| 00:00.09 | Kaelten | Shirik: so you don't like my commits where 15 files get changed? |
| 00:00.22 | Shirik | never! You should do it in 15 commits! |
| 00:00.32 | Shirik | And then everyone will kill you |
| 00:00.38 | Gnarfoz | (I have trouble finding how I'd solve this problem with SmartSVN, btw... can't move further up than the root folder of my project :\) |
| 00:00.42 | Shirik | also having a conversation with you in two different channels at the same time is very difficult |
| 00:01.50 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: those are subfolders to his project i thought? |
| 00:02.07 | Gnarfoz | hm right |
| 00:02.20 | Gnarfoz | I only looked at the first one closely, that one was one level up |
| 00:02.43 | Mikk | But, yeah, to rename several projects, you'd have to check out /trunk |
| 00:02.44 | kergoth | People need to learn to use their damn tools. svn isn't that hard to work with. |
| 00:03.03 | kergoth | svn co -N http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk; cd trunk; svn up --ignore-externals MyAddOn |
| 00:03.13 | kergoth | (-N doesnt recurse, itll check out an empty trunk) |
| 00:03.48 | vhaarr | irrelevant anyway |
| 00:03.52 | Cryect | why learn when you can just complain here and someone tells you the right way ;) |
| 00:03.55 | vhaarr | all the folders were inside his SVN module |
| 00:04.06 | vhaarr | he could've committed them at once even without the trunk checked out |
| 00:04.14 | kergoth | indeed |
| 00:04.15 | vhaarr | Cryect: because he's not here. |
| 00:04.19 | Mikk | yus, we established that |
| 00:04.26 | Cryect | yeah already noticed! |
| 00:04.31 | vhaarr | oh, you "established" that |
| 00:04.33 | vhaarr | well done indeed |
| 00:04.43 | Mikk | and yeah, n00bs should be required to be logged on to IRC for the first bunch of commits |
| 00:04.53 | Mikk | vhaarr: Well fuck you! |
| 00:04.56 | Mikk | :P |
| 00:05.00 | vhaarr | thank you |
| 00:05.01 | vhaarr | lol |
| 00:05.14 | kergoth | noobs should be -required- to do a test commit or 12 in the sandbox before being given svn access, is what it comes down to |
| 00:05.20 | kergoth | we can't trust people to learn otherwise |
| 00:05.25 | MikkZzz | Look at me, I can read commit notes!!!11 |
| 00:05.46 | Mikk | I can read commit notes in my sleep i'm so damn pro |
| 00:05.54 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:06.40 | vhaarr | I believe "not hard" would be the answer |
| 00:06.54 | Mikk | And if their nicks don't match they could get the instruction to /w bot I'm MrCommiter! |
| 00:06.56 | Shirik | Mikk: That would be pretty easy actually |
| 00:07.06 | vhaarr | Mikk: right |
| 00:07.07 | Shirik | I'm not even good with bash scripts and I think I could do it |
| 00:07.17 | vhaarr | Mikk: we already discussed the design months ago |
| 00:07.20 | kergoth | irc isn't a difficult protocol. |
| 00:07.21 | vhaarr | l2read logs imo |
| 00:07.29 | Shirik | it isn't |
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| 00:07.47 | *** part/#wowace Shirik (i=nospam@209-122-217-4.s4.apx1.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com) |
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| 00:08.08 | trh | kergoth: yikes... hard to get the PONG in time ;) |
| 00:08.11 | Mikk | Well, having a bot bounce on and off IRC and /who #wowace isn't exactly The Right Way, so you'd have to have something that runs nonstop |
| 00:08.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:08.15 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 00:08.22 | Mikk | And some comms with it.. prolly through a pipe |
| 00:08.48 | Mikk | Or, bluh, just have it dump a file on regular intervals |
| 00:09.17 | mitch1 | can anyone nudge wowace.com to generate the zips right now? :) |
| 00:09.24 | Mikk | you can wait 11 minutes :P |
| 00:09.28 | Cryect | wait 10 minutes |
| 00:09.49 | kergoth | Mikk, thatd work, or cache the pipe data to ensure you arent causing too much bandwidth with the queries, plus a direct lookup would add latency to the commit |
| 00:10.15 | kergoth | hrm |
| 00:10.32 | Mikk | Anyone up for haxing an irc bot that tracks people seen in #wowace over the past N minutes? |
| 00:10.43 | Mikk | Would need to reconnect etc ofc |
| 00:11.07 | kergoth | could probably steal CIA's python code for it, though it might be overkill with its pool |
| 00:11.15 | trh | Mikk: uh.. aren't there several? |
| 00:11.36 | Mikk | trh: feck knows. been ages since i did irc botting :> |
| 00:11.53 | Mikk | like.. more than 10 years |
| 00:12.56 | trh | hehe |
| 00:13.13 | Shirik | Mikk: Eh, if you can't find one by tomorrow, find me |
| 00:13.14 | trh | i only thought because i was few years ago in a channel that had a bot like that |
| 00:13.17 | Shirik | I'll probably be looking for something to do |
| 00:13.27 | art3mis | mikk: or you could just load an eggdrop with the lastseen tcl ;P |
| 00:13.46 | Mikk | well i was HOPING that someome that knows where to find all the shit could do it in 10 minutes |
| 00:13.51 | Mikk | as opposed to me taking several hours =) |
| 00:14.58 | art3mis | http://www.eggheads.org/ <-- eggdrop downloadie place |
| 00:15.35 | art3mis | http://www.baschny.de/eggdrop/ <- scripts you can add to the above ;P |
| 00:15.39 | art3mis | tada! |
| 00:16.04 | art3mis | i dont have a nix box handy to set it up though ;'P |
| 00:16.45 | art3mis | and im pretty sure that theres a mirc script that does it too |
| 00:17.03 | art3mis | ~seen kaelten |
| 00:17.04 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (3h 34m 15s) #wowace (3h 34m 15s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 7s, last said: 'ya thats annoying imo'. |
| 00:17.18 | Kaelten | ~larg art3mis |
| 00:17.21 | Kaelten | damn |
| 00:17.24 | art3mis | hah |
| 00:17.25 | Kaelten | ~lart art3mis |
| 00:17.25 | purl | throws art3mis's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 00:17.27 | Gnarfoz | failed |
| 00:17.27 | Kaelten | ha! |
| 00:17.34 | art3mis | wait i hate dogs |
| 00:17.36 | art3mis | THANKS! |
| 00:17.40 | Kaelten | damnit! |
| 00:17.50 | Kaelten | anywho, whats up? |
| 00:17.58 | art3mis | mikk wants a lastseen bot ;P |
| 00:18.02 | Shirik | Mikk: Well I know all the, quote, "shit" |
| 00:18.15 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r42807 10UnitActionBars/ (19 files in 9 dirs): |
| 00:18.15 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:18.16 | CIA-22 | - Updated to reference embedded add-ons |
| 00:18.23 | Trancer | WHAT?! |
| 00:18.26 | Trancer | no commit per file?! |
| 00:18.31 | Shirik | pathetic! |
| 00:18.39 | Kaelten | bah you two shut it |
| 00:18.55 | Kaelten | 1 project per commit's the rule :P |
| 00:19.17 | Shirik | how inefficient |
| 00:19.30 | Trancer | ;p |
| 00:19.30 | Gnarfoz | so? he wouldn't have broken that rule even if he had renamed all of his folders at once? :> |
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| 00:19.39 | Kaelten | art3mis: err, well purl does that already |
| 00:19.52 | Shirik | look at all those wasted cpu cycles |
| 00:19.52 | Shirik | should have spread it over time |
| 00:19.53 | Shirik | is it possible to break that rule |
| 00:20.00 | Shirik | I had thought that all addons were in separate branches |
| 00:20.08 | Kaelten | it is possible. |
| 00:20.10 | Mikk | Kaelten: but the SVN precommit scripts can't talk to purl :> |
| 00:20.15 | Cryect | its possible if you read the rules :-p |
| 00:20.19 | Gnarfoz | "." is mighty |
| 00:20.21 | Kaelten | Mikk: lol |
| 00:20.22 | Cryect | though it says don't do it |
| 00:20.25 | Kaelten | what are you trying? |
| 00:20.37 | Mikk | not really TRYING to do anything |
| 00:20.41 | Gnarfoz | he's bored |
| 00:20.42 | Gnarfoz | I gues |
| 00:20.44 | Gnarfoz | +s |
| 00:20.53 | Kaelten | ok... what are you thinking about? |
| 00:20.58 | Mikk | just looking at the tools available for the must-be-in-irc-idea |
| 00:21.03 | Kaelten | oh |
| 00:21.04 | Mikk | seeing how hard it'd actually be |
| 00:21.05 | Kaelten | I have a python bot |
| 00:21.09 | Shirik | I also hate how my question mark only works 50% of the time |
| 00:21.17 | Kaelten | I just havn't launched him in here yet |
| 00:21.20 | Mikk | oh |
| 00:21.24 | Mikk | kewl =) |
| 00:21.30 | Kaelten | I want to replace CIA with him |
| 00:21.47 | Mikk | Well, we gave CIA a stress test today |
| 00:21.52 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:21.54 | Mikk | CIA borked out horribly |
| 00:21.55 | Mikk | no commit lag |
| 00:21.58 | Kaelten | what was that? |
| 00:22.20 | Kaelten | ya but I do like the service and would love to have a bot that worked all the time |
| 00:22.24 | Kaelten | or at least most of the time. |
| 00:22.32 | Mikk | mhm |
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| 00:22.50 | Mikk | and yeah, i suppose the other reasons for CIA are null and void as of Trac working |
| 00:23.05 | Kaelten | well I'm going to replace trac eventually too |
| 00:23.06 | Kaelten | :) |
| 00:23.21 | Mikk | key word being "replace", not "toss out" :P |
| 00:23.38 | Kaelten | but it'd be no big deal to have a rss feed based on the bot's messages |
| 00:24.05 | kergoth | hmm, the arkinventory guy needs to add a feature to show how many of the item you're mousing over is in your other chars banks/bags, since it tracks that info |
| 00:24.22 | ben | kergoth: There is another Addon that does that, I believe? |
| 00:24.22 | Shirik | well I do you a favor, after work tomorrow if you still haven't come up with a solution |
| 00:24.24 | Mikk | Actually, the RSS feeds could be a hell of a lot better than what Trac produces atm |
| 00:24.48 | Shirik | I've been wanting to test out my understanding of the IRC protocol and that would be an easy way to try the basics |
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| 00:25.22 | trh | kergoth: bagnon does that btw ;) |
| 00:25.29 | Trancer | trying to write a SVN commitbot? |
| 00:25.49 | Shirik | sure |
| 00:25.55 | Trancer | if you give a start coding it.. Perl has POE::IRC, it's quite okay |
| 00:26.03 | Shirik | actually, it wouldn't be a bot |
| 00:26.05 | Trancer | not sure if Python or alike has any libraries, I code most of my bots in Perl |
| 00:26.20 | Shirik | well, I guess if you want it to make messages, it has to be a bot too |
| 00:26.31 | Shirik | Trancer: Yeah but you're missing the one important point, I've never made anything practical in Perl |
| 00:26.36 | Shirik | I've only recently gotten into it |
| 00:26.37 | Trancer | preferably, if you put it on a client it gets messy and hard to identify |
| 00:26.42 | Trancer | Shirik: so? :p |
| 00:26.44 | Shirik | despite me knowing a ton of other languages, Perl isn't something I've touched really |
| 00:26.47 | Trancer | Shirik: I didn't code any perl before 6 months ago |
| 00:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | No one makes anything practical in perl. You just try to make things one line long. ;) |
| 00:27.00 | Shirik | But see this is why I want to try it :) |
| 00:27.03 | Trancer | Shirik: and I made a full fledged spam collecting botnet using SSL + PgSQL/MySQL and all kind of junk |
| 00:27.04 | Shirik | haha |
| 00:27.28 | Mikk | well, said bot would have to be able to do 3 things: |
| 00:27.49 | Mikk | 1. Keep track of people that have been in the channel recently ("recently" to avoid problems with netsplits n stuff) |
| 00:27.52 | NightHawkTheSane | What kind of bot are you guys trying to make, anyway? |
| 00:28.05 | Kaelten | I already have the basis of a python bot guys :P |
| 00:28.14 | Mikk | 2. Accept "I'm <foo>" messages for cases when irc nicks and svn usernames don't match up |
| 00:28.28 | Mikk | 3. Take input data off a pipe and shove it into the channel |
| 00:28.32 | Mikk | ^ Baibai CIA |
| 00:29.03 | Shirik | why do you say "recently" ? |
| 00:29.14 | Shirik | why not "currently" |
| 00:29.22 | Shirik | I'm missing the point of "problems with netsplits" |
| 00:29.32 | Mikk | because if i end up on the other side of the bot when the net splits, i still want to be able to commit |
| 00:29.39 | kergoth | trh, i know, so does sanity, but baggins doesnt categorize, and sanitybags isnt polished yet |
| 00:29.46 | Shirik | oh, so you wouldn't see the message |
| 00:29.47 | kergoth | er, bagnon doesnt categorize |
| 00:29.48 | kergoth | silly fingers |
| 00:29.49 | Shirik | but everyone else would |
| 00:29.56 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: sanity2? *shrug* |
| 00:29.56 | Mikk | and the bot would think i'm offline |
| 00:29.58 | mitch1 | hehe, I started wow without any addons so that I can check if my embedded stuff works. damn, the default interface is ugly! :) |
| 00:30.13 | Shirik | I think the logical solution to that is to watch for netsplits, not "recently" |
| 00:30.23 | Shirik | and then do something like a 24 hour timeout since the netsplit |
| 00:30.30 | kergoth | yea, guess i might just put sanity2 back in |
| 00:30.31 | Mikk | unless the bot got booted off as a result of the split |
| 00:30.35 | Trancer | Shirik: what is the purpose of ~seen if you don't track who has been around lately?:p |
| 00:30.48 | Shirik | from either side of the split it'll appear the same |
| 00:31.09 | Trancer | seen modules are nasty pieces btw |
| 00:31.30 | Mikk | anyway, i fail to see the need for woohoo-gotta-be-on-this-second security |
| 00:31.48 | Shirik | hm, well |
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| 00:32.41 | *** part/#wowace mikktest (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 00:33.03 | Kaelten | I'm still wondering if we even want to require irc activity for commits at all |
| 00:33.14 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.15 | Mikk | yer that's the biggest question ofc |
| 00:33.31 | Mikk | Well, the common good would be to tell devs when they're doing something silly, and teach em to do it better |
| 00:33.36 | Mikk | Which totally doesn't happen now |
| 00:33.52 | Trancer | I find it useful, you know if certain bugs got fixed etc. |
| 00:33.54 | abug | forums? |
| 00:33.56 | Shirik | how about this |
| 00:34.03 | Shirik | a precommit script that watches log messages |
| 00:34.07 | NightHawkTheSane | The only reason it'd be useful is when someone makes a seemingly stupid commit and the people here whinge about not being able to talk to the person on irc. |
| 00:34.09 | Mikk | I cba to post on a forum to notify a guy I don't even know reads the forums >.< |
| 00:34.10 | Shirik | and cancels the commit if you've done the same message like 10 times in a row |
| 00:34.31 | Mikk | Shirik: that'd prevent vhaarr from committing 90% of the time :P |
| 00:34.32 | Trancer | Shirik: and then what? :p |
| 00:34.43 | Trancer | better to just throttle that in the bot |
| 00:34.47 | Shirik | he can stop being stupid and commit more correctly, that's what :) |
| 00:34.50 | Trancer | instead of on the SVN |
| 00:34.54 | Shirik | but, I have a different solution on the bot |
| 00:35.01 | Mikk | Shirik: That's hardly the only problem one would hope to help out with |
| 00:35.16 | Shirik | instead of requiring irc activity, why not just allow people (perhaps +/@ only?) to squelch certain usernames |
| 00:35.23 | vhaarr | Mikk: pf |
| 00:35.44 | abug | or do what trancer said and queue the commits? |
| 00:35.48 | vhaarr | ckk is far worse than me on commit notes |
| 00:35.51 | Shirik | I missed that |
| 00:35.54 | abug | commit messages that is |
| 00:35.55 | Mikk | this is true |
| 00:35.56 | NightHawkTheSane | You all are pretty bad at times. :P |
| 00:36.08 | Shirik | My commit messages are paragraphs :P |
| 00:36.11 | Mikk | Anyway |
| 00:36.12 | Shirik | but nobody ever sees them |
| 00:36.16 | vhaarr | Shirik: nub |
| 00:36.16 | Mikk | The problem here isn't bot spam |
| 00:36.30 | vhaarr | Shirik: lern2use wowace SVN |
| 00:36.47 | Shirik | that means I have to move everything over |
| 00:36.50 | Shirik | that means I have to do work |
| 00:36.52 | Shirik | work is bad |
| 00:37.02 | Kaelten | Shirik: we'd be glad to have ya :) |
| 00:37.09 | Mikk | The gain would just be telling people that they're doing something silly and could be doing it better |
| 00:37.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: It's a trap! |
| 00:37.10 | vhaarr | Shirik: what, like 2 minutes work? |
| 00:37.18 | Shirik | that's 2 minutes more than I want to do! |
| 00:37.21 | vhaarr | ~cookie Shirik |
| 00:37.31 | Mikk | If this is unnecessary amounts of commits, screwing up externals, doing work they needn't be doing cause they could use a lib, ... whatever |
| 00:37.37 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 00:37.42 | Shirik | that was odd |
| 00:37.47 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 00:37.47 | vhaarr | Shirik: haha, you see? |
| 00:37.54 | vhaarr | "the one thing I hate doing is nothing" |
| 00:37.56 | NightHawkTheSane | owned. |
| 00:37.57 | vhaarr | now get to work! |
| 00:38.00 | Shirik | well that's from ~shirik |
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| 00:38.08 | Shirik | but how did that get confused with ~cookie shirik |
| 00:38.14 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:38.17 | Shirik | what is ~cookie anyway |
| 00:38.18 | Kaelten | ~cookie Mikk |
| 00:38.19 | Mikk | ~cookie mikk |
| 00:38.23 | Mikk | damnit |
| 00:38.25 | vhaarr | lol |
| 00:38.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ~literal cookie |
| 00:38.26 | purl | "cookie" is "<action>gives <who> a cookie" |
| 00:38.32 | vhaarr | it's me. |
| 00:38.34 | vhaarr | I'm magic. |
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| 00:38.43 | Kaelten | ~cookie vhaarr |
| 00:38.50 | vhaarr | oO |
| 00:38.50 | Shirik | wow. |
| 00:38.54 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 00:38.56 | Mikk | ~literal cookie $1 |
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| 00:39.08 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 00:39.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i broke purl! woo! |
| 00:39.16 | trh | ~beer |
| 00:39.17 | purl | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 00:39.26 | Mikk | whoeps |
| 00:39.27 | Kaelten | ~lart NightHawkAtWork |
| 00:39.27 | purl | throws NightHawkAtWork's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 00:39.34 | NightHawkTheSane | .... mydoggy! |
| 00:39.55 | abug | purl, eat me |
| 00:39.55 | purl | ACTION eats abug and falls over dead |
| 00:40.11 | Mikk | "~cookie" just pulls out a random factoid with the search phrase in it, it seems |
| 00:40.16 | Funkeh` | [You] Mind Blast crits [Death Talon Wyrmguard] 10650 |
| 00:40.17 | Mikk | ~cookie unitframe |
| 00:40.20 | Shirik | interesting |
| 00:40.36 | mitch1 | okay, I'm satisfied. RangeDisplay is release quality :) |
| 00:40.46 | mitch1 | nighty night |
| 00:40.51 | Mikk | mm |
| 00:40.52 | Mikk | nn |
| 00:41.02 | Kaelten | ~purl vhaarr |
| 00:41.03 | purl | [vhaarr] the fastest updater in the west. |
| 00:41.16 | Shirik | btw, for the record, Cidan's commit messages are just as bad |
| 00:41.22 | trh | i wonder who's the fastest one in the east ;) |
| 00:41.35 | Kaelten | ~trh |
| 00:41.53 | Kaelten | ~emulate trh |
| 00:42.00 | Shirik | "Bug fix to the queue queue" |
| 00:42.01 | Kaelten | purl, you're gay |
| 00:42.02 | purl | so are you |
| 00:42.03 | Shirik | best commit message ever. |
| 00:42.18 | Kaelten | lol, some of mine havn't been that great either |
| 00:42.19 | Shirik | remove "the" |
| 00:42.55 | Shirik | Revision: 230 Author: cidan Date: 8:24:29 PM, Saturday, February 10, 2007 |
| 00:42.55 | Shirik | Message: Bug fix to queue queue. |
| 00:42.55 | Shirik | Modified : /RDX/SyncCore.lua |
| 00:42.56 | Shirik | =) |
| 00:43.00 | Shirik | anyway, must go get a donut |
| 00:45.20 | Trancer | Funkeh`: for shit and giggles, try that with Shadow Word: Death when the mob isn't near dead yet ;P |
| 00:45.22 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42808 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Fix inviting the guild when you're solo. |
| 00:45.27 | Trancer | Funkeh`: our shadowpriests killed themselves a few times :P |
| 00:45.42 | Shirik | shadow word: death is great in combination with prayer of mending :) |
| 00:45.51 | Funkeh` | Trancer: 1 steap ahead of you |
| 00:45.58 | Funkeh` | step* |
| 00:46.00 | Trancer | :p |
| 00:46.02 | Funkeh` | had 100hp left ;) |
| 00:46.03 | Shirik | so many times I throw it on the tank and it jumps back to me, shadow word: death does some dps and lets it jump back |
| 00:46.15 | Trancer | Shirik: yeah, but not if the mobs have 300% damage modifier and you almost kill yourself |
| 00:46.16 | Trancer | Funkeh`: :P |
| 00:46.24 | Shirik | dododo |
| 00:46.25 | Shirik | that would suck |
| 00:46.35 | Shirik | well still my sw:d only hits for 700 normally so... |
| 00:46.38 | Trancer | oh it does :P |
| 00:46.40 | Shirik | 2100? |
| 00:46.44 | Funkeh` | its too ahrd not to |
| 00:46.49 | Funkeh` | you wanna see big numbers! |
| 00:47.06 | Trancer | Shirik: a shadowpriest with that is scarier, yes |
| 00:47.13 | Shirik | hehe yeah |
| 00:47.17 | Shirik | not a shadowpriest |
| 00:47.19 | Trancer | Shirik: although with crit it could still become nasty, shouldn't kill you though ;-) |
| 00:47.40 | Trancer | I like soaking netherspitse blue beam as lock |
| 00:47.44 | Shirik | #char Kimina Drenden |
| 00:47.44 | Trancer | 9k hits are pretty |
| 00:47.51 | Shirik | I fail I think :( |
| 00:48.07 | Trancer | a priest should be able to kill himself there |
| 00:48.17 | Funkeh` | its char, us/eu server name |
| 00:48.18 | Gagorian | Shirik: add eu or us |
| 00:48.27 | Shirik | it should assume US, because obviously we're the best |
| 00:48.36 | Funkeh` | lol... |
| 00:48.38 | Gagorian | I disagree. |
| 00:48.45 | Kalman| | Trancer: Ohhh yes you can. I've nailed myself with a 12k hit before after blue beam. |
| 00:48.46 | Shirik | obviously that was sarcastic :P |
| 00:48.53 | Funkeh` | you all suck, imo |
| 00:48.54 | Shirik | #char Kimina us Drenden |
| 00:48.54 | Trancer | Kalman|: :P |
| 00:49.00 | Shirik | I give up |
| 00:49.06 | Funkeh` | us before kimina |
| 00:49.07 | Gagorian | #char us kimina Drenden |
| 00:49.07 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 00:49.09 | Kalman| | Well, the damage dealt back to you is magical, so... |
| 00:49.29 | Kalman| | Not only do you get the damage dealt bonus, but the damage taken multiplier too. |
| 00:49.31 | Trancer | as lock blue beam is just fun |
| 00:49.33 | Gagorian | ThraeBot: Ok, you suck |
| 00:49.39 | Trancer | throw up some dots and go stand there draining life |
| 00:49.40 | Funkeh` | server then nickname |
| 00:49.41 | Chompers | i'm trying to get the most out of my character, but i don't feel like i'm doing enough damage, can anyone take a look at my armoury profile? |
| 00:49.45 | Trancer | nightfall procs and kaboom |
| 00:49.51 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r42809 10UnitActionBars/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:49.51 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:49.51 | CIA-22 | - Updated to make LayoutBar not external |
| 00:49.54 | Trancer | Chompers: linkie? |
| 00:49.57 | Chompers | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Chomps |
| 00:49.57 | Gagorian | I don't know if Kimina or Drenden is server tbh |
| 00:49.59 | Gagorian | :D |
| 00:50.04 | Shirik | drenden is server >< |
| 00:50.11 | Shirik | #char us Drenden Kimina |
| 00:50.12 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 68 Blood Elf Priest (24/35/0). 4126 HP; 5713 Mana; 137 Sta; 234 Int; 217 Spi; 210 Armour; 63 mp5; 3.52% dodge; +94 spell crit rating; 196 +spell dmg; 697 +heal. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Drenden&n=Kimina |
| 00:50.18 | Trancer | oh warrior, no clue about those, sorry |
| 00:50.20 | Gagorian | When blizzard ran out of ideas for names they just made up random shit |
| 00:50.26 | Trancer | you raiding with that Chompers? |
| 00:50.39 | Trancer | you might want some more +hit if so |
| 00:50.46 | Chompers | yeah, guilds only arms warrior |
| 00:50.51 | Shirik | so yeah, as you can see above |
| 00:50.56 | Shirik | not so much sw:d damage |
| 00:51.09 | trh | can anyone tell me what's the difference between "upgrade" and "update"? =) |
| 00:51.12 | Trancer | #char eu Turalyon Luiza |
| 00:51.13 | ThraeBot | Trancer: Luiza, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (29/21/11). 9157 HP; 8134 Mana; 543 Sta; 376 Int; 132 Spi; 1273 Armour; 4.47% dodge; +12.52% spell hit; +166 spell crit rating; 1030 +spell dmg; 900 +heal; +129 frost dmg (1159); +129 shadow dmg (1159). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Luiza |
| 00:51.25 | Shirik | =( |
| 00:51.28 | Shirik | a warlock has more +heal than me |
| 00:51.32 | Trancer | :P |
| 00:51.32 | Shirik | pardon me while I /wrists |
| 00:51.32 | starlon | What's the difference between Sanity2 and SanityBags? |
| 00:51.43 | starlon | Is one a library? |
| 00:52.03 | NightHawkTheSane | no, just different addons |
| 00:52.10 | Trancer | trh: in general or svn related? |
| 00:52.12 | Codayus | A bit late I know, but: Affliction locks + netherspite blue beam = so much fun... |
| 00:52.18 | trh | Trancer: general |
| 00:52.19 | *** join/#wowace Bloodspirit (n=Administ@0x55508c2f.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 00:52.31 | Trancer | update is typically making an adjustment to a running versions |
| 00:52.34 | Trancer | a minor adjustment |
| 00:52.46 | Trancer | upgrade is a radical change that requires a new version level etc. |
| 00:52.50 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r42810 10UnitActionBars/filelist.wau: |
| 00:52.50 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:52.50 | CIA-22 | - Removed LayoutBar from embedded modules. |
| 00:52.54 | trh | Trancer: ok :) thanks |
| 00:52.56 | starlon | Hmm. Their descriptions are similar, written by Antiarc, and updated around the same time. o.O |
| 00:52.56 | syeren | #chat eu Dentarg Ausmara |
| 00:53.00 | syeren | Aww :( |
| 00:53.10 | Trancer | #char not #chat :P |
| 00:53.14 | syeren | Oh shit :p |
| 00:53.18 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:53.19 | syeren | #char eu Dentarg Ausmara |
| 00:53.21 | ThraeBot | syeren: Ausmara, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (28/33/0). 11201 HP; 9720 Mana; 799 Sta; 492 Int; 171 Spi; 2433 Armour; 64 mp5; 5.38% dodge; +449 resilience; +1.19% spell hit; +5.38% ranged crit; 69 +spell dmg; 1231 +heal; +10 frost resist. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dentarg&n=Ausmara |
| 00:53.23 | Shirik | I think it's too late for most of us |
| 00:53.32 | Codayus | The hard part is convincing them to stop DPS before the transition. A DoT cast with a full stack of blue beam buffs makes Netherspite just LURV you. |
| 00:53.38 | Trancer | zomg +10 FrR |
| 00:53.46 | abug | #char us Zul'jin Laforge |
| 00:53.47 | ThraeBot | abug: Laforge, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/3/58). 7569 HP; 9368 Mana; 126 Str; 459 Sta; 446 Int; 122 Spi; 3255 Armour; 54 mp5; 4.59% dodge; 8% block; +114 spell crit rating; 566 +spell dmg; 595 +heal; +43 nature dmg (609). || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zul'jin&n=Laforge |
| 00:54.05 | syeren | Oh, check this... |
| 00:54.26 | NightHawkTheSane | starlon: they're just different styles of bag addons, sanitybags is a more traditional bag addon, though it's got a few issues right now. Sanity2 is very different, and a good compliment to any other bag addon |
| 00:54.50 | syeren | #char us Korgath Schmity |
| 00:54.51 | ThraeBot | syeren: Schmity, Level 70 Human Warrior (35/23/3). 10884 HP; 647 Str; 662 Sta; 251 Agi; 10119 Armour; 9.12% dodge; +34 resilience; 5% block; 1966 AP; 793 RAP; +30.88% melee crit. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Schmity |
| 00:54.56 | syeren | Best equipped warrior in the world. |
| 00:54.59 | syeren | Fucking SICK >_< |
| 00:55.06 | starlon | NightHawkTheSane: Thanks |
| 00:55.15 | Trancer | 10884 hp? I got 10884 hp if I want :P |
| 00:55.25 | sbu | syeren: hm :o |
| 00:55.29 | Mikk | with 31% crit and 2k ap? |
| 00:55.33 | syeren | Unbuffed. |
| 00:55.36 | syeren | Completely unbuffed. |
| 00:55.36 | Gnarfoz | depends on what spec |
| 00:55.37 | Trancer | I got 384 AP on my warlock! |
| 00:55.39 | sbu | hmhm |
| 00:55.49 | Trancer | (bloody fish in Karazhan, die!) |
| 00:55.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: you can see his spec in the text, arms/fury :P |
| 00:55.59 | Mikk | fish? |
| 00:56.02 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkAtWork: sigh |
| 00:56.03 | Mikk | oh, manasperms |
| 00:56.04 | sbu | #char eu Khaz'Goroth Beliac |
| 00:56.05 | trh | Mikk: those eels |
| 00:56.05 | ThraeBot | sbu: Beliac, Level 70 Undead Warrior (17/44/0). 10024 HP; 426 Str; 576 Sta; 185 Agi; 8390 Armour; 7.55% dodge; +93 resilience; 5% block; 1786 AP; 827 RAP; +29.69% melee crit; +10 shadow resist. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz'Goroth&n=Beliac |
| 00:56.08 | Trancer | the magic immune ones |
| 00:56.09 | sbu | mh okay |
| 00:56.10 | *** part/#wowace Bloodspirit (n=Administ@0x55508c2f.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 00:56.16 | Trancer | next on my wishlist is Malchazeen |
| 00:56.18 | sbu | you win ;p |
| 00:56.22 | trh | is that a mana worm in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? :P |
| 00:56.22 | Antiarc | Interesting. |
| 00:56.23 | Trancer | I already got worgen claw and the epic prince cloak |
| 00:56.32 | Mikk | I think all casters should carry some "of the Bandit" cloth greens to kara :> |
| 00:56.39 | Trancer | Mikk: there are none :~( |
| 00:56.42 | sbu | syeren: but its not that far away ;o |
| 00:56.43 | Mikk | >.< |
| 00:56.44 | syeren | sbu, when this guy is in his PVP gear, he had 35% chance to crit with mace spec and 1768 AP unbuffed. |
| 00:56.44 | Trancer | Mikk: I have tried.. can't find any |
| 00:56.49 | Mikk | meh |
| 00:56.51 | syeren | With something like 14k HP. |
| 00:56.53 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkAtWork: I'm not stupid you know, I meant the "best equipped" part, because warriors are not all arms/fury |
| 00:56.56 | Codayus | I brought a feral druid staff to Kara a couple times as a joke. Had a lot of strength. |
| 00:56.57 | Trancer | Mikk: I got the epic ring of underbog though and a green 60 AP ring |
| 00:57.06 | Mikk | haha woo =) |
| 00:57.14 | Trancer | Mikk: and I got that haste trinket from Mechanar.. and the neck from Bota |
| 00:57.14 | sbu | syeren: its pve gear ;o |
| 00:57.14 | Mikk | hmm.. there's some agi on the postmaster set |
| 00:57.15 | Codayus | (As a holy priest) |
| 00:57.19 | Trancer | Mikk: zomg! |
| 00:57.24 | Mikk | =) |
| 00:57.25 | Antiarc | #char us Cenarion Circle Adrine |
| 00:57.26 | ThraeBot | Antiarc: Adrine, Level 70 Human Rogue (20/41/0). 9764 HP; 624 Sta; 391 Agi; 3037 Armour; 21.96% dodge; +61 resilience; 1478 AP; 1317 RAP; +27.36% melee crit. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion Circle&n=Adrine |
| 00:57.29 | Trancer | time to farm. |
| 00:57.39 | syeren | I know it is sbu, that isn't his PVP set up :p |
| 00:57.39 | Antiarc | Needs +hit |
| 00:57.44 | trh | #char eu Aegwynn Vane |
| 00:57.45 | Trancer | Mikk: oh btw |
| 00:57.45 | Antiarc | And that caught me in my PVP gear |
| 00:57.46 | ThraeBot | trh: Vane, Level 70 Orc Hunter (7/45/9). 8534 HP; 6553 Mana; 474 Sta; 436 Agi; 230 Int; 5927 Armour; 72 mp5; 11.99% dodge; +98 resilience; 1732 AP; 1949 RAP; +27.46% ranged crit. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=Vane |
| 00:57.49 | sbu | syeren: but okay, you cant see ~280 hit here... |
| 00:57.49 | trh | that's awesome :) |
| 00:57.50 | sbu | so mh |
| 00:57.50 | Trancer | Mikk: if your casters have fising 375.. |
| 00:57.57 | Trancer | get them to use their fishing rod on the fish |
| 00:58.01 | Trancer | fishing rod + lure = weapon skill |
| 00:58.08 | Trancer | 445 weapon skill > fish |
| 00:58.20 | Trancer | (using shit lure) |
| 00:58.31 | syeren | Sbu, he uses 2hander, so he is almost hit capped :p |
| 00:58.45 | sbu | mhyep |
| 00:59.06 | sbu | but imo dw fury > ms for pve ;o |
| 00:59.11 | Chompers | that Schmity guys got less +hit than me |
| 00:59.14 | Chompers | :O |
| 00:59.24 | trh | Antiarc: first time i got more +crit than a rogue ;) |
| 00:59.28 | syeren | Doesn't matter, doesn't need it, and hits a ton load healer :P |
| 00:59.34 | syeren | *harder. |
| 00:59.41 | syeren | Would dread coming across that in Arena >_> |
| 00:59.43 | Antiarc | trh: That's in my PVP gear >_> |
| 00:59.54 | trh | Antiarc: in my flying gear ;) |
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| 00:59.57 | Antiarc | ie, stam heavy |
| 01:00.12 | trh | Antiarc: and with viper aspect, got 29% crit usually ;) |
| 01:00.18 | Antiarc | 42% in raids :D |
| 01:00.22 | trh | Antiarc: ouchy |
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| 01:00.41 | Mikk | Trancer: oooohhh =) |
| 01:00.45 | Trancer | mhmhm.. crit.. hmhmh.. bad~ |
| 01:00.49 | Trancer | Mikk: works wonders :D |
| 01:00.56 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r42811 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:00.56 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 01:00.56 | CIA-22 | -use calculation.actionSchool instead of baseAction.School to check if School is Ranged |
| 01:00.56 | CIA-22 | -multiply action.PerCombo by cp - 1 instead of cp |
| 01:00.56 | CIA-22 | -changed Paladin Crusade talent for future localization |
| 01:00.56 | CIA-22 | -changed Rogue Murder talent for future localization |
| 01:00.58 | CIA-22 | -added Hunter data, not complete |
| 01:01.00 | Mikk | Thanks for the tip =) |
| 01:01.02 | Trancer | Mikk: and that fishing rod from that quest, the seth one, hits quite hard |
| 01:01.05 | Antiarc | I also run 310 hit in raids, so that cuts into my crit budget >_> |
| 01:01.07 | Mikk | Yeah |
| 01:01.35 | Trancer | quite fond of the draenei with their 1% hit |
| 01:01.44 | Bam__ | If I want to reduce the "brightness" of a color, would I just subtract the same number from each of the RGB-values? Or is there a better way? |
| 01:01.50 | Mikk | Bam__: correct |
| 01:01.55 | Bam__ | cheers |
| 01:02.07 | Mikk | Bam__: well.. actually, you should multiply/divide with the same number |
| 01:02.08 | trh | Trancer: it's imbalanced that's a aura :( |
| 01:02.17 | Trancer | trh: hehehe |
| 01:02.22 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: it does wonders for your dps though, crit is less important than hit ^^ |
| 01:02.25 | Trancer | but but.. horde has ehm.. |
| 01:02.26 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 01:02.28 | Trancer | mana tap *lol* |
| 01:02.33 | Antiarc | combat potency FTW |
| 01:02.34 | Bam__ | yea was about to say... that would produce the same results no matter the original color? |
| 01:02.41 | trh | Trancer: yay.. 200 mana every 2 minutes or something ;) |
| 01:02.45 | Mikk | Oooh, wait, Seth's pole + WF totem... |
| 01:02.50 | trh | Trancer: although the aoe silence is nice |
| 01:02.51 | Trancer | Mikk: :DDDD |
| 01:02.57 | trh | Trancer: (for pvp) |
| 01:02.59 | Trancer | trh: for raiding perspectives it's pretty useless |
| 01:03.27 | Trancer | Mikk: the battle elixir stuff is a shame.. can't pop onslaught any longer (well.. can.. but costs stuff) |
| 01:03.40 | Mikk | yeah =/ |
| 01:03.43 | Trancer | I really need malchazeen :p |
| 01:03.47 | trh | Trancer: yea.. like always.. alliances gets the pve stuff, horde the pvp stuff... still envying dworf priests |
| 01:03.50 | Trancer | then I have 400 AP |
| 01:03.50 | Mikk | But strength of earth and BoM should be nice |
| 01:04.04 | Trancer | trh: shamans were better though for raiding, imho |
| 01:04.14 | trh | Trancer: nope |
| 01:04.17 | sbu | Trancer: rogue? |
| 01:04.26 | Trancer | me? no, warlock :P |
| 01:04.29 | trh | Trancer: only if you need DPS and aggro doesn't matter |
| 01:04.44 | Trancer | trh: yeah, well BoK was a little weird balanced, true |
| 01:04.57 | Trancer | but I hate the whole blessing junk |
| 01:04.58 | trh | Trancer: BoS was the biggest difference |
| 01:05.04 | Trancer | lack of flexibility, shamans are great utility |
| 01:05.05 | sbu | oh 400 ap okay, thought something else... |
| 01:05.06 | sbu | wtf ;p |
| 01:05.21 | Trancer | sbu: magic immune fish in kara, I got an AP set >:P |
| 01:05.23 | Arrowmaster | now that i have BoS on my warlock i dont even have to try and watch my aggro most the time |
| 01:05.26 | sbu | lol |
| 01:05.30 | Trancer | trh: well that got fixed with tranquil air.. 'fixed' though |
| 01:05.40 | trh | Trancer: and the lay on hands/shield also made a big difference |
| 01:05.41 | Trancer | Arrowmaster: dps harder :P |
| 01:05.41 | Mikk | yeah no kidding. |
| 01:05.44 | trh | Trancer: not really |
| 01:05.45 | Mikk | tranquil ~= BoS |
| 01:05.48 | trh | Trancer: it's just for one group |
| 01:05.54 | Trancer | yeah that's why I said 'fixed' |
| 01:05.55 | trh | Trancer: not for the whole f* raid |
| 01:05.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ta totem was always crap. |
| 01:05.59 | Arrowmaster | tranquil air is something that horde dps never got to see |
| 01:05.59 | Trancer | it's also sucky for a tank group |
| 01:06.13 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r42812 10UnitActionBars/ (15 files in 13 dirs): |
| 01:06.13 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 01:06.13 | CIA-22 | - Re-enabled Bar layout as external. Made embedded modules all non-LOD |
| 01:06.26 | Trancer | used it on encounters where "more dps was nice" |
| 01:06.32 | Trancer | ebonroc and the junk alike |
| 01:06.40 | Trancer | but then it still sucked |
| 01:06.46 | Arrowmaster | melee always got the shamans |
| 01:06.48 | trh | Trancer: it was nicest on broodlord :) |
| 01:06.54 | Trancer | grr. broodlord |
| 01:07.01 | Trancer | I played horde and alliance, both locks |
| 01:07.06 | Mikk | haha |
| 01:07.07 | Mikk | self-SS ftw |
| 01:07.13 | Trancer | my horde guild had such a stupid strategy there.. had to take the stupid knockbacks, bah |
| 01:07.18 | Arrowmaster | i think i killed broodlord like maybe twice after getting 8/8 nemesis |
