IRC log for #wowace on 20070629

00:00.10*** join/#wowace evilperro (i=d@c-14d572d5.03-22-73746f28.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
00:00.11hyperChipmunkthere should also be a button where they can just order the pizzas directly to me
00:00.19KaeltenI'll look at it in the long run
00:00.28KaeltenhyperChipmunk: /pizza inside wow
00:00.40trhKaelten: don't forget the chinese food!
00:00.53trhjust thinking of that sweet-sour fried duck... yummy
00:01.09AnduinLotharspeaking of which i should put a donate button on Khaos. There's been a Cosmos Pizza Fund for ages but donations are fairly seasonal
00:01.38CIA-2203fin * r42144 10Prat/extras/readme.txt: Prat: extras/readme.txt: minorish updates - forum thread URL; mentioned #wowace; added appropriately emotional conclusion; noted "Prattle"
00:01.41NightHawkAtWorkI hate you all for talking about food. seriously.
00:01.52GagorianMmm.. meatballs.
00:01.59AnduinLotharmmm pizza snacks
00:02.13trhthe german version of meatballs is even better, they are somehwere between meatballs and buns
00:02.16trherr.. not buns
00:02.19trhpattys
00:02.52NightHawkAtWorki'd like a meat bun.
00:03.04NightHawkAtWorkwith a meat patty, maybe some meat lettuce and tomato too
00:03.15trhNightHawkAtWork: damn... walked into that one ;)
00:03.19Kalman|NightHawkAtWork: On a meat plate, to be eaten with meat ketchup and relish?
00:03.36NightHawkAtWorkKalman|: of course. :)
00:03.59Kalman|You know, the more Kenco posts, the more I lose respect for him.  :/
00:04.29trhhttp://www.bildschirmarbeiter.com/fun/images/riesen-burger/01.jpg <- THAT's a burger
00:04.36NightHawkAtWorkActually, I'd really love a wendy's triple cheeseburger combo with chili. >.>
00:04.50AnduinLotharmeat sauce
00:05.08WobinI'll have a tall glass of MEAT, thanks
00:06.12PeoiiWobin: You want a guiness?
00:06.28NightHawkAtWorki want a guinness.
00:06.34Finckknight: ping
00:06.42WobinPeoii: it's true
00:06.53trhguiness is good =)
00:07.09ckknightFin: pong!
00:07.18Finckknight: you're fine, honestly
00:07.25ckknight?
00:07.29ckknightwhat?
00:07.31Finckknight: you don't smell at all
00:07.32Finhaha
00:07.45Finheheh
00:07.53trhbtw: do you know http://de.sevenload.com/videos/L0XsrEW/Mac-or-PC-Rap already? =)
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00:08.41Finckknight: so, er, anyway - I'm getting "attempting to index upvalue 'toolbar' (a nil value)" in Tablet used with Bartender (line 2334) - can I add a check for a nil value there?
00:08.56Finit's apparently using Tablet-2.0
00:09.00Finor should I just update something
00:09.11Fin-toolbar+tooltip
00:09.24ckknightdunno
00:09.31Finit doesn't seem to affect anything at all
00:09.33ckknightI'm not the author of Bartender
00:09.41Finjust getting an error on load and reload
00:09.47Finckknight: I wanted to add the check in Tablet
00:09.48ckknightis it in Bartender or in Tablet-2.0.lua?
00:09.53ckknightah
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00:10.42Funkeh`ckknight: i dunno what you have done to cowtip now _everything_ is fading its horrible
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00:11.52Funkeh`is there a fading option somewhere that i missed or should i jsut use tinytip for now
00:11.58CIA-2203ckknight * r42145 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0 - do not show a Donate button if addon.donate (or X-Donate) is not specified. If you still want it to direct to wowace automatically, do X-Donate: Wowace
00:12.06ckknightFunkeh`: jesus
00:12.12ckknightFunkeh`: you people have no sense of patience
00:12.20ckknightFunkeh`: I'm working on the fading module now
00:12.27ckknightFunkeh`: revert back a revision
00:12.30ckknightand wait half an hour
00:12.56Finckknight: http://fin.pastey.net/70024
00:13.26Finmind if I add a little nil test before that line?
00:13.36ckknightFin: yea, go ahead.
00:13.38Finta
00:13.44CIA-2203funkydude * r42146 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: add ## X-Donate: Wowace
00:13.47Funkeh`ckknight: cba :p
00:14.01ckknightcba?
00:14.08Fincan't be arsed
00:14.18Finalthough I think you'll find if you try hard enough...
00:14.27Finbutter helps
00:14.31Finso I'm told
00:14.40Chompersdoes anyone play a paladin here?
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00:15.06Findude! you don't play paladins! you *live* Paladins
00:15.07ckknightChompers: I do
00:15.34Chompersck, i'm level 46, what's the most efficent way to kill a mob?
00:15.41ckknightprot aoe
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00:15.45WobinPeople don't play paladins
00:15.49GagorianBring its HP down to zero.
00:15.49Chomperswhat seals/judgements should i use
00:15.49WobinThey endure it.
00:15.50ckknightbut that's the most efficient way to kill 9 mobs at once
00:15.53ckknightthat's what I do
00:16.00harl|EFCi neither play nor live anything like a paladin, only something avatar-like.
00:16.10ckknightblessing of sanc
00:16.21ckknightseal of light/wisdom, judgement of light/wisdom
00:16.26ckknightdepending on the situation
00:16.28WobinI want to go aoe prot
00:16.30ckknightand just whack whack whack
00:16.38Chompersis it really worth going prot?
00:16.38ckknightfuck you, legion of murlocs!
00:16.40Wobinbut I don't know if I could handle the 40 levels to get there
00:16.44ckknightyea, go get your friends
00:16.46ckknightsmash!
00:16.52ckknightChompers: works for me
00:17.00Mikkprot aoe grinding is the fastest way to xp solo with a pally
00:17.00Kaeltengot the equivalent of a bluescreen on my mac
00:17.03ckknightKaelten: srsly? how?
00:17.07Mikkyou do laughable damage against solo targets though
00:17.14Chompersshould i wait till 50 and grind in wpl?
00:17.19Chompersor go prot now
00:17.20WobinNah, Murlocs =)
00:17.23ckknightChompers: I started Prot at 35
00:17.27Morgh<PROTECTED>
00:17.33Kaeltengot this grey background that faded out from the top to bottom and then a message popuped saying I had to do a hard reboot
00:17.40WobinChompers: Lemme pull out a link
00:17.44ckknightKaelten: dang
00:17.51Finoh, there's already a check in Tablet
00:18.03Kaeltenmuch prettier than the BSOD
00:18.07Chomperswhere should i grind?
00:18.10Kaeltenbut same effect
00:18.28MorghChompers: Should be STV now, right?
00:18.45Chompersbeen following kopps guide
00:18.53WobinChompers: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67158029&sid=1
00:18.56Chompersi'm just finished with hinterlands
00:19.03Chompersthanks Wobin
00:19.46MorghWhy not keep following Kopp's guide then?
00:19.49CIA-2203kemayo * r42147 10AuldLangSyne/ (AuldLangSyne.lua Fu/Fu.lua):
00:19.49CIA-22AuldLangSyne: Very, very drycoded.
00:19.49CIA-22-Fu: Check whether you're in a guild before trying to do guild stuff.
00:19.49CIA-22-Fu: Sorting.
00:20.17Chompersret has been very slow with alot of downtime
00:20.35ckknightret's good up to 35 for me
00:20.36Kemayodurcyn: Sorting!  (It might be buggy.)
00:20.37ckknightthen I go prot
00:20.39MorghThe build I posted has little to no downtime, as you'll be proccing reckoning almost constantly.
00:21.44Mikkyeah ret works early on
00:21.44Mikkthen it just goes mana inefficient
00:21.53Mikkeven holy is faster with free crit heals
00:21.54MorghRet until 34 or so, then Prot -> Ret
00:22.13KemayoAt least I'm at the point nowadays where I can reimplement an addon into a wildly new form drycoded and only have a few small bugs to clear up.  >>
00:22.18GagorianCan anyone explain why memory usage for libraries was assigned to my addon just by adding the \libs\ folder in even if everything is available through OptDepts as disembedded?
00:22.22CIA-2203adirelle * r42148 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua:
00:22.22CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
00:22.22CIA-22- removed a debug statement.
00:22.50GagorianSeems like this happened after converting to embeds.xml
00:22.53Finhm
00:23.20Finfirst file of mine to do with addons has grown to over 1000 lines, I'm not sure I like that
00:23.22trhGagorian: only updated that addon with new libraries?
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00:23.37trhGagorian: so it has newer library versions embedded than standalone?
00:23.57Gagoriantrh: Well, I SVN'd some time after full update so it's possible. Good point.
00:24.32GagorianI didn't assume it was 300 kB worth of libs though. Perhaps it was Babble-Spell
00:26.19Kaeltenzip files should be smaller now betw
00:26.38KemayoWhat changed with 'em?
00:27.00Kaeltenembeds no longer have their changelogs included
00:27.08GagorianYeah, it was a bit redundant
00:28.34Kaeltenhrm fizzlebags has some odd library folder names
00:28.41KaeltenI don't think it was quite what he intended
00:28.49Kaeltenhttp://files.wowace.com/Fizzlebag/Fizzlebag-r42029.1.zip
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00:29.20GagorianSeems a bit messed up indeed
00:29.34GagorianLibrary filenames to be precise
00:30.06ZealotOnAStickDid something happen today or last night with something that would explain every single addon I use that uses SharedMedia forgetting all of my Fonts?
00:35.47cladhaireCan anyone describe Chicken a'la King to me?
00:35.55cladhaireI get recipes, but I don't know what it is :P
00:36.08Garounit's a quick caserole
00:36.09cladhairelike whats the goal
00:36.19cladhaireoh okay.. so just a chicken and rice casserole?
00:36.30Garounit's a family staple meal, that's not all that good for you :)
00:36.40cladhairehehe
00:36.43cladhairewhat makes it so bad?
00:36.45Garounit's basically a chicken pot pie without the pot or pie :)
00:36.51cladhairehah
00:36.52ChompersBlessing of sanctuary, yes/no?
00:36.55CryectBetter than chicken pot pie
00:36.58Chompersover kings i guess
00:37.02Cryectnever over kings
00:37.15CryectSanctuary isn't very good
00:37.19Cryectsince its prearmor
00:37.24Cryectunless you are "aoe" grinding
00:37.25Chompersoh right
00:37.27Garounit
00:37.43Garouns  just a bit heavy on all the buzz word no-no ingredients Clad
00:37.47ChompersMorgh, what talent spec would you recomend i go for after 46?
00:37.48CryectI mean if you are doing something where you want the damage from the shield blocks its good
00:38.05cladhaireGaroun: ah, gotcha =)
00:38.16cladhairenever had it, and its supposedly a staple american meal, heh
00:38.20NeoTronsanctuary is good in the maiden of virtue encounter. that's about it :P
00:38.34Cryectits a staple american meal? heh I've barely had it
00:38.51cladhairethat's what I said, but I heard it =)
00:39.00cladhaireone of those bad for you meals that everyone has had O.o
00:39.16CryectI've had it, its not bad buts it not great
00:39.26CryectPlenty of other easier dishes I rather cook
00:39.28hyperChipmunki've never heard of it
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00:39.44Josh_Borkei've never had chicken pot pie
00:39.45WobinWhat's so bad about it?
00:40.07CryectJosh_Borke: you aren't missing out that much
00:40.09Wobinis the chicken stuffed with Twinkies or something?
00:40.17CryectNo that would be good!
00:40.53CryectNow Turducken should be a staple american food
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00:41.53CIA-2203funkydude * r42149 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: frFR fix
00:41.53WobinThat's as bad as Tofurkey
00:42.05Wobinexcept in the entirely opposite way
00:42.29CryectHehe
00:46.38ckknightoh man chicken pot pie is great
00:47.49WobinWhat's so bad about it?
00:48.03KaydeethreeI had it entirely too much as a kid, I've lost my taste for it
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00:51.56GaboonViperif i want to catch when a group member dies is CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_FRIENDLY_DEATH a sure thing, or should i follow UNIT_AURA and then check UnitIsDeadOrGhost()?
00:52.10Finwhat does the first ff mean in the colour escape codes "|cffff... etc...|r"?
00:52.26Kaydeethreered
00:52.29trhGaboonViper: if they are in combat log range, the COMBAT_FRIENDLY event is good
00:52.36Kaydeethreeff-ff-ff is full white
00:52.37Finlies!
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00:52.52Finyes, but there's *always* ff at the beginning, seems
00:52.56trhFin: alpha
00:53.17Fintrh: ah, thanks - does that mean white is alpha, or does ff just mean it's unset?
00:53.44trhFin: i think it doesn't get applied to text, but it's still better to copy a whole int than shift bits around and stuff
00:53.58GarounBah, is omen set to remove custom skins on update? :P
00:54.05Finmakes sense
00:55.57trhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk <- nicely synced =)
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01:00.03RogueShadowI quite like Dog Tags
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01:00.13RogueShadowWise people use dog tags  ;)
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01:00.57Wobintrh: YEah, it's really well done =)
01:01.23WobinI especially like the costuming
01:01.30Wobinthey've done well to match it all
01:01.38trhWobin: yeah.. very good.. guess it was alot of work =)
01:01.49Kinkx^I can't believe the Armory can suck as much as it does, I mean.. doesn't anyone at Blizzard actually use it?
01:02.11Kaydeethreethey've taken away some of the flash, they could use eliminating the rest of it
01:02.16hyperChipmunkyea, but it's all on their own network
01:02.30hyperChipmunk"whoa dudes it's so faaaassssssst"
01:02.36CodayusNetwork speed is only a tiny part of it I think.
01:02.43CodayusWell, small...
01:02.53Fincan I do local func = MyAddon.function -- and then use func(arg, arg) as if I would MyAddon:function(arg, arg) ?
01:02.55hyperChipmunknothing is prefetched
01:03.11CodayusHmm
01:03.21Wobintrh: The tauren in the banana suit is great =)
01:03.28FinI guess I'll find out
01:03.36trhWobin: hehe.. yeah.. =)
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01:03.54CIA-2203ckknight * r42150 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua CowTip.toc Fade/ Fade/Fade.lua): CowTip - add Fade module.
01:03.55GagorianFin: Yes, you should be able to
01:04.00ckknightFunkeh`: ^---
01:04.10FinGagorian: thanks
01:04.12Funkeh`ckknight: /love
01:04.14AntiarcFin, Yes, but you need to call func(MyAddon, arg, arg)
01:04.14trhWobin: the orc is nice too in yellow/black
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01:04.41ckknightFunkeh`: it's simplistic, powerful, and fast
01:04.44ckknight:-)
01:04.56Funkeh`awesomeness
01:04.58trhWobin: that murloc/frog dance is cool ;)
01:05.20RogueShadowthat video rock
01:05.22WobinI think the Napoelon Dynamite one was done best
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01:06.38CodayushyperChipmunk: One pageload of the armory takes 281 requests, and contains *900KB* of data *not* counting images.
01:06.41CodayusRight.....
01:06.52RogueShadowckknight: I've discovered Dog Tags. And how to use them. Thus making cow tip jump to the moon.  In self configuraiton.
01:07.07ckknightyep.
01:07.09ckknightnice, eh?
01:07.12RogueShadowVery!
01:08.23RogueShadowSo far I can't think of a reason I would ever not use CowTip, but if I do, i'm sure it would get fixed.
01:08.56ckknightlol
01:08.58AntiarcMan, http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=38326 just has to go and be a bitch.
01:09.48Kaelten[Antiarc lol making the logic worse for you?
01:10.06AntiarcIt doesn't fit into any of my existing models, but I should be able to model it
01:10.09AntiarcJust kinda a pain
01:10.34Chompershahahaha
01:10.34FinAntiarc: thanks - I thought that was the case but wasn't quite sure...
01:10.35hyperChipmunkCodayus: and none of that is the items
01:10.40Chompersholy shit, this prot paladin thing works
01:10.54GagorianAntiarc: Dont you pass isCrit to class modules?
01:11.03hyperChipmunkmouse over an item and see how quickly it loads
01:11.18hyperChipmunkor switch to the rep tab
01:11.29CodayusYes.
01:11.53CodayusIf I could be bothered, I'd count the requests and total data transferred to mouse over one item and get a tooltip.
01:11.57CodayusIt must be amazing.
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01:12.23AntiarcGagorian: For some stuff, yeah
01:12.28AntiarcGagorian: But it's a general solution
01:12.33AntiarcJust adds another multiplier, which is a pain
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01:12.49trhwow.. never seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA even though it's pretty old and good :)
01:12.57GagorianYar. Better scan for ItemIsEquipped(38326) on PLAYER_INVENTORY_CHANGED
01:13.10GagorianAntiarc: Oh, what if the player crits for less than 100?
01:13.15GagorianThreat is actually reduced? :)
01:13.20hyperChipmunkCodayus: or click on the talent tree and wait for the image of your level to be retrieved
01:13.24Finis this a stupid way of copying functions: local func = function(first, second) return MyAddon:myFunction(first, second) end -- to be able to use func(first, second)?
01:13.27AntiarcGagorian: I suspect it's floored at 0
01:13.28Finthat seems wrong
01:13.50Fin-stupid+possible
01:14.00CIA-2203rabbit * r42151 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: Revert.
01:14.40hyperChipmunkoh, I'm sorry
01:14.47GagorianFin: Why would you want to do that? :)
01:14.49hyperChipmunkthe level image is actually a FLASH ELEMENT
01:14.49CodayusI'm pretty sure the bulk of the issues come from the crazy XML they're using, but...ugh, there's so *much* wrong...
01:14.56Codayus...
01:15.01hyperChipmunkright click it
01:15.06Finall I want to do is make a shorter function name, basically, for something defined as MyAddon:myFunction
01:15.12Fin+Gagorian:
01:15.32Codayustrh: Seen the other WoW/Coulton stuff by the same author?
01:15.39trhCodayus: not yet
01:15.51CodayusSome are better I think...all are awesome.
01:16.05WobinBRK is such a good hunter column
01:16.17CodayusRandom comment:  Clicking an armory link while a youtube video is playing makes the youtube video pause for a second.
01:16.22CodayusWhich is impressive.
01:16.30Finwhat browser are you using?
01:16.34CodayusFirefox.
01:16.36hyperChipmunkI can't believe the image of the level number is a flash element
01:16.42hyperChipmunkthat blows my mind
01:16.43GagorianFin: Do it like you first suggested, rather
01:16.55CodayusActually, have you seen what they've done with links?  <a> tags aren't good enough.
01:17.02Codayusjavascript:ajaxLink("item-info.xml?i=22420")
01:17.05CodayusORL?
01:17.13CodayusORLY, even.
01:17.27CodayusWait, it *IS* a flash element.  WTF
01:17.32FinGagorian: but then I have to call it as func(_, arg, arg), no?
01:17.39hyperChipmunkyea, i was serious
01:17.50CodayusIs that the only flash element?
01:18.01hyperChipmunkarena rating are too
01:18.06hyperChipmunkand arena logo
01:18.08GagorianFin: Yes but it's more efficient
01:18.27hyperChipmunksorry, arena ranking
01:18.37CodayusThe search box is too...
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01:18.43hyperChipmunkno it isn't
01:18.46CodayusI think?  Hmm
01:18.51hyperChipmunkit has a flash overlay
01:18.53FinI guess it's because I'm trying to copy an object method rather than function
01:18.55FinOK
01:18.58hyperChipmunkbut you can block it and use the search box
01:19.03CodayusWhat is:  http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/images/searchbox.swf
01:19.06CodayusAh
01:19.09CodayusA flash overlay
01:19.10hyperChipmunki dunno why it's there
01:19.11CodayusOF COURSE.
01:19.18CodayusFor the sparkling thing I guess?
01:19.23hyperChipmunkbut it was blocking my ability to use the search box, so i disabled it
01:19.25Finsparkles!
01:19.25hyperChipmunkyea
01:19.26CodayusThat runs in a circle around the box?
01:19.34hyperChipmunkthat must be it
01:19.39hyperChipmunkbecause mine doesn't have a sparkle
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01:22.44Kaydeethreehey antiarc, you alive?
01:22.52AntiarcYup
01:23.11Kaydeethreeanother feature request for omen if you don't mind: hiding the resize grip when the frame is locked
01:23.16AntiarcYeah, it's on the list :)
01:23.29RoartindonGagorian: "Yar. Better scan for ItemIsEquipped(38326) on PLAYER_INVENTORY_CHANGED" <-- what item is 38326?
01:23.54GagorianPrism of Inner Calm
01:24.54hyperChipmunkCodayus: http://69.14.77.214/armory.jpg
01:25.10hyperChipmunkyou can see the flash stuff cleverly integrated with the rest of the page
01:25.45FinGagorian: out of interest, why was the first way I asked about for copying a function more efficient than the second?
01:25.47RoartindonDoes Threat support things like threat reducing trinkets? Fetish of the Sand Reaver?
01:25.52Codayusheh
01:26.10Finis local something = function(arg, arg) inefficient somehow?
01:26.21Wobinno?
01:26.48AntiarcRoartindon: Yes
01:26.59AntiarcRoartindon: That's easy to handle as it takes the form of a buff
01:27.02AntiarcThis one's a passive aura
01:27.05RoartindonAh
01:27.42GagorianFin: Because you'd use double function calls and a GETGLOBAL for each call instead of running the local copy of the function
01:28.16kenlyrici need to find a better nes emulator, that lets me map quicksave/quickload to a different key.
01:28.29CIA-2203funkydude * r42152 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (Emeriss.lua Ysondre.lua): BigWigs_Azeroth: tweaks and fixes
01:28.51AntiarcI remember Nesticle being decent
01:29.23FinGagorian: OK, thanks
01:29.57kenlyricfceu just sucks, I need to find another one. I
01:30.13kenlyricwish I could just play them on zsnes, which is awesome.
01:30.17gnorlishnesticle is still decent
01:30.44ckknightkenlyric: what you playing?
01:30.58Aenslaedis there any way in omen to disable the screen going red on aggro warning and have only the sound play?
01:31.06hyperChipmunkhttp://www.swmoore.com/kt_fruitsandvegetables.html wtf
01:31.21kenlyricjust nes games in general, though someone peaked my interested in zelda :)
01:32.50Stan3mm
01:32.51Stan3http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/boo-did-i-skeerd-u.jpg
01:33.08ckknightlol, hyperChipmunk
01:33.09CIA-2203antiarc * r42153 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: (log message trimmed)
01:33.09CIA-22Threat-1.0:
01:33.09CIA-22- Fixed a problem with misdirection.
01:33.09CIA-22- Implemented handling for Prism of Inner Calm
01:33.09CIA-22(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30621). Reduction is applied before any other
01:33.10CIA-22modifiers - 150 on physical crit, 1000 on non-physical crit. Reduction is
01:33.12CIA-22floored at 0, so you can't end up with negative threat if you crit for less than
01:33.23AntiarcAenslaed: No, but I can add it.
01:33.26hyperChipmunkAntiarc: default TPS is still retardedly fast
01:35.28Stan3http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/kittywave2.jpg
01:35.32CIA-2203funkydude * r42154 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: bugfix
01:35.50AenslaedAntiarc: much appreciated!
01:36.29Wobinicanhascheezburger wins for both the most utterly obnoxious internet meme, and oh god it's so cute it's acceptable.
01:36.42CIA-2203kemayo * r42155 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua:
01:36.42CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
01:36.42CIA-22-Fu: '' ~= false.
01:36.42CIA-22-Fu: Fix sorting for offline people.
01:36.48Stan3Wobin: true :P
01:36.55hyperChipmunk~lol
01:36.56purlextra, extra, read all about it, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.
01:37.02hyperChipmunkshut up, purl
01:37.08WobinIt puts the truth to: http://xkcd.com/c231.html
01:37.10Stan3lol
01:37.16trhpurl: lol
01:37.16purlextra, extra, read all about it, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.
01:37.17hyperChipmunkWobin: that the cat-stapling one?
01:37.24Wobinnope
01:37.29WobinYou're a kitty!
01:37.32Stan3is purl a bot?
01:37.36Wobinyes
01:37.36Kaydeethreeya
01:37.37hyperChipmunklol
01:37.40Stan3mm
01:37.43Stan3dumb one
01:37.49ckknightpurl's just some guy that responds to you only if you prefix with ~
01:37.55ckknightpurl, you suck
01:37.56purland very well I might add
01:38.02Stan3hehe
01:38.21trh~purl
01:38.24Stan3we'll I love this kitty pics
01:38.30Stan3can't get enough of them^^
01:40.37hyperChipmunkhttp://xkcd.com/c262.html
01:40.40trhi'm in ur fizx lab, testn ur string therry
01:40.58CIA-2203kemayo * r42156 10AuldLangSyne/Info/AuldLangSyne_Info.toc:
01:40.58CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
01:40.59CIA-22-Give Info an optdep on Note, so if people are running unembedded on their first run the player notes will be imported properly.
01:41.02Wobin"rrrr"
01:41.15hyperChipmunkhehe
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01:44.12CIA-2203ckknight * r42157 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua Position/Position.lua): CowTip - move "Enable" to the top of each submenu
01:44.50Kemayockknight: AuldLangSyne's fubar module doesn't have the minimap icon, position, or detach tooltip options available in its menu.  What causes that?
01:45.07durcynyou have to explicitly set them
01:45.27ckknightKemayo: does AuldLangSyne have FuBarPlugin-2.0 as a mixin or are you using something else as a proxy
01:45.30ckknight?
01:46.51vhaarrKemayo: Take a look at BigWigs\Options.lua on OnInit
01:46.55vhaarryou're probably using a proxy
01:46.57Kemayockknight: AuldLangSyne has a module, 'Fu', which has FuBarPlugin-2.0 as a mixin.  Fu.OnMenuRequest = AuldLangSyne.menu.
01:47.07ckknightno, it'll fuck it
01:47.08ckknightup
01:47.33Stan3why doesn't pitbull have the "show icon" thing in the fubar plugin menu like all the other addons have?
01:47.41ckknightsince AuldLangSyne doesn't have FuBarPlugin-2.0 as a mixin, you shouldn't expect the FuBarPlugin-2.0 options to go into the options
01:48.07ckknightStan3: because it doesn't have text, only an icon
01:48.08hyperChipmunkbecause it doesn't have text
01:48.12Stan3:(
01:48.24Stan3Can we have text?
01:48.27hyperChipmunkif you hid icon, you may as well use hide plugin
01:48.58ckknightStan3: um, why?
01:49.03ckknightStan3: you don't deserve text.
01:49.13Stan3ok :(
01:49.29Stan3*continues cleaning the floor*
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02:02.28BankZhmm, AuldLangSyne added fubar support, but you cant set the position on the bar
02:03.41ckknightKemayo: I believe you could somehow inject the FuBarPlugin options into the normal options table
02:03.49ckknightthere's a method in Dewdrop to do that
02:04.10vhaarrahem
02:04.15vhaarrKemayo: did you even see what I wrote?
02:05.24Kemayovhaarr: I did, yes. :)
02:05.30mikmaAntiarc: i got error with priest and silence but didn't have time to copypaste it :8
02:05.30vhaarrwell respond, then
02:05.34vhaarrsaving ckknight and me more time
02:05.37CIA-2203strange * r42158 10FuriousTask/FuriousTask.lua:
02:05.37CIA-22FuriousTask:
02:05.37CIA-22- UI improvements
02:05.38CIA-2203kemayo * r42159 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua:
02:05.38CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
02:05.38CIA-22-Fu: Use vhaar's nifty hack for the menu.
