| 00:00.06 | NeoTron | druids are, overall, rathe easy to spec in |
| 00:00.15 | NeoTron | the hardest / most variation probably being boomkin |
| 00:00.15 | Cryect | pretty much |
| 00:00.24 | snirks | affliction lets you solo elementals in lady vashj fight efficiently |
| 00:00.24 | kenlyric | not for a priest it's not. There are many alternatives in our the craptastic holy tree. |
| 00:00.30 | NeoTron | and hybrid / pvp builds possibly |
| 00:00.33 | Cryect | There is some variation if you want to split between Resto & Balance but thats about it |
| 00:00.36 | snirks | 4 dots and forget it coz u know it'll die |
| 00:00.40 | KarlThePagan | holy tree priest suckkkksssss |
| 00:00.52 | KarlThePagan | disc tree is almost worse |
| 00:00.54 | NeoTron | snirks: something to consider |
| 00:01.07 | kenlyric | together they form something of a useful build :) |
| 00:01.19 | KarlThePagan | just barely :) |
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| 00:01.23 | kenlyric | I still am continuing my petition to make Arcane Int a 21 point arcane tree talent. |
| 00:01.32 | NeoTron | main issue against affliction now is that all the locks are specced almost the same (and that's a lot of debuffs on a mob) and because my gear is destro geared atm |
| 00:01.47 | NeoTron | still interested in getting better gear to try out a firelock spec |
| 00:01.48 | snirks | well in a guild its all about cooperation and communication |
| 00:01.53 | NeoTron | or rather, firelock spell rotation |
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| 00:02.02 | NeoTron | with gear comparable to my shadow dmg gear |
| 00:02.40 | snirks | nymbia is here to lay down the law on villains |
| 00:02.40 | NeoTron | how much hp do the elementals have? |
| 00:02.40 | snirks | 7-9k or so i think |
| 00:02.40 | snirks | not 100% sure |
| 00:02.41 | snirks | i just tank stuff |
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| 00:02.58 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 00:03.02 | NeoTron | besides |
| 00:03.11 | NeoTron | you got to love 8500 SB crits |
| 00:03.23 | NeoTron | until you get a few in a row early on the mob and it comes to eat you |
| 00:03.44 | CIA-22 | 03malkom * r41951 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2 : Added frFR translation for "Imp" |
| 00:05.46 | snirks | what is the french translation for Imp? |
| 00:05.51 | snirks | L'eump? |
| 00:07.01 | Chompers | Le Imp |
| 00:07.03 | Chompers | ;) |
| 00:07.31 | trh_ | Diablotin ;) |
| 00:07.43 | NeoTron | out of curiosity how mobile are later fights in SSC and TK? |
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| 00:07.52 | NeoTron | like beyond moragrim/void reaver |
| 00:08.10 | vhaarr | VR is very mobile if you're not melee |
| 00:08.11 | trh_ | void reaver is pretty static.. like broodlord in bwl |
| 00:08.16 | NeoTron | well I know VR |
| 00:08.17 | vhaarr | morogrim isn't mobile |
| 00:08.21 | NeoTron | I meant beyond them |
| 00:08.46 | NeoTron | like al'ar, solarian, leotheras (should be rather static), fathomlord etc |
| 00:09.12 | NeoTron | mobile might be the wrong word - non-dps time perhaps |
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| 00:09.22 | NeoTron | like gruul, magtherid if you're a clicker etc |
| 00:09.36 | NightHawkAtWork | clicker? I hardly know her... |
| 00:09.43 | Wobin | >< |
| 00:09.45 | vhaarr | well you have to watch your dps during leotheras' WW |
| 00:09.50 | NeoTron | time where dots tick but you can't stand and use spells with a cast time |
| 00:09.52 | Wobin | ~lart NightHawkAtWork |
| 00:09.52 | purl | gives NightHawkAtWork a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 00:09.57 | Gagorian | So anyone else noticed spell haste rating is acting weird? The bonus received from spell haste is less than stated by blizzard API commands |
| 00:10.13 | snirks | what do you mean mobile? |
| 00:10.14 | NightHawkAtWork | Wobin: psh, you laughed. i can tell. :p |
| 00:10.25 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, do you mean that your dps doesn't rise proportionally to the % listed? |
| 00:10.25 | NeoTron | I like destruction because it's controllable DPS... but I really can't compete on fights like gruul unless it bugs out |
| 00:10.46 | Gagorian | KarlThePagan: Nope, the cast time of spells isn't reduced by the correct percentage |
| 00:10.57 | NeoTron | snirks: fights where you move / avoid stuff and thus can't dps |
| 00:11.07 | NeoTron | basically affliction fights |
| 00:11.24 | NeoTron | flipside being hydross and leotheras with frequent aggro wipes where usign dots can be really dangerous |
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| 00:11.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Gagorian: could it be an odd interaction with talents/abilities that reduce cast time? |
| 00:11.53 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, are you sure you're figuring it correctly? if you recall the effects of haste/slow were changed to be a relative change in the rate of attacks rather than direct changes to cast times |
| 00:11.56 | KarlThePagan | for example.... |
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| 00:12.18 | KarlThePagan | 400 haste rating from the ZG trinket is ~55% haste if i remember correctly |
| 00:12.28 | KarlThePagan | but that doesn't mean < 1.5s flays |
| 00:12.38 | KarlThePagan | (3 * 0.45) |
| 00:12.41 | Gagorian | NightHawkAtWork: Nah, I've checked different spells |
| 00:13.10 | Gagorian | KarlThePagan: Well, it's on long cast time nukes |
| 00:13.12 | KarlThePagan | instead it means 1.9s flays - (3 / 1.55) |
| 00:13.38 | KarlThePagan | what's your example and what's the cast time you expect? |
| 00:13.47 | KarlThePagan | and the haste rating & percentage? |
| 00:14.01 | KarlThePagan | I'm keenly interested if my assumptions are correct |
| 00:14.49 | NeoTron | haste rating would be yummy for destro locks |
| 00:14.55 | Gagorian | 320 and 15.2195 according to GetCombatRatingBonus(20) |
| 00:15.11 | Gagorian | but the actual reduction is 13.2% ish |
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| 00:16.05 | NeoTron | so what karl just said is correct |
| 00:16.46 | Gagorian | We're not talking about a spell with several ticks/hits |
| 00:16.47 | NeoTron | 100 - (100 / 1.152195) => 13.209137 |
| 00:16.57 | Moltarain | i got that trinket, on my priest. one thing i noticed is that it lags in windows (xp) when it procs. but not in linux (wine) |
| 00:17.05 | NeoTron | see a pattern? :P |
| 00:17.07 | KarlThePagan | yea Gagorian that's the rate increase not the casting time increase |
| 00:17.19 | KarlThePagan | that means you will throw 15.2195% more spells per minute |
| 00:17.43 | KarlThePagan | which turns into a 13.2% cast time reduction |
| 00:17.50 | Gagorian | Yar, I see |
| 00:17.55 | KarlThePagan | yea it's wacky |
| 00:17.57 | Arrowmaster | the only way to check if your in a party or not is with GetNumParyMembers() right? |
| 00:18.00 | Moltarain | it means that the spells cast in that time you got that buff is that much faster |
| 00:18.07 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 00:18.44 | KarlThePagan | and my haste rating numbers are most certainly incorrect ;( |
| 00:18.46 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: well you can do UnitExists("party1"), I guess |
| 00:18.54 | KarlThePagan | I should look it up |
| 00:18.55 | NeoTron | so I noticed the 4-piece bonus to lock T4 reduces the DPS of corruption... but makes it moare mana effective (naturally) |
| 00:19.00 | NeoTron | according to DrDamage at least |
| 00:19.06 | KarlThePagan | haha haste was getting pinged ;) |
| 00:19.12 | Moltarain | thus if the timer on the buff is on 1 when i start casting greater heal i still get the full benefit from it ;) |
| 00:19.14 | oHaste | yes :-( |
| 00:19.19 | KarlThePagan | :( |
| 00:19.57 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: most effecient way? if GetNumPartyMembers() == 0 then? |
| 00:20.02 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r41952 10VanasKoS/modules/WarnFrame.lua: VanasKoS: added a configuration option for the class icons and made warnframe actualize as soon as it gets to know more about the shown player |
| 00:20.08 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I'd think so, yes |
| 00:20.37 | vhaarr | internally that would just be a return <int>, while UnitExists probably has at least a table lookup |
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| 00:22.16 | trh_ | unless blizzard counts through the whole party table to determinate how many players the party has everytime ;) |
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| 00:23.28 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41953 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: |
| 00:23.28 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 00:23.28 | CIA-22 | - enhanced tooltip a bit more. |
| 00:23.37 | Adirelle | night |
| 00:26.23 | Gagorian | KarlThePagan: Do you know if bloodlust behaves the same way? |
| 00:26.35 | Gagorian | slash heroism |
| 00:26.43 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, yes - all haste effects operate this way |
| 00:26.45 | Gagorian | cba to find a shaman at this hour :p |
| 00:26.52 | trh_ | but it seems they store the actual number of party members and just return it on GetNumPartyMembers, it's about 3 times as fast as the UnitExists =) |
| 00:26.54 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r41954 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua: BigWigs: nolonger attempts to send RaidWarnings when not in a party or raid |
| 00:27.02 | KarlThePagan | since wow 1.12 or 2.0 I forget when it took effect |
| 00:27.09 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: want to double check that for me |
| 00:27.31 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: revret |
| 00:27.33 | vhaarr | revert* |
| 00:27.55 | vhaarr | no, wait |
| 00:28.23 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: Why does it matter? |
| 00:29.05 | Arrowmaster | rare condition that probably wont happen much, but it spams the chat window with "You are not in a party" when it does |
| 00:29.11 | vhaarr | Oh, really. |
| 00:29.22 | vhaarr | hrmpf |
| 00:29.41 | Funkeh` | wierd |
| 00:29.46 | Funkeh` | can't see how that could happen |
| 00:29.47 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: It shouldn't do that. |
| 00:29.56 | ulic | so you're running around the world with BW enabled but not in an instance? |
| 00:29.57 | Funkeh` | that measn theres a bug with disabling itself |
| 00:30.05 | Arrowmaster | well you have to manually enable BW to get it to happen |
| 00:30.17 | Arrowmaster | noticed it on kazzak |
| 00:30.27 | Funkeh` | why did you have to manually enable it there? |
| 00:30.45 | Arrowmaster | because i left the raid and wanted to still see the timers? |
| 00:31.19 | Funkeh` | and manually enabling it spammed your chatbox? |
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| 00:31.32 | Arrowmaster | every time it went to do a RW |
| 00:31.40 | Killmore | PlayerTarget is broken in ora2 :( |
| 00:31.53 | Arrowmaster | it printed out "You must be in a party" |
| 00:32.15 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41955 10Omen/OmenMenu.lua: Omen: Add some nice notification-type sounds into SharedMedia. I like Cheer, myself, because they're applauding me when I get aggro! |
| 00:32.30 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I don't believe you |
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| 00:32.45 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 00:32.54 | vhaarr | do you have "Broadcast to chat" enabled? |
| 00:33.01 | Funkeh` | neither do i but anyway its only 2 lines |
| 00:33.03 | Arrowmaster | to chat? no |
| 00:33.08 | Arrowmaster | only to RW |
| 00:33.23 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I don't get any errors. |
| 00:33.30 | NeoTron | a the top dpser / top warlock dpser in elitist jerks is felguard spec |
| 00:33.41 | NeoTron | wonder if he has a dedicated helaer for his felguard :P |
| 00:34.00 | Antiar1 | Felguards get avoidance, don't they? |
| 00:34.23 | NeoTron | it's not that useful |
| 00:34.29 | NeoTron | it's 50% chance to avoid an aoe hit |
| 00:34.37 | NeoTron | which is worse than 50% less dmg from aoe that hunters get |
| 00:34.54 | NeoTron | plus locks has no hot to throw ontheir pet (and pets are squishier in general) |
| 00:34.59 | NeoTron | however, he was in a shadow priest group |
| 00:35.17 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: ok, raidwarn set only to "Broadcast", not in a raid or party, manually enabled bigwigs, somebody pulled kazzak, get the line "You aren't in a party." printed to my chatframe when it tried to send a raidwarning |
| 00:35.29 | NeoTron | did almost 300 dps by itself |
| 00:35.53 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I don't think it was related to RW |
| 00:36.00 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: Probably RTI setting. |
| 00:36.29 | Arrowmaster | if you try doing /rw when solo you get the exact same message |
| 00:40.02 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:40.13 | Kody- | http://www.curse.com/ we opened up the new site beta to everyone level 2 or higher, so I'm sure a lot of you guys should have access now. Something cool added today is embeddable videos, so you can add in video examples of your addons if you want. :) |
| 00:40.45 | vhaarr | Kody-: Can I just use my curse-gaming.com login? |
| 00:40.51 | Kody- | Yup |
| 00:41.09 | Kody- | It uses email now instead of username for login |
| 00:41.16 | Kody- | We're also going to be implementing openid login |
| 00:42.09 | ulic | e-mail will be hidden though? and use username for display purposes? |
| 00:42.13 | Morgh | Kody-: Any idea why the curse-site is so sluggish to scroll down in? :) |
| 00:42.14 | Kody- | Yeah |
| 00:42.24 | Kody- | Hrm, what browser are you using Morgh? |
| 00:42.28 | Morgh | Opera. |
| 00:42.34 | Kody- | And are you refering to curse.com or the old site? |
| 00:42.57 | trh_ | Kody-: the result site when you search for downloads looks very cheap, other than that i like it so far :) |
| 00:42.59 | Morgh | The old one, sorry. It's a problem I have in alot of "new" sites. I was hoping you might know of a common reason for it |
| 00:43.01 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 00:43.11 | vhaarr | Kody-: will the green box at the top be removed? |
| 00:43.17 | Kody- | Ya |
| 00:43.23 | Kody- | That's just for zinor to report new changes for beta |
| 00:43.30 | vhaarr | it's way too far to scroll to get to actual content |
| 00:44.05 | vhaarr | Kody-: jesus |
| 00:44.34 | vhaarr | Kody-: if you don't give me multiple "project manager" accounts per addon now, I'll whine until you die |
| 00:44.52 | Kody- | Haha, I'm going to make sure zinor adds that :P |
| 00:45.00 | vhaarr | "about the authors" |
| 00:45.05 | vhaarr | what if we're 5 authors? |
| 00:45.33 | vhaarr | as it is on curse-gaming.com, after I whined to werick and net, we got it so that other accounts could edit a project |
| 00:45.41 | vhaarr | but they're still not LISTED as authors |
| 00:45.47 | vhaarr | which is -fucked up- |
| 00:45.52 | Kody- | Yeah I agree |
| 00:46.44 | Funkeh` | Kody-: 'This project and its downloads are currently unavailable while our moderators investigate it based on user reports.' |
| 00:46.54 | Kody- | Which? |
| 00:47.02 | Funkeh` | new bigwigs we jsut uploaded |
| 00:47.08 | Funkeh` | hasn't appeared and that was 30min ago |
| 00:47.17 | Kody- | Oh |
| 00:47.20 | Funkeh` | i typed the download address manually |
| 00:47.22 | Kody- | Let me approve it fast |
| 00:47.31 | Funkeh` | i thought that was for exes only |
| 00:47.36 | vhaarr | well I just uploaded it |
| 00:47.43 | Kody- | K it's approved |
| 00:47.48 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 00:47.51 | Funkeh` | :s |
| 00:48.04 | snirks | is there a RT compatible with the output CT_RT uses? |
| 00:48.06 | snirks | ace2 |
| 00:48.33 | trh_ | Kody-: the 'changes' list of a addon should contain more than just the last change.. more like a list with "last version: <changes>" "version before last version: <changes>" and so on :) |
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| 00:50.17 | trh_ | Kody-: and if you got many pictures for an addon, they are listed hundred miles to the bottom, even if theres place under the description of the addon =) |
| 00:50.25 | trh_ | Kody-: they should float around the text :) |
| 00:51.32 | Kody- | Good point |
| 00:51.37 | Kody- | Just noticed that |
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| 00:52.14 | ulic | is there a minimum char limit to user names? |
| 00:52.32 | Wobin | three characters? |
| 00:52.44 | vhaarr | in wow, I think it's 3, yes |
| 00:52.46 | vhaarr | no |
| 00:52.47 | vhaarr | it's 2 |
| 00:52.50 | Kody- | 2 yeah |
| 00:52.57 | Kody- | We have someone on Kilrogg named Fa |
| 00:52.57 | ulic | I meant on curse |
| 00:53.04 | Kody- | Oh |
| 00:53.05 | Kody- | Lemme ask |
| 00:53.35 | Kody- | 3 |
| 00:53.36 | ulic | I'm stuck using ulic75, becasue it says I user 'ulic' is taken, but I don't see a user profile for a user with that name :P |
| 00:53.58 | Wobin | and 74 other ulics =) |
| 00:54.03 | vhaarr | ulic: probably because that user has not upgraded his account for the *last* curse-gaming version |
| 00:54.16 | Kody- | Yeah |
| 00:54.17 | ulic | vhaarr: ahh |
| 00:54.22 | Kody- | Exactly what vhaarr said |
| 00:54.26 | vhaarr | which means that Kody- could just delete him |
| 00:54.30 | vhaarr | and give you the name |
| 00:54.38 | ulic | it's not a huge deal, was just wondering |
| 00:54.43 | Kody- | Well, I can give Ulic the name, but I'm not allowed to delete users :P |
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| 00:56.17 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: you don't have AceModuleCore embedded in CowTip |
| 00:56.39 | ZealotOnAStick | snirks: NRT. |
| 00:56.39 | trh_ | Kody-: instead of the 'R' behind every download, there should be a 'report' link at the bottom of the downloads which lets you choose which download is inappropriate - with 'R' for every download isn't clear what it means (could be bug report) and takes away space |
| 00:56.53 | trh_ | Kody-: (while being used pretty rarely i guess) |
| 00:57.13 | vhaarr | should just be a "Report" per project, not per-file |
| 00:57.23 | trh_ | ya.. |
| 00:57.29 | vhaarr | if some project manager uploaded something shitty, he should be smacked in the face and his project deleted |
| 00:58.32 | Kody- | I think the D and R are placeholders atm while our artists finish the addon section's graphics |
| 00:58.40 | vhaarr | irrelevant |
| 00:58.43 | Kody- | But yeah not a bad idea to keep it per project instead of per file |
| 00:58.43 | vhaarr | remove it completely |
| 00:58.55 | vhaarr | Kody-: Unapproved uploads should not be shown until they are approved |
| 00:59.09 | vhaarr | Kody-: like when I just uploaded a new BW and Funkeh` tried to download it |
| 00:59.25 | vhaarr | I don't see why he should be notified that a new release is ready until you have approved it |
| 00:59.32 | Kody- | Hrm, that's a bug Osso needs to fix, it's not supposed to be visible until approved |
| 00:59.32 | vhaarr | it's just annoying, really |
| 00:59.37 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:59.47 | vhaarr | like you have something in your favorites list to get mailed, and get the mail |
| 00:59.51 | vhaarr | and you can't freaking download it |
| 00:59.57 | vhaarr | so you have to keep checking manually |
| 01:00.39 | ulic | w00t, Kody- is the shiznit |
| 01:01.01 | Thorgard | Where can I get my grubby testing hands on WAU2 to break it? ;P |
| 01:01.38 | Funkeh` | why do they need approval anyway? |
| 01:01.43 | trh_ | wowace.com/wau2 |
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| 01:01.49 | Kody- | It contains a .bat or .exe file |
| 01:01.52 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: because it contains BAT/Shell files |
| 01:01.58 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 01:02.03 | Kody- | Or any form of executable application |
| 01:02.06 | Funkeh` | well don't you have a safe list? :) |
| 01:02.21 | vhaarr | don't safelist BW |
| 01:02.27 | vhaarr | Funkeh` can upload as well |
| 01:02.29 | vhaarr | :< |
| 01:02.32 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41956 10CowTip/ (embeds.xml libs/): |
| 01:02.32 | CIA-22 | CowTip: |
| 01:02.32 | CIA-22 | - added AceModuleCore-2.0 to embeds.xml and externs |
| 01:02.34 | Funkeh` | hahaha |
| 01:03.03 | Kody- | Hmm, Osso just checked and the file shouldn't show up yet, but he's fixing it so the favorites email doesn't get sent either |
| 01:03.06 | Funkeh` | im in ur bw, taking ur passwords |
| 01:03.08 | Kody- | Was this on curse.com that it showed up? |
| 01:03.15 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 01:03.19 | trh_ | Kody-: i don't get the 'plugin' thing, it shows 5 plugins on my addon, but if i click it, i land at the top of the page |
| 01:03.21 | vhaarr | I didn't check curse-gaming though |
| 01:03.23 | Funkeh` | no Kody- |
| 01:03.27 | vhaarr | Kody-: Might've showed up there as well. |
| 01:03.28 | Funkeh` | curse gaming |
| 01:03.33 | Kody- | Hrm |
| 01:03.33 | Funkeh` | thats where i checked |
| 01:03.34 | trh_ | Kody-: and i can't remember to have ever uploaded any plugins ;) |
| 01:03.37 | Funkeh` | so both then |
| 01:03.38 | pb_ee1 | ~wau2 |
| 01:03.45 | hypetech | my MT windows disappeared in ora2 and my PT windows crashed the mod -.- |
| 01:03.49 | vhaarr | purl, wau2 is wowace.com/wau2 |
| 01:03.50 | purl | okay, vhaarr |
| 01:03.51 | Funkeh` | it came up on new downloads page |
| 01:03.52 | trh_ | Kody-: http://downloads.curse.com/details/511/ if you want to see for yourself |
| 01:04.00 | snirks | ZealotOnAStick: thanks. giving it a try |
| 01:04.07 | pb_ee1 | thanks vhaarr =) |
| 01:04.25 | vhaarr | hypetech: latest revision? |
| 01:04.31 | hypetech | yep |
| 01:04.36 | pb_ee1 | going to bed, see you ;p |
| 01:04.40 | hypetech | and I seem to be the only one having trouble with it |
| 01:04.51 | Kody- | Ah |
| 01:05.15 | Kody- | The plugin links are placeholders atm, he hasn't finished setting up the plugin upload/download templates yet |
| 01:06.03 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41957 10oRA2/Optional/PlayerTarget.lua: oRA2: Optional/PlayerTarget: Bugfix. |
| 01:07.30 | hypetech | and my grid is showing people as dead when they aren't :( |
| 01:08.10 | snirks | ZealotOnAStick: hm, not as easy as ct_rt tho |
| 01:08.17 | vhaarr | snirks: Why not? |
| 01:08.22 | snirks | do i need to enter wtf folder to get teh string? |
| 01:08.27 | vhaarr | Get what? |
| 01:08.33 | snirks | the string for raidtracking |
| 01:08.35 | vhaarr | No? |
| 01:08.37 | snirks | in eqdkp format |
| 01:09.18 | vhaarr | Just click the tracker line in the tooltip. |
| 01:09.59 | snirks | as in on fubar? i think i miss a plugin |
| 01:11.08 | snirks | hmm no tracker line |
| 01:11.15 | snirks | trying a reload |
| 01:11.31 | vhaarr | perhaps you need to create an attendance set first |
| 01:12.27 | snirks | nah there is nothing there apart from Clear, Interval, Roster, Start, Stop |
| 01:12.33 | snirks | i've started and stopped a raid |
| 01:12.38 | snirks | and we've killed some and looted some |
| 01:12.48 | vhaarr | that's not NRT |
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| 01:13.13 | vhaarr | http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/NRT-2007-06-04.zip |
| 01:15.01 | Jagobah | what is that |
| 01:15.11 | vhaarr | raid tracker |
| 01:15.49 | Kody- | Gonna go grab some dinner, thanks for all the feedback so far :) |
| 01:15.56 | Jagobah | like ct raidtracker? |
| 01:16.10 | vhaarr | I have no idea, I've never used any raid tracker addons |
| 01:16.26 | vhaarr | I just make one :PÅ |
| 01:16.36 | Jagobah | ! |
| 01:20.17 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41958 10beql/beql.toc: beql: toc fix |
| 01:21.26 | kebinusan | nrt is nice |
| 01:21.40 | vhaarr | It'll be even nicer when that guy finishes Layout-1.0. |
| 01:21.57 | kebinusan | vhaarr, that reminds me any chance of getting an option for it to track dkp costs for drops |
| 01:22.05 | vhaarr | yeah it'll get that then |
| 01:22.28 | kebinusan | cool beans, I'll keep an eye out |
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| 01:26.09 | snirks | you're rabbit? |
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| 01:26.27 | snirks | trying dkpmon now |
| 01:26.33 | snirks | dont understand sqat |
| 01:26.40 | vhaarr | yes I am |
| 01:26.46 | vhaarr | I don't have anything to do with dkpmon |
| 01:26.49 | NimbleRabit | Hey does anyone know what would cause my Pitbull settings to randomly reset |
| 01:26.53 | NimbleRabit | and is there any way to get them back |
| 01:27.27 | Funkeh` | updating causes that sometimes |
| 01:27.31 | Funkeh` | and not as far as i know |
| 01:28.27 | NimbleRabit | I didn't update |
| 01:28.30 | NimbleRabit | =/ |
| 01:28.41 | NimbleRabit | gonna take so long to get settings back to how they were ugh |
| 01:29.35 | snirks | are you in Nihi? |
| 01:29.49 | snirks | @ vhaarr |
| 01:32.30 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r41959 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 01:32.30 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 01:32.31 | CIA-22 | - Uses API for spell haste rating, instead of by buff basis (this will make static spell haste rating calculation work) |
| 01:33.42 | pastamancer | hmm, does the file button in recount not do anything yet? |
| 01:36.09 | NimbleRabit | Have people been having problems opening WoW Ace Updater lately? |
| 01:36.13 | NimbleRabit | it won't open for me anymore and I can't figure out why |
| 01:36.26 | Funkeh` | not really |
| 01:36.31 | Funkeh` | althought it has been crashing a bit |
| 01:36.41 | Funkeh` | is it in your taskbar? |
| 01:36.46 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 01:36.48 | NimbleRabit | it goes to my taskbar |
| 01:36.51 | NimbleRabit | but doesn't open up |
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| 01:36.52 | Funkeh` | right click and click maximize |
| 01:37.03 | NimbleRabit | seriously I want to kill myself |
| 01:37.04 | NimbleRabit | that sems to easy |
| 01:37.13 | Funkeh` | its a bug |
| 01:37.15 | Funkeh` | maximize it |
| 01:37.17 | Funkeh` | close it |
| 01:37.20 | Funkeh` | open it and resize it |
| 01:37.33 | NimbleRabit | thanks |
| 01:37.40 | NimbleRabit | I keep it maxed anyways so it's all good now |
| 01:37.57 | Funkeh` | np |
| 01:38.46 | Gagorian | Can anyone tell me what in this function can take an average of 9 bytes per update? |
| 01:38.49 | Gagorian | http://ace.pastey.net/69979 |
| 01:38.53 | Gagorian | http://www.saunalahti.fi/~larssaar/DrDamage.jpg |
| 01:39.36 | Gagorian | at least, according to the Expo screenshot |
| 01:41.20 | trh_ | Gagorian: i'm not sure, but could it be the scheduling of a function()? |
| 01:41.42 | trh_ | Gagorian: i thought that the function gets then created every call |
| 01:41.43 | NimbleRabit | all my prat settings got reset too... |
| 01:41.46 | abyssichate | Has anyone ever tried to farm ZG bijous as a warlock 70? |
| 01:41.48 | NimbleRabit | why does this always happen |
| 01:41.51 | NimbleRabit | makes addons almost not worth it |
| 01:42.29 | pastamancer | Gagorian: the closure |
| 01:42.52 | Wobin | Gagorian: I'm wondering if you could cache the buffNames instead of calling reversetranslation each time? |
| 01:42.53 | Gagorian | Yeah, I guess that's it. Didn't figure it was "That much" though |
| 01:43.28 | hyperChipmunk | Expo is The Great Enlightener |
| 01:43.39 | Antiar1 | Gagorian: Pull the function definition out of the ...oh, someone got it |
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| 01:44.05 | Gagorian | Wobin: Well, yes, but I'm not certain it's worth it |
| 01:44.13 | Gagorian | It ends up being a lot of names |
| 01:44.25 | Tesh | question: if i wanted to save text that a user has typed into an input box, and later reload it on command, how should i go about? |
| 01:44.39 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r41960 10AutoBar/ (15 files): |
| 01:44.39 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 01:44.39 | CIA-22 | -- 30853,29443,30175 & other quest items |
| 01:44.39 | CIA-22 | -- Fix Attempt to call method 'GetProfile' (a nil value) |
| 01:44.39 | CIA-22 | -- Spell categories converted |
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| 01:46.14 | Tesh | nobody? |
| 01:46.26 | trh_ | Tesh: read the text the user typed either on enter pressing or on textchanged, store it into a variable/db/anything that gets saved via savedvariables and on the next addon loading it's in that savedvariable |
| 01:46.43 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r41961 10AutoBarConfig/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:46.43 | CIA-22 | AutoBarConfig: |
| 01:46.43 | CIA-22 | -- 2.01.00.04 beta |
| 01:46.43 | CIA-22 | -- Removed a bunch of redundant categories, shifted all non spell ones to PT3, partway through being completely PT3 based. |
| 01:46.43 | CIA-22 | -- Spell categories converted |
| 01:46.45 | CIA-22 | -- Bottled Nethergon Energy (32902) and Bottled Nethergon Vapor (32905) |
| 01:46.47 | CIA-22 | -- 11562:670 Ungoro Restore, 11952:425 Night Dragon's Breath |
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| 01:50.32 | aen` | how do i update cartographer instance loot? |
| 01:50.33 | Tesh | can you create variables as needed while the addon is running? |
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| 01:51.10 | aen` | the package must beneglected it |
| 01:51.55 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r41962 10AutoBar/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 01:51.55 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 01:51.55 | CIA-22 | zhCN translation updated by lostcup |
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| 01:56.20 | durcyn | vhaarr: PlayerTarget.lua:1681 attempt to index field 'roster' (a nil value) .. non-LOD, fwiw |
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| 01:58.33 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r41963 10Grid/GridLocale-zhCN.lua: Grid: zhCN translation updated by lostcup |
| 02:00.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | so where do i get !BugGrabber if it's not ace? |
| 02:00.15 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: thanks |
| 02:00.32 | ckknight | Gagorian: ? |
| 02:00.53 | Funkeh` | ckknight: the problem where cowtip shows no target is now happening 40% of the targets i hover |
| 02:00.55 | ckknight | Pheredhel: hrm? |
| 02:01.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh it is on ace |
| 02:01.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | just doesn't use the framework |
| 02:01.28 | Funkeh` | ckknight: also, i reverted your parser 3.0 change because it broke threat when users used parser 1.1 and 3.0 |
| 02:01.44 | Funkeh` | RaydenUnicyclist: maybe you should read up why |
| 02:02.47 | Gagorian | ckknight: Already solved :) |
| 02:04.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41964 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - fix issue where the target wasn't showing properly. |
| 02:05.07 | ckknight | Funkeh`: test |
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| 02:11.14 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 072.0 * r41965 10AuldLangSyne/ (7 files in 5 dirs): |
| 02:11.14 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: (2.0 branch) |
| 02:11.14 | CIA-22 | - Fix numerous drycode issues. |
| 02:11.14 | CIA-22 | - Hook up module menus. |
| 02:14.43 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 072.0 * r41966 10AuldLangSyne/ (Backup/Backup.lua Info/Info.lua Note/Note.lua Sync/Sync.lua): |
| 02:14.43 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: (2.0 branch) |
| 02:14.43 | CIA-22 | -Add handler to the aceoptions. |
| 02:15.25 | Gagorian | ckknight: self:ScheduleEvent("UpdatingAB", self.updateAB, 1, self, false, false, false, true) / AceEvent-2.0: Bad argument #3 to `ScheduleEvent' (string, function, or number expected, got nil) |
| 02:15.34 | Gagorian | What's wrong? |
| 02:15.45 | Antiar1 | Is self.updateAB nil? |
| 02:15.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 02:16.08 | Kemayo | (Argument 1 is self, after all.) |
| 02:16.36 | Gagorian | Antiarc: ... Time to go to bed! |
| 02:16.57 | Funkeh` | ckknight: how do i turn off that anoying fade? :/ |
| 02:17.02 | Gagorian | I thought I checked it several times. It's actually capsed UpdateAB |
| 02:17.04 | Gagorian | :p |
| 02:17.15 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Good news. Somebody explained to me that I can add hostile coloring myself, to the text at least. |
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| 02:18.59 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r41967 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 02:18.59 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:18.59 | CIA-22 | - Optimization: Removed closure creation from scheduled events |
| 02:19.54 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r41968 10XLoot/localization.zhCN.lua: XLoot: zhCN translation updated by lostcup |
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| 02:21.13 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r41969 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc): |
| 02:21.13 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:21.13 | CIA-22 | - And a few typo fixes.. Need moar caffeine |
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| 02:27.21 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41970 10AuldLangSyne/ (35 files in 6 dirs): AuldLangSyne: Merge 2.0 branch into trunk. |
| 02:28.27 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r41971 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 02:28.28 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:28.28 | CIA-22 | - And it's also good to remove debug messages |
| 02:31.43 | Funkeh` | ckknight_: how does one remove tooltip fading? |
| 02:31.59 | ckknight_ | Funkeh`: *shrug* CowTip doesn't have a fading module yet |
| 02:32.28 | Funkeh` | ckknight: it does for objects |
| 02:32.37 | Funkeh` | ckknight: npcs and unit frames are fine |
| 02:32.43 | ckknight | reread what I said. |
| 02:32.49 | Funkeh` | ckknight: but hovering over an object such as a fire make it fade |
| 02:32.57 | Funkeh` | and blizz default tooltip doesn't do that |
| 02:33.04 | Funkeh` | so you are telling me its not cowtip? :) |
| 02:33.46 | ckknight | right. |
| 02:33.48 | ckknight | it's not. |
| 02:33.50 | ckknight | it's Blizzard |
| 02:34.21 | Funkeh` | right |
| 02:34.27 | Funkeh` | lets turn off cowtip and see what happens |
| 02:35.28 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41972 10AuldLangSyne/ (AuldLangSyne.lua Sync/Sync.lua embeds.xml lib/): |
| 02:35.28 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 02:35.28 | CIA-22 | - AceDebug no more! |
| 02:35.28 | CIA-22 | - Clean up various module declarations to only use the mixins they need. |
| 02:35.32 | art3mis | man i want a hypno toad |
| 02:35.39 | Kemayo | And now... waiting 20-ish minutes for the complaints to flow in! |
| 02:35.44 | art3mis | ~hypnotoad |
| 02:35.45 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
| 02:35.53 | Funkeh` | i don't even get a tooltip, ffs |
| 02:36.48 | art3mis | hey kemay9o how come that thing doesnt do that bar when i do stuff? |
| 02:37.20 | Funkeh` | ckknight: hobering over an NPC without cowtip fades but an item is not it seems, so cowtip is supressing NPC fade but creating item fade? |
| 02:37.26 | Funkeh` | hovering* |
| 02:37.30 | Kemayo | art3mis: ...You may have to elaborate. |
| 02:37.39 | ckknight | CowTip does nothing to fading, as I already said |
| 02:37.51 | ckknight | afaik |
| 02:37.53 | art3mis | i was just giving you yer first complaint |
| 02:38.05 | art3mis | extrapolate your own possible cuase and effect |
| 02:38.05 | Kemayo | art3mis: Well, that's fair, I guess. |
| 02:38.12 | Kemayo | art3mis: The cause is that you suck. |
| 02:38.22 | Kemayo | (I'm channeling my inner ckknight.) |
| 02:38.23 | Funkeh` | ckknight: when i hover over an npc/player and unhover it disapears srtaight away |
| 02:38.29 | Funkeh` | ckknight: where as it fades with blizzard |
| 02:38.35 | art3mis | OH! |
| 02:38.41 | ckknight | Kemayo: hey, I don't tell people they suck outright |
| 02:38.46 | art3mis | so youre saying taht if i get someone else to do it itll work fine? |
| 02:38.52 | art3mis | ckknight: LIES! |
| 02:38.53 | ckknight | Kemayo: I tell them that masturbation is the root of their problems |
| 02:39.05 | ckknight | art3mis: it's cause you touch yourself at night |
| 02:39.10 | art3mis | get it masturbation....root *rimshot* |
| 02:39.27 | art3mis | i suppose, but you get all wierd in the mornings when i touch you |
| 02:39.32 | art3mis | so what options are there |
| 02:40.18 | art3mis | but people wont be late for work because the governor lady said "im sending in more trains" |
| 02:40.57 | art3mis | the bestest episode of futurama is on |
| 02:40.58 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:44.15 | art3mis | only 1 more week |
| 02:44.49 | art3mis | i figured that to do an ad campaign for the movie all they needed to do were give out free auto decals |
| 02:44.57 | art3mis | with the date below it |
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| 02:46.10 | kenlyric | 1 more week? |
| 02:47.19 | kenlyric | thought new futurama wasn't until 2008. |
| 02:48.10 | hyperChipmunk | is there any reason that a frame should show only once, then not appear again, despite all indications that it should be clearly visible? |
| 02:48.33 | kenlyric | fire INDEED hot! |
| 02:53.49 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41973 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Details/Details.lua: |
| 02:53.49 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 02:53.49 | CIA-22 | - Detail: Add hover tooltip to quest rewards. |
| 02:54.27 | kenlyric | oooh |
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| 02:58.19 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41974 10Cartographer/ (15 files in 14 dirs): Cartographer: Added zhCN locales |
| 03:00.30 | Antiarc | Is there a way to shorten numbers in Violation? |
| 03:00.56 | Kemayo | Do less damage? |
| 03:01.23 | Antiarc | I want like 22.5k |
| 03:01.26 | aen` | buffalo2 still really buggy? |
| 03:01.26 | Antiarc | Rather than 22500 |
| 03:01.32 | Antiarc | Because I want thin windows |
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| 03:03.07 | Cryect | Antiarc: btw threat reduction can be dodged etc |
| 03:03.15 | Cryect | it varies based on the moves though |
| 03:03.28 | Cryect | knockaway you dodge/parry/miss it then you don't lose threat |
| 03:03.40 | Cryect | Some though can't be resisted |
| 03:03.48 | Antiarc | How about Wing Buffet? |
| 03:04.11 | Cryect | Wing Buffet is a spell so I think you can only resist part of it |
| 03:04.12 | Cryect | not sure |
| 03:04.28 | Cryect | Void Reaver I know for sure since we've tanked him for 80% of the fight on dodge streaks |
| 03:05.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe.. "Conductor: For those of you that are interested, Penn Station is next. For those that aren't, it still is." |
| 03:05.23 | Cryect | which as well by that time you can often take a knockaway and still hold aggro since you've just had so much ton of rage as a druid |
| 03:07.01 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41975 10ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.toc localization-zhCN.lua): ACP: Added zhCN locales |
| 03:09.44 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Seems like Soulshatter reduces threat even if it's resisted |
| 03:09.58 | Antiarc | It does |
| 03:10.02 | Antiarc | I just don't have a lock to test with |
| 03:10.08 | Antiarc | So I keep getting distracted |
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| 03:10.58 | Gagorian | I can test if you want to try different stuff. Or look into it myself |
| 03:11.01 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41976 10AuldLangSyne/Backup/Backup.lua: |
| 03:11.01 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 03:11.01 | CIA-22 | -Backup: Fix some references to AuldLangSyne. |
| 03:11.12 | Gagorian | 5 min cooldown, and small chance to resist sucks though :P |
| 03:11.49 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 03:11.53 | Antiarc | Give it a look if you can |
| 03:11.58 | Antiarc | I'll get to it eventually either way |
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| 03:12.38 | Gagorian | It's probably the misshandler that isn't being triggered |
| 03:12.41 | Gagorian | should work otherwise |
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| 03:15.10 | Gagorian | Perhaps caused by Parser then? |
| 03:15.15 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41977 10DeuceCommander/ (DeuceCommander.lua DeuceCommander.toc): DeuceCommander: fix toc for 2.1 |
| 03:16.44 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41978 10sRaidFrames/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 03:16.44 | CIA-22 | sRaidFrames: |
| 03:16.44 | CIA-22 | - Update locale kokR |
| 03:16.48 | jme | http://ace.pastey.net/69983 |
| 03:16.56 | ckknight_ | okay, so I have no idea why Parser-3.0's commit could've broken Parser-1.1 |
| 03:17.08 | ulic | where are Elixirs in PT3? |
| 03:18.57 | Gagorian | ulic: Same class as all other consumables? |
| 03:19.36 | ulic | that's what I thought, didn't seem, I'll look some more |
| 03:20.31 | Gagorian | Some are probably missing |
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| 03:21.37 | ulic | yea, I think maybe so |
| 03:23.33 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41979 10Postal/ (Locales/zhCN.lua Postal.toc): Postal: Added zhCN localization |
| 03:23.39 | Cryect | ckknight: nor do I, checked over your code wasn't anything that really seemed like it should have been wrong |
| 03:23.58 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41980 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth: Added zhCN localization |
| 03:24.11 | ckknight | wait, so what was breaking? |
| 03:24.12 | Gagorian | Cryect: Are you aware of anything that could cause Recount settings being lost during zoning or whatever? |
| 03:24.39 | Cryect | I couldn't test it online at the time :-/ authentication servers were done all afternoon before I decided to go do something else |
| 03:24.58 | Cryect | Gagorian: Uh not unless for some reason Ace2 DB decides to reset Char profiles on zoning? |
| 03:25.12 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41981 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): FuBar, FuBar_PerformanceFu, FuBar_MoneyFu, FuBar_BagFu, FuBar_DurabilityFu: Fix zhCN localization |
| 03:25.15 | Cryect | I don't even use ResetDB anywhere at the moent |
| 03:25.37 | Cryect | I don't handle any zoning events so thats strange |
| 03:25.59 | Gagorian | Well, my guildmate was complaining about it. Maybe he meant relogging. |
| 03:26.00 | Cryect | I've had a couple reports though on bars, filtering settings not being saved for some strange reason, but can't replicate |
| 03:31.00 | Gagorian | Hmm, weird |
| 03:31.55 | ckknight | Funkeh`: ping |
| 03:32.10 | Funkeh` | ckknight: pong |
| 03:32.25 | ckknight | Funkeh`: what was breaking that made you revert? |
| 03:32.53 | ckknight | wrt Parser-3.0 |
| 03:32.59 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I just noticed something that may interest you about CowTip. Tell me if you heard this. When I mouseover a unit with health, it shows the healthbar on the left like I want it too right, well If I mouseover something like a sign that has a tooltip, it shows it with health,, but only if I had just come form a tooltip that's supposed to have health. |
| 03:33.06 | Funkeh` | using p1.1 and p3 simultaeniously |
| 03:33.16 | Funkeh` | would stop threat from recording completely |
| 03:33.25 | ckknight | RogueShadow: odd |
| 03:33.32 | Gagorian | Yeah, so people weren't seeing themselves in Omen |
| 03:33.40 | Gagorian | (or whatever using Threat) |
| 03:33.43 | ckknight | Funkeh`: except that Threat doesn't use Parser-1.1 if 3.0 is available |
| 03:33.48 | Antiarc | ckknight: Everything using Parser-3.0 was broken |
| 03:33.58 | ckknight | ...not when I tested it |
| 03:34.01 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 03:34.07 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I guess it's somethign really odd, because It only works for me on the bank sign in TB so far. |
| 03:34.14 | Antiarc | I had about 30 people today report "Omen doesn't show anything!" and a Parser revert fixed it. |
| 03:34.15 | RogueShadow | ckknight: no big deal I guess |
| 03:34.17 | Gagorian | Well, it was broken :( |
| 03:34.30 | Cryect | Its not broken for me |
| 03:35.00 | Cryect | testing 41846 its at least seeing damage |
| 03:35.03 | Cryect | need to check threat |
| 03:35.04 | RogueShadow | lol, tht's seriously weird. |
| 03:35.07 | Funkeh` | damage worked |
| 03:35.10 | Funkeh` | threat did not |
| 03:35.18 | Funkeh` | i guarantee you |
| 03:35.26 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41982 10/branches/StarBurst/StarBurst.lua: |
| 03:35.26 | CIA-22 | StarBurst: |
| 03:35.26 | CIA-22 | - works more than once now |
| 03:35.26 | CIA-22 | - menus now close when a sibling is open |
| 03:35.26 | CIA-22 | - ancestor menu fades to 50% alpha when a child menu opens |
| 03:35.27 | CIA-22 | - Shinyness Level: A Suffusion of Yellow |
| 03:36.19 | Arrowmaster | wtf happened to the way cia displays branch changes? |
| 03:36.29 | Cryect | the orange thing? |
| 03:36.39 | Cryect | who knows |
| 03:37.10 | Arrowmaster | oh wait its probably acting up because hC didnt do the branch like normal |
| 03:37.21 | hyperChipmunk | wuh? |
| 03:37.22 | Cryect | heh is it a real branch? |
| 03:37.31 | hyperChipmunk | did i spell it wrong? |
| 03:37.43 | Cryect | shrug |
| 03:38.13 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 03:38.18 | hyperChipmunk | no, there's no trunk equiv |
| 03:38.19 | Arrowmaster | i ment /branches/StarBurst/StarBurst.lua instead of the usuall /branches/StarBurst/BranchName/StarBurst/StarBurst.lua format |
| 03:38.23 | hyperChipmunk | it exists only in branchs |
| 03:38.39 | Arrowmaster | which gets the orange branch name in cia |
| 03:39.08 | Andune | is the purpose of ThreatToKTM to be a way for people who don't want threat bars (Omen) to still be able to share threat data w/ the KTM raid? |
| 03:39.28 | Andune | since Omen can share Threat-1.0 with KTM directly, now... right? |
| 03:39.29 | Antiarc | More or less |
| 03:39.51 | Andune | OK. |
| 03:40.06 | Thorgard | Interesting.. running Violation, Recount and Assessment at the same time.. all reset at the same time. For some reason Violation and Recount are shoing 82k less damage for the shadow priest than Assessment. |