| 01:07.30 | Trancer | I never got 8/8 nemesis due to zerosum dkp :P |
| 01:07.39 | Trancer | not a big loss though, set wasn't that good imho |
| 01:07.41 | Arrowmaster | we used zerosum |
| 01:07.48 | Trancer | myeah, I was one of the laggards |
| 01:07.53 | Arrowmaster | i had the most earned out of everybody |
| 01:07.56 | Trancer | had -400 DKP or so after joining the guild (reroll) |
| 01:08.07 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 01:08.07 | sbu | <3 EPGP |
| 01:08.18 | Gnarfoz | wasn't the new character screen supposed to take talents into account? |
| 01:08.19 | Trancer | we now just have a /roll ffa loot system |
| 01:08.24 | Arrowmaster | also had the highest dkp when we stoped raiding, so i guess i got the most screwed |
| 01:08.49 | Trancer | Arrowmaster: heh, not like there were so many lock upgrades (unless you went deep into naxx) |
| 01:09.01 | Arrowmaster | only did mc and bwl |
| 01:09.42 | Trancer | never got neltarion </ |
| 01:09.51 | Trancer | oh, try BWL at 70 btw, good fun |
| 01:10.04 | trh | guess its easy with 70? =) |
| 01:10.08 | Trancer | yeah :D |
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| 01:10.11 | Trancer | we went there with 30 70's |
| 01:10.14 | Trancer | and some 65's |
| 01:10.21 | Arrowmaster | i got our only neltharion's |
| 01:10.25 | Trancer | razorgore is bugged, his adds dont stop spawning :p |
| 01:10.28 | Trancer | even if you kill him |
| 01:10.30 | trh | i mean the tanks could prolly tank with getting healed by healing stream totems and some adds ;) |
| 01:10.31 | Trancer | we just aoed them all |
| 01:10.41 | trh | err. some dots |
| 01:10.44 | Trancer | well... the bosses are still boss level (73) |
| 01:10.52 | Trancer | so.. armor level is the same etc |
| 01:11.05 | Trancer | but yeah, it's not a lot of work :p |
| 01:11.08 | trh | oh.. so boss level is always MAX_LEVEL + x? |
| 01:11.13 | Trancer | yeps |
| 01:11.16 | Trancer | x = 3 |
| 01:11.17 | NightHawkTheSane | er, not quite. |
| 01:11.17 | Mikk | not really |
| 01:11.21 | Cryect | for some stuff only misses... |
| 01:11.23 | Mikk | they your level + 3 |
| 01:11.49 | NightHawkTheSane | the boss flag only really a few things, not armor, or damage, iirc |
| 01:11.51 | Arrowmaster | doesnt that make 4horsemen harder at level 70 then? |
| 01:11.59 | Trancer | no no NightHawkTheSane, not the mobs armor |
| 01:12.01 | Cryect | Yeah armor isn't one of the things that is effect |
| 01:12.09 | Trancer | NightHawkTheSane: but it hits you as a level 73 mob, mitigating your armor like level 70 |
| 01:12.09 | subbawt- | yeah it's just for the purposes of crushing/glancing blows and miss rates |
| 01:12.13 | Shirik | the level only goes into calculations |
| 01:12.16 | Mikk | doesn't affect armor, damage output, health ... |
| 01:12.19 | Shirik | like mitigation, etc. |
| 01:12.21 | Cryect | bosses still hit you like they are 63 |
| 01:12.33 | Trancer | they hit for the damage of 63, but they calculate armor as 73 |
| 01:12.40 | Mikk | yeah |
| 01:12.41 | Cryect | no they calculate armor as 63 |
| 01:12.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 01:12.49 | Trancer | armor of the mob yes, armor of you, no :P |
| 01:12.54 | Cryect | no armor of you |
| 01:13.01 | Cryect | when they hit you is calculated as 63 |
| 01:13.04 | Trancer | hmm.. afaik it's like a level 73 mob is smashing on you |
| 01:13.15 | Kalman| | Only wrt crushing blows. |
| 01:13.23 | Cryect | Its been shown armor is the exact same |
| 01:13.27 | Cryect | razorgore was tested |
| 01:13.29 | Trancer | I do know that golemagg hurts on cloth |
| 01:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | As noted, the boss flag only affects crushing/glancing/misses |
| 01:13.32 | Cryect | with lvl 60's and lvl 70's |
| 01:13.45 | Cryect | and same armor amounts were shown to be the same damage |
| 01:13.45 | Trancer | (at 70) |
| 01:13.56 | Trancer | hmm okay, interesting |
| 01:14.05 | Cryect | there is a thread on EJ forums if you really feel like searching |
| 01:14.13 | Trancer | trh: anyway, give it a go, it's good fun |
| 01:14.35 | Trancer | depression room is actually funny with all the warlock SoC now.. with a bit of luck you also pull Chromaggus through the wall |
| 01:14.38 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: hm, 310 is overkill is it not? 300 should be enough, right? (300=19,02 + 5 via talents) |
| 01:14.41 | Mikk | anyway... the boss level just means that bosses suddenly don't start missing 90% of swings against the tank like trash does |
| 01:14.42 | trh | Trancer: don't think my guildmates are up to it... we even failed at doing MC for fun ;) |
| 01:14.49 | Mikk | and that you actually have to have some +hit to hit him all out |
| 01:15.07 | Trancer | trh: ah, we have it as a guild event (run old shit) |
| 01:15.15 | Trancer | we post on the realm forums to take along friends |
| 01:15.17 | Antiarc | You need like 320 to never miss, I think |
| 01:15.22 | Trancer | next up is Naxx |
| 01:15.24 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 01:15.26 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 01:15.26 | Trancer | ZG was very amusing |
| 01:15.36 | Gnarfoz | I forgot the level difference for bosses did I not |
| 01:15.46 | trh | hehe.. you could do the ZG trash with 5 people when you were 60 |
| 01:15.53 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 01:15.54 | trh | so i guess you can 4man the whole instance now ;) |
| 01:16.00 | Gnarfoz | how much does that factor in? |
| 01:16.02 | Trancer | trh: hakkar in 90s with 13 70's |
| 01:16.07 | Antiarc | Gotta go though :D |
| 01:16.11 | Antiarc | So back later. |
| 01:16.12 | trh | Trancer: lol.. 90s |
| 01:16.17 | Trancer | trh: before drain :P |
| 01:16.28 | subbawt- | Mikk: i did it at 60 on a frost mage, completely naked :P |
| 01:16.30 | trh | Trancer: i wonder how tough he is if you kill him without killing the other bosses, so he still got his buffs |
| 01:16.33 | Trancer | I remember some friends of EJ cockblocking on Hakkar |
| 01:16.34 | subbawt- | (in game) |
| 01:16.39 | Trancer | trh: EJ tried that, they got him to 1% |
| 01:16.43 | Mikk | subbawt-: cheating bastard =) |
| 01:16.47 | Cryect | they did that at 60 also |
| 01:16.53 | Trancer | Cryect: yeah, that's what I mean :P |
| 01:17.07 | Cryect | heh well you left out that part so figured I better add it :-p |
| 01:17.11 | Trancer | bliz said it was impossible, well they were close :p |
| 01:17.30 | subbawt- | I watched that video |
| 01:17.34 | trh | Trancer: they tried with 70? |
| 01:17.39 | Trancer | trh: no, level 60's |
| 01:17.45 | Trancer | trh: at 70 it would be a joke anyway |
| 01:18.06 | Trancer | aspects are not much work though, we nuked bat boss in 20 seconds |
| 01:18.11 | Mikk | "can one of the ferlols swipe tank the boss adds pl0x?" |
| 01:18.20 | Trancer | Mikk: :P |
| 01:18.39 | subbawt- | I heard a 70 warrior solod the panther boss |
| 01:18.51 | Trancer | should be quite doable I think |
| 01:19.03 | Trancer | panthers are level 58 or so? |
| 01:19.09 | subbawt- | I have access to a well geared prot warrior, I should try it. |
| 01:19.12 | Trancer | if you can keep her busy enough |
| 01:20.02 | Trancer | I liked hakkar pre-nerf |
| 01:20.13 | Trancer | some guild on skullcrusher tanked him with 10 mechanical yeti's |
| 01:20.16 | subbawt- | he was easier o_O |
| 01:20.20 | trh | Trancer: rofl |
| 01:20.31 | subbawt- | the fight was kind of silly |
| 01:20.36 | Trancer | he was a joke :p |
| 01:20.40 | trh | the hexxer was a pain in the ass |
| 01:20.42 | subbawt- | we didn't even DPS him |
| 01:20.45 | Trancer | go in, nuke, loot epix |
| 01:20.56 | subbawt- | just sat there and let him kill himself with the poison |
| 01:21.05 | Trancer | hdh |
| 01:21.16 | Trancer | reminds myself of a trick EJ pulled on Lethon(?) |
| 01:21.20 | Trancer | shadow reflect his debuff |
| 01:21.26 | Trancer | the one that reaps your hp |
| 01:21.29 | Trancer | or ws that emeriss, hmm |
| 01:21.30 | trh | subbawt-: we too... we just always got adds and killed them =) |
| 01:21.38 | subbawt- | that was lethon |
| 01:21.42 | Trancer | dragon killed himself |
| 01:21.50 | Mikk | and stick a pet in front of the raid to get rid of the MC problem |
| 01:21.51 | Mikk | ftw |
| 01:21.51 | subbawt- | err |
| 01:22.00 | subbawt- | unless you could reflect the disease on emeriss |
| 01:22.04 | Trancer | subbawt-: I mean the -25% -50% -75% -100% one |
| 01:22.05 | subbawt- | that did 100% of your total health |
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| 01:22.09 | Trancer | yeah that one subbawt- |
| 01:22.12 | Trancer | it was reflectable |
| 01:22.17 | Trancer | got hotfixed within 24h :P |
| 01:22.23 | Mikk | hehe |
| 01:23.04 | subbawt- | emeriss was a nightmare if you were being griefed |
| 01:23.27 | Trancer | yup |
| 01:23.33 | Trancer | well kazzak can be troublesome as well |
| 01:23.35 | trh | all outdoor bosses were |
| 01:23.38 | subbawt- | we kited her down the road in feralas with a "main assist for alliance" |
| 01:23.49 | subbawt- | that worked pretty well |
| 01:23.56 | Trancer | I played on a PvP server for 1 year or so.. Kazzak with 14 high end raiding guilds on a PvP server was not fun |
| 01:24.09 | trh | Trancer: alot of fun :) |
| 01:24.11 | Trancer | Last Resort always fighting Method (they were on the same server back then) |
| 01:24.17 | subbawt- | trh: well all the people had to do on emeriss was die :P |
| 01:24.18 | Trancer | and then the alliance went in ganking |
| 01:24.28 | Trancer | trh: I've amused myself muchly :p |
| 01:24.32 | trh | subbawt-: on kazzak too =) |
| 01:24.36 | subbawt- | horde on mal'ganis had alliance alts |
| 01:24.39 | subbawt- | to grief eachother with |
| 01:24.49 | Trancer | haha |
| 01:25.00 | trh | subbawt-: and on azuregos it was good enough to just focus the MT for a few seconds with a few people.. and bam.. other raid wiped ;) |
| 01:25.18 | Trancer | we always took out healers on azuregos |
| 01:25.27 | Trancer | much more fun / frustrating |
| 01:25.28 | trh | Trancer: that worked to =) |
| 01:25.33 | subbawt- | stealth rogue with a mind control cap |
| 01:25.39 | Trancer | haha |
| 01:25.45 | trh | subbawt-: lol |
| 01:25.48 | Trancer | that was so awesome on Saurfang in Orgrimmar |
| 01:26.11 | Trancer | some rogue kept killing a rank 14 with that trick |
| 01:26.18 | Thorgard | Anyone know if there's any recent 'crash' issues with any mods or due to Blizzard bugs, etc? |
| 01:26.32 | trh | Thorgard: unitframes |
| 01:26.43 | Thorgard | trh, that's still an issue? |
| 01:26.44 | Shirik | that's not a crash |
| 01:26.49 | Shirik | that's just a lockup |
| 01:26.51 | trh | Thorgard: yep.. until 2.1.3 |
| 01:26.54 | Thorgard | Ah. |
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| 01:27.06 | Shirik | but to answer your question, 'recently' no, but they do exist |
| 01:27.24 | Shirik | also exist non-blizzard, non-author bugs |
| 01:27.28 | trh | do nonexistant fonts still crash the client? |
| 01:29.49 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r42813 10UnitActionBars/ (App.lua UnitActionBars.toc): |
| 01:29.49 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 01:29.49 | CIA-22 | - Update to force version sync |
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| 01:41.42 | rophy | since TBC is it possible to switch the default action bar on press? like switch to page 2 on holding alt+ctrl |
| 01:42.45 | Wobwork | don't most of the barmods have that? |
| 01:43.20 | rophy | may be, but i only want to add that to the default bars |
| 01:43.33 | rophy | any existing addon does that? |
| 01:43.51 | Wobwork | hm, not that I know of |
| 01:44.02 | Wobwork | most of them don't stop at that and just redo the works |
| 01:44.10 | rophy | hmm :\ |
| 01:44.31 | abyssichate | Is anyone a Proximo user? |
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| 01:50.59 | RogueShadow | abyssichate: Not I, I don't play Arena atm. |
| 01:51.09 | RogueShadow | abyssichate: Not useful, but I thought I'd respond anyway. |
| 01:51.21 | abyssichate | Yeah, thanks anyway, I was wondering if it is a replacement for Gladiator, somehow |
| 01:51.30 | abug | what's 49-6? I need to make a wiki account :P |
| 01:52.14 | Mikk | lal |
| 01:52.24 | Mikk | ask google :P |
| 01:52.28 | NightHawkTheSane | God, I really effing hate html forms. |
| 01:52.37 | NightHawkTheSane | form layouts are seriously the most fucked up thing ever. |
| 01:53.06 | syeren | abyssichate, I am :p |
| 01:53.23 | abyssichate | Does it have the same functionalities as Gladiator, syeren? |
| 01:53.59 | syeren | Apart from the information from armory stuff, yes :p |
| 01:54.04 | abyssichate | alright |
| 01:55.05 | RogueShadow | wow, looks like Dr Damage has had a lot of work oday |
| 01:55.07 | RogueShadow | today |
| 01:55.43 | Thorgard | Dr Damage just took some steps towards even more awesomeness. |
| 01:55.44 | Mikk | hanging out with a lowbie in org is having weird effects |
| 01:55.51 | Mikk | i've earned several gold helping create guilds |
| 01:56.01 | Mikk | i've got a free kit of lvl10 greens from a passersby |
| 01:56.05 | Mikk | and i just now got free enchants |
| 01:57.08 | RogueShadow | Mikk: Coding? That can be totally fun!!! |
| 01:57.17 | RogueShadow | Just you wait, someday I'll start coding.... someday. |
| 01:57.22 | RogueShadow | I bet I'd be good at it. |
| 01:57.37 | NightHawkTheSane | 50/50 says you wont. :P |
| 01:58.01 | Kaydeethree | hahahaha... got talked to by the cops for setting off fireworks |
| 01:58.11 | Jagobah | Anyone here really good with setting up an lua environment? |
| 01:58.24 | Kaydeethree | editor or interpreter? |
| 01:58.36 | Jagobah | interpreter |
| 01:58.57 | Kaydeethree | I think a lot of people use cogwheel's environment on sourceforge... lua511wow or something like that |
| 01:59.01 | RogueShadow | NightHawkTheSane: why do you say that? |
| 01:59.40 | Jagobah | ooooh this is a good start |
| 01:59.41 | Jagobah | one sec |
| 01:59.45 | NightHawkTheSane | RogueShadow: ... because, er.. its true? I mean, there's 50% chance you'll be better than average, and a 50% chance you'll be worse than average, in a vacuum at least. :P |
| 02:00.08 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42814 10DragLib/: |
| 02:00.08 | CIA-22 | DragLib: A library for managing drag&drop operations of frames and data objects, inside addons as well as between addons. |
| 02:00.08 | CIA-22 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DragLib |
| 02:00.48 | RogueShadow | NightHawkTheSane: Too true, I'll accept your answer. Because you don't know me very well. :) |
| 02:00.57 | RogueShadow | And of course I would suck for a while. |
| 02:01.53 | RogueShadow | And I don't have a lvl 70. |
| 02:02.01 | Mikk | General hint: if you scored below 115 on your last iq test, don't bother |
| 02:02.19 | RogueShadow | Never had an IQ test. |
| 02:02.30 | Moltarain | interseting ppl saying that you dont get any benefit from disabling blizz default UI. then say. how come i get like +160fps if i disable it... ? (some nasty hacks yes...) |
| 02:02.31 | RogueShadow | But I got A's in math. |
| 02:02.35 | abug | there's one on wowace, part of the account creation |
| 02:02.38 | Moltarain | interesting |
| 02:02.40 | RogueShadow | Loved physics |
| 02:02.46 | RogueShadow | But that was 3 years ago. |
| 02:02.47 | RogueShadow | :( |
| 02:02.50 | Wobwork | abug: I so wish there was |
| 02:02.56 | Mikk | Sounds like 115+ territory yeah :> |
| 02:02.57 | RogueShadow | I'm sad. I wish I could have physics class everyday. |
| 02:03.12 | Mikk | Really good programmers tend to clock in at 130+ |
| 02:03.16 | Mikk | >.< |
| 02:03.24 | Wobwork | I've never done an IQ test |
| 02:03.32 | Wobwork | what sort of questions do they ask? |
| 02:03.35 | RogueShadow | When we started complex numbers in trig, I said "yay". Then the teacher thought that was odd. everybody laughed a bit. |
| 02:03.39 | abug | depends on the IQ test |
| 02:03.47 | Wobwork | Sounds... standardised =P |
| 02:04.33 | RogueShadow | my brain is underused lately. |
| 02:04.36 | RogueShadow | I need to exercise it |
| 02:04.53 | Wobwork | crosswords |
| 02:04.53 | syeren | ckknight, just do Aura display before Parrot :( |
| 02:04.56 | RogueShadow | I've never played a wow class as substandard? does tha ttell you anything? |
| 02:05.08 | Wobwork | you're a perfectionist? |
| 02:05.21 | Wobwork | go for the more... interesting builds =) |
| 02:05.22 | Mikk | Most IQ tests tend to work with logical sequences of figures |
| 02:05.25 | abug | you're a monkey with pellets? |
| 02:05.26 | Mikk | http://www.iqtest.dk/ is one such |
| 02:05.33 | RogueShadow | o iqtest |
| 02:05.52 | abug | WAIS is one such test |
| 02:06.23 | abug | math/verbal/history/putting pictues in order/memory |
| 02:07.14 | abyssichate | what should history have to do with one's IQ? |
| 02:07.27 | abug | I have no idea really, I got asked about Catherine the great |
| 02:07.57 | abug | and what is the world population |
| 02:11.37 | CIA-22 | 03eblume * r42815 10GuildMail/GuildMail.lua: |
| 02:11.37 | CIA-22 | GuildMail: |
| 02:11.37 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.37 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:13.17 | Mikk | if a test is asking you for historical details and whatnot, it's not a proper IQ test afaik |
| 02:13.22 | Mikk | it's called something else |
| 02:13.35 | Mikk | decidedly _related_ mind you |
| 02:13.48 | Wobwork | >< |
| 02:14.04 | Wobwork | doing an iq timed test while at work is... not very productive |
| 02:14.10 | Mikk | haha |
| 02:14.17 | Mikk | you'll end up using the full 40 minute stoo |
| 02:14.28 | Mikk | you _will_ get stuck on a few |
| 02:14.32 | Mikk | unless you're 135+ |
| 02:16.13 | Moltarain | 135+ is low ;) |
| 02:16.21 | Mikk | ya, rly :P |
| 02:16.44 | Mikk | (for people not in the know: 130+ and you can go apply to Mensa) |
| 02:16.52 | Moltarain | actually it is. you know that any test cant messure the real potential of ppl |
| 02:17.25 | Mikk | well, that test is comparatively short. only 40 questions. so it's not going to be accurate for high scorers. |
| 02:18.19 | trh | i did a iq-test when i was like 10 years =) |
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| 02:19.09 | abug | the history questions may have been extra questions that didn't count |
| 02:19.24 | trh | imo a real iq test shouldn't feature question based on knowledge |
| 02:19.34 | Mikk | correct |
| 02:19.51 | Mikk | since that brings upbringing and nationality and whatnot into the measure |
| 02:20.12 | trh | yeah.. and doesn't measure intelligence, only how good you can remember things |
| 02:20.42 | Mikk | well.. there's another type of test too... i forget the name.. some type of general assessment ... |
| 02:21.08 | Mikk | you take raw IQ, estimated lingual capabilities, memory capacity, and "common knowledge" and try to score it |
| 02:21.20 | Mikk | the scale used is the same as the IQ scale |
| 02:22.13 | Mikk | most people will end up having roughly the same scores |
| 02:22.24 | Mikk | but an idiot savant could get 150+ raw IQ and sub-100 on such an assessment |
| 02:23.00 | Moltarain | I have an extremly hard time to concentrate on on thing, this makes it hard for me to get stuff finnished. But i can open a book, read few lines and i know what the rest of the book says (if have read it before). Still i need an trigger to acces it. |
| 02:23.30 | Moltarain | so if i do a test and have read it before, i can score 100% |
| 02:24.05 | Lyfe | photographic memories, eh? |
| 02:24.16 | Mikk | not really, just good memory |
| 02:24.20 | Moltarain | nah not realy |
| 02:24.30 | Arrowmaster | you usually dont answer every single question on an iq test when you have a real person supervising it and asking you the questions |
| 02:24.48 | Arrowmaster | but only a few from a very large selection of questions |
| 02:25.09 | Wobwork | aptitude test? |
| 02:25.25 | Mikk | yeah they'll hover around your capacity limit to try to get an accurate reading with as few questions as possible |
| 02:25.47 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42816 10DragLib/ (5 files in 2 dirs): DragLib: Initial commit. |
| 02:26.27 | Mikk | Wobwork: that sounds familiar |
| 02:26.59 | starlon | Is there an alternative location for the ALT directory? Like if WoW can't write to the normal place, does it choose somewhere else? |
| 02:27.08 | Arrowmaster | for some of the things they test on iq tests theyll have a lot of similiar but slightly different questions, stuff like heres an image now arange these blocks to look like it as fast as you can |
| 02:27.45 | abug | curse those red blocks |
| 02:27.54 | Mikk | red & white! |
| 02:27.59 | abug | yeah damn them |
| 02:29.42 | Wobwork | hm |
| 02:29.54 | abug | did you take it for testing the presence of a learning disorder? |
| 02:29.55 | Wobwork | I'm going to donkey the last few questions |
| 02:30.00 | Arrowmaster | the part i always messed up on was the simple math questions, i never really memorized the multiplication tables |
| 02:30.03 | Wobwork | since I don't have time to sit and figure it out |
| 02:30.06 | Mikk | abug: establishing consequences of burnout |
| 02:30.48 | Moltarain | i dont need to memmo anythin related to math :) it just "popS" :P |
| 02:31.54 | Wobwork | huh |
| 02:31.55 | Wobwork | 122 |
| 02:32.02 | Mikk | nb, donkeying the last few |
| 02:32.06 | Mikk | Also not surprising |
| 02:32.29 | Wobwork | I might try it again later when I have more time |
| 02:32.31 | Arrowmaster | i took precalc my sophomore year of highschool yet i still always take forever doing stuff like multiplication and division in my head |
| 02:32.44 | Mikk | Half the coder force @ work would get into mensa if they applied :S |
| 02:32.55 | Mikk | Liking programming seems to require a certain base IQ :P |
| 02:33.01 | Wobwork | hehe, mental arithmetic is now a job dependancy for me |
| 02:33.13 | Wobwork | www.mathletics.com.au <-- where I work |
| 02:34.06 | Moltarain | wen i went to "high" scool my family where poor so i had to live without any fancy TI calc. that way i learned a lot of nice trix to handle large numbers in my head. |
| 02:34.31 | Mikk | haha nice one :P |
| 02:35.36 | Arrowmaster | i got shit from the teacher that year when i took 2 years of math classes in 1 year from the same teacher, passed both and even got the highest final grade without ever doing homework or projects |
| 02:37.08 | Moltarain | well i did score 98% on the year exam in math so =) and there we werent allowed to use any calc at all. and i remmeber it just because my teacher told me that all others where below 50% and tehy complained a lot on the fact that we wherent allowed to use hardware.. |
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| 02:38.16 | abyssichate | Geniuses everywhere! |
| 02:38.37 | Arrowmaster | most the stuff i did required graphing calculators |
| 02:38.40 | Moltarain | well its not like that realy, its just that i did learn it realy good. |
| 02:40.58 | harldephin | why do i see lowered target levels when drunk, though levels actually haven't changed oO |
| 02:41.13 | harldephin | maybe being drunk isn't that good after all -.- |
| 02:42.06 | Arrowmaster | im not sure but i think i heard that when your drunk and target levels look lower, they actually are for hit/miss/resist checks |
| 02:42.42 | harldephin | hm |
| 02:44.43 | Moltarain | night all, cya |
| 02:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Huh, that iqtest was rather neat. |
| 02:48.14 | Wobwork | what did you score? |
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| 02:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ~135 |
| 02:49.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Not that I'm taking that as any kind of absolute measure, but it's interesting. |
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| 02:53.33 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r42817 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:53.33 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 02:53.33 | CIA-22 | -Simp. Chinese update |
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| 02:55.39 | Wobwork | 很好！ |
| 02:58.45 | abug | is the wiki being vandalized? |
| 02:59.00 | abug | by spongebob related characters? |
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| 03:00.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: I'd have a nonsensical chinese retort, if i were less lazy. |
| 03:00.46 | dylanm | abug: Oh my. So it is. |
| 03:01.02 | Wobwork | hm, nonsensical chinese retort eh? |
| 03:01.05 | abug | that makes me angry, I don't like spongebob |
| 03:01.40 | Wobwork | 我的马的妈 |
| 03:02.29 | Wobwork | Spongebob is an abomination |
| 03:02.32 | Wobwork | almost on par with Barney |
| 03:03.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: oh, yeah? well ぼぎざば! |
| 03:04.21 | NightHawkTheSane | (yes, thats not chinese, but i said i was lazy.. :P ) |
| 03:04.51 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r42818 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Attumen.lua Malchezaar.lua): BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 03:06.20 | Wobwork | It's true |
| 03:06.32 | Wobwork | You could have at least used kanji so I could work out roughly what you were saying =P |
| 03:07.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Meh, too lazy for kanji |
| 03:08.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I just popped open my japanese kana palette and clicked a few buttons. |
| 03:11.56 | NightHawkTheSane | have i mentioned how much i hate html forms? |
| 03:12.26 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r42819 10BigWigs/SC/ (Hydross.lua Karathress.lua Morogrim.lua): BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 03:13.05 | Wobwork | not yet. |
| 03:13.08 | Wobwork | but go right ahead =) |
| 03:13.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i fucking hate html forms. |
| 03:13.55 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, its not so much the forms, as trying to get them into a nice looking layout. |
| 03:14.31 | trh | with css it's ok |
| 03:14.44 | NightHawkTheSane | no, see.. css is what causes half the problems. |
| 03:14.55 | abug | move is a nice tool for wowace wiki vandals |
| 03:15.05 | trh | although i hate that somes browsers still make paragraphs at </form>, others don't |
| 03:15.07 | Wobwork | forms are the problem |
| 03:15.14 | Kaydeethree | bah. /tabs open wowwiki RC |
| 03:15.15 | Wobwork | css is a helper |
| 03:15.27 | Wobwork | but it still doesn't make making forms easy =P |
| 03:15.30 | NightHawkTheSane | its the interaction of the two, really. |
| 03:16.01 | trh | i usually end up making a table with the form fields and use css for nice looks... |
| 03:16.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Forms arnt so bad, and css is nice, but when you try to combine them into a nice looking layout, it's a real pain to get things right where you want in a way that is reasonably dynamic. |
| 03:16.14 | Wobwork | actually the worst thing of all is the requirement to do all sorts of stupid tricks for crossbrowser compatibility |
| 03:16.27 | Wobwork | although it's gotten better |
| 03:16.45 | NightHawkTheSane | True, but I typically just say "fuck browser compatibility" and code to standards. |
| 03:17.23 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: good luck with the first customer complaining that 60%+ of his potential clients can't view the page properly :P |
| 03:17.44 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: this is my personal site, so people can complain all they want. :) |
| 03:17.57 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: in that case - best viewed with telnet button :P |
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| 03:19.45 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: hehe, most of my past designs have degraded quite nicely and been usable on lynx/similar browsers :P |
| 03:20.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I haven't tested this one yet, ill get around to that at some point. |
| 03:22.24 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, whats killing me right now is conflicting floats. >< |
| 03:22.39 | Wobwork | hatses them my precious |
| 03:23.01 | NightHawkTheSane | I've got a navigation div that's floated left, and the labels on my form are floated left as well, so the "clear: left;" clears below the nav div. < |
| 03:23.04 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 03:23.32 | trh | hehe |
| 03:23.46 | trh | i'm gonna go to bed.. gotta get up in a few hours |
| 03:23.54 | trh | gn everyone |
| 03:23.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ciao |
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| 03:47.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:47.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I could float my nav div to the right, which would solve the form issue. But I kind of dislike right-side navigation |
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| 04:19.57 | Wobwork | Fallout3 looks pretty good |
| 04:20.10 | Wobwork | http://bethblog.com/?p=100 |
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| 04:31.44 | LuckyLuciano | hi :) Any ideas where I can go to find out about a problem i've got with necronomicon2? |
| 04:32.29 | LuckyLuciano | specifically the sould shard destroying doesn't seem to be working with Felcloth bag - it just removes all the shards currently in my bag :/ |
| 04:34.10 | Thorgard | Wobwork, it sure does. |
| 04:35.54 | NightHawkTheSane | wheeeeeeeeeeee |
| 04:36.04 | NightHawkTheSane | finally got my pages to be valid xhtml |
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| 04:44.39 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 04:47.58 | abug | is CompostLib worth using? |
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| 04:54.24 | abug | dang splits |
| 04:55.47 | art3mis | hrm |
| 04:55.57 | art3mis | i think im actually sick of warcraft |
| 04:56.21 | art3mis | stupid gamecards dont expire til octoboer though |
| 04:56.30 | art3mis | october even |
| 04:58.35 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: yeah. i haven't logged in in a week or twoish, and i don't miss it all that much. *shrug* |
| 04:58.51 | NightHawkTheSane | abug: no, compostlib is deprecated at this point. |
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| 04:59.42 | LuckyLuciano | hi :) Any ideas where I can go to find out about a problem i've got with necronomicon2? |
| 04:59.43 | LuckyLuciano | specifically the sould shard destroying doesn't seem to be working with Felcloth bag - it just removes all the shards currently in my bag :/ |
| 04:59.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ask the author? *shrug* |
| 05:00.35 | LuckyLuciano | thats why im here :P |
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| 05:08.32 | aen` | is it possible to make a macro to cast 2 or 3 buffs in one button? |
| 05:08.35 | aen` | ive tried castsequence |
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| 05:10.14 | LuckyLuciano | castsequence will let you, but you'll have to hit the button a few times |
| 05:10.33 | LuckyLuciano | i don't think it's possible to do one button mutli casts now due to spells triggering the gcd |
| 05:11.07 | LuckyLuciano | castsequence is your best bet I should think |
| 05:11.30 | LuckyLuciano | something like /castsequence reset=combat/target Curse Of Weakness, Siphon Life, Corruption, Immolate, Life Tap, Life Tap, Drain Life, Drain Soul |
| 05:11.34 | LuckyLuciano | whoops...sec |
| 05:11.52 | art3mis | yeah you cant cast more than one |
| 05:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | it's impossible to cast multiple spells that trigger the GCD with a single key press. |
| 05:11.56 | art3mis | its a multi press |
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| 05:12.12 | art3mis | un;elss youv'e got a keyboard that can craete timed macros ;P |
| 05:12.12 | LuckyLuciano | swap reset=combat/target for friendly i think it is |
| 05:12.19 | art3mis | create |
| 05:12.20 | LuckyLuciano | then the spell names for your spell names |
| 05:12.41 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: well, thats outside the wow scripting system ;) |
| 05:12.45 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 05:12.53 | art3mis | and technically agaisnt the lua ;P |
| 05:12.53 | NightHawkTheSane | and, also, a violation of the ToS, i imagine |
| 05:12.55 | art3mis | err eula |
| 05:13.07 | art3mis | but meh prove it ;P |
| 05:13.24 | art3mis | oh i saw one of those z boards at ebgames the other day |
| 05:13.32 | art3mis | the wow ones with all the buttons n stuff |
| 05:13.48 | art3mis | and i thought "holy fuck how lazy would you have to be to have an /emote button" |
| 05:13.58 | Wobwork | abug: generally not. if you're needing that sort of functionality, you're better off implementing the system yourself |
| 05:14.42 | LuckyLuciano | anyone here yet that writes/helps to write/knows about necronomicon2? |
| 05:14.43 | Wobwork | it's not worth the library overhead when you can do it yourself |
| 05:16.13 | art3mis | niope/nope/nope |
| 05:16.30 | LuckyLuciano | bah |
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| 05:16.49 | art3mis | check the forum? |
| 05:16.58 | art3mis | might be an answer there about it |
| 05:17.58 | LuckyLuciano | do you have a link? |
| 05:18.04 | LuckyLuciano | i couldn't find one on the site :S |
| 05:18.07 | art3mis | i think tomorrow im gonna go buy some wood and pwoer tools and make a deck out back |
| 05:18.13 | art3mis | www.wowace.com |
| 05:18.21 | art3mis | look for "forums" or "discussion" |
| 05:18.29 | art3mis | cant rememebr what it actually is |
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| 05:19.08 | art3mis | get me some bricks for a bbq platform/garbage a covered section for the bbq and the chairs |
| 05:19.11 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:19.18 | art3mis | that sounds like a great idear |
| 05:19.28 | art3mis | once it stops raining of course ;P |
| 05:23.41 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r42824 10AtlasLoot/Core/PvP.lua: |
| 05:23.41 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 05:23.41 | CIA-22 | - Rearranged the look of the non-set PvP epic menu, it didn't look balanced. |
| 05:24.22 | aen` | i tried /castsequence Inner Focus, Shadow Word: Death and no work |
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| 05:31.13 | aen` | and another prob |
| 05:31.40 | aen` | im using a macro that uses both trinkets (like /use 13, /use 14) itll put the cooldown on the icon for the first trinket, is there a way to fix that? |
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| 05:39.19 | ckknight | syeren: Auras would be extremely hard to fix, it's just so goddamn complex and uninteresting |
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| 05:40.17 | ckknight | alright, time to shoot off some fireworks |
| 05:41.02 | RogueShadow | ckknight: have fun. |
| 05:41.11 | RogueShadow | ckknight: get too close |
| 05:41.57 | ZealotOnAStick | So, I take it my computer hasn't molested anyone on IRC or tried to spam Paris Hilton pr0n again in my absence? |
| 05:42.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: not that i've seen |
| 05:43.13 | RogueShadow | #char us azshara Eroch |
| 05:43.16 | ThraeBot | RogueShadow: Eroch, Level 70 Undead Warlock (0/40/21). 8961 HP; 7380 Mana; 539 Sta; 322 Int; 151 Spi; 1040 Armour; 10 mp5; 4.28% dodge; +78 resilience; +110 spell crit rating; 771 +spell dmg; 641 +heal. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=azshara&n=Eroch |
| 05:43.52 | LuckyLuciano | thats nice |
| 05:44.00 | LuckyLuciano | #char eu draenor Trell |
| 05:44.02 | ThraeBot | LuckyLuciano: Trell, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (41/20/0). 8974 HP; 520 Sta; 352 Agi; 2731 Armour; 19.23% dodge; 1490 AP; 1338 RAP; +22.38% melee crit. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=draenor&n=Trell |
| 05:44.18 | NightHawkTheSane | gaah. i hate that damn bot. so much idiotic spam |
| 05:44.25 | LuckyLuciano | sexy all the same. |
| 05:45.20 | NightHawkTheSane | the implementation is nifty, yes. but It's really obnoxious the way it spams the channel, and then every time someone does it, there's invariably like a dozen people who play with it for the next ten minutes, because they have the attention span of a gnat. |
| 05:46.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Oooh, gnats! |
| 05:46.46 | ZealotOnAStick | #char us blackhand Tenebra |
| 05:46.47 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 10320 HP; 9520 Mana; 701 Sta; 479 Int; 204 Spi; 1405 Armour; 4.68% dodge; +13.16% spell hit; +172 spell crit rating; 943 +spell dmg/heal; +110 shadow dmg (1053). || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=blackhand&n=Tenebra |
| 05:46.59 | art3mis | http://www.exbyte.net/media/videos/4090/Wedding_Thriller.html hahahahahahahaha |
| 05:47.15 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: heh, yeah ive seen that. awesome. :) |
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| 05:48.02 | art3mis | thats when you know yer friends are as dorky as you are |
| 05:50.08 | ZealotOnAStick | kind of impressive. |
| 05:51.03 | Mellow_ | #char eu bloodscalp harg |
| 05:51.05 | ThraeBot | Mellow_: Harg, Level 46 Human Warlock (31/6/0). 1973 HP; 2721 Mana; 132 Sta; 123 Int; 94 Spi; 836 Armour; 4.33% dodge; +1.24% melee crit; 30 +spell dmg/heal; +126 shadow dmg (156). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=bloodscalp&n=harg |
| 05:51.20 | Mellow_ | you made a wrapper for armory? :o) |
| 05:54.53 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42825 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast-zhCN.lua Click2Cast.toc): Click2Cast: add zhCN localization |