02:05.58mikmaAntiarc: oh i just remembered that it's logged, i'll get the error now
02:06.22KemayoSorry, I was looking at what you were doing and seeing how it would apply to me.
02:06.28KemayoBankZ: Fixed now.
02:06.55CIA-2203strange * r42160 10FuriousWaitlist/FuriousWaitlist.lua:
02:06.55CIA-22FuriousWaitlist:
02:06.55CIA-22- fixed a bug in the invite code
02:08.12CIA-2203cryect * r42161 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Couple more fixes to where elemental data is handled for being taken
02:08.12mikmaAntiarc: http://wow.reaktio.net/b.txt
02:08.39Kemayovhaarr / ckknight: Thank you very much for your pointers!
02:10.07CIA-2203cryect * r42162 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Fixes a bug with reporting Overhealing
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02:18.46Finis there a way to find out, inside an AceOptions args table, what the name of that arg is?
02:19.59FinI'm asking because I want to create an alias for a slash command, (eg, /slash arg => /slash alias), but want to keep the alias hidden and am wondering if I can without copying the arg table
02:21.09hyperChipmunkseekrit alias
02:21.11Antiarcmikma: Already fixed
02:22.07Daemonanazrethim mindblade and offhand from netherspite make me a happy little shadowpriest twink ;)
02:22.25FinhyperChipmunk: undoubled alias!
02:22.37vhaarrDaemona: we still have main char mages who want nazrethim :P
02:23.15Daemonawell i guess i can allow myself rolling on it... Mains are bitching about loot up to illidan since 2 weeks ;)
02:24.45[Liq]Yo folks... check out my AV and the amount of Bots :> http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5361/avbotsgd5.jpg
02:25.12Cryecthaha
02:25.33Daemonao.O
02:28.08KemayoFin: If you put it in a group with pass=true the name of the option will be passed as the first argument to all the functions.
02:29.25[Liq]http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5769/avbotscavegx6.jpg
02:29.35Finhttp://fin.pastey.net/70026
02:29.43FinKemayo: aha! brilliant, thanks! :)
02:29.55GagorianIs it over-optimization (saving a few kB) to nil out functions that are only run once? :p
02:30.22Finis making the functions local not the same?
02:30.35AntiarcDear lord. I love what Auctioneer does for me, but it has more than tripled my UI's RAM usage
02:30.55Finlocal func = function() return runOnce() end -- ??
02:33.14Gagorianwell, runOnce() will still take some space in the namespace it's defined
02:34.13Finit was just an example - runOnce() is just whatever the single-use function is doing
02:35.30RogueShadowAntiarc: Amen to that.
02:36.37FinKemayo: don't suppose you know of somewhere I can see an example of using passValue in an AceOptions DB, do you?
02:37.11Finor, er, pass, rather
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02:37.30jmeooh error
02:37.45jmeMessage: ..\AddOns\FuBar_KCIFu\KCIFu.lua line 47:
02:37.46jme<PROTECTED>
02:37.58GagorianFin: Well, if you've got a local variable that stores a function it will take some space to store
02:38.51Antiarchttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Denmark_street_sign.jpg
02:40.20FinOK, how about for x = 1, 1 local func = function() return firstThingRunOnce() end end -- ?? :)
02:41.27ckknightFin: what're you trying to do?
02:42.33hyperChipmunkflood the channel; what else does he do?
02:42.40FinI want to create an alias for a slash command, (eg, /slash arg => /slash alias), but want to keep the alias hidden and am wondering if I can without copying the arg table
02:42.56Finaww
02:43.05Fin:(
02:44.09hyperChipmunkthe last time i'd seen one person responsible for such a large percentage of lines of text in this channel was back when there was only like 5 of us in it
02:45.15GagorianFin: Yes, that would work but it wouldn't allow you to access the function when you want :P
02:45.47ckknightFin: what's the point?
02:47.01Finckknight: to create command aliases for users (and me) so it's possible to change a slash command's usage but keep the existing options
02:47.25ckknighthrm
02:47.33ckknightjust use tab completion, imo
02:48.12hyperChipmunkare you trying to localize your command args or something?
02:48.41hyperChipmunkshould be possible to just localize the table key
02:49.06vhaarra level 60 paladin approaches my level 29 alt in Ironforge, trades me and inserts a level 56 weapon
02:49.08vhaarr"20 g ok"
02:49.18ckknight...
02:49.20hyperChipmunkwtf
02:49.23ckknightuncool
02:49.26vhaarr:P
02:49.32vhaarrbest thing was his name, though
02:49.33ckknightunless it's a mistake or something
02:49.34hyperChipmunki hope you kicked 'im in da nuts
02:49.34vhaarr"Smartperson"
02:49.40ckknightlol
02:49.41Fineg, there was a slash command /mod cmd, it's changed to /mod newcmd, but I want people to be able to still type /mod cmd without having both show up in the help / FuBar menu / whatever
02:49.42hyperChipmunkhaha
02:50.45Fin?
02:51.02hyperChipmunkre: Smartperson
02:51.33vhaarrckknight: so the signature for OnEmbedDisable is OnEmbedDisable(module) -- what's the difference between 'self' and 'module' in this function for a mixin?
02:53.12ckknightself is the library/mixin itself
02:53.28vhaarrah
02:53.30ckknightmodule is the object you've embedded into (e.g. an addon)
02:53.48vhaarrright
02:54.23Chompersckknight; you've made playing a paladin fun again
02:54.28Chompers:)
02:54.51ckknight:-)
02:54.55Chompers10 vs me, i win
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02:55.14ckknightyep.
02:55.21ckknightChompers: oh, be sure to get a shield spike
02:55.25Chompersi need a shield spike
02:55.28Chomperssnap :p
02:55.28ckknightI got one
02:55.35ckknightit's pimptastic
02:55.40Chompersi can imagine
02:55.41ckknightbtw, prot spec works in pvp, too
02:55.47ckknightyou just gotta play a bit differently
02:56.00Chompersi also need some better gear, 33 mail doesn't cut it
02:56.45ckknightick
02:57.02Chompersshame i get LOADS of msbt spam
02:57.16ckknightalright, I guess it's time to whip me up some secure pie
02:57.27Chompersi'm looking forward to your SCT mod ckk, if you ever make one ;)
02:57.34ckknightlol
02:57.35ckknightmaybe
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02:57.41ckknightmanifest destiny and all
03:00.04art3misif you loved me you'd come down and let me EAT YOUR BRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNNNNS
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03:05.27CIA-2203gagorian * r42163 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
03:05.27CIA-22DrDamage:
03:05.27CIA-22- Nils out the player module once data has been assimilated
03:05.27CIA-22- Nils out actionbar detection code once it has been run once
03:05.27CIA-22- Ends up saving about ~30kB
03:07.17GagorianWell, now I can't clear assimilated data in OnDisable because it won't be available
03:07.34Gagorianbut, better to reduce functioning memory cost than disabled memory cost :p
03:08.30CIA-2203fin * r42164 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: (log message trimmed)
03:08.30CIA-22Prat: AltNames:
03:08.30CIA-22<PROTECTED>
03:08.30CIA-22<PROTECTED>
03:08.30CIA-22<PROTECTED>
03:08.31CIA-22<PROTECTED>
03:08.32JoshBorkestatic memory cost doesn't really matter
03:08.33CIA-22<PROTECTED>
03:10.17GagorianJoshBorke: Well, even if it doesn't -actually- matter that much, smaller is always better, at least in eyes of most users.
03:10.34art3misonly a few more days!
03:10.37JoshBorketis true
03:10.40Finart3mis: until?
03:10.50art3missneak preview of transformers on the 2nd
03:11.01art3misi love being in new york!
03:11.51GagorianKek.. My addon's AceOptions table is 27% of initial memory cost
03:11.58Gagorian-__-
03:12.16ckknightyea, probably :-P
03:12.19art3misyou didnt grow uip with the transformers cartoon fin ;P
03:12.26art3misand the toys
03:13.09NightHawkTheSanethe toys were awesome.
03:14.04art3misheh
03:14.11Finart3mis: I'm insanely jealous and I hate you because I'm not going, is closer to the truth
03:14.22art3misalright then thats better ;)
03:15.06CIA-2203kemayo * r42165 10AuldLangSyne/Info/Info.lua:
03:15.06CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
03:15.06CIA-22-Added a nil check.
03:15.16CIA-2203rabbit * r42166 10oRA2/ (11 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: Added CTRACompatLayer-1.0 for shorthand slash commands and registering addon message response handlers.
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03:15.45Finhmph
03:16.50art3misdot worry ill come home and tell you all about it
03:16.52art3misdont
03:17.07art3misthe latest preview actually has the transforming sound btw
03:17.18CIA-2203rabbit * r42167 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: Leader/Item: Remove debug code.
03:17.29art3misnow all we need is a DECEPTICONS ATTACK! and Autobots Transform and Roll out
03:18.02art3misthat be a butt pirate?
03:18.15ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: ping
03:18.28art3mishi zealot..on a steeeek
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03:19.24NightHawkTheSaneealot on a steak?
03:19.32NightHawkTheSaneer, zealot
03:20.21durcyn<PROTECTED>
03:20.23NightHawkTheSanei could go for a steak, possibly with a zealot
03:20.32vhaarrdurcyn: oO
03:20.49art3misoptimum added like 30 new HD channels
03:20.59art3mischannel 1, kungfu in HD
03:21.11art3mischannel 2, Horror movies in HD
03:21.17art3misand a bunch of others
03:21.19art3mis;)
03:21.28NightHawkTheSanewhere's the porn in HD?
03:21.36art3mison dvd ;P
03:21.39durcynvhaarr: that's about what i said when i saw it =P
03:21.39NightHawkTheSanelol
03:21.58art3misim watching return of the living dead right now
03:22.04art3miscuz its awesome
03:22.11art3mis"send more paramedics"
03:22.15art3mis"
03:22.21art3mis"send more cops"
03:22.30art3mistwo of the best lines in a movie evah
03:22.37CIA-2203rabbit * r42168 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: Leader/Item: Bugfix.
03:24.59vhaarrdurcyn: well this is pretty silly
03:25.10vhaarrthere's some inconsistency between aceconsole and dewdrop here
03:26.51NightHawkTheSaneoh man, like maybe ten people in this room will find this funny, but I lol'd: "GRAVEL:  SALES TAX! SALES TAX! SALES TAX!  I'M CRAZY!"
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03:27.00starlonIs ThreatToKTM obsolete now?
03:29.20art3mis"no they werent crazy, crazy people do not explode when sunlight hits them, i dont care how crazy they are!"
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03:30.31rubikomen not working on Netherspite or something? (it's our first time on him.. but tanks don't pop on top of list when they have red ray.. they supposed to? or no?)
03:33.05CIA-2203rabbit * r42169 10oRA2/ (Leader/MainTank.lua Optional/PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: Work around AceConsole-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0 inconsistency with regards to validate on options in a passing group.
03:33.06vhaarrdurcyn: try now
03:34.46CIA-2203gagorian * r42170 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
03:34.46CIA-22DrDamage:
03:34.46CIA-22- Minor optimization
03:36.51durcynvhaarr: hm, works for PT, not for MT
03:37.20durcynvhaarr: get "Leader/MainTank Set Maintank: [1] [Playername]"  then "oRA2: 1. is now set to []"
03:37.35durcynplayername IS bracketed
03:37.53CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r42171 10/branches/StarBurst/StarBurst.lua:
03:37.53CIA-22StarBurst:
03:37.53CIA-22- remove FuBarPlugin as mixin
03:37.53CIA-22- fixed the "Character Frame" portrait texture; I'm not really sure how it works, but I hope I did it in such a way as to enable other texture objects to be used also
03:37.53CIA-22- Shinyness Level: Cherries
03:37.58durcynstrangely enough the other account i'm testing on is showing MT correctly
03:41.11durcynoh, of course i didn't update it.  meh.
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03:42.41ckknighthyperChipmunk: named your circular menu thing StarBurst?
03:43.12hyperChipmunkyea, I figure if you took it over, you could make it StarFish without much fuss
03:43.37ckknightnah, I'm going with CheeseWheel
03:43.39hyperChipmunkI'm really pleased with how far I've gotten
03:43.45hyperChipmunkyou should take a look
03:43.46durcynhyperChipmunk: you making a candy reference or a farscape reference
03:44.22ckknightmmm... everyone likes cheese
03:44.31ckknightexcept people who are lactose intolerant
03:44.39ckknightbut those guys suck
03:44.40hyperChipmunkthe example stuff I got doesn't do multi-level menus but it does work; set the attachTo of one to be the other and see
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03:48.00hyperChipmunkckknight: once i learn AceModuleCore, I figure each 'star' can be made a module
03:48.18ckknighthrm
03:48.52hyperChipmunkand the structure is basically completely defined by the attachTo field of each one
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03:49.42hyperChipmunkwell, that, plus an 'order' field for within a star
03:49.48hyperChipmunkbut I haven't gotten to that yet
03:51.02CIA-2203fin * r42172 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: AltNames: tooltips - added flag to check whether the tooltip should've been altered or not
03:52.40hyperChipmunkI don't really have your experience with module/framework systems, so I tried to make it as flexible as possible and get the core stuff straightened out
03:53.31ckknightdon't use any secure stuff yet, hrm
03:54.19hyperChipmunki don't know anything about secure stuff
03:54.32hyperChipmunkso I wouldn't know if I were using it or not =P
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04:02.16CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r42173 10/branches/StarBurst/StarBurst.lua:
04:02.16CIA-22StarBurst:
04:02.16CIA-22- samples layed out in multiple levels
04:02.16CIA-22- current star is raised to the top to avoid ambiguity with overlapping buttons
04:02.16CIA-22- Shinyness Level: 23%
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04:02.31Kemayockknight: Have you considered moving some of PitBull's module-loading stuff into AceModuleCore?  It seems like something that most modular addons might want to make use of.
04:03.23hyperChipmunk^--- that version is really snazzy =)
04:04.25hyperChipmunki need to make a third test menu =P
04:04.46hyperChipmunkor start some real ones >8P
04:05.27hyperChipmunkit's too much fun to play with
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04:08.33CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r42174 10/branches/StarBurst/StarBurst.lua:
04:08.33CIA-22StarBurst:
04:08.33CIA-22- child star closes when returning back to its parent level
04:09.14XuerianhyperChipmunk: Wtfisstarburst?
04:09.48hyperChipmunkdownload and try it
04:09.54Xuerianmrugh.
04:09.55durcynit's the FTL drive from Farscape, duh.
04:10.08hyperChipmunkbind a key and tell me what you think
04:10.29hyperChipmunk(I like ctrl-rightclick, personally)
04:10.51XuerianhyperChipmunk: Suppose I have to svnexp to get it at this point.
04:11.12hyperChipmunkit's not even close to a real addon
04:11.18hyperChipmunkjust some proof of concept so far
04:11.28hyperChipmunkbut it's really spiffy >8D
04:11.34hyperChipmunkbut yea
04:11.37hyperChipmunkit's not in trunk
04:11.46Xuerianlies
04:12.47art3misis that the circular button thingy?
04:13.25hyperChipmunkyea
04:13.37art3misdo the buttons grow?
04:13.52hyperChipmunkgrow?
04:13.58art3misyeah like a star burst
04:14.03art3misits got 8 "points"
04:14.05hyperChipmunkwtf
04:14.15hyperChipmunki'm just trying to make it work
04:14.23art3misyou can toggle them out or in(hidden)
04:14.32hyperChipmunkflying-around stuff can go in once it works
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04:14.54art3misyou can you have a collapseable bar depending on what you want
04:15.03art3misthat would be kind of neat
04:15.16hyperChipmunkfeel free to add it in
04:15.23art3misyou understand what im saying?
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04:15.38hyperChipmunkhave you used it yet?
04:15.49art3misnope
04:15.56hyperChipmunkuse first, suggest after =p
04:15.58art3misim just thinking ahead of neat things to do with it ;P
04:16.51art3misthat would be rad, have one big button with collapseable bars on it.. tick em to toggle them visible or hidden and they rotate to form paralelle lines like uyour current action bars
04:17.06art3misso like fire is all in one frost all in another profs in one
04:17.08art3misetc
04:17.23art3misthat would be an awesome bar mod
04:17.51hyperChipmunki don't know how it would be usable with combat actions, so i haven't tried them yet
04:18.07art3missorta like a swiss army knife of action bars ;P
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04:18.48hyperChipmunkbut once the framework is set in, I'd welcome an action-button module
04:19.39art3missee what im doing here is throwing out ideas for the more skilled people than me ;P
04:19.39art3misthose who can do, those who can't teach, those who REALLY can't do, think.
04:19.54hyperChipmunkdude, if I can do it, anyone can
04:19.56hyperChipmunktrust me
04:20.11art3misoh its more a case of being motivated ;P
04:20.17hyperChipmunkit's not exactly a jewel of programming perfection
04:20.24art3mis<--- really lazy
04:20.31durcynyou're destined to a fun-filled life as a middle manager, artemis
04:20.41hyperChipmunkso those who WON'T, think?
04:20.44art3misceo right now actually
04:20.53art3misceo/cto
04:21.06hyperChipmunk...and only employee
04:21.09art3misyup
04:21.25art3misvery little work and decent enough cash ;P
04:21.36durcynembezzlement eh
04:21.43hyperChipmunkI'm High Imperial Commander of my fake company
04:22.14art3misdsorta, it's my consulting company ;P
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04:23.51cervanismmm middle management
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04:26.06CIA-2203daviesh * r42175 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
04:26.06CIA-22AtlasLoot:
04:26.06CIA-22- Korean Update
04:28.34NeoTronso did they recently nerf the murlocs at moragrim to only have 7k HP?
04:28.34XuerianIs the latest 1.9x wau updating everything indiscriminately? o_0
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04:28.35nymbiaXuerian: library updates maybe?
04:28.35Xueriannymbia: I guess... No-ext though?
04:28.46Xueriannymbia: It was pulling revs as far back as 13x
04:28.52art3misi blame ckk
04:28.57art3miswho in turn blames nymbia
04:29.03art3misso...........
04:29.15nymbiaXuerian: maybe the other thing then ;)
04:29.19Kaydeethreewoo! finally. leotheras down with 4 dead
04:29.27Kaydeethreeabout freaking time. 2 1% wipes tonight
04:29.44CryectCongrats
04:32.15XuerianhyperChipmunk: Whar does ah bind dah keyz >_>
04:32.27Kaydeethreenow to crank call vashj before we port out of the instance
04:32.28hyperChipmunkin the bind key menu?
04:32.37XuerianhyperChipmunk: I totally didn't see it there >.o
04:33.05XuerianAhh there's no header
04:33.16hyperChipmunkain't there?
04:33.32Finanyone use ClosetGnome_OhNoes?
04:33.45durcynFin: i have in the past
04:33.55Findurcyn: does it work well?
04:34.01XuerianhyperChipmunk: It's there the header isn't
04:34.04Fin"in the past" sounds like it wasn't perfect
04:34.04XuerianhyperChipmunk: Gunning for sprocket?
04:34.22durcynFin: not really.  it's based on hp percentage, so it's either too soon or too late
04:34.34hyperChipmunkXuerian: never seen/used/heard of it except for people asking me if that's what I was doing
04:34.40durcyni just set a 'naked' set to a hotkey and use that instead
04:34.51XuerianhyperChipmunk: You missed out then. Sprocket was pure win =\
04:34.56Findurcyn: thanks, that's what I'd wondered - I've tried similar mods in the past and they've had the same problems
04:35.03durcynSprocket had sex with Jesus.
04:35.05durcynand won.
04:35.08XuerianhyperChipmunk: it'd be worth going to a *** 1.x server to see it working
04:35.20Finlucky jesus
04:37.15pastamancerhyperChipmunk: check out SecurePie
04:38.16hyperChipmunkwhy does everyone want me to make other ppls addons
04:38.25hyperChipmunkif you want those addons, use them!
04:39.03cervanishyperChipmunk, you are apparently the awesome :P
04:39.13NimbleRabitwhat was sprocket
04:39.38hyperChipmunkI can assure you I am not awesome for ANY the
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04:40.10durcynSprocket was a radial menu addon.  you could assign a ring to pop up on a keypress or button.  that ring had 8 sub buttons that could have items or spells directly inserted, or could pop up secondary rings.
04:40.12XuerianhyperChipmunk: because it no workie anymore
04:40.23durcynand it worked in combat.  it was seriously sweet.
04:40.36durcynthen 2.0 came and destroyed sprocket, and all were sad.
04:40.40XuerianFricking secure frames >_o
04:41.04durcyni'm still sad, come to think of it.  poor sprocket.
04:41.44CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r42176 10/branches/StarBurst/ (StarBurst.lua bindings.xml):
04:41.44CIA-22StarBurst:
04:41.44CIA-22- made keybinding header show
04:41.55XuerianWith clique and sprocket I had no actionbuttons visible
04:42.24hyperChipmunkI don't have either, and still no actionbuttons visible
04:42.31hyperChipmunkkeyboard ftw
04:43.20WobinOmen still doesn't seem to catch pet threat on dismount from attack
04:44.22Kaydeethreedamn... it feels good whacking vashj after getting stuck on leotheras for a few days
04:44.53durcynit feels even better never setting foot in ssc again after that
04:45.17Kaydeethreethat's probably not happening for us for a while... all we've killed in TK is the void reaver
04:45.56durcyneh, if your aoe's worth the paper it's made out of, solarian isn't hard
04:51.30CIA-2203moshiah * r42177 10FuriousWaitlist/FuriousWaitlist.lua: FuriousWaitlist/FuriousWaitlist.lua - Added FindandRemove function
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04:58.42ckknightback
04:59.09ckknightKemayo: yes, I have thought of it, still considering it.
04:59.58ckknighthyperChipmunk: yea, I'm gonna do my own addon that's fully secure, but basically use yours as inspiration
05:00.06ckknightonce I get something working, I'll tell you
05:00.21hyperChipmunkthat's what I was hoping; I'd like to contribute
05:00.27ckknightoh yea
05:00.33ckknightI have no issues whatsoever with that
05:00.44ckknightbtw: CheeseWheel.
05:00.49ckknightit's just too awesome.
05:00.53hyperChipmunki just figured I'd do what I could to get you off the ground
05:01.18kergothwhat addon is this?
05:01.29ckknightCheeseWheel, kergoth
05:01.42NightHawkTheSaneI could go for a wheel of cheese.
05:01.46ckknight## Notes: Circular menu, with cheesy goodness for the whole family.
05:01.46hyperChipmunkstarburst being usurped =)
05:02.12kergothah
05:02.12hyperChipmunkit deserves a better author than I >8P
05:02.26NightHawkTheSaneand shit, my dvd drive is failing
05:03.51AntiarcOk, so...warlock pets are getting more threat than the base, but they don't look to be scaling
05:04.20AntiarcMy VW causes between 738 and 752 threat with Torment at both 690 and 826 AP
05:05.08hyperChipmunkso wait
05:05.21hyperChipmunkyou're saying you have some sort of...VW bug?
05:05.28Antiarc~lart hyperChipmunk
05:05.28purlbeats hyperChipmunk into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy
05:05.42NightHawkTheSanelol
05:05.45hyperChipmunk>8D
05:05.51NightHawkTheSanepurl, hyperChipmunk++
05:09.33AntiarcYeah, this VW is not scaling with +AP at all
05:09.39AntiarcPerhaps it's only affected by spell damage?
05:09.44AntiarcBut I thought that just gave the VW AP
05:10.28AntiarcPet has 1073 AP, Torment is the same amt of threat.
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05:11.21CIA-2203kemayo * r42178 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua:
05:11.21CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
05:11.21CIA-22-Fu: Add some more checks in case of nils.
05:13.16starlonAntiarc, is ThreatToKTM obsolete now?
05:14.17CIA-2203samuelcup * r42179 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.toc Locales/zhCN.lua): ClassTimer: zhCN tranlation added by lostcup
05:14.29AntiarcNot obsolete, but not needed anymore
05:14.34AntiarcIt lets you set MT targets and such
05:15.00starlonOk
05:15.01ckknightthis secure pie stuff is confusing
05:16.30AntiarcNachoPie?
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05:16.42ckknightlol
05:16.51ckknightCheesy
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05:18.29AntiarcSo 750 Threat for Toremtn Rank 7 seemingly regardless of AP.
05:19.24hyperChipmunkkenco really doesn't know when he's sounding like a total retard, srsly
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05:20.21NightHawkTheSanea nacho pie would be tastey. mixed with some peppers, in a nice cheese sauce.
05:20.21NightHawkTheSanemaybe tomatos sprinkled on top
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05:21.14mikma<+Antiarc> Not obsolete, but not needed anymore
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05:21.28mikmahow come? does Threat-1.0 handle the same things now?
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05:21.39ckknightyep, mikma
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05:24.02mikmathat's neat
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05:29.09abyssichateckknight: did you add a fadetime on unit tooltips after your grab the cursor away from the units?
05:29.15norgannahey admins: how do i get svn access?
05:29.26NightHawkTheSanethere's a thread on the forum that says how.
05:29.33ckknightnorganna: there should be a wiki page...
05:29.35NightHawkTheSanemore or less send an email to a google group
05:29.39ckknightabyssichate: I added a Fade module
05:29.40sedatedChipmunkthere's a wiki page...sec
05:30.07sedatedChipmunkhttp://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_upload_access
05:30.17abyssichateoh ok
05:30.28abyssichateI reloaded my ui without restarting wow, that's why I don't see it
05:30.35ckknightabyssichate: ah, yea.
05:30.48ckknightnorganna: what you planning on doing?
05:31.17sedatedChipmunkdeleting all mods, prolly
05:31.35ckknightoh noes
05:31.37ckknighthe's a spy!
05:31.40ckknight:-P
05:32.05norgannaneed access to maintain nSideBar
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05:32.23mikmahttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/
05:32.24sedatedChipmunkwb O_o
05:32.26mikmajust gotta love that guy
05:32.33ckknightyea.
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05:34.02ckknightFin: *shrug*
05:34.34Finjust have to hook AddHistoryLine I guess and save it
05:34.39NightHawkTheSanemikma: my favorite is the way he continually ignores Antiarc's reasonable compromise
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05:35.34ckknightFin: seems like it'd work
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05:36.07mikmaAntiarc should just run over that dude, completely
05:36.19mikmastart sending false data to KTM and make them mess up lol
05:36.24starlonHe's not going to quit ignoring either. Might as well give up on that quest.
05:36.56sedatedChipmunkfalse data? just nil the entire addon
05:37.11sedatedChipmunkthismod = nil
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05:37.31NightHawkTheSanewait till version 20, and hardlock anyone running ktm ;)
05:37.45sedatedChipmunkhehe
05:37.59sedatedChipmunktell them they're running an unknown version
05:38.09starlonI wouldn't do that to my raid. :\
05:38.20ckknightsedatedChipmunk: actually since it stores the mod as a local in each file, that does nothing.
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05:38.31starlonUnless they keep falling into the water heading to Hydross...
05:38.32sedatedChipmunkckknight:  that was 'mod'
05:38.42sedatedChipmunki think 'thismod' is the global
05:38.49mikmanow, he'll call me a troll and tells me to leave the page: "As a user, having (3) is needed since some stupid players still use this addon. Oh well they'll convert soon."