| 03:40.13 | vithos | Antiarc: looks like intra-raid damage is getting added to global threat, from the Overload ability of some kara trash |
| 03:40.19 | Cryect | Are the Parser-1.1 backwards mode activating the global string generation |
| 03:40.23 | Cryect | Thorgard: SW:Death |
| 03:40.33 | Cryect | Thorgard: I don't believe Assessment considers friendly damage |
| 03:41.09 | Antiarc | vithos: Bizarre - definitely shouldn't. I'll keep an eye out. About to do Gruul so I can test it. |
| 03:41.34 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41983 10AuldLangSyne/ (Backup/koKR.lua Info/koKR.lua Note/koKR.lua Sync/koKR.lua): |
| 03:41.34 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 03:41.34 | CIA-22 | - relocation locale koKR |
| 03:41.36 | vithos | alright. i haven't seen it happen on gruul though |
| 03:41.45 | Antiarc | That actually raises an interesting point, Cryect |
| 03:41.47 | Thorgard | Cryect, but assessment is the one showing more damage than Violation and Recount. ;P |
| 03:41.53 | Cryect | yes... |
| 03:41.54 | Antiarc | I wonder if KTM counts SW:D self-damage towards threat |
| 03:41.57 | Cryect | Thats what I said |
| 03:41.58 | Andune | cryect: if assessment didn't consider certain damage, shouldn't it show LESS, not more? |
| 03:42.02 | Cryect | SW:Death causes damage to the player |
| 03:42.05 | vithos | but i'm actually not even zoned in, i just asked why a hunter generated 32k threat very rapidly and that was why |
| 03:42.14 | Cryect | violation and recount don't count it as damage done to hostiles |
| 03:42.21 | vithos | er, wait. |
| 03:42.24 | vithos | yeah i'm an idiot |
| 03:42.25 | Antiarc | vithos: Heh, that's hard to argue with. |
| 03:42.27 | Antiarc | ? |
| 03:42.30 | Cryect | whereas assessment just adds all damage done |
| 03:42.34 | Cryect | its like shatter on gruul |
| 03:42.34 | vithos | that guy's probably running KTM |
| 03:42.37 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 03:42.38 | Antiarc | That'd do it |
| 03:42.44 | vithos | yeah he is. |
| 03:42.46 | vithos | my bad |
| 03:42.58 | vithos | we haven't forced the guild to switch yet |
| 03:43.00 | Antiarc | Heheh, okay |
| 03:43.07 | Antiarc | This might be a good selling point ;) |
| 03:43.12 | vithos | indeed |
| 03:43.13 | Andune | cryect: interesting. Well for the shadow priests sake, I hope that was after a long run. 82k dmg is a big differnece for SW:Death. LOL |
| 03:43.15 | Cryect | look under friendly fire |
| 03:43.20 | Cryect | I bet you will find the missing 82k |
| 03:43.33 | Cryect | no 82k sounds right for the amount of damage the Priest did to himself |
| 03:43.36 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41984 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed TPS calculations. Now includes global threat/KTM. |
| 03:43.49 | Cryect | You should see how much damage shadow priests do in 10 minutes |
| 03:43.52 | Thorgard | Cryect, Shadow Priest's only used SW:D twice. |
| 03:43.58 | Thorgard | According to Assessment. |
| 03:44.05 | Cryect | What fight? |
| 03:44.10 | Thorgard | Whole run. ;P |
| 03:44.23 | Cryect | What type of priest uses sw:d only twice? |
| 03:44.40 | Cryect | as I said what does it show for friendly fire |
| 03:44.40 | Thorgard | The recently re-specced from healbotting type, I believe. :) |
| 03:44.51 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:45.07 | Funkeh` | when i speced away from healbot i thought i wouldn't take imp swp because i won't really use it |
| 03:45.18 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:45.42 | Funkeh` | its been a few month ssince tbc now and i actually know how to play |
| 03:46.06 | Funkeh` | swp = biggest damage spell |
| 03:46.23 | Funkeh` | according to the billions of WWS i always review |
| 03:46.38 | Thorgard | Cryect, friendly fire in Assessment? |
| 03:46.44 | Cryect | In recount |
| 03:47.01 | Thorgard | Ah, only the hunter and a druid.. Priest isn't even up there. |
| 03:47.04 | Thorgard | However. |
| 03:47.10 | Thorgard | The priest has been mindcontrolling a bit. |
| 03:47.22 | Thorgard | How do they handle MCd damage done. |
| 03:47.23 | Cryect | maybe assessment counts that? |
| 03:47.36 | Cryect | Recount would consider it as a mob |
| 03:47.46 | Cryect | if Assessment checks to see if its a minion maybe |
| 03:47.55 | Thorgard | Ah, that might be it, then. |
| 03:48.59 | Andune | question: At one point SupplyAndDemand was causing some issues with various addons (don't recall which. CF, Prat, perhaps?) |
| 03:49.22 | Andune | I love PerfectTargets, but it's the only mod that lists SupplyAndDemand as a required dependency. |
| 03:50.00 | Andune | I've just been commenting it out of the .TOC, but everytime it gets updated I gotta go do it again. So any idea if SupplyAndDemand is fixed and plays nice with AddonLoader? |
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| 03:52.12 | Arrowmaster | SupplyAndDemand is defunt now i think, if its listed as a ReqDep then somebody needs to change that mods toc permently |
| 03:52.42 | Gagorian | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 03:53.14 | purl | cncfanatics <n=cncfanat@96.101-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 42m 2s ago, saying: 'but now i'm going to install a debian box while my realm is offline, bye all :p'. |
| 03:53.44 | Andune | arrowmaster: yeah that's kinda what I was thinkin. OK well I'll just keep commenting it out for now |
| 03:53.52 | Andune | thx. |
| 03:54.46 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41985 10InFlight_Load/InFlight_Load.lua: |
| 03:54.46 | CIA-22 | InFlight_Load |
| 03:54.46 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:56.11 | Cryect | ckknight: Looks like the issue is RefreshEvents isn't registering any events because globalStringInfo is empty because you never called the HandleGlobalStrings but HandleGLobalStrings only gets called if an event is called |
| 03:56.41 | Cryect | Need to change it so it adds the events to globalStringInfo then adds just the patterns later |
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| 03:58.03 | Cryect | This doesn't make since really >_< |
| 03:58.36 | Cryect | must be something else higher up |
| 03:59.04 | Antiarc | [2007/06/27 20:58:35-8352-x2]: Violation-1.0.41827\Violation.lua:1839: table index is nil |
| 03:59.08 | Antiarc | Gotten that a number of times now |
| 03:59.12 | Antiarc | In combat, not sure what it's triggered by. |
| 04:00.44 | Cryect | Okay thats it |
| 04:00.47 | Cryect | CreateGlobalStringCaptureMaps() |
| 04:00.54 | Cryect | that can't be called in HandleGlobalStrings |
| 04:01.08 | Cryect | bwah |
| 04:01.16 | Cryect | except that does the pattern matches |
| 04:04.08 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: i used to get that abotu a month ago then it was fixed, never seen it since :P |
| 04:07.21 | Cryect | ckknight: got 2 problems the events never get registered since the GlobalStringFuncs never gets called and two need the validfuncs for RefreshEvents these are generated same time it generates the patterns |
| 04:09.21 | Kinkx | Kemayo - [2007/06/28 06:05:25-1332-x3]: AuldLangSyne_Info\Info.lua:266: attempt to call global 'deformat' (a nil value) |
| 04:09.31 | Xuerian | Who pinged me... |
| 04:09.48 | Cryect | ckknight: might be more but those are the major ones that I got around and reworking in a hacked version by calling the GlobalStringFuncs and commenting out the validFunc check |
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| 04:17.47 | Funkeh` | splitz |
| 04:23.01 | Kaydeethree | hate 1% wipes... almost freaking had leotheras |
| 04:23.43 | Cryect | hehe fun boss for 1% wipes! |
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| 04:25.10 | alb | can someone link haste's website |
| 04:25.59 | oHaste | http://fuxsake.net/ << there's a lot on it D: |
| 04:26.18 | alb | cheers |
| 04:26.22 | alb | D: |
| 04:28.50 | alb | anyone know of some other addon that increases the tab-target range? |
| 04:29.20 | Kaydeethree | it's a console variable... http://www.wowwiki.com/Config.wtf_defaults |
| 04:29.28 | ckknight | Cryect: hrm, okay |
| 04:30.09 | alb | aha, was looking for targetNearestDistance, thanks Kaydeethree |
| 04:30.38 | Killmore | haha we also wipe at 1% tonight on leo :( |
| 04:31.08 | Kaydeethree | the bad thing was... it was probably my fault. pulled aggro in a demon phase, nuking a little too hard. got my ass handed to me around 70% |
| 04:32.39 | Funkeh` | later folks |
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| 04:41.39 | CIA-22 | 03biggates * r41986 10RaidInfo/ (RaidInfo.toc common/Localization.zhCN.lua): |
| 04:41.39 | CIA-22 | RaidInfo: Localization Updated |
| 04:41.39 | CIA-22 | - Added localization for Simplized Chinese(zhCN) |
| 04:45.04 | CIA-22 | 03biggates * r41987 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.toc locales/zhCN.lua): |
| 04:45.04 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: Localization Update |
| 04:45.04 | CIA-22 | - Added lozalization for Simplified Chinese(zhCN) |
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| 04:52.24 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41988 10AuldLangSyne/ (11 files in 5 dirs): |
| 04:52.24 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 04:52.24 | CIA-22 | - Add a fubar plugin. |
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| 04:53.28 | Kemayo | Ooops, forgot an icon. |
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| 04:59.35 | NeoTron | fking lame |
| 04:59.43 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r41989 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua Reputation/rep.lua): |
| 04:59.43 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 04:59.43 | CIA-22 | - Typo fixed, Missing IDs added |
| 04:59.49 | NeoTron | hydross didn't switch from nature phase |
| 05:00.42 | NeoTron | tank survived until about the mid-250% phase. got crit for 69k in 500% phase. didn't make it |
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| 05:06.55 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 05:06.55 | CIA-22 | - Fu: Add the scroll icon from the friends pane as the fubar icon. |
| 05:07.41 | Roartindon | xt: ping |
| 05:08.41 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r41991 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 05:08.41 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:08.41 | CIA-22 | - zhCN translation updated |
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| 05:10.45 | theoddone33 | oh man, someone started a /played thread on my realm forums |
| 05:10.50 | theoddone33 | some of them are insnae |
| 05:11.12 | theoddone33 | 363 total, 203 days on one character |
| 05:11.34 | Kaydeethree | oO; |
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| 05:13.26 | _art3mis | is there a mod that shows all the marked tyargets? |
| 05:13.28 | _art3mis | targets? |
| 05:13.58 | _art3mis | like say rl marks 6 would it create a UF for each one so its a simple click to get? |
| 05:14.48 | Cryect | can't do that |
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| 05:18.58 | Antiarc | Is there a trick to enabling profile support in AceDB? |
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| 05:22.02 | ckknight | no |
| 05:23.08 | Antiarc | Why is it not showing up in Omen's dewdrop menus then? :/ |
| 05:24.45 | Antiarc | Order of registration, perhaps? |
| 05:26.51 | Roartindon | Antiarc: .independentProfile = true |
| 05:26.52 | ckknight | doubt it |
| 05:26.59 | ckknight | oh yea, that'd be it |
| 05:27.27 | Antiarc | So there is a trick! |
| 05:28.04 | Roartindon | Antiarc: You always have profile support, you just wanted independent profile support :P |
| 05:28.05 | CIA-22 | 03morgalm * r41993 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP-deDE.lua MorgDKP-enUS.lua): |
| 05:28.05 | CIA-22 | MorgDKP: |
| 05:28.05 | CIA-22 | - updated locals for MorgBid2.9a |
| 05:28.24 | Antiarc | Got it. |
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| 05:46.17 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 05:46.18 | CIA-22 | -Fu: No menu for now, just the base. |
| 05:46.18 | CIA-22 | -Info: Fix missing deformat. |
| 05:48.19 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41995 10Omen/ (4 files): |
| 05:48.19 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 05:48.19 | CIA-22 | - Added a tooltip to bars in the main display. |
| 05:48.19 | CIA-22 | - Added profile switching support to the options menu |
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| 06:18.28 | CIA-22 | 03flyflame * r41999 10Violation/locales/zhCN.lua: Violation: add zhCN locals |
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| 06:19.17 | Andune | ok monkeyin around with assessment - it's come a long way, I like! But, any idea how to get it to show percentages in addition to raw numbers? |
| 06:19.25 | Antiar2 | Hahahah wow. |
| 06:19.26 | Antiar2 | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 06:20.48 | Killmore | Antiarc: you see ? Threat is not trustable :( |
| 06:21.22 | Antiar1 | "It's simply displaying to the user that since Omen is spoofing versionresponce messages, they can't be trusted if the person is using Omen." |
| 06:21.33 | Antiar1 | Wow. |
| 06:21.35 | Antiar1 | I have no words. |
| 06:21.38 | Andune | The more I read Kenco's responses, the less and less I like KTM. |
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| 06:22.09 | Andune | And the harder I try to convince my guildies to get off of it and switch to Threat/Omen :P |
| 06:23.46 | Kemayo | I'm not even sure what he's saying... |
| 06:24.26 | cervanis | basically if Antiarc hadnt spoofed the response, he wouldnt have had to do it |
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| 06:27.37 | Dhraga | I think Omen works nice, the only thing for me is that Omens threath regarding the Warlocks Felguard threath is not accurate /shrug |
| 06:27.40 | Antiarc | Nevermind that I offered to work with him on a protocol to properly ID foreign threat sources. |
| 06:27.54 | Gngsk | shouldn't /cast [equipped:dagger] backstab; sinister strike work |
| 06:28.14 | Gngsk | says I need a dagger equipped if I don't |
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| 06:31.22 | Killmore | Why I only see the last change in the ChangeLog in WAU since the last version ? :( |
| 06:31.57 | ckknight | Antiarc: fix what? |
| 06:32.26 | ckknight | "Of course if the Threat library is updated to fix this, then versionresponse messages could again be trusted from all sources." |
| 06:32.32 | ckknight | what should be fixed? |
| 06:34.23 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42000 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
| 06:38.31 | ckknight | hey, 42000 |
| 06:38.36 | ckknight | gone to a korean |
| 06:38.39 | ckknight | lame. |
| 06:42.24 | [Ammo] | svn revisions don't give penis enlargement ckknight, so it didn't help him jack shit |
| 06:42.36 | [Ammo] | he's still a tiny prick |
| 06:42.50 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 06:42.56 | ckknight | Asians have small penises |
| 06:43.44 | ckknight | well, not in all cases |
| 06:43.50 | ckknight | just on a statistical average |
| 06:43.54 | [Ammo] | you'd be the most experienced in that :p |
| 06:44.20 | ckknight | I tend to read medical journals |
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| 06:48.38 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: question about threats version querys, when you do a dumppartyrevisions it has some users marked as incompatible, guessing this is down by having an oldest compatible revision number set in threat, what about when broadcasting your current revision also sending the oldest compatible revision so an even bigger out of date warning could be plastered infront of the user |
| 06:48.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42001 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - if a blank message is received, return ASAP |
| 06:49.36 | Antiarc | Good idea, but they won't recognize it if they're running older versions that don't have code to recognize oldest-compatible :P |
| 06:49.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 06:50.08 | Arrowmaster | but a future proofing against future incompatilbe revisions |
| 06:51.38 | Arrowmaster | im pissed at my guildleader and gona go edit his forum posts to always link to the most recent versions of ace mods instead of the latest version way back when he made the post |
| 06:51.53 | Antiarc | Hahah |
| 06:51.59 | Antiarc | But yeah, it's a good idea |
| 06:52.19 | Arrowmaster | i linked to the zips that are always the most recent in a reply and he never updated his post |
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| 06:52.46 | Arrowmaster | has omen 40973 linked which had the issue with global threat |
| 06:53.03 | Arrowmaster | and caused him to go 'omens buggy were not going to switch to it yet' |
| 06:53.07 | somber | good morning guys |
| 06:53.15 | Antiarc | That's like 100 revisions old |
| 06:53.17 | ckknight | morning, somber |
| 06:53.33 | [Ammo] | I was not seeing my own threat yesterday with Omen as were a lot of my guilddmates |
| 06:53.35 | ckknight | Antiarc: I has an idea |
| 06:53.40 | [Ammo] | I was seeing their threat |
| 06:53.43 | [Ammo] | so something was very fishy |
| 06:53.49 | ckknight | possibly the fish? |
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| 06:53.52 | Antiarc | [Ammo]: Broken parser. |
| 06:53.56 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 06:53.56 | Antiarc | Reverted, works now. |
| 06:53.57 | somber | any MAC user here today? |
| 06:54.02 | ckknight | [Ammo]: oh yea, my bad |
| 06:54.07 | ckknight | somber: it's Mac |
| 06:54.20 | ckknight | <--- MacBook Pro |
| 06:54.21 | [Ammo] | I updated after the revert though hmm |
| 06:54.26 | somber | i have imba problem m8! |
| 06:54.30 | [Ammo] | around 17:30 CET |
| 06:54.30 | somber | how can u play? |
| 06:54.38 | ckknight | how do you mean |
| 06:54.39 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:54.52 | somber | i have around 4-5 fps |
| 06:55.01 | somber | its imposible to play for me |
| 06:55.02 | ckknight | Antiarc: do the compat number thing, it's a good idea, but also make it give the warning if you're 1000 revisions out of date as well. |
| 06:55.08 | ckknight | somber: full-screen? |
| 06:55.20 | somber | full or window doesnt count |
| 06:55.34 | somber | yesrterday in the eye was a pain |
| 06:55.37 | [Ammo] | I might be wrong meh, ohwell, will try again tonight |
| 06:55.42 | ckknight | somber: turn down your video settings? |
| 06:55.49 | somber | i tried too |
| 06:56.09 | somber | nothing to do... all minimum details, 1x multisampling |
| 06:56.19 | somber | unplayable at all |
| 06:56.20 | ckknight | somber: how old's your comp? |
| 06:56.28 | somber | 2 days ^^ |
| 06:56.28 | Roartindon | somber: What mac model/memory/cpu do you ahve? |
| 06:56.38 | ckknight | somber: yea, what model/memory/cpu? |
| 06:56.42 | somber | new macbook with geforce |
| 06:56.42 | cervanis | ^^ |
| 06:56.51 | ckknight | how much mem? |
| 06:56.55 | somber | 2,4 ghz with 2 GB |
| 06:56.59 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:57.03 | ckknight | something's fishy. |
| 06:57.04 | somber | 256 mb geforce |
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| 06:57.14 | somber | i really dont understand why |
| 06:57.15 | [Ammo] | yarrr fishy! |
| 06:57.25 | somber | i tried to disable all mod too just to see... |
| 06:57.28 | somber | nothing |
| 06:57.29 | cervanis | if it was windows, id say go get new drivers ;) |
| 06:57.30 | ckknight | somber: get all the mac updates? |
| 06:57.42 | ckknight | somber: running Bittorrent in the background maybe? |
| 06:57.52 | ckknight | somber: or something else downloading or using a lot of CPU? |
| 06:57.53 | somber | only Ventrilo and wow |
| 06:57.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:58.01 | ckknight | wtf, then |
| 06:58.05 | somber | really... im getting mad |
| 06:58.05 | ckknight | reboot! |
| 06:58.11 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 06:58.18 | cervanis | get a pc! :0 |
| 06:58.22 | somber | omg never |
| 06:58.25 | ckknight | cervanis: no way, macs = sex |
| 06:58.27 | cervanis | haha |
| 06:58.34 | Roartindon | cervanis: He meant gay sex :P |
| 06:58.38 | ckknight | gay sex, but still sex! |
| 06:58.41 | ckknight | damn, Roartindon |
| 06:58.42 | Roartindon | lol |
| 06:58.44 | ckknight | beat me to it |
| 06:58.45 | Roartindon | I love my Mac too :) |
| 06:58.48 | ckknight | lol. |
| 06:58.51 | somber | u got radeon gfx ckknight? |
| 06:58.55 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r42002 10Bidder_FCZS/Bidder_FCZS.toc: Bidder_FCZS: bumped toc to 20100 |
| 06:59.00 | ckknight | somber: yea, I believe so |
| 06:59.02 | [Ammo] | we have one mac here, a macmini and it's used as a monitor stand |
| 06:59.02 | Roartindon | Yeah, macbook pros have ATI |
| 06:59.15 | somber | not now.. |
| 06:59.16 | [Ammo] | not connected ofcourse |
| 06:59.17 | ckknight | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/apple |
| 06:59.23 | alb | what |
| 06:59.26 | somber | they put geforce now |
| 06:59.31 | alb | aha albino |
| 06:59.37 | alb | i hate my nick |
| 06:59.52 | ckknight | get a new one |
| 07:00.03 | ckknight | I like mine, it's all unique and such |
| 07:00.04 | cervanis | best link ever |
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| 07:00.13 | somber | what can u suggest e ckknight? |
| 07:00.22 | ckknight | somber: possibly check forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 07:00.25 | ckknight | under the support section |
| 07:00.29 | ckknight | well, mac support |
| 07:00.34 | ckknight | possibly someone else has the same issue |
| 07:00.37 | ckknight | otherwise, post a new topic |
| 07:00.38 | somber | i try to post there |
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| 07:00.43 | cervanis | and update your mac |
| 07:00.52 | ckknight | I need more ram |
| 07:00.53 | cervanis | with all the osx updates or whatever they do |
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| 07:01.06 | ckknight | which means I need more users to donate |
| 07:01.10 | somber | mac is update |
| 07:01.18 | somber | its not about update |
| 07:01.27 | Kemayo | Good luck with that, ckknight. |
| 07:01.33 | ckknight | yea... |
| 07:01.39 | somber | i need to find someone with the same GFX |
| 07:01.39 | ckknight | not as fruitful as you'd think |
| 07:01.47 | somber | these laptop are too new |
| 07:01.49 | ckknight | cause users are either poor or lazy |
| 07:01.54 | [Ammo] | I'm up to 1$ |
| 07:01.54 | cervanis | i'd still update it anyways |
| 07:01.55 | [Ammo] | yay |
| 07:01.57 | cervanis | but whatever |
| 07:02.05 | somber | need luck to find someone with the same |
| 07:02.16 | ckknight | somber: still post |
| 07:02.23 | somber | i think they put on the market around 20 days ago |
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| 07:02.38 | Antiarc | I gotta say, adsense is the way to go ;) |
| 07:02.47 | somber | anyway... can ace2 addons slow my performance? |
| 07:02.54 | Antiarc | Sure they can |
| 07:02.54 | somber | i have load |
| 07:02.55 | Antiarc | Any addon can |
| 07:03.10 | somber | can play without pitbull or brtender... |
| 07:03.13 | somber | cant* |
| 07:03.18 | Roartindon | somber: every addon you install, if it does anything useful, will slow down performance; the goal is to minimize the performance hit |
| 07:03.32 | somber | yeah |
| 07:03.46 | somber | i think pitbull steal load of performance |
| 07:04.08 | Roartindon | somber: Shouldn't be dropping your framerate to single digits tho |
| 07:04.13 | somber | yesteray i had problem even to move mouse.. just to explain the problem |
| 07:04.14 | Roartindon | I have the model before yours and I get 100fps in org |
| 07:04.29 | somber | i hate u roar |
| 07:04.31 | Roartindon | Sounds like something else is terribly wrong |
| 07:04.43 | somber | every mac user is happy... all except me |
| 07:04.46 | somber | i need to fix |
| 07:04.51 | somber | need to fix!! |
| 07:04.52 | Killmore | Antiarc: and you, how much did you receive from donation ? :P |
| 07:05.15 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: You're $1 ahead of me :) |
| 07:05.18 | Antiarc | I'm at uh...$39 in paypal between Omen and my armory tools |
| 07:05.31 | Antiarc | But the armory tools make $20-$30/day off of Adsense |
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| 07:05.39 | Killmore | omg you hack |
| 07:05.44 | Antiarc | Unfortunately, they run on the same connection I WoW on and I lag like a bitch now :( |
| 07:05.49 | [Ammo] | doh |
| 07:05.51 | Antiarc | Lack of bandwidth for the lose. |
| 07:05.59 | cervanis | heh |
| 07:06.05 | ckknight | hey norganna |
| 07:06.13 | ckknight | all the cool kids are hanging out here now, I guess |
| 07:06.21 | ckknight | norganna, AnduinLothar, Shirik |
| 07:06.25 | norganna | yeah, everywhere is too quiet |
| 07:06.30 | Antiarc | I'm thinking that if I could figure out some way to do a WWS-for-threat kind of thing built on top of Threat, I could probably turn that into a decent revenue stream with Adsense. |
| 07:06.32 | AnduinLothar | it's where the activity is, if nothing else |
| 07:06.33 | ckknight | not here |
| 07:06.42 | norganna | can hear the crickets chirp |
| 07:06.50 | somber | ckknight can u come private? |
| 07:06.56 | Antiarc | He charges for that |
| 07:06.58 | norganna | So do i get +v like AnduinLothar ? |
| 07:06.59 | [Ammo] | that's the kind of activity! |
| 07:07.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+nrg] by [Ammo] |
| 07:07.09 | [Ammo] | doh |
| 07:07.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+v norganna] by ckknight |
| 07:07.16 | ckknight | outside messages? |
| 07:07.18 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 07:07.22 | [Ammo] | I messed that up |
| 07:07.27 | MentalPower | I feel left out |
| 07:07.36 | ckknight | how come? |
| 07:07.38 | [Ammo] | don't even know what nrg des |
| 07:07.39 | syeren | ckknight, if I donate, will you start working on Auras :P? |
| 07:07.39 | [Ammo] | does |
| 07:07.46 | [Ammo] | I tried /mode +v #wowace norganna |
| 07:07.51 | [Ammo] | bt it did [09:07] ùíù mode/#wowace [+nrg] by [Ammo] |
| 07:07.57 | ckknight | syeren: it's possible, though unlikely, got too much stuff to deal with irl |
| 07:08.04 | syeren | I'm being serious here too :p |
| 07:08.06 | [Ammo] | ohwell people can still talk |
| 07:08.20 | ckknight | syeren: and seeing as how my dad refuses to stop working, even on the weekends, I have like no free time |
| 07:08.27 | ckknight | and when I get home from work, I'm always tired |
| 07:08.31 | ckknight | so...blah |
| 07:08.41 | syeren | :/ |
| 07:08.51 | somber | im going to check forum... see u soon |
| 07:08.54 | ckknight | k |
| 07:09.00 | ckknight | it's "you", btw |
| 07:09.05 | ckknight | we use big-people words here |
| 07:09.30 | [Ammo] | hmm g = bad word filter hmm |
| 07:09.33 | kebinusan | I keep hearing this dinging in game |
| 07:09.39 | kebinusan | and I cant figure out what mod it is |
| 07:09.49 | syeren | ckknight, give me your donate linky thing, can't find it on Pitbull listing page ;p |
| 07:10.10 | *** mode/#wowace [-g] by [Ammo] |
| 07:10.38 | ckknight | syeren: paypal ckknight@gmail.com |
| 07:10.52 | ckknight | [Ammo]: bad word filter? |
| 07:10.59 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 07:11.00 | ckknight | kebinusan: TopScoreFu? |
| 07:11.09 | [Ammo] | I'll just sst the modes to what wowi-lounge has |
| 07:11.19 | *** mode/#wowace [-r] by [Ammo] |
| 07:11.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+s] by [Ammo] |
| 07:11.41 | Arrowmaster | dont need +s |
| 07:11.46 | ckknight | yea, take off +s |
| 07:11.50 | *** mode/#wowace [-s] by [Ammo] |
| 07:11.54 | ckknight | we aren't secretive |
| 07:11.56 | somber | do u use GLFaster "2" into your config.wtf |
| 07:11.59 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 07:12.05 | ckknight | somber: it's possible. try it out. |
| 07:12.12 | kebinusan | open I think |
| 07:12.13 | somber | i have it... |
| 07:12.18 | kebinusan | but I have the warning sound disabled |
| 07:12.21 | somber | do u use it? |
| 07:12.21 | kebinusan | *omen |
| 07:12.23 | ckknight | somber: set it to 1 maybe? |
| 07:12.38 | somber | i give it a try |
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| 07:14.56 | Antiarc | kebinusan: If the sound's set to "None" it shouldn't be dinging |
| 07:16.12 | ckknight | ugh, I want to watch a TV show to get my mind off the troubles of real life |
| 07:16.21 | ckknight | except that nothing is out to download |
| 07:16.23 | ckknight | which is lame |
| 07:17.35 | ckknight | so I've had to be content watching youtube videos about the Arab-Israeli conflict |
| 07:17.45 | ckknight | and that's just not getting my mind off real life as one would expect |
| 07:18.06 | kebinusan | antiarc yeah somethings dinging, lemme try toggling the sound to something else and back to none |
| 07:19.23 | kebinusan | could be any of a number of mods I update from the svn tho |
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| 07:26.33 | theoddone33 | warlock is nice |
| 07:26.38 | theoddone33 | chain fear to solo elite mobs is OP |
| 07:26.41 | theoddone33 | even at level 40 |
| 07:26.47 | theoddone33 | er 30 |
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| 07:30.14 | kebinusan | mages can do it too |
| 07:30.34 | theoddone33 | chain fear? |
| 07:30.36 | theoddone33 | or root |
| 07:30.47 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:30.59 | theoddone33 | hunter and lock would seem to be the easiest to level up for soloing things |
| 07:31.26 | theoddone33 | mage is a lot of fun though |
| 07:31.54 | somber | cckinght... can u please pass me your config.wtf please... i want to inspect it |
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| 07:39.55 | Mikk | frostmages are totally overpowered at soloing meleeing mobs |
| 07:40.09 | Mikk | got a guildie that soloed borelgore at 58 or so |
| 07:40.22 | Mikk | 1700 hp, full-on "of frozen wrath" greens >.< |
| 07:40.25 | Wobin | runrunrunrun lvl1 frostbolt runrunrunrunrun fireblast runrunrun |
| 07:41.00 | [Ammo] | hmmcoffeee good |
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| 07:52.23 | omega_ | hehe, I remember kiting with my frost/arcane mage |
| 07:52.38 | omega_ | doing rank 1 fb untill clear casting proced or frostbite proced |
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| 07:53.03 | omega_ | took some time, but anything melee that wasn't immune to slow or freezing could be taken down |
| 07:53.40 | somber | T_T login error on blizzard forum |
| 07:53.48 | somber | i need to post there my issue |
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| 07:53.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 07:54.23 | somber | anyone today got problem loggin into official wow site? |
| 07:54.51 | somber | it continues to say login error even if my details work to log into the game |
| 07:56.10 | norganna | http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2005-12/0010.shtml |
| 07:56.20 | norganna | sorry, mistell |
| 07:56.29 | norganna | to many damn tabs :p |
| 08:00.06 | somber | omg.. i cant even manage my account... |
| 08:00.17 | somber | it says wrong password... wtf is going on? |
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| 08:01.58 | alb | try an older password |
| 08:04.25 | somber | nonsense... |
| 08:04.48 | somber | i can log but i cant manage my account... =S |
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| 08:07.05 | xt | Roartindon: hey |
| 08:08.07 | Roartindon | xt: Check the Assessment forums.. posted something for you there |
| 08:08.30 | xt | Sweet! Too bad I'm at work and can't test now :) |
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| 08:15.16 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 08:15.41 | Codayus | Anyone know if the CTRT XML syntax is documented anywhere? |
| 08:15.53 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 08:15.55 | [Ammo] | probably only in the code |
| 08:16.09 | Codayus | Bleh |
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| 08:23.39 | CIA-22 | 03mentalpower * r42003 10nSideBar/ (. DongleStub.lua Load.xml SideMain.lua nSideBar.toc): |
| 08:23.39 | CIA-22 | nSideBar |
| 08:23.39 | CIA-22 | - A New AddOn designed to clean out the minimap icons and place them on an extendible, movable frame. It was created to eliminate AddOns fighting for minimap real-estate. |
| 08:23.39 | CIA-22 | - The API for this AddOn will be released within the following days |
| 08:23.39 | CIA-22 | - This AddOn makes use of the DongleStub library. |
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| 08:28.42 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42004 10Baggins_GarbageFu/Baggins_GarbageFu.toc: Baggins_GarbageFu: Author simply "Mikk". Also nuke unneeded optdeps - AceLibrary handles that. |
| 08:29.49 | xt | Roartindon: also..the spell details arent very helpful without display of the % |
| 08:30.11 | xt | like..the most advanced dmg meters out there..but it cant display %..hehe |
| 08:31.33 | MentalPower | gnight guys :) |
| 08:32.32 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42005 10IgnoreMore/ (. IgnoreMore.toc): IgnoreMore: Author simply "Mikk". Add X-Category. |
| 08:33.12 | Roartindon | xt: % is there, just not enabled by default... most of them have Text 3 not set to visible. |
| 08:33.39 | Roartindon | xt: Either enable it, and position it where you want it, or grab the tag, and merge it with Text 2 |
| 08:34.28 | xt | I usually consider myself a power user, but when it comes to assessment, I feel like a complete nub |
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| 08:35.53 | pb_ee1 | Heya :) |
| 08:35.58 | Roartindon | xt: Yeah, I need to document it properly |
| 08:36.16 | Roartindon | xt: The texts can display anything you like.. kergoth has screenshots of % damage about a week after I first posted assessment :) |
| 08:39.48 | theoddone33 | I'm disappointed that wowhead doesn't have pet skills on the warlock spells page |
| 08:39.54 | theoddone33 | QQ |
| 08:40.34 | Kirkburn|sleep | Antiarc, http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 08:40.57 | Kirkburn|sleep | (Antiarc|Work too?) |
| 08:41.21 | _art3mis | this new guild im in is spooky |
| 08:41.22 | Kirkburn|sleep | I hope what I said was right at least :P |
| 08:41.38 | art3mis | just did kara up to illhoof |
| 08:41.42 | art3mis | and it was fun |
| 08:43.16 | Wobin | Kirkburn|sleep: is it sad that I can recognise where that page goes to by now, from the url alone? |
| 08:43.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | hehe |
| 08:43.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's not a flamewar any more at least |
| 08:43.55 | Wobin | You can see Kenco chomping at the bit to make it one though =P |
| 08:44.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | Actually, rereading it, he really is |
| 08:45.04 | Wobin | he really really is |
| 08:45.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | I can only assume he's either getting bug reports from elsewhere, or that he's just trying to put down Omen (the wrong addon anyway) with crazy insults |
| 08:46.10 | Wobin | Well, there's be -no- precedent for -that-! =P |
| 08:46.17 | Wobin | s/be/been/ |
| 08:46.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | He says "all you had to do was send Threat version" ... yes, because we all know KLH supports that :/ |
| 08:47.29 | Wobin | It's our dumb addon that's screwing it up for us, obviously |
| 08:47.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | (actually I have no idea, I'm just guessing =) |
| 08:47.58 | Codayus | I'm confused as to the nature of these bug reports he's talking about. |
| 08:49.26 | Wobin | hehe |
| 08:49.31 | Wobin | I'm glad you edited that, Kirk =) |
| 08:49.38 | Wobin | We don't want to accuse him of being confused =P |
| 08:49.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | I think the message timings on CG are messed up - as soon as I posted it said I posted 15 mins ago :/ |
| 08:50.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | I didn't want start the flamewar again with thinly veiled insults :P |
| 08:55.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | omgomgomg, we're all gonna die in a tangled mess of maintenance and netsplits |
| 08:55.28 | Kemayo | Is there a way to look up a local variable, in a similar way to that in which getglobal works? |
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| 08:57.16 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r42006 10AutoBar/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 08:57.16 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 08:57.16 | CIA-22 | zhCN Translation updated |
| 08:57.50 | somber | any mac book pro user online? |
| 08:58.22 | omega_ | somber: me, but I dont have wow on it |
| 08:59.40 | somber | nothing then... |
| 08:59.55 | somber | it seems im the only one who has problem with it... |
| 09:01.27 | somber | moreover i cannot even post on blizzard forum... they have some kind of problem with users and pass |
| 09:01.34 | pb_ee1 | " Good day all, In about 15 minutes to half an hour i'm going to begin maintenence on a few servers. About 5000 total users will be affected by this and this should not take long at all. I will give any further information in wallops, /mode your_nick w if you wish to see any further info." |
| 09:01.56 | pb_ee1 | (for those who have not seen the info ;p) |
| 09:01.57 | somber | i can log into the game but i cant log in my account on their site |
| 09:02.10 | todd | did you change your password recently? |
| 09:02.14 | somber | no |
| 09:02.20 | somber | its more than 1 month |
| 09:02.27 | todd | I had the same problem when I changed my password, it took a few days to update on the site |
| 09:02.46 | somber | it doesnt work even with old one |
| 09:03.03 | somber | i just cant log to manage my account... weird... |
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| 09:03.35 | somber | need to find the solution for my issues... cant play with 4-5 FPS |
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| 09:04.56 | pb_ee1 | somber: Maybe you have some special chars in your password that are not correctly converted when sent to blizzard's server |
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| 09:05.18 | somber | no speciual char... only letters and numbers |
| 09:05.54 | somber | the strange is i can connect on game but the same details dont work to log on their site |
| 09:06.06 | somber | i tried around 50 times... |
| 09:06.23 | nevcairiel | did you change your password recently? |
| 09:06.27 | nevcairiel | if so, try the previous one |
| 09:07.16 | somber | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.57 | pb_ee1 | somber: Strange, but it is not strange that you can login to wow, because it's the game that manage your inputs |
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| 09:08.15 | pb_ee1 | And that's not true when sending data to a server :P |
| 09:08.32 | pb_ee1 | I'd like to help you but i'm not going to ask you your password ^_^ |
| 09:08.40 | somber | hehe |
| 09:08.44 | somber | ill wait then |
| 09:08.55 | somber | i tried on 2 machines too... same issue |
| 09:09.01 | somber | its not browser problem |
| 09:09.09 | pb_ee1 | argh |
| 09:09.18 | pb_ee1 | Then you should call blizzard's support line ;p |
| 09:09.19 | somber | im getting crazy... |
| 09:09.23 | pb_ee1 | It's free |
| 09:09.34 | somber | yeah,,, it seems the last thing to do |
| 09:09.39 | somber | i really need to post on forum |
| 09:09.52 | pb_ee1 | I called them yesterday to change my password, it took something like 3 minutes |
| 09:09.59 | pb_ee1 | my mail* sorry |
| 09:10.23 | nevcairiel | Hm, i wonder if i could convince SW_Stats to not keep my timeline data .. i never needed it before |
| 09:11.21 | pb_ee1 | Is there a way to remove the icon of an addon from the minimap if you _do not_ have FuBar installed? |
| 09:11.49 | pb_ee1 | (with the addon is using FuBarPlugin obviously) |
| 09:11.52 | somber | guys... can u suggest me a fubar mod to show me FPS? |
| 09:11.54 | pb_ee1 | w/is // |
| 09:12.01 | pb_ee1 | argh |
| 09:12.03 | xt | somber: fubar_performance |
| 09:12.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | PerformanceFu |
| 09:12.26 | pb_ee1 | somber: Remember not to enable CPU Profiling :-P |
| 09:12.37 | Mikk | Kemayo: No, you cannot lookup local variables. They're treated almost like registers in a CPU. |
| 09:12.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | I can't connect to EU WoW :/ |
| 09:12.59 | Mikk | The only way of accessing them in standard Lua is via the debug library, but WoW doesn't give us that, so, no. |
| 09:13.08 | Kemayo | Mikk: Okay, thanks. |
| 09:13.46 | Mikk | On the plus side, due to the special treatment of locals, they're also blitzingly fast compared to global variable access. |
| 09:14.39 | Mikk | somber: FuBar_MiniPerfsFu if you want something even lighter |
| 09:14.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ah, great, there's a major connection problems in the EU |
| 09:15.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | Seemed to start about 1 hour ago |
| 09:15.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Mikk, you able to log in? |
| 09:16.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | ( http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298942299&sid=1 ) |
| 09:16.38 | theoddone33 | ahhh I didn't realize warlocks have a dispell |
| 09:16.47 | theoddone33 | I mean spellstone, not felhunter |
| 09:16.59 | theoddone33 | sounds like it works like cloak of shadows |
| 09:17.50 | somber | nice addon! |
| 09:18.09 | somber | but its not acceptable to have 9-10 FPS when u move... |
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| 09:28.55 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r42007 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: add GetArenaRatingFromPoints func |
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| 09:29.46 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42008 10AuldLangSyne/ (Fu/Fu.lua Note/Note.lua): |
| 09:29.46 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 09:29.46 | CIA-22 | -Fu: Display guild members also. Allow selection of coloring strategies and columns. No sorting yet. |
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| 09:30.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | Latest update on EU server problems - http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298942316&pageNo=1&sid=1 |
| 09:30.34 | Kemayo | And now, bed. |
| 09:30.53 | Kirkburn|sleep | nevcairiel, lots of people can't connect at all |
| 09:31.13 | nevcairiel | Good that i am not lots of people :D |
| 09:31.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | England, Sweden, Denmark, Scotland, Finland are places that have come up so far |
| 09:31.37 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 09:31.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oh, and Germany |
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| 09:31.56 | Codayus | 5! = 12 in base 118. The things you learn browsing the net at 5am... |
| 09:32.36 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oh, and looking down the list futher, seems to be affecting the entire EU |
| 09:32.40 | nevcairiel | how can 5! be 12 in base 118? |
| 09:32.44 | Kirkburn|sleep | nevcairiel, don't log out! :P |
| 09:32.48 | nevcairiel | everything < 118 should be one char |
| 09:32.52 | Codayus | I'm not sure, but I read it on the internet so it must be true. |
| 09:33.04 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn|sleep: just did |
| 09:33.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | rawr |
| 09:33.18 | Codayus | Would "bstorer" on the WTF forums lie to me? I THINK NOT. |
| 09:33.25 | Iceroth | hmm, my stormreaver works just fine (from finland)... too bad, i should be writing my master thesis.. |
| 09:33.37 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn|sleep: just logged in again :P |
| 09:33.48 | nevcairiel | no issues here |
| 09:33.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | I hate you |
| 09:34.06 | Codayus | But now you've made me thing about it. Let's see. |
| 09:34.25 | Codayus | 5! is 120 in base 10. 120 in base 10 would be... 12 in base 118. |
| 09:34.38 | Codayus | Nope, that's actually correct nevcairiel. :-) |
| 09:34.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | Odd it only affects some people, but over the entire EU |
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| 09:35.08 | cryogen | Kirkburn|sleep: internet stuff is very rarely geopraphical |
| 09:35.16 | cryogen | i think you'll find it's certain routes that are affected |
| 09:35.21 | Daemona | i am fine connecting to eu-destromath from germany |
| 09:35.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yeah, quite possibly |
| 09:35.29 | cryogen | probably even localised to one internet exchange |
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| 09:35.40 | cryogen | or one piece of fibre |
| 09:35.49 | Kirkburn|sleep | At first it looked like it was just north/west EU, but Poland, Italy and others are having problems too |
| 09:36.00 | cryogen | it prbably even has redundancy but i bet the swarm of wow traffic killed it :p |
| 09:36.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | haha |
| 09:36.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | Well some people have reported intermittent successes |
| 09:36.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | So it could indeed be overloading |
| 09:36.34 | nevcairiel | Codayus: how is base 118 defined ? :o 0-9a-zA-Z + what? |
| 09:36.37 | cryogen | makes sense |
| 09:36.52 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 09:37.07 | cryogen | usually when these things happen it's a fairly safe be to blame someone like telia |
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| 09:37.14 | cryogen | s/be/bet/ |
| 09:37.36 | cryogen | but of course people will be trashing the hell out of blizzard im sure :) |
| 09:38.01 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r42009 10FuBar_ArenaFu/: FuBar_ArenaFu - Coming soon |
| 09:38.39 | packetlss | considering that Telia |
| 09:38.55 | packetlss | considering that Telia's statuspage is down it's a fair bet they are to blame :) |
| 09:39.01 | cryogen | haha! |
| 09:39.04 | cryogen | see, i knew it :D |
| 09:39.21 | somber | is there any MAC tech support on wow EU forums?!?! |
| 09:39.25 | somber | ù |
| 09:39.43 | somber | the only one i found is on us side |
| 09:39.53 | Athou | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/6990/#comment_272985 |
| 09:39.56 | Athou | latest comment :x |
| 09:40.56 | vhaarr | Athou: Jesus fucking christ, if a GM banned someone for using that, you need to make a forum post. |
| 09:40.58 | Daemona | of course.... |
| 09:41.10 | oHaste | or! |
| 09:41.16 | oHaste | it's the common guy blaming the mod |
| 09:41.24 | Daemona | oNo ? |
| 09:41.27 | vhaarr | oYes |