| 05:57.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I think I'm liking Visual IRC ok, but I need to work with the colors some more, and I can't seem t ofind out how to change the nick colors. |
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| 06:13.11 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. |
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| 06:13.34 | NightHawkTheSane | wikipedia says catherine tate is coming back to drwho to be the next companion. >.> |
| 06:14.02 | Wobwork | I want the Master to be a companion for a bit |
| 06:14.09 | Wobwork | that would be amusing hijinks |
| 06:14.22 | Arrowmaster | did you see the last show? |
| 06:14.23 | NightHawkTheSane | you seen 'curse of the fatal death'? |
| 06:14.31 | Wobwork | no, and no =) |
| 06:14.38 | Arrowmaster | same question i think |
| 06:15.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: it's a parody of the show, you should see it. it's amusing, and vaguely does on what you suggested :P |
| 06:15.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Meh. Catherine Tate is stacked, but meh. |
| 06:15.42 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yes, but her character (the bride, from runaway bride) is obnoxious |
| 06:15.53 | ZealotOnAStick | That too. |
| 06:16.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I was starting to like Martha. |
| 06:16.16 | ZealotOnAStick | But I still miss Rose. |
| 06:16.28 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 06:16.39 | ZealotOnAStick | mrorw for Billie Piper. |
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| 06:17.38 | NightHawkTheSane | In the end, I liked martha more than rose. |
| 06:19.27 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm likely always going to be biased towards Billie Piper, because she looks a disturbingly lot like an ex-gf of mine. |
| 06:19.39 | ZealotOnAStick | And has that accent. |
| 06:19.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Which reminds me, I need to check imdb to see who the cute blonde aussie in Transformers is. |
| 06:20.02 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:20.12 | art3mis | megan fox would be a great porn star |
| 06:20.14 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 06:20.21 | art3mis | but as an actress i wanna bash her skull in ;P |
| 06:20.31 | art3mis | oh speaking of |
| 06:20.39 | art3mis | i heard the ebst soundclip about transformers today |
| 06:21.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Rachael Taylor. |
| 06:21.31 | art3mis | shia lebeouf talking about micheal bay as a director says "it was wierd we'd be doing a scene over here and they'd be setting up just inf ront of the shot and michael would stop the camera and scream WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!! GET OUT OF MY FANTASY WORLD!!" |
| 06:22.10 | art3mis | i think we need a movie with liz dushku and liz hurley together |
| 06:22.16 | art3mis | that would make for a great movie |
| 06:22.41 | art3mis | set in a college that enforced uniforms of course |
| 06:22.45 | Mudkipz | as long as it involves both actresses groping each other |
| 06:22.48 | art3mis | a sexy colelge ;P |
| 06:22.51 | art3mis | college |
| 06:22.51 | Mudkipz | then I would agree |
| 06:23.13 | ZealotOnAStick | meh on hurley. |
| 06:23.16 | art3mis | heh hurley is the only reason i watch bedazzled |
| 06:23.24 | Mudkipz | oh yeah |
| 06:23.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Let's get . . . say . . . Eliza Dushku and Jessiba Alba. |
| 06:23.29 | Mudkipz | that movie was win |
| 06:23.29 | art3mis | you cant tell me that those outfits didnt tent pole you ;P |
| 06:23.52 | Mudkipz | funniest scene had to be the basketball |
| 06:23.57 | art3mis | hah yeah |
| 06:23.57 | Mudkipz | *takes off towel* |
| 06:24.05 | Mudkipz | "OH HELL " "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY" |
| 06:27.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. |
| 06:28.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone know if there's a way to get DrDamage to show the information on macro buttons with #show and #showtooltip used? |
| 06:28.08 | art3mis | ya know i dont find alba all that hot |
| 06:28.21 | art3mis | biel sure but not alba |
| 06:28.56 | art3mis | i mean i wouldnt kick her out of bed for eatting crackers but given the choice...... ;) |
| 06:29.25 | ZealotOnAStick | not for me. Alba over Biel any day. |
| 06:29.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Now, I'd not turn down Biel, but still. |
| 06:30.11 | art3mis | wierdo! |
| 06:30.36 | ZealotOnAStick | I prefer to be addressed as Freak or Kinky Bastard, tyvm |
| 06:31.41 | Wobwork | Jessica Alba |
| 06:31.47 | Wobwork | ...is she Alias? |
| 06:31.52 | Wobwork | or is that Biel? |
| 06:31.52 | ZealotOnAStick | no |
| 06:31.56 | ZealotOnAStick | That's Jennifer Garner |
| 06:31.59 | Wobwork | oh yeah |
| 06:32.12 | Wobwork | I can't stand Garner |
| 06:32.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Jessica Alba was Dark Angel. Also, The Invisible Girl in the Fantastic Four movies, but I pretend those don't exist for the most part. She doesn't do Blonde well. |
| 06:33.01 | ZealotOnAStick | And she was the grown up girl that Bruce Willis's cop character saved in Sin City. |
| 06:33.02 | Wobwork | No it's true |
| 06:33.07 | Wobwork | I quite liked her |
| 06:33.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Oy that pole dance scene with the chaps . . . |
| 06:33.11 | Wobwork | Alba |
| 06:33.32 | Wobwork | Garner's cheekbones make me want to slap her silly with some playdough on the face. |
| 06:34.12 | Wobwork | What has Biel been in? |
| 06:34.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Ehh, Stealth, Blade 3 |
| 06:34.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Blade Trinity, whatever. |
| 06:34.30 | Wobwork | oh the high class movies =) |
| 06:34.46 | Wobwork | Ah, she was Whistler's daughter |
| 06:34.47 | ZealotOnAStick | 7th Heaven for like . . . a long time. |
| 06:35.06 | Wobwork | I preferred Kristofferson for the foil |
| 06:35.17 | Wobwork | Not that Blade was a masterpiece of acting =P |
| 06:35.31 | Wobwork | although Ryan Reynolds was amusing |
| 06:35.54 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42826 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: |
| 06:35.54 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 06:35.54 | CIA-22 | - Default profile now has a seperate Keyring set to not open with all |
| 06:35.54 | CIA-22 | - Refreshes properly when loading a built in profile with more bags than the current setup |
| 06:36.01 | Wobwork | yay Nargiddley |
| 06:36.19 | Wobwork | I couldn't stand seeing my keys =P |
| 06:36.38 | Nargiddley | its not hard to make them go away, but got sick of being asked how heh |
| 06:37.03 | loonacy | I like having them up there minimized. |
| 06:37.35 | Nargiddley | they're still in a section of the all in one layouts |
| 06:37.49 | Nargiddley | i'm not bothered either way, and its not hard to setup how you want it |
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| 06:41.27 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 06:41.32 | theoddone33 | best guild tag ever |
| 06:41.34 | theoddone33 | <WE CAMP GY IRL> |
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| 06:45.54 | Wobwork | I dunno, i's a bit of a stupid guildname =P |
| 06:46.00 | Wobwork | What's it supposed to mean? |
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| 06:46.35 | Wobwork | "We hang around graveyards in real life in the vauge chance someone reanimates and we can smack them down"? |
| 06:50.14 | theoddone33 | see it's funny |
| 06:50.29 | theoddone33 | because it's an activity that doesn't make sense outside of the game |
| 06:50.34 | theoddone33 | yet they're claiming to do it in real life |
| 06:53.19 | pakoz | if i get an error in big wigs can i retrieve it after i have closed it? |
| 06:53.38 | pakoz | it said it couldnt call the enfeeble event on prince malch |
| 06:53.56 | pakoz | but then the enfeeble bar was working along with the sounds that go with it |
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| 07:00.38 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone know of a standalone alarm timer mod? |
| 07:00.46 | ZealotOnAStick | a guildmate of mine that refuses to get fubar is looking for one. |
| 07:00.58 | kbh | ct_timer ? |
| 07:01.25 | ZealotOnAStick | simple timer, no alarm. |
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| 07:01.33 | ZealotOnAStick | and . . . it's CT. |
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| 07:10.47 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r42827 10nQuestLog/modules/Comments.lua: |
| 07:10.47 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog : |
| 07:10.47 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 07:14.37 | art3mis | what are you doing?! playing house *blank stare* roman polanski's house. |
| 07:15.15 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: i think its called timer |
| 07:15.35 | art3mis | i remember seeing a standalone one a while back when i was looking for mini button stuff |
| 07:15.45 | art3mis | just made a little timer box |
| 07:15.57 | art3mis | although ct_timer is fine for that ;P |
| 07:16.15 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:16.17 | ckknight | I'm back |
| 07:16.21 | ckknight | and quite drunk |
| 07:16.25 | ckknight | ...on moonshine |
| 07:16.31 | ckknight | the sister-in-law made in |
| 07:16.33 | ckknight | it* |
| 07:16.39 | ckknight | woo, America! |
| 07:17.20 | ckknight | RogueShadow: also, I did what you suggested and ending up getting a spark in my hair, which was rather annoying |
| 07:17.41 | ckknight | luckily with my adept foresight, I brushed it off just in time |
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| 07:19.29 | art3mis | laugh |
| 07:19.34 | art3mis | family made hooch |
| 07:19.39 | art3mis | thats awesome on so many levels |
| 07:19.43 | ZealotOnAStick | art3mis: cide said no idea, as CT_Timer doesn't do that. |
| 07:19.56 | art3mis | whats he want? |
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| 07:20.00 | art3mis | a start and stop timer? |
| 07:20.12 | ZealotOnAStick | something he can set to make a noise every 5 minutes or so. |
| 07:20.15 | art3mis | like click a bottom it starts click again it stops right click it 0's? |
| 07:20.26 | art3mis | OH so he Does want an alarm |
| 07:20.31 | ZealotOnAStick | he was using an egg timer, but it broke. |
| 07:20.35 | art3mis | oh sec lemme see if i can find it |
| 07:21.39 | ckknight | so how's everyone doing today? |
| 07:21.58 | ZealotOnAStick | not bad, though Vegas is misbehaving for me. |
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| 07:23.18 | ckknight_ | Vegas? |
| 07:23.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Sony Vegas. Non Linear Video Editing App |
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| 07:25.26 | art3mis | bah cant find it |
| 07:25.35 | art3mis | if i remember right though its in the mazzleui |
| 07:26.03 | art3mis | although there is this thingy that times how long yer playing |
| 07:26.07 | art3mis | and has a snooze feature |
| 07:26.09 | art3mis | on wowi |
| 07:26.36 | art3mis | or ui dont remember now |
| 07:26.37 | art3mis | you could prolly mod that pretty easy to do what he wants |
| 07:26.38 | art3mis | like set the time for 5mins and the snooze for 5mins |
| 07:26.41 | art3mis | that type of thing |
| 07:27.13 | art3mis | nods |
| 07:27.29 | pakoz | any 25man-raid-fury-warriors here? |
| 07:27.33 | art3mis | even if all it displays is the timer it would be fine |
| 07:27.48 | subbawt- | why do you ask pakoz? (i'm not, but my friend is) |
| 07:28.08 | art3mis | we've gopt a couple of dps wars |
| 07:28.26 | pakoz | well im a tank atm, and i get to collect fury gear because we have no fury warriors |
| 07:28.27 | pakoz | and gear is starting to pile up |
| 07:28.31 | pakoz | red battle belt |
| 07:28.33 | pakoz | dragonstrike |
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| 07:28.41 | art3mis | they arent that good in 25mans but they make a decent enough offtank when the real one dies ;P |
| 07:28.54 | pakoz | dragonspine, VR's helm |
| 07:28.54 | pakoz | etc |
| 07:28.56 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 07:28.59 | art3mis | plus they're fun to give to new guild healers ;P |
| 07:29.05 | art3mis | to keep alive |
| 07:29.15 | art3mis | its almost more fun than making a rogue live o a mob that aoes ;P |
| 07:29.25 | pakoz | i'm thinking of going a haste build with around 270 hit and two slow weapons |
| 07:29.27 | pakoz | two 2.7s |
| 07:29.35 | art3mis | give it a shot |
| 07:29.44 | art3mis | if yer guild says shore it's worth it to at least muck with |
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| 07:30.00 | art3mis | my last guild had a great dps war |
| 07:30.00 | pakoz | looking for input on the two slow weapons with massive haste |
| 07:30.05 | art3mis | ahh |
| 07:30.16 | art3mis | umm one sec |
| 07:30.19 | pakoz | my goal is 1000dps |
| 07:30.22 | ckknight | oh mang, I totally went through an entire bottle of moonshine wine |
| 07:30.40 | ckknight | which is ~twice as much alcohol proof as normal wine |
| 07:30.46 | ckknight | how much is that? |
| 07:30.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Depends on the wine. |
| 07:31.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Most wines are around 7-12% alchohol, but Port's like 18. |
| 07:31.34 | TheKarn | mm port |
| 07:31.53 | art3mis | hrm only guy i know off hand thats a 25man dps uses gorehowl |
| 07:31.56 | ckknight | I'd guess it's close to prot |
| 07:31.57 | art3mis | a 3.6 2h axe |
| 07:32.00 | ckknight | maybe a little under |
| 07:32.07 | ckknight | port* |
| 07:32.11 | ckknight | gah, too much wow |
| 07:32.15 | ckknight | <--- prot pally |
| 07:32.23 | ckknight | teh muscle memory |
| 07:32.26 | ckknight | it betrays me! |
| 07:32.35 | subbawt- | our fury warrior uses mostly leather :P |
| 07:32.35 | ZealotOnAStick | look up Guzrud on blackhand us on armory |
| 07:32.47 | ZealotOnAStick | #char blackhand us guzrud |
| 07:32.54 | art3mis | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&n=Oddgit |
| 07:32.58 | art3mis | thats the other one |
| 07:33.04 | ZealotOnAStick | #char us blackhand guzrud |
| 07:33.05 | art3mis | he hasnt been around much lately though |
| 07:33.06 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Guzrud, Level 70 Orc Warrior (17/44/0). 10434 HP; 609 Str; 602 Sta; 122 Spi; 9382 Armour; 5.09% dodge; +12 resilience; 5% block; 1912 AP; +32.09% melee crit; 12 +spell dmg/heal. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=blackhand&n=guzrud |
| 07:33.32 | theoddone33 | now that's a nice bot |
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| 07:33.46 | kbh | #char us Anvilmar Limmie |
| 07:33.47 | Health | I should make one of those |
| 07:33.48 | ThraeBot | kbh: Limmie, Level 70 Human Mage (19/42/0). 7673 HP; 8366 Mana; 446 Sta; 427 Int; 236 Spi; 1585 Armour; 80 mp5; 5.82% dodge; +3.49% spell hit; +264 spell crit rating; 807 +spell dmg; 778 +heal; +172 arcane dmg (979); +221 fire dmg (1028). || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Anvilmar&n=Limmie |
| 07:33.53 | kbh | nice! |
| 07:35.04 | Health | #char eu Stormrage Health |
| 07:35.06 | ThraeBot | Health: Health, Level 70 Human Priest (8/0/53). 8061 HP; 7425 Mana; 485 Sta; 339 Int; 192 Spi; 1716 Armour; 5.94% dodge; +29 resilience; +7.77% spell hit; +97 spell crit rating; 829 +spell dmg/heal; +233 frost dmg (1062); +380 shadow dmg (1209); +37 shadow resist. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Health |
| 07:35.09 | Health | I rock |
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| 07:35.32 | art3mis | #char us Echo Isles Rozalyn |
| 07:35.32 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Rozalyn, Level 70 Undead Priest (9/0/52). 6211 HP; 6390 Mana; 300 Sta; 270 Int; 285 Armour; 5 mp5; 3.58% dodge; +1.11% spell hit; +97 spell crit rating; 601 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (780); +241 shadow dmg (842). || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo Isles&n=Rozalyn |
| 07:35.35 | Health | mmm 1209 shadow damage |
| 07:35.53 | art3mis | and thats without ANY above 5man instance gear and like 3 heroic runs ;P |
| 07:35.53 | TheKarn | #char eu daggerspine karnicus |
| 07:35.53 | ThraeBot | TheKarn: Karnicus, Level 70 Undead Priest (14/0/47). 6871 HP; 8610 Mana; 366 Sta; 418 Int; 209 Spi; 1282 Armour; 24 mp5; 4.86% dodge; +16 resilience; +3.33% spell hit; +108 spell crit rating; 637 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (816); +179 shadow dmg (816). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=daggerspine&n=karnicus (636m old) |
| 07:35.58 | TheKarn | whish we'd rad more |
| 07:36.01 | theoddone33 | ... I knew this would happen |
| 07:36.02 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:36.09 | theoddone33 | purl: botspam |
| 07:36.31 | Tuks | #char us burning blade tuks |
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| 07:36.33 | ThraeBot | Tuks: Tuks, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (40/0/21). 9648 HP; 8378 Mana; 113 Str; 621 Sta; 380 Int; 128 Spi; 9839 Armour; 45 mp5; 4.28% dodge; +243 resilience; 5% block; +2.06% spell hit; +279 spell crit rating; 767 +spell dmg/heal. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=burning blade&n=tuks |
| 07:36.36 | Tuks | oh well :P |
| 07:36.44 | ZealotOnAStick | ~botspam |
| 07:36.57 | pakoz | whats "-botspam- do? |
| 07:36.59 | pakoz | turn it off? |
| 07:37.06 | ZealotOnAStick | purl broke or slow? |
| 07:37.11 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.14 | theoddone33 | I wasn't aware it did anything |
| 07:37.19 | theoddone33 | purl: botsnack |
| 07:37.19 | purl | thanks, theoddone33 |
| 07:37.33 | art3mis | purl: bothead |
| 07:37.36 | kbh | it should post stats based on spec too :P |
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| 07:37.55 | pakoz | i think it can only display default stats shown |
| 07:37.55 | theoddone33 | create tinyurls? heh |
| 07:38.06 | kbh | i mean who cares how much +frost a spriest has eh? |
| 07:38.07 | pakoz | which depends on class not spec |
| 07:38.16 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:38.16 | Tuks | hum.. |
| 07:38.25 | art3mis | tinyurls are easy to type and dont fill the screen ;P |
| 07:38.28 | Tuks | make it like an advanced searc |
| 07:38.30 | TheKarn | Thrae: or atleast urlencode the url |
| 07:38.30 | theoddone33 | man I wish my priest had any +dmg |
| 07:38.33 | art3mis | but msg responses would be a much welcome thing |
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| 07:38.40 | Tuks | name race class battleground |
| 07:38.54 | Tuks | that whould be awesome :D |
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| 07:39.16 | Tuks | having someone to search taht each arena game.. overpowered |
| 07:39.43 | pakoz | hmm |
| 07:39.52 | pakoz | how many ppl does it take to do doomwalker. |
| 07:39.55 | pakoz | ? |
| 07:40.00 | kbh | 30+ |
| 07:40.03 | pakoz | gah |
| 07:40.05 | Deviad | Hello |
| 07:40.12 | Tuks | #char us burning blade warloca |
| 07:40.14 | ThraeBot | Tuks: Warloca, Level 70 Undead Warlock (7/7/47). 9350 HP; 7975 Mana; 594 Sta; 376 Int; 136 Spi; 1509 Armour; 4.28% dodge; +110 resilience; +3.17% spell hit; +277 spell crit rating; 886 +spell dmg; 786 +heal; +72 frost dmg (958); +123 shadow dmg (1009). || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=burning blade&n=warloca |
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| 07:40.45 | Deviad | Why doesn't kcitem show anymore the price of the enabled items in the inventory when you put the mouse over them? |
| 07:41.19 | kbh | how do people get on the 2nd floor of the sw AH >.< |
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| 07:41.35 | Health | Flying cows |
| 07:41.36 | Deviad | Can anyone pls help me? I haven't been around this game for 3 - 4 months |
| 07:41.37 | art3mis | magic and invisible steps |
| 07:41.51 | pakoz | how many for doomlord kazzak? |
| 07:42.07 | art3mis | depends how fast you wanna win ;P |
| 07:42.15 | art3mis | 40 its about a 2min fight |
| 07:42.19 | pakoz | lol |
| 07:42.30 | art3mis | well 45seconds -2mins |
| 07:43.18 | art3mis | i think i need to go see transformers again |
| 07:43.30 | kbh | yay i did it! |
| 07:43.34 | art3mis | and then september needs to hurry up and get here |
| 07:43.52 | art3mis | Resident Evil 3 |
| 07:44.41 | Deviad | Can anyone pls help me? |
| 07:44.55 | kbh | what do ya need to know dev? |
| 07:45.16 | Deviad | kbh, I use kcitem but since I haven't been around wow for 3 - 4 months some things changed |
| 07:45.28 | kbh | what did kcitem do |
| 07:45.32 | Deviad | when I put the mouse over an item I don't get any more the cost of the item retrieved from kcitem db |
| 07:46.25 | Deviad | If I launch /kci I don't get anymore the options to add a database, restore any or whatever |
| 07:47.03 | Deviad | The addon is installed and no dependency is missing |
| 07:47.11 | Deviad | I updated to the latest version of everything |
| 07:47.20 | Deviad | using wowaceupdater |
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| 07:48.36 | art3mis | did you notice in the changelog anything that sounds like "youll lose your database because of a format change?" |
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| 07:52.23 | Deviad | Hello |
| 07:52.29 | Deviad | Sorry, I got disconnected |
| 07:52.38 | Deviad | So, can anyone pls tell me what changed in kcitem? |
| 07:53.34 | art3mis | look at the changelog? |
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| 07:55.10 | Deviad | I guess I found out on wowinterface |
| 07:55.20 | Deviad | It looks like it became modular, so I have to install each module |
| 07:55.21 | Deviad | ^^ |
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| 08:01.38 | Deviad | OK, that isn't the reason why I cannot see the stuff into the inventory |
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| 08:03.36 | art3mis | you might be sol |
| 08:03.51 | art3mis | as in have to wipe the settings in yer wtf for kcitems and start from scratch |
| 08:04.15 | art3mis | dont use it so i couldnt say for sure though |
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| 08:34.45 | Deviad | Since aguf now sucks, what can I use instead of it? |
| 08:35.21 | cryogen | thats a bit harsh, but you could try pitbull |
| 08:35.22 | Health | PitBull |
| 08:36.08 | Deviad | I have been using aguf for some time, but I dunno why now it doesn't show any more all the options like before |
| 08:36.26 | Deviad | I mean before you just right-clicked on the frame and set the options like the look of the frame |
| 08:36.34 | Deviad | now It doesn't work anymore... |
| 08:37.01 | Deviad | I have already replaced one wowace mod with another (kci with auctioneer) |
| 08:37.07 | Cartas | Go with oUF! |
| 08:37.07 | Deviad | Which works like a charm |
| 08:37.17 | cryogen | try pitbull if you want shiney options |
| 08:38.51 | Deviad | Cryogen, I've just read that pitbul does not show buffs |
| 08:38.55 | Deviad | Pitbull* |
| 08:39.20 | Deviad | Is it true? |
| 08:39.42 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42828 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:39.42 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 08:39.42 | CIA-22 | - Added Debilitating Spray, Vile Slime |
| 08:39.42 | CIA-22 | - Added Totem of Ancestral Guidance |
| 08:39.42 | CIA-22 | - Squashed a global introduced a few commits back |
| 08:39.43 | CIA-22 | - Changed a few DrDamage -> self |
| 08:39.45 | CIA-22 | - A bit more work on melee module |
| 08:40.22 | Health | Of course it shows buffs r-tard |
| 08:40.24 | cryogen | Deviad: huh? nonsens |
| 08:40.25 | cryogen | e |
| 08:40.51 | Deviad | I don't find anywhere to set up weapon buffs for Pitbull. Am I missing something? Thanks all |
| 08:41.02 | Deviad | That's from here: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10897 |
| 08:41.12 | cryogen | oh, weapon buffs? |
| 08:41.37 | mitch0 | any omen devs around? |
| 08:42.08 | nevcairiel | no UF does show weapon buffs *shrug |
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| 08:42.15 | nevcairiel | if you dont like it, dont use it |
| 08:42.16 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:42.40 | Deviad | I like Pitbull a lot though, so I'm installing it |
| 08:42.57 | Deviad | It's a pitty for ag uf though, it was light and had the important stuff |
| 08:43.33 | nevcairiel | i dont see what you miss there, it still has all options, just was moved a bit |
| 08:44.59 | evl | oUF barebones ftw! :D |
| 08:45.46 | Cartas | I agree, evl! |
| 08:45.57 | Cartas | oUF is the lightest. ;) |
| 08:46.06 | evl | https://evladdons.googlecode.com/svn/branches/oUF |
| 08:46.09 | evl | there's my branch btw |
| 08:46.31 | nevcairiel | you locked your svn repo? |
| 08:46.41 | nevcairiel | bad you! :P |
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| 08:46.46 | evl | I did? :P |
| 08:47.03 | Deviad | As far as I see pitbull replaced ag uf |
| 08:47.08 | evl | Untrue |
| 08:47.12 | nevcairiel | pitbull uses way too much performance |
| 08:47.24 | cryogen | expanded is more accurate |
| 08:47.44 | Deviad | Well, if we look at its features it has the same features ag uf had till some time ago |
| 08:47.59 | Deviad | you right click the frame and you can see the menu with all the options |
| 08:48.05 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r42829 10ArkInventory/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:48.05 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:48.05 | CIA-22 | - v2.03 |
| 08:48.25 | nevcairiel | thats wrong |
| 08:48.46 | Cartas | Indeed! |
| 08:49.36 | nevcairiel | pitbull has way more options and settings, thus making it pretty heavy on memory and performance |
| 08:49.51 | nevcairiel | ag_UF is still "lite" |
| 08:50.22 | Health | You can remove any module you don't want in pibull |
| 08:50.34 | nevcairiel | its still heavier |
| 08:50.42 | cryogen | its not heavy at all |
| 08:50.48 | cryogen | heavier, yes, but far from heavy |
| 08:50.51 | evl | I like PitBull, I just don't like the new MetaLayot, crippled my layout options |
| 08:51.00 | cryogen | woo, it uses 1M, oh gnoes! |
| 08:51.04 | nevcairiel | with the same featureset i use in agUF, it uses more memory and cpu |
| 08:51.06 | evl | my whole UI uses 1.2mb :P |
| 08:51.08 | nevcairiel | no reason to use it for me ;) |
| 08:51.15 | evl | including BigWigs, oRA2, Violation and Omen |
| 08:51.23 | cryogen | then dont use it, but dont call it heavy :p |
| 08:51.28 | cryogen | ace2 alone uses 9M here :p |
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| 09:00.40 | art3mis | pitbull like cartographer took a simple thing and made it into a HUGE all in one option, which for some is great and others it's annoying because of the amount of modules that actually have to be disabled for a lean feel |
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| 09:01.44 | art3mis | sorta like what xperl has become |
| 09:02.10 | art3mis | nev is quartz yours or nymbias? |
| 09:02.17 | nevcairiel | nymbia |
| 09:02.30 | art3mis | can never remeber you darn N named people ;P |
| 09:02.37 | art3mis | he started changing shit in it |
| 09:02.40 | art3mis | it makes me sad |
| 09:02.46 | Health | I can't seem to get the debuffs in pitbull under the target unit frame. Tried like all the position options :/ |
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| 09:03.21 | mitch0 | art: in quartz? what changes? |
| 09:03.26 | art3mis | not enough people seem to be able to see the "alright it's done" |
| 09:03.28 | mitch0 | I kinda liked it |
| 09:03.36 | art3mis | i liked the earlier versions |
| 09:03.40 | mitch0 | but what changed? |
| 09:03.53 | art3mis | i mean i still use it but a fwe of the castingbar things were added |
| 09:03.55 | mitch0 | wasn't paying attention as I was yelling on my own addon |
| 09:03.57 | art3mis | moved |
| 09:04.01 | art3mis | stuff like that |
| 09:04.09 | benmaca | hello, anyone can help me on some troubles with omen (threat-1.0) ? |
| 09:04.20 | mitch0 | probably not |
| 09:04.23 | art3mis | i had a bitch of a time tracking down why quarts bars were appearing on my HUD |
| 09:05.19 | art3mis | i kind of liked it when it was just a spiffy casttimer thingy |
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| 09:05.34 | mitch0 | ben: antiarc could help you probably, but he seems to be afk |
| 09:05.58 | art3mis | what sorta of troubles ben? |
| 09:06.04 | benmaca | i will wait for him, ty |
| 09:06.32 | mitch0 | well, threat and/or omen seems to be broken for me as well |
| 09:06.42 | mitch0 | some of the brokennes seems to be related to the pullout bar |
| 09:06.50 | art3mis | i would try to avoid being bleeding edge with it |
| 09:07.01 | benmaca | art3mis: basically we using ktm, some of us wanted to try omen, and all warlocks in our raid doesnt see their aggro going up in omen. any known incompatibility with lock addons? |
| 09:07.12 | mitch0 | if I pull out the agro gain bar, the main display gets sorta random values |
| 09:07.34 | art3mis | benmaca: actually he's working ont he lock stuff(or was the last fwe days anyways) |
| 09:08.28 | art3mis | but you can use this as an opportuity to just tell yer locks that they suck and to dps harder ;P |
| 09:08.37 | benmaca | -_- |
| 09:08.43 | [Ammo] | just noticed the pitbull vs agUF size etc |
| 09:08.43 | mitch0 | "Poo UI beta" <- nice UI name :) |
| 09:08.47 | [Ammo] | agUF is quite light |
| 09:08.53 | [Ammo] | it's 490kib disembedded on load |
| 09:09.02 | [Ammo] | and doesn't grow much beyond 700kib for me in raid |
| 09:09.10 | art3mis | [Ammo]: thats mainly because aguf only does auras and uf's |
| 09:09.21 | art3mis | it doesnt try to be an everything kabob |
| 09:09.21 | [Ammo] | pitbull adds 2M to my Ace2 libs, and is 3.2M by itself |
| 09:09.29 | [Ammo] | it's the DUF of ace2 |
| 09:09.34 | cryogen | 3.2?! wtf do you use |
| 09:09.39 | cryogen | uses 1.1 here |
| 09:09.42 | [Ammo] | I just installed it |
| 09:09.43 | [Ammo] | that's all |
| 09:09.45 | mitch0 | most of the stuff should be disabled in pitbull ;) |
| 09:09.48 | [Ammo] | non-lod'd |
| 09:09.49 | mitch0 | and then it's nice |
| 09:09.53 | kbh | sometimes pitbull makes gigantic grey boxes over my screen |
| 09:09.57 | cryogen | i 'just insstalled it' too |
| 09:10.07 | [Ammo] | cryogen: don't enter a raid |
| 09:10.10 | [Ammo] | is my advice |
| 09:10.15 | cryogen | i dont raid :) |
| 09:10.15 | art3mis | using pitbull full is bad ;P |
| 09:10.22 | art3mis | it bags the fuck out of my in a 40man |
| 09:10.28 | art3mis | my==me |
| 09:10.36 | cryogen | if i did raid i wouldnt use it for my raid frames |
| 09:10.38 | [Ammo] | pitbull is not made for raiding :p |
| 09:10.42 | cryogen | becaus ethat would be silly |
| 09:10.43 | benmaca | there is an example http://benmaca.dommel.be/WoWScrnShot_070407_235545.jpg and i'm sure threat1.0 is activated |
| 09:10.50 | art3mis | perfectraid makes me happy though |
| 09:11.10 | [Ammo] | perfectraid is what i use as well |
| 09:12.07 | art3mis | benmaca: cehck the settings of the module and make sure that warlock stuff is enabled(ie the class itself) |
| 09:12.19 | mitch0 | I use pitbull for raids, too, but I only enable the raid frames to check for missing arcane brilliance buffs on members, then I hid it asap :) |
| 09:12.21 | benmaca | already checked, not that :( |
| 09:12.35 | Health | mitch0: You don't use XRS? |
| 09:12.45 | mitch0 | too bad it has a bug now that also hides my party frames when I hide the raid frames |
| 09:12.47 | mitch0 | xrs? |
| 09:12.58 | Killmore | my ace2 start at 3.7mb and after a 2 hours raid is at 7-8mb |
| 09:12.59 | Arrowmaster | benmaca: in that screenshot, omen is showing global threat thats why |
| 09:13.01 | Health | Tracks stuff in raid that you define |
| 09:13.07 | art3mis | mitch0: smartbuff ;P |
| 09:13.18 | Health | Buffs, people alive, mana levels.. anything you define! |
| 09:13.31 | mitch0 | sounds too complex :) |
| 09:13.41 | mitch0 | someone else will buff the other guys if I miss it anyway ;) |
| 09:13.44 | Health | It's not. Really small too. |
| 09:13.47 | mitch0 | less money for arcane powder :) |
| 09:13.52 | Health | nice |
| 09:14.39 | mitch0 | yesterday I had a hellish time in kara. omen was totally b0rked, and I wiped the raid twice due to agro :) |
| 09:14.53 | mitch0 | well, it was not _just_ omen's fault. the tanks sucked a bit, too :) |
| 09:14.53 | [Ammo] | Killmore: using pitbull? |
| 09:15.08 | [Ammo] | Killmore: pitbull adds approx 1M/hour to the Ace2 libs due to it's menus or something |
| 09:15.32 | Killmore | [Ammo]: Im using pitbull, but perfectraid for healing |
| 09:15.50 | [Ammo] | doesn't matter |
| 09:15.54 | [Ammo] | just having PB loaded will do that |
| 09:15.56 | benmaca | Arrowmaster not the best ss, ok, but we have the same problem on bosses. sometimes we appear with 50 or 100 aggro points but it doesnt up with our dmg. at last if my mate lock is still using KTM, i must have his data from ktm in omen, no? i cant see his threath at all |
| 09:16.15 | abug | so uh |
| 09:16.35 | abug | I found this way to call protected functions from unprotected code... |
| 09:16.50 | Health | hax |
| 09:16.53 | Arrowmaster | benmaca: was it only an issue with seeing other peoples threat? |
| 09:17.06 | abug | do I... |
| 09:17.24 | Health | Example of fun things you can do? |
| 09:17.26 | abug | a) release it and rezz up a couple old addons like fastcast |
| 09:17.28 | Killmore | [Ammo]: ok |
| 09:17.37 | abug | b) tell slouken |
| 09:17.40 | abug | c) do nothing |
| 09:17.41 | benmaca | Arrowmaster we just cant see lock threat in omen... |
| 09:17.49 | Health | c) |
| 09:17.52 | mitch0 | abug: you already missed the c) |
| 09:17.59 | mitch0 | at least partly |
| 09:18.00 | abug | I haven't told how yet :) |
| 09:18.10 | [Ammo] | abug: you probably tainted your UI anyway |
| 09:18.13 | Health | protected functions such as movement? |
| 09:18.16 | abug | yeah |
| 09:18.28 | Health | Nice. Autotravel! |
| 09:18.29 | abug | and it doesn't taint as far as I can tell |
| 09:18.39 | Health | krka! |
| 09:18.49 | Arrowmaster | benmaca: no clue then, i was guessing it might have been something with translations but i dont really know |
| 09:18.52 | abug | actually there's always d) turn into an ace library |
| 09:19.12 | Health | I'm pretty sure that it will be fixed as soon as there is any code out. |
| 09:19.18 | Arrowmaster | abug: you could say what it is so others could test can confirm that it really does do what you think it does |
| 09:19.23 | mitch0 | well, all of the options (except c) results in a patch of wow shortly ;) |
| 09:19.29 | benmaca | Arrowmaster i was going try with an english client tonight for that reason |
| 09:19.55 | abug | I'll release it in a moment on pasty |
| 09:20.15 | mitch0 | even this limited disclosure might result in a wow patch anyway, if someone important notices this ;) |
| 09:20.27 | abug | well what else can I do? |
| 09:20.51 | mitch0 | well, show the pastey (as I'm interested :) |
| 09:21.04 | [Ammo] | show the pastey, if it's genuine, report it to slouken |
| 09:21.11 | abug | aww |
| 09:21.12 | mitch0 | and that ^ |
| 09:21.21 | Arrowmaster | not something to sit on, since if it really is a bug somebody else might find it and abuse it |
| 09:21.32 | abug | what could they abuse really? |
| 09:21.47 | abug | we had most of the protected functions before |
| 09:21.54 | [Ammo] | you don't have them now, for a reason |
| 09:22.09 | mitch0 | well, if you can call movement from .lua, that's kinda fishy, isn't it? |
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| 09:24.36 | mitch0 | eh: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7331-1.3.html |
| 09:29.02 | mitch0 | haha: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/04/176226 |
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| 09:30.59 | Arrowmaster | rofl http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=507157 |
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| 09:40.31 | mitch0 | [ammo]: could you modify vio so that clicking the amll X would just hide the window, but not remove it from the "windows to be shown" list? |
| 09:40.34 | Killmore | on my server this morning |
| 09:40.34 | Killmore | http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8292/wowscrnshot070407085027ed6.jpg |
| 09:41.38 | [Ammo] | mitch0: no |
| 09:41.49 | mitch0 | sad :( |
| 09:42.12 | [Ammo] | click the x you apparantly don't want the window shown, aka hidden |
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| 09:42.48 | mitch0 | I don't want it shown _at the moment_, but I'd like it to show up again if I click vio's foobar thingy |
| 09:42.50 | Arrowmaster | ive not been to ironforge in quite a while but is that writen out going from west to east or is it diagonal? |
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| 09:43.41 | mitch0 | right now what happens is it's in the way, I close it fast (combat, somesuch), then I get a "you don't have any windows enabled" when I try to show it again :( |
| 09:43.45 | mitch0 | pretty annoying actually |
| 09:43.54 | phyber | same here. |
| 09:43.56 | mitch0 | that setting should remain in the menu |
| 09:43.59 | [Ammo] | well, entirely your problem |
| 09:44.05 | mitch0 | well, I'm not alone :) |
| 09:44.12 | [Ammo] | you could just click the bloody plugin you know |
| 09:44.14 | mitch0 | your approach is counter-intuitive |
| 09:44.14 | [Ammo] | instead of the X |
| 09:44.29 | [Ammo] | for a branch and create your own abomination |
| 09:44.32 | [Ammo] | fork |
| 09:44.51 | mitch0 | no need to branch, as I update via svn, so I can just keep local mods |
| 09:45.05 | mitch0 | but I still think your aproach is counter intuitive :) |
| 09:45.25 | mitch0 | I don't want to kenco you, just stating my opinion :) |
| 09:45.35 | benmaca | Killmore c'est quoi le nom de l'addon qui met le fond de tes cadres en noir stp? |
| 09:45.43 | mitch0 | ui |
