IRC log for #wowace on 20070704

00:00.01Shirikor just the d3d text
00:00.15Mikk#api IsShiftKeyDown
00:00.17ThraeBotMikk: shiftDown = IsShiftKeyDown();
00:00.22yasuoyaeah 3d test
00:00.24hypetechdoes +hit help trap resists for hunters?
00:00.25Mikk#api IsAltKeyDown
00:00.26ThraeBotCould not find an example.
00:00.31yasuoif u mean the name above one's head
00:00.37MikkThrae: Fix. They're on the same page :>
00:00.49Shirikit's a cvar
00:01.01ShirikI can't look it up on dialup easily, but you can easily find it on wowwiki
00:01.15ShirikSetCVar() it to 1
00:01.20ThraeMikk: It checks if API_IsAltKeyDown exists
00:01.24Funkeh`lol
00:01.27Schmidt_Thrae: You might consider inserting a link to the armory so you can just doubleclick the link (or copy/paste, whatever) to look at the spec and such.
00:01.32mikmai take that as a no :D
00:01.33Funkeh`visc takes a _while_ when you don't have frost damage
00:01.37mikmawell back to QuestFu
00:01.45MikkThrae: it exists
00:01.52Thrae#api IsAltKeyDown
00:01.58ThraeBotCould not find an example.
00:02.00MikkGo look at the page
00:02.07CIA-2203kemayo * r42673 10PartyToGo/ (. Core.lua lib/):
00:02.07CIA-22PartyToGo:
00:02.07CIA-22-Set up externals and keywords.
00:02.07MikkIt has examples for all three functions on the same page
00:02.12mikmaKemayo: moo :P
00:02.21Kemayomikma: It's good to have you back. :D
00:02.50MikkSole: what name did you end up picking?
00:02.54mikmaKemayo: i've been using beql for some time, but the asshole has made the questwatcher to "work" through the bags lol
00:02.57sbu#char eu khaz'goroth smb
00:02.59sbu*testing*
00:03.04KemayoFor my part, I've never even heard of beql.
00:03.05ThraeBotsbu: Smb, Level 70 Priest (23/38/0). 7581 HP; 9705 Mana; 437 Sta; 491 Int; 381 Spi; 2876 Armour; 187 mp5; 4.9% dodge; 98 +spell dmg; 1486 +heal.
00:03.21ThraeMikk: Well you can't blame me they're not made all to the same standard ;)
00:03.24Mikk#char eu bloodhoof miklia
00:03.27Schmidt_Mikk: I haven't worked on my little addon for a long time, and I might just not work on it ever again.
00:03.29ThraeBotMikk: Miklia, Level 70 Druid (0/47/14). 7804 HP; 4595 Mana; 266 Str; 422 Sta; 405 Agi; 167 Int; 136 Spi; 3040 Armour; 17 mp5; +18 defense; 27.74% dodge; 914 AP; 797 RAP.
00:03.36mikmaKemayo: well it's in acesvn too
00:03.43Schmidt_#char us lightninghoof dezaren
00:03.46ThraeBotSchmidt_: Dezaren, Level 40 Druid (31/0/0). 1583 HP; 3034 Mana; 108 Sta; 164 Int; 169 Spi; 2628 Armour; 5.68% dodge; 59 +spell dmg/heal; +10% nature resist.
00:03.53Anmoch_#char eu antonidas anmoch
00:03.55Schmidt_moonkin, baby!
00:03.56ThraeBotAnmoch_: Anmoch, Level 70 Druid (1/46/14). 8834 HP; 5525 Mana; 365 Str; 540 Sta; 382 Agi; 229 Int; 146 Spi; 4099 Armour; 25.1% dodge; 1156 AP; 818 RAP; 40 +heal.
00:04.24ThraeOh yeah
00:04.28*** join/#wowace karpadnik (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-ed8f9f19688e0832)
00:04.28MikkAnmoch_: nerf j00
00:04.35Anmoch_Mikk: gief your agi
00:04.37Kirkburnhttp://www.trekp.com/posters/gw097-shenanigans.jpg
00:04.52liquiem#char eu destromath Daemona
00:04.53Schmidt_lol we killed ThraeBot
00:04.53*** join/#wowace ThraeBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
00:05.00liquiemmeh :/
00:05.01ThraeForgot this version of the bot wasn't parsing crit % correctly
00:05.09ThraeForgot to reload it
00:05.09Anmoch_seriously though, it's just kara gear, of course it's been some effort but it's not like i can be proud of it
00:05.20Thrae#char eu antonidas anmoch
00:05.30ThraeBotThrae: Anmoch, Level 70 Druid (1/46/14). 8834 HP; 5525 Mana; 365 Str; 540 Sta; 382 Agi; 229 Int; 146 Spi; 4099 Armour; 25.1% dodge; 1156 AP; 818 RAP; +21.7% melee crit; 40 +heal.
00:05.33Kemayomikma: It has inconsistent indentation in its source, and I hereby determine it to be garbage. :P
00:05.38flexom#char eu silvermoon tinyboom
00:05.41ThraeBotflexom: Tinyboom, Level 70 Mage (40/0/21). 6643 HP; 9026 Mana; 343 Sta; 471 Int; 202 Spi; 1227 Armour; 5.38% dodge; +6.18% spell hit; +278 spell crit rating; 664 +spell dmg/heal; +351 frost dmg (1015); +117 arcane dmg (781); +183 shadow dmg (847); +117 fire dmg (781); +10% arcane resist.
00:05.43RogueShadow#char us Azshara Xelis
00:05.46ThraeBotRogueShadow: Xelis, Level 38 Rogue (5/24/0). 1850 HP; 78 Str; 139 Sta; 197 Agi; 1090 Armour; 28.16% dodge; +16.5% melee crit.
00:05.51mikmaKemayo: ok!
00:05.54KemayoI'm very shallow.
00:06.12liquiem#char eu frostwolf ramba
00:06.15ThraeBotliquiem: Ramba, Level 70 Hunter (0/44/17). 12857 HP; 5848 Mana; 815 Sta; 536 Agi; 183 Int; 6308 Armour; 8 mp5; 15.99% dodge; +282 resilience; 1301 AP; 1371 RAP; +31.18% ranged crit.
00:06.31mikmaand nQuestlog haven't been updated in a long long time
00:06.38liquiem#char eu frostwolf uzglug
00:06.40ThraeBotliquiem: Uzglug, Level 70 Hunter (41/20/0). 8623 HP; 6973 Mana; 515 Sta; 668 Agi; 258 Int; 6836 Armour; 31 mp5; 21.27% dodge; 1959 AP; 1896 RAP; +27.46% ranged crit.
00:06.48liquiempve!
00:07.01liquiemnice script btw
00:07.08KemayoYeah, neuron vanished -- I saw someone say that his computer died.
00:07.22durcynhrm, that doesn't show race?
00:07.24ThraeBot is based on FoxBot from foxlit, which is based on KasoBot
00:07.30Shirikyuck
00:07.36Shirik41/20?
00:07.53Kirkburnhttp://www.trekp.com/posters/gw141-discrimination.jpg
00:08.05liquiemdeep bm Shirik, what else? ;)
00:08.20Schmidt_lol Kirkburn
00:08.22Shirikbm is way overhyped
00:08.44KirkburnSchmidt! :D
00:09.10Schmidt_:D
00:09.23Shirik:D
00:09.23Shirik?
00:09.23KirkburnYou're on the wrong channel ;)
00:09.31Schmidt_How do you figure that?
00:09.31Kirkburn(and website, heh)
00:09.36Schmidt_lol
00:09.43Schmidt_wowace > wowwiki lol
00:09.52Kirkburn=(
00:09.59Schmidt_besides, it's changed so much i don't know anyone there
00:10.03Shirikowned.
00:10.22liquiemThrae, does it work in query too?
00:10.52*** join/#wowace ThraeBot (n=ThraeBot@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
00:11.28KirkburnAww, well I have to give you that
00:11.42Thraeliquiem: Yes, just exclude the #
00:11.50KirkburnBut the people around now are still awesome :P
00:12.01ThraeThraeBot now shows Race for the Racists
00:12.05Kirkburn(Also known as my minions)
00:12.12liquiemnow with race
00:12.20SchmidtOh, and you know wowwiki could benefit from a forum like on wowace.
00:12.28CIA-2203jncl * r42674 10Skinner/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
00:12.28CIA-22Skinner: Updated ArkInventory, EnhTooltip, SpamSentry, cgCrafty skins
00:12.28CIA-22- Skin errors are now trapped and displayed in Chat
00:12.34SchmidtI never thought about it before, but now I see that it is pretty good.
00:12.58KirkburnWikia does have a wiki plugin for forums
00:13.12liquiemThrae: for resistance, thats not percent
00:13.15SchmidtBut wowwiki is on a private server, right?
00:13.16KirkburnI'll inquire about it (I'm working for Wikia atm)
00:13.25Schmidtoooo o.O
00:13.25liquiemlike +10% arcane resist .. cut off the %
00:13.29KirkburnOh, you really are out of the loop :O
00:13.36Schmidtyeah I guess
00:13.37KirkburnWikia bought WoWWiki
00:13.43Schmidto rly
00:13.50Kirkburnya rly
00:13.53Schmidtno wai
00:14.07Kirkburnheh
00:14.16CIA-2203cryect * r42675 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Fixes receiving of sync messages >_>
00:14.18KirkburnThe wiki has done well out of it, no more server problems :)
00:14.42Thraeliquiem: Resistances aren't done in a percent?
00:15.00Schmidtno they're not
00:15.09KirkburnCome visit us on the #wowwiki channel one evening (I think it's gone quiet now) ... I'm off to bed
00:15.21liquiemThrae: nope, they are flat values that translate into percent depending on level etc
00:15.48liquiembut you gain absolut values +10 for racials for example
00:15.48KirkburnNo more Trekkie motivational posters today :P
00:15.57ThraeOh, also
00:16.01Thrae#last thrae
00:16.20Thrae#last us maelstrom thrae
00:16.22ThraeBotThrae: Thrae's last login date is listed as March 28, 2007 on the Armory.
00:16.30KirkburnWell maybe one - http://www.trekp.com/posters/gw907-daredevil.jpg
00:16.51*** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-178-211-157.dsl.pipex.com)
00:17.25liquiemthis channel needs a wiki somehow, all commands etc :p
00:17.39Thrae#api SendChatMessage
00:17.43liquiemor some help file
00:17.43ThraeBotThrae: SendChatMessage("msg",[ "chatType",[ "language",[ "channel"]]]);
00:18.16Schmidtlater, guys. i gotta tell my guild that my guildie can't make kara
00:18.33ShirikThrae: did that come from wowwiki?
00:18.39ThraeShirik: Yep
00:18.41ShirikIn either case, it's incorrect
00:18.53Shirikwell that should be fixed then :/
00:18.54ThraeThen wowwiki is incorrect ;)
00:19.02Shirikya
00:19.05*** join/#wowace Kinkx^ (i=bleh@221.84-48-78.nextgentel.com)
00:19.10Shirikthat's what I mean
00:20.22RogueShadow#last us azshara Xelis
00:20.25ThraeBotRogueShadow: Xelis's last login date is listed as July 3, 2007 on the Armory.
00:20.31RogueShadowic
00:20.43Anmoch_hmm
00:20.49Anmoch_#last eu antonidas sebsen
00:20.52ThraeBotAnmoch_: Sebsen's last login date is listed as 24 June 2007 on the Armory.
00:21.19KirkburnFix teh wiki plz, Shirik =)
00:21.20[Liquidor]If Addon A is LoadOnDemand and Addon B has Addon A as a dependency. Does Addon B not load before Addon A is loaded or does Addon B force Addon A to load OR.... does Addon B malfunction till Addon A is loaded?
00:21.37ShirikKirkburn: I'm on dialup ><
00:21.43Shirikhave any idea how much graphics is on wowwiki?
00:21.47KirkburnNow let's call Addon B, A and Addon A, B and see what happens.
00:21.54KirkburnShirik, v little
00:22.48CIA-2203nekromant * r42676 10beql/beql.toc: beql: - Added spanish title
00:23.03RogueShadow#help
00:23.28RogueShadow#char us Azshara Xelim
00:23.32ThraeBotRogueShadow: Xelim, Level 22 Blood Elf Hunter (13/0/0). 808 HP; 805 Mana; 75 Sta; 86 Agi; 38 Int; 39 Spi; 651 Armour; 6.63% dodge; +6.82% ranged crit.
00:23.56RogueShadow82% ranged crit?
00:24.05Thrae6.82%
00:24.10ThraeLearn to read :D
00:24.16[Liquidor]Thrae, language used?
00:24.16CryectAntiarc: Threat is brokne on Void Reaver completely
00:24.23RogueShadownothing to do with it thrae
00:24.25Thrae[Liquidor]: Lua, of course
00:24.27RogueShadowMy client cut it off
00:24.38KirkburnSilly client, sue him.
00:24.40ThraeRogueShadow: Your client sucks
00:24.42[Liquidor]Thrae, okay. Made an Armory bot myself but in PHP.
00:24.44RogueShadowyes it does
00:24.49RogueShadowbut it suites what I need it to do
00:24.51KirkburnHe sucks and cut it off? Wow ....
00:25.18Thrae[Liquidor]: You made an IRC bot in PHP? That's an...interesting use of PHP
00:25.41*** join/#wowace Zicon (i=zicon@rosetta.nwo.no)
00:25.44Shirik#api SendChatMessage
00:25.46ThraeBotShirik: SendChatMessage("msg",[ "chatType",[ "language", ] [ "channel"]]);
00:25.56CryectAntiarc: And by broken I mean knockaway never did anything to threat the entire time
00:26.02Shiriker, that's not right either
00:26.03Shirikbah
00:26.03CIA-2203adirelle * r42677 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua buffs/items.lua locale-frFR.lua):
00:26.03CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
00:26.03CIA-22- weapon buffs seems to work,
00:26.03CIA-22- using buffing item seems to work,
00:26.03CIA-22- removed several debug statments.
00:26.04[Liquidor]Thrae, Well I just converted my Armory Website into an IRC bot
00:26.16phyber#char eu Bloodhoof Phyber
00:26.19ThraeBotphyber: Phyber, Level 70 Human Warlock (7/13/41). 11900 HP; 10240 Mana; 844 Sta; 527 Int; 216 Spi; 1788 Armour; 5.07% dodge; +8.09% spell hit; +106 spell crit rating; 846 +spell dmg; 716 +heal; +179 frost dmg (1025); +179 shadow dmg (1025); +10% fire resist.
00:26.41Adirelle#char eu Ner'Zhul Adirelle
00:26.45phybercool
00:26.47ThraeBotAdirelle: Adirelle, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (20/41/0). 7327 HP; 6868 Mana; 344 Sta; 436 Agi; 251 Int; 4958 Armour; 94 mp5; 12.99% dodge; 1501 AP; 1718 RAP; +18.85% ranged crit.
00:26.56[Liquidor]Does it have flood control?
00:27.02kaiden^#char us Zul'jin Denarik
00:27.06ThraeBotkaiden^: Denarik, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (43/13/5). 6137 HP; 8643 Mana; 132 Str; 294 Sta; 398 Int; 124 Spi; 8676 Armour; 56 mp5; +29 defense; 4.25% dodge; 5.44% block; +3.77% melee crit; 290 +spell dmg; 1015 +heal.
00:28.04[Liquidor]Does Lua have any features for parsing xml?
00:28.17hypetechcan I make a macro to turn on my invisibilty as a mage so I don't have to click off the debuff?
00:28.32[Liquidor]on or off?
00:28.38durcyn<PROTECTED>
00:29.12[Liquidor]As with Ice Block cancel the same aura then cast it in the same macro.
00:29.36*** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-123-152-126.austin.res.rr.com)
00:29.37[Liquidor]/cancelaura Invisibilty (?) ... newline ... /cast Invisibility
00:29.38aen`anyone know why mendeleev wont remove item level, even if i have the option off?
00:30.16phyberyou have another addon adding the item level too? ratingbuster, perhaps.
00:30.34aen`phyber: dont think so, let me check some mods
00:30.55Shirik#api SendChatMessage
00:30.57ThraeBotShirik: SendChatMessage("msg" [, "chatType" [, "language" ] [, "channel" ]]);
00:31.02Shirikmch better
00:31.04Shirikmuch
00:31.04CIA-2203adirelle * r42678 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: typo.
00:31.27Shirikhrm, actually even chatType isn't required for language to be specified
00:31.27Shirikbah
00:31.30Adirelle#help
00:31.54[Liquidor]#help
00:33.02Thrae#guild, #api, #bchar (brief stats), #char, #last
00:33.12RogueShadow#help! I need somebody.  Not just anybody.
00:33.32RogueShadow#guild us azshara Shadows End
00:33.44RogueShadow#guild us azshara "Shadows End"
00:33.46Thrae#guild us maelstrom, Red Leaves Falling
00:33.49ThraeBotThrae: <Red Leaves Falling> on Maelstrom has 45 members
00:33.52RogueShadowah
00:33.59RogueShadow#guild us azshara, Shadows End
00:34.01ThraeBotRogueShadow: <Shadows End> on Azshara has 13 members
00:34.25flexom#guild eu Silvermoon, Ancient Heroes
00:34.27ThraeBotflexom: <Ancient Heroes> on Silvermoon has 225 members
00:34.37*** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net)
00:34.37*** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ
00:34.40RogueShadow#guild us azshara, Death Minions
00:34.40flexomfunny little bugger:p
00:34.45ThraeBotRogueShadow: <Death Minions> on Azshara has 346 members
00:34.53RogueShadow#char us azshara Eroch
00:35.02ThraeBotRogueShadow: Eroch, Level 70 Undead Warlock (42/8/11). 8700 HP; 7165 Mana; 539 Sta; 322 Int; 151 Spi; 1040 Armour; 10 mp5; 4.28% dodge; +78 resilience; +136 spell crit rating; 741 +spell dmg; 641 +heal.
00:35.10flexomtoo bad alts aren't sorted :p
00:35.20RogueShadowEroch is my brother
00:35.27Wobwork#guild us Argent Dawn Eudaimonia
00:35.56phyber#guild eu, The Hidden Circle
00:36.04Wobwork#guild us Argent Dawn, Eudaimonia
00:36.04Thraeserver
00:36.06ThraeBotWobwork: <Eudaimonia> on Argent Dawn has 67 members
00:36.17phyber#guild eu Bloodhoof, The Hidden Circle
00:36.19ThraeBotphyber: <The Hidden Circle> on Bloodhoof has 228 members
00:36.32WobworkIs it actually querying, or is it cached?
00:36.53WobworkCause geez, it's a good example of how AJAX has screwed the armoury for speed =P
00:37.02ThraeWobwork: guild and last query, stats is cached for 3600 seconds
00:37.04*** join/#wowace Darkkish (i=idont@c-24-19-24-147.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
00:37.08Darkkishmy wowace updater doesn't work
00:37.15Darkkishlike... it doesn't appear to open
00:37.36WobworkDid you try chocolate?
00:37.38Darkkishi have to rightclick on the icon and click "maxmize" and then if i even bring another page up it dissapears again, it only works while maximized
00:37.41Darkkishchocolate?
00:37.45Wobworkyeah
00:37.51Wobworkit might not make WAU open up
00:37.56Wobworkbut it'll make you feel better =)
00:38.35Darkkishno it wont
00:38.42Darkkishi had dental surgery and it hurts to eat
00:38.47DarkkishD':
00:39.11phyberthen good news!  the chocolate is a suppository!
00:39.13WobworkNo need to chew chocolate!
00:40.00*** join/#wowace nighty (n=sigh@c211-30-191-4.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
00:44.43Darkkishlol a futurama quote
00:44.46Darkkishright?
00:45.47Shirikchocolate suppository
00:45.50Shirikthat's so wrong on so many levels
00:46.37NeoTronbeen testign a 40/0/21 spec on my lock recently. Definitely not as good as 42/0/19 or similar non-ruin/UA spec
00:46.39WobworkI'll take my chocolate any way I can get
00:48.41CIA-2203nekromant * r42679 10beql/localization-es.lua: beql: - Updated spanish translation
00:54.16kbhone of my mods got updated and my screen flashed when i get crits now
00:59.20CIA-2203adirelle * r42680 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (14 files in 2 dirs): SimpleSelfRebuff: added a revision tag in all files.
01:00.13NightHawkTheSaneoh god, this is so awesome and depressing at the same time: http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010792.html
01:01.03aen`someone have that link to northrend expansion?
01:02.01abyssichatehttp://www.videogamesblogger.com/2007/04/15/new-world-of-warcraft-northrend-based-expansion-pack-expected.htm
01:02.59abyssichate#char eu frostmane wallen
01:03.01ThraeBotabyssichate: Wallen, Level 70 Undead Warlock (41/5/15). 13400 HP; 8320 Mana; 994 Sta; 399 Int; 183 Spi; 1627 Armour; 4.28% dodge; +278 resilience; +5.55% spell hit; +34 spell crit rating; 871 +spell dmg; 771 +heal; +54 frost dmg (925); +158 shadow dmg (1029).
01:04.06aen`#char us cho'gall oyuki
01:04.08ThraeBotaen`: Oyuki, Level 70 Undead Priest (14/0/47). 8521 HP; 8400 Mana; 531 Sta; 404 Int; 190 Spi; 2791 Armour; 22 mp5; 5.3% dodge; +8.88% spell hit; +121 spell crit rating; 583 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (762); +179 shadow dmg (762).
01:05.23JaxonOh, thats new?
01:05.24NightHawkTheSanehuh, that's a new bot.
01:06.02GalkaParser 3.0 error:  http://ace.pastey.net/70299
01:06.41starlon#char us kilrogg starlon
01:06.43ThraeBotstarlon: Starlon, Level 70 Human Warrior (17/44/0). 9364 HP; 449 Str; 495 Sta; 304 Agi; 7188 Armour; 10.88% dodge; 5% block; 1668 AP; 792 RAP; +26.82% melee crit.
01:07.21Aenslaed#char us kel'thuzad superiority
01:07.22ThraeBotAenslaed: Superiority, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9124 HP; 6050 Mana; 468 Str; 569 Sta; 522 Agi; 264 Int; 142 Spi; 5413 Armour; 34.62% dodge; +33 resilience; 1144 AP; 740 RAP; +27.21% melee crit.
01:08.34Wobwork#char us Argent Dawn, tobermory
01:08.34ThraeBotWobwork: that is not the character you're looking for!
01:08.38RogueShadowDie Arthas!!! Scourge of my homeland
01:08.45Wobwork#char us Argent Dawn, eudaimonia tobermory
01:08.46ThraeBotWobwork: that is not the character you're looking for!
01:09.05Wobwork#char us Argent Dawn, Tobermory
01:09.06ThraeBotWobwork: that is not the character you're looking for!
01:09.10Wobwork=(
01:09.45starlonlol
01:09.48durcynno comma.
01:09.58WobworkIt worked earlier with the comma =)
01:10.10abyssichatecomma is required when looking up guilds
01:10.15Wobworkahar
01:10.17Wobwork...
01:10.33WobworkI guess cause guilds can have more than one word
01:10.46abyssichateprobably
01:10.57durcyn#char us Turalyon Durcyn
01:11.04durcyndamn bot
01:11.13Wobworkbot 'sploded
01:11.14starlonbot exploded
01:11.34RogueShadow#char us Azshara Xelis
01:11.43RogueShadowkabluie!
01:12.07RogueShadownobody from the same realms around here.
01:13.40CIA-2203funkydude * r42681 10BigWigs_AQ40/Viscidus.lua: BigWigs_AQ40: Viscidus: bugfixing & cleanup
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01:14.49Adirelle#guild eu Tagada Team
01:15.07Adirelle#guild eu Ner'Zhul, Tagada Team
01:15.30PProvostWas someone looking for me earlier?
01:15.35durcyn~seen ThraeBot
01:15.38purlthraebot <n=ThraeBot@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6m 32s ago, saying: 'Wobwork: that is not the character you're looking for!'.
01:15.40durcynnote threaebot is not here!
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01:16.25Adirelledurcyn: oh, right : * ThraeBot est parti ("Bot exploded (qq!)")
01:16.39Adirelleanyway
01:16.41Adirellenight
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01:17.00kbhazshara yay!
01:18.07abyssichateIs grabbing the ip wow server you are connected to via netstat, performing a traceroute and then pinging the last ICMP-reachable hop a good way to valuate your ping to your wow server?
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01:21.21Lyfehopefully the last hop ethat responds is in the same physical datacenter, abyssichate, so that shouldn't be too bad.
01:22.00durcynoh, hrm. wowjutsu scans guilds on armory, if it finds people wearing items from a boss, then it counts that boss as killed.  clever.
01:22.53sbumhh okay
01:23.26RogueShadowkbh:  azshara yay
01:23.35sbuseed, frost nova, seed, seed, seed, frost nova, seed seed, bam - that should do tidewalker adds... its not dumb mages, its dumb locks... mages casting flamestrike, dragon's breath, 3 frostnova until FIRST seed arrives... *sigh*
01:23.37abyssichateLyfe: yeah, that's what I thought
01:23.43sbuwow webstats ftw...
01:23.45sbu*sigh*
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01:24.10abyssichatetell your locks to start casting SoC right away
01:24.13abyssichateas soon as you are in range
01:24.17abyssichatewhere do you tank him?
01:25.30Arrowmasterwhen were were attempting tidewalker, i was able to chaincast SoC on a single merlock and it would almost always blowup before i could get a new on on it
01:25.31sbutop platform - next to the tunnel leading to karathress
01:25.37abyssichateyeah, that's ok
01:25.41sbuArrowmaster: why?
01:25.47sbubecause too early AE, right?
01:26.00sbui think thats our problem "hey mobs, i can bomb them!"
01:26.04abyssichatewell, actually not. We tank him close to that platform, pushed into a corner - the aoe packs are taken down on the ladders (at the top of them)
01:26.09sbuinstead of waiting for 3-4 SoC to be deployed
01:26.44Arrowmasterwhy you want your warlocks to die?
01:26.55sbuhmm?
01:27.13Arrowmasterif you wait for SoCs to go off before your mages start the warlocks will die
01:27.17sbunono
01:27.39sbufrost nova, 3-4 SoC + some AE effect to trigger SoC, then new frost nova
01:27.41sbushould do it!?
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01:27.58abyssichateI am a warlock, I don't really time my SoC with frost novas
01:28.08Arrowmasterdont think so, i was casting up to 5 SoCs per wave
01:28.31Arrowmasterbut then again we never did kill him
01:28.32abyssichateit's probably up to the mages to have some FN rotation + dragon breath for those who have it
01:28.39sbuhmyep
01:28.39abyssichateand warriors aoe taunting
01:28.52Arrowmasteradd warlock shadow furys in there too
01:28.54sbuand locks chain SoC-ing?
01:29.03Arrowmasterwarriors cant really aoe taunt that much
01:29.05Arrowmastercooldown
01:29.14abyssichatesbu: yes
01:29.23sbuhmhm yeah thats my plan now :p
01:29.28abyssichateyeah, aoe taunt when it is up
01:29.36Arrowmasternot when its up, when its needed
01:29.41sbui could show you our 2min combat log, easy to see whats wrong there ;p
01:29.53abyssichateyes, when it is needed :s
01:30.00abyssichatewe also have warlocks stepping a bit away from the aoe camp
01:30.12Arrowmasterthe warriors will get like 2 aoe taunts that fight max
01:30.14abyssichateso that warriors/druids have time to catch up those who run towards the lock camps
01:30.37abyssichateI don't really know how warriors/druids do it though since we never had issues there
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01:30.57Arrowmasteryeah we had healers and warlocks standing off to the side and the warriors were pulling the merlocks right behind morogrim
01:31.13Arrowmasteri think our mages were doing arcane explosion too much though
01:31.55Arrowmasterwe had best success with having the warriors call out on vent when they were ready for the AoE
01:32.08Arrowmasterthen we all just bombed them and they died really fast
01:32.28sbuyup
01:32.43Arrowmasterproblem was sometimes one of the warriors would get graved while grouping them all up
01:32.45sbumages tend to use arcane explosion all the time, which eats up all their mana :o
01:32.49sbuhmm yep :p
01:33.17kbhi hate arcane explosion :P
01:33.35Arrowmasterim not a mage but i dont think arcane explosion is a good spell to use for aoeing the merlocks unless theyre close to death
01:33.46sbuits 500+ mana
01:33.54aen`anyone else crash when updating itemid's in cart/
01:33.57ArrowmasterSoC is 882
01:34.02sbuso what?
01:34.20sbulocks wont have any trouble with mana ;o
01:34.35Arrowmasteri do sometimes
01:34.38Arrowmasterwhen people ignore me
01:35.40sbu2 shammys w/ chain heal, so no problem at all ;o
01:38.29aen`i mean, the itemids should disconnect me when im updating ones that arent on my server, but i get mem error and crash to desktop
01:41.42Arrowmasteraen`: i just got a normal disconnect
01:42.02aen`Arrowmaster: yeah thats what should happen, but i go to desktop :/
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01:56.57xb95we're on morogrim RIGHT NOW
01:57.07xb95we use dragon's breath, blast wave, frost nova, then arcane exp
01:57.26sbumh
01:57.32sbuthats it? :o
01:57.34sbuno SoC/
01:57.36sbu?
01:57.39xb95well, I mean for mages
01:57.42xb95two pallies tanking
01:57.45xb95and 4 warlocks SoC
01:57.52sbumeh okay ;o
01:57.55xb95tbh, I don't have a mana problem, they go down so fast I barely do 2 or 3 AE
01:57.59sbubut you wait until few SoC are up?
01:58.10xb95yeah, we wait ~5-10 seconds for the pallies to shout to go
01:58.18xb95usually I open with a flamestrike, then run in too
01:58.33sbuokay with pally tank,,, meh :)
01:59.28xb95yeah. we have the warriors backup challenging shout if absolutely necessary, but usually it's ok..
