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| 00:01.06 | ckknight | purl sux |
| 00:01.07 | purl | it has been said that sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root : http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about." |
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| 00:02.10 | Tanja | hi |
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| 00:05.47 | Antiarc | Guildmate's getting an oRA error after update: Options.lua like 98, global "mod" is nil |
| 00:06.07 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r42438 10cyCircled/plugins/AutoBar.lua: |
| 00:06.07 | CIA-22 | cyCircled: |
| 00:06.07 | CIA-22 | - Move update code into SetStyle |
| 00:06.25 | bigzero | could blizzard have been selfish enough to make autoloot a server-side script? |
| 00:07.26 | Antiarc | Err. It is, isn't it? |
| 00:08.08 | bigzero | yup...i just realized that it had to be |
| 00:08.15 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r42439 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua ChangeList.lua Core.lua Style.lua): |
| 00:08.15 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 00:08.15 | CIA-22 | -- 33042:7200 Black Coffee |
| 00:08.15 | CIA-22 | -- Fix cyCircled timing issue |
| 00:08.15 | CIA-22 | -- Spell categories converted |
| 00:08.19 | Jaxon | Hmm |
| 00:08.25 | Jaxon | What is this k17 spot on my baggins now |
| 00:09.10 | Hjalte | keyring |
| 00:09.37 | bigzero | if you shift-right-click from far away and have to run to the body, it would make sense I guess to make it server-side. like you can't really test for IsAutoLootKeyDown for the LootFrame OnShow event |
| 00:09.42 | Jaxon | Figures, now to find a way to stop it from showing in my "Other" category. |
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| 00:11.42 | Jaxon | Well, that was simple enough. |
| 00:12.29 | binder | everytime I create a new char my quests foo will only display one word per line until i relog a couple of times it seems |
| 00:12.40 | binder | lol I mean questfu |
| 00:14.05 | art3mis | anyone know a good tiny clock widgit? |
| 00:14.12 | art3mis | that displays time and day and date? |
| 00:14.20 | ckknight_ | ClockFu? |
| 00:14.22 | binder | miniclockfu? |
| 00:14.23 | art3mis | but isnt attached to a bar and can be resized? |
| 00:14.28 | art3mis | oh i mean for winders |
| 00:14.31 | art3mis | sorry |
| 00:14.32 | ckknight_ | oh |
| 00:14.36 | art3mis | fergot where i was |
| 00:14.47 | art3mis | im running emerge |
| 00:14.59 | art3mis | as my desktop but thier "built in clock" is ugly as sin |
| 00:15.11 | art3mis | desktop/shell |
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| 00:20.31 | CIA-22 | 03ricowan * r42440 10FuBar_RicoXPFu/ (FuBar_RicoXPFu.toc RicoXPFu.lua bar.tga): FuBar_RicoXPFu: - Added a progress bar behind the text, and an item in the config menu to toggle it. |
| 00:22.26 | ckknight | art3mis: gentoo? |
| 00:22.44 | Jaxon | I always just used the clock that was on the xfce-panel |
| 00:22.54 | Jaxon | But that doesn't fit your constraints. |
| 00:23.17 | art3mis | XP |
| 00:23.23 | art3mis | using the emerge shell |
| 00:24.10 | Jaxon | I'd check out the Litestep forums. Though it is an entirely different project, you might find a solution. |
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| 00:26.40 | Anmoch | g'night and thanks for the help and such |
| 00:27.47 | Arrowmaster | ok i swear there has to be some kinda memory leak in Cartographer_Fishing |
| 00:28.27 | Arrowmaster | its at +3.61mb since last GC and all im doing is flying around the lakes in nagrand |
| 00:28.44 | Arrowmaster | but the odd thing is that i have the display on the minimap disabled |
| 00:28.59 | trh | look at the code ;) |
| 00:29.26 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42441 10oRA2/Options.lua: oRA2: Options: Bugfix for people not running FuBar. |
| 00:29.35 | vhaarr | Antiarc: fixed |
| 00:29.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42442 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: |
| 00:29.40 | CIA-22 | .AceModuleCore-2.0 - add :IterateModulesWithMethod("method") |
| 00:29.40 | CIA-22 | - add :CallMethodOnAllModules("method", ...) |
| 00:29.53 | Antiarc | Thanks. |
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| 00:31.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42443 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - use :CallMethodOnAllModules |
| 00:31.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42444 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - use :CallMethodOnAllModules |
| 00:31.21 | Arrowmaster | so yeah i can get Cartographer_Fishing up to 100 kb/s increasing memory usage just by flying around the lake north of garadar in nagrand |
| 00:31.39 | Arrowmaster | when it shouldnt be doing anything at all |
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| 00:37.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42445 10Parrot/ (Parrot.lua embeds.xml libs/): Parrot - add AceModuleCore-2.0 to the list of libraries. Probably best to make this modular ASAP. |
| 00:38.26 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude 07SimpleChatMods * r42446 10funkydude/channelnames.lua: SimpleChatMods: add LFG |
| 00:38.50 | Zicon | Parrot, now. |
| 00:39.17 | Funkeh` | what in the name of god is parrot |
| 00:39.24 | trh | ace-sct |
| 00:39.25 | vhaarr | it's a norwegian blue |
| 00:39.33 | vhaarr | SCT is already using the Ace2 libraries. |
| 00:39.39 | Funkeh` | sct is hardly ace |
| 00:39.41 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:39.56 | Jaxon | vhaarr: this parrot is nailed to its perch! |
| 00:40.25 | vhaarr | well of course it's nailed there! |
| 00:40.34 | Wobwork | This is an EX-PARROT =( |
| 00:40.54 | vhaarr | if I hadn't nailed it, it would've muzzled up those bars, bent them apart with its beak |
| 00:40.55 | Wobwork | PS did we really need AceSCT? |
| 00:40.58 | vhaarr | and flewn away |
| 00:41.14 | vhaarr | VOOM! |
| 00:42.03 | vhaarr | flown? |
| 00:43.06 | kenlyric | flown |
| 00:43.09 | Awaa | Are Parrot usable ? |
| 00:43.10 | Wobwork | flown |
| 00:43.13 | kenlyric | or flew |
| 00:43.25 | Wobwork | nah, past tense |
| 00:43.29 | Wobwork | 'flown away' |
| 00:43.55 | Wobwork | or rather past tense absolute |
| 00:44.07 | Wobwork | since it's not the chance that it'll fly away, it's that it would |
| 00:44.16 | kenlyric | The bird has flown away. The bird flew away. |
| 00:44.18 | Wobwork | Maybe =P |
| 00:44.33 | Wobwork | well in the context offered, not changing the rest of the sentence |
| 00:44.44 | Wobwork | would've flew away/would've flown away |
| 00:44.49 | kenlyric | yeah, in the example it should be flown. |
| 00:45.21 | kenlyric | flain |
| 00:45.21 | Wobwork | Anyway, that aside.... do we really need an AceSCT? |
| 00:45.31 | Wobwork | what's wrong with SCT/MSBT? |
| 00:45.35 | kenlyric | don't we already have an ace SCT? |
| 00:45.52 | Wobwork | I thought MSBT was |
| 00:46.01 | Wobwork | and to that extent so was SCT |
| 00:46.15 | vhaarr | Wobwork: What's wrong with SCT is that it eats memory, and it causes FPS lag. |
| 00:46.15 | ZealotOnAStick | MSBT to my knowledge isn't, SCT sorta is. |
| 00:46.20 | kenlyric | sct is in the SVN. It seems to use profiles (though not a default one) |
| 00:46.55 | Wobwork | can't we work with Greyhoof to make it better? |
| 00:47.01 | vhaarr | I would hope so |
| 00:47.03 | Wobwork | instead of writing a new one? |
| 00:47.05 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 00:47.09 | Wobwork | Please? |
| 00:47.29 | durcyn | diversity encourages innovation |
| 00:47.30 | Keias | ckknight wants to conquer all aspects of the UI |
| 00:47.33 | Keias | or some such thing |
| 00:47.44 | ckknight | Wobwork: I tried. |
| 00:47.47 | vhaarr | the norwegian blue prefers keeping on its back! |
| 00:47.53 | vhaarr | remarkable bird |
| 00:48.08 | ZealotOnAStick | If ck can make a better one that's more efficient . . . why -wouldn't- we want it? |
| 00:48.11 | ckknight | Wobwork: but sct is locked, so it's unhackable, and whenever I submit patches, they've taken about a month before they happen. |
| 00:48.19 | ckknight | if they do happen |
| 00:48.23 | Wobwork | right... |
| 00:48.39 | vhaarr | yeah, because he uses the wowace svn as a release mechanism |
| 00:48.44 | ckknight | so no, we apparently can't work with Greyhoof, at least not in the way I want to |
| 00:48.45 | Zicon | More importantly, do we want a ckknight who's bored from a lack of things to do? ;P |
| 00:49.01 | Wobwork | 'work with' being 'free access' no doubt =P |
| 00:49.21 | ckknight | oh yes. |
| 00:49.26 | ckknight | hackability above all |
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| 00:49.51 | Wobwork | So what is so memory inefficient with SCT? |
| 00:49.56 | mjc | anyone on a mac? I dualboot on the same WoW install and need the .app's cause I last patched in windows |
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| 00:50.41 | vhaarr | Wobwork: I didn't say it was inefficient, I said it eats it |
| 00:50.42 | mitch0 | vhaarr: any thougths on my closetgnome patch? |
| 00:50.46 | vhaarr | mitch0: no |
| 00:50.52 | mjc | LOL |
| 00:50.57 | mjc | vhaarr ftw |
| 00:51.10 | vhaarr | well for all I know, it might not be SCT's fault |
| 00:51.16 | Wobwork | eating memory is efficient? |
| 00:51.17 | vhaarr | I haven't studied the code |
| 00:51.22 | mitch0 | fair enough ;) well, it works for me, so no worries here :) |
| 00:51.25 | Wobwork | ... |
| 00:51.25 | dodgizzla | Hm, anyone knows how that Ace'd PowerAura 2 thingie is coming along? |
| 00:51.33 | Wobwork | >< |
| 00:51.42 | mitch0 | anyway, nighty night |
| 00:51.43 | Wobwork | This is what gives Ace a bad name =P |
| 00:51.51 | vhaarr | what ace, it uses parser-1.1 |
| 00:52.09 | Wobwork | Not SCT, Parrot. |
| 00:52.15 | kenlyric | what gives Ace a bad name? that they want to make better mods? |
| 00:52.18 | vhaarr | Parrot gives Ace2 a bad name? |
| 00:52.23 | vhaarr | I think the name 'Parrot' is nice |
| 00:52.30 | Keias | lol |
| 00:52.41 | Wobwork | That there is minimal effort to make current mods better, but only to "Make a new mod that does the same thing but only Ace" |
| 00:52.47 | Keias | I think the only possible way for something to make Ace look bad is if it's overly bloated just to be Ace |
| 00:52.54 | vhaarr | Wobwork: I've tried talking to greyhoof as well |
| 00:53.00 | Keias | like a cooldown timer converted to Ace, which it'd have no need to be. |
| 00:53.02 | vhaarr | Wobwork: if you read the SCT thread, you'll see that |
| 00:53.02 | ckknight | Wobwork: I'm not doing this because SCT isn't ace enough. |
| 00:53.08 | ckknight | I'm doing this cause I can't hack SCT. |
| 00:53.11 | ckknight | it's that simple. |
| 00:53.14 | Wobwork | Write it in Dongle =P |
| 00:53.14 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:53.15 | Wobwork | I dare you |
| 00:53.16 | ravagernl | lmao, ck going crazy |
| 00:53.21 | vhaarr | Wobwork: why? |
| 00:53.24 | ckknight | Wobwork: lol, why would I? |
| 00:53.30 | ckknight | I'd prefer to use Ace2 |
| 00:53.30 | Wobwork | I'd like to see it actually work that way |
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| 00:53.42 | vhaarr | you're not making sense |
| 00:53.44 | Wobwork | Think of it as a challenge |
| 00:53.55 | ckknight | um, no thanks, I'd prefer to write a good mod than to have a challenge |
| 00:53.59 | vhaarr | now that's what I call a dead parrot! |
| 00:54.02 | ckknight | though writing the mod itself is a challenge |
| 00:54.04 | mjc | haha |
| 00:54.17 | ckknight | and why wouldn't I want to use Ace2? It has all the nice features I'm going to need |
| 00:54.26 | ckknight | if you notice, I just did a commit to AceModuleCore |
| 00:54.32 | ckknight | I'll be using that feature in Parrot |
| 00:54.43 | ckknight | and I don't want to have to write it all over again in Dongle |
| 00:54.45 | ckknight | there's no real point. |
| 00:55.08 | ckknight | also, you're free not to use Parrot |
| 00:55.12 | ckknight | I don't plan on forcing anyone |
| 00:55.13 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r42447 10FuBar_WhisperFu/FuBar_WhisperFu.toc: |
| 00:55.13 | CIA-22 | FuBar_WhisperFu: |
| 00:55.13 | CIA-22 | - Fixed note tag for koKR |
| 00:55.14 | Wobwork | oh naturally |
| 00:55.31 | Wobwork | I've never let anything like framework 'force' me into anything =P |
| 00:55.32 | QQngsk | Ckknight is cornering the market on addons. |
| 00:55.40 | QQngsk | I see an antitrust suit coming in no time. |
| 00:55.44 | mjc | ckknight is the Apple of AddOns |
| 00:55.46 | ckknight | QQngsk: manifest destiny |
| 00:55.51 | Keias | rofl mjc |
| 00:56.01 | Wobwork | More the MS =P |
| 00:56.06 | Wobwork | with the whole look-and-feel thing |
| 00:56.07 | ravagernl | you know I think cartographer needs to be renamed to Giraffe |
| 00:56.21 | Keias | Something like an Eagle |
| 00:56.26 | Keias | Since it has great sight and all |
| 00:56.55 | ravagernl | But giraffe's are cooler then eagles |
| 00:57.44 | mjc | cartographer is a perfect name |
| 00:58.23 | Keias | It's ruining the animal theme! |
| 00:58.31 | Keias | same with Fubar |
| 00:58.37 | Keias | Should be ChameleonBar imo |
| 00:58.52 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r42448 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: |
| 00:58.52 | CIA-22 | .SharedMedia-1.0: |
| 00:58.52 | CIA-22 | - Take the odd font exceptions for zhTW and apply them to zhCN as well. |
| 00:58.52 | CIA-22 | - Drycoded; if anything breaks, blame Funkeh`. |
| 00:58.52 | CIA-22 | - For the record, I think these hardcoded overrides are a terrible way to accomplish this, the fonts should simply be added to the list for zh/kr clients instead of overriding the standard fonts. |
| 00:59.03 | Funkeh` | heyhey |
| 00:59.10 | nymbia | ;) |
| 00:59.11 | Funkeh` | whats all this lies being throw around |
| 00:59.48 | mjc | ckknight: do you still use OSX? :P |
| 01:01.21 | Wobwork | SCT uses parser 3, btw |
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| 01:02.04 | ckknight_ | bah |
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| 01:02.31 | ckknight | I missed apparently 5 minutes of clearly titillating conversation |
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| 01:03.37 | ckknight | lua> print("pants") |
| 01:03.38 | cladbot | ckknight: pants |
| 01:03.40 | ckknight | woo |
| 01:03.48 | mjc | heh |
| 01:04.02 | Strigoi|lr | hmm just notices that squeenix don't move MinimapCluster frame so it bloats invisible in top right part of my screen |
| 01:04.03 | trh | i wonder... |
| 01:04.04 | cladbot | zomg pants! |
| 01:04.19 | Strigoi|lr | *noticed |
| 01:04.44 | ckknight | lua> return "everyone likes teh pantzors" |
| 01:04.44 | cladbot | ckknight: everyone likes teh pantzors |
| 01:05.00 | clad|away | ckknight: You had a few that broke the bot earlier |
| 01:05.13 | clad|away | i've got one hole I haven't plugged, heh |
| 01:05.22 | ckknight | oh, I forget how I broke it, now |
| 01:05.36 | mjc | ckknight: poke |
| 01:05.39 | ckknight | lua> local s = "" for i = 1, 1e5 do s = s .. "pants" end print(s) |
| 01:05.47 | clad|away | lua> print("Heyas") print("PRIVMSG #wowace :You shoudl not get this message\r\n") |
| 01:05.47 | ckknight | something like that |
| 01:06.06 | ckknight | mjc: oucies |
| 01:06.08 | ckknight | ouchies* |
| 01:06.15 | mjc | do you still use OSX? :P |
| 01:06.17 | ckknight | clad|away: did I break it again? |
| 01:06.19 | ckknight | mjc: sure do |
| 01:06.43 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r42449 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:06.43 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:06.44 | CIA-22 | - Fixed typo in TK legendary weapons. |
| 01:06.44 | CIA-22 | - Connected the Heroic Badges pages together. |
| 01:06.46 | ckknight | mjc: what's your email? |
| 01:06.54 | mjc | mjc@325i.org |
| 01:07.15 | clad|away | ckknight: not sure, its still running, heh |
| 01:08.04 | clad|away | looks like it was the crazy print, i may have removed that guard =) |
| 01:08.08 | clad|away | back to the drawing boad |
| 01:08.54 | ckknight | mjc: k, it's going, but big, so I'll tell you when it's done |
| 01:09.03 | mjc | thankee |
| 01:09.10 | mjc | it'll probably end up on my iPhone too :x |
| 01:10.17 | ckknight | 6 megs |
| 01:10.30 | mjc | no big deal |
| 01:12.13 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42450 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 01:12.13 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 01:12.13 | CIA-22 | - Optimizations to threat publishes |
| 01:12.13 | CIA-22 | - Additional protections to translations. If our second last target switch was less than 2 seconds before our last target switch, we won't reply to queries since we can't be sure which target they want. |
| 01:12.13 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a bug that prevented translation from activating in certain group configurations that it should have activated in. Last compatible revision updated accordingly. |
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| 01:20.13 | Neebler | /msg nickserv set unfiltered on |
| 01:20.30 | Neebler | to send/recieve private messages, once you've registered your nick |
| 01:21.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42451 10Parrot/Parrot.lua: Parrot - added a simple way to show text, recycles frames et al, and makes em animated. Use Parrot:ShowMessage("text") to test. API will change. |
| 01:22.37 | Neebler | cuh caw caw! |
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| 01:22.44 | ckknight | I should install SCT/MSBT to see how they do things |
| 01:23.12 | Neebler | ~seen grayhoof |
| 01:23.31 | purl | i haven't seen 'grayhoof', Neebler |
| 01:23.31 | ckknight | he doesn't come to IRC |
| 01:23.44 | ravagernl | better just ask mikk |
| 01:23.57 | ckknight | I don't mean ask em how they do it |
| 01:24.01 | ckknight | just look and see the general UI |
| 01:24.08 | ckknight | I can code everything, no sweat |
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| 01:25.52 | Gagorian | Parrot = ~SCT à la ckknight? |
| 01:25.57 | ckknight | yep. |
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| 01:26.02 | abyssichate | Are you going to code a scrolling combat text addon^ |
| 01:26.04 | Gagorian | Interesting. |
| 01:26.05 | abyssichate | Oh, you are already on it |
| 01:26.17 | lhunath | is it known that baggins has a lot of issues with rightclicking items while at the bank? |
| 01:26.23 | abyssichate | That'll keep you quite busy I guess, good luck |
| 01:26.58 | ckknight | abyssichate: won't be that hard, really |
| 01:27.10 | ckknight | I mean, by making it modular, it cuts down on maintenance time immensely |
| 01:27.12 | Neebler | ckknight has an obsession with animals lately it seems. FuBar 2 will be renamed "Ferret" down the line, just wait and see |
| 01:27.30 | ckknight | Ferret's not bad |
| 01:27.38 | ckknight | and also by relying on libraries instead of doing it all there, I save an immense amount of time |
| 01:27.43 | ckknight | especially wrt Parser-3.0 |
| 01:27.47 | trh | i propose dachshund :P |
| 01:27.48 | abyssichate | Parrot is not a so good name though :( |
| 01:27.49 | ckknight | and the core Ace2 |
| 01:27.53 | ckknight | abyssichate: yes it is. |
| 01:27.54 | trh | (for fubar) |
| 01:28.02 | ckknight | trh: nah, don't want to do another canine |
| 01:28.30 | Neebler | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gender_names |
| 01:28.34 | abyssichate | One thing I really like about MBST is the ability of setting up triggers that get fired whenever a certain event occurs (like a buff gain) |
| 01:28.49 | trh | ckknight: hmm.. maybe felines |
| 01:28.56 | trh | ckknight: or tortoise ;) |
| 01:28.57 | ckknight | abyssichate: you will have that possibility. |
| 01:29.03 | ckknight | abyssichate: to the nth degree. |
| 01:29.14 | trh | uh.. better not use tortoise/snail |
| 01:29.15 | ckknight | I want the config to be nice |
| 01:29.17 | abyssichate | well, I am already pretty sure I'll switch to Parrot once it becomes functional so np |
| 01:29.18 | trh | we should reserve that for KTM |
| 01:29.28 | ckknight | abyssichate: yea, gimme like a day |
| 01:29.32 | abyssichate | rofl |
| 01:29.32 | abyssichate | s |
| 01:29.56 | ckknight | I know, you're all laughing at my slow pace |
| 01:30.00 | ckknight | I'll try to get something in a few hours. |
| 01:30.16 | ckknight | I just can't handle the pressure, man! |
| 01:30.21 | Gagorian | ckknight: Allow custom paths for the text.. Like in powerpoint presentations! |
| 01:30.31 | ckknight | Gagorian: was thinking that. |
| 01:30.31 | Gagorian | Like... "EXPLODE" and stuff. |
| 01:30.40 | ckknight | here's what I was thinking: |
| 01:30.45 | mjc | cube ftw |
| 01:30.57 | ckknight | to make a path, you select "create new path", give it a name |
| 01:30.58 | trh | i want vertices that can EXPLODE into millions of parts |
| 01:31.00 | trh | and particles |
| 01:31.03 | GanJa | ckk: Why would you take a mod which has been out there for so long, in fact the creator switched over to using Ace2 and I assume is going to intergrate the mod even more so, and re-write it with your name on it? |
| 01:31.03 | trh | and so on ;) |
| 01:31.10 | ckknight | and then 3 boxes show up on the screen |
| 01:31.13 | ckknight | start, middle, finish |
| 01:31.21 | ckknight | and the text will travel along (on a curve) |
| 01:31.43 | ckknight | GanJa: because the author doesn't come to IRC and his addon is essentially closed, not allowing anyone to commit to it |
| 01:31.46 | Gagorian | GanJa: Because it could use a rewrite with current Ace2 features? |
| 01:31.58 | ckknight | GanJa: also, I'm not taking any of SCT's code. |
| 01:32.04 | trh | ckknight: uh.. nice b-spline stuff? =) |
| 01:32.05 | ckknight | ugly, imho |
| 01:32.26 | ckknight | trh: sure, why not. |
| 01:32.57 | Gagorian | ckknight: That curve idea is nice. Possible to have more "waypoints" than three? |
| 01:33.05 | Neebler | the only thing I use SCT for is to show +combat and -combat. also when riposte is up (rogue) |
| 01:33.08 | ckknight | Gagorian: maybe, who knows ;-) |
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| 01:33.16 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42452 10Omen/ (5 files): |
| 01:33.16 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 01:33.16 | CIA-22 | - Changed default warning sound to None |
| 01:33.16 | CIA-22 | - Added a "Activate with pet" option that should be on by default |
| 01:33.16 | CIA-22 | - Made some optimizations to the threat bars |
| 01:33.16 | CIA-22 | - Added binding to toggle Omen |
| 01:33.18 | ckknight | Neebler: first module will be +/- combat |
| 01:33.23 | trh | with a generic b-spline implementation it'd be not too hard :) |
| 01:33.34 | ravagernl | I want winamp animations :) |
| 01:33.37 | trh | Antiarc: lol@default warning sound :) |
| 01:33.49 | durcyn | speaking of sounds, what happened to BanzaiAlert's non-SML sounds? |
| 01:33.57 | durcyn | that plain old bell was far less annoying |
| 01:36.32 | Acolar | humpf. 220g too much for major spellpower mats :o |
| 01:37.25 | ravagernl | I wonder, parrot is going to use dogtag too, i guess? hihi |
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| 01:38.57 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Will you add a module for user-entered buff gains? E.g. I want to get a big flashy message when my Eye of Magtheridon and Robe of Elder Scribes proccs; and also when I get Power Infusion :D MSBT allows this, but I need to create a trigger for every buff :\ |
| 01:39.08 | ckknight | dodgizzla: things will be _very_ editable. |
| 01:39.18 | dodgizzla | I see.. much <3 from me then :> |
| 01:39.47 | GanJa | Error: Prat - Font Style. Using the current version as of yesterday, after setting the font to "SCT Enigma" it does not load into the chatframes, I have to set it to something else then set it back to "SCT Enigma". Also the Prat does NOT appear in Duececommander and when I first loaded the new version the it did not register in Fubar either. |
| 01:39.50 | dodgizzla | ckknight: While you're at it.. you could also display some custom textures when a trigger activates/fades, much like PowerAuras did :D |
| 01:39.50 | ckknight | you'd basically open the gui, new event, choose "Buff gain", select who to limit it to (self, party, etc.), select what buff, and then select the font, etc. |
| 01:40.05 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r42453 10Decursive/localization.cn.lua: |
| 01:40.05 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 01:40.05 | CIA-22 | - updated zhCN translation |
| 01:40.07 | ckknight | theoretically... |
| 01:40.11 | ckknight | not sure how to approach that, though |
| 01:40.21 | ravagernl | wow, what dodgizzla says, please |
| 01:40.39 | Gagorian | ckknight: Sounds nice. Afaik SCT requires editing lua for custom events, and you needed to merge new changes after updates which sucked. |
| 01:40.50 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Somebody on the forums is working on some ace'd powerauras, lemme find the thread.. |
| 01:41.01 | ckknight | no lua editting will be necessary unless you want to add a new kind of trigger. |
| 01:41.16 | dodgizzla | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5580.0 |
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| 01:41.41 | GanJa | Gag: SCT had a file for custome events, even with a readme which made it simple to make custom events. |
| 01:41.43 | dodgizzla | PowerAuras was one hell to configure, but I like the concept of showing some texture when some events happen |
| 01:41.43 | Gagorian | ckknight: One question. How can you take up so many new projects when you've got the old ones to maintain? :) |
| 01:42.16 | ckknight | Gagorian: both FuBar and Cartographer are stable |
| 01:42.27 | ckknight | PitBull sorta needs work done, but it's not 100% imperative |
| 01:42.38 | ckknight | CowTip is done until someone puts a new wish on the wish list (currently empty) |
| 01:42.50 | ckknight | and I have all my libraries |
| 01:43.01 | ckknight | either way: I'm on top of it |
| 01:43.01 | Gagorian | ckknight: Yeah I guess, they're more static than what I work on. I have my hands full with class changes, new items, testing theories after each patch :) |
| 01:43.15 | ckknight | oh yea, I don't want to deal with that stuff :-P |
| 01:43.31 | mjc | cowtip could use a profile system, like pitbull has/ahd |
| 01:43.32 | mjc | had |
| 01:43.42 | mjc | so people can make sets of dogtag strings to choose from |
| 01:43.58 | Gagorian | I have to test all hidden mechanics, or coerce someone else to test under my guidance.. Which can take hours -_- |
| 01:44.07 | ravagernl | vhaarr: surfacecontrol could change cowtips health and power bars when it loads |
| 01:45.50 | ckknight | mjc: yea, was thinking that |
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| 01:49.01 | mjc | ckknight: also I deleted some text from a string once and had to look at the default array, couldn't figure out how to unset it |
| 01:49.19 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:49.28 | ckknight | yea, the template system could solve that :-P |
| 01:49.40 | mjc | threat display would be sexy for dogtag too; your % threat, list of people who have caused threat on that target, etc. |
| 01:50.44 | ckknight | ah, that's a bit complex :-P |
| 01:50.58 | ckknight | probably better for another module to handle |
| 01:51.01 | ckknight | but quite doable, all in all |
| 01:51.14 | mjc | indeed, thoguht I'd lay stuff out when I thoguht of it :D |
| 01:51.16 | mjc | ugh |
| 01:51.19 | mjc | be nice if I could type |
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| 01:51.57 | trh | auto-completion while typing would be sexy too ^^ |
| 01:52.10 | mjc | iphone does a decent job |
| 01:52.10 | mjc | :D |
| 01:52.19 | trh | mjc: got one? |
| 01:52.32 | mjc | yeah |
| 01:52.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42454 10Parrot/ (EnterLeave/ EnterLeave/EnterLeave.lua Parrot.lua Parrot.toc): |
| 01:52.41 | CIA-22 | Parrot - add EnterLeave module. |
| 01:52.41 | CIA-22 | No options yet, but it actually works :-P |
| 01:52.45 | trh | mjc: worth its money? |
| 01:52.46 | ckknight | mjc: oh yea, the email's gone through |
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| 01:53.00 | mjc | yeah I saw it |
| 01:53.03 | mjc | trh: buggy a little still |
| 01:53.21 | mjc | minor but reproducable segfaults in google maps app, safari |
| 01:53.47 | mjc | AT&T fuckd the 'activate via iTunes' shit |
| 01:53.53 | mjc | I had to put my old sim in my new phone |
| 01:54.02 | trh | don't they got a simlock? |
| 01:54.29 | Chompers | RIP Sausage :< |
| 01:54.34 | ravagernl | mjc: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/want.jpg |
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| 01:54.54 | mjc | trh: AT&T on both |
| 01:55.18 | trh | mjc: ah ok |
| 01:55.20 | mjc | ravagernl: cute |
| 01:55.24 | mjc | it looks better in real life :D |
| 01:56.54 | trh | ah well.. when they come to europe. get umts and are reasonable priced... :) |
| 01:57.15 | kebinusan | and you dont need to sign your soul to AT&T |
| 01:57.18 | ravagernl | and this one is for ckk: http://i0005.photobucket.com/albums/0005/icanhascheezburger/2007/6/12/1/128261114448593750lolcatalignr.jpg |
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| 02:00.16 | art3mis | hah |
| 02:01.12 | art3mis | wierd |
| 02:01.18 | mjc | ravagernl: I love that |
| 02:01.19 | art3mis | fox news was just talking about terror attacks |
| 02:01.26 | art3mis | and now its in test pattern |
| 02:01.28 | mjc | kebinusan: already signed my soul to AT&T anyways |
| 02:01.46 | Chompers | is fox news really that bad? |
| 02:01.51 | mjc | yes |
| 02:01.52 | Chompers | i've never seen it personally |
| 02:02.06 | kebinusan | interesting mjc |
| 02:02.08 | Kaydeethree | meh, it's rare that I ever watch us network news |
| 02:02.23 | Kaydeethree | it's either cnn international or bbc international for me if I'm ever in front of a tv |
| 02:02.25 | mjc | kebinusan: it's not really signing your soul, it's only like $175 cancellation |
| 02:02.28 | Chompers | is that bill o'reilly guy on it? |
| 02:02.45 | kebinusan | I found this rather amusing the other day, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6VdNcCcweL0 |
| 02:02.52 | art3mis | fox news is horrible |
| 02:02.57 | art3mis | but sometimes it's REALLY funny to watch |
| 02:03.06 | Thrae | Chompers: Fox News is a conservative media platform. It isn't a "conspiracy" either -- they're pretty open about it. |
| 02:03.23 | trh | lol.. just turned on tv... didn't worked.. figured out it was the scaffold outside in front of the satellite dish they build up a week ago :) |
| 02:03.24 | Chompers | so they're biased ? |
| 02:03.41 | Codayus | Chompers: Who isn't? |
| 02:03.59 | RogueShadow | ckknight: While working on Parrot. You should keep in mind. I like MSBT best.... ya. I like the animations and how it does it best. and the custom triggers. etc. I just... like it a lot more than SCT for some reason. |
| 02:04.00 | mjc | ckknight: zomg pants |
| 02:04.08 | theoddone33 | following joana's leveling guide as a hunter works a lot better than following it as a paladin |
| 02:04.17 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r42455 10PlayerMenu/PlayerMenu.lua: PlayerMenu: remove unusage code. check FactionGroup and realm before displaying menu items |
| 02:04.40 | trh | theoddone33: hunter solo leveling > nearly every class ;) |
| 02:05.03 | kebinusan | msbt is the sexeh |
| 02:05.20 | ckknight | mjc: teh pantzors |
| 02:05.32 | ckknight | yea, I'm using MSBT as more of a base than SCT |
| 02:05.42 | ckknight | at least as far as people "want" |
| 02:05.48 | ckknight | but really, I'm gonna be taking the best of both |
| 02:05.53 | ckknight | I see MSBT's system as too complex |
| 02:05.57 | ckknight | when it could be much, much simpler. |
| 02:06.16 | ckknight | ravagernl: lol |
| 02:06.19 | kebinusan | ckknight: true, I dont fiddle with the options much, I just find the animation styles easier on the eye tan sct |
| 02:06.22 | kebinusan | *than |
| 02:06.50 | kebinusan | though I admit I havent tried sct in a very long time |
| 02:06.54 | Chompers | more animation styles would be nice |
| 02:07.14 | Chompers | i'm sure ckknight will come up with some new crazy way to show SCT information |
| 02:07.18 | theoddone33 | yeah hunter leveling is crazy |
| 02:07.30 | theoddone33 | I did like 7 quests in ghostlands in half an hour or so |
| 02:07.31 | ravagernl | ckknight: what you gonna do with cats lol |
| 02:07.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:07.48 | RogueShadow | Blood Elf leveling is crazy. |
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| 02:07.55 | theoddone33 | why do you say that? |
| 02:07.56 | ckknight | Chompers: I was talking about arbitrary animations earlier |
| 02:08.04 | Chompers | oh? |
| 02:08.06 | RogueShadow | I have ran 4 guys through Eversong/Ghostlands already, i'm an expert on the area's. |
| 02:08.11 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 02:08.14 | ravagernl | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/i-can-not-has-fish-dont-know-how-to-use-chopstix.jpg |
| 02:08.20 | theoddone33 | draenai starting area is awesome though |
| 02:08.40 | RogueShadow | Well thier aliens! |
| 02:08.43 | dodgizzla | Antiarc: Could you hide the white arrow in the corner when locking Omen? :D |
| 02:09.04 | nn8 | can i ask questions about hot to make ace addons here? |
| 02:09.12 | nn8 | or is there anothe rplace for that? |
| 02:09.20 | nn8 | wow bad spelling there |
| 02:09.53 | RogueShadow | nn8: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Tutorials seems to be a good starting point. |
| 02:10.44 | nn8 | ok thanks |
| 02:10.45 | mjc | sedatedChipmunk: rawr. bmI's take all button still doesn't work |
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| 02:12.01 | dodgizzla | Actually I wanted to ask the same :D |
| 02:12.03 | ckknight | nn8: that's basically here. |
| 02:12.11 | nn8 | o |
| 02:12.12 | ckknight | nn8: but yes, follow the wiki first |
| 02:12.13 | ravagernl | especially http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon is useful |
| 02:12.17 | ckknight | oh, definitely |
| 02:12.17 | dodgizzla | I think I'll have a look at the tutorials first |
| 02:12.20 | nn8 | well im doing the your first addons thing |
| 02:12.42 | ckknight | Chompers: arbitrary pathing, at least |
| 02:12.43 | nn8 | but the files are saving as for example core.lua.txt |
| 02:12.53 | ckknight | nn8: Windows? |
| 02:12.54 | nn8 | not core.lua |
| 02:12.56 | Chompers | sounds decent |
| 02:13.04 | Chompers | how many paths were you planning? |
| 02:13.12 | trh | nn8: use a different editor ;) |
| 02:13.15 | ckknight | Chompers: arbitrary |
| 02:13.19 | trh | nn8: scite or notepad++ for windows |
| 02:13.20 | nn8 | ooo ok thanks :) |
| 02:13.21 | mjc | hmm actually threat in aloft would be way more useful than threat on a tooltip |
| 02:13.23 | Chompers | oh :P |
| 02:13.31 | ckknight | nn8: go to View -> Folder options -> uncheck Hide extensions for known file types |
| 02:13.45 | Kaelten | EditPlus is also pretty good |
| 02:13.48 | ckknight | in Explorer |
| 02:13.56 | Kaelten | I've even used Eclipse with LuaEclipse |
| 02:14.02 | Kaelten | but thats only so so |
| 02:14.04 | Kaydeethree | heh... Kazzak's got a pretty long yell when he spawns |
| 02:14.18 | trh | yike... i hate eclipse when coding java, why should i use it for llua ;) |
| 02:14.28 | nn8 | thanks ckk |
| 02:14.28 | trh | the search (ctrl-f) is the worst one i've ever seen in a IDE |
| 02:14.39 | trh | even notepad++ has a better search :) |
| 02:14.46 | durcyn | the only editor you ever need is vim. |
| 02:14.48 | Kaelten | trh: I use eclipse for python development |
| 02:14.49 | ravagernl | nn8: save with quotes, eg "core.lua" |
| 02:15.05 | Kaelten | trh: with PyDev and some of the web extensions its prett good |
| 02:15.06 | durcyn | nymbia: ping |
| 02:15.07 | Kaelten | pretty |
| 02:15.28 | nn8 | ok |
| 02:15.28 | trh | Kaelten: maybe they extend it, but coding java without any extensions is horrible in it :) |
| 02:15.30 | nn8 | wow |
| 02:15.36 | nn8 | lots of thigns :) |
| 02:15.48 | Kaelten | some of my coworkers like TextMate as the end all beat all editor, and its good but I don't think I like it for python |
| 02:16.32 | trh | durcyn: vim/gvim misses one major feature for me - tabs for multiple files, i don't want to open 10 editor windows or split the screen like 20 times ;) |
| 02:16.37 | RogueShadow | I like Crimson Editor |
| 02:16.55 | Kaelten | Its said the B:Lua stalled out |
| 02:17.04 | Kaelten | er sad |
| 02:17.12 | Kaelten | er sad that |
| 02:17.36 | durcyn | trh: tabs are a gui anomaly. run ten vim sessions in screen. |
| 02:17.54 | Kaelten | durcyn: you're.... scary |
| 02:18.01 | ckknight | <3 TextMate |
| 02:18.14 | dylanm | ckknight: Agreed. It's ripped me away from emacs. |
| 02:18.24 | Kaelten | ckknight: its good, but I don't know, its missing some features and I got tired of searching for more modules. |
| 02:18.26 | trh | durcyn: they make editing more comfortable, that's why nearly every IDE supports them.. so i use them and any editor doesn't support it, lost me :) |
| 02:18.45 | ckknight | has everything I need |
| 02:19.10 | kebinusan | Improved the performance of conditional macros, slightly increasing the framerate. |
| 02:19.17 | kebinusan | interesting change on the ptr patch notes |
| 02:19.23 | ravagernl | damn windows! |
| 02:19.30 | RogueShadow | I would use textmate. if I could |
| 02:19.32 | dylanm | What I like about it is that extending it is trivial. You can make some really useful automations in a couple minutes. |
| 02:19.41 | ravagernl | yeah |
| 02:19.48 | kebinusan | -he Warlock spell Incinerate has had the performance of its graphical spell effect improved. |
| 02:19.49 | dylanm | Kinda miss all of my emacs shortcuts, but I'm sure I could do something about that. |
| 02:19.52 | kebinusan | heh about time |
| 02:19.54 | Kaelten | I'd probably learn to use it more if I had it away from my work |
| 02:20.15 | ravagernl | o yeah, right, warlocks are #1 prio |
| 02:20.33 | Kaelten | but I don't want to spend a bunch of time learning textmate when I can't use it at home :( |
| 02:21.14 | nn8 | just checked to se if my file worked and it did thanks for the help :) |
| 02:21.33 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42456 10DrDamage/ (Data/Priest.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 02:21.33 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:21.33 | CIA-22 | - Some minor optimization |
| 02:21.33 | CIA-22 | - Always hide text frames on actionbar updates before calculating new values. This may not be quite as efficient, but it solves possible issues |
| 02:21.35 | ravagernl | Fixed a crash triggered by many unit frame AddOns. woot |
| 02:23.15 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r101 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Call GameTooltipStatusBar:Show to get the healthbar back on a ClearLines...maybe? |
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| 02:26.49 | Kaydeethree | gah. xchat keeps bailing on me when I switch workspaces. |
| 02:27.28 | ckknight | hrm, is there any way to tell white vs. yellow damage from the combat log? |
| 02:27.35 | ckknight | or how is that even determined? |
| 02:27.43 | ckknight | normal hit vs. hit with spell? |
| 02:28.02 | trh | normal hits = white |
| 02:28.08 | trh | everything other = yellow |
| 02:28.10 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:28.12 | ckknight | thought so |
| 02:28.16 | trh | err.. normal crits are white too |
| 02:28.22 | ckknight | right |
| 02:30.04 | pakoz2 | anyone have ideas on this error -- http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4800/untitledxb4.jpg |
| 02:30.15 | Arrowmaster | melee, shoot, throw, auto shoot are all white, everything else is yellow, and one event is used for white and another for yellow |
| 02:30.36 | pakoz2 | can white crits glance? |
| 02:30.42 | pakoz2 | im a tank so i dont know what crits are >> |
| 02:30.47 | Arrowmaster | i dont think so |
| 02:30.54 | Arrowmaster | if it glances it cant crit i think |
| 02:31.04 | pakoz2 | couldnt work like that tho |
| 02:31.09 | pakoz2 | cuz you glance 30% right? |
| 02:31.13 | Arrowmaster | and glance comes before crit |
| 02:31.17 | pakoz2 | ew |
| 02:31.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah crit rate on auto attack sucks |
| 02:31.35 | Arrowmaster | because of glances |
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| 02:32.33 | kebinusan | glance is 25% I thought |
| 02:35.06 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42457 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
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| 02:39.51 | mjc | just installed parrot :P |
| 02:40.00 | ckknight | mjc: hehe |
| 02:40.02 | ckknight | a bit premature |
| 02:40.30 | mjc | can't hurt really |
| 02:44.12 | ckknight | lemme commit the Damage module |
| 02:47.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42458 10Parrot/ (Damage/ Damage/Damage.lua Parrot.toc): Parrot - add Damage module, very simplistic. |
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| 02:47.51 | PProvost | Evening folks |
| 02:48.08 | ckknight | hey PProvost |
| 02:48.12 | ckknight | you haven't been here in a while |
| 02:48.27 | PProvost | On and off... haven't been on when you were on in a while :) |
| 02:48.42 | PProvost | Repaved computer and forgot to install xchat. :) |
| 02:49.01 | PProvost | It always takes me a while to realize something is missing. :D |
| 02:49.03 | Jaxon | Pitbull is ckk's mod, right? |
| 02:49.11 | ckknight | right |
| 02:49.22 | GanJa | Error: Prat Chatframe, not sure which part of it but when I click on a players name to whisper them I get Player:line# (Ganja:234) as the whisper. goes for the shift click as well. |
| 02:49.40 | Roartindon | ckknight: You may not want Parrot to register /cow :) |
| 02:49.45 | Jaxon | Portraits are staying on, regardless of the modules enabled/disabled status. |
| 02:49.50 | ckknight | Roartindon: whoops |
| 02:50.37 | ckknight | Jaxon: odd, not for me |
| 02:50.57 | ckknight | Jaxon: modules inside or outside of PitBull? |
| 02:51.35 | Jaxon | I just relogged to fix some mispositioned mobs and when I came back, portraits were turned on. The module was disabled, so I enabled and then disabled. I still have portraits with bars all below |
| 02:51.38 | Jaxon | Enabled inside Pitbull |
| 02:52.18 | ckknight | weird. |
| 02:53.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42459 10Parrot/Parrot.lua: |
| 02:53.33 | CIA-22 | Parrot - don't register /Cow, register /Par. |
| 02:53.33 | CIA-22 | - fade out fontstrings at the end. |
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| 02:56.38 | PProvost | Omen question: Is there any way to get "Effective Heals" ala SWStats? I've been trying to convert my guild and the healers want this value. |
| 02:56.47 | PProvost | They say that Effective heal = Healing -(overhealing + healing out of combat). |
| 02:56.52 | PProvost | Or something like that |
| 02:56.56 | Jaxon | PProvost: omen is just a display for Threat |
| 02:57.12 | PProvost | Don't care. :) |
| 02:57.27 | PProvost | Users are askign me a question, I'm asking you guys. |
| 02:57.37 | Jaxon | It wouldn't be the right mod to get that one. |
| 02:57.44 | Jaxon | Beyond scope. |
| 02:57.53 | PProvost | Sorry... I mean Violation |
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| 02:57.57 | PProvost | Whoops. My bad. |
| 02:58.11 | PProvost | Same underlying engine though. |
| 02:58.46 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42460 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 02:58.46 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:58.46 | CIA-22 | - Clear tooltip data table before new tooltip info calculation, not after displaying tooltip which should allow ItemValue_DrDamage to avoid nilling out table fields |
| 03:00.41 | Roartindon | PProvost: Try Assessment? Much heavier than Violation cpu/memory wise, but provides a ton of data |
| 03:01.45 | PProvost | "Much heavier" doesn't sound nice, but I'll take a look. I'm quite happy with Violation, just got the question from my guild Priests. :) |
| 03:02.30 | Gagorian | Roartindon: How would you compare Assessment to Recount? |
| 03:02.50 | Gagorian | (I tried Recount, but the memory it allocates by just storing data is not pretty to look at) |
| 03:02.56 | Roartindon | Gagorian: In terms of memory, far far less |
| 03:02.57 | ckknight | lol, priests don't heal |
| 03:03.06 | ckknight | what do they think they are? pallies? |
| 03:03.08 | ravagernl | idd prayer of mending spam |
| 03:03.15 | Roartindon | Gagorian: Recount doesn't recycle a single table |
| 03:03.45 | Gagorian | Argh |
| 03:03.49 | Gagorian | *Delete* |
| 03:04.14 | Gagorian | It's pretty and all but, still. :) |
| 03:04.21 | Roartindon | Gagorian: Assessment is tagged base, it gathers data, tags specify what to display, how to display it, etc. |
| 03:04.41 | Roartindon | Gagorian: It supports multiple windows |
| 03:05.05 | Roartindon | Gagorian: It supports segmented bar display (eg. http://www.lim.com.au/wow/assessment.jpg ) |
| 03:05.13 | Thorgard | Ugh. Baggins is all messed up. |
| 03:05.23 | PProvost | Yes, Baggins has been screwy for 2-3 days now |
| 03:05.52 | PProvost | Just hoping Kaelten actually finishes categories in OneBag this year. :) |
| 03:06.00 | Gagorian | Roartindon: Sounds nice. How's synching? |
| 03:06.06 | Roartindon | Gagorian: No synching :) |
| 03:06.09 | Kaelten | PProvost: no later than 2010 |
| 03:06.12 | Roartindon | Gagorian: I up my combat log range instead |
| 03:06.12 | Kaelten | promise! |
| 03:06.22 | PProvost | Roartindon, does it do the Effective Heal stat my priests are asking for? |
| 03:06.27 | Gagorian | Partial resists. Sweet. I'll download it |
| 03:07.04 | Roartindon | PProvost: It defaults to not recording data out of combat (including heals).. this can be set to record everything |
| 03:07.16 | pakoz2 | any big wig users here? |
| 03:07.27 | Gngsk | not a one |
| 03:07.38 | ckknight | okay, so I figure right now I'm gonna totally rip off MSBT |
| 03:07.39 | Roartindon | PProvost: If you look at that Raw Healing display, that's just healing done i combat, the bright part = healing, dark = overhealnig |
| 03:07.44 | ckknight | then touch it up after the fact |
| 03:08.13 | PProvost | Okay. Anyone from Violation got any thoughts on the Effective Heal thing? It isn't a deal-breaker, but I'd at least like to be able to tell them yes/no/maybe instead of whoknows. |
| 03:08.47 | PProvost | I suppose I could write a module... hold on... maybe that is the answer... brb |
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| 03:12.36 | Gngsk | who broke ora2 zone check? |
| 03:12.37 | Gngsk | http://ace.pastey.net/70185 |
| 03:12.38 | Gngsk | ! |
| 03:13.32 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42461 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/SoulJarFu.lua: |
| 03:13.32 | CIA-22 | FuBar_SoulJarFu: |
| 03:13.32 | CIA-22 | - Don't trust unit.name provided by rosterlib, use blizzard API instead |
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| 03:14.10 | ravagernl | ckknight, doesn't matter as SCT and MSBT have similiar functionalities, it's just the configuration that is different, people who have been using a lot of addons look for mods with better configuration. Besides, your addons always have some bells other addons may not have. |
| 03:14.32 | ravagernl | and that would be a good forum post lol |
| 03:14.45 | ckknight | lol |
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| 03:16.09 | pakoz2 | anyone have a video with bigwigs in action? |
| 03:16.32 | abyssichate | yeah |
| 03:16.33 | abyssichate | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=42550 |
| 03:16.36 | pakoz2 | awesome thx |
| 03:16.42 | abyssichate | advertising advertising! |
| 03:17.21 | pakoz2 | i was told to try BW over DBM- so i did a karazhan run on my friends character |
| 03:17.28 | pakoz2 | wasnt getting any timers warning etc |
| 03:17.41 | pakoz2 | apparently its not supposed to be like that lol |
| 03:18.15 | Codayus | You should be seeing a *lot* of timer bars and warnings, plus range displays on Maiden and Curator. |
| 03:18.34 | pakoz2 | ya all i got was some blue text saying the curse from attunemen was on me |
| 03:18.50 | pakoz2 | mikk recommended i reinstall, so i did |
| 03:19.02 | pakoz2 | anyway to do like a simulation to make sure its functioning? |
| 03:19.14 | pakoz2 | i dont wanna go against hydross without em, makes it annoying ;x |
| 03:19.14 | Codayus | Kinda; there's a "Test" function buried in the menu somewhere. |
| 03:19.36 | Codayus | And when you first mouseover a boss, it'll say something about "Boss X mod enabled"... |
| 03:19.43 | pakoz2 | interesting |
| 03:21.22 | pakoz2 | when i typed /bw serpentshrine-caverns it looks like its trying to list options |
| 03:21.28 | pakoz2 | but there are no commands inside the {} |
| 03:21.29 | Codayus | Um...type? |
| 03:21.40 | Roartindon | pakoz2: it's load on demand |
| 03:21.44 | Roartindon | probably |
| 03:21.55 | Codayus | Use the fubar plugin/minimap icon... |
| 03:22.05 | pakoz2 | gah again with the fubar lol |
| 03:22.09 | pakoz2 | i'm anti-fubar ;x |
| 03:22.25 | mjc | I'll fubar your face |
| 03:22.32 | Codayus | If you don't have fubar it shows up as a minimap icon. |
