00:00.17 | Kaelten | the X-Category field is having some... inconsistent results. |
00:00.24 | Kaelten | er values |
00:00.44 | abyssichate | ckknight: is there a way to colour the health tag (using DogTag) according to the range the current health percentage is into? Like, [100,80]->green, [80-60]->light green, [60-40]->yellow and so on? |
00:00.47 | ckknight | Kaelten: k... |
00:00.49 | Kaelten | and that bad data is effecting us both in game in places and in wau2 |
00:00.59 | ckknight | abyssichate: HPColor, I believe |
00:00.59 | vhaarr | Kaelten: Fix them all. |
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00:01.03 | Cryect | ingame? |
00:01.16 | Kaelten | Cryect: some addons read that field for things |
00:01.22 | Kaelten | including Ace2 |
00:01.26 | Cryect | Oh didn't know anything actually read it besides the wiki |
00:01.34 | abyssichate | ckknight: thanks |
00:01.45 | Kaelten | vhaarr: I've thought about it but that doesn't provide a long term fix |
00:01.47 | Cryect | I understand WAU2 of course |
00:01.52 | ckknight | Cryect: FuBar reads it too |
00:01.57 | vhaarr | Kaelten: Pre-commit hook. |
00:02.12 | Cryect | just catergorize unknowns as unknown? |
00:02.14 | Kaelten | vhaarr: does a pre-commit hook see the contents of the files being committed though? |
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00:02.22 | Cryect | Pfft like I use Fubra :-p |
00:02.25 | Ominous__ | ck/run SetRaidTarget("target", 8) |
00:02.27 | Ominous__ | oops |
00:02.34 | ckknight | ? |
00:02.34 | vhaarr | Kaelten: I don't know |
00:02.42 | Kaelten | me either :s |
00:02.46 | Ominous__ | ckknight: if you said anythinh after i said bottom of tooltip then i didnt see it |
00:03.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41335 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix casing of dogtags on set. |
00:03.31 | ckknight | bottom of tooltip? |
00:03.36 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r41336 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Fixing erroneous code in GetTooltip(). |
00:03.48 | Ominous | ill ss it if i can persuade my group member to dc |
00:04.12 | ckknight | k. |
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00:04.43 | ckknight | Ominous: I know the issue :-P |
00:05.08 | Ominous | =P |
00:05.15 | abyssichate | I didn't think that using dogtag would be that easy :E |
00:05.16 | abyssichate | it rocks |
00:05.26 | ckknight | Ominous: I think... |
00:05.31 | ckknight | Ominous: it says "Offline"? |
00:05.34 | Ominous | yea |
00:05.44 | Kaelten | looks like using svnlook it might be possible |
00:05.53 | Adirelle | raaaaaaaaaaah, ora2's doomed again |
00:06.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41337 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - [Zone] should not return "Offline" |
00:06.39 | ckknight | Ominous: there we go |
00:06.50 | Ominous | ckknight: ah /cheer |
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00:08.20 | Kaelten | hrm |
00:10.14 | Adirelle | wtf... why do only oRA2 and Postal have trouble with AceModuleCore-2.0... |
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00:10.35 | Kaelten | Mikk: ping? |
00:10.44 | Kaelten | Adirelle: ? |
00:11.15 | Adirelle | Kaelten: I've got very strange behavior with Postal, oRA2 and AceModuleCore-2.0 (all from SVN) |
00:11.23 | Kaelten | ? |
00:11.27 | Adirelle | Kaelten: depending on the order of the mixins, it works, or not :/ |
00:11.34 | Kaelten | ok.... |
00:11.36 | Kaelten | ? |
00:11.50 | ckknight | I still believe that you have some freaky old version somewhere |
00:11.52 | ckknight | *shrug* |
00:11.53 | ckknight | I dunno |
00:12.10 | Kaelten | lol |
00:12.16 | Adirelle | just "finded" my interface to clear up remaning libs |
00:12.20 | Adirelle | didn't found any |
00:12.35 | Kaelten | Adirelle: I suggest running the app by itself to make sure its not any sort of conflict |
00:13.22 | mjc | heh |
00:13.22 | Kaelten | other than that whats the magic combination |
00:13.22 | Adirelle | ? |
00:13.22 | mjc | ckknight: I think it's kind of funny how you end up writing replacements for stuff whenever someone moves something off the svn |
00:13.29 | mjc | ckknight: and then it ends up raping the other person's code in the eye |
00:13.40 | JoshBorke | suggestion for any mod using different textures: give examples of the textures on the selector, for the love of god |
00:13.40 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
00:13.44 | ckknight | rape? |
00:13.49 | mjc | eg cowtip... my reaction was "why did I ever use tinytip?!" |
00:13.56 | ckknight | ah |
00:14.05 | durcyn | because tinytip actually doesn't suck |
00:14.10 | Kaelten | cowtip? |
00:14.14 | Gngsk | oooooh, burn! |
00:14.14 | ckknight | CowTip is meant to be simple, powerful, and configurable |
00:14.15 | mjc | cowtip sucks much, much less |
00:14.16 | ckknight | and nothing else. |
00:14.27 | Kaelten | I miss tipstert |
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00:14.29 | ckknight | I don't plan to bloat it ad nauseum |
00:14.30 | Kaelten | er tipster |
00:14.49 | ckknight | well, waiting for AB |
00:14.57 | ckknight | guess I can work on hostility/status coloring. |
00:15.01 | ag` | mjc, what moved off the SVN? |
00:15.17 | vhaarr | TinyTip |
00:15.18 | ckknight | TinyTip, but it was moved back |
00:15.23 | Adirelle | Antiarc: your "isgroupofficer" fix is ok |
00:15.29 | ckknight | granted, it's an out of date version and all |
00:15.36 | vhaarr | development stopped on the wowace SVN, though, and is continuing on gcode |
00:15.48 | vhaarr | I don't get it. |
00:15.51 | ag` | reasoning? |
00:16.04 | vhaarr | "I don't like $rand person, I'll move off the SVN" |
00:16.20 | trh_ | does the character selection frame has a .lua file? |
00:16.22 | ag` | Come on, how can *addons* be so drama |
00:16.22 | ckknight | "I want to suck $rand's cock, I'll move off the SVN" |
00:16.28 | ckknight | :-P, vhaarr |
00:16.31 | vhaarr | :P |
00:16.34 | winkiller | lol ag` |
00:16.34 | JoshBorke | seriously? wtf is that all about? |
00:16.51 | Kaelten | all people have to do is email me and I'll lock their project down |
00:16.52 | JoshBorke | why does it matter now when Thrae does it? |
00:16.53 | ckknight | I'm just joking around with vhaarr |
00:17.04 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: Why the fuck do you care? |
00:17.39 | ag` | I've always hated how people moved stuff away from the SVN because of drama. No matter who did it. |
00:18.05 | JoshBorke | because i don't understand why thrae is being singled out. other people have taken their mods off the svn before. some have been harassed some haven't. it all depends on the popularity of the mod it seems. |
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00:18.14 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: I'm not singling out anyone. |
00:18.42 | vhaarr | Thrae is a good coder, and I remember when he started making TT, he was very helpful when I reported bugs and suggested features. |
00:18.51 | hyperChipmunk | the problem with thrae was he nuked the one without having a working version on the other |
00:19.41 | Kaelten | kergoth: you around? |
00:19.59 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I reverted that. I don't see what else I can do. |
00:20.04 | ckknight | I'd like to let people know that I didn't make CowTip to spite Thrae. I did it because I was growing tired of working on PitBull constantly and felt a new small project would be worthwhile. Someone suggested a tooltip mod, and I went for it. |
00:20.06 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: he nuked a development copy while the released version was still available. the copy he released on wowi is the same copy he deleted on the SVN, is it not? |
00:20.20 | JoshBorke | thrae: you stay out of this :-P |
00:20.26 | winkiller | lol |
00:20.42 | Kaelten | Mikk: you around? |
00:20.51 | hyperChipmunk | the point was that you caused a hiccup |
00:21.07 | winkiller | a disturbance in the force |
00:21.10 | JoshBorke | i don't understand how he caused a hiccup though, i hink it was entirely thrown out of proportion |
00:21.12 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
00:21.38 | hyperChipmunk | with praid, i didn't even know it moved |
00:21.39 | JoshBorke | everyone screamed bloody murder without realizing that the version deleted was the same one available at wowi, _for the past 5 months_ |
00:21.41 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: How is that different from anyone just breaking their own addon? |
00:21.58 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: WoWI is irrelevant. |
00:21.58 | hyperChipmunk | because that doesn't give svn errors |
00:22.02 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: There is only WAU. |
00:22.11 | Kaelten | ~lart vhaarr |
00:22.11 | purl | farts in vhaarr's general direction |
00:22.15 | Kaelten | lol |
00:22.17 | ckknight | lol |
00:22.21 | ckknight | fart |
00:22.22 | JoshBorke | lol |
00:22.41 | Kaelten | purl is an interesting creature |
00:22.44 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I deleted the directory only -after- I decided to re-upload the OLD version. It was deleted for about...oh, 30 minutes. |
00:22.44 | Kaelten | anywho |
00:22.45 | JoshBorke | wtf, i'm getting an error with the current version of pitbull |
00:22.55 | Kaelten | ~cheer JoshBorke |
00:22.56 | purl | ACTION cheers JoshBorke on |
00:23.01 | JoshBorke | thrae: i'm of the opinion that it could have just stayed off the SVN |
00:23.02 | ckknight | JoshBorke: what is it? |
00:23.06 | winkiller | now that I think of it, I replaced 90% of addons with ace ones. SPOF |
00:23.09 | hyperChipmunk | oh, plus that stub addon was pretty annoying |
00:23.10 | Adirelle | got something to review on ThreatLib, seems I'll have to wait Antiarc get home |
00:23.11 | JoshBorke | ckknight: logging back in to double check |
00:23.15 | ckknight | k |
00:23.23 | JoshBorke | thrae: i'm of the opinion that it should have been deleted outright |
00:23.24 | Kaelten | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
00:23.24 | purl | pushes the wall down onto hyperChipmunk whilst whistling innocently |
00:23.29 | JoshBorke | thrae: no stub, nothing |
00:23.56 | Kaelten | thrae: I'm of the opinion that people are crazy and you'll never figure them out |
00:23.57 | JoshBorke | ~lart kaelten |
00:23.57 | purl | rm -rf's kaelten |
00:24.00 | ckknight | Kaelten: I believe you're crazy, and I just can't figure you out. |
00:24.19 | winkiller | In my opinion it's too late for serious talk |
00:24.22 | Kaelten | ckknight: yes I probably am, and if you ever do let me know |
00:24.32 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: can your wife? |
00:24.34 | Kaelten | serious? |
00:24.41 | ckknight | AB time! |
00:24.44 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: explain me? no |
00:24.59 | Kaelten | my daughter can though |
00:25.04 | Kaelten | "He's my daddy" |
00:25.33 | ckknight | lol |
00:25.34 | ckknight | cute |
00:25.44 | Kaelten | she tries :s |
00:25.57 | JoshBorke | ckknight: when trying to put my target debuffs in a non shitty location: http://ace.pastey.net/62097 |
00:26.04 | JoshBorke | lol |
00:26.08 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: figure you out i mean |
00:26.14 | Kaelten | Kaelten: nope |
00:26.24 | JoshBorke | talking to yourself now i see |
00:26.33 | Ominous | =D |
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00:27.09 | Flexom | ckknight: portrait gives errors too:) |
00:27.12 | JoshBorke | is it too much to ask for my debuffs to start in the topright corner and go left and my buffs to start in the topleft corner and go right? i mean geebus |
00:27.22 | ckknight | what error, Flexom? |
00:28.19 | Flexom | Error: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
00:28.19 | Flexom | File: Interface\AddOns\PitBull\PitBull.lua |
00:28.19 | Flexom | Line: 1504 |
00:28.19 | Flexom | Count: 1 |
00:28.26 | ckknight | you are one angry dude, JoshBorke |
00:28.40 | AnduinLothar | yes josh. that is too much to ask |
00:28.44 | ckknight | Flexom: do you have a debugstack? |
00:29.04 | Flexom | nope, can get it if you want:) |
00:29.15 | AnduinLothar | It registers a 6 of my Super Picky User scale |
00:29.18 | AnduinLothar | on* |
00:29.35 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i know, i'm just hoping i can get this to work in the current version of pitbull WITHOUT having to modify any source code for once |
00:29.40 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i'm doubting it'll be the case |
00:29.50 | AnduinLothar | and an 8 on the Features No One Else Wants And You Should Code Yourself scale |
00:30.03 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: shut up and heal :-P |
00:30.10 | AnduinLothar | no, i'm ret spec |
00:30.14 | clad|afk | you would be |
00:30.18 | ag` | gkick |
00:30.22 | JoshBorke | gkick imo |
00:30.26 | JoshBorke | you should just delete in shame :-P |
00:30.46 | AnduinLothar | i was actually holy for 2 years with only breif spurts into prot, but then they buffed ret |
00:30.49 | Adirelle | that's a conflit :( |
00:30.59 | Adirelle | gotta activate each addon one at a time |
00:31.09 | AnduinLothar | plus my guild has a surplus of pallies, and i think only 2 of them are holy |
00:31.17 | JoshBorke | [Ammo]: <3 snap to center |
00:31.21 | RogueShadow | AnduinLothar is my hero! |
00:31.24 | AnduinLothar | but us oldies are over geared for kz |
00:31.41 | JoshBorke | wait, i mean nymbia: <3 snap to center |
00:31.42 | AnduinLothar | so i dps in kz and pick up mail and leather dps gear no one needs |
00:31.53 | nymbia | JoshBorke: :) |
00:31.56 | AnduinLothar | and then duel the warriors for the arms gear |
00:32.00 | ckknight | JoshBorke: I'm going to be serious for a second. Your presence is bringing me down, i.e. "You're harshing my mellow, man" |
00:32.03 | RogueShadow | and my pally is ret also |
00:32.13 | JoshBorke | nymbia: idea for when buttons are not locked, put a friggin label on them :-D |
00:32.29 | JoshBorke | ckknight: sorry, i don't know how to be less of an ass |
00:32.43 | RogueShadow | I used to play the same game as alexanderyoshi before he played wow. |
00:32.46 | AnduinLothar | step 1: remove stick from ass |
00:32.55 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: will you help? ;-) |
00:33.06 | AnduinLothar | yes, i have the jaws of life around here somewhere |
00:33.17 | JoshBorke | i think it might need to be bigger |
00:33.30 | AnduinLothar | the hole or your ass? |
00:33.42 | JoshBorke | the jaws of life |
00:34.35 | Adirelle | I'm gonna get crazy... disabled all addons, enabled the all again, no more error :/ |
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00:37.40 | symian | Hi. I'm writing a really bare-bones FuBar add-on, to allow quick switching of languages. |
00:37.45 | symian | This is my first go at a FuBar addon. |
00:38.01 | symian | I was wondering: could someone explain to me how Tablet works, in conjunction with FuBar? |
00:38.18 | symian | Every FuBar addon I can find merely creates a tablet object, then adds categories to it. |
00:38.22 | Ominous | has something changeed with dewdrop text, and passValue hadnline with a validation table |
00:38.25 | JoshBorke | ckknight: you said you were going to be serious? |
00:38.26 | symian | They never actually seem to *attach* the tablet to something. |
00:38.34 | JoshBorke | ~blame mikk |
00:38.35 | purl | ACTION blames mikk (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
00:39.15 | Antiarc | Evening all |
00:39.51 | JoshBorke | hola antiarc |
00:40.02 | Antiarc | How's it going, JoshBorke? |
00:40.03 | JoshBorke | MikkZzz: how convenient ;-P |
00:40.17 | ckknight | JoshBorke: stop trolling |
00:40.19 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: not too shabby. AnduinLothar keeps telling me to remove the stick from my ass but won't help |
00:40.28 | Gngsk | anyone have a setup for trinketmenu profiles/autoqueue enable/disable based on in/out battlegrounds? |
00:40.32 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i thought you were gonna help with my pitbull error :_( |
00:40.40 | ckknight | I'm in AB |
00:40.46 | ckknight | and you were acting like an ass |
00:40.54 | ckknight | so guess where my prioritized ended up |
00:40.58 | Antiarc | ckknight: Latest version of CowTip has a fully transparent background |
00:41.21 | ckknight | Antiarc: that's customizeable |
00:41.28 | JoshBorke | i don't really understand how i was being an ass except by expressing my opinion about the whole tinytip situation, outside of that i thought i was customizable, but whatever |
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00:41.50 | ckknight | no, I was just referring to your PitBull comments |
00:42.32 | JoshBorke | ckknight: that had nothing to do with pitbull, it was just in general |
00:42.39 | JoshBorke | i've never found an addon that could do that |
00:42.46 | ag` | do what |
00:42.58 | JoshBorke | ag`: well, maybe aguf did... |
00:43.04 | ag` | let me scroll up |
00:43.12 | Adirelle | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/62090 |
00:43.12 | JoshBorke | ag`: debuffs topright growing left, buffs topleft growing right |
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00:43.35 | ag` | topright of the unit frame? |
00:43.40 | JoshBorke | ag`: yes |
00:44.01 | Chompers | its probably a bad thing if our premade AB game lost to a random group right? |
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00:44.11 | ag` | JoshBorke, that's what they do |
00:44.13 | Chompers | what if we lost 4 times in a row :/ |
00:44.52 | JoshBorke | Chompers: yes, bad |
00:46.00 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41338 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Can now remove/add the buttons on the main window title bar in config |
00:46.45 | Adirelle | I'm off |
00:46.47 | Adirelle | night |
00:47.14 | Ominous | ok someone has broken passValue with type = text and validate = table in dewdrop as non of those work for me atm but whn i remove the table it works |
00:47.30 | JoshBorke | ~blame MikkZzz |
00:47.31 | purl | ACTION blames MikkZzz (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
00:48.31 | Garoun | Antiarc, any plans to provide a hook to SCT from Omen? |
00:48.47 | Cryect | why? |
00:48.59 | Cryect | someone could add threat to SCT instead |
00:49.01 | sylvanaar | anyone good with textures? i need some help with my pitbull plugin |
00:49.02 | Garoun | g/f sitting behind me asked |
00:49.03 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r70 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed "Rare Elite" bug. Also removed most of the excess formating code that was rarely used -- this'll come back in a separate module. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
00:49.03 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r71 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Drycode of new TinyTip logic -- now it'll clear and remake the tooltip. Also, the border is 50% brighter. |
00:49.03 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r72 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed bug in line 237 |
00:49.05 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r73 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed level line bug. |
00:49.07 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r74 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed ?? level bug. Fixed colouring for lines after the level line (they are now the default colour). Fixed problem when SetDefaultAnchor may be called by a stupid addon. |
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00:49.11 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r75 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Forgot GameTooltip doesn't actually clear lines, it just hides them. Fixed. |
00:49.14 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r76 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed bug |
00:49.16 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r77 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Removed GetUnit() call in SetDefaultAnchor, as it doesn't seem to be usable. Also fixed extraneous space in level line. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
00:49.17 | Cryect | damn Thrae |
00:49.20 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r78 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Internal revert to fix bug |
00:49.24 | ckknight | spamz |
00:49.36 | Cryect | I guess thats all the commits thrae did earlier? |
00:49.36 | Thrae | Not my fault! Not my fault! |
00:49.40 | Cryect | sure!!! |
00:49.47 | JoshBorke | geebus thrae |
00:49.48 | JoshBorke | wtf |
00:49.51 | Thrae | I can't control if CIA-22 is buggy =/ |
00:49.53 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r79 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: line / lines error fixed. |
00:49.53 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r80 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua localization/TinyTipLocale.lua): TinyTip: When the creature type or creature class is unavailable, it will now add "Unknown" instead of just skipping it. |
00:49.53 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r81 10/ (trunk/PerfectAssist branches/PerfectAssist): PerfectAssist: Saved for posterity, unstable |
00:49.54 | Cryect | Thrae has bene busy! |
00:49.59 | Chompers | after CowTip, where next ckknight? |
00:50.15 | Cryect | Scrolling Combat Tags! |
00:50.16 | ckknight | Chompers: well, I wanted to make a generic Damage/Healing/DPS library thing |
00:50.17 | Chompers | SCT style addon perhaps? |
00:50.23 | Chompers | aaah, cool |
00:50.45 | ckknight | the general idea of things is to make a whole bunch of libraries so that making actual mods takes little to no time at all |
00:50.49 | ckknight | e.g. CowTip |
00:50.52 | ckknight | I slapped that together |
00:50.55 | ckknight | and it's workable |
00:50.58 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41339 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: |
00:50.58 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
00:50.58 | CIA-22 | - Added Broadcast KLHThreatMeter Data option |
00:51.00 | Cryect | In otherwords if you wanted you could create an addon in a macro |
00:51.19 | Ominous | mikk:ping |
00:51.35 | Ominous | ah he sleeps |
00:52.03 | Cryect | If you really wanted to do that ckknight, you would make a good GUI creation library |
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00:52.25 | ckknight | Cryect: Dewdrop/Tablet? |
00:52.28 | Cryect | thats where definately most my time now a days gets spent is always on the GUI, the backend is fast in comparison (then again I made a bunch of functions to make that stuff easy) |
00:52.34 | ckknight | Cryect: I'm also not good at generic GUIs, |
00:52.49 | ckknight | since everything is so different from each other |
00:52.54 | Cryect | Yeah |
00:52.54 | Hotphoenix | would be nice to have unified guis for all these mods if not just in looks |
00:53.01 | sylvanaar | actually, i might look at cowtip it might have the code i need |
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00:53.30 | AnduinLothar | someone say gui? |
00:53.43 | AnduinLothar | in the ace channel? |
00:53.48 | AnduinLothar | zomg |
00:53.52 | Cryect | I use dewdrop since thats defiantely easier for dropdowns and tablet doesn't really aid much in tooltips |
00:53.56 | hyperChipmunk | guis are for sissies |
00:54.06 | Cryect | Tooltips is easy stuff |
00:54.12 | clad|afk | ~emulate saien |
00:54.12 | purl | Slash commands are ameturish. |
00:54.18 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
00:54.22 | JoshBorke | oh hey! i got my buffs the way i want it! |
00:54.25 | Cryect | haha :) |
00:54.26 | AnduinLothar | dont use gui and.... optimized in the same sentance. the channel might axplode |
00:54.38 | ckknight | kersplode, AnduinLothar |
00:54.53 | AnduinLothar | i used periodsss! |
00:54.57 | Hotphoenix | even worse don't mention gui, optimised and microsoft together |
00:55.07 | AnduinLothar | just dotn mention microsoft |
00:55.10 | Chompers | + Kenco |
00:55.26 | Cryect | can we have Kenco rewrite AceEvent |
00:55.33 | Cryect | needs to poll for events |
00:55.42 | Chompers | +cosmos |
00:55.51 | AnduinLothar | lol |
00:55.52 | Cryect | Heh cosmos my first addons back in beta :-p |
00:56.08 | Antiarc | ckknight: I can't get a non-transparent background on CowTip :/ |
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00:56.41 | AnduinLothar | so you want a gui library... but cosmos is evil... hmmm |
00:56.50 | AnduinLothar | i sense conflict of intrest |
00:57.06 | Antiarc | Honestly, I'm not sure what you'd do with a GUI library, unless it's for something like a flow layout |
00:57.15 | Antiarc | Since we can already do most all of it programmatically |
00:57.21 | Antiarc | I mean, GUI widget libraries, sure |
00:57.29 | Antiarc | Sortable data grid would be nice |
00:58.00 | Cryect | Be nice if I could compress the 4 or 5 commands I call per widget into 1 command or so |
00:58.03 | AnduinLothar | So you want to rewrite Cosmos's Earth in dynamic frames |
00:58.13 | Cryect | I take shortcuts when I can where setting up very similar ones of course |
00:58.52 | Cryect | It just always feels like a lot of code for not much |
00:59.02 | ckknight | Antiarc: choose the solid background? |