01:59.42xb95although we just wiped due to the pally dropping consecrate in a bad spot so the murlocs trounced some healers
01:59.44xb95QQ clothies
02:01.24xb95g4 is 5 priests o_O
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02:25.19Wobworkhehe
02:25.20Chompersckknight ?
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02:30.58CIA-2203daviesh * r42684 10AtlasLoot/ (9 files in 5 dirs):
02:30.58CIA-22AtlasLoot:
02:30.58CIA-22- All saved variable now use AceDB
02:30.58CIA-22- Item query text spam can now be switched off
02:36.34Kemayockknight: I was being spammed with a Cartographer_Quests error that seemed to be due to its OnNoteMenuRequest getting called repeatedly with bad values (while I wasn't looking at the notes, nonetheless).
02:42.35aen`Detox.lua:715:bad arg #1 to 'format' (string expected, got  nil)
02:45.19aen`anyone experienced in making a cue sheet for large 1track audio files with multiple songs in it/
02:46.16CIA-2203gagorian * r42685 10DrDamage/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
02:46.16CIA-22DrDamage:
02:46.16CIA-22- Modularized caster code
02:46.16CIA-22- Added Melee.lua
02:46.16CIA-22- Added Rogue.lua
02:46.16CIA-22- NOTE: Possibly breaks things
02:46.54GagorianOh and
02:46.59GagorianMelee doesn't work yet
02:47.16xb95<3 DrDamage
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02:49.20CIA-22AtlasLoot:
02:49.20CIA-22- Modified the german instances file to only contain DIFFERENCES from the english, not an entire duplicate copy
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02:59.02CIA-22AtlasLoot:
02:59.02CIA-22- Cleaned up the Trad. Chinese loot tables and German bossnames into a less error prone format
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03:00.26CIA-2203gagorian * r42689 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc Melee.lua):
03:00.26CIA-22DrDamage:
03:00.26CIA-22- Few melee module fixes
03:00.26CIA-22- NOTE: Melee calculation doesn't work
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03:03.35GagorianIf anyone wants to help out by filling rest of the Rogue sheet, feel free
03:03.42GagorianI've added a few first ranks of each ability
03:03.56GagorianIt's just using the same model and checking wowhead
03:04.00ChompersDrDamge is a theorycraft addon then Gagorian?
03:04.08Gagorianyar
03:04.25starlonWhat's that?
03:04.34theoddone33average damage of abilities calculator
03:04.38theoddone33shows on the buttons, very handy
03:04.51starlonah
03:05.00GagorianWell, it does a bit more than that ;)
03:05.19NightHawkTheSaneit does a lot more than that, but most people just care about average damage, and d/hpm :P
03:05.20theoddone33waters my plants when I'm away
03:05.38ArrowmasterGagorian: ive got a 56 rogue and friends got a 70 rogue, be happy to help fill out the info
03:05.42starlonWill it bio for me when we're on a boss?
03:06.05starlonCause I'd use that ;)
03:06.24starlonDoes DrDamage work for fury warriors?
03:06.29GagorianArrowmaster: Alright, download the new files and check out Rogue.lua, should be rather easy to fill out the rest
03:06.40Chompersthat's what socks are for starlon
03:06.46Gagorianstarlon: Not yet, I just started melee today
03:06.47Chompersor a bottle
03:06.51starlonOk
03:07.05Chomperslooking forward to the arms warrior module ;)
03:07.06ArrowmasterGagorian: k, gota switch over to dev first
03:07.33Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
03:08.06NightHawkTheSanethats neat.
03:08.32Funkeh`spam!
03:08.34Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
03:08.35Funkeh`This technique has been used to optimize the bank, bags, inventory, spellbook, and unit frames for a decent speed improvement in 2.2.0.
03:08.36NightHawkTheSanecourse, the concept of "moving when changing resolution and screen aspect ratio" is rather subjective, but whatever.
03:08.37Funkeh`In addition, the game tooltip now handles periodic updates directly instead of requiring OnUpdate functions in each button that might have a tooltip. Many of the related OnEnter functions now take a 'self' parameter, so AddOns will need to be updated to reflect this change.
03:09.27Funkeh`ooo
03:09.29Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
03:10.48NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: link to where all this is?
03:10.51ArrowmasterGagorian: no rogue talent data yet?
03:11.01Funkeh`i think ckk will like the tooltip changes
03:11.03CIA-2203helium * r42690 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
03:11.03CIA-22DogTag-1.0:
03:11.03CIA-22- updated zhTW localization
03:11.19Funkeh`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=9D31C2467C663D0154993D300954ADF9?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=5
03:11.27NightHawkTheSanedanke
03:11.29CIA-2203gagorian * r42691 10DrDamage/ (Data/Rogue.lua Melee.lua):
03:11.29CIA-22DrDamage:
03:11.29CIA-22- Deadly Throw update
03:11.56GagorianArrowmaster: Nope. You can add it too if you like :)
03:12.02Arrowmasterwouldnt know how
03:12.04kergothdrdamage has melee info now?
03:12.06kergothhuh
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03:12.14Gagoriankergoth: Not yet, maybe in a week
03:12.51Funkeh`Gagorian: nice expansion to the addon
03:12.56ArrowmasterGagorian: ill get all the SS and BS in for you
03:13.30GagorianArrowmaster: ["Talent Name"] = { [1] = { Effect = 0.05, Actions = { "Backstab" }, }, for example
03:13.46GagorianThat would give 5% damage per talentpoint to backstab
03:14.00SoleMikk: you still round?
03:14.30GagorianFunkeh`: Yeah, I might as well add it.. But it will be messy for a while :p
03:20.19hypetechhow do you move tanking windows in CT_Raid?
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03:21.12Gagorianhypetech: You install oRA2 and alt+drag the new windows
03:21.26hypetechlol
03:21.29hypetechI told him that
03:21.30hypetech:p
03:21.31Chompersbah beat me to it
03:21.33hypetechbut he's mid raid
03:21.36hypetechand needs to know
03:21.46hypetechand I have no idea because I use ora
03:21.50JaxonLast I remember, you have to unlock those somewhere, don't you?
03:22.30hypetechI don't know anything about CT_Raid, I used it for like a week and switched to ora2
03:22.32GagorianWhat statistics would melee be interested in with their abilities?
03:22.48hypetechhit/miss I would imaginge
03:22.49Arrowmastercrit hit damage
03:22.50hypetechimagine* even
03:23.00Chomperscrit rate/dodge/parry/block
03:23.07Arrowmastercant do that
03:23.29GagorianYar
03:27.02ArrowmasterGagorian: can i change the eviscerate to have a damage range
03:27.24teh_squidits windy
03:29.40GagorianArrowmaster: Yeah just add it like in deadly throw
03:29.59Gagorian[1] = { 6, 10, PerCombo = 5 },
03:30.02Gagorianfor example
03:30.13Arrowmasteryeah
03:30.33Arrowmasterwas just checking evis rank 10 and it all works out with 185 differences
03:31.27CIA-2203gagorian * r42692 10DrDamage/Melee.lua:
03:31.27CIA-22DrDamage:
03:31.27CIA-22- Get current AP only once and pass it around, instead of getting it again
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03:32.42GagorianArrowmaster: Ok, nice. I just checked some lower ranks to see they could be added with differences instead of putting everything in
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03:33.01Arrowmasteryou had backstab in twice btw
03:33.17Arrowmasterive got all the backstab and sinister strike values, getting evis now
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03:34.23GagorianArrowmaster: Hrmm, the other backstab is probably something else I forgot to change the name for :P
03:37.04Gagoriannah, it can be removed
03:38.09Kaeltenremove it all!
03:38.11Kaeltenremove it all!
03:38.14Kaeltentake down the site!
03:38.15Kaeltennow!
03:38.18Kaeltensorry
03:39.15NightHawkTheSane~comfort Kaelten
03:39.16purlThere, there, Kaelten.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
03:39.16GagorianUmmm.. 'OK'
03:39.18Kaelten<PROTECTED>
03:39.21Kaelten:P
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03:39.32CIA-2203gagorian * r42693 10DrDamage/Melee.lua:
03:39.32CIA-22DrDamage:
03:39.32CIA-22- Ranged crit chance
03:39.49NightHawkTheSaneHey, everyone has the right to go insane now and again.
03:39.56NightHawkTheSaneI went mad once. Did me no end of good.
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03:48.05CIA-2203gagorian * r42694 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Melee.lua):
03:48.05CIA-22DrDamage:
03:48.06CIA-22- More stuff.
03:48.16GagorianAnd that's it for tonight :l
03:48.24GagorianArrowmaster just commit when you're done
03:48.36Arrowmasterk
03:48.36NightHawkTheSaneWe need svn electroshock therapy
03:48.44Arrowmastertring to figure out this rupture stuff
03:48.49NightHawkTheSanegives you a jolt of electricity when you make commits with shitty log messages
03:49.24GagorianArrowmaster: It's a bit weird
03:49.37Arrowmasterjust tell me what extra is
03:50.04Arrowmasternvm i think i see it
03:50.12GagorianBut it's calculated: Base + ExtraPerCombo[combopoints] * Extra + PerCombo * combopoints
03:50.23GagorianSince it's not even intervalls
03:50.30Gagorianit increases a bit every CP
03:50.31Arrowmasterok got it
03:50.46Gagoriankk
03:53.00GagorianThe calculation should work with /print DrDamage:MeleeCalc("Sinister Strike",3) for example if you want to test something
03:53.11Gagorianit can error now though cause I drycoded last few commits
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03:56.44RogueShadowAh! Dry!!!  
03:56.53RogueShadowThere you go.
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03:57.46CIA-22AtlasLoot:
03:57.46CIA-22- Fixed an error with colours not available in this file
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04:02.30LywellynQuestion: Which Addon for displaying runspeed is the best?  Also, which Addon for auto-equipping mount items upon mounting?
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04:06.23GagorianArrowmaster: Add NoNormalization = true to Riposte while you're at it :)
04:06.29Arrowmasterk
04:06.39Arrowmastergot all the values done
04:06.42Arrowmasterworking on talents
04:07.30JaxonLywellyn: Try MountMe!
04:08.25GagorianArrowmaster: Alright, nice. Just add talents roughly, I haven't made the calculation part anyway so data structure can be changed in any direction
04:08.35Arrowmasterfigured
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04:08.49Arrowmasterare all the stuff in the rogue module defaulted to physical damage?
04:09.02ThraeLatest version of MountMe! can be found at http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
04:09.23ArrowmasterGagorian: meaning can i just add School = "Nature" to envenom?
04:09.34GagorianYeah
04:11.18Arrowmasterill leaving adding the poison check for Mutilate to you
04:11.46GagorianYar, it's on the bottom of the todo list :P
04:12.37jwwpuadoes Autobar support BG water/food?
04:12.54durcynyes, jwwpua
04:12.59jwwpuai can't get it to show up
04:13.09jwwpuaStar's Tears
04:13.09GagorianAdd it manually then
04:13.14GagorianDrag to the slot
04:13.51stavmarany particular ace mod knocking you off server today?
04:15.28durcynjwwpua: wit's listed by battleground.  "Food: Arathi Basin", "Food: Warsong Gulch"
04:17.32jwwpuadurcyn: yeah i see those, but not Star's Tears
04:17.41jwwpuaand when I drag it there, it still doesn't show up
04:19.57jwwpuai'm trying to start from scratch, but I can't add any items
04:20.18jwwpuawhen i click on a category, it doesn't do anything. left-click, right-click, shift-click. nothing
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04:26.11CIA-2203samuelcup * r42696 10Tankalyze/ (4 files):
04:26.11CIA-22Tankalyze:
04:26.11CIA-22- zhCN translation added
04:26.11CIA-22- added Mocking Blow crits
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04:34.21GagorianIs it possible to have two fubar plugins for the same addon? (can't test now cause EU is down)
04:34.29CIA-2203next96 * r42698 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-koKR.lua:
04:34.29CIA-22FuBar_BagFu:
04:34.29CIA-22- Update locale koKR
04:34.51Funkeh`Gagorian: i don't think so
04:35.12CIA-2203samuelcup * r42699 10Tankalyze/Localization.zhCN.lua:
04:35.12CIA-22Tankalyze:
04:35.12CIA-22- zhCN translation updated
04:35.35GagorianFunkeh`: Well, I need to find some cunning way to do it then
04:35.46Funkeh`whats it for
04:35.49GagorianDie hybrid classes, die.
04:35.53NightHawkTheSanewhy do you need that?
04:36.03GagorianDrDamage melee and caster. So hybrids would have both enabled
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04:36.48Funkeh`just have 1 with headers, -Caster- then the menus and -Melee- then the menus
04:37.00Funkeh`with some gaps enbetween
04:37.32GagorianWell, I had a nice idea of having different icons!
04:37.45Funkeh`did i screw it?
04:37.52GagorianHrmm. I guess I need to make the AceOptions table global then
04:38.05NightHawkTheSaneWhy do you need different icons?
04:38.06GagorianSo I can add stuff to it based on what's loaded
04:38.25GagorianBecause casters need caster icon and melee needs swords!
04:38.32NightHawkTheSane...
04:38.43Funkeh`... indeed!
04:39.06GagorianIT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE
04:39.28Funkeh`:P
04:39.56NightHawkTheSane"Well my translation's a little bit vague, I think it means 'The place of our legacy'... ..or it could mean 'A piece of our leg', but the first seems to make more sense.
04:39.57NightHawkTheSane"
04:39.59CIA-2203samuelcup * r42700 10Tankalyze/Tankalyze.toc:
04:39.59CIA-22Tankalyze:
04:39.59CIA-22- TOC updated to 20100
04:40.20Funkeh`sounds like sg1
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04:41.24NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: indeed. s2x15 "The Fifth Race"
04:41.27CIA-2203roartindon * r42701 10Aloft/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
04:41.27CIA-22Aloft
04:41.27CIA-22- Added Alpha module
04:41.37Funkeh`:)
04:41.42Funkeh`i hate that its finished
04:41.51GagorianIt was time!
04:41.53NightHawkTheSaneYeah. I hate the -way- it finished. ><
04:41.59Funkeh`i have basically every episode on dvd every time i finish it i start watching from the start again
04:42.33Funkeh`well theres supposed to be a direct-to-dvd movie with a better ending
04:42.35NightHawkTheSanelol. Yeah, I've got all the episodes (albeit downloads that are not precisely dvd quality).
04:42.36GagorianToo many filler episodes, too little arc. (I watched every episode, though)
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04:45.25Funkeh`The Prophet Skeram casts Initialize Image. -- sounds like robocop
04:46.22theoddone33I'd like to do aq40
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04:46.33theoddone33can't catch all my librams without it
04:46.40theoddone33see, because they're like pokemon
04:46.50Funkeh`we got to huhu and wiped once but it was getting to late to try again
04:47.05theoddone33where do you get NR at 70?
04:47.06Funkeh`we can only really do it at night since we got black temple etc in evenings :p
04:47.19Funkeh`greenz!
04:47.25NightHawkTheSane"of nature protection" greens and crafted blues that you have from hydross? :P
04:47.43theoddone33I thought there was a series of patterns from one of the rep venders
04:47.46theoddone33hm
04:47.59NightHawkTheSaneThere is, i think.
04:48.02JaxonCenarion Circle
04:48.09JaxonHas Leather, Cloth and I think Plate stuff
04:48.24NightHawkTheSaneyou mean CE, but yeah
04:48.33JaxonNo, I mean Cenarion Circle.
04:48.35CIA-2203next96 * r42702 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFuLocals-koKR.lua:
04:48.35CIA-22FuBar_TopScoreFu :
04:48.35CIA-22- Update locale koKR
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04:49.57NightHawkTheSaneoh, right, the old 60 stuff.
04:49.59Funkeh`CE is 60 stuff
04:50.04Funkeh`CC*
04:51.48JaxonEasy enough to get/make.
04:54.55Antiarc*headdesk*
04:55.08AntiarcWhy oh why did my realm's resident troll have to find the Omen thread?
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04:55.37NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: eh, you knew it was inevitable
04:55.59Antiarc"KTM's resource usage doesn't matter because people didn't care about it before!"
04:57.19nymbialol
04:57.29Funkeh`your mum doesn't matter because people didn't care about her before
04:57.36Kalman|Antiarc: If I can get ahold of him, I will send my realm's resident troll out to do combat.
04:57.42Antiarc;_;
04:57.53Kalman|You'll like Ragnaros.
04:58.01Kalman|He has a sense of humor.
04:58.09GngskDoesn't matter that smoking causes cancer because people didn't care about that before
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05:26.08Funkeh`later
05:26.14theoddone33I suck at being a hunter... trying to kite a 21 elite around at 19
05:26.15CIA-2203hegarol * r42703 10AtlasLoot/ (Bossnames/bossnames.de.lua Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua):
05:26.15CIA-22AtlasLoot:
05:26.15CIA-22- Raid loot upgrade
05:26.15CIA-22- German update
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05:28.30CIA-22TagCompiler-1.0
05:28.30CIA-22- Adjusted Syntax highlighting of a text tag with no tag components
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05:34.09Aenslaedwoot
05:34.14Aenslaedphoenix mount dropped for us
05:34.28Aenslaedand I think it went to someone who doesn't have the riding skill...
05:34.56NightHawkTheSanewell, thats an incentive for them
05:36.37art3miswierd
05:36.37CIA-2203cryect * r42705 10Recount/ (GUI_Realtime.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Fixes double events being added for self heal events
05:36.46art3mistexas chainsaw massacre 4 is on encore mystery
05:37.09NightHawkTheSane"Captain, relativity gives me a headache."
05:37.42art3miscan i ask you a question mister?
05:37.45art3missure what is it?
05:38.05art3misits an interrogative statement used to derive knowledge, but thats not important right now
05:44.05CIA-2203fleetfoot * r42706 10Fudge/Fudge.lua:
05:44.05CIA-22Fudge:
05:44.05CIA-22- Changes, changes, were will they lead.
05:44.12xyuto typos
05:44.51CIA-2203fleetfoot * r42707 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua:
05:44.51CIA-22LittleTrouble
05:44.51CIA-22- A minor thing in the grand scheme of things.
05:45.21durcynsome people can get away with cutesy commit messages.  i've come to the conclusion that fleetfoot is not one of those people.
05:45.51durcynwhich is unfortunate, because he's not here to see our derision
05:46.14NightHawkTheSanedurcyn: have you heard my idea for svn electroshock therapy?
05:46.38NightHawkTheSaneIf you fail to use a useful and informative commit message, you get zapped with 10k volts. *nod* :P
05:46.54durcyn"10 kilowatts across the nipples"
05:47.00durcynto quote the BOFH
05:47.03NightHawkTheSanehehe
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05:48.08durcynhrm, speaking of bad ideas.  being too lazy to copy the wowhead-synced carto db, and trying to transfer it with acecomm, kind of sucks.
05:48.32durcynmaybe there should be a "are you sure you want to send 8000 nodes, dumbass?" prompt
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05:55.56CIA-2203roartindon * r42708 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/Threat.lua):
05:55.56CIA-22Assessment
05:55.56CIA-22- Some rearrangement of code
05:58.13ZealotOnAStickVisual IRC seems reasonable so far.
06:00.14art3mishttp://www.xkcd.com/c282.html
06:01.06CIA-2203kemayo * r42709 10FuBar_SpeedFu/SpeedFu.lua: FuBar_SpeedFu: Get rid of the tooltip. It was the most useless thing *ever*.
06:02.36Icerothno 2.1.3 this week?
06:05.58kebinusannope
06:06.13Icerothzzz
06:07.07CIA-2203arrowmaster * r42710 10DrDamage/Data/Rogue.lua: DrDamage: updated Rogue data and started to add talent info, none of which works yet
06:07.43CIA-2203roartindon * r42711 10Aloft/Modules/Alpha.lua:
06:07.43CIA-22Aloft
06:07.43CIA-22- Alpha: Shortcut one lookup and function call on nameplate updates
06:07.52ZealotOnAStickI think after giving this machine a digital enema, it's cleaned up and working.  
06:08.18ZealotOnAStickbrb/
06:11.36art3misMeanwhile back at the Ranch.
06:12.41art3misthey should add an irc client to the updater so you can just click on cia commits and have it tick that revision for leeching
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06:13.24art3miscuz i never remember the cool mods when im sitting in the updater and not looking at irc
06:14.35CIA-2203roartindon * r42712 10Aloft/Modules/Alpha.lua: Aloft: Alpha - changed hooking code again
06:15.12Wobworkhehe
06:15.18Wobworkwowace://AddonName
06:16.32ZealotOnAStickOk.
06:16.45ZealotOnAStickI DARE This machine to send Paris Hilton porn spam now!
06:18.11art3misWobwork: yeah that would rule, specially if it didnt actually do anytyhing but create a "reminder.txt" that loads when wau loads
06:18.32art3miswhy would you spam paris hilton with porn?
06:18.39art3misthat seems counter productive
06:18.59ZealotOnAStick~lart art3mis
06:18.59purldrops a baby grand on art3mis
06:19.29art3misan accordian sound
06:19.29CyrezI think what they really need is a GUI frontend to the command line SVN client.
06:19.33ZealotOnAStick~applaud art3mis
06:19.34purlACTION pins art3mis to the wall with steak knives, then gives art3mis a hanging ovation
06:20.29art3miscompelte with AWOOOGAH and YIIIIIPPPPPPEEEE sounds
06:20.37ZealotOnASticksvn as a distribution mechanism would bite, though.  the static generated zips are way better for most of that.
06:20.46art3misas a public service announcement btw
06:20.59art3misMonsterHD for anyone that gets it is running godzilla movies ALL tomorrow
06:21.02CyrezIt'd be so much easier than my method of figuring out all of the libs I need.
06:21.12Cyrezfind . -name dir-prop-base | xargs grep svn.wowace | cut -d " " -f2 | cut -f2 | sort | cut -d/ -f1-7 | uniq
06:21.27art3mismines way easier
06:21.36durcynyeah, except that ten thousand people spamming svn up with a dozen externals tends to fuck things up cpu-wise
06:21.41art3misget addon... start wow.. hover and look close wow get lib start wow
06:21.55Arrowmasteri just run this bat file called update
06:22.02art3misinsert punctuation where applicable
06:22.16durcynyes, i'm sure everyone in here is smart enough to figure things out
06:22.18art3misthe python updater is pretty rad too
06:22.21durcynbut joe addonuse rhas an IQ of 20
06:22.35art3mis~wapy
06:22.42art3mis~waupy
06:22.56art3misbah
06:23.03durcynfail.
06:23.06CyrezI have my batch downloader set to ignore all externals so I crafted that command to find out what libs I need to get.
06:23.13art3misi lose at infobot
06:23.24durcynCyrez: yeah, okay.  explain that to someone with the attention span of a gnat.
06:23.49durcyn97% of wow players don't give a shit how they get addons, nor if they are current, nor if what they have works
06:24.04art3misthe other 65% cant read
06:24.11CyrezI know, lol.
06:24.22Neebler32% of wow players enjoy making up statistics
06:24.22art3misand the remaining 43% are horrible at math
06:24.55art3misits a fact that 62% of all statistics are made up
06:24.57Wobworkpython wowace.py -s
06:25.09CyrezOkay, I'll say it in the simplest terms I can...
06:25.19art3misnods wob
06:25.30CyrezI'm being nice to SVN.
06:25.56durcynyeah, but that does not scale.
06:25.58art3mistechnically the python script should accomplish what you want in the first place ;P
06:26.19durcynnice x 1000 = naughty
06:26.22CIA-2203sayclub * r42713 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CoilfangReservoir/SerpentshrineCavern/Vashj.lua: Threat-1.0: Updated translation koKR
06:26.38art3misnice + wh(i)^p == naughty
06:26.48CyrezI'll write a shell script as soon as I get more bored and depressed than usual.
06:27.35art3misheh that reminds me about the quote from one of my office mates about kde
06:28.02art3miskde was for people that couldnt grasp that unix wasnt supposed to be fun and slow
06:28.36art3mismisses
06:29.29CyrezMy dad worked at Digital Equipment Corporation so I grew up around Unix.
06:29.45CIA-2203next96 * r42714 10Violation/locales/koKR.lua:
06:29.45CIA-22Violation:
06:29.45CIA-22- Update locale koKR
06:29.55art3misnice
06:30.17abyssichateCan I touch you!
06:30.27art3misthats a trick question
06:30.33art3misdont answer!
06:30.38CyrezI know next to nothing compared to my dad but I know enough to not do anything stupid, lol.
06:30.45art3misheh
06:30.56Cyrezrm -f /
06:31.00CyrezOr w/e that one is.
06:31.09art3misused to motherboard fixing on dec 200s
06:31.18art3misrm -rf /
06:31.26art3misas #
06:31.36art3misits still really funny to do when yer bored though
06:31.44art3misspecially if its from a terminal
06:31.53CyrezI have a Rainbow 100 in my storage locker.
06:31.57art3missorta like removing libstd++ ;P
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06:32.26art3misyou ever hear of the Sun Sharks?
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06:32.41CyrezSun Sharks?
06:33.14art3misyeah little sun laptops without harddrives
06:33.18art3misflash boots
06:33.25art3mismeant as replacement dumb terminals
06:33.31CyrezNo, but DEC made something similar.
06:33.35art3miswell flash/net boots
06:33.50art3misfriend of mines company in calgary had a tree of them for the rc5 contest
06:33.53CyrezVERY similar, in fact.
06:34.18art3mis80 of them on this 8' high xmas looking tree thingy
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06:34.26art3misoh yeah
06:34.32art3misi remember the dec ones
06:34.51CyrezMy dad was on that project.
06:34.55CyrezHe has one, in fact.
06:35.04art3misi miss mainframe arch
06:35.19CyrezAnd used to work with the guy that NetBSD says to contact for firmware.
06:35.30art3misspiffy
06:35.42art3mistell yer dad some inet nerd says thanks ;P
06:35.42CyrezI kept bugging him to talk to the guy but he never did and he's since left the company.
06:35.49Cyrez:-P
06:36.25art3misused to go for drinks with the obsd guy
06:36.27art3mistheo
06:36.28CyrezSince you know about that, do you know about the Personal Jukebox?
06:36.52art3misactually nope
06:37.02durcynis de raadt as much of a prick in person as he is electronically, art?
06:37.06art3misyes
06:37.08art3misyes he is
06:37.10Cyrezhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Jukebox
06:37.13art3mishe's ecclectic
06:37.22art3missmall doses are a good thing
06:37.43art3mishe had this annoying habit of going on widly irrelevant tangenets anytime someone said something wrong
06:37.58art3miswhatching him and the secfoc guys talk was worth the cover charge though
06:38.32JaxonOkay, so, here is a good question
06:38.40art3misthose are kind of rad
06:38.45JaxonYou think that a rogue that stealthed to chess after aran could masterloot out stuff to the rest of the raid?
06:38.55art3misnope
06:38.57CyrezThe Personal Jukebox came before the iPod. ^^
06:38.58art3misits a chest
06:39.04art3misyou cant ml the chest we tried
06:39.06JaxonChests are on ML now
06:39.12JaxonI thought?
06:39.14art3misas of saturday
06:39.26art3misthe operson still needs to loot the chest to get the item
06:39.37JaxonGroup loot?
06:39.43art3miswell
06:39.54art3miswe discovered that it behaves exactly the same as domo's chest
06:40.15art3mismeaning you can't "ml" it
06:40.38art3misand for someone outaside the raid to get stuff they just need to join the raid run in and open it
06:40.46art3misits not a real chest per se
06:41.10art3misgl you might be able to do it
06:41.10Wobworkimplants, eh?
06:41.17art3misyup
06:41.27Wobworkdamn the silicone revolution
06:41.53art3misdurcyn: theo once bought 25 grayscale vga 15" monitors from a friend of mine for 25 bucks each just to have a wall of them in his garage
06:42.27Wobworka headache inducing wall from the refreshrate
06:42.55art3misheh
06:43.02art3misi miss my testing monitor
06:43.05art3misit was awesome
06:43.07xyuTo play microsoft flightsim 1906
06:43.14art3misthis little 800x600 9" svga monito
06:43.36xyui could still play quake 3 on that monitor.  screw high res!
06:43.37art3misit made ya squint but it was so tiny it was awesome
06:47.18NightHawkTheSaneCan someone ping me?
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06:48.52art3mis1 second!
06:48.57art3misman you're lagged
06:49.05NightHawkTheSane...
06:49.08NightHawkTheSanenot that kind of ping.
06:49.53art3misnighthawkthesane: ping
06:49.56art3misthat kind?
06:50.02NightHawkTheSaneyeah, good deal. thanks
06:50.14RaydenUniThe dagger formula replaced the AP*WpnSpd/14 portion with AP*1.7/14, meaning all daggers perform as if they were at 1.70spd for purposes of the  ambush/BS calculations.  <-- is this true?
06:50.21RaydenUniso dagger speed doesn't matter for main hand?
06:50.46NightHawkTheSaneyes it is, and yes dagger speed still maters.
06:50.59NightHawkTheSanes/ate/atte/
06:51.05RaydenUniso still want high dmg, low speed for mainhand
06:51.12NightHawkTheSaneyes
06:51.18RaydenUnihttp://www.thottbott.com/i20441 <-- so this is kind of crap then
06:51.58NightHawkTheSaneSlower weapons will have higher top end damage than faster weapons of equivalent dps, so even though speed doesn't multiply AP anymore, you still want slower for instant attacks
06:52.08RaydenUniSS and ambush
06:52.17RaydenUniand stuff
06:52.20NightHawkTheSaneyes
06:54.09RaydenUniodd
06:54.32NightHawkTheSanewhy?