| 03:23.03 | ckknight | hrm, this really won't be as hard as I thought. |
| 03:23.10 | abyssichate | ckknight: awesome |
| 03:23.33 | pakoz2 | i see a BW_debugger minimap icon |
| 03:23.37 | abyssichate | Anyway, is anyone using the upload client provided by www.wowdigger.com ? |
| 03:24.09 | mjc | I'lll dig your wow |
| 03:24.13 | pakoz2 | >> |
| 03:24.15 | mjc | with pants |
| 03:24.33 | abyssichate | and manly sweat over your torso? |
| 03:24.33 | Codayus | pakoz2: Hrm. Odd. |
| 03:24.39 | Codayus | abyssichate: Never heard of it. |
| 03:25.08 | Codayus | Why? |
| 03:25.28 | PProvost | Is InCombatLockdown() a reasonable way to quickly find out if a unit it in combat or not? |
| 03:25.35 | abyssichate | Because it doesn't actually upload characters and I wanted to know if anyone else was experiencing the same issue |
| 03:25.57 | ckknight | PProvost: the player |
| 03:26.06 | ckknight | PProvost: otherwise use UnitAffectingCombat("unit") |
| 03:26.20 | PProvost | Yeah, I only care about "player" so does it matter? |
| 03:26.53 | mjc | abyssichate: it rpobably uploads your password |
| 03:26.55 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.12 | ckknight | PProvost: no, use InCombatLockdown() then |
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| 03:28.48 | starlon | ckknight, http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/raid%20icon.jpg <- is it supposed to cover the icon? |
| 03:28.59 | PProvost | I think therefore that the EffectiveHeal module for Violation is nothing more than the Healing module with an InCombatLockdown check added to the bailout if |
| 03:29.42 | ckknight | starlon: yea, you can move the icon, though, if you want. |
| 03:30.36 | pakoz2 | anyo0ne have trouble with misdirect with BigBrother mod? |
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| 03:33.53 | pakoz2 | when the hunter cast MD on me, it spams like 3 times |
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| 03:34.44 | pakoz2 | Missdirection on <Hunters name> line 2: Missdirection on <me> line 3: Missdirection on <me> |
| 03:34.51 | pakoz2 | or sometimes it says the hunters name twice |
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| 03:42.34 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.35 | abug | it's impossible to sort tables with non numeric keys right? |
| 03:46.46 | mjc | usort |
| 03:46.48 | mjc | might work |
| 03:46.56 | mjc | dunno if lua has similar |
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| 03:49.19 | Roartindon | abug: Not impossible, just not possible with the internal sorting method |
| 03:50.18 | Roartindon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:57.54 | kebinusan | starlon: I like what you did with xrs |
| 04:01.19 | starlon | I saw an RDX window setup similar to that. |
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| 04:03.51 | kebinusan | Yeah, Im probably going to steal the setup myself |
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| 04:09.35 | symian | Hi. |
| 04:09.45 | symian | I'm having the damndest time getting a button to respond to OnClick events. |
| 04:09.53 | symian | I'm using LUA, not XML. |
| 04:10.14 | symian | My question is, what *exactly* needs to be done to get an OnClick event to fire, and what object should contain the OnClick function? |
| 04:11.34 | symian | This is the relevant section of code. This code creates a working button that does not seem to *do* anything. |
| 04:11.35 | symian | http://pastebin.ca/599340 |
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| 04:16.59 | Cryect | did you Register for clicks? |
| 04:17.04 | Cryect | err I guess I can check the code |
| 04:17.16 | Cryect | enableMouse |
| 04:17.22 | Cryect | might help |
| 04:17.51 | Cryect | Not sure if you have to call it for buttons but I just do it out of habit for anything that needs a button |
| 04:17.54 | Cryect | I mean mouse |
| 04:22.51 | symian | Let me try that, thanks. |
| 04:24.13 | symian | No dice. |
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| 04:31.02 | Brando | hi |
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| 04:31.33 | starlon | try using SetScript |
| 04:33.40 | abug | yeah I think you need SetScript |
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| 04:35.48 | symian | Ah... thanks! I bet that will work. |
| 04:37.32 | symian | Perfect. |
| 04:37.36 | symian | Thanks so much! |
| 04:38.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42462 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Parrot.lua Parrot.toc): Parrot - add a generic animation style system, add :RegisterAnimationStyle, to allow for 3rd party hacking. Default animations (in AnimationStyles.lua) are Straight, Left parabola, and Right parabola. |
| 04:40.44 | ckknight | I figure by doing it this way, more defined animations can come out of it |
| 04:40.49 | ckknight | like random explosion styles |
| 04:41.16 | Funkeh` | ckknight: whats up with the animals |
| 04:41.27 | ckknight | what's up with your mom? |
| 04:41.30 | ckknight | she doing alright? |
| 04:41.35 | ckknight | yea, I bet she's doing alright |
| 04:41.40 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:41.42 | ckknight | *grunt* |
| 04:41.46 | WobWork | That's not what she said last night, Trebek |
| 04:41.53 | starlon | hah it'll eat your crackers |
| 04:42.03 | ckknight | Caw! |
| 04:42.20 | Lyfe | anyone know if screenshots of WAU2 (since apparently it 1- doesn't work on a mac, and won't launch on my parallels virtual machine) |
| 04:42.33 | Lyfe | err.. if any screenshots exist? |
| 04:42.46 | abug | pirate sold separately |
| 04:44.04 | dylanm | Lyfe: I think there are some on Curse. |
| 04:44.08 | RogueShadow | Pidgeon: It'll talk your head off! -- rp addon? lol |
| 04:44.53 | WobWork | Coo |
| 04:44.53 | Lyfe | ahh, gotcha. interesting look. |
| 04:44.56 | dylanm | And eat alll of your crackers. |
| 04:45.03 | RogueShadow | forgive me I say stupid things when i'm tired lol |
| 04:45.23 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, around here no one will notice someone else saying stupid things :P |
| 04:45.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 04:45.26 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
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| 04:47.18 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Pidgeon: It'll talk your head off! my rp addon suggestion. Despite not having a clue what an rp addon should do. |
| 04:47.55 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42463 10BigWigs_BWL/ (Broodlord.lua Vaelastrasz.lua): BigWigs_BWL: tweaks |
| 04:47.58 | ckknight | pigeons don't talk, they just carry disease |
| 04:48.10 | Funkeh` | seaguls talk |
| 04:48.11 | abug | who still does BWL? |
| 04:48.12 | Funkeh` | a lot |
| 04:48.14 | Funkeh` | too much |
| 04:48.21 | Funkeh` | abug: what does it matter to you? |
| 04:48.26 | abug | :P |
| 04:48.27 | NightHawkTheSane | apparently its good money. |
| 04:48.59 | RogueShadow | so it seems. |
| 04:49.00 | Roartindon | Some people still want their trinkets from BWL it seems |
| 04:49.23 | Roartindon | Sadly, I want to kill C'thun again. I liked that fight |
| 04:49.44 | Funkeh` | ive done all istances apart from aq40 since lvl 70 |
| 04:49.46 | Funkeh` | gotta do it sometime |
| 04:49.58 | Funkeh` | fun doing old stuff |
| 04:50.09 | Roartindon | I did 10 man MC |
| 04:50.11 | Roartindon | And 20 man BWL |
| 04:50.17 | Roartindon | haven't been back to AQ40 or Naxx yet |
| 04:50.28 | RogueShadow | I just got to lvl 37 for the first time, highest char. Total levels of all chars is around 305 |
| 04:50.30 | Funkeh` | we 12 manned razorgore |
| 04:50.33 | Funkeh` | 3 wipes |
| 04:50.34 | Funkeh` | was hard |
| 04:50.40 | Funkeh` | but got thre in the end :p |
| 04:50.45 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: 12 is impressive tho :) |
| 04:50.49 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 04:50.54 | Roartindon | since you lose 1 to controlle,r it's 11 man |
| 04:51.06 | Funkeh` | was pretty chaotic |
| 04:51.09 | Funkeh` | stuff running everywhere |
| 04:51.11 | Roartindon | given that phase 2 is trivial |
| 04:52.28 | Funkeh` | anyway i best be off, later |
| 05:03.43 | Roartindon | Antiarc: ping |
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| 05:19.19 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42464 10Assessment/Modules/ (Damage.lua Threat.lua): |
| 05:19.19 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 05:19.19 | CIA-22 | - Change to Threat Version display code due to API change sometime last week that I'm only just now catching up on. |
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| 05:31.36 | Kaelten | item codes never start with a zero do they? |
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| 05:35.36 | WobWork | itemids? |
| 05:35.56 | Kaelten | ya |
| 05:36.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Man, the Kael'thas trash is a bitch. |
| 05:37.06 | Jaxon | ZealotOnAStick: I keep forgetting toa sk you, is yggdrasil.net your domain? |
| 05:37.14 | ZealotOnAStick | It is. |
| 05:37.22 | Jaxon | Ha. |
| 05:37.29 | ZealotOnAStick | not that I'm particularly doing anything with it right now. But yeah. |
| 05:38.01 | ZealotOnAStick | I take it I'd know you as someone? |
| 05:38.11 | Jaxon | No, I just came across the domain a long time ago |
| 05:38.22 | Jaxon | Back when I played SC |
| 05:39.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. Yeah, I used to get some hits for that . . . some blizzard mentions on stuff, my ravings, and blizzard naming an Overlord Hero "Yggdrasill" - though I've no idea why they used 2 lls. |
| 05:39.36 | ZealotOnAStick | err, ls. |
| 05:43.54 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: From wikipedia: (Old Norse Yggdrasill, IPA: [ˈygËŒdrasilË]; the extra -l is a nominative case marker) |
| 05:56.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42465 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Parrot.lua): Parrot - send the current number and max number of fontstrings using the same animation style on the same scroll area (so that the animation style can adjust to fit around each other) |
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| 06:00.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42466 10Parrot/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot - allow for reverse direction in the Pow animation style |
| 06:03.20 | Jagobah | :O |
| 06:03.29 | Jagobah | Has ckknight coded an entire UI yet? |
| 06:03.43 | ckknight | nah, I doubt I'll touch raid mods |
| 06:03.46 | ckknight | I'm only lvl 39 |
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| 06:04.28 | pakoz | anyone know if elkano's buff bars has a scaling function? |
| 06:05.43 | ckknight | what I want to know is that are people troubled by me venturing into so many mod areas? |
| 06:07.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42467 10Parrot/Parrot.lua: Parrot - make a distinction between sticky and non-sticky messages. |
| 06:07.06 | ckknight | I'd hope not |
| 06:08.03 | kebinusan | hmm, I hate that Im reading some site and remember playing some old game I never finished and cant remember the name |
| 06:08.26 | kebinusan | anyone know good sites for looking up old dos games |
| 06:08.33 | Kaelten | underdogs |
| 06:08.38 | ckknight | yea, underdogs is great |
| 06:08.56 | kebinusan | thanks, I'll look there |
| 06:09.38 | Kaelten | wow whatever method they use to dtermine their saved variable output can have some odd results. |
| 06:10.33 | Kaelten | it works but its still interesting |
| 06:12.25 | dalvarez | hi |
| 06:12.46 | dalvarez | Kaelten: wow wowacer acks up quite a bit of bw |
| 06:12.49 | dalvarez | *wowace |
| 06:13.04 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 06:13.16 | Kaelten | oh I can read it now. |
| 06:13.18 | Kaelten | ya |
| 06:13.30 | Kaelten | we're 35 or so mbits at the 95th |
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| 06:14.32 | dalvarez | Kaelten: yea i saw that huge bill a few weeks ago |
| 06:14.35 | Kaelten | not sure exact numbers but its something like 3-5TBs |
| 06:14.51 | dalvarez | i was like woof |
| 06:14.56 | Kaelten | heh |
| 06:15.17 | dalvarez | Kaelten: i work for ptptech remember? |
| 06:15.28 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:15.32 | Kaelten | nope I forgot who it was |
| 06:15.35 | Kaelten | :) |
| 06:15.41 | dalvarez | lol |
| 06:17.23 | Kaelten | whats scary is I'm pretty sure we havn't hit the cap of our growth yet |
| 06:17.36 | Kaelten | I don't think we would have grown 100% after the patch if we were |
| 06:20.22 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: code whatever you damn well please. If it's good enough, people will use it. Done. |
| 06:21.01 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 06:21.36 | ckknight | some people were pretty bitchy about not "working with Grayhoof on SCT", but I mean, I've tried, and it doesn't work. |
| 06:22.38 | Kaelten | people bitched at me for not working on auctioneer |
| 06:22.44 | Kaelten | and mybags |
| 06:22.45 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 06:22.45 | Jagobah | Do people still use SCT? |
| 06:22.49 | ckknight | Jagobah: some |
| 06:22.53 | Jagobah | Ever since MSBT came out I've been using it |
| 06:23.15 | Jagobah | And for a mod that I've used for over a year I think I've only updated it twice, ever |
| 06:23.47 | Kaelten | lets see if my units crash |
| 06:23.49 | Kaelten | woot crashed |
| 06:24.17 | Jagobah | ! |
| 06:24.27 | pakoz | what causes the f'n alt tab crashes? |
| 06:26.10 | Kaelten | ckknight: in the same vein if I decieded to write a unitframe I wouldn't want to get any flack off of it |
| 06:26.20 | jme | i still use sct |
| 06:26.26 | ckknight | gah, why not hax agUF, Kaelten? |
| 06:26.39 | ckknight | pakoz: my guess: touching yourself at night |
| 06:26.57 | Kaelten | well actually I was going to rewrite that damned pitbull I hear its a memory hog |
| 06:27.06 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 06:27.14 | ckknight | I'll just steal your changes :-P |
| 06:27.29 | Kaelten | :P |
| 06:27.38 | ckknight | Kaelten: really, I think people should be justified somehow when they write a mod that's been done before |
| 06:27.53 | ckknight | unable to hack the previous one, find the previous one bloated, etc. |
| 06:27.59 | ckknight | they shouldn't do it "for the hell of it", imho |
| 06:28.05 | ckknight | there should be a point |
| 06:28.09 | Kaelten | for me that justification might just be that I wanted to do it for the purpose of learning about it |
| 06:28.16 | norganna | ckk: really? |
| 06:28.29 | ckknight | norganna: ...yea |
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| 06:28.37 | norganna | the whole premise of open-source is diversity |
| 06:28.40 | Kaelten | hiya norgs |
| 06:28.40 | ckknight | Kaelten: well, that's an acceptable justification, imho |
| 06:28.57 | ckknight | norganna: I know? seems kinda far-fetched, eh? I bet I'm the first one who's thought of it ;-) |
| 06:29.13 | Kaelten | I hacked out the first version of KC_Mobility to see if it'd work |
| 06:29.16 | ckknight | norganna: actually, I don't see that as the premise of open source. |
| 06:29.22 | ckknight | norganna: forkability is the premise. |
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| 06:29.30 | Sole | hey guys |
| 06:29.37 | Sole | I would like to make an announcement |
| 06:29.43 | Sole | I am a moron |
| 06:29.43 | ckknight | norganna: I don't see multiple C compilers running around, there's just GCC cause that's all that's really needed |
| 06:29.53 | ckknight | there was a fork (EGCS) and that eventually became trunk |
| 06:29.56 | Sole | formatted my backup files :( |
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| 06:30.03 | ckknight | Sole: dang |
| 06:30.04 | norganna | not many people do... a lot of open-source nerds are "US" vs "YOU" (and you smell) |
| 06:30.09 | Roartindon | ckknight: There's more than one open source compiler |
| 06:30.23 | Roartindon | ckknight: gcc just has the main focus of the oss community |
| 06:30.30 | Sole | now I have to download the WoW patches again amg |
| 06:30.31 | ckknight | Roartindon: true |
| 06:30.43 | Kaelten | guys I need to ask a question for public opinion poll |
| 06:30.45 | Sole | I had the big hefty 2.1 patch ready to go :( |
| 06:30.46 | Roartindon | ckknight: llvm is a particularly project.. well worth reading about |
| 06:30.57 | ckknight | oh yea, llvm looks pretty pimp |
| 06:31.06 | ckknight | but it has a point, it serves a slightly different purpose from GCC |
| 06:31.14 | ckknight | Kaelten: shoot |
| 06:31.18 | Sole | I need some help figuring out why I cant create a second partition |
| 06:31.25 | Kaelten | would you rather have wau2 sooner but it be in java or c++ version that would take longer |
| 06:31.34 | Kaelten | I'm trying to make some tough choices and I need input |
| 06:31.34 | snirks | i tell you. the flashing screen in Omen as maintank... it was a constant bickering and crazy ghost scream |
| 06:31.35 | ckknight | I don't see an issue with Java |
| 06:31.38 | snirks | i almost had nightmares |
| 06:31.39 | Roartindon | ckknight: It may well fulfill gcc's role sooner or later, I suspect |
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| 06:31.43 | ckknight | also, with Java, cross-compat is simpler |
| 06:31.44 | Sole | this happened the last time I formatted, but for some reason I cant create a new one this time |
| 06:32.02 | Sole | I thought Java was the devil? |
| 06:32.14 | ckknight | Roartindon: yea, and I'd have no issue with that, but the concept is different from GCC, which means that it's "fine" as a separate project |
| 06:32.14 | snirks | Kaelten: i would love non-java |
| 06:32.25 | Sole | whats wrong with using C# again? |
| 06:32.30 | norganna | Sole: java is the devil.... it's the devil you know. |
| 06:32.32 | ckknight | Sole: lack of cross-compat |
| 06:32.36 | snirks | Kaelten: but isnt java and c# like almost similar? just a few changes (bit more work) and its java + c# compliant |
| 06:32.38 | Sole | fair enough |
| 06:32.42 | Kaelten | Sole: I care about the 50k or so people that run macs |
| 06:32.59 | Kaelten | snirks not quite |
| 06:33.01 | Sole | Kaelten: good point |
| 06:33.22 | ckknight | Kaelten: I think if it were to be done in C++, more issues would arise, needlessly. |
| 06:33.24 | Kaelten | wowace's traffic may only be 4% mac but thats still 50k or so people |
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| 06:33.49 | ckknight | Kaelten: and I don't know why there's so much Java hatred |
| 06:33.50 | Kaelten | as it is we're facing some tough decisions with the java implementation |
| 06:33.56 | ckknight | oh? |
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| 06:34.00 | Kaelten | ckknight: irational hatred is irational |
| 06:34.03 | ckknight | anything that can be shared? |
| 06:34.06 | ckknight | Kaelten: irrational |
| 06:34.31 | Elkano | morning :/ |
| 06:34.36 | norganna | I would always go for a C++ version over a java version... but that's me. |
| 06:34.37 | snirks | hi Elkano |
| 06:34.40 | Sole | do it in java, as long as I can hit a button and stuff happens Im happy |
| 06:34.56 | Rhave | hi does anyone know the creator of mod called Pallypower? |
| 06:35.03 | Kaelten | ckknight: it won't run on macosx because of java5 issues. the macos standalone launcher is bugged and launches an unlimited number of copies before your system chokes |
| 06:35.11 | Sole | Rhave: check the toc file of it |
| 06:35.14 | Kaelten | java5 clients won't run it (even though they should be) |
| 06:35.16 | ckknight | Kaelten: wtf? |
| 06:35.24 | snirks | i wish i was a bit smarter, id love to work on a c++ version if you went for java. but alas, im not |
| 06:35.24 | ckknight | idea: |
| 06:35.36 | Rhave | Well I know his name, but I do not know how to contact him |
| 06:35.52 | Kaelten | most of the issues that are there we can work around sooner or later |
| 06:35.57 | ckknight | Python w/ wxPython ;-) |
| 06:36.00 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:36.06 | Kaelten | also been considered |
| 06:36.25 | ckknight | I suggest that for easy cross-compat |
| 06:36.26 | Kaelten | I'm slightly more tempted to do c++/Qt than python though |
| 06:36.36 | ckknight | oh, that'd work as well |
| 06:36.42 | ckknight | Qt4? |
| 06:36.42 | norganna | trouble with java / c# / wxPython / wxPerl etc, is the size of the associated system |
| 06:36.47 | Kaelten | ya |
| 06:37.06 | norganna | Java is massive, .Net is massive, wx* is massive |
| 06:37.07 | Kaelten | norganna: agreed. but nothign quite beets java+rcp |
| 06:37.09 | ckknight | I have fond memories of QObjects |
| 06:37.14 | snirks | just make it a service without gui, that runs and updates your addons transperently |
| 06:37.23 | Elkano | that crap I used to call notebook did it again... breaking... but thistime in another strange way... simply not updating the screen anymore... |
| 06:37.25 | snirks | and force everyone in the world to install it when they are given birth |
| 06:37.26 | Kaelten | snirks I thought about that as well. |
| 06:37.29 | Rhave | are there any developers here who use mod called Pally power? :o |
| 06:37.39 | ckknight | snirks: nah, then they can't be marketed to as effectively |
| 06:37.41 | Sole | so my HD is 320gb, my C drive is 128gb, disk manager says theres no more space to create partition D - how do I trick it into believing the truth? |
| 06:37.51 | snirks | mmc snap-in |
| 06:37.56 | norganna | I like C++ and QT |
| 06:38.02 | ckknight | Qt |
| 06:38.06 | norganna | Qt |
| 06:38.29 | Kaelten | if we go that way I'm going to be pretty much forced to go GPL as I won't be able to afford the licenses for the devlopers |
| 06:38.49 | norganna | yah |
| 06:38.49 | ckknight | was there an issue about that? |
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| 06:38.55 | norganna | why wouldn't you GPL though? |
| 06:39.13 | Kaelten | well there has been a outspoken group who want to rip the ads out of wau2 |
| 06:39.24 | Kaelten | I'm probably just overally paranoid |
| 06:39.28 | snirks | there are ads in wau2? |
| 06:39.31 | Sole | ads? |
| 06:39.31 | ckknight | srsly? |
| 06:39.34 | Sole | wau2 exists? |
| 06:39.39 | Sole | Im so confused |
| 06:39.45 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/wau2 |
| 06:39.47 | ckknight | fun facts, people: wowace costs money to run, ads are pretty much necessary |
| 06:39.48 | norganna | true, but there's always those guys |
| 06:40.18 | ckknight | it's more of a necessary evil than anything |
| 06:40.18 | Kaelten | norganna: tell me about it roughly 40% of wowace's users run adblock of some kind or another |
| 06:40.34 | norganna | like anyone would actually download their thing, and if the peopel are such ad haters anyhow, they probably wouldn't click to start with |
| 06:40.51 | Kaelten | norganna: true some of the ads I saw or paid by views though |
| 06:41.00 | Kaelten | some of the ads I use rather |
| 06:41.15 | norganna | ahh, right |
| 06:41.47 | Kaelten | if I open source and it becomes a problem for wau2 and ads I'll be forced to do some weird work around system and that could get annoying quickly |
| 06:41.53 | snirks | wau1 is just a fantastic app already |
| 06:42.01 | snirks | im not in the need of a 2.0 |
| 06:42.05 | ckknight | snirks: ah, it has issues, especially for devs |
| 06:42.13 | ckknight | well, for me |
| 06:42.20 | Kaelten | snirks: I'm working to make it better though. |
| 06:43.15 | Kaelten | for example wau2 sports dependency resolution so soon I'll be able to do away with SAL all togather |
| 06:43.24 | snirks | does it use svn to differentiate between versions? |
| 06:43.50 | Kaelten | svn revision numbers yes |
| 06:43.55 | snirks | ok |
| 06:44.14 | snirks | so lets say wowace gets compromised and hax0rware are put up instead of pitbull302932 |
| 06:44.18 | snirks | wouldnt md5 be better? |
| 06:44.24 | ckknight | snirks: ...no |
| 06:44.28 | pakoz | any 25man-raid fury warriors around |
| 06:44.40 | ckknight | snirks: for one, any executables are kept of the svn, through a precommit hook |
| 06:44.53 | ckknight | and two, everyone has to go through a manual process of applying for an svn account |
| 06:44.53 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r42468 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: FuBar_RestFu: bugfix for blank or incorrect zone names |
| 06:45.12 | Kaelten | and there are only a few people who know the passwords for the server |
| 06:46.55 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 06:47.17 | Kaelten | trying to figure out how to merge the master database without just having it overrite all values |
| 06:48.28 | norganna | How much of the program is logic vs GUI? |
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| 06:49.46 | norganna | meh |
| 06:49.50 | norganna | never mind me |
| 06:49.52 | Kaelten | norganna: hrm hard so say |
| 06:50.12 | Kaelten | I know that the way its written its possible to do a update pass without having a GUI on it at all. |
| 06:51.15 | norganna | i was just thinking that you could code the back end logic in plain C++ and then do the 2 interfaces seperately, like one in windows with MFC and one in ObjectiveC + Carbon on the mac |
| 06:51.52 | snirks | he's on to something |
| 06:51.55 | snirks | the best from both worlds |
| 06:52.04 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 06:52.04 | norganna | that way you wouldn't need to use QT (or any cross platform libs) at all |
| 06:52.09 | Roartindon | norganna: I've done that before, and it's not too bad |
| 06:52.16 | Roartindon | norganna: On both commercial and private projects |
| 06:52.17 | Kaelten | what about for file access and manipulations? |
| 06:52.35 | Roartindon | Kaelten: C++ for file access.. not too much different between the two |
| 06:52.37 | norganna | fopen etc is the same windows vs mac afaik |
| 06:52.41 | Roartindon | Kaelten: Just a class that wraps the filesystem |
| 06:52.51 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 06:52.52 | Roartindon | norganna: Not quite, differencce in unicode filename handling |
| 06:52.54 | norganna | especially if you use C++ fio |
| 06:53.27 | norganna | Roartindon: yeah, you can use pathSep = '\\' etc though |
| 06:53.35 | norganna | oh, unicode |
| 06:53.38 | Roartindon | norganna: Nah, unicode |
| 06:53.40 | norganna | hmmm - dunno |
| 06:53.46 | Roartindon | norganna: For windows, we used wfopen or whatev er it's called |
| 06:53.49 | norganna | never really done unicode filenames |
| 06:53.54 | Roartindon | and on Mac, we used NSString into NSFilewhatever. |
| 06:54.08 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 06:54.18 | Kaelten | would Qt even mask that kinda thing though? |
| 06:54.29 | norganna | yeah, i think it would |
| 06:54.33 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 06:54.36 | Kaelten | tough choices |
| 06:54.38 | norganna | it's pretty good about that kind of thing |
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| 06:54.50 | norganna | practically all Qt is unicode anyhow |
| 06:54.59 | Kaelten | I think there is a good bit of outcry about wanting a updater thats not Java |
| 06:55.22 | Kaelten | that alone I'd be willing to deal with if everything was working properly. |
| 06:55.36 | Kaelten | I will say I won't do another project using RCP/Eclipse shit |
| 06:55.44 | norganna | heheh |
| 06:55.50 | Kaelten | I can't see how our use case is so weird that there are issues and no answers |
| 06:56.33 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42469 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Better updating when editing bags, should get rid of weird behaviour |
| 06:56.39 | ckknight | okay, I lied before about Parrot |
| 06:56.43 | ckknight | it will be tag-based. |
| 06:56.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:56.50 | jme | anyone know what time honor is calculated? |
| 06:56.51 | Kaelten | tag-based? |
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| 06:57.25 | ckknight | Kaelten: Incoming Damage can be set to "-[Amount]" |
| 06:57.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:57.47 | Kaelten | which would mean what? |
| 06:58.01 | Roartindon | you could choose how to format text with the "-" or not |
| 06:58.10 | ckknight | Roartindon: need advice |
| 06:58.18 | ckknight | Roartindon: should I use your TagCompiler-1.0? |
| 06:58.21 | Roartindon | ckknight: Sure, tagcompiler is the thing you want to use :) |
| 06:58.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:58.31 | ckknight | :-) |
| 06:58.36 | ckknight | ^--- happy face |
| 06:58.51 | Roartindon | Aloft and Assessment use it differently, you pass it a structure describing what tags you want to support, and it passes back a structure with the method, and various other data |
| 06:59.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:59.11 | ckknight | is it heavy? |
| 06:59.14 | Roartindon | Check out both AloftTag.lua and AssessmentTag.lua |
| 06:59.18 | Roartindon | Nah, it's pretty light |
| 06:59.21 | ckknight | cause I mean, I'll have multiple different tag styles |
| 06:59.28 | Kaelten | I want to iterate over every instance of a pattern in a long string |
| 06:59.29 | ckknight | some combat events will have amount, some won't |
| 06:59.32 | Kaelten | is their an easy way to do that |
| 06:59.44 | ckknight | Kaelten: gmatch |
| 07:00.08 | Kaelten | for a, b, c, in string:gmatch(pattern) do? |
| 07:00.14 | ckknight | Roartindon: where is the documentation? |
| 07:00.16 | ckknight | Kaelten: yep. |
| 07:00.22 | Kaelten | cool |
| 07:00.27 | ckknight | Kaelten: I think it uses 68 bytes or so total, so you know |
| 07:00.32 | ckknight | unreclaimable |
| 07:00.42 | Roartindon | ckknight: Currently, top of TagCompiler-1.0.lua, I need to figure out how to use the wiki documentation |
| 07:00.43 | ckknight | (except by GC, that is) |
| 07:00.43 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 07:00.52 | ckknight | Roartindon: document by wiki! |
| 07:01.00 | ckknight | Kaelten: otherwise you could use string:find hacks |
| 07:01.07 | ckknight | Roartindon: just copy how other libs are done |
| 07:01.20 | Kaelten | shouldn't be too bad though it'll only happen on command and probably will only happen once per computer |
| 07:01.25 | Kaelten | (the functionI'm writing that is) |
| 07:01.28 | Kaelten | once per install I guess |
| 07:01.31 | ckknight | oh, that's fine, then |
| 07:01.34 | Roartindon | ckknight: Go into Aloft.lua - and change the AloftDebug function |
| 07:01.59 | Roartindon | ckknight: And it'll spit out what it's compiling, so you can check it's codegen |
| 07:02.59 | Kaelten | for code, sv, bv in data:match(';(%d+),(%d+),(%d+);') do |
| 07:03.01 | Kaelten | look right? |
| 07:03.27 | ckknight | yep |
| 07:03.45 | ckknight | Roartindon: TagCompiler-1.0 could be optimized :-P |
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| 07:04.00 | Roartindon | ckknight: In which places? |
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| 07:04.29 | TheKarn | ckknight does gfind have the same memory overhead? |
| 07:04.33 | ckknight | Roartindon: well, DogTag-1.0 turns a piece of code into a single function, with no arbitrary function calls inside it |
| 07:04.39 | ckknight | TheKarn: gfind == gmatch |
| 07:04.48 | Kaelten | whats the deal with using _G? |
| 07:04.56 | TheKarn | global lookups? |
| 07:05.05 | Roartindon | ckknight: So does TagCompiler, if you use "compileString" tags |
| 07:05.15 | Kaelten | TheKarn: I suppose |
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| 07:05.27 | ckknight | Kaelten: as we've found out, using _G.thing is faster than just thing, because it doesn't have to figure out the current fenv |
| 07:05.27 | vhaarr | morning |
| 07:05.31 | ckknight | hey vhaarr |
| 07:05.40 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 07:05.51 | vhaarr | Kaelten: table lookups are faster than function calls, generally |
| 07:06.00 | Kaelten | should I really worry about it for most things or just for certain things? |
| 07:07.12 | CIA-22 | 03pheredhel * r42470 10/tags/CCBreaker/: CCBreaker: create tag directory |
| 07:07.38 | snirks | what does your heart tell you to do |
| 07:07.45 | ckknight | Kaelten: I do it always now |
| 07:07.49 | Roartindon | ckknight: any tag function calls made by TagCompiler-1.0 are local, many tags are inlined code, rather than local function calls |
| 07:08.07 | Elkano | and using thing if local thing = _G.thing is even a bit faster iirc ;) |
| 07:08.11 | ckknight | Roartindon: what about like surround? |
| 07:08.12 | Roartindon | ckknight: And it wouldn't be hard at all to move global calls, etc UnitBlah calls to be locally cached for each compile either |
| 07:08.26 | ckknight | oh yea, DogTag does that, too, quite handy |
| 07:08.38 | ckknight | Roartindon: (note, I'm not being a dick, just being helpful) |
| 07:08.44 | Roartindon | ckknight: That's locally called, eg.. local surround = .... |
| 07:08.53 | Roartindon | ckknight: Then it's called in the method as a local function |
| 07:09.17 | Roartindon | ckknight: line 553 makes all tag calls local calls |
| 07:09.49 | ckknight | alright |
| 07:10.04 | Roartindon | ckknight: Do check the debug output, either in Aloft or Assessment, see if there's any obvious flaws or spaces for improvement |
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| 07:10.31 | CIA-22 | 03pheredhel 07v0.1 * r42471 10CCBreaker/: CCBreaker: tagging v0.1 |
| 07:10.31 | Roartindon | The final compile tag for strings is "blah".."blah"..function(blah, blah..blah)..blah or "" |
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| 07:11.43 | ckknight | Roartindon: your stuff is case-insensitive, right? |
| 07:12.05 | Roartindon | ckknight: uses of the tags are case insensitive |
| 07:12.13 | ckknight | you know what's handy? (for me) |
| 07:12.16 | Roartindon | eg. [name] and [Name] in aloft are the same |
| 07:12.22 | ckknight | DogTag:FixCasing("[name]") == "[Name]" |
| 07:12.22 | Roartindon | ckknight: what's that? |
| 07:12.30 | ckknight | very, very handy with user-inputted tags |
| 07:12.37 | ckknight | so that everything is the "right" case |
| 07:12.52 | ckknight | it's like how IDEs do it if you code in VB.NET or whatever |
| 07:13.04 | ckknight | even though it's case-insensitive, it'll change it to the right case |
| 07:13.12 | ckknight | so someone else can look at it afterwards and it'll all be nice |
| 07:13.24 | ckknight | cause, I mean, I know [nAmE] works, but [Name] looks much nicer |
| 07:13.25 | ckknight | imho. |
| 07:14.04 | Roartindon | Hmm.. I decided to let players input any case they want, and the thing resolves it to lower case internally |
| 07:14.06 | ckknight | also, imho, users are better with PascalCase than lowercase or camelCase (but that's a side issue) |
| 07:14.14 | Roartindon | if people like [name], or [Name], or [NAME].. it's up to the user then |
| 07:14.33 | ckknight | in PitBull, it automatically changes to [Name], and that way, whenever they put it on the forums or whatever they do, it looks nice to everyone |
| 07:14.37 | ckknight | instead of being ...shitty |
| 07:15.09 | Roartindon | ckknight: Hmm.. I assume fixcasing is only done after input? |
| 07:15.13 | ckknight | oh yes. |
| 07:15.19 | ckknight | once enter is pressed, it's all fixed for you |
| 07:15.36 | ckknight | so one last question: if I were to say, come up with a patch to add a fixcasing thing to TagCompiler, would you accept it? ;-) |
| 07:15.50 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r42472 10FuBar_RicoXPFu/ (4 files): |
| 07:15.50 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RicoXPFu: |
| 07:15.50 | CIA-22 | - Add locale |
| 07:15.51 | Roartindon | ckknight: Sure |
| 07:16.07 | ckknight | can I also change things to PascalCase in that case? |
| 07:16.22 | Roartindon | ckknight: Well, each addon supplies the list of cases it uses |
| 07:16.26 | Fisker- | :O |
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| 07:16.40 | Fisker- | Fallout 3 doesn't seem that bad at all :D |
| 07:16.44 | ckknight | Roartindon: right, but can I change the default TagCompiler stuff to PascalCase, at least? |
| 07:17.04 | ckknight | (and potentially ninja-hack it into Aloft/Assessment later) |
| 07:17.05 | Roartindon | ckknight: Sure, but make a month or so redudancy period |
| 07:17.13 | Roartindon | ckknight: Otherwise everyone's aloft tags will break immediately |
| 07:17.16 | ckknight | well, I mean, it wouldn't affect anything. |
| 07:17.24 | ckknight | case-insensitivity will still be in |
| 07:17.36 | ckknight | it's just that there will be a "preferred" case for things |
| 07:17.50 | ckknight | that's how DogTag does it as well |
| 07:17.53 | ckknight | [name] works just fine |
| 07:18.00 | Fisker- | However were multi-target threat to come to KTM, the same problem would exist in reverse. Currently when omen sees two mobs with the same name, it gives up and puts them in the same basket, whereas an implementation as i have thought about it previously would isolate separate instances of the same mob. |
| 07:18.01 | ckknight | exact same code as [Name] |
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| 07:18.14 | Fisker- | So Kenco can apparently seperate mobs from each other |
| 07:18.19 | Fisker- | he must be some programming god |
| 07:18.19 | Roartindon | ckknight: Will chat more about this later; happy to change whatever to improve its usability.. just gotta run now |
| 07:18.24 | ckknight | Fisker-: except that that's impossible. |
| 07:18.30 | ckknight | Roartindon: k. |
| 07:18.31 | Fisker- | but it's not |
| 07:18.33 | Fisker- | Kenco said so! |
| 07:18.36 | Fisker- | You're just bad programmers |
| 07:18.40 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 07:18.40 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 07:18.41 | ckknight | your mom. |
| 07:18.44 | Fisker- | No U |
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| 07:21.01 | Kaelten | ok if I want to reset a table back to defaults in AceDB I can just set its value to {} and all its children's defaults will be there now right? |
| 07:21.23 | Fisker- | I guess it could be done in a very inaccurate way |
| 07:21.26 | Fisker- | Look after symbols |
| 07:21.41 | Punkie` | Fisker-: no |
| 07:21.50 | MoonWolf | hmm, it would not be perfect by a long shot , but. Can't you base what is being hit by what by using targets and current health values ? |
| 07:21.54 | Punkie` | the combat log doesn't let you distinguish which mob you are hitting |
| 07:21.56 | Fisker- | I know |
| 07:22.01 | MoonWolf | you would still miss out some more interesting agro details. |
| 07:22.09 | Fisker- | But you can check the target |
| 07:22.19 | Fisker- | But it wouldn't be accurate with macros, dots, aoe, etc. |
| 07:22.33 | MoonWolf | indeed |
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| 07:22.44 | Punkie` | it won't be accurate at al |
| 07:22.44 | Punkie` | l |
| 07:23.05 | Punkie` | especially with a lot of spells that cause additional threat than just the damage they do |
| 07:23.10 | MoonWolf | so we can pick, sort of working and not working at all. |
| 07:24.16 | Fisker- | Would be cool if the damagetext could be hooked then :P |
| 07:24.24 | Fisker- | As that appear over the mobs head |
| 07:24.42 | Fisker- | But it's probably not the same as the nameplates :( |
| 07:24.51 | MoonWolf | it would be cool if blizzard could attach a small unique identifier to a mob that goes into combat. |
| 07:25.01 | ckknight | yes, agreed |
| 07:25.03 | ckknight | but they don't |
| 07:25.15 | Fisker- | obviously not :P |
| 07:25.20 | ckknight | Kaelten: mmm... no |
| 07:25.30 | Fisker- | I don't think they really want to increase the accuracy of threat addons |
| 07:25.31 | Kaelten | ckknight: so I've noticed :S |
| 07:25.37 | ckknight | Kaelten: depends on the situation, but if you nil it, it may show up |
| 07:25.43 | ckknight | if it's a ['*'] ordeal |
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| 07:26.13 | Kaelten | if I do :ResetDB('namespace') it will though |
| 07:26.23 | ckknight | oh yea |
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| 07:27.47 | Kaelten | cool |
| 07:27.58 | Kaelten | had a bug that caused some bad data to get collected in KCI |
| 07:28.06 | Kaelten | since I'm still in beta I'm just whipping theDB |
| 07:29.20 | evl | WOOT! |
| 07:29.25 | evl | Exalted Netherwing |
| 07:29.27 | evl | *phew* |
| 07:30.56 | ckknight | grats, evl |
| 07:31.13 | evl | It's a mild grind compared to Consortium pre 2.1 though :D |
| 07:31.37 | Fisker- | what happens with the fel orc illusion when you're exalted? |
| 07:31.51 | evl | well |
| 07:31.54 | evl | Hate to spoil it bu |
| 07:32.01 | evl | Illidan ports in and busts your ass! |
| 07:32.13 | Fisker- | yeah yeah |
| 07:32.14 | Fisker- | know that |
| 07:32.15 | jme | illidan blinks at you for 109283901283 |
| 07:32.17 | jme | you die. |
| 07:32.18 | evl | and then epic rp talk and you get flown away by a dragon! |
| 07:32.34 | Fisker- | But will you keep getting the fel orc illusion after getting exalted? |
| 07:32.44 | jme | BY THE LIGHT OF THE MOON!! *POOF* |
| 07:32.45 | evl | no |
| 07:32.49 | Fisker- | ok :P |
| 07:32.57 | evl | oh back on netherwing ledge? |
| 07:32.59 | evl | I guess so |
| 07:33.02 | evl | I met this MADMAN |
| 07:33.11 | evl | doing quests like there was no tomorrow, after being exalted for weeks |
| 07:33.27 | Fisker- | :o |
| 07:33.40 | evl | "for cash and fun" |
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| 07:34.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42473 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 07:34.08 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 - instead of forcing all tags to lowercase, do a case insensitive lookup (slightly slower, but with good effects for later). |
| 07:34.08 | CIA-22 | - rename all tags to PascalCase |
| 07:35.54 | jme | so is nobody really using sct anymore? |
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| 07:36.00 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r42474 10KC_Items/ (13 files in 5 dirs): |
| 07:36.00 | CIA-22 | KC_Items: |
| 07:36.00 | CIA-22 | - restructured much of the project. |
| 07:36.00 | CIA-22 | - rewrote large portions of SellValues |
| 07:36.00 | CIA-22 | - fixed SellValues bug that allowed bad data to be stored |
| 07:36.01 | CIA-22 | - Improved master db import script. It now will leave new data alone and not do a complete overwrite. |
| 07:36.07 | Fisker- | man what a shame |
| 07:36.16 | Fisker- | another train surfer who survived to tell the tale |
| 07:36.22 | Fisker- | almost died though |
| 07:36.23 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 07:37.01 | Srosh | oO |
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| 07:37.39 | Fisker- | was one who died earlier on the year :) |
| 07:37.46 | Fisker- | Atleast this one got hurt and got arrested |
| 07:40.48 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: KC_Items moving to Ace2? |
| 07:41.01 | Kaelten | :) |
| 07:41.18 | pb_ee1 | What do you mean? :-P |
| 07:41.54 | Kaelten | yep it has some of the functionality in there already |
| 07:42.02 | Kaelten | slowing working it back up :) |
| 07:42.40 | pb_ee1 | Ouch, that's really nice to know ;) Good luck, though, I suppose the amount of work on KC_Items is quite insane |
| 07:42.49 | pb_ee1 | of work to be done* |
| 07:42.50 | Srosh | decided on the scanners yet? |
| 07:43.12 | Kaelten | Srosh: not completely |
| 07:43.25 | Kaelten | I'm probably going to end up writing a dual state scanner though |
| 07:43.26 | pb_ee1 | Wowace not responding (or very slow) |
| 07:43.57 | Srosh | double the work, ain't it? |
| 07:44.40 | Kaelten | load has spiked to 13 :S |
| 07:44.53 | Kaelten | I am running a log analyzer |
| 07:45.30 | pb_ee1 | :( |
| 07:45.34 | Kaelten | hrm actually its done and looks like speed is getting better too |
| 07:46.07 | pb_ee1 | Ace is too powerful... too much users: the server does not keep up ( ;-) ) |
| 07:46.24 | pb_ee1 | It seems yup |
| 07:47.01 | Dynom | Kaelten: lighttpd or apache ? |
| 07:47.32 | Kaelten | both |
| 07:47.42 | Kaelten | :) |
| 07:47.59 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r42475 10ArkInventory/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:47.59 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 07:47.59 | CIA-22 | - final beta before merge back to trunk |
| 07:48.05 | Kaelten | lighttpd serves the files server , apache the php and mod_dav svn access |
| 07:48.26 | Dynom | k; well don't know about your apache knowledge; but I can pass some parameters I use for our servers |
| 07:48.33 | Dynom | to tune it for high load |
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| 07:49.10 | Kaelten | if you want to email them to me go for it |
| 07:49.15 | Kaelten | I'm getting ready to go to bed shortlyu |
| 07:49.22 | Fisker- | can you mail them to me as well? |
| 07:49.27 | Dynom | sure; whisper me a mail adress |
| 07:49.28 | Fisker- | thomas.larsen@gmail.co,m |
| 07:49.30 | Dynom | I"ll cc |
| 07:49.31 | Fisker- | thomas.larsen@gmail.com |
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| 07:49.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 07:49.32 | Dynom | ok :-] |
| 07:49.32 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 07:49.39 | Dynom | good morning ckknight |
| 07:49.45 | Fisker- | I got an apache server but basically just running defaults |
| 07:50.01 | ckknight | Dynom: hey |
| 07:50.09 | Jaxon | The defaults are pretty good |
| 07:50.10 | Dynom | I was thinking about running a mirror for Ace; but I couldn't get it from the ground with my 'boss' ^^ |
| 07:50.16 | Dynom | Jaxon: not for high load |
| 07:50.24 | Dynom | it generates tremendous overhead then |
| 07:50.36 | Jaxon | Dynom: no, but if you are running a high load, then you should have the knowledge for the position you are in |
| 07:50.48 | Dynom | exactly (-: |
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| 07:51.01 | pb_ee1 | Server is slowing down again :'( |
| 07:51.11 | Dynom | Kaelten: your mail address was.. ? |
| 07:51.19 | Kaelten | my name at gmail |
| 07:51.21 | Fisker- | Dynom me too but i don't know how to do it :P |
| 07:51.22 | Dynom | k |
| 07:51.29 | Dynom | Fisker-: (-: |
| 07:51.34 | Dynom | kate |
| 07:51.35 | Dynom | mt |
| 07:51.39 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r42476 10KC_Items/modules/KC_SellValues/SellValues.lua: KC_Items:used _G to help speed up the few global accesses in there. |
| 07:51.47 | Fisker- | My server is basically just sitting doing nothing atm |
| 07:51.48 | Kaelten | anywho going to bed |
| 07:51.57 | Dynom | gnight |
| 07:52.02 | Fisker- | night |
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| 07:53.06 | Punkie` | Fisker- I thought you had a guild site running on it? |
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| 07:53.58 | Fisker- | Since i am unguilded not anymore :) |
| 07:54.11 | Fisker- | Though i'm sure that my server could run both a site and svn mirror at the same time |
| 07:56.53 | Punkie` | oh? was this that thing you talked about a few days ago? |
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| 07:57.43 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:57.54 | Punkie` | what happened anyway? |
| 07:58.12 | Fisker- | Well the guild sucks a bit |
| 07:58.25 | Moltarain | whats up with wowace.com? damn slow at the moment. |
| 07:58.31 | Fisker- | The "major" players of the new guild pretty much ramped down after they made the new guild |
| 07:58.48 | Fisker- | So seeing it wasn't really a better guild, and that nothing was done to improve it, i left. |
| 07:58.58 | Fisker- | And now i'm not really playing anymore |
| 07:59.15 | Fisker- | Trying to get a feel for it again on a new server, with a fresh start |
| 07:59.24 | Fisker- | but not cool to level a new character :( |
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| 08:01.21 | Punkie` | true dat |
| 08:01.45 | |Kev| | I did 1-30 on a hunter recently |
| 08:01.49 | |Kev| | then got bored :) |
| 08:02.02 | Fisker- | Got a 60 rogue, hunter and a level 70 paladin |
| 08:02.17 | Fisker- | each character more horrible to level than the last :) |
| 08:02.39 | Sole | rogues are a bit ass to play nowadays :( |
| 08:02.55 | Fisker- | But atleast i can see that already a couple of people have started to stop, and question the new guidl |
| 08:03.08 | |Kev| | I discovered at the weekend that tanking a heroic with 10k hp, while you're still critable, isn't a good idea |
| 08:03.11 | Sole | level a shadow priest fisker |
| 08:03.17 | Fisker- | That's what i made |
| 08:03.26 | Sole | quite enjoyable to level so far |
| 08:03.45 | Sole | priests just dont wanna die it seems |
| 08:03.47 | |Kev| | I find priests a bit of a pain from 1-30 or so, then it picks up |
| 08:03.58 | Sole | Im lovin my priest and he is only 27 |
| 08:04.04 | Sole | been great since about 20 |
| 08:04.10 | |Kev| | fair enough |
| 08:04.14 | |Kev| | 20's when they stop sucking |
| 08:04.33 | |Kev| | around 30 significantly better |
| 08:04.33 | Sole | yeah 1-20 was annoying |
| 08:04.33 | |Kev| | 40 melting faces |
| 08:04.57 | Sole | best advice I ever got for leveling a priest: wands are your friend |
| 08:05.04 | |Kev| | yep |
| 08:05.08 | nevcairiel | 40-50 was the most annoying time for leveling imho :/ |
| 08:05.08 | Fisker- | I find it funnies though |
| 08:05.16 | Fisker- | As i had complete database and server access to their site |
