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00:01.48Andunewow a lot of things have changed since I last played my hunter.
00:01.56Anduneaimed/arcane don't share a timer.  pet heal is insta-cast.
00:02.04kergoth<3 mend pet hot
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00:05.09Anduneis BM still "the" leveling spec, or is it differnet now?
00:05.22AenslaedBM is the pve spec
00:05.43Kirkburn|afkBeen BM 1-65 so far on a new char, it's awesome
00:05.58MikkStill owns for levelling. And funnily enough it's also the best raid dps spec.
00:06.15MikkSurvival is arguably better in heroics though
00:06.37Anduneyeah I've always just laughed at the survivability tree.  but I've been seen more hunter specd that lately.
00:06.38Mikk(God, some of the trap combos one of our hunters are pulling make me dizzy to just watch)
00:06.52MorghusIs there some way to implement a way to detect a SWStats reset?
00:07.01Morghus... *for Violation
00:07.06Morghus*coughs* Sorry :P
00:07.11Kirkburn|afkI really need to use more the the hunter special spells
00:07.18MikkDoubletrapping 2 mobs, pet tanking a third, kiting a fourth .... hell, who needs more CC?
00:07.42Andunecompared to leveilng a paly, leveling a hunter or a lock are so easy it's laughable  :)
00:08.37Andunetho I guess ret palys today aren't as bad as the palys of yesteryear.
00:08.46hyperChipmunkMikk: pop readiness and trap a third
00:09.48CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r94 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: This one was actually my fault, not Gnarfoz's (re: offsets to mouse anchoring causing an error).
00:10.02Gnarfozyay ;D
00:10.08Gnarfoz<3 Thrae ^^
00:10.59MikkhyperChipmunk: and toss in a scare beast :P
00:11.09AdirelleMikk: I configured most of my addon to be loadmanaged by addonloader
00:11.16Mikkkewl =)
00:11.23Mikkis it doing anythnig to loading times?
00:11.34hyperChipmunkMikk: two of 'em!
00:11.35Adirellereduced it a bit
00:11.41hyperChipmunki love being survival <3
00:11.47Mikkhaha
00:12.13Mikk[Ammo]: ping
00:12.28Adirellemikk: though I kept some heavy ones, like prat and pitbull
00:13.00MikkI'm thinking 90% of what lives in my fubar can be delayed
00:13.11Mikknotepad, perf meter, itemlist, volume control
00:13.15Mikketc etc
00:13.39Adirelleyes, but they are loaded by fuber itself, can't really do more
00:13.56Mikkthey are?
00:14.57Adirellewait, I'll end my fight and check
00:15.18Mikkaddons that have fubar as loadmanager will get loaded by fubar yes
00:15.39AdirelleI've got actually only three fubar plugin that ain't lod'ed : faction, guild, money
00:15.59Mikki still want smarter autolod for fubar
00:16.09Mikki.e. don't load it until i click some default icon
00:16.23MikkX-FuBar-DefaultIcon: foo
00:16.27MikkX-FuBar-DefaultText: bar
00:16.37MikkAnd then it presents a fake tablet until I click
00:17.15MikkObviously won't work for addons that you want to present meaningful info
00:17.29MikkBut for ones that are just click-to-open-something ...
00:17.54Mikk(oRA, Bigwigs, Omnibus to mention a few)
00:17.57JaxonI thought the raid login-crash problem was discovered and fixed?
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00:19.00Adirellemikk, er... how one say... right !
00:19.32MikkX-FuBar-LoadIfLMNotPresent: AddonLoader      ... >.<
00:20.08CIA-2203celellach * r41596 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
00:20.08CIA-22AtlasLoot:
00:20.08CIA-22- Set Update
00:20.38uliccan one do table.insert(table, ["name"] = "bob")
00:20.43hyperChipmunktable.name = 'bob'
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00:21.06hyperChipmunkunless you want a table with a field "name" equal to "bob"
00:21.30Adirelleeek... to bad... smartbuff doesn't like loding
00:21.37hyperChipmunkthen you want to table.insert(table, { name = "bob" })
00:22.03Adirellehave to find a better addon that it one day
00:22.21ulicyes, I think I want the latter, thank you.
00:22.43MikkAdirelle: Boo, document! :-)  http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AddonLoader#Load_Conditions
00:23.24Adirelle*erm* Adirelle's actually kill demons at manaforge Ara.
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00:25.08MikkHm, wait... Yeah, a bunch of my FuBar addons are LoadOnDemand: 1
00:25.28MikkHow the hell is FuBar deciding to load them? Just find addons that are LoD and named FuBar_*  ?
00:26.04ThraeGnarfoz: That can't happen.
00:26.10Adirellemikk: I guess it look on addons have FuBar as dependancy
00:26.14Adirelles/ve/ving/
00:26.19CIA-2203rabbit * r41597 10simpleMinimap/ (9 files in 2 dirs): simpleMinimap: Some cleanup.
00:26.25Adirellethat's how Cart does
00:26.26MikkAdirelle: That field isn't accessible
00:26.39MikkAt least I think it isn't
00:26.47Adirellenot by getmetadata, but there's another way
00:26.55Mikkoh
00:27.52Mikkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetAddOnDependencies  duh
00:28.19GnarfozThrae: certainly does, settins are these: http://ace.pastey.net/65762
00:29.02pastamancerI need a volunteer that reliably gets lockups when entering AV
00:29.44ThraeGnarfoz: Are you mousing over a unit?
00:30.01Gnarfozyes, over units, and over my unit frames
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00:30.36Adirelledamn, got owned by massive repop
00:31.43sylvanaarKK so anyone know why early loading breaks so much stuff
00:33.17ThraeGnarfoz: What happens if you set it to "BOTTOM"?
00:33.34nymbiasylvanaar: what do you mean
00:33.40Gnarfozboth of them?
00:33.55ThraeGnarfoz: The CursorAnchor, yes
00:34.01GnarfozI'll see.
00:34.09Gnarfozshouldn't that break stuff, since it's the default? xD
00:34.14CIA-2203cryect * r41598 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes some bugs involving pets
00:34.26ThraeGnarfoz: Not that value, no
00:34.30Gnarfozalright
00:35.01Gnarfozsame result, Thrae
00:35.04sylvanaarwhy does stuff break when i do my LoadManager: Ace2 thing?
00:35.34ThraeGnarfoz: Hmmm, can you take a screenshot?
00:35.35sylvanaarseemingly unrelated stuff (Pitbull)
00:35.39Trancerhi sylvanaar
00:35.41GnarfozThrae: 'course
00:35.45Trancerone problem in prat in the .toc
00:35.54Mikksylvanaar: Just gogo LoadManager: AddonLoader
00:36.19Trancersylvanaar: DewdropLib is not in there properly.. when pulling it down with WAU using WITH Externals, it's not downloaded, FuBarPlugin-2.0 needs it though
00:36.34sylvanaarWhy should it be?
00:36.42sylvanaarYou used with externals
00:36.47sylvanaarits embedded
00:37.07Trancerit gives an error though
00:37.16nymbiasylvanaar: maybe ADDON_LOADED is firing in an order that confuses things? i'm not sure exactly when the LoadWith stuff gets called
00:38.04GnarfozThrae: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/tinytip/
00:38.48sylvanaarTrancer do you have your update log? or can you look in embed.xml and see if the links are still there
00:38.50Thraenymbia: ADDON_LOADED will fire in the order that addons are registered. LoadWith causes the addon to always load after the addon(s) listed, if they exist.
00:38.57Trancerlet me check sylvanaar
00:39.10nymbiaThrae: that shouldnt cause any problems, then.  hrm
00:39.20Gnarfozfirst one is over my unit frame, the other is over the NPC
00:40.26ThraeGnarfoz: Hmmmmm....
00:41.36Gnarfozmy thoughts, exactly
00:41.48Trancersylvanaar: which links specifically?
00:41.52sylvanaarit makes no sense to me - why not install prat WITHOUT externals
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00:42.06sylvanaarthe stuff in the file, there should be alot of lines
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00:42.13Trancer5 lines in it
00:42.24Trancerlet me post
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00:42.55sylvanaaroh yeah, no thats fine im wrong 5 line
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00:43.41Trancerannoying pastey.ney
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00:44.11Trancerhttp://monastery.scarlet.nl/embeds.xml
00:44.12Trancerthere
00:44.14Trancervim wins
00:45.30Trancerhttp://monastery.scarlet.nl/includes.xml
00:45.32Trancerthats includes
00:46.20Adirellenight
00:49.08CryectHmmm so apparently WoW doesn't like saving tables that link back to themselves somewhere
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00:49.45nymbiasure it does
00:49.54nymbiait just likes it too much
00:50.15sylvanaarTrancer pastey framexml.log
00:50.34nymbiaif it bailed on finding a recursive table like :PrintLiteral does, then you could say it didn't like 'em
00:50.37sylvanaaryeah, it LOVES to save _G tho
00:51.05nymbiai don't see how people manage to accidentally add _G to their savedvars
00:52.15MikkMySavedVar.MySettings.ForMyAddon.WithBackLinkToMainAddon._G copy cached for speed
00:52.16sylvanaari dont know how i did it that one time either had something to do with a function call
00:52.22Mikks/ForMyAddon/ForMyModule/
00:52.41nymbiathen you'd be saving all of your addon's fields as well as _G
00:52.46nymbiaterrible design >.>
00:52.48Mikkya
00:53.03MikkYou arguably only do it once :P
00:53.34nymbia_G is probably the most common recursive table to throw into savedvars
00:53.46Daemonaany1 can suggest a svn client? free and for windows preferred ;)
00:54.01nymbiasvn
00:54.03MikkDaemona: tortoisesvn fits that bill if you want window driven
00:54.06nymbiatortise
00:54.10MikkOtherwise just plain "svn" for win32 if you want commandline
00:54.17MikkIt's multiplatform :P
00:54.55MorghusHow do I bring up the BulkMail thingie where I drop stuff into? It seems to have gone poof for some reason
00:55.15MikkMorghus: Which addon?
00:55.21MorghusBulkMail2
00:55.29hyperChipmunkclick the inbox tab and then the send tab again
00:55.36sylvanaartort
00:55.50Mikklibel
00:55.58CIA-2203cryect * r41599 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua): Recount - Fixes the bug with saving/logging out apparently WoW dislikes look tables in save vars
00:56.03Cryectloop >_>
00:56.06MorghushyperChipmunk: It didn't help. I'll just delete the variables.
00:56.32hyperChipmunkerror msg?
00:56.33GnarfozDaemona: SmartSVN
00:56.47hyperChipmunkif you reset profile, it should restore frame positions to default
00:57.12hyperChipmunkit won't touch any of your rules
00:57.15MorghushyperChipmunk: None that I'm aware of, and I didn't think of that. I keep forgetting the reset =)
00:57.34hyperChipmunkreset and reloadui
00:57.52MorghusI haven't dug into the rules yet. I'm uncertain as to how they're supposed to work
00:58.21CIA-2203cryect * r41600 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua: Recount - Fixes a tooltip bug
00:58.31Trancerhmm where would that be sylvanaar, framexml.log
00:58.41sylvanaarwowroot/log
00:58.45hyperChipmunkMorghus: it's harmless to toy with it; just go to a mailbox and you'll see the results of your rules as applied to your inventory in the send frame
00:58.50Trancerdoh
00:58.54Trancerin the logs dir yeah
00:59.01hyperChipmunkthey don't send until you actually click send
00:59.15Trancerhmm.. no prat in there
00:59.22sylvanaarframexml.log
00:59.28Tranceryeah, in the log I mean
00:59.36Trancernow I come to think of it, on this char it did not error *think*
00:59.38sylvanaarwhat
00:59.42MorghusThe rules, I haven't checked them out yet, what do they do specifically?
00:59.44sylvanaaroh
00:59.51Trancerah it is
00:59.52Trancernvm
00:59.56Trancer6/25 01:15:19.265  Error loading Interface\AddOns\Prat\libs\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua
01:00.03hyperChipmunkpretty self-explanatory from the UI
01:00.04Trancerright after
01:00.05Trancer6/25 01:15:19.265  ++ Loading file Interface\AddOns\Prat\libs\includes.xml
01:00.09hyperChipmunkclick the fubar icon
01:00.12hyperChipmunkor /bm as edit
01:00.21sylvanaaryeah, is that file there?
01:01.20Trancerno
01:01.24Trancerbecause it's not downloaded
01:01.31hyperChipmunkMorghus: check out the screenshots on http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2
01:02.12sylvanaarwhat version does wau say you have installed?
01:03.14Trancer41308.1001
01:03.23TrancerI had it before with another version as well
01:03.35Trancerah also 41308.1001
01:03.36sylvanaarit should say +41308.1001
01:04.00Trancersays no + here
01:04.30sylvanaarmakes no sense
01:04.48MikkSIGH! WTB X-LoadOn: [delayed] Test: FuBar and FuBar.db.profile.loadOnDemand["ThisAddon"] and not FuBar.db.profile.loadOnDemand["ThisAddon"].disabled
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01:05.14sylvanaarwaht version of WAU?
01:05.22Trancer1.9.3.365
01:05.25sylvanaaroh
01:05.34Trancerbut a 1.8.2 version that downloaded a previous version of Prat did the same
01:05.44Tranceror well previous.. the same version but a few days earlier
01:06.09sylvanaarhe says the files are missing
01:06.16sylvanaarhow can it cause that
01:07.29kaidensomeone go kick mozilla in the nuts and make them adopt IE's method of rendering and conformity
01:07.40kaidenbefore i split my friggen wigg trying to recode stuff to work in both
01:07.50kaiden*venting complete*
01:08.02JaxonI think, if anything, it would be IE that is breaking compliance.
01:08.02hyperChipmunkIE conforms to something?
01:08.14kaidenIE is prettier
01:08.15Gnarfozyes, randomness
01:08.16Gnarfozchaos
01:08.18kaidentherefore it does it correctly
01:08.21kaiden:P
01:08.33vodrinIE isn't chaos
01:08.34Gnarfozthat's a weird definition of correct?
01:08.37kaidenand if you honestly go and attempt css what you think is logic comes out correct in IE
01:08.43kaidenbut mozilla is like logic HUH? BOOM
01:08.45kaidenand blows up
01:08.47Gnarfozno
01:08.54vodrinits consistently good/bad
01:09.02vodrinat its rendering =p
01:09.05hyperChipmunkit's always been the other way around in my experience
01:09.07GnarfozCSS in mozilla is like: read up about css, do it right => mozilla works, ie blows up
01:10.30kaideni'm just now making the leap from a table hero to a css zero .. granted i probably am not near what most people are.. but still when i think about it logically and how it's progressing and think of how the system would render it
01:10.37kaidenand ie renders it the exact way i think it would
01:10.44kaidenyet mozilla brain farts, that to me just says no good
01:10.49Gnarfozerr
01:10.53Gnarfozstop 'thinking'
01:10.54Gnarfozread the specs
01:10.57Gnarfozstart over
01:11.09Gnarfozwill net you results that work, both in mozilla and ie7
01:11.29Gnarfozie6... that's a whole different mess ^^
01:11.33kaidenlast time i checked if my css is passing all tests and my html is also passing standards tests..
01:11.38MorghushyperChipmunk: I just entered '/bm autosend edit', and I added my mule's name, and did an 'Include: PT3set: Tradeskill.Gather'. It's not "automatically queuing up", so am I missing something?
01:11.51kaidenthat says i'm doing it right, at least the LAST time i checked the w3c tests still stood for something
01:12.02Gnarfozthose tests are syntax checks.
01:12.42kaideni'm thinking i just have a bogus firefox, because i just had my roomie load the page and it comes out completely different (and correct) on his firefox
01:12.47kaiden*boggle*
01:13.06hyperChipmunkMorghus: does anything in your bags belong to that set?
01:13.22sylvanaarI wonder if its this capitalization thing
01:13.26Gnarfoz"cache" comes to mind :D
01:14.00sylvanaarlol weak
01:14.21Mikkkaiden: My experience has been the opposite. Mozilla and Opera just go straight ahead and do the right thing. IE barfs out and gets everything wrong.
01:16.03kaideni dunno, i only ever had problems when doing extremely complex table designs in the past.. jumping into css i feel that every little tiny thing has to be done the absolute horrendous long way to get it to work right
01:16.23TrancerMikk: that just depends on what you expect as being the right thing ;-)
01:16.25MorghushyperChipmunk: Leathers, ores, gems, stones, and some herbs
01:16.35Tranceri.e. interpret the box model in this way.. or that ay
01:16.41MikkTrancer: Oh, like, reading the specs and expecting the result to follow them? :P
01:16.55MikkHuhu.. ie6 box model
01:17.15hyperChipmunkMorghus: strange; try adding an item from your bag directly and see
01:17.17Trancerw3 should've been clear on the box model ;/
01:17.20kaidenMikk, that's not spot on.. as trancer said it's all 100% interpretation on what they think the specs mean.. whereas IE does add things to make a lot easier
01:17.40kaideni understand that could be bad however, making things easier shouldn't be considered bad
01:17.41hyperChipmunkalso, it builds the list when you open the mailbox; if you're doing it right at the mailbox, close and re-open it
01:17.59MorghushyperChipmunk: Ah, figured it out. Reloadui fixed it for some reason.
01:18.04Mikkmaking things easier is obviously very bad for something that should work in multiple platforms
01:18.08Mikkbut that's what microsoft has always done with standards
01:18.09MorghusAmazing what you can do with a small reboot of things ^^
01:18.22hyperChipmunkyou probably were at the mailbox =p
01:18.26Mikk"hey, why not inject some MS-only APIs in the java core libraries and make our devs use em?"
01:18.53durcynembrace, extend, extinguish
01:19.05Mikkexecept that one kinda backfired
01:19.09kaideni guess i'm kinda biased since i'm in redmond and honestly think they aren't the devil like most people think
01:19.17kaidenwhat's even scarier is i grew up a linux geek ;P
01:19.26Trancerthey aren't the devil
01:19.36MikkThey just hire the devil to deal with competition
01:19.38Trancerthey are just too authorative sometimes
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01:19.44hyperChipmunkyou're within the cloud of evil
01:19.48kaidenMikk, and what company doesn't buy up the competition
01:19.58MorghushyperChipmunk: BulkMail2's pretty damned hawt. Thanks! \o/
01:20.05MikkBuy up is one thing.
01:20.14hyperChipmunkMorghus: <3
01:20.16sylvanaarlol dewdrop isnt even in the zips
01:20.18hyperChipmunkglad you like it
01:20.36kaidenTrancer, I believe through their attitude they have caused great things to happen from other companies
01:20.38GnarfozI wish Shiv energy cost would be based on effective off-hand weapon speed :<
01:20.43kaidentrying to catch up or do better to show them up
01:21.43hyperChipmunkyou mean "trying to wade through in a market that's been flooded with total crap"
01:21.47DaemonaGnarfoz elaborate?
01:21.52MorghushyperChipmunk: Does BulkMail2Inbox replace Postal?
01:22.04hyperChipmunkno idea; I've never used postal
01:22.13kaidensadly for crap, there sure are alot of people that use it
01:22.25hyperChipmunkexactly
01:22.28kaidenand thousands more every day that decide to use it :)
01:22.34MorghusPostal is basically alt-click sending, open all, open selected and return selected.
01:22.39Gnarfozmillions of flies can't be wrong, shit must indeed smell good!
01:22.41kaideneven with the availability of what you guys call "non-crap" :)
01:22.44hyperChipmunkhttp://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2Inbox
01:23.03GngskBM2I doesn't do return selected, does it?
01:23.05MikkMicrosoft rocks at userfriendly
01:23.14GnarfozDaemona: shiv is based on the off-hand's speed, as stated on the weapon itself. It would be insane (and fun!) if it were based on the effective speed (modified by SnD, BF, Mongoose procs, etc. :D)
01:23.16kaideni personally would use os x over vista any day
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01:23.25kaidenhowever, i sold my last mac and just can't afford another one
01:23.30hyperChipmunkGngsk: no, but i've considered adding it. return is instant, though, so I've never had a problem
01:23.45MorghushyperChipmunk: Doh! I just clicked the link itself :P Thanks. I suppose you've done the "fix" that makes it open mail superfast? Oo
01:23.50GngskhyperChipmunk, do it!
01:23.57sylvanaarlol, its not in any of the zips
01:24.03hyperChipmunkfix?
01:24.06Mikksylvanaar: borked externals then
01:24.11kaideni would use linux if there was a wow executable for it, and you can't for one moment say OOOH cedega.. it's just not the same :(
01:24.25sylvanaarMikk hasnt changed in ages
01:24.33Mikkkaiden: no, it's actually faster from what I hear  :P
01:24.36hyperChipmunkkaiden: no, it'sn better
01:25.05hyperChipmunkplaying wow on wine was what got me to be able to dump windows for good
01:25.18kaidenmaybe you've had more luck than i've had then
01:25.36MorghushyperChipmunk: I think Grennon did something that made it open mail superfast, compared to the insane slow-motion it used to be. He mentioned he wanted to share it with BulkMail2, but I don't know if it was implemented
01:25.47hyperChipmunktry crossover; they support it since 6.0, and it's brain-dead-simple
01:25.51kaidenlast time i ran wow on wine there were just too much graphical glitches or i believe if i remember right i couldn't get it to run in full screen and when i tried my system slowed to a crawl
01:26.25hyperChipmunkMorghus: try it and find out; I've never used postal, nor looked at its code, so I have no idea what you're referring to
01:26.31MorghusWill do
01:27.00kaidenhyperChipmunk, it wasn't the getting it to work that was the problem, i was quite capable of that, it was getting it to function the same way it did in windows oh also i dual box
01:27.15kaidenand multiplicity didn't run in linux so that turned me away from it
01:27.26ThraeGnarfoz: I had to revert back to the old way of doing it, but it should be good now.
01:27.27AntiarcHey, is the files cronjob not creating new versions?
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01:27.35hyperChipmunkkaiden: I run it fullscreen seamlessly in a dual-mon environment, no slowdown at all
01:27.39sylvanaaroh there is a friggin space at the end
01:27.39CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r95 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua:
01:27.39CIA-22thrae-wow: TinyTip: Reverted back to the old usage of OnTooltipCleared to stop the OnUpdate
01:27.39CIA-22thrae-wow: script for stuck-to-cursor anchoring and positioning (which should now work).
01:27.39CIA-22thrae-wow: This is the only 100% sure way, as OnHide is not called when you mouseover two
01:27.39CIA-22thrae-wow: things right next to each other (as the tooltip is never hidden).
01:28.17kaidenhyperChipmunk, odd, mine certainly didn't run flawlessly, i had weird problems like my mouse would disappear sometimes, and my cursor on screen would go white and i wouldn't be able to click on anything
01:28.36Kinkx[2007/06/25 01:36:24-1285-x2305]: ArenaMaster-1.0\Core.lua:464: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
01:28.41kaidenand just various problems, also like i said since i dual box with 1 mouse / keyboard and use a sharing program to let me switch to the other computer when i need i had trouble there
01:28.47Kinkx2305, didn't notice :o
01:29.05CIA-2203sylvanaar * r41601 10Prat/libs/: Prat: "\Dewdrop-2.0 " -> "\Dewdrop-2.0"
01:29.08kaidenI tried Synergy2 but it has this cracked out problem with it where when you use it in wow it just makes the mouse go haywire and spin constantly and not allow you to look around
01:29.32hyperChipmunkKVM switch?
01:29.58kaidenwould be an extra step that i didn't need to take (hard to please) haha
01:31.19Gnarfozlol wtf -.-
01:31.55ThraeGnarfoz: It's giving an error?
01:32.22Gnarfozerr no
01:32.28Gnarfoznot related to tinytip :D
01:32.35Thorgard12Oh boy.. time to disable Recount.
01:32.36Gnarfozwas just ganked in mid air by a affliction warlock
01:32.50ThraeGnarfoz: Ah. Well your problem should now be fixed, anyway.
01:33.18GnarfozThrae: great, I'll give it a spin after I punch that guy into the ground several times :P
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01:41.53Wobworksigh
01:42.10Wobworkmy boss likes rap
01:42.13Wobwork><
01:42.19WobworkNot work conducive =P
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01:52.45MorghusWobwork: I'd gone mad, and demanded a pay-raise, or charge him with human rights violations under the torture clause :P
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01:54.09CIA-2203beerke * r41603 10KingOfTheJungle/ (3 files):
01:54.09CIA-22KingOfTheJungle :
01:54.09CIA-22- Fixed swapping of data
01:54.09CIA-22- Fixed stack overflow
01:54.09CIA-22- Moved all options to console based
01:54.10CIA-22- Deleted gui tab
01:54.12CIA-22- Feed Pet and Mend Pet are two seperate buttons now
01:55.17Wobworkbeerke: \O/
01:55.36hyperChipmunklol http://69.14.77.214/INV_Gizmo_ManaSyphon.png
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01:56.40MikkSad thing about separate icon packs is my guildies will never use them, so there's no point to me using them :S
01:57.37Wobworkyou'll need to institute a 'addon pack' that they download
01:57.44Wobworkand you can take over their ui
01:57.49Wobworkand control them with mind waves
01:57.56GnarfozThrae: works great now :) (except that somehow that change made all tooltips fade out slowly: before, unit tooltips would disappear instantly, frame tooltips would fade out. but I guess that's on your to-do list anyway ^^)
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02:00.00sleepypuppyhey all, Ace fan here - I know this is asked a milltion times a day, but is there a truly good Auction replacement built on Ace (like Auctioneer)
02:00.09Mikkno
02:00.28TrancerWobwork: about MrPlow, it has fubarplugin, but unfortunately it doesn't support "hide this plugin" to hide it from the minimap
02:00.38MikkKC_Items + Fence will do some of it, but Auctioneer is the state of the art
02:00.38Trancerany chance this will be supported?
02:01.52dodgizzlalawl
02:01.58MorghusI'm wondering what's in the works for KCI2 too actually
02:02.02dodgizzlaThe "cleanup" in simpleMinimap just broke the border :D
02:03.06dodgizzlaLet'see... rabbit season!
02:03.12ZealotOnAStickin a WoW macro, I want to send a tell to my target player, which is a variable, how to I get that in the macro?  %n and %t both don't work.
02:03.17sylvanaarTrancer can you update and tell me if your problem is fixed
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02:03.30dodgizzlaZealotOnAStick: With Prat and TellTarget do /tt
02:03.49sylvanaarTrancer you will have to exit the game
02:03.59ZealotOnAStickDoing an action on one line (a /use) and then a /w on the next.
02:04.06ZealotOnAStickneed something that will work just with Blizz ui.
02:04.19Trancersylvanaar: sure
02:04.48dodgizzlaZealotOnAStick: Hm, as you want to /use, I suppose /script will taint?
02:04.50Trancerupdating with externals
02:05.08sylvanaarno, you can use script
02:05.14CIA-2203beerke * r41605 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: KingOfTheJungle : - Fixed some naming in options
02:05.26TrancerDewdrop-2.0 is now in the libs dir sylvanaar
02:05.29Trancerso it should be okay
02:05.53ZealotOnAStickwhy the hell did they break that?  I know %t or %n used to work.
02:06.05sylvanaarno it didnt not for actions
02:06.26sylvanaaryou could never use it in the command, just the text
02:06.31Thraehm
02:06.32ZealotOnAStickI want a /w TargetsName Core thrown to YOU!
02:06.39ZealotOnAStickthe /use is on a preceding line.
02:06.58ThraeGnarfoz: Would you rather they disappear instantly?
02:07.17GnarfozThrae: personally? yes. tinytip had that configurable for both types, though
02:07.17sylvanaar~ /use /script SendChatMessage()
02:07.25dodgizzlaZealotOnAStick: Then just usehttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage
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02:07.44Trancersylvanaar: all fine now!
02:07.51sylvanaaryay
02:08.09sylvanaarits been missing for a long time
02:08.33ckknighthey all, back
02:08.43Chompershai
02:08.53Trancerwell it was a bit hard to track sylvanaar
02:08.53MorghusHeya
02:08.59Trancerit gave an error about Ace-OO-2.0 or so
02:09.09sylvanaarstupid space
02:09.12Trancerand then FuBarPlugin and being registered
02:09.13Chompersyou reset cowtip settings ckk on one of your updates!
02:09.31Chompersthat'll teach me for not keeping a backup
02:09.34TrancerI just ran a script to grep all dirs *with* fubar and no dewdrop.. only prat didn't have it
02:09.39Trancersylvanaar: error in the TOC?
02:09.54sylvanaarno in the externals
02:10.00sylvanaara space at the end
02:10.04ckknightThrae: I didn't steal TinyTip's code.
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02:10.13Trancerheh
02:10.19Trancernice bug to hunt ;/
02:10.20xyumy prat is broken on my mage but not my pally o_O
02:10.23xyuand it's enabled
02:10.36xyuDoes prat havea slash command?
02:11.03hyperChipmunkyea but it's really obscure
02:11.06hyperChipmunkit's /prat
02:11.07Thraeckknight: I was using "steal" as a euphemism for "used", which I'm fine with ;)
02:11.25hyperChipmunknot what you would expect, I know
02:11.43kenlyricI was expecting /tarp
02:11.53Trancerheh Prat:  "\Dewdrop-2.0 " -> "\Dewdrop-2.0"
02:12.29ckknightThrae: I tried to steal your code (on the wowace svn), I couldn't, so I came up with my own implementation
02:12.45ckknightThrae: if it's similar, it's more likely cause we thought of the same thing rather than me stealing
02:13.00hyperChipmunkI steal all my code
02:13.22Thraeckknight: I was referring specifically to your OnUpdate script for cursor anchoring, which looks almost exactly like the one in TinyTipAnchor.lua.
02:13.40ckknight<PROTECTED>
02:13.46ckknightwhere's your code?
02:13.54ThraeIt's still on the wowace svn...
02:15.09ckknightthat is kinda the same, though I'm still gonna say that it's independently derived
02:15.35ThraePerhaps ;)
02:15.57ckknightlook at it
02:16.01ckknightI do things more intelligently
02:16.11ckknight(I'm sure your new code does it better, too)
02:16.20ckknightalso a different ordering
02:16.29ckknightand I don't even mess with fading
02:16.43hyperChipmunkor, to put it another way, you do it more stupidly, Thrae
02:16.47Daemonasry Gnarfoz was a little distracted by ArkInc 2.0 beta ;) .... well shiv with effective weaponspeed would just be overpowered.
02:16.54ckknightalso you seem to stick everything in upvalues instead of locals
02:16.55sylvanaarTrancer thanks for your help !
02:16.58Daemonacan you say shiv with 0.8speed offhand?
02:17.05Thraeckknight: My new code is completely, completely different.
02:17.10ckknightalright
02:17.50ThraehyperChipmunk: Why are you so hostile to me? I don't see you being very hostile to other people. I'm going to put release versions of TinyTip on the Wowace SVN. I don't see what you have to be hostile about.
02:18.02hyperChipmunki was joking =\
02:18.20sleepypuppylove TinyTip btw, thanks for your hard work with it :)
02:18.29hyperChipmunkthe hostility was cuz you made my svn error, and i'm still bitter about it
02:18.41ckknightso I thought of a good name for my RP addon: "Schoolgirl"
02:18.59Chompersrp addon? :O
02:19.10Daemonano way ckk, that makes me think of asian teens in uniforms ;)
02:19.11ckknightI mean, that's what roleplaying is for in real life, to play out paedophilic fantasies in a legal context
02:19.25ckknightDaemona: well, yes, that's the point
02:19.26Thraeckknight: There's a reason I "mess with" fading -- you don't want to hide the GameTooltip when its legitimately showing.
02:19.29Gnarfozgeneralization is always bad xD
02:19.45Chompersrp as in " i'll get my wizard hat " rp?
02:19.50ckknightyes.
02:20.09ckknightChompers: yea, I'm dissatisfied with the current RP addons (FlagRSP, ImmersionRP, MyRoleplay), so I figure I'll make my own
02:20.15ckknightand I'm on one of the original RP servers
02:20.20ckknightso I figure it's a good testing ground
02:20.33ckknightquite a few people in the guild alliance are willing to help
02:20.59Chomperscool
02:21.03Wixickknight: How many projects do you have on the go now? Every addon i seem to download hass ckknight in it.. lol
02:21.14ckknightWixi: I'll conquer the whole UI yet.
02:21.17Chompersare RP servers like the stereotypes?
02:21.18ckknightexcept raiding
02:21.21ckknightI don't really do that
02:21.30Wixickknight: hehe your not far off i don't think :)
02:21.44ckknightChompers: if you mean people don't really RP except in /say and they actually know how to spell properly and use proper grammar, then yes.
02:21.49RogueShadowRP server's. are interesting. I went on one once.  People were talking thier racial languages. it was scary
02:21.52Chompersawesome
02:22.01Wixickknight: Have to admit, i'm hugely impressed with CowTip, thanks a lot for it :)
02:22.07Chompersmaybe i should've started on an RP server
02:22.11ckknightWixi: yea, it really wasn't hard
02:22.24ckknightWixi: seeing as I built it on DogTag mostly
02:22.30RogueShadowCowTip is pretty cool. So far I like it.  Have a couple of suggestions tho.
02:22.32ckknightI still need to fix some of the issues with that
02:22.34RogueShadowBut ti's new. it's ok
02:22.35ckknightRogueShadow: shoot
02:22.40ckknightRogueShadow: yea, like 3 days :-P
02:22.41RogueShadowckknight: Skinning difficulty
02:22.47ckknightright, that's one thing
02:22.48Wixickknight: Yeah caused me a headache to configure, DogTags and i seem to have a lot of disagreements
02:22.49ckknightI want to fix that
02:22.56MorghusThrae: Possible to test out TinyTip2 soon? =)
02:23.02sleepypuppycan mods like Cowtip and Tiny Tip coexist ?
02:23.03RogueShadowckknight: Pitbull frame tooltips don't vanish until you find another tooltip to mouseover
02:23.10RogueShadowlast I checked anyway
02:23.12Chompersgot 2 guildies using cowtip, they like the colours :P
02:23.12Trancersylvanaar: my pleasure :)
02:23.12ZealotOnASticksylvanaar and dodgizzla: thanks.  I had to use /script to define the target as a local variable, then use SendChatMessage() to send it to them.
02:23.17sylvanaardoes anyone have a chabubble frame built somehwere?
02:23.20dodgizzla~seen vhaar
02:23.50purldodgizzla: i haven't seen 'vhaar'
02:23.50ckknightsleepypuppy: what you could theoretically do is turn off all the CowTip mods except the line text one.
02:23.50dodgizzla:(
02:23.50ckknightsleepypuppy: but there's a lot of overlap
02:23.50dodgizzlavhaar broke simpleMinimap and vanished.. tricky :>
02:23.50sleepypuppythanks guys
02:23.50RogueShadowckknight: I haven't checked yet, but will Fidwizzet's sp?  hunter's helper work with cowtip. hrm... I need to check that.
02:24.04dodgizzlapurl: teh lies!
02:24.05ckknightRogueShadow: what I need is to have a spec of what precisely the tooltip can show and in what order
02:24.24ckknightRogueShadow: that way I can gleam all the important data and show whatever's left that's non-standard (like Beast Lore, Skinning level, etc.)
02:24.33Thrae~seen vhaaar
02:24.34purli haven't seen 'vhaaar', Thrae
02:24.36RogueShadowic ic.
02:24.36hyperChipmunk~seen vhaarr
02:24.37purlvhaarr <n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 2h 2m 35s ago, saying: 'JoshBorke: There is only WAU.'.