06:54.45RaydenUnii'm looking for new weapons for my 23 rogue
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06:55.01RaydenUnihttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Bequin
06:55.13CIA-2203daviesh * r42715 10AtlasLoot/ (13 files in 5 dirs):
06:55.13CIA-22AtlasLoot:
06:55.13CIA-22- Split the Rep menus in Atlas into more logical chunks, moved the 'back' button to the bottom of the loot frame, out of the way of everything else.
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07:03.00CIA-2203helium * r42716 10Aloft/Options/Modules/Alpha.lua:
07:03.00CIA-22Aloft:
07:03.00CIA-22- zhTW localization updated
07:03.15RaydenUnithe armory doesn't seem to filter weapon suggestions by dps. it shows you weapons with lower dps than your current one
07:03.31durcynthe armory, afaict, goes only by ilevel
07:03.41Wobworkmeh
07:03.59Wobworknot overly useful =P I need beter groupings
07:04.02durcynbut hey, at least it's not a bloated piece of ajax shit overlayed by flash
07:04.05durcynoh... wait, nevermind
07:04.27WobworkIs it an XML issue?
07:04.29Wobworker
07:04.36Wobworkis the weapon suggestion accesible through the xml?
07:04.53durcynshould be, i've never tried parsing that
07:05.04ThePug[zZz]http://benoitchokinghazard.ytmnd.com/
07:05.22durcynyou thinking of scraping the list and re-sorting it, wob?
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07:06.13NightHawkTheSaneactually, if you could do that, you could do some interestingly robust things
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07:06.25WobworkI was thinking that some of the stuff like thraebot could use it
07:06.51durcyni'm sorely tempted to write a "generate plain godamn html" front-end, personally
07:07.13NightHawkTheSaneIf you had a list/db of where items are obtained. You could create a 'smarter' suggestion method, that allows you to include/exclude various sources.
07:07.41Wobworkdurcyn: make it generate the images to asciiart =)
07:07.50NightHawkTheSaneie "show me only non-epic upgrades." or "non-raid upgrades" eetc
07:09.04CIA-2203helium * r42717 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
07:09.04CIA-22Babble-2.2:
07:09.04CIA-22- updated zhTW: Spell
07:10.23durcynit pisses me off to no end how asshats like blizzard can live with themselves after churning out shit like that.  it's the browser accessibility equivalent of a wheelchair access ramp with spikes and flamethrowers and swinging pendulum axes, with a sign that says "we don't like your kind here"
07:10.38WobworkIf it were more html based, you could probably greasemonkey some values into it
07:10.46durcynuntil their "blizzard forum 2.0" crap a few months ago, you couldn't even view the realm forum list in a text browser
07:11.00WobworkActually...
07:11.06Wobworka ramp like that would be kinda cool
07:11.21WobworkYou could play indiana jones music on the loudspeaker
07:11.57durcyni do probably half of my web browsing in a screened elinks via ssh.  wowhead, blizzard, and god knows what else look at it and go "...buh?"
07:11.57NightHawkTheSanedurcyn: yeah, thats the one thing that kinda irks me. I mean, I don't mind a lot of server down time, in-game screwups, etc.. but when their website is so poorly done.. It's boggling
07:12.34durcynat the very least, you build basic functionality into plain old HTML, then give the user the option of turning on the fancy overlay crap that, while "enriching the experience", adds no real value
07:12.50durcynthottbot, for example, works like a charm in a text browser.
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07:13.13NightHawkTheSanethats why I've always liked thott, it was simple and clean
07:13.36durcynare they supplying any different data?  no, they're just putting it in a format that anyone can read, unlike certain other companies
07:13.38NightHawkTheSaneA website should really always default back to a useable bare-html state if necessary.
07:14.00durcynshould sue blizzard under the ADA or something, see where it goes
07:14.18durcyn"what the fuck, my braille web browser just exploded"
07:14.29Punkie`i'll give you a hint
07:14.34Punkie`"nowhere"
07:14.39CIA-2203sayclub * r42718 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
07:14.39CIA-22Babble-2.2:
07:14.39CIA-22- Updated koKR: Spell
07:14.40durcyn=(
07:14.47NightHawkTheSaneeh, if you had the money to back it it would;
07:14.47Thrae"Why can't I view anything using AOL 1.0's browser?!?!"
07:14.56durcynif i had a parade, you'd be there with a garden hose, punkie.
07:14.58NightHawkTheSanebut like all things, money drives the world
07:15.03RaydenUniso yeah
07:15.06RaydenUniBG at lvl 23 sucks
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07:15.40art3mishehe and its not like you could complain on their forums about the new format if you only used lynx ;)
07:15.42Punkie`they will just point out that they can't support everything
07:15.57Punkie`and the 3 biggest browsers can view the content
07:16.02durcynthe new format's actually an improvement
07:16.23RaydenUni<durcyn> should sue blizzard under the ADA or something, see where it goes <-- there are laws for that in the UK
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07:16.57durcyni'm not exactly british, but i'll bear that in mind
07:17.12NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: you don't have to support everything, but defaulting to bare html for text-based browsers and including proper markup for specialized user agents (screen readers, brail interfaces) is considered par for the course.
07:17.19Punkie`yes, however
07:17.23Punkie`you don't pay for the forum
07:17.26Punkie`it's extra
07:17.35NightHawkTheSaneSo?
07:17.48NightHawkTheSaneIt's a matter of usability.
07:17.49durcynby requiring a valid account login, i'd say they're charging for access to it
07:17.57NightHawkTheSaneWeb standards, ADA Standards, etc.
07:18.05NightHawkTheSaneI'm not even talking about the forums.
07:18.21durcynanyway, people who write shitty HTML will be first against the wall when the revolution comes, that's the point.
07:18.22NightHawkTheSaneThe -entire- wow website, and especially the armory, is piss poor, and you don't need to pay to have access to it
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07:19.08mitch0yo
07:19.11Punkie`i know that armory is horrible :p
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07:19.36Punkie`i cringe every time someone makes an application to our guild and I have to click on a link to it
07:19.54JaxonYou know its bad when you can feel your CPU chug when WoW is open and you open up the WoW sit eon the other screen.
07:21.38Wobworkhm,
07:21.45WobworkI wonder how easily a blind person could play woW =P
07:22.10art3miswith the right intermediary software fairly easy
07:22.30art3misbut could you imagine a text->voice for barrens chat?
07:22.33NightHawkTheSaneI doubt that kind of intermediary software exists, though
07:23.10art3misNightHawkTheSane: true would prolly break the eula and get banned ;P
07:23.46art3misoh and go see transformers
07:23.49art3misit's awesome
07:23.52NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: considering that to be at all useful it'd have to actually interpret the 3d world and translate it either into speech or to brail, yes, it would.
07:24.09art3misNightHawkTheSane: not really,. that indepth no
07:24.38art3misit could however descibe co-ord objects
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07:24.44art3miskind of like bots do now
07:24.53art3misfence ahead 5 yards
07:24.59NightHawkTheSaneTrue, i suppose
07:25.01JaxonI was thinking about this the other day
07:25.08art3mis"orc sentry" to the left 10 degrees
07:25.19JaxonIt'd be way too difficult, WoW has way too many visual cues.
07:25.19art3misit really only would need to do collision checks for things
07:25.30NightHawkTheSaneIf you had a well laid out set of objects, that might work. But it'd still be useless for interacting with mobiles
07:25.38art3misjaxon: ive seen bots behave quite well "learning" on their own
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07:25.48art3misnot really
07:25.57art3misagain coords it could note a moving object
07:26.12art3misor even the UID of said object marking it as interfacable
07:26.34art3misthere would need to be a marked terrain however
07:26.39MoonWolfart3mis, bot response time is almost instant
07:26.43art3misbut past that the interface could be quite simple
07:26.48MoonWolfperson response time based on spoken out text is TOO SLOW
07:26.50art3misMoonWolf: nods
07:27.19art3misbut its compeltely feasible to believ that there is a way to do it
07:27.30art3misbut again tis completely against the eula
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07:27.35MoonWolfif wow would get a pause button, sure.
07:27.46art3miswouldnt even need that
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07:28.22art3missince siting distance based on uid or collisions can be gaged from a fair distance
07:28.31art3misyou would know ahead of time where something was
07:28.48art3misand keep in mind anyone tahts playing wow blind ahs played othergames blind too
07:29.00art3misthus thier reactions are a tad faster than use listening for verbal clues
07:29.03art3miswith our eyes shut
07:29.20art3misit wouldnt even really need to verbalise things
07:29.25NightHawkTheSaneWell, I don't think the premise of 'anyone who plays wow blind has played other games blind'
07:29.28NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
07:29.29art3misexcapt at flight masters and boast/zeps
07:29.37art3misin most cases it is
07:29.37NightHawkTheSanebut your conclusion is sound enough.
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07:29.51art3misive know some console players who were blind and pretty friggin awesome
07:30.02xyui've played Drive-the-car-as-long-as-possible-with-your-eyes-closed  game
07:30.12art3misthats called sleeping xyu ;)
07:30.42WobworkEasy left!
07:30.45WobworkEasy right!
07:30.46art3mishah
07:30.58art3misquick elts drive by moonlight!
07:31.04art3mison this super windy road!
07:31.06durcynlast time i tried that i ended up in a median at a sudden stop due to three tons of concrete pipe, i really don't recommend it.
07:31.23ScoTTie_Easy hard right maybe
07:31.25xyuat least it wasn't game over!
07:31.30art3mishah
07:31.31Wobworkwell it's better than a river impact =P
07:31.38art3misit is in pole posiion
07:31.44Wobworkbadoom tisch
07:31.52durcynwas game over for the car, at least :o
07:32.08art3misdur has 2 lives left and 15 years to a free guy ;P
07:32.27art3misno coin bonus for you!
07:33.00durcynnah, you can't treat it like a video game.  
07:33.00art3misor secret turtle jump infinity men
07:33.14art3misim talking about yer insurance ;P
07:33.18durcyntoo much prison time for counter-strike flashbacks
07:33.55art3misthats when you make a ps2 controller out of soap and use toothpaste to draw on the cell wall
07:34.13art3misplay THAT game long enough and people will leave you alone as totally fucked up
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07:34.31art3misunless you get the retards ward and they fight over the controller
07:34.55art3misand you cathc them in yer cell afte lights out rying to learn some new skills so they can beat you at it tomorrow
07:35.34art3misthat would be rather surreal to see though
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07:38.55Wobworkart3mis: You then shove that controller where the sun don't shine
07:39.04Wobworkand since it's made of soap, it's easy
07:39.22WobworkAlso makes it easy cleanup =P
07:39.33jwwpuais holy paladin, ms warrior, resto shaman a good 3v3 team?
07:39.46NightHawkTheSane"What do you want?" "To live." "Can't help you there. That's between you and your god. Oh wait a minute, you are your god. That's a problem."
07:41.01mitch0yo guys. what would be the easies way to add a font selector to my addon? does dewdrop support it out-of-the-box (as for color picker)? if not, is it implemented nicely in some addon already that I can steal? :)
07:41.40durcynuse SML
07:41.59Wobworkmitch0: nothing ootb
07:42.08NightHawkTheSanemitch0: check out quartz, I know it implements an SML-enhanced font list
07:42.16Wobworkcolourpicker is a blizzard standard ui object
07:42.20mitch0ah
07:42.28mitch0ok, I'll take a look at quartz
07:42.45durcynquartz, omen, ebb, pitbull, aloft, cowtip, all have SML font selectors
07:42.48NightHawkTheSanebut i know that just uses dewdrop/waterfall, so its probably just generating an aceoptionstable
07:45.52mitch0maybe that aceoptions part generation should be refactored into SML
07:46.13durcynas it exists now, SML just provides paths to the media, it doesn't have any selection methods
07:46.31mitch0yeah, but it knows all the paths :)
07:46.38durcynbut yeah, not a bad idea.
07:46.45mitch0so it could generate the dropdown menu for them
07:46.57NightHawkTheSaneeh
07:47.12NightHawkTheSanemight not be a bad idea, actually.
07:47.12mitch0well, not the menu as such, but the part of the options table that would be rendered as such
07:47.27mitch0someone do it fast, so I can use it :)
07:47.28NightHawkTheSaneonly thing i can think of is if you had your own base fonts you wanted to include that may or may not be duplicated in SML
07:47.40[Ammo]it's very easy to make the dropdown for font selection
07:47.43Nargiddleyits probably just a validate table to generate the options
07:47.51[Ammo]yeah that's all
07:48.05mitch0oh well, time for some copy-paste :)
07:48.09[Ammo]and you want to handle the get and set yourself probably
07:48.17NightHawkTheSane"Whenever possible, steal code." :P
07:48.41durcyn"imitation is the sincerest form of copyright infringement"?
07:49.11Moltarainwould be nice with some global options that could be forced uppon addons (like stay on screen) and some tool to set it. like a global wowace addon that can if used like a master control. overiding plugin defaults.
07:49.47durcynyou could override basically any library call if you wanted, yes.
07:49.52durcyngood example would be Surfaces
07:49.55Moltarainobvious the addons would need to check the parameter for that tool and se if its nil or not
07:50.32art3mis#1 Loser and looser – The extra "o" provides more emphasis when the point really needs to be made. An exclamation mark commonly follows "looser," while a period is normally used after "loser."
07:50.32art3misYes: I can't believe you lost the chess match.  You are such a loser.
07:50.32art3misYes: You've never seen The Animatrix?  What a looser!
07:50.32art3misNo: Tom uses AOL, lives with his parents and plays a Night Elf hunter.  Total loser!
07:50.47Thraeart3mis: A FEMALE Night Elf Hunter.
07:51.42NightHawkTheSanelooser? I hardly know her!
07:51.54RaydenUnilooser != more loose?
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07:52.12durcynthink of it as a abnormally long 'o'
07:52.15durcynan*
07:52.30durcynelaphantitis of the syllable, as it were
07:52.36NightHawkTheSaneRaydenUni: depends on how much you like adhering to traditional english definitions
07:53.47art3mishttp://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2007/07/2838.php
07:53.50ThraeThat is the least englishiest word I've ever seen!
07:53.53art3misthose kind of own
07:54.13NightHawkTheSaneThrae: you're the least englishiest word I've ever seen.
07:54.41NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: thats like four kinds of awesome.
07:54.45NightHawkTheSaneWell, four kinds, and a lizard.
07:57.25art3misWhat the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.
07:57.36art3misNightHawkTheSane: did you notice the villan line up?
07:57.43NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: yeah :P
07:57.57art3misits eviel got the evil(black)and racist R2
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07:58.45durcynblack lotus is the spawn of the devil.
07:58.52durcynevery single spawn point in azeroth, empty.
07:59.12NightHawkTheSaneagreed.
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08:01.19art3mishttp://no2google.wordpress.com/2007/06/24/life-at-google-the-microsoftie-perspective/
08:01.36art3misi find lots of it wandering around strathmore and plaguewood
08:02.30NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: i saw that a few days ago. It's interesting, but obviously a bit skewed and biased.
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08:07.40cryogenmm did mikk wake up yet?
08:07.51durcynmikk's dedad.
08:07.52durcyndead*
08:08.04nevcairielpoor mikk
08:08.27cryogenthat's.. unfortunate
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08:08.51cryogenoh well if he shows up and i dont notice him, someone let him know i did what he asked
08:09.01art3mishttp://kurogane.animeblogger.net/image/misc/kari.png <-- what makes her so  damn do-able
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08:10.13art3mishttp://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/lego-aircraft-carrier <-- best use of legos evah
08:10.28cryogenart3mis: well she's a nerd icon, which helps
08:16.26art3misyeah
08:16.40art3misand that body suit....mmmmmmmmmm
08:16.49art3mishttp://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381 last link
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08:34.33art3mishttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
08:34.45mitch0is table[nil] valid? or results in error?
08:37.03art3miswatch the video
08:37.08art3misits quite good
08:37.35FISKER_Qyou're quite good to
08:37.36FISKER_Qtoo
08:37.52art3misthanks baby, enzyet really helped~!
08:39.48RaydenUnitht star wars link is awesome
08:39.57art3miswhich one?
08:40.03art3misthe why we hate starwars?
08:40.08art3misor the keychains ;P
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08:40.48FISKER_Qdamn that must've taken some time to practice that speech art3mis :D
08:40.55art3misyeah
08:41.00art3misits well thoguht out though
08:41.06art3misand voiced well
08:41.44FISKER_Qdidn't even know what it was all about when she got released
08:42.01art3misscooter's a guy
08:42.19FISKER_QO_o
08:42.21art3misbut yeah to pardon him before the courts were done and even before the appeal is crazy
08:42.27FISKER_Qthought it was a she from the news here :P
08:42.33FISKER_Qdidn't even call him scooter here
08:43.27Roartindonmitch0: nil isn't a valid table index
08:43.42Roartindonmitch0: false is tho, if you need to lookup true/false things
08:43.44mitch0well, my lua interpreter didn't die on it
08:44.00Roartindon> a = { }
08:44.00Roartindon> a[nil] = 1
08:44.01Roartindonstdin:1: table index is nil
08:44.01Roartindonstack traceback:
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08:44.15ckknighthey all
08:44.17art3misi would love nothing more than to see bush and cheney get impeached
08:44.19ckknighthow's everyone doing?
08:44.22mitch0try b = a[nil], that worked for me
08:44.28mitch0I don't need to set it
08:44.29FISKER_Qfine
08:44.40art3misim thuper thankth for athking!
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08:47.20ckknightnot fond of the gay lisp
08:47.40art3misis that from the camping trip a while ago with yer "weird uncle" ?
08:47.54art3misand you don know what the reference is though right?
08:48.01art3miserr do
08:48.18art3misit's big gay al from southpark ;)
08:48.39Roartindonmitch0: Yeah, seems like that's valid (will always return nil), just can't use it to store anything
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08:49.56NightHawkTheSanewhee. Finally got my highlightlogger xchat plugin working properly. Go me.
08:51.25Dottedart3mis wow that video made me restore faith in the american people
08:52.23durcynor at least in msnbc's copywriters?
08:52.31art3misi know
08:52.38Dotteddunno
08:52.38art3misit seems odd to be on mmsnbc
08:52.44NightHawkTheSanewhat video?
08:52.46Dottedhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
08:53.07art3misbut im glad someone in the non-insnae ufo spotting media actually had the balls to say it
08:53.17art3misand didnt come off as a ranting retarded in doing so
08:53.44art3misNightHawkTheSane: xchat? in nix atm?
08:53.58art3misor win32
08:53.59CIA-2203vincent * r42722 10WeaponRebuff/ (18 files in 3 dirs):
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08:54.09NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: osx, actually. But it's just a perl script, so it should work on any platform that has perl
08:54.19art3misoh
08:54.29art3misi was gonna link ya openchat32 for win
08:54.34art3misits perttier
08:54.36NightHawkTheSanehehe
08:54.37NightHawkTheSanelink me anyway
08:54.47NightHawkTheSaneI use windows at work, and wouldn't mind a nice x-chat build
08:54.49art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/openchat32.rar
08:54.56art3misru it and then run gemz
08:54.56NightHawkTheSaneor any good irc client
08:54.58NightHawkTheSaneactually
08:55.08ckknightart3mis: I knew the reference, thought it was tawdry
08:55.17art3misits basically a windowed version of a good console client like scrollz or bitchx
08:55.26art3mistawdry?
08:55.33art3misdid you get word of the day toilet paper again?!
08:55.35art3mis;)
08:56.06ckknight...
08:56.09CIA-2203vincent * r42723 10WeaponRebuff/:
08:56.09CIA-22WeaponRebuff:
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08:56.10art3misheh
08:56.18art3mishave you had coffee yet?
08:57.11durcynyou're trying too hard.  relax.
08:57.11art3misdoesnt mac have a great irc client?
08:57.14NightHawkTheSanegahhhhh.. fuck you googlecode. "Your client does not have permission to get URL /upload/blahblah" wtf.. ><
08:57.24durcyncolloquy?  it's sufficien.t
08:57.26NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: yeah, several
08:57.36durcynswap that T around somewhere else, meh.
08:57.42Maldivianighthawn, silverex.org has x-chat windows builds
08:57.56NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: x-chat aqua, MacIrssi, Colloquey, any standard console client, or even any x-windows client if youfeel like running x11
08:57.56art3misxchat hurts kittens
08:58.14durcynxchat is fine.
08:58.19ilifinxchat kills kittens
08:58.20durcynanything that's not mirc is fine.
08:58.30ilifinxchat is worse than mirc
08:58.30JaxonColloquy lacks a lot of more advanced features.
08:58.33JaxonIts fine for just "chat"
08:58.34ilifin>:(
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08:58.40NightHawkTheSanex-chat aqua is (imo) the best native mac client out there. it's stupid good.
08:58.41art3misafter years of using scrollz using xchat makes me feel like i installed a 95 version of epic
08:58.47ilifinNightHawkTheSane, irssi
08:58.59JaxonOh boy do I love irssi
08:59.05art3misbut yeah irssi is nice
08:59.16art3miseven has some decent "themes"
08:59.19NightHawkTheSaneyeah, MacIrssi being the only other thing that compets, honestly
08:59.26NightHawkTheSanes/ts/tes/
09:00.06art3misi like the console look betterthan windowed userlilsts and such
09:00.26ilifinsame, macirssi is thus ugly
09:01.00NightHawkTheSaneI like the console look a bit better too, but I like all the toys that a native mac gui brings. ;)
09:01.13art3misheh
09:01.36NightHawkTheSaneand by that, i mean mainly built in spell checking and dictionary auto-complete.
09:01.47art3misyeah that i dont need so much
09:02.16art3miswell correction, i DO need it, but don't really care enough if my spelling is wrong
09:02.20NightHawkTheSanehehe
09:02.38NightHawkTheSaneThe implementation is so slick and I care enough to make it really worth it, to me.
09:02.49art3mispidgin does that for my
09:02.50durcyntypos are value-additions to keep the readers and self-appointed editors minds and egos sharpened
09:02.54art3misi find it creepy
09:04.27art3miswell i thinkk its last smork and then off to bed, lunesta is finally kicking in
09:04.56NightHawkTheSanedammit, stop sending me ctcp PAGE_LEFT_INTENTIONALLY_BLANKs! :P
09:05.13art3misand btw that pun on xkcd is awesome!
09:05.28art3misspecially for the hover over
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09:05.39CIA-22- More quest items
09:06.00NightHawkTheSanexkcd is always awesome
09:06.10art3misso what changed in the major version numbers for periodic?
09:06.24durcynthe version numbers.
09:06.34kbhso what mod is it thats flashing my screen border when i'm close to getting aggro
09:06.34art3misstill the same crap though inside it right?
09:06.39NightHawkTheSanekbh: omen
09:06.42Jaxonkbh: probably Omen?
09:06.50NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: you mean from 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0?
09:06.52art3misthere's a few but most likely omen
09:06.56art3misNightHawkTheSane: yeah
09:07.10kbhfigured it would be omen or pitbull
09:07.20NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: largely what changed is organization/layout of the data. For obvious reasons later sets tend to be supersets of previous major versions
09:07.23durcynBanzaiAlert flashes the LowHealthFrame when you -gain- aggro
09:07.36art3misahh thats what i thought
09:07.52art3misi bet thats one huge nasty set of tables
09:08.34NightHawkTheSaneEh, its not that bad. It's fairly well laid out and designed at this point, but yes, it is quite huge. ;) Which is why it's broken down into half a dozen or so modules
09:08.47art3misheh
09:09.01kbhhave to add the flag cap sound to the warning sound list like ct used to do
09:09.29art3misi was wondering why it didnt just "group" based on typ instead of naming each one. since blizz does name it
09:10.09art3mishehe mazzle actually had the whole screen bored about 2 inches from the edge flash red
09:10.12JaxonI need something to keep track of my daily quests.
09:10.15art3mislike when you were about to die in quake
09:10.33durcynJaxon: the counter in the default quest log works pretty well
09:10.40durcynart3mis: that is LowHealthFrame.
09:10.49art3misoh
09:10.51Jaxondurcyn: specifically, which ones I've done and which I haven't.
09:10.52art3misneat
09:11.01art3misactually that would be a nice addon
09:11.04art3misgo make it
09:11.18durcyneh?
09:11.26art3misthat JUST lists yer dailys
09:11.30art3misand nothing else
09:11.31JaxonYeah, but then I'd have to get familiar with the WoW API and also, Lua.
09:11.47art3misseperate from the main quest logging n stuff
09:12.03durcynsounds more like a pain in the ass.
09:12.12art3miskind of but still handy
09:12.19durcynis it really that hard to remember what you did in a 24 hour period?
09:12.28Jaxondurcyn: between two characters, yes.
09:12.29art3misits more a case of remembering to do them ;P
09:12.34art3misfor me anyways
09:12.47durcynfex, i two box BEM, then i two box Skettis, then I go solo netherwing, it's boring but memorable :/
09:13.09durcynoh, hrm.  that might work
09:13.25durcyncould snag an existing quest tracker and whitelist dailies, then reset at 3AM
09:13.32art3misndos
09:13.37art3misand just pop a little box
09:14.00durcynhowever in the context of this particular moment in time, laziness prevails
09:14.14art3mislethargy always prevails
09:14.20CIA-2203roartindon * r42725 10Aloft/Options/Modules/Alpha.lua: Aloft: Fixed typo in alpha options
09:14.43art3misit may take a bit of time getting to you as it's pretty un motiviated but.....
09:15.05JaxonI suppose I could dual box the Skettis and BEM ones, but that'd be a pain, only my main has the epic flyer.
09:15.30art3misso use the slow flyer ;P
09:15.36durcynJaxon: yeah, same.  i just set a /cast [focustarget] frostbolt macro and run around on foot for most of it
09:15.38kbhwhen grouped, most will give credit for both when doing on one toon
09:15.38art3misitll go faster dualing anways
09:15.48durcynyou're on the ground in  BEM most of them anyway
09:16.39CIA-2203roartindon * r42726 10Assessment/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
09:16.39CIA-22Assessment
09:16.39CIA-22- Shortcut a couple of table lookups on many keys
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09:22.11Adirellemorning
09:23.58NightHawkTheSaneHoly crapsticks, it's 2:30 am?!?
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09:25.35Soleno its 9:30pm
09:26.13ckknightno, it's 11:25 PM
09:26.14ckknightgah
09:26.23ckknight:-P
09:26.30CIA-2203nargiddley * r42727 10Baggins/Baggins-Filtering.lua: Baggins: Add Gem Bag to item types
09:26.34durcynwtfhwaii?
09:26.38durcynhawaii even
09:26.39Nargiddley9:26pm!
09:26.44ckknightlol, yea, durcyn
09:27.05[Ammo]11:25 am!
09:27.34Sole9:27pm!
09:27.45SoleNargiddley: where are you from?
09:27.57NargiddleyWellington
09:28.16SoleAuckland
09:28.54durcynkiwi infestation, i see.
09:29.08Soletoday is a bit of a sad kiwi day :(
09:29.22Solewe got beat by 1 second!
09:29.24Solefucking penalty
09:29.25Nargiddleyyep :/
09:29.38Solea score of 4-3 is quite promising
09:29.52ckknightSole: All Blacks?
09:29.54Soleconsidering we shouldve won the last 2 races before that
09:29.57Soleckknight: America's cup
09:30.01ckknightah
09:30.08ckknight:-P
09:30.11ckknightno wonder
09:30.18ckknightmy dad would've mentioned an All Blacks loss
09:30.23ckknighthe's a kiwi
09:31.17Healthwtf is a kiwi?
09:31.26durcynnew zealander
09:31.31HealthI see.
09:31.32Soleckknight: But the AB's lost as well last week. First loss in forever.
09:31.35HealthNot the fruit.
09:31.44durcynoh, they're a fruity bunch.
09:31.46ckknightSole: yea, he had mentioned that
09:31.53ckknightHealth: not the bird either.
09:32.09SoleIm still confident we're going away with the world cup this year though
09:32.38ckknighthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_(disambiguation)
09:33.57CIA-2203roartindon * r42728 10Assessment/Assessment.lua: Assessment - Fixed iterator...
09:34.18winkillerhehe
09:34.37Soleour only real competition will be the springboks and australia for the world cup
09:34.46Soletheyre decent teams but not decent enough
09:37.13ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdUUx5FdySs <-- Kiwi
09:39.53Fisker-oh u
09:39.59DottedNO U
09:40.20Fisker-:(
09:41.00Fisker-i thought we were friends
09:41.29Dottedahahahaha
09:41.35Dottednobody likes you
09:41.42Fisker-:(
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09:43.31SoleI like you Fisker
09:43.37SoleI dont like you Dotted
09:43.49Neebler<3
09:43.51SoleHA! RUINED YOUR PLAN
09:44.25Solewhat now e-bully?
09:44.35Dottedyou lied
09:44.46Solehow
09:45.04Dottedyou secretly love me
09:45.21ckknightin the most homosexual way possible.
09:45.27Dottedidd
09:45.38Soleits true
09:45.44ZiconJust make sure to wear protection, and you'll be ok.
09:45.54durcynit only hurts the first time
09:46.00Solenot if you have lube
09:46.19Solethe fist did hurt though, even with lube
09:47.02Dottedfisting is no fun
09:47.15Soleno pleasure in it, just pain
09:47.26ckknightpain = pleasure, though.
09:47.26durcynwell, this conversation just took a turn.
09:47.29ckknightat least for me
09:47.33ckknightwell, at least, giving it
09:47.38Solehaha
09:47.40ckknightreceiving it isn't so fun
09:47.45ckknightdepending
09:47.49Soleyeah recieving is no fun at all
09:47.54ckknight<--- sadist
09:47.55Soleespecially if it goes WAY up there
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09:49.49Dottedmy jumping pirate is kewl
09:50.13Solemy $10-a-week thai hooker is cooler
09:50.21ckknightkathoey?
09:50.46Sole^ hur?
09:50.46durcyn"Bruce" was it?