| 08:05.18 | |Kev| | 40-50 is generically annoying, yeah |
| 08:05.19 | Fisker- | I still got that |
| 08:05.21 | Fisker- | :D |
| 08:05.23 | Sole | 40-50 is lame |
| 08:05.39 | nevcairiel | 50-58 is pretty lame too .. but then bc starts :P |
| 08:05.50 | Sole | but 40-47 was generally quick on my shaman however |
| 08:06.09 | Sole | the key is not to think for yourself but to simply follow a guide :D |
| 08:06.19 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:06.23 | nevcairiel | i tried that |
| 08:06.24 | nevcairiel | in BC |
| 08:06.26 | nevcairiel | didnt work |
| 08:06.29 | Sole | oh no no |
| 08:06.30 | Moltarain | Sole: shadow + dmg and lots of +int with improwed shiled is the way to leevel priests |
| 08:06.30 | nevcairiel | i am too much myself :D |
| 08:06.39 | Sole | not in BC |
| 08:06.46 | subbawt | spirit > int |
| 08:06.53 | subbawt | with spirit tap |
| 08:06.57 | Sole | but 1-60 both JAme's and Joanna's guides are pretty well mapped out |
| 08:07.09 | nevcairiel | i read that alliance 60-70 guide |
| 08:07.13 | nevcairiel | dunno, didnt like it |
| 08:07.23 | nevcairiel | didnt bother to read 1-60 |
| 08:07.42 | Moltarain | thats just teh regen. what i mean is that you need a lot of mana pool to be able to level fast. then you dont need to rest. |
| 08:07.53 | Sole | I dont rest though |
| 08:07.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42477 10Aloft/ (28 files in 6 dirs): |
| 08:07.55 | CIA-22 | Aloft - change all tags to PascalCase |
| 08:07.55 | CIA-22 | - also fix a typo |
| 08:07.58 | Sole | and spirit is my highest stat |
| 08:08.06 | Sole | just have to keep a good balance |
| 08:08.19 | Sole | but when you regen fast, you dont generally need a big mana pool |
| 08:09.24 | Moltarain | true, gues we got diff playstyles =) |
| 08:09.41 | Sole | indeed :) |
| 08:09.44 | Sole | doesnt matter in the end |
| 08:10.05 | Sole | we'll be looking for the same type of gear at 70 anyway |
| 08:10.09 | Moltarain | my mage i 2 chots all mobs on L38 :P played like 2 days on it totaly. |
| 08:10.26 | Sole | thats impressive |
| 08:10.41 | Moltarain | fire crit mage =) |
| 08:11.24 | Moltarain | well it helps to have boosting friends ,) |
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| 08:12.33 | cryogen | levelling any kind of caster pre 60 is kinda lame |
| 08:12.36 | Moltarain | i remmember when i played my first char took like 4 months or so to get to L35... started with a tauren drood, and i didnt know anything about how to play. |
| 08:12.36 | cryogen | compared to after 60 at least |
| 08:13.07 | |Kev| | I really enjoyed levelling both my mages pre-60 actually |
| 08:13.13 | Moltarain | but it was phun in a way to play then to. |
| 08:13.17 | Aenslaed | well, druids are not intuitive like most other classes |
| 08:13.28 | cryogen | free water helps |
| 08:13.33 | |Kev| | was fun to play a frost mage and spend my life farming elites |
| 08:13.50 | |Kev| | oh, a +3 elite, let's go kill it |
| 08:14.04 | jme | these freaking 70 elite drakonid pats in smv hit like trucks :x |
| 08:14.21 | Moltarain | then you need to oneshot them ;) |
| 08:14.31 | cryogen | i seriously need to find a new server however |
| 08:14.32 | jme | bah, i got one to 50% before my pet died |
| 08:14.41 | cryogen | the one im on sucks for quality and quantity of groups at 70 |
| 08:14.55 | xystic | cryogen: Ditto, when I return to playing. |
| 08:15.17 | xystic | Maybe a server where Karazhan PUGs are possible, even. |
| 08:15.34 | cryogen | you know it's bad when even as a holy priest you struggle to find any sort of group |
| 08:16.05 | cryogen | for a whole weekend |
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| 08:23.04 | Moltarain | hehe ok, i have absolutly no trouble. like 15 wispers after 30 sec when i login :P |
| 08:23.22 | Moltarain | but its crowded instead. and thats not good either |
| 08:23.42 | Sole | trust me, crowded is better than deserted :P |
| 08:23.56 | Sole | my server has always been one of the top populated servers, and I like it that way |
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| 08:24.22 | Sole | more stuff on the AH, bigger market, easier to find groups |
| 08:25.08 | cryogen | deserted is good for levelling |
| 08:25.12 | cryogen | crowded is good for being 70 :) |
| 08:25.36 | Sole | crowded servers are fine to level up on |
| 08:25.53 | Sole | the majority of the people are 70 already |
| 08:26.08 | Sole | anyway, gotta install SP2 now. bai |
| 08:26.11 | cryogen | 70s tend to get bored and wander around low level places though :p |
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| 08:27.08 | Moltarain | i do heroics now. its phun =) |
| 08:28.17 | Moltarain | and one learn a lot about who can play and not... ppl with full epic that cant play and ppl with blue and some greens that can play and so... :D |
| 08:29.45 | |Kev| | and druids with 360 defense who can't tank heroics for the life of them |
| 08:29.52 | |Kev| | <-- |
| 08:29.55 | Moltarain | hehe |
| 08:29.58 | cryogen | heh |
| 08:30.05 | |Kev| | although I have now started collecting tank gear |
| 08:30.08 | cryogen | would be nice to get a heroic group :D |
| 08:30.15 | |Kev| | 360 defense, 10khp |
| 08:30.22 | |Kev| | I was a 'little squishy' in a heroic |
| 08:30.36 | cryogen | big bear go squish |
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| 08:30.47 | |Kev| | very much so |
| 08:31.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42478 10Assessment/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Assessment - change all tags to PascalCase. hopefully doesn't break anything. doesn't seem to. |
| 08:32.14 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r42479 10ArkInventory/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:32.14 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:32.14 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 |
| 08:33.32 | Dynom | Fisker- Kaelten you got mail |
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| 08:46.44 | nevcairiel | svn slow again?:/ |
| 08:46.59 | vhaarr | I'm timing out on wowace.com |
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| 08:47.01 | vhaarr | Kaelten: pin |
| 08:47.03 | vhaarr | g |
| 08:47.11 | nevcairiel | i suppose he sleeps |
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| 08:48.12 | vhaarr | probably |
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| 09:00.20 | Elkano | vharr, wowace seems to be working again |
| 09:02.00 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r42480 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua ArkInventory.toc ReadMe.txt): |
| 09:02.00 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:02.00 | CIA-22 | - v2.01 |
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| 09:06.13 | Moltarain | its like its being overused atm |
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| 09:06.32 | Moltarain | like if hes running a torrent on it :P |
| 09:06.52 | Jaxon | First of the month, probably log analyzer? |
| 09:07.39 | Moltarain | well if so thats so stupid. you dont run that on the local box. its no use... |
| 09:10.32 | Moltarain | if its for security that is. if its just for stats then thats another thing |
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| 09:16.45 | Wobin_ | omg |
| 09:16.55 | Wobin_ | kenco can uniquely identify all mobs |
| 09:17.09 | Wobin_ | I can't wait to find out how he does it |
| 09:17.30 | Health | In what addon? |
| 09:17.38 | nevcairiel | ktm |
| 09:17.51 | Health | He's too cool for school |
| 09:17.55 | nevcairiel | did he post that wobin? |
| 09:18.14 | Wobin_ | "Currently when omen sees two mobs with the same name, it gives up and puts them in the same basket, whereas an implementation as i have thought about it previously would isolate separate instances of the same mob." |
| 09:18.49 | sunset | wowace 1.9 doesnt work anymore ? have to use the beta 2 javathing? |
| 09:19.04 | nevcairiel | that will be interesting =P |
| 09:20.56 | ckknight | Wobin_: if he can do it, I'd like to see it |
| 09:21.08 | nevcairiel | i dont think he can |
| 09:21.17 | ckknight | oh, it's impossible with blizzard's contex |
| 09:21.19 | ckknight | context* |
| 09:21.20 | Wobin_ | ckknight: Aye ditto |
| 09:21.25 | ckknight | but let's talk theoretics now |
| 09:21.39 | ckknight | if he does do it (which he won't), I wonder how long it'd take Threat-1.0 to steal it |
| 09:21.42 | ckknight | a day at most? |
| 09:21.43 | Wobin_ | although if he manages it and Blizzard shuts down more of the API I won't thank him for it =) |
| 09:22.32 | vhaarr | he can do it to a certain extent |
| 09:22.55 | vhaarr | he can sync nameplates and check for aggro targets |
| 09:22.56 | Punkie` | vhaarr: It won't be accurate |
| 09:23.03 | vhaarr | of course, it won't be reliable |
| 09:23.09 | vhaarr | it will eat cpu time |
| 09:23.12 | vhaarr | it will eat comm |
| 09:23.18 | vhaarr | and it won't be accurate by *far* |
| 09:23.34 | Health | wow, thats *far* right there |
| 09:23.48 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 09:23.52 | vhaarr | but who knows |
| 09:23.57 | vhaarr | maybe that's what he intends to do |
| 09:24.02 | ckknight | perhaps |
| 09:24.13 | Wobin_ | "I can distinguish all mobs uniquely! (Of course, you end up with 1fps, but THAT'S NOT THE POINT) |
| 09:24.19 | vhaarr | haha |
| 09:24.22 | vhaarr | indeed |
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| 09:25.07 | Srosh | why is BanzaiAlert always telling me it is "suspended" even when it's clearly not? oô |
| 09:25.24 | vhaarr | Srosh: /banzaialert standby doesn't toggle it? |
| 09:25.49 | Srosh | well, it does, but it still shows "suspended" in the options table; so maybe it's just a display problem |
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| 09:26.10 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 09:26.37 | MoonWolf | if he uses the same techniques to get his multimob thing working as he does now, the game will loose about 50% of its fps |
| 09:26.43 | MoonWolf | that will be fun to watch. |
| 09:26.46 | Srosh | or, mh, could it be a SV problem? |
| 09:26.50 | [dRaCo] | "he"? |
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| 09:27.03 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: the demon. |
| 09:27.16 | ckknight | MoonWolf: well, I mean, he has to query every frame, of course |
| 09:27.18 | [dRaCo] | oh, ic. him. |
| 09:27.23 | MoonWolf | sure |
| 09:27.25 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: (Kenco) |
| 09:27.30 | [dRaCo] | yeah, figured. |
| 09:27.37 | MoonWolf | and he has to do it when you are out of combat walking around in shattrath too. |
| 09:27.46 | ckknight | lol. |
| 09:27.48 | ckknight | yes. |
| 09:27.51 | ckknight | he does. |
| 09:27.56 | cryogen | but he has an uber pc |
| 09:27.57 | [dRaCo] | hey, there are hostile mobs in shattrath! |
| 09:27.57 | ckknight | but it doesn't matter |
| 09:28.00 | cryogen | so what does it matter |
| 09:28.07 | ckknight | cause it's not like you're actually playing in Shatt |
| 09:28.17 | ckknight | KTM only cares about people who actually play |
| 09:28.24 | ckknight | i.e. people who are constantly in combat |
| 09:28.36 | MoonWolf | nope, nobody goes to shatrah to craft or trade or form raids or heaven forbid. |
| 09:28.39 | MoonWolf | rp, on rp realms. |
| 09:28.51 | ckknight | <-- on an RP realm, actually |
| 09:28.55 | ckknight | Antiarc, too |
| 09:29.04 | MoonWolf | <-- pvp-rp |
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| 09:29.09 | [dRaCo] | those pussies do not fps! |
| 09:29.11 | ckknight | ah, cool |
| 09:29.14 | [dRaCo] | ... + need |
| 09:29.16 | ckknight | how is PvP-RP? |
| 09:29.27 | MoonWolf | depends on the realm, defiashbrotherhood is |
| 09:29.39 | MoonWolf | fun, more world pvp, a lot more idiots too though. |
| 09:29.45 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:30.12 | ckknight | forsooth, hordies, whilst I pwneth thy nublings with mine axe |
| 09:30.13 | Srosh | vhaarr, and BanzaiAlert always shows profile [none] on /banzaialert even if I manually set it to sth else |
| 09:30.47 | vhaarr | Srosh: sounds like a AceDB bug |
| 09:30.52 | MoonWolf | O i forgot, he will have to put everything in pcalls to avoid annyoing error messages. |
| 09:31.06 | MoonWolf | EVERYTHING |
| 09:31.22 | Srosh | oki |
| 09:31.30 | ckknight | ugh. |
| 09:31.30 | vhaarr | pf, errors |
| 09:31.30 | vhaarr | who needs them?! |
| 09:31.36 | [dRaCo] | you should suggest just disabling wow's lua error messages. |
| 09:31.38 | [dRaCo] | way easier |
| 09:31.43 | ckknight | I mean, smart pcall'ing is good, and is a sign of a good developer |
| 09:31.51 | ckknight | but his pcall'ing is just... stupid |
| 09:31.54 | [dRaCo] | and it gets rid of all those nasty errors out there |
| 09:32.08 | MoonWolf | what he does goes beyond smart |
| 09:32.14 | Wobin_ | What you don't know can't hurt you |
| 09:32.33 | MoonWolf | tell that to the bullet you never saw coming. |
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| 09:33.25 | abbat_w | good day guys |
| 09:33.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42482 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: TagCompiler-1.0 - add :FixCasing("tag", tagData, "resultType"), which will turn a normal tagstring into a properly-cased tagstring, e.g. [name] => [Name] and such. |
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| 09:33.45 | ckknight | hey abbat_w |
| 09:33.51 | abbat_w | tagcompiler? |
| 09:33.54 | abbat_w | new project? |
| 09:34.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42483 10Assessment/AssessmentTag.lua: Assessment - Barvalue => BarValue |
| 09:34.20 | ckknight | abbat_w: Roart's actually |
| 09:34.30 | ckknight | abbat_w: I just wanted that feature |
| 09:34.44 | ckknight | abbat_w: because I'm adding it to Parrot |
| 09:34.50 | ckknight | which is a new project |
| 09:34.50 | abbat_w | Oh |
| 09:35.35 | Jagobah | what is Parrot |
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| 09:35.54 | Jagobah | I don't check forums; give me a sentence summary |
| 09:35.56 | Jagobah | :) |
| 09:35.57 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 09:36.10 | ckknight | Jagobah: SCT clone |
| 09:36.29 | ckknight | Jagobah: ## Notes: Floating Combat Text of awesomeness. Caw. It'll eat your crackers. |
| 09:36.33 | ckknight | hey mitch0 |
| 09:36.35 | abbat_w | hmmm.. i just replace sct with msbt ;) |
| 09:36.39 | [dRaCo] | are you gonna add custom events like msbt? |
| 09:36.46 | ckknight | abbat_w: yea, that's what I'm stealing most of the stuff from |
| 09:36.46 | MoonWolf | in time we can have a ckknight only ui. |
| 09:37.00 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42484 10AuraToChat/AuraToChat.lua: AuraToChat: Throttle unit+spell by 1 second, so that if someone in your raid, party and target/focus gets a tracked buff, it doesn't print 1-4 times to chat. |
| 09:37.04 | MoonWolf | and i was about to say, what was wrong with msbt. |
| 09:37.29 | ckknight | MoonWolf: I don't like its config, also, it's not as hackable as I'd like. |
| 09:37.40 | mitch0 | ckk: if you do cooldown monitoring in that thing, please support water elemental nova somehow :) SCT and MSBT modules fail on that unfortunately |
| 09:37.48 | ckknight | mitch0: k |
| 09:37.56 | ckknight | mitch0: well, I started it earlier today :-P |
| 09:38.10 | mitch0 | ckk: never to early for feature requests though ;) |
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| 09:38.15 | MoonWolf | and if you copy over the dot compilation feature, give it a longer time to work over. |
| 09:38.19 | Health | You want cooldown monitoring in combat text? |
| 09:38.24 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm3lPRnEISA |
| 09:38.25 | Neebler | rofl |
| 09:38.31 | ckknight | MoonWolf: DoT/HoT aggregation/throttling? |
| 09:38.35 | MoonWolf | up to 5 seconds or more, ys. |
| 09:38.40 | MoonWolf | yea* |
| 09:38.41 | Jagobah | yaaaaay \o/ |
| 09:38.54 | MoonWolf | if at all possible. |
| 09:39.05 | mitch0 | ckk: to do this, you have to scan the petbar to find the nova, and have to monitor that somehow (instead of Spells, as one would do normally) as the WE spells are not listed in the normal way (as for warlocks for example) |
| 09:39.06 | ckknight | MoonWolf: oh yea, I don't see any reason why not to make it arbitrarily short/long |
| 09:39.13 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 09:39.20 | ckknight | mitch0: ick. |
| 09:39.24 | mitch0 | ckk: yes |
| 09:39.43 | mitch0 | ckk: this is why I didn't hack it into MSBT cooldowns yet :) |
| 09:39.47 | ckknight | oh, also, I find MSBT's code ugly |
| 09:39.59 | ckknight | there are better ways to do things |
| 09:40.07 | mitch0 | ckk: I found one of your code sniplet ugly, too :) |
| 09:40.08 | Jagobah | Main thing I loved about it |
| 09:40.22 | Jagobah | was how it throttled multiple damage sources into a collaborative damage report |
| 09:40.23 | mitch0 | some ugly nested if insted of elsif :) |
| 09:40.29 | Jagobah | i.e. AOEing several targets |
| 09:40.33 | mitch0 | s/insted/instead/ |
| 09:40.35 | ckknight | mitch0: alright |
| 09:40.41 | mitch0 | ckk: exactly :) |
| 09:40.45 | ckknight | Jagobah: throttling _will_ be in |
| 09:40.53 | [dRaCo] | custom events, too? |
| 09:40.59 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: custom how? |
| 09:41.03 | Jagobah | good stuff |
| 09:41.12 | Wobin_ | Well, I'd want notification of say, mace stun effect etc |
| 09:41.13 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: I mean, you can make a 3rd party module to supply any arbitrary event you want |
| 09:41.19 | Jagobah | so ckknight when will we see your actionbar mod |
| 09:41.33 | Wobin_ | Or if I have five point envenom ready |
| 09:41.36 | ckknight | Jagobah: prolly never, I don't see the point in complex action bar mods |
| 09:41.42 | [dRaCo] | like msbt does it: add an event, check for the text, print a message when you find that text |
| 09:41.42 | Jagobah | hmm ok |
| 09:42.27 | Jagobah | if you ever get to 70 will we see raiding mods by you? |
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| 09:42.58 | ccKep | woshh |
| 09:43.00 | ckknight | Jagobah: I'm 39 now. |
| 09:43.15 | ckknight | Jagobah: but frankly, yes, if I start raiding, I will likely make raid mods |
| 09:43.33 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: well, yes. |
| 09:43.39 | ckknight | hey ccKep |
| 09:44.52 | Jagobah | woot (o'-')b |
| 09:45.01 | [dRaCo] | great :) |
| 09:45.19 | abbat_w | i hope ckk never got 70 |
| 09:45.27 | ckknight | lol, why's that? |
| 09:45.38 | abbat_w | Because you spen all time on raiding ;) |
| 09:45.41 | xystic | I hope he does... and then starts a raiding guild, and then lets me join, so I can go on raids. |
| 09:46.15 | abbat_w | And we never see any new mods which can be used in pvp ;) |
| 09:46.51 | xystic | (And I'll pay him back by being a test-monkey for all his mods!) |
| 09:47.12 | ckknight | lol, abbat_w |
| 09:47.25 | ckknight | xystic: I'm already in a raiding guild. |
| 09:47.33 | ckknight | oddly enough |
| 09:47.45 | ckknight | I joined a week or so ago |
| 09:47.50 | ckknight | haven't leveled at all yet |
| 09:47.54 | ckknight | I'm 5% away from 40 |
| 09:47.55 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:48.02 | ckknight | I don't want to level in case I need to PvP |
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| 09:48.05 | ckknight | also, I have projects to work on |
| 09:48.18 | ckknight | so I'm waiting for 150% rest |
| 09:49.08 | mitch0 | anyone here using wowi to publish their release quality mods? |
| 09:49.13 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 09:49.31 | ckknight | mitch0: I kinda gave up on that |
| 09:49.33 | mitch0 | wobin: do you know if it's possible to rename a mod with keeping its history somehow? |
| 09:49.34 | ckknight | curse is better to me |
| 09:49.41 | ckknight | mitch0: ask Cairenn|afk |
| 09:49.46 | mitch0 | curse is teh slowness |
| 09:50.00 | Wobin_ | yeah, ask Cairenn|afk |
| 09:50.14 | mitch0 | I'd rather ask Cairenn :) |
| 09:50.28 | mitch0 | probly better chance for an answer. I'll keep an eye on him |
| 09:50.32 | ckknight | either works |
| 09:50.33 | ckknight | her |
| 09:50.33 | phyber | so, my face was bitten off, my pastures were grazed and now my crackers will be eaten?! ckk's mods are a menace to us all! |
| 09:50.36 | Wobin_ | er... no http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml ? |
| 09:50.43 | ckknight | phyber: ah, it's true. |
| 09:50.50 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:50.54 | phyber | :) |
| 09:51.46 | mitch0 | what's the name of the new mod? cat? |
| 09:52.00 | Wobin_ | parrot |
| 09:52.04 | mitch0 | oh |
| 09:52.31 | ckknight | the crackers. |
| 09:52.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42485 10Aloft/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Aloft - automatically fix the casing of tags on set. |
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| 09:55.17 | sbu | morning |
| 09:56.04 | MoonWolf | I'll go create an empty mod with only a toc file. I'll call it convenience_store |
| 09:56.16 | MoonWolf | it will have cookies, grass and doghouses. |
| 09:56.19 | ccKep | WAU borked? (no index receiving if files.wowace.com is selected as mirror) |
| 09:56.32 | kebinusan | yay finally found the game I was looking for |
| 09:56.39 | kebinusan | my OCD is satisfied |
| 09:57.11 | cryogen | second time ive asked.. but does anyone have any more recommendations of a eu pvp server that isnt low pop and isnt swarming with non english people? |
| 09:57.13 | Gngsk | true OCD is never satisfied! |
| 09:57.19 | Moltarain | you need too use externals atm, else it will bork |
| 09:57.23 | kebinusan | well for the moment |
| 09:57.29 | Codayus | kebinusan: Heh, didn't you start looking like, hours ago? |
| 09:57.29 | abbat_w | parrot... i think it's be rainbow-colored =) |
| 09:57.33 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 09:57.40 | kebinusan | I remembered some old dos game I used to play |
| 09:57.48 | kebinusan | and couldnt remember the damn name of it |
| 09:57.51 | Codayus | What was it? |
| 09:57.54 | Wobin_ | http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml is empty atm, so wau won't work |
| 09:58.01 | abbat_w | retaliator i think;) |
| 09:58.04 | sbu | ccKep: same here |
| 09:58.05 | sbu | ah okay |
| 09:58.10 | ccKep | meh |
| 09:58.42 | Moltarain | cryogen: my servers is like the swe/no/dk server of them all :P it is so many that its crazy. sometimes its all swe in trade chan... |
| 09:58.56 | cryogen | i'll avoid that one then, which? :p |
| 09:58.58 | kebinusan | http://www.anotherworld.fr |
| 09:59.04 | kebinusan | apparently its been updated recently too |
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| 09:59.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42486 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - bugfix |
| 10:00.08 | sbu | <3 ckknight |
| 10:00.13 | pb_ee1 | What it the objective of Parrot? |
| 10:00.32 | ckknight | pb_ee1: Floating Combat Text of awesomeness. Caw. It'll eat your crackers. |
| 10:00.46 | ckknight | as you can see, the objective is the eating of crackers |
| 10:00.55 | ckknight | with a side effect of being a floating combat text addon |
| 10:00.59 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: T_T I knew you were an alien, but what kind of alien are you? |
| 10:01.06 | ckknight | Canadian |
| 10:01.11 | ckknight | though I'm American now |
| 10:01.14 | Codayus | Cracker eating is a good objective. |
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| 10:01.24 | pb_ee1 | Argh, you already told me that, but how many arms/heads/legs do you have? |
| 10:01.43 | ckknight | an adequate amount. |
| 10:02.02 | pb_ee1 | One head + 2 arms/AddOn |
| 10:02.13 | pb_ee1 | This makes.... hum a nice amount of fingers |
| 10:02.23 | _icetrain | ckknight: Just updated pitbull and now I can't get rid of the portraits, still show even if the module is disabled |
| 10:02.30 | ckknight | Iceroth: wasn't me |
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| 10:03.14 | ckknight | lemme update |
| 10:03.20 | ckknight | see if some rogue third party messed it up |
| 10:03.26 | ckknight | nope |
| 10:03.29 | ckknight | guess not |
| 10:03.38 | ckknight | err, meant _icetrain, not Iceroth |
| 10:03.38 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: Why did you make Parrot, if there are SCT? Does this AddOn not correspond to what you want? |
| 10:03.52 | ckknight | pb_ee1: I can't hack SCT and the author's never around or receptive. |
| 10:04.03 | Codayus | Most people have an above-average number of arms and legs. True story. |
| 10:04.27 | Sole | whats the torrent program of choice in this channel? |
| 10:04.32 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: That's not totally wrong, SCT is not updated often, too |
| 10:04.37 | sbu | Antiarc: "Changed default warning sound to None " <- thank you :o |
| 10:04.51 | pb_ee1 | s/not totally wrong/absolutely right/ |
| 10:04.54 | Codayus | Sole: uTorrent for me... |
| 10:05.05 | pb_ee1 | Argh, forgot the "," |
| 10:05.08 | ckknight | pb_ee1: lol, okay, right. |
| 10:05.16 | Sole | Codayus: I like the fact that uTorrent is just so damn small |
| 10:06.15 | Sole | LOL |
| 10:06.25 | Codayus | uTorrent appears to do what I want in a fairly efficient fashion. I used to use Azureus, and it was just annoying. |
| 10:06.33 | Sole | theres an icon texture pack for uTorrent using WoW icons |
| 10:06.39 | sbu | lol :p |
| 10:06.45 | Sole | http://www.utorrent.com/skins.php - 5 & 6 |
| 10:07.18 | pb_ee1 | lol |
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| 10:08.01 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: http://files.wowace.com/ not responding |
| 10:08.09 | pb_ee1 | Just did... |
| 10:08.23 | Sole | wow I'm impressed. uTorrent supports Blizzard downloader. Does it detect it automatically Codayus? |
| 10:08.43 | Codayus | It does? Uh...I have no idea? oO |
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| 10:09.32 | sbu | Sole: huh? blizz DL? |
| 10:10.05 | pb_ee1 | Sole: You mean the blizzard .torrent file for downloading patches? |
| 10:10.10 | Sole | yes |
| 10:10.13 | pb_ee1 | Ha |
| 10:10.26 | pb_ee1 | That's normal: it's the aime of µTorrent to support .torrent files ^_^ |
| 10:10.28 | sbu | uhm - its .torrent? :p |
| 10:10.34 | Sole | SHH |
| 10:10.49 | Sole | Feature: Client ID parsing for Blizzard Downloader |
| 10:10.55 | Sole | from the uTorrent beta changelog |
| 10:11.00 | pb_ee1 | sbu: You can find the .torrent file in your WoW/Cache folder |
| 10:11.01 | Sole | now stop laughing |
| 10:11.11 | pb_ee1 | Sole: buh |
| 10:11.19 | vithos | the .torrents are just appended to the patch downloader exe's |
| 10:11.36 | vithos | you can search for "announce" with a hex editor, the initial "magic number" is d8 |
| 10:11.42 | vithos | but that's got nothing to do with clientid |
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| 10:12.25 | cryogen | surely thats just to show "blizzard downloader" instead of "unknown client" in the peer list? :p |
| 10:12.41 | vithos | yeah, instead of the BLZ<garbage> i believe |
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| 10:18.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42487 10Assessment/ (AssessmentTag.lua CoreModules/DisplaySets.lua): Assessment - fix casing of tags on get/set. |
| 10:18.33 | ckknight | well, that's done |
| 10:19.02 | Punkie` | ckknight: Parrot needs rainbow animation :( |
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| 10:19.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 10:19.27 | Punkie` | ckknight: Parrot needs rainbow animation :( |
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| 10:19.46 | ckknight | lol |
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| 10:20.14 | sbu | Punkie`: he doesnt like you!! |
| 10:20.22 | Punkie` | but it's the best :( |
| 10:20.41 | ckknight | Punkie`: it'd be very easy to add |
| 10:21.11 | Punkie` | I know, just checked the code |
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| 10:26.40 | pb_ee1 | It seems wowace files server is down, isn't it? It does not update the addons (parrot could not be seen in the list) |
| 10:27.01 | Fisker- | wow |
| 10:27.06 | Fisker- | codemasters actually published a good game |
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| 10:28.35 | sbu | yes? |
| 10:29.20 | sbu | Fisker-: overlord? |
| 10:29.45 | Gandharva | pb_ee1: Forum is also very very slow |
| 10:30.25 | pb_ee1 | yup :-( |
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| 10:36.10 | Fisker- | indeed sbu |
| 10:39.05 | MoonWolf | overlord is brilliant. |
| 10:39.08 | MoonWolf | havn't finished it yet |
| 10:39.17 | MoonWolf | its rather big for a game like that nowaday's |
| 10:39.39 | Fisker- | it's better than fable :P |
| 10:40.07 | MoonWolf | its nothing LIKE fable |
| 10:40.12 | MoonWolf | its more like pikmin |
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| 10:40.39 | Wixi | Problem with files.wowace.com? |
| 10:40.46 | Wixi | ah its ok, was taking forever |
| 10:42.59 | nevcairiel | did anyone here try that felguard degrader event in blades edge? |
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| 10:47.05 | ben | nevcairiel: I had two shots at it, lost terribly, read up on the strategy and did not get a darkrune since |
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| 10:48.32 | abbat_w | Hmm... what is it 'Dongle' guys? |
| 10:48.50 | abbat_w | framework like ace? |
| 10:49.29 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 10:49.32 | Fisker- | it just crashed |
| 10:50.05 | abbat_w | i just read topic where tekkub say goodbye to ace community |
| 10:50.07 | nevcairiel | ben: i managed the first demon just fine, but failed on the second. guess i will try again when i have more crystal focus .. i still have a darkrune now :P |
| 10:51.24 | ben | Yeah, I died on the second boss too. |
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| 10:52.36 | mitch0 | tekkub is the tinytip guy? |
| 10:52.41 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:52.53 | mitch0 | abbat_w: link? |
| 10:52.54 | ckknight | mitch0: Thrae is |
| 10:52.59 | mitch0 | ah, yeah |
| 10:53.37 | ckknight | abbat_w: link? |
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| 10:56.34 | kontagious | hey |
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| 10:56.48 | ccKep | [12:42:59] <nevcairiel> did anyone here try that felguard degrader event in blades edge? |
| 10:56.51 | ccKep | completed it a while ago |
| 10:56.57 | ccKep | stopped doing the daily's after that ^.^ |
| 10:57.07 | ckknight | hey kontagious |
| 10:57.09 | kontagious | how come if i go afk for 30 min my account logs out... how do i get rested fully |
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| 10:57.39 | sbu | log out? :o |
| 10:57.47 | Punkie` | kontagious: log out in an inn |
| 10:57.48 | kontagious | yeah it just goes to the character select screen |
| 10:57.51 | ccKep | you still get rested bonus even if logged out :o |
| 10:57.55 | kontagious | OH |
| 10:58.09 | kontagious | that's cool |
| 10:58.16 | kontagious | and it takes 8 hours for 1 bar of rested? |
| 10:58.24 | Punkie` | no idea |
| 10:58.33 | ccKep | http://www.wowwiki.com/Rested |
| 10:58.35 | nevcairiel | ccKep: any useful hints for the 2nd demon? i fail :P |
| 10:58.44 | Punkie` | you will level way faster if you just level, rather than waiting for some rested xp |
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| 10:59.00 | kontagious | i was just wondering how it worked for when i go to bed |
| 10:59.00 | ccKep | "One bubble (5% of a level) of rested XP is earned for every 8 hours spent resting, up to a maximum of 30 bubbles, 150% of a level" |
| 10:59.01 | ckknight | kontagious: it's something like that. It's 150% for 10 days |
| 10:59.04 | ckknight | or 15% per day |
| 10:59.10 | ccKep | nevcairiel: what's the second demon again? the shivan assasin? |
| 10:59.13 | ckknight | or 5% (one bubble) per 8 hours |
| 10:59.21 | kontagious | ok thanks |
| 10:59.23 | nevcairiel | no the doomguard thing |
| 10:59.32 | kontagious | what addons do you guys use |
| 10:59.37 | clad|away | rest XP is a nice bonus, but its only worth it to wait if you have enough alts to juggle the time =) |
| 10:59.38 | nevcairiel | with the super-flight :P |
| 10:59.42 | ccKep | doomguard vs. shivan? |
| 10:59.45 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 11:00.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42488 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - bugfixings. |
| 11:00.14 | ccKep | basically you need to keep the blow that reduces damage done by 50% on the greater demons up at all times |
| 11:00.14 | nevcairiel | i tried stunning her all the time, but didnt really work out somehow :o |
| 11:00.21 | ccKep | anf use the drain life ability when it's ready |
| 11:00.24 | abbat_w | mitch0, ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6977.0 |
| 11:00.35 | kontagious | what plugins would you guys recommend |
| 11:00.37 | abbat_w | this is link to tekkub message |
| 11:00.45 | ccKep | you need to have 100% health when the assassin comes free |
| 11:00.45 | nevcairiel | oh well will try again tomorrow or so :) |
| 11:01.07 | ckknight | hrm |
| 11:01.11 | ccKep | drain life ability on the smaller demons that want to create the cannons and the -50% damage blow on the greater ones |
| 11:01.29 | ccKep | when the assassin comes free use the 5 min cooldown bomb |
| 11:01.33 | ccKep | which consumes a crystal focus |
| 11:01.48 | ccKep | that'll destroy all demons at the ground and do a good amount of damage to the assassin |
| 11:01.53 | nevcairiel | i used that too early when i was crowded with mobs .. died on the assassin then |
| 11:02.13 | kontagious | what is the plugin that shows where certain monsters are |
| 11:02.17 | ccKep | well, what also helps: take some people with you to assist you ;) |
| 11:02.19 | ckknight | hrm |
| 11:02.24 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 11:02.26 | ccKep | the "bosses" are all fear-able |
| 11:02.36 | ccKep | we chain feared the assassin to keep it from casting her stuff on me |
| 11:02.50 | ccKep | also curse of tongues work =) |
| 11:03.03 | ccKep | once you control the shivan assassin the event gets REALLY funny |
| 11:03.07 | ccKep | she has tons of abilities |
| 11:03.15 | ccKep | shapeshift into different forms (fire, shadow, frost form) |
| 11:03.44 | ccKep | and you get to stack a flame buffet on mobs, which increases fire damage taken by 50k or so |
| 11:03.57 | ccKep | one of my warlock guildmates did a 70k incinerate then xD |
| 11:03.59 | nevcairiel | was my first try tho, the first demon was way too easy, the second was kinda hard then :P |
| 11:04.12 | ccKep | 2nd one is the hard point in the event |
| 11:04.13 | [gk]Hotphoenix | is there a known problem with wau and vista btw? |
| 11:04.49 | Tem | don't cheat on the shartuul event |
| 11:04.59 | Tem | it'll make you feel cheap |
| 11:05.01 | ckknight | I don't want to fan flames about Tekkub's departure message, but I'll say this: I believe he's misinformed on a few things |
| 11:05.08 | ccKep | I don't do the event / daily's anymore |
| 11:05.11 | Tem | plus beating it on your own is fun |
| 11:05.20 | ccKep | the time I killed shartuul it dropped a depleted mace....... |
| 11:05.24 | Tem | I got my first kill the other day |
| 11:05.29 | Tem | and I didn't use any foci |
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| 11:05.35 | abbat_w | ckknight, what is it 'dongle'? |
| 11:05.39 | nevcairiel | i only do the dailys for money |
| 11:05.50 | nevcairiel | and i had all that crystal focus and darkrune stuff |
| 11:05.53 | nevcairiel | so i wanted to try |
| 11:05.53 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:06.02 | ckknight | abbat_w: Dongle is an addon framework, like Ace2, only done differently |
| 11:06.03 | Tem | nevcairiel, I do them for the opportunity to do the event |
| 11:06.06 | Tem | because it rocks |
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| 11:06.13 | nevcairiel | yeah its great |
| 11:06.13 | ccKep | << restoration shaman, takes me too long to do the daily's (only got 60% flying mount...) |
| 11:06.14 | abbat_w | ah |
| 11:06.14 | Tem | the money is a bonus |
| 11:06.34 | Tem | ccKep, I just got my epic flyer today |
| 11:06.35 | Tem | :) |
| 11:06.43 | nevcairiel | i am a restoration druid, but i can usually find someone to help me kill those 15 demons |
| 11:06.43 | ckknight | Tem: grats |
| 11:06.48 | nevcairiel | all other dailys up there are easy |
| 11:07.03 | Tem | nevcairiel, yeah, I usually group just to make it go faster |
| 11:07.20 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, just found mage and do aoe in cavern |
| 11:07.33 | Tem | nevcairiel, basically, for the second demon, know that the chaos strike does triple damage to stunned targets |
| 11:07.34 | abbat_w | mage kill you heal ;) |
| 11:07.36 | ccKep | I did the daily's with my warlock alt and with my shaman a few weeks ago, gave nearly 150g per day for just an hour work.. that was ok =) |
| 11:07.45 | Tem | nevcairiel, also, keep fel flames up all the time |
| 11:07.58 | Tem | and for the shivan assassin bossfight, just keep her stunlocked |
| 11:08.07 | Tem | your axe throw is a stun |
| 11:08.10 | nevcairiel | i tried to keep everything up when ready, but its sometimes not easy to find some mobs for jumping |
| 11:08.14 | Tem | and the super jump is a 10 second stun |
| 11:09.16 | nevcairiel | it stuns the mobs from where i jump too right? |
| 11:09.22 | Tem | aye |
| 11:09.50 | Tem | next time I get a darkrune, I want to make a video |
| 11:09.57 | Tem | damnit |
| 11:10.07 | Tem | just talking about it makes me want to log and do dailies |
| 11:10.14 | nevcairiel | i have one crystalforged and one unforged darkrune |
| 11:10.20 | nevcairiel | but no crystal focus anymore |
| 11:10.21 | nevcairiel | *cry |
| 11:10.26 | Tem | go buy some on the AH |
| 11:10.29 | Tem | they're cheap as hell |
| 11:10.30 | nevcairiel | none there :( |
| 11:10.35 | Tem | srsly? |
| 11:10.38 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 11:10.40 | Tem | wow |
| 11:10.47 | Tem | I'm up to 20 now... |
| 11:10.53 | Tem | since I don't need them for the event |
| 11:11.16 | Tem | and once you learn how to deal with stages 1 and 2, the rest is easy |
| 11:11.26 | Tem | well, I suppose you have to learn how to use the assassin too |
| 11:11.26 | ccKep | it took me 9 days of doing daily's with 2 characters until I got the darkrune for the event -.- |
| 11:11.30 | Tem | but you get what I mean |
| 11:11.38 | Tem | ccKep, that's pretty shitty luck |
| 11:11.43 | nevcairiel | dont you get one darkrune from doing the inital quest? |
| 11:11.48 | Tem | you do |
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| 11:12.25 | Neebler | SRSLY YOU GUYS SRSLY! |
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| 11:13.38 | ckknight | Neebler: ? |
| 11:13.39 | Tem | nevcairiel, something I didn't realize at first is that fel flames lasts a LONG time |
| 11:13.45 | Tem | and you don't need to stand still |
| 11:13.54 | Tem | you can even do other spells |
| 11:13.57 | Tem | and it keeps going |
| 11:14.02 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 11:14.06 | nevcairiel | i didnt do other spells |
| 11:14.14 | nevcairiel | but i moved |
| 11:14.18 | Tem | just hit it and return to spamming chaos strike |
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| 11:14.34 | Tem | oh and use the consume essense every time it's up |
| 11:15.02 | Tem | when you see a peon channeling a blue something into the ground, he's summoning a fel cannon |
| 11:15.10 | Tem | if you catch him it won't complete |
| 11:15.30 | nevcairiel | yea i noticed that |
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| 11:15.46 | nevcairiel | good targets for the heal, or the jump :P |
| 11:16.10 | Tem | aye |
| 11:16.13 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: How does parrot work? It does not seem to do anything on my UI :'( |
| 11:16.48 | ckknight | pb_ee1: doesn't do much yet |
| 11:16.58 | ckknight | pb_ee1: but it should say +Combat and -Combat |
| 11:17.06 | ckknight | as you enter/leave combat |
| 11:17.11 | pb_ee1 | Aha I see, thanks ;-) |
| 11:17.18 | pb_ee1 | I'm going to try this :-P |
| 11:19.02 | ckknight | soon it'll be more advanced |
| 11:19.09 | ckknight | I started it earlier today |
| 11:19.15 | Health | With lazors? |
| 11:19.24 | ckknight | Health: and rainbowz |
| 11:19.34 | Health | Sweet |
| 11:19.42 | nevcairiel | i already see pitbull going dead because he has a new project now =P |
| 11:20.50 | abbat_w | Hmm... |
| 11:21.11 | abbat_w | Maybe Nimbia and JoshBorke make some sexy animation styles for Parrot? :) |
| 11:21.27 | ckknight | nevcairiel: now that's not true |
| 11:21.40 | ckknight | the animation system is very hackable |
| 11:21.50 | Health | JoshBorke sucks at sexy animations |
| 11:21.54 | nevcairiel | there was alot of "i dont care about carto"-attitude once you started pitbull :P |
| 11:22.25 | abbat_w | Health, wrong. Look at pitbull barfader |
| 11:22.52 | Health | abbat_w: He couldn't get the pretty highlight in the barfader tho! |
| 11:23.11 | Health | And barfader is buggy |
| 11:23.16 | Health | At least for me.... really jumpy |
| 11:23.17 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:23.27 | Health | Any solution to fixa a jumpy barfader? |
| 11:23.31 | ckknight | nevcairiel: because Carto's basically complete. |
| 11:23.36 | Health | The bar jumps back and forth |
| 11:23.49 | *** part/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F54825.versanet.de) |
| 11:23.51 | abbat_w | Health, all ok for me. Don't see any bugs |
| 11:24.16 | nevcairiel | except the major bugs it had with some of the patches .. :) |
| 11:24.30 | Health | Not sure why... Can fraps the looks later |
| 11:24.44 | krka | k |
| 11:25.05 | Health | fuck off r-tard! get back to vacattion! |
| 11:25.09 | Health | -t |
| 11:25.30 | Health | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.07 | JoshBorke | wtf is Parrot? |
| 11:29.10 | liquiem | could someone do me a favor and check if /. works? |
| 11:29.25 | JoshBorke | and yes, barfader is jumpy with the fade option |
| 11:29.29 | ckknight | JoshBorke: ## Notes: Floating Combat Text of awesomeness. Caw. It'll eat your crackers. |
| 11:29.36 | Health | JoshBorke: ck's SCT |
| 11:29.41 | JoshBorke | got it |
| 11:29.57 | Health | I shall remove the fade option |
| 11:29.57 | liquiem | parrot, stupid name :/ |
| 11:30.09 | ckknight | liquiem's a pretty stupid name. |
| 11:30.09 | Health | liquiem, stupid name :/ |
| 11:30.22 | liquiem | pitbull.. agressiv, cow .. well, got milk? .. parrot hmm |
| 11:30.28 | vhaarr | nub |
| 11:30.34 | liquiem | thanks :p |
| 11:30.40 | *** kick/#wowace [liquiem!n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net] by vhaarr (Watch more Monty Python.) |
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| 11:30.55 | ckknight | parrot squawks a lot |
| 11:31.09 | ckknight | which is what it does\ |
| 11:31.20 | liquiem | that wasnt worth a kick! |
| 11:31.22 | ckknight | also, it's an homage to the parrot sketch by monty python |
| 11:31.30 | ckknight | it was a fake kick anyway |
| 11:32.02 | liquiem | youtube time for now to see that sketch |
| 11:32.14 | vhaarr | liquiem: I kicked you so you could get time to watch MP instead of reading text in this channel. |
| 11:32.17 | vhaarr | sorry, just trying to help |
| 11:32.18 | vhaarr | jeez |
| 11:32.29 | Leialyn | humn, why is range check on pitbull only working for my twink and not for my main when both are using same (default) profile? Oo |
| 11:32.58 | liquiem | vhaarr: you single task'ted mind ;) |
| 11:32.58 | ckknight | lol |
| 11:33.47 | Leialyn | http://www.radonspace.de/uploads/images/pitbullbug2.png left side its not working, right side it is (distance to others is same on both screens), help me ckknight ;) |
| 11:33.59 | vhaarr | Red |
| 11:34.01 | vhaarr | Yellow |
| 11:34.04 | vhaarr | Green |
| 11:34.05 | vhaarr | Norwegian Blue |
| 11:34.08 | vhaarr | \o/ |
| 11:34.11 | ckknight | ...lol |
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| 11:36.07 | Dionne | :O |
| 11:37.02 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 11:37.56 | Dionne | /hi - I got a little question here - I have too many icons around my minimap, so I wanna disable one of them. I've looked on the mod's config, readme, help files, almost everything. But no option. So, is there a way to modify the lua to make the mod not put an icon there? |
| 11:38.23 | Wixti | dionne: i use fubar to manage icons |
| 11:38.52 | JoshBorke | you mean you use fubar to manage fubar plugins |
| 11:39.08 | Dionne | I just wanna kill one icon, thats all... I already have enough addons :P |
| 11:39.14 | ckknight | Dionne: which addon? |
| 11:39.26 | Dionne | I tried looking on the .lua about "icon" but I didn't understand much :\ |
| 11:39.31 | Dionne | Omen |
| 11:39.33 | jwwpua_ | is WAU closing by itself for anyone else? |
| 11:39.41 | ckknight | Dionne: it should have a "Hide plugin" option |
| 11:40.27 | Dionne | Hide plugin... sounds odd. I just want to hide the icon, and still have the mod working :P - They should rename that option if that's what it does... imo. |
| 11:41.00 | ckknight | Dionne: hide plugin = hide icon. |
| 11:41.16 | ckknight | Dionne: I don't get the discrepancy |
| 11:41.21 | Tem | boo, no darkrune |
| 11:41.36 | ckknight | Dionne: especially since you can hide the plugin when it's on FuBar as well as on the minimap |
| 11:43.18 | Dionne | hide plugin sounds like... its gonna stop working |
| 11:43.51 | dRiN | when you hide in the game hide and seek, your heart stops? :D |
| 11:44.02 | ckknight | Dionne: no, that's what the "Disable" button does |
| 11:44.03 | liquiem | naw, like hide window, hide taskbar, hide behind a tree.. the human doesnt die if he hides ;) |
| 11:44.22 | ckknight | liquiem: unless you're very existentialistic |
| 11:44.30 | ckknight | where only that which you can sense exists |
| 11:46.09 | liquiem | quantum theory comes to my mind. is he really dead if he hides, does he exists after hiding himself. hum |
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| 11:47.24 | ckknight | well that only depends if the degradation of a quantum isotope causes his heart to stop if hiding |
| 11:47.32 | ckknight | otherwise, I really don't see how quantum theory is involved |
| 11:48.14 | Dionne | Looked on the mod... no "hide" anywhere. Searched for text "hide" in all the files in the Omen folder, no match :\ |
| 11:48.17 | ckknight | unless for some reason you want to explore the multiverse where in some universe the man hides and his heart stops, though that'd be more coincidental than anything |
| 11:48.30 | ckknight | Dionne: yea, cause it's in FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua |
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| 11:49.42 | Dionne | Hmm... I'm pretty sure I have recurse subdirectories... alas, this is windows search >_< |
| 11:50.56 | dodgizzla | So is files.wowace.com kinda broken atm? :D |
| 11:51.25 | Dionne | I think servers is quite loaded, took like half a minute to open for me. |
| 11:51.34 | jwwpua_ | i think so, WAU isn't getting the index |
| 11:51.37 | ckknight | also, why can't I commit to SVN? |
| 11:51.39 | ckknight | bah |
| 11:51.44 | ckknight | server might be pwned |
| 11:51.55 | ckknight | I have a good Parrot commit, too |
| 11:51.56 | Roartindon | ckknight: I can't even check out from svn |
| 11:52.08 | ckknight | Roartindon: hey, you're back |
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| 11:52.14 | Roartindon | ckknight: Just got on |
| 11:52.20 | ckknight | Roartindon: okay, I did the whole PascalCase thing to TagCompiler |
| 11:52.25 | Roartindon | been thinking about TagCompiler stuff |
| 11:52.27 | ckknight | Roartindon: and I updated Assessment and Aloft |
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| 11:52.43 | Roartindon | There's some stuff that I think there's some stuff that I'd like PascalCase, and some stuff mixedCase |
| 11:52.50 | ckknight | bah |
| 11:53.06 | ckknight | either way, I decided for Parrot, that your system is way too heavy to use |
| 11:53.24 | Roartindon | ckknight: okay, I was also thinking that it may not be the most suitable |
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| 11:53.31 | Roartindon | ckknight: For what you want, if you just want to substitute [amount] |
| 11:53.40 | ckknight | I do a gsub now ;-) |
| 11:53.57 | Roartindon | ckknight: Yeah, that makes more sense imho.. for something with such limited scope |
| 11:54.01 | ckknight | you make like 5 tables plus a function per tag, and that's way more than necessary, imho |
| 11:54.09 | ckknight | even for your stuff |
| 11:54.34 | Roartindon | ckknight: Aloft creates maybe 8 tags for the entire thing, if you're not changing configuration |
| 11:54.44 | ckknight | either way, if you want to change to camelCase instead of PascalCase, it should be very easy to do, just change the tag definitions, everything else will fall into place |
| 11:54.55 | Roartindon | ckknight: Ok |
| 11:55.10 | ckknight | Roartindon: Parrot makes a new tag scope for every event |
| 11:55.12 | ravagernl | You're not going to use DogTag? Out of scope? |
| 11:55.15 | ckknight | the data from one event isn't the same |
| 11:55.20 | ckknight | ravagernl: DogTag is unit-specific |
