14 | cncfanatics | spikedhumor is blocked by my work :( |
| 14:44.18 | sbu | Grum: wtb mooncloth :p |
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| 14:44.35 | cncfanatics | Neebler, please pastey it ? (a) |
| 14:44.45 | [Ammo] | get a better job |
| 14:44.58 | cncfanatics | american express |
| 14:45.01 | cncfanatics | good enough :p |
| 14:45.05 | sbu | Grum: ah okay, raidbuffed :p |
| 14:45.08 | [Ammo] | not good enough without pr0n |
| 14:46.45 | Grum | sbu: ? |
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| 14:47.15 | sbu | Grum: your priest... 212 mp5 and stuff :o |
| 14:47.43 | steev64 | ugh. |
| 14:48.01 | steev64 | now i can't get wow to say anything but failed to apply patch |
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| 14:48.10 | Grum | could have that if i didn't care for stamina gear hehe :) |
| 14:48.28 | Grum | was actually 281 with BoW |
| 14:48.36 | Grum | (and BoK0 |
| 14:49.21 | Grum | and with trinket proccing over 400 |
| 14:50.37 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43369 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 14:50.37 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:50.37 | CIA-22 | - Fixed rating conversion for below level 60 |
| 14:50.40 | kebinusan | that char feature on thraebot is kinda neat |
| 14:50.52 | sbu | Grum: mhhm... |
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| 14:51.16 | sbu | !char eu khaz'goroth smb |
| 14:51.23 | ThraeBot | sbu: Smb, Level 70 Undead Priest (23/38/0). 6561 HP; 9705 Mana; 491 Int; 328 Spi; 1296 Armour; 182 mp5; 35 +spell dmg; 1423 +heal; 4.9% dodge. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hr9hz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rz86t ]] |
| 14:51.24 | sbu | Grum: w/o any buff :/ |
| 14:51.54 | Grum | specced 21+ in disc? :) |
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| 14:52.03 | jme | !char us stormreaver kadrahil |
| 14:52.09 | ThraeBot | jme: Kadrahil, Level 70 Blood Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 7547 HP; 6208 Mana; 429 Agi; 207 Int; 4857 Armour; 17 mp5; 1214 AP; 1318 RAP; +15.85% melee crit; +21.53% ranged crit; 11.71% dodge; +15 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gcss4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lmv4a ]] |
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| 14:52.15 | jme | :/ |
| 14:52.29 | jme | wasn't wearing two of my BL pieces, my agi is over 500 |
| 14:53.03 | Grum | oh well .. I love the alchemists stone :P |
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| 14:53.13 | nevcairiel | its so great |
| 14:53.25 | Grum | could get a 'real' trinket in stead but really .. it rawks |
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| 14:53.38 | Grum | also bangle of the endless blessings :P |
| 14:53.48 | nevcairiel | mana regeneration trinkets are so rare these days |
| 14:53.53 | Grum | if that procs i shoot over 400mp5 |
| 14:53.53 | nevcairiel | i love the alchemist stone for that |
| 14:54.06 | Grum | for 30s (i think) |
| 14:54.40 | Grum | oh just 15 O.o |
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| 14:56.31 | steev64 | i wish all the JC trinkets weren't bop - there are so few trinkets these days |
| 14:56.53 | Grum | yeah - blizz somewhat forces you into certain professions :) |
| 14:57.05 | Grum | as a priest you *need* alchemy for that stupid stone :) |
| 14:57.14 | Pkekyo | just spent six hours sleeping ON my keyboard >.< |
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| 14:57.37 | vithos | jme: no meta gem? surely you can drop some spirit shards for the cheap one at least ;) |
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| 14:59.11 | cncfanatics | work DONE omg time to go hom |
| 14:59.16 | phirephly | I'm new to IRC. Can anyone tell me if I"ve registered correctly? |
| 14:59.19 | steev64 | er |
| 14:59.20 | steev64 | wtf? |
| 14:59.30 | steev64 | I ran the repair |
| 14:59.32 | jme | vithos: i am saving for the relentless earthstorm diamond |
| 14:59.33 | steev64 | it goes through |
| 14:59.42 | steev64 | and at the end says, Error Invalid torrent file |
| 14:59.46 | phirephly | I got here through the wowace site. |
| 14:59.51 | jme | vithos: but.. i'm also waiting to get the BL helm, because i think it'll be my main set |
| 15:00.01 | jme | vithos: i have three pieces of both BL and desolation sets |
| 15:00.03 | vithos | jme: is that the 12 agi 3% crit dmg bonus or the haste proc? |
| 15:00.05 | kebinusan | phirephly, we can see what you type thats generally good enough |
| 15:00.08 | phirephly | Thanks. |
| 15:00.14 | jme | vithos: the 12 agi/3% crit dmg |
| 15:00.23 | steev64 | jme: thats a nice one |
| 15:00.25 | kebinusan | !char us Shu'halo Kebinusan |
| 15:00.26 | phirephly | I feel for you guys. I'm in IT myself and disaster recovery is a pain. If there is anything I can do, let me know. |
| 15:00.27 | ThraeBot | kebinusan: Kebinusan, Level 70 Human Warlock (42/0/19). 7930 HP; 8410 Mana; 405 Int; 1363 Armour; +14.82% spell hit; +172 spell crit rating; 945 +spell dmg/heal; +59 shadow dmg (1004); 4.59% dodge; +18 resilience. (11m old) [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yofovr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qrt5y ]] |
| 15:00.28 | steev64 | i have it |
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| 15:00.35 | jme | steev64: cool |
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| 15:00.47 | steev64 | it definitely helps |
| 15:00.48 | vithos | ah, yeah that's the gem i'm using currently, but i'm thinking of switching to the haste proc one |
| 15:00.57 | vithos | !char us draka vith |
| 15:01.00 | ThraeBot | vithos: Vith, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (42/19/0). 7518 HP; 7063 Mana; 620 Agi; 264 Int; 6092 Armour; 23 mp5; 1879 AP; 1969 RAP; +17.68% melee crit; +24.11% ranged crit; 20.35% dodge; +25 all resists (+10 nature). [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xp46l ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3a6me3 ]] |
| 15:01.01 | steev64 | though i'd probably benefit more from a sub build than my current one |
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| 15:01.21 | steev64 | ack, vithos is on my server |
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| 15:01.46 | steev64 | oooh, serenity |
| 15:02.02 | jme | vithos: you have the weapons i want <3 |
| 15:02.11 | vithos | steev64: hi2u sir |
| 15:02.15 | jme | haha, serenity's my pet's name |
| 15:03.03 | phirephly | My main is a hunter. Used to have a scorpid named "fluffy". |
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| 15:03.12 | steev64 | i are in a small guild |
| 15:03.17 | Saint-N | http://www.vega.org.uk/video/programme/45 |
| 15:03.22 | vithos | phirephly: i have Scorpy and Kitty |
| 15:03.22 | steev64 | and my shaman is in an even smaller guild |
| 15:03.45 | kenlyric | my hunters always get cats named Tevildo |
| 15:04.01 | jme | vithos: do you have a pvp set? |
| 15:04.04 | kebinusan | hunter pets in our guild get named after guild members who gquit |
| 15:04.11 | steev64 | hah |
| 15:04.13 | vithos | jme: nope |
| 15:04.15 | jme | kebinusan: haha |
| 15:04.18 | steev64 | acceptinvite is in your guild now |
| 15:04.35 | vithos | acceptinvite was removed |
| 15:04.38 | jme | kebinusan: that's a good idea.. i think i'm going to put in a ticket to rename my pet ;) |
| 15:04.44 | steev64 | the armory still shows him in there |
| 15:04.54 | steev64 | he was in azerothselite back when i was in it |
| 15:05.11 | Saint-N | http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/07/07/03/10136373.html okay wtf |
| 15:05.19 | phirephly | Do you have a hunter-only guild? |
| 15:05.27 | kenlyric | i got about as nerdy as I got. Tevildo, Prince of Cats is the name/form Sauron has in the Book of Lost Tales |
| 15:05.30 | vithos | hmm... dunno why armory would show him still in. it's been a month probably |
| 15:06.01 | vithos | i've heard mention of AE, but i only started playing in time to reach 60 two days before BC was released |
| 15:06.35 | steev64 | i was in them long ago |
| 15:06.37 | jme | vithos: at least you were 60 before BC was released :/ |
| 15:06.52 | jme | vithos: i didn't roll that character until feb, my highest toon before bc was around 21 |
| 15:06.57 | steev64 | before they were doing MC - actually, i got booted on their second or third attempt at MC |
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| 15:07.32 | deltron | I spent way too much time in MC :( |
| 15:07.45 | steev64 | the run was supposed to start at 7pm server, and at 10pm people were still logging on, and i told the guild leader that his leadership skills sucked |
| 15:08.01 | vithos | haha, nice one |
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| 15:08.46 | vithos | we start 20 minutes late on average probably. so we moved the raid time back 30 minutes to compensate |
| 15:08.49 | steev64 | i'm Solene, or Elekatun |
| 15:09.17 | kebinusan | Im a terrible gm |
| 15:09.21 | steev64 | solene = 70 rogue, Revolution, elekatun = 48 shaman, Clandestine Circle |
| 15:10.03 | vithos | hmm, i haven't heard of those guilds. where at in progression? |
| 15:10.12 | steev64 | we are on curator |
| 15:10.27 | steev64 | and clandestine circle is just 4 of us |
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| 15:10.28 | kebinusan | shu'halo is a cesspool of a server |
| 15:10.35 | steev64 | 4 shamans actually heh |
| 15:10.38 | vithos | ah cool |
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| 15:10.57 | steev64 | all level 40, or 48 - its my girlfriend and i, and a buddy of mine and his girlfriend |
| 15:11.12 | vithos | i want a resto shaman |
| 15:11.20 | steev64 | i love mine |
| 15:11.33 | steev64 | i have a hard time attacking stuff without running outta mana |
| 15:11.34 | deltron | I'm a resto shaman :D |
| 15:11.41 | steev64 | but, if i heal stuff, i can heal for days on end |
| 15:12.12 | Grum | druid? :) |
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| 15:12.39 | jme | vithos: i'm thinking about rolling alliance somewhere :/ |
| 15:12.47 | jme | the horde progression on my realm isn't all that great |
| 15:13.00 | jme | we have two guilds in ssc that i know of. |
| 15:13.07 | vithos | hmm.. my advice to you, don't pick draka |
| 15:13.08 | lolinternet | ... |
| 15:13.15 | lolinternet | ANTIARC |
| 15:13.17 | jme | vithos: hah |
| 15:13.22 | steev64 | i second vithos's advice |
| 15:13.47 | jme | i figured that by the time i roll another character to 70 |
| 15:13.54 | jme | kara will be on pug status |
| 15:14.09 | vithos | on draka, there's too many guilds and not enough skill to go around |
| 15:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Fix Judgement threat Antiarc D: |
| 15:14.28 | steev64 | vithos: so true |
| 15:14.38 | jme | vithos: eh. |
| 15:14.40 | Saint-N | kara IS pug status |
| 15:14.53 | jme | vithos: my realm has an alliance guild in BT already, 3 bosses down i think |
| 15:15.00 | jme | Impervious... they're one of the top 50 worldwide |
| 15:15.18 | vithos | if we could somehow consolidate all the good players, i'm sure we'd be complete with SSC/TK, but we're about halfway there |
| 15:15.23 | jme | Cryect: how many BT bosses do you guys have down? |
| 15:15.41 | Grum | WTB Focused people ^^ |
| 15:15.42 | steev64 | sadly, ill never get to SSC/TK |
| 15:16.01 | jme | steev64: i won't any time soon, that's for sure |
| 15:16.07 | Grum | does anyone have the problem that people are just not doing enough dps? :P |
| 15:16.11 | steev64 | jme: our guild is super picky |
| 15:16.18 | Grum | (so you die on LootReaver O.o) |
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| 15:16.20 | steev64 | which is good, but its bad too |
| 15:16.34 | steev64 | Grum: er, what? |
| 15:16.45 | Grum | well we kinda have a dps problem |
| 15:16.54 | jme | tell your dps to l2dps? |
| 15:17.04 | Grum | tanks are good, healing is excellent and dps .. we have 3-4 people able to do 800+ dps sustained |
| 15:17.08 | Antiarc|Work | Morning |
| 15:17.14 | jme | Grum: ... |
| 15:17.16 | Grum | rest is 400-500 range O.o |
| 15:17.25 | jme | Grum: i do 700+ dps sustained in blues and a few purples |
| 15:17.34 | vithos | Grum: my guild wiped to void reaver, partly because my cat outdpses some players, and partly because some players can't avoid gigantic slow moving orbs |
| 15:17.51 | Grum | i felt kinda ashamed |
| 15:18.02 | Grum | even a nub-guild on our server killed it in the 3rd try |
| 15:18.06 | thecookie | Nice. |
| 15:18.08 | jme | vithos: what's your shot rotation like? i'm finally starting to get my timing down |
| 15:18.08 | steev64 | i don't do 800+ sustained dps :( |
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| 15:18.17 | Grum | after 4 days .. we finally managed to get him to 3% @ enrage O.o |
| 15:18.23 | Antiarc|Work | 800+ sustained is pretty low for melee on Void Reaver |
| 15:18.26 | jme | vithos: open with aimed, alternate steady/auto and throw in arcane every once in a while. |
| 15:18.26 | Antiarc|Work | tbh |
| 15:18.29 | Kaelten | lol forgive a guy for sleeping |
| 15:18.32 | Trancer | Oh my Grum! |
| 15:18.37 | Matrix110 | Antiarc depends if you run out or not |
| 15:18.38 | Grum | noes! |
| 15:18.42 | Trancer | <3<3 wubble |
| 15:18.46 | vithos | jme: steady/auto castsequence+kc macro |
| 15:18.52 | Trancer | ;-) |
| 15:19.01 | Grum | grin |
| 15:19.06 | sbu | hm - void reaver? |
| 15:19.08 | jme | vithos: yeah |
| 15:19.10 | sbu | pretty easy |
| 15:19.13 | Grum | right .. i just did /tickle trancer .. O.o |
| 15:19.20 | vithos | jme: i don't bother opening with aimed, as i'm usually opening with other casts like misdirection |
| 15:19.24 | sbu | 2 rogues died hat 80% - and we killed 1min before enraged ;p |
| 15:19.26 | Trancer | :p |
| 15:19.31 | jme | vithos: ah |
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| 15:19.37 | Trancer | Grum: where are you playing nowadays? |
| 15:19.40 | Matrix110 | But as a Mage having 800dps is possible but depends on the amount of orbs you get... i try i got like every 3rd orb which was pretty annoying |
| 15:19.41 | Grum | but rogues have to run when he starts to stomp |
| 15:19.42 | Trancer | no more Tura, right? |
| 15:19.46 | Grum | Trancer: doomhammer |
| 15:19.52 | Trancer | ah |
| 15:19.56 | Trancer | TLW has a DPS problem too >:P |
| 15:20.02 | Antiarc|Work | Rogues only need to take one step back, then one step back in. |
| 15:20.13 | Grum | Antiarc|Work: you are rogue? :P |
| 15:20.18 | Matrix110 | And if you can afford healing melee dont let them run atall |
| 15:20.21 | Antiarc|Work | They only lose white DPS, since rogue yellow DPS is energy-limited anyway and they won't get any overticks during pounding |
| 15:20.21 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 15:20.28 | Grum | good, i'll tell them :P |
| 15:20.33 | Grum | i see them running all over the bloody place |
| 15:20.37 | Antiarc|Work | Have them stand right on the edge of the hitbox |
| 15:20.39 | Trancer | yeah, rogues step back a bit |
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| 15:20.42 | Trancer | Grum: put shamans on the back of reaver |
| 15:20.48 | Grum | but rogues arent the main problem |
| 15:20.49 | Trancer | Grum: so they can chain the rogues |
| 15:20.52 | Antiarc|Work | They take 1-2 steps back to get out of melee range (if they can't hit VR, pounding can't hit them) |
| 15:21.02 | Antiarc|Work | Then just 1-2 steps back in. Very little DPS lost. |
| 15:21.04 | sbu | we use some nice tactics |
| 15:21.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:19] <Matrix110> But as a Mage having 800dps is possible but depends on the amount of orbs you get... i try i got like every 3rd orb which was pretty annoying <--if you need anything but raid buffs for 800 dps in TE or SSC get out |
| 15:21.07 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 15:21.08 | Grum | we didn't have healing shammies then.. and now just 1.4 of em |
| 15:21.08 | vithos | jme: it's really sad, but i could just bind every key on my keyboard to my shot macro and roll my face on it for top dps |
| 15:21.09 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry for the bold |
| 15:21.14 | sbu | put ppl togher in groups of 3 ppl |
| 15:21.15 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you ctrl + b |
| 15:21.16 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 15:21.20 | jme | vithos: haha |
| 15:21.32 | sbu | and position each group >20y from next |
| 15:21.36 | jme | sag_ich_nicht: fail ;) |
| 15:21.40 | Grum | vithos: yeah hunters is boring - especially BMs :) |
| 15:21.46 | Trancer | Grum: and make sure people don't waste too much time running around |
| 15:21.53 | sag_ich_nicht | jme: blame my model m |
| 15:21.56 | Grum | Trancer: you killed it? |
| 15:21.57 | Matrix110 | sag_ich_nicht i got np with having that high dps:P i was just saying its kinda luck based at void reaver atleast |
| 15:21.59 | Trancer | Grum: yes |
| 15:22.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i was at work on a shitty keyboard |
| 15:22.06 | Grum | how much time on enrage? |
| 15:22.08 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 15:22.11 | Trancer | Grum: 1m or so |
| 15:22.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:21] <Matrix110> sag_ich_nicht i got np with having that high dps:P i was just saying its kinda luck based at void reaver atleast <-- :O |
| 15:22.18 | sbu | so if 1 of the group gets targetet, group runs away from VR (linear from void reaver, not in direction of other groupss_ |
| 15:22.21 | sbu | pretty easy then :o |
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| 15:22.43 | Grum | so that is 8333 DPS of the raid |
| 15:22.50 | Grum | we barely scratch 7.4k |
| 15:22.54 | sbu | see http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=4fbwdku621ing |
| 15:23.05 | Trancer | Grum: you can gain a lot of DPS by having ranged move properly |
| 15:23.06 | Grum | and 7.5k is needed for a 'half-raid-dead' kill |
| 15:23.10 | sbu | our last kill - 2 rogues dead at ~80% |
| 15:23.29 | Trancer | Grum: many ranged moves like this.. BOLT INCOMING (group is standing like this x x x x x) |
| 15:23.40 | Trancer | people typically move: x x x (bolt) x x |
| 15:23.48 | Trancer | should be (bolt) x x x x x |
| 15:23.52 | jme | one time our guild had some bad luck with everyone that got turned into little red riding hood getting insta killed... |
| 15:23.55 | Trancer | x x x x x (bolt) |
| 15:24.02 | Grum | so you mean move with a group of 5 |
| 15:24.02 | jme | they ended up 4 manning the last 5 or 10% of him |
| 15:24.07 | vithos | here's the only VR report that hasn't expired off my profile yet, if anyone's interested (8233 DPS): http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=cbp2mw5g3q1ie&s=6229-6817 |
| 15:24.22 | Trancer | Grum: yes, stand on top of eachother, reduces the area you need and you reduce the amount of repositioning |
| 15:24.26 | Saint-N | heh we did riding hood the other day right out of the gate i got hit with it and killed |
| 15:24.35 | jme | Saint-N: :P |
| 15:24.38 | Trancer | Grum: you can see it on the movie in your PM, note I had to DPS break there due to Shatter CD :~( |
| 15:24.38 | Grum | well problem is that people need to stop casting *AND* pay attention |
| 15:24.45 | Saint-N | like 1 second after i clicked yes for the raid check |
| 15:24.47 | Grum | and the chance to move is 5 times higher |
| 15:24.50 | Saint-N | it was awesome |
| 15:24.52 | jme | Saint-N: haha |
| 15:24.53 | Trancer | Grum: get them to use max viewing distance |
| 15:25.00 | jme | Saint-N: you know to run around the edge of the stage? |
| 15:25.01 | Grum | we do - we have sucky people |
| 15:25.03 | steev64 | anyone have a high level shaman? |
| 15:25.05 | sbu | Grum: group of 5? no |
| 15:25.09 | sbu | group of 3 ist just fine |
| 15:25.18 | Grum | anything more than 3? :) |
| 15:25.21 | Grum | erm 2 |
| 15:25.25 | Thorgard | steev64, got a level 70 Resto Shaman. |
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| 15:25.41 | sbu | 3 is okay, 2, dont know if you have enough free space there.. between the gorups |
| 15:25.42 | Saint-N | jme: heh i was standing with the rest of the group, raid check popped up i clicked yes, poof im hood i take one step to the left to start running around and wolfy is on me |
| 15:25.49 | Saint-N | he didnt even stop to say hi to the tank |
| 15:25.49 | steev64 | Thorgard: when/where do we get the fire elemental totem |
| 15:25.53 | sbu | and keep your rogues at the boss - all the time... |
| 15:26.01 | jme | Saint-N: nice |
| 15:26.03 | Saint-N | it's like all my aggro from the last 4 fights was justing building and building |
| 15:26.05 | sbu | healing them is much easier than keeping free space behind them and stuff |
| 15:26.11 | sbu | 2 shamans w/ chain heal are just fine |
| 15:26.16 | Grum | oh well will just suggest it |
| 15:26.19 | Saint-N | it was the funniest thing though |
| 15:26.22 | Grum | but people seem to like pure chaos |
| 15:26.25 | Grum | which i didn't like ;D |
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| 15:26.46 | Thorgard | steev64, AoE pulls gone wrong, boss-encounters where you need 'extra' DPS and when you want to impress the womenz! Them's mainly the times I whip it out.. |
| 15:26.46 | Trancer | heh |
| 15:26.56 | Trancer | voidreaver is really a matter of controlling chaos |
| 15:26.57 | Grum | seems to be so backward - tanks and healers ok .. and sucky DPS .. |
| 15:26.58 | sbu | we tried chaos... everybody running away from his thing... and it didnt work :o |
| 15:27.01 | Trancer | or just have moron dps and be able to pull it off |
| 15:27.04 | Grum | i'd just expected it to be the other way around |
| 15:27.06 | steev64 | Thorgard: er, no - i meant - im level 48 - where/when do i get it |
| 15:27.11 | Thorgard | Oh. |
| 15:27.25 | Matrix110 | No LAdy Vashj is a matter of controlling Chaos:P |
| 15:27.32 | Thorgard | 68 for the Fire dude. ;P |
| 15:27.35 | Grum | i dont want to think about that guy |
| 15:27.39 | steev64 | ahh ok :) |
| 15:27.39 | Trancer | lady vashj soon.. soon |
| 15:27.40 | Grum | we cant even nail Hydross yet |
| 15:27.46 | Trancer | dead murlocs for now |
| 15:27.46 | Grum | and we still wipe on Mag occasionally |
| 15:27.48 | Grum | because peopel NUB |
| 15:27.59 | Thorgard | 66 for the earthy. |
| 15:28.11 | Matrix110 | If you do Vashj the first few times its such a mess compared to most other bosses |
| 15:28.20 | jme | tanks are in really short supply on my server it seems |
| 15:28.25 | Matrix110 | But it gets more and more controlled the more tries you do |
| 15:28.31 | Grum | same here - luckily my gf is a tank :P |
| 15:28.34 | jme | never can find a good one for a pug.. and the good pally tank i found respecced holy :( |
| 15:28.45 | Saint-N | grum: *rimshot*? |
| 15:28.57 | Grum | noes |
| 15:29.05 | cotangent___ | I can't remember that last pug I tanked. closest thing is running a 5 man for two guild alts |
| 15:29.07 | jme | Grum: my gf is a huntard like me |
| 15:29.14 | Grum | heh |
| 15:29.19 | Saint-N | "i'll sayshe is, twice as wide and 4 times the weight! |
| 15:29.31 | Grum | sigh |
| 15:29.35 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 15:29.36 | Grum | jealous? :P |
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| 15:29.46 | Saint-N | of you having a girlfriend whos a tank? |
| 15:29.52 | Grum | no having a gf ;D |
| 15:29.56 | Saint-N | im gonna go no on this one ;P |
| 15:30.06 | Grum | sigh |
| 15:30.16 | Saint-N | of the having a girlfriend yes, but thats only because my wife wont let me ;) |
| 15:30.28 | steev64 | what she doesn't know..... |
| 15:30.29 | Grum | oh yes blame the wife |
| 15:30.39 | Saint-N | hey i ask constantly! |
| 15:30.55 | Saint-N | what she doesnt know will get me killed when she eventually does find out ;) |
| 15:31.03 | jme | vithos: second run of SH ever and both the desolation and beast lord gloves dropped for me last night |
| 15:31.26 | Saint-N | jme: why not just get a warpig |
| 15:31.28 | steev64 | i still haven't finished SH on my rogue |
| 15:31.33 | vithos | beast lord gloves were an item that refused to drop for me |
| 15:31.33 | Saint-N | then you dont need a tank heh |
| 15:31.39 | Trancer | Grum: anyway if you need tips/stuff from our kill, poke me on CNQ |
| 15:31.47 | jme | Saint-N: heh |
| 15:31.52 | vithos | in fact, i never got my 2set bonus from beast lord |
| 15:31.54 | Saint-N | i love the warpiggies |
| 15:32.00 | Grum | how far are you btw Trancer? |
| 15:32.04 | jme | vithos: well.. i ran SL until i was 700 rep from revered with LC before the spear dropped for me |
| 15:32.10 | Saint-N | the hunters that own them suck, but the pigs are cool ;) |
| 15:32.13 | Grum | and you are with Liandra still? :) |
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| 15:32.20 | Trancer | Grum: hydross toast and voidreaver as well, working on the murloc but... summer break atm |
| 15:32.22 | Grum | Serenity wasn't it .. orso O.o |
| 15:32.26 | Trancer | Grum: yeps, Serenity |
| 15:32.32 | jme | vithos: and it's the only auch instance i've been running, just for the spear |
| 15:32.37 | Trancer | Grum: fifth of the server now, roughly |
| 15:32.44 | Grum | we're the same atm |
| 15:32.55 | Grum | eventhough 3-5 are somewhat at the same spot |
| 15:33.01 | Grum | and we're kinda suffering from people taking breaks too O.o |
| 15:33.03 | Trancer | same for us.. 3-7 |
| 15:33.07 | jme | someone complained about the hourglass not dropping for them for over 80 runs of BM... i got it my second run |
| 15:33.12 | vithos | jme: i didn't get the spear until a while of being exaulted |
| 15:33.14 | Grum | stupid people .. raid 7 days a week dedicated .. slackers! |
| 15:33.18 | jme | vithos: :( |
| 15:33.22 | Saint-N | heh same with the greatstaff |
| 15:33.27 | Saint-N | i got it my first bm run |
| 15:33.29 | Trancer | serenity was modelled to be NOT MM ;-) i.e. a raiding guild taking RL into account |
| 15:33.31 | jme | vithos: i was about to give up and just wait for Legacy |
| 15:33.42 | Grum | well still doing nice if you have nailed hydross |
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| 15:33.54 | Trancer | went quite well, one day of tries or so |
| 15:33.54 | ccKep | [17:33:07] <jme> someone complained about the hourglass not dropping for them for over 80 runs of BM... i got it my second run <<< nearly same story here ;) |
| 15:33.56 | Grum | oh well we did a 31% try but our nature tank got RL issues O.o |
| 15:34.10 | Grum | yeah we did ~4 hrs on him till now |
| 15:34.13 | ccKep | ran BM, hourglass dropped, paladin got it... ran again after that, dropped again, got it =) |
| 15:34.38 | Grum | so we're again getting all the resist gear and getting another 50/50 tank O.o |
| 15:34.38 | jme | ccKep: yeah, i ran BM, hourglass dropped, i passed.. even when nobody else needed. second run, it dropped again, i rolled with a druid and won it |
| 15:35.03 | Matrix110 | Its good to have a guild bank and being able to just throw out 3k gold to buy the resist gear:P |
| 15:35.07 | ccKep | love that trinket |
| 15:35.11 | Trancer | Grum: heh |
| 15:35.20 | Grum | if it only were 3k gold hehe |
| 15:35.25 | Trancer | Grum: we just geared 4 tanks in full FrR and NR luckily |
| 15:35.44 | jme | Trancer: take a huntard along for 70 more NR :) |
| 15:35.51 | Grum | Trancer: so you have 4 tanks with 350NR / 350 FrR? |
| 15:35.57 | Trancer | jme: oh we do, and shamadins and palydans |
| 15:35.58 | Matrix110 | Who needs that much Oo |
| 15:36.04 | Matrix110 | 240 unbuffed is enough |
| 15:36.05 | Grum | shammies? O.o |
| 15:36.17 | steev64 | we has totems that give shitty resist |
| 15:36.18 | Trancer | Grum: well 250 or so? the epics gear.. x 2 x 4 |
| 15:36.45 | Grum | 240? ..+70 of aura + 33 of gotw .. |
| 15:36.53 | Grum | seems to be missing 12 then :) |
| 15:36.56 | Trancer | rather save the hunter aspect, put totem boy with NR tank and have the hunter in the rogue / caster group with FI :P |
| 15:37.13 | Matrix110 | 3x Wildguard +20NR Head Enchant and EPIC JC Ring and the same for FrR is enough |
| 15:37.28 | Trancer | we also made the blue FrR/NR neck |
| 15:37.30 | Grum | 60+50+50+20+30 orso |
| 15:37.47 | Grum | gearing up a druid sucks however :D |
| 15:37.55 | Trancer | heh |
| 15:37.58 | Trancer | Go to aH |
| 15:38.01 | Trancer | "of nature protection" |
| 15:38.04 | Trancer | *buyot* |
| 15:38.06 | Trancer | +u |
| 15:38.07 | Trancer | done ;-) |
| 15:38.09 | Matrix110 | 2 of our MTs had pre TBC resistance gear like rings/necks they could use aswell |
| 15:38.14 | Margus | you mean hydross don't you? |
| 15:38.17 | jme | Trancer: ferocious inspiration? |
| 15:38.18 | Grum | yeah ofc |
| 15:38.21 | Trancer | Matrix110: omg, Sapphiron cheat! |
| 15:38.22 | Trancer | jme: yes |
| 15:38.29 | Grum | humz gotto go - train to catch :P |
| 15:38.30 | Margus | I tank the adds with 150/150 unbuffed resistance |
| 15:38.36 | Margus | 'nuff :D |
| 15:38.45 | jme | Trancer: good idea |
| 15:38.46 | Trancer | Margus: not like they live long anyway |
| 15:38.53 | Margus | Aye |
| 15:38.58 | Margus | I normally get 2-3 hits |
| 15:39.09 | Trancer | it's a pitty the warlocks 'unbanish' trick no longer works |
| 15:39.11 | Trancer | that was pretty ace :-) |
| 15:39.19 | Matrix110 | which trick? |
| 15:39.24 | sag_ich_nicht | I duell mages, shadowpriests and WLs in resistance gear. |
| 15:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | they cry. |
| 15:39.26 | sag_ich_nicht | a lot. |
| 15:39.27 | Margus | If a paladin is up I don't get hit anyway |
| 15:39.33 | Trancer | you were able to unbanish an elemental from 2.1 to 2.1.1 |
| 15:39.38 | Margus | Yeag |
| 15:39.40 | Margus | Yeah |
| 15:39.42 | Trancer | by recasting banish on it :p |
| 15:39.49 | Matrix110 | ic |
| 15:39.55 | Trancer | made hydross funny |
| 15:39.58 | Matrix110 | we just let Warlocks use lowest rank Banish |
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| 15:40.01 | Trancer | just banish all adds and let them go out one by one, hehe |
| 15:40.27 | Trancer | we don't, we just AoE the whole lot |
| 15:40.41 | Margus | wtf |
| 15:40.43 | Matrix110 | But Hydross is a bitch of a boss i hate him |
| 15:40.44 | harldephin | how may i contact neuron (author of nQuestLog) ? |
| 15:40.46 | Trancer | need two tanks for it though |
| 15:40.54 | Margus | got enough mana for doing this? |
| 15:41.00 | Trancer | Margus: sure |
| 15:41.06 | Matrix110 | After Vashj hes the most annoying boss so far |
| 15:41.08 | Trancer | Margus: 3 warlocks + 1 firemage is all you need |
| 15:41.13 | Trancer | SoC is terribly efficient |
| 15:41.18 | Margus | aye |
| 15:41.24 | Trancer | we gather the adds around Hydross |
