| 00:00.00 | ckknight | I want WoW 2.1.3 already |
| 00:00.07 | sbu | so pitbull eats your computer? :/ |
| 00:00.30 | starlon | it's more of a snack |
| 00:00.35 | starlon | than a meal |
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| 00:01.24 | Gnarfoz | yeah I still guess it's my sound card not liking it being overclocked as a side effect of my cpu being overclocked |
| 00:01.33 | beerke | kaiden, gnomish rocket launcher iirc |
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| 00:04.53 | kaiden | beerke, no such item there either |
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| 00:07.09 | Chompers | Antiarc: just had an error from omen: ThreatCLassModuleCore.Lua39:attempt to index field 'Buffmodifiers' |
| 00:07.29 | Cryect | I hate errors in Threat :-p |
| 00:07.37 | Cryect | because that means they get reported to me |
| 00:07.39 | Chompers | omen 41232 Threat 1.0 41459 |
| 00:07.53 | Cryect | and I know its pointless to really report them to Antiarc since he will have them fixed by the time I would tell him |
| 00:08.08 | Antiarc | Cryect: Out of date babble. |
| 00:08.24 | Cryect | You using a new version of babble? |
| 00:08.41 | Cryect | btw you have any place you keep a list of libs or do I need to check omen occasioanlly when you add a new library :-p |
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| 00:08.59 | Antiarc | No, babble was updated and the user is out of date |
| 00:09.04 | Cryect | Ah! |
| 00:09.47 | sbu | hm |
| 00:09.47 | NightHawkTheSane | wow.. this is a great article.. and rather depressing.. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/23/18542/8624 |
| 00:09.50 | sbu | whats visualheal? |
| 00:09.51 | Cryect | In general, when someone tells me something is wrong with threat I figure their libraries are out of date especially since I've not seen a threat error where that wasn't what was at fault |
| 00:10.12 | sbu | Cryect: could you add breaking shackles to bigbrother? |
| 00:10.35 | Cryect | Sure if they are added to dispel messages ;) |
| 00:10.44 | Cryect | I've not tested since 2.1 |
| 00:10.46 | Cryect | so they might be |
| 00:11.00 | sbu | oh hm |
| 00:11.03 | sbu | okay, dont know :) |
| 00:11.11 | Cryect | only polymoprh before 2.1 was generating the message |
| 00:11.27 | Cryect | Recount is setup to track shackle and freezing traps in case blizzard did add it in |
| 00:12.05 | Azurewrath | Antiarc: you've seen my earlier query? |
| 00:12.05 | Antiarc | Azurewrath: Hm, I don't seem to have it |
| 00:12.05 | Antiarc | Re-send? |
| 00:12.19 | Azurewrath | it was like "how about adding an option to Omen to define the color of the own aggro bar? It's easier to find then" ;) |
| 00:12.46 | Cryect | right click on the bar to config it? |
| 00:12.54 | Cryect | or so I hear |
| 00:13.00 | Azurewrath | uhm.. i feel stupid.. gimme a sec. |
| 00:13.20 | Cryect | Antiarc has thought of most things :) |
| 00:13.29 | Cryect | or someone else thought of them and he implemented them at least |
| 00:14.11 | Azurewrath | mhm, cool.. right-click works.. never mind then ;) |
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| 00:18.00 | Antiarc | You can do that on any bar, too |
| 00:18.14 | Azurewrath | jup, i just noticed |
| 00:18.56 | Azurewrath | i love the "guildie xxx has a newer revision" thingie btw. |
| 00:21.10 | Daemona | lo Antiarc i wanted to complain about something with threat ... but i forgot it -.- |
| 00:21.16 | Antiarc | heh |
| 00:21.16 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r86 10/branches/TinyTip/ (20 files in 5 dirs): TinyTip (v1.x): Re-uploaded to google SVN |
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| 00:21.35 | Daemona | aaah |
| 00:21.36 | Dustwhisper | holy crap |
| 00:21.41 | Dustwhisper | im exhausted from laughing |
| 00:21.42 | Daemona | the knockback on gurtogg diesnt get tracked |
| 00:21.46 | Dustwhisper | Hard gay is the funniest thing to ever hit youtube |
| 00:22.22 | ckknight | hey, Scumbag |
| 00:22.32 | ckknight | Scumbag: so what're you making? |
| 00:22.45 | Scumbag | Hello. |
| 00:23.56 | Scumbag | I am a professional computer programmer, but have never used Lua. I want to start making addons and figured I'd start with something fairly simple. I want to create a function callable within WoW that will split a stack of n items into n stacks of one item. |
| 00:23.59 | Azurewrath | mhm.. i'm satisfied with ag_UF and to lazy atm to try out Pitbull.. someone convince me :/ |
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| 00:24.24 | ckknight | Azurewrath: do it or depantsing will commence. |
| 00:24.31 | Cryect | Isn't there addons capable of that already? |
| 00:24.34 | ckknight | Scumbag: ooh... hrm, I'm pretty sure there's an addon out there that does that already |
| 00:24.50 | Azurewrath | ckknight: oh noes! *checks out* |
| 00:24.56 | ckknight | not sure which, though |
| 00:24.58 | Scumbag | Oh, well even if there is, I figure this would be a good way to start learning how to make addons. |
| 00:25.05 | Mikk | ckk: some day you're going to learn what "maintenance nightmare" means with all the addons you're writing :P |
| 00:25.10 | Cryect | nor I, its not the type of thing I really want to do |
| 00:25.28 | ckknight | Mikk: no, because most of the issues appear to arise from my users touching themselves at night. |
| 00:25.28 | Cryect | pfft maintenance!?!?! you mean write a new addon! |
| 00:25.43 | Cryect | I think he means maintenance when a patch comes |
| 00:25.49 | Cryect | and breaks every single one of your addons! |
| 00:25.58 | ckknight | Scumbag: okay, well, wowwiki is the best place to start for this stuff. Check http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 00:26.05 | Cryect | though ideally breaks only some lib thing |
| 00:26.08 | Scumbag | Yeah, been there lots of times. |
| 00:26.13 | ckknight | Scumbag: look under Bags or Containers or something, to see what APIs that WoW provides |
| 00:26.20 | Scumbag | Yup, did that today. |
| 00:26.32 | ckknight | okay... |
| 00:26.41 | ckknight | Scumbag: um, you want to start off with a tutorial? |
| 00:26.47 | ckknight | on basic addon coding |
| 00:26.51 | Scumbag | Came up with this: /script SplitContainerItem(0,1,1);PickupContainerItem(0,2) |
| 00:27.09 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon <-- could be useful |
| 00:27.20 | ckknight | teaches the basics, extremely useful tips. |
| 00:27.27 | Adirelle | kaiden: at bit late, but I'll bet it's this : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23824 |
| 00:27.51 | Scumbag | Thanks a lot. Before I registered with NickServ, I wrote you a message about how the Blizz tutorials on ShowMeTheMoney and HelloWorld were... well not all that helpful. |
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| 00:28.22 | kaiden | Adirelle, i bet that's what they are |
| 00:28.24 | kaiden | thanks |
| 00:28.37 | Adirelle | kaiden: np |
| 00:28.42 | Adirelle | kaiden: btw, they upped them at 2.1 |
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| 00:29.25 | ckknight | Scumbag: those things suck. |
| 00:29.26 | kaiden | what were they before, wowheads stupid see old tooltip feature doesn't actually show the old tooltip it appears |
| 00:29.32 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 00:30.02 | hyperChipmunk | still wfm |
| 00:30.14 | Adirelle | kaiden: tooltip didn't change. before 2.1 you had a 100% chance to fall at end of the run, now it's around, say, 15% |
| 00:30.26 | kaiden | ah ok |
| 00:30.48 | Scumbag | Really? You consider them that bad? Why? |
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| 00:31.11 | hyperChipmunk | yea, the diff is the spell referenced |
| 00:31.15 | Adirelle | now 85% of time you end with a whirlwind-like movment (don't even know if it does damage) |
| 00:31.43 | ckknight | Scumbag: confusing, don't cover what's needed to be covered, etc. |
| 00:31.46 | kaiden | Adirelle, I was most interested in how the druid was using them in that video |
| 00:31.51 | ckknight | Scumbag: also pointless |
| 00:32.00 | kaiden | he was using them to give himself a serious advantage in pvp |
| 00:32.21 | Scumbag | Even so, I will at some point have to bite the bullet and learn Lua and XML. |
| 00:32.30 | Scumbag | Probably tomorrow. |
| 00:32.48 | Thrae | Hmmmmm, I can't make a SVN directory just spit out an external's contents into the directory itself |
| 00:32.53 | Mikk | Scumbag: Skip on XML : |
| 00:33.00 | Mikk | Just create stuff with CreateFrame() |
| 00:33.04 | Mikk | for great justice! |
| 00:33.06 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: export? |
| 00:33.10 | hyperChipmunk | not sure what you're asking |
| 00:33.30 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Basically just have a directory be an external link to another directory |
| 00:33.45 | ckknight | Scumbag: XML isn't needed |
| 00:34.30 | Scumbag | That's good to hear. I don't like XML. |
| 00:34.42 | Scumbag | I don't know why, but I don't like it. :) |
| 00:34.53 | Mikk | noone here does |
| 00:34.56 | ag` | ckknight, about the lockup bug. Clad says it doesn't happen with PerfectRaid... If that's true, wouldn't it be possible to find the cause by looking at what differs between the addons, to find the cause? |
| 00:34.59 | ckknight | XML is like violence |
| 00:35.09 | ckknight | if it isn't working properly, just use more |
| 00:35.20 | Morghus | lol |
| 00:35.37 | Mikk | Scumbag: The really good thing about using CreateFrame() is that you can use in-game Lua editors to tweak your frame's look and feel without having to reload the UI all the bloody time |
| 00:35.51 | Scumbag | WTF!? |
| 00:35.57 | Mikk | Just copy&paste your code to the in-game editor, tweak n run til you're happy, then copy&paste back to your lua file |
| 00:35.57 | Scumbag | Wow, that's interesting. |
| 00:36.08 | ckknight | ag`: well, PitBull no longer locks up |
| 00:36.17 | Scumbag | There's an IDE for Lua inside WoW? |
| 00:36.23 | Mikk | no |
| 00:36.27 | Mikk | just an editor with a run button |
| 00:36.28 | ag` | ckknight, after you did what? Unregister UNIT_NAME_UPDATE, or? |
| 00:36.36 | ckknight | ag`: a few things: |
| 00:36.49 | ckknight | ag`: on PLW, destroy all headers, recreate 5 seconds after PEW |
| 00:37.01 | ckknight | and initially create clusters at AceEvent_FullyInitialized |
| 00:37.06 | Mikk | Scumbag: TinyPad is popular. Omnibus is on files.wowace.com ... there's also some more |
| 00:37.06 | Adirelle | ckknight: nice quote |
| 00:37.10 | Thrae | PLW? PL? |
| 00:37.18 | ag` | ckknight, yeah, that's what I do too |
| 00:37.19 | Mikk | They'll default to text edit mode (like any notepad) but can be set to "Lua" |
| 00:37.23 | ckknight | if you're in the "waiting" process and PRD occurs, create right away |
| 00:37.32 | Thrae | Oh, PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD |
| 00:37.40 | ag` | PRD? |
| 00:37.44 | ckknight | PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 00:37.47 | ckknight | enter combat |
| 00:37.56 | ckknight | so that you can heal your buddies if you d/c in combat |
| 00:38.04 | Mikk | WTB MOR TLAs |
| 00:38.06 | ag` | okay |
| 00:38.12 | Adirelle | Mikk: k |
| 00:38.36 | ag` | does PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED trigger when you login? |
| 00:38.43 | Mikk | yes |
| 00:39.11 | ag` | right, and it allows you to create secure frames |
| 00:39.21 | ag` | yep, that's a good solution |
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| 00:39.59 | ag` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40 |
| 00:40.25 | Azurewrath | haha |
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| 00:41.06 | mikma | rofl |
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| 00:45.43 | Kinkx | Anyone have a nice custom CowTip screenshot? :) |
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| 00:47.11 | ckknight | I think Antiarc had one on the forums |
| 00:47.12 | sbu | Kinkx: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6881.msg113805#msg113805 |
| 00:47.31 | Hjalte | ckknight, i just installed CowTip, but my borders are having some problems. They're not white as i told them to be, they're see-through. Sometimes there's 1 white border of the 4 borders. |
| 00:47.37 | Kinkx | Thanks :) |
| 00:48.00 | ckknight | Hjalte: weird. |
| 00:48.13 | sbu | goodn8 |
| 00:48.15 | ckknight | I'm currently modularizing CowTip, not as hard as I thought it'd be |
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| 00:52.06 | Antiarc | ckknight: does "getmetatable(self)" return a copy of a table or something? |
| 00:52.12 | Antiarc | It seems to be causing memory inflation |
| 00:52.19 | ckknight | no, Antiarc |
| 00:52.23 | Antiarc | I didn't think so. Hrm. |
| 00:52.24 | Antiarc | Ooh. |
| 00:52.27 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 00:53.15 | Antiarc | Just realized why I thought that - it was a red herring |
| 00:53.32 | Wobin | tricksy metatables |
| 00:53.36 | ckknight | what herring? |
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| 00:53.49 | Antiarc | It was jumping into a codepath I'd otherwise disabled for the purposes of trying to find this leak |
| 00:53.56 | Antiarc | But that tells me that's the leak =) |
| 00:54.02 | ckknight | lol. |
| 00:54.57 | Dustwhisper | in a macro, anyway to have the macro identify as a spell so the rangecheck on button will work etc? |
| 00:56.16 | Wobin | oh |
| 00:56.43 | Dustwhisper | lol =D |
| 00:56.57 | hyperChipmunk | #show |
| 00:57.01 | hyperChipmunk | or #showtooltip |
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| 00:57.13 | hyperChipmunk | with the [?] icon |
| 00:57.22 | Wobin | #show |
| 00:58.31 | Wobin | Dustwhisper: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro |
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| 01:00.00 | vithos | Antiarc: are you done with your planned pet threat fixes now (Threat r41459)? Now it looks like pet threat is underestimated |
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| 01:03.34 | Antiarc | vithos: class, pet, pet level? |
| 01:04.28 | Trancer | hm.. omen not loading while it's checked on the addon screen |
| 01:04.40 | Trancer | any ways of seeing why it didn't? didn't get any errors up |
| 01:04.53 | ckknight | Trancer: is "Show Lua Errors" set in the interface option? |
| 01:05.11 | Trancer | display lua errors is turned on, yes |
| 01:05.38 | Trancer | let's disable all others and see what happens |
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| 01:06.56 | Trancer | hmm right, it refuses to load at all, even if being the only addon |
| 01:07.30 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.43 | Trancer | nop |
| 01:07.56 | Trancer | reinstalling (made a copy of the dir) |
| 01:09.40 | Trancer | hmm.. still dead |
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| 01:11.44 | Trancer | hmm |
| 01:11.47 | Trancer | nuked my WTF settings, that helped |
| 01:12.12 | Trancer | and of course I didn't backup those >< |
| 01:15.11 | Trancer | hmm Antiarc, you have not fully implemented FuBarPlugin yet? (At least.. I think it is) |
| 01:15.19 | Trancer | Omen doesn't allow me to do "Hide Plugin" yet |
| 01:15.25 | Trancer | to hide the button from minimap |
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| 01:25.19 | abyssichate | ckknight: did cowtip reset settings with one of the last revisions? |
| 01:25.58 | ckknight | yes. |
| 01:26.01 | ckknight | when I modularized. |
| 01:26.24 | ckknight | adding health bar now.. |
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| 01:28.27 | vithos | Antiarc: sorry, got distracted finding a Servant of Razelikh. 70 Hunter, 70 Cat |
| 01:29.03 | AnduinLothar | latest Ace2Khaos http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Ace2Khaos.zip I dunno who all was actually testing it for me |
| 01:29.58 | abyssichate | ckknight: is it normal that (now that everything is back to default) the lines text is just empty? |
| 01:30.18 | ckknight | ...no |
| 01:30.23 | ckknight | probably my bad |
| 01:30.27 | Antiarc | vithos: Hrm. I'll test it some more |
| 01:30.29 | abyssichate | [2007/06/24 03:23:56-1249-x2]: CowTip-r41476\Text\Text.lua:274: attempt to index field 'lines' (a nil value) |
| 01:30.47 | ckknight | abyssichate: incoming commit |
| 01:30.52 | abyssichate | roger |
| 01:30.55 | vithos | i'm pulling at around 170% |
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| 01:32.21 | ckknight | abyssichate: it's in |
| 01:32.40 | abyssichate | okei, waiting for SVN |
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| 01:35.12 | AnduinLothar | is there an easy way to duplicate a normal bag sorting to a bank bag with Baggins? |
| 01:35.24 | AnduinLothar | or rename/copy bags? |
| 01:35.41 | hyperChipmunk | open SV; copy/paste? |
| 01:36.13 | AnduinLothar | yeah, looks liek that's the easiest way to configure Baggins >.< |
| 01:37.57 | AnduinLothar | least copying is fairly painless compared to the initial setup |
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| 01:38.26 | ckknight | CowTip now has a HealthBar module. |
| 01:38.32 | Codayus | Yay |
| 01:39.50 | ckknight | plztest |
| 01:45.17 | AnduinLothar | heh, the bag sorting by equip location was so tall when added to the bag i had to cut it into 2 bags |
| 01:46.44 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: yay, I killed my client with Recount ^^ |
| 01:46.48 | Gnarfoz | at least it seems stuck now |
| 01:47.33 | Gnarfoz | unchecked integrate with all 3 options checked |
| 01:47.35 | Slayman | anyone of you knows if it's blizzard's fault i cannot equip items from my eng bag directly cuz the item currently worn won't go there? |
| 01:47.47 | Cryect | it nto killed |
| 01:47.56 | Cryect | just sometimes a little slow in Stacked mode |
| 01:47.57 | Gnarfoz | infinite loop? |
| 01:47.59 | Cryect | no |
| 01:47.59 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 01:48.06 | Gnarfoz | I killed it anyway now :< |
| 01:48.18 | Cryect | I need to fix up the code to ensure there is no <1 Pixel bars |
| 01:48.22 | AnduinLothar | sounds liek eng bag's trying to put it into a trade skill bag or soul bag |
| 01:48.34 | Cryect | <1 Pixel Wide Bars causes issue I prolly should treat them as 1 pixel wide |
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| 01:48.41 | Gnarfoz | possibly |
| 01:48.43 | Slayman | na my eng bag means my Toolbox bag |
| 01:48.50 | Gnarfoz | had a complete log from a Shattered Halls run in there |
| 01:49.03 | Slayman | it is a specialty bag of course |
| 01:49.05 | Cryect | I had issues after having PvPed for like 3 hours :-p |
| 01:49.15 | Cryect | there was 82 combatants or so in the list |
| 01:49.47 | Nargiddley | AnduinLothar, unless you really want it sorted into sections. changing the sort method to Type will sort by location as well |
| 01:49.56 | vithos | Antiarc: looks like mend pet could be the problem |
| 01:50.05 | Antiarc | vithos: Oh? How so? |
| 01:50.12 | AnduinLothar | sections was the idea. it's easier to find things |
| 01:50.17 | vithos | pulled at 170% with the only threat sources being mend pet threat and regular pet melee |
| 01:50.41 | ckknight | CowTip now has a PowerBar module. |
| 01:50.45 | ckknight | also, plztest |
| 01:50.49 | duaiwe | mm.. powerbars.. |
| 01:50.52 | duaiwe | gah... |
| 01:50.56 | Antiarc | Hrm. Could be that the pet is generating more than 1 threat per damage. |
| 01:51.15 | Antiarc | vithos: Was your pet Happy? |
| 01:51.16 | Cryect | I would say thats more likely |
| 01:51.27 | vithos | oh, hm. maybe it's cobra reflexes. |
| 01:51.33 | vithos | i'm beast mastery too, for what it's worth |
| 01:51.40 | vithos | and i have 1 point in imp mend pet |
| 01:51.53 | vithos | yes my pet is happy |
| 01:53.08 | Slayman | good night |
| 01:53.24 | Antiarc | Ok. I'll play around with some ideas in that direction then. |
| 01:53.46 | Antiarc | Were you in melee range, or a distance away? |
| 01:54.03 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Baggins_Bank+Bags.jpg |
| 01:54.26 | vithos | i was out of melee range, standing at the distance i normally would to ranged attack |
| 01:54.43 | vithos | i'll test standing in melee range |
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| 01:55.53 | NightHawkTheSane | tcp port 82? wtf :P |
| 01:55.53 | Antiarc | You should pull aggro between 135% and 140% if my hunch is right |
| 01:56.15 | ckknight | guessing happy makes 125% threat? |
| 01:56.35 | AnduinLothar | NightHawkTheSane: it's to get around router settings without monopolizing :80 |
| 01:56.47 | ckknight | vithos: yea, right around 137.5% |
| 01:56.51 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: yeah, i figured. Just obnoxious because it sets off littlesnitch |
| 01:56.57 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 01:57.31 | Antiarc | ckknight: That's my guess. |
| 01:57.52 | ckknight | Antiarc: frankly, it'd make sense |
| 01:57.55 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: position of health bar doesn't seem to be taken into account; placing unit frames at the bottom edge of the screen and positioning health bar on bottom causes the bar to be hidden off the bottom of the screen |
| 01:57.56 | ckknight | though it's like double-taxation |
| 01:58.00 | vithos | pulled at 240%ish in melee range. |
| 01:58.08 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: so change the offset. |
| 01:58.17 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: there's a box and all to help with that |
| 01:58.24 | Antiarc | vithos: how much threat are we talking about? |
| 01:58.49 | hyperChipmunk | I know; just wondered that it may cause other problems with the position not being accounted for |
| 01:59.01 | ckknight | nah, shouldn't be an issue |
| 01:59.12 | hyperChipmunk | figured you ought to know, at leasnt |
| 01:59.29 | vithos | my pet's threat was in the 600's. also, my pet was in the "medium" happiness this time, so that complicates the data |
| 01:59.57 | vithos | it takes forever to generate healing threat as it takes forever for them to damage my pet, so without someone dueling me and hurting my cat i can't really test at high numbers |
| 02:00.03 | hyperChipmunk | also, it looks ugly with no border; it's wider than the tooltip |
| 02:00.52 | Antiarc | You healed 2800 damage before you pulled aggro? o.0 |
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| 02:01.11 | Antiarc | No, wait |
| 02:01.19 | Antiarc | 5600 damage |
| 02:01.55 | vithos | Recount says 3681 healed last fight |
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| 02:02.52 | vithos | which should be slightly more than when i pulled aggro |
| 02:03.24 | Wixi | hmm with Baggins is it possible to bind individual bags to hot keys? i.e the consumables bag in that S/Shot |
| 02:04.58 | vithos | this test, pulled at 174%, 1360 healed vs my pet's 390.0 threat on omen |
| 02:05.04 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: actually, that last comment is functionally harmful too. http://69.14.77.214/ctiphpbar.png |
| 02:05.15 | hyperChipmunk | makes health estimation difficult |
| 02:05.15 | vithos | melee range, pet happiness "medium" |
| 02:05.31 | hyperChipmunk | since the endpoint doesn't correspond to anything |
| 02:05.38 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: yep, I inset it slightly, now it looks much better |
| 02:05.47 | ckknight | update |
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| 02:06.31 | kebinusan | http://www.downfallguild.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3200 heh |
| 02:07.41 | hyperChipmunk | beauty |
| 02:07.56 | hyperChipmunk | both bars are labeled Health Bar in the optionvs |
| 02:08.23 | hyperChipmunk | and it says, "The position of the powerpower bar..." |
| 02:09.26 | ckknight | bah. |
| 02:09.44 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 02:09.50 | Antiarc | vithos: Hrm. Thanks. |
| 02:09.51 | ckknight | fixed |
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| 02:12.10 | hypetech | do you only get one server kill on doomwalker after the Black Temple was released? |
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| 02:13.20 | vithos | hypetech: he respawns every week still, if that's what you mean |
| 02:14.25 | hypetech | Well we got server first doomwalker after BT patch, and we were just told that once he was killed again after BT opened, he never respawns |
| 02:15.36 | ZealotOnAStick | that's incorrect. |
| 02:15.48 | ZealotOnAStick | We've killed him twice since someone was in BT on our server. |
| 02:17.30 | hypetech | I opened a GM ticket. Some event happened after we killed him teh last time, and he just hasn't spawned again yet |
| 02:17.48 | pb_ee1 | kebinusan: rofl |
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| 02:34.48 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: im getting a dewdrop error everytime i mouseover the Profile->Copy from menu in fubar |
| 02:34.58 | abyssichate | something involving a get call? |
| 02:36.32 | ckknight | no error here |
| 02:36.59 | Arrowmaster | [2007/06/23 22:35:50-2035-x13]: FuBar-33424\FuBar.lua:815: Dewdrop-2.0: [nil] Missing "get" directive |
| 02:42.40 | ckknight | fucking a', mikk fucked it up |
| 02:42.53 | ckknight | ~botmail |
| 02:43.03 | abyssichate | yeah, I am getting that too |
| 02:44.01 | Daemona | hmmmm fiddling around with arkinventory ... anyone got a tip on howto sort by certain tooltip attributes? like "Closetgnome Heal" ? ;) |
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| 02:51.37 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/ipod_1405.shtml |
| 02:52.27 | starlon | Is there an ace2 replacement for OmniCC? |
| 02:52.38 | Thrae | starlon: Does OmniCC not work? |
| 02:52.47 | vithos | CooldownCount, though I prefer OmniCC to it |
| 02:52.55 | starlon | No it's working fine. I'm just wondering. |
| 02:53.10 | durcyn | Tuller happens to write fucking beautiful code, Ace or not. |
| 02:53.10 | Thrae | What durcyn said. |
| 02:53.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 02:53.56 | Thrae | starlon: OmniCC is really too small for Ace, hence why there isn't a viable alternative, as OmniCC works fine for its task. |
| 02:55.51 | Keias | For those that are more experienced with DogTag (and cowtip) |
| 02:55.51 | Keias | I'm lost as to how to get my Tip to display a Class color (for name) but Hostility color for NPC |
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| 03:01.04 | Antiarc | ckknight: if you get bored of CowTip, feel free to look through Threat. |
| 03:01.04 | Antiarc | I'm trying to figure out what's causing this inflation and am so far failing |
| 03:01.04 | ckknight | Antiarc: oh yea, I was just about at that point |
| 03:01.04 | ckknight | CowTip's pretty much almost done. |
| 03:01.04 | ckknight | Keias: [IsFriend?ClassColor!HostilityColor] |
| 03:01.04 | Keias | thanks :D |
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| 03:04.12 | ckknight | found the dewdrop bug |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | committed |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | gonna audit Threat-1.0 now, I guess |
| 03:04.12 | Antiarc | ckknight: I just committed some changes. |
| 03:04.12 | Antiarc | So update before you start :) |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | like a minute ago? |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | or what? |
| 03:04.12 | starlon | Just a friendly bit of criticism - the health/power bars in CowTip are spread apart too far. People like the bars for their quick reference. You have to do a little searching to find them when they're so far apart, especially since the tooltips are constantly different sizes. |
| 03:04.12 | Antiarc | Like 15 sec ago |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | blast |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | alright |
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| 03:04.12 | Antiarc | ckknight: As far as I can tell, with Threat enabled, AceLibrary's memory usage creeps up very constantly |
| 03:04.14 | Antiarc | I've checked my new()s and del()s and with my last check-in, they synch, but something is still out of whack |
| 03:04.27 | ckknight | committing a hack |
| 03:04.34 | ckknight | to del() |
| 03:08.00 | Keias | hrm, I'm still not getting this tag correct |
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| 03:09.02 | Keias | [SmartClass?ClassColor][NameRealm][IsFriend?ClassColor!HostileColor] |
| 03:09.15 | Keias | I'm probably missing something simple here like an if statement of sorts :( |
| 03:10.54 | Jaxon | something?tag!othertag is an "if" statement. |
| 03:12.05 | vithos | i think the first one should be [SmartClass:ClassColor] right? not that i really remember what i learned a few weeks ago messing with dogtags |
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| 03:15.09 | ckknight | Antiarc: found a bug ;-) |
| 03:15.12 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 03:15.27 | Keias | vithos, the colon will display my Class before my name, instead of just coloring the name |
| 03:15.31 | ckknight | oh, and another |
| 03:15.39 | Antiarc | Whereabouts? |
| 03:15.51 | ckknight | typo stuff |
| 03:15.57 | ckknight | ThreatClassModuleCore.lua |
| 03:16.10 | ckknight | buffName instead of debuffName |
| 03:16.11 | ckknight | etc. |
| 03:16.13 | ckknight | I'm on it |
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| 03:19.14 | Antiarc | ckknight: Right after I asked that question my client froze |
| 03:19.17 | Antiarc | So I missed anything you said |
| 03:19.57 | ckknight | already committed |
| 03:20.29 | Antiarc | checking it then |
| 03:23.29 | Antiarc | Well, I'm glad for the fixes, but I was hoping you'd magically solved the inflation issue :D |
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| 03:28.24 | ckknight | nah, I don't know where to look |
| 03:28.56 | ckknight | though what you could do is something horribly hackish... |
| 03:28.58 | ckknight | but it'd work |
| 03:29.01 | Antiarc | what's that? |
| 03:29.07 | AnduinLothar | Anyone on got Prat installed that can test the latest Ace2Khaos for me? http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Ace2Khaos.zip I got BigWigs working. Someone was complaining it broke on Prat. |
| 03:29.09 | ckknight | wrap every single function |
| 03:29.13 | Antiarc | I'm okay with ugly horrible hacks for debugging :P |
| 03:29.20 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:29.25 | Cryect | Need a debug version of ace2 for debugging! |
| 03:29.29 | Antiarc | You mean automatically, or...? |
| 03:29.31 | ckknight | no, Cryect |
| 03:29.35 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Ace2Khaos+Khaos.zip if you dont have Khaos |
| 03:29.42 | ckknight | Antiarc: well, once I write it, I'll just make it recursive. |
| 03:29.45 | Cryect | it be nice to track triggerevent sometimes |
| 03:29.47 | Antiarc | ok, greaty |
| 03:30.11 | Cryect | I prolly will just hack my own sometime for figuring out some stuff though |
| 03:30.20 | abyssichate | isn't wrapping functions something you should always do or? |
| 03:32.53 | Antiarc | Cryect: I think that Protractor (or GraphLib) sucks up ungodly amounts of ram somewhere |
| 03:33.10 | Antiarc | Because each time I refresh protractor, AceLibrary's RAM usage jumps up a good bit |
| 03:33.20 | Antiarc | I'm at 2MB of garbage created ATM |
| 03:34.01 | Cryect | Hmmm interesting |
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| 03:34.40 | Antiarc | Each refresh creates about 50kb of garbage |
| 03:34.49 | Antiarc | Aha |
| 03:34.55 | Antiarc | Each pie chart re-draw does it |
| 03:34.58 | Cryect | Prolly some table i keep recreating |
| 03:34.59 | Antiarc | Whenever it changes |
| 03:35.02 | Antiarc | +50kb |
| 03:35.21 | Cryect | I need to add in table reuse into graphlib |
| 03:35.30 | Cryect | Most the static graphs have various issues |
| 03:36.49 | Cryect | bet I can fix pie charts fast though :-p |
| 03:37.24 | Cryect | Oh my I even have the global variable accidently commited I was using for fixing stuff with Filled Graphs earlier |
| 03:38.00 | Antiarc | http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062307203522qe5.jpg <-- development UI of champions |
| 03:38.27 | Cryect | looks about as messy as mine |
| 03:38.34 | Cryect | I also use Expo |
| 03:39.03 | Cryect | helps with tracking down per call memory usage if something calls the right hook |
| 03:39.16 | Antiarc | Ooooooh. |
| 03:39.18 | Cryect | btw I need to finish the next version of protractor that lets you actually declare something besides a global var |
| 03:39.44 | kenlyric | hmmm, how do you get ace to report itself like that? |
| 03:39.47 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: ppl who link jpegs what aren't jpegs need to have their balls cut off |
| 03:39.48 | Cryect | Expo just hooks all the function of a table you give it |
| 03:39.54 | starlon | ace saved my ass. one of my ram sticks fried lastnight. I had to go through and trim my addons... I went mostly ace2, which took me from 100mb to 32mb. Good job guys. I can keep raiding! |
| 03:40.07 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1302/wowscrnshot062307203522qe5.jpg |
| 03:40.10 | Antiarc | Bite me. :P |
| 03:40.45 | haste | I think CPU profiling is disabled. |
| 03:40.46 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not loading a friggin browser just for you |
| 03:41.05 | RogueShadow | I think CPU profiling keeps my cpu from keeping up with the other stuff it was doing. |
| 03:41.14 | RogueShadow | It's not exactly fast |
| 03:41.19 | haste | I play with it on all the time |
| 03:41.24 | Cryect | CPU Profiling isn't something you want enabled for playing with |
| 03:41.28 | hyperChipmunk | do we have something to turn off gryphons? |
| 03:41.32 | haste | because I'm too lazy to reload my UI to enable/disable it |
| 03:41.41 | haste | hyperChipmunk: just write a two line addon for it |
| 03:41.56 | Cryect | I don't know what exactly does it but after a while with CPU profiling I have like 80-90 FPS but every now and then it just stops for like tenth of a second |