| 11:55.28 | sbu | hmm - does anyone remember that fancy wow combat log stuff? where you can put combat logs and get detailed report webpages |
| 11:55.32 | ravagernl | I see |
| 11:55.45 | Roartindon | ckknight: The idea was that tags would be precompiled (as they are in Aloft and Assessment) |
| 11:56.01 | ckknight | well, yes, and they can be in Parrot no issue |
| 11:56.01 | Roartindon | ckknight: And then use them as many times as necessary ever.. TagCompiler::Compile was meant to be a 'setup' call, not a runtime call |
| 11:56.29 | ckknight | DogTag uses an internal caching system to do the compilation behind the scenes |
| 11:56.32 | Neebler | sbu: WoW Web Stats www.lossendil.com/wws/ |
| 11:56.37 | ckknight | which, imho, is much cleaner |
| 11:56.38 | sbu | Neebler: thank you :) |
| 11:56.49 | Roartindon | ckknight: Well, I do the caching in AloftTag and in AssessmentTag |
| 11:57.02 | Roartindon | ckknight: Because I didn't want TagCompiler to be caching things it didn't need to |
| 11:57.11 | ckknight | Roartindon: which I think is unnecessary, honestly, cause everyone in their right mind would want to cache... |
| 11:57.49 | Roartindon | ckknight: You will take the result, and use it, but you should need to call TagCompiler:Compile other than setup, or reconfiguration |
| 11:57.50 | ckknight | if you don't cache, then it's wasted memory (for GC) anyway |
| 11:58.25 | ckknight | well, with a cache system, it would only be functionally called once |
| 11:58.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42489 10Parrot/ (Damage/ EnterLeave/ Events.lua Parrot.lua Parrot.toc): Parrot - events are now handled in Events.lua, with a streamlined system instead of relying on separate modules (though that's still a possibility) |
| 11:58.52 | Roartindon | ckknight: bleh, I can't even svn log atm or checkout, |
| 11:58.56 | ckknight | oh wow, went through |
| 11:59.07 | ckknight | took 15 minutes |
| 11:59.32 | ckknight | Parrot's events can now be added arbitrarily |
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| 11:59.44 | Morghus | SCT/MSBT-addon ckknight? |
| 11:59.45 | ckknight | so I'll fill that up and steal all of MSBT's events |
| 11:59.51 | ckknight | yea, Morghus |
| 11:59.58 | ckknight | but now, I should sleep |
| 12:00.04 | Punkie` | ckknight: what class do you play btw? |
| 12:00.04 | Roartindon | ckknight: Right now, caching is useful if multiple calls of the same tag will be made |
| 12:00.09 | ckknight | Punkie`: Pally |
| 12:00.10 | Morghus | Sleep well :) |
| 12:00.17 | Punkie` | ckknight: eww |
| 12:00.30 | ckknight | Roartindon: but if you don't cache then the function is created and nilled, right? |
| 12:00.46 | ckknight | Punkie`: what? |
| 12:00.49 | Roartindon | ckknight: I think I haven't explained it quite right, how I use it: |
| 12:01.33 | Roartindon | ckknight: ie. When Aloft name text sets up, it essentially calls: compileData = TagCompiler:Compile(tag, aloftTagDataStruct, "string") |
| 12:01.40 | Roartindon | After that, it only ever calls compileData.method(data) |
| 12:01.41 | ckknight | right |
| 12:01.45 | ckknight | I got that. |
| 12:01.50 | Roartindon | and it never ever calls TagCompiler:Compile() again |
| 12:01.54 | ckknight | right. |
| 12:02.13 | Roartindon | So the only time a cache would save, is if TagCompiler:Compile is called with the same tag, alfotTagDataStruct, and "string" |
| 12:02.28 | Roartindon | Which, during normal usage, is never |
| 12:02.50 | ckknight | ah, you misunderstood me |
| 12:02.54 | Roartindon | Assessment definitely gains tho, because the compiler will be called with old strings as users navigate through menus |
| 12:03.00 | Roartindon | ckknight: Ah, how so? |
| 12:03.06 | ckknight | basically, I was recommending a merge of the compilation and execution process |
| 12:03.27 | Roartindon | ckknight: You mean like DogTag handling font strings? |
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| 12:03.39 | ckknight | right |
| 12:03.41 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 12:04.03 | ckknight | DogTag:Evaluate("code", "unit") |
| 12:04.03 | ckknight | does basically that. |
| 12:04.23 | Roartindon | ckknight: You assume that the result is a fontstring :) |
| 12:04.25 | Roartindon | or text |
| 12:04.40 | ckknight | no, I don't |
| 12:04.59 | ckknight | :Evaluate just parses, compiles, and executes |
| 12:04.59 | ckknight | if the compiled code is already there, then use the cache |
| 12:05.23 | Roartindon | ckknight: Okay, I see waht you mean.. but |
| 12:05.50 | Roartindon | ckknight: I think having it return a structure with a method, that can be cached locally, will shortcut a lot of calls/overhead that is unnecessary |
| 12:06.03 | Roartindon | TagCompilers tags can be called well over 1000x per second in assessment |
| 12:06.19 | Roartindon | That's a function call (and a look up of "Evaluate"), and a table lookup in the cache every call |
| 12:06.21 | Roartindon | That's unnecessary |
| 12:06.48 | Roartindon | Actually, change 1000x to 10,000x |
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| 12:07.20 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 12:07.22 | ravagernl | lag |
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| 12:07.31 | ckknight | I still think you create way too many tables per compilation |
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| 12:08.11 | Roartindon | ckknight: Heh, all of the tables I create in combination, is less than one dewdrop menu :) |
| 12:08.24 | Roartindon | err.. AceOptions table menu I mean |
| 12:08.56 | ckknight | yea, but still, cut down on the tables :-P |
| 12:09.16 | ckknight | it seems (to me) like you should just return the function |
| 12:09.16 | ckknight | and that's it. |
| 12:09.31 | Roartindon | ckknight: Nah, Aloft absolutely needs more informatio than just function |
| 12:09.44 | ckknight | such as? |
| 12:09.47 | Roartindon | ckknight: It needs to know what events might trigger that string to need recompilation |
| 12:09.52 | snirks | lets send WAU errormessages to microsoft |
| 12:09.56 | Roartindon | ckknight: It needs to know what data is required to create that function |
| 12:09.58 | ravagernl | please get wowace fixed, my friend is updating pitbull from curse gaming |
| 12:09.59 | ckknight | oh |
| 12:09.59 | ravagernl | .... |
| 12:10.06 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 12:10.13 | ckknight | ravagernl: donate to wowace? |
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| 12:10.22 | ckknight | ravagernl: and tell your friend that that version is way out of date. |
| 12:10.24 | Roartindon | ckknight: Similarly, Assessment builds all of the events it depends on based on the tag compiler returns |
| 12:10.39 | ravagernl | Yeah, I did donate actually |
| 12:10.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 12:10.49 | ckknight | hey Mikk |
| 12:10.50 | Roartindon | ckknight: eg. if you have damageDone/combatTime, it'll update whenever the damage table is marked as updated, and whenever time changes |
| 12:10.57 | Mikk | ckknight: 'lo |
| 12:11.05 | Roartindon | ckknight: Whereas if it's just "damageDone", then it is no longer dependent on combatTime, and none of the tags update for it |
| 12:11.21 | ckknight | Roartindon: right. That's handled in DogTag for you, so it's a nonissue. *shrug* |
| 12:11.38 | ckknight | I see where your situation is different, though |
| 12:11.41 | Roartindon | ckknight: Yeah, but it can't be in Aloft |
| 12:11.49 | ckknight | unless... |
| 12:11.51 | Roartindon | ckknight: And assessment uses the tags so differently |
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| 12:12.06 | Roartindon | ckknight: Assessment has tags for filtering your list type and stuff |
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| 12:12.13 | Roartindon | ckknight: And sort keys |
| 12:12.36 | Roartindon | ckknight: And bar value, update texts, report texts, etc. Some of it matters and needs to respond to events, some of it isn't interactive, and is only on demand |
| 12:12.59 | Roartindon | ckknight: So if there's a tag that's for report text, the system doesn't care what data or events it needs, it only displays it when a report is printed |
| 12:15.04 | Neebler | ckknight: offtopic from your conversation with roartindon, but is there a way to SetDesaturated all of the icons displayed on FuBar, aside from editing each individual fubar addon? |
| 12:15.31 | ravagernl | why would you want that? |
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| 12:15.57 | Neebler | I just desaturated all of bartenders buttons http://neebler.tetro.net/desaturated.jpg to give you an idea of the greyscale streamline look I'm going for |
| 12:16.12 | Roartindon | hey, my checkout finished! |
| 12:16.19 | Roartindon | That's the longest svn checkout ever for 1 file |
| 12:16.40 | clad|away | ack, what file? |
| 12:16.51 | Roartindon | clad|away: Nah, I think the server just woke up for me |
| 12:17.01 | Sole | problem: I formatted today. I installed AVI Codec Pack +. I play an avi file with VLC. And the colors are still grey-ish. Anybody know whats up? |
| 12:17.10 | clad|away | hehe.. a few people said its slow today, but I only have so much I can look at =) |
| 12:17.17 | Moltarain | Sole: wrong drivers |
| 12:17.17 | Roartindon | clad|away: ckknight said his commit took 15 minutes |
| 12:17.24 | clad|away | yikes |
| 12:17.29 | Sole | Moltarain: video card drivers? |
| 12:17.31 | Roartindon | ckknight: My co of TagCompiler-1.0 took about 15 minutes too |
| 12:17.33 | Mikk | commits can take bloody forever if CIA is acting up |
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| 12:17.38 | Moltarain | Sole: y. its a bug |
| 12:17.43 | snirks | wau spewed out errormessages like enraged sporebats |
| 12:17.51 | clad|away | Mikk: That python script should be run in the background, it used to be. |
| 12:17.52 | snirks | spews out poison |
| 12:17.57 | Sole | Moltarain: Im guess 94.24 Forceware? |
| 12:18.09 | Moltarain | Sole: depends on your hw |
| 12:18.13 | Mikk | clad|away: mmmh but the shell will refuse to exit until the child dies |
| 12:18.30 | Mikk | unless you're properly daemoning it |
| 12:18.53 | clad|away | bah. |
| 12:18.58 | Moltarain | maybe someone should stop having a online trance radio running on wowace? |
| 12:19.01 | Mikk | looks to me like the web swerver is properly overloaded atm though... my RSS feeds are refusing to update |
| 12:19.19 | Sole | nvidia 7950 gt |
| 12:19.40 | clad|away | Mikk: aye.. i think pasta and kaelten are the only two with root |
| 12:19.51 | Moltarain | i dont think its the server it self its teh bandwith |
| 12:20.08 | clad|away | lighttpd is relatively fine |
| 12:20.12 | clad|away | slow, but running and fine. |
| 12:20.21 | clad|away | for that matter, apache is fine too |
| 12:20.35 | clad|away | it might be getting DOS'd |
| 12:21.12 | Mikk | i'm thinking apache might have just hit the worker process roof if CIA is acting up |
| 12:21.13 | Moltarain | maybe. but i dont find that so likely |
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| 12:21.32 | Uhuru | Hi |
| 12:21.37 | clad|away | Moltarain: Why not? it happens all the time |
| 12:21.51 | Trancer | wowace runs lighty? |
| 12:22.01 | Trancer | or still apache? |
| 12:22.02 | Uhuru | someone can advice me an add on to show heals that i make on my targets ? |
| 12:22.10 | Mikk | Trancer: both |
| 12:22.52 | Roartindon | ckknight: Re :Evaluate() - the same function can be made |
| 12:23.02 | Roartindon | ckknight: But it'll have to generate several lookups |
| 12:23.11 | clad|away | Trancer: Lighty serves the files, apache is there for the web access to the SVN. |
| 12:23.16 | Roartindon | ckknight: As it's dependent on the tag data, the type returned and the tag. not just a single thing |
| 12:23.17 | Trancer | ah hm |
| 12:23.41 | mitch0 | so why isn't CIA running in the bg? |
| 12:23.50 | Mikk | because it is |
| 12:23.58 | clad|away | mitch0: like mikk said, its spawned by the hook process, but the shell won't quit until the children return |
| 12:24.06 | clad|away | its not a daemon, its a python script that gets run on post-commit |
| 12:24.12 | clad|away | just emails cia |
| 12:24.15 | mitch0 | but it can be solved, I think |
| 12:24.19 | snirks | snort in ips mode |
| 12:24.22 | clad|away | i suspect it could, yes. |
| 12:24.24 | Mikk | yeah it can be properly daemonized |
| 12:24.24 | mitch0 | just fork() within the python script |
| 12:24.32 | mitch0 | need a code sample? |
| 12:24.33 | Mikk | something like that yeah |
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| 12:24.35 | Roartindon | ckknight: DogTag only ever handles the tags inside DogTag-1.0.. it's an invariant set, so your only lookup is the tag text |
| 12:24.40 | kontagious | how do i get the transform spell |
| 12:24.48 | Trancer | fork might get troublesome with the mailer though |
| 12:24.48 | clad|away | files.wowace.com is serving double the load it normally does |
| 12:24.56 | snirks | renice |
| 12:24.59 | mitch0 | why? |
| 12:25.06 | clad|away | consistently. |
| 12:25.15 | clad|away | pumping almost 6.0 Mbyte/s |
| 12:25.16 | Trancer | depends on when it invokes the mailer and whether it picks up the privileges of the forked user |
| 12:25.19 | Trancer | clad|away: o_O |
| 12:25.26 | Roartindon | ckknight: if I provided a TagCompiler:Evaluate(), it would have to be: TagCompiler:Evaluate(tagDataSet, returnType, tag, tagData) |
| 12:25.27 | Trancer | clad|away: somebody making a mirror? |
| 12:25.34 | clad|away | yep |
| 12:25.40 | clad|away | and i dont have access to ban them |
| 12:25.45 | Trancer | ... |
| 12:25.51 | clad|away | pastamancer: Kaelten: ping |
| 12:25.55 | clad|away | someone ddos them =) |
| 12:26.00 | clad|away | their ip address is ugly |
| 12:26.02 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 12:26.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 12:26.04 | Roartindon | ckknight: That is either 3 lookups, or creating a a key such as lookup = tostring(tagDataSet)..returnType..tag, which is not particularly nice if you're doing it tens of thousands of times a second |
| 12:26.07 | clad|away | 209.9.227.69 |
| 12:26.11 | Trancer | perhaps an idea to use mod_throttle or a spinoff |
| 12:26.26 | Mikk | no worky on lighttpd |
| 12:26.28 | Moltarain | just send a arp hack to the first router before them, should take them a while to figure out what happend |
| 12:26.35 | Trancer | hmm.. PTP clad|away |
| 12:26.40 | Trancer | let me contact them, I know ehm |
| 12:26.45 | Mikk | Moltarain: err.. can't arp across the internet |
| 12:26.46 | clad|away | it looks like its downloading everything |
| 12:26.50 | clad|away | not just latest |
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| 12:26.57 | mitch0 | here's a sniplet from another python code for detaching properly: http://ace.pastey.net/70204 |
| 12:27.16 | Mikk | mitch0: cheers |
| 12:27.43 | Mikk | python isn't my forte :> |
| 12:27.46 | Moltarain | mikk well not if you go using the normal routes no ,) |
| 12:27.49 | Trancer | 14:27:20 :::: idle : 21 days 15 hours 36 mins 55 secs signon: Sun Jun 10 22:50:25 2007 |
| 12:27.52 | mitch0 | the pidfile thing is not necessary of course, and the last 2 lines should start the actual CIA thing |
| 12:27.54 | Trancer | guess my PTP contact is not there >< |
| 12:28.05 | clad|away | Trancer: Whats PTP? |
| 12:28.25 | Trancer | ptp = pulltheplug |
| 12:28.32 | Trancer | that's the netblock the mirrorguy is on |
| 12:28.34 | Mikk | mitch0: aye i know daemonizing from C well enough. just a bit nub on python syntax and libs =) |
| 12:28.39 | clad|away | oh okay, gotcha |
| 12:28.51 | clad|away | jesus.. 10.0 Mbyte/s |
| 12:28.57 | Roartindon | ckknight_: D'oh.. you must have missed all my text |
| 12:29.08 | Trancer | someone should put a throttle on it |
| 12:29.10 | clad|away | he was stuck on a batch of ClearFont downloads |
| 12:29.14 | clad|away | Trancer: no one can, |
| 12:29.14 | Punkie` | i remember like a year and a half ago I almost downloaded the whole SVN by mistake :( |
| 12:29.16 | mitch0 | mikk: and probly stdin/stdout/stderr shouldn't be closed right away from the child process, that depends on how CIA actually works |
| 12:29.18 | clad|away | i dont have root on this server anymore. |
| 12:29.21 | Roartindon | ckknight_: On the phone atm, will paste my text from before |
| 12:29.30 | Trancer | clad|away: no I mean in general |
| 12:29.31 | clad|away | Punkie`: That wasn't so bad once we moved off shared hosting |
| 12:29.34 | Mikk | mitch0: aye, will prolly have to spool up stdin |
| 12:29.37 | clad|away | Trancer: aye, they should |
| 12:29.41 | Mikk | mitch0: don't suppose you could hack that up for me? =) |
| 12:29.55 | Moltarain | maybe s1 is making a backup at the server. that ip is in their own range. |
| 12:29.58 | mitch0 | where can I see the code? |
| 12:30.01 | clad|away | the whole svn used to be hosted on my cheap ass shared hosting account.. that's why we had to invent files in the first place. |
| 12:30.04 | Trancer | http://209.9.227.69/ |
| 12:30.11 | Mikk | mitch0: you can't atm. in the example, i meant =) |
| 12:30.14 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r42490 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell.lua: |
| 12:30.15 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 12:30.15 | CIA-22 | - set the dbversion after import default db |
| 12:30.26 | Punkie` | Trancer: lol |
| 12:30.35 | Trancer | time for breakfast |
| 12:30.45 | mitch0 | mikk: ah. then define "spool up". I don't think I fully understand what you mean there |
| 12:31.22 | clad|away | Trancer: : Wow.. he's not even pretending :P |
| 12:31.23 | mitch0 | mikk: it would help a bit if I could get a glimpse on the actual code :) |
| 12:31.47 | Mikk | mitch0: just take all of stdin and chuck it in a string. and i'd give you the code if i had it, but pasta and kaelten are the only ones with access atm... you could ofc talk to them later too without having me as a go-between |
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| 12:32.48 | mitch0 | mikk: but if CIA right now does that already, then nothing else needs to be done, just remove the closing of stdin/stdout. sec, I'll modify pasty |
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| 12:33.50 | Mikk | mitch0: Hrm, you need to detach stdin/stdout to properly daemonize, no? |
| 12:34.08 | Mikk | then again if they spool it up reasonably quickly before starting to talk to the world, that's enough |
| 12:34.22 | mitch0 | hm. |
| 12:34.35 | clad|away | kaelten restarted lighty 20 hours ago.. wonder what he changed. |
| 12:35.34 | Morghus | When I write /kci I don't get up any options for Fence, only auctionspy, profile, standby, about. Is that intended? |
| 12:44.15 | Mikk | another one of the californians? |
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| 12:44.16 | clad|away | yes |
| 12:44.16 | clad|away | he just moved to CA |
| 12:44.16 | clad|away | used to be on the right coast, more or less |
| 12:44.16 | Mikk | kk. not going to be awake for at least an hour then |
| 12:44.16 | Mikk | ~seen kaelten |
| 12:44.51 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 26m 17s) #wowace (7h 26m 17s). Has said a total of 106 messages. Is idling for 4h 53m 3s, last said: 'anywho going to bed'. |
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| 12:44.51 | clad|away | yeah i can call/text him, but as long as its not severely hampering anyone's productivity, i'd rather now. |
| 12:44.51 | clad|away | not |
| 12:44.52 | clad|away | hrm |
| 12:44.52 | ravagernl | you know surfacecontrol needs an update, cowtips health and powerbar arent being changed by it :) |
| 12:44.53 | clad|away | i should work on luabot some more.. need to add channel throttling |
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| 12:44.53 | cladbot | Douchebag |
| 12:44.53 | Mikk | lies |
| 12:44.53 | Mikk | lua> os.exit(0) |
| 12:44.53 | cladbot | Mikk: [string "os.exit(0)"]:1: attempt to call field 'exit' (a nil value) |
| 12:44.53 | clad|away | lua> os |
| 12:44.53 | cladbot | clad|away: { ["clock"] = function: 0x806cd40, ["time"] = function: 0x806cf60 } (#1) |
| 12:44.53 | Mikk | ooooh nice dump |
| 12:44.53 | clad|away | its cide's |
| 12:44.53 | clad|away | basic serializer.. but numbers each table for self reference |
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| 12:44.53 | Mikk | bastard. i was just about to make a selfrecursing table. |
| 12:44.53 | steevdave | hey all, is there a way to tell if i am loading any unnecessary libs? |
| 12:44.53 | Mikk | not really |
| 12:44.53 | snirks | rap, rofl |
| 12:44.53 | snirks | what a genre |
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| 12:44.53 | Mikk | steevdave: you can load up ACP and see if there's Load-on-Demand libs that haven't been loaded yet... but you can't tell for sure that they're not going to BE loaded later on |
| 12:45.04 | steevdave | ACP? |
| 12:45.04 | Mikk | that's kinda the whole idea behind load-on-demand |
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| 12:45.04 | Mikk | ACP is a spinoff of rMCP which is a spinoff of MCP. The whole idea is to be able to enable and disable addons from inside the game. And apply profiles |
| 12:45.07 | steevdave | ahh |
| 12:45.16 | pb_ee1 | purl, why do you say that? |
| 12:45.23 | pb_ee1 | (will he answer? :-P) |
| 12:45.27 | Mikk | shit, only 5h since he went to bed. not going to be showing up any time soon then :P |
| 12:45.29 | pb_ee1 | (seems not. boo.) |
| 12:45.42 | clad|away | ~seen pastamancer |
| 12:45.43 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'and it's more efficient to deal with an array of char than creating a ton of strings'. |
| 12:45.43 | Mikk | pb_ee1: i queried for that about 3 minutes ago. purl is lagged to hell n back |
| 12:45.49 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: rofl |
| 12:45.53 | clad|away | hrm |
| 12:45.57 | pb_ee1 | he's a bit late indeed ^_^ |
| 12:45.57 | steevdave | well i know i update *with* externals |
| 12:46.07 | pb_ee1 | ? |
| 12:46.15 | steevdave | so im kinda wondering if i should ditch the standalone versions i have downloaded |
| 12:46.34 | Mikk | steevdave: you should keep only standalone and run without externals =) |
| 12:46.44 | steevdave | or that |
| 12:46.48 | Mikk | makes the game load faster |
| 12:46.59 | Mikk | but if you wnat to go with externals, you can prolly nuke all your standalone libs |
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| 12:47.11 | steevdave | well i'd rather it the other way - thats how i do it at work |
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| 12:47.21 | steevdave | but its a tad easier at work |
| 12:47.29 | steevdave | since i don't use quite so many |
| 12:48.01 | Mikk | just start moving folders out and see if something breaks tbh =) |
| 12:48.30 | steevdave | er wait |
| 12:48.42 | steevdave | as in i should have main lib directories |
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| 12:48.53 | steevdave | and not anything inside addon/libs |
| 12:49.12 | steevdave | just so we are on the same page :) (its early and i haven't slept ;) ) |
| 12:49.23 | Mikk | haha |
| 12:49.35 | steevdave | must get to 70 on my shaman! |
| 12:49.42 | steevdave | though i did run karazhan last night on my rogue |
| 12:49.46 | steevdave | we downed maiden |
| 12:49.50 | steevdave | that was a pain and a half |
| 12:49.54 | steevdave | 8 wipes |
| 12:50.02 | Mikk | she sucks until healers get cleansing and preemptive healing right |
| 12:50.09 | Gngsk | grats, I just wiped 8 times and didn't down her :p |
| 12:50.13 | Mikk | it's a healer fight that one |
| 12:50.19 | steevdave | the paladin was having lag issues |
| 12:50.25 | Mikk | ow :> |
| 12:50.28 | Gngsk | we took a pally who had never done it before |
| 12:50.34 | Mikk | well, that's error #1 there tbh |
| 12:50.41 | Mikk | priests are better cleansers these days |
| 12:50.49 | steevdave | actually |
| 12:50.53 | Dynom | how is that Mikk ? |
| 12:50.59 | steevdave | the paladin that we have is amazing |
| 12:51.00 | Mikk | they have more cleanses in their mana pool than a pally, since a pally usually has less mana |
| 12:51.08 | Mikk | and pallys have more healing in their mana pool |
| 12:51.15 | clad|away | yep |
| 12:51.17 | steevdave | we "borrowed" 2 players from another guild - an OT and a pally |
| 12:51.24 | Dynom | but they regen a lot faster also :-] |
| 12:51.32 | Mikk | pally? regen? o.O |
| 12:51.47 | Dynom | yeh |
| 12:51.57 | steevdave | get 2 shaman in there and the ground totems negate any form of holy fire from her |
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| 12:52.35 | Dynom | don't you get like a refund on a crit heal and such ? |
| 12:52.37 | Mikk | tbh if a pally is ever out of the 5s rule he's not playing right :> |
| 12:52.49 | Garns | their pot cd being up again when they havent used all of that mana isn't what I would call regen |
| 12:53.06 | Mikk | pallies USED to get 100% mana back from crit heals (ie they were free).. it was recently changed to only 50% back |
| 12:53.07 | steevdave | hah |
| 12:53.16 | Dynom | thought it was 75% |
| 12:53.20 | Dynom | currently |
| 12:53.23 | Hjalte | It is 60% |
| 12:53.25 | Mikk | lol |
| 12:53.27 | Dynom | rofl.. |
| 12:53.33 | steevdave | 80% of all statistics are made up on the spot! |
| 12:53.42 | Dynom | steevdave: right you are |
| 12:53.50 | Hjalte | They changed it to 50%, as Mikk says, but then later changed it to 60%. |
| 12:53.52 | Trancer | purl is a bit lagged |
| 12:53.55 | steevdave | screenshot or it didn't happen! |
| 12:53.56 | Mikk | if you have one foot in a pot of boiling water, and the other foot in an ice bucket, on an average, you're pretty comfy |
| 12:54.04 | mitch0 | mikk: I just tested with a small example and it seems that the shell doesn't really care if you close stdin or not |
| 12:54.23 | mitch0 | mikk: in other words, prepending that simple fork to CIA should work just fine |
| 12:54.42 | Mikk | mitch0: kewl, cheers! .. and yeah it could just be that out/err needs to be nuked |
| 12:54.54 | mitch0 | not even that, really |
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| 12:55.26 | mitch0 | it's only problematic if you run those stuff from an interactive shell, as they'd throw output at you when you don't expect it :) |
| 12:55.47 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r42491 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (4 files): |
| 12:55.47 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:55.47 | CIA-22 | - Split the hooks and the API call into a separate file and all the Atlas specific functions into another file. This will make the main file easier to clean up. |
| 12:55.51 | Mikk | or on the login prompt after you log out :> |
| 12:56.25 | Mikk | yer, could just be a security precaution tbh... but i've always nuked my streams on daemonize like i was taught to long ago. never really questioned why =) |
| 12:56.41 | mitch0 | mikk: it's a security measure, yes |
| 12:56.57 | mitch0 | also, the proper way it to also detach from the controlling terminal |
| 12:57.18 | mitch0 | but we really don't need to be so pedantic here :) |
| 12:57.49 | Mikk | nah, we're not going to get ctrl+c signals passed down from our parent daemon :> |
| 12:58.15 | mitch0 | actually, SIG_INT should be caught as well :) |
| 12:58.49 | mitch0 | oh well, the joys of writing low level server code :) was a long long time ago, probly in a different galaxy :) |
| 12:59.01 | Dionne | "Omen: Option hide is disabled" - any ideas how to "activate" it? :D |
| 12:59.59 | mitch0 | oh, speaking of omen, would it be possible introduce a switch that would handle me as solo even if I have a pet out? |
| 13:00.21 | Trancer | for the warnings? |
| 13:00.26 | Trancer | antiarc was looking into it |
| 13:00.36 | mitch0 | for everything actually. it shouldn't activate itself |
| 13:00.56 | mitch0 | my WE is not much of a tank anyway ;) |
| 13:01.31 | Roartindon | hmm.. FixCasing is causing entire WoW to stall in what seems like an infinite loop with some valid tags |
| 13:01.33 | cryogen | mitch0: id like that too :) |
| 13:01.42 | cryogen | so annoying to have omen pop up when i use shadowfiend |
| 13:01.42 | steevdave | i had to fake a disconnect earlier |
| 13:01.53 | cryogen | it even reappears after ive hidden it once |
| 13:01.57 | cryogen | next time i summon it |
| 13:02.02 | steevdave | was "stuck" in ZF with 2 hunters |
| 13:02.17 | mitch0 | mikk: but if you really want to read in stdin first in a bunch, just do: input = sys.stdin.read() |
| 13:02.21 | steevdave | the kind that give hunters a bad name |
| 13:02.38 | Dionne | huntards? |
| 13:02.42 | steevdave | yes |
| 13:02.49 | steevdave | what are the odds of getting in a group with *2* |
| 13:02.57 | steevdave | well, i know, about 99% |
| 13:02.59 | steevdave | but still |
| 13:03.02 | Dionne | do they happen to speak bad english too? :D |
| 13:03.05 | steevdave | i was hoping *1* would be smart |
| 13:03.07 | steevdave | no, sadly |
| 13:03.27 | steevdave | one of em aggroed the basilisk boss before we were ready |
| 13:03.33 | mitch0 | steev: as a rule of thunb, I try to avoid hunters. I'd run screaming from a group that has 2 :) |
| 13:03.35 | steevdave | right after i said don't get close to the cave |
| 13:03.49 | steevdave | (i am resto specced shaman) |
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| 13:04.10 | steevdave | so after that fight, i have to regen mana |
| 13:04.18 | Dionne | Yesterday, an ele shaman backed up (?) on a pull and aggroed the pack of mobs behind me... and it reminded me of the classical hunter mistake. |
| 13:04.23 | steevdave | so im drinking, and they start fighting the scarabs back by the tablets |
| 13:04.40 | steevdave | why is a ele shaman backing up? |
| 13:04.50 | Dionne | thats the question of the... year. |
| 13:04.59 | mitch0 | for teh max range! |
| 13:05.04 | steevdave | so i get in there, im decursive like crazy (still trying to figure out how the f to use it) |
| 13:05.14 | steevdave | supposedly there are boxes i can just click to remove whatever |
| 13:05.18 | steevdave | but i haven't found em |
| 13:05.18 | mitch0 | (I'd probly back up too, but that's becouse I played a mage since release :) |
| 13:05.33 | steevdave | anyways, so after THAT fight |
| 13:05.39 | steevdave | im drinking again |
| 13:05.41 | Dionne | no boxes I think. It just shows you who has what... you gotta click manually on the unitframes... or use Fx |
| 13:05.47 | steevdave | and the *40* paladin who is utterly useless |
| 13:05.57 | mitch0 | decursive has small boxes |
| 13:06.00 | mitch0 | to click on |
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| 13:06.03 | Dionne | I'm a lock and I didn't back up :O |
| 13:06.04 | mitch0 | it's cool |
| 13:06.05 | steevdave | won't attack anything and his heals... well, i have nfi wtf his heals are for |
| 13:06.15 | steevdave | because i didn't see them |
| 13:06.19 | Dionne | he was there to buff the group! :O |
| 13:06.28 | steevdave | he hops on his horse and starts riding towards the witch doctor |
| 13:06.31 | steevdave | pulling that other room |
| 13:06.37 | steevdave | since hes level 40 and all |
| 13:07.02 | steevdave | so after that fight in which, he uses his friggin AOE which aggros the scarabs again |
| 13:07.06 | steevdave | i have to drink yet again |
| 13:07.17 | steevdave | the OTHER huntard heads in and starts attacking the witch doctor |
| 13:07.25 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 13:07.30 | steevdave | im like, wtf? |
| 13:07.38 | steevdave | so then i ask |
| 13:07.47 | ravagernl | HEEEEL MEEEEEE |
| 13:07.48 | steevdave | who aggroed the witch doctor anyways when we weren't ready for it |
| 13:07.58 | steevdave | and the paladin says - whatever the huntards name was |
| 13:08.03 | ravagernl | i bet they said that |
| 13:08.06 | steevdave | the huntard says "thanks for ratting me out" |
| 13:08.13 | mitch0 | haha |
| 13:08.15 | steevdave | and i say, *log out* |
| 13:08.26 | Uhuru | someone can advice me an add on to show my incoming heals on my targets ? |
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| 13:08.51 | steevdave | i was done |
| 13:08.52 | Health | ratting? |
| 13:09.00 | steevdave | snitching, telling on |
| 13:09.06 | Health | nice |
| 13:09.15 | steevdave | iow, totally unwilling to own up |
| 13:09.23 | steevdave | in true huntard fashion |
| 13:09.36 | mitch0 | I like hunters for their multishot mostly |
| 13:09.46 | steevdave | yes |
| 13:09.49 | steevdave | those are awesome |
| 13:09.52 | Gngsk | Uhuru, pitbull estimated heals? |
| 13:09.54 | mitch0 | cc heaven :) |
| 13:09.55 | Dionne | oh, the one-button-to-break-all-CC? |
| 13:10.08 | steevdave | even better when they claim they aren't using it |
| 13:10.15 | *** part/#wowace themo321 (n=moritz@p5088A286.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:10.18 | mitch0 | yeah, I like that too :) |
| 13:10.21 | steevdave | yet mysteriously the shackle and sap both break at the same time |
| 13:10.33 | mitch0 | and I see flying bullets everywhere :) |
| 13:10.39 | steevdave | and they both aggro the hunter |
| 13:10.46 | Dionne | on my first domo fight I didn't know the adds were being sheeped, and I broke CC like 10 times till we wiped o_O |
| 13:10.59 | steevdave | domo? |
| 13:11.06 | mitch0 | majordomo executus |
| 13:11.18 | clad|away | Dionne: Haha |
| 13:11.19 | Dionne | I didn't know what was happening at all actually. All I saw was one big mob and 8 smaller ones. |
| 13:11.19 | steevdave | i've only done maiden |
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| 13:11.30 | deltron | lol |
| 13:11.38 | Gngsk | heh, one of the palleis in my old guild used a mechanical chicken during domo and it wiped us breaking sheep |
| 13:11.44 | steevdave | haha |
| 13:11.59 | steevdave | the other day i was helping my buddy and his gf in gnomer |
| 13:12.05 | steevdave | i whipped out the cinder elemental |
| 13:12.06 | mitch0 | steev: domo is an MC boss |
| 13:12.14 | Health | how interesting |
| 13:12.14 | steevdave | and he tore off in some direction that i have nfi about |
| 13:12.29 | Health | please tell us more about the direction |
| 13:12.29 | Dionne | Majordomo Executus, like the 8th or 9th boss in Molten Core, old lvl60 raid instance. |
| 13:12.35 | steevdave | mitch0: ahh, i've never done MC - well, I've done it once, but only to about the 2nd boss, maybe it was first |
| 13:12.41 | Health | was it really that strange? nfi |
| 13:12.47 | steevdave | yes it was |
| 13:12.58 | steevdave | we were in the middle of the tunnel headed to thermaplug |
| 13:13.07 | steevdave | and he tore off back behind us |
| 13:13.09 | ravagernl | wobin_: splut??? |
| 13:13.10 | Health | Mmm. Butt Plug. |
| 13:13.11 | deltron | I haven't been to MC in ages |
| 13:13.25 | steevdave | rather than stand right next to me |
| 13:13.30 | steevdave | and in blizz's wisdom |
| 13:13.37 | steevdave | theres no control of him whatsoever |
| 13:13.41 | steevdave | can't even dismiss him |
| 13:13.59 | Health | He was looking for he missing butt plugg. |
| 13:14.08 | steevdave | so we killed about 3 more groups |
| 13:14.25 | steevdave | and then this huge gaggle of stuff comes and monkey stomps us |
| 13:14.26 | *** join/#wowace [gk]Hotphoenix (n=blah@87.112.52.209) |
| 13:14.56 | Dionne | classical hunter mistake too... jump between slopes without dismissing pet, and having pet taking the long way around, then bringing like 300 mobs hah |
| 13:15.02 | Dionne | I did that on UBRS >_< |
| 13:15.22 | steevdave | i thought about doing the quest with my rogue |
| 13:15.33 | steevdave | and letting the cinder guy lose during like maiden or something |
| 13:15.39 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 13:15.39 | steevdave | but based on current experience |
| 13:15.41 | steevdave | no way |
| 13:15.50 | steevdave | he'd probably tear off into the servant quarters |
| 13:16.03 | Dionne | and bring unpleasant company? :P |
| 13:16.04 | Health | No way! Cool |
| 13:16.17 | Health | There are hot chicks in the servant quaters. |
| 13:16.49 | steevdave | annoying that the medalion and insignia don't work against her stun |
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| 13:17.25 | steevdave | re-entered and then the hunter who had feigned stood up |
| 13:17.32 | steevdave | and re-aggroed her and she came downstairs |
| 13:17.47 | steevdave | and right as i was leaping out to the exit |
| 13:17.49 | steevdave | stunned |
| 13:17.58 | Health | No way, that's unlucky |
| 13:18.04 | steevdave | i died in the mist |
| 13:18.13 | Health | Sad story |
| 13:18.27 | steevdave | and they made me ghost walk! |
| 13:18.33 | steevdave | bastards |
| 13:18.48 | vhaarr | takes at least .. 7 seconds to run from that GY >< |
| 13:18.51 | kenlyric | yes, the ungodly walk back from karazhan graveyard... |
| 13:18.57 | steevdave | exactly! |
| 13:19.10 | steevdave | and 10 to rez! |
| 13:19.22 | Dionne | another hunter one... we invite a new hunter member to our kara raid... we tell him to use misdirection when pulling boss... he misdirects to the healer... I seriously have no clue what was going on his mind to do such a thing. |
| 13:19.31 | steevdave | ROFL |
| 13:19.31 | deltron | lol |
| 13:19.34 | vhaarr | haha |
| 13:19.39 | Dionne | next time he misdirects to himself. |
| 13:19.46 | Dionne | third time he gets it right. |
| 13:19.54 | mitch0 | dionne: probly just random |
| 13:20.02 | steevdave | wow |
| 13:20.09 | steevdave | i haven't laughed that hard in a while |
| 13:20.18 | kenlyric | what would you guys say is the worst death run in WoW? |
| 13:20.31 | ilifin | AQ40 pre-teleport |
| 13:20.34 | vhaarr | yes |
| 13:20.36 | vhaarr | god yes |
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| 13:20.40 | kenlyric | no, graveyard to entrance. |
| 13:20.42 | vhaarr | c'thun |
| 13:20.42 | Health | steevdave: You seem to be the kind if a guy without too many friends |
| 13:20.42 | steevdave | never did aq40 :( |
| 13:20.43 | vhaarr | zzzzz |
| 13:20.46 | ilifin | ooh to entrance |
| 13:20.55 | ilifin | blade's edge mountains |
| 13:20.58 | ilifin | before they added teh graveyard |
| 13:20.58 | steevdave | eh? |
| 13:21.14 | ilifin | die and run for 15 mins to corpse |
| 13:21.15 | ilifin | >_> |
| 13:21.16 | steevdave | my shaman isn't in the same guild as my rogue, once i get to 70 he will |
| 13:21.18 | vhaarr | those were happy days, when you were at c'thun and not everyone had a mount |
| 13:21.21 | Dionne | ya... there's like one GY for the entire map, and its on the middle... you're on a corner of the map and died? oo bad luck 10min walk for you! |
| 13:22.35 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-136-88.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 13:22.41 | ilifin | but worst instane run.. |
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| 13:22.46 | Dionne | So, anyone has an idea how to enable the "hide" feature of Omen's embedded FuBarPlugin? |
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| 13:23.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 13:23.10 | mitch0 | yesterday a huntard killed me while I was attempting the quest at the altar of shadows. I died but I remained "possessed" or whatever, so I couldn't res :( had to relog. then I wanted to camp him for it, but after the first kill the neighbour kid came over and shat on our terrace, had to leave the comp... :( |
| 13:23.41 | steevdave | uh |
| 13:24.59 | mitch0 | um. I should look into this Dewdrop/AceOptionTable/AceDB stuff. users seem to like nice menus and stuff |
| 13:25.26 | steevdave | the new strat live is rather annoying since the rat trap seems to reset immediately |
| 13:25.34 | *** join/#wowace zenthos (i=ben@nat/ibm/x-02c3c2d88310c2b2) |
| 13:25.44 | Wobin_ | hm, anyone with a hunter that has a pet with cower? |
| 13:28.08 | steevdave | mitch0: i prefer an addon that works, rather than having to search out wtf an option even does :) |
| 13:28.51 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc (n=Antiarc@ip68-2-215-84.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 13:28.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 13:29.23 | mitch0 | steev: hm? |
| 13:29.36 | mitch0 | steev: ah. I see |
| 13:29.56 | mitch0 | steev: well, it works of course, but some users like it this way, some that way. the option should be there |
| 13:30.06 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r42492 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: Add zhCN localization InstanceNotes |
| 13:30.12 | mitch0 | and it's easier for them to click on menu things then figure out slashcmds |
| 13:30.24 | mitch0 | at least that's what I gather |
| 13:33.51 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc2-cove7-0-0-cust20.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:34.36 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.44.178) |
| 13:35.42 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42493 10RangeDisplay/: RangeCheck: renaming, 'cos some ppl say it's confusing like this |
| 13:35.48 | jwwpua_ | is the regular WAU disabled? |
| 13:35.52 | striper | hmmm... my ace updater doesn't give me a list of addons, neither installed nor uninstalled ones... just an empty window after the start... WTF? |
| 13:35.58 | Mikk | jwwpua_: no |
| 13:36.14 | clad|away | the webserver is getting pounded right now, I suspect thats the major problem you're encountering. |
| 13:36.20 | jwwpua_ | aight |
| 13:36.26 | Chompers | who's pounding it? |
| 13:36.28 | striper | ~ic |
| 13:36.29 | purl | i guess ic is a French Guy. He teaches me lots of silly things. It's rumoured that he's lord and master of the universe, so you'd better not mess with him, or the whole planet may just blink out of existance. :) or integrated circuit |
| 13:36.46 | |Kev| | striper: which updater? |
| 13:36.57 | |Kev| | also: isn't the server having tremendous trouble atm? |
| 13:36.58 | striper | WAU 1.9.18.412 |
| 13:37.00 | Dionne | Wobin_: Cower is so useless on hunter pets |
| 13:37.13 | sbu | clad|away: server seems to be okay again - but wau xml file is empty |
| 13:37.32 | clad|away | hrm |
| 13:37.35 | sbu | http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml |
| 13:39.00 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (n=nuoHep@outer.test.e-larek.ru) |
| 13:39.10 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42494 10RangeDisplay/ (6 files): RangeDisplay: still renaming |
| 13:39.57 | Wobin_ | Dionne: Pretty useful if they're not tanking pets |
| 13:40.00 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42495 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 13:40.00 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:40.00 | CIA-22 | - Translated "Seethe" spell to spanish |
| 13:41.04 | striper | hmmm... he is downloading 63k at the beginning... but nothing happens afterwards |
| 13:41.58 | striper | if the xml is empty... what is he downloading? |
| 13:42.41 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42496 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 13:42.41 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 13:42.41 | CIA-22 | - Changed the TagError/TagDebug to !TagError/!TagDebug. Previously, the casing prevented them from being used accidentally in tag expressions. Now with case insensitive tagData, they needed extra differentiation. |
| 13:43.01 | Stan__ | [15:37:30] <sbu> http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml <- error: missing root element |
| 13:43.30 | sbu | its missing _everything_ since its empty :p |
| 13:43.37 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42497 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: |
| 13:43.37 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 13:43.37 | CIA-22 | - Changed TagError/TagDebug to !TagError/!TagDebug |
| 13:43.59 | Stan__ | sbu: tell opera :P |
| 13:44.09 | sbu | opera: its empty! |
| 13:44.21 | Stan__ | :P |
| 13:44.24 | sbu | nvm - server is ~slow again |
| 13:44.37 | cryogen | quick random non ace related question: 60->70 as a mage, easier as frost or fire? |
| 13:45.15 | abbat_w | àêùûå |
| 13:45.17 | abbat_w | frost |
| 13:45.31 | clad|away | sbu: Server is pumping between 4Mbyte/s and 10Mbyte/s consistently |
| 13:45.43 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 13:46.08 | sbu | mh so if we ddos that guy to slow him down - we can download again, right? :p |
| 13:46.08 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp-groundworks15.public.dc.umich.edu) |
| 13:46.21 | Kaelten | :s |
| 13:47.02 | clad|away | Kaelten: zomg fix him pls. |
| 13:47.02 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z (n=nn@d40ae5fb.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 13:47.16 | Kaelten | clad|away: ? |
| 13:47.21 | clad|away | the guy who's mirroring. |
| 13:47.30 | clad|away | killing the server |
| 13:47.33 | Kaelten | ... |
| 13:47.46 | clad|away | hehe i pinged you earlier re: this |
| 13:47.59 | Kaelten | didn't get it just woke up :) |
| 13:48.04 | Kaelten | err well just got out of the shower |
| 13:48.06 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 13:48.11 | Kaelten | got your computer back yet? |
| 13:48.18 | clad|away | no |
| 13:48.30 | clad|away | 209.9.227.69 |
| 13:48.39 | Trancer | ~seen *@209.9.227.69 |
| 13:48.42 | purl | Trancer: i haven't seen '*@209.9.227.69' |
| 13:48.42 | Kaelten | thats the server |
| 13:48.42 | clad|away | mirroring the whole downloads page |
| 13:48.53 | clad|away | that's the server? |
| 13:49.03 | Kaelten | squid |
| 13:49.14 | clad|away | oh |
| 13:49.15 | clad|away | well then |
| 13:49.24 | clad|away | then lighty lies to me =) |
| 13:49.25 | Trancer | someone is using the squid heavily :-) |
| 13:49.32 | clad|away | could be something entirely different then :P |
| 13:49.37 | clad|away | but the server is dying a slow death =) |
| 13:49.45 | Kaelten | yep lighty is a lying bastard in our case |
| 13:49.53 | striper | do you guys need more server power? |
| 13:49.59 | striper | just asking... :) |
| 13:50.31 | Punkie` | striper: can you ever have enough?! ;) |
| 13:50.55 | striper | i _could_ spare some gigs... my machine sits behind two gig lines |
| 13:51.10 | striper | with unlimited traffic :) |
| 13:51.20 | Trancer | your machine will be slashed though ;-) |
| 13:51.31 | Trancer | unless you got some quad core and a truckload of memory |
| 13:51.51 | striper | it's a 2 cpu XEON something w/ 4 GB ram |
| 13:51.59 | striper | it really should do it... |
| 13:52.10 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42498 10RangeDisplay/ (4 files): RangeDisplay: finished renaming |
| 13:52.17 | Trancer | should be fine ;p |
| 13:52.29 | Trancer | not ever going to mirror a popular wowmovie/patch again, urgh |
| 13:52.35 | phyber | I've got a similar machine to that sat at home, but it's behind ADSL and turned off :P |
| 13:52.44 | striper | i don't want to offer my 1337 clan server - i'm not that kinda kiddie :) |
| 13:52.46 | *** join/#wowace moonsorrow (n=moonsorr@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-070.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 13:53.00 | Trancer | \o/ etc. :p |
| 13:53.15 | Trancer | wonder how many VPS offers wowace received |
| 13:53.16 | mitch0 | phyber: it's also in concrete casing with lead and steel reinforcements. and no power. right? :) secure computing ftw |
| 13:53.25 | Trancer | "I have a VPS, I can host stuff for you, kk" |
| 13:53.49 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.50 | steevdave | i could offer hosting for a server but thats about it |
| 13:53.50 | phyber | mitch0: it has a lockable case with a key that's small and hard to find when it's needed! |
| 13:53.54 | steevdave | sitting on a fiber connection |
| 13:53.55 | Trancer | Kaelten: hehe |
| 13:54.09 | Trancer | oh. cogentco |
| 13:54.13 | striper | phyber: i have many of these too :) |
| 13:54.16 | mitch0 | antiarc: you around? |
| 13:54.17 | Trancer | nice route from here (xs4all.nl) |
| 13:54.28 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42499 10Assessment/ (AssessmentTag.lua CoreModules/DisplaySets.lua): |
| 13:54.28 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 13:54.29 | CIA-22 | - Changed TagDebug/TagError to !TagDebug/!TagError |
| 13:54.29 | CIA-22 | - Removed FixedCasing for the moment, as it's modifying some stuff it's not |
| 13:54.29 | CIA-22 | meant to, which prevents users from entering required information. It's also |
| 13:54.29 | CIA-22 | causing an infinite loop with some bad data, instead of an error message |
| 13:54.55 | Chompers | what's a vps? |
| 13:55.01 | steevdave | virtual private server |
| 13:55.02 | Chompers | virtual private server? |
| 13:55.03 | Chompers | oh |
| 13:55.08 | steevdave | or public, dunno, whatever |
| 13:55.29 | Chompers | that's where you emulate a server on a machine, isn't it? |
| 13:55.30 | Trancer | it's what all the leet botnet kiddies use nowadays |
| 13:55.33 | Trancer | because they can CC it |
| 13:55.38 | |Kev| | I have a VPS |
| 13:55.41 | Trancer | yeah Chompers |
| 13:55.42 | |Kev| | I can't host wowace :p |
| 13:55.45 | Trancer | |Kev|: you botnet kid! |
| 13:55.59 | mitch0 | "CC it"? what's that? |
| 13:56.01 | |Kev| | I'd rather have a colo, but are you about to pay for it Lu? :) |
| 13:56.06 | Trancer | mitch0: credit card |
| 13:56.12 | Kaelten | hrm restarting squid fixed it |
| 13:56.16 | Trancer | |Kev|: just slap Mick :p |
| 13:56.22 | |Kev| | heh |
| 13:56.24 | striper | what's the traffic on files.wowace.com a day? |
| 13:56.25 | steevdave | check squid's logs |