00:59.08 | AnduinLothar | that's twhat 'genaric' means |
00:59.12 | JoshBorke | Cryect: show texture examples for recount |
00:59.26 | Antiarc | I get Blizzard Low Health, Blizzard Out of Control, and Blizzard Tabard Background |
00:59.27 | Antiarc | That's it |
00:59.47 | ckknight | Antiarc: oh, update SharedMediaLib |
00:59.54 | Cryect | Show Texture Examples? you mean a tutorial screen? (I'm working on one of those btw have some images on my version for that) |
01:00.06 | Antiarc | Ah, ok |
01:00.06 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: I don't want to make a gui lib. |
01:00.30 | JoshBorke | Cryect: no, when choosing the texture for the bars, make the selections examples of the textures |
01:00.31 | AnduinLothar | was just combinign the other's suggestions |
01:01.00 | Cryect | Oh that yeah I really should have that in like I did for IMBA |
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01:01.15 | AnduinLothar | people complain they don't want to use Khaos cause it isn't embeddable, but a genaric embeddable gui library would be massive.. |
01:01.17 | ckknight | MikkZzz: did you fuck up passValue? |
01:01.19 | Cryect | Almost added it then thought well you nromally have data you can see in the main window |
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01:01.46 | JoshBorke | Cryect: but then you have to select each one to see what it looks like then start the process over |
01:01.47 | Ominous | right, ckknight: in dewdrop if you have text field, with a passValue and a table for validate passValue isnt getting passed into get, also if you have hidden and passValue the passvalue dosent seem to be getting passed into ace console for hidden |
01:02.11 | Cryect | JoshBorke: Oh do you want like 8 bars which you can scroll throw to select? |
01:02.15 | Cryect | through* |
01:02.17 | JoshBorke | Cryect: yes |
01:02.23 | Cryect | Yeah, that would be good |
01:02.38 | JoshBorke | it's one of those things where you might be like, oh why didn't i think of that |
01:02.48 | Cryect | When I redo the config options soon will have that on the Looks page |
01:02.57 | sbu | *vote for scrolling combat text addon thing next* :p |
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01:03.07 | Cryect | I was thinking of something similar for something else |
01:03.23 | ckknight | not nymbia! nymbia's a cheater! |
01:04.02 | Arrowmaster | the X-* toc fields are all localized by the client if theres a X-* and X-*_deDE and the clients local is deDE right? |
01:04.05 | clad|afk | why do you need a scroll combat text "thing" next |
01:04.09 | clad|afk | whats wrong wtih sct? |
01:04.10 | ckknight | right, Arrowmaster |
01:04.22 | ckknight | a few things |
01:04.29 | ckknight | i) author's never in IRC |
01:04.37 | ckknight | b) doesn't get updated often |
01:04.46 | Chompers | didnt everyone say that about aguf? |
01:04.50 | Cryect | 3) well thats not a major issue the first one :-p |
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01:04.53 | ckknight | 3) doesn't have DoT-merging like MSBT |
01:04.54 | clad|afk | didn't realize that you need to be in irc to make a good mod |
01:05.01 | clad|afk | b.) why does it need to be updated it it works? |
01:05.06 | clad|afk | 3.) okay |
01:05.20 | ckknight | iv) we can't fix it, since it's locked |
01:05.26 | clad|afk | i can't say i agree with the first two tho, not that it matters |
01:05.29 | Chompers | selective dot merging :D |
01:05.52 | Arrowmaster | so that should work with AddonLoader and the X-LoadOn-* stuff then, hmm i have the urge to rewrite Ogri'Lazy and make it only load when you actually open the gossip frame at an apexis relic |
01:06.17 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r41340 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: foxed some menus but the validated text options dont work due to library problems |
01:06.23 | ckknight | clad|afk: (b)'s not a big issue with me |
01:06.25 | ckknight | (i) is |
01:06.30 | clad|afk | why? |
01:06.33 | ckknight | and yes, I used different numbering systems on purpose |
01:06.40 | clad|afk | i was aware |
01:06.40 | ckknight | if he's not on IRC, we can't give him input |
01:06.48 | clad|afk | he doesn't want it? |
01:06.51 | clad|afk | that doesn't make his mod bad |
01:06.58 | ckknight | so then why should I use SCT, then? |
01:07.00 | clad|afk | you can give him input on wowinterface like everyone else. |
01:07.09 | ckknight | I've tried to talk to him about things, on WoWI |
01:07.16 | ckknight | they either never happen or he never responds. |
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01:07.22 | clad|afk | okay |
01:07.23 | AnduinLothar | ignoring you |
01:07.29 | clad|afk | so your reasons for not using it are because it doesn't do what you want it to do |
01:07.31 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, clad|afk or ckknight one of you need to change your nick, they're the exact same length and it's confusing my sleep-addled mind! *cries* :P |
01:07.32 | ckknight | he's talked to me, though |
01:07.34 | clad|afk | not using it because he's not in irc is stupid. |
01:07.42 | clad|afk | not using it because its not updated often is also stupid |
01:07.43 | clad|afk | *shrug* |
01:07.58 | ckknight | clad|afk: I said that (b) wasn't a big issue. |
01:08.03 | JoshBorke | clad|afk: i'd say it's more stupid to not use because it's not updated, but that's just me |
01:08.07 | clad|afk | i was just reiterating |
01:08.21 | ckknight | clad|afk: reiterating by putting words in my mouth |
01:08.34 | Cryect | clad|afk: but we need our daily(/hourly) update fix! |
01:08.38 | clad|afk | ... |
01:08.40 | clad|afk | i asked why you didn't use it |
01:08.42 | clad|afk | you said b |
01:08.44 | clad|afk | if you didn't mean it, dont say it |
01:08.44 | Cryect | hehe :) |
01:08.46 | clad|afk | i didn't put anything in your mouth |
01:08.48 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: eh, how often it updates isnt the issue, if it becomes abandonware, then sure. but it's not |
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01:09.06 | ckknight | clad|afk: I said that (b) wasn't a big deal, yet you still brought it up as if it were |
01:09.12 | clad|afk | lol |
01:09.14 | clad|afk | whatever dude.l |
01:09.15 | clad|afk | have fun |
01:10.06 | Arrowmaster | well some stuff like the 'constant' IsFeignDeathed() spam for an entire PTR that would have been a simple backwards compatabile fix but didnt actually get fixed until the patch went live were kinda annoying |
01:10.50 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: which would've likely been solved if we had the ability to fix it ourselves or if he were open and available on IRC |
01:10.59 | Arrowmaster | yup |
01:11.25 | Arrowmaster | whens the last time FuBar broke? |
01:11.26 | JoshBorke | though, in this case fubar is pretty much perfect |
01:11.27 | ckknight | JoshBorke: except that I'm here, any qualms you have can be addressed directly to me. |
01:11.34 | JoshBorke | and sct could still use work :-) |
01:11.46 | clad|afk | fine, that's a reason |
01:11.52 | clad|afk | not the BS they spouted |
01:11.52 | clad|afk | *shrug* |
01:11.57 | clad|afk | thats why i asked. |
01:12.13 | Cryect | trh was complaining there was actually a memory issue with fubar somewhere this morning |
01:12.18 | ckknight | clad|afk: stop trolling, please, I'm growing tired of it. |
01:12.24 | clad|afk | ckknight: lolz. |
01:12.33 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, you both are. |
01:12.37 | JoshBorke | clad|afk: you obviously mean lulz |
01:12.40 | clad|afk | I asked a simple question |
01:12.44 | clad|afk | if you can't deal with that, then whatevs |
01:13.03 | ckknight | and you took it as an opportunity to troll, in my eyes |
01:13.17 | clad|afk | *yawn* |
01:13.18 | clad|afk | are you done? |
01:14.42 | Antiarc | http://i15.tinypic.com/5z28xdv.jpg <3 |
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01:15.04 | Chompers | ooooh! |
01:15.05 | ckknight | ooh, looks pretty nice |
01:15.24 | ckknight | so we all know, I do plan to have the ability to import/export settings, like in PitBull |
01:15.26 | AnduinLothar | Anyone got any idea why Omen's ace option table get functions don't like me and just return nil? |
01:15.38 | Antiarc | AnduinLothar: Which ones? |
01:15.40 | Chompers | ckk, CowTip needs lots of presets for layouts |
01:15.43 | AnduinLothar | all of them |
01:15.48 | AnduinLothar | when called from a diff addon |
01:15.48 | Antiarc | No idea at all. |
01:15.51 | Antiarc | Ooh |
01:15.52 | Antiarc | Um |
01:15.53 | ckknight | Chompers: that's the point of importing/exporting :-P |
01:15.54 | Antiarc | Let's see |
01:15.59 | Antiarc | You're calling via Omen.options? |
01:16.12 | AnduinLothar | using a registry loop |
01:16.18 | sadris | Does anyone know the name of the functions which are used to manipulate the floating chat windows? they have 3 characters in front of them.. FCW_ or FCH_ somethign |
01:16.20 | JoshBorke | ckknight: new bug in pitbull: http://ace.pastey.net/62184 |
01:16.20 | AnduinLothar | so whatever table the registry has.. |
01:16.35 | ckknight | JoshBorke: yea, Dewdrop bug Mikk introduced |
01:17.21 | pb_ee1|sl33p | Quick Question: Why isn't SCL using Parser-3.0? |
01:17.25 | Antiarc | AnduinLothar: It could do it if you're iterating that before Omen's DB loads |
01:17.36 | Antiarc | Since most all the gets return Omen.db.profile.X |
01:17.39 | ckknight | pb_ee1|sl33p: rophy made Parser-1.1 and SCL |
01:17.40 | Antiarc | Also, afk for dinner |
01:18.16 | pb_ee1|sl33p | ckknight: He did not updated it for Parser-3.0? Or are Parser-1.1 and Parser-3.0 completely different? |
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01:18.37 | pb_ee1|sl33p | I feel bad to know that two different libs are doing the same job at the same time when I'm playing... :/ |
01:18.46 | break19 | anyone in here familiar with itemprice the lib/ |
01:18.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41341 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - reverting to r41089, due to bugs with passValue |
01:18.57 | Chompers | pb_ee1|sl33p found another thing not to mention, Parser-1.0/Parser-3.0 |
01:19.07 | Arrowmaster | AnduinLothar: did you get something like [2007/06/22 21:14:31-2030-x2]: Dewdrop-2.0: [nil] Missing "get" directive:<in C code>: in function `error' |
01:19.10 | pb_ee1|sl33p | argh |
01:19.18 | AnduinLothar | nah, no error |
01:19.28 | break19 | I'm currently attempting to add itemprice-1.0 support to my local garbagefu.... its not showing in the list of vendor addons, and not quite sure what I'm missing.. |
01:19.32 | ckknight | pb_ee1|sl33p: two different libs, two different APIs, Parser-3.0 has a compatibility layer to simulate Parser-1.1, so if you remove all Parser-1.1 lua files and use Parser-3.0 instead, it will still work without code changes. |
01:19.56 | ckknight | anyone who's been getting PitBull dewdrop bugs, update to 41341 |
01:19.58 | AnduinLothar | Antiarc|Dinner:lemme verrify results |
01:20.26 | pb_ee1|sl33p | ckknight: Thanks for the info, I'll try this ;) Going to sleep. NOW. |
01:20.27 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de solace |
01:21.23 | Chompers | damn you Antiarc, you've made me start work on a CowTip layout :P |
01:21.36 | Andune | So i'm in Gruuls lair. and XRS shows 24 pple in a 25 man raid. We have 1 shammy, and it's not counting him.. |
01:21.52 | AnduinLothar | alliance? |
01:21.54 | Kirkburn|afk | ckknight, I just tried looking up Cowtip on Google, second page result was an unrelated WoW-EU forum thread about someone called Cowtip >_< WoW gets /everywhere/ |
01:21.55 | Andune | aye. |
01:22.05 | ckknight | lol. |
01:22.10 | Andune | is it really possible it's been broken since 2.0? wow |
01:22.58 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna go to Costco |
01:24.21 | Chompers | ckk, can you add a feature to cowtip for me? |
01:24.30 | ckknight | add it to the wish list |
01:24.32 | AnduinLothar | which driving to costco! |
01:24.37 | AnduinLothar | while* |
01:24.56 | Chompers | when i use the waterfall config menu, can you make the input boxes strech with the window? |
01:25.10 | Chompers | oh right ill add it there |
01:25.20 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: yea, I'm leaving now |
01:25.35 | AnduinLothar | i was just saying you should code the feature on your way |
01:25.59 | AnduinLothar | so that the users dont have to wait for silly thinks like you getting toilet paper |
01:26.25 | AnduinLothar | (cause that's all i ever buy at costco. in very large quantities) |
01:26.42 | JoshBorke | makes sense imo |
01:26.48 | Kaelten | bbiab guys |
01:26.50 | Kaelten | heading home |
01:26.55 | JoshBorke | bb kael |
01:28.23 | AnduinLothar | Antiarc|Dinner: my bad. thx for the help. i figured otu it was my bug |
01:28.44 | AnduinLothar | i was forgot the return from my xpcall closure |
01:28.54 | AnduinLothar | ho'd that was get in there... |
01:28.57 | AnduinLothar | how* |
01:29.23 | AnduinLothar | HA! I win. Omen works with Ace2Khaos now |
01:29.53 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r41342 10AtlasLoot/Core/LootButtons.lua: |
01:29.53 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
01:29.53 | CIA-22 | - v3.01.01 finalised, a couple of tweaks to the Equipcompare code |
01:30.28 | JoshBorke | /golfclap AnduinLothar |
01:31.50 | Arrowmaster | Andune: check the XRS forum thread, i posted instructions for how to get the new classes to show |
01:32.28 | AnduinLothar | ok... now i'm not really a fan of fubar for configurations... but if ever there's something that is a candidate for a drop down list format it's xloot.... it rly needs a fubar module for XLootMonitor and XLootGroup |
01:33.38 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: pester Xuerian :P |
01:33.48 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: whosawhatsit? |
01:33.57 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r41343 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Najentus.lua BlackTemple/Supremus.lua Core.lua): BigWigs: Najentus/Supremus/Core: deDE update |
01:34.00 | Wobin | >< |
01:34.03 | AnduinLothar | wow, what response time |
01:34.10 | Wobin | I can't believe that setting up gtalk on pidgin is so complex=P |
01:34.14 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm magic. |
01:34.15 | Xuerian | I aim to have no lice. |
01:34.16 | Xuerian | er |
01:34.17 | Xuerian | well |
01:34.18 | Xuerian | life too |
01:34.22 | AnduinLothar | rofl |
01:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hah |
01:34.30 | aen` | can anyone help me with a dogtag? |
01:34.32 | Wobin | Being lice free is a noble aim! |
01:34.40 | aen` | im trying to make it so text only shows when mouse is over |
01:34.57 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r41344 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: BlackTemple zone and first two bosses deDE update |
01:35.08 | AnduinLothar | Suggestion: write a fubar gui for XLootMonitor and XLootGroup so i dont have to see the lists on screen all the time |
01:35.31 | AnduinLothar | dont hurt me. i just dled it today >.< |
01:35.40 | Xuerian | lol |
01:35.42 | Xuerian | I don't mind |
01:35.51 | Xuerian | XLoot_Options was on the schedule for 1.0 |
01:36.00 | AnduinLothar | que? |
01:36.08 | Xuerian | A nice usable gui for XLoot* |
01:36.12 | AnduinLothar | oic |
01:36.47 | AnduinLothar | obtw ;) Xloot is configurable in Khaos now :D |
01:37.00 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Yeah, i saw that it was when I just loaded it =). Nice. |
01:37.44 | Kemayo | Wobin: It wasn't all that complicated when I did it. Things change, I guess... |
01:37.53 | Chompers | Antiarc: did you incorporate any 'hiding' feature for mana in your cowtip layout ? |
01:39.10 | Wobin | Kemayo: nah, I mean, if you enter the details then hit "Register" it fails |
01:39.16 | Wobin | But if you hit "Save" it works fine =P |
01:39.55 | Andune | ok no idea if Grid coder is here, but I'll put in the request again: Grid f'in ROCKS! I would SO love it if I could track pets on it as well. |
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01:40.17 | aen` | can anyone help with a dogtag? im trying to make it so text only shows when mouse is over? |
01:40.25 | Andune | I hate getting assigned pets in Raids, 'cuz, aw man, now I gotta monitor some other window to heal 'em.. |
01:40.33 | Roartindon | ~seen mikk |
01:40.57 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 47m 9s ago, saying: 'Flexom: The fix should be downloadable from files.wowace in ~10 minutes'. |
01:40.57 | AnduinLothar | Xuerian: on the other hand there's a lot of fubar polution, so don't replace your whole pretty gui.. |
01:40.57 | Roartindon | Mikk broke Dewdrop in r41042 - it no longer passes passValue to get methods |
01:41.03 | AnduinLothar | cause it IS pretty and I <3 pretty gui |
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01:41.27 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: I'd rather not do a fubar plug, honestly. But that's just my opinion, I might make a small one if/when I get options up. |
01:41.38 | AnduinLothar | no, dont do it for options |
01:41.49 | AnduinLothar | fubar is NOT good at options |
01:42.04 | AnduinLothar | just like a list of the most recent loots or whatever |
01:42.06 | Xuerian | Ahhh |
01:42.10 | Xuerian | Well yeah that |
01:42.20 | rubik | i must have antiarc's secksee cowtip layout |
01:42.33 | Xuerian | wtf is cowtip anyway |
01:42.42 | Wobin | DogTag'able tooltip addon |
01:42.55 | aen` | link me to anti's layout |
01:43.11 | AnduinLothar | ok, so who's the ArkInv author he's next on the list to bug.. |
01:43.17 | hyperChipmunk | it's not secksee if it isn't Moo-textured |
01:43.22 | AnduinLothar | the background keeps overlappign the bag buttons |
01:43.32 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: afaik he doesnt come in irc. |
01:44.08 | AnduinLothar | and i think his latest version has LESS sortable filters... >.< |
01:44.33 | AnduinLothar | like weapons dissapeared and there's no way to sepperate item type |
01:44.52 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: have you tried baggins? its nigh-monolithic to setup, but it can probably do whatever you want. |
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01:45.48 | ag` | I'm using baggins right now, but it seems to use more mem that ark, though I can't point any fingers as I am using embedded |
01:45.51 | AnduinLothar | i have not. but i guess now that Ace2Khaos works i'm nto dependant on evil slash command configs |
01:45.59 | rophy | Baggins rock if it doesn't cost 2.5M disembedded. |
01:46.08 | rophy | it still rock with 2.5M actually. |
01:46.19 | sbu | ark is at ~15M here :o |
01:46.26 | NightHawkTheSane | rophy: mine's significantly less than that. ~1MB memory usage |
01:46.36 | AnduinLothar | meh, I have a super computer, optimized and efficient aren't as important to me as easy to use and featurefull |
01:46.51 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: Baggins has it's own non-cli interface, it's not the best though :P |
01:46.51 | rophy | Memory really isn't a problem if it's CPU friendly. |
01:47.02 | ag` | NightHawkTheSane, rophy, I think it might be the PT3 libs |
01:47.13 | ag` | taking up a lot of mem |
01:47.15 | rophy | I have PT3 disembedded. |
01:47.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: I run disembedded |
01:47.23 | ag` | okay |
01:47.28 | ag` | and it's still 2.5? :( |
01:47.33 | rophy | ya, not sure why. |
01:47.43 | ag` | I've thought about looking into bags |
01:47.54 | rophy | I have 2 profiles though. |
01:48.01 | rophy | I guess normal people only have 1. |
01:48.07 | rophy | so like 1M each profile? |
01:48.09 | AnduinLothar | i was gonan do a bag mod, but then they added the secure templates and it scared me off |
01:48.23 | ag` | how can a profile be 1MB |
01:48.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Eh, I use char profiles all my characters. |
01:48.28 | rophy | i dunno. |
01:48.54 | rophy | the SV file doesn't look like costing 2.5M too. |
01:49.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Might be related to the categories/rules you have set up |
01:49.04 | ag` | I have a hard time understanding how addons can use >2MB |
01:49.27 | rophy | that's why I'm saying, but Baggins still good with that. |
01:49.34 | ag` | yeah, I like it |
01:49.41 | NightHawkTheSane | baggins is seriously the best bag addon i've seen since enginv :P |
01:49.44 | rophy | it's currently on top of my addon memory usage list, even higher than Ace2. |
01:49.47 | Andune | <3 baggins |
01:49.50 | AnduinLothar | obtw someone needs to rewrite the AceDB configs... it's so Not intuitive |
01:49.51 | rophy | agree |
01:50.06 | hyperChipmunk | configs? |
01:50.07 | Andune | tho you can drop the 'since'. no qualifier needed. |
01:50.12 | AnduinLothar | the profiles |
01:50.30 | ag` | I'm not sure I like how you have virtual bags though |
01:50.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Andune: eh, you have to give EngInv credit, I think it was the first mod that did that style of sorting, wasn't it? |
01:50.48 | rophy | virtual bags are good for us lazy guys who doesnt' want to spend 1 second on sorting the bags. |
01:51.05 | rophy | EngInventory was great if not the original author quitted. |
01:51.16 | ag` | I know I know I am lazy too, but I mean why not have one bag |
01:51.20 | Andune | nighthawkthesane: not sure, my first intro was tbgas, a follow on to eng |
01:51.26 | ag` | I just don't see the use, I have all my bags open at once always |
01:51.41 | Antiarc | Bah |
01:51.42 | rophy | I need to find the items quickly and accurately, I don't want to dig through the big bag. |
01:51.46 | Antiarc | Prat won't let me link http://www.jonathancoulton.com/mp3/Mandelbrot%20Set.mp3 |
01:51.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: some people might not want every bag open at the same time |
01:52.00 | rophy | you dunno the feel until you used EngInventory. |
01:52.03 | AnduinLothar | I prefer seeing everything at once sorted |
01:52.10 | Andune | but yeah, tbags/eng got me addicted to the style. Baggins just perfected it. But it far surpasses the original TBag/Engi, IMHO |
01:52.25 | AnduinLothar | oi tbag is painful to use |
01:52.33 | ag` | can you even bind keys to open only one specific bag? |
01:52.35 | AnduinLothar | advanced bags plus is pretty good |
01:52.50 | rophy | I guess most of the baggins user used EngInventory and were addicted to it, then cannot live without virtual bags |
01:52.56 | AnduinLothar | but ark inv is easier to use |
01:53.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: sadly, not that i'm aware of. It'd be a nice feature, though. You can individually open bags via the fubar plugin, though |
01:53.13 | Andune | erg, yeah I can't imagine going back. What a nightmare. |
01:53.25 | NightHawkTheSane | is AdvancedBagsPlus still updated? |
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01:53.33 | NightHawkTheSane | That was good, but a real pain to get working right. |
01:53.34 | Andune | I thought I had a good system before. But once you realize how easy it can be, you're amazed you ever lived without it. |
01:53.38 | ag` | if you can't open specific bags with hotkeys, I am not sure I get why virtual bags are better than one big sorted bag |
01:53.41 | aen` | does ~ work as false in dogtags? |
01:53.45 | rophy | now if I don't load Baggins, it takes 1 minute for my to find any item. |
01:53.51 | rophy | that is nightmare. |
01:53.52 | ag` | I think I'll go merge all my bags into one in Baggins |
01:54.01 | Andune | ag`: I hate bags. period. I have one window with sorted sub-sections. |
01:54.11 | Chompers | is it possible to add colour to [Faction] using dogtag? |
01:54.21 | Chompers | red/green or something |
01:54.27 | ag` | Andune, I hate bags too |
01:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: because i only need a hotkey to open bags that contain things i need access to often. I have a bag set up strictly for gear sets, which i manage via itemrack, so I dont need direct access to that bag, and don't want it taking up my screen space when i'm looking at consumables :P |
01:54.36 | aen` | use RepColor |
01:54.38 | aen` | chompers |
01:54.46 | Chompers | aah, thankyou |
01:54.48 | sylvanaar | Antiarc yeah, i bet it wont |
01:54.54 | rophy | if you want to know why virtual bags are addicting, just go try EngInventory, it requires no configuration. |
01:55.10 | Wobin | Don't look at the memory/cpu usage of it though |
01:55.11 | rophy | people scare away from it because of the performance, the mod itself is great. |
01:55.13 | Wobin | and Don't be a hunter |
01:55.27 | rophy | try out EngInventory first, then beg for baggins once you're addicted to it. |
01:55.53 | sylvanaar | i can run 3-4 wows on my machine - i dont care about addon performance |
01:56.04 | ag` | NightHawkTheSane, hmm yeah. Gear I've looted farming shows up in my gear bag, which is annoying and hinders me from using it the way you describe |
01:56.07 | rophy | I can barely open my browser then 1 wow running. |
01:56.20 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r82 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc localization/TinyTipLocale.lua): TinyTip: Should be ready for TinyTipCoreModules. Also removed the code for SmoothBorder -- don't worry, it'll be back, just inside another module. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn) |