09:52.49Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=299064454&postId=2986690893&sid=1#3 <-damn he didn't upgrade my ram :(
09:52.51Dottedhttp://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6051/piratevx5.png
09:54.10ckknightSole: kathoey is what you call a thai ladyboy
09:54.20Soleckknight: oh them
09:55.07SoleDotted: thats a cool as hell priate
09:55.28CIA-2203nargiddley * r42729 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Sort by quality now sorts best -> worst instead of worse -> best
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09:57.12DottedSole http://www.razor1911.com/demo/prods/Keygen%20Template%202007%20(2007)(Razor%201911)(Win32)(Keygen).zip
09:57.16Solelol Bruce Bruce is hilarious
09:57.22SoleOK
09:57.32Dottedyes it legal keygen stuff is borked
09:57.41SoleIM GONNA OPEN SOMETHING A FUCKED UP FILENAME LIKE THAT
09:57.58Dottedkk
09:58.08Dottedhttp://www.razor1911.com/demo/index.php?menu=products&platform=win32
09:58.14Dottedand scroll down
10:01.00Fisker-i like the second one better
10:01.14Dottedmeh
10:01.21Dottedpirate is kewler imo
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10:01.39Fisker-no u
10:02.15Dottedmy my phone is playing danish wheel of fortune intro :/
10:04.46Fisker-your phone sucks then
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10:10.29DottedFisker- http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=1156&sid=1 and still going strong
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10:10.59Fisker-http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=1724 <-i see, not only the customers are stupid
10:11.40Fisker-"OH hai lets waste 1 million $ on a domain we can reclaim through ICANN"
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10:15.05DottedFisker- how can they reclaim it when the domain was bought in 1995?
10:16.36Fisker-It was not in use
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10:16.45Fisker-He claims "he was going to use it"
10:16.56Fisker-Which means it has been sitting idle since
10:17.08Fisker-Which also means they can use their own productname to resecure the name
10:17.19Dottedaight
10:18.15durcyn<PROTECTED>
10:18.55Fisker-Don't know
10:19.02Fisker-I think in Denmark that person would've been raped
10:19.11durcynicann isn't danish
10:19.15Fisker-i know
10:19.25Fisker-But i'd guess that it's the same in ICANN or somewhat atleast
10:19.28Dottedits part danish :p
10:19.50Fisker-If the domain isn't actively used, then all he deserves is his expenses paid in the transfer
10:19.53durcynnah, they have their own arbitration rules
10:20.13durcynin obvious cases of squatting, they usually side with whoever has more money
10:20.16durcynbut he's had the domain for 12 years
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10:26.55V^What mod do you guys use to open all your mail at oncee?
10:27.03V^Postal and Openall just, dont open them all
10:27.26cryogenopenall works fine for me
10:27.44V^for openall I click it and.. nothing happens
10:28.01cryogenthen you fail!
10:28.12V^or it does
10:28.15cryogenthat happened to me once, but i updated and it worked fine
10:28.29V^:/
10:28.42CIA-2203gandharva * r42730 10Mendeleev/locales/ (deDE.lua esES.lua frFR.lua):
10:28.42CIA-22Mendeleev:
10:28.42CIA-22- fixed frFR error
10:28.42CIA-22- fixed potential esES error
10:28.42CIA-22- deDE localization
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10:33.20MikkPostal changed from doing the stupid thing (opening the beginning of the list first) to the smart thing (open the end of the list first) and now it seems to work better
10:33.25MikkNot very surprisingly
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10:34.19Bam__ckknight_: ping :)
10:34.30Mikk~seen ckknight_
10:34.32purlckknight_ is currently on #wowi-lounge (11m 50s) #norganna (11m 50s) #wowace (11m 50s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 15h 5m 47s, last said: '[Liquidor]: pong'.
10:34.52Bam__hmm he doesnt usually have that underscore in his name...
10:35.12CIA-2203toadkiller * r42731 10AutoBar/Style.lua:
10:35.12CIA-22AutoBar:
10:35.12CIA-22-- Fix Style for use with cyCircled .. again. This should actuall do it
10:35.38V^Mikk mine and my friends, even though latest version, usually misses 20% of the mail
10:35.42V^so we have to keep clicking it
10:36.21V^The screenshot for Postal in the wowace wiki has "Mass mail"
10:36.28V^Mine doesnt :|
10:36.41ckknightBam__: hrm?
10:37.10Bam__ckknight: I was wondering about CowTip.. do you plan to extend it beyond primarily unit tooltips?
10:37.25Bam__in particular I was thinking about item tooltips
10:37.27ckknightwell, the ability is there
10:37.38V^could it possibly server lag that stops it opening all the mail?
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10:38.18Bam__ok.. I am about to do some changes to my ItemPriceTooltip and then it hit me that perhaps CowTip could simply replace it completely
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10:38.37ckknightIbah
10:38.39ckknightbah*
10:38.41ckknightBam__: the ability is there
10:38.43ckknightyou just make a module
10:38.45ckknightand have an :OnTooltipSetItem method
10:38.50ckknightand it'll be called whenever an item is on the GameTooltip
10:39.02ckknightif you make a module, I'd have no issue including it
10:39.08Bam__problem is that it will also need item count
10:39.26ckknightBam__: there's a blizz API for that.
10:39.33Bam__eh?
10:39.38ckknightoh
10:39.38ckknightwait
10:39.41ckknightfor the current item on the tooltip?
10:39.42ckknighthrm
10:39.44ckknightyea...
10:39.44Bam__yes
10:39.49ckknightdunno about that
10:39.56Bam__I believe you still need to do hooking to get that
10:40.05ckknighthooking what?
10:40.14Bam__the GameTooltip:SetXXX methods
10:40.31Bam__to know where the item really came from
10:41.24ckknighthrm
10:41.27ckknightdoable, albeit icky
10:41.51Bam__well I will look into it... I think some users of my addon like that it is very simplistic.. but others have asked for customization so I figured CowTip could be the way... but I'm not sure
10:42.19MikkV^: Postal has mass mail. It doesn't have a mass mail window. You just put in a sender in the send window, and then alt+click stuff in your inventory.
10:42.52Fisker-now your thinking with postals
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10:43.01Fisker-btw Mikk why are you talking to a person who left?
10:43.02Fisker-:O
10:43.04cryogenMikk: hai
10:43.09MikkOh duh
10:43.17[Ammo]blargh
10:43.20cryogeni carried out the request you made, FYI
10:43.28Mikkoh, cheers. i'll forward it.
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11:09.13CIA-2203sayclub * r42732 10RangeDisplay/localization-koKR.lua: RangeDisplay: Added translation koKR
11:10.04mitch0woohoo! thanks :)
11:18.31Fisker-oh hai
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11:25.55Soleyo homies
11:26.04SoleIm curious - is there a decent character planner around?
11:26.15Pheredhelanyone any idea how to implement "conditional tags" in an fast and easy was? (i.e. [if[condition]=blubb] prints blubb if [condition] is true
11:26.44Pheredhelnot about the evaluation of [condition] but rather handling nestet if statements without implementing an interpreter
11:27.06[Ammo]you're describing dogtag
11:27.09mitch0:)
11:27.36Pheredhelok, that sounds like a good way :)
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11:34.07Wobin_=(
11:34.08Wobin_http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/over-the-hill-boots-the-sax-dies/2007/07/04/1183351263824.html
11:34.52Pheredhelif I'm right , I cant define own tags to use with dogTag, right?
11:35.34SoleWobin_: I dont know that guy. But I was sad when James Brown died :(
11:36.04Wobin_YakkitySax was the best tune ever
11:36.16Wobin_Someone needs to use it in a raiding video
11:36.40kebinusanA lil music to send him off by : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMO8Pyi3UpY
11:37.21kebinusanA guy in my guild used to always play Yakety Sax when we were doing AOE clears through fankriss' tunnel
11:37.30kebinusanalways made me laugh
11:39.14Boubouilleis it possible to "reset" the armor showroom with a script command ?
11:43.11Fisker-yakety sax = benny hill theme right?
11:43.22Fisker-I used to play that during wipes :P
11:43.30vhaarrBoubouille: yes
11:44.29vhaarrBoubouille: /script DressUpModel:Dress()
11:44.33vhaarrI think that should do it
11:45.00Solegerman porn is funny
11:45.01ccKepatleast the reset button does it that way
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11:47.38sbu#api DressUpModel
11:47.39ThraeBotCould not find anything relevant, sbu
11:47.41sbuhmpf :p
11:47.58ckknightanybody seen Die Hard 4?
11:48.00ckknightso absurd
11:48.25Fisker-mac guy was in it
11:48.28Fisker-so no!
11:49.41Soleis it any good ck?
11:49.56ckknightentertaining.
11:49.57ckknightbut absurd
11:50.05Solewhy absurd?
11:50.11evlckknight: It's nice
11:50.17Solethe trailer said something about hacking or something
11:50.21ckknightyea
11:50.24Soleso Im guessing that aspect of it was bullshit
11:50.25evlckknight: Why make it fancy when you can have pedal-to-the-metal action from start to finish :P
11:50.35ckknightcomputer hackers
11:50.35ckknightin movies.
11:50.44ckknightSole: that's most of the movie.
11:51.07evlnice UI changes in PTR?
11:51.07ckknight"I gotta call the warlock, he's like a digital jedi"
11:51.17Soleseriously/
11:51.23ckknightyes
11:51.26Solethey make us out to be fags or something
11:51.27ckknightas I said, absurd
11:51.33evlckknight: I asked yesterday BTW; can you make an option to adjust padding between bars? Currently it's fixed at 1px or so
11:51.38CIA-2203gandharva * r42733 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
11:51.38CIA-22Babble-2.2:
11:51.38CIA-22- added "Shade of Akama" to BB
11:51.43evlckknight: that's concerning PB :)
11:51.56ckknightevl: oh, no, you can't
11:52.16evlckknight: Where is it specified? I'd like to hack it myself then
11:52.17Fisker-i remember that harrison ford movie
11:52.18Fisker-revently
11:52.26Fisker-recently*
11:52.27ckknightevl: in MetaLayout
11:52.30Fisker-That was funny as well
11:52.46Fisker-"zomg security", and the guy didn't even lock his windows box when he left
11:52.47Fisker-duh
11:52.58SoleFirewall?
11:53.03Fisker-yeah i think that was it
11:53.10evlckknight: frame[id]:SetPoint("TOP", frame[bestAttach], "BOTTOM", 0, -1) + frame[id]:SetHeight(height - 1) = padding?
11:53.16ckknightyep.
11:53.18Solethats the only harrison ford movie concerning hacking :P
11:53.22evlckknight: thanks :)
11:53.22Fisker-Was pretty funny that the scene where he "secured the bank" from some hackers he actually used a cisco router interface
11:53.30Fisker-albeit just a stupid ip-block that was macroed
11:53.39Solelol
11:54.37SoleIm ashamed to say it but precision covers the 5% special attack miss rate of rogues, correct?
11:54.43evlSole: yes
11:54.45Soleok
11:54.54CIA-2203gandharva * r42734 10Mendeleev/Set_Instances_61-70.lua:
11:54.54CIA-22Mendeleev:
11:54.54CIA-22- added Black Temple Loot
11:54.59evlSole: http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12855
11:55.02Soleits embarassing, Ive been a rogue since beta and I never checked that
11:55.02evlSole: Holy grail :D
11:55.09CIA-2203mitchell * r42735 10RangeDisplay/ (10 files): RangeDisplay: font selection, color setting, DefaultDB corruption fix, and probly a lot of mess [drycoded]
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11:56.23Soleevl: indeed
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11:56.28Soleevl: but I dont raid anymore :P
11:56.39evlSole: What spec are you
11:56.46Soleevl: 30/0/31
11:56.56evlSole: aha, then precision doesn't matter :P
11:57.02Soleplanning to pick up a merciless mace and go combat :P
11:57.09Soleor maybe hemo, I'll test both
11:57.26evlSole: you don't go combat tree without DW spec, it's the sickest dps increase evar
11:57.35evlSole: 900 shiv crits with 1.4, kekekekekekekek
11:57.48Soleevl: when did I say I wouldnt get DW spec?
11:57.53Fisker-did shiv live up to the dps expectations?
11:57.56evlno
11:58.03Pheredhelwhat would you say is the better solution: writing a parser for dogtag style tags, or just let the user set 3 diffent texts for the 3 possible outputs ?
11:58.06evlcombat swords > combat daggers > mutilate
11:58.14Solecombat maces - pvp
11:58.18Fisker-that's a shame
11:58.21Wobin_DW spec?
11:58.25evlI don't get Blizzard, they fucked combat daggers AGAIN cause of the swords change.
11:58.25Fisker-shiv had great potential for sick dps
11:58.38Fisker-Especially now that poisons are unlimited within the 30 minutes :)
11:58.45mitch0phered: there is also tagcompiler or somesuch, check that, too, maybe it does what you need (just shooting around at random)
11:58.56SoleI like the poison change
11:59.01Wobin_oh yeah
11:59.10Solewhen I was mutilate my deadly would run out ever 10-12 minutes
11:59.25evlmutilate is too random for my tastes in pvp
11:59.32Soleyeah thats why I switched
11:59.33evlbam, dispel poison, you just spent 60 energy doing 400 damage
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11:59.52Solewith mutilate I feel like Im tickling plate
11:59.53evl30/0/31 is truly an adventure to learn how to master
11:59.59Soleoh yeah
12:00.02SoleI love this spec
12:00.07Soleso much versatility
12:00.08evlme too, it's the only pvp spec for me :)
12:00.15evland so much neat stuff, like dirty tricks :D
12:00.20evl9 yard sap lolololol :D
12:00.23Soleunfortunately its not that hot for 5v5
12:00.31Soleits alright, but it fizzles
12:00.35evlunfortunately rogues are not that hot for 5v5...
12:00.41Soleindeed
12:00.42evlinfact they suck ass
12:00.43evltwice
12:00.45Soleindeed
12:00.49Pheredhelproblem: tagcompiler seems not to support conditions, dogTag only allows predefined tags (if I'm correct)
12:00.53Solethey dont just suck ass twice
12:00.59evlWhat is this TagCompiler?
12:00.59Gngskkergoth, ping
12:01.08MikkSole: eya. what name did you end up picking for your lock?
12:01.11Solethey give a big black guy called tarique a rimjob
12:01.15SoleMikk: Scavo
12:01.29Soledunno if I can be bothered playing her to 70
12:01.31Gngskevl, you're familiar with the combo points stuff in pitbull right?
12:01.36evlI enjoy rogue for PVE but warrior seems to be the king of pvp if you ask me
12:01.43SoleMikk: you dont want to know
12:01.44evlGngsk: Yeah I made some patches for it back in the day
12:01.48Mikkhaha ok
12:01.56SoleMikk: Desperate Housewives was on
12:02.01Mikkhahahahahaha
12:02.05SoleMikk: last name of one of the housewives is Scavo
12:02.08Gngskevl, could you make a patch so that it the number turns green when you have deadly poison stacked?
12:02.09Mikkaye i know
12:02.20evlGngsk: I think you can do that with dogtag
12:02.22Pheredhelok, maybe it does, it's just not in the documentation ..
12:02.39SoleI like my rogue for 2v2 and 3v3 arenas
12:02.52evlckknight: MetaLayout is required now? as in I can't code my own?
12:02.53SoleI played a bit in a 2300+ 2v2 team back in season 1 for a few weeks
12:03.04Soleunfortunately my team mates decided to play an insane ammount of games
12:03.05ckknightevl: right
12:03.10Soleso I never got my 30% played
12:03.19Solewouldve been nice to get those points
12:03.38evlckknight: Only one annoynce is that when you use frame-outsideLeft etc you can't really control how much X or Y offset you will use
12:03.59ckknight*shrug*
12:04.22evlthere's only variations of ABF and not the customizability you had with coded layouts imho
12:04.33Solewow I just found a rogue with very impressive stats - 11k hp, 396 res (omg for a rogue), 1300ap, 27.8% crit
12:04.38Solewow Im gonna copy his gear
12:04.51Gngsksole, link?
12:04.53evl396? fucking hell :D
12:04.58Solehttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Black+Dragonflight&n=Yecal
12:05.03Sole396 for a rogue is quite huge
12:05.11Solehes a good rogue Im guessing
12:05.22Soleplays with Happyminti, Dahis and crew
12:05.25evlmega huge
12:05.27Solethose guys I respect
12:05.36evlBut sadly he can't be dealing much damage
12:05.45Neeblerthat's my server!
12:05.47evl... again compared to an MS warrior with comparable gear.
12:05.51Sole1300AP, 27.8% crit
12:05.54Soleyeah well
12:05.58Solewarriors can fuck off
12:06.00evlwarrior > rogue for 5v5
12:06.03evland probably 3v3
12:06.09Soleehh yeah
12:06.15Solebut rogues still stand a chance
12:06.19Solejust gotta have the right team set up
12:06.31Soleand you have to play your ass OFF
12:06.31evlCharge priest -> ms -> whirlwind = half your teams hp is gone.
12:06.31Solecompared to a warrior
12:06.39Solepretty much
12:06.53Solerogue you really have to know what youre doing
12:07.04Wobin_#char us Black Dragonflight yecal
12:07.05Soleand you have to play almost flawlessly at the high end
12:07.06ThraeBotWobin_: Yecal, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (18/43/0). 11074 HP; 755 Sta; 433 Agi; 3258 Armour; 22.06% dodge; +396 resilience; 1291 AP; 1139 RAP; +27.8% melee crit. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Black Dragonflight&n=yecal
12:07.19evl#char Kazzak Surly
12:07.25evlaw :/
12:07.33Wobin_locality
12:07.36Wobin_us or eu
12:07.38evloh sorry
12:07.42evl#char eu Kazzak Surly
12:07.44ThraeBotevl: Surly, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (15/41/5). 8564 HP; 504 Sta; 510 Agi; 3136 Armour; 26.91% dodge; +50 resilience; 1584 AP; 1428 RAP; +31.14% melee crit. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Surly
12:08.04Solehm
12:08.06[Ammo]#char eu Kazzak Ammo
12:08.07ThraeBot[Ammo]: Ammo, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (37/3/21). 9820 HP; 9475 Mana; 636 Sta; 476 Int; 139 Spi; 1337 Armour; 4.47% dodge; +6.02% spell hit; +97 spell crit rating; 962 +spell dmg; 862 +heal; +51 shadow dmg (1013). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Ammo
12:08.11SoleYecal is still using 5/5 season 1 glad gear
12:08.27Soleupgrading to 3/5 s2  would push him even further
12:09.16Gngskckknight, how does HasAura() handle debuffs that stack?
12:09.29Gngskoh, nvm
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12:12.00ckknightseeing as I have no idea what you're specifically referring to, the cat is both dead and not dead.
12:12.54mitch0#char eu Bloodscalp Mitchell
12:12.56ThraeBotmitch0: Mitchell, Level 70 Human Mage (0/0/61). 6843 HP; 7361 Mana; 363 Sta; 360 Int; 185 Spi; 1140 Armour; 5.02% dodge; +18 resilience; +8.56% spell hit; +194 spell crit rating; 796 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (975); +179 shadow dmg (975). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodscalp&n=Mitchell
12:13.06Gngskwell, I want my combo point text to turn green if my target has deadly poison charges equal or greater than the number of combo points on it
12:13.13mitch0heh, nice bot
12:13.15liquiem#char eu frostwolf qler
12:13.18ThraeBotliquiem: Qler, Level 70 Troll Priest (14/0/47). 9161 HP; 9495 Mana; 595 Sta; 477 Int; 295 Spi; 3492 Armour; 54 mp5; 5.78% dodge; +11.41% spell hit; +91 spell crit rating; 964 +spell dmg/heal; +161 frost dmg (1125); +371 shadow dmg (1335). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=frostwolf&n=qler
12:13.33mitch0kills the discussion a bit though :)
12:13.48Sole#char us blackrock sole
12:13.48MoonWolf#char EU Defias Brotherhood Xesyto
12:13.50ThraeBotSole: Sole, Level 70 Undead Rogue (30/0/31). 9594 HP; 607 Sta; 334 Agi; 2709 Armour; 16.11% dodge; +68 resilience; 1234 AP; 1080 RAP; +21.28% melee crit. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=blackrock&n=sole
12:13.53ThraeBotMoonWolf: Xesyto, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (11/43/7). 7184 HP; 136 Str; 366 Sta; 413 Agi; 2506 Armour; 22.43% dodge; +19 resilience; 1255 AP; 1059 RAP; +21.89% melee crit. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Defias Brotherhood&n=Xesyto
12:13.58Soleman my stats suck
12:14.20Solenecessary sacrifice for [Goblin Rocket Launcher]
12:14.26Sole<3 that item
12:14.36Soleits actually won me a couple of matches
12:14.42Solebecause it doesnt put you into combat
12:16.07Moltarain#char eu Talnivarr Moltarain
12:16.09ThraeBotMoltarain: Moltarain, Level 70 Undead Priest (21/40/0). 5071 HP; 8085 Mana; 186 Sta; 383 Int; 375 Spi; 1146 Armour; 134 mp5; 4.9% dodge; +4.9% ranged crit; 105 +spell dmg; 1536 +heal. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Talnivarr&n=Moltarain
12:18.29Gngskckknight, so HasAura(arg) just returns arg, but I guess what I need is some variant that will return the number of stacks of the debuff
12:19.24Boubouillevhaarr : works, thanks :p
12:21.43Fisker-oh hi
12:21.55BoubouilleFisker- can't code.
12:21.56Boubouillelol !
12:22.19Fisker-can too
12:22.21Fisker-i can lolcode
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12:22.31CIA-2203sayclub * r42736 10RangeDisplay/localization-koKR.lua: RangeDisplay: koKR localization updated
12:22.49Boubouilleyou cannot !
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12:23.14Fisker-of course i can
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12:26.34Fisker-oh lol
12:26.49Fisker-goldfarmers are now creating corpses of themselves to advertise for their sites
12:27.17liquiemscreen?
12:27.25mitch0what, they have the site in their name or what?
12:27.28Fisker-they were removed
12:27.31Fisker-yeah
12:27.47mitch0or a lot of them die in formation? :)
12:27.52Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=116362212&sid=1&pageNo=1
12:27.58Fisker-something like that
12:28.07Fisker-and they make up a sentence advertising for their gold site :P
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12:34.21sbuMoltarain: 21/40? mhh
12:34.31Wobin_Holy =)
12:34.37sbui know ;p
12:35.09liquiemFisker-, get some screenshots please
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12:39.04Mikkthe most interesting question is how the hell they're getting all those accounts
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12:39.14Mikkthen again they don't really need lots of accounts do they
12:39.18Mikkjust leave skeletons
12:40.27odt#char eu Al'Akir Odt
12:40.29ThraeBotodt: Odt, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 7487 HP; 10333 Mana; 135 Str; 429 Sta; 504 Int; 138 Spi; 10017 Armour; 99 mp5; 4.09% dodge; 5% block; +92 spell crit rating; 201 +spell dmg; 1235 +heal. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'Akir&n=Odt
12:40.40Matrix110#chat eu Kazzak Erestor
12:40.46Matrix110#char eu Kazzak Erestor
12:40.48ThraeBotMatrix110: Erestor, Level 70 Human Mage (8/0/53). 7463 HP; 7646 Mana; 425 Sta; 379 Int; 209 Spi; 1258 Armour; 5.26% dodge; +40 resilience; +7.53% spell hit; +216 spell crit rating; 853 +spell dmg/heal; +233 frost dmg (1086); +233 shadow dmg (1086). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Erestor
12:40.49odthmm, even the apostrophe didnt kill it
12:41.24HjalteDoes hit rating help keep a sheep sheeped?
12:41.24BankZwhats up dudes
12:41.32Fisker-Mikk you can just create trial accounts
12:41.47Fisker-To be honest they should just go google on our asses
12:41.48Mikkyou don't need invites from real accounts from that?
12:41.52Fisker-nope
12:41.57Fisker-And make it like you just said
12:42.01Fisker-Invites from real accounts
12:42.23Fisker-If goldfarmers are invited from a real account, blizzard ban the trial account and the sourc
12:42.27Mikkhrmz.. well, that's more or less development-during-downtime problems solved
12:42.27Fisker-source*
12:42.49Mikkjust go to the other continent and make a trial
12:43.07BankZjust dont let anyone in China play wow
12:43.10BankZ:/
12:43.29Mikkthat'd cut down on the problem yeah, but it'd hardly kill it
12:43.45Mikkc.f. the #1 e-mail spammers in the world living in the US
12:43.56Fisker-well proxy + not living in china kills that idea :P
12:43.59BankZit was a joke :/
12:44.11Fisker-NO U
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12:46.15Necrathexpwnd
12:46.42Pheredhelsomeone here who can tell me what    string.gsub("[iftrue=[testtext[iftrue=[testtext[blubb]test]test]]","%[iffalse=(%b[])%]")  returns ? (dont have access to WoW right now)
12:46.58Mikk<PROTECTED>
12:47.16Mikkor just download lua binaries
12:47.34Mikkoh wait... that's tag stuff.. nvm me
12:48.13krka> =string.gsub("[iftrue=[testtext[iftrue=[testtext[blubb]test]test]]","%[iffalse=(%b[])%]")
12:48.17krka[iftrue=[testtext[iftrue=[testtext[blubb]test]test]]    0
12:48.25Pheredhelhmm, compiling lua while not having external powersupply... not that great idea
12:48.54Pheredhelarg my fault
12:49.35Pheredhelhow can i use the lua bot ?
12:49.54Mikk> print("whoot")
12:50.08Mikk> ="whoot"
12:50.16Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=299064240&sid=1 <-haha, oh wow
12:50.32Pheredhelthanks
12:50.32Fisker-I am lvl 70 and i dont have felhunter minion.
12:50.35Fisker-I almost cracked up
12:52.30BankZdamn, the armory is so slow
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12:54.04ckknightlua> print("test")
12:54.04ckknightah, the bot's not in
12:54.24Mikk#luabot
12:54.32sbuPheredhel: CCBreaker not working correctly with deDE
12:54.46ccKep/cast [target=targettarget,harm,nodead] [target=target,harm,nodead] Intervene <<<< that should work, shouldn't it?
12:54.55sbui think it doesnt capture 'special' abilities... works for normal hits
12:55.29Pheredhelhmm, have to test this, it worked for me, last time i tested it
12:55.44sbuhmm didnt work in SSC yesterday
12:55.44MikkccKep: what do you imagine that [target=target] does?
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12:55.51sbui had like ~20 entries in there
12:55.56sbumy MT with deDE only 3
12:56.15ccKepjust used to the syntax @ Mikk
12:56.16Pheredhelok, i will check it
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12:56.26ccKep/cast [target=targettarget,harm,nodead] [harm,nodead] Intervene
12:56.28ccKepis enough?
12:56.37Mikkactually nvm me
12:56.38sbuoh hm
12:56.55sbuPheredhel: it doesnt have any deDE localization? :o
12:57.36Pheredhelit doesn't have any localization at all right now (except for the default enUS one)
12:58.18sbumh so it wont work with other locales than EN?
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12:59.08Pheredhelit should work with them, just the display will be somewhat strange
12:59.22sbuah okay
12:59.23Pheredheli.e. the spellnames will be the only thing translated
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13:03.04CIA-2203gagorian * r42737 10DrDamage/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
13:03.04CIA-22DrDamage:
13:03.04CIA-22- More work on melee module, damage text on actionbar -should- appear on rogues. Don't expect it to be correct, though.
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13:08.27krkawhat Mikk?
13:08.58Mikkkrka: i thought you were running a luabot but i guess you were just copypasting from somewhere else
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13:13.34CIA-2203gagorian * r42738 10DrDamage/ (Data/Rogue.lua Melee.lua):
13:13.34CIA-22DrDamage:
13:13.34CIA-22- Weapon type check for backstab/ambush
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13:24.25CIA-2203mitchell * r42739 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.xml: RangeDisplay: got rid of the crud
13:26.41mitch0I'd kindly ask anyone with a bit of spare time to translate some strings in RangeDisplay/localization-{deDE,esES,frFR,zhCN,zhTW}.lua. Thanks in advance :)
13:30.56liquiemalternative to moveanything?
13:31.10mitch0movenothing!
13:31.12MoonWolfmitch0, getting translations isn't somehing you have to ask for
13:31.15cryogenfluidframes
13:31.29MoonWolfone day i woke up and my mod had chinese and korean translations
13:31.34MoonWolfout of nothing.