| 09:41.28 | Gandharva | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6977.0 :( So we need a new name for MountMe... |
| 09:41.35 | oHaste | You've seen it countless times before, people blaming blizzard and getting owned by a CM on the forum |
| 09:41.44 | vhaarr | indeed, it's true |
| 09:41.48 | Daemona | me say da truth, got banned for using pure blizz interface and mod XXX |
| 09:42.22 | Iceroth | those posts are always hilarious :p |
| 09:42.33 | Daemona | sry haste, its just too much fun :) |
| 09:42.52 | vhaarr | oRly! |
| 09:43.06 | haste | yaRly |
| 09:43.08 | Daemona | vhaaRly |
| 09:43.11 | Daemona | :X |
| 09:43.12 | vhaarr | lol |
| 09:44.09 | vhaarr | :o |
| 09:44.17 | vhaarr | I think we finally got our first dongle addon on the svn |
| 09:44.18 | vhaarr | about time |
| 09:44.26 | haste | and the reason I had oHaste Daemona, was because I don't want to get a highlight everytime someone talks about haste rating |
| 09:44.48 | xt | lol |
| 09:45.31 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r42010 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (6 files): FuBar_ArenaFu - First release. display honor info, arena info |
| 09:46.11 | vhaarr | 1. Display honor info, arena info |
| 09:46.13 | vhaarr | 2. ??? |
| 09:46.16 | vhaarr | 3. Profit! |
| 09:46.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:46.29 | nevcairiel | vhaarr is really bored :P |
| 09:46.33 | vhaarr | :( |
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| 09:46.54 | nevcairiel | go write a new comm module for bigwigs, with syncing who is broadcasting! |
| 09:47.20 | vhaarr | why would that be useful? |
| 09:47.48 | nevcairiel | so that i dont have to scream at all other A people to turn broadcasting off :x |
| 09:48.04 | vhaarr | aha |
| 09:48.43 | nevcairiel | its really annoying for anyone without bossblock if 3 people broadcast to raid :) |
| 09:48.53 | vhaarr | well it's not hard to do, but I don't think it's worth the effort, hrm |
| 09:48.56 | Azurewrath | mhm.. just force everyone to install BigWigs and switch off broadcasting? :) |
| 09:49.20 | nevcairiel | we tried that, wont work |
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| 09:49.20 | Azurewrath | try minus dkp <3 |
| 09:49.24 | vhaarr | lol |
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| 09:49.31 | nevcairiel | our officers are too liberal for that.. |
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| 09:49.38 | nevcairiel | i am only raid lead .. not guild lead :P |
| 09:49.58 | Mikk | vhaarr: Bored? I can do some ninjacommits to stuff without asking for permission first and then you can run around and fret about what damage I'm causing, how's that? =) |
| 09:50.11 | vhaarr | Mikk: that's fine! |
| 09:50.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:50.15 | vhaarr | <3 ninjacommits |
| 09:50.16 | Mikk | damnit |
| 09:50.40 | Azurewrath | tell them that.. mhm.. that people can react faster with the timer Bars from BigWigs.. and use minus dkp ;) |
| 09:50.58 | Daemona | yeah Mikk and dont forget the comments "my ninjitFU is stronger than yours." |
| 09:51.00 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: how should it prioritize people? |
| 09:51.10 | Mikk | ohwait i wasn't gonna warn first |
| 09:51.11 | Mikk | damnit |
| 09:52.10 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: version, if same, random :P |
| 09:52.17 | nevcairiel | how comes first, serves :P |
| 09:52.19 | nevcairiel | *who |
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| 09:59.47 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r42012 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.toc libs/): |
| 09:59.47 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 09:59.47 | CIA-22 | - added reference to Ace forum, |
| 09:59.47 | CIA-22 | - missing externals. |
| 10:00.42 | evl | Why is it so that everytime you commit something to SVN |
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| 10:01.07 | evl | people expect you to add all the features they request and generally give support on every possible little matter |
| 10:01.27 | Mikk | they're spoiled :P |
| 10:01.30 | nevcairiel | thats just the way it is |
| 10:01.50 | Mikk | oh and every addon in one category needs to do everything that all other addons in that category can |
| 10:01.55 | Mikk | for infinate bloat and great justice! |
| 10:02.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | We need a single overarching modular addon that does everything! |
| 10:03.06 | Mikk | that's certainly what the users want :P |
| 10:03.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | Which is totally not the same as having different addons that you can enable/disable to do everything! |
| 10:03.19 | Mikk | but, tbh, there should be more cooperation going on imo |
| 10:03.35 | Kirkburn|sleep | Gerroff my land! |
| 10:03.42 | Mikk | a lot of the time, it seems that a whole new addon is started just to add one or two little things that isn't in the alternative, and that the alternative wouldn't mind having either |
| 10:04.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | I knew I'd forgotten something |
| 10:05.14 | Iceroth | :D |
| 10:07.44 | Mikk | Mikk: Oi, stop impersonating me! |
| 10:07.44 | Mikk | Mikk: sod off! |
| 10:07.44 | abbat-w | btw guys someone already create addon like 'autoexec.bat'? with some lua code for initial execution? |
| 10:07.47 | Mikk | Tinypad / Omnibus |
| 10:07.51 | abbat-w | for example for register new objects with shared media etc |
| 10:07.51 | Mikk | LuaSlinger |
| 10:08.12 | abbat-w | Mikk :-* |
| 10:08.13 | Mikk | That's what we call "a new addon" :> |
| 10:10.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | Gonna try resetting my router for the net problem, brb |
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| 10:11.49 | Kirkburn | fail |
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| 10:13.25 | Kirkburn | Er, how am I still connected despite unplugging my modem for about 10 seconds |
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| 10:13.39 | kbh | magic! |
| 10:13.43 | Kirkburn | (from power, not from the net, obviously) |
| 10:13.47 | Mikk | if your modem doesn't track tcp states, easy |
| 10:14.16 | Kirkburn | I think we have a static IP, so doing this probably won't help |
| 10:14.28 | Kirkburn | *shock* it didn't |
| 10:15.21 | Wobin | hehe |
| 10:15.27 | Wobin | you're connecting WITH YUOR MIND |
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| 10:16.09 | Kirkburn | Btw, there's been news on the Warcraft movie |
| 10:16.12 | Kirkburn | It's still on :) |
| 10:17.22 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/27/thomas-tull-on-the-world-of-warcraft-movie/ |
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| 10:19.25 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42013 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0: Merge Mikk's branch with a few wording changes, adds support for deleting profiles. |
| 10:19.48 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42014 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0: Merge Mikk's branch. Adds multilevel passing group support and numeric option key support. |
| 10:20.26 | abbat-w | hmm... someone make animations for MSBT? |
| 10:21.22 | Gandharva | To rename a mod, does it work to just rename the main folder and then commit? Or are there problems with the pathname then? |
| 10:21.46 | vhaarr | svn relocate? |
| 10:21.56 | vhaarr | or is it move |
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| 10:23.11 | cryogen | move |
| 10:23.31 | phyber | no way, I'm in the flame wreath. I will not blow up the channel! |
| 10:23.59 | cryogen | no, you're the bomb! |
| 10:24.11 | phyber | :o |
| 10:24.12 | Gandharva | Hm, no move option... switch? |
| 10:24.40 | Arrowmaster | i cant wait until blizzard adds some fight with both of those, because we all know they will someday |
| 10:24.50 | simeng | Gandharva: move (mv, rename, ren) |
| 10:24.51 | phyber | Gandharva: look closer, there is. |
| 10:25.37 | cryogen | not switch |
| 10:25.45 | cryogen | switch is something totally different :) |
| 10:25.46 | ilifin | flame wreath with bombs while having to dive underwater to hide from watersprout with adds on islands shooting you with random knockbacks and aoe aura ticking for 1.2k |
| 10:26.02 | Arrowmaster | haha yeah |
| 10:26.09 | Arrowmaster | that will be a cool fight |
| 10:26.24 | Gandharva | phyber: I'm using TortoiseSVN. No move option |
| 10:26.24 | ilifin | name it, Netherflames Below! |
| 10:26.35 | Gandharva | Or I'm blind |
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| 10:27.31 | kbh | aran would be hard enough if he did a handful of instnats |
| 10:27.33 | vhaarr | Gandharva: Then get the commandline version :P |
| 10:28.02 | kbh | imagine aran with coc/db |
| 10:28.04 | Gandharva | *brrr* |
| 10:28.09 | ilifin | aran would be funnier if the flame wreaths randomly moved on the floor |
| 10:28.15 | ilifin | in order to make the fight as random as malchezzar |
| 10:28.19 | Arrowmaster | aran used to have dragons breath.... |
| 10:28.28 | vhaarr | DB was nothing |
| 10:28.30 | vhaarr | can be dispelled |
| 10:29.00 | Gandharva | hm, relocate gives me the option to specify a new path. maybe I'll try this. |
| 10:29.10 | vhaarr | I don't think it's relocate |
| 10:29.23 | vhaarr | relocate is when you want to relocate your working copy to another repository |
| 10:29.23 | dodgizzla | relocate is for when the remote repository changed |
| 10:29.25 | vhaarr | afaik |
| 10:29.27 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:29.35 | dodgizzla | e.g. the hostname or the path changed |
| 10:29.50 | kbh | man, remember when curator mana burned? |
| 10:29.58 | simeng | thougt tortisesvn just did stuff like that automagicly when you changed it in the windows shell |
| 10:30.20 | Gandharva | then it must be switch |
| 10:30.21 | Arrowmaster | curator mana burned? |
| 10:30.30 | kbh | his adds did |
| 10:30.32 | Gandharva | there is no other option |
| 10:30.33 | Arrowmaster | switch is the same as relocate |
| 10:30.57 | Gandharva | 2 options for the same thing. don't think so... |
| 10:31.09 | JoshBorke | switch is not the same as relocate |
| 10:31.13 | Arrowmaster | then check the help files |
| 10:32.06 | JoshBorke | relocate is an option on switch |
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| 10:33.17 | Iceroth | couldn't it be simply rename to dir and commit? |
| 10:33.24 | Iceroth | s/to/the/ |
| 10:33.26 | JoshBorke | regular switch is for changing between a directories where-as relocate is when the URL of the repo changes |
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| 10:34.57 | Arrowmaster | using svn move keeps the history between the two directorys, just renaming the dir can commiting doesnt |
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| 10:42.35 | Mikk | "svn move" also deletes the old directory for you, and is lots faster |
| 10:42.45 | Mikk | On a sidenote, "Rename" in Tortoise is actually "svn move" |
| 10:43.08 | Mikk | So you can do all sorts of funky stuff in it, including "renaming" "somedir" to "../SomeOtherAddon/somedir" |
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| 10:49.51 | Gandharva | Mikk: TortoiseSVN only gives me the rename option on files/folders inside the main folder. But not for the main folder itself. |
| 10:50.39 | Gandharva | Switch, Merge, Export, Relocate |
| 10:51.02 | nevcairiel | you would have to checkout the top folder too, to make it work |
| 10:51.04 | JoshBorke | Gandharva: do it in the repo browser |
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| 10:54.19 | Mikk | ugh, never check out the main folder |
| 10:54.23 | Mikk | go with what JoshBorke is saying |
| 10:54.40 | JoshBorke | /flex |
| 10:54.51 | nevcairiel | you can checkout the top folder without actually checking out all addons in it |
| 10:55.08 | Mikk | yeah.. and then you hit update and all hell break lose :P |
| 10:55.15 | nevcairiel | "Only checkout top folder" in tortoise :P |
| 10:55.26 | Gandharva | Ah, is Bridle a good name for MountMe? Tekkup want's it renamed. |
| 10:55.40 | Mikk | If you want people to not use it, sure |
| 10:55.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [Ammo]] by ChanServ |
| 10:55.56 | Gandharva | Mikk: Then give me alternatives |
| 10:56.41 | Mikk | MountUp .. Mounter .. MountMagic .... |
| 10:56.49 | Mikk | Anything with "Mount" in it is good =) |
| 10:57.21 | Gandharva | MountUp |
| 10:57.52 | JoshBorke | i personally like Bridle |
| 10:57.55 | Kirkburn | The world's fastest and longest zip line! http://www.influks.com/post1350.html |
| 10:57.56 | JoshBorke | or what about SaddleUp |
| 10:58.13 | Mikk | ctrl+f still won't find "saddle" :P |
| 10:58.14 | Kirkburn | RideEm |
| 10:58.26 | NimbleRabit | what's a good bag mod? Don't want to have to sift through the wowace files only to download one that isn't updated anymore =P |
| 10:58.36 | kbh | sanitybags! |
| 10:58.45 | Mikk | ArkInventory, SanityBags, Baggins |
| 10:59.16 | JoshBorke | one bag |
| 10:59.27 | Mikk | Baggins is the one with the most powerful sorting, but it's also somewhat of a horse to setup atm |
| 10:59.40 | [Ammo] | OneBag if you just want an all in one style thing |
| 10:59.56 | Mikk | Me hates all-in-one-jumbled. Useless >.< |
| 11:00.04 | Gandharva | JoshBorke: 2 vs. 1 -> Let's go Bridle :) |
| 11:00.32 | Mikk | MountEm? =) |
| 11:00.49 | [Ammo] | MountEm |
| 11:00.52 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 11:01.03 | [Ammo] | YouNoTakeMount |
| 11:01.17 | nevcairiel | MountMe -> EmTnuom |
| 11:01.26 | Kirkburn | Is there an addon called Cowboy? |
| 11:01.26 | Gandharva | xD |
| 11:01.56 | Mikk | QuickMount, FastMount |
| 11:01.58 | Gandharva | Cowboy would be a nice name |
| 11:02.08 | Kirkburn | Stirrup |
| 11:02.10 | Mikk | sigh @ three-steps-removed naming |
| 11:02.17 | Mikk | Your loss :P |
| 11:02.28 | Kirkburn | C'mon, more horsie words! |
| 11:02.53 | Kirkburn | Gallop |
| 11:03.07 | Kirkburn | (that's a "fast mount") |
| 11:03.08 | Gandharva | mare |
| 11:03.18 | Mikk | Yes! Gallop! Great word! I search for that all the time when I look for mount addons! |
| 11:03.39 | abbat-w | rophy, btw, you ask me about combat log with spellsteal |
| 11:03.55 | Kirkburn | Trot, Canter, er, AddonforMountingOneself |
| 11:04.00 | abbat-w | rophy, so, i write some bg's logs for you ;) |
| 11:04.17 | Mikk | Fubar_MountFu <- instant sell |
| 11:04.19 | [Ammo] | lets just call it MountFu |
| 11:04.20 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 11:04.21 | rophy | abbat-w: cool |
| 11:04.23 | Kirkburn | MountUp |
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| 11:04.34 | zirah | mm lighty ärgert mich |
| 11:04.35 | Kirkburn | Mounting, Mountain |
| 11:04.40 | abbat-w | rophy, if you need i can sent it to you |
| 11:04.47 | zirah | upps sorry wrong channel |
| 11:04.50 | zirah | hi |
| 11:04.58 | rophy | sure, please send to rophy123@gmail.com |
| 11:05.02 | Gandharva | zirah: armer zirah, ärgert er dich... ^^ |
| 11:05.06 | rophy | thank you |
| 11:06.02 | zirah | Gandharva: lighty = lighttpd - a webserver software :-) |
| 11:06.23 | abbat-w | rophy, done |
| 11:06.50 | Gandharva | doh |
| 11:07.16 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42015 10/trunk/ (MountMe/ MountUp/): Renamed remotely |
| 11:08.06 | rophy | "You steal Dopske's Power Word: Fortitude." -> "Power Word: Fortitude fades from Dopske." -> "You gain Power Word: Fortitude." |
| 11:08.11 | Kirkburn | Aww, damn I wasn't first to say MountUp |
| 11:08.26 | rophy | so I think the spell steal message itself can be treated as a dispel message? |
| 11:08.47 | rophy | something like dispel target -> target loses buff -> source gains buff |
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| 11:10.01 | rophy | anyway thanks abbat-w, that's exactly what I needed to know, <3 |
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| 11:11.37 | Dhraga | Are there any way to display debuffs like arcane or shadow on grid ? like some boss debuffs give you or trash mobs |
| 11:15.24 | Matrix110 | This is not intended to be shown on grid Oo |
| 11:15.33 | Matrix110 | orwait |
| 11:15.34 | Matrix110 | nvm |
| 11:15.45 | Matrix110 | You want to see debuffs on the raid |
| 11:15.56 | Matrix110 | Thats possible of course |
| 11:15.58 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42016 10oRA2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): oRA2: Tanks: Option table cleanups. |
| 11:16.29 | Matrix110 | You can let for example show the Debuff Icon on the person and let the border go red if they gain a debuff you can cure. |
| 11:16.57 | Dhraga | Matrix110, yes I want to watch the raid for debuffs (even though not cleansable) |
| 11:17.25 | Matrix110 | Oh not cleansable debuffs, aslong as they are cleansable atall they can be displayed |
| 11:17.39 | Matrix110 | but if they arent Magic/Curse/Disease etc. you cant show them afaik |
| 11:18.43 | Legorol | morning |
| 11:18.53 | Legorol | anyone else who uses Cartographer, i have a small issue: |
| 11:18.53 | Dhraga | Awww, thats a shame... it would be great to have an option both for the borde and the icon to show debuff type: others. |
| 11:19.03 | Dhraga | On the grid |
| 11:19.09 | Legorol | When I press M to display the map, the rest of the UI gets hidden. Any idea if this is a bug or intentional? |
| 11:20.08 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42017 10MountUp/ (7 files in 2 dirs): MountUp - actually renamed all occurrences of MountMe to MountUp |
| 11:21.10 | Kirkburn | lol - http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=54522&in_page_id=2 |
| 11:21.26 | Mikk | Legorol: _hidden_? |
| 11:21.30 | Mikk | That's certainly not intentional |
| 11:21.40 | Mikk | You can ctrl+mousewheel on it to make it bigger and smaller |
| 11:21.50 | Mikk | And shift+mousewheel to change UI transparency |
| 11:22.07 | Mikk | The whole idea is that you should be able to have a profile with it riding in a corner of the screen and have all your UI work normally |
| 11:22.28 | Legorol | yah i figured that much |
| 11:22.34 | Legorol | and it used to work like that, recently it doesn't |
| 11:22.40 | Mikk | :S |
| 11:22.43 | Kirkburn | LOL http://roflsaurus.com/users/public/w42728problems49.jpg |
| 11:22.45 | Legorol | i'm not necessarily saying it's a carto issue, was just trying to see if others had it too |
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| 11:22.53 | Mikk | i can certainly update and test |
| 11:22.55 | Legorol | if others don't have it, then it's clearly some addon conflict on my end |
| 11:23.05 | JoshBorke | user error imo ;-P |
| 11:23.10 | Legorol | by "hidden" i mean genuinely :Hide() on the rest of the UI |
| 11:23.21 | Legorol | only the map is visible, and the game world |
| 11:23.40 | abbat-w | rophy, spellsteal is actually dispel |
| 11:23.41 | nevcairiel | lol Kirkburn |
| 11:24.20 | abbat-w | rophy, you can test messages if you ask warrior to use reflect and try to spellsteal something from them |
| 11:24.33 | Gandharva | nevcairiel: grml, you were faster... |
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| 11:24.58 | JoshBorke | lol, that's great kirkburn |
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| 11:25.07 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 11:25.26 | Mikk | Legorol: nop, nothing disappearing on my end |
| 11:25.55 | Legorol | ok then i'll do the logout/disable/login/swear/loop routine |
| 11:26.04 | Mikk | gl hf =) |
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| 11:26.18 | Mikk | or install rMCP for easier fiddling |
| 11:26.45 | Kirkburn | (the letter is from Viz - http://www.viz.co.uk/ ) |
| 11:28.30 | Kirkburn | How do you solve this? http://taint.org/x/2007/cake-maze.jpg |
| 11:29.03 | evl | Kirkburn: go around the edge |
| 11:29.13 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 11:29.26 | Kirkburn | You can solve it in about 2 mins with photoshop |
| 11:29.41 | Wobin | http://www.metro.co.uk/media/viral.html?in_page_id=55&in_mediaext_item_id=9161 |
| 11:29.43 | Kirkburn | http://taint.org/2007/06/19/121541a.html |
| 11:30.05 | evl | Kirkburn: magic wand? :P |
| 11:30.20 | Kirkburn | Mgic wand indeed |
| 11:30.20 | Mikk | lmao "Tourette's juice" |
| 11:31.19 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42018 10MountUp/ (6 files): |
| 11:31.20 | CIA-22 | MountUp: |
| 11:31.20 | CIA-22 | - use embeds.xml |
| 11:31.20 | CIA-22 | - added self.revision |
| 11:31.20 | CIA-22 | - added self.version |
| 11:31.52 | Mikk | WTB keybind |
| 11:34.59 | Kirkburn | Meet Eclyse the zorse - http://arbroath.blogspot.com/2007/06/meet-eclyse-zorse.html |
| 11:35.06 | Kirkburn | (and yes, it's real) |
| 11:40.49 | Kirkburn | Note to self: check milk is fresh BEFORE pouring it over your cereal |
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| 11:42.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:42.27 | nevcairiel | poor cereals |
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| 11:46.42 | Iceroth | why does omen show in AV O.o |
| 11:46.48 | [Ammo] | Mikk: OnClick |
| 11:47.02 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42019 10MountUp/ (Core.lua EzDismount.lua ItemSwap.lua MountUp.toc embeds.xml): |
| 11:47.02 | CIA-22 | MountUp: |
| 11:47.02 | CIA-22 | - forgot to set 'svn:keywords Revision' |
| 11:47.05 | [Ammo] | Iceroth: AV is glorified pve |
| 11:47.52 | Iceroth | even so :) |
| 11:48.33 | [Ammo] | but I don't think Omen has any settings so it just shows regardless |
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| 11:51.18 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42020 10MountUp/Core.lua: |
| 11:51.18 | CIA-22 | MountUp: |
| 11:51.18 | CIA-22 | - changed ChatCommand to '/mu' and '/mountup' |
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| 11:57.06 | somber | yoyo guys |
| 11:58.23 | kbh | hmm... any way of showing what i spellsteal in a mod/sct |
| 11:59.03 | Mikk | there we go.. candybar wiki page all purdy |
| 12:00.27 | [Ammo] | time to add 'show in group' to violation |
| 12:02.16 | Mikk | Change the "Show Windows" toggle then |
| 12:02.37 | Mikk | Or.. hm.. |
| 12:03.20 | Mikk | No, that needs to be a temporary on/off |
| 12:03.36 | [Ammo] | adding a generic toggle |
| 12:03.44 | [Ammo] | that basically just does the same as the fubar onclick |
| 12:03.49 | Mikk | But you could have "Show When->[x] Group [x] Raid [x] etc" which affects showWindows |
| 12:04.01 | [Ammo] | I don't care for party or raid |
| 12:04.01 | Mikk | Show Windows is the same as fubar onclick |
| 12:04.05 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:04.38 | Mikk | I'm just saying what you probably want to do is just muck with showWindows and not have a second variable that also controls visibiliity |
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| 12:05.20 | [Ammo] | guess what I'm doing |
| 12:05.33 | Mikk | No, what? |
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| 12:07.40 | Gngsk | is there a way to specify putting an item in the offhand when using /equip ? |
| 12:10.30 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r42021 10Mendeleev/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:10.30 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 12:10.30 | CIA-22 | - use embeds.xml |
| 12:13.56 | Josh_Borke | you're weird mikk |
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| 12:16.58 | somber | any MacBook Pro users online? |
| 12:16.59 | Legorol | Mikk: managed to track down the addon that was conflicting, and started tracking down the issue. It's wierd though |
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| 12:17.12 | Legorol | i don't suppose ckknight_ is around |
| 12:17.29 | somber | damn... i got 6-7 FPS once i move |
| 12:17.32 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r42022 10ArkInventory/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:17.32 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 12:17.32 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-28-21-45 |
| 12:17.39 | somber | i dunno what to do |
| 12:18.03 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42023 10oRA2/ (15 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: More option table cleanup. |
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| 12:18.53 | CIA-22 | 03flyflame * r42024 10Violation/ (Violation.toc locales/zhCN.lua): Violation: update zhCN locals |
| 12:19.53 | Mikk | [Ammo]: i don't suppose you can give SetCandyBarOnClick a gruop name? |
| 12:21.06 | Josh_Borke | Legorol: gief more details |
| 12:21.13 | Legorol | sure |
| 12:21.19 | Legorol | the conflicting addon is QuestHistory |
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| 12:21.30 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 12:21.32 | Legorol | i have tracked down the conflict to the fact that QH has these two lines: |
| 12:21.34 | Legorol | ShowUIPanel(WorldMapFrame); |
| 12:21.35 | Legorol | HideUIPanel(WorldMapFrame); |
| 12:21.43 | Josh_Borke | why does he do that :-( |
| 12:21.45 | Legorol | actually let me pastey the context |
| 12:21.50 | [Ammo] | Mikk: indeed |
| 12:22.09 | Josh_Borke | oh i know why he does that. he's pushing all the other uipanels off so that he can show his frame |
| 12:22.30 | Legorol | http://www.pastey.net/69993 |
| 12:22.56 | Legorol | that's the only reference to WorldMapFrame in the entire QuestHistory addon |
| 12:23.04 | Legorol | if i uncomment that section, i don't have the Carto problems mentioned |
| 12:23.15 | [Ammo] | hmm Mikk, messing with showWindows gives weird behaviour |
| 12:23.16 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
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| 12:23.22 | [Ammo] | it works |
| 12:23.25 | Legorol | since this is not a Carto or ace problem, i'm going over to the lounge |
| 12:23.46 | Mikk | [Ammo]: define weird? |
| 12:24.01 | [Ammo] | if you're not grouped and toggle 'show grouped' it'll remove your windows |
| 12:24.06 | [Ammo] | or rather hide them |
| 12:24.11 | [Ammo] | then you click show grouped off again |
| 12:24.14 | [Ammo] | but it won't show them again |
| 12:24.22 | [Ammo] | since db.showWindows is toggled ;p |
| 12:24.36 | [Ammo] | but I guess that's expected behaviour |
| 12:24.45 | Mikk | yeah you probably want to reenable showWindows at that point |
| 12:25.03 | [Ammo] | do I? |
| 12:25.09 | [Ammo] | hmm I probably do |
| 12:25.10 | [Ammo] | will do |
| 12:25.12 | Mikk | i think so |
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| 12:26.58 | [Ammo] | yeah, works fine now |
| 12:27.19 | Legorol | aha, i tracked down the problem, it is actually Carto's fault |
| 12:27.22 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42025 10Violation/ (Violation.lua locales/enUS.lua): Violation: add option to toggle windows based on grouped or not |
| 12:27.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
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| 12:28.46 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r42026 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 12:28.46 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 12:28.46 | CIA-22 | - adding Cellular compatibility (needs testing) |
| 12:28.55 | Legorol | can someone suggest to me how best i should direct bug reports to ckknight, about Cartographer? |
| 12:29.03 | Legorol | where is the most appropriate place to post bugs? |
| 12:29.08 | Josh_Borke | the forums |
| 12:29.22 | Legorol | which forums? |
| 12:29.24 | Josh_Borke | Legorol: where so in carto? |
| 12:29.25 | Josh_Borke | wowace |
| 12:29.35 | Legorol | ok, i will try to find the wowace forums |
| 12:29.47 | Litvan | think he prefers his wowinterface portal for bug submissions |
| 12:30.19 | Mikk | Legorol: Or someone here ninjacommits a fix if you know what's up |
| 12:30.26 | Mikk | :P |
| 12:30.56 | Legorol | yeah let me just make sure i got it 100% and got it right |
| 12:30.58 | Legorol | still testing something |
| 12:31.40 | Legorol | btw, does anyone know why Carto does a reload UI when i enable/disable Look'n'feel? |
| 12:31.53 | Mikk | don't disable looknfeel :> |
| 12:32.11 | Mikk | (hrmz, i was sure i nuked enable/disable from looknfeel...) |
| 12:32.36 | Legorol | Mikk: well it's there, and it does a reloadui |
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| 12:32.49 | Mikk | Legorol: Whoa. It certainly didn't use to do that |
| 12:32.52 | Legorol | line 444 in LookNFeel.lua, in the version up on files.wowace |
| 12:32.57 | [Ammo] | alt-click?! |
| 12:33.02 | [Ammo] | no way jose |
| 12:33.07 | Mikk | orly? |
| 12:33.11 | [Ammo] | why? |
| 12:33.20 | Mikk | alt+rightclick for menu, alt+drag to drag |
| 12:33.40 | Legorol | ok, here is the issue as far as i can see it: |
| 12:33.47 | Josh_Borke | what's line 444? |
| 12:33.50 | Josh_Borke | no line numbers ftl |
| 12:33.52 | [Ammo] | no need mikk |
| 12:33.52 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 12:33.57 | Mikk | of course it isn't _needed_ |
| 12:34.09 | Legorol | in Cartographer_LookNFeel:OnEnable, see line 520: UIPanelWindows["WorldMapFrame"] = nil |
| 12:34.10 | [Ammo] | it useless bloat |
| 12:34.15 | Mikk | but finding the settings in bigwigs is a 15 minute job the first time you use it |
| 12:34.31 | Legorol | on the face of it, this is sufficient to stop the world map from being a fullscreen affair (thus hiding the rest of the UI when opened) |
| 12:34.32 | Josh_Borke | wahahahahahaa |
| 12:34.48 | Legorol | unfortunately, nowadays the UIPanel code in UIParent.lua also uses Attributes |
| 12:34.58 | Legorol | see GetUIPanelWindowInfo in UIParent.lua |
| 12:35.24 | Legorol | if another addon has already shown the worldmapframe prior to Cartographer_LookNFeel:OnEnable being called, then the attributes get set on WorldMapFrame |
| 12:35.28 | Legorol | which are not cleared by Cartographer_LookNFeel:OnEnable |
| 12:36.01 | [Ammo] | Mikk: the bars are also specifically clickthrough because they usually appear in the middle of your screan |
| 12:36.05 | [Ammo] | screen even |
| 12:36.08 | [Ammo] | so don't add that |
| 12:36.19 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Hence why they're only clickable while alt is held down |
| 12:36.21 | [Ammo] | or I'll just ninjaremove it |
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| 12:36.42 | Legorol | so my question still stands: where do i report the bug |
| 12:37.33 | Legorol | suggested fix: together with UIPanelWindows["WorldMapFrame"] = nil on line 520, also make sure to clear any attributes set on WorldMapFrame |
| 12:38.19 | Legorol | the attributes to be cleared are UIPanelLayout-defined, UIPanelLayout-enabled, UIPanelLayout-area, UIPanelLayout-pushable, UIPanelLayout-whiledead |
| 12:38.33 | Legorol | see GetUIPanelWindowInfo in UIParent.lua as to why |
| 12:39.09 | Legorol | actually, |
| 12:39.21 | Legorol | it's easier to just set the attribute UIPanelLayout-enabled to false on WorldMapFrame |
| 12:39.25 | Legorol | i think that's how it's intended to be used |
| 12:39.50 | Legorol | that removes WorldMapFrame from under the control of the Blizz UIPanel management code, as far as i can see |
| 12:40.00 | Mikk | have you tested this locally or do I need to go get QH and make sure the load order is right etc etc? |
| 12:40.12 | Mikk | so i can see if it even helps, i mean |
| 12:41.08 | Mikk | (where the hell are you finding these attributes btw? i'm grepping all of framexml and not finding it) |
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| 12:41.24 | Legorol | i'm going to test it now |
| 12:41.24 | nevcairiel | it was somewhere in the changes thread |
| 12:41.31 | Legorol | Mikk: more explanation incoming in a sec |
| 12:41.43 | Legorol | i'm just going to test the fix |
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| 12:42.01 | Legorol | Explanation: |
| 12:42.08 | Legorol | Start by looking at UIParent.lua |
| 12:42.14 | nevcairiel | Mikk: http://ace.pastey.net/69995 |
| 12:42.32 | Legorol | UIPanelWindows table is populated by values that control a window's behaviour whilst under the UIPanel management code |
| 12:42.35 | Mikk | weird.. my find in files didn't find that |
| 12:42.39 | Legorol | e.g. UIPanelWindows["WorldMapFrame"] ={ area = "full",pushable = 0,whileDead = 1 }; |
| 12:43.01 | Legorol | now from here, what happens is that the first time you call ShowUIPanel(World |
| 12:43.06 | Legorol | now from here, what happens is that the first time you call ShowUIPanel(WorldMapFrame), |
| 12:43.21 | Legorol | GetUIPanelWindowInfo is called |
| 12:43.40 | Legorol | if this is the first time GetUIPanelWindowInfo is called with WorldMapFrame, it populates a series of attributes on WorldMapFrame |
| 12:43.45 | Legorol | see the code of GetUIPanelWindowInfo in UIParent.lua |
| 12:43.51 | Mikk | yeah, looking at it now |
| 12:43.55 | Legorol | the attributes are populated based on the values in UIPanelWindows["WorldMapFrame"] |
| 12:44.18 | Legorol | yup, i can confirm, the fix works |
| 12:44.35 | Legorol | the fix: |
| 12:44.46 | Legorol | LookNFeel.lua, line 520, change it to: |
| 12:44.47 | Legorol | UIPanelWindows["WorldMapFrame"] = nil |
| 12:44.47 | Legorol | WorldMapFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-enabled", false) |
| 12:44.51 | Mikk | UIPanelWindows["WorldMapFrame"] = nil |
| 12:44.52 | Mikk | WorldMapFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-enabled", false); |
| 12:45.02 | Legorol | similarly, line 749, change it to: |
| 12:45.02 | Legorol | UIPanelWindows["WorldMapFrame"] = { whileDead=1, area="full", pushable=0 } |
| 12:45.03 | Legorol | WorldMapFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-enabled", true) |
| 12:45.05 | Mikk | ohnoes, i have an unnecessary semicolon :S |
| 12:45.14 | Legorol | lol |
| 12:45.28 | nevcairiel | at least strip the boxes when you paste in chat |
| 12:45.28 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:45.35 | Legorol | what boxes? |
| 12:45.42 | ben | The tab characters. |
| 12:45.50 | Legorol | they are not showing up for me |
| 12:45.52 | Mikk | pardon. I don't see those at all. |
| 12:45.53 | omega_ | use a nopaste service? |
| 12:45.59 | Mikk | not for two lines >.< |
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| 12:46.05 | Legorol | i dont' see those either |
| 12:46.29 | Legorol | anyhoo that did the trick for me |
| 12:46.36 | Legorol | so i'm a happy camper |
| 12:46.44 | Legorol | so where do i go to report this to ckknight? |
| 12:46.49 | Mikk | just doing a quick test here and them committing |
| 12:46.52 | Legorol | still forums? |
| 12:46.58 | Legorol | ah |
| 12:47.01 | Mikk | if you want.. but the fix is going in :P |
| 12:47.02 | nevcairiel | no worries, mikk will fix it :P |
| 12:47.03 | Legorol | you have the powah to do that, cool |
| 12:47.10 | Legorol | well i wanted to attach explanation |
| 12:47.18 | Legorol | beyond the one-line comment in an svn commit |
| 12:47.36 | Legorol | if it were my addon, i'd go nuts if someone commited a fix with a one-line comment |
| 12:48.43 | Legorol | but Mikk subverted the attempt :P |
| 12:48.52 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r42027 10Fizzlebag/ (. Core.lua Fizzlebag.toc): |
| 12:48.52 | CIA-22 | Fizzlebag: |
| 12:48.52 | CIA-22 | - Fizzle for bag/bank items |
| 12:48.52 | CIA-22 | - Puts a border around each item and colors it depending on quality :) |
| 12:50.39 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42028 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: |
| 12:50.39 | CIA-22 | Cartographer: |
| 12:50.39 | CIA-22 | - Also do WorldMapFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-enabled, false) when |
| 12:50.39 | CIA-22 | removing the WorldMapFrame from UIPanel's control. As of late, this is the |
| 12:50.39 | CIA-22 | attribute that the UIPanel code looks at to determine if a frame is under its |
| 12:50.40 | CIA-22 | control. |
| 12:50.42 | CIA-22 | Normally, this does not cause problems, but if the map is shown prior to Carto loading, these attributes get set. QuestHistory does a quick show+hide on startup, and hey presto, bug. |
| 12:51.02 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r42029 10Fizzlebag/: |
| 12:51.02 | CIA-22 | Fizzlebag: |
| 12:51.02 | CIA-22 | -Externals set |
| 12:51.18 | Legorol | Mikk: did you also do a WorldMapFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-enabled", true)? |
| 12:51.23 | Legorol | and thanks a lot for the fix |
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| 12:51.26 | Mikk | Legorol: yus |
| 12:51.34 | Mikk | The fix should be up on files.wowace in 10 minutes |
| 12:52.05 | Legorol | it's already in mine locally :P |
| 12:52.09 | Mikk | aye ;) |
| 12:52.54 | Legorol | and voila! i can link instance loot again, i'm happy |
| 12:53.05 | Legorol | it was annoying that the rest of the UI hid when i opened map :D |
| 12:53.09 | Mikk | hehe |
| 12:53.53 | [Ammo] | guess this is the same problem someone in my guild reported last night about being unable to click instanceloot stuff |
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| 12:55.04 | Uhuru | hi |
| 12:55.26 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42030 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Core: Get rid of the table creation in CHAT_MSG_ADDON. |
| 12:56.06 | Uhuru | someone knwo an add on to maintain a black list of players to not group with ? with possibility to add a comment and maybe a warning appear if one of these player is in the party |
| 12:57.47 | Gngsk | Uhuru, sounds like something that could be incorporated into the ignore list |
| 12:58.08 | Mikk | IgnoreMore lets you set comments for ignored people |
| 12:58.14 | Mikk | doesn't warn if they're in the party though |
| 12:59.29 | [Ammo] | you don't get drag |
| 12:59.40 | Mikk | no, would have been handy with mousedown tho :S |
| 12:59.42 | [Ammo] | besides that change is not going to make it into bigwigs |
| 12:59.54 | [Ammo] | because if you EnableMouse() -> no clicks go through |
| 13:00.23 | Mikk | Yus, I already explained that the bars are only mouse enabled while alt is depressed. And that'll be settingsable too. |
| 13:00.47 | Mikk | about a dozen lines of code for a big happy slew of user friendliness |
| 13:01.00 | [Ammo] | blargh |
| 13:01.12 | nevcairiel | shouldnt the addon using candybar care about positioning them? |
| 13:01.23 | Mikk | i see you haven't had guildies that have cursed about "those damn bars in the middle of the screen" |
| 13:01.24 | ben | This warning thing is intriguing. It needs to hook into pitbull and change their portraits to a warning sign. |
| 13:01.26 | nevcairiel | not candybar itself? |
| 13:01.36 | [Ammo] | I tell them to do plugins -> bars -> anchor |
| 13:01.38 | Mikk | nevcairiel: correct |
| 13:01.38 | [Ammo] | and stfu :p |
| 13:02.17 | Mikk | yer, but those that have learned to go Extras -> Custom Bars -> 123 blahblah expect the setting to live in Extras |
| 13:02.40 | [Ammo] | those are retards and should go use DBM |
| 13:02.44 | Mikk | hahahaha |
| 13:02.53 | [Ammo] | tell em I said so |
| 13:02.58 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:03.02 | [Ammo] | they are not worthy |
| 13:03.05 | Mikk | lal |
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| 13:10.07 | Gngsk | well, that's a first |
| 13:10.19 | Gngsk | just saw someone looking for holy priest dps in LFG |
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| 13:11.27 | Moltarain | hehe |
| 13:11.29 | Mikk | that's also a bit outdated |
| 13:11.37 | Mikk | holy priest dps was WOO BLOODY HOO at 60 |
| 13:11.39 | Moltarain | Gngsk: im holy. i do like 1500/smite :P |
| 13:11.41 | Mikk | but shadow kinda pwns it now |
| 13:12.02 | Moltarain | and im emp heal spec :D |
| 13:12.11 | Gngsk | well yeah, I'm not saying holy priests can't dps. but that's definitely the first time I've ever seen someone actively pursue one |
| 13:12.18 | cryogen | lol |
| 13:12.28 | cryogen | lfg for what exactly? |
| 13:12.32 | Gngsk | RFD |
| 13:12.34 | Moltarain | hehe, well id say tehy going an heroic or so. |
| 13:12.35 | Mikk | seems to be someone looking for some extra healing at some point |
| 13:12.36 | Mikk | RFD? |
| 13:12.39 | Moltarain | haha |
| 13:12.39 | cryogen | haha |
| 13:12.42 | Moltarain | OMG |
| 13:12.50 | winkiller | who in their sane mind would go to RFD without a 70? |
| 13:12.59 | Moltarain | <-- screenshot on this :D |
| 13:13.00 | winkiller | that's the absolutely worst instance I know |
| 13:13.06 | Mikk | I like RFD |
| 13:13.16 | Gngsk | I enjoy running lower level instances with the designed levels |
| 13:13.20 | Mikk | just don't go there too early or you get omgwtfpwnd on the last path up to the endboss |
| 13:13.23 | cryogen | holy dps, i like it |
| 13:13.38 | Gngsk | Moltarain, are you asking me to take a screenshot? |
| 13:13.48 | Moltarain | nah i did screen this chat :D |
| 13:13.50 | winkiller | I enjoy most instances, but not RFD |
| 13:13.56 | Gngsk | ahh, kk |
| 13:14.01 | ben | I am thinking they just were not certain whether you can use Shackle Undead in shadow form |
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| 13:14.33 | Moltarain | well all should know that a spell thats not greyed in shadow works :D |
| 13:14.56 | Mikk | and if they're not playing a priest, they'd know this .... how? =P |
| 13:15.17 | Kirkburn | I live inns where you can be mounted and resting at the same time |
| 13:15.22 | Kirkburn | *LOVE |
| 13:15.25 | Kirkburn | arg caps |
| 13:15.27 | Kirkburn | arg door |
| 13:15.32 | evl | Razorfen For Downs |
| 13:15.37 | Mikk | arg briton |
| 13:16.03 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r42031 10JasonQuest/ (Comm.lua Core.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 13:16.03 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 13:16.03 | CIA-22 | - Minimap button should now only show up when other members have JQuest (or you |
| 13:16.03 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.03 | CIA-22 | - JQuest will now re-ping members who ping you and didn't have JQuest earlier |
| 13:16.03 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.04 | Moltarain | well depends, if they are new to the game i forgive them. if they been playing for a long time its like they should know.. |
| 13:16.13 | ilifin | ~whaleslap vhaarr |
| 13:16.13 | purl | ACTION beats vhaarr upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 13:16.23 | Gngsk | jaslaughter commiting to ace svn makes me all warm and fuzzy inside |
| 13:17.02 | Mikk | to be quite perfectly honest, joe random shadowpriest is too busy dotting everything that moves and melting faces to shackle stuff.. it wouldn't surprise me the least if they've simply never seen a shadowpriest shackle something |
| 13:17.31 | Moltarain | yah. sounds probably |
| 13:17.40 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
| 13:17.45 | Josh_Borke | that hurts mikk |
| 13:18.09 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r42032 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 13:18.12 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: I never called you joe random now did i :> |
| 13:18.20 | cryogen | improved shackle, 31 point holy talent |
| 13:18.36 | Mikk | Now, it's entirely true for my nub spriest that I'm levelling. I just melt faces until I people around me die. |
| 13:18.46 | Mikk | "DAMNIT! VE SHOULD BE ENOUGH! *meltmeltmelt*" |
| 13:18.50 | *** join/#wowace Leialyn (i=unknown@p54B4EC3A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:18.50 | syeren | Priests aren't allowed crowd control cryogen, don't be silly ;p |
| 13:19.05 | cryogen | aoe fear isnt enough? :p |
| 13:19.14 | syeren | Not against Deathwish warriors ;D |
| 13:19.16 | somber | ny macbook user online ? |
| 13:19.21 | Mikk | mindsoothe! |
| 13:19.21 | somber | any* |
| 13:19.42 | Josh_Borke | mind soothe should lower the distance players can see when used on them! |
| 13:20.01 | syeren | Should be able to kill off rage, would own. |
| 13:20.02 | Jagobah | that would be such a hax griefing tool |
| 13:20.07 | Josh_Borke | hahaha! |
| 13:20.09 | syeren | Give warriors -100 rage. |
| 13:20.20 | Josh_Borke | naw, it should just drop them out of zerker stance |
| 13:20.33 | Josh_Borke | mind soothe + fear ftw |
| 13:20.42 | Mikk | haha |
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| 13:28.17 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42033 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: |
| 13:28.17 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 13:28.17 | CIA-22 | - Make timer bars Alt+Clickable to get the menu. |
| 13:28.17 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.17 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.18 | CIA-22 | Fear my ninjut-FU and appreciate the value of user friendliness :> |
| 13:29.39 | phyber | does that mean I can drag them around really quick if they get in the way? |
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| 13:33.22 | Mikk | not _really_ quick, just quicker |
| 13:33.54 | Jagobah | anyone here do arenas? |
| 13:33.58 | Mikk | oi! |
| 13:35.04 | nevcairiel | Jagobah: yea |
| 13:35.24 | Shirik | fork? Disney? |
| 13:35.40 | Mikk | Shirik: didn't watch pirates of the caribbean i take it? |
| 13:35.59 | Shirik | not entirely |
| 13:36.05 | Shirik | I don't really watch movies |
| 13:36.07 | Shirik | waste of time |
| 13:36.25 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r42034 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 13:36.25 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 13:36.25 | CIA-22 | - adding WIM compatibility |
| 13:36.26 | Mikk | this is true |
| 13:36.48 | Mikk | Athou: Tbh, yank those out again and let me finish ChatHookLib |
| 13:37.02 | Mikk | That way you have leverage on the Cellular and WIM authors to implement ChatHookLib :> |
| 13:37.24 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42035 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: Skinner: fix zhCN local |
| 13:37.53 | Jagobah | I just started a 5v5 team. Have any advice to share for a team leader :) ? |
| 13:37.56 | Jagobah | I play a hunter btw |
| 13:38.24 | cryogen | Shirik: and you play wow? |
| 13:38.30 | Shirik | Jagobah: Kill people |
| 13:38.33 | [dRaCo] | get a useful class, Jagobah ;) |
| 13:38.39 | Jagobah | ='[ |
| 13:38.42 | *** join/#wowace cladbot (n=cladbot@cpe-74-71-116-245.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 13:38.44 | evl | [dRaCo]: hunters are PITA in 5v5 |
| 13:38.48 | Shirik | cryogen: "play" is an interesting term |
| 13:38.51 | evl | unless you play at 1346 rating |
| 13:38.53 | Shirik | I'd argue no, I don't :P |
| 13:38.56 | Mikk | hai2u cladbot |
| 13:38.58 | evl | do you play at 1346 rating [dRaCo] |
| 13:39.01 | cladhaire | Mikk: zomg hai :P |
| 13:39.11 | Shirik | lua> print("zomg hai Mikk!") |
| 13:39.11 | cladbot | Shirik: zomg hai Mikk! |
| 13:39.13 | cladhaire | i can't talk through him right now.. cuz i dont want to :P |
| 13:39.18 | [dRaCo] | j/k |
| 13:39.18 | [dRaCo] | :> |
| 13:39.31 | Jagobah | Right now the team is 1440 |
| 13:39.42 | Jagobah | But I'm having a tough time motivating people to stay on the team |
