| 00:02.49 | Trancer | hypetech: and the twin emps are bugged :/ |
| 00:02.59 | hypetech | how so? |
| 00:03.15 | Trancer | apparently they can't be killed or enrage or something like that |
| 00:03.20 | hypetech | wow? |
| 00:03.21 | hypetech | lol |
| 00:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:03.30 | Trancer | TBC messed up some bosses |
| 00:03.30 | hypetech | that's a pretty big bug |
| 00:03.44 | Trancer | razorgore is screwed up as well |
| 00:03.52 | Trancer | his adds just keep spawning |
| 00:03.55 | Trancer | even after you killed him |
| 00:04.00 | Trancer | zoning out zoning in doesn't fix |
| 00:04.02 | Trancer | whole raid has to die |
| 00:04.12 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:04.50 | Trancer | oh well, was fun doing BWL at 70 :-) |
| 00:06.03 | Thorgard | Cryect, you broke it.. or something. ;P |
| 00:06.44 | Thorgard | Recount-$Revision: 42357 $\Recount.lua:825: attempt to call method 'ConfigComm' (a nil value) and stuff. |
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| 00:08.14 | Thorgard | nm |
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| 00:12.31 | Thorgard | Cryect, I've a request. A new 'report to' target. A copy-pasteable window. |
| 00:13.08 | Neebler | copy pasta! |
| 00:13.15 | mikma | you're a request. |
| 00:13.20 | Neebler | NO U |
| 00:13.22 | Thorgard | Auch, wang.. |
| 00:13.23 | Thorgard | Recount-$Revision: 42357 $\Tracker.lua:767: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 00:13.24 | Thorgard | ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:457: in function <...terface\AddOns\ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:457> |
| 00:15.05 | Cryect | checking |
| 00:15.10 | Cryect | oh whoops |
| 00:15.45 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42360 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Fixes a var name that was forgotten to be changed |
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| 00:26.54 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42361 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua): |
| 00:26.54 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 00:26.54 | CIA-22 | - Better refreshing when editing bags |
| 00:26.54 | CIA-22 | - Added keyring section to default built in profile |
| 00:29.00 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, I got two Large Primsatic Shards (same item) in the same section, next to eachother. Got the hide duplicate items turned on and set to global. |
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| 00:31.34 | Nargiddley | Thorgard, thats compression if you want them in the same slot |
| 00:31.51 | Thorgard | But.. they're the same shard. :o It's one item |
| 00:31.57 | Nargiddley | oO |
| 00:31.58 | Nargiddley | hm |
| 00:33.03 | Thorgard | Well, reloading my UI solved it |
| 00:33.08 | Nargiddley | what had you been doing before it happened ? |
| 00:34.06 | Thorgard | Disenchanted an item |
| 00:34.11 | Nargiddley | k |
| 00:34.14 | hyperChipmunk | happened to me with grey weapons too |
| 00:34.23 | Nargiddley | would that item have been in the same section with the shards ? |
| 00:34.39 | hyperChipmunk | it was an item that normally would show up in two bags |
| 00:34.58 | hyperChipmunk | it showed up twice in one, and once in the other |
| 00:35.09 | hyperChipmunk | reloading fixed |
| 00:35.19 | hyperChipmunk | dunno if it still does it since those last two updates |
| 00:35.29 | Nargiddley | yeah it'll be a small bug where i'm maintaining the list of items |
| 00:35.40 | Nargiddley | which i havent changed in those so it wont be fixed |
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| 00:36.58 | Funkeh` | KarlThePagan: is tehre a featureset/changelog/svnlog somewhere for wau2? |
| 00:39.38 | Nargiddley | ok i think i know where the problem will come from |
| 00:39.59 | Nargiddley | yep i can reproduce, i'll get it |
| 00:41.43 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 00:41.51 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42362 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Prevent Items showing twice when they match more than one category in a section |
| 00:41.52 | Nargiddley | try that |
| 00:42.02 | hyperChipmunk | that'd be it |
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| 00:43.36 | KarlThePagan | Funkeh`, wowace.com/wau2/ has a link to the trac |
| 00:43.41 | KarlThePagan | i should add a changelog |
| 00:43.54 | Funkeh` | would be nice |
| 00:44.04 | Funkeh` | just wondering how feature full it is at the moment |
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| 00:54.41 | Andune | r42362 Baggins/Baggins.lua: YAY! |
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| 01:12.05 | mitch0 | yo |
| 01:12.37 | mitch0 | does anyone know which addon makes this ARGH sound when I do a lot of damage? |
| 01:12.59 | mitch0 | and how to turn it off? :) |
| 01:14.11 | jme | first epic ever tonight (yes, <- noob) |
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| 01:15.31 | jwwpua | wowaceupdater works fine, but the version numbers show as negative. what's the reason for that? |
| 01:15.39 | sag_ich_nicht | lol epics |
| 01:15.49 | sag_ich_nicht | epic says only something about rarity not quality :P |
| 01:16.46 | jme | worgen claw necklace off huntsman |
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| 01:17.21 | Trancer | mitch0: using Omen? |
| 01:17.34 | mitch0 | yes |
| 01:17.39 | Trancer | Disable the warnings |
| 01:17.52 | KarlThePagan | jwwpua, what version? |
| 01:17.55 | Trancer | It does the argh thing when you go over 90% threat |
| 01:17.57 | mitch0 | erm, should they warn me even if I'm solo? |
| 01:18.08 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:16] <jme> worgen claw necklace off huntsman <--ihateyousomuch |
| 01:18.10 | Trancer | depends on what you've setup for Omen ;p |
| 01:18.15 | jwwpua | KarlThePagan: 1.9.18.142 |
| 01:18.19 | mitch0 | oh. I'll check, thanks |
| 01:18.20 | jwwpua | i mean 412 |
| 01:18.39 | Trancer | Hmm.. need to update WAU, got a weird maximizing bug |
| 01:19.38 | KarlThePagan | Trancer, 1.9? |
| 01:19.47 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: yes |
| 01:19.52 | KarlThePagan | grrrrr |
| 01:20.09 | Trancer | 1.9.18.412 |
| 01:20.10 | KarlThePagan | everyone should just downgrade to 1.8 ;) |
| 01:20.17 | Trancer | :p |
| 01:20.19 | KarlThePagan | or test 2.0 |
| 01:20.31 | Trancer | I tried 2.0, it didn't start :/ |
| 01:20.55 | Trancer | yikes, now the updater crashed (fatal) |
| 01:21.07 | Trancer | P7 : e4 P8 : 2e P9 : system.nullreferenceexception |
| 01:21.07 | Trancer | heh |
| 01:21.20 | KarlThePagan | aw - Trancer if you're on mac sorry :( - if you're on windows click the "get java" link and install java 6 |
| 01:21.28 | KarlThePagan | i'm working on that... tonight |
| 01:21.32 | Trancer | I am on Win32 |
| 01:21.40 | Trancer | But it buggled up a bit |
| 01:21.42 | KarlThePagan | gotta pay back someone I borrowed some gold for my epic flyer ;) |
| 01:21.45 | Trancer | Perhaps I should try IE and not FF2 |
| 01:21.53 | Trancer | Heh :) |
| 01:21.53 | KarlThePagan | browser doesn't matter, just java 6 |
| 01:22.04 | KarlThePagan | if you're on java 6 and it didn't start... join #wau and ping me |
| 01:22.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i head to bed now, good night. |
| 01:22.16 | Trancer | Thought at much, it's the webstart, hmm.. |
| 01:22.21 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 01:22.23 | KarlThePagan | java 6 ;) |
| 01:22.32 | KarlThePagan | a few days back i was... kinda messing with it |
| 01:22.33 | KarlThePagan | lol |
| 01:22.42 | Trancer | ah.. that might've been the cause ;-) |
| 01:23.01 | KarlThePagan | haha I should put that kind of stuff in the changelog ;) |
| 01:24.14 | KarlThePagan | java webstart is tricky |
| 01:24.24 | Trancer | hmm.. |
| 01:24.32 | KarlThePagan | the website's cache can screw it up... and so can your browser cache... it makes me cry a little |
| 01:24.33 | Trancer | doesn't start, lets check my java env. |
| 01:24.36 | KarlThePagan | not as much as RCP |
| 01:25.03 | Trancer | ah 1.4.1 |
| 01:28.23 | Thorgard | Huzzah, wipe on 'Cheezar. |
| 01:28.58 | Trancer | weee.. WAU2 started |
| 01:30.19 | CIA-22 | 03sutorix * r42364 10FishingAce/Locale-deDE.lua: FishingAce: Update deDE locale |
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| 01:32.04 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: oh humbug, it default goes without externals *cry*, whole addon folder is a mess now ;-) |
| 01:33.12 | KarlThePagan | Trancer, :( sorry heh |
| 01:33.27 | Trancer | It's not too bad |
| 01:33.37 | Trancer | Could have known, seeing it being a beta and all :-) |
| 01:33.38 | KarlThePagan | yea it actually removed the old addons so you won't have any extra folders ;) |
| 01:33.52 | KarlThePagan | but ... you might be missing one or two dependencies |
| 01:34.06 | KarlThePagan | just a few I bet... babble is a likely one |
| 01:34.17 | Trancer | it fetched babble |
| 01:34.21 | KarlThePagan | ok cool |
| 01:34.34 | Trancer | I will test WAU2 a bit |
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| 01:34.53 | Trancer | Expect some bug reports I guess, I am one of those users that always manages to destroy stuff >< |
| 01:34.58 | KarlThePagan | yay |
| 01:35.01 | Trancer | (ebay hires me to behave like a moron user) |
| 01:35.21 | KarlThePagan | there is a rumored but unreported addon deleting bug |
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| 01:35.38 | KarlThePagan | the application logs are in Application Data/WowAceUpdater |
| 01:35.45 | Trancer | k |
| 01:36.00 | Trancer | hihi, got a nice bug already |
| 01:36.03 | Trancer | let's see if I can replicate it :p |
| 01:36.48 | Trancer | ah no bug, just messy hmhm |
| 01:36.59 | Trancer | ah well, go get cash for epic bird now |
| 01:37.00 | Trancer | much more important! |
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| 01:40.56 | Funkeh` | Nargiddley: i still have tons of slots after updating |
| 01:41.26 | Nargiddley | did you change the keyring category ? |
| 01:41.57 | Funkeh` | no |
| 01:42.03 | Funkeh` | but you said you changed it by default |
| 01:42.29 | Nargiddley | i changed the default one, but those are only loaded at first run |
| 01:42.50 | Nargiddley | you just have to untick Ignore empty slots on the rule |
| 01:42.52 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:43.17 | Funkeh` | thats really anoying, and im sure it will be for everyone else |
| 01:43.20 | Nargiddley | i cant easily update categories people have defined, since they can edit them |
| 01:43.37 | Funkeh` | i have defined nothing |
| 01:43.41 | Nargiddley | ok |
| 01:43.50 | Nargiddley | then load default categories |
| 01:43.51 | Funkeh` | all i did was choose all in one orted |
| 01:43.56 | Funkeh` | sorted* |
| 01:44.37 | Funkeh` | right i loaded it again and it changed |
| 01:45.31 | Funkeh` | btw why are shields not classified in the weapons section |
| 01:45.57 | Nargiddley | the game classifies them as armor i guess |
| 01:46.25 | Funkeh` | i call anything you can do damage with a weapon :p |
| 01:46.30 | Nargiddley | yeah Armor - Shields |
| 01:46.33 | Nargiddley | hm |
| 01:46.50 | Nargiddley | and since they go in the offhand it might be better to be grouped with weapons |
| 01:47.08 | Funkeh` | indeed |
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| 01:53.28 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42365 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Group Shields with weapons by default |
| 01:53.33 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 01:54.25 | Nargiddley | hey |
| 01:55.23 | ckknight | Antiarc: ping |
| 01:56.54 | Hjalte | Nargiddley, I really like Baggins, but god, you have to find out an easier way to set it up. Like when you add default categories with items that i already have in other self-made categories. Just the thought of working it out makes my head hurt. |
| 01:57.24 | ckknight | lol, dotted made a good analogy. KTM = IE, Threat-1.0 = Firefox |
| 01:57.26 | ckknight | :-p |
| 01:57.37 | hyperChipmunk | KTM = AOL |
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| 01:57.47 | Nargiddley | anything i do to default categories doesnt effect you untill you load a profile |
| 01:59.54 | Hjalte | Nargiddley, might just be my own categories showing their faults when you made the hide duplicate items feature not work for a little while. Something that would be really nice however, would be to be able to prioritice some categories over others in regards to the hide duplicate items feature. |
| 02:00.14 | Nargiddley | yeah that should be coming |
| 02:00.46 | Nargiddley | gotta get the edit bag/category windows rewritten to allow extra options like that first tho |
| 02:02.03 | Thorgard | Anyone ever had issues with 'Cheezar turning 'friendly' and not attacking people/letting people attack? |
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| 02:02.52 | Hjalte | Who's Cheezar? |
| 02:04.07 | theoddone33 | prince malcheezar |
| 02:04.09 | theoddone33 | I'm guessing |
| 02:05.11 | Hjalte | Thorgard, we had issues with that a long time ago when the doors didnt close and some idiots tried to run away instead of dieing like the teenage boys they are. |
| 02:06.06 | Thorgard | Yeah, he's no aggroing on us for some reason. :/ |
| 02:06.18 | Hjalte | Did anyone cheat death at your last attempt? |
| 02:07.00 | Strangeteeth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.43 | Thorgard | Strangeteeth, yeah, that's what the GM suggested. |
| 02:08.33 | Strangeteeth | I'm impressed people could still bug him out with the door closed |
| 02:12.45 | Thorgard | We actually accepted the wipe.. and then he reset and spared half our healers. |
| 02:12.59 | Thorgard | Then another wipe.. then the next try he was bugged. |
| 02:13.42 | Strangeteeth | that fight drives me nuts -- luck of the infernals is most of the fight |
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| 02:15.34 | fromagnon | what exactly does the Incubator addon dor? |
| 02:15.43 | durcyn | fromagnon: respawn timers |
| 02:15.49 | fromagnon | for dungeons, right? |
| 02:16.34 | durcyn | raid instances |
| 02:16.44 | fromagnon | ahh ok |
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| 02:28.14 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42366 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua: RatingBuster: ~30kib memory savings from tuning the option table slightly. |
| 02:36.55 | Gnarfoz | kittehs! http://www.flickr.com/photos/psergio/535620308/ |
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| 02:40.01 | ckknight | I've told him to get rid of that before. |
| 02:40.05 | vhaarr | So have I. |
| 02:41.29 | abyssichate | ckknight: hi, I think I understood what caused some backgrounds to be coloured as "Other" (no power/health bars either) instead of guildies/friends |
| 02:41.39 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 02:41.44 | abyssichate | It's because of tattle |
| 02:41.54 | abyssichate | if they contain tattle data, they'll show up as "Other" |
| 02:42.03 | abyssichate | in fact, after I disabled Tattle, everything worked fine |
| 02:42.07 | ckknight | well, yes, that has been established |
| 02:42.14 | abyssichate | oh, I didn't know |
| 02:43.02 | vhaarr | As a sidenote, it's amazingly annoying with IRC clients that have options to auto-rejoin channels when you're kicked. |
| 02:43.26 | vhaarr | I don't know if they're set to On by default in any of them, which would make it even worse. |
| 02:44.02 | abyssichate | It is usually set on by default, at least in mIRC if I recall correctly |
| 02:44.09 | vhaarr | see? |
| 02:44.26 | vhaarr | that's retarded, completely destroying the point of a kick |
| 02:44.54 | abyssichate | true |
| 02:45.22 | vhaarr | many channels have a policy that if you autorejoin, you get permanently banned |
| 02:45.27 | vhaarr | that's a nice policy |
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| 02:46.11 | Bibi | most of the kicks are for fun |
| 02:46.24 | Bibi | if someone is annoying, you don't kick him, you use the banstick. |
| 02:46.25 | vhaarr | no |
| 02:46.33 | vhaarr | must of the kicks in channels -you frequent- are for fun |
| 02:46.34 | abyssichate | I am used to quakenet where kicks are not really serious, so autojoin becomes handy |
| 02:46.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea, sometimes I feel bad silly-kicking and the person doesn't come back =) |
| 02:46.54 | hyperChipmunk | I usually send them a /msg |
| 02:46.57 | abyssichate | I myself probably have it on |
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| 02:47.14 | art3mis | jeezus could you whine anymore? |
| 02:47.29 | hyperChipmunk | dude, not a good idea |
| 02:48.05 | art3mis | no worries im not in one of those "put up with whiny babies about stupid shit thier capable of ignoring anyways" sorta moods ;P |
| 02:48.06 | hyperChipmunk | just turn it off and be happy it ends there |
| 02:48.33 | art3mis | its a fresh install, i fergot to disable it. shrug |
| 02:48.33 | vhaarr | no worries I wouldn't care if you were |
| 02:49.28 | art3mis | i swear the entire world got its period today |
| 02:49.32 | abyssichate | Has anyone used the uploader of www.wowdigger.com by the way? |
| 02:49.47 | ckknight | art3mis: I've told you previously to turn it off, so it's not like this was the first warning |
| 02:50.08 | art3mis | its a fresh install of the os, it defaults on and i forget it |
| 02:50.25 | Gnarfoz | because, it seriously offsets the signal/noise ratio for this channel, mind you ;> |
| 02:50.29 | art3mis | if an autoaway bugs you that much go outside and play soccer or something since obviously text irritates you |
| 02:50.31 | hyperChipmunk | gosh that site looks familiar =) |
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| 02:50.55 | ckknight | ... |
| 02:50.56 | fromagnon | outta curiousity, is there a mod that exist, that shows the drop rate of stuff you've collected from mobs |
| 02:51.01 | ckknight | should've taken hyperChipmunk's advice. |
| 02:51.02 | Gnarfoz | that was so unneccessary it hurts |
| 02:51.03 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:51.29 | Bibi | hyperChipmunk, what kind of news should I post tomorrow ? |
| 02:51.29 | Bibi | :( |
| 02:52.14 | hyperChipmunk | Mynithrosil of Feathermoon needs an arena team and a raid |
| 02:52.26 | Cryect | is there really any news to report on till Zul'aman rolly? |
| 02:52.39 | hyperChipmunk | he's tired of being clad in greens |
| 02:52.49 | Gnarfoz | get into a fucking instance and get blues. |
| 02:52.52 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:52.56 | Bibi | Cryect : one day = one news |
| 02:53.00 | Bibi | period. |
| 02:53.16 | vhaarr | s/period/minimum/ |
| 02:53.18 | Cryect | How about worthwhile news? |
| 02:53.51 | Bibi | ask Blizzard |
| 02:53.51 | Bibi | :( |
| 02:54.28 | Cryect | well 2.2 should be out soon |
| 02:54.33 | Bibi | I hope. ^^ |
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| 02:55.11 | Cryect | Well my friend saw prelim patch notes like a week ago but wouldn't say anything so prolly boring this time |
| 02:55.14 | abyssichate | Gender switch incoming! Not. |
| 02:55.35 | hyperChipmunk | my news is relevant |
| 02:55.47 | Gnarfoz | who cares about gender, haircuts is where it's at |
| 02:55.57 | Thorgard | What's that site where people show recaps of raid encounters, damage done per person and all that jazz? |
| 02:56.04 | Cryect | wow web stats |
| 02:56.07 | abyssichate | I am rerolling my warlock just because of the genre :| |
| 02:56.17 | Cryect | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/ |
| 02:56.18 | starlon | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/ |
| 02:56.22 | Gnarfoz | I bow before the sheer stupidity of that reason |
| 02:56.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:56.35 | abyssichate | And so do I |
| 02:56.42 | Cryect | rerolling warlock because of the genre? |
| 02:56.45 | abyssichate | specially because getting the gear of my main on the male warlock will be a pain |
| 02:56.47 | Cryect | what genre? |
| 02:56.54 | abyssichate | *gender |
| 02:57.23 | Cryect | genre would have been an interesting reason to reroll |
| 02:57.37 | Cryect | thinking you are playing a scifi game then find out its fantasy |
| 02:58.14 | abyssichate | My whole hopes depend on this thread http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296369888&sid=1 |
| 02:58.31 | Gnarfoz | btw, I dunno if any of the bots in here automatically remove bans, but that hostmask seems a bite wide, doesn'it, vhaarr? |
| 02:58.35 | abyssichate | Even if I am pretty doubtful they will introduce gender-change surgeons |
| 02:58.53 | Gnarfoz | you won't get em |
| 02:59.05 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:59.10 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: hm, it might be :p |
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| 02:59.14 | Cryect | vhaarr doesn't like optimum online is all |
| 02:59.15 | vhaarr | I'll remove it in 10min time |
| 02:59.23 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr sets mode +b *.net |
| 02:59.27 | vhaarr | lol |
| 02:59.31 | Cryect | sscrew that more like * |
| 02:59.32 | Gnarfoz | just set +b * and be done with it |
| 02:59.32 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:59.37 | GanJa | New use of embed.xml == bad, stop using it. It's not loading the libs fast enough for the addons to catch the current way they are programmed |
| 02:59.49 | Gnarfoz | GanJa: ...what |
| 02:59.51 | Cryect | hiuh |
| 02:59.56 | Cryect | what the hell are you talking about? |
| 03:00.01 | vhaarr | clearly he's smoking something |
| 03:00.06 | Cryect | they load just the same besides writing an error message |
| 03:00.09 | Gnarfoz | I dunno what /that/ would be |
| 03:00.12 | ckknight | vhaarr: my guess: PCP |
| 03:00.21 | Gnarfoz | of _course_ |
| 03:00.30 | GanJa | I just updated all my mods, it gave me errors, did the normal thing of disabling addon by addon until finding what the issue was every mod that had a use of embed.xml was the problem, when I updated to the newest version without an embed.xml they worked fine |
| 03:00.32 | Cryect | I mean its not like WoW multithreads loading of Lua files |
| 03:00.49 | ckknight | ... |
| 03:00.53 | ckknight | ...no |
| 03:00.59 | ckknight | you're misinformed. |
| 03:01.09 | Cryect | did you forget to restart wow after updating? |
| 03:01.11 | GanJa | your gonna tell me I'm mis-informed on what just happened to my wow? |
| 03:01.14 | Cryect | so they couldn't load the xml file? |
| 03:01.16 | ckknight | yes. |
| 03:01.18 | Cryect | yes |
| 03:01.21 | GanJa | the libs are loaded |
| 03:01.22 | Cryect | Because it works for everyone else? |
| 03:01.27 | GanJa | I can do things with the libs just fine |
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| 03:01.49 | Cryect | You want to explain how its loading out of order then? |
| 03:02.15 | GanJa | when updating all the wowace mods.... |
| 03:02.22 | GanJa | the command "/script local parser = ParserLib:GetInstance("1.1")" works FINE |
| 03:02.27 | Cryect | Thrae's got a bot? |
| 03:02.40 | ckknight | ThraeBot: help |
| 03:02.41 | GanJa | however during loading I get a SimpleCombatLog error stating ParseLib is not there |
| 03:02.58 | GanJa | disable SCL |
| 03:02.59 | ckknight | GanJa: did you restart WoW properly? |
| 03:03.04 | GanJa | and Fubar gives me an error |
| 03:03.11 | Thrae | Right now all it does is copy foxlit's FoxBot. I plan to add Luabot and SVNBot support to it. |
| 03:03.28 | Thrae | #char us maelstrom thrae |
| 03:03.29 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 193 Str; 233 Agi; 19.62% dodge. |
| 03:03.35 | vhaarr | Parser-1.1 is not a AceLibrary, which means it won't be loaded dynamically unless an addon OptDeps on it |
| 03:03.37 | GanJa | ckk: yes new files such as LUA or XML files or anything that is not listed in the .toc file when wow is started is not loaded into memory and therefore cannot load |
| 03:03.42 | Thrae | That's kinda useless for this channel, but I'm working on it :D |
| 03:04.01 | GanJa | the lib is there, I can use it as the command "/script local parser = ParserLib:GetInstance("1.1")" would not work if it wasn't there |
| 03:04.07 | ckknight | GanJa: omg... |
| 03:04.10 | Gnarfoz | hellllooo |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | GanJa: stop right now |
| 03:04.14 | durcyn | GanJa: did you read the conents of embeds.xml, sparky? |
| 03:04.22 | ckknight | GanJa: you just said that you _didn't_ restart WoW properly. |
| 03:04.28 | GanJa | yes, it has the libs |
| 03:04.29 | ckknight | GanJa: therefore, it's fully your fault. |
| 03:04.38 | Cryect | if you didn't restart wow |
| 03:04.41 | Cryect | it won't work |
| 03:04.47 | Cryect | it just means something else loaded the library |
| 03:04.48 | GanJa | ckk: can you read or do you just have a pickle up your arse? |
| 03:04.51 | GanJa | WORD FOR WORD |
| 03:04.54 | GanJa | "yes" |
| 03:05.04 | GanJa | "new files such as LUA or XML files or anything that is not listed in the .toc file when wow is started is not loaded into memory and therefore cannot load" |
| 03:05.09 | Gnarfoz | actually he didn't state if or if not he did shut down wow |
| 03:05.19 | ckknight | GanJa: new files not listed in toc files when wow is started is not loaded into memory, I got that much |
| 03:05.26 | ckknight | thing is, embeds.xml would be in the toc |
| 03:05.31 | GanJa | your question was "GanJa: did you restart WoW properly?" |
| 03:05.40 | Gnarfoz | GanJa: you did not answer that question. |
| 03:05.48 | GanJa | I answered yes, no where did I say I "didn't" restart wow |
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| 03:06.01 | GanJa | Gnar: "(-20:02:06-) <GanJa> ckk: yes new files such as LUA or XML files or anything that is not listed in the .toc file when wow is started is not loaded into memory and therefore cannot load" |
| 03:06.06 | Gnarfoz | get some punctuation then if you wanted to say that. |
| 03:06.19 | Cryect | simple yes would have worked better |
| 03:06.35 | ckknight | so unless you updated the files, and then reloaded, you couldn't have gotten the problems you've had |
| 03:06.37 | durcyn | and if you're going to try to get help, do it without insulting people |
| 03:06.44 | durcyn | ass-pickle indeed |
| 03:06.55 | ckknight | yes, I do _not_ take kindly to insults |
| 03:06.57 | GanJa | I'm not trying to get help, I'll fix it myself |
| 03:07.02 | Gnarfoz | heh, good luck |
| 03:07.08 | ckknight | even if I happen to be wrong (which I still don't think I am) |
| 03:07.09 | Gnarfoz | it already works for everyone else anyway :D |
| 03:07.20 | Moltarain | StellarUF are they broken atm or so? |
| 03:07.35 | GanJa | I've done it several times with alot of these wow mods mostly fubar and SCL... almost EVERY time I've updated them they have given me library errors, and yes I have updated all other mod's library's |
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| 03:08.21 | Gnarfoz | so what was wrong, or rather how did you fix it? just curious what the real reason could be |
| 03:09.11 | GanJa | for SCL I reverted back to a version which didn't use the embed, if the embed is the problem or not I don't think so but the version works. |
| 03:09.17 | Gnarfoz | (because, obviously, judging from how your first statement, you don't seem to have much of a clue) |
| 03:09.22 | GanJa | as I stated before the library is there. |
| 03:10.52 | Gnarfoz | dunno exactly why, but ckknight said parser-1.1 is not an acelibrary and thus something about it loading is different |
| 03:11.20 | vhaarr | I thought I said that |
| 03:11.32 | Gnarfoz | indeed you did |
| 03:11.43 | GanJa | check your PM |
| 03:11.47 | Gnarfoz | I did |
| 03:12.00 | Gnarfoz | if you do that again, I'll report you to staffers, what the fuck are you spamming my PM for |
| 03:13.27 | GanJa | "(-20:07:46-) <Gnarfoz> (because, obviously, judging from how your first statement, you don't seem to have much of a clue) " |
| 03:13.41 | GanJa | and it's probly some stupid throttle thing |
| 03:14.22 | ckknight | back |
| 03:14.27 | ckknight | brother's learning VB.NET |
| 03:14.31 | ckknight | and I'm trying to teach him |
| 03:14.43 | ckknight | on the phone |
| 03:15.09 | Gnarfoz | I didn't ask for you to PM me 42 lines of code that has nothing to do with this |
| 03:15.13 | ckknight | GanJa: you have been both misinformed and obnoxious the whole time you've been in here. |
| 03:15.34 | ckknight | GanJa: you came in with a highly accusatory tone as well |
| 03:15.41 | ckknight | GanJa: now, will you settle down or do you have to leave? |
| 03:17.25 | GanJa | ckk: you run a product do you not ckk? |
| 03:17.33 | ckknight | multiple. |
| 03:17.51 | *** mode/#wowace [-b *!*@*.dyn.optonline.net] by vhaarr |
| 03:18.34 | GanJa | ckk: and someone who uses it comes in and tells you a problem with it, regardless of thier attitude, yet you tell them they are misinformed on something they JUST witnessed.... What do you expect them to do? Do you expect them to me more calm about the situation or escalate? |
| 03:18.38 | Gnarfoz | (how can you not run a product? if you could run the raw materials of a product, who'd need the product? -.-) |
| 03:19.00 | zac | hm. resisted soulshatter still lowers threat. |
| 03:19.13 | Kalman| | GanJa: If it was something I knew worked, I'd pretty much assume they were misinterpreting the situation. |
| 03:19.20 | Hjalte | Nargiddley, will you give us the possibility of copying bag layouts between the different layouts at some point? I'd like to try all-in-one sorted for a while, but i don't want to set-up my bags every time i switch :) |
| 03:19.28 | ckknight | GanJa: originally, you were accusatory "New use of embed.xml == bad, stop using it.", thus my harsh tone |
| 03:19.36 | Kalman| | zac: Do you mean on Threat/Omen, or is that a tested thing? |
| 03:19.38 | Gnarfoz | more calm, obviously, because last I checked, no-one paid anyone in here to do any support |
| 03:19.44 | zac | Kalman|: yeah, in threat |
| 03:20.02 | Kalman| | zac: Known issue. |
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| 03:20.19 | ckknight | yea, you have no real "right" to be here, you are allowed to be here, and at any time, that can be taken away |
| 03:20.21 | zac | ah |
| 03:20.38 | ckknight | especially since you have not provided anything of yourself |
| 03:21.01 | ckknight | and I swear by my life and my love of it, that I will not live for the sake of another man, nor ask any other to live for mine. |
| 03:21.14 | GanJa | ckk: that statement was made on 2 parts, one it's something new in the mods which are giving me issues, it has not been there before. 2nd it's been the general "modding" communitie's consensus to do out with xml files. |
| 03:21.24 | GanJa | Gnar: When I entered did I ask for support? |
| 03:21.37 | ckknight | um, this is what this is, this is support |
| 03:21.41 | Cryect | would do to provide actual evidence |
| 03:21.47 | durcyn | "general modding community's consensus"? |
| 03:21.56 | durcyn | you're making it up now, just stop. |
| 03:21.58 | Cryect | when making a comment that something isn't working for reasons that works for everyone else |
| 03:22.05 | ckknight | and I'm telling you, you are misinformed. we are not anti-xml for loading files, and we're actually pro-embeds.xml and pro-modules.xml, typically. |
| 03:22.06 | Gnarfoz | it's been the consensus to "do out with xml files"? it's just easier to create Frames via Lua instead of the clunky xml syntax. you clearly don't have a clue |
| 03:22.34 | ckknight | also, as an aside, consensus is arbitrary. consensus is just what we tell people to believe. |
| 03:22.38 | CIA-22 | 03flyflame * r42367 10oRA2/ (19 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: update zhCN locals |
| 03:22.44 | Gnarfoz | like religion! |
| 03:22.48 | Cryect | debugging xml is fun without error messages! |
| 03:22.59 | Funkeh` | GanJa: press the magic button |
| 03:23.13 | Funkeh` | GanJa: reinstall all addons in wau |
| 03:23.18 | Funkeh` | fixes everything |
| 03:23.39 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: basically. |
| 03:23.56 | Moltarain | <-- request a default frame setup for all possible resolutions ,) (or more that nothing can go outside unless i specify so my self) |
| 03:23.58 | Gnarfoz | switched from embeds to sal's, perhaps? or the other way around? |
| 03:23.59 | ckknight | I mean, I'm not going to deny it, I'm not going to be ashamed of it, and I'm sure as hell not going to apologize for it |
| 03:24.57 | GanJa | Gnar: can you tell me how modding in WoW was first approached regarding multiple files for a mod? |
| 03:24.59 | Funkeh` | i spent 3 nights in a row convertings addons to use xml |
| 03:25.08 | Funkeh` | if you don't like it then ... |
| 03:25.25 | ckknight | we all applaud your efforts, Funkeh` |
| 03:25.39 | Funkeh` | ckknight: aplaud me by fixing carto bugs, bitch |
| 03:25.40 | ckknight | you will be commended in the upcoming onslaught |
| 03:25.42 | durcyn | i've sussed it. ganja is kenco. |
| 03:25.49 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 03:25.51 | Gnarfoz | has to be |
| 03:26.29 | ckknight | GanJa: first approach was to put most of the lua in one file and most of the frames in an xml file, with a toc pointing to a single loading xml file. |
| 03:26.55 | GanJa | ckk: Thank you. |
| 03:27.11 | Moltarain | vould it be possible to disable blizzard quest window totaly and only use nQuestLog ? |
| 03:27.17 | ckknight | I don't see what that has to do with how things are today, as that's not how we do things today |
| 03:27.20 | GanJa | Gnar: Then multiple files were loaded through the toc itself instead of a single loading xml. |
| 03:27.40 | ckknight | well, that's not necessarily true |
| 03:27.46 | Gnarfoz | Gan: (what sense does a partial address make? it's not even highlighting the line): I'll tell you what you misinterpreted: the reason for the disappearance of XML files in addons. It's not because xml files are evil or don't work, but because since we can create frames via Lua, and reference multiple files in the .toc, it has become mostly unncessary. |
| 03:28.00 | GanJa | ckk: It re-inforces my comment earlier "it's been the general "modding" communitie's consensus to do out with xml files" |
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| 03:28.13 | ckknight | what community are you talking about? |
| 03:28.36 | ckknight | also, as I said before, consensus is what we tell people |
| 03:29.18 | durcyn | you're misunderstanding "getting rid of xml frames" and "getting rid of xml files entirely" |
| 03:29.22 | ckknight | therefore, I'm telling you now, and I'm sure everyone will agree: the consensus of the wowace modding community is to use embeds.xml files for all libraries and to use modules.xml for modules if they can be separated out. |
| 03:29.25 | GanJa | ckk: any modding community If you go and look at forums and such which are contained in modding communities or communities which mod you'll see for the most part those who answer questiosn answer them into the code and such being only LUA files |
| 03:29.37 | Codayus | GanJa: Hmm, a statement which isn't just false, but wouldn't help your argument if it was... |
| 03:29.41 | ckknight | GanJa: here's news: I am this modding community |
| 03:29.44 | ckknight | and I say otherwise. |
| 03:29.49 | ckknight | so you're going to have to deal with that. |
| 03:30.03 | hyperChipmunk | there's no 'code' in embeds.xml |
| 03:30.18 | hyperChipmunk | you use the best tool for th job |
| 03:30.41 | ckknight | currently, the best solution we have for the current problems is to use embeds.xml |
| 03:30.41 | hyperChipmunk | for almost everything, it's .lua |
| 03:30.52 | hyperChipmunk | for file loading, .xml is win |
| 03:30.56 | ckknight | but only to load files, never having code in it |
| 03:31.08 | ckknight | in some cases, you may want frame templates in xml files |
| 03:31.17 | Funkeh` | GanJa: simple question, why do you think we use embeds.xml and modules.xml ? |
| 03:31.33 | hyperChipmunk | being all MUST USE LUA XML IS SUX is shortsighted...nobody LIKES xml |
| 03:31.35 | ckknight | Funkeh`: to keep the proletariat down, gah. |
| 03:31.39 | hyperChipmunk | we just use it because it's the best way |
| 03:32.07 | GanJa | ckk: Commenting code works wounders.... but to adress your comments earlier... |