13:32.27mitch0yeah, I got krKR, too (which I'm very thankful for, given that the addon is not even released officially :), but I thought a bit of nudging could not hurt :)
13:35.33[Ammo]MoonWolf: one day I woke up and my mods were destroyed, but had dual translations for koKR
13:35.36Fisker-btw
13:35.38Fisker-screenshot for teh ads
13:35.39Fisker-http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/07/insideradbig.jpg
13:35.40[Ammo]it was then that I realized korea should be nuked
13:35.44Fisker-was formation O_o
13:35.52MoonWolf[ammo], well yeah, they arn't that NICE about translating
13:35.58Fisker-that's quite a lot accounts :P
13:37.17MorghusGagorian: What can I do to help you on druid-melee? =)
13:38.31GagorianHmm.. I haven't done any calculations specifically supporting druids yet but let me check
13:39.20GagorianWell, add stuff like in Rogue.lua :p
13:39.48GagorianOnce the data is there it's a lot easier to modify
13:40.01GagorianSo you can come up with own variables if you like, I can modify them later
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13:42.12GagorianMorghus: If you have any questions then feel free to ask. Any help is appreciated, most boring part is adding the data anyway :P
13:46.27Fisker-man
13:46.40Fisker-people are whining on the EU forums about there being an ingame event to celebrate 4th of july
13:46.51mitch0#toc
13:46.56mitch0hm. :)
13:47.00mitch0~purl toc
13:47.12Fisker-purl, you suck
13:47.13purland very well I might add
13:47.40mitch0someone bolt into purl the current toc version please :)
13:47.48mitch0~version
13:47.48purlversion is probably Kernel: uname -r.  Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1.  Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_.  Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>
13:48.13Fisker-purl, toc is 21000
13:48.13purlokay, Fisker-
13:48.21Fisker-if that's even right
13:48.26HealthIt's not
13:48.30Healthr-tard
13:48.41Fisker-NO U
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13:48.46HealthNO WAI
13:49.38Gagorian~purl toc
13:49.39purli guess toc is 21000
13:49.46Gagorianpurl, no, toc is 20100
13:49.46purlGagorian: okay
13:50.08Gagorian~pyrl toc
13:50.11Gagorian~purl toc
13:50.11purltoc is probably 20100
13:50.24Fisker-purl, no toc is the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100
13:50.24purlFisker-: okay
13:50.27Fisker-~toc
13:50.28purlfrom memory, toc is the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100
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13:50.43Fisker-doh
13:50.45Fisker-looks like crap
13:50.54Fisker-purl, toc
13:50.55purlsomebody said toc was the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100
13:51.11Fisker-purl, no toc is <reply> the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100
13:51.11purlFisker-: okay
13:51.14Fisker-~toc
13:51.14purlthe current WoW Interface Number is : 20100
13:51.17Fisker-there
13:51.36mitch0thanks :)
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13:55.17DhragaLo all, Antiarc or any member of the threat team avalible for a chat ?
13:56.07Dhraga*cough* there was no threat team.. .sorry Antiarc :P
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13:57.08DhragaAnyone had any problems with omen / threat not reporting accurate threat etc lately ?
13:57.19loonacyIs there an easy way to check if a value is in a table? ex: sampletable = {"Hello","World"} and i want to know if the value "World" is in the table.
13:57.38Gagorianloonacy, if you use that kind of table you have to iterate
13:57.43Leadheadok, I'm going to ask a nub question
13:57.49Leadheadthere used to be this addon that would show a grid up on your screen
13:57.52Leadheadso you could position things nicely
13:58.02Leadheadand now I cannot remember the name ;_;
13:58.09loonacyLeadhead:  Grid?
13:58.11Gagorianif you use sampletable = { ["Hello"] = true, ["World"] = true } then you can just check if sampletable["Hello"]
13:58.15Leadheadnah like
13:58.22Leadheadit showed gridlines across the screen
13:58.26Leadheadso you could centre things easily
13:58.38dylanmLeadhead: You may be thinking about Align.
13:59.04Gagorianloonacy, but that again, takes up more memory per item and might be worse in some other case (you have to iterate to get amount of items in the table)
13:59.12GagorianSo all in all depends what you need
13:59.15loonacyThanks Gagorian, that gives me something to think about at least.
13:59.39CIA-2203mitchell * r42740 10RangeCheck-1.0/ (RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua RangeCheck-1.0.toc): RangeCheck-1.0: tidbits
13:59.49Leadheadthat's it dylanm
13:59.50Leadheadcheers
13:59.51Leadhead=]
14:00.00Gagorianthe first table you can iterate with for i,v in ipairs(sampletable) do if v == "World" then DoStuff() end; end;
14:00.27mitch0dhraga: I only had problem with omen 'cos all the others were using KTM and my threat on mob change was 0 while theirs was a lot (due to KTM reporting global threat only, as far as I understand)
14:01.34loonacyI'm not planning on this table having more than 30 or so keys, and I don't care how many there are.
14:02.11Gagorianloonacy: If you need to check if often then probably keyed indexes are better
14:03.51CIA-2203mitchell * r42741 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.lua RangeDisplay.toc): RangeDisplay: tidbits
14:03.56sbumh RangeDisplay\RangeDisplay.lua:395: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 268) near '<eof>'
14:03.57sbuhm?
14:04.06mitch0darn :)
14:04.10mitch0drycoding ftw :)
14:04.18mitch0lemme check
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14:07.30mitch0sbu: thanks :)
14:07.33Mech0zWhat does pitchlimit do?
14:07.55Mikkgoogle warcraft pitchlimit
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14:08.16mitch0sbu: I've drycoded a bunch of stuff today, so probly that was not the last error :)
14:08.33mitch0hm. cia is slow today
14:08.41mitch0how nice it runs in the BG now :)
14:08.56Mikkglad to see it works
14:09.22Mikknot seeing any lag on commits?
14:09.27mitch0not on commits
14:09.36mitch0but the last commit still hasn't arrived here :)
14:09.49Mikkyer. but that's less destructive :P
14:09.53mitch0sure
14:09.57mitch0much better this way
14:10.15Kuja^btw, i get this: 2007/07/04 15:52:47-99-x1]: AddonLoader-1.0\Conditions.lua:210: attempt to index local 'metadata' (a nil value)
14:10.28Mikkfwiw, if the destination server lags for more than a minute, the message won't ever show -- the connection just fails
14:11.05Mech0zMikk that seems completely useless :/'
14:11.16Mikkno different from before
14:11.20Wobin_... is Boten Anna about a guy who gets taken in by an ircbot? =P
14:11.26MikkWobin_: yes
14:11.28Wobin_><
14:11.29Mikkor well no
14:11.42Wobin_or well he figures out that she's a bot =P
14:11.57MikkIt's an ode to his ircbot that keeps his channel neat & tidy
14:12.17Wobin_Basshunter is certainly weird
14:12.19Mikk"I've got a bot, and her name is Anna... She keeps my channel clean"  etcetc
14:12.22Wobin_but he has his niche market =P
14:12.35Mech0zAre UI like Pitbull going to run better in 2.2 (if the auther changes the code) because of the changes? or is it only UI where you open a frame like Inventory mods ?
14:12.53MikkWorst/best part is his accent. He pronounces "bot" like it could be "boat" just as well
14:13.02Mikk(in swedish, obviously)
14:13.12[Ammo]pitbull will not run better in 2.2
14:13.18MikkTook me a while to grok that he was singing about an ircbot and not some boat
14:13.19Mech0ztoo bad :/
14:13.54Wobin_hehe
14:13.59[Ammo]in fact, use agUF if you want a performance improve and don't care for the eyecandy
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14:14.01Wobin_I have a boat, and her name is Anna
14:14.10[Ammo]agUF is 490k without libs, pitbull 3.2M ....
14:14.15[Ammo]not to mention the CPU usage
14:14.17MikkMech0z: before this change, your commits would take one minute to wait for the timeout. and you still wouldnt get a report.
14:14.39vhaarr~seen CIA-22
14:14.41purlcia-22 is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 681 messages. Is idling for 10m 50s, last said: '03mitchell * r42741 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.lua RangeDisplay.toc): RangeDisplay: tidbits'.
14:14.48vhaarr~whalenuke CIA-22
14:14.48purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around CIA-22 with his mind powers
14:14.50vhaarr~spit CIA-22
14:14.51purlACTION hurls a huge goober onto CIA-22.
14:14.51CIA-2203rabbit * r42742 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua:
14:14.51CIA-22oRA2: Leader/Invite:
14:14.52CIA-22<PROTECTED>
14:14.52CIA-22<PROTECTED>
14:14.53Fisker-yeah pitbull has become quite heavy :P
14:15.23Kuja^lol, they killed cia-22 :o
14:15.27[Ammo]quite heavy is an understatement
14:15.29[Ammo]:)
14:15.34[Ammo]but hey, it's very configurable
14:15.34mitch0mikk: :)
14:15.35Mech0zMikk is that what could cause your wow to freeze while in a raid?
14:15.40[Ammo]it's like DUF! but Ace2!
14:15.49mitch0well, I turned off most of the pitbull features :)
14:15.57Fisker-indeed [Ammo]
14:16.02MikkMech0z: buh? whichwha?
14:16.06mitch0I still need to streamline some of the texts
14:16.07Mikkwe're takling SVN commits here
14:16.12Fisker-i liek my news provider btw
14:16.22Fisker-Lets limits users binary download to 30kB/s
14:16.25Mech0zBut I dont know what commits are then :/ I only code c#.net
14:16.28Fisker-"Oh noes what am i going to do"
14:16.41Fisker-"Oh wait they don't have a concurrent sessions limit"
14:16.41mitch0mikk: no. YOU are talking about svn commits, mechoz is talking about some other stuff :)
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14:16.57Mikkmitch0: his fault for getting confused when he's telling me that my change sucks then :P
14:16.59Fisker-*boosts sessions to 30 sessions and downloaded 30x30kB/s*
14:17.00Fisker-:D
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14:17.59cryogenyes thats actually quite true, pitbull is very like duf :)
14:19.00nevcairielvhaarr: nice change to oRA :)
14:19.05nevcairiel(invite stuff)
14:19.26Fisker-indeed
14:19.31Fisker-if only i had a guild :P
14:19.44[Ammo]no room for troll paladins in a guild eh?
14:19.46Fisker-Can you give me a guild in next commit?
14:19.47MikkWTB oRA raid invite planner
14:19.57Fisker-indeed [Ammo]
14:19.57Mikkwhere RLs can sit down and plan who to invite collaboratively
14:20.02[Ammo]rofl
14:20.09[Ammo]write a standalone mikk
14:20.16Mikkyeah
14:20.20Fisker-Nothing left than shit guilds on our server
14:20.26Fisker-don't feel like playing anymore :I
14:20.35nevcairielchanging raid-setup by addons is no longer possible, right?
14:20.39nevcairiel(in lock down)
14:20.58[Ammo]don't think so
14:21.06[Ammo]I think it all requires keyboard interaction anyway
14:21.42nevcairielwonder if i can have one person outside of the instance apply a different group layout for different bosses ? :D
14:21.46nevcairieler boss stages
14:22.00[Ammo]haha
14:22.04Mikkhaha
14:22.08[Ammo]'the commentator'
14:22.19Mikkcan't you drag stuff around during combat even?
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14:22.32Wobin_hehe
14:22.37[Ammo]Mikk: you can
14:22.39nevcairielyou can drag stuff around
14:22.42Wobin_here's a pic if you've not seen it of the gnomecorpse advertising: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=507157
14:22.43[Ammo]but I doubt you can do it without hardware events
14:22.46nevcairielunless you taint your raid ui
14:23.00nevcairielwhich alot people manage todo somehow
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14:23.19Mikkinstall "fixshammycolor" crap addon -> baibai raidui
14:23.24nevcairielyea
14:23.26CIA-2203helium * r42744 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
14:23.26CIA-22Babble-2.2:
14:23.26CIA-22- updated zhTW: Boss
14:23.38nevcairielhalf of my guilds raid leaders cant drag in combat
14:23.45Mikkduh
14:23.48nevcairieli am really happy about that "drag with A" change
14:23.55Mikkyeah totally
14:24.22Moltarainjust a little thing here. why are all authors including the diff languages in same file as the main code? is it better to use include?
14:24.40Moltarain*isnt it*
14:24.43MikkMoltarain: cause they're lazy. it's better to have it in a separate file tbh.
14:24.44sbunevcairiel: same here :p
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14:24.48sbucant drag in combat ;o
14:25.00sbusometimes...
14:25.01nevcairielhaha!
14:25.01nevcairiel:P
14:25.05sbu:/
14:25.07[Ammo]pwned
14:25.55vhaarrnevcairiel: thanks
14:26.01Fisker-but wouldn't tainting it just prohibit it from being run?
14:26.06Fisker-I also had the raid ui problem for a while
14:26.14Fisker-well it was just generally with the ui
14:26.14Mikknono it runs just fine
14:26.19Fisker-in combat i couldn't open spellbook or whatever
14:26.21Mikkit just can't do secure-only stuff anymore
14:27.30trhWobin_: gnome corpse advertising is awesome!
14:27.35trhWobin_: finally ads where gnomes DIE!
14:28.36Fisker-yeah
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14:32.09CIA-2203fenlis * r42745 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
14:32.09CIA-22BigWigs:
14:32.09CIA-22<PROTECTED>
14:32.58NightHawkTheSane<3 Tom Toles http://www.gocomics.com/tomtoles/
14:35.31CIA-2203mitchell * r42746 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: bit of caution
14:35.55Lysithealol goldsellers getting creative, lvl1 gnomes falling from the sky on several servers forming the url with the bodies
14:35.56Lysitheahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=116362212&sid=1&pageNo=1
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14:41.40yasuohi
14:42.00sheldonanyone know if the questsfu tooltips and cowtip are playing nicely together yet?
14:42.01yasuomy oneview does not work anymore - i cannot see the items of my other chars
14:44.12yasuoany ideas?
14:44.57mitch0someone haxored you and sharded/vendored all your stuff from your alts
14:45.14yasuohuh?
14:45.19nevcairiellol
14:45.23yasuoshall i delete some temp files?
14:45.28Mikkyasuo: have you logged them on lately?
14:45.38yasuoyeah just logged all of em
14:45.45yasuoand "looked" into the bank
14:45.51yasuoto get it updated
14:46.21yasuobut when i klick on "character" in the OV window nothing happens
14:47.10DhragaWe did Karazhan last night, and at Prince we had to stop and have our members reinstall KTM as Omens threat reporting 1. appered clogged up (it could take a long while with false information then it got synced after 1-2 minutes) 2. other times  we had totallt wrong threat view, a mage that was 200% above our feral tank and did not take aggro and could not lower his threat even though he...
14:47.11Dhraga...stopped and did nothing.
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14:48.02yasuowhre are the temp files and shall i delete em?
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14:48.59sz3hi there
14:50.04yasuowhere do i get oneview support?
14:51.38kebinusanhttp://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=507157 heh
14:52.12nevcairielrofl
14:52.41nevcairielthat mustve been alot of work actually
14:52.51Moltarainim gona mark  anywone posting links to that image as gold seller ^^ ,)
14:53.24kebinusanoh come on, you have to admit that thread demanded pics
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14:53.49kebinusancertainly very creative advertising
14:54.07trhkebinusan / nevcairiel: no work involved, it's teleport hack
14:54.21Moltarainnot realy, the thing is you do their work now. and thus you are a gold seller promoter in a way...
14:55.12trhMoltarain: i'm 100% sure that anyone in this channel would find a gold seller without that ad
14:55.26trhMoltarain: (if he wants to)
14:55.28Moltarainppl should think about that. it all comes up to what you want ppl to think about you.
14:55.29sheldonanyone know the right place to do bug reports on questsfu? I noticed it's tooltip addition feature doesn't seem to work well with cowtip...
14:57.22loonacySpeaking of cowtip, I have a noobish question:  What exactly does the "tooltip of awesomeness" do?
14:57.40Lysitheanevcairiel it's not alot of work, they're using a teleport hack and falling to the ground
14:57.44Lysitheaon lots of servers
14:57.45CIA-2203rabbit * r42747 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Don't let non-party-leaders invite the guild.
14:58.45kebinusanyeah but wouldnt you get a rez timer after a bit?
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14:59.00Lysitheahuh?
14:59.01nevcairielyour ghost gets released
14:59.05nevcairielbut the corpse is still there
14:59.11kebinusanoh
14:59.14kebinusanmany many toons
14:59.23Lysitheayeh, many many toons :)
14:59.23kebinusansee that in itself is somewhat a bit of effort it seems
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14:59.39kebinusanthen you have a teleport/coordinate system to fall proper to spell stuff out
14:59.42Fisker-noooooo
14:59.44Moltarainblizz needs to lock down the are of L1 players...
14:59.48Moltarainarea
14:59.48Fisker-gates is no longer richest man QQ
14:59.49sheldonloonacy: its a tooltip replacement
15:00.06sheldonloonacy: much more information when you mouse over anything than you normally would get
15:00.18Fisker-Lets sacrifice Steve Jobs in an offering to the "Who's the richest"-gods
15:01.59kebinusanPoor Vista sales
15:02.07kebinusanclearly thats the reason
15:03.18Fisker-BLASHPEMY
15:03.20Fisker-THIS IS MADNESS
15:03.20trhkebinusan: the hardest part is finding the actual exploit you can teleport with
15:03.34Fisker-why?
15:03.38Fisker-Movement is clientside
15:03.44trhbut gets server checked
15:03.46Fisker-I could probably do it myself within 5-10 minutes
15:03.55Fisker-You just have to be moving usually
15:04.31Fisker-you'll just get banned pretty quickly
15:04.38Fisker-as far as i know you report movement in a movement log
15:04.47Fisker-when it gets parsed it looks for anomalies and bans people
15:04.56trhah.. ok.. so they check it but only periodically
15:04.56Fisker-But they're just using trial accounts anyways so they don't give a shit
15:05.18trhanyway.. writing a hack for it (when you don't care about the ban a few hours later) is a matter of a few hours
15:05.18RogueShadowThat's a waste of trial keys
15:05.42trhRogueShadow: like they pay something for them =)
15:05.44Fisker-why?
15:05.50Fisker-They can't spam people with it
15:06.08Fisker-well they can do the invite trick
15:06.11Fisker-but that's just asking for trouble
15:06.13RogueShadowI'd rather have falling gnome's than annoying chat text and invites
15:06.25Fisker-definately same here
15:06.32Fisker-atleast the falling gnomes are kinda fun :P
15:06.34kenlyricI missed some vital part of the conversation. falling gnomes?
15:06.37kenlyricwtb
15:06.46sbumitch0: RangeDisplay\RangeDisplay.lua:70: attempt to call method 'List' (a nil value)
15:06.53Fisker-goldfarmers using teleport h4x to write an ad on the servers
15:07.05Fisker-by teleporting up in the air, falling down and die
15:07.20kenlyricis there some sort of screenshot?
15:07.27mitch0sbu: gah ;) looking into it :)
15:07.32kenlyriclike writing it out on the ground with corpses?
15:07.38Gngskkenlyric, they were doing it on my new realm during raid time, pretty funny
15:07.42Fisker-yeah kenlyric
15:07.45cryogenfwiw i cant make out the url of the site in question only the .com bit
15:07.51kenlyricthat's epic wang
15:07.53cryogenbut falling gnomes ftw
15:07.55kenlyricwtb screenshot
15:08.19GngskI couldn't tell wtf they were writing either, but only because I happen to use a model replacement for the race/sex combo they were using
15:08.19Fisker-They'll just have to despawn trial account corpses
15:08.19mitch0now where did I stole that code from...
15:08.21kebinusanKenlyric: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=507157 heh
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15:08.23trhCryect: it's ... mine.com but i can'T read the beginning either =)
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15:08.54cryogeni didnt say i *wanted* to make it out :p
15:09.22kenlyricthat's mazing.
15:09.31Gngskwowmine.com
15:09.33Gngskgo go go
15:09.54kenlyricit's so even.
15:10.16Fisker-ah lol
15:10.18RogueShadowWhy would you want to know it?
15:10.21Fisker-it's incomplete then Gngsk
15:10.27Fisker-thought Wcwmine.com
15:11.05mitch0HAHA! beaten by the copy-waste again :)
15:11.13mitch0local SML = AceLibrary:HasInstance("Dewdrop-2.0") and AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0")
15:11.19mitch0SML should be sharedmedialib :)
15:12.02trhi wonder what blizzard would do if ace would display random (depending on revision) gold seller ads every few minutes =)
15:12.18CIA-2203mitchell * r42748 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: copy-waste is teh evil
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15:14.14mitch0sbu: thanks again ;) you're kinda brave trying to run this :)
15:14.14liquiemtrh, that would kill ace
15:14.26liquiemnot about blizzard but the user being pissed
15:14.32trhliquiem: true
15:14.39trhwhat about subliminal messages? :P
15:15.07liquiemdepends. in sct injected? :D
15:15.24trhhehe.. i meant more like 20% transparent text every few seconds for 1 frame or sth
15:15.30trhit's said that it works ;)
15:16.00trhshould write a addon doing it with configurable messages ;)
15:16.07trhto try if it actually works ;)
15:16.11Fisker-it doesn't
15:16.31Fisker-i know from having seen quite a few ads in my time
15:16.33Fisker-:P
15:16.35Chompersdeal or no deal, 4th of july edition
15:16.39ChompersWHY!
15:16.50trhFisker-: i think it depends on the user itself, there are many studies about it =)
15:19.56liquiemis it possible to turn around the caracter about 180° via macro/addon?
15:20.03liquiemor is it just camera movement
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15:23.35liquiemgot the answer. no, it's not possible :/
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15:25.19Fisker-lol
15:25.47Fisker-wow gold bot spammed my previous guilds dark age of camelot board
15:25.47Fisker-:P
15:26.13RogueShadowlol
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15:31.53dodgizzlaDhraga: Wouldn't it be better to just dump threat meters and get a tank that holds aggro? :D
15:32.01mitch0sbu: thanks for the reports so far. I'm off to home now, hopefully ironing out the rest of the bugs within 1-2 hours :)
15:32.09dodgizzlaHm lol, my irssi did not scroll down :D
15:32.16sbumitch0: RangeDisplay\RangeDisplay.lua:223: attempt to call method 'getFont' (a nil value)
15:32.36sbumhhhhm
15:32.37mitch0ok, this is the last one from work :)
15:32.43sbuwtb range-check support in dogtag ;p
15:32.44mitch0simple typo
15:32.46mitch0it's there
15:32.49sbuoh?
15:32.51mitch0[Range]
15:34.04CIA-2203mitchell * r42749 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: typo
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15:37.45Moltarainto get tank to hold agro. just put a shammy in his group. and windfury totem. then tell the shammy to use some else on hos own char so he dosnt proc on wf ,). then you can overnuke the target as much you want :P
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15:39.34CIA-2203gnarfoz * r42750 10Tattle/ (12 files in 11 dirs): Tattle - EU data update
15:39.44Chomperstattle updates :D
15:40.19RogueShadowTattle!   ew. who wants to tattle on people
15:40.28Chomperssnitches
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15:52.19trhcheaters :P
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15:57.36rantanmanis the call method "somethinghere" with nil value bug in pitbull known? they dont work at all since the last revision
15:57.57Kaelteng'morning and happy 4th (to all the US people)
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15:58.28nevcairielmorning
15:58.42CIA-2203helium * r42751 10Fence/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
15:58.43CIA-22Fence:
15:58.43CIA-22- updated zhTW localization
16:02.34Bloodspirithow can i set a icon texture on a button?
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16:05.42nevcairieldo SetTexture on it ? :)
16:06.06GagorianlowDmg, hiDmg, offlowDmg, offhiDmg, posBuff, negBuff, percentmod = UnitDamage("unit") -> When would actually posBuff and negBuff be used?
16:06.14GagorianDoes for example Heroic strike alter them?
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16:18.53NightHawkTheSaneI have no idea, but I might be cajoled into testing it in a few minutes. :P
16:18.55CIA-2203jncl * r42752 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/Bagnon.lua Skinner.lua): Skinner: Fix Bug with LoadOnDemand Addons introduced in the last release
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16:25.45CIA-2203nymbia * r42753 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-zhTW.lua:
16:25.45CIA-22Quartz:
16:25.45CIA-22- Added zhTW translation, thanks Norova!
16:26.25CIA-2203nymbia * r42754 10Quartz/Quartz.toc:
16:26.25CIA-22Quartz:
16:26.25CIA-22- I'm told it helps to load localization files.
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16:28.51GagorianNightHawkTheSane: Do it plix
16:29.08NightHawkTheSaneI demand payment of gnome sex slaves!
16:29.56GagorianI already ate all the gnomes :(
16:30.08GagorianSo tender meat for my orc belly
16:30.11NightHawkTheSanewell damn.
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16:30.50Chompersmale gnomes...
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16:41.05NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: Heroic strike doesn't appear to have any effect on the output of UnitDamage
16:42.19GagorianI wonder what does then, i.e. do I ever need to take into consideration the two returns...
16:42.37[dRaCo]Tornhoof: ping
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16:43.34N|healmuthHi
16:43.43NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: have you tested it when under the effects of [de]buffs that alter your melee damage?
16:44.07N|healmuthis it possible to write an addon that sends a certain message to GuyX if he posts something in channel Y?
16:44.10GagorianI have a level 19 rogue, that's it :P
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16:44.18GagorianN|healmuth: Yes.
16:44.33N|healmuthis it complicated? :P
16:44.47NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: make friends with a warrior, have him buff you with BS, and check? Also, maybe check things like sharpening/weight stones.
16:45.05[dRaCo]not really, register the chat event and check for poster and msg
16:45.12NightHawkTheSaneI
16:45.26NightHawkTheSaneI'd cehck myself, but I'm lazy, already exited the game, and don't feel like logging back in.
16:46.04N|healmuthdraco, could you write it? :X
16:46.22N|healmuthi honestly dont really have a clue about chat stuff :|
16:46.23[dRaCo]nope. I've never coded anything in lua before
16:47.18GagorianNightHawkTheSane: You'd get as many gnomes you'd wish in the afterlife, virgin gnomes.
16:47.40NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: meh, i'm too lazy even for that to work. :P
16:47.45N|healmuthstupid question but is there anybody around that can write lua decently?
16:47.56NightHawkTheSaneI'm nto even sure if i have access to any sharpening/weight stones to test.. hmm
16:47.56JoshBorkeN|healmuth: nope, not a soul
16:48.00N|healmuth:D
16:48.05GagorianWe just come here for the free candy
16:48.13NightHawkTheSaneindeed.
16:48.45N|healmuthJoshBorke i take it you can then? :p
16:49.04dylanm<PROTECTED>
16:49.46[dRaCo]N|healmuth: "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL" is prolly the event you wanna register, here's the doc: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/C
16:50.43JoshBorkei have no idea what's going on
16:50.44Gagoriannrn
16:50.46Gagorianaka brb
16:50.52[dRaCo]http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon should give you the basic idea of what to do
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16:52.03CIA-2203gandharva * r42755 10Fence/modules/Fence_BidWatch.lua:
16:52.03CIA-22Fence:
16:52.03CIA-22- fixed a typo from helium
16:52.22mitch1hrmp, no the syntax is ok, just doesn't work as expected :(
16:53.43JoshBorkeN|healmuth: what do you want to do?
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16:54.35[dRaCo]quoting: "is it possible to write an addon that sends a certain message to GuyX if he posts something in channel Y?"
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16:56.44GagorianAh, now I can properly code again. Got my 2nd monitor working, time to work some more on the melee module!
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17:01.40NightHawkTheSaneMm.. French toast and french pressed coffee. Not many finer ways to start the day.
17:02.21Kinkxnymbia - [2007/07/04 00:44:35-1379-x2898]: ArenaMaster-1.0\Core.lua:464: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value), happens if you target a player so fast after the door opens that they get added as "Unknown"
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17:03.24ThraeRemember people -- never trust the server to give you a valid value!
17:04.16NightHawkTheSaneThrae: /the server/anyone/
17:04.31[dRaCo]data from anywhere outside your code is evil.
17:05.48NightHawkTheSanes/your code/the method you're in/ :P
17:06.47[dRaCo]hrhr
17:07.16[dRaCo]ultimately leading us to "data is evil."
17:07.52mitch1grr.. if I SetPoint(CENTER, X, CENTER); why does GetPoint() return TOPLEFT, nil, TOPLEFT?! :(
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17:08.48NightHawkTheSane[dRaCo]: paranoid programming ftw?
17:09.29mitch1anyone knows what's the pointnum param of GetPoint()?
17:09.45[dRaCo]that's the logical conclusion.
17:10.08NightHawkTheSanealso, french toast, apple cider syrup, and french pressed coffee = total win.
17:10.42kaiden^ugh, my DogChow button isn't showing.. any way to reinit it and get it to the center of the screen? doing a setpoint on DogChowButton doesn't seem to be doing the trick
17:12.47nymbiaKinkx: ?
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17:15.09NightHawkTheSane"I'm.. not sure.. but I'm really.. really hoping.. [points down] Pants?" "Nope."
17:15.56NightHawkTheSane"I like old things, they make me feel sad." "What's good about sad?" "It's happy for deep people."
17:16.36trhmitch0: the points you set - GetNumPoints = number of points, starting with 1
17:17.40mitch1should return the first set, right?
17:18.01mitch1I'm fairly sure I only set one, and that's CENTER, CENTER, yet I get TOPLEFT :(
17:18.23Kinkxnymbia - I'm sorry, thought you were the author.. strange assumption really, sorry ;p
17:18.25CIA-2203funkydude * r42756 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: SC/Lurker: add deDE thanks to Deli
17:18.38trhmitch0: i can only guess that either something changed the point, or wow recalculates every point to TOPLEFT
17:19.07nymbiaKinkx: i thought i was too for a second, since i've got arenapointer ;)
17:19.36mitch1trh: I think the latter is highly unlikely, as I've seen other addons depend on the same behaviour I like to depend on...
17:19.44mitch1so probably I'm doing something wrong :)
17:20.26mitch1debugging...
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17:21.52mitch1ah. I know
17:22.13mitch1StartMoving() StopMoving() screws it up
17:22.29mitch1ok, how to convert a TOPLEFT anchor to a CENTER anchor?
17:22.44MikkAFK:ClearAllPoints() and then a new SetPout
17:22.45MikkAFKSetPoint too
17:23.00mitch1without x, y ?
17:23.11Mikkif you just want it centered, sure
17:23.12mitch1like SetPoint(CENTER, UIParent, CENTER)
17:23.16mitch1no
17:23.34mitch1I want to set a CENTER anchor, and I only save x, y in db
17:23.36Mikkyou can't really SetPoint without moving it no
17:23.53mikmathe chatbot is awake :P
17:23.54mitch1but StartMoving/StopMoving seems to screw it up
17:24.07MikkYeah StartMoving likes to manipulate TOPLEFT iirc
17:24.08mitch1and convert it to TOPLEFT
17:24.21mitch1I need to convert that back to CENTER :)
17:24.43MikkWhy? =)
17:25.03trhmitch1: shouldn't be hard to convert: )
17:25.05MikkI mean... you can get the same positioning offsetting from wherever
17:25.21mitch1but I only store x,y and I assume it's from CENTER
17:25.32MikkAssume its from TOPLEFT instead
17:25.33MikkProblem solved
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17:25.43[dRaCo]#2
17:25.45mitch1I'll check ArenaMaster, it does the same and that works somehow :)
17:25.50CIA-2203funkydude * r42757 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: add enrage timer
17:26.44MikkWhat I would personally like is for the drag handler to see which corner I'm sitting in
17:26.51MikkOr what quadrant of the screen rather
17:27.03MikkAnd pick the closest corner to anchor to
17:27.06NightHawkTheSanethis episode was so brilliant.