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| 15:41.33 | Trancer | rogues are perm on hydross, shadowpriests too |
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| 15:41.39 | Trancer | all you need is 3 locks spamming SoC on hydross |
| 15:41.41 | Trancer | gone adds |
| 15:42.03 | Trancer | if mages are nice they add a breath/blastwave |
| 15:42.47 | Trancer | adds die fast, which frees up a lot of dps time for hydross |
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| 15:43.15 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone have a big bookworm SavedVars file for me? :O |
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| 15:44.08 | [Ammo] | ~seen Mikk |
| 15:44.33 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 21m 59s ago, saying: 'well, our tanks go dps gear on aran'. |
| 15:44.35 | Margus | [Ammo]: wtb border for buffs bars @ Quartz ^^ |
| 15:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ~seen Antiarc |
| 15:44.52 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (14h 2s) #wowace (14h 2s). Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 11h 37m 2s, last said: 'Unless you're a pet class'. |
| 15:44.55 | [Ammo] | complain at the author margus |
| 15:45.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc it's time for you to wake up |
| 15:45.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ~seen Antiarc|work |
| 15:45.22 | purl | antiarc|work is currently on #wowi-lounge (16h 49m 28s) #wowace (16h 49m 28s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 24m 20s, last said: 'Then just 1-2 steps back in. Very little DPS lost.'. |
| 15:45.27 | Margus | oh sorry, just saw your nick standing there ^^ |
| 15:45.59 | sag_ich_nicht | okay so he's not sleeping then |
| 15:46.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 15:47.48 | steev64 | anyone have the URL for the latest patch? |
| 15:47.52 | steev64 | s/the/a |
| 15:47.58 | sag_ich_nicht | patch 2.1.3 coming in europe tomorrow i see |
| 15:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't bother with the patchnotes |
| 15:48.08 | sag_ich_nicht | anything important? |
| 15:48.13 | steev64 | not particularly |
| 15:48.25 | steev64 | they fixed a few things |
| 15:48.31 | Margus | Ingame mail marked as read now stays for 30 days! |
| 15:48.42 | steev64 | woowoo! |
| 15:48.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Margus about DAMN time. |
| 15:48.48 | jme | ... |
| 15:48.49 | Margus | eh, enUS version you need? |
| 15:48.52 | jme | fix more important things imo |
| 15:48.56 | jme | like, bugged mobs |
| 15:49.07 | Margus | SC2 Quote: HELL IT'S ABOUT TIME |
| 15:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | jme that requires a content patch. |
| 15:49.12 | cryogen | sooooooooooo many bugged mobs |
| 15:49.19 | cryogen | it gets better every patch tho |
| 15:49.19 | Margus | http://rapidshare.com/files/42096270/WoW-2.1.2.6803-to-2.1.3.6898-enUS-patch.exe |
| 15:49.22 | jme | sag_ich_nicht: :( |
| 15:49.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Margus: no that's for when they fix retribution. |
| 15:49.27 | jme | cryogen: uh, it got worse last patch |
| 15:49.28 | steev64 | Margus: thanks |
| 15:49.28 | cryogen | at least there's no more bouncing beasts tho |
| 15:49.33 | Margus | steev64: np |
| 15:49.36 | jme | oh |
| 15:49.38 | cryogen | and fel reavers path properly now |
| 15:49.52 | cryogen | but still lots of mobs you cant attack |
| 15:49.54 | cryogen | which is more annoying |
| 15:49.57 | Margus | sag_ich_nicht: when retribution wants to do dps they need to do a dual-whield paladin |
| 15:50.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Margus no they don't |
| 15:50.19 | sag_ich_nicht | you completely miss the point of a retribution paladin |
| 15:50.21 | sag_ich_nicht | please go away. |
| 15:50.32 | Margus | ^^ |
| 15:50.41 | cryogen | what is the point of a retribution paladin? |
| 15:50.53 | kebinusan | there isnt one |
| 15:51.08 | Margus | atm it's standing around, pull aggro through dmg spikes and die or bubble/hearthstone |
| 15:51.16 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285169644&sid=1 DIAF nubs |
| 15:51.29 | steev64 | oy |
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| 15:51.34 | steev64 | it rolled me back to 2.0 |
| 15:51.44 | steev64 | or something |
| 15:51.57 | steev64 | its currently downloading WoW-2.1.0-enUS-patch.exe *sigh* |
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| 15:52.20 | kebinusan | theorycraft is great and all that, but ret paladins are not really what I would consider raid viable |
| 15:52.29 | Margus | O.o |
| 15:52.40 | Saint-N | okay there's something wrong with me |
| 15:52.57 | kebinusan | with the length of the cooldown on crusader strike and the miss rate on bosses the argument of refreshing judgements fall flat especially on mobility fights. |
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| 15:53.03 | Margus | they don't make up the gap it gives when you replace a full dps class with a retribution pal |
| 15:53.07 | Saint-N | i get spam mail from petdirect that has a subjkect that reads "The bases are Loaded for Savings this week" |
| 15:53.15 | jme | kebinusan: we have this ret paladin that recently gquit |
| 15:53.23 | Saint-N | and what i read as i glanced was "All your Base are loaded" |
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| 15:53.28 | jme | kebinusan: he was really annoying and only talked about theorycraft on TS the whole time |
| 15:53.49 | jme | kebinusan: he was convinced that ret paladins were awesome, and refused to be told otherwise :/ |
| 15:53.54 | kebinusan | heh |
| 15:53.56 | harldephin | why does a relog not reload the .toc files ? |
| 15:54.14 | Thorgard | jme, that was me you ass. Ret paladins ROCK! RAAAARGH! PALLY SMASH! |
| 15:54.20 | jme | Thorgard: haha |
| 15:54.23 | kebinusan | Them and moonkin are probably the two classes right now I just dont see as raid vaible dps classes |
| 15:54.57 | jme | Thorgard: i thought he was a cool guy in general i just didn't care to listen to all the theorycraft :) |
| 15:55.42 | Saint-N | ret pallys are awesome |
| 15:55.44 | Kuja^ | http://ace.pastey.net/70598 <- err, wtf? Oo |
| 15:55.54 | Saint-N | didnt you guys read that write up about the dueling for cash? |
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| 15:57.38 | cryogen | i wouldnt turn down a ret paladin just because they're a ret paladin |
| 15:57.51 | cryogen | but i would hardly encourage my whole guild to spec ret, nor invite more than 1 max 2 |
| 15:58.07 | ccKep | [17:51:16] <sag_ich_nicht> http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285169644&sid=1 DIAF nubs <<< just took a short look at it.. doesn't seem tooo accurate or am I wrong? |
| 15:58.19 | ccKep | (just read the example) |
| 15:58.45 | cryogen | i dont care too much about the most efficient possible pew pew, having fun is far more important :) |
| 15:58.58 | Margus | I'd like to see the raid dps if you swap a ret paladin for a 1000dps rogue |
| 15:59.00 | cryogen | been down the hardcore route, it aint pretty |
| 15:59.32 | snirks | gj on wau |
| 15:59.33 | Margus | 3% more crit and 2% more damage, dunno if the make up the loss |
| 15:59.35 | snirks | keeps getting better |
| 15:59.37 | ccKep | well, ret paladins have _atleast one_ advantage: holding JoL & JoW up with crusader strike :) |
| 15:59.43 | cryogen | ye |
| 15:59.49 | kebinusan | cryogen, well I dont think wiping do to mediocre dps is fun |
| 15:59.53 | kebinusan | *due |
| 15:59.54 | cryogen | that alone is pretty nice |
| 16:00.04 | snirks | can cause laxating effects |
| 16:00.08 | Margus | hmm |
| 16:00.10 | Coruss | what I would love to see, is having the ret pally do say 500 dps compared to the 1000dps rogue, but make the dps warrior do an extra 100, and the other rogue an extra 200, and the whole raid have more dps because the ret pally is there |
| 16:00.11 | snirks | at least i wont catch a cold |
| 16:00.16 | kebinusan | cckep except that they dont, because with a 10 second cooldown and the miss rate on bosses |
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| 16:00.29 | kebinusan | and having to move on many encounters alot of times it doesnt keep judgements up |
| 16:00.38 | Margus | 3% crit and 2% overall increase won't make 100dps more on a warrior ^^ |
| 16:01.23 | Coruss | see, and that's where the flaw is |
| 16:01.35 | ccKep | getting 5%-8% hit isn't hard afaik? |
| 16:01.40 | cryogen | i dunno, people raved at the druid buff |
| 16:01.42 | ccKep | so it works most of the time |
| 16:01.51 | cryogen | when someon ementions it re paladins its LOLWHATTHREEPERCENT?! |
| 16:01.57 | Coruss | what they really need to do, is make sanctified crusader give a bonus to *the rest of the party/raid* based on the pallies AP |
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| 16:02.17 | Coruss | so that it scales with gear |
| 16:03.01 | Coruss | and the whole crusader strike cooldown nonsense |
| 16:03.08 | Coruss | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.30 | Margus | hmm |
| 16:03.43 | Margus | how much overall dps increase do you think are 3% more crit? |
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| 16:03.59 | Matrix110 | rougly 4-6% |
| 16:03.59 | Coruss | 3% more crit is useless, it needs to be a flat AP increase |
| 16:04.13 | Margus | Yeah I'm just looking at some WWS's |
| 16:04.27 | ccKep | how can 3% more crit be 4%-6% dps-increase (math-wise) Matrix110? |
| 16:04.30 | kebinusan | Eh, Id rather give another rogue windfury |
| 16:04.49 | kebinusan | And I certainly would never give a ret paladin a shadow priest |
| 16:04.50 | ccKep | (+3% crit damage, or chance?) |
| 16:04.51 | Matrix110 | Crits do more damage than a normal hit? |
| 16:04.56 | Matrix110 | chance |
| 16:04.59 | ccKep | ah sry |
| 16:06.05 | Margus | hmm |
| 16:06.07 | Coruss | for PvE, the 3% crit is a shoddy idea at best, you don't want spiky crit based damage in PvE, you want a nice smooth increase |
| 16:06.20 | Margus | I could out-dps a 1000dps rogue |
| 16:06.23 | Margus | *it |
| 16:06.40 | Coruss | if they made it 3% to hit with spells and melee, it'd be alot more desired |
| 16:06.55 | Matrix110 | 3% to hit with spells nobody needs that |
| 16:06.58 | kebinusan | You already have too much to stuff into melee groups as it is |
| 16:07.08 | Matrix110 | Bosses resists 1-2% |
| 16:07.12 | kebinusan | between a shaman, feral druid, warrior and 2 rogues, there isnt much more room to maximize dps |
| 16:07.27 | Tovort | I think warriors and rogues get far more damage profit of a feral druid - especially the healing part of ilotp cannot be underestimated |
| 16:08.00 | Margus | hmm |
| 16:08.01 | Tovort | Coruss: oomkins give +hit |
| 16:08.02 | Coruss | that's where judgement of light is supposed to compare |
| 16:08.04 | ccKep | Matrix110: mages could drop spell hit rating and pick up crit / damage :D |
| 16:08.24 | Matrix110 | I just want more oomkinds in my party |
| 16:08.40 | ccKep | draenei elemental shaman ftw |
| 16:08.41 | kebinusan | waste of raid slots |
| 16:08.44 | ccKep | +4% hit, +3% crit |
| 16:08.50 | Matrix110 | Ele Shaman+oomkin Druid+Beastmaster hunter is so insane dmg^^ |
| 16:08.50 | ccKep | +101 spelldamage |
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| 16:09.01 | Matrix110 | (for the 2 mages in the party) |
| 16:09.06 | Margus | The pal need to do about 400 to 500 dps to make up the loss of a rogue |
| 16:09.10 | Coruss | Tovort: good point, thanks |
| 16:09.18 | Tovort | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.25 | Margus | Yeah |
| 16:09.36 | Margus | but many TBC encounters are melee fuckers |
| 16:09.36 | Coruss | not without stopping healing, which is what they should be doing |
| 16:09.47 | Margus | so you don't want to stay in cleaves/fears/stomps |
| 16:09.49 | Margus | whatever |
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| 16:10.21 | Tovort | (though: i play horde nowadays, and haven't seen many decent playing BE paladin yet, they are all still learning their full potential) |
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| 16:10.44 | MegaIRC | anyone here familiar with MrPlow? |
| 16:10.49 | xyu | i fit in that catagory |
| 16:10.51 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:10.52 | xyu | BE for the win |
| 16:10.56 | kebinusan | and lets also not forget the fact that paladins have no active threat reduce like vanish/fd/invis/soulshatter and are stuffed in melee range so even if you can do damage you're far more limited by threat than other dps classes |
| 16:10.59 | xyu | i don't think pally is too difficutl to master though |
| 16:11.00 | steev64 | be paladin = emo |
| 16:11.10 | Tovort | Margus: a single JoL + Judgement from 10? feet every 20 sec, easy to do even for a healer |
| 16:11.43 | Margus | Yeah but you lose time when you got to run from 30/40yds to 10 and back |
| 16:11.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:00] <kebinusan> cckep except that they dont, because with a 10 second cooldown and the miss rate on bosses <--i have 99.99% hit on a lvl 73 boss |
| 16:11.54 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2ret |
| 16:12.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:00] <Margus> 3% crit and 2% overall increase won't make 100dps more on a warrior ^^ <--the 3% crit is for the whole raid. the 2% is for one party. |
| 16:12.23 | Margus | Yeah I saw ^^ |
| 16:13.07 | Coruss | kebinusan: it's not so much the lack of an active threat reduction, as the innate threat ratios, warriors/pallies, 1.0, rogues 0.7, etc |
| 16:13.15 | Tovort | Margus: i do that eg on Prince, very easy to do, and doesn't cost much time |
| 16:13.21 | Coruss | which can't be changed, since it'd break pala tanks |
| 16:13.24 | Margus | 3% crit is quite nice but the 2% damage sucks so I wouldn't have a pal in my group |
| 16:13.41 | Margus | Tovort: can you come on our server and tell our pals how to do that? :D |
| 16:13.44 | durcyn | i'd rather have a shaman |
| 16:13.49 | durcyn | woa / wf > ret |
| 16:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:10] <kebinusan> and lets also not forget the fact that paladins have no active threat reduce like vanish/fd/invis/soulshatter and are stuffed in melee range so even if you can do damage you're far more limited by threat than other dps classes <--i consider DS a very active threat reduction. |
| 16:13.52 | Margus | durcyn: defiently |
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| 16:13.58 | Margus | WF all the way |
| 16:13.58 | Tovort | Margus: hehe first I have to train my guildmates |
| 16:14.01 | kebinusan | ds is not a threat reducer |
| 16:14.05 | Nosrac | Hey Everybody |
| 16:14.29 | sag_ich_nicht | kebinusan it is, for a ret paladin. it's a temp threat reset, and in that time the tank builds a ton more damage |
| 16:14.45 | sag_ich_nicht | you should never need it to prevent damage on you except for very specific situations |
| 16:14.47 | Margus | DS is like Boss turns around, pal pulls up his bubble, boss cleaves, melee dies, bubble goes off, pal dies |
| 16:15.17 | kebinusan | pretty much |
| 16:15.20 | xyu | hearth out |
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| 16:15.22 | sag_ich_nicht | you pop the bubble BEFORE you pull aggro, fool. |
| 16:15.23 | cryogen | Margus: you could say that about vanish. |
| 16:15.24 | Margus | ^^ |
| 16:15.31 | sag_ich_nicht | threatmeter ftw |
| 16:15.33 | Tovort | 10sag_ich_nicht01: well in a 25 people raid that close range pally would have BoS anyway |
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| 16:15.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yes Tovort? |
| 16:15.49 | Margus | why should you use the bubble before aggro gain? |
| 16:15.51 | cryogen | twisting it doesnt help your argument :p |
| 16:15.53 | Margus | just hit ESC |
| 16:16.06 | cryogen | because you can still hit in the bubble |
| 16:16.08 | cryogen | duh |
| 16:16.12 | Tovort | besides, I the tank can't hold aggro against a pally, fire him. |
| 16:16.15 | sag_ich_nicht | because it still temp resets the threat, allowing you to continue hitting |
| 16:16.18 | Margus | oh and don't rely too much on threat meters |
| 16:16.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Tovort |
| 16:16.29 | kebinusan | You're sort of missing the point |
| 16:16.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ret paladins have the second highest tps after a paladin tank |
| 16:16.40 | sag_ich_nicht | if you don't believe me, go do the calcs yourself |
| 16:16.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not going to do them again :P |
| 16:16.46 | Margus | I still remember our godlike wipe on Ebonroc where our pal said 5% left on KTM |
| 16:17.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:16] <Margus> I still remember our godlike wipe on Ebonroc where our pal said 5% left on KTM <--rofl KTM |
| 16:17.09 | xyu | KTM :( |
| 16:17.15 | Tovort | I find it hard to believe that a decent pally could compete against eg a enhancement shamy threadwise |
| 16:17.24 | sag_ich_nicht | easily. |
| 16:17.40 | Tovort | hm got to test that :D |
| 16:17.48 | xyu | gogo private server! |
| 16:17.54 | sag_ich_nicht | xyu DIE. |
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| 16:18.12 | JimV | morning all! |
| 16:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 16:18.18 | xyu | Servers down here, need to see some testing ;D |
| 16:18.18 | Margus | ret's do too spiky dps |
| 16:18.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you can even do something really mean |
| 16:18.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and dangerous |
| 16:18.29 | sag_ich_nicht | and cunning |
| 16:18.41 | Tovort | I personally never tried ret, neither alliance or horde, aside from holy spec I think protection is most fun |
| 16:18.48 | sag_ich_nicht | while the bubble is up, but you need a raid and a tank that don't freak about it |
| 16:18.56 | xyu | i love prot. 11-70 as prot |
| 16:19.00 | xyu | now i'm just a healing slut :( |
| 16:19.02 | kebinusan | and if you're bubbling you cant use wings for zomg dps and vise versa |
| 16:19.11 | Antiarc|Work | I also find it hard to believe that a ret paladin can out-DPS an enhance shammy |
| 16:19.16 | sag_ich_nicht | kebinusan 1 minute cooldown. |
| 16:19.18 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 16:19.19 | Antiarc|Work | Out-TPS |
| 16:19.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: go fix threat-1.0 |
| 16:19.29 | sag_ich_nicht | and go try it out |
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| 16:19.31 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 16:19.31 | Tovort | xyu: same as me, and all the other BE palys in my guild after they saw how well it plays out |
| 16:19.34 | Antiarc|Work | Because we have an enhance shammy who puts out absolutely insane threat |
| 16:19.54 | voglster | enhance shammys put out too much threat imo |
| 16:19.55 | Antiarc|Work | Our shammy has a threat dump |
| 16:19.58 | Antiarc|Work | Called Reincarnation |
| 16:20.00 | Margus | ^^ |
| 16:20.02 | Tovort | ^^ |
| 16:20.05 | voglster | Antiarc|Work lol |
| 16:20.06 | Tovort | Soulstone ftw |
| 16:20.07 | xyu | my server has some really decent pallies actually |
| 16:20.15 | xyu | none in my guild, but they exist |
| 16:20.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work... i will give cookies if you fix it D: |
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| 16:20.33 | Antiarc|Work | We have a Ret paladin with Stormherald and I've never seen him even get close to pulling aggro >_> |
| 16:20.34 | voglster | sag_ich_nicht whats wrong with threat? |
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| 16:20.46 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Get me a /dtevents stream on judgment and I'll see what I can do |
| 16:20.54 | Antiarc|Work | I spent all of last night playing AV on a character I've never played before |
| 16:21.08 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:20] <Antiarc|Work> We have a Ret paladin with Stormherald and I've never seen him even get close to pulling aggro >_> <--burn him in righteous fire. either that or he is really holding back |
| 16:21.14 | Antiarc|Work | Guildie and I were bored to hell of AV, so we traded accounts. She played my rogue and I played her druid. :D |
| 16:21.16 | Antiarc|Work | It was fun! |
| 16:21.20 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: *shrug* |
| 16:21.21 | xyu | i want to get a tanking set going. tired of healing. :D |
| 16:21.22 | Nosrac | haha |
| 16:21.24 | Antiarc|Work | We also have really badass tanks |
| 16:21.41 | voglster | xyu then roll a tank |
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| 16:21.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:20] <Antiarc|Work> sag_ich_nicht: Get me a /dtevents stream on judgment and I'll see what I can do <--now that AnduinLothar fixed fluidframes i should be able to do that :O |
| 16:21.53 | voglster | xyu pallies = healers |
| 16:21.57 | xyu | neva! my pally will do fine in 5 mans |
| 16:22.00 | sag_ich_nicht | voglster = idiot |
| 16:22.01 | xyu | i don't need to raid tank |
| 16:22.13 | xyu | i could tank kara i'm sure |
| 16:22.14 | Antiarc|Work | paladins are best served in a healer role in raids, I'm afraid. |
| 16:22.14 | voglster | sag_ich_nicht, lies! |
| 16:22.18 | Antiarc|Work | I tend to agree with that sentiment |
| 16:22.26 | xyu | oh me too |
| 16:22.40 | Tovort | I was quite surprised the other day how well a holy pally can tank in 5 mans - couldn't believe it until i tried it myself |
| 16:22.42 | voglster | xyu kara and probably gruul but then pally tanks fall of the map |
| 16:22.50 | Antiarc|Work | Paladins are kings of multi-mob tanking |
| 16:23.09 | Antiarc|Work | They tend to have too little stamina for tanking 25-mans, though, compared to druids/paladins |
| 16:23.15 | xyu | Gruul would seem hard, isn't he a big slow hitter? give me something w/ 8 arms w/ an axe in each :D |
| 16:23.28 | Tovort | 10Antiarc|Work01: full ack. Love tanking Shattered Halls or Shadowlab, the Nightmare of all good DDs with bad warrior tanks |
| 16:23.29 | Antiarc|Work | Err, druids/warriors |
| 16:23.30 | voglster | Antiarc|Work dont you mean druids/warriors? |
| 16:23.34 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 16:23.50 | Roartindon | Antiarc: We still use a holy paladin to tank the murlocs in Tidewalker :) |
| 16:23.58 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: That's multi-mob! :P |
| 16:24.00 | voglster | Tovort, come to my server im a good warrior tank ;-) |
| 16:24.04 | xyu | Harder to wipe crushing blows off the chart for a pally too |
| 16:24.08 | Antiarc|Work | Big, heavy, single-targets, not so much |
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| 16:24.26 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: Ah, I misunderstood the bracketing of your comment :P |
| 16:24.34 | Tovort | 10voglster01: we have a very very good warrior tank in our guild, but only 1 out of 9 lvl 70 warriors. |
| 16:24.38 | Antiarc|Work | Our druid passes 20k HP in bearform buffed up pretty easily. It's bordering on silly. |
| 16:24.49 | sbu | Roartindon: we use 3 warriors, much more efficent :p |
| 16:25.02 | jme | heh |
| 16:25.04 | sbu | thunderclap, demo shout, cleave and stuff :o |
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| 16:25.12 | jme | we have a really good warrior tank and an awesome pally tank |
| 16:25.16 | xyu | druids are so easy to gear for tanking |
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| 16:25.22 | sag_ich_nicht | goddamnit |
| 16:25.24 | Tovort | TF ftw |
| 16:25.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i forgot my video driver locked up yesterday |
| 16:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | brb reboot then you get your log Antiarc |
| 16:25.50 | abyssichate | dumb question: how do you export a layout in PitBull? The export button is greyed out |
| 16:26.39 | xyu | abyssichate: i think you have to create or name a profile first, can't use default. I am just guessing though ^^ |
| 16:26.50 | abyssichate | alright |
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| 16:27.53 | sbu | abyssichate: rightclick on $yourgroup -> other -> layout etc. |
| 16:28.34 | abyssichate | sbu: awesome, that worked |
| 16:28.45 | Fisker- | http://www.nightred.de/lol.wmv <-lol |
| 16:28.47 | jme | http://imgnation.net/images/fkft.jpg |
| 16:29.38 | Punkie` | how long has the public svn been down btw guys? |
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| 16:30.16 | jme | since you did that checkout of the whole trunk :( |
| 16:30.22 | Punkie` | dont tell everyone :( |
| 16:30.23 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now to get to that log :O |
| 16:30.24 | jme | (kidding) |
| 16:30.37 | Fisker- | i checkout the trunk each minute |
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| 16:30.56 | abyssichate | sbu: where does it get saved? |
| 16:30.59 | Chompers | Fisker-: MOAR |
| 16:31.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:30] <Fisker-> i checkout the trunk each minute <--this could be so missinterpreted if you were to take it out of context. |
| 16:31.03 | Chompers | every 5 seconds. |
| 16:31.11 | jme | sag_ich_nicht: i was wondering if it was meant to be |
| 16:31.17 | sbu | abyssichate: you should be able to export now |
| 16:31.20 | Punkie` | I just can't be arsed to move all my crap to dev.wowace though |
| 16:31.26 | abyssichate | oh, yeah, I got it now |
| 16:31.36 | Atheuz | Heya, I have a problem and I was wondering if I could get some help? :P |
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| 16:32.17 | steev64 | woohoo |
| 16:32.21 | steev64 | only 2 more patches to go |
| 16:32.44 | Fisker- | no u Chompers |
| 16:32.54 | xyu | You're better off just asking Atheuz :D |
| 16:33.26 | Chompers | :< |
| 16:33.31 | Chompers | i already am |
| 16:34.00 | Atheuz | Ok :p |
| 16:34.08 | Chompers | jme i love that picture |
| 16:34.34 | Chompers | it would simplify my warrior even more |
| 16:34.43 | Daemoen | - |
| 16:35.00 | Atheuz | Um, recently I updated my addons and I'm not sure if it's BigWigs causing this problem, but it sure seems like it. Anyway, whenever I'm in a raid or I enable my BigWigs addon my chat log becomes completely disabled and all the channels disappear. |
| 16:35.13 | Tovort | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/endgame.jpg < pre bc oc |
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| 16:35.14 | Atheuz | I can't see anything in say, guild, chat, 1. 2. or any of the other channels |
| 16:35.43 | Saint-N | whats the alt combo for the degree sign in temperature? |
| 16:35.54 | Atheuz | I use Prat as my chat addon, any idea on how to fix it? |
| 16:36.18 | xyu | Saint-N: 0176 |
| 16:36.18 | xyu | i think |
| 16:36.48 | Saint-N | thanks |
| 16:37.04 | Antiarc|Work | Atheuz: That's really bizarre. Have you tried a full mod suite update with WAU or whatever? |
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| 16:38.40 | Atheuz | Antiarc, I use WAU frequently to get my addons to the lastest revision and I'm pretty sure all of them are the latest one |
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| 16:39.24 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r43374 10beql/locales/localization-ko.lua: beql: - update koKR locals |
| 16:39.31 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFZA6gRK4qs |
| 16:40.51 | bindi | goddamned why is there still a bug when you relog or something and you log back in while in a raid your screen freezes |
| 16:41.11 | Saint-N | thats a bug with aguf and pally buffs |
| 16:41.19 | bindi | i have pitbull |
| 16:41.29 | Saint-N | and appearantly pitbull then ;P |
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| 16:41.47 | Saint-N | disable the uf's login re-enable and do a /rl |
| 16:41.49 | bindi | what do you mean? when you have blessings it fucks up? |
| 16:41.52 | Saint-N | youll be fine afterthat |
| 16:41.56 | Saint-N | yup |
| 16:42.06 | jme | any word on when wau2 will work on osx? |
| 16:42.11 | bindi | so click off blessings before you login would work? |
| 16:42.15 | Saint-N | not entirely sure why it does it, did it for my a couple of times with aguf |
| 16:42.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cair] by ChanServ |
| 16:42.43 | Saint-N | im not sure if its just on you or if its on any UF |
| 16:43.03 | bindi | thats why removing someone from the raid works i guess |
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| 16:43.08 | bindi | when he logs in |
| 16:43.13 | Saint-N | yup |
| 16:43.24 | Saint-N | its raidframe related |
| 16:43.33 | bindi | gah |
| 16:43.34 | bindi | that sux :< |
| 16:43.41 | jme | User Interface |
| 16:43.41 | Saint-N | use perfect raid |
| 16:43.44 | jme | - Fixed a crash triggered by many unit frame AddOns. |
| 16:43.44 | bindi | wtb fix :p |
| 16:43.49 | Saint-N | its better than pitbull raid frames anyways |
| 16:44.04 | bindi | using grid as raidframes atm |
| 16:44.10 | bindi | only pitbull as UF |
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| 16:44.27 | Saint-N | do you have the raid stuff disabled in the addon list before you realm enter? |
| 16:44.34 | Daemoen | hrm... |
| 16:44.38 | Saint-N | or just disabled in the ingame click thingy |
| 16:44.44 | Daemoen | anyone tried running the latest wow ace updater recently? |
| 16:44.52 | Daemoen | (1.9.24.429) |
| 16:44.53 | Thorgard | Daemoen, yup. |
| 16:44.54 | bindi | hmm don't think i did, lemme check Saint-N |
| 16:44.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cair] by ChanServ |
| 16:45.04 | Daemoen | its borked, lol |
| 16:45.18 | Saint-N | im not even 100% sure pitbull has the raid stuff as a module |
| 16:45.26 | flexom | latest wau runs fine here:) |
| 16:45.30 | Saint-N | but im guessing that it has to do with that an auras in some way |
| 16:45.41 | Atheuz | Nobody knows what could be causing BigWigs to disable my chat log functions? |
| 16:46.11 | bindi | nope, did a quick check and didn't see any module related to raidframes |
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| 16:46.21 | Saint-N | yeah then its just pitbull sucking ;P |
| 16:46.39 | Saint-N | in-game make sure that the raid portion is disabled yadda yadda yadda |
| 16:46.49 | steev64 | woot! |
| 16:46.50 | Saint-N | and then bitch at ckk ;) |
| 16:46.58 | steev64 | all patched up and actually its working properly again |
| 16:47.00 | steev64 | yay. |
| 16:47.13 | Daemoen | Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: Unable to connect to the remote server ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An invalid argument was supplied |
