| 00:00.44 | cynyr | Antiarc|Work: can't you setup svn over ssh or something to that effect? |
| 00:00.58 | Antiarc|Work | SVN access is limited, but anyone can request an account |
| 00:01.21 | Antiarc|Work | The problem isn't keeping people out - it's keeping bad content out |
| 00:01.38 | Antiarc|Work | Given wowace's popularity, I suspect it's only a matter of time till it becomes a target. |
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| 00:01.51 | Antiarc|Work | Better to be proactive about it, I guess. |
| 00:02.01 | Lywellyn | Maybe set it up so that it checks the new commit vs. the old one, and if it has changed significantly, flag it for authorization? |
| 00:02.07 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41706 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Fix GetCurrentGroupDistribution (always returns at least 'PARTY' now, since the player is always grouped with himself). |
| 00:05.34 | cynyr | Antiarc|Work: hmm maybe a 2 tier system? trusted and sort of trusted? and let the trusted check and move the content across? |
| 00:07.21 | vodrin | remove the bats =x |
| 00:07.30 | vodrin | work around that ? |
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| 00:12.11 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41707 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: add mind control alerts |
| 00:13.53 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: In theory, a testing/stable flagging system should help with that, I'd think. |
| 00:15.24 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41708 10BigWigs/ (14 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: tweaks |
| 00:16.11 | JoshBorke | here's one: files is only generated from the tags directories. only the addon author can tag a version of his or her addon. anyone can commit changes to the trunk of the addon but only the author can be responsible for moving it to tags. obviously if the author goes MIA, those in charge of SVN can make the executive decision to transfer responsibility to a new person. |
| 00:16.12 | Lywellyn | Is there an addon that allows you to create action bars on the fly (not your normal 1-10 bars)? |
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| 00:21.43 | Kalman| | JoshBorke: That or, if svn supports ACL-type permissions, group authors into core/trusted/untrusted and assign ACLs appropriately, which might be a bit less annoying for someone like Antiarc who has half a hundred people he trusts working on Threat but who'd still want to guard against abuse. |
| 00:21.54 | Antiarc | Hahah |
| 00:21.57 | Antiarc | Also, I'm home |
| 00:24.04 | Ominous | new arena gear == teer 5, dosent it? |
| 00:24.04 | sbu | right |
| 00:24.04 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: revert your self.enabled change to CustomBar, please |
| 00:24.04 | abyssichate | Some candytaste opinion - how does http://wallen.ngi.it/misc/wow/btintro.wmv look? Is the guild logo even fairly readable? |
| 00:24.13 | sbu | hm its fine? |
| 00:24.35 | vrak | say, what do i add to get bulkmail to send uncut gems? |
| 00:24.57 | hyperChipmunk | tradeskill.gems.cut |
| 00:24.59 | hyperChipmunk | don't ask |
| 00:25.03 | hyperChipmunk | just use it =P |
| 00:25.13 | vrak | -.- |
| 00:25.25 | vrak | ok |
| 00:25.37 | hyperChipmunk | if you find out the person responsible for that particular pt3 set, club him for me |
| 00:25.53 | vrak | i'll certainly LART him a bit for you |
| 00:25.55 | vrak | and for myself |
| 00:26.04 | hyperChipmunk | thx |
| 00:30.05 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41709 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: BigWigs: oops, fix my previous commit |
| 00:31.44 | Chompers | awesome, 2 more people using CowTip |
| 00:31.46 | JoshBorke | Cryect: you here? |
| 00:33.52 | vrak | hyperChipmunk: btw, BuilkMail > * |
| 00:34.15 | kaiden | vrak, ass kissing will get you everywhere ;) |
| 00:34.24 | kaiden | especially into the chipmunks pants |
| 00:34.44 | Chompers | quite nutty |
| 00:34.49 | vrak | hehe |
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| 00:34.52 | Chompers | i hear |
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| 00:35.22 | kaiden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40 << hc's theme video |
| 00:35.28 | kaiden | granted it's not a chipmunk.. but close enough |
| 00:37.12 | vrak | hehe |
| 00:44.11 | NeoTron | so on fathomlord.. I assume there's a good reason to kill the adds before fathomlord? haven't gotten theer yet but just curious |
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| 00:46.41 | Antiarc | ckknight: Ping |
| 00:46.45 | Antiarc | Oh, wait |
| 00:48.17 | alb | What's the /script command to print out the name of the frame you mouseover? |
| 00:48.17 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.21 | Antiarc | ok, ckknight: Ping |
| 00:48.36 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41710 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: add Reliquary of Souls module |
| 00:48.55 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: That may not be necessary if I get my updates working tonight :) |
| 00:49.56 | alb | Thanks Antiarc |
| 00:50.51 | Antiarc | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/66836 |
| 00:52.17 | Kody- | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/8266/ Is that someone actually working on the updater? |
| 00:52.41 | vhaarr | that should be removed |
| 00:52.57 | Kody- | K deleting it |
| 00:53.43 | Hjalte | Is there anything i can do to make Cowtip not colour the tooltips of dead units so light? |
| 00:53.45 | Antiarc | There's no reason to put WAU on Curse or whatever |
| 00:54.10 | vhaarr | Antiarc: That doesn't mean Kody- should remove any WAU uploaded on curse, he is right to ask. |
| 00:54.22 | Antiarc | Oh, I agree |
| 00:54.46 | nymbia | Hjalte: change the color for dead stuff? |
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| 00:55.08 | Mikk | At least on the general principle that you shouldn't accept executables from joe random dude |
| 00:55.19 | Mikk | And why did he feel it necessary to repack it as rar? o.O |
| 00:55.20 | Andune | what good mods are there for keeping track of multiple healers in a RAID? ie. we have 3 healers and I want to know when other heals are INC so I can avoid healing the same targets |
| 00:55.21 | Hjalte | nymbia, well, when i kill a mob, and then hover my mouse over it, the tooltip is very white-ish |
| 00:55.32 | Andune | I know HealBot has it built-in, but I'm not a fan of HealBot. |
| 00:55.48 | Andune | and X-Perl has a cool window that monitor all spells being cast by players in RAID, but I'm a PitBull user |
| 00:55.53 | vhaarr | I really enjoy the WoW bug where a /console reloadui suddenly takes a whole 10 minutes to complete for no reason, and disconnects you. |
| 00:56.02 | vhaarr | Where the bar doesn't even move at all. |
| 00:56.10 | Mikk | i've never ever had that happen |
| 00:56.17 | Mikk | must be some addon you've got that's screwing you over |
| 00:56.21 | vhaarr | I don't think so. |
| 00:56.42 | Mikk | and i'm reloading as much as the next dev |
| 00:57.05 | vhaarr | I can't imagine it being an addon, since it has been happening since at least 1.12, quite randomly. |
| 00:57.17 | vhaarr | I reload a lot, and it's really, really seldom that it happens. |
| 00:57.32 | vhaarr | not even one in a hundred, I'd say |
| 00:57.47 | Mikk | Graphics barfout or something silly like that? |
| 00:57.51 | vhaarr | could be |
| 00:58.00 | nymbia | Hjalte: what i meant is that there's an option to change the color for dead stuff. |
| 00:58.04 | Antiarc | I've never seen that happen, vhaarr |
| 00:58.05 | vhaarr | it's really fucking annoying, that's what I know |
| 00:58.26 | vhaarr | -totally- destroys your work flow |
| 00:58.26 | Hjalte | nymbia, ah, i see! Thanks. |
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| 00:59.58 | durcyn | Antiarc: omen is resetting to bottomleft on reloadui, do i need to clobber savedvars or somesuch? |
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| 01:00.11 | Antiarc | durcyn: You're up to date? |
| 01:00.18 | Antiarc | I added code that should have fixed that :/ |
| 01:00.28 | vhaarr | Mikk: could be a WINE thing |
| 01:00.31 | vhaarr | but still |
| 01:00.37 | durcyn | thought i was, let me check |
| 01:00.45 | Mikk | oh, running under wine even |
| 01:00.46 | vhaarr | I really doubt it |
| 01:00.51 | Mikk | yeah i'd blame wine if so :> |
| 01:01.03 | vhaarr | since I've been happily reloading my UI 10 times the last 5 minutes |
| 01:01.09 | vhaarr | and then just *BAM* |
| 01:01.10 | durcyn | Antiarc: 41232? |
| 01:01.17 | Kody- | [17:55] <Mikk> At least on the general principle that you shouldn't accept executables from joe random dude - Yeah I'm trying to find out who accepted it right now, we have a process for accepting exe files now so there's no excuse for it getting by |
| 01:01.18 | Antiarc | Sounds right |
| 01:01.26 | Antiarc | Try nuking your SVs, see if that fixes it |
| 01:01.29 | vhaarr | Kody-: that's good |
| 01:01.29 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.02 | durcyn | will check it after this boss fight |
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| 01:05.58 | mikma | what kind of mp5 trackers there are? |
| 01:13.22 | durcyn | Antiarc: no dice. |
| 01:13.37 | Antiarc | Hrm |
| 01:14.37 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41711 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 01:14.37 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 01:14.37 | CIA-22 | - Add standard AceDB profile support. Old settings will be imported to per-char profile if present. (Once, obviously) |
| 01:14.37 | CIA-22 | - Windows displaying a disabled/nonexistant module will now stay tuned to that module and grayed out, not jump to some other module |
| 01:14.38 | CIA-22 | - Show/Hide all windows will no longer change configuration settings. Action is simply: |
| 01:14.42 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.44 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:17.34 | kergoth | db.profile ftw |
| 01:17.45 | Mikk | indeed |
| 01:17.51 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r41712 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: KingOfTheJungle : - Don't query for pet name if pet does not exist |
| 01:20.24 | kebinusan | anyone ever have your frame rate just bottom out standing around near lurker below |
| 01:20.31 | kebinusan | like our entire raids fps just dropped to 1 |
| 01:20.56 | Mikk | .. |
| 01:21.01 | Mikk | joy? |
| 01:21.29 | Antiarc | kebinusan: Are you guys using Omen? |
| 01:21.33 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 01:21.37 | Antiarc | If so, see if turning off KTM support does it |
| 01:21.40 | Antiarc | Turn off Publish to KTM |
| 01:21.43 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r41713 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CoilfangReservoir/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: Threat-1.0: Updated translation koKR |
| 01:21.53 | kebinusan | k |
| 01:22.07 | Antiarc | I've had a really weird recursive loop show up where threat starts publishing to its own KTM support |
| 01:22.13 | Antiarc | I can't reproduce it though |
| 01:22.48 | kebinusan | k I shall have them |
| 01:22.48 | Antiarc | If you want to verify - |
| 01:22.56 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.01 | Antiarc | Then /run ChatFrame5:Show() |
| 01:23.07 | Antiarc | And look for an assload of debug spam |
| 01:23.15 | kebinusan | k I'll give it a go I just had to kill wow, I couldnt do anything |
| 01:24.04 | Antiarc | eep |
| 01:25.58 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41714 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 01:25.58 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 01:25.58 | CIA-22 | - Make it close all windows on disable |
| 01:25.58 | CIA-22 | - Make it obey db.showWindows on enable |
| 01:26.11 | kebinusan | yeah my frame rate is very low Im trying to verify |
| 01:27.23 | Antiarc | Just run those two commands and see if there's spam |
| 01:27.24 | Antiarc | Also |
| 01:27.27 | Antiarc | Try dropping raid |
| 01:27.30 | Antiarc | And see if that fixes it |
| 01:27.38 | Antiarc | Then turn on the debug commands and rejoin the raid |
| 01:28.35 | kebinusan | yeah Im raid lead going to have someone invite my alt to the raid and check for you |
| 01:29.43 | kebinusan | yeah its threatlib |
| 01:29.46 | Antiarc | Dammit. |
| 01:29.52 | Antiarc | Are you all up to date? |
| 01:29.56 | kebinusan | it seems like its looping between loading the vashj and leo modules |
| 01:30.01 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 01:30.02 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 01:30.03 | Antiarc | What's it saying? |
| 01:30.15 | kebinusan | activated vasj, activated leo |
| 01:30.16 | kebinusan | over and over |
| 01:30.25 | Antiarc | Ok, awesome. Thank you. I will get it fixed up super-pronto. |
| 01:30.35 | kebinusan | eatLib-Debug: Activated Leotheras the Blind module |
| 01:30.35 | kebinusan | ThreatLib-Debug: Activated Lady Vashj module |
| 01:30.35 | kebinusan | ThreatLib-Debug: Activated Leotheras the Blind module |
| 01:30.35 | kebinusan | ThreatLib-Debug: Activated Lady Vashj module |
| 01:30.35 | kebinusan | ThreatLib-Debug: Activated Leotheras the Blind module |
| 01:30.35 | Antiarc | Thank you so much for the analysis. |
| 01:30.36 | kebinusan | ThreatLib-Debug: Activated Lady Vashj module |
| 01:30.38 | kebinusan | ThreatLib-Debug: Activated Leotheras the Blind module |
| 01:30.40 | kebinusan | ThreatLib-Debug: Activated Lady Vashj module |
| 01:30.42 | kebinusan | like that |
| 01:30.46 | Antiarc | Ick ick ick. |
| 01:31.04 | Antiarc | Are they physically close to each other? |
| 01:31.04 | Litvan | ok.. I'm impressed... for a guy that has NO knowledge at all about addon programming... I've actually managed to c/p my way through an addon to have it display enchanting mats instead of flowers... riddled with bugs in some places (one can't fix it all with just replacing stuff) but the general stuff works :) |
| 01:32.11 | winkiller | lol |
| 01:33.04 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: no |
| 01:33.14 | kebinusan | Does Ace2 still load libraries even if they are disabled on teh addon menu, I remember it used to if some other mod did |
| 01:33.14 | Antiarc | Ok. Thanks. |
| 01:33.30 | Antiarc | If the libs are embedded, yes |
| 01:33.40 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.50 | KarlThePagan | phyber, ping |
| 01:33.52 | Antiarc | Sorry about that :( |
| 01:33.57 | Antiarc | But on the other hand, yay that you found it. |
| 01:34.43 | kebinusan | yeah, exactly |
| 01:35.56 | Antiarc | I'll bet it's the raidwide module synch activate that's doing it |
| 01:36.40 | kebinusan | probably, we werent fighting anything |
| 01:36.56 | kebinusan | just standing around buffing and then bam half the raid is like umm.. my fps dropped to 1 |
| 01:37.21 | Ordog | zomg, found myself reading http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/apocalypse.html ! gotta go to bed! gn8 |
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| 01:41.03 | Antiarc | Oh geez, my raid module synch code is naieve. |
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| 01:45.08 | Funkeh` | get ktm, its much better! |
| 01:45.09 | abyssichate | Is anyone else having problems in CowTip with [Zone]? (latest revision) |
| 01:45.29 | Mikk | In other news, AceDB needs a "Delete profile" |
| 01:46.14 | CIA-22 | 03aldmehr * r41715 10ReadySpells/ (Core.lua Readme.txt ReadySpells.toc): ReadySpells: v0.73, Fixed a bug where the swing activation image was ungreying when it shouldn't due to server latency and key mashing. |
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| 01:48.50 | kebinusan | Antiarc just steal the code from bigwigs hehe |
| 01:49.10 | vhaarr | or, you know, ask people |
| 01:49.19 | Antiarc | kebinusan: The issue is that I was triggering net synchs on an incoming net synch |
| 01:49.22 | vhaarr | since we've written the code, we can probably explain it |
| 01:49.30 | Antiarc | Which isn't a problem if you just have one module activating |
| 01:49.39 | kebinusan | ah |
| 01:49.49 | Antiarc | But if you can have two raid members mouse over two module triggers at roughly the same time, loop time. |
| 01:50.02 | Antiarc | It's simple enough to fix |
| 01:50.10 | Antiarc | Just send net synchs if the activation was local |
| 01:50.18 | Antiarc | Dead-end if it's not. |
| 01:50.19 | pastamancer | all the cool kids steal code from bigwigs |
| 01:50.28 | kebinusan | heh |
| 01:50.37 | vhaarr | I ninja code from there all the time |
| 01:50.39 | kebinusan | antiarc yeah sounds like a pretty rare condtion |
| 01:50.47 | Antiarc | Very rare, but very possible. |
| 01:50.49 | Antiarc | I think I've got it fixed |
| 01:51.02 | Antiarc | And as a bonus, a very nice fix for bosses that have spawns mid-fight |
| 01:51.26 | Antiarc | Testing now and will check in as soon as I'm sure it won't break anything |
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| 01:58.54 | Kody- | We just opened up the Curse v4 beta to site users, any authors interested in giving feedback on the addon db layout etc? |
| 01:59.10 | Kody- | If so just shoot me a PM and I'll get you set up with beta access |
| 02:01.25 | Wobwork | what sort of changes ahve you? |
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| 02:02.41 | Litvan | question |
| 02:02.47 | Eyes-t | is something wrong with the new wowaceupdater? |
| 02:02.47 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41716 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount.toc Tracker.lua): Recount - By default now only tracks data while in combat which is either when a player in your group is in combat or when someone in your group deals damage to a nonfriendly target |
| 02:03.22 | Cryect | I hope its more V1 or V2 looking |
| 02:03.44 | Antiarc | Nellenya suffers 1080 Nature damage from your Deadly Poison VII <--- wtb that all the time |
| 02:04.03 | Cryect | V3 confuses the hell out of me when I'm looking for something |
| 02:04.12 | Cryect | haah Antiarc |
| 02:04.44 | Litvan | the function .hasIcon = "Interface\\Icons\\xxxx"; |
| 02:04.44 | Litvan | if I want to use the icon that's used for the enchanting tradeskill.. what do I write instead of xxxx ? |
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| 02:07.03 | Antiarc | Nellenya's Improved Leader of the Pack heals Nellenya for 11794 |
| 02:07.09 | Antiarc | Suck it, holy paladins. |
| 02:07.13 | Wobwork | >, |
| 02:07.15 | Wobwork | >< |
| 02:07.26 | Litvan | ?? |
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| 02:07.55 | duaiwe | o_0 |
| 02:07.58 | duaiwe | dammit |
| 02:14.04 | Cryect | wth does Nellenya have on her/him? |
| 02:14.38 | JoshBorke | Cryect: ! |
| 02:14.47 | JoshBorke | you play on my server :-) |
| 02:14.56 | JoshBorke | perhaps you've heard of my guild: Forgotten Souls |
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| 02:19.02 | ulic | I don't remember a guild named that, must have forgotten them. |
| 02:19.35 | Cryect | Haha sorry no JoshBorke |
| 02:19.47 | Cryect | I know like no one out of guild practically |
| 02:19.59 | Cryect | since a server transfer |
| 02:20.13 | Cryect | All I know is damn horde aren't at halaa almost ever |
| 02:20.21 | Cryect | was great though getting 60 tokens in 30 minutes the other day |
| 02:20.28 | Cryect | then like 0 since then |
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| 02:21.03 | Litvan | the function .hasIcon = "Interface\\Icons\\xxxx"; |
| 02:21.07 | Litvan | if I want to use the icon that's used for the enchanting tradeskill.. what do I write instead of xxxx ? |
| 02:21.15 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41717 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua: Recount - Few bug fixes involving the damage mode |
| 02:21.19 | JoshBorke | cryect: bah, you're one of those |
| 02:21.22 | JoshBorke | server transfer |
| 02:21.29 | JoshBorke | nvm then :-P |
| 02:21.34 | JoshBorke | i sent you an in game mail though |
| 02:21.57 | Cryect | Used to be on Dunemaul |
| 02:22.05 | JoshBorke | grrr. 2 songs left on medium to get 5 star in GH2 |
| 02:22.06 | Cryect | which is like dead since everyone transferred off of it |
| 02:22.14 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 02:22.20 | JoshBorke | psychobilly freakout and freebird |
| 02:24.54 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41718 10AuraToChat/ (. AuraToChat.lua AuraToChat.toc libs/): |
| 02:24.54 | CIA-22 | AuraToChat: Initial import, prints "$aura on $unit." to chat for configured |
| 02:24.54 | CIA-22 | auras (buffs only atm). Colors each aura according to a sequentially generated |
| 02:24.54 | CIA-22 | list of colors starting from a configured base color, for easy and fast |
| 02:24.54 | CIA-22 | recognition. |
| 02:24.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Lady Vashj down! |
| 02:25.04 | vithos | grats |
| 02:25.23 | vithos | wiping on lurker below :( |
| 02:26.03 | Peoii | ZealotOnAStick: Grats! We had our first kill last night. I LOVE that fight |
| 02:26.14 | vithos | is there a way to make Grid say "Ghost" instead of DEAD for released people? |
| 02:26.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Phase 3 was cake. P2 is rough. |
| 02:26.37 | Peoii | P3 is only horrible after the "Enrage" ;) |
| 02:26.52 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r41719 10InFlight_Load/ (. Defaults.lua InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc): |
| 02:26.52 | CIA-22 | InFlight_Load |
| 02:26.52 | CIA-22 | - moved externals to InFlight |
| 02:26.52 | CIA-22 | - reduced some memory usage |
| 02:26.59 | Peoii | ie: the whole ground is covered in green crap |
| 02:29.06 | Cryect | yeah |
| 02:29.07 | vhaarr | Peoii: I fixed the AceComm bug you reported |
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| 02:32.46 | Peoii | vhaarr: nice, thanks mate |
| 02:32.51 | ZealotOnAStick | P3 = dps race, which my guild is very good at. |
| 02:33.18 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r41720 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.lua: simpleMinimap: Fix expandedFrame. |
| 02:33.24 | ZealotOnAStick | we killed her at about 20 seconde before the "enrage" timer |
| 02:33.29 | Lywellyn | Is there anyone here that can tell me why ReagentFu and PTReagentFu kinda stink? It's like one breaks, and the other works, then the other breaks, and the first one works. >< |
| 02:34.20 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 02:36.07 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: what's wrong with PTReagentFu? |
| 02:36.27 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: I'm using it without problems |
| 02:36.51 | Lywellyn | Not all the reagents for my mage are selectable. Currently, I can only choose Rune of Teleportation, Arcane Powder, and Light Feather. Some are missing (Rune of Portals and Manastone?) |
| 02:37.00 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: hrm |
| 02:37.33 | Lywellyn | It's like that a lot. Sporadically, reagents will go missing in both addons. Then later on (probably after updates to Periodic Table), they reappear. |
| 02:37.44 | Lywellyn | I'm concerned with it now because I'm about to get to level 40: Mage's level for portals. :D |
| 02:37.57 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: it should have 4 reagents for mages |
| 02:38.02 | vhaarr | ["Reagent.Class.Mage"]="d4s,d53,d54,d5s", |
| 02:38.09 | vhaarr | maybe nymbia knows more |
| 02:38.16 | Lywellyn | Is Manastone not a reagent? |
| 02:38.42 | vhaarr | it also tracks Consumable.Mage.Mana Stone for mages |
| 02:39.10 | Lywellyn | ah. just wondering, because I don't use 'em yet, for whatever they're used for. |
| 02:39.21 | nymbia | lets see |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r41721 10InFlight/ (. Defaults.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc embeds.xml): |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-22 | InFlight: |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-22 | - added option to change the "To" text, which is the text that currently displays "-->" |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-22 | - use embeds.xml for externals |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-22 | - updated base flight time defaults, which will only affect fresh variables |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-22 | - use "pass" value in the options table to reduce some entries |
| 02:39.40 | CIA-22 | - removed some externals and handled more locally, which increased overall performance |
| 02:39.40 | nymbia | dont think those are autogenerated, so it may very well be off |
| 02:39.49 | vhaarr | right |
| 02:40.10 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: basically, FuBar_PTReagentFu just presents what PeriodicTable-3.0 has to offer for your class |
| 02:40.10 | Lywellyn | I would like to keep PTReagentFu, more reason for me to keep Periodic Table around. :p |
| 02:40.21 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: so anything missing needs to be reported to nymbia |
| 02:40.39 | Litvan | isn't manastone a conjured item? |
| 02:40.46 | vhaarr | I think it is |
| 02:40.52 | vhaarr | but I track that as well for mages |
| 02:41.03 | Litvan | btw.. have a question |
| 02:41.17 | Litvan | the function .hasIcon = "Interface\\Icons\\xxxx"; (fubar) |
| 02:41.21 | Litvan | if I want to use the icon that's used for the enchanting tradeskill.. what do I write instead of xxxx ? |
| 02:41.23 | vhaarr | Litvan: we can't say |
| 02:41.23 | nymbia | rune of portals is in there |
| 02:41.28 | Litvan | meh |
| 02:41.31 | nymbia | ["Reagent.Class.Mage"]= "17020,17031,17032,17056" |
| 02:41.36 | nymbia | it's 17032 |
| 02:42.16 | vhaarr | Litvan: thottbots icons use the same name as the wow ones |
| 02:42.21 | vhaarr | Litvan: for all spells |
| 02:42.44 | vhaarr | http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Spell_Shadow_ShadowMend.jpg |
| 02:42.47 | Litvan | so I just copy the enchanting icon from there and add it to my folder? |
| 02:42.48 | Lywellyn | I can't imagine that items would ever be removed if they're still in-game...and that's what PTReagentFu will do: Randomly remove certain reagents from the selection menu, only to re-add them later. |
| 02:42.53 | vhaarr | = "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_ShadowMend" |
| 02:43.07 | vhaarr | so you browse to the spell using Firefox |
| 02:43.11 | vhaarr | right-click the icon |
| 02:43.15 | vhaarr | and do "Show background image" |
| 02:43.40 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: it will only do that if the server hasn't seen the item |
| 02:43.50 | vhaarr | Lywellyn: which should be fixed by opening your bags and relogging |
| 02:44.23 | Lywellyn | Oh okay. |
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| 02:48.07 | Industrial | I demand to be voiced. |
| 02:50.11 | JoshBorke | Cryect: how does imp do DKP? |
| 02:50.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Industrial] by vhaarr |
| 02:51.07 | Industrial | thanks. |
| 02:51.08 | Lywellyn | whoa, that works? |
| 02:51.14 | Lywellyn | um....I demand to be voiced. ....? |
| 02:51.33 | vhaarr | sorry, it only works if you're dutch |
| 02:51.42 | Lywellyn | Damn. |
| 02:51.43 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.35 | Arrowmaster | so any suggestions on what boss to go after in SSC after hydross? |
| 02:52.52 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: either lurker or morogrim, I'd say |
| 02:53.02 | vhaarr | or if you have the fire res, leotheras is also easy |
| 02:53.48 | Arrowmaster | spent 2 days now wiping on morogrim |
| 02:54.12 | vhaarr | well he was even nerfed in the last patch |
| 02:55.30 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: leotheras imo |
| 02:55.57 | Arrowmaster | bah i dont want to respec soullink and spend 100 badges on fr gear |
| 02:56.10 | vhaarr | well you can have a warrior in FR tank him as well |
| 02:56.39 | vhaarr | if one of your warriors already have decent FR, which is often the case |
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| 03:00.05 | Litvan | got it.... |
| 03:00.12 | Litvan | enchanting icon is called engraving |
| 03:00.23 | Litvan | makes no sence though |
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| 03:00.38 | vhaarr | blizzard icon names *rarely* do |
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| 03:00.48 | Litvan | you can say that again |
| 03:01.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 03:01.58 | Litvan | so now "my" addon works.. except for 1 thing... but that one will never be something I'll add to it :) |
| 03:02.01 | Industrial | cladhaire: we're equal now :D |
| 03:02.17 | cladhaire | sure my voice won't be boycotted |
| 03:02.21 | cladhaire | and i'mdone. |
| 03:02.58 | Industrial | ill just need to pressure kaelten to autovoice me |
| 03:03.01 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 03:04.47 | Lywellyn | Is there still trouble with the [Zone] tag in CowTip? |
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| 03:06.36 | Litvan | btw vhaarr.. I've "made" this addon now (it works fine..) that tracks what enchanting mats you have (fubar addon) would it be a major pain to eg. have some sort of filtering function for it? atm it's tracking and displaying enchanting mats on ALL chars I enable the addon for.. but all I want is for it to display only what my enchanting alt has in bags/bank.. and filter out the rest of my chars |
| 03:06.39 | Thorgard | Anyone see any problems with this DogTag line in CowTip: [IsPlayer?Faction:Trunc(1)!Faction][IsPlayer?Text( -)] [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green!Yellow][Guild] ? |
| 03:07.11 | durcyn | Thorgard: yeah, it makes my head hurt |
| 03:07.28 | Thorgard | ;) Mission accomplished! |
| 03:08.23 | Thorgard | Well, it's throwing errors when I mouse-over people in my party that are out of range. |
| 03:08.52 | GuR|Heckondor | hi, is there any way to make a macro with any spell and than 2 times ToggleAutoRun(); |
| 03:09.39 | *** part/#wowace Industrial (n=tom@a80-100-243-86.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 03:10.43 | Kaydeethree | movement functions have been fully protected since 1.10. only blizzard code is allowed to call ToggleAutoRun or other similar commands |
| 03:10.59 | Kaydeethree | if you're just trying to cancel a spellcast, /stopcasting is the command |
| 03:11.19 | GuR|Heckondor | i want a macro for no cast animation ;) |
| 03:11.40 | GuR|Heckondor | is it possible to let macros push other keys ? ^^ |
| 03:11.47 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 03:11.48 | Kaydeethree | can't help you there. unless we evoke an emote with an animation, there's no way we can control the animation our characters display |
| 03:12.00 | Kaydeethree | just buttons on your hotbars. you can't macro movement, though |
| 03:12.23 | Thorgard | WB, ckknight |
| 03:12.28 | ckknight | Thorgard: if it's throwing errors, there's clearly a bug. |
| 03:12.38 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:12.38 | Thorgard | DogTag-1.0.41680: Error with code "[IsPlayer?Faction:Trunc(1)!Faction][IsPlayer?Text( -)] [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Guild]" on "party2". [string "local DogTag = AceLibrary("DogTag-1.0");loc..."]:4: attempt to index local 'value' (a nil value): |
| 03:12.42 | Thorgard | Oops |
| 03:12.44 | Thorgard | Too late. ;P |
| 03:13.25 | GuR|Heckondor | and how can i make such macros with my hotbars ? |
| 03:14.06 | Kaydeethree | to do what, click on another button? "/click NameOfButton" |
| 03:14.33 | Thorgard | ckknight, you want the full stack? |
| 03:15.10 | ckknight | Thorgard: yea |
| 03:16.04 | Kaydeethree | you can get the name of the button you wish to click with the macro /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage("You are hovering over frame: " .. GetMouseFocus():GetName()) |
| 03:16.26 | ckknight | Kaydeethree: /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() works just as well :-P |
| 03:16.41 | Kaydeethree | not if that guy doesn't have an ace mod installed |
| 03:17.04 | ckknight | ...we're in #wowace. |
| 03:17.07 | Antiarc | ckknight: See my DogTag error report(s)? |
| 03:17.11 | ckknight | Antiarc: yea |
| 03:17.18 | ckknight | I need to take a shower, though |
| 03:17.24 | Kaydeethree | I directed him here from #wowwiki |
| 03:17.38 | Kaydeethree | anyway, food |
| 03:17.49 | Antiarc | ckknight: Happens when I mouse over a hostile mob |
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| 03:18.04 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 03:18.12 | GuR|Heckondor | "/click NameOfButton" <- what have i to insert ? ^^ |
| 03:18.14 | ckknight | I guess that I didn't take hostile mobs into consideration. |
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| 03:18.23 | ckknight | need to do that. |
| 03:18.28 | ckknight | since some mobs don't have factions |
| 03:19.03 | k_d3|food | gur: scroll up a bit. my last "/run ChatFrame1:..." line will tell you what button you're hovering over with your mouse cursor |
| 03:19.12 | Antiarc | ckknight: The wolves outside of Shattrath cause it quite nicely :) |
| 03:19.19 | ckknight | (clearly, they were ostracized for being a little "limp-wristed", and can't join their true faction due to not being able to adhere to the don't ask, don't tell policies) |
| 03:21.20 | GuR|Heckondor | ah thx ;) |
| 03:22.20 | Litvan | ckknight |
| 03:27.45 | GuR|Heckondor | is a macro like this possible ? /castsequence reset=15 click PallyPowerSAB1, click PallyPowerSAB2 ? |
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| 03:28.45 | k_d3|food | no. castsequence is only for spells |
| 03:29.01 | GuR|Heckondor | okay and is there any other way ? |
| 03:29.07 | GuR|Heckondor | like /clicksequence ? |
| 03:29.09 | GuR|Heckondor | ^^ |
| 03:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 03:29.13 | k_d3|food | if only... |
| 03:29.45 | Litvan | wasn't that what blizz nuked with the 2.01 patch? |
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| 03:30.12 | Kaydeethree | nah. they fixed the fallthrough-/click exploit |
| 03:30.54 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:31.13 | Kaydeethree | s/cast/attempt to cast/ |
| 03:31.20 | Kaydeethree | ... |
| 03:31.34 | GuR|Heckondor | okay |
| 03:32.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaydeethree: purls substitution isn't the most robust, it just finds the first instance. :P |
| 03:33.03 | Kaydeethree | which is my fault, should've been more specific in my sed string |
| 03:33.13 | Kaydeethree | real sed's the same way |
| 03:33.17 | Litvan | I still remember so many rogues complaining about not being able to use that addon AutoRogue anymore when you couldn't just mash your BS button and it would pop SnD after 3(or 4) combo-points.. and when you had 5 combo-points it would eviscerate automatically and repeat it.. while keeping SnD up at all times |
| 03:33.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 03:33.40 | NightHawkTheSane | although i think sed accepts some modifiers and special chars, purl doesn't, i believe. |
| 03:34.20 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, autorogue was great for farming while watching tv ;) |
| 03:35.33 | Kinkx | Is there any way to be able to mash one button to drink a health pot + healthstone? |
| 03:35.56 | Kinkx | /castsequence right? |
| 03:35.59 | Kaydeethree | neither of those are on the GCD, a simple fallthrough will work |
| 03:36.01 | Litvan | yeah... MC/BWL was basically: "login.. join raid.. get a summon... apply poisons.. get buffs... turn on tv... move behind mob... mash backstab while watching tv... run to next mob... backstab while watching tv" |
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| 03:36.13 | Kaydeethree | or you could /csq if you don't want to use both at the same time |
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| 03:36.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I think just a straight up chain of /uses will work for that. |
| 03:37.26 | Litvan | I was thinking that too... /use Super Healing Potion /use Health Stone |
| 03:38.04 | Kaydeethree | that will use both at the same time if they're both up, so be careful with that. I've just got them on separate keybinds |
| 03:38.07 | Kinkx | Yea, I was just thinking of an addon that would make a /castsequence <best healthstone/pot> to <worst healthstone/pot>, depending on what you have.. kind of like how Autobar used to work |
| 03:38.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think you could do that. |
| 03:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | For in-combat use, your best option is probably something like autorack |
| 03:38.49 | durcyn | you can't change buttons or binds in combat lockdown |
| 03:39.23 | Litvan | wonder when ckknight is done with his shower... |
| 03:39.25 | Kinkx | So if the first /csq argument fails, the whole thing fails? |
| 03:39.43 | Kaydeethree | yup. it'll keep trying to recast it until it successfully casts |
| 03:39.54 | Kinkx | Meh, I'll just make two bindings then :) |
| 03:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Kinkx: it'll keep trying to cast whichever part of the chain it's on until it successfully passes it |
| 03:39.58 | Kinkx | Thanks |
| 03:40.32 | Litvan | I thought csq = 1 cast frost bolt 2 = cast frost nova ect ect ect.. and it would do 1 step at the chain per keypress |
| 03:40.39 | Arrowmaster | holy fuck 7 nether vortex from trash mobs in 1 day |
| 03:40.53 | Thorgard | Arrowmaster, marry me! |
| 03:41.09 | ckknight | back |
| 03:41.14 | Litvan | wb |
| 03:41.15 | ckknight | Litvan: I like long showers |
| 03:41.21 | Kaydeethree | lit; that's correct. however, if a spell's on cooldown, say you get to frostnova before it comes back up, it'll stall there until it can recast |
| 03:41.34 | Thrae | ckknight: Have you ever been to EFNet? |
| 03:42.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: no one goes to efnet if they can help it :P |
| 03:42.12 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 03:42.13 | Thrae | Too much time on EFNet perverses my brain. |
| 03:42.18 | NightHawkTheSane | same with dalnet |
| 03:42.29 | Kaydeethree | bah. I remember dal pre-ddos days |
| 03:42.36 | vhaarr | dal/efnet ftl |
| 03:42.57 | vhaarr | undernet is bearable, though |
| 03:43.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I actually like sorcery.net, but i swear their servers/services are more unstable than a windows os. |
| 03:43.11 | Thrae | Pre-EFNet, "I take long showers" means "I take long showers". But now, it could be any of possible 146 sexual innuendos, mostly about gay sex. |
| 03:43.50 | Thrae | I was just talking on EFNet so...I'll try not to comment on anything anyone says, out of respect. |
| 03:44.16 | Litvan | in terms of fun on efnet I love bash.org |
| 03:44.28 | Litvan | not all from efnet.. but still |
| 03:45.02 | Kaydeethree | meh. I wonder if my quotes from an alternate persona are still up on bash |
| 03:45.23 | Litvan | my fav is still the one about the biology class |
| 03:46.12 | Litvan | http://bash.org/?50891 |
| 03:46.31 | ckknight | Thrae: yea, I have, a while ago, mostly to download porn |
| 03:46.34 | Litvan | old but brilliant |
| 03:47.31 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit, linking bash should be bannable. |
| 03:47.39 | NightHawkTheSane | now i'm not going to get anything done for like 2 hours. |
| 03:47.40 | hyperChipmunk | yeo, I was just about to say that |
| 03:47.47 | Kaydeethree | a quote from the 50ks? old? |
| 03:47.49 | Litvan | lmao |
| 03:48.05 | hyperChipmunk | we need to implement some sort of policy about linking bash |
| 03:48.10 | Kaydeethree | old quotes are in the 100s... |
| 03:48.28 | GuR|Heckondor | is there any function for rightclicks in macros ? |
| 03:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaydeethree: eh, the joke itself is old, if not the quote :P |
| 03:48.45 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 03:49.27 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: like...don't? |
| 03:49.35 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 03:49.38 | hyperChipmunk | that's a good one |
| 03:50.11 | Kaydeethree | meh. I'm in wikipedia linkspam mode atm... ~20 tabs open. I'll worry about bash/?random1 later |
| 03:50.15 | Thrae | GuR|Heckondor: To detect a right-click, [modifier:button2] should do it |
| 03:50.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, fortunately i'm 1/3 through an episode of heroes, so ill keep watching that. |
| 03:51.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41722 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - [Faction] can return nil as well as string |
| 03:51.38 | Kaydeethree | http://xkcd.com/c214.html |
| 03:51.44 | Kaydeethree | annoying how I have that url memorized |
| 03:52.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 03:55.48 | ZealotOnAStick | aaaand Al'ar down as well. 2 first kills for the guild tonight, Vashj and Al'ar. |
| 03:55.56 | NightHawkTheSane | grats |
| 03:56.03 | JoshBorke | ZealotOnAStick: grats |
| 03:56.21 | Lywellyn | Would anyone know why my Bank window using Baudbag would simply disappear? |
| 03:58.44 | NightHawkTheSane | because you touch yourself at night |
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| 03:59.05 | Lywellyn | .....How would it know that?! |
| 03:59.18 | NightHawkTheSane | it sees all, knows all. |
| 03:59.18 | abyssichate | ckknight: you didn't notice anything wrong with [Zone] then? |
| 03:59.53 | Lywellyn | abyssichate: I did. I put "Zone:" on the left and "[Zone]" on the right, and the line didn't appear when I mouseover'd a party member. |
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| 04:01.05 | abyssichate | Yeah, I noticed the same. It shouldn't appear if the unit you mouseover is in the same zone as you - fact is that it doesn't ever show and if it does, it's totally wrong (it shows YOUR location instead) |
| 04:01.51 | abyssichate | I am also having issues with backgrounds being coloured as "Other" instead of Guild/Friendly, which means that the health bar will not show up either |
| 04:02.23 | Lywellyn | My party member wasn't in the same zone as me though. I was in Undercity, and they were in Stranglethorn Vale. |
| 04:02.38 | abyssichate | Yeah, something like that, it will not show for some reason |
| 04:02.43 | xyu` | Anyone decent w/ macro making? what macro could i use to cast counterspell on my focus target if one exists? |
| 04:03.01 | abyssichate | /cast [target=focus]Counterspell |
| 04:03.06 | xyu` | thanks |
| 04:06.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd adjust that to [target=focus,exists,nodead] |
| 04:09.21 | NightHawkTheSane | could even toss a harm in there too, if you wanted |
| 04:10.11 | Antiarc | Hey ckknight |
| 04:10.20 | Litvan | he's dead :) |
| 04:10.23 | Antiarc | :( |
| 04:10.42 | Kaydeethree | harm/help/dead all imply exists, though |
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| 04:12.19 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, does harm neccessarily imply nodead? |
| 04:12.32 | kenlyric | I don't think so. |
| 04:12.46 | Kaydeethree | no. dead enemies still return true for [harm] |
| 04:12.57 | kenlyric | I mean, I'd hope it would, but every macro I see has a test for nodead and a test for harm. |
| 04:12.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i see |
| 04:13.55 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41723 10AuraToChat/ (AuraToChat.lua AuraToChat.toc libs/): |
| 04:13.55 | CIA-22 | AuraToChat: |
| 04:13.55 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.55 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:15.04 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: whats that do? |
| 04:15.11 | vhaarr | simple |
| 04:15.38 | vhaarr | Prints "$aura on $unit." to chat for configured auras. Colors each aura according to a sequentially generated list of colors starting from a configured base color, for easy and fast recognition. |
| 04:16.06 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, neat. Will that work for totems? |
| 04:16.13 | vhaarr | it works for all auras |
| 04:16.21 | vhaarr | afaik |
| 04:16.21 | NightHawkTheSane | neat. |
| 04:16.31 | vhaarr | more specifically, anything SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 gives you |
| 04:17.02 | pastamancer | vhaarr: what do you think about having SEEA scan all auras on P_E_W... I seem to misss stuff when I zone every now and then |
| 04:17.14 | pastamancer | I've made the change locally |
| 04:17.14 | vhaarr | pastamancer: well that's the old problem, isn't it |
| 04:17.30 | vhaarr | pastamancer: some people claim that blizzard fires all the required aura events |
| 04:17.35 | vhaarr | so we shouldn't have to rescan |
| 04:17.38 | pastamancer | I got into SEEA relatively late |
| 04:17.45 | pastamancer | and it's definitely missing stuff when I zone |
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| 04:18.04 | vhaarr | pastamancer: I think I first changed it to not rescan, then you changed it to scan again, and then something bugged so we changed it back to NOT scanning again |
| 04:18.05 | vhaarr | I'm not sure |
| 04:18.13 | vhaarr | but this issue upsets me |
| 04:18.54 | vhaarr | pastamancer: I'm more concerned with the fact that SEEA seems to fire two and even 3 events for the same aura sometimes |
| 04:19.01 | pastamancer | hum |
| 04:19.10 | pastamancer | it shouldn't |
| 04:19.15 | vhaarr | indeed it should not |
| 04:19.16 | vhaarr | but it does |
| 04:19.29 | pastamancer | name + texture + rank = unique buff |
| 04:20.03 | pastamancer | and it's not like we have to worry about the cache being inconsistent... it's not multi-threaded |
| 04:20.05 | vhaarr | that's why I added that debug stuff with source |
| 04:20.10 | vhaarr | I know |
| 04:20.35 | vhaarr | get in a raid group with AuraToChat and a have a hunter use misdirection |
| 04:20.45 | vhaarr | sometimes it prints 1x buff per player (hunter + target) |
| 04:20.50 | vhaarr | but other times it prints 2, and even 3 |
| 04:20.54 | vhaarr | for the target |
| 04:21.01 | vhaarr | always just 1 for the hunter, though |
| 04:21.03 | vhaarr | I don't understand |
| 04:21.10 | pastamancer | oh, well, it does it by unit |
| 04:21.24 | pastamancer | so party2 and raid20 and focus and target |
| 04:21.24 | durcyn | i've noticed that with BigBrother as well |
| 04:21.27 | vhaarr | so you're saying I get it by raid, party and target? |
| 04:21.31 | vhaarr | jeez |
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| 04:22.43 | vhaarr | that's not very convenient |
| 04:22.57 | pastamancer | you get it for every unit |
| 04:23.23 | vhaarr | yes but it's *very* hard to throttle for addons that only want the event once |
| 04:23.51 | pastamancer | well, it does send the unit |
| 04:23.56 | pastamancer | shouldn't the addon be checking that? |
| 04:24.04 | vhaarr | UnitIsUnit? |
| 04:24.36 | vhaarr | I mean, what would I check, then |
| 04:24.57 | pastamancer | if InRaid and string.match("raid(%d)", unit) then ... |
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| 04:25.17 | vhaarr | yeah that's what I classify as not convenient |
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| 04:26.32 | vhaarr | but anyway |
| 04:26.34 | vhaarr | the scanning |
| 04:27.43 | vhaarr | it was opposite, actually |
| 04:28.17 | vhaarr | [21699] 12/21/06 20:17:31 rabbit .SpecialEvents?-Aura-2.0: Re-scan all auras on PLAYER_LOGIN, since we'll have a clean state then. |
| 04:28.27 | vhaarr | [23172] 01/03/07 05:03:34 pastamancer SpecialEventsEmbed?: - Auras: if we scan all auras on PLAYER_LOGIN it causes problems with addons whose OnEnable? hasn't been called yet. Let's just wait for a real aura event instead. |
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| 04:28.52 | pastamancer | ah, PLAYER_LOGIN isn't P_E_W though |
| 04:28.57 | vhaarr | ah pew |
| 04:28.59 | vhaarr | that is true |
| 04:29.15 | pastamancer | I'm missing ghost fading when someone else zones into an instance at the same time I do |
| 04:29.23 | pastamancer | that's the most noticable |
| 04:29.45 | pastamancer | I was planning to keep the change local for at least a week to test it |
| 04:30.16 | pastamancer | SEEA shouldn't depend on Roster, which is what I think you want |