01:56.21 | rophy | s/then/when/ |
01:56.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: i've set up categories/rules to avoid that from happening ;) |
01:57.10 | rophy | there is no 'gear bag' if you use virtual bags, no? |
01:57.23 | ag` | NightHawkTheSane, yeah I think you can make a rule that checks if something is BoE or shoulbound, but hmm. Isn't that very expensive tooltip scanning stuff? ugh |
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01:57.27 | sylvanaar | sure, there can be rophy |
01:57.31 | NightHawkTheSane | rophy: i have multiple "bag windows" in baggins :P |
01:57.36 | sylvanaar | they are virtual after all |
01:57.48 | rophy | I have a virtual gear bag |
01:57.52 | rophy | but loots won't go into that. |
01:57.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: i think baggins does caching to avoid re-evaluating stuff like that often. |
01:57.57 | rophy | by definition |
01:58.15 | sylvanaar | baggins drove me nuts trying to configure |
01:58.24 | rophy | it took me a while to set up too. |
01:58.24 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r83 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Whoops, core shouldn't be triggering messages inside a module |
01:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: yeah, the configuration is an absolute beast. |
01:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | you'll spend all day getting it just right, but once you do, it's freaking gravy. |
01:58.56 | rophy | but I guess what it needs is just some more default profiles. |
01:59.03 | sylvanaar | i wanted gear in one bag separated by slot, and each type took 2 different menu entries |
01:59.07 | rophy | so that most people dont need to confiure it. |
01:59.16 | sylvanaar | yeah |
01:59.19 | sylvanaar | presets |
01:59.21 | rophy | that's why I did sylvanaar, I used 2 profiles for it though. |
01:59.26 | rophy | s/why/what/ |
01:59.28 | ag` | I do like baggins, but I'm kinda annoyed how I have 12 virtual bags on screen when I open my bank. |
01:59.50 | sylvanaar | right, empty bags which show too |
01:59.57 | rophy | something cannot be done in 1 profile, since the 'item' options are global and not per bag. |
02:00.09 | rophy | like I want to hide duplicate items in each bag, but not sections. |
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02:00.22 | rophy | so that I can show equipment bag sorted by slot, and AIO bag sorted by categories. |
02:00.32 | sylvanaar | right |
02:00.35 | sylvanaar | exactly |
02:00.37 | rophy | currently I use 2 profiles for that, but not so convinent. |
02:00.44 | ckknight | alright, back |
02:00.48 | rophy | the items option shold support per bag |
02:01.39 | ag` | ckknight should go into the bag business |
02:01.52 | ckknight | ? |
02:02.06 | ag` | I bet all current bag addons bugger ckknight in some way |
02:02.12 | ag` | he should go fix it |
02:02.15 | Wobin | >< |
02:02.17 | sylvanaar | the filtering and sorting stuff looks like it may have been added over time which is why its so funky |
02:02.28 | ckknight | ag`: nah, bags don't interest me |
02:02.47 | rophy | the filtering system seems good enough for me, just need some per-bag configurations other than the categories. |
02:02.54 | ag` | no, you hate them, and want to to go away through a sorted bag |
02:02.57 | sylvanaar | like it started with just filtering for bags, then they added sorting too, and just reused the existing filters |
02:03.03 | ag` | *shrug* |
02:03.40 | rophy | from the SV, sorting seems is just the order of bags in the lua list. |
02:03.49 | rophy | { {bag1}, {bag2}, {bag3} } etc |
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02:04.01 | sylvanaar | ah sub bags |
02:04.27 | ag` | bedtime |
02:04.35 | sylvanaar | which makes sense why they use the same filters |
02:05.17 | rophy | I guess that's good enough for me. |
02:05.34 | JoshBorke | Cryect: HOLY SHIT |
02:05.39 | JoshBorke | Cryect: recount is fucking awesome |
02:05.43 | NightHawkTheSane | the internals of baggins are probably in a fair state of disarray, as Nargiddley kind of disappeared :P |
02:05.56 | sylvanaar | im going to bed too - have fun guys |
02:06.02 | rophy | gn |
02:07.07 | Chompers | i have no idea how to bind repcolor to faction, can anyone help me out? |
02:07.54 | Wobin | Narg is still around, no? |
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02:08.00 | Wobin | I've seen him every now and again |
02:08.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i think he comes in now and again |
02:08.43 | AnduinLothar | how do i get baggin's sorting options to apply? i assume it's caching but after i add a bag section it doesn't change |
02:08.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ~seen Nargiddley |
02:08.50 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 35m 19s ago, saying: '*wide as high'. |
02:09.08 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: user error imo |
02:09.42 | rophy | AnduinLothar: you set up categories first, then you set up the sections in the bags, then you select the categories in each section. |
02:09.45 | rophy | doing the correct thing? |
02:09.47 | Ordog | puthelp "WHO JoshBorke %nahru" |
02:09.50 | AnduinLothar | ah, i have to use the apply on the categories window. there's no apply button on the bags window |
02:10.20 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: ah, yeah, i believe categories are cached, so you need to "Apply" when changing them, bags/sections aren't though |
02:10.22 | Ordog | sry JoshBorke your a random testtarget :) |
02:11.44 | AnduinLothar | he should make the config a scrollable window with drag and drop entries like i did in bank manager and wardrobe |
02:11.58 | AnduinLothar | shift-clcik to go up and alt-click to go down is kludgy |
02:12.12 | rophy | he use dewdrop for the configuration, which probably doesn't support drag and drop. |
02:12.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
02:12.37 | AnduinLothar | these always open windows dont look dewdrop |
02:12.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Probably tablet, actually |
02:12.54 | AnduinLothar | for categories and bags |
02:13.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, probably tablet |
02:13.06 | rophy | probably tablet. |
02:13.44 | rophy | neither supports drag and drag though. |
02:14.55 | mjc | drag and drag? |
02:15.00 | mjc | two dressed-up guys? |
02:15.09 | rophy | Baggins cost 2.47MB memory before I even open the bags for the first time. |
02:15.11 | Andune | lol |
02:15.15 | rophy | I have no idea why... |
02:15.31 | clad|afk | PT? |
02:15.35 | rophy | I like to drag, I dun like to drop |
02:15.40 | rophy | PT disembedded. |
02:15.41 | Kemayo | No, PT3 is disembedded. |
02:15.44 | clad|afk | weird |
02:16.14 | Kemayo | I forgot how much it bugs me that baggins doesn't replace your bags. |
02:16.15 | Wobin | It probably does it's processing before you open your bags |
02:16.25 | Wobin | Kemayo: change the hotkey |
02:16.30 | rophy | it has a lag spike when I first open the bags |
02:16.37 | Kemayo | Wobin: I shouldn't have to! |
02:16.37 | rophy | which leads me to believe it load the bags on demand. |
02:16.51 | Wobin | what's the memory spike before and after? |
02:16.55 | rophy | lemme see |
02:17.19 | Kemayo | Yeah, after going to the bank and everything it's only up to 2.51 MB. |
02:17.21 | Wobin | I think Baggins does a stackcheck on bag open |
02:17.32 | Wobin | which is the cause for the lag |
02:17.37 | rophy | 2.45 -> 2.47 |
02:17.55 | rophy | the lag spike only occurs on first time I open bag. |
02:18.09 | Wobin | I remember convincing narg to do the check on bagopen instead of all the time =) |
02:18.16 | Chompers | [Faction:Green] works, but [Faction:RepColor] does not, do i need to add something extra? |
02:18.41 | rophy | seems like he creates the buttons on initialize, and do some more intialization at the first bag open then |
02:19.04 | Antiarc | ckknight: Is there a tag to color percentages on a gradient? |
02:19.13 | Antiarc | ie, health, green 100% -> red 0% |
02:19.25 | ckknight | HPColor |
02:19.49 | Chompers | [Faction:HostileColor] works, hurah :D |
02:23.36 | Gnarfoz | I know Karazhan bosses are quite non-linear, but progress wise: does one kill Moroes before or after Aran? |
02:23.40 | Gnarfoz | i.e. which is harder |
02:24.00 | Antiarc | And for mana? |
02:24.01 | clad|afk | moroes before aran |
02:24.05 | Antiarc | MPColor and ManaColor don't work |
02:24.13 | clad|afk | aran is ass hard compared to moroes |
02:24.18 | AnduinLothar | http://68.4.1.88:82/~karl/blog/WoW/ScrollFrameDraggable3.avi |
02:24.57 | Antiarc | Aran's the most execution-based fight in the zone, IMO |
02:25.05 | Antiarc | Aha, PowerColor |
02:25.11 | clad|afk | yep |
02:25.24 | clad|afk | although it still has quite a large random facotr |
02:25.26 | clad|afk | factor |
02:25.29 | kergoth | AnduinLothar, neat |
02:25.36 | Wobin | "Nine Nine Nine Nine Nine..." |
02:26.20 | Wobin | AnduinLothar: hey that looks cool =) what's the green square off to the left? |
02:26.46 | KarlThePagan | what format is that file? |
02:26.49 | KarlThePagan | heh |
02:26.51 | AnduinLothar | you're prolly looking at it in a viewer that doesn't support cropping |
02:26.54 | hyperChipmunk | that's teh kind of thing i was saying cowtip needed |
02:27.06 | KarlThePagan | divx6 or wmv |
02:27.26 | hyperChipmunk | the move up/down buttons |
02:27.45 | AnduinLothar | divx 6 |
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02:28.15 | AnduinLothar | my nice video editor ran out of demo time so i had to crop it |
02:28.26 | AnduinLothar | i dunno what the green was, cursor glitch or something |
02:28.47 | AnduinLothar | there's no green box int eh cropped veiw |
02:29.07 | Wobin | cropped view is just of the menu itself? |
02:29.30 | AnduinLothar | ya |
02:29.47 | AnduinLothar | what're you using the view it? |
02:29.51 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
02:29.59 | hyperChipmunk | mplayer shows all the way to the chatbox |
02:30.15 | AnduinLothar | yeah, try QuickTime |
02:30.19 | AnduinLothar | or vlc maybe |
02:30.31 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i'll just fire up QuickTime for Linux here |
02:30.46 | AnduinLothar | ah yeah vlc doesn't crop either |
02:30.49 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
02:30.51 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/sfd.png |
02:31.04 | Gnarfoz | limited software choice in the world of OSS? no wai! |
02:31.05 | Gnarfoz | :D |
02:31.35 | AnduinLothar | yeah, some moouse indicator in the free software i was using |
02:31.54 | hyperChipmunk | ~console AnduinLothar |
02:31.55 | purl | ACTION gives AnduinLothar the consolation moose |
02:32.17 | AnduinLothar | mmm coincidence? |
02:32.30 | ckknight | ...no |
02:32.32 | hyperChipmunk | a mÞÞuse bit my sister once |
02:33.07 | hyperChipmunk | my purl-fu is strong |
02:33.11 | hyperChipmunk | my form, impeccable |
02:33.31 | AnduinLothar | ew... that tablet scroll bar is horrid |
02:33.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I once had a mousse |
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02:34.03 | clad|afk | i have the magic bullet |
02:34.11 | clad|afk | and it can make a 15 second chocolate mousse |
02:34.13 | clad|afk | delicious |
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02:36.14 | hyperChipmunk | if by 'horrid' you mean 'functional and unobtrusive', i'm right there with ya |
02:36.23 | AnduinLothar | wow... getting baggins to make a bag with sorted sections for every equipment type is painful... |
02:36.45 | rophy | everyone agreed it's painful to set up |
02:37.01 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but it's worth it |
02:37.07 | Chompers | ckk, say i'm targeting an npc who has no mana, how would i hide my mana status tag? |
02:37.07 | AnduinLothar | and i can't get it to update... |
02:37.12 | AnduinLothar | i even reloaded |
02:37.24 | AnduinLothar | and it's not showing bag sections i clearly added |
02:37.26 | ckknight | use HasNoMana |
02:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | you need more mojo clearly |
02:39.04 | AnduinLothar | ok, well it's adding the categories, but they're empty. even tho i clearly see items of equip loc wrist in my bags.. |
02:39.20 | rophy | it probably got added to another bag |
02:39.40 | rophy | if you have "Hide Duplicate Item" checked, and another bag/section matches the criteria, then it doesnt show in the 2nd bag/section. |
02:39.51 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
02:39.54 | rophy | that's what currently bugs me. |
02:40.01 | NightHawkTheSane | (And, to be sure, bags/sections/categories are evaluated in the order they appear in the tablet) |
02:40.05 | rophy | "Hide Duplicate Item" should be per bag, not globa. |
02:40.17 | AnduinLothar | ahh |
02:40.22 | AnduinLothar | yeah that was it |
02:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | so half of baggins is carefully crafting/ordering your sections/categories to get thigns to sort right ;) |
02:40.48 | rophy | http://ace.pastey.net/62318 |
02:40.58 | rophy | here's what I have set up for equipment and AIO bags. |
02:41.05 | rophy | may be you can copy & paste to save some time? |
02:41.14 | AnduinLothar | possibly |
02:41.15 | AnduinLothar | thx |
02:41.21 | rophy | I use 2 profiles for equipment and AIO bag though |
02:41.36 | rophy | and Baggins doesn't refresh well on switching profiles. |
02:42.03 | rophy | after switching profile, I manually do a /script AceLibrary("Sieve-0.1"):ForceFullUpdate() |
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02:48.25 | Killmore | Antiarc: http://stage6.divx.com/user/eoy/video/1342303/Forte-Vs--Archimonde |
02:48.31 | Killmore | look at the threat meter :P |
02:48.44 | AnduinLothar | thx that had the categories i needed, jsut need to make the bags |
02:48.49 | nekoh | yea, also just saw that one :D |
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02:49.53 | Antiarc | http://i9.tinypic.com/4y69f82.jpg <-- hotness |
02:50.35 | abyssichate | is that yours, Antiarc? |
02:51.03 | Antiarc | Yes |
02:51.15 | Antiarc | CowTip screenshot, taken 2 minutes ago :D |
02:51.42 | abyssichate | I seriously need that font |
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02:51.56 | abyssichate | I'll put the level and race on the right of the name, good idea |
02:52.34 | nekoh | going to bed, gn8 |
02:52.49 | Chompers | ckk: i think i did something wrong [FractionalMP:Short:PowerColor:~HasNoMP] |
02:52.59 | ckknight | you did |
02:53.14 | ckknight | [~HasNoMP?FractionalMP:Short:PowerColor] |
02:53.16 | Chompers | i'm trying to make something very close to your Antiarc, but i want my mana hidden when the mob has none |
02:53.31 | Chompers | aaah! thank you ckknight |
02:54.05 | Chompers | fucking awesome, ty so much ckk |
02:54.14 | ckknight | :-) |
02:54.45 | Kinkx | Is far along is Omen these days? :) |
02:54.50 | abyssichate | Antiarc: would you mind uploading the font somehwere? |
02:54.51 | Kinkx | Guild still using KTM :< |
02:54.53 | abyssichate | *somewhere |
02:55.11 | Lywellyn|Away | hey there ckknight. Have a question: For raid layout, is it possible to remove the (MM:SS) part of the status, but leaving the status intact for the health text? |
02:55.23 | ckknight | ...no |
02:55.26 | ckknight | sorry |
02:55.34 | Antiarc | abyssichate: It's just one that comes with SharedMedia |
02:55.52 | Lywellyn|Away | Oh hey, Antiarc is voiced. |
02:56.02 | ckknight | yep |
02:56.08 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Maybe add the feature? :( |
02:56.18 | ckknight | I don't see the point |
02:56.27 | Lywellyn | and not to leave anyone out: Hey, Shirik is voiced too. |
02:56.38 | Shirik | hey I got revoiced :) |
02:57.08 | ckknight | that's just cause Shirik's in the process of Ace'ing RDX |
02:57.23 | Lywellyn | *shrug* I only have small health bars for raids that show the person's name and their current HP (or their status if Dead/Ghost/whatever), but the (MM:SS) display pushes it over their name. Oh well. |
02:57.44 | abyssichate | Antiarc: ok, thanks |
02:57.58 | Shirik | would talk more but |
02:58.04 | Shirik | I'm kinda the guy that everyone's stepping on |
02:58.07 | Shirik | on prince |
02:58.27 | Antiarc | abyssichate: It's "Emblem" |
02:59.01 | abyssichate | Thanks, I need to install SharedMedia |
02:59.58 | Chompers | Antiarc, what do you think? |
02:59.59 | Chompers | http://i13.tinypic.com/6azhw14.jpg |
03:00.30 | Antiarc | Sexy! |
03:00.32 | Antiarc | I like it! |
03:00.51 | Chompers | what's the name of the font you use? |
03:01.02 | NightHawkTheSane | read up like six lines |
03:01.14 | Chompers | lulz |
03:01.20 | abyssichate | How do you colour the Alliance in blue and I guess Horde in red? |
03:01.26 | Chompers | too busy uploading that picture :P |
03:01.48 | Antiarc | ckknight: Your "Set Frame Anchor Offset" reads "unit anchor" |
03:01.53 | Antiarc | Emblem |
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03:02.20 | Chompers | [Faction:HostileColor] |
03:02.25 | kergoth | Antiarc, you should make your cowtip savedvars available, thats sexy :) |
03:02.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41345 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix the frame anchor offset name in the menu. |
03:03.17 | Antiarc | ckknight just needs to implement serialization/export |
03:03.26 | ckknight | yea, I will eventually |
03:03.45 | ckknight | think I'm gonna do background colors now... |
03:04.15 | abyssichate | Noo, server went offline |
03:04.32 | Gnarfoz | yay, EU servers down now |
03:04.34 | Gnarfoz | :[ |
03:04.34 | Chompers | imagine in a few weeks a whole forum thread filled with various layouts |
03:04.37 | Gnarfoz | 3 hours to kill ^^ |
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03:05.02 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41346 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Hyjal: add Azgalor mod |
03:05.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: read a book! |
03:05.38 | abyssichate | I was supposed to level but I spent half the time to set cowtip :p |
03:05.45 | Gnarfoz | nah, I do that all the time |
03:05.46 | abyssichate | *my alt |
03:05.53 | Gnarfoz | no movie ready to watch tho |
03:05.55 | Gnarfoz | sucks :\ |
03:06.01 | Antiarc | Chompers: What's your MP line tag? |
03:06.29 | AnduinLothar | anyone know wsg mark item id? |
03:06.33 | Chompers | [~HasNoMP?FractionalMP:Short:PowerColor] |
03:06.34 | AnduinLothar | i dont have one to check |
03:06.45 | Chompers | i'd tell you the rest but my server was shut down |
03:07.03 | Gnarfoz | AnduinLothar: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20558 |
03:07.07 | Chompers | followed by a standard percentage |
03:07.12 | AnduinLothar | thx |
03:08.01 | Chompers | do i have to do anything special for sharedmedia? |
03:08.09 | abyssichate | no, install it |
03:08.16 | Chompers | i've had them installed for awhile now and dont have that font you mentioned |
03:08.18 | abyssichate | and then you can select the font right away |
03:08.28 | abyssichate | maybe it's new or so |
03:08.40 | Antiarc | Chompers: MP tag plz >_> |
03:08.46 | Antiarc | Oh |
03:08.47 | Antiarc | You did |
03:09.03 | Chompers | :D |
03:09.32 | AnduinLothar | whats the name of the terrokar pvp tokens? |
03:09.34 | NightHawkTheSane | it's like an orgy of not paying attention in here isnt it ;) |
03:09.45 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: Spirit Shard, iirc. |
03:09.49 | AnduinLothar | thx |
03:10.36 | abyssichate | Antiarc, what's your name tag? |
03:10.45 | abyssichate | is it classcoloured if they are pvp targets? |
03:10.52 | Lywellyn | Chompers: what was that image you posted up there? |
03:11.33 | Chompers | that was my CowTip Layout |
03:11.34 | Antiarc | [PvPRank] [Name:HostileColor] |
03:11.39 | Antiarc | [Classification] [Level] [SmartRace] [SmartClass:ClassColor] on the right |
03:12.05 | abyssichate | thanks |
03:12.20 | Chompers | ooooh, im stealing that :P |
03:12.31 | abyssichate | I think I'll keep the classcoloured nickname and delete the class informations |
03:12.34 | Lywellyn | Ohh....hey, that's hot. So you can modify the tooltip for when you're hovering over someone? |
03:12.43 | abyssichate | Lywellyn: yes |
03:12.43 | Chompers | sure can |
03:12.55 | Lywellyn | Holy crap, I have to get in on tha.t |
03:13.09 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: not to bug you, but I saw it in the forum thread: do you think anchoring a side of the tooltip frame to the cursor (with offset) is possible at all? because that's the one annoying thing tinytip doesn't do quite right :\ |
03:13.17 | durcyn | hrm, PvPRank doesn't seem to be a valid tag |
03:14.14 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: yea, possible |
03:14.20 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: ...put it on the wish list |
03:14.28 | Gnarfoz | I'll do that =) |
03:14.40 | Gnarfoz | also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSA0QOaMCVQ xD |
03:14.40 | Chompers | PvPRank + PvPRankNum |
03:14.50 | Chompers | both valid on the dogtag wiki |
03:15.42 | Kemayo | ckknight: PitBull-r40446\PitBull.lua:166: attempt to index local 'parent' (a nil value) |
03:15.54 | Kemayo | ckknight: When I dragged a potion onto an action bar, strangely enough. |
03:16.15 | ckknight | out of date |
03:16.29 | Antiarc | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/62393 |
03:16.32 | Antiarc | When I mouse over a mob |
03:16.37 | Antiarc | not when I mouse over a player |
03:16.46 | Antiarc | I suspect that's not useful, how can I be more useful? |
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03:17.34 | ckknight | not sure. |
03:18.49 | Lywellyn | Chompers: That image, it's obviously when you're targeting yourself...which means you can[2007/06/22 11:25:02-27-x1]: <string>:"AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(G...":1: attempt to call global 'GetWorldStateInfo' (a nil value) |
03:18.50 | Lywellyn | AceConsole-2.0-39326 (Ace2):2632: in function `value' |
03:18.50 | Lywellyn | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3406: in function `ChatEdit_ParseText': |
03:18.50 | Lywellyn | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3098: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3097>: |
03:18.50 | Lywellyn | <in C code>: in function `ChatEdit_SendText' |
03:18.52 | Lywellyn | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3119: in function `ChatEdit_OnEnterPressed': |
03:18.54 | Lywellyn | <string>:"*:OnEnterPressed":1: in function <[string "*:OnEnterPressed"]:1> |
03:18.56 | Lywellyn | whoa |
03:18.58 | Lywellyn | sorry >< |
03:18.59 | Antiarc | Aha |
03:19.04 | Antiarc | Faction:HostileColor was causing it |
03:19.05 | Lywellyn | totally didn't mean to do a copy/paste there o_O |
03:19.23 | Lywellyn | but when you hit shift/insert instead of shift/delete, that'll happen.... >< |
03:19.40 | Lywellyn | anyways, I WAS saying up there: which means you can't show experience for other people, right? |
03:19.50 | Chompers | it worked on people on ironforge, but i see what you mean |
03:19.50 | AnduinLothar | i win http://68.4.1.88:82/~karl/blog/WoW/Baggins.jpg |
03:20.01 | Chompers | its getting MY faction, not theirs |
03:20.13 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: lol, grats? |
03:20.17 | aen` | thats alot of subdividing |
03:20.35 | AnduinLothar | yeah took a while >.< |
03:20.42 | aen` | christ, a tabard section? |
03:20.45 | Antiarc | [Faction?Faction:HostileColor] |
03:20.47 | Antiarc | That solves it. |
03:21.06 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: yeah, i know. took me a while too :) |
03:21.08 | ckknight | Antiarc: [Faction:HostileColor] |
03:21.24 | aen` | to save some space id turn section titles off |
03:21.33 | ckknight | Antiarc: weird... |
03:21.39 | Antiarc | ckknight: That gives me the error when mousing over a mob |
03:22.58 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r41347 10EnchantingSell/ (3 files): |
03:22.58 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
03:22.58 | CIA-22 | - implemented feasibility based on counts in bags. |
03:22.58 | CIA-22 | - implemented Enchant button. ES can now be used to enchant items |
03:22.58 | CIA-22 | - new option to disable showing default craft frame. |
03:23.04 | Antiarc | How do I insert a string if a condition matches? |
03:23.43 | Antiarc | ie, I want to have [HasSoulstone?"Soulstoned"] |
03:24.06 | ckknight | Antiarc: [HasSoulstone] returns blank or "Soulstone" |
03:24.19 | ckknight | but what you want is [HasSoulstone?Text(Soulstoned)] |
03:24.23 | Antiarc | Aha, ok, thanks |
03:24.49 | AnduinLothar | mmm forgot a Reagents section |
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03:25.00 | Antiarc | Doesn't seem to be working. Hm. |
03:25.06 | ckknight | what's an easy way to tell if someone is in your guild or friend's list? |
03:25.13 | AnduinLothar | loop them |
03:25.34 | ckknight | srsly? |
03:25.35 | ckknight | dang. |
03:25.38 | AnduinLothar | no other way afaik unelss you cache the list into a table every time it changes |
03:25.58 | Chompers | there must be a tag to do that ckknight |
03:26.16 | ckknight | wait, for guild it's easy |
03:26.27 | ckknight | GetGuildInfo("target") == GetGuildInfo("player") |