17:27.29MikkThat way the UI doesn't go all screwy when I change resolution
17:27.30MikkWhich I do quite a lot :S
17:27.45mitch1I don't get it. ArenaMaster does the same thing I do and it works :(
17:27.46Mikk(Gogo 1280x768 for simultaneous IRC at the bottom)
17:29.31Guest9247920611280x768 is the poor man's resolution
17:29.39CIA-2203arith * r42758 10AtlasLoot/Sets/ (sets.lua sets.tw.lua):
17:29.40CIA-22AtlasLoot:
17:29.40CIA-22- Fixed T6Rouge set name
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17:30.00Mikk1280x768 is total win when you're running in windowed mode
17:30.07Mikkon a 1280x1024
17:30.30Pheredhelmany things in  lua would be easier if they wouldnt completely ignore 0 in strings ...
17:31.27Mikknils as string terminators is evil
17:31.34Mikkand that's coming from a C programmer
17:32.22mitch1ok, I have an idea now
17:32.43Mikkbut, yeah, i wouldn't mind a string class in lua that could do more flexible things
17:32.47mitch1didn't work :(
17:32.53Mikklike re-point the start, or change the length
17:33.02Mikkand other manipulations
17:33.27Pheredhelhow can I iterae through the charactrs of a string, if there is no way to tell how long it is ?
17:33.37clad|awayyou can always tell how long it is.
17:33.42Pheredhelhow ?
17:33.48clad|away#variableName
17:33.51clad|awaystring.length(variablename)
17:33.52clad|awayimo
17:33.52yasuomy oneview does not work correctly - i cannot see the items of my other chars
17:33.55Mikk#"foo" == 3
17:34.13Mikkand string.length yeah
17:34.26clad|awayalternatively, for char in ("poomonkey"):gmatch(".") do print(char) end
17:34.34Mikkrofl
17:34.59Gngskhow many dirty stinking apes does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
17:35.03Pheredhelstring.length == string.len ?
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17:35.32teeeeewhere is the actual wow channel
17:35.38teeeeethat talk about gear and stuff
17:35.48Mikkno idea
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17:36.01Mikktry #wowi-lounge
17:36.03clad|awayaye, string.len
17:36.08Mikkit's at least a bit more generic than #wowace
17:36.24Mikki wouldn't be surprised if there's a #wow on quakenet though
17:36.51Pheredhelhmm, ok, it just seems to do funny stuff with  0 chars
17:37.18clad|awayPheredhel: What do you mean 0 chars?
17:37.22clad|awaydo you mean \000?
17:38.24Gngskhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrJi5-RUWKk
17:38.37mitch1why does StopMoving() screw my anchor :( /cry
17:38.52loonacyBecause your anchor is a slut?
17:38.55Pheredhellets see, i tried to work with it this morning, lets see if i can find the examples
17:39.07KaeltenMikk:  I know there is a #curse-wow on quakenet but no one ever talks in it really.
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17:41.06ckknighthappy America day, everyone
17:41.50Arrowmaster...
17:42.14teeeeetx Mikk
17:42.34Chomperstell me about america day, what is it?
17:42.34Fisker-independence day omg
17:42.41Pheredhelok, seems to work, no idea what i did this morning
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17:44.32Pheredheljust trying to be able to parse some tags (and the more I think about it, the more I think I'll have to write an interpreter for it)
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17:46.27CIA-2203fenlis * r42759 10Mendeleev/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
17:46.27CIA-22Mendeleev:
17:46.27CIA-22- Added 'trade skill' names be based by BTS
17:46.27CIA-22- Updated localization koKR & zhTW
17:46.33mitch1it's not polite to mess with the table returned by SharedMediaLib:List('font'), right? I mean, the same table is returned for everyone, right?
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17:47.16Pheredhelhmm, tag parsing seems to be chomsky-2 best case
17:47.44Pheredhelat least the way I would need it to be
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17:50.36CIA-2203fenlis * r42760 10Aloft/Options/Modules/Alpha.lua:
17:50.36CIA-22Aloft :
17:50.36CIA-22<PROTECTED>
17:51.17ckknightChompers: day we celebrate America's independence from Britain
17:52.00ckknighttwo peoples separated by a common language and all
17:52.05CIA-2203fenlis * r42761 10VanasKoS/modules/CommandLineHandler.lua: VanasKoS: - Updated localization koKR
17:52.15trhi always thought it had something to do with the civil war ;)
17:52.22ckknightnah
17:52.39ckknightthat's more wrapped into veteran's day/memorial day
17:53.19ckknighttrh: on average, America's had 1 war every 20 years
17:53.24ckknightor roughly 1 war per generation
17:53.30Chompersinteresting
17:53.36NightHawkTheSaneeh, these days both of those are typically oriented more towards veterans and victims of foreign wars, ww2/vietnam/korea, etc.
17:53.36Chompersi guess its pretty big over there then?
17:53.36Tuksgood to know
17:53.40ckknightso, instead of having a separate holiday for each, which would be inefficient
17:53.42Tuksso, when is the next war coming?
17:53.45NightHawkTheSaneBut I suspect that's largely because there's no civil war vets still alive.
17:53.46art3misand in the last 60 yeasr they've won umm 1 ;P
17:53.47Tuksoh, war never ended, yet...
17:53.49ckknightwe just wrap most of em into veterans/memorial
17:53.49the_squidwhy does WoW get stuck at that Success! bit when I try to log in?
17:53.51NightHawkTheSaneTuks: next war? we're still in one. :P
17:54.35NightHawkTheSanecourse, its less a war and more an illegal occupation of a sovereign nation, but that's way off topic and a discussion i'm not in the mood to get into, so i'll just drop it there.
17:54.38Tuksby the time this war ends, the next one is gona be on your doors
17:55.00Tuksguess you are right..
17:55.08trhguess that law doesn't apply for the last 20 years, but before that it seems right =)
17:55.32Tukswich law? there is no law :P
17:55.45trhok.. it's a theorem by ck ;)
17:56.04trhor a thesis
17:56.12art3miswwii: win, korea==draw, vietnam==loss, grenada==loss, falklands==loss, desertstorm==draw, helpingout in bosnia==draw,afghanistan==draw, iraq==loss
17:56.12trhnot sure on the english word for it :)
17:56.35art3mishypothesis
17:56.47art3misthats the word you want ;P
17:56.51Tukswich side is that artemis?
17:57.05art3misthat was america 's wars in the last 60 or so years
17:57.12art3misi know im missing a bunch though
17:57.20Tuksart3mis  falklands==loss ?
17:57.37Tuksas far as i know, that war was: argentina vs Britain, and argentina lost
17:57.40Matrix110Btw ckknight ive got a question, when iam using Pitbull and die in a instace and release my party frames disappear and never come back until i reloadui, is there anything iam doing wrong or is that a known bug?
17:57.44art3miswell the goal was to keep it british, and last i checked argentina got it back didnt they?
17:57.44CIA-2203fenlis * r42762 10FuBar_VanasKoSFu/ (FuBar_VanasKoSFu.toc VanasKoSFu.lua):
17:57.44CIA-22FuBar_VanasKoSFu
17:57.44CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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17:58.03Tukser.. no art3mis
17:58.05art3misoh okay im wrong on that one then
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17:58.14art3misdunno why i figured the british lost it
17:58.18art3misoh well
17:58.21Tuksargentina never got that back.. im preety sure, if we had that, i'll move there in a second :)
17:59.09art3misso yeah the war record doesnt look very good
17:59.11Tukswell no more war/politics please
17:59.16Mech0zHow do you do so Arcinventory dont sort on the go while your selling items etc
17:59.16NightHawkTheSaneYeah, wikipedia says argentenia was defeated and withdrew. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands
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17:59.43art3misnods i was in my early teens so its getting ahrd for the old neurons to remember it ;P
17:59.49Tuksim from argentina NightHawkAtWork, i know that one :P
18:00.02NightHawkTheSaneTuks: fair enough, didn't know you were. :)
18:00.18Pheredhelis there any better way then sting.gfind(string,".") to iterate through a string ?
18:00.25NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: thats why there's wikipedia, so we don't need to remember things :p
18:00.54art3mishave you seen conservapedia?
18:00.57Tuks56millon people.. is your answer
18:01.04art3misoh my god its hilarious!
18:01.09NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: yes. But I really try to deny that it exists. ><
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18:02.57Tukswhy in the hell i went to that site?
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18:03.28trhPheredhel: using len and strin.sub?
18:03.32trhPheredhel: string.sub
18:04.00trhPheredhel: or string.byte
18:05.09CIA-2203adirelle * r42763 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (17 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:05.09CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
18:05.09CIA-22- added druids' Gift of the Wild,
18:05.09CIA-22- enhanced handling of paladin blessings,
18:05.09CIA-22- rewrote internals, that simplified buff declaration,
18:05.10CIA-22- optional support for Waterfall,
18:05.12CIA-22- removed spells that were misplaced,
18:05.47Pheredhelhmm, either way, I just decided that I wont write an interpreter for a chomsky-2 language just to allow using some special tags to create strings
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18:06.04Tornhoofyou should :)
18:06.20Pheredhelwhy?
18:06.26trhAdirelle: two bugs: 1.) ssr doesn't recognize my aspects and tracking like it always did :(
18:06.36trhAdirelle: 2) it doesn't unbind the key bindings when in combat
18:06.39Tornhoofdunno, bragging rights or something ;)
18:06.44Adirelletrh: r42763 ?
18:07.11trhAdirelle: means: you buff trueshot aura in combat, it can't unbind them when incombatlockdown and doesn't retry after lockdown
18:07.29trhAdirelle: looking
18:08.14trhAdirelle: 42148 (yesterday i think)
18:08.29Adirellecheck latest rev for 1)
18:08.36trhAdirelle: k, what about 2?
18:08.39Adirellefor 2) I'll see what I can do
18:08.43HjalteWhen Fence is updated on the svn, is the Fence included in KC_Items then also updated?
18:08.58trhAdirelle: it helps to see it when you enable the error display of common errors in bugsack =)
18:09.09PheredhelTornhoof: if this "you should" was about my comment: I don't think it's worth that trouble, if doing something like this, I'd rather try to write a complete lib about it
18:09.15Adirelletrh: k
18:09.46AdirelleI'll take a look
18:09.48mitch1ok, I give up. I'll store the anchortype as well :(
18:10.03trhAdirelle: i can probably give you the exact errormessage in a sec
18:10.23AdirelleI guess it's something related to changing attributes incombat
18:10.40trhAdirelle: it's a blocked function while in combat - UnbindKeys or something like that
18:10.57Adirelleokay, I think I'll simply unbind at start of combat
18:11.20Arrowmastermitch1: any plans to switch rangedisplay completely over to aceaddon?
18:11.29Adirellethough it should already do that... I may have missed some precombat event
18:13.07trhAdirelle: uh.. i'm getting: [2007/07/04 20:11:12-545-x1]: SimpleSelfRebuff\locale-enUS.lua:1: attempt to index global 'SimpleSelfRebuff' (a nil value)
18:13.24trhAdirelle: cause locale-enUS is loaded before SimpleSelfRebuff and SimpleSelfRebuff:_rev is valled in it
18:13.47trhAdirelle: current files.wowace.com revision
18:13.49Adirelletrh: yeah, extract last rev from SVN or wait for files.wowace.com to be update
18:13.50trhAdirelle: not the svn one
18:13.52Adirelle+d
18:13.59trhAdirelle: k, taking svn
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18:17.30trhAdirelle: it detects my aspects/tracking again.. great :)
18:19.43[Liquidor]Ownage : 300 Moonkins - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nexCyw8hYuk
18:20.00[dRaCo]Tornhoof: got a moment?
18:21.38trhAdirelle: http://ace.pastey.net/70330
18:21.42trhAdirelle: that's the exact bug
18:22.17trhAdirelle: you can reproduce it: have something missing (SSR in fubar says missing), go into combat, let ssr buff through mouse wheel
18:22.23trhAdirelle: *bam* fatality ;)
18:22.56trhAdirelle: and after that it endlessly wants to rebuff trueshot aura, even though it knows it's ok
18:23.05trhAdirelle: just the binding didn't got deleted or sth
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18:35.33mitch1is there a constant for "LeftButton"? or should I just use that as a string?
18:36.08Arrowmasterjust use as string i think
18:36.15Shirikuse that string, you will gain nothing by making a constant for it
18:36.23Shirikyou will actually increase memory usage by doing such
18:36.43Arrowmasterbtw rangedisplay seems broken, it goes away until i reset it when i lock it
18:37.30mitch1I know
18:37.36mitch1working on it
18:37.46mitch1bloody StopMoving screws up the anchor :(
18:37.53mitch1will commit soon
18:38.06mitch1font selection is also broken :)
18:38.22mitch1but you can check RangeCheck (that's the released version)
18:38.31Arrowmasterits ok, if i get bored enough i might branch it for fun
18:38.48mitch1branch it? for what reason?
18:39.01mitch1if you want to fix bugs, fix in it directly ;)
18:39.32Arrowmasterbranch it to make it use aceaddon
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18:39.48mitch1ah, well, what do you gain from that?
18:39.51ShirikI disagree with that philosophy
18:40.00Shirikbranching is a good idea, especially when you have others accessing your SVN directly
18:40.16ShirikWhen you are fixing something that could severely break other components, it's best to develop it separately
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18:40.29mitch1branching for work in progress is OK of course
18:40.30Shirik(Take note this is for general SVN use, I have no idea how the Ace SVN is set up)
18:40.34WALoeIIIWhat is the URL for anonymous SVN checkouts?
18:40.46WALoeIIIlike say I want FuBar?
18:40.50WALoeIIIits asking me for a username/password
18:40.53Arrowmasterwell with aceaddon and aceconsole, addons such as deucecommander, niagara, and ace2khaos would be able to configure it
18:41.02kaiden^WALoeIII, http://files.wowace.com/
18:41.03mitch1svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/X ?
18:41.48mitch1ok, let me just fix it first to work ;)
18:42.39WALoeIIImitch1: http://pastie.caboo.se/76072
18:42.42WALoeIIInope
18:42.52WALoeIIII want to checkout the FuBar trunk into my addons directory
18:42.59WALoeIII(without externals)
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18:43.03Arrowmasteroh btw you might want to add "Shoot" to the list of spells to use for casters in rangecheck-1.0
18:43.21Arrowmasterknowing exactly 30 yards is every useful for some fights
18:43.48Arrowmastermaybe misdirection for hunters too
18:43.52mitch1I think all of the casters have a 30yd range spell added already
18:43.54Funkeh`is there any way i can catch and log outgoing whispers via chat msg addon
18:43.59Funkeh`can only seem to do incoming
18:43.59Arrowmasterwarlocks dont
18:44.05mitch1but Shoot is a good idea as it's certainly there even at low levels
18:44.08mitch1will do
18:44.25Arrowmasterall the spells for warlocks that are 30 yards, i have the talents to make them 36 yards
18:44.30Shirikmisdirection should be unlimited range >.>
18:45.01mitch1kk, will test, just let me get this bloody anchor sorted out first :) and fonts
18:45.08Arrowmasterand knowing 28-36 isnt very helpful when i know a boss ability is 30 yards
18:45.24Arrowmasterive already tested Shoot on warlocks, it works fine
18:45.30mitch1wa: NOT dev.wowace.com, but svn.wowace.com
18:45.56mitch1sure thing. didn't think about Shoot. Shoot me! :)
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18:46.07WixiWhats the current score on Threat->KTM? has that been resolved?
18:46.14trhnope
18:46.23trhkenco doesn't even respond to it =)
18:47.02Wixiso does Threat pick up ktm data or vice versa?
18:47.12Wixi(been out the loop a week and lost track)
18:47.16Arrowmastercurrent score is kenco is a twat, get your entire guild to switch to a threat-1.0 mod if theyll keep it updated, if they wont dont bother right now
18:47.19nevcairielthreat does pick it ip
18:47.24mitch1is it OK to use _ as if it were a local just to eat up unwanted return values?
18:47.25nevcairielKTM blocks data from threat tho
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18:47.27trhWixi: yep... but ktm recognizes all threat clients as "invalid version"
18:47.35Wixiah ok
18:47.41trhnevcairiel: uh.. i don't think data is blocked
18:47.43Shirikmitch1: Most do
18:47.55Shirikit is convention to use the variable _ as a throwaway variable
18:47.57Wixipersonally Kenco is only goodfor one thing, and thats coffee, although thats not particulary great stuff anyway
18:47.58Arrowmastermitch1: yes but i noticed one place in your code it wasnt being used as a local, you probably dont want to do that
18:48.02Shirikhowever, it is just a valid variable name as anyone else
18:48.19ShirikArrowmaster: They're used as globals all over the place too, there shouldn't be any problem with that
18:48.24mitch1so it would be best to declare it local in the file?
18:48.25Tuksdoes anyone know th code of Antagonist?
18:48.27Shirikaside from performance
18:48.53Arrowmastermitch1: like in function RangeDisplay:lock()
18:49.02Arrowmasteryou have _, _, _ , db.X, db.Y = rangeFrame:GetPoint() on svn
18:49.19mitch1I know
18:49.27mitch1I just dunno if it's OK :)
18:49.29ShirikArrowmaster: The alternative would be db.X, db.Y = select(4, rangeFrame:GetPoint())
18:49.30Arrowmasterchange to db.X, db.Y = select(4,rangeFrame:GetPoint())
18:49.35ShirikI disagree with that
18:49.40Shirikbut do what you want
18:49.54mitch1select() just make the code unreadable
18:50.12mitch1I'll just declare _ as a file-scope local and be done with it :)
18:50.28Shirikwhy are you so worried about this
18:50.28Mikkit's certainly faster than chugging stuff into the global _
18:50.33NeeblerIs there an addon out there that has savable button position profiles?
18:50.38Mikksince accessing the global _ repeatedly = slow
18:50.45ShirikTrue
18:50.50ccKepanyone here knows DoTimer? warlock guildmate uses it and is currently searching for an ace alternative :o
18:50.55mitch1mikk: but if _ is local?
18:51.03Neeblercckep: chronometer
18:51.04Mikkmitch1: that's good
18:51.11Shirikmitch1: That would be better than select
18:51.18mitch1so that's what I'll do
18:51.27Shirikand from now on I'm calling you mitch0
18:51.30Shiriksince it's easier to tab complete
18:51.31dylanmccKep: There are timers like Chronometer, but I believe none of them try to separate targets so clearly like DoTimer. Granted, it's unreliable, but I always like that.
18:51.52mitch1sure thing. I'm the same
18:51.56ccKepthanks
18:52.01mitch1just left my client on @work ;)
18:52.11Wixianyone got a laymans guide to /stopcasting macro's i'm converting my guilds addons right now :)
18:52.14Shirikidentify with nickserv :P
18:52.33mitch1will it kick the other one?
18:52.49Shirikif you have that nick registered, you can ghost it
18:53.09mitch1gah, too complicated. /focus [target=RangeDisplay.lua]
18:53.10Tuksis there any Ace adon for self buffing rebufing
18:53.11Tuks?
18:53.17trhTuks: simpleselfrebuff
18:53.24Tuks<PROTECTED>
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18:53.35Shiriklike this
18:53.36trhTuks: but it ain't that advanced yet =)
18:53.51Tukswell using something advanced being a shaman
18:53.57Tukswith 2 buffs, its wasting my ram :)
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18:54.10Shirikeasy enough
18:54.21trhTuks: hehe.. i guess you should just try and see if it works
18:54.55Tuksdamn, updater keep crashing on me..
18:55.05Tukswhos coding this! im gona put a demand!
18:55.48mitch1OK, so what classes have Shoot? lock, priest, mage?
18:55.50mitch1others?
18:55.58JaxonHunter?
18:56.16Tukswarrior
18:56.18Tuksrogue
18:56.19mitch1their shoot is different
18:56.22Tuksno, not rogue
18:56.24mitch1or isn't it?
18:56.25Tuksthey hay trow
18:56.30Tukser.. no
18:56.32trhlock priest mage are the only ones
18:56.35Tuksits shot, if you have a Ranged, its shot
18:56.46Tukswarrior has shoot too
18:56.53trhbut isn't it called throw?
18:56.53Tuksyup,
18:56.56Tuksnop
18:57.07Tuksits throw if they are using knives or something like tht
18:57.11mitch1oh well, /postpone it then ;) first the font thing
18:57.22BankZZhmmm, it seems like addons are dropping my FPS by 15
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18:57.38BankZZis that common?  just a function of CPU/Memory used?
18:58.02trhdo you have profiling enabled or use ktm?
18:58.03JaxonBankZZ: are you using KTM?
18:58.08WALoeIIIThe Libraries should be marked differently so I can find them all instead of having to go through each addon and seeing which libraries it depends on and then getting then one by one
18:58.08mitch1hohohoho
18:58.30trhWALoeIII: use wowaceupdater without externals and automatic dependency resolving?
18:58.40mitch1WA: they should be listed in OptionalDeps or Deps
18:58.47WALoeIIItrh: I'm on OSX doing it in subversion by hand
18:58.48BankZZ<trh>: no KTM, but I am using ProformaceFU to watch memory
18:58.49mitch1ok, stop distracting me :)
18:59.09trhBankZZ: performancefu without cpu profiling shouldn't have a big effect
18:59.10WALoeIIImaybe I should just script this :-P
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18:59.17trhWALoeIII: hehe.. or use wau2
18:59.20trh~wau2
18:59.21purlhmm... wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2
19:00.29BankZZtrh: Im only using about 27m of memory, should I enable CPU monitoring to see if its a CPU problem, or do you have any other tips?
19:00.40trhBankZZ: try it =)
19:00.43trhBankZZ: can't hurt
19:01.05winkillereek
19:01.08Arrowmastermitch1: warriors and rogues both have "Shoot" and "Throw", locks mages and priests all have "Shoot"
19:01.34winkilleryoud don't need to learn throw as warrior?
19:01.39Shirikand hunters...
19:01.45trhhunters only got throw
19:01.49Arrowmasterhunters have "Throw"
19:01.52trhno shoot afaik, only auto-shot
19:01.54Shirikthat's what I meant
19:01.58dylanmIs WAU2 working on Macs yet?
19:01.58BankZZalso does anyone have suggestions on what I should enable on my ATI driver (CCC) for best profrance in WoW?
19:02.08Shirik(this is what I get for picking up in the middle of the discussion)
19:02.08dylanmIt would appear that the answer is "no".
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19:02.27ShirikBankZZ: memory is not a problem, ever
19:02.30WALoeIIIpeer > me
19:02.40Shirikunless you (1) have only 256MB of memory, or (2) are using something like 512MB of script memory
19:02.48Arrowmastermitch1: i only tested the caster "Shoot" on my warlock, it has a 30yard range and no min range, the other "Shoot" and "Throw" have min ranges
19:02.51Shirikneither of which should be true
19:02.56Jaxondylanm: if by work, you mean "quickly crashes, then yes.
19:02.59WALoeIIICan anyone remember which addon it is that modifies your tooltip to display the differences between your currently equipped item and the one you are clicked on?
19:03.02WALoeIIICowTip?
19:03.20trhWALoeIII: more like equipcompare or sth
19:03.30trhWALoeIII: cowtip is a tooltip for mouseover players
19:03.37WALoeIIIsth kk thanks
19:04.25JaxonWALoeIII: RatingsBuster?
19:04.30WALoeIIIEQCompare
19:04.31WALoeIIIis it
19:04.42rubikWALoeIII: tekCompare too
19:04.55WALoeIIIis anyone better than another?
19:04.57rubikand RatingsBuster does its own, iirc
19:05.23Fisker-http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/trivia/quiz-form.html
19:05.24Fisker-lol
19:05.29Fisker-What does Inquisitor Whitemane in the Scarlet Monastery yell as she resurrects her fallen compatriot, Scarlet Commander Mograine?
19:05.39Fisker-"They shall not have the chapeau!"
19:05.46Fisker-They should give bonus points for that answer :P
19:06.10Aenslaedrise my champion
19:06.17Aenslaedat your side, milady
19:07.00dylanmJaxon: Yeah, that's the sort of "working" I'm experiencing now :-/
19:09.04renchapi have some weird errors : Prat/Prat.lua:464 : Cannot find a library instance of SharedMedia-1.0
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19:09.24renchapFuBarPlugin-2.0 requires Dewdrop-2.0
19:09.39renchapand 498 other errors
19:09.59renchap(40 other, sorry ^^)
19:10.42JaxonSounds like you are missing your exterinals
19:10.49Jaxon<PROTECTED>
19:11.19renchapthey are installed
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19:14.18Gnarfoznymbia: ping
19:15.39Gnarfozlol
19:16.00Gnarfozmy old guild on my old server is recruiting rogues now... perhaps I should transfer ;D
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19:20.47Fisker-weird
19:21.16Gnarfozyou certainly are
19:21.17Fisker-If you set ReadTOS and ReadEULA to 0 and start WoW and exit it again it sets them to -2 :o
19:22.24Gnarfozlol
19:22.48Gnarfozthey are stored in a file named 'config.WTF' for a reason :P
19:24.26Fisker-would've been funnier if i didn't understand what .WTF meant
19:24.51Gnarfoznp: Sonic Syndicate - Psycic Suicide · [----------] (5%/3:52)
19:25.01Gnarfozerr
19:25.08Gnarfozalmost the right shortcut :D
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19:30.56Pheredhelsbu: ping
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19:31.23BankZZHow do you guys think WoW runs on Vista, as good as XP?
19:32.17|Stan|BankZZ: as good as xp
19:33.26Elkanoit's Vista so more likely not as good but fine
19:33.26BankZZ|Stan|: do you run in compatbility mode?
19:34.10Kalman|BankZZ: Tell you in 15 minutes or so.
19:34.17BankZZim trying to figure out out how to improve FPS in a way that makes sense
19:35.35BankZZbut I think I am in a situation where I want my cake and eat it too
19:36.18sbuPheredhel: yep?
19:36.23GnarfozBankZZ: hardocp tested that (and other situations)
19:36.44GnarfozBankZZ: one came out on top of the other, clearly, but I can't remember which was which now, I'll dig it up
19:37.18Pheredhelany additional information when CCBreaker failed using deDE ?
19:37.47Pheredhelright now it works for me, but I'm only able to test it by sheeping and killing something
19:37.59BankZZIm running Vista on a 1.8ghz PM laptop, 2G of ram and a ATI 9700 Mobile processor
19:38.00RogueShadowmmm..    I think games should run in thier own private game OS.   Reboot to game mode.  ALl system resources are now focused on gaming.    ;)     ... cept alt+tab wouldn't work anymore
19:38.22Kalman|BankZZ: I think you've identified your problems.
19:38.40NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: I suggest you invest in a console system. ;)
19:38.46Gnarfozactually, his system should be fine
19:38.47BankZZIm still hoping to find some tweak :)
19:38.55RogueShadowNightHawkTheSane: Will that play Wow tho?
19:38.58Gnarfoz1.8GHz Pentium M is not slow by any measurement :\
19:39.08Kalman|Gnarfoz: Depends on your definition of fine.
19:39.12NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: no, but what you're asking for is precisely what console systems do.
19:39.12Gnarfozto run wow
19:39.13BankZZGagorian: Im getting 15-20 FPS
19:39.21Gnarfozwhat res/detail settings?
19:39.26Mikktoo high
19:39.37Kalman|Right.  Some people define fine as >20 FPS running around, some people define it as >60 FPS in the middle of a raid encounter.
19:39.38RogueShadowNightHawkTheSane: The only difference between a console and a computer is the OS.   And the fact thier all the same hardware....
19:39.40BankZZwell, im running the native res, 1400x900
19:39.45Gnarfozguess so, the graphics card sucks
19:40.06BankZZ24 bit color
19:40.18RogueShadowNightHawkTheSane: And the console needs vhastly less power behind it to achieve the same or even more stunning visual affects than similar PC hardware...
19:40.20MikkRogueShadow: OSes don't really steal a lot of oomph unless you're running lots of shit in the background
19:40.20NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: well, the biggest difference is that consoles have uniformity of environment, while pc's do not.
19:40.23Gnarfozshouldn't have opened my Tattle commit in trac... it's about 50151025125 lines long and my browser is dying opening it :D
19:40.37MikkRogueShadow: The problem is DirectX, which isn't exactly woohoo
19:40.40RogueShadowI think you said what I wanted too better..
19:40.43ElkanoBankZZ, on my 1.5GHz with 512MB and running 1280x800 windowed I hardly had anything near 20fps ^^
19:40.43NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: that's because its specialized vs a generalized pc. :P
19:40.45GnarfozMikk: Vista does, because Vista means running a lot of shit in the background :D
19:41.00MikkSaid shit isn't constantly eating lots of CPU
19:41.07MikkWitnessed by the fact that the CPU meter says "0%" when you're not doing anything
19:41.17MikkIt eats RAM, sure
19:41.25BankZZFor color I am running 24/24/x1
19:41.27Gnarfozit's not at 0% the whole time
19:41.35NightHawkTheSaneActually, I'd wager that even "idling" your cpu is in use :P
19:41.35BankZZshould I change that to 24/16/x1?