05:38.57ckknightsedatedChipmunk: right, and it's never used except at the initial load.
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05:39.50sedatedChipmunki know there's one
05:39.51sedatedChipmunkmy?
05:39.52ckknightyou're a troll, mikma
05:39.59mikma*cry*
05:40.05ckknightseriously
05:40.10ckknightyou're not providing anything useful
05:40.14ckknightespecially your last part
05:40.23ckknightjust remove the second sentence.
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05:40.28mikmaso? see, this is home much i care:
05:40.40sedatedChipmunkhehe
05:40.53ckknightmeh, I modded you down
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05:41.13mikma*cry more*
05:41.15sedatedChipmunkoh! dissed!
05:41.26sedatedChipmunkgo mod one of his down in retaliation!
05:41.44Funkeh`i think this is where i come in with a really witty sentance like: your mom
05:41.58mikmaor something like NO u
05:41.59abyssichateIs there any replacement for Antagonist? Something to track enemy's buffs and cooldowns
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05:42.29mikmaabyssichate: Natur Enemy CastBar or something
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05:44.37abyssichatesomething aced :/
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05:45.25mikma1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ... must be one huge sentence to say
05:45.27Kaydeethree...
05:45.48sedatedChipmunk"Use Women's One-A-Day, with more calcium for stronger bones...and now, with extra Vitamin D, which emerging research suggests might support improved breast health."
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05:46.05mikmaabyssichate: oh i know the answer to this one, it's, Antagonist
05:46.11art3mismmmmm improved breast health
05:46.12sedatedChipmunkwell, if emerging research suggests it might support it, I'm in
05:46.42mikma9
05:46.59abyssichatemikma: :|
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05:47.31norgannaI would certainly support breasts...
05:47.32mikma10!
05:47.40NightHawkTheSaneill support YOUR breasts.
05:47.51NightHawkTheSanewait...scratch taht.
05:47.55aen`someone have a screenshot of violation?
05:47.58sedatedChipmunkthat's oh, well then they should include you instead
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05:48.51sedatedChipmunkthat's better than a suggestion from emerging research, for sure
05:49.39mikma11
05:49.42sedatedChipmunkin other news, emerging research suggests I might be Superman
05:49.47*** join/#wowace ggilbert_ (n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net)
05:49.56sedatedChipmunkaw, mikma, you backed down
05:49.57NightHawkTheSaneill emerge YOUR resesarch
05:49.57sedatedChipmunkwus
05:50.00mikma12!
05:50.10mikmasedatedChipmunk: i'm charging my troll-energy
05:50.17NightHawkTheSane$ sudo emerge research
05:50.39mikmac'mon ggilbert_ ! 8 more to go for 20
05:50.43sedatedChipmunkg'night, losers
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05:51.02sedatedChipmunkaw, poor dude =\
05:51.08sedatedChipmunk~console ggilbert_
05:51.08purlACTION gives ggilbert_ the consolation moose
05:51.20sedatedChipmunkD8<
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05:52.36sedatedChipmunkokay now it's getting pretty funny
05:52.47mikma14 ;)
05:52.57ckknight?
05:53.18sedatedChipmunkdo you have joins/parts enabled?
05:53.27ckknightmikma: what're you counting?
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05:53.41NightHawkTheSaneI think i'm glad i'm hiding joins/parts
05:53.56sedatedChipmunkno, this is pretty funny
05:54.05sedatedChipmunk01:53 -!- ggilbert_ [n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net] has joined #wowace
05:54.06sedatedChipmunk01:53 -!- ggilbert_ [n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net] has quit [Excess Flood
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05:54.11ckknightah, okay
05:54.14ckknightyea, I see it too
05:54.15sedatedChipmunkit's happened like 15 times already
05:54.24sedatedChipmunkevery 30s or so he comes back
05:54.37NightHawkTheSanelol
05:54.41NightHawkTheSanepoor bastard.
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05:55.24sedatedChipmunkthere he is!
05:55.24sedatedChipmunkthere he goes >8(
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05:56.00mikmano no, i'm only counting his "Excess Flood" quits :D
05:56.27mikmausually excess flood means the user is doing something nasty, not the other way around
05:56.57sedatedChipmunkor he has his flood protection set absurdly low
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05:57.34sedatedChipmunkseems pretty consistent 1-minute reconnects
05:57.48NightHawkTheSaneunless he's really intent on flooding a particular user/channel, its more likely that something's glitching
05:58.20sedatedChipmunkhe's trying to flood us with join/part messages, it seems
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05:58.58NightHawkTheSanei wouldnt be surprised if he's not around, and his client is just auto-reconnecting
05:59.05sedatedChipmunkwell duh
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06:01.06mikmaoh well, he hit 20. nice one
06:01.26mikmadidn't even notice because i was retyping my comment to bash him more
06:02.10Moltarain./ignore #channelname JOINS QUITS PARTS NICKS MODES
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06:02.15Moltarain^ ^
06:02.25mikmaMoltarain: /ignore ggilbert_ sameshit
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06:05.52*** kick/#wowace [ggilbert_!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by sedatedChipmunk (30m, for the sanity of the channel)
06:06.26sedatedChipmunkfeel free to extend that if it's still going on in a half-hour; I'm goin' to bed
06:09.16Shirikover and over again
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06:14.18CIA-2203sole * r42180 10Antagonist/ (Antagonist.toc Locals/zhCN.lua Locals/zhTW.lua): Antagonist: Added Simple Chinese and Traditional Chinese localizations. (thanks to flymouse).
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06:23.35piotrbHi Guys .. not exactly wowace specific .. but how would one go about searching for players .. but be able to return more than /who limit of 50 or so
06:23.46Finyou can't
06:23.50Shirikyou would have to make several requests
06:23.54Finyou have to narrow your /who parameters each time
06:24.12Fininstead of /who, /who a-m, or /who a-c, or /who aa-ab
06:24.16Finor lower levels
06:24.18Finor by zone
06:24.30piotrboh .. wow ... heh
06:24.44Fin... etc. just until you get less than 50 results, and you know you can go on to the next bit
06:24.45Shirikand given that you have a restriction on how frequently you can request that information
06:25.00Shirikany attempt to try to get any reliable value over 50 won't go very well
06:25.04piotrbI remember writing something like this for something completely un-wow related .. nasty
06:25.28piotrbok .. can I get /who to search for people with no guild?
06:25.57RogueShadowoh no...
06:25.59piotrbcan't seem to coerce it to work with g-'' .. and g="" returns everything ..
06:26.15piotrber thats g-"" =)
06:27.43RogueShadowAuto Guild inviter?
06:28.28RogueShadowI used CensusPlus before, you might wanna take a look at that.
06:29.54piotrbI wouldn't make it auto .. would be very civil .. would give list .. would allow whisper to candidate with a stock message .. allow blacklisting if candidate expresses disinterest ..
06:30.36piotrbbut it seems like too much of bother with how much of a pain finding these people will be .. heh
06:31.00RogueShadowYeah,  CensusPlus took like  5-10 mins I think
06:31.06RogueShadowif not more. I am not sure
06:31.08RogueShadowit was a while
06:31.24omega_but it was cool
06:31.26RogueShadowBut it did find out who didn't have a guild, but it still had to look for everybody to do it.
06:32.01piotrbyea .. well in our case .. we'd only look at 40+ .. so atleast that narrows things down a lot .. but still ..
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06:33.03Shirik|zZzIf I ever had someone randomly solicit me in whispers or random invites
06:33.14Shirik|zZzI not only wouldn't respond
06:33.16Shirik|zZzI'd /ignore them
06:33.28RogueShadowSome people already ignore everybody.
06:33.33Shirik|zZzjust random comment
06:33.56piotrbShirik|zZz: don't get me wrong .. I'd be not far behind you .. heh
06:34.08Shirik|zZzamyway. bacl tp s;ee[
06:34.12Shirik|zZzer
06:34.13RogueShadowI saw this rogue today, and inspected him.  I saw he had some good stuff but was missing some obvious good gear, easy to get stuff. So I whispered him right.  Blocked by something. So I used /say, I used  general. I used yell.  I looked up his guild and talked to his guildmate.
06:34.15Shirik|zZzanyway back to sleep
06:34.18RogueShadowHe never got the message
06:34.36Shirik|zZzlol
06:34.47piotrbour GM just tossed the idea around .. and I wanted to see how easy it'd be to make .. too much of a pain to bother
06:35.22piotrbhis idea was to base it off of polite whisper .. I hate working with other people's code =)
06:35.38RogueShadowThen your in the wrong channel.
06:35.40piotrbwell except for actual code made to be used by others =)
06:35.44RogueShadowlol
06:35.46RogueShadowok
06:35.54*** mode/#wowace [-b *!*=ggilbert@*.treke.net] by sedatedChipmunk
06:36.14RogueShadowI haven't made any addon's yet, I should, but no big idea's hit me yet. lol. I'm waiting.
06:36.18RogueShadowbig idea.
06:36.18piotrbace's a godsend .. now if it was easier to spawn stand alone "window" tablets =)
06:36.21RogueShadowya.......
06:36.43piotrbI keep just using fubar as my tablet helper
06:36.45kebinusanYou know it'd be nice to see a grid module for bosses to show things like who is globed, has inner demon, etc
06:38.33CodayusWell
06:38.51CodayusIf it's an aura, that's easily done.
06:39.08[Ammo]morning
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06:39.23CodayusBut there are a few boss abilities which don't have an aura, no?
06:39.38CIA-2203funkydude * r42181 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: tweak
06:40.36kebinusanCodayus: yeah, main thing is I'd like to have something I could easily distribute to our healers
06:40.56AntiarcHeh, ggilbert's a guildie of mine
06:41.02AntiarcAnd no, he's not around
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06:41.50AntiarcDo we have any warlocks around?
06:41.53CodayusThat's a thought.  I've added a lot of auras to grid for stuff I care about (mostly healing debuffs and important magic debuffs), but there's no good way to distribute settings like that.
06:42.20CodayusAntiarc: Not 70.  :-(  (Which I assume you meant...)
06:42.22[Ammo]I'm a lock antiarc
06:42.32[Ammo]been that since beta, not chanign :p
06:42.35kebinusanAs am I
06:42.36kebinusanwhat you need
06:42.44CIA-2203funkydude * r42182 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: bugfix
06:42.59AntiarcCodayus: Not-70 is better catually
06:43.01Antiarcactually
06:43.03AntiarcHere's what I need -
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06:43.21AntiarcIf you're running Threat, go out somewhere, /tlog start, have your VW attack, torment once, then put them on stay
06:43.27AntiarcMelee till you pull aggro
06:43.31kebinusanCodayus: yeah, I dont think most of our healers mess with it much, but itd be nice to have boss specific ones added to the list somehow
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06:43.48AntiarcThen /tlog report and copy/paste the report into a pastey for me with a) your pet's torment level, b) your pet's level, c) your pet's bonus spell damage
06:44.03CodayusSure
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06:46.30CodayusHmmm, my framerate is kinda bad...
06:46.42Codayus....oh yeah, I'm still running Warhammer DoW.
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06:47.29Antiarc[Ammo]: What do you know about lock pet scaling?
06:47.35AntiarcWhat affects VW's Torment, for example?
06:47.38Finer
06:47.39Finhmm
06:47.44Finthat process should've been killed
06:47.50[Ammo]not mucha ffects it
06:47.54[Ammo]it doesn't scale well
06:48.17[Ammo]but I am no void user
06:48.35AntiarcMy testing tonight pegged the VW's Torment at +750 threat, but Torment 7 is 623 base threat, pet got 83 bonus spell damage and had varying AP in the 600-1100 range.
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06:50.28kebinusanantiarc, is the difference maybe people who have the improved voidwalker talent?
06:51.10Antiarckebinusan: The lock I did my testing with was affliction/demo
06:51.12AntiarcErr
06:51.16AntiarcAffliction/destro
06:51.18Antiarc0 points in demo
06:51.54AntiarcKTM's Torment threat is way inaccurate too, FWIW
06:51.59AntiarcIt overreports by about 10%
06:52.34ckknightwoo, I have /dance'd with secure pie!
06:52.58kebinusanhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27270 wowhead lists base as 632 not 623 if thats not a typo
06:53.28AntiarcSomeone explain to me how Kenco allowing a string rather than an int as a user agent is open to abuse
06:53.44ckknightwell, if you loadstring it
06:53.48AntiarcBecause it seems a lot more secure than, say, loadstring()'ing remote crap willy-nilly.
06:54.05ckknightlol, I so want to abuse that once it goes in
06:54.53Starinniawhen did Kenco's arguments ever make logical sense though?
06:55.05kebinusanwhy is he adding a user agent thingo
06:55.22AntiarcHe's not. I asked him to so that I could ID threat users as threat users.
06:55.30ckknightkebinusan: he's not, instead, he's blocking versions that send Threat-1.0 messages
06:55.37ckknighteven if it's legit
06:55.42Starinniabut Antiarc, that might make people realize how bad KTM is...
06:56.08StarinniaKenco might lose his user base
06:56.18AntiarcFWIW, the only network message Threat doesn't handle from KTM is "clear", which is because KTM has to be cleared manually often to keep it semi-relevant in fights that Threat has no problem with.
06:56.48AntiarcSo invoking Threat clears from KTM is a good way to get bad data
06:57.02Codayushttp://pastey.net/70028
06:57.06CodayusVW Torment test
06:57.30AntiarcThank you!
06:58.21CodayusWould repeat tests help?
06:59.12AntiarcSure, definitely. /tlog reset to reset the logging util
06:59.26AntiarcOy, that makes no sense though. Torment 5 is 300 threat. I have no idea why it'd scale.
06:59.36AntiarcOoh, hm.
06:59.39CIA-2203funkydude * r42183 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: add phase 3 trigger
07:00.06AntiarcWait, why Torment 5?
07:00.12AntiarcA 63 pet should have access to Torment 6
07:00.32kebinusanhehe never bothered to train it?
07:00.35[Ammo]because having to teach your pet sucks
07:00.43[Ammo]due to the crap interface blizzard gives us :)
07:00.51[Ammo]they now at least show 'already learned'
07:01.00kebinusanI was ove ra year at 60 with only rank 2 devour magic on my felhound
07:01.04[Ammo]I think I bought all my imp books double
07:01.06ZealotOnAStickFunkeh`: the Vashj module needs bars for the entangle.
07:01.17Funkeh`entange is not timed
07:01.18CodayusI don't use my blueberry.  Sorry.  And pet training sucks...
07:02.26[Ammo]hrmf, having to dive back into SWS code sucks balls
07:02.26Codayus....weird, Torment appears to have fired...twice?  ....
07:02.38[Ammo]6 pages of sync code
07:02.41[Ammo]*puke*
07:02.44Codayushttp://pastey.net/70029
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07:03.47Antiarco.0
07:03.50Antiarcthat makes no sense.
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07:04.22CodayusI /tlog reset, /tlog start, and..um...  oO
07:04.37AntiarcOh, you don't need to /tlog start again. Just /reset does it
07:04.39AntiarcBut yeah.
07:04.40AntiarcHrm.
07:05.38CodayusAnd the high threat value makes it appear that it actually *did* fire twice?
07:06.42CIA-2203antiarc * r42184 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Removed the 0 floor from the Prism proc.
07:06.58AntiarcWell, no, it just recorded everything twice
07:07.08AntiarcI just halved your final numbers
07:07.42AntiarcBut that's still outside of the range I'd expect
07:07.43CodayusAh
07:07.44CodayusNow I understand
07:08.12CodayusI fail at logging.  :-)
07:08.30AntiarcHeh, it's fine
07:08.47CodayusThreat range:  972.73-1018.18   (doubled again...)
07:08.58CodayusBut now I understand how the /tlog command works.  :-)
07:09.33Codayushttp://pastey.net/70030
07:09.38Antiarc<PROTECTED>
07:09.49AntiarcIt's just something I hacked together to help deduce hunter pet scaling
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07:10.09CIA-22Recount - Adds reporting to the summary reports (click on one of the elements then click the report icon)
07:10.09CIA-22-Moved the health on the death log from the end to the beginning
07:10.23AntiarcHalving that, it's 424 threat minimum
07:10.26AntiarcWhich doesn't make any sense at all
07:10.32AntiarcIt looks like the pet didn't hit the mob, which is good.
07:10.38Antiarcjust cast torment
07:10.55AntiarcHrm. Wait.
07:11.09AntiarcBase + pet level + spell damage; 300 + 63 + 61 = 424
07:11.13AntiarcThat'd fit the lower bound.
07:11.23AntiarcSeems silly to just give 1 more threat per level though
07:12.02Codayushttp://pastey.net/70031
07:12.12AntiarcI was getting 623 + 70 = 693 + 83 = 776, which is above my upper tested bound though
07:12.23Funkeh`later folks
07:12.43kebinusanAntiarc ->  http://www.pastebin.ca/594984
07:12.48CodayusHmm, I could buff my pet and see if it changes.
07:12.57kebinusanThats mine, I wanded till I was clsoe then rank 1 curse of weakness till I stole aggro
07:13.14kebinusanif that helps
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07:13.48AntiarcI really gotta fix that doubling bug
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07:13.56AntiarcCodayus: Yeah, see if that changes things
07:14.00Antiarckebinusan: Were you in melee range?
07:14.04kebinusanno
07:14.06AntiarcAlso, I gotta fix that double message thing
07:14.07kebinusanat range
07:14.07AntiarcOkay
07:14.19kebinusanI can do it again in melee if you wish
07:14.57AntiarcNot a big deal
07:15.07AntiarcI think some of my basic assumptions are flawed
07:15.08AntiarcNow -
07:15.33AntiarcWhen I tested on my wife's 20ish warlock, threat levels tested out to exactly what the wowhead entry said, but she had 0 spell damage
07:15.55AntiarcMaybe the pet gets base + (2 * spell damage) threat on Torment?
07:16.21AntiarcThat'd put me in the 760 range, which sounds right, and it would explain your numbers, Codayus
07:16.31kebinusanI have 1105 dmg in the gear Im wearing atm
07:17.40AntiarcWhat's the pet's damage?
07:17.41Antiarcerr
07:17.42Antiarcspell damage
07:17.44kebinusansec
07:18.09kebinusanwell tlog isnt counting curse of weakness as damage Id guess so you can add a little bit to my numbers
07:18.25kebinusanpet is 915 ap, 165 spell dmg
07:20.09CIA-2203ammo * r42186 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: add heap control to Object event registering.
07:20.10CIA-2203candykiss * r42187 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua:
07:20.10CIA-22MobHealth3:
07:20.10CIA-22- Comment out the lines with "true" in zhCN translation to get rid of the error message
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07:21.04AntiarcCan you do a /tlog reset then melee till you pull aggro?
07:21.12kebinusansure
07:21.50Codayushttp://pastey.net/70032
07:22.08AntiarcWell damn, there goes that theory.
07:22.23AntiarcPerhaps it's spell damage bonus up to the pet's level or something? That'd work but would be stupid.
07:22.38CodayusLet me reduce the bonus
07:22.53AntiarcTry to get it under the pet's level / 2
07:23.05DhragaPerhaps fight nekkid
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07:24.00AntiarcI have to convince one of my guild locks to let me respec them demo
07:24.04AntiarcSo I can test felguard crap
07:24.17CodayusOops, if I take my weapon off, it's really hard for me to pull aggro.
07:24.21Antiarchahaha
07:24.33CodayusWell
07:24.43CodayusThis test is kind of a bust, but I've gained 50 points of unarmed skill
07:25.28DhragaAntiarc, I can't see why you should not be able to respec demo and then back again... (just don't tell them:P)
07:25.33CIA-2203antiarc * r42190 10Omen/ (Omen.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Removed TabletLib usage; just using the Blizzard tooltip.
07:26.04kebinusangood way to level unarmed
07:26.36Codayusbhttp://pastey.net/70033
07:26.45ckknightAntiarc: my brother's demo
07:27.03Antiarcckknight: Can you have him run these sorts of tests with one Anguish and one Cleave?
07:27.18AntiarcAnd then try it with a) modified pet spell damage, and b) modified pet AP levels
07:27.29AntiarcAlso, it's super lame that the AP bonus from Consume Shadows doesn't give +threat to Torment
07:27.34AntiarcThat'd make the VW a nice little tankbot.
07:28.04[Ammo]anyone familiar with cycircled coding?
07:28.08kebinusanAntiarc, http://www.pastebin.ca/594994
07:28.13Codayushttp://pastey.net/70034
07:28.16[Ammo]guildmate is having a problem with cycircled and bongos2
07:28.18[Ammo]http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1929/cycircledcdvf5.png
07:28.30[Ammo]As you can see, the cooldown animation is in front of the borders, which makes anything but square buttons look stupid as hell.
07:29.55kebinusanHad to do it twice, my voidwalker died the first time before I could get aggro
07:29.59Antiarckebinusan: Kickass numbers there.
07:30.18AntiarcVery very small threat spread, so we can assume you're getting about 800 threat on Torment
07:30.23kebinusanyeah figured you'd get more accurate numbers with unarmed
07:30.27AntiarcBut that's more than my 70 lock tests were getting
07:30.32AntiarcDo you have Imp VW?
07:31.00kebinusannope
07:31.17AntiarcCodayus: Awesome, that confirms that there is at least some scaling going on.
07:31.22AntiarcBecause you hit the 300 base there.
07:31.35AntiarcOk, so it's base with very little pet AP.
07:31.39AntiarcErr, spell damage.
07:31.54CIA-2203sayclub * r42191 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update
07:32.02AntiarcIt scales up about 125 for me, 175 for kebinusan. kebinusan has about twice my pet's spell damage.
07:32.37AntiarcYou got about 50 more threat than me for about +80 spell damage.
07:32.48AntiarcBut I couldn't scale my damage downwards.
07:32.49AntiarcHrm.
07:33.10CodayusHere's one with slightly higher +dmg again
07:33.12kebinusanlet me test again, Im not sure if fel armor wore off before I cast torment
07:33.12Codayushttp://pastey.net/70035
07:33.14kebinusangimme a min
07:33.57DhragaThe Felguards Intercept have a built in threat on the stun effect also, just thought I'd mention it
07:34.02AntiarcOk, so you gained 100-150 threat on Torment from 79 spell damage.
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07:34.09AntiarcGood to know, Dhraga
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07:35.04CIA-2203next96 * r42192 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Najentus.lua Teron.lua):
07:35.04CIA-22BigWigs:
07:35.04CIA-22- Update locale koKR
07:36.10AntiarcWTB 1x [Kalman] PST.
07:36.12WobinI need a name for my new ravager pet
07:36.20AntiarcSchmavager
07:36.41AntiarcOne of my guildmates named his Underbite
07:36.43AntiarcWhich is hilarious
07:37.17[Ammo]call it: Suzan
07:37.29Wobin=\
07:37.31Wobinnot catchy enough
07:37.32CodayusA hair more +dmg...  http://pastey.net/70036
07:37.37Antiarchttp://www.thottbot.com/?peta=Warlock%20Pet%20Scaling%2002 <-- wtf?
07:37.44Wobinalthough schmavenger has possiblity
07:38.15AntiarcOk, that would indicate a scaling floor + more than 2 threat/spell damage gained.
07:38.25AntiarcNo, wait ,read the wrong line.
07:38.34kebinusanhttp://www.pastebin.ca/594998 Here ya go
07:38.48kebinusanpretty much the same numbers as the last, my pet has 126 spell dmg
07:39.03AntiarcRight.
07:39.05kebinusancause I took my weapon off
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07:41.33AntiarcSpell Damage is obviously the scaling factor here.
07:42.10AntiarcThe question is a) what's the base, and b) what's the scaling factor?
07:42.20Antiarcrather, how do you determine the point at which threat starts scaling?
07:43.13kebinusanTomorrow I can repeat it at various amounts of spell damage
07:43.29AntiarcOk. I've got a spreadsheet where I'm collecting all the data :)
07:44.19CodayusHmm, I don't understand the doubling...
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07:46.01Codayushttp://pastey.net/70037
07:46.20CodayusSlihtly different +dmg numbers, and took off weapon for better accuracy.
07:46.46AntiarcI need to do a test with my VW with 0 spell damage at 70
07:46.55AntiarcAnd see if it does check out to 623 or if Blizzard booboo'd
07:47.19AntiarcGood granularity there.
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07:48.32AntiarcWell, my brain's pooped out so I'm gonna go to bed
07:48.39AntiarcBut thank you so much for the tests
07:48.48DhragaWobin, name it Kenny
07:48.52AntiarcHave a good night, all :)
07:49.01DhragaNn Antiarc
07:49.11CodayusNight Antiarc.
07:49.18WobinDhraga: I was thinking of naming her GuySmiley
07:49.49DhragaWobin, but with Kenny you get to say "#%¤& you killed Kenny on the raids ;)
07:49.52art3misWobin: ImWithStupid <-- best pet name evah
07:50.23WobinThat's very true
07:52.54Dhraga<PROTECTED>
07:54.08WobinI went with ImWithStupid
07:57.06Dhraganice
07:59.17CIA-2203candykiss * r42193 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (ChannelColorMemory.lua Editbox.lua):
07:59.17CIA-22Prat:
07:59.17CIA-22- ChannelColorMemory.lua: fix the regular expression in zhCN localization
07:59.17CIA-22- Editbox.lua: fix zhCN localization
08:01.38CIA-2203ammo * r42194 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: bugfix ctracompatlayer, we need to register the events as well.
08:01.51CIA-2203ammo * r42195 10oRA2/Participant/RaidWarn.lua: oRA2: register for raidwarn on self not oRA
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08:15.47Dhragahmmm, does prat have any built in function to recall the name of a focus target ? ex like %f in this addon http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6853-MacroTalk.html
08:17.05Finno, but remind me about it tonight and I'll add it
08:17.18Finback in 10 hours
08:17.52Dhraga=)
08:21.09Roartindon[Ammo]: ping
08:24.53[Ammo]pong
08:25.15Roartindon[Ammo]: Today, in raids, ora mt set # name was failing on command line and from dewdrop
08:25.36[Ammo]has been fixed
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08:31.09CIA-2203gagorian * r42197 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
08:31.09CIA-22DrDamage:
08:31.10CIA-22- Should've changed self -> DrDamage after making the function local on line 1450
08:31.16ckknightDhraga: that's in WoW
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08:31.37DhragaCkknight, you mean the %f ?
08:32.14ckknightyea
08:32.22DhragaThanks =)
08:36.26xthttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/?cpage=1
08:36.31xtOmg I love this drama...haha
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08:37.11xtCharge Forth ye Shiny Knights of WowAce-community, Victory will prevail!
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08:52.40CIA-2203kemayo * r42200 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua:
08:52.40CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
08:52.40CIA-22-Fu: Show Note notes inline instead of in gametooltip.
08:52.40CIA-22-Fu: Various click-actions for player names (whisper, invite, edit note); tablet hint summarizing these.
08:52.40CIA-22-Fu: Checkmarks on party members.
08:52.41CIA-22-Fu: Missing locals.
08:52.56KemayoYou improve one little thing, and people won't stop asking for more...
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08:55.53HjalteWhats a good addon to move standard blizzard features like ui error messages and the like?
08:56.25CIA-2203kemayo * r42202 10AuldLangSyne/Info/Info.lua:
08:56.25CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
08:56.25CIA-22-Info: Add an id to one scheduled event that was apparently overlapping.