| 03:41.59 | RogueShadow | cpu profiling enabled == every few seconds my game freezes for a tenth of a second or so |
| 03:42.00 | Cryect | its just annoying |
| 03:42.03 | hyperChipmunk | yea, well it's my gf |
| 03:42.08 | Cryect | smooth as silk choppy smooth choppy :-p |
| 03:42.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: so just give a name with the word Gnome, and she'll use it :P |
| 03:42.36 | Antiarc | oh, expo is nice |
| 03:42.39 | hyperChipmunk | >9P |
| 03:42.39 | RogueShadow | I have a heck of a time getting good framerates without it enabled. o.O |
| 03:42.44 | hyperChipmunk | expo is your friend |
| 03:42.47 | hyperChipmunk | all hail expo |
| 03:42.51 | RogueShadow | I have lot's of ram tho. so it's gotta be my cpu |
| 03:42.56 | RogueShadow | good video card too |
| 03:43.05 | haste | I only have 1GB RAM |
| 03:43.07 | Cryect | expo isn't always that good though :-p doesn't work when things aren't calling the hooked version |
| 03:43.11 | haste | and I play WoW under Linux D: |
| 03:43.16 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 03:43.24 | haste | no problem with FPS with CPU profiling enabled however |
| 03:43.44 | RogueShadow | 1gb ram. I have. |
| 03:43.54 | RogueShadow | 1.54ghz athlon xp processer. |
| 03:45.59 | Antiarc | Ok, so Expo is showing me as using 0.35kb per SendCommMessage call. |
| 03:45.59 | Antiarc | Is that reliable? |
| 03:45.59 | Antiarc | 47 calls, 350 bytes per. |
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| 03:48.57 | Cryect | its prolly reliable but keep in mind there might have been a high memory usage when you first called it |
| 03:49.11 | Cryect | then use like nothing after that |
| 03:49.39 | kergoth | should make it graph the usage over time ;) |
| 03:49.48 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:51.16 | Wobin | Antiarc: 11.2M of addons? =P |
| 03:51.39 | AnduinLothar | only? |
| 03:51.46 | Wobin | yeah =P |
| 03:51.55 | Wobin | I think he's only running Threat/Omen |
| 03:51.56 | Cryect | he's running pretty minimal ui there |
| 03:52.04 | Cryect | he's got libraries and debugging tools and omen |
| 03:52.05 | Wobin | plus debug |
| 03:52.15 | ckknight | back |
| 03:52.56 | AnduinLothar | i have 10 times that i think |
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| 03:53.40 | AnduinLothar | mmm fubar seems to have over taken auctioneer on mem used |
| 03:53.41 | ckknight | I'm suprised it's 350 bytes |
| 03:53.44 | ckknight | surprised* |
| 03:54.28 | Antiarc | Wobin: lots of debug stuff |
| 03:54.34 | AnduinLothar | Sea Protractor and Fubar are fighting for the 15% CPU slot |
| 03:54.58 | ckknight | I'll try to optimize AceComm... |
| 03:55.00 | Antiarc | ckknight: Surprised it's that low or that high? |
| 03:55.05 | ckknight | that high |
| 03:55.45 | Antiarc | I'm at 60 calls, 0.324 memory/call |
| 03:56.00 | RogueShadow | Hmm. I decided to try CowTip and there's one odd occurance. When I get the tooltip from my player frame from pitbull it the tooltip stays there until I mouseover another tooltip bearing thing in the world. |
| 03:56.21 | Peoii | there are 4 addson I have claiming over 1mb of memory... running unembedded, and standalone libs... Of them? I'm only really shocked by 1. |
| 03:56.40 | Peoii | Didn't think Aloft would take as much as it does... |
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| 03:57.08 | Antiarc | What is DTMR - DoTimer? |
| 03:57.17 | Antiarc | It's a horribly, horribly, horribly chatty little addon |
| 03:57.23 | abyssichate | I hate DoTimer |
| 03:57.34 | abyssichate | it is so buggy, I am glad ClassTimer cmae |
| 03:57.34 | abyssichate | *came |
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| 03:57.56 | abyssichate | RogueShadow: I am getting the same issue as you |
| 03:58.17 | Cryect | lets see if I didn't break pie charts :-p |
| 03:58.19 | AnduinLothar | ckk, any way you could get FuBar to not try and update the MainMenuBar position every few seconds? |
| 03:58.33 | ckknight | that's a Jostle thing |
| 03:58.35 | ckknight | MainMenuBar? |
| 03:58.35 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:58.36 | Peoii | ClassTimer is awesome, I only wish it handled Scorch better. |
| 03:58.38 | ckknight | I'll look into it. |
| 03:58.39 | Cryect | Of course I did |
| 03:59.01 | RogueShadow | abyssichate: I"m glad i'm not the only one |
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| 03:59.39 | Cryect | Forgetting to init a var >_> |
| 03:59.44 | RogueShadow | I used to like DoTimer, but I've been having too many problems with it lately. Even tho it looks better than it used to now. Looks isn't everything. Sad but true |
| 03:59.59 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i have FluidFrames set to counter act all movement on placed frames, so if i place MainMenuBar it has to counter act the movement FuBar generates, so it brings them both up on mem/cpu usage |
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| 04:01.16 | AnduinLothar | since i can't jsut replace hook SetPoint i have to secure hook it and reset the saved position |
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| 04:02.01 | AnduinLothar | not sure exactly what function is being called. might be UIParent_ManageFramePositions() |
| 04:02.20 | AnduinLothar | but it seems to be on a timer and not event driven |
| 04:02.29 | Arrowmaster | didnt think you could call UIParent_ManageFramePositions() |
| 04:02.35 | Arrowmaster | doesnt it taint everything if you do |
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| 04:04.24 | hypetech | ok, we dont' see doomwalker still and we've opened like 25 different tickets with GMs and they're all hinting that he's been moved. Has anybody here seen Doomwalker since Tuesday? |
| 04:05.16 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17711 |
| 04:05.20 | Cryect | ah damn its actually protractor to blame not GraphLib :-p |
| 04:05.53 | Cryect | The function at blame is only adding 161 bytes per call just unfortunately it gets called a hell of a lot per refresh (once per addon) |
| 04:06.32 | Cryect | whatever GraphLib is slightly more optimized which is all good |
| 04:08.51 | hypetech | AnduinLothar: that doesn't tell me much. We've killed him before |
| 04:09.03 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: hes up right now on my server |
| 04:09.37 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: :( weird |
| 04:10.01 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: we've talked to all the horde and alliance guilds on the server that are capable of killing him, and nobody has seen him |
| 04:10.08 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: GMs just keep being shady |
| 04:10.21 | Arrowmaster | gms usually dont know anything |
| 04:10.22 | hypetech | he is always in the same spot right? |
| 04:10.41 | TecnoBrat | seen him since when? |
| 04:11.18 | hypetech | we haven't seen him since tuesday reset |
| 04:11.50 | TecnoBrat | world bosses aren't on set timers, they are on timers based on the population of the realm. we would get world bosses once a week, sometimes not even that .. and then when our server finally got transfers, we would get them twice a week. |
| 04:12.16 | hypetech | but shouldn't they respawn on server reset? |
| 04:12.21 | TecnoBrat | no |
| 04:12.29 | TecnoBrat | they spawn when they feel like it |
| 04:12.38 | hypetech | do you know where I can find details on spawing based on population? |
| 04:12.44 | Peoii | Yea, a reset is not a guarenteed spawn. |
| 04:12.45 | starlon | :s/omni |
| 04:12.56 | Peoii | Because otherwise guilds would race online after it to get the kil |
| 04:13.14 | Cryect | its always been a pretty set time after server resets |
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| 04:13.24 | Cryect | and guilds always raced on when they expected them to pop |
| 04:14.16 | TecnoBrat | ours usually spawn saturday night, or sunday night. |
| 04:14.16 | TecnoBrat | but like I said .. its linked somehow to population |
| 04:14.16 | Cryect | good to hear its slightly different then from the old days |
| 04:14.20 | Cryect | where they spawned like clockwork |
| 04:14.21 | Peoii | Yea, that's definately gotta be true |
| 04:14.23 | hypetech | we killed him on Monday, server was patched and reset tuesday. I would expect it not to spawn after a normal reset maybe, but a patch? |
| 04:14.30 | TecnoBrat | either way, you can't predict them. |
| 04:14.38 | Cryect | yeah you could :-p |
| 04:14.43 | Peoii | We've killed Doomwalker twice in a single week, and I don't think we were the only ones who killed him that week... |
| 04:14.50 | Peoii | But I'm on a very high pop server. |
| 04:14.50 | Cryect | we could predict them within the hour the old world bosses |
| 04:14.51 | TecnoBrat | hypetech ... then .. it should spawn monday ... |
| 04:14.58 | TecnoBrat | following your servers trend |
| 04:15.04 | hypetech | ya,we've killed kazzak twice in a week on a low pop transfer server |
| 04:15.44 | TecnoBrat | Peoii, yea .. we get them twice a week as well |
| 04:16.16 | TecnoBrat | I'm on Korgath US, which there is too many guilds capable of killing them :P |
| 04:16.27 | Peoii | lol |
| 04:16.32 | Peoii | Cenarius-US, same issue ;) |
| 04:17.03 | TecnoBrat | Death and Taxes, Drama, TFO, Dread, Overrated .. nuff said .. haha |
| 04:17.47 | Peoii | what we don't have is a horde presence.... wtb world pvp :/ |
| 04:19.44 | TecnoBrat | We have 3 horde guilds that have cleared SSC, and 1 more that is on Vashj |
| 04:19.59 | Peoii | we have 1 horde guild in SSC. |
| 04:20.08 | Peoii | that's it ;) |
| 04:20.24 | TecnoBrat | And 3 alliance that have cleared SSC and The Eye |
| 04:20.53 | TecnoBrat | Oh shit, DnT cleared Hyjal |
| 04:21.45 | Keias | Peoii, I left a server that had the opposite problem |
| 04:21.54 | Keias | No alliance at all :( |
| 04:22.21 | Peoii | They should join that server and Cenarius then |
| 04:22.26 | Peoii | It'd be glorious! |
| 04:24.23 | Peoii | I think the only guilds on my server people might recognize are... hrm.... Afterlife, Eventide, Heist, and Dawn eternal... |
| 04:26.00 | Keias | ckknight, is there going to be an option to hide power bars on CowTip? |
| 04:26.00 | ckknight | not yet |
| 04:26.00 | ckknight | I'll add it in a bit |
| 04:26.00 | Keias | kk, just making sure I wasn't missing anything |
| 04:27.11 | Antiarc | So it turns out that telling Expo to profile _G makes your UI lock up |
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| 04:27.59 | starlon | didn't mine |
| 04:28.17 | ckknight | alright, I got AceComm's Encode and Decode to be both faster and use less memory... |
| 04:28.22 | ckknight | now to mess with Serialize... |
| 04:29.00 | Fin | sylvanaar: you know what would be neat? |
| 04:29.09 | sylvanaar | what |
| 04:29.22 | Fin | a way to reload individual Prat modules |
| 04:29.33 | Fin | (neat for development at least :) |
| 04:29.43 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 04:29.50 | sylvanaar | toggle on and off? |
| 04:30.05 | Fin | like, re-read the module code |
| 04:30.12 | Antiarc | ckknight: string:match() seems to be inflating memory for me. Any idea why that'd be? |
| 04:30.14 | sylvanaar | there is |
| 04:30.16 | durcyn | you do realize that requires a reloadui |
| 04:30.23 | ckknight | Antiarc: odd... |
| 04:30.25 | Fin | I did not know that, sylvanaar |
| 04:30.34 | ckknight | Antiarc: well, it does return the result, which causes a string creation; |
| 04:30.52 | Antiarc | It shouldn't be generating this much memory |
| 04:31.01 | Antiarc | http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/59/wowscrnshot062307211943de7.jpg |
| 04:31.04 | Fin | durcyn: have you read sylvanaar's suggestions in the forum? |
| 04:31.23 | Antiarc | CHAT_MSG_ADDON has been stripped down to: |
| 04:31.23 | Antiarc | local command, data = message:match("^(%a+) ?(.*)$") |
| 04:31.43 | Antiarc | With the match commented out, the method doesn't even register on the profiler |
| 04:31.49 | Antiarc | With it, it takes first place rather quickly |
| 04:32.16 | Fin | Antiarc: I blame the .* |
| 04:32.18 | durcyn | Fin: forum signal to noise ratio is shitty lately |
| 04:32.30 | Fin | you don't need the $ at the end either, .* will match til the end |
| 04:33.16 | sylvanaar | Prat_Modules_AutoLoD loads all the modules again, but will cause errors usually because of duplicate registrations with babble etc. |
| 04:34.22 | sylvanaar | there is probably a better way to do what you want to do though |
| 04:35.49 | sylvanaar | if you are just trying to edit lua code, you can edit in game using something like omnibus |
| 04:36.22 | Fin | not that it's Omnibus' fault, but editing in-game sucks donkey balls |
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| 04:36.58 | Fin | not entirely surprising, I guess they didn't really design it as a massively multiplayer online notepad |
| 04:37.53 | Fin | I don't think that would sell as well |
| 04:38.11 | Cryect | MMO Notepad with 3d chat functionality! |
| 04:39.07 | Fin | Massively Multiplayer Online Addon Development Environment |
| 04:39.26 | Fin | writing addons for addons in an addon |
| 04:40.36 | Cryect | Antiarc: alright I fixed the memory issues with protractor |
| 04:41.25 | Kinkx | Recount doesn't have a Fubar plugin? |
| 04:41.38 | Cryect | I don't use Fubar personally hence no not yet :-p |
| 04:43.05 | Kinkx | Ah ok :) |
| 04:44.05 | Antiarc | Fin: Removing the $ completely killed that function's memory usage. |
| 04:44.06 | Antiarc | O.0 |
| 04:44.08 | Antiarc | Go figure. |
| 04:44.16 | Antiarc | Oh, wait |
| 04:44.17 | Antiarc | I spoke too soon |
| 04:44.20 | Antiarc | But it's a lot lower |
| 04:45.19 | Kinkx | Recount is awesome, it's just that I wish it has some kind of minimized display, like a fubar plugin or something like that :) |
| 04:45.45 | Cryect | yeah, I will be setting it up to at least autominimize during combat at least shortly |
| 04:45.47 | hyperChipmunk | Kinkx: I have an idea for that |
| 04:46.03 | Cryect | it will get a fubar plugin though when I lookup how to write one :p |
| 04:46.09 | hyperChipmunk | i'm trying to figure out a way to put addon windows, too, as a radial menu |
| 04:46.12 | Cryect | just not in a rush for something I wouldn't use |
| 04:46.56 | hyperChipmunk | so you can pop out the radial menu and click on an addon frame to show it |
| 04:46.59 | Kinkx | Okie, Cool :) |
| 04:47.07 | hyperChipmunk | and keep it hidden otherwise |
| 04:48.14 | ckknight | I'm always amazed at when I can come back to old code and optimize it much more than I originally thought |
| 04:48.27 | Lyfe | anyone familiar with Wow UI Updater (not to be confused with Wow Ace Updater)? |
| 04:51.58 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 04:51.59 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 04:57.15 | Antiarc | ckknight: should I update AceComm? |
| 04:57.20 | ckknight | not yet |
| 04:57.26 | ckknight | still going through it |
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| 05:05.28 | nymbia | 0 |
| 05:05.40 | NightHawkTheSane | 1 |
| 05:05.51 | nymbia | why no i didnt just lean on my keyboard |
| 05:05.54 | nymbia | >.> |
| 05:06.10 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 05:09.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010672.html |
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| 05:17.29 | Antiarc | Dear lord |
| 05:17.40 | Antiarc | I think I just found whatever it was that was killing abyssichate yesterday |
| 05:17.56 | Antiarc | My RAM usage from CHAT_MSG_ADDON just increased by two orders of magnitide |
| 05:17.59 | Antiarc | magnitude* |
| 05:19.39 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.46 | hyperChipmunk | expo ftw? |
| 05:19.55 | Wobin | ftl? |
| 05:20.10 | hyperChipmunk | expo always tells me how much my code sux |
| 05:20.20 | hyperChipmunk | and it's always "really very a lot" >8\ |
| 05:23.53 | abyssichate | Antiarc: nice one! |
| 05:24.37 | abyssichate | what is it exactly? |
| 05:24.43 | Antiarc | abyssichate: Looks like the KTM support |
| 05:24.50 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 05:24.52 | NightHawkTheSane | bahahaha |
| 05:24.54 | Wobin | >< |
| 05:25.02 | Antiarc | I'm not sure what messages triggered it, but I looked down, looked back up, and it was 300kb higher |
| 05:25.05 | abyssichate | TTK or ktm->omen? |
| 05:25.12 | _art3mis | wheres the flame in azshara? |
| 05:25.31 | Cryect | Haha finally figured out what was gcuasing my FPS issues with profiling on >_> |
| 05:25.33 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: 41,43, or thereabouts |
| 05:25.34 | Cryect | its PerfFU |
| 05:25.46 | art3mis | groovy thanks |
| 05:25.47 | Cryect | Everytime it polls addon usage I lag |
| 05:26.01 | Antiarc | abyssichate: Adirelle's new extracted KTM support that was committed last night |
| 05:26.04 | Cryect | and its 12.1% of CPU Usage of all Global Functions :-p |
| 05:26.12 | abyssichate | oh, I understand |
| 05:26.14 | Cryect | closing in on the 30% of pcall |
| 05:26.36 | Cryect | it really needs to not update when I don't have the mouse over perffu and looking at the performance |
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| 05:27.57 | sag_ich_nicht | there an addon like cooldowncount that shows cooldowns on Bartender2 buttons? |
| 05:28.07 | sag_ich_nicht | *bartender3 |
| 05:28.23 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc, I'm trying to get the sig generator working on my server. Do you have a moment to help? |
| 05:29.35 | Antiarc | DesertDwarf: Sure |
| 05:29.58 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc: My problem is that create_sig.php is storing the data in the sig table on the cache db, but nothing is getting stored on the regular table. It's empty, empty, empty. :-) (There is a sig table there.) |
| 05:30.11 | vithos | sag_ich_nicht: cooldowncount does, doesn't it? but omnicc shows m:ss format so i use it instead |
| 05:30.18 | Antiarc | What do you mean "regular table"? |
| 05:30.33 | DesertDwarf | I have two tables. |
| 05:30.40 | DesertDwarf | Sorry, two db's. |
| 05:31.35 | DesertDwarf | $db_db = "armory"; |
| 05:31.43 | DesertDwarf | $db_db = "armorycache"; |
| 05:31.47 | ckknight | ooh, and now to finally test my AceComm hax |
| 05:31.53 | Antiarc | You're using the same variable name for 'em both |
| 05:31.58 | Antiarc | So the first gets overridden |
| 05:32.00 | Antiarc | ckknight: Committed? |
| 05:32.20 | DesertDwarf | Sorry. The second one was $cache_db_db = "armorycache"; |
| 05:32.30 | DesertDwarf | (That's what I get for pasting/editing.) |
| 05:32.33 | ckknight | Antiarc: oh no |
| 05:32.54 | Antiarc | DesertDwarf: Any errors pop up? |
| 05:33.39 | DesertDwarf | Just in the image saying the "Server crashed and we lost the sig DB. (etc.)" |
| 05:33.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:30] <vithos> sag_ich_nicht: cooldowncount does, doesn't it? but omnicc shows m:ss format so i use it instead <--not happening for me |
| 05:35.12 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 05:35.18 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 05:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | never mind |
| 05:35.20 | sag_ich_nicht | works now |
| 05:35.25 | sag_ich_nicht | was a stupid config error |
| 05:35.31 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc: Let me set up an FTP account for you to access the stuff? |
| 05:36.16 | Antiarc | Sure, if you like |
| 05:36.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: auto-shwoing the omen frame/activating omen when joining a group doesn't seem to work properly |
| 05:36.56 | Wobin | >< |
| 05:37.00 | Wobin | I turned off profiling |
| 05:37.04 | sag_ich_nicht | s/autoshwoing/auto-showing/ |
| 05:37.05 | Wobin | as I realised I had it on |
| 05:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 05:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | typo |
| 05:37.09 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 05:37.11 | Wobin | and my fps went to 110 in IF =P |
| 05:37.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
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| 05:38.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd have a lot more fps if blizzard would fix the damn dual core bug |
| 05:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 05:38.20 | Cryect | whats the dual core bug? |
| 05:38.46 | art3mis | that it actually doesnt use dual core ;P |
| 05:39.04 | Cryect | thats not a bug :-p nor do I want wow using dual core |
| 05:39.13 | art3mis | i do ;P |
| 05:39.25 | art3mis | the whole idea of one core to run them all makes me sad |
| 05:39.36 | art3mis | although i got this thingy that shows core speeds |
| 05:39.45 | art3mis | and appearantly ive got 2 1ghz cores |
| 05:39.52 | ckknight | Antiarc: incoming commit |
| 05:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:38] <Cryect> whats the dual core bug? <--limits the fps to 60 |
| 05:40.03 | Antiarc | wewtz |
| 05:40.16 | Cryect | sag_ich_nicht: huh then why the hell do I get way more than 60 fps? |
| 05:40.28 | Cryect | I think thats called vsync :-p |
| 05:40.28 | ckknight | Antiarc: test with Expo, btw, see how many bytes it takes |
| 05:40.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Cryect: dunno, you have a pentium? |
| 05:40.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Cryect: with vsync off |
| 05:40.40 | sag_ich_nicht | you cookie |
| 05:40.41 | Cryect | no using an amd x2 |
| 05:40.48 | sag_ich_nicht | well then that's strange |
| 05:40.49 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 05:41.05 | Cryect | right now I'm sitting at 84 fps |
| 05:41.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 1266/2048MB (61.82%) RAM free. |
| 05:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, Sound Blaster Audigy, and 425.35 GB of 596.17 GB available on 1 drive(s). |
| 05:41.35 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 05:42.02 | Cryect | I'm using a 4400+ so yeah you sure thats your issue? |
| 05:42.03 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:42.13 | Cryect | and don't have like vsync accidently forced on in driver settings |
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| 05:42.24 | sag_ich_nicht | nope :P |
| 05:42.30 | art3mis | i turned off triple buffer and it made it not suck in winders mode |
| 05:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | set to application decide, default on |
| 05:43.47 | NightHawkTheSane | http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/26/top-10-worst-domain-names/ |
| 05:43.47 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't really matter either |
| 05:43.58 | sag_ich_nicht | since i play with vsync on anyway |
| 05:44.00 | sag_ich_nicht | LCD :P |
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| 05:44.52 | Cryect | what does LCD have to do with vsync on? it still sends it line by line to the monitor |
| 05:44.59 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc: You getting my private messages? |
| 05:45.11 | NightHawkTheSane | er, vsync really only applies to crts, yeah? |
| 05:45.16 | Cryect | tearing looks the same on LCD's and CRT's |
| 05:45.18 | Cryect | no |
| 05:45.32 | Cryect | vsync is just so you don't have 2 frames drawn on your monitor at once |
| 05:45.48 | Cryect | it will flip halfway through a frame potentially if its off and you are only using double buffer |
| 05:45.54 | Cryect | Or somewhere |
| 05:46.04 | Cryect | and where it flips you will get a tearing artifact |
| 05:46.38 | theoddone33 | lots of games now are flipping outside vsync |
| 05:46.40 | theoddone33 | looks bad |
| 05:46.45 | theoddone33 | console games |
| 05:46.46 | Cryect | Or if you were using old vga cards if you wrote to the display buffer during a scan you can have partially bytes written which look funky |
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| 05:47.02 | Cryect | but thats single buffer mode :-p |
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| 05:47.15 | Cryect | Good old fun of trying to do all your stuff inbetween H-Scan and v-Scan |
| 05:47.25 | theoddone33 | not sure how pc games do things |
| 05:47.47 | Cryect | Well they about all use double buffer since plenty of RAM |
| 05:47.52 | Kinkx | If you have 100 fps on a LCD with a 60hz refresh rate, then you don't really have 100 frames per second do you? |
| 05:48.01 | theoddone33 | on NTSC you're locked to 60/30/25/etc if you flip inside vsyn |
| 05:48.02 | theoddone33 | c |
| 05:48.05 | Cryect | and then flip it asap if vsync is off or wait till next fram if vsync is on |
| 05:48.13 | Cryect | if you use triple buffer |
| 05:48.21 | Cryect | you can get more FPS than that with vsync |
| 05:48.27 | theoddone33 | ah, right |
| 05:48.27 | Cryect | frame differences that is |
| 05:48.30 | theoddone33 | we do that on wii |
| 05:48.31 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 05:48.32 | Cryect | but its ram expensive |
| 05:49.06 | Cryect | PC who cares about the ram its more that what you are seeing is 2 frames delayed |
| 05:50.10 | theoddone33 | I love getting into fights on gamedev.net forums.... |
| 05:50.13 | theoddone33 | offtopic, heh |
| 05:50.23 | Cryect | haha |
| 05:51.02 | theoddone33 | it's risky because there are people on there who know what they're talking about |
| 05:52.53 | art3mis | i love my new video card it makes me happy in the pants |
| 05:53.27 | theoddone33 | I need to figure out why WoW runs so slow on mine now |
| 05:53.38 | theoddone33 | when I first got this computer I was hitting 50fps a lot in org |
| 05:53.39 | art3mis | because it hates you? |
| 05:53.50 | theoddone33 | now I'm lucky to get above 30 |
| 05:54.00 | art3mis | wipe yer wdb folder ;P |
| 05:54.05 | Cryect | more people in Org? :-p |
| 05:54.07 | art3mis | let it recache it all |
| 05:54.13 | theoddone33 | more people in shatt |
| 05:54.16 | theoddone33 | hm |
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| 05:54.28 | art3mis | i just wiped my config.wtf and wdb |
| 05:54.30 | theoddone33 | wiping my wdb will lose me my awesome marsbar setup that took like a week |
| 05:54.36 | art3mis | and poof my lameness was all cleared up |
| 05:54.38 | Cryect | no it won't |
| 05:54.41 | theoddone33 | no? |
| 05:54.45 | Cryect | wdb has nothing to do with config |
| 05:54.46 | art3mis | nope |
| 05:54.47 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 05:54.48 | Cryect | thats wtf |
| 05:54.51 | theoddone33 | oh |
| 05:55.00 | art3mis | and for hardwre fixing you oly need to wipe yer config.wtf |
| 05:55.05 | Cryect | wdb is cache of server database info |
| 05:55.07 | art3mis | not the whole dir |
| 05:55.56 | theoddone33 | itemcache is 3.1M |
| 05:55.59 | art3mis | ive actually noticed that it loads faster if you clear the wdb every patch day |
| 05:56.00 | theoddone33 | the rest are all tiny |
| 05:56.05 | art3mis | not really sure why |
| 05:56.18 | theoddone33 | what's config.wtf then? |
| 05:56.24 | Cryect | your cvars |
| 05:56.26 | art3mis | where all yer settings are |
| 05:56.37 | art3mis | gl res zoom tick boxes etc |
| 05:56.48 | Cryect | stuff like resolution and interface configs you can set in wow options |
| 05:56.51 | art3mis | if you clear tht it resets it all to basics |
| 05:57.04 | theoddone33 | I see |
| 05:57.11 | art3mis | and lets you start fresh without stuff like gl running when i shouldnt be etc |
| 05:57.21 | art3mis | sorta like a fresh install |
| 05:58.07 | theoddone33 | see I figured the problem was too many mods installed |
| 05:58.19 | Cryect | try deactivating all your mods |
| 05:58.23 | Cryect | and see how many fps you get then |
| 05:58.34 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 05:58.42 | theoddone33 | that's so obvious I'm really sad I didn't think of it |
| 05:59.14 | theoddone33 | after wiping WDB I'm flipping between 30 and 60 in terrokar |
| 05:59.15 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 05:59.56 | art3mis | is that good or bad? |
| 06:00.02 | theoddone33 | seems a lot smoother |
| 06:00.46 | art3mis | the only major downside to good fps is it feels like you're travelling slower ;) |
| 06:00.56 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 06:00.58 | theoddone33 | that's true |
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| 06:01.14 | theoddone33 | hmm shatt is still a mess |
| 06:01.35 | Cryect | The good thing is it doesn't feel as much like the sun of azeroth is a strobe light |
| 06:01.35 | Arrowmaster | if your going between 30 and 60 fps then disable vsync |
| 06:03.08 | Adirelle | Antiarc: ping ? |
| 06:04.23 | theoddone33 | hah, disabling all my addons definitely made my load time skyrocket |
| 06:04.41 | theoddone33 | er |
| 06:04.46 | theoddone33 | un-skyrocket? |
| 06:04.50 | theoddone33 | "get faster" |
| 06:07.04 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Pong |
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| 06:07.57 | Adirelle | Antiarc: a bit late, but nevermind : I made Omen "LoadManaged" by AddonLoader. It always loaded by default by one can overrides this with AddonLoader. |
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| 06:08.45 | Adirelle | If you're not using AddonLoader, you won't see any difference. If you don't override Omen loading condition in AddonLoader, you won't see any difference. |
| 06:09.18 | Adirelle | Personnally, I load Omen on combat, it reduces a bit my initial loading time. |
| 06:09.48 | Antiarc | okay, cool |
| 06:10.14 | starlon | threat's loading time's getting worse >.> |
| 06:10.36 | starlon | I just stripped it down again. Got 0.917 |
| 06:11.23 | starlon | prat's the worst though |
| 06:13.28 | Antiarc | Wonder what it is that's making it take so long, relatively. |
| 06:13.56 | Tain | The hamsters take a while to get the wheel going. |
| 06:14.04 | Cryect | whats it do on init? |
| 06:14.05 | starlon | That must be it. |
| 06:14.19 | theoddone33 | I have 34M of addons ... :( |
| 06:14.40 | starlon | I have 32, reduced from 100, thanks to ace2 |
| 06:14.47 | Antiarc | Well, bunches of stuff. It basically creates a bunch of functions that are then run to create the threat lib itself. |
| 06:14.57 | starlon | I've been trimming all day. |
| 06:15.29 | Cryect | well if you are dynamically creating a bunch of functions thats prolly why |
| 06:15.36 | haste | I have 2.69MB of addons D: |
| 06:16.33 | starlon | The only time loading time really matters to me is when I dc from a raid. o.o |
| 06:17.27 | starlon | cause then I have the raid leader stressing over why I haven't loaded everything yet |
| 06:17.28 | Kinkx | haste - have any screenshots of your UI? :) |
| 06:17.37 | haste | Kinkx: give me a sec |
| 06:17.46 | Kinkx | Cool :) |
| 06:17.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Kinkx: log in to wow, press alt-z, that's more or less it. ;) |
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| 06:18.06 | Kinkx | haha ;D |
| 06:18.08 | Cryect | except with oCB |
| 06:18.15 | Cryect | he needs his cast bar |
| 06:20.06 | NightHawkTheSane | so i've been watching heroes. |
| 06:20.15 | haste | http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/temp/WoWScrnShot_062407_081627.jpg << close enough NightHawkTheSane |
| 06:20.26 | Peoii | blarg... [007/06/23 23:20:08-169-x1]: AceComm-2.0-41504 (Ace2):1088: attempt to concatenate local 'dist' (a nil value) --- |
| 06:20.39 | Kinkx | Thanks :) |
| 06:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | haste: i still have no idea how you can handle that. |
| 06:20.42 | Kinkx | Haha, nice :) |
| 06:21.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyway, as I was saying. Heroes is good, but it's all way to contrived. |
| 06:21.14 | Kinkx | How do you handle cooldowns on abilities and such? |
| 06:21.53 | starlon | what does your raid ui look like? o.O |
| 06:22.15 | Cryect | he's a rogue |
| 06:22.17 | Cryect | what raid ui |
| 06:22.29 | haste | Cryect: I used the same UI on my shaman and warlock |
| 06:22.40 | Cryect | you heal on your shaman? |
| 06:22.43 | starlon | well I'm a rogue in plate, but I have a raid ui |
| 06:22.53 | Wobin | hm, since when is Quartz LoD? |
| 06:23.09 | haste | Cryect: I healed, haven't touched my shaman since Naxx |
| 06:23.20 | Cryect | ah |
| 06:23.41 | Cryect | heh was thinking I kinda want something for healing but yeah don't need anything for leveling |
| 06:24.20 | Peoii | ckknight: LoL |
| 06:24.34 | ckknight | Peoii: ? |
| 06:24.41 | Peoii | ckknight: As much as I appreciate it... "Screen: Reft" prolly isn't what was intended in CowTip |
| 06:24.49 | ckknight | lol. |
| 06:25.16 | ckknight | alright, fixed |
| 06:25.27 | Peoii | sorry, that gave me a good laugh |
| 06:25.36 | eXemplar | me ruv ruu rong tiem |
| 06:25.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: thats good engrish ;) |
| 06:26.19 | Cryect | Whats wrong screen reft, I like using TOPREFT personally though! |
| 06:27.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 06:27.31 | Kinkx | I wish I could use a minimalistic UI as well, but I don't see how I could play efficiently without having some other kind of way to providing me with the information I need |
| 06:27.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Kinkx same here |
| 06:27.47 | sag_ich_nicht | although i redesigned a bit of my UI today |
| 06:27.48 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 06:27.59 | Peoii | Kinkx: It's easy, if you play a class like a rogue who needs very little. |
| 06:28.02 | Tain | It depends entirely on the class you play as to how much info you need. |
| 06:28.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i am a raidleader and a paladin |
| 06:28.16 | ckknight | Antiarc: another commit, memory should be smaller with it |
| 06:28.17 | sag_ich_nicht | retribution even |
| 06:28.19 | Peoii | On the other hand, if you play a class like a mage/lock/etc, we've got a crapload of stuff at our disposal... :/ |