| 09:45.47 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42830 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 09:45.47 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:45.47 | CIA-22 | - Updated koKR: Boss |
| 09:45.53 | mitch0 | or not |
| 09:45.59 | mitch0 | c'est la vie |
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| 09:46.16 | benmaca | -_- |
| 09:47.08 | mitch0 | [ammo]: could you then add a keybinding for the foobar click thing? (toggle windows) |
| 09:47.45 | [Ammo] | ./script Violation:ToggleWindows() |
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| 09:48.05 | mitch0 | what's all the hate lately about bindings.xml? :) |
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| 09:48.38 | mitch0 | but OK, I can create a macro a bind that with qUserKey :) |
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| 09:49.22 | mitch0 | is there some technical reason for avoiding key bindings btw? (really interested, as I see this with most of the new addons) |
| 09:50.58 | mitch0 | abug: so, what about that pastey? |
| 09:52.58 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42831 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 09:52.58 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:52.58 | CIA-22 | -update zhCN local |
| 09:54.06 | wogi | Killmore: What does http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8292/wowscrnshot070407085027ed6.jpg mean? |
| 09:55.15 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42832 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 09:55.15 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:55.15 | CIA-22 | - Updated koKR: Boss |
| 09:55.24 | Killmore | wogi: gold seller pub |
| 09:55.31 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42833 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: |
| 09:55.31 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:55.31 | CIA-22 | -update zhCN local |
| 09:55.52 | Killmore | wogi: like this one http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=507157 |
| 09:56.52 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42834 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua: |
| 09:56.52 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:56.52 | CIA-22 | -Add zhCN local. |
| 09:56.59 | abug | sorry playing with it |
| 09:57.17 | abug | trying to dynamically use protected functions instead of ones I hardcode |
| 09:57.20 | mitch0 | so you've given in to botting, eh? :) |
| 09:57.28 | mitch0 | j/k |
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| 09:57.34 | abug | I just don't want a stupid example |
| 09:57.44 | mitch0 | understandable |
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| 10:00.01 | mitch0 | eh, nice quote: "If atheism is a belief system then not collecting stamps is a hobby." |
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| 10:05.14 | Cartass | Hm, that sounds a bit ripped off, mitch0. |
| 10:07.15 | mitch0 | just read it in a /. post, and it's the first time I've seen it, so it was new to me. *shrug* |
| 10:07.25 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42835 10DrDamage/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:07.25 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 10:07.25 | CIA-22 | - Added Warrior module (talents missing) |
| 10:07.25 | CIA-22 | - More work on melee module |
| 10:08.49 | Cartas | I think it might've originally been something like, "If atheism is a religion then not playing cards is a hobby.", mitch0. :) |
| 10:08.58 | Cartas | I suppose it's not really different... I just think that one sounds tidier. |
| 10:10.30 | abug | dang wow crashes |
| 10:11.23 | mitch0 | eh, there's the protection :) |
| 10:11.52 | mitch0 | and probly right before crashing it sent a distress signal towards the server :) |
| 10:11.58 | mitch0 | HACKER INSIDE! |
| 10:13.02 | abug | just me doing stupid things like endless recursion |
| 10:13.30 | mitch0 | that's nice :) did that once. was surprised it crashed wow |
| 10:13.40 | mitch0 | I sort of expected it to handle it a bit more gracefully... |
| 10:13.44 | abug | ya rly |
| 10:14.04 | binder | you guys know of a lightweight mod that does chat timestamps? |
| 10:14.55 | mitch0 | used to have one of those but a patch killed it and I couldn't be arsed to find another. |
| 10:15.10 | [Ammo] | binder: SimpleChatMods |
| 10:15.18 | [Ammo] | you could even just copy the scmTimestamps.lua file from there |
| 10:15.20 | [Ammo] | and just use that |
| 10:15.23 | [Ammo] | timestamps.lua even |
| 10:16.12 | binder | thaks |
| 10:16.14 | binder | thanks too |
| 10:17.04 | mitch0 | [ammo]: so, are there any problems with bindings.xml I should know of? or I managed to put myself on your shitlist? :) |
| 10:19.08 | mitch0 | oh well |
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| 10:23.10 | binder | ammo how do you open the configure options for simplechat? |
| 10:23.55 | evl | YES! |
| 10:24.00 | evl | Jewelcrafting getting buffed |
| 10:24.05 | binder | serious? |
| 10:24.07 | evl | I knew staying true was the thing to do ;D |
| 10:24.08 | binder | link please |
| 10:24.15 | Undine_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.26 | Undine_ | oh so leet |
| 10:24.45 | evl | binder: blah, false alarm :( |
| 10:25.26 | binder | I have every profession covered except leatherworking to 375 between my chars so anytime any tradeskill gets better it's exciting to me :P |
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| 10:26.16 | binder | lw seems to be the lone tradeskill tht's a giant dump of cash you can never get back |
| 10:28.21 | evl | Nah |
| 10:28.25 | evl | Belt of Deep Shadow |
| 10:28.28 | evl | Boots of Utter Darkness |
| 10:28.32 | evl | cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash |
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| 10:29.47 | Elkano | could anyone test if the wiki is still working of if I managed to block all users again? |
| 10:30.28 | Undine | looks ok to me |
| 10:31.10 | Elkano | good :) blocks have tended to be a bit agressive lately, so better crosscheck ^ |
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| 10:31.52 | Undine | I'm sure I fired up this xchat thang with a question in mind but it's completely gone now :( |
| 10:32.11 | mitch0 | undine: 42 |
| 10:32.38 | Undine | what is six times nine? |
| 10:33.40 | mitch0 | :) |
| 10:35.05 | norganna | ~6*9 |
| 10:35.06 | purl | 54 |
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| 10:48.34 | binder | [Ammo] how do you configure simple chat? |
| 10:48.54 | evl | binder: myconfig.lua in the folder. |
| 10:49.25 | binder | oh no menu ingame |
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| 10:49.31 | ccKep | hey all |
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| 10:52.11 | [Ammo] | binder: you asked for simple. SCM is as simple as it gets |
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| 10:52.45 | binder | lol I guess so |
| 10:52.57 | binder | it took away my arrows for scrolling the chat boxes |
| 10:53.01 | binder | other than that it's perfect |
| 10:53.03 | binder | as is |
| 10:54.11 | Gagorian | #api UnitBuff |
| 10:54.14 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: name, rank, iconTexture, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff(unit, buffIndex[, castable]); |
| 10:54.49 | Gagorian | #api UnitDebuff |
| 10:54.50 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: name, rank, texture, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft = UnitDebuff(unitID, debuffIndex [, removable]); |
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| 10:59.17 | Elkano | Gagorian, what are you planning to do? ;) |
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| 11:01.37 | sag_ich_nicht | where is shirik |
| 11:01.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i will stab him |
| 11:01.42 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
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| 11:07.06 | Gagorian | Elkano: Just a few checks for DrDamage for warrior's blood frenzy talent |
| 11:07.20 | Gagorian | was easier to use this than wowwiki :p |
| 11:08.57 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 11:09.05 | sag_ich_nicht | so i suppose DrDamage is getting melee support? :P |
| 11:09.58 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and |
| 11:10.12 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks to who ever changed the server changelog behaviour back to sane. |
| 11:10.12 | Fritti | yay for DrDamage! |
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| 11:11.03 | Undine | bah, arkinv and outfitter seem to be having a spat |
| 11:12.58 | Elkano | (or at least I would if I could atm :/ ) |
| 11:13.00 | Undine | did i say outfitter, i meant closetgnome |
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| 11:13.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm scared of wardrobe2 since it kind-of-overflowed 6 months or so ago and switched back to wardrobe-al |
| 11:13.14 | sbu | morning |
| 11:13.17 | Undine | i've looked at baggins a couple of times but it feels too big |
| 11:14.00 | Nargiddley` | too big how ? |
| 11:14.17 | Undine | takes up too much screen |
| 11:15.01 | Nargiddley | ah, thats mostly the seperate bags ? |
| 11:15.08 | Undine | guess so yeah |
| 11:15.33 | Nargiddley | theres an all in one sorted profile if you prefer everything in one |
| 11:16.18 | Matrix110 | Scale them down |
| 11:16.38 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42836 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 11:16.38 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:16.38 | CIA-22 | - deDE update |
| 11:16.50 | Nargiddley | seperate bags is the default since i was using Advanced bags plus when i started working on it heh |
| 11:17.04 | Undine | might have another play with it |
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| 11:18.02 | cryogen | the profiles that ace addons seem to use.. |
| 11:18.18 | cryogen | they have a copy FROM option, and thats all well and good, but how to i copy TO another profile? |
| 11:18.36 | Nargiddley | load it then copy from the old one ? |
| 11:18.49 | cryogen | eg, ive spent ages setting up my unitframes, but realised im on the default profile, how do i copy it to another? |
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| 11:19.34 | cryogen | hmm, makes sense |
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| 11:25.48 | Elkano | btw, Nargiddley, how's your recode/improvements going? iirc you said sth about such to me some time ago |
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| 11:27.56 | Nargiddley | i'm done for now and it seems to be stable now |
| 11:28.10 | Nargiddley | i got it so items dont move around when you sell stuff |
| 11:28.50 | Nargiddley | which was the big goal, its also a bit cleaner for more features (hide duplicate can be per bag now for instance) |
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| 11:28.58 | Undine | what's a good mod for including item counts across alts in tooltips? |
| 11:29.40 | Nargiddley | next big recode will be the category / bag editing gui |
| 11:30.02 | binder | hmm |
| 11:30.03 | Iceroth | sanitybags? |
| 11:30.13 | binder | wonder why my cartographer won't go to scarlet monastery when I'm in SM |
| 11:30.30 | Health | Yes. You wonder that. |
| 11:30.37 | Undine | sanity has been iffy for me. doesn't show counts on chatlink tooltips |
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| 11:33.10 | binder | sm is the greatest place to power level alts |
| 11:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | BS |
| 11:33.42 | sag_ich_nicht | with the new quests in from burning crusade questing is way faster than using instances |
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| 11:34.23 | MikkZzz | eya nargs |
| 11:35.32 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: what does new BC quests have to do with SM level alts? |
| 11:35.54 | Undine | odd, i can't move baggins_fu around |
| 11:36.02 | Mikk | Nargiddley: cheers for recoding the baggins layout engine so sections aren't hooked to eachother anymore =) |
| 11:36.27 | Nargiddley | Mikk, i did what now ? |
| 11:36.46 | Mikk | some revs ago, if i grabbed hold of a section and dragged it, all lower sections would tag along |
| 11:36.50 | Mikk | this no longer happens |
| 11:37.05 | Nargiddley | i havent touched it afaik |
| 11:37.10 | Mikk | o.O |
| 11:37.17 | Mikk | well it wasn't me either :P |
| 11:37.30 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42837 10DrDamage/ (Data/Warrior.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 11:37.30 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 11:37.30 | CIA-22 | - Added warrior talents |
| 11:38.38 | Nargiddley | its still hooking them together unless it was changed in the past few hours :P |
| 11:38.56 | Nargiddley | maybe you're grabbing the title ? |
| 11:38.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:35] <JoshBorke> sag_ich_nicht: what does new BC quests have to do with SM level alts? <--they added low level quests as well, you know that, right? :P |
| 11:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | also midlevel quests |
| 11:39.28 | sag_ich_nicht | e.g. in ashenvale there's a bunch of new quests, same for swamp of sorrows |
| 11:40.20 | sag_ich_nicht | so unless we are talking lvl 39 pvp toons |
| 11:40.24 | sag_ich_nicht | SM is slower :P |
| 11:41.36 | JoshBorke | well fine then, be right! |
| 11:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | always :P |
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| 11:42.18 | Elkano | is there any good addon to keep track of your alts posessions, mainly from the item point of view and not the char one. meaning I'm more interested that I have a specific recipe than that char A happens to have a recipe |
| 11:42.28 | JoshBorke | sanity |
| 11:43.34 | sag_ich_nicht | * The game tooltip now handles periodic updates directly instead of requiring OnUpdate functions in each button that might have a tooltip. Many of the related OnEnter functions now take a 'self' parameter, so AddOns will need to be updated to reflect this change. |
| 11:43.43 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 11:43.47 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 11:43.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Elkano: try character profiler |
| 11:44.04 | sag_ich_nicht | or was it character viewer? dunno anymore, they interact with each other anway |
| 11:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | *anyway |
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| 11:45.13 | Undine | i think i used to use characterstorageinfo |
| 11:45.22 | Gagorian | Question. Can you think of any debuffs in the game that reduce only melee damage percentually, not all damage? |
| 11:45.25 | Nargiddley | night |
| 11:45.36 | JoshBorke | debuffs? |
| 11:45.44 | JoshBorke | curse of weakness? |
| 11:45.54 | Elkano | j #wowace-dev |
| 11:45.59 | Gagorian | It's not percentually, I mean.. Like Reduces melee damage caused by 10% |
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| 11:46.18 | Gagorian | I can only think of stuff that reduces all damage, like vile sludge, vile slime etc |
| 11:46.41 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 11:46.41 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 11:46.43 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check |
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| 11:50.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Apply+Aura%3A+Mod+Dmg+%25%22 |
| 11:50.44 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 11:50.47 | Mikk | Actually, re: DragLib .... you could conceivably even drag-enable dewdrop menus and tablets |
| 11:51.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll have to look if there is some debuff |
| 11:51.02 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 11:51.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian: http://www.thottbot.com/?e=1322 |
| 11:53.25 | Gagorian | Yar, shadow embrace at least |
| 11:53.32 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 11:53.32 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.thottbot.com/?s=Apply+Aura+Mod+Dmg |
| 11:54.22 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll try looking if there are some overlooked ones |
| 11:54.39 | Gagorian | I'm just wondering since.. |
| 11:54.43 | Gagorian | #api UnitDamage |
| 11:54.45 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: lowDmg, hiDmg, offlowDmg, offhiDmg, posBuff, negBuff, percentmod = UnitDamage("unit"); |
| 11:54.54 | Gagorian | returns percentmod for melee attacks |
| 11:55.21 | Gagorian | If I can use it for spells as well, to catch area wide buffs etc without having to localize/enter the name |
| 11:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | dunno. |
| 11:55.58 | Gagorian | That's what I'm trying to figure out. If something modifies only physical damage and I use it, then obviously it wont work |
| 11:56.08 | Gagorian | But, generally effects are all damage and it would work |
| 11:56.29 | Gagorian | Shadow embrace and Naturalist are the only problems I've located so far |
| 11:56.42 | Gagorian | Easier to negate those, than to add ~15 buffs |
| 11:56.47 | Gagorian | SO FAR |
| 12:00.04 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42838 10DragLib/DragLib-1.0/DragLib-1.0.lua: |
| 12:00.04 | CIA-22 | DragLib: |
| 12:00.04 | CIA-22 | - Rename "ADD" back to "MOVE". Seems to make more sense. |
| 12:00.04 | CIA-22 | - Call AcceptHandler(testonly) once before RemoveHandler and see if it wants to copy or link - if so, we don't even have to call the removehandler. |
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| 12:03.01 | sag_ich_nicht | wow. i just calculated the max +stealth value a rogue can ever aquire... Apply Aura: Stealth Level Modifier +76 |
| 12:03.05 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 12:04.16 | Mikk | ebbeh |
| 12:04.57 | sag_ich_nicht | considering one level is 5 of these points |
| 12:05.27 | Mikk | you'd bloody be able to stand on top of people without showing yourself |
| 12:05.29 | Elkano | what's the max +movespeed unmounted? ;) |
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| 12:05.37 | sag_ich_nicht | 8% |
| 12:05.43 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't stack. |
| 12:05.46 | Mikk | like a 60 standing next to a 45 |
| 12:05.50 | sag_ich_nicht | boot enchant or gem is the best you can do |
| 12:05.54 | sag_ich_nicht | a NE rogue with all +stealth equip possible and the talent would get a stealth level of 85,2 |
| 12:06.12 | Elkano | pickpocket on players: "I wanna steal his pants!" |
| 12:06.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:05] <sag_ich_nicht> doesn't stack. <--which is also why +movement speed talents are a waste imho |
| 12:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and |
| 12:07.08 | sag_ich_nicht | of course all +stealth buffs, too |
| 12:10.22 | Thelyna | is it possible to make CandyBar bars into clickable buttons? or would I be better off writing something for myself? |
| 12:10.45 | evl | Thelyna: SetCandyBarOnClick |
| 12:11.00 | Thelyna | thanks |
| 12:14.39 | Thelyna | little background: I'm trying to write a mod to show bars for my short buffs (blessing of freedom/sacrifice) - I guess I get to keep track of which bar = which person and which buff and then use SetCandyBarOnClick to make clicking the bar recast the buff on that person? |
| 12:15.08 | [Ammo] | no can do with candybar |
| 12:15.17 | [Ammo] | since you'd need a secure button for that |
| 12:15.27 | Thelyna | drat |
| 12:15.28 | [Ammo] | I'd suggest gettting PallyPower |
| 12:15.32 | Thelyna | I was afraid you'd say that |
| 12:15.32 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42839 10DragLib/DragLib-1.0/DragLib-1.0.lua: DragLib: Sigh. Un-bug the AcceptObject pre-test -- it wasn't passing "MOVE" for moves. |
| 12:15.38 | Thelyna | I'm using that |
| 12:15.38 | [Ammo] | works fine for keeping track and setting your blessings |
| 12:15.50 | Thelyna | but it doesn't track the short buffs |
| 12:16.00 | Mikk | [Ammo]: It'd be very useful to have a SetCandyBarOnEnter/Leave |
| 12:16.15 | Mikk | That way you could overlay a candbybar with an unattached secure button while mousing over it |
| 12:16.34 | Thelyna | and also I want something on screen for when I hit someone with BoSac and forget to renew it |
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| 12:17.10 | [Ammo] | Mikk: feel free to ad |
| 12:17.13 | [Ammo] | +d |
| 12:17.27 | Thelyna | actually, that's a point .. could I just overlay the timer bars with a button? |
| 12:17.39 | Mikk | yes you can, but you can't tell where the timer bar is right now |
| 12:17.54 | Mikk | unless i'm mistaken |
| 12:18.34 | Mikk | actually you can if you're not using a group |
| 12:18.45 | Gagorian | #api UnitDamage |
| 12:18.47 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: lowDmg, hiDmg, offlowDmg, offhiDmg, posBuff, negBuff, percentmod = UnitDamage("unit"); |
| 12:18.51 | Mikk | and you probably don't want to use a group if you want to be able to have secure buttons on top of them |
| 12:18.56 | Mikk | since you can't move the secure buttons in combat |
| 12:19.02 | Mikk | so yeah you can overlay it just fine as-is |
| 12:19.02 | [Ammo] | Mikk: you can still get the position |
| 12:19.15 | Mikk | yeah, and width and height since you configure that yourself |
| 12:19.15 | [Ammo] | CandyBar.handlers["mycandybarname"].frame ... |
| 12:19.21 | [Ammo] | setpoint and go |
| 12:19.25 | [Ammo] | to overlay |
| 12:19.54 | Mikk | Thelyna: gogo =) |
| 12:20.28 | Mikk | if you want an example of minimalistic secure overlay handling, check out the beginning of the dewdrop source file |
| 12:20.36 | Thelyna | ah and if I want to keep track of several people's buffs I just make individual bars and keep track of them all and their position in my code? |
| 12:20.42 | Mikk | yes |
| 12:20.58 | Mikk | the key is not moving them while in combat |
| 12:21.20 | [Ammo] | just make sure you remove the setpoint from the overlay when the bar is done |
| 12:21.28 | [Ammo] | SetCandyBarCompletion is what you need |
| 12:21.35 | [Ammo] | because the frames are recycled |
| 12:21.38 | [Ammo] | and you'll have a problem |
| 12:21.46 | Mikk | can't remove the setpoint in combat :S |
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| 12:22.08 | [Ammo] | then you're fuxored :p |
| 12:22.13 | Mikk | actually, you won't ever want to setpoint against another frame |
| 12:22.20 | Mikk | because that turns the anchor frame secure |
| 12:22.25 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 12:22.34 | Mikk | just read the code in dewdrop -- it just figures out global positioning of the frame and places the overlay on top |
| 12:23.04 | Thelyna | is this the right time to mention I've never tried to play with secure frames before? |
| 12:23.08 | Mikk | yes |
| 12:23.11 | Mikk | go read the dewdrop code =) |
| 12:23.18 | Thelyna | will do :) |
| 12:23.22 | Mikk | it's lolsilly |
| 12:23.40 | Mikk | And read http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview |
| 12:24.42 | Thelyna | read that |
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| 12:25.00 | Thelyna | which basically boils down to 'don't mess with stuff in combat, do it all beforehand' |
| 12:25.18 | Thelyna | which I think I can cope with |
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| 12:29.24 | Thelyna | think probably the first thing to do is see if I can make a secure button to bless myself |
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| 12:32.08 | Wobin_ | secureframe headers are the work of the devil |
| 12:32.39 | okoloth | hi there, i have added a feature to FuBar_TopScoreFu-r42702.4 and produced a patch for it, i am confused as to where i submit it, ckknight's wowinterface 'portal' doesnt list it as one of his plugins anymore, who should i submit the patch to? |
| 12:33.36 | trh | okoloth: you can send it to his email adress |
| 12:34.24 | Gagorian | Any druid with the naturalist talent here? |
| 12:34.29 | okoloth | np :) thanks |
| 12:34.29 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42840 10RangeCheck/: RangeCheck: moved to RangeDisplay |
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| 12:35.50 | Thrae | Gagorian: It rocks. Why do you ask? |
| 12:36.23 | Gagorian | Thrae: I need to see if it affects UnitDamage returns. Could you check it? select(7,UnitDamage("player")) should be fine :) |
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| 12:37.15 | Thrae | Gagorian: I don't have a working computer w/ WoW right now =/ |
| 12:37.53 | Gagorian | Hrmm. :/ |
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| 12:39.18 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42841 10/branches/ (Bartender3/ Bartender4/): .Bartender3/4: removed branches |
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| 12:39.43 | [Ammo] | ooh no more BT4 branch/ |
| 12:40.45 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42842 10/branches/Bartender3/ (. nevcairiel/): Bartender3: creating new branch directory |
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| 12:41.21 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07nevcairiel * r42843 10Bartender3/Bartender3/: Bartender3: branch the trunk again |
| 12:44.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalestab nevcairiel |
| 12:44.45 | purl | ACTION stabs nevcairiel with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 12:44.51 | nevcairiel | ~whaleparry sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:44.52 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry sag_ich_nicht's attacks. |
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| 12:47.21 | striper | mornin guys, saroz awake? |
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| 12:58.57 | sbu | so no BT4? :/ |
| 12:59.08 | Health | Can you have castbars in Aloft on more targets than the one you're targeting? |
| 12:59.31 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:59.40 | [Ammo] | maybe on your focus |
| 12:59.41 | [Ammo] | but not sure |
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| 13:02.32 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: ping |
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| 13:04.46 | nevcairiel | Anyone know how good Threat works with different client locale in the same raid yet? |
| 13:04.53 | nevcairiel | is the translator thingy working good? |
| 13:06.01 | charon | nevcairiel: there was a race condition that i helped debug, i think he's got it nailed but i haven't had the chance to really test yet. other than that, flawless |
| 13:06.20 | Thelyna | is there a list somewhere of 'standard' events in ace? I gather UNIT_BUFF is a renamed UNIT_AURA, but what are the ace events that deal with spellcasting and the like? |
| 13:06.26 | mitch0 | threat (or omen, not quite sure which) didn't quite worked for me yesterday. all sorts of false readings. all the others in the raid run ktm though... |
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| 13:07.02 | Thelyna | or am I completely misunderstanding the nature of AceEvent? |
| 13:07.36 | [Ammo] | you are |
| 13:07.59 | [Ammo] | there are no renamed events |
| 13:08.13 | Thrae | Thelyna: Wow events are not renamed in AceEvent. For a list of all Wow events, look at http://wowwiki.com, left side, Event API. |
| 13:08.19 | Thrae | s/left side/right side/ |
| 13:08.31 | [Ammo] | addons that fire events do so (normally) in the following way: Addon_Event example for bigwigs messages: BigWigs_Message |
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| 13:09.09 | CGI073 | whewt |
| 13:09.22 | Thelyna | ah okay, so if I'm looking for spell sent/succeeded I just register the normal wow events? |
| 13:09.33 | Thrae | Yes. |
| 13:09.54 | [Ammo] | correct |
| 13:09.56 | Thelyna | <- new to working with Ace libraries =/ |
| 13:10.26 | Thrae | The default registration for AceEvent handles wow events by just pushing the event out to the handlers, just like Frame:RegisterEvent, except its handled all in Lua instead of the underlying Wow Lua engine. |
| 13:10.40 | Josh_Borke | which is a tiny bit slower |
| 13:11.05 | [Ammo] | but also very flexible |
| 13:11.14 | Josh_Borke | yes, much more flexible |
| 13:11.27 | [Ammo] | and easy mapping of event to function etc |
| 13:11.33 | Thrae | The bonuses for newer coders and all coders being self:UnregisterAllEvents(), and additions like bucketed events, custom events, and custom timed events. |
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| 13:11.42 | Thrae | Right, that too. |
| 13:11.46 | Josh_Borke | bucketed events are nice |
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| 13:12.44 | [Ammo] | Thelyna: simple example for casting events http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Necronomicon2/Modules/Summon.lua |
| 13:13.06 | Thrae | Mostly as a new coder you will probably like self:UnregisterAllEvents(), and the ease of self:RegisterEvent(eventName, handlerName), instead of needing to make your own OnEvent handler (which would be for ALL events). |
| 13:13.35 | [Ammo] | Thrae: and unregsiterall is automatically done on disable which is handy |
| 13:13.44 | [Ammo] | wowa mad typo |
| 13:13.54 | mitch0 | well, that 4 liner OnEvent() isn't exactly hard to steat^H^H^H^Hwrite :) |
| 13:14.12 | [Ammo] | it isn't indeed |
| 13:14.47 | Thrae | Josh_Borke: Honestly, if there are a few Ace/Dongle/whatever addons, the speed decrease is in like nanoseconds. |
| 13:15.17 | Josh_Borke | thrae: well, obviously. it would probably only matter over the course of 24 hours and then only be 1 second probably |
| 13:15.44 | Thrae | Josh_Borke: But it's never -faster- ;) |
| 13:15.53 | [Ammo] | true that |
| 13:15.55 | Thrae | Which was probably your point. |
| 13:15.58 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 13:16.06 | Josh_Borke | but, in whomod i overcame that limitation |
| 13:16.11 | [Ammo] | I don't think anyone ever claimed that |
| 13:16.16 | Josh_Borke | all event handling takes place in O(1) |
| 13:16.21 | Thrae | Especially come the next patch, where slouken is greatly increasing the speed of pushing out all types of events. |
| 13:16.26 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 13:16.34 | Josh_Borke | gief proof |
| 13:17.05 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Lots of people in the Ace community claim that, but not anyone really knowledgable about how Ace works (obviously). |
| 13:17.51 | Mikk | Yer, there's lots of people that'll code their arses off before they call an API |
| 13:17.57 | Mikk | Without even testing if callign the API is faster |
| 13:18.01 | Josh_Borke | * Improved interface loading time and reduced script memory usage by about 50% :-D |
| 13:18.52 | Sole | ^ even though I load in a few seconds anyway I still love hearing that :P |
| 13:18.54 | Thrae | When Ace1 was still in beta, the shared event system (which is basically the same as Ace2's, it's trivial to code) really was a good bit faster. But slouken has made massive improvements since then, especially with 2.0. |
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| 13:19.50 | Thrae | It used to be that getting a Widget's method was O(n), where n == number of methods for that widget *shudders* |
| 13:20.12 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 13:20.13 | nevcairiel | eww |
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| 13:20.47 | Thrae | Hence why TinyTip v1.x used a thousand upvalues (IE, getAlpha = GameTooltip.GetAlpha, etc.) |
| 13:21.43 | Thrae | You can still get a tiny amount of speed increase avoiding the index, but it's really trivial now unless you're doing it in an OnUpdate every frame |
| 13:21.56 | Thrae | Or something that's basically called every frame |
| 13:22.11 | [Ammo] | most of the time spent in code is not the event -> func anyway |
| 13:22.16 | [Ammo] | it's the actually body of the func |
| 13:22.32 | mitch0 | thrae: so it's still useful to cache :SetText() for example, if I call that 10x per sec? |
| 13:22.43 | Thrae | Right, we're not talking about that, though ;) |
| 13:22.51 | Thrae | mitch0: Yep. |
| 13:22.57 | [Ammo] | true |
| 13:23.11 | Thrae | mitch0: It's useful to cache ANY hash if you're using it like 10x per second. |
| 13:23.13 | [Ammo] | but a lot of people look at the wrong things to optimize :) |
| 13:23.55 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Well I'm not saying do this at the expense of all other optimizations, but it's a good optimization to do for like mitch0's situation ;) |
| 13:24.08 | [Ammo] | I agree |
| 13:24.14 | [Ammo] | new profiling functions <3 |
| 13:24.37 | Thrae | I rarely see it, though. I do agree it can get confusing to yourself and other coders. |
| 13:24.41 | Health | Are you in love with the new profiling functions? |
| 13:24.54 | [Ammo] | yeah that and the addons making them easy to use |
| 13:24.57 | Health | Just to get things clear. |
| 13:24.58 | [Ammo] | Expo DebugFu etc |
| 13:25.11 | Health | Nice. Man to machine love. |
| 13:25.16 | Health | Is there a name for that? |
| 13:25.41 | striper | Sodomachine? |
| 13:25.57 | abug | scientology |
| 13:26.00 | abug | oh wait |
| 13:26.28 | mitch0 | oh, I actually solved that optimization in an other way. I don't call SetText 10x / sec. /phew |
| 13:27.13 | [Ammo] | smart man |
| 13:27.44 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42844 10DrDamage/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:27.44 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 13:27.44 | CIA-22 | - Use select(7,UnitDamage("player")) to catch global damage modifier, and for |
| 13:27.44 | CIA-22 | casters modify it according to what global physical only % modifiers are applied |
| 13:27.44 | CIA-22 | (currently Shadow Embrace and Naturalist, is there anything else?) |
| 13:27.45 | CIA-22 | - Stripped and Optimized what buffs/debuffs are written into tables |
| 13:27.47 | CIA-22 | - Loads melee module now for hunters, rogues and warriors |
| 13:29.02 | abug | what about enhancement shamans? |
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| 13:30.02 | Gagorian | abug: I'll do hybrids last |
| 13:30.11 | mitch0 | is "%d - %d":format(min, max) faster than tostring(min) .. " - " .. tostring(max) ? |
| 13:30.17 | Josh_Borke | * Slash command resolutions are cached in hash_SlashCmdList, so be sure to update it if you replace any existing slash commands in your code. :-D |
| 13:30.24 | Gagorian | mitch0: No |
| 13:30.32 | Gagorian | Simple concatenation is a lot faster |
| 13:30.35 | mitch0 | ok |
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| 13:30.50 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke: Like I just did for oRA2. |
| 13:30.52 | Gagorian | you dont need to do tostring() |
| 13:30.52 | mitch0 | guesses as much, but I've seen some strange optimization tips on wiki :) |
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| 13:31.12 | mitch0 | gagorian: even if min is number? |
| 13:31.14 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: :-) |
| 13:31.15 | Gagorian | even if |
| 13:31.21 | mitch0 | I remember having issues with that |
| 13:31.22 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke: http://wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/oRA2/Core.lua#L224 |
| 13:31.24 | Gagorian | Simple concatenation does it automagically |
| 13:31.25 | mitch0 | could be wrong though |
| 13:31.48 | Gagorian | Well, my entire tooltips are filled with numbers concatenated with strings and I don't use a single tostring :P |
| 13:31.52 | mitch0 | maybe it was just with nil's then I got used to it... |
| 13:32.00 | Gagorian | Then sure |
| 13:32.20 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: that should make slash command conflict resolution easier no? |
| 13:32.32 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke: no, not really |
| 13:32.35 | kebinusan | anyone know if there is a wow model viewer type app for linux |
| 13:32.43 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke: it's only added to the cache when the slash command is _used_ |
| 13:32.44 | Josh_Borke | well, collision detection easier, no? |
| 13:32.46 | vhaarr | so on login |
| 13:32.47 | Josh_Borke | oh, blast |
| 13:32.48 | vhaarr | it won't be there |
| 13:32.51 | mitch0 | but it shouldn't really matter performance-wise, or should it? I mean, the conversion has to be done once anyway |
| 13:33.41 | mitch0 | gagorian: ^^ that's aimed at yo |
| 13:33.46 | mitch0 | you even |
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| 13:42.10 | abug | why does endless recursion have to cause a crash =/ |
| 13:42.19 | cryogen | stack overflow? |
| 13:43.16 | cogwheel | shouldn't cause a WoW crash though |
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| 13:43.22 | Josh_Borke | it locks up wow |
| 13:43.26 | Josh_Borke | since it gets stuck |
| 13:43.28 | abug | well it does in metatables |
| 13:43.42 | cogwheel | probably because it crosses the C-Lua boundary then |
| 13:44.18 | cryogen | you're probably overflowing the C stack at some point as well |
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| 13:44.31 | cryogen | but that should be a hard crash, not a freeze |
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| 13:44.44 | Thrae | Right, which is whatabug said |
| 13:44.53 | cogwheel | freeze would happen if it's a ... what are they called... tail recursion? |
| 13:45.01 | Thrae | Lua crashes with endless recursion, unless you use pcall |
| 13:45.05 | cogwheel | since it's not actually creating a new stack frame |
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| 13:45.19 | Thrae | tail recursion is usually rolled out into a loop |
| 13:45.35 | cogwheel | Thrae: that's why it would freeze and not crash |
| 13:45.39 | Thrae | Right |
| 13:45.50 | cogwheel | but I've seen lua give a stack overflow error |
| 13:45.58 | cogwheel | not simply crash on infinite recursion |