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09:01.10NeoTronmoragrim down. whee
09:01.19Peoiigrats yo
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09:04.19CIA-2203kemayo * r42203 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Details/Details.lua:
09:04.19CIA-22FuBar_QuestsFu:
09:04.19CIA-22-Details: Close item tooltip when stopping hovering.
09:06.24Harghey ppl, do i just query the author of the addon i wish to report a bug in? or is there some fancy command to to it
09:06.53abbat_w~botmail?
09:07.00abbat_wpurl
09:07.14abbat_w~help
09:07.41abbat_w~help botmail
09:07.55abbat_wUsage: botmail {for <who>[:] <message>}|stats|check|read
09:09.13Hargill give it a try
09:09.49[Ammo]or just say what the problem is on channel
09:09.54[Ammo]and maybe more people can help you
09:10.34Hargwell its simply a feature i would like to see fixed im omen, when i Feign Death with my hunter, all threat on the meter is cleared and starts building up again.
09:10.50HargKTM had the same thing at one time, got fixed though
09:11.39Hargand, would be lovely to be able to disable "Threat per secound" on the meter as well
09:11.59[Ammo]you can disable that
09:12.06[Ammo]display -> skins -> skin settings -> columns ->
09:12.11Hargthx
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09:16.28abbat_woh...
09:16.47abbat_wi have an idea for antagonist...
09:17.31abbat_w~seen Sole
09:17.44purlsole <n=chatzill@203.109.161.194> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 1h 26m 23s ago, saying: 'good addon name = good addon  = truth'.
09:24.16CIA-2203kemayo * r42204 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua:
09:24.16CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
09:24.16CIA-22-Fu: Added OnClick to toggle the friends frame.
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09:33.11Krattzdoes anyone know if there is a way to allways keep Omen at its real size? not having it fold together when there is no one on the list
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10:00.47CIA-2203phyber * r42205 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/DigiCamFu.lua:
10:00.47CIA-22FuBar_DigiCamFu:
10:00.48CIA-22- Give it an icon.
10:00.48CIA-22- Randomly poke it.
10:00.48CIA-22- Might work Real Soon Now.
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10:19.36CIA-2203sayclub * r42206 10Omen/localization_deDE.lua: Omen: deDE Update
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10:20.35inphmorning
10:22.06pb_ee1phyber: Any documentaton for DigiCamFu available atm?
10:22.31phyberdocumentation = click the stuff in the tablet.
10:22.43pb_ee1I can't play wow atm
10:22.58phyberchanging screenshot format /might/ work at the moment, changing quality won't.
10:23.01pb_ee1I'm just wonderring what it does ;p
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10:23.12pb_ee1Aha
10:23.13phyberah, just change format/quality of screenshots.
10:23.19phyberand maybe click it to take one.
10:23.28pb_ee1Cool idea ^_^
10:23.39pb_ee1It's a pain in the ass to take a nice screenshot atm
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10:23.51pb_ee1Does it remove automatically the ui before taking the screenshot?
10:23.56pb_ee1(or is it an option?)
10:24.01phybernope, but that's a good idea.
10:24.12pb_ee1;)
10:24.16sag_ich_nichtso i was looking through the addon list in the updater and noticed DungeonCrawler & GPSLib
10:25.06Krattzdoes anyone know if there is a way to allways keep Omen at its real size? not having it fold together when there is no one on the list
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10:26.31[Ammo]Krattz: there is no way
10:26.47nevcairielwhere there is a will, there is a way
10:26.51pb_ee1Krattz: Make you raid never take a pause
10:27.00pb_ee1s/pause/break/
10:27.15sag_ich_nichtand Mode7
10:27.21sag_ich_nichtI'll have to try this out
10:27.38sag_ich_nichtand if it works i'll have to pest someone into giving it a sync function
10:27.39sag_ich_nicht:O
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10:28.22pb_ee1only works for crypts, too bad :(
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10:29.37sag_ich_nichtpb_ee1 yeah i know
10:29.46sag_ich_nichtthat's the OTHER thing
10:29.51pb_ee1lol
10:32.11Krattzdamn.. where can i make a fature request :P~~
10:33.43Pheredhelhm, when it comes to omen feature requests: how about a warning when you are about to lose aggro ?
10:33.52sag_ich_nichtalready there
10:33.54sag_ich_nichtaudio
10:33.57sag_ich_nichtnot visual though
10:34.01sag_ich_nichtoh wait
10:34.03sag_ich_nichtyou mean LOSE aggro
10:34.05Pheredheljust found one for gaining aggro
10:34.06Pheredhelyes
10:34.06sag_ich_nichtsorry missread that :O
10:34.18Pheredhelyesterday our tank asked for it
10:34.42phyberhow about... your other guys let the tank tank and they watch their meters?
10:35.00Pheredheland i think it would be helpfull, especialy for mobs that are not currently targeted
10:35.19sag_ich_nichtphyber how about you don't flame people for asking for a feature they would consider useful?
10:35.48Pheredhelphyber: how do i do this on several targets/ if i am the healer ?
10:35.57phybersag_ich_nicht: I'm not, it just seems like a backwards way to do things.
10:36.13Pheredheli just can't stop or reduce healing when I'm about to pull aggro
10:36.23phyberPheredhel: hmmm, true :)
10:36.34sag_ich_nichtfade
10:36.38sag_ich_nichtunless you aren't a priest
10:37.01phyberhttp://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/kr2008big.jpg
10:37.09sag_ich_nichtin which case bubble, and if you're a druid or shaman, well you're fucked then.
10:37.14sag_ich_nicht:O
10:37.15Pheredheli am a priest, but if two mobs come in, im dead most of the time anyways (heroics, raids,...)
10:37.42sag_ich_nichtwell you get a warning when you are about to gain aggro
10:37.44sag_ich_nichtwhich means
10:37.51sag_ich_nichtwhen your tank is about to lose it
10:37.59sag_ich_nichtso, you hit fade when you get the warning
10:38.00sag_ich_nicht:P
10:38.18sag_ich_nichtstill, about to lose aggro warning would be useful
10:38.20Pheredheloh, and btw: fade: 10 sek , 30sek cd
10:38.25sag_ich_nichtespecially in multi mob situations
10:38.30sag_ich_nichtyour tank must be really bad
10:38.32sag_ich_nichtD:
10:38.43sag_ich_nichtif you need it that often
10:38.53Pheredhelna, just warrior vs 5-10 mobs / adds /...
10:39.03sag_ich_nichtyeah
10:39.04sag_ich_nichtbad tank.
10:39.18Pheredhelna, normaly i have few problems with the current one
10:39.34Pheredhelbut talk about pug's
10:39.39sag_ich_nichtlol pugs
10:40.14Pheredhelat least, iI like the idea of the tank knowing when he is about to lose aggro
10:41.00Pheredhelit would make the life of the healers easier, and it is possible with threat (impossible with ktm ;) )
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10:41.11sag_ich_nichtyes
10:41.17sag_ich_nichtwell
10:41.21sag_ich_nichtit's possible with ktm as well
10:41.28sag_ich_nichtit would just require a fair bit of rewritting
10:41.29sag_ich_nicht:P
10:42.05Pheredhelyeah, about the fact, making ktm an non aggregate threat meter ...
10:46.51CIA-2203hshh * r42207 10CooldownCount/ (CooldownCount.lua Locale.enUS.lua Locale.zhCN.lua): CooldownCount: allow you ignore displaying CooldownCount on TargetFrame, or always display small font size on it
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10:50.26RaccoonidisAntiarc, are you there?
10:50.55syerenI believe he collapsed a while ago, although I may be wrong.
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10:51.33inphbleh where's omni? :)
10:51.35Gnarfozyay
10:51.44Gnarfoz~x de en zeugnis
10:51.53Gnarfozthat doesn't sound right
10:52.04RaccoonidisBeen using the Omen addon, its really nice. But I miss the "Tank regain" option from KTM
10:52.05Gnarfoz~babelfish de en zeugnis
10:52.30Gnarfozreport card. ;]
10:53.25Pheredheldepends on how you want to use zeugnis
10:53.36Pheredhel~x de en Zeugnis
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10:55.21CIA-2203hshh * r42209 10QuestAnnouncer/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhCN.lua): QuestAnnouncer: fix zhCN localization
10:56.40GnarfozPheredhel: in the "schulzeugnis" sense ;-)
10:57.03Pheredhelok
10:57.20Gnarfozalthough it's not a normal school anymore, trade / vocational school
10:57.27Gnarfozbut it's the same for them of course
10:57.56Pheredheli'd use school report or simply report
11:02.43Gnarfozblergh
11:02.57GnarfozI hate it. should have documented how I did my php4/php5 combo install
11:03.01Gnarfozcan't remember how to access php4
11:03.10CIA-2203pettigrow * r42210 10Omen/localization_frFR.lua: Omen: frFR Update
11:04.48CIA-2203nemes * r42211 10NShakedown/ (7 files in 2 dirs): NShakedown: AddonBase now checks for the addon and only enables if it is loaded or LOD. AddonBase now loads LOD addons on first call.
11:06.21[Ammo]silly metro user
11:07.04CIA-2203sayclub * r42212 10CooldownCount/Locale.koKR.lua:
11:07.04CIA-22CooldownCount:
11:07.04CIA-22- koKR Update
11:09.10CIA-2203sayclub * r42213 10Omen/localization_zhTW.lua: Omen: zhTW Update
11:09.33nevcairielusing metro is weird anyway
11:09.37StylpeOoh, while I'm online, where's the best place to submit bugs about WAU?
11:09.38nevcairielsince AceAddon requires AceEvent
11:11.40MikkStylpe: is it crashing?
11:11.50MikkStylpe: or leaving random addons out of the list?
11:11.55Mikkthose are known :S
11:12.11Mikkproblem is sylvanaar is on a vacation trip right now
11:12.12Mikkbad timing
11:12.19StylpeNo, it's just not showing all revisions in the log file, and I like to see what's changed =P
11:12.44Mikkah
11:13.13StylpeIt only shows the very latest revision, and earlier ones if the revision numvers are sequential, e.g. r15 and r16
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11:14.02Gnarfozhttp://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/06/the-new-boeing-.html < check the emphasized part o_O
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11:16.20CIA-22Assessment
11:16.20CIA-22- Added maximumHealth tag. This allows me to check everyone's maximum health quickly before relevant fights
11:16.20CIA-22- Fixed colorTypeList for group health/mana
11:16.20CIA-22- Group health/mana use CurrentGroupMembers instead of GroupMembers
11:16.20CIA-22- Minor code formatting changes to BarInterface
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11:18.29CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
11:18.29CIA-22-Fu: Tweak note trimming.
11:18.29CIA-22-Backup: Fix import error.
11:19.51nekohwhats the command for getting the name of the frame under the mousecursor?
11:20.01nekohi keep forgetting this :/
11:21.27Gnarfozanyone know an easy way how to find out which uid a php-cgi script is executed as?
11:22.04WobinGetMouseFocus()?
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11:27.43[Ammo]five minutes aloooononnneee!
11:28.39yacoobneveeeeeer! *jumps on Ammo*
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11:29.50[Ammo]just found an old pantera album I lost again :p
11:29.58PheredhelGnarfoz: quick and dirty: 'print `/usr/bin/whoami`'
11:30.03Pheredhelprints the username
11:30.08abbat_w=)
11:30.29abbat_wAhaha ;)
11:30.46GnarfozPheredhel: already found out, script created a dir, found out that way :)
11:30.55abbat_wdon't sure about other system, but php have wrapper to system id call
11:31.41Pheredhelok, most of the time i just check the approptiate vhost.conf
11:32.53GnarfozI just enable php4/cgi for certain cases, not even sure if I can make it run with a specific uid
11:33.16Gnarfoz(...suexec? not sure, all the regular stuff is mod_php5 anyway)
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11:34.16abbat_wGnarfoz, if you don't do any special things, you should have you httpd uid
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11:34.26abbat_wFor child processes
11:34.31Gnarfozyup
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11:45.17CIA-2203nemes * r42217 10NShakedown/ (AddonBase.lua Addons/Template.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: Use IsAddOnLoadOnDemand instead of GetAddOnInfo. Ensure that Addons are listed in optional dependencies in TOC.
11:50.03Kuja^[2007/06/29 13:44:41-53-x1]: AddonLoader-1.0\Conditions.lua:210: attempt to index local 'metadata' (a nil value)
11:55.14CIA-2203rabbit * r42218 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Use SML for sounds if available.
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12:07.41Gnarfozomg
12:07.46GnarfozWar Games is so cheesy xD
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12:13.37CIA-2203rabbit * r42219 10oRA2/ (21 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: Don't translate module names any more, since module objects are not directly accessible from the global scope.
12:18.14sag_ich_nichti now definitifly have figure out what is wrong with women
12:18.39sag_ich_nichttheir brain only supports UDP, but not TCP D:
12:20.39CIA-2203ammo * r42220 10LittleWigs/littlewigs-lod.bat: LittleWigs: delete modules.xml from lod.bat after unpack
12:24.04CIA-2203roartindon * r42221 10Aloft/CoreModules/ (ClassificationData.lua CreatureTypeData.lua):
12:24.04CIA-22Aloft
12:24.04CIA-22- CreatureType and ClassificationData default to not saving
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12:26.53CIA-2203mikk * r42222 10IgnoreMore/IgnoreMore.lua:
12:26.53CIA-22IgnoreMore:
12:26.53CIA-22- Prevent "" from being ignored through whichever weird means they'd have made it into the system. Apparently, this has happend, and then we start ignoring system messages and whatnot.
12:26.53CIA-22- Prevent "Unknown" (actually the standard UNKNOWN localized globalstring) from
12:26.54CIA-22being imported from the system ignore list. This happens for a few moments after
12:26.54CIA-22startup when you someone you've been ignoring has deleted his char.
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12:38.43sag_ich_nichtmhm
12:39.16trhsag_ich_nicht: kneel! you got your name coloring! ;)
12:39.22sag_ich_nichtwut!
12:40.12CIA-2203pastamancer * r42223 10Grid/GridStatusHealth.lua:
12:40.12CIA-22Grid:
12:40.12CIA-22StatusHealth - improved death detection.
12:40.58sag_ich_nichttrh details
12:41.05pb_ee1|tmppastamancer: Sometimes, the 'FD' state of a Hunter is erroneous (he's actually dead), will this update fix the bug?
12:41.17trhsag_ich_nicht: details? it colors the [Name] part... that's it ;)
12:41.21pastamancerquite possible
12:41.34pb_ee1|tmppastamancer: Good news. :-)
12:41.55abbat_wyou mean grid show hunter in fd but actually he dead?
12:42.04sag_ich_nichttrh: you mean for hate/friend list?
12:42.09trhsag_ich_nicht: yep
12:42.12sag_ich_nichtah
12:42.12sag_ich_nichtnice
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12:47.25CIA-2203fenlis * r42224 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua:
12:47.25CIA-22LittleWigs:
12:47.25CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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13:10.48CIA-2203rabbit * r42226 10oRA2/ (21 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: Don't translate console options, so few people use them anyway.
13:12.56Monolitis there any way to change barX to barY with macro command (using bartender3)?
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13:14.50WixtiMonolit: im no expert, but I know you can change bars with a modifier key in bartender 3
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13:19.09sag_ich_nichtmhm
13:19.24sag_ich_nichti used the option to overwrite WoWs damage text with the one from SCT
13:19.33sag_ich_nichtbut it isn't being used
13:19.33sag_ich_nichtD:
13:19.38sag_ich_nichtand the default one is well
13:19.43sag_ich_nichtugly, because it's not antialiased
13:20.13Wixtisag_ich_nicht: did you try to de-actived the wow default sct in the proper interface panel?
13:20.28sag_ich_nichtWixti no you're missunderstanding
13:20.37sag_ich_nichtthe option is supposed to overwrite the font of that one
13:20.43sag_ich_nichtthe default sct is off
13:20.50sag_ich_nichtbut the blizz dmg and healing text is on
13:21.05sag_ich_nichtsince i cba to use the nameplates
13:21.24sag_ich_nichtespecially since it sometimes shows over the wrong target with SCT
13:21.24CIA-2203nemes * r42227 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Antagonist.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add Antagonist support
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13:22.03syerenvhaarr, you look like you've enjoyed taking apart oRA2 recently :p
13:23.54Icerothblizz default dmg font looks like crap on my screen, it's like size 12 font scaled 3 times too big
13:25.02Gnarfozyeah, it's been like that since the beginning.
13:25.14Fisker-i has a var
13:25.19sag_ich_nichtIceroth thus i wanted to overwrite it with the SCT one
13:25.24sag_ich_nichtbut the option doesn't work
13:25.35Gnarfozit is 0, Fisker-?
13:25.46Gnarfoziz, even
13:25.54[Ammo]VAR Very Agressive Rabies
13:26.24sag_ich_nichtmaybe if i delete the cache
13:26.25sag_ich_nicht>.>
13:28.05Pheredheli have some questions regarding svn
13:28.13sag_ich_nichtnope, still not
13:28.27trh~metaquestion
13:29.51Pheredhelfirst: can i do something to keep embedded librarys uptodate?
13:30.09Gngskgoogle 'svn externals'
13:30.31vhaarrsyeren: hehe yeah
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13:32.19sag_ich_nichtmhm
13:32.24sag_ich_nicht~metaquestion
13:32.25sag_ich_nichtdoes nothing
13:32.33sag_ich_nicht~~
13:32.34purlEvery moment in which I'm called upon is torture.
13:32.38sag_ich_nicht~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
13:32.41Gngsk~metalocalypse
13:32.43sag_ich_nichtha!
13:33.24trhPheredhel: svn update? if the embedded libraries are declared as external
13:34.37Pheredhelna, the problem is that i want to understand how I can do it for my addons ;), as I want svn access here (and my standard information source 'svn help' didn't tell anything usefull)
13:35.11omega_Pheredhel: svn propedit svn:external?
13:35.33Pheredheljust found a good help about it
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13:36.56Pheredheland as I obviously didn't got good keywords to search for, google didn't gave me good infos about ;)
13:39.55trhPheredhel: checkout any addon that uses externals and look at the properts of that addon (tortoisesvn makes it very easy)
13:40.51Pheredheltortoisesvn isn't usable for me
13:41.04CIA-2203nemes * r42228 10NShakedown/StandardUI.lua: NShakedown: add the durability frame and quest watch frame, both standard UI elements
13:41.11Pheredheland anyway, I'd like to keep my comandline svn client
13:41.35Pheredheltortoisesvn not, because its windows only
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13:42.35Josh_BorkePheredhel: what platform are you on?
13:42.46PheredhelOS X 10.4
13:42.53PheredhelMactel
13:43.14Wixticheers, mactel here as well ;)
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13:45.21evlIs there some bug with Daily Quests that allows you to do two a day?
13:45.50Arrowmasteryes they reset sometimes
13:46.12evlSometimes I've found that you could do one quest before 00:00, deliver it 01:something and do it agian?
13:46.32trhisn't that the normal daily quest reset?
13:46.46ilifinthe reset is at 04:00
13:46.57trhi think it's earlier here
13:47.01ilifinif you stay on at till 04:00 and have done daily quests you get the reset message
13:47.19ilifinI'm on european servers too, trh
13:47.38trhilifin: i think it's around 2am... =)
13:47.48ilifin04:00 :p
13:47.49trhilifin: as i went to sleep at 3 and there was definitly a reset before
13:47.55ilifinmight be random
13:48.07ilifinI've been on that late twice and gotten reset messages 0400 both times
13:48.09trhilifin: or depending on server restart
13:48.17evlWell I'm trying to figure out a work around so I can do two daily quests per day
13:48.21evlof the same quest :P
13:48.50Pheredhelevl: not really a good idea
13:48.59evlbut there is something there with the timer innit
13:49.18Pheredhelthey could consider it bugusing if you do it too often
13:50.16CIA-2203gagorian * r42229 10DrDamage/Data/Shaman.lua:
13:50.16CIA-22DrDamage:
13:50.16CIA-22- Remove purification effect from ES only when targeting friendly targets other than player
13:50.38ilifino_o
13:51.00GagorianX_X
13:51.53ilifinwhy :p
13:52.29yacoob._.
13:52.37GagorianBecause, at least it was bugged
13:53.01GagorianIf they've fixed it I'd like to know :P
13:53.08yacoob~~~~~~~<o/~~~~~~~~~~~ man overboard!
13:53.10CIA-2203nemes * r42230 10NShakedown/ (3 files in 2 dirs): NShakedown: Add Ash DoTimer and Cooldowns support
13:53.26ilifinpurification bugged on ES?
13:53.47GagorianWell, either by design or bug
13:54.00GagorianBut fact was that ES healed 10% less on other targets than player
13:55.34GagorianMost shamans didn't notice it cause you can't see ES heals
13:56.04GagorianOr well, aren't counted as the shammy's healing
13:56.34ilifinweird
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13:56.49GagorianIndeed
13:57.21GagorianThere's several calculations that don't make sense at all. Seems like it's sometimes totally random
13:58.01GagorianLike 90% of the stuff works exactly alike.. and then a few stuff that should work the same way just doesn't
13:58.03vrakanyone here that can fix a bug in ClassTimer's \locales\zhCN.lua ?
13:58.06deltronES heals are counted as heals on whoever has the shield
13:58.08deltrontrue story
13:58.27ilifinand still
13:58.32ilifinthe more +heal the shammy has
13:58.36ilifinthe more the ES will heal others
13:58.48deltronyep
13:58.48ilifinbut guess it doesn't count purification?
13:58.56ilifinwhich tbh is weird
13:58.57deltronthat's why I trinket before I drop ES
13:59.10ilifinI got a gearset with +heal gems etc for that
13:59.12ilifinuse it for arena
13:59.18GagorianTalents weren't (aren't) at least passed over correctly to the targets ES.
13:59.23Gagorian+Heal is
13:59.31ilifinenter with 2x trinkets I can use at the same time and 1900 +heal, trinket, WoA, ES on myself, change to pvp
13:59.34ilifin<3
13:59.43sbushammy is uber-healer :/
13:59.49GagorianI'd appreciate if some shaman tries it though
13:59.56deltronI need to start building an arena set
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14:00.00GagorianJust ask someone to tell how much it heals, then compare what it heals you
14:00.08deltronGagorian: I can do that
14:00.17deltron<-- shammy
14:00.21GagorianThey might've fixed it in the last patch
14:00.26GagorianAlright, let me know
14:00.34deltronumm
14:00.35Pheredhelabout fubar pluginnames: when should i name the plugin FuBar_...  if it makes only sense when using FuBar or if it's best using it with fubar (the plugin can also write to center of screen/console)
14:00.38deltronwhen I'm off work that is :P
14:00.45GagorianYeah, I'm in no rush :P
14:00.52deltronwhat's it for?
14:01.06Pheredhelthe plugin ?
14:01.28Pheredhelit shows who breaks crowdcontol spells
14:01.31deltronsorry, that was directed to Gagorian
14:01.34sbudeltron: mh - shammy is ~best pve healer :/
14:01.47deltronsbu: true story ;)
14:01.49Pheredhelok
14:02.09deltronPheredhel: that would get annoying if it's the tank always doing it
14:02.11sbudeltron: not fair :o
14:02.11Gagoriandeltron: Finetuning DrDamage. It currently reduces purification based on target criteria.
14:02.17GagorianBut if it's fixed I'll just remove it
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14:02.24deltronok
14:02.51GagorianSince it's something that seems like a bug, and blizzard is known for ninja/stealth changes
14:02.53Sarozhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ ... is that kenco a retard or what?
14:03.00GagorianSaroz: Oh yes.
14:03.08deltroni wouldn't doubt it if blizz silently nerfed it
14:03.13Pheredheldeltron: thats why it is possible to disable the different locations for the warnings, and why I will add the posiblity to exclude certain group/raidmembers in the future
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14:03.29deltronPheredhel: sweet :)
14:04.03sbuhaha mikma, he says you are dumb!
14:04.06sbu:/
14:04.07trhSaroz: nothing new yet... =)
14:04.37GagorianSaroz: I don't get it how Kenco can claim accepting an arbitrary version string is open to abuse. If I wanted to abuse KTM I could just nil out his global variables
14:04.44CIA-2203nemes * r42231 10NShakedown/Addons/ (Ash_Cooldowns.lua Ash_DoTimer.lua): NShakedown: set correct display names for each of the DoTimer addons
14:04.49Pheredhelright now I think the addon is at a point where I think it is usable and it can be released in a first version / beta
14:04.50GagorianOr. Make functions that break his calculation.. or whatever
14:05.04GagorianSpam fake threat messages all over the place
14:05.05Sarozhe's an idiot, leave him with KTM.. it's dead in 2 months anyway
14:05.21trhi think i'm gonna write a nice /script to see how to abuse klhtm this weekend :)
14:05.23trhand spread it :)
14:05.37Gagorianwell /script thismod=nil
14:05.39GagorianBROKEN
14:05.42trhna
14:05.47trhi meant with SendAddonMessage
14:05.59trhsending illegal data causing *other* ktm to do bad things =)
14:06.00deltronI do love DrDamage though :)
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14:06.27Gagorian:>
14:06.56deltronlazy man's theorycrafting :)
14:07.39Stephmwserious men just aggregate lazy men's theorycraft
14:07.46deltronlol
14:07.59deltronI did find a nice shaman theorycrafting excel spreadsheet
14:08.10deltronI need to update it with more loot
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14:17.05CIA-2203mikk * r42233 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: Editbox validate functions should NOT get passed the key name as the first argument. Damnit. (Yeah it would have made sense for them to do so but.. that's not the spec)
14:19.01Ixanwtb tooltip exchange feature: searching for a enchant name gives a link to the spell w/mats
14:19.01Monolitis there any way to change barX to barY with macro command (using bartender3)? or some other way which will allow me to bind 1 key for swapping 2 barrs at the same time
14:19.12deltronIxan: yeah that's something I've thought would be nice
14:19.22deltronI don't think you can search for any formula though
14:22.41Ixansounds good deltron
14:26.41CIA-2203mikk 07Mikk * r42234 10Ace2/: Ace2 Mikk branch: Zap and rebranch
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14:28.23CIA-2203mikk 07Mikk * r42235 10Ace2/: Ace2: New Mikk branch for more work..
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14:45.50inphanyone using class timers notice the bars appearing and disappearing?
14:52.20Wobinhehe, just did the ogre quests
14:52.36kaidendid you have fun? :)
14:52.50Wobinyep!
14:52.58WobinThe hand in was great
14:53.02Wobinthere were three of us
14:53.09Wobinso there was ogres as far as the eye could see
14:53.20Wobinand the way they all turn and kneel was kinda cool =)
14:53.42nevcairielwhat ogre quests?
14:53.50nevcairielah i remember
14:53.52nevcairielthat one.
14:56.22CIA-2203ammo * r42236 10oRA2/ (8 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: replace the scrollable windows with sorting by a single reused implementation in the core. needs some coloring fluff still.
14:57.17deltronhttp://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Kents333/bigcrit2.jpg
14:57.18deltronlol
14:58.24Mikknice one
14:59.22vhaarrnice name on the file
14:59.24vhaarr"bigcrit"
14:59.29vhaarrwhen it's just a regular hit
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15:00.04Wobinwow
15:00.13Fisker-it's not much
15:00.20WobinKTM thread is a shining example of a rarity
15:00.22Fisker-i've seen warriors hit for more
15:00.33Fisker-kenco is funneh
15:00.42WobinIn which the majority is calm and collected and there's only one frothing madman
15:01.07Moltaraini gues he ment the "Gordawg hits you for 61329"
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15:01.48Nemes_evening folks... can anyone help me out with wowwiki?