| 06:28.59 | Peoii | my main 4 characters are a shaman, mage, warlock, and druid... no space saving for me kkthx |
| 06:29.20 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 06:29.45 | Tain | I've sworn off of playing classes that have to care about anyone else's status. |
| 06:30.12 | Peoii | Tain: Why do you think I love my warlock so much? ;) |
| 06:30.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: so... thats.. what, rogue? |
| 06:30.32 | Peoii | even though my main is a mage... I <3 my lock for just goofin off |
| 06:30.54 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: my money's on hunter. |
| 06:31.19 | Tain | I had to quit playing a Hunter. |
| 06:31.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ret pala & raidleader is even worse, you have to have a fuckton of chatwindows so you don't get spammed to death(wtb telltrack fix, no, WIM isn't better, go away), stats for error analysis, track everyone and their sons damn buffs & debuffs as well as health & aggro because they are too stupid to check themself etc. |
| 06:31.21 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 06:31.42 | Tain | I had Pokemon syndrome with a Hunter. I wanted to catch 'em all. |
| 06:31.45 | sag_ich_nicht | AND then you have to watch what you do yourself as well, and spotheal in case it's needed |
| 06:31.46 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 06:32.05 | durcyn | sag_ich_nicht: sounds like you need to un-brainfuck your other raidmembers. |
| 06:32.16 | sag_ich_nicht | and pull aggro from that dumb moonkin >.> |
| 06:32.25 | sag_ich_nicht | durcyn: more like, i need to get my raid together |
| 06:32.28 | sag_ich_nicht | +back |
| 06:32.34 | sag_ich_nicht | because i kicked a lot of people |
| 06:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | our rogue was a dick |
| 06:33.04 | sag_ich_nicht | was friends with our MT and our holy priest |
| 06:33.06 | sag_ich_nicht | well go figure |
| 06:33.18 | Tain | I'm an exceptional Rogue. |
| 06:33.27 | art3mis | wow you guys have a holy priest? |
| 06:33.32 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 06:33.38 | art3mis | how novel |
| 06:33.50 | art3mis | novelle? |
| 06:33.58 | Peoii | they have imp spirit right? |
| 06:33.59 | art3mis | qwirky |
| 06:34.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd prefer disc but then there aren't really many disc priests around |
| 06:34.03 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 06:34.06 | Peoii | cause that's the only reason we keep a holy priest around :P |
| 06:34.09 | durcyn | only holy priest i've seen in the past three months was specced for holy dps |
| 06:34.11 | art3mis | hehe peo |
| 06:34.28 | Peoii | enough points in disc for imp spirit, and then the rest in holy. grats, you've got your ONLY worthwhile raid priest ;) |
| 06:34.28 | art3mis | disc priests are fun in pvp |
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| 06:34.41 | Peoii | well, outside shadow ;) |
| 06:34.50 | theoddone33 | what battleground weekend is it? |
| 06:34.50 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis: you tell me about it |
| 06:34.51 | art3mis | laugh |
| 06:35.11 | sag_ich_nicht | power infusion pain suppresion wait wasn't this supposed to be a 5v5 not a 5v3? |
| 06:35.15 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: for some reason disc priests for pvp can take a bweating like nothing on earth |
| 06:35.29 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis i know |
| 06:35.34 | art3mis | its kinna creepy |
| 06:35.49 | sag_ich_nicht | they are a buff machine that never runs oom and can not be killed |
| 06:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 06:35.58 | art3mis | hehe i wouldnt go that far ;P |
| 06:36.15 | art3mis | but yeah the lack of shadowform does help em be pretty good healers and dps |
| 06:36.19 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis if they pvp they have +res and +sta stacked up their butt to their mouth |
| 06:36.25 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 06:36.40 | art3mis | i used to run around solo without VT and up to ids |
| 06:37.02 | art3mis | why?? "well because +35spell is better for solo than 12 mana a tick ;) |
| 06:38.05 | Antiarc | ckknight: Running about 0.145kb/call now, down about 0.035kb |
| 06:38.13 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:38.15 | ckknight | another one coming |
| 06:38.30 | ckknight | prolly won't do much at all, though |
| 06:38.56 | ckknight | so don't bother testing |
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| 06:40.23 | Antiarc | ckknight: the comm's CPU usage is WAY down |
| 06:40.26 | Antiarc | Like 10% of what it was before |
| 06:40.30 | ckknight | lol, yea. |
| 06:40.36 | ckknight | cause of the lack of string intering |
| 06:40.38 | ckknight | interning* |
| 06:40.44 | ckknight | it puts off making strings until the very end |
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| 06:40.49 | ckknight | working on yet another commit now |
| 06:40.53 | ckknight | hopefully will bring it down 20% |
| 06:41.15 | ckknight | just about passing around string buffers instead of strings, pretty much |
| 06:41.36 | Adirelle | nymbia: ping ? |
| 06:42.01 | Bam__ | test |
| 06:42.21 | Bam__ | weird.. I cant chat in #lua |
| 06:42.30 | ckknight | I can |
| 06:42.34 | ckknight | Bam__: you registered |
| 06:42.35 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:42.44 | ckknight | also, I see your text. |
| 06:42.47 | Bam__ | did they change something? |
| 06:43.07 | Bam__ | hmm better reconnect |
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| 06:43.51 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 06:44.57 | Adirelle | woohoo... managed to get a bunch of addon LoD with AddonLoader, really cut down initiali loading time |
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| 06:46.37 | Antiarc | ckknight: Latest update put me back up to 0.300kb/call |
| 06:46.46 | ckknight | hrm... |
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| 06:46.55 | ckknight | updating from what revision to what? |
| 06:47.32 | ckknight | gonna svn diff to see if I screwed up something |
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| 06:48.45 | ckknight | Antiarc? |
| 06:48.46 | Antiarc | uhh |
| 06:48.47 | Antiarc | let's see |
| 06:49.14 | Antiarc | Updated to 41511 |
| 06:49.16 | Antiarc | Not sure what from |
| 06:49.19 | Antiarc | Probably the one just before it |
| 06:50.23 | ckknight | hey, can someone add Dewdrop-2.0 as a library to Prat? apparently it doesn't have it |
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| 06:51.35 | ckknight | Antiarc: bah |
| 06:51.53 | ckknight | how do I set up Expo to test myself? |
| 06:52.45 | Antiarc | ckknight: It's dropped significantly since |
| 06:52.47 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 06:52.57 | Antiarc | I'm just installing Expo, then activate the profiling module |
| 06:53.07 | ckknight | well, too bad |
| 06:53.11 | Antiarc | Then /run Threat = AceLibrary("Threat-1.0") and profile "Threat" as the namespace. |
| 06:53.13 | ckknight | I committed another revision |
| 06:53.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:53.24 | Funkeh` | cia dead? |
| 06:53.25 | ckknight | optimization-wise and all |
| 06:53.27 | ckknight | yea, Funkeh` |
| 06:53.31 | Antiarc | Lemme try it |
| 06:53.31 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 06:53.36 | Funkeh` | sucking bad these days |
| 06:53.41 | ckknight | yea. |
| 06:53.49 | ckknight | and Kaelten's gone now... |
| 06:54.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I think pasta changed the script to (supposedly) send to CIA in the background, so it wouldn't slow down commits when CIA was borked. |
| 06:56.02 | Antiarc | ckknight: 41511 seems about twice as efficient in both CPU and RAM as 41513 |
| 06:56.17 | Cryect | almost have pie charts in graphlib fast enough for realtime usage! |
| 06:56.48 | ckknight | um, srsly? |
| 06:56.51 | ckknight | that makes no sense. |
| 06:58.24 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 06:58.29 | Antiarc | Maybe I just need a larger sample size |
| 06:59.05 | Antiarc | 41511, 80 calls, 0.024s/17.988kb |
| 06:59.10 | ckknight | yea, I'm gonna say that's impossible... |
| 06:59.13 | Antiarc | Trying with the latest |
| 06:59.23 | ckknight | 41513 is the latest |
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| 07:01.12 | ckknight | unless table.insert is a huge hog |
| 07:01.14 | ckknight | which is possible. |
| 07:01.22 | ckknight | I removed it and am committing a new revision |
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| 07:01.32 | ckknight | r41515 |
| 07:02.00 | Cryect | hmm thats a good question whats expo say about table :-p though can we hook table |
| 07:02.16 | Antiarc | latest, 83 calls, 0.022s, 16.053kb |
| 07:02.32 | Cryect | insert is using 0.010kb per call on avg |
| 07:02.36 | Antiarc | Err, second latest |
| 07:03.16 | ckknight | Cryect: holy hell |
| 07:03.23 | ckknight | Antiarc: okay, try the latest version |
| 07:03.27 | Antiarc | trying |
| 07:03.29 | ckknight | :-[ |
| 07:04.19 | Cryect | haha your going holy hell at 10 bytes per call? I mean you have to have what 4 bytes for the actual var at least 1 byte to define what it is plus the table/hash ref |
| 07:04.49 | Cryect | though you are prolly storing strings so guess not 4 bytes |
| 07:05.36 | Cryect | its kinda scary watching table.insert since I added table to expo its already up to 280 added :-p |
| 07:05.45 | Antiarc | 80 calls, 0.032 sec, 14.07kb |
| 07:06.16 | Cryect | Hmm time went up but saved 2kb |
| 07:06.34 | ckknight | I'm quite sure your tests aren't the greatest. |
| 07:06.42 | ckknight | seeing as what I added would've decreased time |
| 07:06.57 | Cryect | time is going to vary based on whats going on in the background on his computer so yeah |
| 07:07.01 | ckknight | either way, it's much more efficient now |
| 07:07.36 | ckknight | like, for me, I got 10 calls at 500 bytes |
| 07:07.42 | Antiarc | Heh, they are not very scientific |
| 07:07.49 | Antiarc | I'm just running around shooting things |
| 07:07.52 | Antiarc | While in a raid |
| 07:07.57 | Cryect | oh haha |
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| 07:08.32 | Antiarc | My pet's 28 |
| 07:08.35 | Antiarc | He was 22 when I started |
| 07:09.13 | Cryect | btw memory seem fine with latest version of protractor? |
| 07:09.39 | Antiarc | I haven't updated yet |
| 07:11.44 | ckknight | okay, well, I'm gonna call AceComm to be more efficient than when I started |
| 07:12.15 | Antiarc | Whoa, there it is. |
| 07:12.25 | Antiarc | SendKLHTMMessage just spit out 500kb of junk |
| 07:12.36 | Antiarc | 1.6kb/call |
| 07:12.42 | ckknight | ick |
| 07:12.50 | ckknight | yea, I haven't audited that |
| 07:13.07 | ZealotOnAStick | It's viral-suckage! |
| 07:13.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Kenco's not self-deluded . . . his code just infested his brain, like in Snow Crash. |
| 07:14.00 | Peoii | RP mod? what would it do exactly? Tell you when you need to wash your nickers? |
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| 07:16.26 | Cryect | I agree Rocket Propelled Mods are fun! |
| 07:16.40 | Cryect | everything needs to be modded for rockets |
| 07:17.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yay rocket propulsion! |
| 07:17.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I've wanted to try something like the JATO car from Mythbuster. |
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| 07:21.34 | vrak | hmm, does ClassTimer depend on babble now? |
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| 07:22.20 | Adirelle | Antiarc: notice I kept the SendKLHTMMessage that was originally in ThreatLib |
| 07:22.49 | Antiarc | yeah, not sure what's up with it |
| 07:22.56 | Antiarc | I moved it back into Threat-1.0.lua and it seems fine. |
| 07:23.04 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
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| 07:28.40 | ckknight | the ktm file has bad structure |
| 07:28.45 | ckknight | one file, one module is how it should be |
| 07:29.29 | ckknight | I'm gonna turn the KTM stuff into its own module. |
| 07:29.46 | Antiarc | Heh, I was just gonna move it back into Threat |
| 07:29.49 | Antiarc | But I like the idea of that better |
| 07:30.06 | Antiarc | I think Adirelle got it most of the way there |
| 07:31.08 | Adirelle | I followed ckknight advice : make it worky, then we'll optimize :p |
| 07:31.44 | Adirelle | damn it, someone started an escort quest in front of me, just the time to reply here :/ |
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| 07:34.27 | Peoii | ugh, almost there... |
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| 07:45.07 | steev64 | is there any type of ocb replacement? im using pitbull and i was using agUF, i *thought* aguf was providing it, but my friend says she doesn't have that with her setup (shes still using aguf) |
| 07:45.17 | steev64 | so im guessing i was using ocb previously |
| 07:45.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Quartz |
| 07:45.33 | Fin | quartz |
| 07:46.01 | Adirelle | er... Quartz ? |
| 07:46.05 | Adirelle | :p |
| 07:46.10 | theoddone33 | dogtag! |
| 07:46.12 | theoddone33 | wait... |
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| 07:47.58 | steev64 | i dig dogtag, and once i got pitbull all setup, i really like it - though i was trying to find a site somewhere with some other setups, but couldn't seem to find any, only other people looking as well, is there one? |
| 07:48.21 | theoddone33 | other setups? what do you mean |
| 07:48.34 | steev64 | well the way other people have it set up |
| 07:48.45 | theoddone33 | like screenshots? |
| 07:48.47 | steev64 | like for example, in my raid setup, i have all the bars at 50% |
| 07:49.05 | steev64 | i don't show pets at all (who cares about hunters anyways mirite!) |
| 07:49.23 | theoddone33 | there's a thread somewhere on the ace forums with UI screenshots |
| 07:49.34 | theoddone33 | some of them are cool but make me feel bad because mine does not look as nice |
| 07:49.37 | steev64 | but pitbull also gives you the option to import them |
| 07:49.43 | Fin | there's a thread started by ckknight specifically for sharing DogTags, I believe |
| 07:50.07 | abyssichate | need to check that one out |
| 07:50.34 | Funkeh` | anyone ever felt like replying 'you are a fucking retard' to a post but you are really too nice? |
| 07:50.34 | Fin | UI screenshots: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.0 |
| 07:50.44 | kenlyric | no |
| 07:50.48 | kenlyric | I've never been too nice. |
| 07:50.50 | abyssichate | no, I'd just write it |
| 07:50.54 | theoddone33 | anyone remember the name of the mage necrosis clone? |
| 07:50.56 | Fin | "Post useful/interesting DogTag-1.0 sequences here": http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6037.0 |
| 07:50.58 | Adirelle | I definitively have to find something to replace smartbuff |
| 07:51.06 | abyssichate | theoddone33: Arcanist-something |
| 07:51.13 | theoddone33 | thanks |
| 07:51.59 | Adirelle | and zhunter btw :/ |
| 07:52.55 | Antiarc | Adirelle: I think there's some kind of Threat<->KTM loop going on |
| 07:53.16 | Antiarc | A mage in my raid attacked a rat, and then addon spam went crazy till he had like 66k threat and it settled down |
| 07:53.24 | Antiarc | That would explain abyssichate's problem, too |
| 07:53.44 | Adirelle | Antiarc: I'll take a look, but I can feel where it could come from |
| 07:54.00 | Antiarc | I don't know either, but I've got ViewAddonMessage up and saw it happen for the second time tonight |
| 07:54.03 | Antiarc | Also - |
| 07:54.11 | Antiarc | He was showing as KTM user with a *, but I know he uses Threat. |
| 07:54.17 | Antiarc | So I don't know what the hell's going on |
| 07:54.20 | Antiarc | Just a data point |
| 07:55.55 | Adirelle | Antiarc: well... OnPureKLHTMMessage handlers are not called if the sender is self or using Threat :/ |
| 07:56.20 | Adirelle | Antiarc: and KTM input is handled by OnPureKLHTMMessage:t |
| 07:56.23 | Antiarc | shouldn't be, anyway. I don't know how it happened |
| 07:56.25 | steev64 | tell him to update his shite |
| 07:56.37 | [Ammo] | aw man waking up to the smell of fresh baked chocolate chip brownies <3 wife |
| 07:56.56 | abyssichate | Skipping sleep beats that! |
| 07:57.06 | steev64 | i want brownies :( |
| 07:57.53 | Funkeh` | i want [Ammo]'s wife |
| 07:58.11 | [Ammo] | she baked em before she went to work even |
| 07:58.27 | abyssichate | on Sunday? |
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| 07:58.31 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 07:58.40 | abyssichate | Working on Sundays should feel like a pain |
| 07:59.34 | Adirelle | Antiarc: about SendKLHTM memory leak, could it be the "local _ = partyUnits[nil]" at its start ? |
| 07:59.48 | theoddone33 | this game depresses me so much... I like every class and want to play them all at 70, but that takes like a year's time investment |
| 07:59.51 | theoddone33 | at least |
| 07:59.55 | Antiarc | Maybe. Not sure why it's there. I have it commented out locally, so maybe that fixed it? |
| 08:00.24 | abyssichate | Antiarc: meanwhile a fix is released, will disabling the omen->ktm communications work temporary? |
| 08:00.50 | ckknight | Antiarc: I have a commit ready |
| 08:00.56 | abyssichate | *temporarily |
| 08:01.17 | Adirelle | Antiarc: it forces a cleanup of partyMemberUsesKLHTM, to drop people that are not in the party anymore |
| 08:01.25 | Antiarc | Ah |
| 08:01.29 | Adirelle | not sure it should be there |
| 08:01.34 | Antiarc | abyssichate: If that's what it is, then yes |
| 08:01.38 | Antiarc | ckknight: I'm ready to test it |
| 08:01.48 | abyssichate | theoddone33: I am kind of rerolling an UD male warlock because I don't like (warlock) UD female characters anymore and it'd take me ages to get the same gear I've got on my main :s |
| 08:02.07 | Adirelle | Antiarc: in fact I think we may put a bit more "maintenance" taks instead of checking all theses things at each call |
| 08:02.08 | ckknight | Antiarc: k, it may break things... |
| 08:02.09 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 08:02.12 | ckknight | here's hoping it doesn't |
| 08:02.23 | Antiarc | ckknight: Heh, that's why I'm here to test! ;) |
| 08:02.44 | Adirelle | Antiarc: tho making KLHTM support a Threat module would help |
| 08:02.54 | Adirelle | s/tho/so/ |
| 08:03.12 | theoddone33 | I really enjoy priest, druid, warlock, warrior, mage, but all my alts are under 50 for those classes :( |
| 08:03.21 | Adirelle | ckknight: wasn't you talking about this ? |
| 08:03.32 | ckknight | um, I just did it. |
| 08:04.14 | Adirelle | oh |
| 08:04.21 | Adirelle | gonna update |
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| 08:06.04 | xystic | theoddone33: The first time I played WoW, I was enthusiastic enough to follow some levelling guide and get to 60 within a month... |
| 08:06.19 | theoddone33 | well I have a problem |
| 08:06.22 | theoddone33 | I hate leveling |
| 08:06.31 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Does Pitbull do anything with paladin auras (as in create buttons for them)? |
| 08:06.32 | Adirelle | ckknight: actually that WILL broke some things, like front-ends :p |
| 08:06.40 | theoddone33 | but then 10-60 took me ~2 months on my paladin |
| 08:06.41 | ckknight | Lywellyn: buttons? |
| 08:06.45 | ckknight | Lywellyn: it'll show em. |
| 08:06.53 | Lywellyn | wait, never mind, it's not a button. what the heck is showing this?? |
| 08:07.03 | ckknight | Adirelle: hey, it wasn't documented, so I couldn't tell |
| 08:07.19 | Adirelle | :p |
| 08:07.46 | Adirelle | btw, they just need to refer to the new module |
| 08:09.41 | ckknight | alright... |
| 08:10.55 | Antiarc | Adirelle: http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5826/zomgspamsx0.jpg |
| 08:11.02 | Antiarc | Got a TON of that spam from a mage while he was not in combat |
| 08:11.10 | Antiarc | Go figure |
| 08:11.54 | Adirelle | that's the KTM curse |
| 08:12.02 | Antiarc | He's not running KTM though. |
| 08:12.24 | Antiarc | As you can see, he's broadcasting KTM and THR, but I had him verify that /dump klhtm == nil |
| 08:14.02 | Adirelle | ckknight: btw, by making it a module, I can wipe out "KLHTM" from most method names |
| 08:14.13 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:15.23 | Adirelle | Antiarc: I'm wondering if it's the Threat->KTM part or KTM->Threat part that causes the loop :/ |
| 08:15.26 | Antiarc | Ok, I'm seeing people show up as non-Threat users, but they use Threat |
| 08:15.32 | Antiarc | So that's probably it |
| 08:15.41 | Antiarc | Clearing the table borking it perhaps? |
| 08:15.50 | abyssichate | ckknight: did you experience discordant background colouring then (as in friendly and guild targets being textured as "others")? |
| 08:15.55 | Antiarc | Also, ckknight, it doesn't seem that I'm broadcasting any KTM data now after your commit |
| 08:16.11 | ckknight | abyssichate: ...no |
| 08:16.21 | ckknight | Antiarc: bah |
| 08:16.50 | ckknight | oh, whoops |
| 08:16.54 | ckknight | wait |
| 08:16.55 | ckknight | no |
| 08:16.59 | ckknight | k, I dunno |
| 08:18.49 | Antiarc | Ignore me, it's sending |
| 08:18.57 | ckknight | k |
| 08:19.06 | ckknight | Antiarc: so I'm looking at the current RP mods |
| 08:19.11 | ckknight | and might I say: they all look like shit |
| 08:19.23 | ckknight | I want to trump them so bad. |
| 08:20.14 | Antiarc | Heh, they all are |
| 08:20.14 | ckknight | so I want to come up with a name |
| 08:20.14 | ckknight | I'm not sure about Forsooth |
| 08:20.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Line Please? |
| 08:20.45 | ckknight | ? |
| 08:21.01 | Antiarc | Giant Disembodied Hand |
| 08:22.31 | theoddone33 | there's not a way to force grid to display X number of people is there? |
| 08:22.41 | theoddone33 | for configuring |
| 08:23.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Not really. best bet would be battlegrounds. |
| 08:23.16 | theoddone33 | ah yeah |
| 08:23.25 | theoddone33 | that's true, av is the best place to play with UI |
| 08:23.56 | Adirelle | I hesitating between trying to figure why KTMSupport is sometime broken or adapt it to its new module'status |
| 08:24.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Personally, I'd find "Kinky" a terribly amusing name for an RP mod, but there's probably too many people who'd either be offended, or take it wrong way (and be offended). |
| 08:24.54 | Adirelle | and btw, broadcast could be a submodule of support |
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| 08:25.16 | abyssichate | What is wrong about 'kinky'? |
| 08:25.48 | abyssichate | eh, I got it, nevermind |
| 08:25.53 | ZealotOnAStick | nothing if you have an adequate sense of humor and aren't too stuck on your own concepts. |
| 08:26.48 | Adirelle | ckknight: what do you think is better : having local flag to enable all processing and some handler to update it, or testing all condition each time ? |
| 08:27.07 | Adirelle | damn, my english's quite bad this morning, sorry |
| 08:27.23 | ckknight | "SafetyWord" |
| 08:27.30 | ckknight | Adirelle: um, don't know what you're asking. |
| 08:28.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. |
| 08:28.41 | Adirelle | ckknight: in KLHTMSupport, actually I'm checking several conditions (partyUseKTM, Threat is action, and so one) in several places |
| 08:28.53 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:28.54 | ckknight | k |
| 08:28.55 | ZealotOnAStick | More to BDSM than RP, really, but still, I chuckled. |
| 08:29.04 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: oh, yea, I guess so |
| 08:29.10 | Adirelle | ckknight: but I could also put a 'active' local and add some event handler to update it when conditions changes |
| 08:29.28 | Adirelle | dunno what's heavier |
| 08:31.32 | ckknight | leave it be for now |
| 08:32.47 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i can't have health and mana on bottom? (cowtip) |
| 08:33.05 | ckknight | not at the same time, I haven't put in overlap checking |
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| 08:33.47 | Funkeh` | ckknight: alright, another request in the tag editing, a cancel button and a defaults button |
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| 08:34.47 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc: Hi. Did you have any additional thoughts on my sig-creation problem? |
| 08:35.36 | Funkeh` | ckknight: also is it just me or are some tags 'cut out' in the editing menu |
| 08:35.48 | ckknight | yea, that's how things are. |
| 08:36.12 | Adirelle | Antiarc: I'm actually considering dropping all KTM messages that come from playerName |
| 08:36.15 | Adirelle | Antiarc: any cons ? |
| 08:37.07 | ckknight | don't think so |
| 08:37.11 | ckknight | what do people think about "Cliche"? |
| 08:37.36 | Antiarc | DesertDwarf: I'm not sure, tbh. Did you ever send over that ftp login stuff? |
| 08:37.41 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Don't see why not |
| 08:37.58 | Antiarc | ckknight: I think that "Cliche" is brilliant and the person that came up with it should get a cookie |
| 08:39.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I find it brilliantly hilarious. |
| 08:39.12 | ckknight | fuck it, it works for me. |
| 08:39.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Yet I suspect that some RPers with sticks up their asses will be miffed about it. |
| 08:39.39 | DesertDwarf | Antiarc: Let me switch to a real IRC client. I'm sending you private messages, but you don't seem to be getting them. |
| 08:39.57 | Antiarc | DesertDwarf: You have to authenticate on Freenode |
| 08:40.04 | DesertDwarf | D'oh! |
| 08:40.06 | Antiarc | Non-identified people can't send queries |
| 08:40.07 | syeren | ckknight: |
| 08:40.07 | syeren | [2007/06/24 09:24:11-1262-x10]: Threat-1.0-41492 (PitBull):656: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value) |
| 08:40.07 | syeren | --- |
| 08:40.11 | DesertDwarf | I knew that. I forgot! |
| 08:40.11 | syeren | Every time I zone somewhere. |
| 08:40.23 | syeren | I even have Thread Module Disabled :( |
| 08:40.34 | ckknight | Antiarc: you handle that one. |
| 08:40.37 | syeren | *Threat |
| 08:40.58 | Antiarc | I think I fixed that one localle |
| 08:40.59 | ckknight | actually, I will |
| 08:41.01 | Antiarc | Locally |
| 08:41.05 | ckknight | oh, nvm then |
| 08:41.05 | Antiarc | You broke it though :P |
| 08:41.10 | Antiarc | If you want I'll just commit my fix |
| 08:41.55 | Antiarc | Committed. |
| 08:42.01 | ckknight | fucking A |
| 08:42.03 | ckknight | I want CIA back |
| 08:42.12 | syeren | WHERE IS CIA? |
| 08:42.25 | Neebler | purl where is CIA? |
| 08:42.27 | purl | Neebler: what are you talking about? |
| 08:42.32 | Neebler | purl you're ugly |
| 08:42.49 | ckknight | Antiarc: ah, one issue with Cliche is that it's close to Click |
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| 08:43.02 | ckknight | I can't Cli<tab> |
| 08:43.08 | Antiarc | I thought about that, but they're two completely different mods |
| 08:43.13 | Antiarc | If it was at all raid-related I'd say no-go |
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| 08:44.13 | Adirelle | Antiarc: got something, apparently Threat user are reported as pure ktm users :( |
| 08:44.20 | ckknight | I guess so |
| 08:44.26 | Adirelle | which shouldn't happen |
| 08:44.28 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Yeah, not sure why. Race condition due to reloading in combat, I suspect |
| 08:45.32 | ckknight | Antiarc: what category does it fall under? http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Categories |
| 08:46.10 | Adirelle | Antiarc: adding something to cleanup usesKTM table |
| 08:46.28 | Antiarc | Chat/Communication or Interface Enhancements |
| 08:46.33 | Antiarc | Probably the former |
| 08:46.39 | ckknight | not the former |
| 08:46.41 | Antiarc | No? |
| 08:46.43 | ckknight | people wouldn't think of it |
| 08:46.51 | ckknight | it'd be Interface Enhancements, I'd say |
| 08:46.59 | ckknight | even though it's comm-centric |
| 08:47.04 | Antiarc | The latter is way vague |
| 08:47.38 | ckknight | it's probably Miscellaneous, really. |
| 08:47.41 | Antiarc | I'd just throw it und...yeah |
| 08:47.49 | Adirelle | Antiarc: my bad, it's a TTK display flaw |
| 08:48.11 | Adirelle | (I'm using since it mainly display informative data :p) |
| 08:48.52 | syeren | ckknight, how do I get rounded border/boxes back on CowTip? |
| 08:48.54 | syeren | They went away :( |
| 08:49.05 | ckknight | syeren: set the border to blizz tooltip |
| 08:49.08 | ckknight | then mess with other option |
| 08:49.09 | ckknight | s |
| 08:49.20 | ckknight | okay, what icon should Cliche have? |
| 08:49.58 | ckknight | I dunno, Antiarc, the more I hear Cliche, the less I like it |
| 08:50.06 | ckknight | perhaps something more along the lines of CheeseWheel |
| 08:50.06 | syeren | What's Cliche :/ |
| 08:50.06 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 08:50.09 | Antiarc | Totally up to you :) |
| 08:50.16 | ckknight | I want to make an RP mod, syeren |
| 08:51.36 | Cryect | a wheel of cheesy comments sounds good |
| 08:51.41 | Fin | hooray! |
| 08:52.10 | syeren | ckknight, that didn't work, I ended up with the most fucked up looking ToolTip ever. |
| 08:52.12 | Antiarc | ckknight: You could add some kind of RP session transcriptor and call it CheeseLog |
| 08:52.13 | syeren | Looked like it was plastic. |
| 08:52.28 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:52.30 | Antiarc | Bedtime for me |
| 08:52.31 | Antiarc | Night fols |
| 08:52.33 | Fin | night |
| 08:52.33 | syeren | I can give you a screen if you want ckknight :P |
| 08:52.35 | DesertDwarf | Night |
| 08:52.38 | syeren | That's how fucking dumb it looked ;p |
| 08:52.42 | ckknight | k |
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| 08:54.14 | syeren | ckknight: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6969/wowscrnshot062407094810nx5.jpg |
| 08:54.18 | syeren | Best looking tooltip ever. |
| 08:54.37 | DesertDwarf | Eww |
| 08:54.39 | ckknight | syeren: change your background. |
| 08:54.51 | ckknight | that's the issue. |
| 08:55.06 | syeren | To what? |
| 08:55.12 | syeren | I just changed it to all the background styles ;p |
| 08:55.15 | syeren | And same shit ;p |
| 08:56.20 | syeren | Hmm, I went on Blizzard Tabard Background with my old settings and I got my rounded border back \o/ |
| 08:56.25 | moonsorrow | ckknight: just updated and got that error when selecting some options: CowTip-r41510\PowerBar\PowerBar.lua:41: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "UNIT_HEALTH" to method "UNIT_HEALTH", it does not exist |
| 08:57.08 | ckknight | fixed, moonsorrow |
| 08:57.24 | syeren | Just now or? |
| 08:57.26 | syeren | Where is CIA :( |
| 08:57.29 | ckknight | yea, just now |
| 08:57.40 | syeren | I need CIA to judge when to run WAU next :/ |
| 08:57.56 | syeren | My options aren't going to get reset again by updating are they :P? |
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| 08:58.32 | starlon | syeren: lol how'd you do that? |
| 08:58.53 | syeren | Do what :P? |
| 08:59.15 | syeren | Border Padding = 0, Border = 0, Style = Blizzard ToolTip. |
| 08:59.19 | syeren | And you get weird fucking tooltip! |
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| 09:00.02 | starlon | ah |
| 09:00.06 | Fin | weird fucking tooltip, or a fucking weird tooltip? |
| 09:00.08 | starlon | I kinda like it |
| 09:00.23 | syeren | http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6969/wowscrnshot062407094810nx5.jpg |
| 09:00.28 | syeren | Judge for yourself Fin! |
| 09:04.31 | starlon | http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/WoWScrnShot_062407_040144.jpg |
| 09:08.17 | Fin | if I put $Revision$ in a file that I commit to the SVN repository, that gets replaced with the revision number, right? |
| 09:08.45 | cryogen | $Revision: $ and the svn property needs to be set |
| 09:08.48 | Fin | please excuse my ignorance, I just noticed something and I want to check it |
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| 09:09.40 | Fin | I didn't understand that, sorry cryogen |
| 09:09.44 | Fin | set where? |
| 09:10.00 | cryogen | see the svn manual regarding propset |
| 09:10.07 | cryogen | gotta run |
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| 09:11.24 | ckknight | svn:keywords = "Date Rev" |
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| 09:13.55 | Funkeh` | Rev Date? :P |
| 09:13.56 | syeren | /cast [target=party2target,exists,harm] Dispel Magic |
| 09:14.12 | syeren | Why does that sometimes not dispel the target of the second target :( |
| 09:14.17 | syeren | Sometimes it does like the 4ths :/ |
| 09:14.27 | syeren | *second party member ;/ |
| 09:14.36 | twinight | hm, best mailmod for ace2? |
| 09:14.51 | Fin | CT_Mod |
| 09:16.09 | syeren | Infact... |
| 09:16.20 | syeren | Is there anyway to make dispel MTT? |
| 09:16.42 | syeren | So if I was to set our warrior as MT, and then set the target tag to be Main Tank (If possible.) |
| 09:17.50 | sylvanaar | could a few ppl check out wau 1.9.5 and tell me if you can understand how it works? |
| 09:18.44 | Fin | how recently was it updated? |
| 09:19.00 | Fin | minutes ago? |
| 09:19.15 | sylvanaar | yeah - prolly |
| 09:19.17 | Dustwhisper | Is there any Raidmeters/tool that will accurately show Banish/Sheep per lock/mage on mobname? that is something that will catch "non harmfull spells" like sheeping, banish, curse of elements |
| 09:19.26 | Fin | my copy isn't complaining that the version is out of date, and it's only 1.9.3.something |
| 09:19.40 | Fin | I updated it about 40 minutes ago |
| 09:19.49 | Cryect | Dustwhisper: can't be done accurately really without all the players using the addon |
| 09:19.56 | Dustwhisper | that's allright |