| 16:47.16 | steev64 | i click Quit and it actually closes the game down, I don't have to hit stop in cedega anymore |
| 16:47.27 | Saint-N | yay |
| 16:47.59 | steev64 | it also means patches apply, since the game exits properly |
| 16:48.17 | steev64 | i basically deleted random files and ran the repair tool until it rolled me back to 2.0 |
| 16:48.31 | bindi | myeh the only thing i had enabled where mt's and mt targets |
| 16:48.33 | bindi | disabled now |
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| 16:48.59 | Saint-N | and then we raped the horses and road off on the women! |
| 16:49.01 | Funkeh` | hi all |
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| 16:50.22 | steev64 | http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/AddOns.png - do i have too many addons? |
| 16:50.32 | Cryect | not really |
| 16:50.37 | sbu | nah |
| 16:50.43 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43375 10beql/ (8 files in 2 dirs): beql: - Readded FuBar options and moved the to a new category in the options table |
| 16:50.56 | Cryect | Should make it look bigger |
| 16:51.06 | Cryect | convert Pitbull to LOD |
| 16:51.08 | Tornhoof | steev64 go fix gentoo ;) |
| 16:51.18 | steev64 | Tornhoof: sorry, didn't know it was broken :) |
| 16:51.32 | Killmore7 | steev64: Enhtooltip, haha pwnt :P |
| 16:51.40 | steev64 | what? |
| 16:51.46 | steev64 | its part of auctioneer |
| 16:51.50 | Cryect | he likes his tooltip sucking up perforamnce |
| 16:51.55 | Killmore7 | yes I know :P |
| 16:52.06 | Killmore7 | I hate Enhtooltip :( |
| 16:52.17 | steev64 | rewrite it? :) |
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| 16:52.34 | Killmore7 | dont know how :( |
| 16:53.56 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43376 10Assessment/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:53.57 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 16:53.57 | CIA-22 | - Lots of little tweaking. Moved around gather filters. |
| 16:53.57 | CIA-22 | - Added bar normalize option to display sets |
| 16:53.57 | CIA-22 | - Updated some display sets to work better with translations |
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| 16:55.24 | steev64 | hrm |
| 16:55.31 | steev64 | i know something i'd like to see |
| 16:55.37 | steev64 | with PitBull and the threat |
| 16:55.57 | durcyn | steev64: so go write it |
| 16:56.18 | steev64 | i dunno how yet - or if its viable, was going to discuss and get thoughts on the uselessness of it first :) |
| 16:56.58 | steev64 | (or if PitBull already does it and im just an r-tard :)) |
| 16:57.09 | durcyn | wait, what? |
| 16:57.22 | steev64 | Omen shows an aggro-gain bar - and basically, when you hit that number you get the aggro |
| 16:57.48 | voglster | ok... |
| 16:57.55 | durcyn | pitbull has a threat module, not sure if there's a dogtag for aggro gain |
| 16:57.58 | steev64 | so i'd like the threat bar in pitbull to show like, 2 different colors - current threat, and how much threat to gain the aggro |
| 16:58.22 | voglster | steev64, for which target? |
| 16:58.56 | voglster | steev64, threat is multitarget so which one.. the one you are currently targetting? |
| 16:59.14 | steev64 | voglster: dunno? overall i guess - or whomever i have targeted is targeting |
| 16:59.22 | ravagernl | global? |
| 16:59.55 | steev64 | voglster: im a healer when i really care about threat |
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| 17:00.18 | steev64 | so i don't tend to have mobs targetted, i have group members |
| 17:00.24 | voglster | steev64, so target of target's threat |
| 17:00.29 | steev64 | yes |
| 17:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 17:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | someone help me |
| 17:00.48 | steev64 | clean inboxes suck |
| 17:00.52 | sag_ich_nicht | list all classes that have an interrupt |
| 17:01.01 | Tornhoof | every without shaman i think |
| 17:01.02 | voglster | rogue |
| 17:01.03 | steev64 | i've been ignoring over 1000 emails for almost a week now |
| 17:01.04 | Tornhoof | more or less |
| 17:01.05 | voglster | warrior |
| 17:01.07 | Antiarc|Work | rogue, shaman, warrior |
| 17:01.12 | voglster | pally (if you count stun) |
| 17:01.13 | Antiarc|Work | Mage |
| 17:01.19 | voglster | lock (pet) |
| 17:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | okay wait |
| 17:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme fix that |
| 17:01.23 | Antiarc|Work | If silence works, marks hunter and shadow priest |
| 17:01.29 | Fisker- | oh u Punkie` |
| 17:01.30 | sag_ich_nicht | list all classes that have an interrupt that works on aran and isn't counterspell. |
| 17:01.34 | Fisker- | who the hell are you? :o |
| 17:01.37 | Antiarc|Work | rogue, warrior, shaman |
| 17:01.40 | Tornhoof | shaman, rogue, warrior |
| 17:01.42 | steev64 | wait |
| 17:01.45 | voglster | rogue warrior shammy |
| 17:01.54 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit. |
| 17:01.55 | steev64 | rogues kick actually works on a boss in kara? |
| 17:02.00 | voglster | yup |
| 17:02.04 | hypetech | rogue kick works on a lot of bosses |
| 17:02.11 | hypetech | well |
| 17:02.12 | hypetech | a few |
| 17:02.23 | hypetech | need it for the HK fight in gruul's also |
| 17:02.23 | Nickenyfiken | Like all other interrupts... |
| 17:02.25 | steev64 | i can count on 1 hand the number in bc content |
| 17:02.28 | Antiarc|Work | Rogue kick works on Aran, because the fight's basically not doable without interrupts. :P |
| 17:02.43 | Fisker- | *rogue kicks on princess* |
| 17:02.45 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
| 17:02.50 | Antiarc|Work | *FEAR* |
| 17:02.51 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 17:02.58 | Daemoen | anyone else encounter any issues with the WAU ? |
| 17:03.02 | Antiarc|Work | Screw the bug trio >_< |
| 17:03.04 | Antiarc|Work | I hated that fight |
| 17:03.05 | voglster | fear works on aran! :-P |
| 17:03.12 | Antiarc|Work | I spent half of it running around feared. |
| 17:03.17 | voglster | fear him into his own blizzard! |
| 17:03.21 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 17:03.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't believe it |
| 17:03.24 | Fisker- | i liekd bug trio on nightmare mode |
| 17:03.31 | steev64 | Antiarc|Work: insignia/medallion doesn't work? |
| 17:03.33 | sylvanaar | Daemoen some people have corrupted winsock keys |
| 17:03.46 | Fisker- | you had like 15 seconds to kill kri when he was left |
| 17:03.59 | voglster | sag_ich_nicht, yes rogue kicks works on aran, warriors and shammys are all aran interupts |
| 17:04.07 | Antiarc|Work | steev64: Once per 5 minutes, sure. |
| 17:04.20 | Daemoen | sylvanaar: well, i know i dont fall into that boat :p |
| 17:04.26 | steev64 | Antiarc|Work: cos? |
| 17:04.32 | sylvanaar | Daemoen ya sure? |
| 17:04.35 | Antiarc|Work | CloS didn't exist back then |
| 17:04.38 | steev64 | ahh |
| 17:04.54 | Fisker- | Daemona if you use any kind of tunneling software it's very possible you got winsock corruption |
| 17:04.54 | Antiarc|Work | Yuaj has a 20-second AOE fear |
| 17:05.02 | Antiarc|Work | It sucks ass |
| 17:05.05 | sylvanaar | Daemoen pm me your exception stack |
| 17:05.53 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:05.59 | sylvanaar | key corrupt |
| 17:06.06 | Fisker- | anyone know something better in tunnelling software than proxycap or sockscap? |
| 17:06.07 | *** join/#wowace Daemoen (n=Daemoen@adsl-69-232-215-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 17:06.10 | Fisker- | he's flooded otu sylvanaar :P |
| 17:06.12 | Fisker- | out* |
| 17:06.17 | sylvanaar | key corrupt |
| 17:06.24 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: SSH? :P |
| 17:06.31 | Antiarc|Work | SSH tunnels are love |
| 17:06.32 | durcyn | i use Dante |
| 17:06.40 | durcyn | through ssh |
| 17:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:03] <voglster> sag_ich_nicht, yes rogue kicks works on aran, warriors and shammys are all aran interupts <--anyone have experience with schammys doing the interrupt? |
| 17:06.45 | Daemoen | then i shouldnt be able to renew an ip address |
| 17:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | melee range/AoE silence etc. |
| 17:07.05 | Tornhoof | heh durcyn,can't get much worse than that ;) |
| 17:07.16 | Fisker- | Antiarc|Work whatever as long as i can apply it systemwide and it actually works |
| 17:07.31 | Fisker- | for some reason http through proxycrap screws up if it's within a program |
| 17:07.39 | Antiarc|Work | SSH tunnels are a bit more complex to set up, but they work with everything. |
| 17:07.40 | sag_ich_nicht | -silence +counterspell |
| 17:07.47 | Kemayo | harldephin: Regarding contacting neuron, he's dropped off IRC of late. I recall someone saying that his computer ceased to exist. I've seen a few different people commit bug fixes since that time, though. |
| 17:07.48 | durcyn | Tornhoof: it actually works out well, point a web browser on work box to socks at home, browse happy. |
| 17:07.53 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Shammys are amazing interruptors on Aran |
| 17:07.57 | Antiarc|Work | Especially elemental ones |
| 17:08.00 | *** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Miranda_@p57A4D3B4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:08.03 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@66.89.174.138.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 17:08.05 | Antiarc|Work | 5 second interrupt? yezplz |
| 17:08.08 | Fisker- | he's online for me :o |
| 17:08.16 | Tornhoof | hehe durcyn |
| 17:08.21 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: bosses are immune to silence, it's the interrupt that matters |
| 17:08.35 | Kreiger_ | haha. shoulder orc nerf |
| 17:08.36 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: Where did I mention silence? o.0 |
| 17:08.36 | durcyn | you can't lock him out of a school or anything |
| 17:08.37 | Kreiger_ | ftw |
| 17:08.38 | *** join/#wowace Kinkx (i=bleh@120.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:08.45 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: oh, cooldown? nm. |
| 17:08.51 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, 5 sec cooldown on earthshock |
| 17:08.52 | Fisker- | he cba to join irc nomore :P |
| 17:09.04 | durcyn | fucking shamans. |
| 17:09.12 | Kemayo | harldephin: What did you want to contact him about? If it's some simple bugfix I'd be happy to check it in myself. |
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| 17:10.47 | Antiarc|Work | Was Slouken ever made aware of that secure code protection circumvention method? |
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| 17:10.55 | Antiarc|Work | (random train of thought switch) |
| 17:11.07 | durcyn | the nested macro hotbar thing? |
| 17:11.15 | Antiarc|Work | Nah, metatables on _G |
| 17:11.20 | Fisker- | but Antiarc|Work basically what i'm looking for is something that hooks into a socks server(PuTTY with socks server running) or just directly into ssh |
| 17:11.36 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:11.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 17:11.45 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r43377 10PlayerMenu/ (PlayerMenu.lua libs/): |
| 17:11.45 | CIA-22 | PlayerMenu: |
| 17:11.45 | CIA-22 | - add Babble-Spell-2.2 extenals to libs |
| 17:11.45 | CIA-22 | - use target instead of focus for default |
| 17:11.45 | CIA-22 | - improve macro usage |
| 17:12.01 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ping |
| 17:13.45 | harldephin | Kemayo: i only want to provide 2 (simple) files (constants.lua and Bindings.xml) to make nQuestLog have a key binding (which i mentioned sometime before, but since neuron wasn't here, i just manually added them to the .toc with every update myself. same result for me at least.) |
| 17:14.15 | Saint-N | suck it up harl ;) |
| 17:14.36 | Saint-N | i do that with questfu every update too forthe fixed HxW tooltip ;P |
| 17:14.46 | Kemayo | Saint-N: What fix is that? |
| 17:15.00 | Saint-N | umm detached.lua |
| 17:15.23 | Saint-N | ive got mine modded for the height and width i want the detached tooltip tobe |
| 17:15.41 | Saint-N | since there isnt a way to set it within questfu ;P |
| 17:15.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:07] <Antiarc|Work> sag_ich_nicht: Shammys are amazing interruptors on Aran <--isn't it a problem with the blizzard? |
| 17:16.00 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r43378 10Postal/Modules/ (OpenAll.lua Select.lua): Postal: - hide MiniMapMailFrame if no new mail, check every mail inbox update event. |
| 17:16.03 | Saint-N | im not complaining mind you since it accomplished what i wanted in the start |
| 17:16.19 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: You can't interrupt the blizzard, arcane explosion, or flame wreath |
| 17:16.23 | Antiarc|Work | You just avoid them |
| 17:16.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 17:16.34 | sag_ich_nicht | you missunderstood |
| 17:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | aran has a 10 yard counterspell aura |
| 17:16.39 | *** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@195.204.54.100) |
| 17:16.46 | Kemayo | Saint-N: Oh, right, I forgot that I hadn't shown the detached module much love. |
| 17:16.46 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 17:16.48 | Saint-N | speak of the debil |
| 17:16.56 | sag_ich_nicht | to interrupt, the shaman hast to be at 11 yard range |
| 17:17.01 | sag_ich_nicht | thus |
| 17:17.02 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard. |
| 17:17.09 | Antiarc|Work | Well, we usually have people collapse to the center on blizzard, and then move back to the edge of the room once they see where the blizzard is |
| 17:17.14 | Saint-N | kemayo: the funny thing is im willing to bet that no-one even knows its there |
| 17:17.22 | Antiarc|Work | And the rogues/wars can handle interrupts easily while the shaman is moving |
| 17:17.23 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43379 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 17:17.23 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:17.24 | CIA-22 | - Added some debug code for the normM nil error |
| 17:17.28 | Kaelten | pb_ee1: sup? |
| 17:17.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: the problem is with the lack of a rogue :P |
| 17:17.39 | harldephin | Saint-N: i've sucked up so many things, i don't even remember them all. not complaining either. only want to provide them in case someone else might actually care. |
| 17:17.42 | sag_ich_nicht | and only one warrior :P |
| 17:17.45 | sag_ich_nicht | and one caster slot open |
| 17:17.46 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 17:17.53 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: My account on wowace has completely disappeared (it seems) :p |
| 17:17.59 | Kaelten | the wiki? |
| 17:18.02 | pb_ee1 | I cannot login with my username/password |
| 17:18.03 | Saint-N | harldephin: heh well there's neuron there |
| 17:18.04 | pb_ee1 | wiki yes |
| 17:18.08 | Kaelten | recreate it :) |
| 17:18.13 | hypetech | pb_ee1: I think they lost the wiki database |
| 17:18.14 | Saint-N | harldephin: yer other option is just to provide the fix ;) |
| 17:18.19 | pb_ee1 | Same username? That's all |
| 17:18.20 | Kaelten | probably got lost in the chaos this last weekend |
| 17:18.21 | pb_ee1 | ?* |
| 17:18.22 | Kaelten | yep |
| 17:18.39 | _neuron_ | <-- just booted xchat after disapearing, not really up to date on any of my mods or wowace development atm Saint-N :p |
| 17:18.58 | Saint-N | harls got a couple of fixes for ya |
| 17:19.00 | harldephin | Saint-N: i don't know what a "fix" may be in such a situation. i don't have access to the svn or anything. |
| 17:19.04 | Saint-N | needs you to commit em |
| 17:19.06 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: that was so simple... thanks xD |
| 17:19.13 | Kaelten | :) |
| 17:19.17 | _neuron_ | got all my hardware friggin confiscated like 6 weeks ago, and they still have most of my shit (ie all logins with random passwords etc) |
| 17:19.40 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r43380 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Cartographer, CooldownCount, FuBar_BagFu: update zhCN localization |
| 17:19.46 | Saint-N | _neuron_: for what? |
| 17:19.55 | Saint-N | were you being a bad haxx0r? |
| 17:19.57 | *** join/#wowace RogueShadow_ (n=chatzill@adsl-69-208-86-161.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 17:20.04 | _neuron_ | Saint-N, for being in the same network as some fucking moron that did something bad (and was stupid enough to get caught for it) |
| 17:20.13 | Saint-N | nice |
| 17:20.59 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: ping ;p |
| 17:21.01 | _neuron_ | yeah the cops had a blast with my setup as well, I work with encryption, had everything locked down (ie aes256 on all hd's, ssl keys, random passwords), I've been down there 3-4 times helping them look at shit (and that's after giving em passwords) |
| 17:21.20 | Saint-N | bahahahahaha |
| 17:21.26 | Saint-N | thats kind of funny |
| 17:21.33 | Saint-N | part of me would have told them to sod off |
| 17:21.40 | _neuron_ | yeah :P |
| 17:21.41 | Saint-N | crack it if you want the info |
| 17:21.46 | _neuron_ | but fact is they are really cool ;) |
| 17:21.53 | _neuron_ | know em fairly well by now |
| 17:21.57 | Saint-N | hah |
| 17:21.59 | _neuron_ | heck I could probably get a job down there if I wanted to |
| 17:22.08 | Saint-N | thats a nice line of work ya know |
| 17:22.12 | Saint-N | the cybercrime division |
| 17:22.26 | Saint-N | specially about encryption and data recovery |
| 17:22.26 | _neuron_ | there was actually a roadside check when I was driving home the other day, and someone I know saw it was me and just waved me through |
| 17:22.40 | _neuron_ | yeah, I kinda like working with it as well |
| 17:22.48 | Saint-N | ask em |
| 17:22.51 | Margus | ckknight: still got that problem with my item tooltips :( |
| 17:22.53 | Saint-N | once you get all yer stuff back |
| 17:22.53 | jme | _neuron_: rot13 ftw! |
| 17:23.07 | kergoth | i should really be more cautious, actually not use the same password in most places and such :\ |
| 17:23.07 | Saint-N | you'll prolly ahve to do the 2 years as a cop thing |
| 17:23.10 | Kemayo | Saint-N: Wait, there's totally a way to set the minwidth and maxheight in QuestsFu_Detached. |
| 17:23.10 | _neuron_ | Saint-N, nha, got a different project in the works atm which is more important |
| 17:23.11 | Saint-N | but once thats done yer set |
| 17:23.13 | Kemayo | :P |
| 17:23.48 | Saint-N | lies! |
| 17:23.48 | _neuron_ | if that doesn't work out I'll look into it |
| 17:23.48 | _neuron_ | jme, ;) |
| 17:23.48 | Saint-N | whatcha working on? |
| 17:23.48 | _neuron_ | it is more important, someone's gotta cough up around 20 mil euro for us to pull that off though |
| 17:23.48 | _neuron_ | it's a medical clinic thing |
| 17:23.48 | Saint-N | ooo |
| 17:23.56 | kergoth | wonder what the best way to manage passwords is.. use ssh keys rather than pass for ssh, store keys and a encrypted store of passwords both on a usb key? |
| 17:23.57 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:24.17 | Saint-N | kergoth: yellow sticky notes with ip login and passwd |
| 17:24.25 | Saint-N | its far to obvious to be taken seriously |
| 17:24.27 | Gagorian- | _neuron_: I got all my stuff encrypted with AES256 as well. Did you have to give your passwords? |
| 17:24.28 | Kemayo | I like to refer to USB keys as "those things I keep losing", so... |
| 17:24.32 | hypetech | _neuron_: why did your shit get confiscated? |
| 17:24.47 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | if i have to create a series of menus>submenus to select gems, would "Quality > Colour > Gem" or "Colour > Quality > Gem" be better from a user point of view? |
| 17:24.47 | Saint-N | Kemayo: heh ive broken so many |
| 17:24.49 | _neuron_ | Gagorian-, I didn't have to, I went down there to help em out, cuz I know full well I dont have a problem with them seeing what's on it ;) |
| 17:24.57 | _neuron_ | hypetech, same network as someone that did something very illegal |
| 17:25.01 | Saint-N | running accidently drop it take a step, whimper |
| 17:25.15 | Kemayo | Hey, I keep a postit in my wallet with four numbers that look like PINs on it. :D |
| 17:25.19 | Gagorian- | _neuron_: I'd rather have fun waiting for them to open the encryption ;) |
| 17:25.23 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r43381 10EasyTrack/ (. EasyTrack.lua EasyTrack.toc EasyTrack.xml libs/): EasyTrack: Display tracking skills quick menu while clicking tracking icon, also included some spell by player class. |
| 17:25.25 | Saint-N | haha |
| 17:25.35 | Saint-N | abusing the 3 tries lockout card eat? |
| 17:25.40 | _neuron_ | Gagorian-, yeah it's great fun when they are sitting on 5-10k USD worth of hardware and can't give it back until it's scanned :P |
| 17:25.43 | Kemayo | Totally. |
| 17:25.50 | Saint-N | thats rpetty funny |
| 17:26.00 | kergoth | Saint-N: brilliant, postits are clearly the right option |
| 17:26.24 | _neuron_ | the people using my server thought it was great fun when a box that's been up 24/7 for the last 5-6 years goes missing for 6 weeks as well |
| 17:26.34 | Gagorian- | lol |
| 17:26.40 | _neuron_ | kinda had a reputation for keeping things up and running :p |
| 17:26.42 | hypetech | _neuron_: hehe |
| 17:27.13 | Saint-N | kergoth: i do it ;) |
| 17:27.13 | stavmar | what are people using now for armory page creation, like mmo-champion seems to not work as well... |
| 17:27.13 | Gagorian- | I'd rather lose some of my hardware than let them see my movie collection ;) |
| 17:27.13 | NeoTron | if there an addon that allows you to set up a raid group template and or save a snapshot and then press a button to "redo" it? |
| 17:27.31 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5485883B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:27.32 | _neuron_ | Gagorian-, where do you live? |
| 17:27.52 | Saint-N | then again back in my bad days we went to the ibm NA HQ and wandering around on thier patio and looking in windows low and behold yellow sticky notes with lips |
| 17:27.56 | *** join/#wowace sbu_ (n=sb@dslb-084-056-133-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:28.00 | Saint-N | ive never laughed so hard in my life |
| 17:28.09 | Gagorian- | _neuron_: Finland |
| 17:28.27 | _neuron_ | Gagorian-, wouldn't worry then, I live in norway, and here I can sit at a police house and discuss bittorrent with cops no problem ;) |
| 17:28.34 | Saint-N | ya know ahts kind of amusing gagorian? |
| 17:28.40 | Saint-N | i diodnt even think of piracy |
| 17:28.48 | Saint-N | i went immediately to beastiality and child porn |
| 17:28.50 | Antiarc|Work | Yay, protected code fix is in place for WoW 2.2 |
| 17:28.55 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com) |
| 17:28.56 | Saint-N | as why you'd be concerned |
| 17:29.01 | _neuron_ | heck we're the only country (afaik) that's had public debate on allowing "illegal" copying |
| 17:29.03 | Gagorian- | Saint-N: ROFL |
| 17:29.04 | Antiarc|Work | "Yep, it's already fixed in 2.2 and the fix doesn't affect the ability to set metatables on _G." |
| 17:29.23 | hypetech | _neuron_: any good apartments for rent out there? ^_^ |
| 17:29.24 | Gagorian- | There's sick people on the internet, no doubt, but not everyone is into that stuff! |
| 17:29.38 | _neuron_ | hypetech, pft, get a nice hut in the forest somewhere with a nice 100mbit :P |
| 17:29.50 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43382 10beql/ (beql.lua questlog.lua tracker.lua): beql: - Resized Tracker Minimize button and Config button relative to UIScale = 1 |
| 17:30.00 | Saint-N | Gagorian-: heh thts mostly because i dont view piracy as wrong ;P |
| 17:30.11 | *** part/#wowace Jaxon (n=Jackson@S01060017f2092837.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 17:30.35 | Gagorian- | It's not paying for stuff you wouldn't pay for in any other case :) |
| 17:30.39 | *** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=Jackson@S01060017f2092837.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 17:30.45 | Gagorian- | So, they lose no money |
| 17:30.47 | Saint-N | hehe priacy is like the library |
| 17:30.56 | Saint-N | you dont go to the library sign out books and sell them |
| 17:31.01 | _neuron_ | I VERY seriously doubt the .fi police would care though |
| 17:31.06 | Saint-N | and you dont pay to borrow books from the library |
| 17:31.25 | Saint-N | if you like it enough you eventually buy it |
| 17:31.32 | Saint-N | if you dont you return it ;P |
| 17:31.38 | _neuron_ | mhm :p |
| 17:31.53 | Saint-N | ive never made a cent off of anything i've borrowed ;P |
| 17:32.10 | Saint-N | and im actually quite put off by people that do |
| 17:32.14 | _neuron_ | me neither |
| 17:32.47 | Saint-N | i have no qualms about the people tha cam the movies selling it themselves |
| 17:32.48 | durcyn | entrenched industry always tries to squash out disruptive new technologies, and never succeeds. just sit back and watch the record label and film industry cartels slowly implode =) |
| 17:32.51 | Gagorian- | _neuron_: Well, there's a few new laws that's an annoyance. One torrent site has been taken down in a big raid, but nothing massive. |
| 17:32.56 | Saint-N | but to just download someones work and sell it just retarded |
| 17:33.22 | Saint-N | durcyn: hahah yeah did yous ee the latest thing they're trying to do to internet radios and such? |
| 17:33.26 | _neuron_ | Gagorian-, well, most sites that I know of like that that's gone dark is down because they are making money off it |
| 17:33.51 | durcyn | Saint-N: that's been going on for years. |
| 17:33.54 | Saint-N | threatening to charge on a per play basis for sat radio and inet radio |
| 17:34.20 | Saint-N | slowly losing grasp of the fact that if they do that then the radio stations just wont play them |
| 17:34.29 | Saint-N | and poof hours of free advertising gone |
| 17:34.45 | Saint-N | someone needs to remove the heads of the riaa and mpaa |
| 17:35.01 | Saint-N | they're obvious so clueless that its gonna drive them to extinction |
| 17:35.02 | _neuron_ | <-- glad I live in a free country tbh :P |
| 17:35.19 | *** join/#wowace ^nite^ (n=Neil@5ac58576.bb.sky.com) |
| 17:35.39 | hypetech | what style of government is norway? |
| 17:35.41 | Saint-N | my old country was kind of free |
| 17:35.50 | kenlyric | Saint-N: you know, they're worried about all that free music the regular radio stations have been getting. |
| 17:35.52 | Saint-N | and it definitely was less retarded ;P |
| 17:36.16 | Saint-N | kenlyric: yeah it makes no sense to even consider broachingthe subject |
| 17:36.22 | NeoTron | is there an addon that lets you target a specific raid icon (with the minimum requirement that someone in the raid is targeting the mob with that icon) |
| 17:36.24 | Saint-N | i dont understand them at all |
| 17:36.33 | kenlyric | they're dumb. |
| 17:36.38 | hypetech | NeoTron: /assist |
| 17:36.38 | Saint-N | NeoTron: /focus ;P |
| 17:36.45 | NeoTron | no and no |
| 17:36.50 | kenlyric | NeoTron: not based on the raid icon. |
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| 17:37.13 | NeoTron | when I asked for a way to target a mob based on raid icon I didn't want assist or focus targeting ;-) |
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| 17:37.24 | Saint-N | why? |
| 17:37.25 | NeoTron | if I wanted assist or focus targeting I'd use assist or focus targeting. really. :P |
| 17:37.30 | Saint-N | someones bound to be targeting them ;'P |
| 17:37.41 | kenlyric | if there were, we'd already have an addon for sheeping/shackling/etc that would do that. |
| 17:37.47 | NeoTron | so killing a multi-mob pull |
| 17:37.58 | NeoTron | "next target star" |
| 17:38.03 | NeoTron | <press star key> |
| 17:38.09 | kenlyric | what part of no is confusing? |
| 17:38.20 | kenlyric | no not can't won't |
| 17:38.21 | NeoTron | a unit frame can get the icon of a target |
| 17:38.32 | Saint-N | NeoTron: because you've pointed at it |
| 17:38.42 | harldephin | _neuron_: may i send you a .zip (392 bytes long) containing 2 files (constants.lua and Bindings.xml) to provide a simple optional key binding for nQuestLog ? |
| 17:38.48 | Saint-N | to make it auto it would have to cycle every UID and check |
| 17:39.04 | NeoTron | ok |
| 17:39.07 | Saint-N | which would be harder than just hitting tab 3 times |
| 17:39.17 | _neuron_ | harldephin, I'd love to commit it, but I dont have my main computer atm, so I dont have my logins. |
| 17:39.26 | _neuron_ | harldephin, try to catch another developer online and get them to commit it ;) |
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| 17:39.39 | ^nite^ | Rabbit |
| 17:39.41 | NeoTron | so what you're saying is, it can be done but no one has bothered ;-) |
| 17:39.43 | Saint-N | like say kemayo or kenlyric ;P |
| 17:39.57 | cryogen | brr, ace2 has gained 170K of memory since logging in |
| 17:39.58 | harldephin | _neuron_: ok. will try. thanks. |
| 17:40.02 | _neuron_ | gr8 :) |
| 17:40.03 | cryogen | i wish i could find out where that memory is going |
| 17:40.09 | sylvanaar | BabbleLib ffs |
| 17:40.25 | Saint-N | NeoTron: it "could be done" technically speaking but im fairly certain that the info isnt there for the grabbing until you're interactting with said target |
| 17:40.47 | NeoTron | ah but the premise was that someone was |
| 17:40.48 | Saint-N | as far as the user interfaction and API go i mean |
| 17:41.04 | Saint-N | yeah thazt would be another way too |
| 17:41.07 | NeoTron | forgot the age of ctra being required for raid info like HP data? |
| 17:41.16 | Saint-N | you could in a raid effectively check targets |
| 17:41.34 | Saint-N | and if one finds a marked that becomes the target |
| 17:41.49 | NeoTron | they should just add /target [icon=1] and stuff |
| 17:41.51 | Saint-N | actually in a raid you should be able to now that i think of it, course i dont know the api |
| 17:41.52 | cotangent___ | well on most pulls the target will already be targeted by someone on the MT list |
| 17:42.09 | Saint-N | basically add a raid interaction thingy that checks all targets for the icons |
| 17:42.17 | Saint-N | then creates a frame to mark them |
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| 17:42.34 | Saint-N | and click the frame to make it your target |
| 17:42.43 | Saint-N | course it would require everyone to use it |
| 17:42.49 | NeoTron | I swear I read about an addon that creates a frame of all mobs uniquely targeted by the raid |