| 13:39.46 | [dRaCo] | it's pretty much up to you... got a lot of cc? |
| 13:39.56 | evl | Jagobah: 5v5 is all about coordination |
| 13:40.07 | cladhaire | cryogen: whats up |
| 13:40.11 | evl | Jagobah: focus fire is the key to winning, you have to get one of their peeps down before they get one of your peeps down |
| 13:40.17 | Shirik | lua> print("\nACTION #wowi-lounge :pokes cryogen") |
| 13:40.17 | cladbot | Shirik: |
| 13:40.23 | Shirik | oh we fixed that a while ago didn't we >< |
| 13:40.31 | evl | Jagobah: if they have a paladin it's basically always a race to whoever gets the non-bubbeled bastard down first :) |
| 13:40.32 | cryogen | dunno if you saw my message, but it is my unitframes that obscures lightheaded's window :) |
| 13:40.45 | evl | Jagobah: and keep spamming that anonying freezing thing that makes people slow |
| 13:40.55 | Jagobah | frost trap? |
| 13:40.57 | cryogen | (quite why they use such a high strata i dont know, but it is t hem :) |
| 13:41.07 | Gagorian | lua> for i=1,2 do print(":E") end |
| 13:41.07 | cladbot | Gagorian: :E, :E |
| 13:41.09 | evl | yeah, frost trap |
| 13:41.16 | evl | makes us rogues qq |
| 13:41.25 | Gagorian | HAHAHA. Ok that can be fun. |
| 13:41.37 | Shirik|AFK | why would you do that Gagorian |
| 13:41.42 | Jagobah | Yesterday we had two hunters, rogue, elemental shaman, and warlock |
| 13:41.48 | Jagobah | We lost 7 games and won 1 |
| 13:41.51 | Shirik|AFK | lua> print(string.rep(":E ", 2)) |
| 13:41.51 | cladbot | Shirik|AFK: :E :E |
| 13:41.53 | Shirik|AFK | so much easier |
| 13:41.55 | evl | Jagobah: you are in 5v5 without a healer? |
| 13:42.00 | evl | Jagobah: are you insane? |
| 13:42.02 | Jagobah | Seems like our team dies pretty fast |
| 13:42.02 | [dRaCo] | o0 |
| 13:42.06 | [dRaCo] | get a healer. now. |
| 13:42.07 | Gagorian | Shirik|AFK: O'rly, I was just testing :P |
| 13:42.09 | cladhaire | Shirik|AFK: no, i didn't fix it.. I probably should =) |
| 13:42.13 | Jagobah | evl: ANy healer I brought left the team after 1 game |
| 13:42.17 | Shirik|AFK | you sure? |
| 13:42.20 | Shirik|AFK | it didn't send the emote |
| 13:42.25 | Moltarain | well you need to protect them to |
| 13:42.30 | Jagobah | Besides there are some teams that do well without any healers |
| 13:42.32 | evl | Jagobah: You need a holy priest or a paladin for 5v5, anything else will die SNAP and then they can just play around with you |
| 13:42.35 | cladhaire | yep |
| 13:42.52 | Shirik|AFK | I also meant to do #wowace there but w/e >< |
| 13:42.55 | evl | Jagobah: also, you have too little cc |
| 13:43.11 | Shirik|AFK | holy pallies in 5v5 lol |
| 13:43.13 | Shirik|AFK | it's like |
| 13:43.15 | vhaarr | ~whaleparry ilifin |
| 13:43.16 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry ilifin's attacks. |
| 13:43.19 | Shirik|AFK | they try to kill the healer |
| 13:43.22 | Shirik|AFK | then he just tanks it all |
| 13:43.28 | Shirik|AFK | then they give up to kill someone |
| 13:43.30 | Shirik|AFK | and he heals them |
| 13:43.30 | Mikk | lua> print("\nACTION #wowace :pokes cryogen") |
| 13:43.30 | cladbot | Mikk: |
| 13:43.35 | evl | paladins > * |
| 13:43.39 | [dRaCo] | yeah, holy palas in arena stuff are just insane |
| 13:43.46 | Shirik|AFK | evl: This is a lua area |
| 13:43.47 | Shirik|AFK | you mean |
| 13:43.54 | Jagobah | well I don't have any paladins on the team so that is not an option |
| 13:43.58 | evl | Paladins > _G |
| 13:44.01 | Shirik|AFK | setmetatable(paladins, {__gt = function() return true; end} |
| 13:44.04 | cryogen | you need a ^A in there |
| 13:44.08 | evl | Jagobah: then you have to get more coordinated CC |
| 13:44.17 | Jagobah | I asked two paladins and they said "not unless your team rating is 2000" |
| 13:44.22 | Josh_Borke | way to crash it :-P |
| 13:44.28 | Shirik|AFK | it wasn't me T_T |
| 13:44.35 | Jagobah | And even that is frustrating because we are a new team |
| 13:44.39 | Jagobah | no gladiator gear at all |
| 13:44.39 | [dRaCo] | Jagobah: seriously, get a healer... you wont make it to 1,6k without em |
| 13:44.45 | cladhaire | I didn't crash it.. I killed it. |
| 13:44.45 | Jagobah | and all these teams have full season 2 sets |
| 13:44.48 | evl | Jagobah: seriously, a 3v3 team is TONS easier |
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| 13:44.52 | Shirik|AFK | murderer! |
| 13:44.56 | evl | Jagobah: I'd start off with that and move on to 5v5 later. |
| 13:44.58 | cladhaire | I dont want to put it up until I can make code changes to the bot on the fly without needing to re-connect it |
| 13:45.03 | cladhaire | right now i can only make changes to the sandbox |
| 13:45.05 | cladhaire | which is teh suck. |
| 13:45.14 | Jagobah | How do you get arena gear unless you play? |
| 13:45.20 | Jagobah | That's what I believe |
| 13:45.20 | [dRaCo] | get pvp stuff |
| 13:45.32 | [dRaCo] | it's not as good as the arena stuff, but it's a start |
| 13:45.39 | Jagobah | Most people just want free points... they don't want to play |
| 13:45.41 | evl | well it's the best for those slots :) |
| 13:45.51 | evl | Jagobah: well 5v5 is hard because it requires a lot more l2p |
| 13:45.58 | Gagorian | cladhaire: So, what prevents people from doing infinite loops and stuff? :O |
| 13:46.02 | evl | Jagobah: at 1850 in 2v2 you still get 500 points. |
| 13:46.16 | [dRaCo] | and seriously, get at least a resto shaman or something |
| 13:46.30 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: fork and take over descriptors, kill parent basically right? |
| 13:46.44 | cladhaire | Gagorian: join #luabot and try to break it |
| 13:46.46 | Jagobah | sigh I can try and recruit more... it just blows so much that we can't do well if healers don't want to play |
| 13:46.49 | cladhaire | Gagorian: : you're welcome to :P |
| 13:46.59 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: No, its all lua, so I dont have stuff like that |
| 13:46.59 | Jagobah | thanks for your suggestions |
| 13:47.02 | clad|away | brb |
| 13:47.10 | Gagorian | :P |
| 13:47.15 | evl | Jagobah: if you struggle to get above 1500 rating in 5v5 you should really look into 2v2 and 3v3 for experience |
| 13:47.27 | Gagorian | clad|away: Well, the bot isn't there? hmmm? |
| 13:47.37 | Jagobah | Every team I've been on in those brackets would screw me over |
| 13:47.46 | Jagobah | after I get it up 80 points or more, they kick me on monday |
| 13:47.50 | Jagobah | so aggravating |
| 13:47.54 | Jagobah | it's why I started my own team |
| 13:48.15 | Shirik|AFK | Gagorian: We've thought of quite a few things |
| 13:48.24 | Shirik|AFK | I dare say Cide's is indestructable now ^^ |
| 13:48.30 | Shirik|AFK | clad|away's is mostly based off that so |
| 13:48.45 | Gagorian | Excess flood? |
| 13:48.52 | Shirik|AFK | not an issue |
| 13:49.03 | Shirik|AFK | you'd flood out before she would |
| 13:49.07 | Mikk | A concerted attack by several users could flood it off |
| 13:49.12 | Shirik|AFK | maybe |
| 13:49.12 | Shirik|AFK | ya |
| 13:49.16 | Mikk | But.. bah |
| 13:49.22 | Shirik|AFK | but such is true for any DDoS :P |
| 13:49.42 | Mikk | Not that kind of flood |
| 13:50.03 | Shirik|AFK | what? like hurricane flood? |
| 13:50.17 | Mikk | Flood as in "make it respond too much" |
| 13:50.19 | Mikk | But .. bah |
| 13:50.20 | Shirik|AFK | ^^ |
| 13:50.23 | Shirik|AFK | ya I know |
| 13:50.26 | Shirik|AFK | is still a ddos ;) |
| 13:50.48 | Shirik|AFK | ~emulate Mikk |
| 13:50.49 | purl | ACTION butts his nose into whatever you were discussing right there and dumps his opinion on you like a metric ton of feces. Mikk never sleeps, he edits |
| 13:50.50 | Mikk | distributed-triggered-self-dos |
| 13:51.42 | Gagorian | I'll just run a few instances of KTM on it |
| 13:51.47 | Gagorian | (...I had to) |
| 13:52.00 | Jagobah | Oh one other thing |
| 13:52.09 | Jagobah | Who in here knows a lot about chat windows and messages? |
| 13:52.26 | Shirik|AFK | define "a lot" |
| 13:53.50 | nevcairiel | just ask, our commulative knowledge will be able to answer most of it :P |
| 13:54.08 | Shirik|AFK | we are the borg |
| 13:54.13 | Mikk | we cumulate lots of shit |
| 13:54.18 | Shirik|AFK | your technological uniqueness will be added to our own |
| 13:54.19 | Mikk | we are severely constipated |
| 13:54.21 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r42036 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:54.21 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 13:54.21 | CIA-22 | - localization-ready, |
| 13:54.21 | CIA-22 | - added priest buffs *UNTESTED*, |
| 13:54.21 | CIA-22 | - code rewrite to prepare for weapon buffs and buffing using items. |
| 13:54.35 | Shirik|AFK | resistance is futile |
| 13:54.42 | Shirik|AFK | (for <1 ohm) |
| 13:54.56 | nevcairiel | i should've expected responses like that |
| 13:55.06 | Gagorian | haha |
| 13:55.08 | Mikk | I am Dyslexia of borg. Rain isn't for tiles. Your arse will be laminated. |
| 13:55.10 | Jagobah | Okay.... while redoing my UI, one of my chat windows ended up getting broken, and I have no clue where to go to fix it. It's not showing up messages like "soandso has come online" or "Your auction of Meat has sold" anymore |
| 13:55.17 | Jagobah | And I want those messages back X_X |
| 13:55.35 | Mikk | That's "System" messages |
| 13:55.38 | Shirik|AFK | ya |
| 13:55.43 | Shirik|AFK | double check you have system messages turned on |
| 13:55.50 | Shirik|AFK | (right click the tab on the chat window) |
| 13:55.54 | Mikk | the funny thing is |
| 13:56.05 | Mikk | there's no way to control receiption of system messages in blizzard's ui |
| 13:56.09 | Mikk | they're hardcoded as registered to window 1 |
| 13:56.15 | Shirik|AFK | yuck |
| 13:56.18 | Mikk | indeedly |
| 13:56.33 | Shirik|AFK | I like wikipedia's article on the matter: "Resistance is futile (IPA: /??z?st?ns'?z'futa??l/) is a famous catch phrase used by the Borg from the Star Trek fictional universe. It has subsequently been assimilated into popular culture as a proverb and has become a cultural meme." |
| 13:56.42 | Shirik|AFK | "It has subsequently been assimilated" |
| 13:56.43 | Shirik|AFK | loll |
| 13:56.46 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 13:56.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:57.12 | Mikk | Jagobah: Gimme a sec and I'll see if you can force that shit somehow... |
| 13:57.25 | Shirik|AFK | you can |
| 13:57.28 | Jagobah | Yeah I can see where I can change the colors |
| 13:57.29 | Shirik|AFK | you should still receive CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 13:57.33 | Jagobah | but not if you can turn them on or off |
| 13:57.33 | Shirik|AFK | so running the script |
| 13:58.14 | Shirik|AFK | f = CreateFrame("FRAME"); f:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM"); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, arg1) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(arg1); end); |
| 13:58.16 | Shirik|AFK | should do it |
| 13:58.21 | Mikk | urgh |
| 13:58.25 | Shirik|AFK | but of course that would only work for one session |
| 13:58.27 | Josh_Borke | blurg |
| 13:58.33 | Mikk | there's better, gimme a sec |
| 13:58.48 | Shirik|AFK | but you do not deny its functionality |
| 13:58.51 | Shirik|AFK | I answered the question I win :D |
| 13:59.15 | Josh_Borke | what do you win? |
| 13:59.20 | Shirik|AFK | a cherry coke |
| 13:59.27 | Josh_Borke | liar |
| 13:59.29 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.36 | Jagobah | Yeah that works... it even looks white |
| 13:59.36 | Mikk | Test it with /roll |
| 13:59.43 | Jagobah | i'll try that too |
| 13:59.49 | Mikk | That also gets SAVED for future sessions |
| 13:59.52 | Shirik|AFK | yeah it's white because I didn't bother to change the color :P |
| 13:59.53 | Mikk | Which makes it a bit better :> |
| 14:00.01 | Shirik|AFK | but, you do not deny the functionality |
| 14:00.03 | Shirik|AFK | do you Mikk! |
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| 14:00.14 | Jagobah | now I have double the system message! |
| 14:00.18 | Shirik|AFK | heh |
| 14:00.22 | Shirik|AFK | just reloadui should get rid of my code |
| 14:00.31 | vhaarrr | I don't need to think anywat whatsoever that you tell me to think |
| 14:00.36 | Jagobah | this is interesting stuff I should learn more about it |
| 14:00.38 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42037 10beql/ (. beql.toc localization-es.lua): beql - Added Spanish Translation |
| 14:01.04 | Mikk | No, wait, bad impersonation |
| 14:01.23 | vhaarrr | Luckily for me, what I think is not influenced by you in any way |
| 14:01.27 | Mikk | There, better |
| 14:01.41 | Shirik|AFK | "Your search - vhaarrr - did not match any documents. " |
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| 14:01.43 | Wobin | I see wut yu did thar |
| 14:01.58 | Jagobah | So what could've caused my system messages to disappear O_o |
| 14:02.08 | vhaarr | Mikk: haha |
| 14:02.11 | Mikk | Jagobah: Deleteing ChatFrame1 and recreating it |
| 14:02.23 | vhaarr | Mikk: you almost fooled me |
| 14:02.24 | vhaarr | :( |
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| 14:02.43 | Shirik|AFK | vhaarr: google says you don't exist |
| 14:02.57 | vhaarr | Shirik|AFK: that's because I'm a ninja |
| 14:03.02 | Shirik|AFK | ooo |
| 14:03.06 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r42038 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 4 dirs): LittleWigs: frFR Update |
| 14:03.06 | Jagobah | Yeah that probably did it. I reset my entire UI before building it again |
| 14:03.52 | Jagobah | I wonder if there's a way to modify error messages like "Spell is not ready yet" |
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| 14:05.03 | Shirik | there is |
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| 14:06.56 | vhaarr | just modify the globalstring |
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| 14:07.54 | vhaarr | of course |
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| 14:07.58 | vhaarr | that might taint in certain situations |
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| 14:08.07 | vhaarr | so maybe it's better to hook UIErrorsFrame and rewrite it |
| 14:08.15 | vhaarr | or add a rewrite engine to ErrorMonster |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r42039 10KingOfTheJungle/ (. KingOfTheJungle.lua KingOfTheJungle.toc embeds.xml): |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-22 | - Upgrade to Parser-3.0 |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-22 | - Using embeds.xml |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-22 | - Hide Feed Pet Button when there is no food. |
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| 14:09.32 | cryogen | one thing about ace addons |
| 14:09.36 | cryogen | they have some serious odd names :) |
| 14:09.45 | cryogen | +ly |
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| 14:16.38 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42040 10beql/localization-es.lua: beql - spanish translation deleted |
| 14:17.06 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42041 10beql/localization-es.lua: beql - Added Spanish Translation |
| 14:18.14 | Mikk | cryogen: no, rly? :P |
| 14:18.59 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42042 10beql/beql.toc: beql - Fixed typo error |
| 14:19.23 | jme | beerke: what all does KotJ do? |
| 14:21.46 | cryogen | Mikk: yarly |
| 14:21.51 | deltron | jme: gj! |
| 14:22.06 | Mikk | I try to influence naming to more sane names when I can but ... owell :> |
| 14:22.09 | jme | *sniff* |
| 14:22.13 | [Ammo] | tsk mikk |
| 14:22.15 | [Ammo] | heretic! |
| 14:22.23 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 14:22.24 | purl | you are probably NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 14:22.28 | Mikk | youps |
| 14:22.31 | Mikk | ~emulate mikk |
| 14:22.31 | purl | ACTION butts his nose into whatever you were discussing right there and dumps his opinion on you like a metric ton of feces. Mikk never sleeps, he edits |
| 14:23.13 | Gagorian | Is the responces for UnitCreatureFamily("pet") for warlocks most logical to localize in Babble-Race? |
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| 14:23.41 | nevcairiel | i think babble-race already does that |
| 14:23.56 | Gagorian | It only has Imp |
| 14:24.01 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:24.06 | nevcairiel | it should have all other then |
| 14:24.22 | Gagorian | Was added due to ThreatLib a while ago, the rest is still missing |
| 14:25.00 | Gnarfoz | ~remulate |
| 14:25.01 | purl | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
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| 14:26.23 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42043 10beql/: beql: - Added SVN logtemplate |
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| 14:29.23 | durcyn | Gagorian: Imp is the only one that matters for ThreatLib, due to MD buff |
| 14:30.34 | Mech0z | Is it possible to get omen to only show TargetsTargets threat, threatgain and your own threat? |
| 14:30.41 | Mech0z | cant seem to get the first one |
| 14:31.17 | Mikk | isn't your own threat shown as a % of current tank's? |
| 14:31.27 | Mikk | fill the bar = die |
| 14:32.34 | [Ammo] | if you drag the bar out yeah |
| 14:32.44 | [Ammo] | you have 3 'bars' on one bar |
| 14:32.54 | [Ammo] | your threat, tank threath, aggro threshold |
| 14:33.13 | [Ammo] | [#### you ##]### tank ###]### threshold ###] |
| 14:35.53 | Gagorian | durcyn: Indeed |
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| 14:36.45 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r42044 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 14:36.45 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:36.45 | CIA-22 | - deDE update for "Magma Totem" |
| 14:37.01 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42045 10beql/ (11 files): beql - changed entire directory |
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| 14:38.01 | Mech0z | seems good, is it possible to remove the version info text below omen? :o |
| 14:38.05 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=59081&postcount=10 |
| 14:38.08 | mikma | gz boys |
| 14:39.11 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r42046 10Grid/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:39.11 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 14:39.11 | CIA-22 | Core - Added '/grid config' which displays a waterfall menu. |
| 14:39.11 | CIA-22 | Layout - make sure the second column in the 'by group 25 w/tanks' layout stays empty. |
| 14:39.13 | deltron | says the guy with 2 lowbies :D |
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| 14:41.43 | jme | deltron: heh |
| 14:42.00 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42047 10beql/localization-es.lua: beql - restored entire directory |
| 14:43.02 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42048 10beql/ (10 files): beql - restored entire directory |
| 14:43.15 | deltron | beql eh? |
| 14:43.42 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42049 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: |
| 14:43.42 | CIA-22 | .Babble-Race-2.2: |
| 14:43.42 | CIA-22 | - Added keys for warlock pet races (Succubus, Voidwalker, Felguard, Felhunter) |
| 14:43.44 | Mikk | speaking of names that tell you jack shit :P |
| 14:44.43 | Gagorian | A Quest Log and Tracker addon based on Extended Quest Log (BETA!) (bayi) |
| 14:44.50 | Gagorian | Based on Extended Quest Log |
| 14:44.54 | Gagorian | kek |
| 14:44.57 | deltron | ah neat |
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| 14:46.09 | Gagorian | If I would've had to guess I would've said it had something to do with radiation. |
| 14:46.19 | Gagorian | So, not that close! |
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| 14:48.59 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42050 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Cleanup, wording changes. |
| 14:49.54 | Chompers | its on the updater, IT'S ACE2 |
| 14:50.02 | Chompers | DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME RAHHHHH |
| 14:50.30 | [Ammo] | eat shit and die chompers |
| 14:51.14 | Chompers | :< |
| 14:51.23 | durcyn | such hostility in here. |
| 14:51.42 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42051 10beql/beql.toc: beql: - Fixed typo error, Libs from Waterfall line must be with Capital Letter L |
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| 14:57.04 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42052 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid: Updated translation koKR |
| 14:57.14 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42053 10DrDamage/ (Data/Warlock.lua DrDamage.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 14:57.14 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:57.14 | CIA-22 | - Uses Babble-Race for the Warlock MD buff pet locales |
| 14:57.14 | CIA-22 | - Converted to embeds.xml |
| 14:57.15 | CIA-22 | - Drycoded cause EU servers suck |
| 15:00.50 | Mikk | Gagorian: get devel toons on other servers |
| 15:02.30 | Wobin | meh, if only they did half the servers on one day and half on another for maintenence |
| 15:02.42 | Wobin | then we could get our wow fix on alternate servers =P |
| 15:02.55 | Mikk | it's not maintenance day |
| 15:02.56 | Mikk | but yes =) |
| 15:03.58 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42054 10DrDamage/Data/Warlock.lua: |
| 15:03.58 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 15:03.58 | CIA-22 | - Nil check to UnitCreatureFamily("unit") |
| 15:05.08 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42055 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: Make CoolDown Monitor window scalable. For great justice and screen real-estate conservation! |
| 15:05.25 | [Ammo] | OH NOES |
| 15:05.41 | [Ammo] | thanks :p |
| 15:05.48 | [Ammo] | I hate giving users what they want |
| 15:05.53 | [Ammo] | whinging bastards |
| 15:06.10 | Ominous | rofl :D |
| 15:10.29 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42056 10beql/: beql: - Fixed Externals |
| 15:10.45 | Ominous | beql? |
| 15:10.57 | deltron | scroll up :P |
| 15:10.59 | Mikk | Based on Extended QuestLog |
| 15:11.00 | Gnancy | Kirkburn: are you around? |
| 15:11.14 | Ominous | deltron: i cant i logged in 15mins ago |
| 15:11.37 | Mikk | excuses and assholes; we all have em |
| 15:11.47 | Wobin | and on that note, gnite all =P |
| 15:11.54 | Mikk | gniet wobs |
| 15:12.18 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42057 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: |
| 15:12.18 | CIA-22 | oRA2: |
| 15:12.18 | CIA-22 | - Make cooldown monitor not eat mouse events unless Alt is depressed |
| 15:12.18 | CIA-22 | ~lart [Ammo] |
| 15:12.19 | purl | takes out [Ammo] with the trash |
| 15:12.47 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 15:12.50 | deltron | oh :P |
| 15:12.56 | deltron | well mikk got it |
| 15:13.09 | sag_ich_nicht | anything new on the KTM version report blocking threat-1.0 front? :O |
| 15:16.36 | Gnancy | anyone have a moment to mabye point me in the right direction? |
| 15:17.41 | Gnancy | Id like to add the ShareMedia fonts to ClearFont. Should this be in the main code or a seperate module like the fontpacks? |
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| 15:19.27 | durcyn | Gnancy: sml should really be a cf2 optdep, and it should pull in the fonts if the SM/SML is loaded |
| 15:20.04 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r42058 10beql/ (. Libs/): beql: - Externals don't work, fixed |
| 15:20.59 | Gnancy | hmm Ill check the toc but I believe that CF inserts its fonts into SML but dosent grab SML's fonts for use |
| 15:21.38 | durcyn | ~lart Kirkburn |
| 15:21.38 | purl | gives Kirkburn a good seeing to |
| 15:22.26 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42059 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.lua ag_Variables.lua): ag_UnitFrames: stop table creation in :UtilFactionColor |
| 15:23.33 | Antiarc|Work | Morning |
| 15:24.23 | Gnancy | well SML is an opt dep in CF so that much is done. What do you think of grabbing a list of SML fonts then adding it to CF in CF's main code? |
| 15:24.25 | Chompers | hey |
| 15:24.39 | Cryect | morning Antiarc |
| 15:24.58 | durcyn | Gnancy: i think you should kick Kirkburn in the shins until he fixes it. |
| 15:25.28 | Cryect | shin kicking is always good |
| 15:27.56 | Gnancy | kk ill wait for him :) |
| 15:28.27 | Gnancy | just wanted to do a little footwork myself when i can |
| 15:28.35 | jme | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Jeru |
| 15:28.45 | jme | ^^^ hunter on my realm with 12k hp |
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| 15:32.07 | subsonic- | Where can I find out about functions in the libraries. let's start with CreateFontString and SetPoint |
| 15:32.21 | Josh_Borke | what libraries? |
| 15:32.25 | Josh_Borke | jme: you're on SR? what guild? |
| 15:32.26 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 15:32.35 | jme | Josh_Borke: booty bay bandits |
| 15:32.41 | subsonic- | Josh_Borke: I wish I knew. :) |
| 15:32.41 | Josh_Borke | i hate you guys :-P |
| 15:32.44 | subsonic- | Mikk: thanks |
| 15:32.47 | jme | Josh_Borke: :/ |
| 15:32.56 | Josh_Borke | <-- forgotten souls |
| 15:33.05 | jme | Josh_Borke: ah |
| 15:33.09 | Chompers | is there a list of 'tags' inside PT3.0? |
| 15:33.12 | jme | Josh_Borke: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil <- me |
| 15:33.16 | subsonic- | Mikk: so it's a Blizzard thing, now a Ace thing |
| 15:33.25 | Mikk | subsonic-: correct |
| 15:33.29 | Mikk | Chompers: Use PT3Browser |
| 15:33.30 | Josh_Borke | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Dagh <-- was me (account is out) |
| 15:33.55 | jme | Josh_Borke: cool |
| 15:34.02 | subsonic- | Mikk: how does one learn the differences? |
| 15:34.02 | jme | Josh_Borke: not playing anymore? |
| 15:34.17 | Chompers | thanks Mikk |
| 15:34.18 | Chompers | :D |
| 15:34.49 | Mikk | subsonic-: Learn the blizzard API first. Basically. :P |
| 15:35.15 | subsonic- | Mikk: Got any tips on where to start, or just read that link? |
| 15:35.25 | Josh_Borke | jme: not for now |
| 15:35.38 | jme | Josh_Borke: :/ |
| 15:35.51 | Mikk | subsonic-: where to start with what? addons? or manipulating frames? |
| 15:36.05 | subsonic- | Mikk: Add ons I guess :) |
| 15:36.13 | Mikk | arf |
| 15:36.35 | jme | Josh_Borke: my gear is still sucky, i've only been in kara once up through curator |
| 15:36.47 | Mikk | subsonic-: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ/AddOn_Author_Resources#Tutorials |
| 15:37.02 | Josh_Borke | my guild doesn't let me raid much |
| 15:37.04 | subsonic- | Thank you sir |
| 15:37.05 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42060 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: cache :Parse() results for great justice and less memory leakage |
| 15:37.07 | Mikk | jme: T4 isn't THAT much better than blues or craftables |
| 15:37.11 | Josh_Borke | or didn't i should say |
| 15:37.15 | Gnancy | yeah |
| 15:37.17 | jme | Josh_Borke: heh that sucks |
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| 15:37.26 | jme | Josh_Borke: find a better guild? |
| 15:37.38 | Josh_Borke | naw, it's thes ame guild i've been in the entire time i've played wow |
| 15:37.41 | Josh_Borke | it's the only one for me |
| 15:37.42 | Gnancy | FSW is better than alot of stuff |
| 15:38.02 | Josh_Borke | yes, yes it is |
| 15:38.03 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42061 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: Make CoolDown Montor alt+rightclickable for menu |
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| 15:38.04 | jme | Josh_Borke: ah that's cool |
| 15:38.22 | Josh_Borke | i have most of the gear i'll have until my guild reaches kael/BT/Hyjal |
| 15:38.35 | Gnancy | we are in SSC/TK and I dont see repalcing FSW for a while |
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| 15:39.28 | Josh_Borke | well there you go |
| 15:39.33 | Josh_Borke | i won't be replacing FSW for a while :-D |
| 15:42.12 | jme | i think i'm just going to pvp for my veteran's chain and get the rest of beast lord for now |
| 15:42.29 | Gnancy | Josh_Borke: is that the Scryers ring you have there? Armory dosent like me for soem reason |
| 15:43.20 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42062 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: revert last change, someone released all zigg |
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| 15:45.45 | jme | heh as a hunter i don't know why i went scryers, other than for some lw patterns i'll probably never craft |
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| 15:46.01 | Josh_Borke | no |
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| 15:46.40 | Josh_Borke | Gnancy: spirit shard purchase |
| 15:46.48 | jme | i won't even use the vindicator's band since i want legacy |
| 15:47.01 | jme | er, the dagger whatever it is |
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| 15:47.18 | jme | s/band/brand |
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| 15:48.05 | durcyn | hrm, i wonder how many venom sacs i'd have to turn in to go from hated to neutral with aldor |
| 15:48.47 | liquiem | 8 per turnin, 250rep per turnin |
| 15:48.48 | Zurks | "A lot" |
| 15:49.45 | Josh_Borke | so yea, i will farm for spellcloth when i play again to get my spellstrike set then be done until i can get some T5 drops |
| 15:50.44 | jme | durcyn: i'm thinking about grinding back to aldor, and dreading it |
| 15:51.02 | Chompers | i'm sure there was a method of using PT3 tags as bags in Arkinv |
| 15:51.06 | Chompers | i just cant find it :S |
| 15:51.31 | durcyn | blah. that's 84 turnins, 672 venom sacs |
| 15:51.37 | durcyn | probably two months of farming |
| 15:52.02 | Chompers | aaah, its under rules |
| 15:53.51 | vhaarr | ~emulate Kirkburn |
| 15:53.52 | purl | I hear he's very fond of kittens. Buy him one. |
| 15:54.31 | vhaarr | ~seen CIA-22 |
| 15:55.07 | purl | cia-22 is currently on #wowace (11h 40m 7s). Has said a total of 176 messages. Is idling for 11m 47s, last said: '03ammo * r42062 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: revert last change, someone released all zigg'. |
| 15:55.07 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42063 10ClearFont2/ (Core.lua Design.lua): |
| 15:55.07 | CIA-22 | ClearFont2: |
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| 15:56.12 | Gnancy | wow nice rabbit! |
| 15:56.54 | vhaarr | well it probably breaks |
| 15:56.58 | vhaarr | Kirkburn will smack me |
| 15:58.02 | subsonic- | I'll probably get reamed for asking something so simple, but I'm trying to add to a mod. I have the main frame, how can I add a border to it (it's for learning about SetPoint) |
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| 16:03.02 | ravagernl | subsonic: look into setbackdrop |
| 16:03.26 | subsonic- | ravagernl: looking there :) thanks |
| 16:03.42 | subsonic- | is 1,1,1 white? |
| 16:03.53 | ravagernl | yes |
| 16:04.30 | Ominous | mikk: ping |
| 16:04.42 | subsonic- | how can I turn on debugging? |
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| 16:08.07 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42065 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to unitIDString for nil parameters. |
| 16:09.22 | subsonic- | Okay, so I am drawing a border around the main frame, and I have a new element that I create and set the point to BOTTOM and relative to the TOPLEFT of the main frame. What I'm confused about it that it's top left is more left than the main frame. Is that normal? |
| 16:09.40 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, the border is drawn inset a bit. |
| 16:09.49 | Antiarc|Work | Probably inset 4px on either side or so |
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| 16:11.03 | Antiarc|Work | http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1872/abkekhg6.jpg |
| 16:11.26 | jme | haha |
| 16:11.30 | trh | lol |
| 16:11.37 | subsonic- | haha |
| 16:11.38 | xt | ok, whyd oesnt my Prat work anymore? |
| 16:11.44 | xt | no modules:( |
| 16:11.46 | subsonic- | how can I turn on debugging? |
| 16:12.26 | Mikk | omega_: pong |
| 16:12.27 | Mikk | err |
| 16:12.28 | NeoTron | so I find ClassTimer to be ok but noticed it doesn't handle multiple same-named mobs |
| 16:12.32 | Mikk | Ominous: pong |
| 16:12.47 | Ominous | NeoTron: it dosent handle multiple anything properly |
| 16:12.52 | NeoTron | I really don't like the resources DoTimer uses but is there anything like DoTimer in terms of features? |
| 16:12.56 | NeoTron | Ominous: >:-) |
| 16:13.06 | Ominous | Mikk: you added the group functions in dewdrop didnt you |
| 16:13.17 | Mikk | the onClick and isChecked ones, yes |
| 16:13.49 | Ominous | would it be possible to add them for text if multitoggle is selected |
| 16:13.59 | Ominous | as its almost like a group with multiitoggle |
| 16:14.14 | Mikk | possibly |
| 16:14.15 | Mikk | checking |
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| 16:15.35 | Antiarc|Work | Hey guys |
| 16:15.43 | Antiarc|Work | KTM is "the best dm addon". Deadage said so. |
| 16:16.13 | trh | dm? damagemeter? |
| 16:16.14 | nevcairiel | KTM is a dm addon? |
| 16:16.32 | Ominous | i know |
| 16:16.36 | Ominous | i rofled when i saw that |
| 16:16.46 | ven | noone will win on dps anymore... they're all winning on threat |
| 16:16.46 | trh | i'm winning on threat! |
| 16:16.52 | trh | ven: lol ^^ |
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| 16:17.42 | Slapw | hi there |
| 16:17.45 | Slapw | i often get wau crit errors |
| 16:17.54 | Slapw | since last version, is this known? |
| 16:17.59 | Mikk | yes |
| 16:18.06 | Mikk | unfortunately, the wau 1.9 is on vacation |
| 16:18.07 | Slapw | ok :D |
| 16:18.13 | Ominous | wau1.9 is runninnong out of support AFAIK |
| 16:18.13 | Mikk | err,.,. "author" in there |
| 16:18.33 | Mikk | well.. it WILL .. once 2.0 is out |
| 16:18.34 | Mikk | but it isn't |
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| 16:18.50 | Mikk | Slapw: Try older versions tbh |
| 16:18.56 | Ominous | kaelten: evening |
| 16:19.03 | Slapw | yeah just wanted to report here |
| 16:19.10 | Mikk | yeah, cheers |
| 16:19.21 | trh | still hoping a c# version (with ad) of the updater will be available when 2.0 hits =) |
| 16:19.28 | Kaelten | g'mornin |
| 16:19.32 | Mikk | c#? what are you smoking? |
| 16:19.55 | subsonic- | Do you guys tend to build your frames with xml or lua? |
| 16:20.00 | Ominous | lua |
| 16:20.01 | Mikk | lua |
| 16:20.12 | jme | aul |
| 16:20.13 | Kaelten | xml is the devil |
| 16:20.13 | Kirkburn | vhaarr, hello |
| 16:20.14 | cryogen | if i ever get my copy of visual studio working again i fully intend to have a proper look at wua 1.9 |
| 16:20.16 | Slapw | Mikk nothing against c#... im such a developer too :P |
| 16:20.30 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: bye! |
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| 16:20.48 | Zurks | :d |
| 16:20.54 | vhaarr | ~whaleparry Ominous |
| 16:20.55 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Ominous's attacks. |
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| 16:21.07 | subsonic- | java's a good choice for WUA |
| 16:21.07 | jme | heh |
| 16:21.18 | subsonic- | I don't like java, but at least it's cross OS |
| 16:21.19 | syeren | Antiarc|Work, from what I am reading, he is trying to kill off your addon by being a complete and utter prick? |
| 16:21.20 | Zurks | vhaarr been naughty? |
| 16:21.25 | vhaarr | yes |
| 16:21.29 | Kirkburn | vhaarr, I haven't tested it :P I only just got back to the PC |
| 16:21.31 | syeren | When you have allowed Threat to communicate with KTM somewhat ;p |
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| 16:21.44 | Antiarc|Work | syeren: No, he's not doing anything to my addon. He's just shooting his own users for daring to run Threat. |
| 16:21.54 | Antiarc|Work | Which, to be honest, is good for Threat/Omen. |
| 16:22.03 | Zurks | Yeah, indeed |
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| 16:22.08 | subsonic- | does anybody have a sample mod of a good way to code, that I can look at? |
| 16:22.11 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42066 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: Add isChecked & onClick directives to texts with table validates. Not tested functionality other than to verify that old stuff doesn't break. |
| 16:22.13 | Zurks | Sooner or later more people will switch to Omen |
| 16:22.44 | Mikk | Ominous: gogo test |
| 16:23.07 | Ominous | mikk: if you had commited it 3 mins earlier i would have to check it out |
| 16:23.27 | jme | thaps? slanks? |
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| 16:23.38 | Slapw | ehm one question does 1.9.3 work |
| 16:23.41 | Gagorian | subsonic-: A good way as in efficient code, clean code or what? :p |
| 16:23.49 | Zurks | Thlapks |
| 16:23.56 | Slapw | he always wanna update all addons. even if they are all up2date :P |
| 16:24.00 | subsonic- | Gagorian: Clean code that doesn't use XML |
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| 16:24.15 | jme | Zurks: heh, must roll a toon named Thlapks |
| 16:24.19 | subsonic- | Clean = easier to look at and learn |
| 16:24.22 | NeoTron | so regarding ThreatToKTM - is that a required addon to send data to KTM or does it just add some features to the priocess? |
| 16:24.55 | Zurks | IS ThreatToKTM usable these days? Tried it last week and it was completely broken. |
| 16:25.07 | Ominous | sigh, mikk forgot to code it and was wondering why it wasent working... |
| 16:25.14 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: It just adds features to the process. Threat->KTM is core to Threat now, and can be toggled on from Omen. |
| 16:25.18 | NeoTron | ok |
| 16:25.19 | Zurks | As in, sending completely false information to KTM. |
| 16:25.37 | nevcairiel | what features does TTK add? |
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| 16:25.46 | Antiarc|Work | Set master target, do a KTM version query, etc |
| 16:25.54 | nevcairiel | nothing important i guess |
| 16:25.59 | Antiarc|Work | It's basically a light interface for the KTM commands through Threat. |
| 16:26.37 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: is sending of data to KTM enabled by default? |
| 16:26.58 | Antiarc|Work | No, it has to be toggled on |
| 16:27.04 | Antiarc|Work | TTK and Omen both allow you to toggle it on. |
| 16:27.30 | NeoTron | ok cool |
| 16:27.34 | Dustwhisper | how can I call another addons enable/disable ace2 feature? |
| 16:28.11 | Ominous | addonName:ToggleActive() add in (false) to force disable adn true to enable |
| 16:28.24 | Dustwhisper | Ill try that thx |
| 16:29.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | any good rogue mods on ace you guys recommend? |
| 16:29.21 | RaydenUnicyclist | i just started playing one |
| 16:30.53 | Ominous | FuBar_PoisonReminderFu, PoisonMenu, ClassTimer froma completyly unbiased point of view, then LockSmith, Hemlock |
| 16:30.54 | subsonic- | So you guys make your template frames in lua as well? |
| 16:30.55 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42067 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Leader/MainTank.lua Optional/PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: Optimizations to the tooltip updating. |
| 16:31.01 | Ominous | subsonic: yes |
| 16:31.31 | subsonic- | k |
| 16:31.39 | vhaarr | Mikk: did you break dewdrop? |
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| 16:31.52 | vhaarr | hm no, wait |
| 16:32.03 | vhaarr | it's a local change I have that didn't merge |
| 16:32.15 | Ominous | Mikk: Thanks alot! |
| 16:32.18 | Wobin | RaydenUnicyclist: Atropine |
| 16:32.23 | Ominous | Mikk: works purfectly |
| 16:32.29 | Wobin | The best poison buying mod there is =) |
| 16:33.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm lvl 12 now |
| 16:33.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | so no poison yet |
| 16:33.32 | Antiarc|Work | Hemlock >:( |
| 16:33.46 | vhaarr | ErrorMonster |
| 16:33.46 | subsonic- | can you now set a backdrop on a frame that's a CreateFontString? |
| 16:33.53 | subsonic- | now=not |
| 16:33.58 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: Hemlock bothers me with that scanning stuff all the time |
| 16:33.59 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42068 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua: AuldLangSyne: Missed a 'local' |
| 16:34.05 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: it should just DO it, and not ask about it |
| 16:34.15 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: It can't. It takes a button press to open the Poisons frame. |
| 16:34.20 | Antiarc|Work | (it's a spell - /cast poisons) |
| 16:34.22 | vhaarr | jeez |
| 16:34.26 | Antiarc|Work | If I could, then I would. |
| 16:34.29 | vhaarr | right |
| 16:34.46 | Antiarc|Work | It should only scan if the info isn't in your cache, which is usually only an issue after patches |
| 16:34.51 | Antiarc|Work | It's annoying though, admittedly. |
| 16:34.55 | Ominous | i still havent got rid of excess flash powder from when it got me 120 instead of 60 |
| 16:34.57 | Ominous | :D |
| 16:34.58 | vhaarr | nah, I get it every other login |
| 16:35.24 | Ominous | vhaarr: i dont :D |
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| 16:35.28 | Antiarc|Work | ...wow, that shouldn't do that. |
| 16:35.45 | vhaarr | well maybe because I log my priest, warlock and warrior more often than my rogue |
| 16:35.50 | vhaarr | so it just seems that way |
| 16:36.21 | RaydenUnicyclist | i can't find any info on atropine |
| 16:36.29 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm.Mmm. That might do it. |
| 16:36.38 | Wobin | it's on haste's site |
| 16:36.52 | Wobin | fuxsake.net ? I think? |
| 16:37.19 | steino | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6817-Atropine.html |
| 16:37.43 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42069 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: Optional/CoolDown: Bugfix. |
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| 16:38.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | thanks |
| 16:39.48 | steev64 | atropine rocks |
| 16:39.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | it looks nice |
| 16:40.00 | RaydenUnicyclist | aut-refill |
| 16:40.14 | Pheredhel | how should i create / manage / recycle tables that i may not need anymore ? |
| 16:40.22 | RaydenUni | how does locksmith work? |
| 16:40.25 | RaydenUni | i couldn't find info on it either |
| 16:40.51 | Gagorian | Pheredhel: Depends on the situation, but generally place the table outside the scope in which you want to use it |
| 16:41.07 | Gagorian | Then, when you would create a new table. Clear the old one |
| 16:41.17 | Gagorian | for k in pairs(table) do table[k] = nil end |
| 16:41.25 | Gnarfoz | <Ominous> i still havent got rid of excess flash powder from when it got me 120 instead of 60 <- since they increased the drop rate, I've got that problem with Blinding Powder :< |
| 16:41.36 | Pheredhel | basicly its a table with contents for the tooltip |
| 16:42.01 | Pheredhel | the problem is that i want to be able to drop the info in the table |
| 16:42.12 | Gagorian | well, just clear it after it has been used. |
| 16:42.16 | NeoTron | so I wonder something - if affliction is so good, why are many high end warlocks destruction? Later fights more suitable for standing still and nuking (i.e BT/Hyjal level) |
| 16:42.52 | Gagorian | Pheredhel: You can clear it after the tooltip has been displayed in that case (provided you won't need the same information when the tooltip is shown the next time) |
| 16:42.53 | Pheredhel | neotron: because ther is an upper limit for the number of debuffs on a mob |
| 16:42.53 | Kemayo | Massive crits are fun. |
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| 16:43.11 | NeoTron | right, but even 5 warlocks don't put more than 20 debuffs up or so :P |
| 16:43.18 | Pheredhel | Gagorian: i will need it everytime the tooltip is shown |
| 16:43.28 | NeoTron | but I figured limiting num debuffs is a sane thing to do |
| 16:43.31 | Gagorian | Pheredhel: Yes, but it is the same info? |
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| 16:43.42 | Pheredhel | NeoTron: shadowpriests, warriors, rogues, ... |
| 16:43.47 | NeoTron | Kemayo: that is true. I did realize last night though that spell dmg always > crit |
| 16:43.49 | [dRaCo] | shamans! |
| 16:43.52 | Pheredhel | 25 people have to share 18? debuffslots |
| 16:43.55 | Kaelten | what about 40 warlocks! |
| 16:43.55 | NeoTron | due to the expensiveness of crit rating.. |
| 16:43.57 | Pheredhel | yes it is |
| 16:44.00 | what-K | hi all i have a question the addon bosswhisperer dont set me into dnd what do i wrong |
| 16:44.07 | durcyn | Pheredhel: 40 debuff slots, fwiw |
| 16:44.08 | steev64 | shaman rule |
| 16:44.10 | Pheredhel | perhaps some additional info added |
| 16:44.14 | RaydenUni | shadow priests put up a ton of debuffs |
| 16:44.24 | Gagorian | Well, in my opinion destruction isn't as good as affliction/ruin. |
| 16:44.30 | RaydenUni | at least 5 i count |
| 16:44.33 | Mikk | Ominous: "forgot to code it"? |
| 16:44.34 | RaydenUni | :) |
| 16:44.36 | Kemayo | NeoTron: Actually, five full affliction warlocks could put up 25-30 debuffs, I think. |
| 16:44.36 | durcyn | but you really only need two aff warlocks. in my experience the rest just seen to get bored and respec out of aff. |
| 16:44.38 | Kaydeethree | aha... the rvb fileserver's getting hammered |
| 16:44.42 | Gagorian | NeoTron: No true. The high-end gear is optimized for a balance of damage/crit/hit |
| 16:44.44 | what-K | hi vhaarr :D |
| 16:44.45 | durcyn | Gagorian: and ruin isn't as good as UA, shrug |
| 16:44.46 | RaydenUni | Kaydeethree last episode? |
| 16:44.52 | Kaydeethree | it's up |
| 16:44.58 | Gagorian | durcyn: That's not true, either. |
| 16:45.14 | Ominous | Mikk: i just updated, reloaded ui then trieed to use the onclick before adding it is what i meant |
| 16:45.19 | NeoTron | Gagorian: dps benefits more from 9 spell dmg gem vs 8 crit rating, every time |
| 16:45.22 | Gagorian | It's fight dependant, and most of all gear dependant. Ruin will outweigh UA in several later fights with high-end gear. |
| 16:45.33 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Gems, sure. |
| 16:45.34 | NeoTron | need like 16+ crit rating to be equivalent to 9 spell dmg |
| 16:45.39 | NeoTron | that's all I meant |
| 16:45.39 | subsonic- | I so don't want to work today, I just want to learn how to mod. |
| 16:45.57 | Kemayo | NeoTron: I prefer affliction myself, for what it's worth. I just strongly suspect that the nuking builds are more enjoyable to some. (Affliction does lend itself slightly more to a slower playstyle, after all.) |
| 16:46.07 | NeoTron | it seems from calculations that UA will start losing out (in static fights) to ruin around 25-30% crit |
| 16:46.13 | Pheredhel | Gagorian: it is a table of the people who have broken a CC spell (or rather people, speel, ability used to break and target |