| 04:30.55 | vhaarr | it is indeed |
| 04:30.55 | Thrae | pastamancer: Why don't you commit your changes in /branches if you don't want people updating it? That way you still have the benefits of using SVN. |
| 04:31.03 | pastamancer | because potentially breaking trunk is fun? |
| 04:31.16 | pastamancer | I'll use branches more once I get the zip script generating files for branches |
| 04:31.35 | Thrae | Why would you need a zip script for branches |
| 04:31.43 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a terrible idea. |
| 04:31.53 | sylvanaar | actually its a good idea |
| 04:31.54 | Thrae | You don't want your unstable code zipped up and distributed |
| 04:32.02 | NightHawkTheSane | if you do that, the unwashed masses will use it, and whine when it breaks. |
| 04:32.20 | vhaarr | pastamancer: I think it sounds like a good idea to rescan auras on PEW |
| 04:32.28 | sylvanaar | no, because pastamancer wont let the lastest version get set to that |
| 04:32.54 | vhaarr | pastamancer: if what you're saying is true, we do not get any events for buffs/debuffs gained/lost by other group members while we zone |
| 04:32.56 | Thrae | pastamancer: If you want to do something like that, wait for tag support in WAU, which makes the most sense. |
| 04:32.57 | vhaarr | pastamancer: which is _bad_ |
| 04:33.11 | Thrae | Proper tag support in WAU for Wowace SVN == teh awesome. |
| 04:33.25 | vhaarr | "proper" tag support? |
| 04:33.34 | Thrae | People tag their stable releases, WAU would give the option to use the bleeding edge. Mmmmm! |
| 04:33.34 | vhaarr | first we need to learn to use a revision control system |
| 04:33.40 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:33.55 | vhaarr | the way we use trunk/branch/tag now is like living in opposite-land |
| 04:33.56 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: yes, indeed. |
| 04:34.08 | vhaarr | we TAG stuff that we REMOVE from trunk, for example |
| 04:34.11 | vhaarr | for some obscene reason |
| 04:34.23 | vhaarr | and use trunk for 'stable' and branch for 'devel' |
| 04:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: because of the zip script, probably :P |
| 04:34.25 | sylvanaar | because we never relase stuff |
| 04:34.34 | vhaarr | which is just .. wrong |
| 04:34.50 | abyssichate | Has Anyone tried Proximo? Does it look something like ArenaMaster/Gladiator? |
| 04:34.57 | vhaarr | tag = release, branch = continued release development (minor revisions), trunk = devel |
| 04:34.58 | NightHawkTheSane | we -should- use tags for stable, zip that, use branches for.. GASP branch development, and trunk for working code. like everyone else who knows how to use revision control systems :P |
| 04:35.07 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: indeed |
| 04:35.09 | sylvanaar | i tag releases - but i dont make many |
| 04:35.18 | pastamancer | trunk is unstable code currently |
| 04:35.20 | Thrae | vhaarr: People don't understand tags, that's why. |
| 04:35.30 | sylvanaar | actually, trunk is the stable code line |
| 04:35.35 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: better than some authors, who never release anything except when they want to renew their wow account. :p |
| 04:35.41 | sylvanaar | you should be developing on a branch |
| 04:35.43 | vhaarr | Thrae: people don't understand anything, because there are no guidelines for how this should work in effect |
| 04:35.55 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: as it is now? yes |
| 04:35.58 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: but that's just wrong |
| 04:36.04 | Thrae | pastamancer: trunk is a mixture depending on what people want to do -- ckknight for example just develops everything in /trunk for the most part. |
| 04:36.15 | vhaarr | everyone does |
| 04:36.18 | pastamancer | yes, much to everyones chagrin |
| 04:36.28 | vhaarr | it's too late to change these things now |
| 04:36.32 | vhaarr | and just accepts that |
| 04:36.33 | Thrae | He's broken Ace2 quite a few times ;D |
| 04:36.34 | vhaarr | -s |
| 04:36.40 | ckknight | ah, it's true. |
| 04:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | you don't let people do what they "want" on an svn, you tell them what how it WILL work, and let them change :P |
| 04:36.47 | pastamancer | branches support in the zip script would easily cover tags too |
| 04:36.56 | ckknight | but it's better whenever it's fixed |
| 04:37.51 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41725 10AuraToChat/libs/: AuraToChat: Forgot SEEA external. |
| 04:38.09 | Thrae | ckknight: Breaking addons is fine and dandy for testing, but WAU users should be given a choice is what we're saying ;) The Wowace gods intend to make files.wowace.com a true platform for releases. |
| 04:38.24 | abyssichate | ckknight: tell me that there is something wrong with [Zone], please! :D. |
| 04:38.25 | vhaarr | Thrae: It's fixed for WAU2 anyway. |
| 04:38.27 | sylvanaar | vhaarr what is wrong? developing on a branch? or not developing on the trunk? |
| 04:38.32 | ckknight | abyssichate: no, I won't tell you. |
| 04:38.39 | vhaarr | I asked sylvanaar to fix it for WAU1 *months* ago, but he never did |
| 04:38.49 | sylvanaar | its not a WAU issue |
| 04:39.00 | Thrae | vhaarr: Err, I don't think the zip script was updated yet? |
| 04:39.02 | vhaarr | I don't think you know what I'm refering to at all |
| 04:39.07 | abyssichate | ckknight: It doesn't show most of the times (no, the unit is not nearby) and if it does, it shows my position :/ |
| 04:39.10 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: nothing's a WAU issue :p |
| 04:39.17 | vhaarr | Thrae: .wau supports a 'FUCKEDUP=TRUE' setting |
| 04:39.20 | vhaarr | Thrae: (for WAU2) |
| 04:39.34 | Thrae | What the hell does that do? |
| 04:39.37 | vhaarr | Thrae: which, if set, will tell the user 'don't upgrade now you fucking retard, the trunk is broken' |
| 04:39.48 | Lywellyn | lol |
| 04:39.56 | vhaarr | so we, in here |
| 04:39.59 | pastamancer | we decided on a "NoReallyNotBroken=true" |
| 04:39.59 | Thrae | vhaarr: How will it know when an addon in /trunk is broken? |
| 04:40.00 | vhaarr | when we know it's broken |
| 04:40.06 | vhaarr | Thrae: we know |
| 04:40.10 | vhaarr | so we commit to the .wau file |
| 04:40.10 | Lywellyn | ckknight: I agree with abyssichate. I'm gettign a few of those issues too. |
| 04:40.26 | ckknight | fine, I'll look into it |
| 04:40.32 | abyssichate | excellent! |
| 04:40.42 | abyssichate | Lywellyn: is the background colouring working fine on guildies for you? |
| 04:40.47 | Thrae | vhaarr: Hmmm, seems better to just try and strictly enforce sane policies for the SVN ;) |
| 04:40.57 | Lywellyn | I changed my background coloring to all black for the moment, so I dunno. ;) |
| 04:40.58 | vhaarr | Thrae: maybe, but I don't think it's simpler at all. |
| 04:41.05 | abyssichate | Alright |
| 04:41.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Its not simpler now, it would have been simpler a year ago maybe :P |
| 04:41.19 | vhaarr | maybe |
| 04:41.20 | Roartindon | I would be all for tags = release, trunk = devel, system, and tagging stuff for release appropriately. |
| 04:41.29 | vhaarr | Roartindon: so would we all |
| 04:41.33 | sylvanaar | except that you are just bypassing svn, and that setting could just prevent a zip from being built instead |
| 04:41.45 | NightHawkTheSane | now, you have an entire infrastructure and coding habits based entirely around /trunk as stable release code |
| 04:41.50 | sylvanaar | which is why it isnt a wau problem |
| 04:42.02 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: of course it's a WAU thing, maybe people WANT the broken packages |
| 04:42.25 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r41726 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: scan auras on P_E_W because we aren't getting events for aura changes that happen while zoning. |
| 04:43.16 | Kinkx | Latest WAU crashes if you search for an addon, check addon's checkbox, then try to search for another addon, crashes then :[ |
| 04:43.20 | Thrae | vhaarr: The zip script could just skip /trunk entirely -- let people make their own tags manually which get zipped. |
| 04:43.23 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 04:43.36 | abyssichate | Kinkx: I've the same |
| 04:43.40 | vhaarr | Thrae: like NightHawkTheSane said, maybe if it had happened a year ago |
| 04:43.42 | vhaarr | it's too late now |
| 04:43.59 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Is it too late to start trying to fix the problem? |
| 04:44.02 | Thrae | Bah, just put the hammer down. People can learn. |
| 04:44.13 | vhaarr | Roartindon: you really think it's worth the effort? |
| 04:44.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't say it's too late. |
| 04:44.16 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I don't. |
| 04:44.19 | NightHawkTheSane | It's just a lot harder. |
| 04:44.57 | Roartindon | vhaarr: hmm.. just change the auto .zip to only pay attention to /tag sinstead of /trunk.... and people will start adapting pretty quickly.... |
| 04:45.05 | vhaarr | if you say so |
| 04:45.05 | pastamancer | I'm all for only zipping up tags |
| 04:45.16 | vhaarr | I'll be leaving IRC for a month the day you do that change |
| 04:45.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 04:45.30 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, people will bitch. |
| 04:45.34 | sylvanaar | why |
| 04:45.39 | pastamancer | I still think trunk zips should be offered though |
| 04:45.44 | sylvanaar | it would be transparent |
| 04:45.54 | Thrae | Well Wowace SVN made the change to require certain eol settings, right? That must have been a HUGE bitch with svn newbies. |
| 04:46.03 | Thrae | But people got through it. |
| 04:46.05 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: eh, i disagree. Trunk is dev code, people who care about that should be using svn |
| 04:46.07 | Roartindon | Thrae: That was only developers, not users |
| 04:46.18 | Antiarc | Trunk should be "stable" code, generally. |
| 04:46.24 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: the trunk zips were to reduce the load on the svn server |
| 04:46.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: no. |
| 04:46.28 | vhaarr | Antiarc: not at all. |
| 04:46.39 | Antiarc | Well, not build-breaking. |
| 04:46.40 | vhaarr | quite the direct opposite, in fact |
| 04:46.42 | pastamancer | a svn checkout via apache/mod_dav_svn is way more expensive than a zip download from lighthttpd |
| 04:46.49 | Antiarc | At least, that's how it's often been everywhere I've used SVN. |
| 04:46.49 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: thats because /trunk is being used as a stable release mechanism |
| 04:47.06 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Every other project I havea worked on, and am working on uses /trunk as development, and we tag stable releases |
| 04:47.11 | vhaarr | Antiarc: you haven't used many open source revision control repositories, then |
| 04:47.24 | NightHawkTheSane | so before zips, people were just 'svn up ./*'ing their entire addon dir, with 40+ ace addons :P |
| 04:47.28 | vhaarr | because it usually works like Roartindon says |
| 04:47.31 | Antiarc | Well, I mean mostly in-house professional SVN |
| 04:47.31 | pastamancer | I am used to trunk compoiling at least |
| 04:47.39 | pastamancer | s/compoiling/compiling/ |
| 04:47.40 | Antiarc | Right, that's what I mean |
| 04:47.43 | vhaarr | and then branches are used to bugfix tagged releases |
| 04:47.44 | Thrae | Roartindon: ? We're talking about changes to development procedure, not users of WAU and the like. Truely dedicated testers can just use SVN if they want the super-bleeding-edge. |
| 04:47.48 | Antiarc | You generally don't check in code that breaks the build |
| 04:47.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, trunk typicaly 'works', but its not 'should be used' :p |
| 04:48.02 | Roartindon | Antiarc: But you do check in code that makes progress, but may cause problems |
| 04:48.17 | vhaarr | trunks are typically kept in a working state so that other developers on the team don't have to pull their hairs out when developing |
| 04:48.29 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Whenever we send stuff to publishers/release, we tag it then.. and everything in between goes into trunk |
| 04:48.36 | Antiarc | Roartindon: I generally try to reserve huge breaky changes for branches |
| 04:48.41 | Antiarc | But yeah, release = tag |
| 04:49.01 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Oh, I agree.. trunk should generally contain working code, but working != stable |
| 04:49.10 | sylvanaar | but - thats not the only thing tag's are used for |
| 04:49.12 | Antiarc | Right. I'll agree with you. I misspoke. |
| 04:49.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yeah, if you're going to massively break/change things, thats what branches are for, obviously. but minor in-progress changes that won't break stuff just gets shoved in trunk |
| 04:49.28 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Completely agreed |
| 04:49.47 | NightHawkTheSane | the bottom line is, of course, the average user shouldn't be updating from /trunk ;) |
| 04:50.03 | Thrae | Antiarc: There's a reason diffs and merge were made in SVN -- /branches is basically for patches, minor revisions, for bug fixes to released code. |
| 04:51.33 | Thrae | Antiarc: A tag is a non-versioned copy basically, hence the name "branches" -- it's a versioned copy of a tag, branched off, until the bug(s) can be fixed. /trunk is called "trunk" because it's a bunch of crap that moves around alot. |
| 04:52.41 | Thrae | Just because people are used to the "Wowace SVN standard", doesn't mean you guys should abandon the real standard :D |
| 04:53.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't call the wowace svn a standard so much as an organically grown mess ;) |
| 04:53.22 | Kaydeethree | like most code everywhere |
| 04:53.24 | sylvanaar | a tag is a snapshot of the source at a moment in time which is meaningful to the person tagging it |
| 04:53.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaydeethree: sadly true |
| 04:53.32 | Roartindon | vhaarr: An alternative, is if the svn repository gains a /dev branch, and we treat that as development, and developers that want to make proper use of it can use it, and can copy stuff to /trunk |
| 04:53.43 | Roartindon | and leave everything else the same |
| 04:53.59 | Roartindon | vhaarr: So the naming won't be quite correct, but the proper process is available. |
| 04:54.22 | Roartindon | so we treat trunk as tags, dev as trunk, and nothing really changes from everyone else's perspective |
| 04:54.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: er, theoretically it'd be trivial to point the zip script at /tags (i assume), so that change is basically just a semantic difference? |
| 04:54.41 | sylvanaar | tags are never developed from |
| 04:55.30 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: Well, it's also so that no one has to be re-educated or adjust |
| 04:55.42 | kebinusan | whats a good demo build point wise, 0/43/18 ish |
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| 04:55.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: devs do, and ultimately, that's who will in either case |
| 04:55.50 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: But developers then get a sandpit to play in |
| 04:55.55 | kebinusan | if anyone cares to comment |
| 04:56.00 | kebinusan | I wanted to play with a lol guard a bit |
| 04:56.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: the difference I see is that one solution enforces better svn usage, the other just vaguely suggests it. :P |
| 04:56.50 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, but I think there may be a case for 'casual' svn usage. |
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| 04:57.02 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: You create a trivial fubar plugin, you commit it, it gets published |
| 04:57.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: yeah, but if you can go through that, going through another step to send it to tags is pretty basic |
| 04:58.00 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: I guess. And casual (bad) people could just commit straight to tags anyway...hm........ :) |
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| 04:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: probably. :\ I wonder if there's a way to stop that.. |
| 04:58.38 | NightHawkTheSane | can you prevent imports into a directory? |
| 04:58.45 | Thrae | I don't think you can commit straight to tags with sane SVN server settings, only export? |
| 04:59.11 | vhaarr | how would you commit to a tag? |
| 04:59.20 | vhaarr | and why? |
| 04:59.56 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: a) just import into /tags like you'd import into /trunk, though as I said, can you prevent that in the svn config? and b) because you're an idiot ;) |
| 05:00.05 | sylvanaar | how bout this - by convention if (some setting isn't made) /tags/<addon>/latest gets overwritten with the lastest version that would be in the zip script now - then the zip script uses tags/addonname/latest to build the zips |
| 05:00.42 | durcyn | then what's the point of having a separate tag |
| 05:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: again, you're only vaguely suggesting correct svn usage, not enforcing it :P |
| 05:01.13 | sylvanaar | the (some setting isnt made) part |
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| 05:02.18 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane you wanna take the complaints? |
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| 05:02.50 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: I'd answer them all the same way. "suck it up and deal." |
| 05:02.50 | Thrae | I do warranty support. Before that, tech support. I'm trained for complaints! |
| 05:03.03 | sylvanaar | ie. no |
| 05:03.07 | NightHawkTheSane | (this, ill note, is why I don't do tech support :P ) |
| 05:03.57 | kenlyric | Thrae, you're in the wrong channel. |
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| 05:04.18 | Thrae | Well, being new to SVN myself, I found the new SVN rules about eol style and such to be confusing when I came back to using the Wowace SVN, but I got through it relatively quickly. |
| 05:04.19 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41727 10BigWigs/Outland/Kazzak.lua: |
| 05:04.19 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
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| 05:04.23 | kenlyric | you need to be belligerent and hostile towards any suggestions. |
| 05:05.08 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 05:05.10 | Thrae | kenlyric: I try to remain neutral :D |
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| 05:05.34 | durcyn | eh, we came up with a flow chart for our developers |
| 05:05.41 | durcyn | is it hard? yes, start over.. no, release |
| 05:05.48 | durcyn | it applies to source control too |
| 05:08.31 | Thrae | Seriously, having 10000 testers is good for a project like BigWigs, Threat, Assessment, Violation, PitBull, etc. which are inundated with features, but most addons on the Wowace SVN are tiny. Developers don't need 10000 people all telling him the same thing. I think the promotion of /trunk was for addons like FuBar, which was a very large and innovative production. The SVN got such heavy usage, the zip scripts needed to be introduced. |
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| 05:09.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: i'm certain thats one reason, though i'm sure that there are others |
| 05:09.38 | Thrae | The zip scripts were needed because developers kept breaking their addons adding features and optimizations, so people would update obsessively to fix the bugs and get new features ;) |
| 05:09.44 | sylvanaar | it was due to libraries that svn was used |
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| 05:10.59 | Thrae | So many commits made it hard to track which version was actually "stable", as some actually stable commits might have gotten drowned in a bunch of commits with new broken features. So people just crossed their fingers and got the latest. |
| 05:11.33 | NightHawkTheSane | add in the fact that people tended to stop releasing to addons sites as "just grab it from the svn" was a lazy way out |
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| 05:12.19 | Thrae | Heh, I knew quite a few prominent developers who did that, since they just didn't care about their users -- they just coded for themselves ;) |
| 05:12.44 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 05:13.10 | Thrae | Not like it's really their fault -- they were using the SVN as it was intended |
| 05:14.00 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, arguably so. But If you know you have a sizable user base, at some point, on some level, you probably have a responsibility to release your addon to a site capable and designed to handle the load :P |
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| 05:14.25 | Fisker- | :< |
| 05:15.17 | Thrae | But what if you just work very, very slowly and may never get a version you find "stable enough"? |
| 05:15.54 | NightHawkTheSane | if that happens, and you actually have a sizable user base, you're probably just being too picky |
| 05:16.27 | NightHawkTheSane | granted, its easy to fall into that, but *shrug* |
| 05:17.37 | harldephin | does anyone know an actually formidable VoIP programme ? |
| 05:17.57 | Thrae | harldephin: Asterisk is the most powerful there is |
| 05:18.29 | durcyn | asterisk is better than most commercial offerings. and i work for someone that sells commercial voip kit. |
| 05:19.03 | Thrae | Yeah, I choose a VoIP provider that supports Asterisk :D Going to make my own setup, one of these days. Their setup is decent enough for now. Only $12/month. |
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| 05:21.43 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 05:21.53 | rubik | wowhead.com down/unreachable for everyone else? this a sign of things to come due to uhhh.. new ownership? |
| 05:21.57 | Fisker- | should one take a benchmark seriously when they refer to Quake Wars as a "DX9" game? |
| 05:22.26 | Fisker- | wowhead had downtimes and maintanences under the old ownership as well |
| 05:22.33 | pastamancer | wowhead has been down all evening... I'm guessing they're moving it to new hardware or something |
| 05:22.51 | rubik | they're prolly adding gold selling banners to every page |
| 05:22.52 | sylvanaar | ok, just make new feeds, you have "latest", just add other ones |
| 05:22.59 | kenlyric | I heard they were installing devices to eat your soul. |
| 05:23.08 | rubik | not like i see ads with firefox + adblock but anyway |
| 05:23.32 | Peoii | rubik: not like anyone who actually read their site would believe that ;) |
| 05:23.54 | Fisker- | and so what if they did rubik? |
| 05:23.57 | Peoii | but wait, research before presumption! omgosh, never.... tis blasphemy to believe such things... |
| 05:24.30 | Peoii | Anyway, back to doing more research on the new babylon 5 movie (woot woot) |
| 05:24.40 | Fisker- | Do you have a problem with goldsellers losing money? |
| 05:24.46 | kenlyric | you mean the one that comes out on dvd next month? |
| 05:25.12 | Peoii | yea |
| 05:25.17 | kenlyric | couldn't be that, since the news of those is like a year old and you couldn't possibly need to research those if you are a fan. |
| 05:25.34 | Peoii | lol, it's more "getting hyped" than "researching" ;) |
| 05:25.42 | kenlyric | oh, here's your research. They will suck. We will watch them and weep. |
| 05:25.51 | Peoii | meh |
| 05:26.02 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i prefer to reserve judgements about suckage, but yeah, i'm not getting hyped. |
| 05:26.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll still watch it though. |
| 05:26.08 | kenlyric | take a random sampling of all b5 movies :) |
| 05:26.14 | harldephin | i know asterisk. forgot to add though, i'm looking for a win32/64 programme with similar functionality. |
| 05:26.22 | NightHawkTheSane | because, lets face it, we'd watch anything jms produced. >< |
| 05:26.29 | kenlyric | it's not a "judgment", it's an expectation based on previous experience. |
| 05:26.39 | kenlyric | I watch murder she wrote just to get his episodes. |
| 05:26.52 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 05:26.53 | Peoii | lol |
| 05:26.57 | sylvanaar | babbleyawn-5 you guys like that? |
| 05:27.01 | Fisker- | what program, what hype, what? |
| 05:27.09 | kenlyric | and of course, to see Andreas Katsulas in them. |
| 05:27.21 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: thats half the reason to watch st:tng, isn't it? :P |
| 05:27.32 | kenlyric | absolutely. |
| 05:27.36 | Peoii | I swear, all my favorite shows are doomed to some tragic failure... |
| 05:27.54 | sylvanaar | I like the new Battlestar: Galactica |
| 05:27.56 | harldephin | sylvanaar: i actually do like b5. |
| 05:27.58 | Peoii | Firefly, Babylon, hell, even stargate is failing me (all be it after quite a while) |
| 05:28.00 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i wouldn't call b5 a tragic failure. i mean, it had a full run and the actual series was solid |
| 05:28.05 | Peoii | the new battlestar is good |
| 05:28.11 | Fisker- | <-Stargate and Doctor Who fan :< |
| 05:28.14 | sylvanaar | its freaking amazing |
| 05:28.17 | NightHawkTheSane | firefly only failed because fox is the fucking devil |
| 05:28.32 | Fisker- | Firefly as well i guess although i mainly saw the movie :P |
| 05:28.33 | NightHawkTheSane | same with just about every worthwhile show on fox |
| 05:28.42 | Fisker- | poor firefly |
| 05:28.49 | pastamancer | need I bring up Arrested Development? |
| 05:29.00 | Peoii | Fisker-: Get the season. It's worth the $20, definately |
| 05:29.00 | sylvanaar | im having trouble getting into stargate - i watched for a couple years then got bored now there is like 2 of them |
| 05:29.02 | harldephin | hm. don't like firefly. like buffy and angel though. |
| 05:29.24 | pastamancer | couldn't stand angel, buffy was pretty entertaining, as was firefly |
| 05:29.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I wasn't a fan of buffy and angel, but that's largely because i didn't like the actress, whats-her-name.. |
| 05:29.32 | Fisker- | Peoii $?? |
| 05:29.33 | Fisker- | :P |
| 05:29.56 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: that's not really a good reason not to like the show, since she's actually decent in the show. |
| 05:29.58 | Fisker- | I just download it because almost every tv-station here is retarded, or too poor to buy them |
| 05:29.58 | harldephin | sarah michelle gellar ? |
| 05:30.00 | kenlyric | yes, she sucks in all other things. |
| 05:30.10 | Peoii | Um, how shall I convert for ya? ;) I by default convert everything back to US dollars :/ |
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| 05:30.20 | Fisker- | Peoii not conversion :P |
| 05:30.21 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: eh, well I didn't like it for other reasons too, its just that was a big one, and I didn't like her in that either, so ;) |
| 05:30.27 | Peoii | ahh, n/m, I see |
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| 05:30.34 | Fisker- | Just that i'm always downloading them as i has no real other alternative :( |
| 05:30.36 | kenlyric | she's still esentially buffy in all things she does, but without a writer who knows how to do it right. |
| 05:30.37 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i'm not saying it wasn't a good show, just not my thing. |
| 05:30.43 | harldephin | like stargate above buffy/angel though. |
| 05:30.54 | kenlyric | and seriously, how could anyone not like firefly? |
| 05:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Stargate is good, the last episode of s10 pissed me off though |
| 05:31.16 | NightHawkTheSane | and It took me a bit to really get into post-s8 plot |
| 05:31.21 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 05:31.21 | harldephin | nevertheless, b5's still one of my top5. b5, top5.. hehe.. uhm.. -.- |
| 05:31.26 | kenlyric | I haven't watched the last episode yet! |
| 05:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | harldephin: yeah, b5's the ruler by which i measure every other show. |
| 05:31.37 | kebinusan | Would it be possible to get a time in combat count in violation somewhere |
| 05:31.56 | harldephin | alongside farscape and 2-3 others |
| 05:32.15 | kenlyric | b5 is the story show, buffy is the drama show. I really can't choose between the two of them. |
| 05:32.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, farscape would be in my top5, easily. |
| 05:32.43 | Fisker- | http://www.flicklife.com/95e7b6d5f9f575b2d7ec/Spoiled_14_year_old_cries_over_new_Lexus.html <-omfg |
| 05:32.50 | kenlyric | I sometimes have hot, sweaty dreams where jms and whedon do a series together. |
| 05:33.15 | pastamancer | kenlyric: write some slashfic! |
| 05:33.20 | harldephin | lol |
| 05:33.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ... please no. :P |
| 05:33.34 | kenlyric | yeah, because I could possibly emulate godx2 |
| 05:33.38 | pastamancer | I'm sure there's already some out there |
| 05:33.43 | Fisker- | you can't emulate me x2 |
| 05:33.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: thankfully :P |
| 05:34.35 | syeren | 1000000000000000000 WAU updates a day >_> |
| 05:34.38 | Fisker- | Hey atleast i wouldn't turn down a Lexus |
| 05:34.40 | Fisker- | :P |
| 05:34.51 | kenlyric | the only thing I've never seen jms do particularly well is comedy. |
| 05:34.56 | Fisker- | That movie is proof of people that just shouldn't be allowed to live |
| 05:35.01 | Peoii | Fisker-: I wanna reach thru that video and slap that "girl"... spoiled bitch... |
| 05:35.05 | Fisker- | kill them, take the money and give them to someone who needs it |
| 05:35.37 | Fisker- | Although i guess she was going like "omg i'm better than you" @ all at the party |
| 05:35.47 | Fisker- | so she got pissed that she can't do that when the cat is out of the box |
| 05:36.20 | Guillotine | is Jerry, author of Talented here? please? |
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| 05:36.34 | kenlyric | I just had someone bitch to be today that they couldn't afford TBC because, among other things, the price of gas for a Hummer is so expensive. |
| 05:36.38 | kenlyric | and he's 16. |
| 05:36.44 | kenlyric | I kinda hope he hits a bus. |
| 05:36.55 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: a bus? i'd prefer a cargo train |
| 05:37.04 | kenlyric | http://www.cliphaven.com/m_pictures/1592.jpg |
| 05:37.08 | kenlyric | for reference |
| 05:37.10 | NightHawkTheSane | then again, i also hope that every hummer in existence would spontaneously explode. |
| 05:37.22 | NightHawkTheSane | or for that matter, every suv. |
| 05:37.25 | harldephin | syeren: wonder where you're getting those from. i only get one about every two days or less. then again, i only update my add-ons about once a day as well, so i guess i'm not much of a reference there. |
| 05:37.32 | kenlyric | (happened to a family member of someone I know... he came out of that accident just fine :) |
| 05:37.49 | sylvanaar | syeren just think how many updates it has saved you from ^.^, im going on vacation in another day anyways then there will be none |
| 05:38.19 | durcyn | kenlyric: mind if i print that out and frame it? |
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| 05:38.31 | kenlyric | I believe it got farked one day :) |
| 05:38.34 | Kneebracehead | wtb armory that dosent crash my firefox |
| 05:38.40 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: lol, I used to think that, til I moved up here.... people actually have a REASON for them up here ;) |
| 05:38.51 | kenlyric | Kneebracehead: a friend is working on a plain html armory. |
| 05:38.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: where's "up here", and I doubt that :P |
| 05:39.15 | Kaydeethree | considering it's just xml on the backend, I'm surprised no one's created a plaintext armory yet |
| 05:39.15 | kenlyric | it's amazing how slow they made the armory, when the db it runs on is spiffy. It's all that ajax or whatever code. |
| 05:39.29 | durcyn | dude... it's flash |
| 05:39.31 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: Northern Idaho... we be stick country... and a winter of 2-5 feet of snow + muddy roads == SUV useful |
| 05:39.40 | kenlyric | and ajax, and evil. and IGE probably too. |
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| 05:40.04 | durcyn | ctprofiles and wowhead are just as bad, tbqh |
| 05:40.18 | syeren | Can anyone tell me how I can find out which addon is generating chat alerts please? |
| 05:40.20 | durcyn | if your site doesn't fall back to standard html when stupid ajax/flash/whatever isn't supported, you need to die |
| 05:40.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: lol, no, not really. :P |
| 05:40.29 | syeren | I'm being spammed by an addon telling me "You are not in a guild." |
| 05:40.32 | syeren | Even though I am. |
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| 05:40.38 | kenlyric | wowhead is pretty spry, and it also makes stuff readable, unlike the armory. |
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| 05:40.43 | sylvanaar | maybe you got gkicked |
| 05:40.43 | Kaydeethree | start disabling addons until you stop getting the error? |
| 05:40.46 | durcyn | wowhead doesn't work in links. |
| 05:40.47 | kenlyric | your guild sucks. |
| 05:40.49 | durcyn | hence, fuck wowhead. |
| 05:40.50 | pastamancer | syeren: are you able to talk in guild chat? |
| 05:40.51 | kenlyric | it wants you to change. |
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| 05:41.17 | syeren | No, what the hell. |
| 05:41.24 | Guillotine | syeren: just curious, what is your guild name? |
| 05:41.27 | syeren | "Mrs. Self Destruct of Self Destruct." |
| 05:41.33 | syeren | "You are not in a guild." |
| 05:41.38 | Peoii | durcyn: You're to dumb to know it's Lynx. Screw you hippy =) |
| 05:41.41 | harldephin | text-based armory. i've actually dreamt of something like that already, believe it or not. |
| 05:41.43 | Kaydeethree | what happens when you run /gmotd |
| 05:41.44 | pastamancer | the 'you are not in a guild' error usually happens because of SendAddonMessage with distirbution 'guild' when you can't talk in gchat |
| 05:41.48 | kenlyric | syeren: thanks, now that song is stuck in my head. |
| 05:41.54 | Guillotine | I had the same bug when they changed our guild name :( is it possible yours is copyrighted or something? |
| 05:42.04 | durcyn | Peoii: lynx, links, elinks, whatever. they're all browsers and wowhead barfs on 'em all. even with ecmascript support compiled into elinks. |
| 05:42.09 | syeren | How can I stop this? |
| 05:42.16 | syeren | I'm being spammed every 5 seconds --- |
| 05:42.16 | sylvanaar | haha, like its getting spam filtered lol |
| 05:42.24 | durcyn | Peoii: hence, nuts to them again :o |
| 05:42.29 | kenlyric | wowhead doesn't even use good xml. |
| 05:42.52 | Kaydeethree | have you tried relogging? |
| 05:42.54 | kenlyric | i hear from this same friend that's it's pretty rough to scrape. |
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| 05:43.25 | durcyn | it's pretty heinous. you can search, but if you get more than one result.. give up and go home |
| 05:43.51 | pastamancer | syeren: /run SendAddonMessage = function () end |
| 05:43.55 | durcyn | thottbot and allakhazam are the most accessible, sadly. |
| 05:44.05 | syeren | OH MY FUCKING GOD. |
| 05:44.06 | kenlyric | not too sad. |
| 05:44.33 | syeren | No more spam it would seem thanks. |
| 05:44.35 | kenlyric | since their site design can't offend you while suing links :) |
| 05:44.41 | durcyn | hell, even wowace.com/files/ index page only sorts in a javascript browser. |
| 05:44.52 | pastamancer | syeren: it'll totally break any addons that use SendAddonMessage though :p |
| 05:44.53 | kenlyric | *using |
| 05:45.02 | syeren | Does that mean my guild has been disbanded? |
| 05:45.04 | durcyn | people need to learn to code for more than just gui browsers. |
| 05:45.25 | durcyn | code. whatever. markup. learn2html please. |
| 05:45.58 | syeren | pastamancer, it didn't work. |
| 05:46.05 | Kaydeethree | syeren; try logging out and back in. failing that, run the command /resetchat, log out, delete your cache and log back in. if you still can't talk in guild, /gquit and get reinvited |
| 05:46.15 | harldephin | syeren: if you can still open the guild frame, that means you're still in the guild. if not then not. |
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| 05:47.29 | syeren | I can't /gquit. |
| 05:47.34 | syeren | Have a guess what message I get. |
| 05:47.36 | syeren | Go on, guess. |
| 05:47.46 | kenlyric | you are not in a guild |
| 05:47.57 | Kaydeethree | then page an officer to get reinvited? |
| 05:48.10 | syeren | It's 6:42 AM ;p |
| 05:48.19 | kenlyric | http://wowism.net/txt/us/kargath/dovoso - first stab at a plain html armory. |
| 05:48.27 | syeren | And seems as I left my raiding guild yesterday, no one is on in my 2 man guild :p |
| 05:48.29 | Guillotine | meh. boo on authors providing no contact info whatsoever and only hosting addons where there is no way to send them a PM :( |
| 05:48.47 | kenlyric | I'm sure that's by design, so you can't bug them. |
| 05:49.07 | Kaydeethree | oh damn. that's awesome. shows buffs and everything |
| 05:49.10 | pastamancer | Guillotine: bah, leaving contact info means users can... contact you. that's not fun at all |
| 05:49.11 | kenlyric | I do similar things in my own job so people can't find me. |
| 05:49.31 | sylvanaar | yeah, me too |
| 05:49.34 | harldephin | i've had that "You are not in a guild." message appearing too about a month ago everytime i visited an NPC merchant, but not any other NPC. i don't recall which add-on's that caused, though it's been solved shortly after anyway. |
| 05:49.39 | kenlyric | he's got an irc bot that shows a lot more information. The data's there, just have to manipulate it. |
| 05:49.41 | Guillotine | ya, but you guys are reachable on IRC |
| 05:49.44 | syeren | http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a1b12fe661.jpg |
| 05:49.44 | kbh | humm |
| 05:49.46 | syeren | I AM NOT IN A GUILD. |
| 05:49.54 | kenlyric | I'm not reachable on irc by people that want my help :) |
| 05:50.17 | pastamancer | being on irc doesn't mean that we're reachable :) |
| 05:50.19 | durcyn | "I eventually had to go down to the basement, it was in the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign saying 'beward the leopard', and the stairs had gone" is about what users should have to go through, imo. |
| 05:50.21 | Lyfe | can we ask you questions to get answered if we don't want your help? :) |
| 05:50.28 | Guillotine | but I don't want his help. I want to help him :( |
| 05:50.36 | sylvanaar | pastamancer thats the truth |
| 05:50.57 | Guillotine | well, actually I want a feature. But I'm willing to add it if hes ok with him >< |
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| 05:51.13 | Guillotine | want a way to temporarily show a template in Talented rather than having to make one, hook his OnClose and delete it then -_- |
| 05:51.17 | durcyn | Guillotine: if it's on wowace, get an svn account and ninja-commit it, that'll teach us not to use tags. |
| 05:51.19 | Lyfe | don't forget, he had to go down there with a torch! :) |
| 05:51.27 | kenlyric | no torch. |
| 05:51.38 | Lyfe | no torch? |
| 05:51.40 | durcyn | i don't remember mention of a torch, but i've not read the book in years |
| 05:51.48 | durcyn | it's a wonder i was able to recall that much |
| 05:51.48 | Guillotine | durcyn: I have an svn account, but I'm opposed to ninja-commiting :( |
| 05:51.51 | kenlyric | like going through a dungeon in dragon warrior with no torch. |
| 05:52.15 | Lyfe | well, flashlight.. prossor (the bypass guy) responds that the lights had probably gone, and arthur responds "so had the stairs" |
| 05:52.21 | durcyn | Guillotine: branch it. |
| 05:52.25 | syeren | This is annoying, I tried re-logging, I tried gquitting, and no one is on who I know who can invite me to a guild :/ |
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| 05:52.42 | kenlyric | I'm taking it one step further and saying no light of your own. Complete and utter blackness. |
| 05:52.56 | durcyn | kenlyric: you are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
| 05:53.02 | Lyfe | hehhee. |
| 05:53.02 | kenlyric | and there should be a board full of knives at the bottom. |
| 05:53.20 | symian | Hi. I've written my first real, complete, useful mod, and I'd like to share it. First, though, I'd like to add it to SVN. I've followed the steps on the wiki, including signing and emailing. It's been a few days since then: what else should I do? |
| 05:53.43 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@254.145-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 05:54.03 | Lyfe | is there a gui mod that lets me play tic tac toe yet? |
| 05:54.11 | AnduinLothar | there has been for ages |
| 05:54.17 | durcyn | which reminds me, someone actually wrote an H2G2 game for the Infocom parser. it's absolutely brutal. |
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| 05:54.26 | AnduinLothar | there was one in cosmos in wow beta |
| 05:54.38 | Kaydeethree | isn't it part of the framexml? |
| 05:54.42 | Lyfe | hehe |
| 05:54.50 | art3mis | where's the festival flame in dm? |
| 05:54.56 | art3mis | west side by the bear? |
| 05:55.00 | kenlyric | north |
| 05:55.03 | kenlyric | I believe. |
| 05:55.09 | art3mis | yeah i cant remember |
| 05:55.16 | durcyn | there was one point you could actually kill yourself and be forced to start over in a single move, and the correct one looped twice to confuse you. evil i tell you. |
| 05:55.18 | kenlyric | I believe it's by the ogre tanin. |
| 05:55.41 | kenlyric | I really don't have a clue... I never did that quest back when people went to those places. |
| 05:56.02 | art3mis | heh me too but i fergot my cinder pet |
| 05:56.04 | Lyfe | how about battleship? can i play battleship while i wait for AV to pop? :) |
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| 05:56.34 | art3mis | you can play wowkanoid |
| 05:56.40 | art3mis | really thats qall you need |
| 05:56.44 | art3mis | all |
| 05:57.35 | kenlyric | i finally got myself a usb controller so I can play platformers as they were intended. |
| 05:57.42 | kenlyric | playing SMB3 makes me want to watch The Wizard. |
| 05:57.51 | durcyn | hrm, according to thott, "Dire Maul fire is after Guard Slip'kik" |
| 05:58.07 | harldephin | is there any reason for still utilizing GMT when it's actually been widely replaced by UTC ? |
| 05:58.09 | durcyn | which would put it near the tannin, yes |
| 05:58.35 | kenlyric | harldephin: well, GMT is a different *time*, but otherwise, no. |
| 06:00.25 | kenlyric | i'm not sure if my grammar there made sense. The simple answer is "no". |
| 06:00.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41729 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua): |
| 06:00.34 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 06:00.34 | CIA-22 | - Fixed an infinite loop that brought the raid to its knees if two modules were activated right one after the other. |
| 06:00.34 | CIA-22 | - Added proper handling of enemy targets that show up halfway into a fight. This should automatically give more accurate threat on fights like Reliquary of Souls and Vashj. |
| 06:00.35 | CIA-22 | - Fixed TPS calculations |
| 06:00.37 | kenlyric | I personally believe we should all just be on UTC. |
| 06:00.39 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a problem that could cause the lib from loading if two copies were present. |
| 06:00.51 | harldephin | well, yea. that's what i think as well |
| 06:01.47 | kenlyric | or as a good start, every idiot who sends me a log should at least have it in UTC. |
| 06:02.01 | pastamancer | whatever happened to that swatch 'metric' time? |
| 06:02.35 | Kaydeethree | @beats? I had a watch that gave time in beats for a while. dunno what happened to it |
| 06:02.36 | kenlyric | does it go for dates too? |
| 06:02.40 | durcyn | pastamancer: they were laughed off the planet |
| 06:02.58 | pastamancer | hehe |
| 06:03.17 | kenlyric | our time numbering system is quite robust. No need to change it. But time zones just make me stupid. |
| 06:03.17 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41730 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua OmenMenu.lua): |
| 06:03.17 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 06:03.17 | CIA-22 | - Changed TPS mechanism to use internal Threat TPS mechanism |
| 06:03.17 | CIA-22 | - Added position memory |
| 06:03.17 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a menu entry |
| 06:03.17 | CIA-22 | - Player and Aggro bars are red by default now |
| 06:03.19 | CIA-22 | - Made a few optimizations |
| 06:03.46 | kenlyric | but, they do allow it to be "five o'clock somewhere" |
| 06:03.54 | durcyn | i can handle time zones. as long as they don't fricking change twice a year. |
| 06:04.27 | pastamancer | kenlyric: touche |
| 06:04.38 | kenlyric | durcyn: bah! |
| 06:04.50 | Kaydeethree | it's always happy hour somewhere. that's all I care about |
| 06:05.12 | kenlyric | My microwave still doesn't have the correct time. |
| 06:05.33 | NightHawkTheSane | does your vcr flash 12:00 too? :P |
| 06:05.41 | kenlyric | my vcr is in a box. |
| 06:05.47 | pastamancer | bah, happy hour... my liquor store treats me well |
| 06:05.55 | Kaydeethree | what is this "vcr" of which you speak? |
| 06:06.05 | kenlyric | and no, my vcr never blinked 12:00. I can't stand the blinking. |
| 06:06.18 | kenlyric | it's just, I'm new at this time changing thing. |
| 06:06.24 | kenlyric | we only started doing it last year. |
| 06:06.43 | NightHawkTheSane | its easy. YOu just tell your computer/cell phone/whatever to do it for you, and then forget it even exists. |
| 06:06.45 | pastamancer | oh, so you missed out on the great US DST change? that was fun |
| 06:06.54 | kenlyric | pastamancer: no, that was this year. |
| 06:06.56 | Kaydeethree | you'll get used to it. it'd just be nice if the guv'ment didn't change the dst change on us |
| 06:07.14 | Kaydeethree | not that it did us any good whatsoever |
| 06:07.16 | pastamancer | updating all the NT4 servers was exciting |
| 06:07.19 | kenlyric | so we spent 20 years trying not to observe DST, then we did, then they fucking change it. |
| 06:07.24 | pastamancer | haha |
| 06:07.30 | art3mis | laugh pasta |
| 06:07.38 | pastamancer | share my pain |
| 06:07.45 | art3mis | having to update blackberrys and palms that didnt like it all that much was fun too |
| 06:07.52 | harldephin | well i had no problem to just use the time "somewhere" if that time was global and absolutely and definitely and uniquely identifiable |
| 06:07.59 | harldephin | if you get my meaning |
| 06:08.13 | art3mis | thats just it harl |
| 06:08.20 | art3mis | time isnt finite its all relative |
| 06:08.22 | art3mis | ;) |
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| 06:08.26 | harldephin | moa.. |
| 06:08.38 | NightHawkTheSane | time is an illusion. |
| 06:08.39 | harldephin | time flies. |
| 06:08.42 | NightHawkTheSane | lunchtime doubly so. |
| 06:08.56 | kenlyric | all DST means to me is that on sunday nights, it's 9:30 and still light out and I think I can go get food but I can't. |
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| 06:09.00 | harldephin | i know that stuff. i'm talking measurement, not (meta)physics. |
| 06:09.18 | NightHawkTheSane | there's nothing meta about it, really |
| 06:09.28 | harldephin | depends on what to talk about |
| 06:09.41 | Kaydeethree | yay for relativistic speeds |
| 06:09.46 | kenlyric | time should be measured in something absolute, like the rate at which nerf threads are started. |
| 06:09.58 | harldephin | hr |
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| 06:10.14 | pastamancer | well, aren't seconds officially measured in the number of somethings of a cesium atom? |