03:26.32 | AnduinLothar | if you have their unitid ya |
03:26.36 | AnduinLothar | thought you meant name |
03:26.38 | Antiarc | ckknight: [~HasSoulstone] is giving "true" on a priest that is soulstoned |
03:27.12 | ckknight | lame |
03:27.20 | ckknight | try [HasAura(Soulstone)] |
03:27.33 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: I have the unit ID |
03:29.28 | Chompers | what if i wanted both friends/guildmenbers to be coloured something? |
03:29.39 | Chompers | [Name:IsFriend:HostilityColor] |
03:29.41 | ckknight | Chompers: I'm adding it as a background color thing. |
03:29.48 | Chompers | ah right, sweet |
03:31.49 | JoshBorke | nn all |
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03:32.52 | Antiarc | ckknight: [HasAura(Soulstone Resurrection)?Text(Soulstoned)] |
03:33.13 | Chompers | nice, stealing that too |
03:33.19 | ckknight | Antiarc: ah. |
03:33.27 | ckknight | Antiarc: lemme fix it in DogTag |
03:34.43 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41348 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: don't nil 2 locals on OnEnable(), using yells now |
03:35.35 | aen` | we need a moveanything mod that can be used with x/y coord positioning and frame relevancy |
03:35.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41349 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix tag HasSoulstone to work with Soulstone Resurrection |
03:37.01 | AnduinLothar | frame relevancy? |
03:37.07 | aen` | like UIparent |
03:37.33 | aen` | like how discord worked |
03:37.38 | AnduinLothar | well you can drag things with FluidFrames and set the xy in the sv i spose.. |
03:37.54 | aen` | ehh ive tried it |
03:38.21 | aen` | nothing can touch discord the way it handled frame positioning |
03:38.30 | aen` | EEpanels works that way |
03:38.39 | aen` | i just wish there was a mod that could let u do it to any window |
03:39.16 | AnduinLothar | wouldn't be too hard to add to FF, but why would you want it? |
03:39.45 | aen` | lol, compulsiveness with centering frames and symmetry i suppose :P |
03:39.59 | AnduinLothar | dragging aint good enough for you? |
03:40.11 | aen` | and makes it easier to scale down UI and movement |
03:40.22 | aen` | dragging gets sloppy tho |
03:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | some people like pixel precision |
03:41.16 | AnduinLothar | must have bad eyes or poor hand motor functions... not that hard to get pixel percision dragging |
03:41.25 | aen` | exact positioning though |
03:41.31 | aen` | its a bit of OCD |
03:41.59 | aen` | and you cant directly center stuff by eye |
03:42.08 | NightHawkTheSane | mouse tracking and wow's dragging capabilities aren't typically the most precise things ever. |
03:42.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41350 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add specialized background coloring. |
03:42.24 | aen` | agreed |
03:42.26 | ckknight | plztest |
03:42.27 | ckknight | kthx |
03:42.36 | AnduinLothar | too lazy to throw a frame:setPoint into an addon? |
03:42.39 | NightHawkTheSane | And beyond that, it's hard to eyeball what's "exactly center" |
03:43.11 | Chompers | [Faction:IsEqual([Faction#player])?Green!Red] would that work? |
03:43.19 | aen` | i mean right now i have to pop out EEpanels, make a frame centered, then drag to that with the frame i want, then hide the ee panel |
03:43.22 | aen` | wayy too much work |
03:43.37 | AnduinLothar | lol |
03:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: too lazy to throw said functionality into a frame moving addon? :P |
03:43.39 | ckknight | Chompers: I guess so |
03:43.42 | AnduinLothar | cause you do that every 5 min? |
03:43.50 | ckknight | Chompers: [IsFriend?Greed!Red] would be easier. |
03:43.55 | ckknight | Chompers: test my last commit |
03:43.57 | ckknight | Antiarc: you too |
03:43.58 | AnduinLothar | it's nto a function if it's abstracted, it's liek 200 lines of code |
03:44.10 | Antiarc | I'm testing right now |
03:44.11 | Chompers | i will as soon as the eu servers are up :P |
03:44.18 | ckknight | so AnduinLothar, i herd u liek mudkipz |
03:44.32 | break19 | anyone here familiar with itemprice-1.0? |
03:44.47 | AnduinLothar | so, ckknight, i heard you were an ass |
03:45.05 | ckknight | you don't catch humor, do you? |
03:45.23 | AnduinLothar | your humor is insulting |
03:45.32 | ckknight | it's not meant to be |
03:45.36 | ckknight | it's a popular meme |
03:46.20 | Antiarc | [2007/06/22 20:45:57-8000-x10]: CowTip-r41350\CowTip.lua:168: attempt to concatenate global 'num' (a nil value) |
03:46.21 | NightHawkTheSane | I like insulting humor. But I'm kind of a jerk. |
03:46.50 | Chompers | needs moar mudkipz |
03:46.53 | Chompers | MOAR |
03:47.01 | break19 | I know there's something wrong with this line I've added to garbagefu's vendor addon list.. but I cant figure out what.. |
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03:47.04 | break19 | ["itemprice"] = {name="ItemPrice", func="GetItemPriceLibPrice", check="ItemPrice" }, |
03:47.14 | ckknight | Antiarc: lame |
03:47.22 | Antiarc | ckknight: s/num/i/ |
03:47.33 | ckknight | Antiarc: yea |
03:47.34 | break19 | there's no error message, it's just not seeing that I have ItemPrice-1.0 installed and therefore doesnt show it in the addon list. |
03:47.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41351 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - bugfix |
03:47.36 | ckknight | figured that out |
03:47.42 | ckknight | try now |
03:47.42 | Antiarc | Already comes pre-tested! |
03:47.42 | break19 | wrt garbageFU that is |
03:47.44 | Antiarc | Hehe |
03:47.47 | Antiarc | I fixed it locally |
03:47.53 | Antiarc | We're in between Illhoof attempts |
03:47.57 | Antiarc | Which, incidentally |
03:48.02 | Antiarc | Lets me test global threat clears |
03:48.03 | Antiarc | :V |
03:49.25 | Cryect | hehe |
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03:50.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41352 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - cache globals, bugfix |
03:51.13 | Lywellyn | Are you done yet, ckknight? I want to download that. :p |
03:51.30 | break19 | is there no one that can help me tonight with tryin to add ItemPrice-1.0 support to my local GarbageFu supported vendor-price addon list? |
03:52.02 | aen` | so is closet gnome > wardrobe 2? |
03:52.48 | Chompers | i'm looking in the cowtip SV file, i dont see line 1 left at all |
03:53.04 | Chompers | but i see line 1 right fine |
03:54.26 | Chompers | nil, -- [1] i'm sure i had a few tags in there |
03:55.16 | aen` | which uses less memory? |
03:55.42 | Funkeh` | wtf is wardrob2 |
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03:56.48 | break19 | Funkeh`: keeps up to two Robs away from ya |
03:56.58 | Lywellyn | ckknight: the Frame anchor setting is for normal tooltips, right? |
03:57.14 | Funkeh` | break19: have a kitkat |
03:57.48 | break19 | Funkeh`: its too late for chocolate, but not too late to try to learn some more lua, if I could get someone to help me figure what I'm doin wrong.. :) |
03:59.18 | Antiarc | ckknight: Backgrounds seem to work |
04:01.19 | break19 | Funkeh`: if I add "local ItemPrice = AceLibrary("ItemPrice-1.0")" to a lua file, and the library doesnt exist, what happens? |
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04:01.48 | Funkeh` | mars colides into earth |
04:01.50 | Antiarc | Try local ItemPrice = AceLibrary:HasInstance("ItemPrice-1.0") and AceLibrary("ItemPrice-1.0") |
04:02.17 | break19 | Antiarc: ok.. tnx |
04:03.21 | Funkeh` | anyone here done leotheras recently with bigwigs? |
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04:05.27 | durcyn | yeah, Funkeh` |
04:05.52 | Funkeh` | when you engaged and the enrage bar pops, did you also get a whirlwind bar? |
04:06.04 | Chompers | [Level:IsLess(Level#player):DifficultyColor] yes/no? |
04:06.31 | Chompers | that should show the level if its lower than the players, then color it |
04:07.11 | Antiarc | )?D |
04:07.12 | Antiarc | I think |
04:07.34 | Chompers | but what about bosses |
04:07.51 | durcyn | hmm, i don't recall seeing a ww bar at any human phase start |
04:08.39 | Funkeh` | eh |
04:09.17 | durcyn | i'll verify on sunday |
04:09.31 | abyssichate | Chompers: does that work? |
04:09.31 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r84 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed critical error. Additionally, initialization should not happen for every single addon you have installed anymore (whoops). http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/ |
04:09.48 | Chompers | i cant test it abyssichate, servers are down |
04:09.58 | abyssichate | Oh, same here :/ |
04:10.03 | abyssichate | It'd be nice if it worked though |
04:10.12 | abyssichate | how much are they going to be down for? |
04:10.21 | Chompers | if it doesnt show bosses, just do: [Level:IsMore(Level#player):DifficultyColor] after the previous one |
04:10.25 | Chompers | i guess |
04:10.25 | abyssichate | three hours I heard, is that correct? |
04:10.31 | Chompers | aye |
04:10.43 | break19 | bah, screw it, I cant figure this gobbledy gook out. lol |
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04:11.08 | break19 | im too tired, maybe if I try again tomorrow, my mind will work better. night all |
04:13.51 | Chompers | ckknight, you said you had changed the way coloring worked, how does that affect friends/guild/enemy coloring now? |
04:15.29 | Chompers | e.g would having [Isfriend?Purple] before [hostilitycolor] work? |
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04:24.30 | Chompers | 5:30am, time for bed |
04:29.16 | ckknight | back |
04:29.49 | abyssichate | oh well, 6:30 here, good night |
04:29.49 | ckknight | Lywellyn: frame anchoring is for all tooltips, both units and frames, though the settings can be different |
04:29.58 | ckknight | Lywellyn: and so you know, none of my addons are ever done |
04:30.04 | ckknight | Lywellyn: but CowTip is usable now |
04:32.23 | ckknight | ugh, people keep telling me to make their mod ideas |
04:32.50 | ckknight | this one guy wants me to make an actionbar mod |
04:33.00 | ckknight | thing is, actionbars don't "work" for me |
04:33.13 | ckknight | I only need very minimal spells on my action bar |
04:33.18 | ckknight | everything else is click-casting |
04:33.36 | Funkeh` | theres no real need for an action abr mod |
04:33.43 | ckknight | right |
04:33.49 | NightHawkTheSane | theres plenty of good ones out there |
04:33.54 | ckknight | right |
04:34.04 | ckknight | I'm satisfied with Bartender, as well |
04:34.43 | Funkeh` | if you are looking for another mod idea you can try a cooldown count or something |
04:34.55 | ckknight | or an RP mod :-P |
04:35.07 | Funkeh` | since theres no real active cooldown mod on wowace |
04:35.19 | Funkeh` | and bar cooldown mods suck |
04:35.19 | ckknight | I use CooldownTimers2 |
04:35.36 | ckknight | though really, my next project will likely be the DPS library |
04:35.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: you mean something like omnicc? |
04:35.53 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: maybe |
04:36.16 | zac | ckknight: or a mod for mac users for iTunes? :D |
04:36.23 | ckknight | lol, no |
04:36.43 | ckknight | zac: the API's too weak to do anything with |
04:37.13 | NightHawkTheSane | you've got more or less everything you need in the keybinds anyway |
04:37.22 | ckknight | right |
04:37.26 | NightHawkTheSane | besides, maximized windowed mode + synergy is better anyway ;) |
04:37.34 | ckknight | synergy? |
04:37.56 | NightHawkTheSane | http://wincent.com/a/products/synergy-classic/ |
04:37.59 | ckknight | so here's my current mod to-do list: DPS lib, RP mod, SCT clone |
04:38.03 | zac | meh, growl + growltunes is a good combo. |
04:38.05 | ckknight | that's about it, though |
04:38.12 | zac | synergy is pretty nice though. but growl beta is soooo nice. |
04:38.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Synergy plugs in to growl :p |
04:38.31 | zac | does it? i think it used to be its own. |
04:38.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it does |
04:38.41 | ckknight | ctrl-option-cmd then an arrow key handles iTunes for me |
04:38.45 | durcyn | ckknight: pie menus, in my opinion. |
04:38.52 | ckknight | or ctrl-option-cmd-space to pause |
04:38.59 | ckknight | durcyn: except I don't see the point :-P |
04:39.01 | zac | yeah, i have quicksilver set to do global binds |
04:39.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't like quicksilver's itunes controller |
04:39.22 | durcyn | the point is hideable bars that don't clutter the screen when they aren't being used =P |
04:39.54 | ckknight | it would be an interesting intellectual challenge. |
04:40.08 | ckknight | see, I don't make mods just to make mods, I make mods to be challenged |
04:40.20 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41353 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: tweaks |
04:40.26 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: have you played NWN? |
04:40.28 | ckknight | e.g. to trump someone else, or to make something that hasn't been made, basically |
04:40.33 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: yea, but not extensively |
04:40.35 | durcyn | Sprocket did it well pre-2.0, i just don't think there's a good way to fix it up for 2.x |
04:41.00 | zac | i definitely appreciate your work in making some pretty kickass addons. |
04:41.20 | hyperChipmunk | you know, i think i might give a go at pie menus |
04:41.36 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb sprocket. |
04:41.42 | durcyn | or, how about this. the Geist author insulted your parents. |
04:41.56 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: get with wobin and haste and make Splut what it should be. |
04:42.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh, yea |
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04:42.16 | hyperChipmunk | post-2.0 pretty much makes pie menus impossible |
04:42.38 | durcyn | even a single level would be sufficient, sans nesting |
04:42.41 | NightHawkTheSane | not impossible, i dont think, just.. less robust |
04:42.54 | Wobin | Haste didn't work on splut with me |
04:42.55 | ZealotOnAStick | There's secure pie frames in 2.0 |
04:43.00 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, who was it? |
04:43.29 | Wobin | Sole |
04:43.30 | hyperChipmunk | pie menus basically means action buttons appearing and disappearing in combat |
04:43.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah right. |
04:44.02 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd honestly be thrilled with a radial menu that only worked OOC. |
04:44.11 | hyperChipmunk | and they're not really useful unless they respond to mouse movements (as opposed to clicks) |
04:44.14 | ZealotOnAStick | a lot of what I personally used Sprocket for was OOC stuff. |
04:44.30 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
04:45.32 | hyperChipmunk | and ideally, they'd be dynamic depending on what the mouse is over when they're invoked |
04:45.40 | durcyn | hrm, is it possible to have a mouseover cast out of combat, but a click cast in combat depending on lockdown? |
04:45.47 | durcyn | on the same frame / button, i mean |
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04:45.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Sprocket allowed me to move a lot of "sometimes used, but when I do need it, I need it QUICK" stuff off of my bars and slim down my interface tremendously. |
04:46.06 | hyperChipmunk | basically, it requires a bunch of stuff that can't be done in 2.0 |
04:46.17 | ZealotOnAStick | now in BC, I've got 60 freaking buttons on screen + pet bar. |
04:46.24 | Peoii | I completely miss Sprocket |
04:46.36 | Peoii | that's the one addon pre-xpac that I would kill to have back :/ |
04:46.51 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41354 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Massive improvements to the drawing performance for filled graphs |
04:47.29 | hyperChipmunk | yea, might be handy for tradeskills, equipment management, etc. stuff |
04:47.33 | hyperChipmunk | i'll fiddle with it some |
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04:50.00 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
04:50.00 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
04:55.41 | ckknight | I might do a circular thingy. |
04:55.44 | ckknight | could be interesting. |
04:55.54 | Cryect | Circular thingy? HUD? |
04:56.10 | ckknight | circular menu deal |
04:56.13 | ckknight | y |
04:56.17 | Cryect | oh one of those |
04:56.31 | xystic | Kinda like an iPod... in WoW... |
04:56.40 | ckknight | would need to come up with a name, though |
04:56.48 | xystic | iMenu |
04:56.51 | ckknight | what's funny and potentially related to animals? |
04:56.54 | ckknight | good god, no |
04:57.04 | xystic | why animals? |
04:57.12 | Cryect | because thats his trend |
04:57.16 | xystic | ah |
04:57.21 | hyperChipmunk | see, all I had to do was to start working on an interesting addon, and ckk jumps in to outdo me already >8P |
04:57.34 | hyperChipmunk | we have learned the seekrit |
04:57.39 | hyperChipmunk | we can make him do anything we want now! |
04:57.48 | Funkeh` | Armadillo? |
04:57.50 | ckknight | yea, I figure if I keep the animal thing, it'd be easier for everyone |
04:57.55 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I don't get it. |
04:57.58 | hyperChipmunk | starfish |
04:58.02 | ckknight | ooh. |
04:58.05 | ckknight | Starfish... |
04:58.09 | Cryect | Blowfish |
04:58.11 | Funkeh` | its circular... |
04:58.14 | hyperChipmunk | or Octopus |
04:58.19 | ckknight | oh, Octopus is good |
04:58.21 | xystic | An armadillo isn't circular... :/ |
04:58.22 | durcyn | call it.. Pie. |
04:58.33 | ckknight | maybe Hippo |
04:58.36 | ckknight | hippos are round |
04:58.39 | Cryect | SpiderWeb |
04:58.50 | xystic | Snails... if your menu was more spiral than circle. |
04:58.53 | Funkeh` | it can roll into a circular form |
04:58.57 | Cryect | DungBeetle |
04:59.04 | ckknight | no thanks, Cryect |
04:59.11 | ckknight | want to stay away from the poop |
04:59.16 | Cryect | :-p |
04:59.16 | xystic | iSnail |
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04:59.19 | Funkeh` | how about, Balls |
04:59.22 | ckknight | no iStuff |
04:59.27 | ckknight | Balls? |
04:59.28 | hyperChipmunk | i think Octopus would be too appropriate to the actual addon for ckk to use it as a name |
04:59.34 | Cryect | Bulls have mighty big balls |
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04:59.46 | xystic | 'coil' |
04:59.48 | durcyn | hmm. HamsterBall |
04:59.53 | ckknight | Cryect: already have an addon that has "Bull" in it |
05:00.02 | Cryect | True |
05:00.03 | Funkeh` | tbh Pulse sounds good for a circular menu |
05:00.12 | ckknight | HamsterBall, eh? |
05:00.31 | [Liquidor] | What are we naming? |
05:00.32 | ckknight | dunno |
05:00.37 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: circular menu thingy |
05:00.39 | Funkeh` | ckknight's mom |
05:00.56 | hyperChipmunk | a radial menu ckk just totally gypped from me |
05:01.01 | Antiarc | Anyone know if the Prince has any special threat mechanics? |
05:01.07 | ckknight | I didn't gyp it from you |
05:01.11 | ckknight | you suggested it |
05:01.11 | Cryect | Antiarc: none |
05:01.14 | Antiarc | I just saw my tank get enfeebed with me #2 on both threat meters at 83% of her aggro. |
05:01.15 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: not really |
05:01.20 | Antiarc | Which means I was actually above her threat. |
05:01.29 | Antiarc | So I'm wondering if shadow nova is a -slight- aggro reduction |
05:01.43 | hyperChipmunk | you have to let me contribute; I was just getting excited about it >*P |
05:01.52 | Funkeh` | no offense but your tnak is probably shit |
05:02.04 | Antiarc | No, she's really very good. |
05:02.05 | Funkeh` | i usually go all out and don't look at meters on that encounter |
05:02.08 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: Spiderweb |
05:02.20 | Antiarc | I was going all out, but I've been watching the meters as I have a vested interest in watching them :P |
05:02.31 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
05:02.33 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: also good, but I dunno |
05:02.35 | Antiarc | I was pulling a little over 800 DPS, and was sitting very comfortably at 83% of her total |
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05:02.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Sponge |
05:03.01 | ckknight | Sponge? |
05:03.02 | Funkeh` | dunno never had an issue with a tnak geting enfeeble |
05:03.02 | Antiarc | And then she got enfeebled, which means I was actually in the (100, 110) range |
05:03.11 | Funkeh` | TANK |
05:03.13 | Funkeh` | arg |
05:03.13 | Antiarc | The tank gets enfeebled if someone is above them in threat, but doesn't have aggro. |
05:03.15 | ZealotOnAStick | They're classified as animals (aquatic sponges) |
05:03.27 | ckknight | yea, but Sponges are lame |
05:03.36 | zacw | Antiarc: what % was prince at? |
05:03.40 | hyperChipmunk | i like starfish/octopus best |
05:03.47 | Antiarc | zacw: Had just entered phase 2. 58% or so. |
05:03.55 | xystic | Tumbleweed... it's no animal, but it sure seems animated. |
05:03.57 | ckknight | so I like: Starfish and Octopus thus far |
05:04.04 | zacw | yeah, I've seen my tank get emfeebled at the 60% start for no apparent reason. might not be threat. |
05:04.10 | ZealotOnAStick | I like Spiderweb. But I'm biased. |
05:04.19 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: also someone said it before you |
05:04.22 | Antiarc | It was the second enfeeble of phase 2, zacw |
05:04.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Kraken. |
05:04.25 | hyperChipmunk | i like my ideas because they're better |
05:04.32 | zacw | ah, indeed strange then. |
05:04.33 | Antiarc | I think. |
05:04.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh. Paying half-attention, in raid. |
05:04.51 | hyperChipmunk | radially-designed animals for radially designed menus |
05:04.52 | durcyn | RustyStarfish then, winner. |
05:05.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Kraken! |
05:05.08 | durcyn | (nevermind the vague sophomoric sphincter reference) |
05:05.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Then we can tell people "oh, you need to get Kraken!" |
05:05.18 | NightHawkTheSane | What in gods name are you people.. uh.. naming.. |
05:05.33 | hyperChipmunk | Octopus. Radial menu of awesomeness. It'll sucker your face. |
05:05.50 | durcyn | s/face/sister/g |
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05:07.00 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I'm not sure between Starfish and Octopus |
05:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Starfish, imo |
05:07.14 | hyperChipmunk | either can sucker one's face equally well |
05:07.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. FaceHugger? |
05:07.28 | Wobin | how much is nonflying epic mount? |
05:07.29 | ckknight | Chocolate Starfish |
05:07.32 | hyperChipmunk | 800 |
05:07.36 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: That's a little obscure |
05:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: 600 before discounts i believe |
05:07.48 | Wobin | ckknight: unfortunately, yes =P |
05:07.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: so? :P |
05:08.03 | ckknight | I don't get it, NightHawkTheSane |
05:08.15 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: You want it to be funny to everyone not just the ones who were here for the conversation =P |
05:08.33 | Wobin | Go for Starfish |
05:08.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Blowfish |
05:08.39 | Wobin | Or hell, just use Splut =P |
05:08.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenomorph_%28Alien%29#Facehugger |
05:08.57 | ckknight | nah, Splut sounds lame and like that sound when you hit something gooey against glass. |
05:09.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: I |
05:09.13 | hyperChipmunk | i like starfish |
05:09.16 | hyperChipmunk | it sounds less messy |
05:09.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: I'd laugh, and that's what matters to me :) |
05:09.27 | Wobin | ckknight: that's the point =P |
05:09.30 | hyperChipmunk | octopus is all tangly and messy |
05:09.35 | Wobin | it's like throwing sillyputty on a window |
05:09.38 | hyperChipmunk | and they squirt ink in your face |
05:09.44 | Wobin | you get menus out from the impact point |
05:09.52 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: okay, lemme finish CowTip, first |
05:10.02 | ckknight | should be an hour or so... |
05:10.08 | hyperChipmunk | i'm gonna keep writing what I got |
05:10.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Blowfish |
05:10.20 | ckknight | no, ZealotOnAStick |
05:10.29 | ckknight | I just really want to make the config stuff easier |
05:10.47 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, blowfish is an encryption algorithm, no need to reuse it |
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05:10.58 | hyperChipmunk | blowfish taken already anyway |
05:10.59 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
05:11.19 | NightHawkTheSane | At least, if I saw an addon named Blowfish, I'd assume it was encryption related |