| 03:32.10 | GanJa | ckk: lol big man eh? Like to be in charge and don't like to be out of the center of attention do you? YOU are NOT the modding community. For one, a single person to be so is not only a bold and false statement but a simple show of how full that person is of thier own ego. The modding community goes WAY beyond wowace. |
| 03:32.33 | GanJa | ckk: and way beyond yourself. |
| 03:32.41 | Kalman| | GanJa: You're a jackass and have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 03:32.46 | dylanm | Whoa I come back from a walk and there's all this craziness. |
| 03:32.46 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: nominate me for king. |
| 03:32.50 | hyperChipmunk | he's not the community, but in this respect, he speaks for this one pretty well |
| 03:32.52 | Kalman| | I'm surprised the mods have left you here this long. |
| 03:32.54 | Funkeh` | are you here to discuss embeds.xml or to bitch about ckknight shitty attitude? |
| 03:33.05 | ckknight | I know I don't control the community |
| 03:33.10 | ckknight | but I'm a predominant figure |
| 03:33.14 | ckknight | as many others are |
| 03:33.17 | Kalman| | Or at least prominent. :p |
| 03:33.22 | ckknight | I create multiple addons and libraries that many people use |
| 03:33.32 | ckknight | prominent* |
| 03:33.34 | nymbia | ckknight: how dare you. ;) |
| 03:33.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea, and taking shots at ckk's attitude isn't really inspiring; anyone can do that. we all know he's an egotistical jerk; tell us something we don't |
| 03:33.52 | Funkeh` | quite |
| 03:33.52 | ckknight | and my say has a good deal of influence |
| 03:33.53 | GanJa | Funkeh: I am here to discuss code, but I will not idly sit by and not make my opinions known while one person makes thier's known as well as speaks such bold and/or false statements |
| 03:34.10 | ckknight | my statements may be bold, but not false. |
| 03:34.24 | ckknight | also, I don't care if the modding community goes "way beyond wowace" |
| 03:34.25 | GanJa | "(-20:28:10-) <ckknight> GanJa: here's news: I am this modding community" |
| 03:34.26 | Funkeh` | GanJa: well i can explain to you quite easily why we use it, im not going to get involved with your arguments with ckknight though |
| 03:34.31 | ckknight | I don't care much for the non-acers |
| 03:34.34 | GanJa | so that quote is not false? |
| 03:34.38 | ckknight | GanJa: you've never heard of metaphors? |
| 03:34.48 | hyperChipmunk | ~hubris |
| 03:34.48 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 03:34.49 | ckknight | I'm also an eagle, soaring high above. |
| 03:34.56 | kebinusan | You seem to be completely devoid of a point GanJa |
| 03:35.05 | ckknight | gonna say that that's a false statement too? |
| 03:35.12 | ckknight | cause, I mean, I doubt I have feathers in real life. |
| 03:35.25 | Funkeh` | ckknight: if you would i would burn them down |
| 03:35.26 | Chompers | could be a furry |
| 03:35.37 | Chompers | yif yif |
| 03:35.37 | Funkeh` | fly that bitch |
| 03:35.39 | ckknight | Funkeh`: damn, and bald eagles just got off the endangered species list. |
| 03:35.46 | Funkeh` | haha |
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| 03:35.53 | starlon | ckknight, Popagano of WoW |
| 03:36.00 | Gnarfoz | GanJa: when you quote people, try reading again what they said, perhaps you'll then understand it. he said he is _this_ community, "wowace". can't reply to that with "the modding community goes way beyond wowace" ^^ |
| 03:36.26 | ckknight | starlon: I don't know the reference. |
| 03:36.38 | starlon | The Magic Flute |
| 03:36.40 | Gnarfoz | Papageno? |
| 03:36.44 | starlon | Don't worry about it. |
| 03:36.47 | ckknight | starlon: never heard of it |
| 03:36.51 | Codayus | Heh |
| 03:37.10 | durcyn | what's babaganush got to do with this? :o |
| 03:37.20 | Codayus | I blame the public school system... |
| 03:37.23 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: got a sec for a PM? |
| 03:37.27 | GanJa | ckk: nice save but it doesn't work... saying "I'm also an eagle, soaring high above." is alot different then stating you are the entity of an object. |
| 03:37.28 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 03:37.46 | GanJa | Gnar: he stated modding community he did NOT designate this community |
| 03:37.54 | hyperChipmunk | let's all argue syntax on teh intarweb |
| 03:38.12 | GanJa | hyper: Thank you |
| 03:38.20 | Codayus | 03:34 < GanJa> "(-20:28:10-) <ckknight> GanJa: here's news: I am this modding community" |
| 03:38.27 | Codayus | Wow, self pwned? |
| 03:38.35 | hyperChipmunk | in a room with representation from about 20 different countries and at least 7 different languages |
| 03:38.42 | GanJa | Now if you scroll up you'll see several things I stated that were argued over syntax yet it was never defended like you just did for ckk |
| 03:38.57 | ckknight | Codayus: I don't see the self-pwnage |
| 03:39.08 | kebinusan | You could not be an idiot and go read on the forums the reason for embeds.xml |
| 03:39.24 | kebinusan | a simple search on the wowace site would give you more information than being an ass on irc |
| 03:39.27 | GanJa | "(-20:28:10-) <ckknight> GanJa: here's news: I am this modding community" |
| 03:39.29 | GanJa | oops |
| 03:39.32 | Codayus | ckknight: GanJa quoted you saying that you were *this* modding community. He then said that you didn't designate that you were talking about *this* community. |
| 03:39.41 | Codayus | So, GanJa just refuted his own point. |
| 03:39.45 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 03:39.50 | Kalman| | ckknight: Are you just not kicking him cuz you're bored? |
| 03:39.54 | ckknight | yea, thought you were referring to pwning myself |
| 03:39.57 | durcyn | GanJa: stop being a wanker. thanks. |
| 03:39.58 | ckknight | Kalman|: mostly. |
| 03:40.25 | ckknight | yes, I agree with durcyn's aforementioned wanker statement |
| 03:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | GanJa: give us some replicable conditions to help fix your problem, or a technical breakdown of why embeds.xml doesn't work; if you can't do that, I suggest you silence yourself and allow yourself to learn a few lessons from the community |
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| 03:42.01 | ckknight | bah. |
| 03:42.03 | ckknight | d/c'd |
| 03:42.28 | durcyn | ooh, maybe ganja ping flooded you. be careful. |
| 03:42.42 | Gnarfoz | didn't miss anything (which would be true, regardless if he said anything further or not^^) |
| 03:42.42 | ckknight | doubt it |
| 03:42.43 | GanJa | Hyper: Being a modder I see a problem I fix it. I can't give you any more steps then to state I updated my mods, restarted wow and loaded up just to give me issues with almost every mod which loaded libraries through embed.xml. More to the point usually the embeds which were not ace2 libraries |
| 03:42.46 | hyperChipmunk | durcyn: we don't need that =P |
| 03:43.02 | hyperChipmunk | GanJa: break it down to simplest case |
| 03:43.05 | GanJa | Durc: DOS or PING flood is a federal offense, I'm not an idiot |
| 03:43.12 | Funkeh` | GanJa: do you use WAU to update? |
| 03:43.16 | GanJa | yes |
| 03:43.23 | hyperChipmunk | give us a procedure on one mod |
| 03:43.24 | Funkeh` | did you try the reinstall alla ddons function? |
| 03:43.26 | hyperChipmunk | so we can replicate |
| 03:43.58 | GanJa | Hyper: update all mods is not one mod there is no procedure on one mod |
| 03:44.16 | hyperChipmunk | if there's a problem, then it's as valid for one as it is for many |
| 03:45.27 | GanJa | The problem, as I stated was with the embed.xml and furthermore with non ace2 library libraries. IE ParserLib |
| 03:45.41 | GanJa | Although Jostle-2.0 which is an ace2 library also gave me an issue |
| 03:45.50 | Funkeh` | that shouldn't really mater |
| 03:45.55 | hyperChipmunk | no, you THINK the problem is with embeds.xml; I've not seen any proof |
| 03:46.02 | Funkeh` | could you please try the reinstall all addons function |
| 03:46.04 | hyperChipmunk | there's a difference |
| 03:46.59 | hyperChipmunk | I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone here when I say that it seems quite impossible for embeds.xml to be the problem, based on an understanding of how the addon system works |
| 03:47.00 | GanJa | Funkeh: Shouldn't but neither should a library which shouldn't load from another mod (IE say acehook loads from AMod it shouldn't matter if BMod has it updated cuz if I remember right BMod doesn't load it's library if it's already there. But that does matter) |
| 03:47.13 | hyperChipmunk | that's not an insult, we just don't see where the hole could be |
| 03:47.38 | Codayus | If you wanted to show it was embeds.xml, edit the .toc to laod the libs directly instead of referencing the xml. That'd show something. Rolling back to entirely different versions does nothing to narrow the problem down. |
| 03:48.27 | Funkeh` | GanJa: seriously this is the last time im going to say to reinstall |
| 03:48.39 | GanJa | Coda: I did that with the other mods giving me the issue and it works fine. |
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| 03:49.20 | art3mis | medihv's journel is a drop off aran isnt it |
| 03:49.25 | GanJa | Funkeh: The issue is solved, I wasn't looking for support when I joined nor am I now. I'm simply stating this hasn't been the first time I've had issues with the libraries |
| 03:49.41 | Codayus | art3mis: Yeah |
| 03:49.42 | Funkeh` | GanJa: right, i did not know that |
| 03:49.46 | art3mis | bah sucky |
| 03:49.49 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42368 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Bugfix. |
| 03:49.52 | Codayus | Why? |
| 03:49.55 | Funkeh` | GanJa: how did you solve the issue? |
| 03:50.04 | GanJa | Well with SCL I reverted back |
| 03:50.08 | art3mis | cuz we cleared it |
| 03:50.15 | art3mis | and aran isnt alive anymore ;P |
| 03:50.19 | GanJa | then with the other mods I changed the embeds to be back in the .toc files |
| 03:50.20 | Funkeh` | well thats not a very good solution |
| 03:50.24 | Codayus | Always next week. :-) |
| 03:50.38 | GanJa | no but people tend to do things that they have found to work. |
| 03:50.40 | art3mis | heh yup cept aran is one of those swap out bosses ;P |
| 03:50.49 | Codayus | Swap out? |
| 03:50.50 | art3mis | i switch with teh other shadow priest on certain mobs for drops |
| 03:50.53 | GanJa | this isn't the first time I've had to revert to an older version of a mod, especially with SCL |
| 03:50.56 | Codayus | Ahh. |
| 03:51.03 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42369 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: And another one. |
| 03:51.55 | hyperChipmunk | GanJa: well, normally people come here to either give us help or receive it from us; I'm not sure what you're here for, then? Are you trying to give us information, getting information, or just looking for an audience to whom you can complain while you fix the problem yourself? |
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| 03:52.35 | art3mis | you fergot me hyper |
| 03:52.38 | Funkeh` | GanJa: in my experience every single person that had a problem with the embeds had it solved by using the reinstall function |
| 03:52.45 | Funkeh` | GanJa: you can try that or jsut not update |
| 03:52.47 | GanJa | Hyper: "give us information" and "just looking for an audience to whom you can complain while you fix the problem yourself" probly fit best |
| 03:52.47 | art3mis | im here to poke bee's nests wih sticks |
| 03:53.00 | hyperChipmunk | it isn't the first, so we're under the assumption that it's the second; in which case, it'd really help if you can give us more info than 'oh i fixed it myself' |
| 03:53.23 | hyperChipmunk | ideally, we'd like nobody else to have the problem either =P |
| 03:54.34 | GanJa | To recap, I came in here bitching because honestly for the longest time I wrote my own mods because for the most part coding was sloppy, took to much memory and various other reasons including I had the time. Not having the time, granted I do understand mods are a free service, I started using wowace mods which I have had numerous issues with which have all came down to the libraries almost every time. |
| 03:55.25 | Codayus | Umm, no offence, but "issues [all] came down to the libraries almost every time" might be the least useful and least exact bug report I've ever seen... |
| 03:55.33 | art3mis | maybe if you'd pay your late fees you wouldnt have probelsm with the library |
| 03:56.17 | Funkeh` | GanJa: fine by me, but you need to help us help you |
| 03:56.31 | Funkeh` | either give us errors reports, point at mods, or generally follow the steps we tell you |
| 03:56.41 | Codayus | Hrm...something like: "Mod X gave error Y until I made change Z to the toc" would be nice. Being sure to include the revision number and the exact text of the toc before and after the fix would help too. |
| 03:56.44 | Funkeh` | all of which you have done none of |
| 03:56.44 | GanJa | Coda: it's a generalized statement for a generalized error that continues to repeat itself. |
| 03:57.08 | art3mis | install standalone, install with wau without embedded |
| 03:57.12 | art3mis | dance |
| 03:57.18 | Lyfe | lovely.. non-descript errors that only a person or two know about :) |
| 03:57.52 | art3mis | hehe i broke my fedora 7 install |
| 03:57.55 | art3mis | it was glorious |
| 03:57.55 | hyperChipmunk | that's exactly why I requested it be replicated with one mob |
| 03:57.58 | hyperChipmunk | s/mob/mod/ |
| 03:58.09 | art3mis | i removed libstdc++ |
| 03:58.17 | art3mis | which appearnatly everything depends on |
| 03:58.44 | Lyfe | well, almost everything. :) |
| 03:58.44 | art3mis | thats right c++ is an STD |
| 03:58.44 | hyperChipmunk | art3mis: that's somewhat important, yea |
| 03:58.48 | art3mis | heh |
| 03:58.51 | art3mis | i meant to upgrade |
| 03:59.02 | art3mis | by the time i realized it was removing it i just sat here and laughed |
| 03:59.30 | hyperChipmunk | doing fedora upgrades in-place almost always ends in catastrophe |
| 03:59.31 | art3mis | anyone mucked with fbsd 6.2 recently? |
| 03:59.38 | hyperChipmunk | just download the iso and run the upgrade |
| 03:59.39 | Codayus | The lesson here is...don't use fedora? :-p |
| 03:59.40 | Lyfe | if you have the resources, pop the harddrive into another machine, and restore the lib. |
| 03:59.41 | art3mis | heh yeah i jsut installed it last night |
| 03:59.46 | Lyfe | art3mis: all the time. |
| 03:59.51 | art3mis | i could reinstall but i figured meh lets try something else |
| 03:59.58 | Lyfe | actually, i started mucking with freebsd 7, out of interested in ZFS. :) |
| 04:00.05 | art3mis | lyfe: still a build yer own kernel? |
| 04:00.13 | hyperChipmunk | Codayus: or 'read the big warning that says 'don't do it' before upgrading in a nonstandard way' |
| 04:00.14 | Lyfe | if you want to. |
| 04:00.22 | art3mis | well lets compare it to say fedora |
| 04:00.33 | art3mis | where it installs and boots nice and happy with most drivers |
| 04:00.35 | Lyfe | you get to edit a file, then fun a couple commands, and hey, you've got a new kernel installed. |
| 04:00.57 | art3mis | ran fbsd from 1.1.2 -> 4.6 |
| 04:01.05 | art3mis | i lurv kernel compiling |
| 04:01.13 | art3mis | wodnering if they made it more "user friendly" |
| 04:01.22 | art3mis | and less "here's a console do stuff" |
| 04:01.29 | hyperChipmunk | on a totally unrelated note, blocking encounters that start with a summoning circle make me sad >8\ |
| 04:01.31 | Codayus | I like my lesson better. |
| 04:01.36 | Lyfe | they did in one respect, but not in compiling a kernel. |
| 04:01.41 | art3mis | ahh okay |
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| 04:01.52 | Codayus | hyperChipmunk: Ogri'la quest chain? |
| 04:01.52 | Lyfe | compiling a kernel is considered a hard enough thing where you should know how to use a command line. |
| 04:01.55 | hyperChipmunk | I spent all this time farming my UBRS key, and I can't get past the first UBRS guy because I need ppl to summon =\ |
| 04:02.01 | art3mis | lyfe: nods |
| 04:02.01 | Codayus | Oh, that one! |
| 04:02.06 | Thrae | Anyone have a LVM under Linux? |
| 04:02.12 | hyperChipmunk | uldaman has one of those too >8\ |
| 04:02.12 | art3mis | yup |
| 04:02.13 | Codayus | There's one in uldaman too. Annoying. |
| 04:02.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 04:02.18 | Codayus | Oops, I lose. |
| 04:02.31 | Thrae | I added a new PCI SATA controller to my server, along with 3 more HDDs, which changed the /dev order. At first my non-boot LVM gave "missing UUID" errors, but I fixed that with pvcreate --uuid "the missing uuid" --restorefile /etc/lvm/archive/volumegroup_xxxx.vg /dev/sdd1, and then vgcfgbackup && vgcfgrestore, which allowed me to activate the volume group and logical volume. But now the partition on my LVM has disappeared -- even a deep |
| 04:02.42 | Lyfe | but, upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2, they actually started doing binary packages (which apparently are pretty easy to deal with), compared to say, the 5.2 to 5.3 upgrade (which was nearly as bad as any major version upgrade) |
| 04:03.50 | art3mis | thrae: ewwww.. i HATE sata/pata for that reason |
| 04:03.58 | art3mis | i lost half of my sata drive from lvm |
| 04:04.02 | art3mis | mislabeled it |
| 04:04.18 | art3mis | lyfe: heh |
| 04:04.32 | Lyfe | or, if you're gonna mix and match, figure it out early. |
| 04:05.02 | art3mis | i miss fbsd |
| 04:05.10 | Thrae | Well anyway, I'm sure there's a way to fix this. I think LVM just kinda groups multiple partitions together, so the file system should still be intact on each one... |
| 04:05.11 | art3mis | the daemon made me happy |
| 04:05.26 | Arrowmaster | hmm ive found a bug with !BugGrabber/BugSack |
| 04:05.41 | Lyfe | freebsd's nice. |
| 04:05.45 | art3mis | nods lvm as far as ive seen creates a single "drive" from mulitples if parts are spread across multipe drives |
| 04:05.48 | Lyfe | i just prefer a mac for a workstation :) |
| 04:05.56 | art3mis | bsd is bsd ;P |
| 04:06.31 | Lyfe | heh.. a mac is just barely bsd. |
| 04:06.39 | art3mis | no way its fully bsd! |
| 04:06.47 | Lyfe | just enough to classify it. |
| 04:06.53 | art3mis | go poke around yer command prompt ;P |
| 04:07.02 | art3mis | err shell |
| 04:07.09 | Lyfe | not really, uses a mach kernel. only takes a decent portion of the freebsd userland. |
| 04:07.16 | Cryect | Hey Windows is BSD well at least the IP Stack :-p |
| 04:07.20 | Thrae | A Mac is no more BSD then Windows NT is |
| 04:07.24 | Cryect | basicallu |
| 04:07.28 | Gnarfoz | http://i19.tinypic.com/6hftxkz.png yay |
| 04:07.33 | Lyfe | no, a mac is a lot more bsd than windows NT. |
| 04:07.34 | art3mis | hehe yeah but thats bad bsd ;P |
| 04:07.50 | Lyfe | windows only ever grabbed network apps and the network stack from bsd. |
| 04:07.53 | Cryect | so Microsoft copied all the bad bsd code because they like the daemon? |
| 04:07.55 | Thrae | Or I should say, a Mac is no more BSD then FreeBSD is Solaris |
| 04:07.56 | art3mis | bsd4 and bsdi make sad pandas |
| 04:08.02 | Cryect | and mac got the good code? |
| 04:08.13 | Gnarfoz | it all belongs to SCO anyway! thiefs. |
| 04:08.20 | Gnarfoz | s/thiefs/thieves/ |
| 04:08.32 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:08.42 | Lyfe | you almost have an argument for that one, Thrae, except that there has been massive code sharing between the FreeBSD project and Darwin. |
| 04:08.51 | art3mis | "if freebsd had been around when iw as in school i wouldnt have made linix" |
| 04:09.00 | Thrae | That doesn't mean OS X is "BSD" |
| 04:09.17 | Lyfe | right. |
| 04:09.23 | Thrae | OS X is not a Unix operating system. |
| 04:09.25 | art3mis | nope but it falls into the "it may as well be" category |
| 04:09.38 | Thrae | Bah, people say the same thing about Linux. |
| 04:09.40 | Lyfe | course not, there's only 2 UNIX operating systems, and they're both commercial. :) |
| 04:09.49 | nymbia | i havent seen 10.4 |
| 04:10.01 | art3mis | sco and sysV |
| 04:10.03 | Lyfe | 10.4's nice, 10.5's sweet. |
| 04:10.05 | nymbia | but 10.3 includes BSD as an optional install component. |
| 04:10.19 | Lyfe | sysV isn't sold anymore. Solaris is a certified UNIX os. |
| 04:10.25 | art3mis | i wish that osx would install on my pc |
| 04:10.27 | Gnarfoz | unix 'based'? |
| 04:10.29 | Thrae | Lyfe: What defines a Unix operating system is done by a non-profit organization. BSD is certified by then to be a Unix operating system. |
| 04:10.44 | Lyfe | thrae: since when? |
| 04:10.46 | art3mis | sysV is from novell now |
| 04:10.48 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42370 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Added GetOutfitsUsingItem util function. |
| 04:10.51 | art3mis | and you can still buy it |
| 04:11.00 | nymbia | heh |
| 04:11.26 | Gnarfoz | btw |
| 04:11.26 | Gnarfoz | http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/xy.htm |
| 04:11.33 | Lyfe | well, i'll be damned.. been a long time since i looked at that kinda stuff. |
| 04:11.48 | Gnarfoz | Mac OS X is listed there as certified? |
| 04:11.51 | Thrae | Yeah, Opengroup |
| 04:12.13 | Lyfe | haha.. that's funny. |
| 04:12.18 | art3mis | i fergot about AIX |
| 04:12.38 | art3mis | the power of Big Blue |
| 04:12.55 | art3mis | in a convient Refridgerator Sized storage container |
| 04:13.20 | Lyfe | that is quite amusing, that apple's had OSX certified by the UNIX 03 standard. |
| 04:13.43 | Thrae | Yeah, that doesn't mean it has full certification. |
| 04:14.05 | Lyfe | *shrug* |
| 04:14.14 | Lyfe | it's still considered a UNIX os, either way. |
| 04:15.13 | Gnarfoz | dunno how much more certified that certified "full certification" constitutes anyway |
| 04:16.13 | Gnarfoz | *than |
| 04:17.24 | Hjalte | vhaarr, i'm sure that adding an option to use a sound for when you lose aggro in Banzaialert wouldnt be any problem for such a skilled coder like yourself? :p |
| 04:17.40 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42371 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua: Recount - Slight fix for pet handling if the owner hasn't done anything yet |
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| 04:25.55 | Funkeh` | later folks |
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| 04:26.52 | art3mis | what was that new rpg that came out? |
| 04:28.05 | abyssichate | overlord? |
| 04:28.40 | Moltarain | hmm is it just me or is most addons b0rked atm? |
| 04:29.23 | art3mis | yeah thanks |
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| 04:29.46 | Lyfe | i'm not sure i want to find out that they're borked if they are borked. |
| 04:29.52 | hypetech | anybody know why my /combatlog wouldn't be logging? |
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| 04:30.29 | Moltarain | well i supose they will be fixed soon anyway =) |
| 04:30.49 | Lyfe | course, i only had 5 out of date, so ... |
| 04:30.52 | Moltarain | must say the development cycle is verry high in ace community |
| 04:31.04 | abyssichate | all my addons are fine |
| 04:31.08 | abyssichate | but I guess it depends on what you use |
| 04:31.15 | Moltarain | well i have a lot :D |
| 04:31.26 | Lyfe | quite. but, when the users can update frequently, it makes it easier to justify feature updates and bugfixes as quick as possible. |
| 04:32.52 | Moltarain | 3 that gives errors for me atm, StellarUF (dosnt show), Inflight (verry bugy), Sphere (small bug with buttons not dissapering on hide empty/ showing 1 still...) |
| 04:33.04 | hypetech | when I do /combatlog, it creates the empty log file, but then when I do /combatlog again after the fight and exit, it's not there anymore :( |
| 04:33.21 | abyssichate | you need to reload the UI I think |
| 04:33.40 | Gnarfoz | yup. |
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| 04:33.54 | Gnarfoz | as everything else, it's only saved on logout/reload |
| 04:33.55 | hypetech | oh, so I can't exit? |
| 04:34.04 | Gnarfoz | exit will do it, too, I guess? |
| 04:34.13 | hypetech | ya it used to |
| 04:34.17 | hypetech | not saving it now |
| 04:35.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42372 10CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip_Appearance - update coloring on OnTooltipSetUnit as well as OnTooltipShow, in case someone does a :Show() inside an OnTooltipSetUnit, thus messing up the ordering. <cough>Tattle</cough>. |
| 04:36.21 | Gnarfoz | does that also fix the tooltips that just show "Mouse-over" + extra info added by other tooltip addons, ckknight? |
| 04:36.30 | Gnarfoz | s/the t/the lingering t/ |
| 04:36.36 | ckknight | doubt it, as I still don't know how to reproduce it. |
| 04:37.37 | Gnarfoz | what info do you need? I can reproduce it every single time |
| 04:39.45 | ckknight | tell me how to reproduce it |
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| 04:42.26 | hypetech | hmm |
| 04:42.31 | hypetech | had to /rl, and THEN exit |
| 04:42.32 | hypetech | weird |
| 04:42.32 | durcyn | HonorFu does it. turn on the tooltip portion and mouse over the opposite faction |
| 04:42.46 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: I get that when I: have CowTip, Tattle (& others, but they are not (trying to) showing anything in this situation), and mouse over another player (in the 3d world) who I have Tattle data for. it will work correctly, then, after moving the cursor off the unit, the tooltip will stay for about as long as it would take it to start fading out |
| 04:43.18 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: and instead of fading out, it removes all CowTip data (name, class, etc) and instead it says "Mouse-over" + all extra lines that were there before, i.e. the Tattle data |
| 04:43.23 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:43.29 | ckknight | I has an idea |
| 04:43.59 | Gnarfoz | happy to inspire. also, do you get annoyed by mail when a bug is filed on the CowTip bug tracker? ^^ |
| 04:44.26 | ckknight | nope |
| 04:44.35 | ckknight | nor do I want to be |
| 04:44.37 | hypetech | okay |
| 04:44.41 | hypetech | anybody here use WWS? |
| 04:45.01 | fromagnon | are there any good rep mods out there |
| 04:45.02 | Hjalte | ckknight, i found out something. If i mouseover a unit with tattle data, hold my mouse button and move my mouse, it will produce a tooltip with "mouse-over" and the tattle data on the next line. |
| 04:46.01 | Gnarfoz | hm, Hjalte do you have to hold a mouse button for it to happen? |
| 04:46.13 | ckknight | Eben Moglen's speech on GPLv3 was pretty good |
| 04:46.14 | hypetech | when I exit the game, the log file is there, then as soon as I start the WWS app, before I even do anything, the log file disappears |
| 04:46.16 | Hjalte | Yes, i press and hold my left mousebutton. |
| 04:46.37 | Gnarfoz | can't remember having done that to get that, happens without a mouse button pressed for me |
| 04:47.00 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz, it sometimes happens without pressing my mouse here too. |
| 04:47.33 | Gnarfoz | are you implying it sometimes does not happen for people you have tattle data for? |
| 04:48.13 | Soulless | is PLAYER_LOGIN after the ui has loaded |
| 04:48.36 | Strangeteeth | I use WWS |
| 04:48.48 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz, yes, it also happens with items some times i think - then it just says "mouse-over", although, i am not completely sure what sets that one off. |
| 04:50.09 | Gnarfoz | weird. for me it happens predictably, every time I mouse over a player I have tattle data for, without a mouse button pressed. it doesn't happen for players I don't have data for, also it doesn't happen for other kinds of tooltips, just units. (got fading/hiding problems for items under certain circumstances, but I already filed a bug for that) |
| 04:50.21 | Killmore | [2007/07/01 00:49:33-213-x1]: ClosetGnome\ClosetGnome.lua:1095: 'end' expected (to close 'do' at line 913) near '<eof>' |
| 04:50.42 | Killmore | [2007/07/01 00:49:33-213-x1]: ClosetGnome_OhNoes\ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua:117: attempt to index global 'ClosetGnome' (a nil value) |
| 04:53.24 | hypetech | Strangeteeth: when I exit the game, the log file is there, then as soon as I start the WWS app, before I even do anything, the log file disappears |
| 04:54.04 | Gnarfoz | what's the current maximum +hit I should try to reach as a combat rogue, again? |
| 04:54.07 | Strangeteeth | Hypertech: my usual MO is to copy the log file before I WWS it |
| 04:55.57 | Thorgard | Oh wang. |
| 04:58.00 | Thorgard | ClosetGnome\ClosetGnome.lua:1095: 'end' expected (to close 'do' at line 913) near '<eof>' |
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| 04:59.08 | daemoen | hello all |
| 04:59.51 | ckknight | hey daemoen |
| 05:00.13 | daemoen | how are you doing tonight ckknight :) |
| 05:00.19 | ckknight | meh |
| 05:00.23 | ckknight | fixing CowTip bugs |
| 05:00.32 | ckknight | which is actually backlash from Tattle bugs |
| 05:00.33 | ckknight | but meh |
| 05:01.07 | daemoen | so why does the ledmirage forum direct everyone here?> |
| 05:01.17 | ckknight | ledmirage? |
| 05:01.20 | ckknight | never heard of it |
| 05:01.33 | daemoen | insomniax was replaced by mirage ui. |
| 05:01.36 | Rhaegar | guy who makes insomniax >.> |
| 05:01.41 | daemoen | it was on the mirage ui forums that i found this place :-D |
| 05:02.08 | Rhaegar | well, he's started using ace addons in his ui? |
| 05:02.13 | daemoen | i figured you guys all worked together |
| 05:02.21 | daemoen | yeah, hes been using the ace stuff for a while |
| 05:02.25 | Hjalte | Got this error today with Fluidframes http://ace.pastey.net/70132 and the author tells me that one of my addons might be niling my global HIDE variable - Does anyone know what he meant? |
| 05:04.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42373 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - don't update text if mouseover doesn't exist (currently fading). |
| 05:04.36 | Moltarain | hehe haxed my saved var for sphere so now it is like it should =) |
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| 05:05.50 | daemoen | what kind of fps rates do you guys get? |
| 05:06.12 | ckknight | daemoen: on a MacBook Pro, in windowed mode, with cpu profiling on, about 20-30 fps |
| 05:06.36 | daemoen | that with vert sync enabled or disabled ;) |
| 05:07.06 | daemoen | my laptop i turned off windowed mode, it cut my fps down too much, disabled fps, and im runnin 50ish fps |
| 05:07.16 | daemoen | ack, disabled vert sync |
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| 05:09.27 | Moltarain | in wine, full kara raid like 30+ fps in windowed mode with a lot of addons in a window AIXGL enabled X server running on archlinux. using wine emulator. |
| 05:09.50 | daemoen | id actually expect good results in wine :-D |
| 05:09.52 | Moltarain | think im tired... cant write sane lines... |
| 05:10.06 | Kaydeethree | meh. run it in fullscreen mode, tell wine to create a smaller window |
| 05:10.11 | Kaydeethree | neat little trick |
| 05:10.16 | Moltarain | well im all eycandy so im nuking performance due to that :P |
| 05:10.24 | daemoen | if this laptop had nvidia id go ahead and run it through my linux install... but ati and all the new stuff didnt get along so well |
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| 05:11.49 | daemoen | what kind of specs are your machines running? ( just curious, ive seen too many screens with people running really high framerates... 130++) |
| 05:12.30 | Kaydeethree | meh... I've got a pos 5200fx running on a P4 2.4GHz northwood. I'm happy if I get >5fps in raids |
| 05:14.23 | daemoen | i specced out a nice new machine, going to see just how many fps i can hit with the new one :-D. should be fun running in 2048x1536 with 640MB of sli :-) |
| 05:14.50 | Moltarain | x2 3800+ (2x2ghz / no OC) 2Gb ram 7800GTX. |
| 05:15.23 | daemoen | nice |
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| 05:15.55 | daemoen | the one i specced out is 4G of sys ram, 2 8800GTX 320s in sli, x2 5600 |
| 05:16.29 | Moltarain | you know that 2x 8800gtx = silly |
| 05:16.38 | daemoen | whys that :-D |
| 05:16.50 | GanJa | Does anyone know how the /castsequence reset=# really works? more pretaining to the reset=# part.... I have this macro which I assume resets after 10 seconds but isn't reseting after 10 seconds. |
| 05:17.00 | Moltarain | and dont go with x2 and 8800gtx.. that cpu cant handle those... |
| 05:17.14 | Moltarain | you need the fastest intel cpu to be able to use that |
| 05:17.21 | daemoen | we use them at work. |
| 05:17.33 | daemoen | company i work for does video rendering for the government |
| 05:18.00 | Moltarain | well x2 5600 and latest intel is bigg difference :P |
| 05:18.00 | daemoen | rather, video rendering for the flight sims for the military (more adequate way of saying it) |
| 05:18.10 | daemoen | how so? |
| 05:18.22 | daemoen | the 5600 overclocks much better |
| 05:18.51 | Moltarain | well well... |
| 05:19.12 | Moltarain | i do run several servers, and i can tell that you dont run stable... |
| 05:19.32 | daemoen | actually, for servers we dont need that stuff. |
| 05:19.48 | daemoen | for our desktop machines we invest around 12k/desktop |
| 05:20.14 | daemoen | 8 gigs of ram, the absolute latest nvidia graphics devices to test with, sas raid, etc |
| 05:20.31 | daemoen | depends on what youre doing as to which processor is better |
| 05:20.38 | Lyfe | think one of those could fall off the back of a truck in my direction? :) |
| 05:21.08 | daemoen | for video rendering, amd is better. For application and general processing (math functions such as DB) intel is better |
| 05:21.27 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, Baggins no longer worky. :o Just get an empty 'bag' when I open it now. |
| 05:21.41 | Nargiddley | any error ? |
| 05:21.47 | daemoen | Lyfe: im still trying to figure out how to make one fall out at my place, lol |
| 05:21.57 | Lyfe | hehe |
| 05:22.20 | daemoen | what type of servers do you maintain Moltarain? |
| 05:22.25 | daemoen | and what services do they run |
| 05:23.15 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, none |
| 05:39.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42374 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua Text/Text.lua): CowTip - if OnShow occurs before OnTooltipSetUnit, and :GetUnit() works properly, then manually call :OnTooltipSetUnit on the modules. This should prevent a few issues. |
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| 06:06.25 | pakoz | yo |
| 06:13.19 | pakoz | anyone use nraidtracker? i'm trying to find where it puts the collected data |
| 06:13.51 | kebinusan | I use it, but what do you mean, you can export from the fubar plugin |
| 06:14.49 | pakoz | i dont use fubar |
| 06:14.56 | pakoz | i just want manual roster checks that i can refer to |
| 06:15.06 | pakoz | i can do the manual check easy |
| 06:15.09 | pakoz | i just cant view results |
| 06:17.41 | kebinusan | there should be an icon on your minimap Id assume or maybe something with a /nrt slashcommand |
| 06:18.07 | pakoz | no miniman icon to speak of |
| 06:18.16 | pakoz | nor an applicable /command i can see |
| 06:18.23 | pakoz | interval start stop roster standby |
| 06:18.33 | Andune | I checked the code for NRT, I don't think there's any way to get at the data with just th emod alone |
| 06:18.50 | Andune | probably need the FuBar mod to make it useful. |
| 06:18.57 | pakoz | bleh |
| 06:18.59 | pakoz | i hate fubar |
| 06:19.17 | kebinusan | has a RegisterChatCommand option for nrt |
| 06:19.29 | kebinusan | which works for me |
| 06:19.35 | pakoz | i'm not familiar with RegisterChatCommand |
| 06:20.24 | pakoz | i dont see fubar_nraidtracker or anything of the sort either |
| 06:20.28 | pakoz | hmph |
| 06:21.24 | kebinusan | did you download this form http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/nrt.html or form the svn? |
| 06:21.52 | pakoz | via wowaceupdater |
| 06:22.16 | kebinusan | Id recommend that url |
| 06:22.24 | Andune | hate fubar? *boggle* |
| 06:22.26 | kebinusan | at least Im not sure what the nraidtracker on the svn is really |
| 06:22.53 | pakoz | testing |
| 06:23.23 | pakoz | @andunei - like a very clean addon |
| 06:23.25 | pakoz | erm |
| 06:23.26 | pakoz | gui |