| 16:46.17 | Gagorian | I play 40/0/21 |
| 16:46.26 | what-K | do i need another addon for bosswhisperer that activate it in a boss fight ? |
| 16:46.31 | mikma | i play 24/7 |
| 16:46.39 | durcyn | i like pie. |
| 16:46.46 | NeoTron | I looked at a 3x/x/21 type build |
| 16:46.52 | Gagorian | Pheredhel: Then just have it outside the table scope and add whenever needed. Clear when appropriate (on zoning out of instance etc?) |
| 16:46.56 | subsonic- | I love lamp |
| 16:47.05 | Gagorian | s/table scope/tooltip scope/ |
| 16:47.07 | NeoTron | because I realized that if you go destruction above ruin, you have to go 40 points in to get any benefit for shadow dmg |
| 16:47.17 | NeoTron | well other than 3 % crit / soul leech |
| 16:47.17 | Kaydeethree | linux, apache, mysql, php is indeed ftw |
| 16:47.28 | subsonic- | Why play a rogue when you can play a druid? |
| 16:47.42 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: your changes to ClearFont2 today seem to break some font changings. |
| 16:47.47 | jme | Kaydeethree: <3 |
| 16:47.48 | Mikk | because rogues do more damage |
| 16:47.52 | Pheredhel | hmm, ok, then i just have to think about how i store the 4 informations without using subtables, thanks |
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| 16:48.08 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r42070 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 16:48.08 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:48.08 | CIA-22 | - update zhTW |
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| 16:48.33 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Personally, I consider affl/ruin the best spec possible. UA is better for PvP/PvE balance, though. And certain fights UA will be strong |
| 16:48.45 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: vhaarr broke clearfont! its rabbit season now! :P |
| 16:48.48 | Gagorian | But Ruin allows for more balanced gear selection, gets progressively better in the end-game and is more fun to play |
| 16:49.38 | Gagorian | Most warlocks underestimate the value of imp. shadowbolt debuff as well |
| 16:49.59 | Gagorian | At least our raids have 6 shadow damage dealers usually, if the debuff is kept up it's a nice dps boost |
| 16:50.56 | Mikk | It's a nutty dps boost for shadowpriests |
| 16:51.18 | NeoTron | Gagorian: so do you have reasonbly high crit? |
| 16:51.25 | jme | heh what class to roll next ;\ |
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| 16:51.47 | NeoTron | I was actually considering such a spec |
| 16:52.06 | NeoTron | and I do have rather high crit now and usually hang with the boomkin/elemental shaman group :P |
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| 16:55.37 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: :( |
| 16:55.39 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r42071 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua: BigWigs: update Karazhan zhTW |
| 16:55.49 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: you just have to set your font again if you use SML |
| 16:55.54 | nevcairiel | i did |
| 16:56.01 | vhaarr | well works for me |
| 16:56.50 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Raid buffed over 30% usually |
| 16:57.02 | Gagorian | With capped hit |
| 16:57.02 | nevcairiel | it wont use the italic/bold fonts when SML is available |
| 16:57.17 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I know, think I said that in the commit |
| 16:57.31 | nevcairiel | but i dont use any SML fonts |
| 16:57.33 | nevcairiel | it just have SML running |
| 16:57.37 | nevcairiel | for other stuff. |
| 16:57.45 | vhaarr | CF2 should get menus for setting those specifically if SML is running |
| 16:57.50 | vhaarr | and register all its fonts |
| 16:57.54 | vhaarr | not just the 'normal' ones |
| 16:58.08 | Gagorian | NeoTron: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'Akir&n=Gagorian |
| 16:58.19 | Pheredhel | oh, I just found something nice how to do it in friendsfu |
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| 16:58.26 | nevcairiel | it should be able to match the SML fonts against its own font list, and use that if its there |
| 16:58.49 | Pheredhel | some simple recycling when using lots of subtables |
| 16:59.10 | Kirkburn | (when I say take a look, I mean, I'm going to play WoW, not that I'm going near vhaarr's code :P) |
| 16:59.21 | subsonic- | Can you not set a backdrop on a frame that's a CreateFontString? |
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| 16:59.53 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42072 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: cache :Parse results. saves +-1.7kib per retarget |
| 17:00.09 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: cant you just run a match on the internal clearfont.fonts table to check if its in there, and use that instead? |
| 17:00.19 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: indeed that is possible |
| 17:00.25 | vhaarr | I'm busy now, though, if you want to |
| 17:01.01 | NeoTron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai |
| 17:01.07 | NeoTron | Gimp spec for morogrim |
| 17:01.45 | NeoTron | despite the spec, I actually topped DPS on the latest hydross kill against 3 extremely solid warlocks |
| 17:02.13 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Morogrim spec? What? :P |
| 17:02.28 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42073 10AutoBar/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 17:02.28 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 17:02.28 | CIA-22 | - Fixed zhCN localization, synchronized translation entries with the latest enUS file |
| 17:02.29 | BankZ | so is WAU's Change Log feature broken? |
| 17:02.34 | NeoTron | Gagorian: shadowfury |
| 17:02.54 | NeoTron | we're still learning it so looking for every small edge we can get |
| 17:03.16 | Gagorian | Alright I guess. I wouldn't respec for it though, neither would any of our other locks. |
| 17:03.28 | Kirkburn | BankZ, what WAU? |
| 17:03.31 | Gagorian | It's pretty simple with pally tank and coordinated AoE |
| 17:03.56 | NeoTron | Gagorian: how's that darkmoon card? |
| 17:04.04 | Mikk | vhaarr: damnit, how do you find that stuff so quickly? i only found the global feed() function now. Do you only audit commits? =) |
| 17:04.08 | NeoTron | we don't have a pally tank |
| 17:04.20 | NeoTron | and unfortunately a simple respec really doesn't help |
| 17:04.24 | NeoTron | need the gear too |
| 17:04.30 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Pretty damn good |
| 17:04.31 | Kirkburn | The ClearFont code change seems to break all the design.lua stuff |
| 17:04.36 | Gagorian | Best trinket available for a lock imo |
| 17:04.45 | Kirkburn | I'm not getting /any/ of the changes design.lua does |
| 17:04.45 | KarlThePagan | hmmm, is there anything like aftercast (macro-able event triggers) built into AceEvent? |
| 17:04.50 | Gagorian | It's a constant +80 dmg on most fights |
| 17:05.03 | NeoTron | very nice |
| 17:05.11 | Mikk | vhaarr: ah, nvm, i see you _didn't_ in fact see it :P |
| 17:05.26 | NeoTron | any idea if the +crit icnreasing one is good? |
| 17:05.37 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42074 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: Whoups, my last commit to CoolDown created a global "feed()" function. Localized. |
| 17:05.45 | Gagorian | Nah, it's not |
| 17:05.55 | Gagorian | It scales down with increased crit rate, so it's only a few percent later on |
| 17:06.04 | NeoTron | on the last hydross fight I had 44% crits on shadow bolts for some reason |
| 17:06.06 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r42075 10ClearFont2/Core.lua: ClearFont2: use ClearFont fonts instead of SML Fonts if available |
| 17:06.09 | NeoTron | pretty insane |
| 17:06.11 | Gagorian | Lucky bastard :p |
| 17:06.29 | Gagorian | Well, boomkin + ele shaman helps (I usually get those too) |
| 17:06.38 | Gagorian | Afk for a few hours now |
| 17:06.41 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, when I just tried it, no changes worked, plus the Design.lua stuff actually seem to be called at all |
| 17:06.50 | Kirkburn | *didn't |
| 17:06.55 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 17:07.02 | nevcairiel | with my change? |
| 17:07.14 | Kirkburn | Obviously not, you only just did that :P |
| 17:07.33 | Kirkburn | However, I guess that might be fixed by it |
| 17:07.43 | nevcairiel | works for me again |
| 17:07.52 | Kirkburn | Esp if it starts using the bold and italic stuff |
| 17:08.11 | nevcairiel | it iterates through its own table like before, and only with no match, uses the SML font |
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| 17:08.26 | Kirkburn | (When I tried vhaarr's edit, nothing changed when I switched fonts) |
| 17:08.40 | Kirkburn | Shall try your edit in a short while |
| 17:08.51 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42076 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: |
| 17:08.51 | CIA-22 | oRA2 Resurrection: |
| 17:08.51 | CIA-22 | - Title doesn't steal mouse focus unless Alt is depressed |
| 17:08.51 | CIA-22 | - Add window scaling |
| 17:08.51 | CIA-22 | - Add alt+rightlick menu |
| 17:09.31 | [gk]Hotphoenix | Gagorian: take a look at the tooltip for spellfire/frozenweave setbonus its displaying the bonuses for the int rather than what you gain (dmg) |
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| 17:10.57 | NeoTron | Gagorian: I'm wondering if the 2 piece T4 bonus is better than skipping it and using the soul eater's handwraps |
| 17:12.06 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42077 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TempestKeep/TheEye/VoidReaver.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed localizations for Void Reaver. |
| 17:12.17 | Gnancy | Gagorian: Hmm should I go Ruin over UA? http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Gnancy ? |
| 17:12.34 | Dustwhisper | what class NeoTron? |
| 17:12.46 | NeoTron | Dustwhisper: lock |
| 17:12.52 | NeoTron | Gnancy: nope |
| 17:12.55 | Dustwhisper | oh |
| 17:13.10 | NeoTron | Gnancy: not enough spell hit - 10% of SB's will miss |
| 17:13.28 | zac | Gnancy: You need about 15% more crit for ruin to be near UA's damage output. |
| 17:13.48 | NeoTron | first thing a lock should do, regardless of talent spec, is ot get 16% spell hit |
| 17:13.55 | Gnancy | hmm alright then |
| 17:14.03 | NeoTron | once you have it, remove the 5 pts from affliction that buffs spell hit |
| 17:14.11 | BankZ | Anyone know of there is a slash command to set the Default set for ClosetGnome? |
| 17:14.44 | NeoTron | I must admit, not having imp life tap is a bit puzzling >:-) |
| 17:14.56 | Gnancy | eh I dont use it all that much anymore |
| 17:15.17 | Kirkburn | (BankZ, WAU 1.9.18's changelog is working for me) |
| 17:15.25 | Gnancy | leastways compared to DP |
| 17:15.36 | Codayus | Not just SBs that miss, but Soulshatter. A Soulshatter resist is a terrible thing. :-) |
| 17:15.38 | NeoTron | true |
| 17:15.44 | NeoTron | yes for sure |
| 17:15.51 | NeoTron | esp when people don't realize it CAN be resisted |
| 17:15.55 | NeoTron | and keep nuking.. :P |
| 17:16.18 | liquiem | only a dead lock is good lock |
| 17:16.38 | Gnancy | ah I remember the days when our aggro wipe was death |
| 17:17.24 | BankZ | Kirkbur: it works for some addons and not others |
| 17:17.25 | Gngsk | lol firemaw before the combat rez nerf |
| 17:17.30 | BankZ | like it doesnt work for Pitbull |
| 17:17.31 | Gngsk | raid leader: warlocks die now |
| 17:17.59 | Gnancy | hehehe |
| 17:18.28 | NeoTron | never raided as a lock pre-BC |
| 17:18.33 | Codayus | I'd also think that Imp Life Tap > Dark Pact. With Siphon Life you shouldn't have health issues, and Life Tap is more efficient, no? |
| 17:18.33 | NeoTron | I was a raiding holy priest |
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| 17:19.32 | Codayus | Or, it is once your Imp runs OOM, anyhow. |
| 17:19.35 | Cryect | Gnngsk: more like broodlord before the combat rez nerf |
| 17:19.36 | Codayus | nm |
| 17:19.42 | Cryect | or ebonroc |
| 17:19.44 | NeoTron | any locks have 5/5 shadow embrace by chance? |
| 17:19.56 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42078 10ClosetGnome/locales/zhCN.lua: ClosetGnome: zhCN translation updated |
| 17:20.18 | NeoTron | wondering if it's at all worth it |
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| 17:21.09 | durcyn | hardly. 1/5 is useful for soul siphon solo, but if 5% damage from a raid boss kills your tank, your tank deserves it |
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| 17:22.16 | NeoTron | well |
| 17:22.18 | NeoTron | 5% is 5% |
| 17:22.35 | durcyn | and 5% isn't shit with someone who's getting external heals |
| 17:22.50 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: while you may be right, that's a hugely flawed argument. |
| 17:22.56 | NeoTron | how much armor do you need for an additional 5% damage mitigation? |
| 17:22.59 | BankZ | Anyone know of there is a slash command to set the Default set for ClosetGnome? I wanta create a macro that sets the default set |
| 17:23.03 | Codayus | It's spike damage kills the tank; 5% smaller spikes is obviously good. |
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| 17:23.18 | harldephin | is there a way to disable ANY font outlines and shadows in the game ? |
| 17:23.24 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: 5% -is- 5%, and the game is built upon lots of little things adding up. a few percent from DS, a few percent from TC, a few percent here, and there, it all adds up. |
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| 17:23.55 | NeoTron | heck even gear is like that. minor improvements |
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| 17:24.05 | NightHawkAtWork | yep |
| 17:24.21 | Saroz | new clearfont = ftw |
| 17:24.53 | Wobin | new cf? |
| 17:24.53 | durcyn | perhaps. that's situational at best, though. |
| 17:25.12 | NeoTron | now of course, if the tank has 65% mitigation and it's a 10k hit |
| 17:25.44 | Codayus | 5% less damage isn't particularly situational. I mean, it's good in the situation that the tank is tanking damage... :-p |
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| 17:26.02 | NeoTron | it reduces the hit from 4500 to 4275.. |
| 17:26.10 | durcyn | not if it means some healer is now overhealing by 5%. 6 of one, half a dozen of another. |
| 17:26.13 | NeoTron | or is my math flawed? |
| 17:26.21 | NeoTron | 10000 * 0.95 * 0.45 vs 10000 * 0.45 |
| 17:26.22 | harldephin | talking of fonts, i always copy the Calibri1.ttf to replace CalibriItalic.ttf and the two other styled font files, because i hate bold or italic fonts. but i'd also like to remove shadows and outlines. |
| 17:26.53 | NeoTron | durcyn: have you ever survived with just a few hundred HP lefT? if you have chances are the tank has (unless you are the tank) |
| 17:26.57 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: given that they're both percentage multipliers, its hard to screw that math up :P |
| 17:27.25 | NeoTron | I know people laughed at me pre-BC for getting stamina gear to my priest for AQ40.. yet I survived in sartura several times after getting 3 whirlwind attacks in sequence |
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| 17:27.43 | NeoTron | NightHawkAtWork: well sometimes blizzard does X / Y vs X * Y... like haste rating |
| 17:27.54 | NeoTron | so who the heck knows :P |
| 17:28.23 | Codayus | NeoTron: Your math is slightly flawed becuase 65% + 45% ~= 100%.... |
| 17:28.25 | NightHawkAtWork | I think attack/cast speed is the only particularly wonky thing like that ;) |
| 17:28.25 | NeoTron | i.e 10000 / 1.05 vs 10000 * 0,95 |
| 17:28.37 | NeoTron | Codayus: err. right |
| 17:29.34 | NeoTron | 3400 vs 3325 then |
| 17:29.46 | NeoTron | that's a savings of 175 dmg |
| 17:29.48 | Codayus | 3500 no? |
| 17:29.57 | Codayus | But uh...yes, 175 is the delta. |
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| 17:30.03 | Antiarc|Work | 30% haste means you get 30% more hits per second, so if you have a 2.0 speed weapon, you get 0.5 hits per second. 0.5 * 1.3 = 0.65 hits per second = 1.538 speed. |
| 17:30.15 | NeoTron | for a 20k hit you save 300 dmg.. |
| 17:30.22 | Antiarc|Work | (which is also 2 / 1.3) |
| 17:30.39 | Codayus | 5% reduction is...quite valauble. Ask a tank what they'd pay for that much mitigation vs magic damage. :-) |
| 17:30.40 | NeoTron | doesn't really seem worth it if you do that math |
| 17:30.56 | Antiarc|Work | 5% reduction is basically a 5% increase in HP. |
| 17:31.04 | Antiarc|Work | It increases the buffer size. |
| 17:31.14 | NeoTron | true |
| 17:31.21 | Antiarc|Work | Ask a tank if they'd like a 5% HP increase and they will emphatically answer "yes" |
| 17:31.34 | Codayus | (On hard physical fights, tanks will often chain drink Ironshield Potions which are ~7% reduction in physical damage. |
| 17:31.35 | NeoTron | the question is if it's worth 5 talent points |
| 17:32.36 | NeoTron | I'm hesitant to not pick up imp Howl of terror with that many pts in affliction |
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| 17:32.48 | Antiarc|Work | Imp HoT is really a PVP thing, IMO |
| 17:32.49 | NeoTron | but I don't really want to nerf the imp drain/life tap talents |
| 17:32.55 | Antiarc|Work | Awesome if you're doing any arena. |
| 17:33.00 | NeoTron | there's been times in SSC where it'd been nice |
| 17:33.00 | abyssichate | Is there an altenartive to Antagonist to track buff's duration on hostile targets? |
| 17:33.04 | zac | NeoTron: 1 warlock with 5/5 shadow embrace is all you need, it's not hard to find 5 points. |
| 17:33.05 | NeoTron | and it's really nice in heroics at times |
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| 17:33.21 | NeoTron | nightfall is another possible one to take the points from |
| 17:33.25 | Gnancy | Antiarc: is more of a pvp thing yes but its very helpful for farming and certain fights |
| 17:33.27 | durcyn | imp hot saves my ass on kael trash |
| 17:33.37 | shieldb | aww /cry at skin settings reset in omen |
| 17:33.43 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: It comes with profile support! |
| 17:33.45 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42079 10NShakedown/ (16 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:33.45 | CIA-22 | NShakedown: initial commit |
| 17:33.45 | CIA-22 | - Shake down your UI: display the volatile elements such as combat text, raid warnings, status bars to ensure they don't overlap. |
| 17:33.50 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: Go to profile -> Copy from -> Default |
| 17:33.51 | NeoTron | it's possible to drop fel concentration for raiding |
| 17:33.56 | Antiarc|Work | That should import your old settings. |
| 17:33.59 | NeoTron | but that really makes farming a lot more painful |
| 17:34.08 | Codayus | A *lot* more painful. >< |
| 17:34.12 | Mech0z | is it necesary to have libs by EVERY addon? I just found out I have alot of the same libs in different mods lib folder |
| 17:34.13 | Gnancy | but usally if you raid you farm |
| 17:34.21 | NeoTron | it makes fear/shadowbolt + dots the way to go |
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| 17:34.27 | shieldb | nah, still back to default |
| 17:34.30 | shieldb | but it isn't a big deal |
| 17:34.33 | Antiarc|Work | Mech0z: No, that's what disembedded libs are for. |
| 17:34.36 | jme | eh, roll a hunter for farming imo :) |
| 17:34.37 | Daemona | Mech0z it will only load the latest rev of every lib |
| 17:34.46 | NeoTron | jme: my hunter is only level 42 ;-) |
| 17:34.52 | Daemona | to speed up load times, run standalone libs |
| 17:34.58 | Gnancy | eh im not an altaholic :P |
| 17:34.59 | jme | NeoTron: ah |
| 17:35.01 | Mech0z | well the thing is my addonfolder is 75mb which is crasy imo |
| 17:35.03 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 17:35.03 | shieldb | it pulled the easy to set settings back like if it was locked or not |
| 17:35.05 | Gnancy | I have a lock and an spriest |
| 17:35.07 | Gnancy | go fig |
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| 17:35.20 | jme | Gnancy: shadowmuch? |
| 17:35.21 | durcyn | NeoTron: i'm not sure i agree, fel conc is marginal at best for solo pve |
| 17:35.24 | Mech0z | and I want to send it to a m8 who cant use aceupdater because his .net is fucked |
| 17:35.30 | shieldb | but not the visual options (textures, column spacing, fonts) |
| 17:35.30 | durcyn | so few things are immune to fear anymore |
| 17:35.34 | NightHawkAtWork | Mech0z: 75mb outof... what.. maybe 80gb on the real low end? its trivial :P |
| 17:35.34 | NeoTron | durcyn: depends on your soloing method |
| 17:35.35 | Gnarfoz | since the last patch, and since most addons using embeds.xml, after the inital login (which has also been faster), reloads and relogs (those that don't close the entire client) have been blazing fast |
| 17:35.41 | NeoTron | I never understood the dot + fear method really |
| 17:35.49 | NeoTron | esp now when the fear dotting is nerfed |
| 17:35.56 | Codayus | It wasn't THAT nerfed. |
| 17:36.12 | NeoTron | of course if I for example farm consortium rep I just run and dot stuff and don't really drain life at all |
| 17:36.15 | Codayus | It works fine, but it's always going to be slower, riskier, and need more attention. |
| 17:36.23 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: Thanks, I'll see if I can fix that. |
| 17:36.29 | Gnancy | marginal at best? |
| 17:36.30 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r42080 10SimpleSelfRebuff/libs/: |
| 17:36.30 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 17:36.30 | CIA-22 | - fixed typo in an externals URL |
| 17:36.38 | Mech0z | NightHawkAtWork its just anyoing that it takes this much space when I only have images in addons from cartograhper adn rest of the mods only give me text |
| 17:36.41 | Codayus | Whereas I can drain tank while asleep. :-) |
| 17:36.44 | durcyn | eh, most of the time you can just drop ua/corr/coa/siphon and let 8 mobs hit you. 3/3 FSW is retarded. |
| 17:36.47 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:36.56 | Antiarc|Work | Morning |
| 17:36.57 | NeoTron | without UA it makes that method harder |
| 17:37.02 | Mech0z | so is there any way of reducing the amount of libs or removing them and having them in the global addon folder |
| 17:37.04 | shieldb | oh, and I believe the bugsack fatality sound is actually from worms originally, not bugsack |
| 17:37.13 | sedatedChipmunk | yea |
| 17:37.14 | durcyn | empowered corruption and improved COA make up for the lack of damage from UA, usually |
| 17:37.15 | sedatedChipmunk | it is |
| 17:37.15 | NeoTron | esp when farminf fire elementals |
| 17:37.24 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42081 10NShakedown/NShakedown.lua: NShakedown: set version and date |
| 17:37.34 | Gnancy | or you have have emp corrupt + ua |
| 17:37.44 | Gnancy | if fact if you have us you have emp corr |
| 17:38.10 | Gnancy | i dont think imp coa is = to ua |
| 17:38.20 | harldephin | Mech0z: as told before, that's what SAL (StandAloneLibraries) are for. load SAL and you can delete the libs in each add-on's directory (as long as they're included in the SAL) |
| 17:38.35 | NeoTron | ugh I can't remove pts from fel concentration and move them to shadow embrace |
| 17:38.43 | Mech0z | harldephin but then I need to delete them each time I use wowaceupdater I guess? |
| 17:38.48 | NeoTron | well I can but I can't get rid of it completely due to pts requirements |
| 17:38.54 | hyperChipmunk | run wau w/o externals |
| 17:38.57 | durcyn | NeoTron: toss 'em in Suppression |
| 17:39.02 | harldephin | Mech0z: no, that.. it what the Update without externals function is for |
| 17:39.03 | NeoTron | don't need supression :P |
| 17:39.06 | Mech0z | ah |
| 17:39.06 | harldephin | it=is |
| 17:39.07 | Mech0z | nice |
| 17:39.07 | NeoTron | 16% hit |
| 17:39.21 | Kirkburn | Wobin, didn't you hear? Mikk started ClearerFont-NG :P |
| 17:39.25 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42082 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: add zhCN translation for SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 |
| 17:39.25 | durcyn | imp drain soul, imp lifetap, soul siphon? |
| 17:39.30 | Mech0z | ok then I just need to find all the libs :o, but thanks |
| 17:39.33 | NeoTron | yeah got them |
| 17:39.53 | durcyn | i'd head to emp corr or imp coa next then |
| 17:39.58 | durcyn | assuming you can get away with coa in raids |
| 17:40.00 | NeoTron | full |
| 17:40.02 | NeoTron | :) |
| 17:40.05 | harldephin | Mech0z: SAL is a separate package, so you don't need to manually download them separately |
| 17:40.07 | durcyn | have coex? |
| 17:40.09 | Gnancy | i dont have imp coa and i really dont miss it mysel |
| 17:40.11 | NeoTron | yep |
| 17:40.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42083 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua): Omen: db.profile.Skins -> db.account.Skins |
| 17:40.18 | durcyn | well then wtf. |
| 17:40.27 | durcyn | you obviously have too many talent points |
| 17:40.27 | NeoTron | problem is the tier soul siphon is on |
| 17:40.30 | jme | hyperChipmunk: if you download SAL is there anything else you need to do other than grab things without externals? |
| 17:40.32 | durcyn | leave a few off. |
| 17:40.33 | Gnancy | :P |
| 17:40.53 | NeoTron | actually the tier nightfall is on |
| 17:41.00 | durcyn | just spec 20/20/20 and forget the past point, that's the ticket |
| 17:41.01 | NeoTron | I can remove nightfall |
| 17:41.10 | durcyn | last, rather |
| 17:41.12 | Mech0z | harldephin so that contains all the libs? |
| 17:41.20 | Gnancy | its rare we have 3 locks or more in a raid so CoA is the Curse forgotten |
| 17:41.43 | NeoTron | need 15 pts in the first 3 tiers |
| 17:41.51 | NeoTron | Gnancy: heh we usually have 4-5 |
| 17:42.06 | Gnancy | 5 thats nice |
| 17:42.16 | Gnancy | we have had 4 at times |
| 17:42.20 | Gnancy | usally its 2-3 tho |
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| 17:42.41 | subsonic | There's should be some sort of spec, where if you don't use any of your points, you get one spell / combat talent that hits for 10k every 5 minutes |
| 17:43.17 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=lozpoaim4zkt1 |
| 17:43.32 | jme | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace_Alternatives_to_Common_Addons <- simpleMiniMap should be on the square minimap list, imo |
| 17:43.37 | NeoTron | the top 6 people is 5 locks and a boomkin |
| 17:43.57 | Gnancy | a mage at 10 |
| 17:44.12 | Gnancy | and a druid over a shammy |
| 17:44.16 | NeoTron | hydross |
| 17:44.22 | NeoTron | shammy isn't very effective on poison phase |
| 17:44.26 | Gnancy | ah ah |
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| 17:44.35 | NeoTron | we had a horribly bad hydross evening - wiped for close to 2 hrs :( |
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| 17:44.53 | NeoTron | people doing stupid stuff, a key healer absent etc |
| 17:45.03 | somber | good evenig guys |
| 17:45.07 | Gnancy | oh boy get me all excited we have hydross tonight |
| 17:45.11 | harldephin | Mech0z: SAL contains all libs which it contains (it's not part of Ace(2) and it does not contain ALL libraries). WAU will automatically not unpack the libraries contained in the SAL when it downloads/updates an add-on. |
| 17:45.18 | somber | any |
| 17:45.29 | somber | any macbook users online? |
| 17:45.35 | jme | somber: yes |
| 17:45.53 | harldephin | Mech0z: if the add-on downloaded needs additional libraries not included in the SAL, then you'll need to download those separately. if they're mentioned the X-Embeds section of the .toc then WAU will automatically download those too, if you enable the "Automatic Dependency Download" option. |
| 17:45.54 | somber | what kind of macbook jme? |
| 17:46.11 | NeoTron | 7 wipes on hydross, 1 wipe (with a fewe ppl new to the fight and we forgot to explain it) on lurker.. heh |
| 17:46.13 | jme | somber: macbook pro, 2.33ghz, 2gb ram, 15", ati radeon x1600 |
| 17:46.21 | jme | somber: uh... 120gb drive |
| 17:46.31 | somber | T_T damn,,, need someone with new geforce 8600 |
| 17:46.36 | Mech0z | harldephin thanks alot |
| 17:46.46 | somber | i have load of problem.. cant paly with 7-8 FPS |
| 17:46.49 | jme | somber: they have geforce cards now? |
| 17:47.10 | somber | yeah.. they upgraded 20 days ago or so.. |
| 17:47.18 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, tested! Working! |
| 17:47.29 | jme | somber: wow, i'm obsolete now :( |
| 17:47.42 | somber | u are lucky m8 |
| 17:47.45 | jme | wonder why they made the switch |
| 17:47.46 | Gnancy | Kirkburn: nice now I can use Emblem with CF |
| 17:47.50 | somber | new |
| 17:47.57 | Mech0z | so when I toggled download dependicys and downleaded the SAL I can delete all the libs folders in my current mods? |
| 17:47.58 | trh | jme: added smm to the page |
| 17:48.00 | somber | new chipset doesnt work |
| 17:48.05 | jme | trh: cool |
| 17:48.12 | somber | i play with 7-8 fps... |
| 17:48.18 | Kirkburn | Gnancy, yes indeed |
| 17:48.18 | jme | somber: ouch :( |
| 17:48.23 | Kirkburn | Just tested that too :P |
| 17:48.26 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42084 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: fix Zul'Farak |
| 17:48.28 | somber | its seems i have pentium2 |
| 17:48.31 | jme | somber: if i tone down the graphics settings a bit i can play with 30-40 fps |
| 17:48.51 | Kirkburn | Pentium 2 ... isn't that pre-millenium? |
| 17:48.57 | somber | i try to use bootcamp and play under windoz |
| 17:49.13 | somber | its 3 days im after this issue and i cannot find the solution |
| 17:49.19 | jme | somber: have you tried installing it in OSX and playing it? |
| 17:49.39 | somber | ofc.. i played yesterday night in The eye |
| 17:49.46 | somber | i was close to crash my laptop |
| 17:50.01 | somber | sometimes i reached 3 FPS |
| 17:50.07 | somber | with all details to LOW |
| 17:50.17 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42085 10NShakedown/ (. Addons/ Icons/ Libs/): NShakedown: add externals and default log message |
| 17:50.35 | somber | the strange is i cannot find anything on the net |
| 17:50.45 | jme | somber: bootcamp support might be buggy with the newer nvidia cards, i haven't kept up with it |
| 17:50.45 | somber | the machine is still too new |
| 17:50.49 | jme | yeah |
| 17:51.27 | somber | there is a post on macrumors... they tested the game and it works better than under OSX |
| 17:51.38 | somber | with my same configuration |
| 17:52.17 | harldephin | Mech0z: as long as they are either contained in the SAL or mentioned in the X-Embed section of the .toc, you should experience no disadvantages by deleting those libraries included with the add-ons, yes. |
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| 17:54.38 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: wtf does visor work differently with Ace (original) enabled? |
| 17:55.02 | hyperChipmunk | I have hidden buttons, disable Ace, and they come back |
| 17:55.12 | hyperChipmunk | and they won't go away unless I enable Ace |
| 17:55.32 | Daemona | do you use micromenu or somesuch @ hyperChipmunk |
| 17:55.41 | NeoTron | better question - what do you have the original ace for? :P (I used it for a hacked version of sellomatic until I found a newer version) |
| 17:55.46 | hyperChipmunk | Daemona: no |
| 17:55.55 | hyperChipmunk | NeoTron: I had it for CommandHistory |
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| 17:57.37 | harldephin | Mech0z: the SAL may include additional libraries, that's not been needed by any of your add-ons so far, containing unexpected/unwanted functionality (e.g. "Stitch" - basically that's the only one i know falling into that category as it acts more like an add-on than a library). that all depends on how many add-ons you actually have and how many libraries of the SAL package are needed by those add-ons. |
| 17:57.40 | Saroz | ckknight, piing |
| 17:58.12 | Pheredhel | http://ace.pastey.net/70008 i get an error "attepts to index global self, a nil value" , and don't know why, any idea? |
| 17:58.17 | Mech0z | harldephin year I got quite alot of addons I have no idear of what is doing |
| 17:58.28 | Mech0z | but what about the mods containing AceLibrary folder |
| 17:58.43 | trh | Pheredhel: how does the function get called? |
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| 17:59.19 | Pheredhel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.25 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42086 10NShakedown/NShakedown.lua: NShakedown: set revision and date |
| 17:59.27 | trh | Pheredhel: call with self:recy... |
| 17:59.42 | Pheredhel | ? |
| 17:59.45 | trh | Pheredhel: or with self.rec...(self) |
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| 17:59.55 | NeoTron | Anyone know if Shadow Embrace works on fights like Hydross? |
| 17:59.58 | Pheredhel | ok |
| 18:00.02 | trh | Pheredhel: 'self' is basically the first argument of the functio |
| 18:00.06 | trh | Pheredhel: n |
| 18:00.08 | NeoTron | magic damage done but using phusical attack mechanics.. |
| 18:00.18 | trh | Pheredhel: if you call them with :, it's added automatically |
| 18:00.25 | liquiem | can i link items in other llocales than client locale? |
| 18:00.28 | trh | Pheredhel: when calling with '.' you have to do it manually |
| 18:00.41 | liquiem | for example deDE item with enGB client |
| 18:00.51 | harldephin | Mech0z: AceLibrary is a part of Ace2. if you've got Ace and Ace2 as separate add-ons you don't need to have their libraries included with the add-ons as well. |
| 18:00.58 | trh | liquiem: yes |
| 18:01.11 | trh | liquiem: the item link will be english |
| 18:01.13 | Pheredhel | oh, i will just call it with : |
| 18:01.16 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42087 10CooldownCount/Locale.zhCN.lua: |
| 18:01.16 | CIA-22 | CooldownCount: |
| 18:01.16 | CIA-22 | - comment out the lines with "true" to get rid of the error message |
| 18:01.19 | trh | liquiem: or in the name you sent it with |
| 18:01.21 | Fin | what's wrong with this code: local onevar, anothervar -- ? |
| 18:01.27 | Pheredhel | the . was not intendet here |
| 18:01.28 | Fin | as the first line of a function |
| 18:01.37 | liquiem | trh, how? dont say i have to construct the item link |
| 18:02.01 | Mech0z | But why does it download babblezone :( I use eng dont need localization |
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| 18:02.39 | Fin | I don't understand why it's causing errors |
| 18:02.39 | trh | liquiem: i think the function was called itemstring or something |
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| 18:02.51 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.05 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 18:03.07 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 18:03.11 | Antiarc|Work | Foo.Bar(Foo) == Foo:Bar() |
| 18:03.36 | hyperChipmunk | that's totally NOT good syntax |
| 18:03.37 | trh | Pheredhel: it's .lua - look into the lua reference manual about function calls/tables =) |
| 18:03.51 | liquiem | trh, thanks, i'll search for it |
| 18:04.05 | trh | liquiem: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TYPE_ItemString |
| 18:04.11 | hyperChipmunk | reeeeeeead the pil |
| 18:04.34 | Pheredhel | nah, normaly i call my functions with :, and already read it, just, sometimes i don't really know where to look for the errors... |
| 18:04.43 | Pheredhel | as it just pointed me to the function |
| 18:05.06 | trh | Antiarc: totally agreeing on the not good syntax :( |
| 18:06.02 | trh | Pheredhel: still useful to know if you put a self.myfunction to a func = call for dewdrop or something and wondering yourself why you can't reference self in that function if it gets called :) |
| 18:06.04 | harldephin | Mech0z: Babble-2.2 is a separate add-on and not included with Ace2. if you don't want/need Babble, then you don't have to load it. some add-ons relying on Babble may stop functioning though. |
| 18:06.11 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: that's totally not good grammar =P |
| 18:06.18 | Pheredhel | yeah, thanks :) |
| 18:06.32 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: your face is totally not good hygene |
| 18:06.49 | Wobin | It's true. I rub it on hyper every chance I get. |
| 18:07.11 | hyperChipmunk | oh yea? well...your mom! |
| 18:07.19 | NeoTron | Wobin: what do you rub on hyper? scented oil? |
| 18:07.30 | Wobin | my face =) |
| 18:07.39 | hyperChipmunk | he's a nuzzler |
| 18:07.42 | Wobin | thus the ungood hygiene |
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| 18:08.03 | hyperChipmunk | and you remark on MY grammar |
| 18:08.16 | Wobin | well naturally |
| 18:08.20 | Wobin | I'm a critic =) |
| 18:08.22 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 18:08.41 | Mech0z | harldephin well its included in that standalonelibrary which I hoped was one folder so it was easy to overview :( |
| 18:08.42 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42088 10Grid/GridLocale-zhCN.lua: Grid: fixed zhCN translation |
| 18:09.24 | Pheredhel | yay, cleanup and the addon should be ready for final testing :) |
| 18:09.58 | Mech0z | got so many mods in the addons folder and have no idear what 75% of them aer :(( |
| 18:10.06 | phyber | is there some trick to making CowTip QuestFu friendly? |
| 18:10.29 | phyber | the QuestFu line appears for a few seconds then CowTip seems to refresh and get rid of whatever QuestFu added. |
| 18:11.08 | Ominous | phyber: yell at ckknight =P, it will probabilly requre a dogtag to be added for it though then it will work |
| 18:11.58 | durcyn | he's snarfing every other addon's tooltip lines. it breaks honorfu as well. |
| 18:12.17 | durcyn | snarf is such a great word, it should be used far more frequently than it is. |
| 18:12.28 | trh | it basically breaks every addon's tooltip that uses GameTooltip:AddLine |
| 18:12.46 | trh | when the addon hooks the tooltips settext function and uses addline there it works |
| 18:12.51 | trh | nontheless it should be fixed =) |
| 18:15.05 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42089 10AuldLangSyne/lib/: AuldLangSyne: Add AceModuleCore-2.0 to the libs. |
| 18:15.20 | harldephin | Mech0z: basically, the SAL package only contains the information which add-ons/libraries WAU should download, but each of them is a separate add-on developed or maintained by another person, so they can't be penned up in one single directory that way. you could rewrite the .toc to have it that way, but some things might stop working if they rely on a specific directory structure. |
| 18:15.46 | Wobin | Kemayo: modularising ALS? |
| 18:16.07 | Kemayo | Wobin: Yup. I also added a fubar plugin. |
| 18:16.57 | Kemayo | Wobin: Actually, I modularized it last night. I just forgot to add the external. :D |
| 18:16.57 | Antiarc|Work | http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6460/tenwaysw492ye2.jpg |
| 18:17.13 | ckknight_ | Kemayo: when do you add the questfu line? |
| 18:17.13 | Wobin | what's the modularisation? |
| 18:17.32 | Kemayo | ckknight_: I believe I hook SetUnit/SetItem. |
| 18:17.46 | ckknight_ | Kemayo: you should hook the script OnTooltipSetUnit, OnTooltipSetItem |
| 18:18.25 | ckknight | Kemayo: should fix any issues with CowTip, though I'm surprised that hooking SetUnit didn't work properly |
| 18:18.55 | Kemayo | Wobin: Broken up into notes, prettier friends list display, syncing, backups, and the fubar plugin. |
| 18:19.41 | Kemayo | ckknight: Ah, there we go. I was registering for UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT and doing it there. |
| 18:20.37 | ckknight | Kemayo: ah, yea, not the best place, imho |
| 18:20.57 | ckknight | Kemayo: so I say hook OnTooltipSetUnit/OnTooltipSetItem |
| 18:20.59 | ckknight | cleanest way |
| 18:21.13 | Kemayo | ckknight: Yeah... I wrote the tooltip stuff something like a year ago now, when I was very new to the API. :) |
| 18:21.27 | ckknight | well, that API was added in 2.0 or so |
| 18:21.28 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:21.50 | Kemayo | Looks like I updated for the OnTooltipSetItem -- not sure why I didn't do it for the Unit. |
| 18:22.16 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r42090 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: frFR Update |
| 18:22.24 | harldephin | Mech0z: you're free to delete directories manually, edit the filelist.wau or: (much more convenient) just disable certain unneeded add-ons/libraries in WoW's login screen. but if an add-on includes a library (e.g. Babble-2.2) in its .toc, chances are good that it needs that library to function properly and you should have that library either in that add-on's directory or as a SAL. |
| 18:22.32 | Fin | tooltips! gah! |
| 18:22.55 | ckknight | Fin: not that hard :-P |
| 18:23.03 | trh | Fin: GameTooltip:AddLine("text"); GameTooltip:Show(); |
| 18:23.06 | Fin | instead, my carefully written functions have developed a new, even better feature: it HIDES the tooltips completely! |
| 18:23.19 | Fin | trh: yeah, I got past that bit, but thanks :) |
| 18:23.26 | Pheredhel | ckknight: about ParserLib not reporting the unitid: http://ace.pastey.net/69940 (broke the sheep myself) and it's only player that is not reportet, party works |
| 18:23.27 | phyber | ckknight: [2007/06/28 17:24:53-2279-x73]: CowTip-r41964\HealthBar\HealthBar.lua:159: attempt to index upvalue 'healthBar' (a nil value) |
| 18:23.53 | phyber | same happens for powerBar |
| 18:25.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42091 10CowTip/ (HealthBar/HealthBar.lua PowerBar/PowerBar.lua): CowTip - bugfix |
| 18:25.40 | Fin | OK, I give up, here come the beginner questions: |
| 18:25.51 | jme | shields up! |
| 18:25.51 | Wobin | "To get to the other side" |
| 18:26.02 | Fin | first, do I hook GameTooltip:OnTooltipSetUnit like this: |
| 18:26.14 | Fin | self:SecureHookScript(GameTooltip, 'OnTooltipSetUnit') |
| 18:26.25 | Fin | (using AceHook 2.1) |
| 18:26.28 | Fin | +? |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r42092 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/koKR.lua): |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-22 | ClassTimer: |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-22 | -Added onClick to groups to either enable the group/disable it or if its the spell types to enable/disable everything that is in the group |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-22 | -Added more local functions at start |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-22 | -Update koKR |
| 18:27.12 | Fin | and then create a function MyMod:OnTooltipSetUnit() |
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| 18:27.41 | Fin | where's Thrae when I need him :( |
| 18:27.58 | Fin | hello krka, get your problems sorted with your machine? |
| 18:28.06 | ckknight | Fin: yea, that'd work |
| 18:28.07 | krka | yeah... possibly |
| 18:28.08 | krka | time will tell |
| 18:28.17 | krka | this time i am more confident in the setup |
| 18:28.46 | Gnarfoz | ]<trh> Fin: GameTooltip:AddLine("text"); GameTooltip:Show(); <-- still getting disappearing info lines :< |
| 18:28.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42093 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - possibly fix bug in dispel events where the player is not picked up as the source |
| 18:29.01 | Fin | ckknight: thanks |
| 18:29.06 | trh | Gnarfoz: ask ckknight =) |
| 18:29.10 | Fin | next one: |
| 18:29.22 | Fin | do I need this in my :OnTooltipSetUnit() function: |
| 18:29.23 | Fin | GameTooltip:SetOwner(UIParent, 'ANCHOR_PRESERVE') |
| 18:29.27 | Fin | ? |
| 18:30.09 | Fin | Gnarfoz: I'm not sure I'm the one to ask for help, if you were asking for help... sorry |
| 18:30.28 | Gnarfoz | Fin: nah, was directed at trh, wo redirected me to ckk :) |
| 18:30.40 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: I'm still getting the "line is there when I mouse over an unit, disappears a second later" stuff with VanasKoS's pvp stat lines. trh says he just uses GameTooltip:AddLine + :Show() |
| 18:30.43 | ckknight | Fin: okay, you're making it way too complicated, so you know |
| 18:30.47 | ckknight | you don't need to :Show |
| 18:30.54 | ckknight | it's pointless if you do it in OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:31.10 | Kemayo | ckknight: Didn't realize that -- it handles the sizing itself in that case? |
| 18:31.10 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: trh is probably just doing it in the wrong place. |
| 18:31.28 | Fin | ckknight: I'm following the advice I was given; I'm afraid I'm still learning |
| 18:31.29 | Antiarc|Work | I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you, but I get the feeling that you don't like it |
| 18:31.29 | ckknight | Kemayo: no, it's that OnTooltipSetUnit always happens right before OnShow |
| 18:31.32 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42094 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tooltips/Tooltips.lua: |
| 18:31.32 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: (drycode) |
| 18:31.32 | CIA-22 | - Tooltips: OnTooltipSetUnit instead of UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT. (Not sure how I missed this when 2.0.3 hit.) |
| 18:31.34 | trh | ckknight: i'm doing it on the unit_mouseover_something event =) |
| 18:31.34 | Antiarc|Work | What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies. |
| 18:31.37 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe you don't like monsters so much. Maybe I used too many monkeys. |
| 18:31.40 | Antiarc|Work | Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
| 18:31.42 | ckknight | trh: bad trh! no banana! |
| 18:31.46 | Kemayo | phyber: That should probably fix your cowtip issue. |
| 18:31.51 | trh | ckknight: works with tinytip, original blizzard tooltip and so on =) |
| 18:31.57 | ckknight | trh: what you want to do instead is hook OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:31.59 | trh | ckknight: so i guess cowtip should be fine with it too =) |
| 18:32.01 | ckknight | it's much, much cleaner |
| 18:32.06 | ckknight | no, it shouldn't |
| 18:32.17 | ckknight | cause you're doing it the haphazard backwards way that won't work all the time |
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| 18:32.35 | ckknight | not to slight you |
| 18:32.40 | ckknight | just saying, it's icky |
| 18:32.50 | ckknight | instead, hook OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:32.53 | ckknight | add your line |
| 18:32.55 | Fin | ckknight: what's the simpler way to do it? |
| 18:32.56 | ckknight | don't even call :Show |
| 18:32.59 | trh | ckknight: but ontooltipsetunit gets called more often than mouseover_unit :/ |
| 18:33.36 | ckknight | trh: right, because it happens outside the world frame, as well as at times when people call it manually |