| 06:10.14 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: or the time until a thread is Godwin'd as a function of it's post count? |
| 06:10.15 | Kaydeethree | so uh, the first forum post for the first game that ever had forums? |
| 06:10.17 | kenlyric | i tried to come up with something funny there, but it was just epic fail. |
| 06:10.23 | art3mis | technically it is emasureed accuratly |
| 06:10.35 | art3mis | however the starting and marking points is all relative ;) |
| 06:10.39 | art3mis | measured |
| 06:10.45 | kenlyric | no such things, since measuring changes the outcome. |
| 06:10.55 | symian | So, can anyone help me along in getting wowace SVN access? |
| 06:11.07 | Kaydeethree | only on the quantum stage, we can accurately measure the vibrations of cesium |
| 06:11.11 | kenlyric | all sons have physics jokes. |
| 06:11.27 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: yeah, the vibration of a cesium atom is used as the "official" timekeeping piece |
| 06:11.44 | harldephin | but what about just.. say.. using UTC+0 and dropping all daylight saving crap everywhere. just one stupid time zone for the whole world. where's the problem with that. |
| 06:11.44 | NightHawkTheSane | afaik, at least |
| 06:11.59 | Kaydeethree | harldephin, they tried that in russia, it didn't work all that well |
| 06:12.05 | harldephin | i know |
| 06:12.08 | NightHawkTheSane | harldephin: largely because people like noon to be when the sun is highest, etc, etc. |
| 06:12.11 | harldephin | but they didn't do it right |
| 06:12.23 | harldephin | well, i don't care when "noon" is |
| 06:12.28 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: aha, "In 1967, the 13th General Conference on Weights and Measures first defined the International System (SI) unit of time, the second, in terms of atomic time rather than the motion of the Earth. Specifically, a second was defined as the duration of 9,192,631,770 cycles of microwave light absorbed or emitted by the hyperfine transition of cesium-133 atoms in their ground state undisturbed by external fields." |
| 06:12.49 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: yes, thats it. :P |
| 06:12.51 | kenlyric | harldephin: turns out, we're computer geeks, not normal people. Normal people are tied to this thing called "the sun". |
| 06:12.53 | kenlyric | idiots. |
| 06:13.00 | harldephin | hehe |
| 06:13.07 | pastamancer | kenlyric: yeah, it's totally overrated |
| 06:13.08 | Kaydeethree | meh. it'd just be nice if we had a more accurate baseline for the kilogram. blocks of iridium aren't accurate enough |
| 06:13.17 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a building here in seattle that has the graffitti "kill the sun" on it. |
| 06:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | it amuses me |
| 06:13.23 | pastamancer | does france still have the official kilogram? |
| 06:13.28 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time |
| 06:13.34 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 06:13.37 | harldephin | ;) |
| 06:13.42 | kenlyric | in seattle? |
| 06:13.49 | kenlyric | what, did they see a photograph of the sun? |
| 06:14.00 | NightHawkTheSane | presumably :P |
| 06:14.01 | harldephin | hrhr |
| 06:14.36 | art3mis | kenlyric: it may change the outcome however for that relational equation its completely accruate, although not absolute ;P |
| 06:15.23 | pastamancer | are there any grid users out there that have been experiencing the raid lockups? |
| 06:15.24 | harl|away | later |
| 06:15.46 | Guillotine | eh, whats the function that returns the frame the mouse is over again? |
| 06:15.50 | Kaydeethree | not I. most of our raid lockups are from x-perl users |
| 06:15.55 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:15.56 | Kaydeethree | GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 06:16.04 | Guillotine | ty :) |
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| 06:16.27 | pastamancer | I hacked in a workaround to Grid, I hear xperl has had a workaround for about a week |
| 06:16.57 | Kaydeethree | meh. I've been bitching at guildies to get updates. they say they've been using the latest update on curse and they're still having issues |
| 06:17.41 | Kaydeethree | I'm about to pull strings and ban it from raids |
| 06:17.54 | pastamancer | I don't mind kicking people out of the raid if they get DCd |
| 06:18.03 | kenlyric | wouldn't the disconnects do that for you? |
| 06:18.05 | NightHawkTheSane | lol.. "In a few tens of thousands of years (the timing is very uncertain) LOD will exceed 86401 s, causing the current form of UTC to break down due to requiring more than one leap second per day." oh gods! the horror! *flees in terror* |
| 06:18.14 | Kaydeethree | we do that too, it's still annoying |
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| 06:19.20 | pastamancer | I'd just love to get confirmation that my workaround for the lockups actually... works |
| 06:19.34 | Kaydeethree | I've never had issues with grid |
| 06:19.56 | pastamancer | I'm unregistering UNIT_NAME on the headers on P_E_W and then re-registering it 5 seconds later |
| 06:20.03 | pastamancer | Kaydeethree: neither have I :) |
| 06:20.27 | kenlyric | i love with wikipedia, it tells me everything I want to know, Universal Studios released The Wizard on widescreen DVD on August 22, 2006. |
| 06:20.41 | pastamancer | I even tried disconnecting myself in a full AV raid and then re-connecting |
| 06:21.17 | Kaydeethree | meh. I can pretty consistently crash wow due to a winealsa bug. never had issues getting back in the game |
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| 06:28.39 | kenlyric | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Troopbeverlyhills_dvd.jpg |
| 06:29.00 | kenlyric | that's where a random stroll around wikipedia led me to. |
| 06:29.24 | Kinkx | Haha |
| 06:30.38 | kenlyric | tabbed browsing + wikipedia will turn out to be the thing which immobilizes our civilization so the alien invasion can happen. It's far worse than any mmo could ever hope to be. |
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| 06:41.10 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41731 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: |
| 06:41.10 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 06:41.10 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.30 | Killmore | Antiarc ? |
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| 06:44.22 | Antiarc | Heya |
| 06:44.31 | Killmore | did you see your pm ? |
| 06:44.59 | Antiarc | Oh, yeah |
| 06:45.11 | Killmore | about the |
| 06:45.11 | Killmore | [2007/06/25 22:51:14-173-x1]: Threat-1.0-41710 (Threat-1.0):726: Unknown unit token: raid11pet |
| 06:45.15 | Antiarc | yup |
| 06:45.18 | Killmore | cool |
| 06:46.31 | starlon | Antiarc, any possibility of multiple target windows for Omen? |
| 06:49.58 | Antiarc | starlon: Not really thinking in that direction right now |
| 06:50.08 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 06:50.26 | Antiarc | Pullout bars solve most of that issue. |
| 06:50.41 | starlon | Hmm |
| 06:51.17 | Killmore | [Ammo]: morning ? :P |
| 06:51.24 | [Ammo] | yarr morning |
| 06:51.36 | starlon | I haven't played with the pullout bars yet. |
| 06:51.39 | [Ammo] | time time when coffee is a blessing like none other |
| 06:51.48 | starlon | So I wouldn't know if that's what I'm looking for or not :) |
| 06:52.03 | [Ammo] | pullout => just pull out a tank |
| 06:52.12 | [Ammo] | and you can always compare your aggro to his |
| 06:53.20 | starlon | would it help a tank holding multi aggro? |
| 06:53.43 | starlon | like a tank on attumen |
| 06:54.42 | theoddone33 | I need to figure out what level I can solo UBRS at |
| 06:56.11 | Wobwork | 70 |
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| 06:56.27 | |Kev| | you can't solo ubrs |
| 06:56.45 | Wobwork | oh yea |
| 06:56.46 | xystic | You can solo everything besides Drak, in UBRS... |
| 06:56.57 | Wobwork | cause you need more than one person to start the emberthingie event |
| 06:57.04 | |Kev| | xystic: you can't, you can't release emerstrife solo |
| 06:57.08 | xystic | ah, gotcha |
| 06:57.16 | |Kev| | I threemanned it the other day |
| 06:57.24 | |Kev| | 62 mage, 70 hunter, 70 priest |
| 06:57.43 | xystic | |Kev|: After that event, could the two 70's have two-manned Drak? |
| 06:57.44 | |Kev| | excellent hunter, acceptable mage (me) and not so hot priest |
| 06:57.52 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:58.01 | |Kev| | and drakk was /hard/ |
| 06:58.04 | Athou | does anyone know how to fix that ? |
| 06:58.06 | Athou | [2007/06/26 08:54:45-1132-x2]: DeuceCommander-1.1\DeuceCommander.lua:74: Dewdrop-2.0: args.Miscellaneous.args.AddonLoader.args.overrides.args.MobHealth: "disabled" must be a function, string, or boolean |
| 06:58.07 | RogueShadow | today in Sm I did double the dps if a 38 mage, and i'm a 34 rogue. |
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| 06:58.39 | |Kev| | I think if I'd been playing the priest, it's possible we could have two-manned Drakk |
| 06:58.42 | Wobwork | I'm quite disappointed at my 66 rogue's dps =( |
| 06:58.45 | |Kev| | but he's tricky |
| 06:58.56 | RogueShadow | Kev, teach mages how to play. lol |
| 06:58.57 | Wobwork | It's horrifically pitiful =\ |
| 06:59.11 | xystic | I've only ever played a warrior... |
| 06:59.25 | |Kev| | Wobwork: my 61 (dinged 62 in the run) mage outdpsd the 64 rogue quite a lot in furnace/pens the other day |
| 06:59.41 | RogueShadow | My highest char is a 36 rogue. Working on making it a 40 rogue. then we'll see from there. |
| 06:59.53 | Wobwork | |Kev|: I dunno what it is, but my rogue dps has been horrible |
| 07:00.05 | |Kev| | yeah, so was this guy's |
| 07:00.05 | Wobwork | or rather I don't know how I can improve it |
| 07:00.06 | |Kev| | yet in raids, they seem to be very good |
| 07:00.13 | |Kev| | so I wonder if it's pre-endgame gear |
| 07:00.13 | RogueShadow | What spec |
| 07:00.14 | Wobwork | aside from grinding my blacksmithing up and getting the maces |
| 07:00.25 | Wobwork | Mace/hemo =P |
| 07:00.29 | Wobwork | for lols |
| 07:00.39 | |Kev| | I /thought/ that hemo wasn't that hot for dps at the moment |
| 07:00.45 | Wobwork | It's not, really |
| 07:00.52 | RogueShadow | ya. i'm combat. I use daggers, but I havne't spec'd daggers yet. Waiting on that. |
| 07:01.05 | Wobwork | I couldn't be daggerspec really |
| 07:01.13 | RogueShadow | Put 5 points into the assasination crit |
| 07:01.13 | Wobwork | or a backstab spec |
| 07:01.23 | Wobwork | it relys too much on positioning |
| 07:01.31 | Wobwork | and my latency doesn't really allow for that easily |
| 07:01.41 | RogueShadow | Hehe. I understand completely |
| 07:01.46 | RogueShadow | Maces or Swords will do you fine |
| 07:02.00 | RogueShadow | but let me tell you, use a high damage range weapon if you dont' use daggers. |
| 07:02.02 | Wobwork | Considering grinding blacksmithing up and getting the haste maces |
| 07:02.04 | RogueShadow | Sinister strike will thank you |
| 07:02.09 | |Kev| | heh, yes, I wonder how my dps increased when I went from US servers to EU |
| 07:02.24 | Wobwork | wtb oceanic servers actually -in- oceania |
| 07:02.25 | |Kev| | latency dropped to around an eighth what it was before :) |
| 07:02.42 | |Kev| | Wobwork: but America's /close/, right? >:) |
| 07:02.49 | Wobwork | oh yeah! |
| 07:02.53 | Wobwork | ... close. |
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| 07:03.29 | |Kev| | I miss my mage tbh |
| 07:03.36 | |Kev| | used to have a troll mage on m'g before I moved |
| 07:03.51 | |Kev| | moved servers, that is, I've always been EU-based |
| 07:04.09 | |Kev| | then rolled a lock when I came to EU servers to get a raid spot |
| 07:04.18 | |Kev| | then a druid to get a raid spot when there was a lock surplus |
| 07:04.35 | |Kev| | and my mage alt's never really seen the limelight :( |
| 07:05.12 | Kinkx | [2007/06/26 09:06:33-1297-x5]: InFlight\InFlight.lua:169: attempt to index upvalue 'db' (a nil value) |
| 07:05.16 | Kinkx | I can't fly! |
| 07:05.19 | Kinkx | boo |
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| 07:07.50 | RogueShadow | hmm |
| 07:10.14 | Guillotine | sure you can! buy a flying mount! |
| 07:10.53 | nevcairiel | or be a druid |
| 07:12.15 | Fisker- | :I |
| 07:12.20 | |Kev| | or think happy thoughts? :) |
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| 07:13.34 | Guillotine | hey sag |
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| 07:25.47 | Kinkx | Guillotine, but i'm in orgrimmar! |
| 07:25.53 | Kinkx | Can't use my flying mount :< |
| 07:26.35 | Guillotine | oh :( |
| 07:26.38 | Kinkx | totalpackage broke InFlight and Capping it seems :[ |
| 07:27.16 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 07:27.20 | [Ammo] | capping didn't error for me just now |
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| 07:27.36 | [Ammo] | don't use inflight since ToFu + Quartz is all I need :) |
| 07:28.03 | Guillotine | I just beat 2 druids solo XD but now they have their mage friend :( can take out 2, but don't think I could kill the third |
| 07:28.39 | Kinkx | Capping doesn't always show who has the flag etc now, have to disable and enable it to get it working |
| 07:28.45 | Health | Nice first day of ZAM Network owning.... wowhead down |
| 07:28.57 | copystring__ | anyone knows if its possible to move single players of pitbulls party interface? only get the whole group moving... |
| 07:29.08 | Kinkx | ToFu > InFlight? :o |
| 07:29.12 | Kinkx | I'm using Quartz already |
| 07:29.43 | Kinkx | Actually.. dunno why I need InFlight at all, I got a 310% flying mount.. :p |
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| 07:30.08 | [Ammo] | Inflight + quartz = 2x flight bars |
| 07:30.13 | [Ammo] | tofu + quartz = 1 |
| 07:31.12 | Kemayo | Finally, refusing to add my own bar has paid off! |
| 07:32.07 | [Ammo] | hehe indeed |
| 07:32.08 | syeren | Pffttt. |
| 07:32.13 | [Ammo] | now go fix that leaky bucket called quixote |
| 07:32.18 | syeren | AFK on Swift Netherdrake in the Direction of the place you're going. |
| 07:32.21 | syeren | That's how you get around :p |
| 07:32.27 | [Ammo] | every QUEST_LOG_UPDATE it eats a fuckton of memory |
| 07:32.33 | [Ammo] | I fixed a small leak |
| 07:32.37 | [Ammo] | but the big ass ones are still in there |
| 07:32.50 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 07:33.17 | kbh | lol putting in-game armor on celebrities is fun! |
| 07:33.26 | kbh | http://www.thecybershire.com/EIB/annatelevir.bmp |
| 07:33.28 | [Ammo] | syeren: that requires you to have a fast mount |
| 07:34.46 | kbh | can cartogropher tell which direction your toon is facing |
| 07:34.58 | [Ammo] | the wow api can tell you that |
| 07:35.03 | [Ammo] | www.wowwiki.com has all the info you need |
| 07:35.49 | kbh | so you could add a angle vs waypoint in outland and aim directly at a location |
| 07:36.22 | [Ammo] | euhm, you can just do: /way x,y and carto will give you an arrow |
| 07:36.37 | kbh | well, perfect center isnt marked |
| 07:37.06 | kbh | what if i want to fly directly to halaa from netherstorm without having to adjust my location halfway thru the "flightpath" |
| 07:37.35 | kbh | and its on a per zone basis |
| 07:37.55 | kbh | is the map forced to change when you switch zones |
| 07:38.12 | kbh | or could you potentially set continent wide waypoints |
| 07:38.40 | Kemayo | [Ammo]: Fine, fine, I've hooked Expo up to it and will watch for problems. |
| 07:39.56 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 07:40.09 | [Ammo] | just do: /script Someaddon:TriggerEvent("QUEST_LOG_UPDATE") |
| 07:40.13 | [Ammo] | yes that's not what you should do |
| 07:40.20 | [Ammo] | but it works for debugging this |
| 07:40.59 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r41732 10AtlasLoot/ (12 files in 7 dirs): |
| 07:40.59 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:40.59 | CIA-22 | - Re-instated TK legendaries, fixed a small bug in the search function |
| 07:41.17 | Arrowmaster | hey [Ammo] i noticed something that looked wrong in bigwigs, when you do :ToString() on a boss module is it localized? |
| 07:41.24 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 07:42.15 | Arrowmaster | ok then its probably sending localized BossDeath syncs instead of reverse translating them then syncing |
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| 07:43.01 | [Ammo] | it is |
| 07:43.02 | Arrowmaster | also the CHAT_MSG_ADDON handler has a major problem in it in the comm |
| 07:43.10 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 07:43.38 | Arrowmaster | you can fuck with somebody elses bigwigs by sending addon wisphers |
| 07:44.22 | [Ammo] | hmm you can |
| 07:44.33 | [Ammo] | but you could also just send RAID distro's |
| 07:44.34 | [Ammo] | but yeah |
| 07:45.29 | Arrowmaster | such as sending some other guilds maintank an addon whisper for bigwigs of BossDeath BossName while there in the middle of fighting BossName and make him loss all the timers |
| 07:46.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 07:46.56 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41733 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: only listen to raid or party distro for chat_msg_addon |
| 07:46.59 | [Ammo] | good find arrowmastetr |
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| 07:49.12 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking that maybe the BossDeath part of BigWigs_RecvSync in the core could be tweaked so a boss module like the 4horsemen wouldnt have to completely redo the entire thing when it just wants to use ["%s have been defeated"] instead of ["%s has been defeated"] |
| 07:49.47 | [Ammo] | not worth the trouble |
| 07:50.43 | Arrowmaster | this would also help a small module i was going to make that would be just like the old voicesfrombeyond but use bigwigs, but since not all the modules use BossDeath to announce the kill and turn themselves off it wouldnt work for every boss |
| 07:50.49 | [Ammo] | the whole thing should have been fixed by using a different string :) |
| 07:51.00 | [Ammo] | Defeated: <boss>! |
| 07:51.23 | Arrowmaster | or just use a string from the module if its found otherwise the default one |
| 07:51.26 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: since WAU 1.9.12 I'm not able to resize the WAU window. And when it's minimized, I have to maximize it via right klick -> maximize. |
| 07:51.31 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 07:51.35 | [Ammo] | but yeah you're likely right |
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| 07:52.28 | wmealing | Hey guys, before i go much further.. i'll ask if its possible.. and then go from there. |
| 07:52.32 | Arrowmaster | im gona fix that damn R+J module when ive got time, stupid thing doesnt have a death check |
| 07:52.36 | wmealing | I'm a python programmer.. so bear with me |
| 07:53.19 | wmealing | I have a spare wow account for 90+% of the day. |
| 07:53.39 | wmealing | i'd like to write some kind of plugin for my guild website |
| 07:53.44 | wmealing | to "talk" to players through a plugin |
| 07:53.46 | wmealing | is that possible ? |
| 07:53.50 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:54.05 | wmealing | ok, failing that |
| 07:54.08 | wmealing | can i find out who is online ? |
| 07:54.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:54.25 | Arrowmaster | ill help you out here |
| 07:54.28 | wmealing | thanks for the definitive answers. |
| 07:54.31 | wmealing | i do appreciate them |
| 07:54.46 | Arrowmaster | any idea you come up with that involves wow communicating with anything that isnt wow, not possible |
| 07:54.49 | ZealotOnAStick | I need ideas for good music for an Al'ar kill video. |
| 07:54.58 | wmealing | Arrowmaster, bliz stopping the spammers hey ? |
| 07:55.11 | NeoTron | Cryect: would be nice if you were able to view the "Detail Window" for any fight registerd in Recount |
| 07:55.13 | dodgizzla | ZealotOnAStick: Ring of Fire :> |
| 07:55.14 | Arrowmaster | has nothing to do with spammers |
| 07:55.25 | [Ammo] | ZealotOnAStick: I'm am the god of hell fire! .... |
| 07:55.32 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 07:55.36 | AnduinLothar | plz no |
| 07:55.47 | [Ammo] | hey, it's appropriate! |
| 07:55.59 | [Ammo] | or just do 'twinkle twinkle little star' |
| 07:56.18 | AnduinLothar | Made for TV Movie |
| 07:56.18 | wmealing | I find the blizz stats sites, to be lacking. |
| 07:56.33 | Parak | Arrowmaster: wasn't there an addon that plays music from outside of wow |
| 07:56.36 | wmealing | Arrowmaster, so why.. would they stop it ? |
| 07:57.06 | dodgizzla | wmealing: Too much automating is no good |
| 07:57.08 | Arrowmaster | Parak: that just used a builtin function that plays sound files |
| 07:57.22 | Arrowmaster | no communication there |
| 07:57.30 | [Ammo] | and requires you to restart WoW if you want to add extra files to the sound folder |
| 07:57.40 | [Ammo] | since anything not there when wow starts -> byebye |
| 07:58.09 | wmealing | dodgizzla, ah because it would be using the service i payed for.. right .. right. |
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| 07:59.03 | Arrowmaster | the addon enviroment is a controlled enviroment, so anything goes thats doable |
| 07:59.28 | dodgizzla | wmealing: It would be using the service in ways they did not intent it |
| 07:59.29 | Arrowmaster | everything outside of the addon enviroment is just not allowed |
| 07:59.44 | dodgizzla | Man what is up with those WAU updates galore :o |
| 07:59.47 | wmealing | dodgizzla, playing a warrior and winning is what blizzard did not intend, yet people do it. |
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| 08:00.17 | Arrowmaster | and its a lot easyer to detect the difference between the two than to try to find out if addons are doing what want them to be able to do and no do what you dont want them to be able to do |
| 08:00.38 | dodgizzla | wmealing: Communicating with the outside world is what Blizzard did not want and therefore you will never be able to do so |
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| 08:00.49 | wmealing | i think the glidebot guys showed that isnt true. |
| 08:00.53 | wmealing | but that -is- hacking |
| 08:00.56 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:00.56 | wmealing | and doing something wrong. |
| 08:01.02 | dodgizzla | If you find a way it will be considered against the EULA and there goes you're account |
| 08:01.07 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt use the addon enviroment at all |
| 08:01.32 | Arrowmaster | and blizzard can tell who uses it and does ban their accounts |
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| 08:02.00 | Arrowmaster | ive had former guildmates get baned for it |
| 08:02.18 | Arrowmaster | we told them to fuckoff when they bought new accounts |
| 08:03.54 | AnduinLothar | ZealotOnAStick: Made for TV Movie (Incubus) + Rogues (Incubus) + Assassin (Muse) |
| 08:04.11 | Codayus | I had a guild master get banned for RMT. |
| 08:05.07 | Codayus | Was kinda weird. |
| 08:05.12 | wmealing | what is RMT ? |
| 08:05.21 | Codayus | Real Money Transaction. Sorry. |
| 08:05.23 | AnduinLothar | possibly cut Made for tv and put The Gloaming (Raidiohead) at the end |
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| 08:05.50 | Codayus | As in, gold buying/selling. More FFXI slang than WoW slang, possibly. |
| 08:05.55 | wmealing | ok |
| 08:06.12 | wmealing | either way, bliz should provide some kind of sane API for people to query information about wow.. and no the armory doesnt count. |
| 08:06.17 | wmealing | thanks for your help guys |
| 08:06.43 | Codayus | wmealing: It's been said before. Doubt it'll change. |
| 08:06.54 | Arrowmaster | it did sorta change |
| 08:07.03 | Arrowmaster | they added support for the g15 keyboard |
| 08:07.30 | Codayus | Although for what its worth, I think I agree. I used to play Anarchy Online, and that let you chat on guild chat from outside the game. Was nice. |
| 08:07.58 | Arrowmaster | AO's chat system was perty cool |
| 08:08.22 | wmealing | alternatively, i could write something client side and parse the chat log |
| 08:08.28 | Codayus | And then there were IRC gateways, and bots, and complex DKP systems interfacing with websites, and, well, the whole nine yards, really. |
| 08:08.40 | xystic | Is anyone here familiar with Pantera, the C++ WoW server clone project ? |
| 08:08.41 | [Ammo] | chatlog is only written on reloadUI or game logout/exit |
| 08:08.45 | wmealing | oh darn |
| 08:09.03 | [Ammo] | xystic: this is not the channel for that kind of crap |
| 08:09.11 | Arrowmaster | and reloadui is a protected function |
| 08:09.14 | Codayus | wmealing: Now, I believe that reloading the UI is not protected, so you could just reload th UI every 5 minutes or whatever. The issues are... |
| 08:09.17 | wmealing | heh |
| 08:09.20 | Codayus | 1) OMG LAG. |
| 08:09.26 | wmealing | 2) not going afk :) |
| 08:09.31 | cryogen | 3) ... |
| 08:09.31 | Codayus | 2) Violates the spirit if not the letter of the rules. |
| 08:09.32 | Arrowmaster | reloadui requires a hardware event |
| 08:09.32 | cryogen | 4) profit |
| 08:09.41 | Codayus | 3) ...damn. |
| 08:10.01 | Codayus | Okay, that'd violate the letter too. Nevermind. :-) |
| 08:10.26 | cryogen | the fact that addons cant get live information from the game is no accident |
| 08:10.29 | wmealing | ok, home tiem |
| 08:10.30 | wmealing | time |
| 08:10.32 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lettersnshityo.JPG <-So guess what microsoft is hiding? :P |
| 08:10.32 | cryogen | you'd have to force a policy change |
| 08:11.29 | Codayus | I do sometimes wonder what Bliz's reasoning is for how locked down the system is. Just to prevent botting? |
| 08:11.50 | Fisker- | Pretty much just to ensure that WoW is WoW and nothing else |
| 08:11.54 | [Ammo] | well, you could have one button wonders earlier |
| 08:12.07 | [Ammo] | mash the button and you're a hero |
| 08:12.16 | [Ammo] | but communication is mainly locked down for botting |
| 08:12.34 | Jaxon | Because as soon as you can get information out of the game, you can get it into the game just as easily. |
| 08:12.39 | Codayus | I used to have an auto-target/cast/cancel heal macro. Was kinda nice for boring pug UBRS runs... :-/ |
| 08:12.56 | Arrowmaster | really you can still send commands to wow from programs but it makes it a lot harder to bot if you cant get data from wow easyly |
| 08:13.13 | cryogen | Arrowmaster: that's detectable though |
| 08:13.17 | Fisker- | Well technically you can get data from WoW pretty easy |
| 08:13.23 | [Ammo] | colored pixel communication |
| 08:13.24 | Codayus | Jaxon: Yes. But for everything I run across, it just doesn't seem like it'd be a problem. ...then again, I've never tried to bot. |
| 08:13.30 | cryogen | if you start letting legitmate addons do it, detecting and preventing bottings becomes a whole lot harder |
| 08:13.33 | Arrowmaster | they dont ban people for using g15 keyboards |
| 08:13.35 | [Ammo] | some N pixel topleft of screen |
| 08:13.38 | Fisker- | and reading memory isn't what's easily detectable, writing memory is what is |
| 08:13.39 | cryogen | and you risk innocent people getting caught up in it |
| 08:13.40 | [Ammo] | sending info through color encoding |
| 08:13.44 | [Ammo] | and just read the screen |
| 08:13.49 | [Ammo] | voila, info from wow -> outside |
| 08:13.51 | Jaxon | Codayus: me neither, but I have been banned for it. |
| 08:13.53 | Arrowmaster | theres ways of sending commands to wow that they will not ban for |
| 08:14.02 | [Ammo] | it's not easy, but hey, if you can fraps you can read those pixels |
| 08:14.04 | Codayus | Jaxon: Hm? |
| 08:14.31 | Jaxon | Codayus: along with a bunch of other cedega users (dirty hacking linux gamers), we got banned for botting, later reversed. |
| 08:14.38 | Codayus | Ah, right. |
| 08:14.42 | art3mis | there was an autoit command color bot |
| 08:14.54 | art3mis | still owkr s prolly |
| 08:14.54 | Arrowmaster | theres still autoit fishbots |
| 08:15.02 | art3mis | yeah i made one |
| 08:15.06 | art3mis | works great |
| 08:15.15 | Fisker- | but linux users are dirty hackers |
| 08:15.17 | Codayus | You know, it wouldn't be *THAT* hard to write a "hardware" bot. |
| 08:15.19 | art3mis | but the follow bot was ingenious |
| 08:15.27 | Fisker- | always ruining the game for everyone else :( |
| 08:15.49 | art3mis | all it did was interpret a write to the screen for a color and did something based on that colour |
| 08:15.49 | Codayus | Video out on the WoW machine -> Video in on the bot machine. Reverse for the keyboard and mouse. |
| 08:15.52 | Codayus | :-) |
| 08:16.03 | Arrowmaster | Codayus: too complex |
| 08:16.14 | Codayus | But doable. Theoretically. :-) |
| 08:16.39 | Arrowmaster | you could easyly just write your own mouse and keyboard drivers that dont actually have a hardware component |
| 08:16.47 | Codayus | Well, yeah. |
| 08:17.01 | Codayus | Although that's theoretically detectable by Warden? |
| 08:17.11 | Arrowmaster | but as it becomes more populare and more people use it then they would catch on that those devices that look like hardware devices are for botting |
| 08:17.40 | cryogen | a lot of botters arent caught for the programs they use though |
| 08:17.48 | cryogen | they're caught because they are blatently obviously bots |
| 08:17.58 | Codayus | Mmm. True. |
| 08:18.04 | cryogen | it's not real hard to notice them, really :) |
| 08:18.17 | Codayus | I ran into an obvious bot in arathi highlands... |
| 08:18.24 | cryogen | warden is just there as a deterrant and to stop mass botting |
| 08:18.35 | cryogen | those who want to bot will do it |
| 08:18.40 | Fisker- | Blizzard does update warden to find the botters |
| 08:18.41 | Codayus | It was attempting to play a hunter, badly. I got it killed a few times, then reported it. |
| 08:18.46 | Arrowmaster | warden picks up on the widescale usage bots |
| 08:18.59 | [Ammo] | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Which-Cable.aspx |
| 08:19.06 | Jaxon | I think Blizzard's thing with botting, is wipe out thousands at a time instead of one or two, that way you give the developers less to work with when someone IS banned. |
| 08:19.08 | Fisker- | When they do their massive ban waves people doesn't even play at the moment, and sometimes they haven't played for quite a while either |
| 08:19.12 | cryogen | you just need to go to the birds in hellfire to see bots |
| 08:19.28 | Fisker- | I'm almost 100% sure that they silently update warden, warden detects botters, keeps a list, and at a set time it bans everyone |
| 08:19.30 | cryogen | or the dragons in burning steppes |
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| 08:19.41 | Codayus | Ah? |
| 08:19.44 | Fisker- | A GM is then tasked with a mass response to all bots, and disconnect the remaining online botters |
| 08:19.44 | Codayus | Hmm, haven't noticed. |
| 08:19.47 | Codayus | Why birds in hellfire? |
| 08:20.15 | cryogen | Fisker-: they typically monitor botters accounts to find the account chains and stuff, for the hardcore goldsellers anyway |
| 08:20.20 | cryogen | Codayus: fast respawns and lots of them |
| 08:20.35 | Fisker- | goldsellers don't use botters anyways |
| 08:20.38 | Fisker- | atleast not as much |
| 08:20.47 | Arrowmaster | wonder how often they die to the fel reavers |
| 08:21.08 | art3mis | bahahahaha |
| 08:21.14 | art3mis | http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-exploits/26850-netherwings-neutral-exalted-1day-more-then-10-daily-quests-day.html |
| 08:21.18 | Fisker- | well technically they can extract from the client any and all objects in the AOI |
| 08:21.47 | Fisker- | it's old though art3mis |
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| 08:21.54 | Fisker- | and it's probably VERY MUCH detectable |
| 08:21.58 | phyber | KarlThePagan: pong |
| 08:22.16 | cryogen | the bots ive seen attack back when you attack them too |
| 08:22.24 | cryogen | only auto attack and raptor strike though :) |
| 08:23.09 | Fisker- | they are usually built for that yeah |
| 08:23.09 | Fisker- | but they'll only win against a n00b not doing anything and the n00b is level 1 |
| 08:23.27 | Fisker- | It was so funny against bots :P |
| 08:23.35 | Fisker- | Because you used the servants from blasted lands |
| 08:23.39 | Fisker- | they were "invulnerable" |
| 08:24.02 | Arrowmaster | they leashed those finally didnt they? |
| 08:24.13 | Jaxon | Finally. |
| 08:24.15 | Fisker- | what happened to babble? |
| 08:24.19 | Fisker- | Arrowmaster doesn't matter |
| 08:24.26 | Fisker- | the exploit made them permanent pets |
| 08:24.39 | Fisker- | had them for 2 whole weeks |
| 08:24.44 | Arrowmaster | ive heard the one boss that summons infernals used to be fun to pull places |
| 08:24.55 | Fisker- | barely dared go online in fear of getting reported :( |
| 08:25.02 | art3mis | hehe yeah she is |
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| 08:25.47 | art3mis | im kind of ssad they started making the guards not help you |
| 08:26.02 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if they ever put a leash on azuregous |
| 08:26.04 | art3mis | although taking down the roaming felreaver in hellfire is fun |
| 08:26.05 | theoddone33 | wait... permanent pets? |
| 08:26.14 | theoddone33 | you tamed blasted lands guys somehow?? |
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| 08:26.16 | art3mis | tag him and run to the group of mages |
| 08:26.27 | Arrowmaster | our server crashed once when the top raiding guild got bored and pulled azuregos to orgrimmar |
| 08:26.29 | art3mis | he lasts about 30 seconds ;OP |
| 08:26.43 | art3mis | hehe kazzak on our server ended up in stormwind |
| 08:26.51 | theoddone33 | one of my favorite videos is when nurfed stole a thunderaan summon and kited him to org |
| 08:26.52 | art3mis | fangtooth had to come and reset him ;P |
| 08:27.28 | Arrowmaster | theoddone33: one of the old warlocks on my server did that on test realm i think |
| 08:27.32 | art3mis | we got emeriss to the org bridge before he lost interest |
| 08:27.45 | Jaxon | My own success was Dr Weavil to org. |
| 08:27.51 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:27.51 | Jaxon | Yeah, server restart. |
| 08:27.52 | art3mis | who? |
| 08:27.57 | AnduinLothar | it's too bad you can't kick through black rock mountain |
| 08:28.02 | theoddone33 | isn't he on that island? |
| 08:28.06 | AnduinLothar | kite* |
| 08:28.09 | Jaxon | theoddone33: yup yup. |
| 08:28.13 | theoddone33 | nice |
| 08:28.19 | art3mis | dr.weavil? |
| 08:28.25 | AnduinLothar | i got 2 servants to blackrock and they wouldn't go over the doorstep at the top |
| 08:28.28 | theoddone33 | weavil was part of the gate quest |
| 08:28.31 | Jaxon | art3mis: mob for the AQ opening quest chain. |
| 08:28.31 | theoddone33 | he's on alcaz isle |
| 08:28.33 | art3mis | ahh |
| 08:28.37 | Jaxon | He has a nasty mind contorl |
| 08:28.42 | art3mis | OH |
| 08:28.44 | art3mis | that guy |
| 08:28.44 | Arrowmaster | AnduinLothar: ive seen servants in undercity before |
| 08:28.53 | theoddone33 | there was a point in time where people were pulling dragons from ashenvale into org weekly |
| 08:29.13 | art3mis | heh we actually had it as a hunter req. |
| 08:29.16 | Arrowmaster | weekly? we had a hunter that did it daily |
| 08:29.18 | art3mis | pull 3 greenies to org |
| 08:29.35 | art3mis | so the fuckers could learn how to keep the dragons in bwl under control ;P |
| 08:29.55 | Arrowmaster | later find out one of the pallys in my guild was actually the hunter everybody hated for doing that everyday |
| 08:30.23 | Arrowmaster | says its no fun anymore, he does too much damage to them before they get to org |
| 08:30.23 | Fisker- | I remember when i did that servant exploit |
| 08:30.29 | Jaxon | I also managed Terminus The Devourer to Undercity, that took a long fucking time and was right before maintainence so didn't cause much trouble :( |
| 08:30.31 | nevcairiel | anyone in a horde high-end raiding guild here? |
| 08:30.31 | Jaxon | Now he is leashed :( |
| 08:30.41 | Fisker- | I was almost kicked from the guild cause they said "omg i can exploit world bosses" |
| 08:30.47 | theoddone33 | that's a long way |
| 08:30.51 | Fisker- | Well sure if i have several years at my disposal |
| 08:30.54 | Jaxon | nevcairiel: we went into TK today, high end enough for you? |
| 08:31.11 | nevcairiel | Jaxon: hm maybe, do you use elemental shamans in your raids? |
| 08:31.13 | Fisker- | level 63 mobs reduced the servants damage so much it was 1 per hit |
| 08:31.16 | Fisker- | and i had 3 servants |
| 08:31.24 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: they pwn in boosting melee dps |
| 08:31.26 | Fisker- | So all in all i could do 3 damage per hit :P |
| 08:31.32 | Jaxon | nevcairiel: we have one, when he shows up |
| 08:31.40 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: nah thats melee shamans :P |
| 08:31.43 | Fisker- | I'd like to see that take down a green dragon within a week |
| 08:32.22 | [Ammo] | it's mainly the totems |
| 08:32.29 | [Ammo] | who cares about what else they do :p |
| 08:32.35 | [Ammo] | enchancement wahtever :) |
| 08:32.40 | Arrowmaster | Jaxon: when you got weavil to org, did the guards attack him? |
| 08:32.42 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41734 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: |
| 08:32.42 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 08:32.42 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:32.45 | [Ammo] | but we only have a few resto's atm |
| 08:33.07 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: after five minutes of lag, I got disconnected, I know people were logging in and dying within seconds because of the adds and the mincontrol |
| 08:33.14 | nevcairiel | well its the question if a rogue more does more dmg then a enhancement (even with boost to other rogues) .. same for elemental on casters .. |
| 08:33.27 | Arrowmaster | im going to have to try that someday |
| 08:33.56 | [Ammo] | I like the 100 spelldamage totem |
| 08:33.59 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41735 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Winterchill.lua: |
| 08:33.59 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 08:33.59 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:33.59 | [Ammo] | but other than that shrug |
| 08:34.12 | Fisker- | sylvanaar you there? |
| 08:34.20 | [Ammo] | then again alliance, so we're used to play without shamans |
| 08:34.32 | [Ammo] | first hydross kill was without as well |
| 08:34.43 | Jaxon | nevcairiel: our Elemental Shaman gets grouped with the mages because they are the most lacking class on our DPS meters on average. |
| 08:34.45 | Arrowmaster | im a horde caster, used to without shamans too |
| 08:35.07 | nevcairiel | we are alliance as well, so i am interested how/if horde guilds use them :P |
| 08:35.14 | Arrowmaster | used to have one |
| 08:35.24 | Arrowmaster | then he speced resto and gquit |
| 08:35.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:35.46 | theoddone33 | not sure what difference spec makes if you're talking about melee support |
| 08:36.05 | nevcairiel | our only resto shaman sucks .. well granted, most alliance shamans only play shaman since BC |
| 08:36.23 | nevcairiel | not much horde shamans did switch to alliance and bring their knowledge .P |
| 08:36.29 | Arrowmaster | i saw a pally ask for an innervate today.... |
| 08:36.35 | theoddone33 | not all of them have learned to drop grounding totems in pvp yet |
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| 08:37.07 | Jaxon | theoddone33: Unleashed Fury for Enhancement Shamans is the big difference between Enhancement and a restoration/elemental in a melee group. |
| 08:37.20 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 08:37.23 | cryogen | dotn forget improved totems, windfury/agi |
| 08:37.27 | cryogen | those make a difference too |
| 08:37.35 | Tupsi | morning |
| 08:37.36 | Jaxon | One or the other, usually Windfury if it is a melee DPS group. |
| 08:37.45 | theoddone33 | well I've heard enhancement isn't a particularly helpful spec |
| 08:37.51 | theoddone33 | I mean other than the support |
| 08:38.03 | Tupsi | anyone else working on the gnome besides rabbit? |
| 08:38.11 | Arrowmaster | warriors want windfury, hunters want agi, rogues will take either but most prefer agi |
| 08:38.14 | nevcairiel | our enhancement doesnt do useful dps, and we are not sure that the boost to the other dps is worth it |
| 08:38.38 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 08:38.42 | theoddone33 | that's kinda what I was getting at |
| 08:38.58 | nevcairiel | plus on trash he usually just dies from over aggroing |
| 08:39.01 | Jaxon | We bring one to our raids and he gets put in with 3 rogues and a warrior. He does okay DPS, but the boost to the other DPS is insane. |
| 08:39.10 | Fisker- | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 08:39.13 | purl | sylvanaar is currently on #wowi-lounge (13h 10m 51s) #wowace (13h 10m 51s). Has said a total of 51 messages. Is idling for 2h 48m 37s, last said: 'pastamancer thats the truth'. |
| 08:39.13 | theoddone33 | I wonder if you'd be better off with a resto shaman dropping totems and just eat the difference between the specs |
| 08:39.13 | Arrowmaster | good enchancement shamans also pull aggro like a mofo and die all the time |
| 08:39.20 | Fisker- | :z |
| 08:39.21 | AnduinLothar | yeah i get like 200 dps from windfury |
| 08:39.36 | xt | Arrowmaster: how are they good if they die all the time? |
| 08:39.38 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: good enhancement shamans don't die. |
| 08:39.58 | Arrowmaster | by good i ment high dps |
| 08:40.00 | nevcairiel | enhancement is limited by aggro, since the lack of any aggro dump |
| 08:40.11 | nevcairiel | so they cant really get to the dps values of a rogue |
| 08:40.31 | AnduinLothar | have him heal :) |
| 08:40.33 | theoddone33 | now you guys are making me want to pve :( |
| 08:40.49 | Arrowmaster | we've been having rogues near the top of the charts on many hours of morogrim attempts |
| 08:41.04 | Jaxon | I know we have a combat sword rogue that breaks 3500 AP when he is buffed and fighting with an enhancement shaman in hisgroup. |
| 08:41.05 | nevcairiel | rogues are the dps at this time |
| 08:41.13 | Arrowmaster | rogue dps is sick when they dont have to worry about aggro |
| 08:41.43 | Wobin | I need a good rogue build |
| 08:41.48 | Wobin | actually I need better weapons =P |
| 08:41.57 | xt | nevcairiel: Warlocks are the dps. |
| 08:41.59 | theoddone33 | I want to go combat |
| 08:42.02 | theoddone33 | but all I have is daggers |
| 08:42.13 | Arrowmaster | combat daggers is really good |
| 08:42.13 | theoddone33 | and I don't want to go combat daggers |
| 08:42.14 | Wobin | Yeah, I can't go daggers |
| 08:42.20 | Wobin | well |
| 08:42.21 | nevcairiel | xt: no, rogues top them |
| 08:42.32 | Jaxon | Wobin: what kind of spec do you want? |
| 08:42.35 | Wobin | I could, but if I go daggers, it's all the backstabbing etc etc |
| 08:42.43 | theoddone33 | ugh stupid stealth trolls in org |
| 08:42.46 | theoddone33 | freaked me out just now |
| 08:42.46 | Wobin | and I don't have the latency to take best advantage of that |
| 08:42.54 | xt | nevcairiel: how much dps does your rogues do? :D |
| 08:42.59 | Wobin | Jaxon: Swords or maces |
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| 08:43.03 | xt | surely more than ours it seems |
| 08:43.11 | Jaxon | PvE centric or PvP or mixed bag? |
| 08:43.16 | Wobin | PvE |
| 08:43.32 | nevcairiel | xt: dunno about the exact dps values, but on SWS they are always on top on most fights .. except its a melee-unfriendly fight :P |
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| 08:43.55 | nevcairiel | but yeah, warlocks are pretty close |
| 08:44.38 | xt | doesnt happen here :D |
| 08:44.43 | xt | nothing can touch locks |
| 08:45.17 | Iceroth | our locks are nublets, they are never even near the top |
| 08:45.37 | nevcairiel | like 80% of our hunters are nublets |
| 08:45.45 | nevcairiel | one hunter manages to be good on dps |
| 08:45.47 | nevcairiel | all other suck |
| 08:47.14 | AnduinLothar | i dunno how he was doing it but we had one hunter at 800 dps on mag |
| 08:48.10 | AnduinLothar | next bellow was a rogue at 650 |
| 08:48.27 | xt | 800 ? |
| 08:48.29 | xt | :( |
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| 08:49.12 | Wobin | 800 sustained? |
| 08:49.16 | Wobin | that's ... scary |
| 08:49.20 | AnduinLothar | it's an 11 min fight |
| 08:49.28 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41737 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: fire event instead of scheduling function to scan bags so CrowBar can listen to it |
| 08:49.35 | Wobin | actually... not really, I guess |
| 08:49.40 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r41738 10Baggins/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:49.40 | CIA-22 | Baggins: Removed Sieve, merged back into Baggins in preparation to overhaul filtering. |
| 08:49.40 | CIA-22 | Added Gem Sack to item sub types, added frFR translation for Gem Sack and Mining Sack |
| 08:49.41 | _icetrai1 | nothing really |
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| 08:50.00 | AnduinLothar | i was only at 500. but i was pretty proud of that |
| 08:50.10 | Iceroth | our mm hunter pushes over 800, our rogues are closer to 1k |
| 08:50.13 | AnduinLothar | since iw as sitting at 1% mana half the fight |
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| 08:50.36 | AnduinLothar | what kinda gear? serpantshrine? |
| 08:50.38 | _icetrain | i have done over 1k on mag.. and dont have uber gear |
| 08:50.43 | _icetrain | (hunter) |
| 08:50.48 | Iceroth | no, we just killed 1st boss in ssc |
| 08:50.50 | xt | http://paparazzi.h4x.no/wws/wws-20070621-1954/ |
| 08:50.52 | xt | That's DPS |
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| 08:51.05 | ShockOrion | mathagradon? |
| 08:51.15 | nevcairiel | only 650 for rogues? |
| 08:51.20 | nevcairiel | our rogues do 1k+ |
| 08:51.29 | Tupsi | ~seen Rabbit |
| 08:51.32 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 671d 9h 21m 30s ago, saying: '+in'. |
| 08:51.32 | Jaxon | Your rogues are slacking :P |
| 08:51.32 | Punkie` | look at the boss nev |
| 08:51.34 | AnduinLothar | it wa sour first mag kill |
| 08:51.40 | nevcairiel | oh alar |
| 08:51.43 | nevcairiel | well ok :P |
| 08:51.47 | Punkie` | ;) |
| 08:51.47 | Tupsi | uhh, ok thats never .) |
| 08:51.49 | AnduinLothar | only in kz gear |
| 08:52.07 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r41740 10Baggins_GarbageFu/Baggins_GarbageFu.lua: Baggins_GarbageFu: Updated for Changes in Baggins r41738 |
| 08:52.27 | Punkie` | [Ammo] constantly lives in the shadow of my DPS, bless him :( |
| 08:52.57 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r41741 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.lua: Baggins_ItemRack: Updated for Changes in Baggins r41738 |
| 08:53.35 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r41742 10Baggins_Outfitter/Baggins_Outfitter.lua: Baggins_Outfitter: Updated for Changes in Baggins r41738 |
| 08:53.47 | cryogen | i really need to sit down and figure out how to use baggins |
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| 08:53.55 | Jaxon | Wobin: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053201050400000000003203052001050150023210510000000000000000000000 Swords, to switch to maces, you can drop weapon expertise. There is some filler in combat though. |
| 08:53.58 | cryogen | ive wanted to be able to hide my cloestgnome sets for ages but havent got around to it :) |
| 08:54.09 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r41743 10Baggins_Usable/Baggins_Usable.lua: Baggins_Usable: Updated for Changes in Baggins r41738 |
| 08:54.34 | Nargiddley | i'm hoping to get the category/bag editing rewritten sometime soon (few weeks maybe :/) |
| 08:55.03 | Wobin | Jaxon: hm, no riposte? |
| 08:55.23 | Jaxon | Wobin: if you are getting hit by trash/bosses, you aren't living long enough to parry. |
| 08:55.33 | Wobin | hehe |
| 08:55.39 | Wobin | true, but I have to get to 70 first =) |
| 08:55.42 | Jaxon | Unless this isn't a raiding rogue. I assumed when you said PvE you meant 10 mans. |