| 13:46.20 | cryogen | depends which stack you overflow :) |
| 13:46.28 | Thrae | Probably because the addon used pcall? |
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| 13:46.40 | abug | it was a metatable with __index, I forgot to use rawget |
| 13:46.44 | cogwheel | Still don't think anything in addon land should cause wow to crash outright :P |
| 13:47.09 | cryogen | well it's hard to prevent overflowing the C stack |
| 13:47.20 | cryogen | and if you have a lua function which goes to and from C more than it goes to and from lua, it's possible |
| 13:47.35 | mitch0 | cryogen: but catching the exception shouldn't be that hard... |
| 13:47.59 | cryogen | yeah but how do you recover? you dont, and you get a wow crash report thing instead |
| 13:48.24 | mitch0 | yeah, recovery is kinda hard :) |
| 13:48.44 | cryogen | the exception will be handled, thats what the report tool is :) |
| 13:49.27 | mitch0 | unless you give a fresh stack to lua whenever you enter an addon code (lie OnUpdate) and just throw away that stack if it fills up and treat the call as a noop |
| 13:49.54 | mitch0 | it would could still potentially leave a large mess around though |
| 13:50.08 | Gagorian | Any soul link warlock here? Would need to run /print select(7,UnitDamage("player")) |
| 13:50.13 | Gagorian | With soul link active |
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| 13:55.21 | cryogen | mitch0: the point is if the stack overflows you lose where you came from :) |
| 13:55.34 | cryogen | regardless if it was new or not |
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| 13:58.55 | mitch0 | but you could treat the whole affair as if you haven't even started to go there :) |
| 13:59.26 | cryogen | what if some part of the wow engine caused a stack overflow? :) |
| 13:59.36 | mitch0 | I'm not talking about that |
| 13:59.44 | mitch0 | just a separate stack for the addons |
| 13:59.50 | Thrae | Someone give me a name of an armour |
| 13:59.54 | Gagorian | tbh, addon developers should get constant access to PTR with selectable level 70 chars of different classes! |
| 13:59.56 | mitch0 | then you can just disable that addon if it fills up its stack |
| 14:00.08 | cryogen | yeah but if you overflow, you hit an exception handler, and dont know where you came from |
| 14:00.09 | Josh_Borke | Thrae: Frozen Shadoweave Boots |
| 14:00.13 | mitch0 | gagor: that would be teh awesomeness |
| 14:00.40 | mitch0 | yes you do. you know you cram from addon:onupdate |
| 14:00.44 | Gagorian | Getting random players to do this and that is pissing me off :D |
| 14:00.56 | mitch0 | and ditch the whole thing. |
| 14:01.38 | cryogen | mitch0: if you overflow the stack you lose that information.. its overflowed :) |
| 14:01.49 | mitch0 | gagorian has it been brought up with the blizz guys? |
| 14:02.04 | mitch0 | but you overflow a _different_ stack, not yours |
| 14:02.24 | cryogen | doesnt matter, you overflow the execution stack which buggers everything up |
| 14:03.07 | cryogen | your stack can be safely stored aware but you cant get at it, because you're in an exception handler with no idea how you got there, other than a stack overflow |
| 14:03.16 | cryogen | aware/away |
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| 14:04.15 | trh | ~seen adirelle |
| 14:04.19 | purl | adirelle <n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 6m 27s ago, saying: 'night'. |
| 14:08.08 | abug | is there a list of functions that require hardware events? |
| 14:08.51 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42845 10DrDamage/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:08.51 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:08.51 | CIA-22 | - Updated the auras in each individual module to conform with the changes of my last commit |
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| 14:11.47 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42846 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 14:11.47 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:11.47 | CIA-22 | - added "Deep Wound" to BS ("Deep Wound" is the Debuff/Combat Log Event, "Deep Wounds" is the Talent) |
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| 14:13.31 | CIA-22 | Chronometer: |
| 14:13.31 | CIA-22 | - some changes to get "Deep Wound" Debuff shown in Chronometer |
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| 14:20.50 | Saint-N | meh |
| 14:22.20 | Neebler | hmm what enchant to 1h weapon causes the most threat? |
| 14:22.43 | Saint-N | unholy procs like a mofo |
| 14:22.46 | Saint-N | or lifestealer |
| 14:22.54 | ashai|hc | at level 70? |
| 14:23.04 | Neebler | yes, for my suneater on my protection warrior |
| 14:23.15 | Saint-N | battlemaster ;P |
| 14:23.19 | Neebler | well not my warrior. its my friends but I'm getting it enchanted |
| 14:23.20 | mitch0 | there is that one that heals the whole party. dunno if that causes any threat though |
| 14:23.23 | Saint-N | damage+healing aggro |
| 14:23.25 | ashai|hc | mongoose is one ofthe best |
| 14:23.40 | ashai|hc | additional change to dodge and increased attackspeed |
| 14:23.59 | Saint-N | go battlemaster |
| 14:24.05 | Saint-N | thats the one that heals yer party |
| 14:24.10 | mitch0 | ah |
| 14:24.16 | mitch0 | and it does cause threat? |
| 14:24.18 | Saint-N | i cant imagine them NOT giving threat from it |
| 14:24.27 | durcyn | battlemaster does cause threat, but the proc late is low |
| 14:24.30 | durcyn | rate* |
| 14:24.32 | Saint-N | oh really? |
| 14:24.33 | ashai|hc | threat is only part of what a warrior wants from an enchant though tbh as a mt you want that dodge |
| 14:24.45 | Saint-N | that kind of sucks |
| 14:24.48 | mitch0 | I wonder if my frozen shadoweave set bonus also gives me threat or not (2% healing from damage. goddarn useless) |
| 14:24.50 | durcyn | less than the old 6ppm crusader, at least. |
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| 14:25.04 | durcyn | mitch0: it's superb with lifetap! |
| 14:25.15 | Saint-N | its funny solo though mitch |
| 14:25.15 | mitch0 | imma mage |
| 14:25.23 | Saint-N | (9)!! |
| 14:25.24 | Saint-N | 11 |
| 14:25.26 | Saint-N | 12! |
| 14:25.30 | Gnancy | 49 |
| 14:25.37 | mitch0 | I disabled that display :) |
| 14:25.37 | ashai|hc | badger! |
| 14:25.46 | Saint-N | heh blue sky hut hut hut!~ |
| 14:25.48 | mitch0 | I can't get rid of the whoosh whoosh though |
| 14:26.36 | Neebler | this conversation just turned nutty |
| 14:26.38 | mitch0 | besides, I hardly ever get hit when I'm soloing |
| 14:27.24 | cryogen | must suck to get that set then decide you dont like frost anymore |
| 14:27.32 | mitch0 | won't happen |
| 14:27.38 | mitch0 | been frost from day1 :) |
| 14:27.42 | cryogen | or for frost immune mobs :D |
| 14:27.45 | mitch0 | 0/0/61 is the best |
| 14:27.51 | mitch0 | (for me) |
| 14:27.56 | ashai|hc | hmm I dont understand why you would level frost |
| 14:28.03 | cryogen | i almost have the shoulders |
| 14:28.10 | cryogen | just need one more cloth cooldown |
| 14:28.19 | Moltarain | ROFL |
| 14:28.20 | cryogen | insane amount of primals needed tho in total :) |
| 14:29.02 | deltron | I need an insane amount of primals now |
| 14:29.05 | deltron | 350 LW :( |
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| 14:29.53 | cryogen | i need 190 in total |
| 14:29.57 | cryogen | for the stuff i want :) |
| 14:29.58 | Saint-N | what sucks is that i have it as a shadow preist and have NO frost spells ;P |
| 14:30.13 | cryogen | Saint-N: why does that suck? its the same for both |
| 14:30.20 | mitch0 | saint: I don't have any shadow spells either. so? |
| 14:30.25 | Saint-N | yeah but i DO have fire spells ;P |
| 14:30.28 | mitch0 | it's still the best set for me at the moment |
| 14:30.30 | cryogen | no you dont |
| 14:30.43 | Saint-N | holy fire is fire last time i looked anyways |
| 14:30.48 | jme | so someone on my server has the phoenix mount |
| 14:30.52 | cryogen | holy fire has been holy for quite some time :) |
| 14:30.53 | jme | it looks freaking cool |
| 14:30.56 | Saint-N | oh |
| 14:31.00 | Saint-N | well fine! |
| 14:31.02 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 14:31.16 | Saint-N | is the shadow better than the mage set? |
| 14:31.25 | cryogen | spellfire? |
| 14:31.30 | Saint-N | or is that fire and arcane |
| 14:31.35 | cryogen | it's fire and arcane |
| 14:31.37 | Saint-N | ahh |
| 14:31.41 | cryogen | and the same i think, or at least similar |
| 14:31.55 | cryogen | might be slightly more crit focused |
| 14:32.04 | ashai|hc | Saint-N: lol |
| 14:33.34 | Saint-N | i should go home and go to bed |
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| 14:40.37 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42848 10DrDamage/ (Data/Rogue.lua Melee.lua): |
| 14:40.37 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:40.37 | CIA-22 | - Fix for abilities that can't crit |
| 14:40.59 | cryogen | rogues have abilities that cant crit? |
| 14:41.11 | cryogen | hmm stuns i guess |
| 14:41.27 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: how do i change the width of a candybar? :o |
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| 14:43.14 | kenlyric | so many jokes, so little time. |
| 14:43.44 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: SetCandyBarWidth |
| 14:44.00 | nevcairiel | thats not documented in the wiki, fyi :P |
| 14:44.35 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r42849 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 14:44.35 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:44.35 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW: Spell |
| 14:49.04 | mitch0 | anyone knows how much the gladiator gloves cost? |
| 14:49.22 | binder | 1125? |
| 14:49.23 | Saint-N | quite a bit, after all russel crowe wore them! |
| 14:49.33 | mitch0 | hm. that's not too much. nice |
| 14:49.53 | mitch0 | need to buy it to test RangeCheck with it... bloody range modifying bonus |
| 14:49.58 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: I did not do the wiki documentation, it was a gift from someone :) |
| 14:50.10 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 14:50.36 | [Ammo] | but width and height can be set that way |
| 14:50.44 | [Ammo] | and scale |
| 14:51.12 | nevcairiel | some requested a option to change the bar width in HotCandy |
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| 14:51.16 | nevcairiel | so i implemented that |
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| 14:52.32 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42850 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: added an option to configure the bar width |
| 14:53.29 | wogi | [Ammo]: I had a problem with AG_unitframes, I have an heal hotkey i select by pressing alt + 4, for example. Now if I have alt pressed I can't select a player/partymember it only works just with left click without alt/shift/control, any chance you can fix that problem with AG? |
| 14:54.00 | Health | Funny. |
| 14:54.28 | [Ammo] | wogi: weird |
| 14:54.40 | binder | hmm drdamage is doing what side of melee? |
| 14:54.41 | binder | druid yet? |
| 14:54.45 | wogi | Maybe it's because of alt is the key for moving the bar even while its locked? |
| 14:55.12 | wogi | [Ammo]: I now solved this by installing click2cast and bind left mouse-key -> select unit. |
| 14:55.24 | wogi | But thats not the nicest solution ;) |
| 15:02.00 | [Ammo] | bind alt-leftmousekey to heal :p |
| 15:02.07 | [Ammo] | no more alt-4 for healing |
| 15:02.09 | [Ammo] | altclick ftw |
| 15:02.14 | wogi | no no ;) |
| 15:02.21 | wogi | hey i think thats just a regular bug. fix it :D |
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| 15:05.00 | [Ammo] | wogi: I dunno if it's a regular bug :p |
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| 15:07.57 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42851 10ItemValue/Class_Formula.lua: |
| 15:07.57 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 15:07.57 | CIA-22 | - Added some missing desc and useage fields |
| 15:08.47 | Mikk | (who CIA-22 |
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| 15:18.01 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42852 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: should now automagically detect when you are wearing a set with a bonus that will modify the time of your hots - thanks to Antiarc for the set-scan-func in Threat-1.0 :) |
| 15:19.30 | wogi | automagically? ;D |
| 15:19.57 | xb95 | good word |
| 15:20.00 | nevcairiel | automatically with some magic :P |
| 15:20.01 | wogi | ya luv it |
| 15:20.03 | wogi | yes ;D |
| 15:20.35 | wogi | nevcairiel: How does this work with updating addons, you have special privileges to do it or can everyone do it? |
| 15:20.55 | nevcairiel | you have to request a account |
| 15:22.06 | wogi | And if you update it will it be instantly live on wowace.com? |
| 15:22.19 | nevcairiel | the page only updates every 20 minutes |
| 15:22.30 | wogi | oh alright |
| 15:22.30 | mitch0 | nev: what's the name of that set-scan-func? :) |
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| 15:22.44 | nevcairiel | look at hotcandy |
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| 15:22.49 | nevcairiel | i copied it there |
| 15:22.52 | Mikk | AHA! |
| 15:23.04 | Mikk | there we go... n=51e9ec1a == my ip. in hex. |
| 15:23.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:23.34 | cryogen | could have told you that :p |
| 15:23.50 | Mikk | point is it wasn't telling me my ip earlier |
| 15:23.54 | Mikk | it was telling me the IP of the squid cache |
| 15:23.59 | Mikk | which is less than useful |
| 15:24.00 | cryogen | ahha |
| 15:24.15 | CGI142 | blah blah blah ban meeeehhh! |
| 15:24.47 | cryogen | im not sure if this network supports it, but there are ircd extensions to get it to set the actual hostname too |
| 15:25.07 | Mikk | yeah but you shouldn't need it tbh |
| 15:25.20 | Mikk | just ban username@www.wowace.com and you're good |
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| 15:25.42 | Mikk | granted, if someoen with ops gets a little quickdraw and bans all of www.wowace.com the irc cgi won't be much good |
| 15:25.54 | cryogen | you can probably apply to have it cloaks to something too |
| 15:26.01 | cryogen | some kind of gateway cloak |
| 15:26.03 | mitch0 | nev: isn't UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED called whenever you loot something and such? or just when the stuff you wear changes? |
| 15:26.10 | cryogen | s/cloaks/cloaked/ |
| 15:26.12 | Thrae | Someone give me an off-hand item and weapon |
| 15:26.56 | mitch0 | huh? |
| 15:27.26 | nevcairiel | mitch0: gimme a better event then :P |
| 15:27.56 | nevcairiel | its called when i remove a item from inventory because i equip it |
| 15:28.00 | nevcairiel | thats good enough now ;) |
| 15:28.03 | mitch0 | can't :) I just have a similar problem, and was hoping you might say it only updates on equipment change :) |
| 15:28.27 | Adirelle | any hunter tried scorpids with poison, I heard it's quite amazing |
| 15:28.30 | Adirelle | ? |
| 15:28.51 | nevcairiel | the bugged poison? |
| 15:28.59 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r42853 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: Added enUS haste related patterns. |
| 15:29.04 | mitch0 | are there any other items/item buffs other than the gladiator gloves for mages that change some spell's range? |
| 15:29.59 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: which bugged poison ? |
| 15:30.23 | nevcairiel | there are some pets which do way too much dmg with their poisons because blizz forgot to remove dmg scaling |
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| 15:31.00 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: should be that, I heard of around 800 per tick |
| 15:31.12 | Adirelle | dunno it was considered bugged tho |
| 15:31.18 | nevcairiel | dont get to exited, will prolly(hopefully) be fixed soon :P |
| 15:31.48 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42854 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: use some string.formats instead of concats |
| 15:32.26 | beerke | pets get buffed by attackpower and dmg increases |
| 15:32.41 | beerke | such high numbers can only be generated by a BM hunter in a proper group |
| 15:32.48 | abug | pcall didn't stop wow from crashing =/ |
| 15:33.06 | Thrae | abug: Yeah, I guess it just stays in C, so pcall is never used |
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| 15:33.19 | Thrae | So, anyone name a name of an Off-Hand weapon off the top of their head? |
| 15:33.30 | Antiarc|Work | Gladiator's Left Ripper |
| 15:33.31 | nevcairiel | anything? |
| 15:33.36 | mitch0 | nev: why did you change to format from concat? isn't concat faster? |
| 15:33.36 | Antiarc|Work | Also, good morning |
| 15:33.51 | nevcairiel | Claw of the Phoenix |
| 15:33.54 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: Thanks, that'll do |
| 15:34.18 | Thrae | Parsing armory XML to make #item |
| 15:34.37 | nevcairiel | mitch0: i was chaining strings with the .. operator, which doesnt seem to be too fast last i heard |
| 15:34.49 | mitch0 | antiarc: hi there. there seems to be a bug in omen: If I pull out the agro bar, the normal bars start displaying all sorts of whacky values |
| 15:35.01 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Actually, .. is made into one operation, unlike string.format |
| 15:35.11 | abug | people say table.concat is faster |
| 15:35.14 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Multiple .. in one statement, that is |
| 15:35.27 | Thrae | Hmm, that's not what I heard, but I haven't done tests myself |
| 15:35.38 | nevcairiel | spellName .. " - " .. spellTarget <- faste then formating ? |
| 15:35.40 | abug | for multiple |
| 15:35.52 | Thrae | nevcairiel: It's definately faster then string.format, I know that |
| 15:35.53 | mitch0 | that's what the guys told me before... |
| 15:36.01 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42855 10beql/ (beql.lua localization.lua options.lua): |
| 15:36.01 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 15:36.01 | CIA-22 | - Changed FuBar plugin: Click->Questlog, Shigt+Click->Waterfall |
| 15:36.01 | CIA-22 | - Added function to reset tracker position |
| 15:36.13 | Antiarc|Work | mitch0: That shouldn't affect it... |
| 15:36.17 | Antiarc|Work | ...can you give me any more info? |
| 15:36.24 | mitch0 | anti: I know. yet it seems it does |
| 15:36.31 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: It's something on the order of an order of magnitude faster than string.format |
| 15:36.39 | MentalPower|ZzZz | table.concat is not faster than simple .. |
| 15:36.42 | mitch0 | if I close the pullout bar, things get back to normal(ish) |
| 15:36.43 | Antiarc|Work | mitch0: Okay, I'll look at it. Any other info you can give me? |
| 15:36.50 | MentalPower|ZzZz | die to the fact that it involves an extra function call |
| 15:36.55 | benmaca | Antiarc|Work is there a known bug with lock threat on french clients? |
| 15:36.59 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42856 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: revert last commit :P |
| 15:37.02 | Thrae | MentalPower|ZzZz: Yeah, I'd think that |
| 15:37.05 | MentalPower|ZzZz | they both use the same function internaly, tho |
| 15:37.08 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: lock pet threat isn't scaling right right now |
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| 15:37.16 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: Normal lock threat should be right though |
| 15:37.45 | benmaca | my own aggro and friends lock doesnt show in omen, and sometimes it shows for 50 or 100aggro pts |
| 15:37.58 | mitch0 | anti: the other issue was that during half of the raid I didn't see some members data, and after a wipe or something the MT started showing up. they all use KTM though |
| 15:38.14 | benmaca | i'm dlding an english client to test out if its only on french client or if its a problem with another addon |
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| 15:38.33 | MikkCGI | so.. anyway... worky! |
| 15:38.36 | mitch0 | and this might be related to me closing the pullout bar, which happened around the same time, but I'm not 100% sure about that (didn't notice first) |
| 15:38.56 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: It might be related to my mob translation code. Does your friend also use the french client? |
| 15:39.06 | benmaca | yep |
| 15:39.12 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. That shouldn't trigger it then. |
| 15:39.20 | Antiarc|Work | You guys are both up to date revision-wise? |
| 15:39.25 | benmaca | sure |
| 15:39.34 | mitch0 | I was up-to-date 6 hours ago |
| 15:39.46 | mitch0 | sorry, more like 16 |
| 15:39.59 | benmaca | we still using KTM and i dont even get his KTM infos in my omen |
| 15:40.20 | Antiarc|Work | Very bizarre. That's definitely wrong. |
| 15:40.55 | Antiarc|Work | If you find it working with the English client, let me know |
| 15:41.11 | Antiarc|Work | Also, is there somewhere that I can DL a non-english client for testing? |
| 15:41.17 | benmaca | i will, still dlding the english client |
| 15:41.24 | Antiarc|Work | (I play on the US servers, so I dunno if that will even work) |
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| 15:42.19 | benmaca | idk, need to ask to some french speaking canadian playing US |
| 15:42.26 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that's not a bad idea. |
| 15:42.34 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check over it, but please let me know what you come up with. |
| 15:42.38 | durcyn | yeah, but then you have to talk to a quebecois. |
| 15:42.40 | Thrae | What type of ammo do crossbows use? |
| 15:42.50 | cryogen | arrows |
| 15:42.56 | Thrae | Ah, OK |
| 15:43.20 | benmaca | i said canadian bcs idk how to say quebecois in english :p |
| 15:43.37 | Antiarc|Work | Didn't crossbows use bolts at one point? Like in beta? |
| 15:43.45 | Antiarc|Work | Quebecois is correct in English :) |
| 15:43.58 | mitch0 | laterz |
| 15:44.19 | mitch0zZ | (I killed mikk's bot :) |
| 15:45.06 | benmaca | Antiarc => http://benmaca.dommel.be/WoWScrnShot_070407_235545.jpg |
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| 15:45.23 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42857 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: some more optimizations |
| 15:45.47 | trh | Antiarc: it should work if you change the realmlist.wtf |
| 15:45.55 | evl | nevcairiel: whaht's hot candy |
| 15:45.59 | Antiarc|Work | trh: That won't get me a different locale though, will it? |
| 15:46.11 | trh | Antiarc: if you install the german client yes |
| 15:46.12 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: Aha, okay. So you're missing info for a few specific people then. |
| 15:46.20 | trh | Antiarc: but you gottag change the locale to login onto the us realms |
| 15:46.30 | nevcairiel | evl: HoT timer |
| 15:46.31 | Antiarc|Work | us realms only take enUS locales? |
| 15:46.35 | trh | Antiarc: http://www.gamershell.com/client_download_archive.html search german client |
| 15:46.54 | trh | Antiarc|Work: err. not the locale, the realmlist.wtf |
| 15:47.01 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, right, right. |
| 15:47.03 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 15:47.03 | trh | Antiarc: as the realmlist.wtf is set to european realm |
| 15:47.10 | benmaca | Antiarc: afaik only warlocks |
| 15:47.15 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: Do you know what locales the other people on the list are running? |
| 15:47.30 | benmaca | frFR |
| 15:47.38 | Antiarc|Work | It looks like Naomix is under-reported, too |
| 15:48.01 | benmaca | its how i see myself and my mate lock too sometimes |
| 15:48.14 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. Thanks for the screen - I'll see if I can find anything. |
| 15:48.44 | benmaca | i try with an english client as soon as i finish the DL and let u know if i have the same problem |
| 15:48.51 | Antiarc|Work | Wonderful. Thank you so much. |
| 15:49.03 | nevcairiel | I forced my guild onto Omen today. |
| 15:49.07 | kebinusan | lbleh trying to compile wow model viewer on linux is way too much of a pain in the ass |
| 15:49.13 | nevcairiel | i hope its not broken :P |
| 15:50.19 | Antiarc|Work | The current build is extremely stable for enUS clients, mostly stable for non-enUS clients, though it would appear some problems still linger. |
| 15:50.40 | nevcairiel | well our raid is mixed enGB deDE clients |
| 15:51.19 | nevcairiel | will see how it works out today |
| 15:52.01 | [dRaCo] | just kick the guys using deDE, the localization is horrible anyway |
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| 15:53.50 | benmaca | thanks to you for your work |
| 15:53.59 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, thank you for the testing! :) |
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| 15:55.05 | trh | Antiarc: damn.. the guy with the 100mbit ftp server (which should contain the german client) isn't online.. but i'll ask him if he comes online.. so you can download it very fast :) |
| 15:55.09 | benmaca | its a good addon, worth some time to help the dev debugging it :p |
| 15:55.21 | Antiarc|Work | trh: I'm at work anyway, so I can't download it right now :) |
| 15:55.32 | trh | Antiarc: hehe ok.. i'll ask him when he comes online |
| 15:55.34 | Antiarc|Work | trh: I'll probably just fire up a torrent of it before I leave for work tomorrow |
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| 15:56.19 | sbu | Antiarc: mhh - DL trialversion? |
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| 15:56.23 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42858 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
| 15:56.23 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 15:56.24 | CIA-22 | - small fix to show Threat 1.0 Version in Tooltip again |
| 15:56.42 | benmaca | i can check for the french torrent if u want |
| 15:56.48 | Bam__ | can a multiToggle text option be set from the console? |
| 15:57.06 | Antiarc|Work | Eh, no biggie. I generally don't have problems finding torrents ;) |
| 15:57.32 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42859 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: |
| 15:57.32 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 15:57.32 | CIA-22 | - Added OriginalHealthBarColor tag |
| 15:58.46 | Bam__ | I cant figure out the syntax for setting a multiToggle :( |
| 15:59.27 | binder | I should run my wow in german to brush up on my german since no one in this country speaks it :P |
| 15:59.28 | Hjalte | SimpleSelfRebuff can't work in combat? |
| 15:59.59 | trh | binder: the german localisation isn't good.. so i guess it's a bad way to learn german ;) |
| 16:00.15 | binder | lol |
| 16:00.47 | binder | when I lived at home growing up my parents spoke both and english and german but I've been out of their house for 10 years so it's really bad now |
| 16:01.15 | [Ammo] | I live 10km from the german border |
| 16:01.29 | [Ammo] | I speak it well enough to make sure I get the food I ordered :) |
| 16:01.33 | benmaca | btw whats the name of the addon providing a black background on all windows? |
| 16:01.39 | [Ammo] | (although I also do the german tech support for our company) |
| 16:01.39 | trh | ammo: 1 schnitzel bitte :P |
| 16:02.04 | wogi | [Ammo]: Guten Tag |
| 16:02.12 | binder | I live in america and I'm first generation here, so like no one I know other than my family speaks it |
| 16:02.37 | trh | but if you learnt it at home theres a very good chance you'll never forget it completly |
| 16:02.49 | binder | whenever I meet someone from germany that's visiting here |
| 16:02.51 | [Ammo] | dutch, so I got at least 4 years of german in school |
| 16:02.57 | binder | they freak out if I speak some german to them |
| 16:03.04 | binder | "omg americans don't know german" |
| 16:03.24 | [Ammo] | and spend a lot of vacations in germany |
| 16:04.10 | binder | on vent our guild has a lot of discussions why it seems EU gamers are more hardcore than americans |
| 16:04.15 | ven | isn't woa like 1 month away? |
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| 16:04.30 | [Ammo] | I'll be at WOA |
| 16:04.36 | [Ammo] | on the second group camping :) |
| 16:04.36 | ven | I can't :( |
| 16:04.45 | trh | binder: na.. i don't think so.. percentage wise there may be more hardcore gamers |
| 16:04.53 | [Ammo] | anyway, time to go home |
| 16:04.56 | [Ammo] | later :) |
| 16:05.00 | trh | binder: but only because online gaming isn't that popular among europeans |
| 16:05.06 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298904617&postId=2986697673&sid=1#2 |
| 16:05.08 | Fisker- | the bait is set |
| 16:05.11 | Fisker- | Will they bite? |
| 16:05.33 | trh | no |
| 16:05.48 | Fisker- | i hope so |
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| 16:06.39 | durcyn | i think you're too easily entertained, fisker |
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| 16:06.50 | binder | trh |
| 16:07.00 | binder | why would that make EU more hardcore? |
| 16:07.18 | trh | binder: it wouldn't - it would only seem that eu has more hardcore gamers |
| 16:07.36 | trh | binder: b/c the hardcore gamers are a higher percentage within the community |
| 16:07.42 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42860 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: Aloft: AloftTag - Added HealthBarColor as well |
| 16:07.44 | Fisker- | it's worth a try |
| 16:08.30 | Fisker- | if they bite that means unlimited harassment through email |
| 16:08.34 | Kaelten | ello |
| 16:08.51 | gnorlish | i |
| 16:10.23 | Gandharva | Antiarc: If MT (Threat 1.0 + KTM) Taunts a mob from OT (KTM only) is the Threat shown in Omen correct, or are there known problems? |
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| 16:15.57 | Hjalte | If I am using Omen and sending threat to KTM through that, there's no need for me to use ThreatToKTM, right? |
| 16:16.33 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: It'll give the MT KTM's threat reading, so it could be very wrong in a multi-mob scenario without a master target in KTM |
| 16:16.48 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: Unless you want to set KTM master targets, no, you don't need ThreatToKTM |
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| 16:18.24 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: I'm talking about Vashj Phase 1. So no multi-mob scenario. |
| 16:18.42 | Antiarc|Work | Does Vashj do Static Charge in phase 1? |
| 16:19.10 | Antiarc|Work | If so, KTM will be super-inflated there due to player-player damage if no master target is set. |
| 16:19.35 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Roots players randomly. But no charge. |
| 16:19.51 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. Should be okay then. Are you observing problems? |
| 16:20.15 | binder | yes |
| 16:20.30 | binder | vashj wrecks threat meters |
| 16:20.35 | Gandharva | Yes, our tanks Aggro is shown way too low in Omen. KTM was OK for phase 1. |
| 16:20.43 | binder | last week it was messing up with omen and ktm equally |
| 16:20.47 | binder | because of static charge |
| 16:21.31 | Gandharva | I had both installed, KTM and Omen. KTM values seem correct. |
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| 16:21.57 | Hjalte | According to this website, A Guide To Threat, devastate does 101 threat.. But does anyone know if that is with 0 or 5 sunders on the mob? |
| 16:22.00 | Gandharva | KTM freaks out in phase 2 because of all the mobs. |
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| 16:22.14 | Gandharva | Hjalte: 0 |
| 16:22.21 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: What class is your tank? |
| 16:22.30 | Gandharva | Warri, both |
| 16:22.36 | Hjalte | Gandharva, do you know how much threat devastate does with 5 sunders then? :) |
| 16:22.39 | Antiarc|Work | And there's taunting going on? |
| 16:22.47 | Gandharva | Hjalte: no, sry |
| 16:22.57 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: yes, alot |
| 16:23.06 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. The tanks were running Omen as well? |
| 16:23.07 | Gandharva | between the 2 tanks |
| 16:23.40 | Gandharva | no, MT has installed Threat 1.0 (only the library) and KTM. OT only KTM. |
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| 16:24.42 | BobKael | hrm |
| 16:24.46 | BobKael | not sure |
| 16:24.52 | BobKael | its ugly MikkCGI :P |
| 16:24.57 | MikkCGI | haha |
| 16:25.11 | MikkCGI | there's more skins to choose from if that's your only concern :P |
| 16:25.32 | BobKael | if we're going to offer it I'll want to be able to continue to offer it through a patch day |
| 16:25.38 | BobKael | and I'm not sure if we'll be able too. |
| 16:25.43 | Gandharva | Hjalte: I think its 101 + the higher dmg values. |
| 16:25.46 | Trancer | omgosh, a webchat! |
| 16:26.05 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: I'll doublecheck the taunt interaction there |
| 16:26.17 | BobKael | Trancer ya |
| 16:26.18 | BobKael | :P |
| 16:26.19 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Thanks |
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| 16:26.43 | Trancer | BobKael: make sure you make a 'deal' with freenode or so to get a bigger Y line (so you don't have too many clients error) |
| 16:26.57 | BobKael | if we decide to proceed on it |
| 16:27.05 | BobKael | looks like its taking about 5MB per session |
| 16:27.13 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: Devastate is 101 threat per Sunder application |
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| 16:27.19 | Trancer | for cgi:irc? hmmk :p |
| 16:27.26 | Antiarc|Work | So 505 additional threat for Devastating on a full sunder stack |
| 16:27.34 | Trancer | I run the xs4all.nl one, it has about 400 users on that box, not really problematic |
| 16:27.39 | Trancer | load isn't surprisingly high or so |
| 16:27.54 | Trancer | 400 users is really max btw, it typically has around 100 |
| 16:28.19 | Trancer | BobKael: just be aware of abuse |
| 16:28.34 | Mikk | this one is tied down so it can only access this channel |
| 16:28.48 | Mikk | with a minimum of allowed irc commands |
| 16:28.54 | Trancer | a that's wise |
| 16:29.04 | Trancer | the bopm of the irc networks typically don't scan the webchats.. |
| 16:29.12 | Trancer | kiddies are using TOR to connect to them and then go flood |
| 16:29.13 | Hjalte | Antiarc|Work, that sounds like a lot of threat compared to eg shield bash generating only 230 aggro |
| 16:29.24 | Hjalte | eh, threat* |
| 16:29.31 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc 07Threat-1.0 * r42861 10Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to Devastate - let's look for Sunder on the target's debuffs, rather than the player's buffs. Doh. |
| 16:29.37 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: It is. |
| 16:29.41 | Antiarc|Work | That's kinda the point of it ;) |
| 16:30.06 | Fisker- | pwnt |
| 16:30.38 | Mikk | Trancer: the xs4all one is only for xs4all users i assume? |
| 16:30.52 | Trancer | Mikk: no, anyone, but it is only active on efnet/ircnet unfortunately |
| 16:31.01 | Mikk | ok |
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| 16:31.04 | Trancer | Mikk: as freenode has a nazi policy regarding ircd hosting we decided not to link to freenode |
| 16:31.10 | Mikk | ow |
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| 16:32.02 | Saint-N | ircfromschool.com ;P |
| 16:32.22 | grzesieq | pvp server my ass |
| 16:32.23 | Hjalte | <Antiarc|Work> , the fix you just applied, will it make Devastate give more threat in Omen? |
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| 16:32.28 | grzesieq | gm told us to get out of orgri :( |
| 16:32.31 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: Yes |
| 16:32.42 | Fisker- | nazis? where? |
| 16:32.43 | ckknight | hey all |
| 16:32.47 | Antiarc|Work | Morning, ckknight |
| 16:32.51 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: wow, this change should push warrior aggro alot in Omen :) |
| 16:33.00 | Antiarc|Work | Prot warrior anyway, yeah. |
| 16:33.23 | Kaelten | ack, its an evil monkey! |
| 16:33.34 | Gandharva | Gandharva: More room for DPS :) |
| 16:33.56 | Antiarc|Work | Aha, I see the problem. There is a definite possibility of wrong threat when taunting off of a KTM user. |
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| 16:34.16 | benmaca | Antiarc, can u tell me if threat 1.0 detects aggro reduction from talents? |
| 16:34.36 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: It does |
| 16:34.43 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Nice, would be fine to see this fixed. |
| 16:34.51 | Saint-N | does omen do laundry yet? |
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| 16:35.07 | Antiarc|Work | Saint-N: I'm still working out the details in the Fetch Me A Beer module |
| 16:35.19 | Saint-N | ahh so not til 12.0 eh ;) |
| 16:35.22 | Gandharva | lol |
| 16:36.07 | Fisker- | [1] Cola Run |
| 16:37.44 | Hjalte | Antiarc|Work: "According to folks who spend a lot of time figuring out threat values, Devastate always generates threat equal to (total damage + 101). So while the added damage per Sunder does naturally translate into added threat, the "innate" threat bonus is always 101, whether you have five Sunders or no Sunders at all. No this doesn't match what the tooltip says, but it isn't the first time Blizzard messes up the wording on a toolt |
| 16:37.52 | Thrae | Can someone give me the name of a quest item that's not equippable? |
| 16:38.03 | Thrae | Like Papers: blah |
| 16:38.09 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: Hm. Good to know. |
| 16:38.20 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: Obviously I need to go spec my warrior to Prot and test it :) |