| 18:33.56 | ckknight | so instead of relying on a worldframe-centric way of handling the mouseover tooltip, use a universal approach. |
| 18:33.58 | trh | ckknight: the problem with that is, that i only want to display additional infos on mouseovers |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42095 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tooltips/Tooltips.lua: |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: (drycode) |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-22 | - Tooltips: Accept the gospel of ckknight, and no longer call :Show for the OnTooltip methods. |
| 18:34.27 | Fin | ckknight: what you just recommended to trh is what I'm trying to do... but you said that's making it way too complicated? I don't understand :( |
| 18:34.34 | Gnarfoz | how is that a problem? |
| 18:34.34 | trh | ckknight: i could check for unitname("mouseover") in the hook, but that aint a good solution either |
| 18:34.45 | ckknight | trh: UnitIsUnit(unit, "mouseover") |
| 18:34.47 | ckknight | tada. |
| 18:34.51 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:35.08 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42096 10NShakedown/ (Addons/SCT.lua NShakedown.lua StandardUI.lua): NShakedown: |
| 18:35.15 | Gnarfoz | you don't want to do it for unitframe tooltips (what other situation is there, where the unit is not 'mouseover' for "setunit"?) |
| 18:35.23 | Kemayo | trh: Also, GameTooltip:IsUnit(unit) |
| 18:35.31 | ckknight | that works as well |
| 18:35.41 | Fin | ooh |
| 18:35.45 | ckknight | Kemayo: see, if you call :Show, it causes a bunch of extra calculations with resizing and such, and it's just not needed |
| 18:35.59 | Fin | I was using GameTooltip:GetUnit() and UnitIsPlayer() |
| 18:36.16 | Saroz | ckknight did you see my banzai patch? |
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| 18:36.23 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: what happened to removing agro gian bar? |
| 18:36.28 | Kemayo | Fin: Yeah, for some reason the wowwiki widget api wasn't updated with all the new methods, so IsUnit was very easy to miss. |
| 18:36.30 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42097 10Recount/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Recount - Adds summary page in the detail window (click the magnification glass, need a better icon). Currently no means of reporting the data here |
| 18:36.39 | ckknight | Saroz: no, I didn't |
| 18:36.48 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: Should still be there. Lemme check. |
| 18:37.09 | Fin | ckknight: pretty please will you explain why I'm making it too complicated? sugar on top? :) |
| 18:37.13 | Kemayo | ckknight: No arguments here -- I was just doing it because I was doing the bare minimum required to make my old code work in the new scheme. :) |
| 18:37.21 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: awesome. even more detail to mathcraft over :D |
| 18:37.24 | ckknight | Fin: show me your code |
| 18:37.31 | ckknight | Kemayo: alright :-) |
| 18:37.42 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: nvm im blind |
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| 18:38.03 | Fin | ckknight: sure, but why did you say I was making it complicated before? |
| 18:38.19 | ckknight | Fin: tone of voice |
| 18:38.20 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:38.22 | jme | do kek and bur both translate to lol? |
| 18:38.31 | Cryect | Picture of the new Summary Report http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1725/summarywindowjw9.jpg |
| 18:38.41 | ckknight | jme: kek is horde saying lol, bur is allies saying lol |
| 18:38.44 | Fin | ckknight: unintentional, I promise |
| 18:38.47 | Thorgard | Nice, Cryect. |
| 18:38.49 | jme | ckknight: err, right, i'm an idiot |
| 18:38.50 | Fin | damn the intuhnet |
| 18:38.59 | Cryect | Still work to be done though |
| 18:39.03 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: That's damned hot. |
| 18:39.10 | trh | Cryect: is it normal for recount to use like 20mb of memory after just 8 arena games? =) |
| 18:39.24 | Azurewrath | Antiarc|Work: mhm.. is there a known Bug in Threat, resulting in (very) wrong data at leotheras? Don't know if some deDE Clients don't get the phase change or something.. |
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| 18:39.37 | jme | ckknight: actually what i meant was does horde saying either kek or bur come across as lol to alliance |
| 18:39.40 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: I think that the deDE translation is incomplete or something. |
| 18:39.45 | ckknight | no |
| 18:39.48 | ckknight | it doesn't |
| 18:39.48 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: If you can translate it for me, I'll fix it real fast. |
| 18:39.54 | Fin | Cryect: that screenshot gives me the horn |
| 18:40.14 | jme | ah |
| 18:40.16 | Antiarc|Work | I need translations for: "Be gone, trifling elf. I am in control now!" |
| 18:40.17 | ckknight | Pheredhel: I fixed the dispel issue |
| 18:40.20 | Antiarc|Work | "No... no! What have you done? I am the master! Do you hear me? I am... aaggh! Can't... contain him." |
| 18:40.25 | Cryect | trh: Hmmm that seems kinda high? 5v5's? I was getting like 15-20mb after like 2 AV's with a bunch of AB's inbetween with like 140 combatants |
| 18:40.38 | trh | Cryect: yep, 5v5 |
| 18:40.55 | trh | Cryect: 8 games, took 22mb after these |
| 18:40.57 | Cryect | guess if they last a decent duration and the damage is spikey it could happen |
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| 18:41.13 | trh | Cryect: they weren't too long... :/ |
| 18:41.14 | Azurewrath | mhm.. gimme a sec, i'll ask a guildie with a deDE Client to log.. we'll pull again soon |
| 18:41.14 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, I have a question -- |
| 18:41.26 | Antiarc|Work | Is there any kind of "translation request" respository set up? |
| 18:41.38 | trh | Cryect: after garbage collection it took 17nb |
| 18:41.39 | Antiarc|Work | It would be AWESOME if someone could submit a translation request with a source and dest locale |
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| 18:41.44 | trh | Cryect: mb |
| 18:41.46 | Antiarc|Work | And then other people could check it and submit translations |
| 18:41.52 | Antiarc|Work | Err, not repository |
| 18:41.53 | Antiarc|Work | But tool |
| 18:42.00 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: *shrug* |
| 18:42.49 | Cryect | trh: you weren't looking at the graph window a lot were you? |
| 18:42.57 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: Thanks. Just lemme know and I'll update and check in the file. |
| 18:43.02 | phyber | ckknight: same issue with health/power, but on a different line now. |
| 18:43.08 | trh | Cryect: not a single time |
| 18:43.09 | phyber | ckknight: [2007/06/28 19:41:19-2280-x1]: CowTip-r42091\HealthBar\HealthBar.lua:46: attempt to index upvalue 'healthBar' (a nil value) |
| 18:43.12 | phyber | Dewdrop-2.0-42066 (FuBar):665: in function <...erface\AddOns\FuBar\libs\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:604> |
| 18:43.17 | Cryect | trh: The graph window needs more optimization on memory usage (every refresh/load of it results in decent memory increase) |
| 18:43.33 | Cryect | trh: well will see what i can do |
| 18:43.41 | Fin | Kemayo: where did you find out about GameTooltip:IsUnit() ? I've extracted my FrameXML with the Blizzard UI Designer thingy, and checked GameTooltip.lua and .xml, there's not much there - I'm obviously looking in the wrong place, could you point me in the right direction, please? |
| 18:43.42 | trh | Cryect: although.. in the fights we had like 4 different pets... lots of mages and hunters =) |
| 18:43.52 | Chompers | how wonderful, someone spamming in trade channel that my guild sucks |
| 18:44.00 | Chompers | hope they enjoy their ban |
| 18:44.12 | trh | Chompers: i'm spamming too.. every 5 minutes "buying blessings 8" ;) |
| 18:44.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42098 10CowTip/ (HealthBar/HealthBar.lua PowerBar/PowerBar.lua): CowTip - another bugfix |
| 18:44.25 | Chompers | maybe an rp server would've been a better choice |
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| 18:44.40 | Kemayo | Fin: 2.0.3 patch notes. http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.3_(Release_Notes) |
| 18:44.50 | Fin | ah, OK, thanks |
| 18:46.32 | Kemayo | ckknight: What's the bare minimum one needs to do to a module with the fubarplugin-2.0 mixin to make if offer position choices? |
| 18:46.36 | Fin | so I probably do want to still use :GetUnit() and :IsPlayer() |
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| 18:46.45 | Ominous | hmm which is the bets way to do version 1.0.RRRRR or 1.0 rRRRRR |
| 18:46.51 | ckknight | Kemayo: nothing |
| 18:47.09 | ckknight | Ominous: ah, your choice |
| 18:47.17 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: I like 1.0 rXXXX myself |
| 18:47.21 | phyber | ckknight: cool, no errors yet. but at the same time, no power/health bars ;) |
| 18:47.26 | Fin | use order in your AceOptions table? |
| 18:47.40 | ckknight | phyber: cause the modules are disabled. |
| 18:48.17 | phyber | you're saying I've got them disabled or you haven't made them work yet? |
| 18:48.21 | phyber | because I have them enabled. |
| 18:48.25 | Antiarc|Work | So, ckknight, what do you think of reporting Threat's fake KTM version as (revision / 100)? |
| 18:48.27 | Antiarc|Work | "Halp, my guildmate is running KTM version 493.12 and I'm stuck with this ancient KTM 20.1. Is KTM even being updated anymore? Where can I download Omen?" |
| 18:48.50 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: why / 100? |
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| 18:49.17 | Antiarc|Work | So that it gets two decimal places, which is how KTM's versioning is usually done. |
| 18:49.31 | Fin | just stick a "0." in front of it |
| 18:49.37 | Fin | or "beta" / "alpha" |
| 18:49.38 | nevcairiel | do / 1000 and round to two decimals |
| 18:50.03 | Antiarc|Work | Or I could just report a random number between 100 and 10000000 for every session |
| 18:50.05 | Antiarc|Work | That might be fun. |
| 18:50.08 | Saroz | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/69962 |
| 18:50.26 | Gngsk | Random off-topic question. Anyone here a rogue who has killed kael'thas? |
| 18:50.47 | hypetech | I have, solo...and naked....with rez sickness...pwnd |
| 18:50.54 | Gngsk | sweet |
| 18:50.55 | hypetech | nerf rogues |
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| 18:51.08 | Gngsk | wondering if rogues put poison on the legendary weapons that the encounter involves |
| 18:51.08 | Daemona | no ? |
| 18:51.15 | Daemona | yes they do |
| 18:51.25 | Peoii | why wouldn't you? |
| 18:51.38 | Gngsk | just wondering, it takes so long to apply poisons! |
| 18:51.44 | Daemona | 3 seconds !? |
| 18:51.46 | hypetech | ? |
| 18:51.46 | jme | i saw a shot where someone enchanted Sunfury to one of the weapons before the fight |
| 18:51.46 | Antiarc|Work | Only 3 sec |
| 18:51.47 | hypetech | lol |
| 18:51.48 | Peoii | (unless you've got a shaman in your group, and are leeching windfury) |
| 18:51.49 | Daemona | and nothing going on realy |
| 18:51.52 | ckknight | Saroz: that doesn't seem right... |
| 18:51.55 | Gngsk | 6 for both weapons |
| 18:52.00 | Saroz | ckknight? it fixed everything though |
| 18:52.02 | Daemona | erhm... you put poison on offhand only |
| 18:52.06 | Daemona | because you HAVE windfury |
| 18:52.07 | Gngsk | but I guess having poisons would make up for that time over the course of the fight |
| 18:52.08 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 18:52.08 | Antiarc|Work | Windfury for the win. |
| 18:52.13 | Daemona | if not... you wont kill kael ;) |
| 18:52.14 | Gngsk | Daemona, negative :\ |
| 18:52.20 | Saroz | ckknight, but imo, the current code doesnt seem right |
| 18:52.23 | Peoii | true dat. ;) |
| 18:52.31 | Antiarc|Work | Guilds still put rogues in non-Windfury groups? *boggle* |
| 18:52.31 | Saroz | ckknight, it has no OnDisable |
| 18:52.35 | ckknight | right |
| 18:52.40 | Gngsk | we only have 1 shaman, elemental and in a caster group |
| 18:52.48 | Daemona | jme SURELY not, cause you get the weapons 10 minutes into the kael fight |
| 18:52.48 | hypetech | we make sure our rogues always have windfury |
| 18:52.50 | Antiarc|Work | Ouch. |
| 18:52.50 | Saroz | ckknight: I blame vhaarr |
| 18:52.52 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 18:52.53 | Peoii | Antiarc|Work: If you're having an off night, and have 4 rogues... yea, make one sit out ;) |
| 18:52.56 | Antiarc|Work | Recruit an enhance shaman |
| 18:52.58 | ckknight | your code makes much more sense |
| 18:52.58 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously |
| 18:53.01 | jme | Daemona: true story! |
| 18:53.03 | Antiarc|Work | It'll put your melee DPS through the roof |
| 18:53.07 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42099 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (16 files): Prat: updated zhCN translation |
| 18:53.08 | ckknight | was reading it backwards |
| 18:53.10 | Saroz | ckknight :p |
| 18:53.15 | Daemona | jme ... you cant enchant it BEFORE the fight. |
| 18:53.20 | Daemona | you dont have the weapons before |
| 18:53.20 | Peoii | Enh Shaman + Feral droood + 3 rogues == win |
| 18:53.28 | jme | Daemona: sorry, i didn't know thatj |
| 18:53.29 | Daemona | Peoii you lack battle-shout |
| 18:53.29 | jme | -j |
| 18:53.33 | Antiarc|Work | Enh shaman + fury warrior + 3 rogues plz |
| 18:53.37 | Antiarc|Work | Battle Shout > +5% crit |
| 18:53.48 | jme | Daemona: i haven't been past halfway through kara yet ;) |
| 18:53.52 | Gngsk | we had a feral druid and a warrior |
| 18:54.05 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: +5% crit to 3 rogues doesn't make up for a 4th rogue :p |
| 18:54.17 | Daemona | well there is a nice german proverb i will translate roughly... "if you dont know shit, shut the fuck up" ;) |
| 18:54.19 | Peoii | eh, depends on your rogues I guess. We've got 2 mute rogues, so 5% crit > for them |
| 18:54.38 | phyber | ckknight: http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_062807_195325.jpg Health Bar enabled, no health bar :) |
| 18:55.13 | Antiarc|Work | Mutilate seems like it'd be hurt pretty badly by Windfury, since it's so poison dependent and gains so much from poison talents. |
| 18:55.32 | Peoii | eh, your offhand poison works just fine though |
| 18:55.35 | ckknight | phyber: /print CowTip:IsModuleActive("HealthBar") |
| 18:55.39 | Peoii | and if it's not up, you can shiv it up |
| 18:55.44 | syeren | Weeeeeeeeeeeee. |
| 18:55.49 | Saroz | ckknight, can I commit? |
| 18:55.54 | phyber | ckknight: 'true' |
| 18:55.55 | ckknight | Saroz: yea |
| 18:55.56 | Antiarc|Work | But you still lose half the benefit from your poison talents. |
| 18:56.07 | phyber | PowerBar is also true. |
| 18:56.18 | ckknight | phyber: *shrug* I dunno, then, cause your previous error could've only happened if it were disabled |
| 18:56.20 | cryogen | vhaarr: you fixed the trinket thing? <3 |
| 18:56.22 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work naah its not THAT bad |
| 18:56.25 | ckknight | phyber: disable/reenable? |
| 18:56.26 | Peoii | true enough, eh, I dunno, this is why I play a mage... group makeup is FAR more simple ;) |
| 18:56.38 | phyber | ckknight: tried. I'll try deleting the saved vars in a while. |
| 18:56.43 | Daemona | and a mutilate rogue is theonly spec that really gains more from agi totem then from windfury |
| 18:56.47 | Peoii | 3 mages + elemental shaman + shadow priest = win. "oh that was hard" |
| 18:56.47 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 18:56.49 | Ominous | Kaelten: would it be possible to make putting 1.0 |cffff8888r$rev$|r as the version field in toc and then showing properly in the wiki box? |
| 18:56.50 | Fin | aha |
| 18:57.01 | Antiarc|Work | But you can put mut rogues with the hunters for GoA |
| 18:57.07 | Daemona | but if you are serious about raiding you dont bring mutilate rogues ;) |
| 18:57.13 | Fin | GameTooltip:SetOwner(UIParent, 'ANCHOR_PRESERVE') -- this is what was breaking tooltips, stopping them from showing up :) |
| 18:57.15 | Antiarc|Work | But give my combat self sexy sexy Wiindfury. |
| 18:57.15 | Kaelten | Ominous: possible? think so |
| 18:57.39 | Ominous | Kaleten: it dosent work atm though does it? |
| 18:57.43 | Peoii | Daemona: Meh, we're not exactly "behind", and we've got 2 ;) They're quite decent actually... |
| 18:58.21 | Antiarc|Work | Mutilate's the perfect spec for PVP while maintaining PVE viability, but it just really can't keep pace with Combat |
| 18:58.36 | Antiarc|Work | Also, poison immune mobs like Curator make me insane when I'm mut. |
| 18:58.43 | Peoii | lol |
| 18:58.45 | jme | i can't decide between rolling a shadow priest or a rogue |
| 18:58.48 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r42100 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: |
| 18:58.48 | CIA-22 | PitBull |
| 18:58.48 | CIA-22 | - Fix Banzai module not correctly disabling itself |
| 18:58.50 | Antiarc|Work | Shadow Priest |
| 18:58.51 | jme | my main is a hunter |
| 18:58.53 | Peoii | jme: Shadow PRiest |
| 18:58.55 | Antiarc|Work | And I say that playing a rogue. |
| 18:59.04 | jme | ok then :) |
| 18:59.14 | Peoii | There is not a single more impressive multitasker in any raid... |
| 18:59.25 | Antiarc|Work | My main's a rogue and I'd advise shadow priest. You're more desirable in PVE and PVP, will find groups more easily, and are arguably OP :P |
| 18:59.26 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: in the spirit of the 'fuzzy clock', you ought to make a dogtag for "FuzzyHP"...Alive, Minor Pain, Injured, Hurt Pretty Bad, Nearly Dead, Not Dead Yet, Dead |
| 18:59.41 | jme | Antiarc|Work: well said. |
| 18:59.42 | Fin | ckknight: I'm planning to make a CowTip module after I actually get what I'm trying to do working, regardless, but: will CowTip show the new lines I'm trying to add? |
| 18:59.43 | Peoii | You're a mana tide totem, healing stream totem, and dps bastard all at the same time. |
| 18:59.58 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: I had guildmates suggest that someone convert the DOOM Marine's health display to a health bar |
| 19:00.00 | jme | Antiarc|Work: i'm finding the opposite to be true for my hunter as far as pve and groups go |
| 19:00.01 | Peoii | Cept you do all of those better... :/ |
| 19:00.06 | Gnarfoz | hyperChipmunk: is that biased towards more detail on the lower hp end? |
| 19:00.06 | Chompers | play an arms warrior, EVERYONE wants you in their group :P |
| 19:00.10 | ckknight | Fin: yea, of course |
| 19:00.14 | jme | pvp, well, i'm tired of pugging bg's |
| 19:00.17 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Rogues are less desirable than hunters in PVE, barring high-end raiding. |
| 19:00.20 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: lol... |
| 19:00.23 | hypetech | I will say that arms warrior + windfury = holy dps |
| 19:00.27 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r42101 10ClassTimer/ (. ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc embeds.xml): ClassTimer, minor fix |
| 19:00.28 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: nah |
| 19:00.32 | Fin | ckknight: wicked |
| 19:00.37 | nadas | heh, my guild prefers rogues over hunters |
| 19:00.39 | Peoii | Chompers: lol, you'd love our guild... ;) We actually don't have a fury warrior, but do have an 2 arms warriors we bring in from time to time ;) |
| 19:00.40 | mikma | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3637/himosnf5.jpg |
| 19:00.45 | Chompers | aye hypetech |
| 19:00.49 | nadas | but then we never had many good hunters |
| 19:00.58 | Antiarc|Work | nadas: For raids, perhaps |
| 19:01.04 | Daemona | welll ... dont forget to mention that if you COULD tank you would be the best tank at 1.6k+ threat |
| 19:01.05 | Daemona | ;) |
| 19:01.07 | Josh_Borke | you make me sad mikma |
| 19:01.08 | Antiarc|Work | For 5-man instancing, rogues are generally everyone's last choice. |
| 19:01.11 | hypetech | mikma: diaf |
| 19:01.11 | hyperChipmunk | Gnarfoz: yea, because (1) it's more useful there, and (2) it's funnier coming up with low-end phrases |
| 19:01.14 | Ominous | kaelten: its shown as 1.0 r$rev$ in the info box |
| 19:01.16 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42102 10VanasKoS/modules/Notifier.lua: VanasKoS: changed the way tooltip text is added |
| 19:01.18 | nadas | Antiarc|Work: not in my guild ;) |
| 19:01.21 | Peoii | Actually, we asked our only fury warrior to respec arms for MS/%debuff, while keeping imp battleshout. |
| 19:01.23 | nadas | we're rogue lovers |
| 19:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | although "Just a Flesh Wound" could go up to fill out the top end |
| 19:01.28 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 19:01.33 | Kaelten | oh, ah, ya that I'm not sure about,. |
| 19:01.37 | Kaelten | I'll have to talk to mikk |
| 19:01.42 | nadas | but then we only have 3 rogues and they're all fanatic |
| 19:01.45 | what-K | vhaarr can u help me ? |
| 19:01.46 | mikma | Josh_Borke: tell me something new :D |
| 19:02.11 | Chompers | i just spent 50g on respeccing 2 points into 'blood frenzy' |
| 19:02.11 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: what was that...scratched, bloody, bloody and disfigured, dead? |
| 19:02.19 | Chompers | hope the melee dps like it |
| 19:02.23 | Antiarc|Work | Something like that, yeah |
| 19:02.35 | Antiarc|Work | Blood Frenzy is an insane boost to 25-man DPS |
| 19:02.41 | Chompers | awesome |
| 19:02.52 | Chompers | we're just starting those :D |
| 19:03.03 | Chompers | never took in in kara as nothing bleeds |
| 19:03.08 | Antiarc|Work | You'll need every last bit of DPS you can get for your first few Gruul kills |
| 19:03.12 | Ominous | kaelten: bah ignore me it wouldnt work anyway as the tag adds on Rev: RRRRR not just RRRRR |
| 19:03.13 | jme | when you're levelling a shadow priest do you want to put all your initial points in shadow? |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42103 10ItemValue/ (Class_StatSet.lua ItemValue.lua ItemValue.toc): |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | - Added /itemvalue slashcommand |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | - Added very basic FuBar plugin |
| 19:03.19 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Oh yes |
| 19:03.27 | Antiarc|Work | Mind Flay should be your first target |
| 19:03.30 | Antiarc|Work | Spirit Tap first |
| 19:03.31 | jme | ok |
| 19:03.36 | Kemayo | ckknight: Weird -- I'll have to wait until I get home to work out why someone is complaining that the plugin isn't offering that option, then. :) |
| 19:03.48 | trh | Gnarfoz: try it ;) |
| 19:03.49 | Kaelten | Ominous I know, still might be possible to subsittute |
| 19:03.56 | ckknight | option? |
| 19:04.24 | ckknight | Ominous: you're doing it wrong ;-) |
| 19:04.29 | Gnarfoz | trh: will do |
| 19:04.30 | Antiarc|Work | Spirit Tap -> Imp SWP -> Shadow Affinity if you're gonna group, 3/5 Blackout otherwise -> Mind Flay |
| 19:04.36 | Ominous | ckknight: huh |
| 19:04.43 | ckknight | Ominous: local rev = ("$Revision: 1$"):match("%d+") |
| 19:04.52 | ckknight | local version = "1.0 r" .. rev |
| 19:04.57 | Kemayo | ckknight: The FuBarPlugin position-chosing one. |
| 19:04.59 | Ominous | yea i have done that in the addon, was just trying to do it in toc |
| 19:05.01 | jme | Antiarc|Work: eh, i don't plan on grouping much, i'm used to solo levelling |
| 19:05.13 | ckknight | Kemayo: oh, odd, is it possible you're overwriting .position? |
| 19:05.13 | omega_ | Mikk: ?? did I ping you? |
| 19:05.18 | Antiarc|Work | Priesting sucks until you get Mind Flay |
| 19:05.22 | Antiarc|Work | So don't get discouraged |
| 19:05.30 | Antiarc|Work | But it only gets better from there. |
| 19:05.37 | NeoTron | don't underestimate the power of the wand |
| 19:05.50 | Peoii | it's all about wand spec! |
| 19:05.55 | jme | heh |
| 19:06.01 | NeoTron | wand spec isn't bad actually |
| 19:06.06 | Peoii | no, no it's not... |
| 19:06.50 | Peoii | huh, funny, running thru the armory, our 2 mute rogues have the same spec... 41/20/0 |
| 19:06.56 | Peoii | bastards. |
| 19:07.08 | Ominous | Peoii: thats a great spec |
| 19:07.13 | jme | that's my hunter's spec |
| 19:07.18 | Antiarc|Work | 41/20 is a fantastic spec |
| 19:07.22 | Peoii | aye |
| 19:07.36 | Gnarfoz | that could be cold blood + imp. sprint with points wasted all over the place, for all that numbers say |
| 19:07.43 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 19:07.44 | Antiarc|Work | Well |
| 19:07.46 | Peoii | it seems to work well for em, they're pushing the top end of our melee charts |
| 19:07.47 | Antiarc|Work | The traditional 41/20 spec. |
| 19:08.09 | Peoii | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=Flaor |
| 19:08.11 | Peoii | That spec. |
| 19:08.15 | Fin | I had a shadow priest, recently respecced to holy - I love healing, but my god is anything solo a pain in the arse |
| 19:08.20 | Gnarfoz | Peoii: that's all that really counts anyway, right? :> |
| 19:09.10 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: exactly... Hell, I'm not complaining, there hasn't been a week since the guild formed we havn't gotten atleast 1 new kill. Vashj dead only 21 days after starting SSC, yea, good stuff. |
| 19:09.23 | Gnarfoz | neat. |
| 19:09.38 | Gnarfoz | I wish I was on a server where something like that was possible :D |
| 19:09.40 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r42104 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc): ClassTimer: a few touchups, added FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 19:09.49 | Gngsk | Gnarfoz, do what I did and transfer |
| 19:10.04 | Gnarfoz | Gngsk: how to find out where? -.- |
| 19:10.13 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: What class do ya play? |
| 19:10.14 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0627mr-chikfila0628.html <-- is it bad that my first thought was "Dammit, I missed it!" ? |
| 19:10.15 | Gnarfoz | rogue |
| 19:10.16 | Gngsk | guild recruitment forums |
| 19:10.47 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: Then avoid Cenarius... we've got an excess of rogues :P I know 3 who transfered off our server just to get raiding spots in guilds :/ |
| 19:11.15 | jme | Antiarc|Work: i'm guessing skip vamp embrace for soloing? |
| 19:11.16 | Gnarfoz | I just joined one of the 'was a name pre-TBC' guilds after they cleaned out their old/quit-after-bc members and chose to start raiding 25ers + a second kara group, so I'll at least stay here for a little while and gather some karazhan equipment |
| 19:11.25 | Antiarc|Work | jme: No, I'd take it. |
| 19:11.30 | Gnarfoz | Peoii: US/EU? |
| 19:11.37 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: US |
| 19:11.46 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 19:12.17 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: My EU character is on Ragnaros, but I havn't played em in a while... usually played by my aunt/uncle. |
| 19:13.10 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: dunno if you know, seeing you're already in one of the best pve guilds in EU, but... got any idea which (german? not necessarily, would be nice for the latency) EU server has some good pve guilds? |
| 19:13.37 | Chompers | why did i click that link, damn you mikma |
| 19:13.40 | Chompers | WHY |
| 19:13.40 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42105 10VanasKoS/modules/DataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS: what the hell was i thinking when i wrote that line... bugfix |
| 19:14.06 | Antiarc|Work | jme: I'm not really a priest expert, but http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMRzhZbZxGMt0tohtEo seems like it'd be pretty decent. |
| 19:14.59 | mikma | Chompers: because you are bicurious |
| 19:15.02 | jme | Antiarc|Work: just reading over them i'd think that shadow focus would be better than shadow affinity for soloing |
| 19:15.07 | Chompers | do you talk about rogue-craft alot Antiarc? |
| 19:15.10 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Yes, likely. |
| 19:15.15 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Yeah :) |
| 19:15.24 | Chompers | we've got a rogue in the guild who talks about talents/stats ALL THE TIME |
| 19:15.25 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Blackout's also really nice for soloing. |
| 19:15.44 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: I've found that people that play rogues tend to gravitate towards theorycrafting. Dunno why. |
| 19:15.45 | jme | Antiarc|Work: yep |
| 19:15.55 | Chompers | same here |
| 19:16.04 | Chompers | nice to see it isn't just me who thinks that |
| 19:16.05 | Gnarfoz | because optimizing their rogues is probably a priority |
| 19:16.08 | Gnarfoz | it is, for me :> |
| 19:16.15 | loonacy | Question about Pitbull modules: How do I make my module's OnPopulateUnitFrame get called after another module's? I'm attaching to frame.portrait, and I need to wait until that is created. |
| 19:16.30 | Daemona | as a rogue its all about dps... |
| 19:16.43 | Daemona | i resocketed gear with gems for like 200g |
| 19:16.45 | Gnarfoz | in PvE, I am dps. hence I try to maximize that as far as I can |
| 19:16.46 | Daemona | to get +5dps |
| 19:16.48 | Chompers | same for a dps warrior, but there isnt much to talk about |
| 19:16.48 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect it's because the rogue is the most "pure" class out there - damage and nothing but damage - so the only place for a rogue to really grow once they have the basics is by improving their damage output, which means heavy theorycraft. |
| 19:16.58 | Chompers | maybe i'm just a crappy warrior |
| 19:17.07 | Gnarfoz | nice summary, Antiarc|Work ^^ |
| 19:17.22 | Kemayo | ckknight: I'm not overwriting .position... but there are a lot of other things cluttering up the module object that don't need to be there now I'm not debugging. I'll rip those out and ask the guy whether that fixes it. |
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| 19:17.33 | Chompers | my theorycrafting "BIGGER SWORD" |
| 19:17.42 | hyperChipmunk | I suspect it's because rogues are the most "pure" e-peen measurers. They need to theorycraft to get bigger e-peens. |
| 19:18.00 | trh | "a dead rogues dps is 0" :) |
| 19:18.01 | Gnarfoz | Chompers: good first step, for sure :> |
| 19:18.08 | Chompers | haha :P |
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| 19:18.28 | Daemona | referring to the focus target in a macro is |
| 19:18.31 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: When it's all you have to do... :P |
| 19:18.39 | Daemona | ./cast [target=focus] spellname? |
| 19:18.47 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 19:19.05 | hyperChipmunk | "huh huh I stabbed you for 3k after that mob beat you to within 500 hp of death. huh huh. I'm so awesome." |
| 19:19.10 | Daemona | teaching casters how to interupt spells without switching targets ;) |
| 19:19.16 | Chompers | 2 more vortexs and it's upgrade time, then i guess i'll hit stuff with it...or something |
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| 19:19.38 | Chompers | this theorycraft stuff is hard work |
| 19:20.05 | trh | Daemona: that's complicated =) |
| 19:20.13 | Kemayo | There are few things more annoying than pickup groups containing multiple dps classes all spamming damage meters at each other. Darn e-peens. |
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| 19:20.17 | Fin | Daemona: you know what I've always wanted? |
| 19:20.24 | Fin | Daemona: a "stop" button on my castbar |
| 19:20.28 | trh | Daemona: most complicated is the part getting them to use unitframes that show focus target |
| 19:20.33 | Peoii | Kemayo: Agreed... |
| 19:20.48 | Fin | that would cancel the currently casting spell without me having to jump or move or type anything |
| 19:21.02 | Peoii | Fin: /stopcasting |
| 19:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | Fin: so makeone? |
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| 19:21.18 | Antiarc|Work | I hate people spamming damage meters, too |
| 19:21.22 | Antiarc|Work | That's what synchs are for. :P |
| 19:21.32 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: think I might just do that... now I realised I can |
| 19:21.32 | Chompers | espically when there are 3 damage meters being used |
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| 19:21.39 | Chompers | and all are different |
| 19:21.56 | Fin | Peoii: slash commands aren't things you can click on your cast bar :P |
| 19:22.32 | hyperChipmunk | macro |
| 19:22.32 | Peoii | So macro it, and put it on your bar... |
| 19:22.32 | hyperChipmunk | one line |
| 19:22.32 | Peoii | And anyway, who clicks? ;) |
| 19:22.32 | Gnarfoz | I don't use the report feature of my "combat analyzers" (damage meters is such a rough term :P) unless asked |
| 19:22.32 | hyperChipmunk | ya srsly |
| 19:22.38 | Fin | I click + keyboard together |
| 19:23.05 | Fin | honestly anyone who thinks you should do one or the other isn't taking full advantage of the interface :) |
| 19:23.15 | Gnarfoz | I am the one who wants to see that data in the first place, don't care if that mage in the group has his own damage meter, combat log range set to 10y and shows me as having done 1% of his dmg :P |
| 19:23.29 | durcyn | yes, but keyboard turners still need to die. |
| 19:23.47 | Gnarfoz | want me to dig up that DL comic about that, durcyn? xD |
| 19:23.47 | Chompers | i paste the meters after big fights |
| 19:23.52 | Fin | and, I ended up with a macro + button on my bar anyway - but I'd rather have it display on the actual cast bar, the only time it's needed is when it's displayed |
| 19:23.53 | jme | durcyn: haha, i pugged with an arms warrior "tank" that turned with his keyboard |
| 19:23.57 | hyperChipmunk | mouse casters aren't too far behind keyboard turners |
| 19:23.58 | Fin | durcyn: keyboard... turners? |
| 19:23.59 | jme | durcyn: worst experience ever |
| 19:24.13 | Fin | wth are they? |
| 19:24.20 | FtH|Daemona | pff i am a rogue and i run out of keys... |
| 19:24.24 | Chompers | jme most dps warriors are idiots |
| 19:24.24 | durcyn | Fin: keyboard turners. those who use Q and E exclusively to turn. |
| 19:24.29 | FtH|Daemona | i am a clicker for certain things ;) |
| 19:24.32 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Ever try a Nostromo playing a caster? ;) |
| 19:24.34 | jme | Chompers: this guy was no exception |
| 19:24.35 | Fin | oh! my word! |
| 19:24.39 | Antiarc|Work | I've got most everything count that I need bound |
| 19:24.43 | Fin | oh dear, yes I totally agree |
| 19:24.43 | Daemona | Peoii i use one |
| 19:24.43 | jme | Chompers: imagine 7 hours in SL and never killing murmer. |
| 19:24.44 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/87.html |
| 19:24.47 | durcyn | Fin: they're right up there with people who don't know that action buttons have keybindings. |
| 19:24.49 | jme | Chompers: non heroic SL. |
| 19:24.53 | Chompers | jesus christ jme |
| 19:24.54 | Kirkburn | Er, who broke the http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page skin? |
| 19:24.55 | Chompers | :O |
| 19:24.59 | Chompers | NON-heroic? |
| 19:25.07 | hypetech | everytime I go in SL I end up being there for 5+ hours for silly shit |
| 19:25.08 | durcyn | Kirkburn: I blame you, sir. |
| 19:25.12 | jme | Chompers: i was in it for the key, so i stayed until i got the frag and bailed after they wiped 3 times on murmer. |
| 19:25.20 | Antiarc|Work | 1-6, Q, E, R, ~, Shift, Crtl gives me 30 one-hand keybindings |
| 19:25.20 | Gnarfoz | hypetech: damn, 5 hours oO |
| 19:25.25 | Peoii | Daemona: I found the most entertaining thing ever yesterday.... I setup the wheel to repeat the keypress every 3 seconds, and set that event up to cast fireball... I can now auto-afk/pewpewpew just like a hunter. |
| 19:25.29 | Fin | Kirkburn: the skin I'm using is working... |
| 19:25.34 | Chompers | it only took 4 hours for a heroic SH |
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| 19:25.37 | Kirkburn | In IE7? |
| 19:25.38 | jme | Chompers: like i said, worst experience pugging ever. i try to avoid pugs like the plague now because of that. |
| 19:25.39 | Fin | must've changed it from the default or something |
| 19:25.44 | Chompers | i feel your pain jme |
| 19:26.01 | Fin | IE7? are you mad, man?! |
| 19:26.08 | jme | Chompers: i finally got in a good guild a while back, their typical non heroic SL run lasts 45-60 minutes |
| 19:26.11 | erodar | lo all |
| 19:26.21 | Kirkburn | I'm finding that the content box isn't pushed down at all, it starts at the page top (thus covering the user links) |
| 19:26.38 | Chompers | not bad |
| 19:26.38 | hypetech | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.41 | hyperChipmunk | looks fine here |
| 19:26.52 | Peoii | hypetech: Yup |
| 19:26.56 | Daemona | Peoii i use a press key spamm sinister strike, press key stop sinister strike button ;) |
| 19:27.06 | hypetech | Peoii: sweet |
| 19:27.17 | Peoii | Daemona: lol, silly rogues, such a "tuff" life ;) |
| 19:27.17 | Daemona | hypetech no, you get a route from skettis to blades edge though |
| 19:27.28 | NeoTron | mage dpsing using arcane blast/arcane missiles solely. that's unusual |
| 19:27.41 | erodar | anybody got a few mins to give me a couple of addon pointers? |
| 19:27.45 | Gnarfoz | perhaps, I should finally unpack my nostromo I got for christmas last year :< |
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| 19:27.57 | Kirkburn | Kaelten, I choose you! |
| 19:28.06 | Gnarfoz | not gotten around to take the time to try and use it :D |
| 19:28.21 | Peoii | Gnarfoz: I love it... No keyboard can come close to having so much available at your fingertips. |
| 19:28.37 | Kaelten | Kirkburn: sorry I've had my shots to protect against that |
| 19:28.47 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 19:28.51 | Daemona | just take the time to get used to it |
| 19:28.53 | Kirkburn | Meeeeeanwhile, I'm getting wiki problems in IE7 - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page |
| 19:28.57 | Daemona | dont give up after 2 days |
| 19:29.04 | Gnarfoz | I'm quite content with my Das Keyboard II (http://daskeyboard.com/ ^^), but well, I have the nostromo, too, so I should test it some day :D |
| 19:29.04 | Daemona | took me a mere week to get used to my n52 |
| 19:29.18 | Kirkburn | The "Main Page" title and surrounding box isn't starting about 20 px down the page, below the tabs |
| 19:29.33 | Kirkburn | No, for me, it's starting at the top :) (fine in FF) |
| 19:29.33 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r42106 10LittleWigs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: Whoops, forgot .toc changes for last commit |
| 19:30.42 | Kirkburn | Means the box covers the user links and obscures the page title (hidden behind the tabs). No idea why. |
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| 19:31.35 | Gnarfoz | so, back to maintaining my list of "what instances X, Y and Z to LFG for next, to get gear piece A, B & C"... could probably make that a project to teach myself some web-programming language, but I am indeed, lazy and do it in notepad :D |
| 19:32.27 | Kirkburn | Kaelten, also, what's with the blatant favouritism of the Make it Ace'd page :( Mine was totally first! /me pouts |
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| 19:33.31 | hyperChipmunk | you suck |
| 19:33.46 | NightHawkAtWork | ... |
| 19:34.12 | Kirkburn | Don't worry NightHawkAtWork, I'm sure hyperChipmunk meant me |
| 19:34.36 | NightHawkAtWork | Kirkburn: probably, but i'm sure he'd be glad to let it spillover to me too :P |
| 19:34.36 | trh | Gnarfoz: eeks, use at least notepad++ =) |
| 19:35.10 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r42107 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: |
| 19:35.10 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 19:35.10 | CIA-22 | - Magtheridon: Correct typo. untill -> until |
| 19:35.24 | jme | phyber: fail |
| 19:35.52 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42108 10Babble-2.2/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 19:35.52 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 19:35.52 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Boss-2.2 Babble-Race-2.2 Babble-Spell-2.2 Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 Babble-Zone-2.2: now zhCN translations can pass AceLocale's strictness check |
| 19:35.52 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Fish-2.2 Babble-Herbs-2.2 Babble-Ore-2.2: |
| 19:35.53 | CIA-22 | add zhCN translations |
| 19:36.11 | phyber | jme: hmm? |
| 19:36.24 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: your code is a huge unwieldy hog |
| 19:36.26 | jme | phyber: kidding :) |
| 19:36.33 | hyperChipmunk | and so is your mom |
| 19:36.50 | jme | so much hate |
| 19:37.02 | Kirkburn | Maybe he likes huge unwieldy hogs? |
| 19:37.06 | jme | need more <3 |
| 19:37.15 | NightHawkAtWork | Kirkburn: hyperChipmunk sure does. |
| 19:39.41 | Gnarfoz | trh: yeah, I could probably use my normal editor (pspad), but even then, that's not really an advantage besides "it's not notepad!" |
| 19:39.52 | hypetech | notepad++ is teh sex |
| 19:40.02 | trh | hypetech: i like it :) |
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| 19:40.33 | jme | textmate owns all... if you use osx |
| 19:40.39 | Fin | huh, I'd forgotten you could call functions like function'arg' |
| 19:41.04 | phyber | pft, just use 'dd' and write straight to the HDD. best editor ever. |
| 19:41.29 | liquiem | nerd |
| 19:41.32 | Fin | I actually just use a carefully handled magnet directly on my hard drive, noob |
| 19:42.03 | Fin | are there any npcs with names that end in "'"? |
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| 19:42.30 | hypetech | fin: ? |
| 19:42.44 | Fin | hypetech: like, Mog'Rosh' or something |
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| 19:43.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin++ ;) |
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| 19:43.28 | Fin | ! |
| 19:45.13 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42109 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Added threat values for Power Word: Shield casts |
| 19:45.46 | Chompers | how's pet threat Antiarc? |
| 19:45.53 | Antiarc|Work | Hunter pets seem fine |
| 19:45.55 | trh | Antiarc: omg.. this TheDeamon user in curse comments is a major idiot =) |
| 19:45.59 | Antiarc|Work | Warlock pets are fubar |
| 19:47.26 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42110 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Missing commas are not awesome. |
| 19:47.40 | jme | sure they are. |
| 19:47.41 | hypetech | lol @ antiarc |
| 19:48.30 | BankZ | Anyone know of there is a slash command to set the Default set for ClosetGnome? I wanta create a macro that sets the default set |
| 19:49.03 | Wixi | you can set keybinds? |
| 19:49.10 | hypetech | is there anyway to call a macro from a slash command? like if I write a macro and name it killstuff, can I do /macro killstuff and have it run it? |
| 19:49.15 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: which code? |
| 19:49.27 | hyperChipmunk | all of it |
| 19:49.29 | BankZ | I can set kids to sets, but not to change the Default set |
| 19:49.38 | BankZ | *keys |
| 19:49.55 | Kaelten | I like to think you're mistaken |
| 19:50.10 | Kaelten | bring me imperical proof that I can scoff at and tell you your a newb |
| 19:50.30 | hyperChipmunk | pft |
| 19:50.42 | BankZ | The default set is the set you switch to when switching out of a stance |
| 19:50.42 | NightHawkAtWork | Kaelten: empirical (though i probably munged that too). unless you want proff from a king, or something :p |
| 19:50.44 | hyperChipmunk | pft and feh |
| 19:50.53 | Kaelten | NightHawkAtWork: yes I do |
| 19:51.25 | Kody- | gonna have to side with hyperchipmunk here |
| 19:51.30 | Kody- | the feh won the argument |
| 19:52.20 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahah, wow. |
| 19:52.34 | Antiarc|Work | I typed "2.1" into my google search box in Firefox and it suggested "2.1 patch notes" |
| 19:52.34 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: :P |
| 19:52.36 | Antiarc|Work | Which is what I wanted. |
| 19:52.46 | Kaelten | nice |
| 19:52.54 | _Saint-N | you running that though probe addon in firefox? |
| 19:52.57 | _Saint-N | thought |
| 19:53.06 | Kody- | google is in your brain stealin' your ideas |
| 19:53.15 | _Saint-N | that does explain a lot |
| 19:53.18 | Antiarc|Work | The google search bar in Firefox calls back to google suggest to get suggested search entries |
| 19:54.24 | jme | google search bar phone home |
| 19:56.47 | trh | Antiarc: lol |
| 19:56.50 | Peoii | oh well that's not good.... |
| 19:56.51 | Peoii | [2007/06/28 12:56:11-199-x1]: cyCircled-0.5\plugins\AutoBar.lua:13: attempt to index field 'display' (a nil value) |
| 19:56.58 | Peoii | blarg. |
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| 19:58.19 | hypetech | are there only 4 daily quests you can do before netherwing? |
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| 19:58.27 | kbh | 6 |
| 19:58.28 | trh | hyperChipmunk: 6 |
| 19:58.33 | trh | hypetech not hyperChipmunk |
| 19:58.43 | hyperChipmunk | stop pinging me, jerk |
| 19:58.55 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: ping |
| 19:58.57 | trh | hyperChipmunk: but i love it ;) *ping* |
| 19:58.59 | Kaydeethree | ping |
| 19:59.03 | jme | hyperChipmunk: ping |
| 19:59.18 | trh | hyperChipmunk: you could always start your nick with a strange number ;) |
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| 19:59.49 | kbh | a strange number? |
| 20:00.01 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: pong |
| 20:00.01 | hyperChipmunk | pft, I been in here for like 2 friggin' years; he can put a strange number in front |
| 20:00.04 | trh | kbh: so no one will auto-complete it by accident ;) |
| 20:00.07 | hypetech | kbh: Bombing run, fire over skettis, wrangling the aether rays, and the simon says game, what else is there? |
| 20:00.08 | Thrae | Fin: Did you need something from me? |
| 20:00.27 | Fin | Thrae: just wanted to pick your brain about tooltips some more :) |
| 20:00.30 | hyperChipmunk | escape from skettis |
| 20:00.35 | kbh | theres a soulcatchin' one once you're honored with ogri'la |
| 20:00.39 | Ominous | kaelten: please can you read my question in wau? |
| 20:00.45 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: I don't think I can do that one yet |
| 20:00.53 | Fin | Thrae: hope you don't mind (I'm still figuring it out, but I solved the thing I was currently wondering about) |
| 20:00.57 | Thrae | Fin: Well, if it's any consolation, today is suppose to be the day I finish TinyTipModuleCore |
| 20:01.01 | hypetech | I'm only friendly with skyguard and ogri'la so far |