| 08:55.55 | Jaxon | Oh, levelling, RIposte is amazing. Its almost SS damage but for 10 energy. |
| 08:55.56 | Wobin | not a raiding rogue quite yet, he's only 66 |
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| 08:57.23 | Flaubert | hello =) |
| 08:58.20 | Flaubert | is there someone not afk? *g* |
| 08:58.49 | Wobin | "Blade Twisting" - How useless is this talent? =) |
| 08:58.50 | ShockOrion | lol - dual monitors ftw, im always afk |
| 08:59.04 | Flaubert | ah i see |
| 08:59.16 | Flaubert | i wondered if i might find a little bit of help here =) |
| 08:59.17 | AnduinLothar | same |
| 08:59.20 | AnduinLothar | i'm nto here |
| 08:59.33 | Jaxon | Wobin: I left some room for stuff, but for levelling, the improved poison talent is awesome |
| 08:59.53 | Jaxon | wobin: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0253000000000000000003200550100050150023210510000000000000000000000 |
| 09:00.01 | Wobin | yeah =) I'm forever spending melee time waiting for deadly poison to stack =) |
| 09:00.12 | Jaxon | If you are questing, Deadly isn't worth it. |
| 09:00.30 | Wobin | instant? |
| 09:00.34 | Jaxon | Yeah. |
| 09:01.21 | ShockOrion | whats ur question flaubert-- if u wait for a pause u'll never see it :D |
| 09:01.25 | Flaubert | maybe someone knows if there is a way to get a macro in wow to start over after its done the written job? |
| 09:01.34 | Punkie` | man, just go mutilate - it totally owns! |
| 09:01.44 | Jaxon | Flaubert: each execute of the macro requires one hardware input. |
| 09:02.03 | Flaubert | figured that =( |
| 09:02.12 | Wobin | Punkie`: Daggers isn't really worth it for me |
| 09:02.13 | ShockOrion | buttonsmash = loop effect :D |
| 09:02.16 | Flaubert | maybe there is a way arround this crappy solution with a lua file? |
| 09:02.31 | Jaxon | Flaubert: no, scripting can't emulate hardware events. |
| 09:02.49 | Iceroth | well depends on what you want to do with your macro |
| 09:02.58 | Kirkburn | VolumeFu needs a Sound Effects toggle |
| 09:03.03 | Jaxon | Wobin: actually, when I hit 70, I couldn't get any instance drops for weapons so I eventually broke down and bought two Ced's Carvers (specced Mutilate) and did that until I got some good fists. |
| 09:03.35 | Wobin | Jaxon: I'd <3 some nice fists =) |
| 09:03.38 | Wobin | just cause they're cool |
| 09:03.43 | Flaubert | i play hunter and i try to use the steady shoot in combination with an autoshoot say for a duration of 1 minute w/o my need to press the stupid button every 2 sec |
| 09:04.10 | Jaxon | Flaubert: you need to hit a key for every cast of steady shot. |
| 09:04.15 | Flaubert | and excuse my crappy english it aint my nature kanguage =) |
| 09:04.33 | Jaxon | Wobin: my alt http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Deathwing&n=Maniac Lots of easy to get quest/instance gear there. |
| 09:04.40 | Flaubert | what do i need a macro for than jaxon? i mean thats exactly what i do w/o the macro |
| 09:04.55 | Wobin | Flaubert: well, you don't need the macro =) |
| 09:04.58 | Jaxon | Flaubert: you don't need a macro for that. None of the "steady shot macros" do anything |
| 09:05.23 | Flaubert | i see |
| 09:05.41 | Flaubert | is there a way where an addon can call on a skill in wow? |
| 09:05.52 | ShockOrion | only with a hardware event |
| 09:06.14 | Wobin | Jaxon: Still useing Bladefist's Breadth? =) |
| 09:06.27 | Flaubert | one hardware event or multiple? |
| 09:06.39 | ShockOrion | one hardware event, one spell |
| 09:06.50 | ShockOrion | technicly |
| 09:06.50 | theoddone33 | I liked my retainer's blade better than this unenchanted huge arena offhand :( |
| 09:07.19 | Flaubert | mhm the lua files do know such events as loop or end/home no? |
| 09:07.21 | ShockOrion | you can do a instant cast spell infrunt of a casted one |
| 09:07.44 | Jaxon | Wobin: hoping for an abacus from Mech. Not going to bother with heroics to get the Bloodlust Brooch since it is just an alt. |
| 09:07.45 | kbh | depends on the instance |
| 09:07.54 | kbh | err instant cast |
| 09:08.07 | ShockOrion | Flaubert: wow api = what blizard gives us to play with |
| 09:08.40 | Flaubert | ah.. so the wow api doesnt fesature the loop command of the lua programming? |
| 09:08.46 | Jaxon | Wobin: I'd say, get as much +hit as you can, to increase your combat potency procs. |
| 09:08.48 | Flaubert | feature* |
| 09:09.05 | ShockOrion | Flaubert: yes it does but not for spell casting |
| 09:09.17 | Jaxon | Flaubert: it does, it understands all the lua stuff, but within the game, we are limited to one hardware event per ability (and certain other things too) |
| 09:09.27 | Flaubert | i see |
| 09:10.25 | ShockOrion | been that way sence pre 1.9 when i join'ed the game ... iirc |
| 09:10.27 | Flaubert | is it possible maybe to expand a macro so you can have more than 255 chars in it? |
| 09:10.52 | ShockOrion | ya |
| 09:11.08 | ShockOrion | bit harder now but doable |
| 09:11.10 | Flaubert | and how shockorion? =) |
| 09:11.32 | ShockOrion | ah -- ive been called on it, im not a programer per-say |
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| 09:11.59 | kbh | cant you have a macro call on another macro |
| 09:12.12 | Jaxon | Kind of, but you have to refer to it by button. |
| 09:12.12 | kbh | so just chain em up |
| 09:12.12 | ShockOrion | i more just understand what's been written but couldn't code for the life of me, i mostly read the docs, and sorta obsorbe the info there. |
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| 09:12.42 | Flaubert | mhm |
| 09:12.52 | kbh | break up a big macro into various utility |
| 09:13.00 | Flaubert | sorry if i am hard understanding |
| 09:13.08 | Jaxon | Flaubert: what are you trying to accomplish? I play a hunte,r perhaps I've stumbled accross a solution already |
| 09:13.09 | kbh | and call and press each button based on if/dos n such |
| 09:13.16 | Flaubert | if i have lets say 5 makros calling everytime a cast |
| 09:13.18 | syeren | Anyone use Cowtip here? |
| 09:13.32 | Flaubert | and than have an upper macro calling the 5 makros one by one |
| 09:13.45 | Flaubert | will it than do 5 casts or will it stop after first? |
| 09:13.45 | ShockOrion | i do syeren |
| 09:14.03 | kbh | halt on a pop of global cooldown more or less |
| 09:14.15 | kbh | unless you're like /saying stuff or setting focus |
| 09:14.26 | kbh | that kinda stuff |
| 09:14.37 | Flaubert | well i could go arround the cooldown using chronos and the /in command... |
| 09:14.44 | ShockOrion | no |
| 09:15.09 | Nargiddley | Flaubert, its one spell cast per key press. No way around it. |
| 09:15.11 | ShockOrion | all spell casts require it comming from a SecureButton fo sorts |
| 09:15.13 | Jaxon | Nope. One keyboard press, one skill. |
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| 09:15.25 | Flaubert | damnit i hate blizz lol |
| 09:15.46 | ShockOrion | like you can do instants, IE , NatureSwiftness + Healing Touch Rk13 |
| 09:15.46 | Flaubert | whats the /stopcasting command than used for? |
| 09:16.08 | Nargiddley | ok to be more precise its one global cooldown per key press |
| 09:16.11 | ShockOrion | and in that macro u'd use the /stopcasting for |
| 09:16.35 | Nargiddley | you can do something like amp curse, curse of agony since amp doesnt trigger the global cooldown |
| 09:16.42 | Jaxon | Stopcasting will cancel a current spell cast and it will also disable autoattack. |
| 09:16.47 | Nargiddley | but you can never do CoA, corruption for example |
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| 09:17.08 | Flaubert | i got it now i think tho i dont like that news *g* |
| 09:17.12 | ShockOrion | Nargiddley: if ur CoA was instant you might be able to do it |
| 09:17.15 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.16 | syeren | ShockOrion, can you copy and paste your Target Line please if you use the default one? |
| 09:17.26 | syeren | I messed mine up by accident, and have no defaults to revert back to sorry. |
| 09:17.38 | ShockOrion | [IsUnit#player(mouseovertarget)?Text(<<You>>)] [SmartClass#mouseovertarget?ClassColor#mouseovertarget!NameRealm#mouseovertarget] |
| 09:17.40 | Flaubert | so with a macro i can call whatever skill which causes no global cooldown + 1 global cooldown skill but thats the maximum |
| 09:17.45 | Jaxon | ShockOrion: no, because CoA has a global cooldown. /stopcasting is only used to chain things that don't have a global cooldown. |
| 09:17.47 | Nargiddley | ShockOrion, no it still has the global cooldown and is always instant anyway |
| 09:18.08 | ShockOrion | i use NS + HTr13 all the time , and iirc NS is on the GCD |
| 09:18.17 | Nargiddley | no its not |
| 09:18.21 | cryogen | ns is very much not |
| 09:18.24 | cryogen | would suck if it was :) |
| 09:18.41 | ShockOrion | ::Poke self in eyeball:: |
| 09:18.44 | kbh | arent talented abilities generally not on GCD |
| 09:18.48 | ShockOrion | i haven't been resto for a while |
| 09:18.56 | kbh | or abilities that dont cost mana/rage/wahatever you have |
| 09:18.58 | cryogen | kbh: its more of a "depends what they do" |
| 09:19.14 | Iceroth | feral ff is on gcd :-/ |
| 09:19.15 | syeren | ShockOrion, thank you. |
| 09:19.16 | Nargiddley | modifying abilities generally arent on the gcd |
| 09:19.21 | cryogen | things like ns make no sense to be on gcd |
| 09:19.22 | Jaxon | Quick check, yup, every hunter talnted ability activates gcd |
| 09:19.32 | cryogen | since its making your spell instant, and adding 1.5s gcd would negate that |
| 09:19.59 | Flaubert | so whats with the pet kill command? thats instant with no GCD no? |
| 09:19.59 | kbh | does every hunter talented ability use mana? |
| 09:20.10 | Jaxon | Readiness doesn't? I think, let me check my talent screen |
| 09:20.20 | Jaxon | Nope, it doesn't. |
| 09:20.34 | Jaxon | Also, Beast Within just improves Beastial Wrath, so it isn't really an activated ability. |
| 09:20.40 | nevcairiel | its a what-they-do thing, not mana whatever :) |
| 09:21.01 | cryogen | its probably quite specifically on a spell-by-spell basis too |
| 09:21.07 | Flaubert | the beastmaster thing makes a GCD that i know for sure =( |
| 09:21.14 | Jaxon | Yup yup |
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| 09:21.47 | kbh | can an autoshot go off during GCD? |
| 09:21.54 | Flaubert | yes |
| 09:21.57 | kbh | nice! |
| 09:22.16 | ShockOrion | iirc autoshot has it's own timming based on weapon speed? |
| 09:22.21 | kbh | mm hmm |
| 09:22.21 | Jaxon | Yup |
| 09:22.25 | Flaubert | yup |
| 09:22.33 | cryogen | autoshot isnt a spell :) |
| 09:22.46 | Flaubert | autoshoot is being resetted to zero load by all other shoots beside the steady shoot tho |
| 09:23.04 | Jaxon | Flaubert: no, only Aimed Shot resets the AUtoshot timer. |
| 09:23.12 | kbh | poop! i miss the days of the ole aimedshot tuck |
| 09:23.22 | Flaubert | no jaxon |
| 09:23.34 | Flaubert | try arcane shoot as example |
| 09:23.39 | Jaxon | kbh: I do more damage with steady shot weaving than I ever did with aimed shot (crnuched thenumbers at 60) |
| 09:23.40 | Flaubert | resets the timer |
| 09:23.53 | kbh | my hunter is still level 60 :P |
| 09:24.11 | Jaxon | Flaubert: I can promise you that nothing but aimed shot resets the autoshot timer. |
| 09:24.12 | Flaubert | been changed with wow 2.0 version so that nearly every shoot resets the auto timer |
| 09:24.40 | ShockOrion | anyone have a clue why ExperianceFu dosn't have a profile option?? |
| 09:25.34 | Flaubert | jaxon: lemme put it this way: in the patchnotes blizzard tells that the shoots reset the autoshoot timer and this is written in about every wow book out there as well |
| 09:25.59 | Jaxon | Flaubert: please find it for me, because my game is broked then. |
| 09:28.38 | Jaxon | kbh: at lot of the PvE ranged weapons are quite fast and with quiver (and maybe serpent's swiftness) you might end up with bows/guns that fire faster than 2.0 seconds per autoshot, which makes it really difficult to weave steady shot without losing autoshot dps. |
| 09:29.37 | Flaubert | thats why i wanted a macro |
| 09:29.50 | Flaubert | especially with beastmastery skills you end up firing too fast |
| 09:30.21 | kbh | eh, dont play my hunter anymore |
| 09:30.36 | Jaxon | Flaubert: between multishot and arcane shot and serpent's swiftness, you don't end up with too many opportunities to use steady shot anyways so don't need any automation for it. |
| 09:30.42 | kbh | for the sheer dread of replaceing [purple] with [green] |
| 09:31.07 | Flaubert | ok i looked it up jaxon |
| 09:31.26 | Flaubert | cant find the BC patchnotes on europe site of wow |
| 09:31.48 | Flaubert | World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Official Strategy Guide from bradx games hunter section |
| 09:31.58 | art3mis | check yer wow dir btw |
| 09:31.59 | cryogen | they are hiding in the game guide section i believe |
| 09:32.05 | cryogen | they are more prominent on the US site |
| 09:32.12 | art3mis | the patch notes sometimes come packed as a handy dandy txt file |
| 09:32.27 | Jaxon | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch2p01.html |
| 09:32.49 | Flaubert | there they write that every shoot is resetting the time for autoshoot with BC patch since many ppl had troubles or where forced on extremly slow weapons to get an optimized shoot rotation |
| 09:33.33 | Jaxon | 1.12 the "Before the Storm" patch. |
| 09:33.52 | art3mis | # "Auto shot" is now reset when casting Aimed Shot. |
| 09:33.54 | ShockOrion | wow... im not in touch with my hunter ... i just now reilized what "shot rotation" ment ... >.> |
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| 09:35.45 | Flaubert | sorry misstyped it shock =) |
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| 09:40.58 | ShockOrion | ? |
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| 09:45.28 | abbat_w | Eisenschmiede is under attack |
| 09:55.03 | ShockOrion | hey anyone here play on crashridge |
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| 09:58.31 | Wobin | hm, whatever happened to imp sap? |
| 09:58.53 | nevcairiel | every rogue has imp sap now |
| 09:58.57 | Wobin | huh |
| 09:59.05 | Wobin | useful, I guess =p |
| 09:59.15 | kbh | so what does the talent do now |
| 09:59.22 | theoddone33 | increases the range of sap and blind |
| 09:59.23 | Jaxon | Increased range |
| 09:59.23 | nevcairiel | increase range of sap and blind |
| 09:59.27 | kbh | nice! |
| 09:59.30 | Jaxon | Lower energy cost too, doesn't it? |
| 09:59.31 | theoddone33 | eh |
| 09:59.32 | Wobin | It's called Dirty Deeds now |
| 09:59.38 | Wobin | er Tricks |
| 09:59.46 | Wobin | reduced by half |
| 09:59.47 | theoddone33 | yeah 50% energy |
| 09:59.49 | theoddone33 | that's not bad |
| 09:59.51 | cryogen | dirty deeds would have been funnier |
| 10:00.02 | cryogen | you could mistake it for a refernce to the common joke about sapping |
| 10:00.09 | theoddone33 | there's already a talent named dirty deeds |
| 10:00.16 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 10:01.08 | theoddone33 | the new talent isn't htat bad but I'm happy to have those two points freed up |
| 10:01.20 | theoddone33 | actually it frees up 7 points |
| 10:01.35 | nevcairiel | why did you spec that anyway? |
| 10:01.49 | theoddone33 | I picked it up along the way |
| 10:02.02 | theoddone33 | I actually switched from 41/0/20 to 41/20/0 before the change was announced |
| 10:02.23 | theoddone33 | but I was taking sub for a bunch of stupid reasons |
| 10:03.20 | theoddone33 | at least I wasn't shadowstep like every other rogue in my guild |
| 10:03.34 | nevcairiel | our rogues are all combat |
| 10:03.40 | nevcairiel | most dagger, some sword |
| 10:03.42 | ShockOrion | :D |
| 10:03.49 | theoddone33 | this was a pvp guild |
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| 10:03.54 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 10:04.01 | theoddone33 | shadowstep is a pretty weak pvp spec |
| 10:04.13 | theoddone33 | unless you weapon swap |
| 10:04.33 | Punkie` | it's just a spec to irritate other people |
| 10:04.43 | nevcairiel | shadowstep is like one burst and no sustained dps :P |
| 10:04.46 | theoddone33 | apparently it's fun to play |
| 10:04.59 | Punkie` | theoddone33: because it irriates other people :p |
| 10:05.24 | theoddone33 | they should actually make shadowstep a base rogue ability without the damage bonus |
| 10:05.32 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41745 10PlayerMenu/ (5 files): PlayerMenu: Yes, I am back. Update for 2.1 |
| 10:05.44 | theoddone33 | and make it usable from combat but not let it break snares |
| 10:05.49 | theoddone33 | or maybe I suck as a game designer |
| 10:06.02 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:06.05 | theoddone33 | the point is rogue mobility sucks and it makes rogues a bad pvp class |
| 10:06.10 | theoddone33 | in situations like 5v5 |
| 10:06.20 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 10:06.32 | Wobin | oh man Cloak of shadows |
| 10:06.52 | Orion | um... id say no .. ive had rogues manage a 4pt evis in less than 5 sec and hit for over 6k total |
| 10:06.55 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 10:06.56 | Orion | bad pvp class? |
| 10:07.00 | Fisker- | stop whining for fucks sake |
| 10:07.03 | theoddone33 | yeah it's hard to figure, even with something as OP as cloak the class still is one of the weakest 5v5 classes |
| 10:07.11 | theoddone33 | not whining |
| 10:07.12 | Orion | a |
| 10:07.15 | Fisker- | di.fm is pretty must sending some crap silent music because of royalties |
| 10:07.15 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 10:07.28 | Fisker- | now i have to hear local music, setup some playlists and what not |
| 10:07.35 | Jaxon | Fisker-: those royalties are a big deal. |
| 10:08.02 | Fisker- | Yeah, but i can't do shit about it :P |
| 10:08.04 | Wobin | hm |
| 10:08.23 | Wobin | is it worth having a weapon swapping macro or something to use ambush et al? |
| 10:08.41 | Jaxon | No, not with the global cooldown on changing weapons. |
| 10:08.48 | theoddone33 | pretty much only if you use shadowstep/hemo |
| 10:08.54 | theoddone33 | but it's a weird playstyle |
| 10:09.25 | Jaxon | Wobin: stick with cheapshot, more combo points, you take less damage. |
| 10:09.43 | Wobin | yeah, that's my SOP |
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| 10:09.57 | theoddone33 | ambush is for mages |
| 10:09.59 | theoddone33 | that's about it |
| 10:10.05 | theoddone33 | and anything you can burst down |
| 10:10.06 | sylvanaar | Fisker- did you need something?> |
| 10:10.20 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41747 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.toc: |
| 10:10.20 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 10:10.20 | CIA-22 | - added website metadata in TOC, |
| 10:10.20 | CIA-22 | - AddonLoader support. |
| 10:10.21 | Wobin | I notice that evisc is hardly worth it for me sometimes |
| 10:10.33 | theoddone33 | in what context? |
| 10:10.47 | Jaxon | Energy cost is too high for the damage, especially with talented sinister strikes |
| 10:10.56 | Wobin | It doesn't seem to do any damage worth writing home about |
| 10:11.10 | theoddone33 | 35 energy for 3kish damage on a crit? |
| 10:11.16 | Jaxon | 3k talented. |
| 10:11.19 | Jaxon | Against low armor |
| 10:11.22 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r41748 10CooldownCount/ (CooldownCount.toc Locale.zhCN.lua): CooldownCount: minor modified for zhCN locales |
| 10:11.30 | Jaxon | With a shitty crit rate for combat rogues. |
| 10:11.30 | theoddone33 | in pve you're better off with slice n dice most of the time |
| 10:11.41 | theoddone33 | pvp damage is damage |
| 10:11.55 | Wobin | oh man |
| 10:12.02 | Wobin | Cloak of shadows has a 1 minute cooldown |
| 10:12.23 | Wobin | Who -wouldn't- use it? |
| 10:12.26 | kbh | do netherweave nets work on a Cos'd rogue? |
| 10:12.39 | theoddone33 | probably |
| 10:12.50 | Fisker- | sylvanaar ! |
| 10:12.54 | Jaxon | theoddone33: I tend to kidney shot more than evis on my rogue, mostly to get people to blow their trinkets since I duo with a warlock |
| 10:12.57 | Wobin | it's not particularly a magic effect? |
| 10:13.03 | Fisker- | What's that backupxxx.xml in the addons dir you're making? |
| 10:13.21 | Wobin | PS, has anyone had any problems recently with 'esc' not closing certain windows? |
| 10:13.35 | Jaxon | Wobin: yes, social window yesterday |
| 10:13.38 | theoddone33 | I'm mutilate so I tend to build up combo points faster than the ks cooldown |
| 10:13.42 | Fisker- | Wobin, PinappleSpit? |
| 10:13.47 | Fisker- | +e |
| 10:13.48 | theoddone33 | so there's plenty to eviscerate over |
| 10:13.54 | Jaxon | theoddone33: then I'd be using Evenom. |
| 10:14.07 | Wobin | Anyone possibly know why? =) |
| 10:14.18 | theoddone33 | deadly is still sketchy in pvp |
| 10:14.32 | Jaxon | Not with Vile Poisons, which I'm sure you have being Mutilate, right? |
| 10:14.59 | theoddone33 | it's not the damage that makes it sketchy |
| 10:15.03 | theoddone33 | it's the dot |
| 10:15.43 | theoddone33 | I don't actually know if I have vile poisons, probably |
| 10:16.09 | Jaxon | Wound Poison has a DoT component, I'd use that in PvP. |
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| 10:16.23 | theoddone33 | it's an instant |
| 10:16.29 | Funkeh` | ello |
| 10:16.31 | Jaxon | But I don't see how you can't have Vile as Mutilate spec, there isn't that many things to throw talents in there though |
| 10:17.12 | theoddone33 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Alleria&n=Wonderdung |
| 10:17.20 | theoddone33 | I don't play my rogue a whole lot these days |
| 10:17.40 | theoddone33 | you're right though, mutilate specs are pretty straightforward |
| 10:18.16 | nevcairiel | hey Funkeh` |
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| 10:18.54 | theoddone33 | I'd love to finish up the earlier stuff though |
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| 10:19.06 | theoddone33 | murder, remorseless, and 1 in ruthlessness, that's 5 right there |
| 10:19.45 | sylvanaar | Fisker- ja, was ist los? |
| 10:19.51 | FISKER_Q | what does it do? :o |
| 10:21.07 | FISKER_Q | lol! |
| 10:21.21 | FISKER_Q | This Jedi Academy mod |
| 10:21.36 | FISKER_Q | they're distributing part 1 of the mod today, and the rest in a couple of weeks |
| 10:21.37 | FISKER_Q | i lol'd |
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| 10:30.08 | Funkeh` | KarlThePagan: hows progress going |
| 10:31.30 | AnduinLothar | he's prolly sleeping |
| 10:31.57 | AnduinLothar | since its 3am PDT |
| 10:32.06 | Funkeh` | slacker |
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| 10:32.35 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: Go make an addon! |
| 10:32.59 | Funkeh` | Punkie`: no, it might end up crappy like yours! |
| 10:33.22 | Punkie` | Mine rules! |
| 10:33.28 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:33.44 | Punkie` | you better be using it :( |
| 10:33.45 | [Ammo] | yours is only reasonably ok after I cleaned it up punkie |
| 10:34.13 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: you just wanted to take some of the awesome glory |
| 10:34.38 | [Ammo] | naah, I just saved you from deep deep embarassment |
| 10:34.49 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41750 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.xml: Threat-1.0: comment out the Reliquary of souls module to give the new code a chance to be tested |
| 10:35.43 | winkiller | sylvanaar: ping |
| 10:35.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+v clad|sleep] by ChanServ |
| 10:36.31 | cryogen | clad|sleep: if you arent actually asleep, any chance lightheaded could get the same frame level as the quest log? |
| 10:36.43 | clad|sleep | no |
| 10:36.52 | clad|sleep | it specifically has to be lower |
| 10:36.54 | Litvan | *yawns* morning ppl |
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| 10:37.25 | cryogen | hmm, i see |
| 10:37.31 | Punkie` | Surely it needs to slide behind the quest frame? |
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| 10:37.41 | cladhaire | cryogen: Any particular reason? |
| 10:37.41 | Litvan | *yawns* morning ppl |
| 10:37.42 | cryogen | i wonder if i can pursuade the thing that is getting in the way of it to go lower |
| 10:37.50 | cladhaire | i.e. what issue are you having? |
| 10:37.54 | cryogen | cladhaire: something is obscuring it |
| 10:38.00 | cryogen | i dont remember what, i think my unitframes |
| 10:38.12 | cladhaire | very odd |
| 10:38.18 | cladhaire | keep me informed of what you find out |
| 10:38.31 | cryogen | will do, i shall try to remember to look at it properly tonight |
| 10:38.49 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 10:38.50 | cryogen | its one of those things you notice while playing but are playing so dont look into, them remember the day after at work and go "oh yeah.. that.." |
| 10:39.05 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 10:39.16 | cladhaire | you may want to see if detaching works |
| 10:39.18 | cladhaire | in the meantime |
| 10:39.30 | cladhaire | that mkes it framestrata HIGH |
| 10:39.59 | cryogen | i just remember having to move the quest log so that it obscured the thing obscuring lightheaded |
| 10:40.03 | cryogen | (<3 fluidframes) |
| 10:40.08 | syeren | cladhaire, how come you lost your OP? |
| 10:40.12 | cladhaire | heh |
| 10:41.06 | cladhaire | syeren: I asked to have it removed, because someone was _boycotting_ the channel until it was removed. While I feel it was a completely childish thing to do, I don't care enough about it to fight for it, so I told Kaelten to remove it. |
| 10:41.18 | syeren | Oki :p |
| 10:41.40 | syeren | Any progress on Clique planned? (Although it doesn't need it.) |
| 10:41.58 | cladhaire | because, after all, its just a virtual chat room on a text based communication medium. I can't see why anything here is worth a boycott. *shrug* |
| 10:42.06 | cladhaire | syeren: Nothing at the moment, no. |
| 10:42.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Great, InFlight is broken |
| 10:42.29 | cladhaire | Some large (extremely) large life changes happening between today and through the rest of this week |
| 10:42.34 | yacoob | change name to NoLongerInFlight |
| 10:42.43 | cladhaire | Once those settle down, I'll have more brain capacity to work on my addons. |
| 10:42.48 | JoshBorke | morning claddy waddy |
| 10:43.07 | cladhaire | right now I'm finding it extremely difficult to focus on them, however |
| 10:43.09 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: morning. |
| 10:43.38 | Kirkburn|afk | It's preventing me from being able to fly :/ |
| 10:43.53 | cryogen | oops |
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| 10:44.23 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r41751 10MobHealth/locals.lua: |
| 10:44.23 | CIA-22 | MobHealth3: |
| 10:44.23 | CIA-22 | - deDE Update |
| 10:44.23 | Kirkburn|afk | totalpackage, where art thou |
| 10:44.58 | vrak | am i the only one getting errors with baggins now? |
| 10:45.22 | Kirkburn|afk | The FuBar plugin isn't resized properly on Baggins either |
| 10:45.38 | Nargiddley | vrak, if you just updated without restarting wow you'll have to do that |
| 10:45.59 | vrak | i've restarted it several times |
| 10:46.04 | syeren | Kirkburn|afk, it's been like that for a long time :p |
| 10:46.06 | Nargiddley | pastey the error |
| 10:46.06 | abbat_w | guys, are ckk maintain HonorFu? Or something else? |
| 10:46.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Was fine for me until the last update syeren :P |
| 10:46.21 | abbat_w | Want to ask about recolor rows in score table |
| 10:46.26 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: WAU 1.9.14 -> Only a minimized window now. Maximize or resize is not possible anymore. |
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| 10:46.36 | vrak | there's a bunch of them, i'll pastem all |
| 10:46.37 | Litvan | cck is sleeping atm I believe :) |
| 10:46.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Gandharva, have you tried right-clicking the taskbar? |
| 10:47.27 | Gandharva | Kirkburn|afk: Yes, with 1.9.13 this worked. But now nothing happens. |
| 10:47.37 | Nargiddley | vrak, also if you have any of the extra rule addons update those as well |
| 10:47.40 | Kirkburn|afk | ( #wau for WAU stuff btw ) |
| 10:48.02 | sylvanaar | Yes it does work - just fix it and exit |
| 10:48.03 | vrak | Nargiddley: i pretty much assume any addons installed via WAU is also updated |
| 10:48.37 | Fisker- | stupid internets |
| 10:48.39 | vrak | however, i'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'extra rule' |
| 10:48.46 | Fisker- | anyways sylvanaar what did you use the backup.xml's for? |
| 10:48.51 | Nargiddley | Baggins_ClosetGnome etc |
| 10:48.57 | Kirkburn|afk | (1.9.14 now btw, Gandharva) |
| 10:49.03 | Kirkburn|afk | oops |
| 10:49.14 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm like totally blind ;) |
| 10:49.20 | Gandharva | hehe |
| 10:50.01 | sylvanaar | Fisker- they have a snapshot of all your addon versions |
| 10:50.37 | Kirkburn|afk | oh, he's right! |
| 10:50.40 | Kirkburn|afk | I can't maximise |
| 10:50.45 | vrak | ah, well, they'd be updated by WAU too |
| 10:50.46 | vrak | anyway |
| 10:50.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Or minimise |
| 10:50.48 | vrak | http://pastey.net/67806 |
| 10:50.49 | sylvanaar | wtf |
| 10:51.01 | Kirkburn|afk | It just automatically returns |
| 10:51.13 | sylvanaar | i really hate MS |
| 10:51.41 | Kirkburn|afk | (as per Gandharva, 1.9.13 was okay) |
| 10:52.04 | Kirkburn|afk | freakeh |
| 10:52.25 | Gandharva | 1.9.13 wasn't OK. It was minimized to taskbar or maximized (per right click) |
| 10:52.31 | Fisker- | shouldn't you put them in the WAU dir instead |
| 10:52.38 | Fisker- | Remember that WoW will try load the files |
| 10:52.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Gandharva, I listed how to fix that in the thread |
| 10:53.00 | Kirkburn|afk | It's not the same bug as this, hence why I'm saying it was okay in this respect ;) |
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| 10:53.04 | Gandharva | I'll have a look |
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| 10:53.46 | Arjor | guys i have a question. does omen suppose to show class colors when solo or running the test bars or only in group play? |
| 10:53.55 | Kirkburn|afk | I guess I'm not using InFlight until totalpackage returns :/ |
| 10:54.07 | Funkeh` | returns? |
| 10:54.15 | Kirkburn|afk | ~seen totalpackage |
| 10:54.20 | purl | Kirkburn|afk: i haven't seen 'totalpackage' |
| 10:54.22 | Funkeh` | hes hardly ever on here |
| 10:54.25 | Nargiddley | vrak, all of those will be from Baggins-Filtering.lua not loading for some reason |
| 10:54.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Even better! |
| 10:55.10 | Nargiddley | vrak, are you sure you completely exited wow after the update ? |
| 10:55.33 | vrak | Nargiddley: quite sure, a reboot of win should take care of it |
| 10:55.41 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r41752 10InFlight_Load/InFlight_Load.lua: |
| 10:55.41 | CIA-22 | InFlight_Load |
| 10:55.41 | CIA-22 | - added workaround in case "InFlight" gets loaded too early |
| 10:55.47 | Gandharva | Kirkburn|afk: This "fix" worked with 1.9.13. But not with 1.9.14 |
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| 10:56.02 | Nargiddley | i'll check the zip that got build, something is going wrong :/ |
| 10:56.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Gandharva, not surprising |
| 10:56.38 | vrak | trying a complete reinstall of all my WAU installed addons now |
| 10:57.02 | Nargiddley | vrak, is there any error before all those. something in Baggins-Filtering.lua ? |
| 10:57.36 | Nargiddley | i bet theres a typo there from me adding some locaizations :/ |
| 10:57.39 | vrak | no |
| 10:57.50 | vrak | and actually, forcing the complete reinstall worked |
| 10:58.25 | Nargiddley | k |
| 10:58.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, seems that InFlight's update was for the issue I have - http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2529.msg114856#msg114856 |
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| 10:58.49 | Kirkburn|afk | (though I have the flight module of Quartz disabled) |
| 10:59.45 | sylvanaar | no it s a bug |
| 11:00.31 | Kirkburn|afk | @ me? |
| 11:01.27 | Litvan | ok.. this might spam.. though I'm not sure.. but have a rather long question |
| 11:01.39 | Litvan | would it require a major operation to add some sort of filtering to an addon that enables you to filter out certain things that the addon displays? |
| 11:01.41 | Litvan | I have this addon that tracks enchanting mats (inspiration from HerbTrackerFu) ... problem is.. I want to be able to see what enchanting mats my enchanter has available when I'm not logged on him (ok.. the addon does that) but the addon shows enchanting mats available on ALL chars I've enabled the addon for... |
| 11:01.43 | Litvan | so I'm thinking about if there's a way to filter out the other chars and only displaying my enchanting char... I'm thinking like filtering in TopScoreFu or similar |
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| 11:04.08 | Jaxon | I'd look for the part in the addon that displays the information and pattern match against your character name. |
| 11:04.12 | Jaxon | Its a hack, but it'll work |
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| 11:06.44 | Uhuru | hu |
| 11:06.46 | Uhuru | hi |
| 11:07.09 | Uhuru | the cartographer window flick infernally when i mouseover the minimap button |
| 11:09.35 | Litvan | Jaxon : you can see these screens of what I mean... initial (working fine) http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4017/initialaw5.jpg - when enabled on another char http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8287/1morecharlh7.jpg |
| 11:11.59 | Litvan | I just want it to display the mats on "Litvak" .. not Litvan or any other char I have.. which it will in its current state.. it'll list enchanting mats on all chars I enable the addon for |
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| 11:13.39 | Jaxon | Litvan: the easiest way would be to disable the addon for the characters that you don't want to track |
| 11:13.53 | Jaxon | That wayit never gets loaded and they never get addded into the Svs |
| 11:14.46 | sylvanaar | use a loadmanager ^.^ |
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| 11:15.57 | Litvan | I know.. but I want to be able to see what mats I have on my enchanting char when I'm playing another char... |
| 11:16.51 | Litvan | so that I don't have to relog to check if I actually have this and that mats that someone might need |
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| 11:18.04 | Litvan | like.. Char1 is the enchanter.. and I'm currently playing on Char5.. I want to play char5 and still see what Char1 has of enchanting mats.. but not having it displaying mats on char5 |
| 11:19.49 | Litvan | or I might choose the easy way and write-protecting the db file (will prolly get a bug doing that) so that it can't add the rest of chars |
| 11:21.44 | Jaxon | Then it won't add any updates to the current character's inventory |
| 11:21.54 | Jaxon | I'd just find the function that writes the stuff to the tooltip |
| 11:22.22 | Jaxon | And force it to break early if the character isn't the one you want to see |
| 11:23.58 | Litvan | well... I have no knowledge of how to do that :) I basically took addonx.. and copied it to addony.. and replaced the things addonx was tracking to enchanting mats for addony |
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| 11:24.28 | Litvan | homebrewed fiddlin |
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| 11:36.27 | phyber | was there a patch for the US today? the forums seem to have people complaining about stuff after some update/patch, but I can't see what update/patch they mean. |
| 11:36.47 | Jaxon | US is still up |
| 11:37.06 | dodgizzla | Litvan: Probably you could use Sanity and tag all enchanting stuff and just select that character |
| 11:37.30 | dodgizzla | Maybe you can directly search for PT3 categories, but I don't know if that's possible or if there even are categories for enchanting :D |
| 11:38.41 | sbu | dodgizzla: did you try sanity(bags)? ;o |
| 11:39.12 | dodgizzla | sbu: Can they show the contents of a character you're not logged on with? |
| 11:39.21 | sbu | i have no idea :) |
| 11:39.30 | kbh | regular sanity works for that |
| 11:39.30 | dodgizzla | I did try them, but only for like 5 minutes because I like to organize my bags myself :D |
| 11:39.53 | dodgizzla | kbh: Yeah I know, but can you filter e.g. only consumeables or enchanting mats? |
| 11:40.05 | kbh | they have to be tagged that way, but yes |
| 11:40.07 | dodgizzla | I know there is a search :D |
| 11:40.21 | dodgizzla | kbh: I see, that's what I thought |
| 11:40.25 | sbu | waiting for more stable version - but antiarc is busy with other stuff ;) |
| 11:40.34 | kbh | there is a possibility of using the default tags too |
| 11:40.38 | dodgizzla | sbu: Yeah, Sanity is kinda buggy right now :D |
| 11:40.43 | Wobin | rofl |
| 11:40.48 | kbh | workin great for me at the moment |
| 11:40.50 | Wobin | New spec has added 150dps =) |
| 11:40.54 | Wobin | <3 Jaxon |
| 11:41.07 | Jaxon | Haha, cool, glad I could help :D |
| 11:41.31 | dodgizzla | kbh: With the latest revision there are at least 2 issues :D |
| 11:42.25 | kbh | must be with features i dont use :P |
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| 11:43.16 | dodgizzla | kbh: For one, it always "forgets" how many items I have in my bank when I zone. E.g. if I mouseover mana potions it only tells me there are X in my bags, but not that there are some more in my bank :D |
| 11:44.07 | dodgizzla | Also it does not merge items in the listing to one line, e.g. I got around 30 large prismatic shards but they are displayed on two line |
| 11:44.27 | dodgizzla | Minor annoyance anyway :D |
| 11:46.39 | Morghus | Hmm... WowAceUpdater's crashing nearly constantly lately. Anyone know what's up? |
| 11:47.28 | cryogen | latest version is just peachy here, you might want to provide more info(and do it in #wua) |
| 11:47.28 | Daemona | Morghus -> #wau ? |
| 11:47.42 | Morghus | Ah, thank you Daemona :) |
| 11:50.20 | Neebler | switch to JAceUpdater! |
| 11:50.45 | Neebler | err JWoWUpdater |
| 11:51.08 | Morghus | Hehe :) |
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| 12:00.09 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r41753 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/ (FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 12:00.09 | CIA-22 | FuBar_CraftTimersFu: |
| 12:00.09 | CIA-22 | - you can now reset a single timer or reset them all for a given character |
| 12:01.04 | sbu | is banzai's 'babe.wav' used in another addon? that 'aggro' sound |
| 12:03.02 | vhaarr | sbu: It could be, it's shared with SharedMedia. |
| 12:03.06 | vhaarr | but no, I don't think so. |
| 12:03.07 | vhaarr | Why? |
| 12:04.14 | sbu | well - my mt has some problems with that sound - it plays every time he has aggro (well - and since he is maintank... you know) |
| 12:04.20 | sbu | banzaialert not installed |
| 12:04.45 | sbu | he doesnt even have some 'wav' file in his addon folder |
| 12:04.46 | Lymmen | grid? |
| 12:04.58 | sbu | hm |
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| 12:09.33 | sbu | thank you Lymmen ;o |
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| 12:47.03 | pb_ee1 | If you had to develop an addon using Google Code _or_ Sourceforge, which one would you use? |
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| 12:51.52 | Fin | Google Code |
| 12:52.42 | pb_ee1 | Now the hard question: "why?" |
| 12:53.10 | ben | It's GOOGLE |
| 12:54.33 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 12:54.38 | Gnarfoz | what do you need sf.net for for an addon |
| 12:54.44 | Gnarfoz | kind of overkill? |
| 12:54.59 | pb_ee1 | Actually I don't want to code an addon but to develop a webiste |
| 12:55.09 | Gnarfoz | then don't use either oO |
| 12:55.15 | pb_ee1 | More precisely, it is _already_ coded but it needs a bit of improvements |
| 12:55.44 | pb_ee1 | And the code is made to be downloaded by users so that they can install the website on their servers |
| 12:55.51 | pb_ee1 | a bit like phpMyAdmin |
| 12:56.33 | pb_ee1 | So I have my own server to test, but i'd like to have a svn so i can easily update my code and make some releases |
| 12:56.54 | pb_ee1 | (The website is a roster that goes with LZProfiler, and Ace'd AddOn) |
| 12:57.24 | pb_ee1 | And I'm still asking myself which one I should choose: SF? GCode? |
| 12:58.07 | ben | Consider checking out the list of features of both |
| 12:58.35 | pb_ee1 | That's what I'm doing atm (reading both sites), but I was hoping that people around here could help me a bit ^_^ |
| 13:00.26 | Wobin | pb_ee1: ask some of the Dongle coders that use googlecode for their opinion on the services |
| 13:00.43 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 13:01.03 | pb_ee1 | Wobin: Actually I'm asking this because I've seen that Dongle uses Google Code |
| 13:01.22 | pb_ee1 | Wobin: Did you install a camera behind me? :p |
| 13:01.56 | Wobin | Don't mind the man behind the curtain. |
| 13:02.04 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 13:02.44 | sylvanaar | google code is like a minimalistic sourceforge |
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| 13:03.07 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Better for small projects then? |
| 13:03.21 | pb_ee1 | If it is, then I've got a reason to choose GCode instead of SF |
| 13:03.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Wobin, tis "Wizard of Oz: Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." :) |
| 13:04.05 | sylvanaar | depends on if you need the stuff it leaves out |
| 13:04.17 | pb_ee1 | Which is? |
| 13:04.34 | Kirkburn|afk | It doesn't make you coffee |
| 13:04.35 | pb_ee1 | (You can answer: Google is your friend, I won't be upset :p |
| 13:04.36 | Wobin | Kirkburn|afk: I was (goddamn livejournal has corrupted me) ... cough... metaquoting that line =P |
| 13:04.49 | Kirkburn|afk | ~lart Wobin |
| 13:04.49 | purl | shoves a crumpet down Wobin's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 13:04.55 | Wobin | oh man. Jam |
| 13:04.58 | Wobin | And tea? |
| 13:05.03 | Wobin | do they have a flag? |
| 13:05.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Anthrax jam, sorry |
| 13:05.18 | Kirkburn|afk | And cyanide tea. |
| 13:06.26 | Wobin | i've spent a lifetime building up an immunity to Iocai...cyanide |
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| 13:06.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, I added syphillis powder to it. |
| 13:07.03 | Wobin | How many sylphs died to make that powder? |
| 13:07.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Fifty three |
| 13:07.23 | Wobin | You have strange hobbies, my friend |
| 13:07.50 | Kirkburn|afk | You have strange immunities, my fiend |
| 13:08.36 | sylvanaar | you should look yourself, google doesnt have a shell account, and what it does have has very few features beyond what you see. |
| 13:09.32 | Wobin | night all |
| 13:09.54 | sylvanaar | if you dont see anything missing right away you probably dont need it |
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| 13:13.31 | Wobin | damnit |
| 13:13.33 | Wobin | Paraphrasing |
| 13:13.38 | Wobin | that's the word I was after =P |
| 13:13.50 | Josh_Borke | plagiarism? |
| 13:14.01 | Wobin | re: Man behind the curtain comment earlier |
| 13:14.31 | Wobin | definitely sleep time |
| 13:15.38 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r41754 10XRS/ (6 files): |
| 13:15.38 | CIA-22 | XRS: |
| 13:15.38 | CIA-22 | - using embeds.xml now |
| 13:15.38 | CIA-22 | - some performance optimizations |
| 13:15.38 | CIA-22 | - a color gradient can now be defined as the background |
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| 13:21.27 | nekoh | bah.. i need some code, that strips itemlinks and colors from a given text. there must be an addon, that already implemented this, where i can steal some code -.- |
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| 13:29.48 | copystring__ | anyone knows if its possible to move single players of pitbulls party interface? only get the whole group moving... |
| 13:29.52 | Gnarfoz | ~seen trh |
| 13:29.56 | purl | trh <n=hmmm@e179205045.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 11m 58s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 13:30.21 | steev64 | <3 shaman |
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| 13:33.00 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r41755 10Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0.lua: |
| 13:33.00 | CIA-22 | Auction-1.0: |
| 13:33.00 | CIA-22 | - save the AuctionAddon that is set, when upgrading the lib during activation |
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| 13:37.35 | Fisker- | so wuts this? |
| 13:38.19 | Trancer | auction-1.0? a new auctioneer in the making? |
| 13:39.14 | [Ammo] | naah it's some kind of lib that can get item auction info from different sources |
| 13:39.19 | [Ammo] | auctioneer, itemprice, kcitems etc |
| 13:40.30 | Trancer | ah |
| 13:40.38 | Trancer | someone should rewrite auctioneer ^^ |
| 13:40.47 | steev64 | to do what? |
| 13:40.48 | haste | they are |
| 13:40.48 | Trancer | or well modifiy it not be such a memory hog ;-) |
| 13:41.05 | Gnarfoz | /exec lint Auctioneer\* |
| 13:41.30 | haste | Trancer: http://norganna.blog.greatdarkplanet.org/2007/03/16/auctioneer-50-advanced-statistics-engine/ |
| 13:41.45 | Trancer | I miss a mass auctionposting addon, it's the only reason I use auctioneer, kcitems can't do it either |
| 13:41.54 | Trancer | thanks haste |
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| 13:42.55 | cryogen | i have an addon that remembers the last price i put something on for, which is useful, dont remember what it's called |
| 13:43.18 | clad|work | the default UI does that now |
| 13:43.21 | clad|work | you may not have one =) |
| 13:43.34 | Trancer | hehe, the joelonsoftware topic amuses me ;) |
| 13:43.38 | cryogen | it does? o_O |
| 13:43.45 | clad|work | yep |
| 13:43.46 | Trancer | cryogen: yeah |
| 13:43.51 | Trancer | cryogen: but it means you still have to split stacks |
| 13:43.57 | clad|work | yep |
| 13:44.05 | clad|work | and if you put up something in a 20 stack |
| 13:44.10 | Trancer | say.. I want to post arcane dust, 20 times 1, I need to split it and drag it in .. horribly annoying |
| 13:44.10 | clad|work | a 19 stack won't recall the price and adjust |
| 13:44.14 | clad|work | which is sad |
| 13:44.17 | cryogen | maybe i should uninstall whichever addon it is i think does it then :) |
| 13:46.27 | Gnarfoz | Fence perhaps? |
| 13:46.33 | Gnarfoz | or Auctioneer itself ^^ |
| 13:46.44 | [Ammo] | with the new price remembering I have no use for auctioneer anymore |
| 13:47.15 | [Ammo] | although I could arguably make some more money by playing the AH |
| 13:47.24 | steev64 | btmscan ftw |
| 13:47.50 | Gnarfoz | if you were using Auctioneer for the price remembering, that was quite some overkill^^ |
| 13:48.10 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:48.11 | Trancer | [Ammo]: mass posting half stacks is annoying |
| 13:48.15 | Trancer | [Ammo]: or just mass posting stacks in general |
| 13:48.16 | Fisker- | so that was over 100 years ago haste |
| 13:48.31 | cryogen | hmm i cant find the addon in my list now.. |
| 13:48.36 | cryogen | could have sworn i read it somewhere |
| 13:48.52 | [Ammo] | I only post full stacks shrug |
| 13:48.59 | [Ammo] | and I do the AH thing once a week or so |
| 13:49.00 | Trancer | hehe |
| 13:49.08 | [Ammo] | I don't play that much |
| 13:49.10 | Trancer | I make truckloads of money by massposting arcane dust in 'stacks' of 1 |
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| 13:49.22 | [Ammo] | I keep al my arcane dust |
| 13:49.23 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 13:49.25 | Trancer | I just flood 100x 1 AD on the AH, they sell |
| 13:49.28 | Jagobah | I wish there was a way to manually update the tattle armory data D: |
| 13:49.29 | alext | been using kc_items its lookin good |
| 13:49.31 | Trancer | oh, I just buy up all 65+ stuff below 5g |
| 13:49.34 | alext | looks like the ace2 branch is live now? |