02:24.50sleepypuppycombine the two please, then.  TinyCow.
02:24.57RogueShadowtinycow?
02:25.06ckknightThrae: vhaarr left in boycott-mode
02:25.11ckknightThrae: he's on freenode still
02:25.16sleepypuppyTinyTip + CowTip ftw
02:25.28RogueShadowhaha.
02:25.46RogueShadowI don't know how I lived without CowTip's anchoring offset configuration.
02:25.51Tranceror just name it HugeBull
02:25.56sleepypuppyha
02:26.04ckknightI already have a mod with Bull in it
02:26.51Trancerpitty ;-)
02:27.45durcynckknight: right now it's pushing off data that other addons append, i.e. honorfu
02:27.46ChompersPitBull!
02:27.54Chompersoh man, that took WAY too long to work out
02:28.01ckknightdurcyn: right, I want to fix that
02:28.06ckknightwork out?
02:28.33Chomperswhich mod had 'bull' in the name
02:28.48CIA-2203rabbit * r41606 10simpleMinimap/ (9 files in 2 dirs): simpleMinimap: More cleanup.
02:28.49pastamancerI need a volunteer that reliably gets lockups when entering AV
02:29.26dodgizzlanooooo not more cleanup! fix your last mess!
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02:30.28sleepypuppywow, CowTip and TinyTip don't like each other :9
02:33.31Daemonaagreed, is the stratas error fixed mr. rabbit? ;)
02:34.36dodgizzlaDaemona: Yeah also did yer fix the minimap buttons aligning that you broke! :>
02:34.40dodgizzlaI mean rabbit :D
02:35.07CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r96 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: OK, look for Alpha value to be less then 9 (or set value), then hide if so.
02:35.57darchon_PitBull r41471 broken CombatText
02:38.35Thraeckknight: From your code, you look like you reset the tooltip every 1 second?
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02:39.21ckknightyea, I plan to change that
02:39.32ckknightThrae: it's mostly for the line texts' benefit, cause lines can come and go
02:39.46Kirkburn|afkNote that rabbit = vhaarr
02:40.27Kirkburn|afk(seeing as people were asking for this "rabbit" person a few mins ago)
02:40.32ThraeHmmmmmmm.
02:40.56dodgizzlaKirkburn|afk: Yeah I know :D
02:40.57Kirkburn|afkThose crazy 1 second guildies!
02:40.59ckknightand vhaarr is currently not in #wowace due to political reasons
02:41.14Kirkburn|afkBush said he was a terrorist :P
02:41.30Kirkburn|afkTry #guantanamobay
02:41.45dodgizzlaI heard it's pretty there
02:42.23Kirkburn|afkLots of orange
02:42.46ckknightit's actually cause he disagrees with some people who are ops in the channel who don't deserve to be
02:43.01hyperChipmunkI kicked his dog
02:43.10Chompersyou kick my dog?!
02:43.17dodgizzlaOh so he made you cry? :P
02:43.21Kirkburn|afkYou're vhaarr's dog?
02:43.24Kirkburn|afkWait ...
02:43.53hyperChipmunkit's one of those little tiny ones too
02:43.56ckknightdodgizzla: not me
02:43.57hyperChipmunkyou should have seen it fly
02:44.07Kirkburn|afkIt had wings?
02:44.21Chomperspidgeon?
02:44.27hyperChipmunkno, i kicked it
02:44.29hyperChipmunkpay attention
02:44.35dodgizzlaOkay
02:44.38dodgizzlaSo he made hyperChipmunk cry?
02:44.38Kirkburn|afkYou kicked a flightless pigeon?
02:44.44Chompersrat?
02:45.06ckknightdodgizzla: no...
02:45.14dodgizzlaBut somebody cried?
02:45.20ckknightdodgizzla: he left of his own free will
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02:45.54dodgizzlaOkay, so nobody cried. Whatever. Was there slapping involved?
02:46.45ckknightno
02:46.46Kirkburn|afkooh, I note #wowwiki beats #wowace by one +v :P
02:46.55ckknight...
02:46.56ckknightso?
02:47.10nymbiaclearly out +v'd
02:47.20dodgizzlaMan what is wrong with these days... people just leave and there was nobody slapped and no one cried
02:47.21Kirkburn|afktotally
02:47.36CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r97 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Check GetUnit() instead of GetAlpha(), because it's cleaner. Also fixed a bug.
02:47.53ckknightpart of me wants to join his boycott
02:48.03ckknightbut I think that would create more problems, not less
02:48.41dodgizzlaHm. rabbit fixed his last mess
02:48.54dodgizzlamuch <3 from me :D
02:49.45art3misboycott?
02:50.30ckknightart3mis: vhaarr left #wowace because clad and his bunch are ops and he disagrees with that
02:50.34art3misdamnit was wasnt the dramawiki updated!
02:50.46art3miswerr why wasnt
02:50.52art3misits udnerstandable
02:50.59dodgizzlaOkay since this boycott thing is on like kindergarten level we should at least make a riot
02:51.03art3misthey have nothing to do with it, but really who cares its irc
02:51.04dodgizzlaThrow stones and stuff
02:51.11ckknightespecially since clad (specifically) has been doing not much more than trolling recently
02:51.13art3misits not a kindergarten level
02:51.15ckknightart3mis: well, it's IRC-centric
02:51.17art3misit has merit
02:51.34nymbia~whaleslap Kirkburn|afk
02:51.47purlACTION beats Kirkburn|afk upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
02:51.47dodgizzlaHeh, that reminds me that I need to see Life of Brian sometime
02:51.47art3misit's like the saturn peiople suddenly controlling the main form of communication of GM
02:51.47nymbia~lart hyperChipmunk
02:51.47purlhereby declares hyperChipmunk a troll
02:51.48art3mismore or less
02:51.52dodgizzla~whalecrit Kirkburn|afk
02:51.53purlACTION crits Kirkburn|afk with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Kirkburn|afk dies
02:52.05art3misbut still there isnt really a reason to leave the channel seeing as how clad and his ops do fuck all anyways ;P
02:52.19art3misbut we really do need a Drama Wiki
02:52.25art3misso i can keep up to date on stuff
02:52.28ckknightyea, but they make unnecessary noise.
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02:52.37dodgizzlaart3mis: More like a drama blog
02:52.38art3misso?
02:52.47art3misblogs are so last century ;P
02:52.49ckknightand having them have @ gives them a sense of authority
02:52.52dodgizzlaOoooh, and everybody should be able to post
02:53.02dodgizzlaSo they can flame and whine at each other via the blog!
02:53.08dodgizzlaIt's like TiVo!
02:53.13art3misckk do reg ace2 and wowace2
02:53.17art3mismay as well
02:53.20art3misand then we'
02:53.23art3misll all move there
02:53.23ckknightreg?
02:53.29art3misand life will be fine again ;P
02:53.30Kirkburn|afkWebsites?
02:53.33ckknightlol
02:53.34art3miswith chanserv
02:53.39Chompersdoes clad deserve @ status?
02:53.39Kirkburn|afkah
02:53.42nymbialife's not that horrible now ;)
02:53.45art3misheh nope
02:53.52Chomperswhat's he done to get it in the first place?
02:53.53art3misbut it would throw off the yolk of opression
02:53.55ckknightChompers: 1 year ago, yes, definitely. today, no, definitely not.
02:53.58Kirkburn|afkPerhaps it's better to discuss this stuff when the person you're discussing is here
02:54.11nymbiaso lemme tell ya
02:54.11ckknightKirkburn|afk: clad knows my thoughts
02:54.14art3mishas anyone actually asked for the channel?
02:54.15nymbiathat Kirkburn|afk guy sucks
02:54.17ckknightKirkburn|afk: it's kaelten that needs to be swayed
02:54.18dodgizzlaKirkburn|afk: Nah, more fun this way :D
02:54.30Kirkburn|afkTalking behind people's backs won't help matters
02:54.32nymbiaso
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02:54.38art3misdoesnt hurt em either ;)
02:54.39nymbiafor those 6 and a half reason
02:54.40nymbias
02:54.44dodgizzlaKirkburn|afk: Exactly, that's why we need blogs! :D
02:54.47nymbiaKirkburn|afk is smelly.
02:54.48ckknightKirkburn|afk: trying to sway the minds of the people
02:54.50Chompersmaybe give them + status, as a middle ground
02:55.00ckknightChompers: oh yea, I recommended that
02:55.01art3misbut really does it matter THAT much?
02:55.08art3misi havent seen em kick or ban anyone
02:55.12durcynor just /join #dongle
02:55.12ckknightas prominent visiting authors, they should get +
02:55.21art3miscept that ckk twirp who kicked me once for mocking him
02:55.25ckknightdurcyn: I have no reason to do that.
02:55.28Kirkburn|afkPR is, unsurprisingly, an important thing
02:55.33durcynnot you, them.
02:55.45ckknightoh, they're already in.
02:55.58art3misor move to wowace2 ;P
02:56.09art3misand then when ace3 comes out we can migrate there ;P
02:56.15art3misad naseum
02:56.18Kirkburn|afkYou know how much crap is sometimes spread about Ace (both pro and anti), making more hardened "enemies" is stupid.
02:56.26ckknightKirkburn|afk: if I make a whole big ordeal about this, which is bound to happen anyway, I know that clad is going to personally insult me again, like he always does
02:56.30ckknightand I don't like that.
02:56.47MorghusThen comes the fundamentalists that thinks the first one was best, and declares war on the infidels that corrupts it, and there you go
02:56.49dodgizzlaYeah but then you could throw stones
02:56.55Kirkburn|afkPersonal insults I am definately against
02:56.55hyperChipmunkckknight: yo momma wears combat boots
02:57.16Chompershe was very aggressive last time :/
02:57.34Chompersunnecessarilly so
02:57.36ckknighthyperChipmunk: how appropriate. you fight like a cow.
02:57.36dodgizzlaAh, I'm trying to put some oil into the fire here and you guys are not making this easy :\
02:57.44hyperChipmunkhehe
02:57.48dodgizzlaSo I'll just leave you be! It's 5am anyways here :P
02:57.51dodgizzlaGood day!
02:57.55ckknightChompers: he's been unnecessarily aggressive for the past few weeks
02:58.00sleepypuppyCk - don't mean to bug ya, can I troubleshoot CowTip real quick with ya?  Disabled Tooltip and installed latest cowtip just to try it ... tons of UI errors with r41526 (PowerBar and HealthBar errors)
02:58.00MorghusSame here dodgizzla :P
02:58.12ckknightsleepypuppy: what's the first error
02:58.14ckknight?
02:58.19dodgizzlaMorghus: Same everywhere in Germany.. surprising :D
02:58.39sleepypuppyCowTip-r41526\HealthBar\HealthBar.lua:102: attempt to index upvalue 'healthBar' (a nil value)
02:58.49MorghusI'm not in Germany!
02:58.49Morghus:P
02:59.08dodgizzlaMorghus: But in a weird parallel universe where it's the same time as in Germany?
02:59.31MorghusDepends on how you look at it :P
02:59.55dodgizzlaHm, of course from the not-weird universe :>
02:59.55MorghusSlightly drunk, looking through the empty glass, and find all the babes are hawt as damn... sure :P
03:00.16CIA-2203ckknight * r41607 10CowTip/ (HealthBar/HealthBar.lua PowerBar/PowerBar.lua): CowTip - bugfixes in PowerBar/HealthBar
03:00.17Kirkburn|afkNorway?
03:00.23ckknightmore like Snoreway.
03:00.35dodgizzlaAh yeah, that thing. Tried it, gave me headaches. And the next morning the babes were not half as hawt..
03:00.40Morghusckknight is being mean. Kick him!
03:00.41Kirkburn|afkFinland, Finland, Finland, the country where I want to beeee
03:00.51dodgizzlaStone him!
03:00.53Fisker-NO!
03:00.57Fisker-The country you want to be
03:01.10Kirkburn|afkuh
03:01.21Kirkburn|afkWhat?
03:01.23Chompersuhm
03:01.31Fisker-thanks for playing
03:01.33Kirkburn|afkYay!
03:02.11Kirkburn|afkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Stanley
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03:02.51Kirkburn|afk"Stanley Lambchop is flattened when a bulletin board falls on him. [blah, blah, blah]. But one special advantage is that Flat Stanley can now visit his friends by being mailed in an envelope."
03:05.36ckknightokay, gonna fix the line texts
03:05.42ckknightafter some tests, I figured out the sequences.
03:05.54Chompers4am :O
03:05.56Chompersagain
03:06.31Kirkburn|afkGood point
03:07.20Fisker-I GOT BALLS OF STEEL
03:08.06uliche must have a headset or something, to say all that without being at his keyboard
03:09.28Fisker-or he has an on screen keyboard
03:09.48Kirkburn|sleepAnd now I'm sleep typing. Wannafightaboutit?
03:10.06Fisker-YES
03:15.55Fisker-:(
03:16.35Fisker-you are a bad person Kirkburn|sleep
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03:20.39starlonckknight, is there a way to show a unit's location via dogtag?
03:20.46Jaxon[zone] ?
03:23.31Hjalteckknight, i am trying to edit the text lines of Cowtip. I can't have both text and dogtags on one line? I mean, close together like "Level 70" Instead of "Level:             70"
03:25.43abyssichateckknight: About that background incosistent colouring about guildies and friendly targets - whenever friendly/guild targets get recognized as others, the health bar won't show up either
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03:26.45ckknightHjalte: sure you can
03:26.49AntiarcSo I guess using a nested table is a ton more memory efficient than concatenating strings for table keys
03:26.50ckknightHjalte: Level [Level]
03:27.00AntiarcSince you don't have to create new strings
03:27.15ckknightAntiarc: depends on the situation
03:27.22AntiarcLots and lots and lots of strings.
03:27.23ckknightstarlon: [Zone].
03:27.30starlonYa just found it
03:28.03Hjalteckknight, I thought it had to be like that, but it's not working. Only the tag comes through, making "Level [Level]" end up as just "70"
03:28.25ckknight...no
03:28.27ckknightthat's not true
03:28.31nymbiackknight: i had the same problem
03:28.37Hjalteckknight, hah! :P
03:29.44nymbiackknight: [Classification] [Level:DifficultyColor] shows up as just "70", no color
03:30.05ckknightfor friendlies, nymbia?
03:30.47nymbiackknight: come to think of it, yes, so that makes sense  but text in the front of it wasn't showing :(
03:31.19nymbiackknight: lemme go see what happens for hostiles
03:31.33ckknightnymbia: [Classification] means stuff like Elite or Rare or Worldboss
03:35.40nymbiackknight: http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7647/wowscrnshot062407213354no5.jpg
03:36.57ckknightweird...
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03:37.44nymbiayeah, something's eating that text :(
03:37.54nymbiabut when there is a classification
03:37.55nymbiait works fine
03:37.58Hjalteckknight, my problem is exactly the same as Nymbias :)
03:38.07ckknightwell, clearly.
03:38.53nymbiamy problem's different from Hjalte's
03:39.00nymbiabecause he smells.
03:39.11HjalteThat's only because i am too lazy to take a shower!
03:42.50CIA-2203next96 * r41608 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua:
03:42.50CIA-22sRaidFrames:
03:42.50CIA-22- Update locale koKR
03:43.03darchon_ckknight: r41471 CombatText doesn't show
03:44.49FlambeauBTW what happened to flexbar2?
03:46.17darchon_suspect CombatText.lua line 120
03:47.50CIA-2203ckknight * r41609 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make [Zone], [Faction], [Guild] much more accurate and cleaner.
03:48.39CIA-2203ckknight * r41610 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull_CombatText - possibly fix bug.
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03:55.42Hjalteckknight, somehow when i add [HPColor] to a line with Health:[tagtagtag] it now shows the normal text, being "Health:". If i remove [HPColor], it doesn't show the normal text.
03:55.59ckknighthrm
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04:00.40Thorgard12ckknight, been toying with DogTags in CowTip and it looks like [Name#mouseovertarget] will show you the name of the moused-over unit's target, while [NameRealm#mouseovertarget] will show you the moused-over unit's name and not his target's name.
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04:13.16syerenIs Grayhoof around :P?
04:14.08Gngsk~seen grayhoof
04:14.48purlGngsk: i haven't seen 'grayhoof'
04:16.09ulic~seen greyhoof
04:16.10purli haven't seen 'greyhoof', ulic
04:16.42ulicoh well
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04:21.55ckknightThorgard12: ah, hrm.
04:22.02ckknightThorgard12: I'll look into it.
04:22.08Thorgard12ckknight, coo' coo'.
04:25.17Neebler~seen grayhoof
04:25.19purli haven't seen 'grayhoof', Neebler
04:25.27Neebleroops
04:25.41ckknightThorgard12: yea, I know the issue, gotta fix it...
04:26.01syerenYou need to fix Aura Display so it's bamazing!
04:26.02ckknightThorgard12: basically, [NameRealm] translates into [Text([Name][Realm:Prepend(-)])
04:26.07ckknight]
04:26.12Thorgard12ckknight, rockin'. Nice work with CowTip, already replaced my previous tooltip mod with it.
04:26.25ckknightcoolness
04:27.00ThraeThorgard12: Heh.
04:27.20Thorgard12ckknight, did you see me mention that the orange 'anchor' points for the tooltips don't correspond to the actual placement of the tooltip if you've changed the scaling earlier?
04:27.25ckknightoh right
04:27.36Thorgard12Thrae, 'twasn't TinyTip. ;P
04:27.37ckknightyea, I'll basically make the anchor dealy scale as well
04:27.40ckknightso that it does correlate.
04:28.02ThraeThorgard12: Seriously? No offense, but I didn't know there was really another viable option before CowTip.
04:28.59ThraeTipBuddy 2007 -- "Now deletes your character, after deleting the characters you mouseover!"...something like that?
04:29.03Thorgard12lol
04:29.30ckknight...lol
04:31.17Thorgard12Thrae, nah, it was some hacked together bastard child of a tooltip mod a guy in my guild used. He named it TipTool, which was genious. Not sure what it was originally based on, but it looked purdy. :) Before that I used TipBuddy.
04:32.36kebinusanbeen usin tiny tip since forevah, its one of those 'it just works(tm)' mods
04:33.05durcynckknight: is it possible to stack health/power bars on the same position yet?
04:33.28ckknightit will be
04:33.30ckknightnot yet.
04:33.34durcynrighto.
04:34.08ThraeThorgard12: Are you sure it's "TipTool"? The power of Google cannot find its existance.
04:34.20ThraeIf it's not in Google, it does not exist in any digital format!
04:34.30CIA-2203cryect * r41611 10Protractor/Protractor.lua: Protractor - Fixes referencing variables 1 index deep (was working fine for lookup global variables or 2+ deep)
04:34.47Thorgard12Probably 'cause it was never posted on a UI site as far as I know. It didn't even have any slash commands.
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04:35.04ThraeIt was probably a hacked AF_Tooltip_Mini then.
04:36.29Thorgard12Are you making a new TinyTip?
04:37.35ThraeThorgard: Already did. Just need to add database and slash command support back in, as well as rewrite the stuff TinyTipExtras had.
04:37.49Antiarcckknight: Is "for k,v in next, myTable" any faster (or slower) than "for k, v in pairs(myTable)" ?
04:38.05ckknightAntiarc: pairs is clearer, use it.
04:38.10ThorgardThrae, any new bells and whistles? Or is it just leaner and faster? :)
04:38.23ckknightAntiarc: next, myTable might be faster, but srsly, just cache and use pairs.
04:38.37ThraeThorgard: Leaner, faster, and modularized so that anyone can very easily add additional functionality to it without conflicting.
04:38.39AntiarcHeh, not really planning on changing to it
04:38.41AntiarcJust curious
04:39.14CIA-2203cryect * r41612 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/GraphLib/: !!!StandaloneLibraries: Adds GraphLib
04:39.26ThorgardThrae, ah, cool. Gonna have to check it out.
04:40.26ulicThrae: is google's svn slow for you?
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04:41.11Thraeulic: Yeah, Google SVN has spurts of bad lag and spurts of excellent speed...since I only use it for testing I don't see anything wrong with it
04:41.31Bam__ckknight: ping :)
04:41.39ThraeWhen I release TinyTip, there will be a copy on the Wowace SVN.
04:41.46ulicyea, simialar here
04:42.05ulicI was using it for my own code just now for the first time and it was a bit laggy
04:42.38CIA-2203ckknight * r41613 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua:
04:42.38CIA-22CowTip_Text - major bugfix to the whole adding-lines thingy, I just figured out
04:42.38CIA-22blizz's system, then chop off whatever lines I'm replacing, but allow for any
04:42.38CIA-22extra lines that go on the end to be added after the fact. This allows for texts
04:42.38CIA-22like "Resurrectable" or "Skinning (75)", or the Beast Lore stuff to work
04:42.39CIA-22properly. This also allows for external addons to properly add text as needed.
04:42.43CIA-22Note: this is fixed to preserve coloring.
04:43.11Bam__bug reports for core libraries... should they be posted in Developer Forum?
04:43.24CIA-2203ckknight * r41614 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove the [Rez] tag, as it's extremely crummy.
04:43.29ckknightBam__: *shrug* just toss em to me
04:43.40ckknightokay, please test that
04:43.44ckknightespecially you, hyperChipmunk
04:43.54ckknightwith you and your hunterness and your skinningness
04:44.07Bam__ok... it seems that SecureHookScript does not have quite the same semantics as Blizzard's HookScript method
04:44.24Bam__Blizzard's can hook a script before it is set
04:44.31Bam__SecureHookScript cannot
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04:44.52hyperChipmunkwho wha wha?
04:45.14ckknighthyperChipmunk: test CowTip with beast lore
04:45.20ckknighthyperChipmunk: and with skinning if you're a skinner
04:45.29ckknightto make sure the Skinning (300) line comes up
04:45.39CIA-2203ckknight * r41615 10CowTip/ (Text/Text.lua embeds.xml libs/): CowTip - remove Deformat-2.0 dependency.
04:45.42hyperChipmunksorry, what's goin' on; my mind is currently a thousand levels of recursions deep making these radial menus
04:45.44ckknightBam__: hrm...
04:45.46hyperChipmunkok
04:45.48hyperChipmunki don't have skinning
04:45.54ckknightokay, nevermind then
04:45.54hyperChipmunkbut i'll check mining
04:45.56ckknighttest Beast Lore
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04:46.02hyperChipmunkon it
04:46.04ckknightnah, it doesn't mess with the mining tooltip
04:46.09Bam__ckknight: it can be quite important as you have no control over when they set the script
04:46.22ckknightBam__: okay. I'll look into it.
04:46.46Bam__in particular OnAttributeChanged does not seem to be set while in an addon's OnEnabled method
04:46.55Bam__first time it's called that is
04:47.14Thraeckknight: I haven't looked too closely at your code, but I just save the contents of the current tooltip, then add everything back.
04:47.33ckknightyea, pretty much.
04:47.47ckknightwell, I take off the top few lines
04:47.59ckknightand add my own
04:48.24ckknightI'm gonna watch Jekyll now
04:48.25ThraeRight, same here. But I go for the full NumLines in saving whatever's in there, for BeastLore and addons that hook before TinyTip.
04:48.37hyperChipmunkckknight: looks pretty good
04:48.41ThraeBut I just realized I don't save both Left AND Right, hmmm...
04:48.43ckknightoh yea, I should check up to numlines, not up to 30
04:50.01CIA-2203ckknight * r41616 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - go up to all the number of lines, not just up to 30
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04:50.27ThraeIf your tooltip has 30 lines w/ mouse anchoring, I wonder how you function :D
04:51.19NimbleRabitckknight: when combat ends my player frame "highlight" (for poison) goes away, but if I shapeshift the highlight comes right back
04:53.51Bam__can anyone think of a better way to catch changes in "override key-bindings" other than hooking SetOverrideBindingClick?
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04:56.27Lyfeany dev's from WAU around?
04:57.17wabkiaare there any bartender forums where i can make a suggestion for the mod?
04:58.50hyperChipmunkwabkia: you're in it
04:58.56hyperChipmunktalk to nevcairiel
05:01.47CIA-2203roartindon * r41617 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (WhisperFu.lua WhisperFuLocale-enUS.lua):
05:01.47CIA-22FuBar_WhisperFu
05:01.47CIA-22- Wrapping now affects menu message lists
05:01.47CIA-22- Added separate ShowMenuTimes from ShowTimes option
05:01.47CIA-22- Changed time storage format. It now stores time() and converts it to the required display format.
05:01.47CIA-22- Disabled SpamBlock by default. Seems like whisper spam is significantly reduced since 2.1
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05:05.57ckknightNimbleRabit: hrm
05:06.12CIA-2203roartindon * r41618 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (WhisperFu.lua WhisperFuLocale-enUS.lua):
05:06.12CIA-22FuBar_WhisperFu
05:06.12CIA-22- Colored hint text
05:06.12CIA-22- Removed debug line
05:07.07NimbleRabitckknight: also, it doesn't highlight again when I next get into combat, although the target's target frame that pops up (fighting mobs) is highlighted
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05:07.38Funkeh`hey
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05:17.44Kaeltenwhy did blizz start this weird stuff with numerically indexed tables :S
05:18.05Kaeltenanyone know how to convert the sv numeric table back to a regular one?
05:18.17Kaeltendo the indexes go on the one before or on that one?
05:19.08Bam__ehh what was changed and when?
05:19.54Kaeltenhrm
05:20.01|Pixel|(I'm not really sure I understand either :P)
05:20.02Bam__I remember they changed the actual syntax.. but semantics should be the same?
05:20.07Kaeltenmaybe its nothing now that I'm looking at it
05:21.16Cryectthey didn't change anything?
05:21.23Kaeltenno they did
05:21.26Cryector you talking how it numbers it in the sv file
05:21.32Kaeltenthat
05:21.32Bam__it seems they use some  heuristic to decide when to go from {nil, nil, nil, blah, nil} to {[42] = "blah",....}
05:21.37CryectIf it can it skips numbers
05:21.41Cryectif there is no data
05:21.48Cryectand it shows in comments the real number
05:21.51Cryectto make it easier for you
05:21.58Cryectif you don't count them :-p
05:22.17Kaeltenya its weird :) it used to print out the indexes for all fo them
05:22.32CryectIt won't print out the indices for any it actually sets if I recall right?
05:22.40Bam__well the new format is easier to read for humans, I'd say :P
05:23.33Kaeltenya I have a table with 50 lines it only sets the one with a 0 as the index
05:24.15Bam__though I believe they said it was done for performance purposes... I wonder if that really has an effect
05:24.27Kaeltenlot of data included in those 50 lines :)
05:24.29|Pixel|it shouldn't, really
05:24.52Bam__slightly smaller files byte-wise perhaps... but I doubt that matters much
05:25.03|Pixel|at least, once loaded, it doesn't make a difference
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05:30.32Bam__interesting just tried local t = {1, 2, 3, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, 16}; local s = {[1]=1,[2]=2,[3]=3,[16]=16}
05:30.40Bam__it does not produce the same bytecode
05:30.49CIA-2203jaslaughter * r41619 10JasonQuest/ (14 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
05:30.49CIA-22JasonQuest:
05:30.49CIA-22- The questlog from Bliz moves IDs around when adding/removing quests, as such
05:30.49CIA-22<PROTECTED>
05:30.49CIA-22<PROTECTED>
05:30.49CIA-22+ Custom Double-Wide textures since I couldn't get ahold of Kudane
05:30.50|Pixel|really ?
05:30.53CIA-22+ Slightly better memory / cpu usage
05:30.59|Pixel|interesting
05:31.49|Pixel|I mean, the assignment bytecode should indeed be different
05:32.03Bam__well the lua compiler is not known for doing a lot of constant folding or other transformations
05:32.05|Pixel|but the end result is different as well ?
05:32.35Bam__hmm... the tables are the same
05:33.17Bam__and IMO they ought to generate the same bytecode.. but that's not the Lua way :)
05:33.40|Pixel|yeah, well
05:33.59|Pixel|I can perfectly understand the table generation code is different :P
05:34.25|Pixel|as you said, it's really not the lua's compiler way ;)
05:34.58Bam__yep.. no optimizations at all :P
05:35.29Bam__except I believe simple constant folding like 1+2 becomes 3
05:35.45|Pixel|I wouldn't be soooooo sure :D
05:35.54Bam__though I read there are plans to remove that too in an upcoming version lol
05:36.02|Pixel|haha
05:36.08Bam__hmm.. havent actually tried.. I just assumed...
05:36.29Bam__yea it does.. phew :)
05:37.40Bam__if they remove that, they better introduce true constants into the language :P
05:37.50|Pixel|hehe
05:38.23|Pixel|well, I remember the time when I bitched on Lua's mailing list about their "hint" on how to produce hexadecimal constants in lua 5.0
05:38.52Bam__oh I don't even know how
05:38.56|Pixel|as their official hint was to create a global table named 'h', with an __index metamethod
05:39.03Bam__eeeek
05:39.04ckknightBam__: the tables are not the same
05:39.16CIA-2203funkydude * r41620 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: utf
05:39.18|Pixel|that'd take h.abcd and transform it into the correct number
05:39.25Bam__ckknight: ehh.... they bloody should be lol
05:39.26ckknightthey're completely different
05:39.42ckknightone uses the indexing system, one uses the dictionary system
05:39.49ckknightboth are present in lua tables
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05:40.38Bam__ok is it specified semantics that {[1]=foo} is different from {foo}?
05:40.59CIA-2203fenlis * r41621 10FuBar_WhisperFu/WhisperFuLocale-koKR.lua:
05:40.59CIA-22FuBar_WhisperFu:
05:40.59CIA-22- Updated localization koKR
05:41.36Bam__that does sound very much like an implementation detail though... is there any ways they the two tables behave differently in your program?
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05:43.33CIA-2203sayclub * r41622 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR fixed typo
05:43.43CIA-2203roartindon * r41623 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
05:43.43CIA-22FuBar_WhisperFu
05:43.43CIA-22- Converted the .wavs included to .mp3, to reduce the directory size by 300kb
05:43.43CIA-22- Removed Libs directory. WhisperFu depends on FuBar, which provides all of the libs
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05:50.46CIA-2203funkydude * r41624 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (GraphLib/placeholder.txt filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries: fix graphlib 'cause cryect sux
05:50.58Funkeh`Roartindon: spring clean?
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05:51.41CIA-22AtlasLoot:
05:51.41CIA-22- Raid loot upgrade
05:53.29PferdOneuhm...could it be that something is wrong with the recent ace2 on files.wowace.com? i updated it and now it doesnt even show in my mod list. anybody?
05:54.18loonacyPferdOne:  Did you look for Lib:Ace2 instead of just Ace2?
05:54.34Funkeh`was that english?
05:55.11PferdOnei went to files.wowace.com and downloaded Ace2 from the lust
05:55.14PferdOne*list
05:55.43Lyfelook in the mod list for Lib:Ace2, PferdOne.  (as loonacy suggested)
05:55.58PferdOnehmm ok
05:56.02LyfeFunkeh`: i got funky characters on my screen too from that quit msg.
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05:56.49Lyfeunfortunately (sometimes) the directory name of an addon isn't necessarily what the addon is called in the mod list in wow.
05:57.12Lyfecourse, it is kinda nice to be able to elaborate there, since some systems have issues with elaborate directory names.
05:58.51PferdOnewell, just thought by downloading ace2 and replacing my old one it would reapear as Ace2 in the list, and yes lib:ace2 is in my list
06:00.17Lyfethere you are.
06:00.24PferdOnewell but then, ag_uf seems to be broken cause it put's some error msg
06:01.54Funkeh`what error message
06:02.43PferdOne"..\ag_unitframes.lua:23: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook a non-existant function "SecurePartyHeader_Update""
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06:07.49PferdOnehmm ok, i redownloaded it and now it works
06:07.56PferdOnethx4help
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06:16.22CIA-2203kaelten * r41626 10KC_Items/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
06:16.22CIA-22KC_Items:
06:16.22CIA-22-Imported MasterDB from KCI .9x
06:16.22CIA-22-Ships with a master sellvalue database
06:16.22CIA-22-Added popup which will prompt you to import said master database
06:16.23CIA-22will only show this popup once automatically
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06:21.51PHL-ChuckI'm trying to get the cowtip "out of combat" feature to work for unit frames but it always shows it, I'm gonna love this feature if I can get it working
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06:22.33PHL-Chuckactually
06:22.38PHL-Chucknow that I'm reading it
06:22.56PHL-Chuckits not what I thought it was :-(
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06:28.08ckknightokay, what're you trying to do?
06:29.50PHL-ChuckI actually wanted the curser tooltip to disappear in combat
06:30.11PHL-Chuckwhich I can see why it defeats the purpose for some things
06:30.19Lyfeany of the WAU maintainers around?
06:31.10CIA-2203kaelten * r41627 10KC_Items/ (SellValues/SellValues.lua localizations/enUS.lua):
06:31.10CIA-22KC_Items:
06:31.10CIA-22- Redid sellvalues chat options a little.
06:31.10CIA-22- Added chat option to trigger a db import.
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06:31.32PHL-Chuckwould there be a way to turn it off for current target only (so you could still eyeball other characters?)
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06:38.37Litvangah... hate formatting... takes an age to redo your perform when you forget to make a backup of it
06:38.38Litvanbtw... ckknight .. I saw you were active before... I was wondering... you've made the babble-herb right.... which is used in an addon such as HerbTrackerFu... now if I wanted to either make an addon myself or gettin someone else to do it for me (I have requested it on wowace forums) that tracks enchanting materials... do I/someone need a thing like babbel-enchant ?
06:38.38ckknightyea, that's a possibility
06:39.24Litvanor can you do it without a "babble-enchant" ?
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06:40.33Kaeltenanyone using the new KC_Items?
06:40.35PHL-Chuckck, is "show non-unit tooltip" what is that exactly?
06:40.46PHL-ChuckI'm confused
06:40.50ckknightPHL-Chuck: like item tooltips.
06:41.06ckknightor spell tooltips
06:41.11PHL-Chuckso unit, unitframe, and non-unit
06:41.16PHL-Chuckunit = npc?
06:41.35PHL-Chucklike objects in game field
06:42.33PHL-Chuckcause I've turned them all to not show in combat and they still do, thats whats confusing me
06:42.52PHL-Chuckcept maybe unitframe, I dont usually hover over that
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06:50.38KillmoreKaelten: im trying it
06:50.52KaeltenKillmore: k, its still in beta
06:50.59Kaeltenand is not complete yet
06:51.02Kaeltenso be gentle :)
06:51.25Kaeltenbut I'm going to be requesting sv files to merge in with the current sell values
06:51.30Kaeltenbut thats a little down the road
06:52.17KillmoreKaelten: how it work ? im able to do a "scan"
06:52.21Killmoreim scanning right now
06:52.34Kaeltenyep, scanning works
06:55.08KillmoreKaelten: how it work after ?
06:55.24Killmorehow I can see the avg price of an item ?
06:56.18Kaeltenright now it shows the price range in the tooltip on hover
06:57.31DhragaKaelten: I'm using the new KcItems. It looke really nice
06:57.43KaeltenDhraga: thanks :) still got a lot of work to do on it
06:59.23DhragaKaelten: I use an version from last evening (about 15 hours old) and I got repeating prices 4 times on mouseover an item that have been ah scanned
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06:59.34CIA-2203funkydude * r41628 10ViewAddonMessage/ (ViewAddonMessage.toc embeds.xml): ViewAddonMessage: use embeds.xml
06:59.55Kaeltendhraga shouldn't be repeading prices 4 times, it might just be that all 4 values that it shows look identical
07:00.10Kaeltentooltip will be more customizable as time goes by though
07:00.15CIA-2203jerry * r41629 10Talented/encode.lua: Talented: Fix template encoding
07:00.28DhragaKaelten: Okies =)
07:00.43Killmoremy auctionspy is stuck on page 14/17 in weapon
07:01.04Kaeltenstuck?