05:11.26 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
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05:11.45 | CIA-22 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: |
05:11.45 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
05:12.00 | ckknight | yea, I was thinking OpenBSD's mascot |
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05:13.33 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
05:13.42 | hyperChipmunk | turns out i totally suck at coding |
05:13.45 | hyperChipmunk | i forgot about that part |
05:14.08 | hyperChipmunk | I can't even figure out how to make a frame /cry |
05:14.15 | NightHawkTheSane | if it wasn't probably totally copywrited, i'd say cowtip should have this icon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dogcow.png |
05:14.33 | ZealotOnAStick | creating a frame now is easy with the lua stuff. |
05:14.40 | ZealotOnAStick | way easier IMO than the damn XML |
05:14.48 | hyperChipmunk | moof! |
05:14.55 | NightHawkTheSane | moof, indeed! |
05:14.59 | hyperChipmunk | ZealotOnAStick: thanks for the encouragemen |
05:15.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I mean, hell, I suck at coding because I dislike it, and I figured out basics on it for earlier revisions of Voyeur. |
05:15.43 | hyperChipmunk | thanks |
05:15.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Before that guy basically decided to rewrite my mod for me and put in a bunch of stuff that all broke in 2.1. |
05:16.14 | hyperChipmunk | just keep laying on the insults, jerk |
05:16.23 | ZealotOnAStick | not insulting. Sheesh. Enhance your calm. |
05:16.27 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
05:16.30 | durcyn | voyeur's broken again in 2.1. noob =( |
05:16.32 | ZealotOnAStick | We just wiped to a really fucking crappy abyssal. |
05:16.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I know. |
05:17.37 | ZealotOnAStick | bah, I'd have to go look at an earlier revision. |
05:17.51 | hyperChipmunk | I'm actually thinking that the whole 'sucker' concept could be nice...being able to temporarily sticky a submenu arbitrarily would be handy |
05:17.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Was going to find what it was and tell you, but it's something relatively obvious like CreateFrame() |
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05:18.25 | hyperChipmunk | and it even fits the metaphor |
05:18.28 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: sup with a circular menu? with icons or text? |
05:18.28 | ZealotOnAStick | probably way, way better examples in others' code to look at. |
05:18.48 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: my guess is that it'd be icon-based, though I'd assume text'd go with it |
05:18.57 | hyperChipmunk | we need a disgusting *schlop* sound to go with that |
05:19.22 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: and what would this menu have control over? :) |
05:19.36 | [Liquidor] | or is a modular-thingy like fubar? |
05:20.09 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: spells, etc. |
05:20.20 | ckknight | though I'd be guessing I'd do it modularly |
05:20.28 | [Liquidor] | arh okay, like the warlock thing (now converted to all classes tho)= |
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05:20.45 | [Liquidor] | Cryo-something |
05:20.47 | ckknight | ...no, not really |
05:20.47 | hyperChipmunk | i'm thinknig your basic setup would have branches each for tradeskills, item-equip, food/drink/consumables, and buffs/ooc spells at least |
05:21.03 | ckknight | anybody ever play Sacrifice? |
05:21.07 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
05:21.11 | hyperChipmunk | that game friggin rocked |
05:21.21 | [Liquidor] | nah never heard of it |
05:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | "All your manahoars have been slaughtered." |
05:21.58 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: yea, that's where my circular menu idea stems from. |
05:23.14 | ckknight | so you press a button or click, the menu shows up, you go up to go to the tradeskills circle, and that becomes its own menu dealy |
05:23.19 | ckknight | etc. |
05:23.27 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
05:23.40 | ckknight | alright, so I'm thinking Starfish. |
05:23.48 | hyperChipmunk | and that's what i meant by going with the sucker metaphor |
05:24.04 | hyperChipmunk | click it to stick it as its own root for extended tradeskill sessions |
05:24.17 | ckknight | yea |
05:24.27 | hyperChipmunk | that's one thing that always frustrated me with radial menus |
05:24.42 | ckknight | and possibly assign certain submenus a keybinding |
05:24.51 | ckknight | so that in combat, you can press "J", let's say |
05:24.54 | hyperChipmunk | yea, nwn took advantage of that |
05:24.55 | ckknight | and your potions come up |
05:24.56 | ckknight | or something |
05:25.18 | hyperChipmunk | the numpad aliased to the positions around the circle |
05:25.34 | [Liquidor] | okay so a BF2142 menu alike |
05:25.36 | ckknight | ah, my keyboard has no numpad |
05:25.55 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: that's oldschool |
05:25.56 | hyperChipmunk | so even though you couldn't sticky it, you'd get pretty good with common sequences |
05:25.59 | [Liquidor] | I bet you use notepad too |
05:26.06 | ckknight | ...no |
05:26.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i bet he plays on a laptop |
05:26.10 | hyperChipmunk | no, that's iFruit |
05:26.11 | ckknight | I just have a laptop |
05:26.14 | NightHawkTheSane | and laptops typically do not have numpads |
05:26.27 | [Liquidor] | well same, but I got a keyboard connected |
05:27.18 | hyperChipmunk | i tried installing sacrifice in wine a few months back; couldn't get the installer to go D8< |
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05:27.35 | [Liquidor] | got this office table where I just place my laptop in the marked area and voila... mouse, 19"TFT, keyboard, mic and speakers connected <3 |
05:27.48 | ckknight | I'm on my bed |
05:27.50 | [Liquidor] | oh and intarweb |
05:28.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I think I have sacrifice disks somewhere. |
05:28.41 | [Liquidor] | well a menu to popup when like hitting space (altho I'm sure ppl would like another hotkey since they MUST be able to jump) in the center of the screen? |
05:28.52 | [Liquidor] | or holding* |
05:29.16 | [Liquidor] | or popup at your mouse possition |
05:29.30 | xystic | Does anyone here play WoW with an X3000? |
05:29.41 | [Liquidor] | then you choose the options around and you get a new circular menu with sub-toptions |
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05:29.48 | [Liquidor] | amirite, ckknight ? |
05:29.55 | ckknight | yes. |
05:29.59 | ckknight | it expands into new menus |
05:30.00 | [Liquidor] | well that would be great |
05:30.14 | Adirelle | damn, I get disconnected a few second after loading :/ |
05:30.17 | [Liquidor] | make it "fucking faded" |
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05:31.23 | [Liquidor] | well instead of icons... ellipses with text in |
05:31.29 | ckknight | whatever. |
05:31.32 | ckknight | :-P |
05:31.39 | [Liquidor] | you even gonna make it? |
05:31.47 | [Liquidor] | go make AceArt imo |
05:32.40 | ZealotOnAStick | AceArt's a crappy name. |
05:33.37 | Funkeh` | LiteBrush |
05:34.02 | ZealotOnAStick | so is that. Might as well call it LiteBrite. |
05:34.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I like LiteBrite |
05:34.24 | ZealotOnAStick | lots and lots of art references out there. |
05:34.26 | Funkeh` | maybe ArtOnAStick? |
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05:36.54 | Antiarc | Oy. |
05:37.01 | Antiarc | And for like the billionth time in a row: |
05:37.09 | Antiarc | I lose my T4 hat to someone that is on their first or second run. |
05:37.22 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
05:37.32 | NightHawkTheSane | meh :P |
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05:39.14 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: hoarde for t6 |
05:39.31 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: We run separate DKP for separate instances |
05:39.39 | syeren | ckknight. |
05:39.39 | syeren | [2007/06/23 06:33:25-1252-x1]: CowTip\CowTip.lua:733: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 690) near 'other' |
05:39.39 | syeren | --- |
05:39.44 | syeren | I take it you have fixed this already? |
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05:40.08 | ckknight | locally. |
05:40.17 | ckknight | just stick a comma in there. |
05:40.25 | syeren | Copy and paste your line please :D |
05:40.49 | [Liquidor] | syeren: slack |
05:41.31 | syeren | set = "SetBackgroundColor", |
05:41.31 | syeren | args = { |
05:41.31 | syeren | guild = { |
05:42.00 | ckknight | before dead |
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05:42.58 | syeren | There is no dead anywhere near that line, unless that has some other meaning. |
05:43.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Louvre. ArtShow. Exhibition. |
05:43.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Virtuoso. |
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05:43.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno, lots of more art-ey things that could be used. Just something better than "AceArt" |
05:44.01 | syeren | }, |
05:44.02 | syeren | dead = { |
05:44.42 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: about modularity. I think it'd be nice to be able to install/select packages, which are basically a submenu set |
05:44.49 | ckknight | very, very true. |
05:44.56 | hyperChipmunk | then you can attach them to the root, or even to other packages |
05:45.02 | hyperChipmunk | but that way |
05:45.06 | syeren | Is it supposed to be here ckknight? |
05:45.06 | syeren | } |
05:45.06 | syeren | other = { |
05:45.06 | syeren | name = "Other", |
05:45.11 | hyperChipmunk | you can have a tradeskill package, say |
05:45.19 | hyperChipmunk | and plug it in |
05:45.47 | hyperChipmunk | or you can have maybe a closetgnome-type package if someone wants to make one |
05:45.50 | ckknight | syeren: stick a , after } |
05:46.28 | hyperChipmunk | basically, define a package as a single node with children, and just provide the base root |
05:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | and everything else is a package (or whatever you want to call it) that gets plugged into the tree somewhere |
05:47.03 | syeren | That's on line 732 ckknight :P |
05:47.29 | syeren | Either way, time to see :) |
05:47.31 | hyperChipmunk | normally the root, but you should give the user the freedom to make his own submenus |
05:47.38 | [Liquidor] | ZealotOnAStick: I didn't mean to name it AceArt. Just using that name so ppl knows what I'm requesting. AceArt should be saying a lot |
05:47.51 | Adirelle | does the loadmanagers things really works ??? |
05:47.53 | Antiarc | Call it MonaLacea |
05:47.58 | hyperChipmunk | like a submenu from the root where they can put all of their packages of one type |
05:49.01 | hyperChipmunk | but doing it that way, you play to your strengths -- writing a framework that can be extended in an infinite number of ways |
05:49.35 | [Liquidor] | Imo hyperChipmunk ... |
05:49.57 | [Liquidor] | ...you should just send me Stargate Atlantis Season 1 Episode 1 and 2. |
05:50.23 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: you're gettin' on my nerves tonight |
05:51.01 | [Liquidor] | Sorry, just that.. Servers are taken down for 3 hours :/ |
05:51.30 | hyperChipmunk | take it out on someone else >*p |
05:51.51 | Gnarfoz | or rather, get the episodes yourself |
05:55.31 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07testcode * r41360 10ArkInventory/: Created folder remotely |
05:58.06 | ckknight | clearly the art addon should be called Guybrush |
05:58.21 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
06:00.57 | syeren | Wowhead got bought by IGE. |
06:01.01 | syeren | Crazy. |
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06:01.22 | Gnarfoz | what doesn't? |
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06:02.12 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07testcode * r41361 10ArkInventory/ (13 files): |
06:02.12 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: TestCode |
06:02.12 | CIA-22 | - example code for blizzard |
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06:04.45 | ckknight | syeren: for reals? |
06:05.40 | [Liquidor] | How do you know syeren ? There's no info about it on wowhead |
06:06.51 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
06:07.40 | KarlThePagan | giggawha ops? |
06:07.53 | syeren | ckknight. |
06:08.00 | syeren | They sold for around 1.2 million or something. |
06:08.25 | hyperChipmunk | see if they want to buy wowace.com |
06:08.26 | syeren | http://www.techsoapbox.com/hot-off-the-presses-wowhead-sold-for-over-1-million/ |
06:09.16 | syeren | So IGE own Thotbott, Allakhazam, and Wowhead now. |
06:09.41 | hyperChipmunk | there's no page there |
06:09.52 | hyperChipmunk | and there's nothing on the wowhead.com news & announcements |
06:11.11 | KarlThePagan | I was waiting for wowhead to deliver some better-than-the-rest application (gear profiler or somesuch) |
06:11.13 | ckknight | are you sure it isn't just backlash from the April Fool's joke? |
06:12.11 | hyperChipmunk | funny thing about the april fools joke, it was oddly premonitional |
06:13.53 | syeren | You have to remember, Affinity Media leave pretty much no information about themselves. |
06:14.01 | syeren | No one even knew they bought Allakhazam for a while. |
06:14.05 | hyperChipmunk | wish it was more so; bliz would have done better to get wowhead, rather than that garbage that is the armory |
06:14.22 | KarlThePagan | qft |
06:14.43 | syeren | http://www.zam.com/ |
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06:15.25 | KarlThePagan | I would be really bummed if this means that wowh won't be producing any additional applications |
06:15.36 | Kaelten | wowh? |
06:15.44 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
06:15.59 | [Liquidor] | Pfft I got my own search engine <3 |
06:15.59 | Kaelten | who/whats that? |
06:16.03 | syeren | Can't find any information on Affinity Media or ZAM Networks. |
06:16.08 | syeren | Apart from their owner used to be an actor. |
06:16.13 | KarlThePagan | wowhead - $1 million /pinkyfinger |
06:16.13 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
06:16.45 | hyperChipmunk | kael, you need to get us bought by IGE |
06:16.45 | ckknight | Kaelten: wowhead |
06:16.56 | hyperChipmunk | i want my cut of the $1.2M |
06:17.01 | hyperChipmunk | i'm friggin poor |
06:17.07 | ckknight | and I'm not? |
06:17.15 | hyperChipmunk | you live in hawaii |
06:17.16 | [Liquidor] | http://i13.tinypic.com/5y308kj.jpg -- tho it's in v1.23 now so kinda old screenshot |
06:17.21 | hyperChipmunk | you're poor in a pleasant place, at least |
06:17.28 | hyperChipmunk | I'm poor in Detroit |
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06:18.35 | Nemes_ | ckknight... you around? |
06:18.40 | ckknight | yea |
06:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: detroit? my sincerest condolances. :P |
06:19.00 | Nemes_ | woot... I was going to code a small enhancement for PitBull... tell me what you think |
06:19.30 | hyperChipmunk | he thinks you're a loser and an idiot |
06:19.37 | Nemes_ | I was going to add a buff highlight option to highlight only buffs you cast - that way druids and priests can keep track of their own HOTs |
06:19.58 | ckknight | Nemes_: okay |
06:20.10 | Nemes_ | how do you want it - send you a diff file? |
06:20.31 | KarlThePagan | I wonder what potential exists for synergy between aloft and pitbull modules |
06:20.33 | ckknight | that'd owrk |
06:20.34 | ckknight | work* |
06:20.45 | ckknight | Nemes_: put it in ace.pastey.net |
06:21.11 | Nemes_ | ah sweet... never seen that before |
06:21.51 | hyperChipmunk | probably because you're a loser and an idiot |
06:21.57 | ckknight | don't be like that, hyperChipmunk |
06:22.07 | hyperChipmunk | shut up, loser |
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06:22.31 | ckknight | play nice. |
06:22.39 | Funkeh` | i think you both suck |
06:22.41 | Funkeh` | noobs |
06:22.42 | hyperChipmunk | hey i have botmail |
06:22.43 | KarlThePagan | kek |
06:22.49 | hyperChipmunk | i would not have known |
06:22.50 | [Liquidor] | :O I was only gone for 75 secs and then there's drama :(( |
06:23.01 | KarlThePagan | too bad it'll be over soon |
06:23.02 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
06:23.07 | hyperChipmunk | it's from sedatedChipmunk |
06:23.15 | ckknight | ? |
06:23.15 | hyperChipmunk | he says, 'Zzzzzzzzz' |
06:23.19 | ckknight | lol. |
06:24.02 | hyperChipmunk | quite appropriate, too |
06:24.09 | hyperChipmunk | since it was exactly what i was thinking |
06:24.14 | hyperChipmunk | g'night folks |
06:24.29 | Antiarc | ckknight: Setting the unit anchor to the top left anchors it to the top of the actual anchor |
06:24.40 | Antiarc | So I position the anchor and the tooltip is setpoint'd to the top, not the topleft |
06:24.47 | ckknight | odd. |
06:25.02 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41362 10SpellEventsLib/libs/: SpellEventsLib: another attempt to fix externals. |
06:25.07 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: you're still gonna be around for like 3 hours, aren't you? |
06:25.21 | sedatedChipmunk | probably >8P |
06:25.55 | Funkeh` | WAU has a total of 390053 downloads |
06:26.27 | ZealotOnAStick | which version, though. |
06:26.36 | ZealotOnAStick | There was one day last week that had like 3 versions on one day. |
06:26.48 | ZealotOnAStick | or maybe about 2 weeks ago. |
06:26.56 | Funkeh` | downloads ever |
06:27.26 | Kaelten | my best guestimate says we have ~200k users |
06:27.29 | Kaelten | 150-200k |
06:27.54 | Funkeh` | omen will boost that dramatically |
06:27.58 | syeren | By far the most popular WoW website, it went for a reported $100,000, with Bill (Thott) hired at a $100,000/year salary. Not only did this give IGE the most trafficked MMO site on the internet, it also gave it a lot of leverage against Blizzard. |
06:27.58 | KarlThePagan | I will put in some serious time on wau2 stability this weekend |
06:28.00 | Funkeh` | hf next patch day |
06:28.48 | KarlThePagan | yarly |
06:29.06 | Funkeh` | KarlThePagan: ya integrating the 1.x features into 2.x ? |
06:29.32 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Ping |
06:29.35 | sedatedChipmunk | syeren: which is, of course, a load of crap. Blizzard owns WoW in its entirety. |
06:29.36 | KarlThePagan | well it's multithreaded already |
06:29.40 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Pong. |
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06:29.47 | Antiarc | I did Netherspite with 310 hit tonight |
06:29.48 | Antiarc | Nary a miss |
06:29.55 | Antiarc | 5% combat talents + 310 hit |
06:30.01 | Antiarc | So there's a data point |
06:30.10 | KarlThePagan | and it has changelog support that just needs a front-end |
06:30.17 | Funkeh` | KarlThePagan: and i guess the fact im downloading for 2min every time i open it is it auto updating? |
06:30.33 | Funkeh` | KarlThePagan: i meant more of unpacking files, blanking embeds/modules.xml etc |
06:31.13 | KarlThePagan | Funkeh`, yes currently support filelist.wau, migrating to .wau and embeds/modules.xml |
06:31.41 | KarlThePagan | and that few minutes of updating is keeping itself up to date yea |
06:32.02 | Funkeh` | just wondering because i close it right now, and open it again it takes another 2min |
06:32.04 | KarlThePagan | i hope to get a better update mechanism implemented after stability and java 5 support are fixed |
06:32.11 | KarlThePagan | yea :/ |
06:32.25 | sedatedChipmunk | get off the 28.8K |
06:32.26 | Funkeh` | im hoping thats not being pumped through wowace |
06:32.38 | Funkeh` | sedatedChipmunk: go to sleep, im on 8mb |
06:32.49 | KarlThePagan | it is, but it's only checking html headers of a few files |
06:33.19 | KarlThePagan | err HTTP headers |
06:35.11 | CIA-22 | 03miyu * r41363 10Postal/Locales/zhTW.lua: Postal: - Update zhTW locale file |
06:36.08 | Funkeh` | ffs |
06:36.19 | Funkeh` | why do they clear the cache files when they update the launched |
06:36.24 | Funkeh` | launcher* |
06:36.26 | Funkeh` | idiots |
06:36.29 | Antiarc | I'm very, very happy with how Threat performed tonight |
06:36.32 | Antiarc | Extremely happy. |
06:36.49 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: its auto updating in game? |
06:36.54 | Antiarc | eh? |
06:37.06 | Funkeh` | that would make me extremely happy! |
06:37.11 | Antiarc | My fixes from last night seemed to have addressed the majority of the outstanding issues |
06:37.29 | Funkeh` | orly |
06:37.46 | Funkeh` | don't worry ill have a nice big batch of errors for you later |
06:39.14 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: did you fix the % overlapping threat problem in omen? |
06:40.37 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41364 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Consolidate the threat list update code. |
06:41.14 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: oh and remove the guild version query code =) |
06:41.33 | Kirkburn | Btw, if people start going on about the Wowhead thing, link them http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14235 |
06:41.38 | Antiarc | No, not yet, and okay :P |
06:41.50 | Peoii | I actually like the version query. |
06:42.02 | Peoii | keeps us all running on the same page ;) |
06:42.21 | Funkeh` | Peoii: hes not removing the version query |
06:42.26 | Peoii | quite a few people in the guild have been using threat, and it's shown more reliable than KTM in a couple fights for us. |
06:42.56 | Funkeh` | Peoii: basically it should use the whisper channel not the guild channel, it means less spam |
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06:44.11 | Funkeh` | Peoii: for example if you log on right now your threat says 'hi' in guild and everyone else replys 'hi' in guild, its being changed so that everyone else says 'hi' back in whisper |
06:44.58 | Peoii | Funkeh`: Thanks for getting indepth, but I understood from the get-go ;) I was just saying I liked it. |
06:45.18 | Funkeh` | bleh |
06:45.30 | Peoii | lol, it's ok ;) |
06:45.53 | Peoii | I work with people every day who do the same thing. Don't worry mate. |
06:47.27 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r41365 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.de.lua Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua): |
06:47.27 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
06:47.27 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
06:47.27 | CIA-22 | - German update |
06:49.25 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41366 10Omen/ (DefaultSkins.lua OmenDisplay.lua OmenThreatBar.lua): Omen: Fixed a few visual problems. Fixed an excess bar creation. |
06:52.37 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41367 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): |
06:52.37 | CIA-22 | Recount - Improvements to memory usage on graph window (still high per operation for stacked graphs but thats due to how the math is being done) |
06:52.37 | CIA-22 | -When you add all the combatants at once for comparison to the graph window should be faster and less memory consuming |
06:54.37 | ckknight | Peoii: you see, the version query is _not_ going to be removed. |
06:54.54 | Funkeh` | ckknight: lol |
06:54.56 | Antiarc | A backwards-compatible more spammy query is being removed |
06:55.01 | syeren | I thought you was going to bed two hours ago ckknight :P? |
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06:55.13 | ckknight | ...no |
06:55.16 | Funkeh` | that was mr chipmunk |
06:55.18 | ckknight | it's only like 9 PM |
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06:55.45 | syeren | Ah, you said "I'm on my bed." |
06:55.51 | syeren | Not "I'm going to bed." |
06:55.52 | syeren | :p |
06:56.05 | Funkeh` | hes inviting you, syeren |
06:56.26 | ckknight | lol |
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07:01.50 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r41368 10/tags/KC_Items/: |
07:01.50 | CIA-22 | KC_Items: |
07:01.50 | CIA-22 | - Created folder remotely |
07:02.09 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten 070.x * r41369 10KC_Items/: |
07:02.09 | CIA-22 | KC_Items: |
07:02.09 | CIA-22 | - Tagging |
07:03.03 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r41370 10KC_Items/ (18 files in 14 dirs): |
07:03.03 | CIA-22 | KC_Items: |
07:03.03 | CIA-22 | - Deleting Trunk |
07:04.27 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r41371 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
07:04.27 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
07:04.27 | CIA-22 | -- Fiery Warhorse's Reins (30480), Banishing Crystal (32696) |
07:04.42 | Thrae | Kaelten_: "Deleting Trunk" is a scary message for Wowace SVN! |
07:04.51 | Kaelten_ | lol |
07:05.10 | Thrae | Are you abandoning KC_Items? |
07:05.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41372 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - move away from the awkward Dewdrop way to set lines and use a custom config box. |
07:05.27 | Kaelten_ | no |
07:06.00 | Thrae | Ahh, now I see it |