| 13:56.35 | mitch0 | I fail to see the connection with CC and leet kiddies |
| 13:56.53 | steevdave | mitch0, so do most - but the leet kiddies make the connection |
| 13:57.13 | mitch0 | oookey, whatever :) |
| 13:57.14 | Trancer | mitch0: the leet kiddies often use fake / stolen credit cards to buy VPS solutions |
| 13:57.15 | steevdave | meaning they use other people's credit cards to pay for their connections |
| 13:57.26 | mitch0 | aha |
| 13:57.33 | |Kev| | and so enters my job :) |
| 13:57.36 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 13:57.39 | Trancer | mitch0: after which they card a bunch of cool .net/com/org hosts and hook them up |
| 13:58.09 | Kaelten | striper: this might give you an idea |
| 13:58.10 | mitch0 | I'm getting lost on slang here, so don't bother :) |
| 13:58.13 | *** join/#wowace Srosh (n=Srosh@c210073.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 13:58.14 | Kaelten | Uptime7 min 19 s |
| 13:58.15 | Kaelten | Started at2007-07-02 09:50:15 |
| 13:58.17 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 13:58.18 | Kaelten | Requests6 kreq |
| 13:58.20 | Kaelten | Traffic891.87 Mbyte |
| 13:58.43 | |Kev| | 6gig/hour? |
| 13:58.43 | Srosh | nearly 1 gig in 7min? oO |
| 13:58.45 | mitch0 | kaelten: did you talk with mikk about running the CIA script in the background? |
| 13:58.47 | |Kev| | that sounds...excessive |
| 13:58.56 | *** join/#wowace hypetech (i=hypetech@74-130-68-125.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 13:59.30 | steevdave | depends on the traffic :) |
| 13:59.35 | Kaelten | mitch0: something is weird about it and it doesn't work when I try to run it in the background. still slows the script down when CIA is done. |
| 13:59.36 | hypetech | man, this log file thing is driving me nuts :( We did gruul last night, and I had AutoCL running the whole time, when I got out, no log file :( |
| 13:59.41 | steevdave | we probably push somewhere in that range at work |
| 14:00.06 | striper | Kaelten: are there traffic peaks at certainh hours? |
| 14:00.13 | Trancer | hypetech: sw_fixlogstrings or silly junk? |
| 14:00.23 | hypetech | Trancer: hmm? |
| 14:00.30 | mitch0 | kaelten: may I take a look at the python script? |
| 14:00.31 | Trancer | hypetech: do you run sw_fixlogstrings or stuff like that? |
| 14:00.34 | steevdave | striper, sure, when the server first comes back like this, and ~end of school day |
| 14:00.35 | Kaelten | striper kinda |
| 14:00.43 | Kaelten | mitch0: which one and why? |
| 14:00.48 | striper | EOS where on the planet? :))) |
| 14:00.49 | hypetech | Trancer: well I have sw_fixlogstrings yes |
| 14:00.55 | Trancer | hypetech: that might be the cause |
| 14:00.55 | mitch0 | on the CIA stuff, to make it work in the background correctly :) |
| 14:01.08 | Kaelten | oh its just the one from CIA's website |
| 14:01.22 | mitch0 | ~CIA |
| 14:01.22 | purl | methinks cia is a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.vc/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) |
| 14:01.29 | hypetech | Trancer: I assumed it was need for SW_Stats. Thing is though, log files were working fine up until about 5 days ago, and I've had the same SW_Fixlogstrings the whole time |
| 14:01.46 | Trancer | try disabling it, see if that works |
| 14:01.50 | hypetech | ok |
| 14:02.27 | Kaelten | http://cia.vc/clients/svn/ciabot_svn.py |
| 14:02.37 | Trancer | time for a nap |
| 14:02.41 | mitch0 | thanks |
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| 14:03.38 | Punkie` | what spec server does wowace run on out of interest? |
| 14:03.39 | steevdave | striper, EOS is "above" outlands apparently |
| 14:03.52 | steevdave | yet can't ride flying mounts, kinda sucks |
| 14:03.56 | Kaelten | atm its a athalon 5400+ 2gb of ram 100mbit port |
| 14:04.07 | Kaelten | yeek 20 load |
| 14:04.58 | hypetech | Trancer: well actually I just logged on a rogue alt, disabled ALL mods, did /combatlog, killed a mob, did /combatlog again to stop logging, then logged out, and no log file. That should have created one, right? |
| 14:05.03 | striper | hmmm... the server would make about 200GB a day... that's a lot... |
| 14:05.29 | striper | i need to make sure the server still responds to iz's main purpose... |
| 14:05.34 | mitch0 | kaelten: it's not CIA which does the commit log constraint checks, right? it just forwards the log to irc |
| 14:05.54 | Kaelten | honestly don't know |
| 14:06.07 | Kaelten | rebooting box |
| 14:06.23 | striper | i must say i underestimated your traffic |
| 14:06.49 | Mech0z | Does taht which you are talking about have anything to do with the aceupdater downloading "sloooowly" ? just moved to a new place so dunno if its the internet although I dl'ed with 250kbit/s earlier on |
| 14:07.14 | Kaelten | striper: heh, we have been around 35 mbits since patch day |
| 14:07.20 | Kaelten | (at the 95th) |
| 14:07.40 | *** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:08.24 | mitch0 | kaelten: would you mind introducing a small change into that script that *might* break it temporarily? :) |
| 14:08.28 | jwwpua_ | anyone getting inconsistent Quixote errors when leaving an Arena? |
| 14:08.29 | clad|away | mitch0: The contraints are pre-commit hooks, and they're run on the server itself, the commit won't complete until they return |
| 14:08.34 | clad|away | not done by CIA |
| 14:08.41 | mitch0 | kk |
| 14:08.49 | mitch0 | I guessed so |
| 14:08.49 | striper | Kaelten: _if_, just if, i'd find a second machine on my line, would you ever be interested? |
| 14:08.51 | Kaelten | post-commit :) |
| 14:09.12 | striper | you'd have full access to it |
| 14:09.33 | Kaelten | striper I appreciate the offer, but not atm. I'll keep it in mind though |
| 14:09.55 | Kaelten | geez whats up with the apache traffic |
| 14:10.08 | nevcairiel | someone is mirroring the box :P |
| 14:10.23 | Kaelten | :S |
| 14:11.26 | Matrix110 | http://209.9.227.69/ |
| 14:11.28 | Matrix110 | ye:P |
| 14:11.35 | Matrix110 | clad posted that earlier |
| 14:11.52 | clad|away | thats the server ip |
| 14:11.53 | Kaelten | thats the squid server |
| 14:11.57 | clad|away | i misunderstood =) |
| 14:11.58 | striper | hmmm... if your server stays the 'main' box and various mirrors would be available via a round robin dns resolution... all your box needs to do is push the changed files to the mirrors... any flaw in the design? |
| 14:11.59 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 14:12.00 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 14:12.03 | clad|away | he changed that structure :P |
| 14:12.20 | Saroz | Where is teh forums! |
| 14:12.24 | *** join/#wowace odt (i=odt@ns.ericsson.ee) |
| 14:12.29 | Kaelten | well squid servers 20-25% of the traffic so it helps |
| 14:12.36 | clad|away | i need more people trying to break my bot, in #luabot if you're bored. |
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| 14:14.32 | Kaelten | I need a command line script I Can run to find an ip address thats being bad |
| 14:14.37 | hypetech | okay, this is seriously aggravating. My log file creates the empty file while in game like it's supposed to, then when I log out, if I stare at the file, all of the data is written, like it's supposed to be, but then after just a few seconds, the file just disappears out of the log directory :( |
| 14:15.34 | striper | Kaelten: huh? you mean something like 'grep'? |
| 14:15.51 | Kaelten | I'm not very good at grep :) |
| 14:15.52 | odt | someone know a click2heal like addon that would also react on mousewheel up/down on unitframe? |
| 14:16.03 | striper | grep -i ip file |
| 14:16.23 | Punkie` | odt: clique? |
| 14:16.35 | odt | how do you configure clique for mousewheel actions? |
| 14:16.45 | clad|away | you can't |
| 14:16.48 | odt | exactly |
| 14:16.59 | Punkie` | i've never used it, it was just a suggestion |
| 14:17.06 | Kaelten | striper but I don't know what the ip is |
| 14:17.08 | clad|away | i dont think unit frames can respond to mousewheel actions with secure templates. |
| 14:17.13 | clad|away | can they? |
| 14:17.18 | striper | how do you know the IP is bad then? |
| 14:17.52 | _icetrain | cat <logfile> | awk {'print $1'} | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -10 |
| 14:17.53 | odt | clad|away: makes sense i guess |
| 14:17.56 | Kaelten | striper I'd like to find ips who where using up more than they should. |
| 14:18.40 | clad|away | odt: Unfortunately they're not button clicks, so we're restricted with what we can do. I'll look into it tho, thanks. |
| 14:20.11 | Kaelten | _icetrain that showed me timestamps :S |
| 14:20.53 | _icetrain | change $1 to whatever column you have the ip's in the logfile |
| 14:21.15 | Kaelten | hehe just guessed that |
| 14:21.19 | _icetrain | =) |
| 14:21.33 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.46 | Kaelten | I do know that time frame was very busy though |
| 14:22.41 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.43 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.49 | Kaelten | think we've fouind the cuplrit |
| 14:23.14 | Punkie` | is that 21k requests? |
| 14:23.39 | hypetech | imagine that, it's in APNIC |
| 14:23.40 | hypetech | :p |
| 14:24.06 | Kaelten | Punkie`: yep |
| 14:24.13 | hypetech | taipei, taiwan |
| 14:24.26 | Kaelten | ya last few problem people have been from there |
| 14:24.42 | nevcairiel | you should run mysql repair and hope nothing is lost |
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| 14:24.57 | nevcairiel | your db crashed ^^ |
| 14:25.04 | Kaelten | first I need to add that ip to iptables |
| 14:25.24 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, btw, can i change font which bt3 uses for macro text / count text? |
| 14:25.24 | hypetech | just block APNIC's ranges |
| 14:25.38 | abbat_w | i want to do some changes for do fonts in one style |
| 14:26.08 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: sure, just change the format in the button creation part |
| 14:26.23 | Kaelten | hypetech: errr.. thats a pretty big chunk ain't it? |
| 14:26.43 | abbat_w | i try to frame.hotKey:SetFont("") but this doesn't working |
| 14:27.11 | Kaelten | geez I can't remember the syntax for a ip block |
| 14:27.39 | hypetech | I work for a web hosting company, and we block all APNIC traffic by default. We did some looking into it a couple of years ago and 95% of the traffic that came from APNIC was spam or otherwise malicious. We allow APNIC traffic on a one by one basis by request, and I'd say we might have one person a month that notices |
| 14:27.55 | nevcairiel | iptables -A INPUT -s x.x.x.x -j DROP |
| 14:28.13 | hypetech | might be different for you though, as a lot of gaming/developer traffic probably comes from APNIC |
| 14:28.19 | grzesieq | hm, any idea why pitbull insist on showing the portraits even though i dont want it to? |
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| 14:29.00 | abbat_w | grzesieq, try to disable Pitbull_Portrait in addon listing |
| 14:29.09 | sbu | nevcairiel: have you ever heard about unclickable buttons in some stances? my MT reported that he couldnt click recknessless until he switched to def stance and back (not reproducable) - could be bad if that happens with shield wall some day :o |
| 14:29.22 | Kaelten | hypetech: I know we have a large south korean audiance |
| 14:29.26 | Kaelten | don't want to ban all of them |
| 14:29.29 | grzesieq | abbat_w: don't even have it |
| 14:29.53 | Trancer | APNIC is huge |
| 14:29.55 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42500 10ItemValue/ (4 files): |
| 14:29.55 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 14:29.55 | CIA-22 | - Multiple default jewels now working |
| 14:29.55 | CIA-22 | - Auto best jewels now working |
| 14:29.55 | CIA-22 | - Send Set restructured |
| 14:30.07 | hypetech | Kaelten: ya, probably not a good idea for your situation |
| 14:30.15 | nevcairiel | sbu: update, he should. that bug was caused by 2.1.2 and fixed |
| 14:30.17 | Trancer | besides.. this time it's APNIC, tomorrow it's .nl |
| 14:30.46 | sbu | nevcairiel: okay, didnt know that it is already fixed - just heard about it and since it wasnt reproducable... %-) |
| 14:31.02 | nevcairiel | its reproducable, if you know why it happens :) |
| 14:31.03 | Kaelten | ok anyone know how to do a mysql repair |
| 14:31.04 | Kaelten | ? |
| 14:31.10 | Kaelten | added that ip to the block list |
| 14:31.11 | Trancer | one table? |
| 14:31.21 | Kaelten | Trancer thats all its asking for atm |
| 14:31.29 | sbu | nevcairiel: mh - true :o |
| 14:31.35 | Trancer | what kind of error? |
| 14:31.39 | nevcairiel | login on mysql commandline client, and REPAIR TABLE <table> |
| 14:31.50 | Trancer | yeah what nevcairiel says |
| 14:31.53 | hypetech | oh ffs, has something changed where a log file gets archived to a different location immediatley after it is written using /combatlog or something? i'm going to start throwing things =( |
| 14:31.56 | Trancer | if you wnt to check up first.. myisamcheck it |
| 14:32.25 | nevcairiel | if you cant login anymore, turn the daemon off, and only run the check tool |
| 14:32.26 | sbu | yeah, run myisamchk on your .MYI file(s) |
| 14:33.36 | Kaelten | oh, on a side note, which is better having multiple smallter databases or one larger one? |
| 14:33.48 | nevcairiel | depends how you use them |
| 14:33.48 | FryGuy_ | a large one |
| 14:33.54 | Trancer | depends on how you use them |
| 14:33.56 | Trancer | .... |
| 14:34.04 | Trancer | a large one with good indexes is better |
| 14:34.18 | Trancer | (and one that you optimize frequently) |
| 14:34.25 | Kaelten | well more what I'm wondering is it better to house wiki and forums in the same database or two seperate ones |
| 14:34.43 | nevcairiel | they are not really linked in any way, are they? |
| 14:34.49 | Trancer | database isn't too relevant, but if it's duplicate data.. |
| 14:35.00 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: no not at all |
| 14:35.15 | FryGuy_ | probably separate |
| 14:35.18 | Kaelten | running repair. not sure if thats going to slow down the server or not |
| 14:35.23 | nevcairiel | if they are seperate anyway, keep the databases seperate imho |
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| 14:35.26 | FryGuy_ | because you could theoretically run them on separate boxen anyways |
| 14:35.50 | FryGuy_ | if the data is linked together at all though, you should use 1 db.. it's not really likely though, except maybe authentication |
| 14:35.59 | Kaelten | heh |
| 14:36.12 | Kaelten | geez apache traffic is slammed |
| 14:36.21 | Kaelten | 60 requests currently being processed, 0 idle workers |
| 14:36.22 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42501 10Assessment/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 14:36.22 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 14:36.22 | CIA-22 | - Reimplemented displaySetSet FixCasing |
| 14:36.22 | CIA-22 | - Modified a number of tags that were still using the old casing |
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| 14:37.13 | nevcairiel | did i miss some major patch? :) |
| 14:37.21 | Kaelten | geez another table was borked |
| 14:37.38 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: just somone spamming the server to all hell and back |
| 14:37.59 | Kaelten | forums are back :) |
| 14:38.18 | nevcairiel | did you consider some limitation plugins for apache? |
| 14:38.25 | nevcairiel | so limit a single ip to spam you to hell and back? |
| 14:38.35 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 14:38.38 | Kaelten | to be honest. no. |
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| 14:39.36 | Fisker- | oh lol |
| 14:39.50 | Fisker- | You can attack shartuul and get loot rights on the item |
| 14:39.54 | sbu | Kaelten: hm - whats wrong with http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml? |
| 14:39.55 | Fisker- | crossfaction xD |
| 14:40.02 | sbu | lol |
| 14:40.42 | Fisker- | Some gnome mage attacked Shartuul while a horde was trying the event, and each time the gnome got killed he just went back and continued to attack him |
| 14:40.46 | hypetech | I think it might have been fucking Rupture, hijacking my logs -.- |
| 14:40.49 | Fisker- | When shartuul died they both got a roll box :D |
| 14:40.54 | Fisker- | and the gnome died |
| 14:40.55 | Fisker- | err |
| 14:40.56 | Fisker- | won |
| 14:41.04 | sbu | heh - rollbox crossfaction? |
| 14:41.15 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: i can recommend looking at mod_cband then |
| 14:41.19 | Kaelten | sbu: the script got interupted |
| 14:41.26 | sbu | Fisker-: but you have to tag the mob - right? |
| 14:41.56 | Kaelten | running it manually to get everything up to speed |
| 14:43.19 | Fisker- | sbu as long as you deal enough damage it apparently doesn't matter |
| 14:43.27 | sbu | mhh |
| 14:43.31 | Fisker- | and since a mage just uses a firespell he can do tremendous amount of damage |
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| 14:45.08 | hypetech | omg, it WAS rupture stealing my logs |
| 14:45.13 | hypetech | arrrrggghhhhh |
| 14:45.19 | hypetech | well at least I know now |
| 14:46.23 | grzesieq | hm, seems like pitbull doesn't like sharedmedia |
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| 14:46.35 | sbu | hypetech? huh? |
| 14:47.05 | hypetech | rupture apparently hijacks your log file for it's own use |
| 14:47.35 | Kaelten | which log file? |
| 14:47.47 | hypetech | when you do /combatlog |
| 14:48.56 | simeng | ahhh.. that explains quite a bit |
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| 14:49.08 | simeng | was wondering why it was deleted every time i quit wow |
| 14:49.22 | hypetech | lol |
| 14:49.25 | nevcairiel | whats rupture? |
| 14:49.25 | hypetech | now you speak up |
| 14:49.28 | Kaelten | damn the mkfiles script is bombing |
| 14:49.28 | hypetech | rupture.com |
| 14:49.48 | Kaelten | its a profiling service. |
| 14:50.07 | Kaelten | I hate random bugs poping up |
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| 14:54.45 | Kaelten | TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable |
| 14:54.47 | Kaelten | :s |
| 14:56.47 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 14:56.49 | Kaelten | no |
| 14:56.54 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 15:04.12 | Kaelten | ok latest xmls are back |
| 15:05.18 | sbu | thank you |
| 15:05.40 | striper | wow |
| 15:05.51 | striper | i was born under a beatles star! |
| 15:06.13 | striper | just found a website to check which song was Number 1 the day you were born :) |
| 15:06.25 | dRiN | can I have a link please :D |
| 15:06.32 | striper | just german charts |
| 15:06.42 | dRiN | From the Netherlands ; ) |
| 15:06.44 | striper | http://www.nr1finder.de/ |
| 15:06.51 | striper | should be ok then :) |
| 15:06.52 | dRiN | I can handle german charts, even though they are always behind ; ) |
| 15:07.02 | striper | ahead! ahead that is! |
| 15:07.04 | dRiN | ill just subtract 1 year ; ) |
| 15:07.07 | dRiN | haha |
| 15:07.10 | striper | LOL |
| 15:09.26 | striper | what's your song then? |
| 15:11.16 | Kinkx | [2007/07/02 15:07:04-1356-x2907]: ArenaMaster-1.0\Core.lua:464: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 15:11.26 | Kinkx | Any other good "ArenaMaster" addon out there? ;p |
| 15:11.27 | dRiN | Olivia Newton-John & ELO - Xanadu |
| 15:11.38 | sbu | hm - Rod Stewart - Baby Jane |
| 15:11.40 | Megalon | Culture Club - Do You Really Want To Hurt Me |
| 15:11.41 | Megalon | :SSSS |
| 15:11.44 | dRiN | :D |
| 15:11.45 | dRiN | HAHA |
| 15:11.51 | mitch0 | kinkx: I heard about gladiator, dunno if that's better though |
| 15:11.53 | striper | hahaha... |
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| 15:12.17 | striper | feeling sorry for Megalon now |
| 15:12.18 | heidaro | hiho |
| 15:12.55 | Megalon | hm :< |
| 15:13.34 | heidaro | I have a small annoyance with pitbull, not sure if it's a bug or what but I got it after updating it via svn today; http://heidaro.shadowness.org/pitbull.jpg <- notice the small space under my manabar? I don't have castinbar/repbar/xpbar or blank space enabled, so I have no idea what's causing it. |
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| 15:15.27 | odt | anyone know why topscorefu isnt tracking healing for me? |
| 15:15.38 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r42502 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua: |
| 15:15.38 | CIA-22 | ManaPerc: |
| 15:15.38 | CIA-22 | - Try hooking OnTooltipSetSpell instead of OnShow to add mana percentages to spells |
| 15:16.59 | phyber | odt: sunspots, or if it was working and then stopped, perhaps a Parser-3.0 change. |
| 15:17.09 | Boubouille | can you still remove the 255 characters limit on macros ? I know you could but I didn't find anything during my 27 seconds research on files.wowace |
| 15:18.08 | phyber | the last real change to TopScoreFu was at the beginning of June, I made it track Druid's pounce ability. |
| 15:18.33 | Punkie` | Boubouille: minimum research time is 28 seconds before you come here! |
| 15:18.41 | Boubouille | I was already here :( |
| 15:18.54 | phyber | get out and come back in 28 seconds time then! |
| 15:19.00 | Punkie` | I think there was megamacro or something *somewhere* |
| 15:19.12 | Boubouille | thanks |
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| 15:20.33 | CIA-22 | 03airochen * r42503 10oRA2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): oRA2: update zhTW |
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| 15:21.22 | Hjalte | Someone should make an addon that can tell me what rep quests i havent done with a certain faction. But at the same time, I know no-one probably never will :( |
| 15:22.14 | diggZ | Anyone know why i turn off Banzai module for Pitbull yet i am still getting aggro alert warning around screen and the sound? |
| 15:22.29 | diggZ | driving me nuts need to get it turned off asap |
| 15:22.49 | Punkie` | delete the folder? |
| 15:22.50 | vhaarr | because you have banzaialert as well? |
| 15:22.59 | Boubouille | Punkie` : megamacro incompatible :( |
| 15:23.06 | phyber | diggZ: new crazy omen "OMG WTF CHEERING AGGRO" sounds? |
| 15:23.18 | diggZ | oh is it omen thats doing it? |
| 15:23.21 | phyber | sidenote: that's a really annoying default. |
| 15:23.30 | diggZ | thats what i get for getting a new addon and updating all my old ones same time |
| 15:23.54 | Punkie` | diggZ: that was so funny on vent when everyone updated :p |
| 15:24.05 | Punkie` | 'wtf is that?' |
| 15:24.06 | mitch0 | hehe, that omen agro sound drives everyone crazy :) |
| 15:24.09 | diggZ | normaly i would never do that dont know what i was thinking |
| 15:24.31 | Cryect | the omen aggro and sound need to be off by default >_> |
| 15:24.35 | diggZ | i have been tearing apart pitbull since yesterday trying to get rid of it |
| 15:24.43 | mitch0 | haha |
| 15:24.54 | mitch0 | I asked here first :P |
| 15:24.58 | mitch0 | laziness ftw |
| 15:25.17 | Cryect | there has been like no one who's wanted it on by default |
| 15:26.05 | diggZ | well with it going off after each spell hits being close to top of threat was making me want to hurt somone |
| 15:27.30 | Punkie` | Boubouille: no idea then :( |
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| 15:31.07 | RogueShadow | Trying to figure out how to adjust text size in assessment |
| 15:33.26 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42504 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 15:33.26 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 15:33.26 | CIA-22 | - Implemented a full parsing FixCasing routine. Copes with all valid placements of \" \[ \], and won't try and case change anything it finds an error in quoting with. |
| 15:33.26 | CIA-22 | - Added TagCompiler:Evaluate(). Only recommended for simple situations |
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| 15:36.50 | Vilkku | anyone involved with Omen here? |
| 15:37.57 | mitch0 | eh: http://cozzy.nl/mod.jpg |
| 15:38.56 | mitch0 | vilkku: just turn off the audio warning |
| 15:39.16 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42505 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: |
| 15:39.16 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 15:39.16 | CIA-22 | - Minor rearrangement of code |
| 15:39.43 | Wobin_ | omg |
| 15:39.51 | Wobin_ | I was -wondering- wtf that cheering was |
| 15:39.57 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 15:40.08 | Wobin_ | It was my first time in Arcatraz |
| 15:40.17 | Wobin_ | And I was going "Which mob makes -that- noise?!" |
| 15:40.20 | mitch0 | hehe, same with me (but with prince instead) |
| 15:40.36 | Gagorian | I was in TK, horribly confused! |
| 15:40.40 | mitch0 | I thought "this prince guy sure is annoying" :) |
| 15:40.40 | RogueShadow | Roartindon: how can I change the size of text in assessment? |
| 15:40.49 | Mikk | omg! stop press! new smileys on the forum! |
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| 15:41.29 | mitch0 | anyway, work over. seeya |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42506 10Assessment/AssessmentTag.lua: |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-22 | - Minor rearrangement of code. Also, FixTagCasing requires a 2nd parameter |
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| 15:43.26 | RogueShadow | n/m finally found it |
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| 15:45.04 | Vilkku | mitch0, eh? |
| 15:45.04 | Antiarc|Work | Morning all |
| 15:45.10 | Vilkku | you tabbed wrong there I suppose? |
| 15:45.53 | Vilkku | or you just assumed what I was going to say? :p |
| 15:45.59 | Vilkku | anyway, few questions/requests: |
| 15:46.13 | Vilkku | any way to remove the tooltip when hovering over a player in Omen? |
| 15:46.19 | striper | hmmm... what editor do you guys preferrably to edit in lua? |
| 15:46.21 | Vilkku | and any way to remove the version info at the bottom? |
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| 15:46.37 | Kalman| | Morning, Anti. |
| 15:46.39 | Vilkku | and finally, is there some option to enable in raids and disable when you leave the raid? |
| 15:46.43 | striper | the missing word in my last sentence is 'use' |
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| 15:49.40 | striper | please don't tell me you're using notepad... |
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| 15:49.58 | Vilkku | I use notepas striper :p |
| 15:50.03 | Vilkku | notepad* |
| 15:50.30 | striper | no funny syntax highlighting? |
| 15:50.33 | kenlyric | Microsoft Works |
| 15:50.39 | kenlyric | It Just Works! |
| 15:51.38 | RogueShadow | I... doesn't really matter what I say much, but I like Crimson Editor. Not using mac. if I did I'd use textmate |
| 15:52.14 | RogueShadow | And I don't program in lua :) I just come here because I like it, and I like my addon's. And someday I may decide to make them. |
| 15:52.38 | striper | i'm still using VIM... i just thought 'there must be something better out there' |
| 15:52.45 | durcyn | there is nothing better than vim. |
| 15:52.46 | sbu | notepad++ :o |
| 15:52.50 | jme | nope, never will be |
| 15:52.58 | durcyn | and insinuating as much is heresy. |
| 15:53.13 | trh | ~seen adirelle |
| 15:53.34 | purl | adirelle <n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 15h 29m 57s ago, saying: 'night'. |
| 15:53.47 | pastamancer | emacs! |
| 15:53.47 | jme | textmate is pretty nice, i use it for most coding now |
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| 15:53.47 | abyssichate | Vim is a pain in the ass |
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| 15:53.47 | durcyn | abyssichate: you take that back! |
| 15:53.47 | abyssichate | never! |
| 15:53.48 | abyssichate | Vim classes were the most boring thing ever |
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| 15:55.01 | Punkie` | I use Scite :o |
| 15:55.41 | diggZ | nothing will ever touch vim |
| 15:56.00 | Vilkku | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6419.msg117013#msg117013 anyone interested to take a look? ;) |
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| 15:56.05 | diggZ | not like anyone whos been suing it for years would switch anyway |
| 15:56.09 | phyber | vim classes? some guy reading 'vimtutor' to you? ;) |
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| 15:56.27 | trh | Vilkku: ask Antiarc|Work |
| 15:56.36 | Vilkku | oh he's here |
| 15:56.39 | LAG|Domo | Am I really blind, or is the Thread on the wowace forums for Baggins gone? |
| 15:56.47 | Punkie` | I hope that the version information is never removed tbh |
| 15:57.06 | Punkie` | it makes bug reports so much easier |
| 15:57.13 | abyssichate | phyber: they were not really dedicate to vim only |
| 15:57.19 | abyssichate | *dedicated |
| 15:57.56 | phyber | did they show you that editor with the integrated kitchen sink, emacs? |
| 15:58.07 | abyssichate | :|. |
| 15:58.11 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42507 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: fixed zhCN local |
| 15:58.13 | phyber | hehe. |
| 15:59.06 | pb_ee1 | http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/ShiftClickFix.zip |
| 15:59.09 | pb_ee1 | Dunno what it is |
| 15:59.30 | pastamancer | sure, emacs takes 10 seconds to startup on my powerbook, but it's the only program I ever have to open |
| 15:59.54 | Sais | Emacs the OS. |
| 15:59.57 | Sais | :) |
| 16:00.54 | Sais | How do you make an Emacs user happy? Give him a set of foot pedals. |
| 16:01.22 | diggZ | thats what you get for using a gui |
| 16:01.38 | pastamancer | nah, with the mac keyboard, I use command as meta and still have alt and control |
| 16:01.47 | striper | hmmm... i didn't want to start a religuious war here :) |
| 16:02.07 | diggZ | emacs vs vim will always end up in a war |
| 16:02.07 | Antiarc|Work | Vilkku: No way to remove the tooltip right now. It shouldn't be empty though |
| 16:02.23 | Sais | striper: I use XEmacs running Viper (Vi Emulation)...I keep a foot in both camps. |
| 16:02.33 | Antiarc|Work | Version info will disappear when Omen and Threat have a stable release; I want them on for bug report screenshots right now |
| 16:02.48 | Antiarc|Work | Show In Raid will be added. :) |
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| 16:03.23 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: any chance of making the aggro warning off by default |
| 16:03.26 | LAG|Domo | Anyone have a clue what happened to Baggins? |
| 16:03.30 | Antiarc|Work | It should be off by default now |
| 16:03.34 | Mikk | LAG|Domo: hm? howso? |
| 16:03.46 | LAG|Domo | The thread seems to be gone from the wowace.com forums. |
| 16:03.56 | striper | need to run, c ya guys tomorrow, i await a summary of the editor discussion :) |
| 16:04.04 | Cryect | did you change that? was quite annoying having the entire raid keep asking about how do I turn off this annoying yell |
| 16:04.11 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 16:04.15 | Mikk | Well, nothing "happened" to it. It's being improved upon right now by Nargiddley. |
| 16:04.16 | Antiarc|Work | I got yelled at that night and good :D |
| 16:04.21 | Antiarc|Work | s/night/nice/ |
| 16:04.21 | LAG|Domo | I had a problem with mine and asked a question a few days back. Went back to check if it was answered, but I can't find the thread anymore. Maybe I'm just blind, but I used search and all. ;) |
| 16:04.21 | Cryect | hehe |
| 16:04.43 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42508 10VanasKoS/modules/WarnFrame.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix |
| 16:04.44 | LAG|Domo | Oh right, thanks Mikk |
| 16:04.54 | LAG|Domo | I'll just wait and see then :) |
| 16:04.55 | Vilkku | Antiarc|Work, any info on the other questions or posting in forums? |
| 16:05.18 | Mikk | LAG|Domo: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4055.0 |
| 16:05.21 | Antiarc|Work | Which ones, specifically? |
| 16:05.42 | Vilkku | don't know if you checked my post |
| 16:06.03 | Vilkku | but basically, aside from the tooltip, there's the information at the bottom that I don't like |
| 16:06.05 | RogueShadow | Crimson Editor! |
| 16:06.12 | Vilkku | and the thing that lets you resize the windows |
| 16:06.15 | Vilkku | window* |
| 16:06.26 | RogueShadow | actually. Any Notepad++ users able to change the screen colors to blackbackground colored' code. |
| 16:06.30 | RogueShadow | because I couldnt |
| 16:06.32 | RogueShadow | I tried |
| 16:06.35 | pb_ee1 | http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/movies/WoWSneakPeekDownloader.exe |
| 16:06.43 | pb_ee1 | same: dunno what it is p |
| 16:06.43 | RogueShadow | one of the screenshots on thier website has it that way. but I can't get it to do it |
| 16:07.26 | pb_ee1 | And for the ones who don't have the collector edition: http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/movies/behindthescenes.avi :) |
| 16:07.37 | todd | would this channel be the best place to report a problem with pitbull? |
| 16:07.42 | Mikk | yes |
| 16:07.43 | Mikk | well |
| 16:07.44 | Mikk | not really |
| 16:07.50 | pb_ee1 | todd: forums are also a good place |
| 16:08.02 | KriLL3 | how do I see pet happiness in pitbull? |
| 16:08.26 | RogueShadow | It's the color of the pet health bar I believe |
| 16:08.33 | RogueShadow | Green happy. |
| 16:08.38 | Antiarc|Work | Vilkku: (09:02:14) Antiarc|Work: Version info will disappear when Omen and Threat have a stable release; I want them on for bug report screenshots right now :) |
| 16:08.47 | KriLL3 | RogueShadow: thx |
| 16:08.49 | Antiarc|Work | "However were multi-target threat to come to KTM, the same problem would exist in reverse. Currently when omen sees two mobs with the same name, it gives up and puts them in the same basket, whereas an implementation as i have thought about it previously would isolate separate instances of the same mob." |
| 16:08.54 | Antiarc|Work | Wonder how he plans to do that. |
| 16:08.56 | Mikk | todd: According to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PitBull you can use Trac or ckknight's wowi portal. They're linked from there. |
| 16:09.18 | pb_ee1 | Antiarc|Work: same |
| 16:09.21 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: by checnking if it's a hunter 100 times a second. |
| 16:09.25 | Antiarc|Work | Heh. |
| 16:09.33 | pb_ee1 | Is there a way to make the difference between two mobs that have the same name? |
| 16:09.36 | pb_ee1 | I don't think so |
| 16:09.41 | Antiarc|Work | Only if they're both targeted by raid members. |
| 16:09.42 | Mikk | not really no |
| 16:09.50 | Antiarc|Work | You can check UnitIsUnit(a, b) and see if they are different |
| 16:09.55 | Antiarc|Work | But that assumes they're targeted |
| 16:10.05 | pb_ee1 | Well, there _could_ eventually be a possibility with using the focus |
| 16:10.05 | durcyn | even then, you only know if they're different mobs, it's not like it's easy to determine who damages which |
| 16:10.12 | pb_ee1 | but it would limit to only two mobs... |
| 16:10.14 | RogueShadow | I never use focus |
| 16:10.28 | pb_ee1 | focus is so insane for shackles/polymorph/... |
| 16:10.37 | pb_ee1 | you can cc without targetting the mob |
| 16:10.44 | Mikk | pb_ee1: it's extensible, but it becomes an N:N problem ultimately, where you need to check all raid member's targets against eachother |
| 16:10.45 | Wobin_ | you can do lots without targetting the mob |
| 16:10.46 | pb_ee1 | so you can still dps/heal without changing target to cc |
| 16:10.50 | Antiarc|Work | Focus is kinda imba in the arena. |
| 16:10.52 | Wobin_ | you can cast anything without targetting the mob |
| 16:10.57 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: exactly. Not a good solution |
| 16:11.02 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: That's okay, you weren't doing anything with that CPU anyway. |
| 16:11.04 | Gagorian | Well, hmm.. The threatmeter could use focus to store unitIDs, automatically focus new mobs that aren't focused |
| 16:11.08 | Mikk | haha |
| 16:11.14 | Wobin_ | Except checking to see if you were suddenly a hunter or not |
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| 16:11.19 | pb_ee1 | UnitId's? :p |
| 16:11.20 | Wobin_ | Cause you never know.. |
| 16:11.22 | pastamancer | you can't change focus in combat |
| 16:11.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Antiarc|Work, the warning flash for Omen is too long for my liking - esp when solo, only one flash is needed |
| 16:11.31 | pastamancer | only the secure code can |
| 16:11.35 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn|afk: I'll probably make that configurable :) |
| 16:11.37 | Gagorian | Hmm, failed then. |
| 16:11.40 | Kirkburn|afk | cool! |
| 16:11.50 | Antiarc|Work | I'd like input on implicit mob name translation |
| 16:11.53 | Mikk | pastamancer: "you" = "an addon" |
| 16:11.54 | pb_ee1 | Gagorian: It would be nice to have the Unit IDs in game but that's impossible ;-) |
| 16:11.54 | Antiarc|Work | The current implementation is falling flat. |
| 16:12.20 | pastamancer | Mikk: well, yeah |
| 16:12.22 | Wobin_ | pastamancer: You sure? I'm sure I've set focus during combat |
| 16:12.34 | Kirkburn|afk | "only the secure code can" |
| 16:12.44 | Wobin_ | oh |
| 16:12.56 | pastamancer | for values of you meaning "an addon developer" |
| 16:12.57 | Antiarc|Work | You have to set it with a hardware input. |
| 16:13.00 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 16:13.12 | Wobin_ | where 'you' can equal '/focus<enter>' |
| 16:13.18 | Antiarc|Work | Lordy, my english is atrocious early in the morning |
| 16:13.36 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: what translation problems are you running into? |
| 16:13.43 | Gagorian | pb_ee1: Well I was refering to the particular players "focus" unitID, if kept separated they could all point to different units |
| 16:13.54 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: The most common is translations being mixed up due to rapid tab-targeting. |
| 16:14.03 | Antiarc|Work | net lag + rapid target switching = wrong translations |
| 16:14.07 | pastamancer | ah |
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| 16:14.11 | Gagorian | So you could index them as Bob's focus = Mob1 and verify Bob's focus against the mob you're fighting |
| 16:14.15 | Gagorian | *targeting |
| 16:14.20 | Antiarc|Work | Lots of EU people are reporting that tanks drop off of the meters, only to reappear 45 sec later |
| 16:14.24 | Antiarc|Work | And it's only EU people |
| 16:14.32 | Antiarc|Work | So I'm convinced it's something to do with mob name translation |
| 16:14.42 | ccKep | <<< couldn't test yesterday :( |
| 16:14.48 | ccKep | reserve duty |
| 16:14.51 | Antiarc|Work | :( |
| 16:14.54 | Kirkburn|afk | What part of the EU? |
| 16:15.02 | Antiarc|Work | Not sure. Just people on EU servers |
| 16:15.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Since I doubt it would affect enGB |
| 16:15.08 | Antiarc|Work | (who are likely to be in multi-locale groups) |
| 16:15.12 | durcyn | grrrrrr. SML sound makes me want to throw someone off a roof. |
| 16:15.18 | Antiarc|Work | Well, if they're an enGB playing with a deDE and a frFR... |
| 16:15.20 | ccKep | 7 hours of sitting around, 30 minutes invite into raid for karatherss -.- |
| 16:15.31 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: Why? |
| 16:15.33 | pastamancer | can you watch UNIT_TARGET and ignore the addon message if the target changed in the past x seconds? |
| 16:15.40 | Kirkburn|afk | There's not a great deal of that, but it could be |
| 16:15.50 | durcyn | because it doesn't abstract PlaySound and PlaySoundFile, it just feeds a potentially broken string to clients |
| 16:16.07 | durcyn | i.e. if i want to load builtin sounds into SML, I have to fix every potential client |
| 16:16.15 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: That's basically what I'm doing as of last night |
| 16:16.19 | Antiarc|Work | But it still leaves holes. |
| 16:16.26 | Antiarc|Work | I think I'm just going to have to get a lot more aggressive with translations. |
| 16:16.31 | durcyn | like, i dunno, fix BanzaiAlert's use of AuctionWindowClose or Sounds\\whatever |
| 16:16.43 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Is the Omen warning sound is now disabled by default? |
| 16:16.50 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 16:16.53 | durcyn | because as it exists now, only SML sounds work, thanks to some chucklehead adding pointless libraries |
| 16:16.59 | durcyn | </end rant> |
| 16:17.03 | Iceroth | Antiarc|Work, we had some issues with Omen last night at Hydross, tonk's threat was nowhere near where it should have been |
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| 16:17.16 | Antiarc|Work | Iceroth: US or EU? |
| 16:17.16 | Iceroth | (as in, it was way too low) |
| 16:17.19 | Iceroth | eu |
| 16:17.23 | Antiarc|Work | Hehe, yup. |
| 16:17.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Some of those warning sounds I can choose for Omen are utterly crazy :P |
| 16:17.29 | Antiarc|Work | I'm convinced it's due to this translation stuff. |
| 16:17.39 | Iceroth | O.o |
| 16:17.51 | Antiarc|Work | Threat does automatic mob name translation between locales |
| 16:18.02 | ccKep | hope I can test it out on vashj today, was having some issues last time I was there |
| 16:18.08 | Antiarc|Work | So that it can correlate mobs even though they have different names in different locales. |
| 16:18.20 | Antiarc|Work | Something is wrong with the translation code, and is causing problems. |
| 16:18.25 | Iceroth | well yeah but aren't the names same in enGB and enUS? |
| 16:18.35 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, but they aren't the same in enGB and deDE |
| 16:18.42 | pastamancer | haha, the tiny changelogs are a subversion bug |
| 16:18.46 | Antiarc|Work | (which is pretty common in a raidgroup, actually) |
| 16:18.49 | pastamancer | that was driving me nuts |
| 16:18.52 | Gagorian | Does the code run enGB <-> enUS? |
| 16:18.59 | Antiarc|Work | It would, yeah |
| 16:19.04 | Antiarc|Work | Though the translation should end up being the same. |
| 16:19.04 | Iceroth | i'm quite positive our tank does have enGB client |
| 16:19.14 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, actually... |
| 16:19.19 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: But maybe disable it enGB <-> enUS |
| 16:19.22 | Gagorian | if it's going to be the same |
| 16:19.32 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: I'd actually use that as a control mechanism, to think about it. |
| 16:19.43 | Antiarc|Work | So that if a translation comes across and doesn't match, throw an assertation. |
| 16:19.54 | Gagorian | Ah, indeed |
| 16:19.58 | Antiarc|Work | Good way to test for the accuracy of the translation system. |
| 16:19.59 | Fisker- | how do i copied wowace svn Kaelten :< |
| 16:20.01 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc|Work |
| 16:20.03 | Fisker- | heard the news? |
| 16:20.06 | Antiarc|Work | What news? |
| 16:20.07 | Fisker- | You are incompetent again |
| 16:20.11 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, no doubt. |
| 16:20.19 | Antiarc|Work | I was never unincompetent! |
| 16:20.20 | Fisker- | Kenco can do multi-target threat with mobs having the same name |
| 16:20.29 | Kaelten | err... |
| 16:20.31 | Kaelten | say who? |
| 16:20.34 | Antiarc|Work | Well, I could too, but I'm not as awesome as him :( |
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| 16:20.57 | RogueShadow | Kaelten: He siad he thought of a way to do it If he were to do it. or somethingl ike that. |
| 16:21.00 | Wobin_ | Says Kenco |
| 16:21.11 | Fisker- | Although he scrapped the idea i guess |
| 16:21.13 | RogueShadow | However were multi-target threat to come to KTM, the same problem would exist in reverse. Currently when omen sees two mobs with the same name, it gives up and puts them in the same basket, whereas an implementation as i have thought about it previously would isolate separate instances of the same mob. |
| 16:21.37 | nevcairiel | (which alot of people here think is technically impossible) |
| 16:21.43 | RogueShadow | ya |
| 16:21.52 | Fisker- | i guess everyone's computer will grind to a halt while he checks for HP, Level, Model, Raid icon each frame |
| 16:21.57 | Antiarc|Work | You could get close by watching debuff configurations and health and mana and stuff |
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| 16:22.06 | Antiarc|Work | But it would be so prone to race conditions, it wouldn't be funny. |
| 16:22.13 | Antiarc|Work | Net lag's a bitch. |
| 16:22.18 | nevcairiel | thats the suckiest method ever |
| 16:22.20 | sag_ich_nicht | raid icon check would be enough i think |
| 16:22.24 | sag_ich_nicht | if you stick to the same ones |
| 16:22.25 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 16:22.29 | Antiarc|Work | You can't correlate a raid icon to a combat log entry |
| 16:22.32 | Antiarc|Work | Period, paragraph. |
| 16:22.32 | Kaelten | ya I don't think there is anyway to get it done properly. |
| 16:22.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:22] <Antiarc|Work> You can't correlate a raid icon to a combat log entry <--mhm, true |
| 16:22.52 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 16:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | why am i in this channel |
| 16:22.55 | Wobin_ | There's no way to get even close to accurate |
| 16:22.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i wanted to be in #wowi-lounge |
| 16:23.00 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 16:23.02 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah |
| 16:23.02 | Wobin_ | God knows, sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:23.08 | nevcairiel | its everything about combatlog |
| 16:23.17 | nevcairiel | and that only gets you the name :x |
| 16:23.19 | RogueShadow | because you like this channel |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r42509 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-22 | BanzaiAlert: register BellTollAlliance and auction bell with sml. Warning, |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-22 | unless you check SML strings and send bell to PlaySound, PlaySoundFile will not |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-22 | work. This should probably exist as a function in SML, but doesn't. Caveat |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-22 | emptor. |
| 16:23.36 | Mikk | The only way it could ever work is with a huge caveat emptor: Setup icons before attack. Do not change icons during combat. Never nuke something that isn't your target. Everyone must run Omen. |
| 16:23.57 | RogueShadow | I've started using like 6 different addon's since I started hanging out here, and I like them all. I'm staying. lol. I dont' even write addon's. |
| 16:23.59 | Wobin_ | Mikk: Everyone must target whatever they're attacking at all times |
| 16:24.07 | Wobin_ | No mouseover targetting |
| 16:24.08 | Wobin_ | no aoe |
| 16:24.11 | Wobin_ | no multishot |
| 16:24.22 | Mikk | That's what I said wasn't it :P |
| 16:24.36 | Mikk | "Never nuke something that isn't your target" |
| 16:24.39 | Gagorian | All in all, it's a waste of time since that's usually not needed :P |
| 16:24.53 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: mind if i commit a PlaySound[File] check to Omen warnings? |
| 16:25.04 | Mikk | Yer, seriously, when you have multiple mobs it's just frigging l2p. They usually don't have enough health for it to matter. |
| 16:25.17 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:25.23 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: Can you elaborate? |
| 16:25.27 | nevcairiel | i cont think of any encounter where mobs with the same name really matter |
| 16:25.34 | nevcairiel | *cant |
| 16:26.07 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: if sound:find(%\\) then; PlaySoundFile(sound); else; PlaySound(sound); end |
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| 16:26.33 | Antiarc|Work | I have no idea why that's necessary, but sure. |
| 16:26.35 | durcyn | since I just registered a sound with sml that doesn't work with PSF, apparently |
| 16:27.24 | Vilkku | Antiarc|Work, what is the tooltip supposed to show? |
| 16:27.31 | Vilkku | and any plans on a way to remove the minimap icon? |
| 16:27.32 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42510 10VanasKoS/modules/Importer.lua: VanasKoS: some minor changes to the opium data import based on user feedback |
| 16:27.43 | Antiarc|Work | Vilkku: Just some help text. Left click and drag to create a pullout bar, right click to set options. |
| 16:27.56 | Vilkku | ah |
| 16:27.56 | Antiarc|Work | And I still need to check what FuBar_Plugin offers as far as icon hiding :) |
| 16:28.05 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r42511 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: add a check for sml playback to PlaySound if sound doesn't exist on the filesystem, i.e. AuctionWindowClose from BanzaiAlert. |
| 16:28.07 | Vilkku | great to know that you are working on it |
| 16:28.49 | trh | durcyn: search for the wav file inside the sound folder for that added sound |
| 16:28.53 | Vilkku | also, again this is in my post, please make it so that you can drag it outside the window, so that the I can get the bars tight to the edge of the screen |
| 16:28.53 | trh | durcyn: and add it with path |
| 16:29.08 | Vilkku | and an option to remove the thing you drag to resize the window |