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07:01.29Dhraga(my AH scanning feature worked perfectly)
07:01.36Killmorefreeze
07:01.41Kaeltenany errors or anything?
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07:02.44Kaeltenanywho, I'm going to bed
07:02.52Killmoreoh, I just run away from the auction (to close the window)
07:02.52Kaeltenfeel free to email me with more info.
07:03.12Killmorenow I got the button scan and cancel scan stack
07:03.17Killmoreand got this error message
07:03.51Wobworkaha
07:03.54Wobworkmuch better
07:03.54DhragaKaelten: I just love the new smooth fusion of information within the AH... really really nice
07:04.02CIA-2203antiarc * r41630 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files): Threat-1.0: Moved TPS calculations into the Threat core. Not entirely complete yet, I think, but shouldn't break anything.
07:04.07KaeltenDhraga: ?
07:04.14WobworkMy workmate who took over the airPort is an 80's freak
07:04.25Wobwork"turn around... bright eyes..." =P
07:04.45KillmoreKaelten: private
07:04.51Kaeltenanywho I need to go to bed, gotta wake up early
07:05.11DhragaKaelten, the way it shows the prices and (splitted prices)
07:05.19DhragaKaelten: nn
07:05.27Kaeltennn
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07:07.34Killmoreoh Antiarc is still alive :P
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07:14.17CIA-2203iceroth 071.0 * r41633 10IceHUD/: IceHUD: Tagging as 1.0
07:16.15DhragaAntiarc, thank you for updating Sanity2, it's really nice to have it back :)
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07:25.30ckknightlol: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tFRhs3-pP8w
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07:44.16ckknightpart of me wants to invent a fake belief system just in order to see how many people buy into it
07:44.23kbhlol @ typo in WAU
07:45.45kbhin the thread listing while updating the word "Download" is spelled Downld
07:45.53krkaaren't all belief systems fake?
07:46.11kbhkrka: So true.
07:47.57ckknightkrka: well, all except mine, of course
07:47.57krkathere's just different starting points... the earlier it started, the less fake people consider it
07:48.09ckknightunless you pretend it existed forever...
07:48.22kbhi believe!
07:48.41ckknightsing praises with me, brother!
07:48.43krkai dont think any of the religions claimed to have started infinitely ago
07:49.00art3misthey couldnt have
07:49.07art3misthe world is only 6000 years old ;P
07:49.13kbhckknight's does.
07:49.27ckknightwell, close
07:49.37art3misthen hes obviously wrong and we must mount a crusade against him and the infidels!
07:49.49art3misuntil he sees the one true god
07:49.51art3misme
07:49.53art3mis;)
07:49.57ckknightsouls have been implanted in our primate bodies for about 10,000 years
07:50.11ckknightbefore that, the world's creation was in "fast-forward" mode
07:50.31WobworkGod leaned on the remote control?
07:50.32ckknightso the actual creation took about a few years
07:50.34art3misi bet those "scientists" are gonna be pissed by that
07:50.39ckknightWobwork: if by god, you mean you and I
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07:50.47WobworkI lean on the remote control all the time
07:51.52ckknightthe general principle of my religious belief is that we all created this world because the infinity and perfection of the spiritual realm is boring and not a place where one can grow, therefore we put ourselves in an imperfect world to pass the time and grow spiritually
07:52.00CIA-2203punkie * r41634 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Shows Thunderfury debuff
07:52.05ckknightroughly.
07:52.26kbhwtb search by author in WAU
07:53.23Wobworkif the spiritual world was infinitely perfect, how could there be spiritual growth?
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07:53.44ckknightthere cannot be, Wobwork, thus the need for imperfection.
07:53.51Wobworkunless you mean we regressed spiritually, in order to have progression
07:53.54ckknightwhich is artificially created
07:54.08kbh<-- decimated my server's primal shadow market this morning
07:54.35ckknightWobwork: if you have a full meal every day for your entire life, you can't really know what it's like to be hungry
07:54.37ckknightbasically.
07:55.18ckknightI could probably whip up a moralistic story about sheep or ears of corn if that's necessary
07:55.54Wobworkooh, please do
07:56.03WobworkI always enjoy stories about ears of corn
07:56.08ckknightthat was a joke :-P
07:56.14kbhthou shalt not use ktm?
07:56.38ckknightI'll tell a story more relevant to today's world
07:56.38Wobworkbah
07:56.48WobworkIf you can tie in ears of corn, I'll get you a cookie =)
07:57.03ckknightyou know when you play Warcraft 3
07:57.06ckknightyou can play it on easy
07:57.14ckknightbut that gets boring
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07:57.20ckknightso you might play on medium
07:57.26ckknightbut eventually it'll get boring
07:57.30ckknightthen you might play on hard
07:57.49ckknightand each iteration become a little more complicated, a little harder to bear, and more of a struggle
07:58.03ckknightand the struggle is what it's all for
07:58.27Dottedbut then it gets boring
07:58.36ckknightDotted: not if you go on Bnet
07:58.47Dotted:o
07:58.57ckknightalso, Wobwork, I believe the poisoned grain from the undead campaign probably had a few stray ears of corn in it
07:59.09kbhckknight: not if u r gosu
07:59.19ckknightwell, I guess the goal is to be gosu
07:59.35ckknightthough it varies from person to person
07:59.55ckknighthere's another story about struggle
08:00.01ckknightsay you get raped
08:00.13ckknightyou shouldn't bitch and moan about how everything fell to shit because you got raped
08:00.16Dottedpersonal story?
08:00.44ckknightinstead, you should be saying, I got raped, this is so wondrous because now I can help and understand other people who went through the same experience
08:00.56pb_ee1ckknight: rofl
08:01.06pb_ee1I know :p
08:01.25ckknightalso, I was statutorily raped
08:01.31ckknightat least according to Illinois law
08:01.44pb_ee1?
08:01.53ckknightage of consent is 17 in that state
08:02.01pb_ee1:-P
08:02.16Dottedlal
08:02.29Arrowmasterage of consent is fucked up in my state
08:02.56Arrowmasterits only illegal if you know the other person is between 13-16 years old
08:03.02Dottedlol
08:03.09ckknight...lol
08:03.18pb_ee1:D
08:03.35ckknightso basically my beliefs are a crazy mixture between nihilism, hinduism, and mormonism, but without all that karma or "God" stuff.
08:04.01pb_ee1~wikipedia nihilism
08:04.09Dottedso you are an ateist with tendansies to weird stuff :o?
08:04.19Arrowmasteror atleast thats how i read it on ageofconsent.com
08:04.59ckknightDotted: there is no patriarchal god figure, but we are all immortal in heaven and have created this world to be as a playground
08:05.04krkawhy need spiritual growth if the spirits are already perfect?
08:05.24Dottedok
08:05.34pb_ee1(today, you'll talk about intellectual things on #wowace :p)
08:05.57kbhif god was an addon, fubar IMO
08:06.04pb_ee1lol
08:06.11ckknightkrka: we're not perfect, we're not gods, we're just immortal and bored.
08:06.32krkaif the spiritual world is perfect, why arent its inhabitants perfect?
08:06.46ckknightwell, it's not perfect, really, it's just full of abundance.
08:06.52Necrathexyou know you play too much games when you picture the world as a giant videogame played by immortal souls imho...
08:07.06ckknightto such a point where there's no real point in doing anything
08:07.18Dottedlol Necrathex
08:07.24ckknightalso because knowing that we have attained immortality, there's no real next step
08:07.41ckknightno end of the line
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08:07.46ckknightand that is a bleak outlook
08:07.47Necratheximmortality doesn't make any sense
08:08.01ckknightso, we pass the time by hanging out here
08:08.08theoddone33immortality is freaking depressing
08:08.14theoddone33I don't really want to live forever
08:08.21Necrathexthe main goal of any living thing is to die, so to make place for improved replacements
08:08.27Finwoah, woah, this is a bit heavy for the morning
08:08.37theoddone33not that I want to die either
08:08.39krkalife is like a computer upgrade cycle
08:08.39FinI'm going to need coffee before reading scrollback
08:08.44ckknighttheoddone33: precisely. why not play humans all day?
08:08.48theoddone33but eternal existence is a frightening prospect
08:09.00theoddone33perhaps the most frightening prospect
08:09.05theoddone33and I'm a christian :P
08:09.14krkathe only thing worse than dying is _not_ dying? :)
08:09.25theoddone33perhaps
08:09.35pb_ee1theoddone33: Nope, if I was immortal, I would be able to finish all my projects, and that would be a great thing :D
08:09.39ckknightright, krka, without the sweet hope of death, there is nothing to live for, as it can always be done tomorrow, or you already did it yesterday
08:09.41theoddone33hah
08:09.49theoddone33if I was immortal I still wouldn't finish all my stuff
08:09.56pb_ee1theoddone33: true ^_^
08:10.03theoddone33I'd just sit and watch stuff on youtube alld ay
08:10.13pb_ee1The immortality is not _so_ horrible: you'll always have something to do :p
08:11.08ckknighteventually, you'd end up either running out or finding it boring
08:11.22ckknightat which point, you'd enter the UT2k4 universe
08:11.24pb_ee1Sure, but this would take a loooong time
08:11.31ckknightand play FPSes for a while
08:11.38ckknightthen move on to RPGs
08:11.38pb_ee1Look at Duncan McLeod, he's not bored
08:11.41pb_ee1(lol)
08:11.49ckknightwhich includes earth
08:11.51kbhspeaking of fps, anyone play shadowrun yet?
08:11.55ckknightafter that, maybe shoot some pool
08:12.00theoddone33I played the tutorial
08:12.04theoddone33a little of it that is
08:12.37theoddone33lately I've been playing bomberman live
08:12.49theoddone33because I have super secret game developer access to unrelease xbox live arcade stuff
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08:13.14kbhblast!
08:13.46theoddone33bomberman is hands down the greatest multiplayer game ever invented
08:14.56kbhrampart!
08:17.42kbhso, a couple months ago i played mr. awesome and hooked up a random level 20 with some new armor, good advice and 10 gold
08:18.51kbhhe slowly leveled to about level 40, i bought him his mount and crafted him a set of dreamweave
08:19.24kbhnow i have the sneaking suspicion that he has paid to have his charicter powerleveled
08:19.43Necrathexit's just like spoilt kids..
08:20.08kbhwell, yesterday he was level 46
08:20.25kbhtoday he is 52 and has been in azshara all day
08:20.42CIA-2203anarelion * r41635 10FuBar_LogFu2/LogFu2.lua: FuBar_LogFu2: Load old settings at startup.
08:20.46kbhand wont respond to my tells
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08:21.00Necrathex^^
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08:22.16kbhsurely if he wanted to make me happy he would l2p instead of cheating!
08:23.42Necrathexkbh: see, you already sound like a disappointed dad :p
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08:27.36Tupsimorning, is there a way to check the threat-1.0 version from the chat?
08:31.57pb_ee1Yep
08:32.07cryogenis there some load time speedup to be gained from disembed? or is it all a myth?
08:32.22pb_ee1Tupsi: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLibrary#:GetLibraryVersion.28.29
08:32.38pb_ee1I would say /script message(ThreatLib:GetLibraryVerstion())
08:33.02pb_ee1. /script message(ThreatLib:GetLibraryVersion()) * even
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08:33.19ckknightor just /print AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):GetLibraryVersion()
08:33.30pb_ee1d'oh
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08:33.41Tupsiwell one working would be sufficent :-)
08:33.47Gandharvacryogen: Disembedding only speeds up initial loading times. You only see a difference with lot's of Ace2 Addons installed.
08:33.50ckknightcryogen: there is speedup
08:33.54pb_ee1himself*
08:33.59Tupsiill take the ckk one then thanks
08:34.01cryogenGandharva: exactly what i want
08:34.23Tupsickknight did you saw my remark about cowtip yesterday?
08:34.30ckknightTupsi: which remark was that?
08:34.45Tupsithe tooltips from unitframes dont fade out
08:34.49cryogenGandharva: my game takes about 3 minutes to log in :)
08:34.52ckknightoh, right
08:34.56Tupsii have to mouseover something diefferent to get rid of it
08:35.00ckknightcryogen: holy hell
08:35.07Tupsibut it seems to be only the unitframes
08:35.18cryogenmight be a slight exageration, but it takes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay longer than it used to
08:35.19Tupsiat least myself hovering over my pitball frame
08:35.23Tupsiwas not in a party
08:35.36Gandharvacryogen: 3 minutes? This must be some other problem... Or are you playing with 256MB RAM?
08:35.55ckknightTupsi: crazy
08:35.55ckknightTupsi: hrm, doesn't do that for me...
08:35.55ckknight*shrug*
08:35.55ckknightpitbull
08:36.07cryogenmaybe more like 2, but it's a while at least
08:36.39Gandharvacryogen: Then try disembidding. It's easy with WAU.
08:36.39cryogenanyway i want to give it a try to see if it helps, i dont suppose there is a handy "here's how you do it with wua" guide is there?
08:36.55PheredhelHi
08:37.28Tupsii only noticed it when being alone fishing with no other npcs around to target
08:37.36Tupsithen its quite annyoing .-)
08:37.44Tupsichanged it to never show now for unitframes
08:38.20Gandharvacryogen: get latest version, preferences -> uncheck "Default Mode WITH Externals", File -> reinstall all addons
08:38.26Tupsias you normaly hover over other stuff always, i never noticed it in a city or group
08:38.41GandharvaAND backup your Addons before you start :)
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08:39.09cryogeni never back them up, i dont care if they explode :D
08:39.59Pheredhelis there a standard method to filter buffs "international" or do I have to localize all buffnames I want to filter by myself ?
08:40.19Pheredheldidn't find anything usefull when i searched for it
08:40.40cryogenGandharva: thanks for that, damn wua is a lot nicer these days :)
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09:12.44Wobinis the song
09:13.00Wobinusually involving a busty nurse and lots of chasing
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09:28.36[Ammo]cartasssss...
09:28.59Wobinwe wantsss your ssssoulllll?
09:29.12[Ammo]naah he's a fat cow from my server
09:29.18[Ammo]he probably just wants some grass
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09:42.04[Ammo]I hate users
09:42.08[Ammo]with a passion
09:42.11winkillerofc
09:42.14winkillerevery developer does
09:42.24Gandharvackknight: For the most time it works, but sometimes the right side is just empty
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09:55.57dspXhi
09:56.59Fin[Ammo]: they hate you too, so that's fair
09:57.06[Ammo]yeah indeed
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09:58.50[Ammo]they can hate me all they want though
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10:05.38steev64ckknight: around?
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10:06.06steev64or anyone else familiar with pitbull and importing
10:07.22steev64basically, i've imported velveeta's Cabal and CabalTar layouts that he posted to the thread about cool pitbull layouts, but when I attempt to switch to those layouts, the target frame and the player frame just go blank
10:08.56Finsteev64: have you got the right font installed?
10:09.03Finas a guess
10:09.16steev64oh good question
10:09.36steev64probably not - i haven't installed anything except clearfont2
10:09.41Neeblerare you using the same version as the exported layout?
10:10.02Finisn't there a version check in imports?
10:10.05Neebleryou may want to downgrade to the version you want to use, then upgrade once you get it working... just a guess, never used import/export before in pitbull
10:10.17Finoh, k
10:10.18steev64not using the same revision no
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10:17.09steev64gonna try neebler's suggestion
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10:30.16steev64hmm, no, switched to their revision, and same thing, just blank, not sure what the deal is, perhaps i have something turned off
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10:31.10Finsteev64: tried the font thing?
10:31.22steev64i don't see a font setting at all
10:31.28steev64in the layout thats posted
10:31.58cryogenwhere are these preset layouts, ooi?
10:32.37steev64http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.msg114217#msg114217
10:32.57steev64thats the one im trying to use specifically
10:33.03steev64i tried enabling all the modules
10:33.04clad|sleepckknight: Saying I always personally insult you, "like I do" is really easy to say when you don't have anything to back it up.  I cannot recall a single instance where I actually throw a personal insult your way in anything other than jest, even in the heat of the deepest argument.
10:33.48clad|sleepbut what do I know
10:34.15steev64perhaps its the custom text thats throwing it off
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10:36.40FinI love people who keep conversations going on IRC over several hour intervals
10:36.54clad|sleepFin: Am i just supposed to not respond?  Logs exist for a reason?
10:37.26StephmwFin: it's the best way to keep a conversation going with people who: a) work for a living, or b) have a social life
10:37.28Finclad|sleep: did you think I was implying that you shouldn't respond?
10:37.41clad|sleepno, it was unclear which is why I asked for clarification =)
10:38.07FinI didn't intend that at all; it just makes me smile when I see replies to conversations that happened ages ago, and weren't continued because someone wasn't present
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10:39.05clad|sleepwell it wasn't so much of a conversation as it was me being called a troll, and someone who personally insults ckknight at every given opportunity (both of which I find offensive, by the way).  I can't change my op status anymore than ckknight can.
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10:39.57Finyou can't change your op status on #wowace?
10:40.01clad|sleepI wish I knew why it was so important that people feel they need to boycott the channel until its "solved"
10:40.14Finand, yes, technically it wasn't a conversation, but I think you know what I meant
10:40.16clad|sleepno, my access level would give it back next time i login.  I can only drop myself temporarily
10:40.24Punkie`clad|sleep: Throw a party and invite everyone except ckknight!
10:40.37Neeblerhe may not check logs, so send him a private message if you want him to get the message for sure
10:40.53FinChanServ won't listen to you? that's odd
10:40.58steev64can anyone tell what font that is in the screenshots from the velveeta post
10:41.06steev64Fin: chanserv won't let you change your own level
10:41.13clad|sleepI'm not responding to him, his mind is made up.  In his eyes, he wants me to be the bad guy, and nothing I do will resolve that
10:41.34Stephmwmaybe he just craves abuse...
10:41.36FinI just typed sleep in a /ctcp info when I meant version... jesus brain, wake up
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10:42.04steev64http://home.comcast.net/~rberry883/WoW/CabalFull.jpg the font in this screenshot
10:42.23FinStephmw: it's based on level? (obviously it's not, but) I would've thought it a flag that you can turn on or off
10:42.57FinStephmw: arg, I think that begins with an F, one sec
10:43.00steev64its based on "level"
10:43.09StephmwFin: *brain wake up!*
10:43.13Finand, arg, sorry!
10:43.16Stephmw:D
10:43.36steev64channel owner sets a user to a certain level, based on that level, is what chanserv does
10:43.45Fin(-Stephmw+steev64)*2
10:43.58steev64yeah i figured
10:44.28steev64Francophil Sans and Friz Quadrata TT are the only F fonts (that i have available)
10:45.08FinI was thinking of Francophil, but I know I have that font installed
10:45.16FinI'll tell you after I've finished updating addons
10:46.18steev64arrighty
10:46.22steev64er, alrighty
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10:47.46steev64i do find their toolbar dedicated to emotes to be quite funny
10:48.28clad|sleepwho is Chompers?
10:48.59Punkie`I think he's some user, why?
10:49.41clad|sleepapparently he's an authority on my behavior.  I'd love to know _what he's talking about re: "Chompers: he was very aggressive last time "
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10:51.05Neeblerhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/13/the-masterminds-of-wow-on-gaming/
10:51.27Punkie`well, if you ask me - a lot of IRC chat and general 'text' chat can be misread very easily
10:52.11clad|sleepunderstood, which is why i'd prefer someone ask me
10:52.12clad|sleep*shrug*
10:52.17Neeblertext and phrases can be sterotyped as "angry" or "nice". Doesn't mean I'm the exact oposite when I type them
10:52.21Finwork complete
10:52.27clad|sleepsame reason why ckknight feels i'm personally insulting him "every time i talk"
10:52.35Neeblererrr.. tired need to sleep
10:52.39clad|sleepwhich couldn't be further from the truth.. I've never intentinoally thrown a personal insult his way
10:52.51clad|sleepin my vernacular, saying "that's retarded", "that
10:52.53FinPunkie`: that's true, but also often used as an excuse
10:52.54TheKarninsult me instead clad
10:53.00clad|sleep"that's stupid", etc. doesn't quite count
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10:53.09TheKarna) i dont pay much attention to my irc window and b) i couldnt care less ;)
10:53.25ckknightclad|sleep: what about "you're retarded" or "anyoen who implements that way is an idiot."?
10:53.35ckknightthose are just passing, friendly comments?
10:53.44clad|sleepother than the fact that it was most likely said with a smiley
10:53.47Punkie`ckknight: Ammo talks like that too :p
10:53.49clad|sleepand i don't recall ever saying "you're retarded"
10:53.57clad|sleepand again, its a written medium that is difficult to judge intent
10:53.58clad|sleepso agaikn
10:54.01clad|sleepfor the 13,000th time
10:54.03sylvanaaro.O good morning
10:54.04ckknighthttp://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowace/20060817.html.gz near the bottom
10:54.18clad|sleepI'm sorry if you feel I ever personally insulted you.  If I came across that way it wasn't my intention
10:54.20ckknightit was right before I kicked you for insulting me
10:54.23clad|sleepNot sure what more/else I can say or do.
10:54.27ckknightclad|sleep: you can leave.
10:54.35ckknightor minimally:
10:54.37clad|sleepckknight: excuse me?
10:54.38ckknightyou can ask Kaelten to remove ops
10:54.52ckknightsince you're no longer part of the wowace bunch, I don't know why you have it.
10:54.58FinStephmw: hmm, are you sure it's not Francophil sans
10:55.00Finhey syl!
10:55.01ckknightI don't like you having a sense of authority here.
10:55.04clad|sleepyes... and I'm supposed to magically have made this happen already this morning, him living in California?
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10:55.15ckknightno, no
10:55.19ckknightI don't expect it right away
10:55.22Finarg!
10:55.24ckknightmaybe a day, possibly two
10:55.28clad|sleepand you honestly thought I want to keep this just for drama?
10:55.32ckknightsurely the line of communication will be made then
10:55.38ckknightclad|sleep: yes!
10:55.43clad|sleepwhat kind of a person do you really think I am?
10:55.44Finsteev64: are you sure it's not Francophil sans?
10:55.45clad|sleepI think what rabbit is doing is purely childish
10:55.55clad|sleepbut if you think for one second I actually have a desire to split this community
10:55.56ckknightand I see you as two-faced and backstabbing, personally
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10:56.01clad|sleepthen that's extremely disappointing to me.
10:56.03HealthWhat did rabbit do?
10:56.07clad|sleepnow who's personally insulting.
10:56.08ckknightthen be disappointed
10:56.14clad|sleepwhy don't you go talk more shit about me in #wowace-dev
10:56.17clad|sleepmaybe then you'll feel better
10:56.34ckknightwhy don't you stay in #dongle
10:56.35ckknight?
10:56.42clad|sleepI do.
10:56.44clad|sleepnaturally
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10:56.58ckknightthen I want you to promise me that you'll contact Kaelten to remove ops.
10:57.00JoshBorke/t mikk what did i miss? o.O?
10:57.07JoshBorkerofl
10:57.10steev64ckknight: might i interrupt to ask, as the developer of pitbull, if you can see a reason why importing http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.msg114217#msg114217 won't work?
10:57.12StephmwFin: are you just typing random nicks?
10:57.13ckknightotherwise I'll try to pressure him myself
10:57.26steev64Stephmw: i think his tabcompletion just sucks :-P
10:57.34FinStephmw: no, I'm typing "ste<tab>", and stupid
10:57.35clad|sleepno, i'm not promising you anything, after the things you've said about me, and the things you've done I don't owe you anything.
10:57.43clad|sleepother than insults back, which I won't do.
10:58.02ckknightfrankly, I see almost every move you've made (especially in the past 2-weeks to a month) to be backhanded
10:58.08clad|sleepsuch as?
10:58.13FinStephmw: and it's only you I'm being crap with :) sorry!
10:58.13clad|sleepcould you provide a single example/
10:58.18Finsteev64: well, you too
10:58.32Finregarding names I'm being crap with
10:58.37ckknightclad|sleep: I've already pointed out your trolls, and you don't see them as such, due to a glazed perspective
10:58.40steev64yeah, i figured you were talking to me though :)
10:58.42ckknightso I don't know how to show you
10:58.55clad|sleepalso, in this log.. I'm sorry I said that, and I apoligized personally for it, as well as clarified 16 seconds later that I was in fact kidding.
10:58.58clad|sleepckknight: What trolls?
10:59.04clad|sleepwhen have i said anythign non-ace
10:59.24clad|sleepthe last instance, I asked a question and instead of a real answer, got answers that really shouldn't matter.. so I wanted to understand why they did.
10:59.29Finsteev64: so... it *was* you who wanted to know which font it was, right
10:59.30clad|sleepyou _want_ me to be the bad guy
10:59.33clad|sleepit seems
10:59.37steev64Fin: yessir :)
10:59.47Finsteev64: and are you sure the font isn't Francophil sans?
10:59.53Finoh I see
10:59.54ckknightclad|sleep: I think you are the bad guy who pretends he's a good guy
10:59.56steev64though i don't see why the font would be the issue when that isn't set at all in the layout as far as i can tell
11:00.04Finit was just a guess really mate
11:00.07steev64the only thing i can think, is something in the dogtags are messed up
11:00.19ckknighttake that as a personal insult if you will, I've stopped caring about your well-being ever since you stopped giving a shit about mine
11:00.25ckknightI thought we could work together, I really did
11:00.30ckknightbut I guess not
11:00.31clad|sleepand i tried.
11:00.32ckknightmaybe just small doses
11:00.40ckknightand perhaps you've made those doses far too great.
11:00.41clad|sleepyou stopped that quite some time ago
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11:00.51FinI wouldn't've thought it likely, just a thought
11:01.29MikkJoshBorke: I'm outta popcorn. Can you pass me some more?
11:01.38JoshBorkesorry, i gotta get naked and read for work
11:01.41[Ammo]Mikk: I'm working on custom channel reporting
11:01.51[Ammo]so hope you haven't done anything like that yet :p
11:01.55JoshBorkes/read/ready/
11:02.08Mikk[Ammo]: No, I managed to completely and utterly forget about that =)
11:02.22clad|sleepckknight: its nice to see that you feel fine personally insulting me, not to mention the amount of personal slandering that happens by your crew behind closed doors, but I have an obligation to not do the same.
11:02.32clad|sleepwhat a twisted world
11:02.35ckknightclad|sleep: I remember (this is after you called me a retard and I kicked you) that I told you to not personally insult me, and you said that you would do "whatever the fuck you please"
11:02.42clad|sleepi will
11:02.47clad|sleepyou dont' have a right to tell me to do anything
11:02.51[Ammo]Mikk: good
11:03.03clad|sleepI regulate my conduct based on what I feel is right
11:03.06clad|sleepnot what someone tells me to do.
11:03.13clad|sleepAnd I've already apoligized for it
11:03.16cryogen[Ammo]: any chance that it could remember the last person(or 2 or 3) that you reported to in /w?
11:03.23ckknightclad|sleep: if you ever personally insult me or even send a back-handed compliment my way ever again, you'll have wished that you haven't
11:03.24clad|sleepbut rather than let me talk or understand the context, you just kicked me again
11:03.26ckknightthat's all.
11:03.26steev64ckknight, clad|sleep, can you two both "stop"? please, i realize im just a user of the addons, and i don't know the back story, but I am a Gentoo developer and see these kinds of things happen on IRC all the time, the best thing either of you can do right now is to just sit back, relax, and /ignore each other, or just not say anything to each other
11:03.30clad|sleepckknight: Now you're threatening me?
11:03.44Trancerdoesn't this drama belong in a query window?
11:03.44clad|sleepckknight: I didn't think this could get any more inappropriate.
11:03.52ckknightclad|sleep: no, I'm not. I'm telling you as nice as I can to never insult me again.
11:04.00Mikksteev64: Oh, this has been on and off for a year. Breaks don't help :P
11:04.04[Ammo]cryogen: it already remembers the alst person you whispered too
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11:04.12[Ammo]cryogen: you can just click the group to send it to them
11:04.18clad|sleepckknight: I've apoligized, I'm not going to do it again to pander.
11:04.31ckknightfeel free to do it in a query window where no one can see
11:04.43clad|sleephrm?
11:04.43cryogen[Ammo]: i mean the last person you actually typed in, that wasnt in your party
11:04.52ckknightwe wouldn't want the world to know that you're actually sorry
11:04.53cryogenif it already does that then i must have missed it or it must have been added in the last week or so
11:04.58Mikkcryogen: Yeah, that person is saved
11:05.00steev64Mikk: then the best thing anyone can do is /ignore :)  of course, i use irssi and still haven't figured out how to remove an ignore, but hey, it cuts down on the conversations!
11:05.06clad|sleepckknight: I've done it here.. thirty thousand times.
11:05.14Mikksteev64: lol, ouch :P
11:05.19clad|sleepOddly enough you don't have those logs bookmarked
11:05.32mikmacall him retard once, apologize 3000 times. that's fair
11:05.40Mikkmikma you retard
11:05.41ckknighton that note, I am sorry for being a dick to you, but I can't always sit idly by when you're a dick to me
11:05.42clad|sleepor a week ago when I cleared the whole Ace drama from a year ago in a fair and balanced account of the whole thing.
11:05.44ckknightso there, I'm done.
11:05.46cryogenmaybe it loses that person when you report to party, or something
11:05.48mikmaMikk: 3000 starting now.
11:05.48cryogeni'll check later
11:05.55Mikkmikma: *cry*
11:06.10mikmabetter get started or else i'm gonna visit you in sweden
11:06.19clad|sleepckknight: Oh and hey "clad|sleep: I'm sorry if you feel I ever personally insulted you.  If I came across that way it wasn't my intention"
11:06.28clad|sleepreally looks like I'm trying to hide it.
11:06.35Mikkoh shit, angry finns with saunas and stripped birch switches
11:06.38ckknightthe road to hell is paved on good intentions.
11:06.40Finactually, hey, the Francophil sans font is pretty nice... might stick with this for a while
11:06.43ckknightso I don't believe in inteion
11:06.45ckknightintention*
11:06.50ckknightI believe in results
11:06.56steev64Fin: likewise
11:07.01clad|sleepckknight: ....
11:07.07clad|sleepckknight: i apoligize and you pick it apart
11:07.10HealthI vote for more pussy
11:07.12clad|sleepwho's being the bad guy now
11:07.13Healthrelaxing
11:07.14clad|sleep...
11:07.25FinI love Calibri like a sister, but I'm always looking for something different, nice to have a change
11:07.27clad|sleepyou honestly can't even accept an apology from me without having to get the last word in?
11:07.28ckknightclad|sleep: someone who's very hurt and angry
11:07.36clad|sleepwell ditto buddy boy.
11:07.48clad|sleepif you think you're faultless in this whole situation, you're sorely mistaken
11:07.53ckknightoh, I know I'm not
11:07.59clad|sleepBut notice that I leave all of that out in the interest of the channel and this conversation
11:08.05Finwon't somebody please think of the children?
11:08.07clad|sleepno reason to TRY and drag someone through the mud
11:08.20ckknightif it will get you to leave, it's worth it to me.
11:08.37ckknightyou are too much for me to bear
11:08.39clad|sleepckknight: Thank you for revealing to everyone exactly how you feel
11:08.45ckknightI'm the weak one for not being able to handle you
11:08.48clad|sleepI think that's entirely hypocritical, and I'm not leaving, sorry.
11:08.49ckknightthere
11:08.57ckknightI can't take your constantly-berating ways.
11:08.58winkillerfont discussion again? :P
11:09.11steev64its not the font!
11:09.12ckknightbut you don't belong here, you left.
11:09.17steev64i dunno why the layout won't work :(
11:09.18clad|sleepI have a right to be here, my mods are discussed here, things that matter to me are discussed here
11:09.24clad|sleepwhether you like this or not.
11:09.46clad|sleepI can't waste my time with this anymore, I have to go shower and get ready for work
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11:10.35steev64Fin: personally, that font appears to me to be more like Impact than anything else
11:10.43ckknightnow I'm sorry to everyone else for having that whole blowup, but I just can't take him sometimes, the underhanded insults berate me too much and I get to a point where I explode. Sorry, everyone, it's past my bedtime
11:10.58steev64ack, no! not bedtime
11:11.40clad|awayI've done nothing but TRY to work with you, and the rest of the ace community, and I've done a LOT to bridge the gap in the past month or so.  I don't want to be a good guy, but I certainly don't like being made out to be the villain of a channel, when I'm far from it.
11:11.53TheKarnckknight, when personalities clash and things are said that are taken in the wrong way (or as intended - but stated for the other meaning) there isnt anything you can do about it - no need to appologise
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11:12.31ckknightI'm still not thinking right, though, I know I can be a dick at times, I just don't want to upset anyone else in the channel
11:12.41ckknightand sorry, steev64, and the rest for not being able to get to your issues
11:12.47ckknightI gotta sleep
11:12.59TheKarnnn mate, sleep it all off
11:13.00steev64alrighty, maybe ill post to the forums when I get to work
11:13.18ckknightthat'll work
11:13.40Finsteev64: which, the one in the screenshot? I'm dead certain that's Francophil sans - it looks exactly the same on my screen
11:13.48FinI'll shoot it for you if you like
11:15.06HealthMmm. Dick.
11:15.16steev64Health: tmi
11:15.17TheKarnnow if only i could coax Antiarc into implementing bank support into SanityBags
11:15.26Fingodammit WoW really doesn't like it when I alt-tab too much
11:15.29steev64Fin: sure, would like to see it
11:15.34steev64i have a smaller screen though
11:15.39steev64so 1280x1024 here
11:15.40TheKarnFin - run it in fullscreen window mode
11:15.50winkillerget a second monitoz
11:15.54steev64though my girlfriends monitor is here, i should switch to it
11:15.59winkillernever had a crash related to "alt-tabbing"
11:16.01steev64hers is larger :(
11:16.05HealthFin: Use fullscreen window mode and you can alt+tab without crashes
11:16.08FinTheKarn: I will when I get my other monitor
11:16.18steev64i've never had it crash on me when i alt-tab a lot
11:16.27TheKarnFin: there is no downside to running it on a single monitor
11:16.34TheKarnanyway i need to pop out and pick up a mate
11:16.36TheKarnbbl
11:16.39Finand it doesn't work in fullscreen mode for me atm because one of my taskbars is "always on top" and it keeps appearing for some reason
11:16.49TheKarnslap it.
11:16.53winkillerdont make it always on top :P
11:16.58Finthe other taskbar used to be on my other monitor
11:17.01winkillerI've never EVER managed to drag some window over it
11:17.13Finbefore it died
11:17.19mikmathe end
11:17.26Finnono
11:17.31Fin~ Fin ~
11:17.32syerenckknight, this may possibly the worst time to ask this question, but what are the Party Target frames labeled as?
11:17.37syerenI can't find them in ermm.. Clique.