19:41.46Mikkno
19:41.50Mikkthat's horrid
19:41.51Gnarfozit will be indexing stuff, maintaining stuff... when you are in game, not looking at your cpu meter
19:41.52RogueShadowI just figured, if the software was more specialized, a pc could increase it's performance a lot...
19:42.20MikkRogueShadow: Absolutely. You could get insane speeds out of a game if they wrote directly for a known graphics card
19:42.22Kalman|NightHawkTheSane: That and consoles are generally running at a lower resolution than PCs, although that's starting to be somewhat less true.
19:42.24MikkBut then everyone would have to have the same graphics card
19:42.47NightHawkTheSaneKalman|: yeah, fair point.
19:42.48Gnarfozlet's all get macs, there are no upgrades there, anyway! :D
19:42.55Kalman|Also, fuck modal windows popping up during the BC install while I'm typing so that I hit space bar and cancel my TBC install at 95%.  :/
19:43.04Elkanoindexing is one of the first thgings I'd disable on a notebook... else the harddisk will hardly sleep
19:43.10BankZZany ATI tweak suggestions?
19:43.22NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: o_0 i have no idea what your smoking, but the only thing on a mac that's not really upgradable is the cpu/mobo
19:43.38GnarfozNightHawkAtWork: /trade <sarcasm></sarcasm>
19:43.51NightHawkTheSane(you're)
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19:44.16RogueShadowI'm sad, I can't upgrade my PC without getting a new Motherboard.   CPU is already best one my socket can handle.
19:44.24GnarfozRogueShadow: welcome to the club
19:44.25Mech0zIs recount broken now? I cant see any damage done on mine :s
19:44.26Gnarfozstuck on s939
19:44.35Mech0zjust updated for safety but didnt help
19:44.37RogueShadowI built this pc in 2001
19:44.42RogueShadowfew upgrades here and there
19:44.52RogueShadowmore ram.  video card.  
19:45.01GnarfozBankZZ: check http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMzNCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== and the follow-up article: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM0NywxLCxobmV3cw==
19:45.10RogueShadowPointless to upgrade anymore without a better cpu now.
19:45.51CIA-2203zuno * r42764 10UnitActionBars/ (. Main.lua UnitActionBars.toc UnitGroupControl.lua):
19:45.51CIA-22UnitActionBars:
19:45.51CIA-22- Fixed a problem with the action buttons appearing on one frame, but acting on a unit different from the one associated with that frame.
19:45.52CIA-2203pheredhel * r42765 10CCBreaker/ (5 files):
19:45.52CIA-22CCBreaker:
19:45.53CIA-22-added option to change color,enable some debug output, change displayed texts
19:45.57CIA-22-some optimisations
19:47.10Gnarfozkebinusan: ping
19:48.21mitch1will I break Mac versions if I lowercase font paths?
19:48.47Mikkassume that you should use the exact same case that the files actually have
19:49.07mitch1mikk: yeah, but they are registered with different case to SML
19:49.09mitch1:(
19:49.38MikkFix SML >.<
19:49.50mitch1actually, fix whoever registered that to SML
19:50.04mitch1oh well, I'll do some hack :)
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19:50.36mitch1or just not
19:50.47NightHawkTheSanemitch0: you'll want to make sure you're using the proper case in your paths.
19:50.54mitch1so I'll call SetFont unnecessarily sometimes
19:51.03mitch1night: it's not in my control
19:51.11mitch1SML gives me the wrong path
19:51.12NightHawkTheSaneI don't recall if osx is case sensetive by default, but it has the ability to be so. And I'm not sure about *nix.
19:51.15mitch1(case-wise)
19:51.23NightHawkTheSaneWell, that's SML's problem then, I'm just saying ;)
19:51.24Jaxon*nix is case sensitive.
19:51.24Mikkunix is definitely case sensitive
19:51.31|Kev|the default osx filesystem is case preserving
19:51.32Mikkbut i think wine fakes insensitivity
19:51.40JaxonFile file and file/ are all different
19:51.42Mech0zis recount broken?
19:51.48mitch1all operating systems are case sensitive. toy systems might be not :)
19:51.49Mech0zor default paused
19:51.59Mech0z(dunno how to unpause though)
19:52.20Arrowmastermitch1: just forget about it then, its a problem in SML that needs to be fixed not something you should hack around in your addon
19:52.34mitch1yeah, I figured :)
19:52.40NightHawkTheSaneCourse, if you want to fix SML, that'd be nice. ;
19:52.40NightHawkTheSane;)
19:53.09mitch1I'm not sure if it can be easily fixed from windows given that casing is sort of random here
19:53.23mitch1you can never really be sure how windows will name your bloody files
19:53.30Mikkeh?
19:53.34Mikkwindows names them the way you type it
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19:53.52mitch1one can never be sure about windows
19:53.55mitch1:)
19:54.00Gnarfozand it also has the capability to be case-sensitive
19:54.12Gnarfozit's just not the default setting, and I haven't yet encountered someone who used that
19:54.24mitch1that would SO break a lot of stuff
19:54.48|Kev|I think you mean 'that would SO reveal a lot of broken stuff' :)
19:54.49mitch1well, pointless argument. I'll just ignore the issue for now :)
19:54.50Mikkmitch1: granted, if you're working with the Explorer(tm)(r) it can do ugly things with displaying names that are actuall all-caps as if they were Capitalized.ext
19:55.09mitch1mikk: that's what I'm talking about
19:55.19mitch1One Can Never Be Sure
19:55.29MikkOne Can Always Use The Holy CommandLine
19:55.46mitch1The Holy CommandLine On Windows Is Teh Sux
19:55.56BankZZWoW using OpenGL not DirectX, right?
19:55.58mitch1cygwin makes it bearable
19:56.03mitch1wrong
19:56.06mitch1at least partly
19:56.13Gnarfozit has support for both, BankZZ
19:56.15mitch1it can use both on win
19:56.18CIA-2203zuno * r42766 10uab_PitBullFrames/uab_PitBullFrames.lua:
19:56.18CIA-22uab_PitBullFrames:
19:56.18CIA-22- Refresh (removed some commented code)
19:56.21mitch1and opengl on mac
19:56.42Gnarfozusing ogl on win would be a waste, though :>
19:56.50BankZZWhich is the default in windows?  and how do you change it?
19:56.52Mikknot necessarily
19:57.10Mikki've heard that it starts a heck of a lot faster in opengl mode
19:57.11CIA-2203zuno * r42767 10UnitActionBars/ (44 files in 8 dirs):
19:57.11CIA-22UnitActionBars:
19:57.11CIA-22- Modified revision mechanism
19:57.14Gnarfozgreat
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19:57.24JaxonDirectX is the default on Win, -opengl commandline to force it over.
19:57.53mitch1it had some fx issues with ogl though (like the AOE targeting circle not visible in some cases)
19:58.08Mikkcould possibly fix my random display bug tho. i should try it.
19:58.10sbuPheredhel: mhh... no idea :/
19:58.10JaxonNot anymore, fixed along time ago
19:58.11Gnarfozdirectx drivers for windows simply tend to be better tested/optimized, because there's far less opengl games for windows
19:58.12BankZZwhich would give the best proformace?
19:58.21MikkBankZZ: depends on the driver. go test.
19:58.28Gnarfozdx would be my guess, for the same reason, but YMMV
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19:58.42Pheredhelsbu: ok, then just try the new version and see if i "accidently fixed it"
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19:59.02BankZZI wish WoW had a demo to run to test FPS
19:59.19CIA-2203mitchell * r42768 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: drycoded stuff fixed. phew
19:59.20BankZZto make it easy to test apple vs apples
19:59.22mitch1there
19:59.30Strigoihmm is it just me or violation have serious problems with merging pets right now
19:59.40Mikkdidn't it always?
19:59.59Strigoidoesn't matter if it checked or not it doesn't show pets data at all
20:00.13mitch1it worked for me last I checked
20:00.36StrigoiMikk well never payed attention to that
20:00.50Strigoihmm gonna try to delete saved variebles
20:00.58mitch1oh now, I'm lying, sorry
20:01.06mitch1or not
20:01.28mitch1so, my pet was always merged (WE), but I could turn on/off a guildies pet (lock)
20:02.55Mikkit's certainly measuring my own pet
20:03.05Mikkbut that's perhaps less of an issue
20:03.14Strigoihm
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20:03.51Strigoiif I uncheck merge pets will it track pets dmg at all?
20:04.07Strigoiwill those pets be on listat all
20:04.11Strigoias single unit
20:04.24mitch1druids can use wands, right?
20:04.36Strigoiofc not :<
20:05.36Funkeh`ouch :P
20:05.38Funkeh`mt
20:06.19Shiriknot mt
20:06.31Shirikit's mpm
20:06.44CIA-2203jncl * r42769 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/EnchantrixBarker.lua): Skinner: Fix for Mrs. Steele's EnchantrixBarker issue
20:06.46Shirikthere's no TELL command in IRC, it's PRIVMSG
20:09.30Funkeh`mpm?
20:10.28Strigoinope nothing happens when i merge or "un"merge pets
20:10.59Gnarfozanyone got a clue if Lua is usable with Apache (via mod_cgi perhaps, oslt?)
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20:15.22nevcairielGnarfoz: http://mod-lua.sourceforge.net/
20:15.27Gnarfozah
20:15.30nevcairiel(first hit on google btw, try that sometime :P )
20:15.34GnarfozI did
20:15.36Fisker-ll
20:15.46Fisker-lol
20:15.46Gnarfozdidn't search for "mod lua" tho.
20:15.46Fisker-attentionwhores ftw
20:15.50nevcairiel"lua with apache2"
20:15.52Fisker-Some guy has tried to commit suicide twice now
20:15.53nevcairielwas my search
20:16.10Gnarfozmine was: lua apache
20:16.13PheredhelGnarfoz: as it can read from and write to STDIN/STDOUT yes, you can use lua to write cgi scripts
20:16.16Gnarfozit's still on the first page ;>
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20:16.43Pheredheland you dont need an apache addon for this ...
20:16.51Gnarfozgreat, their page is brogen :>
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20:17.16nevcairieljust click the project link
20:17.21nevcairieland download from there
20:17.23GnarfozPheredhel: if I can use one, I likely will, seeing the performance benefits this brings for other "also available as cgi" projects :>
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20:17.54Gnarfoznevcairiel: yeah, just commenting - I know how to navigate the web ;) (would've asked if anyone knew a different host for it, otherwise ^^)
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20:24.54Shirikns identify
20:25.03Mudkipzno
20:25.05*** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ
20:25.14Shirik=(
20:25.20Mudkipzlol
20:26.02nevcairielyou forgot your password in the typo
20:26.03nevcairiel:P
20:26.55Shirikthat is exactly why I don't use my password in it anymore
20:27.00ShirikI did that a while back
20:27.05Shiriksince then, I linked IPs to ns
20:27.12Shirikso I don't have to type the password anymore =P
20:27.27TheKarni just set my server password to my nick password
20:27.29TheKarnworks for me
20:27.55nevcairielsame
20:28.08nevcairielbut ip would work
20:28.23TheKarnhmm ... can someone change nick to mine so i can set up my autoghost?
20:28.24NightHawkTheSanex-chat has a nickserv password field, which is nice.
20:28.47Gnarfozgreat, now my xchat/w32 build doesn't like my mouse anymore :<
20:29.01Strigoinevcairiel may i ask smth, using bartender 3 and can't figure out 1 thing: is there a way to switch .. lets say bar 3 to bar 4 page without using modifier or stance conditions.. with macros-like command so i can bind it to some key
20:29.12Matrix110Btw anyone here know about some exploit/bug that you play a Rated Arena Game but get no rating and cant see oposite team name?
20:29.22Matrix110we had it twice now-.-
20:29.34Matrix110want to know if its a Blizzard bug or some exploit
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20:30.58Fisker-1+1 = 2
20:31.03Shiriklies
20:31.08Shirikit's obviously 10
20:31.13Fisker-lolwut
20:31.14Fisker-it's 11
20:31.23GnarfozI got a t-shirt that says that, Shirik :>
20:31.29Shirikoh? from where?
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20:31.54CIA-2203kemayo * r42770 10AuldLangSyne/ (Fu/Fu.lua Sync/Sync.lua):
20:31.54CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
20:31.54CIA-22-Fu: .independentProfile=true.
20:31.54CIA-22-Sync: Check for unitname('player')==name when syncing, to catch people with legacy data.
20:31.57MikkThere are only three kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary, those who do not, and Fisker-
20:32.09Shirikrofl
20:32.12GnarfozShirik: mine was from getdigital.de, but thinkgeek has them, too - depends on where you live :)
20:32.40ShirikI've got a lot of shirts from thinkgeek but I don't think I've ever seen that, just what Mikk said
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20:32.54Shirik"There's only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those that do not"
20:32.57Gnarfozyeah
20:33.06Gnarfozbut I'm quite sure they're not missing out on that one, I haven't actually looked :D
20:33.11Fisker-nono
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20:33.13MikkOh, wait, I fucked up, didn't I
20:33.16cogwheelThere are two types of people in the world
20:33.17MikkThere are only 11 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary, those who do not, and Fisker-
20:33.18Fisker-There are only 11 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary, those who do not, and Fisker-
20:33.21Fisker-fuck you Mikk
20:33.22cogwheel1) those who need closure
20:33.34wogiHey, i need help with ag_unitframes. When I have alt/control key pressed and left click on my self or on a partymember, i cant select him. It only works without alt! But alt is very important to me since i use it for special hotbars. any help?
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20:34.12GnarfozShirik: indeed, it seems like they only have the sentence that's been hot in here for the last 3 minutes and the binary "you are dumb" shirts
20:34.32Gnarfozbleh
20:34.33GnarfozI need http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/9505/
20:34.34Mudkipz(-_\\\
20:34.43Gnarfozhope getdigital adopts that one soon :D
20:35.02MudkipzI would love owning those shirts just for the sake of owning them
20:35.11Mudkipzbut wearing them in public is another story
20:35.27ShirikWell I have a few from thinkgeek :)
20:35.34Shirikmy signature is one of them
20:35.45Mikkthinkgeek t-shirts have the sad trait of falling apart if you wash em more than a dozen times
20:35.46Mudkipzpersonally I would wear the +1 shirt and +1 hat in public
20:36.01Mudkipzit's discreet enough that only certain people will understand
20:36.04Shirikthe /(bb|[^b]{2})/
20:36.17Gnarfozhrm
20:36.19Shirik"There's no place like 127.0.0.1"
20:36.24Gnarfozlol Shirik
20:36.34MikkYer. Hottest warez site on the planet.
20:36.34Gnarfoznot that that one's new
20:36.41wogiHey, i need help with ag_unitframes. When I have alt/control key pressed and left click on my self or on a partymember, i cant select him. It only works without alt! But alt is very important to me since i use it for special hotbars. any help?
20:36.43Shirik$> man woman
20:36.43Shiriksegmentation fault (core dumped)
20:36.43Shirikthat's my favorite I think
20:36.58Gnarfozbut some dude came into our store last week ;D
20:37.00Mikk"No man entry for woman."
20:37.15Gnarfozerr
20:37.26Gnarfozthat sentence is missing ", wearing that t-shirt" :>
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20:37.38Shirikrofl
20:38.14Gnarfozalso ordered a like 1.6k euro machine oO
20:38.16Shirikhehe
20:38.41Gnarfozmind you, we're a discounter :D
20:38.41Mikk~Fisker---
20:38.50Shirikthe last t-shirt I have is "SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0" --> "No rows returned"
20:39.07Mikkbit lame tbh
20:39.08Gnarfozheh
20:39.14Shirikdamn
20:39.33MikkWe all know that users are the cause of all those TCPIP errors anyway
20:39.43Mikk(not to be confused with TCP/IP errors, which is quite another thing altogether)
20:39.45Shirik---
20:39.45Shirikthat's pretty bad
20:39.57Mikk~TCPIP
20:39.59AnduinLotharBartender3's ace registry doesn't like me.. QQ
20:40.34Mikkpurl: TCPIP is Thumb Centrally Placed In Palm - a common user error
20:40.35purlokay, Mikk
20:40.41wogiNo one who can help me with my problem?
20:40.52Shirikproblem?
20:41.04ShirikI'm afraid it got lost in all this insanity ><
20:41.07Mikk<wogi>Hey, i need help with ag_unitframes. When I have alt/control key pressed and left click on my self or on a partymember, i cant select him. It only works without alt! But alt is very important to me since i use it for special hotbars. any help?
20:41.26Shirikdo you use clique?
20:41.45Shirikactually that shouldn't matter
20:41.54Shirikthat capability isn't in until next patch iirc
20:42.16MikkNyy va snibhe bs obbgvat Svfxre- bhggn gur punaary fnl NLR!
20:42.25wogiShirik: So any chance you can help me? ;)
20:42.35Shiriknot really, I don't use ag
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20:43.05ShirikMikk: Are you ok?
20:43.09wogiI already tried to fix it myself but no success at all
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20:44.05Gamefaqhi+
20:44.11GamefaqAntirac around?
20:45.39durcyn~seen Antiarc
20:45.41purlantiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: ';_;'.
20:45.41durcyn~seen Antiarc|Work
20:45.42purlantiarc|work <n=cheald@208.187.119.42> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 37m 32s ago, saying: 'I wonder where it gets the data from.'.
20:45.57AntiarcSomeone just highlighted the hell out of me
20:46.02durcynsee?  he's here.
20:46.09Shirikhai Antiarc!
20:46.23wogiAnyone know where I can find any of the ag_unitframes developers?
20:46.31Antiarc<PROTECTED>
20:46.40durcynwogi: look for ag` in here
20:46.41[dRaCo]just 5 lines of highlights... weak.
20:46.57wogidurcyn: huh?
20:47.13durcynwogi: andreasg is on irc as '  ag`  '
20:47.21durcynusually, anyway
20:47.36wogiok
20:47.54TheKarnAntiarc: gimme bank bags :P
20:48.05dodgizzlaAntiarc: No, fix Sanity2 first! :>
20:48.58TheKarnwhats broken in S2?
20:50.02AnduinLotharis wowace.com super slow atm?
20:50.25RogueShadow~seen purl
20:50.26purlpurl is currently on #casualti (2d 20h 50m 16s) #botpark (2d 20h 50m 16s) #linuxfund (2d 20h 50m 16s) #wowi-lounge (2d 20h 50m 16s) #edev (2d 20h 50m 16s) #fossfund (2d 20h 50m 16s) #hosernet (2d 20h 50m 16s) #norganna (2d 20h 50m 16s) #ud (2d 20h 50m 16s) #dub (2d 20h 50m 16s) ...
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20:50.27Mikkhmm no
20:50.55AnduinLotharthe adservers were taking forever to connect to
20:51.17TheKarnadservers?
20:51.18Shirikis for me
20:51.18Shirikbut that means nothing
20:51.30Fisker-oh hai
20:51.32Shirik"freenode: orwell.freenode.net:6667 connected: 27m lag: 20617ms"
20:51.52TheKarnthats some lag
20:52.17NightHawkTheSaneWait, so does that mean you're living 20 seconds in the past?
20:52.20NightHawkTheSane:P
20:52.34TheKarnwow
20:52.43TheKarni'm reading echo's of the past
20:52.52MudkipzNightHawkAtWork, you could say the same between timezones
20:53.06TheKarnor - as far as Shirik is concerned i'm speaking to him from the future
20:53.07NightHawkTheSaneMudkipz: wrong user, and I do! ;)
20:53.11Mudkipzbooo
20:53.14NightHawkTheSanePeople in britain are LIVING IN THE FUTURE! at least to me. >.>
20:53.25TheKarnthat's because we're pro
20:53.32Mudkipzit all depends on the observer
20:53.39Mudkipzlight we get from stars in the sky are years old
20:53.40Punkie`I am in the future!
20:53.43ShirikTheKarn: ?
20:53.48Punkie`Fear my spork NightHawkTheSane!
20:53.53NightHawkTheSaneor, alternately, people in japan are living in THE WORLD OF TOMORROW!
20:53.54Shirikoh
20:53.54Shirikha
20:53.57*** join/#wowace Parak (n=profi@user-387hhso.cable.mindspring.com)
20:54.01Mudkipzwe could be watching them die and it they would already be long gone in their present time
20:54.27NightHawkTheSaneMudkipz: exactly. How do I know that Punkie` hasn't died in the past hour, and i just don't know yet!
20:54.31Punkie`I will wrap it in a GB flag for you and send it, it'll arive now in your time! *queues twilight zone music*
20:54.31mitch1#char eu Bloodscalp Yuriko
20:54.33ThraeBotmitch1: Yuriko, Level 70 Gnome Mage (10/0/51). 6593 HP; 8966 Mana; 333 Sta; 467 Int; 211 Spi; 997 Armour; 29 mp5; 5.14% dodge; +5.31% spell hit; +143 spell crit rating; 487 +spell dmg; 529 +heal. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodscalp&n=Yuriko
20:54.39AnduinLotharQuestion on ace registry: Are passValue's of groups automaticly passed to their children args? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table doesn't seem to indicate this, but Bartender3 assumes that it does for the stance options
20:54.54Punkie`#char eu Kazzak Punkie
20:54.55liquiem#char eu destromath dnk
20:54.56ThraeBotPunkie`: Punkie, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (41/20/0). 8684 HP; 516 Sta; 477 Agi; 3236 Armour; 23.26% dodge; +12 resilience; 1615 AP; 1459 RAP; +25.96% melee crit. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Punkie
20:54.57ThraeBotliquiem: that is not the character you're looking for!
20:55.00Punkie`im so awesome
20:55.01MudkipzNightHawkTheSane, I wonder what happens when we go beyond the speed of light
20:55.06wogi_Hey, i need help with ag_unitframes. When I have alt/control key pressed and left click on my self or on a partymember, i cant select him. It only works without alt! But alt is very important to me since i use it for special hotbars. any help?
20:55.09Mudkipzwill be travel to the future O_o ?
20:55.21liquiem#char eu destromath smeà
20:55.21ThraeBotliquiem: that is not the character you're looking for!
20:55.25NightHawkTheSaneMudkipz: I think the past, if you agree with relativity
20:55.27liquiem#char eu destromath smeá
20:55.28ThraeBotliquiem: that is not the character you're looking for!
20:55.35liquiemmeh
20:55.42wogi_#char eu destromath felgore
20:55.42ThraeBotwogi_: Felgore, Level 70 Undead Warlock (43/7/11). 11980 HP; 7405 Mana; 852 Sta; 338 Int; 136 Spi; 1251 Armour; 7 mp5; 4.28% dodge; +168 resilience; +5.15% spell hit; +23 spell crit rating; 751 +spell dmg; 651 +heal; +27 shadow dmg (778); +35 arcane resist. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=destromath&n=felgore
20:56.05Mudkipzsometimes I wish we weren't self aware of our own existance
20:56.09Mudkipzlike animals
20:56.11NightHawkTheSaneGiven that as you approach the speed of light, time passes slower for you. So at precisely equal to the speed of light, you'd be "stopped" in time, faster than light would then go backwards?
20:56.25mitch1is KTM->Threat-1.0 reading broken somehow?
20:56.34mitch1I can only see half of the raid's threat
20:56.48Punkie`works for me
20:57.00NightHawkTheSaneOf course, I believe relativity also says it's impossible for an item with mass to travel at the speed of light, as your mass also increases as you approach c. But I'm not up on my quantum theory, honestly.
20:57.06Mudkipzsolution! convert all to Omen
20:57.10Gagorian#char eu alakir gagorian
20:57.11ThraeBotGagorian: that is not the character you're looking for!
20:57.14Gagorian#char eu al'akir gagorian
20:57.16ThraeBotGagorian: Gagorian, Level 70 Orc Warlock (40/0/21). 9660 HP; 7105 Mana; 620 Sta; 318 Int; 192 Spi; 2529 Armour; 4.24% dodge; +11 resilience; +13.63% spell hit; +229 spell crit rating; 1156 +spell dmg; 986 +heal; +111 frost dmg (1267); +162 shadow dmg (1318). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=al'akir&n=gagorian
20:57.27MudkipzNightHawkTheSane, let's not get into that
20:57.38NightHawkTheSaneMudkipz: you totally started it. :P
20:57.47Mudkipzyeah I know ;_;
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20:58.05liquiem#char eu destromath Sméa
20:58.06ThraeBotliquiem: that is not the character you're looking for!
20:58.15liquiemthat's madness!
20:58.32liquiem#char eu destromath Sm%E9a
20:58.33ThraeBotliquiem: that is not the character you're looking for!
20:58.51liquiemThrae: ThraeBot's #char search bugs :(
20:58.54AnduinLotharcan you whisper him if you're gonna be spamming plx
20:59.28TheKarn#char eu daggerspine karnicus
20:59.30ThraeBotTheKarn: Karnicus, Level 70 Undead Priest (14/0/47). 6871 HP; 8610 Mana; 366 Sta; 418 Int; 209 Spi; 1282 Armour; 24 mp5; 4.86% dodge; +16 resilience; +3.33% spell hit; +108 spell crit rating; 637 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (816); +179 shadow dmg (816). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=daggerspine&n=karnicus
20:59.42TheKarndamn i suck
20:59.52Mudkipzarmory ugh.
21:00.53NightHawkTheSaneThrae: Your bot needs to reply in a whisper by default.
21:02.42Funkeh`#char eu arathor funkydude
21:02.45ThraeBotFunkeh`: Funkydude, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (13/0/48). 7241 HP; 8370 Mana; 403 Sta; 402 Int; 198 Spi; 1294 Armour; 21 mp5; 4.82% dodge; +7.53% spell hit; +193 spell crit rating; 916 +spell dmg/heal; +54 frost dmg (970); +156 shadow dmg (1072). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=arathor&n=funkydude
21:03.05MikkADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED: AddOn 'IgnoreMore' tried to call the protected function 'TargetofTargetFrame:Hide()'
21:03.08MikkORLY?
21:03.21AnduinLotharowned
21:03.27AnduinLotharloose taint
21:04.26Mikkweird tho. only happened that once.
21:05.02Nickenyfiken#char eu outland trollfager
21:05.04ThraeBotNickenyfiken: Trollfager, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/42/19). 7299 HP; 6560 Mana; 224 Str; 432 Sta; 206 Agi; 238 Int; 127 Spi; 4614 Armour; 24 mp5; 12.91% dodge; 5% block; 1296 AP; 924 RAP; +25.33% melee crit. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=outland&n=trollfager
21:05.20Funkeh`#char us Illidan nymbia
21:05.22ThraeBotFunkeh`: Nymbia, Level 70 Gnome Mage (0/38/23). 9913 HP; 8651 Mana; 655 Sta; 446 Int; 159 Spi; 1941 Armour; 5.7% dodge; +257 resilience; +3.73% spell hit; +217 spell crit rating; 776 +spell dmg/heal; +10 arcane resist. || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=nymbia
21:05.43Funkeh`wtf more dodge than me
21:05.48Funkeh`bullshit
21:05.50nymbiaclearly outplated
21:05.58nymbias/plat/play/
21:06.04Arrowmaster#char us burninglegion tokrim
21:06.05ThraeBotArrowmaster: that is not the character you're looking for!
21:06.06Funkeh`plate also? :/
21:06.10Arrowmaster#char us burning legion tokrim
21:06.11ThraeBotArrowmaster: Tokrim, Level 70 Orc Warlock (42/0/19). 8290 HP; 7105 Mana; 483 Sta; 318 Int; 146 Spi; 1216 Armour; 4.24% dodge; +6.18% spell hit; +74 spell crit rating; 748 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (927); +314 shadow dmg (1062). || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=burning legion&n=tokrim
21:06.16dodgizzlaUuh we posin?
21:06.20dodgizzla#char eu frostmourne natsume
21:06.20Nickenyfikendamn I'm so angry now. We had the best raid setup ever in Kara tonight and stupid Opera gets bugged
21:06.22ThraeBotdodgizzla: Natsume, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (14/0/47). 7551 HP; 8910 Mana; 434 Sta; 438 Int; 196 Spi; 1262 Armour; 29 mp5; 6.18% dodge; +5.71% spell hit; +145 spell crit rating; 826 +spell dmg/heal; +54 frost dmg (880); +156 shadow dmg (982). || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=frostmourne&n=natsume
21:06.26Kalman|#char us eldre'thalas corrode
21:06.28ThraeBotKalman|: Corrode, Level 70 Draenei Priest (14/0/47). 6941 HP; 7665 Mana; 373 Sta; 355 Int; 192 Spi; 1303 Armour; 29 mp5; 4.86% dodge; +5.95% spell hit; +116 spell crit rating; 805 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (984); +179 shadow dmg (984). || http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=eldre'thalas&n=corrode
21:06.42liquiemlol :(
21:06.48RogueShadowdoesn't handle spaces
21:06.50TheKarnThrae:  you need to urlencode the url
21:06.51liquiemyou need better gear
21:07.06TheKarns/ /%20/
21:07.08TheKarnetc
21:07.09Mudkipzis this epeen flexing hour?
21:07.26dodgizzlayep
21:07.26Mikkmy momma codes better than your momma
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21:07.40Arrowmasterhmm weird i must have logged off without felarmor up
21:07.47TheKarnmy mumma codes assembler, yours codes php.
21:07.49Funkeh`well so far i own everyone
21:07.51Funkeh`even nymbia
21:08.02mitch1how come omen says nobody is using compatible client, yet I still can see _some_ of the member's threat
21:08.14liquiemFunkeh` :)
21:08.16smoke_klh threat meter threat?
21:08.21Gnarfozmitch1: omen's version check checks for Threat, not KTM
21:08.26liquiem#char eu frostwolf razek
21:08.28ThraeBotliquiem: Razek, Level 70 Undead Mage (40/21/0). 6933 HP; 8951 Mana; 372 Sta; 466 Int; 231 Spi; 1386 Armour; 26 mp5; 5.34% dodge; +11.41% spell hit; +383 spell crit rating; 874 +spell dmg/heal; +116 frost dmg (990); +166 arcane dmg (1040); +217 fire dmg (1091); +10 shadow resist. || http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=frostwolf&n=razek
21:08.39mitch1ok
21:08.49mitch1still don't know who broke half of the clients :)
21:09.03mitch1everyone _should_ have some version of KTM installed
21:09.21mitch1brb, maiden
21:09.37mitch1hope I won't pull agro... :(
21:09.42Gnarfozclass?