| 06:23.58 | pakoz | i'm not an addon maker, i dont have a friend who does it - so no grudge against maker or anything |
| 06:24.00 | pakoz | just dont like it |
| 06:24.05 | Andune | well, to each his own I guess. I love the utility of it, and it's tucked out of the way. |
| 06:24.51 | pakoz | whole new set of slash commands on new nrt |
| 06:24.52 | pakoz | testing |
| 06:27.38 | pakoz | how do i do a manual attendance? |
| 06:27.42 | pakoz | or roster |
| 06:28.16 | kebinusan | I dunno Im not logged in atm, there should be an option for it somewhere |
| 06:29.08 | fromagnon | using Autobar, how would you add the TK mana/health pots to it? |
| 06:29.56 | pakoz | i see it auto checks who is in raid after boss kill |
| 06:30.02 | pakoz | /nrt roster = fail |
| 06:30.07 | pakoz | /nrt attendance = fail |
| 06:30.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42375 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua Fade/Fade.lua): |
| 06:30.45 | CIA-22 | CowTip - add in world object fading options. does it through a hack, checking if |
| 06:30.45 | CIA-22 | :GetAlpha() < 1, making it so there's a 1-second lag before unhovering and |
| 06:30.45 | CIA-22 | actual hide. Don't know of any real way to tell if you're currently hovering |
| 06:30.45 | CIA-22 | over something otherwise. |
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| 06:33.46 | ckknight | hey Thrae |
| 06:34.24 | ckknight | Thrae: I have a conundrum. Do you have any idea how to tell if you're currently actually hovering over a world object? Cause my fading module checks :GetAlpha() < 1, and that's pretty hackish |
| 06:35.23 | ckknight | hrm, could check for a cursor change... |
| 06:35.50 | GanJa | ckk: if mouse hovering cursor/gametooltip change would be your way |
| 06:35.58 | GanJa | for anything else I believe it's impossible |
| 06:36.10 | ckknight | GanJa: GameTooltip doesn't change, that's the main issue. |
| 06:36.12 | ckknight | if you unhover |
| 06:36.19 | GanJa | it hides =) |
| 06:36.22 | ckknight | on say, a mailbox or other doodad |
| 06:36.24 | ckknight | no, it doesn't hide. |
| 06:36.27 | ckknight | it fades out |
| 06:36.27 | GanJa | or begins it's countdown |
| 06:36.39 | ckknight | and it only fades out after a second and a half |
| 06:36.46 | GanJa | yes but you can hack into it's fading procedure.... If I recall that variable is stored on the frame |
| 06:37.14 | ckknight | nah, it isn't |
| 06:37.15 | GanJa | I'd have to do some digging but I'm quite sure there is say a frame.fadetime var you can hack into |
| 06:37.29 | ckknight | I tried, no variables on the GameTooltip change |
| 06:38.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42376 10CowTip/ (6 files in 6 dirs): CowTip - remove CowTip.currentTooltipUnit, as it's kind of a hack |
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| 06:39.11 | jwwpua | anyone use sanitybags? |
| 06:40.28 | GanJa | ckk: your PM |
| 06:41.11 | GanJa | it's in blizzards code |
| 06:41.13 | GanJa | this.fadeInTime = 0; |
| 06:41.15 | GanJa | this.holdTime = 0; |
| 06:41.17 | GanJa | this.fadeOutTime = 0; |
| 06:41.21 | GanJa | are the 3 vars you want to hack into |
| 06:43.02 | GanJa | hmmm |
| 06:43.07 | ckknight | yea, but it doesn't seem like GameTooltip ever uses FadingFrame |
| 06:43.12 | GanJa | although they do not appear to ever hold anything |
| 06:44.17 | GanJa | I assume your attempting to hook into when your mouse is over an object? |
| 06:44.56 | ckknight | yea, basically |
| 06:46.38 | GanJa | well the only way I can think to do it, which is a complete hack, is to make a frame parented to the gametooltip and track when it shows and doesn't |
| 06:46.58 | GanJa | you can then scan when it shows to see if the info in it is what you want |
| 06:47.44 | GanJa | and you can also pair it with cursor scanning if you want. I suggest the gametooltip method more though cuz it gives you a bit more of a readinf of what your hovering over. Although if it's just for say like gathering skills then there is no need for gametooltip |
| 06:48.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42377 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - make menu clearer for the Show tooltips stuff. Add ability to change when world objects are shown. |
| 06:49.09 | ckknight | GanJa: it's a tooltip mod, I basically want to hide the tooltip once you unhover |
| 06:54.32 | GanJa | in that case the only way and it's actually quite simple is the cursor change and storing what the gametooltip had before the change and comparing it to what it has now after the change |
| 06:54.40 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r42378 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.de.lua Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua): |
| 06:54.40 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:54.40 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
| 06:54.40 | CIA-22 | - German update |
| 06:54.53 | GanJa | if it did indeed change then don't hide, if it didn't then hide |
| 06:56.59 | ckknight | yea, I'm gonna do the cursor change thingy |
| 06:57.10 | ckknight | though I can't figure out the API to get the current cursor image... |
| 06:58.51 | GanJa | as far as I can tell there is no way to get the current cursor |
| 06:59.08 | GanJa | BUT there are like 4-5 functions which are used to set the cursor, you can hook them and keep track of it |
| 07:00.38 | GanJa | like I said though you're gonna have to hook the gametooltip as well because if you don't you could hide the tooltip when you don't want to |
| 07:01.17 | ckknight | too much hooking is bad karma |
| 07:02.37 | GanJa | Yea, but for example say you have a dead mob next to a vien |
| 07:02.39 | GanJa | vein* |
| 07:02.55 | ckknight | yea? |
| 07:03.02 | GanJa | you hover over the vein then hover over the mob, your mod (without the gametooltip check) would hide the frame |
| 07:03.27 | ckknight | actually, no, because OnHide and OnShow would be called, resetting the state |
| 07:04.45 | ckknight | and bah, SetCursor isn't called when you do ingame stuff, only when it's manually called in the lua |
| 07:06.46 | GanJa | You know what |
| 07:06.56 | GanJa | we've both looked at it FAR to hard... |
| 07:06.58 | GanJa | it's simple |
| 07:07.08 | GanJa | hook the :FadeOut() |
| 07:08.04 | ckknight | nah, it's not called on unhovering in-world |
| 07:08.14 | ckknight | only if it's called manually |
| 07:08.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42379 10CowTip/Fade/Fade.lua: CowTip_Fade - check the CURSOR_UPDATE event, to keep track of world objects and whether or not to fade them. |
| 07:09.02 | ckknight | alright |
| 07:09.06 | ckknight | that should work well enough |
| 07:10.04 | starlon | Now fix the borders :) |
| 07:10.09 | GanJa | Well if it doesn't work the only way I can see doing it is a bunch of hooks and checks into the gametooltip |
| 07:10.32 | ckknight | yea, I do that already |
| 07:10.40 | ckknight | starlon: I don't know anything wrong with the borders. |
| 07:11.06 | starlon | Oh I thought they were incomplete. |
| 07:12.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42380 10CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip_Appearance - set default edgeSize to 16 |
| 07:12.36 | ckknight | starlon: that might make it less funky by default |
| 07:12.42 | ckknight | what do you mean "incomplete" |
| 07:13.13 | starlon | Sec |
| 07:15.41 | starlon | http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/Borders.jpg |
| 07:15.53 | starlon | Is that how they're supposed to look? |
| 07:16.01 | ckknight | ah |
| 07:16.06 | ckknight | okay, set the border size to 16 |
| 07:16.12 | ckknight | it was a typo |
| 07:18.43 | starlon | http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/Borders2.jpg |
| 07:19.41 | ckknight | perhaps change the color? |
| 07:20.50 | starlon | That got it. |
| 07:21.16 | starlon | Any way to put the bars inside the borders? |
| 07:22.31 | ckknight | no |
| 07:22.49 | Killmore | ClosetGnome is broken :( |
| 07:22.54 | Killmore | [2007/07/01 03:17:55-216-x1]: ClosetGnome\ClosetGnome.lua:1095: 'end' expected (to close 'do' at line 913) near '<eof>' |
| 07:23.32 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42381 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (Emeriss.lua Ysondre.lua): BigWigs_Azeroth: fix zhCN locale |
| 07:24.03 | starlon | That sucks |
| 07:25.27 | starlon | http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/Borders3.jpg |
| 07:25.32 | starlon | That's how it's meant to look? |
| 07:26.04 | ckknight | I'd set the border texture to Blizzard Tooltip |
| 07:26.13 | ckknight | but I mean, "meant to look" is arbitrary |
| 07:26.18 | ckknight | it's meant to be customizeable |
| 07:26.24 | Neebler | recap + violation? why |
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| 07:27.35 | starlon | Well, I'm speaking more of the gap between the border and the bar when I say that. Sorry, I should have been more specific with that. |
| 07:27.53 | starlon | And the way the corners don't match up. |
| 07:28.10 | starlon | It does look better with the tooltip texture. |
| 07:29.37 | starlon | I guess that's just a personal preference though. |
| 07:31.12 | ckknight | oh yea, that's supposed to be that way. |
| 07:32.26 | starlon | Well thanks for the help. |
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| 07:38.10 | ckknight | anybody watch the show Jekyll? |
| 07:38.34 | Zicon | Yeesssss. |
| 07:38.48 | ckknight | I like it |
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| 07:47.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42382 10CowTip/ (9 files in 8 dirs): |
| 07:47.02 | CIA-22 | CowTip - add RaidTargetIcon module. |
| 07:47.02 | CIA-22 | - fix a mass-typo |
| 07:47.30 | ckknight | plztest |
| 07:47.31 | ckknight | kthx |
| 07:52.00 | abyssichate | I'll do that in a sec |
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| 07:55.57 | PHL-Chuck | latest closetgnome from wau broke for me :-(2007/07/01 03:39:57-299-x1]: ClosetGnome\ClosetGnome.lua:1095: 'end' expected (to close 'do' at line 913) near '<eof>' |
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| 08:08.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42383 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add in theoretical support for item and spell tooltips. |
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| 08:10.56 | ckknight | I still like the name CowTip |
| 08:10.57 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 08:11.04 | starlon | Yeah :) |
| 08:12.33 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42384 10LittleWigs/ (8 files in 3 dirs): LittleWigs: add zhCN local |
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| 08:15.26 | theoddone33 | it'd be nice if you could tip taurens |
| 08:15.32 | theoddone33 | about as close as you can get is snowballs I think |
| 08:15.42 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:15.46 | starlon | The thought crossed my mind more than once. |
| 08:16.24 | starlon | I have to settle for mooing at them. |
| 08:16.33 | theoddone33 | I moo at alliance |
| 08:16.38 | theoddone33 | for no good reason |
| 08:16.41 | Wobin | You can tip taurens |
| 08:17.08 | theoddone33 | ah yes |
| 08:17.16 | theoddone33 | but I'm sure they're all blacksmiths |
| 08:18.29 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:18.42 | PHL-Chuck | whats a small editor with line numbers |
| 08:19.03 | [Ammo] | notepad++ |
| 08:19.06 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 08:19.07 | PHL-Chuck | thx |
| 08:23.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42385 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - properly handle faction for EotS battlemaster. |
| 08:23.44 | PHL-Chuck | finding where a missing end is .. not so fun is it |
| 08:23.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42386 10CowTip/ (Appearance/Appearance.lua Text/Text.lua): CowTip_Text - properly handle faction for EotS battlemaster. |
| 08:24.29 | Wobin | PHL-Chuck: syntax highlighting ftw |
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| 08:25.45 | PHL-Chuck | that those lines that follow down from the for's and such |
| 08:26.09 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42387 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: fix bug at line 913 |
| 08:26.12 | PHL-Chuck | not really looked at source code since... well, the apple II |
| 08:26.20 | [Ammo] | fixed :p |
| 08:26.21 | Srosh | thanks ammo! |
| 08:26.28 | PHL-Chuck | cry where was it |
| 08:26.33 | [Ammo] | line 913 |
| 08:26.35 | [Ammo] | missed an end |
| 08:26.39 | PHL-Chuck | I looked :/ |
| 08:26.47 | [Ammo] | put your glasses on |
| 08:26.50 | [Ammo] | and wash them |
| 08:26.55 | starlon | lawl |
| 08:27.00 | Wobin | ergh |
| 08:27.05 | PHL-Chuck | meantie |
| 08:27.06 | [Ammo] | the problem was at line 917 |
| 08:27.07 | Wobin | closetgnome missing an end =P |
| 08:27.15 | Wobin | 913 |
| 08:27.19 | PHL-Chuck | I counted wrong, I counted 5 and didnt count the do |
| 08:27.20 | theoddone33 | since I went to outland... I could swear my runecloth to netherweave drop ratio has been like 4 to 1 |
| 08:27.22 | [Ammo] | 917 was the solution :) |
| 08:27.23 | PHL-Chuck | there were 5 ends |
| 08:27.40 | PHL-Chuck | lol I just wanted to make it work again lol |
| 08:28.50 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42388 10Violation/ (Violation.toc locales/deDE.lua): Violation: add deDE locale by Farook |
| 08:29.10 | [Ammo] | well I got in game, and it bugged on me |
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| 08:35.54 | Srosh | vhaarr, BanzaiAlert always shows "Suspended" at standby in options, however after I toggled it said "... is now suspended" and after another toggle "is now active" however the options still show "Suspended" |
| 08:36.10 | ckknight | funky |
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| 08:38.56 | |Kev| | are there any macaceupdater users about? |
| 08:41.42 | starlon | How often does files.wowace.com update? |
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| 08:43.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42390 10CowTip/ (6 files in 6 dirs): CowTip - cache some globals |
| 08:43.42 | ckknight | starlon: every 20 minutes |
| 08:43.48 | starlon | k |
| 08:43.56 | ckknight | |Kev|: WAU2 works on macs, so you know. beta, though |
| 08:44.10 | |Kev| | oh, that's a shame :) |
| 08:44.35 | ckknight | what's a shame? |
| 08:44.41 | |Kev| | that WAU works on macs :) |
| 08:44.48 | starlon | o.O |
| 08:45.25 | Fisker- | it's a shame it's java |
| 08:45.47 | |Kev| | (mau came about because wau didn't work on macs, and wasn't going to any time soon, it's a bit of a shame if the project dies out now because wau comes to mac) |
| 08:45.54 | |Kev| | oh, wau2 is java? not .net any more? |
| 08:46.01 | ckknight | yea, java |
| 08:46.02 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 08:46.14 | ckknight | I don't see the shame |
| 08:46.16 | Fisker- | and shouldn't mono be able to run WAU on mac btw? |
| 08:46.29 | ckknight | Java works good for cross-platform |
| 08:46.31 | ckknight | mono isn't up to par for cross-platform guis yet |
| 08:46.40 | |Kev| | Fisker-: the gui isn't complete |
| 08:47.01 | |Kev| | ckknight: but I guess you didn't put much time into mau to see the shame of it being obsoleted ;) |
| 08:47.09 | Fisker- | java itself is shit though :P |
| 08:47.17 | ckknight | |Kev|: sure didn't. |
| 08:47.27 | ckknight | |Kev|: I just use SVN |
| 08:47.41 | |Kev| | ckknight: otoh, I put quite a bit of time into mau ;) |
| 08:47.48 | ckknight | Fisker-: it's good in some respects, I don't think it's good for every problem, though |
| 08:48.00 | ckknight | |Kev|: *shrug* these things happen |
| 08:48.08 | |Kev| | yeah |
| 08:48.11 | Fisker- | I just think it's very slow |
| 08:48.19 | |Kev| | Fisker-: it doesn't need to be |
| 08:49.00 | ckknight | Java's really not slow compared to other things |
| 08:49.06 | ckknight | I mean, C is gonna be fast |
| 08:49.15 | ckknight | in most cases, faster than Java |
| 08:49.17 | ckknight | (and by C I mean C/C++) |
| 08:49.31 | ckknight | but all in all, Java isn't slow as molasses as it used to be |
| 08:49.36 | |Kev| | even by the time you reach objective C, it's not as fast as C |
| 08:49.39 | ckknight | I'd prefer it if it had a better handle on memory usage, though |
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| 08:50.10 | theoddone33 | I like objective c |
| 08:50.20 | theoddone33 | except I don't remember anything about it except that I like it |
| 08:50.21 | ckknight | there are times when JIT'ing can make things faster than precompiled code |
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| 08:50.37 | Thrae | theoddone33: If you like objective c, and you like lua, then try the D programming language |
| 08:50.43 | ckknight | doesn't happen all the time, but as life progresses, we'll see more of it |
| 08:50.44 | |Kev| | theoddone33: I only know what little obj-c I learned coding mau |
| 08:50.49 | theoddone33 | mmm here's the problem with D |
| 08:50.59 | theoddone33 | I don't like things that are popular |
| 08:51.04 | Mikk | haha |
| 08:51.33 | theoddone33 | I work on consoles, I think D is as of yet unproven there |
| 08:51.35 | theoddone33 | but who knows |
| 08:51.37 | nevcairiel | does gcc compile D yet? |
| 08:51.37 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:51.58 | nevcairiel | i like the fact about D that you can run it as a shellscript |
| 08:52.01 | nevcairiel | without compiling |
| 08:52.21 | ckknight | yea, I think so, nevcairiel |
| 08:52.23 | theoddone33 | next thing I plan to take semi-seriously and learn is python |
| 08:52.30 | |Kev| | python's nice |
| 08:52.46 | |Kev| | but I wouldn't use it for production code :) |
| 08:52.54 | theoddone33 | yeah I hated it for a while (see above) but now I'm coming around |
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| 08:53.32 | |Kev| | things like Python are difficult to keep yourself honest with |
| 08:53.41 | theoddone33 | what do you mean? |
| 08:54.09 | |Kev| | well, without type checking you have to work that little bit harder to validate the input for methods |
| 08:54.21 | theoddone33 | oh |
| 08:54.32 | theoddone33 | ocaml then |
| 08:54.39 | |Kev| | and when you can reach inside another object and mangle things directly, it's hard to motivate yourself to do it the right way sometimes |
| 08:54.48 | theoddone33 | if my brain didn't have this objection to me understanding functional programming I'd be all over ocaml |
| 08:55.05 | |Kev| | and of course it's really vital to have unit tests for something like Python |
| 08:55.10 | |Kev| | even more so than other languages |
| 08:55.48 | theoddone33 | I'm interested in it because it's the only reasonable script language I know of that's full featured enough to be useful for one-shot tools |
| 08:56.11 | |Kev| | I code all my misc. scripts in python |
| 08:56.21 | |Kev| | stuff like massaging data files, etc |
| 08:56.35 | theoddone33 | for instance |
| 08:56.51 | theoddone33 | at work we have a process that runs a ton of batch files that all run the same command with different params |
| 08:57.13 | |Kev| | and, indeed, I'm about to start interfacing Python with my C code for output parsing, making pretty graphs etc |
| 08:57.26 | theoddone33 | so I'd like to improve that by reading the stuff that it passes to the command out of a script file and doing it all in one shot |
| 08:57.30 | |Kev| | leaving the hardcore processing in C++, and moving all the nice stuff to Python :) |
| 08:57.45 | theoddone33 | python would be ideal for stuff like that |
| 08:57.49 | |Kev| | yep |
| 08:58.11 | theoddone33 | but in that specific case I'm doing it in c++ because I don't want to rewrite our custom script language parser in python, heh |
| 08:58.18 | theoddone33 | and I don't know how to bind it |
| 08:58.44 | Mikk | rewrite the custom scripts in python? :P |
| 08:58.56 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 08:58.59 | theoddone33 | but consistency is good |
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| 08:59.22 | theoddone33 | when I say script I don't mean script, it's a long story |
| 08:59.43 | theoddone33 | it's not a long story... our script language is pretty much just lua tables |
| 08:59.53 | theoddone33 | it's not actually lua, it just works the same way |
| 08:59.59 | theoddone33 | and it's all data, no flow control |
| 09:03.12 | Mikk | rewrite as lua! \o/ |
| 09:03.23 | Mikk | nah, importing all that shit into lua would be inefficient |
| 09:03.38 | Mikk | (i'm assuming it's "Lots of data") |
| 09:03.46 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 09:03.56 | theoddone33 | our pools take up like 3M |
| 09:04.06 | theoddone33 | which doesn't sound like much |
| 09:04.17 | theoddone33 | until you only have 32M of ram on your target platform |
| 09:04.24 | Mikk | hehe |
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| 09:06.17 | theoddone33 | but like... people have suggested lua |
| 09:06.19 | theoddone33 | then the boss told us near the end of last year that we were going to move to ... forth |
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| 09:06.27 | Mikk | .... |
| 09:06.28 | Mikk | forth |
| 09:06.38 | Mikk | did he pick up some success story book from 1982? |
| 09:07.05 | theoddone33 | I guess |
| 09:07.07 | Mikk | or talk too much to financial IT people who are stuck with old watercooled IBM mainframes? |
| 09:07.35 | theoddone33 | he read an article about a forth variant that was used to good effect as a plugin/script system for autodesk or something |
| 09:07.40 | Mikk | IBM techie tool of choice in the early 80's: pipe wrench |
| 09:08.57 | theoddone33 | we never did integrate forth |
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| 09:09.13 | theoddone33 | which is good because as best as I can tell, it was the worst language ever |
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| 09:12.07 | theoddone33 | for this fumper quest in terrokar |
| 09:12.22 | theoddone33 | I wonder if you can run around spamming it and create an army of sand gnomes to help you take over towers |
| 09:13.15 | Ominous | morning all |
| 09:15.17 | theoddone33 | hm, no you can't |
| 09:15.18 | theoddone33 | sad |
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| 09:38.37 | mitch0 | is rabbit around? |
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| 09:40.06 | Fisker- | ~seen vhaarr |
| 09:40.20 | purl | vhaarr is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 6h 29m, last said: 'I thought I said that'. |
| 09:40.20 | Fisker- | rabbit = vhaarr btw :P |
| 09:40.20 | mitch0 | oh, w/e :) |
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| 09:40.33 | mitch0 | guess he's /afk :) |
| 09:44.39 | pakoz2 | Anyone know of a mod that sorts debuffs on an enemy, basically i want to see sunderarmor/coe/cos/coweakness on the fly |
| 09:45.01 | mitch0 | there was one with much praise, forgot the name though |
| 09:45.10 | mitch0 | something like oDebuff |
| 09:45.20 | pakoz2 | ace? |
| 09:45.27 | mitch0 | don't remember :( |
| 09:46.13 | mitch0 | maybe it's pDeduffList (ace) |
| 09:46.23 | pakoz2 | looks right |
| 09:46.32 | pakoz2 | i'll check it out, thx much |
| 09:46.32 | mitch0 | np |
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| 09:48.30 | CIA-22 | 03airochen * r42391 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 09:48.31 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:48.31 | CIA-22 | -fix Improved Leader of the Pack zhTW |
| 09:48.47 | pakoz2 | ---=SVN: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/pDebuffList/ |
| 09:48.47 | pakoz2 | whats svn? |
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| 09:49.04 | mitch0 | subversion.tigris.org |
| 09:49.29 | mitch0 | but you can get the latest pack from files.wowace.com/pDeduffList |
| 09:49.35 | pakoz2 | Even with addons that resort your debuffs on the list (like Pitbull for instance) you still need to scan over the list. |
| 09:49.40 | pakoz2 | looks like pitbull sortss |
| 09:50.09 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42392 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 09:50.09 | CIA-22 | DewdropLib: |
| 09:50.09 | CIA-22 | - Even better error messages for methods |
| 09:50.10 | CIA-22 | - BUGFIX: If dewdrop encountered .get&.set for an item, it'd forget that it's in a passing group for all subsequent items in the group (not just for the current item). Original dewdrop bug, don't blame me :-) |
| 09:51.03 | mitch0 | mikk: you hack on this dewdrop like there's no tomorrow :) some personal vendetta? |
| 09:51.42 | Mikk | no, it's just that i added some functionality to it that people wanted, and created some bugs. i fixed em. but now i'm getting blamed for all bugs in dewdrop :P |
| 09:51.57 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 09:52.34 | mitch0 | mikk: where is the docs for DewDrop btw? |
| 09:52.49 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Dewdrop |
| 09:52.57 | mitch0 | ah, lowercase d :) |
| 09:53.00 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42393 10ChatLog/Locale-zhCN.lua: ChatLog: update zhCN local . |
| 09:53.29 | mitch0 | is cwdg == vhaar? |
| 09:53.36 | Mikk | no |
| 09:53.49 | Mikk | cdwg is some chinese localiser i'd assume |
| 09:54.03 | Mikk | unless vhaarr learned chinese recently |
| 09:54.04 | mitch0 | ah |
| 09:54.17 | mitch0 | I really need rabbit :) |
| 09:54.25 | Mikk | he's zzzing |
| 09:54.26 | mitch0 | closetgnome is acting up |
| 09:54.36 | Mikk | how? |
| 09:54.43 | Mikk | i've hacked some closetgnome before |
| 09:54.44 | mitch0 | and there's a comment in his code that hints that he knows about it |
| 09:55.07 | mitch0 | when I want to switch from 2 hander to mainhand+offhand, it fails |
| 09:55.25 | Mikk | ah, that sounds like vhaarr territory yeah |
| 09:55.47 | mitch0 | I suspect it's because it tries to swap the offhand first, which fails obviously, but it seems very deliberate that the offhand is swapped first, and I don't know why |
| 09:56.22 | Mikk | could be that it needs to be swapped first when you go from mh+oh to 2h |
| 09:56.32 | Mikk | hm, no, it doesn't does it |
| 09:56.47 | mitch0 | not really... |
| 09:56.50 | mitch0 | will have to check |
| 09:56.58 | mitch0 | maybe there's some corner case when your inv is full |
| 09:57.18 | mitch0 | but then the mh+oh -> 2h would fail anyway, no matter what order you trie |
| 09:57.21 | mitch0 | try even |
| 09:57.26 | Mikk | yeah |
| 09:57.29 | pakoz2 | whacha all use for unit frames? |
| 09:57.38 | mitch0 | pitbull |
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| 09:57.46 | Mikk | blizzard |
| 09:57.59 | Mikk | agUF is popular |
| 09:58.08 | pakoz2 | got a screenie of pitbull on hand or agUF? |
| 09:58.24 | pakoz2 | i found aguf |
| 09:58.30 | pakoz2 | pitbull isnt so easy to search for ;x |
| 09:58.33 | mitch0 | pitbull is out on wowi I think |
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| 09:59.53 | Mikk | well.. the thing about pitbull is that you can make the unitframe display bloody whatever you like, however you like, wherever you like |
| 09:59.58 | Mikk | but it's a bit harder to set up =) |
| 10:00.12 | Mikk | consequently it's also a bit hungrier on cpu and ram |
| 10:00.19 | Mikk | so if agUF does all you need, by all means, go with it |
| 10:00.34 | mitch0 | I don't think it's that hungry if you turn off most of the bells and whistles |
| 10:00.38 | pakoz2 | i like highly customization |
| 10:00.48 | Mikk | try em out both |
| 10:00.50 | pakoz2 | does either have /focus? |
| 10:00.55 | ThePug[zZz] | Anyone know of a good SW Stats replacement that doesn't look ugly? |
| 10:00.56 | mitch0 | my only prob with it is that ckk tends to break the config options regularly and then I have to start from scratch :) |
| 10:01.03 | pakoz2 | Recap |
| 10:01.05 | Mikk | yeah pitbull is very new |
| 10:01.08 | pakoz2 | Recap@thepug |
| 10:01.16 | mitch0 | thepug: or violation |
| 10:01.27 | mitch0 | depends on what exactly you need it for |
| 10:01.27 | Mikk | violation is very basic though, and will stay that way |
| 10:01.41 | Mikk | recap, recount, assessment = lots of details |
| 10:01.42 | ThePug[zZz] | Only looking for something that's going to display healing/dmg done |
| 10:01.42 | Mikk | violation = basic |
| 10:01.46 | Mikk | violation |
| 10:01.46 | ThePug[zZz] | That's all I need. |
| 10:01.50 | pakoz2 | swstats then lol |
| 10:01.50 | mitch0 | well, all I need is a damage meter, to see how am I doing, so... |
| 10:01.59 | Mikk | that's violation |
| 10:02.01 | pakoz2 | recap is good for detailed data |
| 10:02.14 | pakoz2 | miss parry dodge max hit min hit avg hit number of glances |
| 10:02.16 | pakoz2 | list goes on |
| 10:02.28 | Mikk | aye recount and assessment does those too |
| 10:02.48 | pakoz2 | recount was buggy when i tried it, but it was new |
| 10:02.51 | Mikk | i don't mind running something like that _sometimes_ when i'm trying to optimize stats |
| 10:03.15 | Mikk | but most of the time i just want to be able to tell who's slackign so i can chew their head off :> |
| 10:03.39 | pakoz2 | whatever the mod, you need to have universal usage over your raid |
| 10:03.44 | Mikk | and violation's UI == nummy |
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| 10:03.49 | pakoz2 | sync is important |
| 10:03.58 | Mikk | violation parses swstats messages |
| 10:03.59 | mitch0 | btw, if I have a slash-cmd clash with another addon, is it enough to add an alias like "SLASH_RANGECHECK2 = "/rangedisplay"" ? |
| 10:03.59 | Mikk | that's good |
| 10:04.43 | pakoz2 | hmm |
| 10:04.45 | pakoz2 | what is this "AtlasLoot - Updated to rev WITH Externals 42378.1 |
| 10:04.46 | Mikk | think so |
| 10:04.49 | mitch0 | mikk: btw, are you the author of MSBT? |
| 10:04.57 | Mikk | %&#¤%#&¤##&¤#%&%¤&#%¤%&#%¤#%¤ |
| 10:04.58 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 10:05.00 | purl | somebody said mikk was NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 10:05.28 | mitch0 | is that a no? :) |
| 10:05.56 | pakoz2 | "bleh |
| 10:06.02 | pakoz2 | pitbull needs a gui config |
| 10:06.08 | Mikk | there is one |
| 10:06.12 | Mikk | i think |
| 10:06.17 | mitch0 | yeah, config mode |
| 10:06.44 | mitch0 | it would need a more friendly config for the DogTag stuff though |
| 10:06.49 | mitch0 | but that's kinda hard |
| 10:08.24 | mitch0 | bloody flies |
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| 10:10.07 | mitch0 | I'll give a shot to closetgnome with swapped mh-oh order... hope it won't accidentally drop my new arena dagger :) |
| 10:10.10 | evl_ | [Ammo]: did you do some ag optimizations? |
| 10:10.33 | ThePug[zZz] | Violation is very nice. |
| 10:10.46 | evl_ | Too bad it's updated 324567 a day and there's no stable branch |
| 10:11.31 | ThePug[zZz] | I usually update my mods a few times a day. |
| 10:12.43 | ThePug[zZz] | Question, with Bongos I was able to point over an icon and press a button to make it do a keybind. But with bartender I can't find this option. Is there a mod that would allow me to do this? |
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| 10:14.08 | pakoz2 | there is, lemme try to remember |
| 10:15.16 | Mikk | vio is pretty damn stable yeah |
| 10:15.48 | Mikk | mitch0: could be that you updated it right around the time when i broke dewdrop and it got reverted. and vio was relying on the new functionality in dewdrop. |
| 10:16.06 | Mikk | other than that, it's been 100% the last bunch of weeks afaik |
| 10:16.12 | pakoz2 | im gonna stick with xperl- over pitbull or aguf |
| 10:16.40 | ThePug[zZz] | xperl is so old school |
| 10:16.43 | ThePug[zZz] | pitbull is where it's at |
| 10:17.10 | pakoz2 | xperl has a better layout for me |
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| 10:17.37 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r42394 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: added "Panic" from vashj and "Wrath of the Astromancer" from solarian |
| 10:18.05 | pakoz2 | babble eh? |
| 10:18.32 | pakoz2 | a library to help with localization |
| 10:18.34 | pakoz2 | whats that mean? |
| 10:19.26 | pakoz2 | god i have some mod thats just SCREAMING at me when i get aggro lol |
| 10:19.31 | pakoz2 | and im a tank so its realllllllly annoying |
| 10:19.38 | pakoz2 | but i cant figure out what it is |
| 10:19.59 | Mikk | pakoz2: libraries are used by developers to reduce the amount of time it takes for them to write their mods |
| 10:20.17 | Mikk | in this case, "Babble" takes care of translating messages in different languages (localizations) |
| 10:20.32 | pakoz2 | ah |
| 10:20.42 | pakoz2 | question two, what audio files can be used by addons? |
| 10:20.50 | Mikk | .wav and .mp3 |
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| 10:20.55 | pakoz2 | im trying to find out what mod has this horrible noise |
| 10:21.14 | pakoz2 | its not a wav or an mp3 |
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| 10:21.28 | Mikk | could be a standard game sound that it reuses |
| 10:21.41 | pakoz2 | its a horrible horrible noise |
| 10:21.45 | Mikk | hehe |
| 10:21.56 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42395 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: update zhCN locale |
| 10:22.32 | Mikk | well.. if you hunt for .lua files containing "playsound" you'll at least know which mods play noises |
| 10:22.37 | Mikk | but a lot one mods do |
| 10:22.41 | Mikk | s/one/of/ |
| 10:22.50 | ThePug[zZz] | Violation reminds me of Web 2.0 |
| 10:22.56 | ThePug[zZz] | the bar at the top and the simplicity |
| 10:23.08 | mitch0 | pakoz: I was told yesterday it could be Omen. I'll hunt it down, too :) |
| 10:23.15 | pakoz2 | omg |
| 10:23.17 | pakoz2 | it could be omen |
| 10:23.22 | pakoz2 | since i updated it recently |
| 10:23.39 | mitch0 | first I thought it was some melcanzar emote :) |
| 10:24.23 | pakoz2 | yea its omen |
| 10:24.33 | pakoz2 | its the "cheer" sound warning |
| 10:24.43 | pakoz2 | omen keeps losing my settings every update- kinda annoyin |
| 10:27.24 | pakoz2 | sorry i asked this earlier, i may have missed the answer |
| 10:27.31 | pakoz2 | when i use wowaceupdater |
| 10:27.36 | pakoz2 | it often says "eePanels - Updated to rev WITH Externals 40379.1042" |
| 10:27.58 | pakoz2 | i'm getting like 50 updates a day, are externals like.. |
| 10:28.02 | pakoz2 | well ya help me out here |
| 10:28.09 | Mikk | externals are all the libraries |
| 10:28.13 | Mikk | there's two ways of dealing with it |
| 10:28.33 | Mikk | 1. Download all the libraries packed into the addon so you don't have to care about em (that's "WITH externals") |
| 10:28.40 | Mikk | 2. Download libraries as separate addons |
| 10:28.52 | Mikk | The benefit of 1 is that shit just magically works |
| 10:29.01 | pakoz2 | threat is a library of omen right? |
| 10:29.02 | Mikk | The benefit of 2 is that your game loads faster |
| 10:29.06 | Mikk | Yes |
| 10:29.23 | Mikk | There's more work involved with option 2 though |
| 10:29.27 | Mikk | At least as of yet |
| 10:29.31 | Mikk | It'll be better with WAU2 |
| 10:29.55 | pakoz2 | can i tell wowaceupdater to download the libs as a full addon so it stops updating the included libs? |
| 10:30.06 | Mikk | more or less yes |
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| 10:30.22 | pakoz2 | i just have to manually select all the stand alone libs? |
| 10:30.23 | mitch0 | hohum. ipairs instead of pairs fsckd it up :) |
| 10:30.23 | Mikk | you have to go to http://files.wowace.com/ and download StandAloneLibraries as a regular zip file and install it |
| 10:30.30 | pakoz2 | rofl |
| 10:30.43 | Mikk | Then you can tell WAU to use "without externals" |
| 10:31.00 | Mikk | pakoz2: or you can select libs manually in wau too ofc, that works also. more work to figure out which ones you need tho =) |
| 10:31.01 | pakoz2 | "!!!StandaloneLibraries "? |
| 10:31.05 | Mikk | yes |
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| 10:31.31 | pakoz2 | "!!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries " = no describ |
| 10:31.31 | Mikk | btw |
| 10:31.35 | Mikk | make a backup of your AddOns folder |
| 10:31.38 | pakoz2 | hehe |
| 10:31.41 | pakoz2 | did already |
| 10:31.42 | Mikk | don't use leavemealone =) |
| 10:31.43 | Mikk | good =) |
| 10:31.58 | pakoz2 | i love my ui ;x i dont trust nuffin lol |
| 10:32.03 | Mikk | then, on your next run, you need to tell wau to clean up all the embedded shit... ec |
| 10:32.05 | Mikk | sec* |