15:02.28Fisker-Moltarain and i meant "i've seen warriors hit for more"
15:02.29Nemes_I've put a new addon in the SVN and put up a forum thread, but I don't know how to start a wiki page for it
15:02.50[Ammo]your addon makes use of metrognome
15:02.51[Ammo]fix that
15:02.54[Ammo]you have aceevent
15:03.18Nemes_lol OK... didn't realise that metrognome was not looked upon favourably
15:03.29[Ammo]it's not needed when you use acevevent already
15:03.40[Ammo]other than that make an account on wiki
15:03.41[Ammo]log in with it
15:03.52vhaarrit's not that anyone has a problem with it
15:03.53[Ammo]and visit: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/MyAddonOfDEWM
15:03.57[Ammo]follow instructions
15:04.00vhaarrit's just that it's not useful when AceEvent can do it all
15:04.27[Ammo]or in your case: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/NShakeDown
15:04.27Nemes_ok... will swap over; it's not a big part of it
15:04.46[Ammo]hey Mikk, check out the new oRA2 scrollframes :)
15:04.57[Ammo]code size reduction++
15:05.28Wobinyou mean reduction--
15:05.48[Ammo]no extra reduction
15:05.52Nemes_cheers ammo... how do I get the addon box up and have it listed in the addons index etc? is that automagic?
15:05.53[Ammo]not less reduction
15:06.00[Ammo]should be automagic
15:06.04Nemes_nice
15:06.06[Ammo]not sure
15:06.06Nemes_thanks
15:06.11[Ammo]probably depends on some meta tags
15:06.27Nemes_I'll have a look at some other pages and do a copy/paste job
15:06.42[Ammo]meta tags in your addnos tock
15:06.44[Ammo]toc
15:06.44[Ammo]even
15:06.53Nemes_easymode
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15:14.54KazieAnyone here?
15:14.58deltronno
15:15.29KazieAnyone who knows where or how to contact the auther of SacredBuff? Eternally777 he's called
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15:16.12deltrondon't know his irc name
15:16.15deltronif he ever comes in here
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15:16.20CIA-2203mikk 07Mikk * r42237 10Ace2/: Ace2 Mikk branch: Delete. Done.
15:16.34sbuMikk: huh? :)
15:16.42Mikknever you mind =)
15:17.14Mikk(core lib devel is best done in branches :P)
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15:17.30sbuwell but in ~1h? :p
15:17.58Mikki _thought_ i needed to change something. turns out i didn't.
15:18.08vhaarrKazie: he used to hang around here, but haven't seen him in a while
15:18.12[Ammo]what, you didn't even clean up the excessive errorchecking? :)
15:18.17vhaarr~seen eternally777
15:18.45purleternally777 <n=eternall@pool-72-70-169-203.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 58d 17h 56m 35s ago, saying: 'It's sad when I get TV channels on my cell phone that I don't get with my home cable package...'.
15:18.45Mikk[Ammo]: I'm not doing major work on that stuff without a test framework
15:18.55MikkIf you want to start pulling the threads and see what unravels... be my guest :P
15:18.57CIA-2203morgalm * r42238 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP-deDE.lua MorgDKP-enUS.lua):
15:18.57CIA-22MorgDKP:
15:18.57CIA-22- fix for channelers/warders counting as bosskills in Magtheridons lair
15:19.18MikkAnd for now, I have better things to do tbh.. bit of a "don't fix it if it ain't broken" for me
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15:19.51Mikk(better things to do than writing the test framework, that is)
15:20.14Mikklike.. oh.. checking out what you did to oRA2's frames :>
15:21.15deltronyikes awk is crazy
15:21.23Mikkawk rocks
15:21.42deltronlearning to use it for the first time -_-
15:21.46Antiarc|WorkMorning.
15:21.49deltronhowdy
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15:22.25Mikkthe only real "whoa? wtf is going on?" is with piping, redirection and getline, where it sort of emulates a shell .. except not
15:22.40Mikkother than that it's pretty straightforward imo
15:23.02Mikktho the array implementation leaves things to be desired. it doesn't handle multidimension very well :S
15:23.45Mikkbut it's VERY lightweight compared to e.g. perl, so that's good in some situations
15:25.31Antiarc|Workawk is one of those things I tried to learn but then decided that I didn't need it bad enough to learn it.
15:26.02MikkHUAAAAA i checked out oRA2 to my AddOns root
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15:27.18Kazievharr: Okay.
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15:28.36deltronawk is perfect for exactly what I need it for, grabbing columns of my data
15:29.06Mikk[Ammo]: Zomg, where'd all the code go? o.O
15:30.19Antiarc|WorkHey, anyone on the oRA team here?
15:30.59Antiarc|Work"Irrelevant funniness - the WAU "update everything" that fixed Omen apparently broke my main tank windows. I'm not supposing the two are linked in any fashion besides coincidence, but it was fun to suppose the Universe was saying I could have a threat list or a main tank list, but not both."
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15:31.13Antiarc|Workhttp://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=405453&postcount=1024 and a few posts afterwards
15:31.35MikkWonder if that guy exited wow
15:31.35Antiarc|Work"Yes. I thought I wasn't getting the tank windows, and used my favorite reset method, /ora mt set 1 daksuo and bizarrely got "daksuo isn't a player" message (how would WoW know?), so I thought it was a problem from oRA. Sorry for the OT, just thought I'd answer in thread."
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15:32.45trhlol.. kenco is totally ignoring every threat/ktm post =)
15:32.49durcynrabbit was tweaking maintank/playertarget last night
15:32.58durcynlast i checked it was halfway fixed
15:33.12CIA-2203rabbit * r42239 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Hide the window when disabling.
15:33.30deltron^^^
15:34.28ChompersAntiarc i've noticed that the Omen threat bars sometimes jump around a bit, is this normal?
15:34.44Chompersit's not really a big issue, but i've always had it
15:34.50Antiarc|WorkDefine "jump around"?
15:34.54Antiarc|WorkAlso, "I'm looking for an addon that would leave a line at my feet where i walk, so i can back trace and find my way out of confusing places, such as LBRS. Does a mod like this exist?"
15:35.16Chomperssometimes the bars just vanish then reappear at their original values
15:35.33Chompersas if their threat was set to 0, then back up to what they were before
15:37.10durcynAntiarc|Work: i've noticed it too.  using growup mode, sometimes bars render grow-down for a moment, then re-orient themselves.  seems to be mostly on target change or threat npc module events that cause resets
15:37.32sag_ich_nicht[17:34] <Antiarc|Work> Also, "I'm looking for an addon that would leave a line at my feet where i walk, so i can back trace and find my way out of confusing places, such as LBRS. Does a mod like this exist?" <--not possible to manipulate render graphics with an addon
15:37.45Antiarc|Worksag_ich_nicht: Yeah, I know, quoting someone else that I found amusing :)
15:37.50sag_ich_nichtWELL
15:37.51sag_ich_nichtexcept
15:37.54Antiarc|WorkOh, right, that. I've noticed it, haven't pinned it down yet.
15:37.58Antiarc|Work(the bar thing)
15:38.13Chompersand sometimes the threat bars don't reach all the way across the omen window for a few seconds, then jump all the way across
15:38.16sag_ich_nichti suppose you could create a complex overlay frame rendered with Mode7 that is mostly transparent and use GPSlib to get your position
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15:38.40pastamancerwhat is this 'mode7'?
15:38.59durcynvhaarr: re: maintanks.  Leader/MainTank (i.e. /ora mt set 1 playername) sends, but the new Participant code doesn't seem to receive it correctly.  older revs (tested with 42067) do receive and display mt frames correctly.
15:39.05Antiarc|Workhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_7
15:39.07CIA-2203nemes * r42240 10NShakedown/ (14 files in 3 dirs): NShakedown: move from Metrognome to AceEvent for all timed events
15:39.09sag_ich_nichthttp://files.wowace.com/Mode7/
15:39.33vhaarrdurcyn: hrm
15:40.03pastamancerah
15:40.20deltronmode 7 like the snes thing?
15:40.29sag_ich_nichtyes.
15:42.10Mikkwhoa, a vector rotater
15:42.17Mikkthis is way too cool
15:42.22Josh_Borkeeh?
15:42.29Josh_Borkeyou mean cryect's thing?
15:42.38durcynhe's got a spiffy demo in DungeonCrawler
15:42.43Mikkmeans it wouldn't be too much work to implement paintball CTF tournaments in wow :>
15:42.47durcynonly works in sethekk halls, as i recall
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15:43.28Mikkhave that library paint flag locations
15:43.28Josh_Borkeyes, it only works in sethekk, but can work anywhere
15:43.38Mikkon the real ground
15:43.42durcynJosh_Borke: yes, but that's the only map added as of yet
15:43.48Mikkobviously takes semi-flat ground for it to not go silly but.. hey =)
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15:44.14subsonic-FRIDAY!
15:45.41Mikki actually had some stuff working in omnibus... wonder where i put that
15:45.54Mikkforce a zoom-in on a particular zoom level so you knew where you were pointing
15:46.10Mikkstick up a paintball gun where you'd expect it to be in FPS games :>
15:46.15Mikk(ok, it was a green square)
15:46.34Mikkthen i realized i'd forgotten everything i ever knew about 3d vector math
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15:47.14Josh_Borkelol
15:47.49sag_ich_nicht[17:42] <durcyn> only works in sethekk halls, as i recall <--crypta, actually
15:48.42Matrix110vhaarr i got a small question, ive tried to modify NRT so it adds a (Standby) behind people that whispered heres my modification http://ace.pastey.net/70056 but the .."(Standby)" somehow makes them getting added twice, ive tried everything with my noobish coding skills i could try to work around it but it wouldnt want to work, could you help me maybe?
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15:49.03Mikkwould be pretty easy to calculate trajectories assuming a flat ground though
15:49.08Mikkand even paint stuff on-screen
15:50.03sag_ich_nichtMikk: now look at GPSlib
15:50.13sag_ich_nichtthen you will be an even more happy camper :P
15:50.21sag_ich_nicht(unless you already saw it)
15:50.26Mikkyer i know
15:50.43pastamancerthe minimap saves the last ping position?
15:50.48Mikkyeah
15:50.57pastamancerand returns it relative to your current positon?
15:51.00vhaarrMatrix110: that's because the whisper handler gets called twice
15:51.05Mikkyeah
15:51.09pastamancertricky
15:51.20Matrix110but how oo if i remove it its not called twice anymore Oo
15:51.23DustwhisperMikk he that's how I created a mortar and rifle cam for Enemy Territory :P
15:51.24Mikkwouldn't surprise me the least if it got nerfed at some point
15:51.29vhaarrMatrix110: it should be
15:51.44Matrix110totally weird Oo
15:52.21sag_ich_nicht[17:51] <+Mikk> wouldn't surprise me the least if it got nerfed at some point <--just keep quite. :P what the blue mans don't know, the blue mans don't care about(and I personally find it unreasonable by them to not provide instance coords anyway :P)
15:53.21sag_ich_nicht(yeah i know it's not going to work that way :P)
15:53.29Mikkwell.. they could also rip out coords entirely
15:53.40Mikkarguably isn't game-breaking in any way
15:54.08Matrix110ripping out coords would make bots even more stupid
15:54.32sag_ich_nicht[17:53] <+Mikk> well.. they could also rip out coords entirely <--that'd be even more unreasonable imho
15:54.34sag_ich_nichtMatrix110 not really
15:54.37Mikkwell, the client still needs to know coords intnernally
15:54.44sag_ich_nichtbot just captures them from the TCP/IP package
15:54.47Mikkand most bots just sit on the datastream afaik
15:54.53sag_ich_nichtcorrect
15:54.55Matrix110oh
15:54.57Matrix110kk
15:55.02sag_ich_nichtyou can't write a bot inside of WoW since uh
15:55.05sag_ich_nichtpatch 1.8?
15:55.10Mikk1.6
15:55.18sag_ich_nichtah
15:55.33Mikkthat's when AbandonShip went baibai :S
15:55.33sag_ich_nichti miss my autotravel addon D:
15:55.35sag_ich_nicht(NOT)
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15:55.50sag_ich_nichtwell
15:55.54sag_ich_nichtthere is the bell now :P
15:55.59Mikkcan't go out and grab a smoke while on the boat anymore :<
15:56.01Matrix110Autocorpserun was nice though
15:56.46deltronthe travel was also nice
15:56.59sag_ich_nichtwell
15:57.03sag_ich_nichtit's better this way
15:57.07sag_ich_nicht(kind of)
15:57.13aen`getting a classtimer error, anyone able to help?
15:57.22sag_ich_nichtgiev error
15:57.26sag_ich_nichtelse no help
15:57.27sag_ich_nicht:P
15:57.44yacoobHE WAS NOT PREPARED!
15:57.44sag_ich_nichtgod
15:57.48yacoob(to give you error)
15:57.48sag_ich_nichtblizzard is so dumb
15:57.54aen`locals\zhCN.lua:83:'}' expected (to close '{' at line 5) near '['
15:58.05sag_ich_nichtthey have the gametimecards
15:58.14sag_ich_nichtbut the rub off part, is attached using a sticker
15:58.16Mikkaen`: Unless you're chinese, you can delete that file
15:58.34sag_ich_nichtyou can pull off the sticker carefully without damaging the code
15:58.47aen`i use japanese kanji (which is based off chinese characters)
15:58.50sag_ich_nichtthen reattach it and fakesell it D:
15:59.13Mikkaen`: Delete the file.
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15:59.54sag_ich_nichtmhm
16:00.05sag_ich_nichtlooks like the decided to use a better glue, can't rip it off anymore
16:01.05Shirik"based off"
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16:01.22Antiarc|Worklolz Kenco. "Great idea. Let's design a protocol to work with another mod that doesn't even exist yet."
16:01.34Funkeh`hey all
16:01.36sag_ich_nichtLOL.
16:01.39ShirikKanji /is/ chinese, it's just (1) pronounced differently in Japanese and (2) mixed with hiragana/katakana characters
16:01.43Antiarc|WorkAs my boss likes to say, "There are only three numbers for programmers: 0, 1, and N."
16:01.48Antiarc|WorkAnd Kenco's programming against "2"
16:01.55yacoobShirik, I'd say 'originates from chinese'
16:01.56ShirikAnduinLothar: heh, that's a good statement
16:01.56MikkMhm
16:02.12sag_ich_nichtShirik wrong tab complete :P
16:02.17yacoobeven if the kanji is the same, it often changed meaning
16:02.36CIA-2203nemes * r42241 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Template.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: remove client addons from TOC's optional dependencies; they aren't needed after fixing LOD addon detection
16:02.36Shiriknot really
16:02.49CIA-2203rabbit * r42242 10oRA2/ (14 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: No sense in wrapping these functions in the modulePrototype, just make the modules call the core directly.
16:02.50Shirikhalf the reason I was able to get around in Japan a few years ago is because I had a chinese friend with me ^^;
16:02.57Shirikhell, we couldn't order water until he wrote it on paper in chinese
16:03.34Josh_Borkemizu!
16:03.39Shirikyeah I know that now ><
16:03.44Shirikthe one word I'll never forget lol
16:03.57Josh_Borkekonichiwa!
16:04.01Shirikwrong!
16:04.03Shirikkonnichiwa
16:04.10MikkShirik: well, seeing as how aen` came in here and spoke perfect english, I figured jsut zapping the translatio would be about as good :>
16:04.21Antiarc|WorkOooh
16:04.23Antiarc|WorkI just had a great idea
16:04.24Shirikoh I have no idea what you guys were talking about lol
16:04.28Shirikjust random comment
16:04.31DustwhisperWatashi wa Dustwhisper desu
16:04.33DustwhisperOre no tensai
16:04.35Antiarc|WorkKenco + Daily WTF = party.
16:04.57sag_ich_nichtAntiarc did you invent a way to stab people over TCP/IP?
16:04.59sag_ich_nichtbecause that
16:05.04sag_ich_nicht'd be a great idea.
16:05.13sag_ich_nicht:O
16:05.14Mikki think ammo might be onto something
16:05.28Mikkwith the stabbing bit i mean
16:06.13DustwhisperI've wanted ways to slap people over the internet for years
16:06.19Dustwhisperespecially people in my guild when they fuck up on raids
16:06.56aen`Dustwhisper: nihonjin desuka?
16:07.38Dustwhisperi don't know japanese =) only a tad
16:07.42Dustwhisperfrom some thousand episodes of anime and japanese shows
16:07.52aen`w
16:08.04sag_ich_nichtweaboo
16:08.21deltronlol
16:08.30aen`can i make a conditional macro? like if outlands = true, then use flying mount, else = ground?
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16:08.52snurre[flyable]?
16:09.04nevcairielyeah flyable
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16:09.29aen`ahh flyable
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16:09.56Matrix110if you got more mounts than 1
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16:10.27Matrix110./userandom [flyable] FlyMount1, FlyMount2; GRoundmount1, Groundmount2
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16:10.48aen`do i quote off the name of the mounts?
16:11.02benNo.
16:11.04Arrowmasteri dont think that works matrix
16:11.44Arrowmasterunless it does now due to the changes in last patch
16:12.09jmetry /use [flyable] Ebon Gryphon; Stormpike Battle Charger
16:12.22jme(change the names)
16:12.27aen`aye
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16:12.43jmethat'll use your flying mount if you can, or the land mount if you can't
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16:15.04Kaelteng'morning
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16:15.10nevcairielmorning
16:16.04jmeJosh_Borke: one of our kara MH just gquit last night
16:16.45Josh_Borkeouch
16:16.57jmeyeah, to go to Vox Imperium
16:17.01KaeltenI'm running parrales on mac so I can run windows media player and listen to my music on Urge
16:17.16Antiarc|WorkAhahaha
16:17.21Antiarc|WorkLooks like Kenco's adding skins to KTM20
16:17.29Kaeltenlol
16:17.40Kaeltenhe may not be admitting it but he's feeling the competition.
16:17.44Antiarc|WorkWonder what would possibly inspire him to do that.
16:17.48jmeJosh_Borke: i think he got greedy... the bandits won't see 25 man content for a while yet
16:18.11Kaeltenyou heard him though he says by the end of series 20 you'll never have to update again
16:18.12Kaeltenlol
16:18.22Funkeh`theres a difference between greed and wanting to see end game content
16:18.27Antiarc|WorkYes.
16:18.32Funkeh`its always the same with the lower guilds they think people are greedy
16:18.46Funkeh`its a pay to play game get used to it
16:18.54Kaelten<PROTECTED>
16:19.00Funkeh`i know i am
16:19.23Josh_Borkethat sucks.  personally i am of the opinion that somewhat matches funkeh.  but i am different
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16:21.57jmei want to see endgame content too, and i have only been to kara once since i've hit 70
16:22.12jmeand i've been keyed and geared for it for over a month
16:23.44ggilbertAntiarc, wheee and the fun keeps rolling in.
16:24.32CIA-2203rabbit * r42243 10oRA2/ (6 files in 2 dirs): oRA2: Leader: Use recycled tables for most checks.
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16:24.56Antiarc|Workggilbert: ?
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16:25.10Antiarc|Workggilbert: Also, you were flood-timing-out and auto-rejoining like a madman last night
16:25.30ggilbertAntiarc|Work: Yeah I saw that. I suspect ctrlproxy lost the plot.
16:25.36jmeJosh_Borke: are you on SR's irc?
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16:26.10Josh_Borkejme:  no, i didn't know there was one
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16:29.39CryectJosh_Borke: there used to be one
16:29.41Cryectbut it died
16:30.03Josh_Borkejme is under the impression that there is one :-)
16:30.19Cryectserver seems so dead
16:30.24CryectNeed horde
16:30.34Josh_Borkego play arenas
16:30.43Cryectwell I meant competitive horde on the server
16:30.52Josh_Borkepsh, all the horde on SR suck ;-P
16:31.05Cryectwell that was obvious :-p
16:31.20Cryectfree server transfers off killed them
16:31.58jmeCryect: you're on SR?
16:32.05Cryectyes
16:32.06Josh_Borkehe's in imp
16:32.10jmeah, cool
16:32.30Josh_Borkehe transferred from another server
16:32.37Josh_Borkei don't see WHY anyone would want to do that for imp ;-P
16:32.49jmereroll horde imo
16:33.03Josh_Borkei'm thinking of doing that in the fall, but on a different server
16:33.22Cryectcan't imagine why you want to do it now :-p
16:33.34CryectImp goes through phases
16:33.44Cryectphases of really good to phases of mediocre
16:34.03jmeCryect: i'm in the booty bay bandits, don't know for how much longer though since one of our kara MH's gquit last night
16:34.06Josh_BorkeFS goes through phases.  phases of really crappy to phases of almost mediocre
16:34.30Josh_Borkecryect:  get me a spot in imp ;-P
16:34.40jmeCryect: i'll probably stay... they're cool
16:35.00Cryectwhats a MH??
16:35.01CryectMT?
16:35.04jmemain healer
16:35.05Josh_Borkemain heal
16:35.07Cryectoh!
16:35.15Cryectnot used to the idea of a main healer
16:35.17Josh_Borkei pew pew
16:35.27Josh_Borkeare you feral spec cryect?
16:35.30CryectYeah
16:35.39jmei'm yet another BM hunter
16:35.55CryectSo strange feral is such a crappy arena spec but a good raiding spec now a days
16:36.22Josh_Borkegd, xeons are expensive
16:36.25[dRaCo]healing in karazhan is not really that hard, imo
16:36.28Cryectyes they are
16:36.31[dRaCo]just get a new healer
16:36.42jmei'm sure we will
16:36.52Josh_Borkewho's fault is it when your healer pulls aggro off the tank?
16:36.54Cryectxeons aren't really worth the money unless you need the extra ram cache for something
16:36.57Cryectthe tanks
16:37.04Josh_Borkethat's what i'm thinking
16:37.20Josh_Borkecryect:  well, it's for a server so, we'll see
16:37.33Josh_Borkecryect:  gonna compare opteron 2212 vs xeon e5335
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16:42.04JagobahAnyone here use Prat?
16:42.30yacoobI actually reactivated my account. How weak I am...
16:43.26CIA-2203nemes * r42244 10NShakedown/NShakedown.toc: NShakedown: add forum topic and wiki page
16:43.33Cryectshrug there is no really better game to play at the moment is the issue
16:43.48albcan't wait for warhammer to take me away from this
16:43.51Cryectand no one seems to be copying WoW's UI customizability :'(
16:44.07abyssichateIs anyone noticing discrepancies in background colouring while mouseovering guild members in CowTip?
16:45.00CryectI'm pessimistic on WAR, its mainly seems has to have hype and ideas wtih little actually showing things which makes very suspicious and then ideas that just run with me badly
16:45.22Cryectthen again they are no where near release
16:45.22Josh_Borkei'm confused ckknight
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16:46.40CryectBut for the amount of talking they do in podcasts you think they could show something besides saying we've got COOL ideas repeatedly (and they seem to be ideas sold purely on an energetic talkers as well)
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16:49.00Josh_Borkereading klhtm drama again (oh geebus) and you say that 'x' and 'getglobal("x")' have different speeds: "for 'getglobal("x")', it's a global table lookup (for _G.getglobal), a function call, followed by another global table lookup (actually getting _G.x)."  if that's true, then what is this behavior?: http://ace.pastey.net/70063
16:49.24yacoobCryect, in fact I find both GW and Eve more fun. But for the time being, I want to take a stroll around Azeroth once more.
16:50.52KaeltenJosh_Borke: irrelevant because you're a newb
16:50.59Josh_BorkeKaelten: oh, ok, thanks ;-P
16:51.01CIA-2203antiarc * r42245 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Floor target threat to 0.
16:51.06Josh_BorkeKaelten: gief KC_LinkView :-P
16:51.06Kaeltenjust saving you time :)
16:51.17Antiarc|WorkJosh_Borke: Upgrade your computer >:(
16:51.22Antiarc|WorkAlso: stupid.
16:51.27Josh_Borkehuh?
16:51.31Josh_Borkei wish i could but i'm poor
16:51.41Antiarc|WorkNothing, I'm being a smartass :P
16:51.44Kaeltenme too
16:51.46Kaelten:)
16:51.55Josh_BorkeKaelten: just take the Ace server, you'll be fine ;-P
16:52.03Kaeltenlol
16:52.06Josh_BorkeAntiarc|Work: can you answer my question?
16:52.16Josh_Borkei'm not saying anyone is wrong, i just want it explained to me is all
16:52.30Josh_Borkeit could be as simple as the wow implementation is different
16:52.59KaeltenJosh_Borke: the wow implementation is slightly different but shouldn't be in that case( I wouldn't think anyway)
16:53.22Antiarc|Workprint(x) is two getglobals and a function call. print(getglobal("x")) is two getglobals, a string interning, and two function calls.
16:53.40Josh_Borkeright, but the only real difference is the string interning
16:53.46Antiarc|WorkNo, the latter is two function calls
16:53.47Antiarc|WorkNot one.
16:53.56Josh_Borkeah, right
16:53.58Kaeltenthat and the extra CALL
16:54.03Kaeltenya what Antiarc said
16:54.06Josh_Borkebut no table lookup
16:54.13Antiarc|WorkGETGLOBAL is the table lookup
16:54.52Mikkand, as we established earlier
16:54.56Mikklocal _G = _G
16:55.07Mikk"_G.foo" is faster than "foo"
16:55.17Mikkassuming more than one use obviously, since assigning the local _G takes time too
16:55.36Mikkit's not a LOT faster, but something on the order of 10-20%
16:55.41Mikk15%ish iirc
16:57.37Josh_Borkeso basically the GETGLOBAL opcode is slower than the GETTABLE opcode
16:57.50Mikkyes
16:58.02mikmalol
16:58.03Mikkpossibly because getglobal has to go check which your current FENV is
16:58.07mikmamy post has gone from -2 to +7
16:58.13Mikkand then do the gettable on that
16:58.27Gnarfoz~seen ckknight
16:58.40purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (17h 51m 40s) #norganna (17h 51m 40s) #wowace (17h 51m 40s). Has said a total of 193 messages. Is idling for 8h 26m 26s, last said: 'yea'.
16:58.40Funkeh`mikma: thats my 9 accounts
16:58.40Mikksigh, nargs broke baggins bad
16:58.43mikmaFunkeh`: xD
16:59.36Josh_Borkeok, lunch time bye
16:59.38Josh_Borkethanks guys :-)
16:59.57Josh_Borkei had asked before and no one answered and i always seem to miss the conversations
17:00.16Josh_Borkeso now i understand (for the most part)
17:01.49Mikkah, no, my bad. nargs only added a new file and i didn't restart :>
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17:02.18KirkburnAmavana's last comment on the KTM thing (yes, that again) is very good :)
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17:03.11Kirkburn*sigh* it's a crazy crazy world
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17:05.16CIA-2203mikk * r42246 10Baggins/Baggins_ItemOps.lua: Baggins: Add a mouseover Underline to the "Split" command to indicate that it's in fact clickable
17:06.00NightHawkAtWorkhuh...
17:06.08NightHawkAtWorkCarcasonne on xbla..
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17:06.20Antiarc|WorkKirkburn: Yes, it is. Programming for a maximum of two solutions is a bad idea.
17:06.28Antiarc|WorkYou program for 0 solutions, 1 solution, or N solutions.
17:06.58CryectI like 0 solutiosn
17:07.28durcyn~ktmflame
17:07.29purlfrom memory, ktmflame is http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871
17:07.36Antiarc|WorkHahahahahahahaha.