| 16:38.33 | Antiarc|Work | +101 threat seems counterintuitive though |
| 16:38.42 | Hjalte | Antiarc|Work: I'm very interesting in finding out if it works that way too :) |
| 16:38.47 | Antiarc|Work | Sunder is triple of that. |
| 16:38.47 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: I think KTM does not reset aggro on Vashj on phase switches. So in phase 3 the values will be incorrect? And I guess there's nothing you can do here. |
| 16:39.26 | Gandharva | crappy KTM ^^ |
| 16:39.50 | Coruss | silly question: how do they find out the actual threat values? |
| 16:40.37 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: Empirical testing! |
| 16:40.50 | Coruss | so comparing against other damage sources? |
| 16:40.54 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, except for certain classes, 1 damage = 1 threat without any other modifiers. |
| 16:41.12 | Antiarc|Work | So, if you want to test a move, then you do the move on a mob, then have someone else melee until they pull aggro |
| 16:41.17 | Gandharva | Hjalte: Devastate is the 41pt talent in the protection tree. It deals damage according to the number of sunders on the target and weapon damage range. The matching rank 2 damage formula is: 0,5 * ( Weapon Damage + Attack Power / 14 * Normalized Weapon Speed ) + 25 * #(Sunder Armor) While best used at 5 applications of Sunder, it generally provides a modified threat level equivalent to Sunder Armor around 2 applications of Sunder |
| 16:41.25 | Coruss | that I did know, and healing is 0.5 threat/pt of healing |
| 16:41.30 | Antiarc|Work | You pull aggro at 110% of the aggro-holders, threat, so you take the damage done, divide by 1.1, and that's the threat for the move. |
| 16:41.36 | Thrae | Item types I have so far are: Consumable, Head, Shoulders, Shirt, Chest, Belt, Legs, Feet, Wrist, Hands, Ring, Trinket, One-Hand, Shield, Ranged, Back, Two-Handed, Container, Tabard, (unknown), Main-Hand, Off-Hand, Off-Hand (misc.), Ammo, (unknown), Wand, (unknown), Idol/Relic/Totem |
| 16:42.06 | Fisker- | junk !!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:42.35 | Coruss | thanks Antiarc, that's what I thought |
| 16:42.36 | Thrae | Can't think of anymore item types... |
| 16:42.43 | Hjalte | Gandharva, i got my info from http://evilempireguild.org/guides/devastate.php - where is that from? |
| 16:42.46 | Coruss | thrown |
| 16:43.00 | Gandharva | Hjalte: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=94319875&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 16:43.11 | Coruss | also missing bows and guns? |
| 16:43.16 | Coruss | or rather ranged |
| 16:43.24 | Antiarc|Work | I think the long and short of it is that I'm going to be speccing my warrior to prot tonight. |
| 16:44.03 | Coruss | Thrae: nvm, I see the ranged now, but you are missing thrown |
| 16:44.11 | Thrae | Coruss: Oh, Ranged is in there yes. What's the name of the thrown weapons for Rogues? |
| 16:44.27 | Thrae | Knives? |
| 16:44.33 | Coruss | there's a few |
| 16:44.39 | Coruss | axes, knives |
| 16:45.20 | Coruss | maybe just two hehe |
| 16:45.26 | Hjalte | Gandharva, i guess what you wrote kind of supports what i wrote for Antiarc. On the site, it says 101 innate threat. And it seems that is with 5 sunders up. |
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| 16:46.07 | Thrae | Coruss: Got it. Anything other then Thrown? Still have 2 more unknowns. |
| 16:46.40 | Coruss | neck |
| 16:46.50 | Thrae | Coruss: Got Neck, if I didn't list it |
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| 16:47.20 | Coruss | you didn't |
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| 16:48.56 | Coruss | you've got everything I can think of that's equip-able unless scrolls don't count as consumables |
| 16:49.13 | Coruss | maybe auras? |
| 16:49.59 | Gandharva | Hjalte: [18:25] Gandharva: Hjalte: I think its 101 + the higher dmg values. |
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| 16:50.16 | Gandharva | Gandharva: I thing Threat 1.0 is wrong here ^^ |
| 16:50.25 | Gandharva | Meh... |
| 16:50.57 | Proph | any website i can update Tattle's .lua file - last update is 6/7/07 for my battlegroup11....ad |
| 16:50.58 | Hjalte | Gandharva, yeah, i see. For a moment i thought devastate was better than it is, but it seems to just do what you said. 101 threat and then the damage. |
| 16:51.16 | Antiarc|Work | It has to be just a flat 101 + damage |
| 16:51.27 | Gandharva | Hjalte: It should be 101 + damage. Sunder only modifies damge. |
| 16:51.35 | Antiarc|Work | Otherwise, for a well-geared tank in defensive with defiance, you're looking at 1400ish threat per devastate |
| 16:51.40 | Antiarc|Work | And that's with no cooldown. |
| 16:51.53 | Hjalte | Gandharva, the problem is that blizzard are jerks. The tooltip says threat. |
| 16:51.59 | Antiarc|Work | The tooltip is really misleading |
| 16:52.12 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe that's just to get noob warriors to sunder 5x for devastate |
| 16:52.21 | Antiarc|Work | Since sundering does increase the damage devastate does. |
| 16:52.47 | Thrae | Coruss: How the hell are Auras an item? |
| 16:53.06 | Gandharva | Gandharva: Devastate is not really worth for tanking imo. It's a dps utility for gimped Deftanks. |
| 16:53.11 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42863 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:53.11 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 16:53.11 | CIA-22 | - Sorta-revert Devastate to a flat additional 101 threat regardless of the sunder stack on the target pending testing. 1400ish threat per Devastate doesn't quite seem right. |
| 16:53.11 | CIA-22 | - Couple of preventive measures to keep bad misdirection messsages from throwing errors. |
| 16:53.11 | CIA-22 | - Small preventive fix to mob name translation checks |
| 16:53.29 | Gandharva | Alsways talking to myself... I'm an idiot... |
| 16:53.46 | Thrae | #item whirling steel axes |
| 16:53.59 | Thrae | #item heartseeker knives |
| 16:54.06 | trh | next monday is darkmoon faire, or? |
| 16:54.22 | Trancer | yes |
| 16:54.28 | Thrae | Whoops |
| 16:54.37 | trh | cool.. then i can finally turn in my lunacy and blessings set :) |
| 16:54.54 | dodgizzla | Yarrr, Darkmoon Card Crusade be mine! |
| 16:55.13 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r42864 10ShammySpy/ (Data.lua Localization.lua ShammySpy.lua): |
| 16:55.13 | CIA-22 | ShammySpy: |
| 16:55.13 | CIA-22 | - Updated to work with level 50 Trinket and some other stuff that I forgot |
| 16:55.22 | Neebler | antiarc: http://evilempireguild.org/guides/kenco2.php |
| 16:55.24 | Trancer | shammyspy o_O |
| 16:55.54 | Neebler | err wrong link |
| 16:55.59 | Neebler | http://evilempireguild.org/guides/devastate.php |
| 16:56.17 | Coruss | Thrae: I dunno, grasping at straws at this point, you've got everything I can think of |
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| 16:57.54 | Thrae | Coruss: Yeah, the extra item types probably aren't useful |
| 16:58.18 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r42865 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua: LittleWigs: Tweak zhTW for Freywinn.lua |
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| 17:01.16 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1183654685137.jpg |
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| 17:04.15 | dodgizzla | meh, Kencos Guide is a bit off for Priests. Shadow Affinity and Silent Resolve don't stack anymore. Or did they revert that change? |
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| 17:04.57 | Fisker- | no u Kirkburn|sleep :( |
| 17:04.57 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 17:05.05 | durcyn | dodgizzla: no, obviously you are stupid |
| 17:05.10 | durcyn | </kenco_mode> |
| 17:05.17 | dodgizzla | nowai! |
| 17:05.21 | Antiarc|Work | dodgizzla: which abilities? |
| 17:05.36 | Antiarc|Work | (I tested VT extensively, and it seems like it is still affected by SR, but not SA) |
| 17:05.50 | Kirkburn|sleep | For a solo hunter, does he need only 100% threat to take aggro from the pet? |
| 17:06.13 | Antiarc|Work | 130% |
| 17:06.23 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: Priests have two talents that reduce threat; Silent Resolve in the Discipline tree (which does not affect shadow spells as of some patch after BC) and Shadow Affinity (which reduces threat from shadow spells) |
| 17:06.37 | Kirkburn|sleep | Cause I never get near that and yet still take aggro, feels more like 105% |
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| 17:06.37 | Antiarc|Work | dodgizzla: Right, but which spells would be affected by both? |
| 17:06.47 | dodgizzla | And in that guide which Neebler posted it says that those stack; so I just said that the guide was wrong there :D |
| 17:06.48 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn|sleep: Might be a scaling issue. |
| 17:06.58 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn|sleep: What level/pet/pet level/growl rank? |
| 17:07.00 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: I don't know.. none? :D |
| 17:07.06 | trh | Antiarc: and 110% in meelee =) |
| 17:07.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | 68 hunter, 67 pet ... been that way most of the time though |
| 17:07.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | Sure, as a BM hunter I melee all the time ;) |
| 17:07.44 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oh and cat, growl ... 8? |
| 17:07.44 | trh | Kirkburn|sleep: i knew it :P melee hunter ftw :P |
| 17:07.47 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, intimidation might not be registering correctly. |
| 17:08.07 | Antiarc|Work | Also, I don't know how (or if) cobra reflexes affects threat output. |
| 17:08.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | Hah, I don't intimidate that much either ;) |
| 17:08.15 | trh | Kirkburn|sleep: i'd guess rank 7, as rank 8 is 70 ;) |
| 17:08.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ah, cobra reflexes! |
| 17:08.25 | dodgizzla | On another note.. is Threat picking up KTM data correctly now? I'm most of the time at -0 threat :\ |
| 17:08.46 | Antiarc|Work | It should be. I haven't noted any problems with the KTM users in my group. |
| 17:08.57 | Fisker- | OH U Kirkburn|sleep |
| 17:09.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | Cobra Reflexes data - http://petopia.wordpress.com/2007/05/24/cobra-reflexes-data-points/ |
| 17:09.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | How, or if, that affects threat in some other way I dunno |
| 17:09.28 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: What happens if nobody uses Threat or KTM except me in my raid? Does threat do any kind of combat log parsing? |
| 17:09.34 | Antiarc|Work | Nope |
| 17:09.43 | Antiarc|Work | You'll only get threat data from yourself |
| 17:09.49 | dodgizzla | I see |
| 17:09.56 | Antiarc|Work | It's just way too dicey to try to do threat guesses for others |
| 17:10.06 | dodgizzla | Yeah no biggy there |
| 17:10.20 | dodgizzla | I just tell everybody to install Threat and don't care from that on :> |
| 17:10.21 | trh | Antiarc: we'd need ace3 for that which just sents everything from everyone ;) |
| 17:10.25 | kebinusan | between talents and buffs its really a crap shoot better no data then inaccurate data |
| 17:11.19 | Antiarc|Work | Well, that and the fact that there's no combat log message for things like Sunder past 5 applications. |
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| 17:12.43 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: http://www.thottbot.com/s25072 Is this enchant in Threat 1.0? I could't find it. |
| 17:12.52 | Antiarc|Work | Yup, sure is |
| 17:12.59 | Antiarc|Work | It's in the equipment scan in the class core |
| 17:13.17 | Gandharva | Ah ok :) |
| 17:13.22 | Antiarc|Work | Line 421 |
| 17:14.12 | benmaca | Antiarc i tested with an english client in solo mode, no bug at all, showing right aggro |
| 17:14.33 | benmaca | so it must be a bug in frFR version |
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| 17:14.56 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: Possibly an incorrect translation or something? |
| 17:15.10 | benmaca | any way to change locale to test enGB on french client? |
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| 17:15.29 | benmaca | if u need anything to translate, just ask |
| 17:15.47 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: Do me a favor - in the frFR client, get into a fight and /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpThreatTable() |
| 17:15.47 | trh | benmaca: only by downloading the language pack or the english client |
| 17:15.55 | Antiarc|Work | Then screenshot the results for me |
| 17:16.05 | Antiarc|Work | That should tell me if it's a Threat-1.0 problem or just a display problem |
| 17:16.26 | Gandharva | benmaca: http://www.wow-europe.com/fr/downloads/elp/ |
| 17:16.45 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r42866 10AtlasLoot/ (PvP/WorldPvP.en.lua Sets/sets.lua): |
| 17:16.45 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:16.45 | CIA-22 | - Added the new JC design to the Halaa page. |
| 17:16.45 | CIA-22 | - Reordered the Set page and fixed a typo. |
| 17:16.58 | benmaca | T |
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| 17:17.39 | benmaca | trh & Gandharva, not the english game client, just omen in english on french client |
| 17:17.39 | mitch0 | yo |
| 17:17.53 | benmaca | Antiarc it just return () in my chat. do i need a special lib? |
| 17:18.46 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: No, you shouldn't. That just means that no threat is being recorded |
| 17:18.48 | Antiarc|Work | (which is a problem) |
| 17:19.06 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: You did that while in a fight? |
| 17:19.10 | benmaca | {} not () |
| 17:19.25 | mitch0 | antiarc: back on the pullout bar screwing the main display's values: I pulled out the aggrogain bar, not the MTs bar, if that matters |
| 17:19.33 | benmaca | yep while casting my second SB on a mob |
| 17:19.40 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. Definitely a problem then. |
| 17:20.24 | Antiarc|Work | What do you get from /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):GetPlayerModule().unitType ? |
| 17:20.36 | benmaca | in fight? |
| 17:20.43 | Antiarc|Work | Anytime |
| 17:20.53 | benmaca | "player" |
| 17:21.13 | Antiarc|Work | Okay, that's right. |
| 17:21.34 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42867 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Wtf, potential bugfix. |
| 17:21.36 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42868 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: removed unnecessary tostring() calls |
| 17:21.42 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.10 | benmaca | true |
| 17:22.12 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 17:22.38 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.52 | benmaca | "WARLOCK" |
| 17:22.59 | Antiarc|Work | That's correct. |
| 17:23.09 | benmaca | in english on french client? |
| 17:23.30 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, that's the non-localized value returned from UnitClass |
| 17:23.51 | Antiarc|Work | Do you have Lua errors on, or some kind of error grabber (like BugSack)? |
| 17:24.19 | benmaca | no grabber and 0 .lua errors |
| 17:24.42 | Antiarc|Work | Do you have "Show Lua Errors" on in the Interface options? |
| 17:24.50 | benmaca | i have bugsack&co but disabled |
| 17:25.04 | Antiarc|Work | Oh. If you can, enable them and see if you get any errors. |
| 17:25.11 | benmaca | probabely, i got one yesterday while trying an addon |
| 17:25.14 | Antiarc|Work | I'm wondering if there's a missing translation that's causing it all to have problems. |
| 17:25.46 | benmaca | dont know what u mean by "missing translation" but some text is still in english |
| 17:26.16 | Antiarc|Work | Well, Threat uses Babble-Spell for spell name translations |
| 17:26.22 | benmaca | like the 1st option in the menu "activate with pet" |
| 17:26.32 | Antiarc|Work | If there's a spell that isn't translated right or whatever, then it might cause problems. |
| 17:26.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | Maybe someone forgot to translate "warlock" ;) |
| 17:27.05 | benmaca | do i need babble? |
| 17:27.13 | Antiarc|Work | It's embedded in Threat and Omen |
| 17:27.19 | benmaca | ok |
| 17:27.27 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn|sleep: I believe that I use the non-localized versions everywhere |
| 17:27.28 | benmaca | i try with bugsack and bug grabber |
| 17:27.36 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, great. Please let me know if you find anything. |
| 17:27.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | I was being facetious ... I think :D |
| 17:28.34 | benmaca | oh, the addon i tested yesterday was threattoktm, it was full of lua errors |
| 17:28.35 | Kirkburn|sleep | If it turns out someone really did forget to translate Warlock, well then I wasn't being facetious and actually was presciently pointing out the problem ... |
| 17:28.40 | benmaca | then i updated it and no more errors |
| 17:29.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | how does threattoktm work atm? I recall some of it being integrated into Omen? |
| 17:29.40 | Antiarc|Work | TTK is just a light interface to KTM-specific commands now |
| 17:29.46 | Antiarc|Work | Set master target, clear request, etc |
| 17:29.52 | Kirkburn|sleep | aha |
| 17:29.58 | Antiarc|Work | The actual Threat<->KTM is done in Threat natively now |
| 17:30.36 | benmaca | no errors in bugsack |
| 17:30.44 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 17:30.46 | benmaca | (so i can delete ttk which is useless now?) |
| 17:30.51 | Antiarc|Work | Yup :) |
| 17:30.59 | Antiarc|Work | Let me see if I can think of a few more tests for you. |
| 17:31.03 | Antiarc|Work | Oh - |
| 17:31.14 | Antiarc|Work | Are you solo right now? If so, do you have "Active When Solo" checked in Omen? |
| 17:31.19 | *** join/#wowace Parak (n=profi@user-387hhso.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 17:31.20 | benmaca | yes |
| 17:31.31 | benmaca | and it works fine on enbg client |
| 17:31.34 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. No problem there then. |
| 17:31.38 | benmaca | just bugged on frfr |
| 17:31.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | Active with Pet covers locks too, no? |
| 17:32.04 | benmaca | its active too |
| 17:32.42 | Antiarc|Work | Try this with something targeted: /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):GetPlayerModule():_addTargetThreat(5000, UnitName("target")) |
| 17:32.48 | Antiarc|Work | And see if that gives you 5k threat in Omen. |
| 17:33.05 | benmaca | works |
| 17:33.08 | benmaca | i got 5k |
| 17:33.30 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. Maybe a parser error then. Hrm. |
| 17:33.36 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42869 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix when you just log in to the game, get a leader reset, and Roster-2.1 has not had time to index your group yet. |
| 17:33.53 | Antiarc|Work | If you get into combat, take damage, then use a healthstone to heal yourself, do you get any threat? |
| 17:34.00 | benmaca | i try |
| 17:34.30 | charon | Antiarc|Work: /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable() <- is that correct? |
| 17:34.30 | benmaca | 1.2k aggro |
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| 17:34.38 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42870 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 17:34.38 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 17:34.38 | CIA-22 | - Fixes to Select tag |
| 17:34.55 | Antiarc|Work | charon: That'll dump implicit translations, yeah |
| 17:35.10 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: So it looks like only damage threat isn't being counted, correct? |
| 17:35.22 | benmaca | yepp |
| 17:35.46 | Antiarc|Work | Are you familiar with Lua at all? |
| 17:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | I can send you a modified method that you can paste into the class file, reload your UI, and then use to debug it |
| 17:36.14 | benmaca | i cant script in lua, but i can understand some |
| 17:36.39 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. Give me a moment and I'll get you a block to paste in, if that's okay with you |
| 17:37.12 | benmaca | pet dmg isnt counted too |
| 17:38.01 | benmaca | its not the spell translation, wand aggro doesnt show in omen |
| 17:38.03 | charon | Antiarc|Work: it's empty, should it be? i'm Anmoch, is that the command you gave me the other day? |
| 17:38.40 | Antiarc|Work | charon: It's fine for it to be empty if you aren't in a multi-locale group |
| 17:39.17 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 17:39.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 17:39.20 | benmaca | melee damage appears in omen |
| 17:40.11 | Jagobah | Wowaceupdater crashed on me |
| 17:40.12 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net/70363 |
| 17:40.16 | Jagobah | but it still updated my addons in the background! |
| 17:40.29 | trh | Adirelle: ping? |
| 17:40.30 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: oh, melee shows but spell damage of all sorts doesn't? |
| 17:40.54 | benmaca | melee shows, wand doesnt, spell doesnt, pet (imp casts) doesnt |
| 17:41.14 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. I'm suspecting a parser problem. |
| 17:41.14 | trh | benmaca: do the other people maybe have swstats installed? |
| 17:41.23 | *** join/#wowace Seerah_ (n=chatzill@adsl-63-179-3.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:41.32 | benmaca | almost all, including myself |
| 17:41.40 | Antiarc|Work | Oooh. That might do it. |
| 17:41.44 | trh | benmaca: ask them to delete swstats_fixlogstrings |
| 17:41.51 | Antiarc|Work | SWStats_FixLogStrings or whatever messes with the parser log strings |
| 17:41.54 | alext | on a side note |
| 17:41.56 | Antiarc|Work | Try disabling that and try it in frFR |
| 17:42.01 | alext | is it ok to disable fixlogstrings? |
| 17:42.05 | alext | what exactly does it do? |
| 17:42.05 | trh | yep |
| 17:42.08 | mitch0 | [ammo]: are you around? |
| 17:42.26 | trh | alext: it changes the combat log messages omen/threat rely on to track damage |
| 17:42.43 | alext | well if i disable it, does it break swstats? |
| 17:42.47 | trh | no |
| 17:42.54 | alext | seems to be no need for it then period |
| 17:42.56 | trh | it may make damage tracking a bit unaccurate |
| 17:43.04 | alext | ahh |
| 17:43.08 | Seerah_ | anyone have any ideas on why I might not be able to commit to the svn? I get stuck in an endless loop of it asking for me to login (though browsing and checking out works fine) |
| 17:43.18 | charon | Antiarc|Work: weird, i'm not, i use enGB and there are at least two deDE omens in my raid. it's empty, but omen seems to work normally |
| 17:43.29 | trh | Seerah_: any error message? |
| 17:43.33 | Antiarc|Work | ...that's bizarre. |
| 17:43.39 | Antiarc|Work | charon: You're getting threat data from the deDE folks? |
| 17:43.43 | trh | Seerah_: i'm guessing some pre-commit script telling you what you did wrong |
| 17:43.45 | Seerah_ | trh: nope. I enter login info and it asks again |
| 17:43.50 | Gamefaq | Antiarc.... |
| 17:43.51 | trh | Seerah_: weird |
| 17:43.54 | Gamefaq | [2007/07/05 19:21:11-693-x2]: ...ns\Omen\Libs\Threat-1.0\ThreatMobNameTranslation.lua:149: Conflicting translation for Al'ars Asche in enUS: old is "Elf", new is "Ember of Al'ar". Please report to Antiarc.: |
| 17:43.59 | benmaca | ok, thats the problem |
| 17:44.07 | Antiarc|Work | Gamefaq: Anyone in your raid out of date? |
| 17:44.07 | benmaca | now i see my spell aggro in omen |
| 17:44.07 | Seerah_ | trh: I even just updated my TortoiseSVN client |
| 17:44.15 | Gamefaq | wait |
| 17:44.26 | trh | Seerah_: sure you typed username/password correctly? |
| 17:44.39 | Seerah_ | yep |
| 17:44.43 | Gamefaq | One Not Compatible |
| 17:44.53 | alext | going to just get rid of sw_stats...not sure if there is a ace meter that has as many options...but what do we have, violation is one of them any others? |
| 17:45.02 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42871 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: |
| 17:45.02 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 17:45.02 | CIA-22 | - Make the temporary compression command a toggle with a checkmark |
| 17:45.02 | CIA-22 | - Make edit bags/categories tablets not open on top of eachother by default |
| 17:45.03 | trh | alext: violation is pretty nice |
| 17:45.05 | Seerah_ | assessment |
| 17:45.11 | trh | alext: and supports gathering of swstats data |
| 17:45.24 | alext | nice going to check those 2 out |
| 17:45.28 | alext | thanks for the tips |
| 17:45.30 | trh | others include: assessment, recap, recount =) |
| 17:45.32 | benmaca | violation or recount |
| 17:45.42 | Mikk | violation = basic. no details of skills used etc |
| 17:45.44 | Gamefaq | Antiarc|Work: One is not compatible |
| 17:45.46 | Mikk | recount = bigger |
| 17:45.54 | Seerah_ | alext: just depends on how detailed you want the info |
| 17:46.01 | trh | yeah.. violation is pretty small.. it's memory footprint is near to nothing :) |
| 17:46.05 | trh | that's what i like about it :) |
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| 17:46.21 | alext | I only use it for damage and healing 90% of the time. Sometimes I like to break down what spells did what for damage, but in most causes I just use WWS data for that |
| 17:46.24 | Antiarc|Work | Gamefaq: Have them update if you can; they're sending bogus translations over. |
| 17:46.28 | alext | cases |
| 17:46.38 | Gamefaq | ahh ok |
| 17:46.39 | trh | Adirelle: http://ace.pastey.net/70359 <- if you're there =) |
| 17:46.43 | Gamefaq | thx |
| 17:46.45 | benmaca | so Antiarc|Work every ppl who got problems like mine just have to delete fixlogstrings? |
| 17:47.13 | Antiarc|Work | benmaca: Yes, likely. It messes up the internal Blizzard log patterns. |
| 17:47.16 | ravagernl | only thing violation misses is effective healing wich is healing - overhealing |
| 17:47.27 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: why is damage done now teal colored, and why do I show pet damage, even though I'm a rogue? o_O |
| 17:47.54 | benmaca | nice, now i can delete ktm -_- thanks a lot |
| 17:48.00 | trh | Gnarfoz: you're a beast.. *rawr* ;) |
| 17:48.04 | mitch0 | [ammo]: mind if I commit a Toggle show all windows on/off keybinding to Violation? |
| 17:48.05 | Gnarfoz | I am indeed. ;> |
| 17:48.28 | Seerah_ | well, since I can't commit, can someone please fix the bug in nQL? It's missing a " to close the string on line 26 in Comments.lua |
| 17:48.56 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Parser-3.0: Adds SW_Stats to OpDep to fix SW_FixLogStrings issues |
| 17:49.00 | benmaca | recount sends and receives data from swstats? |
| 17:49.44 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: SW_FixLogStrings issues seem fixed |
| 17:50.04 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: When you add SW_Stats to the opdeps? |
| 17:50.10 | trh | Seerah_: nQL is called what in the svn? |
| 17:50.15 | Antiarc|Work | I can add it to the Omen opdeps. Should help, I suspect? |
| 17:50.25 | NeoTron | has anyone tried grim reaper from x-perl here? |
| 17:50.29 | NeoTron | best addon ever |
| 17:50.38 | Seerah_ | trh: sorry, nQuestLog |
| 17:50.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42872 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Add SW_Stats to the opdeps to fix a fixlogstrings incompatibility |
| 17:51.05 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: wasnt't me. crytec applied that fix |
| 17:51.08 | NeoTron | MT died on pricne last night (he's a newer tank getting geared up) and grim showed he took 4 hits in 0.9 seconds - 1 parried, 3 crushing |
| 17:51.22 | Antiarc|Work | Well, that only applies when you're running Parser-3.0 disembedded |
| 17:51.30 | Gandharva | *cryect |
| 17:51.31 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Work (n=lopen@207.74.131.76) |
| 17:51.36 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42873 10/branches/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc: Threat-1.0: Add SW_Stats to the opdeps to fix a fixlogstrings incompatibility |
| 17:51.55 | Antiarc|Work | Wait, damn, that's a branch. |
| 17:51.58 | gnorlish | sounds like a bad time for shield block to be down |
| 17:52.14 | charon | Antiarc|Work: yes, threat of the others is displayed without any problems. perhaps they might be translating for me, checking that |
| 17:52.15 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: lots of people are running it disembedded. Including me. |
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| 17:53.08 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r42874 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua buffs/warlock.lua): SimpleSelfRebuff: fixed typo in warlock.lua. |
| 17:53.09 | NeoTron | gnorlish: pretty much yes |
| 17:53.12 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42875 10nQuestLog/modules/Comments.lua: nQuestLog: fixed missing ", report by Seerah |
| 17:53.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42876 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc: Threat-1.0: Add SW_Stats to the opdeps to fix a fixlogstrings incompatibility |
| 17:53.35 | benmaca | any ace lib sends dmg done to swstats? |
| 17:53.56 | Seerah_ | thank you, trh :) |
| 17:53.58 | Adirelle | trh: would you like something like a "buffbar" (mainly putting ssr categories into buttons) ? maybe in a separate addon |
| 17:54.01 | Gandharva | benmaca: none I think |
| 17:54.12 | trh | Antiarc|Work: [2007/07/05 19:50:17-38-x2]: ...ns\Omen\Libs\Threat-1.0\ThreatMobNameTranslation.lua:149: Conflicting translation for Narog in deDE: old is "Kampfhorn", new is "Narog". Please report to Antiarc.: |
| 17:54.19 | Funkeh` | whats up with baggins lately |
| 17:54.20 | trh | Antiarc|Work: Kampfhorn = a druid, narog = warrior |
| 17:54.24 | Funkeh` | creating wierd growth in PT3 |
| 17:54.32 | Funkeh` | ever since the tradegoods thing |
| 17:54.45 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Someone in your group is likely badly out of date :) |
| 17:55.03 | trh | Adirelle: don't think that's necessary... more important would be rebuffing <configurable> seconds before buff runs out =) |
| 17:55.36 | Adirelle | trh: hrm... gonna check that, it should propose to rebuff 30 seconds before the buff fades out |
| 17:56.12 | Adirelle | trh: and well for "buffbar", I'm still using ZHunter for the tracking popup... was just thinking of getting rid of it |
| 17:56.14 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: dont you ignore outofdate clients? |
| 17:56.23 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: No, not right now. |
| 17:56.29 | ravagernl | ~seen gagorian |
| 17:56.31 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace (1d 1h 2m 15s). Has said a total of 57 messages. Is idling for 3h 55m 47s, last said: 'Getting random players to do this and that is pissing me off :D'. |
| 17:56.39 | benmaca | and one last nooby question: my fubar is at 8mb in memory wich seems high. is it only the bar or the bar + all addons in it? |
| 17:56.42 | ravagernl | gagorian: [2007/07/05 19:52:40-1095-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Auto Shoot" does not exist. |
| 17:56.59 | trh | Adirelle: ah.. well.. i think it'd be more useful to have a option to "rebuff/not rebuff if other aspect is active" and use a other mod for the bar |
| 17:57.02 | NightHawkAtWork | 6 freaking usb ports on this stupid machine, and not a single firewire port. god i hate pcs. |
| 17:57.05 | mitch0 | any vio devs around? |
| 17:57.11 | Seerah_ | benmaca: are you running with embedded libs? |
| 17:57.17 | Gandharva | benmaca: are you running deiembedded? |
| 17:57.19 | trh | Adirelle: oh.. with a palading i got the error message that Translation "Blessing" does not exist |
| 17:57.21 | abug | okay as promised, I finally cooked up an example addon for calling protected functions from non-secure code |
| 17:57.26 | abug | http://abugaddons.googlecode.com/files/BreakSecureProtection.zip |
| 17:57.34 | Gandharva | *disembedded |
| 17:57.39 | Adirelle | trh: you have a high level paladin ? |
| 17:57.45 | trh | Adirelle: but that was few hours ago, so it maybe already be fixed |
| 17:57.49 | abug | call any of the protected functions from the Protected table |
| 17:57.51 | trh | Adirelle: no, it was the level 21 pala of a friend =) |
| 17:57.58 | Adirelle | oh |
| 17:58.06 | abug | they may or may not need hardware events, I haven't tested |
| 17:58.08 | Adirelle | I need to check blessing handling |
| 17:58.08 | trh | Adirelle: but i may have access to one if i ask |
| 17:58.31 | Fritti | abug: hrm.. call me sceptic |
| 17:58.36 | trh | Adirelle: the level 21 stuff worked fine.. even with the missing translation |
| 17:58.37 | Adirelle | trh: it's quite tricky to handle, cause you have your own blessing and can receive one from other paladins in group |
| 17:58.42 | Adirelle | trh: and same with auras |
| 17:58.45 | abug | try it out then :P |
| 17:58.49 | trh | Adirelle: ah |
| 17:58.53 | Mikk | mitch0: i've poked around in vio. shoot. |
| 17:59.03 | abug | it exploits a bug with giving _G a metatable |
| 17:59.08 | benmaca | Seerah_ / Gandharva no idea -_- |
| 17:59.12 | trh | Adirelle: that needs 2 paladings to test |
| 17:59.35 | Seerah_ | in your fubar folder, do you have a folder called libs with stuff like Ace2, etc, in it? |
| 17:59.42 | Fritti | yeah, if it really works, notify slouken |
| 17:59.44 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42877 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Threat-1.0: Merge a bunch of changes I accidentally made on the branch rather than trunk. |
| 17:59.47 | Seerah_ | if you don't know, you probably are running embedded |
| 17:59.53 | Adirelle | trh: yep... and will be quite hard to check :( |
| 18:00.22 | abug | I get the feeling his fix will be nerfing _G having a metatable which will make me sad |
| 18:00.23 | Seerah_ | benmaca: which means that the fubar memory probably includes memory of the libraries, too. |
| 18:00.24 | benmaca | yes Seerah_ |
| 18:00.39 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r42878 10SimpleSelfRebuff/locale-enUS.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: added missing localized string. |
| 18:00.41 | benmaca | fubar\libs\ <= a lot of stuff here |
| 18:00.52 | Fritti | what's the use of a _G metatable? curious? (I'm not on that guru level yet) |
| 18:01.03 | Antiarc|Work | Someone should write an addon called Aardvark that does nothing but take blame for Ace lib memory usage ;) |
| 18:01.07 | abug | monitoring changes in globals, restricting access |
| 18:01.13 | Seerah_ | benmaca: since FuBar is likely listed as an optional dependency of some mods, it probably loads first and thus will show all usage of your libs |
| 18:01.15 | abug | making them read-only |
| 18:01.17 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: :P |
| 18:01.18 | trh | Antiarc: it should blame it on KTM :) |
| 18:01.25 | abug | I've seen that done in a ckknight addon |
| 18:01.36 | Fritti | sure, but it'll hardly be gamebreaking if it gets nerfed |
| 18:01.41 | Seerah_ | benmaca: you can't *really* get an accurate representation of memory usage if you're running with embedded libs. |
| 18:01.50 | benmaca | oh ok |
| 18:01.59 | Antiarc|Work | It seems like it could seriously slow down...tons of stuff if _G gets a metatable. |
| 18:02.03 | abug | well we'd lose the ability to detect hooks and things |
| 18:02.04 | Gandharva | benmaca: If you want accurate numbers here, get WAU and reinstall your Ace2 Addons disembedded. |
| 18:02.08 | alext | its it recommended to run ace addons UN-embedded and just to put the libraries you need right in the /addons/ folder |
| 18:02.11 | benmaca | i tried with external libs but its a mess |
| 18:02.20 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42879 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: kill skulker on leo death |
| 18:02.26 | Fritti | abug: why? you can still just access _G? |
| 18:02.34 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... how'd QA miss this? |
| 18:02.41 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=116483023&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 18:02.56 | Gandharva | benmaca: Why a mess? |
| 18:02.57 | Trancer | alext: such a mess on the addons screen though :( |
| 18:03.19 | benmaca | anyway if a lib is required by an addon i use, except accuracy, i wont gain any free memory, right? |
| 18:03.26 | charon | anyone know how i can turn on own nick highlighting in hydrairc? |
| 18:03.37 | Fritti | I'm actually not sure, does accessing globals without _G also go through the metatable? (it should if it's consistent I guess) |
| 18:03.40 | charon | Antiarc: deDE clients have empty translation tables too |
| 18:04.03 | *** join/#wowace Ins- (n=sam@203.89-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:04.07 | Gandharva | benmaca: no, but your initial loading time will speed up. |
| 18:04.18 | benmaca | Gandharva, too much stuff on my addon dir, on my addon page in wow and some LUA errors i dont have when i use addons with included libs (french client) |
| 18:04.34 | abug | yeah it does frit |
| 18:04.34 | alext | Trancer: true |
| 18:04.46 | Trancer | alext: would be nice if blizzard could just allow you to 'cloak' an addon |
| 18:05.04 | Gandharva | benmaca: If you get errors by disembedding you have propably done something wrong |
| 18:05.07 | Trancer | or make a different tab just for libraries |
| 18:05.08 | Fritti | abug: well in any case, nice find, going to play witht his after tonights instance |