11:17.45steev64syeren: i believe he's in bed
11:18.04DaemonaFin probably the alway on top issues is related to a programm requesting focus (e.g. mozilla's download window) or a programm in the notification area of the taskbar wanting to display an "information bubble"
11:18.13steev64Fin: i still think its related to DogTags though in the copy and paste
11:18.33MikkOn another note, I think WoWAceUpdater should integrate libtorrent :P
11:18.33Finsteev64: oh, sure, I totally agree :)
11:18.37steev64istr that if you screw up a tang it will go blank
11:18.41steev64er, tag*
11:18.57FinDaemona: huh, you're probably right, nice one - thanks! I'll see if I can figure out what that might be
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11:19.07Finit's actually at the top of my screen though
11:19.12Finso it's not the notification area
11:19.18Finbut maybe the bottom one is affecting the top one
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11:21.14Finsteev64: actually DogTags would've been my first guess as well, I just didn't have any suggestions related to it :)
11:21.29steev64im thinking perhaps its not importing the dogtags
11:21.55steev64no, they are there, hrm
11:22.01steev64perhaps some syntax has changed
11:22.11steev64oh well, waiting on the mail to show up so i can post to the thread
11:25.20steev64Fin: yeah i think you are right about the font
11:26.16Neeblerhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110531513&sid=1&pageNo=1
11:26.20Neeblerhardy har har
11:27.47steev64oh snap, lovins for shaman!
11:28.17steev64yes!
11:28.24steev64they are finally adding the rouge class!
11:28.56Neeblerbtw my link is for 2.2 fabricated patch notes
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11:30.24NeeblerI slep
11:31.42cryogenfake patch notes are always fun to read
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11:31.54sylvanaar=P BITS
11:32.28steev64yeah they are
11:32.34cryogenyou didnt actually add that did you?
11:32.41steev64oh awesome
11:32.44steev64can report into trade
11:32.52sylvanaarwho me? no
11:33.57cryogenthose fake patch notes suck btw, just random rambling, not actually believable, or funny :p
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11:40.30dakaryo brother
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11:41.30Fincryogen: I think most people shoot ammo...
11:42.55Finsylvanaar: "BITS"?
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11:44.39sylvanaarbackground downloader part of windows
11:44.51Finaha
11:45.03abbat_wbackground intellegent transfer service
11:45.20abbat_wcrap required for stuff like automatic updates
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11:51.15Finsylvanaar: any idea what ChatHead is?
11:51.20Punkie`Does Quartz show Aimed shot for Huntards?
11:52.20syerenI believe so.
11:52.24syerenIt has an auto shot timer.
11:52.39sylvanaari think it pastes the channel on the front of your chattext idk
11:52.43Punkie`I know it has that, but hopefully it has an aimed shot one too :)
11:53.49Finalso, is it foolish to want to dick with tooltips?
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11:54.23krkawtb more ACE drama
11:54.30FinI'd like to modify AltNames to add the option to show someone's main name in the tooltip (and maybe a list of their alt names)
11:54.40Finkrka: ACE is not an acronym.
11:54.55winkillerVitamine A C and E are important
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11:55.12trh"#
11:55.12trh# Will of the Forsaken will be removed, due to popular opinion. Replacing it will Emo Feelings of the Forsaken, which makes the /dance emote cooler. I mean, coolioo.
11:55.14trhlol :)
11:55.27sbu;o
11:55.40sbumorning
11:55.45Trancerit also has a slit wrists animation
11:55.46krkaFin: you're wrong!
11:55.49krkait's Annoying Components Embedded
11:56.08krkanow, gimme the drama!
11:56.22Finkrka: Advanced Computing Environment
11:56.40Fin"ACE - Adaptive Communication Environment (OO, C++, programming toolkit by Douglas Schmidt)"
11:56.48winkillerAbsolutely Confident in Everything working
11:56.56FinAutomatic Computing Engine
11:56.59HealthMmm. Doggie Schmidth.
11:57.18FinAssemblies, Components, and Elements
11:57.35Finalso ASAS Collateral Enclave
11:57.54Finooh, I like "Alliance for Customer Excellence" :P
11:58.12Finalthough I think I'll go with Alkyl Cobalt Dicarbollide Extraction as my final choice
11:59.00cryogensurely that's ACDE?
11:59.04cryogenand not ACE
11:59.14Finnot according to this list of acronyms, no
12:00.27Daemonahrmmm
12:00.59Daemonaanyone ever considered implementing a waypoint optimisation algorithm for cartographer?
12:01.22[Ammo]you mean A* or dijkstra pathfinding for multiple waypoints?
12:01.41[Ammo]I remember some discussion months ago about that
12:01.42FinI think krka has
12:01.43WobinDaemona: yes
12:01.56WobinIt's in the todo list...
12:01.57Daemonayeah, for like "add all nodes of type x to a list and create shortest route"
12:01.58Wobinsomewhere...
12:02.11FinI tell you what would be nice
12:02.17Finthe ability to save a series of waypoints
12:02.25WobinNah, it'll be more "List of nodes, and find the next closest"
12:02.33Finthen I wouldn't have to keep recreating the herbing paths I set up
12:02.34Wobincause I can't be bothered writing a travelling salesman algo
12:02.49Fincos there's some herbs I don't care about
12:02.54krkashortest route has been autotravel since first release
12:02.58krka+in
12:03.05Finshame it hasn't worked for over a year
12:03.17krkabut yeah, TSP is something different
12:03.30Daemonaautotravel? that was this flight path addon wasnt it?
12:03.36Finnoooo
12:03.57Finit was krka's amazingester automatic travel system!
12:04.10Finwhich broke when they disabled script access to movement functions
12:04.45Finyou could set up points to create paths, and then just click one to start walking along it
12:05.05Daemonai could be bothered to PAY for it to get added to carto ;)
12:05.15Finand you could have automatic use of particular paths on zoning, I think, I'm sure I used to have something where I automatically walked over to the mailbox from the inn when I hearthed
12:05.16Wobinwoo =P
12:05.18Daemonait would just make farming terocone less painful
12:05.52Finjust do it at 4am :)
12:06.04Daemonaa stack for 35g in the ah isnt something i do consider acceptable.
12:06.04Finor buy one of those chinese farmers! I got one, great value
12:06.07WobinThat doesn't make it any less painful =P
12:07.47CIA-2203arkayenro 07v2beta * r41640 10ArkInventory/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
12:07.47CIA-22ArkInventory:
12:07.47CIA-22- v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-24-02-00
12:08.24Punkie`Terocone is one of the easiest herbs to farm o.O
12:09.13MorghusPunkie`: ... not when you have 5 people that continuously farm it :P
12:10.17abbat_w..or if you have some china ppl in you server
12:10.20Punkie`I'd consider myself to be on one of the biggest servers and I really haven't had a problem
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12:10.49Matrix110abbat_w tbc herbs are not farmed by goldsellers they are farmed by people using Bots themselves or normal ppl farming them
12:10.50DaemonaPunkie` i manage to come up with 1 stack after one hour at 2pm
12:11.00MorghusMe'n two guildies had -all- the terocone in Terrokkar for a day when we didn't have any better to do :P
12:11.37Punkie`Daemona: Do you ever poke into Shadowmoon Valley or the little bit to the west of Shattrath?
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12:11.51Daemonai know em all
12:12.08Daemonasw terrokar, se terrokar, mid norht shadowmoon, mid south shadowmoon
12:12.24Daemonai am king in camping mana thistle above shattrath while watching tv though ;)
12:12.46Iceroththose used to be so sweet spots with epix flight form :-/
12:12.56Icerothnow i actually need to pay some attetion to it :-/
12:13.03MorghusDaemona: haha. Same. Confirmed the respawn rate and all as well :D
12:13.07Punkie`I find that if I don't get any terocone in like 10 minutes, i start getting the repop trail :P
12:13.41Punkie`Morghus, what is the actual respawn rate on herbs?
12:13.41Daemonaisnt the node respawn 7 minutes ? ;)
12:13.59Morghus6, at the least
12:14.16MorghusHad several occasions where they popped up right below me
12:14.24Morghusafter 6 mins
12:14.42Daemonawell i am using a400 seconds timer
12:14.52Daemonaand start cruising once its over
12:15.46MorghusI'd like a timer-bar that starts as soon as I loot a mana thistle :(
12:16.50[Ammo]with coords eh? :p
12:17.18Icerothlittle arrows point to spawns :)
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12:17.31Morghus[Ammo]: That would be icing ;)
12:17.56Punkie`A node can respawn in different locations though, right?
12:17.56MorghusRight now I'm using FuBar TimerFu
12:18.05MorghusYeah, but only in that zone
12:18.12MorghusMana Thistle has mini-zone
12:18.16Morghus*zones
12:18.23MorghusLike above Shattrah
12:18.26Punkie`yeah
12:19.20Finsooo... tooltips - easy enough, or a minefield of cooling cowturds?
12:19.46Kirkburn|sleepCan an op ninja edit the topic to say WAU 1.9 not 1.8?
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12:25.59Rasdhey anyone that can help me with oRA2 ?
12:26.06[Ammo]I can
12:26.42Finwhat's good for recording videos in WoW? I know about fraps, is there anything better or just as an alternative?
12:26.47[Ammo]type your question rasd
12:27.02RasdI installed sraidframes and oRa2 since i need to make the group windows smaller and better then with ct_raid. Now the 2 icons for them come atop of each others. I could not find any way to move oRA2 button at minimap so i disabled it
12:27.10Rasdhow can i get oRa2 button back to minimap ?
12:27.47[Ammo]try: /ora minimap
12:28.01[Ammo]to move the button, hold alt and drag it
12:28.03[Ammo]or just drag it
12:28.11RasdThanks very much
12:28.33RasdNOw i need to find some victims to join a fake raid so i can set up the group windows :D
12:28.48[Ammo]doesn sraidframes have a 'config' option?
12:29.35Rasdwell i want to see how it looks when i have a raid of people
12:30.02Finnoone got an opinion on dicking with tooltips then?
12:30.37Finthey just seem a bit tricky
12:30.49Finfrom my limited knowledge
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12:37.07Rasdhow can i take away wow standard group show on the left side of the game ?
12:37.34[Ammo]disable party frames in raid
12:37.39[Ammo]from the blizzard interface options
12:37.54trhsometimes that doesn't work, but usually it does =)
12:38.04Finyeah, they reappear sometimes
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12:38.12FinMoveIt would hide them for you as well
12:38.27Finit's like MoveAnything, but better
12:38.29abbat_wvizor!
12:38.36abbat_wi.e. vizor2
12:38.42Fintoo complicated!
12:38.46Finunnecessarily complicated
12:38.51Rasdthanks very much people my screen is getting a bit cleaner now. Was annoying to only have health/mana bars eveyrwhere on screen and did hardly see where i was moving :D
12:39.04Finare you a rogue, then? :)
12:39.20Finor, ah, I see, just in raids :)
12:39.32abbat_wpff... stop pve runs then ;)
12:39.39abbat_wmake a clean ui and run only pvp
12:39.48Rasdhehe
12:39.53abbat_wBetter fun btw ;)
12:40.00Rasdwell i am a druid...
12:40.00abbat_wAnd much lower repair cost
12:40.03Finheh
12:40.05Rasdnot so fun to do arenas as druid
12:40.05abbat_wDruid?
12:40.12abbat_wPff
12:40.24Finrewards are great in pvp as well... I really should pvp more
12:40.26abbat_wDruid it's a best support class for every class
12:40.33Rasdyeah thats true
12:40.35Finpaladins might argue with that
12:40.44abbat_wWhat about me, i like to play with druids. I'm mage ;)
12:40.48Rasdpaladins is the best arena class
12:41.09abbat_wNot healing btw but cyclones/stuns/roots/etc. And some healing ;)
12:41.23Rasdso back to raidframes again. Can i have it show who has my buffs ?
12:41.54abbat_wbtw ;)
12:42.27Rasdroots is the most hilarious cc in game imo. Brakes way too easy
12:42.33abbat_wi like how druids looks in travel form ;)
12:42.56abbat_wRasd, almost every cc. Ask rogues about blind for example
12:43.07Kirkburn|sleepFear!
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12:43.20abbat_wAnd i sometimes i have locks/priests. They dot everywhere
12:43.25abbat_wEven my sheeps ;(
12:43.37abbat_wAnd sometimes i hate locks/priests. They dot everywhere
12:43.45Rasdhehe
12:44.15Rasdwell fear and sap and others things i never seen being broken like roots can be before animation even is done
12:45.00abbat_wI think i'll try druid after mage :)
12:45.04Rasdbut its nice we druids cant be sheeped at least
12:45.08abbat_wI think i can be good pvp druid
12:45.34cryogendruids is hell fun in low level pvp
12:45.39cryogen*hella
12:45.59cryogencant speak from experience from higher levels, but cant wait to try it out :)
12:46.00Rasdbtw i am a bit out of my mind often and want to test un ordinay things. Anyone tested a hybrid of moonkin and feral for pvp ? i am moonkin normaly and thought about taking thick hide and feral charge for pvp
12:46.05CIA-2203fin * r41641 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: Alias: updated list of reserved words; added count of total aliases to /listaliases
12:46.27CIA-2203rabbit * r41642 10simpleMinimap/ (4 files in 2 dirs): simpleMinimap: Cleanup.
12:46.51abbat_wRasd, feral charge in pvp it's very useful
12:46.57CIA-2203erwin * r41643 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-deDE.lua: Automaton: updated deDE gossip for shadow dust
12:47.08abbat_wAnd if druid know time for charge - it's extremly useful
12:48.09cryogenhmm dismbedding really did help with my load time
12:48.39CIA-2203fin * r41644 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (Alias.lua Editbox.lua): Prat: Alias + Editbox: updated metadata
12:49.01Rasdthink it would be fun to stand in moonkin with earthwarden on and the thick hide talent and see rogues try nuke me. They already have some troubles :D
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12:49.23abbat_w=)))
12:49.51HealthFin: Stop pestering the addonds with your seed
12:49.54Rasdcheck Xaktsaroth on dentarg if you wanna see me
12:50.11FinHealth: just the addons?
12:50.20abbat_wuh, i'm play at warsong
12:50.28abbat_wit's our 'russian' server
12:51.02MorghushyperChipmunk: BulkMail2 is so wonderful :D
12:51.05HealthHow interesting
12:51.11hyperChipmunk>8D
12:51.18hyperChipmunkah, the infamous Soviet Warsong
12:51.53MorghusSeriously, I spent 5 seconds doing what I usually spend up to 6 minutes doing >.>
12:52.01Morghus\o/ *hugs hyperChipmunk*
12:52.02abbat_w=)
12:52.04hyperChipmunkMorghus: that's great!
12:52.13hyperChipmunki'm glad it's getting some use
12:52.23abbat_wwhy infamous? :)
12:53.11Mikkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2
12:53.17abbat_wi'm postal user
12:53.20hyperChipmunkone of wcradio's hosts used to make some commentary about it
12:53.28Morghusabbat_w: It can replace postal :)
12:53.29Finsimplemail rocks
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12:53.36abbat_wjust need to send mail over my twinks
12:53.40hyperChipmunkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2
12:53.44Fin/sm get -a rules
12:53.53Fin(thanks Mikk & hyper)
12:53.53hyperChipmunkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2Inbox
12:54.12IcerothRasd, problem with feral charge is blizzard.
12:54.18Iceroththey fucked up Furor some time ago
12:54.23Rasdrealy ?
12:54.23Icerothnow it lags, badly
12:54.25MorghusBulkMail2Inbox is so awesome. I ditched Postal, sorry Grennon :D
12:54.41Icerothyou go bear, you sit there and wait for furor to activate to get enough rage to charge
12:54.45hyperChipmunkMorghus: so it did what you were asking last night?
12:54.45Finthe simplemail author even put in a command to "kick" it if it hangs for some reason - /sm kick - which is totally awesome
12:54.49Punkie`I might have to give BulkMail2 a whirl, I still use CT_Mailmod :)
12:54.59Mikkhuhu ctmailmod
12:54.59MorghushyperChipmunk: Yes, and more <3
12:55.03MikkAt least go Postal
12:55.06Finpraise like that makes me curious as well
12:55.10Icerothit _really_ sucks, there's very little chance to interrupt 1.5s heals
12:55.11MikkIt does what CT_MailMod does
12:55.14Iceroth<PROTECTED>
12:55.17MorghusPunkie`: I've been testing BulkMail2 and Inbox... it's amazing :)
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12:55.36Punkie`I hope they are efficient!
12:55.38MorghusMikk: I used to use Postal, but BulkMail's a lot more feature-rich
12:55.49MikkYeah, all depends on what you want ofc
12:55.56Punkie`Nice :)
12:56.02FinI tried BulkMail once before and it was horribly buggy for me, looks like it's nice and tidied up now though
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12:56.07MikkBut if you're using ctmailmod there's no reason to not switch to postal
12:56.10MorghusYeah. Postal's basic, but for mass-mailers like me, BulkMail is awesomesaucemail :D
12:56.32FinPostal was a bit buggy too, last time I tried it
12:56.40Mikk?
12:56.43Daemonaguess i just killed my postal @ hyperChipmunk ;)
12:56.44MikkWorks wonderfully for me
12:56.46abbat_whmm.. never see any bugs in postal
12:56.48MorghusNot afaik Fin.
12:56.54hyperChipmunkFin: I've put a TON of work into it in the last few weeks
12:56.57Finit was a while ago - I got the impression development had stopped as well?
12:56.58MorghusAnd I used it hourly for the last 5 weeks :P
12:57.02abbat_wswitch to postal after gmail was removed ;)
12:57.13MikkFin: Yeah it basically has. But it does what it advertises.
12:57.22Finmust've been my setup then
12:57.36abbat_wLast mod which i replace was SCT
12:57.37MikkPostal + SendToAlts bugs horribly I know
12:57.44abbat_wI replace it with MSBT
12:57.44MikkThe "To:" window gets fubard half the time
12:57.45MorghusGrennon did some maintenance a week or two back
12:57.56Fincertain addons seem to trip errors quite regularly, but most of them aren't addon-breaking
12:58.07FinI have SendSelf installed
12:58.21abbat_wBtw, maybe someone know, why msbt not in wowace?
12:58.23Finsounds similar
12:58.44Mikkabbat_w: Mostly because Mikord likes his own SVN
12:58.45MorghushyperChipmunk: Dude, I can't thank you enough. so much time and irritation saved <3
12:58.54abbat_wergh...
12:59.02Kirkburn|sleepPlus too many Mik(k)s spoils the broth
12:59.04hyperChipmunkabbat_w: because it's not an ace mod, and the author has never been part of the ace community
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12:59.24abbat_wnot ace mod?
12:59.39hyperChipmunknot afaik
12:59.53CIA-2203rabbit * r41645 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth3.lua locals.lua): MobHealth3: Indentation changes, minor cleanups.
12:59.58hyperChipmunkit's just a good mod that does the job better than any others
13:00.00FinhyperChipmunk: question for you...
13:00.09abbat_wah, ok then
13:00.10hyperChipmunkFin: answer is false
13:00.13vrakmsbt?
13:00.13MorghusAnyone have a quick link to MSBT?
13:00.14FinhyperChipmunk: if you send a mail to an alt, it gets tracked, right?
13:00.19hyperChipmunktracked?
13:00.23abbat_wI miss only one feature from sct
13:00.24Kirkburn|sleepI hear Google has a link
13:00.27hyperChipmunk~MSBT
13:00.34purlmsbt is, like, Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html
13:00.34abbat_wAnimation...
13:00.38FinhyperChipmunk: as in, does it report when it's arrived at my alt's mailbox?
13:00.46MorghusThanks hyperChipmunk.
13:00.47Kirkburn|sleep"Missionary Servants of the Most Blessed Trinity"
13:00.52hyperChipmunkFin: oh, that's a good idea
13:01.06FinhyperChipmunk: see Postman's tracking thingy, /postman track
13:01.07MikkWorks wonderfully as is
13:01.26Fintale is a wonderful programmer, he did Postman in what seemed like 2 days
13:01.37Finalso he's famous
13:01.47Finthat has nothing to do with anything except him being famous
13:01.51Finanyway
13:01.55Mikkbillg is famous too
13:02.08Finyeah but tale's internet famous
13:02.09MorghusFamous, how? =P
13:02.32Finhe was one of the people heavily involved in usenet way back
13:02.33MorghusMSBT, how is it different from SCT?
13:02.48hyperChipmunkit's better
13:02.50hyperChipmunk=)
13:02.52Finas I remember, he quit, and there was loads of discussion about it
13:02.54Punkie`hyperChipmunk: "Designates this character as a Sink"
13:03.02Punkie`what is a sink character? :p
13:03.09DaemonahyperChipmunk i use to send my cloth to a mule, is there a way to tell Bulkmail to only mail full stacks, as i keep started stacks for bandage crafting if needed ;)
13:03.14hyperChipmunkdoesn't autoqueue
13:03.18MorghusYeah, but water's better than soda, but for different reasons. I want to know :P
13:03.18abbat_wMorghus, you can define as many 'scroll areas' as you need. And put into these areas events
13:03.21FinhyperChipmunk: if you implement tracking of sending mails to alts, there's one feature I'd like that no other addon I've seen does
13:03.30hyperChipmunkgood for your AH mules
13:03.42hyperChipmunksince the rulesets are realm-wide
13:03.43FinhyperChipmunk: it's basically, the ability to show more than 50 items in your mailbox if you know you've sent a certain item to an alt
13:03.49Finand the queue doesn't show it
13:04.02Finbecause I regularly send way over 50 things to an alt before checking the queue
13:04.04hyperChipmunkFin: there's no way to access them
13:04.05MorghusYou won't be able to retrieve it though
13:04.17MorghusLimitation in the mail-system afaik.
13:04.20FinI know, I know
13:04.29Finbut *I* sent it to my alt, so I know it must be there
13:04.30MikkYeah but you could certainly list them if you know they're there
13:04.42hyperChipmunkyea, but there'd be interface inconsistency
13:04.43MorghusThat would be icing on the mail-tracker.
13:04.49hyperChipmunksince you can't DO anything with them
13:04.54Finit would just be useful to be able to see a) how big the queue is (I know I'm the only one apart from spammers sending mail to this character) and b) what's in the queue
13:05.08HealthHow interesting
13:05.10Finto see if, say, I've sent myself 100 stacks of runecloth yet
13:05.16hyperChipmunki could make disabled lines though
13:05.19Finor netherweave or whatever
13:05.41hyperChipmunkI think that's feasible, but you'd be reliant on your SVs
13:05.49Finright now I want to change professions to tailoring, but not until I have enough shit to get to 375 all at once
13:05.55WixiAnyone able to fathom a guess as to why the textures aren't changing in my ui when i change them?
13:05.58Finno problem
13:05.59CIA-2203rabbit * r41646 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFu.lua: FuBar_BagFu: Minor cleanups.
13:06.00RasdSo finaly done with new setup of ui. Thanks everyone in here for the help will be nice to do maggy and ssc and still see how the instances looks like when having all groups on screen :P
13:06.09Fingrats Rasd
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13:06.45Finalso
13:06.57Finit would be useful to see when the expiration date of stuff I know I've sent
13:07.11Finbecause, well, I think it's going to take me more than a month to get all the netherweave I need
13:07.11MikkIdd
13:07.15MorghushyperChipmunk: Would it be possible to add a small "You have picked up XXXXX gold", and "You have sent XXXX gold"?
13:07.24hyperChipmunkDaemona: the only way I could see to fit it into the model is to make it a character setting, unfortunately, and it'd have to apply to everything; what I normally do is just manually remove the stuff I don't want to send this time.  You can alt-click them off the list.
13:07.25Finso I'd like to know that I have to log on to the tailoring alt before stuff starts getting sent back
13:07.41FinMorghus: AccountantFu does that
13:08.00MikkFin: CharacterInfoStorage + MailInfo does that for you.. spams warnings n stuff when stuff is about to expire
13:08.01hyperChipmunkMorghus: you can see how much gold is in your inbox at the top
13:08.05MorghusFin: I already use AuditorFu :P
13:08.37FinMikk: I have CharacterInfoStorage installed, I'll see about MailInfo
13:09.12Finmuch as I would like to keep Postman (I personally think it's just brilliant coding - never once seen any bugs), I do want extra stuff
13:09.23Finmy greed for features is unhealthy
13:09.36hyperChipmunkI'm not brilliant? D8<
13:09.41MorghusYou are
13:09.55MorghusI worship your mod for it's time-saving abilities
13:10.03Finnot yet, for me, but BM2's installed now
13:10.22Morghus*addon
13:10.45IcerothhyperChipmunk, is there some easy way to discard battleground tokens from my inbox with bm2?
13:10.53hyperChipmunkfunny thing about feature-greed; I try so hard to keep features out of BM, but somehow they keep finding their way in >8P
13:11.03hyperChipmunkIceroth: enable the option to alt-delete mails
13:11.03MorghushyperChipmunk: \o/
13:11.18hyperChipmunkthen hold down the alt button and click 'em
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13:11.32Icerothoi, neat
13:11.36hyperChipmunkyou can sort BM2I's table by sender so they'll all be listed together, too
13:11.39MorghusHmm... does MSBT have SCT Damage replacement?
13:11.40Josh_Borkeguten morgen alles
13:11.48Josh_BorkeMorghus: yes
13:11.48hyperChipmunkMorghus: it does both
13:11.58MorghusSweetness. Will be testing it out then
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13:12.26hyperChipmunksctd was written in response to that, actually, I think
13:12.48Finmornin Josh_Borke
13:13.05MorghusHeya Josh_Borke
13:13.05Icerothoh, when i did delete my AB token from mail, the mailbox icon stayed in my minimap, had to revisit the mailbox to get rid of it - can that be fixed?
13:13.09hyperChipmunkPunkie`: you get what I meant by a sink character?
13:13.19Josh_BorkeIceroth: blizzard bug
13:13.25MorghusBlizz bug
13:13.31Rasdhm i tested to assign MT with oRA2 when i mark someone of the MT i get 3 healthbars of the tank..
13:13.32MorghusJosh_Borke is too fast :(
13:14.01hyperChipmunkIceroth: I can hack it to do so, but it really ought to be fixed for real
13:14.02Icerothkk, have had similar behavious with other mail addons as well, had to ask :)
13:14.16FinIceroth: blizzard bug
13:14.24MorghusHuh? Violation just told me
13:14.25MorghusMessage: [string "[Button:1]Violation:OpenWindows()"] line 1:
13:14.25Morghus<PROTECTED>
13:14.47Icerothhey guys i heard there's this blizzard bug with mailboxes, any workaround?
13:14.48Daemonahrmm hyperChipmunk how to i add "non-soulbound green/blue items" ? ;)
13:14.49hyperChipmunkif I make a hack and it gets fixed, then it might cause some problems
13:14.54Daemonai got a char for disenchanting ;)
13:15.02MorghusAh, wait, nvm that.
13:15.15hyperChipmunkDaemona: soulbound items aren't mailable; they won't be added
13:15.32hyperChipmunkBM takes care of that part already
13:15.56hyperChipmunkjust add Armor and Weapon item categories, and you'll only get the nonsoulbound ones
13:15.56FinI bet "/sm kick" would fix it
13:15.59Daemonaaah k, so i can do a quality filter or something?
13:16.10Daemonak
13:16.12Finif it were a graphical addon :P
13:16.14hyperChipmunkno, but it's pretty trivial
13:16.33hyperChipmunkjust sell greys before you hit the mailbox
13:16.35hyperChipmunk>8P
13:17.10vrakbaggins has a filter setting for whether items are soulbound or not, makes it easy to dump DE/AH material to the right chars
13:17.24hyperChipmunkthe rulesets are designed to be simple; if quality filters were implemented, they'd apply to the entire list
13:17.47hyperChipmunkvrak: BM makes it even easier =)
13:17.50Daemonajust assumed you had some simple and/or/not logic implemented :)
13:17.55hyperChipmunkopen mail, click send
13:17.59omega_hyperChipmunk: would one end up mailing Blacksmith Hammer and Mining pick around? :p
13:18.05hyperChipmunkDaemona: nope, just Include/Exclude
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13:18.11MorghusRight, so how do I do a test of the MSBT like there is in SCT?
13:18.15Daemonai got BM 2 minutes and already cant remember how i could have lived without it so long :D
13:18.18vrakhyperChipmunk: perhaps, i'm gonna try it out today
13:18.23FinMorghus: configure scroll areas
13:18.28FinMorghus: there's a testy thing there
13:18.36MorghusThanks Fin
13:18.39hyperChipmunkomega_: I put those on my global exclude list
13:18.44hyperChipmunkthere's a pt set for trade tools
13:18.57omega_ahh, right
13:19.10Morghusomega_: You can just exclude that manually as you go
13:19.14hyperChipmunkglobal exclude list is basically "i want to keep these items on this character, regardless of any rules"
13:19.27omega_right, cool
13:20.05omega_I dislike the whole "black-border-skinner" look, so I never looked to long at BM2 :)
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13:20.18hyperChipmunkomega_: see http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2
13:20.23hyperChipmunkyou can see that's exactly what I've done
13:20.33hyperChipmunksame for herbs and nightmare seed
13:20.46hyperChipmunkI send any herbs i get to my girlfriend, and she sends me nightmare seeds
13:21.11omega_hyperChipmunk: yeah, the features look great
13:21.12hyperChipmunkthey're in the same category, so I don't want to just send them back
13:21.21Fin[15:25:42] <@hyperChipmunk> I send any herbs i get to my girlfriend, and she sends me nightmare seeds
13:21.23hyperChipmunkso I stuck that in my global exclude
13:21.29Finme too! and my gf doesn't even play
13:21.30hyperChipmunkFin: >8P
13:21.30omega_but the graphics don't match my UI :)
13:21.34MorghusI feel stupid for not grabbing BulkMail2 when I first saw it, which is a while ago :P
13:21.46hyperChipmunkomega_: it's just a tablet
13:21.51hyperChipmunkthat's Skinner
13:21.59hyperChipmunkyours won't look like that
13:22.13hyperChipmunkit'll look like any other tablets
13:22.29[Ammo]hyperChipmunk: thanks for fixing the bug in bulkmail2 that kept the last sent item visible and erroring
13:22.32[Ammo];)
13:22.43hyperChipmunk[Ammo]: I haven't!
13:22.49hyperChipmunkit happens some of the time =P
13:22.49[Ammo]wtf
13:22.51[Ammo]ah
13:22.51[Ammo]meh
13:22.52[Ammo]fix it!
13:23.06hyperChipmunkI haven't had it happen in the last few days
13:23.30hyperChipmunkand I want to inspect the sendqueue table to see why it thinks it's still there
13:23.33omega_well, it showed up  with like that here, and I dont use or eve have skinner isntalled
13:23.57omega_but I'll try it again I guess :)
13:24.05omega_cause the features are compelling
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13:28.55Daemonao.O PT3 doesnt know Arcane Dust? so i guess i have to go Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession.Enchanting ?
13:30.02MikkUm.. does PT3 know about specific reags at all?
13:30.05MikkPT is all about sets, no?
13:30.05hyperChipmunkDaemona: pt3browser is a great help when making your lists, I've found
13:30.21Daemonai used pt3 Browser and searched for "Arcane Dust" ;)
13:30.27Daemonait didnt find it
13:30.36hyperChipmunkI dunno how pt3b's search works
13:30.42hyperChipmunkit's never found anything for me =P
13:33.35hyperChipmunkpt3 ought to include an autogenerated html doc for set browsing
13:34.23hyperChipmunkI'd use that over pt3b any day
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13:36.50KirkburnI've lost my quest watch frame!
13:37.10hyperChipmunksux to be ye
13:37.19KirkburnHow can I reset it?
13:37.24Kirkburn(I use simpleMinimap)
13:37.38[Ammo]delete WTF and interface folders and restart WoW
13:37.45[Ammo]*gg*
13:37.57trhammo: i bet they even tell that to people reporting http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/iz-stuk.jpg
13:37.59Kirkburn>_>
13:38.24[Ammo]it got cleaned up
13:38.41KirkburnAnd moved the frame, apparently :P
13:39.31[Ammo]probably
13:39.34[Ammo]it's in the movers module
13:39.36hyperChipmunksounds more like Kirkburn got cleaned OUT
13:39.54[Ammo]should be able to move it back
13:39.55[Ammo]dunno
13:39.57KirkburnCan't reset just the movers module ><
13:40.08[Ammo]I don't even know why that module is even in a minimap addon
13:40.12[Ammo]but that's just me
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13:40.23KirkburnAnchored to it, I think
13:40.30trhKirkburn: if you'd know the framename you could do /Script framename:ClearAllPoints(); framename:SetPoint("CENTER"); =)
13:41.11KirkburnWait, it's called QuestWatchFrame, no?
13:41.11Fin[Ammo]: er, yeah, I never understood that either!
13:41.16Finnow you come to mention it
13:41.18trhKirkburn: probably
13:41.22Kirkburnbecause that frame is on my screen
13:41.23trhKirkburn: just try it =)
13:41.39KirkburnHowever, I can't drag it around
13:41.44Fintrh: that resets any frame?
13:41.50trhFin: basically yes
13:41.53FinKirkburn: MoveIt would help
13:41.58hyperChipmunk[Ammoo]: because that frame (and the world pvp objective progress bar) are parented to the MinimapCluster for some reason
13:42.05Fintrh: great, I'm saving that in my useful things list
13:42.27Fintrh: thanks
13:42.47Finyou can do /moveit move FrameName
13:42.51KirkburnK, the second part of the macro worked
13:42.57hyperChipmunk[Ammo]* >8P
13:43.01KirkburnBut now it's gone again ...
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13:43.51KirkburnWhatever cleanup SimpleMinimap had, it's messed up my setup
13:44.03trhit cleaned up your questwatchframe :P
13:44.12hyperChipmunkcleaned OUT!
13:44.20trhKirkburn: maybe it anchors the questwatchframe to another frame
13:44.31trhKirkburn: so you move the questwatchframe to the center of that frame
13:44.34KirkburnDone a reset, shall set it up again and see
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13:44.48Finsounds more like a messup than a cleanup
13:45.01trhFin: they do only come together :)
13:45.08Finheh
13:45.16abbat_wAmmo, btw, my friend ask me for warlock macro. Maybe you know, he want to use one macro for cast amplify magic and curse of agony. If amplify on cooldown macro should use only coa w/o amplify. I told him about /castsequense reset=30 amplify magic, curse of agony.
13:45.18hyperChipmunkKirkburn: I believe I've heard similar complaints over the last couple days
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13:45.25hyperChipmunkso it isn't just you
13:45.27abbat_wBut he told what after first use macro on 30 sec cd
13:45.50KirkburnAha
13:46.07KirkburnThe dragging bit for the QuestWatchFrame is not connected to the ACTUAL frame >_<
13:46.12trhabbat_w: yeah.. it seems that reset tiems longer than a few seconds bug sometimes
13:46.22[Ammo]abbat_w: that's not the correct way
13:46.28Kirkburni.e. the grey box stays where it was, but the text box moves
13:46.35abbat_wAmmo, what way is correct?
13:46.41steev64abbat_w: tell him to l2p
13:46.44KirkburnOnly the CaptureMover frame still works properly
13:46.46abbat_w;)
13:46.49[Ammo]./cast Amplify curse; /stopcasting; /cast Curse of Agony
13:47.18Trancerhmm the stopcasting can be somewhat annoying when you also have immolate in your castsequence
13:47.27trhsteev64: everyone does.. they are blizzards <3 class
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13:47.32[Ammo]that's why you don't use a castsequence
13:47.33Trancererrormonster + /cast Amp curse; /castsequence ... works though ;-)
13:47.36steev64trh: the only thing i ask
13:47.43steev64is let ME cast shit without looking at my target
13:47.46Trancer[Ammo]: yeah, but I prefer to have one big ass macro
13:47.46steev64i mean COME ON
13:47.47[Ammo]and you use errormonster indeed
13:47.47abbat_wThanks Ammo
13:47.51trhi still wonder what the patchnote with "fear breaks more often on direct damage" meant
13:47.52Kirkburnvhaarr, poke
13:47.58N|healmuthHey, does anybody know the command line for AnchorsAway?