21:09.46benDoes anyone else still get this "disconnect during fight and then unable to reconnect until out of combat" thing still?
21:09.50nymbiaFunkeh`:  :(
21:09.50benIs that related to any addons?
21:10.10Mikkif you're ranged and pull aggro on maiden, your tank needs to be shot
21:10.25Gnarfoznymbia: has the tattle dataminer got any ability to log or debug what it's doing? it keeps producing incomplete rips for me :\
21:10.39MudkipzMikk, just quit the game lol
21:10.40Anmoch_mitch1: i think when antiarc nailed down a race in the translation code the changelog said something about declaring it incompatible
21:11.18wogi_Hey, i need help with ag_unitframes. When I have alt/control key pressed and left click on my self or on a partymember, i cant select him. It only works without alt! But alt is very important to me since i use it for special hotbars. any help?
21:11.49Mikkwogi_: try disabling everything except agUF first. is the problem gone? if so, it's some other addon's fault.
21:11.56Mikktry finding which addon
21:12.11Mudkipzerrr
21:12.29wogi_I did already
21:12.32wogi_Its a agUF problem
21:12.33Mudkipzwogi_, left clicking with no modifiers are supposed to select people be default
21:12.42nymbiaGnarfoz: maybe blizzy changed it up again
21:12.47wogi_yes, but i want to use alt and left click as well to select people
21:12.54Mudkipzalt + left clicking is usually some kind of modifier for other things
21:13.06Mudkipzwogi_, that's just redudant
21:13.10Gnarfoznymbia: dunno, I keep getting some battlegroups, but non-consecutive ones ;\
21:13.18Mudkipzredundant*
21:13.21wogi_and?
21:13.27wogi_I want it to be disabled.
21:13.45wogi_I don't want ag tools to care what key is pressed when i try to select people
21:14.17Mikkinstall click2cast, set the alt+click action to be "select unit"
21:14.18Mikkproblem solved
21:14.22Mikkor same in clique
21:14.26Mikktho i don't know the name there
21:14.28Mudkipz^ yup
21:14.33Fisker-man
21:14.43Fisker-if only girls were as easy as those in the spammails i recieve
21:14.58Mikkmailorderbrides.ru
21:15.05Mudkipzhahhahaha
21:15.12EraosWTB: macro to loot the last creature that I killed.
21:15.21MikkEraos: forget about it. can't be done
21:15.30Mudkipzthat's just lazy
21:15.34EraosI thought so, but I wanted to be sure.
21:15.47NightHawkTheSaneit takes one click. You'd have to use a click or keypress to hit the macro anyway.
21:15.50EraosMudkipz: no, what it is is -- "don't make me reach for the frigging mouse"
21:15.53NightHawkTheSaneso its not even lazy, its just outright stupid.
21:16.01MudkipzEraos, lol?
21:16.05Mikkbut, yeah, it's somewhat annoying that you can't game with your right index finger in your nose and only steering with keyboard
21:16.06Mudkipzhow do you play? without a keyboard?
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21:16.21Mudkipzdo you turn with your keyboard too?
21:16.28EraosYes.
21:16.29MikkWTB "loot my last target" button
21:16.38Mudkipzhmm o
21:16.39Mudkipzk
21:16.42MikkNonmacroed
21:17.01EraosI should have been clearer: WTB way to loot corpses with only the keyboard.
21:17.22MikkMug o coffee in right hand = argh for grinding
21:17.24NightHawkTheSanenot going to happen, use your mouse. Welcome to 1984.
21:17.31GagorianSo it's even easier to create bots?
21:17.33GagorianSURE
21:17.33Mudkipzhahaha
21:17.42MikkAs if bot users have ANY problem whatsoever now even
21:17.55wogi_Mikk: oh yes it works with click2cast, but is there no nicer solution? ;)
21:18.12MikkAnd the underlying assumptions for denying us loot-via-keyboard are kinda gone
21:18.18EraosNo kidding, Mikk.
21:18.21Mudkipzwogi_, depends on what you mean by "nicer"
21:18.22MikkYou can't control your toon except via hardware events anymore
21:18.39wogi_Mudkipz: Modifiying ag_unitframes to not look for alt/control keys etc
21:18.55MikkYou'd need to talk to andreasg for that
21:19.11Kalman|Mikk: Which makes me wonder how Synergy-controlled machines work, given that they get their keypresses via network.
21:19.54MikkKalman|: That's only a demonstration of how easily blizz' controls are circumvented. Write your own keyboard driver and voila.
21:20.01wogi_Mikk: Alright, thank you anyway. Works fine like it is now ;)
21:20.31Arrowmastereven autoit produces hardware events
21:21.34Arrowmasterthe no loot-via-keyboard and hardware keypresses to move are there to make it so people cant abuse ingame addons to do bot like stuff
21:21.36EraosThe fight against botting is Blizz's problem; and one that I wish them luck for.  Refusing the ability to loot with the keyboard is an asinine response, however.  It's like requiring the mouse to send a tell as a measure to fight spammers.
21:22.26MikkArrowmaster: Of course. Noone's complaining about requiring HW events to move. But since that system has been in place since 1.6... where's the problem with allowing loot via keyboard?
21:22.38MikkCan't bot with addons at all
21:23.20MikkYou can bot just fine with a whole bunch of freely available software tho
21:23.23Mudkipza feature like that would be handy on kael'thas when everyone is scrambling for the pile of weapons
21:23.28MikkJoe User can google it in minutes
21:23.32MikkSo why can't we loot with keyboard >.<
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21:24.39EraosIt is made doubly as annoying in that Blizz has done a pretty good job otherwise -- other than camera look, you can largely play the entire game without reaching for the rodent.  It's not like you require a mouse to fight or kill a monster.  Why the hell do they make you reach for it _after_ each fight?
21:24.39Arrowmasteri could maybe see them allowing it if the mob you wanted to loot was already targeted
21:24.52Gnarfozthat'd also entail giving us interact-with-npc-by-keyboard functionality, yay :>
21:24.59MikkArrowmaster: yeah, ofc
21:25.02GnarfozArrowmaster: ofc
21:25.15Eraos"Loot my last kill" or somesuch.
21:25.16GnarfozI guess no one would be asking for 'loot nearest corpse'
21:25.20Eejwell duh, it's to make botting harder
21:25.55MikkEej: does botting seem hard to you? seem like they're using the UI much at all?
21:25.57Arrowmasterdoes targetlasttarget work on dead mobs?
21:25.58EraosEej: it makes only a minimal difference to botters.  See my point about fighting spam by requiring a mouse to send a tell.
21:25.59Gnarfozbotting isn't hard at all - it just requires outside programs
21:26.05Mudkipzhow would you raid without a mouse...
21:26.12Mudkipzthis is madness
21:26.15Mikkbotting COULD be done with in-game APIs earlier
21:26.16Mikkit can't anymore
21:26.21Gnarfozno, this is #wowace, Mudkipz ;p
21:26.29benokay seriously
21:26.32MikkMudkipz: you can raid without a mouse just fine tbh
21:26.38bencan having lots of ace addons cause latency in combat
21:26.40Eejhell if I know
21:26.48bendo you guys send random communication stuff all over the raid or something
21:26.51Arrowmasteri leveled my rogue to like 48 or something using EasyRogue
21:27.25Mikkben: Certainly! Every single one! We're all out to ruin raid latency! Muahah!
21:27.37Arrowmasterthat was perty close to botting since all i did was spam 1 button to kill shit
21:27.46benwell fuck you i am going back to cosmos >:(
21:28.08Mudkipz./popcorn
21:28.10benTruly, you are a comedic genious.
21:28.14benus.
21:28.16benwhatever.
21:28.21Eraoshehehe
21:28.23N|healmuthkik
21:28.25N|healmuthlol
21:28.30N|healmuthhahahhaha
21:28.37N|healmuthFUCK YOU IM GOING BACK TO COSMOS
21:28.48Eejway to be late to the joke
21:29.04N|healmuthIm always late but good
21:29.05Mudkipz‹ +Mikk › Mudkipz: you can raid without a mouse just fine tbh --- I'd like to see that
21:29.24Gnarfozdepends on class
21:29.27Mikkgranted, you'd prolly want to be ranged
21:29.33Mikkmelee wouldn't do so well :S
21:29.41Gnarfoznah, except turning, melee should also be fine
21:29.49Mudkipzwhat about healing?
21:30.05durcynhealing is even easier, set keybinds a-z for raid targeting
21:30.06EraosMudkipz healing is even easier.  F1/F2/F3/F4/F5 + heal
21:30.10durcynor a-y rather
21:30.18Mudkipzyou heal the raid with binds?
21:30.20benI do not know, but I did consider this a quite reasonable question. Surely you can tell me whether anyone has so far observed disconnects related to having loads of addons doing stuff
21:30.25Eraos... or what durcyn said if you need to heal the entire raid.
21:30.35durcyni don't, but i could
21:30.43Mikkben: It's certainly a possibility
21:30.45durcynalt-h, /cast bandage
21:30.48MudkipzI would like to see it done
21:30.52Gnarfozben: get a broader version of broadband internet? disable addons. two choices ^^
21:30.58Arrowmasterben: what kinda disconects?
21:31.00Mudkipzit maybe possible but is it practical
21:31.04Arrowmasterlike "disconnected from server"
21:31.10benYeah, that kind.
21:31.15Gnarfozwhat other disconnects are there? :D
21:31.19durcyni'm going to videotape myself keyboard turning on KT for you, mudkipz
21:31.23benI am in SSC, and during the lurker and karathress fights, I got disconnected.
21:31.29Mudkipzdurcyn, oh joy
21:31.35EraosMidkipz: more practical than exacerbating RSI by coddling the mouse O-o
21:31.39benOne during a spout (underwater, drowned) and twice right after pulling Karathress
21:31.40Gnarfozwow will give that message, regardless of what really caused the disconnect ;>
21:31.49Arrowmasteri would say make sure your addons are updated, there was something with acecomm a while back i think
21:32.02MudkipzEraos, ok thanks
21:32.04durcynfps is fucked up in the lurker part of ssc for everyone i've talked to, blame blizzard.
21:32.20Mikkthere was something with omen too where it'd go bonkers if set to broadcast KTM-style messages
21:32.23benArrowmaster: I am pretty sure I had wau update all addons this week
21:32.28bendurcyn: Not fps, network latency
21:32.30Mikkbut that was like last week
21:32.37Gnarfozhm
21:32.43Gnarfozdoes wowhead have an irc channel?
21:32.47Gnarfozor rather
21:32.56GnarfozBibi: how do you do the itemlink stuff on your page? :>
21:33.19BibiI cry, I cry, and I cry more
21:33.20Mudkipzdurcyn, when should I expect this fraps?
21:33.22Arrowmasteri think bibi just uses the armory not sure though
21:33.24Bibiand eventually, my coder wrote soemthing to do it
21:33.26benDidn't lots of people report something where they were unable to reconnect during combat?
21:33.28Bibisomething, ffs
21:33.29benWas that resolved?
21:33.42durcynMudkipz: 14th of Octuary
21:33.47Bibiotherwise, there is a wowhead plugin for itemstats on forums.eqdkp.com
21:33.48Mudkipzcool
21:33.55Bibithis should let you do nearly the same as what I do
21:34.02Mikkben: I _think that was the last patch. But I could be wrong.
21:34.03GnarfozBibi: hrm ok, figured somethingl ike that
21:34.16Mudkipzben, when was the last time you logged in?
21:34.28benMudkipz: Uh, ten minutes ago?
21:34.36Mudkipzand you can't reconnect during combat?
21:34.51benWell, apparently I can if I log on another character before doing that
21:34.58Mudkipzthat's odd
21:35.03benbut I got disconnected right away like ten times so far
21:35.08CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r42771 10LittleWigs/ (CoT/BlackMorass.lua HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua): LittleWigs: Update zhTW translation.
21:35.13benonly getting a single frame before getting kicked
21:35.13Mudkipzwere you in a raid ben?
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21:35.25benYeah
21:35.31Mudkipzya that's a common bug
21:35.42Mudkipzyou need to ask the RL to boot you from the raid when you log in
21:35.57CIA-2203zuno * r42772 10UnitActionBars/Action.lua:
21:35.57CIA-22UnitActionBars:
21:35.57CIA-22- Revision modification
21:36.13MudkipzI thought they fixed it but it still happens to me -sometimes-
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21:36.34Gnarfozthat fix is in 2.1.3, not 2.1.2, isn't it?
21:37.05benOkay, I guess it is just bad-quality dormitory networking then :/
21:37.12CIA-2203jncl * r42773 10Skinner/UIElements1.lua: Skinner: Correctly position LootFrame when 'Open at Mouse' option chosen
21:37.48Gnarfozhttp://wow.buffed.de/item/28796.gif <- anyone know an item stats page that does something like this, but in english? they create gif-images of the item tooltips and make them available to be linked to. neat for forums/pages that don't have built-in [item] bbcode...
21:38.40benAny idea what causes the disconnected-if-in-a-raid thing? Like, is it a lot of addons doing a lot of initialisation because there are a lot of people around and thus WoW not answering to some ping requests or something? D:
21:39.16mitch1ok, the omen bug seems to be related to the pullout bar
21:39.49mitch1if that's out, I get really funny readings
21:40.09Gnarfozit is (or was?) wow getting overwhelmed by the amout of event spam joining or rather, logging into a raid group, so much that it times out and doesn't answer its own heartbeat packets in time
21:40.21benThat is what I meant 8)
21:40.42benCan an addon prevent other addons from registering events?
21:40.57vhaarryes it can
21:40.58benSomeone like !!warmup could go and break RegisterEvent or something and restore it after like ten seconds
21:41.03Mudkipzstopthespam?
21:41.18Mudkipzbut that's only in chat meh
21:41.44Gnarfozben: that'd work, but break all addons that register events in the process. you'd probably have to reload ur UI afterwards, anyway.
21:42.10benGnarfoz: Would it be realistic to just queue the events and manually emit them spread out over a half a minute?
21:42.23Gnarfozcan't queue events
21:42.26Gnarfozthey happen
21:42.51Gnarfozblizzard could, I don't know what their approach to fix this was or is
21:43.19Cryectnot trigger so many events?
21:43.24CryectI mean they didn't do it before
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21:43.36Arrowmaster#api UnitCreatureType
21:43.37ThraeBotArrowmaster:   local creatureType = UnitCreatureType(unit)
21:43.43Gnarfozyeah, that would probably be one of the possible solutions :D
21:44.10Gagorianoh, that's nice
21:44.11ArrowmasterUnitCreatureType is localized right?
21:44.16Gagorianyar
21:45.13ThraeArrowmaster: Yes
21:45.16ArrowmasterGagorian: did you see my changes to rogue data file
21:46.02Arrowmasteri kinda just riped the stuff for murder from the paladin stuff, but i just realized it only works on en locale
21:47.15CIA-2203adirelle * r42774 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua:
21:47.15CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
21:47.15CIA-22- properly unbind at start of combat.
21:50.21CIA-2203zuno * r42775 10UnitActionBars/ (43 files in 8 dirs):
21:50.21CIA-22UnitActionBars:
21:50.21CIA-22- Revision changes (properties)
21:50.36GagorianArrowmaster: Well the rest works only in EN as well
21:50.50Gagorianwhich is ghey
21:50.54Gagorianperhaps babblerace
21:50.55Arrowmasterhuh?
21:51.36GagorianI just confirmed what you said ;)
21:51.57GagorianSo far I've ignored the fact that it only works on en
21:52.03Arrowmasteroh
21:52.29GagorianNobody has complained so they must not care enough!
21:52.56GagorianMurder is perhaps more important
21:53.05GagorianSo, we could add the types into BabbleRace
21:53.26GagorianGood work, anyway
21:53.35GagorianSaved me some time
21:56.17Arrowmasteri started to so some stuff with the School on each ability but then stoped, was going to add "Physical" to the rest of them and stuff like "Bleed" (will be needed because of a warrior talent i think and mangle) and "Finisher" but after looking at the caster code it seemed like i might not want to do that without knowing exactly how its used
21:57.19CIA-2203zuno * r42776 10UnitActionBars/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
21:57.19CIA-22UnitActionBars:
21:57.19CIA-22- toc changes in embedded plugins
21:59.29CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r42777 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Curator.lua Maiden.lua Netherspite.lua WizardofOz.lua): BigWigs: Tweak zhTW translation.
22:03.31ArrowmasterGagorian: i did notice something that might be a problem, some abilitys like envomon and arcane shot do magic damage and are effected by magic damage effecting debuffs but are physical/ranged attacks that use physical/ranged ap/hit/crit
22:06.09sbumhh
22:06.16sbubigwigs prince error
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22:06.26sbutranslation missing
22:06.30sbu(in enUS!?!?)
22:07.41sbu"enfeeble_warning"
22:08.09sbuused in line 247 self:DelayedMessage(25, L["enfeeble_warning"], "Attention")
22:08.12sbu[Ammo], vhaarr *ping*
22:08.35sbubut message string only exists for enfeeble_warning1 and enfeeble_warning2
22:11.11Funkeh`shieldb: can you kill skulker and nethermage timers on leo death
22:12.43CIA-2203nevcairiel * r42778 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar: fix and tweak enfeeble warning on engage
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22:13.03nevcairielthere :P
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22:16.22CIA-2203zuno * r42779 10UnitActionBars/filelist.wau:
22:16.22CIA-22UnitActionBars:
22:16.22CIA-22- Attempting making mod a package
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22:19.07benIs there an action bar addon that does not use the built in button slots but instead saves all buttons on the clientside or something?
22:19.11benThat is possible, right?
22:19.28nevcairielthats possible, but i dont know any
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22:29.33CIA-2203zuno * r42780 10UnitActionBars/ (7 files in 6 dirs):
22:29.33CIA-22UnitActionBars:
22:29.33CIA-22- Renaming files/directories for packaging
22:32.30CIA-2203zuno * r42781 10UnitActionBars/ (30 files in 5 dirs):
22:32.30CIA-22UnitActionBars:
22:32.30CIA-22-
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22:56.59Gnarfozwill svn autoprops set the props on add, modify or commit?
22:59.49CIA-22ow
22:59.57Gnarfozis it ded?
22:59.58Gnarfoz:\
23:00.32CIA-2203murazorz * r42783 10Diplomat/Libs/: Diplomat: Removed AceLocale
23:00.47Gnarfozseems so, it skipped my commit, lol
23:01.17Gnarfozor rather, it didn't get it
23:01.44GnarfozKaelten: any size limitations on the CIA "hook" (if there even is one, dunno how that is accomplished, at all)?
23:02.02CIA-2203gnarfoz * r42782 10Tattle/ (28 files in 25 dirs): Tattle - EU data update (complete, this time), added EU-Vindication back in, seems it got lost?
23:02.06Gnarfozah lol.
23:02.09GnarfozKaelten: nevermind
23:02.38Kaeltener me no know
23:02.40CIA-2203murazorz * r42784 10Diplomat/Libs/AceLocale-2.1/: Diplomat: Removed AceLocale (again)
23:02.55liquiemAntiarc, for supremus fight, how does omen handle the phases? there's no npc module?
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23:06.16CIA-2203zuno * r42785 10UnitActionBars/ (UnitActionBars.toc embeds.xml filelist.wau modules.xml):
23:06.16CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:06.16CIA-22- Rearranging for packaging
23:06.26Adirelletrh: any news with last rev ?
23:06.46trhAdirelle: wait, gonna test now =)
23:07.06AnduinLotharNew Ace2Khaos: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7317-Ace2Khaos.html
23:09.06JaxonWhat is this Khaos thing?
23:10.04trhAdirelle: seems fine :)
23:10.59Adirelletrh: nice, just need to wait for feedback from other classes
23:11.05Fisker-Khaos is another library thingy right?
23:11.59KeiasNice AnduinLothar
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23:17.50MikkAnduinLothar: Do you have multilevel passing groups working btw? They work in AceConsole and Dewdrop now :S
23:17.53CIA-2203murazorz * r42786 10Diplomat/ (Core.lua Diplomat.toc embeds.xml):
23:17.53CIA-22Diplomat
23:17.53CIA-22<PROTECTED>
23:17.53CIA-22<PROTECTED>
23:17.53CIA-22<PROTECTED>
23:18.03trhAdirelle: although.. i wonder a bit about the main hand / off hand option as i'm wearing a 2handed axe ;)
23:19.08Chompersi guess CooldownCount is the best icon timer out?
23:19.16Chompersor is there something better
23:20.13durcynCooldownCount or OmniCC, take your pick
23:20.39MorghusChompers: Been using coolDown for ages as a druid ( shifting hides buttons and such ). Doesn't miss any cooldowns
23:21.11durcynhe meant for the actionbar cooldown model
23:21.25durcynas for ability/trinket cd bars, i really recommend hourglass over cdt or coolDown
23:22.01Eraoshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98641627&sid=1 <-- if anyone is interested in voting for keyboard-accessibility to corpse looting.
23:22.12AnduinLothari don't remember mikk. haven't run into any addons that actually do it
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23:22.42liquiemyeah, make it joe casual easier to bot with just a g15!
23:23.22MikkAnduinLothar: Violation uses it
23:24.18Eraosliquiem: I'm sick of people discriminating against the keyboard in fear of bots.  You can bot with a mouse requirement, too.  Fight bots -- but don't punish users everywhere because you're so scared stiff of botting. >.<
23:26.38liquiemo0, why not autowalk if you're into it
23:27.35Eraos... because I'm not asking for autowalk (which they already have, to a degree -- I have it bound to '.').  I can _move_ from the keyboard already, that isn't the problem.
23:27.59CIA-2203celellach * r42787 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
23:27.59CIA-22AtlasLoot:
23:27.59CIA-22- Fixed some items and typos.
23:27.59CIA-22- Made the AB Set page linked from and back to the AB reward page.
23:27.59CIA-22- Reordered the rep.lua in an alphabetical order for easier searching.
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23:30.28CIA-2203funkydude * r42788 10BigWigs_BWL/Vaelastrasz.lua: BigWigs_BWL: Vaelastrasz: bugfix
23:33.48AnduinLotharmikk: guess not. still errors on VIolation
23:34.12GnarfozFunkeh`: doing classic again? ^^
23:34.55Funkeh`Gnarfoz: aye
23:35.12Funkeh`now i fix my dodgy cleanups
23:37.17MikkEraos: otoh, it's _possible_ that you could rig some mouse-via-keyboard thingy and just keep the pointer centered
23:37.33MikkAnd bind some nice key to right mouse button action
23:38.24MikkYou might have to move your toon a bit to get the pointer over a corpse if you're outta luck, but it's still not moving your RSI'd arm over to the mouse
23:39.03MikkHey, I might go looking at that myself some day. I like having my coffee in my right hand too much =)
23:39.04EraosYeah.  May look into that Mikk, thanks.  Will still try to get Blizz to do the right thing, though.
23:39.11EraosHehe Mikk :P
23:40.41MikkWouldn't mind it if the same button interacted with NPCs
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23:40.49MikkThen again most stuff you do at an npc wants mouse input
23:41.19EraosYeah.  The NPC stuff doesn't bug me so much because it is much less common than corpse looting.
23:41.34MikkFunny tbh. Nearly everyone @ work has had RSI-ey symptoms at one time or another.... Everyone except for the smokers :P
23:41.50Eraoshahaha
23:41.52EraosLOL
23:41.58EraosThat's an interesting correlation. :)
23:42.18EraosI can see the slogan now: "The prevention for RSI is here!  Smoke lots!"
23:42.25Mikk\o/
23:42.51MikkNah, but 3-minute microbreaks once an hour would obviously work miracles
23:43.02MikkMaybe some light stretching would be preferable to smoking tho =)
23:43.58EraosHehe.  Yeah I have a timer that locks my screen for 3m every 60m :)
23:44.19Mikko, nice
23:45.10Gnarfozsrsly, how mad are this Vurtne guy's skills? oO
23:45.51CIA-2203zuno * r42789 10/trunk/ (UnitActionBars/uab_CTRAFrames/ uab_CTRAFrames/):
23:45.51CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:45.51CIA-22- Moving CTRA Frames plug-in under main add-on
23:47.58CIA-2203zuno * r42790 10UnitActionBars/ (FrameGroupCTRA/ uab_CTRAFrames/):
23:47.58CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:47.58CIA-22- Renamed
23:48.27Adirelletrh: 2hand => main only
23:48.32CIA-2203zuno * r42791 10/trunk/ (UnitActionBars/uab_IceHUD/ uab_IceHUD/):
23:48.32CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:48.32CIA-22- Relocating IceHUD frame support
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23:49.00trhAdirelle: guessed that, but shouldn't the off hand setting be hidden then? =)
23:49.05CIA-2203mitchell * r42792 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua:
23:49.05CIA-22RangeCheck-1.0:
23:49.05CIA-22<PROTECTED>
23:49.05CIA-22<PROTECTED>
23:49.16CIA-2203zuno * r42793 10/trunk/ (UnitActionBars/uab_oRA2Frames/ uab_oRA2Frames/):
23:49.16CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:49.16CIA-22- Relocating oRA2 frame support
23:49.37mitch1mikk: OnUpdate() works for tooltip parsing, thanks for the idea
23:50.00CIA-2203zuno * r42794 10/trunk/ (UnitActionBars/uab_PerlClassicFrames/ uab_PerlClassicFrames/):
23:50.00CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:50.00CIA-22- Relocating Perl frame support
23:50.20Adirelletrh: erh... well... maybe
23:50.43CIA-2203zuno * r42795 10/trunk/ (UnitActionBars/uab_PitBullFrames/ uab_PitBullFrames/):
23:50.43CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:50.43CIA-22- Relocating PitBull frame support
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23:51.20CIA-2203zuno * r42796 10/trunk/ (UnitActionBars/uabLayout_Pyramid/ uabLayout_Pyramid/):
23:51.20CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:51.20CIA-22- Relocating Pyramid layout support
23:52.04CIA-2203zuno * r42797 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
23:52.04CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:52.04CIA-22- Relocating missing buffs support
23:52.39CIA-2203zuno * r42798 10/trunk/ (UnitActionBars/uabStatus_UnitClass/ uabStatus_UnitClass/):
23:52.39CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:52.39CIA-22- Relocating unit class status support
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23:53.37CIA-2203zuno * r42799 10UnitActionBars/ (FrameGroupIceHUD/ uab_IceHUD/):
23:53.37CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:53.37CIA-22- Renamed folder
23:53.43Cryectso uh zuno...
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23:54.03CIA-2203zuno * r42800 10UnitActionBars/ (FrameGroupoRA2/ uab_oRA2Frames/):
23:54.03CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:54.03CIA-22- Renamed folder
23:54.25CIA-2203zuno * r42801 10UnitActionBars/ (FrameGroupPerlClassic/ uab_PerlClassicFrames/):
23:54.25CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:54.25CIA-22- Renamed folder
23:54.33durcynjesus christ, zuno
23:54.46CIA-2203zuno * r42802 10UnitActionBars/ (FrameGroupPitBull/ uab_PitBullFrames/):
23:54.46CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:54.46CIA-22- Renamed folder
23:54.47CryectI wonder if he knows he can do more than operation per commit?
23:54.50Gnarfozhe's not here :>
23:55.04Gnarfozand that might depend on his client^^
23:55.06Shirikwhat are you talking about
23:55.11Shirikyou should only do one file per commit!
23:55.16CIA-2203zuno * r42803 10UnitActionBars/ (StatusUnitClass/ uabStatus_UnitClass/):
23:55.16CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:55.16CIA-22- Renamed folder
23:55.20ShirikThat was your log files are extremely specific :D
23:55.24Shiriksee? Renamed folder
23:55.33Shirik=P
23:55.34Trancercan't he like... make all changes at once and then commit ><
23:55.34CIA-2203zuno * r42804 10UnitActionBars/ (StatusMissingBuffs/ uabStatus_MissingBuffs/):
23:55.34CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:55.34CIA-22- Renamed folder
23:55.37Cryectyeah, rename folders is too ambigious
23:55.40CIA-2203mitchell * r42805 10RangeCheck-1.0/notes.txt: RangeCheck-1.0: removed false information
23:55.45Shirikwell see no that's not the point
23:55.50Shirikby saying "renamed folder"
23:55.56Shirikyou can then go and see exactly what folder was renamed!
23:56.02Trancer:p
23:56.03CIA-2203zuno * r42806 10UnitActionBars/ (LayoutPyramid/ uabLayout_Pyramid/):
23:56.03CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:56.03CIA-22- Renamed folder
23:56.04Cryecthehe :p
23:56.05ShirikThus, one rename per commit
23:56.19Trancerhow many directories that does that unitactionbars has ><
23:56.20Shirikseriously though I'm going to hurt that guy in a second
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23:57.41Strangehey gang -- quick question -- are any events fired when someone set "Main Tank" "Main Assist" using the blizz UI?
23:57.52Adirellenight
23:58.06KemayoPresumably he's doing it with TortoiseSVN's repo browser.
23:58.06Shirikwhat do those things even do anyway
23:58.32Shirik.. why
23:58.34Mikkyou can pull em out from the raid pane
23:58.41Mikkoh, the renames
23:59.01Mikkgood question... i don't see why stuff internal to the addon needs to have "uab" prefixed to it
23:59.21nevcairielhe renamed them from uab to without i think
23:59.52Gnarfozperhaps he wants to make them LoD-extractable later on
23:59.54Gnarfozwhatever

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