| 13:49.44 | cryogen | i am far too lazy to play the ah |
| 13:49.47 | vhaarr | moonsorrow: your XRS commit is bugged |
| 13:49.51 | Trancer | 65-67 max 4.5, 67+ = 5g |
| 13:49.54 | cryogen | whenever i sell stuff there i just undercut everyone so it sells fast :p |
| 13:50.04 | vhaarr | moonsorrow: bucket events need to be reference-equal for registering and unregistering |
| 13:50.08 | Trancer | they always dis into 3 or more dusts.. which is 6g75s minimal per item |
| 13:50.28 | Trancer | assuming you are not unlucky with stupid greater planar essences |
| 13:50.47 | Jagobah | I always thought greater planars were somewhat valuable |
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| 13:53.14 | cryogen | Trancer: hmm your server must be cheap, the last stack of 20 dust i sold went for 50g, and that was undercutting the cheapest by about 3-4g |
| 13:53.33 | moonsorrow | vhaarr: oh right |
| 13:53.46 | Trancer | cryogen: they go for 2.3g each here, stacks for 40-45g |
| 13:53.55 | Trancer | and yeah, it's quite populated (with farmbots) |
| 13:54.09 | cryogen | seems i didnt come off too badly then with my lazyness :) |
| 13:55.24 | moonsorrow | vhaarr: wouldn't it make more sense if aceevent checks for content equality here? |
| 13:59.34 | vhaarr | moonsorrow: maybe, but it would also be slower |
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| 13:59.47 | vhaarr | there's no problem making it reference-equal in your code anyway |
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| 14:00.08 | moonsorrow | sure, just wondered why it's checking for the same reference |
| 14:00.09 | PHL-Chuck | anyone know if quartz swing can be setup to work with druids? doesnt by default |
| 14:06.10 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r41756 10XRS/XRS.lua: |
| 14:06.10 | CIA-22 | XRS: |
| 14:06.10 | CIA-22 | - changed (un-)registering of bucketed events |
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| 14:23.29 | Gnarfoz | ~seen trh |
| 14:23.31 | purl | trh <n=hmmm@e179205045.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 5m 33s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 14:24.08 | Gnarfoz | yay, wowhead back up |
| 14:24.14 | Fisker- | yay |
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| 14:24.15 | Gnarfoz | or rather, just the webserver |
| 14:24.17 | Gnarfoz | db down |
| 14:24.58 | Fisker- | db is up for me |
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| 14:26.58 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 14:27.09 | Gnarfoz | perhaps they're setting up on new servers/loadbalancing |
| 14:27.15 | Gnarfoz | because now the entire page is down again for me ^^ |
| 14:28.38 | Mikk | [Ammo]: I think I got vio profiles to work last night. There's bound to be _something_ not taking effect like it should on profile switch, but I think I've got all the common use cases down. |
| 14:28.57 | Mikk | Import of old db.char stuff should work also |
| 14:31.04 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo * r41757 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:31.04 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_NoteTarget |
| 14:31.04 | CIA-22 | - import |
| 14:31.45 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: the fubar plugin lost it's settings for me (at least it was showing text again, which was disabled) |
| 14:31.51 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ckknight |
| 14:31.53 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 51m 27s ago, saying: 'fine, I'll look into it'. |
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| 14:33.55 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo * r41758 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/libs/: |
| 14:33.55 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_NoteTarget |
| 14:33.55 | CIA-22 | - set externals |
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| 14:34.05 | Gnarfoz | ~botmail ckknight CowTip's (or DogTag's?) DifficultyColor is not working (most current rev's of both) (tag is either ignored or does nothing, text stays whatever color it was, i.e. [Red][DifficultyColor] gives red text) |
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| 14:34.35 | Gnarfoz | hrm, does botmail work from channels? |
| 14:34.39 | Mikk | yes |
| 14:34.52 | Gnarfoz | alright, because in PMs, purl says he'll tell whoever |
| 14:34.52 | Mikk | i think you got the syntax wrong tho |
| 14:35.04 | abbat_w | it's dogtag |
| 14:35.05 | Mikk | ~botmail for Gnarfoz: blah blah |
| 14:35.09 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 14:35.15 | abbat_w | ~botmail for Gnarfoz: blah blah-2 |
| 14:35.20 | abbat_w | =) |
| 14:35.23 | abbat_w | working ;) |
| 14:35.40 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo * r41759 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/ (4 files): |
| 14:35.40 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_NoteTarget |
| 14:35.40 | CIA-22 | - set Id property |
| 14:35.45 | Gnarfoz | ~botmail for ckknight CowTip's (or DogTag's?) DifficultyColor is not working (most current rev's of both) (tag is either ignored or does nothing, text stays whatever color it was, i.e. [Red][DifficultyColor] gives red text) (also, abbat_w suggests it is dogtag) |
| 14:35.51 | Gnarfoz | ah ok :) |
| 14:36.07 | Gnarfoz | does wowhead have an IRC channel? |
| 14:36.23 | Mikk | some of em hang out in #wowwiki |
| 14:36.29 | abbat_w | But it is not a bug i think |
| 14:36.29 | sbu | hmm void reaver is easy, right? :p |
| 14:37.04 | Gagorian | Well lets say the trash before void reaver is harder than himself |
| 14:37.05 | GnancyWK | its a dps/aggro check but yes |
| 14:37.14 | vhaarr | sbu: we killed him on our second try ever |
| 14:37.19 | sbu | hmhm |
| 14:37.21 | GnancyWK | same here vhaarr |
| 14:37.24 | sbu | aggro check? meh |
| 14:37.40 | vhaarr | it's a l2p check |
| 14:37.51 | abbat_w | I think ckk realise tag's logic in dogtag and tags works in this logic |
| 14:38.03 | GnancyWK | its ubrs check |
| 14:38.06 | GnancyWK | :P |
| 14:38.24 | Gnarfoz | abbat_w: so? how does that make it not a bug? :) |
| 14:38.28 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41760 10Ace2/: |
| 14:38.28 | CIA-22 | Branching off to: |
| 14:38.28 | CIA-22 | - Make multilevel passing groups work in AceConsole / AceOptions |
| 14:38.28 | CIA-22 | - Add a "delete profile" to AceDB |
| 14:38.51 | [DiE]Celeb | VR is like gruul without shatters... dodge the balls and enjoy your loot |
| 14:39.02 | [DiE]Celeb | just don't have any retards :p |
| 14:39.06 | sbu | vhaarr: is omen reliable there? |
| 14:39.09 | abbat_w | Gnarfoz, i mean if you have own tag processing logic for this case you just can describe for ckk |
| 14:39.10 | Megalon | if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball! |
| 14:39.45 | Gnarfoz | abbat_w: huh? :D not understanding what you're trying to say |
| 14:40.00 | abbat_w | ah, sorry. my english terrible |
| 14:40.06 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41761 10Ace2/: Removed file/folder: Shit, I branched Ace1 |
| 14:40.10 | vhaarr | sbu: I never use threat meters, I don't know |
| 14:40.19 | sbu | oh hm |
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| 14:40.50 | cncfanatics | hello all :) |
| 14:40.57 | cncfanatics | anyone good at making GUIs with waterfall ? :p I suck at it |
| 14:41.07 | abbat_w | yep |
| 14:41.09 | abbat_w | Sole ;) |
| 14:41.22 | Josh_Borke | mikk: you're branching Ace2? o.O |
| 14:41.39 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Yeah, just to add some stuff so someone can merge back in |
| 14:41.47 | Mikk | Since I can't commit to trunk/Ace2 |
| 14:42.01 | vhaarr | (and also so we can get it tested before merging it back) |
| 14:42.05 | vhaarr | ahem |
| 14:42.06 | Mikk | that too =) |
| 14:42.11 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 14:43.22 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41762 10Ace2/: |
| 14:43.22 | CIA-22 | Branching to get some work done: |
| 14:43.22 | CIA-22 | - Multilevel passing groups in AceConsole/AceOptions |
| 14:43.22 | CIA-22 | - "Delete profile" in AceDB |
| 14:44.08 | Fisker- | but it's homemad |
| 14:44.09 | Fisker- | e |
| 14:44.45 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: what is this testing you speak of? |
| 14:45.42 | Mikk | It is what happens when we commit stuff to the SVN and 100k+ users run WAU |
| 14:45.42 | vhaarr | this concept of 'testing' confuses and infuriates me! |
| 14:46.02 | Josh_Borke | mikk: lies! |
| 14:46.09 | Mikk | orly? =) |
| 14:46.33 | Zicon | Pfff. Testing is for wusses. |
| 14:46.42 | Josh_Borke | mikk: see AceEvent and AceComm changes ;-P |
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| 14:48.33 | sbu | mhhhm |
| 14:48.59 | sbu | vhaarr: is it possible w/ only 1 prottank 1 furytank 1 tankdruid? :o |
| 14:49.14 | vhaarr | sbu: you should have 4 tanks, but it's -possible- with 3 |
| 14:49.37 | vhaarr | just have to be even more careful with aggro, I guess |
| 14:50.39 | sbu | mhhhm |
| 14:50.44 | sbu | okay i think its tidewalker time then... |
| 14:50.48 | sbu | 4 rogues, 3 tanks :/ |
| 14:51.20 | Fisker- | manlove! |
| 14:51.28 | Fisker- | what do you need more than 2 tanks for? |
| 14:51.40 | Saroz | what are we talking about? |
| 14:51.51 | Saroz | Fisker-, fathomlord |
| 14:52.05 | Saroz | maggy |
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| 14:52.45 | Fisker- | Saroz probably the guy 2 lines above me |
| 14:52.47 | Fisker- | tsk. |
| 14:52.58 | sbu | Fisker-: voidreaver? :o |
| 14:53.06 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 14:53.16 | sbu | hmm? |
| 14:53.23 | Chompers | we're going to have a look at voidreaver soon |
| 14:53.37 | Saroz | he's piss |
| 14:53.40 | Chompers | tell me moar |
| 14:53.41 | Fisker- | just saying you don't need more than 2 tanks on morogrim |
| 14:53.45 | Chompers | MOAR |
| 14:53.46 | Saroz | everyone is getting T5 shoulders now |
| 14:53.48 | Fisker- | NO |
| 14:53.49 | Fisker- | GTFO |
| 14:53.57 | Saroz | You need 1 on morogrim |
| 14:54.15 | sbu | Fisker-: yeah right, but point is "we need to go to tidewalker since we dont have enough tanks for void reaver" :/ |
| 14:54.18 | sbu | *stab* |
| 14:54.19 | Saroz | prob. the only fight in SSC where you need 1 tank, well lurker, but |
| 14:54.23 | sbu | go, bubble! |
| 14:54.36 | Fisker- | oh sbu |
| 14:54.42 | Fisker- | Thought you only needed 1 tank for void reaver btw |
| 14:54.46 | Saroz | nah |
| 14:54.47 | Fisker- | so wtf r u talking bout? |
| 14:54.48 | Saroz | need 3+ |
| 14:54.50 | Fisker- | why? |
| 14:55.00 | vhaarr | aggro dump |
| 14:55.10 | Fisker- | oh u |
| 14:55.33 | Fisker- | I think that guild i know doesn't even use more than 1 tank |
| 14:56.14 | Saroz | bullshit |
| 14:56.17 | sbu | kungen solo VR? :/ |
| 14:56.31 | Tornhoof | you need two for lurker, one might be a bit work |
| 14:56.39 | Saroz | we used 1 |
| 14:56.52 | Saroz | VR's aggro dumb is pretty large, so you can't do it with 1 tank before enrage |
| 14:56.54 | Saroz | for sure |
| 14:57.25 | durcyn | you can use one for lurker if he stays in the water full time |
| 14:57.33 | Saroz | Tornhoof, actually we used 2, for adds, 1 MT |
| 14:57.46 | Tornhoof | yeh as soon as the mt gets kicked |
| 14:57.55 | Tornhoof | it might get fugly with one tank only |
| 14:57.57 | durcyn | mt doesn't get punted if he's swimming :) |
| 14:57.57 | Saroz | thats np |
| 14:58.05 | Saroz | we had 1 tank on lurker himself |
| 14:58.07 | Saroz | was zero problems |
| 14:58.17 | Saroz | durcyn?` |
| 14:58.20 | Saroz | underwater tanking? |
| 14:58.25 | durcyn | aye. it works. |
| 14:58.32 | Saroz | LMFAO |
| 14:58.34 | Tornhoof | yeh it does |
| 14:58.36 | Saroz | wow |
| 14:58.38 | Chompers | what happens when your tank gets knocked back? |
| 14:58.39 | Saroz | gonna try that next time |
| 14:59.02 | Saroz | well knockback is np anyway, but still |
| 14:59.04 | sbu | Chompers: melee dies |
| 14:59.06 | sbu | :o |
| 14:59.12 | Chompers | exactly |
| 14:59.14 | Saroz | nah, tank against pillar |
| 14:59.18 | Saroz | it's np |
| 14:59.19 | Chompers | so how does Saroz do it with one |
| 14:59.37 | Tornhoof | pillar is out of melee range |
| 14:59.41 | Saroz | run back |
| 14:59.44 | Saroz | it's not far |
| 14:59.44 | Tornhoof | atleast for non tauren models |
| 14:59.45 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 14:59.50 | Tornhoof | it certainly works |
| 14:59.55 | Tornhoof | but it's risky i'd say |
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| 15:00.08 | Saroz | maybe, well if you have two prot warrs, no reason not to I guess |
| 15:00.38 | Mikk | if your MT has his back against the pillar, maybe you can do with a ferlol offtank even |
| 15:00.43 | Mikk | since he can stay closer to the MT's threat |
| 15:01.04 | durcyn | still, being submerged takes knockback out of the equation |
| 15:01.14 | Saroz | had no idea that worked |
| 15:01.17 | durcyn | it's even more laughable when you have paladins remove the debuff with shield, then sit in the water healing |
| 15:01.23 | Fisker- | Anyone remember(and got a link) to drysc's post where he made a huge ascii art of him self? |
| 15:01.24 | Saroz | submerged in the inner pool? |
| 15:01.29 | durcyn | yep, saroz |
| 15:01.39 | Saroz | heh |
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| 15:01.50 | Tornhoof | we tried that for melee in the inner pool |
| 15:01.53 | durcyn | you can iceblock/divineshield/cloak-of-win out of the scalding water |
| 15:01.53 | Tornhoof | during spout |
| 15:02.02 | Saroz | LOS on healing would be a PITA |
| 15:02.05 | Chompers | what about cleave Tornhoof? |
| 15:02.15 | Saroz | scalding water is nothing man |
| 15:02.15 | Mikk | mobs no longer cleave out of their arse thank god |
| 15:02.27 | Saroz | 500/tick |
| 15:02.28 | Saroz | so easy |
| 15:02.38 | Saroz | fishes are mean |
| 15:02.40 | Tornhoof | chainheal works fine for that |
| 15:03.27 | Chompers | i got 3 vortexes last night, i REALLY want to go back to ssc :p |
| 15:03.57 | Saroz | ye, drops like flies |
| 15:03.58 | Chompers | i might try some of the things you guys have said |
| 15:04.00 | Saroz | so does patterns |
| 15:04.11 | Saroz | and marks |
| 15:04.12 | Saroz | ftrw |
| 15:04.12 | Chompers | no patterns so far, but only one night in there |
| 15:05.16 | durcyn | Tornhoof: eh, melee can run around like c'thun, keep hitting him during spout |
| 15:05.30 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 15:05.37 | Saroz | he has no enrage |
| 15:05.39 | Saroz | what's the problem |
| 15:05.41 | Saroz | dive bitches |
| 15:05.44 | Tornhoof | movement impaired ;) |
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| 15:05.54 | Tornhoof | they can't runn |
| 15:06.20 | Saroz | psssh |
| 15:06.21 | Saroz | l2p |
| 15:06.22 | durcyn | eh? strafe in circles around the bitch. it's not hard. |
| 15:06.32 | Tornhoof | yeh i know |
| 15:06.35 | Tornhoof | tell them |
| 15:06.36 | durcyn | lurker's like void reaver, free kill after annoying trash |
| 15:06.46 | Tornhoof | same with cthu |
| 15:06.47 | Tornhoof | n |
| 15:06.54 | Saroz | not really |
| 15:06.57 | deltron | my guild has issues with reaver :( |
| 15:07.01 | Tornhoof | the eye never looked at me ... |
| 15:07.02 | Saroz | cthun beam is 1000 times slower |
| 15:07.21 | Tornhoof | just jump into the water |
| 15:07.25 | Tornhoof | who cares about that dmg |
| 15:07.43 | Saroz | indeed |
| 15:08.04 | Chompers | 1k/2k damage is nothing really |
| 15:08.22 | Saroz | that reminds me |
| 15:08.29 | Saroz | nerf leo's fucking whirlwind dot |
| 15:08.34 | Saroz | fucking cock of a debuff |
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| 15:10.03 | sag_ich_nicht | iahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, bought Magicians Mantle yesterday for 1g sold it for 74 |
| 15:10.23 | Mikk | lol? |
| 15:10.32 | Mikk | some schmuck put it up with 1g min bid? |
| 15:10.38 | sag_ich_nicht | 1g buyout. |
| 15:10.44 | Mikk | O.O |
| 15:11.26 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i know |
| 15:11.27 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome :O |
| 15:12.04 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 15:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | wowhead is so slow |
| 15:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
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| 15:13.09 | vrak | it's stopped responding at all for me |
| 15:13.29 | sag_ich_nicht | same here |
| 15:13.35 | sag_ich_nicht | was slow a minute ago |
| 15:13.40 | sag_ich_nicht | now complete non-responsive |
| 15:14.27 | vrak | it's been like that for a day or more for me |
| 15:14.43 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r41763 10Grid/GridRange.lua: |
| 15:14.43 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 15:14.43 | CIA-22 | Range - Using IsSpellInRange doesn't work for dead players. Reschedule spellbook scanning for when the player is alive. |
| 15:15.10 | Kalman| | Server died/is dying, apparently. |
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| 15:15.40 | pastamancer | ^^ someone should test that commit for me. I'm at work |
| 15:16.08 | deltron | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/wowhead-down-implementing-gear-profiles/ |
| 15:16.09 | deltron | lol |
| 15:16.19 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41764 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 15:16.20 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0: |
| 15:16.20 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.20 | deltron | ruuuumors |
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| 15:18.56 | Fisker- | OH ZE LOLS |
| 15:19.03 | Fisker- | "omg fix this druid bug" |
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| 15:19.08 | Fisker- | me: it's not a druid bug. |
| 15:19.11 | vrak | i'd rather place my bet on them moving wh to other servers (and getting bitten in the ass by dear old murphy) |
| 15:19.17 | Fisker- | Gnome Mage: You're not a druid so you don't have a clue, retard |
| 15:19.23 | Fisker- | Me: err, you're not a druid? |
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| 15:20.18 | sylvanaar | vacation time - see ya'll laterz |
| 15:20.23 | Mikk | grats! |
| 15:21.48 | Mikk | start with buttfucking the LoadManager:Ace2 shit in the toc pl0x |
| 15:21.55 | Antiarc|Work | Morning folks |
| 15:22.06 | Mikk | Eya Antiarc |
| 15:22.10 | Chompers | hey Antiarc |
| 15:22.19 | Mikk | Is your nick just wrong or do you simply do most of your IRCing from work? =) |
| 15:22.38 | jme | <- does his ircing from work |
| 15:22.42 | jme | wow at home, irc at work :P |
| 15:22.47 | trh | you can work on a addon even if you're at home ;) |
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| 15:23.43 | Chompers | a |
| 15:23.46 | Chompers | oops |
| 15:23.57 | durcyn | ~lart Mikk |
| 15:23.57 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays Mikk in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
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| 15:25.57 | Antiarc|Work | I do plenty of IRCing at home :P |
| 15:26.06 | Antiarc|Work | I usually just idle in here to be available for issues when they arise. |
| 15:26.18 | Kalman| | He IRCs 24/7. It's sort of disturbing. :p |
| 15:26.21 | subsonic | wowace.com down? |
| 15:26.54 | subsonic | hmm, just slow |
| 15:28.01 | Chompers | he lurks here all day every day |
| 15:29.32 | art3mis | ~midnightbomber |
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| 15:31.21 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: If so... do fix Sanity :> |
| 15:31.43 | Antiarc|Work | I IRC from about 8:30 AM to 2 AM PST. :P |
| 15:31.45 | rubik | implementing gear profiles in wowhead would be beyond useless.. |
| 15:31.56 | GnancyWK | art3mis: what bombs at midnight? |
| 15:32.39 | Mikk | i'd love a sane "build your char" web UI where you get stat summaries and stuff |
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| 15:32.50 | Mikk | and preferably compare to other sets to see what results are |
| 15:33.04 | Mikk | i'm looking at a total gear remake for my tank ferlol set and it's just hurting my head |
| 15:33.17 | rubik | haha.. ferlol |
| 15:33.21 | Mikk | i need to sit down with excel or something and figure it all out, but i just keep putting it off |
| 15:33.33 | Mikk | rubik: haha? |
| 15:34.24 | rubik | just had never seen 'ferlol' and found it funny is all.. :P |
| 15:34.27 | Mikk | oh :P |
| 15:35.18 | Chompers | can Mongoose proc on two weapons? |
| 15:35.26 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 15:35.32 | Chompers | nerf |
| 15:35.50 | Gnarfoz | ~botmail for ckknight nevermind that one about DifficultyColor, it seems to work on hostile NPCs, but on noone else? oO :) |
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| 15:37.03 | art3mis | im the evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight,, heh heheheh yeah baby yeah! |
| 15:37.49 | Chompers | you do what? |
| 15:37.51 | mikma | midnight the horse in kara? |
| 15:38.05 | sbu | mikma \o/ |
| 15:38.17 | art3mis | the best evil bad guy ever! it's from the Tick for the less cultured ;P |
| 15:39.17 | Gnarfoz | trh: it must be vanaskos! tattle works! (regarding tooltip lines disappearing w/ cowtip) |
| 15:40.02 | trh | Gnarfoz: not necessarely, if tattle hooks settext instead of using addline |
| 15:40.09 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 15:40.11 | Gnarfoz | sneaky |
| 15:41.03 | trh | Gnarfoz: for ranking it uses addline and show, exactly like vanaskos |
| 15:41.41 | trh | Gnarfoz: but it also hooks some functions for the tooltip |
| 15:42.33 | art3mis | what day is it today? |
| 15:42.41 | pb_ee1 | ~poke |
| 15:42.55 | Azurewrath | mhm.. [2007/06/26 17:40:35-1294-x1]: Grid-40969\GridRange.lua:53: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "PLAYER_UNGHOST". "GridRange" is not registered with it. |
| 15:42.56 | pb_ee1 | purl, are you here? |
| 15:42.56 | purl | Yes, I'm right here, pb_ee1. |
| 15:43.04 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 15:44.15 | Gnarfoz | trh: anything that might break stuff? dunno |
| 15:44.15 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41765 10Grid/GridRange.lua: Grid: Bugfix. |
| 15:44.28 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: thx ;) |
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| 15:45.16 | trh | Gnarfoz: well.. cowtip doesn't behave like the original tooltip of the blizzard ui, therefore it's cowtip's fault.. easy :) |
| 15:46.25 | Gnarfoz | trh: no, tattle wasn't working yesterday, now it is - guess he fixed that part? :) |
| 15:46.39 | Gnarfoz | also, auctioneer data has been displaying since even longer than tattle data has been |
| 15:46.56 | Gnarfoz | he'll know best, I guess, just making sure it's not something else ^^ |
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| 15:47.07 | trh | Gnarfoz: i'm still not adding code to fix other addon's mistakes |
| 15:47.53 | Gnarfoz | just wondering why it works for some and for some it doesn't |
| 15:48.04 | pastamancer | Azurewrath: thx |
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| 15:48.14 | yoshimo | The Changelog-Summary created from the WoW-Ace-Updater is a bit messed up, isn't it? |
| 15:48.31 | Gnarfoz | how os? |
| 15:48.32 | Gnarfoz | *so |
| 15:48.32 | pb_ee1 | yoshimo: Depends on the release you have |
| 15:48.55 | trh | Gnarfoz: because they hool gametooltip's settext function and it it if it's called |
| 15:49.01 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten releases an insane number of releases per day so you never now if you're using the latest release ;p |
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| 15:49.02 | Azurewrath | pastamancer: np, vhaar fixed it already |
| 15:49.10 | trh | Gnarfoz: instead of checking mouseover and adding the line then |
| 15:49.16 | pb_ee1 | He mustn't be a human, as ckknight |
| 15:49.26 | pastamancer | ah |
| 15:50.17 | yoshimo | 1.9.15.403 is the one i'Ve troubles with, downloaded today |
| 15:50.40 | sbu | mh - is void reaver spawn still 45 min - 1h? |
| 15:51.06 | Matrix110 | if its respawns smth is wrong |
| 15:51.29 | sbu | heh ;o |
| 15:51.31 | Nickenyfiken | yoshimo: I just updated using that version and the summary log looks fine for me |
| 15:51.32 | pb_ee1 | yoshimo: there's a release 1.13 i think |
| 15:51.40 | pb_ee1 | ~wau |
| 15:51.41 | purl | i heard wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. |
| 15:51.41 | sbu | meh i have no idea... *sigh* |
| 15:52.18 | pb_ee1 | 1.9.15 actually :D |
| 15:53.05 | yoshimo | my summary only contains the addons that were updated no more quotations from their changelogs |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41766 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-22 | AceDB-2.0 (Mikk's branch): |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-22 | Add "Delete profile" to built-in AceOptions (uses the copy profile list. Allows |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-22 | deletion of profiles on other characters, which is part iffy, but also makes |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-22 | sense since you'll want to be able to delete stuff from deleted characters. In |
| 15:53.09 | CIA-22 | effect, what'll actually happen if you delete a profile in use on another toon |
| 15:53.13 | CIA-22 | is that it becomes "reset", so it's not like anything errors out. |
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| 15:54.20 | Funkeh` | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 15:54.56 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 34m 38s ago, saying: 'vacation time - see ya'll laterz'. |
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| 15:55.09 | Funkeh` | lol.. |
| 15:55.54 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 15:56.14 | Funkeh` | its making stupid backup.xml files in the interface folder.. |
| 15:56.26 | Funkeh` | i don't think he knows the more shit you have there the longer wow lakes to load |
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| 15:57.09 | Funkeh` | and now hes on vacation -_- |
| 15:57.21 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat <- delete embedded stuff that exists in SAL, and nuke all the changelog junk |
| 15:57.49 | Funkeh` | mikk or just turn on delete before extract :p |
| 15:57.57 | Mikk | _all_ the changelog junk :P |
| 15:58.01 | Nickenyfiken | Mikk: nice |
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| 15:58.44 | Funkeh` | Mikk: you have threat repeated twice |
| 15:58.47 | dodgizzla | Ohnoes! |
| 15:58.48 | dodgizzla | Cannot unregister event "PLAYER_UNGHOST". "GridRange" is not registered with it. |
| 15:58.55 | dodgizzla | They broke my Grid :\ |
| 15:59.06 | Mikk | Funkeh`: cheers :> |
| 15:59.15 | pb_ee1 | Funkeh`: I agree, these files shouldn't be there |
| 15:59.28 | pb_ee1 | They should be in the wowaceupdater folder, not in the Interface folder |
| 15:59.35 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 15:59.38 | Funkeh` | or in /temp or something |
| 15:59.51 | pb_ee1 | i would say wowaceupdater |
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| 16:00.05 | Mikk | the problem with the changelog files is that it isn't wowaceupdater's fault per se |
| 16:00.06 | pb_ee1 | because you'll maybe need these files later, and the "temp" folder can be deleted at any time |
| 16:00.09 | Mikk | they arrive readymade in the zips |
| 16:00.16 | pb_ee1 | ? |
| 16:00.19 | Mikk | but yeah wau should be moving them out |
| 16:00.32 | Funkeh` | Mikk: we are tlaking about the backup xml files its making |
| 16:00.38 | Funkeh` | in the interface folder |
| 16:00.48 | Funkeh` | not really bothered about the changelogs :p |
| 16:00.50 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: Changelogs are cool, don't move them |
| 16:01.03 | pb_ee1 | It's quite logical to have some changelogs _in_ the addon folders |
| 16:01.03 | Funkeh` | you can modify your bat file to delete those Mikk |
| 16:01.20 | pb_ee1 | but the backup**.xml files in the /Interface/ are a bit unwanted :p |
| 16:01.23 | Funkeh` | C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\*backup*.xml |
| 16:01.33 | Mikk | huhu... that's too wide for my comfort |
| 16:01.34 | pb_ee1 | Funkeh`: You're wrong |
| 16:01.40 | pb_ee1 | It's on D:\ |
| 16:01.54 | Funkeh` | >> |
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| 16:02.30 | Nickenyfiken | Who need thousands of changelog files in the addon folders when they are easily read on trac or any rss feed... |
| 16:02.46 | vhaarr | noone, that's who |
| 16:03.02 | Funkeh` | apparently people use WAU to read them |
| 16:03.15 | Mikk | Well, have WAU move them somewhere else ftw? |
| 16:03.25 | pb_ee1 | i dunno |
| 16:03.41 | pb_ee1 | having the changelogs on your computer also reduces load on files.wowace server |
| 16:03.44 | Mikk | WAUDir/ChangeLogs/Addon/blah.xml |
| 16:03.47 | Funkeh` | WAU already makes a consolidated changelog |
| 16:03.55 | Funkeh` | all WAu needs to do is delete them really |
| 16:04.00 | pb_ee1 | Humm |
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| 16:04.07 | Mikk | That changelog unfortunately gets nuked if you updated twice tho |
| 16:04.14 | Mikk | Which you do as soon as WAUs' connections hang |
| 16:04.25 | pb_ee1 | xD |
| 16:04.40 | durcyn | Nickenyfiken: delete-before-extracting |
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| 16:05.40 | syeren | [2007/06/26 16:45:12-1288-x1]: Grid-40969\GridRange.lua:53: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "PLAYER_UNGHOST". "GridRange" is not registered with it. |
| 16:05.40 | syeren | AceAddon-2.0-40905 (Ace2):919: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:912> |
| 16:05.40 | syeren | <in C code>: ? |
| 16:05.41 | syeren | AceEvent-2.0-40601 (Ace2):232: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 16:05.42 | syeren | AceEvent-2.0-40601 (Ace2):910: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:903> |
| 16:05.44 | syeren | --- |
| 16:05.55 | syeren | Sorry :p |
| 16:05.57 | pastamancer | scroll up harder |
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| 16:06.26 | syeren | Ah, 20 minutes or so then until it's fixed ;p |
| 16:07.15 | pb_ee1 | 23 mn :P |
| 16:07.55 | pb_ee1 | Going back home :) |
| 16:08.05 | vhaarr | Mikk: Dewdrop:Refresh() should refresh all levels now, if passed no argument |
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| 16:08.26 | Nickenyfiken | durcyn: yeah but no need to package then in the first place (IMO) |
| 16:09.15 | vhaarr | Mikk: and the delete command should have a confirm dialog, imo |
| 16:10.43 | Thorgard | Gnarfoz, hmm, last I checked [DifficultyColor] was working for me. |
| 16:10.56 | Gnarfoz | Thorgard: yes, I revised my botmail already :) |
| 16:10.59 | durcyn | Nickenyfiken: well, the problem right now is that WAU uses the existing changelog files to confirm local version.. that would have to change first |
| 16:10.59 | Gnarfoz | it only works on hostile NPCs |
| 16:11.16 | Thorgard | Gnarfoz, ah, yeah, wish it worked for friendlies too. ;P |
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| 16:11.33 | Gnarfoz | did, before |
| 16:11.37 | Gnarfoz | or something did, nevermind |
| 16:11.44 | Dotted | anyone feel like explaining how Glory-2.0 calculates next BG weekend *:)? |
| 16:11.47 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah they should change that too, no need to do it that way. |
| 16:12.06 | Mikk | vhaarr: Ok, fixing the rest of AceDB for Dewdrop stuff. And yeah I was debating a confirmation dialog... I'll just go ahead and put that in then. |
| 16:12.09 | Fisker- | so has anyone seen kenco's klhtm 20? :P |
| 16:12.20 | Thorgard | Fisker-, wut? ;P |
| 16:12.34 | vhaarr | Mikk: cool |
| 16:12.44 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 16:12.54 | Mikk | (yeah, confirmed, Dewdrop:Update() will loop all active levels) |
| 16:12.54 | Fisker- | he just released his first beta of KTM 20 |
| 16:13.20 | Chompers | really? |
| 16:13.23 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, going through the diff right now |
| 16:13.28 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 16:13.29 | Dustwhisper | link |
| 16:13.31 | Fisker- | was thinking of that |
| 16:13.33 | Fisker- | :) |
| 16:13.42 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: post diff @ pastey please |
| 16:13.42 | Chompers | time to check for Threat-1.0 code |
| 16:13.43 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 16:13.46 | Fisker- | could be funny if he suddenly had some code from KTMCpuManager |
| 16:14.12 | Dustwhisper | what would be surprising if some snags from threat-1.0 was inn it |
| 16:14.14 | Antiarc|Work | He's basically rewriting the boss handling code to allow people to write Lua handlers in-game for a specific boss and then share them with the raid. |
| 16:14.30 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: It's pretty extensive |
| 16:14.33 | Antiarc|Work | But I can if you like |
| 16:14.33 | Dustwhisper | like automatic threat-resets on phasechanges etc? |
| 16:14.37 | Antiarc|Work | (I'm using windiff) |
| 16:14.40 | Antiarc|Work | right |
| 16:14.45 | Dustwhisper | that would rock |
| 16:15.13 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41767 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB-2.0: Make use of Dewdrop:Update() now updating all levels automatically |
| 16:15.14 | vhaarr | 'windiff' ? |
| 16:15.22 | copystring__ | anyone knows if its possible to move single players of pitbulls party interface? only get the whole group moving... |
| 16:15.43 | vhaarr | is that like .. microsofts alternative to GNU diff? |
| 16:15.45 | copystring__ | visor buggers if i relog positions reset |
| 16:15.55 | Antiarc|Work | Nah, it's just a visual diff tool. |
| 16:16.03 | Antiarc|Work | Easier than reading GNU diffs. :P |
| 16:16.09 | durcyn | vimdiff imo |
| 16:16.09 | vhaarr | nonsense! |
| 16:16.10 | Antiarc|Work | Very similar to Tortoise's merge tool |
| 16:16.15 | Antiarc|Work | --> STOP PRESS: Major Brainstorm: Since speech names and spell names are kept different, for KTM internal bossmods we don't need speech / spells sections |
| 16:16.26 | vhaarr | oO |
| 16:16.39 | durcyn | STOP PRESS! |
| 16:16.45 | rubik | engrish++ |
| 16:16.48 | Fisker- | err? |
| 16:17.10 | pastamancer | hammertime? |
| 16:17.21 | Mikk | u can't touch this! |
| 16:17.30 | Fisker- | pastamancer |
| 16:17.31 | Fisker- | i like you |
| 16:17.41 | Fisker- | now make something cool in grid |
| 16:17.44 | Fisker- | now that i like you :( |
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| 16:18.03 | pastamancer | grid is already cool |
| 16:18.29 | Fisker- | yeah but it kinda plateau'ed |
| 16:18.32 | Chompers | pastamancer makes grid? |
| 16:18.38 | Fisker- | and then the bar for cool was raised |
| 16:18.56 | Mikk | tbh, who gives a shit about cool? o.O |
| 16:19.04 | Fisker- | ^^ |
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| 16:20.52 | pastamancer | grid is hanging out in bugfix territory. I don't plan on making any big changes to it. |
| 16:21.21 | syeren | Antiarc|Work, has KTM2.0 fixed any of the performance issues that users were experiencing? |
| 16:22.04 | phyber | heh. Threat-1.0 has triggered a KTM rewrite? |
| 16:22.05 | Antiarc|Work | No. |
| 16:22.14 | Antiarc|Work | It's still using polling heavily |
| 16:22.19 | Antiarc|Work | It's just...more roundabout about it now. |
| 16:22.19 | syeren | You need to make a feature where you can play tetris with Grid when you're AFK'ing in AV pastamancer ;p |
| 16:22.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'm still reading. |
| 16:22.28 | Nickenyfiken | Hehe according to the author KTM has no performance issues... |
| 16:23.10 | Antiarc|Work | However, Threat's KTM handling code will need to be update, because KTM is including a bulk messaging protocol now |
| 16:23.10 | Dustwhisper | i never noticed any big performance hits from KTM either :P |
| 16:23.12 | syeren | How long will that take you Antiarc? |
| 16:23.16 | rubik | lol |
| 16:23.18 | Fisker- | aww pastamancer |
| 16:23.20 | Fisker- | grid2 then |
| 16:23.22 | Fisker- | or Boxes |
| 16:23.30 | Antiarc|Work | syeren: Not long, really. I can adapt my handling code to just ignore bulk messages, if I'm reading this right |
| 16:23.30 | Fisker- | then it can come back into featureville |
| 16:23.35 | Antiarc|Work | Just have to be aware that it's there |
| 16:24.11 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: No, but if you were running 10 addons that behaved like KTM does, you would, believe me :P |
| 16:24.28 | cryogen | and just because you dont notice them doesnt mean they arent there |
| 16:24.33 | cryogen | some of us run with crappy computers :p |
| 16:24.37 | pastamancer | Fisker-: please change the universe so that there are more days in the week! |
| 16:24.41 | Punkie` | If I understand correctly, the better FPS you have, the more of an impact you will suffer from KTM |
| 16:24.50 | Fisker- | of course pastamancer |
| 16:25.19 | cynyr | Dustwhisper: it was my biggest cpu and mem usage.... |
| 16:25.21 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: That's true, to a degree. KTM's code runs once per frame. |
| 16:25.37 | Antiarc|Work | KTM's mem usage isn't too bad really. It hangs around in the 800-900kb range consistently. |
| 16:25.41 | Mikk | But you NEED to check if your're a hunter 50 times a second! You might become a different class! |
| 16:25.44 | Antiarc|Work | Its CPU usage leaves things to be desired though. |
| 16:29.58 | cynyr | Antiarc|Work: true, not sure why it uses sooo much cpu, haven't really looked at the code |
| 16:30.24 | Antiarc|Work | cynyr: Because it brute-forces everything by running a ton of code periodically through OnUpdate |
| 16:30.32 | Antiarc|Work | So it's executing a bunch of functions every frame |
| 16:30.37 | cynyr | ick |
| 16:30.49 | jme | Mikk: lol |
| 16:31.03 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, onupdate, run each registered function, each function tracks its time since last call, if time since last call > some set time then run the rest of the code. |
| 16:31.12 | Antiarc|Work | These are things like scanning buffs, talents, checking for invisibility, etc. |
| 16:31.30 | durcyn | events, motherfucker, do you speak them? |
| 16:31.58 | Antiarc|Work | The vast majority of the new code is GUI stuff, truth be told. |
| 16:32.01 | sag_ich_nicht | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112677128&sid=1 interesting, the translation to english is bad and the screens are down, but i think this could quite possibly be true |
| 16:32.03 | cynyr | Antiarc|Work: does each client check for that on you? or no? |
| 16:32.12 | Mikk | Heck, I'd even optimize my buff scanner so that each checker wouldn't have to re-scan the buffs |
| 16:32.17 | Antiarc|Work | No, you just check it on yourself. |
| 16:32.19 | Mikk | And that's still running on a per-event basis |
| 16:32.26 | art3mis | hrm |
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| 16:32.31 | Mikk | But I'm not Kenco :P |
| 16:32.34 | art3mis | wonder why i cant click buffs off in aguf |
| 16:32.35 | durcyn | at least he's doing some semblance of bucketing with the onupdates |
| 16:32.45 | Antiarc|Work | Oh holy crap. |
| 16:32.47 | Antiarc|Work | Holy crap. |
| 16:32.52 | Cryect | what? |
| 16:32.55 | cynyr | ?? |
| 16:32.56 | rubik | "Wowhead is temporarily down for maintenance." <-- only took them 12 hours to put up a maintenance page.. gg |
| 16:33.14 | Antiarc|Work | He's letting people construct Lua code in-game and send that over the wire to the raid group, which then...looks like it gets executed remotely. |
| 16:33.18 | Antiarc|Work | So uh |
| 16:33.19 | art3mis | ever get the feeling that wowhead started off as a porn site? |
| 16:33.21 | cynyr | ohh how bout that, in the last minute they did that |
| 16:33.21 | Mikk | O.O |
| 16:33.21 | Antiarc|Work | If I read this right |
| 16:33.27 | Cryect | so we can create KTM Exploits? |
| 16:33.32 | Mikk | omg |
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| 16:33.34 | Antiarc|Work | I can remotely execute any code I want on any group member's client. |
| 16:33.45 | Antiarc|Work | I really, really, REALLY hope I'm wrong. |
| 16:33.48 | Cryect | KTM Virii? Or just exploits? :-p |
| 16:33.49 | Antiarc|Work | Because this is the death of KTM if it is. |
| 16:33.50 | cynyr | Antiarc|Work: bad bad monkey.... |
| 16:33.58 | Cryect | Does it save them? |
| 16:33.59 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: rdx has had that ability for a while |
| 16:34.05 | Mikk | Cryect: Try "mail me all your money pl0x" |
| 16:34.08 | rubik | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.21 | rubik | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.21 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis: except RDX only allows it for raidleaders and you can disable it |
| 16:34.22 | art3mis | then again it's prolly not a good idea to do pugs ;P |
| 16:34.33 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: semantics ;P |
| 16:34.33 | Cryect | If it can save them and KTM runs inside of BG's like AV |
| 16:34.39 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: It's a HORRIBLE idea. |
| 16:34.44 | Antiarc|Work | Horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE idea. |
| 16:34.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc not really |
| 16:34.56 | cynyr | Antiarc|Work: pugging? or sending code? |
| 16:34.57 | sag_ich_nicht | if coded right |
| 16:35.00 | Antiarc|Work | sending code |
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| 16:35.18 | Mikk | You could conceivably totally sandbox the code sent |
| 16:35.21 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: You'd have to blacklist a bunch of functions and then go to some rather hefty lengths to ensure that they don't get called. |
| 16:35.21 | Mikk | But ... er.. WHY? |
| 16:35.27 | cynyr | i can't think of a way to send user defined code to be remotly exucuted that would be safe... |
| 16:35.30 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.30 | art3mis | communicate clearly both verbally and in writing, |
| 16:35.43 | Cryect | cynyr: you can put it in its own environment if you know what you are doing |
| 16:35.44 | art3mis | that right there is AWESOME to see on a job description |
| 16:35.48 | Kalman| | cynyr: Require approval from user would be a start. |
| 16:35.50 | rubik | art3mis: you communicate verbally at your job? |
| 16:36.00 | art3mis | im talking abut the typo ;P |
| 16:36.02 | Cryect | I'm assuming this is so everyone has the latest boss versions |
| 16:36.02 | Mikk | art3mis: was "poses" typoed in the original too? :P |
| 16:36.02 | cynyr | Kalman|: every one will just click yes.. |
| 16:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, so, let's assume that I'm in a raid with my guild leader |
| 16:36.10 | art3mis | yes mikk it was |
| 16:36.15 | Mikk | muaha |
| 16:36.16 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:35] <cynyr> i can't think of a way to send user defined code to be remotly exucuted that would be safe... <--big button with a box "XYZ is trying to do X, click here to let it run, click here to abort click here to show code" |
| 16:36.16 | Cryect | can anyone send the code |
| 16:36.20 | Antiarc|Work | And I send over a "boss mod" that contains function() GuildDisband() end |
| 16:36.23 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 16:36.28 | sag_ich_nicht | *big box with buttons |
| 16:36.31 | Antiarc|Work | "Disbands your guild at once. You must be the guild's leader to do so. Be careful, no warning is given prior disbanding." |
| 16:36.43 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Checking that out now |
| 16:36.44 | Cryect | I've got to check this out and create some "theoretical virus/trojan" |
| 16:36.46 | art3mis | part of me wants to print it out mark it up with red pencil and fax it back |
| 16:36.49 | Antiarc|Work | I don't see any controls on it. |
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| 16:37.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:36] <Antiarc|Work> I don't see any controls on it. <--wait |
| 16:37.09 | rubik | art3mis: i totally agree that you should. |
| 16:37.09 | sag_ich_nicht | this is in KTM? |
| 16:37.12 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Yes. |
| 16:37.14 | sag_ich_nicht | like |
| 16:37.15 | sag_ich_nicht | right now? |
| 16:37.15 | Mikk | KTM2 |
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| 16:37.18 | Mikk | no, not in 1x |
| 16:37.18 | Antiarc|Work | In the 20.x series |
| 16:37.19 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 16:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | holy fucking shit. |
| 16:37.23 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 16:37.29 | Antiarc|Work | Hey guys |
| 16:37.34 | sag_ich_nicht | hay |
| 16:37.35 | Chompers | what the fuck is wrong with this guy |
| 16:37.37 | Antiarc|Work | I'm going to send over function() while(true) do end end |
| 16:37.45 | Chompers | why would he let something like this in :S |
| 16:37.52 | Cryect | boss mods |
| 16:37.57 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: So people can construct boss mods in game and send them to the raid group |
| 16:37.58 | sag_ich_nicht | /r/eq. code to print a big fat "stop using KTM" box to KTM users. |
| 16:37.59 | Cryect | so only one person has to update |
| 16:38.06 | Funkeh` | he probably didn't think people would use it offensively tbh |
| 16:38.06 | Antiarc|Work | I'm DESPERATELY hoping that I'm wrong here |
| 16:38.10 | Antiarc|Work | And that I'm missing something |
| 16:38.10 | Funkeh` | and you ar over reacting a bit |
| 16:38.12 | art3mis | "hi i'm applying for the above position however i noticed you've made a few typographical and gammatical errors, they are corrected below..." |
| 16:38.16 | Chompers | but....it's so EASILY abused! |
| 16:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | req. code to print a big fat "stop using KTM" box to KTM users. |
| 16:38.24 | Funkeh` | by who |
| 16:38.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 16:38.28 | Kalman| | Funkeh`: Me. |
| 16:38.28 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: I'm not overreacting at all. Letting me run arbitrary code on remote clients is a really, really, really bad idea. |
| 16:38.33 | Mikk | Funkeh`: No overreacting about it. It's stupid, stupid, stupid. |
| 16:38.35 | Chompers | what happens when people accept parties by spammers, and the spammer executes some code |
| 16:38.46 | Funkeh` | what kind of fucking idoot would abuse their own raid |
| 16:38.48 | Mikk | Chompers: BGs |
| 16:38.48 | Antiarc|Work | Or when I join a BG and screw over everyone in the BG that isn't even from my server. |
| 16:38.53 | art3mis | go make a spammer and find out ;P |
| 16:39.01 | Kalman| | Funkeh`: BGs, PUGs, and well, sometimes my raid are idiots. |
| 16:39.02 | Cryect | How could you consider any reaction overreacting to this |
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| 16:39.09 | Antiarc|Work | Or I just invite Joe Random in Ironforge to a party and then drop some kind of destructive bomb on him. |
| 16:39.10 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: make self replicating code! |
| 16:39.12 | Funkeh` | Bgs? it doesn't sue the bg channel |
| 16:39.16 | Funkeh` | use* |
| 16:39.20 | art3mis | the first wow virus! |
| 16:39.50 | Zicon | Hrrm, really? |
| 16:39.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no really |
| 16:40.04 | sag_ich_nicht | give me the code to print a big warning box to ktm users :O |
| 16:40.27 | art3mis | that only displays an uncloseable box 400x900 in the center of the screen that says KTM has been compromised Please get Omen and Threatlib from http://files.wowace.com ;P |
| 16:40.40 | Mikk | Seriously, put in an abuser in Omen |
| 16:40.40 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: which file is the comms stuff in? |
| 16:40.41 | Codayus | Heh |
| 16:40.41 | Kalman| | Well, time to go make the obligatory "I'm the person in this guild who knows mods" post to tell my guildmates not to use 20.... |
| 16:40.43 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis: awesome |
| 16:40.50 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: I'm not going to be evil with Omen |
| 16:40.57 | Mikk | You'd want the abuser to check if the user has been abused already tho |
| 16:40.57 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: Read all the new boss mod stuff |