| 20:01.01 | hyperChipmunk | that's the easiest one |
| 20:01.03 | Kaelten | Ominous: I forget |
| 20:01.04 | Fin | woo! |
| 20:01.11 | hyperChipmunk | you can do it anytime |
| 20:01.12 | Kaelten | ask karl |
| 20:01.15 | Fin | Thrae: awesome, I'm looking forward to that |
| 20:01.23 | Fin | Om: come keep me company on TS |
| 20:01.33 | Ominous | hmm oki |
| 20:01.33 | trh | hypetech: you can do it always.. additonally a escort quest starting at one of the trees in skettis |
| 20:01.37 | Fin | Om Diddly Om Dom Pommmmm |
| 20:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | what's the dude gonna say? no, don't rescue me |
| 20:01.58 | hyperChipmunk | I like it here in my little cage |
| 20:02.00 | trh | hypetech: then there are 4 ogri'la quests, but 1 is available first at honored or revered (banishing daemons) |
| 20:02.01 | Thrae | Fin: TT Modules are Dongle modules, but it shouldn't be hard to make them interact with Ace |
| 20:02.07 | Ominous | Fin: rofl |
| 20:02.33 | hyperChipmunk | I can't get any of the BEM quests, and I'm nearly exalted with Skywing |
| 20:03.00 | trh | hyperChipmunk: you need to do some prequest for ogri'la quests (if BEM is meant with them :) |
| 20:03.03 | Thrae | Fin: Actually...nevermind, I'll make Dongle transparent to users of the module core, so I can change the underlying framework if I want. So, uh, they won't be "Dongle Modules". |
| 20:03.18 | _Saint-N | there really isnt any point to getting rep with skyguard and orgila is there |
| 20:03.20 | hyperChipmunk | ogri'la AND the skyguard |
| 20:03.24 | _Saint-N | like nothing super awesopmely neat |
| 20:03.29 | hyperChipmunk | neither will give me quests |
| 20:03.49 | Fin | Thrae: I've been looking for an excuse to play with Dongle... |
| 20:03.52 | trh | hyperChipmunk: ya.. there are like 3 or 4 son of gruuls in a questline you gotta kill first with a 5-man group (4man might work too) |
| 20:03.54 | Gnancy | you need to do the 5 man quest in the circle of blood hyperChipmunk |
| 20:03.55 | Fin | ... said the nun to the vicar |
| 20:03.57 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: IIRC you have to do a set of quests from an ogre near the BEM arena before you can do quests for ogri'la |
| 20:04.07 | hyperChipmunk | those guys beat me down =\ |
| 20:04.07 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, what trh said |
| 20:04.10 | Saint-N | *rimshot* |
| 20:04.11 | hyperChipmunk | I can't kite 'em |
| 20:04.14 | hyperChipmunk | they leash |
| 20:04.18 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: get friends? |
| 20:04.38 | Fin | seriously, I have wanted to try it, just not had a reason yet |
| 20:04.39 | Thrae | NightHawkAtWork: WoW is a solo game, n00b! |
| 20:04.45 | Saint-N | oh and that netherdrake quest is such crap |
| 20:04.57 | Saint-N | it requires you to already have a fast flyer |
| 20:04.59 | hyperChipmunk | well, the three of us couldn't beat the one we tried either |
| 20:05.02 | trh | netherwing ledge sucks.. i hate the repeatable quests =) |
| 20:05.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Thrae: ugh, thats what it feels like to me some days. probably why I havn't logged on in like a week or so |
| 20:05.04 | Saint-N | and really at that point who gives a fuck |
| 20:05.26 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, when you get an LotP heal, does the combat log show "Druids Leader of the Pack heals you for 1234" or "Druid's Improved Leader of the Pack heals you for 1234"? |
| 20:05.27 | hypetech | why does StopTheSpam constantly use 5MB resources? :( |
| 20:05.39 | Thrae | Fin: Well if you use TinyTipModuleCore, you really aren't using Dongle, since TinyTipModuleCore will be implementing things Dongle doesn't, as the module core needs to deal with them specially (like Hooking, Slash Commands, Database usage) |
| 20:05.42 | Antiarc|Work | Well, the spam has to go somewhere. |
| 20:05.49 | hyperChipmunk | it says Your improved leader of the pack heals you for 1234. |
| 20:05.54 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, great. |
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| 20:05.58 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: lol |
| 20:06.05 | hypetech | antiarc|work: does it have to store it though? |
| 20:06.11 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: It's a joke :P |
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| 20:06.13 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42111 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Warlock.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: changed :ExemptGain(skill) to a .ExemptGains[skill] hash. Removed threat from Improved Leader of the Pack per the 2.1.0 patch notes. |
| 20:06.14 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42112 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua: |
| 20:06.14 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: Drycode! |
| 20:06.14 | CIA-22 | -Fu: Move a bunch of stuff out of self. and into locals. (This'll break things if I missed something.) |
| 20:06.21 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: :9 |
| 20:06.24 | hypetech | :( * |
| 20:06.33 | Thrae | Fin: Actually, it'd be more like Ace ;) |
| 20:07.15 | Fin | Thrae: full circle! :) heheh |
| 20:07.25 | hypetech | seriously though, it uses the most out of any of my mods, and just so I don't have to see a few messages at startup. I might just get rid of it |
| 20:08.13 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: It's probably being credited for Ace lib usage |
| 20:08.15 | Antiarc|Work | Since it loads first. |
| 20:08.30 | hypetech | ah |
| 20:08.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42113 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: One of these days I'll actually validate that my drycode parses BEFORE I commit it. |
| 20:08.46 | hyperChipmunk | unlikely |
| 20:08.47 | Mikk | lol. stopthespam. 5mb. |
| 20:08.55 | Fin | hah! |
| 20:08.57 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: what editor? |
| 20:08.58 | Mikk | if i'd seen that, i might just have gone "hmm, not likely" |
| 20:09.02 | Antiarc|Work | Notepad++ |
| 20:09.05 | trh | Mikk: that's got to be alot of spam ;) |
| 20:09.07 | Fin | SciTE++ |
| 20:09.11 | hyperChipmunk | ah, n/m |
| 20:09.12 | kbh | crimson editor! |
| 20:09.15 | Saint-N | woah oh tainted roach woah oh taineted roach, don't touch me please i cannot stand the way you sleaze |
| 20:09.17 | hyperChipmunk | you're on your own then =P |
| 20:09.37 | Saint-N | notepad2! |
| 20:10.14 | Saint-N | all the fun of notepad with line counts indenting code recognization all in a 250k exe file! |
| 20:10.22 | Saint-N | AND |
| 20:10.24 | Saint-N | AND! |
| 20:10.39 | Saint-N | itll walk yer dog, get you beer and do the laundry! |
| 20:10.47 | trh | btw: what happened to all those lua/wow IDE's? |
| 20:10.53 | trh | there were several projects iirc |
| 20:11.46 | Kemayo | SciTE+++ |
| 20:12.17 | jme | heh, farming feuds... i watched a lock kill a hunter 4 or 5 times the other night in smv over an air elemental the hunter stole from the lock |
| 20:12.24 | Kemayo | trh: Once you have the API stuff, which SciTE can do, what more do you need? |
| 20:14.22 | Kemayo | Actually, notepad++ should be able to do it as well, since I recall that it's also scintilla based. |
| 20:15.03 | trh | Kemayo: yeah.. it supports highlighting and stuff |
| 20:15.14 | trh | Kemayo: but real validation isn't done yet |
| 20:18.46 | Kemayo | trh: Real validation seems like more work than it's worth, given the inherently tied-to-WoW nature of it all. I have API auto-completion, contextual tooltip API reference, and that's enough that I'm happy. |
| 20:19.08 | trh | Kemayo: sure.. it's ok to work with |
| 20:21.00 | Saint-N | hey kemayo |
| 20:21.08 | Kemayo | Yes, Saint-N? |
| 20:21.11 | Saint-N | how come you removed the detached tooltip directory? |
| 20:21.22 | Kemayo | Saint-N: I didn't... |
| 20:21.25 | Saint-N | really? |
| 20:21.36 | Saint-N | i did an update on a fresh dir and it didnt have it |
| 20:21.42 | Saint-N | had to copy over my old one |
| 20:21.44 | Antiarc|Work | Question: Does Spirit Bond show regen in the combat log? |
| 20:21.59 | Kemayo | Saint-N: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/QuestsFu_Detached/ <-- still there. |
| 20:22.08 | Saint-N | wierd |
| 20:22.32 | Saint-N | using wau |
| 20:22.41 | Kemayo | It's still on the files page. |
| 20:22.47 | Antiarc|Work | I had someone report Threat missing from WAU this morning too |
| 20:22.57 | Saint-N | hrm ill redo it when i get home and see if i was just huffing that night |
| 20:23.04 | durcyn | WAU eats babies. |
| 20:23.09 | Mikk | go back a couple of wau versions |
| 20:23.15 | kenlyric | hmmm.. shouldn't mote of air be a trade good along with the other motes? |
| 20:23.22 | Mikk | then again, wau excluding stuff sounds a bit unlikely |
| 20:23.26 | Saint-N | of course not |
| 20:23.29 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 20:23.30 | Mikk | perhaps rather blame pasta's files script remake |
| 20:23.43 | Saint-N | theres a lot of unlabeled/mislabeled stuff |
| 20:23.45 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.45 | durcyn | Mikk: wau drops things on the floor with alarming frequency. |
| 20:23.50 | Kemayo | Mikk: It's in the latest-noext.xml, so it's probably not the files script. |
| 20:23.50 | Saint-N | mostly trade goods |
| 20:23.57 | Thrae | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.9 |
| 20:24.04 | Thrae | Hehe, 1.9 having problems? |
| 20:24.11 | Saint-N | just missing stuff |
| 20:24.12 | kenlyric | it seems when you label one mote you'd just label them all. |
| 20:24.15 | Mikk | mmh |
| 20:24.17 | Kemayo | Saint-N: I recomment using my updater instead. :D |
| 20:24.19 | Mikk | and crashing randomly |
| 20:24.19 | Saint-N | it displays differently in vista/xp/2000 |
| 20:24.20 | Mikk | ftw |
| 20:24.34 | Thrae | How interesting the topic tells you to update to 1.9 when 1.9 isn't stable :D |
| 20:24.41 | Saint-N | heh yaya updater! |
| 20:24.42 | durcyn | stable is overrated |
| 20:24.48 | Saint-N | its stable |
| 20:24.51 | Saint-N | jsut finicky |
| 20:24.54 | durcyn | every development organization i |
| 20:24.56 | durcyn | er |
| 20:24.56 | kenlyric | there are 20 versions of 1.9. many of them are stable. |
| 20:25.00 | Saint-N | its not like it crashes or anything |
| 20:25.04 | Mikk | orly? |
| 20:25.12 | Mikk | that's not what our users say |
| 20:25.23 | durcyn | every development organization i've ever worked with has attempted to release directly to production, why should wowace be any different? |
| 20:25.23 | Thrae | Saint-N: "Stable" or "Release-Quality" means "no bad bugs" (which don't include just crashing) |
| 20:25.32 | Thrae | durcyn: Welcome to /trunk! |
| 20:25.34 | Saint-N | your users have trouble installing a screensaver mikk ;) |
| 20:25.41 | kenlyric | tell your users to stop bitching and use wowi. |
| 20:25.57 | Mikk | tell ace devs to release to wowi first tho :P |
| 20:26.02 | Saint-N | kemayo: which updater btw? |
| 20:26.03 | durcyn | Thrae: of course, that's when we cut off their genitals and shove them off the roof |
| 20:26.17 | Kemayo | Saint-N: http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/downloads/list |
| 20:26.34 | Saint-N | python?! |
| 20:26.34 | Kemayo | Saint-N: ...only if you actually have Python installed, mind. I have an elite audience! |
| 20:26.40 | Saint-N | thats kinna rad actually |
| 20:26.43 | hyperChipmunk | if i knew there were bugs, I wouldn't be committing =P |
| 20:26.58 | Saint-N | can you purlie that for me? |
| 20:27.03 | Saint-N | so ill remember when i get home |
| 20:27.22 | Saint-N | <-- has python installed |
| 20:27.48 | Kemayo | Saint-N: I told purl to tell you. |
| 20:28.00 | Mikk | ~wowacepy |
| 20:28.05 | Saint-N | purl whats that thing kemayo made? |
| 20:28.22 | Saint-N | wapy? |
| 20:28.24 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:28.33 | Mikk | purl, wowacepy is a python script to update wowace addons from files.wowace.com. it is at http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/downloads/list |
| 20:28.34 | purl | okay, Mikk |
| 20:28.41 | Saint-N | danke |
| 20:28.53 | Saint-N | ~emulate bender |
| 20:28.54 | purl | Well I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk! |
| 20:29.01 | Saint-N | haha |
| 20:30.39 | trh | ~emulate fry |
| 20:30.40 | purl | My folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope? |
| 20:30.45 | trh | hrhr |
| 20:30.56 | Saint-N | ~emulate zoidberg |
| 20:31.07 | ben | So uh I am trying to talk my guild into donating money towards the development of Omen and Threat and stuff but they argue we would need to donate to thousands of people because The Ace Community is really big and I don't know |
| 20:31.23 | trh | zoidberg is the best.. best character of all :) |
| 20:31.30 | Kemayo | ben: Omen+Threat is fairly solidly Antiarc. |
| 20:31.42 | Saint-N | but antiarc doesnt deserve the money |
| 20:31.47 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r42114 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.toc: ClassTimer: Changed Babble-Spell-2.2 to Babble-2.2 in X-Embeds |
| 20:31.50 | trh | ben: just let them donate to the wowace.com project or antiarc |
| 20:31.52 | Mikk | no, give it all to me instead |
| 20:31.55 | Saint-N | hes got a job a wife a house and bathes |
| 20:31.56 | Mikk | :S |
| 20:32.17 | Saint-N | BUT |
| 20:32.24 | Saint-N | ya know what they could donate ben? |
| 20:32.33 | Saint-N | that would benefit everyone |
| 20:32.38 | Saint-N | a 60day timecard ;) |
| 20:32.46 | Saint-N | for anti of course |
| 20:32.51 | nadas | Antiarc|Work: http://ace.pastey.net/70013 |
| 20:33.08 | Antiarc|Work | Poo. |
| 20:33.13 | Antiarc|Work | I assumed it'd be there. |
| 20:33.19 | Antiarc|Work | I'll go look it up I guess. |
| 20:33.26 | nadas | :) |
| 20:33.27 | durcyn | if you give him money, he'll never learn to provide for himself. damn lazy coders. |
| 20:33.40 | Saint-N | and he'll blow it on pixie sticks and slurpees |
| 20:33.58 | kebinusan | get him a lil somethin somethin form mailorderbrides.com |
| 20:34.02 | Saint-N | and while that may help productivity, he wouldnt be able to afford his wow account ;P |
| 20:34.14 | Antiarc|Work | My wife wouldn't like that, kebinusan :P |
| 20:34.15 | Saint-N | and threat dry coded makes me scared |
| 20:34.23 | kebinusan | heheh |
| 20:34.24 | Saint-N | you could rent yer wife out ;) |
| 20:34.33 | Saint-N | problem solved! |
| 20:34.35 | Peoii | It's a known fact that programmers do better work when there is an ample supply of takeout Chinese, ice tea, and wassabi peas. |
| 20:34.43 | Saint-N | peoii |
| 20:34.49 | Saint-N | i found soemthing more rad tha wasabi peas |
| 20:34.51 | Chompers | no noodles? |
| 20:34.59 | Saint-N | wasabi peanuts! |
| 20:35.08 | Peoii | hrm... |
| 20:35.12 | Saint-N | imagine a little gobstopper of wasabi with a peanut center! |
| 20:35.16 | Antiarc|Work | Don't put any pressure on people to donate to me. If you want to great, if not, great. If you want to donate and don't know where send it to the ace project. |
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| 20:35.20 | Saint-N | its pure yummy painy goodness! |
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| 20:36.01 | Saint-N | ben: if your guild doesnt donate to anti threat and omen will fall by the wayside as soon as he finds another wierdo project to work on |
| 20:36.11 | Antiarc|Work | My Omen donations from the last two weeks actually went to a guildmate to get a new motherboard, since it blew up on him, so they are going to good use. :) |
| 20:36.17 | Saint-N | and then you'vd be responsible for letting the 100's of thousands of us that use it ;P |
| 20:36.25 | Saint-N | err lettings us down |
| 20:36.55 | Saint-N | i'd donate but i dont think he's that good of a coder ;) |
| 20:37.06 | Kadish | hola boys and girls |
| 20:37.08 | Kadish | does anyone recall what the channel for WAU is? |
| 20:37.12 | Saint-N | *cough*santity bags*cough* |
| 20:37.26 | deltron | #wau |
| 20:37.28 | deltron | :P |
| 20:37.48 | Kadish | damn you're right |
| 20:37.50 | Kadish | thanks :p |
| 20:37.54 | deltron | np :) |
| 20:37.56 | trh | Kadish: too easy ;) |
| 20:38.01 | Kadish | i know, i was like |
| 20:38.07 | Kadish | why is there noone in #wowaceupdater |
| 20:38.19 | Saint-N | too many characters |
| 20:38.41 | Saint-N | people dont join channels longer than 7 characters cuz it involves too much typing |
| 20:39.04 | Daemona | Kadish cause its #WAU |
| 20:39.09 | Kaelten | unless it involves the world sex or free porn |
| 20:39.31 | Saint-N | except #Daemona_gets_naked_and_dances_on_a_webcam_for_buddy_icons. |
| 20:39.34 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work, [2007/06/28 21:38:28-1073-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Improved Leader of the Pack" does not exist. from Threat-1.0 |
| 20:39.37 | Saint-N | and thats mainly for blackmailing later |
| 20:39.56 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: Fixing that now |
| 20:40.03 | Ominous | :) |
| 20:40.08 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, non enUS people, do you have Imp LotP translations for me? |
| 20:40.37 | Daemona | i gonna dance over your dead body Saint-N once i placed my Boundless Agony in your back. |
| 20:40.40 | Saint-N | "La Improved Leader of How you say Pack" |
| 20:40.45 | Saint-N | thats french ;) |
| 20:40.48 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: If Babble-Spell-2.2 doesn't have the localization of a spell, why dosn't it just throw out the key used and give a debug error message? |
| 20:40.58 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42115 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: |
| 20:40.58 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 20:40.58 | CIA-22 | - Make alt+leftclick on bars toggle the anchor... I'd have preferred immediate dragging but no can do with CandyBar. |
| 20:41.07 | Antiarc|Work | Thrae: I dunno. |
| 20:41.14 | Antiarc|Work | Does "Verbesserte Rudelf\195\188hrer" sound right for deDE? |
| 20:41.17 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: Annoy ckknight with that |
| 20:41.46 | trh | Antiarc: not really ;) |
| 20:41.46 | Thrae | I think addons should just try to continue working if they reach a non-critical error, and give diagnostic messages if people have them enabled |
| 20:41.58 | Antiarc|Work | "Chef de la meute améliorée" in french? |
| 20:42.18 | durcyn | eek. avoid babelfish. |
| 20:42.21 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not |
| 20:42.29 | Antiarc|Work | I'm making educated guesses based on existing spell data |
| 20:42.38 | Antiarc|Work | And my rudimnentary knowledge of said languages |
| 20:42.44 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not touching the eastern languages :P |
| 20:42.46 | Daemona | "verbesserter rudelführer" @ Antiarc|Work |
| 20:42.53 | Antiarc|Work | Yay, right :D |
| 20:43.33 | Ominous | do you need semi-colons in C? |
| 20:43.40 | Mikk | yes |
| 20:43.41 | trh | Ominous: yes |
| 20:43.53 | trh | Ominous: alot of :) |
| 20:43.54 | Ominous | thanks :) |
| 20:45.08 | Fin | I love the way you can write readable code sometimes in Lua |
| 20:45.14 | Antiarc|Work | LÃder mejorado de la manada sounds right for esES? |
| 20:45.26 | Fin | I wish it were possible to do a couple of other things, though, that I've seen in other languages |
| 20:46.18 | Fin | like instead of if test then do something end, something like do something if test |
| 20:46.24 | Fin | hang on |
| 20:47.40 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42116 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added Improved Leader of the Pack with deDE, esES, and frFR translations. esES and frFR are educated guesses, please verify. Need koKR, zhTW and zhCN translations. |
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| 20:48.17 | mikma | pff :P |
| 20:48.23 | Fin | hmm, balls |
| 20:50.12 | PProvost_ | Fin, you are looking for Ruby syntax eh? |
| 20:50.31 | hypetech | anybody know a good way to find the guy for "Escape from Skettis"? |
| 20:50.33 | Antiarc|Work | <3 Ruby syntax |
| 20:50.57 | CIA-22 | 03mikma * r42117 10beql/: beql: lern2svn:externals properly. libs works now non fruits too |
| 20:51.07 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 20:51.18 | PProvost_ | Yeah I love it too. But the parser for a syntax like Ruby is a lot more complicated than the one for Lua. Lua was designed for small. Oh well. |
| 20:51.30 | hypetech | so why is WAU2 showing addons out of date that WAU isn't? |
| 20:51.48 | Kalman| | hypetech: There's only 2 locations I've ever seen him spawn in, one on either side of the lake. |
| 20:51.55 | Kalman| | Thottbot comments have the locations listed. |
| 20:52.09 | Mikk | hypetech: prolly because wau2 looks at dependencies? |
| 20:52.12 | ckknight | ben: hey, I need money too... :-P |
| 20:52.16 | *** part/#wowace Kadish (n=Kadish@208.48.253.226) |
| 20:53.15 | ckknight | Thrae: module systems aren't too hard to make, I made a localized version of it in Threat-1.0 |
| 20:54.06 | durcyn | hypetech: there are only three locations.. make a 'target skyguard prisoner' macro and run around spamming it |
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| 20:54.39 | Thrae | ckknight: What are you talking about? I'm talking about Babble-Spell-2.2 or Threat-1.0 throwing a critical error instead of a diagnostic error (message usage) if a localization doesn't exist. |
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| 20:56.58 | Fin | PProvost_: I don't know Ruby I'm afraid, on my todo list in life though :) |
| 20:57.37 | PProvost_ | hypetech: /join #wau |
| 21:01.20 | Fin | does Ace2 have a table copy function? |
| 21:01.49 | PProvost | Fin: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tcopy |
| 21:01.55 | Fin | PProvost: danke :) |
| 21:02.08 | PProvost | There might be better ways, but I've used that before. |
| 21:03.09 | Fin | PProvost: what does it mean by <PREFIX>_tcopy, do you know? |
| 21:03.20 | Fin | oh |
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| 21:03.22 | Fin | right |
| 21:03.33 | PProvost | It assumes a non-ace way of coding where you put your addon name there. |
| 21:03.44 | Fin | damn! too late |
| 21:03.54 | ckknight | Thrae: relying on dongle for a module system |
| 21:04.29 | Thrae | ckknight: Oh well, I corrected myself and said the underlying framework used would be Dongle for the Module Core, but that framework will be transparent to the modules. Is that what you meant? |
| 21:04.43 | Josh_Borke | thrae: you fail! |
| 21:04.44 | ckknight | Thrae: and so you know, the errors that AceLocale (and hence what you're referring to) does geterrorhandler()(message), not error(message) |
| 21:04.48 | Fin | PProvost: thanks muchly for the pointer, I was actually wondering if Ace2 had a function like that built in somewhere - I was guessing that something like that already existed, I figure it's a relatively common thing to want to do |
| 21:05.23 | Fin | PProvost: I'll just copy that function though, I think :) |
| 21:05.56 | Thrae | Josh_Borke: Why am I failing? |
| 21:06.11 | Josh_Borke | thrae: operating WhoMod successfully |
| 21:06.34 | Thrae | I don't use WhoMod after it deleted all my characters while swearing at me and signing me up for IGE's "Gold of the Month" club |
| 21:07.13 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42118 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Fixes considering all nonmelee damage as melee damage (melee damage was then being classified as Physical) |
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| 21:08.44 | ulic | anyone know of a tutorial for building frames in lua? |
| 21:09.07 | hypetech | ulic: good question |
| 21:09.15 | Antiarc|Work | local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "MyFrame", UIParent) |
| 21:09.16 | Antiarc|Work | Done! |
| 21:09.34 | Thrae | xhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7317-1.0.html |
| 21:10.06 | Daemona | ckknight ? there is a minor hickup in the spark module of pitbull, doing reloadui while dead will through repeated errors |
| 21:10.18 | Thrae | Finally, Ace2Khaos! |
| 21:10.41 | ulic | I was going to say, that looks like a nice GUI, but I don't know that it will help me learn :) |
| 21:10.45 | ulic | looks good Thrae |
| 21:11.25 | Thrae | ulic: ckknight or Kaelten could explain the history between Ace2 and Cosmos/Khaos ;) |
| 21:15.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42119 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Optimizations to new enemy detection; won't run in any battleground (AV included), won't run if ThreatLib isn't supposed to be active. Drycoded, please test. |
| 21:15.26 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r42120 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/History.lua: |
| 21:15.26 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 21:15.26 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.27 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.30 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.33 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.38 | Tem | Thrae, I thoroughly that ck could explain the "history" |
| 21:15.43 | Tem | he hasn't been around long enough |
| 21:15.52 | Tem | and really, the two don't _have_ a history |
| 21:16.00 | Fin | you thoroughly what, Tem? |
| 21:16.09 | Tem | doubt |
| 21:16.13 | Fin | oh, k |
| 21:16.22 | Tem | i is the guud tipar |
| 21:16.23 | Josh_Borke | lrn2readbetween the lines |
| 21:16.40 | Fin | ITYM learn2lines |
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| 21:16.56 | Tem | there was a period about 2.5 years ago where one Ace author (Rowne) made a bunch of stink |
| 21:17.20 | Tem | he had a rather over-inflated opinion, and was generally wrong about a lot of things |
| 21:17.21 | *** part/#wowace Antiarc|Work (n=cheald@208.187.119.42) |
| 21:17.31 | Fin | (sorry) |
| 21:17.37 | Thrae | Tem: True. It was mostly Rowne vs Cosmos back in the day. But a lot of people caught on and just made jokes about how stupid Cosmos coding is, and it's come up every now and then ;) |
| 21:18.15 | deltron | cosmos was what a lot of us started out using though |
| 21:18.17 | Fin | vs Gypsy! Gypsy ruled |
| 21:18.22 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42121 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to the PW:S handler. |
| 21:18.25 | Thrae | For one thing you have to give Cosmos community credit -- I haven't seen many instances of developers bashing other people's code |
| 21:18.49 | Kody- | Cosmos is the AOL of WoW Interfaces imo |
| 21:19.00 | Kody- | Or was in WoW Beta anyway :P |
| 21:19.15 | Fin | Kody-: what would you call Nurfed? :) |
| 21:19.42 | Kody- | That is a tough call |
| 21:20.00 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 21:20.21 | Tem | basically the whole "history" is a few loud mouths spewing their opinions |
| 21:20.36 | Tem | and the rest of the addon world assuming those loud mouths spoke for the rest of us |
| 21:20.46 | deltron | someone said they don't like ace because of the loudmouths :P |
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| 21:20.58 | Tem | (and spoke for the dev team! That was a lot of fun to deal with) |
| 21:21.15 | Fin | I think we should all just get along |
| 21:21.26 | Fin | the world would be awesome if everyone was a little nicer to each other |
| 21:22.24 | pastamancer | ~hug Fin |
| 21:22.25 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Fin |
| 21:23.37 | Fin | aww |
| 21:23.56 | jme | ~cookie purl |
| 21:24.18 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42122 10AuldLangSyne/ (AuldLangSyne.lua Fu/Fu.lua): |
| 21:24.18 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: Drycode! |
| 21:24.19 | CIA-22 | -Core: Set the menu args key for modules as the lowercase module name. |
| 21:24.19 | CIA-22 | -Fu: Add guild/officer notes. |
| 21:24.30 | Fin | hugging is nice, but I was more thinking of the killing and physical and mental violence, and stuff |
| 21:24.42 | Chompers | netherspite with no priest, fun |
| 21:24.55 | deltron | pally! |
| 21:27.34 | alb | haha, i've found a new hobbey |
| 21:27.42 | alb | doing /follow on rogues in durotar |
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| 21:30.36 | hypetech | alb: reported -.- |
| 21:30.51 | alb | :D |
| 21:32.42 | Fin | Thrae: uhm, am I doing something wrong? I did GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine() and the line wouldn't show until I tried putting GameTooltip:Show() |
| 21:32.58 | Fin | -Thrae+anyone |
| 21:33.06 | deltron | alb: eh? |
| 21:33.20 | Thrae | Fin: AddLine and AddDoubleLine requires Show called if you want the GameTooltip to, well, SHOW your results. |
| 21:34.16 | Fin | Thrae: yes... that's what I would've assumed... I must've misunderstood you saying that it wasn't necessary to call GameTooltip:Show() before |
| 21:34.18 | Tem | no it doesn't, Thrae |
| 21:34.28 | Tem | it requires :Show to be called for the tooltip to resize |
| 21:34.35 | Fin | I mean, I don't know why you'd want to add a line to the tooltip and not want it to be displayed |
| 21:34.43 | Tem | (as long as the tooltip was visible before you called :Addwhatever) |
| 21:34.43 | Thrae | Yeah, that's what I meant. |
| 21:34.50 | Fin | Tem: well without :Show() it doesn't show up |
| 21:35.06 | Fin | so I'm claiming that it *is* necessary to call :Show() after :AddDoubleLine() to make your changes visible |
| 21:35.08 | Tem | if it was already visible, the extra show only resizes |
| 21:35.10 | Fin | nyer |
| 21:35.13 | Thrae | Fin: OnTooltipSetUnit is called BEFORE the GameTooltip is Visible (check this with GameTooltip:IsVisible ) |
| 21:35.22 | Fin | I actually did look underneath it |
| 21:35.44 | Fin | Tem: Thrae told me last night that that wasn't necessary anymore |
| 21:35.58 | Tem | bzzzt |
| 21:36.08 | Thrae | Fin: No I didn't |
| 21:36.12 | syeren | In HTML / CSS, is there anyway to make a whole table cell be a link, or would I have to make it an image? |
| 21:36.14 | Fin | Thrae: so my AddDoubleLine() was wiped out by something else? |
| 21:36.16 | Thrae | I wasn't on IRC last night |
| 21:36.46 | Fin | syeren: you can do <table onclick='location="http://www.example.com/";'> |
| 21:37.00 | syeren | For each cell? |
| 21:37.00 | Fin | erm, about 48 hours ago, sorry |
| 21:37.01 | syeren | Nice :p |
| 21:37.20 | Fin | sorry, two days ago, my apologies |
| 21:37.31 | Thrae | Fin: Well, first make sure all other addons are disabled. And if you're doing the AddLine in OnTooltipSetUnit, you need to call Show to resize. |
| 21:37.40 | Fin | hang on, I'm obviously remembering something wrongly, lemme check my IRC logs |
| 21:38.11 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42123 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (Druid.lua Priest.lua Warlock.lua Warrior.lua): |
| 21:38.11 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 21:38.11 | CIA-22 | - Added threat modifiers to PW:S |
| 21:38.11 | CIA-22 | - Fixed threat from Disarm |
| 21:38.11 | CIA-22 | - Increased the Soulshatter resist timeout period |
| 21:38.13 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up some cruft |
| 21:38.24 | Fin | (I'm not trying to start an argument! you guys are so defensive :) |
| 21:38.25 | Thrae | Fin: I use a different character to test my addons, that way I don't have to worry about enabling and disabling addons |
| 21:38.44 | Thrae | Fin: I'm not arguing, I'm just stating good debugging tactics :) |
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| 21:39.05 | NightHawkAtWork | syeren: if you want an entire table cell to be a link, i think using a javascript onclick handler in the td/th tag is the only way to do it. |
| 21:39.13 | hypetech | mikk you around? |
| 21:39.24 | NightHawkAtWork | aside from just shoving an image in there, and linking around that. |
| 21:39.29 | Kemayo | Fin: It was ckknight who said :Show isn't necessary. |
| 21:39.32 | Fin | Thrae: sure, I was referring to other comments really :) and yes, that's what I would do, I agree |
| 21:39.43 | Fin | wait, I'm sure Thrae said it earlier, or something similar |
| 21:40.56 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: I have a report of WAU crashes in Vista |
| 21:41.06 | Kaelten | 2 or 1.9? |
| 21:41.33 | Mikk | hypetech: yes |
| 21:42.04 | deltron | 1.9 was crashing on me a couple days ago |
| 21:42.09 | deltron | I didn't update it though :P |
| 21:42.53 | Fin | 04:07 < Thrae> The reason slouken makes us manually call Show() is because internally Show() iterates over ALL tooltip items to make sure the width and height is correct (from my knowledge). |
| 21:42.57 | Fin | 04:07 < Thrae> So calling that on every single AddLine/AddDoubleLine doesn't make sense. AppendText DOES call Show, though. |
| 21:43.03 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect 1.9, but checking. |
| 21:43.30 | Antiarc|Work | yeah, 1.9 |
| 21:43.37 | Antiarc|Work | 1.9.15 |
| 21:43.44 | Thrae | Fin: Ah, well sorry if there was a misunderstanding. What I'm trying to explain is WHY Show is required for resizing. |
| 21:43.56 | Thrae | Fin: And I mean GameTooltip:Show (which I was talking about earlier) |
| 21:44.04 | Antiarc|Work | "vista said "problem with file" and forced a shutdown of it" |
| 21:44.06 | Thrae | AppendText does resize the tooltip by itself, etc. |
| 21:44.12 | harldephin | wah! tooltips! |
| 21:44.17 | harldephin | *hides* |
| 21:44.25 | Fin | I'm reading through my logs now, and you actually tried to explain it to me properly; sorry |
| 21:44.46 | jme | for great justice! |
| 21:46.15 | Fin | Thrae: I've seen a few times people say that initially the line added by AddDoubleLine / AddLine is "outside" the tooltip - does that just mean, on the screen but outside the border? |
| 21:46.16 | harldephin | for the greater good of the best in all blessed things ? |
| 21:46.24 | harldephin | like.. apple juice ? |
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| 21:47.50 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42124 10VanasKoS/modules/ChatNotifier.lua: VanasKoS: only color the name of a hate/nicelist entry in chat instead of the whole chatline |
| 21:48.18 | Thrae | Fin: That's because when text is added into the GameTooltip by the game engine, the resize from Show is called to size the tooltip directly to the size of all its fontstrings. So when new fonstrings are initialized / added (AddLine, AddDoubleLine), or text in the existing fontstrings are changed, the GameTooltip width and height are NOT automatically changed, so the text will go outside of the borders. |
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| 21:48.42 | Thrae | Fin: added / initialized / changed by addons, that is |
| 21:50.29 | Fin | got it |
| 21:50.37 | harldephin | cute. |
| 21:50.43 | Fin | thanks |
| 21:50.50 | harldephin | hehe |
| 21:52.16 | Fin | and: yes, wah; yes, for the greater good and justice in all things; possibly apple juice but I prefer fake banana + orange juice; cute, yet still retaining an aura of rugged mountaineer-like wisdom; and heheh |
| 21:52.43 | harl|EFC | ;) |
| 21:54.14 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42125 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua: |
| 21:54.14 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 21:54.14 | CIA-22 | Fu: Remove a lingering self. |
| 21:54.52 | harl|EFC | mhm |
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| 21:57.14 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r42126 10VanasKoS/modules/ChatNotifier.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix |
| 22:00.04 | Antiarc|Work | I'd like my SVN login changed to ~antiarc so that I proc purl every time I do a check-in |
| 22:00.29 | trh | ~antiarc * r1337 Test |
| 22:00.48 | trh | wouldn't work.. unless purl lags ;) |
| 22:01.16 | Thrae | ~literal antiarc |
| 22:01.17 | purl | "antiarc" is "the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ - I guess he's the destroyer of worlds, too, or somethin'" |
| 22:01.35 | Thrae | That isn't a function |
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| 22:02.28 | Antiarc|Work | no, purl, antiarc is the author of Sanity, Hemlock, and Omen, and project lead on Threat-1.0, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ |
| 22:02.52 | Antiarc|Work | I did that wrong didn't I? |
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| 22:03.00 | Ominous | ~antiarc |
| 22:03.01 | purl | it has been said that antiarc is the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ - I guess he's the destroyer of worlds, too, or somethin' |
| 22:03.02 | Min464 | WOW! Free phone calls - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/ |
| 22:03.04 | *** part/#wowace Min464 (n=10373019@IGLD-83-130-46-141.inter.net.il) |
| 22:03.09 | Antiarc|Work | purl, no, antiarc is the author of Sanity, Hemlock, and Omen, and project lead on Threat-1.0, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ |
| 22:03.10 | purl | okay, Antiarc|Work |
| 22:03.13 | Antiarc|Work | There we go |
| 22:03.16 | Antiarc|Work | ~omen |
| 22:03.17 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, omen is a movie about the guy who programmed me, the devil that is. |
| 22:03.58 | Ominous | Antiarc: that link dont work |
| 22:04.20 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, server's down |
| 22:04.25 | Antiarc|Work | Died about an hour ago |
| 22:04.28 | Antiarc|Work | I'll reboot it when I get home |
| 22:04.53 | Fin | ~ominous |
| 22:04.54 | purl | methinks ominous is the bomb. |
| 22:05.03 | trh | ~ckknight |
| 22:05.04 | purl | f*ck you, guy |
| 22:05.05 | Ominous | rofl |
| 22:05.07 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahah |
| 22:05.09 | trh | lol |
| 22:05.38 | Antiarc|Work | ~puprl |
| 22:05.42 | Antiarc|Work | Well that didn't work out |
| 22:05.43 | Antiarc|Work | ~purl |
| 22:05.48 | Ominous | ~fin |
| 22:05.49 | purl | from memory, fin is Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 22:05.53 | Antiarc|Work | Hah |
| 22:05.53 | Daemona | its purple Antiarc|Work ;) |
| 22:05.56 | Ominous | rofl |
| 22:06.12 | Antiarc|Work | ~pgl |
| 22:06.26 | Fin | wish I was a drood |
| 22:06.28 | Antiarc|Work | "Freedom to Innovate" means "Screw your standards", right? |
| 22:06.34 | Antiarc|Work | ~drood |
| 22:06.38 | Fin | then I could say I was Freedom to Innervate |
| 22:06.43 | Fin | hrr |
| 22:06.51 | trh | ~kaelten |
| 22:06.51 | purl | from memory, kaelten is More RAM is coming..... KAELTEN AWAYYYYYYYY!!! |
| 22:06.57 | Antiarc|Work | ... |
| 22:07.20 | Ominous | heh |
| 22:07.27 | Kaelten | :P |
| 22:07.56 | Kaelten | you guys are lucky I don't pull the plug :P |
| 22:08.18 | Fin | ~emulate ominous |
| 22:08.25 | Fin | hmm |
| 22:08.26 | Kemayo | Wow... I'm looking at the start of one of my addon threads and seeing talk of revision 4362. So tiny... |
| 22:08.32 | Ominous | ~emulate Fin |
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| 22:09.07 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:09.08 | trh | Kemayo: hehe.. i've seen a version of my addon from over a year ago.. it was awesome.. like 400 lines =) |
| 22:09.11 | Kaelten | ya thoe where the days eh? |
| 22:10.54 | trh | well.... tbh.... in terms of addon programming, i don't really miss the times where you had to do everything by yourself =) |
| 22:11.00 | trh | ace/ace2 are just great :) |
| 22:11.02 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 22:11.05 | Kemayo | Yup. The initial commit of AuldLangSyne was 273 lines. |
| 22:11.43 | Kaelten | KC_Items has always been a lot of code |
| 22:12.38 | Kemayo | Nowadays, not counting localizations, it's 1638. |
| 22:13.05 | trh | got a tool to count lines under windows? =) |
| 22:13.22 | ilifin | wordpad |
| 22:13.30 | trh | for more than one file |
| 22:13.36 | ilifin | wordpad+calc |
| 22:13.40 | Bver | hey does anyone else have problems with the ag_uf player frame not updating your mana pool when you zone out of a Battleground?? |
| 22:13.41 | Kemayo | No. But I have line-numbers in my editor and there were only 6 files to check. :P |
| 22:13.45 | trh | *shoots a arrow in ilifin's face* |
| 22:13.57 | ilifin | Kemayo did it oldschool, you can do |
| 22:14.04 | trh | with like 20 files it's a bit too much =) |
| 22:15.32 | yacoob | trh, wc from cygwin? |
| 22:16.01 | trh | yacoob: just uploaded it to my router =) |
| 22:16.07 | Fin | are "list" or "index" reserved words in Lua? |
| 22:16.09 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r42127 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 22:16.09 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 22:16.09 | CIA-22 | - koKR update |
| 22:16.10 | yacoob | good 8) |
| 22:16.19 | trh | 9459 lines |
| 22:16.22 | trh | whoa |
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| 22:16.44 | trh | Fin: i don't think so |
| 22:17.07 | trh | fin: at least i use them as locals pretty often and never had a problem |
| 22:17.12 | Fin | trh: thanks |
| 22:17.30 | Fin | I think I'm using a reserved word somewhere because I'm getting a weird error, and I can't figure out why |
| 22:18.07 | Fin | +and hope someone's feeling nice :) |
| 22:19.00 | NeoTron | in my guild that is |
| 22:19.05 | trh | NeoTron: gkick & getting new ones ;) |
| 22:19.10 | Fin | I thought it was illegal to sell accounts? |
| 22:19.18 | Fin | "illegal" |
| 22:19.22 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: ever figure pet threat out? |
| 22:19.29 | ilifin | NeoTron yikes :p |
| 22:19.30 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Haven't looked at lock threat |
| 22:19.35 | Antiarc|Work | hunter pet's pretty damn close though |
| 22:19.39 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:19.41 | ckknight | cool |
| 22:19.48 | ckknight | no one plays locks anyway |
| 22:19.50 | Antiarc|Work | I'm gonna hijack a guildie's lock tonight and figure it out |
| 22:19.51 | ckknight | too underpowered |
| 22:20.06 | trh | Antiarc|Work: there's still some inaccuracy with screech from owls |
| 22:20.10 | ckknight | (jk) |
| 22:20.14 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, screech isn't handled ATM |
| 22:20.18 | Antiarc|Work | I need threat values on it |
| 22:20.20 | Fin | aha |
| 22:20.22 | Fin | got it |
| 22:20.29 | Fin | I'm just stupid, after all |
| 22:21.19 | |newbie| | Date: 2007-06-29 00:20:07 |
| 22:21.19 | DesertDwarf | I'm having a problem with WAU. I get this error (and a whole bunch after): Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: Unable to connect to the remote server ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it |
| 22:21.19 | |newbie| | ID: 51 |
| 22:21.19 | |newbie| | Error occured in: Global |
| 22:21.19 | |newbie| | Count: 1 |
| 22:21.19 | |newbie| | Message: ...AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Priest.lua line 96: |
| 22:21.19 | |newbie| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.20 | trh | Antiarc|Work: i'm trying to figure some out if i have some time left at the weekend |
| 22:21.20 | |newbie| | Debug: |
| 22:21.20 | |newbie| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.20 | |newbie| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.20 | |newbie| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.20 | |newbie| | :( |
| 22:21.20 | Gnarfoz | nomen est omen |
| 22:21.22 | Antiarc|Work | |newbie|: Update if you can - fixed that one already. |
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| 22:21.26 | |newbie| | ah ok |
| 22:21.27 | Fin | |newbie|: http://pastey.net/ <-- good for pasting lots of text that would otherwise annoy people on IRC |
| 22:21.36 | |newbie| | Fin: thx^^ |
| 22:21.37 | trh | |newbie|: and please use ace.pastey.net for pasting more than 3 lines |
| 22:21.39 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin: you're faster than me. :P |
| 22:21.40 | Antiarc|Work | Aye. If it's more than 2 lines or so, a pastey is generally appreciated. |
| 22:22.05 | |newbie| | will do that next time |
| 22:22.08 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: should really purl it :) |
| 22:22.10 | DesertDwarf | Yeah, he blew away my question. :-) |
| 22:22.10 | Fin | ~purl pastey |
| 22:22.11 | purl | i guess pastey is the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. http://norganna.pastey.net Insert the text, press the 'Paste' button, and post the resulting URL in here. |
| 22:22.23 | Fin | ~pastey.net |
| 22:22.25 | CIA-22 | 03solor * r42128 10TauntWarn/ (Libs/ TauntWarn-enUS.lua TauntWarn.lua TauntWarn.toc): |
| 22:22.25 | CIA-22 | TauntWarn: |
| 22:22.25 | CIA-22 | - added paladin support from forums |
| 22:22.45 | Fin | purl, pastey.net is <reply> http://pastey.net/ <-- good for pasting lots of text that would otherwise annoy people on IRC |
| 22:22.46 | purl | Fin: okay |
| 22:22.51 | Fin | purl, tell fin about pastey |
| 22:22.56 | Antiarc|Work | trh: I wouldn't be surprised if it scales, too |
| 22:23.08 | Antiarc|Work | So that's a consideration |
| 22:23.36 | trh | Antiarc|Work: uh.. at my flatmates computer omen switches between two positions on target changes (like a setpoint going wrong) |
| 22:23.44 | trh | Antiarc|Work: he has grow upwards turned on |
| 22:23.48 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I haven't tracked that one down yet. |
| 22:23.53 | Antiarc|Work | Not sure what's up with it, but I've seen it |
| 22:24.02 | Antiarc|Work | Something with anchoring, likely. |
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| 22:26.05 | Kody- | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/2091/ new rating system is up, gotta head to a gods & heroes press event so if anyone has feedback on it please leave it in a pm or post on the forums :) |
| 22:26.09 | CIA-22 | 03solor * r42129 10TauntWarn/TauntWarn.toc: |
| 22:26.09 | CIA-22 | TauntWarn: |
| 22:26.09 | CIA-22 | - can also bump toc to 20100 /slap me |
| 22:26.17 | vithos | so, anybody else getting fatal access violation exceptions in WoW frequently for the past couple days? |
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| 22:28.22 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r42130 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: prevents the lockups while still allowing frames to be created if login while in combat |
| 22:28.24 | Moltarain | vithos: had after all latest patches. just removed my WTF and rebuilt the UI and it stoped |
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| 22:30.32 | trh | vhaarr: is there a way with cartographer_switcher to switch back to the set you wear before it switched? withing default i only see static sets |
| 22:30.48 | vhaarr | trh: no, there is nto |
| 22:30.49 | vhaarr | not* |
| 22:30.55 | vhaarr | someone should change it to that behavoir though |
| 22:31.02 | vhaarr | make it work like cg_mount |
| 22:31.19 | trh | vhaarr: yeah.. would be nice, at least a option in default to switch to "prior set" or sth |
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| 22:35.43 | Fin | arg! some error, all because I used "done" instead of "end" to close a for loop :) |