07:06.01 | ckknight | Antiarc: test |
07:06.09 | Kaelten_ | hrm |
07:06.15 | Kaelten_ | I have this part never can get it tow rok right |
07:06.15 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41373 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Measure gain overheal on the recipient, not on ourselves. Should fix all discrepancies in VT threat! \o/ |
07:06.17 | Antiarc | Pong |
07:06.20 | Antiarc | Oh, ok |
07:06.36 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41374 10BankList/BankList.lua: BankList: increased the time between item queries to avoid disconnection. |
07:07.25 | Peoii | anyone have an SS with the latest Bigwigs showing it in action (ie: active bars/etc) |
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07:08.31 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41375 10CastYeller/ (CastYeller.toc announces/rogue.lua): |
07:08.31 | CIA-22 | CastYeller: |
07:08.31 | CIA-22 | - CastYeller can be load-managed by AddonLoader (load on party), |
07:08.31 | CIA-22 | - added enUS rogue announces, thanks to Mylar@Medivh-US. |
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07:14.49 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41376 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: tweaks |
07:15.52 | Funkeh` | Peoii: just load it and hit test bars |
07:16.33 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r41377 10KC_Items/ (16 files in 7 dirs): |
07:16.33 | CIA-22 | KC_Items: |
07:16.33 | CIA-22 | - Replacing Trunk with Ace2 branch |
07:16.50 | Funkeh` | Kaelten_: awesomeness |
07:17.02 | Kaelten_ | still lots of work to do :) |
07:17.32 | Antiarc | Kaelten_: Any progress on that mod traffic page? ;) |
07:17.53 | ckknight | ooh, Ace2? keeping up with all the new trends, I see |
07:17.56 | ckknight | :-P |
07:18.13 | Kaelten_ | Antiarc: to give any meaningful results I'm going to have to write a custom parser |
07:18.21 | Kaelten_ | not complicated just havn't taken the time to do it yet |
07:18.57 | Antiarc | If you want to give me the specs I'll whip one together in python or ruby |
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07:22.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41378 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - properly wrap the business code in :Evaluate in a pcall |
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07:27.15 | theoddone33 | http://woodgears.ca/marbleadd/index.html that is ridiculously interesting |
07:27.22 | theoddone33 | moreso for programmer types I imagine |
07:28.28 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41379 10BankList/BankList.lua: BankList: bugfix. |
07:29.52 | Kirkburn | A mod traffic page? But what about those downloads I could have added to my count from the last few months?? :( Maybe I should just theorise that I've had 1 million downloads ;) |
07:30.09 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41380 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua Threat-1.0.xml ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua): |
07:30.09 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
07:30.09 | CIA-22 | - KLHTM support moved to its own file, |
07:30.09 | CIA-22 | - catch and remember versionresponses, |
07:30.09 | CIA-22 | - added KLHTM methods for: setting/clearing master target, querying versions. |
07:30.10 | CIA-22 | - added KLHTM related events. |
07:30.46 | ckknight | very cool, theoddone33 |
07:31.27 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41381 10ThreatToKTM/ (ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc): |
07:31.27 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
07:31.27 | CIA-22 | - updated for latest ThreatLib changes (r41380), |
07:31.27 | CIA-22 | - display KLHTM & ThreatLib versions in tooltip again. |
07:31.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41382 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - hacky bugfix |
07:32.26 | Adirelle | anyone tested misdirection in a mixed KTM/ThreatLib environment ? |
07:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010662.html |
07:32.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41383 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - make it so that if you have code on the left and code on the right, it will show even if one is not shown, e.g. [Name] / [Target] will show even if [Target] is blank. |
07:37.07 | Tupsi | [2007/06/23 09:35:34-1137-x1]: CowTip\CowTip.lua:733: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 690) near 'other' |
07:37.07 | Tupsi | <PROTECTED> |
07:39.05 | theoddone33 | what's this new questgiver next to the flight guy in shatt for? |
07:39.12 | theoddone33 | I flew away before I noticed him :( |
07:41.17 | Tupsi | ah you already fixed that nm |
07:42.37 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: skettis quest line |
07:42.51 | theoddone33 | hm not that guy |
07:43.00 | NightHawkTheSane | then i have no idea |
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07:43.08 | theoddone33 | I'll head back there |
07:43.49 | theoddone33 | I have paladin warp speed anyway |
07:43.56 | NightHawkTheSane | it took me a while to even realize the skettis quest npc was there, as I never visit flight masters anymore |
07:44.31 | theoddone33 | ah what a letdown |
07:44.35 | theoddone33 | festival of the flame guys |
07:44.49 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, really? neat. ill have to check that out |
07:45.07 | theoddone33 | yeah |
07:45.10 | theoddone33 | probably good xp |
07:45.27 | theoddone33 | I normally don't go for seasonal quests |
07:45.31 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i dont care about xp, i just love the seasonal stuff. |
07:45.46 | theoddone33 | I need all the xp I can get |
07:45.55 | theoddone33 | I got so sick of leveling that I ran up 150% rested :( |
07:46.08 | FISKER_Q | ~congratulate [Ammo] |
07:46.17 | purl | ACTION congratulates [Ammo] on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
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07:49.45 | [Ammo] | euh? |
07:56.46 | Gnarfoz | no xp at all, I guess |
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07:56.57 | Gnarfoz | the festival quests are marked as level 1 |
07:57.13 | Gnarfoz | or 60? |
07:57.14 | Gnarfoz | hm |
07:57.17 | art3mis | that marble calc is pretty cool |
07:57.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah 60. |
07:57.21 | Gnarfoz | whatever |
07:57.25 | Wobin | 60 |
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07:57.48 | Gnarfoz | I must have mixed that up with them fixing the moon festival quest :D |
07:58.23 | Gnarfoz | that gave ~5k exp, and was doable even by level 1 characters... got me from level 5 right to level 10 |
07:58.26 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
07:58.37 | art3mis | wheres the one in azshara? |
07:58.44 | art3mis | i seem to have fergotten where they all are |
07:59.12 | FISKER_Q | anyone know about cowtip? |
07:59.20 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: near 41,43 i believe |
07:59.27 | NightHawkTheSane | FISKER_Q: tooltip mod, uses dogtag. |
07:59.38 | FISKER_Q | sure know that |
07:59.55 | FISKER_Q | but "unit frame tooltip" and "unit tooltip" |
08:00.04 | FISKER_Q | unit tooltip is the players on the gamearea itself right? |
08:00.11 | FISKER_Q | when i mouse over their model |
08:00.15 | NightHawkTheSane | I would assume so, yes |
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08:04.13 | Funkeh` | later folks |
08:07.28 | Iceroth | okay, does anyone know any addons besides PersolanSentry that would show additional information in minimap tooltips when Track Humanoids is active? |
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08:09.53 | [Ammo] | ping Mikk |
08:10.00 | Fin | ~seen damjau |
08:10.21 | purl | damjau <i=________@58.77.154.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 236d 1h 25m 2s ago, saying: 'sorry... TT'. |
08:10.21 | Sukutae | lol I need help, anyone here good with WAU? by that I mean you're not a nub like me :P |
08:10.41 | Fin | woah, had to think about that one eh purl |
08:10.58 | [Liquidor] | Sukutae: you mark the addons you want... click Update/Install Marked addons... Done |
08:11.13 | Antiarc | Kaelten gave me a logfile, but it's all from the same IP.. |
08:11.16 | Sukutae | rolf... got that much... but I'm getting a 0 parsing error |
08:11.22 | Sukutae | rofl rather :P |
08:11.25 | [Liquidor] | Sukutae: #wau |
08:11.48 | Sukutae | on it |
08:14.03 | Sukutae | thx liquidor :) |
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08:15.06 | Dhirmadi | good morning all |
08:15.54 | Dhirmadi | i was wondering, anyone know something about item tool tips, i.e displaying the stats when you move over it with your mouse? |
08:16.01 | theoddone33 | huh |
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08:16.08 | theoddone33 | gold spammers are now trying proper grammar and politeness |
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08:16.34 | Dhirmadi | proper customer service? |
08:17.28 | starlon | I saw one gold spammer's url obfuscated by WoW |
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08:17.32 | theoddone33 | "sorry to bother, I just wonder if you want to buy some gold, I won't message you again if not" |
08:18.09 | Dhirmadi | very nice :) |
08:18.37 | Dhirmadi | so anyone and pointes on how to put the itemlink into a fontstring so it shows the item stats on mouseover? |
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08:20.30 | Sukutae | lol wish I knew my code that well... I can't even get any help on this zero parsing error :( |
08:24.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41384 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - make the default tooltip backgrounds darker |
08:24.40 | Dhirmadi | zero parsin error? |
08:24.49 | Sukutae | one sec and I'll link the exact error |
08:25.19 | Sukutae | Version Check...Error |
08:25.21 | Sukutae | Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: The underlying connection was closed: The connection was closed unexpectedly. |
08:25.22 | Sukutae | <PROTECTED> |
08:25.24 | Sukutae | <PROTECTED> |
08:25.26 | Sukutae | <PROTECTED> |
08:25.28 | Sukutae | Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: The underlying connection was closed: The connection was closed unexpectedly. |
08:25.29 | Sukutae | <PROTECTED> |
08:25.31 | Sukutae | <PROTECTED> |
08:25.32 | Sukutae | <PROTECTED> |
08:25.34 | Sukutae | Parsing 0 Entries In The Index File...Complete |
08:25.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
08:26.00 | NightHawkTheSane | If you're pasting more than ~2 lines, use some kind of pastebin site. |
08:26.00 | NightHawkTheSane | don't freaking spam irc. |
08:26.03 | [Liquidor] | heh |
08:26.20 | Sukutae | srry... didn't mean to spam or anything,,, I've just been to more than 10 channels and have gotten nothing |
08:26.22 | [Liquidor] | btw did US realms have rerolls last night? |
08:26.33 | Kirkburn|away | Sukutae, #wau for WAU stuff |
08:26.43 | [Liquidor] | already posted that Kirkburn|away |
08:26.48 | Kirkburn|away | So I see :P |
08:26.51 | Sukutae | I did.... there's only 2 ppl there and no one helped |
08:26.52 | [Liquidor] | He's even in the channel |
08:26.53 | Kirkburn|away | Check your firewall, Sukutae |
08:27.08 | Sukutae | kk sec |
08:27.17 | Kirkburn|away | Every time you get a new version, it will likely need resetting |
08:28.10 | Kirkburn|away | Failing that, try the other mirror from the list |
08:28.45 | Sukutae | tried both... same error :( |
08:28.56 | Dhirmadi | hmm now that more folks are awake, anyone pointing me into a direction, how to display item inforation on mouseover? |
08:29.06 | syeren | Wow. |
08:29.11 | syeren | How fucking dumb do IGE think people are. |
08:29.12 | syeren | News travels fast! We were hoping to have the time to put together a proper announcement about this, but it appears word is already out, so we wanted to acknowledge it: now that IGE is out of the picture, Wowhead has decided to become a part of the ZAM Network. We'll post a lot more information later today. Stay tuned! |
08:29.27 | syeren | And guess who ZAM Network are and funded by, IGE. |
08:29.42 | syeren | ckknight, there's the announcement ;p |
08:30.03 | ckknight | lame |
08:30.12 | theoddone33 | I wonder how much it takes to buy wow head |
08:30.26 | ckknight | 1.2mil |
08:30.38 | Kirkburn|away | syeren, no, they aren't |
08:30.48 | theoddone33 | it just had to be a number out of my budget didn't it |
08:30.49 | Adirelle | Antiarc: I've got some trouble with omen and aggroHolder |
08:30.53 | syeren | http://www.zam.com/ |
08:30.55 | Antiarc | oh? |
08:30.59 | Kirkburn|away | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Wowhead#.23Ownership |
08:31.11 | syeren | http://wow.azzor.com/445/truth_about_IGE.php |
08:31.14 | Kirkburn|away | Yes, IGE is not part of the Affinity network any more |
08:31.17 | Adirelle | http://ace.pastey.net/62895 |
08:31.20 | FISKER_Q | syeren they just got sold off |
08:31.21 | Kirkburn|away | That info is old, read up on what I linked |
08:31.32 | FISKER_Q | so it's not goldfarmers anymore |
08:32.23 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
08:32.26 | Antiarc | Lemme look into it |
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08:32.40 | Dhirmadi | hmm aside from the HOT topic of goldfarmers, anyone able to point me somehwre where i can read up on how to display item information based on the item link? |
08:33.03 | ckknight | Dhirmadi: wowwiki? |
08:33.11 | FISKER_Q | but man |
08:33.16 | FISKER_Q | 1 million dollars |
08:33.25 | FISKER_Q | i'm gonna be begging skosiris for money all day long |
08:33.26 | syeren | Antiarc, IGE have tried to disassociate themselves from the core so many times. |
08:33.35 | syeren | Look at the story behind what Yantis did with his original site. |
08:33.35 | syeren | ;p |
08:34.13 | Kirkburn|away | Everyone involved with IGE and Affinity are saying they are no longer related |
08:34.19 | Dhirmadi | not found anything solid there :( |
08:34.34 | Sukutae | is there any other servers other than http://files.wowace.com/ or http://svn.wowace.com/ or am I inputting them wrong? |
08:34.40 | syeren | You can't ever find any solid information on any of the companies :/ |
08:34.49 | syeren | That's the big problem, you can just find their sites :P |
08:35.16 | Kirkburn|away | Did you read that Gamasutra article? |
08:36.02 | Kirkburn|away | It's about the most in-depth we'll ever get |
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08:36.54 | NightHawkTheSane | shouldn't that all be public knowledge, anyway? |
08:37.14 | Dhirmadi | the examples shows there CK always refrain to a chat windo. i am putting the itemlink into a fontstring... not finding any example ther |
08:37.35 | Kirkburn|away | Dunno, the business's are private |
08:37.41 | ckknight | Dhirmadi: make a tooltip |
08:37.50 | ckknight | Dhirmadi: then you want to do :SetItemLink(string) |
08:37.58 | ckknight | then mess with said tooltip |
08:37.58 | syeren | Some nice spin indeed Kirkburn|away ;) |
08:38.00 | ckknight | and such. |
08:38.03 | Adirelle | hmm... is there an addon that enables Blizzard's 'low life' glowing frame ? |
08:38.11 | Kirkburn|away | syeren, oh shush :P |
08:38.20 | Dhirmadi | hmmm ok.. then let me find information on how to create a tooltip |
08:38.53 | Adirelle | there is something in my addon that does this, but I can't see which |
08:39.07 | Adirelle | and I don't know what triggers it either |
08:40.02 | Dhirmadi | oglow? |
08:40.09 | syeren | Kirkburn|away, as I am sure you are well aware, that company is far too shady to just take what some executive says as truth :) |
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08:40.30 | Kirkburn|away | Or what the owners of Alla, Wowhead, Wowinterface or others say |
08:41.07 | syeren | They're owned by him ;) |
08:41.30 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* if you're being cynical, they're basically just shills who either are lied to or lying. |
08:41.33 | Kirkburn|away | Well, naturally everyone would then of course lie |
08:41.38 | Antiarc | Adirelle: If you're talking about Omen, it's the warnings |
08:41.53 | Antiarc | If you cross 90% of your tank's threat by default, Omen flashes the warning frame |
08:42.02 | Adirelle | oh |
08:42.03 | Antiarc | That's all configurable, and it can play a sound too |
08:42.04 | Adirelle | that's it |
08:42.14 | Adirelle | didn't remember I enabled it |
08:42.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn|away: not eveyrone. I'd believe a credible 3rd party, or publicly available official documents |
08:42.35 | Antiarc | It's on by default |
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08:42.43 | Kirkburn|away | You think he lied to Gamasutra? |
08:43.06 | Adirelle | that could be what causes the error btws |
08:43.23 | Sukutae_ | :'(... I give up :( |
08:43.25 | syeren | The thing that leads me to this disposistion is how hard to find it is to find information on such a huge company. |
08:43.46 | [Liquidor] | But what do you need such information for? |
08:43.50 | syeren | Especially one of which earns the majority of it's money on the internet. |
08:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn|away: It's possible, and reasonable. why wouldn't he? |
08:44.55 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/wowace/20070613.html |
08:44.58 | syeren | Kirkburn|away: http://www.f13.net/index.php?catid=14 |
08:45.03 | syeren | more information :D |
08:45.50 | Firik | are those download numbers correct? |
08:46.05 | Antiarc | Parsed straight from the wowace logs |
08:46.11 | Kirkburn|away | syeren, which supports what I said? |
08:46.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn|away: to be sure, i'm not saying i believe one way or another, merely that I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that involved parties may have lied *shrug* |
08:46.20 | Antiarc | Kaelten gave me server logs :) |
08:46.26 | Kirkburn|away | That Affinity, which now owns Wowhead is NOT in the gold selling business |
08:46.28 | Firik | nice |
08:46.53 | Kirkburn|away | Woo, 18th |
08:47.16 | [Ammo] | woot 2nd and 4th :) |
08:47.28 | Kirkburn|away | Woo, you totally had an update on that day, woo |
08:47.42 | [Liquidor] | 1397.littleWigs1 |
08:47.49 | [Liquidor] | giggle |
08:47.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: are those unique visitors or just total file accesses? |
08:47.59 | syeren | Wow, Jonathan Yantis is hid very well. |
08:48.14 | syeren | And why would Affinity Media sell of it's biggest grossing division O_o; |
08:48.17 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Total file accesses - it looks like everything is behind a load balancer or something because every entry in the log has the same IP :x |
08:48.32 | Kirkburn|away | syeren, so now you're disbelieving /everything/ you read? :P |
08:48.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: doh. >< in that case, those numbers are... not quite as useful :P |
08:48.42 | Kirkburn|away | But yes, I do think it's odd they sold |
08:48.51 | Antiarc | No, not so much. |
08:48.53 | Kirkburn|away | I guess they had a very good offer, and that they wanted to improve their image |
08:49.00 | syeren | No, just reading up on the history of this company Kirkburn|away doesn't make me the easiest person to convince ;p |
08:49.17 | [Liquidor] | Although I drool over 1$ million for a web community, I don't get why they would sell WoWHead just like that... and then for 1$ million only? |
08:49.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: though still interesting.. |
08:49.26 | NightHawkTheSane | decyrsuve at 17, eh... hmm |
08:49.39 | Kirkburn|away | syeren, fair cop :) |
08:49.42 | Adirelle | btw, is ThreatLib horriblely broken ? |
08:49.49 | Antiarc | No, why? |
08:49.55 | Antiarc | It was performing very well for me tonight |
08:50.15 | Kirkburn|away | Adirelle, wonderfully specific bug report, that ;) |
08:50.33 | Dhirmadi | anti you sure? omen and tl where really dissagreeing with eachother last night on prince for me |
08:50.34 | Adirelle | I meant since I commited a big change ? |
08:50.44 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Oh, no, haven't tested it |
08:50.49 | Antiarc | Dhirmadi: I made major changes last night |
08:50.52 | Dhirmadi | but no eeeor, hence no bug :) |
08:51.13 | Dhirmadi | anti, in that casei look forad testing it again tonight and will provide any error i may find |
08:51.13 | Adirelle | I'm testing it since yesterday... but we never know :p |
08:51.19 | Kirkburn|away | Adirelle, how was I supposed to know :( I thought only the British self-deprecated |
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08:52.17 | Adirelle | "I thought only the British self-deprecated" ??? |
08:52.17 | Roartindon | MikkZzz: ping |
08:53.00 | Kirkburn|away | Made sense to me :) |
08:53.02 | Kirkburn|away | Anyway, I'm off |
08:53.05 | Kirkburn|away | Bb 2moro |
08:53.07 | [Ammo] | Roartindon: trying to find mikk as well :p |
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08:54.24 | Antiarc | Dhirmadi: What class do you play? |
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08:59.16 | Dhirmadi | anti: huntard |
09:04.46 | loonacy | Sorry for the newb question: I have self.Button1 which is a protected button that casts a spell when clicked, and I have a keybinding set up... How would I make the keybinding trigger the button? |
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09:13.02 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/wowace/june.html |
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09:14.51 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Is it about dewdrop? |
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09:17.38 | [Ammo] | Roartindon: well ckknight reverted mikk's changes |
09:17.46 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: ah, I didn't realise |
09:17.58 | [Ammo] | which kinda sucks |
09:18.12 | [Ammo] | but just use r41317 of dewdrop and it works fine, unless you use pitbull shrug |
09:18.15 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Well, all I know is that there was a version I tried a few hours ago, that wasn't passing in passValue |
09:18.46 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: to my get() methods for text types, with validates |
09:19.13 | [Ammo] | that mgith be a bug by mikk |
09:19.23 | [Ammo] | ckknight reverted that |
09:19.27 | Roartindon | ah |
09:19.34 | [Ammo] | so it should be ok again, apart from violation which is broken now |
09:19.51 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: d'oh.. |
09:20.03 | Roartindon | I gotta spend some time |
09:20.12 | Roartindon | and figure out which Ace addon is causing Ace2 library to grow by 32Mb |
09:20.17 | Roartindon | after my day's raid in SSC |
09:20.54 | [Ammo] | nice |
09:21.01 | [Ammo] | I've never seen that happen |
09:21.06 | [Ammo] | so it must be something you're using and I'm not :) |
09:21.13 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Must be :) |
09:21.23 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: do you use Pitbull? |
09:21.42 | [Ammo] | nope I don't |
09:21.45 | Roartindon | Expo showed it using > 1MB after 3 minutes for just UpdateAllMenu... but, that's getting allocated to Ace2 |
09:22.17 | [Ammo] | I use agUF because I don't need anything that pitbull has to offer |
09:25.04 | Adirelle | ckknight: any chance that cowtip config gets reset regulary (like pitbull's one) ? |
09:25.16 | ckknight | Adirelle: no, not really |
09:25.20 | ckknight | well, as I add new features |
09:25.22 | ckknight | clearly. |
09:26.17 | nevcairiel | does anyone know what the launcher update was for? |
09:31.04 | omega_ | not related to the armoured nether drakes? |
09:31.12 | nevcairiel | hahaha theyve tried to fix the problem with people not receiving their nether drake .. and now i got a second one in mail =P |
09:31.52 | nevcairiel | oh, they removed my previous one from my inventory |
09:31.54 | nevcairiel | oh well |
09:31.58 | omega_ | As a result of this update, we will first remove all Armoured Nether Drake mounts, after which we will resend Armoured Nether Drake mounts to only those players who should have received them. |
09:32.39 | omega_ | they where aparently handing them out to everyone |
09:32.50 | nevcairiel | ah. |
09:32.56 | nevcairiel | and i wondered why that one team got them |
09:33.26 | Antiarc | Man, parsing one week of wowace logs takes like 15 mintues |
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09:38.11 | Adirelle | lol, the new cowtip editing stuff is quite ... huge :p |
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09:44.55 | ckknight | Adirelle: but easier to work with :-P |
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09:56.23 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r41385 10MountMe/Core.lua: MountMe - show flight speed in Flight Form/Swift Flight Form |
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09:59.04 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r41386 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
09:59.04 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
09:59.04 | CIA-22 | - BS: translated Seethe into Sieden in deDE to stop Omen error about missing translation. If it's wrong then change it since there i no reference to find about this Spell in deDE |