| 16:41.01 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 16:41.03 | art3mis | that would be a great way to switch yer entire raid over ;P |
| 16:41.05 | Codayus | Does anyone else have a bad bad feeling about the idea of a virus which tries to fix a potential hole that viruses can exploit? |
| 16:41.06 | rubik | Kalman|: that's what i'm doing now.. posting in our guild forums |
| 16:41.13 | Codayus | That HAS been tried before, you know. :-) |
| 16:41.21 | rubik | and i'm telling everyone to switch to Omen ASAP |
| 16:41.28 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: |
| 16:41.37 | cynyr | there was a reverse blaster worm i think... |
| 16:41.37 | Antiarc|Work | Let me verify that it's doing that before you go all alarmist to your guild |
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| 16:41.47 | rubik | hehe.. k |
| 16:41.54 | Antiarc|Work | I'm still reading through the code, and I want to be 100% positive it's doing that before a stink is raised |
| 16:41.56 | Antiarc|Work | But if it is... |
| 16:42.25 | rubik | no worries.. small casual guild here and can always post "false alarm, sorry" and they won't care.. but i'll wait with my post regardless |
| 16:42.27 | Cryect | I only see a few loadstrings mainly in serialization |
| 16:42.28 | snurre | lol, this is kinda exciting :p |
| 16:42.38 | Cryect | is that how you thinking of passing it? |
| 16:42.42 | Codayus | You know, if it's doing it nievely, it should be pretty simple to rewrite chunks of KTM on the fly. The real fun would be in making it so that it progressively loses accuracy by like, 1% a day. |
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| 16:42.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Codayus |
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| 16:43.07 | Cryect | a, b = klhtm.serial.tabletostring(klhtm.bossmod.mods); b = string.gsub(b, "=", " = "); |
| 16:43.07 | Cryect | c = "data = " .. b; |
| 16:43.07 | Cryect | d = loadstring(c); d(); |
| 16:43.07 | phyber | Name that Font: http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062607173832oc9.jpg |
| 16:43.08 | sag_ich_nicht | you could just make it replace KTM with omen and threat-1.0 completely |
| 16:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | but that'd be unfair |
| 16:43.15 | Cryect | I assume thats what you are talking about? |
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| 16:43.32 | Codayus | DPS classes -1% thret per day, tank classes +1% a day. Infect a top raid guild on your server, and see how long it takes them to wipe messily... |
| 16:43.53 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Line 72 of ktm_serialise.lua |
| 16:43.54 | cynyr | Codayus: lol |
| 16:43.57 | subsonic | that's a nice font |
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| 16:44.31 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: And check out the new boss mods module |
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| 16:44.56 | Nickenyfiken | Can anyone recommend a DKP system for a small guild (~20 ppl) doing just Kara runs? |
| 16:44.58 | rubik | phyber: hmm.. looks like a common font, just bold? |
| 16:45.02 | Kalman| | Nickenyfiken: /random? |
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| 16:45.06 | Cryect | I see he even sets the environment to be global |
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| 16:45.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Nickenyfiken: relationaldkp |
| 16:45.13 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's still overkill. |
| 16:45.14 | rubik | Nickenyfiken: yeah.. kara should be NBG /random rolled IMO |
| 16:45.15 | Kalman| | Honestly, in Kara you'll barely have competition. Not worth the effort. |
| 16:45.25 | subsonic | Would anybody be willing to add to a mod for me? Add a (completed / total) to the top of nQuestLog? |
| 16:45.28 | Codayus | 1) Loot council. 2) /random. 3) Suicide Kings |
| 16:45.30 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: line 91 |
| 16:45.40 | snurre | Nickenyfiken: http://test.higoat.com/loot.txt ;) |
| 16:45.41 | Nickenyfiken | Well, the idea is to motivate people to come more in time to the raids |
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| 16:45.43 | Codayus | 4) Zero-sum Fixed-Price. (Which is what my guild uses.) |
| 16:45.43 | Cryect | -- restrict permissions for <me.trydeclaretable> |
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| 16:45.51 | Cryect | apparently he is planning to restrict them |
| 16:45.54 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Where do you see that? |
| 16:45.56 | Cryect | if you look in the 2nd version |
| 16:45.58 | Cryect | right below it |
| 16:46.03 | sedatedChipmunk | subsonic: have a patch? |
| 16:46.05 | Cryect | me.trydeclaretable2 |
| 16:46.15 | Cryect | he creates a new environment for the function |
| 16:46.26 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: I don't think the code is in svn |
| 16:46.37 | hyperChipmunk | says it is |
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| 16:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ ace info nQuestLog |
| 16:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | Path: nQuestLog |
| 16:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | URL: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/nQuestLog |
| 16:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | Repository Root: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace |
| 16:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | Repository UUID: 48e1f902-e210-0410-a839-a0138e9d5bd5 |
| 16:47.03 | Mikk | Nickenyfiken: Zero sum fixed price. Possibly Zero sum bidding. |
| 16:47.07 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: Ahh, well, I don't have anything :) (I don't know what you mean by patch) |
| 16:47.09 | Cryect | Trying to figure out does he ever call the unsecure version now for sent code |
| 16:47.19 | Nickenyfiken | Ok ok |
| 16:47.20 | hyperChipmunk | a diff with the code |
| 16:47.24 | cynyr | speaking of omen, it would seem that if you have always show self checked, and uncheck your classes bars you stop showing up... |
| 16:47.28 | mikma | that's missing "last updated" |
| 16:47.34 | Kalman| | Nickenyfiken: DKP to fix social problems is a bad idea, tbh. |
| 16:47.42 | snurre | DKP is a horrible idea for any guild tbh |
| 16:47.49 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: It's a request from me, I haven't edited any code yet :) |
| 16:47.53 | sag_ich_nicht | relationaldkp works imho |
| 16:47.54 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 16:47.54 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 16:47.57 | hyperChipmunk | newb |
| 16:47.58 | subsonic | The author can't update anymore |
| 16:48.02 | subsonic | totally :) |
| 16:48.04 | art3mis | you could just use that webdkp or whatever |
| 16:48.10 | hyperChipmunk | gimme a moment; just woke up |
| 16:48.14 | hyperChipmunk | I'll see what i can do |
| 16:48.14 | art3mis | there are lots of free standing 0sum's |
| 16:48.16 | Kalman| | snurre: It's a perfectly good way to try and distribute items. The problem is when people try to make it do more than that. |
| 16:48.24 | art3mis | dkp is just a horrid idea in the first place though |
| 16:48.26 | Codayus | My experience is, if your going to do DKP, fixed price zero sum is good. Whether DKP is a good idea in Kara...more debatable. It probably won't fix anything that's wrong with your guild; it probably won't break anything either. |
| 16:48.47 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: cool, I've looked at the code (I'm new to modding), but it seems like he write everything on buttons, which is strange to me. I don't see where to just put the text. |
| 16:48.50 | art3mis | simple item distro is "what it link me what you've got whoever benefits most gets it" |
| 16:48.51 | jme | Codayus: my guild just rolls, heh |
| 16:48.55 | jme | Codayus: master looter |
| 16:49.06 | Kalman| | art3mis: Whoever benefits most is horrible in many cases as well. |
| 16:49.07 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Alright the unsecured version is never actually |
| 16:49.08 | Cryect | called |
| 16:49.14 | Antiarc|Work | Whew. |
| 16:49.22 | Antiarc|Work | Man. I just nearly had a heart attack there. |
| 16:49.24 | art3mis | Kalman|: not if its in guild ;P |
| 16:49.24 | Cryect | the last function tracing it back is gettablefromstringold |
| 16:49.25 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: [staharaj@hyperion]$ ace info nQuestLog --- is "ace" an svn alias you made? |
| 16:49.29 | Cryect | thats not actually used |
| 16:49.50 | Gagorian | art3mis: That promotes slacking. People won't try to get the best craftables etc because then they can't get the lewt |
| 16:49.50 | Kalman| | art3mis: Even in guild. It rewards not trying to upgrade things outside of raids, it ignores differential contribution, etc. |
| 16:50.08 | rubik | awww.. so KTM 20.xx *is* safe(-ish) to use? booooo! :P |
| 16:50.09 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Do you have some kind of analyzer that lets you see call paths and the like? |
| 16:50.09 | Cryect | rechecking to confirm though |
| 16:50.11 | snurre | Kalman|: the problem is that DKP tends to devolve into a currency, and that's when problems occur |
| 16:50.12 | art3mis | its not a finite thing ;P it also falls to the RL to decide ;P |
| 16:50.12 | Antiarc|Work | Or just doing it manually? |
| 16:50.15 | Cryect | manually |
| 16:50.21 | Cryect | I wish I had something like that for lua |
| 16:50.25 | Cryect | would really help with debugging |
| 16:50.29 | art3mis | i like that way of doping it though |
| 16:50.31 | Gagorian | Rolling with a slight input of the raid leader is probably best for karazhan |
| 16:50.32 | art3mis | err doing |
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| 16:50.41 | art3mis | nods |
| 16:50.43 | jme | Gagorian: that's what we do |
| 16:50.49 | Mikk | Zero SUM DKP and EPGP cure the worst problems with DKP as a currency tho |
| 16:50.53 | Mikk | s/SUM/sum/ |
| 16:50.55 | Kalman| | snurre: That's a social problem, not a problem with DKP. That's like saying "loot councils are fine", without acknowledging that that's only true if the people assigning items are smart. |
| 16:51.03 | jme | i've not had the opportunity to roll on anything though, because i've only been halfway through kara (through curator) once |
| 16:51.21 | Wixi | we use /rolls for 10 man, Council for25's |
| 16:51.23 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Oh we read the code wrong anyways |
| 16:51.33 | Mikk | Having said that, rolling through kara works well until people start having nearly everything they want |
| 16:51.38 | Mikk | That's when you start wishing you'd used DKP |
| 16:51.44 | art3mis | laugh |
| 16:51.47 | Codayus | Personally, if I got to choose how my guild did Kara loot, I think I'd choose loot council. Of course, I'd be the one in charge of the council if we did... :-p |
| 16:51.47 | art3mis | i like random chance |
| 16:51.49 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Oh? |
| 16:51.54 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: me.trydeclaretable sets a global environement for the function me.trydeclaretable2 this actually calls the encoded table function in a secured environment |
| 16:51.57 | Mikk | Cause you get people running kara bloody forever and always losing rolls on that single item they want, when it DOES drop |
| 16:52.02 | Gagorian | We use zero-sum fixed price based on item points based on class :p |
| 16:52.04 | Dustwhisper | We roll |
| 16:52.06 | Cryect | setfenv(me.trydeclaretable2, getfenv(0)) |
| 16:52.06 | Cryect | |
| 16:52.06 | Cryect | return me.trydeclaretable2(func) |
| 16:52.08 | Dustwhisper | we rolled in gruul for a while aswell |
| 16:52.08 | snurre | we've been using http://test.higoat.com/loot.txt since anarchy online... no wai i'd ever use another loot system :p |
| 16:52.10 | Kalman| | Mikk: That's when you use brow-beating. :p |
| 16:52.12 | jme | Mikk: like what happened to one of our healing pallies |
| 16:52.12 | pastamancer | Mikk: that's when you stat conspiring |
| 16:52.15 | Cryect | func is the potentially unsecure code |
| 16:52.18 | Dustwhisper | we use Dkp + loot council |
| 16:52.18 | pastamancer | s/stat/start/ |
| 16:52.24 | Cryect | but its in a sandbox when its run |
| 16:52.26 | Dustwhisper | Tanks get automatic priority on all important pieces |
| 16:52.30 | jme | Mikk: he lost the roll twice on the healing helm from prince and he was in there a lot more than the guys he lost it too |
| 16:52.32 | Dustwhisper | and some people are forced major upgrades |
| 16:52.33 | jme | s/too/to |
| 16:52.35 | Cryect | so the worst you can do is a loop that freezes everyone |
| 16:52.39 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: But he's doing an unprotected loadstring |
| 16:52.44 | Codayus | My guild used /random in ZG a long time ago and it went...very poorly. Part of it depends on how well your progressing and how many casuals you have. When Raider X goes to ZG for 20 weeks to get a single item he needs, and loses it 4 weeks in a row to a different new casual...there's drama. |
| 16:52.54 | Antiarc|Work | So anything that isn't in a function will get executed, won't it? |
| 16:53.03 | drama | hi there. |
| 16:53.05 | Mikk | jme: Yeah, but DKP automagically fixes that without having anyone try to remember (in the regular humanly flawed way) who in the raid "deserves" it more |
| 16:53.06 | drama | so, where do I start? |
| 16:53.16 | pastamancer | loadstring doesn't execute |
| 16:53.22 | art3mis | yeah but drama is inevitable |
| 16:53.31 | drama | that I am! |
| 16:53.34 | Mikk | Cause in the same way, you tend to notice loudmouths being present a lot more than the silent workers that just show up every night and do their job |
| 16:53.39 | Xuerian | Drama? is that you?! It's been so long since I left you! ... wanna have a long, hot night of annoying fun again? |
| 16:53.42 | Codayus | A good DKP fixes that, but so does have relatively static rosters or having progression so your raiders are in BWL or SSC, and not worrying about ZG/Kara. |
| 16:53.49 | drama | hell yes! |
| 16:53.52 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: no load string returns the code as a function |
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| 16:54.00 | Cryect | look at the lua reference doc |
| 16:54.02 | Dustwhisper | DKP is shit |
| 16:54.03 | art3mis | ive nevr liked dkp for the one simple reason that it gives 0 chance to people who were there for the kill just because someone was there all the time does not mean they should restrict someoen else |
| 16:54.05 | Dustwhisper | no matter what system you use |
| 16:54.07 | Antiarc|Work | Aha, that's right. |
| 16:54.08 | Cryect | "If there are no errors, returns the compiled chunk as a function; otherwise, returns nil plus the error message. The environment of the returned function is the global environment." |
| 16:54.10 | Dustwhisper | you can always horde DKP |
| 16:54.12 | Dustwhisper | and it sucks |
| 16:54.12 | art3mis | like in mc for example |
| 16:54.13 | yacoob | what's funny, 'drama' is actually a registered nickanem here 8) |
| 16:54.21 | Cryect | so its not run till you run it |
| 16:54.22 | art3mis | lets say the guild wipes 40 times on luci |
| 16:54.24 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. I'm feeling less panicky now. |
| 16:54.26 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: EPGP sorta solves that |
| 16:54.29 | Iceroth | we used really simple dkp system for kara: every night is X dkp per person, loot costs 50% of your dkp (this is to let new guys have a chance to get some loot) - worked really well for us |
| 16:54.32 | Wixi | even though we usually /roll for items in kara, logic takesover by the RL, if he feels someone is worthy of it, ie been waiting 4 weeks for it and theres a new guy in the raid, he will assign it to the guy he feels best |
| 16:54.33 | Antiarc|Work | Thought remote client hardlocks are still possible. :/ |
| 16:54.35 | Cryect | still could lock up peopel |
| 16:54.38 | Antiarc|Work | yeah, |
| 16:54.43 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 16:54.43 | art3mis | then one night they get 5 pug players who actually are the reason that luci dies |
| 16:54.48 | sag_ich_nicht | talking of "bad" addons |
| 16:55.15 | art3mis | then magically the 40 nights before dkp stacks up from trash mobs and since its the 5 puggers first night they get absolutely 0 chance at any gear |
| 16:55.28 | Kalman| | art3mis: Then they should have come to the 40 nights. |
| 16:55.30 | Mikk | DKP + PUGgers doesnt work very well no |
| 16:55.34 | Cryect | anyways you can't lock up people yet since none of that code is used at all |
| 16:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5418/ anyone else think this addon is unfair? |
| 16:55.45 | art3mis | Kalman|: yes but without them on night 4 there would have been a wipe again |
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| 16:55.46 | Codayus | art3mis: Sounds like a flawed DKP system? :-) |
| 16:55.47 | Cryect | but sure he is planning to |
| 16:56.00 | snurre | sag_ich_nicht: unfair? no |
| 16:56.00 | art3mis | dkp is shit in my opinion i've always hated it |
| 16:56.09 | art3mis | i dont mind losing random rolls to people |
| 16:56.17 | Kalman| | art3mis: I don't mind if they've spent as much time there as me. |
| 16:56.22 | sag_ich_nicht | snurre imho it gives an unfair advantage to horde players |
| 16:56.26 | art3mis | i do mind how ever being told that i dont even get a roll when i helped them kill said mob |
| 16:56.31 | snurre | sag_ich_nicht: there is an alliance version too |
| 16:56.37 | cynyr | sag_ich_nicht: all it's doing is clicking the button really really close together, it's not fool proof |
| 16:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | snurre o rly |
| 16:56.46 | Codayus | If you stack your DKP system to reward wipes, you'll have issues, IMHO. |
| 16:56.49 | sag_ich_nicht | cynyr: i know, but it works pretty well |
| 16:56.53 | art3mis | i actually had a mini system for dkp |
| 16:57.13 | Kalman| | I'm willing to bet I can point out all the problems with whatever system you decide on in 10 minutes or less. :p |
| 16:57.18 | jme | this just in: all addons are horde only |
| 16:57.21 | cynyr | sag_ich_nicht: a fault of the joing the que system.. but yea.. i've seen 40 man T3 raids of AV, scarry shit right there |
| 16:57.22 | Cryect | why the hell is the sync code for sw stats 9 pages long >_< |
| 16:57.35 | [Ammo] | Cryect: hahaha |
| 16:57.38 | Kalman| | All systems have flaws; each system does something well and something badly. Pick the one that does the important (to you) things well. |
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| 16:57.45 | [Ammo] | Cryect: I figured it out :p |
| 16:57.45 | art3mis | basically it awarded points for item drops and kills, any loot you get (whoever has the most wins it, in the event of a tie its a random) 0's yer dkp and it only holds dkp for 2 nights |
| 16:57.47 | [Ammo] | read violation :) |
| 16:57.48 | Dotted | sag_ich_nicht "This AddOn is HORDE ONLY. Do not ask me to make it work for the Alliance, because I won't." <- :D:D:D:D:D:D:D |
| 16:57.57 | cryogen | clad|work: can confirm that it's my unitframes thats obscuring lightheade |
| 16:57.57 | cryogen | d |
| 16:57.59 | jme | [Ammo]: so violation is 5 lines long? |
| 16:57.59 | art3mis | the 2 nights however do NOT need to be in sequence |
| 16:58.06 | Cryect | yeah I was planning to check how violation implements sw stats reading at least |
| 16:58.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Dotted: my point exactly why I say it's unfair :P |
| 16:58.19 | art3mis | but they do expire after 1 week |
| 16:58.24 | Cryect | figure I should at least look at the original first |
| 16:58.28 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: rofl. Entire code is on one line. |
| 16:58.29 | Kalman| | art3mis: Penalizes people when nothing for them drops; it's hell with the RNG. |
| 16:58.30 | art3mis | that was about it kal ;) |
| 16:58.43 | Codayus | art3mis: I've seen several systems that work very similarly, a sliding window isn't that uncommon. Look at Warmath for one of the larger ones. |
| 16:58.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian: no, it's not, your editor is bad :P |
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| 16:58.56 | art3mis | i think its the best |
| 16:58.58 | Codayus | (It differs in some other areas, though.) |
| 16:58.59 | liquiem | av perform enable is neat |
| 16:59.00 | Kalman| | You can't penalize people for involuntary poor loot streaks. There; fundamental problem with your system in <10 minutes. :p |
| 16:59.05 | liquiem | guild av ftw |
| 16:59.11 | subsonic | sag_ich_nicht: You mean because it's HORDE only/ |
| 16:59.17 | art3mis | it allows those that come frequent to have a slight advantage all the time over first timers |
| 16:59.25 | cynyr | sag_ich_nicht: Dotted: there is one that works for both, stinkyque |
| 16:59.29 | art3mis | in hat they've got THAT night + the previous nights points |
| 16:59.39 | art3mis | where as the newbs only have THAT run |
| 16:59.56 | art3mis | that doesnt penalize bad loot at all |
| 17:00.00 | Kalman| | Yes it does. |
| 17:00.03 | art3mis | how so? |
| 17:00.09 | Kalman| | I'm a rogue. Nothing rogue drops for two nights; I show up anyway. |
| 17:00.14 | Codayus | Yes, it does. |
| 17:00.23 | Kalman| | This keeps happening for four weeks. |
| 17:00.25 | Codayus | Or, what if you show up for a boss tht you KNOW can't drop your loot? |
| 17:00.27 | Kalman| | New rogue shows up for two nights. |
| 17:00.29 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Well, it is in three different editors :P |
| 17:00.36 | Kalman| | Third night, something drops for rogues. |
| 17:00.39 | Kalman| | Me and new rogue are tied. |
| 17:00.41 | Codayus | Or an instance. |
| 17:00.45 | art3mis | you still have full points for the run you'r on and the previous run |
| 17:00.49 | Kalman| | Right. |
| 17:01.00 | Kalman| | But one person has been faithfully showing up and helping out for weeks. |
| 17:01.04 | Kalman| | The other person? Two nights. |
| 17:01.08 | art3mis | if new rogue shows up on 3rd night you've got 2 nights worth and he's got 1 |
| 17:01.20 | art3mis | you have more points |
| 17:01.21 | Codayus | Let's say your guild raids 3 nights a week, Kara twice, SSC once. If I need only SSC loot, I'll only want to go to SSC. For most guilds, that's obviously not what you want. |
| 17:01.24 | art3mis | how could you lose? |
| 17:01.25 | Kalman| | Fine, 4th night. |
| 17:01.51 | art3mis | if you're gonna be that whiney of a loot whore really you dont belong in the guild ;P |
| 17:02.09 | art3mis | its not about personally getting ahead in a guild its about making the guild as a whole better ;P |
| 17:02.12 | art3mis | duh |
| 17:02.16 | Kalman| | It isn't loot-whoring. It's saying that people with more frequent attendance are going to put to use the gear better to make the guild better. |
| 17:02.32 | Codayus | art3mis: If you assume nobody is a loot whore and they're all in it for the good of the guild, don't try social engineering via DKP systems. :-( |
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| 17:02.44 | Codayus | And don't complain about loot. IMHO. <shrug> |
| 17:02.48 | art3mis | its a simple pug system |
| 17:03.00 | art3mis | oh i know that the guild im in is running dkp |
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| 17:03.07 | art3mis | i ahte dkp and have told them so |
| 17:03.15 | art3mis | if i get stuff great if i dont who cares |
| 17:03.26 | Iceroth | sag_ich_nicht, the author of that AV mod must be one sad person |
| 17:03.41 | art3mis | as it stands there are about 4 items in all of kara that beats the crap ive got from never setting foot in any place that has dkp ;) |
| 17:03.44 | Iceroth | seeing all that trouble to obfuscate his code and allot make it "horde only" |
| 17:04.08 | Kalman| | It's pretty obvious you don't really understand the purpose of DKP, which goes back to what snurre said about treating it like a currency. |
| 17:04.19 | art3mis | dkp is stupid |
| 17:04.50 | nadas | a statement like that is stupid :) |
| 17:04.53 | Codayus | art3mis: Mmm. I think it's best I drop out of this conversation. I agree with Kalman, and...that sorta thing bugs me. |
| 17:04.59 | Kalman| | Treating it like money is stupid. Treating it as a way of evenly distributing items is not. |
| 17:05.01 | nadas | if it serves a purpose and it does it well, how can it be stupid? |
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| 17:05.12 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: It's not used right now, but he has code there to basically give the secure environment access to all Blizzard functions |
| 17:05.18 | art3mis | it's like i said if the guild runs some mob 40 times and fails constantly, and then 5 people join them and because of those 5 people they beat the encounter, why should the little failure retards be rewarded for attendence when the new 5 people are the reason it succeeded |
| 17:05.21 | Antiarc|Work | Which, if it ends up in the finished version, is seriously bad juju |
| 17:05.28 | Kalman| | art3mis: Because it wasn't because of those 5 people. |
| 17:05.41 | nadas | art3mis: you're completely discarding the experiences of the other 20 people |
| 17:05.49 | art3mis | it is and it has been, ive seen it ALOT |
| 17:05.57 | Kalman| | Then kick the other 20. |
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| 17:06.02 | Kalman| | DKP is not a solution for social problems. |
| 17:06.03 | Mikk | art3mis: zerosum doesn't have that problem |
| 17:06.04 | Mudkipz | o lord |
| 17:06.09 | Mudkipz | ./popcorn |
| 17:06.14 | Mudkipz | someone pass the butter |
| 17:06.15 | Mikk | err, i take that back, it does |
| 17:06.22 | snurre | as long as you realise no loot system will actually create a higher number of drops and see that the system is only there to give it to those who both want it and deserve it the most.. the good systems are those that prevent people from whoring stuff when others need it more.. but all systems require at least some sort of obedience by the users |
| 17:06.32 | art3mis | you're discounting the idea that just because someone runs something 40 times does NOT automatically(or rather should not) garner them the right to restrict everyone who helped kill said mob/encounter |
| 17:06.51 | nadas | art3mis: i disagree |
| 17:06.58 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: As long as its deactivated for BG's |
| 17:07.02 | nadas | those people are the ones who ensure progression |
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| 17:07.11 | art3mis | i believe that if you're there for the kill you helped and as such should get a shot at loot |
| 17:07.12 | nadas | not the ones who show up for 2 random nights |
| 17:07.18 | art3mis | it's as simple as that |
| 17:07.30 | Kalman| | art3mis: And I believe that if you're there for the farm nights, you're an asshole and should have been showing up for progression too. |
| 17:07.33 | Codayus | ....you do know there are many dozens of DKP systems that don't behave anything like you describe, right art3mis? "DKP is stupid" is a generalization so broad, it makes you look like you don't know what your talking about. |
| 17:07.45 | art3mis | what if while grinding you randomly didnt get loot because someone else in the zone had been there killing for days before you showed up? |
| 17:08.15 | Kalman| | art3mis: Your analogy is flawed on so many levels it hurts me physically. |
| 17:08.17 | nadas | what does random grinding have to do with dkp? |
| 17:08.22 | Mudkipz | lmao |
| 17:08.25 | Mudkipz | this is good |
| 17:08.35 | art3mis | its the same damn thing |
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| 17:08.38 | Kalman| | Mudkipz: You have about 20 more minutes, then I'm on lunch break. :) |
| 17:08.39 | art3mis | you killed it |
| 17:08.43 | Fin | oh goody, a discussion about *loot distribution* - gosh I'm sure *this* time everyone'll be able to come to a nice reasonable conclusion where everyone is satisfied |
| 17:09.03 | art3mis | and someone is then telling you that you dont actually get the loot or a shot at the loot because other people were more dedicated to clear ing the area |
| 17:09.05 | snurre | Fin: we can only hope ;) |
| 17:09.18 | art3mis | fin: im arguing for the sake of arguing ;P |
| 17:09.25 | Fin | snurre: hope died a long, long time ago |
| 17:09.43 | Kalman| | art3mis: A better analogy is, I'm clearing the mob-filled area around a mining node. You fly in and help kill the last mob. Do we roll for the node? Is that fair? |
| 17:09.44 | Fin | art3mis: is there ever any other motive? :) |
| 17:09.54 | art3mis | fin: for me, rarely ;) |
| 17:09.55 | snurre | Fin: just like my soul then |
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| 17:10.11 | Fin | RIP World Peace |
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| 17:10.48 | Cryect | [Ammo]: So much better reading Violation's <100 Lines for reading SWS Data |
| 17:11.16 | Mudkipz | o yeah, I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this but |
| 17:11.17 | RogueShadow | This dkp discussion makes me laugh. :) thanks for having it. |
| 17:11.19 | liquiem | argh, dont compare shitty thinks like mining nodes with 186h reset loot |
| 17:11.26 | art3mis | Kalman|: thats not really accurate either ;P however if you kept wiping on that last mob and couldnt beat it without help from the new person ....... |
| 17:11.30 | Mudkipz | sometimes a whole class (mostly warlocks) disappears from violation |
| 17:11.36 | Kalman| | art3mis: How do you know? |
| 17:11.36 | Psylo` | is there a cartograph and violation devlopper here ? |
| 17:11.48 | Mudkipz | usually i just tick and untick listening to DM then reset both times and it's fixed :-/ |
| 17:11.49 | Kalman| | Honestly, you're full of shit if you think you can categorically say those 5 people were the sole deciding factor. |
| 17:12.00 | art3mis | Kalman|: same way you seem to know that this time it was all because you were there ;P |
| 17:12.08 | Dustwhisper | If i want to create a simple options-screen, what is the easiest/most straight forward way of designing it? |
| 17:12.12 | stavmar | Mudkipz: definitely noticing that with violation in our raids, happens a lot actually |
| 17:12.22 | art3mis | Kalman|: i can if i look at dpsmeters, or who was tanking or healing ;P |
| 17:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:03] <Iceroth> sag_ich_nicht, the author of that AV mod must be one sad person <--i agree |
| 17:12.51 | Kalman| | art3mis: Meters are not always a good measure of contribution, especially for healing. |
| 17:13.02 | Mudkipz | ^ I agree |
| 17:13.06 | Fin | ckknight: ping |
| 17:13.17 | art3mis | nope but they give a guideline that can be used to determine contribution |
| 17:13.18 | Psylo` | the cartographer window flick infernally when i mouse over the minimap button and the violation window don't open when i click on Violation in Fubar |
| 17:13.18 | RogueShadow | hmm... I wish Blizzard would convert to my local time for me. I'm gonna go request that they add a feature to adjust thier times to your local client time on the main screen when they tell you when your server should be back up. |
| 17:13.20 | Iceroth | i'm gonna unobfuscate it just for fun |
| 17:13.23 | Mudkipz | dpsmeters are there to gauge the raids optimal dps and to check for slackers |
| 17:13.26 | Mudkipz | there is no I win in dps |
| 17:13.34 | vrak | i seem to recall seeing an addon that just skips the monkeychatter many merchants greet you with before you get to their shop proper, can anyone enlighten me? |
| 17:13.40 | Codayus | art3mis: I originally thought the issue was that you didn't understand DKP. I have changed my mind; I believe the issue is actually that you don't understand *raiding* particularly in the modern TBC environment. |
| 17:13.44 | art3mis | if old priest is WAY down on the healing and new priest is WAY up on it and you win, who do you think tried harder? |
| 17:13.46 | Kalman| | vrak: Automaton's skip gossip option. |
| 17:13.59 | Codayus | 5 good people cannot carry a raid of idiots any more. |
| 17:14.06 | Fin | RogueShadow: adding and subtracting is hard for me, too |
| 17:14.14 | Kalman| | Codayus: Once you're out of Kara, anyway. |
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| 17:14.29 | snurre | sag_ich_nicht: How can you possibly call a person who so obviously made an addon purely for himself and his own sad? isn't it sadder to start dissing others for not doing a job they have no reason to do, but one you could do yourself? |
| 17:14.31 | Fin | vrak: Automaton |
| 17:14.36 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Looks at the localization file; he's planning on passing at least some tables with functions in. |
| 17:14.38 | Zek | moo |
| 17:14.41 | shieldb | art3mis, that depends on the encounter, healing assignments, etc. In general it can be decent info, but you need to put it into context |
| 17:14.43 | Mudkipz | LOL?! |
| 17:14.45 | sag_ich_nicht | snurre: huh? |
| 17:14.50 | Antiarc|Work | We should keep a very close eye on the 2.x series as he posts releases |
| 17:14.51 | Fin | 5 points to Kalman| for post pippage |
| 17:14.53 | sag_ich_nicht | snurre: i think i said the addon is unfair, nothing else |
| 17:14.57 | art3mis | Codayus: its not so much that, its the idealogical beleif that in a guild you're there for the betterment of the guild and that its a commune of sorts not a reward those who've been there longest simply because they've been ther the longest, its about getting everyone stuff they all need to progress further |
| 17:15.00 | sag_ich_nicht | what are you talking about snurre? o_O |
| 17:15.02 | Antiarc|Work | Because I have a really, really, really bad feeling about this. |
| 17:15.02 | RogueShadow | Fin: :) I guess the only problem is I always forget my number. The problem will vanish with memorization. |
| 17:15.10 | snurre | [19:12] <sag_ich_nicht> [19:03] <Iceroth> sag_ich_nicht, the author of that AV mod must be one sad person <--i agree |
| 17:15.14 | snurre | goes to both of you tho :p |
| 17:15.28 | Mudkipz | you do understand that people have different jobs in the raid. a priest might not have to heal as much when assigned to a tank that's taking less damage. It's doesn't mean he's not outputting well.. |
| 17:15.39 | sag_ich_nicht | " isn't it sadder to start dissing others for not doing a job they have no reason to do, but one you could do yourself?" |
| 17:15.40 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 17:15.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i meant that part snurre |
| 17:15.51 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Well I figured he planned to use the code he wrote :-p |
| 17:15.51 | Kalman| | art3mis: The betterment of the guild is best served by rewarding people who contribute more. This is most easily correlated to attendance, under the assumption that bad players get kicked. |
| 17:15.59 | art3mis | i udnerstand WHY it exists, and WHY people use it, i don't however believe that its a system that should be used |
| 17:16.01 | snurre | you can convert the addon to work for alliance if you think it's so unfair |
| 17:16.04 | shieldb | on the other hand if people know healing meters are being closely monitored then they may just be spamming max rank heals to bump themselves up higher :P |
| 17:16.06 | Fin | RogueShadow: actually I forget shit like that all the time (or rather, I'm incapable of remembering certain simple things apparently) - I sellotape little notes to my monitor now instead |
| 17:16.07 | snurre | that would even it |
| 17:16.16 | Kalman| | art3mis: Thus, allowing people who don't show up to be on an even footing with people who do, is a bad system. |
| 17:16.23 | art3mis | not really |
| 17:16.28 | Kalman| | Absolutely. |
| 17:16.32 | art3mis | shrug nope |
| 17:16.33 | sag_ich_nicht | snurre: he intentionally protected it against alliance using it |
| 17:16.38 | Kalman| | The correct solution to your problem is to kick the bad players. |
| 17:16.42 | vrak | Kalman|, Fin: thanks |
| 17:16.42 | art3mis | laugh |
| 17:16.43 | Fin | it's not a bad system, it's quite a clever system, but it has particular problems that show up in certain situations |
| 17:17.05 | Fin | so, it's like, not perfect |
| 17:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 17:17.12 | sag_ich_nicht | off to shattered halls i go |
| 17:17.14 | sag_ich_nicht | >_> |
| 17:17.15 | Kalman| | Fin: Long-term it has a lot of problems and is less "efficient" in the sense of overall guild improvement. |
| 17:17.16 | packetlss | retards will fuck any system, whichever you use |
| 17:17.17 | snurre | no, he only intentionally did *not* develop that feature |
| 17:17.24 | sag_ich_nicht | snurre |
| 17:17.28 | sag_ich_nicht | he has ASCII scrambling |
| 17:17.28 | Fin | Kalman|: you just said what I said in a different way |
| 17:17.30 | sag_ich_nicht | buff scanning |
| 17:17.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and what not |
| 17:17.33 | art3mis | ive also been in too many companies where length of employ outweights skill |
| 17:17.35 | sag_ich_nicht | to ensure you are not alliance |
| 17:17.42 | art3mis | thus adding to my bias ;P |
| 17:17.46 | snurre | just remove it when you're converting it then |
| 17:17.47 | NeoTron | Cryect: so I have a feature request for recount - when you view a timeline segment, show the average value (per second) of the metrics shown |
| 17:17.57 | Kalman| | Fin: Well, I identified the particular problem specifically. :p |
| 17:18.02 | NeoTron | and if you mark a section, show the average for the marked time period |
| 17:18.14 | Uhuru | the cartographer window flick infernally when i mouse over the minimap button and the violation window don't open when i click on Violation in Fubar |
| 17:18.14 | NeoTron | that'd rock |
| 17:18.30 | Cryect | as a line or as a number under where you select/enable? |
| 17:18.33 | Kalman| | art3mis: Last time I'll say it - DKP is not a solution to social problems. Stop trying to use it as one, or blame it for them. |
| 17:18.36 | Iceroth | snurre, "How can you possibly call a person who so obviously made an addon purely for himself and his own sad?" -- because he put it to curse, perhaps? |
| 17:18.44 | snurre | you know, he didn't have to release the addon at all.. it's obviously only a tool he developed for himself and his guild to give themselves an advantage.. an advantage anyone can get if they make an effort |
| 17:18.56 | shieldb | I'd go back to Kalman|'s example from earlier. We've had karathress in SSC on farm for over a month now. I've been there for every kill and passing on other upgrades so that I can snag the chest if it ever drops off of him. Should a new rogue who shows up to two days worth of raiding (which includes a karathress kill) be up for the chest on even footing? |
| 17:19.02 | Fin | Kalman|: you've been writing too many essays lately huh :) reading stuff and rephrasing it to show you've processed it :P |
| 17:19.06 | Cryect | If you have social issues in your guild any loot system is going to have issues :-p |
| 17:19.07 | art3mis | so you're telling me that loot distro in a raid has no social attachment? |
| 17:19.17 | snurre | an advantage? yes, absolutely... i loved doing 40man guild AV raids.. but unfair? no wai |
| 17:19.23 | RogueShadow | Would you say DKP is good in situations where all players are skilled equally? |
| 17:19.24 | Kalman| | Fin: I haven't had to write an essay in about 3 years. :p |
| 17:19.39 | Fin | it has no social attaché |
| 17:19.41 | Kalman| | You said "It has problems." I said "this is the problem with it." |
| 17:19.47 | Fin | Kalman|: I apologise |
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| 17:20.07 | Fin | my apologies |
| 17:20.08 | Kalman| | For what? :p |
| 17:20.10 | NeoTron | Cryect: number is fine - I want to be able to to go to DrBoom (or any real encounter for that matteR) and see what my DPS was... befor eI got that add |
| 17:20.13 | art3mis | shieldb: that would depend entirely on the guild wouldnt it ;P(all dkp aside) |
| 17:20.18 | NeoTron | and then compare past encounters with drboom |
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| 17:20.28 | Fin | no need to rub it in |
| 17:20.41 | Fisker- | damn draenei priests are OP |
| 17:20.49 | NeoTron | I don't think there would abe any beenfit of showing a straight line thoguh althoguh from a visualization point of view, the overall average might be interesting too |
| 17:20.55 | Cryect | Anyone else notice the SVN is slow |
| 17:21.04 | art3mis | shieldb: if the RL at the time just said roll, you'd have a hissing, if new rouge actually thought he deserved it he'd throw a hissing, but as long as new rogue entered into it with the knowledge that there wasnt a chance in hell of him getting it and he came along, dkp or not the chest is yours |
| 17:21.09 | shieldb | art3mis, yeah it would depend on the guild, but I'm saying that would be a huge issue for me if it was a "dkp only retains the last two days for raiding" system |
| 17:21.20 | art3mis | oh we're back to that? |
| 17:21.45 | Fin | back like Shaq |
| 17:21.47 | Fin | and half as tall |
| 17:22.29 | Fin | who wants a cookie |
| 17:22.30 | art3mis | well technically under that system it would depend on what else dropped i spose, but in general if you were both there for both days you'd both have a shot at it |
| 17:22.36 | art3mis | regardless of other forces at work |
| 17:22.46 | Fin | dark and sinister forces no doubt |
| 17:22.56 | art3mis | going on the assumption that the previous run neither of you got anything |
| 17:22.58 | Fin | working deviously in the night |
| 17:23.17 | Fin | plotting against the rightful owners of the potentialoot |
| 17:23.24 | Dustwhisper | what would be nice |
| 17:23.29 | Fin | blowjobs! |
| 17:23.31 | Dustwhisper | if someone extended Recounts death log thingy |
| 17:23.33 | Fin | oh |
| 17:23.38 | Dustwhisper | and have it synched |
| 17:23.43 | Dustwhisper | so you could see which healer targeted the person that died |
| 17:23.46 | Dustwhisper | and if they even tried healing him |
| 17:23.47 | art3mis | i wish omen didnt clear its threat so damn fast ;P |
| 17:23.52 | Dustwhisper | and even synch that towards a "Healing list" |
| 17:24.11 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41768 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua: Recount - Drycoded support for health amounts when reporting death logs (whoops >_>) |
| 17:24.21 | Cryect | Damn it so FixLog Strings is at fault for breaking Recount |
| 17:24.28 | Dustwhisper | If i want to create a simple options-screen, what is the easiest/most straight forward way of designing it? |
| 17:24.37 | shieldb | Dustwhisper, you could just check healing recieved or healing done on recount |
| 17:24.48 | art3mis | Dustwhisper: look at any of the fu_xxx addons? |
| 17:24.49 | Kalman| | Cryect: I don't run FLS and I still had that issue where people would no-show. :/ |
| 17:24.58 | Cryect | Kalman|: no not that issue |
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| 17:25.10 | Cryect | Kalman|: That issue I think was fixed, its an issue with data being wrong |
| 17:25.24 | Dustwhisper | That won't actually tell me which healer was targeting the person that died before he died though shieldb |
| 17:25.32 | shieldb | I've found that to be really handy for when a tank goes down, just look at the last 20 seconds on recount and compare damage taken vs. healing done |
| 17:25.37 | Kalman| | Cryect is now accepting paypal donations for the "Beat SWS FixLogStrings author with a panel hammer" fund. |
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| 17:25.47 | Fin | shieldb: eh? |
| 17:25.49 | shieldb | oh, you mean for "random person" ? |
| 17:25.53 | shieldb | or for a tank? |
| 17:25.58 | Fin | shieldb: surely damage taken is just slightly more than healing done? |
| 17:26.01 | Fin | every time? |
| 17:26.10 | Cryect | I've been accepting those for a long time! Need the money for the plane ticket |
| 17:26.14 | NeoTron | Cryect: actually what I really miss from recount is the ability to get a list of recorded encounters, click on it and get the data for that encounter in the normal "bar" wnidow |
| 17:26.18 | Cryect | I'll provide the hammer |
| 17:26.24 | shieldb | well obviously, but you can tell then if it was burst damage or a lack of healing |
| 17:26.26 | Dustwhisper | thought i heard here in the past about an addon that lets you design UIs ingame ? Like a LUA GUI editor that you can use to run GUI code ingame |
| 17:26.30 | Cryect | NeoTron: So do I :-p |
| 17:26.34 | NeoTron | or perhaps even get the data for the selected time period :P |
| 17:26.39 | NeoTron | ok good to know. heh |
| 17:27.26 | shieldb | Dustwhisper, checking targets may not be very accurate even if you could do that, though |
| 17:27.27 | NeoTron | shieldb: that's a nice usage case |
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| 17:27.42 | shieldb | a lot of people use mouseover/click to cast where they never actually target something |
| 17:27.50 | Fin | Dustwhisper: if there is one, I hope it's called Loogy or Luigi or Lugua |
| 17:28.02 | Kalman| | I hope it's called Mario. |
| 17:28.05 | subsonic | yeah, on my priest, I use clique |
| 17:28.17 | Fin | I never target who I'm healing, ever |
| 17:28.18 | subsonic | great mod |
| 17:28.32 | Fin | I always have the MT /focus'd, and whoever he's tanking targetting |
| 17:28.38 | Fin | s/ing/ed/ |
| 17:28.41 | KarlThePagan | what would be really cool for Assessment is a list of fights, indexed by the top damage taking npc |
| 17:28.42 | subsonic | yeah |
| 17:28.55 | Uhuru | I'd go back to Kalman|'s example from earlier. We've had karathress in SSC on farm for over a month now. I've been there for every kill and passing on other upgrades so that I can snag the chest if it ever drops off of him. Should a new rogue who shows up to two days worth of raiding (which includes a karathress kill) be up for the chest on even footing? |
| 17:28.55 | Uhuru | [19:23] <Fin> Kalman|: you've been writing too many essays lately huh :) reading stuff and rephrasing it to show you've processed it :P |
| 17:28.59 | Uhuru | oups |
| 17:29.21 | Fin | blowjobs! |
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| 17:29.53 | art3mis | ya know what i like about arguing in here? |
| 17:29.55 | Uhuru | [Ammo] the cartographer window flick infernally when i mouse over the minimap button and the violation window don't open when i click on Violation in Fubar |
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| 17:30.06 | Fin | blowjobs? |
| 17:30.18 | art3mis | no-one ever gets super pissy and at the end we just all sorta stop without any petty bickering ;P |
| 17:30.24 | Fin | oh |
| 17:30.30 | Fin | well, hardly ever |
| 17:30.31 | NeoTron | my sandbox is bigger than your sandbox! |
| 17:30.36 | art3mis | true |
| 17:30.43 | Fin | I bet my sandbox's dad could have your sandbox's dad in a fight |
| 17:30.49 | art3mis | yeah but yer sandbox has 5 cats that use it as a littler box, mine doesnt ;P |
| 17:30.49 | Kalman| | art3mis: That and it's my lunch break. Later! :) |
| 17:30.56 | art3mis | laugh kal |
| 17:30.59 | art3mis | have fun! |
| 17:31.00 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:31.20 | Fin | beer! |
| 17:31.21 | art3mis | fin: could have? |
| 17:31.33 | Fin | has! |
| 17:31.40 | art3mis | have == beat up ? |
| 17:31.48 | Fin | ohh |
| 17:31.50 | art3mis | HAVE AT YOU!@ |
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| 17:32.23 | Fin | yeah, if you said "my dad could have your dad any day" it means he could beat him up without trying, sort of thing |
| 17:32.31 | art3mis | really? |
| 17:32.32 | Fin | I never realised how little that makes sense until now |
| 17:32.40 | Fin | it does where I come from |
| 17:32.41 | art3mis | it sounds more like a "my two dads" kind of thing |
| 17:32.55 | Fin | I said it without thinking, it sounds totally natural to me |
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| 17:33.04 | art3mis | where ya from? |
| 17:33.39 | Fin | South East England |
| 17:33.44 | art3mis | ahh |
| 17:33.51 | Fin | born in Surrey, went to school in Sussex, lived in London |