13:47.59trhmaybe when a pyroblasts crits you for 7k
13:48.01Trancer[Ammo]: got one macro that just throws everything on
13:48.04N|healmuthcan'T seem to figure it out
13:48.04vhaarrKirkburn: counter-poke
13:48.15KirkburnProblems with simpleMinimap
13:48.18steev64fear breaks on tremor totem, kthx
13:48.19[Ammo]Trancer: I had one like that too, but then it turned out to be more efficient to manually micromanage dots
13:48.25vhaarrKirkburn: ><
13:48.27Kirkburn3 of the frame movers aren't working
13:48.28Trancercan you still use 'conditionals' in macros? Like.. If Curse of Doom is not on Cooldown.. cast CoD and not CoA
13:48.32vhaarrKirkburn: okay
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13:48.39[Ammo]Trancer: you can't afaik
13:48.40KirkburnThe grey boxes aren't connected to the actual frame
13:48.48Trancer[Ammo]: yeah, I typically use the spam macro on trash or when we move on a boss
13:48.56Trancerafter the initial landing it's micro management
13:49.02Trancer[Ammo]: pitty
13:49.39Kirkburnphone
13:49.39Trancerthink I'll drop imp CoA
13:49.39TrancerCoD is so much more efficient
13:49.39[Ammo]imp CoA is nice
13:49.44N|healmuthAnybody any idea how i can configure AnchorsAway? I can't seem to find the command to bring it up -.-
13:49.53Kirkburnvhaarr, a better way of putting it ... the draggable grey boxes aren't moving with the frame
13:49.58Trancerit's nice for longer than 12s living trash.. but it becomes rare nowadays :/
13:50.01[Ammo]CoD takes too long to land though
13:50.32Trancerhmm.. myeap
13:50.33KirkburnSo the text moves around, but the grey box doesn't - works for CaptureMover, but not QuestWatchFrame QuestTimerFrame or DurabilitFrame
13:50.42Trancerno idea what to spend my points on though
13:50.51Trancerimproved curse of weakness seems a joke and I dont need fel conc
13:50.58Trancer29/21/11 build btw
13:51.20N|healmuthDoes anyone here have any experience with AnchorsAway? :)
13:51.36steev64imp curse of weakness isn't needed since you just spam fear to keep em far enough away from hitting anyways
13:51.39moltarainanyone got url to the align addon? know i had one for a while ago but searching on it in google dosnt realy give sane ansver (to much junk).
13:51.39KirkburnWoah, as I move sM around, the grey boxes move all over the shop :P
13:52.07Trancersteev64: hehe :p
13:52.14KirkburnAnyway, vhaarr, if you are able to take a look, that'd be grand :) Also, the Blizz "North" pointer can be removed
13:52.22Trancersteev64: our tanks are fond of it sometimes
13:52.33steev64playing a warlock... those 3 initial dots, fear.... those three dots again... cd on fear up... fear
13:52.36abbat_wmoltarain, www.wowinterface.com
13:52.46abbat_wmoltarain, try search here
13:52.52moltarainok, thx
13:52.55steev64occasionally slap in a drain life to make it look like you are trying
13:53.02Trancersteev64: fear breaks with dots now though but yeah
13:53.08Trancerall the crying on the lock forum
13:53.09steev64hardly
13:53.12Trancer"fear breaks on dots omg omg omg"
13:53.16Trancerchance is like 10% or so
13:53.28Trancerit's silly, you can still just dot + fear
13:53.28steev64that 10% is more like 1%
13:53.38abbat_wmoltarain, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7231-Align.html
13:54.08moltarainfound it
13:54.30N|healmuthDoes anyone here have any experience with AnchorsAway? :)
13:54.38steev64i still drop tremor totem
13:54.55steev64though typically i just wait out the three dots and then earth shock as they attempt to cast fear
13:55.08steev64then its awesome watching them start jumping and running around
13:55.19steev64warlocks don't know what to do when they can't cast fear
13:55.27[Ammo]I rarely use fear
13:55.28Trancershammies are a pain
13:55.45Trancerif they get in range and drop earthbind and start chopping on you with that big bad ass whoopasss weapon of them it hurts :/
13:55.46steev64[Ammo]: you must instance/raid a lot
13:55.57[Ammo]yeah
13:55.59steev64pvp thats all they seem to know how to do
13:56.00[Ammo]wow pvp is a joke
13:56.08[Ammo]so I don't do pvp
13:56.12Trancerdon't like pvp on my lock
13:56.17N|healmuth[Ammo] do you happen to know the command for AnchorsAway to bring up configuration?
13:56.18Tranceras lock you need to spec for it
13:56.25Trancerwhich is boring
13:56.25[Ammo]no I don't N|healmuth
13:56.37N|healmuth8(
13:56.40[Ammo]and I thought anchorsaway was a lib
13:56.45[Ammo]so probably doesn't have config
13:56.53[Ammo]yeah it's a lib
13:56.56[Ammo]it doesn't have a config
13:57.15Trancerhmm ammo, is mjrider playing wow?
13:57.53[Ammo]nop
13:58.10Trancerhmm k, bummer, not many ircnet guys playing it
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13:58.14Trancerhalf of efnet is on turalyon, heh
13:58.25[Ammo]mjrider is not much of a gamer
13:58.39Trancerah, always thought he was :x
13:58.56trhis Cryect around?
13:59.31abbat_wmjrider ;)
13:59.32abbat_wahah
13:59.35abbat_wnice nickname
13:59.43Trancerhey look, another efnet dude ;-)
13:59.43abbat_wmarijuana rider i think?
13:59.45Tranceron moo even
13:59.55abbat_wyep, i'm from efnet ;)
14:01.48[Ammo]mjrider is my collegue, and trancer knows him etc..
14:02.43Trancerbecause the dutch intarweb world is a small world
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14:03.51[Ammo]well the people who actually do the interesting stuff on the dutch internet are limited :)
14:04.19Trancervery true
14:04.41[Ammo]lets just say the friendsclub that mjrider and me are members off have people (admins) from sara, xs4all, wikipedia etc
14:05.11Trancerthe admins of xs4all are my guildleaders :P
14:05.15[Ammo]rofl
14:05.22TrancerI oper on the xs4all ircds ;-)
14:05.24abbat_w=))))
14:05.50abbat_wmy friend, uvex, founder of irc.efnet.ru but he don't play wow
14:06.04vhaarrKirkburn: And you're sure this used to work?
14:06.12Trancer[Ammo]: so yeah, small world :)
14:06.14KirkburnYeah, pretty sure
14:06.23vhaarrunpossible!
14:06.40KirkburnThe grey frames showed in the right locations before I reset it
14:07.07Kirkburn(which means I must have been able to move them at some point)
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14:07.28Kirkburn:(
14:08.09KirkburnIt's not game-breaking, since I can still position stuff, just ... er, oddly
14:08.35vhaarroh, wait
14:09.14CIA-2203wobin * r41648 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuBar_FuXPFu: Removed the 'short name' code as it seems to cause more issues than it fixes...
14:09.57KirkburnNoticed an option missing from VolumeFu - no sound effects toggle in the tablet, but it's in the options list
14:10.00Kirkburnvhaarr, yarr?
14:10.29Kirkburn(oh, and lots of error in BugSack from sM too I just noticed ;)
14:10.32CIA-2203rabbit * r41649 10simpleMinimap/modules/movers.lua: simpleMinimap: movers: Bugfix.
14:10.35vhaarrorly
14:10.37Kirkburnwoot
14:10.45Kirkburnthanks!
14:10.51vhaarrthanks for the report
14:10.53KirkburnWhat happened?
14:10.58vhaarrsomeone set us up the bomb
14:11.11jmefor great justice!
14:11.27[Ammo]ooh rabbit rape
14:11.28Boubouillehmmmmmm, interesting
14:11.31Boubouillehttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/24/warglaive-of-azzinoth-dropped/
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14:11.36Boubouilleit seems that my site is now named mmo-gaming :(
14:11.42[Ammo]Boubouille: haha
14:11.53Boubouillebah, the domain isn't available
14:12.15jmeBoubouille: you run mmo-champion?
14:12.22vhaarr"and sells for (apparently) 24.3g" haha
14:12.26vhaarrjme: he just pretends to
14:12.30jmeah ;)
14:12.42BoubouilleI'm french, I can't do anything
14:12.42Boubouillesorry.
14:12.45vhaarrsomewhere, in some dark cellar, there's a BOFH that *really* runs it
14:12.46jmetrue
14:12.46abbat_wæ)
14:13.01abbat_wje parles au francaise. un peut :)
14:13.06jmevhaarr: or if you're a GM, you claim there's a basement of gnomes that do the real work. *shrug*
14:13.10Boubouillemoi aussi je parle francais !
14:13.14KirkburnBoubouille, eliah (the author) was on #wowwiki 2 days ago, he might return, not sure
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14:13.30jmevhaarr: i was about to be like.. dude, i'm horde, i eat gnomes for breakfast ;)
14:13.32Boubouilleoh, wowinsider guys roaming on wowwiki chan ? great
14:13.43KirkburnHe wrote the Wowhead acquisition article
14:13.55vhaarr^^
14:13.56Mikkwowhead? aquisition?
14:13.58Mikkwha?
14:14.07BoubouilleMikk : welcome in 2007
14:14.08KirkburnMikk is behind the times :P
14:14.18[Ammo]Mikk get back to coding those profiles
14:14.21Trancernot much mikk
14:14.25Trancerthey sold to ZAM
14:14.28KirkburnAffinity Media bought Wowhead
14:14.31Trancerto avoid the goldseller junk or so
14:14.37Trancerread: to make $$$$
14:14.39BoubouilleMikk : www.wowhead.com actually
14:14.50Boubouillehttp://www.wowhead.com/?wowhead-exciting-news
14:14.51MikkZAM .. hmm.. that's the same as wowinterface no
14:14.58Tranceryeah
14:14.58Boubouilleyeah, and thottbot, and allakhazam
14:15.01Boubouilleand the rest of the world, basically
14:15.20KirkburnBut NOT IGE
14:15.21Boubouilleas we speak, Affinity Media is trying to buy mmo-champion for 5 millions $
14:15.53abbat_whuh
14:16.00abbat_wnot bad, $5 mln
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14:17.13Ordogzomg, a project that anybody starting at a 16 y. o. kid with some coding skills and an idea could create, sold for 5 million? bulderdash
14:17.15Matrix110Never Boubouille :P
14:17.25Matrix110traffic rank is too low
14:17.40Boubouillealexa rank means nothing tbh
14:17.50BoubouilleI could easily boost my alexa rank to stupidly high levels
14:18.13Matrix110well then they go for other statistic tools
14:18.40sbuhmm
14:18.49Matrix110google crap is quite often used aswell
14:18.50sbuso google buys affinity media then?
14:20.28N|healmuthwhy wouldnt you sell MMO-Champion for 5mil
14:20.39Matrix110Because he didnt get that offer:P
14:20.58Boubouillebecause MMO-Champion is priceless.
14:21.02N|healmuthsure
14:21.14N|healmuthtell your lies elsewhere tbh
14:21.41N|healmuthu'd be stupid not to sell for that price
14:22.18Matrix110and sbu i doubt that the owners of Affinity Media(former IGE bosses) would sell it that fast
14:22.37CIA-2203roartindon * r41650 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
14:22.37CIA-22Assessment
14:22.37CIA-22- Added percentages to a number of reports
14:22.37CIA-22- Added maximumAmount to damage dealt/taken trees, and tags to access it
14:22.37CIA-22- Added Highest Hits display set
14:22.39Matrix110The market has immense potential
14:22.42Boubouillethey would be stupid to buy for that price N|healmuth
14:22.43Boubouille:p
14:22.50N|healmuthits like
14:22.59N|healmuthgive me 5million for Ablogofnointerest.com
14:23.08Boubouilleoh, you're selling Nihilum website ?
14:23.23Matrix110its already sold Boubouille :P
14:23.29Ordogto say that affinity media has "nothing do to with RMT stuff" is ... well they got real money for selling that company thats all into that ^^
14:23.31N|healmuthits sold already
14:23.32Boubouilleyeah, multiple times :p
14:23.51Boubouilleanyway, time to post a news
14:24.08N|healmuthseriously you're a very strange person
14:24.22Chompersvhaarr is back yay
14:24.42BoubouilleN|healmuth : someone said I was "anti conformist" once
14:25.08Boubouillebasically, I means that I almost look smart even if I spend my time saying stupid things
14:25.10Boubouillethat's nice
14:25.14N|healmuthdoenst have anything to do with that
14:25.17N|healmuthbut okey
14:25.25Boubouillesee, that's the whole point !
14:25.26N|healmuthif you indeed received an offer over 5m
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14:25.33N|healmuthyou're an idiot for not selling
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14:25.38Boubouille...
14:25.43Boubouille:/
14:25.57steev64ckknight: also, one other minor thing - the import window for PitBull doesn't scroll
14:26.27uszDont know if anyone noticed bug in AceComm related to fragmentation of big messages. Seems like in AceComm-2.0.lua around line 1434 number of fragments is calculateed wrong as messageLen returned by SerializeAndEncode is smaller than table_concat(sb):len() so last fragment useally is longer than allowed 254 characters for big messages
14:26.38abbat_wHmm.. don't think so
14:26.55abbat_wPossible after some time mmo-champion can cost more then 5 mln
14:27.00N|healmuthnobody in their right mind would buy WoWhead for just 1m and pay 5m for a - in comparison - miniature site with a 100th of wowhead visitors
14:27.30BoubouilleN|healmuth : wait, I've got something for you
14:27.53Boubouillehttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony
14:28.07abbat_wall my friends prefer mmo-champion. good site with understanding design and fresh news
14:28.07N|healmuthi cant read
14:28.07N|healmuthjust playing wow all day
14:28.29Boubouille"no talk, gold plz" ? :(
14:28.36Matrix110abbat_w it will still never get a major page as its only has a really small group of intrest
14:28.39N|healmuthepixx
14:29.16abbat_wMaybe. But visitors of wowhead don't look at banners. all what they need it's coords for quest ;)
14:29.21FtH|Daemonai heard all epixx are belong to awake ^^
14:29.24Matrix110Doesnt matter
14:29.27Matrix110thats the same for all pages
14:29.46FtH|Daemonabut we are derailing, hyperChipmunk double-thumbs-up on Bulkmail2 :)
14:29.57FtH|Daemonaset up some basic rules and love it :)
14:30.16N|healmuthBoubouille anyway i'd be happy for you if you can sell your site
14:30.20Matrix110But the group of people visiting wowhead and not having a popup blocker/noscript and taking notice of the Ads and clicking them is thousands of times bigger
14:30.21N|healmuthalways nice to see wow grow
14:30.35BoubouilleI can't really sell the site, it's worth nothing
14:30.46HealthN|healmuth: Nice to see other things to grow too!
14:30.46Boubouillethe only thing worth money in MMO-Champion is the webmaster
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14:31.12Matrix110Boubouille you can get minor fees for you address because some domain grabbers would buy em:P
14:31.26N|healmuthBoubouille thats coz u failed at building a community so far
14:31.29abbat_wyou should
14:31.32N|healmuthmaybe u dont want to build one
14:31.34N|healmuthi dunno
14:31.43Boubouillei'm not really interested in building one
14:31.50Boubouillecommunity are the same people visiting your site again and again
14:31.59Boubouillepeople willing to buy a site want new people, not the same one every day
14:32.11abbat_wi don't sure
14:32.19N|healmuthBoubouille thats crap tbh
14:32.20abbat_wlook at livejournal and same blogs
14:32.33N|healmuthnot at all true
14:32.35abbat_wsame people visit blogs day to day
14:32.36moltarainwould be nice with an option to put all addons in user profile and copy default config (instead of do it manually for all addons)
14:32.42Boubouillethey're stupidly big sites abbat_w
14:32.55Boubouillebut on a medium sized site, it's pointless
14:34.26N|healmuthBoubouille btw
14:34.36N|healmuthyou still havent added Muqqs head on illidan :p
14:35.12Boubouilleprobably because it's not on wowhead, or because I was lazy
14:35.12xyu`grr i think there's an addon causing me to disconnect randomly.  does this happen for anyone else?   no lag just disconnects
14:35.18xyu`to login
14:35.32steev64xyu`: happens to me at times
14:35.51Boubouillexyu` : anything trying to link items I'd say
14:36.20xyu`if something is, it's doing it in the background
14:36.37BoubouilleSometimes, it's better from the back
14:36.42xyu`i have a sneaking suspicion if that's the case it is "Manufacturer"
14:38.52abbat_wif someone link an item which doesn't exist on you server or item with wrong enchant you can be disconnected from server
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14:39.13FtH|Daemonawowhead is lazy... do they only do weekly updates lately?
14:39.37abbat_wlooks like
14:41.10Tornhoofany wau developer online?
14:41.19Matrix110#wau
14:41.27durcynFtH|Daemona: they have a list of recent items and when they were added, it's daily-ish
14:41.32KirkburnHow did you get weekly updated from it being early on the 25th and the last udated on 19th, 20th
14:41.57KirkburnPerhaps the webmasters have other things they're busy with over the past few days?
14:42.17Kirkburn(http://www.wowhead.com/?latest=additions)
14:42.19Boubouillelike bathing in 1 million dollars.
14:42.20Tornhoofwell maybe they sync their updates with the armory?
14:42.26BoubouilleTornhoof : nah
14:42.30Matrix110And they can slack now as they got their money and get their montly wage:P
14:42.36Boubouillethe big updates are synced with my itemcache.wdb files most of the time
14:42.37Boubouille:p
14:42.42Tornhoofon the other hand the us armory is pretty much up to date by now
14:42.53KirkburnI can tell you, Wowhead is definately being worked on
14:43.08KirkburnYou might not be seeing anything atm, but it's being done, I assure you
14:43.15BoubouilleKirkburn got a share of the million.
14:43.27KirkburnI wish!
14:43.31Matrix110I didnt say it wasnt worked on but the same thing was with Allakhazam which is basically bullshit now compared to pre "working on"
14:43.41FtH|Daemonabeing worked on would mean for me: a populated loot table with confirmed lots for illidan e.g.
14:43.44KirkburnWha?
14:43.53KirkburnMatrix110, the site has only /just/ been bought
14:44.13Tornhoofatleast my updater pulled some id 33xxxer items from the armory yesterday
14:44.17Matrix110Allakhazam was bought when like 1year ago orso? It just got worse all the time
14:44.18KirkburnAnd anyway, how can you compare Wowhead to Alla? Wowhead isn't broken ...
14:44.38Tornhoofi guess wowhead will be as broken in a year ;)
14:44.47abbat_wallakhazam... home of trojan horses...
14:45.03KirkburnWhy don't you compare it to Thott instead
14:45.22Matrix110Didnt use Thottbot for almost 2 years now:P
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14:45.43abbat_wyou replace thott with wowhead, right?
14:45.46Matrix110Because well i dont like a page flooded with pServer items
14:45.49trhi really hope wowhead wont get overloaded like alla/thott... just do it like google.. plain and simple :)
14:45.56Kinkx[2007/06/25 16:39:10-1290-x1562]: ArenaMaster-1.0\Core.lua:464: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)  >_<
14:45.56Matrix110I replaced Allakhazam with wowhead
14:46.09trhCryect around?
14:46.18Matrix110Allakhazam got slower/uglier/banner infected since they got bought:P
14:46.22abbat_wMatrix110, so, armory with loot tables coming ;)
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14:46.40trhthe only feature i miss with wowhead is displaying of localized names for items
14:46.59Kirkburntrh, suggest it to them
14:47.00trhso if i need a translated itemname i need to go to allakhazam
14:47.19Matrix110Just ignore ppl with localized clients and tell them to use a proper enGB/enUS client...
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14:47.25Matrix110the translations are utter crap anyway
14:47.27KirkburnThey definately welcome suggestions :)
14:47.38trhMatrix110: i always do. but they don't listen to me :(
14:47.50abbat_w;)
14:48.09abbat_wLast time i read 'blessing of kings' in russian ;)
14:48.19abbat_wThat make me laugh about 5 min
14:48.44Matrix110There isnt a russian client or?
14:48.46Matrix110or is there?
14:48.53abbat_wit's fun translate
14:49.08abbat_wwe havn't official russian client
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14:49.33trhKirkburn: done.. reported it as a bug ;) they don't have a nice suggestions button =)
14:49.41Matrix110german translation is just retarted, they shoulve just translated Quest texts and everyone wouldve been happy
14:50.01Matrix110but translation EVERYTHING including skillnames/zone names/city names/itemnames is just stupid
14:50.01abbat_wbut anyway terms like 'BoK', 'BoF' in english sounds like normal terms. In russian this terms sounds like.. like full crap
14:50.09Necrathexgermans don't learn english?
14:50.10trhMatrix110: ah well.. most germans don't like anything english.. in fact most are horrible at english :)
14:50.23trhMatrix110: oh.. you're one too ;)
14:50.25Matrix110We learn english in school Necrathex
14:50.27winkillerMatrix110: what do you dare to have against Schlingendorntal? :D
14:50.47abbat_wIn fact most ppl horrible at english. Just 5-10 countries good but rest... ;)
14:51.05Matrix110Scandinavians do it right they just show US movies/series in english+subtitles and all kids learn english anyway because they cba to read subtitles
14:51.07abbat_wSchlingendorntal - what is it? Stormwind?
14:51.13OrdogUnterstadt ftw -.- NEVER used the german client, still got my beta install! ;P
14:51.20trhabbat_w: lol, no, it's stranglethorn valley
14:51.27RoartindonUnterstadt.. undercity?
14:51.28abbat_whahahah ;)
14:51.38Matrix110yes Roartindon
14:51.42winkillerEisenschmiede, Sturmwind :P
14:51.42trhabbat_w: stormwind is Sturmwind i guess
14:51.49winkillerit sucks a bit
14:51.51trheisenschmiede is the most retardet translation EVER
14:51.54trh-t+d
14:51.58winkillerI installed de_DE on my laptop just to have a laugh
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14:52.19Necrathexi'd like a dutch translation ^^
14:52.28Kirkburn"they don't have a nice suggestions button =)" <-- I know, I've told them before :P
14:52.42trhi installed it to test localization.. had to get 300mb of updates last time i started it.. using it very rarely
14:52.48Ordogwhere the english item names sound like BAM BOOM ZAPP! the german names sound like "meow, pfztt"
14:53.03trhOrdog: yeah.. and alot of the spelling fun gets lost :(
14:53.17abbat_wThis is because you like or has got into the habit with english names in wow ;)
14:53.40hyperChipmunkDaemona: great to hear =)
14:53.49sbuwinkiller: Donnerfels ftw :o
14:54.06winkilleroh, didn't know that one
14:54.10abbat_wbtw
14:54.23abbat_wwhat is it 'donnervetter' in german?
14:54.33Mikkswearword
14:54.45abbat_woops
14:54.47Matrix110it doesnt exist abbat_w :P
14:54.58Matrix110atleast written like that
14:55.00Mikkpotzblitz!
14:55.02hyperChipmunk~trans de en donnervetter
14:55.08Ordogits like "wow amazing" or "wtf"
14:55.23Ordogtry donnerwetter
14:55.37Mikkarschloch!
14:55.39trhbut the german localization team is often open to suggestions
14:55.49abbat_wlol
14:55.58trhthey translated Seaforium charge first to "Seeforium Ladung" or something
14:56.06abbat_wI think playing german wow like listen Rammstein
14:56.09trhwhich lost the spelling joke with C4
14:56.15jmehttp://karacry.ytmnd.com
14:56.18abbat_w'sie ist der helleste shtern won allen..." ;)
14:56.18winkillerouch
14:56.35winkillersame as most german translators. no sense at all for jokes
14:56.38trha user suggested they use "Zephyrium" which is basically the spelling of C4 in german
14:56.40trhand they changed it
14:56.54sbutrh: oh... its C4... haha - thats funny :o never thought of that %-)
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14:57.01hyperChipmunk...
14:57.06hyperChipmunksmoov
14:57.09sbu;o
14:57.09abbat_wZephyrium == c4? :)
14:57.28durcynno, he's saying "seaforim" "c4-ium"
14:57.29trhabbat_w: hehe it's seaforium in the english client :)
14:57.38abbat_wahahha ;))))
14:57.44abbat_wdamn!
14:57.48trhabbat_w: seaforium spoken in english = C4 =)
14:57.52abbat_wahahah ;)
14:57.56sbu*sigh*
14:57.58abbat_wNever think about it ;)
14:58.02trhoh lol... i wonder that even americans didn't got it ;)
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14:58.11kenlyric_problem with packages in wau?
14:58.17hyperChipmunkmade sense to me
14:58.20abbat_wi'm not american
14:58.23hyperChipmunkI thought it was hilarious
14:58.25durcyni never really thought about it, shrug
14:58.39abbat_wAnd i listen 'c4' only in american films
14:58.42trhthey got hundreds of jokes like that in the game :)
14:59.13abbat_wñ4 == seaforium ;)
14:59.14abbat_wheh
14:59.46abbat_wthis have sense ;)
14:59.58trhhttp://www.gamershell.com/faqs/253.txt =)
15:00.15trhlists alot of references to movies and stuff =)
15:00.25trhin the "E. Items" section =)
15:01.00Mikkomg @ karacry
15:01.01winkillerwowwiki also has some stuff
15:01.07Mikkdoes it stop? o.O
15:01.41Matrix110rofl
15:01.56Matrix110voice activation ftw
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15:03.44Matrix110Its 4mins 46sec Mikk
15:03.48Mikkomg
15:03.58Mikki gave up after 1minsomething
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15:04.40Matrix110he should have hte mic a abit more away
15:04.44Matrix110then it wouldbe more funny
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15:04.59Mikkcould go in and edit the sound i suppose
15:05.06Mikkit's hard to hear the parents
15:05.18Matrix110the mic has to be broken already
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15:06.30kenlyric_people with voice activation belong in the special hell.
15:06.35CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r98 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Without modulecore, the original OnTooltipCleared was being stored in a global by mistake. Whoops. This should fix the "money problem".
15:06.43trhin pvp voice activation = win
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15:06.56kenlyric_the special hell.
15:07.09Kalman|VOX vs. keybound Vent?
15:07.09Mikkvoice activation with a nice off button wins
15:07.32Matrix110rofl
15:07.34Kalman|Voice activation with a footpedal mute wins.
15:07.36Matrix110now dad steals the PC
15:07.40kenlyric_voice activation outside of combat.
15:07.54Matrix110roflmao
15:08.01Mikkhe goes on and talks?
15:10.31KirkburnLol, I couldn't bear listening to more than 30 seconds of it :/
15:10.49MikkYeah, I felt too ashamed for the poor sod :P
15:11.03KirkburnBut moooooooooom
15:11.17MikkCan't stand four year olds crying for candy
15:11.18CIA-2203rabbit * r41651 10simpleMinimap/modules/compass.lua: simpleMinimap: compass: Bugfix.
15:11.35[dRaCo]ah, great... just wanted to report that bug
15:11.40KirkburnI love that when he starts crying, he denies ... that he's crying
15:11.55Kirkburnvhaarr, was that for the north symbol?
15:11.58vhaarrno
15:12.07Kirkburnoh?
15:12.08[dRaCo]vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/66078 <-- that one?
15:12.16vhaarryes
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15:15.13cynyr_so kci no longer sujests prices based on the auction spy module?
15:15.42cynyr_s/sujest/sugests/
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15:20.05subsonicCan anybody make a tweak to nQuestLog?  I think it should display the total (n/25) quests at the top of the window but the developer got his hardware stolen and can't update :(
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15:23.55dspXsomeone can explain me, how can i set the options with Buffalo2? i dont know if it works
15:24.49Kirkburnsubsonic, ouch, who's the dev?
15:25.09subsonicKirkburn: I can look it up
15:25.13subsonicit's in the wiki
15:25.43subsonicI was very surprised when I found it, it puts monkey quest and quest-i-on to shame
15:25.55Kirkburnneuron
15:25.57subsonicneuron
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15:27.18dspXneed some help pls ^^
15:27.20subsonicI know a little about programming, I looked at the code briefly, but I can't even figure out at what point the text is being drawn
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15:30.11trhsubsonic: usually :SetText(
15:30.24subsonictrh, okay, I'll look for that
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15:33.21Shaminockknight: about fubarplugin.  i know it provides minimap support.   but assume a user does not use FuBar, how or why does fubarplugin not have an option to hide the minimap icon?  or if it does, i'm missing it
15:35.49stavmarDoes anyone think that making a mod to show you the number of gem colors you have on so that if you use a metagem you will know if it works or not? Does this mod already exist?
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15:37.39Shaminostavmar: not sure, but a metagem now highlights the requirements, if they are met
15:38.01trhso if you get someone to link you the metagem and you watch it you're fine
15:38.06stavmarwell if I want to add a different gem I am worried tha I might screw it up
15:38.13pb_ee1Could someone remind me how to have this black bar at the bottom: http://blackhandtales.de/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/wow-interface.jpg (the big one under the chat/bars/...)
15:39.04Shaminobut the addon sounds like an easy enough fubarplugin to make
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15:41.20Adirelleerm... gquitted after 19 month in the same guild
15:41.23pb_ee1Nobody knows? I'm pretty sure that it's an Ace'd AddOn
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15:42.22Punkie`try skinner
15:43.07AdirelleI'm wondering if I could use PT3Bar as a base to make a modular popup buttons addon
15:43.20jmethat black bar looks like a viewport addon, like aperture
15:43.29Adirelle(where pt3bar feature would become a module)
15:43.38Kalman|It's not a viewport, character is still centered to the screen, not to the rendering area.
15:43.42Kalman|Probably skinner.
15:43.44jmeah
15:43.48jmeso it is
15:43.56Kalman|Possibly eepanels or whatever that mod is?
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15:44.10pb_ee1Punkie`: Are you sure that it is Skinner? I am just interested in the black bar at the bottom, not the "style" of the AddOns
15:44.33Kalman|pb_ee1: Skinner does include functionality to create a bottomframe.
15:44.42pb_ee1Kalman|: Hummm thanks :p
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15:45.19CIA-2203nebelmond * r41652 10OptiTaunt/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Locale-esES.lua):
15:45.19CIA-22OptiTaunt:
15:45.19CIA-22- more minor localization fixes
15:45.27pb_ee1I've found the worse compilation of mods
15:45.31pb_ee1http://wowui.incgamers.com/ui.php?id=2502
15:46.09pb_ee1Ha has included Blizzard_* AddOns, and Ace2, but TitanBar instead of the FuBar
15:46.18vhaarrlol
15:46.25pb_ee1I'm not against using Titan, but if you have Ace2 installed, it's a bit stupid to use Titan :p
15:46.26vhaarrblizzard addons ftw
15:46.37Kalman|It's from April 2006.
15:46.48Kirkburnckknight, I think the About box needs a mid-width ... just checked out the ClearFont2 one, the okay and donate boxes overlap
15:46.57pb_ee1Kalman|: I know, but it's quite funny to see that ^_^
15:47.21KirkburnHey, that was last updated on my birthday :D
15:47.22Lywellyn*sigh* I can't seem to get either of my FuBar Reagent plugins to work properly ><
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15:47.36pb_ee1ckknight: Is it normal that when I click on the option button of PitBull, my computers lags for 5 seconds?
15:47.44pb_ee1got a 1.6 Ghz Pentium M
15:47.59pb_ee1computer* even
15:48.04KirkburnI only get about 1/4 of a second of lag
15:48.11Trancerpb_ee1: it's probly 'Depot'
15:48.15pb_ee1My computer is a bit crappy
15:48.20pb_ee1Trancer: Depot?
15:48.21Roartindonpb_ee1: That's because Pitbull is building its menus when you request them
15:48.37TrancerDepot   r36638  2007-06-24 11:04:43  a simple bottom bar (bom)
15:48.39pb_ee1Sure, but it does it every time, does it rebuild them each time?
15:48.45Roartindonpb_ee1: Yes
15:48.49pb_ee1Trancer: Aha, thanks a lot ;)
15:48.53Punkie`pb_ee1: Wow, that UI 'only' has 60MiB of addon usage
15:49.01pb_ee1Punkie`: Rofl
15:49.02trhpb_ee1: he also included ct_raidassist, raidtracker and rabossmods =)
15:49.04Punkie`I should upgrade!
15:49.21Trancertrh: note that guy being level 60 and in AQ as well :-)
15:49.23pb_ee1trh: That's not a problem, CT is a good alternative to Ace2 (even if I'm not using it)
15:49.29Trancertrh: so much has changed since TBC, heh
15:49.32pb_ee1I mean
15:49.40pb_ee1Ace2 raid AddOns obviously :P
15:49.47pb_ee1Not the whole thing ^_^
15:50.15subsonicWhat's the trick to reloading the UI/script?
15:50.16trhi wish though that WAU and files.wowace.com would support tagging of stable versions =)
15:50.25pb_ee1subsonic: /rl
15:50.33ashai|hcCT is a moose
15:50.37Trancerpb_ee1: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6019.0
15:50.37subsonicpb_thanks
15:50.42trhadditionally feeding and exporting lists with revisions from WAU would be nice
15:50.44subsonicer pb_ee1 thanks
15:50.54trhso a addon compilation would just be a file you'd have to feed into wau
15:50.54pb_ee1subsonic: np :p
15:51.00trhwith stable versions and stuff :)
15:51.17pb_ee1trh: You found a very cool idea :p
15:51.24pb_ee1Trancer: /bow
15:51.30Trancernp
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15:51.36Tranceravoid skinner, it's heavy
15:51.43Trancerespecially if your pc is shitty (like my laptop is)
15:52.08pb_ee1Exactly what I was thinking, thus I was still trying to find something else, but you did before I coul ;p
15:52.13pb_ee1could
15:52.55Kirkburnpb_ee1, the big black bar is eePanels
15:53.15pb_ee1Kirkburn: Depot seems to do the same thing as well
15:53.37pb_ee1wowace server seems to be under heavy load.
15:53.52KirkburnIndeed
15:54.52KirkburnKaelten|Away, server seems to be running slow
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15:55.28Kaelten|Away?
15:55.40KirkburnCan barely access wowace.com
15:56.54Kirkburnpb_ee1, I have no experience of Depot, but I use eePanels and it is v good :)
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15:57.35KirkburnIn fact, can't access wowace.com at all now
15:57.39Kaelten|Awayhrm load is only around 2
15:57.59pb_ee1Kirkburn: Sure, but i'm looking for something very simple and light in memory, I have already to much addons installed. i am not saying eepanels take more resources than depot, just that depot seems to better correspond to what i'm looking for
15:58.13Kirkburnfiles. is okay
15:58.25sylvanaaroh thats what it was
15:58.28KirkburnBut http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page is loading incredibly slowly
15:58.31trhi can confirm that www.wowace.com is slow
15:58.35vrakthe wiki part took a fair bit here too
15:58.37Kirkburnpb_ee1, fair enough :)
15:58.48pb_ee1Kirkburn: not anywmore, but files are now slowing down xP
15:58.57pb_ee1files.
15:59.11stavmarso do we hate wowhead here because they sold out?