| 17:43.17 | NeoTron | not specific to raid icons mind you, just in general |
| 17:43.25 | trh | NeoTron: there's no way a addon could differentiate between two mobs by name :/ |
| 17:43.41 | NeoTron | trh: level, gender, raid icon |
| 17:43.55 | hypetech | trh: so why isn't there a skull on both of the mobs unit frames if they are the same name? :p |
| 17:43.56 | trh | NeoTron: and how could someone target it? |
| 17:43.58 | NeoTron | not perfect but works for dotimer |
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| 17:44.57 | Saint-N | neo what you could do is a bit simpler |
| 17:45.05 | Saint-N | no wait nm |
| 17:45.34 | Saint-N | hehe set everyone as a main tank or main assist ;P |
| 17:45.35 | deltron | holy shit new bad religion album is awesome |
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| 17:45.47 | Saint-N | then you can see all thier targets ;P |
| 17:45.55 | Saint-N | the one that came out last year deltron? |
| 17:46.58 | NeoTron | might as well just scan everyone's raidXXtarget then |
| 17:47.58 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r43383 10SmartRes/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:47.58 | CIA-22 | SmartRes: initial commit |
| 17:47.58 | CIA-22 | One button resurrection addon |
| 17:48.01 | Chompers | Gagorian-: DrDamage is telling me to tell you 'Thrown was not found in table." |
| 17:48.02 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43384 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Add Quixote_Party_Quest_Complete event. |
| 17:49.06 | harldephin | ah |
| 17:49.30 | deltron | Saint-N: new one that just came out today |
| 17:49.46 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43385 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PartyNotify/PartyNotify.lua: |
| 17:49.46 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 17:49.46 | CIA-22 | - PartyNotify: Use Quixote_Party_Quest_Complete. (Won't degrade functionality when people use old versions of Quixote.) |
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| 17:52.55 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43386 10QuestsFu_Detached/ (Detached.lua QuestsFu_Detached.toc): |
| 17:52.55 | CIA-22 | QuestsFu_Detached: |
| 17:52.56 | CIA-22 | -Catch up to recent improvements from core. |
| 17:52.56 | CIA-22 | -Disabled by default. |
| 17:53.04 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:53.16 | xyu | hi |
| 17:53.31 | Chompers | hi ckknight |
| 17:53.34 | Kinkx | Hey ckknight :) |
| 17:53.35 | NeoTron | so ... the problem with adding a target by icon is that you can't do assist or targeting from a script rather than the ability to find the target with the specific icon yes? |
| 17:53.45 | Nickenyfiken | Hey ckknight |
| 17:53.56 | harldephin | Kemayo: since you're a developer too (flash news, really ;-p), if i sent you a .zip containing those 2 files (and the .toc) to provide a key binding for nQuestLog, would you be able and willing to add them ? |
| 17:53.58 | deltron | howdy ckknight |
| 17:54.14 | Kemayo | harldephin: Sure, why not. kemayo at gmail dot com. |
| 17:54.25 | harldephin | Kemayo: ok |
| 17:54.33 | Saint-N | was that kemayo@gmail.com ? |
| 17:54.36 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 17:54.40 | NeoTron | although that gives me an idea for an addon that could be useful. a grid for raidXXtarget that shows the icon of the unit they are currently targeting, and lets you click on it |
| 17:54.43 | Margus | ckknight: hey there |
| 17:54.43 | NeoTron | now THAT would work |
| 17:54.48 | harldephin | Saint-N: d'oh! |
| 17:54.55 | Saint-N | heh |
| 17:55.14 | deltron | Saint-N: http://www.myspace.com/badreligion <-- listen! |
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| 17:55.43 | NeoTron | even if you couldn't use it for clicking it'd be useful to see who is targting the wrong thing :P |
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| 17:56.28 | deltron | I like to spy on who has what targeted in 5-mans heh |
| 17:57.09 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43387 10/trunk/ (FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu_Detached/ QuestsFu_Detached/): |
| 17:57.09 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 17:57.09 | CIA-22 | -Move QuestsFu_Detached into core. |
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| 17:57.19 | NeoTron | now that's a reasonbly interesting addon idea |
| 17:57.20 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:57.37 | durcyn | NeoTron: erm, PerfectTargets? |
| 17:57.52 | durcyn | NeoTron: the thing is, you can't make those frames clickable after 2.0 |
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| 17:57.57 | NeoTron | so |
| 17:58.00 | Daemoen | sylvanaar: interesting. only time ive ever seen winsock errors is with ip addresses not renewing or setting. but sure enough, reinstalling winsock did correct it... |
| 17:58.02 | NeoTron | explain why not |
| 17:58.10 | durcyn | because they're dynamic. |
| 17:58.11 | NeoTron | I can click on the main tank target / targettarget frames |
| 17:58.18 | NeoTron | and they change targets mid-fight |
| 17:58.34 | Azurewrath | mhm.. does anyone know if recount syncs? (Yes, i know there is a Sync.lua in the Folder.. but is it used atm?) |
| 17:58.35 | durcyn | the player index doesn't |
| 17:58.41 | harldephin | Kemayo: i've sent you an email. |
| 17:58.45 | NeoTron | what I said was to have a grid of raidXXtarget |
| 17:58.53 | NeoTron | so each spot is always the same players target |
| 17:58.56 | NeoTron | it can't be unique |
| 17:58.58 | durcyn | you can have raidxxtarget, but you cannot move them around |
| 17:59.02 | NeoTron | right |
| 17:59.04 | NeoTron | that's what I said |
| 17:59.11 | durcyn | pitbull can already have 1-40 raidxxtargets |
| 17:59.12 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43388 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Detached/ FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFu_Detached/): |
| 17:59.12 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 17:59.12 | CIA-22 | -Detached: Rename the folder and add it to the toc. |
| 17:59.24 | sylvanaar | Daemoen apparently these async connections are very sensitive to corrupt registry keys |
| 17:59.24 | durcyn | but there's no way to collapse duplicates or anything fancy |
| 17:59.40 | durcyn | and still have them be targetable interactively |
| 17:59.45 | NeoTron | the idea behidn a grid-like model would be to make it really lean/simple |
| 17:59.48 | NeoTron | right |
| 17:59.52 | NeoTron | I understand |
| 18:00.01 | durcyn | check out Pitbull raidtargets though, it sonds like what you're talking about |
| 18:00.25 | Daemoen | sylvanaar: yeah... must be. There is a freeware tool out that fixes the winsock corruption with no effort. For others that have the issue, tell them to get winsockxpfix |
| 18:00.42 | NeoTron | I think I might, for fun and self education purposes, try to make something myself |
| 18:00.54 | CIA-22 | 03skyboat * r43389 10beql/beql.lua: beql: - Check if FrameResized modifies questlog, whether it's loaded or not. |
| 18:01.12 | sylvanaar | Daemoen cool, never knew about that |
| 18:01.25 | Daemoen | i had to find it. repairing winsock with wireless isnt so easy, lol |
| 18:01.48 | ckknight | does apple have many software patents? |
| 18:01.57 | Daemoen | ckknight: yes |
| 18:02.08 | ckknight | you know what I realized? |
| 18:02.12 | ckknight | Apple ships GCC |
| 18:02.17 | ckknight | GCC 4.3 is GPLv3 |
| 18:02.18 | Daemoen | lol |
| 18:02.20 | Daemoen | yeah.... |
| 18:02.27 | Daemoen | apple runs the BSD kernel remember Lop |
| 18:02.28 | Daemoen | :-D |
| 18:02.30 | Daemoen | lol |
| 18:02.40 | ckknight | as well as I'm sure other software |
| 18:02.45 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r43390 10nQuestLog/ (Bindings.xml constants.lua nQuestLog.toc): nQuestLog: Add harldephin's keybindings patch. |
| 18:02.51 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 18:03.12 | Kemayo | harldephin: Tada! |
| 18:03.19 | ckknight | frankly, I'd be happy if all the software patents become invalidated through this crazy scheme |
| 18:03.32 | Chompers | ckknight: have you had any time to think about my CowTip idea? |
| 18:03.38 | NeoTron | so for a clickable unit frame all you need is to make it inherit SecureUnitButtonTemplate? |
| 18:04.05 | sylvanaar | Daemoen source would be nice, guess i gotta disasm |
| 18:04.05 | Chompers | colouring the border various colours if the target's poisoned/cursed |
| 18:04.06 | ckknight | Chompers: sure haven't |
| 18:04.09 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 18:04.10 | Chompers | :< |
| 18:04.15 | Saint-N | what i dont quite understand about software patents is, isnt it technically just a copyright like on a book sicne without the hardware thats all it is? |
| 18:04.23 | ckknight | Chompers: it's a bit complex... |
| 18:04.29 | ckknight | Saint-N: no |
| 18:04.33 | ckknight | Saint-N: it's not |
| 18:04.36 | Chompers | yeah, i can imagine |
| 18:04.38 | Daemoen | ckknight: ill second you on that, software patents are ridiculous |
| 18:04.43 | Saint-N | ckknight: how so? |
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| 18:04.57 | ckknight | Saint-N: copyright is based on the code itself, like the words on a page in a book can be copyrighted |
| 18:04.59 | Saint-N | i can understand hardware patents since its physically a way of doing something |
| 18:05.06 | Saint-N | ckknight: nods |
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| 18:05.23 | ckknight | whereas patents would be more like monopolizing the murder mystery plot theme |
| 18:05.24 | Jaxon | Saint-N: the problem is that people are trying to patent the smallest of functions. |
| 18:05.31 | ckknight | because you wrote one murder mystery book |
| 18:05.35 | Saint-N | ckknight: exactly |
| 18:05.46 | Saint-N | thats why i have an issue with software patents ;P |
| 18:05.47 | *** join/#wowace Strigoi|LR (i=ilyad@81.94.26.140) |
| 18:05.58 | Saint-N | that whole 1click bullshit from a few years back |
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| 18:06.11 | Saint-N | i'd like to patent the letter E |
| 18:06.19 | Saint-N | and just sit back and watch the world crumble |
| 18:06.42 | Strigoi|LR | ocal |
| 18:06.44 | ckknight | I am a good work...guy |
| 18:06.45 | Saint-N | c3pt the int3rn3t of cours3 sinc3 w3 alr3ady us3 th3 numb3r thr33 |
| 18:06.51 | Daemoen | hrm, lots of error during updates with wau |
| 18:06.52 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 18:07.10 | Chompers | w cant typ without th ltter _ ! |
| 18:07.17 | Chompers | feck, i forgot one |
| 18:07.21 | ckknight | patents in general are good |
| 18:07.22 | Saint-N | heh |
| 18:07.31 | ckknight | better than the trade secret system we had before |
| 18:07.33 | Saint-N | patents for physical tangiable things are good |
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| 18:07.59 | Saint-N | or rather things taht result in tangiable goods |
| 18:08.19 | ckknight | patents for things that are not purely mathematical are good. |
| 18:08.23 | ckknight | because patenting math is absurd |
| 18:08.30 | ckknight | thus, patenting software is absurd |
| 18:08.31 | sylvanaar | looks like it was written in vb |
| 18:08.39 | harldephin | Kemayo: thanks. :) |
| 18:08.54 | Antiarc|Work | agreed, ckknight |
| 18:10.49 | PHL-Chuck | is parrot semi-useable now? wanted to try it |
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| 18:11.34 | Saint-N | give it a try and see ;) |
| 18:11.45 | jme | there is a guild on Korgath called Drop The TV Naga |
| 18:11.48 | PHL-Chuck | k |
| 18:11.48 | dylanm | PHL-Chuck: It displays your combat information... I would call it usable :) |
| 18:11.58 | durcyn | parrot is semi-useable, in that it doesn't explode, yes |
| 18:12.04 | PHL-Chuck | well I tried it before but it was kinda low and couldnt move it up |
| 18:12.10 | durcyn | something tells me it's not feature-complete though |
| 18:12.41 | sylvanaar | not vista compatible |
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| 18:13.31 | ravagernl | sylvanaar: Can I enable target speech in pitbull_prat? |
| 18:15.07 | PHL-Chuck | how could anyone improve on wow? |
| 18:15.12 | PHL-Chuck | jk.. |
| 18:15.29 | PHL-Chuck | played EQ for years then all the new ones until wow for about 1 month |
| 18:15.45 | jme | wow was my first mmo =/ |
| 18:16.00 | PHL-Chuck | SWG, horizons, eq2, anarchy online, DAOC.. lol |
| 18:16.02 | PHL-Chuck | prolly more |
| 18:16.16 | PHL-Chuck | wow playstyle is more what I wish EQ2 was |
| 18:17.25 | ckknight | durcyn: yea, it works, but it's alpha |
| 18:17.32 | Boubouille | stavmar : what doesn't work on mmo-champion ? :( |
| 18:18.12 | sylvanaar | ravagernl sure |
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| 18:18.51 | ravagernl | sylvanaar: how? the options on target are grayed out |
| 18:19.47 | sylvanaar | you have to remove the hidden=true from the sv defaults |
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| 18:23.38 | Antiarc|Work | So guys |
| 18:23.39 | sylvanaar | ill commit it up |
| 18:23.46 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r43391 10PitBull_Prat/Prat.lua: PitBull_Prat: all frames hidden=false |
| 18:23.47 | Antiarc|Work | I want to write an addon named Keylogger, but I don't know what it should do |
| 18:23.51 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe spit out a list of keys you have? |
| 18:23.59 | Saint-N | who is nothing more than wow without the ease of use object interaction |
| 18:24.00 | sylvanaar | into a log |
| 18:24.13 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, there we go |
| 18:24.15 | Peoii | Give me a listing of any keys I don't have bound, so I can log them for future use binding keys to bars. |
| 18:24.20 | Antiarc|Work | Keys -> text log that you can copy out |
| 18:24.26 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, I like that, Peoii |
| 18:24.27 | Peoii | I'd actually use that. |
| 18:24.45 | Jaxon | I'd use that too, this OS has a whole bunch of keys I don't use for anything. |
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| 18:28.01 | Peoii | This whole securepie stuff is rather interesting code. |
| 18:28.05 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r43393 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:28.06 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Skinned GlowFoSho |
| 18:28.06 | CIA-22 | - Changes to Tooltip handling when TinyTip and Chippu are loaded |
| 18:28.06 | CIA-22 | - Errors are sent to the Error Handler |
| 18:30.05 | Strigoi|LR | ehhh :( as always working as intended :< http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7532/wowscrnshot071007220038gp5.jpg (he suppose to switch to normal form when ge get to 30%) but no... 30seconds later http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9951/wowscrnshot071007220137yp2.jpg ... aparently he hits*bit* harder |
| 18:31.27 | Saint-N | hahahaha |
| 18:31.32 | Saint-N | thats pretty awesome |
| 18:31.48 | Strigoi|LR | he looks badass though ;] |
| 18:31.56 | Saint-N | you should petition a GM and tell that you think He's using a hax |
| 18:32.07 | Strigoi|LR | riiight |
| 18:32.21 | Saint-N | he hit super hard! and killed us all, i think he's exploiting a bug! |
| 18:32.23 | Trancer | pffrt |
| 18:32.27 | Trancer | just remove all the trolls from your raid Strigoi|LR |
| 18:32.31 | Trancer | that's the cause. |
| 18:32.43 | Trancer | (and you know it ;-)) |
| 18:32.46 | Strigoi|LR | ye and hunters ;p |
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| 18:32.53 | Tornhoof | you're supposed to have 120k hp |
| 18:32.53 | Trancer | right, drop Nm |
| 18:32.58 | Trancer | silly UAE scum, hop! |
| 18:33.33 | Saint-N | or get him to scrap the other guy thats yelling instead of you guys ;P |
| 18:33.47 | Antiarc|Work | http://pics.livejournal.com/mandydax/pic/000easex |
| 18:33.48 | Saint-N | since obvsiously as an NPC he's got like 4 million hps |
| 18:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian- |
| 18:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/10/07 20:33:47> Dr. Damage: OH Type: Librams was not found in table. Please tell Gagorian. |
| 18:34.06 | Trancer | hehehe Antiarc|Work |
| 18:34.09 | Saint-N | heh |
| 18:34.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i am being flooded with this. |
| 18:34.13 | sag_ich_nicht | fix it. |
| 18:34.16 | sag_ich_nicht | or i will hurt you |
| 18:34.33 | Antiarc|Work | Someone get sag_ich_nicht an SVN account |
| 18:34.44 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: like he'll fix it |
| 18:34.49 | Saint-N | or some valium/ritalin |
| 18:34.50 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: he'll just disable the error message :P |
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| 18:36.25 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43394 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 18:36.25 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 18:36.25 | CIA-22 | - Corrected error with mixed up weapon slots. |
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| 18:36.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr] by ChanServ |
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| 18:37.05 | sylvanaar | sag_ich_nicht is an ironic name lol |
| 18:37.06 | Saint-N | DrDamage. - Corrected sag_ich_nicht's whiny complain #16 |
| 18:37.26 | Saint-N | complaint |
| 18:37.44 | Saint-N | whats it mean |
| 18:37.51 | Saint-N | <-- never bothered to check |
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| 18:38.17 | Dotted | why has PlayerMenu become so buggy :/? |
| 18:38.32 | Saint-N | ckk started working on it ;P |
| 18:38.45 | Trancer | Saint-N: "will not tell" |
| 18:38.56 | Dotted | right |
| 18:38.58 | Saint-N | ahh |
| 18:39.27 | Saint-N | that is rather ironic |
| 18:39.36 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:34] <Trancer> Antiarc|Work: he'll just disable the error message :P <--lies |
| 18:39.43 | Saint-N | sorta like calling a fat guy slim or a tall guy shorty |
| 18:39.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:37] <sylvanaar> sag_ich_nicht is an ironic name lol <--i know. |
| 18:40.03 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a recursive paradoxon. |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43395 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-22 | - Actually, now, corrected sag_ich_nicht's error |
| 18:40.22 | sag_ich_nicht | also, someone has to do the whiney complaints :O |
| 18:40.28 | sag_ich_nicht | rofl |
| 18:40.37 | Saint-N | hah |
| 18:40.40 | Saint-N | tru nuff |
| 18:40.50 | Saint-N | better than whitey complaints i suppose |
| 18:41.17 | sylvanaar | Daemoen were you having issues still? i just put up .25, which also shows the banner ad for the site |
| 18:41.24 | Saint-N | man addon X sucks so much worse than addon Y i bet addon X is black coded ;P |
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| 18:41.40 | Saint-N | ^^ whitey complaints |
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| 18:42.25 | Demone | hrm. cant alt tab anymore, oh well. |
| 18:42.36 | Demone | anyone have a recommended chat addon? |
| 18:42.48 | Saint-N | phanx chat+cirks chat manager |
| 18:42.59 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.townonline.com/cambridge/homepage/x18821908 |
| 18:43.21 | Demone | those both ace'd Saint-N? |
| 18:43.32 | Saint-N | nope and nope ;) |
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| 18:43.43 | Demone | Antiarc: ouch... no sharing painful things :p |
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| 18:44.27 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/runaway-ball-wrecks-car/2007/07/10/1183833488951.html |
| 18:44.36 | Antiarc|Work | Can you imagine the guy behind the controls? |
| 18:44.41 | Antiarc|Work | Swings the arm |
| 18:44.42 | Saint-N | good god that guy isnt someone you fuck with |
| 18:44.45 | Antiarc|Work | The ball pops off. |
| 18:44.47 | Antiarc|Work | "Well shit." |
| 18:44.54 | Daemoen | sylvanaar: nah, its working fine now |
| 18:45.06 | Daemoen | logging out of this nick since i cant alt tab anymore anyway |
| 18:45.18 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-129-181.citizip.com) |
| 18:45.19 | Seerah_ | lol @ Antiarc|Work :) |
| 18:45.22 | Saint-N | stabbed inthe weiner, keeps working catches the bus home THEN calls the ambulance |
| 18:45.39 | Xuerian | What's the current equivalent of the wrt4gL? o_0 |
| 18:46.14 | lolinternet | bad disconnect. |
| 18:46.26 | lolinternet | grr |
| 18:46.27 | Demone | Xuerian: you mean the wrt54gl ? |
| 18:46.36 | lolinternet | now i have to edit the damn stuff in lua slinger AGAIN |
| 18:46.36 | Xuerian | Demone: Yes, I always get it wrong :p |
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| 18:46.49 | Demone | there is the wrt54gl, wrt54, wrt54gs |
| 18:46.50 | Demone | :) |
| 18:47.02 | Demone | gl is v5 or 6 right now, 54gs is v7 |
| 18:47.08 | Demone | and wrt54 is v8 |
| 18:47.31 | sag_ich_nicht | WRT54GSv2.1 > all other WRT |
| 18:47.47 | Demone | sag_ich_nicht: wrt54gl is better than the gs |
| 18:47.54 | Demone | gs will only run micro ddwrt :) |
| 18:47.58 | Demone | gl will run full release |
| 18:47.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Demone |
| 18:48.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i am talking hardware revision |
| 18:48.09 | sag_ich_nicht | 2.1 runs full release. |
| 18:48.11 | Demone | as am i |
| 18:48.38 | Xuerian | Demone, sag_ich_nicht: danke o.0 |
| 18:48.47 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174832155&pageNo=8&sid=1#153 |
| 18:48.52 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | no more swapping gear in arena lol! |
| 18:48.59 | Demone | Xuerian: i can only guess that youre looking into dd-wrt? |
| 18:49.08 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | and the followup blue responses say that resilience will affect DoTs soon |
| 18:49.20 | sag_ich_nicht | lol what |
| 18:49.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you've got to be kidding me. |
| 18:49.32 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | well go look |
| 18:49.34 | Xuerian | Demone: I am, yes |
| 18:49.39 | Tornhoof | heh i wasn't aware that it is possible to swap full gear during combat in the arena |
| 18:49.44 | Xuerian | Demone: Any advice is welcome |
| 18:49.47 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 18:49.48 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | you can go out of combat and swap gear currently |
| 18:49.50 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not possible |
| 18:49.51 | Demone | I ripped out all of my dd-wrt installs |
| 18:49.53 | sag_ich_nicht | but you can get out of combat |
| 18:49.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and swap |
| 18:49.56 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | like swap a full-shadow resist set |
| 18:49.58 | Jaxon | Tornhoof: you can't, but you can identify a team and switch gear before you get put into combat. |
| 18:50.00 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | against a priest/lock 2v2 team |
| 18:50.06 | Xuerian | Demone: Why so? |
| 18:50.10 | Demone | used to love it, but i cannot in good faith support and use software that blatantly is stolen |
| 18:50.23 | Antiarc|Work | You know, it takes some serious balls to fly to 15,000 feet on a lawn chair. |
| 18:50.26 | Tornhoof | ah ok jaxon |
| 18:50.28 | Demone | rather... gpl software thats stolen :-D |
| 18:50.31 | Antiarc|Work | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OR_FLYING_LAWN_CHAIR_OROL-?SITE=ORSAL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT |
| 18:50.32 | Xuerian | Demone: Where's it taken from? :P |
| 18:50.39 | Demone | one sec. |
| 18:51.00 | Xuerian | owrt? |
| 18:51.08 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43396 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 18:51.08 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 18:51.08 | CIA-22 | - One more weapon type check |
| 18:52.13 | Demone | Xuerian: http://www.bitsum.com/about-ddwrt.htm |
| 18:52.29 | Demone | i came across that 2 days before i was getting ready to donate $600 to the project. |
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| 18:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
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| 18:54.20 | phirephly | How's the recovery coming along? |
| 18:54.53 | sag_ich_nicht | what the fucking hell. |
| 18:54.55 | Xuerian | Missed anything directed at me since my last message >_> |
| 18:55.01 | sag_ich_nicht | WHO PUT AN AD IN MY WoWACEUPDATER? |
| 18:55.27 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: Kaelten |
| 18:55.51 | Funkeh` | adds? where? |
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| 18:56.05 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: I take you you don't like files.wowace.com enough, so I can take it down? |
| 18:56.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten I take you don't like google ads? |
| 18:56.29 | sag_ich_nicht | and i take you like annoying flashy banners? |
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| 18:56.50 | Kaelten | google ads don't pay very well, and I don't want gold ads on the site |
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| 18:57.11 | todd | pretty sure ads in wau were mentioned at least two months ago :P |
| 18:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | also that ad is not even remotely relevant to my interests |
| 18:57.15 | Chompers | bigger penis ads or gold spam adds |
| 18:57.22 | Benumbed | just my opinion, but cant he do what he wants and you havce choice anyways =P |
| 18:57.22 | Chompers | tough choice :< |
| 18:57.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a site for mothers |
| 18:57.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm male and 19. |
| 18:57.31 | Benumbed | lol |
| 18:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and more or less single. |
| 18:57.41 | Trancer | sag_ich_nicht: stop browsing sites for mothers then! |
| 18:57.41 | Kaelten | the ads displayed in wau are fairly random |
| 18:57.53 | Funkeh` | yes then kaelten said something about striking a new deal so adds were not needed? |
| 18:57.53 | Peoii | sag_ich_nicht: Realistically... how long are you going to be looking at it? You open WAU, you update your addons, and you close it. Takes.... 30 seconds? Tops? |
| 18:57.57 | Kaelten | bottom line is though, server bills have to be paid. |
| 18:58.02 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Have you looked at Federated Media? |
| 18:58.07 | Nickenyfiken | Oh cmon stop complaining, you fire up WAU, hit a button then minimize it. A banner is not annoying at all. |
| 18:58.14 | Antiarc|Work | They apparently offer some very nice advertising options to high-traffic sites. |
| 18:58.36 | Kaelten | I'm partnered with a group of about 20-50 ad networks atm |
| 18:58.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it is damn annoying. Kaelten how much do the servers cost you? |
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| 18:59.28 | Kaelten | it continues to grow, as our site does |
| 18:59.30 | Demone | sag_ich_nicht: are you always this pessimistic? |
| 18:59.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Demone no |
| 18:59.43 | Gnancy | are you offering cash sag_ich_nicht? |
| 18:59.45 | NightHawkAtWork | ugh |
| 18:59.48 | NightHawkAtWork | the water here is nasty |
| 18:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnancy maybe. |
| 19:00.02 | Gnancy | well not much is done on mabye :P |
| 19:00.03 | NightHawkAtWork | my tea has this.... oily film on it. |
| 19:00.06 | sag_ich_nicht | first i want to know how much traffic wowace.com produces and how much cost it is causing :P |
| 19:00.20 | yacoob | and we'll have the ads replaced by 'sag_ich_nicht paid for server!' banner :D |
| 19:00.21 | Kaelten | oh on avg 1.2 m downloads a day |
| 19:00.26 | Demone | sag_ich_nicht: thats a rigged question..... |
| 19:00.36 | Gnancy | im pretty sure the actual mount is ...alot |
| 19:00.40 | Demone | are we referring to upstream or downstream bandwidth :p |
| 19:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | combined, hurdur. |
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| 19:01.15 | Kaelten | we're pushing several TB a month now. |
| 19:01.24 | CIA-22 | 03kilmmax * r43397 10autoLFG/autoLFG.toc: autoLFG: Update Version-Number and Teaser |
| 19:01.24 | sag_ich_nicht | that's nice. |
| 19:01.33 | Demone | ouch, thats costly :-D |
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| 19:01.49 | yacoob | Kaelten, hm. And what are the prices? Perhaps Amazon's S3 would be cheaper? |
| 19:02.05 | Kaelten | not really yacoob |
| 19:02.09 | Kaelten | I looked at it. |
| 19:02.10 | sag_ich_nicht | does the WAU2 still download the whole package instead of a .diff? |
| 19:02.16 | yacoob | Kaelten, well, you have the numbers :) |
| 19:02.41 | kebinusan | WTF they're goign to make resilience affect dots? |
| 19:02.47 | sag_ich_nicht | excellent. |
| 19:02.53 | sag_ich_nicht | WLs are doomed. |
| 19:02.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 19:03.06 | ravagernl | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.09 | Cotan | can anyone point me towards some testing that shows that taunt has no effect on the aggro list of a mob if you already have aggro? |
| 19:03.10 | Tornhoof | diffs for small perfectly fine compressable files are kinda overrated |
| 19:03.26 | yacoob | kebinusan, url? |
| 19:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Tornhoof it adds up. and you can compress diffs too :P |
| 19:03.36 | kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174832155&postId=1745078202&sid=1#169 |
| 19:03.47 | Cotan | people seem convinced that if someone is above the tank but not yet pulled taunting will grant the tank their level of aggro |
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| 19:03.55 | sag_ich_nicht | lolb |
| 19:03.59 | sag_ich_nicht | -b |
| 19:04.02 | kebinusan | sigh... total crap |
| 19:04.06 | sag_ich_nicht | that's cute |
| 19:04.40 | Xuerian | Tornhoof: If bandwidth is a problem, and the numbers are in the millions, wouldn't you want to reduce it by any means possible? =) |
| 19:04.58 | Kaelten | oh trust me I have taken steps to reducing it drastically. |
| 19:04.59 | Kaelten | :) |
| 19:05.11 | Kaelten | severload has never been better |
| 19:05.19 | Josh_Borke | disable all downloads? o.O |
| 19:05.36 | Tornhoof | the question rather is, what is more expensive serverload or bandwidth ;) |
| 19:05.44 | sag_ich_nicht | bandwidth |