| 10:32.08 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks for reminding me unintentionally to do the same for my folder Mikk :O |
| 10:32.21 | pakoz2 | so im guessing this stand alone libs has every lib |
| 10:32.26 | pakoz2 | and it just updates the 1 mod? |
| 10:32.28 | Mikk | basically yeah |
| 10:32.32 | pakoz2 | and you said game loads faster? |
| 10:32.41 | Mikk | not yet, you have to get rid of all the embeds first |
| 10:32.46 | Mikk | actually, this is probably easier for you to use |
| 10:32.49 | pakoz2 | manually x? |
| 10:32.59 | Mikk | go download http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat and stick it in your addons folder and run it |
| 10:33.05 | Mikk | it just zaps all the embeds from all the addons |
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| 10:33.22 | Wobin | hm, are the normal flightpath gryphons/hippogryphs faster than the epic flying mounts? |
| 10:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 10:33.32 | pakoz2 | not always |
| 10:33.36 | Mikk | Wobin: depends. sometimes they're faster, sometimes they're slower |
| 10:33.39 | Wobin | Well, ignoring pathing |
| 10:33.40 | Mikk | taxis change speed a lot |
| 10:33.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i was just going to say, not by much |
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| 10:34.00 | Mikk | install speedfu or something and you'll see them changing speed a lot |
| 10:34.04 | Wobin | I know they tend not to 'crow flies' a destination |
| 10:34.15 | Wobin | maybe they have something against crows |
| 10:34.17 | pakoz2 | is "Ace" no longer in use? |
| 10:34.23 | Mikk | correct |
| 10:34.30 | Mikk | that's ace v1. we're on v2 now |
| 10:34.40 | Mikk | well, theoretically there could be some old-ass addon out on the net somewhere that uses v1 |
| 10:34.45 | Mikk | but none of the ones available on wowace.com will |
| 10:34.49 | Wobin | Nothing wrong with Ace1 |
| 10:35.32 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42396 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Add support for setting which MSBT scroll area to use. |
| 10:35.40 | mitch0 | wabbit! |
| 10:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol, backupping my Interfacefolder + WTF folder takes about 2 1/2 minutes |
| 10:35.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and this is a RAID 0+1 D: |
| 10:36.01 | mitch0 | vhaar: I need help! :) |
| 10:36.07 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: it's likely a lot faster if you zip them with low compression |
| 10:36.13 | vhaarr | just ask |
| 10:36.15 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 10:36.19 | pakoz2 | sry, where did you say to uncheck install externals? |
| 10:36.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk that's a good idea. |
| 10:36.24 | mitch0 | vhaarr: there's this closetgnome bug |
| 10:36.30 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll do it next time |
| 10:36.40 | Mikk | pakoz2: edit->preferences iirc |
| 10:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | considering that |
| 10:36.42 | mitch0 | vhaarr: you can't equip that with a two hander, or somesuch (switching from 2h -> mh+oh |
| 10:36.51 | vhaarr | mitch0: yeah known bug, thanks |
| 10:36.52 | pakoz2 | thx |
| 10:36.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [C:] 434,276.15 MB free, 610,477.81 MB total. |
| 10:36.53 | pakoz2 | got it |
| 10:36.58 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42397 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: fixed stancebar offset problem |
| 10:37.09 | Mikk | oof. 1TB disk |
| 10:37.11 | sag_ich_nicht | you tend to get lazy if you have a lot of HDD space |
| 10:37.11 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I think going over the "set" with sorted order would fix it, wouldn't it? |
| 10:37.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk that's not one 1TB |
| 10:37.23 | sag_ich_nicht | only bit more than a half |
| 10:37.27 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I mean, switch MH first, then OH |
| 10:37.36 | vhaarr | mitch0: maybe |
| 10:37.37 | pakoz2 | hmm not ace related, but i got ssc trash str/stam/crit neck piece today ./dance |
| 10:37.42 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: er, oops, wonder how i was reading that |
| 10:37.42 | sag_ich_nicht | these are 4 320 disks, in a RAID 0+1 |
| 10:37.55 | mitch0 | I just keep fogetting how to do a sorted traversal over a list, but I'll dig it out |
| 10:38.06 | mitch0 | ipairs broke it :) |
| 10:38.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i wouldn't trust a single disk with my data anymore >_> |
| 10:38.23 | pakoz2 | so i googled "traversal" |
| 10:38.30 | pakoz2 | ... directory traversal is to exploit insufficient security validation /.. |
| 10:38.33 | Mikk | i run an svn repo on $spouse's computer, where i commit all important stuff =) |
| 10:38.36 | pakoz2 | ./feeldumb |
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| 10:39.37 | pakoz2 | mikk, can you try to explain why game would load faster without embeded libs? |
| 10:39.50 | Mikk | certainly |
| 10:39.52 | ThePug[zZz] | has anyone noticed with grid - the healer layout where you have it sorted by tanks healers and dps it you can't tell it to make a druid a tank or not? |
| 10:39.58 | evl_ | amount of files having to be read |
| 10:40.07 | evl_ | ace lib loaded 25 times or so < 1 |
| 10:40.15 | Mikk | the thing is, most addons use the same libraries over and over. so when wow loads up, it ends up loading dozens of copies of the same library |
| 10:40.27 | Mikk | it doesn't impact memory consumption since it just gets overwritten |
| 10:40.34 | Mikk | but it means a lot more file access and parsing |
| 10:40.38 | Mikk | so with just ONE single copy to be loaded |
| 10:40.39 | Mikk | it's faster |
| 10:40.46 | pakoz2 | how does it now know to look for ace libs in this standalone folder? |
| 10:40.50 | ThePug[zZz] | Mikk, how do you prevent it from doing that? |
| 10:41.09 | Mikk | pakoz2: you sure you want the gory programming details? :> |
| 10:41.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk wasn't there a wiki entry on all this? :P |
| 10:41.16 | Mikk | there is |
| 10:41.17 | pakoz2 | i do <3 |
| 10:41.34 | pakoz2 | i was about to say, looks like its time for a .html version of this |
| 10:41.40 | Mikk | idd |
| 10:41.41 | pakoz2 | beat to the punch |
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| 10:42.04 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater for one |
| 10:43.47 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons |
| 10:43.50 | Mikk | wow, that was NOT obvious |
| 10:44.00 | Monolit | can anyone here help me with an issue with bartender page swapping? |
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| 10:44.59 | Mikk | pakoz2: basically, for Ace2 proper, the apps just go looking for a global object named "AceLibrary". it doesn't matter how this object got created -- from a file within the addon itself (embedded library), or from some other file (library installed as a standalone addon) |
| 10:45.22 | Mikk | then we get into Load-on-Demand territory and it gets a little bit hairer, as AceLibrary has to go scanning .toc files for the libraries to load |
| 10:45.30 | Mikk | but tbh don't worry too much, it just works :> |
| 10:45.39 | pakoz2 | hehe |
| 10:46.11 | pakoz2 | so the mods can see all the libs via .tocs and the addons name is "!!!" so its first on the list maybe? |
| 10:47.12 | Mikk | nah !!!StandaloneLibraries isn't a real addon |
| 10:47.22 | Mikk | it's just a package file that WAU takes a look in and unpacks stuff from |
| 10:47.27 | pakoz2 | understood :) |
| 10:47.38 | mitch0 | vhaarr: still around? |
| 10:47.38 | Mikk | you should be seeing "Ace2", "DewdropLib" etc etc in your addons directory now |
| 10:47.47 | Mikk | that's the libs installed as regular addons |
| 10:47.48 | pakoz2 | http://parebdistro.com/rawr/pics/UI.JPG |
| 10:47.51 | pakoz2 | my ui~ |
| 10:48.14 | pakoz2 | ya |
| 10:48.20 | pakoz2 | lots of libs in the addon root |
| 10:48.39 | Mikk | good, stuff's working then =) |
| 10:48.52 | pakoz2 | it kinda ugly-fied my addon folder tho ;x |
| 10:49.03 | Mikk | yeah, unfortunately |
| 10:49.04 | Mikk | you can't choose tho |
| 10:49.08 | Mikk | slow or ugly |
| 10:49.09 | Mikk | pick one |
| 10:49.10 | pakoz2 | o well- wau makes it so simple |
| 10:49.20 | Mikk | now run my batch file |
| 10:49.24 | Mikk | in the addons folder |
| 10:49.24 | pakoz2 | again? |
| 10:49.28 | Mikk | nono |
| 10:49.32 | Mikk | once is enough =) |
| 10:49.39 | Mikk | you should see quite a speedup now |
| 10:49.43 | pakoz2 | orly? |
| 10:49.49 | Mikk | actually, you can run it again just to make sure you ran WAU right |
| 10:49.53 | Mikk | and didn't end up reinstalling externals |
| 10:50.00 | pakoz2 | it didnt |
| 10:50.04 | pakoz2 | cuz the .bat was instant |
| 10:50.08 | pakoz2 | on round 2 |
| 10:50.08 | Mikk | k |
| 10:50.12 | Mikk | good |
| 10:50.18 | sag_ich_nicht | http://atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=952 kek |
| 10:50.20 | Mikk | it really should load faster now |
| 10:50.20 | pakoz2 | alrighty, lets test it out |
| 10:50.27 | Mikk | like i said, runspeed isn't affected at all |
| 10:50.28 | Mikk | just load speed |
| 10:51.04 | pakoz2 | cant say i see much of a difference hehe |
| 10:51.14 | pakoz2 | Gooberrawr is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an Intel Pentium III at 2.40 GHz with 1211/2047MB (59.16%) RAM free. |
| 10:51.14 | pakoz2 | It has an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1920x1080x32bpp 60Hz, Realtek HD Audio output, and 160.4 GB of 605.49 GB available on 2 drive(s). |
| 10:51.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 868/2048MB (42.38%) RAM free. |
| 10:51.26 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, Sound Blaster Audigy, and 424.1 GB of 596.17 GB available on 1 drive(s). |
| 10:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | >:P |
| 10:51.46 | Mikk | pakoz2: well, try the old copy of your addons against your new copy |
| 10:52.02 | pakoz2 | hehe |
| 10:52.03 | Mikk | there should be a 2-3 time speedup the first wow start after reboot |
| 10:52.10 | sag_ich_nicht | funny thing is |
| 10:52.11 | pakoz2 | O.o im gonna be honest |
| 10:52.23 | pakoz2 | for 2-3 seconds i'm not sure its gonna matter hehe |
| 10:52.30 | pakoz2 | but i like being more efficient either way |
| 10:52.33 | sag_ich_nicht | i have so many addons that i think loading WoW takes about 30 seconds |
| 10:52.35 | Mikk | you don't have enough addons installed then :> |
| 10:52.39 | sag_ich_nicht | without addons it's instant |
| 10:52.39 | pakoz2 | hah |
| 10:52.50 | Mikk | running embedded for me means a full minute wait |
| 10:52.58 | pakoz2 | wtf |
| 10:53.02 | pakoz2 | how many mods you use? |
| 10:53.12 | Mikk | good question |
| 10:53.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: if it means that for you, it would probably mean 2-4 minutes for me >:) |
| 10:53.57 | Mikk | i have 210 dirs in my addons folder |
| 10:54.01 | Mikk | but a lot of that is going to be libs ofc |
| 10:54.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i have 377. |
| 10:54.17 | sag_ich_nicht | or even more |
| 10:54.56 | Gngsk | anyone here use comfortable insoles? |
| 10:55.04 | Mikk | hha |
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| 10:55.11 | pakoz2 | bleh annoying |
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| 10:56.50 | pakoz2 | http://parebdistro.com/rawr/pics/uilist.JPG |
| 10:57.03 | pakoz2 | http://parebdistro.com/rawr/pics/UI.JPG |
| 10:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | not a lot |
| 10:57.20 | pakoz2 | thats with the 99999 libs |
| 10:57.28 | sag_ich_nicht | which reminds me i was going to install banzai |
| 10:58.31 | Mikk | huhu |
| 10:58.32 | Mikk | DBM |
| 10:58.34 | Mikk | pwnd |
| 10:58.39 | pakoz2 | if you were to group it it'd just be Xperl PerfectRaid DBM Bongos Itemrack Squeenix everything else is very minor |
| 10:58.46 | pakoz2 | i tried bigwigs, was so bad ;x |
| 10:58.51 | pakoz2 | ./hide from author lol |
| 10:59.05 | Mikk | no, really, shoot, i want to hear it |
| 10:59.14 | mitch0 | vhaar: equipping the items in mh -> oh order solves the problem, but to do that correctly, the set should be { {slot, item}, ...} not [slot] = item so that one could use ipairs for an "ordered" iteration |
| 10:59.15 | Mikk | what's your major beef with bigwigs? |
| 10:59.33 | pakoz2 | i installed it, went against attunemen |
| 10:59.33 | mitch0 | vhaar: right now I used a for slot=1,#slots do ... but that's kinda ugly |
| 10:59.36 | pakoz2 | no curse bar timer |
| 10:59.43 | pakoz2 | no respawn timers were showing |
| 10:59.48 | pakoz2 | maiden repent timer wasnt there |
| 10:59.53 | ThePug[zZz] | LittleWigs is bad, but Bigwigs? I like bigwigs |
| 11:00.01 | pakoz2 | basically the bars were all mia lol |
| 11:00.12 | pakoz2 | didnt have timers for anything |
| 11:00.18 | Mikk | sounds like a botched install then :S |
| 11:00.20 | pakoz2 | i wanted to go to bigwigs cause of WAU |
| 11:00.27 | pakoz2 | it was a WAU install ;x |
| 11:00.40 | sag_ich_nicht | sounds less like a botched install |
| 11:00.42 | pakoz2 | im assuming you make big wigs ;x |
| 11:00.45 | Mikk | no |
| 11:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | but more like a install without any of the modules |
| 11:00.49 | pakoz2 | ah |
| 11:00.54 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: yaeh |
| 11:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | with you just installing the core but not the modules |
| 11:01.07 | pakoz2 | i got big blue/green text saying curse on tank |
| 11:01.18 | pakoz2 | but not a timer on how long |
| 11:01.27 | pakoz2 | i wanted to try on hydross for marks and stuff |
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| 11:01.40 | sag_ich_nicht | let's see if nvidias stupid driver decided to work again or if i'll have to reboot |
| 11:01.43 | pakoz2 | i wanted to dump dbm cuz lurker was f'n up |
| 11:01.59 | pakoz2 | had timers for emerge and submerge up at same time like 5 fights in a row |
| 11:02.19 | Mikk | they must have screwed up the rip from bigwigs then |
| 11:02.23 | pakoz2 | ok, so give bigwigs another shot then? |
| 11:02.37 | Mikk | cause a lot of dbm is ripped from bigwigs :> |
| 11:02.47 | pakoz2 | ;/ |
| 11:03.30 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42398 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 11:03.30 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:03.30 | CIA-22 | - Spell: koKR Update |
| 11:03.36 | mitch0 | or it would be possible to do some ugly magic within the current for loop to fix the order there just as a special case for MH+OH |
| 11:03.48 | pakoz2 | ok so i have everything checked that has "BIGwigs" |
| 11:03.53 | Mikk | sounds about right |
| 11:03.55 | vhaarr | don't check it all |
| 11:03.59 | pakoz2 | eh? |
| 11:04.03 | Mikk | buh? |
| 11:04.11 | mitch0 | vhaarr: yeah, I know. that was just a test |
| 11:04.21 | vhaarr | mitch0: that was for pakoz2 |
| 11:04.25 | mitch0 | oh |
| 11:04.27 | mitch0 | :) |
| 11:04.29 | pakoz2 | eh? |
| 11:04.35 | mitch0 | well, it applies to me, too :) |
| 11:04.45 | vhaarr | pakoz2: you don't need healbotassist, loathebtactical, nefcount, razuviousassistant, tabletbars, thaddiusarrows, zombiefood, etc |
| 11:04.51 | vhaarr | pakoz2: just tick "BigWigs" |
| 11:04.58 | mitch0 | you are like those astrologists :) |
| 11:05.08 | pakoz2 | whats tablet bars |
| 11:05.12 | pakoz2 | sounds important |
| 11:05.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i like zombiefood >:) |
| 11:05.17 | vhaarr | it's not |
| 11:05.18 | pakoz2 | alt display |
| 11:05.20 | pakoz2 | ok then |
| 11:05.36 | vhaarr | for normal raiding, you only need "BigWigs", the rest are additional packages |
| 11:05.39 | vhaarr | and most of them are old |
| 11:05.41 | vhaarr | and unmaintained |
| 11:05.42 | pakoz2 | notifies the raid when someone is dazed, rofl |
| 11:05.45 | vhaarr | and will probably give you errors |
| 11:05.59 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr I have them all installed, no errors :P |
| 11:06.07 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: okay, that's nice then :P |
| 11:06.35 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't really matter since they're all LoD :P |
| 11:06.44 | Mikk | well, wow starts slower etc |
| 11:06.46 | pakoz2 | i dont see a "sub-addon" for SSC/KZ/TK/BT |
| 11:07.03 | nevcairiel | those are included in BigWigs |
| 11:07.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:06] <+Mikk> well, wow starts slower etc <--cry more :O |
| 11:07.10 | nevcairiel | only the old azeroth legacy stuff is extra |
| 11:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 11:07.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll make a screenshot of my addon folder |
| 11:07.58 | pakoz2 | anyone here use NRT |
| 11:08.14 | pakoz2 | raid attendance addon |
| 11:08.31 | vhaarr | pakoz2: I make it, is that good enough? |
| 11:08.43 | pakoz2 | check your email <3 |
| 11:09.10 | pakoz2 | your gmail-email |
| 11:09.12 | vhaarr | todd? |
| 11:09.15 | pakoz2 | yes~ |
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| 11:09.48 | Mikk | pakoz2: but yeah you're right, bigwigs doesn't have respawn timers for kara |
| 11:10.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i use NECB for that :O |
| 11:10.03 | pakoz2 | i downloaded something called incubator |
| 11:10.06 | pakoz2 | but it was awful |
| 11:10.15 | pakoz2 | cuz like 9000 bars |
| 11:10.19 | pakoz2 | were on my screen lol |
| 11:10.29 | vhaarr | pakoz2: /script NRT:TakeAttendance() |
| 11:10.36 | pakoz2 | hot |
| 11:10.42 | pakoz2 | and to view it? |
| 11:10.58 | pakoz2 | sry if i'm being bitchy - can i title it too? |
| 11:11.18 | pakoz2 | so where-ever it saves it i can pull it up by the title |
| 11:11.31 | vhaarr | use the tooltip |
| 11:11.40 | vhaarr | but no, you can't rename it yet |
| 11:11.52 | pakoz2 | thats cool, i can do that manually |
| 11:12.06 | pakoz2 | i cant log into wow right now to test it |
| 11:12.12 | pakoz2 | i'm talking to ya'll via JAWS ;x |
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| 11:12.21 | pakoz2 | contacts had to come out |
| 11:12.40 | pakoz2 | thx much tho |
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| 11:15.34 | Ominous | wow works fine on linux dosent it |
| 11:15.42 | Moltarain | yes |
| 11:15.48 | Ominous | gdgd |
| 11:15.51 | Moltarain | flawless :P |
| 11:17.14 | pakoz2 | vharr im just sifting through the mod |
| 11:17.23 | pakoz2 | it collects names via whispers? |
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| 11:25.41 | pakoz2 | Oooooh i see |
| 11:25.44 | pakoz2 | awesome mod, thx much |
| 11:26.23 | Ominous | woot got ssh access to my server now |
| 11:26.25 | Gagorian | Anyone playing a resto druid available for a bit of testing on DrDamage? |
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| 11:27.51 | sylvanaar | whats up folks¿ |
| 11:27.58 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 11:28.18 | vhaarr | sylvanaar IRC'ing from some far distant sun-filled country? |
| 11:28.25 | *** part/#wowace sun\ (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-109-72.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:28.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:28.43 | sylvanaar | yeah, its Sunday and everything is closed |
| 11:29.05 | sylvanaar | wtb an english keyboard |
| 11:31.43 | Ominous | rofl |
| 11:32.22 | pakoz2 | anyone here use DebuffFilter? |
| 11:32.32 | Gngsk | I do |
| 11:32.39 | pakoz2 | good stuff? |
| 11:32.43 | Gngsk | works well |
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| 11:33.42 | pakoz2 | kk ill try it out |
| 11:34.13 | Ominous | Mikk, are you about? |
| 11:34.16 | Punkie` | pakoz2: http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12476 may be a worthwhile read for you on that subject |
| 11:35.08 | Mikk | Ominous: yes |
| 11:35.33 | Mikk | create a directory to hold your svn repos. let's call it "svn" |
| 11:35.51 | Mikk | inside that directory, create a new directory that is to be your repo. let's call it "root" |
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| 11:36.24 | Mikk | inside that directory, run "svnadmin create" |
| 11:36.28 | Mikk | go back to the "svn" directory |
| 11:36.48 | Mikk | run "svnserve -d --foreground -r ." |
| 11:36.55 | Mikk | tadaa, you had an svn server up and running |
| 11:37.14 | Ominous | its the compiling part i need help with as i hve never done it before and svn isnt on the server |
| 11:37.24 | Mikk | :< |
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| 11:38.00 | Mikk | seriously, just PM me your details and i'll set it up for you >.< |
| 11:38.08 | Fisker- | your server sucks Ominous and you should feel bad? |
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| 11:38.54 | syeren | Right, so in the latest revision of Autobar, someone changed it so it started using up 2 more MB of memory? |
| 11:38.57 | syeren | Pretty good change. |
| 11:39.05 | Punkie` | Ominous: Why do you have like, candybar esque code in ClassTimer, instead of just using Candybar itself? |
| 11:39.22 | Mikk | syeren: could be that it's being blamed for embedded libs usage. "A" is pretty early in the alphabet |
| 11:39.22 | Ominous | because of the only icons part |
| 11:39.56 | Punkie` | Ominous: huh? |
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| 11:40.08 | syeren | Oki, I use extrernals though. |
| 11:43.03 | mitch0 | vhaarr: could you take a look at this: http://ace.pastey.net/70138 |
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| 11:43.21 | vhaarr | mitch0: later |
| 11:43.27 | mitch0 | vhaarr: basically, I forced processing the MainHand first, then skip it during the standard iteration |
| 11:43.35 | mitch0 | ok |
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| 11:47.25 | Ominous | ? |
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| 11:47.42 | Fisker- | your ram has been upgraded |
| 11:47.42 | Fisker- | hurr |
| 11:49.01 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r42399 10pDebuffList/pDebuffList.toc: pDebuffList: Hmm, embeds.xml mysteriously fell out of the toc |
| 11:51.44 | Gagorian | If anyone's interested I just wrote a small script to check which translations in deDE/frFR are the same for different English terms and thus causing problems with babble reverse translation |
| 11:51.47 | Gagorian | http://ace.pastey.net/70140 |
| 11:51.52 | Gagorian | There's the entries |
| 11:52.20 | Gagorian | (the table keys) |
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| 12:01.05 | Laric | cryect bug in recount or parserlib... http://ace.pastey.net/70141 |
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| 12:01.51 | art3mis | hrm odd |
| 12:02.08 | art3mis | sabayon seems to be the grooviest of the linux distros right now |
| 12:02.21 | art3mis | cept for some reason they cant make it install grub properly |
| 12:03.11 | art3mis | debian/gentoo based btw |
| 12:03.33 | nevcairiel | i stick to plain gentoo, thx :P |
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| 12:04.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 12:04.31 | art3mis | only major difference between the two is gaming support |
| 12:04.37 | nevcairiel | i dont need that |
| 12:04.39 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:05.08 | art3mis | me neither really, its more out of moot curiosity if anything |
| 12:05.40 | art3mis | was playing with desktopBSD and 6.2 as well |
| 12:06.20 | Ominous | linux first impressions seem great |
| 12:06.36 | nevcairiel | i only use linux for servers, and for fun on my laptop |
| 12:06.54 | nevcairiel | i need stupid windows, since i work as a developer for windows software :( |
| 12:07.05 | art3mis | boo stupid windows |
| 12:07.29 | art3mis | if ya get bored check out sabyon though |
| 12:07.37 | art3mis | its a live cd as well so no install worries |
| 12:07.52 | Ominous | yea its on my laptop for fun atm, |
| 12:07.59 | art3mis | it actually deteced and installed drivers for my x1900 series raedon |
| 12:08.08 | Ominous | just finished installing |
| 12:08.10 | art3mis | that aprt surprised me |
| 12:08.15 | art3mis | saby? |
| 12:08.22 | Ominous | my wireless is working fine out of box which is great |
| 12:09.03 | art3mis | i think i may have to disable my sata drive to install this damned thing |
| 12:09.20 | art3mis | im starting to HATE the sata emulation shit they have in most installers |
| 12:09.35 | art3mis | my ide drive is my first drive in the chain for a reason |
| 12:11.11 | art3mis | brb |
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| 12:16.09 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r42400 10LittleWigs/ (Auchindoun/Syth.lua TempestKeep/Zereketh.lua): LittleWigs: Update translation for zhTW. |
| 12:17.00 | Mellow_ | hm, is sabayon a binary based gentoo dist? |
| 12:17.36 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r42401 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: BigWigs: Update zhTW trigger for Doomwalker.lua |
| 12:18.03 | Ominous | does wau2 work on linux? |
| 12:18.13 | Moltarain | nja, its still source id say. but the install is in binary. thus you get a full system. with all its junk... |
| 12:18.27 | nevcairiel | Ominous: its java, so yes, it does |
| 12:18.40 | Mellow_ | does it worth to install it? |
| 12:18.51 | Mellow_ | im using gentoo atm |
| 12:18.54 | nevcairiel | thats what i love about gentoo, i install it, and no junk whatsoever :) |
| 12:19.16 | Mellow_ | :D |
| 12:19.22 | Mellow_ | so the answer is no |
| 12:20.48 | Mellow_ | and do you use gentoo on your desktop? |
| 12:21.04 | Ominous | which java does wau2 need |
| 12:21.11 | nevcairiel | only for fun and testing on my laptop |
| 12:21.53 | nevcairiel | mainly server |
| 12:21.53 | Mikk | Ominous: um, i thought you used windows? |
| 12:21.53 | nevcairiel | Ominous: dunno whats required, just get the newest version :P |
| 12:21.53 | Ominous | Mikk: just installed linux on laptop |
| 12:21.53 | Ominous | on windows atm |
| 12:22.03 | Ominous | phears? |
| 12:22.17 | Mellow_ | hm, i thought you play wow from gentoo :o) |
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| 12:27.05 | wereHamster | what's a *.jnlp file? |
| 12:27.21 | nevcairiel | java web launcer something |
| 12:27.48 | Thrae | #api UnitDebuff |
| 12:27.48 | ThraeBot | Thrae: name, rank, texture, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft = UnitDebuff(unitID, debuffIndex [, removable]); |
| 12:27.52 | Thrae | Uber. |
| 12:27.57 | wereHamster | so I not only need java, but java support in my web browser :( |
| 12:28.06 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 12:28.23 | nevcairiel | the web launch thing can be called as an executable as well |
| 12:28.27 | nevcairiel | at least for me |
| 12:31.18 | wereHamster | oh.. *.jnlp is a XML file |
| 12:32.49 | ccKep | hmhmhm... is it possible to divide a violation window into different columns? |
| 12:35.22 | vhaarr | Thrae: woot! that rocks |
| 12:35.25 | vhaarr | Thrae: thanks |
| 12:35.41 | Thrae | vhaarr: Thank foxlit, it's his code ;) |
| 12:36.36 | mitch0 | thrae: does it get data from wowwiki? |
| 12:36.50 | Thrae | mitch0: Yep |
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| 12:41.38 | wereHamster | no wau2 for me.. :( * javaws is not available for sun-jdk-1.6 on x86_64 |
| 12:42.04 | Tornhoof | any paladin around? |
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| 12:44.57 | [dRaCo] | http://ace.pastey.net/70144 <-- weird pitbull/quixote/fubar_questfu bug |
| 12:45.26 | Mellow_ | Stephmw: really, with wine? |
| 12:45.42 | Stephmw | Mellow_: yup, staight from the repo, no patches |
| 12:45.49 | Stephmw | Mellow_: but I do have to run it in OpenGL |
| 12:45.51 | Mellow_ | and how is the perf? |
| 12:46.04 | Mellow_ | you feel almost the same like in windows? |
| 12:47.01 | wereHamster | just recently sound has been fixed in wine, that was the last major inconvenience when running WoW under wine |
| 12:47.17 | Stephmw | Mellow_: in some situations I get better fps |
| 12:47.27 | Stephmw | wereHamster: Ooo, now that's interesting |
| 12:47.33 | Mellow_ | because now i have to use windows to playwow |
| 12:47.56 | vhaarr | yeah sound was fixed in the last wine release |
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| 12:48.07 | Mellow_ | and i know wow working under linux, but when i tried i got very very slow perf |
| 12:48.10 | vhaarr | it worked before as well, but you had to tweak it |
| 12:48.27 | krka | anyone here that have used astrolabe? |
| 12:48.28 | vhaarr | Mellow_: you probably just have to add the registry setting |
| 12:48.39 | vhaarr | wowwiki.com/Linux has more info, I think |
| 12:48.41 | wereHamster | there's a cpuple of minor things and of course teh bug that Blizzards refuses to fix, but none of those affect gameplay or performance |
| 12:48.41 | Mellow_ | well, im not a wine tweaker :) |
| 12:48.52 | Mellow_ | cool thx, i will take a look |
| 12:49.30 | Mellow_ | and all the addonsworking under wine? |
| 12:50.05 | wereHamster | addons are OS independent |
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| 12:50.15 | wereHamster | just like they run on both Windows and Mac |
| 12:50.28 | Mellow_ | i havent played on mac yet :) |
| 12:50.46 | wereHamster | me neither |
| 12:50.51 | Neebler | http://wowui.incgamers.com/playersui/largeshot.php?type=&id=1204 |
| 12:50.59 | Neebler | nifty screenshot |
| 12:51.11 | Mellow_ | i have a mac, but when i installed diablo2 on mac, hm, much more difference |
| 12:51.15 | Mellow_ | so i didnt tried wow |
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| 12:53.39 | Hjalte | [dRaCo], i just got the same error |
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| 12:58.12 | CIA-22 | 03hati * r42402 10RangeRecolor/Locale.frFR.lua: RangeRecolor: fr locale fix |
| 13:03.14 | Ominous | where do you get files to install wow on linux? |
| 13:03.33 | Gagorian | Anyone playing a resto druid available for a bit of testing on DrDamage? |
| 13:03.58 | tengfred | i can help you, i was the one reporting the bug :-) |
| 13:04.13 | Mikk | Ominous: google |
| 13:05.49 | Gagorian | tengfred: Oh, alright. Let's take it to PM then |
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| 13:10.40 | wereHamster | Ominous, your favourite linux distro homepage and the WoW CDs |
| 13:11.08 | Birdemani | quick question on tattle/gladiator - if I am in the US, is there any way to make sure the EU files dont download. or can I just delete them |
| 13:14.51 | krka | Ominous: ubuntu + apt-get install wine + nvidia drivers |
| 13:15.02 | krka | that is basically it |
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| 13:17.11 | Method|Shive | morning |
| 13:17.13 | Method|Shive | ;p |
| 13:18.06 | Gagorian | tengfred: ping |
| 13:19.23 | tengfred | Gagorian: you dont seem to get my PMs |
| 13:20.44 | Gagorian | Indeed. You're probably not identified to the server and can't send em |
| 13:21.02 | Gagorian | Type /nickserv help |
| 13:21.18 | Gagorian | And register your name |
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| 13:27.05 | Mikk | so, if i've designated a frame as movable |
| 13:27.12 | Mikk | and i'm getting dragstart/stop events for it |
| 13:27.16 | Mikk | but it's not actually visibly moving |
| 13:27.22 | Mikk | did i pin it to the wrong thing or something? |
| 13:30.23 | Method|Shive | anyone getting errors with newest rev of Recount? :| |
| 13:31.51 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42403 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Core: Tweak. |
| 13:32.10 | Mikk | vhaarr: for the record, your commit notes suck :P |
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| 13:36.20 | Wobin | aw |
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| 13:36.24 | Saroz | hrrrm, good stuff happened during the night, after SVN update my memory usage dropped with 2 MiB, ftw |
| 13:36.28 | Wobin | we can't do barrel rolls on flying mounts? |
| 13:36.33 | Wobin | feh |
| 13:36.45 | Mikk | we could |
| 13:36.56 | Mikk | we could do /console pitchlimit 360 |
| 13:37.00 | Mikk | but they nerfed it =( |
| 13:37.01 | JoshBorke | it'll be back |
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| 13:41.44 | vhaarr | Mikk: I'm not the worst one! |
| 13:43.43 | Ominous | if i just get the wau2 splash screen but not program what am i missing |
| 13:46.49 | Hjalte | Ominous, you need to use the latest java for it to work. I had, at least. |
| 13:47.42 | Chompers | is there any decent shaman/totem addons avalible? |
| 13:48.04 | Birdemani | gotwood |
| 13:49.29 | dodgizzla | Chompers: Yata |
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| 13:50.47 | Method|Shive | :/ gif working recount with syncing |
| 13:50.55 | Method|Shive | qq |
| 13:51.07 | ccKep | Chompers: I'm using gotwood, quite happy with it =) |
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| 14:00.12 | yasuo | hi |
| 14:00.56 | yasuo | since i installed BC/updated trainerfu, trainerfu does not recognise my skills and show every skill green eve if i pocess em already |
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| 14:08.04 | Hjalte | Can anyone recommend me a good, steady-working media player (doesnt have to play video) with some library functions? |
| 14:08.25 | JoshBorke | wind0w$ media player |
| 14:08.33 | Hjalte | Nah. Not that :p |
| 14:08.48 | yasuo | media player classic / mpc |
| 14:08.59 | yasuo | its a wmp6 clone |
| 14:09.13 | Hjalte | media player classic doesnt offer library functions, does it? |
| 14:09.15 | yasuo | included in the cccp-project.net |
| 14:09.20 | yasuo | erm dunno |
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| 14:10.37 | Mikk | no |
| 14:10.44 | Mikk | Hjalte: winamp :> |
| 14:10.59 | Hjalte | Mikk, winamp began acting very weird, wouldnt play any music at all. |
| 14:11.05 | Hjalte | That's why i am looking for a new one :) |
| 14:11.11 | yasuo | im looking for a questlog in split-up style |
| 14:11.13 | |Kev| | isn't fubar quite well thought of? |
| 14:11.19 | yasuo | uber quest reborn does not work with BC? |
| 14:11.22 | Mikk | |Kev|: it is |
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| 14:14.19 | mikma | [Ammoo]: moo? |
| 14:14.24 | hypetech | moooo |
| 14:16.07 | yasuo | O_o |
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| 14:23.46 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42404 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Fixes a nil variable |
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| 14:28.00 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 14:28.03 | Method|Shive | yay! |
| 14:28.13 | Gnarfoz | off to my first real kara raid! wish me luck! or items. or both. :D |
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| 14:29.26 | Stephmw | low repair bills |
| 14:30.31 | Iceroth | can anyone remember the url of the iTard apple phone poster? iirc someone linked it here |
| 14:31.58 | Gnarfoz | Stephmw: rogue, I hope I'm not stupid enough to get any repair bill ":D |
| 14:32.45 | Stephmw | Gnarfoz: let us know how it goes :) |
| 14:32.50 | Gnarfoz | I will ^^ |
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| 14:43.54 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42405 10ItemValue_DrDamage/Class_DrDamageSet.lua: |
| 14:43.54 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 14:43.54 | CIA-22 | - Unclean fix for DrDamage update |
| 14:44.24 | Gagorian | Hmmm, what's this? :P |
| 14:44.45 | Gnarfoz | hypetech: heh |
| 14:45.11 | jme | Gnarfoz: got my first epic ever last night in kara, second time in there |
| 14:45.20 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 14:45.32 | Gnarfoz | whatever I get, it certainly won't be my first epic ever ^^ |
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| 14:46.18 | jme | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28509 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28581 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29281 |
| 14:46.22 | kaiden^ | you know you are on a roll when you get 3 epic world drops in the same day :) |
| 14:46.24 | hypetech | 35 agi 42 ap leather gloves on first kara boss :) |
| 14:46.29 | jme | kaiden^: wow |
| 14:47.03 | Azurewrath | first epic ever.. mhm..guess that was the Brightwood Staff for me. Two years ago or something :) |