10:00.00 | Mikk | Fuck's sake.. I thought I tested all the dewdrop combos in existance |
10:03.40 | ckknight | Mikk: PitBull's portrait dealy messed up |
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10:05.10 | Mikk | then again, ctrl+fing through the getMethod() and callMethod() calls, I clearly see I was having a bad coding day yesterday |
10:05.18 | Mikk | missed passValue in 2! places |
10:05.44 | Mikk | ckknight: portrait delay is a .... slider? |
10:06.14 | Mikk | or a multitext? |
10:06.24 | ckknight | text w/ table validate |
10:06.27 | Mikk | ah ok |
10:06.32 | Mikk | yeah that'd bork just fine |
10:06.32 | ckknight | I believe |
10:06.48 | Mikk | validate is what i fixed now |
10:12.36 | Mikk | and get |
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10:12.55 | Mikk | must be the get called that messed you over then |
10:13.02 | Mikk | call* |
10:14.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41387 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix x-offset setter for RIGHT and BOTTOM positions. |
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10:19.03 | Dustwhisper | What's a nice way to check if you are in a party? GetNumPartyMembers > 0 or something? |
10:19.53 | Dhirmadi | hey folks, any of you available to give me a hadn with GameTooltip and XML Templates? |
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10:22.16 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41388 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
10:22.16 | CIA-22 | DewdropLib: Fix my borked commit from yesterday. Sigh. I really thought I tested the whole slew of cases... |
10:22.16 | CIA-22 | - Text with table validate "get" methods will now properly pass passValue |
10:22.16 | CIA-22 | - Text "validate" methods will now properly pass passValue |
10:22.16 | CIA-22 | My apologies. Bad coding day yesterday apparently >.< |
10:22.48 | Adirelle | ckknight: cowtip doesn't like empty line follwing by a text only on right light |
10:23.05 | Adirelle | (notice that the tag resolves to empty, lines are not really empty) |
10:23.51 | ckknight | hrm... |
10:23.59 | Nemes_ | dustwhisper: use UnitPlayerOrPetInParty |
10:24.27 | Nemes_ | UnitInParty is dodgey - returns true if you call it for "player" even if you're not in a party |
10:25.18 | Dustwhisper | ok cool thanks |
10:25.18 | Adirelle | ckknight: well... it just doesn't like having the left text empty, that fuck up alignment |
10:26.41 | Dhirmadi | anyone know, ca you use <scirpts> inside the <FontString> element? |
10:27.45 | Nemes_ | Dhir... this isn't in answer to your question, but if you need generic tooltip advice, have you looked at cknight's CowTip, TinyTip and others like Gymnast? |
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10:29.02 | Dhirmadi | Nemes: i have not. perhaps you can advise me on which to use best. i an showing the itemlink in a front string andn want to user to see the item details when he does a mouse over. |
10:29.24 | Dhirmadi | nemes_: which of your proposals would do that best (if i don;t need to fiddle with XML even better) :) |
10:29.25 | Dustwhisper | is there any event that happens when all addons are finished loading? |
10:29.37 | Nemes_ | Dhir: do you have a method to retrieve item details? |
10:29.47 | Dhirmadi | i have the itemlink info yes |
10:30.00 | Nemes_ | OK, copy what CowTip does when it is customising the tooltip |
10:30.06 | Dhirmadi | Dust: did you check the events listings on wowwiki? |
10:31.02 | Dhirmadi | nemes: will it not interfere with the existing XML template? |
10:31.11 | Nemes_ | use acehooks |
10:31.17 | Nemes_ | and use safehooks ;-) |
10:31.44 | Nemes_ | safe hooks will allow the standard UI stuff to execute, then you execute your stuff |
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10:32.05 | sbu | morning |
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10:33.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41389 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added Realm tag. |
10:34.27 | Dhirmadi | Nemes_: you jsut wetn right over my head :) |
10:35.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41390 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - bugfix if you're not watching a faction. |
10:35.19 | Nemes_ | Dhir: have a look at some other addons, and read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHooks_Examples to see how to hook standard UI stuff without interfering too much with it |
10:36.02 | Dhirmadi | and all i wanted to do is display the item stats in a frame :) |
10:36.36 | Nemes_ | maybe ratingbuster does what you want... |
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10:37.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41391 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added alias NameRealm = "[Name][Realm:Prefix(-)]" |
10:37.44 | Dhirmadi | i have a list of items, showing as a text, each one as it's itemlink so [hammer of Doom] and all that |
10:38.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41392 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - show name and realm, not just name. |
10:38.29 | Dhirmadi | it is defined as a fontstring in my XML file. when i mouseover the work i want to display the item information, same as when you do it in a looting windows and all that |
10:39.03 | Nemes_ | unfortunately you're beyond my level of knowledge now... I'm just suggesting generic methods of finding out the information you are after... |
10:40.00 | Dhirmadi | gues we're at the same stage then... |
10:40.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41393 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - unfinished strings are bad. |
10:40.13 | Dhirmadi | unfortunately these days most folks work with the lua based version of frames... |
10:40.31 | Nemes_ | When I have no idea how to build something, I usually look at similar exisiting code and figure it out from there |
10:40.56 | Dhirmadi | that is what i am trying.. unfortunately non available as everyone uses lua based frames these days |
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10:43.07 | ckknight | http://bash.org/?772559 |
10:43.39 | Nemes_ | I'd laugh if it didn't expose my horridgeekiness |
10:44.06 | ckknight | http://bash.org/?772439 |
10:46.13 | ckknight | http://bash.org/?772437 |
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10:46.26 | Dustwhisper | i dont get that joke |
10:46.32 | Dustwhisper | probably cause i think LOTR is utter shit |
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10:47.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41394 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - try a bugfix |
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10:59.40 | Dhirmadi | posted my question on the forum, perhapssomeone has time to look at it at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6925.0 |
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11:04.50 | sbu | ckknight: "Prefix" Unkown modifier or tag |
11:05.52 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41395 10Assessment/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
11:05.52 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
11:05.52 | CIA-22 | - Removed all of the temporary closures created |
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11:14.34 | FtH|Daemona | hmmm ckknight is there a way to access MH/OH weaponspeed and display it on the players pitbull UF? |
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11:14.58 | Nemes_ | sounds like a job for DogTag |
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11:20.40 | ravagernl | Anyone working on cart right now? was thinking of a lock to zone checkbox because it keeps resetting to the zone you enter when zoning |
11:21.15 | ravagernl | lets say i want to look at steamvaults map but im flying to zang and it changes to zangramash, very annoying |
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11:34.49 | pb_ee1 | Dhirmadi: You must create your own tooltip and use the tooltip's functions to populate it |
11:35.29 | Dhirmadi | pb: thanks for the pointer, i;ve no doe this, still the tool tip does not show when i mouseover the text, let me update the post though |
11:35.41 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41399 10ThreatToKTM/ (FuBarPlugin.lua ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc): |
11:35.41 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
11:35.41 | CIA-22 | - inform player of target setting, |
11:35.41 | CIA-22 | - fixed a bug when ThreatLib revisions do not display. |
11:36.05 | Dhirmadi | (is wowace so slow for everyone? ) |
11:36.26 | pb_ee1 | Dhirmadi: If you want to update the tooltip within the game, then you should try using the "GameTooltip" variable |
11:36.45 | pb_ee1 | Dunno, though, if it will work perfectly |
11:36.55 | Dhirmadi | pb_: how exactly do you mean this? |
11:37.12 | pb_ee1 | GameTooltip is a global variable created by the game itself |
11:37.23 | Dhirmadi | i don;t want to modify the tooltip. i only want it to show the ifnormation of the item i am hovering over, like i get when i run over the loot in a loot window too |
11:37.25 | pb_ee1 | It is the tooltip it normally uses |
11:37.59 | pb_ee1 | Aha |
11:38.30 | pb_ee1 | You want a tooltip to display when you hover [<text>] ? |
11:39.10 | Dhirmadi | yes |
11:39.21 | Dhirmadi | and text displays just fine in my frame |
11:39.35 | Dhirmadi | http://ace.pastey.net/63212 is the current XML template |
11:39.45 | Dhirmadi | tooltip initiated on line 26 |
11:40.29 | Dhirmadi | fontstring at 163 is what i am lookingt o show the loot item information (it contains the itemlink info and displays as [hammer of doom] just fine, |
11:40.29 | pb_ee1 | If you SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_NONE"), the tooltip will never display on the screen |
11:40.36 | pb_ee1 | You should try changing the anchor |
11:41.05 | Dhirmadi | what is your best experience with anchors? |
11:41.23 | pb_ee1 | none, I only use a tooltip to scan item information for my profiler |
11:41.28 | Dhirmadi | ahh ok |
11:41.32 | pb_ee1 | So I use a hidden tooltip, thus ANCHOR_NONE |
11:42.23 | pb_ee1 | Note for everyone: it _seems_ that <tooltip>:ClearLines() is no more required to have proper tooltips |
11:42.39 | Dhirmadi | hmm let's see if that did anything |
11:44.02 | Dhirmadi | addved the lua fyunction to thje pastey at http://ace.pastey.net/63223 is that proper? |
11:44.42 | evl | 59 |
11:45.55 | pb_ee1 | Well, I've seen that SetHyperlink does not always work, but yes, this should be ok |
11:46.30 | Uhuru | nevcairiel the profiles system for BT3 don't work correctly, if i create two new profiles and change something in one of them it change the other two |
11:46.37 | pb_ee1 | I know sometimes the tooltip juste does *not* update, and you must use SetIventoryItem, ... (or whatever) |
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11:48.43 | Dhirmadi | pb: you were right, it shows now. for a brief second... but at least i can seeif showing now... completely out for tormat though but at elast ptogress |
11:48.44 | nevcairiel | Uhuru: i know, but nothing i can do about it right now, its a more complicated issue |
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11:52.38 | Tornhoof | anyone ever seen something like this? |
11:52.39 | Tornhoof | http://i17.tinypic.com/6g2g3n6.jpg |
11:53.00 | Tornhoof | dunno which mod caused it but i guess it was pitbull (aligned to the unit frames and disappeared after group switch) |
11:53.35 | Nemes_ | pitbull did that to me once, briefly, when a party member was added |
11:53.49 | nevcairiel | heh the black boxes bug |
11:53.52 | Punkie` | Tornhoof: Man that UI looks ownage, you don't even get distracted by what's going on as a healer! |
11:53.53 | Nemes_ | however the gigantic grey (in my case) frame reverted in a second |
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11:55.58 | Dhirmadi | pb_ee: what would be the purpose of setinvertoryitem? the item i am looking on is in a loot window |
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12:02.37 | Chompers | Antiarc: i had a look for that Emerald font, i can only find a commerical font thats $40 :/ |
12:02.45 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: what's new in BT4 ? |
12:02.59 | Nemes_ | ooh do tell Nev |
12:03.08 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: wait... firtly, is there a FAQ/wiki on BT4 ? |
12:03.32 | Nemes_ | I looked for one... but I found no wishlist, todolist or anything |
12:05.57 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: its not ready to even talk about it yet |
12:06.09 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: oki |
12:06.26 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: any plan to support bar modules ? |
12:06.46 | Nemes_ | you backported something... so you must have some sort of new featureset... |
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12:08.22 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: what bar modules? |
12:09.03 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: allowing people to write module that set up the content of a bar |
12:09.25 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: default module would be "standard action bar" |
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12:09.40 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: oh .. hmm |
12:09.42 | nevcairiel | dunno |
12:09.50 | Nemes_ | sorry for the apparent tarditry, but differences to macros are...? |
12:10.16 | nevcairiel | i dont want to make it too complicated |
12:10.20 | Adirelle | the idea is to let bartender3 handles layout, showing and the like, but have the module tell which action should be put where |
12:10.25 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: I understand |
12:10.34 | nevcairiel | but i guess someone could use my "Bar" class, which i use as a prototype for my ActionBar class |
12:10.41 | nevcairiel | i could prolly add a better interface |
12:11.18 | Dhirmadi | erm, folks question. is there a difference between the regular game tooltip and the one created by tinytipp? |
12:11.31 | Adirelle | that would be sufficient, I guess, if one can register new bars |
12:11.36 | nevcairiel | I already have a OOish setup, so i have a Bar class which handles layout et al, then a ActionBar class for ActionBars, and coming will be PetBar class .. StanceBar class |
12:12.00 | Morghus | Engineering any fun post-300? |
12:12.23 | Nemes_ | when I was learning the whole AceOO business, Bartender3 was one of the "stand out examples" of how to use the AceOO extensions |
12:12.37 | Tupsi | i get "unknown prefix" and then the name of the character in cowtip |
12:17.22 | Tupsi | ckknight : sleeping i guess? |
12:17.57 | Chompers | yeah the tag isnt working right |
12:18.02 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r41401 10Omen/localization_frFR.lua: Omen: frFR Update |
12:18.22 | Chompers | try swapping it out for [NameHostile] |
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12:22.54 | Wixi | ckknight: With Cowtip is there a solution to the problem where the name comes up as eg/ Carrex"Prefix" Unknown modifier or tag |
12:23.09 | harl|VOY | wtf? |
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12:31.34 | Tupsi | wixi already asked, seems not atm |
12:31.47 | Tupsi | this went in this night though, was working fine yesterday |
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12:33.04 | Dhirmadi | question, isn't GameTooltip e global fram which is provided for? |
12:33.10 | what-K | hi all i have a question to bigwigs |
12:33.41 | what-K | when i download the file from the webpage i have one folder names BigWigs where is the rest |
12:33.50 | [dRaCo] | Any ideas why my Ankhtimerfu doesn't update? like, I ankh and it still shows the old ankh count |
12:33.52 | Adirelle | would it be weird to declare an addon as load-managed by AddonLoader with condition "always" ? people could then use the AddonLoader override feature to change it |
12:33.59 | what-K | i mean bigwigs_blacktemple and so on |
12:34.38 | Awaa | Cowtip dont showup in Niagara |
12:34.57 | what-K | trh have u an idea ? |
12:35.30 | Wixi | ah ok |
12:35.39 | what-K | must i start the bat file ? |
12:35.44 | Wixi | it seems to be to do with the [NameRealm] tag |
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12:42.31 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r41402 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (11 files in 7 dirs): Threat-1.0: frFR Update |
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12:46.36 | Wixi | Someone able to help me with Dog-Tags stuff? I'm a bit new to all this! why does [SmartRace:SmartClass:ClassColor] only show 68 |
12:46.38 | Wixi | oops |
12:46.44 | Wixi | not 68, but the Race |
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12:58.28 | Iceroth | gah, i have foo = "a\n b\n c", how do i get the a, b and c out of it? string.gsub(foo, "(.-)[\n|$], ...) doesn't do it |
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13:11.24 | durcyn | Iceroth: split and chomp =P |
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13:12.27 | Iceroth | yeah well, wtb those for lua :p |
13:13.57 | Killmore | ckknight? |
13:14.22 | [dRaCo] | (.+)\n (.+)\n (.+) should be match |
13:14.32 | [dRaCo] | s/be// |
13:15.18 | Iceroth | erm, i want X amount of them, X being unknown |
13:16.24 | [dRaCo] | does (.+)* work in lua? |
13:16.57 | what-K | http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062307151635zs3.jpg |
13:17.08 | what-K | why is there a empty line ? |
13:17.16 | what-K | and when i click i i gat an error |
13:17.24 | what-K | maybe someone can help me |
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13:18.56 | [dRaCo] | "there"? |
13:22.08 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6996-2.12.html |
13:22.19 | pb_ee1 | I like the "Latest Changes" |
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13:24.24 | what-K | [dRaCo] under Zauberschadentyp anzeigen |
13:25.11 | Killmore | http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cowtipii0.jpg |
13:25.49 | Killmore | why I got "Prefix" Unknown modifier of tag on everyone? |
13:28.12 | Adirelle | if something that " |
13:28.25 | Adirelle | d'oh |
13:28.58 | Adirelle | is someone interested in something that handles s/x/y/ in-game like purl does here ? |
13:29.02 | FISKER_Q | ~seen Kaelten |
13:29.10 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: '150-200k'. |
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13:29.10 | nevcairiel | does WAU 1.9 still need SAL or will it detect the libs on its own? |
13:29.43 | FISKER_Q | I believe that the newest one can detect externals and properly download those addons without embedding |
13:31.14 | durcyn | 1.9 only pulls in deps with X-Embeds set correctly |
13:31.17 | harldephin | i'd say, it depends on the add-ons though. not all add-ons are using the same tags in the .toc |
13:31.23 | harldephin | yea |
13:31.28 | durcyn | and it doesn't go into unembed mode unless it finds a directory named !!!StandAloneLibraries |
13:32.05 | durcyn | so you could put an empty SAL directory with a .svn directory in it, to force it |
13:33.05 | ilifin | <PROTECTED> |
13:33.42 | harldephin | oO |
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13:34.38 | Imp4kT | Is there any extended readme for DrDamage, I want to know what "Coeffs: 1.219/0.429/0" |
13:34.54 | Imp4kT | I want the know what 1.219 and 0 mean, as I know the coeff is 0.429 |
13:35.02 | Imp4kT | Over Mind Blast that is |
13:35.41 | JoshBorke | are you in shadow form? |
13:36.05 | Imp4kT | Yes |
13:36.19 | JoshBorke | the coeffs take into account any buffs you have that would modify the damage you do |
13:36.38 | Wixi | Anyone know how in Dogtags to do If has guild then show text else don't show text |
13:36.43 | JoshBorke | ie, drop shadow form and your coeff will drop |
13:36.45 | Imp4kT | When I take off shadow form it goes to 1.06 |
13:36.58 | Imp4kT | Does that mean that because of my talents, the coeff is 1.06? |
13:37.03 | nevcairiel | probably |
13:37.27 | Imp4kT | Ah, no it doesnt |
13:37.51 | Imp4kT | It means the first calculation is 0.429, and I have a 6% dmg talent |
13:38.13 | Imp4kT | So to work out the final dmg they would be multiplied together |
13:38.41 | Imp4kT | And the final number, the 0, is probably my current +dmg, since I have none :D |
13:40.01 | Imp4kT | ..thanks |
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13:52.44 | Roartindon | Anyone know if Magtheridon adds were nerfed in 2.1.2 any further? |
13:53.04 | Roartindon | Our dps seemed ridiculously high on them today compared to previous weeks |
13:53.59 | Tornhoof | arena weapons |
13:54.30 | Roartindon | Tornhoof: Hmm.. we went from 4 channelers dead when mag released last week |
13:54.40 | Roartindon | Tornhoof: To all 5 dead, and waiting 10 seconds for mag to release this week |
13:55.05 | Roartindon | Tornhoof: And the only dps that have arena weapons are two rogues |
13:55.16 | Tornhoof | dunno |
13:55.24 | Tornhoof | didn't see much difference there |
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13:57.05 | Matrix110 | We did mag with 12 healers this week because we didnt have dps online was quite funny^^ |
13:58.32 | Roartindon | Matrix110: 12 healers! |
13:58.38 | Roartindon | Matrix110: I don't think we even have 12 guild healers >< |
13:59.07 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: what should I do in BT3 to have empty buttons hidden ? |
13:59.39 | Adirelle | should I put :Hide() :Show() where there are :Disable() :Enable, or does the bar also have some frame ? |
14:06.41 | nevcairiel | the bar frame is click-through |
14:06.50 | nevcairiel | you can try hide and show, but it will break in combat :P |
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14:10.27 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ilol'd.JPG |
14:10.35 | Daemona | any1 seen antiarc today? |
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14:11.20 | nevcairiel | i dont get it FISKER_Q :P |
14:12.06 | Iceroth | what's "or" in lua's pattern matching? |
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14:14.20 | Fisker- | liek ZOMG nevcairiel |
14:14.25 | Fisker- | i got ze Half-Life 2: Episode 2 |
14:16.27 | Imp4kT | Its out? |
14:16.55 | kenlyric | you hax! |
14:17.07 | kenlyric | gimmegimmegimmeineedineed |
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14:17.51 | Fisker- | nah |
14:17.56 | Fisker- | someone just found the appid |
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14:18.31 | Imp4kT | newb |
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14:19.54 | BotSlayman | LOOK Who's back! |
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14:20.42 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40 well that's interesting.... in before a million commits to the SVN (unless i'm late and that already happened :P) |
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14:21.29 | nevcairiel | wonder if ag/Saroz/ckk already seen that |
14:21.47 | nevcairiel | oh well |
14:23.03 | sag_ich_nicht | there also a thread on the official forums |
14:23.03 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112673788&sid=1 |
14:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | +is |
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14:23.56 | sag_ich_nicht | also explains why i have been lagging like a motherfucker BGs |
14:25.22 | sag_ich_nicht | +in |
14:25.23 | sag_ich_nicht | gah ^^ |
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14:27.54 | BotSlayman | anyone knows when ckk comes around? |
14:28.53 | BotSlayman | ~purl |
14:29.14 | BotSlayman | !whaleslap BotSlayman |
14:29.41 | BotSlayman | nomore purl? i liked that little buddy |
14:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
14:30.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you are using the wrong command |
14:30.15 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
14:30.18 | sag_ich_nicht | it can't work |
14:30.35 | winkiller | WAH. I nominate for weirdest addon bug ever: Necrosis, destroying Corrupted Soul SHards from Felwood because they match "soul shard" |
14:30.52 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
14:31.14 | sag_ich_nicht | that' what you get for not using regex(or using a bad regex) |
14:31.52 | winkiller | more not knwing the game |
14:31.58 | Codayus | I believe SCT will announce that you've acquired a soul shard whenever you pick up a Corrupted Soul Shard as well. |
14:32.00 | winkiller | there is only [Soul Shard] |
14:32.20 | winkiller | yes, bit that's no harm, Codayus |
14:32.28 | Codayus | *nod* |
14:32.31 | winkiller | just a bit of spam |
14:32.44 | Codayus | Same bug. Although you'd *hope* that people would be extra careful coding any function which deletes items. |
14:32.58 | winkiller | necrosis is a mess |
14:33.09 | Fisker- | DELETE YOUR WTF FOLDER OMG |
14:33.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
14:33.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- wait wut |
14:33.39 | Fisker- | It's somewhat annoying getting that solution to every problem in the game |
14:34.23 | winkiller | too bad necronomicon isnt' under active development :( |
14:35.00 | Thrae | WTF my WTF folder is just WTF! |
14:35.13 | sag_ich_nicht | stop saying Warcraft Text File |
14:35.18 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
14:35.25 | Fisker- | wth |