15:59.22KirkburnNope
15:59.22pb_ee1I don't atm
15:59.24vrakit's stopped responding here
15:59.37pb_ee1I'm waiting to see how things are going on in the next weeks
15:59.50Kaelten|Away:S
15:59.51Adirelletrh: would be a nice idea, indeed
16:00.05pb_ee1I've talked a bit with Skosiris and I don't think he is the type of guy who support gold selling and things like this
16:01.09trhAdirelle: implement it :)
16:01.45Adirelletrh: don't have any kind of control over it, try to convince kaelten :p
16:03.44durcynwell, the alternative is that people actually donate, and we all know how that usually turns out
16:03.54vrakone thing i'd really love to have in WAU is a silent update, which doesn't make any windows or anything, just silently updates all installed addons
16:03.55rophyvhaarr: you trying to fix MobHealth3?
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16:04.08vhaarrrophy: is it broken?
16:04.09CIA-2203jerry * r41653 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_koKR.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate
16:04.28rophyno, but I saw some commit log about major cleaning up
16:04.31FinhyperChipmunk: it's possible to add identical items multiple times in the include / exclude autosend GUI bit
16:04.43Antiarc|WorkMorning folks
16:04.47Finmorning Antiarc|Work
16:04.56vhaarrrophy: not major, just a minor cleanup
16:05.23TheKarnis there an ace mod that adds the quick-slot function much like outfitter does?
16:05.24rophyvhaarr: if you're cleaning it up, iirc its UNIT_COMBAT handler got some flaw, but didnt have time to look at it really.
16:05.33vhaarrrophy: really?
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16:06.18rophyvhaarr: looking at Blizzard's CombatFeedback_OnCombatEvent(event,...), you'll see that the event (which is arg2 of UNIT_COMBAT) can be 'HEAL', in this case the amount (arg4) is the amount healed on the unitid.
16:06.23sylvanaarwau has got a 'snapshot' feature - which sould like what you guys are talking about
16:06.41rophyvhaarr: I believe MobHealth3 didn't take arg2 (event) into account, whether it is a damage or heal.
16:06.52vhaarrrophy: that's probably true, let me check
16:07.11rophythat has been an old time bug, but I never have the chance to really fix it.
16:07.47vhaarrrophy: MH wants to know when something heals and loses HP, though, it seems
16:08.08trhvhaarr: btw: i heard someone requesting a druid flightform support for closetgnome, so it would be possible to equip a flightform speed increase trinket (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32481)
16:08.24vhaarrtrh: I thought I added that already
16:08.34trhvhaarr: it was a while ago, so it may be outdated :)
16:09.04Antiarc|WorkTheKarn: SwapMagic
16:09.33subsonicman, this is confusing
16:09.43durcynClosetGnome_Mount keys off of buff tooltips that have 'increases speed by %.2f' already
16:09.48subsonici should probably start with a tutorial :)
16:09.52durcynbut it's only one set, afaik
16:10.00vhaarrdurcyn: yes it is
16:10.13rophyvhaarr: looking at MobHealth3:UNIT_COMBAT(), it should minus the amount when arg2=='HEAL', but since it esimates actual health by 'damages taken' and ignored the fact that target can be healed, it'll probably results in something weird.. im not sure.
16:10.30vhaarrrophy: I don't use mh myself, and I don't think I will
16:10.49vhaarrrophy: I only decided to do a small cleanup and see if there were some obvious performance problems because lots of people use it
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16:11.03CIA-2203durcyn * r41654 10simpleMinimap/ (embeds.xml simpleMinimap.toc): simpleMinimap: use embeds.xml
16:11.03vhaarrI guess if it was broken, someone would've noticed
16:11.08vhaarrso it's probably fine
16:11.16abyssichateHow come that [Rez] is not working anymore in DogTag?
16:11.35vhaarrit was removed, afaik
16:12.11rophyvhaarr: all right.
16:12.28subsonicCan anybody make a tweak to nQuestLog?  I think it should display the total (n/25) quests at the top of the window but the developer got his hardware stolen and can't update :(
16:12.49durcynsubsonic: post a diff
16:12.55dspXsomeone can help me with Buffalo2?
16:13.00vhaarrrophy: how's SCL's code, does it need any cleanup work?
16:13.01subsonicdurcyn: huh?
16:13.15durcynsubsonic: post. a. differential patch.
16:13.40rophyvhaarr: probably, I don't have time to update it and probably won't for another month.
16:13.46subsonicdurcyn: I don't know how to code.  I'm asking someone else to do it :)
16:13.54Finoh!
16:13.58Finduh, I should read tooltips more
16:14.03vhaarrrophy: hrm okay
16:14.08FinhyperChipmunk: ignore that! :)
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16:14.41durcynsubsonic: post a feature request on the wowace.com/forums then
16:14.47subsonicokay
16:15.16Josh|maHello all, I don't want to disturb, but I'm searching for long time for the solution to get my DropDown working and I didn't find it!
16:15.17Josh|maPlease, can someone say me what I made wrong?
16:15.19Josh|maError:  Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:767: attempt to index local 'filterText' (a nil value):
16:15.20Josh|maAceAddon-2.0-40905:483: in function <...ns\MangAdmin\Libraries\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:460>
16:15.33dspXdamn ignoration ^^
16:21.35stavmarso if you use Cowtip should you still use TTip
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16:27.09abyssichateNot really
16:28.06abyssichateI don't understand why [Zone] now always shows the zone; it used to work only on frame tooltips iirc
16:28.48Chompersa friend of mine is saying WAU is bugged, is everything okay with it?
16:29.20ulicI used it about an hour ago
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16:29.36ulicalthough it did tell me there was a new version, but sf has the same version I already have.
16:29.56lolinternetactually it has .11, but it's not marked as release
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16:30.09abyssichateI just downloaded .12
16:30.26sag_ich_nichtthere is .12?
16:30.27sag_ich_nichtdamnit
16:30.33CIA-2203cryect * r41655 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua): Recount - Adds percent overhealing to the overheal mode
16:30.46sylvanaarits safe, im done for the day
16:32.02Chompersi'll just tell him to update again
16:32.06Chompersmaybe that'll fix them up
16:32.11sag_ich_nichtwhat's with the negative version numbers in the new release? D:
16:33.07sylvanaar- is no externals
16:33.11sag_ich_nichtah
16:33.14sag_ich_nichtkk
16:33.29sag_ich_nichtmaybe should update the doc :P
16:34.01sylvanaarare you offering to do it?
16:34.06sag_ich_nichtnot really
16:34.11sylvanaaroh
16:34.14sag_ich_nichtsince i'm not sure about what some of the features do
16:34.14sag_ich_nicht:P
16:34.21sag_ich_nicht+i'm lazy
16:34.22sag_ich_nichtD:
16:34.50sylvanaari dont like writing documentation
16:35.25sag_ich_nichtneither do i :P
16:35.46Chompers'automatic dependance download' looks cool
16:36.01Chompersdoes that mean i dont have to tick '!!!standalone libaries'
16:36.34sylvanaaryou can uninstall it, do F10 to update
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16:36.48sylvanaarseems to work ok
16:36.55sag_ich_nichtmeh
16:36.58sag_ich_nichti'll keep it around
16:36.59sag_ich_nichtalso
16:37.00sag_ich_nichtreboot time
16:37.11sag_ich_nichtsince nvidia decided to kill my D3D once again
16:38.10subsonicIs anybody here a forum admin?  I think my email is borked, I switched DNS and I'm not getting an activation.
16:38.16Gandharvaany idea how this works properly in CowTips? [ThickOutline] [Name:HostileColor] -> at first it looks ok, but after a second it starts to flicker "unknownTagINSERTPLAYERNAME"
16:39.03Chomperswish there was another header that only shows libaries in WAU
16:39.51Chompers[ThickOutline] [NameRealm?NameRealm:HostileColor]
16:39.51Chomperstry that
16:41.03GandharvaChompers: doesn't work either
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16:46.19CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r99 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Added another call to GameTooltip_ClearMoney(). Get that damn money out of there!
16:47.29subsonicThere's no "contact" on the ace wiki that I can see
16:48.39NickenyfikenHmm for some reason CowTip tells me everyone in my raid is in the same subzone as me in Shattrath City but I'm alone there :-P
16:48.40Punkie`Poke Kaelten|Away
16:49.03Kaelten|Away?
16:49.15Punkie`subsonic didn't get his forum activation
16:50.17GandharvaNickenyfiken: same here :)
16:50.37vodrinyeah same, everyone is in the phoenix hall, although some slackers still in shattrath :<
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16:50.45GandharvaEveryone in Valley of Strenght atm ^^
16:51.49WixiAnyone know the where in the Pitbull code it defines the texture?
16:53.25subsonicI have to talk to my sysadmin about emails :(
16:53.37subsonicthat email is off in limbo land :(
16:55.04subsonicPunkie`: thanks for trying :)
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16:59.38pb_ee1Which minimap addon do you recommand? I'd like to have a square one (if possible), but the most important is that i should be able to move it
16:59.49pb_ee1I see SimpleMinimap, DelMapa, RicoMinimap, ...
16:59.59pb_ee1Dunno which one to take ;p
17:00.04jmei use simpleminimap
17:01.08pb_ee1Does Squeenix let the user move the minimap as well?
17:01.12CIA-2203antiarc * r41656 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
17:01.12CIA-22Threat-1.0:
17:01.12CIA-22- Change REQUEST_CLIENT_INFO so that it always responds with on the WHISPER distribution.
17:01.12CIA-22- Don't parse damage we do to units we can identify as players.
17:01.12CIA-22- Fixed an error that occurred with a combination of Mind Control and gains.
17:01.13CIA-22- Caused Threat to not attempt to process transactions in battlegrounds/arena.
17:01.38NeoTronspeaking of threat - is theer a way to inform people in the raid that they need to upgrade? :)
17:01.49Antiarc|WorkYes, /w joe Hay dumbass, upgrade.
17:01.56Antiarc|Work=)
17:02.06CIA-2203totalpackage * r41657 10Capping/ (13 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
17:02.06CIA-22Capping
17:02.06CIA-22- updated toc for ForkliftGnome -> AddonLoader
17:02.06CIA-22- merged functions that changes the battlefield minimap into a single function
17:02.06CIA-22- when the bg minimap's border is hidden, the close button is also hidden and will reappear on mouseovers
17:02.06nekohhaha
17:02.07pb_ee1:p
17:02.07CIA-22- removed option to hide bg minimap outside battlegrounds since it's no longer necessary (for a while now...)
17:02.10Antiarc|Work(I use this on my raid members to great effect)
17:02.11CIA-22- added a workaround to prevent Jostle from constantly repositioning the world state info frame if you're using Capping to move it
17:03.00Chompershttp://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070623_mars_terraform.html
17:03.34Chompersi'm totally gonna retire on mars
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17:04.21Ominousevening
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17:04.27pb_ee1Heya Ominous ;)
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17:05.49Trancersylvanaar: any  chance the font in the status window of WAU goes back to the previous font
17:05.58Trancerthis one is huge and annoying to read
17:06.06stavmarso i am changing the setting in Cow Tip to change teh background colors and alpha, but no changes are being reflected, using the niagra menu options BTW?
17:06.35Ominouserm, whats changed with ace2? as none of my addons work atm
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17:06.54Antiarc|WorkOminous: Have BugSack dumps?
17:07.03Ominousno
17:07.06Ominousas it hasent laoded
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17:08.02Ominoushmm ace2 has been deleted
17:08.39KarlThePaganOminous, wau2?
17:08.43Ominousya
17:09.16KarlThePagancan you open a command window and cd to your Interface/AddOns directory - then run this command
17:09.25Ominousofc
17:09.38Ominousi have a link to open one there cos of svn =P
17:09.40KarlThePagandir /s /w > addons.txt
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17:10.20Ominousominous.me.uk/addons.txt
17:10.22KarlThePaganthx
17:11.23KarlThePaganwell i guess I've got a new 1st priority ;)
17:11.37Ominousdo u know why it happened
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17:12.21Antiarc|Work:O
17:12.26Ominousin ace2 , txt file called placeholder with "This directory intentionally empty."
17:12.28Antiarc|Work121 commits to Threat-1.0 in the last two weeks
17:12.35KarlThePaganO.o
17:13.16LyfAnyone know of a way to get the PageMaster/Page-On-Press feature with the standard action bars?
17:13.17Antiarc|WorkHahah!
17:13.19Antiarc|Work79 commits to Omen
17:13.21Lyfand is it even possible
17:13.28Antiarc|WorkSo 200 commits to Omen/Threat in the last two weeks
17:13.51cynyr_btw <3 all of those working on threat/omen/violation
17:14.42cynyr_saving me about 15MB of ram and a LOT of CPU, compaired to sws/KTM
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17:15.05KarlThePaganOminous, I believe it could have something to do with interactions between .svn copies and dependencies
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17:15.24OminousKarlThePagan, its not just ace2
17:15.43Jagobahstill waiting on pet merging before I make the jump :)
17:15.51KarlThePaganI see it in abacuslib
17:15.54CIA-2203totalpackage * r41658 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua embeds.xml):
17:15.54CIA-22Cellular
17:15.54CIA-22- use embeds.xml
17:15.54CIA-22- removed some unnecessary external libraries
17:16.15hyperChipmunkyour pet doesn't affect your agro
17:16.23KarlThePaganI see it in a ton of them!
17:16.35OminousKarlThePagan, yea :S
17:16.38JagobahI was talking about violation
17:16.48AdirelleJagobah: it's already in
17:16.55Jagobahthe wiki says it's on todo!
17:16.57OminousKarlThePagan, reinstalled with wau 1.9
17:17.07KarlThePaganOminous, updating mine right now
17:17.28KarlThePaganOminous, I find it really really odd that the directories actually contain a single file
17:17.29snurrewah, finally done renaming mp3s.. hate when you download a collection of 15 albums and none of them have ID3 tags.. something you dont realise until after youve added them to itunes (which ofcourse has the auto-sort files option enabled)
17:17.46Kalman|snurre: TagAndRename.
17:17.50OminousKarlThePagan, well just say if you need me to do any testing
17:17.55KarlThePaganOminous, because if it was wau2 deleting the addons the directories would be removed
17:18.18Lyfsnurre: you know iTunes is able to download/add the track names automatic?
17:18.33snurredidnt work for these
17:18.38CIA-2203roartindon * r41659 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/BarInterface.lua):
17:18.38CIA-22Assessment
17:18.38CIA-22- Added menu options to delete specific fight data
17:18.38CIA-22- Slight improvements to bar interface
17:18.41Lyfahr
17:18.43snurre(clubland 1-11 + extra editions)
17:18.49KarlThePaganOminous, I suspect that updating a second time would clear it up... I wonder if there's a chance that you caught it when it was regenerating the zip files
17:19.10KarlThePaganhowever I also should make sure that it's not something else
17:19.18OminousKarlThepagan: that is a very high chance
17:19.36KarlThePaganyou think?
17:19.53KarlThePaganif the zip files are being regenerated we should see this issue with wau 1.9 also :/
17:21.33KarlThePaganKaelten|Away, pastamancer - ping, looking for some info about the zip/xml generating script
17:22.54durcynsnurre: you should check out musicbrainz
17:24.39snurrehm, i guess
17:27.05KarlThePaganOminous, remove SAL
17:27.18KarlThePaganI can't believe I didn't think of that
17:27.22KarlThePaganX(
17:27.23OminousKarlThePagan: oki.
17:27.32KarlThePagansorry that's a really dumb mistake
17:27.36OminousKarlThePagan: dosent wau2 have support for it?
17:27.59KarlThePaganactually no
17:28.10KarlThePaganit was on the todo and ... got burried by other things
17:28.14Ominousthat should be a high proi to add imo
17:28.22KarlThePaganit is my top priority now ;)
17:29.33CIA-2203ckknight * r41660 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - possible bugfix to not being able to figure out the right lengths of things.
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17:29.59sylvanaarKarlThePagan btw i have been storing each addon's xml data in a file ".souce" in case you want to support it also
17:30.41CIA-2203rophy * r41661 10/branches/MobHealth/: MobHealth3: creating branch folder.
17:30.44KarlThePagansylvanaar, useful for aggregators... I'll do the same
17:31.33CIA-2203durcyn * r41662 10Fence/Fence.toc: Fence: add AddonLoader to LoadManagers field
17:32.05pastamancerKarlThePagan: this is not the info you're looking for
17:32.30KarlThePaganpastamancer, you are correct I realized :)
17:32.51CIA-2203rophy 07Rophy * r41663 10MobHealth/: MobHealth3: - branching for some experimental changes.
17:32.58CIA-2203durcyn * r41664 10Manufac/Manufac.toc: Manufac: add AddonLoader to LoadManagers field
17:33.32CIA-2203totalpackage * r41665 10StellarUF/ (7 files):
17:33.32CIA-22StellarUF:
17:33.32CIA-22- might as well use embeds.xml
17:33.32CIA-22- fixed raid group numbers in battlegrounds
17:33.32CIA-22- reduced some unnecessary external libraries
17:33.39CIA-2203durcyn * r41666 10MobHealth/MobHealth.toc: MobHealth: add AddonLoader to LoadManagers field
17:34.05CIA-2203durcyn * r41667 10Quartz/Quartz.toc: Quartz: add AddonLoader to LoadManagers field
17:34.28CIA-2203durcyn * r41668 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.toc: SpellBinder: add AddonLoader to LoadManagers field
17:34.37KirkburnThe SVN switchboard is lighting up!
17:34.54Funkeh`quit spamming ffs
17:34.55durcyn<PROTECTED>
17:34.57Funkeh`thats my job
17:34.58kebinusandoes a cast bar really need an addon loader? seems like something you'd want all the time
17:35.12durcynkebinusan: nymbia made it lod, that's his bag.
17:35.16hyperChipmunkunless you're a warrior
17:35.45kebinusandurcyn: good point
17:35.48hyperChipmunkbut for a castbar that tracks enemy casts, gcd, etc., then no, no reason
17:36.10Antiarc|Workhttp://208.53.169.77/confession.jpg
17:36.32WixiOk Bugsack isn't picking up any errors for anything, and i can't for the life of me get Pitbull to change textures. Anyone know which line of code sets the global texture?
17:36.36Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: Mounting and Slam both have cast timers >_>
17:36.41durcynWixi: did you install !BugGrabber?
17:36.46Antiarc|WorkAnd bandaging
17:37.08hyperChipmunkhehe
17:38.05Wixidurcyn: Yes
17:38.18subsonichyperChipmunk: Do you have admin rights on the forum?  If so, can you activate my account?
17:38.26KirkburnAntiarc|Work, lol and >_<
17:38.29subsonicI'm lost in DNS land.  I'm trying to fix it now
17:38.46hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: thanks for linking a jpg that's a jpg!
17:38.52ulicWixi: and you checked the "Display Lua Errors" in interface options?
17:38.57hyperChipmunksubsonic: heck, I don't think i even have a forum account myself
17:39.05subsonichyperChipmunk: hhehe :)
17:39.12Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: <3
17:39.17subsonicThen that's a no :)
17:39.34Wixiulic: Yes
17:39.42durcynhyperChipmunk: man, you should do something about that.  there's this 'hyperactive chipmunk' jerk that keeps posting there.
17:39.54WixiThe problem isn;t with buggrabber picking up errors, its just its not showing any in relation to my Pitbull problems
17:39.54hyperChipmunkO_o
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17:41.16pastamancersubsonic: activated
17:41.26subsonicpastamancer: thanks :)
17:42.29Sarozehhhh ckknight, attempt to perform atrih on local q, AceComm, line 723
17:42.40ckknightdoes it say q is nil?
17:42.46Saroza string value
17:42.46Sarozsry
17:43.03ckknightoh, I see the issue
17:43.07Saroz:p
17:43.34CIA-2203ckknight * r41669 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - fix typo
17:43.53ckknightoh fuck, this isn't right.
17:44.02Sarozindeed
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17:45.03CIA-2203ckknight * r41670 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - revert the last two commits
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17:46.07CIA-2203ckknight * r41671 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - properly tell the size of an encoded serialized message.
17:46.37Antiarc|Workhttp://www.destructoid.com/ps3-fanboy-video-proves-that-99-9-of-youtube-users-are-stupid-as-hell-33631.phtml = lawls
17:47.34trhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRNZCZtLvs lol
17:47.44Ominousckknight: im in a guild raid and not all the poeple are showin as in my guild in cowtip
17:48.01ckknightOminous: they have to be in visible range
17:48.10Ominousckknight: ah k
17:48.25subsonicI wonder how they made that WoW Mario brothers
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17:48.56abyssichateOminous: for me range doesn't matter - does it for you? I don't even get health bars on them
17:49.08trhsubsonic: good video editing skills + modifying stuff on a private server
17:49.13trhsubsonic: (and client)
17:49.23subsonictrh: Ahh :)
17:49.32abyssichateckknight: has [Rez] been totally removed? Is there a way to make [Zone] show only on Frame tooltips rather than Units tooltips?
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17:49.42CIA-2203rophy 07Rophy * r41672 10MobHealth/ (Libs/ MobHealth.toc MobHealth3.lua embeds.xml):
17:49.42CIA-22MobHealth3:
17:49.42CIA-22- now has zero dependency.
17:49.42CIA-22- when it is a heal in UNIT_COMBAT, minus the amount.
17:50.16Antiarc|Workhttp://neil.fraser.name/software/img2html/ is just wrong.
17:50.40ckknightabyssichate: [Rez] has been removed, due to general hackishness. [Zone] should work for all units...
17:51.06abyssichateYeah, it does, but I want it to work only on frame tooltips - is there a conditional statement for htat?
17:51.18abyssichate[Zone], that is
17:52.04Ominousckknight: yea that wld be good if it was possible
17:52.05hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: that ps3 video has me weeping, and i'm only 75% done
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17:52.29Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: I'm thinking the author has a future in politics
17:52.41hyperChipmunkhaven't read the text yet
17:52.51ckknightabyssichate: no, there's not
17:52.57abyssichateOkei
17:53.03ckknightOminous: it's not, really.
17:53.07hyperChipmunkomgz home button
17:53.22Chomperswhy did i waste 5 minutues watching that Antiarc
17:53.39trhAntiarc: i once tried a img2html too.. creating a table cell for every pixel, filling the background pixel color of the picture and having it sized 1x1
17:53.42hyperChipmunklol
17:53.43Antiarc|WorkChompers: To laugh at fanboys, of course.
17:53.45trhAntiarc: my browser crashed :(
17:53.51hyperChipmunkbill gates pays himself too much
17:53.57hyperChipmunkthat hoser!
17:55.20trhomg.. the guy that created the movie is a major idiot
17:55.28hyperChipmunknot sure about the 99.9% statistic
17:55.35art3miswow theres some fraud going on at CC these days
17:55.39trhlike nintendo said that a 6-axis controller controller was new
17:55.58CIA-2203ckknight * r41673 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - put in a safeguard to not do configMode stuff when not in configMode
17:55.58art3misthey're advertising 7100gs cards for 89$ with a 50$ rebate
17:56.01hyperChipmunkooh, he has more videos
17:56.06trhit's so clear it's not new... but nintendo were the first one to use it as their default-controller
17:56.26art3miswhen you fill out the rebate and send it in it suddenyl changes to "up to $50" and in reality its only a 10$ rebate
17:57.10trhhyperChipmunk: btw: is "revenue" that what the companies pay to the goverment? (like taxes)
17:57.10NeoTronLurker downed, Moragrim to 52%
17:57.16trhhyperChipmunk: or the annual income?
17:57.19hyperChipmunkno
17:57.20NeoTronstill have issues with controling the murlocs
17:57.20hyperChipmunkincome
17:57.27hyperChipmunkgross income
17:57.27trhhyperChipmunk: ah k
17:57.55cynyr_does anyone know of a mod that does nothing but hide the default player/target/party/raid/etc frames?
17:58.02hyperChipmunkI gotta look this tool up
17:58.11hyperChipmunkarticle implies he has more videos
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18:01.20vrakhyperChipmunk: the bulkmailer, does it send full stacks only (or can it be set to do so) ?
18:01.32hyperChipmunkhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=9vYS3jeUQxM wtf
18:02.10hyperChipmunkvrak: I just altclick-out stacks that aren't full if I don't want to send them
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18:02.33trhhyperChipmunk: i'm guessing its ~14 yr old kiddy
18:02.38vrakso i can't be that darn lazy
18:02.40vrak:(
18:03.06ckknightwell, another half hour
18:03.30uszckknight, did you get my PM about AceComm bug?
18:03.51ckknightyea
18:03.57ckknightI believe I fixed it
18:04.04trhhe reverted his changes fwe minutes ago ;)
18:04.06ckknightnot sure about the negative item links, though
18:04.13ckknighttrh: then put in a real fix.
18:04.18hyperChipmunkAntiarc|Work: ooh, followup video
18:04.22trhckknight: ah =)
18:04.23hyperChipmunkhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9bCu0HR6o
18:04.26uszlet me test then
18:04.29trhckknight: let's hope it works :)
18:04.33Antiarc|WorkhyperChipmunk: I can't take any more
18:04.57ckknightit should
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18:05.18durcynhyperChipmunk: can't watch video here, summary please =P
18:05.35uszheh, seeing how you fixed it it should work properly now :D
18:05.36CIA-2203rophy 07Rophy * r41674 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua:
18:05.36CIA-22MobHealth3:
18:05.36CIA-22- added a MobHealth3:SetMaxHealth(name,level,health) to manually define the max health.
18:05.42hyperChipmunkdude, you gotta watch the second one
18:06.24Vangualthey need to make netnanny block windows movie maker
18:06.26subsonicIs someone making Mobhealth3?
18:06.54durcynsubsonic: that IS mobhealth3
18:07.12subsonicis it by the same guys that made MH2?
18:07.14NeoTronMB3 as existed for quie some time
18:07.41subsonicoh, I didn't know that, obvously :)
18:07.49durcynsubsonic: probably not.  MH/MH2 were abandoned a long time ago, then incorporated into MobInfo-2.  MobHealth3 was an ace rewrite afaik
18:07.59subsonicahh
18:08.01pb_ee1I was curious about one thing. Does modifying the size of the portview also reduces the time the game takes to render the images?
18:08.03durcynit's been up on the main trunk and through WAU for quite some time.
18:08.06NeoTronI like MobInfo2... but changed to  mobhealth3 since MI2 sometimes bugs out and gives mobs A LOT less healt than they should have
18:08.14pb_ee1I mean, will my FPS go up a little bit?
18:08.26PeoiihyperChipmunk: That last video, the only good thing it had going for it was it used a Frogs soundtrack =)
18:08.40durcyneh, mobinfo was okay.  but seriously, who needs to know how many "of the whale" items some random zone trash dropped 18 months ago?
18:08.46NeoTronI noticed last night that changing graphical didn't seem to affect my FPS in SSC :-(
18:08.53liquiemAntiarc, can we have a pause feature in omen/threat?
18:09.00NeoTrondurcyn: I liked it primarily when farming primals
18:09.18Antiarc|Workliquiem: What for?
18:09.20rophyI'm just trying to fix a possible flaw in MH3, and also some meaningless optimizations.
18:09.22durcynNeoTron: maybe i'm spoiled, but i just open up wowhead on another system
18:09.42liquiemAntiarc|Work, fights where there is no npc module, like gurtogg
18:09.42uliccan't you disable it?  that would be the same as pause :)
18:09.43Antiarc|Workliquiem: Seems disingenuous to me, since threat data is only valid if you capture an entire fight
18:09.55Antiarc|Workliquiem: gurtogg should work fine - the debuff is caught
18:10.10Antiarc|Workliquiem: (unless the debuff hasn't been translated into your locale)
18:10.15liquiemAntiarc|Work, there's no npc module?
18:10.38Antiarc|WorkNo module needed. It doesn't need to respond to emotes/yells - Threat automatically multiplies all threat by 0 when you have the debuff on you.
18:10.38uszckknight, ok AceComm seems to be working now like charm
18:10.56Josh_Borkeusz: ha!  ping!
18:11.01Antiarc|WorkIf it isn't working correctly, that's a bug. =)
18:11.27uszJosh_Borke, sup?
18:11.28liquiemAntiarc|Work, ah ok. i dunno if it's working correctly as i havent tested omen with gurtogg yet :p
18:12.12Antiarc|Workliquiem: Aha, ok :)
18:12.33Josh_Borkeusz:  do you mind if i take the code from TEALib and take the AceLibrary requirement out of it?
18:12.43liquiembut but... if there were fights that arent supported by threat.. can we have a pause feature? ^^
18:13.02Josh_Borkeusz:  same goes for md5lib :-)
18:13.09trhTEA? lol.. wasn't that the algorithm the xbox guys used for hashing, when it isn't supposed to be used for that? =)
18:13.11durcynliquiem: if there are fights that aren't supported by threat, poke your head in here and it'll be fixed in ten minutes
18:13.27liquiemAntiarc|Work, or, with ktm, we set ktm mastertarget on a player to simulate that behaviour.. does it interfere with threat?
18:13.31uszJosh_Borke, I see no problem at all, just take what you need
18:13.34durcynAntiarc doesn't sleep.
18:13.45Josh_Borkeusz:  just wanted to check with you, since it is your code :-)
18:14.54Antiarc|Workliquiem: Shouldn't interfere, no. You'll just get no data showing up from KTM.
18:15.17liquiemokaydokay
18:15.34Antiarc|Workliquiem: If it's a huge problem, just hide the omen display for the fight
18:15.39Antiarc|Work(since that's about as effective as a pause!)
18:16.13Antiarc|WorkBut the intent is that every special-cased fight will have a handler
18:16.19liquiemyep, but doesnt pause for everyone in the raid :/
18:16.39Antiarc|WorkEh. Why would you want it to? I'd say it's up to each person to detemine if they want threat data
18:18.12Chompersi keep getting: AceComm-2.0-41660 (Ace2):723: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'q' (a string value)
18:18.24Antiarc|WorkChompers: I think ckknight just fixed that
18:18.25Antiarc|WorkTry an update
18:18.37Chompersokay, will do
18:18.38liquiemwell, the problem is, ktm, as it doesnt support that much, is strong as you can set mastertarget/reset threat for the whole raid. those 2 functions do massivly good for highend raids without modules/support
18:18.47Chompersi'll do it before gruul
18:19.16liquiemsometimes you dont want to tell something about an encountern, so no 10 minutes fixes
18:19.34Antiarc|WorkOmen supposed a manual raid threat reset
18:19.46Antiarc|Worksupports*
18:19.58liquiemwith ktm reset support?
18:20.17Antiarc|WorkIt doesn't issue a reset command to KTM, no
18:20.37Kalman|Does TTK do resets to KTM, though?
18:20.39liquiembut if ktm broadcasts a threat reset, omen notices that?
18:21.35Antiarc|WorkI don't believe so, no. The idea is that you don't want Omen or KTM controlling each other, since you will issue KTM resets at times that you don't want Omen resets.
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18:22.41liquiemhmm, i guess thats a philosophic question on interop between ktm and omen :/
18:22.50Antiarc|WorkYeah :/
18:23.10Antiarc|WorkKalman|: I don't know if TTK does that or not
18:23.45trhAntiarc: you could include a configuration option, so the user can choose what he wants :)
18:24.20Antiarc|WorkI may. I just need to figure out how I want to handle it all.
18:24.22liquiem202403 - resetraid: Fake command 202403 - test: Fake command
18:24.35liquiemthreat2ktm that is
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18:25.40liquiemAntiarc, see ora2 and ctra. first ora2 had basic functionality, but as it supports ctra command like rdychecks and such, it's much easier for the user to choose
18:25.46durcynor you could macro something to reset both of them.
18:25.48liquiemand i think, that was the success of ora2
18:26.28liquiem..and ofc it is ace2'ed ^^
18:27.12Chompersfixed :D
18:27.29Chomperssweet, having over 2000 ace2 errors was scary
18:29.19kebinusanXuerian: Would it be possible to add an option to xloot to have the random functions on the main ml menu instead of a sub menu
18:30.52ckknightChompers: see, unless you have bugs, you won't appreciate when it works ;-)
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18:31.56liquiemisnt it always like that? no complains = the biggest thanks a dev can get ^^
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18:33.42NeoTronMoragrim's earthquake - can you outrange it as ranged DPS?
18:34.24sbuAceComm-2.0-41660 (Ace2):723: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'q' (a string value)
18:34.24sbuhm
18:34.30liquiemNeoTron, nope
18:34.34ckknightcladhaire: ah, I see
18:34.40ckknightloved to stay and chat, but I have work
18:34.42ckknightsbu: update
18:34.49ckknightlove*
18:34.59Adirelleliquiem, Antiarc|Work: I added ktm commands few time ago. For now it only plug into threatlib KLHTM support
18:35.04Xueriankebinusan: I uh, guess it could o_0
18:35.16Adirelleand the reset question is a big one
18:35.36Adirelleit overcomplicates the handling of the value
18:35.54Fisker-oh my god lol Punkie`
18:35.55Adirelleunless you want a KTM reset issues an ThreatLib resets and conversely
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18:36.15sbuah okay ckknight ;o
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18:36.41liquiemAdirelle, dunno, it's really complicated due the different approches of ktm and threat
18:36.53Adirelleliquiem: yes, really
18:37.33durcynNeoTron: yeah, it's about 30 yards iirc
18:38.04Fisker-i lol'd man
18:38.08Xueriankebinusan: Remove the if level == 1 then ........ elseif level == 1 and value == "random" then and replace with if level == 1 then
18:38.19Fisker-My previous guild is using Loot Reaver as "proof" they're not a casual guild
18:38.24trhomg.. i really need a addon perma-searches one category of the AH for a specific items and alarms me or buy it if below a certain buyout price ^^
18:38.37liquiemFisker-, haha
18:38.43Fisker-Although it should be said that before attunements were listed they had 5 attuned for the eye
18:38.45Fisker-one of them being me
18:38.59durcynNeoTron: make that 35 yards
18:39.05Punkie`lolwut, Fisker-?
18:39.12Fisker-indeed
18:39.21Fisker-"Omg we only got void reaver in 4 tries"
18:39.31Fisker-gz, all guilds take him in 2 or less tries
18:40.38sylvanaarlol, i was looking at the bliz addon screen and saying to myself who f***d up ACP
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18:41.07Jagobah!
18:41.28ChompersCryect: just had a recount error when trying to format all data
18:41.31ChompersRecount\Recount_Modes.lua:363: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)Recount\GUI_Main.lua:24: in function <Interface\AddOns\Recount\GUI_Main.lua:24>
18:43.36kebinusanXuerian: thanks I'll do that, we do ml greens in ssc/tk to get marks of ilidari and the submenu thing was just an extra step when I had to assign some random green
18:44.30sylvanaarhm, why does prat load all of babble
18:45.09sylvanaarnm, that is acp doing that
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18:46.29KirkburnAntiarc thanks for the http://www.destructoid.com/ps3-fanboy-video-proves-that-99-9-of-youtube-users-are-stupid-as-hell-33631.phtml
18:47.37Fisker-yay i'm part of 0.01 percent
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18:49.32Fisker-sleep for me, mental retardation for you Kirkburn :(
18:50.45JagobahIs there a mod that can profile entire UI settings?
18:51.22Chompersgruul down at last
18:51.24Chompersholy fuck
18:51.24abyssichateckknight: can you set [Zone] to show only if it is not the same as yours?
18:51.32Josh_BorkeJagobah: what do you mean by profile?