| 14:47.08 | kaiden^ | i was leveling my pally the other day and i got bow of seering arrows in badlands off a wolf, went to dustwallow about 4 hours later and was doing the dragon quests there and got a gauntlets of holy might or whatever they are called the leather ones |
| 14:47.20 | hypetech | I think my first epic was Robes of Insight :) |
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| 14:47.28 | kaiden^ | did a zf run with my 70 druid running me through and that purple mail bp dropped |
| 14:47.31 | jme | heh, i wasn't ever 60 and raiding pre-BC... never made it above 20 before i rolled my belf |
| 14:47.32 | kaiden^ | all within a 6 hour period |
| 14:47.36 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 14:47.59 | kaiden^ | my first epic were those plate shoulders, dropped of a deadwood avenger |
| 14:48.20 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 14:48.29 | Gnarfoz | I will of course get enough rep to get the honored version of the signet |
| 14:48.48 | Gnarfoz | worgen claw necklace would be nice, wouldn't have to spend BoJ's on the other one then |
| 14:48.54 | Gnarfoz | (which is, basically, the same item) |
| 14:49.00 | jme | it took me a clear up through and including curator twice |
| 14:49.05 | jme | before i was honored |
| 14:49.54 | hypetech | 5k from exalted with violet eye -.- |
| 14:50.46 | kaiden^ | i quit raiding a while ago |
| 14:50.50 | jme | i'll finally have my veteran's chain bracers tonight... |
| 14:50.57 | kaiden^ | never got to experience that stuff |
| 14:51.18 | Ominous | hmmm i wau2 wont start after splash screen even with gava 6.1 installed |
| 14:52.01 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42406 10oRA2/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:52.01 | CIA-22 | oRA2: |
| 14:52.01 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.01 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.01 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.28 | jme | some 70 gnome rogue jumped me while i was farming leather in nagrand last night, so i killed him... true story. |
| 14:52.56 | jme | BM gives me this nice iwin button. |
| 14:53.39 | Wobin | BigRedKitty? |
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| 14:55.13 | kaiden^ | you shouldn't kill gnomes |
| 14:55.16 | hypetech | anybody else have serious issues with mote of earth dropping on the elemental plateau? i swear I can go around and get 5 of each primal before I see a mote of earth |
| 14:55.17 | nivyan | hey all |
| 14:55.18 | kaiden^ | you should make them your sex slaves |
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| 14:55.36 | nivyan | can someone help me with Serenity? I dont know how to open menu/options or even communicate with the addon |
| 14:55.39 | kaiden^ | hypetech, that's because it's so common through mining i think |
| 14:55.50 | kaiden^ | every miner and their mother has at least 40-50 primal earths |
| 14:56.01 | kaiden^ | i have 3 miners each have about 60-70 primal earths :/ |
| 14:56.03 | Mikk | and they're dirt cheap on the AH |
| 14:56.11 | Mikk | dirt.. earth.. get it |
| 14:56.15 | Wobin | My mother has 60 primals |
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| 14:56.20 | Wobin | True story |
| 14:56.38 | hypetech | well then they should take out the earth elementals and put in the ones that drop mana so I don't have to fly all the way to netherstorm -.- |
| 14:56.39 | nivyan | can someone help me with Serenity? I dont know how to open menu/options or even communicate with the addon |
| 14:56.52 | kaiden^ | why must they taunt me so, these nice headphones for the iPhone look so comfy but they are pre-order only, wont be available for a while |
| 14:57.20 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42407 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Bugfix? |
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| 15:00.13 | nivyan | can someone help me with Serenity? I dont know how to open menu/options or even communicate with the addon |
| 15:00.45 | Mikk | nivyan: obviously there is not anyone here that can help you right now. this is most likely because the ones that ARE here don't use serenity |
| 15:01.06 | Mikk | my guess would be to "/serenity" in the chatbox |
| 15:01.08 | Moltarain | [Royal Tanzanite] anyone know how those works (unique-equipped) i have one in my moncloth belt. is it possible to have one more in another peace of gear? or are they unique so i can only wear one a a time? |
| 15:01.10 | Mikk | but that's just a guess |
| 15:01.10 | nivyan | prolly... but its killing me, love this adddon |
| 15:01.28 | Mikk | Moltarain: You can only WEAR one at a time yes |
| 15:01.31 | nivyan | Mikk> tried that, also reading through Serenity.lua |
| 15:01.34 | Mikk | Moltarain: You can have others in gear that you're not using atm |
| 15:02.06 | Mikk | nivyan: it's quite possible that it's erroring out but it's being hidden from you. try disabling hiding script errors in the WoW interface options |
| 15:03.16 | Moltarain | ok |
| 15:03.31 | nivyan | Mikk: didn't help sadly :< |
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| 15:04.02 | Moltarain | have 3 in bags so. to bad one cant use tham all at once |
| 15:04.29 | Wobin | yes well, that's the point of 'unique' =) |
| 15:04.34 | Wobin | it tends to be... unique =) |
| 15:04.52 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42408 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Buffalo2_Dreamlayout.toc: Buffalo2_Dreamlayout: |
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| 15:06.42 | Ominous_ | please can someone say my name? |
| 15:06.48 | nivyan | my name |
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| 15:06.55 | Ominous_ | as in Ominous_ |
| 15:07.43 | Mok | [17:12] Ominous_: as in Ominous_ |
| 15:08.00 | Ominous_ | gah thanks |
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| 15:19.22 | Zurk | Random grammatical question: It has = it's or its? |
| 15:19.34 | Mikk | it's |
| 15:19.46 | Zurk | Cheers :> |
| 15:19.50 | Mikk | "its" = possessive.. "its color was yellow" |
| 15:20.19 | Zurk | Yeah, I thought that was the case. I'm writing an application and I want it to look good |
| 15:20.28 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42409 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Core: Don't register a database namespace for modules without a DB. |
| 15:23.03 | Gnarfoz | no worgen claw necklace for me :< |
| 15:23.34 | dylanm | Zurk: I don't think that's something one should abbreviate. |
| 15:24.48 | Zurk | Oh, really? English is not my native language. The sentence is 'it has been x days since..' |
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| 15:25.22 | dylanm | Hm. That's a little different. |
| 15:25.48 | Mikk | Zurk: keep it as is |
| 15:26.01 | Zurk | Unabbreviated? |
| 15:26.04 | Mikk | you shouldn't be abbreviating too much in official-type texts |
| 15:26.06 | Mikk | yes |
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| 15:26.11 | Zurk | Okay, thanks |
| 15:28.04 | dylanm | I don't like using abbreviations like "it's" because the contraction isn't really clear. People use it for "it is" and the ambiguity in tense is just a mess. |
| 15:28.27 | liquiem | Antiarc, omen's aggro sound is scary! |
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| 15:30.06 | Mikk | dylanm: though "it's been X days since" is pretty obvius =) |
| 15:30.55 | Zurk | I've left it as "it has", probably the safest option. |
| 15:31.02 | dylanm | Mikk: I'm not sure that makes it a good idea :p |
| 15:31.09 | Zurk | Thought I don't think it really matters a great deal |
| 15:31.28 | Mikk | dylanm: very true, but lingual development do not necessarily follow "good idea" guidelines =) |
| 15:32.04 | dylanm | Mikk: j00 r rite |
| 15:32.06 | dylanm | :) |
| 15:33.20 | Zurk | There are still people writing applications in the same way that they'd write on their myspace page, so yeah |
| 15:33.33 | dylanm | Indeed. |
| 15:36.35 | kaiden^ | joo r not wurvie! |
| 15:36.50 | Zurk | i r nut wurvy? |
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| 15:36.55 | kaiden^ | no! |
| 15:37.18 | kaiden^ | i went for chinese food last night and they screwed up my order and i was fussing at them about it and the lady behind the counter cracked me up |
| 15:37.23 | kaiden^ | she said yoo so viorent |
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| 15:38.03 | kaiden^ | it was beautiful, gave her a 10 dollar tip for the jolly good time and ignored the serious blunder on the order :P |
| 15:38.36 | Zurk | Did you laugh in her face? |
| 15:38.45 | kaiden^ | that would have been rude |
| 15:38.57 | kaiden^ | i held it in |
| 15:38.59 | Zurk | Yeah, but still :D |
| 15:40.16 | CIA-22 | 03pneumatus * r42410 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot_Data.lua: |
| 15:40.17 | CIA-22 | ClassLoot: |
| 15:40.17 | CIA-22 | - Added Serpentshrine Cavern loot tables |
| 15:40.17 | CIA-22 | - Added The Eye loot tables |
| 15:41.03 | Delling_Arathor | Anyone happens to have problems with Omen ? |
| 15:42.02 | kaiden^ | Delling_Arathor, you should probably state the problems you are having :) |
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| 15:44.12 | Zurk | I'm having no problems with the latest revision, so you should update to the newest version if you're not already using it |
| 15:45.25 | Delling_Arathor | Already done so. Even re-installed it |
| 15:45.26 | kaiden^ | It's good habit to update with WowAceUpdater as frequently as you can, these dev's put in so much work to the addons on a daily basis with small bug fixes here and there |
| 15:45.48 | Delling_Arathor | Always run WAU before I start WoW ^^ |
| 15:46.00 | kaiden^ | Delling_Arathor, again, explain what problem you are having and i'm sure someone can help, Antiarc's here and he makes it |
| 15:46.07 | Delling_Arathor | I keep getting this error when I target people: "Interface\AddOns\Omen\Libs\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0.lua:1295: Unknown unit token: party3pettarget" |
| 15:46.11 | kaiden^ | but dont make sudden movements near him, he's .. uhm |
| 15:46.12 | kaiden^ | he bites |
| 15:46.14 | Zurk | Yeah, I can't run WoW unless I've run WAU in the last 5 minutes. |
| 15:47.26 | durcyn | you should consult a mental health professional regarding your obsessive-compulsive disorder. |
| 15:49.44 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: ping |
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| 15:58.39 | BankZ | I wish WAU would tell me which addons where out of date |
| 15:58.49 | BankZ | without updating |
| 15:58.50 | TheKarn | BankZ, use WAU2 |
| 15:59.00 | BankZ | when did that come out? |
| 15:59.10 | Mikk | it's not "out" yet. it's beta |
| 15:59.43 | TheKarn | but has the feature you want |
| 16:00.04 | BankZ | so its going for .Net to java? |
| 16:00.10 | Mikk | yes |
| 16:00.16 | BankZ | that sucks |
| 16:00.45 | Ominous | not really it means its multi platform |
| 16:00.58 | Mikk | it means it'll work on mac and linux just fine |
| 16:00.59 | BankZ | yeah, but its java |
| 16:01.01 | BankZ | lol |
| 16:01.14 | BankZ | punish the many for the few |
| 16:01.14 | Mikk | ok |
| 16:01.15 | Mikk | lol |
| 16:01.16 | Mikk | or something |
| 16:03.16 | BankZ | wow, and it has adds |
| 16:03.26 | BankZ | *ads |
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| 16:03.59 | BankZ | how disapointing |
| 16:04.59 | BankZ | If this was .net and no ads it would be very interesting |
| 16:05.32 | Mikk | ads make it interesting |
| 16:05.36 | Mikk | without ads, we don't have wowace.com |
| 16:05.40 | Mikk | kaelten had a $1000 server bill in may |
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| 16:07.09 | BankZ | Are you guys gonna keep 1.9 around? or kill it? |
| 16:07.15 | Mikk | it's going to die |
| 16:07.21 | BankZ | damn. |
| 16:07.28 | Mikk | no ads = no support for the server |
| 16:07.48 | BankZ | hmm, I beter download the source then |
| 16:07.49 | BankZ | lol |
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| 16:08.11 | Mikk | better donate $1000 to kaelten's paypal account also |
| 16:08.12 | Mikk | schmuck |
| 16:08.21 | BankZ | naw |
| 16:08.43 | BankZ | This thing isnt really usable |
| 16:08.56 | BankZ | I know its beta and may get better |
| 16:09.15 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42411 10/branches/funkydude/: create branch folder |
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| 16:10.15 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude 07SimpleChatMods * r42412 10funkydude/: branch |
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| 16:11.00 | dylanm | Where might one download WAU2? Or should I check the svn? |
| 16:11.20 | BankZ | download link is in topic |
| 16:11.39 | BankZ | Are you guys gonna provide the source for 2.0? |
| 16:11.54 | dylanm | BankZ: Ah, didn't see that. Have it minimized to one line in Colloquy. Thanks. |
| 16:12.00 | vhaarr | BankZ: obviously |
| 16:12.00 | Mikk | kaelten may provide some of it, but not all of it |
| 16:12.07 | Mikk | to keep guys like you from nopping out the ads |
| 16:12.30 | Fisker- | we could do that without the source anyways |
| 16:12.54 | Mikk | do you want to? |
| 16:13.29 | Fisker- | no, i'm just saying it would be pointless to keep some the source closed as it is possible to remove the ads without the source |
| 16:13.31 | |Kev| | wau2 won't be open source? |
| 16:13.53 | dylanm | Hmmm jnlp. Haven't seen one of those in a while. |
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| 16:14.00 | BankZ | I could probably deal with the adds if they were smaller |
| 16:14.08 | BankZ | but the biggest problem I have is java |
| 16:14.15 | Mikk | schmucks. the whole bunch of you. |
| 16:14.19 | Mikk | go download from curse gaming |
| 16:14.49 | |Kev| | that's hardly nice |
| 16:14.51 | dylanm | BankZ: Java is fine. It isn't beautiful, but it's not like you're doing work on with WAU. It's an updating script, pretty much. |
| 16:15.02 | dylanm | er, delete the "on" |
| 16:16.04 | dylanm | Hm this isn't working. It tries to authenticate, I accept, and then it quits. |
| 16:16.20 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 16:16.30 | dylanm | At the present I just use a bash script I wrote, so no big deal :) |
| 16:16.44 | Gnarfoz | 3 bosses down, first death because of a mis-pull |
| 16:16.47 | Mikk | dylanm: latest java installed? |
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| 16:17.02 | BankZZ | damn inet |
| 16:17.11 | Gnarfoz | and on top of damage, even though I wear all blues except pants, nefarian boots (old epics, yay) and my swords :D |
| 16:17.36 | Mikk | combat sword = win |
| 16:18.06 | Mikk | for sustained pve damage that is |
| 16:18.31 | dylanm | Mikk: I keep it updated with the Mac updater. Don't really write much code in Java anymore so that's the extent of it... it's actually the recommended way on the Sun site. |
| 16:18.41 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude 07SimpleChatMods * r42413 10funkydude/ (7 files): SimpleChatMods: customized version of SCM |
| 16:18.56 | BankZZ | If you guys are gonna use Ads, you should give an option to make a donation and get a version without adds |
| 16:18.57 | Mikk | dylanm: sounds like kaelten broke something then :> |
| 16:18.58 | BankZZ | *ads |
| 16:19.29 | dylanm | Mikk: Yeah, I'm up to date. I'll check later, I guess :p |
| 16:19.41 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: indeed, exactly that's what I do ^^ also, 277 +hit helps |
| 16:20.07 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: could i interest you in a server transfer? :> |
| 16:20.30 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 16:20.37 | Mikk | too many of our rogues ghey around with multilate daggers :S |
| 16:21.44 | dylanm | Mikk: Is grabbing things with "svn up ..." still going to be kosher? |
| 16:21.44 | Mikk | sure |
| 16:21.53 | Mikk | frankly, developers aren't causing bandwidth enough to hurt us |
| 16:22.04 | BankZZ | If I am reading the WUA licese correctly, there shouldnt be a problem with me to make the .net version work when its "killed" |
| 16:22.04 | Mikk | WAU users count in the tens of thousands |
| 16:22.15 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: I heard mutilate was quite strong? except for nature/posion immune mobs, of course |
| 16:22.31 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: yer it's ok.. but combat swords is better |
| 16:22.36 | |Kev| | so what's going to happen to users of updaters other than wau? |
| 16:22.38 | Mikk | when your +hit is high enough anyway |
| 16:24.02 | Chompers | void reaver in an hour wooo |
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| 16:24.17 | Chompers | wonder what TK is like |
| 16:24.28 | Kaydeethree | the trash pulls will take longer to learn than the boss |
| 16:24.39 | Kaydeethree | and I'm not kidding |
| 16:24.40 | dylanm | |Kev|: The impression I'm getting is that they'll get people who just come to wowace.com looking for Ace addons. The percentage is probably high enough. |
| 16:24.59 | liquiem | nerf nerf nerf, dont wonder why it's so easy |
| 16:25.25 | |Kev| | dylanm: I don't understand the answer, sorry :) |
| 16:25.38 | Ominous | mikk: did you say it was .me.uk/myrepo/? |
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| 16:25.46 | Mikk | Ominous: yes |
| 16:25.51 | Mikk | Ominous: same username/pw as your ssh loging |
| 16:25.56 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: well, check four yourself: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Das+Syndikat&n=Lolah - I wonder how long it will take me to get this much +hit, but epic items |
| 16:26.16 | dylanm | |Kev|: Well, it seems as if the only way to block out other programs would be to somehow lock up svn read access, and I doubt they'll do that. |
| 16:26.37 | |Kev| | well, atm there's latest.xml |
| 16:26.46 | |Kev| | which is hope at least mau works |
| 16:27.07 | |Kev| | well, actually mau still scrapes the html, but close enough |
| 16:27.40 | |Kev| | so removing those would break it, I wonder if that's the point |
| 16:27.49 | dylanm | |Kev|: Are you the author? |
| 16:27.52 | |Kev| | I am |
| 16:27.58 | dylanm | |Kev|: I recall that he had a "K" name. |
| 16:28.06 | Trancer | hey kat |
| 16:28.09 | Trancer | you are looking for KarlThePagan |
| 16:28.14 | Trancer | poke him when he's around |
| 16:28.17 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42414 10DrDamage/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:28.17 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 16:28.17 | CIA-22 | - Talent data restructure |
| 16:28.17 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Empowered Rejuvenation effects on Lifebloom and Regrowth |
| 16:28.19 | |Kev| | am I? |
| 16:28.36 | |Kev| | and hey Lu :) |
| 16:28.59 | dylanm | |Kev|: It's always been my opinion that an updater should just update using the SVN. Less load on the server -- that's what my little script does. |
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| 16:29.20 | [dRaCo] | anyone got a arena point calc? |
| 16:29.22 | |Kev| | svn is actually /more/ load on the server than straight http gets, isn't it? |
| 16:29.31 | Srosh | yep, because of externals |
| 16:29.49 | dodgizzla | In case it has not been reported yet... ClassLoot is making WAU2 go zoink |
| 16:29.50 | dylanm | |Kev|: As in: downloading only the updated files? I don't see a downside there. |
| 16:30.05 | dodgizzla | And oRA2 does, too.. java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: oRA2 pubDate: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:21:26 +0000 |
| 16:30.28 | Trancer | dylanm: with all teh version checking having to be done? hmhmh.. :) |
| 16:30.38 | liquiem | dylanm, bandwidth and cpu time are 2 important things. |
| 16:30.55 | dylanm | liquiem: Understood. |
| 16:31.12 | dylanm | liquiem: I really don't know the details of how much load SVN processing puts on the server. |
| 16:31.21 | durcyn | dylanm: it's MORE load if you use svn externals |
| 16:31.40 | durcyn | one checkout is fine, 15 in a row is horrible |
| 16:31.42 | dylanm | durcyn: I'm not sure what you mean there... you mean embedded? |
| 16:32.07 | durcyn | embedded libs are done via svn externals, which cause an individual checkout to occur for every lib |
| 16:32.19 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: are you on EU or US, anyway? ^^ |
| 16:32.32 | dylanm | durcyn: Oh. I don't use embedded. That would be pretty awful. |
| 16:33.43 | dylanm | durcyn: I wouldn't do it if I had to pull every needed library with every addon checkout. |
| 16:33.53 | dylanm | durcyn: Am I still blowing it? :p |
| 16:39.19 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: EU |
| 16:39.23 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42415 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Fixes a sync bug if received a prefix thats not RECOUNT |
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| 16:43.40 | durcyn | dylanm: just use --ignore-externals if you're going to do that. |
| 16:43.47 | dylanm | durcyn: That is what I do. |
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| 16:45.05 | dylanm | durcyn: It's on a cron to update once a day -- I parse the svn:externals prop and make sure those are present and updated. |
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| 16:46.29 | KarlThePagan | |Kev|, I can answer any questions about wau2 - as far as i know it will not be open-source however all updater protocols are publicly discussed and you will always have access to the url's it updates with |
| 16:46.39 | KarlThePagan | it's XML/RSS |
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| 16:46.52 | |Kev| | and the ads? |
| 16:47.09 | dylanm | durcyn: I was hoping that that would be, in fact, better, but I can see how the server running a bunch of diffs and stuff (if that's what svn does) could really be worse. I try to limit the bandwidth consumption. |
| 16:47.10 | KarlThePagan | ads were required to support the wowace.com site |
| 16:47.20 | Moltarain | the updater in java. is it mnt to be run in the browser or as a standalone app? |
| 16:47.21 | KarlThePagan | ask kael if you need details |
| 16:47.30 | |Kev| | I know why they were required, I was asking if they'd be available to other apps |
| 16:47.38 | |Kev| | I'm not a bad citizen ;) |
| 16:47.43 | KarlThePagan | |Kev|, yes please :) |
| 16:48.01 | KarlThePagan | you can right click and open the ads page in a new browser |
| 16:48.07 | KarlThePagan | i think it's wowace.com/ads.html |
| 16:48.13 | KarlThePagan | but... don't trust that ;) |
| 16:48.22 | Cryect | nope! |
| 16:48.23 | Cryect | 404 |
| 16:48.23 | KarlThePagan | Moltarain, it is a stand-alone app... it should be launched by the browser at the moment to ensure that it stays up to date |
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| 16:48.56 | Chompers | do people click the ads? |
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| 16:49.03 | Chompers | on wau2 |
| 16:49.49 | kenlyric | I like clicking ads for stuff I like, but it opens in IE, so, no. |
| 16:50.24 | |Kev| | I'm not opposed to putting ads in mau, if the barrier to entry is sufficiently low |
| 16:50.33 | |Kev| | (although I might intersperse them with an add for mau ;)) |
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| 16:51.22 | kenlyric | I know some people are morally offended by ads for the shit they get for free, but I'm not. As long as there isn't a fucking buzzing bee in the ad. |
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| 16:51.34 | KarlThePagan | apparently some people do click them... i've heard by the by that some users want it to use default browser rather than IE ;) |
| 16:52.05 | KarlThePagan | the only issue is that wowace uses flash ads and sometimes embedded browsers don't support plugins like flash |
| 16:52.06 | kenlyric | yeah, I won't click them again until they do. |
| 16:52.14 | KarlThePagan | hehe ;) |
| 16:52.23 | strigoi | yesterday tried assessment during raids and got quite interesting results: initial memmory: 28,6 ended up with 49Mib, with violation on 28,6 -> 38Mib, with swstats on up to 49 Mib aswell, am i missing smth about assessment or is it really memmory heavy? |
| 16:52.35 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: if you use the default browser you can be quite sure flash is working |
| 16:52.40 | kenlyric | IE is only allowed to go to one website, windows update. |
| 16:52.57 | Trancer | or ah.. the embedded.. hmm |
| 16:53.00 | Moltarain | i dont have IE ,) |
| 16:53.05 | Cryect | strigoi: why not run all 3 at once and see how much memory they use? |
| 16:53.09 | KarlThePagan | Trancer, app-embedded browsers aren't always that simple ;) |
| 16:53.09 | |Kev| | that would suggest the barrier to entry's somewhat higher than ideal ;) |
| 16:53.20 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: yeah, tell me about it *horror* |
| 16:53.20 | Fisker- | IE > * |
| 16:53.23 | KarlThePagan | heh yea |
| 16:53.24 | kenlyric | Moltarain: well, then you don't use windows, so you're not part of this discussion. |
| 16:53.41 | strigoi | Cryect does it make any sence? |
| 16:53.44 | Cryect | strigoi: I mean you don't compare the total memory usage you should only be looking at those addon memory usage |
| 16:53.56 | Cryect | strigoi: well first off the numbers you are using make no sense why you would use those numbers |
| 16:54.00 | durcyn | assessment stores a large amount of data by default |
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| 16:54.18 | KarlThePagan | assessment has a HUGE featureset... I would expect it to use a lot of memory |
| 16:54.26 | Moltarain | kenlyric: wrong assumption, i do use windows to. and i dont have it... |
| 16:54.28 | KarlThePagan | it does things that put all other damage meter apps to shame |
| 16:54.33 | durcyn | and really, memory usage is NOT an indication of breakage |
| 16:54.35 | Cryect | it shouldn't be using 10 MB's |
| 16:54.40 | abyssichate | There is a guy that uses latest revisions of threat/omen/violation but I can barely see him on the meters/threat list - could it be an addon installation issue? |
| 16:54.41 | durcyn | persistent increasing memory usage maybe |
| 16:54.41 | Cryect | its not that a big of a featureset |
| 16:54.48 | Moltarain | but on this box i use linux so thats partly true |
| 16:54.50 | kenlyric | hmmm, are you one of those people who removed the iexplore.exe file and think you got rid of IE? |
| 16:54.58 | KarlThePagan | well ... yea it is a very simple design Cryect :) i like it |
| 16:55.02 | kenlyric | or maybe using window 95? |
| 16:55.06 | Moltarain | anyone that directs a user to IE is stupid... bigg time |
| 16:55.16 | durcyn | kenlyric: pfeh! everyone knows you actually have to delete mshtml.dll and watch the os go down in flames! :o |
| 16:55.24 | KarlThePagan | but it provides so much more details than any other damage meter I wouldn't mind a little more mem usage ;0 |
| 16:55.29 | Cryect | KarlThePagan: Its design is neat but the data is recorded by most damage meters in some sense :-p |
| 16:55.37 | Cryect | KarlThePagan: it doesn't though |
| 16:55.37 | Moltarain | kenlyric: i know how to remove all of ie... |
| 16:55.50 | Moltarain | i run binhaxed version of explorer.exe ... |
| 16:55.56 | Cryect | KarlThePagan: what unique data is it providing? |
| 16:55.57 | KarlThePagan | Cryect, how many index tables tho? |
| 16:56.29 | Moltarain | i did it to vista to, but htat didnt work so well. its so messy.. |
| 16:56.39 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: the listview of WAU2 isn't too fancy btw |
| 16:56.46 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: if used in category mode it's really messy |
| 16:57.00 | Trancer | a gazillion screen updates before it loaded |
| 16:57.11 | KarlThePagan | yea I need to throttle updates |
| 16:57.13 | Cryect | What do you mean how many index tables? (heh not saying I don't dislike Assessment but curious what you are trying to get at) |
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| 16:57.21 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: perhaps cache the list |
| 16:57.49 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: I still think the whole piece of software is overly complex though |
| 16:57.50 | KarlThePagan | Cryect, i'm just wondering how it does what it does... really the drill-down stuff it provides is really nice to have |
| 16:58.01 | KarlThePagan | Trancer, that's just the UI |
| 16:58.06 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: yes |
| 16:58.29 | Trancer | I can redo the UI if you like.. although it's been ages since I last touched awt :X |
| 16:58.38 | KarlThePagan | ... awt? |
| 16:58.42 | KarlThePagan | heh |
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| 16:58.56 | Trancer | it's using awt no? saw some awt namespaces sneak by :P |
| 16:59.08 | KarlThePagan | actually it's SWT ;) |
| 16:59.11 | KarlThePagan | Eclipse RCP |
| 16:59.20 | KarlThePagan | which explains why you think it's overly complex... it is! |
| 16:59.35 | Trancer | Sounds.. scary :p |
| 16:59.37 | KarlThePagan | RCP is a huge pig... uses at least 10mb more than it needs to |
| 16:59.45 | KarlThePagan | but... it provides a few interesting features |
| 16:59.48 | Trancer | what the hell, I managed to ehm.. screw up my firefox |
| 16:59.56 | Trancer | whatever I enter in the search box is reversed |
| 17:00.13 | Trancer | KarlThePagan: want me to draw out a different UI layout? |
| 17:00.21 | KarlThePagan | I would be very very very interested in seeing it redone in Swing |
| 17:00.56 | KarlThePagan | let's talk in #wau |
| 17:01.17 | mikma | so, i have this code: http://mikma.pastey.net/70160 .. why won't shift-F1 work at all? am I missing something? |
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| 17:05.11 | Ominous | hmm when i try to play a dvd in mplayer i get this error error opening / initalizing the video out device and in others it just dosent work |
| 17:05.25 | Ominous | dammit |
| 17:05.31 | Ominous | i hate this channel thing |
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| 17:10.45 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42416 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: Optional/Resurrection: Bugfix. |
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| 17:12.35 | syeren | I would kill for a character planner right now :/ |
| 17:14.16 | Moltarain | why do wua2 try to change my security manager? |
| 17:14.37 | Hjalte | Kaelten is trying to take over your computer. |
| 17:15.16 | dylanm | Noooes. |
| 17:15.17 | Kaelten | Moltarain: ask in #wau |
| 17:15.29 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: will know probably |
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| 17:18.01 | Bam__ | howdy |
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| 17:20.07 | Bam__ | if I use ScheduleEvent with a delay of 0 (zero), does that mean it gets fired right away like with TriggerEvent? Or will it be on the next OnUpdate? |
| 17:21.37 | Bam__ | that is what I need :) |
| 17:22.05 | Bam__ | or rather I just don't want it NOW :) |
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| 17:33.16 | stavmar | does anyone know what the proper dogtag statement should be for CowTip use to prevent classes for NPCs from showing up but not regular players? |
| 17:33.33 | stavmar | currently i have [SmartClass:ClassColor] listed but it shows warrioir for bear NPCs |
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| 17:39.30 | Mikk | So, if I'm writing a library to handle drag'n'drop... |
| 17:39.43 | Mikk | I should be naming it not DragLib or something like that, but rather CrossDresser, right? |
| 17:39.51 | ckknight | stavmar: use [PlayerClass] |
| 17:40.02 | stavmar | ckknight: TY |
| 17:40.04 | Mikk | GownsForMen? |
| 17:40.06 | ckknight | Mikk: why does a library need to be made? |
| 17:40.12 | dodgizzla | stavmar: I use [IsPlayer?Class:ClassColor!Creature] |
| 17:40.14 | syeren | ckknight!!! |
| 17:40.15 | syeren | :) |
| 17:40.41 | ckknight | syeren: hrm? |
| 17:40.50 | syeren | You asked me a question in PM the other day :P |
| 17:40.58 | syeren | And you was asleep when I woke up ;p |
| 17:41.05 | stavmar | dodgizzla: works great thank you |
| 17:41.15 | ckknight | and I just woke up now |
| 17:41.22 | Mikk | ckknight: a helper + standard for dragging not frames but data objects... i.e. defining how frames are linked to data, and how data objects of one kind can accept data objects of another kind dropped on top of them |
| 17:41.36 | ckknight | hrm |
| 17:41.37 | Mikk | I imagine the use is mostly in-addon, but tbh there's places where intra-addon use could be nice |
| 17:41.48 | ckknight | inter-addon |
| 17:41.50 | ckknight | :-P |
| 17:41.55 | Mikk | oups |
| 17:42.00 | Hjalte | I know I've asked it here before; but is there a specific reason that many addons doesnt show up in the tooltip of items you click on in the chat? I don't see mendeleev, but tankpoints is in the tooltip, so it's not impossible. |
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| 17:43.49 | ckknight | alright, gonna watch JekyllS01E03 |
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| 17:44.04 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42417 10oRA2/Optional/ (Version.lua Zone.lua): oRA2: Bugfixes. |
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| 17:46.58 | hypetech | anything around here like Recap, so you can see how somebody in your raid died? |
| 17:47.10 | Mikk | Expiration or sth like that |
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| 17:48.16 | hypetech | actually wait |
| 17:48.20 | ccKep | /combatlog |
| 17:48.20 | hypetech | expiration is what I meant |
| 17:48.21 | ccKep | =) |
| 17:48.23 | hypetech | is that ace2? |
| 17:48.26 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42418 10ItemValue/ (Data_Jewels.lua ItemValue.lua ItemValue.toc): |
| 17:48.26 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 17:48.26 | CIA-22 | - "#embeds.xml" is bad for externals. |
| 17:48.34 | hypetech | oo |
| 17:48.38 | hypetech | that's good news :) |
| 17:48.53 | Mikk | hypetech: lesse.. http://files.wowace.com ... ctrl+f "expiration" ... yup it's there |
| 17:51.54 | hypetech | lol |
| 17:51.59 | hypetech | ya, I just idd that :p |
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| 17:55.07 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42419 10NShakedown/AddonBase.lua: NShakedown: better LOD and loadmanager addon detection |
| 17:55.47 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42420 10NShakedown/Addons/BigWigs.lua: NShakedown: propagate BigWigs message anchor show/hide change |
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| 17:58.48 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r42421 10InFlight/InFlight.lua: |
| 17:58.48 | CIA-22 | InFlight: |
| 17:58.48 | CIA-22 | - recheck db |
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| 18:03.19 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42422 10NShakedown/ (Addons/PitBull.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add PitBull support |
| 18:08.12 | liquiem | omg, some guildies dont believe that threat has it's threat table for every mob, because that would decrease performance |
| 18:09.37 | Lyfe | well, it's obviously a small performance hit.. but nothing nearly as ugly as what ktm does :) |
| 18:10.01 | nymbia | lol |
| 18:10.11 | Nemes_ | we're talking interpreted scripts and gigantic amounts of CPU power required for frame rendering |
| 18:10.35 | Nemes_ | and people are saying that calculating threat for each mob would be too much overhead? |
| 18:10.37 | liquiem | yeah, all about the master target.. omen doesnt have it, so obviously there's something missing |
| 18:11.11 | Nemes_ | <sigh> |
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| 18:11.47 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42423 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Bongos2.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add support for Bongos2 and attachments |
| 18:11.57 | liquiem | but, more and more members using omen thou |
| 18:12.24 | Nemes_ | I didn't even have to suggest it... our tanks all found out about it and whined until people swapped |
| 18:12.52 | strigoi | btw is there any way to solve problem with omen when you have 2 different mobs with same name |
| 18:12.55 | Mikk | liquiem: use this argument "but each person only has to calculate threat for his own personal target. the rest is just synced" |
| 18:13.00 | Mikk | idiot programmers will swallow it |