| 18:05.13 | *** join/#wowace ZealotOnAStick (n=vircuser@c-69-246-194-227.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 18:05.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ |
| 18:05.51 | abug | they might require a 'hardware events' to work right |
| 18:05.53 | Seerah_ | benmaca: don't worry about running disembedded |
| 18:05.58 | NeoTron | - Fixed a crash triggered by many unit frame AddOns. <-- finally? |
| 18:06.00 | Adirelle | abug: where do you trigger the __index function ? |
| 18:06.17 | Seerah_ | benmaca: do whatever works for you and you feel comfortable with |
| 18:06.27 | abug | that's part of the metatable, lua calls em events or somesuch |
| 18:06.35 | NeoTron | on a related note, have the "slow/laggy" login problem been fixe? |
| 18:06.36 | benmaca | maybe i must retry, but i hate all those libs:xxxxxx on my wow addon page :p |
| 18:06.49 | Adirelle | wait... cautch it, any access to _G will trigger the call |
| 18:06.49 | abug | it gets called whenever part of that table is accessed |
| 18:06.52 | Coruss | Kaydeethree: better question, why did some nub have to go and report it |
| 18:07.04 | abug | yeah |
| 18:07.21 | trh | Adirelle: btw: do you know the TrackingMenu? it added a menu with the trackable stuff to the tracking symbol on the minimap |
| 18:07.29 | trh | Adirelle: that was kinda nice |
| 18:07.30 | abug | basically inside that function becomes a little secure area |
| 18:07.31 | Adirelle | but doesn't _G need to be accessed from protected context ? |
| 18:07.48 | Kaydeethree | not like the server's not keeping logs of non-mage/druid/atiesh ports anyway... |
| 18:07.53 | Mikk | Coruss / Kaydeethree: I'm loving the guy that's basically saying he'll go play Halo2 and wait for Halo3 just because that "/console port" got removed |
| 18:08.16 | Adirelle | trh: I found this was "too far" from my buttons :p |
| 18:09.03 | trh | Adirelle: i never change my tracking too often =) |
| 18:09.04 | Adirelle | abug: I thing you could add a metatable to Protected to handle any function |
| 18:09.11 | trh | Adirelle: so it wasn't a real problem ;) |
| 18:09.12 | Adirelle | trh: I'm too lazy |
| 18:09.33 | nevcairiel | hm just tried abug's stuff, really works |
| 18:09.33 | abug | yeah probably would've been a good idea |
| 18:10.01 | mitch0 | abug: you'll be fameous :) |
| 18:10.15 | abug | I hope slouken names the patch after me |
| 18:10.19 | abug | :P |
| 18:10.24 | mitch0 | fixed abug :) |
| 18:10.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:10.32 | Mikk | hehehe |
| 18:10.37 | Seerah_ | :) |
| 18:10.51 | *** join/#wowace dRiN (n=blap@137-244.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net) |
| 18:10.53 | Mikk | mitch0: what was that about vio? |
| 18:11.07 | mitch0 | asking permission to commit a keybinding for it :) |
| 18:11.11 | mitch0 | show/hide windows |
| 18:11.29 | mitch0 | had to modify ToggleWindows(flag) a bit (nil == special case) |
| 18:11.29 | Mikk | oho. you'll want [Ammo] or vhaarr |
| 18:12.08 | mitch0 | guess I'll have to maintain my local changes then ;) both of them seem to be angry with me for some reason :) |
| 18:12.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:12.28 | nevcairiel | just ninja commit it :D |
| 18:12.36 | nevcairiel | like mikk would |
| 18:12.55 | mitch0 | I gave a fix for known closetgnome bug to vhaar and he hated me for it :( |
| 18:13.10 | yoshimo | abug, sry for asking, but what exactly can we do with your finding?? |
| 18:13.15 | nevcairiel | i hate dRiN now |
| 18:13.30 | mitch0 | anything what we could before this whole protected mess came in |
| 18:13.31 | dRiN | ooops |
| 18:13.33 | dRiN | sorry guys |
| 18:13.42 | dRiN | wasnt aware it was on all servers |
| 18:13.42 | abug | like Protected.ToggleAutoRun() |
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| 18:14.04 | nevcairiel | heh thats the func i tried |
| 18:14.09 | abug | the first thing I tried was hooking, but that tainted it to hell |
| 18:14.12 | mitch0 | abug: that would be SOOO awesome in connection with carto.waypoints |
| 18:14.23 | abug | so I had to use separate functions |
| 18:14.58 | mitch0 | wonder if they'll make it a bannable offence :) |
| 18:15.26 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 18:15.30 | nevcairiel | they will only fix it |
| 18:15.40 | Adirelle | mitch0: there was an addon to get from one point to another |
| 18:15.51 | nevcairiel | right, there WAS :p |
| 18:16.01 | Adirelle | was quite fun :p |
| 18:16.07 | Mikk | mitch0: tbh, vhaarr hates everyone. don't take it personally :P |
| 18:16.09 | abug | I think I'm gonna go try out fastcast myself, miss that addon |
| 18:16.10 | Kaelten | yep, they killed the movement functions in partial response to it. |
| 18:16.10 | kergoth | i miss autotravel. i still have my autotravel routes somewhere |
| 18:16.20 | Adirelle | it worked by setting up waypoints and paths |
| 18:16.24 | Kaelten | autotravel was awesome |
| 18:16.34 | Mikk | AbandonShip! |
| 18:16.39 | Kaelten | duskwood was never quite so bad. |
| 18:16.40 | trh | autotravel with flying mounts would be even better |
| 18:16.55 | Mikk | except we'd have to figure out height :S |
| 18:16.59 | kergoth | god, abandonship was so nice. i swear like 3 times a week i minimize the game while on a zepp and i end up bouncing back and forth for an hour |
| 18:17.11 | Mikk | indeed |
| 18:17.21 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42880 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - More memory improvements |
| 18:17.47 | Adirelle | autotravel was nice with corpse run too |
| 18:17.56 | Adirelle | died ? time to get a coffee :p |
| 18:18.06 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 18:18.10 | Kaelten | those where the days, right? |
| 18:18.13 | Mikk | verily |
| 18:18.18 | NeoTron | man autotravel.. i had set up some real nice routes |
| 18:18.33 | Kaelten | me too, I never fell into the sewers in stormwind because I got distracted |
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| 18:18.42 | NeoTron | one of the trickiest 2-way routes was going to/from dire maul |
| 18:18.46 | kergoth | darkshore->ironforge route ftw. go watch tv for half an hour |
| 18:18.54 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r42881 10UnitActionBars/ (25 files in 17 dirs): |
| 18:18.54 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 18:18.54 | CIA-22 | - Split FrameGroupBasic into separate modules, and modified Title for modules for consistency. |
| 18:18.56 | Kaelten | kergoth: lol |
| 18:19.00 | Kaelten | how did you handle the boat? |
| 18:19.04 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.07 | Antiarc|Work | Autotravel done! |
| 18:19.13 | Mikk | haha |
| 18:19.22 | Trancer | <3 windowed mode with sound in windows |
| 18:19.22 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:19.30 | Adirelle | anyway, gtg, gonna cook something to eat |
| 18:19.33 | Adirelle | cya |
| 18:19.41 | Kaelten | cya |
| 18:19.44 | Trancer | especially useful for fishing, you hear the bobber go under.. then alt tab back and click.. cast and alt tab again |
| 18:20.00 | vhaarr | mitch0: I didn't hate you for it, I just didn't like the patch, so I didn't check it in |
| 18:20.36 | Mikk | mitch0: see? =P |
| 18:20.57 | Mikk | ^ that's vhaarr lying. he really does hate you. just like everyone else. |
| 18:21.27 | Mikk | erm.. wait.. that didn't come out right |
| 18:21.46 | Mikk | that'd imply that everyone hates you, which isn't what i wanted to say. |
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| 18:22.09 | Codayus | vharr hates everyone and everyone hates mitch0? :-) |
| 18:22.12 | vhaarr | haha |
| 18:22.16 | trh | that's called freud'scher mistake ;) |
| 18:22.18 | vhaarr | yeah that sounds about right |
| 18:22.32 | Kemayo | I remember that the reason I came here for the first time ever, a bit over a year abo, was because I was wondering whether automatic travel was actually possible. |
| 18:23.13 | Mikk | sure. just get your chinese friends to steer him around for you. |
| 18:23.16 | Mikk | they're cheap enuf. |
| 18:23.34 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42882 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 18:23.34 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 18:23.34 | CIA-22 | - Now gathers more information about parameter list types so that tags can optimize codegen if they so wish. |
| 18:23.34 | CIA-22 | - Select optimizes far more now |
| 18:24.50 | Undine | Trancer: that isn't so useful anymore now that the bobber disappears instantly the cast bar ends :( |
| 18:25.10 | Kaelten | Kemayo: and we've been hoping you'd leave ever since |
| 18:25.11 | Kaelten | :P |
| 18:25.58 | Kaelten | some of my first coding in wow was hacks for auto travels menu |
| 18:26.03 | Kaelten | I forget what I was wanting to make it do. |
| 18:26.26 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42883 10Aloft/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:26.26 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 18:26.26 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a few more tag casings |
| 18:26.26 | CIA-22 | - Reworked some tags to use TagCompiler-1.0 abilities better |
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| 18:27.58 | mitch1 | hm. got disconnected just for thinking about using abug's stuff (wow kicked me too!) they're watching me! |
| 18:29.04 | abug | could be worse, you could be crashing from bad metatables |
| 18:29.12 | trh | warden probably integrates mind reading through electro-magnetic input =) |
| 18:32.10 | Undine | here's a question, what's a tag? |
| 18:32.38 | durcyn | it's something you put on a wall with a can of spraypaint to warn rival gangs to stay out of your territory, obviously. |
| 18:32.54 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42884 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - More memory improvements with leaving combat |
| 18:32.59 | abug | a body spray, it attracts estrogen laden creatures |
| 18:32.59 | trh | 'day' in german ;) |
| 18:33.30 | NightHawkAtWork | it's a game children play. |
| 18:33.31 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 18:33.50 | Undine | this reminds me of a bash quote ;) |
| 18:34.18 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42885 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: Assessment: Deaths - removed table.insert call |
| 18:34.27 | trh | it's also that littlepiece of paper showing the price in a supermarket |
| 18:34.53 | NightHawkAtWork | Or that bit of cloth on the back of your shirts that irritates your neck. |
| 18:35.55 | Gngsk | a word encased by angly brackets |
| 18:35.58 | Roartindon | Undine: But, to answer the question you probably were asking... roughly speaking, it's a system by which you can specify what you want displayed |
| 18:36.11 | Roartindon | Undine: eg. in PitBull, [name] will show your units name |
| 18:36.24 | Roartindon | if you use [name] [level], it'll show your name, then level |
| 18:36.42 | Undine | ah, thanks for that |
| 18:36.52 | Undine | annoyingly the wiki isn't displaying properly in ff atm |
| 18:36.53 | NightHawkAtWork | More properly, it's a static symbolic representation of dynamic code. |
| 18:37.09 | kergoth | well put |
| 18:37.34 | Roartindon | NightHawkAtWork: Well, there are lots of better descriptions, but I wanted one that'd answer his question without further questions :P |
| 18:37.35 | RogueShadow | There's the developer's answer, and the end users' answer. |
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| 18:38.03 | Undine | one day i'll stop playing long enough to learn lua |
| 18:38.03 | Roartindon | I've been having fun with TagCompiler lately, I even syntax highlight in Aloft/Assessment now :) |
| 18:38.05 | Undine | maybe |
| 18:38.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Roartindon: o_0 that's nifty |
| 18:38.29 | Undine | is it possible to get aloft to work on opposing faction (pve)? |
| 18:38.33 | mitch1 | darn. should "LeftButton" be localized? |
| 18:38.48 | Roartindon | Undine: Blizzard disabled it. It worked pre-2.1 |
| 18:38.52 | mitch1 | as in OnMouseDown(frame, button) |
| 18:38.56 | trh | mitch0: nope |
| 18:39.10 | Undine | that's a shame |
| 18:39.24 | mitch1 | hm. then I don't know what could be wrong. |
| 18:39.28 | Roartindon | Undine: Originally (1.0), opposing faction pve players showed up yellow. Then sometime around 1.8 or so, they became red. Then finally in 2.1, they are invisible. |
| 18:39.33 | mitch1 | let's hope it's a user error :) |
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| 18:41.25 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: ping |
| 18:41.28 | Gandharva | Kaelten: How about disabling ui-refresh in WAU2 until "Refresh Addons List" is done? Would this speed up the refresh? It's so damn slow. Ah, and I hate that banner on the bottom! |
| 18:41.48 | Kaelten | Gandharva: ads are needed if you want the site to survive |
| 18:42.04 | mitch1 | can anyone spot any glaring errors in this: http://ace.pastey.net/70364 |
| 18:42.50 | mitch1 | or any idea what can cause it not to work? (godly intervention does not count) |
| 18:43.07 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: You don't need to pass this as the first parameter |
| 18:43.19 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think. |
| 18:43.22 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Err, yes you do :P |
| 18:43.24 | abug | self? |
| 18:43.31 | Gandharva | Kaelten: Hm, ok, I understand this. But what about the refresh? |
| 18:43.31 | Kaelten | Gandharva: also its not slow for me, what kinda computer are you running? |
| 18:43.39 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Scripts are definitely called with a this as first parameter, and button as second |
| 18:43.42 | Antiarc|Work | I thought you needed it for self, but I thought "this" was a global handled by WoW |
| 18:43.57 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Change in 2.0.. let me find it |
| 18:43.58 | Kaelten | its taking like 30 -40 secs maybe for a refresh on mine |
| 18:44.09 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, okay. |
| 18:44.11 | Antiarc|Work | No citation needed |
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| 18:44.17 | Antiarc|Work | But I learned something :) |
| 18:44.29 | Gandharva | X2 3800+ @3GHz / X1900XT |
| 18:44.37 | Roartindon | The important part about it, is that scripts in 2.0 onwards, if hooked, must call their hooked scripts with the appropriate parameters |
| 18:44.40 | Roartindon | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=48647169&sid=1 |
| 18:44.46 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r42886 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 18:44.46 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:44.46 | CIA-22 | - Added low level PvP accessories. |
| 18:44.51 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42887 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 18:44.51 | CIA-22 | Recount - Adds "/recount hide" to hide the main window |
| 18:44.51 | CIA-22 | -Adds "/recount toggle" which allows hiding/showing of the main window |
| 18:44.53 | trh | Roartindon: no you don't need to have arguments, you could just check arg1 as button |
| 18:45.17 | kergoth | thatd be pretty silly though |
| 18:45.41 | Roartindon | (from Post 5) (NOTE: AddOns that hook script handlers must now pass these parameters): |
| 18:45.50 | Roartindon | trh: It's better to use arguments |
| 18:45.56 | Roartindon | trh: arg1 is a global lookup |
| 18:46.03 | Roartindon | parameters is almost free in comparison |
| 18:46.09 | Gandharva | Kaelten: It takes nearly 10sec here, whit "All" Tab open |
| 18:46.13 | mitch1 | ok, but back to the point, that code sniplet should work, right? :) |
| 18:46.21 | trh | Roartindon: like 1 global lookup matters when you move a frame once a year;) |
| 18:46.22 | Kaelten | thats slow? |
| 18:46.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:46.24 | Roartindon | mitch1: no obvious errors from inspection |
| 18:46.32 | Kaelten | 5-15 secs shouldn't be that bad |
| 18:46.36 | trh | mitch1: it doesnt has obvious errors |
| 18:46.38 | Gandharva | Yes, that's slow imo |
| 18:46.43 | Kaelten | most of the time taken up is probably xml parsing |
| 18:46.45 | Roartindon | mitch1: Chuck some traces in? self:Print/etc? |
| 18:46.46 | kergoth | http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/10456 looks handy |
| 18:47.08 | mitch1 | well, given that it works here, I didn't really expect any errors. but then, I have no idea why it doesn't work for him/her :( |
| 18:47.25 | Roartindon | mitch1: Probably using middle/right button! :P |
| 18:47.32 | mitch1 | could be :) |
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| 18:47.45 | Kaelten | we can test it if it makes any real difference |
| 18:47.50 | mitch1 | but right button opens Dewdrop now, that should give him a clue |
| 18:48.08 | mitch1 | middle button is a possible candidate :) |
| 18:48.12 | Roartindon | is there logic that prevents hooking the script? ie. if there's a lock option set? |
| 18:48.14 | Gandharva | Kaelten: WAU does this in under 1sec for me. Or are you parsing so much more? |
| 18:48.16 | mitch1 | Kaelten: it's RangeDisplay |
| 18:48.26 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42888 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Comments/Comments.lua: |
| 18:48.26 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: (Drycoded) |
| 18:48.26 | CIA-22 | - Comments: Display rep gains and quest series. |
| 18:48.39 | mitch1 | kaelten: and I'd welcome any tests actually, not just regarding this ;) |
| 18:48.41 | Kaelten | mitch1: hrm? |
| 18:48.44 | mitch1 | oh |
| 18:48.48 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:48.50 | mitch1 | thought that was aimed at me. |
| 18:48.53 | Kaelten | sorry |
| 18:48.54 | mitch1 | nevermind then :) |
| 18:49.04 | mitch1 | (although you could still test it a bit :) |
| 18:49.07 | Kaelten | Gandharva: no, but it is a different parser |
| 18:49.14 | Kaelten | I'm not sure how wau1 does it. |
| 18:49.27 | Dotted | much slower parser oO |
| 18:49.46 | Gandharva | Kaelten: Me too, but ist a lot faster ;) |
| 18:51.24 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r42889 10Skinner/AddonSkins/ (Dewdrop.lua EnchantrixBarker.lua): |
| 18:51.24 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Fix for Enchantrix/EnchantrixBarker |
| 18:51.24 | CIA-22 | - Dewdrop skin updated |
| 18:52.06 | Gandharva | Kaelten: I think its the ui refresh that's slowing down the Addon refresh. If you check "Outdated" instead of "All" it's much quicker. |
| 18:52.07 | mitch1 | I ninja-edited the description on wowi for the leftbutton restriction, just in case |
| 18:52.29 | Kaelten | possible, |
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| 18:54.38 | mitch1 | darn. I lost my big knife (The Bread Slicer) |
| 18:54.44 | Mikk | ok hmm... how much does slouken's savedvar writer hate members pointing at the parent table? |
| 18:55.44 | CIA-22 | 03seerah * r42890 10nQuestLog/modules/ (Comments.lua DetailsFrame.lua): |
| 18:55.44 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog: |
| 18:55.44 | CIA-22 | - rolled in Mazzlefizz's fixes for LightHeaded and viewing items in the Dressing Room |
| 18:55.45 | mitch1 | mikk; sounds like an incoming crash :) |
| 18:56.02 | Chompers | we've got a melee dps group+ ench shaman |
| 18:56.14 | deltron | enh |
| 18:56.18 | deltron | not ench |
| 18:56.29 | Mikk | then again, acedb will likely choke on it too when applying defaults and whatnot |
| 18:56.30 | Chompers | its amazing :D |
| 18:56.33 | Seerah_ | I was trying to commit to svn.wowace.com instead of dev.wowace.com |
| 18:56.37 | Seerah_ | all better! :P |
| 18:57.02 | Seerah_ | and nQL should be bug free! |
| 18:58.21 | Gandharva | Kaelten: The changelog features WAU uses would also be very very nice. And what about giving people, that donate maybe 10$ to wowace, the possibility to disable the commercial? |
| 18:58.35 | Kaelten | both are being considered |
| 18:58.52 | Kaelten | the first is already implemented internally but is waiting on server support to finalize |
| 19:00.06 | Jagobah | nQL doesn't say "Work Complete!" for me anymore ;( |
| 19:00.55 | kergoth | Jagobah: :( |
| 19:01.04 | Gandharva | Kaelten: But I think Razor1911 will crack it anyway xD |
| 19:01.17 | Chompers | crack wau2? |
| 19:01.19 | Chompers | :P |
| 19:01.36 | Kaelten | Razor1911? |
| 19:01.42 | Trancer | Juarez Kids |
| 19:01.57 | Seerah_ | Jagobah: oh yeah, forgot about that one.... |
| 19:02.18 | Mikk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor_1911 |
| 19:02.52 | Trancer | they got a wikipedia page, hah |
| 19:03.11 | dalvarez | lol |
| 19:03.36 | Gandharva | 2007 Windows Vista Only Game Cracked ^^ |
| 19:03.48 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42891 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 19:03.48 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 19:03.48 | CIA-22 | - Fixed bracketLevel errors |
| 19:04.50 | Seerah_ | Jagobah: I don't have time to look for it atm, I'll take a peek when I get home tonight - if it's a simple blatant fix then I'll see it. Otherwise, we'll have to enlist someone else's help. ;) |
| 19:05.01 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42892 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:05.01 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 19:05.01 | CIA-22 | - Added FuBar text options: Damage Dealt, Damage Taken, Fight Damage Dealt, Fight Damage Taken, Healing Done, Healing Taken, HPS, Deaths |
| 19:05.52 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42893 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: Added non-feral Faerie Fire. |
| 19:08.05 | abyssichate | Is there a way to hide/move the coolDown button on the minimap? |
| 19:09.51 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42894 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added :ToggleThreatPublish() for those people that need to turn off threat publishing for whatever reason. Generally shouldn't be needed. |
| 19:11.44 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42895 10Assessment/CoreModules/DisplaySets.lua: |
| 19:11.44 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 19:11.44 | CIA-22 | - Made Filter Type option work again (broken when tags were syntax highlighted) |
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| 19:13.51 | Chompers | gruuls ground slam announce is completly off in bigwigs |
| 19:14.06 | sbu | Pheredhel: hmm ccbreaker broken now? |
| 19:14.11 | sbu | doesnt show me any messages |
| 19:14.12 | Chompers | its happening upto 8 seconds before the timer finishes |
| 19:16.42 | hypetech | Chompers: I noticed that as well |
| 19:17.06 | Pheredhel | sbu: looks like i has some problems with the filter in raids |
| 19:17.27 | Chompers | Funkeh`, any chance you could take a look at it? |
| 19:17.42 | hypetech | Chompers: every time lately on vent we hear "ground slam in xx seconds....oooor now" =( |
| 19:17.48 | Funkeh` | not really much i can do since i don't really raid there any more |
| 19:17.50 | Chompers | same |
| 19:17.54 | Funkeh` | last time i was there it was fine |
| 19:18.00 | Funkeh` | but transcriptor logs will help |
| 19:18.03 | Chompers | it doesn't help that our melee dps all have 700ms png |
| 19:18.06 | Chompers | *ping |
| 19:18.19 | Funkeh` | ground slam isn't synced so souldn't matter |
| 19:18.40 | Funkeh` | oh you mean vent |
| 19:18.42 | Funkeh` | nvm |
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| 19:18.59 | Chompers | how do i make a transcript log? |
| 19:19.05 | Roartindon | You really should notice getting tossed into the air :P |
| 19:19.31 | Funkeh` | download transcriptor and rpess the button |
| 19:19.36 | Funkeh` | it glows red when its recording |
| 19:19.43 | Chompers | okay, if we wipe again i'll do that |
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| 19:19.48 | Funkeh` | ui reload makes the log in saved variables |
| 19:19.48 | Chompers | about to start our attempt |
| 19:20.06 | Pheredhel | problem is I seldom have people to help testing in raids |
| 19:20.56 | Funkeh` | in all honesty the final change i made to ground slam made it spot on the mark |
| 19:21.11 | Funkeh` | i haven't been in 2 weeks or so so dunno if they hotfixed it |
| 19:21.22 | vhaarr | I was there last night, was spot on for me |
| 19:21.24 | vhaarr | last week as well |
| 19:21.27 | Chompers | it's only recently that it's been weird |
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| 19:21.36 | vhaarr | never been weird for me |
| 19:21.41 | Funkeh` | maybe your guildies have old versions |
| 19:22.00 | Chompers | i've got 41343 |
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| 19:37.24 | Neebler | can I Wham! my Oingo Boingo into your Velvet Underground? |
| 19:37.44 | Gandharva | oO |
| 19:38.12 | mitch0 | vhaarr: may I commit a keybinding to Violation? (toggle windows) |
| 19:39.20 | vhaarr | mitch0: show me the diff |
| 19:40.03 | mitch0 | vhaar: http://ace.pastey.net/70365 |
| 19:40.28 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42896 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added TPS sigma resets on a >=51% threat dump. Should make TPS numbers a lot more accurate for dumps while maintaining a relatively accurate number for knockbacks/feints and the like. |
| 19:40.38 | mitch0 | oh, and the bindings.xml, sec |
| 19:41.13 | mitch0 | http://ace.pastey.net/70366 |
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| 19:47.50 | Antiarc|Work | So I'm getting a browbeating from my wife for not waking her up for our Kazzak kill yesterday |
| 19:48.02 | Antiarc|Work | I'd feel bad, but it's pretty awesome that my wife's upset she missed a Kazzak kill. :D |
| 19:48.12 | liquiem | lol |
| 19:48.31 | Gandharva | Hm, I'm thinking of going 2H Fury. Anyone tried it out here in TBC? |
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| 19:48.51 | Chompers | are you mad? |
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| 19:49.48 | Azurewrath | mhm.. what does a green bar in recount mean? |
| 19:50.04 | Gandharva | Why mad? I think it has a lot of potential. |
| 19:50.32 | Chompers | without mortal strike? |
| 19:52.00 | Gandharva | Sure http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?050203213320000000000000505000502521205012500000000000000000000000 |
| 19:52.04 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: can you configure the pullout bars to show absolute thread diff and not tps ? |
| 19:52.19 | Gandharva | This is the specc I'm thinking about |
| 19:52.22 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: No config for that now, but I'll add it eventually |
| 19:52.33 | mitch0 | abs threat diff would be neat |
| 19:52.51 | mitch0 | I miss that too |
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| 19:57.24 | Chompers | its worth a try Gandharva |
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| 19:57.32 | abyssichate | Am I wrong or was it possible to display what spells you used to inflict damage, percentages of damage dealt for each spell you used and stuff like that in Assessment? |
| 19:57.46 | Chompers | i'd very much like to know your results when you try it out |
| 19:58.01 | Gandharva | Chompers: Maybe 1 point into Rampage... But it's a mess to keep it up... |
| 19:58.43 | Antiarc|Work | I love Rampage. |
| 19:58.47 | Antiarc|Work | The beta bug was the best ever |
| 19:58.58 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: hehe jeah :) |
| 19:59.01 | Antiarc|Work | My stupid undergeared warrior was getting like 2k cleaves at level 60 |
| 19:59.29 | Gandharva | But it should scale. The better your gear gets the worse is Rampage. |
| 19:59.30 | Fisker- | how do i hacked WoW : |
| 19:59.31 | Fisker- | :< |
| 19:59.42 | Antiarc|Work | It's still a sexy little AP buff. |
| 20:00.01 | Gandharva | But costs 20 Rage every 30secs |
| 20:00.10 | Antiarc|Work | It's basically an extra 123 damage to Bloodthirst |
| 20:00.10 | Kinkx | Gandharva - 2h Fury -> http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kargath&n=George |
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| 20:00.52 | Gandharva | Look, look George respecced from 31/30 |
| 20:00.53 | Antiarc|Work | (Which is equivalent to 637 AP on a 2.7 speed 1h weapon) |
| 20:01.03 | Gandharva | I'm 33/28 atm |
| 20:01.48 | abug | hack wow: http://abugaddons.googlecode.com/files/BreakSecureProtection.zip |
| 20:02.05 | Antiarc|Work | #char us Kargath George |
| 20:02.22 | Fisker- | where do i know george from? |
| 20:02.23 | Antiarc|Work | No ThraeBot :( |
| 20:02.35 | Fisker- | ah yes the thunderfury movie |
| 20:02.41 | Gandharva | Here is my Warri: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&n=Gandharva |
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| 20:04.03 | Kinkx | Whats the hit % cap with a 2h at lvl 70, still 5% right? 5.6% vs. bosses? |
| 20:04.21 | Gandharva | no ~8,6% on bosses |
| 20:04.35 | Arrowmaster | abug: so your overwriting the global metatable? |
| 20:04.47 | Kinkx | Where do you have that number from? |
| 20:04.59 | Gandharva | elitistjerks |
| 20:05.28 | Kinkx | hmm ok |
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| 20:05.40 | Kalman| | Kinkx: It's 8,6% for specials/2Hauto. |
| 20:06.05 | Kalman| | They suffer an additional 1% per level beyond the 0.2% from defense. No one knows why, but it's pretty well tested. (Oh, hunter specials and autoshot also @ 8.6%.) |
| 20:06.09 | Kinkx | Anyone know how thats calculated? |
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| 20:06.13 | abug | yeah arrow |
| 20:06.18 | Kinkx | Ah.. I see |
| 20:06.31 | abug | although it doesn't have one, unless another addon uses one |
| 20:06.34 | Chompers | your gear is almost exactly like mine Gandharva |
| 20:06.37 | Chompers | yay :D |
| 20:06.49 | Kalman| | DW specials also suffer the 1% extra miss per level; DW auto doesn't. |
| 20:07.01 | abug | it's a little pocket of taint ignoring goodness |
| 20:07.04 | vhaarr | mitch0: I'm a bit torn between using traditional keybindings and AceOption keybindings |
| 20:07.19 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: Then how'd I score misses on raid boss autoattacks with 310 hit + Precision? o.0 |
| 20:07.22 | Gandharva | 1H/Schild: 135 hit rating (~8,6%) |
| 20:07.22 | Gandharva | 2H: 135 hit rating (~8,6%) |
| 20:07.22 | Gandharva | Ranged: 135 hit rating (~8,6%) |
| 20:07.22 | Gandharva | DW: ~400 hit rating (~25,5%) -> maybe higher |
| 20:07.46 | Gandharva | Chompers: post your link :) |
| 20:07.50 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: Which raid boss? |
| 20:07.51 | Gandharva | armory |
| 20:08.13 | Roartindon | Antiarc: there's always a 1% chance you can miss, no matter what rating you have |
| 20:08.22 | Kalman| | Roartindon: Not true for melee. |
| 20:08.22 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: Only with spells |
| 20:08.25 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: Magtheridon |
| 20:08.32 | Chompers | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Chomps |
| 20:08.47 | Chompers | well, i'm missing a few of your SSC pieces, but getting close |
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| 20:09.22 | Chompers | one more god damn vortex for the upgrade :< |
| 20:09.32 | Gandharva | *brrrr* leather boots! |
| 20:09.39 | Gandharva | ;) |
| 20:09.51 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: IIRC, DW is at 25.6, not 24.6, and no one knows why. |
| 20:09.51 | Chompers | i'm desperate! |
| 20:09.59 | Antiarc|Work | Bizarre. |
| 20:10.02 | Antiarc|Work | But okay. |
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| 20:10.19 | Kalman| | Probably just to irritate the people doing theorycraft, tbh. :) |
| 20:10.32 | Chompers | i'm not happy with my spec though, i miss second wind |
| 20:10.32 | Antiarc|Work | If I was a WoW dev I'd totally do that |
| 20:10.52 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.18 | rjp_ | Antiarc|Work, they pretty much do that with how easily frost nova breaks |
| 20:11.36 | rjp_ | also fearChanceToBreakOnDamage = 0.0; // do not change this value |
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| 20:12.23 | Mikk | math.randomseed(CLIENT_VERSION) |
| 20:12.31 | rjp_ | hahaha |
| 20:12.32 | Gandharva | Chompers: Obsidian Clodstompers are nice blue plate boots |
| 20:12.37 | Mikk | chanceToBreakOnDamage = random() |
| 20:12.58 | Chompers | i've got the sha'tari wrought greaves |
| 20:13.19 | Chompers | but i like the stats on my leather boots, if i'm taking dps i use the greaves |
| 20:13.26 | Chompers | *taking damage |
| 20:14.28 | Antiarc|Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114781996&postId=1162234578&sid=1#161 |
| 20:14.29 | Antiarc|Work | What. |
| 20:15.45 | Chompers | THERE IS A BUG FIX NOW |
| 20:15.55 | Chompers | i need some info first... |
| 20:16.01 | Chompers | NO FIX IT NOW, NOW I SAY |
| 20:16.48 | Antiarc|Work | #wowi-lounge is AWESOME right now |
| 20:16.56 | Antiarc|Work | There's a guy in there asking if he should buy wowglider |
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| 20:17.04 | Gandharva | omg |
| 20:18.34 | Antiarc|Work | You all missed it. |
| 20:19.23 | Chompers | he left :< |
| 20:19.50 | Antiarc|Work | He held such promise too |
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| 20:20.09 | Chompers | but the 1-60 grind is terrible |
| 20:20.13 | Chompers | it needs updating |
| 20:20.40 | Gandharva | So, George respecced... MUST DO THE SAME! xD |
| 20:22.22 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42897 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: kill sentinel and legionaire timers on astro death |
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| 20:28.38 | Gandharva | Gandharva: how much hit rating is 1% on level 70? |
| 20:28.48 | Gandharva | 20 or so? |
| 20:29.49 | Kalman| | 15.6, iirc? |
| 20:29.53 | Antiarc|Work | That sounds right |
| 20:30.02 | Antiarc|Work | 310 hit rating is 19.6% +hit for me |
| 20:30.13 | Antiarc|Work | So that works out to 15.81? |
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| 20:33.27 | Gandharva | 15.825 sounds good. Thanks |
| 20:34.22 | Gandharva | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?050203213320000000000000505000502521205012500000000000000000000000#none |
| 20:34.24 | ThePug[zZz] | 4 str 4 stam leather belt lvl 18 UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 20:34.34 | Jagobah | gahahhaaah |
| 20:34.41 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Is Insignificance in Threat-1.0? |
| 20:34.44 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 20:34.44 | Jagobah | I love those recordings |
| 20:34.52 | Gagorian | kk |
| 20:34.54 | Antiarc|Work | Though Blizzard misspells it as Insignifigance |
| 20:35.04 | Gandharva | wrong link. sry. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?350003013420000000000000505000502521005212500000000000000000000000 |
| 20:35.12 | Gagorian | Antiarc, lol that's why I didn't find it |
| 20:35.36 | Gandharva | gives me 8,6% hit with my current gear |
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| 20:35.59 | Gandharva | still not sure about rampage... |
| 20:36.30 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r42898 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Dewdrop.lua: Skinner: Fix for Dewdrop changes :( |
| 20:37.18 | Thrae | Can anyone think of a weapon that does Holy damage? |
| 20:37.27 | Roartindon | Thrae: Wand from BRD |
| 20:37.33 | Roartindon | The one that looks like a star |
| 20:37.35 | Thrae | Roartindon: The name of it? |
| 20:37.42 | Roartindon | umm.. lemme think |
| 20:38.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Bah. Why doesn't recount have a FuBar icon? |
| 20:38.17 | Megalon | threa: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22254 |
| 20:38.40 | Thrae | Megalon: Excellent, thanks |
| 20:38.48 | Roartindon | thanks megalon :) |
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| 20:40.27 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42899 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:40.27 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: (Drycoded) |
| 20:40.27 | CIA-22 | -Tablet minWidth, maxHeight, and strata should be changeable without reloading the UI. Probably. Maybe. We'll see. |
| 20:40.57 | Chompers | gruul at 8% with 1/2 the raid dead |
| 20:41.02 | Chompers | aieee |
| 20:41.16 | durcyn | then half the raid is stupid |
| 20:41.21 | Roartindon | Chompers: How many growths? |
| 20:41.26 | Chompers | 15 |
| 20:41.36 | Roartindon | Chompers: If only half the raid hadn't died :P |
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| 20:41.58 | NeoTron | we did lurker tuesday |
| 20:42.15 | NeoTron | and around 21% he decided to bug. after a dive, the mode was still up above water (not attacking) |
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| 20:42.38 | Roartindon | NeoTron: Yeah, he does that sometimes |
| 20:42.43 | NeoTron | when it was time for him to reemerge, he did so but started spouting in a random direction that happened to be pretty much where hafl the raid was standing killing the last add.. |
| 20:42.46 | Roartindon | NeoTron: He'll 'emerge' properly at the right time |
| 20:42.56 | Roartindon | NeoTron: Oh ick |
| 20:43.03 | NeoTron | normally he just goes for the MT |
| 20:43.48 | NeoTron | could have been avoided but we never had him spout the wrong way before |
| 20:46.23 | Hjalte | He starts the spout in whatever direction the person with the aggro is. |
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| 20:50.00 | Gandharva | NeoTron: This happens when you kill the inner Elites too slow. L2DPS ;) |
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| 20:52.58 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:55.07 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 20:55.10 | Antiarc|Work | \o/ |
| 20:55.18 | abyssichate | is that good? |
| 20:55.25 | Gandharva | sounds so ^^ |