18:52.00hyperChipmunkcp -r wow/WTF wow/WTF.bak
18:52.06hyperChipmunkta-da
18:52.41JagobahThat's one way to do it
18:53.05Josh_Borkeah, so you mean in a way you can export
18:54.05JagobahYeah, and also contain/load different settings for addons
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18:55.51hyperChipmunkit'd have to be able to know what all the SavedVariables are
18:56.24durcynNeoTron: might as well 7/7/47 then
18:56.39Chompersyou recieve loot "Gauntlets of Maritial Perfection"
18:56.42kebinusanyeah
18:56.49yacoobMaritime perfection?
18:56.50Chompersi'm one happy chompy
18:56.58Enderlol
18:56.58kebinusangetting shadowfury for one fight isnt worth giving up dark pact imo
18:57.00durcynMarital Perfection?
18:57.08yacoobMerrytime Perfection?
18:57.15Chompers*martial
18:57.16Chompers:P
18:57.22yacoobjust put on this glove, and you'll be merry
18:57.22durcynWait, Marsupial Perfunction?
18:57.24NeoTrondurcyn: 15% more stamina isn't really worth losing empowered corruption and grim reach for, not to mention fel concentration so I can solo
18:57.25ckknightMaritime
18:57.35yacooband then you dehydrate
18:57.37NeoTronkebinusan: I'm already destruction spec
18:57.41Enderfun
18:57.42kebinusanoh
18:57.43NeoTron0/21/40 to be exact
18:57.47kebinusanthen 7/7/47 imo
18:57.51ckknightokay, apparently I'm not at work yet, btw
18:57.52durcynNeoTron: what's fel conc have to do with shadowfury
18:57.59durcynif you're respeccing for a fight, respec for a fight
18:58.03NeoTrondurcyn: it's a build that's also useful for solo play...
18:58.24NeoTronplus more in affliction means corruption is actually worth using
18:58.34NeoTronto make up for the loss of DPS from demonic sacrifice
18:58.41durcynthat's what imp corr is for. empowered is marginal at best.
18:58.53snurre43/1/17 ftw :p
18:59.05kebinusan42/0/19 imo
18:59.18Arrowmaster42/0/19 here
18:59.39durcyneh, 42/2/17.  healthstone bitch.  sigh.
18:59.51durcynand wtf do you put the 19th point in in destro?
18:59.56snurrei wonder the same
18:59.58NeoTrondurcyn: 25 more DPS or so
19:00.10NeoTron75 more per tick
19:00.16NeoTronthat's not entirely marginal
19:00.34durcynNeoTron: if that.  putting between 9 and 21 in aff just doesn't make sense
19:00.36Mikk1pt in imp healthstone ftw
19:00.40JagobahhyperChipmunk:  Would it still be possible?
19:00.49NeoTrondurcyn: no that's how much it'd giver me with 1250 shadow dmg
19:01.03NeoTronand that's not even including all the debuffs
19:01.18Arrowmastermy 42/0/19 http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AVMriRfzqtboZxx0pr
19:01.21durcynyes, but it's a waste of points when you can top out backlash with that point instead
19:01.24kebinusandurcyn:  intensity and grim reach
19:01.44PrimerI should re-spec: 41/20/0
19:01.45durcynkebinusan: 1/2 intensity though?  i'd rather do imp firebolt and let the imp pewpew some
19:01.46NeoTrongrim reach is incredibly useful too
19:01.51snurrei have grim reach with only 17 in dest
19:01.55Primerkinda sucks for pvp
19:01.59kebinusanno 2/2 intensity and 2/2 destructive reach
19:02.02snurreerr.. destructive reachÆ*
19:02.11Arrowmasteri only do 4/5 devastation
19:02.17durcynguess that works.
19:02.28NeoTron17/0/44 works too
19:02.33kebinusanArrowmaster:  your build is the same of mine
19:02.37kebinusan*as
19:02.38NeoTronremoves empowered corruption
19:02.47NeoTronbut adds 2 backlash, 1 emberstorm
19:02.49Arrowmasterkebinusan: great build huh
19:03.10NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AVzrVMZZxx0tr0tVuAo
19:03.20durcynany lock build is workable these days.  curse blizzard for taking out the retarded talents so we could see who the morons were.
19:03.31durcynimproved drain mana?  hello?
19:03.40NeoTronsolo
19:03.44NeoTronplus filler
19:03.56NeoTronnothinf better to put it in really
19:04.27kebinusanyeah I like Arrowmaster
19:04.37PrimerNeoTron: you pvp much though?
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19:05.42Arrowmasteri think i was using http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IqMMiRfzqtboZxx for the post 2.0 lvl 60 pvp
19:05.42NeoTronno not really
19:05.45kebinusanbleh I cant complete thoughts today
19:05.49Arrowmasterso imba at that time
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19:05.55kebinusanI was sm/ruin at 60
19:05.56NeoTronI wouldn't make a (destro) build like that for pvp
19:06.08NeoTronImp searing pain is imho essential for that
19:06.08kebinusanDestro is nice, I miss the burst damage
19:06.12kebinusanbut damn
19:06.22NeoTronI got a shadow bolt crit for 8595 last night (normal mob)
19:06.25kebinusandark pact is like sex distilled and bottled
19:06.27snurrei was pure aff at 60 (only started the char on 2.0 patch day though).. worked fine enough for getting the pvp epics i needed to prepare for tbc :p
19:06.32PrimerNeoTron: I went from 0-70 as affliction, and when I tried destro, I just couldn't get used to it, so I went back
19:06.35Arrowmasterback when people didnt have HP i was solo defending stables in AB from the alliance zerg spawing at entrance
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19:06.37NeoTronI only recently switched to destro
19:06.47packetlssnever been a fan of DP myself
19:06.55Arrowmasteri could dot them all up and they would die as i resed
19:07.07snurreaffliction4life
19:07.12NeoTronit's pretty nice in many raid encounters
19:07.14packetlssi like LT more (mostly to annoy our healers, and the aggro part to ofc)
19:07.32Primeryeah, as affliction I usually just sit back and dot/fear/dotdotdot
19:07.41Arrowmasteri have darkpact and 2/2 imp LT for a reason
19:07.48Arrowmasterimp cant keep up on mana regen
19:07.51NeoTronaffliction was really annoying on hydross
19:08.01snurreneh
19:08.03NeoTrontrust me I love affliction
19:08.03Arrowmasteryeah
19:08.14Primeralthough I have run into some soul link locks that are harder to kill than warriors with 20k HP
19:08.16NeoTronbut the whole aggro-wipe, but dots reemain, type mobs are annoying
19:08.28kebinusanNeoTron: Agreed
19:08.42NeoTronand I completely own Lurker
19:08.55Arrowmasterhavent tried lurker yet
19:08.56NeoTronbecause there's no ranged threat so I get whole "uptimes" where I have 1300-1500 DPS or more
19:09.03packetlsshydross is fairly easy to handle with the dots, just move you so you are "ahead" of the tank in the changeover
19:09.05kebinusanDark pact is just so nice, its nice being self sufficient
19:09.22kebinusanits just nice not to be such a burden to healers
19:09.23Arrowmasterjust killed hydross on thursday, then spent 7 hours attempting morgrim because the healers fail and kept letting the tank die
19:09.30NeoTronI was surprised by the effiency of soul leech
19:09.39NeoTronwhen doing a dr-boom test I could do 250k dmg until I ran OOM
19:09.50NeoTronArrowmaster: warrior tank?
19:10.00Arrowmasterfor morgrim? yeah
19:10.06Primeryeah, being self-sufficient really does make life easier
19:10.11NeoTronrough fight for a warrior
19:10.15NeoTrondruids are preferred imho
19:10.28Arrowmasterhe was chugging ironshield pots and only getting hit for like 3k
19:10.29NeoTrondue to his attack speed and the quake knockdown warriors will take crushing blows
19:10.54NeoTronour druid tank spent a large part of the fight with 37k armor
19:11.05NeoTronarmor cap against l73 mobs is 36k..
19:11.07ZealotOnAStickwe've got an evasion-geared warrior in our guild who's got crushing blows down to like 4% chance.
19:11.16Arrowmasterour druid tank normally had that much armor i think
19:11.31ZealotOnAStickhe takes more on normal hits, but is almost never crit/crushed.
19:11.32NeoTronit's with the inspiration buff though
19:11.36NeoTronshe's not quite that high without...
19:11.55NeoTronZealotOnAStick: in "normal" fights warriors shouldn't be crused due to shield block
19:11.57Arrowmasterwell he has enough that hes always above the 70% mitagation point
19:12.06NeoTronbut on faster attacking mobs it's unavoidable to a degree
19:13.05ChompersSSC trash looks fun
19:13.21Arrowmasterthe green cloud of death isnt fun
19:13.29snurreSSC sucks tbfh
19:14.05NeoTronI like SSC
19:14.07Primerheh, I haven't even seen Kara, much less SSC. I can't seem to find a guild that interested in raiding
19:14.07NeoTrontrash is fun
19:14.08Arrowmasterwe got 4 epics yesterday from our first murlock pack we killed
19:14.34PrimerI joined a guild last night called PvP. We did 2 AB and 1 WSG premade...lost them all
19:14.44NeoTronawesome
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19:15.10trhPrimer: lol. versus random?
19:15.23Primervs. other premades
19:15.41Arrowmasteri was in an 11 warlock AB premade this weekend
19:15.50Arrowmasterwe beat another premade
19:15.52Chompersbeast tamer > screamers > bats ?
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19:15.56Chompersany tricks?
19:16.04ckknightPrimer: guild's name is <PvP>?
19:16.15Primerno, just PvP
19:16.20PrimerIIRC
19:16.26NeoTronChompers: no,just about that. try to keep bats feared/sheeped when possible
19:16.27ArrowmasterChompers: first pull?
19:16.34Chompersaye
19:16.36Chompersevery furst
19:16.36ckknightI use the angle brackets cause that's how guilds look, Primer
19:16.38Chompers*first
19:16.42ckknight:-P
19:16.45rophywhere can I download wau2?
19:16.46Primerckknight: yeah, my bad
19:16.51Chompers*very first
19:16.54Primerbut yes, PvP, on Gorgonnash
19:16.57Arrowmasteri think we killed the casters first then the bats then the other mobs
19:17.07ckknightfunny PvP guild on my last guild: <It Hurts When I PvP>
19:17.14NeoTronwe started witht he casters until we realized the tamer makes the bads a lot harder
19:17.25NeoTronand the casters is mostly of no consequence if tanked away from the raid
19:17.34Arrowmasterwe kill the casters before the tamers do BW
19:17.43Arrowmasterthe caster tank then picks up the bats
19:17.45ckknighterr, last server*
19:19.11CIA-2203jncl * r41677 10Skinner/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
19:19.11CIA-22Skinner: Skinned CowTip, KC_Items & AceAddon Donation Frame
19:19.11CIA-22- Updated Fence skin
19:19.11CIA-22- Updated ArkInventory to handle v2
19:19.22Chomperswhere are the screamers tanked?
19:19.23hyperChipmunkO_o wru wikipedia
19:19.29Chomperswhere they are?
19:20.05MorghushyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyperChipmunk! <3 BulkMail2
19:20.25MorghusI've probably saved an hour today :D
19:20.51benhow
19:21.37MorghusAutoqueue's, autograbbing stuff from inbox <3
19:21.59MorghusI've been holding off opening my horde-mule's mail :P
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19:23.37Chompershoray! first group down
19:23.40Chompersonly 7 deaths
19:23.53Azurewrathfirst pull ever?
19:24.00Chompersyeah :D
19:24.08Azurewrathrather good then ;)
19:24.25Chompersi did not expect the bats to charge
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19:26.31WixiSo how do i get the graphs up like in http://shinobitech.net/files/img/WoW/jehdin_interface.jpg?
19:26.58durcynChompers: yeah.  gotta drag them far enough away so they're charging the offtank's paladin instead of the raid.
19:27.08Chompersaah
19:27.11durcynChompers: you'll probably wipe on the first colossus though :o
19:27.15jmeWixi: i think that's Recount
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19:27.19Chomperscolossus now
19:27.30Chompershis abilities look fun
19:27.31durcynChompers: if it's acid spray... nice knowing you.
19:27.33NeoTroncolossus is either ezmode or hell
19:27.35Wixijme: Yeah using Recount but can't find them :(
19:27.36Azurewrathwe just focus kill the bats asap.. after that it's a piece of cake
19:28.07NeoTronWixi: Ctrl/Shift/Alt click on a person
19:28.10jmeWixi: also, hunter with 1k agi... wow
19:28.13durcyngetting 23 people to move one way is the easy part.. getting the person he's spraying to go some other way is where it gets annoying.
19:28.26NeoTrondurcyn: we don't even try
19:29.05WixiNeoTron: Thanks a lot
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19:29.34Wixijme: Hehe i don't know the guy, just saw theSS and remembered i'd been meaning to get it for a while
19:29.55jmeWixi: ah, ok
19:30.34Chompersphew, he just went into a frenzy
19:32.29JaxonWell shit, Postal isn't showing up and I'm not getting any errors on login.
19:32.51CIA-2203durcyn * r41678 10Skinner/ (Skinner.toc embeds.xml): Skinner: use embeds.xml
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19:33.21syerenckknight, how high on your priorities is getting the Aura system more polished in Pitbull?
19:33.30CIA-2203durcyn * r41679 10Skinner/Skinner.toc: Skinner: actually USE embeds.xml now
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19:33.46ckknightsyeren: not too high...
19:33.49syerenI don't see why they have to be split onto a new row ---
19:33.52syerenSo fucking annoying.
19:35.30kbhwell ya dont want debuffs on raid bosses goin off the screen :P
19:35.32Chompersnuking a bat first worked a treat
19:35.34Chompersthanks
19:35.42Chompersonly one death this group
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19:36.31syerenkbh, I also don't like my party debuffs going over another players frame because the debuffs are put on a new row ---
19:36.59syerenAnd the ability to have them both on the same row got took away in one of the early revisions :/
19:37.10durcynsyeren: code it and submit a patch
19:37.39kbhor you could just adjust the group spacing
19:37.58syerenNo chance.
19:38.04Chompersthe acid attack just killed 1/2 the raid :P oh joy
19:38.06syerenI hate having shit spread all over the screen.
19:38.41CIA-2203ckknight * r41680 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make it so [Zone] doesn't show for visible units.
19:38.55syerendurcyn, I really wish I was capable, my understanding of Lua is extremely limited :(
19:39.16ckknightI really should go through auras...
19:39.18ckknightbah
19:39.24ckknightbut there are so many other fun things to do
19:39.25syerenckknight, someone posted a complaint on EJ.
19:39.30syerenWhich I have noticed sometimes too.
19:39.39syerenSometimes only in certain revisions, which is really odd :p
19:40.10syerenhttp://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10707&page=12
19:40.19syerenIs it possible to group a series of debuffs together so they are all counted as "movement impairing" so the frame could light up with maybe bright yellow - which shouts "BOF ME PLZ"
19:40.25syerenThat's an amazing suggestion :o
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19:40.57CIA-2203durcyn * r41681 10Hourglass/ (Hourglass.toc embeds.xml): Hourglass: add X-Embeds to toc and move libs to embeds.xml
19:41.11syerendurcyn, is that a cooldown Mod :P?
19:41.45Antiarc|Workckknight: Is it worth it to floor numbers before sending them over AceComm?
19:41.46durcynsyeren: it's Evl's cooldown mod, yes.
19:41.52ckknightAntiarc|Work: yes
19:41.56Antiarc|WorkOk, thought so.
19:41.58durcyni was just futzing with the embeds, is all.  shh, don't tell.
19:42.14Antiarc|WorkDidn't know if you had some kind of voodoo going on that made that obsolete
19:42.18yacoobcooldown mod: in the middle of battle a booming voice screams 'cool down, dude!'
19:42.34ckknightAntiarc|Work: [-127, 127] is 1 bytes, [-32768, 32767] is 2 bytes, etc.
19:42.39durcynnah, hourglass is just spellbook/trinket use cd candybars.
19:42.46Antiarc|WorkAre you converting floats to ints before encoding?
19:42.51ckknightno
19:42.58syerenKBH, this is my problem right now, and there is nothing I can do with the space I want assigned at the moment...
19:42.58ckknightAntiarc|Work: if it's not an integer, it sends it in IEEE 754 format
19:42.58syerenhttp://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_062507_203543.jpg
19:43.02syerenThere :(
19:43.02Antiarc|WorkAh, ok
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19:44.33subsonicsyeren: Is that a replacement for archud?
19:45.02syerenThat's Icehud.
19:45.03syeren:p
19:45.06CIA-2203durcyn * r41682 10Fence/ (Fence.toc embeds.xml): Fence: use embeds.xml
19:45.31ckknightAntiarc|Work: so if you send 1.5, it's 8 bytes, compared to sending 2, which is 1 byte
19:45.34ckknightAntiarc|Work: basically.
19:45.38Antiarc|Work*nod*
19:45.46ckknightAntiarc|Work: the point is, what you get in is what you'll get it, it tries to optimize when it can
19:45.54ckknightbut won't destroy data
19:45.57Antiarc|WorkFair enough
19:46.03subsonicWhich do you guys like better, icehud or archud?
19:46.06ckknightalright, time to go to work
19:46.11Antiarc|Work(I meant expressing floats as ints though)
19:46.15Antiarc|WorkBut have a good day.
19:46.22durcynsubsonic: assuming archud's wow-2.0 problems are fixed, they're roughly equivalent.
19:46.37syerenckknight, would the aura rows be easy for me to look into as a complete rookie?
19:46.43syerenOr would you advise I wait / learn?
19:47.27Chompersand i get the first vortex :D
19:47.48kbhyou should just turn down party debuffs a bit
19:47.55vhaarrhrm
19:47.56vhaarrwowace down?
19:47.59kbhtake off 2
19:48.21kbhyou could scale them down too
19:48.44Chompershow do we get to the Luker?
19:48.56Chomperswe dont have the resist gear for hydross
19:49.03syerenkbh, In arena I generally don't want to be squinting and paying direct attention to debuffs ;p
19:49.06vhaarrChompers: just run past hydross :P
19:49.14syerenHence the size of the debuffs, so I have to spend less time focusing on them ;p
19:49.16durcynChompers: sneak left of him.  gotta clear all those platforms to kill the fish
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19:49.34kbhwell, you dont have to scale them down, but unless you're doing 5v5 you're not going to see more than 10 debuffs on someone
19:49.40AzurewrathChompers: skip Hydross at the left side.. clear all five platforms then.. then goto Lurker
19:49.46kbhunless theyre being attacked by a warlock and 2 shadowpriests
19:49.57syerenAnd guess what I do kbh ;)?
19:49.59syeren5v5 ;p
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19:50.12syerenWhere gib / dot and rot teasm are becoming stupidly more common -_-
19:50.25NeoTron<PROTECTED>
19:50.51kbhtrue, but the unitframe hilighting tells you if you can do anything
19:51.05syerenIt's not so much for dispeling Kbh.
19:51.15syerenFor for that skilled ability with all the logic behind it, MS ;p
19:51.59ZealotOnASticklol.
19:52.19ZealotOnAStickThe timer bar in Quartz for the ghetto-hearth ported out of an instance is "Instance Boot"
19:52.32durcynNeoTron: depends.  the 3% crit from backlash is nice if you've got the crit/int gear to back it up
19:52.33ZealotOnAStickmay be the Blizzard name as well, just never seen it before.
19:53.21durcynZealotOnAStick: we should change that to "Booterang Incoming" and see who notices.
19:53.25kbhraid leaders should just get an out of combat rightclick instance boot button
19:53.47kbhi usually keep standbys in group 8
19:53.55NeoTrondurcyn: well 3% crit is 3% crit regardless of gear
19:54.02NeoTronI'm not sure how accurate the dps meters are
19:54.06NeoTronI mean calculator
19:54.43durcynNeoTron: no, i mean "sufficient untalented crit rating so that devastation and backlash suddenly make Ruin worth getting"
19:54.45NeoTronbut it has no option to always use conflag when the CD is down so I'm not sure if it does that or not
19:55.02NeoTronruin is always worth getting if you go that far into destruction..
19:55.10syerenkbh, it may seem odd, but it's mainly due to amount of time I have to intake data while directing my attention to different places in arena :)
19:55.16syerenI don't know if you play a healer though :p
19:56.57durcynNeoTron: well, i wouldn't skip it if i was going over 20, but that doesn't mean it's useful without sufficient crit rating
19:57.00kbhyou solo heal 5v5
19:57.09kbhor usually have 2
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19:58.06syerenI play priest in a 2 / 2.5 healer set up :p
19:58.11syerenWhich means I change roles a lot :p
19:58.25kbhwhat spec, disc?
19:58.29NeoTrondurcyn:  if you go destruction hopefully you have crit..
19:58.40NeoTronbut since the main spells all crit as destro I sure hope you do
19:59.15NeoTronwith the specs I'm looking at, removing ruin means a loss of like 140 DPS
19:59.18kbhi 2v2 with a disc priest and slaughter :P (mage)
19:59.19NeoTrontheoretical loss
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19:59.43syerenDisc / Holy, I tend to avoid 2v2 though.
19:59.55syerenWhen you get to 2200-2300 it turns into a bullshit fest.
20:00.04Bveri was destro for a long time, now im starting to think i can do more as an aff lock :P
20:00.23NeoTronaff is better / equvalient in most fights
20:00.36NeoTronspeccing destro for special purpose reasons :P
20:00.36kbhran into a ret pally the other day who was also an engineer
20:00.41Bverwell for a while my gear was aimed towards fire dmg
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20:00.46kbhopenened with a strange charge
20:00.48Bverbut as im getting more upgrades
20:00.48Chompershow do we get across the water to Lurkers platform?
20:00.53Chompersthe fish look evil
20:00.58Bveri can switch freely between specs
20:01.19Chompersdo we kill everything on all 6 platforms?
20:01.31Bverya
20:01.36AzurewrathChompers: clear the platforms, then the water boils and kill all fishes
20:01.59NeoTronmy fire gear is a bit inferior to my shadow
20:02.09Azurewrathit's possible to kill the lurker with the fishes alive.. but it's much harder.. as a clothie im like 90% dead if i get kicked into the fishes
20:02.09NeoTronbut still seem to do similar level if not higher with fire
20:02.14Chomperswhat's the droprate for vortexs?
20:02.15Kalman|Make sure you timer fish respawns, because having fish respawn during a fight is bad.
20:02.16NeoTronat least if I can get heals and a fire mage
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20:02.27AzurewrathChompers: dunno, pretty high..
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20:03.09durcynChompers: i've seen half a dozen in a single night, not even a full clear
20:03.13Bverits about the same for me, 1267 fire 14.5% hit 28% crit
20:04.35Adirelleany tested misdirection in a mixed KTM, Threat environmeny ?
20:04.38NeoTronmy shadow dmg is about 1250ish buffed (16% hit and 25% crit maybe)
20:04.42NeoTronmy fire damage is a bit lower
20:04.51NeoTronbut with a bit higher crit
20:04.56Bverbut i was thinking, because im hit capped now, that imp SB would be up almost all the time and overall i would do more dmg as aff. Not sure tho havent tested it yet
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20:05.24NeoTronaffliction is more dps if you can't just stand and nuke full out for the duration of the fight
20:05.58NeoTronin a perfect condition - stand and nuke indefinitely with healing support, destro likely wins
20:06.03Bverthere isnt many moving fights tbh
20:06.06alexti am jealous of my destro warlocks
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20:06.19NeoTronerr. yes there is :)
20:06.30NeoTrongruul, mag, void reaver to mention 3
20:06.35Bverlike supremus
20:06.44alextaran
20:06.50alextif you want to include karazhan
20:06.52NeoTronif you're in BT you're quite a bit ahead of our progression :P
20:06.55alextpretty mobile fight there
20:07.09Chompersthe mobs in SSC aren't that bad
20:07.13Bveridk see as destro im usually critting for 7000 +
20:07.35NeoTronwell including kara - moroes (dots during vanish), maiden (dots during repentance), opera - potentially multiple mobs, aran (mobile), prince (possibly mobile),
20:07.57durcynand then you have shit like Naj'entus, wipes them all the damn time
20:07.58CIA-2203rophy 07Rophy * r41683 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua:
20:07.58CIA-22MobHealth3:
20:07.58CIA-22- removed variable 'totalDamage' since it's not used in the code.
20:08.09Bverand the weird thing is, everyone says aff is better for mana efficiency, but i find its just the opposite
20:08.14durcynonly bubble more annoying than a paladin
20:08.16NeoTronI know what you do as destro. however you get less time spent on DPS even if you just have to move for 3 seconds that's a fully lost shadow bolt
20:08.19Bveri use more mana loading up dots
20:08.23NeoTronlol
20:08.24NeoTronno
20:08.26alextyou using dark pact though?
20:08.28durcynBver: assuming you time lifetap/darkpact correctly
20:08.31Bveryeah
20:08.36alextI have been affliction for a year and I have never used a single mana pot
20:08.38NeoTronaffliction is A LOT better because you have dark pact, life tap and siphon life
20:08.41alextin my life
20:08.46durcynstanding there at full HP watching SL tick, or any dot with full FSW...
20:08.46alextyah
20:08.48alextand uhm
20:09.02alexti guess what helps me alot is the dungeon set 3 bonus...I am still wearing 2 pieces of dungeon set 3
20:09.04durcynyou just have to cut your wrists more frequently.
20:09.07alextwhich gives your pet what....180/mp5
20:09.09alextor something
20:09.17NeoTrondestruction relies heavily on getting heals after life tap
20:09.19alextyou give an imp that kind of mana regen
20:09.22alextyou got unlimited mana
20:09.24CIA-2203hegarol * r41684 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
20:09.24CIA-22AtlasLoot:
20:09.24CIA-22- Raid loot upgrade
20:09.26NeoTronalthough it is surprisingly good with soul leech
20:09.32AwaaGetting spamed with; [2007/06/25 22:00:33-29-x1]: AceComm-2.0-41660 (Ace2):723: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'q' (a string value)<in C code>: ?AceEvent-2.0-40601 (Ace2):329: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:310>
20:09.33Bveri get spoiled tho
20:09.39Bverim in shadow priests group
20:09.48NeoTronthat does help a lot
20:09.50Sarozupdate Awaa
20:09.53NeoTronI try to do that whenever I can
20:09.54Awaakk
20:10.18NeoTronon a fight like VR where you can't expect much heals, no shadow priest was an issue
20:10.22NeoTronwith shadow priest no mana issues
20:11.01Bverbut for aff i made this macro  /castsequence reset=target/combat/12 Unstable Affliction, Immolate, Corruption, Siphon Life, Dark Pact;
20:11.06alextone thing to remember with dark pact if your using imp is to take off phase shift
20:11.08NeoTronwith affliction you can maintain DPS indefinitely without heal if you take no damage
20:11.10alextso he can get buffed
20:11.11alextthen turn it back on
20:11.13Bverseems to work decently
20:11.41NeoTronI found that my long term sustained DPS (in shadow heavy gear) is better without immolate
20:11.43Chompersand we've got lots of people getting stuck in the walkways :P
20:11.44NeoTronas affliction
20:11.48Chomperswe need to summon them now
20:11.49alextNeoTron: i was just going to say that
20:12.28alextmy dot sequence on big HP mobs is UA / curse of shadow / siphon life / corruption / sb spam
20:12.35alextreapply as needed
20:13.01alextif its a really mobile fight I will throw immolate in sometimes
20:13.04alextbut its more of a hassle
20:13.06NeoTronyeah
20:13.32NeoTronit's likely I'll go back to affliction at some point
20:13.39NeoTronbut for now destro is kind of fun
20:13.46alextI wanted to go destro real bad
20:13.50NeoTronloved the 8595 crit I got >:-)
20:13.51Bveri didnt really like aff cus of the button spamming
20:13.55alextbut I am too gear optimized for affliction
20:13.58Bverbut this macro makes it nicer for sure
20:14.19jmeall this lock talk makes me want to roll one
20:14.40Bverwell as destro, like on teron gorefiend im clocking about 1500 dps
20:14.51Bverim not sure i can do that as aff
20:15.12jmei finally broke 700 burst dps last night on my hunter :(
20:15.44Mikkget rogue leather and respec BM
20:15.47*** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@254.145-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
20:15.48Mikkgogo 1000dps sustained
20:15.50jmei am BM
20:15.52Dustwhisperaffliction is shit, need nukelocks!
20:15.54jmeheh
20:15.59Mikkget rogue leather =P
20:16.18jmethe assassination set?
20:16.20alextDustwhisper: nah if you look at some of the raid reports from black temple guilds
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20:16.25alextyou see affliction over destruction
20:16.27Mikksure, assassination works
20:16.37Bveraffliction deffinatley has better utility
20:16.45alextthey are both awsome
20:16.53Bverlike SE works vs Bloodboil
20:16.59Bverwhich is nuts
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20:17.11durcyn23/38/0 is pretty imba too, if you can sac a succubus
20:17.35alextin that build what are you shooting for after sac?
20:17.42alextsac would be 21, why go to 38 just curious
20:18.09Bverthat build is kinda bad imo
20:18.09durcynit's situational, SL'd succ parked out of aoe / sac it for encounters where it can't survive
20:18.16durcynshoulda said "where you don't have to be a blood pact bitch"
20:18.20alextah ok
20:18.27Bversac a succy for 15% more < the dmg from UA
20:18.30alextI was debating 40/21/0
20:18.34durcynbut people get so worked up over that 700 hp
20:18.43alextsac succubus then you got SM and sac
20:18.59Bverdo the math
20:19.02Bverits still less
20:19.04Bverlol
20:19.25durcyn40 aff without dp though, shrug
20:19.29Icerothjust out of curiosity, how would 30/31/0 work for pvp?
20:19.31alext41 is UA
20:19.35alextu can get DP with 40
20:19.41Bversome kid in our guild had that hybrid crap, we destroyed him every fight
20:19.44durcynalext: not with a ds'd pet
20:19.50alextmy theoretical 40/21/0 build had DP
20:19.52AdirelleMikk: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:AddonLoader#Adirelle.27s_suggestion
20:19.53CIA-2203antiarc * r41685 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
20:19.53CIA-22Threat-1.0:
20:19.53CIA-22- Split global threat adjustments into player/pet
20:19.53CIA-22- Fixed a large number of problems relating to global threat adjustments and displayed threat
20:19.53CIA-22- Removed the internal threat update event; just using a function call now. Should speed things up a bit.
20:19.54alexthmmm let me double check
20:19.54CIA-22- Added a bunch of debug statements to help debug threat clears
20:20.10durcynjust do the "uber paladin build". 20/20/20 and the last point off to prove you're a man.
20:20.57Adirelle~seen Mikk
20:21.32purlmikk is currently on #wowace (1d 10h 12m 55s). Has said a total of 344 messages. Is idling for 5m 5s, last said: 'sure, assassination works'.
20:22.00jmebout 30 lines up
20:22.00Killmorew00t <3 threat
20:22.01lolinternetthere is a bug in drewdrop with tooltip placement
20:22.01lolinternetit's annoying
20:22.01lolinternet><
20:22.01sag_ich_nichtand if it's not a bug, it's bad design :P
20:22.16alextdurcyn: yah u can
20:22.17alextconfirmed
20:22.24alexthttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IA0MVRfzqzZfxczI0z
20:22.26alextthats 31/21/0
20:22.31alexti didnt even finish filling out the points
20:22.36alextOH
20:22.38alexti am an idiot nm
20:22.44alextof course you cant dark pact with a sac'ed pet
20:22.46alext....
20:22.54Bverlol
20:23.02ulicis there a function that will tell you if an item is soulbound or not?
20:23.08NeoTronalext: hehee
20:23.10NeoTronactually
20:23.12NeoTronyou can
20:23.14NeoTronif you enslave a pet
20:23.20NeoTronlike the imps in karazhan
20:23.25alexti love those ;[
20:23.31alextthey have, what, 20k mana?
20:23.36hyperChipmunkulic: you gotta scan the tooltip
20:23.39hyperChipmunkafaik =\
20:23.39MikkAdirelle: answered it
20:23.48NeoTronsomething like that
20:23.50Adirelledoh, I'm writing another thinl
20:24.05ulichyperChipmunk: k, thanks
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20:25.22Adirellehrm... Wiki is not really suitable for discussion :(
20:25.33Mikksure it is.. just indent your replies more
20:25.49Mikkemulate a threaded forum
20:25.51Adirellebtw, what the tag to include your signature ?
20:26.00Mikk--~~~~
20:26.07Adirelleeasy... :p
20:26.32Mikk~~~ is your signature
20:26.32purl...but ~~ is already something else...
20:26.36Mikk~~~~ is your sig and timestamp
20:26.36purl...but ~~~ is already something else...
20:26.39BenumbedHow do you stop Right Click from not registering a click on a button when something on the cursor?
20:26.50Shirikpurl, shut up
20:26.51purlshutting up now, master shirik
20:26.52Mikk-- just looks nice :P
20:26.52Arrowmaster~~~
20:26.53purlI HATE YOU, arrowmaster!!!
20:26.53sag_ich_nichthttp://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1565/wowscrnshot062507222119za0.jpg <--there, this tooltip placement is really annoying
20:26.58Arrowmaster~~~~
20:26.59purlARGH!!! STOP IT arrowmaster!!!
20:27.03Shirikoh yeah
20:27.03Shiriklol
20:27.05Shirik~~~~~
20:27.06purlgrrrr
20:27.07Shirik~~~~~~
20:27.08purlACTION takes out a revolver and shoots shirik in the head three times.
20:27.08sag_ich_nichtShirik
20:27.09sag_ich_nichtshut
20:27.10sag_ich_nichtup
20:27.14Shirik~~~~~~~
20:27.15purlACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat shirik.
20:27.21Shirik^^
20:27.26sag_ich_nichtanyway
20:27.26Kuja^lol
20:27.28sag_ich_nichthttp://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1565/wowscrnshot062507222119za0.jpg <--there, this tooltip placement is really annoying
20:27.37sag_ich_nicht(please ignore the broken macro, was clicking accident :O)
20:28.30sag_ich_nicht+a
20:28.50jme~~~~
20:28.50purlARGH!!! STOP IT jme!!!
20:29.42starlono.O
20:29.47durcynyou'd think people never saw a bot before.
20:29.52durcyn~lart everyone
20:29.52purlgives everyone a good seeing to
20:29.59sag_ich_nichtckknight you there? :O
20:30.14Ziconpurl: I love you.
20:30.15purlYou love you.?
20:30.23Zicon*giggle*
20:30.37sag_ich_nichtlol'd
20:31.22Killmoresag_ich_nicht: what is the addon on left corner with S Y G O W E G .... ?
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20:31.34sag_ich_nichtKillmore: Chatbar
20:31.42BenumbedHow do you stop Right Click from not registering a click on a button when something on the cursor?
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20:34.13AdirelleMikk: about GUI and "overrides", I was thinking about adding some kind of "mixin" or the like for addon author who would like to embeds a loadtime overide in their addon.
20:34.28Adirelle(plz forgive my english)
20:34.39Peoiisqueee, new Babylon5 Movie trailor...
20:34.43AdirelleMikk:  but NOT in addonloader
20:35.27AdirelleMikk: e.g. addonloader : pure loader stub with a SV tho (to remember overrides), something for GUI (ACP ?) and third, a small library for addon authors
20:35.56Killmoresag_ich_nicht: dont find chatbar in wau
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20:37.43Killmorefind it
20:37.44sag_ich_nichtKillmore: that's because it's not a Ace2 addon
20:37.45sag_ich_nichthurdur
20:37.49sag_ich_nicht*an
20:37.58MorghusMSBT. How do I stop the text from wobbling... or shaking, or whatever they do
20:38.05sag_ich_nichtit's... *GASP* part of cosmos.