17:07.38Antiarc|WorkOh man.
17:07.42Mikkliteral ktm
17:07.47Mikk~literal ktm
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17:09.22Cryectso has Kenco heard of the idea of designing protocols before you actually write code?
17:09.48Wobinahahahaa
17:09.52Wobin*cough*
17:10.00Antiarc|Workwhat's protocols, precious.
17:10.15WobinWhy design a protocol when yours is the only program that should ever be used?
17:10.32Antiarc|WorkHonestly, the old-style KTM handling wasn't a problem. It was the only kid on the block. Great.
17:10.50Antiarc|WorkBut when he goes and changes it and then refuses to actually make a change that's helpful? Yeah, got a problem with that.
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17:11.14KirkburnComment links never work for me ... what does http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871 refer to?
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17:11.29durcynKirkburn: 27871 isn't on page1 anymore, who knows
17:11.52CryectSo whats the great string vulnerability he knows about in Lua but isn't spilling the guts on
17:12.00vhaarrdurcyn: MTs work fine here
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17:12.30Antiarc|WorkCryect: Obviously, accepting a string across the network allows you to steal the other person's credit card number
17:12.38Antiarc|Work(loadstringing arbitrary content is fine though)
17:12.41KirkburnWhy the hell would you have members of your guild trying to sabotage you with weird user agents, I dunno
17:13.14Cryectwhat type of protocol could you design that a user agent string is going to causes issues
17:13.17WobinAntiarc: We musn't have that! Quick remove all strings from the Intarweb
17:13.32sedatedChipmunkstrings are bad, mmkay?
17:13.36Cryecti mean if he's concerned about string length hell make it so it has to be max of 8 letters with no spaces or something
17:13.38WobinIf some bright spark writes one with a KTM useragent and sabotages Kenco
17:14.30Antiarc|WorkAs opposed to the current solution where I have to be KTM v1337.80085
17:14.36hyperChipmunkactually
17:14.51Antiarc|Work(Actually being KTM v. leet boobs would be pretty awesome)
17:14.51hyperChipmunkif you wrote a KTMDisruptor addon, I bet ppl would download it
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17:15.29hyperChipmunkUser Agent: "Download Threat-1.0 and files.wowace.com and get with the times, retard."
17:15.37hyperChipmunks/and/from/
17:16.12Antiarc|WorkIf he added user agent support, I'd send "Threat-1.0 r12345 [KTM 19.18 compatible]"
17:16.29WobinAntiarc: duh
17:16.35Wobinit's not 19.18 compatible
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17:16.54Wobinyou're missing an integral part of Kenco's eminiant plan
17:16.57CryectAntiarc you better update your threat there
17:17.00Cryectyou have a really old version
17:17.15KirkburnWhen he said you didn't support half of KTM's stuff, how true is that?
17:17.25Antiarc|WorkKirkburn: The only thing I don't support is KTM clear requests, and that's by design
17:17.35Antiarc|WorkBecause KTM has to clear many times when Omen doesn't due to Omen's multi-target support.
17:17.36CryectWEll you could easily keep a special KTM table
17:17.39Cryectthat you clear
17:17.48stavmarso who is getting an iPhone?
17:17.53Wobinput that table on the shortbus
17:18.08Cryectso half the protocol is clear requests then
17:18.11Wobinyes
17:18.11Antiarc|WorkApparently.
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17:18.34WobinWell Kenco wrote the protocol, he should know!
17:20.08cotangentwhy? It isn't a full threat dump
17:20.27Mikkthat'd explain why it wasn't totally accurate then =)
17:20.37cotangentthough last night I was at the top on omen and the druid below me was tanking, after the next round of knock backs it seemed to be correct again
17:20.59Mikkstandardish % knockback?
17:21.00CryectTop doesn't mean you have aggro
17:21.08Cryectits not a standard knockback
17:21.12cotangentwell top by enough to pull
17:21.15Cryectits 80% I think twas the number they settled on
17:21.22Cryectnormal is 50%
17:21.41Mikkdoesn't sound entirely right tho
17:21.44Antiarc|WorkIt's set at 75%, but I'd had a couple people suggest 80%
17:21.44cotangentthought they were saying 20-25%?
17:21.50Antiarc|WorkWell, right. 0.8 multiplier
17:21.53Antiarc|WorkSo a 20% reduction.
17:21.58cotangentoh check
17:22.16Cryect50% as "normal" might be wrong though
17:22.27CryectI don't think people test threat meters with random trash mobs that often
17:22.46cotangentthe wind serpent in what crypts would be easy to test on
17:23.01Cryectsure but that wouldn't tell us what "normal" is either :-p
17:23.06Cryect<PROTECTED>
17:23.25Antiarc|WorkThe Royal Teromoths outside of Shattrath do a Wing Buffet.
17:23.37Wobinmmm
17:23.42Wobina buffalo wing buffet?
17:23.44Antiarc|WorkAnd they hit like little girls, which makes them great test subjects.
17:24.16cotangentI knew a guy who thought little girls were great to study, I'm hoping he's in jail by now
17:24.39Antiarc|Worko.0
17:24.52kenlyricoozinate them
17:24.56CryectAntiarc is that guy
17:25.09Antiarc|Work0.o
17:25.10Cryecthow do you think he could make the comparison
17:25.24Cryecttakes years of long research to say definatively something hits like a girl
17:25.37Mikkhave lots of little sisters?
17:25.38Cryector little girl to be precise
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17:29.50mikmawhat's the best there is?
17:30.02mikmado you need clarification or do you wanna just answer me first
17:30.51Cryectbest there is?
17:31.01Gnarfozckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1194 - hope this helps for the CowTip fade module, did some testing :)
17:31.32durcynvhaarr: ok, will test in a few hours
17:32.13mikmayeah ;)
17:32.46CIA-2203fenlis * r42247 10oRA2/ (20 files in 4 dirs): oRA2 : Updated localization koKR
17:33.04abyssichateGnarfoz: glad I am not the only one that still gets fading out effect even when the fade module is totally disabled :s
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17:33.26Gnarfozabyssichate: huh? without the fade module, that's the expected behaviour
17:33.39Gnarfozit should probably be called a hide module to be more precise :>
17:34.42abyssichateWell, I want them to instantly disappear whenever I mouseout of the target, so I enabled the fade module and ticked "immediate hide" but it doesn't look like I am getting what I want yet
17:35.12Gnarfozyes
17:35.22abyssichatealso, do you use coloured backgrounds?
17:35.24Gnarfozbut disabling it won't get you what you want, either ;-)
17:35.41Gnarfozyes, I am (the default colors)
17:35.44abyssichateDid you ever notice wrong colouring on guild members? Some of them are coloured as "Others" for me
17:35.51abyssichatethey won't show health/power bars either
17:36.16Gnarfozup to date? ^^
17:36.35Gnarfozdunno, power/health bars have been flaky for me, some units have both, none or either
17:36.35abyssichateyeah
17:36.42abyssichateI always had that
17:36.57abyssichateYes, those units that have none are coloured as "Other" tooltip if you pay attention
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17:37.45abyssichatethe default colours are all pretty close to each other's gradients, so you will not notice it I think
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17:39.02goetterI've got what I hope is a simple question: can anyone think of a mod which would cause my pvp objective capture (slider) bar to disappear? Or an addon to make it reappear?
17:39.25deltronthere's an option in the blizzard interface options
17:39.30deltronI don't remember the default name
17:39.39deltronthat happened to a buddy
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17:40.09goetterNo, that option is for showing world pvp objectives on your map.
17:40.14goetteri.e. the towers in EPL
17:41.26deltronthe sliders are also there I thought
17:43.33goetterIf you could find that option, I'd be impressed.. but I'm pretty sure it's not there.
17:43.36durcynthe frame is called CaptureMover, and its visibility is set in interface options.
17:43.45durcyn"world pvp objective frame" iirc.
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17:44.19durcyni know simpleMinimap has a module that allows you to move it, but I'm relatively confident it's not parented to MinimapFrame
17:44.55deltroncapping maybe?
17:45.59goetterI do have capping installed, I haven't tried uninstalling it (found no option relevant in capping)
17:46.20goetterThe world pvp objective setting in interface I don't think has anything to do with it.. at least, when I set it to "always", I still don't ge the slider.
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17:46.39goetterI'll try disabling capping, and simpleminimap
17:46.55KarlThePagangoetter, simpleMinimap lets you move that, it does seem inconsistent :/
17:47.12KarlThePaganfor me it snaps back underneath the map until i re-activate the movers module
17:48.17CIA-2203mikk * r42248 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Prevent an error caused by the "Compressable" indicator if bags are deleted
17:49.30durcynwell, i'll be damned.  smm does reparent CaptureMover to MinimapCluster.  and yes, CaptureMover IS the slider.
17:50.03hyperChipmunkthat's what it's already parented to
17:50.12durcynoh?  i must be thinking of the objective counter
17:50.26hyperChipmunkthat's AlwaysUpFrame
17:50.51Antiarc|WorkI just had a fun idea. I could post a tutorial on how to use Threat-1.0 from non-Ace addons.
17:50.57Antiarc|WorkSee if that gets non-Ace authors to try poking at it.
17:51.15abyssichateGnarfoz: do you use Tattle?
17:51.20GnarfozI do.
17:51.27Gnarfozand VanasKoS, also
17:51.40Gnarfoz(both mentioned in the bug report ^^)
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17:52.15abyssichateThat's why we don't see the bars
17:52.20KarlThePaganAuldLangSyne needs a search box ;)
17:52.22abyssichateand the coloured guild backgrounds
17:52.55abyssichateThose whose stats are filled with Tattle data will be threated as "Other" tooltip, so they will not get guild background colours and neither will they have power/health bars :)
17:53.07abyssichateI noticed it now, I'll tell that to ckknight later
17:53.35Wobinhm
17:53.40Wobinis http://bigredkitty.blogspot.com/2007/03/shattered-halls-bug-brk-exclusive.html still a valid bug?
17:54.21CIA-2203antiarc * r42249 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: :GetTPS() optimization
17:55.21durcynbigredkitty.  heh.
17:56.58WobinBRK is a great blog for beastmaster spec hunter info
17:57.19ArrowmasterWobin: easy way to test, i used to notice my pet would always bug out on that spot and get stuck
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18:02.12deltronhttp://www.breitbart.tv/html/2329.html
18:02.13deltronLMAO
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18:04.44ThebAnyone able to help me with a problem I'm having with the WAU?
18:05.04Antiarc|WorkPossibly. What's the problem?
18:05.19sag_ich_nichtAntiarc
18:05.19Thebgetting errors saying its unable to connect to the remote server and such
18:05.29_art3misit doesnt download all the things that i think it should get nd the then it doesnt play my game!
18:05.33Antiarc|WorkWell, that sounds like it's a connection thing ;)
18:05.33sag_ich_nichtsmall feature request
18:05.35Thebi have .net 2.0 installed
18:05.38Antiarc|WorkSo I'd say just try again later.
18:05.41sag_ich_nichtallow me to remove the row titles
18:05.56Antiarc|WorkMan, you people always want something! :D
18:05.56Thebnah i dont really think its connection per se
18:05.57sag_ich_nichtthey take up screen space for nothing :P
18:05.57Antiarc|Work(okay)
18:06.00sag_ich_nichtthanks
18:06.07Antiarc|WorkTheb: Check which mirror you're using in the options
18:06.17Thebfiles.wowace.com
18:06.23Thebwhich is up
18:06.36Thebalso in the addon window its not actually displaying the addons i have installed currently
18:07.15Antiarc|WorkThat's because it can't connect to download the mod list.
18:07.40Thebis there a port it's tryign to use that i might have blocked or something?
18:07.51Mikkport 80
18:07.51Antiarc|WorkDoubt it - it's probably just using 80.
18:08.02Mikkwhat version are you using?
18:08.07Theblatest
18:08.09Theb1.9.18.412
18:08.11sag_ich_nichtAntiarc also the version number below the frame
18:08.18sag_ich_nichtunless that's already in and i overlooked it somewhere
18:08.19sag_ich_nicht>.>
18:08.23Mikklocal firewall software that thinks it can't talk to the net?
18:08.34Thebi dont think its a firewall or anything
18:08.45Mikkwell, the server is up :P
18:08.51Thebyeah i know hehe
18:08.59Antiarc|Worksag_ich_nicht: That'll go away once Omen hits 1.0 Final
18:09.02ThebError During Download: System.Net.WebException: Unable to connect to the remote server ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: The attempted operation is not supported for the type of object referenced
18:09.05Antiarc|WorkI want it in for bug report screenshots right now.
18:09.20ZurksAntiarc|Work any ETA for 1.0? ^-^
18:09.21Antiarc|WorkAh, that's different from connection refused.
18:09.22MikkWeird error
18:09.25Antiarc|WorkZurks: when it's done! :D
18:09.26MikkDoesn't sound networky no
18:09.29Thebyeah
18:09.35ZurksWhere have I heard that before? :)
18:09.36Antiarc|Work(I need to fix warlock pet threat and address a few GUI issues)
18:09.38Thebi've uninstalled and reinstalled .net 2.0
18:09.48Thebso i dunno why it's not operating properly still
18:09.58Mikkdid you use earlier version fine?
18:10.01Thebyep
18:10.07Antiarc|Workhttp://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/error10045.htm
18:10.08KarlThePaganuse the old version imo
18:10.12Antiarc|WorkCheck that out, I guess.
18:10.19Antiarc|WorkOr revert to an older version of 1.9
18:10.41Antiarc|WorkThat looks like it's a Winsock issue, actually.
18:11.55Mikki'm riding 1.9.5
18:12.03Mikknot really wanting to upgrade
18:12.16KarlThePaganwait for 2.0 ;)
18:12.31KarlThePaganunless you're javaphobic
18:12.47CIA-2203funkydude * r42251 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua:
18:12.47CIA-22BigWigs: Outland/Doomwalker:
18:12.47CIA-22- now based on a yell system
18:12.47CIA-22- adjusted primary overrun timer
18:12.47CIA-22- no more sync
18:12.48CIA-22- will need new localization
18:12.57MikkKarlThePagan: no more than i am .netophobic :P
18:13.13sag_ich_nicht[20:08] <Antiarc|Work> sag_ich_nicht: That'll go away once Omen hits 1.0 Final <-- :)
18:13.48sag_ich_nichtmhm
18:13.48sag_ich_nichtcan't get dungeoncrawler to do anything
18:13.48KarlThePaganMikk, I've been looking for an adequate term to describe the irrational fear/hatred of java apps
18:13.50KarlThePagan;)
18:14.13Thebwell, nothing in 1.9 works but using 1.8.53 i wont get any error msg but it'll just say Parsing 0 Entries In The Index File...Complete
18:14.18Mikkthey make my 686 feel like a 386 :S
18:14.19Mikk^ enuf
18:14.20CIA-2203krytharn * r42252 10Reputation/ (. Reputation.lua Reputation.toc):
18:14.20CIA-22Reputation: initial commit
18:14.20CIA-22- this addon checks if you gain reputation with a faction and then automatically enables the watch bar for that faction
18:14.48Mikkwhether this is a failing in java or a result of too bloody many crap ajva programmers i don't relaly know
18:14.58Funkeh`Theb: download WAU to desktop instead, if thats the location you currently use, try a different location
18:15.11Thebyeah i put it in a folder on the desktop
18:15.20Funkeh`try a different location then
18:15.28KarlThePaganMikk, I blame the programmers... and the string concatenation operator
18:15.37Mikkhaha
18:16.04sag_ich_nichtCryect you there?
18:16.08Thebsame problems
18:16.17Theblocation of the exe doesnt matter
18:16.47Thebused to work just fine dunno why latest versions dont work
18:16.52KarlThePaganeasy way to waste cpu and memory in java... String s = "" while(s.length() < 1000000) s += '.';
18:17.08Mikkworks fine in lua too :>
18:17.15KarlThePaganhell, you could make that 20,000 ;)
18:17.47KarlThePaganspeaking of which... is there such a thing as a string builder in lua? ;)
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18:18.20CIA-2203pastamancer * r42253 10Grid/GridStatusHealth.lua:
18:18.20CIA-22Grid:
18:18.20CIA-22StatusHealth - remove death cache.
18:19.20CIA-2203antiarc * r42254 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added a toggle under the skin menu for column headings.
18:19.38sag_ich_nichtmhm
18:19.43sag_ich_nichtworks after a reloadui
18:19.57Antiarc|WorkKarlThePagan: What do you mean?
18:20.07Antiarc|WorkYou have string.format and table.concat, if that's what you mean.
18:20.16sag_ich_nichtthanks Antiarc <3
18:20.25Antiarc|WorkLet me know if it breaks, sag_ich_nicht
18:21.18KarlThePaganyea, simple enough tools Antiarc ;) the slick thing about StringBuilder and similar things in java is that you can regex on them without turning them into strings...
18:21.24KarlThePaganby way of the CharSequence interface
18:21.57KarlThePaganbut, I'll admit except for some very specific use cases it isn't that great
18:22.09pastamancerI thought the only reason java needed the StringBuilder is because String is an object and char is a type
18:22.37pastamancerand it's more efficient to deal with an array of char than creating a ton of strings
18:22.39CIA-2203funkydude * r42255 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Doomwalker: syntax -_-
18:22.39goetterdurcyn: If simpleminimap is hiding it, how can I get it to show it again? I can't seem to find it anywhere in the options.
18:22.43goetter... of simpleminimap
18:23.20KarlThePaganpastamancer, yes and no... the main reason is that Strings are immutable in java (like lua I guess) so unneccessary concatenation will destroy your memory/cpu
18:23.21Funkeh`Theb: yes it does
18:23.39Funkeh`Theb: in every case of the reported '0 addons showing' downloading to a new location fixes the problem
18:23.46Funkeh`so you did something wrong
18:24.06Antiarc|WorkStrings are immutable in Lua, too.
18:24.11KarlThePaganit's actually more efficient to deal with strings in many ways, there's some VM vodoo that checks the "locality" of variables and who could have modified them and if it can assume they weren't changed... well it does some vodoo
18:24.22KarlThePaganI sorta zoned out during that session
18:24.44Antiarc|WorkIt's more efficient to use a table.concat if you're building a string in a loop, because each new string gets interned,
18:24.52KarlThePaganyea
18:24.57KarlThePagansimilar principle
18:25.13sag_ich_nicht[20:20] <Antiarc|Work> Let me know if it breaks, sag_ich_nicht <--sure :O
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18:27.59sag_ich_nichtbtw.
18:28.09sag_ich_nichtwhy does the changelog downloaded by the patcher only show the most recent change anymore?
18:28.16sag_ich_nichtkind of invalidates the sense of a changelog
18:28.40CIA-2203krytharn * r42256 10Reputation/: Reputation: -first version
18:30.11KarlThePaganpastamancer, sag_ich_nicht has a good point there - also it occurs to me that if we put the changelog on the server-side we should keep multiple entries in the file... otherwise that's more files for WAU to download
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18:31.16CIA-2203antiarc * r42257 10Omen/OmenDisplay.lua: Omen: Fixed an incorrect operator.
18:32.03CIA-2203antiarc * r42258 10Omen/OmenDisplay.lua: Omen: Fixed column offset calculations.
18:33.42sag_ich_nichtlol :D
18:34.32sag_ich_nichtAntiarc
18:34.37sag_ich_nichtthere is a slight problem
18:34.53sag_ich_nichtyou only get the rightclick menu for the bars with this option on
18:35.19Antiarc|Workhuh?
18:35.36sag_ich_nichtthere is no area to rightclick in the omen window that gives you the normal omen dewdrop menu
18:35.46JagobahAnyone here use Prat?
18:36.04deltroni do
18:36.09sag_ich_nichtactually
18:36.11sag_ich_nichtthere is an area
18:36.18sag_ich_nichtit's just very, very, VERY thin.
18:36.38Antiarc|WorkHehe, yes
18:36.49deltronholy crap
18:36.50Antiarc|Work(Use the FuBar, luke)
18:36.54deltrona blue post in the shaman forums
18:36.55sag_ich_nicht(i did, hurdur)
18:36.59Antiarc|Work*grin*
18:37.11Antiarc|WorkAny ideas how to solve that in a friendly manner?
18:38.39hyperChipmunkshift-rclick?
18:38.54[dRaCo]deltron: stating what?
18:39.12Antiarc|WorkShift-rclick would work
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18:39.33deltron[dRaCo]: that there is no ETA for enhancement changes
18:39.35deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114661672&pageNo=1&sid=1#6
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18:40.39[dRaCo]... great.
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18:41.38sag_ich_nichtgah
18:41.39CIA-2203antiarc * r42259 10Omen/ (OmenDisplay.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added shift modifier to bar right clicks; shift-rightclick now opens the Omen menu.
18:41.41sag_ich_nichtstupid crash
18:41.55sag_ich_nichtthat's also an solution
18:42.03sag_ich_nichti was going to suggest making the dragging button rightclickable
18:42.04sag_ich_nichtX)
18:42.12KaeltenAntiarc: how dare you update so often!
18:42.12sag_ich_nichterm
18:42.24sag_ich_nicht-dragging +resizing
18:42.25sag_ich_nichtthere :P
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18:42.58CIA-2203jncl * r42260 10Skinner/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:42.58CIA-22Skinner: Added checks for Addons with odd names
18:42.58CIA-22- Added checks for Dewdrop and Tablet
18:42.58CIA-22- Fix Fadeheight bug in Dewdrop and Tablet
18:42.58CIA-22- Change to PetPaperDollFrame skin
18:42.59CIA-22- Fix for GameTooltip Fadeheight bug
18:43.01CIA-22- Reputation Bar now skinned
18:44.32sag_ich_nichtgod
18:44.39sag_ich_nichtthe updater tends to crash a lot
18:44.40sag_ich_nicht><
18:45.02ZurksYeah
18:45.16ZurksTends to do it when I minimize it whilst it is updating.
18:45.29sag_ich_nichttends to do it when i hammer F5 to refresh the index :P
18:45.38sag_ich_nichtwell, cache actually
18:46.34Antiarc|WorkKaelten: File a trac ticket please
18:46.38Antiarc|WorkOr update your existing one. :P
18:47.00Kaelten:P
18:47.09Kaeltennot my ticket and you know I'm just giving you  hell
18:49.09CIA-2203rabbit * r42261 10oRA2/Leader/Loot.lua: oRA2: Leader/Loot: Drycoded tweaks.
18:49.32Antiarc|WorkI know :P
18:49.40Antiarc|WorkI'm givin' you hell back!
18:49.56Antiarc|Work(Call it a white hellephant gift)
18:50.24art3miswhat about a hellifino?
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18:51.40sag_ich_nichthttp://atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=952
18:53.01CIA-2203funkydude * r42262 10KC_Items/ (KC_Items.toc embeds.xml): KC_Items: use embeds.xml
18:55.33Fisker-btw
18:56.06Fisker-are you using the oldest of oldests phpbb3 or are you just forcing the secondary style?
18:56.15sag_ich_nichtAntiarc the frame invertes if it's empty with the option on
18:56.46sag_ich_nichtthe lower end is on the top end and reverse
18:57.00Fisker-it's pretty funny btw
18:57.02sag_ich_nichti assume some height to -1 setting or something breaking it
18:57.09Fisker-you can use RLE and RLO characters on phpbb
18:57.16Fisker-to screw up the topiclisting etc.
18:57.16Fisker-;D
18:57.33sag_ich_nichtresizing it fixes it, until you rightclick it
18:57.47Antiarc|WorkHrm. Okay.
18:58.47Antiarc|WorkWhy do so many people capitalize Omen as OMEN?
18:59.05hyperChipmunkall addons are acronyms, duh
18:59.06Sroshsame people that write "ACE"
18:59.11hyperChipmunksee ACE
18:59.22CIA-2203funkydude * r42263 10OneBag/ (. OneBag.toc embeds.xml): OneBag: use embeds.xml
18:59.24CIA-2203funkydude * r42264 10OneView/ (. OneView.toc embeds.xml): OneView: use embeds.xml
19:00.40Matrix110Can you define in the config if you want Stereo sound instead of 5.1?
19:01.10MikkWoWthat's a windows thing
19:01.24starlons
19:01.29Matrix110bla-.-
19:01.33Matrix1105.1 in WoW Sucks ass
19:01.40Matrix110but i want it in other games
19:01.44sag_ich_nicht[21:00] <Matrix110> Can you define in the config if you want Stereo sound instead of 5.1? <--no, but in config.WTF
19:01.56Matrix110where?
19:01.58Matrix110didnt find it
19:02.01sag_ich_nichti don't know anymore
19:02.02Matrix110and i meant config.wtf:P
19:02.19sag_ich_nichtyou have to change the sound system WoW uses, basicially
19:05.27art3misGame of Death is awesome
19:05.32art3misKareem vs Bruce Lee
19:05.52Matrix110SET SoundOutputSystem i guess
19:06.03Matrix110the question is what attribute it should get-.-
19:06.17sag_ich_nichtthere is a list somewhere
19:06.20sag_ich_nichtgo google it
19:06.20sag_ich_nicht:O
19:06.26art3mis2.1!
19:08.03Josh_Borkesagst du nichts!
19:08.14sag_ich_nichttoo lazy to do so :P
19:09.09Matrix1101 = Windows Multimedia 2 = Direct Sound 3 = Aureal3D 4 = Open Sound System -1 = Auto select (default)
19:09.15Matrix110hmm bla
19:09.19Matrix110that doesnt help me-.-
19:10.03Matrix110ill just set Windows to Stero for wow i guess
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19:12.00CIA-2203mikk * r42265 10IgnoreMore/IgnoreMore.toc: IgnoreMore: 1.03
19:12.06SroshMatrix110, SET SoundUseHardware "0" in config.wtf
19:12.24MikkWoWerm is that a good idea?
19:12.26Matrix110already got that doesnt help:P
19:12.32Sroshstrange, does it for me
19:14.03Sroshguess it depends on your sound card then, hm
19:14.40deltroni wonder if that would fix the clicks I get when playing
19:15.20abyssichatehttp://imageigloo.com/images/7810ILLIDAN.JPG
19:15.25abyssichateDuh at that trinket
19:15.30art3misjust cheat and set yer speakers to 2.1 ;P
19:15.34sag_ich_nicht[21:09] <Matrix110> 1 = Windows Multimedia 2 = Direct Sound 3 = Aureal3D 4 = Open Sound System -1 = Auto select (default) <--there are more options for that :P
19:15.37art3misin the aureal settings
19:15.41Sroshit's unfortunate there's no way to just disable directional sound
19:15.45Josh_Borkeoh geebus
19:15.48Josh_Borkelolade is in that channel
19:15.53CIA-2203eblume * r42266 10FuBar_BabelFu/ (FuBar_BabelFu.lua FuBar_BabelFu.toc Locale-enUS.lua icon.tga):
19:15.53CIA-22FuBar_BabelFu.lua
19:15.53CIA-22<PROTECTED>
19:15.59SroshI don't need to know "where" the sound comes from
19:16.10deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115042266&sid=1
19:16.14sag_ich_nichttry setting it to 1 instead of 2
19:16.16sag_ich_nichtshould fix it
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19:16.50sag_ich_nicht(well, actually, break it, since it makes WoW not use directsound :P)
19:17.18Kenichidoes anyone know of any addons that could count dodges throughout combat?