| 19:05.45 | Antiarc|Work | Cotan: I seem to have remember testing that once, and it's not the case. |
| 19:05.57 | Antiarc|Work | Cotan: I am nearly dead certain that taunt grants aggro equal to that of the aggro-holder |
| 19:06.20 | Cotan | thanks, I didn't have much doubt |
| 19:06.38 | Cotan | but on al'ar the other night people were putting forth all sorts ideas about the way it worked |
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| 19:06.57 | phirephly | Does anyone know the status of the wiki recovery? |
| 19:07.05 | Kaelten | generating a diff sounds like a nice idea and all but I don't think it'd pan out all that well, it'd increase the level of complexity in the updates. |
| 19:07.10 | Cotan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.14 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: It's being worked on, I guess? |
| 19:07.17 | Tornhoof | not really sag_ich_nicht, the only diffs which are useful are probably previously calculated diffs of the files up to the last day, dynamically calculated diffs are too expensive computational wise |
| 19:07.19 | Kaelten | phirephly: in progress :) |
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| 19:07.34 | Antiarc|Work | More library authors need to autodoc their crap >_> |
| 19:08.01 | phirephly | Anyone know if the API documentation is in that pile of unfinished recovery stuff or if it's really that bad in it's final form. |
| 19:08.10 | Cryect | Antiarc: btw threat isn't meant to act like whirlwind is active right after Leotheras goes from Demon to Humanoid form is it? (it kept resetting threat when he hadn't started whirlwinding yet) |
| 19:08.16 | Kaelten | I'd have to store every diff for every version and run them in sequence over from X version to Y version, or generate dynamically, or cache every permutation |
| 19:08.19 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Not like anone is going to use AnchorsAway >_> |
| 19:08.21 | Kaelten | none of which are desirable. |
| 19:09.07 | yacoob | Kaelten, hm. Perhaps it's time to move to forcing 'releases'? :) |
| 19:09.14 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: We've got an auto-documentation system in place but library authors need to add relevant doc to their code for it to work. |
| 19:09.27 | Kaelten | yacoob, in the works, but its still months off, since time is limited. |
| 19:09.42 | yacoob | Kaelten, that would shave off decent part of the traffic, I think. |
| 19:09.42 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Yes, it's supposed to, at least according to the module. The info I have says that a phase transition is a threat wipe. |
| 19:09.58 | phirephly | Ah. So it's not an issue with the data loss you're recovering from. |
| 19:10.00 | Peoii | Anyone in a higher end raiding guild (Hyjal/BT or hell, atleast Vashj killing) guild that has an arcane spec'd mage in said guild that holds well in overall dmg output? (Curious about looking at their spec/gear) |
| 19:10.02 | yacoob | as in 'Damn, this bug... I'll update and see whether they've corrected it... no? Ok, wait 5 minutes...' |
| 19:10.20 | Antiarc|Work | Peoii: I'd think an arcane mage would go OOM really fast and not be able to sustain on long fights |
| 19:10.25 | Cryect | Antiarc: Right, the transition is a threat wipe that was working fine, but it kept resetting threat every second like he was whirlwinding but he hadn't started whirlwinding yet |
| 19:10.26 | Kaelten | yacoob: there is an interim solution inplace but the updaters don't support it yet. |
| 19:10.35 | phirephly | Hmmm. Are there any resources available other than the API page in the wowace wiki? All that really gives is names of routines. |
| 19:10.36 | yacoob | Kaelten, like? |
| 19:10.46 | Xuerian | phirephly: us |
| 19:10.47 | Kaelten | .wau file with a Stable=False flag |
| 19:10.53 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: Google caches, and the code :) |
| 19:10.55 | Peoii | Antiarc|Work: I actually tried it last night on Al'ar, and had near no mana issues. Course, 13k mana buffed helped, but it worked out remarkably well. |
| 19:10.59 | yacoob | I know! Anycast the wowwiki.com! :D |
| 19:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:07] <Tornhoof> not really sag_ich_nicht, the only diffs which are useful are probably previously calculated diffs of the files up to the last day, dynamically calculated diffs are too expensive computational wise <--dynamical diff with caching. even more efficient. :P |
| 19:11.02 | Kaelten | using Stable=True to mark a release. |
| 19:11.03 | Peoii | That's what perked my interest :) |
| 19:11.13 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Hm, not sure. I'll look at the module though. |
| 19:11.24 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: still server heavy, and space intensive after a while. |
| 19:11.27 | yacoob | Kaelten, ah. I was rather thinking of cutting people *off* the dev versions whatsoever. |
| 19:11.43 | phirephly | <Sigh> This is why I'm a mainframe programmer. You don't get APIs released for mainframe that aren't pretty thoroughly documented. We're always 6 months behind bleeding edge, but heck, at least when it's release, there are more than 4 people on the planet that can use the language. |
| 19:11.44 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:12.02 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: Heh, unfortunately, documentation tends to be the last thing on the plate in the OSS world :) |
| 19:12.03 | yacoob | or make autopublisher, author tags, system packs and sends the zip to curse/wowi/wherever |
| 19:12.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten: cache is not a permanent storage :P |
| 19:12.04 | sylvanaar | thats going to be such a pain to keep track of |
| 19:12.08 | Antiarc|Work | Especially the OSS hobby world. |
| 19:12.14 | Kaelten | yacoob: the goal is to move to a tagging system for making a release. |
| 19:12.17 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 19:12.31 | sag_ich_nicht | I need an bug catching addon that catches ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED and traces it |
| 19:12.31 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 19:12.38 | phirephly | Something called "fugitive information" in the human-communication model we used at AGF. It's there, but no one can find it. |
| 19:12.41 | yacoob | Kaelten, yeah, but right now I wonder on how big an impact would be to only publish "stable" builds |
| 19:13.04 | Kaelten | then people will complaina bout wanting dev copies. |
| 19:13.04 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: Try http://surf.polarcom.com/~pgilchrist/automated/ if you're desperate |
| 19:13.09 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43398 10Aloft/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:13.09 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 19:13.10 | CIA-22 | - Now uses SharedMedia-1.0 for borders and backgrounds |
| 19:13.20 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 19:13.24 | sag_ich_nicht | bug catcher grabs it |
| 19:13.25 | Kaelten | yacoob: all I can ask is that you guys trust me as I try to guide us through this :) |
| 19:13.33 | yacoob | well, in light of such big load on server I find their complaints null and void :) |
| 19:13.40 | yacoob | Kaelten, sure thing, I'm just pondering :) |
| 19:13.55 | sylvanaar | gotta add a new concept to the version "stable" what are the update rules when comparing your local copy |
| 19:14.15 | NightHawkAtWork | Vote Saxo-- er.. Kaelten! |
| 19:14.42 | sylvanaar | i guess same as with/without externals |
| 19:14.42 | Kaelten | er huh? |
| 19:14.44 | phirephly | Cool beans. I bookmarked the page. I'll wade through it later. What I'm really looking for right now is how to define my own event in ACE2. I'm probably overthinking it, but I want to be able to define and throw an event called "SWITCH_LANGUAGE" or something similar. |
| 19:14.48 | yacoob | I, for one, welcome our old Kaelten overlord. :) |
| 19:14.57 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian-: |
| 19:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/10/07 21:14:49> Dr. Damage: RG Type: Librams was not found in table. Please tell Gagorian. |
| 19:15.01 | Kaelten | I like to think I'm a fair dictator |
| 19:15.03 | sag_ich_nicht | still happening :( |
| 19:15.19 | Xuerian | TriggerEvent("eventName",...) |
| 19:15.20 | NightHawkAtWork | I guess no one here watches who.. >.> |
| 19:15.27 | phirephly | I have the code for actually moving to the next language in the list of known languages, but I wanna move it from a macro to a mod and package it a little better than I have it done now. |
| 19:15.29 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkAtWork |
| 19:15.30 | yacoob | with jolts of fur^Uthat's right! fair and noble! :) |
| 19:15.33 | sag_ich_nicht | if you vote saxon |
| 19:15.36 | sylvanaar | do you know how many update scenerious that will make lol |
| 19:15.42 | sag_ich_nicht | you vote for THE *cuts off* |
| 19:15.47 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: assuming your addon mixes-in AceEvent, just self:TriggerEvent("SWITCH_LANGUAGE") |
| 19:15.47 | NightHawkAtWork | (ta-ta-ta-tum) |
| 19:15.57 | phirephly | TriggerEvent("SWITCH_LANGUAGE") throws the event, right? Don't I have to define it? |
| 19:15.57 | Antiarc|Work | Then, self:RegisterEvent("SWITCH_LANGUAGE") to catch it. |
| 19:15.58 | Xuerian | What Antiarc said >_> |
| 19:16.09 | phirephly | Ah. You guys are looking over my shoulder <grin> |
| 19:16.16 | Antiarc|Work | So you'd have MyAddon:SWITCH_LANGUAGE() ... end as your handler. |
| 19:16.42 | Xuerian | So yes, that throws the event. No definition. Any number of any type of arguments follow. |
| 19:16.57 | phirephly | Oops. I wasn't thinking of that as a separate addon, but as a function in a larger addon - some guild functions packaged together. |
| 19:17.24 | Antiarc|Work | Well, some addon would throw the event, and another addon (or even the triggering addon) would register for and handle the event |
| 19:17.44 | phirephly | But I could do it all in the same addon, right? That's what I was thinking. I may be off base on that. |
| 19:17.45 | KarlThePagan | Punkie`, I like pDebuffList :) |
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| 19:17.46 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7166.0 |
| 19:17.52 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, easily, phirephly |
| 19:17.55 | phirephly | Event driven code hurts my brain. <grin> |
| 19:17.57 | Antiarc|Work | Though why not just use callbacks in that case? |
| 19:17.58 | Xuerian | phirephly: Keep in mind it's a ace event, not picked up from wow |
| 19:18.16 | Xuerian | Or handled by, I should say |
| 19:18.18 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | what the boat |
| 19:18.39 | phirephly | Yup. I wanna tie it to a keybinding, eventually, and use it to toggle from (for a tauren, for example), Orcish and Tauren without having to use the 3 click-and-a-rollover method currently necessary. |
| 19:19.16 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. What do you need an event for then? |
| 19:19.30 | Antiarc|Work | Seems you'd just define a binding with a handler that goes to the next language in a list. |
| 19:19.32 | phirephly | Hmmm. Don't I need an event to tie to the keybinding? |
| 19:19.44 | phirephly | Ah. Okay. I see, sort of. |
| 19:19.51 | phirephly | Or I will in a few more lines <grin> |
| 19:19.58 | Antiarc|Work | Nah, you can use bindings.xml to allow you to set up a keybinding and then handle it with arbitrary code |
| 19:20.08 | Antiarc|Work | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/Bindings.xml |
| 19:20.10 | Antiarc|Work | There's an example |
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| 19:21.27 | phirephly | Very cool. So my code would be in GRPMod:NextLang() (where GRPMod is the name of my mod and NextLang() is the function that jumps to the next language. |
| 19:21.50 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43399 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 19:21.50 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 19:21.50 | CIA-22 | - Only check ranged slot for hunters |
| 19:21.50 | Gagorian- | sag_ich_nicht: ^ |
| 19:21.50 | Antiarc|Work | Yup, basically. |
| 19:22.08 | phirephly | Although I'm thinking CycleLang() is better as it circles back around to the first one when it hits the last one. |
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| 19:22.40 | Antiarc|Work | There's some magic string stuff going on with the header strings, too - I've got OMENTOGGLE as the binding name there, for example |
| 19:22.42 | phirephly | It's a pretty stupid mod, but I run an RP Tauren-only guild on Earthen Ring and we like to chat in " |
| 19:22.49 | phirephly | "say" in Taurahe. |
| 19:22.51 | Antiarc|Work | In my lua, there's an assignment: BINDING_HEADER_OMEN = "Omen" |
| 19:22.58 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 19:23.00 | NeoTron | so approximating the value of the 2 piece voidheart bonus... it's about 35-40 spell dmg over time |
| 19:23.04 | Antiarc|Work | BINDING_NAME_OMENTOGGLE |
| 19:23.08 | phirephly | Sorry, gaming keyboard. Not so good for typing. |
| 19:23.12 | NeoTron | in one fight, a fellow ock procced it on average once per 51s of dps time |
| 19:23.15 | Antiarc|Work | No prob |
| 19:23.35 | NeoTron | naturally it's not guranteed |
| 19:24.14 | NeoTron | but I think looking at the numbers, I'd gain 25 spell hit and lose 21 spell dmg by upgrading to tier 5 shoulders (and using a differen pair of gloves since voidheart setbonus is already broken) |
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| 19:25.24 | [dRaCo] | good tradeoff if you arent capped yet, imho |
| 19:27.22 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 19:27.31 | sag_ich_nicht | who wants to be blamed for this: |
| 19:27.32 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70609 |
| 19:27.50 | Antiarc|Work | Bartender, probably |
| 19:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | probably. |
| 19:28.01 | Antiarc|Work | Did you /rl in combat? |
| 19:28.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc nope |
| 19:28.18 | sag_ich_nicht | just trying to get you your event log |
| 19:28.19 | NeoTron | true |
| 19:28.20 | sag_ich_nicht | since about 4 hours |
| 19:28.23 | Antiarc|Work | heh |
| 19:28.36 | NeoTron | but I typically am always capped on spell hit but sometimes switch gear around to get it |
| 19:28.52 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar already fixed an error in fluidframes that was causing ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED flooding in combat, now only this is left. |
| 19:28.54 | NeoTron | if I really want to go for way too much spell hit I can max out over 20% I think (naturally I'd never do that) |
| 19:29.07 | Xuerian | Ahh, fond memories of XLoot |
| 19:29.14 | NeoTron | so upgrading from spellstrike to t5 pants gives me: -5 spell dmg, -2 hit, +6 crit |
| 19:29.28 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel you there? :O |
| 19:29.38 | NeoTron | and 36 sta, 24 int |
| 19:29.48 | NeoTron | rather sad looking upgrade |
| 19:29.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 19:30.17 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 1h 44m 55s, last said: 'lol'. |
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| 19:30.43 | GuestBaha87 | salut |
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| 19:31.49 | Ominous | how do u set env variables in linux |
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| 19:32.37 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r43400 10JasonQuest/ (Comm.lua Core.lua LogFrame.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 19:32.37 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 19:32.37 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Comm.lua:31attempt to index field '?' (a number value) |
| 19:32.37 | CIA-22 | - Debug messages are now in ChatFrame3, and added some new messages |
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| 19:33.38 | Nightsyte | Sooo...Windows Ads in WAU, fannnntastic. |
| 19:35.20 | hypetech | NeoTron: what class are you? |
| 19:36.30 | sylvanaar | Nightsyte you are supporting the site! |
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| 19:37.36 | Benumbed | any fast way to make a button go back to defaults? |
| 19:37.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Benumbed: /console reloadui |
| 19:38.00 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 19:38.05 | Benumbed | yeah not helping |
| 19:38.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 19:38.10 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 19:38.23 | charon | ckknight: cowtip is your addon too, isn't it? |
| 19:38.32 | Benumbed | yea its his |
| 19:38.40 | Benumbed | hes on an animal kick |
| 19:38.42 | charon | ah |
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| 19:38.54 | Benumbed | cowtip, pitbull, parrot, etc |
| 19:38.59 | Dustwhisper | is there anyway to bind something to a doubletap of a key_ |
| 19:39.02 | Dustwhisper | sounds weird >_< |
| 19:39.09 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, keep state. |
| 19:39.10 | charon | ckknight: another addon i've come to love in about two minutes flat. thanks for your work |
| 19:39.22 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 19:39.32 | Benumbed | next thing will be like kitty or something |
| 19:39.36 | phirephly | I'm off to try this all out. I'm sure I'll be back with questions. |
| 19:40.01 | Benumbed | i really dont want to have to make a skin for my buttons to bring it back to defaults, qq |
| 19:40.06 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 19:40.17 | Dustwhisper | does quartz have any good sheepwatch on focusframe? |
| 19:40.30 | Ominous | who was it that had the dataminer to mine off wow-armory for talent builds for a specific server and then save them to appear in a tooltop? |
| 19:40.40 | Antiarc|Work | Tattle? |
| 19:41.08 | Ominous | no, it wasent tattle |
| 19:41.37 | Chompers | wish someone did weekly EU updates |
| 19:41.39 | Chompers | *hint* |
| 19:41.44 | phirephly | Hmmm. First issue: Why would my OnEnabled event fire twice on login? Is that expected behavior? |
| 19:42.22 | Benumbed | using ace module core? |
| 19:42.26 | physos | Who is providing the advertising for WAU? The ones I get are quite dubious. |
| 19:43.03 | sag_ich_nicht | C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns>grep -r .\*ShapeshiftButton.\*Show.\* * |
| 19:43.04 | sag_ich_nicht | C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns> |
| 19:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | why do you hate me grep D: |
| 19:43.12 | phirephly | Yes. |
| 19:43.17 | phirephly | Yes, ace core. |
| 19:43.22 | phirephly | Sorry, busy chatroom |
| 19:43.38 | Ominous | Chompers: i may be able to setup weekly updates now |
| 19:43.41 | sag_ich_nicht | someone tell me what's wrong in my regex |
| 19:43.42 | phirephly | Brb' |
| 19:44.33 | Ominous | what does tattle actually mine? |
| 19:44.41 | todd | months ago, everyone seemed to agree that msbt > sct |
| 19:44.42 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r43401 10Assessment/Modules/UnitData.lua: |
| 19:44.42 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 19:44.42 | CIA-22 | - Added Group Maximum Health display set, allowing easy confirmation that everyone in the raid has appropriate HP for fights such as Doomwalker, Tidewalker, etc. |
| 19:44.47 | todd | how does parrot compare to msbt |
| 19:45.07 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: It's probably not that direct |
| 19:45.12 | Antiarc|Work | Just grep for Shapeshift |
| 19:45.34 | sag_ich_nicht | grmbl |
| 19:46.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 19:46.55 | sag_ich_nicht | that turns up empty too |
| 19:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | must be something with the regex |
| 19:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | yupp |
| 19:47.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ...i was using syntax too specific to sh |
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| 19:49.05 | sag_ich_nicht | either bartender or cycircled's fault |
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| 19:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70611 there |
| 19:51.03 | Dotted | what svn:eol-style should rtf files have? |
| 19:52.23 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel |
| 19:52.25 | sag_ich_nicht | show up alread< |
| 19:52.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *already |
| 19:52.28 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 19:53.11 | phirephly | Okay, got that one figured out. I had the module name referenced in the XML I cloned and that was triggering a "OnEnable()" plus the one in my LUA code. I'm on to the next thing! Back soon. |
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| 19:58.07 | snirks | whgat are you working on, phirephly? |
| 19:58.19 | snirks | Aondo: hi |
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| 19:59.36 | phirephly | Practice project for ACE2. I'm taking a macro I have that switches from Orcish to Taurahe and converting it to a mod - simpler for my guildies to download. |
| 19:59.53 | phirephly | Ideally, when I'm done it'll work for any race with any number of languages. |
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| 20:00.19 | phirephly | The macro I ahve only works for Taurens. |
| 20:00.28 | Gnarfoz | Chompers: I'm kind-of doing those ;> |
| 20:00.30 | phirephly | We have a tauren-only RP guild on Earthen Ring. |
| 20:00.32 | Recluse | like lore? |
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| 20:02.12 | art3mis | tauren lanuage makes me think of transformers all the time |
| 20:02.23 | art3mis | Bah weep granna weep ninny bon |
| 20:02.52 | starlon | kek |
| 20:04.00 | Antiarc|Work | (Ace isn't an acronym, FWIW) |
| 20:04.18 | phirephly | I'm sorry, Recluse, was that to me? I don't know Lore. This isn't a serious mod, it's a learning mod. Ace2. Got it. |
| 20:04.25 | nevcairiel | Oh ACE is an acronym |
| 20:04.29 | nevcairiel | but not in our case. |
| 20:04.38 | ToastTheif | Awesome Cool Earthlings, of course |
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| 20:05.50 | Dotted | Ace Coolifies Everything |
| 20:05.51 | Dotted | i win |
| 20:06.13 | Gnarfoz | NO U |
| 20:06.20 | Dotted | RTF files not allowed on SVN? Kaelten ping |
| 20:06.29 | phirephly | A Cruel Environment - In honor of the superior API documentation? |
| 20:06.46 | Gnarfoz | quite possible, there was something about limiting allowed file types recently, Dotted |
| 20:07.37 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel |
| 20:07.43 | sag_ich_nicht | stop raiding |
| 20:07.45 | sag_ich_nicht | fix bartender |
| 20:07.52 | art3mis | hrm appearantly that UF bug in raid was fixed today |
| 20:07.52 | nevcairiel | bartender is working fine |
| 20:07.56 | hypetech | so apparently everybody is bitching about some kind of change to orc shoulders? |
| 20:07.58 | nevcairiel | and kaelthas is more important :P |
| 20:08.04 | Dotted | fuck bartender, i want playermenu fixed |
| 20:08.37 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel no it's not, it's causing ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED to spam like crazy |
| 20:08.43 | nevcairiel | not for me |
| 20:08.44 | phirephly | I like TrinityBars. I know it's a little buggy, but I use it to do more than just map keys. |
| 20:08.49 | Dotted | it must have been hard to make such a small addon actually bug :S |
| 20:08.52 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel want a stacktrace? :P |
| 20:08.57 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 20:09.00 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70611 there |
| 20:09.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 20:09.05 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong |
| 20:09.11 | sag_ich_nicht | that's when i grepped to find it's bartender |
| 20:10.09 | hypetech | wth? why does the new WAU have a big ad at the bottom? |
| 20:10.19 | nevcairiel | its not bad |
| 20:10.24 | nevcairiel | it helps keeping the service alive |
| 20:10.25 | padd173 | Which ace addon will tell me what level each quest is for? |
| 20:10.29 | Elkano | because servers don't come for free I think |
| 20:10.40 | hypetech | nevcairiel: you really think anybody is going to click on it? |
| 20:10.57 | nevcairiel | i think views get money too |
| 20:11.05 | CIA-22 | 03dotted * r43402 10Recap/ (15 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:11.05 | CIA-22 | Recap: |
| 20:11.05 | CIA-22 | - Recap_Quick_Start.rtf NOT included |
| 20:11.05 | CIA-22 | - Short fights in which no combatant deals damage or takes damage for more than |
| 20:11.05 | CIA-22 | five seconds will not replace the current Last Fight. Similarly, a 'fight' in |
| 20:11.06 | CIA-22 | which only healing takes place will not replace the current Last Fight. In all |
| 20:11.08 | CIA-22 | cases the information is still fully tracked, and is added into the All Fights |
| 20:11.09 | Elkano | padd173, QuestFu will (I hgouldn't have droped development of QuestLevel back then :/ ) |
| 20:11.13 | nevcairiel | and why not, i sometimes click on the google adds when there is something useful |
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| 20:11.24 | padd173 | Elkano thx |
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| 20:12.09 | Elkano | padd173, but there are most likely smaller nonace addons that will do exactly the same, QuestFu does a lot more and making such an addon aced is a bit wasting imho |
| 20:12.17 | Ominous | how much bandwidth does 1 server update on tattle use? |
| 20:12.24 | padd173 | a |
| 20:12.27 | hypetech | nevcairiel: so far I've seen a row of cartoon chickens, and some bullshit with britney spears and paris hilton, can't they at least be relevant ads? |
| 20:12.45 | padd173 | Elkano: yes, i just want the number next to the quest name. would you happen to know such an addon? |
| 20:12.50 | nevcairiel | ah well, i think Kaelten is still tuning the content for the ads |
| 20:12.58 | sag_ich_nicht | godddamnit |
| 20:13.01 | Elkano | I wonder if my QuestLevel still works ^^ |
| 20:13.06 | art3mis | ya know what i hate most about reinstalls |
| 20:13.13 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel http://pastey.net/70609-432v |
| 20:13.20 | art3mis | having to setup arkinventory again to not be gay |
| 20:13.38 | padd173 | Elkano: is this it? http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5210/ |
| 20:13.47 | Elkano | padd173, you could try http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/547/ with bumping the TOC |
| 20:14.07 | phirephly | K. I got the keybinding to work, but there's no "header" on the keybinding. The CycleLanguage "row" in the display is by itself with a blank space above it. Any idea what I'm doing wrong there? |
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| 20:14.31 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: so? i dont taint the shapeshift button |
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| 20:15.07 | Elkano | padd173, your link is to a version that someone did without asking... at least curse didn't change ownership of the original addon as some other page did... |
| 20:15.23 | padd173 | oh |
| 20:15.27 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: If I have this: <Binding name="OMENTOGGLE" description="Toggle Omen!" header="OMEN"> |
| 20:15.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't say you are tainting it. something in bartender is causing ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED and that makes event logs unreadable |
| 20:15.39 | Antiarc|Work | Then I need to define a variable: BINDING_HEADER_OMEN = "My Header Text" |
| 20:15.44 | sag_ich_nicht | since it's near constant in combat |
| 20:15.58 | RogueShadow_ | Mmm... QuestFu rocks my world. |
| 20:16.06 | nevcairiel | how come you think its bartender? |
| 20:16.21 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: http://pastey.net/70611-49jr |
| 20:16.27 | phirephly | Yeah, Ant, I copied that, and then copied some other text from Informat's Binding.xml. I'm working on it now. I get the binding to work just fine, but cosmetically, in the keybindings menu, it's off a bit. I'll try a few things and get back. |
| 20:16.29 | nevcairiel | yeah .. so? |
| 20:16.31 | art3mis | nevcairiel: because you're here |
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| 20:16.43 | nevcairiel | the stack trace lists it coming from a event in the framexml |
| 20:16.43 | break19 | disable cycircled. |
| 20:16.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 20:16.50 | art3mis | nevcairiel: and he hasnt complain to you yet today, he's got a routine each day and a quota to make! |
| 20:16.51 | nevcairiel | so something taints the update func |
| 20:18.09 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: if you really want to track it down, check all calls/vars in the onevent and update func |
| 20:18.12 | nevcairiel | which are tainted |
| 20:18.20 | nevcairiel | issecure() shows which addon tainted too |
| 20:18.58 | Xuerian | Quartz needs to load on breath events >_> |
| 20:19.08 | RogueShadow_ | woo mail extended. |
| 20:19.36 | padd173 | Elkano: your addon is incompatible - we need an ace addon that does the job - one that updates itself through WAU |
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| 20:19.57 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r43403 10Sphere/ (11 files in 8 dirs): Sphere: - Added Base for Tooltip and Skin Plugins |
| 20:20.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 20:20.26 | Xuerian | padd173: |
| 20:20.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:18] <nevcairiel> issecure() shows which addon tainted too <--i thought issecure() always returns nil? |
| 20:20.37 | Xuerian | padd173: You don't need Ace in a addon that small |
| 20:20.46 | Elkano | padd173, incompatible means that the TOC is still showing a WoW1.x version ^^ but it will most likely have somewhat broken with WoW 2.0. Didn't use it anymore after I started using QuestFu so I stoped development |
| 20:21.00 | padd173 | Xuerian: you need it, to update itself automatically through WAU |
| 20:21.14 | phirephly | Ant: In SpeakEasyGUI, there is a localization file that appears to set the text used as the header in the keybindings menu. |
| 20:21.15 | Xuerian | ~whalecrit padd173 |
| 20:21.16 | purl | ACTION crits padd173 with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. padd173 dies |