| 17:33.53 | art3mis | yer british |
| 17:33.58 | art3mis | that explains HEAPS |
| 17:33.58 | Fin | sounds quite posh, but I'm not really |
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| 17:34.20 | art3mis | ive taken to using yeah at the end of sentences |
| 17:34.28 | art3mis | not sure why |
| 17:34.52 | Fin | oh yeah? |
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| 17:35.19 | art3mis | i guess it sounds less condescending than "right" as in "you know that wont work, yeah?" instead of "you know that wont work right?" |
| 17:35.39 | Fin | teacher in class is explaining about double negatives |
| 17:35.57 | Fin | she shows her pupils how two negatives can be understood as a positive |
| 17:36.10 | Fin | however, she explains, two positives can't make a negative |
| 17:36.17 | Fin | smart-alec at the back of the class pipes up... |
| 17:36.18 | art3mis | met a gorgeous brit bird last night too, of course being canadian im automatically awesome ;P |
| 17:36.20 | Fin | ... "yeah, right" |
| 17:36.26 | art3mis | haha |
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| 17:36.43 | Fin | oh, you met our good looking female? congratulations |
| 17:36.46 | Fin | lovely girl |
| 17:36.47 | Uhuru | [Ammo] ? |
| 17:36.54 | Chompers | hey ckk |
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| 17:37.03 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:37.08 | Fin | guten aben herr ck |
| 17:37.09 | ckknight | not here for long |
| 17:37.12 | art3mis | i love people in this city, they get all pissy when i say things until i say but im canadian, at which point it goes from pissy to oh well then |
| 17:37.30 | Fin | canadians are some of my favourite people |
| 17:37.37 | Fin | and I like to generalise |
| 17:37.38 | art3mis | we're everyones fav people |
| 17:37.40 | Uhuru | hey ckknight |
| 17:37.45 | art3mis | cept americans ;P |
| 17:37.46 | Fin | it helps me understand the world |
| 17:37.56 | Fin | only because americans don't know you exist! |
| 17:37.57 | Mudkipz | art3mis, you're right about that |
| 17:38.01 | Mudkipz | abooooooooooooooot |
| 17:38.03 | Fin | I'm sure they'd love you if they met you |
| 17:38.11 | art3mis | i say this brand of luggage in times square the other day called "American tourist" and on it was a HUGE maple leaf |
| 17:38.14 | Uhuru | is this normal that the cartopgrapher window appear on mouseover the minimap button not on click ? |
| 17:38.16 | ckknight | it's not that America doesn't know, they just forget |
| 17:38.20 | art3mis | say==saw |
| 17:38.23 | ckknight | Canada is like America's attic |
| 17:38.28 | ckknight | you forget it's up there sometimes |
| 17:38.33 | Mudkipz | hahahahah |
| 17:38.42 | art3mis | ckknight: but its were all yer good stuff is usually stored ;P |
| 17:38.43 | Fin | that's a great analogy |
| 17:38.48 | Fin | I'm telling all my canadian friends that |
| 17:38.54 | Fin | right on! |
| 17:38.57 | Fin | eh |
| 17:39.10 | art3mis | heh theres always the "suck it bitch, we're bigger AND we're on top" |
| 17:39.14 | snurre | canada is america.. so is mexico, bolivia and peru.. :p |
| 17:39.33 | Fin | england is europe! |
| 17:39.36 | art3mis | or "we're bigger and on top, in prison that makes you our bitch" |
| 17:39.42 | Antiarc|Work | Can anyone translate "Knock Away" into French for me? KTM says "Renversement", but someone localized it in Threat as "Repousser au loin" |
| 17:40.01 | snurre | I just call you all US'ians |
| 17:40.03 | art3mis | no way anti |
| 17:40.13 | art3mis | the present version sounds awesome |
| 17:40.26 | [Ammo] | the present one means kicked in the balls or soemthing? :) |
| 17:40.36 | Uhuru | Antiar1 what refer to "knock away" this is an ability ? |
| 17:40.39 | Fin | sure, "Knockez l'awais" |
| 17:40.40 | subsonic | really, why translate, people should learn english, or not play |
| 17:40.41 | NeoTron | Coups loin according to google :P |
| 17:40.51 | Antiarc|Work | Uhuru: Yes, a mob ability. |
| 17:40.55 | art3mis | fin: england hasnt been europe since you lost the highlands ;P |
| 17:41.02 | NeoTron | Renversement translates to Inversion |
| 17:41.06 | Fin | we had the highlands? |
| 17:41.07 | NeoTron | again according to google |
| 17:41.08 | Uhuru | Antiarc|Work this is renversement |
| 17:41.14 | Antiarc|Work | Uhuru: Thank you. |
| 17:41.18 | Uhuru | no pb |
| 17:41.19 | art3mis | way way way back ;P |
| 17:41.25 | Fin | awesome |
| 17:41.27 | subsonic | Is anybody on crushridge? |
| 17:41.29 | Dustwhisper | another newbiequestion! When using CreateFrame to make a button how do you set it to like no parents? As in it's a global button just floating on the screen >_< |
| 17:41.30 | Fin | I'm telling my scottish friends that |
| 17:41.38 | Fin | they love being taunted about their homeland |
| 17:41.40 | subsonic | crushridge / alliance |
| 17:41.46 | NeoTron | hehe. Trepusser au loin google translated to To push back with far |
| 17:41.49 | Fin | I can tell by the way tone of their shouting |
| 17:41.51 | Uhuru | can someone help me with a cartographer and violation problem ? |
| 17:42.17 | art3mis | wait england whats that you're hiding behind your back? nothing, just a bunch of random little countries, what about the faulkans? oh those we totally need! for strategic sheep purposes |
| 17:42.19 | [Ammo] | update all your addons uhuru |
| 17:42.23 | [Ammo] | I have no issues here |
| 17:42.27 | Uhuru | [Ammo] this is done |
| 17:43.19 | Fin | oh no! my god! we don't have an empire anymore because we gave most of it back to its original owners *without noticing*! |
| 17:43.29 | art3mis | "i claim india in the name of the queen" "you cant do that we were here first" "doesnt count" "doesnt count? there's 500million of us" "but do you have a flag?" |
| 17:43.57 | syeren | ckknight, could you have a quick look at something for me please :)? |
| 17:44.02 | Dustwhisper | What do you pass to "parentFrame" in CreateFrame if you want your button to be anywhere on screen and not connected to anything? |
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| 17:44.06 | art3mis | for some reason i find eddie izzard incredibly funny ;P |
| 17:44.10 | ckknight | syeren: no, I'm about to go |
| 17:44.10 | Fin | still a little better than claiming they were hiding weapons of mass destruction |
| 17:44.18 | art3mis | laugh |
| 17:44.19 | syeren | Awww, it's a bug in CowTip :( |
| 17:44.24 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41770 10Recount/ (Recount.toc embeds.xml): Recount - Forgot to include embeds.xml |
| 17:44.27 | Fin | oh! eddie izzard, right :) he's one of my heroes |
| 17:44.31 | art3mis | i loved our prime ministers excuse for not joining in |
| 17:44.54 | art3mis | "sorry we've got forces in turkey, cant send ya any to iraq" |
| 17:44.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41771 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added localizations for "Wing Buffet" and "Knock Away" |
| 17:44.58 | Fin | that's like, "ask a stupid question..." |
| 17:45.01 | Uhuru | cartographer window is opened on mouseover the minimap button not on click and violation window don't open when i click on "violation" in fubar, both problems appears today after the update [Ammo] |
| 17:45.01 | art3mis | oh and the daily show when the queen visited america |
| 17:45.07 | art3mis | my god |
| 17:45.13 | Fin | the daily show is... just... so... good |
| 17:45.28 | Fin | incidentallment |
| 17:45.31 | bindi | anyone has a clue if you can enable the proximity checker in bigwigs manually on whatever encounter? |
| 17:45.54 | Fin | /bigwigs enable proximitycheckermanuallyonwhateverencounter |
| 17:46.00 | bindi | :< |
| 17:46.01 | Fin | just a guess |
| 17:46.14 | Uhuru | and i get 18 errors in my bugsack |
| 17:46.19 | art3mis | hey fin have you watch meadowlands yet? |
| 17:46.25 | Fin | no? |
| 17:46.25 | art3mis | watched |
| 17:46.28 | Fin | wassat? |
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| 17:46.32 | art3mis | its this wierd ass british show on hbo |
| 17:46.48 | art3mis | about a commune cul-de-sac community of criminals |
| 17:47.03 | Dustwhisper | What do you pass to "parentFrame" in CreateFrame if you want your button to be anywhere on screen and not connected to anything? Yyeye im a spanner |
| 17:47.11 | art3mis | nearest thing i can compare it to is twin peaks from the uk |
| 17:47.20 | Fin | I only get HBO 2 in English :( |
| 17:47.24 | Fin | thank god for the internet |
| 17:47.29 | art3mis | check it out |
| 17:47.31 | vhaarr | bindi: there wouldn't be much point to it |
| 17:47.34 | art3mis | its pretty good |
| 17:47.37 | vhaarr | binder: since it wouldn't know what distance to use |
| 17:47.39 | Fin | art3mis: thanks, I will |
| 17:47.41 | snurre | ooh, overlord finished dl'ing |
| 17:47.43 | Gagorian | Dustwhisper: Spanner as in http://www.logodesignweb.com/stockphoto/objects/tools/spanner.jpg |
| 17:47.44 | art3mis | and the mother and daughter in it are pretty cute |
| 17:47.47 | bindi | manual maybe vhaarr, dunno |
| 17:47.50 | bindi | would be nice at least |
| 17:47.55 | bindi | or some addon that does the same? |
| 17:48.02 | Fin | ah |
| 17:48.06 | Fin | only two episodes: http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/4044 |
| 17:48.23 | Fin | better than a kick in the teeth, though |
| 17:48.35 | subsonic | haha |
| 17:49.12 | subsonic | :) |
| 17:49.19 | ckknight | Fin: pong? |
| 17:49.36 | subsonic | I don't llaugh at that, I laugh at the comparison! Sheehs |
| 17:49.49 | art3mis | http://www.thearchers.co.uk/Archers/FileDocs/jpg/1040.jpg <-- the daughter |
| 17:49.59 | Gagorian | Dustwhisper: Have you tried passing nil? :P |
| 17:49.59 | art3mis | and there have only been 2 aired eps so yer not far beyhind ;P |
| 17:50.04 | Chompers | hello thar |
| 17:50.19 | Dustwhisper | yea |
| 17:50.20 | Dustwhisper | didnt show =D |
| 17:50.26 | subsonic | art3mis: she's got DSL |
| 17:50.35 | Gagorian | Dustwhisper: Well, have you invoked show on it? |
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| 17:50.46 | Fin | ckknight: I, er, was wondering if you minded me asking a few questions about Tooltips, or could tell me a good place to find out some basic stuff |
| 17:51.01 | subsonic | Can frames be drawn without making XML for them? |
| 17:51.06 | ckknight | well, what do you want to know? |
| 17:51.09 | ckknight | yes, subsonic |
| 17:51.12 | Fin | just picked you randomly |
| 17:51.13 | Fin | :) |
| 17:51.22 | art3mis | dsl? |
| 17:51.23 | Gagorian | Dustwhisper: Just pass UIParent |
| 17:51.34 | subsonic | art3mis: Dick sucking lips :) |
| 17:51.37 | art3mis | laugh |
| 17:51.40 | Lywellyn | ckknight is never picked randomly. He's specifically sought out. |
| 17:51.43 | Fin | do they get redrawn every time you mouse over someone? and is there a way of caching them? |
| 17:51.44 | art3mis | lucy cohu is the mom |
| 17:51.50 | Dustwhisper | thx Gagorian ill try that |
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| 17:52.13 | subsonic | is there a benefit of making XML frames over making them in lua? |
| 17:52.21 | Fin | Lywellyn: well yes, I admit it, the tooltip addon did sort of nudge me |
| 17:52.35 | Lywellyn | Fin: lol |
| 17:52.37 | art3mis | http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0865546/meadowlands_108_315.jpg.html |
| 17:54.19 | Kinkx | XRS doesn't display who is Dead accurate anymore, showed 2 people dead when there were none, and showed 0 dead when there was 1 dead :< |
| 17:54.30 | KarlThePagan | Antiar1, ping - my guild is doing void reaver tonight, 2 shadow priests, one with both aggro reducing talents and the other with only shadow affinity |
| 17:54.44 | Fin | I'd read through code, but I was hoping to get an idea of how tooltips basically worked first (I haven't found a lot of the code very easy to follow without much experience, and I'm fick) |
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| 17:55.03 | Fin | obviously not hard enough |
| 17:55.12 | Cryect | tooltips are really easy |
| 17:55.14 | Fin | (said the vicar to the nun) |
| 17:55.20 | Kinkx | Btw, whats all this backup000.xml stuff WAU is making? |
| 17:55.33 | Fin | Cryect: how comes they're always breaking when you have more than one addon affecting them, then? :) |
| 17:55.36 | Antiarc|Work | KarlThePagan: Yay! please make sure they're up to date :D |
| 17:55.45 | Fin | Cryect: but please, go on |
| 17:55.54 | Cryect | Fin: Because there is no code to make sure no other addon is using them at the moment? |
| 17:56.03 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc|Work, just the priest data files? looking now, any tips on what to change? |
| 17:56.17 | Antiarc|Work | KarlThePagan: Wait, what do you want to change? |
| 17:56.30 | Fin | Cryect: when you said "tooltips are really easy", I'm sorry for interrupting, please go on :) |
| 17:56.31 | Antiarc|Work | KarlThePagan: Make sure that they have Threat and their GUI up to date |
| 17:56.35 | Cryect | Fin: you show the tooltip, clear the lines, and then add lines (with commands like :Show, :SetOwner, :AddLine etc) |
| 17:56.38 | KarlThePagan | yea they do |
| 17:56.40 | Cryect | thats it |
| 17:57.01 | Fin | Cryect: do they get redrawn every time you mouseover something? are they cached at all? |
| 17:57.10 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc|Work, just want to tweak the data files in case the numbers turn out wrong... we might spend some time in gnomeregan before the raid to make sure |
| 17:57.21 | Antiarc|Work | KarlThePagan: Ah, you mean for the knockback reduction? |
| 17:57.22 | Cryect | Fin: Not cached at all so they get recreated anytime an addon tries to do something with it |
| 17:57.36 | Cryect | Fin: Addons that are smart won't try to keep recreating the same tooltip every frame |
| 17:57.58 | Cryect | Fin: you should only be trying to create the tooltip OnEnter events then hiding it OnLeave |
| 17:58.01 | Fin | Cryect: I've seen people say "OnUpdate is bad" a lot - what's the proper way to recreate a tooltip? and *thanks* for the help, very much appreciated |
| 17:58.07 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc|Work, that and the VT/VE aggro and the effect of shadow affinity and silent resolve on it |
| 17:58.20 | Cryect | OnEnter if its supposed to be shown over something |
| 17:58.21 | KarlThePagan | since we'll be able to directly compare with/without silent resolve |
| 17:58.51 | Cryect | OnUpdate can be used for strange shapes if you make sure to track have you already set the tooltip or not |
| 17:59.06 | ulic | ckknight: CowTip: when I position the UnitTip to any of the Cursor:Bottom options the border and background are not drawn, I just install for the first time like 5 mins ago. |
| 17:59.15 | Cryect | But avoid rewriting the tooltip if it already has what you need |
| 17:59.17 | Fin | Cryect: I've read the docs on WoWWiki for GameToolTip:AddLine() but does that get added every time? I've often seen tooltip lines doubled, my brain is linking these issues |
| 17:59.44 | Antiarc|Work | KarlThePagan: Oh. Uh...let's see |
| 17:59.44 | Fin | OK, OnEnter, got it |
| 17:59.51 | ckknight | ulic: hrm... that seems odd |
| 18:00.05 | Antiarc|Work | priest.lua, line 91 |
| 18:00.08 | KarlThePagan | having assessment up will help me a lot... at least for the VE aggro tests |
| 18:00.12 | Antiarc|Work | It's set to SilentResolve right now |
| 18:00.16 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc|Work, k thx |
| 18:00.16 | Fin | no, you already said, they get recreated |
| 18:00.25 | Antiarc|Work | You can change the callback to modForShadowAffinity to set it to Shadow Affinity |
| 18:00.29 | Antiarc|Work | But I think that Silent Resolve is correct |
| 18:00.43 | KarlThePagan | could it be both? |
| 18:00.44 | Fin | Cryect: I guess there would be problems with addons that *don't* recreate tips every time, where other addons assume a tooltip is |
| 18:00.56 | Cryect | You only want to do your AddLine you only want to do after you've cleared it first |
| 18:01.03 | Antiarc|Work | KarlThePagan: Hrm. I don't think so. My numbers wouldn't really support that. |
| 18:01.05 | KarlThePagan | anyways... I'll be testing |
| 18:01.09 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. Please do. |
| 18:01.10 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc|Work, ok cool |
| 18:01.11 | Cryect | Fin: Right, but its easier to just assume nothing touches your tooltip |
| 18:01.21 | KarlThePagan | yea will try to get her overe to gnomer |
| 18:01.26 | Fin | Cryect: but wouldn't clearing it wipe all the stuff other addons have added? |
| 18:01.26 | Cryect | Fin: Worst case, you can create your own special tooltip (often done for buff checking etc) |
| 18:01.49 | Fin | nono, it's just a line or two I want to add |
| 18:02.15 | Cryect | Fin: Yeah but they shouldn't be using the tooltip if its not entered into their objects |
| 18:02.27 | Fin | Cryect: I don't get you |
| 18:02.38 | Fin | Cryect: I want to add something to player unit frame tooltips |
| 18:02.42 | Cryect | Fin: Oh, then that case you need to hook something to know when they update the tooltip |
| 18:03.13 | Fisker- | Fin sucks :( |
| 18:03.28 | Fin | Cryect: can I hook GameToolTip:AddLine? :) |
| 18:03.28 | Cryect | Fin: Couple ways, hook the function ClearLines then schedule an event |
| 18:03.42 | Fin | Fisker-: only for a fee |
| 18:03.44 | Cryect | this event will execute the next frame then add your lines |
| 18:03.49 | ulic | ckknight: yea screen, bottom is ok, but not cursor, bottom |
| 18:04.08 | Cryect | thats how I would do it you get 1 frame without your lines but prevents potential issues of it being in the wrong spot |
| 18:04.10 | ckknight | what about Cursor, Top? |
| 18:04.24 | Fin | I don't care about the spot, to be honest really, but please go on, this is interesting |
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| 18:04.29 | ulic | that's fine, it's just the different bottom choices |
| 18:04.48 | ulic | it looks like perhaps the border/background frame just has no lenght |
| 18:04.50 | Cryect | Otherwise you could try to hook the gametooltip's :Show() then add your lines whenever its shown on the assumption they won't show the tooltip till they've finished |
| 18:04.57 | kergoth`work | Punkie`: your change to Bars/Hunter.lua in classtimer will ensure that you never see a timer bar for frenzy. the buff on the pet is "Frenzy Effect", not "Frenzy". |
| 18:05.08 | ulic | I can see the top and bottom borders both at the top, with the bottom actually ABOVE the top |
| 18:05.12 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo * r41772 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/libs/: |
| 18:05.12 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_NoteTarget |
| 18:05.12 | CIA-22 | - remove Abacus lib (not used) |
| 18:05.27 | Fin | Cryect: I don't think that would work, from what I've read about GameToolTip:AddLine() |
| 18:05.36 | Fin | (it recommends calling :Show() to update the border) |
| 18:05.36 | Cryect | Fin: What wouldn't work? |
| 18:05.50 | Cryect | Oh doing :Show then adding lines? |
| 18:05.51 | snurre | damnit, this install is so sloow :( |
| 18:06.01 | Cryect | Never tried it since always call :SHow() last |
| 18:06.10 | jme | snurre: what install? |
| 18:06.14 | snurre | overlord |
| 18:06.15 | Cryect | So then you could hook :Show() |
| 18:06.16 | Fin | Cryect: no, adding the lines, which appear initially outside the border of the tooltip, then calling :Show() to fix the border |
| 18:06.21 | ulic | ckknight: also in the GUI config, in the drop down lists for the anchor positions, the options aren't sorted, that is, it has several screen options, then all the cursor, then the rest of the screen options. |
| 18:06.30 | Fin | if more than one addon did that, I'd be adding the line multiple times |
| 18:06.32 | Fin | I think |
| 18:06.37 | ckknight | ulic: that shouldn't be |
| 18:06.41 | Cryect | Fin: Not if you hook :Show right |
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| 18:07.02 | Fin | Cryect: set some flag to say it's already added the line? |
| 18:07.21 | Cryect | Fin: Yeah, you could hook clearlines to clear the flag |
| 18:07.37 | Fin | Cryect: how would I know whether it was the same tooltip being shown or just one that's been hidden then shown again? |
| 18:07.41 | Fin | ahh |
| 18:07.51 | Fin | cool |
| 18:08.14 | Fin | neat |
| 18:08.15 | subsonic | Is SVN set up to read only from anonymous users? |
| 18:08.23 | Cryect | Fin: So summary, hook ClearLines for clearing flag, hook :Show set your flag then add your lines |
| 18:08.32 | Cryect | of course only if the flag isn't already set |
| 18:08.44 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong Fin |
| 18:09.01 | Fin | Cryect: yup, that sounds like a sensible way of doing it |
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| 18:09.29 | Fin | Cryect: thanks for that! much obliged, sir |
| 18:09.59 | Fin | I might save that conversation and stick it on a wiki page, if noone objects |
| 18:10.30 | Cryect | nope |
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| 18:11.17 | Fin | it would help someone like me, at least :) I hope there's nothing wrong technically with it, difficult to know |
| 18:11.24 | Fin | but it makes sense to me |
| 18:12.13 | Cryect | Shrug, some people might not understand the concept of hooking |
| 18:12.13 | Cryect | but they can search for the term |
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| 18:12.17 | Fin | well, that's one thing I've always understood, it's just not something I've used often so things like this aren't obvious |
| 18:13.49 | Fin | anyway, you explained it in simpler terms than I've seen most bits of the WoW API explained, which was great, thanks |
| 18:14.43 | Kinkx | [2007/06/26 20:12:53-1311-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: AceLocale(BigWigsKael'thas Sunstrider): Translation "mc_trigger1" does not exist. |
| 18:15.18 | Fin | bet ckknight's relieved I didn't keep bugging him, explaining stuff to the uneducated is noone's favourite pastime |
| 18:15.19 | Kinkx | [2007/06/26 20:12:53-1311-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: AceLocale(BigWigsKael'thas Sunstrider): Translation "mc_trigger2" does not exist. |
| 18:15.35 | Fin | Kinkx: http://ace.pastey.net/ |
| 18:15.43 | Fisker- | you has a site Fin |
| 18:15.47 | Fisker- | but your image2html sux :( |
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| 18:16.11 | Fin | Fisker-: OK |
| 18:16.23 | Fisker- | KO |
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| 18:17.28 | Thorgard | Is there a Fubar plugin that you can put other Fubar plugins in to sort of.. save Fubar real estate? |
| 18:17.49 | Thorgard | Menu-wise.. |
| 18:17.58 | Fin | CustomFu? |
| 18:18.02 | Mikk | Thorgard: Add a second fubar that only shows when you mouse to the top or bottom |
| 18:18.08 | Fin | that's not exactly what you want though |
| 18:18.14 | Thorgard | Hmm, good idea. |
| 18:19.06 | Fin | Mikk: I do that too, cool |
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| 18:19.17 | Fin | well not cool exactly |
| 18:19.25 | Fin | but er, neat. literally. |
| 18:21.31 | jme | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94940788&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:22.04 | jme | wall of text inc |
| 18:22.41 | Fisker- | moar liek old wall of text amirite? |
| 18:22.50 | jme | true |
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| 18:26.15 | Dustwhisper | recount really does not like Recount_MainWindow:Hide() |
| 18:26.22 | Dustwhisper | creates a small freeze |
| 18:26.26 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r41773 10XRS/XRS.lua: |
| 18:26.26 | CIA-22 | XRS: |
| 18:26.26 | CIA-22 | - forgot to actually update the needed bars |
| 18:26.27 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41774 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: small facelift. |
| 18:26.52 | moonsorrow | Kinkx: should fix your problem |
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| 18:34.45 | nadas | meh, funkeh borked the kael'thas module in bigwigs |
| 18:37.18 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: :( |
| 18:37.38 | nadas | some mc_trigger1 & 2 vars that don't exist anywhere |
| 18:38.54 | Funkeh` | they existed for the attempts i did |
| 18:39.15 | kenlyric | hmmm.. how do I install new bags in baggins? |
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| 18:39.47 | Funkeh` | wait, mc triggers? |
| 18:39.58 | Funkeh` | theres only 1 |
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| 18:40.58 | Gandharva | Any idea in which wow-file I can find all the translated boss emotes? For spells it was "Spell.dbc". Would be nice for localization. |
| 18:40.59 | Funkeh` | ah nvm ill fix it |
| 18:41.07 | nevcairiel | yay solarian down |
| 18:41.48 | nadas | Funkeh`: =) |
| 18:41.50 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r41775 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatHead.lua: Prat: - fix ChatHead error. |
| 18:42.48 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41776 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: bugfix |
| 18:46.03 | phyber | any of you know which font is being used in this screenshot? |
| 18:46.03 | phyber | http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062607173832oc9.jpg |
| 18:46.38 | deltron | lol flirty NE's |
| 18:47.30 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41777 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: |
| 18:47.30 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 18:47.30 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.46 | [dRaCo] | phyber: look like the default clearfont thingy to me |
| 18:49.56 | phyber | I'm using the ClearFont2 default, that's not it :/ |
| 18:53.17 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r41778 10ClearFont2_FontPack/: |
| 18:53.17 | CIA-22 | ClearFont2_FontPack: |
| 18:53.17 | CIA-22 | - Fix slashes in externals paths. \ => / |
| 18:53.37 | phyber | always fun to end up with... |
| 18:53.37 | phyber | drwxr-xr-x 3 phyber phyber 72 2007-06-26 19:52 libs |
| 18:53.37 | phyber | drwxr-xr-x 3 phyber phyber 136 2007-06-26 19:52 libs\AceAddon-2.0 |
| 18:53.37 | phyber | drwxr-xr-x 3 phyber phyber 136 2007-06-26 19:52 libs\AceLibrary |
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| 18:58.28 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41779 10ParserLib/ParserLib.toc: ParserLib: Adds SW_Stats to OpDep to fix SW_FixLogStrings issues |
| 19:00.13 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41780 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.toc: Parser-3.0: Adds SW_Stats to OpDep to fix SW_FixLogStrings issues |
| 19:00.33 | hyperChipmunk | subsonic: re: ace command. it's actually a shell function, but basically, yeah |
| 19:00.34 | Cryect | yawn, now just to worry about people using ParserLib embedded in another addon that doesn't set the op dep right |
| 19:01.36 | [Ammo] | the swstats author should just be shot |
| 19:01.38 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.41 | [Ammo] | ora t least notified :) |
| 19:01.49 | [Ammo] | s/ora t/or at/ |
| 19:02.13 | Cryect | I'm just going to go through and add it to the addons that I can think of at least |
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| 19:02.27 | jme | s/~lart/purl |
| 19:02.33 | jme | s/~lart/purl/ |
| 19:02.47 | kenlyric | lol |
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| 19:02.52 | jme | :/ |
| 19:03.00 | Chompers | [Ammo] |
| 19:03.06 | Chompers | what's wrong with swstats? |
| 19:03.30 | Cryect | SW_FixLogStrings |
| 19:03.49 | Cryect | Its resulting in Assessment, Recount, and Violation having wrong data |
| 19:04.33 | [Ammo] | why someone would run both is a mystery to me |
| 19:04.51 | Chompers | they dont trust VIolation :o |
| 19:04.53 | Fisker- | some people are stupid :( |
| 19:04.55 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41781 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.toc: SimpleCombatLog: Adds SW_Stats to OpDep to fix SW_FixLogStrings issues |
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| 19:05.08 | Matrix110 | We have someone using Prat/Chatmod/Chatlink/SimpleChatmods |
| 19:05.11 | stavmar | [Ammo] the amin reason to try was to compare results i would fguess |
| 19:05.17 | stavmar | main* |
| 19:05.35 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41782 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.toc: SimpleCombatLog: Adds SW_Stats to OpDep to fix SW_FixLogStrings issues (Correctly this time added it to the wrong line before) |
| 19:05.50 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41783 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: |
| 19:05.50 | CIA-22 | AceDB-2.0 (Mikk's branch): |
| 19:05.50 | CIA-22 | - Add confirmation dialog to :DeleteProfile(profile, noconfirm) -- also skippable by holding down shift |
| 19:05.56 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: ahh, man, hours later :) |
| 19:06.15 | Cryect | [Ammo]: Basically they don't trust them so they run SWS which results in wrong data for those addons confirming to them that its the other addons fault when its really SWS's fault |
| 19:06.44 | hyperChipmunk | i got diverted >8\ |
| 19:06.57 | hyperChipmunk | make any progress? |
| 19:07.28 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: Nope, I'm at work and my boss is in so I can't fire up WoW :) |
| 19:08.18 | subsonic | Anybody know if SVN set up as read only for anonymous users? |
| 19:08.40 | Primer | it damn well better be |
| 19:08.56 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.57 | Primer | I'd hate to think there are trojans in my installed mods... |
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| 19:09.04 | Mikk | it is |
| 19:09.12 | Mikk | actually, anonymous users can't even get to the dev svn |
| 19:09.15 | subsonic | Well, I read you have to have an account to use SVN. |
| 19:09.32 | subsonic | So i didn't know if that included read only for anonymous users |
| 19:09.48 | Mikk | anonymous users can get from svn.wowace.com, which is read only |
| 19:09.50 | kergoth`work | svn.wowace.com is for anonymous, nobody can commit there |
| 19:10.04 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41784 10Assessment/Assessment.toc: Assessment: Adds SW_Stats to OpDep to fix SW_FixLogStrings issues |
| 19:10.05 | Nebucadnezar | Quick question - I just loaded ~10 new ace add-ons via WoWace Updater. WoW is now crashing upon UI startup. Is there a simple way to determine which add-on is crashing the UI? |
| 19:10.07 | subsonic | kergoth`work: nice |
| 19:10.37 | Mikk | Nebucadnezar: Possibly look in Logs/FrameXML.log |
| 19:10.52 | Mikk | Nebucadnezar: Otherwise, no, disable some and try again, etc |
| 19:12.27 | Lymmen | Nebucadnezar i also have this problem with the updater sometimes |
| 19:12.40 | Nebucadnezar | Mikk: Doesn't look like any of the logs have been updated today. Error reports are being sent to Blizz, would those logs be of any use? |
| 19:12.59 | Funkeh` | lol no |
| 19:12.59 | Nebucadnezar | Lymmen: This is the first time it has happened to me. |
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| 19:15.00 | Nebucadnezar | Is there anyone around that works specifically on the WoWace Updater app? |
| 19:15.20 | Lywellyn | "It's not a WAU issue." :p |
| 19:15.37 | Nebucadnezar | I know. I had a couple of ?'s/requests |
| 19:16.08 | Lywellyn | No, I'm just quoting the WAU developer ;) |
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| 19:18.06 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41785 10Recount/embeds.xml: Recount - Fixes loading of Parser-3.0 |
| 19:18.12 | Mikk | Nebucadnezar: those logs are of no use to us no =/ |
| 19:19.58 | Nebucadnezar | Mikk: Figures! |
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| 19:22.10 | hyperChipmunk | subsonic: you want this in the tracker frame or the fubar text? |
| 19:22.38 | subsonic | tracker frame |
| 19:22.57 | subsonic | it's already in the fubar text from what I hear |
| 19:23.03 | subsonic | but I don't use fubar :) |
| 19:23.30 | hyperChipmunk | so you just want an extra line at the top? |
| 19:24.12 | subsonic | Yeah, with "completed / total (in list)" since everybody knows to quest total is 25 |
| 19:24.28 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: is the code easy for you to understand? |
| 19:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | no idea |
| 19:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | just installed it |
| 19:24.42 | subsonic | Haha :) |
| 19:24.44 | hyperChipmunk | i don't use the addon |
| 19:25.05 | subsonic | Do you use a quest addon? |
| 19:25.19 | hyperChipmunk | I have used questsfu in the past |
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| 19:25.36 | hyperChipmunk | not really useful anymore @70 |
| 19:25.49 | subsonic | Ahh, true |
| 19:26.08 | subsonic | I have my main 65 and my alt 34, that I like to play :) |
| 19:26.18 | subsonic | nQuestLog owns monkey quest and quest-i-on |
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| 19:26.59 | subsonic | Does questfu display all the time? |
| 19:27.12 | hyperChipmunk | it can |
| 19:27.40 | subsonic | oh yeah, but you have to use fubar right? |
| 19:28.07 | hyperChipmunk | you don't need to use fubar for any fubar addons |
| 19:28.16 | hyperChipmunk | you'll get a minimap button instead |
| 19:28.23 | subsonic | oh interesting |
| 19:28.34 | subsonic | perhaps I should just try questfu before I waste your time :) |
| 19:28.40 | hyperChipmunk | too late =p |
| 19:28.48 | subsonic | sorry! |
| 19:28.50 | subsonic | haha |
| 19:29.06 | subsonic | nQuestLog is way compact |
| 19:29.42 | hyperChipmunk | haven't done .xml in forever; trying to shake the rust off atm =P |
| 19:29.47 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r41786 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatBuffsData.lua): Threat-1.0: german localization |
| 19:31.34 | Nebucadnezar | Being somewhat new to WAU, where would one post new feature requests? |
| 19:32.02 | hyperChipmunk | send a msg to KarlThePagan or Kaelten |
| 19:32.26 | Nebucadnezar | hyperChipmunk: Via IRC or is there a website forum? |
| 19:32.36 | pastamancer | no fetures for you! |
| 19:32.41 | pastamancer | s/fetures/features/ |
| 19:32.54 | subsonic | What's WAU? |
| 19:33.00 | Kaelten | Nebucadnezar: http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ with the bug reports |
| 19:33.01 | Nebucadnezar | pastamancer: That's not nice! :-P |
| 19:33.09 | subsonic | oh, wow ace updater |
| 19:33.18 | Nebucadnezar | Kaelten: Thanks! |
| 19:34.06 | cryogen | cant omen remember that i want it hidden? |
| 19:34.16 | cryogen | kinda annoying for it to appear every time i summon my shadowfiend |
| 19:34.41 | Kalman| | cryogen: That's because Omen shows when you're in a group or have a pet out. |
| 19:35.05 | Uhuru | i don't know why but since my last add ons update when i click on "Violation" on fubar the violation main window don't open |
| 19:35.15 | Uhuru | someone have an idea ? |
| 19:35.19 | cryogen | Kalman|: i know. hence "cant it remember" |
| 19:35.33 | Mikk | Uhuru: Go into Windows->1->Show |
| 19:36.41 | Uhuru | mikk it works but nothing happen when i click on violation in fubar |
| 19:37.06 | Mikk | Uhuru: Come again? You show the window via Windows->1->show, and then what? |
| 19:37.07 | Uhuru | this is write "click to toggle the bar display" |
| 19:37.16 | Uhuru | and then i close it |
| 19:37.16 | Mikk | Yeah |
| 19:37.35 | Mikk | You have the window showing, and then you click "Violation" in the fubar, and then what happens? |
| 19:37.42 | jme | i just sent my gf the error.wav from BugSack so she could play it to her heart's content, because she absolutelt loves it for some reason. |
| 19:37.49 | Uhuru | Mikk it happens nothing |
| 19:37.51 | jme | absolutely* |
| 19:38.24 | Mikk | Uhuru: Is Violation->Windows->1.somethingsomething->Show checked? |
| 19:38.45 | Nebucadnezar | Kaelten: Ticket allows for assignment. Should there be someone other then KarlthePagan that feature requests are assigned to? |
| 19:38.51 | [Ammo] | uhuru, just delete your saved vars |
| 19:38.55 | [Ammo] | and try then |
| 19:39.15 | Mikk | Violation->Profile->Reset Profile |
| 19:39.16 | hyperChipmunk | jme: buy her Worms =) |
| 19:39.27 | hyperChipmunk | there's a million other sounds just like it |
| 19:39.30 | Uhuru | Mikk i checked "show" but if i close the window and return in Violation->Windows->1.somethingsomething->Show is unchecked |
| 19:39.33 | jme | hyperChipmunk: where from? |
| 19:39.53 | Mikk | Uhuru: How do you close the window? Click [X] on it? |
| 19:40.06 | Uhuru | [Ammo] the violation.lua files in WTF ? i tried this it don't work |
| 19:40.15 | Uhuru | Mikk yes on the X |
| 19:40.28 | Mikk | Clicking [X] on the window is the same as unchecking Show |
| 19:40.38 | Mikk | Don't click [X] unless you want the window to stay closed |
| 19:40.57 | Uhuru | so how should i do ? |
| 19:40.58 | Mikk | If you want to just temporarily hide windows (so you can re-show them later), that's when you click Violation in the fubar |
| 19:41.06 | hyperChipmunk | http://worms.team17.com/ |
| 19:41.34 | Mikk | [Ammo]: What's your take on this? If there's just 1 window, should I forcibly enable/disable show? |
| 19:41.49 | [Ammo] | probably, but it'll confuse people with multiple windows |
| 19:41.52 | Uhuru | mikk oh ok thx |
| 19:41.59 | [Ammo] | maybe just forcibly show/unshow all |
| 19:42.08 | Mikk | That's no good either though |
| 19:42.21 | Mikk | Cause if I have 4 windows setup, but currently show 2 of them |
| 19:42.28 | Mikk | Clicking vio will then cause all 4 windows to be shown |
| 19:43.54 | Mikk | I suppose I could add a warning to clicking the shortcut "All windows are currently configured to be not Shown. You will need to show some windows manually before you can use this shortcut to temporarily hide and show windows." |
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| 19:44.15 | Mikk | Yeah, that'll have to do |
| 19:47.25 | nadas | hrm, not possible to change font on Grid? |
| 19:47.34 | nadas | i have to blame someone |
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| 19:52.14 | [Ammo] | Mikk: sounds good |
| 19:53.59 | Kaelten | Nebucadnezar: nope he's the one |
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| 19:54.30 | Nebucadnezar | Kaelten: Cool. I left it that way when I submitted it. TY! |
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| 19:55.22 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41787 10Violation/ (Violation.lua locales/enUS.lua): Violation: Add a warning for the click-to-toggle-windows shortcut when all windows are configured to be not shown. |
| 19:56.52 | Chompers | [Ammo]s hole? |
| 19:57.10 | Fisker- | indeed |
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| 19:57.19 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/fun/forum-troll/ <- result of kicking someone into their own hole? |
| 19:58.40 | Chompers | i wasn't expecting that |
| 19:58.58 | Josh_Borke | me neither |
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| 19:59.53 | Nebucadnezar | Nebucadnezar is LMAO |
| 20:01.02 | pastamancer | ooh, I can guess what that was without having looked at it |
| 20:01.26 | Mikk | prolly, i'm guessing it's not the first time i paste that here :P |
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| 20:01.39 | pastamancer | goatse? |
| 20:01.42 | Mikk | nono |
| 20:01.47 | pastamancer | oh |
| 20:01.51 | deltron | hmm work safe? |
| 20:01.56 | Mikk | you can click it without feeling sick, scout's honor |
| 20:02.01 | pbostrom | hello g33ks XD |
| 20:02.06 | Mikk | worksafe if you don't have stuckup asses at work |
| 20:02.23 | deltron | lol |
| 20:02.27 | pastamancer | ahaha |
| 20:02.38 | pbostrom | i got some problemos with AGUF, i want to show my buffs below player frame (aura, below) but it wont let me |
| 20:02.41 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r41788 10LittleWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: Added HellfireCitadel/Omor, updates to readme |
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| 20:03.29 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41789 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: add wipemobs |
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| 20:05.29 | pbostrom | any1 got any ideas? |
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| 20:09.23 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r41790 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CoilfangReservoir/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: Threat-1.0: fixed deDE localization |
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| 20:09.55 | stavmar | how come when i make to the background of tooltip in CowTip the cahnges dont register? |
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| 20:11.22 | Gandharva | If I could figure out where blizz puts the boss emotes -.- |
| 20:12.15 | Mikk | Gandharva: serverside |
| 20:13.14 | Gandharva | Mikk: Hm, why that? Spell localization is client side... |
| 20:13.24 | Mikk | good point |
| 20:13.43 | Mikk | prolly be in the localized MPQs then |
| 20:14.54 | jme | is there an aceified version of advanced tradeskill window? |
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| 20:15.11 | Mikk | jme: StitchUI |
| 20:15.14 | Gandharva | Mikk: I searched them all. But could only find files for all localized spells. |
| 20:15.16 | Mikk | but it's quite different |
| 20:15.31 | jme | hm |
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| 20:16.11 | Mikk | Gandharva: could still be serverside and localization selected based on client locale.... ? *shrug* |
| 20:17.05 | Fiddle | bit off topic, but if anyone is interested the developers of Pirates of the Burningsea are having a dev chat in 45 min |
| 20:17.15 | Gandharva | Mikk: I think you are right. Would make localization much more easier. |
| 20:17.19 | NeoTron | Fiddle: here? |
| 20:17.22 | Fiddle | dunno what I think of that game |
| 20:17.30 | FrostByghte | blah, nick always changin |
| 20:17.39 | FrostByghte | over at irc.coldfront.net in #burningsea |
| 20:17.39 | NeoTron | I think I dunno enough to think about the game since it's not out? :P |
| 20:17.55 | Gandharva | Gandharva: But Spells.dbc is better than nothing :) |
| 20:18.15 | Gandharva | Erm... Mikk: But Spells.dbc is better than nothing :) |
| 20:18.46 | NeoTron | NeoTron: I think Gandharva just demonstrated the IRC version of talking to oneself in public |
| 20:18.52 | FrostByghte | unfortunately they didn't announce it very soon, should have announced it a week ago to build some interest |
| 20:18.54 | NeoTron | NeoTron: Yes, I agree |
| 20:19.11 | Gandharva | :P |
| 20:19.34 | NeoTron | FrostByghte: ug. SOE? |
| 20:19.45 | FrostByghte | yes that was my reaction too :( |
| 20:20.00 | FrostByghte | even though they have assured me it isn't like that :) |
| 20:20.01 | NeoTron | hopefully it's a good thing... |
| 20:20.13 | FrostByghte | but I dunno, SOE touches a lot of stuff and it goes poof fast |
| 20:20.22 | Cryect | Boss Emotes/Yells etc are definately serversides |
| 20:20.39 | Cryect | localization is only client side for something the client needs to know instanteous |
| 20:20.40 | NeoTron | so do you have some sort of insider info / personal contact with the devs? |
| 20:21.14 | FrostByghte | well they are there to talk to in the channel |
| 20:21.24 | FrostByghte | they are fairly open with the convo |
| 20:21.48 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41791 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Fix slight oops with indicative checking of reporting targets. (Made channels stay checked when e.g. GUILD was selected) |
| 20:22.52 | jme | Congratulations! You found a bug in phpLDAPadmin. |
| 20:23.03 | jme | why does that scare me? heh |
| 20:23.35 | Gnarfoz | snurre: you there? |
| 20:24.12 | NeoTron | FrostByghte: benefit of soe is the potential of making the game bigger |
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| 20:24.12 | FrostByghte | ya, I wish them well...but SOE is scary |
| 20:24.19 | FrostByghte | sorta like IGE and that odd wowhead deal :) |
| 20:24.28 | FrostByghte | lots of denial but you still have to wonder |
| 20:24.35 | Jaxon | REMEMBER |
| 20:24.39 | Dotted | http://ace.pastey.net/68663 getting this error with LiteStepLite selected as default texture in Violation |
| 20:24.40 | Jaxon | If you read it on the internet, it has to be true |
| 20:24.55 | Dotted | skinned with skinner |
| 20:25.02 | Gandharva | Cryect: So I can stop searching all the MPQ files for boss emotes :) |
| 20:25.36 | FrostByghte | NeoTron: I'm still recovering from SWG :) |
| 20:26.40 | NeoTron | I left SWG before it went entirely to hell |
| 20:26.57 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: Still working on it? |
| 20:27.22 | Josh_Borke | cryect: btw, did i mention that it didn't seem like Recount was obeying my bar texture across reloads? |
| 20:27.28 | hyperChipmunk | yea, got diverted again |
| 20:27.30 | snurre | Gnarfoz: barely |
| 20:27.33 | deltron | SOE killed vanguard |
| 20:27.36 | FrostByghte | I was there on release....I can't remember when I left, about 3 months after that |
| 20:27.37 | deltron | made them rush it out |
| 20:27.43 | Wixi | Anyone know if there are online accounts that act as credit cards? Blizz aren;t accepting my debit card even tho they did a month ago =( |
| 20:27.47 | deltron | that game clearly wasn't ready |
| 20:27.52 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: I'm mostly curious about how you do it so I can compare code. I learn by example |
| 20:27.52 | FrostByghte | I played EQII a bit as well, but it wasn't that fun |
| 20:28.04 | deltron | Wixi: bank of america? |
| 20:28.20 | hyperChipmunk | just got back. got the text showing on the frame, just finding out where the values are to fill it |
| 20:28.52 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: oh wow, that was fast. I couldn't even figure out where the frame was :) |
| 20:29.08 | hyperChipmunk | it's in, uh, createFrames.lua |
| 20:29.12 | Wixi | deltron: UK based |
| 20:29.25 | FrostByghte | man FLS has 10 developers in there, quite a showing...I guess it's mostly about the SOE thing |
| 20:30.23 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: but it looks like he creates a frame for each button |
| 20:30.25 | Gnarfoz | snurre: got any intelligence on what DB the wow backend db servers use? db2? oracle? weird homegrown shit? :D |
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| 20:30.36 | pastamancer | oracle |
| 20:30.37 | Kaydeethree | it's oracle iirc |
| 20:30.45 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: do you just make a new one before the loop? |
| 20:30.51 | hyperChipmunk | subsonic: yea, i just added a..yep |
| 20:30.58 | hyperChipmunk | local title = nQuestLogFrame:CreateFontString("nQuestLogTitle", "OVERLAY", "GameFontNormal") |
| 20:31.01 | hyperChipmunk | title:SetPoint("BOTTOM", nQuestLogFrame, "TOP", 0, 2) |
| 20:31.04 | hyperChipmunk | title:SetText("foo") |
| 20:31.05 | hyperChipmunk | that's all i did |
| 20:31.18 | hyperChipmunk | now I'm just working on changing "foo" to the text you want |
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| 20:31.44 | Hjalte | Is there a website where i can view the current prices on pvp gear? |
| 20:32.41 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: yeah, all the doesn't make sense to me. Did you make nQuestLogTitle in the XML as well? |
| 20:33.07 | Pheredhel | Hi |
| 20:33.18 | subsonic | Pheredhel: hi |
| 20:33.28 | hyperChipmunk | no, that's exactly the extent of what I've done |
| 20:33.47 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: but that still displays "foo"? |
| 20:34.09 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 20:34.37 | Pheredhel | a question about Parser-3.0: it seems to set sourceID = false no matter who is the source ( Dispell, even if I do it myself) any idea? |
| 20:34.53 | Pheredhel | as for the documentation it should set it to "player" |
| 20:35.37 | snurre | Gnarfoz: as they said, it's oracle yeah.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_RAC but i don't know any specifics |
| 20:35.44 | bindi | [Ammo] is it possible to get a 13 yard proximity display on archimonde? |
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| 20:36.04 | subsonic | is CreateFontString a wow api or ace thing? |
| 20:36.20 | Pheredhel | do i miss sometthing or is it a bug ? |