19:17.36Kenichior something of the like
19:18.17Antiarc|WorkRecount should
19:19.03Sroshpws > daze - too bad it doesn't hold for long these days *g*
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19:20.46CIA-2203eblume * r42267 10FuBar_BabelFu/libs/ (31 files in 11 dirs):
19:20.46CIA-22FuBar_BabelFu
19:20.46CIA-22<PROTECTED>
19:22.41sag_ich_nicht-.-
19:22.46sag_ich_nichtone inscribed noble topaz in the AH
19:22.49sag_ich_nichtfor 55g
19:22.49sag_ich_nicht-.-
19:23.11Kenichithanks antiarc
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19:24.34kenlyricsounds about right.
19:24.34symianHi guys. You've probably seen my recent commits to FuBar_BabelFu
19:24.42symianI'm having the damndest time getting externals working.
19:25.03symianBasically, I seem to have checked in to my mod hard copies of the libraries, and yet at the same time set the externals
19:25.15symianBut I can't seem to delete the hard copies without also removing the external information
19:25.25symianAny ideas?
19:25.36GagorianI can check
19:25.41symianThanks, I appreciate it.
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19:27.45flukes1lo all, is there an event which fires when a raid member gets disconnected (i.e. loses connection to WoW)
19:27.47GagorianHrmm. SVN client errored on checkout. I'll just redo entire libs
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19:28.11Josh_Borkei don't believe they have externals set
19:28.22symianGagorian, I definitely appreciate it.
19:28.44symianIn the future, is there a guide I can follow to set externals BEFORE the initial check-in?
19:29.00deltronGagorian: my screenshot shows what drdamage reports my ES as
19:29.02Josh_Borkehere's what you do
19:29.04symianI was following the SVN for Idiots guide, and ran aground when it told me how to do it mid-stream
19:29.42Josh_Borkesvn co the folder as it is now
19:29.45Josh_Borkesvn del libs/*
19:29.52Josh_Borkesvn commit that
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19:30.07symianand then set externals?
19:30.08Josh_Borkesvn propedit svn:externals libs
19:30.10Josh_Borkeyes
19:30.24symianDo i need to create the libs directory first?
19:30.26symianBefore the propset
19:30.57Josh_Borkethe libs directory is already there
19:31.16Josh_Borkeif there is not one, then you need to create the libs directory but not one for each library
19:32.00symianOh, so you mean after the svn del libs/*, I should leave the physical libs directory?
19:32.06Josh_Borkeyes
19:32.15symianAnd that's not going to cause issues? Because I think I tried that before and it said "libs is not under revision control".
19:32.31Josh_Borkeyou have already added the libs directory
19:32.34Josh_Borkeso now it is
19:32.36Josh_Borkebefore it wasn't
19:33.06symianBut after I run "svn del libs/*" it won't be anymore, won't it?
19:34.57CIA-2203gagorian * r42268 10FuBar_BabelFu/ (. libs/):
19:34.57CIA-22FuBar_BabelFu:
19:34.57CIA-22- Attempt to fix externals
19:36.34symianAwesome, thanks Gagorian.
19:36.56symianAnd Josh_Borke I'll meditate on your advice and see if I can't figure out how to do it from scratch next time.
19:37.10symianI'm still not 100% on how to go from hard-copies to externals.
19:37.41symianWOh Woh Woh... Gagorian you put forward slashes in by file paths!
19:37.51symianIn my*
19:39.17symianDo Not Want!
19:39.22GagorianHmmmmmm?
19:39.31symianYou used forward slashes in the libs directory
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19:39.37symianAnd now the whole thing is messed up
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19:39.56symianI don't have a libs directory any more, now I have six or seven "libs\<library>" directories
19:39.58GagorianWorks fine on my SVN copy
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19:40.58symianGagorian, are you using Windows?
19:41.05CIA-2203gagorian * r42269 10FuBar_BabelFu/:
19:41.05CIA-22FuBar_BabelFu:
19:41.06CIA-22- Now?
19:41.08GagorianYes
19:41.11symianah, thanks, let's see
19:41.51symianYes! That's perfect,t hanks.
19:42.08GagorianMyeah. Maybe your SVN client handles it differently
19:43.06Antiarc|Worko.0
19:43.19Antiarc|Workhttp://www.google.com/sorry/misc/?continue=
19:43.30kebinusanseems someone broke the movers for simple minimap or something, the pvp capture thing is stuck in the middle of my screen
19:43.47sag_ich_nichtlol Antiarc
19:44.15Antiarc|Work:(
19:44.29sag_ich_nicht>8)
19:44.40sag_ich_nicht~~~~~~
19:44.40purlACTION takes out a revolver and shoots sag_ich_nicht in the head three times.
19:44.46sag_ich_nichtoh noes
19:45.44CIA-2203arrowmaster * r42270 10GloryLib/ (Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc embeds.xml):
19:45.44CIA-22.Glory-2.0:
19:45.44CIA-22-use embeds.xml
19:45.44CIA-22-drycoded Eye of the Storm win/loss tracking
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19:48.22art3miswow, purl is one hardcore mutha fu,......
19:48.27Gagoriandeltron: Oh, missed your message. What screenshot?
19:51.36CIA-2203krytharn * r42271 10Reputation/ (. Reputation.lua): Reputation: -disabled debug flag, all seems to work fine
19:51.41NeoTronso it's correct you no longer need a warlock tank for leotheras right?
19:52.03sag_ich_nichthttp://xkcd.com/c283.html awww X)
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19:54.58art3mishi clad
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19:56.24Gagoriandeltron: ping
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19:57.41art3mishey look everyone its ominous
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19:57.51Ominouswhat have i done??
19:57.54art3misnothing
19:57.59art3misthats why im pointing you out
19:57.59Ominouslol hey
19:58.09art3misget off yer ass and code, monkey boy!
19:58.16Ominouswhat do u want me to do
19:58.20art3misumm
19:58.23art3misstuff
19:58.28art3misheh actually
19:58.31toddit's more comfortable to code while on your ass
19:58.38art3misya know that thingy that hyper is working on?
19:59.02art3mismake it so it can be a swissarmy actionbars ;P
19:59.16art3miswith button presses that make the bars extend ;P
19:59.30art3misand then do my laundry
19:59.52art3misi actually cant think of any addons that i want
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20:00.27durcynexcept it's no longer possible to move secure frames or buttons in combat, so that doesn't really work
20:00.36art3misdont need to move during combat
20:00.53toddhow about one that lets you write notes about people on your friends list or ignore list?
20:00.57art3miswas thinking more along the lines of say healer bar dps bar, skills bars
20:00.58toddI always forget why I added people
20:01.00todd:P
20:01.01art3misthat kind of thing.
20:01.10CIA-2203pettigrow * r42272 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update
20:01.11art3mishah todd
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20:02.51art3misdurcyn: not auto changing, you have say 6 bars.. and tick boxes make them "rotate" from the circle to form parallel bars so they can be hidden if you dont need em and visible if you do
20:03.07durcynokay.  go write it then.
20:03.34PanyeI need help with WAU and SAL, I've following instructions on forums... updated addon's without external, yet when I log back into game addon's dont seem to be working at all
20:03.49todddo you have all the required libs?
20:04.09Panyewell I d/l SAL from WAU?
20:04.39Ominousany errors?
20:04.52durcyntodd: AuldLangSyne does that already, iirc.
20:05.00art3misremembered to enable them and load out of date?
20:05.29Panyenone, from what I seen...
20:05.38toddalso enable the option to display errors in your interface options
20:05.48toddthanks, durcyn, I'll give it a try
20:05.48Panyein WAU?
20:05.51toddno
20:05.53toddin wow
20:06.30Panyeit seems lick wow cant find the addon's once I've updated this way now
20:06.46Panyelike*
20:06.58OminousPanye: it will just be a missing library
20:07.06toddenable the option to display errors and restart wow
20:07.15OminousPanye, just enable erros in wow interface options, and type /console reloadui
20:07.16Panyeok doing that now
20:07.25Ominousand tell us the error
20:08.12GagorianPanye: Have you downloaded SAL normally, extracted to Addons folder and then updated through WAU?
20:08.15GagorianWith no-ext
20:08.40GagorianAfter that, most addons should work
20:08.43KirkburnNew Illidan drop: Skull of Gul'dan! A caster trinket :D
20:08.44GagorianSome lib might be missing
20:08.52GagorianKirkburn: Yeah saw it. Was pretty decent
20:09.02GagorianFinally something to replace neltharion's tear :p
20:09.22Panyewhere's this option?
20:09.31OminousPanye:  bottom
20:09.37Ominousenable lua errors
20:09.41Ominousor enable script errors
20:10.38Panyeok, then /console reloadui?
20:10.47MikkWoWyes
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20:10.55Kody-Eh, that trinket should be a legendary item honestly
20:11.06Kody-Seems pretty weak to have the skull of gul'dan as an epic
20:11.07Pheredhelhow can i save the current minimap position of an fubar plugin ?
20:11.18MikkWoWautosaved
20:11.26Pheredhelthanks
20:12.14Panyenothing been show due to buggrabber
20:12.32Ominoustype /buggrabber 1
20:14.01Panyeok... !stopthespam\stopthespam.lua.35: attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)
20:15.01Gagorian[23:12:08] <Gagorian> Panye: Have you downloaded SAL normally, extracted to Addons folder and then updated through WAU?
20:15.02Funkeh`is there a function that returns the remaining time on pvp
20:15.15hyperChipmunkno
20:15.24CryectWhy is the skull of gul'dan epic when the warglaives are legendaries
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20:15.39Funkeh`hyperChipmunk: @ me?
20:15.42hyperChipmunkyea
20:15.47Gnarfozthe skull should be a damn artifact but whatever
20:15.47Pheredhelabout naming addons fubar_...  when should I do it, if it makes (almost) no sense to run it without or how should I decide?
20:15.48Gnarfoz:D
20:15.48hyperChipmunkglorylib has something though, i think
20:15.49PanyeGagorian: no just downloaded them via WAU 1.9
20:15.51Funkeh`damn
20:16.16MikkWoWPheredhel: that sounds about right
20:17.10GagorianPanye: Well, WAU couldn't handle that properly at least in earlier versions.
20:17.11Pheredhelthe problem is: it provides the possibility to display its information (who broke a cc spell) also in chat and as warning centered on sceen ...
20:17.16MikkWoWtho the "almost" is a bit lose
20:17.23GagorianSo just, download it properly. Extract. Then do a full WAU update.
20:18.03Pheredhelshould i name the addon with or without FuBar_, what do you think makes most sense?
20:18.07Panyedownload from wowace.com/files?
20:18.22GagorianPanye: Make sure you extract all the libs folders into the Addons folder directly. Not into Addons\!!!StandAloneLibraries
20:18.24GagorianPanye: yes
20:19.41CryectNeoTron: Correct, I would say a warrior tank works better just so your prot warrior has more use on the fight
20:20.01OminousPanye: restart wow
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20:21.07KornHello, excuse me
20:21.07Panyeok downloaded !!!SAL, now extract to the addon folder?
20:21.07MikkWoWok, you're excused
20:21.07Kornlol.
20:21.15Korni was wondering if there's a mod like Archeologist in ace ?
20:21.31MikkWoWwhat'd that one do again?
20:21.51KarlThePaganthat's tweaks the blizzard unit frames
20:21.56OminousPanye: Open WAU, selcet !!SAL, then update all addons
20:22.06Ominousthen go File, Reinstall All ADdons
20:22.10KarlThePaganKorn, you want agUF, PitBull, Perl-X or any other unit frame addon
20:22.21GagorianOminous: Does WAU properly handle SAL now?
20:22.22KarlThePaganonly one of those
20:22.25Korni just want simple ones thou :/
20:22.44OminousGagorian, WAU1.9 does
20:22.44KarlThePaganGagorian, wau1.9 has for a long time, wau2 doesn't exactly yet :/
20:22.45hyperChipmunkwut is simple?
20:22.56KarlThePaganbut it won't break badly anymore
20:22.57GagorianOminous: Alright
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20:23.30Korni tried pitbull, it hangs alot on bg's.. same goes with ag_unit
20:23.52KarlThePagancommon problem, there have been recent fixes - make sure you're up to date!
20:24.15PanyeI have WAU 1.9.18.412
20:24.36OminousGagorian: also you dont need SAL if X-Embeds are set up properly in wau2
20:24.45OminousPanye: just o what i said
20:24.50Panyeok seleted all addon's and am now doing the reinstall
20:24.57Ominousno
20:24.59Ominousfirst update
20:25.04Ominouswith sal selected
20:25.20Ominousthen go File --> Reinstall All Addons
20:26.14PanyeI already have SAL under installed packages.. does that matter?
20:26.19Ominousno
20:26.32Ominouserm
20:26.33Ominousyes
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20:26.55Panyeok, selected just SAL and installed/updated
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20:29.04Panyenow what?
20:29.21Ominouserm what i said above
20:30.22Panyeoops..
20:31.47Panyeok done... fingers crossed
20:32.40Antiarc|Workhttp://consumerist.com/consumer/supply-and-demand/string-bikinis-now-available-for-toddlers-273272.php
20:32.40Antiarc|WorkI.
20:32.42Antiarc|WorkWhat.
20:32.45Antiarc|WorkJust...no.
20:33.22GagorianAntiarc|Work: WTF -_-
20:33.27Antiarc|WorkWTF indeed.
20:33.36Antiarc|WorkWho is the genius that thought that would be a good idea?
20:33.42Panyebah didn't work
20:33.47Fisker-pedobear approves
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20:35.57lhunathClearFont2 is crashing my WoW.
20:35.57CIA-2203strange * r42273 10FuriousRaid/:
20:35.58CIA-22FuriousRaid:
20:35.58CIA-22- updated externals
20:36.04lhunathupon login.
20:36.22lhunathr42075
20:36.22CIA-2203strange * r42274 10FuriousTask/:
20:36.22CIA-22FuriousTask:
20:36.22CIA-22- updated externals
20:36.28sbuhmhm WAU crash
20:37.01CIA-2203strange * r42275 10FuriousWaitlist/:
20:37.01CIA-22FuriousWaitlist:
20:37.01CIA-22- updated externals
20:37.02PanyeOminous: still no joy... :(
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20:38.12KirkburnMikkWoW, btw, I think your skin changes to WoWAce somehow broke it in IE7
20:40.53deltronGagorian: ping
20:40.58CIA-2203pettigrow * r42276 10Violation/ (13 files in 6 dirs): Violation: frFR Added
20:41.28kebinusanantiarc, w.t.f indeed
20:43.04deltronwhy does it not surprise me that it's coming from the gap companies
20:43.54cotangentso glad I have a boy some days
20:44.58Kirkburnlhunath, don't know why that might be - font incompatability?
20:45.17CIA-2203antiarc * r42277 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (NPCModules/TempestKeep/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua Threat-1.0.lua):
20:45.17CIA-22Threat-1.0:
20:45.17CIA-22- Made a fix so that global offsets get reset on a full threat clear.
20:45.17CIA-22- Changed the Kael'thas module so that we can use full raid wipes when appropriate, resulting in accurate de-targeted threat.
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20:47.04lhunathkirkburn: dunno.  not using the fontpack and tried deleting the wtf file
20:47.30kenlyricwell, why should have to wait until their 7 to teach your daughter to be a hooker?
20:47.45Gagoriandeltron: What screenshot were you talking about earlier?
20:48.14lhunathkirkburn: might be worth noting I'm using wine.
20:50.14lhunathclicking Ok in the video settings seems to have the same effect ;x
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20:51.37Kirkburnlhunath, that's possibly it
20:51.56Kirkburn(though I don't know why that could be a problem)
20:52.13lhunathwhat calls does clearfont invoke that can be similar to ones invoked by the video settings?
20:53.26KirkburnNothing really, all it does it font stuff
20:53.58KirkburnI can only assume that could cause problems if the fonts can't be read / are incompatible for some odd reason
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20:55.06deltronGagorian: http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/222/wowscrnshot062907211047dl4.jpg
20:55.13deltronerr not that one
20:55.50deltronhttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1303/wowscrnshot062607221404ek9.jpg
20:55.54deltronGagorian: ^^^
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20:56.41subsonicAnybody know of  good example of creating frames without xml?
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20:57.54deltronheh mjc is getting an iphone
20:57.59cotangentWhat is the S Y G O W E G T L W I s  mod ?
20:58.47deltronwut
20:59.01Antiarc|Workdeltron: How'd Omen hold up on VR?
20:59.07subsonicTo display text, do you always have to use CreateFontString?
20:59.14[Ammo]Antiarc|Work: it worked fine for us wednesday
20:59.30cotangentin the first link with the auctioneer window theres a mod on the left with those letters above small colored circles
20:59.36deltronAntiarc|Work: it worked well, had the tanks up there, even showed the priest that pulled aggro and killed them :)
20:59.43Antiarc|WorkAwesome :D
20:59.44Antiarc|WorkThank you!
20:59.58deltrongranted, I'm the only one that uses Omen
21:00.02Antiarc|WorkHeh
21:00.31deltroncotangent: ahhh that's a chat mod, don't remember which
21:00.46cotangentoh no worries then
21:00.53cotangentSCM does everything I need
21:00.59deltronI don't remember what it is though
21:01.10deltronbut it's for say, guild, o-chat, etc
21:01.11Pheredhelthe addon with the circles is chatbar afaik
21:01.27sag_ich_nichtaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha
21:01.28sag_ich_nichtROFL
21:01.32Kornanyone have problems using guildmap?
21:01.39Pheredhelsag_ich_nicht: ?
21:01.50sag_ich_nichtthe german word for chest(as in, with locks) is truhe
21:01.51sag_ich_nichtnow
21:02.00sag_ich_nichti said "true" in the party chat because of something
21:02.15sag_ich_nichtand someone was like "yeah if there is one we missed it or saw it and couldn't open it"
21:02.30sag_ich_nichtand i was like wtf for about a minute until i understood what he meant
21:02.31sag_ich_nicht>_<
21:02.38Pheredhel^^
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21:02.46subsonicWhat's the other irc channel here that helps with interface devlopment?
21:02.51sag_ich_nicht#wowi-lounge
21:03.06subsonicThanks.  I think I'm too basic for this channel
21:03.23sag_ich_nichtheh
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21:03.36subsonicmy questions aren't getting answered :)
21:03.53subsonicWhich I take as "aww piss off"
21:04.21sag_ich_nichtnah
21:04.24sag_ich_nichtjust too busy
21:04.24sag_ich_nicht:P
21:04.36subsonic=)
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21:09.41Antiarc|Workquestions?
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21:12.34Gagoriandeltron: Well, what does your ES heal per tick on a target if it's not yourself?
21:13.02deltronGagorian: shall find out later, will do it on someone who's not a rogue or lock also :P
21:13.28Gagoriank
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21:19.03Panyebah, still need help with my adds not working after d/l SAL from WAU.... I have started a fresh and reverted before I had SAL, and add's are working
21:20.09durcynPanye: if you have a specific error message, we can help
21:20.27Panyeposted it before, 2 secs
21:21.02Panye!stopthespam\stopthespam.lua.35: attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)
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21:21.43OminousPanye: do exactly this
21:21.57Panyeok
21:21.58hyperChipmunkyou have SAL enabled?
21:21.59Ominousopen WAU, uninstall SAL
21:22.08Ominousre install SAL
21:22.19Panyewhich I have done
21:22.33Ominousthen go file Re-Install All Addons
21:22.36Ominousthen restart wow
21:22.39Ominousa reload ui wont owrk
21:23.04hyperChipmunkput SAL in StopTheSpam's .toc OptDeps
21:23.13Ominousalso, you can check by opening addons and seeing if you have Ace2, DewdropLib etc
21:23.19Ominousnot needed HC
21:23.29Panyehmm do I not update without externals?
21:23.33Ominousi use STS with un emdeded
21:23.42OminousPanye, it will reinstall them all without externals
21:23.43hyperChipmunkit may be loading first on his comp
21:24.00Ominousnot if the opt deps are set to Ace2 which they are
21:24.47durcynPanye: verify you havea n AddOns\Ace2 directory
21:24.52durcynhave an, rather
21:24.53CIA-2203fin * r42278 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua:
21:24.53CIA-22Prat: AltNames: Prat: AltNames: couplafixes for Waterfall drop down which
21:24.53CIA-22contain a table with a key of 'false' (valid, but not for Waterfall tch); and
21:24.53CIA-22importing from Guild Greet (not sure how that ever worked, jesus I'm high right
21:24.53CIA-22now)
21:25.10hyperChipmunkbut he installed SAL, not Ace2
21:25.26Panyeok done that, and have checked some random addon folders.. they still have libs in them :/
21:25.48Ominousare there libs in those folders thought? or are they empty
21:25.59OminousPanye: do you have an addon called Ace2
21:26.29OminousFin: !!!!!!
21:26.36Panyeyes
21:26.52OminousPanye: yes to which
21:27.00PanyeI have Ace2
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21:27.21durcynand does it have a proper toc and subdirectories?
21:27.29OminousPanye: is there folders inside libs?
21:27.35Ominousin the addons which still have it
21:29.06OminousPanye: btw close wow, then reopen and it will work
21:29.22Panyeyes I seem to have duplicate libs in the addon folder which are already with in wow's nterface/addons folder
21:29.22OminousPanye: providing Ace2 (Lib: Ace2 in addons list) is enabled
21:31.30Panyeeg: candybar appears in both the main addon folder and ORA2, is this correct?
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21:32.11OminousPanye: Have you done the reinsall all addons part
21:32.50durcynturn on delete-before-extracting before you do a reinstall-all if you're converting from embeds to un-embedded
21:33.08durcynthat sentence needs more dashes
21:33.10Ominousdurcyn; you dont need that
21:33.21Ominousdurcyn: the reinstall thing does that i just checked
21:34.13durcynoh. guess i should keep up with new WAU versions.
21:34.23durcynor not, based on this.
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21:35.07kergoth`workmjc: http://utsl.gen.nz/talks/git-svn/intro.html is nifty
21:36.57Panyereinstalled all addon's and still dupilcate libs appearing in Bigwigs/Cart/ORA2 which appear in the main folder, is this the way it should be?
21:38.43durcynPanye: you must install !!!StandaloneLibraries first for WAU1.x to run in un-embedded mode
21:38.52Arrowmasterwhat version of WAU do you have
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21:39.36inphOminous, I'm seeing the class timer bars disappearing and reappearing - was there a fix for that?
21:39.46Ominousimph: ?
21:39.49PanyeI have version 1.9.18.412
21:40.53PanyeDurcyn: I did install !!!SAL first
21:41.06OminousPanye, ok i am about to do it from scratch
21:41.13inphOminous, the bars disappear and reappear
21:41.25Ominousinph, when:? settings? rev?
21:41.32Panyewell I have all my add in folder ofc
21:41.42inphlatest rev
21:42.06inphsettings - allinone on target (pet player target)
21:42.11Panyerun WAU, select SAL, install... then reload WAU and reinstall all addons
21:42.13abyssichateckknight: are you around?
21:42.16Ominousis it just those that dissepear?
21:42.28inphplayer/sticky/focus disabled
21:42.38inphall the bars disappear
21:42.41Funkeh`ckknight: objets don't seem to be affected by the fade module
21:42.56inphfor example i'll cheap shot something and the bars will vanish before cheapshot runs out
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21:44.17hypetechand the award for creative commit note of the day goes to fin
21:44.33hypetech"and importing from Guild Greet (not sure how that ever worked, jesus I'm high right now)"
21:45.22Ominousinph: client?
21:46.30Ominousinph: you have the version with the login error right?
21:46.48inph[2007/06/29 21:04:17-511-x1]: ClassTimer\locales\zhCN.lua:83: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 5) near '['
21:46.58inphbut it was happening before that
21:47.04Ominouswhat client
21:47.07inphmaybe last 4 days or so
21:47.10inphusing WUA to update
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21:47.23inphenglish client
21:47.24Ominousinph: tell me what god damn client you are on
21:47.25CIA-2203fin * r42279 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: AltNames: nutherfix cos I can't have false values as table keys without Waterfall crying like a baby
21:47.26Matt_Millerare there any devs on?
21:47.27Ominousthank you
21:47.37Matt_Millerwowace devs
21:48.04Ominouserm we all are ... or pretty much unles you mean Ace2
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21:48.47FinOminous: ???????
21:48.54FinI'm going to bed soon
21:48.54hypetechheh
21:48.59OminousFin: just saying hi and same
21:49.07Finoh, good good :) hello :)
21:49.10FinI'm tired
21:49.16Finthis "work" business doesn't agree with me
21:49.20Ominousrofl
21:49.35Finright, night then
21:49.49hypetech~seen fin
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21:56.26hyperChipmunkkergoth`work: if there's one thing I'm coming away with from that article, it's the "Tk doesn't have to look butt ugly" link
21:56.33vhaarrMatt_Miller: Just ask.
21:57.17hyperChipmunkI was always pretty convinced that Tk was required to look butt ugly
21:57.55kergoth`workhahah, i was pretty convinced of that too
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21:58.26CIA-2203antiarc * r42280 10Omen/ (OmenDisplay.lua OmenThreatBar.lua): Omen: Drycoded changes to the pullout bars to hopefully resolve texture overlap and selection issues. Also drycoded ability to pull out the aggro bar for a tank-following pullout bar. All untested for now.
21:59.24Panyeok, still confused.. whats the point of downloading SAL if there's duplicate lib's within seperate addon's themselves?
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22:00.05GagorianPanye: There won't be if you download the no-externals versions
22:01.15Panyewell everytime I update add's with the option install/update without externals my UI/add's break
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22:04.11inphOminous: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6052.msg114721#msg114721
22:04.23inphhe describes the same thing i'm seeing (also says he fixed it himself)
22:04.45Ominousthat means its your end not mine
22:06.23GagorianPanye: Your standalone libs are still inproperly installed.
22:06.45GagorianEither WAU messes up the package or then you're doing something wrong.
22:07.00Panyeim following instructions giving to me here
22:07.27inphbottom of that page post by Jayblah also describing same problem
22:07.36Funkeh`Panye: just click reinstall all addons
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22:08.11Ominousinph: its something on your end, ask the person who fixed it
22:08.14PanyeI have many times... and still getting duplicate lib's folder within addon's and the wow main addon folder
22:08.22CIA-2203antiarc * r42281 10Omen/OmenThreatBar.lua: Omen: Optimizations to pullout bar script handlers; bumped up the font sizes a bit moved the bar label.
22:08.35GagorianFunkeh`: His SAL aren't installed properly cause first addon can't find AceLibrary with no-ext versions
22:08.49Funkeh`so do exactly what i said
22:09.13PanyeFunkeh: I have done
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22:09.21Funkeh`you clearly have not
22:09.36Funkeh`if you have installed SAL, you reboot WAU, hti reinstall all addons, done
22:09.48Funkeh`if it doesn't work you didn't follow the steps
22:10.11Panyeoh I havent rebooted WAU, just did that after install SAL
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22:15.05Panyehmmm ok rebooted and reinstalled addon's still seeing duplicate libs within add's... eg: Bigwigs has Babbleboss/Babblezone, which also appear in the main folder :(
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22:15.41Sarozvhaarr, idea: Like you can alt-click the bar to display anchor, how about shift-click to put the current text and time out in chat
22:16.36Funkeh`Panye: open preferences and untick default mode wiht externals
22:16.44Funkeh`then do reinsyall again
22:16.54Funkeh`if everything brakes you clearly didn't install sal properly
22:17.09vhaarrSaroz: :P
22:17.12CIA-2203antiarc * r42282 10Omen/ (OmenThreatBar.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: More threat bar changes/polishing/whatever
22:17.46PanyeI'm using WAU to install SAL, not doing anything other than that
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22:18.17ccKepwhat does the update log say? (ctrl+f7 I believe)
22:18.41Panyecckep: was that to me?