| 18:13.03 | strigoi | the data it displays is waaay off |
| 18:13.20 | Mikk | no |
| 18:13.24 | Thorgard | ] |
| 18:13.33 | Mikk | blizzard does not let us distinguish between two different mobs with the same name on purpose |
| 18:13.43 | liquiem | strigoi, effects omen like ktm |
| 18:14.13 | strigoi | ye true but for example on illidian it cause some problems for me |
| 18:14.40 | liquiem | fire elementals? |
| 18:14.41 | strigoi | in p2 |
| 18:14.44 | strigoi | yep |
| 18:14.48 | strigoi | flame of azinoth |
| 18:14.49 | Mikk | not much to be done about it |
| 18:14.50 | Mikk | blizzard wants it that way |
| 18:14.50 | strigoi | smth |
| 18:14.51 | liquiem | reset after first is dead |
| 18:14.55 | Nemes_ | how about on mag? omen seems to distinguish between the five warlocks just fine... |
| 18:15.18 | liquiem | Nemes_, healer? |
| 18:15.25 | Nemes_ | ahaha how did you know? |
| 18:15.31 | strigoi | Mikk hmm thats a good point, what was teh command to force omen reset data |
| 18:16.13 | liquiem | Nemes_, because omen has support for mob count, so it splits heal threat up |
| 18:16.15 | Chompers | first pull in TK...and 3/4 die |
| 18:16.16 | Nemes_ | as I change targets, healing the different tanks, their threat bars (in pitbull...) each top out as they should with the aggro |
| 18:16.21 | liquiem | doesnt work for dmg done :/ |
| 18:16.22 | Chompers | wow, those groups are hard |
| 18:16.42 | strigoi | also sometimes i had some kind of wierd behaviour from omen: When the fight starts MT shows up in the list togather with aggro gain, but like 1 minute into the fight i'm like 300% on top of MT according to Omen |
| 18:17.02 | Mikk | Nemes_: there's nothing odd about it. each tank is hitting "Blah Warlock". his threat is tracked normally. |
| 18:17.16 | Mikk | Omen doesn't know and doesn't care that they're different mobs |
| 18:18.00 | Mikk | It believes that all the tanks are hitting the same warlock |
| 18:18.26 | Mikk | Problem is for dpsers. They do a fuckload of damage to warlock #1, then on warlock #2, then on warlock #3 |
| 18:18.38 | Mikk | and omen will show them as miles above the last tank before the last is dead |
| 18:18.52 | Nemes_ | hrmm... I'll keep a more careful eye out next time |
| 18:18.54 | Mikk | but tbh, there's never a problem on mag |
| 18:19.07 | Mikk | since they're taking time to kill the first warlock |
| 18:19.08 | Nemes_ | heh... last tank has plenty of time to get miles ahead of the damage dealers |
| 18:19.18 | Mikk | the other tanks are going to be so bloody high above them |
| 18:19.22 | Mikk | they can just stop tanking, tbh |
| 18:19.25 | Nemes_ | OT: Mikk: are you the guy who wrote battle text? |
| 18:19.32 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 18:19.33 | purl | it has been said that mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 18:19.43 | Nemes_ | lol fair enough |
| 18:19.51 | Thorgard | Lies |
| 18:20.45 | hypetech | what is battle text |
| 18:20.51 | Mikk | MSBT |
| 18:20.56 | Thorgard | SCT-like. |
| 18:20.56 | hypetech | ... |
| 18:20.57 | Nemes_ | it's similar to SCT |
| 18:20.59 | hypetech | ah |
| 18:21.07 | Thorgard | But, imho, sexier. ;P |
| 18:21.27 | hypetech | any screens or videos where I can see it? |
| 18:21.37 | strigoi | i used MSBT for like 6 months and switched back to SCT |
| 18:21.52 | Thorgard | http://stage6.divx.com/members/261578/videos/1050056 |
| 18:21.53 | Trancer | just using the native version here |
| 18:21.57 | Trancer | you'll get used to it rapidly :) |
| 18:22.06 | Mikk | yer, i'm using native too |
| 18:22.12 | Nemes_ | I keep trying to give up SCT and just use the standard stuff... but keep going back for things like overhealing and crit / event notifications |
| 18:22.19 | Mikk | with an omnibus script that filters out some junk i don't want to see |
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| 18:23.50 | strigoi | btw what's more efficient if i may say so from those 2 addons (sct/msbt) |
| 18:24.08 | Thorgard | Hilarity: http://roflsaurus.com/users/public/w42728problems49.jpg |
| 18:24.08 | strigoi | performance wise i mean |
| 18:24.24 | Hjalte | My wow just made a weird sound oO Like some men at a soccer game when their team misses the goal by an inch. |
| 18:24.44 | Thorgard | Hjalte, Omen threat warning? ;P |
| 18:24.50 | strigoi | i bet its Omen sound allert |
| 18:24.51 | strigoi | xD |
| 18:25.15 | Hjalte | Thorgard, might have been. But it wasnt a real battle, just me playing with some hordes. |
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| 18:25.47 | RaydenUnicyclist | pitbull? |
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| 18:27.15 | Chompers | first TK group down :D |
| 18:27.26 | Chompers | man they're intense |
| 18:27.33 | Trancer | you know you can mass CC them, right? |
| 18:27.47 | Chompers | yup |
| 18:27.49 | Trancer | k |
| 18:27.52 | Mikk | MC ftw |
| 18:27.53 | Trancer | eh.. before you wipe on next pack |
| 18:28.04 | Trancer | the big guy in the middle does a bad ass cleave :P |
| 18:28.05 | Chompers | who can be mc'd ? |
| 18:28.07 | Trancer | don't pull him into your raid ;) |
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| 18:28.49 | liquiem | dont tell everything :( |
| 18:29.07 | liquiem | they saved the attument, so let them wipe on trash! |
| 18:29.18 | Trancer | hehehe |
| 18:29.24 | Trancer | they'll with the alar birds :p |
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| 18:30.58 | Chompers | holy shit |
| 18:31.06 | Chompers | that whirlwind is nasty :o |
| 18:31.36 | CIA-22 | 03airochen * r42424 10oRA2/Options.lua: oRA2/Options.lua - fix zhTW error |
| 18:32.54 | strigoi | oh ye found a screenie |
| 18:32.57 | strigoi | http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9773/wow2007062421244928ff4.jpg |
| 18:33.06 | strigoi | thats how it acts in p2 |
| 18:33.44 | Trancer | Chompers: told you :P |
| 18:34.03 | ccKep | damn pizza service..... waiting nearly 2 hours now |
| 18:34.21 | Trancer | strigoi: you in LR? |
| 18:34.27 | Trancer | ah, guess you are, hmm. :) |
| 18:34.32 | hypetech | ccKep: tell them you want it free :) |
| 18:34.33 | strigoi | yes |
| 18:34.44 | Trancer | strigoi: you used to be on Skullcrusher with LR already or joined later? |
| 18:34.53 | strigoi | joined later |
| 18:34.56 | Trancer | ah |
| 18:35.02 | Trancer | I miss Kerp :~( |
| 18:35.03 | ccKep | hypetech: hoping they send some nice chica to deliver it ^.^ |
| 18:35.03 | liquiem | omg omg last resort.. can i have an autogram? |
| 18:35.07 | liquiem | pleeeeaaaase |
| 18:35.08 | Trancer | levelled up with him :P |
| 18:35.09 | liquiem | :p |
| 18:35.48 | Trancer | autograms ftw. |
| 18:36.01 | strigoi | he slacks ;p but anyway if you check Omen ion the screen, the tank (on the elemental) is not even in the threat list for some reason |
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| 18:36.27 | Trancer | strigoi: had that problem on morogrim last week |
| 18:36.33 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42425 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Chronometer.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add Chronometer support |
| 18:36.39 | Trancer | tank wasn't in the threatlist, all the rest was |
| 18:36.55 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude 07SimpleChatMods * r42426 10funkydude/ (7 files): |
| 18:36.55 | CIA-22 | SimpleChatMods: |
| 18:36.55 | CIA-22 | - remove justify |
| 18:36.55 | CIA-22 | - remove button hiding |
| 18:36.55 | CIA-22 | - only parse chatframe1 for channelnames and URL's |
| 18:36.56 | CIA-22 | - only parse first 3 chatframes for scrolling and timestamps |
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| 18:39.51 | Tanja | hi |
| 18:40.08 | ckknight | hey |
| 18:40.45 | Chompers | hey ck |
| 18:40.46 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 18:40.57 | Trancer | Chompers: killed that trashpack? :p |
| 18:41.01 | ckknight | lol, Chompers, I was saying hey to Tanja |
| 18:41.03 | Chompers | we sure did |
| 18:41.10 | Trancer | Chompers: k, split off and nuke = win :p |
| 18:41.10 | Chompers | no deaths on second group |
| 18:41.12 | Nemes_ | how's that combat text addon going ckknight? finished yet? |
| 18:41.18 | ckknight | not started |
| 18:41.21 | ckknight | thinking of starting today |
| 18:41.24 | Chompers | but i hit the sheep on 3rd group :< |
| 18:41.40 | Chompers | fucking whirlwind..its just too temping |
| 18:42.10 | Tanja | hi |
| 18:43.29 | strigoi | damn I still can't figure out whats wrong with this macro : /changeactionbar [actionbar:3] 4 |
| 18:43.44 | Hjalte | The Aggro Alert options in oRA2, will it always match my Banzaialert settings? |
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| 18:44.29 | strigoi | is it even possible to make a manual page swap in bartender on other then bar1 bars without using modifiers |
| 18:44.58 | Nemes_ | strigoi: why are you swapping action bars? |
| 18:45.21 | Nemes_ | I used to swap, however I discovered some cool new macro features that removed the need to swap |
| 18:45.45 | strigoi | Nemes_ tell me ;p |
| 18:46.16 | Nemes_ | I play a priest, so I want one "bar" of offensive spells when I'm targetting a friendly and one "bar" when I'm targetting an enemy |
| 18:46.35 | strigoi | well the idea is simple i want to have 2 hidden action bars (bar 3 and 4) and 2 visible ones (bar 1 and 2) and when i use a key bind (ctrl+mw) they swap |
| 18:46.37 | Nemes_ | I used to have discord action bars swap bars automatically, however now I use one bar with macros |
| 18:46.44 | Nemes_ | is that what you need? |
| 18:46.49 | Chompers | can't you use macros to do that? |
| 18:46.57 | Chompers | bind 2 spells to each button |
| 18:47.01 | strigoi | thats exactly what i want Chompers |
| 18:47.06 | strigoi | ah no |
| 18:47.06 | Chompers | one for enemy/friendly |
| 18:47.15 | strigoi | no no ;p i have that already |
| 18:47.23 | Nemes_ | here we are: #showtooltip |
| 18:47.24 | Nemes_ | /cast [modifier:alt target=player] Flash Heal; [harm] Shadow Word: Pain; Flash Heal |
| 18:47.54 | strigoi | Nemes_ i have those macros all working fine, but the idea behind those hidden bars is |
| 18:47.58 | Nemes_ | well... what do you need strigoi? |
| 18:48.16 | strigoi | that i have some kills i don't need to have visible, but only sometimes |
| 18:48.23 | strigoi | like lets say crafting skills |
| 18:48.35 | strigoi | but i need to access em sometimes |
| 18:48.44 | Nemes_ | in combat and out of combat? |
| 18:48.59 | strigoi | shouldn't matter |
| 18:49.25 | Nemes_ | what about fadeout? I only have the bt3 menubar show when I mouseover it... can you set that? |
| 18:49.37 | strigoi | question is pretty simple: how to swap barX to barY page with a macro |
| 18:50.11 | Nemes_ | can you use /changeactionbar [actionbar:3] 4 with the blizzard standard UI? |
| 18:50.19 | Trancer | I just had a mouseover bar on the right of my screen |
| 18:50.20 | Nemes_ | I mean, is it bartender that's stopping the swapping? |
| 18:50.24 | strigoi | never tried it tbh ;) |
| 18:50.26 | Trancer | default hidden.. on mouseover it pops up |
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| 18:51.25 | strigoi | ./changeactionbar [actionbar:4] 3 simply now working |
| 18:51.37 | strigoi | maybe i messed up smth in the settings, i really have no clue |
| 18:52.05 | Nemes_ | sounds like someone mistyped something... |
| 18:52.06 | strigoi | but for example /changeactionbar [actionbar:1] 3 works |
| 18:52.30 | strigoi | basicly i can change bar1 to any page i want |
| 18:52.39 | strigoi | but with bar 2-10 it's not working |
| 18:53.03 | Nemes_ | aha! |
| 18:53.18 | Nemes_ | that's because the blizzard UI only really supports page swapping on bar 12 |
| 18:53.21 | Nemes_ | *bar 1 |
| 18:53.33 | strigoi | but! |
| 18:53.49 | ccKep | yay, pizza finally arrived |
| 18:53.52 | ccKep | nearly took them 2 hours.......... |
| 18:54.03 | strigoi | if i set lets say alt modifier for bar 2 it perfectly switches to bar 3 if i hold alt :) |
| 18:54.44 | Nemes_ | yup... but the /changeactionbar macro command will only ever support bar 1 |
| 18:54.47 | snirks | my screen flashes red at times |
| 18:54.53 | snirks | and a crazy sound |
| 18:54.55 | snirks | what is that? |
| 18:54.58 | strigoi | Omen |
| 18:54.58 | Mudkipz | omen? |
| 18:55.04 | strigoi | alerts on overaggro |
| 18:55.17 | snirks | weird :P im the MT |
| 18:55.20 | snirks | but ok |
| 18:55.23 | Nemes_ | probably want to stop shadowbolting there snirks |
| 18:55.43 | strigoi | Nemes and there is no way to cheat this ?;p |
| 18:55.44 | snirks | maybe if i was warlock |
| 18:55.54 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:56.03 | ckknight | Nemes_: I need a name for my combat text addon |
| 18:56.23 | Nemes_ | come on... I just called an addon shakedown and the one I'm working on is called buffbars.... |
| 18:56.36 | Nemes_ | never ask a developer to name something... |
| 18:56.45 | ckknight | maybe Llama... |
| 18:56.50 | ckknight | everyone likes Llamas |
| 18:56.50 | Chompers | 'Spammy' |
| 18:57.04 | Nemes_ | I'll think about it, but no whining if it's excessively lame |
| 18:57.12 | ckknight | nah, Spam has too much sodium in it for my tastes |
| 18:57.39 | Nemes_ | no more obvious names, such as "arcing combat log" or anything though |
| 18:58.02 | snirks | just name it enragedsporebats |
| 18:58.21 | Codayus | combat text -> spam -> ham -> "Green Eggs" |
| 18:58.25 | Nemes_ | blizzard calls theirs "floating combat text"... we need something on a floaty theme |
| 18:58.30 | Codayus | Name it "Green Eggs" |
| 18:58.41 | Nemes_ | heh |
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| 18:58.47 | ckknight | or Porker |
| 18:58.49 | Codayus | Hmm, floating...cloud? Hm |
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| 18:59.01 | Chompers | Porky |
| 18:59.13 | ckknight | Clouds are a good theme... |
| 18:59.21 | Codayus | Cloud of numbers? "Mosquito"? "Cloud Nine"? |
| 18:59.22 | ckknight | Potbelly |
| 18:59.24 | Nemes_ | just looked up the foo fighter's floaty lyrics... and they are no help |
| 18:59.27 | Chompers | ThuderousPorker |
| 18:59.44 | ckknight | hrm... Mosquito... |
| 18:59.53 | Codayus | Clouds...storms? Thunderstorms? Lightning... |
| 18:59.54 | bigzero | anyone know a mod that would prevent you from looting certain items or would allow you to loot only certain items when autolooting for instance? |
| 18:59.55 | Megalon | Numerus Cloudus |
| 18:59.58 | Chompers | Jumbo |
| 19:00.05 | Nemes_ | who came up with cowtip? 'cause that's clever |
| 19:00.08 | Chompers | Cirrus |
| 19:00.11 | snirks | swinged cow |
| 19:00.15 | Nemes_ | and who the hell came up with pitbull, 'cause that's just odd |
| 19:00.16 | ckknight | no cows |
| 19:00.20 | ckknight | Nemes_: that's me |
| 19:00.20 | snirks | swinged pork |
| 19:00.24 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 19:00.27 | Codayus | Flying pigs? |
| 19:00.28 | Nemes_ | sowti |
| 19:00.32 | Nemes_ | cowtip or pitbull, ck? |
| 19:00.37 | ckknight | PitBull |
| 19:00.38 | snirks | sheepfuck |
| 19:00.43 | ckknight | someone else came up with CowTip |
| 19:00.44 | strigoi | :) |
| 19:00.51 | Nemes_ | why the hell pitbull? |
| 19:01.02 | bigzero | what's the mod? |
| 19:01.07 | ckknight | Nemes_: because it was manly. |
| 19:01.10 | ckknight | bigzero: SCT clone |
| 19:01.10 | Nemes_ | ok.... |
| 19:01.31 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 19:01.31 | strigoi | mmm |
| 19:01.33 | Nemes_ | on the pets theme: you have a talking parrot on your shoulder, that tells you the combat log numbers |
| 19:01.34 | strigoi | sounds sweet |
| 19:01.49 | Chompers | Polly |
| 19:01.51 | Chompers | or Cracker |
| 19:01.57 | Codayus | Actually, Parrot isn't a bad name. You don't *need* puns for a good addon name. |
| 19:02.10 | Nemes_ | CombatParrot |
| 19:02.16 | ckknight | nah, Parrot's the Perl6 VM |
| 19:02.26 | Codayus | Pft |
| 19:02.36 | ckknight | not a bad name, though |
| 19:02.45 | Nemes_ | ok.... who is the parrot from captain pugwash? |
| 19:03.12 | Codayus | Okay, maybe just pick something completely random. Name it Broccoli, and never have to worry about someone else making a mod with the same name! |
| 19:03.28 | ckknight | hrm, Broccoli's not bad |
| 19:03.38 | ckknight | not manly, though |
| 19:03.42 | Codayus | Ah. |
| 19:03.49 | ckknight | and George Bush Sr. didn't like Broccoli |
| 19:03.49 | Thorgard | ckknight, name it Wang. |
| 19:03.50 | Codayus | Okay, what's a *manly* vegetable? |
| 19:03.59 | Hjalte | Swinging broccoli |
| 19:04.01 | nymbia | Scoot |
| 19:04.03 | nymbia | ;) |
| 19:04.05 | ckknight | Scoot? |
| 19:04.10 | Codayus | Actually...hmm. Wang.... |
| 19:04.11 | ckknight | that just doesn't make sense |
| 19:04.20 | nymbia | that's true |
| 19:04.28 | Thorgard | Wang's very manly |
| 19:04.39 | ckknight | I'd expect Scoot to be a movement-related addon |
| 19:04.40 | Nemes_ | do americans know who captain pugwash is? |
| 19:04.52 | ckknight | Nemes_: no, it's British |
| 19:04.52 | Chompers | call it Sausage |
| 19:04.53 | Codayus | Well, some people use combat text to stroke their epeen, right? "Dude, 8k crit!" |
| 19:05.01 | Chompers | i'd love you for ever and ever if you called it that ckk |
| 19:05.02 | ckknight | hrm, Sausage... |
| 19:05.09 | Nemes_ | well, how about PugWash? on the dog theme |
| 19:05.10 | ckknight | I'm not averse to the idea |
| 19:05.27 | ckknight | Nemes_: nah, I don't have a dog theme |
| 19:05.46 | ckknight | okay, anyone have anything better than Sausage? |
| 19:05.51 | Thorgard | AntHill. |
| 19:05.53 | Trancer | Scotty ? |
| 19:06.03 | ckknight | why AntHill? |
| 19:06.16 | ckknight | alright, I should get up |
| 19:06.22 | ckknight | been lying in bed for an hour and a half now |
| 19:06.22 | Codayus | Aww, Wang is totally better than sausage. |
| 19:06.24 | Srosh | Homer? |
| 19:06.25 | Trancer | somebody should mak a sloppy addon and call it Manatee |
| 19:06.31 | ckknight | nah, Sausage is more discrete than Wang |
| 19:06.34 | Trancer | "because it's slow fat and ugly" |
| 19:06.41 | Thorgard | Haha |
| 19:06.45 | Nemes_ | if you call it saussage, you have to add a "jockey" module |
| 19:06.50 | ckknight | lol. |
| 19:06.53 | strigoi | haha |
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| 19:06.56 | Trancer | hehehe |
| 19:07.01 | ckknight | Sausage is still manly, at least in the sense that it resembles a penis |
| 19:07.20 | ckknight | also, sausages are tasty |
| 19:07.20 | Codayus | Call it Mustang. That's manly, right? |
| 19:07.30 | Trancer | and when you have a new crit record it says "New Enlargement", yeah yeah |
| 19:07.38 | Srosh | name it banger then |
| 19:07.49 | Nemes_ | Cumberland |
| 19:07.52 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna go with Sausage unless something comes up with something better |
| 19:07.57 | Trancer | or Cucumber |
| 19:08.04 | ckknight | Cucumbers are gay. |
| 19:08.06 | Srosh | Cucuma! |
| 19:08.15 | Codayus | Wait, isn't gay manly? I'm confused! |
| 19:08.20 | ckknight | depends |
| 19:08.21 | Nemes_ | cucumbers only have sex with other vegetables of the same sex? |
| 19:08.24 | Srosh | *Curcama maybe? |
| 19:08.36 | ckknight | Nemes_: they just prefer the company of other cucumbers |
| 19:09.00 | Codayus | Okay, what about papyrus? |
| 19:09.04 | Nemes_ | so what about those poor cucumbers that are used in the lowrent porn? who thinks about their feelings? |
| 19:09.15 | Codayus | Since that's something you'd make a scroll out of. |
| 19:09.26 | Nemes_ | I like that Codayus |
| 19:09.29 | Thorgard | There's Cisco and Sundance! |
| 19:09.39 | Thorgard | Name it after a cowboy or something, that's manly |
| 19:09.40 | Srosh | Edison! |
| 19:10.04 | Nemes_ | ok how about something simple, like Floatation |
| 19:10.10 | Chompers | hey, i've got a problem with my Sausage |
| 19:10.11 | Trancer | Papyrus sounds so old fashioned though |
| 19:10.12 | Chompers | see |
| 19:10.13 | Chompers | it works |
| 19:10.21 | Trancer | heheehe |
| 19:10.22 | Codayus | Vellum? What else do you make scrolls out of? |
| 19:10.23 | Chompers | hey, i've got a problem with my Sausage strings |
| 19:10.26 | Srosh | RowTheBoat! |
| 19:10.27 | liquiem | what about sunrise? |
| 19:10.31 | Trancer | Sausage would be a good name for a crit record addon tbh |
| 19:10.46 | Trancer | liquiem: so.. I have my sunrise setup to go left |
| 19:10.54 | Codayus | Parchment...also old fashioned sounding I suppose. |
| 19:10.55 | Nemes_ | like that flamewar discussion in the ace forums yesterday... people are sick of addons whose names don't have anything to do with their function |
| 19:11.08 | Codayus | Ooh? What flamewar? |
| 19:11.23 | Trancer | Nemes_: that's so much fun |
| 19:11.30 | Trancer | Nemes_: I keep giving my software bullshit names |
| 19:11.37 | liquiem | hmm, sct doesnt show it#s function directly |
| 19:11.40 | Srosh | link it! |
| 19:11.51 | Trancer | rubberduck, coliflower, that kinda bs |
| 19:11.54 | liquiem | which addon does? ktm, no, bartender, maybe |
| 19:12.01 | Nemes_ | heh... I have only worked as a corporate slave... all my software has crap names :-( |
| 19:12.05 | Srosh | Odyssee! for name |
| 19:12.18 | Kinkx | Call it Vague, the flamewar people will love that |
| 19:12.43 | Nemes_ | no! people aren't well read enough... there was a guy in our guild called "Odysseus" who had no idea what I was on about when I kept yelling "I am noman" at him |
| 19:12.50 | strigoi | ah ye any idea what does AuldLangSyne mean ?;p |
| 19:12.55 | Nemes_ | lol strgoi |
| 19:13.01 | Srosh | rofl, Nemes_ |
| 19:13.06 | Codayus | Nemes_: Ouch |
| 19:13.16 | [dRaCo] | strigoi: it's an old folk song |
| 19:13.22 | Nemes_ | he left after a while... |
| 19:13.23 | Srosh | Niebelungen! |
| 19:13.23 | [dRaCo] | irish or scottish or smth |
| 19:13.27 | Sais | Scots |
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| 19:13.36 | syeren | ckknight, are you around? |
| 19:13.41 | Sais | Auld = old. Lang = long. Not sure what "Syne" is. |
| 19:13.42 | Nemes_ | well... it looks like ckknight has gone, so it's saussage anyway |
| 19:13.49 | Codayus | Meh |
| 19:13.53 | Srosh | damn! |
| 19:14.16 | liquiem | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auld_Lang_Syne |
| 19:14.18 | Srosh | make SauSage then, ckknight :P |
| 19:14.23 | liquiem | or en. |
| 19:14.41 | liquiem | „old long since“ |
| 19:15.23 | Nemes_ | I can't believe people buy the felweed I put on the auction house for 15g... |
| 19:15.23 | strigoi | mmm kk |
| 19:15.51 | liquiem | 15g is cheap, with 10k gold |
| 19:16.02 | Nemes_ | I only just got an epic mount... |
| 19:16.27 | strigoi | less addons writing more farming .... errrr or wait, no! |
| 19:16.51 | Nemes_ | if it weren't for the addons, wow would have been over for me over a year ago... |
| 19:17.03 | liquiem | you can do 5 daily quests in 1hr, ~50g every day and so on |
| 19:18.22 | strigoi | liquiem yeah for last 7 days i earned 712 g with quests according to auditorfu info |
| 19:18.23 | strigoi | :) |
| 19:18.27 | Codayus | It's 12g a quest, so that's actually 60g. And I timed it - takes me less than 50 minutes as a holy priest without an epic mount. :) |
| 19:18.39 | kebinusan | ok, where the hell do peopple in my guild come up with these avatars: http://www.shutupandpull.com/images/avatars/7312797574685f86543ecc.gif |
| 19:18.42 | Nemes_ | heh... I have two level 70s... went from 2k gold to 5k gold in two weeks |
| 19:18.59 | Nemes_ | keb you need a new guild |
| 19:19.04 | kebinusan | rofl |
| 19:19.13 | Codayus | I'm with Nemes_ on that one. |
| 19:19.31 | strigoi | kebinusan pfft :( |
| 19:19.36 | kebinusan | I admit that disturbed me a lil bit |
| 19:19.49 | Nemes_ | don't ever agree to meet these people for a drink or anything |
| 19:20.14 | Lyfe | wow.. glad i wasn't getting ready to eat or anything. |
| 19:20.14 | liquiem | lol, sounds like hostel setting to me Nemes_ ;) |
| 19:20.30 | Codayus | Nobody in my guild has ever used an avatar like that. If one did and wouldn't remove it, that'd be a /gkick. oO |
| 19:20.38 | Nemes_ | is that that freaky movie where they kidnap and torture people? |
| 19:20.50 | Peoii | Best post ever regarding reasons to go to events like BlizCon.... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97560495&sid=1&pageNo=2 (Read Jabantik's post on that page) |
| 19:21.55 | Codayus | Heh |
| 19:22.35 | Chompers | so ckknight, what are your plans for Sausage? |
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| 19:22.44 | Ominous | whats a good notepadd program like notepadd ++ for linux? |
| 19:22.57 | Kyahx | gedit :P |
| 19:22.59 | Nemes_ | emacs, ominous, and that's the last we will ever hear of that subject |
| 19:22.59 | Fisker- | fukken vi |
| 19:23.01 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 19:23.02 | Fisker- | VI |
| 19:23.11 | Nemes_ | SEE WHAT YOU"VE STARTED!??? |
| 19:23.17 | Ominous | rofl |
| 19:23.19 | Nemes_ | now I'm going to have to hunt Fisker down and kill him |
| 19:23.37 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 19:23.45 | Lyfe | haha.. i had a phone interview for a systems admin position, and one of the last things the guy asked me was "vi or emacs?" .. mostly for a joke :) |
| 19:24.06 | Nemes_ | regarding saussage: it's important that it not be configurable, except by the user manually editing the LUA |
| 19:24.42 | Peoii | both vi and emacs are far to annoying in usage.... I like good ol' pico |
| 19:24.55 | Nemes_ | sorry peoii, for that, you are banned for life |
| 19:25.07 | Lyfe | pico (and it's successor, nano) drive me nuts. I cannot stand them. |
| 19:25.38 | Nemes_ | actually... I don't really care one way or the other; for shell scripting, general UNIX stuff, I use VI, for development, I use emacs |
| 19:26.00 | Lyfe | i have a mac. for development, i use xcode. :) |
| 19:27.57 | strigoi | ehh |
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| 19:28.26 | ckknight | Chompers: basically, it'll be "like" SCT/MSBT, except that it will be simple, customizeable, powerful, and good |
| 19:28.34 | ckknight | also, I'll steal all the cool features from both |
| 19:28.46 | syeren | You're making an SCT now? |
| 19:28.47 | ckknight | also, I will have it open on the SVN so people can hack it if they please. |
| 19:28.52 | ckknight | syeren: Sausage! |
| 19:28.56 | syeren | Get Auras working. |
| 19:29.06 | strigoi | is it up already ckknight? |
| 19:29.07 | syeren | Sick of stupid row orders that make no sense. |
| 19:29.13 | Peoii | wru Sprocket Remake.... WRU |
| 19:29.14 | Saroz | ckknight, would it be possible to make a feature so frames in pitbull attaches to other frames, to make TT and TTT line up, and Party Targets |
| 19:29.20 | ckknight | Strigoi: not started yet |
| 19:29.24 | syeren | "OH NO A RENEW IS ON THIS ROW, BETTER PUT ALL THE DEBUFFS ON AN ENTIRE NEW ROW." |
| 19:29.25 | syeren | :( |
| 19:29.34 | ckknight | syeren: ugh, yea. |
| 19:30.18 | Nemes_ | ermm... you can always have a hack at Aura.lua yourself there syeren ;) |
| 19:30.18 | strigoi | ckknight oh ;) well good name is 50% of success ;> |
| 19:30.28 | Chompers | gonna intergrate dogtag into it? |
| 19:30.30 | ckknight | Strigoi: hehe |
| 19:30.41 | ckknight | Chompers: I don't see how, it's not something that you would have be tag-based |
| 19:30.50 | Chompers | hrm, good point |
| 19:31.05 | ckknight | Chompers: since it's text that rapidly comes and goes and is based on current events |
| 19:31.07 | ckknight | rather than state |
| 19:31.28 | Nemes_ | ermm... ckknight we are all joking about the dogtag integration... |
| 19:31.32 | ckknight | DogTag and other tag-based addons are based on state |
| 19:31.32 | syeren | Nemes_, I'd rather donate money to give the author more time / will to do so ;p |
| 19:31.46 | syeren | Better than me chopping apart code with my zero knowledge of the code! |
| 19:31.50 | syeren | Or how to code :p |
| 19:31.55 | Peoii | You know what thing about MSBT annoyed me more than anything else? The config.... ugh.... that drove me so insane I went back to SCT |
| 19:32.01 | Peoii | that, and the lack of font options :/ |
| 19:32.30 | strigoi | Peoii i so understand this ;p |
| 19:32.55 | Nemes_ | I've been having a look around in nonace addons such as msbt, dotimers, morganti's etc. and their code is so complex and unreadable 'cause they reinvent the wheel each time |
| 19:33.18 | ckknight | Nemes_: but I'll reinvent it better! |
| 19:33.21 | Nemes_ | however with most Ace stuff you can pick it up very quickly, due to the similarities in structure and use of libraries |
| 19:33.43 | strigoi | Nemes_ don't touch dotimer :( |
| 19:33.49 | Peoii | Nemes_: Imagine that, code which in of itself has to do less, being cleaner... shocker. |
| 19:33.52 | Nemes_ | I've never understood reinventing the wheel when there is a perfectly good library that does it better than you could |
| 19:33.54 | strigoi | can't replace it with anything so far :\ |
| 19:33.54 | Trancer | please do touch dotimer and rewrite it |
| 19:33.57 | Trancer | it's horrible |
| 19:33.58 | Trancer | :/ |
| 19:34.13 | Nemes_ | I did dotimer only because someone requested it for NShakedown |
| 19:34.44 | Nemes_ | finding the unlocking functions for that took me an hour of digging through code... for Chronometer it took 5 mins from start to checking in |
| 19:34.48 | Gagorian | I really can't understand how something so simple as a dotimer can be so complex |
| 19:34.52 | Peoii | Nemes_: Because sometimes reinventing the wheel makes the wheel better, and then the other manufacturers can grow as a result. Nothing is perfect, and it's arrogance to say that everyone should use one thing simply because it's there. You never know what someone might come up with. |
| 19:35.15 | Nemes_ | the dotimer guy wrote his own cryptically configurable libraries for UI elements |
| 19:35.58 | Nemes_ | aha! by that argument Peoii, you should only reinvent the wheel when it's clear that the wheel is crap and needs a rewrite; if the driveshaft, transmission, diff, steering etc. are fine, keep them |
| 19:36.04 | strigoi | Nemes_ i'm not quite familliar with dotimer code, but so far none of the ace add-ons can repeat some of main features of dotimer |
| 19:36.15 | strigoi | and i think i tried em all :( |
| 19:36.20 | Nemes_ | Chronometer? |
| 19:36.41 | strigoi | not working with multiple targets and debuffs with same names |
| 19:36.51 | strigoi | e.g. if you have 2 shadow priests in raid |
| 19:36.53 | kergoth | Nemes_, most libraries are, by design, general purpose. a clueful dev will always be able to do it better, for their own purposes. it'll increase their ram usage, and increase code complexity, but to assume that the library can always do it better than you is just plain flawed. |
| 19:37.10 | kergoth | heh, strigoi.. my hunter's white bat is named that :) |
| 19:37.25 | strigoi | :( |
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| 19:37.50 | strigoi | is it good at least / ;p[ |
| 19:38.03 | Gagorian | I use dotimer myself, I think it's the best functionality wise.. but still the code is shit |
| 19:38.16 | Gagorian | Also. It's now 800 kb since last GC, gained 650 |
| 19:38.17 | Nemes_ | kergoth: what you say is true, but is it practical to rewrite standard libraries each time? I'd prefer to use what's avaialble and then go back and tune or trash and rewrite the bad libraries if necessary |
| 19:38.27 | hypetech | does dotimer handle multiple mages scorching? |
| 19:38.44 | strigoi | hypetech yeah |
| 19:38.50 | hypetech | hmm |
| 19:38.53 | Peoii | orly? |
| 19:38.57 | Trancer | Nemes_: configuration of dotimer is a mess |
| 19:38.59 | kergoth | i didnt claim it was pratical, nor that it was always best, i simply pointed out a flaw in your argument. never claimed there weren't other, valid, points in favor of using them |
| 19:39.00 | Trancer | Nemes_: it also is spammy |
| 19:39.01 | hypetech | because quartz doesn't :p |
| 19:39.14 | Nemes_ | fair enough... |
| 19:39.33 | Trancer | there are so many options in DoTimer that make me "wtf" :X |
| 19:39.49 | Nemes_ | I'm talking about libraries such as STL and the like, not the dodgey off the shelf graph library that you license for $20 from the russian guy with no fixed domain |
| 19:39.53 | Peoii | hypetech: I've yet to find an addon that does reliably... Though I can honestly say I've not tried DoTimer |
| 19:40.46 | hypetech | nothing worse than looking up and seeing the scorch 5 stack disappear :( |
| 19:40.51 | strigoi | Nemes_ also I think dotimer was\is one of the very few add-ons which can handle buff\debuff filtering : like lets say i don't want totrack misery and shadow valnurability i just write it down in filtering list |
| 19:41.08 | mikma | so, what are the "fast heals" of Paladin and Druid? |
| 19:41.10 | kergoth | strigoi, you can do that in classtimer. |
| 19:41.11 | Peoii | hypetech: I hear that! and I'm in a guild of lazy ass mages, so I'm usually the only one maintaining that scorch :/ |
| 19:41.12 | Nemes_ | I got the shits when I was playing my shaman, and every single damned totem came up |
| 19:41.14 | Trancer | strigoi: and then you remove a debuff too many and have to remove it (that's horror) |
| 19:41.44 | Ominous | ClassTimer FTW :) ( from a completly unbiased point of view) |
| 19:42.00 | hypetech | does anybody know why my log files would be not getting written? |
| 19:42.04 | Peoii | Ominous: Add the ability to sync scorch debuffs from multiple players, and I'll love you for life :P |
| 19:42.05 | hypetech | I've used just plain /combatlog |
| 19:42.09 | hypetech | used AutoCL |
| 19:42.13 | strigoi | quartz \chrono couldn't handle this ... hmmm i think i tried classtimer but it was on very early pdevelopment stage |
| 19:42.18 | hypetech | it worked abotu a week ago, then just stopped working |
| 19:42.19 | Trancer | hypetech: because it doesn't write right away.. you need to wait a bit |
| 19:42.30 | Trancer | hypetech: after /combatlog to stop it, that is |
| 19:42.35 | Trancer | or logout/close wow |
| 19:42.37 | hypetech | ya |
| 19:42.39 | hypetech | I have |
| 19:42.40 | Peoii | Ominous: cause right now, scorch only shows if I get one of the first 5 off, and then disappears after 30 seconds regardless :/ |
| 19:42.50 | hypetech | after I stop the logging, I'll reload then exit |
| 19:42.51 | hypetech | nothing |
| 19:43.07 | hypetech | and sometimes, the file will be there, and then it just disappears |
| 19:44.46 | strigoi | Nemes_ ah i know 1 feature i really miss from Dotimer in classtimer... Dotimer has a feature where you can track short buffs on you, thats very important for me since i use Darkmoon card crusade and have to check buff duration on me |
| 19:45.06 | Ominous | you can add any buff you want |
| 19:45.08 | strigoi | i don't think class timer can handle this, only through /focus frame |
| 19:45.21 | strigoi | hmm |
| 19:45.33 | Nemes_ | fair enough strigoi... my main is a priest and I gave up on it 'cause I was really only tracking SW:P and renew |
| 19:45.46 | Fisker- | http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2114557,00.html |
| 19:45.48 | Fisker- | THIS IS MADNESS |
| 19:46.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42427 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - change the Focus localization |
| 19:46.47 | Nemes_ | are you british Fisker? how to these record companies react to the bbc website allowing free downloads? |
| 19:47.04 | strigoi | Nemes damn now i want to try classtimers one more time ;D |
| 19:47.07 | Peoii | Ominous: Yea, I saw that, but Fire Vulnerability is already there, it's just not working in the way that makes it truely functional... which I fear would require a lot more than is currently in the code. |
| 19:47.22 | Nemes_ | you know you want to... |
| 19:50.26 | Fisker- | nahuh Nemes_ |
| 19:50.46 | phyber | ckknight: I don't see the Raid Targets in CowTip either. something very strange with that stuff |
| 19:51.00 | ckknight | works for me |
| 19:51.17 | phyber | nothing special in the SavedVars either that would screw it up, from an old version, etc. |
| 19:52.10 | Iceroth | meh, omen isn't really shining at hydross tonight, tank's aggro is nowhere near where it should be |
| 19:52.20 | phyber | ckknight: got it ;) |
| 19:52.24 | phyber | ManaPerc breaks things :p |
| 19:54.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | <Nemes_> fair enough strigoi... my main is a priest and I gave up on it 'cause I was really only tracking SW:P and renew <-- tracking? |