| 09:20.06 | Dustwhisper | aslong as all our locks/mages are using it it should be ok |
| 09:20.11 | sylvanaar | well, i didnt trigger the nag |
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| 09:20.12 | Dustwhisper | i know you need a spellhook |
| 09:20.36 | Cryect | Well you don't need a spellbook you just need events that are only sent to the caster for Instant Spells |
| 09:24.40 | Iceroth | is there some lib that would keep track of BG roster and notify me when ppl leave/join? |
| 09:25.53 | sylvanaar | Iceroth that only sorta makes sense |
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| 09:26.11 | Iceroth | hmm? |
| 09:27.26 | sylvanaar | you get raid updates for them |
| 09:27.46 | Iceroth | ah but i want to keep track of enemy players as well |
| 09:27.49 | sedatedChipmunk | though not for enemies |
| 09:28.52 | Funkeh` | ckknight: when someone targets themselves it shows Target : |
| 09:28.55 | Funkeh` | its actually blank |
| 09:30.40 | ckknight | ...k |
| 09:30.53 | ckknight | that doesn't do the same for me |
| 09:32.19 | sylvanaar | Iceroth oh right, try glorylib |
| 09:32.52 | Iceroth | did, couldn't find what i needed from there |
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| 09:47.21 | Fin | oh my |
| 09:47.25 | Fin | it works! |
| 09:47.40 | Fin | simple, but it was a lot less difficult than the last thing I tried |
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| 10:41.55 | syeren | ckknight :)? |
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| 10:50.34 | Daemona | Adirelle ? something is majorly borked with TTM, running into a repeated error loop |
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| 10:51.07 | Adirelle | Daemona: there was some incompatible change in ThreatLib, I didn't have the time to update TTK |
| 10:51.20 | Daemona | k |
| 10:55.59 | Daemona | well nothing left to do then disabling it for the moment i guess then? |
| 10:56.25 | Adirelle | yep |
| 10:56.53 | Adirelle | well... or update from SVN in a minute or two :p |
| 10:57.04 | Daemona | svn is the devil ;) |
| 10:57.17 | Daemona | ned to figure out ArkInv first ;) |
| 10:59.49 | bindi | whats the new tinytip called? |
| 10:59.56 | Daemona | TinyTip? |
| 11:00.07 | Daemona | unless you want to change to a new mod. |
| 11:00.10 | bindi | yeh but wasn't he going to rework it? |
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| 11:01.52 | bindi | to make it actually tiny |
| 11:02.07 | nekoh | his new version is on googlecode |
| 11:02.27 | bindi | ah but not released yet? :) |
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| 11:02.34 | nekoh | i guess |
| 11:02.37 | Daemona | thrae-wow: generalmx * r86 /branches/TinyTip/ (20 files in 5 dirs): TinyTip (v1.x): Re-uploaded to google SVN |
| 11:02.38 | bindi | thanks :) |
| 11:02.40 | nekoh | not packaged at least |
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| 11:08.24 | Morghus | What's up with Wowhead being such a bitch to use? >< |
| 11:08.28 | Morghus | *armory |
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| 11:18.24 | Nemes_ | the horrid slowness and browser hanging? |
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| 11:18.57 | Nemes_ | that what makes armory a bitch to use? |
| 11:21.42 | Daemona | Adirelle seems fixed :) |
| 11:22.04 | Adirelle | Daemona: great |
| 11:22.26 | Adirelle | I was thinking of adding /ktm commands, but I don't even know what they are :p |
| 11:22.39 | Daemona | and next time remind me to not test WAU when sylvanaar says "try new version i go to sleep" ;) |
| 11:23.06 | Daemona | it just updated ANY Ace Addon i had. |
| 11:24.00 | Daemona | cause the f12 shortcut was changed to shift+f12 |
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| 11:26.14 | Mikk | Err why |
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| 11:33.07 | sylvanaar | It makes more sense than you think |
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| 11:52.18 | Mikk | Hrms.. may just be me, but wiping all the darn Changelog-....-rxxxxx.xml / .txt files seems to speed loading |
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| 11:52.31 | Mikk | They do build up over time :P |
| 11:52.34 | sylvanaar | every file is iterated |
| 11:52.43 | Mikk | yeah i know |
| 11:53.41 | Mikk | lal, suddenly i got "every sperm i saaaaacred, every sperm is gooood" stuck in my head |
| 11:54.05 | sylvanaar | i needs some more ppl to test moving from WAU 1.9.3 -> 1.9.6 |
| 11:54.13 | Mikk | huhu |
| 11:55.05 | Mikk | Ohyeah, slight bugreport it 1.9.5: When you change externals mode in settings, it isn't reflected in the bottom statusbar until you restart the app |
| 11:55.08 | Mikk | Made me nervous :S |
| 11:56.28 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: did you fix the connection issues yet? |
| 11:56.53 | Fisker- | sec i'll just upgrade then |
| 11:56.55 | sylvanaar | its 1.9.6 |
| 11:57.21 | sylvanaar | i'll check that though |
| 11:58.04 | sylvanaar | the connection issues has been client side every time i checked |
| 11:58.13 | Fisker- | so just overwrite my old 1.9.3 and start it? |
| 11:58.17 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 11:58.22 | Funkeh` | version: ?<version> eh? |
| 11:58.25 | sylvanaar | yesh |
| 11:58.27 | Funkeh` | whats wiht the query |
| 11:58.45 | Fisker- | well it starts up fine :P |
| 11:58.47 | sylvanaar | means externals unknown |
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| 11:58.58 | Funkeh` | well thats not very obvious at all |
| 11:59.11 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.20 | sylvanaar | everything else is wordy |
| 11:59.39 | Funkeh` | you are making a tool for mostly idiots and expect them to know a bunch of symbols? |
| 12:00.09 | Funkeh` | and for some reason the 'descriptions' ticky box has the left side cut off |
| 12:00.23 | Fisker- | it updated 123 addons :I |
| 12:00.23 | sylvanaar | eh? |
| 12:00.26 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 12:00.29 | sylvanaar | it does that |
| 12:00.31 | sylvanaar | first time |
| 12:00.46 | Fisker- | ok |
| 12:00.50 | sylvanaar | see |
| 12:00.58 | sylvanaar | now your versions are set |
| 12:01.17 | Funkeh` | the descriptions ticky box has 3 borders, top, right, bottom, the left has disapeared |
| 12:02.21 | sylvanaar | huh? just resize the version column |
| 12:02.48 | Funkeh` | i tried that |
| 12:03.14 | Funkeh` | so what does '-' and '+' mean |
| 12:03.23 | sylvanaar | with/without |
| 12:03.38 | Mikk | obviously not very apparent |
| 12:03.54 | sylvanaar | well, you give me a terse way of saying that |
| 12:04.03 | Method|Shive | new ClassTimer's tracking system doesnt work for Shadow Word: Pain :( |
| 12:04.16 | Method|Shive | back to old ver again :/ |
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| 12:04.26 | Funkeh` | thats why cool people sue quartz |
| 12:04.28 | Funkeh` | use* |
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| 12:04.55 | Method|Shive | :| |
| 12:05.08 | Method|Shive | its casting bar |
| 12:05.08 | Mikk | sylvanaar: Isn't one. Make a new column :P |
| 12:05.08 | Method|Shive | ClassTimer is dot timer :o |
| 12:05.33 | Funkeh` | quartz is a dot timer also but without the bullshit library system that is not needed since 2.1 |
| 12:05.43 | Method|Shive | ok |
| 12:05.50 | Method|Shive | worth trying then you say? |
| 12:06.04 | Funkeh` | if all you are interested is your debuffs then yes |
| 12:06.24 | Method|Shive | yeah debuffs on my target and /focus unit |
| 12:06.33 | Funkeh` | yes it does both of those |
| 12:06.34 | Wixi | Funkeh`: Does it manage self buffs ie Battleshout for Warriors? |
| 12:06.37 | Method|Shive | great |
| 12:06.43 | Method|Shive | ty for tip |
| 12:06.46 | Funkeh` | wixi only if you have yourself targeted |
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| 12:07.02 | Funkeh` | or maybe jsut set yourself as focus or something dunno if you can do that |
| 12:07.03 | Wixi | fiddlesticks :( |
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| 12:08.09 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 12:08.18 | Fisker- | 150 servers for 60000 players |
| 12:08.35 | Recluse | I'm staring at a function "GetCursorPosition()" and wondering if there is a "GetPlayerPosition()", or what I could use to return the players xy? |
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| 12:10.44 | Recluse | nm, i got it i think local locX, locY, locZ = GetCurrentPosition("player"); |
| 12:10.56 | Morghus | Is there an addon to make your own timer-bars? As in inputting [6] mins and [30] seconds, and get a bar that does a countdown? |
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| 12:11.25 | Nemes_ | CandyBars |
| 12:11.40 | Nemes_ | it's a library to do countdown bars |
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| 12:12.17 | Morghus | I'll check it out, many thanks :)= |
| 12:12.20 | Morghus | *- = |
| 12:12.54 | Mikk | Morghus: That's just a library that addon authors can use when writing addons |
| 12:13.04 | Mikk | As for user-usable addons .... erm |
| 12:13.14 | Mikk | Well, bigwigs has a builtin for it, but that's only usable in raid |
| 12:13.17 | Nemes_ | deadly boss mods allows you to set a timer |
| 12:13.28 | Mikk | Unless you force bigwigs to load out-of-raid, ofc |
| 12:13.45 | Mikk | ~lart Nemes_ |
| 12:13.45 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P Nemes_' action |
| 12:13.47 | sylvanaar | Mikk a new column, wouldn't that just be worse? at least this way it sorts |
| 12:14.02 | Funkeh` | the chances of you having candy bars installed already are pretty high |
| 12:14.16 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Do you think CowTip could show the skinning difficulty on skinnable corpses? |
| 12:20.32 | Morghus | Wow... forcing oRa2 to load out of raids stops wow for a while Oo |
| 12:21.41 | Morghus | How do I make the timer bars in oRa2 ?=P |
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| 12:24.23 | nekoh | not packaged at least |
| 12:24.28 | nekoh | fc :X |
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| 12:25.04 | Method|Shive | Quartz cant filter out certain debuffs :( |
| 12:25.15 | Method|Shive | gah |
| 12:25.32 | Gngsk | dfilter can! |
| 12:25.58 | Method|Shive | whats that |
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| 12:28.11 | Method|Shive | why i'd like to see Mind Flay on my debuff list if it's arleady on casting bar -.- |
| 12:28.21 | Method|Shive | gah |
| 12:30.22 | Method|Shive | Gngsk: what's that dfilter, cant find it on files.wowace.com |
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| 12:32.50 | Morghus | You can find it on wowinterface.com |
| 12:33.13 | Method|Shive | yeh just noticed |
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| 12:34.26 | Saroz | What happened to CIA :( |
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| 12:40.55 | Recluse | yay! my first successful modification to an existing module to support what i wanted it to do lol |
| 12:40.58 | Method|Shive | : |
| 12:41.01 | Method|Shive | qq |
| 12:41.16 | Method|Shive | give proper working dot timer for spriest pls |
| 12:41.21 | Method|Shive | with filtering |
| 12:42.35 | [dRaCo] | doesnt classtimer do that? |
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| 12:43.33 | Method|Shive | new version works perfectly but it doesnt show Shadow Word: Pain apparently |
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| 12:50.16 | Morghus | hahaha. Found a timer. TimerFu ;D |
| 12:50.29 | Morghus | A pity it doesn't create a bar |
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| 12:55.44 | Method|Shive | nvm me, modified savedvariables and added sw:p manually |
| 12:55.46 | Method|Shive | it works now |
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| 13:12.10 | Firik | I wrote a small debuggin addon, here: http://home.wanadoo.nl/fam.dubbelboer/files/wow/CallLogger/ is a small description of how it works, I was wondering if something similar already exists, if not then I will import it to wowace |
| 13:12.44 | Firik | it logs function calls in a given namespace |
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| 13:14.54 | trh | hi |
| 13:15.03 | trh | someone with contact to a curse-technician here? =) |
| 13:21.33 | Tupsi3472 | i am confused about the version numbering of threat-1.0; the bottom line of Omen tells me a different number then the changelog |
| 13:21.45 | Tupsi3472 | is that intentional or did you just missed it? |
| 13:24.23 | Punkie` | Firik: I'm not sure but maybe Expo does something similar? |
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| 13:28.45 | sbu | <3 Saroz - thank you ;) |
| 13:28.48 | Saroz | :p |
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| 13:29.19 | Funkeh` | fuck you Saroz you suck |
| 13:29.23 | Saroz | :( |
| 13:29.35 | Saroz | where's the love |
| 13:29.36 | Funkeh` | gotta keep hes mood balanced or he goes man ya see |
| 13:29.41 | Funkeh` | mad* |
| 13:29.47 | sbu | oh hm |
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| 13:33.29 | Saroz | what does the "handler" var in AceOptions do? |
| 13:33.40 | Saroz | I have it set to sRaidFrames, but I still can't use self: |
| 13:34.00 | syeren | Someone needs to make Nurfed Arena Master work with Ace >_> |
| 13:34.01 | syeren | Etc. |
| 13:34.19 | Saroz | omg gonna see what nurfed it up to, been ages |
| 13:34.36 | Recluse | ckk's not around eh? T_T |
| 13:35.12 | syeren | Nurfed is pretty nice right now, and it has the best Arena Frames going. |
| 13:35.27 | syeren | Just you can't configure them if you don't use the Nurfed Suit. |
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| 13:36.20 | Saroz | Can't you make pitbull do the same? |
| 13:36.34 | sbu | syeren: mhh - there is an ace addon |
| 13:36.37 | sbu | wait |
| 13:36.38 | Saroz | Their frames are pretty nice though |
| 13:36.46 | syeren | Nurfed Arena Frames are amazing. |
| 13:36.50 | syeren | So much better than anything else. |
| 13:36.59 | sbu | syeren: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6930.0 |
| 13:37.01 | Saroz | screenshot? |
| 13:37.12 | syeren | Saroz it's really simple. |
| 13:37.17 | syeren | You have your 5 class lined up. |
| 13:37.22 | syeren | Class symbols. |
| 13:37.25 | syeren | And HP bars next to them. |
| 13:37.33 | syeren | You can set assist targets with them and stuff though. |
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| 13:38.04 | Saroz | see the link sbu posted |
| 13:39.12 | syeren | http://www.fabrikate.org/wow/bscap0016.jpg |
| 13:39.14 | syeren | There you are. |
| 13:39.17 | syeren | Bottom right hand ;p |
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| 13:40.05 | Saroz | hrm |
| 13:40.14 | sbu | mh, gladiator? |
| 13:40.16 | Saroz | Grayhoof pwns you, he will take care of it |
| 13:40.21 | sbu | hehe |
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| 13:45.00 | DvdKhl | Quick question: how is the Tag name which changes the background color (CowTip). Didn't find it in the wiki |
| 13:46.14 | syeren | Wow. |
| 13:46.20 | syeren | Proximo rapes sbu, thank you. |
| 13:47.11 | Saroz | hihi ace wins again |
| 13:47.25 | sbu | syeren: hmm screenshot? :o |
| 13:47.26 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: the latest WAU isn't even downloading anything |
| 13:47.33 | sbu | i have no idea how it looks like ;o |
| 13:47.40 | sbu | Funkeh`: it downloaded _every_ addon here ;o |
| 13:47.46 | sylvanaar | its supposed to |
| 13:47.50 | Funkeh` | sbu: it did that the frist time |
| 13:47.53 | sbu | hm yes |
| 13:47.55 | Funkeh` | now its downloading NOTHING |
| 13:48.02 | sbu | hm it worked here |
| 13:48.05 | sbu | updated sRaidFrames |
| 13:48.06 | sylvanaar | it downloads stuff for mwe |
| 13:48.16 | Funkeh` | im updating now and its not downlaod the altest dogtag |
| 13:48.20 | Funkeh` | it jsut skips it |
| 13:48.35 | sylvanaar | why? |
| 13:48.42 | Funkeh` | Update Complete (24/06/2007 14:49:40, total seconds: 2.17) |
| 13:48.43 | Funkeh` | Summary: 0 Updated, 0 Errors |
| 13:48.47 | sbu | oh changelog = all changes from current updaten in all updated addons? |
| 13:48.54 | sylvanaar | pastey me your log |
| 13:49.02 | sbu | <3 - no more google group reading every morning :) |
| 13:49.39 | syeren | http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/399/wowscrnshot062407144203au7.jpg |
| 13:49.39 | Azurewrath | i just parse CIA to a seperate window ;) |
| 13:49.42 | syeren | Proximo looks nice too. |
| 13:49.46 | syeren | So it's all good :p |
| 13:51.10 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/65307 |
| 13:51.14 | Funkeh` | notice the dogtag revision |
| 13:51.23 | Funkeh` | now http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/6bb42e07175a881c/3cc604e00f03d06c#3cc604e00f03d06c |
| 13:51.46 | Funkeh` | 41524 v 41547 |
| 13:52.26 | sylvanaar | update using F10 |
| 13:52.34 | Funkeh` | thats what i used |
| 13:52.38 | sylvanaar | no it isnt |
| 13:52.53 | Funkeh` | it is the -first- time i did it |
| 13:53.15 | Funkeh` | urg, i did an index reload and it works now |
| 13:53.24 | Funkeh` | seems it didn't do it automatically |
| 13:53.37 | sbu | sylvanaar: whats the reason for downloading every addon again? |
| 13:54.35 | Lywellyn | Azurewrath: How? |
| 13:55.26 | sylvanaar | because the version comparison says that versions with unknown external status are < those with known external status assuming the version number portion is equal |
| 13:56.07 | Chompers | nooooo my cowtip reset! |
| 13:56.12 | Azurewrath | Lywellyn: on *:TEXT:*:#wowace: { if ( CIA- isincs $nick ) { window -g1 @Ace-SVN Arial 11 -1,-1,-1,-1 | aline @Ace-SVN [ $+ $time $+ ] $1- } } |
| 13:56.22 | Azurewrath | if you use mIRC.. put it to your remote |
| 13:56.25 | trh | Chompers: guess it was in a bad MOOd ;) |
| 13:56.52 | Chompers | lame |
| 13:57.11 | Chompers | actually, i'm gonna steal that and use it elsewhere |
| 13:57.38 | sylvanaar | i guess i could change it to say that the version numbers are equal instead |
| 13:58.11 | Lywellyn | Okay, now to wait for a CIA message... |
| 13:58.31 | Azurewrath | can take a while, since CIA is down or something atm ;) |
| 13:58.39 | Lywellyn | What else is new. -.- |
| 13:59.49 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` it should say updating with AUTO externals when you use F10 |
| 14:00.07 | Awaa | Azurewrath: http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard02cw2.png :p |
| 14:00.46 | Azurewrath | Awaa: hehe :) |
| 14:01.06 | Lywellyn | Awaa: Ooh, I suppose that's to only filter out CIA's messages to that window if it's about one of the mods in that list? |
| 14:01.20 | Azurewrath | i thought about that.. but this way i don't miss new addons.. |
| 14:01.43 | Lywellyn | Could use two windows: One for ones you know, and another for all of them. |
| 14:01.44 | Awaa | It lists everything, but the mobs listed are shown in yellow |
| 14:01.46 | Funkeh` | those scripts don't really help when CIA is bust |
| 14:01.50 | Funkeh` | which is most of the day |
| 14:02.02 | Awaa | Funkeh` :p |
| 14:02.06 | Tupsi | cowtip: the tooltip is not vanishing after a timeout when i move away from the object. is that intentional? |
| 14:02.11 | Awaa | mods even =) |
| 14:02.46 | Awaa | My current window is empty so icant screenshot it |
| 14:03.55 | Tupsi | well to make it more clear, only when i target myself the tooltip stays till i target something else with the mouse |
| 14:05.54 | vrak | are there any addons that makes autoloot of DE'ing really work? |
| 14:06.04 | Killmore | http://ace.pastey.net/65324 |
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| 14:23.44 | Saroz | hrrm |
| 14:23.48 | Saroz | pitbull combattext is broke |
| 14:23.49 | Saroz | n |
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| 14:55.26 | Wixi | Is there a way in DogTags so it hides "Not Specified" for NPC's things |
| 14:55.57 | [dRaCo] | [~Tag:IsEqual(Not specified)?Tag] |
| 14:57.25 | Wixi | thanks soo much! |
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| 15:04.44 | Birdemani | is it elkbuffbar or elkbuffbars that is the latest version? |
| 15:06.30 | Awaa | files.wowace.com and look at dates |
| 15:06.40 | Birdemani | k |
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| 15:24.51 | Wixi | Anyone willing to help me work out why my target DogTag isn't working? |
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| 15:34.14 | Andune | hmm AceComm-41515 spewing 262: bad argument #2 to 'string_char' (invalid value) errors |
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| 15:34.59 | Andune | Tho I'm really happy about the way BugSack handles thousands of repeated errors like that. Pretty slick. :) |
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| 15:48.49 | Wobin | yeh =) |
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| 16:06.44 | Fisker- | Anyone remember the script command to bring up the mainmenu? |
| 16:06.53 | durcyn | ToggleGameMenu |
| 16:07.01 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 16:07.09 | hypetech | it's /exit iirc |
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| 16:08.30 | Fisker- | hypetech that was weak |
| 16:08.34 | Fisker- | no effort whatsoever |
| 16:09.09 | Chompers | what tag are you trying to use Wixi? |
| 16:09.31 | Fisker- | the least you could've said was using /camp |
| 16:09.34 | Fisker- | or /exit menu |
| 16:09.37 | Wixi | Chompers: Thanks, solved it now though |
| 16:09.39 | Fisker- | something stupid like that |
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| 16:09.51 | Wixi | Chompers: DogTags disagree with me, i swear |
| 16:10.08 | Chompers | ;) |
| 16:12.47 | Fisker- | haha |
| 16:12.53 | Fisker- | cartographer has been targetted for keyloggers |
| 16:12.54 | Fisker- | gg |
| 16:12.57 | Chompers | :O |
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| 16:13.28 | Chompers | Cartographer.2.0.exe |
| 16:13.31 | Fisker- | Sponsoring Registrar:Beijing Innovative Linkage Technology Ltd. (R1292-LROR) <-wut lol? |
| 16:14.00 | Tupsi | where did they put it? |
| 16:14.05 | Thrae | Chompers: Uhh, maybe that's because Cartography is a real word too... |
| 16:14.56 | Fisker- | OH FUCKING LOL |
| 16:15.21 | Fisker- | haha |
| 16:15.31 | Fisker- | they put the virus in the lod script |
| 16:16.18 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 16:16.57 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 16:16.59 | Funkeh` | ouch |
| 16:17.12 | Tupsi | thats worth 10min of /golfclap |
| 16:17.13 | Chompers | where from Fisker? |
| 16:17.21 | Chompers | not curse gaming again |
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| 16:18.04 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:18.14 | Fisker- | wow forums ofcourse |
| 16:18.37 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298891089&sid=1 |
| 16:18.45 | Fisker- | the domain is funny |
| 16:18.47 | Fisker- | Sponsoring Registrar:Beijing Innovative Linkage Technology Ltd. (R1292-LROR) <-wut lol? |
| 16:18.56 | Fisker- | from the domain whois :P |
| 16:19.04 | Fisker- | Innovative Linkage omfg |
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| 16:20.17 | hypetech | that thread is on my realm forums as well |
| 16:20.44 | hypetech | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112415153&sid=1 |
| 16:21.17 | Funkeh` | ty fisker |
| 16:21.24 | Funkeh` | submited to AV labs :) |
| 16:21.32 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 16:22.00 | Funkeh` | should help spread new AV updates |
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| 16:22.08 | hypetech | oh yay, now Cartographer is a virus :p |
| 16:23.21 | sleepypuppy | so.. just wanted to see who else is using Recount, and are you in love with it like I am? ;) |
| 16:23.45 | hypetech | what is recount? |
| 16:23.57 | Yinchie | prefer violation, recount somehow uses alot of mem? |
| 16:24.00 | sleepypuppy | a damage meters replacement |
| 16:24.24 | hypetech | well until something else sends my data to everybody using sws, I can't replace my damage meter |
| 16:24.45 | Yinchie | since when is damage meter needed for raiding :P |
| 16:24.51 | Codayus | Tell them to increase their log range. Syncing is overated. |
| 16:25.03 | Codayus | So is SWS come to that... :-p |
| 16:25.34 | hypetech | well the mages occasionally wager gold on top damage :p |
| 16:25.38 | hypetech | competition breeds success |
| 16:26.08 | Yinchie | heh mages never gotten top dmg in our raids, usually lock or rogue ^^ |
| 16:26.08 | kovi | and overaggro |
| 16:26.08 | Fin | and greed |
| 16:26.30 | Yinchie | epeen power |
| 16:26.41 | hypetech | aggro pull is DQ |
| 16:26.50 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 16:26.54 | hypetech | raid survival takes priority over side bets |
| 16:26.57 | hypetech | we're not stupid |
| 16:26.58 | hypetech | heh |
| 16:27.24 | hypetech | our tanks are very good and we have invisibilty |
| 16:27.34 | Codayus | My guild considered doing that back during MC farm days to try and keep people awake, but ran into issues...mages needed to decurse on several fights, for example. |
| 16:27.43 | hypetech | only aggro pulls in our guild are warlock dots when during an aggro wipe on the tank :( |
| 16:27.47 | Codayus | So the idea never went anywhere. |
| 16:27.58 | hypetech | ya, fights like that we can't do it |
| 16:28.09 | Codayus | I was - VERY BRIEFLY - involved in one guild which awarded DKP for topping the meters. |
| 16:28.17 | hypetech | haven't seen a lot of TBC bosses where mages have to decurse :( |
| 16:28.18 | Codayus | Not kidding. >< |
| 16:28.21 | hypetech | wow |
| 16:28.31 | Codayus | And not just DPS meters, but healing meters. |
| 16:28.34 | hypetech | lol |
| 16:28.42 | hypetech | I smell wasted mana on overheals |
| 16:29.06 | Codayus | I split; I think they actually downed Onyxia a few weeks later. |
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| 16:37.19 | sbu | Codayus: haha :o |
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| 16:37.40 | Hjalte | Hmm, files.wowace.com very slow today? |
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| 16:37.54 | sbu | so all priests spamming renew on group and shammies spamming chain heal :o |
| 16:38.37 | Wogroipl | Hjalte: it's slow for me too :( |
| 16:39.32 | Fisker- | nice |
| 16:39.45 | Fisker- | the iphone is already being shot down by gadget entuists |
| 16:42.10 | Hjalte | Uh.. Is Kaelten working actively with KC_Items, now that he moved the ace2 version to trunk? |
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| 16:43.06 | Fisker- | :O? |
| 16:43.41 | Azurewrath | baaah... i hate users.. |
| 16:44.05 | Fisker- | oh lol |
| 16:44.15 | Fisker- | Apple really has to stoop down to make people understand i guess |
| 16:44.50 | Fisker- | "Pressing the homebutton at any time from anywhere brings you back to the homescreen" |
| 16:44.57 | Fisker- | That's probably why it's called the HOME BUTTON |
| 16:46.06 | DesertDwarf | Hmm...if you were told by your boss to write documentation for every button, what would you write? |
| 16:47.02 | Fisker- | I'm not talking about the name of the button |
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| 16:47.19 | Fisker- | I just find it odd that he has to mention it goes to home from anywhere, and at anytime |
| 16:47.25 | Fisker- | It wasn't a damn homebutton if it couldn't |
| 16:47.26 | DesertDwarf | Neither am I. (Points to what I wrote.) |
| 16:47.47 | dodgizzla | Hm, the author of MSBT isn't around here? :D |
| 16:47.56 | Nickenyfiken | It's not a Ace addon |
| 16:48.12 | Fisker- | he's visited here a long time ago |
| 16:48.15 | Nickenyfiken | maybe in #wowi-lounge |
| 16:48.16 | Fisker- | but doesn't come here anymore |
| 16:48.35 | dodgizzla | Nickenyfiken: So? Are only authors of Ace addons allowed here? :> |
| 16:48.50 | dodgizzla | If so, kick clad out! :> |
| 16:51.09 | Fisker- | best idea ever dodgizzla |
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| 16:53.24 | Gnarfoz | didn't he have part in the creation of it? oO |
| 16:53.34 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:53.40 | Nickenyfiken | dodgizzla: No i guess not but i just thought it was a bigger chanse to find him somewhere else. |
| 16:54.03 | Gnarfoz | now to move all unnecessary stuff outside of my wow folder |
| 16:54.05 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah that too, still a member of Ace dev team right? |
| 16:54.08 | Yinchie | hrmm Omen keeps resetting position... |
| 16:54.22 | Gnarfoz | after I heard how wow reads _every_ file inside it's dirs |
| 16:54.38 | dodgizzla | Nickenyfiken: Yeah, I'm just being silly here :> |
| 16:55.00 | trh | Fisker-: hey.. now you know how programmers feel if the have to document every single get function, like getCurrentList() - gets the current list, @return the current list ;) |
| 16:55.40 | Cryect | rats no adrielle |
| 16:56.00 | Fisker- | trh i already know it |
| 16:56.01 | Fisker- | :) |
| 16:56.33 | Gnarfoz | from 3920 to 3370 files |
| 16:56.38 | Gnarfoz | wonder if that'll speed it up any |
| 16:56.55 | Nickenyfiken | dodgizzla: :-) |
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| 16:57.09 | Nickenyfiken | Yinchie: I got the same problem |
| 16:57.44 | Fisker- | lol |
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| 16:57.56 | Fisker- | "iphone is the first phone to deliver internet in your pocket" |
| 16:58.06 | DesertDwarf | Really? It actually says that? |
| 16:58.07 | Gnarfoz | he doesn't quite say that exactly |
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| 16:58.23 | Mech0z | Cryect recount getting sync soon? |
| 16:58.50 | Gnarfoz | it has sync, just not as sync-ish as you'd expect, last I read |
| 16:58.55 | trh | that apexis emanations quest is sooooo easy if you can just write the order of the lights down (i use 1234 :) |
| 16:59.03 | Fisker- | Well "The Iphone, for the first time in history, delivers the internet in your pocket" |
| 16:59.04 | Fisker- | then |
| 16:59.06 | Mech0z | Gnarfoz and that means what? |
| 16:59.18 | Fisker- | It's still a stupid statement |
| 16:59.27 | Gnarfoz | Mech0z: dunno, can't remember ;D something like syncing only full data sets or something |
| 16:59.32 | DesertDwarf | Ahh. :-) |
| 16:59.59 | Mech0z | ehm right :) |
| 17:00.01 | Gnarfoz | of course, the iPhone delivers it for the first time now, because before, it didn't because it didn't exist :D |
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| 17:00.18 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 17:00.24 | DesertDwarf | :-) |
| 17:00.29 | Fisker- | cause the iphone obviously has a history |
| 17:00.29 | Fisker- | :D |
| 17:00.35 | Gnarfoz | oh yeah |
| 17:00.42 | trh | apple invented the inernetz!!!11eleven |
| 17:00.51 | Gnarfoz | I could move my screenshots folder outside of the wow folder |
| 17:00.53 | Fisker- | NO |
| 17:00.55 | DesertDwarf | No, Al Gore did. |
| 17:00.55 | Fisker- | it was al gore |
| 17:00.56 | Gnarfoz | but wow will just recreate it |
| 17:00.59 | DesertDwarf | Hehe |
| 17:01.52 | Gnarfoz | ~wake Antiarc|Sleeping |
| 17:01.53 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on Antiarc|Sleeping and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 17:01.58 | Gnarfoz | purl does it better |
| 17:01.59 | Gnarfoz | =P |
| 17:02.07 | sylvanaar | dont use many svn checked out addons in your addon folder, that will reduce the number of files alot |
| 17:02.10 | DesertDwarf | Nickenyfiken: Yeah, me too. He went to bed before me. |
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| 17:02.30 | Fisker- | The SMS feature is pretty neat though |
| 17:02.32 | Fisker- | i'll give them that |
| 17:02.45 | DesertDwarf | How's it different? |
| 17:02.53 | Fisker- | it has a conversation log instead |
| 17:03.03 | Fisker- | of some sorts |
| 17:03.32 | Gnarfoz | hm did someone touch the entire svn since yesterday? |
| 17:03.35 | DesertDwarf | Oh. My Treo 650 did that and my 700p does it in an even prettier way. I just got the 700p, so I'm still getting used to the new way it does conversation stuff. |
| 17:03.47 | Fisker- | no Gnarfoz |
| 17:03.58 | Gnarfoz | or ace2 itself? ^^ |
| 17:04.00 | Fisker- | but WAU 1.9.6 will redownload all addons to integrate some feature |
| 17:04.03 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 17:04.05 | Gnarfoz | 1.9.9 even |
| 17:04.09 | Fisker- | :o |
| 17:04.12 | Fisker- | 1.9.6 will too |
| 17:04.15 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 17:04.45 | sleepypuppy | yeah I got 176 updated addons today with the new WAU |
| 17:04.48 | sleepypuppy | O.o |
| 17:04.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, 130 + 1 erro |
| 17:04.52 | Gnarfoz | r |
| 17:04.57 | Gnarfoz | gotta see what error that is :D |
| 17:05.15 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: the current WAU doesn't make links of the URLs in the log anymore :( |
| 17:05.27 | sylvanaar | nope |
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| 17:05.40 | Gnarfoz | was easier then opening it from the menu ^^ |
| 17:06.11 | sylvanaar | use the shortcut keys |
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| 17:06.15 | Gnarfoz | ah, the error was no error. seems it tried updating Threat-1.0 twice |
| 17:06.20 | Gnarfoz | and one thread failed |
| 17:06.22 | Gnarfoz | or something |
| 17:06.29 | Kalman| | Hjalte: The Ace2 KC_Items was trunked? |
| 17:06.30 | sylvanaar | 1.9.9 |
| 17:06.54 | Hjalte | Kalman|: Yep. |
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| 17:07.04 | Gnarfoz | got 1.9.9.384 =) |
| 17:07.15 | DesertDwarf | I use GrimoireKeeper on my 'lock. It's not an Ace addon. Anybody know if there's something similar for Ace? (It colors grimoire at vendor: red = can't learn yet; green = can learn and don't have; yellow (I think?) = already known). |
| 17:07.20 | Kalman| | Awesome. I've been using the branch for a while with no major errors, nice to know it's one less thing I have to check on. |
| 17:07.45 | sylvanaar | hm... you have your log with it updating threat twice? |
| 17:07.47 | Gnarfoz | DesertDwarf: does it have any performance problems or unfinished features? |