22:18.46ccKepyeah
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22:19.03Sarozgo for it vhaarr :p
22:19.09deltronGagorian: ping
22:19.17vhaarrSaroz: give patch plx
22:19.21Panyeanything particalur im lookin for?
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22:19.33Sarozvhaarr, will look into it
22:19.39ccKepwell, what's the 1st line saying, and any update line (for example the bigwigs one)
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22:20.18PanyeBigWigs - Updated to rev WITH Externals 42272
22:20.19ccKep(didn't read the whole conversation, but it's about externals isn't it?)
22:20.30ccKepyeah, and you want it WITHOUT, am I right?
22:20.57Panyeyeah but what im saying is when I install/update without... all addon's brake
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22:21.01ccKeppress F8, on the left side uncheck the second box
22:21.13ccKepyou have standalonelibraries installed?
22:21.20ccKephow exactly do they break? errors?
22:21.43Panyeaddon's dont seem to load, as in missing libs
22:21.57Antiarc|WorkCheck logs/FrameXML/log
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22:22.29ccKepin your loading screen -> addon screen, is there any message about missing dependencies?
22:23.37ccKepAntiarc|Work: I pm'ed you on Antiarc a while ago, don't know if I was allowed to.. had some questions regarding threat-1.0/omen (strange behaviour and such)...
22:24.02Panyeshould I reinstall add's with no externals selected?
22:24.19Antiarc|WorkHeh, yeah, that's my home nick though :)
22:24.23ccKepyou should install !!!StandAloneLibraries and all other addons without externals
22:24.26Antiarc|WorkWhat's up?
22:24.28ccKepmay I pm you?
22:24.32Antiarc|WorkOf course!
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22:27.56hypetechanybody know of a channel on any server somewhere that is devoted to mage numbers and theorycrafting and stuff? like a #magenerds or something heh
22:29.19Funkeh`Panye: i told you, you clearly don't have !!!StandaloneLibraries installed
22:29.42Funkeh`so its not working ebcaue you didn't follow the steps properly
22:30.19ccKepI switched from with externals to without externals lately, and it worked flawlessly.. don't know why it should'nt
22:30.29Funkeh`indeed
22:30.33SarozAntiarc, the display is a bit fucked atm :p
22:30.36kenlyricyou don't still need SAL, do you?
22:30.41Funkeh`its 3 steps, install it, reboot WAU, resintall all addons, done
22:30.46Funkeh`i don't see why its hard
22:30.49hypetechSaroz: yes it is
22:30.50hypetechlol
22:30.51Antiarc|WorkSaroz: Hehe, not surprised, I'm drycoding :P
22:30.52kenlyricjust turn on that new happy option.
22:30.53Panyeok, well that helps me greatly... I have all these extra libs, which I gather are from SAL... eg: Babbleboss, Babblezone... SpecialEvent-Aura etc
22:30.54Antiarc|WorkWhat's wrong with it?
22:31.13hypetechAntiarc: looks like the top half of the box moved under the bottom half
22:31.15Antiarc|WorkScreenshots are preferred.
22:31.16durcynthose aren't extra.  those are unpacked LOD modules
22:31.20kenlyricI like how metrognome is somehow still required by something.
22:31.20Antiarc|WorkHrm.
22:31.21hypetechbox = oblique bubble
22:31.30Antiarc|WorkOkay, only when empty, right?
22:31.34durcynkenlyric: only thing i'm aware of is Automaton
22:31.40Funkeh`Panye: if i were you i would delete everything in your addons folder and start from scratch
22:31.48Panyeoh ok...
22:31.57kenlyricdurcyn: that's probably it.
22:32.23hypetechAntiarc|Work: no. it's not right when aggro gets in it either
22:32.32durcynkenlyric: most of which can be replaced by Minimalist, btw
22:32.33Antiarc|WorkOh, well that's not good.
22:32.37Antiarc|WorkCan you take a screen for me?
22:32.44hypetechalready did
22:32.44hypetech:p
22:32.46hypetechuploading now
22:32.50Antiarc|WorkWoots.
22:34.08hypetechhttp://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/?action=view&current=WoWScrnShot_062907_183145.jpg and http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/?action=view&current=WoWScrnShot_062907_183132.jpg
22:34.12hypetechfor in and out of combat
22:34.42Antiarc|WorkOh, okay, I know what the problem is.
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22:36.19CIA-2203antiarc * r42283 10Omen/ (OmenDisplay.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Fixed a display problem with Show Column Headings turned off.
22:36.26Antiarc|WorkThat should do it.
22:37.10Panyeok nothing in addon folder, can I copy all my addon I had backup into it?
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22:38.20hypetechPanye: doesn't that defeat the purpose?
22:38.59weabautomaton doesn't use metrognome.
22:39.16sag_ich_nichtAntiarc nice i'll try it out in a moment
22:39.48sag_ich_nichtwhat's the propagation time between SVN commit and fileserver update?
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22:40.37Antiarc|WorkBetween 1 and 20 minutes.
22:40.39durcynfiles script runs every 20 mintues
22:40.48Antiarc|WorkUsually on the hour/20 past/40 past
22:40.57Antiarc|WorkSo it should be doing a new generation cycle...now.
22:41.14subsonicIn General, how do you find methods for each library, like to find out what it can do?
22:41.22hypetechanybody else still using BT3? or has everybody and their grandmother moved to Bongos?
22:41.28Antiarc|WorkDepends on the library. If it's a Wowace lib, there's good doc on the wiki
22:41.34Antiarc|WorkOtherwise, you have to read the source
22:41.37weabhypetech: i use bt3
22:41.51subsonicAntiarc: thanks again
22:41.51ccKep<< using BT3
22:42.00Antiarc|Worksubsonic: Have a particular library in mind?
22:42.19subsonicQuixote - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Quixote-1.0
22:42.26hypetechanybody know of advantages to bongos over bt3?
22:42.29Antiarc|WorkThere's the doc :)
22:42.54ccKepnever used bongos, sry
22:43.28subsonicAntiarc: The mod I'm looking at updating  is using a function that's not in the doc
22:43.44weabbongos lets you move the cast bar if i remember right
22:43.49dylanmhypetech: I'm a big fan of its binding interface... it's really easy to set up.
22:44.10weabwhich is helpful
22:44.38weabbut i haven't used it in ages, and it was mostly just to see what it was like.
22:44.39dylanmweab: Yeah, it has its own styled cast bar that you can move around and dock with the Bongos frames.
22:45.59Antiarc|Worksubsonic: Then you'll have to trawl through the code, unfortunately.
22:46.24subsonicAntiarc: yeah  Is it usually the devloper that updates their own wiki?
22:48.06Antiarc|WorkGenerally, but anyone can, so if you want to write doc on other Quixote methods, it'd be welcome :)
22:48.45Andunehypetech:  as dylanm is saying, the way it's windows have 'affinity' for each other and stack and move so nicely is godly when it comes to setting it up.
22:49.01subsonicAntiarc: What's an easy way to look at variables?  Does Bug Sack have some sort of output once can use?
22:49.02AnduneBT3 may have that these days, but back when I was comparing the two, it didn't, and so bongos won.
22:49.24rubikhypetech: maybe i'm the exception but i recently moved from Bongos to BT3..
22:49.26AnduneI don't use the castbar thing, I have it disabled.  I use Quartz.  So can't help ya there.
22:50.13dylanmAndune: BT3 has docking now, I believe.
22:50.54Andunedylanm:  good to know.  If Bongos ever craps out on me, I may take a look at BT3 again, then  :)
22:51.08Antiarc|Worksubsonic: If you want to see a literal variable, you can just /dump variablename
22:51.14Antiarc|WorkThat spits it out to the chatlog.
22:51.18subsonicthanks
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22:52.25subsonicHmm, from the console?  I get nil.  The variable I want to see is local in a function
22:54.25Antiarc|WorkOh, you can't get access to it then. You'll have to edit the code to spit it out.
22:54.35Antiarc|Work<PROTECTED>
22:54.52subsonicAntiarc: Yeah, that's was I was looking for
22:54.53Antiarc|WorkThat'll spit it out to the console for you
22:55.14Antiarc|WorkThat assumes you have AceConsole installed, of course, but you should if you have BugSack. I think.
22:55.27subsonicyeah, I do
22:55.27rubikoh wow.. cowtip messes with the look of ALL tooltips? (i just installed it to play with it).. hmm.. dunno if i like my gear item tooltips and all those other things messed with..
22:55.43rubikjust wanted unit tooltips customized
22:56.01subsonicWhen you do "return var1, var2" is it adding those?  
22:56.16Antiarc|WorkNo, Lua can return multiple values from a function
22:56.30Antiarc|WorkSo for that function (let's say it's foo), you'd say something like local a, b = foo()
22:56.40Antiarc|WorkThen a contains the value of var1, and b contains the value of var2
22:57.04ccKepfunction foo() return 1, 2 end -> local a,b = foo(); -> a = 1 & b = 2
22:57.11ccKepdoh @ ;
22:57.41subsonicoh strange
22:57.46AndunehyperChipmunk:  are you there?
22:58.03ccKephandy, wished more programming languages were capable of this ^.^
22:59.14Andunerubik:  I use TinyTip for that.
22:59.38subsonicThat's good to know.  And cool.  It's like using list($val1, $val2) = $array("1", "2"); a little bit in php
23:00.10dylanmccKep: A lot of the popular scripting languages can do that. Python and Ruby do, I believe.
23:00.10Antiarc|WorkSimilar, yeah
23:00.14Antiarc|Work<3 ruby
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23:00.24subsonicI only know php
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23:00.46dylanmAntiarc: Yeah. If they ever get that new runtime going and make the thing faster I'll be overjoyed.
23:00.57Antiarc|WorkYessir. 2.0 can't come fast enough.
23:01.00ccKepdylanm: well, never got to play around with these
23:01.11Antiarc|WorkI love the Rails framework and the Ruby language, but they're just so damn slow.
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23:01.39dylanmccKep: Well, whenever you get some free time you should see what life is like on the Ruby side.
23:01.39ccKepI'm more the C(++), java guy.. and the scripting languages of course (php, lua, etc.)
23:01.47subsonicYay!  I'm actually Displaying something
23:01.55Antiarc|WorkI keep wanting to write Lua like I'd write ruby.
23:02.46Antiarc|Work<PROTECTED>
23:02.53Antiarc|WorkSee, if I could do that, I would be very <3 <3 <3
23:02.53hyperChipmunkAndune: what can i do for ya?
23:03.08Antiarc|Work(That's bastardized ruby/lua, I know)
23:03.39AndunehyperChipmunk:  just receive some praise.  The Baggins-like interface on Bulkmail2 is friggen awesome.  I love it!  :)
23:03.58hyperChipmunk>8D
23:04.12Funkeh`lol
23:04.13hyperChipmunkgreat to hear; I tried to keep it simpler than baggins
23:04.22Funkeh`hyperChipmunk doing something good thats rare ;/
23:04.26hyperChipmunkyea it is
23:04.27AnduneI always knew what BulkMail could do for me, but was too lazy to set it all up.  Now, it's conformed to my laziness, and I see what I've been missing all along  :P
23:04.31AnduinLotharI assume oyu mean the interface itself and not similar configurations :
23:04.33AnduinLothar:P
23:04.44hyperChipmunkonly took me 2 years!
23:05.10hyperChipmunkAnduinLothar: it's a heck of a lot more simple than baggins
23:05.33AnduneThe Inbox is very nice too, thanks for the efforts hyper.  It kicks ass.
23:05.39hyperChipmunk>8D
23:05.44TainI just want a mail addon that actually does, "Collect all items/money" again.
23:05.57hyperChipmunkBMI does that
23:06.23sag_ich_nicht~whalestab AnduinLothar
23:06.23purlACTION stabs AnduinLothar with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
23:06.24Anduneyes it does.  <3
23:06.32AnduinLothar~whaleparry
23:06.39AnduinLothar~whaleparry sag_ich_nicht
23:06.39purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry sag_ich_nicht's attacks.
23:06.43aen`ckknight: ping
23:06.45TainMy BMI is big enough.
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23:07.05AnduinLotharBetter than MailTo?
23:07.09aen`\estimatedheals.lua:218: attempt ti index field 'healthBar' nil
23:07.29hyperChipmunkTain: why does visor2 do different things with Ace enabled or disabled?
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23:07.46hyperChipmunkI have to enable Ace to get my stuff hidden
23:07.50TainDunno hC, not involved with it at all.
23:08.01hyperChipmunkwell screw you then
23:08.34AnduneaunduinLother:  I think so.  Best mail addon I've seen yet.
23:09.25CIA-2203nargiddley * r42284 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Fix PTSet rule editing
23:09.28TainI've never even looked at the code.
23:09.47subsonicHow do you set the frame's height in relation to the content?
23:09.54hyperChipmunkyea I just wanted to kick you in the balls
23:10.04subsoniccontent = text
23:10.31TainI have balls of steel.  Or at least copper.
23:10.54hyperChipmunki have steel-toe boots
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23:12.14hyperChipmunkna-HA!
23:13.28sag_ich_nichtAntiarc you seem to have commited the wrong folder to the SVN
23:13.40TainI keep a Stoneshield potion in my pants.
23:14.12sag_ich_nichtthe file on the server reports itself as 42283 but ingame still says 42254, i doublechecked to make sure :P
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23:15.04sag_ich_nichtlocal MINOR_VERSION = tonumber(("$Revision: 42254 $"):match("%d+"))
23:15.06inphOminous: i think i've narrowed it down to when player and target are both selected for allinone
23:15.06sag_ich_nichtyupp
23:15.14sag_ich_nichtbad AnduinLothar
23:15.15sag_ich_nichterm
23:15.25sag_ich_nichtbad Antiarc
23:15.26sag_ich_nichtD:
23:15.30Antiarc|WorkWait, what?
23:15.59sag_ich_nichtyou. uploaded. the. wrong. files. to. the. SVN.
23:15.59Antiarc|Work$Revision: 42254 $ should be automatically incremented by SVN.
23:16.06sag_ich_nichtwell it wasn't.
23:16.09Antiarc|Work*shrug*
23:16.13Antiarc|WorkMaybe the hook is broken.
23:16.17sag_ich_nichtmaybe
23:16.24sag_ich_nichtalso the bug is still in there
23:16.31hypetechwhat's the difference between download mods with externals and without?
23:16.35sag_ich_nichtso, must have been a bad upload
23:16.49Antiarc|WorkMaybe you didn't get it updated properly or something?
23:16.51Antiarc|Work*shrug*
23:16.53aen`hypetech: embedded libraries or not
23:16.57Antiarc|WorkI'm going home in 15 minutes so I can check it.
23:17.16CIA-2203damjau * r42285 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc): NextStep: fix and add data
23:17.17hypetechaen`: why does it matter? what happens if you use one opposed to the other?
23:17.22sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: want a screenshot of the WoWAceUpdater showing I have the latest version and a fraps capture showing me close WoW, then start it? :P
23:17.47aen`hypetech: external libs allow for better mem usage readings
23:18.26hypetechaen`: so downloading WITH externals is the recommended way?
23:18.30sag_ich_nichtand less loading time.
23:19.01aen`yes but u need to make sure u have all the externals installed
23:19.10Antiarc|WorkWith externals is less of a headache, but can increase bootup time.
23:19.11sag_ich_nichtaen`
23:19.21sag_ich_nichtthat'd be without externals what you are talking about
23:19.29sag_ich_nichtwith externals you don't have to worry about deps
23:19.32sag_ich_nichtbecause they are embedded
23:19.36sag_ich_nicht(mostly)
23:21.04sag_ich_nichthttp://ace.pastey.net/70081-2hdp
23:21.06sag_ich_nichtthere Antiarc
23:21.21sag_ich_nichti just reinstalled. still old revision in the folder. believe me now? :P
23:21.35Antiarc|WorkHuh.
23:21.50hypetechso if I do without externals, and then just make sure the libs are installed on their own, I'll get faster loading time? I like that. Any downside?
23:21.53Antiarc|WorkOooh.
23:22.07sag_ich_nichtyou. should. redo. your. commit.
23:22.10sag_ich_nichtit was broken.
23:22.20hypetechya Antiarc, it's still fubar
23:22.49sag_ich_nicht[01:21] <hypetech> so if I do without externals, and then just make sure the libs are installed on their own, I'll get faster loading time? I like that. Any downside? <--not really.
23:22.54Antiarc|WorkIs that the Omen or Threat revision you're reporting?
23:22.56hypetechawesome
23:23.09sag_ich_nichtAntiarc Omen. lemme check if the threat commit was broken too
23:23.17aen`theres a way to use wau to get all the libraries u need
23:23.19aen`i forget how tho
23:23.31Antiarc|Workhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/Omen.lua looks right to me.
23:23.37hypetechomen 422543
23:23.41hypetech42254*
23:23.43hypetechis what I have
23:23.46sag_ich_nichtthreat commit was okay
23:24.03sag_ich_nichtthen the copy script broke something
23:24.08Antiarc|WorkIt may have, yeah
23:24.11hypetechaen`: so dependencies are not the same as the embedded libs right?
23:24.28Antiarc|WorkKinda sorta.
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23:25.40sag_ich_nichtAntiarc just re-do the commit and it will probably work
23:25.41sag_ich_nicht>.>
23:25.47KrattzAntiarc|Work, any word on if you will implement the "dont minimize" crap that ktm has?
23:26.17Antiarc|WorkKrattz: I'm thinking about how to do it, but it's gonna be rough to do, since individual bars can have their own arbitrary height
23:26.44Krattzah right.. damn this customizability! :)
23:26.51Antiarc|WorkHeheh, indeed.
23:27.11Antiarc|WorkI can add a toggle to just force it to a specific height, but that'll risk bars overrunning the window if you set it wrong.
23:27.14Moltarainany addon to calculate tank points in wowace?
23:27.38HjalteMoltarain, TankPoints?
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23:28.17Antiarc|WorkTank points are a metric for measuring a tank's gear, for the most part.
23:28.34ccKepwell... just entered "tank" in the wowaceupdater and it gave me: TankPoints.. cheer ^.^
23:28.40ccKep( http://files.wowace.com/TankPoints/ )
23:29.19hyperChipmunk"Does tank live through encounter?"  Yes = lots of tank points, No = no tank points
23:29.43starlonNo = slap the healer imo
23:29.48Antiarc|WorkOr possibly both!
23:29.53ccKepnah
23:30.11ccKepit's the tanks responsibility to live through all damage ;)
23:30.23ccKephealers are always perfect
23:30.24Antiarc|WorkAll they have to do is spam shield wall right?
23:31.07ccKepchugg healing potions imho
23:31.22aen`hypetech:  no, but someone can explain better how to uninstall with wau and update usin the non embedded libs
23:31.28Krattzyea spam that nasty 30min cooldown spell :)
23:31.35Antiarc|WorkKrattz: Exactly!
23:31.43Antiarc|WorkIf a tank dies it's because he didn't spam shield wall.
23:31.49Antiarc|Work(never the healers' fault)
23:31.49Krattzindeed¨
23:32.00Antiarc|WorkI'm being highly facetious :D
23:32.06AnduinLotharonly thing tank points is really useful for is for single gear piece replacements. when t comes to sidegrades or whether you need more avoidance or mitigation or agro power... you need to know your stuff.
23:32.24hyperChipmunknuh uh
23:32.27HjalteIs there any way I can gain 9 HH rep points, without going to Shattered Halls or doing any HH quests at lvl 70?
23:32.31kebinusanThe omen display looks kinda wonky: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2055/wowscrnshot062907193041kn9.jpg
23:32.44Antiarc|WorkHeheh, yup
23:32.45Antiarc|WorkI broke it
23:32.47Krattzi usually blame my blockvalue if i die.. "damn guys.. 606blockvalue untrinketed wasent enough it seems.. time to get some more"
23:32.49Antiarc|WorkGonna fix it in a bit
23:32.49hyperChipmunkblind devotion to an addon > knowledge of class
23:32.53AnduinLotharplus tank points has a huge display with lots of numbers that really aren't that useful unless you already are an expert.
23:33.19AnduinLotharonly thing most people look at is the sumamry #
23:33.35Corussmust. be. uncrushable. ^^
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23:33.50AnduinLotharand uncrittable
23:33.56Corussthat's the key thing to see from any tank pt calc
23:33.58AnduinLotharand unhittable
23:34.04Antiarc|WorkI was just going to say that.
23:34.07sbuHjalte: pvp quest
23:34.09AnduinLotharand be able to hold agro...
23:34.12starlonI'm fury. I just try to kill it before it kills me.
23:34.20Antiarc|WorkI heard that orcs are the best main tanks
23:34.26Antiarc|WorkBecause if they /dance, the mob can't touch this.
23:34.29AnduinLotharand be have enough stam to take large blows
23:34.34Corussunless you're a pally tank, then you need block chance to be super high for threat
23:34.47Krattz:)))
23:34.53AnduinLotharand be able to avoid subsequent hits so your healers have enough time to cast their 3s
23:35.19Krattzi only use tp so i can see my blockvalue easy :)
23:35.20Corussgotta balance avoidance with threat gen
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23:35.26Killmorehttp://img45.imageshack.us/img45/3610/32323232pj4.jpg
23:35.31Killmoresexy Omen :p
23:35.38Antiarc|Workhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/skullofguldan.jpg :O
23:35.40Krattzblizzard relly should add that to the defensive  tab imo
23:35.59Antiarc|WorkWhose screen is that?
23:36.04BibiWTF ANTIARC.
23:36.13Bibihighlighting me while I'm playing QWERTY Warriors :(
23:36.19KillmoreAntiarc: friend in my guild :P
23:36.24Bibihttp://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/385784 !
23:36.43Antiarc|WorkHey guys I neard about this site called mmo-champion
23:36.46Antiarc|Workit's at mmo-champion.com
23:36.51Antiarc|Work(mmo-champion)
23:37.41sag_ich_nicht[01:35] <Antiarc|Work> http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/skullofguldan.jpg :O <--oh you've got to be kidding me
23:37.59kenlyricisn't that like the most uber artifact in all of wow?
23:38.05kenlyricerrr, warcraft
23:38.09sag_ich_nichtwell
23:38.10sag_ich_nichtnot most
23:38.13sag_ich_nichtbut pretty close
23:38.15Antiarc|WorkIt's up there.
23:38.16kenlyricI mean, didn't it do insane things?
23:38.20sag_ich_nichtIllidan was fucking CONSUMED by the skull and turned into a demon
23:38.22sag_ich_nichtso yeah it did
23:38.23Antiarc|WorkLike turn Illidan into a demon? Yeah.
23:38.27kenlyricclearly, shadow priest trinket.
23:38.36sag_ich_nichtbitch no
23:38.41sag_ich_nichtclearly a hunter trinket
23:38.42Antiarc|WorkNeed moar haste for DOTs.
23:38.45kenlyrichit, haste, and spell damage? can't be for anyone else.
23:38.52kenlyricthat's why it's not a warlock trinket.
23:38.58kenlyricmind flay benefits from haste :)
23:39.03sag_ich_nichtpfff
23:39.06sag_ich_nichthunter trinket
23:39.06Antiarc|WorkI'd say mage trinket
23:39.14BibiAntiarc|Work : Ever heard about http://armory.mmo-champion.com ?
23:39.14sag_ich_nichtyou just THINK it's a shadow priest trinket
23:39.17Acolarno yellow text. pffft.
23:39.18kenlyricit's got no crit so it's not a shammy or mage trinket. So, priest only.
23:39.19Bibibut it's not updated anymore
23:39.23Bibibecause the guy who did it is SLACKING
23:39.30durcynwarlock trinket btw
23:39.33Antiarc|WorkBibi: Man, what a loser.
23:39.33durcynduh
23:39.37durcyngul'dan was a warlock
23:39.39sag_ich_nichtbut it's an hunter trinket
23:39.44Antiarc|WorkThat guy should be kicked out of the Cool Kids Club or something
23:39.47Bibidurcyn : labeled the news as "new mage trinket" first
23:39.48sag_ich_nichtwhen a hunter equips it
23:39.49kenlyricdurcyn: then it either needs crit, or needs to drop the haste.
23:39.51Bibiyou can't imagine how many insults I got
23:39.53sag_ich_nichtyou unlock the hidden event
23:40.02sag_ich_nichtand it turns the hunter into a demon hunter
23:40.05sag_ich_nichtlike illidan
23:40.07Antiarc|WorkBibi: Next time you should label it as "New (dis)enchanter trinket"
23:40.17durcynkenlyric: wtf?
23:40.41kenlyricwarlocks, if they're affliction don't need the haste, and if they're destruction they need the crit.
23:40.47kenlyricso, gtfo, priest trinket.
23:41.00kenlyrici'm just bitter because I still have a power mushroom.
23:41.03ccKepspam dots, use trinket, spam bolts, spam dots ;)
23:41.19CIA-2203sayclub * r42286 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update
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23:41.56KarlThePagandmg trinket, dots, skull, flay flay flay flay
23:42.48Antiarc|WorkSinister Strike, Sinister Strike, Sinister Strike, Slice and Dice, Disenchant, Sinister Strike, Sinister Strike...
23:43.05sag_ich_nichtgreat
23:43.27sag_ich_nichtnow sayclub will have to re-add the trans after you fix the upload Antiarc :P
23:44.01Antiarc|WorkEh? localization_enUS.lua matches my working copy.
23:45.02Antiarc|WorkI'm going home. See ya'll later.
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23:45.17sag_ich_nichtmhm, okay.
23:46.50hyperChipmunkBibi: that map is indeed from TFT
23:47.45*** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-12-137.range86-130.btcentralplus.com)
23:50.18BibihyperChipmunk : yeah, I know, but didn't have the time to update news lately
23:50.23BibiI had a lot of unscheduled work
23:50.36BibiQwerty warriors on newgrounds ,addictinggames.com updated with new games as well
23:50.44Bibi:(
23:51.58Bibiand mythbusters just started on discovery channel, bah.
23:52.32art3miskenlyric: talking about that kara trinket?
23:52.53kenlyricno, the new illidan trinket.
23:52.56art3misahh
23:53.07art3misi love that kara trinket that procs off spell crits
23:53.08kenlyrici'd settle for the karazhan trinket.
23:53.18kenlyricpower mushroom = sad
23:53.19art3mismf crits like a mofo ;P
23:54.07art3misi got my epic kara ring and shadoweave chest last night
23:54.21art3misall i need is 11 +9dam stones ;P
23:54.26art3misand i break 1k +spell
23:54.37kenlyricwhat crits?
23:54.41art3mismindflay
23:54.45kenlyric?
23:54.55art3miswith the kara trinket
23:55.06kenlyricwhat hax is this?
23:55.41sag_ich_nichtlol
23:55.42sag_ich_nichtdaze explained
23:55.43sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115042266&sid=1
23:56.38kenlyricI'm not sure I know which trinket you're talking about.
23:56.56art3misthe lightning capacitor
23:56.59art3misthats the item
23:57.23art3misdoes 600-800 bonus damage after 3 spell crits
23:57.54kenlyricbut mind flay doesn't crit.
23:58.38art3misoh wait thats right
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23:58.50art3miskept thinking it still crit just ve didnt

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