| 16:29.16 | trh | durcyn: just changing the playfile in omen would probably hurt other mods that just use playfile without checking for the \ |
| 16:29.28 | trh | durcyn: (if you register soundfiles without path) |
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| 16:30.11 | durcyn | trh: could work, let me dig up an MPQ extractor |
| 16:30.37 | durcyn | i have no clue what AuctionWindowClose actually is, it was cribbed straight up from the old AggroAlert |
| 16:31.28 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r42512 10ArkInventory/Locale/koKR.lua: |
| 16:31.28 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 16:31.28 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 16:32.26 | durcyn | trh: since it's actually a blizzard builtin sound, fyi. |
| 16:32.47 | trh | durcyn: yeah, i used AuctionWindowOpen before i integrated SML in my mod =) |
| 16:32.58 | Antiarc|Work | It's probably the "Ding ding" that happens when you close the AH window. |
| 16:33.12 | trh | durcyn: but i guess all integrated sounds are accessible through Sound\something too :) |
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| 16:33.50 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: it is, i'll hunt up the \\Sounds\\ path and revert that |
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| 16:36.42 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: You remembered to put in filter zeroing on Feign, right? |
| 16:37.27 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: I ended up removing it in the last work-over of the algorithm |
| 16:37.30 | Antiarc|Work | Just need to put it back in |
| 16:37.42 | Dionne | No, Cower is useless because with any minimally decent tank they will NOT pull aggro... :P |
| 16:37.49 | Dionne | mt |
| 16:37.59 | Antiarc|Work | Unless they have Growl on too ;) |
| 16:38.30 | Dionne | growl is just a fixed amount of threat |
| 16:38.36 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, but it scales like a mofo. |
| 16:38.55 | Antiarc|Work | Blessing of Might + pet = wtfgrowl |
| 16:39.03 | trh | Dionne: if you let screech enabled you will :( |
| 16:39.05 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r42513 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: revert previous change |
| 16:39.06 | Dionne | save rage, wait till pet steals aggro, taunt back, 5 sunders, pet will never steal aggro again. But... I'll agree that would be a waste of focus. |
| 16:39.17 | Dionne | that it* |
| 16:39.21 | trh | Dionne: at least on multiple targets ;) |
| 16:39.40 | Dionne | well, multiple targets calls for a multiple-mob tanker! |
| 16:39.41 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42514 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Some fixes for syncing (still work to be done to get it working with real testing) |
| 16:39.43 | Dionne | i.e. paladins zomg! |
| 16:39.53 | trh | Dionne: druids are pretty good up to 3 targets too |
| 16:40.14 | Antiarc|Work | A pet with BoM Rank 8, 5/5 Imp BoM on them generates an extra 1500 threat per growl, assuming they're above the scaling floor. |
| 16:40.36 | Dionne | nah, swipe aint as good as focused 1 target on druids. But they at least do it easier than a warrior heh |
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| 16:40.59 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
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| 16:41.01 | Wobin_ | Antiarc|Work: That's crazy aggro |
| 16:41.04 | Antiarc|Work | No kidding. |
| 16:41.19 | Wobin_ | What defines the scaling floor? |
| 16:41.19 | Antiarc|Work | And that's on top of whatever threat they're already cranking out |
| 16:41.26 | Antiarc|Work | Pet level, for the most part |
| 16:41.33 | Antiarc|Work | It's 734 AP for a level 70 pet |
| 16:41.36 | Saroz | what the hell happened to pitbull, all my disabled modules are suddenly activated |
| 16:41.43 | trh | Antiarc|Work: pets growl is awesome... still sucks that it only scales with AP, not with crit |
| 16:41.47 | Antiarc|Work | The pet gets 5.7 threat per AP above 734. |
| 16:42.05 | Antiarc|Work | That's why boars can generate 5k threat with charge + growl |
| 16:42.10 | Fisker- | can i invoke the ticket/gm-interface with a script command? |
| 16:42.10 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 16:42.30 | Cryect | <Antiarc|Work> A pet with BoM Rank 8, 5/5 Imp BoM on them generates an extra 1500 threat per growl, assuming they're above the scaling floor. |
| 16:42.35 | Wobin_ | Maybe I'll get me a boar =) |
| 16:42.39 | Cryect | that would explain why I've seen pets rip aggro off me |
| 16:42.48 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Yes, easily. |
| 16:42.50 | Cryect | without almost any effort at all it seems by the pet |
| 16:42.55 | trh | Cryect: noooo.. u suck ;) hehehe ;) |
| 16:42.56 | Mikk | Fisker-: should be able to just show the ticket window yeah |
| 16:42.57 | Antiarc|Work | No player can keep up with a buffed pet for threat generation. |
| 16:42.58 | Wobin_ | That's why cower is good =) |
| 16:43.03 | Antiarc|Work | Their scaling is absolutely insane. |
| 16:43.03 | Cryect | I mean I can put out 1k TPS but not that much :-p |
| 16:43.04 | Saroz | ckknight, ping |
| 16:43.08 | trh | Cryect: but tbh, my pets gets aggro of every tank in the first 5 seconds |
| 16:43.21 | Cryect | Why is pet aggro so high? |
| 16:43.25 | trh | Cryect: the tanks just don't got enough rage at the beginning of a fight to build aggro up |
| 16:43.27 | Cryect | what were they thinking |
| 16:43.34 | trh | Cryect: otherwise the hunter would have always aggro while solo'ing |
| 16:43.42 | Wobin_ | It's true |
| 16:43.43 | Antiarc|Work | It's balanced for the hunter to be soloing, yeah. |
| 16:43.51 | Antiarc|Work | But in a group with buffs it scales like crazy. |
| 16:43.53 | trh | Cryect: even with the current aggro generation i get aggro at the end of a normal fight |
| 16:44.00 | Cryect | trh: Play a warlock they do always have aggro normally :-p |
| 16:44.04 | Antiarc|Work | Marks hunters get an extra 570 threat per growl to their pet from TSA. |
| 16:44.06 | Dionne | <Wobin_> That's why cower is good =) <-- no, without growl they wouldn't do such amount of threat - and why would you have him growling if he isn't supposed to tank? |
| 16:44.16 | trh | Cryect: if you remove my deadzone i'll gladly do ^^ |
| 16:44.37 | Mikk | warlock with vw: slap on corruption and wand. if you use corruption+CoA, you need to stop wanding at 50% cause you'll draw aggro when CoA starts ticking harder. |
| 16:45.05 | Dionne | spec demo and 3/3 imp vw, or spec affli and draintank it all |
| 16:45.17 | Wobin_ | Dionne: Then again, why would you want the pet gaining aggro at all if he's not tanking |
| 16:45.33 | Dionne | going with vw and just using a dot+wand its prolonging the fight innecesarily |
| 16:45.35 | Cryect | I said screw the VW on my warlock and went with succubus with soothing kiss disabled and just went afflic |
| 16:45.52 | Wobin_ | draintank ftw |
| 16:46.02 | Dionne | Wobin_: Pets do DPS. But their dps isn't high enough so as to justify the use of cower. |
| 16:46.24 | Cryect | Druids aren't pets |
| 16:46.26 | Cryect | :-p |
| 16:46.28 | Wobin_ | heeh |
| 16:46.29 | trh | Wobin_: so what? warlocks do 900 dps and don't get aggro |
| 16:46.43 | Dionne | /agree trh |
| 16:46.48 | Dionne | rogues do 1300dps and don't get aggro |
| 16:47.07 | trh | Wobin_: and cower is like a rogues feint.. nearly useless |
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| 16:47.13 | Wobin_ | http://bp2.blogger.com/_zco-Xcn0Gag/Rm7rdRehAFI/AAAAAAAABMk/OwS84zahKMU/s1600-h/Ceylaowns.jpg |
| 16:47.50 | Dionne | however you wanna look at it, not even with a BM hunter with full buffs and all that stuff, and growl off, the pet just won't steal aggro from tank from dps alone. If he somehow does, then your tank really, really sucks |
| 16:48.04 | Wobin_ | Dionne: such is the life of a pug hunter =) |
| 16:48.29 | Antiarc|Work | Rogues get a 29% passive reduction, too |
| 16:48.32 | Antiarc|Work | And a full threat wipe |
| 16:48.39 | trh | Antiarc|Work: 20% |
| 16:48.42 | Antiarc|Work | 29%. |
| 16:48.51 | Wobin_ | That's an odd number? |
| 16:48.55 | Kalman| | trh: 29% after they changed threat reductions to stack multiplicatively. |
| 16:49.01 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 16:49.07 | trh | ah.. ok =) |
| 16:49.07 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r42517 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: insert full path for AuctionWindowClose, should clear up any problems with PlaySound[File] for sml |
| 16:49.10 | Kalman| | It was made so that rogue+salv additive = newrogue+salv multiplicative. |
| 16:49.25 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.thottbot.com/s21184 |
| 16:49.27 | Kalman| | .71*.7 ~= .5 |
| 16:49.35 | Dionne | well if you pet somehow steals tank's aggro after 10s of starting the fight, then you must be an horrible hunter... because you should have stolen it way before your pet did :P |
| 16:49.52 | Dionne | .71 ? |
| 16:49.58 | Antiarc|Work | 1 - 0.29 = 0.71 |
| 16:50.04 | Antiarc|Work | So a rogue with salv doing 1300 DPS is only doing 650 TPS |
| 16:50.14 | durcyn | trh: fixed, i think |
| 16:50.17 | Dionne | 29%? |
| 16:50.17 | trh | Dionne: hehe.. well.. i got feign death, my pet doesnt ;) |
| 16:50.18 | Wobin_ | Dionne: Well, no, cause I can control my threat generation better than my pet =P |
| 16:50.19 | Punkie` | Cryect: poke! |
| 16:50.29 | Antiarc|Work | ^--- see Thott link |
| 16:50.31 | Dionne | wasn't 80% the melee threat generation of rogues / warrs / druids ? |
| 16:50.37 | Punkie` | ouch :( |
| 16:50.39 | Antiarc|Work | It was when threat modifiers were additive. |
| 16:50.42 | Antiarc|Work | Rogues get 29% now. |
| 16:50.49 | Dionne | oo thats news to me |
| 16:50.54 | Punkie` | I can't find the self only option for recount (i swear you told me you would add it!!) |
| 16:50.56 | Antiarc|Work | Cat druids too. |
| 16:51.03 | Cryect | I've been busy |
| 16:51.04 | Antiarc|Work | Wars still get 20% in berserker/battle |
| 16:51.09 | Dionne | I mean, 80% without any buffs. |
| 16:51.11 | Cryect | Haven't added much this past week |
| 16:51.18 | Antiarc|Work | 29% without and buffs |
| 16:51.24 | Antiarc|Work | 50% with salv. =) |
| 16:51.32 | Wobin_ | <3 salv |
| 16:51.34 | Dionne | why would they change it tho |
| 16:51.43 | Cryect | So the numbers stay the same |
| 16:51.45 | Antiarc|Work | Because they changed threat multipliers to be multiplicative. |
| 16:51.45 | Cryect | for rogues |
| 16:51.53 | Antiarc|Work | 20% reduction + 30% salv = 50% reduction |
| 16:51.56 | Wobin_ | but they wanted the end result to be the same |
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| 16:52.01 | CIA-22 | StatLogicLib: |
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| 16:52.05 | Punkie` | Cryect: oki, i will wait - cheers :) |
| 16:52.13 | Dionne | bleh, it should have stayed at 20%... so rogues can have a use for that feint... |
| 16:52.17 | Antiarc|Work | Then they changed it to additive, so 0.71 * 0.7 = 0.5 = 50% |
| 16:52.24 | Wobin_ | how much reduction does feint give? |
| 16:52.26 | Kalman| | At 20% there'd be no use for feint either. |
| 16:52.37 | Dionne | see? no point in change then! |
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| 16:52.40 | Antiarc|Work | Feint's like...1050 unmodified threat |
| 16:52.45 | Kalman| | Well, minus fights with frequent aggro resets. |
| 16:52.50 | Antiarc|Work | So -525 threat with Salv |
| 16:52.55 | durcyn | hrm. |
| 16:52.58 | durcyn | ~lart Mikk |
| 16:52.58 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Mikk |
| 16:53.00 | Cryect | how about you just say its minus 1050 damage :-p |
| 16:53.05 | Cryect | so you can ignore the threat portion |
| 16:53.06 | Wobin_ | yergh, salv affects threat reductions too? |
| 16:53.08 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 16:53.09 | Cryect | yes |
| 16:53.15 | Antiarc|Work | As does the rogue passive |
| 16:53.15 | trh | that's stupid |
| 16:53.16 | Wobin_ | That's kinda bizzare |
| 16:53.23 | durcyn | Mikk: making Postal LOD breaks ACTAI, i will cut you! |
| 16:53.25 | Antiarc|Work | The way it works is that Feint removes 1050 damage worth of threat. |
| 16:53.25 | trh | if anything they should make it additive/multiplicative |
| 16:53.34 | Antiarc|Work | A rogue with salv does 525 threat for every 1050 damage. |
| 16:53.46 | Antiarc|Work | Feint removes 1050 damage worth of threat, or 525. |
| 16:53.57 | Antiarc|Work | so it balances, but feint would be a lot more desirable if it weren't modified. |
| 16:54.02 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 16:54.10 | Wobin_ | it's not like you're taking damage away |
| 16:54.12 | Antiarc|Work | It'd be much more likely to be usable as a reactive ability |
| 16:54.15 | Antiarc|Work | Rather than a proactive one. |
| 16:54.17 | Cryect | then feint would get better the more threat reduction abilities you have on you |
| 16:54.20 | trh | i wonder why they didn't made that one hunter thing useful yet |
| 16:54.24 | trh | i forgot the name |
| 16:54.26 | trh | disengage |
| 16:54.27 | Wobin_ | Disengage |
| 16:54.34 | Dionne | plus rogues can just wait like 30s for tank to have a good build on threat then vanish and repop again... clean start |
| 16:54.36 | trh | most usesless skill ever |
| 16:54.37 | Antiarc|Work | Disengage is useful before you get FD |
| 16:54.39 | Wobin_ | I find it's easier to wingclip |
| 16:54.42 | Cryect | to make disengage useful would have to mean Feign Death is uselesss |
| 16:54.48 | Dionne | Disengage is useful at low levels |
| 16:54.50 | trh | Antiarc|Work: like i run to the mob to make disengage and fd? |
| 16:54.51 | Antiarc|Work | Much in the way that Lesser Heal is useful before you get Flash Heal as a priest. |
| 16:54.59 | Josh_Borke | lesser heal is useful? o.O |
| 16:55.01 | Wobin_ | Dionne: At those levels your pet isn't generating that much aggro either |
| 16:55.11 | Antiarc|Work | Josh_Borke: Before you get Flash Heal, yes :P |
| 16:55.16 | Josh_Borke | psh |
| 16:55.18 | Josh_Borke | lies |
| 16:55.21 | Cryect | also you can disengage if Feign death resists :-p |
| 16:55.21 | Josh_Borke | and mistruths |
| 16:55.22 | trh | Antiarc|Work: but disengage does only work in meelee |
| 16:55.27 | Antiarc|Work | It's a levelling skill, not a 70 skill. |
| 16:55.29 | Dionne | as a MM hunter from day one I was stealing my pet's aggro quite frequently before level30 |
| 16:55.43 | Dionne | in fact thats one thing that annoyed me to the end @ 60 |
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| 16:55.56 | trh | Dionne: BM for leveling :) |
| 16:55.59 | Wobin_ | need more BM =) |
| 16:56.01 | trh | Dionne: problems gone :) |
| 16:56.15 | Dionne | the fact I had to moderate my dps so my pet won't lose aggro. It was just autoshot... one mm/aimed/as and he would lose aggro :\ |
| 16:56.16 | trh | but i can't get friendly with BM as 70 |
| 16:56.25 | Dionne | I was raiding at 60. Pre BC. |
| 16:56.25 | trh | for a nice spec i miss 3 points for improved range |
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| 16:56.31 | Dionne | BM was a no-no.. |
| 16:56.38 | Dionne | pre 2.0 too. |
| 16:56.40 | trh | Dionne: only for leveling |
| 16:56.41 | Dionne | like... a year ago. |
| 16:56.42 | Wobin_ | It's true |
| 16:56.48 | Dionne | at 60 you have to farm too. |
| 16:56.49 | trh | Dionne: na.... bm was nice with 1.7 |
| 16:56.56 | Wobin_ | <3 mend pet |
| 16:56.58 | Dionne | I started wow at patch 1.8 :D |
| 16:57.02 | Wobin_ | new mend pet |
| 16:57.07 | sbu | some hunter keeps telling me that BM best raid spec atm |
| 16:57.12 | Dionne | wish locks would get a spell like that |
| 16:57.15 | Antiarc|Work | It's widely considered to be. |
| 16:57.19 | trh | Dionne: ya.. farming was kinda stupid as MM, but at a certain gear level you just had your pet standing by and killed anything until it reached you |
| 16:57.19 | Wobin_ | Read BRK |
| 16:57.24 | Dionne | I keep reading that too sbu. From very respectable guilds. |
| 16:57.27 | Wobin_ | http://bigredkitty.blogspot.com/ |
| 16:57.30 | kergoth`work | <3 BRK |
| 16:57.35 | Wobin_ | <3 BRK |
| 16:57.43 | Dionne | I was like two steps behind that point of gear trh :D |
| 16:57.44 | trh | sbu: yep BM is nice for raiding |
| 16:57.46 | kergoth`work | my hunter just hit 66, kill command is my new best friend :) |
| 16:57.56 | Wobin_ | I can't wait for that =) one more level |
| 16:58.04 | Leadhead | didn't BRK say not to train your 70 pet with growl? |
| 16:58.05 | Cryect | whats with the bad futurama fan art |
| 16:58.12 | Hjalte | Hmm. Why is KC_Items asking me if i want to import the master database now? It asked me that when the database was implemented. |
| 16:58.23 | Wobin_ | Cryect: Lack of quality material to work with? |
| 16:58.40 | Dionne | sooo anyone would lend me a hand enabling a disabled command on a mod? :O |
| 16:58.59 | Cryect | Wobin_: just seemed kinda weird relating to the news item it was posted with and thats the strangest face I've seen anyone make for Fry |
| 16:58.59 | trh | sbu: actually, in the guild of my flatmate, the BM hunter is always #1 on the damage meters |
| 16:59.09 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: fan art sucks, sorry to disappoint you ^^ |
| 16:59.14 | sbu | mhmh |
| 16:59.17 | trh | not always |
| 16:59.21 | trh | but usually, yes |
| 16:59.26 | Cryect | Fan art doesn't have to suck :-p |
| 16:59.33 | Cryect | if the artist is actually good you know |
| 16:59.40 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 16:59.48 | trh | i ripped btw zoidbergs whooping noises, cleaned it up and added it to the SML =) |
| 16:59.53 | trh | awesome as aggro sound for omen too :) |
| 17:00.02 | Gnarfoz | but for every one good artist, there's several dozen bad ones. and those are the ones doing fan art, most of the time :D |
| 17:00.14 | Cryect | I think Bender's Dooooomed yell should be the aggro warning ;) |
| 17:00.20 | Wobin_ | In regards to artists, <3 UrsulaV |
| 17:00.27 | trh | Cryect: if you tell me the episode i could rip it ^^ |
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| 17:00.48 | Cryect | its the episode where aliens attack or the title is something like that one second |
| 17:00.51 | Gnarfoz | also, who makes cherry pie with cherries that still have their cores in them? -.- |
| 17:00.56 | Wobin_ | pits? |
| 17:01.01 | Wobin_ | That'd kinda hurt |
| 17:01.03 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: the day the earth stood still? |
| 17:01.17 | trh | Gnarfoz: wasn't that the one with the giant brains? |
| 17:01.28 | Gnarfoz | giant brains sound alien to me :D |
| 17:01.33 | kenlyric | The Problem with Poplars |
| 17:01.39 | trh | right |
| 17:01.49 | trh | damn.. that episode isn't finished yet =) |
| 17:01.54 | trh | got to wait few hours ;) |
| 17:01.54 | kenlyric | that's what I yell out on curator. |
| 17:02.04 | kenlyric | for warlocks. |
| 17:02.13 | kenlyric | DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS |
| 17:02.14 | Cryect | oh was it Probllem with Popplers I think was right heh, was thinking When Aliens Attack (just remembered whats them came to attack earth) |
| 17:02.33 | Cryect | man that was horribly written |
| 17:03.30 | kenlyric | oh, there's a double one too, from the parallel universe one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8s7dz2qanA |
| 17:03.30 | Cryect | Ah yep 10:43 The Problem with Popplers :-p |
| 17:04.04 | kenlyric | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKb7hEpjyjc here is the problem with poplars one. |
| 17:04.05 | trh | Detecting trace amounts of mental activity. Possibly a dead weasel or a cartoon viewer. |
| 17:04.14 | kenlyric | I like the double one better,. |
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| 17:06.42 | sbu | trh: and what if your BM pet dies? |
| 17:07.12 | trh | sbu: i'm not bm, but you can ress it pretty fast as BM (if specced) |
| 17:07.23 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: ping |
| 17:07.35 | Queequeg | can someone explain why the ace2 cpu usage would jump from 1.2% to ~5% whenever i use sunder? |
| 17:07.50 | Dionne | 6s rez |
| 17:08.14 | Queequeg | doesnt happen if i use demo shout/thunder clap |
| 17:08.16 | trh | Dionne: 4s |
| 17:08.28 | trh | Dionne: you get -6s iirc |
| 17:10.07 | Antiarc|Work | Queequeg: Can you provide a list of addons you're using? |
| 17:10.13 | Dionne | 4s? I confused it with demo lock's summon then :D |
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| 17:11.41 | trh | Dionne: at least rank1 of improved revive pet is -3s, so i'm guessing rank 2 is -6s (just looked :) |
| 17:11.43 | Wobin_ | yeah reduced by 6seconds |
| 17:11.51 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 17:12.04 | Wobin_ | which is pretty damn fast |
| 17:12.13 | trh | but the biggest damage boost in the BM tree is 20% ranged attack speed |
| 17:12.28 | Wobin_ | Serpent Swiftness |
| 17:12.32 | Wobin_ | <3 SS |
| 17:12.32 | trh | which is very very nice with slower bows because you get them fast enough for a nice steady/auto rotation |
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| 17:12.52 | Wobin_ | then there's the IWIN button |
| 17:12.58 | Wobin_ | + Rapidfire |
| 17:13.07 | trh | versus squishies |
| 17:13.21 | Wobin_ | Plus Ferocious Inspiration |
| 17:13.38 | Antiarc|Work | 17 sec on BW is just insane. |
| 17:13.39 | jme | plus hourglass |
| 17:13.40 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: pong |
| 17:13.44 | Queequeg | Antiarc|Work, that'd be a pretty long list |
| 17:13.50 | Wobin_ | 18seconde |
| 17:13.52 | Dionne | BM hunters might kill me when they use BM... but I kill them from the grave! >:D |
| 17:13.53 | Iceroth | not to mention intimidation (with a pet that can charge), zzz |
| 17:14.11 | Antiarc|Work | Queequeg: Well, it's hard to debug ace-driven mods without a list, since they share libraries, and any ace mod can be responsible for that |
| 17:14.35 | Wobin_ | Actually the fact that BW+TBW is on a 1 minute cooldown is ... scary =) |
| 17:14.36 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42520 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 17:14.36 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 17:14.36 | CIA-22 | - Fixes a number of FixCasing problems. |
| 17:14.37 | Antiarc|Work | Wobin_: WTB Master of Deception increasing CloS's duration by 3/6/9/12/15 sec. >_> |
| 17:14.50 | Dionne | 1min? wasn't it at 2min? o_O |
| 17:14.55 | jme | Wobin_: 2 minutes for BW, 1 minute for intimidation |
| 17:14.56 | Wobin_ | CloS is also on a one minute cooldown, isn't it? |
| 17:14.57 | Dionne | when did they change it? |
| 17:15.00 | Dionne | ahh nvm then :D |
| 17:15.02 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i was getting this errors, i think the second is caused by the first .. but dont ask me why http://ace.pastey.net/70219 |
| 17:15.04 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, 1 minute cooldown |
| 17:15.10 | Wobin_ | oh you're right, two minutes |
| 17:15.17 | Antiarc|Work | 5 sec duration |
| 17:15.29 | jme | just long enough to kill a clothie |
| 17:15.31 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 17:15.39 | Dionne | zomg antiarc! tell me how to hide that "..." omen icon!! |
| 17:15.39 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i think it fails in the OnInit, and thus doesnt have db in OnEnable .. but i couldnt figure out why :( |
| 17:15.42 | Wobin_ | well a defenseless clothie =) |
| 17:15.43 | Antiarc|Work | Eh, not always. Definitely long enough to get a clothie to bounce a fear off of you though. |
| 17:15.50 | Antiarc|Work | Dionne: What "..." icon? |
| 17:16.02 | jme | Antiarc|Work: not if you've popped BW ;) |
| 17:16.05 | Dionne | that f... damn icon on my minimap! |
| 17:16.11 | Antiarc|Work | Aaaah :) |
| 17:16.21 | durcyn | Dionne: move it to FuBar, duh. |
| 17:16.22 | Antiarc|Work | Looking into it. It's a Fubar_Plugin setting somewhere. |
| 17:16.22 | Wobin_ | jme: Not if you're a rogue =) |
| 17:16.28 | Dionne | I don't have any space left around and its just overlapping some useful button! |
| 17:16.34 | Antiarc|Work | I was doing some arena last night, and we ran into some 1400-something team. I killed their mage in literally three hits. |
| 17:16.35 | jme | Wobin_: yeah, vanish / cloak of shadows > me |
| 17:16.43 | Antiarc|Work | It was pretty amazing how little HP he had. |
| 17:16.48 | Antiarc|Work | He just...vaporized. |
| 17:16.54 | Wobin_ | *Fwomph* |
| 17:16.55 | jme | Antiarc|Work: i only have like 8.1k hp :( |
| 17:16.57 | trh | rogue got pretty tough when they gave them effect removing stuff and clos |
| 17:16.59 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 17:17.03 | Antiarc|Work | jme: This mage had to have had no more than 5k. |
| 17:17.05 | Antiarc|Work | In the arena. |
| 17:17.06 | durcyn | mages make my felhunter laugh |
| 17:17.09 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ouch |
| 17:17.11 | Dionne | thats why I get into LoS when I see a hunter popping TBW |
| 17:17.18 | Dionne | then I draintank the pet :O |
| 17:17.25 | jme | finally got my veteran's chain bracers last night |
| 17:17.32 | jme | next up = boots hopefully this weekend |
| 17:17.43 | jme | unless i get the boots from kara sooner |
| 17:18.05 | trh | i saving arena points for the 2h merciless axe :( |
| 17:18.08 | trh | so many points |
| 17:18.20 | Antiarc|Work | I got weapons last season, and am saving for armor this season. |
| 17:18.28 | Antiarc|Work | My shoulders have 63 stam on them :O |
| 17:18.34 | jme | wow. |
| 17:18.35 | Antiarc|Work | I'm running close to 11k HP in arena matches |
| 17:18.36 | Antiarc|Work | It's awesome |
| 17:18.52 | jme | freaking hunter on my realm has 12k hp with s1 gear |
| 17:18.58 | Dionne | there is a way to delete some line or delete the graphics, or ... idk, maybe make the button appear below my other buttons, Antiarc|Work? |
| 17:19.11 | Dionne | some hunter in my realm claims he has 15.3k hp fully buffed |
| 17:19.12 | Queequeg | Antiarc|Work, could you query me? im not registered... |
| 17:19.20 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r42521 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: Added zhTW translation for Hydross.lua(incomplete) |
| 17:19.20 | durcyn | Dionne: omen's fubar plugin should support HideWithoutStandby |
| 17:19.24 | Antiarc|Work | Queequeg: I can, but you can't reply if you aren't registered |
| 17:19.30 | Antiarc|Work | Just paste a list of mods to ace.pastey.net |
| 17:19.35 | trh | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=Vane <- my huntard :) |
| 17:20.16 | Dionne | how do I, ehm, execute such a thing dur? :D |
| 17:20.20 | Dionne | durcyn* |
| 17:20.24 | jme | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil <- mine |
| 17:20.28 | durcyn | Dionne: right click, "Hide Plugin"? |
| 17:20.37 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think that's set, durcyn |
| 17:20.43 | durcyn | oh. |
| 17:20.43 | Antiarc|Work | I'll add it now, Dionne. |
| 17:20.46 | Dionne | there's no option as that - do I have to install some Fubar addon? |
| 17:21.01 | Dionne | I just discovered Omen yesterday :O |
| 17:21.17 | Queequeg | Antiarc|Work, http://ace.pastey.net/70221 |
| 17:21.17 | Dionne | woot for multi mob threat tracking, I can mass dot with confidence now :O |
| 17:21.31 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: 'hideWithoutStandby' should be the syntax |
| 17:21.37 | trh | jme: your blue ring kinda sucks =) |
| 17:21.38 | durcyn | sans first word capitalization |
| 17:21.41 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: Yup, just pulled it up |
| 17:21.46 | jme | trh: quest reward, yes |
| 17:22.01 | jme | trh: from some quest in BM |
| 17:22.02 | trh | jem: get conquerors band, quest reward too |
| 17:22.18 | jme | trh: i'm waiting for garona's signet ring |
| 17:22.25 | jme | trh: and the ring of a thousand marks |
| 17:22.36 | trh | jme: ring of thousand marks = awesome :) |
| 17:22.54 | jme | yeah |
| 17:23.53 | RogueShadow | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azshara&n=Xelis <-- My highest level char. And my favorite so far. |
| 17:24.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42522 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Add .hideWithoutStandby |
| 17:24.13 | trh | jme: you should get the masters treads until you get the fiend slayer boots :) |
| 17:24.40 | trh | jme: only cost like 100g and are pretty good |
| 17:24.44 | jme | trh: i'm going to pvp for the veteran's boots |
| 17:24.46 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42523 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: TagCompiler-1.0: Another FixCasing fix. |
| 17:24.51 | trh | jme: ah.. ok :) |
| 17:24.59 | Antiarc|Work | Queequeg: I don't see anything in that list that looks like it might be causing your problem. You might need to try disabling addons until you find the culprit. |
| 17:25.40 | sbu | hm wowace broken again |
| 17:25.46 | trh | jme: i don't get why so many BM hunters skill spirit bond |
| 17:25.50 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 17:25.51 | Wobin_ | http://whatcraft.blogspot.com/2007/06/survivalism.html |
| 17:25.59 | Wobin_ | interesting write up on survival huntering |
| 17:26.15 | trh | problem with SV is that you need fitting equipment with lots'a agi :( |
| 17:26.25 | RogueShadow | sbu: That would explain why WAU is having such a hard time. o.O |
| 17:26.49 | jme | trh: good question |
| 17:26.58 | jme | trh: i think i just didn't see anything better to put it in at the time |
| 17:27.24 | trh | jme: animal handler |
| 17:27.28 | trh | jme: hitchance for pet :) |
| 17:27.30 | Queequeg | Antiarc|Work, ok actually it was not sunder, but a macro that uses sunder |
| 17:27.55 | Queequeg | when i use sunder from the spellbook, nothing special happens |
| 17:28.01 | Cryect | whats your macro doing? |
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| 17:29.47 | Wobin_ | trh: YEah I have it too... I'm so going to have to respec out of it |
| 17:29.52 | Funkeh` | is committing going generally slow for everyone today? |
| 17:29.54 | Wobin_ | Not really worth it at all |
| 17:30.13 | Cryect | Funkeh`: seemed normal an hour ago |
| 17:30.19 | Wobin_ | trh: Although that survival hunter post sounds interesting |
| 17:30.46 | RogueShadow | Funkeh`: WAU is going ridiculously slow |
| 17:30.53 | RogueShadow | Funkeh`: related maybe? |
| 17:31.00 | Funkeh` | 'could not connect to server' |
| 17:31.04 | Funkeh` | hmn |
| 17:31.14 | RogueShadow | Some of my updates failed it says |
| 17:31.17 | RogueShadow | first time I ever saw taht |
| 17:31.28 | RogueShadow | And it took more than 10x as long |
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| 17:31.49 | Queequeg | Cryect, cast sunder in combat, else combat stance |
| 17:31.50 | Cryect | files.wowace.com seems slow but svn.wowace.com seems fine |
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| 17:32.31 | jme | trh: i wonder if i should get beastial discipline instead |
| 17:32.33 | Cryect | Queequeg: Strange that would result in Ace2 jumping up, curious to see what events that triggers |
| 17:32.38 | Cryect | will have to test that later |
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| 17:32.41 | trh | Wobin_: interesting yes, for 2v2 and 3v3 survival might be useful |
| 17:32.58 | Wobin_ | the perpetual trapping might be ... annoying in pvp =P |
| 17:33.02 | Funkeh` | dev.wowace im using |
| 17:33.06 | Antiarc|Work | Annoying doesn't begin to describe it. |
| 17:33.08 | Wobin_ | although there's always a chance to break out of traps? |
| 17:33.11 | Wobin_ | (is there?) |
| 17:33.13 | durcyn | Wobin_: hungry hungry felhunter > traps |
| 17:33.16 | trh | Cryect: need debug-ace2 that tracks memory usage of events ^^ |
| 17:33.21 | durcyn | freezing is still a magic, yes? |
| 17:33.21 | jme | Wobin_: medallion / insignia |
| 17:33.21 | Antiarc|Work | Expo. |
| 17:33.39 | trh | Antiarc|Work: doesn't track memory usage done by ace2's triggerevents |
| 17:33.48 | Antiarc|Work | Oh. Well maybe it should. >_> |
| 17:33.53 | Cryect | Expo doesn't work for triggers |
| 17:34.47 | trh | maybe expo could hook and safehook all registered events from the addon to watch |
| 17:34.52 | Wobin_ | night all |
| 17:34.54 | trh | and record memory usage before and after |
| 17:34.56 | Cryect | Funkeh`: yeah something is wrong with dev.wowace.com, pings fine |
| 17:35.32 | jme | trh: does imp hunter's mark affect party members? |
| 17:35.42 | jme | trh: wrt the melee attack power |
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| 17:35.51 | trh | jme: yep, but the stacking effect doesn't apply to meelee |
| 17:35.55 | jme | ah |
| 17:36.11 | trh | jme: so they only get 110ap, even if you get 440 |
| 17:36.16 | trh | that's why i didn't skilled it |
| 17:36.20 | jme | yeah |
| 17:36.32 | Antiarc|Work | +440 AP to melee would be amazing |
| 17:36.40 | Antiarc|Work | My rogue could break 4K HP briefly with that. :O |
| 17:36.42 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 17:36.43 | Antiarc|Work | 4k AP |
| 17:36.49 | trh | it would be nice if you raid 24/7 and are the only hunter with it |
| 17:36.52 | jme | Antiarc|Work: wow |
| 17:37.22 | jme | trh: well, we only take one hunter to kara at a time and have three on rotation, so i don't go all the time |
| 17:37.24 | RogueShadow | I have a rogue.... my highest guy is a rogue. only lvl 37 tho |
| 17:37.37 | Antiarc|Work | Unleashed Rage + Windfury + double Mongoose + Battleshout + Blessing of Might + Strength of Earth + Trueshot Aura + GotW + Kings = holycrap AP |
| 17:37.45 | RogueShadow | 37 rogue, 32 pally, 22 hunter, 21 lock. 10 warrior. |
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| 17:38.02 | trh | jme: then it's not really worth it... we take up to three, but it's rarely all 3 hunters want to go to kara at the same time =) |
| 17:38.12 | jme | trh: ah |
| 17:38.29 | jme | trh: they like shackles more than traps =/ |
| 17:39.02 | trh | jme: tsss.. losers :) we did moroes without a single priest, only with me chain trapping one add and having paladin fear it when it resisted :) |
| 17:39.06 | Wobin_ | normal hunters mark RAP stacks? |
| 17:39.14 | trh | Wobin_: yeah, every shot adds a few rap |
| 17:39.18 | jme | trh: heh |
| 17:39.19 | trh | Wobin_: up to 440 i think |
| 17:39.23 | Wobin_ | crazy |
| 17:39.31 | jme | Wobin_: since patch before last iirc |
| 17:39.33 | pakoz | is it supposed to be like that? |
| 17:39.33 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc|Work: ever tanked the green beam at netherspite (when you were still doing kara? ^^) |
| 17:39.38 | jme | pakoz: it is now |
| 17:39.44 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: All the time :) |
| 17:39.54 | Antiarc|Work | (Do you mean Blue though?) |
| 17:39.57 | pakoz | i tanked it on my warrior, does that count ;x |
| 17:40.03 | Gnarfoz | I meant green |
| 17:40.11 | Antiarc|Work | I act as a backstop for the green beam, since...well, I don't have mana |
| 17:40.13 | Wobin_ | jme: I haven't noticed =) |
| 17:40.21 | Wobin_ | I don't normally watch my RAP that closely in combat |
| 17:40.23 | Gnarfoz | free sinister strikes |
| 17:40.27 | Antiarc|Work | Oh? |
| 17:40.29 | Antiarc|Work | How's that work? |
| 17:40.37 | Gnarfoz | did 1700dps that way yesterday ;D |
| 17:40.51 | pakoz | it reduces the cost of your abilities by x amount |
| 17:40.55 | Gnarfoz | green beam reduces ability costs, works for mana classes and rogues, not rage based classes, though |
| 17:40.59 | Antiarc|Work | Oooooooh. |
| 17:41.01 | trh | but i heard hunter's mark rap stacking is buggy |
| 17:41.03 | Gnarfoz | awesome xD |
| 17:41.03 | Antiarc|Work | I did not know that. |
| 17:41.08 | Wobin_ | ^^ |
| 17:41.09 | Leadhead | It's buggy in a good way |
| 17:41.11 | Gnarfoz | spamming ss to the max |
| 17:41.15 | trh | it's said that it only adds the rap for the hunter that casted the mark |
| 17:41.18 | Leadhead | you can stack it then reapply the HM and keep the stacked RAP |
| 17:41.18 | trh | not for the other ones :( |
| 17:41.40 | Wobin_ | Leadhead: So once you hit 440, you recast |
| 17:41.45 | trh | Leadhead: actually i think *that* is intended |
| 17:41.45 | Leadhead | yep |
| 17:41.49 | Leadhead | oh |
| 17:41.55 | Leadhead | I hope you are not right Trancer |
| 17:41.56 | Leadhead | trh |
| 17:41.59 | trh | Leadhead: it was different on the ptr - there you couldn't apply it again |
| 17:42.01 | Leadhead | I am going to kill my other guild hunter |
| 17:42.26 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 17:42.27 | trh | Leadhead: you can check what youre arcane shots do at beginning of hunters mark and what at the end |
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| 17:42.31 | Gnarfoz | WAU 1.9 still crashing a lot |
| 17:42.33 | Tornhoof | hmm sraidframes does not load castcom anymore? |
| 17:42.39 | Leadhead | yeah not a bad idea |
| 17:42.54 | trh | Leadhead: couldn't check it yet.. didn't raided much in the last weeks |
| 17:43.31 | jme | i want http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31966 |
| 17:43.31 | Leadhead | I will be sure to check it out |
| 17:43.38 | Leadhead | I hope it's not true |
| 17:43.39 | jme | i might do arena just for that if nothing else |
| 17:43.54 | Leadhead | the other hunter has imp hm meaning he'd always get the buff :o |
| 17:44.05 | trh | Leadhead: lol ^^ |
| 17:44.05 | Tornhoof | ping nevcairiel |
| 17:44.20 | trh | Leadhead: just try it out... i just read it a few times, so it might be BS |
| 17:44.30 | Leadhead | fair enough |
| 17:44.41 | RaydenUni | DrDamage shows you your meta damage for spells, anything like that for other classes? |
| 17:44.45 | RaydenUni | rogues for example? |
| 17:45.15 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42524 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: only register Void Reavers Knock Away, should fix the problem with timers appearing on trash ;/ |
| 17:45.16 | Leadhead | I want http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31960 |
| 17:45.18 | Leadhead | right now thx |
| 17:45.22 | trh | Leadhead: but i believe that blizzard could f* something like that up big time... we all know how "good" there QA is ;) |
| 17:45.30 | Leadhead | oh for sure they could |
| 17:45.44 | trh | Leadhead: got that one right on the first day of season 2 :) |
| 17:45.54 | trh | i'm waitng for the darkmoon faire |
| 17:45.55 | Leadhead | :( |
| 17:46.01 | trh | to get darkmoon card: crusade and madness :) |
| 17:46.07 | dylanm | RaydenUni: You could try TheoryCraft, but I don't think it's been updated in some time. |
| 17:46.11 | Leadhead | nice nice |
| 17:46.16 | Leadhead | I am a nub pvper |
| 17:46.27 | Leadhead | combination of bad ping, bad battle group and average pve gear |
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| 17:47.06 | trh | omg... someone in the trade channel asked for "12 stam on buts" ;) |
| 17:47.21 | trh | (on a german server - boots are spoken a littlebit like buts" ;) |
| 17:47.24 | Gnarfoz | don't you play on a german realm? |
| 17:47.34 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 17:47.37 | Gnarfoz | what? :D |
| 17:47.40 | trh | Gnarfoz: yeah.. but he still wrote 12stamina and buts |
| 17:47.47 | Gnarfoz | lol ok |
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| 17:47.51 | trh | Gnarfoz: only the "on" was german ;) |
| 17:48.04 | Gnarfoz | heh yeah I can see teh funny now :> |
| 17:48.21 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 17:48.28 | trh | i wonder if i should offer him my nice orcish butt ;) |
| 17:48.30 | jme | he lost sight of the funny |
| 17:48.36 | Gnarfoz | I'll try wau2 just because wau keeps crashing now |
| 17:48.49 | Queequeg | Antiarc|Work, Cryect, ok thanks, i watched all events, but had to disable prat because it spammed really long messages, so i could read the other events. well, after disabling prat ace2 sits there peacefully... |
| 17:48.55 | Gnarfoz | hope it didn't eat any addons yet |
| 17:49.01 | dylanm | I can't get WAU2 to work on my Mac. All it does is ask for permissions and exit. |
| 17:49.15 | jme | dylanm: where is the mac download link? |
| 17:49.20 | NightHawkAtWork | Blarg. I seriously hate mondays. |
| 17:49.26 | trh | ~wau2 |
| 17:49.27 | purl | hmm... wau2 is wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:49.34 | dylanm | jme: I figured that since it's a java app it would be the same download. |
| 17:49.40 | Mikk | indeed |
| 17:49.50 | jme | ah |
| 17:49.53 | Gnarfoz | purl, no, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:49.54 | purl | okay, Gnarfoz |
| 17:49.54 | jme | didn't know that until now :) |
| 17:50.01 | Gnarfoz | ~wau2 |
| 17:50.01 | purl | wau2 is, like, http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:50.04 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 17:50.06 | trh | you might wanna talk about your problem with KarlThePagan on #wau or so =) |
| 17:50.10 | jme | dylanm: downloading it now, i'll test it |
| 17:50.15 | Mikk | if it ain't working, kaelten borked something. /join #wau and prod him |
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| 17:50.19 | Mikk | or karl |
| 17:50.41 | Kaelten | server is lagging because I'm running some stats |
| 17:50.43 | dylanm | Anyone else on a Mac and having this thing work? |
| 17:50.55 | dylanm | I assume that the actual client download is very thin. |
| 17:50.58 | Kaelten | dylanm: mac support is bugged atm |
| 17:51.02 | Gnarfoz | seriously, wowhead's filters are the most awesome of their features |
| 17:51.31 | jme | the only thing i don't like about wowhead, is if you use the ajax sort, it doesn't "remember" if you go to another page and back |
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| 17:51.50 | jme | it also doesn't remember what page you were on :/ |
| 17:51.59 | Gnarfoz | guess it can't do that |
| 17:52.04 | Gnarfoz | just use tabs anyway :> |
| 17:52.08 | Gnarfoz | middle clicking links ftw :D |
| 17:52.15 | dylanm | Gnarfoz: Yeah I love wowhead. The JS menus sometimes bug out for me, though. And the links are also hooked up with JS so even if you try to open in a new tab you also get the linked page in the original tab. |
| 17:52.29 | Gnarfoz | hm, which links behave like that for you? |
| 17:52.35 | dylanm | All of zem. |
| 17:52.39 | jme | i noticed that too |
| 17:52.40 | Gnarfoz | haven't that happen to me, yet, and perhaps that's also fixable |
| 17:52.54 | jme | dylanm: using safari? |
| 17:53.00 | Gnarfoz | how do you open in a new tab? |
| 17:53.06 | Gnarfoz | modifier key + left button? |
| 17:53.07 | jme | i command click |
| 17:53.16 | dylanm | jme: Yeah -.- it's fast and I lurrrv the new search on the new beta. |
| 17:53.28 | jme | dylanm: ah, i haven't tried the beta yet |
| 17:53.32 | Gnarfoz | < firefox |
| 17:53.37 | dylanm | jme: It seems like Camino is kinda stagnant at the moment. |
| 17:54.43 | Gnarfoz | should I get an Essence Focusser (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25759) just to get some more +heal (got that nagrand arena quest thing: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25759) |
| 17:54.54 | Gnarfoz | err first link should be http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31304 |
| 17:55.16 | Tornhoof | ping saroz |
| 17:55.24 | *** join/#wowace NightHawkAtWork (n=nighthaw@static-71-121-241-67.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 17:55.31 | Ominous | please can someone say "Ominous" |
| 17:55.34 | trh | Gnarfoz: you get a essence focusser for like 20g on our server =) |
| 17:55.38 | Leadhead | omega_ |
| 17:55.40 | Leadhead | Ominous |
| 17:55.41 | Leadhead | far out. |
| 17:55.45 | Gnarfoz | heh, is about 100 on mine, I guess |
| 17:55.45 | Leadhead | I'm just a failure today ;_; |
| 17:55.53 | trh | Gnarfoz: i usually let them disenchant for the shard because they are so f* worthless |
| 17:56.03 | trh | Gnarfoz: friend of mine got 3 on his bank ;) |
| 17:56.10 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 17:56.16 | Gnarfoz | need x-server trading |
| 17:56.25 | Leadhead | if only |
| 17:56.38 | Saroz | Tornhoof |
| 17:56.38 | NeoTron | So Fathom-Lord is a bit tricky. we have yet to get all three adds down. heh |
| 17:56.50 | jme | Gnarfoz: attempt to join bg's until you get matched up? :) |
| 17:56.51 | Tornhoof | see query saroz |
| 17:56.58 | Gnarfoz | jme: and then? xD |
| 17:57.00 | trh | jme: can't trade there |
| 17:57.04 | jme | oh |
| 17:57.09 | Gnarfoz | indeed. :P only conjured items |
| 17:57.10 | jme | never tried :x |
| 17:57.17 | Gnarfoz | also, wrong battlegroup, I guess |
| 17:57.39 | trh | i wonder if enchanting/opening lockboxes might be possible |
| 17:58.11 | trh | Gnarfoz: blutdurst :) |
| 17:58.11 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r42525 10sRaidFrames/ (embeds.xml sRaidFrames.toc): sRaidFrames: Add castcomm to toc, and remove from embeds.xml |
| 17:58.11 | jme | rampage \o/ |
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| 17:58.24 | Gnarfoz | trh: of course, aegwynn ^^... I'm in Raserei now :\ |
| 17:58.52 | trh | Gnarfoz: too bad ^^ |
| 17:59.01 | Gnarfoz | got my ud warrior on aegwynn, tho xD |
| 17:59.12 | trh | i wonder.. what's the big advantage of embeds.xml, except that it's easier too delete if you use non-externals? |
| 17:59.23 | trh | is the loading time faster with .xml if it doesn't find the lua files? |
| 17:59.41 | Kalman| | Isn't embeds.xml the fix for disembedded load problems with non-existent files in the TOC? |
| 17:59.54 | dylanm | I had forgotten how boring Paladin leveling is... your two main offensive abilities are just random procs. |
| 18:00.05 | trh | yeah, but they still get tried to loaded when the embeds.xml is there, or? |
| 18:00.12 | Gnarfoz | both correct, since the "problem" is the speed because the errors on not found files take time |
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| 18:00.32 | Gnarfoz | trh: no, because in disembedded mode, the zipscript cleans out the embeds.xml file |
| 18:00.40 | Gnarfoz | there's nothing in there |
| 18:00.55 | trh | Gnarfoz: ah, so wowace.com deletes it automatically.. guess i'll switch too then :) |
| 18:00.55 | Gnarfoz | or rather, no script file references, just begin and end tags |
| 18:00.58 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42526 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 18:00.58 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 18:00.58 | CIA-22 | - Minor fixups/tweaks |
| 18:01.00 | jme | so is everyone using Parrot now? |
| 18:01.12 | Gnarfoz | guess not? it's an infant animal, still :> |
| 18:01.28 | Gnarfoz | sct is by far the most robust one :> |
| 18:01.42 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42527 10Assessment/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:01.42 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 18:01.42 | CIA-22 | - Takes advantage of newer TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 18:01.44 | Gnarfoz | gonna give it a spin though, because ckk's addons tend to be most awesome :> |
| 18:01.54 | trh | and most buggy :P |
| 18:02.00 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42528 10Aloft/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:02.00 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 18:02.00 | CIA-22 | - Takes advantage of newer TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 18:02.08 | trh | ... at least for a while after they come out |
| 18:02.20 | trh | but his libraries are rock-solid :) |
| 18:03.39 | Kaelten | I just wish he would code shorter stuff |
| 18:03.47 | Kaelten | his style lends to really long code segments |
| 18:03.53 | phyber | PitBull has lost the ability to understand which modules are loaded. |
| 18:04.01 | phyber | Portraits = disabled = DO NOT SHOW PORTRAITS |
| 18:04.18 | trh | Kaelten: sometimes yes, i really dislike the "something and something[xxx] and something[xxx][yyy] and and and or nil" ;) |
| 18:04.30 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:04.31 | trh | Kaelten: even though i use it in a limited way myself ;) |
| 18:04.48 | evl | I've had problems with Banzai module before |
| 18:04.49 | Kaelten | I like the ternary style for a lot of things |
| 18:04.59 | evl | it's the only module that doesn't remember it's enalbed state afaik |
| 18:05.05 | Kaelten | I dont want tif have to go if y then x = y else x = 'bob' end |
| 18:05.09 | Kaelten | x = y or 'bob' |
| 18:05.12 | Kaelten | is much nicer |
| 18:05.32 | trh | Kaelten: yeah, for short stuff its nice, but when it reaches like 5 'ands' it gets kinda messy ;) |
| 18:05.59 | Kaelten | ya I can agree there |
| 18:06.16 | Kaelten | but I in general prefere them as compared to having a if statement for one line |
| 18:06.50 | trh | i wish i could just write sth like myarray[xxx][yyy][zzz] or nil and it would give back nil if even one lookup of tables fail |
| 18:06.58 | trh | but instead it gives a nil index error |
| 18:07.25 | RogueShadow | phyber: I know it shouldn't be this way, but I think reloading your ui will fix that... :) |
| 18:07.42 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: can i focus Omen on one target? as a healer and raidleader, i sometimes switch so fast targets, that omen is going crazy, can i set it to a specific target? |
| 18:07.48 | Kaelten | trh: ya and metatables for that can get buggy |
| 18:07.51 | Josh_Borke | oh man |
| 18:07.52 | RogueShadow | lol,, when in doubt, restart ot reload. that's sad. |
| 18:07.54 | Josh_Borke | nev is a raid leader |
| 18:07.57 | Josh_Borke | everyone run and hide |