| 20:55.27 | Kaelten | Antiarc: I hear Threat's Changelog is massive ! |
| 20:55.46 | Antiarc|Work | Wait, what? |
| 20:55.54 | hypetech | lol |
| 20:55.56 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: another thing i noticed today .. when i target myself, i get a threatlist for myself .. can that be stopped somehow ? :P |
| 20:56.12 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: I guess so, but I left it in for mind control and stuff :P |
| 20:56.19 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:56.20 | Antiarc|Work | (ie, friendly player threatlists) |
| 20:56.22 | hypetech | nevcairiel: don't target yourself, and don't pull aggro from yourself |
| 20:56.28 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: DPS yourself slower |
| 20:56.33 | nevcairiel | i am a healer :P |
| 20:56.35 | Kaelten | lol, Threat's change log is 140kb or so, allegedly. |
| 20:56.38 | nevcairiel | just for controlling purpose |
| 20:56.52 | charon | #char eu antonidas wolkenbruch |
| 20:56.56 | kergoth | damnit damnit damnit gmail, why does starring negate muting.. or rather, the thread stays set to is:muted, but is:muted goes away when a new mail comes in.. and it hits the inbox anyway |
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| 20:57.04 | charon | ... hmm |
| 20:57.34 | charon | wtb spec display on inspect |
| 20:58.09 | Kaelten | heh looks like 112kb |
| 20:58.10 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:58.16 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Where do you see this? |
| 20:58.21 | Antiarc|Work | Though I'm not surprised. |
| 20:58.24 | Kaelten | files.wowace.com |
| 20:58.30 | Roartindon | http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb121/Aroooga/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_070507_032426.jpg <-- real, or faked/staged? |
| 20:58.43 | Kaelten | has all the commit notes going back to 38395 |
| 20:59.27 | Antiarc|Work | hah |
| 20:59.27 | Antiarc|Work | wow |
| 20:59.39 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:00.22 | Josh_Borke | bye |
| 21:01.33 | hypetech | almost a mil dmg in 2v2? |
| 21:01.35 | hypetech | 0.o |
| 21:01.59 | Antiarc|Work | Totally possible |
| 21:02.09 | Antiarc|Work | We had a resto shaman fight a BM hunter once for a solid half hour |
| 21:02.15 | Antiarc|Work | He lost because he disconnected :/ |
| 21:02.16 | Kalman| | 2hrs 18 minute fight. |
| 21:02.21 | hypetech | how did only one person get a KB |
| 21:02.27 | NightHawkAtWork | totally possible |
| 21:02.28 | Kalman| | Probably one team gave up. |
| 21:02.36 | NightHawkAtWork | ever seen resto druids duel? >< |
| 21:02.41 | Kalman| | Priest/druid vs. shaman/druid. |
| 21:03.04 | Antiarc|Work | The hunter kept trapping our shaman and bandaging |
| 21:03.12 | Antiarc|Work | At one point, he had to start trapping and then making bandages |
| 21:03.20 | hypetech | lol |
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| 21:08.10 | CIA-22 | 03pheredhel * r42900 10CCBreaker/CCBreaker.lua: CCBreaker: fixing a bug that prevented CCBreaker from working in group/raid |
| 21:08.37 | Pheredhel | sbu: bug fixed |
| 21:08.37 | Mikk | aka "fixed a bug that made it effin useless" :P |
| 21:08.44 | Pheredhel | yes ^^ |
| 21:09.09 | sbu | ;o |
| 21:09.09 | Gandharva | FuBar_QuestsFu-r42899\Details\Details.lua:376: attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
| 21:09.11 | sbu | thank you |
| 21:09.22 | Pheredhel | it only showed when you break the spell yourself or someone else (not in group) broke it |
| 21:10.58 | Pheredhel | hmm, the promlem is finding people to help testing it ;) |
| 21:11.08 | Pheredhel | so most of the time i have to do it solo |
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| 21:11.49 | xyu | hi hi |
| 21:13.09 | xyu | Is there any way to change alchemy masteries after youv'e chosen one? Example, elixir to transmute master? |
| 21:13.53 | Pheredhel | think they introduced this in 2.1 or so |
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| 21:16.17 | xyu | Yep, just wondering the method to do it |
| 21:18.36 | NightHawkAtWork | Last I knew there was no way to change alchemy specialization, but if they did indeed change it, I'd try talking to the npc(s) who gave you the quest(s) for the specialization |
| 21:19.19 | evl | change alchemy specialization |
| 21:19.41 | evl | " Weird, I talked to the alchy trainer in LC and it gave me the dialog box to respec..." |
| 21:19.43 | evl | says google |
| 21:19.58 | durcyn | yes, you can change alchemy specializations now. |
| 21:20.06 | durcyn | you can change -any- profession specialization, iirc. |
| 21:21.27 | harldephin | what are those non-xml xml-files good for that are being saved in the \Interface\ directory ? (e.g. backup000.xml) |
| 21:21.33 | Kinkx | xyu - Go to your Mastery trainer, then you can unlearn it for 100g |
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| 21:26.09 | xyu | thanks guys |
| 21:26.15 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42901 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Comments/Comments.lua Details/Details.lua): |
| 21:26.15 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 21:26.15 | CIA-22 | - Fix: \Details.lua:376: attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
| 21:26.21 | Kemayo | Gandharva: That should (probably) fix things. |
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| 21:27.13 | Hjalte | Pheredhel, does your addon report the breaking of more than just polymorph? |
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| 21:27.41 | Matsuka | Is there an ace addon that will give you the time left to leave combat in a bar maybe ? |
| 21:28.00 | Pheredhel | Hjalte: right now: polymorph, schackle, sap, hibernate and freezing trap effect |
| 21:28.01 | Fragger--- | not that i know of |
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| 21:28.38 | Hjalte | Pheredhel, do you tell who broke it, with anything else than polymorph? |
| 21:28.52 | Pheredhel | with all of them |
| 21:29.05 | Hjalte | Oh.. I didn't know that was possible. |
| 21:29.13 | Pheredhel | it is :) |
| 21:29.14 | Hjalte | I didnt think it was in the combat log. |
| 21:29.36 | Pheredhel | its basicly the same message polymorph provides |
| 21:29.50 | Hjalte | It must have been added recently, I think. |
| 21:30.46 | Pheredhel | maybe, startet writing it about 3 weeks ago |
| 21:31.21 | Pheredhel | entangling roots seems to be the only one not sending a message |
| 21:31.48 | Pheredhel | but it also doesn't break on all damage |
| 21:32.05 | Hjalte | I just remember the author of BigBrother complaining that Polymorph was the only CC-spell that yilded a break message. But that is some time ago. |
| 21:33.46 | Pheredhel | hmm, this might at least be the reason, it's the only spell BigBrother chatches |
| 21:34.10 | Pheredhel | and this was one of the reasons why I decided to write this ;) |
| 21:36.25 | Kaelten | http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/groovy-dancing-girl-p1.php |
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| 21:39.22 | Anmoch_ | anyone else having problems with DrDamage? |
| 21:39.30 | Anmoch_ | something about SetBonuses not being there |
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| 21:40.37 | Chompers | Recount-$Revision: 42887 $\Tracker.lua:394: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'count' (a nil value) |
| 21:40.46 | Chompers | 500 of those in bugsack :O |
| 21:44.24 | Cryect | hmm |
| 21:45.29 | Cryect | Would check it ou chompers if the fixing to the authentication server that isn't supposed to effect game logins was actually not effecting game logins :-p |
| 21:46.30 | Chompers | :P |
| 21:46.34 | Chompers | no rush at all |
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| 21:47.00 | Cryect | Oh I think I know what happned >_> |
| 21:47.10 | Cryect | I freed a table I shouldn't have prolly |
| 21:47.14 | NeoTron | Kaelten: the next dance for WoW? heh |
| 21:47.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:47.39 | NeoTron | only problem is people would think it looked unnatural and fake |
| 21:47.46 | Chompers | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.47 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:49.30 | Cryect | Chompers do you have the rest the debug stack for either of those |
| 21:49.47 | Cryect | just put them in a pastey if you could for me |
| 21:50.30 | Chompers | sure |
| 21:51.30 | Chompers | hmm, that's the only thing shown |
| 21:52.21 | Cryect | yeah buggrabber does that if it occurs more than once |
| 21:52.29 | Cryect | often times there is an x1 of the same entry |
| 21:52.37 | Cryect | ofthe first time it happened with the full stack |
| 21:52.45 | Cryect | doesn't show the stack in case its a lot of things calling it |
| 21:53.37 | Chompers | a questsfu error that occured once has all the data, the others dont |
| 21:53.39 | Arrowmaster | are the auth servers having issues? |
| 21:53.45 | Cryect | yes |
| 21:53.53 | Chompers | so you're right |
| 21:53.53 | Cryect | read the message on the login screen its funny :-p |
| 21:53.54 | Chompers | :P |
| 21:54.05 | Cryect | they are "working" on the auth servers but it shouldn't affect game logins |
| 21:54.20 | Arrowmaster | i got DCed so i dont see a message on the login screen |
| 21:55.08 | Cryect | ah, well restart wow and you will :-p |
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| 21:59.08 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42902 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Potential fix for infinite recursion on :FreeTableRecurse, dry coded since auth servers are broken |
| 21:59.21 | Chompers | thanks Cryect |
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| 21:59.40 | Cryect | Prolly will still get that tracker bug though |
| 21:59.54 | Cryect | Can't see anything obvious about that |
| 21:59.56 | Ominous | is there a way to bypass the thing which makes you have to pay for wireless internet at train stations etc? |
| 22:01.29 | RogueShadow | you in the right forum Ominous? |
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| 22:01.36 | RogueShadow | chatroom |
| 22:01.38 | RogueShadow | channel |
| 22:01.40 | RogueShadow | etc... |
| 22:01.42 | RogueShadow | .... |
| 22:01.45 | MikkTard | #breakthelaw is ------------> that way |
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| 22:03.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Ominous: I imagine there is. I doubt anyone here will tell you, at least not openly. :P |
| 22:03.43 | RogueShadow | You know... I was at an ITT Tech and they were having a LAN party, and while they were there they were watching an X-Men2 rip before it came out on DVD. And the program director and everything saw it. And they didn't do anything. |
| 22:04.00 | RogueShadow | I thought that was weird. |
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| 22:04.18 | Cryect | sounds like a question for #wowi-lounge |
| 22:04.26 | NightHawkAtWork | Piracy is the new white collar crime. |
| 22:04.44 | RogueShadow | We were playing Unreal Tournament 2003, it was fun. Had projector screens and all. |
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| 22:07.08 | Gagorian | Ok, need melee theorycraft nerd now |
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| 22:07.53 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: for? |
| 22:08.05 | Gagorian | Weapon skill rating and hit chance calculation |
| 22:08.32 | Chompers | Antiarc is your man |
| 22:08.45 | Gnarfoz | 0.04% hit per point of rating your weapon skill exceeds the opponents defense, right? |
| 22:08.52 | Chompers | he seems to know his stuff, damn rogues :P |
| 22:08.56 | Cryect | no |
| 22:09.00 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42903 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:09.00 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 22:09.00 | CIA-22 | - More work on melee module, added some buff/debuff scanning |
| 22:09.01 | Cryect | its not 0.04% |
| 22:09.06 | Gnarfoz | drrr |
| 22:09.09 | Cryect | and they don't know the exact numbers either |
| 22:09.18 | Cryect | its strange stuff when its nonlevel opponents |
| 22:09.24 | Gnarfoz | why is it I can't get in touch with you, but when I answer stuff, you're there :p |
| 22:09.41 | MikkTard | spidersense |
| 22:09.50 | Cryect | Because I'm idle 95% of the time except when you don't want me? :-p |
| 22:09.53 | Gnarfoz | tingling :p |
| 22:10.06 | Gagorian | Well, so, anyone? :P |
| 22:10.08 | voln | random question...I have always done updates WITH externals and I am looking to start doing them WITHOUT externals...is there an easy way to do this via an update option or do I need to manually go into each addon and delete the libraries then update WITHOUT externals? |
| 22:10.27 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: Cryect also answered your question indirectly |
| 22:10.31 | Chompers | use wowace updater, click without externals |
| 22:10.49 | voln | will that remove the libraries from the existing addons? |
| 22:10.51 | Chompers | +enable delete folder before extraction |
| 22:10.54 | MikkTard | ^ |
| 22:10.56 | Cryect | Gagorian: The answer is for nonequal level mobs we don't fully know else than its not 0.04% and its not what some EU CM said |
| 22:11.03 | binder | are the EU realms having trouble logging in? |
| 22:11.07 | voln | alright going to give it a shot, thanks |
| 22:11.15 | Cryect | its something inbetween |
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| 22:11.48 | Cryect | what we do know is weapon rating is really good for tanks :-p |
| 22:11.59 | bigzero | hey, is there a guide/tutorial on making fubar plugins? |
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| 22:12.39 | Gagorian | Cryect: Well, I'll ignore it for now then |
| 22:13.00 | Undine | binder: i just logged in fine |
| 22:13.00 | Gagorian | To hit can only be used to counter the base chance to miss (5% for one-hand users without any off-hand weapon, 9% for two-handers and 24% for dualwielders) |
| 22:13.03 | Gagorian | is this correct? |
| 22:13.03 | Cryect | it seems to be a good stat for boss mobs for rogues & druids |
| 22:13.08 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: so, while you're here... why does Recount show all my data divided between me and my phantom pet (50/50)? I'm a rogue ^^ (also, damage done changed to all teal, instead of class colored? oO :D) |
| 22:13.16 | Gagorian | Well, the percentages that is |
| 22:13.17 | Cryect | uh those numbers are wrong |
| 22:13.24 | Gagorian | Gief correct ones |
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| 22:13.42 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: I heard about that bug |
| 22:13.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Cryect: why no fubar plugin for Recount? |
| 22:13.56 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: And not sure whats causing it and can't get in to try to figure it out |
| 22:14.03 | Gnarfoz | depends on what they are supposed to represent. those are the mali you get from <weapon type> |
| 22:14.12 | Arrowmaster | my rogue friend tested it and weapon skill is just about useless now |
| 22:14.13 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: I'll try killing SV's :) |
| 22:14.17 | Cryect | ZealotOnAStick: I don't use fubar :-p so its been kinda a low priority |
| 22:14.25 | sbu | <3 <3 wow web stats :o |
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| 22:15.28 | RogueShadow | did you warn that changes made to files in the addon folders would be erased? |
| 22:15.42 | Cryect | The number is 8.6% not 5% or 9% :-p and thats for Boss mobs w/ white attacks and its 5.6% for specials |
| 22:16.02 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 22:16.08 | Gnarfoz | "that's for boss mobs" |
| 22:16.44 | Gagorian | I want the base chance to miss first |
| 22:16.52 | Gnarfoz | if you equip a second weapon, you incur 24% miss chance. your miss chance versus a +3 level mob (Read: boss) is different, of course |
| 22:16.53 | Gagorian | then I'll calculate from there |
| 22:17.02 | Cryect | oh 5% with no level difference and assuming maxed Weapon Skill |
| 22:17.06 | Gnarfoz | (for white autoattacks with both weapons) |
| 22:17.20 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: What about specials? |
| 22:17.25 | Gagorian | 5%? |
| 22:17.40 | Gnarfoz | 5% it is, last I heard ^^ |
| 22:17.56 | Gagorian | for one and two handers? |
| 22:17.58 | Chompers | this is probably really stupid, but what does DrDamage actually do? |
| 22:17.59 | Cryect | Yeah |
| 22:18.13 | Gnarfoz | for dw also, specials are the same for everyone |
| 22:18.14 | Cryect | yellow attacks are always treated as 5% for equal lelvel |
| 22:18.16 | Chompers | i've never really looked at theorycrafting at all, so i don't know what involved |
| 22:18.20 | Gagorian | Chompers: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DrDamage |
| 22:18.37 | Gagorian | check screenshot at bottom for example |
| 22:18.46 | Chompers | an information rich wiki, oh my! |
| 22:19.24 | Chompers | i want it |
| 22:19.28 | Chompers | i want it NOOOOW |
| 22:20.26 | Gagorian | It only works decent for casters atm, started melee yesterday |
| 22:21.09 | Cryect | Gagorian: Differences in Defense & Weapon Skill doesn't seem to work linearly for any extreme level difference btw |
| 22:21.16 | Gagorian | kek :f |
| 22:21.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Gagorian: is there some way I've missed to get DrDamage to display information on the buttons/tooltips for macros with #show and #showtooltip ? |
| 22:21.27 | Cryect | It behaves weirdly and no one has bothered to catergorize how exactly |
| 22:21.40 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: That should work. #showtooltip spell name |
| 22:21.59 | Gagorian | So, how does it approximately scale for a few levels lower? |
| 22:22.01 | ZealotOnAStick | well, it isn't for me. |
| 22:22.17 | Gagorian | What tooltip does it display? |
| 22:22.25 | Gagorian | and what AB addon |
| 22:22.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Bongos2, not in game this moment, gimme a bit and I cna tell you. |
| 22:22.49 | Cryect | we don't know that either but for equal level its 0.04% for everything |
| 22:23.01 | Cryect | just something funny happens for nonequal levels |
| 22:23.20 | Cryect | And its not really easy data to gather |
| 22:25.13 | Gandharva | Kemayo: after update and /rl -> FuBar_QuestsFu-r42901\Details\Details.lua:377: attempt to index global 'escapeDetector' (a nil value) ^^ |
| 22:25.46 | Gagorian | Cryect: Just got to love blizzard theorycraft, so random sometimes |
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| 22:26.32 | Cryect | Gagorian: Yeah |
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| 22:29.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Eh, its not random really. I mean, it's quite likely extremely deterministic, but very black box to us :P |
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| 22:31.07 | Funkeh` | shieldb: ping |
| 22:31.25 | ravagernl | gagorian: I get 2200 damage per mana for my aimed shot, that can't be right can it :o |
| 22:32.21 | NeoTron | man that's some mana efficiency ;-) |
| 22:33.57 | Gagorian | ravagernl: I haven't even loaded up hunter module ;) |
| 22:34.05 | Gagorian | Basically.. it's set to default cost of 1 |
| 22:34.06 | ravagernl | lol that must be it |
| 22:34.38 | Gagorian | so it's going to be totally f'd |
| 22:34.57 | Cryect | haha |
| 22:35.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah i did the hunter module ahead of time, i dont think he ever added stuff for determining mana cost to the melee module like the caster module has |
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| 22:35.56 | Gagorian | I'll use static values for rogues/warriors at least |
| 22:36.02 | Gagorian | (and are using atm) |
| 22:36.14 | Gagorian | if it can't find the value it's 1, which is everything in huntard module |
| 22:36.47 | Gagorian | Might have to do tooltip scans for hunter though |
| 22:36.48 | Arrowmaster | why not scan like the caster stuff does? |
| 22:37.05 | Gagorian | Because it's more efficient to have static ones |
| 22:37.05 | NeoTron | Gagorian: does DrDamage take into account trinket use and set bonus use/procs at all? |
| 22:37.11 | ravagernl | Hunters got mana.. SO they are essentially casters |
| 22:37.21 | Gagorian | NeoTron: When it's activated |
| 22:37.29 | Gagorian | But over time, no |
| 22:37.31 | NeoTron | ok |
| 22:37.32 | Gagorian | Too much work |
| 22:37.37 | NeoTron | would be a nice addon to have |
| 22:37.48 | NeoTron | to approximate the benefit of procs |
| 22:37.53 | Gagorian | You can do it already |
| 22:37.55 | NeoTron | maybe not in drdamage |
| 22:38.07 | Gagorian | If let's say a trinket is on average +35 damage |
| 22:38.10 | Gagorian | just add it manually in |
| 22:38.15 | Gagorian | from the options |
| 22:38.22 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42904 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Details/Details.lua: |
| 22:38.22 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 22:38.22 | CIA-22 | -Details: Declare escapeDetector local slightly higher up. |
| 22:38.26 | NeoTron | true |
| 22:38.39 | Kemayo | Gagorian: Another probable fix! |
| 22:38.41 | NeoTron | was mostly thinking it'd be nice to mouse over two trinkets to see which one is actually best |
| 22:38.47 | NeoTron | I have a lot of trinkets :P |
| 22:38.58 | Gagorian | Well, a module could do that |
| 22:39.09 | Gagorian | I allow any 3rd party addon to pass a modifier table to calculations |
| 22:39.15 | Gagorian | it could pass item values |
| 22:39.19 | Gagorian | then get results for each |
| 22:39.20 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 22:39.27 | Gagorian | But I'm not going to do it :P |
| 22:39.36 | Gagorian | Support is in though |
| 22:40.21 | Gagorian | I'll add mana cost.. sec |
| 22:40.28 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: so i had an idea for the melee/ranged stuff, i noticed you took the %age modifier from the returns and what looked like tried to remove it from the values |
| 22:41.10 | Arrowmaster | is that added in later to the final calcuation? |
| 22:42.20 | Gandharva | Antiarc: Did you find a solution to the Vashij Taunt problem yet? |
| 22:42.28 | CIA-22 | 03feithar * r42905 10PawnMgr/ (9 files): |
| 22:42.28 | CIA-22 | PawnMgr: initial commit |
| 22:42.28 | CIA-22 | - This is an extension for the Pawn addon that allows editing of Pawn values in game, as well as sharing sets between characters and other users, and the ability to calculate Pawn scales in game. |
| 22:42.54 | sbu | pawn? :o |
| 22:45.07 | Kalman| | Pawn = adds a line to your tooltip with a scaled calculation of total statvalue of an item. |
| 22:45.25 | Kalman| | So you can say "AP = 1 point, Sta = 0.1, Agi = 1.5, ..." and it'll total up an item's value and say "Value = X" |
| 22:46.58 | NightHawkAtWork | hmm, that looks interesting |
| 22:47.04 | NightHawkAtWork | (PawnMgr, that is) |
| 22:47.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Although, what's with the abbr.? Do we rlly. need to abbr. evrthng.? |
| 22:48.07 | NeoTron | at least it's not PwnMgr |
| 22:48.16 | NightHawkAtWork | sadly, true. |
| 22:48.54 | Chompers | ys. w. d. |
| 22:49.29 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: The bug I thought was a bug may not have been a bug |
| 22:50.35 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: so for some reason that sentence brought my mind to The Princess Bride |
| 22:50.48 | NeoTron | although I can't explain why |
| 22:50.56 | Antiarc|Work | You keep finding that bug. I do not think it breaks what you think it breaks. |
| 22:51.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:51.12 | durcyn | Inconceivable! |
| 22:51.39 | kergoth | i wonder if purl has princess bride quotes |
| 22:51.45 | kergoth | ~emulate inigo |
| 22:51.51 | kergoth | ~inigo |
| 22:51.51 | purl | Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die. |
| 22:51.55 | kergoth | yay |
| 22:51.56 | Antiarc|Work | *bows down* |
| 22:53.49 | ZealotOnAStick | ~emulate sicilian |
| 22:54.02 | NeoTron | heh |
| 22:54.30 | Antiarc|Work | http://bash.org/?777054 |
| 22:56.10 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe |
| 22:57.00 | xyu | Anyone know the best way to type the little special char's found in wow. the dots above the y etc. how do i find out the key combo for each one? |
| 22:57.09 | xyu | I've tried character map but i can't seem to find the right font. |
| 22:58.09 | ZealotOnAStick | ~emulate sicilian |
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| 22:59.49 | NightHawkAtWork | xyu: if you're in enUS, I don't think [^a-z] characters are valid anymore. Otherwise, google windows alt key codes or something |
| 23:00.24 | xyu | They're still valid, my friend just x'fered 4 char's all w/ the same name but different keycodes above his vowels |
| 23:00.35 | xyu | so he has like 4 chars the same name and i can't send him mail :P |
| 23:00.52 | Kalman| | They're valid, but they can be reported and a name change forced on you for it. |
| 23:00.57 | xyu | yeah |
| 23:01.05 | Thrae | xyu: %w == all alphanumeric, %a == all letters, %d == all digits, %l == all lowercase |
| 23:01.17 | xyu | i just need to know the keycodes to send him some mail :P |
| 23:01.26 | xyu | what? i don't really understand what you just said :P |
| 23:01.40 | Thrae | xyu: You're talking about Lua pattern matching, right? |
| 23:01.40 | NightHawkAtWork | google windows alt key codes. |
| 23:01.46 | NightHawkAtWork | or similar. |
| 23:02.23 | xyu | no, i'm talking about his Character name is sinister but with weird alternate letter i's |
| 23:02.38 | xyu | key codes work but they change per font. what is wow's font? |
| 23:03.01 | Thrae | xyu: Look for an addon called "CharacterMap", see it works in 2.0 (might need to change the TOC) |
| 23:03.03 | xyu | y |
| 23:03.08 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Yeah |
| 23:03.09 | Thrae | "CharacterMap" or "CharMap" or something |
| 23:03.10 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.flickr.com/photos/10998060@N00/727663041/ :O |
| 23:03.20 | NightHawkAtWork | uh.... |
| 23:03.20 | Dotted | Kaelten you here? |
| 23:03.23 | NightHawkAtWork | key codes shouldn't change per font |
| 23:03.27 | NightHawkAtWork | if they do, the font is seriously fucked up. |
| 23:03.29 | xyu | Thrae: i tried, the addon says "Incompatable" |
| 23:03.37 | xyu | and is redded out |
| 23:03.38 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 23:03.38 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 23:03.40 | Thrae | xyu: Uhh, if you didn't realize it by the name, it lists all the special characters and puts them into the edit box for you |
| 23:03.41 | NeoTron | gah |
| 23:03.52 | Thrae | xyu: Just change the TOC to 210000 |
| 23:03.52 | xyu | Thrae: if the addon worked yeah that'd be great :) |
| 23:03.55 | xyu | oh |
| 23:03.59 | xyu | ok i'll try |
| 23:04.06 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host81-151-79-44.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:04.08 | Gagorian | Thrae: Fail |
| 23:04.09 | Gagorian | ~toc |
| 23:04.09 | purl | the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100 |
| 23:04.40 | Thrae | Garoun: 210000 should definately make it "compatible", I just gave a random number greater then 20000 |
| 23:04.51 | Thrae | Whoops |
| 23:05.01 | Thrae | s/Garouon/Gagorian/ |
| 23:05.12 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42906 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 23:05.12 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:05.12 | CIA-22 | -Spell : Updated koKR |
| 23:05.14 | NightHawkAtWork | xyu: be less stupid :P http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html |
| 23:05.23 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 23:05.25 | xyu | ## Interface: 20100 |
| 23:05.25 | xyu | ## |
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| 23:05.26 | xyu | right? |
| 23:05.28 | Dotted | Thrae not if 210000 uses like Lua 7.5 or whatever :P |
| 23:05.30 | xyu | still says incompatable :( |
| 23:05.53 | Thrae | Dotted: Haha. No, it doesn't work that way ;) |
| 23:05.58 | xyu | ## Interface: 20100 |
| 23:05.58 | xyu | ## Title: Character Map |
| 23:05.58 | xyu | ## Notes: Allows you to insert special characters into chatboxes. |
| 23:05.58 | xyu | ## SavedVariables: CharMapAutoPopup |
| 23:05.58 | xyu | CharMap.xml |
| 23:06.00 | xyu | oops sorry |
| 23:06.08 | xyu | don't know why that multilined :D |
| 23:06.17 | *** join/#wowace zwiep (n=zwiep@d54C35283.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:06.55 | Dotted | xyu normally copied multiline text gets pasted as multiline text ;) |
| 23:07.03 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r42907 10Proximo/ (Proximo.lua localization-enUS.lua nameplates.lua options.lua): |
| 23:07.03 | CIA-22 | Proximo: |
| 23:07.03 | CIA-22 | - Added additional code to stop "friends" from showing |
| 23:07.03 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up Syncs and changed how/when the sync occurs |
| 23:07.03 | CIA-22 | - Added option to turn off syncs |
| 23:07.04 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up events |
| 23:07.08 | xyu | it wasn't multilined ~_^ |
| 23:07.16 | NightHawkAtWork | lol.. http://bash.org/?48302 |
| 23:07.38 | Dotted | xyu it was probably 'linux' multilined ;) |
| 23:08.02 | xyu | oh, beyond my control! |
| 23:08.22 | NightHawkAtWork | not really. |
| 23:08.23 | xyu | what else could make this incompatable? |
| 23:08.38 | xyu | oh well i'll just give it up for now and tell my friend to change his damn name |
| 23:08.52 | NightHawkAtWork | or you could learn to use alt key codes like everyone else. |
| 23:08.53 | Kaelten | Dotted: hi |
| 23:08.56 | Dotted | assuming you are viewing in notepad or any other editor that doesnt support lf linebreaks |
| 23:10.56 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42908 10DrDamage/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:10.56 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 23:10.56 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a few issues caused by find and replace all with regex on (bad idea) |
| 23:10.56 | CIA-22 | - Should scan mana from tooltip for huntar actions |
| 23:10.56 | Dotted | Kaelten pm |
| 23:11.44 | binder | antiarc |
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| 23:11.58 | binder | what values do you have for shield slam threat vs revenge threat? |
| 23:12.28 | binder | as in if a 1000 damage shield slam does 1500 threat, how much threat is created by say a 500 revenge |
| 23:12.29 | Gagorian | Why don't you check in the module file yourself? |
| 23:13.03 | Gagorian | It's pretty simple, besides I doubt Antiarc remembers them either without checking :p |
| 23:15.21 | Kaelten | woot, website had twenty visits from Mongolia! |
| 23:16.18 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42909 10Proximo/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 23:16.18 | CIA-22 | Proximo : |
| 23:16.18 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.20 | NightHawkAtWork | gorram mongorians! |
| 23:16.34 | Kaelten | ohhh, 7 visits from greenland! |
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| 23:19.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin_] by ChanServ |
| 23:19.06 | bigzero | anyone know a good blp2 to tga converter |
| 23:19.07 | bigzero | ? |
| 23:19.42 | NightHawkAtWork | google might |
| 23:21.01 | bigzero | trying it, but a lot of dead links and blp (not blp2 ones) |
| 23:22.51 | durcyn | google blp2tga |
| 23:24.45 | bigzero | the one on the chinese website? |
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| 23:25.51 | Sole | is there a combo point addon from the Ace2 community? |
| 23:26.07 | Sole | I cant seem to find a decent one on any of the major websites |
| 23:26.08 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42910 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua): Recount - Fixes an issue with players being misclassified as pets |
| 23:27.17 | durcyn | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/1436/ |
| 23:27.31 | *** join/#wowace Fin (n=Fin@migi.instinct.org) |
| 23:27.57 | Fin | guten tag |
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| 23:29.51 | Antiarc|Work | Revenge is 201 threat + damage |
| 23:30.11 | Antiarc|Work | So you'd have ~700 threat * 1.495 = 1046.5 threat |
| 23:30.25 | Sharalynn | hi |
| 23:30.53 | *** part/#wowace Sharalynn (n=sharalyn@mail.ninestar.com) |
| 23:31.15 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: gimme your Revenge! |
| 23:31.26 | Gandharva | Mine does no DMG :( |
| 23:31.43 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: May I PM for some melee theorycraft questions? |
| 23:31.47 | Antiarc|Work | Sure |
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| 23:32.47 | Gandharva | hallo fin |
| 23:33.10 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42911 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes an issue where players were being set pets of themselves |
| 23:33.23 | charon | any particular reason why battlegroundfu does not have a menu option to leave the BG, and fails to leave BG queues during combat? |
| 23:33.25 | NightHawkAtWork | oh gods.. my company has myspace pages. I feel dirty. |
| 23:34.09 | Fin | woo,hello Gandharva |
| 23:34.13 | Fin | +' ' |
| 23:34.27 | charon | (oh god. my interface is better than ever thanks to ACE and i'm already starting to make a fuss about minor things) |
| 23:35.01 | Fin | as a pissed fart |
| 23:35.43 | Fin | ACE is not an acronym! |
| 23:35.50 | Fin | titter |
| 23:36.09 | kebinusan | charon: hmm come to think of it thats the reason I dont use battlegroundfu atm |
| 23:36.36 | Gandharva | ACE is some juice you can buy at Lidl. ACE-Saft |
| 23:38.03 | charon | ignore what i said about making a fuss about minor things, i feel perfectly normal, thanks |
| 23:38.34 | dodgizzla | ~ace |
| 23:38.35 | purl | i guess ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 23:38.41 | Gagorian | Kalman|: ping |
| 23:38.50 | dodgizzla | hmmm.. "no, Ace is an acronym" :P |
| 23:38.50 | Wobin_ | Sole: Gonffbar =P |
| 23:39.17 | Kalman| | Gagorian: Pong. |
| 23:39.21 | Fin | you know, I was telling my friend today I have a short attentio |
| 23:39.26 | Gandharva | ~ACE |
| 23:39.26 | purl | it has been said that ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 23:39.30 | Sole | Wobin_: Gonffbar is an energy watcher as far as I remember |
| 23:39.39 | Wobin_ | It does combo points too |
| 23:39.41 | Wobin_ | vertically |
| 23:39.45 | Sole | text or visual? |
| 23:39.47 | Gandharva | purl is wrong here ^^ |
| 23:39.48 | Wobin_ | visual |
| 23:40.03 | Sole | aite aite |
| 23:40.18 | Wobin_ | energy ticks horizontally, combo points vertically |
| 23:40.26 | Sole | now I need an action bar addon |
| 23:40.26 | Wobin_ | or vice versa |
| 23:40.37 | Sole | BT3 is too much =\ |
| 23:40.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Sole: bongos |
| 23:40.53 | Sole | last time I tried bongos it was WEIRD |
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| 23:41.07 | Sole | but ok |
| 23:41.15 | Fin | plates |
| 23:41.20 | Fin | has anyone considered plates? |
| 23:41.20 | Sole | plates? |
| 23:41.29 | Fin | plates are a very undertalkedabout subject |
| 23:41.35 | NightHawkAtWork | I like plates |
| 23:41.40 | Fin | my girlfriend could tell you a lot about plates |
| 23:41.43 | NightHawkAtWork | they keep my food from burning my groin |
| 23:41.44 | Fin | plates and cups |
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| 23:44.26 | charon | kebinusan: looks like the combat issue is the api's fault, but leaving an ongoing bg should be possible |
| 23:44.52 | Jagobah | I like bongos |
| 23:44.55 | charon | gn8 |
| 23:44.56 | Jagobah | but I use BT3 :( |
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| 23:49.19 | Sole | wow, so this guy dopie wrote an arena info addon and he uses info which he extracts from the armory and then users have to download their battlegroup file |
| 23:49.20 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 23:49.36 | Sole | the actual info file scares me |
| 23:49.48 | Trancer | so you can see what you are fighting in the arena? |
| 23:49.59 | Sole | yeah kinda like what I already did with nymbia |
| 23:50.11 | Trancer | that's really sad >< |
| 23:50.53 | Sole | except instead of using a 1 line and compressing data about 1 person down, he creates a table for every stat for every person |
| 23:51.13 | Chompers | does that get loaded into memory? |
| 23:51.26 | Chompers | a table for EVERY player :O |
| 23:51.27 | Sole | yes |
| 23:51.32 | Sole | well |
| 23:51.42 | Sole | you choose your battlegroup and the rating bracket |
| 23:51.53 | Sole | I chose my BG, rating 1800-2300 |
| 23:52.04 | Sole | made a 40k line file |
| 23:54.22 | Trancer | really.. people are just.. GAH |
| 23:54.30 | Trancer | the whole fun of arena is the element of surprise |
| 23:54.37 | Trancer | and fast adapting |
| 23:54.50 | Chompers | or getting epics |
| 23:55.02 | Coruss | long live the epicz |
| 23:56.00 | Sole | Trancer: it only pulls info after you see your opponent |
| 23:56.23 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.33 | Sole | Trancer: and the only info we really show is talent distribution #/#/# and their arena rating |
| 23:56.38 | Sole | its not exactly game breaking |
| 23:57.48 | Coruss | cya tomorrow folks, end of anther workday |
| 23:57.50 | Trancer | I still think it's hackerish :x |
| 23:57.52 | Trancer | later |
| 23:58.26 | Sole | to each his own I guess |
| 23:59.05 | Sole | just so you know, we cant see who we're fighting until one of the team mates either targets him or puts the mouse over him |
| 23:59.43 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42912 10beql/localization-de.lua: beql: - Added english placeholder strings to german translation |