| 20:21.19 | phirephly | Does that make sense? |
| 20:21.27 | Arrowmaster | #api issecurevariable() |
| 20:21.30 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, exactly |
| 20:21.39 | phirephly | Okay. Do I need more than just that one line? |
| 20:21.44 | Antiarc|Work | You need a file loaded before your bindings.xml that defines the header text variables |
| 20:21.45 | Xuerian | padd173: You don't need ace for it to be on the svn (and thus /files, and thus available through wau) |
| 20:21.56 | Xuerian | padd173: And furthermore why does it have to be available through wau? |
| 20:22.05 | Antiarc|Work | No, you just need BINDING_HEADER_(header name you specify), and BINDING_TEXT_(text name you specify) variables set |
| 20:22.11 | Ominous | anyone here have any expierence with cpanel and cron jobs? |
| 20:22.15 | padd173 | Xuerian: to update itself without having to visit websites |
| 20:22.24 | Xuerian | padd173: That sort of addon doesn't need updates but once a year |
| 20:22.30 | phirephly | But I can just put THOSE lines in there. I don't need all that other stuff, right? |
| 20:22.36 | padd173 | Xuerian: still, that's more than necessary |
| 20:22.40 | Xuerian | ... |
| 20:22.48 | Elkano | padd173, porting an addon to ace just to justify its existence on the SVN should be a reason for its removal imho |
| 20:22.53 | Antiarc|Work | Correct |
| 20:22.57 | Antiarc|Work | Those variables just have to be defined |
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| 20:23.31 | clad|away | Elkano: word to that. |
| 20:23.36 | Elkano | but give QuestFu a try, it has some nice additional features :) |
| 20:23.38 | padd173 | Elkano: Xuerian said you can add a module on the SVN without porting it to ace. Is that correct? |
| 20:23.45 | Antiarc|Work | Elkano: Agreed. |
| 20:23.55 | durcyn | wau never should have been written. jesus. |
| 20:24.05 | padd173 | Elkano: I'm sure I don't want questfu's additional features, I've tried that addon a while ago |
| 20:24.10 | Antiarc|Work | wau is a wonderful tool, and I'm glad it exists |
| 20:24.19 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: issecurevariable() was what i meant, sry :P |
| 20:24.25 | Xuerian | It just exposes the svn (and this channel) to casual players |
| 20:24.26 | clad|away | wau is the pure definition of a double edged sword, tho :P |
| 20:24.27 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43404 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: add some black temple mobs |
| 20:24.31 | durcyn | clarification: wau should never have pulled bugger-all from trunk |
| 20:24.51 | Mikk | this i think we can agree with |
| 20:24.52 | durcyn | clad|away: built to be fallen upon? |
| 20:24.58 | clad|away | hehe |
| 20:25.08 | Mikk | wtb release flag |
| 20:25.12 | Trancer | chop chop.. two more users and #wowace is on 300 |
| 20:25.18 | Mikk | to never be set on pre-inhouse-alpha stuff |
| 20:25.45 | Pkekyo | from time to time the edges of my screen starts flashing red...wth makes it do so? |
| 20:25.58 | Chompers | Funkeh` |
| 20:26.08 | Trancer | Pkekyo: it's Threat/Omen |
| 20:26.15 | durcyn | could also be BanzaiAlert |
| 20:26.15 | Trancer | Pkekyo: means you got a lot of threat |
| 20:26.16 | voglster | Pkekyo, omen |
| 20:26.28 | Funkeh` | Chompers: do me a favour and don't ping me without a message |
| 20:26.28 | durcyn | wth did omen start futzing with LowHealthFrame? |
| 20:26.31 | Chompers | can you make an incubator fubar module? so i can hover my mouse over it to see the timers |
| 20:26.33 | art3mis | we'll just call it OT for short ;P |
| 20:26.40 | Antiarc|Work | Pkekyo: Look in Omen under the Warnings menu. |
| 20:26.42 | Pkekyo | so basically....f my screen is flashing, I'm about to get zerged? |
| 20:26.53 | Chompers | i wanted to make sure you're here and not type a wasted message! |
| 20:26.54 | Antiarc|Work | Pkekyo: By default, it means that you crossed 90% of the tank's threat. |
| 20:26.55 | voglster | Pkekyo, watch ur threat |
| 20:27.03 | Trancer | If you keep on building more TPS than your tank, oh yes :p |
| 20:27.16 | art3mis | hehe i hover between 87 and 96 ;P |
| 20:27.19 | clad|away | <3 lowhealthframe |
| 20:27.21 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: any chance that the default will be different for mages/locks? |
| 20:27.26 | art3mis | its psychedelic man! |
| 20:27.27 | Josh_Borke | lowhealthframe? |
| 20:27.31 | Antiarc|Work | Trancer: No, it's configurable :P |
| 20:27.36 | Trancer | Okay ;-) |
| 20:27.55 | Pkekyo | ah, that would explain why my screen is flashing *constantly* ^^ |
| 20:27.57 | Antiarc|Work | If you hit 90% in a raid, you might well be overnuking |
| 20:28.06 | Josh_Borke | or you're really good? |
| 20:28.16 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: its my job as sexy glowy black priest |
| 20:28.17 | Xuerian | Technically, really good isn't crossing the line |
| 20:28.19 | Antiarc|Work | Well, I sustain close to 1100 DPS in raids, and I can't catch our tanks :P |
| 20:28.19 | Mikk | 90% in a raid is safe on a big mofo boss |
| 20:28.21 | Xuerian | :) |
| 20:28.26 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 20:28.27 | Mikk | hell, 100% is safe on most too |
| 20:28.27 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel |
| 20:28.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:18] <nevcairiel> sag_ich_nicht: if you really want to track it down, check all calls/vars in the onevent and update func <--that's a lot of work D. |
| 20:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | *D: |
| 20:28.36 | Antiarc|Work | The 90% is there as a safer-than-sorry option |
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| 20:28.38 | art3mis | if im at 90% that means im being a REALLY good health/mana battery ;P |
| 20:28.38 | Trancer | Mikk: 120% is just fine as lock :-) |
| 20:28.40 | Antiarc|Work | But it's configurable for a reason :) |
| 20:28.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i only wanted to give Antiarc a event log :( |
| 20:28.47 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
| 20:28.50 | Chompers | so Funkeh`, would you say a feature like that's possible? |
| 20:28.52 | Trancer | art3mis: you want to be at 120% |
| 20:28.54 | Antiarc|Work | (No worries, I'l get it tonight :) ) |
| 20:29.02 | art3mis | of course it means that should the tank miss one taunt or soemthing that im toast ;P |
| 20:29.16 | art3mis | trancer: usually thers only 2 people beween me and the tank |
| 20:29.20 | art3mis | between |
| 20:29.25 | Antiarc|Work | The tank shouldn't be taunting if he has aggro :P |
| 20:29.27 | Funkeh` | Chompers: im not the author of incubator, i don't have any plans of adding such a thing |
| 20:29.28 | durcyn | 11% below aggro gain, for wonderful fearing mobs |
| 20:29.29 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: well something is tainting some value in there, and i cannot tell you which :P |
| 20:29.36 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: its not that many calls.. |
| 20:29.37 | art3mis | taunint whatever ;P |
| 20:29.38 | Chompers | i thought you were :o |
| 20:29.40 | Antiarc|Work | I like being #3 on the aggro list |
| 20:29.45 | art3mis | im not a warr nor have i ever played melee ;P |
| 20:29.52 | Antiarc|Work | Hehe ,okay |
| 20:29.58 | durcyn | Chompers: grep Author Incubator.toc imo |
| 20:30.03 | art3mis | i swap for 3rd and 4th with a mage |
| 20:30.07 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: actually taunting if you got aggro isn't that bad |
| 20:30.16 | art3mis | it usually goes Tank rogue me/mage everyone else |
| 20:30.17 | Chompers | i have no idea where i got funks name from :/ |
| 20:30.26 | Chompers | sorry Funky |
| 20:30.27 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: because you get the threat of the one highest up, if a warlock is systematically overnuking you, you can gain his threat |
| 20:30.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:29] <nevcairiel> sag_ich_nicht: its not that many calls.. <--grmblgrmbl |
| 20:30.41 | Trancer | not 100% how it works with taunt vs ranged though |
| 20:31.08 | Antiarc|Work | Trancer: I don't think that's true, actually |
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| 20:31.18 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel maybe i should clarify. the longest addon i've ever written is 4 lines long, and it adds some soundfiles to sharedmedialib :P |
| 20:31.26 | Trancer | threat gained by taunt is permanent for while, but hmm.. |
| 20:31.28 | art3mis | isnt that how intercept i think its called works? |
| 20:31.29 | Antiarc|Work | I'm pretty sure that taunt gives you threat equal to max(my threat, threat of current taunted mob's target) |
| 20:31.36 | Eraos | Not sure how it works for Warrior/Pally taunt, but the druid taunt has absolutely no effect if the druid already has aggro. |
| 20:31.40 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 20:31.52 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: ah, target based, might be |
| 20:31.54 | Trancer | art3mis: intervene |
| 20:31.55 | sag_ich_nicht | same for paladin and warrior taunts |
| 20:32.00 | RogueShadow_ | Is there like a cooldown on mining skill up's? |
| 20:32.02 | Xuerian | Doesn't even affect threat, does it? |
| 20:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | paladin taunt is even friendly based not enemy based |
| 20:32.09 | Xuerian | Just forces attack for x seconds |
| 20:32.12 | Eraos | Xue: no. No effect. |
| 20:32.13 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, taunts affect threat |
| 20:32.28 | Antiarc|Work | Mocking Block, Challenging Shout, Challenging Roar do not affect threat. |
| 20:32.28 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't even use it if the person doesn't have aggro |
| 20:32.30 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Ahh, didn't know that. |
| 20:32.32 | Antiarc|Work | Mocking Blow* |
| 20:32.38 | art3mis | RogueShadow_: sorta, if you count the actual mining/crafting/smelting as a cooldown ;P |
| 20:32.49 | Antiarc|Work | If the mob is tauntable, it gives the taunter permanent threat equal to the threat of the person who has aggro on the mob. |
| 20:32.51 | Eraos | Sorry I meant no effect if they already have aggro :P |
| 20:32.59 | Antiarc|Work | Plus the force-concentrate |
| 20:33.12 | RogueShadow_ | art3mis: Ok... Becuase i've noticed I only get one skill point per node, Even if it's orange. |
| 20:33.17 | RogueShadow_ | and mine it 4 times |
| 20:33.21 | art3mis | oh |
| 20:33.24 | art3mis | thers a trick for that |
| 20:33.34 | art3mis | it works that way for crafts too |
| 20:33.40 | RogueShadow_ | oh |
| 20:33.48 | art3mis | with mining nodes if you geta friend to go with you you take turns |
| 20:33.59 | art3mis | basically the node "resets" when he taps it |
| 20:34.05 | RogueShadow_ | ah. I see. |
| 20:34.10 | art3mis | and orange will skill each alternate |
| 20:34.25 | RogueShadow_ | So basically, more skill less cash. |
| 20:34.27 | art3mis | crafting is a bit harder but youll skill faster alternating |
| 20:34.32 | art3mis | sorta |
| 20:34.53 | art3mis | if you take someone thats already 375 with ya you can con the loot from em ;P |
| 20:35.01 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: well its i guess like 10 vars/funcs which you would have to check with /dump issecurevariable("varname") |
| 20:35.02 | art3mis | or you can two-box ;P |
| 20:35.22 | art3mis | its not a 100% skill on alternate but its a lot higher than just you hitting it |
| 20:36.03 | RogueShadow_ | yeah. |
| 20:36.17 | RogueShadow_ | I tried everything but that I think, I don't have a lot of friends with spare time. |
| 20:37.02 | Gagorian- | Aw hell. |
| 20:37.06 | Gagorian- | #api GetItemInfo |
| 20:37.12 | Josh_Borke | !api GetItemInfo |
| 20:37.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Thraebot appears absent |
| 20:37.30 | Gagorian- | ThraeBot fails |
| 20:37.48 | NightHawkAtWork | how about the LookItUpYourDamnSelfBot. :P |
| 20:37.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel already at it |
| 20:38.15 | Mikk | ~api |
| 20:38.27 | sag_ich_nicht | just having trouble finding the actual onevent in bartender :P |
| 20:38.38 | Mikk | purl, api $1 ~is http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1 |
| 20:38.46 | Mikk | ~api GetItemInfo |
| 20:39.08 | Mikk | purl, api $1 is http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1 |
| 20:39.09 | purl | okay, Mikk |
| 20:39.16 | Mikk | ~api GetItemInfo |
| 20:39.17 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 20:39.21 | Mikk | tadaa! |
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| 20:39.51 | Xuerian | ~cookie Mikk |
| 20:40.13 | Gagorian- | So, the 5th return is localized. That's just massively gay. |
| 20:40.23 | Antiarc|Work | 5th return? |
| 20:40.25 | Antiarc|Work | Oh |
| 20:40.26 | Antiarc|Work | Right |
| 20:41.00 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 20:41.01 | Gagorian- | ermm 6th |
| 20:41.07 | Mikk | itemMinLevel is localized? =P |
| 20:41.18 | NightHawkAtWork | lol |
| 20:41.23 | Mikk | And yeah, those are somewhat of a pain yeah |
| 20:41.30 | Cryect | Localized Levels damn |
| 20:41.37 | Gagorian- | 6 and 7 are localized.. so I need to find out whatever they are |
| 20:41.44 | Gagorian- | Or, stuff breaks massively |
| 20:41.53 | Mikk | check if babble has it |
| 20:42.06 | Mikk | err nvm |
| 20:42.08 | Cryect | Be nice if localization stuff was built into the client >_> |
| 20:42.10 | Mikk | or |
| 20:42.14 | sbu | yay |
| 20:42.15 | sbu | finally |
| 20:42.19 | sbu | tidewalker down |
| 20:42.20 | sbu | :/ |
| 20:42.22 | abyssichate | Antiarc: with the latest revision of Threat-1.0, all the warlocks were having shown their own (passive) pets quite high on threat while fighting lord sanguinar only |
| 20:42.24 | sbu | 1st try today... |
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| 20:42.59 | Elkano | both type and subtype of GetItemInfo are localized, only the slot isn't |
| 20:43.32 | Gagorian- | That's been breaking my addon :/ |
| 20:43.54 | Elkano | DrDamage? |
| 20:43.55 | Xuerian | What's your addon doing? |
| 20:44.02 | clad|away | New LightHeaded released with parsed comments from today. |
| 20:44.08 | Gagorian- | Indeed |
| 20:44.17 | Gagorian- | Xuerian: Gets the normalization modifier based on weapon type |
| 20:44.21 | Xuerian | Ah. |
| 20:44.46 | Gagorian- | I can't see a way of doing it without localizing.. |
| 20:44.56 | Mikk | no, you need it localized |
| 20:44.57 | Gagorian- | well, possibly. |
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| 20:45.36 | Gagorian- | Some I can cope without localizing |
| 20:45.43 | Gagorian- | Like all ranged slot are 2.8 |
| 20:45.48 | kebinusan | anyone know why prat urlcopy sometimes chops off urls |
| 20:45.50 | Mikk | Babble-Inventory has translations for weapon types |
| 20:46.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Gagorian-: you really only need it for 1h weapons, right? |
| 20:46.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Dagger vs everything else. |
| 20:46.19 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: its not in bartender, its in BonusActionBarFrame.xml in the FrameXML |
| 20:46.20 | Mikk | >>>>>>>>>> Babble-Inventory has translations for weapon types |
| 20:46.30 | Gagorian- | Mikk: Nope :( |
| 20:46.33 | NightHawkAtWork | Mikk: no one wants to hear your gorram logic and sense! |
| 20:46.35 | NightHawkAtWork | :P |
| 20:46.36 | Mikk | eh? |
| 20:46.49 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r43405 10Prat/Prat_Modules/extras/Presets.lua: Prat: Prat_Modules/extras/Presets.lua: added Fin's presets; add a bunch of extra comments giving a bit more information on how to add your own preset and what to modify etc. |
| 20:46.50 | Gagorian- | The returns are "One-Handed Axes", "Daggers" etc |
| 20:46.51 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.57 | Gagorian- | not what's in babbleinv |
| 20:46.58 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:46] <nevcairiel> sag_ich_nicht: its not in bartender, its in BonusActionBarFrame.xml in the FrameXML <--what. |
| 20:47.14 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.21 | sag_ich_nicht | oh right |
| 20:47.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 20:47.23 | Gagorian- | Mikk: The type is "Daggers" not "Dagger" |
| 20:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 20:47.24 | sag_ich_nicht | tired |
| 20:47.25 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 20:47.37 | sag_ich_nicht | god i don't have them extracted atm, where is the tracker >.> |
| 20:47.44 | Antiarc|Work | >________< |
| 20:47.50 | Antiarc|Work | Sending gold takes an hour via mail now. |
| 20:47.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc only to other people. |
| 20:48.00 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.03 | Antiarc|Work | yeah, but still |
| 20:48.31 | Mikk | Gagorian-: erm ouch wha |
| 20:48.47 | Mikk | Sounds like it's time to extend babble :S |
| 20:48.59 | Gagorian- | let me pastey the types |
| 20:49.17 | art3mis | haha |
| 20:49.17 | Gagorian- | http://ace.pastey.net/70614 |
| 20:49.22 | Gagorian- | There is what I hae |
| 20:49.27 | art3mis | they amde gold take an hour because of the gold sellers ;P |
| 20:49.33 | Gagorian- | s/hae/have/ |
| 20:49.50 | Mikk | that's the weapon skill names no? |
| 20:50.05 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r43406 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: |
| 20:50.05 | CIA-22 | Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: moved report of total aliases to outside |
| 20:50.05 | CIA-22 | the loop displaying aliases, so the total is only shown once, at the end, like |
| 20:50.05 | CIA-22 | in normal world where people aren't stupid and test things properly, you idiot, |
| 20:50.05 | CIA-22 | Fin |
| 20:50.38 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 20:51.02 | Gagorian- | Mikk: Nah, 7th return of GetItemInfo. Item SubType |
| 20:51.02 | art3mis | thats a pretty good commit message |
| 20:51.24 | Mikk | mmyeah "Staves" |
| 20:52.41 | Mikk | otoh |
| 20:52.42 | Gagorian- | Also, is there an API to see if weapon is one/two-handed? |
| 20:52.43 | Mikk | if those are the weapon skill names |
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| 20:52.58 | Mikk | check the INVTYPE_ return from GetItemInfo |
| 20:53.05 | Mikk | it has a nice untranslated string |
| 20:53.16 | Mikk | oooooh wait a sec... maybe you can go dig in globalstrings |
| 20:53.17 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43407 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: more black temple mobs |
| 20:53.19 | Arrowmaster | not all the INVTYPE_ returns actually return strings |
| 20:53.20 | phirephly | Very cool! All I have to do now is copy the macro code and I'm golden. Ace2 ROCKS! |
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| 20:53.57 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: no, but you'd obviously look at the variable NAME, not the string |
| 20:54.18 | Gagorian- | Mikk: Daggers are for example INVTYPE_WEAPONMAINHAND |
| 20:54.21 | Gagorian- | so it wont work |
| 20:54.29 | Mikk | yeah i know, but it'll tell you 2h vs 1h |
| 20:54.33 | Mikk | but yeah.. daggers |
| 20:54.50 | Arrowmaster | imho just extend babble |
| 20:54.57 | Arrowmaster | it really should have that stuff anyway |
| 20:55.05 | Mikk | Thing is though |
| 20:55.12 | Mikk | You can scan your weapon skills |
| 20:55.22 | Mikk | The strings returned by GetItemInfo subtype for weapons will match them |
| 20:55.33 | Mikk | Now, the question is, can you go from those skills to something known? |
| 20:55.41 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: i had a funny bug in Omen now .. the threat display was showing very odd percentages, like 47583% and such, and no aggro-gain-bar .. only when i cleared my target, and retargeted, it worked again |
| 20:56.02 | Antiarc|Work | Sounds like you had someone showing as having aggro with like 2 threat. |
| 20:56.06 | Thrae | !api GetItemInfo |
| 20:56.07 | ThraeBot | Thrae: itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, itemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID or "itemString" or "itemName" or "itemLink") -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 20:56.38 | Gagorian- | Well, well. |
| 20:56.44 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: well the mob had the tank targeted |
| 20:56.50 | Gagorian- | Seems like the easiest solution is to use babble for the subtypes |
| 20:56.54 | nevcairiel | (and it happend just again) |
| 20:57.14 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 20:57.16 | nevcairiel | maybe its important to note that i actually had the tank targeted myself |
| 20:57.18 | Antiarc|Work | Screenshot it for me? |
| 20:57.18 | nevcairiel | and not the mob |
| 20:57.27 | Antiarc|Work | You mean on the pullout bars? |
| 20:57.35 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 20:57.43 | nevcairiel | will screenshot when it happens again |
| 20:57.45 | nevcairiel | brb kael fight |
| 20:57.57 | Margus | ckknight: are you there? |
| 20:58.17 | Rayden | can you use macros to change your main and offhand weapons? |
| 20:58.23 | Gagorian- | yes |
| 20:58.28 | Mikk | hahahaa |
| 20:58.29 | Mikk | wait |
| 20:58.30 | Mikk | can i answer that one |
| 20:58.35 | phirephly | Converting a number to a string? ToString(x) where x is the number? |
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| 20:58.50 | Antiarc|Work | Lua does it implicitly |
| 20:58.50 | Mikk | Rayden: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ |
| 20:58.54 | Mikk | "Top 5 Way-Too-Frequently Asked Questions" |
| 20:58.56 | Antiarc|Work | But if you need to, then yes, tostring(x) |
| 20:59.02 | Rayden | :) |
| 20:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 20:59.13 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW crashed again |
| 20:59.20 | Margus | gz! |
| 20:59.32 | Rayden | do you need an empty spot in your bag for that to work? |
| 20:59.33 | phirephly | Ah. Okay, so if I self:Print(x) and X is an integer, that will work? And if I need to concatenate it with some other text: self:Print("some string" x)? |
| 20:59.42 | Mikk | "some string" .. x |
| 20:59.50 | Mikk | '..' is the concatenation operator |
| 21:00.10 | Rayden | anyone here use CBRipoff? |
| 21:00.38 | [dRaCo] | I used too |
| 21:00.40 | Rayden | it disappeared a few days ago and i can't figure out why |
| 21:00.44 | [dRaCo] | but quartz is way better ;) |
| 21:01.06 | phirephly | Got it. Very cool. I'm getting SOOOO close to being done with this first cut at this. |
| 21:02.00 | Awaa | hmm.. i keep getting debuffs in unit frames with pitbull |
| 21:02.04 | cryogen | hmm yup |
| 21:02.05 | Mec | is there a way in lua to break out of 2 for loops? |
| 21:02.11 | Fisker- | lol |
| 21:02.12 | cryogen | the pitbull res in tk bug is still there |
| 21:02.14 | Fisker- | http://www.engagefm.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=146&sid=4b0cc704a85fcadcbdc47045e7986bb2 |
| 21:02.21 | Fisker- | "Are you Mirc familiar? (Youll need to be)" |
| 21:02.23 | Fisker- | lolo |
| 21:02.32 | Ominous | nymbia: yoy around? |
| 21:02.44 | Rayden | i've never used mirc |
| 21:02.53 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 21:03.03 | Fisker- | haha |
| 21:03.07 | Fisker- | then you can't get teh job!1 |
| 21:03.17 | Fisker- | how did i used Mirc |
| 21:03.21 | Fisker- | apparently it's not mIRC |
| 21:03.45 | NeoTron | so is there some addon that's better than class timer (esp multi-target support) but not as heavy resource wise as dotimer? |
| 21:04.14 | Dotted | Kaelten ping |
| 21:04.18 | NeoTron | now when I'm back to affliction classtimer is lacking :-/ |
| 21:04.22 | Kaelten | ? |
| 21:04.36 | Ominous | NeoTron: cos of multitarget? |
| 21:05.54 | Dotted | Kaelten rtf files on the svn |
| 21:06.01 | Dotted | påossible? |
| 21:06.03 | Dotted | -å |
| 21:06.20 | sylvanaar | set the mime type |
| 21:06.23 | Dotted | did |
| 21:06.48 | Demone | ckknight: is it possible with pb to have the unit frames different scales based upon which mode you are in? |
| 21:06.58 | Kaelten | Dotted: why? |
| 21:07.03 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43408 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: checkforwipe |
| 21:07.26 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:07.45 | Dotted | because hawksy made an RTF file in his Recap reincarnation, i'd like to have uploaded :) |
| 21:07.47 | art3mis | demone: which mode? |
| 21:08.03 | Demone | ie: raid, solo, party |
| 21:08.07 | art3mis | oh yup |
| 21:08.10 | art3mis | it is |
| 21:08.25 | art3mis | thats actually how it works |
| 21:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 21:08.30 | art3mis | you modify each "subgroup" |
| 21:08.36 | trh | Adirelle: [2007/07/10 19:39:56-675-x1]: SimpleSelfRebuff-r12\SimpleSelfRebuff.lua:496: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got string) |
| 21:08.51 | trh | Adirelle: and ssr doesn't unbind the keys when something is missing and you go into a city |
| 21:08.55 | art3mis | theres a setting to allow for changing them all at once but they also behave as seperate entities(thats how they were originally) |
| 21:08.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i have found the loop in BonusActionBarFrame.lua that is causing the calls |
| 21:08.57 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 21:09.00 | sag_ich_nicht | but i can't find what tainting it |
| 21:09.07 | trh | Adirelle: you rebuff trueshow aura /etc permanently =) |
| 21:09.40 | Dotted | Kaelten is it possible? |
| 21:09.52 | sylvanaar | why wouldnt it be |
| 21:10.01 | Dotted | i cant upload it |
| 21:10.07 | Dotted | got *.rtf = svn:mime-type=text/rtf;svn:eol-style=native in [auto_props |
| 21:10.08 | Kaelten | possible yes, I just need validation for need and knowledge it can't be used evilly |
| 21:10.08 | Dotted | ] |
| 21:10.28 | Demone | art3mis: after importing layouts is it necessary to do a /rl? |
| 21:10.36 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: we're whitelisting filetypes to stop executables from being uploaded |
| 21:10.39 | trh | Adirelle: but my version is a littlebit outdated :( |
| 21:10.44 | sylvanaar | o |
| 21:10.44 | Dotted | Kaelten rtf's are just as evil as txt files |
| 21:11.09 | Kaelten | thats what I thought |
| 21:11.10 | Kaelten | one sec |
| 21:11.11 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel i don't think i'm qualified enough to debug where this is coming from :( |
| 21:11.19 | Demone | ahh, nvm, found it |
| 21:11.36 | sylvanaar | so you removing .sh and .bat? |
| 21:12.08 | Daemona | thx for making me scroll through 5 hours of chatlog to see why Fisker- and sylvanaar highlightet me just to notice that they highligted the wront... |
| 21:12.12 | Kaelten | Dotted: try now |
| 21:12.20 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: only trusted users can upload them now. |
| 21:12.25 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 21:12.29 | art3mis | demone: i believe so, not 100% though |
| 21:12.41 | *** join/#wowace phyphor (n=phyphor@87-194-221-75.bethere.co.uk) |
| 21:12.51 | CIA-22 | 03dotted * r43409 10Recap/Recap_Quick_Start.rtf: Recap: Add missing RTF |
| 21:13.02 | Kaelten | basically meant to stop joe blow getting an svn account and putting a bad executable in fubar or something |
| 21:13.15 | Dotted | LOL |
| 21:13.32 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70609-432v |
| 21:13.34 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone here willing to help me find where this is coming from? :( i'm not really qualified enough to do so. >< |
| 21:13.41 | Fin | Kaelten: is there a "reinstall all addons" in WAU2? |
| 21:13.49 | Thrae | Kaelten: No post-commit virus scan? |
| 21:13.55 | Dotted | Kaelten |
| 21:13.59 | Dotted | bah |
| 21:14.00 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43410 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: .Babble-Inventory-2.2: - Added keys for item sub types (weapons), need all localizations |
| 21:14.01 | Dotted | thx Kaelten |
| 21:14.02 | Kaelten | Thrae: that'd be server intensive |
| 21:14.06 | Kaelten | Fin: not yet |
| 21:14.16 | Thrae | Kaelten: I'll chip in to upgrade you from that old Pentium II you're using now :D |
| 21:14.23 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:14.28 | Fin | can anyone suggest the best way to convert from embedded to non-embedded? |
| 21:14.33 | art3mis | syl or kael, any chance you can make uninstall selected and uninstall marked as two seperate values? |
| 21:14.40 | art3mis | in WAU i mean |
| 21:14.52 | [dRaCo] | fin: wau 1.9 |
| 21:15.03 | art3mis | so that you can "tag all marked" but still scroll down see something you dont want select it and remove JUST that one and not all the marked ones? |
| 21:15.06 | PHL-Chuck | hmm had all addons selected and clicked search.. |
| 21:15.08 | Fin | [dRaCo]: it hangs for me, I'm assuming because it's been blockerised or something |
| 21:15.11 | PHL-Chuck | thats 90 some windows. |
| 21:15.12 | Leialyn | does those version put every module in seperate folders draco ? |
| 21:15.13 | art3mis | err "mark all installed" |
| 21:15.13 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: for starters, try /dump issecurevariable("ShapeshiftBar_OnEvent"), and the same for ShapeshiftBar_UpdateState |
| 21:15.44 | sag_ich_nicht | already tried that, reported to be secure |
| 21:16.05 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: and try GetNumShapeshiftForms NUM_SHAPESHIFT_SLOTS GetShapeshiftFormInfo GetShapeshiftFormCooldown |
| 21:16.11 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: CooldownFrame_SetTimer |
| 21:16.21 | Arrowmaster | its probably one of those taints that only shows up with it actually gets run because something being called inside those functions is tainted |
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| 21:17.04 | Fin | well, this unfortunately kind of sucks about WAU2 - it defaults to using noext, and installs all the libs by default, but doesn't give you a way to convert installed addons to noext |
| 21:17.17 | [dRaCo] | Leialyn: yes. |
| 21:17.28 | Mikk | art3mis: too bad lua can't manipulate the filesystem from inside wow |
| 21:17.35 | art3mis | yeah |
| 21:17.42 | art3mis | that would be way too much fun ;P |
| 21:17.45 | art3mis | although |
| 21:17.48 | Mikk | Fin: http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat |
| 21:17.52 | art3mis | it can create files ;P |
| 21:17.57 | Fin | Mikk: thank you kindly |
| 21:17.58 | Mikk | eh? |