| 18:08.44 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:08.52 | RogueShadow | I like Assessment. Anybody else been trying it? |
| 18:09.09 | phyber | RogueShadow: nah, it doesn't fix it. PitBull insists on enabling the module. |
| 18:09.14 | phyber | I might just delete the files for now. |
| 18:09.44 | RogueShadow | Yeah, if that doesn't work.... we got some possession problems |
| 18:09.49 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: you've got a typo in your X-Category of cgProfiler |
| 18:10.06 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: lol, next time |
| 18:10.10 | Kaelten | I commit I'll have to fix it |
| 18:10.45 | Gnarfoz | just turned on wau2's by-category mode and that kind of stood out ^^ |
| 18:12.18 | Gnarfoz | would it be ok to run rampant a bit and change some addon's categories so they fit into the bigger ones (like "Interface" (2 addons) vs. "Interface Enhancements" (several dozen))? |
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| 18:13.10 | Kaelten | there is a new pre-commit script that guarentees a valid value right there |
| 18:13.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but what's valid? or rather: there's addons on the svn that maybe won't be commited to anymore but they are still in some category of their own |
| 18:14.14 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 18:14.51 | trh | commits are a bit slow atm |
| 18:14.56 | Xuerian | I was going to say. |
| 18:14.57 | Gnarfoz | of course, committing to them again, to change their category, will enforce the category (if the .toc is modified, anyhow) |
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| 18:15.10 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r42529 10XLoot/localization.deDE.lua: XLoot: Adding full German translation (Thanks to Omicron) |
| 18:15.15 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42530 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.toc embeds.xml): VanasKoS: switched to embeds.xml |
| 18:15.28 | Gnarfoz | trh, Xuerian: <@Kaelten> server is lagging because I'm running some stats <-- if that's still the case ^^ |
| 18:15.35 | trh | ah.. ok :) |
| 18:15.44 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r42531 10XLootGroup/ (XLootGroup.toc localization.deDE.lua): XLootGroup: Adding full German translation (Thanks to Omicron) |
| 18:15.49 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r42532 10XLootMaster/ (XLootMaster.toc localization.deDE.lua): XLootMaster: Adding full German translation (Thanks to Omicron) |
| 18:15.59 | trh | right.. it's time for june's stats :) |
| 18:16.08 | Kaelten | 25990 root 18 0 882m 849m 1176 D 46 41.9 37:40.00 python |
| 18:16.09 | Kaelten | :s |
| 18:16.24 | Kaelten | ya I'm running june's usage stats |
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| 18:16.37 | Funkeh` | thats some lag |
| 18:16.37 | Kaelten | this script needs a data storage mech I'm thinking |
| 18:16.44 | Kaelten | its using up 41% of memory |
| 18:16.55 | Funkeh` | its supposed to make new files on the hour, 20min later its still not done :D |
| 18:16.57 | Gnarfoz | whoa, what kind of amout of data is that processing for it taking so long? |
| 18:17.01 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r42533 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.lua XLootMonitor.toc localization.deDE.lua): XLootMonitor: Adding full German translation (Thanks to Omicron) |
| 18:17.14 | Gnarfoz | s/taking/to take/ |
| 18:17.16 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: a months worth of squid logs |
| 18:17.25 | Gnarfoz | are they... verbose? |
| 18:17.33 | Kaelten | few million lines a peice |
| 18:17.39 | Gnarfoz | ...shit |
| 18:17.42 | Kaelten | yep |
| 18:17.42 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:17.53 | Kaelten | and its racking up data in memory |
| 18:18.04 | Kaelten | the files themselve get pushed out of memory as they're read |
| 18:18.08 | trh | i got a solution: get more memory :P |
| 18:18.13 | Kaelten | its the stats that are eating up ram |
| 18:18.21 | Kaelten | trh: working on that as well. but this is right now. |
| 18:18.31 | trh | how much you got right now? |
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| 18:18.57 | Ominous | ~seen phyber |
| 18:18.59 | purl | phyber is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 9m 45s, last said: 'I might just delete the files for now.'. |
| 18:19.20 | Gnarfoz | hm, the stats page seemed quite simple regarding the amout of detail given... can't imagine how that's taking so much processing time and memory? hm |
| 18:19.41 | trh | Gnarfoz: you have to figure out unique users |
| 18:19.49 | trh | Gnarfoz: tracking users based on ip |
| 18:19.53 | Gnarfoz | ah, ergh |
| 18:19.56 | trh | Gnarfoz: means: save all ip's :/ |
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| 18:23.10 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42534 10Violation/locales/deDE.lua: Violation: deDE correction |
| 18:24.06 | PProvost | Hey [Ammo], I've got a module for Violation that does "Effective Healing" ala SWStats. Should I check it in as its own addon, into Violation or mail it to you. It is really simple. |
| 18:24.28 | Funkeh` | it already has effective healing? |
| 18:24.48 | PProvost | Didn't see it. Perhaps we mean something different. |
| 18:24.57 | PProvost | SWS Effective Healing doesn't include OOC healing. |
| 18:24.57 | Funkeh` | the healing module is effective |
| 18:25.02 | Funkeh` | the overhealing module is non |
| 18:25.27 | PProvost | As far as I can tell the Healing Module includes OOC healing, right? |
| 18:25.36 | Funkeh` | i think so |
| 18:25.49 | PProvost | SWS Effective Healing does not. And that's what my priests asked for. |
| 18:26.01 | PProvost | So, how would you guys like me to share it? |
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| 18:26.26 | Funkeh` | oh i don't work on vio you need to get in touch with [Ammo] / vhaarr_ :P |
| 18:26.43 | PProvost | Hence my original ask eh? |
| 18:27.06 | Funkeh` | i think it makes more sense to make it an option |
| 18:27.09 | Funkeh` | not a module |
| 18:27.30 | PProvost | Either way. I don't care. It is an adoption blocker for my guild. |
| 18:28.04 | PProvost | vhaarr_, do you care? |
| 18:28.39 | [Ammo] | it's the wrong solution for a bigger problem |
| 18:29.12 | [Ammo] | the idea is to have some smarter resetting on violation, and some perfight etc data storage |
| 18:29.29 | [Ammo] | that should give you the correct data on a per fight basis ignoring OOC healing |
| 18:29.46 | durcyn | you just described Assessment |
| 18:29.47 | Hjalte | How do i find out if i have Directx installed? |
| 18:29.59 | durcyn | Hjalte: are you running windows? |
| 18:30.03 | Hjalte | Yeah |
| 18:30.04 | durcyn | Hjalte: you have directx installed. |
| 18:30.32 | [Ammo] | durcyn: I did not describe assessment |
| 18:30.33 | Kirkburn|afk | For more specific info, go to Run, type dxdiag |
| 18:30.47 | [Ammo] | there's a major difference in data detail stored by assessment and violation |
| 18:30.48 | Gnarfoz | that's not quite correct, included installs are not always completely usable - and out of date, anyway :> |
| 18:31.04 | Kirkburn|afk | If you have WinXP, you want DX9.0c |
| 18:31.09 | PProvost | So, absent any other guidance, I'm gonna checkin a new mod called Violation_EffectiveHealing tonight. |
| 18:31.11 | durcyn | [Ammo]: the combat tracking and save sets, i meant |
| 18:31.14 | Kirkburn|afk | If you have Vista you will have 9.0L and 10 |
| 18:31.39 | Punkie` | Ammo |
| 18:31.52 | Punkie` | You need to fix Violation's pet handling :P |
| 18:32.10 | [Ammo] | fix it yourself |
| 18:32.11 | Punkie` | Atomos has a pet called Tooty, which mean's Tooty's damage done gets added to him :P |
| 18:32.19 | Punkie` | if i touch it, i break it and you dont like it :P |
| 18:32.20 | Gnarfoz | PProvost: good solution for all. it can still be included in Violation proper if and when a time for that comes ;) |
| 18:32.24 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 18:32.30 | [Ammo] | atomos should name his pet different |
| 18:32.32 | [Ammo] | problem solved |
| 18:32.37 | [Ammo] | fucking moron hunters |
| 18:33.02 | Gnarfoz | I concur. |
| 18:33.02 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 18:33.06 | Codayus | Agreed. |
| 18:33.09 | Punkie` | damn, ammo |
| 18:33.18 | Punkie` | you are much nicer when you are horny :P |
| 18:33.21 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 18:33.27 | durcyn | i used to have a hunter that would name his bear after the main tank. i stopped inviting him to raids. |
| 18:33.28 | [Ammo] | I've got quite a fever |
| 18:33.35 | [Ammo] | going back to bed now |
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| 18:33.41 | Gnarfoz | http://www.geektour.de/~simbabque/pics/DSC00926.JPG damn, I envy my mate xD dual screen, two wow's running, facing himself with two char's on different accounts ;D (a bit blurry :\) |
| 18:34.01 | *** join/#wowace mitch1 (n=mitch@dsl85-238-66-247.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 18:34.05 | mitch1 | yo |
| 18:34.10 | mitch1 | #api IsVisible |
| 18:34.13 | ThraeBot | Could not find an example. |
| 18:34.27 | mitch1 | hrmp |
| 18:35.46 | clad|away | its a widget api |
| 18:35.47 | trh | Gnarfoz: are you sure he hasn't two computers? |
| 18:36.00 | mitch1 | nah, I wanted UnitIsVisible :) |
| 18:36.21 | clad|away | ah |
| 18:36.25 | trh | Gnarfoz: because i'd had no idea how to get the second wow onto my second screen on one comp :) |
| 18:36.39 | trh | ah.. windows mode |
| 18:36.42 | trh | windowed |
| 18:37.16 | trh | Gnarfoz: wish he'd had fps displayed :P |
| 18:37.29 | Tupsi | nice cellular crashes wow |
| 18:37.30 | Gnarfoz | 8800gts |
| 18:37.36 | RogueShadow | I like assessment :) |
| 18:37.42 | RogueShadow | so far |
| 18:37.54 | Gnarfoz | should be smooth, trh - and yes, I'm sure it's just one box, even though he has multiple |
| 18:38.06 | ravagernl | argh feking murmur, 27th run, warlock chest and shoulders drop |
| 18:38.11 | KarlThePagan | found the shift-click menu yet RogueShadow ? ;) took me a while to notice that |
| 18:38.17 | Gnarfoz | murmur should give me the epic leather gloves |
| 18:38.22 | trh | Gnarfoz: well.. i'm missing a good graphics card, but except for that it's no problem =) |
| 18:38.26 | ravagernl | 12 wipes because tank couldn't hold aggro from me :S |
| 18:38.32 | durcyn | psh, two is child's play. |
| 18:38.38 | Gnarfoz | ravagernl: lol, get aggro reset abilities. or another tank :p |
| 18:38.41 | durcyn | real men play 5 copies of wow at once: http://home.comcast.net/~xbx/xbox.htm |
| 18:38.54 | Josh_Borke | learn to oomkin |
| 18:39.09 | ravagernl | he was intervening people and then just stood there for 4 seconds or something |
| 18:39.24 | trh | i can't even imagine to live without dual screen anymore |
| 18:39.51 | ravagernl | gnarfoz: I used fd while it was up |
| 18:40.08 | Gnarfoz | ravagernl: huh? what was he intervening for? o_O |
| 18:40.20 | trh | ravagernl: err? who cares about aggro with murmur? |
| 18:40.27 | ravagernl | to get away from sonic boom -.- |
| 18:40.31 | Gnarfoz | trh: hrm, he now has a spare ibm 20" CRT since he got those two tfts... should I take it? ^^ |
| 18:40.41 | Gnarfoz | ravagernl: he could simply run out for that... ^^ |
| 18:40.44 | trh | Gnarfoz: sure, if your card has a second output :) |
| 18:40.50 | Gnarfoz | x850xt, it does |
| 18:40.58 | Josh_Borke | you can't get aggro on murmur |
| 18:41.04 | Gnarfoz | yes you can |
| 18:41.07 | Ominous | can you see this? |
| 18:41.15 | snurre | murmur == ragnaros |
| 18:41.16 | trh | Gnarfoz: mixed tft + crt is better than only tft, even though tft + tft can't be beaten by them :) |
| 18:41.16 | Gnarfoz | and like with every other boss, you'll be dead pretty quick if you do :D |
| 18:41.31 | ravagernl | i only have 1800 ap on my hunter, it should be easy for him |
| 18:41.33 | Josh_Borke | ok, if there is a melee person alive in melee range murmur will never hit you |
| 18:41.36 | Gnarfoz | trh: ergh, I don't think I could stand the sharpness of the tft image next to the crt |
| 18:41.44 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42535 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: |
| 18:41.44 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 18:41.44 | CIA-22 | - Escape the "|" in ThreatTitle so it shows up properly |
| 18:41.50 | trh | Gnarfoz: if the crt isn't too bad it's ok |
| 18:42.09 | Gnarfoz | trh: it's good, but still, TFTs own CRTs in terms of image cripsness |
| 18:42.11 | trh | Gnarfoz: but i got a second tft after a while :) |
| 18:42.14 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 18:42.24 | RogueShadow | KarlThePagan: Oh thanks for responding. (how long has it been?) Yeah I found it finally |
| 18:42.31 | Gnarfoz | I'd upgrade several things, like going dual tfts and stuff, if only I had the money ^^ |
| 18:42.32 | trh | Gnarfoz: just get a second tft, it's not like they are very expensive anymore :) |
| 18:42.41 | Gnarfoz | I don't even have a first one ;) |
| 18:42.45 | trh | Gnarfoz: they got 19" for like 180euros |
| 18:42.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah, too small |
| 18:42.53 | Gnarfoz | and 5:4 |
| 18:42.54 | snurre | loving my 22" wides :) |
| 18:42.58 | trh | Gnancy: if you get 2 it's nice :) |
| 18:43.00 | Gnarfoz | need 4:3 & 1600x1200 |
| 18:43.01 | trh | Gnarfoz |
| 18:43.13 | trh | Gnancy: that's a bit more expensive |
| 18:43.16 | Gnarfoz | I know :> |
| 18:43.19 | trh | DAMN YOU AUTO COMPLETION |
| 18:43.24 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 18:43.58 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 18:44.06 | trh | Gnarfoz: 2 19" tfts are pretty nice :) |
| 18:44.06 | RogueShadow | welcome |
| 18:44.09 | snurre | http://crit-happens.net/snurre/setup.jpg cost me 520euro total |
| 18:44.12 | liquiem | wb ckknight |
| 18:44.19 | trh | even if they are only 1280x1024 |
| 18:44.20 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: Parrot's not ready yet |
| 18:44.30 | ckknight | Saroz: pong |
| 18:44.32 | Gnarfoz | I work for (or rather, apprenticeship, hence the low income ^^) an online computer shop... but I can't be arsed to buy small or crappy (we got plenty of both) tft, e.g. without DVI-in) |
| 18:44.36 | Hjalte | Can anyone recommend a codec pack for movies and music? I know codec packs are ill-seen by many and bla bla, but it's the easiest :) |
| 18:44.37 | ravagernl | I mean how stupid is it, after i did a misdirect + trinket aimed shot wich crits for 3400 and then multi 1.8k that he still cannot get aggro if i fd directly after misdirection? |
| 18:44.45 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: yeah, that's what I was trying to say to... whoever I said that to ^^ |
| 18:45.06 | Saroz | ckknight, portrait and highlight is enabled in pitbull, nomatter what.. seems to be your last commit |
| 18:45.12 | trh | Hjalte: try k-lite |
| 18:45.14 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: I'd guess CCCP is the most common one nowadays, even though I concur on the "codec packs are evil" part |
| 18:45.16 | ckknight | Saroz: what commit was that? |
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| 18:45.23 | Saroz | ckknight, it's only a few select modules though, spark is disabled |
| 18:45.26 | RogueShadow | Hjalte: Combined Community Codec Pack? |
| 18:45.34 | Gnarfoz | ~cccp |
| 18:45.36 | purl | cccp are the commies |
| 18:45.41 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 18:45.42 | Saroz | ckknight, some "SendToAllModules" function |
| 18:45.59 | RogueShadow | communism isn't a bad idea, just doesn't take into account humans are not all perfect beings. |
| 18:46.10 | Gnarfoz | don't even start |
| 18:46.11 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 18:46.14 | RogueShadow | Just prone to evil... yeah. lol |
| 18:46.28 | Saroz | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/42443 |
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| 18:46.33 | trh | RogueShadow: it's a bit more complicated :P |
| 18:46.34 | Saroz | ckknight, just a guess though |
| 18:46.43 | RogueShadow | To be sure. |
| 18:46.45 | phyber | hmm. who thought it was a good idea to make Violation not remember which windows you wanted open between sessions? |
| 18:46.48 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: what the... that's several packs of 5 70s right there? |
| 18:46.51 | RogueShadow | I dont' intend on starting a discussionn about it |
| 18:46.56 | trh | RogueShadow: me neither =) |
| 18:47.16 | phyber | ah, it's just a retarded "working as intended" function. |
| 18:47.20 | ckknight | Saroz: ah. |
| 18:47.23 | ckknight | Saroz: hrm. |
| 18:47.28 | phyber | that should be changed. not very intuitive. |
| 18:47.47 | Moltarain | ravagernl: use arcane shott for agro and distracting. not aimed. and shurly not multi... |
| 18:48.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, window showing, hiding, accessing those two, and remembering states of windows has been quite... weird for some time now, phyber ^^ |
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| 18:48.51 | ravagernl | well my multi crits for 2k almost so how could distracting shot be better |
| 18:48.59 | ravagernl | what's its threat value? |
| 18:49.04 | phyber | Press [x] to get rid of the window when you're done, it disables ever showing that again when you click on the violation ifon on FuBar. click the icon on fubar to hide it, it gets shown agian automatically when you login. stupid |
| 18:49.18 | Moltarain | ravagernl: but you should know that agro isnt counted by the dmg. its the threat that counts |
| 18:49.23 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: There is something wrong with Tankaggro @ Vashj. It's way too low. I'm +300% and not pulling aggro. Happend with 42277 and 42450. |
| 18:49.32 | ckknight | Saroz: mind testing something? |
| 18:49.40 | Josh_Borke | Gandharva: work harder |
| 18:49.43 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: yeah, he multiplexed the keyboard to 5 boxes and played them all together |
| 18:49.44 | Josh_Borke | Gandharva: gotta hit +500% |
| 18:49.48 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: it's disturbing |
| 18:49.48 | phyber | disabling/enabling a window should only happen in the config menu, imo. clicking [x] should just hide it, not change the config for what should be shown :/ |
| 18:49.55 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: and awesome at the same time! |
| 18:50.03 | Gandharva | Josh_Borke: I'll try :) |
| 18:50.09 | mitch1 | phyber: I agree with that :) |
| 18:50.18 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: I'd love to do that, if I had the setup :D |
| 18:50.55 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: you know, you can create monthly cron jobs ;-) |
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| 18:51.09 | Roartindon | hmm.. "svn: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/Assessment': 503 Service Unavailable (http://dev.wowace.com)" |
| 18:51.13 | Kaelten | ya, still wouldn' help any |
| 18:51.23 | PProvost_ | Yeah, I just got an SVN failure too Roartindon |
| 18:51.31 | Kaelten | Roartindon: this damn script is eating resources like no tommorrow |
| 18:51.38 | Roartindon | Kaelten: How much longer does it have left? |
| 18:51.41 | Kirkburn|afk | bye bye Ace wiki :/ |
| 18:51.43 | Josh_Borke | would too ;-P it'll run while not as many use it |
| 18:51.44 | Kaelten | shouldn't be too much |
| 18:51.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaelten, can't access wowace.com :P |
| 18:51.56 | Josh_Borke | you could also renice it |
| 18:52.01 | Kaelten | its slow |
| 18:52.03 | Kaelten | and it has been reniced |
| 18:52.04 | Saroz | ckknight, sure, on leo atm, but ye |
| 18:52.07 | Kaelten | problem is swap |
| 18:52.10 | Josh_Borke | greedy bastard |
| 18:52.12 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: also, he seems to be getting massive amouts of group bonus etc. heh |
| 18:52.25 | Ominous | what ports does networking between computers conencted via a router use? |
| 18:52.30 | Kaelten | its dropped its memory usage from 45% to 15% hough |
| 18:52.54 | Kaelten | so I'm thinking its finishing up |
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| 18:53.03 | Kaelten | there is just a lot of data for it to work on. |
| 18:53.04 | ckknight | Saroz: SVN's down |
| 18:53.12 | ckknight | Saroz: once it's up |
| 18:53.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Not just the SVN :) |
| 18:53.51 | Kaelten | apache reloaded |
| 18:54.11 | Jaxon | Just out of curiosity, what is running that is hogging all the hardware |
| 18:54.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Back, ta Kael |
| 18:54.31 | Chompers | we tried void reaver last night Saroz, cool fight |
| 18:54.37 | Gnarfoz | Jaxon: June's stats |
| 18:54.43 | Kaelten | Jaxon: a python script thats generating June's stats |
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| 18:55.12 | ckknight | Saroz: test that |
| 18:55.28 | Kaelten | what I'm thinking would be good is a db backend that stoppes it from having to parse the logs all at once |
| 18:55.36 | NeoTron | Fathom-Lord is one of those fights, I'm sure, that is a bit rough to learn but once you get it becomes just another maulgar |
| 18:55.37 | Kaelten | if I ran this via cron daily and composited the data |
| 18:55.41 | ckknight | okay, I gotta go now |
| 18:55.45 | Kaelten | it'd not be as much of an issue |
| 18:56.34 | phyber | is it reading the whole file into memory before working on it or some other sillyness? |
| 18:56.46 | Kaelten | no using pythons fileinput |
| 18:56.53 | Kaelten | each file its running is millions of lines long |
| 18:56.58 | Kaelten | it'd not be able to read them all in |
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| 19:01.08 | mitch1 | can someone pastey the creation of a default locale table that just returns the key if there is no value? I'm too lazy to dig it out :) |
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| 19:02.37 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: i has an error :((( |
| 19:02.45 | Antiarc|Work | Pastey? |
| 19:03.04 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: http://wow.reaktio.net/c.txt |
| 19:03.20 | NeoTron | I'm so glad I got exalted with Consortium |
| 19:03.21 | Antiarc|Work | Looks like an Assessment error |
| 19:03.25 | mitch1 | anti: ace.pastey.net |
| 19:03.26 | NeoTron | I got 1 blue, 3 green gems this month |
| 19:03.33 | NeoTron | last month at revered I got 4 blue gems |
| 19:03.42 | mikma | hmm sorry then |
| 19:03.45 | mikma | didn't look |
| 19:03.52 | mikma | in middle of raid :P |
| 19:05.21 | Josh_Borke | mikma is noob |
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| 19:05.44 | ravagernl | mikma, what is the chat you're using? |
| 19:05.55 | mikma | ravagernl: wut chat? |
| 19:06.06 | ravagernl | http://wow.reaktio.net/cfpdump4.png |
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| 19:06.35 | mikma | ravagernl: it's something i coded, called 'ChatBox', but i need to rename it since an addon named that already exists |
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| 19:06.53 | Josh_Borke | mikma: how do you SW:D with that keybind layout? o.O |
| 19:07.17 | mikma | Josh_Borke: i shift+leftclick target unitframe |
| 19:07.21 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 19:07.48 | CIA-22 | 03 * r 10/: |
| 19:07.57 | mikma | i found it best solution to keep me from misusing that spell |
| 19:07.59 | Arrowmaster | oO |
| 19:08.15 | ravagernl | mikma: I want to know more about that chatbox :) |
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| 19:08.46 | mikma | ravagernl: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ChatBox/ |
| 19:08.58 | ravagernl | thanks |
| 19:09.08 | Mikk | (that's me modding the cia bot script btw.. don't fret) |
| 19:09.52 | mitch1 | antiarc: you did that sig generator thing, right? |
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| 19:13.31 | ravagernl | http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/EFH/EFH.lua oi, interesting |
| 19:13.46 | mikma | ravagernl: heh, i wrote that yesterday, it's "brand new" |
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| 19:14.22 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, mitch1 |
| 19:14.24 | ravagernl | party healing made easy |
| 19:14.41 | ravagernl | mikma: add regrowth :P |
| 19:14.43 | mikma | i coded it for my shaman and added partymembers in too :) |
| 19:14.49 | mikma | ravagernl: added :D |
| 19:14.59 | mikma | it did add it yesterday but forgot to commit |
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| 19:17.41 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: maybe the Vashj problem is because of Taunt? MT and OT Taunt Vashj very often. But only MT has Threat 1.0 and KTM installed. OT only KTM. |
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| 19:17.51 | ravagernl | omg nowai http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/JJ200S-CPSS/JJ200S-CPSS.lua XD |
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| 19:19.07 | mikma | heh :D it bugs sometimes and leaves the screen black |
| 19:19.10 | mikma | so i can't use it :( |
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| 19:19.41 | piotrb | is wowace.com being murdered right now? or is it just me? |
| 19:20.07 | mikma | ravagernl: i even released that one in wowi |
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| 19:20.25 | ravagernl | mikma: probably when you exit combat when you still don't have control |
| 19:20.31 | mikma | yeah prolly |
| 19:20.33 | Gandharva | piotrb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack |
| 19:21.17 | piotrb | ouch .. who would someone dos wowace? |
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| 19:22.30 | Gandharva | piotrb: Kenco |
| 19:23.03 | piotrb | Gandharva: that doesn't mean anything to me .. |
| 19:23.19 | dylanm | piotrb: Author of KLHThreatMeter. |
| 19:23.21 | durcyn | the ktm author, and i doubt it |
| 19:23.31 | Funkeh` | who says its being DDoS? |
| 19:23.32 | Funkeh` | lol? |
| 19:23.38 | durcyn | he may be delusional, but he's not malicious |
| 19:23.39 | Funkeh` | kaelten already explained why its slow |
| 19:23.41 | trh | if kenco would know so much about networks/dos/stuff his code should be alot better |
| 19:23.48 | Funkeh` | shut the fuck up and stop making up rumours |
| 19:23.48 | Gandharva | piotrb: just kidding ;) |
| 19:24.07 | Gandharva | Funkeh`: BLAH |
| 19:24.21 | piotrb | .. I see |
| 19:24.34 | Funkeh` | its slow because kaelten is performing some statistical programs |
| 19:24.40 | piotrb | ah cool |
| 19:25.00 | trh | i wish he'd tell how he wants to difference targets with the same name |
| 19:25.11 | piotrb | may be nice to toss that into the topic so the question doesn't come up |
| 19:25.12 | trh | maybe it's revolutionary as his "dynamic processor throttling" |
| 19:25.23 | Kalman| | trh: I'm looking forward to that myself. |
| 19:25.26 | trh | which reduces the cpu load in raids, but not outside of them! |
| 19:25.42 | Kalman| | I might even register on curse to point out the holes in his ideas when he does. |
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| 19:26.09 | trh | i believe it's a load of BS to let his users hope for "better" features than omen/threat |
| 19:27.14 | Saroz | damn SVN is teh slow |
| 19:27.24 | Jumoor | hmmm wowaceupdater is crashing on me this morning |
| 19:27.25 | Mikk | i blame kaelten |
| 19:27.35 | Srosh | blame the leeches! |
| 19:27.37 | Chompers | gruul is so much easier than last week, shatter just isn't that much of a problem |
| 19:27.42 | trh | even though in theory it might be possible to get accurate results with sending current health, raid symbol and more (if everyone uses ktm) |
| 19:27.51 | trh | but the communication overhead would be too much |
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| 19:28.28 | Mikk | trh: only if everyone only nukes his target (which, granted, is usually the case) |
| 19:28.36 | Mikk | but it fails hard with aoe |
| 19:28.41 | trh | Mikk: yeah.. of course for the usual case |
| 19:28.50 | Mikk | (including multishot, cleave, whatnot) |
| 19:29.00 | trh | Mikk: let alone multishot lands on 3 targets with the same name, if there are 4 mobs with that name it's hopeless :) |
| 19:29.33 | Gnarfoz | it's supposed to be hopeless, anyway |
| 19:29.38 | trh | Mikk: it could work though if someone has the mob in target and the mobs would have actual hp/maxhp values |
| 19:29.50 | trh | you could calc the difference and try to calculate who's damage it was |
| 19:29.57 | trh | but as they only got percentage, it's impossible |
| 19:30.06 | Gnarfoz | with so many very bright minds making addons for wow, I'd guess by now, someone would've found a way to differentiate between same-named mobs |
| 19:30.30 | yacoob | you put colorful dots on their forehead. |
| 19:30.35 | Keias | WAU borked? |
| 19:30.42 | Keias | Well, won't connect it seems |
| 19:30.47 | trh | Gnarfoz: yeah.. well.. there are approaches, but communication overhead is too worse for the possible gain :) |
| 19:30.56 | yacoob | there has been some problems with actual implementations, but nowadays you can get a set of trained gnomes for that purpose |
| 19:31.19 | trh | Gnarfoz: and you'd have to make assumptions that are impossible to met |
| 19:31.43 | Gnarfoz | hence: supposed to impossible :D |
| 19:31.44 | trh | Gnarfoz: (everyone must have the mod and behave correctly) |
| 19:32.06 | trh | ya.. in theory to possible... but practically not |
| 19:32.29 | jme | Keias: apparently they are running some log statistics that's eating up server ram. |
| 19:32.32 | jme | last i heard |
| 19:32.38 | Mikk | i killed it now |
| 19:32.38 | Gnarfoz | still |
| 19:32.40 | Keias | ahh ok |
| 19:32.45 | Mikk | couldn't work the system console even |
| 19:32.50 | trh | i wish kenco would finally implement the boss mods getting sent thru communication channels |
| 19:32.59 | jme | Mikk: forkbomb ftw? |
| 19:33.05 | Gnarfoz | trh: so you could implement your plan for world domination? |
| 19:33.09 | Mikk | nah, just chewing excessive ram and swapping |
| 19:33.10 | Gnarfoz | with infinite loops? :p |
| 19:33.17 | trh | Gnarfoz: gief me all your money :P |
| 19:33.25 | jme | Mikk: yeah i know, but have you ever forkbombed a box before? ;) |
| 19:33.26 | trh | all your base are belong to me :) |
| 19:33.29 | Mikk | you can all blame Antiarc btw :P |
| 19:33.29 | Gnarfoz | not possible without user interaction, trh :< |
| 19:33.34 | Mikk | jme: ofc :> |
| 19:33.38 | Gnarfoz | and also, all my money amounts to... not much :\ |
| 19:33.44 | trh | Gnarfoz: they should add /split again :P |
| 19:33.47 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 19:33.58 | jme | Mikk: hehe |
| 19:33.59 | trh | i wonder how many people lost their money because they wanted to type /spit |
| 19:34.06 | Gnarfoz | wonder if there ever was any UI for /split in alpha or beta |
| 19:34.15 | Mikk | standard MUD command tbh |
| 19:34.25 | Mikk | i'd have added it if i was an early dev on wow :> |
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| 19:34.42 | trh | it'd be ok as a command |
| 19:34.56 | Gnarfoz | I'd understand if it splitted (correct past form?) money you've gained since in the current group, but all your money? |
| 19:34.56 | trh | but the not ok part was the missing question if you really want to do it :) |
| 19:35.10 | trh | Gnarfoz: i think it was the whole money |
| 19:35.16 | Gnarfoz | it was |
| 19:35.17 | trh | Gnarfoz: not only the earned |
| 19:35.19 | Gnarfoz | question is: why |
| 19:35.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah, the missing confirmation question was likely because the command itself still being in game was an oversight in the first place |
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| 19:37.10 | Gnarfoz | brb |
| 19:38.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, what should I (re)name my "verbose" (hand-written) ClearFont2 changelog |
| 19:38.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Currently it's changelog.txt, which is confusing next to the automated ones |
| 19:39.19 | trh | is there some kind of exploit in adobes pdf reader? |
| 19:39.25 | trh | getting alot of spam .pdf's lately |
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| 19:39.57 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: i'd stick with changelog.txt |
| 19:40.22 | Kirkburn|afk | why? |
| 19:40.33 | Strigoi | hmm is author of Vouyeur still arround btw? |
| 19:41.02 | trh | if you'd say a name you might get a answer ;) |
| 19:41.33 | Strigoi | 1 moment ;p |
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| 19:41.53 | Strigoi | ZaelotOnaStick and Sorata |
| 19:41.58 | Srosh | changes.txt? |
| 19:42.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Kirkburn|afk: if it's not used/updated anymore, call it something like 'Version History - Old.txt' |
| 19:42.09 | Strigoi | not familliar with those names :o |
| 19:42.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Nah, I still update it |
| 19:42.37 | Kirkburn|afk | It's like a summary list |
| 19:42.38 | NightHawkAtWork | well, 'Version History.txt' is still good |
| 19:42.51 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: because changelog.txt is the usual name and the automated logs are pretty easy to differentiate due to their naming |
| 19:43.02 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: i'd never look for a changes.txt first |
| 19:45.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Why can't there be a simple option :( |
| 19:45.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Apart from the really simple one, which is do nothing :P |
| 19:46.37 | NightHawkAtWork | There's always simple options. |
| 19:46.46 | NightHawkAtWork | It's just a matter of who it's simple for. :D |
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| 19:49.39 | Kirkburn|afk | how about "Changelog summary.txt" |
| 19:49.40 | NeoTron | so is it intentional that the hunter's pet dies in the Fathom-Lord encounter |
| 19:49.44 | NeoTron | like dies all by itself? |
| 19:50.01 | Kirkburn|afk | It dies of loneliness? |
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| 19:56.25 | trh | NeoTron: uh.. it's vulnerable to the fireballs of the totems and to the priests shadowbolts |
| 19:56.46 | trh | er.. frost bolts |
| 19:57.00 | Kaelten | dalvarez: hello |
| 19:57.11 | trh | NeoTron: http://files.filefront.com//;7925392;;/ there's a video how a BM does it |
| 19:58.54 | rophy | wowace server down? |
| 19:59.00 | Kaelten | ya |
| 19:59.03 | rophy | okay |
| 19:59.03 | trh | NeoTron: even though it's in german: https://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=C8332215B747A3E4E44EBE5420116DC9.app03_03?topicId=296451088&sid=3 you'll probably understand most of it |
| 19:59.12 | Kaelten | when we killed the stats script is locked the disk for some reason |
| 19:59.23 | rophy | hmm :X |
| 19:59.37 | Kaelten | reboot froze |
| 19:59.48 | Kaelten | powercycling is not going well |
| 19:59.49 | Kaelten | :s |
| 19:59.50 | trh | NeoTron: (at least if you translate if via babelfish :) |
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| 20:02.44 | NeoTron | trh: I'm referring to the raid boss pet, not a player pet |
| 20:02.52 | trh | NeoTron: oh ;) |
| 20:03.13 | trh | NeoTron: sounded alot like the class hunter :) |
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| 20:06.23 | TecnoBrat | wtf, boar charge rank 1 does 500 threat? |
| 20:08.00 | trh | i hate that they completly forgot beast-boars in the outlands |
| 20:08.54 | kenlyric | yeah, no higher rank of charge = suck. |
| 20:09.11 | trh | ya.. and you can't tame a board > level 60 |
| 20:09.18 | trh | like they completly forgot it |
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| 20:10.04 | durcyn | hunters should be removed from the game anyway. |
| 20:10.16 | trh | converted to warlocks |
| 20:10.18 | trh | that'd be nice |
| 20:10.27 | trh | finally being useful :P |
| 20:10.31 | durcyn | nah, just deleted. |
| 20:10.33 | trh | (for anything other than misdirection) |
| 20:10.34 | durcyn | accounts cancelled |
| 20:10.35 | Krattz | is http://files-wowace.renchap.com/ up to date ? |
| 20:10.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I always played my warlock like a hunter |
| 20:10.57 | durcyn | and a nasty email telling the players to jump off a roof |
| 20:11.17 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: once you go affliction + drain tanking and tapping mana from the imp you never want to go back |
| 20:11.27 | Zicon | kirkburn: Send pet, turn on wand, go get a cup of tea? :P |
| 20:11.29 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: played my flatmates warlock... pretty awesome |
| 20:11.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Nah, in that I never let my demon die |
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| 20:12.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Or sacrificed them, or used my soul shards |
| 20:12.12 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: no, mana tapping, not sacrificing |
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| 20:13.47 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: dark pact |
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| 20:14.30 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-talents.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=Debris that talent spec :) |
| 20:14.57 | Morghus | I'm in the middle of a raid, and for some reason this shadow-priest is completely massacring the Violation-charts. It's happened quite alot throughout it's history. In the vicinity of 100x the damage of the one in second palce |
| 20:15.30 | Strigoi | well anyway i have a small issue with Voyeur if anyone still using it: when you inspect someone it should cache the items so when you remove the target you still see items , but after last patch it's a bit broken - if you clear your target after inspecting you still see charracter and items but hen you mouseover em you get "feet", "ring", "waist" instead of actual tooltip of the item, however if you shift+ click on item in chat - you get the link |
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| 20:16.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Morghus, a bug in threat? |
| 20:16.36 | Morghus | Damage, not threat |
| 20:16.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah |
| 20:16.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, a bug in <damage thingy?? |
| 20:17.24 | Morghus | No idea. Reporting here since I'm in the middle of a raid, and reporting before I reset and forget :P |
| 20:17.35 | Morghus | ... probably a bug |
| 20:17.43 | Morghus | ( sorry, bit hectic :P |
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| 20:18.39 | Gnarfoz | trh: in that thread, I like the list of dangerous abilities (in regards to pets) for Kael'Thas xD |
| 20:18.57 | trh | Gnarfoz: hehe..y eah =) |
| 20:23.59 | Gnarfoz | trh: that's your flat mate's char in the armory link? |
| 20:24.02 | Ominous | is wowace down? |
| 20:24.08 | trh | Gnarfoz: yep |
| 20:24.12 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: yes |
| 20:24.29 | Gnarfoz | trh: neat, knew quite some people from HN when I was playing on Aegwynn ^^ |
| 20:24.52 | Gnarfoz | even met someone on my "new" server who also rerolled there, who was in HN when he was playing on Aegwynn ;D |
| 20:25.04 | trh | Gnarfoz: he isn't that long in HN =) - nowadays many people from HN are from the former Dragon Clan and some other bigger guilds =) |
| 20:25.06 | Gnarfoz | although, then, I was alliance and he obviously was horde |
| 20:25.13 | Gnarfoz | yeah figures |
| 20:25.24 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 20:25.27 | Gnarfoz | and I'm stupid |
| 20:25.30 | Gnarfoz | he was in PI, not HN XD |
| 20:25.37 | trh | Gnarfoz: big difference :P |
| 20:25.39 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 20:25.59 | Gnarfoz | have HN gained back some PvE progress, or is it still PI at the front now? |
| 20:26.06 | trh | Gnarfoz: the PI guys are mostly jerks ;) (there are some who aren't, bust mostly) |
| 20:26.08 | Gnarfoz | like it has been since... Naxxramas? IIRC |
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| 20:26.25 | trh | Gnarfoz: they gained some back - had a cold streak until before a few weeks |
| 20:26.27 | Gnarfoz | nah, you know that's just the image they've got since back in the day ^^ most of them are ok guys ;) |
| 20:26.33 | trh | Gnarfoz: but are doing better now |
| 20:26.40 | Gnarfoz | good for them :> |
| 20:27.07 | Gnarfoz | you're still playing Vane or something else these days? |
| 20:27.13 | Gnarfoz | (if I even remember that right) |
| 20:27.39 | trh | Gnarfoz: on horde side, besides PI "random" is pretty good |
| 20:27.42 | trh | Gnarfoz: still vane :) |
| 20:27.44 | Kaelten | dalvarez: ping |
| 20:27.52 | Gnarfoz | random is ex-err... bleh what was it |
| 20:27.53 | trh | Gnarfoz: i definitly hate leveling chars |
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| 20:28.05 | trh | Gnarfoz: ex-forgotten |
| 20:28.07 | Gnarfoz | ah yes |
| 20:28.27 | trh | Gnarfoz: on alliance, destiny had big changes and are nowadays not so elite as they used to be ;) |
| 20:28.34 | trh | Gnarfoz: the new destiny is now calledn different |
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| 20:28.39 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that happened quite some time ago |
| 20:28.48 | Gnarfoz | they already had trouble keeping up in Naxx |
| 20:28.58 | Gnarfoz | that's when err damn |
| 20:29.02 | Gnarfoz | Fairytales |
| 20:29.04 | Gnarfoz | took the lead |
| 20:29.35 | Cryect | hmmm is WAU disabled or something? |
| 20:29.38 | Gnarfoz | on a sidenote, it's amazing the stuff I can remember, even though at that point of time I was already not playing there anymore ;D |
| 20:29.42 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: server down |
| 20:29.44 | trh | Gnarfoz: yep.. they merged with delirium |
| 20:29.45 | Cryect | oh WoWace is down I see someone said |
| 20:30.01 | Gnarfoz | trh: which, itself, was a splinter of Destiny in the first place, right? |
| 20:30.04 | trh | Gnarfoz: when they lost alot of members because their former leader (Atomi) came back and created a new guild (i think) |
| 20:30.12 | Gnarfoz | hm Atomi came back... again? |
| 20:30.14 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 20:30.21 | Gnarfoz | he's that porn website/hotline dude |
| 20:30.25 | trh | ya.. i'm not sure if he's playing again |
| 20:30.29 | Gnarfoz | quite amazing, but also makes good realm drama xD |
| 20:30.38 | trh | uh.. i thought he was a graphics designer |
| 20:30.45 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 20:30.53 | Gnarfoz | perhaps both, but he certainly has some paysites |
| 20:31.00 | trh | but i don't really know them :) |
| 20:31.10 | trh | don't have much to do with alliance except killing them :) |
| 20:31.19 | Gnarfoz | we had a nice thread on our internal guild forums back then |
| 20:31.35 | Gnarfoz | because for some reason, I think it was our MT, had access to theirs |
| 20:31.35 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 20:31.45 | trh | hehe yeah.. THAT was drama |
| 20:31.51 | trh | when they complained in the official boards |
| 20:32.02 | trh | that the evil evil guys from guild something used their tactics |
| 20:32.02 | Gnarfoz | yea, that was fun :D |
| 20:32.11 | trh | and had illegal access to their boards and whatever =) |
| 20:32.16 | Gnarfoz | RudL (Renn um dein Leben) / Genesis |
| 20:32.18 | trh | those were the days ;) |
| 20:33.21 | Gnarfoz | joined those guys at level 58/Garr first kill (they needed warlocks badly, not a lot of warlocks around back then - kind of sad that char is now my Elixir/Flask bitch and still only level 61 xD) |
| 20:33.59 | Saroz | gief svn |
| 20:34.06 | Gnarfoz | Saroz: gief server, first ;) |
| 20:34.22 | trh | Gnarfoz: rudl guys were fun... always running for their lives when 1v1 |
| 20:34.33 | Gnarfoz | nomen est omen :> |
| 20:34.37 | starlon | someone break the server? |
| 20:34.39 | trh | Gnarfoz: hehe.. yep :) |
| 20:34.43 | Gnarfoz | starlon: yes |
| 20:35.16 | trh | Gnarfoz: but werwolf got more peaceful nowadays... doesn't stop me from killing them |
| 20:35.20 | trh | Gnarfoz: but still... |
| 20:35.31 | Gnarfoz | trh: never were great pvp'ers anyway, was more on the pve side back then already - although we had at least one r14 dude later on - but that doesn't say anything anyway besides "too much time" :D |
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| 20:36.09 | trh | Gnarfoz: hehe.. we had 1 r14 and one r13 in the dragon clan, and 2 r14 was in obscuritas aeterna (which are history now too) |
| 20:36.17 | trh | were not was |
| 20:36.39 | Gnarfoz | I don't really like my current server :\ |
| 20:37.14 | Gnarfoz | but I can't be arsed to transfer again (3 chars this time, not just one), and even then, the question would be: where ^^ |
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| 20:37.51 | abug | <insert obligatory site QQ here> |
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| 20:38.08 | Gnarfoz | abug: stand in line, over there ----> |
| 20:38.29 | sbu | mhhh, rezz in arena is overpowered :o |
| 20:38.35 | Gnarfoz | trh: sad thing is, I think I'm still permabanned from #aegwynn on quakenet |
| 20:40.46 | Gnarfoz | trh: also funny: best guild on my current realm dispersed some short time before BC (the usual pre-BC guild breakup stuff :|), many of them are now with either PI or HN on Aegwynn :D |
| 20:41.16 | trh | Gnarfoz: lol =) |
| 20:41.27 | trh | Gnarfoz: time to transfer to aegwynn ^^ |
| 20:41.56 | Gnarfoz | would have to delete my 48 ud warrior and transfer 3 chars... no way :\ |
| 20:41.58 | trh | Gnarfoz: at least the char you like to play most =) |
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| 20:42.35 | what-K | hi all i search an addon do display the time before the cht |
| 20:42.50 | Gnarfoz | dunno, I just got in one of the better alliance guilds on my current realm, who are trying to rebuild themselves after some important people split |
| 20:43.03 | abug | don't look on the ace repository |
| 20:43.12 | Gnarfoz | because it's not there atm? :p |
| 20:43.28 | Seerah_ | what-K: Prat will do that for you, though it also does TONS more. Most chat frame addons will add that for you, though |
| 20:43.29 | abug | it's there in spirit |
| 20:43.41 | durcyn | omigod, i can't spam update on WAU, what will i do? gottaupdate, gottaupdate, gottaupdate *twitch* |
| 20:43.43 | Gnarfoz | what-K: simplechatmods, if you are able to modify them to your needs (I heard that's how you configure it), Prat (WAY overkill, it has tons of features), or... dunno |
| 20:43.59 | durcyn | i always liked tekChat |
| 20:44.01 | trh | Gnarfoz: well.. there's much of that stuff on aegwynn too - like Dragon Clan => Band of Dragons => half of them to iao and HN ;) |
| 20:44.02 | Kaelten | heh |
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| 20:44.06 | trh | Gnarfoz: and so on |
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| 20:44.14 | Kaelten | we'll be lucky if the server doesn't die once it does come back up |
| 20:44.23 | Kaelten | people really do sit there and wait for the server to come back up and spam it once it does |
| 20:44.38 | durcyn | Kaelten: yeah. fortunately at least mine was parody :o |
| 20:44.39 | Gnarfoz | the longer it's down, the more people will be doing that, I guess |
| 20:44.45 | trh | Kaelten: couldn't you add firewall rules to only allow x connections, refusing the rest for http? |
| 20:44.58 | Seerah_ | Kaelten: I've been waiting to finish my forum trolling >.< |
| 20:45.13 | Kaelten | :{ |
| 20:45.16 | Gnarfoz | trh: yeah, but there's only so many guilds with more than a handful of members on this realm... not many bigger ones |
| 20:45.19 | sbu | yay, iptables throttle |
| 20:45.33 | Gnarfoz | trh: rp realms suck. lesson learned :| |
| 20:45.34 | Seerah_ | I'm patient though! |
| 20:45.55 | trh | Gnarfoz: :) lately a complete guild transferred to aegwynn |
| 20:46.02 | what-K | thx all for ur help |
| 20:46.11 | Gnarfoz | trh: the realm is that much alive? oO |
| 20:46.11 | trh | Gnarfoz: impaCt (add some ´ ^ and stuff ;) |
| 20:46.14 | what-K | i will try it asap the page is on again |
| 20:46.17 | trh | Gnarfoz: yep |
| 20:46.34 | trh | Gnarfoz: look at http://aegwynn.de/wiki/index.php/Gildenstatus_in_Instanzen_%28Burning_Crusade%29 |
| 20:46.43 | Gnarfoz | trh: back in the day, much of the population was of course, because Aegwynn was the first in the server list |
| 20:46.55 | Gnarfoz | which was also the reason we (RL work colleagues) rolled there |
| 20:47.00 | what-K | and another question the the addon bosswhisperer it dont set me dnd over boss fights what do i wrong ? |
| 20:47.21 | Gnarfoz | trh: ah yeah, the wiki... got that bookmarked since day 1... was quite active there for a while ^^ |
| 20:47.53 | Strigoi | how can i check what's creating most of GC? |
| 20:48.34 | Strigoi | think it was some addon like hmmm teksupport or smth |
| 20:48.53 | Gnarfoz | trh: check http://aegwynn.de/wiki/index.php/Benutzer:Gnarfoz ^^ |
| 20:49.12 | trh | Gnarfoz: lol =) |
| 20:49.17 | sbu | Kaelten: lighttpd, right? |
| 20:49.34 | Kaelten | both |
| 20:49.37 | sbu | both? |
| 20:49.40 | sbu | apache + lighty? |