| 17:08.19 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: yes, one fail, one success; the per-thread log shows one of them getting an system.io exception about the file being in use (the temporary zip file) |
| 17:08.32 | Hjalte | DesertDwarf, prepare for the "It doesn't have to be Ace to be good"-speech :p |
| 17:08.51 | Gnarfoz | shush! I was trying to be discrete :< |
| 17:08.56 | Kalman| | Is there a ~ for that yet? ~aceisnotgod or something? |
| 17:08.56 | DesertDwarf | No, it doesn't have any problems that I know. |
| 17:09.12 | Kalman| | Gnarfoz: I do not think that word means what you think it means. ;) |
| 17:09.30 | Gnarfoz | Kalman|: possibly, got an alternate suggestion? :) |
| 17:09.34 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de discrete |
| 17:09.37 | Kalman| | Discreet. |
| 17:09.40 | Gnarfoz | oh. |
| 17:09.40 | DesertDwarf | Kalman|: Subtle? |
| 17:09.40 | sleepypuppy | I am sure this gets asked a million times a day, but is there a really good Auctioneer replacement built with Ace? |
| 17:09.44 | sylvanaar | can you pastey |
| 17:09.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah of course, discrete means separated |
| 17:10.16 | Kalman| | Discreet is the one you were looking for; subtle, quiet, diplomatic. |
| 17:10.20 | Gnarfoz | subtle or discreet would have been correct |
| 17:10.55 | Cryect | Kalman|: wth is with everyone stealing your avatars? |
| 17:11.07 | Kalman| | Cryect: I have no idea. |
| 17:11.10 | Kalman| | No. Idea. |
| 17:11.19 | Kalman| | Although give me credit, the Mycon one is awesome. |
| 17:11.23 | Cryect | I was like looking 2 days ago and there was like 5 people with it :-p |
| 17:11.49 | DesertDwarf | I was asking about a replacement for GrimoireKeeper for resource management. I didn't know if some of the fuctionality could come from Ace libraries. |
| 17:11.51 | Cryect | so many classic game pics at the moment |
| 17:11.55 | Kalman| | I think I switched to the Mycon, Proe stole the Kalman, then a couple other people picked it up for the amusement value. Now I think there's 3-4 followers of Juffo-Wup. |
| 17:12.13 | Kalman| | I'm just happy I could link a few people to TUQM who never played SC2. That game was so good. |
| 17:12.22 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/65461 |
| 17:12.34 | Gnarfoz | interesting checks they've got for pasteys with URLs in them ^^ |
| 17:12.59 | sylvanaar | have you tried uninstalling !!!SAL to see if autodeps will load everything |
| 17:13.37 | Gnarfoz | can do that, let me check |
| 17:14.48 | Gnarfoz | ehm, doesn't update anything of course :D |
| 17:15.30 | DesertDwarf | Is your default mode at "without externals"? |
| 17:15.39 | Gnarfoz | yes :) |
| 17:15.46 | DesertDwarf | OK? |
| 17:15.49 | Gnarfoz | turned on auto-deps now, too |
| 17:15.57 | Gnarfoz | haven't been in the options dialog for some versions ^^ |
| 17:15.57 | DesertDwarf | Hehe |
| 17:16.07 | DesertDwarf | Yeah, it changed a lot recently. |
| 17:16.08 | Gnarfoz | no errors |
| 17:16.33 | Gnarfoz | and all addons detected correctly as no externals |
| 17:16.43 | Gnarfoz | could have been a one-time fluke (race condition?) |
| 17:17.22 | sylvanaar | yeah, though i fixed most of the race conditions in 1.9.9 which is why i was interested |
| 17:17.49 | Gnarfoz | i'll keep an eye on it if it happens again =) |
| 17:18.01 | Lyfe | where is v1.9.9? the latest i can seem to run into is 1.9.3. |
| 17:18.03 | DesertDwarf | By the way, for the last few days, there are two versions in the downloads area. Why? |
| 17:18.12 | DesertDwarf | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=178751&package_id=206265&release_id=517631 |
| 17:18.16 | Gnarfoz | Lyfe: same place as usual, it's below the other ones in the same group |
| 17:18.21 | Gnarfoz | lol I like ckk's commit notes on the last few ace2 commits... |
| 17:18.37 | Gnarfoz | slight optimization, another optimization and "potential optimization" :D |
| 17:18.59 | DesertDwarf | Lyfe: Did you get the URL? |
| 17:19.23 | Lyfe | that's wierd.. i still only see 1.9.2 and 1.9.3 |
| 17:19.34 | Lyfe | and, yes. |
| 17:19.36 | DesertDwarf | I see 1.9.3 and 1.9.9 on my screen. |
| 17:20.13 | DesertDwarf | Lyfe: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wowaceupdater/WowAceUpdater-1.9.9-bin.zip?modtime=1182683129&big_mirror=0 |
| 17:20.23 | DesertDwarf | That's a direct link to the actual download page. |
| 17:20.39 | Lyfe | baffling. |
| 17:20.57 | DesertDwarf | Browser cache have an old copy of the page? |
| 17:21.10 | Method|Shive | ctrl+f5 |
| 17:21.18 | Method|Shive | and it will reload from inet |
| 17:21.21 | Lyfe | thanks, desertdwarf. |
| 17:21.30 | DesertDwarf | You're most welcome. |
| 17:21.36 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: funny, it also created the changelog section for Threat-1.0 twice in the changelog |
| 17:21.56 | _art3mis | www.pidgin.im |
| 17:21.59 | DesertDwarf | And try the first link again followed by CTRL+F5 as Mithod|Shive susggested. |
| 17:22.07 | _art3mis | for those wanting a miranda/trillian replacement |
| 17:22.21 | Lyfe | well, how about that, it was cached. who'd have thunk it between browser quit/restart. |
| 17:22.21 | DesertDwarf | art3mis: I just got that last night. It's not bad! |
| 17:22.32 | art3mis | heh yeah its the GAIM guys |
| 17:22.47 | art3mis | the branched off since open-ssl doesnt suipport thier same licence |
| 17:22.48 | Gnarfoz | it's gaim |
| 17:22.50 | DesertDwarf | Yeah. I was searching for GAIM when I found it. |
| 17:22.52 | art3mis | nope |
| 17:22.57 | art3mis | its non openssl gaim ;P |
| 17:23.02 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 17:23.03 | art3mis | theres a slight difference |
| 17:23.07 | DesertDwarf | Yes. |
| 17:23.08 | Gnarfoz | gaim changed name to pidgin because of aol |
| 17:23.45 | art3mis | gaim used openssl, but because of its licencing they no longer support it |
| 17:23.50 | art3mis | its still nice though |
| 17:24.05 | art3mis | i hope they add in the fetaure of weather like miranda has |
| 17:24.17 | Gnarfoz | weather has no place in my IM client :D |
| 17:24.21 | art3mis | it does for me |
| 17:24.25 | art3mis | ;) |
| 17:24.27 | Gnarfoz | I'd like trillian to be updated sometime now :< |
| 17:24.28 | DesertDwarf | Gnarfoz: I agree. |
| 17:24.37 | Gnarfoz | they take ages to release new versions :D |
| 17:24.45 | DesertDwarf | If ya want weather, get a gadget. |
| 17:25.00 | art3mis | heh using emerge as my desktop right now |
| 17:25.10 | art3mis | i'd rather weather stay in my IM and no-where else |
| 17:25.23 | DesertDwarf | I'd rather they not mess with plugins and bloat. |
| 17:25.28 | Gnarfoz | actually, I tend to look out of the window for weather :D |
| 17:25.44 | art3mis | the sun burns me ;) |
| 17:25.54 | art3mis | hehe actually i use it for quick F -> C conversion |
| 17:26.02 | art3mis | instead of having to wake up and do math |
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| 17:26.09 | Gnarfoz | reminds me of this one |
| 17:26.09 | Gnarfoz | http://www.3dsupply.de/shop/detail.php?PID=00000492 |
| 17:26.11 | DesertDwarf | Google? |
| 17:26.18 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz, I'm alpha-testing the new Trillian release :> |
| 17:26.26 | art3mis | too much typing |
| 17:26.26 | Gnarfoz | I only do Celsius stuff, yay Europe :D |
| 17:26.38 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: good/bad/horrid? :D |
| 17:26.54 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz, a little unstable :) |
| 17:27.00 | art3mis | trillian is a bloated ugly monster imo |
| 17:27.05 | DesertDwarf | Trillian's too bloated since 3.0. I want something more light-weight. |
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| 17:27.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's certainly not slim |
| 17:27.22 | trh | miranda is nice |
| 17:27.27 | art3mis | yeah |
| 17:27.35 | art3mis | i kind of wish pidgin skinned better though |
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| 17:27.47 | art3mis | a lot of the "look" of it seems a tad bulky to me |
| 17:28.06 | DesertDwarf | art3mis: Leave pidgin alone. Can we please have at least one IM client that's not bloated? |
| 17:28.20 | art3mis | skinning doesnt take much |
| 17:28.26 | Kalman| | DesertDwarf: No. IM clients are destined to grow fat and ugly as time goes on. |
| 17:28.29 | DesertDwarf | I'd rather it take none. |
| 17:28.30 | art3mis | and miranda isnt really bloaty |
| 17:28.38 | DesertDwarf | That's true. :-) |
| 17:28.42 | art3mis | unless you've got everything loaded ;P |
| 17:28.48 | art3mis | which is just retarded |
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| 17:29.06 | DesertDwarf | Hi Addirelle. |
| 17:29.11 | art3mis | i switched to pigin so my nix client and windows client would play nice ;P |
| 17:29.36 | DesertDwarf | Cool. |
| 17:29.42 | Lyfe | yes. more bloat! just look at apple's ichat.. now not only does it offer video chat, but you can do effects in the video. or share your desktop. or .. yes.. bloat! |
| 17:29.58 | Gnarfoz | only way I'm switching my IM (pun -.-) would be if the new one was able to keep using trillian's log files |
| 17:30.41 | Kalman| | Lyfe: For all that, I still use iChat. :/ |
| 17:30.52 | trh | i used trillian a long time ago.. but when they didn't implemented server based contact lists while nearly every other client could do it i switched |
| 17:31.33 | Lyfe | actually, it is really f'ing neat, so. :) |
| 17:31.52 | Lyfe | i have a friend from college that uses ichat to talk to his parents & friends from home. |
| 17:32.11 | Kalman| | That and I think the video effects aren't part of iChat proper, but some other part of OS X that iChat integrates for video stuff, since photobooth has the same functionality. |
| 17:32.17 | trh | lyfe: yeah.. if you want to videochat it's nice |
| 17:32.21 | art3mis | anyone running suse btw? |
| 17:32.24 | Lyfe | yeah, it is, kalman. |
| 17:32.29 | trh | Lyfe: but it's called instant MESSAGE(ing) |
| 17:33.16 | DesertDwarf | trh: Actually, in iChat's case, it's called "chatting". :-) |
| 17:33.53 | trh | anyway... they should just build videochat as a loadable module |
| 17:34.03 | trh | not integrate every f* thing in one big application |
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| 17:34.45 | Lyfe | *shrug* |
| 17:34.52 | trh | omg.. i hate screaming kids in the summer when you gotta have your windows open or would otherwise melting down |
| 17:34.56 | Lyfe | they don't call ichat an instant messenger. |
| 17:36.09 | Adirelle | trh: buy a rifle... er... wait... I didn't say that |
| 17:36.31 | trh | Adirelle: you can't buy them without a special license in germany.... :( |
| 17:36.34 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/may.html |
| 17:37.07 | Mech0z | what is the recount raid dps command? |
| 17:37.15 | trh | yeah.. vanaskos gained 3 ranks... weltherrschaft! |
| 17:38.52 | Fisker- | Fin you fail |
| 17:39.21 | Cryect | Adirelle: Curious how easy is it adding DamageMeters/SWStats/Violation support thinking of using their data just for the main window mode in Recount |
| 17:40.53 | Dustwhisper | suggest some timermods that'll time anything from sheep to fire vulnerability to banish to dots |
| 17:40.54 | Adirelle | Kaelten: "Only one download per IP is counted." i.e. 176k "users" downloaded Carto at least once ? |
| 17:41.50 | Cryect | Mech0z: Its /recount realtime raid dps |
| 17:41.50 | trh | Kaelten: what does the "WowAceUpdater Users" entry mean? |
| 17:42.24 | Adirelle | Cryect: not easy :p |
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| 17:42.29 | Fisker- | unless it doesn't take into count revision numbers and so forth Adirelle |
| 17:42.43 | Kaelten | Adirelle: roughly |
| 17:42.46 | Cryect | Adirelle: Heh yeah I figuredd you say that :-p |
| 17:42.47 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 17:42.59 | Kaelten | trh: it should be estimated updater users. |
| 17:43.03 | Adirelle | Cryect: forget DM for real-time, most of the time it only syncs at end of combat |
| 17:43.06 | Mikk | Kaelten: reenable CIA? |
| 17:43.19 | trh | Kaelten: for the whole month? |
| 17:43.19 | Cryect | Yeah, besides I barely know anyone who actually uses DM |
| 17:43.30 | Kaelten | trh: ya |
| 17:43.37 | trh | Kaelten: k :) |
| 17:43.40 | Kaelten | although half that month we didn't use latest.xml |
| 17:43.54 | Kalman| | Cryect: I did, til Recount was usable. |
| 17:43.54 | Lyfe | are there any WAU maintainer-type people here? |
| 17:43.58 | trh | Kaelten: would explain why it's not #1 |
| 17:44.07 | Kaelten | yep |
| 17:44.09 | Mikk | Lyfe: sylvanaar for current (1.9), kaelten for 2.0 (which is only in beta) |
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| 17:44.16 | Adirelle | Cryect: moreover, Violation only sends sums, you won't have detailled spell usages (if Recount is syncing them, doesn't it ?) |
| 17:44.30 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/output.html for this month to date |
| 17:44.40 | Mech0z | Cryect pet/player merge coming soon? :o |
| 17:45.12 | Lyfe | ahh, nevermind, i just answered my own question. |
| 17:45.15 | Kaelten | Mikk: CIA is renabled |
| 17:45.20 | Kaelten | just now. |
| 17:45.21 | Mikk | cheers |
| 17:45.29 | Adirelle | Cryect: you may have them from SWS, but I don't know how |
| 17:45.45 | Kaelten | I'm thinking about breaking up KCI into modules |
| 17:46.00 | Kaelten | using embeds.xml and .wau ect |
| 17:46.01 | Gnarfoz | what's the scope of KCI, anyway? |
| 17:46.03 | Cryect | Mech0z: yes, its actually in on my version |
| 17:46.08 | Mech0z | nice |
| 17:46.14 | art3mis | do any of you run SuSE? |
| 17:46.17 | Gnarfoz | when finished, will it be able to replace Auctioneer/ |
| 17:46.29 | |Kev| | Kaelten: just wau, or all updaters? |
| 17:46.33 | Cryect | Adirelle: Yeah I know its only sums so would only use it for the main window (which doesn't have detail info though its easy to give it the detail info if wanted) |
| 17:46.37 | Mech0z | did you make it with 2 different taps if you click the player? so you can easily seperate them |
| 17:46.57 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz yes |
| 17:47.06 | Kaelten | |Kev|: all updaters actually |
| 17:47.09 | Gnarfoz | wahhh |
| 17:47.10 | Cryect | At the moment it just combines the pet damage numbers with the owner numbers on the window list |
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| 17:47.21 | Cryect | I need to add Tooltip stuff etc as well |
| 17:47.22 | |Kev| | Kaelten: righty :) |
| 17:47.35 | Cryect | hence I've not released it since added it in at 3:30 am :-p |
| 17:47.38 | Kaelten | it uses counts fo the latest.xml and latest-noect.xml to come to that number |
| 17:47.41 | Kaelten | er ext |
| 17:47.52 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: port CowTips anchoring to TinyTip, pretty please? :D it seems to have working 'I want the tooltip below and to the right of my cursor' positioning, even with different size tooltips |
| 17:47.55 | |Kev| | yes, I should really start using latest.xml :$ |
| 17:47.57 | Cryect | and wth at this guy thinking he's going to get 2 decimal accuracy with the data you get from a raid >_> |
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| 17:48.12 | Cryect | I be surprised to get 1 decimal accuracy for anything but melee |
| 17:48.22 | Gnarfoz | as if 0 decimal wasn't accurate enough xD |
| 17:48.54 | Cryect | Heh I should setup recount to tell you the likely error in the data :-p |
| 17:49.09 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 17:49.21 | Cryect | Except I have to pull out my stat books and reread up on stats >_> |
| 17:49.34 | shieldb | hmm, is there a spellalert type module for MSBT? |
| 17:49.40 | Cryect | looked at some equation then went hmm I forget what all the parts mean in it |
| 17:49.47 | Kalman| | shieldb: WitchHunt supports MSBT output. |
| 17:50.07 | shieldb | I will be looking into this immediately :D |
| 17:50.40 | shieldb | I like MSBT a lot better then SCT just due to it condensing multiple hits so I don't have a wall of text, but I was really missing spell alert :) |
| 17:50.44 | Adirelle | wondering... |
| 17:50.48 | Adirelle | ~x fr en quenelles |
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| 17:50.57 | Adirelle | lol |
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| 17:51.51 | Kalman| | Adirelle: According to the wikipedia definition for a quenelle, there's really no direct translation. |
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| 17:53.20 | Adirelle | Kalman|: I think that it is like hamburger |
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| 17:53.57 | Kalman| | Eh, kinda. Hamburger is coarsely ground beef; quenelles are a finer ground spiced meat/fish, yeah? |
| 17:55.13 | Adirelle | Kalman|: yep, but the word itself is barely translated |
| 17:55.23 | Adirelle | Kalman|: like the word "kebab" |
| 17:55.50 | Adirelle | (was thinking of this because I warming up 4 quenelles in my oven) |
| 17:55.51 | Kalman| | Adirelle: Kebab translates quite well. I translate it as "delicious". :) |
| 17:56.07 | Cryect | I need to create a list of planned features so people stop the same ones :-p |
| 17:56.16 | Cryect | and to make sure I remember them |
| 17:56.48 | Gnarfoz | heh, damn |
| 17:56.50 | trh | kebaps are great! |
| 17:56.57 | Gnarfoz | CowTip is already quite amazing |
| 17:57.19 | trh | although they are usually called 'döner' in germany ;) |
| 17:57.32 | Gnarfoz | actually |
| 17:57.37 | Gnarfoz | doener is just one sort of kebab |
| 17:57.41 | Mikk | Cryect: www.wowace.com/wiki/YourAddon/wishlist |
| 17:57.47 | Gnarfoz | which is why it's called Doener Kebab sometimes ^^ |
| 17:57.48 | Mikk | ^ Wikis are kinda made for this |
| 17:57.51 | trh | Gnarfoz: yeah.. there's dürüm too =) |
| 17:58.07 | Kalman| | doener is a specific type of meat, or? |
| 17:58.17 | trh | Gnarfoz: but most germany call a kebap "döner" regardless of what it really is ;) |
| 17:58.35 | Gnarfoz | yea ^^ |
| 17:58.39 | trh | Kalman|: i think it only means that's in a bread and not rolled ;) |
| 17:58.50 | Gnarfoz | or on a plate, or whatever |
| 17:59.17 | Adirelle | kebab is the base, and there is several varieties of it |
| 17:59.17 | trh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6ner_kebab |
| 17:59.23 | Adirelle | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab |
| 17:59.24 | trh | oh.. they even got that in english =) |
| 17:59.50 | Flambeau | Gyro meat? |
| 17:59.54 | trh | Adirelle: yeah.. but i guess americans rarely use the word "döner" due to it's pronounciation ;) |
| 18:00.01 | Mikk | "doehner" |
| 18:00.20 | Adirelle | I'm realizing i'd rather ask purl to translate than using google tools |
| 18:00.30 | Adirelle | ~x fr en écrevisse |
| 18:01.57 | Flambeau | crawfish? |
| 18:01.58 | Adirelle | ~x fr en sauce à l'écrevisse |
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| 18:02.08 | trh | damn.. that kebap talk made me hungry... afk, getting food =) |
| 18:02.34 | Adirelle | Flambeau: yep, crayfish, crawfish or crawdad |
| 18:02.52 | Flambeau | a crawfish and crawdad are different |
| 18:03.04 | Adirelle | I'm gonna eat my quenelles with rice and crawfish sauce... |
| 18:03.05 | Adirelle | er... |
| 18:03.11 | Adirelle | brb |
| 18:03.11 | Adirelle | :p |
| 18:03.21 | Gnarfoz | trh: vanaskos's lines are getting removed from CowTip's tooltip after about a second - bug ckknight or bug you? ^^ |
| 18:03.28 | art3mis | or ugly inland lobster ;P |
| 18:03.46 | trh | Gnarfoz: i don't know.. i heard that already, but i couldn't reproduce it |
| 18:03.48 | Adirelle | Flambeau: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfish, there are not |
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| 18:04.03 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41560 10Violation/ (Violation.lua locales/enUS.lua): Violation: AceOptions table: Add isChecked/onClick to window names to be able to toggle them on/off quickly |
| 18:04.04 | Gnarfoz | weird o_O |
| 18:04.10 | trh | Gnarfoz: but basically i only call a gametooltip:AddLine("text") and show it again (so it sizes itself correctly) |
| 18:04.15 | art3mis | crawdad is a smaller(slightly) version, and mainly a slang term |
| 18:04.17 | trh | Gnancy: so i can't imagine it's my fault ^^ |
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| 18:04.29 | trh | Gnarfoz not Gnancy |
| 18:04.33 | Fin | 39g left |
| 18:04.35 | Gnarfoz | it's quite reproducable for me - hover over a player, tooltip appears and has the pvp stats line, stay above the unit, line disappears ^^ |
| 18:04.36 | Fin | I'm so poor |
| 18:04.43 | art3mis | you get a l;ine i'll get a pole we'll go fishing in a crawdad hole |
| 18:04.48 | Fin | poor but fast |
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| 18:05.00 | trh | Gnarfoz: yeah.. i tried that with different settings in cowtip, it always worked, never disappeared |
| 18:05.03 | art3mis | bought yer epic? |
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| 18:05.10 | Gnarfoz | huh. |
| 18:05.16 | Fin | yup |
| 18:05.20 | Awaa | Hm, Cant you scale ElkanoBuffBars? |
| 18:05.21 | Gnarfoz | using default settings right now, trh |
| 18:05.29 | art3mis | it rules soooo much over the basic eh? |
| 18:05.33 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Ping |
| 18:05.34 | trh | Gnarfoz: used them the first time.. worked perfectly :) |
| 18:05.37 | art3mis | why didnt you just grind for the netherdrake |
| 18:05.39 | Fin | it's like... going from modem to broadband |
| 18:05.56 | [Ammo] | Mikk: pong |
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| 18:06.01 | Gnarfoz | I'd try resetting vanaskos's SVs, but then I'd have no pvp stats :D |
| 18:06.06 | Mikk | I was wondering ... Violation and AceDB |
| 18:06.13 | [Ammo] | yes? |
| 18:06.17 | Mikk | WTB? =) |
| 18:06.23 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 18:06.31 | Mikk | Ability to select profiles, that is |
| 18:06.36 | [Ammo] | it's on char profile |
| 18:06.37 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 18:06.43 | [Ammo] | and that's fine |
| 18:06.46 | Mikk | Yeah, but I have lots of chars :S |
| 18:06.50 | trh | Gnarfoz: please try while mouseovering someone (standing still!) |
| 18:06.51 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 18:07.12 | [Ammo] | well actually I don't care much |
| 18:07.15 | trh | Gnarfoz: /script GameTooltip:AddLine("my super duper text"); GameTooltip:Show(); |
| 18:07.18 | Mikk | Standard acedb profile management would be kinda ... nice |
| 18:07.20 | Mikk | imo |
| 18:07.20 | [Ammo] | but I think vhaarr set it as char for a reason |
| 18:07.25 | [Ammo] | profile schmofile |
| 18:07.32 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 18:07.36 | Mikk | Yeah, forcing everyone into shared settings is even worse |
| 18:07.45 | Mikk | So if you just have to hardcode something, char is obviously saner |
| 18:08.12 | [Ammo] | but like i said, I don't really care |
| 18:08.34 | Gnarfoz | trh: trying |
| 18:08.35 | Mikk | So you wouldn't behead me if I stuck in standard ace profile stuff? |
| 18:08.47 | [Ammo] | nop |
| 18:08.53 | [Ammo] | as long as it all keeps in working order |
| 18:09.00 | Gnarfoz | trh: standing still, text appears and then disappears after about a second |
| 18:09.00 | [Ammo] | and my current window placement etc isn't fuxored :) |
| 18:09.16 | Gnarfoz | (seems faster, likely it's as fast as how often cowtip refreshes the tooltip) |
| 18:09.23 | Mikk | Backwards compat = win, as usual |
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| 18:10.03 | trh | Gnarfoz: in my opinion it shouldn't, as that's the standard way to add sth to the gametooltip |
| 18:10.16 | trh | Gnarfoz: you could also hook setXXX functions but that kinda sucks |
| 18:11.04 | Gnarfoz | best to ask ckk when he's around later |
| 18:11.06 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ckknight |
| 18:11.54 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 41m 1s ago, saying: 'that doesn't do the same for me'. |
| 18:11.54 | Mikk | ckk should be waking up around nowish / soonish |
| 18:11.54 | trh | Gnarfoz: guess so.. with tinytip it works flawlessly btw :) |
| 18:11.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah I know |
| 18:11.54 | Fin | oh my god these things are so fast |
| 18:11.54 | Gnarfoz | I'm just trying to see if cowtip can fit my needs |
| 18:11.54 | Fin | I am like a hobo with strapped to a rocket jet |
| 18:11.54 | Gnarfoz | because it has working (and thus, awesome) anchoring to the cursor |
| 18:12.34 | trh | Gnarfoz: uh.. works with tinytip too? |
| 18:12.48 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 18:12.49 | Gnarfoz | doesn't |
| 18:12.56 | trh | Gnarfoz: sure it does :) |
| 18:12.58 | Gnarfoz | the only part that works correct |
| 18:13.02 | Gnarfoz | is just setting it to cursor |
| 18:13.20 | Gnarfoz | which of course means that the tooltip will be blocking sight of whatever it is you are currently hovering over |
| 18:13.23 | Tupsi3472 | classtimer is still not showing battle shout again :-( |
| 18:13.32 | Gnarfoz | if you configure offsets, say, to the lower right |
| 18:13.44 | Gnarfoz | then it will position the tooltip differently depending on the size of the tooltip |
| 18:14.33 | Gnarfoz | thus, for example, player tooltips with tattle data will be somewhere to the left and part over the cursor (of course still behind the actual cursor graphic, but in front of the 3d model of the unit) |
| 18:15.16 | Gnarfoz | basically the only thing that keeps bugging me about tinytip^^ besides that, it's of course very nice :D |
| 18:15.39 | trh | Gnarfoz: uh.. if i set a offset and set the frame anchoring correct it works |
| 18:16.07 | Gnarfoz | unless there's been new developements to the anchoring, I don't see how it would |
| 18:17.13 | trh | Gnarfoz: no clue... but i use pretty small tooltips |
| 18:17.21 | trh | Gnarfoz: so i might just not see the big effect |
| 18:18.00 | Gnarfoz | perhaps =) |
| 18:18.41 | Funkeh` | awesome |
| 18:18.48 | Funkeh` | omen reset threat fucked to bullshit again |
| 18:18.53 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.41 | FtH|Daemona | which revision? |
| 18:19.46 | Funkeh` | latest |
| 18:20.03 | Silverstorm | good thing we don't have raid planned today :p |
| 18:20.24 | Funkeh` | its been broken and fixed 3 times now |
| 18:20.30 | Funkeh` | how can someone keep breaking it |
| 18:20.31 | Funkeh` | god |
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| 18:20.52 | Silverstorm | if it breaks in different places, I could understand...if it's the same, who knows? |
| 18:22.04 | Silverstorm | anyway, got a BigWigs question....mine does not load bosses when I click or mouseover them. I tried with only BW enabled, still no luck, any ideas? |
| 18:22.35 | Mikk | boss mods disabled? |
| 18:22.38 | Daemona | best guess: remove BW + saved variables |
| 18:22.39 | Mikk | wipe settings and try again? |
| 18:22.43 | Daemona | install via WAU |
| 18:22.47 | Daemona | and see if it works |
| 18:22.52 | Silverstorm | I've done all that :( |
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| 18:23.16 | Silverstorm | I set BigWigs and BigWigs_Karazhan to load...nothing |
| 18:23.39 | Silverstorm | BW will activate when I zone in, but the boss module isn't activating |
| 18:24.10 | Silverstorm | I do the WAU with libraries embedded |
| 18:24.29 | Mikk | have you tried wiping your BigWigs WTF files too? With wow exitted while you're doing it? |
| 18:25.07 | Silverstorm | I've wiped the BW WTF for my character and the global one with WoW not running |
| 18:25.18 | Mikk | eek |
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| 18:25.39 | Silverstorm | I will try again right now, since I'm not really interested in getting my dailies done :P |
| 18:26.15 | Funkeh` | err |
| 18:26.21 | Funkeh` | you needs bigwigs_plugins ya know |
| 18:26.30 | Morghus | [Ammo]: Any particular reason for some pretty huge differences between the results a friend of mine gets from SWStats, and what I'm getting from Violation? |
| 18:26.42 | Silverstorm | Hmmm, no I didn't know that. I will try with it enabled |
| 18:26.53 | kergoth | Morghus, you using Violation_CombatLogRange or similar? |
| 18:27.25 | Morghus | Not right now. I used to, but seeing as it syncs I didn't see the point of it |
| 18:27.38 | Funkeh` | Silverstorm: and bigwigs_extras for most things |
| 18:27.47 | Morghus | That was @ kergoth |
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| 18:28.46 | kergoth | hm |
| 18:29.48 | Morghus | The log from SWStats showed a rogue at the top, and three AoE's and a warrior above me, while violation showed me on Third, below an AoE and the rogue |
| 18:29.59 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 18:30.07 | Silverstorm | Funkeh`, thanks! I will try right now with Doomwalker or someone easy to get to |
| 18:30.17 | Gnarfoz | seems dogtag or cowtip has trouble with pets |
| 18:30.34 | Morghus | kergoth: Over 50% of the raid is running SWStats |
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| 18:31.42 | Gnarfoz | yay, let's bombard him with questions and bug reports! |
| 18:31.55 | Gnarfoz | err I meant, morning ckknight ^^ |
| 18:31.55 | trh | is acecomm still broken? =) |
| 18:32.04 | ckknight | how is it broken? |
| 18:32.10 | Cryect | wasn't broken last night? |
| 18:32.31 | ckknight | someone first has to tell me how it's broken |
| 18:32.38 | ckknight | cause it seemed to work for me last night |
| 18:32.46 | BankZ | How can I reset WUA postion? its off the screen and only way I can see it is if I maximize it |
| 18:33.40 | Lyfe | you should be able to hit "alt+spacebar" "m" and then an arrow key, and then move your mouse to get it under your mouse cursor. |
| 18:33.49 | trh | ckknight: AceComm-41515 spewing 262: bad argument #2 to 'string_char' (invalid value) errors |
| 18:34.34 | trh | ckknight: heard it today twice from different people =) |
| 18:36.45 | Silverstorm | Funkeh`, it seems to be working. One more question: should BigWigs auto activate for bosses like Doomwalker? After I clicked it, then targetted DW it worked fine. |
| 18:37.04 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 18:37.35 | Funkeh` | and you get nifty things like range scanner if you have bigwigs extras |
| 18:37.36 | Silverstorm | even it BW is disabled when I target? |
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| 18:39.21 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: regarding CowTip (nice work on the anchoring btw!): getting these two errors when hovering over people (and NPCs, it seems): http://ace.pastey.net/65525 ; also, it seems [Level:DifficultyColor] (or at all) doesn't work, no coloring. |
| 18:39.46 | Funkeh` | Silverstorm: bw enabled when you join raid and are in a zone with boss mods |
| 18:39.50 | Funkeh` | enables* |
| 18:40.01 | Funkeh` | so it will not enable when you are solo because there is no point |
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| 18:40.06 | Funkeh` | but you can do it manually |
| 18:40.07 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: ping |
| 18:40.19 | Stylpe | Quick question: Is there a limit to how long a string can be? |
| 18:40.28 | Silverstorm | OK, that's what I got from scanning through the code, just wanted to check. It's working as intended then, thanks! |
| 18:40.49 | trh | ckknight: oh.. and it seems that cowtip redraws it's tooltip with it's original size shortly after, even after GameTooltip:AddLine("xxx"); GameTooltip:Show(); was called |
| 18:42.35 | Stylpe | To be more specific: Can I put a 120-page document into a string? |
| 18:43.09 | Bam__ | Stylpe: yes |
| 18:43.25 | Stylpe | sweet |
| 18:43.37 | Cryect | Gnancy: pong |
| 18:44.07 | Bam__ | max size is probably 4Gigs on a 32-bit implementation :) |
| 18:44.11 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: any possibility of making Recount not always show on login/reload but rather remembering it's state? :) |
| 18:44.33 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: heh I forgotten it shows automatically if was hiddne before |
| 18:44.51 | Cryect | hmm no wonder why I didn't load on a reloadui damn server is down |
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| 18:45.13 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 18:45.18 | Cryect | apparently doesn't know what to do if server dc's in the middle of a reload |
| 18:45.31 | Bam__ | it just stalls? |
| 18:45.36 | Silverstorm | Cyrect, I'll second the "remember state" feature request |
| 18:46.14 | Cryect | yeah it stalled at some point on the loadbar like it froze up (and my fixing a reference for a tooltip I'm pretty sure wasn't at fault :-p) |
| 18:46.55 | Bam__ | bad bad Blizzard for not considering that situation :D |
| 18:48.20 | Cryect | btw anyone know how to add blank lines into the tooltip for spacing purposes? |
| 18:49.29 | Bam__ | tried with a string containing a space only? |
| 18:49.34 | ckknight | trh: any specific situation? |
| 18:50.06 | Cryect | Bam__: nope haven't tried that was just using empty strings |
| 18:50.15 | trh | ckknight: acecomm? i think it sends a list |
| 18:50.20 | trh | ckknight: or table |
| 18:50.28 | ckknight | hrm, okay |
| 18:50.32 | Bam__ | yea I think empty strings have special treatment.. hides the text fields |
| 18:50.46 | trh | ckknight: either via ZONE or GLOBAL or WHISPER |
| 18:52.48 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r41561 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Dalliah.lua Skyriss.lua): LittleWigs: Tweak some zhTW translation. |
| 18:52.51 | Saroz | ckknight, combattext is hidden on pb |
| 18:53.02 | Saroz | aka, bugged |
| 18:53.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41562 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - possible bugfix |
| 18:53.05 | ckknight | trh: committing bugfix |
| 18:53.10 | ckknight | yay, CIA's back! |
| 18:53.13 | Saroz | wut! |
| 18:53.27 | DesertDwarf | What's CIA? |