| 21:17.59 | nevcairiel | Fin: hitting reinstall should do that, i think |
| 21:18.08 | Fin | nevcairiel: there's no reinstall option in WAU2 |
| 21:18.10 | art3mis | so really you could embed the raw lines to output to a file to execute ;P |
| 21:18.11 | Mikk | lua can't touch the FS at all from inside wow |
| 21:18.12 | Mikk | it's 100% sandboxed |
| 21:18.15 | Leialyn | [dRaCo] I hate addon folders with all BigWigs or PitBull or whatever modules beeing placed in the main addon folder |
| 21:18.28 | art3mis | not even logs and stuff? |
| 21:18.32 | Mikk | correct |
| 21:18.34 | Leialyn | addon folder screens* |
| 21:18.37 | art3mis | thats all cached until shutdown? |
| 21:18.39 | Demone | the cobal layout from wowace isnt working right darnit |
| 21:18.45 | Mikk | yes |
| 21:18.51 | art3mis | so you could cache the write ;P |
| 21:18.59 | Mikk | what are you talking about? |
| 21:19.00 | art3mis | and execute on next load? |
| 21:19.12 | Mikk | there. is. no. way. to. create. exe. files. from. inside. wow. |
| 21:19.13 | Mikk | at. all. |
| 21:19.20 | art3mis | lies! |
| 21:19.23 | Fin | Mikk: I think maybe Quixote should be in the list? |
| 21:19.24 | *** join/#wowace Xyphor (n=nospam@145-206-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 21:19.32 | Xyphor | Who broke skinner? ^^ |
| 21:19.36 | [dRaCo] | you forget the "never." |
| 21:19.42 | Mikk | never. |
| 21:19.43 | Mikk | ever. |
| 21:19.50 | Mikk | ~lart abusers |
| 21:19.50 | purl | flings poo at abusers |
| 21:19.54 | sag_ich_nicht | there we have it |
| 21:19.56 | Fin | fine, fine, you don't like Quixote |
| 21:20.01 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/10/07 23:19:47> DevTools: value=issecurevariable("CooldownFrame_SetTimer") |
| 21:20.02 | sag_ich_nicht | 07/10/07 23:19:47> [2]="Ace2" |
| 21:20.06 | Kaelten | lart Mikk |
| 21:20.07 | Mikk | Fin: oh, wasn't talking to you =) |
| 21:20.11 | Kaelten | ~lart Mikk |
| 21:20.11 | purl | hits Mikk with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 21:20.12 | art3mis | does it limit the types of "log" files it can create on close? |
| 21:20.50 | Fin | Mikk: heh, yeah, sorry jus joking :) funny aren't I |
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| 21:20.50 | art3mis | errr .ext's i mean |
| 21:20.50 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: well then grep for that name in your addons folder :) |
| 21:20.58 | Demone | art3mis: ever seen the error "pbRevision" must be a number. ? |
| 21:21.07 | art3mis | nope |
| 21:21.16 | Mikk | art3mis: you can't specify what logs to create at all. all you can do is tell the engine to enable chat log, or combat log. you have no control over the names. |
| 21:21.17 | art3mis | i can guess what it means |
| 21:21.17 | Fin | PHL-Chuck: yes, yes |
| 21:21.17 | Kaelten | phyphor: servers have to get paid for |
| 21:21.26 | art3mis | but nope havent seen it personally |
| 21:21.31 | Fin | Mikk: love the script, very handy |
| 21:21.34 | Fin | Mikk++ |
| 21:21.39 | trh | phyber: unless you pay Kaelten's 1000$ server bill every month |
| 21:21.44 | Demone | art3mis: i know what it means theoretically... but when i copy and paste the code from the forums and change the revision, it goes wacky |
| 21:21.50 | phyphor | $1000 a month? |
| 21:21.53 | art3mis | mikk: then how does auctioneer store it's data? |
| 21:21.59 | trh | phyphor: ~ |
| 21:22.10 | art3mis | demone: the revision should match the revision of pb i'm guessing |
| 21:22.11 | Demone | the original frame design (by velveeta) was older than the new stuff, so I simply changed the revision number (did the same thing when i left the rvn the same too) |
| 21:22.16 | Demone | tried that ;) |
| 21:22.36 | art3mis | hrm |
| 21:22.39 | art3mis | dunno then |
| 21:22.39 | Mikk | art3mis: that's savedvar files. they're forcibly named "AddonName.lua" |
| 21:22.54 | art3mis | mikk: ahh okay thats what i meant when i said "logs" |
| 21:23.05 | phirephly | Which library do I need to mixin to get to the print function? |
| 21:23.06 | Kaelten | phyphor: it grows as the site grows :S |
| 21:23.17 | Mikk | and even though you could shoehorn assembly instructions into the saved data, they would be escaped and saved as lua-style data. so. no. |
| 21:23.28 | Mikk | Pheredhel: AceConsole |
| 21:23.33 | phyphor | Yeah, I guess the site ads aren't paying for the hits cuased by the updater itself, it's fair enough |
| 21:23.35 | phirephly | Thanks! |
| 21:23.52 | art3mis | oh no it makes sense now, i think the word "log" was what was causing the communication errors |
| 21:24.04 | Pheredhel | äh? |
| 21:24.06 | Kaelten | phyphor: exactly, updater traffic accounts for more than 80% of traffic. |
| 21:24.17 | phyphor | But $1k seems excessive, but I guess if you're happy with the host it makes sense |
| 21:24.23 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r43411 10Skinner/Skinner.lua: Skinner: Fixed Typo :( |
| 21:25.00 | Kalman| | Some of those mods are multi-megabyte files being downloaded upwards of 100k times. |
| 21:25.00 | Kaelten | phyphor: its the 35 mbit/s 95th percentile |
| 21:25.32 | art3mis | Kaelten: the banners rotate right? |
| 21:25.35 | phirephly | Okay. It's up and working. Given the general tone of this board, I hate to ask this question <grin> but "where do I put it?" |
| 21:25.49 | Kaelten | I want micro transactions |
| 21:25.50 | art3mis | cuz i cant see multiple hits in traffic being that beneficial if they arent uniques |
| 21:25.56 | Kaelten | 5 updates for a penny! |
| 21:26.23 | phyphor | Kaelten, I mean no disrespect. I am grateful for the service provided and am happy for ads to support the cause, I was just curious. |
| 21:26.31 | phirephly | Actually, I'd prefer if I could get someone to try to break it first. Any volunteers? |
| 21:26.33 | Kaelten | phyphor: np I understand the curiosity |
| 21:26.37 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:26.50 | art3mis | Kaelten: include a paypal "banner"? ;) |
| 21:26.57 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:27.00 | art3mis | for donations |
| 21:27.06 | phyphor | As a thought ... could the mods themselves be distributed to Sourceforge and let them take the hit? |
| 21:27.11 | Ominous | Mikk: is it possible to make a svn repo not need a username/pass if its accessed from svn://127.0.0.1/myrepo but need one if its accesed from an external site |
| 21:27.15 | art3mis | serious once ever 20 or so hits is bound to help the cause |
| 21:27.37 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Ping |
| 21:28.02 | NightHawkAtWork | Ominous: i bet the svn book knows. or google. |
| 21:28.14 | art3mis | Kaelten: and you could do nightly pushes to some of the "free" svns that exist for the large compilations |
| 21:28.22 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: Yes, easily with mod_dav_svn and a .htaccess file |
| 21:28.44 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: You can put it in SVN, if you've got an SVN account |
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| 21:28.56 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: Alternately, throw a zip up somewhere and beg for testers :D |
| 21:29.09 | Kaelten | Ominous: yes it is since svn:// would be using a different dameon |
| 21:29.30 | Kaelten | art3mis: I honestly don't want to branch everything out to 50 bajillion servers |
| 21:29.31 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:29.53 | RogueShadow_ | Simplicity :) |
| 21:29.55 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: do you have updated download logs? Or was that killed after the last, ahem, incident? :) |
| 21:29.59 | phirephly | K. I'm working on one more spiff. I had it set up to require the Ace2 mod separately. I wanna embed the necessary libraries and make sure it works and THEN I'll post it somewhere. Anyone know how hard it is to post on Curse? |
| 21:30.08 | Antiarc|Work | Not hard. |
| 21:30.09 | Trancer | Kaelten: wonder if p2p with a central node (files.wowace.com) would lower load |
| 21:30.20 | Trancer | Kaelten: although, probably people don't keep their tracker open long enough |
| 21:30.21 | Antiarc|Work | I was thinking a p2p type thing, too |
| 21:30.30 | Trancer | unless you establish a few supernodes |
| 21:30.42 | art3mis | sending out 20mbs once a night has got to be better though, plus it would only be one of 2 free servers, and you could hardcode them into the client so it's seemless? |
| 21:30.52 | Thrae | Kaelten: It actually might be a lot cheaper to have multiple servers at one datastation each of X resource potentional instead of having one server at X*5 resource potentional. |
| 21:30.53 | Trancer | (from wellwilling sponsors.. I bet there are a plenty of sysadmins who can sponsor it) |
| 21:30.55 | art3mis | OH |
| 21:31.01 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: Lots of mods update more than once per day :P |
| 21:31.12 | art3mis | Kaelten: the other thing that would be good are "depriciated" addobns |
| 21:31.15 | Thrae | Kaelten: Especially that way, you can get some redundancy along with your clustering. |
| 21:31.22 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: true but not the big compilations ;) |
| 21:31.33 | Kaelten | our next server move will be to a branch out more than growing up |
| 21:31.42 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43412 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc Melee.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 21:31.42 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 21:31.42 | CIA-22 | - Added Babble-Inventory-2.2 |
| 21:31.42 | CIA-22 | - Removed old weapon type notification, added notification for missing translations that should be less spammy |
| 21:31.44 | Antiarc|Work | Obviously we should start bzipping everything |
| 21:31.45 | Thrae | Yeah, sounds good. |
| 21:31.47 | Antiarc|Work | Rather than zipping it |
| 21:32.09 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.108.51) |
| 21:32.12 | sag_ich_nicht | damn it. |
| 21:32.16 | Trancer | Hmm.. |
| 21:32.24 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: No no, rar it! Even better! Or if we can have a Pentium Dual Core 8GHz dedicated to 7zip'ing! |
| 21:32.32 | phirephly | Any line on a free zip tool? One that doesn't expire? I've got Winace, but it's expired. |
| 21:32.34 | phyphor | Thrae, if your'e doing that they don't need to even be in the same physical location |
| 21:32.39 | Josh_Borke | ooo, ooo, i know! don't distribute with WAU from the server? ;-P |
| 21:32.42 | Antiarc|Work | 7Zip, phirephly |
| 21:32.45 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel could you be so kind and paste me the name of the tainted var? my PC decided to crash when i alt + tabbed and the chatlog is kind of borked |
| 21:32.46 | Trancer | 7zip |
| 21:32.46 | Thrae | phirephly: WinRar is nagware |
| 21:32.46 | durcyn | phirephly: 7zip |
| 21:32.48 | sag_ich_nicht | or someone else |
| 21:32.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care |
| 21:32.51 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 21:32.51 | Josh_Borke | ultimate zip |
| 21:33.10 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: CooldownFrame_SetTimer |
| 21:33.10 | NightHawkAtWork | i like `zip` and `unzip` |
| 21:33.13 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 21:33.29 | durcyn | 7zip's context menu is superb if you're stuck in windows hell. |
| 21:33.32 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. it looks like it's CooldownCount |
| 21:33.33 | phyphor | Thrae, you could distribute out to multiple servers (wherever) and use round robin DNS (or similar) to distribute the downloading |
| 21:33.41 | sag_ich_nicht | disabling it fixes it |
| 21:34.05 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: try omnicc then |
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| 21:34.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster does it work with bartender? :O |
| 21:34.29 | Thrae | phyphor: Well it depends on how the datacenters measure the bandwidth usage. I doubt they would care about LAN usage, and mirroring the servers could take a bit of bandwidth right there. |
| 21:34.32 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 21:34.33 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:34.43 | sag_ich_nicht | that doesn't change the fact that i still need to report this to the cooldowncount author |
| 21:34.59 | Arrowmaster | im supprised cooldowncount is still around |
| 21:35.08 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was abandoned multiple times |
| 21:35.14 | Thrae | phyphor: I think the -real- problem is with the amount of resources spent just on HTTP queries, not just the actual bandwidth. Am I right, Kaelten? |
| 21:35.28 | phyphor | Thrae, you'd only have to mirror changes, and what you'd do is you'd mirror out the change once to "otherserv1" through to "otherserv$foo", and they'd then redistribute it out the thousands of times as required |
| 21:36.21 | Mikk | No, the real problem with wowace files is the serious amount of data being transferred for multimegabyte addons |
| 21:36.30 | Dotted | Thrae 7zip is obsolete paq8hp12 IS DA FUTURE!!! |
| 21:36.33 | Mikk | Embedding causes some of the problems yes |
| 21:36.47 | Mikk | But, really, it's just shitloads of users out there |
| 21:36.48 | Mikk | They cause bandwidth |
| 21:36.50 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, cooldowncount hooks that function, because it has a function to actually hide the cooldown circle thing .. that taints it. |
| 21:36.58 | Dotted | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/10/0055257&from=rss |
| 21:37.11 | Kaelten | its the 200k+ users |
| 21:37.13 | Kaelten | kill them all! |
| 21:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | it shouldn't be hooking that until i enable that function. |
| 21:37.27 | nevcairiel | OmniCC only post-hooks it, and applys its counter |
| 21:37.28 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 21:37.29 | Thrae | Mikk: Hmm, I am 100% sure I remember clad & pasta saying that their reason for opening up files.wowace.com & zipping was to take the stress off all the HTTP queries from SVN usage (-especially- with externals) |
| 21:37.31 | nevcairiel | way ebtter :P |
| 21:37.32 | Kaelten | ~ramboo users |
| 21:37.37 | nevcairiel | *better |
| 21:37.54 | Thrae | Mikk: But the server upgrades since then could have changed that. |
| 21:37.56 | *** join/#wowace Mudkipz (n=Yumm@71-9-79-184.static.hspr.ca.charter.com) |
| 21:38.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster you happen to be the author? :P |
| 21:38.05 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: as I recall, that as the reason yes. But I think things have grown to a point where even that's not enough |
| 21:38.06 | Mikk | Thrae: Yeah, that used to be a problem. You're absolutely correct. HTTP overhead is no longer a problem with files.wowace.com |
| 21:38.07 | phyphor | Kaelten, I don't know who is responsible for the ad code but at the moment it doesn't seem to respect default web browser action (I thought I'd click through in case it helped generate more money) |
| 21:38.08 | clad|away | Thrae: the reason files.wowace.com was created was because the shared hosting provider we were using was shutting down our accounts due to the CPU usage of apache + mod_dav + mod_svn. |
| 21:38.08 | Mikk | Bandwidth is the problem now |
| 21:38.12 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: no |
| 21:38.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster okay |
| 21:38.19 | Thrae | clad|away: Right |
| 21:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | then i have no reason to threaten you |
| 21:38.25 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 21:38.27 | clad|away | this is all pre-server |
| 21:38.31 | Dotted | make WAU2 able to embed libs, but still offer pre-embedded zips (assuming WAU downloading embeds is the sucker here) |
| 21:38.38 | Kaelten | I honestly don't think there are 'problems' |
| 21:38.46 | sag_ich_nicht | because else i would have threatened you with "you sure you want me to use your addon? :P" |
| 21:39.03 | Kaelten | the fact is it costs money to keep the servers up |
| 21:39.07 | Thrae | Kaelten: I thought you were running the server on a decent defecit? That's certainly one problem :D |
| 21:39.20 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 21:39.23 | Thrae | Money solves all problems! Except needing more money. |
| 21:39.30 | sag_ich_nicht | is hshh to be found on IRC? D: |
| 21:39.31 | Trancer | it sucks blizzard can't be involved in this all (and they rightfully shouldn't be) |
| 21:39.32 | |Demone| | art3mis: you seem to be familiar with the pb config..... if you look at velveeta's "cabal target" pic, there is a border... how do i get that? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 <-- link for reference :-D |
| 21:39.33 | Mikk | Dotted: no, embeds isn't the major cause of bandwidth. disembedding WOULD help, some. but, really, there's just shitloads of users out there. we've statted it. |
| 21:39.33 | Kaelten | Thrae: its leveling out |
| 21:39.43 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: havent seen hshh around in a long time |
| 21:39.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i see |
| 21:39.54 | Dotted | Mikk not really talking about disembedding tho |
| 21:40.10 | Antiarc|Work | http://wowace.com/output.html |
| 21:40.14 | Antiarc|Work | That's unique users. |
| 21:40.18 | Fin | haaaaaaaaaaappy birthday to Ominous! |
| 21:40.25 | Antiarc|Work | 300,000 people using WAU in June |
| 21:40.32 | Ominous | Fin: sigh thanks |
| 21:40.43 | sag_ich_nicht | C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns>rm -rf CooldownCount |
| 21:40.43 | sag_ich_nicht | C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns> |
| 21:40.45 | sag_ich_nicht | that was that. |
| 21:41.04 | nevcairiel | i can recommend OmniCC as a replacement :P |
| 21:41.20 | sag_ich_nicht | already done :P |
| 21:41.28 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry for being so annoying nevcairiel :O |
| 21:41.31 | NeoTron | "In-game mail containing money will now have a one hour delay and is no longer instantaneous." |
| 21:41.40 | NeoTron | why the fricking hell did they change that? |
| 21:41.48 | NeoTron | worst most unmotivated change ever I think |
| 21:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | gold sellers |
| 21:41.58 | NeoTron | an hour delay won't stop gold sellers |
| 21:42.06 | sag_ich_nicht | but slow them down |
| 21:42.07 | Fin | Ominous: sigh?! |
| 21:42.07 | NeoTron | it'll just make it a pain to send money to an alt |
| 21:42.09 | sag_ich_nicht | considerably |
| 21:42.12 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron |
| 21:42.13 | NeoTron | not really |
| 21:42.15 | sag_ich_nicht | it's still instant to alts |
| 21:42.20 | Azurewrath | the amount of data Recount creates is so sick.. 12mb for some hours of Vashj tries :) |
| 21:42.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and items are now also instant to alts |
| 21:42.27 | sag_ich_nicht | just cross account has been delayed |
| 21:42.28 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 21:42.31 | Arrowmaster | thats sweet |
| 21:42.38 | Kaelten | thats a trade I can live with |
| 21:42.45 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: doesn't say that |
| 21:42.49 | Arrowmaster | thats a trade everybody can live with |
| 21:42.54 | phyphor | Hmm, yeah, I don't see that listed anywhere |
| 21:42.54 | Ominous | Fin: just what i say when people yell things out about me |
| 21:42.59 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: that's what the forums say tho |
| 21:43.07 | NeoTron | and if that is the case I'm ok |
| 21:43.10 | phyphor | If it said "any mails to alts are instant" then that'd be great but I don't see it |
| 21:43.11 | NeoTron | but still makes little sense |
| 21:43.21 | phyphor | sag, got a link to a blue post? |
| 21:43.31 | NeoTron | because I've had times where I had to lend gold to a guildy so he could respec before a raid |
| 21:43.40 | NeoTron | would have been a lot more painful if you couldn't instant mail gold |
| 21:43.42 | sag_ich_nicht | no, someone linked a thread earlier in #wowi-lounge that had some players report this behaviour |
| 21:43.44 | Xuerian | I just sent mail to a ault and got it instantly O_o |
| 21:43.53 | sag_ich_nicht | see? |
| 21:43.55 | sag_ich_nicht | prove. |
| 21:43.59 | sag_ich_nicht | *proof. |
| 21:44.00 | Trancer | Kaelten: consider the stuff I dumped on wau, a change in distribution could help there |
| 21:44.02 | nevcairiel | thats a good change |
| 21:44.07 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 21:44.16 | sag_ich_nicht | it slows goldsellers in multiple ways |
| 21:44.24 | nevcairiel | finally no latency on my external bank :P |
| 21:44.32 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174502532&sid=1 |
| 21:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | 1. they take longer to transfer money between their "farming" and their "selling" accounts |
| 21:44.35 | Antiarc|Work | It gives GMs a 1 hour buffer to inspect suspicious transactions |
| 21:44.40 | Xuerian | Well |
| 21:44.45 | sag_ich_nicht | that was the second thing i was going to say |
| 21:44.50 | Xuerian | I should've said "I sent gold to a alt and got it instantly" |
| 21:45.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Xuerian try an item |
| 21:45.04 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:46.04 | Fin | KarlThePagan: ping |
| 21:46.07 | NeoTron | "This is working as intended, and unfortunately didn't make the patch notes. Gold and items sent to a character on the same account will now arrive immediately." |
| 21:46.14 | KarlThePagan | Fin, pong? |
| 21:46.27 | NeoTron | s/."/." -- Eyonix"/ |
| 21:46.59 | phyphor | Woo, thanks for the find |
| 21:47.11 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking |
| 21:47.12 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome |
| 21:47.16 | sag_ich_nicht | is all i say |
| 21:47.17 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 21:47.21 | KarlThePagan | yup |
| 21:47.30 | NeoTron | overall the change is possitive |
| 21:47.33 | KarlThePagan | also I heard something about resillience and dots... >.> |
| 21:47.36 | NeoTron | but still kind of a bummer :) |
| 21:47.37 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 21:47.43 | KarlThePagan | I HOPE THATS BECAUSE DOTS START CRITTING |
| 21:47.49 | KarlThePagan | otherwise Kalgan can eat a dick |
| 21:47.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i <3 kalgan |
| 21:48.18 | KarlThePagan | all the +crit on my "pve" raid sets make me ill |
| 21:48.31 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: I'm never playing PvP again if dots start critting...Warlocks w/ Felhunters & Shadowpriests already eat my Druid :D |
| 21:48.49 | Fin | KarlThePagan: how difficult / slow would it be to add a "reinstall all addons" option to WAU2? I used it with the default settings, and it installed all the libraries because of the default noext setting, and the default "install dependencies" setting - but it didn't uninstall all the embeds I have (and Mikk's great script unfortunately misses a few libraries) |
| 21:48.50 | KarlThePagan | Thrae, seriously get 4pc pvp set and learn to kite pls |
| 21:48.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae: but then res works on dots then |
| 21:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | would kind of even it out |
| 21:49.15 | sag_ich_nicht | but i would make the PvE damage of WLs |
| 21:49.17 | Fin | but it's a pain without bugsack :( |
| 21:49.17 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 21:49.18 | sag_ich_nicht | crazy |
| 21:49.37 | KarlThePagan | Fin, addons are deleted as they are updated... so... yes that is possible |
| 21:49.41 | sag_ich_nicht | just esxpand the script |
| 21:49.42 | Antiarc|Work | The problem is, if DOTs and crittable abilities are balanced at 0 resilience, then as resilience increases, DOTs become relatively more powerful |
| 21:49.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it should only be copy paste |
| 21:49.52 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: Well, you know they're going to screw it up and incredibly high Resilience will be needed to get it down to a respectable Crit rate. Which means those who -don't- have much resilience now will be doomed. |
| 21:50.30 | Arrowmaster | i only have 20 resilience =( |
| 21:50.34 | KarlThePagan | Thrae, really... most afflic warlocks and shadow priests are going to be stuck at 10-15% crit for a long time so don't worry too much ;) |
| 21:50.44 | Antiarc|Work | So a druid in my guild and I traded accounts last night to do AV, because we were bored out of our skulls doing it last night on our mains |
| 21:50.46 | phyphor | What might be nice is a import/export list of installed add-ons. So that you could trash and rebuild your entire folder from scratch (and also make it easier to discuss installed addons with friends) |
| 21:50.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc so you violated the ToS |
| 21:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | gh |
| 21:51.06 | sag_ich_nicht | *gj |
| 21:51.07 | KarlThePagan | phyber, good idea - file a feature request pls ;) |
| 21:51.29 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, accounts are passed around in my guild like a Tri Delt at a frat party, sag_ich_nicht :P |
| 21:51.39 | phyphor | (is my name really that hard to spell?) |
| 21:51.47 | Antiarc|Work | And she was on vent saying "Man, rogues really need some kind of out of combat heal. Vanish's cooldown is way too long. wtf, eviscerate sucks", etc etc :P |
| 21:51.51 | sag_ich_nicht | it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt Antiarc |
| 21:51.52 | Thrae | Kaelten: For getting a lot more money, you need more serious fanboys who are serious enough to donate and click on links to help out the cause. And to get that, you need more developers which attract fanboys. So retool that damn SVN ;) |
| 21:51.56 | Antiarc|Work | Meanwhile I'm all "Whoa, I just shredded this mage for 3600 :O" |
| 21:51.57 | nevcairiel | phyphor: nah thats tab auto-complete :P |
| 21:52.02 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r43413 10cgProfiler/ (cgProfiler.toc profile/profile.lua): cgProfiler: Updated addon storage to simpler format |
| 21:52.10 | Kaelten | :P |
| 21:52.20 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: These are mostly all people I know IRL and have been friends with for years :P |
| 21:52.33 | Antiarc|Work | Also, PVPing as an epixed-out class that you have no idea how to play is a hell of a lot of fun :D |
| 21:52.46 | KarlThePagan | phyphor, yes it is :P |
| 21:52.54 | Arrowmaster | wtb my shoulders back kthx |
| 21:52.58 | phyphor | KarlThePagan, where is the place to dump suggestions? |
| 21:53.33 | KarlThePagan | phyphor, http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ click on "submit a bug" and it will get to me |
| 21:54.32 | Thrae | Kaelten: Have you also considered anti-OCD measures for people that need to upgrade like once every 15 seconds? Such as gradually decreasing the amount of bandwidth available to them over a period of time. Testers could then manually register to avoid this limitation. |
| 21:54.56 | Mikk | Thrae: the problem is really only shitloads of users. |
| 21:55.09 | sag_ich_nicht | holy SHIT relational dkp is spammy |
| 21:55.12 | Mikk | Sure, there's some people that'll download every new beta |
| 21:55.19 | Mikk | But, really, they're only a fraction of the bandwidth |
| 21:55.37 | Thrae | Mikk: Right, but if 1,000,000 users upgrade once per day, and 1,000,000 users upgrade twice per day, that's a huge difference. |
| 21:55.48 | Mikk | Yeah, but that's not happening |
| 21:55.56 | Mikk | Granted, you could be proactive to avoid it ever happening |
| 21:55.59 | Mikk | But it's not part of the problem today |
| 21:56.06 | phyphor | KarlThePagan, 'tis done, many thanks |
| 21:56.18 | *** join/#wowace markus_ (n=markus@p5491A404.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:56.22 | Mikk | One thing that might help from "our" side is tagging stable releases though |
| 21:56.27 | phirephly | Back. Sorry lots going on IRL. 7Zip. Got it. I'll go hunt that down. |
| 21:56.28 | sag_ich_nicht | shoop da whoop |
| 21:56.35 | Mikk | If people don't release "stable" so damn often, there'll be less to update |
| 21:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED free. |
| 21:56.38 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: Unforgivable. You're fired! |
| 21:56.39 | phyphor | Err, or it would be if Trac hadn't errorred |
| 21:56.47 | Thrae | Mikk: Which I was trying to get one of the popular devs, ckknight doing, but...uhh...that isn't going to happen it seems ;) |
| 21:57.06 | Thrae | I'm already bugging Kaelten daily to include /tags in the zip script. |
| 21:57.19 | phyphor | Kaelten: Trac detected an internal error: OperationalError: database is locked (this is whilst I was adding a "bug" at Karl's request) |
| 21:57.28 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 21:57.33 | sag_ich_nicht | this might be a really stupid question |
| 21:57.39 | sag_ich_nicht | but how do i copy from the /dtevents frame? :O |
| 21:57.50 | Antiarc|Work | <Print Screen> |
| 21:57.56 | sylvanaar | copythat |
| 21:58.00 | Thrae | ~ckknight |
| 21:58.01 | purl | 05:08 <@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
| 21:58.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: so you want me to print screen 5 pages? :P |
| 21:58.25 | Kaelten | damn trac |
| 21:58.27 | Kaelten | me kill trac |
| 21:58.32 | Kaelten | me kill kill kill kill kill |
| 21:58.35 | Kaelten | ~lart trac |
| 21:58.35 | purl | installs PocketPC on trac's PDA |
| 21:58.35 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.45 | KarlThePagan | phyphor, :( re-submit it pls |
| 21:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:58] <sylvanaar> - /copythat <framename> |
| 21:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [ |
| 21:58.55 | KarlThePagan | trac has issues I guess |
| 21:58.56 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 21:58.58 | sag_ich_nicht | bad copy paste |
| 21:59.09 | sag_ich_nicht | sylvanaar tell me the addon you use for that |
| 21:59.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:59.11 | Thrae | Does Wowace trac have any SVN integration, like "blame"? |
| 21:59.12 | *** join/#wowace Parak (n=profi@user-387hhso.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:59.15 | sylvanaar | copythat |
| 21:59.27 | Thrae | Because Wowinterface's bug portal is very nice. |