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| 20:49.48 | Kaelten | ya for different things |
| 20:49.52 | Kaelten | apache for svn and php |
| 20:49.53 | Gnarfoz | trh: heh, DM, the usurpers :D |
| 20:49.57 | Kaelten | lightty for files |
| 20:49.59 | trh | Gnarfoz: lol at the worldboss port char |
| 20:50.07 | trh | Gnarfoz: we had a guild on horde site that did that too |
| 20:50.16 | Gnarfoz | heh, I know |
| 20:50.31 | trh | Gnarfoz: ported 20 people for kazzak *bam bam* and epixx :) |
| 20:50.39 | Gnarfoz | I was tired of no one (and I mean, no one) on our realm doing them, so I put that one to azshara for a while |
| 20:50.49 | Gnarfoz | and my real warlock to BL |
| 20:51.26 | sbu | Kaelten: but it is user -> squid -> lighty, right? |
| 20:51.42 | Kaelten | or user > squid > apache2 |
| 20:51.47 | sbu | okay |
| 20:52.21 | Gnarfoz | trh: deus sanctum is ... can't remember... one of the early zerg guilds, |
| 20:52.27 | Gnarfoz | re-founded |
| 20:52.36 | Gnarfoz | what was their name then :| |
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| 20:52.55 | Gnarfoz | even got a ragnaros kill vid from them, if I didn't clean that out |
| 20:53.00 | sbu | okay this is a pretty easy one Kaelten :) |
| 20:53.27 | phawx | is wowace down or does it just not like firefox |
| 20:53.36 | trh | phawx: down, mostly |
| 20:53.51 | trh | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/ does still work |
| 20:54.30 | Gnarfoz | trh: ah, Score is Atomi's new guild, right? |
| 20:54.51 | trh | Gnarfoz: right |
| 20:54.53 | Rayden | IMPORTANT: uninstall !!!StandAloneLibraries until this notice is removed <--?! |
| 20:55.06 | Hjalte | shieldb, ping |
| 20:55.07 | trh | Gnarfoz: but i'm not sure if he's still playing or if the guild still does exist |
| 20:55.10 | Gnarfoz | Rayden: bug, could lead to data loss. if you use WAU2, just do it :) |
| 20:55.23 | Rayden | could i just not run wau2 for a while? |
| 20:55.28 | Gnarfoz | trh: hm. got any clue about that other guild I'm trying to remember? :D |
| 20:55.33 | trh | Gnarfoz: ah http://www.score-gilde.de/ |
| 20:55.36 | Gnarfoz | Rayden: of course :) |
| 20:55.38 | Rayden | and don't plugins need those libraries? |
| 20:55.40 | trh | Gnarfoz: not really :) |
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| 20:55.52 | trh | Gnarfoz: i know they reformed, but i can't remember from whom |
| 20:56.14 | Gnarfoz | I have some vague idea... blah of something |
| 20:56.23 | trh | knights of something |
| 20:56.24 | trh | maybe |
| 20:57.14 | nekoh | finally kael down! :D |
| 20:57.20 | trh | Gnarfoz: do the erben aegwynns stille xist? |
| 20:57.25 | Gnarfoz | no idea. |
| 20:58.19 | Gnarfoz | srsly, that's a lot of alliance guilds who are at least mentioned in the progress list. Aegwynn has always been alliance biased, but wow |
| 20:58.25 | trh | Gnarfoz: Deus in Ferro maybe? |
| 20:58.29 | Gnarfoz | nah |
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| 20:58.45 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 20:58.46 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 20:58.48 | Gnarfoz | you're right |
| 20:58.56 | Gnarfoz | but that's not the guild I meant |
| 20:59.03 | Stylpe | How come there's no info in the topic about wowace.com being down? |
| 20:59.10 | Gnarfoz | DiF of course... first guild with 3 TF's and 2 sulfuras' :D |
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| 20:59.15 | Stylpe | and more importantly why =P |
| 20:59.20 | trh | Gnarfoz: lol =) |
| 20:59.42 | Gnarfoz | Stylpe: too recent an event, hopefully too short an event to be mentionend; server crashed |
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| 20:59.59 | Stylpe | oh, I just hit the sweet spot then =P |
| 21:00.19 | Gnarfoz | trh: still, that's not the guild I meant then, because DiF was not that zerg guild, but they are the precursor to DS |
| 21:00.32 | trh | Gnarfoz: ya.. they + another guild merged to DS |
| 21:00.32 | Stylpe | Interesting fact: If wowace.com is down, WAU crashes when you try to update |
| 21:00.53 | Gnarfoz | trh: hm. my poor brain^^ I know it's somewhere in there |
| 21:00.54 | BankZ | WAU isnt working? |
| 21:01.03 | Gnarfoz | BankZ: who'd have thought? :D |
| 21:01.08 | Stylpe | No, crashed a few seconds after I hit update |
| 21:01.12 | Mikk | BankZ: wowace.com is down |
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| 21:01.24 | BankZ | that sucks |
| 21:01.41 | Gnarfoz | trh: d'oh I'm stupid. the wiki has a classic progress page, too! they've gotta be there ;) |
| 21:02.06 | Gnarfoz | they are not. :\ |
| 21:02.08 | hypetech | is the server down again? |
| 21:02.18 | Gnarfoz | actually, they dispersed before the wiki existed |
| 21:03.41 | Gnarfoz | trh: a-ha, got them, OvT :> Orden von Tirisfal |
| 21:03.46 | trh | Gnarfoz: ah |
| 21:03.56 | trh | Gnarfoz: i remember |
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| 21:04.27 | jme | i think linux should be last on the blame list |
| 21:04.42 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Mikk |
| 21:04.42 | purl | stamps Mikk on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 21:04.44 | Josh_Borke | how dare you |
| 21:04.59 | jme | i am having trouble getting to this samba share authenticated against an ldap server |
| 21:05.06 | Mikk | well, the box ran outta ram, then it remounted the / filesystem readonly, and then it refused to shutdown -r, and then it refused to come back up again after a power cycle |
| 21:05.13 | jme | well, samba will bind to it, but i can't login the share |
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| 21:05.23 | jme | Mikk: ouch |
| 21:05.34 | Josh_Borke | why did it dismount the / filesystem in the first place? |
| 21:05.51 | Mikk | standard precaution when the FS driver detects errors |
| 21:05.58 | Mikk | remount as readonly |
| 21:06.03 | jme | yeah |
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| 21:06.06 | Mikk | in this case, i'm guessing that the "error" was in fact caused by being outta RAM |
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| 21:06.49 | Kaelten | its not used to using 2 gigs or more of ram |
| 21:06.51 | Kaelten | er swap |
| 21:07.03 | Gnarfoz | trh: lol, no wonder I remembered that fact about DiF...: http://aegwynn.de/wiki/index.php/Bild:Dif.jpg ;D |
| 21:07.04 | jme | hm |
| 21:07.13 | jme | what trinket should i get other than the bloodlust brooch? |
| 21:07.24 | jme | i have my hourglass |
| 21:07.31 | trh | Gnarfoz: what posers :P |
| 21:07.36 | Gnarfoz | indeed :D |
| 21:07.43 | Gnarfoz | no one poses on my realm :< |
| 21:07.44 | Gnarfoz | it's sad |
| 21:07.55 | trh | it's carebear world :P |
| 21:08.02 | phawx | anyone know of a mod that will track 'healing threat' |
| 21:08.07 | Gnarfoz | but okay, there's also just about no one who would have anything to pose about, really |
| 21:08.37 | trh | are the aq40 gates open yet? :P |
| 21:08.51 | [S|imcea] | Well just like to check if it's just me, but can anyone access the Wowace website? |
| 21:08.57 | Mikk | it's down |
| 21:08.58 | jme | no |
| 21:09.07 | [S|imcea] | ah okay |
| 21:09.11 | [S|imcea] | so it isn't just me |
| 21:09.15 | jme | Mikk: that should be in the topic or something :( |
| 21:09.20 | Mikk | orly |
| 21:09.20 | jme | Mikk: but then people would still ask. |
| 21:09.24 | Mikk | mhm |
| 21:09.32 | [S|imcea] | Yeah it would help lol |
| 21:09.59 | [S|imcea] | Ah well thanks for the info anyway :) Back to Wow then |
| 21:10.02 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | WowAce.com is done with the exception of svn.wowace.com. |
| 21:10.10 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | WowAce.com is down with the exception of svn.wowace.com. |
| 21:10.14 | Kaelten | bah |
| 21:10.14 | jme | gg |
| 21:10.32 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | WowAce.com is down with the exception of svn.wowace.com. Will pass along info as it becomes available. |
| 21:10.38 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 21:10.45 | jme | longest topic ever |
| 21:11.02 | Mikk | no shit |
| 21:11.05 | Gnarfoz | it seems I never finished watching DrakeDog7, fell asleep (from exhaustion, not boredom ^^)... gonna do that now :> |
| 21:11.28 | jme | ok, so my armory: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil |
| 21:11.33 | jme | do you think i am geared enough for heroics yet? |
| 21:11.42 | Kaelten | we've had a longer topic before. |
| 21:11.43 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:11.57 | Kaelten | tech is going to look at the server |
| 21:12.00 | Kaelten | will know more soon I hope |
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| 21:12.40 | Stylpe | Doesn't WAU use the svn? |
| 21:13.08 | Mikk | no |
| 21:13.29 | Stylpe | Ah, that's why it doesn't work then =P |
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| 21:13.34 | Gnarfoz | jme: certainly, you should do fine in just about any heroic instance |
| 21:14.08 | Gnarfoz | 8k hp is a plus, some of the hunters I grouped with the last days (only finished my last heroic key last friday) had 1 or 2k less |
| 21:14.08 | jme | Gnarfoz: woo |
| 21:14.14 | Kaelten | I'm probably just over compensating for something |
| 21:14.20 | jme | Gnarfoz: ahh |
| 21:14.23 | starlon | Kaelten likes them long |
| 21:14.36 | jme | Gnarfoz: i'm currently only keyed for heroic coilfang and caverns of time |
| 21:14.50 | Gnarfoz | keep in mind, it's not so much about damage (it certainly is important, but not top priority) - CC and survivability is much more crucial |
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| 21:14.58 | mitch1 | how can I set a title for a Dewdrop menu? (wiki seems to be down) |
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| 21:15.07 | jme | Gnarfoz: yeah i figured it was more about CC/focused fire |
| 21:15.39 | Gnarfoz | jme: then I suggest picking out what you need from those two pools of instances and only run those (to save time) and do normal instances from the other groups in the rest of the time ;) |
| 21:16.11 | Gnarfoz | heroic CoT2 is a bitch, didn't do CoT1 yet; slave pens & underbog are easy, had some trouble with too many melees in Steamvaults |
| 21:16.26 | jme | Gnarfoz: ahh |
| 21:16.27 | Gnarfoz | mechanar is quite the BoJ source ^^ 5 if you clear it completely |
| 21:16.38 | jme | cool |
| 21:16.40 | Mikk | 4 if you skip ms firebeiotch |
| 21:16.48 | Gnarfoz | we do her afterwards |
| 21:16.50 | hypetech | ya |
| 21:16.57 | hypetech | fire boss is rough in heroic mech without FR |
| 21:16.58 | sbu | uhm, i dont like that boss |
| 21:17.04 | sbu | since last patch |
| 21:17.10 | starlon | she's easy |
| 21:17.14 | Gnarfoz | pala aura was enough for us, didn't have any trouble really |
| 21:17.25 | Gnarfoz | it's harder, obviously, but not impossible by any definition ^^ |
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| 21:17.27 | hypetech | depends on your tank |
| 21:17.33 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 21:17.36 | hypetech | fire elementals move a lot faster too |
| 21:17.45 | Xuerian | I found a version of yatlas that works... for outlands... |
| 21:17.45 | Gnarfoz | the move at normal run speed instead of slow |
| 21:17.54 | hypetech | ya |
| 21:17.54 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: yay for you? :) |
| 21:17.55 | dylanm | Xuerian: What where |
| 21:17.56 | hypetech | it sucks |
| 21:18.13 | Punkie` | Is wowace actually getting DoSed? |
| 21:18.19 | Punkie` | or is that just a rumour |
| 21:18.20 | anholt | still easy with the last patch. just have one person initiate the fight and kite them down the hall, and the tank picks her out of the group. nobody interacts with the fire elementals or kiter, and then the elementals never switch targets. |
| 21:18.27 | hypetech | Punkie`: it's probably Kenco :p |
| 21:18.27 | Gnarfoz | Punkie`: rumour. |
| 21:18.32 | Xuerian | dylanm: Ender's svn looked down, but a cache link revealed that only the front page for it was. It's still up (And publicly browsable) from here: http://endif.cjb.net/svn/wowui/ |
| 21:18.34 | Punkie` | heh |
| 21:18.38 | Chompers | thought it was someone mirroring |
| 21:18.44 | Gnarfoz | anholt: not kiteable |
| 21:19.00 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: eles are kiteable :P |
| 21:19.03 | Punkie` | If it was someone mirroring it should be ok by now |
| 21:19.05 | hypetech | heh, I know a girl named Miranda that's just like that |
| 21:19.07 | anholt | works for us. you have to pick her off early. |
| 21:19.11 | Gnarfoz | they pick targets randomly right at the beginning, how is that kiteable? o_O |
| 21:19.16 | dylanm | Xuerian: Nice! |
| 21:19.21 | starlon | they switch target now |
| 21:19.25 | anholt | there is only one person in the fight at the beginning. the rest of us are in the hall. |
| 21:19.26 | Punkie` | If it's someone DoSing the box, that person is doing half a job :P |
| 21:19.29 | dylanm | Xuerian: Yatlas is how the map should be :p |
| 21:19.35 | starlon | she won't go down the hall now |
| 21:19.39 | Xuerian | dylanm: And how Carto was going to be =X |
| 21:19.43 | anholt | correct. |
| 21:19.58 | jme | Gnarfoz: i think the only heroic rewards i really want are the blood knight war cloak and the bloodlust brooch |
| 21:20.02 | Gnarfoz | heh, neat abuse of the 'she should reset when people go there' "fix" |
| 21:20.06 | hypetech | Xuerian: is going* |
| 21:20.13 | jme | unless i get the drape of the dark reavers first. |
| 21:20.15 | anholt | group is just beyond the cement. kiter starts the fight, runs by them. as she is nearing the glass, tank moves in and grabs her, staying on the cement. |
| 21:20.17 | Xuerian | hypetech: O_o |
| 21:20.40 | Gnarfoz | anholt: where does the kiter go with the eles after that? |
| 21:20.53 | anholt | down the hall. they're perfectly happy to do so -- it's her that matters. |
| 21:20.59 | Gnarfoz | lol easy mode |
| 21:21.15 | jme | hmm |
| 21:21.17 | Gnarfoz | gotta try that as soon as I get there the next time |
| 21:21.24 | jme | md to pet, eyes of the beast, kite around with pet |
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| 21:21.57 | Gnarfoz | jme: not much use in that, it's not like your char is doing anything in the meantime besides possibly get pummeled by the boss herself ^^ |
| 21:22.01 | Mikk | jme: you might get eles on you that way |
| 21:22.07 | Mikk | since you're on the aggro table |
| 21:22.11 | jme | that was mostly a joke ;) |
| 21:22.32 | Josh_Borke | good luck with the server kael |
| 21:22.36 | Mikk | anyway, everyone knows MD must be saved for stealthed rogues when you're about to wipe |
| 21:22.51 | jme | (as Josh_Borke snickers something about a forkbomb) |
| 21:23.06 | Xuerian | hypetech: I thought ck was done with carto, essentially... And I wasn't aware of anyone else working on it. Or am I missing something? |
| 21:23.08 | jme | Mikk: stealthed rogues where? |
| 21:23.21 | yacoob | BEHIND YOU WATCH OU*eviscerate* |
| 21:23.22 | Mikk | s/stealthed/vanished/ |
| 21:23.26 | jme | yacoob: :o |
| 21:23.40 | yacoob | don't blame me, I'm already running to my corpse. |
| 21:23.50 | Gnarfoz | hm, MD is what, again? |
| 21:23.51 | jme | heh |
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| 21:24.09 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: misdirect |
| 21:24.12 | jme | some bluebie gnome rogue jumped me in nagrand... pissed me off so i killed him |
| 21:24.13 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 21:24.25 | Stan__ | ace updater still not working :( |
| 21:24.33 | Mikk | Stan__: wowace.com down |
| 21:24.44 | Stan__ | weeee :( |
| 21:24.45 | jme | aha, last night i was questing on the belves in smv and a rogue was on his flying mount above my target |
| 21:24.52 | Stan__ | Mikk: reason? |
| 21:24.56 | Gnarfoz | Stan__: crashed |
| 21:25.03 | jme | my macro accidentally targeted him and marked him, so i switched to my target, and he killed me anyway |
| 21:25.04 | Stan__ | hm |
| 21:25.06 | Stan__ | sucks |
| 21:25.14 | Jumoor | files.wowace down? |
| 21:25.20 | Mikk | wowace.com |
| 21:25.23 | jme | read the topic people |
| 21:25.28 | jme | Mikk: i told you it wouldn't work |
| 21:25.33 | Mikk | i know |
| 21:25.34 | Saroz | gief SVN :( |
| 21:25.40 | Gnarfoz | Saroz: the svn is there |
| 21:25.45 | Mikk | i never disagreed :P |
| 21:25.48 | Mikk | no, svn.wowace.com = readonly |
| 21:25.49 | Gnarfoz | dev. is not, at least the topic doesn't imply that |
| 21:25.49 | Jumoor | the topic is too long |
| 21:26.01 | Gnarfoz | he just asked for svn, not for r/w ^^ |
| 21:26.07 | Saroz | Error: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/BigWigs_Azeroth': could not connect to server (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 21:26.07 | Mikk | duh :P |
| 21:26.19 | jme | quick, everyone do a mass checkout of the entire svn repository so we have backups! |
| 21:26.27 | durcyn | well, the topic is 20 damn miles wide, i'm sure that doesn' thelp |
| 21:26.33 | Mikk | svn.wowace.com _IS_ a backup |
| 21:26.40 | jme | Mikk: sssh |
| 21:26.47 | jme | Mikk: offsite backups! |
| 21:27.10 | Mikk | it _IS_ offiste |
| 21:27.13 | Kirkburn|afk | ~whaleparry |
| 21:27.24 | Josh_Borke | i've got a backup with the same id as dev |
| 21:27.25 | jme | Mikk: fine. :p |
| 21:27.38 | Mikk | www.wowace.com = 209.9.227.66 svn.wowace.com = 91.121.34.13 ... sound offsite enough for you? :P |
| 21:28.04 | jme | Mikk: you win. |
| 21:28.13 | Josh_Borke | psh, ips mean nothing |
| 21:28.26 | Josh_Borke | show me pictures |
| 21:29.00 | Mikk | O <--- www.wowace.com ........................... (long distance) .......................... svn.wowace.com ---> O |
| 21:29.03 | Mikk | kk? |
| 21:29.07 | Gnarfoz | he doesn't really win, because svn is not a backup of www, right? :D |
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| 21:29.10 | steevdave | actually |
| 21:29.14 | steevdave | you can't do a full checkout |
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| 21:30.06 | Kirkburn|afk | The Flight of the Conchords are awesome |
| 21:30.11 | durcyn | it's an svnsync from dev |
| 21:30.16 | durcyn | relax. |
| 21:30.42 | Kirkburn|afk | I cannot explain what I just heard, but safe to say, I could not stop laughing |
| 21:31.29 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: or, put another way, if you go digging, you'll see that one netblock is in the US, and the other is in France. Doesn't get much more separated than that :P |
| 21:31.47 | Josh_Borke | the ip is tunneled over to the other machine, don't lie |
| 21:31.56 | Mikk | right :P |
| 21:32.17 | Kirkburn|afk | svn is in France? |
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| 21:32.35 | Kirkburn|afk | (50:50 chance to be correct ftw) |
| 21:34.22 | NightHawkAtWork | your mom's in france |
| 21:34.29 | Kaelten | hoster is giving me an eta of 20 mins :s |
| 21:34.41 | Kirkburn|afk | omgomgomg |
| 21:35.08 | Josh_Borke | they suck |
| 21:35.20 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahaha WOW. |
| 21:35.20 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.telegram.com/article/20070701/COLUMN01/70701002/1004/NEWS04 |
| 21:38.26 | Kaelten | flight of the conchords is good :) |
| 21:38.38 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc|Work: LOL awesome |
| 21:38.46 | Kaelten | I wish I could find their cd online somewhere |
| 21:38.57 | Kaelten | but my music service don't know them |
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| 21:41.01 | Firedancer | antiarc: where did this reporter get their info lol. lifeson is not the lead singer...geddy lee is haha. I find that amusing because I saw Rush on saturday ^_^ |
| 21:42.10 | Firedancer | but yeah. just WOW to that whole scenario :p |
| 21:42.31 | QuantumDelta | is there anyone in here i can poke about wowaceupdater? (in terms of a possible feature request for a later version? xP) |
| 21:43.11 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:43.14 | Stan__ | #wau |
| 21:43.17 | Stan__ | :p |
| 21:43.20 | QuantumDelta | ta ;p |
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| 21:44.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: that's awesome. |
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| 21:53.56 | Sole | good morning |
| 21:55.25 | NightHawkAtWork | mourning. |
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| 22:03.43 | smoke_ | whats wrong w/ the aceupdater? |
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| 22:03.51 | smoke_ | says target machine is actively refusing my updates or something? |
| 22:04.07 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: maybe he also wants to buy a bridge? |
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| 22:05.47 | Gnarfoz | smoke_: server down. |
| 22:07.05 | dalvarez | hi |
| 22:07.13 | dalvarez | Kaelten: we have a tech down there now |
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| 22:28.07 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: using 100% memory now? :D |
| 22:28.15 | Kaelten | ? |
| 22:28.20 | Funkeh` | its completely down :p |
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| 22:28.42 | Kaelten | its stuck on fdisk last I heard |
| 22:28.46 | Kaelten | tech is working on it |
| 22:29.04 | sbu | fdisk or fsck? :o |
| 22:29.06 | Funkeh` | need to blame someone |
| 22:29.17 | sbu | Funkeh`: Antiarc|Work or mikma? |
| 22:29.24 | mikma | wa? |
| 22:29.26 | Funkeh` | mikma: |
| 22:29.30 | Funkeh` | its your fault |
| 22:29.33 | Funkeh` | fix the server |
| 22:29.33 | Kaelten | er, me no know |
| 22:29.34 | mikma | ok |
| 22:29.41 | mikma | well i got newsflash for you |
| 22:29.42 | mikma | lol noob! |
| 22:29.43 | dalvarez | Kaelten: yea it's taking a long time |
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| 22:29.49 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:29.50 | dalvarez | to fsck |
| 22:30.03 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 22:30.07 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.15 | dalvarez | fdisk is totally different |
| 22:30.18 | Kaelten | dalvarez still not sure exactly what happened |
| 22:30.21 | dalvarez | you'd be in trouble if it was fdisk =) |
| 22:30.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:30.29 | dalvarez | Kaelten: most likely the machine crashed |
| 22:30.29 | Kaelten | whats fsck? |
| 22:30.33 | dalvarez | kernel freeze |
| 22:30.36 | sbu | fsck = file system check |
| 22:30.42 | dalvarez | could be anything |
| 22:30.46 | dalvarez | how large are the drives? |
| 22:30.50 | Kaelten | 250 |
| 22:30.54 | sbu | fdisk = file system partitioning tool ;o |
| 22:31.02 | Antiarc|Work | If you're fdisking, hope you have backups. |
| 22:31.03 | Kaelten | woops |
| 22:31.05 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:31.08 | dalvarez | nah it's fsck'ing |
| 22:31.21 | dalvarez | Talking to the tech that's down there atm |
| 22:31.32 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/ :D |
| 22:31.38 | Kaelten | dalvarez: any idea why my remote serial wasn't giving me any info? |
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| 22:31.48 | dalvarez | Kaelten: yea i'm not sure whatsup with that |
| 22:31.51 | dalvarez | i'll look into it |
| 22:31.55 | dalvarez | I designed the system |
| 22:31.58 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 22:31.59 | Antiarc|Work | dalvarez = tech? |
| 22:32.00 | dalvarez | so if it's on our end i'll know |
| 22:32.01 | Antiarc|Work | Yays |
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| 22:32.12 | daemoen | hey guys, having issues figuring out how to configure bartender :-D |
| 22:32.20 | Josh_Borke | dalvarez == site support? |
| 22:32.23 | BankZ | Does FishingAce work for you guys? |
| 22:32.38 | dalvarez | Nah i just work for the company |
| 22:32.42 | symian | Hi, I'm trying to hunt down an event and I was hoping someone with more expertice could help. What event indicates that WoW is ready for the player to send another email? MAIL_SEND_SUCCESS does not seem to work. |
| 22:32.43 | Kaelten | ya I was trying to use it to see what was going on it'd get tto the point saing ctrl+] is the escape char |
| 22:32.44 | dalvarez | and i'm a wowhead |
| 22:32.45 | dalvarez | ;p |
| 22:33.04 | symian | It should be the same event that shows the string "Mail Sent.", I believe. |
| 22:33.20 | dalvarez | Kaelten: when was the last time you used it? |
| 22:33.28 | Kaelten | before today? |
| 22:33.31 | Kaelten | long long time ago |
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| 22:33.45 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 22:33.47 | Josh_Borke | user error |
| 22:33.54 | nevcairiel | you generally dont use it when nothing is broken :D |
| 22:33.59 | nevcairiel | ssh is so much smoother :) |
| 22:34.05 | Josh_Borke | i use my kvm all the time |
| 22:34.11 | Josh_Borke | it's fun to piss off coworkers |
| 22:34.25 | Kaelten | I don't think this is kvm |
| 22:34.31 | Josh_Borke | i mean, uh |
| 22:35.43 | dalvarez | Kaelten: it could just be the machine froze - when the kernel is booted and the system is up try it again |
| 22:35.58 | liquiem | Kaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/70250 after starting latest wau 1.9 series "retrieving addons" |
| 22:36.03 | daemoen | how do i relocate the bars? |
| 22:36.10 | daemoen | ( in bartender ) |
| 22:36.19 | Gnarfoz | liquiem: server is down |
| 22:36.21 | dalvarez | Kaelten: i bet you just have inittab setup for serial and not the kernel |
| 22:36.27 | dalvarez | Kaelten: who's the main sys admin? |
| 22:36.34 | liquiem | mkay |
| 22:36.35 | Punkie` | do people not read the welcome message? |
| 22:36.42 | Kaelten | Punkie`: nope |
| 22:36.44 | Gnarfoz | liquiem: (which is stated quite clearly, in your language, in the error message ^^) |
| 22:37.07 | Punkie` | look up |
| 22:37.14 | Punkie` | pretty visible in my IRC client |
| 22:37.20 | daemoen | lol, i already read it :p |
| 22:37.27 | daemoen | i read it when i entered |
| 22:37.35 | liquiem | sorry, didnt get the topic change :( |
| 22:37.41 | Kaelten | dalvarez: I've done most of the server setup |
| 22:37.50 | Punkie` | Kaelten: In WAU 2.1 make an error message 'Server is down and we definately know about it' |
| 22:37.51 | Kaelten | a few guys help me out do maintance when I'm not around. |
| 22:37.57 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:38.15 | dalvarez | Kaelten: if you need help you should let me know |
| 22:38.22 | Punkie` | good night! |
| 22:38.23 | dalvarez | It could be my little contribution to the community =) |
| 22:38.27 | Punkie` | gl with the server kaelten |
| 22:38.29 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 22:38.32 | NeoTron | Hrm. Auto Assault officially cancelling by end of august |
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| 22:38.46 | NeoTron | bummer that game. Great concept and lots of fun while I played it |
| 22:39.33 | Kaelten | ya it sounded like fun |
| 22:39.54 | Kaelten | a lot better than the turn based vehicular combat game |
| 22:40.03 | trh_ | death rally was cool :) |
| 22:40.16 | NeoTron | another game that was released too early |
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| 22:40.46 | NeoTron | and also had various smaller or larger design issues (the social aspect wasn't really there making it a somewhere poor MMO experience) |
| 22:41.09 | NeoTron | even things like in-game mailbox, auction house and at least some degree of emotes would have helped initially |
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| 22:42.25 | NeoTron | I'm still hoping for a good sci-fi mmo |
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| 22:43.22 | NeoTron | most of all though I want a Mech Warrior MMO :) |
| 22:44.14 | Sole | is it safe to use WAU2 now? |
| 22:44.35 | Stan__ | java is gay :( |
| 22:44.37 | Gagorian | wowace is down so can't check the API. If I schedule an event with the same name will the old get overwrited or do I have to cancel the event? |
| 22:45.28 | Antiarc|Work | The old one gets overwritten |
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| 22:45.37 | Sole | gets overwritten |
| 22:45.49 | Antiarc|Work | So if you schedule it for 1 sec, then 0.4 sec later schedule a new event with the same name, the old gets overwritten so the event gets fired 1.4 sec after the first scheduling |
| 22:46.09 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Do you remember that Planetside-esque mechwarrior MMO? |
| 22:46.36 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: k thanks |
| 22:47.33 | [S|imcea] | Anyone experiencing issues with WoW itself? |
| 22:47.39 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, what's the name of the bolt from the Lightning Capacitor? |
| 22:47.47 | Antiarc|Work | Please don't let it be "Lightning Bolt" |
| 22:47.48 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude 07SimpleChatMods * r42537 10funkydude/channelnames.lua: SimpleChatMods: possible bugfix |
| 22:48.05 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: Table './smfdb/smf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired |
| 22:48.11 | Kaelten | what? |
| 22:48.13 | Kaelten | its back up? |
| 22:48.16 | dalvarez | YUP |
| 22:48.17 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 22:48.19 | dalvarez | err yup |
| 22:48.22 | Funkeh` | but spouts that error |
| 22:48.28 | dalvarez | Kaelten: try the serial connection |
| 22:48.36 | dalvarez | he just tested the cable and it worked fine |
| 22:48.36 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: can't say I do |
| 22:48.38 | starlon | It's Lightning Bolt ;) |
| 22:48.48 | Antiarc|Work | Dammitall. Now I have to check for the aura. |
| 22:48.49 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: first mmo I really played was SWG.. |
| 22:49.04 | Antiarc|Work | There was one in beta |
| 22:49.11 | Antiarc|Work | It got cancelled, but it was great. |
| 22:49.24 | NeoTron | so I guess a shaman might have a use for the lightning capacitor.. but it's rather useless to me as a warlock |
| 22:49.28 | Antiarc|Work | You chose allegiance to a clan and then fought battles for territory in a persistant world |
| 22:49.30 | NeoTron | waht a bummer |
| 22:49.30 | Ominous | Kaelten: "Table './smfdb/smf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired" on the forums |
| 22:49.38 | Kaelten | dalvarez: when you try to logout it bugs ff on mac btw |
| 22:49.40 | Antiarc|Work | BattleTech: 3025 |
| 22:49.40 | Antiarc|Work | That's it. |
| 22:49.52 | Antiarc|Work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BattleTech_3025 |
| 22:50.03 | Punkie` | Oh really Ominous, that's news to him I'm sure :p |
| 22:50.32 | Punkie` | it was forceful |
| 22:50.50 | CIA-22 | 03eblume * r42538 10GuildMail/GuildMail.lua: |
| 22:50.50 | CIA-22 | GuildMail: |
| 22:50.50 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.55 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: damn. A MechWarrior/BattleTech style mmo would have been sexxy. |
| 22:51.12 | starlon | lol perfectly still |
| 22:51.12 | Antiarc|Work | I played the alpha/beta for a while. Really liked it. |
| 22:51.26 | abug | the mailbox likes it slow |
| 22:51.38 | starlon | Flame Wreath, click slowly |
| 22:51.41 | Gnarfoz | how can you click slowly? |
| 22:51.43 | symian | Heh. eblume is me, BTW. |
| 22:51.59 | symian | Well, I make it disable the button and wait 1.5 seconds before re-enabling it. |
| 22:52.12 | symian | If anyone can tell me what event triggers the system being ready for new mail, I'd love that. |
| 22:52.26 | symian | Otherwise names get skipped all the time. |
| 22:52.29 | nevcairiel | there is no such thing |
| 22:52.29 | Kaelten | dalvarez: working now |
| 22:52.42 | symian | Fair enough. Ok, well, that'll do for now then. |
| 22:52.55 | nevcairiel | did you look at other mail addons with mass-send features? |
| 22:52.59 | Kaelten | dalvarez: send Brian my thanks |
| 22:53.21 | symian | nevcairiel, I'm looking at them, but most seem to be poorly written, which is why I'm working on it. |
| 22:53.31 | symian | Obviously I'm not there yet. :-D |
| 22:53.36 | BankZ | Anyone know of a good artical on best ATI driver settings for WOW? |
| 22:53.44 | NeoTron | I need to take an evening and truly work on my UI. Start over from scratch and not include addons I don't need |
| 22:54.06 | abug | omega drivers? |
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| 22:54.29 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 22:54.30 | Gnarfoz | ati |
| 22:54.44 | abug | the guy who made the omega drivers play wow |
| 22:54.47 | Gnarfoz | (I don't get how people use modified binary drivers) |
| 22:54.56 | Pkekyo | hi peeps...I'm looking for an addon to add artwork to my UI...pref. Ace addon...any tips? |
| 22:55.13 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 22:56.43 | Antiarc|Work | Arrrgh Blizzard. |
| 22:56.52 | Antiarc|Work | Why'd you have to make the Lightning Capacitor proc a Lightning Bolt? |
| 22:57.06 | nevcairiel | because it makes sense ? :D |
| 22:57.17 | BankZ | <abug>: Im not asking for the best drivers, I want the best settings :) |
| 22:57.18 | Srosh | To screw you up. Personally. :P |
| 22:57.30 | BankZ | unless there is something on their site |
| 22:57.31 | Antiarc|Work | Why couldn't they have called the spell Lightning Discharge or something? |
| 22:57.31 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: You'd rather the Lightning Capacitor proc a Frost Bolt? :D |
| 22:57.46 | Antiarc|Work | Because now I have to figure out of it's a Lightning Cap proc or just an elemental shaman. |
| 22:57.49 | Kaelten | sites back :) |
| 22:58.03 | abug | mob it! |
| 22:59.47 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42539 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: |
| 22:59.47 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Reset buff multipliers on death and rez. Should fix combat rez |
| 22:59.47 | CIA-22 | threat gen problems. Added a handler for the Lightning Capacitor, but doesn't |
| 22:59.47 | CIA-22 | work for Shaman yet, because I have to figure out how to differentiate their |
| 22:59.47 | CIA-22 | lightning bolts from the capacitor's bolts. Also, warriors spell reflecting |
| 22:59.48 | CIA-22 | lightning bolts will receive a 50% threat reduction from them, but seriously, |
| 22:59.52 | CIA-22 | does that really matter? |
| 22:59.53 | hypetech | hmm..BigWigs should be a lot more obvious for Cave Ins at Gruul's. BigWigs is much easier to tell during that fight |
| 23:00.14 | hypetech | err |
| 23:00.15 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | WowAce.com is back up! Sorry for the problem :) |
| 23:00.18 | hypetech | DBM is much easier* |
| 23:00.27 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | WowAce.com is back up! Sorry for the outage :) |
| 23:00.28 | Antiarc|Work | The big DONG tells me that I'm in a Cave-In |
| 23:00.31 | Antiarc|Work | Not too hard to tell, IMO |
| 23:00.32 | Funkeh` | quite |
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| 23:00.40 | hypetech | I don't hear a big DONG |
| 23:00.42 | abug | hard if you're deaf |
| 23:00.42 | BankZ | I like BigWigs better than DBM |
| 23:00.54 | hypetech | I like BigWigs better than DBM too, just not in Gruuls |
| 23:00.55 | Antiarc|Work | It also says CAVE IN ON YOU |
| 23:00.56 | Funkeh` | sorry but we make bigwigs non-intrusive |
| 23:00.58 | Antiarc|Work | But *shrug* |
| 23:01.07 | durcyn | dbm eats babies |
| 23:01.07 | Funkeh` | you won't see a big OMG YOU ARE IN VOID ZONE IDIOT warning |
| 23:01.10 | starlon | scrolling combat log tells me I'm in cave in |
| 23:01.14 | hypetech | CAVE IN ON YOU comes up so randomly that it doesn't matter |
| 23:01.47 | Funkeh` | randomly? |
| 23:01.51 | Funkeh` | it comes up when you ar ein one |
| 23:01.54 | kebinusan | I always manage to see the cavein debuff on my buff bar fairly easily |
| 23:02.00 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: You should really remove that rand() from the cave-in function |
| 23:02.05 | hypetech | :( |
| 23:02.15 | hypetech | it comes up sometimes even when you aren't in one |
| 23:02.18 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: lol |
| 23:02.22 | BankZ | I ran DBM and BigWigs togther for a long time until I just DBM |
| 23:02.30 | BankZ | they are pretty close |
| 23:02.31 | Funkeh` | hypetech: lol never noticed that |
| 23:02.39 | kebinusan | Ive never really been fond of dbm |
| 23:02.43 | Funkeh` | hypetech: it comes up when you are afflicted by it |
| 23:02.48 | BankZ | just liked the BigWig timers better (but tge DBM look cooler) |
| 23:02.50 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 23:02.53 | Kaelten | people noticed |
| 23:02.54 | Kaelten | Uptime21 min 42 s |
| 23:02.55 | Kaelten | Started at2007-07-02 18:40:44 |
| 23:02.55 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 23:02.55 | Kaelten | Requests23 kreq |
| 23:02.55 | Kaelten | Traffic4.34 Gbyte |
| 23:02.57 | Funkeh` | dbm is probably slow and waits until you are damaged by it |
| 23:03.03 | Funkeh` | at which point its probably too late |
| 23:03.14 | hypetech | dbm is spot on |
| 23:03.22 | hypetech | and it goes away immediatley when you get out of it |
| 23:03.32 | hypetech | I wouldn't be arguing for DBM if it got me killed there :p |
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| 23:03.40 | Funkeh` | i couldn't really care |
| 23:03.45 | Funkeh` | it works for me and my guild |
| 23:03.49 | Funkeh` | so im not changing it |
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| 23:03.51 | kebinusan | Boss mods shouldnt really get you killed anywhere honestly |
| 23:03.53 | kebinusan | they are reminders |
| 23:03.57 | kebinusan | at best |
| 23:04.16 | BankZ | I think they are both good, I just use BigWigs, most ppl in my guild run DBM |
| 23:04.19 | hypetech | with cave-ins, it's just hard to tell if you're standing in it or beside it |
| 23:04.59 | NeoTron | since it uses the debuff on you I doubt it'll trigger if you're not standing in it |
| 23:05.19 | kebinusan | Bigwigs also tries to be strategy agnostic with the warnings and not tell people what to do... honestly if you dont know to move out of a cave in one really has to ask if you even bothered to understand the fight you are attempting |
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| 23:06.03 | hypetech | what? nobody said anything about not knowing that you should move out of a cave in |
| 23:06.10 | hypetech | said it's hard to tell when you're in one |
| 23:06.21 | kebinusan | theres a warning message isnt there? |
| 23:06.21 | hypetech | and I know I'm about to hear something about big fucking rocks |
| 23:06.31 | kebinusan | I swear Ive gotten one in msbt |
| 23:06.38 | hypetech | I don't have msbt... |
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| 23:06.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaelten, 4.34GB in 20 mins?? |
| 23:07.02 | Funkeh` | doesn't matter what you have its the same warning |
| 23:07.06 | Funkeh` | let me help you understand |
| 23:07.16 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:07.17 | Kaelten | up to 5.2 in 26 |
| 23:07.23 | Kirkburn|afk | o_O |
| 23:07.24 | Funkeh` | cavein_trigger = "You are afflicted by Cave In.", |
| 23:07.31 | Funkeh` | cavein_message = "Cave In on YOU!", |
| 23:07.35 | hypetech | I understand the event |
| 23:07.39 | hypetech | that's not the point |
| 23:07.40 | hypetech | forget it |
| 23:07.41 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:07.46 | hypetech | who cares |
| 23:07.49 | Srosh | that's.. sick (@ bw usage)# |
| 23:08.04 | Funkeh` | i know, i like to overcomplicate things don't i |
| 23:08.10 | Funkeh` | such a complicated trigger |
| 23:08.43 | simeng | The dungeon collapses. You die. |
| 23:08.44 | Funkeh` | i.e. there is no chance on this earth it can be wrong unless blizzard did something wrong |
| 23:08.52 | Funkeh` | which i have never noticed on the gruul encounter |
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| 23:09.04 | CIA-22 | 03kirkburn * r42540 10ClearFont2/ (6 files): |
| 23:09.04 | CIA-22 | ClearFont2 |
| 23:09.04 | CIA-22 | - Renamed Changelog.txt to Changelog summary.txt |
| 23:09.04 | CIA-22 | - Readme.txt and Changelog summary.txt updates |
| 23:09.04 | CIA-22 | - Misc code and comment updates |
| 23:09.04 | gnorlish | how did this even start? did someone say "dbm is better than bigwigs" |
| 23:09.06 | hypetech | blah. I didnt' say it was wrong. I said it's hard to notice |
| 23:09.19 | Kirkburn|afk | zomg, teh commitzor |
| 23:09.27 | hypetech | and it doesn't go away after you get out of the cave in right away |
| 23:09.27 | Josh_Borke | bye ya'll |
| 23:09.30 | Funkeh` | right |
| 23:09.36 | NeoTron | hypetech: I get a sound effect and rahter obvious text when I'm afflicted |
| 23:09.37 | Funkeh` | turn sounds up or something |
| 23:09.40 | Funkeh` | should help |
| 23:09.45 | Funkeh` | if you don't hear the dong |
| 23:09.47 | trh_ | oh wowace.com works again |
| 23:09.47 | hypetech | ya, I didn't know it had a sound |
| 23:09.50 | hypetech | that will help |
| 23:09.52 | kebinusan | hypetech: you can change the target area of messages |
| 23:09.52 | Kirkburn|afk | I love how the commit comes up here before it does on my own PC |
| 23:09.58 | hypetech | kebinusan: ooo |
| 23:10.01 | hypetech | that would be helpful |
| 23:10.07 | kebinusan | I was saying I have my bigwigs message sent to the MSBT Notification area |
| 23:10.15 | Funkeh` | Kirkburn|afk: me too |
| 23:10.34 | kebinusan | hypetech go to Bigwigs/Plugins/Mesages/Display |
| 23:10.48 | trh_ | Kaelten: the forums are still very very slow |
| 23:10.51 | hypetech | I tried MSBT yesterday and for some reason it was causing frames to lock up every couple of minutes, so I just took it out. Don't know what that was all about. |
| 23:11.07 | kebinusan | You should be able to set it to sct if you have that as well or other frames such as the chat frame in addition to others |
| 23:11.15 | hypetech | cool |
| 23:11.17 | hypetech | thank you |
| 23:11.27 | trh_ | Kaelten: (on database access) |
| 23:11.48 | kebinusan | You can also change the size/color/location and whatnot of the bigwigs message frame |
| 23:12.51 | hypetech | see, funkeh could have told me that instead of just slapping me with his e-peen :p |
| 23:13.27 | NightHawkAtWork | he really enjoys slapping people with it thoughy |
| 23:13.31 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:14.02 | Pkekyo | hi peeps...I'm looking for an addon to add artwork to my UI...pref. Ace addon...any tips? |
| 23:14.14 | kebinusan | eepanels |
| 23:14.20 | kebinusan | and SharedMedia |
| 23:14.35 | Funkeh` | NightHawkAtWork: :/ |
| 23:14.37 | kebinusan | you can easily add your own textures to shared media and then stick them on an eepanel and move them around |
| 23:15.15 | hypetech | umm...you can apply sharedmedia textures to eepanels? 0.o |
| 23:15.22 | hypetech | wow |
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| 23:15.31 | hypetech | I should play with my mods more |
| 23:16.02 | Funkeh` | sharedmedia rocks |
| 23:18.23 | Pkekyo | kebinusan: eepanels...how does it work? all an ingame thing? |
| 23:20.03 | Pkekyo | and exactly what is sharedmedia? all I can find on the subject is buttloads of health/manabar textures? |
| 23:21.22 | abug | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SharedMediaLib ? |
| 23:21.23 | kebinusan | Theres a readme in the shared media directory detailing how to add your own textures to it if you had some in mind |
| 23:22.01 | Pkekyo | guess I'll have to make some textures... |
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| 23:25.53 | Pkekyo | I'm thinking along the lines of those top and bottom bars you see every now and then on those fancypants UIs... |
| 23:26.28 | Pkekyo | http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6312/uiph6.jpg something like this |
| 23:27.06 | Chompers | holy overkill batman |
| 23:27.25 | Chompers | why's the bottom frame so huge :O |
| 23:27.31 | dodgizzla | that is one butt-ugly ui :P |
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| 23:27.47 | durcyn | looks like a modified royalbar |
| 23:28.01 | Ominous | whats wrong with http://ace.pastey.net/70255 as a svn:externals |
| 23:28.23 | Kirkburn|afk | About that UI .... at least he uses ClearFont:P |
| 23:28.25 | durcyn | Pkekyo: start at wowtextures.com |
| 23:29.05 | durcyn | Pkekyo: see also, XArt |
| 23:29.13 | Chompers | he uses ktm...EVIL |
| 23:29.22 | *** join/#wowace Strigoi (i=ilyad@81.94.26.80) |
| 23:29.24 | hypetech | powerauras |
| 23:29.28 | hypetech | I <3 powerauras |
| 23:29.30 | trh_ | http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/ |
| 23:29.31 | trh_ | lol |
| 23:29.32 | pakoz | yo |
| 23:29.38 | pakoz | any big wigs users around? |
| 23:29.46 | pakoz | oh bleh sry brb, restarting modem |
| 23:31.12 | *** join/#wowace pakoz2 (n=asd@71-93-39-179.static.snlo.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:31.27 | pakoz2 | sry i'm back - any big wigs users around? |
| 23:31.39 | Chompers | i'm sure a few are |
| 23:32.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42541 10/branches/Threat-1.0/: Threat-1.0: Create a branch for translation testing |
| 23:33.49 | Strigoi | hmm getting some bugg with Cowtips http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8192/wow2007070302353682ln8.jpg appears only if you mouseover some unit and then quickly switch to "bank of orgrimmar" board |
| 23:35.08 | Chompers | what revision of cowtip are you using? |
| 23:35.08 | hypetech | hmm |
| 23:35.14 | hypetech | what happened to EzDismount? |
| 23:35.23 | Trancer | what's ezdismount? |
| 23:35.25 | Strigoi | Chompers most recent one |
| 23:35.54 | Trancer | hypetech: oh |
| 23:35.54 | Chompers | r42488? |
| 23:35.57 | Trancer | hypetech: why would you ywant that? |
| 23:36.01 | Trancer | hypetech: it's in default wow now |
| 23:36.07 | Strigoi | Chompers but it doesnt really matter since i think this bugg exist from earlier versions when "fading" feature became available |
| 23:36.23 | hypetech | oh |
| 23:36.27 | Chompers | i had an issue just like that a few versions ago |
| 23:36.29 | Chompers | it's gone now |
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| 23:36.48 | Strigoi | 42444 |
| 23:36.51 | Strigoi | atm |
| 23:37.04 | Strigoi | hm gonna try new one then |
| 23:37.24 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: hm yep, translations are broken :p |
| 23:37.27 | Chompers | if it's a bug ckknight should be on soon |
| 23:38.24 | Strigoi | hmm btw can anyone suggest a good add-on for taking list of raid members |
| 23:38.34 | Strigoi | manually (not with xml string) |
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| 23:40.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin_] by ChanServ |
| 23:40.44 | hypetech | rawr |
| 23:40.50 | hypetech | is the site messed up again? |
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| 23:42.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin_] by ChanServ |
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| 23:42.30 | abug | giving _G a metatable? no-no or yes-yes? |
| 23:42.34 | hypetech | google.com has a lower ping that wowace.com right now btw |
| 23:42.35 | hypetech | :p |
| 23:43.16 | steevdave | mirror wowace on googlecode! |
| 23:43.49 | Strigoi | hmmm nah last revision didn't fix it |
| 23:43.55 | Strigoi | that bugg is still there |
| 23:43.57 | Strigoi | http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6156/wow2007070303405551mj9.jpg |
| 23:43.59 | hypetech | man, downloader is going seriously slow |
| 23:44.24 | steevdave | Strigoi, btw, for manually taking a list of raid members, i sugged, pen and paper |
| 23:44.28 | RogueShadow | what bug are we talking about |
| 23:44.36 | abug | not this one |
| 23:45.14 | RogueShadow | Do you ever get sign's with health bars on them, I do if I mouse over a unit with health then the bank of TB sign |
| 23:45.16 | RogueShadow | and some other's |
| 23:45.39 | Strigoi | yes it works like this |
| 23:45.49 | Strigoi | i think it's problem with fading feature |
| 23:46.03 | hypetech | disable fading |
| 23:46.16 | Strigoi | nope not working still acts like this |
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| 23:47.04 | Strigoi | steevdave that was really smart... but i need addon that just making a list of ppl currently in raid with an abbility to copy it |
| 23:47.22 | Strigoi | i'm sure i had this one before , but i can't remember the name >.< |
| 23:47.59 | aen` | is fubar gonna perma show keyring now? i cant find an option to hide it, and its not on any of the category filters |
| 23:48.53 | aen` | err |
| 23:48.54 | aen` | baggins |
| 23:48.57 | aen` | sorry its late >.< |
| 23:49.27 | hypetech | oh...my....god....can....this....download....any....slower.... =( |
| 23:49.51 | Funkeh` | omg..the..website..is..down -_- |
| 23:49.57 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:51.50 | aen` | anyone? know why baggins showing keyring? |
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| 23:54.33 | Funkeh` | minimize it |
| 23:54.38 | Funkeh` | press the '-' |
| 23:55.09 | Jagobah | '-'/ |
| 23:56.36 | Kaelten | average (5s sliding average) |
| 23:56.36 | Kaelten | Requests103 req/s |
| 23:56.36 | Kaelten | Traffic18.99 Mbyte/s |
| 23:56.37 | Kaelten | wtf? |
| 23:57.00 | Ominous | kaelten: some site leaching off wowace? |
| 23:57.43 | Kaelten | actually doubt it |
| 23:57.49 | Kaelten | there is always a burst after a patch |
| 23:57.56 | Kaelten | and after a downtime |
| 23:58.13 | Ominous | patch? |
| 23:58.42 | Strigoi | downtime in this case i guess |
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