| 18:53.53 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 18:54.00 | Funkeh` | cia is the hunter |
| 18:54.02 | Bam__ | ~cia |
| 18:54.43 | purl | somebody said cia was a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.vc/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) |
| 18:54.43 | Mikk | It's something we kick when we feel like it |
| 18:54.43 | Funkeh` | you are the prey |
| 18:54.43 | Mikk | Very rewarding |
| 18:54.43 | Bam__ | purl? |
| 18:55.13 | Mikk | ~~ |
| 18:55.14 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 18:55.16 | DesertDwarf | Hehe |
| 18:55.20 | Bam__ | ~~~ |
| 18:55.21 | purl | I HATE YOU, bam__!!! |
| 18:55.25 | Bam__ | aww |
| 18:55.47 | Gnarfoz | up to how many ~'s is configured? |
| 18:55.55 | Mikk | ~~~~ |
| 18:55.57 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT mikk!!! |
| 18:56.02 | Mikk | ~~~~~ |
| 18:56.03 | purl | grrrr |
| 18:56.09 | Mikk | ~~~~~~ |
| 18:56.09 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots mikk in the head three times. |
| 18:56.10 | hyperChipmunk | ten, i think |
| 18:56.10 | Gnarfoz | don't try it out, just answer if you know :D |
| 18:56.19 | Mikk | ~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 18:56.31 | hyperChipmunk | it's pretty funny to go through the progression |
| 18:56.37 | hyperChipmunk | recommend you do it in /msgs though =p |
| 18:56.42 | Gnarfoz | indeed :D |
| 18:56.42 | Mikk | good point :P |
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| 18:57.56 | Mikk | #9 = "I'm ignoring you now" |
| 18:59.19 | Dotted | ~~~~~~~ |
| 18:59.20 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat dotted. |
| 19:00.21 | Cryect | Bam__: thanks that worked! |
| 19:00.33 | Bam__ | np :) |
| 19:03.44 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r87 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: OnUpdate script for mouse (cursor) anchoring offsets return, meaning you can supply offsets to cursor anchoring. Also minor optimizations. (google svn) |
| 19:05.54 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: on the wish list, the "display Auctioneer data" request is under Denied/Impossible, yet CowTip displays Auctioneer data perfectly fine - what's up with that? :D |
| 19:06.40 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: There you go -- CowTip used TinyTip's code anyway ;) |
| 19:07.42 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: it did? if that's new code, then I'll have to update from google svn, but AFAIK tinytip doesn't have options to anchor a specific side of the tooltip to the cursor |
| 19:08.04 | Gnarfoz | (you know better of course, you code the damn thing ^^ - am I out of date on that info?^^) |
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| 19:09.03 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: OK |
| 19:09.08 | dodgizzla | Hm, anyone got an idea, why SWStats and Violation differ so much? We got 2 BM Hunters and I got merge pets in Violation on, but I got 50-100 k damage less tracked from them then they got in SWS :\ |
| 19:09.32 | Gnarfoz | now I'm confused :D |
| 19:09.42 | Nickenyfiken | Violation include damage done to other players |
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| 19:09.48 | Nickenyfiken | Thats one factor i guess |
| 19:10.07 | nevcairiel | does anyone know a simple addon that can announce to raidchat which battle rezz, soulstone, etc, are ready ? on click that is. |
| 19:10.15 | nevcairiel | (in raid) |
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| 19:12.34 | dodgizzla | Yeah I don't get it.. the hunters have way more damage in SWS |
| 19:12.36 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41563 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 19:12.36 | CIA-22 | Recount - Adds pet merging (for now automerged, some issues with shadow fiends and water elementals only being attributed to the first owner) |
| 19:12.36 | CIA-22 | -Adds health to the death log |
| 19:12.36 | CIA-22 | -Fixes some bugs with tracking |
| 19:12.42 | dodgizzla | But I do have merge pets enabled in Violation |
| 19:13.04 | dodgizzla | So the only thing I can think of would be, that the pets are not recognized correctly and therefore don't get added to the damage the hunters did |
| 19:13.34 | dodgizzla | (But this applies also to e.g. healing - in SWS people healed more than in Violation; both effective without overhealing) |
| 19:14.25 | Punkie` | dodgizzla: pet merge is not working properly |
| 19:14.27 | Punkie` | in violation |
| 19:14.29 | Morghus | dodgizzla: I am getting huge discrepancies between SWStats and Violation too |
| 19:14.43 | Morghus | and mine aren't pet-related :P |
| 19:14.46 | Punkie` | it works on the person with the pet |
| 19:14.52 | Morghus | *aren't even |
| 19:14.58 | Punkie` | but they aren't broadcasted properly |
| 19:15.28 | Keias | Morghus, could it be because there's so many running SW_Stats, that they pick up data from a further distance than a combat log allows? |
| 19:15.39 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: There you go. |
| 19:15.46 | Gnarfoz | where? |
| 19:15.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:15.52 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, CIA^^ |
| 19:15.57 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r88 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: FCursorAnchor and MCursorAnchor change which side is anchored when using cursor anchoring. |
| 19:16.02 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:16.12 | Morghus | Keias: I'm not sure what you mean. The more info the better, no? |
| 19:16.19 | Gnarfoz | I'll try that, thanks |
| 19:16.40 | Keias | Well AFAIK, most Damage meters grab their info from combat log |
| 19:16.45 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: not used to google code, I guess not anyone can generally commit to all projects? |
| 19:16.50 | Keias | So if people are out of range, then it's not registering to you |
| 19:16.59 | Keias | But it will register to someone by them |
| 19:17.06 | Keias | Which maybe syncs with the SW_Stats in the raid? |
| 19:17.12 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Yeah, I have to add authors manually. That's the point. |
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| 19:17.56 | dodgizzla | I see |
| 19:18.06 | dodgizzla | Punkie`: Yeah as I said, it also applies to e.g. healing :\ |
| 19:18.07 | Gnarfoz | ah ok |
| 19:18.20 | Gnarfoz | can .toc files be UTF8 with BOM? |
| 19:18.29 | sag_ich_nicht | BOM? |
| 19:18.48 | dodgizzla | It's just our BM hunters go like "yeah I did waaaaaaaaay more damage than you" when they did like 20k more, but they have a frikkin pet :P |
| 19:19.00 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz: no |
| 19:19.00 | dodgizzla | Well, it's not even 20k more, but something like 10k less :P |
| 19:19.04 | Funkeh` | not true utf |
| 19:19.10 | dodgizzla | Hunter outdamaging a hunter.. prffft whatever |
| 19:19.23 | dodgizzla | Man, I'm confused. I meant Hunter outdamaging a shadowpriest |
| 19:19.28 | Gnarfoz | how do .tocs with e.g. zhTW or koKR notes work? |
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| 19:19.50 | Gnarfoz | if they can't be made what wow's Lua deems real UTF8? do they have to use escape codes? |
| 19:19.55 | Andune | dodgizzla: nothing against you, but I've seen some good hunters and some sucky shadow priests. I've definitely seen that situation before. |
| 19:20.07 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: I save my TOCs in UTF-8, seems to load fine. |
| 19:20.21 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: that's the point, you don't :D at least they haven't got a BOM |
| 19:20.56 | dodgizzla | Andune: Yeah it cooould happen. Like once every 1000 raids :> |
| 19:21.11 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41564 10BulkMail2/TODO: |
| 19:21.11 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 19:21.11 | CIA-22 | - removing obselete README and TODO (last modified in revision 2120!) files |
| 19:21.19 | Morghus | Keias: More than 50% of the raid is running SWStats, and the reason I'm confused it because Violation has the option to leech numbers off of SWStats and Damagemeters |
| 19:21.24 | Gnarfoz | lol rev 2120 |
| 19:21.26 | Andune | but I've also seen a big discrepancy between Violation, SW stats, assessment, etc |
| 19:21.29 | Keias | oh ok |
| 19:21.31 | dodgizzla | Actually it surprises me, that I do so well in my raid :\ Kinda sad, our other DPS must be sleeping |
| 19:21.40 | Andune | I sometimes run thema ll just for the humor value of it. |
| 19:21.41 | Morghus | Keias: So the fact that there are such tremendous differences is completely dumbfounding |
| 19:22.02 | Keias | Yeah, it doesn't make sense now. I wasn't aware it accepted data from SWStats now |
| 19:22.03 | Gnarfoz | anyway, if they work, then whatever, mind if I send you a Notes-deDE line for TinyTip's .toc, Thrae? |
| 19:22.07 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41565 10BulkMail2/README: |
| 19:22.08 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 19:22.08 | CIA-22 | - oops, remove them both |
| 19:22.21 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Well no koreans or chinese have complained about my TOC files, and they both exist |
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| 19:22.25 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r41566 10Proximo/ (5 files): |
| 19:22.25 | CIA-22 | Proximo: |
| 19:22.25 | CIA-22 | Lots of code clean up/bug fixes; should be behaving much better now. |
| 19:22.25 | CIA-22 | Added option to hide Header. |
| 19:22.25 | CIA-22 | Added option to right click to set focus. |
| 19:22.35 | Andune | but in general, I trust SW stats the most because a) most likely to have other members rnning it there, therefor accurate sync data and b) longest standing code base of them all, most likely to have been heavily gone over and be accurate |
| 19:22.55 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: You can /msg me with it, my terminal supports UTF-8 |
| 19:23.01 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: will do |
| 19:23.10 | Fridgid | is there a blacklist for OmniCC |
| 19:23.23 | Thrae | Fridgid: No, not to my knowledge. |
| 19:23.30 | Fridgid | argh |
| 19:23.38 | Morghus | Andune: I have to agree. SWStats is by far the most accurate. My problem is that Violation is nicer to my fps, and as such I'm keen on seeing it work as well as it :) |
| 19:23.39 | Fisker- | Why was the iPhone instructional video only 25 minutes? |
| 19:23.43 | sbu | mhh |
| 19:23.51 | Fisker- | It would've been longer but the battery went dead |
| 19:23.52 | Fisker- | HAHAHA |
| 19:23.55 | sbu | proximo shows _enemy_ frames, right? |
| 19:23.59 | Mudkipz | Fisker-, haha |
| 19:24.04 | Fridgid | well then, are there any mobs like OmniCC with a blacklist? |
| 19:24.08 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: actually, it's not even on - look at the clock, it shows 9:42 the whole time :P |
| 19:24.11 | Fridgid | mods* |
| 19:24.31 | sbu | Morghus: violation w/ syncing has exactly the same numbers as swstats |
| 19:24.36 | sbu | tested on gruul + magtheridon |
| 19:24.37 | Andune | morghus: yeah I'd like to see them all agree at some point so we can pick and choose one and know it will be accurate, not left wondering why our numbers don't match up with anyone else's. |
| 19:24.44 | sbu | the only problem is reset-timing |
| 19:24.53 | Fisker- | heh Gnarfoz :P |
| 19:24.55 | Fisker- | but still |
| 19:24.58 | sbu | swstat reset doesnt trigger violation reset |
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| 19:25.08 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Thanks |
| 19:25.16 | sag_ich_nicht | the problem is |
| 19:25.17 | Fisker- | I thought the demo was a real life demo, not in anyway pre-recorded or with aftereffects added! |
| 19:25.23 | sag_ich_nicht | that they all don't sync with each other |
| 19:25.30 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you did? so did I! :D |
| 19:25.32 | sag_ich_nicht | which should be friggin changed |
| 19:25.33 | Fisker- | I wonder what hell it must've been for the guy then, since he has to do it over a blank screen i guess |
| 19:25.35 | Andune | sbu: interesting about violation siphoning numbers of SWS. I will have to try that. |
| 19:25.37 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r89 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.toc: TinyTip: Added German Notes line. Thanks to Gnarfoz. |
| 19:25.39 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: my pleasure :) |
| 19:25.44 | Mudkipz | I don't even listen to swstats on our raids |
| 19:25.54 | Mudkipz | there are only a couple of people running it compared to DM |
| 19:25.55 | Morghus | sbu: We did sync resets once, and there were discrepancies. |
| 19:26.20 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: yeah that certainly would have been weird to do. guess we'll see when it comes out on friday - or rather, someone will see, as it's U.S. only |
| 19:26.32 | Morghus | So what confuses many of us is what they're picking up that the other one's not picking up :P |
| 19:27.11 | dodgizzla | sbu: Not over here.. I had huge differences in SWS and Vio |
| 19:27.22 | Fisker- | well Gnarfoz it's gonna be fail in europe anyways |
| 19:27.31 | Fisker- | Doesn't even have GPS does it? |
| 19:27.42 | Xuerian | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2278.msg113979#msg113979 |
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| 19:28.12 | Fisker- | Which is pretty retarded as this seem to become the standard |
| 19:28.18 | Gnarfoz | dunno, but I can certainly imagine it failing - most of our providers don't seem to have several features of my _current_ mobile phone, and that one is 2 years old :D |
| 19:29.50 | Fisker- | Fullscreen touchscreen might be winrar though :P |
| 19:30.12 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 19:30.13 | Fisker- | The usual reason as to why touchscreens malfunction is because dust get in between the plastic casing and underneath the touchscreen |
| 19:30.38 | Fisker- | The way they have designed it could probably remove that problem |
| 19:31.36 | Fiddle | I was just reading that IGE now owns wowhead, thrott, and alakazam (sp) holy hell |
| 19:31.47 | Fisker- | Then you were doing it wrong |
| 19:31.49 | trh | they dont |
| 19:31.52 | Peoii | You read wrong |
| 19:31.52 | trh | read wowhead.com |
| 19:31.54 | Fisker- | Affinity Media bought Wowhead |
| 19:31.59 | Fisker- | Affinity Media USED to own IGE |
| 19:32.07 | Fisker- | but Affinity Media SOLD IGE to the former owners |
| 19:32.20 | sbu | dodgizzla: hm - did you sync reset? :o |
| 19:32.23 | FrostByghte | http://www.techsoapbox.com/hot-off-the-presses-wowhead-sold-for-over-1-million/ |
| 19:32.39 | hyperChipmunk | Fin: <3 |
| 19:32.40 | FrostByghte | just according to that guy, it's all a bunch of pfft |
| 19:32.55 | Fisker- | sec FrostByghte |
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| 19:33.17 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Let me know if any of that code doesn't work. |
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| 19:33.33 | dodgizzla | sbu: syncwhat? :D |
| 19:33.44 | dodgizzla | sbu: the SWS-peeps did reset, as did I with Vio |
| 19:33.46 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: the positioning stuff? sure, I'll be trying it out in a minute =) |
| 19:33.51 | sbu | hmhm |
| 19:33.53 | dodgizzla | I mean the numbers weren't like 200k off |
| 19:33.56 | FrostByghte | wonder if there is any room for another wow DB? |
| 19:33.56 | Fisker- | FrostByghte credible source: http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/your-mother.html |
| 19:34.02 | FrostByghte | danke |
| 19:34.02 | Fisker- | it obviously says "YOUR MOTHER" |
| 19:34.05 | Fisker- | so it gotta be true |
| 19:34.06 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:34.12 | FrostByghte | ah |
| 19:34.12 | dodgizzla | but pets (ok, that's broken) and other stuff was off, by around 10k or so |
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| 19:34.17 | FrostByghte | well that wasn't helpful :) |
| 19:34.31 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Wowhead |
| 19:34.34 | Fisker- | read in the bottom about the sale |
| 19:34.50 | Fisker- | In any case it's not like it ever mattered to me |
| 19:35.07 | Fisker- | The only thing that mattered to me was Blizzards doublestandards on the whole subject |
| 19:35.15 | Fisker- | Well or at least the european division of Blizzard |
| 19:35.43 | sbu | dodgizzla: uhm - violation merges pets? |
| 19:35.48 | Fisker- | For all i care i'm costing them money to use their site, and ads can fuck off |
| 19:35.52 | Andune | hmm.. if Omen can broadcast to KTM now, and I have ThreatToKTM doing the same thing, are they double-broadcasting the same numbers? lol |
| 19:36.11 | Fisker- | btw Fin :< |
| 19:36.13 | Fisker- | you suck |
| 19:36.56 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r41567 10ShammySpy/ (Frames.lua Init.lua Localization.lua ShammySpy.lua): |
| 19:36.56 | CIA-22 | ShammySpy: |
| 19:36.56 | CIA-22 | - Added custom Alpha setting for unused frames |
| 19:37.06 | Fisker- | btw anyone know what the story about Cairenn was on WoWi? |
| 19:37.14 | Fisker- | and not being able to attend Blizzcon |
| 19:38.10 | Cairenn | thought it was pretty well self-explanatory - I couldn't afford to go, bunch of people wanted me to go, they finally brow-beat me into letting them raise money so I could |
| 19:38.37 | Fisker- | ah well just saw that one news about you could go but couldn't find any other reference to it |
| 19:38.50 | Cairenn | and I was embarrassed as all hell, and completely blown away by the response |
| 19:38.55 | dodgizzla | sbu: Obviously that's broken :D |
| 19:39.06 | Morghus | Cairenn: <3 |
| 19:39.41 | Cairenn | *blush* |
| 19:39.45 | Cryect | Blizzard double standards? what was blizzard's standards on wowhead? |
| 19:39.51 | Fisker- | not on wowhead |
| 19:39.55 | Punkie` | ~emulate ballmer |
| 19:40.01 | Fisker- | But they didn't want sites related to gold selling |
| 19:40.16 | Punkie` | Fisker did you break ballmer? |
| 19:40.24 | Fisker- | if your site had a gold ad, it would probably be locked if reported |
| 19:40.33 | Fisker- | Even if it was a link with relevant information |
| 19:41.07 | Cryect | Heh, they tried to recruit the guy from thottbot at one time you know but he didn't want to sell out by going with blizzard or something :-p |
| 19:41.09 | Fisker- | There was some site that had some very valid raid information, but it was closed down by Blizzard cause it contained gold ads |
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| 19:41.36 | Fisker- | But then again they supported sites like Allakhazam, Thottbot, and WoWInterface which essentially was co-owned along with IGE |
| 19:41.40 | Morghus | Cairenn: Enjoy the event, you've earned it ;D |
| 19:41.43 | Fisker- | Atleast until a month ago or whatever |
| 19:41.54 | Cairenn | Fisker-: not |
| 19:42.02 | Cairenn | Morghus: thanks |
| 19:42.10 | Cryect | Pfft wouldn't say WoWhead considers Blizzard to support them based on some stuff I've heard Wowhead has said to blizzard :-p |
| 19:42.32 | Fisker- | Cairenn i'm not trying to make any "Oh ban these sites comment" but you were part of the Zam and ogaming which as far as i remember was owned by affinity |
| 19:42.36 | Fisker- | and affinity owned IGE |
| 19:42.46 | Fisker- | that it has nothing to do with it all doesn't surprise me |
| 19:43.11 | Cairenn | and there was complete separation between the two sides of the house, trust me |
| 19:43.28 | Cairenn | you guys know me, you think I'd have ANYTHING to do with IGE? ewwww |
| 19:43.42 | Fisker- | I'm just saying i'm a bit annoyed over Blizzard locking and deleting posts with relevant information because it happened to have a gold-selling ad which in turn technically costs them money, but sites that potentially could gain revenue was allowed np |
| 19:43.47 | Industrial | IGE IGE IGE |
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| 19:43.57 | Fisker- | Of course, this is 100% a blizzard rant :P |
| 19:44.00 | Cairenn | ah |
| 19:44.06 | Industrial | Cairenn: ^^ |
| 19:44.10 | Cairenn | I missed the beginning of the conversation |
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| 19:44.45 | Fisker- | When it all comes to it the problem isn't IGE, the problem is the customers |
| 19:44.58 | Fisker- | IGE wouldn't have a basis for a market if noone wanted to buy from them |
| 19:45.17 | Fisker- | Without demand they wouldn't earn anything, and therefor have a harder time putting in a upply |
| 19:45.24 | Fisker- | s/upply/supply/ |
| 19:46.50 | FrostByghte | I don't really get the point of buying gold....I mean why pay to play a game, and then...well basically not play the game? :) |
| 19:46.57 | FrostByghte | plus gold is fairly easy to make anyway |
| 19:46.57 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 19:47.03 | Kalman| | FrostByghte: Because grinding gold out isn't fun. |
| 19:47.16 | Gnarfoz | pay again to don't have to pay to play the 'boring' parts of the game, i.e. getting gold |
| 19:47.29 | FrostByghte | hell just grab auctioneer...works great |
| 19:47.40 | Gnarfoz | never made any real money on the AH, dunno why |
| 19:47.48 | Fisker- | I would say it was fairly hard in the beginning to make money |
| 19:47.54 | Kalman| | Not really, if there's more than a few people doing AH manipulation, it isn't profitable. |
| 19:47.54 | Gnarfoz | might be my dead-ish realm |
| 19:47.58 | Fisker- | But daily quests = win |
| 19:48.00 | Gnarfoz | actually, questing after 70 is a fairly insane gold source |
| 19:48.13 | Fisker- | up to ~100g a day doing almost nothing |
| 19:48.15 | Kalman| | Not if you zero-rested your way to 70. |
| 19:48.16 | Fisker- | Consistantly |
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| 19:48.21 | KarlThePagan | I can only recommend the daily quests |
| 19:48.27 | FrostByghte | once you have about 10g it's not very difficult to get gold from the AH, and ya when you get close to 70 it's a walk in the park |
| 19:48.32 | Gnarfoz | seeing that I hit 70 in Nagrand, I have plenty of options |
| 19:48.47 | Gnarfoz | and I've got another two characters (one 70, one 61) I could quest/level to make money :D |
| 19:48.47 | Fisker- | I earned around 3500g on questing |
| 19:48.49 | Fisker- | from 1-70 |
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| 19:49.18 | Gnarfoz | dunno, didn't make _that_ much I guess, but I also buy stuff, enchant stuff, push tradeskills, and do instances on the way |
| 19:49.30 | KarlThePagan | there are 3 noncombat daily quests, and 2 more that are 1 credit per kill (no random drop crap), only the rescue is annoying and I would consider skipping if I was short on time |
| 19:49.48 | Dustwhisper | could someone suggest some timermods that'll time anything from sheep to fire vulnerability to banish to dots |
| 19:50.02 | Gnarfoz | necb? |
| 19:50.07 | KarlThePagan | QUARTZ |
| 19:51.17 | KarlThePagan | seriously Quartz for general access to the game's built-in timer data... maybe Aloft if you want sheep timers over the mob's head (I find it very useful) |
| 19:51.22 | Dustwhisper | quartz show how long left on banish/sheep when you dont have the sheeped/banished targeted? |
| 19:51.38 | KarlThePagan | nope |
| 19:51.46 | Dustwhisper | that's what i thought |
| 19:52.03 | KarlThePagan | aloft will, but it's dependant on nameplate range |
| 19:52.16 | KarlThePagan | not sure of a good one for the general case |
| 19:52.21 | Kalman| | NECB. |
| 19:52.23 | Cryect | it will if you have it focused though |
| 19:52.37 | dodgizzla | If Quartz would show the bars even though I change my target... that would be le grande <3 |
| 19:52.39 | KarlThePagan | ah yea... Quartz shows forcus timers |
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| 19:52.55 | Fridgid | is there a way to make screenshots still do png? |
| 19:53.01 | Mikk | yes |
| 19:53.07 | Fridgid | cuz these jpegs blow |
| 19:53.12 | Fridgid | how? |
| 19:53.16 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Screenshot |
| 19:53.21 | Fridgid | ty |
| 19:53.26 | Mikk | prolly better to just up the jpg quality |
| 19:53.34 | Fisker- | OMG :o |
| 19:53.37 | Fisker- | you stoelz my info |
| 19:54.09 | Mikk | with creidts |
| 19:54.21 | mikma | Mikk: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1046/quality10lf8.jpg <- check it out |
| 19:54.23 | Fisker- | I stoelz mine from blizzard though :D |
| 19:54.39 | Mikk | mikma: bandwidth |
| 19:54.42 | Cryect | good frog |
| 19:54.58 | mikma | Mikk: bingo |
| 19:55.04 | Fisker- | There was a patch where mac got something similar |
| 19:55.14 | hyperChipmunk | yea, 1.12 |
| 19:55.16 | hyperChipmunk | or so |
| 19:55.16 | Cryect | mac got PNG's like in 1.12 |
| 19:55.18 | hyperChipmunk | they got png |
| 19:55.44 | AnduinLothar | macs have always used jpgs and had the option to switch to tga |
| 19:55.54 | Antiarc | Anyone know if there's a mod out there that reports who breaks crowd control? |
| 19:56.08 | AnduinLothar | probably because the wow artists requested it and all use macs |
| 19:56.15 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 19:56.19 | Fisker- | stupid macs! |
| 19:56.23 | hyperChipmunk | they got PNG support |
| 19:56.29 | AnduinLothar | right png was recent |
| 19:56.35 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:56.37 | hyperChipmunk | which is the only one that matters =P |
| 19:56.38 | Gnarfoz | no-one really knows why it got added when it got added, for PC |
| 19:56.42 | AnduinLothar | because it suports lossy + alpha layers |
| 19:56.48 | Fisker- | but in any case it said it could be changed by using those 2 cvars |
| 19:57.18 | hyperChipmunk | i still don't understand why PCs can't have PNG |
| 19:57.26 | Fisker- | license!11 |
| 19:57.27 | Fisker- | :P |
| 19:57.34 | nevcairiel | isnt PNG a open format ? :P |
| 19:57.38 | hyperChipmunk | libpng license is pretty liberal |
| 19:57.38 | Fisker- | shh! |
| 19:57.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:57.50 | Fisker- | i wasn't making a joke :( |
| 19:57.53 | nevcairiel | i know that PCs couldnt get jpg due to license |
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| 19:58.03 | nevcairiel | until it expired sometime last year |
| 19:58.06 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 19:58.11 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make sense |
| 19:58.22 | hyperChipmunk | well, yay, now everyone can have crappy jpegs |
| 19:58.36 | Gnarfoz | first, why would macs have it then, and also, the intel jpeg library has been sitting in WoW's main dir since release |
| 19:59.00 | Mikk | er? jpeg is freely usable, surely |
| 19:59.07 | hyperChipmunk | screenshots should go to PNG |
| 19:59.07 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: I've wondered about that |
| 19:59.13 | Cryect | the intel jpeg library is free |
| 19:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | PNG should be readable as textures |
| 19:59.19 | nevcairiel | there was a patent on the jpeg algorithm |
| 19:59.22 | Mikk | hell, even the jpeg group jpeglib was freely usable with attribution |
| 19:59.26 | Mikk | oh sigh |
| 19:59.31 | Cryect | nevcairiel: there is a patent on one of the jpeg algoirthms |
| 19:59.33 | Mikk | US ftbloodysucks |
| 19:59.36 | Cryect | there is 2 different one |
| 19:59.37 | Cryect | s |
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| 19:59.46 | Cryect | no one uses the patented compression method |
| 19:59.53 | nevcairiel | well anyway, that was the reason windows didnt get jpeg |
| 19:59.58 | Gnarfoz | source...? :p |
| 19:59.59 | nevcairiel | the patent was lifted last year iirc |
| 20:00.06 | nevcairiel | so blizz implemented it now |
| 20:00.18 | Fisker- | what the shit? |
| 20:00.21 | Cryect | they didn't have to implement that patented one I mean unless you are going to read all jpgs |
| 20:00.25 | Gnarfoz | that's a good a guess as any, I think |
| 20:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | still doesn't explain why no png |
| 20:00.32 | Fisker- | seems my addons are running at 6MB less initial memory |
| 20:00.35 | Gnarfoz | and wow doesn't read any jpegs :D |
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| 20:00.40 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:00.46 | Fisker- | almost before i can have memory at a green colour woo |
| 20:01.13 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I'm far from that, running at something about ~50 megs after load :< |
| 20:01.21 | Andune | *shrug* my memory was always red. I got tired of staring at it turned it of on PerFu |
| 20:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 20:01.29 | nevcairiel | http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2002/07/53981 |
| 20:01.30 | Fisker- | my initial was 26MB |
| 20:01.31 | sag_ich_nicht | how do mount macros look in 2.1? |
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| 20:01.31 | Fisker- | :) |
| 20:01.34 | sag_ich_nicht | because i didn't bother so far |
| 20:02.04 | Gnarfoz | Andune: did that long ago, for the same reason, just got the increasing rate there now |
| 20:02.13 | Andune | gnarfoz: yep, me too :) |
| 20:02.34 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 20:02.35 | Gnarfoz | food! |
| 20:02.37 | Gnarfoz | bbl |
| 20:02.51 | Andune | I like a little more information than pple who are struggling to get their mem footprint down to by very last MB possible. I got 2G ram, might as well use it :) |
| 20:03.36 | Thrae | Andune: It's usually more about the rate of increase then the total memory usage. As the rate increases, your FPS can drop. |
| 20:03.38 | AnduinLothar | sag_ich_nicht: |
| 20:03.41 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.41 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.12 | Andune | thrae: yep, that's why I watch the rate of increase. my base footprint is around 90MB. That should be "green" to me, 'cuz that's OK. |
| 20:04.31 | nymbia | how is that even possible? |
| 20:04.33 | Andune | when it creeps up around 110MB, that's when I'd want it to turn orange or red. |
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| 20:05.13 | Andune | Run enough mods that track historical info, like AH prices, QuestHistory, Mob database, Price Tables, etc. it adds up. |
| 20:05.49 | nevcairiel | I only load auctioneer when i am at the ah |
| 20:05.54 | Cryect | if you ever have to ask how is it possible its just means a player is tracking lots of data :-p |
| 20:06.03 | nevcairiel | and pretty quick /rl when i am done with it to get it out of my mem :P |
| 20:06.18 | Andune | I run it all the time. When that rare gem recipe drops on a run, I like to know how much it is worth just by hovering over it :) |
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| 20:07.05 | Andune | yep. your interest lies in keeping your memory footprint as low as possible. Mine lies in having as much information available to me at any given time. |
| 20:07.22 | Andune | Thus I run 2G of RAM and turn a blind eye to memory footprint, so long as it's not increasing at a rate that hurts my FPS. |
| 20:07.52 | nymbia | what's an auctioneer SVs file look like, anyway? |
| 20:08.08 | nymbia | i bet they could do a lot better on the data storage |
| 20:08.12 | Mikk | you wish |
| 20:08.30 | Mikk | they simply track shitloads of data |
| 20:08.40 | Andune | dunno. was running KC for a while, didn't see much better. Plus I like the Auc AH features much better. |
| 20:08.41 | nevcairiel | storage isnt really a issue |
| 20:09.09 | nymbia | there's always room for improvement >.> |
| 20:09.12 | Mikk | Auctioneer should have a standalone mod that just caches prices for a configurable item quality treshold |
| 20:09.17 | nevcairiel | imho its even better to just store the plain data, so that you dont have to unpack/re-calculate on use |
| 20:09.26 | Andune | mikk: yeah that'd be nice. |
| 20:09.27 | nymbia | someone pastey some auctioneer SV data, i'm curious now |
| 20:09.38 | Daemona | second nymbia :) |
| 20:10.02 | nevcairiel | want my 5mb file ? :P |
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| 20:10.18 | nymbia | just a few hundred lines is fine ;) |
| 20:10.19 | Daemona | i got 8mb :/ can pastey handle that? |
| 20:10.22 | durcyn | port rrd to lua, imo |
| 20:10.22 | Andune | tho actually, according to PerformanceFu, Ace2 wins with 17.5MB of my memory footprint. |
| 20:10.39 | Andune | undoubtedly because I run so many Ace2 mods and it's a library shared by them all. :) |
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| 20:11.20 | Fisker- | oh HAI nymbia |
| 20:11.25 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 20:11.27 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 20:11.33 | Andune | possessions weighs in at #2 with 8MB. No way I can live without that. If you haven't used it, you're missing out. (or Sanity, it's pretty similar) |
| 20:11.42 | Andune | and Auctioneer comes in at a lowly #3 spot at 7MB |
| 20:11.54 | Andune | lol |
| 20:12.01 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41568 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua): Recount - Adds special Pet & Mob colors |
| 20:12.05 | Daemona | hahaha |
| 20:12.06 | Ominous | good evening |
| 20:12.23 | Daemona | nymbia, C&P my auctioneer saved var to pastey made me disconnect from wow :) |
| 20:12.38 | nymbia | Daemona: rofl |
| 20:13.36 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/65588 |
| 20:13.42 | Andune | One of my fav Auctioneer features that I missed tremendously when I went KC/fence for a while, is that when you put an item up to get ready to auction, it automatically scans AH for same item and shows you currnet prices |
| 20:13.42 | nevcairiel | i pasteyed something of every block |
| 20:14.12 | Daemona | i wonder if pastey will show that 8mb :D |
| 20:14.17 | nevcairiel | prolly not |