| 21:59.29 | *** part/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 21:59.36 | phyphor | Karl > Ticket #1251 :) |
| 22:00.04 | sag_ich_nicht | sylvanaar link? |
| 22:00.10 | phyphor | (although it made me anonymous? I did add an email addy) |
| 22:00.15 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Just the relevant bits |
| 22:00.16 | sylvanaar | files.wowace.com |
| 22:00.51 | KarlThePagan | phyphor, thx ;) |
| 22:01.04 | phyphor | thankyou |
| 22:01.04 | KarlThePagan | yea trac has issues ;) |
| 22:01.18 | Kaelten | Trac's svn integration leads to server death! |
| 22:01.19 | Kaelten | :s |
| 22:01.24 | phyphor | Unfortunately until/unless you need stuff written in FORTRAN I can't really do much coding |
| 22:02.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: i cut out the non-important ones already :P |
| 22:02.27 | sag_ich_nicht | uuuuuuuuunless you want something very specific |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | 03lordjmann * r43414 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Azgalor.lua: |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | BigWigs |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | - Added Rain of Fire |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | - Added Howl of Azgalor |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | - Missing french translations for above abilities |
| 22:02.36 | CIA-22 | - Missing korean translations for above abilities |
| 22:02.38 | Antiarc|Work | I just mostly want to see UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED |
| 22:02.38 | CIA-22 | - This mod has been tested (on a successful kill) |
| 22:03.38 | sag_ich_nicht | arg1 player arg2 Judgement Antiarc |
| 22:03.47 | ravagernl | speaking of bigwigs littlewigs black morass mod is bugged |
| 22:04.08 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, so that does show up then |
| 22:04.42 | *** join/#wowace Galka_____ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-187-216.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:04.49 | yacoob | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHOKTVc1gC0 - now this is *the* good stuff :D |
| 22:05.00 | sag_ich_nicht | since Threat-1.0 is for threat only you will only have to check for that for the 57 base aggro |
| 22:05.22 | ravagernl | yacoob: beggar on ftw |
| 22:05.24 | sag_ich_nicht | otherwise you'd have to check for the presence of the seal buff then when UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED happens with the Judgement go check which seal was up etc. :O |
| 22:05.26 | Fin | Kaelten: is there some sort of automatic blocking of people who use up too much bandwidth on files.wowace.com? |
| 22:05.26 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-136-88.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 22:05.38 | Kaelten | Fin: that wouldn't be nice :P |
| 22:05.49 | Kaelten | I'm not comcast |
| 22:05.55 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 22:05.55 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 22:05.58 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Have you checked Seal of Righteousness in DrD? |
| 22:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc wait |
| 22:06.15 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Fun thought: Have you tested threat from gaining the seal? |
| 22:06.16 | sag_ich_nicht | there are TWO events for the Judgement it seems |
| 22:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check |
| 22:06.33 | Fin | Kaelten: I really think someone should fix this issue with WAU2 btw... it's frustrating as fuck :( |
| 22:06.34 | Antiarc|Work | (buff gains cause threat, including seals) |
| 22:07.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hahahahahaha |
| 22:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 22:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | what happens |
| 22:07.25 | sylvanaar | Fin what is your prob |
| 22:07.33 | sag_ich_nicht | is first UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED player Judgement |
| 22:07.34 | sag_ich_nicht | then |
| 22:07.53 | sag_ich_nicht | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED player, Judgement of Command, Rank 6 |
| 22:08.10 | sag_ich_nicht | in between that is a UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP |
| 22:08.41 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (i=me@i577A362E.versanet.de) |
| 22:09.09 | sag_ich_nicht | then a UNIT_COMBAT target, WOUND, CRITICAL, 577, 1 followed |
| 22:09.14 | Fin | sylvanaar: WAU hung, I'm guessing because the blockery Kaelten mentioned before was put in place, so I tried WAU2 with the default settings - which are to use noext, and install dependencies - which installed all the libraries, but didn't uninstall the embeds I had, and now nothing non-Ace2 works |
| 22:09.35 | sylvanaar | Fin xp? |
| 22:09.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:07] <sag_ich_nicht> is first UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED player, Judgement <--should have looked like this |
| 22:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | forgot the , |
| 22:10.22 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:05] <Gagorian> sag_ich_nicht: Have you checked Seal of Righteousness in DrD? <--nope, lemme check |
| 22:10.26 | Fin | sylvanaar: Windows XP? or you mean, at least I'll learn from the experience? :) |
| 22:10.45 | sbu | Antiarc: mh - heard about problems with omen showing up NOTHING (and threat reporting nothing to other users)? |
| 22:10.51 | sylvanaar | http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html |
| 22:11.05 | Fin | sylvanaar: I'm using Mikk's cleanace.bat script, adding the missing libraries slowly, and reinstalling |
| 22:11.30 | phirephly | Do'T! <smack forehead> I left the "dot lua" off of the TOC entries. Sheesh. |
| 22:11.40 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Yes, when there are multiple conflicting versions of threat installed. I thought I'd killed the bug but I may not have |
| 22:11.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian: damage looks about right, should i check for anything specific? (also are you calculating in the increased crit rate for judgements from the retribution talent?) |
| 22:11.48 | Antiarc|Work | A full addon suite update usually fixes it. |
| 22:12.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc you saw it? 2 events |
| 22:12.27 | *** join/#wowace sergio (n=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
| 22:12.30 | sag_ich_nicht | first one for the judgement |
| 22:12.37 | sag_ich_nicht | then for the specific judgement |
| 22:12.41 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: mhhm... where is threat embedded? |
| 22:12.45 | sbu | omen, pitbull, ...? |
| 22:12.56 | sag_ich_nicht | violation, assesment |
| 22:12.57 | Antiarc|Work | Omen, Pitbull, Violation, Aloft, Assessment, Sphere |
| 22:12.57 | *** join/#wowace Galka_____ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-130-7.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:13.00 | Fin | 23:12 < Fin> Kaelten: is there a "reinstall all addons" in WAU2? |
| 22:13.03 | Fin | 23:13 <@Kaelten> Fin: not yet |
| 22:13.56 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, thanks |
| 22:15.30 | *** join/#wowace Galka______ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-156-173.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:16.38 | sylvanaar | Fin just fix your winsock key http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html |
| 22:17.42 | Fin | sylvanaar: is that why WAU is hanging? |
| 22:17.52 | sylvanaar | Fin prolly |
| 22:18.07 | Rayden | how many times do i have to run BFD in order to get Bite of Serra'Kis to drop? :( |
| 22:18.59 | Rayden | Violation, Aloft, Assessment, Sphere <-- what are those? |
| 22:19.01 | Fin | sylvanaar: has this fixed WAU2 issues for other people? I should read the forum thread, sorry |
| 22:19.04 | Megalon | Rayden: in theory or in reality? :P |
| 22:19.31 | Rayden | Megalon i know enough to know that reality isn't a pleasant number :) |
| 22:19.34 | phirephly | Hmmm |
| 22:19.40 | sylvanaar | wau1 |
| 22:19.53 | phirephly | I'm getting a nil function error on AceLibrary when I try to embed it. Any thoughts? |
| 22:20.05 | phirephly | It worked just fine when I had standalone Ace2. |
| 22:20.33 | Benumbed | calling mod before library is loaded? |
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| 22:20.48 | CIA-22 | 03kilmmax * r43415 10autoLFG/ (autoLFG.lua autoLFG.toc): autoLFG: Bugfix |
| 22:20.52 | phirephly | Maybe. Lemme check. |
| 22:20.54 | nevcairiel | phirephly: it would help to see the full error |
| 22:21.09 | phirephly | I tried to paste it in, but my IRC choked. How would I go about that? |
| 22:21.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:13] <Antiarc|Work> sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, thanks <--np :O |
| 22:21.23 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net |
| 22:21.37 | phirephly | Message: ..\AddOns\GRPMod\GRPMod.lua line 1: |
| 22:21.39 | phirephly | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.43 | phirephly | That worked. Sorry. |
| 22:22.00 | nevcairiel | do you have the Ace Libs in your .toc? |
| 22:22.09 | nevcairiel | before your mods files? |
| 22:22.24 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe... http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone |
| 22:22.28 | poull | Hello everyone. I could use a bit of help as a first time user of svn. I just added my first addon, added externals and when i update the addon they are downloaded correctly, but they aren't included in the zip from files.wowace.com. How do i get them included in this one? :) |
| 22:22.56 | sag_ich_nicht | wait what. |
| 22:22.58 | trh | poull: did you commit the folder after adding externals? |
| 22:23.09 | trh | poull: if yes, wait for files.wowace.com to update |
| 22:23.15 | poull | No, i can try that :) |
| 22:23.33 | phirephly | I didn't before when I was using Ace2 standalone, I added them, remove Ace2 from my loaded modules, and I"m trying to get it to work again. With limited success. I'll keep at it. |
| 22:23.56 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r43416 10SmartRes/: SmartRes: externals |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r43417 10WeaponRebuff/ (8 files): |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:26.05 | Fin_ | stupid screen |
| 22:26.07 | phirephly | Okay, do I do this: GRPMod = AceLibrary("\lib\AceAddon-2.0"):new("\lib\AceEvent-2.0", "\lib\AceConsole-2.0", "\lib\AceDB-2.0") or this: GRPMod = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0") |
| 22:26.21 | Arrowmaster | the second |
| 22:26.22 | phirephly | with embedded Ace2 |
| 22:26.25 | phirephly | Okay. I'll fix it. |
| 22:26.33 | Fin_ | sylvanaar: no joy |
| 22:26.44 | sylvanaar | fin version? |
| 22:26.47 | Fin_ | sylvanaar: the problem, I think, is because there's a JS error on http://files.wowace.com/ads.html |
| 22:26.58 | Fin_ | sylvanaar: latest, downloaded 20 minutes ago |
| 22:27.05 | sylvanaar | js is disabled |
| 22:27.13 | Fin_ | it looks like an IE error report |
| 22:27.22 | sbu | <3 WWS :o |
| 22:27.43 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:27.45 | ckknight | back from work |
| 22:27.54 | Fin | 1.9.25.432 |
| 22:28.29 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: pong |
| 22:28.34 | Fin | An error has occurred on this page: Line 15, Char 1, Error: Object expected, URL http://files.wowace.com/ads.html |
| 22:28.45 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: What are the chances of adding a [GuildNote] tag to DogTag? |
| 22:28.48 | Fin | "Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?" |
| 22:28.52 | Fin | typical IE error message |
| 22:28.52 | ckknight | Margus: here now |
| 22:28.53 | Antiarc|Work | I want to see clever guild notes in tooltips when I mouse over a guild member. |
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| 22:29.01 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: ooh, I like the idea |
| 22:29.05 | sylvanaar | hmm |
| 22:29.13 | Fin | I tried switching to renchap's mirror |
| 22:29.19 | Fin | doesn't seem to make any difference |
| 22:29.22 | Antiarc|Work | That way I can mouse over our tank |
| 22:29.24 | Fin | I'll load IE and disable scripting |
| 22:29.29 | Antiarc|Work | And see "Edagh, Destroyer of Tampons" |
| 22:29.34 | ckknight | lol |
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| 22:29.37 | ckknight | yea, I'm gonna add it |
| 22:29.39 | Antiarc|Work | Woot. |
| 22:30.04 | Antiarc|Work | Also add [OfficerNote] |
| 22:30.05 | sylvanaar | Fin thanks i disabled that error - i misread the setting |
| 22:30.30 | Fin | sylvanaar: you've disabled it locally, or fixed it remotely? |
| 22:30.32 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: You should disable the "Frame Highlight" option when Auras are not enabled in Pitbull |
| 22:31.00 | sylvanaar | Fin, i did it just this very second on my local copy |
| 22:31.02 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: k |
| 22:31.05 | Fin | ah, righto |
| 22:31.24 | Gagorian | Anyone got a retri pally? |
| 22:32.07 | evl | Wee |
| 22:32.12 | evl | Leo down only Vashj left, how hard is she compares to the other bosses? |
| 22:32.32 | Fin | ah |
| 22:32.34 | Fin | Security |
| 22:32.42 | phirephly | Okay, I put it all back to using Ace2 standalone and it works perfectly. |
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| 22:32.55 | phirephly | Can someone walk me through what I have to do to embed Ace2? Please? |
| 22:33.18 | phirephly | I copied the tutorial stuff and it won't recognize AceLibrary() for some reason. |
| 22:33.30 | Fin | sylvanaar: seems to be working now I've disabled scripting in IE |
| 22:33.36 | ckknight | basically, working with just AceEvent-2.0, for example |
| 22:33.51 | ckknight | you want to put the AceEvent-2.0 external into your folder under libs or so |
| 22:33.58 | Antiarc|Work | phirephly: put your .toc contents in a pastey for us |
| 22:34.00 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43418 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: raise shields on errors. |
| 22:34.02 | ckknight | so in your toc, there will be libs/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua |
| 22:34.14 | Fin | sylvanaar: hmm, maybe not |
| 22:34.24 | phirephly | Not \libs\AceEvent-2.0.lua ? |
| 22:34.37 | Antiarc|Work | No, each library should have its own folder |
| 22:34.42 | Antiarc|Work | And you shouldn't need to preceeding slash |
| 22:34.51 | Antiarc|Work | And it's generally cleaner to use forward slashes :) |
| 22:34.56 | Antiarc|Work | (prevents nasty escaping problems) |
| 22:35.12 | phirephly | Do'T! <smack forehead> The example shows that clearly. Too much blood in my alcohol stream. Lemme try again. Sorry. |
| 22:35.14 | ckknight | phirephly: no, as AceEvent-2.0 is a folder which has AceEvent-2.0.lua in it |
| 22:35.15 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: sorry, i meant Frame debuff Hightlight |
| 22:35.36 | Fin | aha |
| 22:35.49 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r43419 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartRes.toc): SmartRes: added zhCN localization |
| 22:35.59 | Fin | sylvanaar: I guess I was right about the WAU<v2 blockery |
| 22:36.08 | Fin | sylvanaar: "has no public versions" for every addon |
| 22:36.45 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: actually if you disable the buff and debuff auras, debuff highlight will not work anymore right? but even if you disable them, the "Frame debuff highlight" is still available; I think the user will tend to think that Pitbull will still highlight the frame, but it doesn't |
| 22:36.46 | sylvanaar | no, those old updaters dont work |
| 22:36.49 | Fin | sylvanaar: WAU1.9 doesn't even load my local list of addons unfortuanately |
| 22:36.55 | ckknight | pb_ee1: should work fine. |
| 22:37.01 | Fin | well... the new ones don't seem to either |
| 22:37.04 | sylvanaar | settle down |
| 22:37.04 | Fin | sadly |
| 22:37.42 | phirephly | Okay, fixed TOC. Gimme a sec and I'll post it. |
| 22:37.52 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: "working as intended" then? ;p I was thiking that it was quite strange that all the other options becomes unavailable except this one (when you disable buffs/debuffs) |
| 22:37.57 | Fin | oh, hey, I didn't mean that as an accusation or nuffin |
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| 22:38.13 | Fin | just frustrated :( only got a couple of hours left to play today until the servers go down |
| 22:38.19 | ckknight | pb_ee1: yea, working as intended |
| 22:38.28 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r43420 10Necronomicon2/Core.lua: |
| 22:38.28 | CIA-22 | Necronomicon2: bugfix when not holding your wang |
| 22:38.28 | CIA-22 | s/wang/wand |
| 22:38.29 | pb_ee1 | Thanks for the info ;-) |
| 22:39.19 | sylvanaar | im pushing a build atm |
| 22:39.40 | phirephly | NVM. I figured it out. Sheesh. You'd think the computer would figure out that when I typed "libs" and there wasn't a "libs" folder but there was a "lib" folder |
| 22:39.49 | phirephly | I really meant "lib" |
| 22:39.58 | Fin | stupid computer |
| 22:39.59 | phirephly | Where is that DWIM button (Do What I Mean) |
| 22:40.21 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:40.32 | phirephly | My best computer programming professor in college said the person who invents a working DWIM button could buy his own island and retire. |
| 22:40.40 | Antiarc|Work | I'm still waiting for a telekenetic interface to my computer |
| 22:40.45 | Antiarc|Work | I want to just be able to think code and have it appear |
| 22:40.57 | phirephly | I got one of those. The interface is arms/hands <grin> |
| 22:41.12 | sylvanaar | Fin there's another build whenever it gets mirrored |
| 22:41.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: that'd never work. The only thing we'd be able to write is porn sites. :P |
| 22:41.17 | phirephly | Okay, not to go get 7Zip |
| 22:41.18 | [Ammo] | leotheras down just before reset yay |
| 22:41.25 | [Ammo] | running butt naked into Vashj with the whole raid |
| 22:41.35 | phirephly | Ah. You need the "I'm an adult" filter for your right hand. <grin> |
| 22:41.37 | [Ammo] | gnome tentacle sex |
| 22:41.39 | charon | the anecdote in the Jargon File tells of a DWIM feature in a shell that read "rm *$" ($ being the backup suffix on that system) and replied "*$ not found, assuming you meant *" |
| 22:42.08 | Fin | sylvanaar: great, thanks |
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| 22:58.32 | NeoTron | so is there a reason in BT or Mt Hyjal why a warlock needs so damn much stamina? |
| 22:58.53 | NeoTron | because it seems as you upgrade tiers of gear, you get very little extra stats but a lot more stamina |
| 22:59.01 | NeoTron | stats = dmg/hit/crit type stuff |
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| 22:59.18 | Kinkx | [2007/07/11 00:59:10-1429-x1]: Grid-42967\GridStatusHeals.lua:117: Roster-2.1: Bad argument #2 to `GetUnitObjectFromUnit'. "npctarget" is not a legitimate UnitID. |
| 22:59.19 | Mikk | mostly everyone needs lots of stam |
| 22:59.20 | Mikk | shitloads of random damage |
| 22:59.46 | Revery | clad you there |
| 22:59.53 | NeoTron | but what is lots of stam - how much HP? |
| 22:59.56 | cladhaire | yep |
| 23:00.01 | NeoTron | 11-12k not enough? |
| 23:00.02 | [Ammo] | Mikk: got my privmsgs? |
| 23:00.07 | Fin | NeoTron: definitely more the a little |
| 23:00.24 | Revery | so i was pointed your way |
| 23:00.27 | Revery | for a questino |
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| 23:00.36 | Revery | which is whats the best IDE for developing addons |
| 23:00.47 | Fin | what is the best IDE for writing poetry |
| 23:00.48 | Antiarc|Work | Notepad++ |
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| 23:00.51 | Revery | i.e. is there a eclipse plugin that works well? is there any ide w/autocomplete |
| 23:00.54 | |Demone| | in and out, in and out |
| 23:00.57 | Revery | for wow wpi |
| 23:00.58 | |Demone| | stupid connection |
| 23:01.07 | Fin | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5463.0 |
| 23:01.08 | NeoTron | I guess in a way I'd consider T5 harder if the set bonuses didn't suck |
| 23:01.20 | Undine | Gagorian, awake? |
| 23:01.28 | NeoTron | t6 and t4 (2 piece esp) are nice. t5 is 2 piece is nice only if you're a demo lock or tank lock |
| 23:01.32 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r43421 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 6 dirs): LittleWigs: re-add ## X-Category: Party now that its fixed |
| 23:01.33 | NeoTron | which afaik is just 1-2 fights period |
| 23:02.48 | Revery | ty fin |
| 23:02.59 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt mind 2pc t5 for arenas |
| 23:03.09 | Revery | i know vim rocks, but was hoping for something w/the api implemented, which scite seems to do |
| 23:03.19 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: which kind of tells you it's a broken set bonus... |
| 23:03.25 | NeoTron | same with druid t5 |
| 23:03.34 | NeoTron | pvp-perfect, horrible for pve - esp pve tank |
| 23:04.04 | Daemoen | ckknight: on the forums, there is a specific layout that I really liked. Have a few questions about it though.. if and when you have some time to take to work with me :-D |
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| 23:04.42 | Antiarc|Work | Revery: Notepad++ is based on Scite |
| 23:04.48 | Antiarc|Work | And has autocomplete functionality |
| 23:04.58 | Fin | SciTE has autocomplete functionality built in |
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| 23:05.01 | cladhaire | Revery: What they all said |
| 23:05.14 | Fin | autocompleteword.automatic=1 |
| 23:05.17 | cladhaire | I personally use emacs with ecb and psvn |
| 23:05.33 | Fin | stick that in your SciTEGlobal.properties |
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| 23:09.19 | Revery | i cant stand emacs |
| 23:09.47 | mikma | i cant stand imacs |
| 23:10.21 | cladhaire | i can't stand fmacs |
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| 23:11.08 | Fin | I can't stand |
| 23:11.20 | Revery | lol |
| 23:11.24 | Revery | maybe you should work on that fin |
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| 23:13.33 | Antiarc|Work | Fin: Any idea how to set that setting for Notepad++, if possible? |
| 23:14.20 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: I'm afraid I've never used Notepad++, but if it's based on SciTE, then I'd assume that there's a .properties file (or the equivalent) somewhere that you could probably just drop that config line into |
| 23:14.27 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. Thanks. |
| 23:14.50 | Fin | OK, dumbo approaching, sorry about this, but I don't quite understand something and I'm hoping somebody might be able to help: |
| 23:15.16 | Fin | I've reinstalled all my addons, and I've installed !!StandAloneLibs, and I don't think I have any libs floating around anymore... |
| 23:15.25 | Mikk | run wau |
| 23:15.58 | Fin | Mikk: that's what I used to reinstall my addons |
| 23:16.20 | Fin | sylvanaar figured out that it was my nonstandard date format settings that was causing an error |
| 23:16.31 | Fin | problems with parsing a date somewhere |
| 23:17.42 | Fin | hmm |
| 23:17.48 | Fin | I'll try deleting addons first and then reinstalling |
| 23:19.30 | Fin | I mean, using the "delete before installing" option in WAU |
| 23:19.44 | Ominous | hmm dosent tattle work with arena names with spaces in? |
| 23:20.18 | sylvanaar | you dont need !!!SAL, just turn on automatic dependencies |
| 23:20.32 | Fin | I have done; I only tried that because reinstalling didn't seem to work |
| 23:21.04 | Fin | I didn't check the "delete before installing" option though, I thought that was what was meant by reinstall, my mistake |
| 23:22.38 | Fin | I must be being stupid somehow, because that didn't seem to work either |
| 23:23.33 | Fin | 1. Surface-1.0/Surface-1.0.lua: 14: Surface-1.0 requires AceLibrary |
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| 23:23.40 | Fin | <-- fick :( |
| 23:24.37 | Ominous | Nymbia: ping |
| 23:25.40 | AKX | Damn you ckknight :( |
| 23:25.49 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 23:25.54 | AKX | Your addons are just too good :| |
| 23:26.08 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:26.18 | ckknight | 1 known bug, though |
| 23:26.20 | Ominous | ~seen Nymbia |
| 23:26.46 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 49m 13s ago, saying: 'WHERE?'. |
| 23:28.40 | Kirkburn | ckknight, zomg, what's that? |
| 23:28.58 | ckknight | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8956/wowscrnshot071007225717yz3.jpg |
| 23:29.01 | ckknight | I'll fix it, though |
| 23:29.09 | ckknight | it's the appearance thing |
| 23:29.15 | Ominous | ckknight: any lead on the mutulate thing |
| 23:29.16 | Kirkburn | The gap? |
| 23:29.20 | ckknight | Ominous: no |
| 23:29.30 | Kirkburn | Oh, now I see |
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| 23:29.48 | ckknight | Kirkburn: no, the differing backgrounds |
| 23:29.56 | Kirkburn | yarr |
| 23:30.18 | quased | Evening gents. I have a question like every other newb that comes stumbling into this channel... |
| 23:30.40 | Antiarc|Work | quased: Well, you see, when a mommy and daddy love each other very much... |
| 23:30.48 | quased | Am I doing something wrong since I can't seem to read anything about anything on the wiki? |
| 23:30.51 | Chompers | very minimalistic interface ckknight |
| 23:30.52 | ckknight | and then they have a "special hug" |
| 23:31.04 | ckknight | quased: wiki crashed |
| 23:31.06 | Antiarc|Work | quased: The wiki DB was lost on Friday - we're rebuilding it |
| 23:31.08 | Chompers | and just one big bag :O |
| 23:31.17 | quased | Fantastic, that'll explain it |
| 23:31.40 | quased | I'll go back to improvising PT3 groups then :o |
| 23:31.45 | quased | Thanks |
| 23:31.56 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 23:31.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i go to bed now |
| 23:32.07 | sag_ich_nicht | good night |
| 23:32.21 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and |
| 23:32.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab ckknight |
| 23:32.28 | purl | ACTION runs at ckknight with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 23:32.30 | sag_ich_nicht | hi ckknight :O |
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| 23:32.51 | Chompers | holy multi-line spam batman! |
| 23:32.54 | Kirkburn | sag_ich_nicht, g'night :O |
| 23:33.02 | phirephly | Got it working! If anyone wants to give it a shot, it's here: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/8443/ |
| 23:33.08 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: why the stabbing? |
| 23:33.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i don't know, but i'm sure you deserved it |
| 23:33.32 | phirephly | That's a tiny little mod that lets you bind a key to a function that will cycle through your toon's known languages. |
| 23:34.00 | AKX | ckknight: Found another bug. For some reason setting the unit tooltip offset (anchored to lower right screen corner) makes the tooltip pop up at screen bottom center |
| 23:34.12 | quased | kewl, if everyone had that we'd be seeing alot more awesome gibberish in /say ^^ |
| 23:34.15 | ckknight | hrm, odd |
| 23:34.44 | phirephly | It's for my RP guild - Tauren only. Mostly it was a learning project so I could familiarize myself with some aspects of Ace2. |
| 23:35.04 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43422 10beql/tracker.lua: beql: - Fixed tooltip quest title detection to include UIScale |
| 23:35.26 | Ominous | who had the datamining script to mine wow-armory for taelent info (not tattle) |
| 23:36.14 | ckknight | phirephly: problem I see with single-race guilds is the lack of classes |
| 23:36.20 | AKX | Also, ckknight: Would it be possible to make the size value only affect unit/unitframe tooltips, not everything? |
| 23:36.41 | phirephly | It's not a power guild. It's mostly just for fun on an RP server (Earthen Ring). |
| 23:36.44 | ckknight | AKX: ah, no. |
| 23:36.52 | AKX | ._. |
| 23:37.02 | AKX | Couldn't you hook it or do something freaky cool like that? |
| 23:37.44 | phirephly | Heorot is an Orc/Hunter/70. He runs <The Bounty Hunters> which IS a raiding guild. Xiakolaat is a Tauren/Warrior/34. He runs <The Herd> an all-Tauren RP guild. |
| 23:39.00 | ckknight | AKX: ...maybe |
| 23:39.10 | Antiarc|Work | Nice, phirephly :) |
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| 23:40.25 | phirephly | Thanks for your help, Ant (and everyone else). I got that mod completed (such as it is). I'm gonna add to it considerably over time, but I posted it on Curse as is, hoping for a few brave souls to grab it and try it. |
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| 23:43.10 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r43423 10beql/tracker.lua: beql: - Fixed Tracker movement with Active Tracker enabled (more smoother, frame jumping fixed) |
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| 23:48.06 | Gagorian | Any retribution pally here? |
| 23:50.07 | phirephly | One question, Ant. How do you get 7Zip to zip the folder without creating a 2nd folder inside the zipped one? None of the mods I've downloaded do that, but mine does. |
| 23:52.27 | phirephly | Nevermind. I figured it out. |
| 23:52.34 | phirephly | Sorry for the dum-dum questions. |
| 23:52.38 | Fin | arg, today is really not my day |
| 23:52.44 | Fin | now WoW is crashing because of some font problems |
| 23:53.00 | Fin | if I can just get... half an hour of actual gameplay in I'll be happy |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r43424 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua Data/Paladin.lua Data/Shaman.lua Melee.lua): |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-22 | - Added paladin seals and remainder of talents |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-22 | - Tested: 1% (at least no syntax errors), Chance of explosion: 85% |
| 23:54.43 | Trancer | :P |
| 23:55.11 | Dotted | only 85% Gagorian? |
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| 23:56.00 | Mudkips | hmm |
| 23:56.34 | Mudkips | patch notes... Fixed a crash triggered by many unit fram Addons. No more crashing in instances during a raid?? |
| 23:57.10 | Gagorian | Dotted: Probably closer to 99% in fact ;) |
| 23:57.19 | Fin | woo, I hope that's PitBull's problem fixed |
| 23:59.17 | Coruss | later folks, hometime |