| 19:54.41 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh for buffs |
| 19:54.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | so i've been using aguf for a while and i really like it |
| 19:55.04 | RaydenUnicyclist | i just installed pitbull to see what it's like |
| 19:55.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | i can't figure out how to change the vertical size of the frames |
| 19:55.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | i can adjust life, mana, casting bar |
| 19:55.25 | ckknight | Other -> Size -> Height |
| 19:55.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | but they don't change the overall size |
| 19:55.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | ok |
| 19:55.54 | Nemes_ | sorry... was doing that stupid apex emmanations quest... |
| 19:56.15 | Nemes_ | those settings change the relative size |
| 19:56.47 | Nemes_ | hey ckknight... seeing as how you like things in SVN being hackable, are you cool for small changes to pitbull, like buff ranks etc? |
| 19:56.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/01/addon-spotlight-pitbull/ |
| 19:56.56 | ckknight | oh yea, Nemes_ |
| 19:57.15 | Nemes_ | sweet... I'll be poking when I get around to it then :-) |
| 19:57.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | and can you change group growth direction and scale? |
| 19:57.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | i didn't see that right away |
| 19:57.30 | Nemes_ | gratz ckknight... recognised by mainstream media |
| 19:57.58 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:58.02 | RaydenUnicyclist | i think installing pitbull reset my bonzai aggro settings although i could have just installed the latest update |
| 19:58.09 | ckknight | RaydenUnicyclist: Other -> Grouping |
| 19:58.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | my audio notifier was back to the annoying female voice |
| 19:58.57 | ckknight | RaydenUnicyclist: shouldn't've done that... |
| 19:59.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | i probably installed the latest update to bonzai then |
| 20:00.33 | ckknight | Banzai |
| 20:00.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 20:02.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | so pitbull adds several other frames |
| 20:02.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | i didn't look at it too closely, does it let you specify a group member's target? |
| 20:02.32 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:02.33 | RaydenUnicyclist | like group member 3's target? |
| 20:02.37 | ckknight | party targets are in by default |
| 20:02.41 | RaydenUnicyclist | so i could always see the tank's target? |
| 20:02.45 | ckknight | yep. |
| 20:02.50 | RaydenUnicyclist | that's nice |
| 20:02.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | something i've been wanting for a while |
| 20:03.00 | ckknight | main tank targets and main tank target targets are in by default as well (in a raid setting) |
| 20:03.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | you have to specify main tank somewhere? |
| 20:03.28 | ckknight | yea, either with Blizz's system or with oRA/CTRA |
| 20:03.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | cool |
| 20:03.58 | Nemes_ | lol you were grumpy about using CTRA style at first ckknight |
| 20:04.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | i haven't played with it yet, but the interact lines sound interesting |
| 20:04.11 | ckknight | Nemes_: meh |
| 20:04.21 | ckknight | too busy for me, I don't use it |
| 20:04.29 | Nemes_ | your reasons were sound, but standards are just too hard to change |
| 20:05.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | well i guess i ought to go play with it |
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| 20:09.36 | Dustwhisper | hoi |
| 20:09.42 | Dustwhisper | what's the /command to set a raid icon on a target? |
| 20:09.54 | Nemes_ | lol dustwhisper... there isn't one |
| 20:10.03 | Nemes_ | bind a key - I use ctrl-1 ctrl-2 etc |
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| 20:10.07 | Dustwhisper | meh |
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| 20:10.30 | Nemes_ | if only there was a /command to target a particular icon... would make life so much easier for damage dealers |
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| 20:13.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | pitbull looks nice |
| 20:13.13 | Kenichi | hey anyone know of a shared calendar mod to help with raid schedules |
| 20:13.23 | Kenichi | i.e. *subscribe to raid* |
| 20:13.24 | RaydenUnicyclist | but i can't think of a killer feature to make it configure it instead of using aguf still |
| 20:13.58 | Nemes_ | the feature that won me was debuff / buff highlighting and notifications, but I'm a healer |
| 20:14.20 | ckknight | RaydenUnicyclist: config mode |
| 20:14.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | my main is a priest |
| 20:14.24 | RaydenUnicyclist | config mode? |
| 20:14.31 | ckknight | RaydenUnicyclist: yea, turn on configuration mode |
| 20:14.35 | Chompers | trash in void reavers room sucks balls |
| 20:14.42 | Chompers | its...eaugh |
| 20:14.50 | RaydenUnicyclist | what does that do? |
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| 20:15.06 | Nemes_ | and rayden... some legendary person put in an option to highlight the buffs that you cast, so that you can easily see which renews are yours ;-) |
| 20:15.14 | [dRaCo] | you can configure your raid frames without being in an raid, e.g. |
| 20:15.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | ooh |
| 20:15.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh that makes sense |
| 20:15.29 | [dRaCo] | same for party |
| 20:15.34 | Ominous | argh having trouble getting wow to run on linux |
| 20:15.47 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'll mess with it some more |
| 20:15.51 | Nemes_ | ouch Ominous... I wouldn't even like to try that |
| 20:15.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | are there the same controls over buff icons? |
| 20:16.11 | ckknight | yea, the buff filtering in PitBull is much more advanced than other mods |
| 20:16.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | it showed my buffs and debuffs with some space between them |
| 20:16.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | i couldn't figure out how to change that distance |
| 20:16.23 | ckknight | RaydenUnicyclist: there's a bunch of options. |
| 20:16.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | k |
| 20:16.35 | Nemes_ | the split option is what you're after |
| 20:16.55 | strigoi | Dustwhisper /script SetRaidTarget("target",1); |
| 20:17.00 | Dustwhisper | thx! |
| 20:17.00 | strigoi | i think that should help |
| 20:17.15 | Nemes_ | that marks does it? |
| 20:17.30 | strigoi | yep |
| 20:17.32 | strigoi | with star |
| 20:17.49 | Nemes_ | nice... is there a way to target the star? |
| 20:18.23 | ckknight | nope |
| 20:18.23 | strigoi | you wish! |
| 20:18.23 | strigoi | :( |
| 20:18.29 | Nemes_ | lol |
| 20:18.45 | strigoi | make an addon plix:) |
| 20:18.51 | strigoi | that lists marked targets:) |
| 20:19.13 | nymbia | unpossible |
| 20:19.17 | nymbia | or rather |
| 20:19.21 | nymbia | unpossible in combat |
| 20:19.22 | strigoi | it is i think |
| 20:19.27 | strigoi | ah ye |
| 20:19.30 | strigoi | thats true :( |
| 20:19.31 | Nemes_ | what's everyone's opinion about the locked down frames? I had a lot of trouble coding an addon so that when you click on a statusbar it targets a unit... I had to use a transparent secure frame over the top... |
| 20:19.33 | dylanm | You couldn't make it interactive though, right? |
| 20:20.17 | strigoi | nymbia but it would be still great for OOC setting targets up |
| 20:21.29 | Gandharva | Kemayo: I tried to fix the friendlist update problem in AuldLangSyne by adding ShowFriends() in Fu:OnTooltipUpdate(). But its seems this is called way to often -.- |
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| 20:22.09 | ckknight | Nemes_: yea, they suck donkey balls. |
| 20:22.48 | Nemes_ | any thoughts on how they could have implemented it better? |
| 20:22.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | ok |
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| 20:23.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | on my own unitframe, buffs are displayed below the frame |
| 20:23.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | on the target they are displayed on the right |
| 20:23.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | how do i change that? |
| 20:23.36 | [dRaCo] | ctrl alt rightclick the frame |
| 20:23.36 | Nemes_ | go to the Aura options in the target frame |
| 20:23.48 | [dRaCo] | auras --> position |
| 20:23.56 | Nemes_ | then change the "side" i.e. position of the buffs |
| 20:24.47 | RaydenUni | oh i found it |
| 20:25.03 | RaydenUni | what is ctrl alt right click? |
| 20:25.09 | RaydenUni | how is it different from alt right click? |
| 20:25.30 | [dRaCo] | nothing |
| 20:25.33 | Mikk | clicks are getting farfetched... ctrl alt right |
| 20:25.55 | Nemes_ | any modified click on a pitbull or ag unit frame will bring up it's menu |
| 20:26.04 | Nemes_ | modified = shift, ctrl or alt |
| 20:26.05 | [dRaCo] | I'm using alt right for some healing spell |
| 20:26.32 | [dRaCo] | so I have to use some unused modifiers |
| 20:26.44 | RaydenUni | i think i found a bug |
| 20:26.50 | RaydenUni | i'm in solo configuration |
| 20:26.58 | RaydenUni | i disabled a frame and it switched to normal config |
| 20:27.14 | ckknight | yea, then switch back to config mode |
| 20:27.21 | ckknight | if something drastic changes, it'll opt out |
| 20:27.23 | Mikk | CombatParrot ftw! |
| 20:27.28 | ckknight | Mikk: Sausage |
| 20:27.30 | Mikk | (if it matters =)) |
| 20:27.35 | Nemes_ | <sigh> |
| 20:27.57 | Nemes_ | "where were you when they came up with the saussage name, nemes?" I was not present |
| 20:28.30 | RaydenUni | seems like disabling a frame is something you'd often want to do in config :P |
| 20:28.31 | Mikk | Ah yeah, ofc, Sausage. I forget. If there's any way to guess what an addon does from its description, it's a bad name :P |
| 20:28.40 | RaydenUni | what is the difference between focus and target? |
| 20:28.49 | Mikk | they're two different things |
| 20:28.50 | Nemes_ | hrmm... 'cause combatparrot is very obvious |
| 20:28.53 | Mikk | you can focus one unit |
| 20:28.54 | Chompers | Sausage > *.* |
| 20:28.54 | Mikk | and target another unit |
| 20:28.59 | ckknight | and Sausage isn't, Nemes_? |
| 20:29.23 | Mikk | and your spell buttons can shoot at either target (the default) or focus (if you make a macro) |
| 20:29.28 | RaydenUni | how do you focus a unit? |
| 20:29.34 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.42 | Mikk | mages like to have their sheep button act on their focus |
| 20:29.44 | Nemes_ | bind a key rayden - one key to set the focus to your current target, another to change your target to the focus |
| 20:29.49 | Mikk | so they can just doink sheep whenever without clicking around |
| 20:29.59 | Nemes_ | rayden is a priest... use it for shackling during moroes or something |
| 20:30.11 | RaydenUni | so it's just a 2nd "target" |
| 20:30.11 | Nemes_ | or if you're healing a mage during HKM, set the mage as your focus |
| 20:30.21 | Mikk | RaydenUni: basicall yeah |
| 20:30.37 | RaydenUni | is there a modifier key to cast on focus? |
| 20:30.38 | Mikk | The uses for healing purposes are certainly limited |
| 20:30.57 | RaydenUni | seems like you could make the tank your focus so you could always heal him... |
| 20:31.04 | Nemes_ | it took me a full month to discover focus; as a priest you just don't have much need |
| 20:31.15 | RaydenUni | no use as a rogue is there? |
| 20:31.35 | Mikk | RaydenUni: focussing your sapped unit so you can see when the sap wears off |
| 20:31.45 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 20:31.50 | Nemes_ | or you can focus a unit that's not being beaten down, but needs spell interruptions |
| 20:31.51 | Mikk | not that woohoo, no |
| 20:31.53 | Killmore | focus shakle undead = kick ass |
| 20:31.58 | Mikk | Nemes_: good one |
| 20:32.01 | RaydenUni | so you have to set some key to focus? |
| 20:32.10 | RaydenUni | target a unit, set it to focus, then you can target other stuff? |
| 20:32.16 | Mikk | yes |
| 20:32.23 | Nemes_ | play around rayden... you'll get the hang of it |
| 20:32.35 | Nemes_ | the keybindings are terribly named too: focus target and target focus |
| 20:32.58 | RaydenUni | shouldn't it be target target? |
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| 20:33.19 | Nemes_ | heh... have a play around and it will make sense |
| 20:33.59 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 20:34.02 | Nemes_ | does the standard blizzard UI even have a focus frame? |
| 20:34.07 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 20:34.12 | Gnarfoz | karazhan cleared in 5h20min :D |
| 20:34.22 | ckknight | Nemes_: no, which is absurd |
| 20:34.36 | [dRaCo] | complete? including that stupid random critter boss? ;þ |
| 20:34.37 | Nemes_ | it doesn't make much sense without a frame to me... |
| 20:35.09 | Nemes_ | perhaps the intended purpose of focus was something different? |
| 20:35.24 | [dRaCo] | you can still use it for cc |
| 20:35.24 | Nemes_ | LOL I've never seen the random critter boss |
| 20:35.32 | Nemes_ | took one look at the loot and said no |
| 20:35.56 | Gnarfoz | [dRaCo]: nah, didn't do that one |
| 20:36.53 | [dRaCo] | gratz anyway, 5h is great |
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| 20:38.10 | RaydenUni | um |
| 20:38.12 | Anmoch | hi... since the web server is so slow, mind if i report a bug in pitbull here? |
| 20:38.17 | RaydenUni | so what is focust target and target focus? |
| 20:38.28 | RaydenUni | one sets it and one brings it back? |
| 20:38.29 | Nemes_ | play with it rayden |
| 20:38.39 | RaydenUni | blast, now i need 2 more keys |
| 20:38.44 | Nemes_ | I can't even remember... try them out and see which one does what ;-) |
| 20:39.18 | Punkie` | ckknight: You have to call your damage text addon Noodle! |
| 20:39.33 | Anmoch | i'm running "PitBull - Updated to rev WITH Externals 42341.3", and if i'm in combat and unshift cat (so i'm caster again), pitbull_spark errors at Spark.lua:52 saying that energy_lasttick is 'nil' |
| 20:39.35 | ckknight | but the Sausages |
| 20:39.37 | ckknight | .... |
| 20:39.54 | Punkie` | terrible name, noodle is way more suited! |
| 20:40.06 | ckknight | how's that? |
| 20:40.14 | ckknight | I prefer sausage over noodle |
| 20:40.19 | [dRaCo] | Noodle's great. Everybody likes noodles |
| 20:40.20 | ckknight | noodle is too limp-wristed |
| 20:40.28 | Punkie` | now now! |
| 20:40.32 | ckknight | and just limp in general |
| 20:40.38 | Punkie` | noodle is clearly win |
| 20:40.57 | starlon | ck wants it hard and stiff |
| 20:41.27 | Nemes_ | I'm still a fan of CombatParrot, but mr "parrot is a perl interpreter" said no... |
| 20:41.48 | ckknight | I dunno, Parrot is doable... |
| 20:41.56 | ckknight | I still like Sausage, though |
| 20:42.09 | [dRaCo] | FloatingSausageText |
| 20:42.12 | Nemes_ | lol |
| 20:42.27 | RaydenUni | can you cast spells on focus without targeting them? |
| 20:42.33 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 20:42.38 | dylanm | RaydenUni: Yes. |
| 20:42.47 | [dRaCo] | /cast [target=focus] BAM! |
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| 20:42.58 | RaydenUni | so there isn't some key modifier for it? |
| 20:43.05 | Punkie` | I just ditched SCT and added my own custom events to floating battle text |
| 20:43.08 | dylanm | RaydenUni: Make a macro like /cast [target=focus] Fireball |
| 20:43.24 | RaydenUni | but no way to do it for any spell? |
| 20:43.28 | RaydenUni | like alt is for yourself |
| 20:43.40 | [dRaCo] | /cast [modifier] [target=focus] BAM!; BAM! |
| 20:43.45 | [dRaCo] | something like that |
| 20:44.08 | dylanm | I think he wants it automatic? Seems like that should be doable if we have these Alt-click-to-self-cast mods. |
| 20:44.46 | sag_ich_nicht | no don't |
| 20:44.50 | [dRaCo] | codeable, ofc, but I don't know any addon that does that |
| 20:47.10 | [dRaCo] | noticed what? |
| 20:47.23 | Anmoch | pitbull, bug and all |
| 20:47.35 | ckknight | no |
| 20:47.43 | Anmoch | btw there's a comment in Spark.lua saying "make sure it knows we just cast a spell shifting out (that does stop regen, right?)" |
| 20:47.46 | Anmoch | it doesn't |
| 20:47.50 | Anmoch | it's just canceling an aura |
| 20:48.09 | Anmoch | <Anmoch> hi... since the web server is so slow, mind if i report a bug in pitbull here? |
| 20:48.12 | Anmoch | <Anmoch> i'm running "PitBull - Updated to rev WITH Externals 42341.3", and if i'm in combat and unshift cat (so i'm caster again), pitbull_spark errors at Spark.lua:52 saying that energy_lasttick is 'nil' |
| 20:50.08 | RaydenUni | why does pitbull default to HUGE?! |
| 20:50.52 | RaydenUni | sweet |
| 20:50.59 | RaydenUni | i tried to enable Combat Fader and it crashed wow |
| 20:51.20 | ckknight | Anmoch: not sure how it could've done that... |
| 20:51.25 | Nemes_ | combat fader is nice eyecandy, but it doesn't add any value IMO |
| 20:51.42 | Anmoch | ckknight: i'm currently at gruul, i can help with testing afterwards if you are so inclined and require a druid |
| 20:52.00 | ckknight | perhaps |
| 20:52.10 | RaydenUni | nooooo |
| 20:52.13 | RaydenUni | all my settings weren't saved |
| 20:52.31 | Anmoch | ckknight: and while i'm here, you deserve huge praise, pitbull does several things Right(tm), most importantly the fixed sizes and variable partition |
| 20:52.40 | ckknight | :-) |
| 20:52.56 | RaydenUni | is there a way to set the height of all frames? |
| 20:53.08 | dylanm | RaydenUni: Haha yeah that's fun when that happens. |
| 20:53.12 | Jagobah | I still like AGUF :( |
| 20:53.21 | dylanm | RaydenUni: I believe in the "Settings for all frames" menu there's a Size option in Other. |
| 20:53.44 | Nemes_ | ckknight: did you ever get resolution on that wow crashing issue? |
| 20:54.01 | Nemes_ | or did they just say they were looking at it and never responded? |
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| 20:54.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42428 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull_Spark - no longer nil any values |
| 20:54.26 | ckknight | fixed in 2.1.3 |
| 20:54.47 | ckknight | RaydenUni: yea, go to the PitBull menu, under All Frames |
| 20:54.48 | Nemes_ | nice |
| 20:54.52 | ckknight | Anmoch: k, test that |
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| 20:56.44 | stavmar_ | anyone having issues crafting more than two items at a time, I use manufac and tell it to make 10 bandages, it makes two and then it stops? Any ideas? |
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| 20:57.09 | Gnarfoz | is there an easy way to export all errors caught by BugSack? got quite some during karazhan, for different addons |
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| 20:57.48 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: They're saved to the BugGrabber SVs. |
| 20:57.53 | Bam__ | I have a bit of trouble doing things in my addon's OnEnable method... it seems not everything is ready yet... is there a recommended way to "wait" for things like modules being enabled and such? |
| 20:58.15 | ckknight | Bam__: AceEvent_FullyInitialized is one way |
| 20:58.15 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: k, that's easy then, thanks |
| 20:58.48 | Bam__ | ckknight: oh.. but does it say anything about my addon's own modules? |
| 20:59.11 | ckknight | no |
| 21:00.14 | Bam__ | I will try it anyway |
| 21:00.52 | RaydenUni | found another bug |
| 21:01.00 | RaydenUni | i can't switch to solo config now |
| 21:01.02 | RaydenUni | only party :D |
| 21:01.04 | wowzers | Howdy. What controls when the major portion of the version string is bumped? I notice that a lot of mods have the minor version string bumped at nearly the same time (like someone or something is doing a mass commit). |
| 21:01.51 | ckknight | RaydenUni: are you in a party? |
| 21:02.04 | RaydenUni | oh yeah i am |
| 21:02.13 | RaydenUni | if you are in a party it doesn't let you set solo config? |
| 21:02.29 | ckknight | no, wouldn't make sense |
| 21:02.36 | ckknight | cause how would you hide the party frames? |
| 21:02.37 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:02.43 | RaydenUni | i guess |
| 21:02.47 | Bam__ | should the UI in general be ready when AceEvent_FullyInitialized is fired? |
| 21:03.07 | Bam__ | sizing, position and stuff like that |
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| 21:04.28 | strigoi | can anyone tell me how exactly does violation count DPS |
| 21:04.44 | [dRaCo] | highest 4 seconds burst, afaik |
| 21:04.50 | [dRaCo] | check the faq |
| 21:05.35 | hypetech | how does sw_stats count it? |
| 21:05.47 | strigoi | the values i get from violation are kinda different to ones from sws\assessment |
| 21:05.52 | Chompers | void reaver: i'm melee, are there any tricks i should know to void his pounding? |
| 21:06.00 | [dRaCo] | dmg/time in combat |
| 21:06.42 | starlon | Chompers, easy. Stand at max melee, 2 seconds before the pounding back up 5 feet. |
| 21:07.01 | hypetech | joust ftw |
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| 21:07.26 | hypetech | although. if you have a priest with circle of healing, he can keep you up through the poundings and you'll never have to step away |
| 21:07.28 | hypetech | that's how we did it |
| 21:08.54 | hypetech | anybody know if WWS has an IRC channel anywhere? |
| 21:08.57 | Antiarc | Afternoon folks |
| 21:09.10 | hypetech | what's up antiarc |
| 21:10.55 | Antiarc | Not a whole lot. Just got home. |
| 21:11.17 | Killmore | Antiarc! |
| 21:11.34 | ckknight | omg Antiarc |
| 21:13.47 | Antiarc | :O |
| 21:14.12 | strigoi | [dRaCo] thanks that makes sence |
| 21:15.33 | Chompers | starlon: just realised that, thanks :) |
| 21:16.01 | Chompers | there's a 'sweet spot' where you only need to move a few steps to be out of range |
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| 21:20.39 | inph | Chompers are you a rogue? |
| 21:21.31 | bigzero | anyone have any idea what script gets called when auto looting? |
| 21:22.19 | ckknight | hey |
| 21:22.25 | ckknight | I need advice wrt PitBull auras |
| 21:22.26 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/70176 |
| 21:22.28 | ckknight | take a look |
| 21:22.44 | hypetech | keylogger |
| 21:22.52 | hypetech | err |
| 21:22.55 | hypetech | I was close |
| 21:22.55 | hypetech | wetf |
| 21:23.01 | Tornhoof | i use the 6+6 case |
| 21:23.51 | ckknight | well, actually, the plan is to have that be what it'll look like |
| 21:24.00 | Tornhoof | i'd like to have columns |
| 21:24.01 | ckknight | and the numbers are based on how many buffs/debuffs one has |
| 21:24.16 | ckknight | maybe later |
| 21:25.18 | Anmoch | ckknight: i've been testing for the last 15min or so... is /console reloadui enough after updating just Spark.lua? |
| 21:25.31 | ckknight | Anmoch: /rl is an alias |
| 21:25.37 | ckknight | Anmoch: but yes |
| 21:25.56 | Anmoch | hmm that is _very_ strange |
| 21:26.37 | Anmoch | i cannot reproduce the earlier bug... unfortunately i can't test at gruul any more ;) |
| 21:27.08 | Anmoch | but what's stranger |
| 21:27.20 | Anmoch | when i shift from cat and e.g. lifebloom myself, it doesn't show a 5sec spark |
| 21:27.27 | Anmoch | only the second cast after unshifting does |
| 21:29.39 | bigzero | any way to find out a calling function for a function? |
| 21:32.02 | Antiarc | debugstack() |
| 21:32.09 | strigoi | hmm if violation parses data which sent by SWS, shouldn't the values be exactly the same if everyone in raid use sws and i'm using violation? |
| 21:32.18 | ilifin | http://www.bash.org/?777977 three cheers for anonymous |
| 21:32.37 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42429 10VanasKoS/ (5 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: use sharedmedialib for kos-detection sound configuration, added another (awesome) sound |
| 21:33.37 | ckknight | lol, ilifin |
| 21:33.53 | ilifin | he's my new hero |
| 21:34.22 | ckknight | that is priceless |
| 21:35.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:35.08 | nevcairiel | so great |
| 21:35.08 | ckknight | so |
| 21:35.12 | ckknight | Sausage or Parrot? |
| 21:35.26 | ckknight | Parrot goes with the animal theme |
| 21:35.33 | ckknight | as well as having more to do with the addon] |
| 21:35.35 | trh_ | why the fuck do kids run in supermarkets around and *bite* people? |
| 21:35.38 | ilifin | for what ckknight |
| 21:35.38 | Hjalte | I'd say Parrot. Sausage is really disgusting. |
| 21:35.46 | trh_ | i mean running around stupidly, getting on your nerves, sure |
| 21:35.49 | trh_ | but biting? |
| 21:35.49 | Hjalte | Parrot is fun |
| 21:35.53 | ckknight | ilifin: SCT clone |
| 21:36.00 | ilifin | oh |
| 21:36.09 | ilifin | why sausage? |
| 21:36.15 | ckknight | because it's manly |
| 21:36.19 | ckknight | and absurd. |
| 21:36.20 | trh_ | ckknight: Parrot |
| 21:36.27 | ilifin | go with Umbrella |
| 21:36.28 | ckknight | yea, let's just go with Parrot |
| 21:36.31 | ckknight | sorry, Chompers |
| 21:36.38 | ilifin | since your screen gets flooded |
| 21:36.50 | trh_ | ckknight: although Manitee would be nice too ;) |
| 21:37.01 | ckknight | I need an icon for Parrot |
| 21:37.01 | trh_ | err.. manatee |
| 21:37.19 | ilifin | ckknight - step one, go to deadmines, hope for a parrot drop |
| 21:37.22 | ilifin | step two, screenshot it |
| 21:37.29 | Keias | What are you making now? |
| 21:37.32 | ilifin | step three, pull it through a emboss filter |
| 21:37.33 | Antiarc | Or just pull out the parrot icon. |
| 21:37.38 | ilifin | boring Antiarc |
| 21:37.47 | ilifin | just use the moonkin icon then ;_; |
| 21:38.02 | ckknight | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=8492 |
| 21:38.11 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/images/icons/large/spell_nature_forceofnature.jpg |
| 21:38.12 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 21:38.19 | ckknight | Keias: SCT clone |
| 21:38.23 | Keias | Ahh |
| 21:38.28 | Keias | Will it have grouping options like MSBT? |
| 21:38.30 | Sole | hello |
| 21:38.36 | Keias | hi Sole |
| 21:38.42 | Sole | is ck working on a combat text addon now? |
| 21:38.48 | ckknight | Sole: apparently |
| 21:38.53 | ckknight | Keias: grouping options? |
| 21:38.58 | Sole | you're going to control my WoW soon |
| 21:39.03 | Keias | um, lemme find a correct term to use for it |
| 21:39.18 | Sole | man oh man sometimes I hate coders |
| 21:39.28 | ckknight | Manifest destiny, Sole |
| 21:39.36 | ckknight | why do you hate coders? |
| 21:39.45 | Sole | some faggot got winbjt32 on my comp and I cant get it out and now my services.exe is crashing when Im not in safe mode |
| 21:39.54 | Sole | when services.exe crashes windows wants to shut down |
| 21:40.01 | Sole | so Im chillin in safe mode |
| 21:40.08 | Sole | trying to find a solution besides formatting |
| 21:40.08 | nadas | hmm, anyone know if there's a way to create a set in closetgnome while in combat? :) |
| 21:40.18 | Sole | nadas: leave combat :P |
| 21:40.20 | trh_ | Sole: start in safe mode and delete the file? |
| 21:40.24 | nadas | that's the problem |
| 21:40.25 | Sole | trh_: wont work |
| 21:40.33 | trh_ | Sole: repair console and delete the file? |
| 21:41.08 | Sole | the problem is the virus manifests |
| 21:42.08 | Keias | ckknight: MSBT has an option to merge AoE data into one event with cumulative damage/healing done with number of normal and crits specified. |
| 21:42.16 | Keias | So the display isn't as spammy |
| 21:42.20 | ckknight | well, clearly |
| 21:42.26 | ckknight | a throttle system would be nice |
| 21:42.29 | ckknight | for DoTs, too |
| 21:42.32 | durcyn | not just aoe, it merges similar events based on time |
| 21:42.38 | Keias | Yeah, thats what makes me use MSBT over other SCTs |
| 21:42.40 | ckknight | show the DoT aggregation every 0.2 seconds or so |
| 21:42.52 | Keias | Seed of Corruption in a big AOE pull = wall o'text on my screen |
| 21:43.13 | Sole | I got a solution to that |
| 21:43.16 | Sole | delete your lock |
| 21:43.21 | Sole | because locks are gay |
| 21:43.28 | Keias | Well I kinda did that already Sole :P |
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| 21:43.32 | Keias | And rolled my 4th warrior |
| 21:43.37 | hypetech | argh. I can't fecking figure out why my fecking log files keep disappearing for /combatlog =( |
| 21:43.38 | jwwpua | anyone use SanityBags? |
| 21:43.42 | Keias | But HoTs while tanking spam up my screen also |
| 21:43.47 | Sole | LOOKATME I got 13k health and my main form of damage doesnt give a shit about resilience |
| 21:44.06 | nevcairiel | too bad |
| 21:44.08 | Sole | Keias: warriors are gay too |
| 21:44.20 | Keias | I like tanking too much to play other classes |
| 21:44.25 | Keias | Can't stand to raid DPS |
| 21:44.31 | Sole | Protection warriors are cool |
| 21:44.35 | jwwpua | or Sanity2? |
| 21:44.38 | nevcairiel | Sole: one thing ive noticed with gladiator, its never showing team rating/rank for me. nor possible setup. whats up with that ? :P |
| 21:44.39 | starlon | Fury? |
| 21:45.08 | Sole | the "I hit you 3 times and you go dead" warriors are no fun |
| 21:45.14 | Chompers | arms 4 lyfe etc |
| 21:45.15 | strigoi | ckknight make it as module plix C:) |
| 21:45.34 | Sole | nevcairiel: Gladiator is a bit fucked, Im gonna rewrite it as soon as my computer stops turning itself off everytime I log on :P |
| 21:45.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:45.47 | nevcairiel | everythign else works fine |
| 21:45.47 | Sole | I didnt really plan for some of the features it has |
| 21:46.01 | Sole | yeah but I dont like the way it looks |
| 21:46.04 | Sole | its a big clusterfuck right now |
| 21:46.15 | ckknight | Strigoi: make what as module? |
| 21:46.19 | nevcairiel | hp display etc, even talent display. . only rating etc is broken :) |
| 21:46.28 | nevcairiel | i love being able to click-target :p |
| 21:46.31 | nevcairiel | on the bars |
| 21:46.31 | Sole | health display is fine? |
| 21:46.41 | nevcairiel | most of the time |
| 21:46.42 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:46.46 | Sole | you mean it doesnt do that thing where sometimes it jumps to < 1% health? |
| 21:46.47 | Antiarc | jwwpua: I've heard of them. What's up? |
| 21:46.50 | hypetech | do I have to be killing a certain thing, or be in a party, or be in a certain place or something for /combatlog to keep a log file? |
| 21:46.56 | nevcairiel | didnt notice yet :o |
| 21:47.03 | ckknight | oh yea, I want to add an Orwellian anti-privacy system to AceComm where it will allow talent queries. Anyone have a huge issue with this (outside being out of scope)? |
| 21:47.04 | Sole | hmm |
| 21:47.13 | Antiarc | ckknight: It's out of scope. :P |
| 21:47.21 | Antiarc | ckknight: I'd say make it an oRA2 module |
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| 21:47.27 | ckknight | Antiarc: I don't use oRA2 |
| 21:47.29 | nevcairiel | everyone could query my talents? |
| 21:47.31 | ckknight | a lot of people don't |
| 21:47.34 | ckknight | yea, nevcairiel |
| 21:47.42 | ckknight | just like they can query your addons now |
| 21:47.48 | Sole | nevcairiel: I think I know why |
| 21:47.50 | nevcairiel | i wouldve to create a local hack of AceComm to disable that |
| 21:47.53 | Sole | nevcairiel: the Tattle data is from season 1 |
| 21:47.54 | jwwpua | Antiarc: i'm using the latest SanityBags, and it shows 66/80 bag slots used, but only shows 4 empty bag slots instead of 14 |
| 21:47.56 | ckknight | well, that is, anyone who knows how |
| 21:47.57 | Sole | most teams have a different name now |
| 21:48.01 | ckknight | which means not many people |
| 21:48.02 | Antiarc | I'd argue that it's way out of AceComm scope. I wouldn't be happy with it there just from a philosophical standpoint. |
| 21:48.03 | strigoi | ckknight was talking about throttle system you mentioned before |
| 21:48.04 | durcyn | already been done in RaidSpy |
| 21:48.04 | nevcairiel | Sole: i updated my battlegroup |
| 21:48.18 | ckknight | Antiarc: bah |
| 21:48.24 | Antiarc | jwwpua: It may still be counting the keyring. I'll check it out. |
| 21:48.27 | Sole | nevcairiel: well then its fucked ^_^ |
| 21:48.38 | ckknight | Strigoi: well, we'll see |
| 21:48.39 | Sole | just like my whole system |
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| 21:49.08 | Antiarc | ckknight: I hate the LOOT_OPENED AceComm message for the same reason :P |
| 21:49.17 | ckknight | that's Tekkub's doing |
| 21:49.22 | Antiarc | I know, but I still hate it! |
| 21:49.32 | ckknight | *shrug |
| 21:49.34 | nevcairiel | why was it kept in anyway? |
| 21:49.36 | ckknight | * |
| 21:49.37 | jwwpua | Antiarc: i have 5 16-slots tho, so 80 is correct. it's just not showing me 10 of the free slots I have |
| 21:49.39 | ckknight | nevcairiel: no idea |
| 21:49.47 | Antiarc | jwwpua: Okay. I'll check it out. |
| 21:49.56 | jwwpua | Antiarc: aight cool |
| 21:49.56 | nevcairiel | that addonlist querying is way out of scope too |
| 21:50.12 | nevcairiel | AceComm itself shouldnt do anything like that at all |
| 21:50.12 | ckknight | meh, I like it |
| 21:50.17 | Antiarc | Make an AceOrwell addon and bundle it with Ace? :P |
| 21:50.19 | nevcairiel | just provide the comm lib |
| 21:50.23 | Sole | can anybody recommend a good firewall and antivirus? |
| 21:50.27 | ckknight | Antiarc: bundling? |
| 21:50.30 | jwwpua | Antiarc: and about Sanity2, is it possible to show the # on the icons always? sometimes it shows ".." |
| 21:50.35 | Antiarc | Well, package it as part of Ace2. |
| 21:50.47 | Sole | Im using panda for my AV and its a bit intrusive and I dont like the fact that it runs 3+ seperate processes |
| 21:50.52 | Antiarc | jwwpua: That's a width issue. If you increase the icon size it should allow more numbers to be shown. |
| 21:50.53 | nevcairiel | Sole: i use the NOD32 antivirus, not sure about firewall .. i use a linux firewall on my net connection for that |
| 21:50.54 | ckknight | a lot of users use embedded |
| 21:50.59 | Antiarc | Antivir for me |
| 21:51.22 | ckknight | the main point of having the addon querying in AceComm was because everyone was supposed to have it without hassles of needing to install another addon |
| 21:51.24 | Sole | NOD32 sounds cool - reminds me of CnC |
| 21:51.30 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:51.31 | jwwpua | Antiarc: ok, and can it show the total # when you have the option "Collapse multiple stacks" enabled? |
| 21:51.40 | Antiarc | Yeah, that's on the wishlist. |
| 21:52.30 | Antiarc | I understand that targeting AceComm would get the most people in one blow, but I just don't like it (not that I have any problem with talent-sharing, esp. with the armory available) |
| 21:53.12 | jwwpua | Antiarc: thanks |
| 21:53.34 | ckknight | but it'd make things so much simpler |
| 21:53.47 | ckknight | basically: I want to add talent querying to CowTip :-P |
| 21:53.56 | ravagernl | :o |
| 21:53.58 | strigoi | oO |
| 21:54.01 | ckknight | you know you want to see people's talent breakdown in their tooltip. |
| 21:54.25 | ckknight | you hover over the warrior, and you'd see, oh, he's Fury, let's go with the prot guy instead |
| 21:54.29 | strigoi | it will work for ppl with cowtip only i guess |
| 21:54.37 | ckknight | Strigoi: unless I put it in AceComm |
| 21:54.46 | ckknight | and set a standard |
| 21:55.00 | ckknight | which is more likely to reach pugs |
| 21:55.32 | ravagernl | how the heck are you going to implement that then, writing a dogtag function for tattle? |
| 21:55.42 | ckknight | ravagernl: another module |
| 21:56.16 | Antiarc | ckknight: Tattle already does that |
| 21:56.26 | ckknight | Antiarc: yes, but not on non-Arena people, right? |
| 21:56.32 | ckknight | or am I wrong in that assumption? |
| 21:56.33 | Antiarc | Oh, for groups and stuff |
| 21:56.38 | Antiarc | It shows you out of the arena |
| 21:56.46 | Antiarc | I hover over anyone and it gives me data if it has it anywhere |
| 21:56.49 | ckknight | also, Tattle does it based on data crunching |
| 21:56.50 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 21:56.55 | ckknight | rather than querying |