| 20:14.18 | Daemona | still uploading at 4mbit/sec |
| 20:14.40 | Daemona | guess i will lag out now from wow ^^ 1k ms+ |
| 20:15.00 | AnduinLothar | does baggins have a way to show my $? |
| 20:15.01 | nymbia | why do they track more data than they use? |
| 20:15.06 | nymbia | why do they store item names? |
| 20:15.11 | Mikk | AnduinLothar: No. Wishlisted :P |
| 20:15.41 | nevcairiel | dunno, i only use it while at the AH, so i dont really care :) |
| 20:15.55 | AnduinLothar | i can prolly find a fubar thing to do it, but i dont rly want it always shown |
| 20:15.57 | Andune | anduinlother: hmm. yeah that would be nice. I never noticed 'cuz I switched to baggins sometime after I added FuBAR/MoneyFu and I just got used to lookin at my FuBar |
| 20:16.18 | Daemona | hmmm still uploading ^^ |
| 20:16.22 | Andune | FuBar one is esp. nice 'cuz it tracks money across all your alts and shows you the total, also. So you know which alts you can pilfer for money :) |
| 20:16.25 | nevcairiel | pastey wont handle that |
| 20:16.28 | Daemona | this can become interesting |
| 20:16.56 | nymbia | well, their method is certainly slower than just chopping it down to what you use before storing it. no reason for a new entry for every single auction.. |
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| 20:19.42 | Daemona | Your upload is bigger than 4Mb |
| 20:20.06 | kebinusan | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182711645731.jpg |
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| 20:21.52 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41569 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix a recursive stack overflow when using KTM support with KTM proper loaded. |
| 20:23.11 | AnduinLothar | mmm that woudl explain a few things |
| 20:23.25 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r41570 10VanasKoS/modules/PvPDataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS: exclude battlgrounds from pvp win/loss gathering |
| 20:25.24 | dodgizzla | Hm, how come DifficulityColor makes the text grey for bosses? :D |
| 20:25.26 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:03] <AnduinLothar> sag_ich_nicht: <--too easy, but thanks. i found a bug in blizzards macro code while creating my macro :O |
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| 20:26.29 | trh | dodgizzla: probably because they don't return a level on UnitLevel ;) |
| 20:27.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/65591-yboz |
| 20:27.40 | sag_ich_nicht | this macro |
| 20:27.58 | sag_ich_nicht | is not updating it's icon or tooltip when you hold down ctrl, but does the action it should do. |
| 20:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | it does update the icon & tooltip if you use a normal mount and not a summon. |
| 20:28.25 | vrak | tried using just #show ? |
| 20:28.28 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 20:28.47 | Dustwhisper | hmm need some omen help again |
| 20:28.59 | Dustwhisper | any reason why omen doesnt show threat from people with KTM suddenly? |
| 20:30.05 | hyperChipmunk | turn the option on? |
| 20:30.16 | Gnarfoz | I *hate* it when I come back, put my headset back on and just hear the sound of me getting logged out because of being afk for too long-.- |
| 20:30.46 | hyperChipmunk | watch shorter tv shows |
| 20:30.49 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: remove #showicon and showtooltip, they are not necessary |
| 20:30.58 | Gnarfoz | hyperChipmunk: eat faster, rather ^^ |
| 20:31.05 | dodgizzla | trh: Those bastards! |
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| 20:32.06 | Dustwhisper | hyperChipmunk what option? There was never an option from what i saw |
| 20:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | never mind |
| 20:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | it's the ; |
| 20:32.11 | Antiarc | Dustwhisper: It's in Display |
| 20:32.16 | Antiarc | And it's working for me at the moment... |
| 20:32.20 | sag_ich_nicht | slouken seems to have changed their behaviour a bit |
| 20:32.32 | sag_ich_nicht | still was used to using them because it would error otherwise :O |
| 20:32.33 | Jumoor | i love when i run wowaceupdater |
| 20:32.39 | Chompers | Antiarc: i've got a guildie who's got an omen problem |
| 20:32.42 | Jumoor | then come into game to find 60+ error messages waiting for me |
| 20:32.44 | Chompers | they dont see any threat, at all |
| 20:33.00 | Jumoor | yeah omen is broken |
| 20:33.07 | Jumoor | along with alot of other stuff as of this morning |
| 20:33.08 | Chompers | when they target someone, they dont see the name of the mob they're targeting on the omen window |
| 20:33.19 | Dustwhisper | aye it's ticked of for "Show KTM data" here aswell |
| 20:33.29 | Chompers | this was from nearly 24 hours ago |
| 20:33.35 | Dustwhisper | will it work even if KTM is showing aswell? |
| 20:33.43 | Antiarc | It should |
| 20:33.45 | Jumoor | testing is apparently hard. |
| 20:33.47 | Antiarc | Chompers: That'll happen if they're in a disabled state - ie, they're in a city. |
| 20:33.56 | Chompers | middle of karazhan |
| 20:34.02 | kovi | weird, my omen worked an hour ago :O |
| 20:34.11 | Jumoor | update it, and watch it break. |
| 20:34.15 | Chompers | i got them to delete their omen folder + SV file |
| 20:34.26 | Chompers | same thing |
| 20:34.29 | kovi | i updated like 5 hours ago |
| 20:34.30 | kovi | :S |
| 20:34.31 | Antiarc | Jumoor: Rather than insults, how about a debug stack so we can fix it? |
| 20:35.08 | Jumoor | run ace update |
| 20:35.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 20:35.10 | Jumoor | log in |
| 20:35.13 | Jumoor | there is your debug stack |
| 20:35.16 | Antiarc | I did about 5 minutes ago. |
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| 20:35.29 | Antiarc | If you can't give me an error message, ticket closed, worksfor me. |
| 20:36.03 | Chompers | hrm, it shows shadowfield threat but no one else :o |
| 20:36.04 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41571 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua): Recount - Removes a few lines of debug code |
| 20:36.39 | Mech0z | hmm recount really stacks up some MB |
| 20:36.50 | Cryect | you are prolly using the graph mode |
| 20:36.52 | Mech0z | was on 13 after 1 hour of trash |
| 20:36.57 | Cryect | which needs some optimization |
| 20:36.57 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=299081191&postId=2986647421&sid=1#2 |
| 20:36.58 | Fisker- | hiohoh |
| 20:36.59 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41572 10Assessment/Assessment.lua: Assessment: Added svn:keywords Rev |
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| 20:37.54 | Cryect | I prolly should look at adding few things to trim down on unnecssary time based data |
| 20:37.57 | Chompers | weird, i got her to check omens options, and all the threat bars appeared :S |
| 20:38.02 | Chompers | ah well at least it works now |
| 20:38.15 | Antiarc | Chompers: Any idea what she did so I can try to fix it? |
| 20:38.19 | Chompers | sorry for interrupting Antiarc :P |
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| 20:38.38 | Chompers | she made sure everyone was ticked in display>classes |
| 20:38.47 | Antiarc | Did she have people unticked? |
| 20:38.52 | Chompers | nope |
| 20:39.00 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 20:39.06 | Antiarc | So just unticked -> reticked? |
| 20:39.08 | Chompers | everything was ticked, same for 'always show self' |
| 20:39.20 | Antiarc | That's not lazy-loaded, so I'm not sure why that'd fix it... |
| 20:39.23 | Chompers | not even that, just checked the list and it started working |
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| 20:40.55 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41573 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Added svn:keywords Rev |
| 20:41.28 | Chompers | she says when she right clicked the omen icon, it started working |
| 20:42.02 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r41574 10ClassTimer/ (27 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: Reverted to old style again, i will not change it again as it jsut dosent work properly |
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| 20:46.06 | Mech0z | I dont get why antagonist is using 7-8 mb :/ |
| 20:46.44 | nymbia | because it starts with an 'a' |
| 20:46.53 | Mech0z | oh |
| 20:47.00 | Mech0z | makes sense |
| 20:47.09 | Lyfe | hah. nice. |
| 20:47.25 | nymbia | it gets blamed for the copies of the libraries it loads |
| 20:47.34 | nymbia | probably ace2 and others? |
| 20:47.36 | Mech0z | oh ok |
| 20:48.08 | Fisker- | Should almost rename Ace2 to !Ace2 |
| 20:48.25 | Lyfe | how does wow figure out which copy of an embedded mod to load? (especially if i have an copy that isn't embedded) |
| 20:48.36 | Fisker- | Ace does that for you |
| 20:49.05 | ag` | it looks trough all embeds, discards those with low version numbers |
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| 20:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 20:53.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i can claim this to be a nearly ultimate mount macro: http://pastey.net/65618-46fl |
| 20:54.14 | Morghus | Pfff.... hold on. I'll give you teh best ;D |
| 20:54.36 | Mikk | GoGoMount |
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| 20:54.38 | Mikk | ^ best |
| 20:54.49 | Morghus | http://pastey.net/65620 |
| 20:54.53 | vrak | you might want to add a [flying] to the stopmacro too |
| 20:55.01 | sag_ich_nicht | nah |
| 20:55.05 | Morghus | -That's- a good mount-macro :) |
| 20:55.09 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: http://ace.pastey.net/65621 <- got that on login, and also, it seems to have wiped my SVs? oO |
| 20:55.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus no it's not |
| 20:55.33 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: I'm still writing the database code |
| 20:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | mine can't even cause errors. |
| 20:55.50 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: ah, is it a total rewrite? :) |
| 20:55.57 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:54] <vrak> you might want to add a [flying] to the stopmacro too <--it's intentionally not there |
| 20:55.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 20:56.02 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Right -- the database and slash commands will be a separate addon |
| 20:56.11 | sag_ich_nicht | if i wanna unmount, i wanna unmount. no matter the height. |
| 20:56.29 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: ok, no surprise there, then. the error shouldn't be related to that, though, should it? |
| 20:57.08 | vrak | ok |
| 20:57.21 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: I've already fixed the error in my local copy |
| 20:57.27 | Gnarfoz | ok =) |
| 20:57.33 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 20:57.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus thanks for reminding me of /cancelform |
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| 20:58.11 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: how to configure it currently, then? |
| 20:58.29 | Morghus | sag_ich_nicht: Best macro for my needs :) |
| 20:58.53 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Edit the file manually, there are instructions in it. Back to the old days with the main addon! |
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| 20:59.00 | Gnarfoz | yay! :D |
| 20:59.35 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 20:59.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus why are you unregistering the error messages? |
| 20:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | in which situations do they pop up? |
| 21:00.59 | Morghus | If I spam the macro inside to cancel a form |
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| 21:01.06 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 21:02.16 | Morghus | It was originally a test, and to show people how to use macros. Haven't bothered to change it in any way since:P |
| 21:03.07 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: can't find TinyTipModuleCore, is it necessary, in existance at all, or just not yet published? ^^ |
| 21:03.44 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Not yet published |
| 21:03.49 | Gnarfoz | k |
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| 21:05.04 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: the old TinyTipExtras and Options certainly don't work with the new TinyTip, right? |
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| 21:09.31 | Mikk | I can answer that for him: "No" |
| 21:09.42 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 21:10.02 | Gnarfoz | also, nice intelligence check on the "options" xD didn't notice they were commented out :D |
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| 21:12.07 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Try out the latest copy |
| 21:12.13 | Gnarfoz | will do |
| 21:12.34 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r90 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Should be fully modularized now (except the localizations). This also fixes a bug from the last commit. |
| 21:13.11 | Mikk | Violation's broadcasting is silly. Why is it unpacking a table into separate AceComm args 9 by 9 when you could just shove the entire table into a single argument & send? |
| 21:13.24 | Peoii | ckknight: ping |
| 21:14.12 | Xuerian | Mikk: Got that ping from earlier? |
| 21:14.16 | Mikk | nop, missed it |
| 21:14.25 | Xuerian | sec. |
| 21:14.35 | trh | Mikk: mirc *hides* |
| 21:14.54 | trh | Mikk: you cant! i was hidden ;) |
| 21:14.57 | Xuerian | Opera? o_0 |
| 21:15.03 | Thrae | Mikk: irssi + anotherway.pl + screen_away.pl |
| 21:15.43 | trh | Thrae: *adds* ... and to be precise a complete snapshot of sunsite.unc.edu from 2007-06-23 at 11pm ;) |
| 21:15.46 | Mikk | What can I say... I'm a lazy sod.. Opera lets me browse, read mail, read newsfeeds and chat all in one |
| 21:15.52 | Mikk | Combined list of contacts and all |
| 21:16.05 | Mikk | Just gimme audible warning and i'm good |
| 21:16.11 | Xuerian | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2278.msg113979#msg113979 |
| 21:16.15 | trh | damn blessings card set so overpriced in the AH |
| 21:16.25 | Mikk | Wouldn't surprise me at all if it was scriptable though... there's a big effin scripting backend to the irc client |
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| 21:17.45 | Mikk | Xuerian: Wow.. I never knew GetMasterLootCandidate() could have holes in it |
| 21:18.04 | Mikk | It gets "17" from scanning the top end of the table (around the size of the raid) |
| 21:18.33 | Xuerian | Mikk: I'm at my relatives at the moment, so I'm too <s>lazy</s> busy to see what I did differently that worked |
| 21:18.52 | Mikk | You just did random(1,40) til you got an ok response |
| 21:19.08 | Xuerian | Ah :p |
| 21:19.13 | [Liquidor] | Wonder how I would react if my Water Elemental suddently one day opened trade window and asked "Water Please" during combat :(( |
| 21:19.15 | xyu | topics a little old |
| 21:19.22 | xyu | wau 1.8? :D |
| 21:19.36 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: still getting this error with latest rev: http://ace.pastey.net/65641 |
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| 21:21.11 | xyu | [Liquidor]: the water elemental should just be a water vendor imo. it's about as usefull as it gets in raids. Players able to /trade the water ele for instant 20 stack |
| 21:21.13 | xyu | hawt stuff |
| 21:21.17 | ben | Why does Omen keep going on standby |
| 21:21.23 | ben | is it because I remove the minimap button |
| 21:21.34 | [Liquidor] | xyu: PvP |
| 21:21.41 | [Liquidor] | PvE can go fuck itself |
| 21:22.05 | Mikk | Whoa. Now _THAT's_ a useful use for the water ele |
| 21:22.27 | xyu | doesn't matter, i'm lazy even during the 1:00 arena start time |
| 21:22.30 | Mikk | Actually all mages should get "Summon watercooler" or something.. like locks get soulwells |
| 21:22.34 | xyu | people still ask me for food :D |
| 21:22.46 | Mikk | "Summon waterwell" |
| 21:22.50 | Mikk | There ya go |
| 21:22.51 | rubik | hmm.. XLoot error.. [2007/06/24 11:52:25-601-x1]: XLoot-0.9.39822\XLoot.lua:550: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") |
| 21:24.19 | Peoii | [Liquidor]: Hold up, you mean people actually spec for that water elemental? I'm callin bull... |
| 21:24.27 | Mikk | xuerian: half the problem MAY be the function being called while you're just mousing around in the menu without actually having loot |
| 21:24.45 | Mikk | xuerian: it's prolly better to only call it when you're actually distributing loot randomly |
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| 21:25.05 | [Liquidor] | Peoii: Huh? Doesn't make any sence unless you haven't been playing for quite a while... let's say ... 1 yearr. |
| 21:25.09 | Mikk | oh sigh he logged off |
| 21:25.44 | Peoii | [Liquidor]: 10/48/3 for life. (sorry, it was a rather vague pun at the frost tree I guess :P) |
| 21:26.04 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r91 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed nil > 0 comparison in SetDefaultAnchor. |
| 21:26.40 | [Liquidor] | Fire and 5v5 arena... okaaay |
| 21:26.54 | Peoii | Works quite well |
| 21:28.09 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41576 10ReadySpells/Core.lua: ReadySpells: Tweak paladin stuff |
| 21:28.30 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Try that |
| 21:28.38 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: in a minute =) |
| 21:29.06 | xyu | anyone know what that addon is called by cladhaire that allows you to left click on coords in-game to add them to waypoints. It starts w/ a T |
| 21:29.17 | Saroz | ~ReadySpells |
| 21:29.22 | Peoii | xyu: tomTom |
| 21:29.33 | xyu | ah tha's it, i kept thinking it was Ttoms |
| 21:29.37 | xyu | thank you |
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| 21:30.01 | Gnarfoz | heh, easier to remember if you know about TomTom, the GPS navigation brand |
| 21:30.13 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41577 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Checks how linear the past value on the time value graph looks when it adds a new value and uses this to decide whether to discard the last value or not |
| 21:30.35 | xyu | ah, i don't ^^ |
| 21:30.56 | xyu | even though i do need GPS, i get lost in my own city ; ; |
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| 21:32.40 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r41578 10VisualHeal/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:32.40 | CIA-22 | VisualHeal: |
| 21:32.40 | CIA-22 | - Reverted unauthorized Korean infiltration. |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41579 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.lua: |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | XLootMaster: Move "Give Random Loot" to a separate function so we don't attempt |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | to calculate random targets every time we open the dewdrop menu but rather when |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | it is actually wanted. Might plug some stray assert()s seen in the field. |
| 21:33.10 | Gnarfoz | lol nice commit message there, xD |
| 21:34.23 | kebinusan | heh http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182720433512.png |
| 21:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | ppl who link pngs that aren't pngs also deserve to have their balls ripped off |
| 21:35.36 | kebinusan | I didnt look, someone linked it to me |
| 21:35.43 | kebinusan | but yeah Id agree |
| 21:35.46 | kebinusan | except in this case |
| 21:36.25 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: But omgosh, .png makes it kool right? |
| 21:36.33 | hyperChipmunk | except it isn't a png |
| 21:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | feh WARNING: url: wget failed to load URL http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182720433512.png |
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| 21:36.47 | hyperChipmunk | feh - No loadable images specified. |
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| 21:37.08 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41580 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua): Threat-1.0: Fixed a number of issues with global threat resets. Fixed pet threat. Optimized threat publish so that only changed threat values are published. |
| 21:37.42 | rubik | Antiarc: i got some stack overflow error with latest Omen.. hmm |
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| 21:37.49 | Antiarc | rubik: Already fixed |
| 21:38.22 | rubik | ahh cool.. was in a heroic so couldn't post earlier.. :P |
| 21:39.15 | Adirelle | Antiarc: wasup ? |
| 21:39.36 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Had a number of problems in the threat core related to threat clears. Think I got 'em. |
| 21:39.41 | Antiarc | Mostly copy-paste errors |
| 21:40.11 | Adirelle | Antiarc: btw, about Omen window placing, I've got some clue |
| 21:40.20 | Antiarc | It happens if you log out with any bars visible |
| 21:40.26 | Antiarc | I just need to do a clear before logout |
| 21:40.53 | Adirelle | any bars ? |
| 21:40.58 | Adirelle | you mean pullout bar ? |
| 21:40.59 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 21:41.00 | Antiarc | No |
| 21:41.04 | Antiarc | Just the threat list |
| 21:41.16 | Antiarc | Because its position is saved by its topleft corner, not its anchored corner |
| 21:41.19 | Antiarc | which is stupid |
| 21:41.35 | Fisker- | hyperChipmunk as far as i know 4chan only lets proper user agents load images |
| 21:42.44 | Adirelle | I'm using Omen as LoD with delayed load (using AddonLoader), I'm wondering if it wouldn't cause other issues |
| 21:42.59 | Adirelle | I also noticed Omen doesn't seem to save window position in db |
| 21:43.06 | CIA-22 | 03belazor * r41581 10CharacterInfo/CharacterInfo.toc: |
| 21:43.06 | CIA-22 | CharacterInfo: |
| 21:43.06 | CIA-22 | - TOC bump to 2.1 |
| 21:43.11 | Antiarc | It doesn't; it relies on Bliz to save and restore the position |
| 21:45.46 | Adirelle | do them fixed the "Oops I forget the position because the addon was disabled" bug ? |
| 21:45.53 | Adirelle | s/get/got/ |
| 21:46.24 | Antiarc | I think they did |
| 21:46.36 | Mikk | Hmm.. wouldn't it be kinda cool to have lots of addons LoadManager:AddonLoader and set to "X-LoadOn-Execute: delayed" or something like that, meaning that they'll be loaded incrementally with like a 0.5s delay when the game has started up? |
| 21:46.48 | Mikk | That way you'd get much faster load time, and little bursts of lag in the beginning |
| 21:46.53 | Adirelle | Mikk: odd, I added something like that locally :p |
| 21:47.16 | Mikk | I mean, ok, some addons really need to load straight away |
| 21:47.20 | Mikk | But stuff like damagemeters and whatnot.... ? |
| 21:47.35 | Adirelle | Mikk: http://ace.pastey.net/65660 |
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| 21:48.54 | Mikk | Adirelle: whewt |
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| 21:49.41 | Mikk | Tbh, change that to "LoadOn-Execute: delayed" to be backwards compatible with "LoadOn-Execute: doesntmatterwhatyoutypehere" |
| 21:49.46 | Mikk | And then commit it |
| 21:50.10 | Adirelle | Mikk: added that X-LoadOn-Instance: [party|raid|any] too, dunno if it is really useful |
| 21:50.31 | Mikk | Good for user config if nothing else |
| 21:50.53 | Mikk | At least I _THINK_ it doesn't matter what LoadOn-Execute: is set to |
| 21:50.55 | Mikk | In the old ver that is |
| 21:51.06 | Adirelle | Mikk: Execute should be LUA code... |
| 21:51.14 | Mikk | ... |
| 21:51.21 | Mikk | I'm thinking of something else then |
| 21:51.38 | Mikk | ## X-LoadOn-Always: true |
| 21:51.42 | Mikk | that one |
| 21:51.53 | Adirelle | yeah, I thought about it too |
| 21:51.58 | Mikk | Of course, it'd only be a good idea if old code doesn't barf out on it being something other than true/false |
| 21:52.00 | Adirelle | always load... but not *now* |
| 21:52.11 | Adirelle | oh |
| 21:52.14 | Adirelle | wait |
| 21:52.21 | Thrae | hmm |
| 21:52.25 | Mikk | My thinking here was that if old versions would parse "delayed" as "true", upgrading the addon without upgrading addonloader wouldn't bite them in the arse |
| 21:52.29 | Adirelle | ['X-LoadOn-Always'] = function(addon, metadata) |
| 21:52.29 | Adirelle | LoadAddOn(addon) |
| 21:52.29 | Adirelle | end, |
| 21:52.36 | Adirelle | (sry for pastey) |
| 21:52.40 | Adirelle | I think it doesn't carE... |
| 21:52.42 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Were you able to test it? |
| 21:52.56 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: yes, works with the default settings, but |
| 21:53.01 | Adirelle | mikk: right |
| 21:53.08 | Adirelle | and Instance too... then... |
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| 21:53.09 | Mikk | Gogo tbh =) |
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| 21:53.19 | Mikk | Well, Instance you can't really cheat around |
| 21:53.28 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: even commenting in the 'options' block makes it silently fail (and I get the default tooltip, it looks like) |
| 21:53.35 | Mikk | But that sounds much more like a user config thing than something you'd default an addon to |
| 21:54.13 | Adirelle | not false |
| 21:54.25 | Mikk | Adirelle: Did you try changing a bunch of addons to throttled? |
| 21:54.39 | Mikk | Did it work out as well as I'm hoping? :P |
| 21:54.41 | Adirelle | Mikk: I tried, some like it, some not |
| 21:54.44 | Gnarfoz | s/the/the unmodified/ |
| 21:54.52 | Mikk | Ofc, some addons just aren't built to be LOD |
| 21:55.02 | Adirelle | posted about it in the S&D thread |
| 21:55.10 | Adirelle | Grid doesn't seem to like it |
| 21:55.26 | Adirelle | oRa2, BigWigs, LittleWigs, Omen, Violation doesn't care |
| 21:55.33 | Mikk | Not surprised that an UF addon doesn't like it |
| 21:55.40 | Adirelle | as long as I setup the toc correctly |
| 21:55.52 | Adirelle | I put Grid on "LoadOn-Raid" |
| 21:56.02 | Adirelle | and tried to trigger loading manually with ACP |
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| 21:56.32 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r92 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Changed all the commented-out options to 'nil' (default behavior) because Gnarfoz didn't notice that they were all set to something. |
| 21:56.37 | Adirelle | btw, there's some tricky things to do if the addon is the dependency of another one that ain't LoD |
| 21:56.47 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: huh? :D |
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| 21:57.12 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: You didn't notice "FormatDisabled" was already set to true ;) |
| 21:57.26 | Adirelle | well... tricky is not the real word, you have to add "LoadOnDemand:1" and "LoadWith:MyMainAddon" to prevent loading because of the dependent addon |
| 21:57.29 | Gnarfoz | err right |
| 21:57.46 | Gnarfoz | I humbly serve as a meter of the average user in this case, then ;D |
| 21:57.58 | Mikk | aka n00b |
| 21:57.59 | Mikk | _P |
| 21:58.03 | Mikk | :P |
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| 21:58.48 | Adirelle | erm... the feature thing is borked with metadata that expects real value :/ |
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| 22:00.06 | Mikk | ? |
| 22:00.10 | Adirelle | s/feature/overrides/ |
| 22:00.46 | Adirelle | I meant, using Instance as overrides will override on *any* instance as no option can be passed by |
| 22:01.06 | Adirelle | and if I add the "delayed" option to "Always", same problem |
| 22:01.24 | Mikk | I'm not getting it |
| 22:01.31 | Cryect | Curious anyone know how an addon can set it so wow freezes when you logout? |
| 22:01.40 | Mikk | Oh, you can't put in values in the commandline overrides stuff? |
| 22:01.53 | Mikk | Cryect: just go into a neverending loop on logout. there ya go. |
| 22:02.11 | Cryect | Mikk: Yeah but what gets called on logout? |
| 22:02.22 | Mikk | Lots of events |
| 22:02.31 | Cryect | Having an issue in Recount that something is now freezing it sometimes |
| 22:02.49 | Cryect | and the number of events that Recount uses can be counted on one hand |
| 22:02.52 | Mikk | Adirelle: Anyway, the commandline override stuff is horrid. I'm thinking tossing it out is a good idea. Then add a separate GUI |
| 22:03.49 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41582 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes bug with pet owner determination |
| 22:04.20 | Adirelle | mikk: can you say something to which I can respond "you're wrong ?" it's very frustrating to always answer "right..." |
| 22:04.35 | Mikk | Windows kicks ass |
| 22:05.06 | Adirelle | ah ! |
| 22:05.10 | Adirelle | u r rong ! |
| 22:05.11 | Mikk | Vista is the greatest invention to ever come out of redmond |
| 22:05.13 | Adirelle | thanx :p |
| 22:05.19 | vodrin | bush was the best president since nixon |
| 22:07.27 | Adirelle | Mikk: I just noticed something in my source |
| 22:07.53 | Adirelle | look at line 144 of the pastey (http://ace.pastey.net/65660?hi=144) |
| 22:08.04 | Adirelle | and then hear me yelling "d'oh" |
| 22:08.40 | Mikk | hahahaa |
| 22:08.55 | Mikk | copypaste error 101 |
| 22:09.17 | Mikk | btw i'm so going to rip all the module lols out of that at some point |
| 22:10.13 | Adirelle | module lols ? |
| 22:10.25 | Adirelle | er... just thought about something |
| 22:10.28 | Mikk | Actually, de-Ace it totally |
| 22:10.36 | Adirelle | oh would be nice I guess |
| 22:11.31 | Mikk | Turn it into an ultraminimalistic stub that doesn't do anything visible at all. Except output loaded/error messages. |
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| 22:12.28 | raider|poul | so the warblade droped :) |
| 22:12.32 | Mikk | The UI bit would be Ace, but that's a separate addon |
| 22:12.36 | kebinusan | does postal have any kind of mail history to see who you sent stuff to? |
| 22:12.41 | Mikk | no |
| 22:12.45 | raider|poul | http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/uploads/15_legendary.jpg |
| 22:13.04 | kebinusan | is there a mail mod that does? |
| 22:13.55 | Gnarfoz | raider|poul: already killed the page -.- |
| 22:14.09 | dodgizzla | Hu? So I get the "Fatality!" sound but bugsack say "No errors yay!" |
| 22:14.10 | Killmore | hahaha |
| 22:14.47 | Peoii | That legendary set just erks me :P |
| 22:15.14 | Killmore | can anyone upload the screenshot to imageshack since the site is down ? |
| 22:15.43 | Boubouille | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/15_legendary.jpg |
| 22:15.45 | Boubouille | :) |
| 22:16.02 | Peoii | "Hay! Lets give Casters a legendary, and then immediately after it, put out an xpac which will render it near worthless" Followed by: "QQ I'm a warrior and my TF got minorly reduced, I need a new legendary" -> "Blizzard here, never fear! we have not one by 2 for you!" |
| 22:16.07 | Gnarfoz | lol imageshack would be like, the worst alternative ever |
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| 22:16.18 | Gnarfoz | also, Boubouille to the rescue |
| 22:16.25 | Boubouille | Peoii : HEY LET'S GIVE A HUNTER A LEGENDARY |
| 22:16.31 | Boubouille | Oh, wait. |
| 22:16.33 | Cryect | TF |
| 22:16.33 | Boubouille | no. actually. |
| 22:16.34 | Cryect | :-p |
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| 22:16.40 | Peoii | You can wear TF ;) |
| 22:16.43 | Boubouille | ... I hate you. |
| 22:16.44 | Boubouille | :( |
| 22:16.49 | Fisker- | now we just need |Pixel| to update the whitelist |
| 22:16.51 | Fisker- | :P |
| 22:16.54 | Mikk | well.. that bloody jpg is 600K |
| 22:16.58 | Mikk | no wonder you killed the site |
| 22:17.00 | Fisker- | but i told you it was fail |
| 22:17.06 | Adirelle | re |
| 22:17.11 | Fisker- | the site was killed for cpu usage not bandwitdh |
| 22:17.15 | Fisker- | which is pretty fail in itself |
| 22:17.24 | Fisker- | cpu quota = i lol'd |
| 22:17.32 | Adirelle | mikk: was thinking of detected LoD addon that lists AddonLoader in LoadManagers but not known metadata |
| 22:17.38 | |Pixel| | I will, I will |
| 22:17.40 | Adirelle | s/cted/cting/ |
| 22:17.57 | |Pixel| | tomorrow, promised |
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| 22:18.27 | Mikk | Adirelle: You can't access the LoadManagers field =( |
| 22:18.41 | Adirelle | erm... doomed then ? |
| 22:18.58 | Arrowmaster | so we just got 5 epixs from a single murloc pack in SSC |
| 22:19.00 | Fisker- | but it's fail |
| 22:19.05 | Fisker- | cause this confirms it's a chance drop |
| 22:19.12 | Fisker- | Which means that WoW = World of Castercraft |
| 22:19.16 | Mikk | Adirelle: hm, why? |
| 22:19.36 | Mikk | Oh, your idea? Yhea, certainly |
| 22:19.39 | Arrowmaster | 2 spyglasses, a druid staff, and 2 different bop leatherworking patterns |
| 22:19.42 | Fisker- | since blizzard said they were going to redesign legendary drops so instead of luck it required tremendous amount of work |
| 22:19.53 | Fisker- | But of course that was only for the caster staff then |
| 22:19.56 | Mikk | But if someone just goes "LoadManagers:AddonLoader" and doesn't add any metadata, that's their fault :P |
| 22:20.17 | Mikk | Then again yeah I see what you're saying I think... be nice to force load stuff using keywords we don't know about yet |
| 22:20.26 | Mikk | But yeah doomed |
| 22:21.12 | [Ammo] | hmm nice |
| 22:21.22 | [Ammo] | Forte got one part of the war blades of illidan |
| 22:21.29 | Fisker- | it's not nice |
| 22:21.31 | Fisker- | it's fail |
| 22:21.31 | [Ammo] | it's being spammed all over the server ofcourse |
| 22:21.35 | Peoii | [2007/06/24 14:08:55-173-x1]: AceComm-2.0-41562 (Ace2):1133: attempt to concatenate local 'dist' (a nil value) |