| 22:35.46 | Fin | idiot :) |
| 22:35.57 | Kirkburn | Fin, just read your change note for Prat. Can I just say .... *groan* |
| 22:36.35 | harl|EFC | what's the font style used by FuBar ? |
| 22:36.42 | Fin | Kirkburn: flattery will get you everywhere! :) |
| 22:36.44 | Fin | ultracool |
| 22:36.50 | Kirkburn | awesomish |
| 22:36.57 | trh | Fin: i tried to close if's and methods in java by writing end today ;) |
| 22:37.19 | Kirkburn | Fin, can I get a large mace and try flattering you instead |
| 22:37.31 | Antiarc|Work | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 22:37.34 | Antiarc|Work | <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 |
| 22:37.44 | Fin | trh: hah! I keep doing != as well, even though ~= is one of the things I love about Lua (for some reason) |
| 22:37.51 | harl|EFC | flattening? |
| 22:37.51 | Antiarc|Work | Gosh, I hope Kenco's will go to homecoming with me. |
| 22:37.51 | Kirkburn | harl|EFC, what do you mean exactly? |
| 22:37.52 | Fin | Kirkburn: you can love me tender |
| 22:38.14 | harl|EFC | Kirkburn: i mean something like GameFontNormal or whatever |
| 22:38.18 | trh | Antiarc|Work: lol.. he doesn't get it |
| 22:38.25 | trh | Antiarc|Work: or doesnt want to get it |
| 22:38.26 | Antiarc|Work | No, he really, really doesn't. |
| 22:38.30 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: good offense is best defense |
| 22:38.52 | Kirkburn | I *think* it is indeed GameFontNormal, or GameFontNormalSmall |
| 22:39.17 | mikma | Kirkburn: find me a way to change the Blizz FCT font :) |
| 22:39.31 | Kirkburn | A good offence is to call them French or possibly even Scottish. |
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| 22:40.05 | mikma | oh i know |
| 22:40.09 | mikma | call them aussie |
| 22:40.29 | Kirkburn | Antiarc|Work, ergh |
| 22:40.51 | Kirkburn | Please, please take the high ground and explain it to him clearly |
| 22:40.59 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn: I've done it multiple times already. |
| 22:41.01 | trh | Kirkburn: he did in like 3 postings |
| 22:41.05 | Shirik | you take the high road and I'll take the low road |
| 22:41.13 | Shirik | and I'll get to scotland before ye |
| 22:41.17 | Kirkburn | I mean in words with 2 syllables or less |
| 22:41.24 | Antiarc|Work | He's shooting his own users in the face, so more power to him, I guess. |
| 22:41.28 | Kirkburn | One syllable might help |
| 22:41.40 | Kirkburn | Diagrams! |
| 22:41.42 | Shirik | 182:372:50 12Fin12 trh: hah! I keep doing != as well, even though ~= is one of the things I love about Lua (for some reason) |
| 22:41.44 | Shirik | really? I hate it |
| 22:41.48 | Kirkburn | Draw some diagrams! In paint! |
| 22:41.49 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: now you have to admit that I was right in the first place |
| 22:41.51 | Fin | oh! yeah that's right, wanted to say ages ago but you weren't around Antiarc: your post was awesome, at the end of the last round of drama |
| 22:41.56 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: fuck that dude and be nasty |
| 22:42.13 | Kirkburn | mikma, thank you for the lovely imagery |
| 22:42.22 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: yea, he really is cutting off his nose to spite his face |
| 22:42.26 | Antiarc|Work | mikma, the more he devolves into childishness, the more a professional stance helps me :) |
| 22:42.42 | Fin | heh, "fuck that dude and be nasty" |
| 22:42.50 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: you should talk about how your implementation is "19.19-compatible", and thus that's why you listed it as your version number. |
| 22:42.52 | mikma | Kirkburn: wut? :D |
| 22:43.04 | ckknight | and possibly site the oRA-CTRA stuff as precedence |
| 22:43.07 | mikma | oh that hehe |
| 22:43.11 | Fin | be nasty like, mud wrestling anal granny sex |
| 22:43.14 | Antiarc|Work | I thought that would be pretty self-evident, y'know? |
| 22:43.20 | Kirkburn | Just so I'm clear, if Threat said to KTM, "hello I'm Threat rRAWR" ... it's not actually going to get a response, is it? |
| 22:43.21 | Fin | Shirik: dunno why |
| 22:43.25 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: it's not. |
| 22:43.27 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn: No, it won't. |
| 22:43.29 | Chompers | hinterlands chicken escort attemt #8 |
| 22:43.34 | Chompers | wonder how it'll go |
| 22:43.38 | ckknight | Kirkburn: right, it wouldn't listen. |
| 22:43.45 | trh | Kirkburn: if(versionunmber < 100) return |
| 22:43.50 | trh | Kirkburn: in KTM_Net.lua i think |
| 22:43.50 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn: I have to say "I'm KTM from 200 years in the future! RAWR!", which is kinda appropriate anyhow. |
| 22:44.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:44.40 | Kirkburn | ooh, bitchy |
| 22:44.57 | harl|EFC | Kirkburn: thanks. i just SetShadowOffset(0, 0) for any GameFont-whatever. didn't know i had to do it for every font style and thought that it just wouldn't add a shadow if no shadow offset was set. - at least the shadows are gone now. :) |
| 22:45.02 | Antiarc|Work | he assumes that versions are numeric, and that no string data is attached |
| 22:45.11 | Antiarc|Work | And he completely ignored my offer to adapt to a version-useragent protocol. |
| 22:45.12 | Kirkburn | harl|EFC, cool |
| 22:45.38 | trh | Antiarc|Work: just send Threat-r<revision> and let his tonumber return nil :) |
| 22:45.53 | durcyn | protocol version and client version should never be one in the same, meh. |
| 22:45.54 | Antiarc|Work | trh: That throws errors and punishes the users, which I don't want to do. |
| 22:46.12 | trh | Antiarc|Work: he checks for nil on tonumber |
| 22:46.13 | Mikk | Send a negative number to indicate "compatible with, but not ktm?" |
| 22:46.17 | Antiarc|Work | ah, does he? |
| 22:46.19 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure, but it's sounds as if he thinks that Threat is like a different version of ktm |
| 22:46.30 | durcyn | send the string "blow me, kenco" |
| 22:46.57 | trh | Antiarc|Work:local value = tonumber(data) |
| 22:46.57 | trh | if value == nil then |
| 22:46.57 | trh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.57 | trh | end |
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| 22:48.05 | Kirkburn | So, please explain to me what all this useragent stuff is about |
| 22:48.23 | Kirkburn | How exactly does KTM treat it all? |
| 22:48.54 | trh | Kirkburn: he basically wants to let ktm display "threat-r1337" instead of "invalid" oder "spoofed" or whatever it does now on a version request |
| 22:48.58 | Antiarc|Work | KTM doesn't have any kind of facility for accepting a KTM-compatible non-KTM threat agent. |
| 22:49.16 | Antiarc|Work | Which is all fine and dandy, so we used the KTM-compatible version ID for Threat |
| 22:49.29 | Kirkburn | Ah, so it expects any agent to be KTM |
| 22:49.39 | Antiarc|Work | But then Kenco throws a bitchfit about it so I suggested a version/useragent protocol that lets me ID myself as a non-KTM-but-compatible threat agent |
| 22:49.50 | Antiarc|Work | And he's saying "Just tell me you're KTM v 118.292 and it's fine" |
| 22:49.55 | Antiarc|Work | Which is just retarded. |
| 22:50.13 | Kirkburn | Cause you're like NOT KTM |
| 22:50.19 | Antiarc|Work | Right. |
| 22:50.21 | Kirkburn | Cool, so I did read it correctly |
| 22:50.31 | Kirkburn | "All you had to do was report your own version" was the kicker |
| 22:50.40 | Antiarc|Work | He's expecting me to report my revision |
| 22:50.40 | harl|EFC | let's all have some random revision numbers printed on our foreheads. |
| 22:50.43 | Antiarc|Work | 49124 or whatever. |
| 22:50.45 | trh | best thing is that he broke with his stuff real ktm's reporting the version |
| 22:50.47 | Antiarc|Work | Which is just stupid. |
| 22:50.48 | ckknight | it makes you just want to send a blank Thr message across the stream when you don't have Threat-1.0 and you do have KTM |
| 22:50.52 | trh | when the user uses ktm together with threat |
| 22:50.54 | ckknight | just to piss him off |
| 22:51.14 | ckknight | well, it makes me want to do that, at least |
| 22:51.15 | trh | ckknight: would be a nice feature for acecomm ;) |
| 22:51.44 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42131 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua: |
| 22:51.44 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 22:51.44 | CIA-22 | -Fu: Add default text if friends and guild are both disabled. |
| 22:51.55 | Fin | what's the value of the yellowgoldishorange used in Fu |
| 22:51.58 | Fin | +Bar |
| 22:51.59 | Antiarc|Work | I'm trying really, really hard to avoid warfare, because that's bad for the users. |
| 22:51.59 | Fin | +? |
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| 22:52.03 | Fin | (please) |
| 22:52.23 | Fin | (the r, g, and b values is actually what I'm after... but I can figure it out if you just know a hex code or something) |
| 22:52.26 | mikma | "Now i'm getting blamed for problems in your code, hence this result." |
| 22:52.27 | mikma | lol |
| 22:52.33 | durcyn | Kemayo: sort the fubar, imo |
| 22:52.38 | mikma | he has stupid users then |
| 22:52.43 | durcyn | Kemayo: tooltip rather |
| 22:52.50 | harl|EFC | you could make a screenshot, then use gimp to get the values ;p |
| 22:53.00 | ckknight | all it is is this: if not AceLibrary:HasInstance("Threat-1.0") and _G.klhtm then SendAddonMessage("Thr", "", "RAID") end |
| 22:53.09 | liquiem | standards, we need standards, especially kenco and antiarc =) |
| 22:53.21 | ckknight | liquiem: that's not necessarily true |
| 22:53.32 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: you can't avoid warfare in the middle of an air raid! I say get your drama on |
| 22:53.33 | ckknight | all we need is a strong autocracy that everyone follows |
| 22:53.51 | ckknight | standards are a way of preventing innovation at times |
| 22:53.57 | Kirkburn | mikma, I want to know what type of problems he's talking about |
| 22:53.58 | hypetech | ckknight: did you just say "standards" in a fancy way? |
| 22:54.00 | ckknight | though they can be useful in some cases |
| 22:54.06 | pastamancer | ckknight: I read that as perverted innovation |
| 22:54.34 | ckknight | if you say "everything must have a standard", then nothing new can be created unless you think of a future-proof standard first |
| 22:54.37 | Kirkburn | Cause I can only imagine that the problems could be ... innaccurate threat? |
| 22:54.44 | ckknight | and once you start coding, your goals may change |
| 22:54.49 | mikma | Kirkburn: me too, that's why i had to tell him that his users are idiots |
| 22:54.55 | ckknight | or the standard might be bad in that case |
| 22:55.16 | ckknight | e.g. I'm going to make an RP addon soon |
| 22:55.17 | Fin | mikma: ignorance ~= idiocy |
| 22:55.24 | Fin | idioticy |
| 22:55.32 | ckknight | if I follow the standard that FlagRSP2 set, then the addon will be by nature, bloated |
| 22:55.33 | Fin | idiotness |
| 22:55.35 | hypetech | idioticy?.... |
| 22:55.37 | liquiem | ckknight, true, but i meant standard as some basic implementations for traffic exchange. how threat can send data to ktm and vice versa |
| 22:55.40 | hypetech | erm. |
| 22:55.44 | ckknight | instead, I'm going to do my stuff and just say "fuck em" |
| 22:55.55 | Kirkburn | mikma, so you did |
| 22:55.57 | Fin | toidi |
| 22:56.07 | Antiarc|Work | liquiem: That's all a protocol is |
| 22:56.07 | ckknight | liquiem: my argument still stands |
| 22:56.11 | liquiem | pretending to be anonter addon is really screwed, but recognizing the other addon and politly handle them is way better |
| 22:56.12 | Antiarc|Work | The current protocol (standard) is insufficient and needs to be amended. |
| 22:56.33 | Kirkburn | Present Kenco with a near fully fledged solution, and see how he reacts |
| 22:56.38 | Antiarc|Work | liquiem: If addon B provides compatibility with addon A and addon A provides no facility for recognizing compatible-but-not-self-addons, the protocol is insufficient. |
| 22:56.51 | Wobin | Kirkburn: "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" |
| 22:56.55 | Antiarc|Work | So there is little other choice. |
| 22:57.02 | Fin | it is?! |
| 22:57.15 | liquiem | and that is the sad part :/ |
| 22:57.23 | Kirkburn | (least I got chicken) |
| 22:57.25 | Wobin | Kirkburn: is it little? |
| 22:57.32 | Kirkburn | Could be. |
| 22:57.37 | Fin | (nobody know what code that goldorangeyellowy is? pretty please?) |
| 22:57.40 | Wobin | Should be =\ |
| 22:57.45 | Kirkburn | It seems to keep calling itself Zach Braff for some reason though |
| 22:57.57 | Wobin | Dasterdly |
| 22:58.10 | Fin | liquiem: I think it's pleasantly comforting that Kirkburn has fetched a chicken |
| 22:58.11 | Kirkburn | Quite mutterly, too |
| 22:58.41 | liquiem | fin, what? |
| 22:58.44 | Kirkburn | I think you forgot the Dick, Wobin |
| 22:58.50 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc|Work: Got a sec to help (again) with my armory page? |
| 22:58.50 | liquiem | hope it's crispy and well done |
| 22:58.53 | Fin | the chicken and him look very -- aha -- fetching together |
| 22:58.55 | Wobin | Snhsnhnsh |
| 22:58.56 | Antiarc|Work | Sure. |
| 22:59.00 | Fin | [01:04:10] ! Kirkburn fetches a chicken |
| 22:59.00 | Fin | [01:04:12] < liquiem> and that is the sad part :/ |
| 22:59.14 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe |
| 22:59.24 | liquiem | meh, lol /slap |
| 22:59.52 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc|Work: Let me pastey part of it to avoid spammage. |
| 22:59.58 | Fin | meh + lol + /slap == smlheap |
| 22:59.59 | trh | Antiarc|Work: just send Threat-r<number>,<ktmcompatible> inform him about what you answer and let him show invalid =) - i don't think discussing it further yields anything :) |
| 23:00.14 | harl|EFC | Fin: i think it's FF D1 00 |
| 23:00.25 | Fin | harl|EFC: thank you! much obliged, sir or madam |
| 23:01.06 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42132 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: |
| 23:01.06 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:01.06 | CIA-22 | -Race : koKR Update |
| 23:01.34 | BankZ | Does ClosetGnome remember if the helm should be shown or hidden based on ooutfit? |
| 23:01.46 | vhaarr | BankZ: I made it do that at some point, but had to revert. |
| 23:01.49 | vhaarr | too many people didn't like it |
| 23:01.56 | vhaarr | so I'll have to readd it in another way |
| 23:02.07 | Wobin | ... |
| 23:02.09 | Wobin | okay. |
| 23:02.15 | BankZ | ok :( |
| 23:02.22 | Wobin | So Kenco is complaining that Threat is sending a 'faked KTM version' |
| 23:02.28 | Wobin | ? |
| 23:02.35 | BankZ | what about disabling outfits in Arenas? |
| 23:02.46 | Wobin | But says if you send any random number above 100, he'll accept it? |
| 23:02.51 | ckknight | Wobin: yep. |
| 23:02.56 | Wobin | ... |
| 23:02.57 | vhaarr | BankZ: it doesn't have to do that, closetgnome can't do any autoequipping for you anyway |
| 23:03.02 | ckknight | clearly, math.random(100, 1e9) is the best thing to send |
| 23:03.04 | trh | Wobin: and with trying to detect it breaking real version responses from real ktm users that use threat additonally :) |
| 23:03.18 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42133 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Another PW:S fix. |
| 23:04.01 | NightHawkAtWork | So, does anyone want to start a pool on what fascinating way Kenco will make an ass of himself next? :P |
| 23:04.19 | hypetech | so are KTM and Threat-1.0 not compatible at the moment anymore? |
| 23:04.19 | Kemayo | Fin: The goldish-orange in the gametooltip for notes is r=1,g=0.5,b=0. |
| 23:04.49 | Awaa | Kaelten, is it possible to show keyrings in OneView ? |
| 23:04.50 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc|Work: Here's the pastey on my create_sig.php error: http://pastey.net/70021 |
| 23:05.02 | Kaelten | Awaa: hrm not sure iff I save keyrings or not |
| 23:05.04 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: They are, save for version queries. |
| 23:05.04 | Kemayo | Fin: Assuming you were asking me, of course. You used my module name. :) |
| 23:05.17 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: cool |
| 23:05.41 | xt | Antiarc|Work: our MT still stops updating from time to time lol |
| 23:05.42 | BankZ | vhaarr: Well, I mean GnomeCloset_Switcher |
| 23:05.47 | Kemayo | durcyn: Sorting is planned -- I just implemented most of this last night, and felt a strong need to go to bed before I got to that. |
| 23:05.47 | xt | might there be some other mod interfering? |
| 23:05.54 | Wobin | hm. |
| 23:05.59 | BankZ | vhaarr: I would like to disable some stances in the arenas |
| 23:06.07 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think that'd be it. Hrm. |
| 23:06.07 | trh | damn.. i'm such an idiot.. tried to boil water for 10 minutes, wondering why it doesnt start to boil.... forgot to turn the plate on the stove on |
| 23:06.15 | hypetech | trh: rofl |
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| 23:06.55 | durcyn | Kemayo: oh, well, carry on then. |
| 23:06.55 | Antiarc|Work | DesertDwarf: Error 12 means that MySQL has exhausted its maximum allowed memory allocation |
| 23:06.56 | Fin | Kemayo: I did? I asked a few times about the colour, harl replied with what I just tried, and seems to look right (1, 0.81, 0) - but thanks! I will try 1, 0.5, 0 (when did I use your module name?) |
| 23:07.00 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:07.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:07.03 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: good deal. :) |
| 23:07.08 | Antiarc|Work | System config problem. |
| 23:07.21 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc|Work: Aha! Thanks. |
| 23:07.24 | Antiarc|Work | every notice you guys send pops up a query for me |
| 23:07.27 | Antiarc|Work | I hate you all. >:( |
| 23:07.27 | ckknight | bah |
| 23:07.30 | DesertDwarf | trh: http://www.ehow.com/how_2295_boil-water.html |
| 23:07.37 | Kaydeethree | then yell at your irc client? |
| 23:07.39 | [Liq] | Antiarc|Work, same :( |
| 23:07.43 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: At least you didn't turn the stove on, and forget about the pot for the next hour and a half, only to find a burnt, blackened, and superheated pan awaiting you |
| 23:07.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Very lol indeed |
| 23:07.55 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: did that too already ;) |
| 23:07.56 | [Liq] | Your notices interrupt my gaming experience... gah |
| 23:07.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: your client sucks :P |
| 23:07.59 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: it smelled very bad |
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| 23:08.09 | Antiarc|Work | It's gaim :( |
| 23:08.11 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: tell me about it. >< I ruined a non-stick pot that way. |
| 23:08.26 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: I stick to stainless steel cookware these days. >.> |
| 23:08.29 | hypetech | DesertDwarf: "You might be tempted to use water that's already warm or hot from the tap, but this water has been sitting in your pipes for some time, getting stale. Use cold water if you're going to drink it or cook with it." |
| 23:08.29 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc|Work: Try pidgin? (http://pidgin.im) |
| 23:08.38 | Fin | DesertDwarf++ |
| 23:08.43 | hypetech | that doesn't make much sense considering boiling the water gets rid of the bacteria anyhow |
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| 23:08.51 | NightHawkAtWork | pidgin is gaim. *shrug* |
| 23:08.51 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: i wish i had some cast iron pans, not that teflon stuff |
| 23:08.53 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r42134 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: |
| 23:08.53 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 23:08.53 | CIA-22 | - should be ready for buffs from items and weaopn buffs, that have yet to be written. |
| 23:09.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Why would cold water have not been sitting in the pipes for some time, getting stale? |
| 23:09.13 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: lol, cast iron would be hella expensive. |
| 23:09.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42135 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai - fixes. |
| 23:09.24 | hypetech | Kirkburn|afk: no idea |
| 23:09.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, I guess the coldness would retard the reaction rates for bacteria |
| 23:10.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Kirkburn|afk: at a guess, hot water comes from your hot water tank, and so is "sitting around" in your plumbing system for longer. while cold water just gets pulled in from wherever water comes from |
| 23:10.20 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: yeah.. my mom got one from like 20 years ago.. stuff you do with it just tastes better |
| 23:10.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Also what NightHawkAtWork said. |
| 23:10.36 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: guess the heat distribution is better or something |
| 23:10.37 | Kemayo | Fin: I guess that "Fu" wasn't the most original module name. >_> |
| 23:10.38 | *** part/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:10.49 | hypetech | trh: so, stuff that you do with your mom tastes better? |
| 23:10.49 | Kirkburn|afk | But it sounded so much cooler to just question the entire premise of the comment :( |
| 23:10.50 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r42136 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: frFR Update |
| 23:10.59 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: *nod* it really is. Iron spreads the heat out better, and stays at a consistent temperature for longer. |
| 23:11.21 | Kirkburn|afk | No, no! Use lead! |
| 23:11.27 | winkiller | Kirkburn|afk: arrrg.. cowtip. |
| 23:11.30 | DesertDwarf | Mmm...lead! |
| 23:11.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Lead is good for the bowels. |
| 23:11.32 | NightHawkAtWork | ... I prefer not dying, but okay |
| 23:11.37 | winkiller | Guild: <lysithea's minion> |
| 23:11.44 | ckknight | winkiller: lol, yea. |
| 23:11.53 | ckknight | ah, what do you expect? |
| 23:11.59 | hypetech | what is cowtip? |
| 23:12.06 | ckknight | hypetech: my tooltip mod |
| 23:12.09 | NeoTron | Ah this is the cooking channel now? :) |
| 23:12.12 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: no damn idea |
| 23:12.15 | NightHawkAtWork | I should make an alt guild called <[main character]s Minion> |
| 23:12.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Kirkburn|afk, sigh |
| 23:12.19 | Stephmw | NeoTron: Kenco's the main dish.. |
| 23:12.26 | Kaelten | NeoTron: ya my next addon will be MonkeyBrains |
| 23:12.27 | Kirkburn|afk | He's tasteh |
| 23:12.28 | hypetech | ~seen ckknight |
| 23:12.41 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (5m 41s) #norganna (5m 41s) #wowace (5m 41s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 29s, last said: 'Kirkburn|afk: no damn idea'. |
| 23:12.41 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: we could totally talk about cooking if you'd like. We have before :P |
| 23:12.42 | ckknight | hypetech: dude, I just pinged you. |
| 23:12.42 | hypetech | huh? |
| 23:12.51 | Kirkburn|afk | purl, now YOU pinged me |
| 23:12.55 | ckknight | <ckknight> hypetech: my tooltip mod |
| 23:12.58 | NeoTron | I was just reading the past page oro so about hot/cold water and the benefit of cast iron cookware :) |
| 23:13.01 | Kirkburn|afk | ~~~~~ |
| 23:13.01 | purl | grrrr |
| 23:13.04 | hypetech | ckknight: oh, I know |
| 23:13.06 | ckknight | ~~~~~~ |
| 23:13.07 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots ckknight in the head three times. |
| 23:13.15 | ckknight | hypetech: then why did you do ~seen ckknight? |
| 23:13.16 | hypetech | ckknight: I was just trying ~seen :) |
| 23:13.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Escalation! |
| 23:13.23 | ckknight | bah |
| 23:13.28 | Kirkburn|afk | humbug |
| 23:13.32 | NightHawkAtWork | ~~~~~~~ |
| 23:13.33 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat nighthawkatwork. |
| 23:13.33 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:13.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42137 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 23:13.34 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Threat-1.0 now supports a user agent in REQUEST_CLIENT_INFO and |
| 23:13.34 | CIA-22 | CLIENT_INFO. Version comparisons are only done against native user agents; |
| 23:13.34 | CIA-22 | foreign agents are reported, but not used for out-of-date notices. User agents |
| 23:13.34 | CIA-22 | may be most any string. Versions may be any string, though native Threat-1.0 |
| 23:13.35 | CIA-22 | versions should be integers for the purposes of version comparison and upgrade |
| 23:13.37 | CIA-22 | notices. |
| 23:13.37 | hypetech | wow |
| 23:13.44 | Kaydeethree | I wonder.... |
| 23:13.46 | Kirkburn|afk | CIA joins in the spam, woo |
| 23:13.47 | Chompers | ~seen Chompers |
| 23:13.48 | purl | chompers is currently on #wowace (10h 5m 15s) #wowwiki (10h 5m 15s). Has said a total of 48 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Chompers'. |
| 23:13.48 | Kaydeethree | ~seen Kaydeethree |
| 23:13.49 | purl | kaydeethree is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 13h 27m 2s) #wowace (1d 13h 27m 2s) #wowwiki (1d 13h 27m 2s). Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Kaydeethree'. |
| 23:13.50 | Kaydeethree | haha |
| 23:13.50 | liquiem | wall of text |
| 23:14.10 | Chompers | damnit, it doesn't show me in #WizardhatCyber |
| 23:14.16 | durcyn | you people make my brain hurt |
| 23:14.17 | Chompers | my joke has been ruined |
| 23:14.30 | hypetech | purl, die |
| 23:14.30 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 23:14.45 | hypetech | ooo. double tap. I like. |
| 23:14.47 | NightHawkAtWork | oh my god, you killed purl! you bastard! |
| 23:14.58 | hypetech | purl, live |
| 23:14.59 | purl | ACTION rises from the dead and starts eating people. |
| 23:15.06 | NightHawkAtWork | ... |
| 23:15.08 | hypetech | :) |
| 23:15.14 | Wobin | ~botsnack |
| 23:15.14 | purl | Wobin: :) |
| 23:15.20 | PProvost | Anyone have a developer working copy of AuldLangSyne on their machine? |
| 23:15.27 | Kirkburn|afk | durcyn, sorry, you don't want me hammering nails into your head? |
| 23:15.30 | Wobin | developer working? |
| 23:15.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Working? Developer? |
| 23:15.39 | PProvost | One you can edit and checkin. :) |
| 23:15.46 | PProvost | An SVN WC |
| 23:15.48 | Wobin | hehe Kemayo might! |
| 23:15.52 | NightHawkAtWork | developers don't work. we just bum around in irc all day |
| 23:15.52 | hypetech | Kirkburn|afk: I don't think those 2 words belong together. |
| 23:15.55 | durcyn | yeah, PProvost, but you might try kemayo first |
| 23:16.17 | Kemayo | PProvost: I certainly do. :P |
| 23:16.28 | Fin | Kemayo: ah! |
| 23:16.35 | PProvost | embeds.xml says "libs" but the folder is "lib" |
| 23:16.39 | PProvost | Whoops |
| 23:16.41 | hypetech | same thing |
| 23:16.42 | hypetech | :) |
| 23:16.44 | hypetech | technicality |
| 23:16.52 | Fin | Kemayo: what's "Fu" (in reference to your addon, before someone makes the obvious and painful joke) |
| 23:16.56 | PProvost | Doesn't work if you don't have another addon with the missing dependency |
| 23:17.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Has to be said, #wizardhatcyber was disturbing, but I look forward to our next time Chompers |
| 23:17.08 | Gagorian | Get following msg when trying to hide drdamage Fubar entry: |
| 23:17.09 | Gagorian | ...\libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:539: AceDB-2.0: Cannot call "ToggleActive" before "RegisterDB" has been called and before "ADDON_LOADED" has been fired. |
| 23:17.24 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42138 10AuldLangSyne/embeds.xml: AuldLangSyne: embeds.xml "libs"->"lib". |
| 23:17.26 | Gagorian | Can anyone help with that? I can't reproduce it |
| 23:17.28 | hypetech | put ToggleActive farther down |
| 23:17.29 | hypetech | :) |
| 23:17.32 | PProvost | ty Kemayo |
| 23:17.39 | Kemayo | Pfft, I care not for your puny embedded concerns! |
| 23:17.43 | PProvost | haha |
| 23:17.50 | Gagorian | hypetech: Err should've added quotes. It's not my error, and I can't reproduce it |
| 23:17.59 | PProvost | I got sick of fixing my WC, but didn't want to mess w/ ur stuff without asking first. :) |
| 23:18.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42139 10Omen/OmenMenu.lua: Omen: Play warning sounds when you select a new one. |
| 23:18.25 | Kemayo | Fin: "Fu" is the name of the "FuBar" module for ALS... because it turns into "AuldLangSyne_Fu" if you unpackage the modules. :D |
| 23:18.35 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: w00t |
| 23:18.41 | Fin | Kemayo: thanks |
| 23:18.44 | Kemayo | Hm, I got overzealous with my "quotes" there. |
| 23:19.04 | Fin | [01:23:41] < hypetech> technicality |
| 23:19.05 | Fin | yeah! |
| 23:19.11 | Wobin | "You" "think"? |
| 23:19.21 | Fin | they're both *words*, how pedantic can you get |
| 23:19.52 | Fin | I don't know about "overzealous" but I can definitely "see" your eyebrows doing a little "dance" there |
| 23:20.04 | Fin | mmm? |
| 23:20.10 | harl|EFC | "mmm" |
| 23:20.16 | harl|EFC | *purr* |
| 23:20.35 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42140 10DrDamage/Data/Druid.lua: |
| 23:20.35 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 23:20.35 | CIA-22 | - Typo fix in druid module |
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| 23:21.16 | hypetech | 0.o |
| 23:21.17 | hypetech | wth |
| 23:21.44 | durcyn | ckknight: when (un)ticking dewdrop options, the tooltip resets to default position, then back. thoughts? |
| 23:22.02 | durcyn | with cowtip, that is |
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| 23:22.51 | Fin | well, fuck me sideways, I've actually managed to get this tooltip stuff working |
| 23:23.06 | hypetech | EnhTooltip ftl |
| 23:23.24 | hypetech | I wish I wasn't addicted to Auctioneer :( |
| 23:23.31 | hypetech | I need a 12 step program |
| 23:24.02 | ckknight | durcyn: what options? |
| 23:24.19 | ckknight | hypetech: EnhTooltip has nothing to do with CowTip |
| 23:24.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Antiarc|Work, play warning sounds when you select a new ... what? |
| 23:24.33 | Antiarc|Work | Warning sound. |
| 23:24.38 | Antiarc|Work | From a list. |
| 23:24.45 | Kirkburn|afk | aha |
| 23:24.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Funky |
| 23:24.55 | hypetech | would old LUA files in my SV from mods I haven't used in ages cause any decrease in load time or performance if the mod isn't installed anymore? |
| 23:24.56 | Antiarc|Work | The warnings are awesome, FYI |
| 23:25.22 | Fin | thank you ckknight, Cryect, Thrae, harl|EFC, Tem, Ominous, and Kemalo |
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| 23:25.46 | harl|EFC | what what? |
| 23:25.58 | Fin | not in that order and sorry for whatever I've done wrong |
| 23:25.59 | Fin | helping |
| 23:26.10 | harl|EFC | i'm innocent. |
| 23:26.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Could you add some that say "Kenco Pat", "Kenco Inc", "Kenco aggro, wipe control" |
| 23:26.36 | Fin | hypetech: yes |
| 23:27.02 | Kirkburn|afk | I worry that this channel is going to start appearing on the google results for "Kenco" |
| 23:27.05 | hypetech | Fin: how? |
| 23:27.22 | Fin | hypetech: I'm about 90% sure of this - but I've tested with Filemon, and every file under the root installation folder of World of Warcraft gets opened, as far as I can tell |
| 23:27.35 | hypetech | 0.o |
| 23:27.43 | hypetech | jesus |
| 23:27.45 | durcyn | ckknight: any dewdrop, near as i can tell. tested with expo and auldlangsyne toggling options. |
| 23:27.53 | Stephmw | Fin: sounds about right, Warden in action perhaps? |
| 23:27.59 | Fin | I know that at least all the SavedVariables files do, and the test server install files if you have them |
| 23:28.26 | hypetech | Fin: when do they get opened? |
| 23:28.26 | Fin | Stephmw: Warden or just Blizzard being crap (it's been known to happen); or I'm wrong |
| 23:28.37 | Fin | hypetech: on load or UI reload |
| 23:28.42 | hypetech | Fin: ew |
| 23:28.49 | Fin | that's about right |
| 23:28.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Would the file's size/type matter to the length of time? |
| 23:29.03 | hypetech | Fin: time for an overhaul |
| 23:29.14 | hypetech | Fin: I still have crap from my first mod install (cosmos) |
| 23:29.18 | Antiarc|Work | http://wowace.com/trac/ticket/1187 <-- thoughts? |
| 23:29.19 | Fin | I don't know how much of the file is read in, but I can see them being opened |
| 23:29.36 | Fin | http://www.sysinternals.com/ <-- get Filemon from here if you want to see for yourself |
| 23:29.38 | hypetech | Fin: even if they are being touched, that's too much disk r/w for me to like |
| 23:29.44 | trh | if you pulled aggro, omen should play a simpsons line, it was like "i'm so SMART! S-M-R-T" ;) |
| 23:29.50 | Fin | regardless, 0000s of files being opened is a waste of time |
| 23:29.55 | Fin | hypetech: yeah, me too |
| 23:29.55 | Antiarc|Work | That's more of a Banzai kind of thing |
| 23:30.58 | Kirkburn|afk | trh, or "That's unpossible!" |
| 23:31.08 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: lol |
| 23:31.22 | hypetech | took me forever to figure out wtf was whispering "fatality" in my ear for the last 2 months :( |
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| 23:32.36 | trh | omg.. i know the best quote for aggro-gain ever, it's out of futurama: "This concludes the part of the tour where you stay alive. " =) |
| 23:32.43 | Antiarc|Work | Hah |
| 23:32.50 | Antiarc|Work | http://wowace.com/trac/ticket/1147 <-- best ticket ever |
| 23:33.10 | trh | Antiarc|Work: lol |
| 23:33.26 | hypetech | rofl |
| 23:33.41 | Codayus | Translation: Please stop fixing so many bugs? Oo |
| 23:33.47 | Codayus | I blame Microsoft. |
| 23:34.17 | Antiarc|Work | "Change the version number you are reporting from a lie to something half-useful and this won't be an issue." |
| 23:34.18 | Antiarc|Work | Guys |
| 23:34.32 | Antiarc|Work | AFK, renaming Threat-1.0 to Liar-1.0 |
| 23:34.41 | DesertDwarf | Hehe |
| 23:34.57 | Codayus | I admit to some confusion over what he hopes to accomplish. :-/ |
| 23:35.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Call it version 2.0 to complete the lie |
| 23:35.16 | trh | or stable..muahahaha ;) |
| 23:35.21 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 23:35.38 | Antiarc|Work | Codayus: nobody knows what he wants to accomplish. |
| 23:35.48 | Codayus | Well. |
| 23:35.51 | trh | Antiarc|Work: i do |
| 23:35.54 | trh | Antiarc|Work: bitchin' |
| 23:36.03 | Codayus | Actually, I assume what he wants to accomplish is to have KTM be the only threat meter. |
| 23:36.10 | Codayus | What I don't understand is how he things this is *helping*. |
| 23:36.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42141 10CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip_Appearance - add option to color neutral NPCs. |
| 23:36.40 | Codayus | His attitude alone in the last few posts has probably caused more than one GM to decide on mandating Threat over KTM the second it goes stable... |
| 23:36.52 | trh | ckknight: damn those neutrals... you never know where you stand with them :P |
| 23:36.52 | Kirkburn|afk | GM? :O |
| 23:36.54 | Codayus | Well, GM/addon person |
| 23:37.02 | Kaydeethree | I've pointed my GM at the thread... I'm the guild's addon person |
| 23:37.03 | ckknight | what turns a man from good to neutral? |
| 23:37.12 | Codayus | I'm both for my guild. <shrug> |
| 23:37.16 | ckknight | power? lust for gold? or was your heart born full of neutrality. |
| 23:38.01 | ckknight | ~neutral |
| 23:38.12 | Fin | ckknight: reputation penalties |
| 23:38.18 | ckknight | ~neutrality |
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| 23:38.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Neutral Planet: Where everything is grey, the official motto is "Live free or don't", and the ruler of the planet has "no strong feelings one way or the other". When Zapp Brannigan attempted to attack the planet in "Brannigan Begin Again", a "beige alert" was issued, and the leader of the neutral planet said "If I don't survive, tell my wife 'Hello'". |
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| 23:38.53 | Fin | trh: awesome quote |
| 23:39.02 | ckknight | purl, neutrality is <reply>What turns a man from good to neutral? power? lust for gold? or was your heart born full of neutrality? |
| 23:39.04 | purl | okay, ckknight |
| 23:39.24 | Fin | Thrae: how's TinyTipCore lookin? :D |
| 23:39.52 | NightHawkAtWork | that was a great episode.. >.> |
| 23:40.08 | Wobin | Kenco: "Aha! I've caught you out, Threat! I SEE WHUT YOU DID THAR!" Antiarc: "Well yes, that's what we had to do in order to be compatible. How about we use a USER_AGENT instead so we can determine where mislaid messages may be from?" Kenco: "AHAR I SEE WHUT YOU DID THAR! SPOOF!" Antiarc: "Yes, but what about using a more stan.." Kenco: "AHAR I SEE WHUT YOU DID THAR!" |
| 23:40.39 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:40.52 | Josh_Borke | nn kirk |
| 23:41.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | :) night all! |
| 23:41.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Kirkburn|sleep: night. don't die. |
| 23:41.35 | Gagorian | When was this Donate option added to each fubarplugin dewdrop? |
| 23:42.00 | NightHawkAtWork | when ckknight realized he was running out of play time :P |
| 23:42.04 | trh | Wobin: you should add that to the ktm comments with the title: "a short summary of the last comments" ;) |
| 23:42.21 | ckknight | Gagorian: yep, that's my doing. |
| 23:42.30 | ckknight | Gagorian: I also updated the about thing as well |
| 23:42.34 | Wobin | I may very well if he doesn't respond to the actual subject topic request soon =P |
| 23:43.11 | Fin | ~armory |
| 23:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | rofl wob |
| 23:44.28 | Gagorian | ckknight: Ok. Was a bit surprised though, cause it says give a donation to the author of this addon which is easily interpreted as the author of the addon the plugin is for. |
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| 23:44.35 | Gagorian | Maybe a clarification is in order? |
| 23:44.44 | ckknight | Gagorian: um, that's what it is |
| 23:44.54 | hyperChipmunk | does he really talk that way? |
| 23:45.12 | *** part/#wowace DesertDwarf (n=Ric_Fisc@ip72-208-136-247.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:45.21 | ckknight | Gagorian: it's not to the author of Dewdrop or whatever, it's to the addon you're currently looking at |
| 23:45.30 | ckknight | as long as they supply an X-Donate field |
| 23:45.43 | ckknight | if they don't, it just reverts to donating to wowace |
| 23:45.51 | trh | ckknight: is there a google checkout option yet? =) |
| 23:45.57 | ckknight | trh: for what? |
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| 23:46.27 | trh | ckknight: donations - https://checkout.google.com/sell |
| 23:46.51 | Wobin | "Buy a donation"? |
| 23:46.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42142 10CowTip/Position/Position.lua: CowTip_Position - no longer mess with fading. |
| 23:47.04 | ckknight | trh: oh, neat. I could add the option. |
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| 23:47.08 | Wobin | You'd have to offer denominations though? |
| 23:47.21 | Gagorian | ckknight: Well, just the part that the default donation i.e. wowace could be confused with donating to the author with the current wording. |
| 23:47.23 | Wobin | "buy $5 WowaceDollarz" |
| 23:47.30 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:47.54 | Wobin | ckknight: I agree with Gagorian. It shouldn't show up if the x-donate field is empty |
| 23:48.33 | ckknight | you don't want people to donate to wowace? |
| 23:48.35 | Gagorian | I don't mind donations going to wowace for my addon, just make sure the user isn't getting the impression he's donating to me |
| 23:48.42 | Dhraga | pastamancer, are you there atm ? |
| 23:48.55 | hyperChipmunk | I think it's pretty obvious from the website, though |
| 23:48.59 | hyperChipmunk | it's a generic link |
| 23:49.08 | Wobin | oh I'm fine with people donating to wowace |
| 23:49.10 | Gagorian | So, the wording could say by default.. That help this author by donating to the Ace2 community instead of to the author of this addon. |
| 23:49.21 | Wobin | ^ |
| 23:49.26 | ckknight | okay, I'll change the wording a bit |
| 23:50.00 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net/70022 <-- feedback please. |
| 23:50.54 | ckknight | "Give a much-needed donation to the wowace community, which will help all authors, not just the one who made this addon." |
| 23:50.57 | ckknight | thoughts? |
| 23:51.19 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: precedence, not precedent (second para) |
| 23:51.25 | ckknight | err, first |
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| 23:51.37 | AnduinLothar | how do the donations actually get used? |
| 23:51.52 | Wobin | Antiarc|Work: \O/ |
| 23:51.53 | hyperChipmunk | precedent is valid |
| 23:52.01 | Wobin | Much better worded than my skit |
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| 23:52.27 | hyperChipmunk | i'd remove the 'gibberish' from the last sentense and just say that it 'would help no one.' |
| 23:52.27 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: when donated to wowace, it goes back into the website |
| 23:52.28 | trh | Antiarc|Work: good read... buti doubt kenco will change anything |
| 23:52.31 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk is correct |
| 23:52.39 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: if instead you donate to an author, it is at the author's discretion |
| 23:52.44 | Antiarc|Work | He won't; this is for other people reading it. |
| 23:53.00 | Wobin | It's gone beyond that now =P |
| 23:53.10 | AnduinLothar | does wowace.com have a proxy for donating to authors? |
| 23:53.15 | Gagorian | ckknight: ".. which will not only help the author of this addon, but the entire wowace community." |
| 23:53.17 | hyperChipmunk | if they donate to me, I promise to use the money to buy me pizza |
| 23:53.20 | Wobin | We see that Kenco will never acknowledge any suggestions |
| 23:53.28 | AnduinLothar | or do authors have to set up their own donation site/link |
| 23:53.37 | Kaelten | hrm the second |
| 23:53.38 | Wobin | AL: I suspect we have to set up our own |
| 23:53.41 | trh | AnduinLothar: own paypal email |
| 23:53.50 | Kaelten | I could work on doing a proxy if thats a desirable thing |
| 23:53.59 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think you need much more than an email for paypal |
| 23:54.01 | Wobin | Routing it through wowace would be administratively complex |
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| 23:54.15 | hyperChipmunk | but i'd appreciate it if there was something better that kael could do |
| 23:54.21 | hyperChipmunk | I don't use it now |
| 23:54.38 | Wobin | We'd still have to register an account with Wowace then |
| 23:54.42 | hyperChipmunk | but I do want people to send me money so i can eat |
| 23:54.44 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahaha |
| 23:54.45 | Antiarc|Work | Oh man |
| 23:54.48 | Antiarc|Work | I just had the best idea |
| 23:54.50 | Wobin | which would probably involve a paypal account |
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| 23:55.00 | Kaydeethree | hm? |
| 23:55.04 | Antiarc|Work | So you take "Threat-1.0 r12345" and you convert it to an integer equivalent |
| 23:55.07 | Antiarc|Work | And then send that as the version |
| 23:55.18 | Wobin | rofl |
| 23:55.23 | Kaydeethree | heh. not like it'd do the end-users any good |
| 23:55.25 | Kaelten | Wobin: I could work up a system where I could send checks... maybe. |
| 23:55.27 | Kaydeethree | but still, funny |
| 23:55.29 | Antiarc|Work | No, but it would be hilarious. |
| 23:55.30 | durcyn | write it all out in binary |
| 23:55.31 | Wobin | "Why is my KTM version 9823479128347912719237129348712043912847192834"? |
| 23:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 23:55.43 | ckknight | Wobin: KTM's broken |
| 23:55.46 | ckknight | switch to Omen |
| 23:55.49 | ckknight | clearly. |
| 23:55.55 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: do that |
| 23:56.00 | hyperChipmunk | seriously, do that |
| 23:56.04 | Wobin | Kaelten: I don't think that's really in the scope of the server tbh |
| 23:56.12 | hyperChipmunk | especially if it shows up to the user somewhere |
| 23:56.24 | Kaelten | ya not really, maybe as a long term idea |
| 23:56.26 | Wobin | Kaelten: That just leads to accounting and legal issues |
| 23:56.28 | hyperChipmunk | and goes halfway across their screen |
| 23:56.29 | Kaelten | somewhere further down the line. |
| 23:56.43 | Wobin | You don't particularly want to be responsible for the money flow direct to the author |
| 23:56.48 | Kaelten | Wobin: only thing that comes to mind is that some people may want to use it as a protection to privacy |
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| 23:56.58 | Wobin | Kaelten: Paypal should do that |
| 23:57.04 | kebinusan | http://chuckie.free.fr/pics/20070614/1181663909846.jpg lol wow |
| 23:57.08 | Kaelten | ya |
| 23:57.10 | Wobin | They just create a new paypal under a different email |
| 23:57.13 | NightHawkAtWork | Paypal and a random gmail account can take care ofany kind of anonymity |
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| 23:57.29 | Gagorian | kebinusan :D |
| 23:57.29 | Kaelten | its a moot issue atm there are many more pressing projects for me to take care of. |
| 23:57.31 | AnduinLothar | I would say have it say "Show your support by donating to this author or wowace.com" and then have it link to a wowace page ?author=userid that has links for donating to the author's registered paypal email or the wowace site. |
| 23:57.31 | Wobin | kebinusan: rofl that's horrible |
| 23:57.38 | NightHawkAtWork | I kinda agree with Wobin, dealing with financial transactions is a massive headache that should probably be avoided :P |
| 23:57.58 | Antiarc|Work | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_273326 |
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| 23:58.26 | Kaelten | AnduinLothar: also a possibility in the long run |
| 23:59.03 | trh | kebinusan: pretty impiously.. ;) |
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| 23:59.55 | hyperChipmunk | AnduinLothar's idea would be great |