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20:47.03kebinusanhmm some mod has some weird bell ding
20:47.06kebinusanI cant figure out which
20:47.29durcynkebinusan: msbt, sct, omen warning noise?
20:47.35kebinusanomen, must be it
20:47.39kebinusanonly thing Ive updated
20:47.43durcynomen's is off by default, iirc
20:47.53CIA-2203antiarc * r41686 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix an error that occurs when there is no offset to apply.
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20:49.11Antiarc|WorkIt's Omen
20:49.16Antiarc|WorkBut it should be off by default
20:49.24Antiarc|WorkHappens when you pass 90% of your tank's threat
20:49.39durcynAntiarc|Work: speaking of.. the dewdrop slider to adjust that shows totally bizarre values
20:50.16Antiarc|Workdurcyn: Fixed in my next commit
20:51.48Chompersthe Lurkers owned us :P
20:51.59Chompers*Lurker
20:52.31HjalteSpout!Spout!... What did you say? I don't see an... Oops.
20:52.40subbawtlol
20:52.44subbawtwe don't take any chances on lurker
20:52.52subbawtwe have *EVERYONE* get in the water like 15 seconds early
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20:53.10HjalteAnd then when it moves the other way around, some people are ALWAYS surprised by it.. >.<
20:53.40Icerothhreat-1.0-41686 (Threat-1.0):1308: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'gOffset' (a nil value)
20:53.49IcerothThreat-1.0-41686 (Threat-1.0):1308: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'gOffset' (a nil value)
20:53.53Antiarc|WorkBah!
20:54.09CIA-2203gagorian * r41687 10DrDamage/ (Data/Paladin.lua DrDamage.lua):
20:54.09CIA-22DrDamage:
20:54.09CIA-22- 1H weapon specialization shouldn't apply to healing spells, obviously.
20:54.09CIA-22- Fix for melee hit rating in tooltips (base is 10 at 60, not 8)
20:54.13durcynreal men play c'thun on the lurker and run circles on the middle platform
20:54.13Icerothrev 41686
20:54.40CIA-2203antiarc * r41688 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix another nil offset problem.
20:54.44Gagoriandurcyn: That's what we did for a while. Fun fun.
20:55.01durcynGagorian: it is, except the ratio of smart to stupid stays the same going from 40 to 25
20:55.06HjalteDurcyn, that's what some of our melees usually do. Once, one of our mages, was very unlucky, and very close to a raid kick, and got hit 3 times in a row by Spout.
20:55.51durcyni wish i had time to take new recruits to naxx to test them out
20:56.08durcyn"retards, meet Heigan.  dance!"
20:56.54Peoiiok, this error is really really getting old...
20:56.55Peoii[2007/06/25 13:43:20-178-x1]: AceComm-2.0-41671 (Ace2):1137: attempt to concatenate local 'dist' (a nil value)  ---
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20:57.05PeoiiI'm seeing peoples whispers that are addon feedback :/
20:57.07Chompersnever been to naxx
20:57.19Chompersi hear it requires poopsocking
20:57.29jmewow, people actually say poopsocking
20:57.35jmei thought my brother made that term up
20:58.03Gagorianjme, meet Chompers, your brother
20:58.07sag_ich_nichtpoopsocking is for wimps
20:58.08GagorianChompers, meet jme, your brother
20:58.13jmeGagorian: :p
20:58.16sag_ich_nichtreal men hunger.
20:58.17durcynPeoii: tell them to upgrade their damn AceComm
20:58.51durcynChompers: no, it just requires intelligence and paying attention, two things that are in short supply among wow players
20:59.01Chompersagreed
20:59.02jmeChompers: do you play on Maelstrom?
20:59.13ChompersKul Tiras EU
20:59.23jmeChompers: ah, nevermind, that's my brother's realm.. just wondering ;)
20:59.29jme<- Stormreaver US
20:59.32Chompersah right
20:59.38CIA-2203rabbit * r41689 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Fix an error message.
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21:00.01vhaarrPeoii: Some addon is using it wrong.
21:00.03subsonicdurcyn:  it also requires a good guild and dedicated time.  I'm a good player, but I can't get in good guilds because I can't dedicate my time to play.
21:01.38Dustwhisperwe are stuck on hydross atm
21:01.42Dustwhisperit's our archnemesis
21:01.44Dustwhisperlurker went down fine
21:01.47Dustwhispervoid reaver went fine
21:01.51Dustwhisperbut hydross is a bitch
21:01.56Dustwhispermostly cause our offtanks and warlocks are shit
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21:02.00Dustwhisperwell not shit just spanners
21:02.01durcynyou can hit any of the other three before hydross
21:02.03Chomperswho's easier, lurker or void?
21:02.22durcynthey're about equivalent, annoying trash before an easy boss, but you have to dodge shit
21:02.27Icerothhow's tidewalker compared to lurker or hydross?
21:02.27durcynreaver's probably simpler due to no adds
21:02.45durcyntidewalker also needs decent offtanks and aoe, just not as much resistance
21:02.57subsonici wish I had more time to run the good instances.  I've never seen past blackrock and scholo
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21:03.07durcyni'd say leotheras is easier than hydross, personally
21:03.11durcynmaybe even karathress
21:03.11subsonicoh, I did ZG once.
21:03.24Peoiivhaarr:  Think I might have narrowed it down, though it seems odd, it was working fine pre-optimization...
21:03.29durcynleo's just an amped-up combination of sartura and vek'nilash
21:03.30vhaarrPeoii: hrm
21:03.37Peoiivhaarr: I'm mainly seeing the Spygnome events actually
21:03.41PeoiiLOTS of them
21:04.06durcynvhaarr: concur, i've seen visible whisper replies from people when running spygnome.  i assumed their AceComm was out of date
21:04.12subsonicWhat I hate about WoW, is that I meet people who play yet nobody's on my server.  There should just be free open transfers.
21:04.21Peoiithat, and outta nowhere, I'm seeing lvbm events too (yes, I use lvbm, not bigwigs, kill me later)
21:04.30Dustwhisperreaver is easier than hydross
21:04.32subsonicAnd why can't a pvp player move to a pve player?
21:04.32Dustwhisperso is lurker
21:04.44subsonic*pve server
21:04.48Dustwhisperit can
21:04.50Dustwhisperit's vice verca you cant
21:04.53Dustwhisperpve to pvp
21:04.54ChompersSTUPID storm, we'd probably get lurker down if 1/2 our raid didnt have 2k lag
21:04.55subsonicokay, why not?
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21:05.19subsonicmaybe blizzard fear that the pve people would cry on a pvp server?
21:05.26vhaarrdurcyn: your assumption is correct
21:06.46DustwhisperI cried when i went from pvp to pve
21:06.48Dustwhisperno more ganking
21:06.49Dustwhisperi hated it
21:06.53Dustwhisperstill do!
21:06.55subsonic:)
21:06.57Dustwhispera bit easier to quest
21:07.01Dustwhisperbut it's a bitch to do outdoor bosses
21:07.04Dustwhisperso much easier to grief on pve
21:07.19subsonic"grief"?
21:07.28durcynreminds me of a mud i used to play, you could turn a peaceful character into a pkiller, but not the other way around.. of course, pkillers got stat bonuses levelling up :o
21:07.33Dustwhispermake other players/guilds have a bad time
21:07.34Mikkfuck people over in various ways without risk of retribution
21:07.43Dustwhisperlike purposesly flying into kazzak
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21:08.05durcynthose griefing rules are so stupid too - they treat it differently if it's a level 1 vs a 70 doing the griefing
21:08.07subsonicahh, interesting
21:08.14MorghusThere should be a 30 min debuff on you that disallows you to log off, zone out, go blue, or stealth if you attack from blue :P
21:08.27MorghusOh, and the same if you grief Kazzak >:|
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21:09.40subsonicWhere's a good start to learn about coding a mod?  The wowace tutorials?
21:09.55subsonicUltimately, i just want to add some text to an existing mod.
21:11.20vithosopposite faction dying to kazzak doesn't heal him, i believe
21:11.45abyssichateCan anyone help me with a DogTag string? I'd like to make zone show only when it is different from mine: [Zone:~IsEqual([Zone#player])?Zone]
21:12.08abyssichateIs there something wrong in that one? Well, I guess there is something wrong as it doesn't work :s
21:12.09snurreweewar.com is kinda cool :p
21:12.49Ominousabyssichate, IsNotEqual
21:13.38abyssichatedoesn't ~ negate?
21:14.07OminousIsNotEqual when its a functioney thing
21:14.51abyssichateI see
21:15.17abyssichate[Zone:IsNotEqual([Zone#player])?Zone] doesn't show anyone's zone now, even those that are not in the same place as me
21:15.17vhaarrsubsonic: Start reading indeed.
21:15.41subsonicvhaarr: but is the wowace tutorials the best place to start or somewhere else?
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21:16.09subsonicI'm fluent in php, but lua looks strange without semicolons :)
21:16.17vhaarrYou can use semicolons.
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21:17.56subsonicwowace = good start?
21:18.08vhaarrit's as good as any other
21:18.43subsonicfantastic
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21:19.42Josh_Borkewb vhaar
21:19.50vhaarrthank you
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21:20.42MorghusOh, hi thar vhaarr
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21:21.10Kalman|subsonic: Wowace is a good start; wowwiki's event/API reference will prove useful as well.
21:21.47subsonicKalman|: thanks
21:22.11subsonicI think the way that neuron coded his nQuestLog mod might be confusing me
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21:24.29abyssichateOminous: did you get background colouring for guildies (even when they are in range) to work by any chance?
21:24.45Ominous?
21:24.58Ominousi havent been coding, it only works when they are in range
21:25.13CIA-2203ruinna * r41690 10FuBar_BongosFu/ (BongosFu.lua FuBar_BongosFu.toc README.txt libs/): FuBar_BongosFu: removed TabletLib (unused); enabled "hide plugin" option
21:26.08subsonicbongos is cool, I used to use bibbar for so long
21:26.19sbuzipscript broken?
21:27.24mikmawell try bongos2, it's cooler :)
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21:28.41durcynsbu: buh?  no, it just only runs 3 times an hour
21:28.47durcyn0/20/40
21:29.43sbuhmm yep
21:29.50CIA-2203mallen * r41691 10TradeBar/ (README.txt TradeBar.toc locale-frFR.lua):
21:29.50CIA-22TradeBar:
21:29.50CIA-22- added french translation
21:29.56subsonicActually, I do run bongos2 :)
21:29.57sbubut [22:54:39] (CIA-22): antiarc * r41688 Threat-1.0
21:30.03sbuand its still 41686
21:31.13durcynsbu: give it a few minutes
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21:34.26CIA-2203gagorian * r41692 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
21:34.26CIA-22DrDamage:
21:34.26CIA-22- Changed a few commonly run functions to local
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21:39.47Wogroipl_WAU is getting better and better, now with colors ^^
21:40.27winkillerrecount gives me errors since days. no matter what rev
21:40.34jmei might have to dump windows on here so i can check it out :(
21:40.59durcynmeh, WAU is all over the map lately, i wrote my own script then have local scripts to sync it out to my several wow clients
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21:41.40jmeat one point i was just going to svn co all my mods straight in my wow directory but that was taking forever :/
21:41.43durcynwhich reminds me, does anyone know off the top of their head if the win32 toc parser chokes on forward slashes?
21:41.59durcynjme: that's really high server load, especially with externals
21:42.04jmedurcyn: yep
21:42.07jmedurcyn: that's why i stoped
21:42.10jmestopped
21:43.13IcerothThreat-1.0-41688 (Threat-1.0):768: attempt to call upvalue 'TailoredBinaryCheckSum' (a table value)
21:44.00Peoiihrm, new error with the latest Ace2:  [2007/06/25 14:43:45-180-x1]: AceComm-2.0-41689 (Ace2):2249: unknown distribution: nil
21:44.11CIA-2203durcyn * r41693 10Postal/ (Postal.toc embeds.xml): Postal: use embeds.xml, for great justice.
21:44.28vhaarrPeoii: Right, I don't think that's an AceComm error, it's some addon that uses it that's passing in a nil distribution.
21:44.41Kalman|jme: WAU2 should run on Macs and Linux natively... eventually.
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21:44.58jmeKalman|: cool
21:45.18Peoiivhaarr: hrm, ok, so now to figureo ut which one is doing it...
21:45.32CIA-2203antiarc * r41694 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Tables are not functions. :V
21:46.24Icerothstop writing those bugs, i don't want them!
21:46.33kbhanyone done heroic black morass know if it resets?
21:46.39Peoiivhaarr: Welp, that was easy.
21:46.42kbhor do we have to wait a day after a kill
21:46.46kbherr wipe
21:46.47vhaarrPeoii: "Welp"?
21:46.50Peoiivhaarr: Disabled SpyGnome, error disappeared.
21:46.51pastamancerAntiarc|Work: but sometimes they are!  setmetatable({}, { __call = function () end }) :p
21:46.59vhaarrPeoii: hrm, that's my code, then
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21:47.04vhaarrPeoii: I'll take a look shortly
21:47.04jmekbh: the bosses are replaced with another unlootable boss after a wipe, iirc
21:47.08Antiarc|Workpastamancer: Well, the problem is that I have a function that's basically a table
21:47.12Antiarc|WorkBut i was calling it like a function
21:47.17Antiarc|WorkSo yeah
21:47.24Antiarc|WorkIt's a function that's a table that can't be called as a function
21:47.28ChompersLurker is such a fun fight
21:47.38Chompersthis beats doing kara
21:47.57kbhso do we try to reset it?
21:48.08Mikksure
21:48.13CIA-2203durcyn * r41695 10ImprovedRWF/ (ImprovedRWF.toc embeds.xml): ImprovedRWF: all your libs are belong to embeds.xml
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21:48.38Firikwhat's up with all those embeds.xml
21:48.51jmefor great justice
21:49.08vhaarrFirik: WoW parses embeds.xml faster if you're running disembedded.
21:49.17vhaarrsince it doesn't spew framexml errors for missing references
21:49.40Firikk
21:49.52Firikmakes sense
21:50.02kergoth`it doesnt spew errors for missing files referenced from xml files?
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21:50.12durcynthat and WAU can more easily snarf a single consistent line - the idea being you can sed out ^embeds.xml$ if you're running no-ext
21:50.34durcynpcre is a hell of a thing
21:51.30PrimerI thought sed was posix
21:51.43Mikkit is
21:51.45Cryectyes
21:51.50durcynmeh, same regex pattern
21:52.09Primer<-- pedantic
21:52.09Cryectyou can still use sed fine on windows as well
21:52.18CIA-2203antiarc * r41696 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Seriously, someone install a breathalyzer on my computer or something. I should not be allowed to operate a text editor without at least a 0.4 blood caffeine level.
21:52.20durcynand it could be gnu-sed!
21:52.31jmelol
21:52.39mikmaAntiarc|Work: lol
21:53.25Antiarc|WorkAmusing you, one commit note at a time
21:53.46mikmaneeeext!
21:53.56jmeAntiarc|Work: "Amusing you, one commit note at a time" should have been in a commit note imo
21:53.56pastamanceryou no-ext users won't have to worry about embeds.xml much longer: http://ace.pastey.net/66596
21:54.02sag_ich_nicht~whalestab Antiarc
21:54.02purlACTION stabs Antiarc with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
21:54.17kebinusanThe Supreme Court ruled against a former high school student Monday in the "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" banner case -- a split decision that limits students' free speech rights. :-(
21:55.02pastamancerapparently being a jackass isn't protected speech
21:55.37Antiarc|Work"just wondering if theres any mac users that are able to get ktm to work,by using bootcamp or anything else?"
21:55.52jmeAntiarc|Work: ...
21:55.55Antiarc|Work$20 says he tried to install KTM.exe
21:56.12Mikkgrats on using mac then
21:56.58pastamancerlol
21:57.07abyssichateckknight: what's wrong in [Zone:IsNotEqual([Zone#player])?Zone] ? It should show the [zone] when it differs from yours, but it doesn't seem to work
21:57.17jmehmm
21:58.17vhaarrPeoii: Do you get a deeper stack trace than what you pasted?
21:58.21vhaarrPeoii: if so, I'd like it
22:00.49CIA-2203antiarc * r41697 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to IsGroupOfficer()
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22:04.32CIA-2203archarodim * r41698 10Decursive/localization.cn.lua:
22:04.32CIA-22Decursive:
22:04.32CIA-22- Updated zhCN localization by 孟祥亮
22:04.52vhaarrPeoii: it's working fine here, are you sure you have the latest acecomm revision?
22:05.12Antiarc|Work"Controversial voting machine maker ES&S won't have to disclose its source code after a Florida appeals court has upheld a lower court ruling, saying that an independent audit couldn't be permitted because doing so would violate the company's right to trade secret protection"
22:05.13Antiarc|WorkAarrrrgh.
22:05.54Antiarc|WorkBecause if there's one application I want to make sure is an unreviewed black box, it's the system used to elect the leaders of the free world.
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22:08.09abyssichateOh, what I am trying to do is already in the [Zone] tag itself, but it doesn't look like it works as specified in DogTag docs: The name of the zone of the unit. Can return blank if the unit is nearby.
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22:12.52CIA-2203antiarc * r41699 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to a staggered transaction problem
22:15.18Antiarc|Workholy crap
22:15.23Antiarc|WorkThis may be the nerdiest thing in existance
22:15.24Antiarc|Workhttp://www.marcowens.co.uk.nyud.net:8080/avat.html
22:16.21subsonicseems like a parked domain
22:16.29Cryectdamn slow corel
22:16.40Vangualhaha
22:16.54Vangualreal life third person camera, <3
22:17.11Cryectamsuing
22:17.13subsonicam I missing something?
22:17.22Cryectthe guy has a camera behind his head
22:17.30Cryectand he wears a view screen that he sees through
22:17.38subsonicAre you talking about the link Antiarc posted?
22:17.43Antiarc|Worksubsonic: Your coral cache may have gotten the parked domain
22:17.48Antiarc|WorkI got that when I tried the main domain too
22:17.52Antiarc|WorkBut the cache worked for me
22:17.55subsonichow do I fix?
22:18.03Antiarc|WorkMove to a geographically different location
22:18.09subsonichaha
22:18.15subsonicoh well
22:18.18Antiarc|Work(coral assigns clients to geographically-close nodes)
22:18.26subsonicI'm missing out :(
22:18.43liquiemdugg!
22:19.35vhaarrckknight: aha
22:19.51Antiarc|WorkWait
22:19.56Antiarc|WorkNow my copy isthe parked one
22:19.56Antiarc|Work>_<
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22:20.51NightHawkAtWorkhmm
22:20.54Antiarc|WorkI'll pull it from my disk cache
22:21.48CryectAvatar Machine /
22:21.48CryectThe virtual communities created by online games have provided us with a new medium for social interaction and communication. Avatar Machine is a system which replicates the aesthetics and visuals of third person gaming, allowing the user to view themselves as a virtual character in real space via a head mounted interface. The system potentially allows for a diminished sense of social responsibility, and could lead the user to demo
22:21.50Antiarc|WorkBah
22:21.52Antiarc|WorkNot there
22:21.56CryectI've got it one second
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22:23.40vhaarrPeoii: right, found the problem
22:23.49vhaarrPeoii: it'll be fixed asap
22:26.17Cryecthttp://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/avat/avs.swf
22:26.39Cryecthttp://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/avat/avat.html
22:26.41Cryectthats the text
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22:41.49Funkeh`kael thas down!
22:41.55nevcairielgratz
22:41.56Antiarc|WorkCongrats!
22:41.56JoshBorkegrats
22:42.12nevcairielwe downed alar today and nearly got solarian .. finally on kaelthas soon!
22:42.23Funkeh`nice :)
22:43.18vhaarrgz funk
22:43.44vhaarrwe got lootreaver today -- first time in Eye, second try :P
22:43.54vodrineww 2nd try
22:43.54vhaarrhe needs a buff now that access is unrestricted
22:44.26vodrinso many people with tier5 shoulders, and blues :<
22:46.45trhthey should just make al'dar aggro ^^
22:46.59vhaarryeah, that would also be acceptable
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22:50.04Hjalteckknight, I was just thinking that it would be extremely nice for dense users of Cowtip such as myself, to have a way of having some of the predefined line texts available in a handy way. Maybe a rightclick selection to insert some of the default tags while in the "edit line texts" editor?
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22:54.42Saint-Nwell that was odd
22:55.00Saint-Nsitting out front smoking and some kids appearantly from my neighborhood came by and recognized me
22:55.01AwaaGetting 3-4 error/sec atm; [2007/06/26 00:53:41-30-x110]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:966: attempt to get length of field 'ops' (a nil value)
22:55.13Saint-Nso i got respekt knuckles and a sup niggah from em
22:55.51Saint-Nim white btw ;)
22:56.27BankZDoes anyone know off the top of their head who wrote incubator?
22:56.37Saint-Nshould say in the toc
22:56.37Antiarc|Workshieldb, I think
22:56.53Saint-Nhey anti
22:57.02Saint-Njust noticed the super neatest feature of omen
22:57.15Saint-Nthe "pull yourself out into a bar" option
22:57.36Saint-Nthe big orange threat bar makes me feel tough ;)
22:58.02Chomperswhats the 3rd part of that bar?
22:58.14Chompersyou've got your threat, the other persons threat...and something else
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22:59.03Saint-Noverall
22:59.14Saint-Npercentage base i believe
22:59.21Antiarc|WorkChompers: The part after the other person's is the pull buffer
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22:59.32Chompersoh?
22:59.34cotangentshieldb wrote incubator
22:59.40Antiarc|Work110% in melee range to pull aggro, 130% at range to pull aggro
22:59.45NightHawkAtWorkThe point at which you'll pull agro, basically
22:59.47Chompersaaaaah
22:59.50Antiarc|WorkSo if you have 1k threat, I need 1.1k threat in melee range to pull aggro
22:59.54Antiarc|WorkBasically, fill up the bar, you're tanking it.
23:00.24vhaarrBankZ: shieldb borrowed a lot of code from my old bw_timers mods at first, so maybe I can help
23:00.41Chompersi tanked the lurker for 10 seconds today, a series of dodges kept me alive :P
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23:01.24shieldbthat I did! :)
23:01.29ulicis pastey.net broken, doesn't seem to want to finish loading.
23:01.40Antiarc|WorkSaint-N: Glad you like the pullouts =)
23:01.47Antiarc|WorkThey need more work, but they are functional
23:04.13Saint-Nhehe caught me off gaurd when i first pulled em out too
23:04.22Saint-Nwas trying to move the whole window and out comes only me
23:05.21ulicvhaarr: any reason to not extend ClosetGnome to equip items found in the bank IF you have the bank open
23:05.24ulichttp://ace.pastey.net/66693
23:05.30Saint-Nwoo got my good server working today too so i get a free motorola Q
23:05.39vhaarrulic: not really, no
23:05.43ulicFrom the testing I'm done it works fine either at the bank or not
23:05.51vhaarrulic: just make it only do that if the bank is available
23:06.00CIA-2203grayhoof * r41700 10Proximo/ (Proximo.lua frame.lua localization-enUS.lua): Proximo: Changed sync logic around deaths vs local client scans.
23:06.22Saint-Nyou should make gloset gnome have an auto drink/eat function ;P
23:06.26ChompersGod damnit, the font Antiarc uses on his CowTips disappeared again
23:06.32ulicI've used that exact code away from the bank with no problems, I think it does nothing since it can't find the containers
23:06.36Chompersi really liked that font :S
23:06.36Saint-Nso you can swap to that "setting" and itll noggenfogger you
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23:08.26vhaarrulic: eh, well it's rather simple, | local bagsToScan = NUM_BAG_SLOTS; self:RegisterEvent("BANK_OPENED", function() bagsToScan = NUM_BAG_SLOTS + NUM_BANKBAGSLOTS end); self:RegisterEvent("BANK_CLOSED", function() bagsToScan = NUM_BAG_SLOTS end)|
23:08.40vhaarrput bagsToScan in the file scope
23:09.14vhaarrulic: I don't control GetContainerNumSlots or GetContainerItemLink, for all I know they could be slow
23:09.21vhaarrbetter not to call them more than necessary
23:09.55BankZwhat would you recommend to time my hots and dots?
23:10.04Saint-Nquartz
23:10.32BankZnaw, you gota keep ppl targered for that
23:10.33kaideners0n
23:10.42Saint-Nno you dont
23:10.57BankZwell, it shows for target and focus
23:10.58Saint-Nit makes handy dandy bars for em
23:11.11Saint-Nif thats not enough you could use umm
23:11.16Saint-Nstarts with a C
23:11.20Saint-Numm
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23:11.39Saint-Nim drawing a huge blank here
23:11.46BankZQuatz shows your hots and dots on your target,focus
23:11.49BankZbut not all
23:12.09vhaarrulic: but you need to make sure that it doesn't interfere with CG_Banker
23:12.14vhaarrulic: I think it uses :FindItem
23:12.18BankZchoronmeter or whatever?
23:12.23Saint-Nyeah
23:12.30BankZtried that, its ok
23:12.39Saint-Nyou "could" also mod paladin bars
23:12.40BankZusing HotMan right now
23:12.49BankZIm a druid
23:12.53ulicvhaarr: ok, I'll do some more testing before I commit anything
23:12.56Saint-Nto watch druid shit
23:13.05Saint-Nhence the "mod" part ;P
23:13.18ulicI'm working on another module for CG and just wanted to take advantage of some of the function you already wrote.
23:13.22BankZI just want my hots, dots, not all druid
23:13.39BankZHotMan and Chorometer are the best I found but they are lacking a lot of config options
23:14.11CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r41701 10/branches/StarBurst/ (. StarBurst.lua StarBurst.toc bindings.xml embeds.xml lib/):
23:14.11CIA-22StarBurst: Modular radial menu system
23:14.11CIA-22- Initial import - no functionality yet, only some test cases that aren't working. I just feel safer with some revision control under my feet. >8P
23:14.17kebinusanWow, tasteless: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182812591579.jpg
23:15.45Antiarc|Workhttp://xkcd.com/ <=== win
23:16.08hyperChipmunk>8P
23:16.43Saint-Nwell bankz yer options are use whats available, mod whats available, make yer own ;)
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23:17.03Saint-Nalthough i think thers a druidbars from the guy that made paladin bars
23:17.56trhhttp://xkcd.com/c149.html
23:17.58trhlol
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23:18.13dodgizzlahyperChipmunk: Sprocket reloaded?
23:18.34hyperChipmunkdodgizzla: ?
23:18.41dodgizzlaThat StarBurst thingie
23:19.00Saint-Nhttp://xkcd.com/c279.html <-- best pickup lines evah!
23:19.01hyperChipmunkwhat about it?
23:19.14dodgizzlahyperChipmunk: Will it be something like Sprocket? :D
23:19.23hyperChipmunkheck if i know
23:19.31hyperChipmunknever heard of it
23:20.10dodgizzlaMeh:o
23:20.19dodgizzlaSprocket was the greatest achievement in radial menus
23:20.23Saint-NThat shirt looks good on you, but it would look even better stuffed into the neck of a vodka bottle and flung burning through our office building's window.  Let's fucking do it and never look back.
23:21.10hyperChipmunkwell, we'll see if I can do better then, eh?
23:21.49dodgizzlahyperChipmunk: I put all my hope in you :>
23:22.06Saint-Nwow if that isnt a setup for disappointment.....
23:22.27Saint-Nthats like trusting obi wan with the fate of the rebeillion ;)
23:22.32NightHawkAtWorkhyperChipmunk: If you can just get it working, that'll appease most people :P
23:22.59NightHawkAtWorkSaint-N: man, no one should trust obi-wan with anything. look how he fucked up anakin :P
23:23.08Saint-Nor eatting 4 bean and cheese burritos after midnight!
23:23.19kebinusanIts always a competition I logon and wtf someone had a newer version of omen/threat than me!
23:23.22Saint-NNightHawkAtWork: you've got an extra "up" in there
23:23.35NightHawkAtWorkhah
23:24.08rubikwhoa.. radial menu thingy for assigning raid targets would rock
23:24.18dodgizzlarubik: Sprocket had that!
23:24.24dodgizzlaMan I really miss Sprocket :\
23:24.51CIA-2203funkydude * r41702 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: fix yell, nerf blizzards stealth spelling changes, get a fucking dictionary
23:24.52cotangenthotkeyed raid icons ftw
23:25.46rubikhotkeyd.. blah.. too many things are hotkeyed
23:26.04NightHawkAtWorkhotkeyed raid icons are nice, but i dont usually hotkey more than ~3 common ones.
23:26.35cotangentI just like being able to mark mobs on the fly, like when a colossus splits into two on death
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23:26.59rubiktrue
23:27.14daemoenhey all... got a slight problem with cartographer, came across this place on the forums at wowace :-D
23:27.23ulicI have them all hot keyed, but only use about 3
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23:27.38daemoeni managed to set my scale size, moved the map to the top right, then resized again... now i cant get the map scale window or resize options to correct the mistake
23:27.54cotangentwell I like to set kill order to red->blue, so I end up using most of them
23:27.55daemoenis there a file i can edit, or a direct cli method of overriding cartographer's look'n'feel ?
23:28.17cotangentthen use purple/moon for special stuff like sheep
23:28.28CIA-2203funkydude * r41703 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: flying > phase 5
23:30.07Antiarc|Workdaemoen: You can try nuking your Cartographer saved vars
23:30.09Antiarc|WorkThat may do it
23:30.19daemoenhow do you do that?
23:30.38Antiarc|WorkTry this first
23:30.44Antiarc|Work<PROTECTED>
23:30.46Antiarc|Work<PROTECTED>
23:30.48Antiarc|WorkSee if that does it
23:31.16ChompersAntiarc, do you use the Surfaces addon?
23:31.21Chompersor just sharedmedia
23:31.28Antiarc|WorkJust SharedMedia
23:31.33Funkeh`i think surfaces is defunct now
23:31.50Chompersmaybe having surfaces is making the Emerald font disappear
23:32.13CIA-2203morgalm * r41704 10MorgDKP/ (BidQuery.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc):
23:32.13CIA-22MorgDKP:
23:32.13CIA-22- Fixed bidwar queries not being sent if bids tie.
23:32.14daemoenty Antiarc :)
23:32.18Antiarc|WorkDid that do it?
23:32.21daemoenyep
23:32.23Antiarc|WorkWoot.
23:33.00daemoenwas driving me nuts... i use mirageui compilation, so i didnt feel like nuking all of the settings for everything, im still learning how to customize the stuff
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23:37.04LywellynTelnet?
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23:37.59ckknightvhaarr: aha?
23:38.09Chompersweird, Emblem is in the font dir of SharedMedia, but no addons can see it
23:38.16abyssichateckknight: is it me or [Zone] always shows the Zone I am in and not of my target?
23:38.19Chompersdo i have to do something special for SM to work?
23:38.38ckknightjust you, afaik
23:38.51abyssichateThere are people duelling outside Orgrimmar (durotar) - I pass over the guards so I am in Orgrimmar
23:39.02abyssichatewhen I mouseover the duellants, I should get Durotar, instead, I get Orgrimmar
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23:39.32abyssichateThe same happened in raid, I was in Shattrath while hte rest of the raid was in Hyjal, whenever I mousehovered their frames, I'd get Shattrath City
23:39.38ckknightabyssichate: did you update
23:39.41ckknight?
23:39.42abyssichateI am simply using [Zone] as tag sa well
23:39.45abyssichate*as
23:39.47abyssichateYeah, I did
23:39.54ckknightDogTag too?
23:40.04LywellynAw crap, how'd my DogTag saved vars get nuked? ><
23:40.10Lywellyner, my CowTip
23:40.10abyssichateyes, DogTag too
23:40.16ckknightLywellyn: when I modularized.
23:40.22ckknightalright, gotta go back to work
23:41.04Adirellekebinusan: that shot almost mades me crazy :(
23:41.20Chompershrm, looks like ClearFont is interfering with SM
23:41.23kebinusanAdirelle: its staged
23:41.34kebinusanfrom a prom MADD compaign or osmething
23:43.15kebinusanhmm, I think I wish to try a felguard in a raid
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23:47.12Antiarc|WorkHey, guys, had a thought today -
23:47.44Antiarc|WorkWhat would we do if someone got a wowace SVN account and dropped a bunch of exes-disguised-as-bats (or similar) into a bunch of popular addons?
23:47.52Antiarc|WorkWe'd obviously revert quickly, but the damage would be done.
23:47.58Antiarc|WorkAre there any systems in place to guard against that?
23:48.57CIA-2203funkydude * r41705 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: use a yell trigger for rebirth
23:49.06cynyrgood question...
23:49.38Antiarc|WorkGiven how we've seen keyloggers start masquerading as common addons (the Cartographer one got me a little worried, TBH), I think it's something we should give thought to.
23:49.41cynyridk as i don't even have an account
23:49.54Funkeh`you can't upload exes to the svn
23:50.07Antiarc|WorkFunkeh`: Can you upload a .exe renamed to a .bat?
23:50.21Funkeh`i suppose
23:50.22Antiarc|WorkLots of ace addons have .bat files that facilitate LOD stuff.
23:50.41Antiarc|WorkCartograhper was used to phish people this weekend in a wow forums thread that I saw
23:50.51Antiarc|WorkThey basically replaced the LOD bat with a renamed exe.
23:52.00cynyrand a bat file could be used to do the same thing btw
23:52.14Antiarc|WorkNot really.
23:52.33Antiarc|WorkYou'd have to have pre-existing software on the machine to execute with a .bat
23:52.45cynyruseing calls to IE and the regestry, yes you could..
23:52.57ZealotOnAStickguys, what would be showing "0 cps via lib (4000 bytes avail)" ?
23:53.06Antiarc|WorkHow are you going to access the registry with shell commands?
23:53.07cynyrlooked at one a long long time ago that way
23:53.18cynyrregedit foo
23:53.52cynyrohh hmm looks like the cmd interface has been removed
23:54.34Antiarc|WorkGiven the traffic that wowace does daily, one or two popular compromised addons could cause major damage.
23:54.47MikkZealotOnAStick: ChatThrottleLib
23:54.48*** join/#wowace Wobwork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au)
23:54.49*** mode/#wowace [+v Wobwork] by ChanServ
23:55.07MikkZealotOnAStick: With debugging info enabled, for some reason.... it should never be
23:55.09cynyrwell we all could play on linux, or a mac
23:55.16*** join/#wowace |Kev|_ (i=kismith@81.168.22.42)
23:55.17Antiarc|WorkNeeds of the user first, really.
23:55.35ZealotOnAStickMikk: any way to turn debug off?
23:56.51MikkZealotOnAStick: Edit ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.xml, comment out the <script file=somethingdebugsomething> line.. or delete it
23:57.20Mikkthe real question is how you got it enabled in the first place
23:57.28ZealotOnAStickI didn't.
23:57.33ZealotOnAStickSomeone in my guild apparently has it.
23:57.43Mikkah
23:57.50Mikkit's anduinlothar's fault prolly
23:57.55cynyrAntiarc|Work: i know, i guess the best bet would be limit SVN access, or set it up to use some sort of pubkey only auth if possiable
23:57.57Mikkhe distributed a version with it enabled for 2 days a long time ago
23:58.02AnduinLothar?
23:58.10AnduinLotharoh lol
23:58.32AnduinLotharya, 2 days in DM is apparently an eternity
23:59.16AnduinLotharyou'll have to update the DM embedded ChatThrottleLib or remove it if you have it unembedded

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