| 22:21.41 | Fisker- | You could spam it without :P |
| 22:21.59 | Fisker- | As apparently the item became linkable if you were engaged with the illidan encounter for an unknown amount of time |
| 22:22.26 | Fisker- | probably during one of the phases |
| 22:22.44 | Adirelle | Mikk: that was the idea :/ |
| 22:29.12 | sylvanaar | why not just add a keyword which you loadstring |
| 22:29.12 | Mikk | Adirelle: One could certainly put in some X-AddonLoader thingy |
| 22:29.13 | Mikk | Woudl require all authors to use it tho |
| 22:29.15 | Mikk | Or hmm |
| 22:29.15 | Mikk | Yeah something like that |
| 22:29.15 | nymbia | the point of having universal toc fields is so you don't need to have that |
| 22:29.15 | Mikk | nymbia: and then you add a new toc field in your new addon, and the user has an old addon loader ... |
| 22:29.15 | nymbia | but i came in halfway through the conversation, what's the problem we're trying to solve? |
| 22:29.15 | AnduinLothar | Error: Assertion failed: type(nil --[=[partyUnits[player]]=]) == "string" |
| 22:29.16 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r41583 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: update koKR locals |
| 22:29.16 | Mikk | X-LoadOn-UnknownKeywords: true |
| 22:29.16 | Mikk | whewt |
| 22:29.16 | Mikk | Not that we'd be able to detect that there's unknown keywords |
| 22:29.16 | Mikk | But that's the assumption |
| 22:29.17 | Adirelle | I'm considering putting loadmanagers in every addon "just to see" how they behave |
| 22:29.17 | sylvanaar | just x-LoadOn: function() return true end |
| 22:29.17 | Mikk | Doesn't help sylv |
| 22:29.17 | Adirelle | (and how it cut down the initial loading time) |
| 22:29.17 | sylvanaar | why |
| 22:29.17 | Mikk | oh |
| 22:29.17 | nymbia | theres an 'always' field already |
| 22:29.17 | nymbia | anyway |
| 22:29.17 | Mikk | But we don't WANT always |
| 22:29.17 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41584 10beql/ (. beql.lua beql.toc questlog.lua tracker.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:29.17 | CIA-22 | beql |
| 22:29.17 | CIA-22 | - Version 0.81 |
| 22:29.17 | CIA-22 | - Changed addon behaviour on CT_Mod loaded, no more disabling Qeust Level show, u must manually do it from either beql or from the other addon which supports it |
| 22:29.17 | CIA-22 | - Added Waterfall config dialog |
| 22:29.17 | CIA-22 | - Added a config button on the questlog frame |
| 22:29.17 | CIA-22 | - Now the questracker grows in direction where it finds place instead of only growing down |
| 22:29.17 | Mikk | We're trying to create some future safety here |
| 22:29.18 | sylvanaar | no, im saying let them supply Lua code |
| 22:29.19 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: setting MAnchor to "CURSOR" gives: http://ace.pastey.net/65685 |
| 22:29.19 | nymbia | sylvanaar: already does |
| 22:29.19 | Gnarfoz | FAnchor I can set to "CURSOR" |
| 22:29.19 | Shirik | http://ace.pastey.net/65685 |
| 22:29.19 | Shirik | bah, he already linked it |
| 22:29.19 | sylvanaar | thats all you need in the toc - the rest is more of a user thing |
| 22:29.19 | Gnarfoz | heh. |
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| 22:29.19 | Mikk | Anyway... Adirelle added an "X-LoadOn-Instance" now |
| 22:29.19 | Gnarfoz | I had the line waiting for the link, Shirik, just mis-pasted ^^ |
| 22:29.19 | Mikk | But that obviously won't work for people with old addonloaders and new addons |
| 22:29.20 | Mikk | See the problem? |
| 22:29.20 | Adirelle | Mikk: not yet commited tho |
| 22:29.20 | nymbia | yes and no |
| 22:29.35 | Mikk | The spec isn't very future-friendly |
| 22:29.35 | sylvanaar | seems like you should only use 1 field |
| 22:29.35 | Mikk | As there's nothing to fall back on if you don't recognize new keywords |
| 22:29.35 | nymbia | problem is easily fixed by updating, and it's not worth throwing in new toc fields. |
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| 22:29.45 | Adirelle | X-LoadOn-Fallback ?? :p |
| 22:29.56 | nymbia | well, what can you do? either add a generic, cluttery toc field that tells addonloader that it should be managing it |
| 22:30.21 | nymbia | or.. |
| 22:30.26 | nymbia | something else that i just forget |
| 22:30.34 | nymbia | forgot as well |
| 22:30.34 | Mikk | fuck the users in teh sake of eliteness! |
| 22:30.35 | Mikk | yes! win! |
| 22:30.42 | nymbia | ... |
| 22:31.05 | sylvanaar | just assume control of all LoD addons, and default to take no action |
| 22:31.17 | nymbia | well, ask blizzard to let us access the LoadManagers field |
| 22:31.35 | Mikk | Anyway, this whole problem is actually easily solvable |
| 22:31.39 | Mikk | Don't use lots of different names |
| 22:31.46 | Mikk | Just go X-LoadOn1: somemethod |
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| 22:31.51 | sylvanaar | i made a post about it, they said they wont be changing it |
| 22:31.51 | Mikk | X-LoadOn2: someothermethod |
| 22:31.51 | Thorgard12 | ckknight, small issue with CowTip. The anchor frame you use to position the tooltip doesn't correspond to where the tooltip actually gets placed when you've changed the scale of the tooltip. |
| 22:32.14 | Mikk | Then you can iterate known names and see if you encounter something unknown |
| 22:32.25 | sylvanaar | why not use a comma |
| 22:32.56 | Mikk | That's a bit chancy with methods with complex arg syntax |
| 22:33.38 | Mikk | Most addons will only use one either way |
| 22:33.49 | sylvanaar | you will have an easier time getting people to use it if there is only 1 toc field i think - might just be me |
| 22:34.30 | Mikk | Well, you could certainly have a comma separated list of methods and put args in other fields |
| 22:34.41 | Mikk | But.. blergh |
| 22:34.46 | Mikk | Nah, that's bloaty too |
| 22:34.51 | nymbia | that's greek to an author adding support for it |
| 22:34.56 | Mikk | Yeah |
| 22:35.17 | Mikk | X-LoadOn: instance any |
| 22:35.23 | Mikk | X-LoadOn2: mail |
| 22:35.35 | sylvanaar | seriously how many different "load points" can there be |
| 22:35.40 | durcyn | why not instance:any, mail, etc |
| 22:35.42 | Mikk | X-LoadOn3: Execute blah blah lots of lua code blah blah balh .... |
| 22:35.55 | Adirelle | Mikk: X-LoadOn: instance(any)/mail |
| 22:35.59 | Mikk | because some args are very complicated |
| 22:36.09 | Mikk | you can't put lua code in something as simplistic as that |
| 22:36.38 | vodrin | X-LoadOnInstance: Any |
| 22:36.47 | vodrin | X-LoadOn: Mail, Auction |
| 22:36.49 | Adirelle | no, but there is something for lua code yet |
| 22:37.00 | Mikk | That's the current approach vodrin. But there's problems with it |
| 22:37.04 | Punkie` | Someone on my server just got the Warglave of Azzinoth |
| 22:37.08 | vodrin | my bad ^_^ |
| 22:37.17 | nymbia | Punkie`: OLD NEWS |
| 22:37.19 | Punkie` | sigh |
| 22:37.23 | Punkie` | I just saw him in IF! |
| 22:37.25 | Punkie` | damnit |
| 22:37.29 | nymbia | hehe |
| 22:37.33 | vodrin | heh |
| 22:37.34 | Adirelle | just keep a field for simple condition (instance, always, whenever) and another one (execute) for trickier ones |
| 22:37.34 | Mikk | We've already killed a forum server watching the SSes :P |
| 22:37.39 | Punkie` | He has about 80 people on /follow |
| 22:37.45 | vodrin | how has he got it |
| 22:38.05 | nymbia | event handlers, hooks, slash commands.. it's not that easy ;) |
| 22:38.10 | Mikk | he killed a beastly fido and it dropped |
| 22:38.17 | Adirelle | nymbia: keep thoses untouched |
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| 22:38.34 | Mikk | I prefer designs that scale |
| 22:38.55 | Mikk | Having "simple" ones in one field and then extending them later to take arguments, possibly complex ones = woups damnit |
| 22:39.22 | Funkeh` | nn guy |
| 22:39.25 | Funkeh` | s* |
| 22:39.37 | Mikk | Adirelle: Anyway, we don't need to solve this today. |
| 22:39.46 | Mikk | I say add the stuff you were hacking on. It's cool as heck :> |
| 22:39.55 | Mikk | (And the important one is backward compatible) |
| 22:40.08 | Adirelle | (but Instance) |
| 22:40.19 | Mikk | Yeah you can skip that one I suppose |
| 22:40.33 | Adirelle | I'd use a mixed case : -OnLoad with simple conditions (Always, AuctionHouse, Arena, Bank, Battleground, Combat, Crafting, Group, Guild, Instance,Mailbox, Merchant, NotResting, PvPFlagged, Raid, Resting) |
| 22:41.00 | Mikk | nymbia: Adirelle and I (separately) had the idea to let some addons load on a timer AFTER login |
| 22:41.13 | Mikk | "unimportant" stuff like damagemeters and whatnot |
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| 22:41.36 | Adirelle | Mikk: actually I'm wondering if not all loading shouldn't be throttled |
| 22:41.47 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r41585 10Decursive/ (4 files): |
| 22:41.47 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 22:41.47 | CIA-22 | - A small change in the "spell success" local |
| 22:41.47 | Mikk | Not a good idea I think |
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| 22:41.53 | kergoth | ah, to speed up the initial load? get you into the game fast and load the rest then? |
| 22:42.00 | Mikk | yeah |
| 22:42.00 | nymbia | Mikk: could just do that automatically with stuff like 'LoadOn-Always' |
| 22:42.01 | Adirelle | I have put lots of addon on "NotResting" and it's a real pain when going out of any city :/ |
| 22:42.22 | kergoth | sounds like a good idea |
| 22:42.36 | Adirelle | nymbia: that's the way we chosen : using "X-LoadOn-Always: delayed" |
| 22:42.43 | Adirelle | actually loading an addon every 2 seconds |
| 22:42.47 | nymbia | Adirelle: but with stuff like combat, raid, casting.. it may be important to get it loaded during the event |
| 22:43.00 | Mikk | Adirelle: well, if we do extend the spec, it sounds like a good idea to be able to specify per addon if it's ok to delay it or not |
| 22:43.19 | Mikk | or rather per event |
| 22:43.22 | Mikk | and addon |
| 22:43.25 | Adirelle | yeah |
| 22:43.25 | Mikk | ofc |
| 22:43.27 | nymbia | Adirelle: why is the 'delayed' part necessary? anything that has "X-LoadOn-Always: true" can be loaded delayed, imo. |
| 22:43.30 | kergoth | is addonloader still gonna get an mcp/acp style interface to configure load rules, or sticking to just loading? |
| 22:43.35 | nymbia | don't complicate it more than it needs to be :( |
| 22:43.40 | Adirelle | far better, but... it adds another toc field :/ |
| 22:44.18 | [gk]Hotphoenix | could simply add a 'priority' setting for mods that users can set to which ones they want loading first |
| 22:44.21 | Adirelle | kergoth: sticking to loading (though AddonLoader has an override feature) |
| 22:44.44 | Mikk | kergoth: we were thinking that ACP/MCP would get some control over AddonLoader |
| 22:44.51 | kergoth | nod. someone should hack up acp/mcp to support configuring addonloader's load overrides/rules then, since the existing interface is a pain |
| 22:44.54 | Mikk | And possibly craft a separate AddonLoader-UI |
| 22:44.54 | kergoth | Mikk, heh :) |
| 22:44.58 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:45.47 | BankZ | I wish they would add the ability to only shot in-combat data to violation |
| 22:45.56 | Adirelle | erm... "X-LoadOn-Delayed: allow" ? |
| 22:46.05 | BankZ | violation is becoming the best damage meter |
| 22:46.07 | Mikk | why? |
| 22:46.14 | nymbia | Adirelle: why? |
| 22:46.24 | Mikk | Oh, you mean for all events? |
| 22:46.31 | Adirelle | nymbia: "<Mikk> Adirelle: well, if we do extend the spec, it sounds like a good idea to be able to specify per addon if it's ok to delay it or not" |
| 22:46.45 | Mikk | I think it needs to be separate per event |
| 22:46.59 | rubik | sooo.. wowhead.com was sold, it looks like? does that mean that it'll turn into shit like thottbot did? |
| 22:47.00 | Adirelle | though I would prefer "X-AllowDelayedLoad: true" |
| 22:47.10 | kergoth | i could see throttling being useful for more than just always indeed. loading 42 addons when leaving town or joining a group just doesnt work |
| 22:47.10 | Mikk | X-OnLoad: combat |
| 22:47.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:47.14 | Mikk | X-OnLoad: PvP delayed |
| 22:47.21 | Adirelle | Mikk: eek |
| 22:47.34 | Adirelle | Mikk: got it, too complicated for this night :p |
| 22:47.40 | Mikk | ya =) |
| 22:47.43 | Adirelle | I'll stick to the delayed one for now |
| 22:47.47 | Mikk | let's mull it over and talk more tomorrow =) |
| 22:47.53 | Adirelle | is 2 seconds too long ? |
| 22:48.02 | Mikk | i'd go with 1 personally i think |
| 22:48.12 | Mikk | but i haven't tested ofc =) |
| 22:48.28 | Adirelle | FPS-dependant ? |
| 22:48.29 | Adirelle | j/k :p |
| 22:48.35 | Mikk | ew =) |
| 22:48.46 | Mikk | you could conceivably stat the time taken by LoadAddon calls tho |
| 22:48.53 | Mikk | keep loading til you hit some limit |
| 22:49.14 | Adirelle | and it may brew coffee too |
| 22:49.19 | Mikk | Yes! coffee! |
| 22:49.21 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r41586 10VanasKoS/modules/ (DataGatherer.lua WarnFrame.lua): VanasKoS: bugfixes |
| 22:49.59 | Mikk | WHY ISN'T MY ACEDB FILLING OUT THE BLOODY DEFAULTS FOR ME?!?! |
| 22:50.14 | trh | Mikk: i think pebkac :P |
| 22:50.20 | Mikk | this is very likely |
| 22:50.23 | Mikk | unfortunately :< |
| 22:50.26 | BankZ | Is TinyTip broken? |
| 22:51.42 | Adirelle | btw, is starting from "AceEvent_FullyInitialized" event sufficient as an initial delay ? |
| 22:51.45 | Thorgard12 | Aurgh. |
| 22:52.02 | Mikk | Bloody odd tbh.. It fills out defaults just fine if I switch to a brand new profile and reload ui. But not if I just switch to a brand new profile. |
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| 22:52.33 | Mikk | Adirelle: Register your own PEW tbh. that's what it'll be in the end. |
| 22:52.54 | Mikk | Then again maybe AceEvent_FullyInitialized == PEW |
| 22:53.04 | nymbia | usually yeah |
| 22:53.22 | Thorgard12 | Hmm.. |
| 22:53.23 | Adirelle | wait for PEW, count to 100, start loading addons :p |
| 22:53.30 | Mikk | o.O |
| 22:53.31 | kergoth | Mikk, wtb X-LoadOn-Prof: Prospecting (or whatever) |
| 22:53.46 | Mikk | humz doesn't that exist? |
| 22:54.22 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41587 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (WhisperFu.lua WhisperFuLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 22:54.22 | CIA-22 | FuBar_WhisperFu |
| 22:54.22 | CIA-22 | - Significant memory improvements. Previously, when a message was sent/received, all of the menus were updated then. Now, a flag is set, and the menus are only updated when the menu is requested. |
| 22:54.28 | kergoth | dont think so. didnt think it did when i looked last. cartographer_Professions does just that, but itd be useful generic |
| 22:55.56 | Mikk | kergoth: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:AddonLoader |
| 22:56.36 | kergoth | thanks :) i'll probably add it myself if its lack annoys me sufficiently |
| 22:57.01 | Mikk | i'd rather fix the spec first :S |
| 22:58.53 | [gk]Hotphoenix | adding to the talk about addon loading being held, would it be a viable extention to have addon profiles, eg selecting only raid mods to load when your in a raid etc |
| 23:01.02 | kergoth | those addons can already have themselves loaded only in a raid via X-LoadOn-Raid :P but i'm profiles would have some other use |
| 23:01.54 | BankZ | I keep getting this error: |
| 23:01.55 | BankZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.01 | BankZ | known issue? |
| 23:03.02 | nymbia | BankZ: that's not an error, that's part of one ;) |
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| 23:03.24 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41588 10beql/options.lua: beql: Tracker locked release mouse events |
| 23:05.07 | BankZ | im reinstalling and gonna try again |
| 23:05.49 | Adirelle | erm... I don't have to check if all my addons are loaded, right ? has the LoadAddOn hook will remove them anyway |
| 23:05.56 | Adirelle | (I meant from self.addons) |
| 23:06.15 | BankZ | Date: 2007-06-24 19:05:24ID: 51Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\HotMan\HotMan.lua line 15: Cannot find a library instance of Surface-1.0.Debug: [C]: ? [C]: error() Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:470: AceLibrary() HotMan\HotMan.lua:15: in main chunk |
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| 23:07.41 | Mikk | [gk]Hotphoenix: Yeah, once a UI is written, you could certainly control addon loading per characters or whatever |
| 23:07.50 | theoddone33 | anyone use henge? |
| 23:09.22 | theoddone33 | it's got spots for spells that I have, but the spells aren't in there |
| 23:09.28 | theoddone33 | it's kind of odd |
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| 23:09.51 | BankZ | Whats a good addon to time my HoTs and DoTs |
| 23:09.59 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41589 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (WhisperFu.lua WhisperFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_WhisperFu: Added wrap length option - so that messages past a certain text length are automatically wrapped in the tooltip |
| 23:11.26 | BankZ | Any recommendations? |
| 23:12.01 | BankZ | doesnt seem like any good options |
| 23:12.56 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41590 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes logging out/reloading UI issues |
| 23:13.23 | Trancer | Adirelle: you make changes to Omen as well? |
| 23:14.03 | Adirelle | Trancer: not really |
| 23:14.08 | Trancer | k |
| 23:14.15 | Trancer | some error with the warning threshold slider |
| 23:14.55 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41591 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Some missing code |
| 23:15.04 | Adirelle | Mikk: rofl, added an initial 10 second delay and put pitbull and prat in delayed |
| 23:15.21 | Adirelle | everything fine |
| 23:15.36 | Adirelle | and watching your addon loading one by one is quite fun :p |
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| 23:16.17 | Adirelle | though I'll remove it, incombatlockdown would cause great troubles |
| 23:16.26 | Mikk | haha |
| 23:16.39 | Mikk | Trancer: Gimme the error |
| 23:17.04 | BankZ | damn, something is screwy |
| 23:17.05 | Adirelle | btw, LoadManager field seems cached. I have to restart WoW to take the new value into account |
| 23:17.50 | BankZ | none else is having problems with addons? |
| 23:18.00 | Mikk | Adirelle: Like most everything TOC then |
| 23:18.13 | BankZ | I think the new WAU is messed up |
| 23:18.24 | Mikk | Adirelle: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:AddonLoader sums up my thoughts I think. Read tomorrow or so :> |
| 23:18.34 | BankZ | Message: ..\AddOns\TinyTipExtras\TinyTipExtras.lua line 22: Cannot find a library instance of TipLib-1.0. |
| 23:20.40 | BankZ | it looks like its messing up the libs |
| 23:20.45 | Adirelle | Antiarc: still getting omen to reset pos |
| 23:22.00 | Trancer | Mikk: no error really |
| 23:22.03 | Trancer | when slider goes above 100% |
| 23:22.09 | Trancer | it says 01.12% etc. |
| 23:22.12 | Trancer | instead of 101.12% |
| 23:22.15 | Trancer | looks rather.. odd |
| 23:23.34 | Trancer | now I need a Prat developer :p |
| 23:23.50 | Mikk | Hrmph, what's the point of even being able to specify two decimal point precision |
| 23:24.19 | Trancer | no clue |
| 23:24.27 | Mikk | I'll wager a guess that the reason it says 01.12% is that that's all that fits in the text window |
| 23:24.31 | Mikk | The 1 is still there but off the screen |
| 23:24.38 | Mikk | Off the edge of the control i mean |
| 23:24.53 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41592 10beql/questlog.lua: beql - fixed hook QuestLogTitleButton_Onclick compatibility with LightHeaded |
| 23:25.02 | Shirik | control? |
| 23:25.04 | Shirik | this isn't VB! |
| 23:25.09 | Adirelle | ah damn it, grid should be dependant on ora2, so it forces it to load :/ |
| 23:25.09 | Shirik | they're called widgets! |
| 23:25.20 | Trancer | probly the box is full yeah |
| 23:25.27 | Trancer | in general that widget should be smarter |
| 23:25.37 | Trancer | threshold was on 90% by default |
| 23:25.40 | Trancer | I am a ranged caster |
| 23:25.43 | Trancer | should be on 120% default |
| 23:25.46 | BankZ | For WAU is it best to use WITH externals? |
| 23:25.49 | Shirik | =( |
| 23:25.58 | Mikk | BankZ: without externals for teh win |
| 23:25.59 | sbu | BankZ: mh, why? |
| 23:26.33 | BankZ | so I want the option WITH unchecked? |
| 23:26.48 | Trancer | just dont press f10 |
| 23:26.48 | Mikk | taht'd be the logical conclusion :P |
| 23:27.03 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r41593 10Grid/ (GridLayout.lua GridStatusAuras.lua): |
| 23:27.03 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 23:27.03 | CIA-22 | Auras - don't clear auras on death |
| 23:27.04 | CIA-22 | Layout - attempt to workaround raid header lockups |
| 23:27.35 | BankZ | and auto down deps checked? |
| 23:27.40 | Trancer | Mikk: can you change the .toc of Prat? |
| 23:27.56 | Trancer | or should I wait for a prat dev? |
| 23:27.58 | Mikk | Depends :P |
| 23:28.07 | Ominous | what a good entry level gfx card for ~£40-60 |
| 23:28.14 | Mikk | What do you want done? |
| 23:28.18 | Trancer | Mikk: they messed up an external |
| 23:28.23 | Mikk | Oh, that I can fix |
| 23:28.25 | Trancer | DewdropLib should be in OptionalDeps |
| 23:28.31 | Trancer | it's not being downloaded atm |
| 23:28.40 | Trancer | and it's needed for FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
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| 23:31.07 | Mikk | Er, shit, it's not listing anything at all as optionaldeps |
| 23:31.21 | Trancer | it's pulling down most of the stuff though |
| 23:31.23 | Trancer | due to x-embeds |
| 23:31.28 | Trancer | just not dewdroplib |
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| 23:31.36 | Mikk | DewdropLib is in the embeds though |
| 23:31.41 | Trancer | yeah, which is strange |
| 23:31.44 | Mikk | It's just not being loaded in time then? |
| 23:31.50 | Trancer | no |
| 23:31.57 | Trancer | if I pull down Prat with WAU WITH externals |
| 23:32.02 | Trancer | DewdropLib isn't pulled down |
| 23:32.04 | Trancer | so it's not loaded |
| 23:32.08 | Mikk | Aeuhhh |
| 23:32.14 | BankZ | Whats the problem with using WITH Externals ? |
| 23:32.25 | Trancer | and it errors |
| 23:32.32 | BankZ | it seems like things are fubared |
| 23:32.36 | Trancer | less efficient BankZ |
| 23:32.45 | Mikk | Actually, I don't dare touch Prat's toc, I just realized. Sylvanaar is playing around with his damn LoadManager:Ace2 doowinkle and it has all manner of wonkey side effects |
| 23:32.55 | Trancer | hehe |
| 23:32.58 | Mikk | You want Sylv for this one |
| 23:32.59 | BankZ | Trancer: just more bandwith? |
| 23:33.03 | Trancer | will prod sylvanaar when he's about |
| 23:33.06 | Trancer | no BankZ |
| 23:33.09 | Trancer | cpu time |
| 23:33.12 | Mikk | It's loading time that matters |
| 23:33.16 | Mikk | Game load that is |
| 23:33.32 | Mikk | Running dozens/hundreds of Ace addons with libs embedded means you load slower |
| 23:33.42 | Mikk | Since all the libs get loaded (and then discarded) |
| 23:33.43 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41594 10AddonLoader/ (AddonLoader-enUS.lua AddonLoader.lua Conditions.lua): |
| 23:33.43 | CIA-22 | AddonLoader: |
| 23:33.43 | CIA-22 | - added X-LoadOn-Instance for PvE instances, |
| 23:33.43 | CIA-22 | - use 'X-LoadOn-Always: delayed' to queue addon for delayed loading. Once the initial loading is done, every queued addon will be load one at a time, every one second. |
| 23:34.17 | BankZ | so, I want Autodownload Depends, and uncheck WITH EXTERNALS? |
| 23:34.36 | Trancer | you want whatever you like |
| 23:34.44 | Trancer | without externals gives you 123213 addons on your addons screen |
| 23:34.45 | Mikk | BankZ: That sounds good yes |
| 23:34.47 | Trancer | which is annoying |
| 23:34.48 | kergoth | Mikk, out of curiosity, why would an addon not want to load delayed? |
| 23:35.06 | Adirelle | Antiarc: er... I still have that weird thing with window pos |
| 23:35.09 | Trancer | (looking at practical aspect) |
| 23:35.11 | Mikk | kergoth: feck knows, but i'd hate to have a spec that doesn't allow it |
| 23:35.14 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 23:35.22 | Arrowmaster | without externals is better as far as profiling is concerned if your wanting somewhat accurate memory usage info |
| 23:35.24 | BankZ | so, its just about game load, but doesnt affect once its loaded? |
| 23:35.34 | Adirelle | Antiarc: still reseting |
| 23:35.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:35.54 | Mikk | BankZ: Correct |
| 23:36.01 | kergoth | Mikk, can i specify delayed via an override atm? or does it have to be toc? |
| 23:36.01 | Trancer | Antiarc: just poked Mikk about this |
| 23:36.09 | Trancer | the widget for the warning threshold is 'broken' |
| 23:36.18 | Trancer | only 4 digits fit in |
| 23:36.18 | Antiarc | how so? |
| 23:36.20 | Thrae | hmm |
| 23:36.29 | Trancer | if the slider goes above 100% it shows 01.12% instead of 101.12% |
| 23:36.36 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 23:36.37 | Mikk | kergoth: the damn override interface doesn't take arguments atm |
| 23:36.37 | Antiarc | Right |
| 23:36.43 | BankZ | if I uninstall an addon, does it clean things up right? |
| 23:36.45 | kergoth | figured |
| 23:36.47 | BankZ | I test a lot of stuff |
| 23:36.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:36.51 | Trancer | also the default is based on melee |
| 23:36.55 | Ominous | whats the advantage of directx10 over 9? |
| 23:36.59 | Shirik | BankZ: Define "clean things up" |
| 23:37.05 | Trancer | Antiarc: would be nice if the default goes to 120% for ranged dps |
| 23:37.07 | Shirik | Ominous: It has a crapton of new APIs |
| 23:37.10 | BankZ | Shirik: remove things I dont need |
| 23:37.17 | Shirik | BankZ: like saved variables? no |
| 23:37.17 | Mikk | Ominous: dx10 means more money in microsoft's pockets since it'll only load under vista |
| 23:37.28 | BankZ | no, I mean Libs |
| 23:37.29 | Shirik | DX10 is hawt though |
| 23:37.30 | Shirik | seriously |
| 23:37.39 | Shirik | and you can use the REF device to make it work under non-vista platforms :) |
| 23:37.48 | Shirik | it would be somewhere on the order of 0.25 fps though |
| 23:38.01 | Shirik | BankZ: Disabling an addon disables its TOC |
| 23:38.06 | Shirik | where is where the libs are specified |
| 23:38.07 | Shirik | so yes |
| 23:38.34 | BankZ | Message: ..\AddOns\Surfaces\Surfaces.lua line 1: Cannot find a library instance of Surface-1.0. |
| 23:38.39 | Mikk | Shirik: yeah but what are the chances that the new stuff in dx10 can't be implemented under xp as well? really? |
| 23:38.40 | Shirik | I've used the referential rasterizer, though, to check out some really cool things in DX10 |
| 23:38.44 | Adirelle | having both littlewig and bigwigs load managed is goot |
| 23:38.45 | Shirik | it has some awesome effects |
| 23:38.46 | BankZ | it seems like hings are broken |
| 23:38.57 | Trancer | Antiarc: also the warning feature is VERY annoying on bosses such as Void Reaver |
| 23:39.02 | Shirik | Mikk: The only thing I can think of is that some of the APIs use 64-bit calculations |
| 23:39.10 | Chompers | Antiarc: weird thing happened today, the font you use for cowtip appeared in my font list |
| 23:39.12 | Shirik | well, I guess you can't guarantee that on vista either |
| 23:39.12 | Shirik | hm |
| 23:39.14 | Shirik | dunno then ^^ |
| 23:39.26 | Mikk | nop, it's purely a marketing decision |
| 23:39.26 | BankZ | It doesnt seem like WITHOUT is working |
| 23:39.39 | BankZ | so, gonna try and see if I can get WITH to work |
| 23:39.49 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41595 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes some issues where a pet is found but can't determine its owner |
| 23:39.51 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Once again...the default for TinyTip is CURSOR for MAnchor. You just leave the value nil. I added a comment line just for users like you ;) |
| 23:39.52 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r93 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Added yet another comment line for Gnarfoz. You see, you must give nil to let TinyTip use its default. |
| 23:40.05 | Mikk | BankZ: Do you enable StandAloneLibraries when you try WITHOUT |
| 23:40.31 | Chompers | have you made any recent changes your cow tip Antiarc? |
| 23:40.34 | Gnarfoz | yeah, err, why does it break when I set it to what it's already set to? oO |
| 23:40.39 | Antiarc | Chompers: No, not really |
| 23:40.41 | BankZ | Mikk: I didnt disable them, I guess I could go check |
| 23:40.57 | Mikk | There's a fake "addon" in the list called StandAloneLibraries |
| 23:41.45 | Trancer | Antiarc: is it possible for Omen to have some current target memory? |
| 23:42.07 | BankZ | Mikk: that should be disabled? |
| 23:42.17 | Trancer | Antiarc: the warning is based on the threat of the current person targeted by the mob, correct? |
| 23:42.18 | Antiarc | Trancer: What do you mean? |
| 23:42.24 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 23:42.31 | Ominous | nvidia 7600gs 512mb V 8600gt 256mb? |
| 23:42.39 | Trancer | void reaver with his secondary orbs flying out generates in a huge warning spam |
| 23:42.58 | Chompers | while you're here Antiarc, do you think Threat-1.0 will ever be able to differentiate between two identically named mobs? |
| 23:43.06 | Roartindon | Chompers: No |
| 23:43.12 | Antiarc | No. |
| 23:43.16 | Antiarc | Not unless Blizzard changes thing |
| 23:43.18 | Antiarc | things* |
| 23:43.22 | Aenslaed | not until blizz changes naming on mobs |
| 23:43.23 | BankZ | Mikk: I dont see StandAloneLibraries |
| 23:43.32 | Trancer | Antiarc: it'll be hard to fix it though |
| 23:43.47 | Trancer | unless you make it boss dependant |
| 23:44.00 | Adirelle | who's working on ACP ? |
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| 23:44.24 | Adirelle | Antiarc: I confirm : widget position is lost if you disable the addon |
| 23:44.32 | Adirelle | s/is lost/is still lost/ |
| 23:44.36 | Thrae | Antiarc: You could theoretically also store the level, health percentage, and target (if applicable). |
| 23:44.39 | BankZ | damn, all my addons are screwed |
| 23:44.40 | BankZ | Message: ..\AddOns\Surfaces\Surfaces.lua line 1: Cannot find a library instance of Surface-1.0. |
| 23:44.51 | BankZ | Message: ..\AddOns\TinyTipExtras\TinyTipExtras.lua line 22: Cannot find a library instance of TipLib-1.0. |
| 23:44.58 | Trancer | Thrae: hmm.. can tinytip show threat in tooltip? |
| 23:45.05 | Antiarc | Thrae: Not really. You can cause threat on mobs that aren't targeted. |
| 23:45.07 | Roartindon | BankZ: Why don't you go and download Surface and TipLib then |
| 23:45.30 | Adirelle | Antiarc: would mind if I save anchor offsets in the db ? |
| 23:45.43 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Already in my next commit |
| 23:45.46 | Thrae | Trancer: No, that'll be in a separate module |
| 23:46.03 | Trancer | k Thrae, that would be quite useful, saves you targetting |
| 23:46.07 | Adirelle | Antiarc: k |
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| 23:46.08 | Adirelle | well, I guess I'll really play now |
| 23:46.13 | Hjalte | ckknight, is Cowtip going to skin the blizzard itemcompare frames in the future? |
| 23:46.14 | Thrae | Trancer: If there is an addon that already adds it to the tooltip, it won't conflict (except CowTip) |
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| 23:48.02 | Trancer | hmhm |
| 23:48.28 | BankZ | never had to before |
| 23:48.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Bah. |
| 23:48.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Someone familiar with dogtag tags help me quickly with a tiny thing? |
| 23:49.16 | Ominous | is http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inno3D-Geforce-8600GT-1400MHz-Graphics/dp/tech-data/B000Q2OIHI/ any good? |
| 23:49.19 | AnduinLothar | on the other hand.... not having my $ visible due to baggins might help me not spend it so fast... |
| 23:49.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I want player frame name to show my name - raid group |
| 23:50.08 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: [name] - [raidgroup] doesn't work? |
| 23:50.10 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: so...RaidGroup? |
| 23:50.35 | Andune | ominous: I just bought a PNY version of almost the exact same specs |
| 23:51.09 | Andune | can't speak for Inno3D products, never tried 'em. PNY has been good to me. But then, that one is listed at $80, I paid almost twice that for mine :P |
| 23:51.17 | ZealotOnAStick | That does work, thank you. |
| 23:51.33 | Ominous | what differences do the make eg inno actually make? |
| 23:51.59 | Andune | man WAU is getting updates almost as often as the mods themselves are these days.. |
| 23:52.02 | durcyn | not much. most just churn out reference designs |
| 23:52.46 | Andune | ominous: well I've always heard not much. I bought an XFX for my last card, and it's the only graphics card I've ever had go bad on me. |
| 23:53.26 | Andune | different manufactors also might overclock differently. I think the XFX I had bought was overclocked, and that affected it's reliability. |
| 23:54.50 | Andune | Anyway I've had great luck with PNY, so I went back to 'em. Probably just a vendor religous debate. Seagate vs. Maxtor vs. WD... |
| 23:56.08 | AnduinLothar | How do I set AND NOT rules for Baggins categories? |
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| 23:56.29 | hyperChipmunk | I think it's just NOT |
| 23:57.00 | Peoii | Ominous: [2007/06/24 16:42:02-175-x1]: ClassTimer-1.0 r41574\ClassTimer.lua:194: attempt to call method 'CreateTimers' (a nil value) |
| 23:57.24 | Ominous | Peoii: odd, i didnt get that |
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