| 20:40.21 | hyperChipmunk | subsonic: in events.lua, there's a function to add the fubar text |
| 20:40.41 | hyperChipmunk | where it says self:SetText(crayon:Colorize(color, iQuests)) |
| 20:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | I just added: nQuestLogTitle:SetText(crayon:Colorize(color, iQuests)) |
| 20:40.51 | hyperChipmunk | after it |
| 20:40.53 | Morghus | Is there some macro or script I can run to destroy what's under my mouse? As in bag contents |
| 20:41.24 | Cryect | Curious how do you get WAU to run batch files? |
| 20:41.25 | hyperChipmunk | that basically makes whatever the fubar text is to be the text on the new title frame |
| 20:41.51 | winkiller | hm, I begin to question ALL dps numbers |
| 20:41.52 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: haha, so simple :) |
| 20:41.54 | hyperChipmunk | line 109 |
| 20:42.03 | subsonic | commit it :) |
| 20:42.07 | Cryect | I've got a batch file to fix SW_FixLogStrings now by renaming it !SW_FixLogStrings if the directory exists and just wondering how to get WAU to use it |
| 20:42.20 | winkiller | glad MH+mongoose, latros+15 agi , GotW Blessing of might => 570 dps |
| 20:42.27 | subsonic | how do you know that controls fubar? |
| 20:42.51 | hyperChipmunk | because it's in the OnTextUpdate function, which is inherited from fubar |
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| 20:43.08 | hyperChipmunk | and I'm not gonna commit it, because that's an option some people might not want, and I'm not the author |
| 20:43.18 | hyperChipmunk | just change it on yours |
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| 20:44.01 | subsonic | The author said he won't be updating anymore. |
| 20:44.34 | FISKER_Q | Cryect motherf. |
| 20:44.41 | subsonic | but man, that was simple for you :) |
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| 20:44.58 | hyperChipmunk | well, if you want to make an option for it and handle showing it based on the setting, then go ahead and do it, and I'll upload for you |
| 20:45.06 | Morghus | hyperChipmunk made BulkMail2. Of course something like that's easy \o/ |
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| 20:45.23 | RogueShadow | I really question stats accuracy when I went through SM library as #1 damage dealer as a 34 rogue, when the 38 mage was only beating the priest in damage. |
| 20:45.33 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: okay, I'll need to figure that out. but thanks, thaty's a great help you gave me |
| 20:45.35 | hyperChipmunk | but I'm too lazy to make it all up to release quality =) |
| 20:45.51 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41792 10Recount/Fix_SWFixLogStrings.bat: Recount - Adds a batch file for fixing data issues caused by SWStats |
| 20:45.55 | winkiller | I have recount, recap and damagemeters |
| 20:46.01 | winkiller | all show roughly teh same numbers |
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| 20:46.12 | winkiller | but 570 without consumables seems really low |
| 20:46.14 | hyperChipmunk | now, back to starburst >8) |
| 20:46.17 | RogueShadow | I normally use DamageMeters. |
| 20:46.38 | RogueShadow | I like the breakdown of skills people use. tells me a lot about how my group mates are playing. |
| 20:47.25 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: no, that's a good help |
| 20:47.51 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r41793 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Auchindoun/ShadowLabyrinth/Blackheart.lua: Threat-1.0: more localization (deDE) |
| 20:53.44 | FISKER_Q | Cryect |
| 20:56.28 | subsonic | You can include your own mp3/wav files and have a mod play them right? |
| 20:56.54 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 20:57.13 | Pheredhel | okis there a "simple" way to get the unitid of a given playername? i cant find one :/ |
| 20:57.49 | hyperChipmunk | PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\\<AddOnName>\\<filename.wav>") |
| 20:57.57 | pastamancer | Pheredhel: http://wowace.com/wiki/Roster-2.1 |
| 20:58.38 | subsonic | hyperChipmunk: cool! :) |
| 20:58.56 | subsonic | I'm going to make a mod that just plays safety spiels from disneyland attractions. |
| 20:58.57 | Pheredhel | thanks |
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| 20:59.05 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 20:59.32 | hyperChipmunk | play the monorail safety message on the tram |
| 20:59.39 | subsonic | I have that |
| 20:59.46 | subsonic | I have everything really :) |
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| 20:59.53 | subsonic | I run www.subsonicradio.com |
| 21:00.32 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
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| 21:01.52 | Dustwhisper | Anyone got any tips for morogrim when you got druid tanks to pick up the adds |
| 21:01.55 | Dustwhisper | it's spazzy tbh |
| 21:02.52 | RogueShadow | subsonic: Neat. There's a high demand for disney theme park music streams? |
| 21:03.17 | Gandharva | Dustwhisper: hm, we do it with a lock + pala heals |
| 21:03.24 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 21:03.30 | Funkeh` | ok so rage winterchill enrages |
| 21:03.34 | subsonic | RogueShadow: Nope, only have about 2000 register users, and you can see the listeners is only like 70 |
| 21:03.42 | Funkeh` | i think we are the first to find that no one has mentioned it |
| 21:03.45 | subsonic | it's a very small vertical |
| 21:04.07 | Gandharva | Funkeh`: how long did you fight him? |
| 21:04.07 | durcyn | Funkeh`: oh, yes. rwc enrages. |
| 21:04.14 | RogueShadow | well, I think it's pretty cool your doing it anyway. |
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| 21:04.21 | Funkeh` | about 10 minutes |
| 21:04.30 | subsonic | RogueShadow: hehe, oh it's great fun :) |
| 21:04.50 | subsonic | RogueShadow: it's just a large demand. The people who visit are very loyal. |
| 21:04.50 | symian | Hey... can anyone help me set up "externals" (perhaps including telling me what 'externals' are) for the linux command-line version of svn, `svn'? |
| 21:05.03 | symian | For use with wowace, I mean. |
| 21:05.17 | Dustwhisper | Gandharva we have 2 locks and 4 mages doing them |
| 21:05.20 | symian | I've used SVN before, but externals are new to me. |
| 21:05.21 | Dustwhisper | get raped tbh |
| 21:05.37 | Kemayo | [Ammo]: Great news, I found the Quixote leak! It turns out that it was all ckknight's fault. :D |
| 21:08.13 | jme | hmm |
| 21:08.33 | jme | would it be possible to integrate bongos' keybinding configuration method into bartender? |
| 21:08.50 | symian | Can anyone even hear this? I come in and ask questions every now and then, and no one responds. If I'm being rude, please tell me, don't just ignore me. |
| 21:09.31 | vhaarr | symian: if you ask a question, you have to wait around for an answer |
| 21:09.37 | RogueShadow | symian: Not ignoring you, just don't know. |
| 21:09.41 | symian | Oh, okey doke. |
| 21:09.42 | symian | Thanks. |
| 21:09.43 | jme | symian: i suggest googling if you don't get an immediate response |
| 21:09.45 | vhaarr | symian: Some people just ask and then leave again if they don't get answers in 2 minutes. |
| 21:09.55 | symian | Yeah, I normally hang around for an hour or so. |
| 21:09.57 | symian | Thanks, everyone! |
| 21:10.12 | Mikk | symian: there's SVN howtos on wowace.com |
| 21:10.30 | RogueShadow | High Speed internet is good. Just come on in, sit here for days or weeks. See interesting things. |
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| 21:10.53 | vhaarr | symian: svn propset |
| 21:11.38 | symian | vhaarr, will that set it for the checked-out directory? Or for ALL svn's? Because I use SVN for work, too. |
| 21:11.50 | boh | Is anyone else getting issues with WAU 1.9.15? It tends to crash very often for me. |
| 21:12.14 | FISKER_Q | anyone that knows an addon that automatically uses stopcasting on your spells so you don't need to make a macro fro each spell? |
| 21:12.16 | boh | Specially if I alt+tab it away while it's updating |
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| 21:12.54 | vhaarr | symian: svn propset --help |
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| 21:13.39 | symian | Thanks, Mikk, vhaarr |
| 21:14.20 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41794 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua): |
| 21:14.20 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 21:14.20 | CIA-22 | - Optimizations to all calls to the NPC core |
| 21:14.20 | CIA-22 | - Changed the mob detection to combat log damage to/from, rather than unit mouseover. Broadcast remains intact. |
| 21:14.20 | CIA-22 | - Made a number of optimizations to mob detection |
| 21:14.21 | CIA-22 | - Fixed global threat modifications on knockback, etc in the NPC core. |
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| 21:17.44 | Jaxon | So the weirdest thing is happening with Pitbull |
| 21:17.52 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41795 10Quixote/ (Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua Quixote.toc license.txt): |
| 21:17.52 | CIA-22 | Quixote: (Drycode) |
| 21:17.52 | CIA-22 | -Fix memory leak (table was getting *non-recursively* del'd) in QUEST_LOG_UPDATE. |
| 21:17.52 | CIA-22 | -Explicitly license under LGPL v2.1. |
| 21:18.02 | Jaxon | The combo point icons are moving with the energy flash. |
| 21:18.37 | [gk]Hotphoenix | is there an automatic timer mod for things like trash repops that uses ace2? |
| 21:18.51 | pastamancer | incubator |
| 21:19.10 | [gk]Hotphoenix | thanks |
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| 21:21.52 | Nyri | is ist possible to download stable versions with wau only? |
| 21:22.01 | nevcairiel | not yet |
| 21:22.04 | Mikk | not yet |
| 21:22.12 | steev64 | hmm |
| 21:22.33 | Kemayo | Nyri: There's apparently some sort of work going on to allow authors to tag their stable updates, at which time WAU will support that. |
| 21:22.59 | Nyri | sounds good ;) |
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| 21:23.33 | Kemayo | (Well, okay, we could tag them now. But some sort of officially-sanctioned schema that files script would know about.) |
| 21:24.34 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: dunno if you got my botmail: is it intended for DogTag's DifficultyColor to only work on hostile NPCs? |
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| 21:26.11 | symian | Hey guys... I'm getting some conflicting information on the SVN tutorials on wowace |
| 21:26.29 | symian | should I import my add-on to /<name>/trunk/<addon> |
| 21:26.35 | symian | or /trunk/<addon> |
| 21:26.44 | Mikk | wowace/trunk/addon |
| 21:27.13 | symian | so http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/addon |
| 21:27.15 | symian | no name |
| 21:27.30 | Mikk | no name? |
| 21:27.38 | Mikk | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/MyAddon |
| 21:27.55 | symian | Right. I should not include "eblume", my user name, in the path. |
| 21:28.00 | symian | Ok, good. Thanks! |
| 21:28.44 | symian | And can anyone tell me, using the *NIX command-line svn, should I be calling import from INSIDE my addon folder, or externally to it? |
| 21:28.56 | symian | I'd hate to get that wrong |
| 21:29.16 | symian | I imagine inside, but I'd like to be sure. |
| 21:30.12 | symian | Never mind, found it in "svn help import". I swear I am RTFMing, I just don't want to be the one who killed wowace svn. |
| 21:30.38 | Jaxon | subversion will track each and every little tiny change. |
| 21:30.42 | Jaxon | You can't break anything that much. |
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| 21:31.32 | symian | Well, I don't want to import my entire addon folder :-D |
| 21:31.45 | symian | 'cuz that's very large, and it'd stay in history forever. |
| 21:31.56 | symian | A dark, bleak shame on my user name. |
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| 21:35.09 | symian | Another question: it says to set svn:eol-style native |
| 21:35.14 | symian | Is that true for linux users, too? |
| 21:35.21 | symian | Or should I set "dos" or something? |
| 21:35.25 | pastamancer | always native |
| 21:35.30 | symian | Ok, great. |
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| 21:43.48 | Nebucadnezar | Does anyone know what causes the Queue Empty error when running Undo Last Update? |
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| 21:47.23 | CIA-22 | 03eblume * r41796 10FuBar_BabelFu/: |
| 21:47.23 | CIA-22 | FuBar_BabelFu |
| 21:47.23 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.31 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r41797 10DrDamage/BuffScanning.lua: |
| 21:47.31 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 21:47.31 | CIA-22 | - Fixed typo in "A'dal's Song of Battle" |
| 21:47.32 | symian | Woot! |
| 21:47.43 | symian | BabelFu - that's me! |
| 21:47.53 | steev64 | you go boy! |
| 21:47.59 | symian | Hell yeah. |
| 21:48.00 | steev64 | wtf is babelfu |
| 21:48.04 | symian | Heh |
| 21:48.15 | symian | It's a FuBar-enabled language changer |
| 21:48.29 | symian | RP freaks like myself like to use languages. |
| 21:48.33 | steev64 | you mean it doesn't do on the fly horde/alliance speech |
| 21:48.45 | symian | No... I should probably make that clear in a readme somewhere. |
| 21:48.53 | symian | That's not possible, AFAIK. |
| 21:49.46 | symian | Well, without a really high noise ratio... I mean, you could theoretically reproduce digital communication by sending texts at varrying rates, sizes... But no. That's too much. |
| 21:50.01 | Mikk | there's addons that do it |
| 21:50.13 | symian | Mikk: I'm sure they break TOS? |
| 21:50.21 | Mikk | oya |
| 21:50.50 | symian | Oh, and of course, mad props to ckknight for the awesome FuBar. |
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| 21:51.24 | symian | I was wondering if anyone could tell me exactly how the heck Tablet works? I mean, I can use it: I use it in all of my FuBar add-ons. But I can't figure out when it's actually creating a frame, then handing it to FuBar. |
| 21:51.50 | symian | It seems like all I do is create a Tablet object, and then, magically, FuBar uses it. |
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| 21:55.56 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1147 |
| 21:56.10 | Antiarc|Work | Feature request: LESS FEATURES PLEASE |
| 21:56.12 | Nebucadnezar | Is there anything else I need to do to determine whats crashing WoW other then just deleting add-ons one by one? |
| 21:56.39 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=365.0 |
| 21:56.40 | Mudkipz | LOL |
| 21:56.49 | Mudkipz | that guy needs a slap on the face |
| 21:56.49 | Bibi | someone answer this plz. :( |
| 21:56.49 | steev64 | disable all of them, and then enable one by one ? |
| 21:56.57 | Bibi | or Bibi's poster will be sad |
| 21:57.01 | Bibi | And I don't want my posters to be sad |
| 21:57.11 | [dRaCo] | deleting addons one by one is... |
| 21:57.20 | [dRaCo] | just disable half of em and test |
| 21:57.54 | Mudkipz | tsumaki lol |
| 21:58.01 | [dRaCo] | and repeat |
| 21:58.29 | Bibi | Mudkipz : ? :( |
| 21:58.52 | Kinkx | moonsorrow - [2007/06/27 00:00:31-1316-x1]: XRS-2.1 r41754\XRS.lua:430: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister bucket event "table: 12844720". "XRaidStatus" is not registered with it. |
| 21:58.53 | Mudkipz | I would post but no way in heck I'm wasting my time to register |
| 21:58.59 | Nebucadnezar | steev64: That's a good idea? I am just miffed as I used WAU to update and when I tried to Undo the last update, WAU just keeps crashing! DOH! |
| 21:59.10 | steev64 | you posted the question/comment like 10-15 minutes ago and want a response already? |
| 22:00.17 | moonsorrow | Kinkx: oh, will fix that |
| 22:01.05 | Awaa | Odd, cant hear spells ingame, can hear looting and some stuff |
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| 22:01.07 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r41798 10XRS/XRS.lua: |
| 22:01.08 | CIA-22 | XRS: |
| 22:01.08 | CIA-22 | - bugfix |
| 22:01.14 | Awaa | quite annoying |
| 22:01.54 | steev64 | Nebucadnezar: how many did it update? |
| 22:02.41 | Nebucadnezar | It's hard to tell. It doesn't look like it is deleting any when the error returns. |
| 22:02.57 | steev64 | Bibi: off hand though, i'd say make sure you are using ElkBuffBars <- notice the "s" at the end, and *NOT* ElkBuffBar |
| 22:04.08 | steev64 | Nebucadnezar: thats why i use the recycling bin option.... if things go wonky, i just delete the directories in the WoW directory and restore em from the recycling bin |
| 22:05.14 | Nebucadnezar | steev64: I know. I got too complaicent with things working all the time when I did updates. I actually just posted a request to help eliminate the issue for others in the future. |
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| 22:05.58 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r41799 10BigWigs/ (Extras/Proximity.lua TheEye/Kaelthas.lua): |
| 22:05.58 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: - Added deDE Translation to Proximity Module |
| 22:05.58 | CIA-22 | - Updated Kaelthas deDE Local |
| 22:06.07 | Nebucadnezar | steev64: I am going to just put all the files back and unload them all, reloading one by one. |
| 22:06.26 | Bibi | steev64 : smart ! |
| 22:06.32 | Nebucadnezar | steev64: It'll take forever, but I really don't want to have to update/re-install one by one. |
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| 22:07.14 | Kalman| | Nebucadnezar: WAU1 or WAU2? |
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| 22:11.41 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r41800 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua: |
| 22:11.41 | CIA-22 | simpleMinimap: |
| 22:11.41 | CIA-22 | - deDE Update |
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| 22:14.02 | steev64 | Bibi: that... and i read the comments in the link you posted and that was one of the responses.... |
| 22:14.06 | steev64 | lern2read noob |
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| 22:18.25 | Bibi | hmmmm |
| 22:18.27 | Bibi | now that's interesting |
| 22:18.47 | Nebucadnezar | kalman: WAU2 |
| 22:18.50 | Bibi | oh, the guy deleted his topic |
| 22:18.56 | Bibi | funny :p |
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| 22:25.02 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41801 10Recount/ (Fix_SWFixLogStrings.bat Recount.lua): Recount - Hopefully should fix issues with ParserLib & SWS FixCombatLog |
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| 22:26.22 | Mikk | is there a particular reason why ClosetGnome doesn't let you queue up a gear set change when you're dead? |
| 22:26.40 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r41802 10Gladiator/LODLoader.lua: Gladiator: increment EU Battlegroup count to 23 for LODLoader |
| 22:27.21 | Nebucadnezar | Mikk: Your dead?!?!?! |
| 22:27.26 | Nebucadnezar | :-) |
| 22:27.36 | Mikk | i blame my gf |
| 22:27.52 | Mikk | yeah and fin |
| 22:28.19 | Fin | he, I didn't mean to stab you in the face, total accident, honestly |
| 22:28.29 | Fin | +y |
| 22:28.44 | Fin | oh wait |
| 22:28.45 | Shirik | it's always Fin's fault |
| 22:28.47 | Fin | I understand now |
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| 22:29.06 | Fin | I'm being convicted in a public court of a crime I didn't commit! |
| 22:29.25 | Kaydeethree | s/public/kangaroo/ |
| 22:30.18 | Nebucadnezar | This is great. I copied all the add-ons back to test which is crashing WoW and I disabled them all. Tried to go in to WoW and it still blew up! Ahhh ahhhhhhhhhhh |
| 22:30.29 | Fin | I might have to fill in for a couple of my colleagues, so, erm, I pity the fool, something about golfballs, and I love it when a plan comes together |
| 22:30.49 | Fin | Nebucadnezar: have you tried running repair.exe? |
| 22:31.03 | Fin | foo' |
| 22:31.08 | Nebucadnezar | Fin: I am rebooting and then that is next. |
| 22:31.13 | Fin | good luck |
| 22:31.15 | Shirik | Nebucadnezar: You're on Trillian -- Windows? |
| 22:31.15 | Fin | foo' |
| 22:31.24 | Nebucadnezar | Fin: Yes. |
| 22:31.34 | Shirik | yes? |
| 22:31.39 | Fin | shaZAM |
| 22:31.41 | Shirik | oh I missed that question |
| 22:31.43 | Shirik | what about mine >< |
| 22:31.58 | Nebucadnezar | Fin: WoW is running on a different PC, which is now running Vista |
| 22:31.59 | nevcairiel | noone listens to you |
| 22:32.07 | Shirik | =( |
| 22:32.12 | Fin | nevcairiel: listens to who? |
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| 22:32.15 | Shirik | Nebucadnezar: Got the crash dump? |
| 22:32.17 | Mikk | vista |
| 22:32.18 | Mikk | owned |
| 22:32.42 | Fin | *plop*! welcome to my killfile, foo'! |
| 22:32.50 | Fin | I wonder if that's in character for BA |
| 22:32.54 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: The Blizz dump, yes! |
| 22:32.59 | Shirik | can I see it? |
| 22:33.26 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Sure, how do you want me to get it to you? |
| 22:33.41 | Shirik | just to verify we're talking about the same thing |
| 22:33.44 | Shirik | it should be all text |
| 22:33.51 | Shirik | just throw it on ace.pastey.net or something |
| 22:34.20 | Shirik | C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Errors |
| 22:34.22 | Shirik | the .txt file |
| 22:34.28 | Shirik | if I need it, I'll ask for the real dump later :) |
| 22:34.47 | Nebucadnezar | GIve me a sec. I have to switch over to that PC to upload it. |
| 22:34.50 | Shirik | ok :) |
| 22:35.22 | Shirik | visual studio doesn't like opening dump files when you don't have the debug version :( |
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| 22:39.13 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Just waiting for it to post. |
| 22:39.21 | Shirik | kk I have tons of time so :) |
| 22:39.37 | Nebucadnezar | I don't. I wanted to grind man! :-) |
| 22:40.17 | Nebucadnezar | 68872 |
| 22:41.36 | Shirik | wow slow |
| 22:41.38 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Running repair now (Check only) to see what happens |
| 22:41.43 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: VERY! |
| 22:42.35 | Shirik | so it only occurs on test, and happens even if you have all addons disabled? |
| 22:43.00 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Yes |
| 22:43.16 | Shirik | 0x25A is really low... |
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| 22:43.57 | Shirik | when does it occur? when you try to log in? |
| 22:44.22 | Nebucadnezar | When loading UI. I get past login, and past character selection. |
| 22:45.09 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r41803 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusAuras.lua): |
| 22:45.09 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 22:45.09 | CIA-22 | Frame - Added 'Bar color' indicator. Enable it in the advanced options. |
| 22:45.09 | CIA-22 | Auras - Added 'Ghost'. |
| 22:46.50 | Shirik | well unfortunately it's not what I was looking for :( |
| 22:47.05 | Shirik | though 0x25A seems like an important address, I see it all over the place |
| 22:47.16 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: I am thinking that if this doesn't work that I will probably delete the Cache and Add-ons folders and try a restart. If that works, I will copy the add-ons back and see what happens. |
| 22:47.42 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: This only started after a WAU installation of 10-20 more addons today. WoW was running great yesterday. |
| 22:47.59 | hypetech | is there an easy way to nuke all of your auctioneer data? |
| 22:48.02 | Shirik | yeah but WAU doesn't modify the WoW installation :P |
| 22:48.13 | Shirik | hypetech: Remove the auctioneer SV file |
| 22:48.15 | Nebucadnezar | I know. |
| 22:48.25 | hypetech | Shirik: ty, I thought that would be the only way |
| 22:49.19 | hypetech | all of my data is messed up because prices were so inflated when the server first opened because it was a transfer server, and auctioneer uses about 25MB when it loads and my data file is >50% full, so I'm just going to start fresh |
| 22:50.31 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Doesn't it figure that I just about had my UI rebuild 100% completed? |
| 22:50.48 | Shirik | of course |
| 22:50.51 | Shirik | is how it always works |
| 22:51.15 | Nebucadnezar | Repair says all is fine! |
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| 22:51.42 | nevcairiel | is that crash dump from a crash with all addons disabled? |
| 22:51.56 | Nebucadnezar | nevcairiel: Yes |
| 22:52.10 | Nebucadnezar | It's about 1k less then the ones with all of them loaded. |
| 22:52.15 | nevcairiel | how come there is a AceEvent reference in the stack dump ? :D |
| 22:52.35 | Nebucadnezar | nevcairiel: You got me! I noticed that too. |
| 22:53.07 | nevcairiel | try renaming your addons folder |
| 22:53.09 | Nebucadnezar | Going to try and delete the cache and add-on directories now and see what happens. |
| 22:53.10 | nevcairiel | just for fun |
| 22:53.44 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41804 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Perform translation on new received combatant names. |
| 22:57.28 | Xuerian | Has anyone seen a working version (or similar addon) of yatlas? 0_o |
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| 22:59.14 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41805 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Update the TOC to make Omen's beta status more clear. |
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| 23:01.34 | hypetech | omg, Omen is beta? |
| 23:01.35 | hypetech | noooo |
| 23:02.23 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Ping |
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| 23:05.51 | Fin | does Blizzard's strsplit accept " |
| 23:05.53 | Fin | err |
| 23:06.00 | Fin | does Blizzard's strsplit accept "\n" as a delimeter? |
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| 23:06.13 | Fin | or does it take that as delimiters \ and n |
| 23:06.34 | Mikk | \n is a single character |
| 23:06.50 | Mikk | it's an in-source escape that becomes a single byte when compiled |
| 23:07.43 | Fin | thanks Mikk |
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| 23:10.28 | Peoii | pastamancer: ping |
| 23:10.52 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41806 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 23:10.52 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Added a hack to nil out the registered AceComm prefix from an older |
| 23:10.52 | CIA-22 | copy of the library. This should hopefully allow for library upgrades without |
| 23:10.52 | CIA-22 | AceComm stepping all over itself. AceComm could probably use a method to |
| 23:10.52 | CIA-22 | unregister a comm prefix for similar cases. |
| 23:11.55 | NeoTron | man it's a pretty sick idea to let an addon be upgraded "on the fly" via loadstring and data sent in chat |
| 23:11.58 | NeoTron | wow-virus ftw |
| 23:12.07 | Mikk | rly? |
| 23:12.14 | Mikk | i've already posted to my guild to not use KTM20 |
| 23:12.18 | Mikk | at all |
| 23:12.53 | Chompers | i thought Antiarc found it was okay? |
| 23:13.03 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41807 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Changes the fix slightly |
| 23:15.12 | hypetech | so is recount like violation? |
| 23:15.17 | kebinusan | nope |
| 23:15.29 | Mikk | recount is more recappy, no? |
| 23:15.32 | NeoTron | Mikk: well I have no idea if it actually does that (I just read about the notion here) |
| 23:15.33 | Peoii | hrmph... |
| 23:15.35 | Peoii | [2007/06/26 16:08:17-186-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: AceLocale(Grid): Translation "Bar Color" does not exist.Grid\GridFrame.lua:653: in main chunk |
| 23:15.44 | Peoii | Getting the same thing for the new "Ghost" added to Grid |
| 23:15.48 | kebinusan | recount is more like swstats/assessment |
| 23:15.57 | NeoTron | and I can see how uber it would be if you could upgrade people's addons for them on joining the riad... but a major security hole |
| 23:15.59 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.06 | Peoii | pastamancer: enUS |
| 23:16.11 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: That code isn't active yet, but it's exploitable |
| 23:16.18 | Peoii | atm, I can try it on my enGB localized account too if you want. |
| 23:16.22 | Antiarc|Work | At the very least, you can hardlock the client of anyone in a party with you. |
| 23:16.36 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: so he actually DOES have code to send updated code via in-game chat cahnnels? |
| 23:16.38 | Mikk | Yer I know what can be done with sending people random lua code tyvm :P |
| 23:16.43 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Boss modules, yes. |
| 23:17.01 | Cryect | I've got a ways to make it more recappy but thats the intent |
| 23:17.06 | Antiarc|Work | Basically just Lua written in-game then sent to other clients and loadstring'd in a setfenv'd environment. |
| 23:17.07 | Cryect | mainly I'm missing summary reports on people |
| 23:17.17 | Cryect | thats the only diff between it and recap though |
| 23:17.33 | Cryect | summary of incoming/outgoing damage that is |
| 23:17.37 | kebinusan | it has many more prettty graphs for visuals |
| 23:17.38 | Antiarc|Work | Which is mostly secure, except a) he's passing a table reference in that might be exploitable, and b) you can still send and run "while true do end" any time you like. |
| 23:17.48 | NeoTron | I miss the historical fight aspect of minnastats >:-) |
| 23:18.07 | kebinusan | The death report is nice |
| 23:18.13 | NeoTron | that'd be bad |
| 23:18.22 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r41808 10Grid/ (GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusAuras.lua): |
| 23:18.23 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 23:18.23 | CIA-22 | Auras - Ghost isn't in BabbleSpell :( |
| 23:18.25 | kebinusan | just needs health percent |
| 23:18.40 | Cryect | haha health percent now :-p |
| 23:18.52 | Peoii | pastamancer: hehe, nor was "Bar Color" :/ |
| 23:19.11 | Mikk | question: would it be possible for recount to snarf info from violation? |
| 23:19.18 | Mikk | it'd be losing out on all details but... |
| 23:19.25 | Cryect | I've been busy all day trying to come up with a good fix for SWStats issues |
| 23:19.35 | Cryect | I'm going to add SWStats reading of data at least |
| 23:20.27 | Mikk | got guildies saying everyone should be using recount to spot dpser problems... but i'm in a "trying to par down my UI a bit" period right now and would prefer to stick with vio personally |
| 23:20.35 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r41809 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: |
| 23:20.35 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 23:20.35 | CIA-22 | Frame - typo. |
| 23:20.45 | NeoTron | man gotta love kenco |
| 23:20.58 | NeoTron | "KPM doesn't use profiling so it's more accurate" |
| 23:21.10 | Mikk | ignore him |
| 23:21.14 | NeoTron | I am |
| 23:21.17 | Peoii | Ignorance is bliss. |
| 23:21.18 | NeoTron | I just find it funny is all |
| 23:21.18 | Mikk | don't argue with him |
| 23:21.19 | Mikk | whatever you do |
| 23:21.24 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, at this point, it's not worth arguing with him. |
| 23:21.33 | NeoTron | I only rant on him in here for the humor factor |
| 23:21.39 | Mikk | that's ok =) |
| 23:21.43 | NeoTron | he obviously has no clue |
| 23:21.57 | Peoii | ugh |
| 23:22.02 | Cryect | Wait but KPM is always profiling |
| 23:22.02 | Peoii | we better kill al'ar today :/ |
| 23:22.11 | Peoii | I don't wanna spend the rest of the week spec'd frost :/ |
| 23:22.17 | Cryect | ddue to its lovely built in profiler >_> |
| 23:22.30 | Antiarc|Work | You know what's funny? |
| 23:22.36 | Antiarc|Work | KPM shows KTM at the top of the CPU usage list |
| 23:22.40 | NeoTron | Peoii: ah a mage |
| 23:22.50 | pastamancer | Peoii: grab the new zip and test please |
| 23:22.50 | Peoii | NeoTron: Yup |
| 23:22.51 | NeoTron | Peoii: you agree that in general fire > frost for dps? heavy fire builds? |
| 23:22.53 | Antiarc|Work | Usually on par with the Ace2 event frame (which is processing events for EVERY SINGLE addon using AceEvent) |
| 23:22.56 | Peoii | pastamancer: will do |
| 23:23.02 | Funkeh` | now now Antiarc|Work you need to use more than 1 addon |
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| 23:23.10 | Peoii | NeoTron: 10/48/3 for life. |
| 23:23.15 | Cryect | Mikk: Shrug I've made it mind more for hopefully class/raid leader to figure out since I figure the individuals aren't going to figure out the issue on their own |
| 23:23.18 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: ah but it's ok because top of the list doesn't mean it uses a lot of cpu! |
| 23:23.33 | NeoTron | Peoii: cool that's exactly what I was going to recommend to our mages |
| 23:23.33 | Funkeh` | true tbh |
| 23:23.33 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r41810 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid: Updated translation koKR |
| 23:23.36 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: It just means that KTM's the winner! :V |
| 23:23.37 | kebinusan | Cryect: [2007/06/26 19:21:43-1789-x1]: Recount\Recount.lua:821: attempt to call method 'CheckParser' (a nil value) |
| 23:23.42 | kebinusan | with the most recent version |
| 23:23.43 | Cryect | whoops |
| 23:24.07 | Fin | does Blizzard's strjoin() take a table as the second argument? |
| 23:24.17 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41811 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Removes a call for a function I deleted |
| 23:24.18 | Antiarc|Work | Use table.join |
| 23:24.23 | Fin | oh |
| 23:24.24 | Cryect | Heh, forgot to remove that call |
| 23:24.27 | Fin | thanks :) |
| 23:24.33 | Gandharva | OK, I have this as Target Tag: [Target:IsEqual([Name#player])?Text(<<YOU>>):Fuchsia!Target]. How do I get it to show the Target in it's Class Color when the Target is not me? [Target:IsEqual([Name#player])?Text(<<YOU>>):Fuchsia!Target:ClassColor] only colors it like the Class Color of my mouseover Target. |
| 23:24.41 | Cryect | Was some of my code for checking how ParserLib was looking |
| 23:24.52 | Fin | for _, alt in ipairs(alts) do |
| 23:24.52 | Fin | done |
| 23:24.53 | pastamancer | Gandharva: ow, that makes my eyes hurt |
| 23:24.55 | Fin | gah! |
| 23:24.56 | Fin | sorry |
| 23:25.07 | Fin | stupid finger clicking the mouse like that |
| 23:25.08 | Antiarc|Work | Fin: 40 lashes with a wet noodle, mister. |
| 23:25.16 | Gandharva | pastamancer: because of my bad english? |
| 23:25.18 | Peoii | pastamancer: All better. |
| 23:25.18 | pastamancer | you keep my noodles out of this! |
| 23:25.27 | pastamancer | Gandharva: no, the dogtag strings |
| 23:25.34 | Fin | better than a dry noodle! |
| 23:25.36 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: Are you called pastamancer because you write spaghetti code? |
| 23:25.36 | Fin | woo |
| 23:25.38 | Antiarc|Work | *runs* |
| 23:25.42 | Gandharva | pastamancer: but it does what I want |
| 23:25.52 | Gandharva | exept the coloring |
| 23:26.14 | pastamancer | trying to do anything complicated with dogtag gives me a headache |
| 23:26.15 | Fin | cheel, winston |
| 23:27.15 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: there's a table.join? |
| 23:27.19 | Antiarc|Work | Should be. |
| 23:27.32 | Fin | any chance of a pointer? |
| 23:27.49 | Antiarc|Work | I may have the wrong name |
| 23:27.51 | Antiarc|Work | table.concat? |
| 23:28.08 | Fin | that's not joining two tables together? I shall check! |
| 23:28.12 | Antiarc|Work | yeah, table.concat |
| 23:28.19 | hyperChipmunk | that concats a table of strings |
| 23:28.21 | Antiarc|Work | No, it takes all entries in the table and concats them into one string |
| 23:28.24 | hyperChipmunk | with an optional delimiter |
| 23:28.52 | Antiarc|Work | a = {1,2,3}; b = table.concat(a, "-"); b == "1-2-3" |
| 23:28.52 | Fin | thank you kindly, that's what I wanted |
| 23:28.56 | Fin | a thousand blessings be upon you |
| 23:29.45 | Shirik | blessings are never upon me :( |
| 23:30.02 | Fin | that's because you worship satan and eat babies |
| 23:30.10 | Fin | god frowns upon baby eating |
| 23:30.12 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html <--- new nVidia beta drivers today |
| 23:30.17 | Shirik | =( |
| 23:30.40 | Fin | ta, Antiarc|Work |
| 23:30.49 | Wixi | Antiarc|Work: Any big changes? |
| 23:30.59 | Antiarc|Work | Wixi: Hell if I know =) |
| 23:31.58 | Fin | green + blue = yellow -- right? |
| 23:32.14 | Cryect | but there is nothing else as yummy as baby back ribs |
| 23:32.19 | Cryect | right |
| 23:32.24 | Antiarc|Work | http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/162.15/162.15_Win_XP_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf <-- 72-page image-heavy PDF warning |
| 23:32.35 | Shirik | Fin: Only in additive coloring |
| 23:32.54 | Fin | Shirik: the additives and colouring are the best bits of *any* sweet |
| 23:33.04 | Cryect | Well of course in subtractive coloring its just yellow :-p |
| 23:33.08 | Fin | and, ye gods, 72 pages of release notes? |
| 23:33.32 | Fin | surely that's all legal bullshit and promotional wank |
| 23:33.32 | Shirik | Cryect: No it would be |
| 23:33.41 | Antiarc|Work | Fin: Mostly, yes |
| 23:33.46 | Fin | figures |
| 23:33.47 | Ominous | is http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inno3D-Geforce-8600GT-1400MHz-Graphics/dp/B000Q2OIHI/ any good? |
| 23:34.07 | Shirik | wait |
| 23:34.09 | Shirik | how do you make green |
| 23:34.13 | Antiarc|Work | Fin: It's actually a good set of patch notes, but it's patch notes that have been run through the marketers and lawyers |
| 23:34.13 | Shirik | omg |
| 23:34.14 | Fin | yellow + blue |
| 23:34.18 | Antiarc|Work | Shirik: 00FF00? |
| 23:34.19 | Shirik | blue and yellow that's it |
| 23:34.19 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: ah |
| 23:34.29 | Cryect | yellow + cyan you mean |
| 23:34.34 | Shirik | no |
| 23:34.35 | Shirik | blue |
| 23:34.39 | Fin | you put the lime with the coconut, you drink it all up |
| 23:34.39 | Shirik | wait |
| 23:34.41 | Shirik | no cyan |
| 23:34.41 | Cryect | uh in subtractive its cyan |
| 23:34.41 | Shirik | damn it |
| 23:34.45 | Cryect | CYMK |
| 23:34.46 | Antiarc|Work | I only think in hex |
| 23:34.50 | Shirik | Screw CMYK |
| 23:34.53 | Antiarc|Work | Stop confusing me with your newfangled color systems |
| 23:34.58 | Shirik | I've given up all my knowledge for RGB :( |
| 23:35.05 | Cryect | RGB = New Fangled |
| 23:35.09 | Shirik | I've forgotten everything now |
| 23:35.16 | Fin | forgotten what? |
| 23:35.24 | Fin | where am I? |
| 23:35.25 | Antiarc|Work | [SLI], GeForce 6600, SLI: with SLI mode enabled, horizontal segments of terrain in World of Warcraft are shifted out of position, and in other cases the foreground terrain intermittently fails to hide background objects.[237486] |
| 23:35.31 | Fin | who are you people?!? |
| 23:36.12 | sbu | ohh |
| 23:36.26 | sbu | its not only 88xx agin |
| 23:36.32 | sbu | *downloading* |
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| 23:43.01 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41812 10/branches/StarBurst/StarBurst.lua: |
| 23:43.01 | CIA-22 | StarBurst: |
| 23:43.01 | CIA-22 | - The nonworking test buttons are now (somewhat) working test buttons. Shinyness level: 14% |
| 23:43.21 | kergoth | ooh, 14% |
| 23:43.35 | NightHawkAtWork | psh, call me when it gets to 42% shiny |
| 23:43.37 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 23:43.43 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
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| 23:44.10 | sbu | hm |
| 23:44.10 | hypetech | what is starburst? |
| 23:44.14 | Fin | cual es el StarBurst? |
| 23:44.16 | sbu | installing drivers while playing wow sucks |
| 23:44.26 | Antiarc|Work | You know |
| 23:44.32 | hyperChipmunk | modular radial menus |
| 23:44.38 | NightHawkAtWork | hypetech: candy! |
| 23:44.39 | hyperChipmunk | except it's not really modular yet |
| 23:44.41 | Antiarc|Work | Common sense would dictate that you not be running 3D apps while installing new 3D drivers. |
| 23:44.41 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: en ingles |
| 23:44.42 | Fin | Sprocket lives on! |
| 23:44.46 | hyperChipmunk | or working, for that matter |
| 23:44.56 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: i know :p |
| 23:45.01 | hypetech | lol, so it's not modular, not raidal, and no menus....got it |
| 23:45.03 | Nebucadnezar | Interesting. I delete the Cache and Add-on folders and WoW loads fine. Now for the big test, copying the add-ons back.... |
| 23:45.07 | Fin | the spirit of Sprocket will never die! |
| 23:45.08 | hyperChipmunk | well, no |
| 23:45.10 | Nebucadnezar | (victory) |
| 23:45.32 | kebinusan | I miss sprocket |
| 23:45.33 | hyperChipmunk | it's just only really useful if you want to dance, moo, chicken, or whistle |
| 23:45.38 | Fin | Nebucadnezar: betcha it was a weird character problem |
| 23:45.39 | hyperChipmunk | or open the main menu or spellbook |
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| 23:45.45 | Fin | as in, foreign character |
| 23:45.49 | Fin | like one of those upside down ?s |
| 23:45.50 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:45.55 | Nebucadnezar | Fin: I hope that's all it was. |
| 23:45.58 | hyperChipmunk | or the character frame |
| 23:46.07 | hyperChipmunk | but that button doesn't texture right |
| 23:46.13 | hyperChipmunk | so it's kinda invisible |
| 23:47.05 | hypetech | kinda? |
| 23:47.06 | hypetech | hehe |
| 23:47.20 | hyperChipmunk | oh, also, it only works once |
| 23:47.30 | Fin | it's a start |
| 23:47.31 | hyperChipmunk | i don't quite understand that yet |
| 23:47.36 | Lywellyn|Away | :p |
| 23:47.37 | Fin | but, I guess, that's all it is |
| 23:47.38 | hypetech | I can see the shininess rating now |
| 23:47.39 | Fin | heh |
| 23:47.43 | hypetech | pretty accurate |
| 23:47.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's why it's only 14%! |
| 23:47.55 | hypetech | :) |
| 23:48.02 | kergoth | purl, entertain me! |
| 23:48.02 | purl | ACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for me!'s entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík |
| 23:48.15 | Nebucadnezar | Loading.... (victory) |
| 23:48.16 | hypetech | purl, entertain kergoth |
| 23:48.17 | purl | ACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for kergoth's entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík |
| 23:48.20 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: BM2's pretty cool btw, it doesn't seem to update the auto-send frame when I first open the mailbox, though |
| 23:48.24 | hypetech | <-- winner |
| 23:48.26 | Morghus | A friend of mine has an odd problem with Bartender3. Main bar - 8 buttons, 3 stances ( pages ). Sometimes button 5-7 stops working, shows no tooltip and doesn't respond at all. The problem is gone if he switches stances. |
| 23:48.35 | hyperChipmunk | you have to click on the send tab =p |
| 23:48.45 | Fin | I have an odd problem with BT3, but I can live with it |
| 23:48.52 | hypetech | Fin: what problem? |
| 23:49.05 | Nebucadnezar | Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ROFL |
| 23:49.19 | Fin | one of my bars goes huge and immovable and half off the screen at a random time |
| 23:49.32 | subsonic | Indiana Jones 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSvC9scaNE |
| 23:50.06 | Fin | "reset" doesn't work, none of the settings affect it, and it goes back to that position if I use something like MoveIt to reset it |
| 23:50.07 | Nebucadnezar | That was supposed to be a /cry icon |
| 23:50.17 | Fin | did it not work, Nebucadnezar |
| 23:50.19 | Fin | +? |
| 23:50.22 | Nebucadnezar | Nope. Crashed again |
| 23:50.26 | Fin | bad luck |
| 23:50.39 | Fin | you done the repari? |
| 23:50.43 | Fin | >r |
| 23:50.46 | Nebucadnezar | Well, at least I know it isn't WoW. It is definitely one of the addon's I added from WAU2 |
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| 23:51.04 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 23:51.04 | purl | There's this game where you put in a dollar and you win four quarters. I win every time! |
| 23:51.05 | Nebucadnezar | Fin: I ran repair, but as Check Only. It said all the Blizz files were fine |
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| 23:51.25 | Nebucadnezar | purl: Talk about good luck! |
| 23:51.33 | Fin | ~luck |
| 23:51.33 | purl | i heard luck is what you dont have. |
| 23:51.38 | kergoth | owned |
| 23:51.40 | [dRaCo] | ~skill |
| 23:51.41 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 23:51.41 | purl | Gimme some sugar, baby! |
| 23:51.49 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 23:51.50 | purl | When I stick this army guy with the sharp bayonette up my nose, it tickles my brain. Hah hah hah ... ow. Oh, now I don't know math. |
| 23:51.50 | Lywellyn | ~die |
| 23:51.51 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 23:51.51 | hypetech | ~sex |
| 23:51.52 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 23:51.55 | Nebucadnezar | purl: I knew this blonde that kept putting in a quarter and getting a coke everytime too. |
| 23:51.56 | purl | You knew this blonde that kept putting in a quarter and getting a coke everytime too.? |
| 23:52.15 | hypetech | ~apt-get apache |
| 23:52.25 | Fin | ~help! |
| 23:52.26 | purl | [help] /msg apt help |
| 23:52.26 | hypetech | ~sex apt-get apache |
| 23:52.29 | hypetech | hehe |
| 23:52.42 | Fin | ~help I need somebody |
| 23:52.46 | Fin | ~help not just anybody |
| 23:52.52 | Fin | ~help I need somebody |
| 23:52.54 | Fin | ~heeeeeeeelp |
| 23:53.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:53.17 | Antiarc|Work | ~emulate Fin |
| 23:53.26 | Fin | no! |
| 23:53.44 | hyperChipmunk | purl only says one line at a time |
| 23:53.59 | hyperChipmunk | to emulate fin you'd need to spam three pages |
| 23:54.07 | Fin | I |
| 23:54.08 | Fin | do |
| 23:54.09 | Fin | not |
| 23:54.09 | Fin | spam! |
| 23:54.13 | Fin | ooh, pretty |
| 23:54.13 | Lywellyn | Yes |
| 23:54.14 | Lywellyn | you |
| 23:54.14 | Lywellyn | do |
| 23:54.39 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41813 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua Aloft.toc Modules/GroupTargetCountData.lua): |
| 23:54.39 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 23:54.39 | CIA-22 | - Added GroupTargetCountData module. Still needs a bit more work, but basic functionality seems correct. |
| 23:54.45 | subsonic | kick! :) |
| 23:54.46 | Lywellyn | CIA spams. |
| 23:54.46 | Nebucadnezar | purl: You need to modify your code for us married guys and remove the "install and purge" commands. |
| 23:55.01 | [dRaCo] | reminds me of that xkcd comic from like 3 weeks ago |
| 23:55.02 | subsonic | it must be fun to make good mods |
| 23:55.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:55.08 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: you ought to hide the resize-drag tab in omen when it's locked |
| 23:55.10 | subsonic | people think you're a hero |
| 23:55.18 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r41814 10FuriousRaid/: |
| 23:55.18 | CIA-22 | FuriousRaid: inital commit |
| 23:55.18 | CIA-22 | - An addon to track my particular guild's points and attendance for raids. |
| 23:55.50 | subsonic | users shouldn't be able to add player/guild specific mods |
| 23:55.52 | subsonic | to svn |
| 23:56.00 | hyperChipmunk | 1: it's useless when locked, 2: it's absence is a visible indicator that the frame is locked, something of which omen currently lacks |
| 23:56.08 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: It's on the to-do list |
| 23:56.11 | Antiarc|Work | Admittedly, way, way low |
| 23:56.12 | Antiarc|Work | But on there |
| 23:57.03 | hyperChipmunk | well screw you |
| 23:57.09 | *** join/#wowace gaurong (n=ilovemrd@212-1-142-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 23:57.35 | Nebucadnezar | WoW! Antiarc just got spanked by a Chipmunk! |
| 23:58.06 | art3mis | hyper has tiny hands |
| 23:58.12 | Nebucadnezar | LMAO |
| 23:58.31 | NightHawkAtWork | hyper has tiny lots of things... so i'm told. >.> |
| 23:58.40 | art3mis | *rimshot* |
| 23:58.51 | Nebucadnezar | *golf clap* |