| 21:57.01 | nevcairiel | if i could query the talents of my arena enemys? |
| 21:57.03 | ckknight | which means you have a lot of extra data in memory |
| 21:57.05 | nevcairiel | if they are same faction |
| 21:57.11 | ckknight | nevcairiel: theoretically. |
| 21:57.22 | ckknight | though maybe they prevent whisper comm |
| 21:57.22 | Antiarc | Yes, but it is realm-specific and LOD, which helps |
| 21:57.32 | nevcairiel | you can use normal whisper |
| 21:57.32 | Antiarc | You can't query cross-faction |
| 21:57.36 | nevcairiel | not sure about addon whisper |
| 21:57.36 | Antiarc | Which is where it'd be most useful. |
| 21:57.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:54] <@ckknight> which is more likely to reach pugs |
| 21:57.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:55] <ravagernl> how the heck are you going to implement that then |
| 21:57.50 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 21:57.51 | ckknight | it'd be very useful with pugs as well |
| 21:57.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:54] <@ckknight> which is more likely to reach pugs <--want. |
| 21:58.04 | ravagernl | spam |
| 21:58.05 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 21:58.07 | ravagernl | :> |
| 21:58.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ravagernl it was scrolling while i was marking |
| 21:58.19 | sag_ich_nicht | thus bad copy paste |
| 21:58.19 | ckknight | I want to figure out why the damn warrior uses two 1hs and says he's prot |
| 21:58.19 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 21:58.24 | ckknight | and then oh, he's not actually prot |
| 21:58.28 | Antiarc | definitely useful with pugs, yes |
| 21:58.28 | ckknight | cause you can query |
| 21:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | or you just dual screen and armory him |
| 21:58.40 | ckknight | Antiarc: or inspect addons |
| 21:58.41 | Antiarc | ckknight: Perhaps a talent-grabber addon would be a less intrusive method |
| 21:58.43 | ravagernl | yeah I figured that out already sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:58.44 | ckknight | or anything |
| 21:58.52 | Antiarc | ie, if I see a war use Bloodthirst he's at least 31 fury. |
| 21:58.52 | ckknight | Antiarc: but who would install it? |
| 21:58.55 | kaiden | ravagernl, what do you have in works for a ui these days? :) |
| 21:58.59 | ckknight | think of normal players |
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| 21:59.03 | rubik | lots of prot warriors use two one-handed weapons for dps.. it's the only way we can "dps" |
| 21:59.09 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i think you could create a script that reads out the armory once a day |
| 21:59.10 | Antiarc | It's a passive observer, not a client-server thing |
| 21:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | and then saves it into a file |
| 21:59.22 | sag_ich_nicht | you could make an addon out of that |
| 21:59.30 | ckknight | rubik: either way, it's possible they lie about their spec |
| 21:59.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and provide the file on a per server base |
| 21:59.33 | nevcairiel | you cant list every player |
| 21:59.41 | rubik | ckknight: indeed.. got your point. (: |
| 21:59.42 | Antiarc | ckknight: Armory solves that though |
| 21:59.50 | ckknight | Antiarc: but you have to alt-tab |
| 21:59.57 | ckknight | which can be annoying/take too long |
| 21:59.59 | kaiden | armory is too slow and there needs to be API talent request calls |
| 22:00.01 | Antiarc | Not a big deal for me, personally, but I see that it'd be convenient. |
| 22:00.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:59] <nevcairiel> you cant list every player <--server x, search for a. server x. search for b. procceed to z. |
| 22:00.06 | Antiarc | kaiden: There are, kinda. |
| 22:00.08 | sag_ich_nicht | all players on that server listed |
| 22:00.09 | sag_ich_nicht | oh noes |
| 22:00.16 | nevcairiel | thats what basicly tattle does .. a script to scan armory, based on arena teams^^ |
| 22:00.19 | Antiarc | You can treat the Armory as a queryable database. |
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| 22:00.56 | ravagernl | I don't get it, you write wonderful addons ck, and you're lazy to alt tab to armory, how can you code addons when you're lazy :> |
| 22:01.06 | ckknight | ~laziness |
| 22:01.07 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 22:01.28 | Sole | Purl speaks truth |
| 22:01.29 | ravagernl | you're even too lazy to explain what laziness is |
| 22:01.39 | art3mis | have spurts of energy to save you energy in the long run is the hallmark of lethargy ;P |
| 22:02.16 | nevcairiel | the problem is, there are too many cases where you spent so much energy on solving a problem for the future, it takes forever to save that again :D |
| 22:02.22 | Srosh | the idea is interesting but the implementation sounds fishy |
| 22:02.32 | trh | actually.... who documents his addons? =) |
| 22:02.40 | Blime | With oRA2, when you issue a /ravote, is there anyway to place your yes/no vote? It always counts me as an AFKer. |
| 22:02.43 | Sole | < |
| 22:02.46 | art3mis | no-one in #wowace ;P |
| 22:03.01 | art3mis | hell even a readme for the commands is too difficult ;P |
| 22:03.04 | trh | hehe.. yea... except for kenco ;) |
| 22:03.24 | ckknight | I document my addons. |
| 22:03.30 | ckknight | at least if they're frameworks/libraries |
| 22:03.32 | ckknight | which most are |
| 22:03.42 | art3mis | code comments don't count heh |
| 22:03.45 | trh | hehe.. a undocumented library would be pretty much useless ;) |
| 22:03.52 | ravagernl | just document your addons ingame, people don't like to read big long wiki's :> |
| 22:04.04 | trh | (ok, graphlib is mostly undocumented but very useful, but that just proves the poitn ;) |
| 22:04.09 | art3mis | wiki's are the scourge of knowledge! |
| 22:04.14 | ravagernl | but yea, for libraries wiki is the way to go ofc |
| 22:04.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42430 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0 - don't show the donate button in the about box if .donate doesn't exist. |
| 22:05.35 | Srosh | no, wikis are the drain of knowledge! |
| 22:07.44 | CIA-22 | 03eblume * r42431 10GuildMail/ (. libs/): |
| 22:07.44 | CIA-22 | GuildMail: |
| 22:07.44 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.44 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:10.52 | ravagernl | if people download addons for certain things just because they're lazy, why do you think they would not be lazy enough to read a wiki? I think it is much easier if an addons function is documented ingame, so you don't have to alt tab everytime you come acros something new. |
| 22:11.16 | ravagernl | maybe replace much easier with much lazier :P |
| 22:12.35 | Anmoch | is it just me or does omen have serious problems with different language clients? |
| 22:13.38 | trh | Anmoch: serious is a bit exaggerated |
| 22:13.56 | Antiarc | Anmoch: I play enUS so I can't test it that well, but any info you can give me would be appreciated. |
| 22:14.37 | Anmoch | trh: not being on any deDE threat meters of the DDs as enUS tank on every other mob is what i call serious |
| 22:14.55 | trh | Anmoch: uh.. we don't have that problem |
| 22:15.03 | trh | Anmoch: has the tank updated it recently? |
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| 22:16.44 | trh | Antiarc: btw: did you got that little html page with my testing results for screen rank 4? |
| 22:16.53 | Antiarc | No, I didn't. resend? |
| 22:16.57 | stavmar_ | what is the name of that mod that allows you to whisper someone if they have the recipe available for something? |
| 22:17.08 | liquiem | craftlist |
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| 22:17.13 | trh | Antiarc: http://www.carebear.de/~trh/Threat-Screech.xhtml |
| 22:17.20 | Antiarc | Awesome, thanks |
| 22:17.23 | Derek | Hey antiarc, can you whisper me? I can't whisper you |
| 22:17.28 | trh | Antiarc: still need more tests, but 140 seems a very good value to start |
| 22:17.32 | Antiarc | Derek: You have to identify to send whispers |
| 22:17.36 | stavmar_ | liquiem: is it working pretty well for enchanting and JC as well or should we use the seperate ones |
| 22:17.39 | trh | Derek: you need to register with nickserv |
| 22:17.48 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/70178 < some cowtip errors I got tonight |
| 22:17.52 | Derek | how do i do that agian |
| 22:17.55 | Derek | is it /nick? |
| 22:18.11 | Anmoch | trh, Antiarc: sorry for the slow replies... i'm the tank and we're doing SH |
| 22:18.14 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.17 | Antiarc | No problem Anmoch |
| 22:18.22 | Antiarc | Any info you can provide would be welcome |
| 22:18.24 | Anmoch | i've wowaceupdated today, and the DDs tell me they have done that yesterday |
| 22:18.31 | Anmoch | i'll see what we find |
| 22:18.33 | Antiarc | If you can, /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable() |
| 22:18.35 | Antiarc | And take a screen |
| 22:18.35 | Antiarc | Also |
| 22:18.41 | Antiarc | If you can, /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpThreatTable() |
| 22:18.43 | Antiarc | And take a screen |
| 22:18.51 | Anmoch | slight mistake above btw, i'm enGB of course |
| 22:20.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42432 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Najentus: add say warnings |
| 22:20.12 | Anmoch | the table is huge. is there any way i can dump it to a text file? |
| 22:20.24 | hypetech | why is cowl ofthe grand engineer not in atlasloot's loot table for void reaver |
| 22:20.44 | trh | OMG... zoidberg's whooop whooop whoop whoop sound for threat warning in omen is awesome :) |
| 22:20.47 | durcyn | hypetech: because it used to be named "collar" |
| 22:21.01 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: incoming |
| 22:21.01 | hypetech | wtf I've never seen this piece |
| 22:21.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42433 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - bugfix, probably. |
| 22:21.06 | hypetech | it destroys spellstrike |
| 22:21.15 | Antiarc | Afraid not. I'll take a partial screen over nothing. |
| 22:21.25 | Antiarc | trh: Linkplz. |
| 22:21.42 | Trancer | Antiarc: hmm.. the warlock implementation for Omen is not very efficient |
| 22:21.49 | Antiarc | Trancer: How so? |
| 22:22.03 | trh | Antiarc: for the sound? install vanaskos - it adds it to the sharedmedialib =) |
| 22:22.04 | Trancer | it checks for plagueheart bonus on every coa/siphon/another tick |
| 22:22.16 | Antiarc | Trancer: The bonuses are cached. |
| 22:22.32 | Trancer | ah, wouldn't it be easier to move the check up though? |
| 22:22.33 | Antiarc | It only does a gear scan if your gear changes. |
| 22:22.39 | Antiarc | How so? |
| 22:23.05 | hypetech | anybody know how often spellstrike set bonus procs? |
| 22:23.11 | Trancer | saves you going into a few routines and retrieving a cached set over and over |
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| 22:23.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42434 10Parrot/ (. Parrot.lua Parrot.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 22:23.40 | CIA-22 | Parrot - initial commit |
| 22:23.40 | CIA-22 | Floating Combat Text of awesomeness. Caw. It'll eat your crackers. |
| 22:23.40 | CIA-22 | Doesn't do anything yet. |
| 22:24.18 | art3mis | hehe that rmeinds me of the beer commercial where the pirate walks in with a carrot on his shoulder |
| 22:24.25 | trh | Antiarc: btw: could you add a "only warn when in raid/party" option? it's a bit annoying after a while when soloing with pet :) |
| 22:24.29 | art3mis | and buys everyone a round so they dont tell anyone |
| 22:24.48 | Antiarc | Yeah, adding that now actually. |
| 22:24.52 | Trancer | it would be a minor optimization though, seeing the gear is cached |
| 22:24.55 | trh | Antiarc: :) |
| 22:25.03 | Antiarc | Yeah. I'll see if I can optimize it though. |
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| 22:25.31 | CIA-22 | 03eblume * r42435 10GuildMail/ (GuildMail.lua GuildMail.toc libs/): |
| 22:25.31 | CIA-22 | GuildMail: |
| 22:25.31 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.37 | grrrrrrrrrrr | [00:23] <CIA-22> Floating Combat Text of awesomeness. Caw. It'll eat your crackers. <--i like that. |
| 22:25.44 | RogueShadow | Combat Text cknight? |
| 22:26.05 | trh | yeah.. "Parrot" |
| 22:26.27 | RogueShadow | Well this is going to be interesting. I look forward to seeing if that will captivate me. and make me switch. |
| 22:27.17 | trh | Antiarc: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/VanasKoS/Artwork/Zoidberg-Whoopwhoopwhoop.mp3 <- the sound if you want to add it too =) |
| 22:27.25 | Anmoch | Antiarc: http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_070207_002143.jpg http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_070207_002307.jpg |
| 22:27.30 | Anmoch | latter is infight with grand warlock |
| 22:27.37 | Antiarc | Thank you! |
| 22:27.44 | Anmoch | will make more screens if/when it fails again |
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| 22:27.58 | Anmoch | but for now i'm afraid i have to do the time limited event thing |
| 22:28.12 | Antiarc | Interesting. That enUS = "Wolkenbrunch" entry looks wrong. |
| 22:28.14 | Antiarc | That'd explain it. |
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| 22:28.31 | Antiarc | Translations are definitely getting crossed. |
| 22:28.35 | Antiarc | Perfect. Thank you. :) |
| 22:29.06 | Antiarc | That shows the bug perfectly. I'll see if I can find out where it's from. A thousand thanks! |
| 22:29.16 | Antiarc | (I hate bugs that I can't test/replicate) |
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| 22:29.49 | trh | Antiarc: uh... wolkenbruch is the name of that char playing =) |
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| 22:30.15 | Antiarc | Ooh. Right. |
| 22:30.20 | Antiarc | I wonder why...ooh. Ooooooh. |
| 22:30.23 | Killmore | [2007/07/01 18:29:39-222-x2]: Decursive\Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua:887: IsSpellInRange(): Invalid spell slot |
| 22:30.28 | ckknight | oh oh, harder! |
| 22:30.52 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:31.23 | Mellow_ | oO |
| 22:31.26 | Mellow_ | :P |
| 22:31.41 | Punkie` | Antiarc: poke! |
| 22:32.05 | Antiarc | Punkie`: Jab! |
| 22:32.05 | Punkie` | ouch! |
| 22:32.05 | syeren | WHERE ARE THE AURAS CKK?? |
| 22:32.05 | syeren | :( |
| 22:32.27 | Punkie` | Are you going to make a 'threat gain' bar or something? |
| 22:32.32 | hypetech | so throwing up a poll..... SCT or MSBT |
| 22:32.37 | Punkie` | like the target bar, but regardless of who's tanking it |
| 22:32.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42436 10Parrot/ (Parrot.toc embeds.xml libs/): Parrot - add SharedMedia-1.0 to the list of libs, for fonts. |
| 22:32.54 | ckknight | syeren: you never answer your damn PMs |
| 22:32.57 | trh | ~seen adirelle |
| 22:33.03 | purl | adirelle <n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 22h 9m 26s ago, saying: 'night'. |
| 22:33.10 | Antiarc | Punkie`: Already in, pull out the aggro bar. |
| 22:33.15 | Punkie` | WHAT! |
| 22:33.25 | Punkie` | I hovered over that and it didn't tell me too :( |
| 22:34.11 | Punkie` | That's awesome Antiarc, cheers :) |
| 22:34.15 | syeren | My PC crashed, I gave you my suggestion. |
| 22:34.28 | Antiarc | Punkie`: I need to fix the tooltip |
| 22:34.36 | syeren | You're the master here, all I can do is spout ideas and you tell me if they're possible / worth investing time in :) |
| 22:35.06 | pakoz2 | yo |
| 22:35.10 | pakoz2 | anyone have ideas on this error |
| 22:35.10 | pakoz2 | http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4800/untitledxb4.jpg |
| 22:36.17 | pakoz2 | i installed big wigs last night inplace of dbm - i doubt thats it; but putting it out there |
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| 22:36.34 | Strigoi|lr | oh i found my favorite UI |
| 22:36.36 | Strigoi|lr | http://venus.cs.teiher.gr/~manio/WoW/WoWScrnShot_112106_232507.jpg |
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| 22:37.02 | trh | Strigoi|lr: lol.. how does someone actually play with that ui? =) |
| 22:37.11 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:37.14 | hypetech | ..... |
| 22:37.16 | Funkeh` | you found my old UI! |
| 22:37.19 | Funkeh` | or near enough |
| 22:37.28 | Strigoi|lr | it is informative!! |
| 22:37.29 | Funkeh` | thats basically what mine looked a in the 'ol days |
| 22:37.30 | durcyn | holy what the hell |
| 22:37.37 | Funkeh` | healing wiht bars |
| 22:38.13 | Ominous | anyone use xchat here? |
| 22:38.39 | durcyn | Ominous: once upon a time. |
| 22:38.58 | Ominous | can you remember how to get pings etc when your name is said |
| 22:39.27 | durcyn | Ominous: it's in the default hightlighting options |
| 22:39.33 | durcyn | highlighting rather |
| 22:39.48 | Punkie` | Strigoi|lr: that person should use UI scale so he can fit even more crap in |
| 22:40.09 | Strigoi|lr | :P |
| 22:40.32 | trh | nice.. from the 2.1.3 patch notes: "Fixed a crash triggered by many unit frame AddOns." |
| 22:40.42 | duaiwe | Ominous: in x-chat aqua it's in preferences->events/sounds->Channel Msg Hilight, might be similar in the *nix version. *shrug* |
| 22:40.56 | duaiwe | goddamn connection. |
| 22:40.58 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42437 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Fixes a bug with reporting |
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| 22:42.49 | Anmoch | damn gladiators... |
| 22:42.58 | Anmoch | Antiarc: just to confirm: Wolkenbruch is indeed a player |
| 22:43.04 | liquiem | stavmar_, sorry, havent noticed that highlight :/ i think craftlist is based on gemlist. just try it and play around with it :) |
| 22:43.26 | Antiarc | Yeah, but you still got translations with German as the source |
| 22:43.27 | Antiarc | Which is wrong |
| 22:43.51 | Gagorian | Does Recount really store that much data that, even without graphing, memory used rises to over 10 mb quickly? |
| 22:44.03 | Gagorian | Recount was 11 megs a few pulls into TK |
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| 22:46.50 | Strigoi|lr | hmm actually i found my UI back in days on 60s ;p was pretty sweet though :) http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/103/wow2006110102204934of8.jpg |
| 22:47.55 | durcyn | eh, that's only mostly horribly ugly. |
| 22:48.20 | liquiem | dab/duf? |
| 22:48.27 | Strigoi|lr | yea :) |
| 22:49.28 | liquiem | the skills|macros thing told so |
| 22:51.10 | Strigoi|lr | what was the name of that imba healing add-on ... ehh the one which acted like smart emergency heal |
| 22:51.33 | kebinusan | http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7411/wowscrnshot062907032927sd0.jpg thats my horrible ui |
| 22:51.42 | kebinusan | Ive pretty much had a similar setup for quite some time |
| 22:52.48 | starlon | Hell gimme some gold :) |
| 22:53.23 | liquiem | he's poor, let him alone :p |
| 22:53.31 | starlon | :( |
| 22:53.36 | starlon | I know poor |
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| 22:54.17 | Antiarc | ...doh. |
| 22:54.17 | kebinusan | yeah I am, I dont really see the need to farm every day, I have my epic mount and enough gold to pay repair bills thats all that matters |
| 22:54.20 | liquiem | thats the reason why i dont put gold count on fubar or open bags. people come and beg for gold ^^ |
| 22:54.21 | Antiarc | I just found the translation problem. |
| 22:54.29 | kebinusan | Heh |
| 22:54.36 | starlon | haha |
| 22:54.41 | kebinusan | I just deposit 2k gold in the trade window |
| 22:54.43 | kebinusan | and go afk |
| 22:54.45 | Antiarc | No, wait, nevermind. |
| 22:54.58 | liquiem | kebinusan haha |
| 22:55.12 | jme | kebinusan: i invite them to a party, then misdirect the cenarion emmissary guy in org onto them |
| 22:55.25 | kebinusan | rofl thats amazing |
| 22:55.34 | art3mis | rather old |
| 22:55.36 | Strigoi|lr | thats old ;p |
| 22:55.38 | art3mis | but always hilarious |
| 22:55.40 | Strigoi|lr | hehe |
| 22:55.40 | jme | still works though |
| 22:55.54 | starlon | the people who can't stand to be below 10k gold amaze me. I hover around 100g |
| 22:56.11 | liquiem | jme, would be awesome pre 2.0, where that guy gave -10k reputation for cenarion ;) |
| 22:56.22 | starlon | I farm what I need and keep enough for repairs |
| 22:56.38 | kebinusan | I cant stand farming |
| 22:56.45 | kebinusan | even daily quests |
| 22:56.48 | kebinusan | feels too much like work |
| 22:56.52 | starlon | lol |
| 22:56.58 | jme | liquiem: gives -24 rep with cenarion now |
| 22:57.00 | liquiem | starlon, the bad part. i do nothing, but gain 100g every week or so. dunno |
| 22:57.07 | liquiem | jme, yes :( |
| 22:58.11 | Chompers | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Dalvengyr&n=Jigsaww |
| 22:58.25 | Chompers | 51 points in arms, yet no Mortal strike |
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| 23:00.06 | Anmoch | Antiarc: i think it's confusing different mob names, screen upcoming |
| 23:01.07 | Anmoch | http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_070207_005821.jpg |
| 23:01.15 | Anmoch | notice how brawler -> scharfschuetze |
| 23:01.18 | Anmoch | which is worng |
| 23:01.21 | Anmoch | wrong even |
| 23:01.47 | Antiarc | What should it be? |
| 23:01.53 | Antiarc | That'd totally explain it though |
| 23:02.04 | Anmoch | brawler -> raufbold |
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| 23:02.11 | Anmoch | sharpshooter -> scharfschuetze |
| 23:02.13 | hypetech | ya |
| 23:02.18 | Anmoch | it has mixed the two |
| 23:02.19 | Antiarc | Ooh. Hrm. |
| 23:02.23 | Antiarc | Right, it has. |
| 23:02.32 | Antiarc | Okay. Thank you - I'll see what I can do to fix it up. |
| 23:02.32 | hypetech | I was gonna say I have no idea what language that is, but scharfschuetze looks like sharpshooter :p |
| 23:02.43 | Anmoch | np. it's german :P |
| 23:03.02 | Antiarc | It's a race condition that happens when someone switches targets rapidly. I just need to handle that particular event. |
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| 23:06.50 | trh | ckknight: [2007/07/02 01:03:18-507-x6]: PitBull_Aura\Aura.lua:802: table index is nil --- |
| 23:07.09 | trh | ckknight: when i got of the mount and my pet spawned |
| 23:07.14 | hypetech | is there anyway at all to grind ogri'la rep outside of dailys? I know you get 5 rep per kill for skyguard for killing the birds, anything similar? |
| 23:08.16 | Gagorian | Is the author of ItemValue here? |
| 23:08.21 | pakoz2 | @hypetech: nope |
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| 23:08.51 | hypetech | pakoz2: you tease me.... @hypetech =( |
| 23:09.49 | Gagorian | http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4631/1182888547142wq0.gif |
| 23:09.57 | Gagorian | tell me.. which way is she spinning according to you? |
| 23:10.05 | aen` | clockwise |
| 23:10.11 | hypetech | counter clock |
| 23:10.21 | nevcairiel | clockwise |
| 23:10.25 | hypetech | that is most definitely counter clock |
| 23:10.34 | aen` | theres no way |
| 23:10.38 | hypetech | wtf? |
| 23:10.45 | aen` | look at her stretched foot |
| 23:11.01 | hypetech | exactly |
| 23:11.08 | hypetech | <--- going this way at the top |
| 23:11.10 | hypetech | that's counter clock |
| 23:11.32 | Gagorian | Haha. That's what we call a proper mindfuck picture, she can actually spin either way depending on how your brain perceives it the first time. |
| 23:11.49 | Tain | She switched suddenly to me. |
| 23:11.51 | Gagorian | I could've sworn it was clockwise when I first looked, later counter-clockwise |
| 23:11.52 | hypetech | how in the world can you see her spinning clockwise? |
| 23:11.58 | Tain | She's going back and forth. |
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| 23:12.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin_] by ChanServ |
| 23:12.06 | Sais | Women! |
| 23:12.11 | Sais | ;P |
| 23:12.34 | Gagorian | Tain: Sick. Took me a while to figure out how to make her turn on will :p |
| 23:12.53 | liquiem | well, the shadow looks odd |
| 23:12.56 | Gagorian | After some time, you can 'reset' your brain to think she's going in the other direction |
| 23:13.22 | liquiem | doesnt fit, thats makes the whole picture a big fake. it doesnt make sense! arrrgh, madness! |
| 23:13.36 | hypetech | there is nothing clockwise about it |
| 23:13.43 | liquiem | but left that out and i would say clockwise :/ |
| 23:13.50 | Tain | I keep trying to figure it out. |
| 23:13.52 | Gagorian | hypetech: I can definately say it can be clockwise. |
| 23:14.02 | hypetech | she is constantly spinning to her back left, that is counter clock |
| 23:14.13 | Tain | I'd swear the animation actually switches after a certain amount of time, but it looks like it's just an optical illusion somehow |
| 23:14.24 | Gagorian | Tain: I can guarantee that's not the case ;) |
| 23:14.28 | liquiem | doesnt switched for me :( |
| 23:14.32 | Gagorian | 34 smooth frames |
| 23:14.47 | pakoz2 | i cant see it as anything except counter clockwise |
| 23:14.47 | Tain | heheh it makes no sense I can't see how that works. |
| 23:14.52 | hypetech | okay, I see what you're talking about |
| 23:15.06 | hypetech | if you were looking from under her, her stretched foot would be going clockwise |
| 23:15.16 | hypetech | and it's at a slight oblique orbit |
| 23:15.25 | hypetech | so if you just stare at the foot, you might see clockwise |
| 23:15.34 | hypetech | but the PERSON is rotating counter clock |
| 23:15.49 | Gagorian | Ok. Try this.. to turn her CW, focus on her foot that's on the ground, turn it into a 2D picture, when the eleveted leg is at righternmost position look up |
| 23:16.01 | hypetech | that is exactly waht I just said lol |
| 23:16.09 | Tain | hehe now I can only see clockwise. |
| 23:16.09 | Sais | Got it. |
| 23:16.17 | Sais | I focused on the shadow. |
| 23:16.22 | Tain | I can't get her back the other way! |
| 23:16.28 | Gagorian | hypetech: Well, the person can rotate either way. |
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| 23:16.35 | hypetech | hmm |
| 23:16.35 | hypetech | no |
| 23:16.37 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:16.39 | Gagorian | yes |
| 23:17.11 | hypetech | if you watch the person as a whole, judging which thigh is in front of the other and watch the outside shoulder, it will always be counter clock |
| 23:17.30 | Anmoch | Antiarc: btw there's another minor nitpick: drag-out aggro bars are too druid-like orange |
| 23:17.41 | Anmoch | i had to change the source to make them black so i could see something |
| 23:17.44 | Antiarc | Anmoch: Yeah, gonna add color selectors for that. |
| 23:17.52 | Antiarc | Translation problem is top priority though. |
| 23:17.59 | Anmoch | :) |
| 23:18.11 | Antiarc | I think that's the source of most of the remaining reported bugs. |
| 23:18.16 | Gagorian | hypetech: I can promise you if you get her to turn, your brain will think exactly the opposite. |
| 23:18.20 | liquiem | hypetech, you have a screwed vision, honestly |
| 23:18.21 | hypetech | oh WTF |
| 23:18.27 | hypetech | nvm |
| 23:18.27 | hypetech | wow |
| 23:18.31 | hypetech | that's fucked up |
| 23:18.32 | Antiarc | Ahahah. |
| 23:19.38 | Gagorian | hypetech: Pretty damn weird, is it not? :D |
| 23:19.48 | pakoz2 | im confused a bit lol |
| 23:19.55 | pakoz2 | if i cover up 4/5ths of the image |
| 23:19.59 | pakoz2 | her head is always clockwise |
| 23:20.53 | NightHawkTheSane | the crux of the image is the legs, imo. It's a matter of how you interpret her legs as moving in front or behind each other. |
| 23:20.55 | Chompers | Antiarc: been using omen in TK tonight, Omen wasn't displaying the Threat reductions for Void Reaver |
| 23:21.04 | Antiarc | Bah. |
| 23:21.05 | Antiarc | enUS? |
| 23:21.15 | Chompers | enGB |
| 23:21.24 | Antiarc | Okay. May be locale related. |
| 23:21.58 | NightHawkTheSane | the image is more or less a mirror image of itself |
| 23:22.31 | hypetech | okay, now she just keeps switching back and forth for me on every rotation and I'm pretty sure my brain is about to explode |
| 23:22.34 | hypetech | so I'm done |
| 23:22.48 | NightHawkTheSane | if you flip through it frame by frame, it's pretty interesting |
| 23:22.52 | hypetech | ya |
| 23:23.20 | hypetech | I can tell that it cuts the motions at the back of the movement so it's not a smooth rotation, which is the point at which you can make the switch |
| 23:23.22 | ravagernl | ckknight, would it be possible for pitbull's portrait to be able to rotate the model? |
| 23:23.31 | hypetech | ravagernl: NO! not after that |
| 23:23.32 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:24.03 | Chompers | ckknight: you didn't use Sausage :< |
| 23:24.10 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/fun/you_are_now_drunk.jpg <-- better mindfuck |
| 23:24.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: meh, thats just clever photoshopping |
| 23:25.00 | Mikk | it's not hurting your head? |
| 23:25.08 | Mikk | my eyes go all cross when i look at it |
| 23:25.37 | Chompers | i still can't make that spinning woman turn at will |
| 23:25.44 | Chompers | it just kinda happens |
| 23:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: no, not particularly :P |
| 23:26.02 | Strigoi|lr | Chompers look at the mirror image of her legs |
| 23:26.08 | Strigoi|lr | for couple of seconds |
| 23:26.09 | Mikk | NightHawkAtWork: mutant :P |
| 23:26.48 | Anmoch | what kind of drug induce craze do you have to be in to design a fight like o'mrogg? |
| 23:27.01 | Ominous | the woman one isnt changing at all for me, always clockwise |
| 23:27.36 | Strigoi|lr | Ominous try to look at mirror immage of her legs |
| 23:27.45 | Strigoi|lr | at the bottom of this pic |
| 23:27.57 | Ominous | HATE YOU |
| 23:28.20 | Strigoi|lr | haha |
| 23:28.23 | Ominous | thats weird |
| 23:28.47 | Chompers | i can sorta do it |
| 23:28.54 | Chompers | still not like a switch |
| 23:29.04 | Tain | I can't do it completely on demand, but it will switch for me. |
| 23:29.17 | Trancer | goddamnit that spinning woman is evil |
| 23:29.27 | Ominous | i can make it go clockwise to anti on demand but not the otehr way |
| 23:29.35 | Trancer | I can make it go both ways now |
| 23:29.38 | Trancer | took me a while |
| 23:30.13 | Gagorian | It's pretty damn weird. |
| 23:30.37 | Trancer | crap, and now I can't |
| 23:30.48 | Gagorian | This is what I do: |
| 23:30.52 | Antiarc | I have no idea how to solve this race condition. :/ |
| 23:30.53 | Gagorian | Try to focus on the base of the leg that's holding her weight. Turn it into a 2D image, ignore "depth". Then when her foot in the air is to the righternmost part, look up. She rotates CW |
| 23:30.56 | Sais | I used the shadow to go one way, then the hand to go the other |
| 23:31.00 | Gagorian | when her leg is to the left, you'll get CCW |
| 23:31.09 | Trancer | ah there we go |
| 23:31.15 | Trancer | flickering eyes helps |
| 23:31.20 | Antiarc | deDE targets mob -> enGB requests translation for deDE's target -> deDE switches target -> deDE receives request -> deDE replies with new target name. |
| 23:31.23 | Trancer | nice mindfuck |
| 23:32.09 | Anmoch | Antiarc: perhaps you could send the (current) raid target symbol along with the names |
| 23:32.18 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Ignore all results if targets are switched too rapidly? |
| 23:32.20 | Anmoch | of course that could race too, but it's another check at least |
| 23:32.28 | Antiarc | Gagorian: That's the direction I'm heading |
| 23:32.43 | Antiarc | Anmoch: I think that's the prime condition where this happens, which makes it more prone to racing |
| 23:32.49 | Antiarc | ie, assigning raid icons rapidly |
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| 23:32.56 | Antiarc | target, icon, switch, repeat 4x |
| 23:33.31 | kebinusan | yeah I dont get how you see clockwise in that photo Ive stared at it for a few minutes now |
| 23:33.43 | trh | Antiarc: if targetted you could check with UnitIsUnit maybe? |
| 23:34.01 | Gagorian | kebinusan: The trick is you need to reset your perception of it |
| 23:34.10 | Antiarc | trh: UnitIsUnit("raid3target", "raid3target") always == true |
| 23:34.12 | Gagorian | Staring at it wont make it switch |
| 23:34.18 | Gagorian | You need to re-focus |
| 23:34.25 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: the direction she turns is purely mental state. The image has no inherent depth and is a sequence of mirrored images, so there's no implicit direction. :) |
| 23:34.27 | kebinusan | yeah Ive tried refocusing and all that jaz |
| 23:34.46 | kebinusan | I think I need some asprin now |
| 23:35.03 | Gagorian | Get aspirin, when you return she might be spinning the other way! |
| 23:35.28 | Strigoi|lr | fuck now she's swichting for me all the time ;DDD |
| 23:35.49 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 23:35.52 | Wobin_ | Spinning woman? |
| 23:36.09 | Gagorian | Wobin_: [02:13:50] <Gagorian> http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4631/1182888547142wq0.gif |
| 23:36.38 | Wobin_ | okay |
| 23:36.43 | Wobin_ | why is she spinning? =) |
| 23:36.45 | bigzero | grrr, I've been trying to find blizzard's autoloot script for an hour now and I can't...wtf. Anyone want to give a shot at trying to locate it? |
| 23:36.55 | Wogroipl | Hmm if you click and drag the picture you see a "shadowimage" |
| 23:37.15 | Wogroipl | Seems to me that is how you can make her turn the other way |
| 23:37.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: its not why, but which way ;) |
| 23:38.02 | bigzero | no, she can only turn one way because of the shadow on the ground. on the left it is going towards you |
| 23:38.13 | art3mis | http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/saishin-e.html |
| 23:38.29 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 23:38.58 | Wogroipl | where is the light coming from? |
| 23:39.17 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: yeah, ive seen stuff like that, its neat. |
| 23:39.26 | art3mis | i lurv optical illusions |
| 23:39.36 | art3mis | stere-oh's are the bestest too |
| 23:40.09 | art3mis | http://yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html |
| 23:40.17 | art3mis | was ghoing through all my old bookmarks n stuff today |
| 23:40.19 | kebinusan | ah there we go |
| 23:40.32 | kebinusan | helped if I focused on her hips and thought she was supposed to spin the other way |
| 23:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: meh, that last one is neat, but in no way impressive :P |
| 23:41.15 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 23:41.31 | art3mis | its kind of neat to stare at for a long time |
| 23:41.33 | Wobin_ | you have to watch as her leg crosses over and visualise it going either behind her or in front of her |
| 23:41.43 | Wobin_ | and it switches over |
| 23:42.39 | bigzero | omg...someone please give me a hand :-( |
| 23:42.46 | Antiarc | Sorry, I need both of mine. |
| 23:43.05 | bigzero | this is driving me nuts. I can't find the stupid autoloot code QQ |
| 23:45.11 | Tanja | hi |
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| 23:48.11 | pakoz2 | anyone have ideas on this error |
| 23:48.12 | pakoz2 | http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4800/untitledxb4.jpg i installed big wigs last night inplace of dbm - i doubt thats it; but putting it out there |
| 23:48.43 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 23:48.56 | syeren | PM n00b ;p |
| 23:49.12 | ckknight | ravagernl: very complicated and cpu-intensive, so I don't want to |
| 23:49.43 | ravagernl | ckknight, maybe just provide an option to change the direction the model is looking at? |
| 23:49.59 | ckknight | no |
| 23:50.03 | ravagernl | :( |
| 23:50.06 | ckknight | go back to the very complicated statement,. |
| 23:50.54 | Strigoi|lr | did anyone check what happened to Voyeur, it's been quite a while since it stopped caching the items of inspected unit |
| 23:51.55 | Strigoi|lr | i mean when you target someone and inspect > then clear your target , instead of item tooltips you get "feet", "wrist" etc., but is you shift click the item you will actually get the link of it |
| 23:52.15 | Strigoi|lr | *if you |
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