14:35.34 | winkiller | better than naming a group "W... Task Force" |
14:35.35 | winkiller | also WTF |
14:35.44 | Thrae | Fisker-: Stop saying Warcraft Text Handler |
14:35.55 | winkiller | FFS? |
14:36.24 | winkiller | well, OMG is the Object Management Group, fair enough |
14:36.26 | Dhirmadi | anyone know if there is a limit to GetGuildInfo(unitrecord.unitid) ? |
14:37.10 | Thrae | Dhirmadi: What do you mean, "limit"? |
14:37.10 | Dhirmadi | as i am in a raid, getting the info for a raid3 unit, but it's not returning it's guild name, ( and he is in my guild) :) |
14:37.21 | Fisker- | i just got crashed |
14:37.22 | Dhirmadi | range for example |
14:37.24 | Fisker- | Error #132 |
14:37.27 | Fisker- | mean gm's |
14:38.05 | Dhirmadi | Thrae: know anything about that? |
14:38.13 | Thrae | Dhirmadi: Hmm, sounds like there is a range on it. |
14:38.44 | Thrae | I've only dealt with tooltip range ;) |
14:40.29 | Chompers | WTF folder is warcraft text folder? |
14:40.30 | Chompers | wow |
14:40.40 | Fisker- | no |
14:40.43 | Fisker- | Warcraft Text File |
14:41.08 | Chompers | oh |
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14:42.41 | BotSlayman | ~whaleslap BotSlayman |
14:42.42 | purl | ACTION beats BotSlayman upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
14:42.50 | BotSlayman | there u r! |
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14:45.34 | Dustwhisper | i need to learn this UI via XML shizzle |
14:47.03 | nevcairiel | someone should really bump the topic so that slouken finds it again .. unregistering an event off the header is really no good thing :P |
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14:50.53 | Dhirmadi | dustwhisper: actually i done that and now see that most folks create their interface using the LUA appraoch |
14:50.53 | krka | Dhirmadi: Lua is not an acronym. |
14:51.18 | Dhirmadi | LUA is not you are right, just capslocked it for him to see |
14:51.20 | Dustwhisper | general programmingprinciples dictate that strings and settings etc should not be hardcoded |
14:51.21 | Fisker- | Writing in all caps doesn't mean it is :P |
14:51.24 | Dustwhisper | guess some dont apply that to scripting |
14:51.26 | Dustwhisper | since it's not compiled |
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14:52.11 | Jaxon | Dustwhisper: thats great and everything, but since you are able to dynamically create and destroy UI frames, lots of well written addons do that instead of statically creating them. |
14:54.47 | Cryect | Kalman|: So... why is everyone stealing your avatars? :_p |
14:56.27 | Cryect | Jaxon: we can't destroy UI frames :-p |
14:56.28 | Dustwhisper | so it's a memory vs cpu cycles |
14:56.31 | Dustwhisper | battle |
14:56.37 | Cryect | no, not really |
14:56.43 | Cryect | Lua frames are easier to design |
14:56.47 | Cryect | I can create loops etc |
14:56.51 | Cryect | to create the frames |
14:56.56 | sag_ich_nicht | huh |
14:56.59 | sag_ich_nicht | new WoW launcher |
14:57.00 | sag_ich_nicht | wth |
14:57.02 | Jaxon | Cryect: well, nevermind then, I don't actually write addons, I just remember when it was implmented. |
14:57.32 | Cryect | Jaxon: Yeah, if we want to "destroy" we have to store it in tables to be reused latter |
14:58.35 | Jaxon | I've got the time to write an addon, but I can't think of something I need that isn't already done. |
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15:00.08 | BankZ | Jaxon: I cant fing a good raid cooldown addon |
15:00.14 | BankZ | dont like oRA2 |
15:00.20 | BankZ | *find |
15:01.09 | Jaxon | BankZ: remove all the non cooldown modules for oRA2? Whats wrong with that display, simple, color coded. What about it did you want changed. |
15:01.49 | Iceroth | something that would show important debuffs in some condensed and clear way would really rock.. like fears, stuns, disorients etc.. trying to track those down from all of the debuffs isn't really fast (to see if it's worth popping the trinket or not) |
15:02.04 | dodgizzla | Jaxon: I'd say it only supports like 3 cooldowns.. which is not enough :D |
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15:02.26 | dodgizzla | But there is RaidInfo, which not enough in my raid use, so I can't say how that performs :> |
15:02.28 | Jaxon | Because it was written to be compatible with CTRA and CTRA only supported three cooldowns. |
15:02.47 | dodgizzla | Jaxon: Yeah I know, but you asked what was wrong and IMHO that's wrong :D |
15:03.06 | dodgizzla | Because honestly.. nobody uses CTRA anymore and CTRA2 is like years away |
15:03.22 | dodgizzla | And even then.. wtf be backwards compatible with some ancient crap? |
15:03.32 | dodgizzla | We need innovation! Vive la Revolution! |
15:03.41 | dodgizzla | Down with the authority! |
15:04.46 | BankZ | Jaxon: well couple problems with it, it tracks very few things |
15:05.02 | BankZ | Jaxon: and it always shows the "cool down" label |
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15:05.11 | abyssichate | Chompers: are you there? |
15:05.33 | BankZ | Jaxon: so even if there are no active cooldowns you gota look at the label |
15:06.01 | dodgizzla | BankZ: Try http://www.wowace.com/wiki/RaidInfo |
15:06.21 | BankZ | dodgizzla: ive tried that and couldnt get it to work |
15:06.21 | dodgizzla | As I said.. I tried to test it, but you need your raid to use it, too |
15:06.31 | BankZ | dodgizzla: it never detected any cooldowns |
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15:06.49 | dodgizzla | BankZ: Yeah because it only catches cooldowns that are broadcasted by other people using that addon |
15:07.03 | BankZ | dodgizzla: yeah, thats what I figured |
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15:07.10 | dodgizzla | Soooo, if you're the only one with it.. it'll do zilch :D |
15:07.13 | BankZ | dodgizzla: and no one runs it :( |
15:07.23 | dodgizzla | Yeah, sucks big time |
15:07.36 | dodgizzla | I suppose there is no reliable way to figure out who burns what cooldown |
15:07.39 | BankZ | it would be cool if it could pick things up from CTRA and oRA2 |
15:07.50 | BankZ | and just whatever you are in range of |
15:07.51 | dodgizzla | Yeah, but then again you could use those |
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15:08.06 | dodgizzla | BankZ: That's impossible. Because you don't get any information who used what ability |
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15:08.29 | dodgizzla | You only get "Bleh gains Soulstone Resurrection" and for Ankh/Rebirth there is even no combat log message afaik |
15:08.31 | sbu | bah this is retarted |
15:08.43 | sbu | i need 2 arena1 pieces and 2 arena2 pieces |
15:08.49 | sbu | for +70 resilience bonus |
15:08.49 | sbu | :/ |
15:08.52 | BankZ | hmmm, that sucks |
15:08.53 | dodgizzla | sbu: True. Whatever it is. Retardedness everywhere! |
15:09.13 | sbu | its 2 set bonus on each set |
15:09.15 | dodgizzla | sbu: Didn't they remove Season 1 gear? I could not find it on the vendor :\ Because I had that brilliant plan too |
15:09.20 | sbu | no |
15:09.27 | dodgizzla | Hm, I need to look again then |
15:09.42 | dodgizzla | Is Season 1 gear only in Area 52? Because I only looked in Stormwind |
15:09.45 | sbu | season 1 is even cheaper now |
15:09.47 | sbu | yup, a52 |
15:09.50 | dodgizzla | damned. |
15:09.57 | sbu | storm-where? :/ |
15:10.14 | dodgizzla | Yeah that place you bring Onyxia's and Nefarian's head |
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15:19.08 | Roartindon | BankZ: Check the cooldown tooltip in http://www.lim.com.au/wow/screenshot.jpg (left hand side of the screen) |
15:21.07 | sbu | ohhh |
15:21.08 | dodgizzla | Roartindon: That's neat. What is it :D |
15:21.09 | sbu | Roartindon: wtb |
15:21.23 | ravagernl | omg sheesh these gargantuan infernals suck |
15:21.31 | ravagernl | stupid meteor |
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15:22.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
15:22.08 | Roartindon | It's FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu - it's been on SVN for half a year :) |
15:22.17 | Roartindon | Running as a detached tooltip |
15:23.01 | Roartindon | Info at: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2224.0 |
15:23.07 | Roartindon | Was written even before oRA2 had it's own cooldown module |
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15:24.22 | dodgizzla | I see. Will try :D |
15:24.23 | BankZ | FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu: doesnt work well |
15:24.40 | dodgizzla | On another note.. is XRS usable in 5-man groups nowadays? |
15:24.50 | BankZ | its kinda worthless |
15:25.19 | Thrae | dodgizzla: You need a reminder of how many people are dead, offline, or away in a 5-man group? :D |
15:25.38 | Cryect | of course! |
15:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
15:25.51 | dodgizzla | Thrae: No I need a mashyclicky button to spam Power Word Fortitude and Prayer of Shadow Protection |
15:25.53 | Cryect | Its hard using party bars to figure out mana also |
15:25.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i just figured out a way how you can pass outside informations into WoW. |
15:25.55 | dodgizzla | :> |
15:25.55 | Thrae | All unit frames, even PerfectRaid, can handle that already ;) |
15:26.02 | Thrae | dodgizzla: Ohh...SmartBuff |
15:26.03 | Roartindon | BankZ: Well, each to their own; I' |
15:26.19 | dodgizzla | Thrae: Eh, I use RABuffs, but only because it's usable outside raids :> |
15:26.19 | Roartindon | I've been using it ever sincce I wrote it, as a raid leader, to monitor all my raid cooldowns |
15:26.34 | Thrae | dodgizzla: SmartBuff is usuable anytime, even solo |
15:26.42 | dodgizzla | FWIW.. I use Grid as unit frames, so I don't see mana :> |
15:26.48 | dodgizzla | But then again, I don't care about mana :> |
15:26.56 | Thrae | PR doesn't show mana by default either |
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15:27.23 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW provides the client time to the interface, if you could somehow figure out a way to encode information into that by manipulating the local system clock.... :O |
15:27.43 | BankZ | dodgizzla: to me it seemed to miss more than the oRA2 and lost its cookies a lot |
15:27.50 | clad|sleep | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, you could do a character at a time |
15:27.55 | hypetech | On my Omen, the threat number overlaps the %, how can I spread it out? |
15:27.56 | clad|sleep | but synchronizing that woudl be... a nightmare |
15:28.07 | Roartindon | dodgizzla: If you do use the cooldownfu, make sure you read that forum first, it won't work if you don't make a modification to ora2 |
15:28.22 | dodgizzla | Roartindon: I saw that, thanks. But I don't use oRA anymore |
15:28.27 | dodgizzla | I figured I did not need it :D |
15:28.44 | Thrae | clad|sleep: Couldn't you syncronize it using GetTime(), which calls GetTickCount() in the Win32 API? |
15:29.01 | dodgizzla | Ready Checks and MT are already implemented and as I don't do much raidleading anymore I could care less about the rest |
15:29.02 | sag_ich_nicht | also a keybind that's catched outside of WoW too |
15:29.03 | clad|sleep | in theory yes |
15:29.11 | clad|sleep | but that's no more ToS friendly than the other methods we have |
15:29.13 | Roartindon | dodgizzla: I get all my raiders to install it, so I can check their durability, check when I need to conjure more water, check on various reagents/etc. |
15:29.32 | clad|sleep | if you really want to get data into wow |
15:29.33 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|sleep: i didn't say it's useful. ;O |
15:29.36 | clad|sleep | there are easier ways to do it |
15:29.46 | dodgizzla | Roartindon: Not questioning it's very useful, I just don't need it anymore :D |
15:29.48 | BankZ | <Roartindon>: what mods do you need to do to oRA2? |
15:30.01 | Roartindon | BankZ: Check the forum link above |
15:30.07 | sag_ich_nicht | also clad|sleep if you are already here |
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15:30.16 | sag_ich_nicht | did you see the thread about the raid lockups? :O |
15:30.25 | cladhaire | which one of many |
15:30.28 | Saroz | nevcairiel <3 |
15:30.35 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire the one that figures out the cause. |
15:30.48 | cladhaire | do you have a link? |
15:30.54 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112673788&sid=1 |
15:30.54 | cladhaire | nvm in the ui forums |
15:30.57 | Wixi | Why is [IsUnit#player(mouseovertarget)?Text(<<You>>):Red] [SmartClass#mouseovertarget?ClassColor#mouseovertarget!Name#mouseovertarget] Not showing up targets in the tooltip? |
15:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40 |
15:31.13 | cladhaire | looking at it thanks. |
15:32.24 | sag_ich_nicht | np |
15:32.54 | BankZ | hmmm, I dont see oRA2CooldownFu on WAU anymore |
15:33.53 | Jaxon | FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu maybe? |
15:34.01 | BankZ | why dont they just improve the cooldowns in oRA :) |
15:34.10 | BankZ | dont see that either, unless I am blind |
15:34.24 | [Ammo] | because we're compatible with CTRA that's why |
15:34.32 | [Ammo] | and it only tracks the long important cooldowns |
15:34.36 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: I don't classify that as a blizzard "bug" |
15:34.47 | cladhaire | there's no reason for the frames to be registered for UNIT_NAME_UPDATE |
15:35.03 | Cryect | yawn always fun when I can tell cia is down based on commit times |
15:35.20 | JoshBorke | Cryect: put recount on WoWI :-D |
15:35.33 | Cryect | its not ready |
15:35.35 | Dhirmadi | gentlemen, on numbers, rounding how do i get a 2.23 from a 2.22777777777777 ? |
15:35.42 | BankZ | `@[Ammo]: It seems to only track SS, BR and the shammy pop |
15:35.52 | JoshBorke | Dhirmadi: string.format("%2.2f", number) ? |
15:35.59 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: to quote from the thread: " BTW, this isn't really a bug. it's more of horribly inefficient code that is doing too much updates for no particular reason that leads to the lockups. Before patch 2.1, the secureheadertemplate only listened to RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE so there was no lockup issue. |
15:35.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Why are so many UNIT_NAME_UPDATE events being fired now anyway?" |
15:36.00 | BankZ | `@[Ammo]: Could you make it so you could hide the "cooldown label" ? |
15:36.10 | Cryect | I want to finish the config menu & customizability, fix syncing, and polish up add tooltips to missing buttons |
15:36.11 | JoshBorke | luabot> string.format("%2.2f", 2.23333333) |
15:36.12 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: Thats not the point, |
15:36.18 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: Why are the frames listening to that event? |
15:36.26 | Dhirmadi | JoshBorke: will that not only cut off the last bit? |
15:36.29 | Cryect | once those are addressed I will post it up on wowi and curse |
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15:36.52 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: because no one bothered to not listen to the event :-D |
15:37.00 | Cryect | because it worked in the past! |
15:37.01 | Cryect | :-p |
15:37.03 | hypetech | why does sw_stats use 4MB of resources as soon as I log into the game and before any data :( |
15:37.12 | Roartindon | hypetech: Stored data probably |
15:37.16 | Cryect | hypetech: who knows |
15:37.18 | Cryect | he said before data |
15:37.22 | cladhaire | I'm honestly not trolling, but why is listening to that event necessary? |
15:37.33 | cladhaire | sounds more like legacy pre 2.0 code, that just got carried through |
15:37.35 | hypetech | Roartindon: no, it's nuked |
15:37.47 | Cryect | do a garbage collect and check then |
15:37.59 | hypetech | I have |
15:38.00 | Cryect | recall though it has to have all its own code for everythign so can't use libraries |
15:38.09 | Lywellyn|Away | rogues use focus, don't they? |
15:38.11 | [Ammo] | BankZ: it tracks SS, DI, battle ress and shammy ress because those are worth tracking :P |
15:38.17 | vrak | Lywellyn|Away: no, energy |
15:38.19 | Roartindon | hypetech: It's probably what's necessary.. if you add ace2 core + parser + all the other little bits that ace2 damage monitoring addons use + the actual addon, it's probably 4MB |
15:38.23 | Lywellyn|Away | then who uses focus? |
15:38.28 | vrak | Lywellyn|Away: hunter pets |
15:38.44 | Lywellyn|Away | oh. okay. Trying to set up CowTip the way I like it. |
15:39.07 | Lywellyn|Away | And looking at the DogTag documentation, it lists mana, rage, energy and focus, and I got confused. :p |
15:39.16 | BankZ | [Ammo]: its never showed DI to me, odd |
15:39.33 | Roartindon | BankZ: It'll only show if your pallies are running ora2 |
15:39.36 | vrak | well, that's all 4 secondary bars i believe, so now you know their differences |
15:39.43 | [Ammo] | BankZ: DI is an oRA2 only cooldown |
15:39.48 | [Ammo] | CTRA does not support that one |
15:39.53 | BankZ | ahhh |
15:40.13 | BankZ | make it so I can hide the label? same with rez monitor? |
15:40.14 | Cryect | Wish you would detect the event messages for them and just assume worst case for those sometime though |
15:40.28 | [Ammo] | BankZ: not yet, but I could probably add, lock options |
15:40.29 | [Ammo] | or something |
15:40.35 | Cryect | which will get overwritten if they have ora2 the second the event arrives |
15:40.50 | BankZ | [Ammo]: that would be cool, cuz its fugly :/ |
15:41.30 | [Ammo] | shrug |
15:42.10 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:36] <@cladhaire> sag_ich_nicht: Why are the frames listening to that event? <--i didn't code it, i don't know. even if they weren't, the question for the reason of firing so many UNIT_NAME_UPATEs stands. i mean, theoretically speaking, that could have been discovered by itself as well without any raidframes trigging the investigation of the issue :P |
15:42.24 | BankZ | Anyone know what DreamChat is? |
15:42.27 | [Ammo] | everyone has their own opinion bankz and if I'd give in to every single request it would get bloated fast |
15:43.05 | Roartindon | BankZ: If it doesn't meet your visual or technical requirements, you are of course, free to write your own addon that does. |
15:44.00 | BankZ | Im not trashing oRA2 |
15:44.00 | Saroz | cladhaire, ups, did you delete your pots? |
15:44.11 | BankZ | its 1000 times better than CTRA |
15:44.13 | cladhaire | Saroz: yeah, I'm trying to grok the issue more/better |
15:44.22 | Saroz | cladhaire, k, will delete mine aswell |
15:44.31 | BankZ | but having a label on the screen for no reason is kinda silly |
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15:45.46 | [Ammo] | it's there because I like it there |
15:45.55 | [Ammo] | and since I wrote the damn thing I can do as I please |
15:46.01 | Mellow_ | :D |
15:46.18 | BankZ | wow, defensive?, lol |
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15:46.56 | BankZ | guess you dont like it getting called fugly |
15:47.00 | BankZ | lol, sorry |
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15:48.04 | [Ammo] | I'm not defensive |
15:48.28 | [Ammo] | I'm just stating a fact |
15:48.28 | [Ammo] | I even said I'll look into a locking option that hides it |
15:49.16 | BankZ | sweet |
15:50.01 | Cryect | you used just need to be used to [Ammo]'s personality |
15:50.51 | cladhaire | how large of a raid do I need to reproduce this lockup issue? |
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15:52.02 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: just join a random AV. |
15:52.11 | cladhaire | okaym, thanks. |
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15:52.38 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc it doesn't happen with perfectraid |
15:53.02 | cladhaire | yeah that's what we're trying to figure out |
15:53.18 | cladhaire | cause, the unregistering UNIT_NAME_UPDATE will break any reaid header using namelists |
15:53.20 | cladhaire | that's why its there. |
15:53.27 | cladhaire | the UNIT_NAME_UPDATE firing so much is, yes a problem |
15:53.39 | cladhaire | but i'd like to understand downstream from SecureGroupHeader_Update() what causes this issue. |
15:55.21 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i'll go into AV and see if i still get lockups now that i have the x-perl version with the workaround in |
15:55.47 | cladhaire | yeah i'm testing now |
15:55.56 | vrak | anyone got any good recommendations for a combatlog ? |
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15:56.16 | cladhaire | i'm even enabling cpu profiling |
15:56.18 | Jaxon | vrak: simplecombatlog ? |
15:56.24 | cladhaire | and still having no issues. |
15:56.46 | BankZ | SimpleCombatLog is nice |
15:57.12 | Mellow_ | +1 |
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15:57.35 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: Saroz: We can talk here ( i was talking to sz in pms ) |
15:57.43 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: Saroz says this isn't 100% reproducable |
15:57.50 | cladhaire | i.e. it doesn't happen on every single AV? |
15:58.10 | Jaxon | You know what Quartz needs. |
15:58.21 | Roartindon | cladhaire: Alt-f4 in an AV, and log back in; that often did it for me |
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15:58.24 | Jaxon | A "safe to cast steady shot" marker on the autoshot timer. |
15:58.31 | Roartindon | cladhaire: See whether that generates the problem |
15:58.33 | Pkekyo | how to share Cartographer_Mining mapnotes? |
15:58.43 | cladhaire | great, thanks. |
15:59.01 | cladhaire | hopefully i can get to the bottom of htis |
15:59.03 | Roartindon | cladhaire: But it's one of those annoyingly hard to reproduce errors.. always shows up when you don't want it to, but never when you're ready todebug |
15:59.30 | cladhaire | Ive just had not even one perfectraid user complain of this issue |
15:59.36 | cladhaire | and I still have a few :P |
15:59.48 | Saroz | tring ALT+F4 now |
15:59.49 | cladhaire | doesn't prove anything, but makes me want to understand it. |
16:00.00 | Saroz | no problem with alt+F4 here |
16:00.03 | cladhaire | alt+f4 didn't do it. |
16:00.15 | Roartindon | cladhaire: maybe perfectraid doesn't trip the bug :) |
16:00.25 | cladhaire | Roartindon: thats what we're trying to figure out, what i do differently |
16:00.27 | Roartindon | cladhaire: for me, grid seemed to do it; disabling that allowed me to log back in |
16:00.40 | cladhaire | anyone have a rev of pitbull or grid that _has_ this problem |
16:00.44 | cladhaire | i know its hack-fixed now. |
16:00.47 | Tornhoof | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcDshWmhF4A |
16:00.49 | Roartindon | the latest grid has it |
16:00.55 | cladhaire | orly? |
16:01.04 | cladhaire | you sure its the latest? |
16:01.08 | Roartindon | well, Grid from 1 week ago, and I don't think there have been updates in the mean time |
16:01.16 | Roartindon | I had to disable it to log back into my magtheridon raid last week |
16:01.32 | dodgizzla | I use the latest version of Grid and PitBull (but not the raid frames of PitBull); yesterday when I switched vom Eye of the Storm to Arathi Basin I had a lockup and had to kill WoW via task manager :D |
16:01.39 | Roartindon | cladhaire: Checking svn logs now |
16:01.44 | cladhaire | me too |
16:01.48 | cladhaire | seven alt-f4s |
16:01.49 | cladhaire | no issues. |
16:01.52 | dodgizzla | I had some lookups some weeks ago, too. But other than that, no problemos |
16:01.52 | Roartindon | cladhaire: But I'm reasoanbly sure the problematic version h asn't had any revisions |
16:02.19 | KarlThePagan | I've been experiencing lockups... I heard ag mention something in chat, but didn't catch the details |
16:02.20 | cladhaire | nope looks like it hasn't. |
16:02.23 | KarlThePagan | I think there's an agUF branch |
16:02.46 | Roartindon | cladhaire: embeds/toc changes, but no real code changes it seems |
16:02.55 | cladhaire | checking it out now to test |
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16:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i think RDX might also trip this bug |
16:03.11 | sag_ich_nicht | going to AV now to test :O |
16:04.08 | KarlThePagan | cladhaire, sag_ich_nicht if you have a battleground autojoiner, disable it |
16:04.13 | cladhaire | i dont |
16:04.16 | cladhaire | doing it all manually |
16:04.22 | cladhaire | i run with little addos, actuaqlly |
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16:04.29 | KarlThePagan | yea I got around it usually by autojoining ;) |
16:04.44 | KarlThePagan | and i have my raidleader kick me if I disconnect during a raid |
16:04.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:04] <+KarlThePagan> cladhaire, sag_ich_nicht if you have a battleground autojoiner, disable it <--i don't have one either :O |
16:04.59 | KarlThePagan | kk |
16:05.06 | Chompers | i'm using CowTip and my HP tag keeps flickering when targeting npcs, any ideas? |
16:05.09 | Chompers | [FractionalHP:Short:HPColor] [PercentMP:Percent:Paren] |
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16:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | oh that's great |
16:05.36 | cladhaire | hehe i can't get the issue at all |
16:05.36 | sag_ich_nicht | average wait: 56 minutes |
16:05.37 | cladhaire | it seems. |
16:05.39 | dodgizzla | Tornhoof: Funny thing :D |
16:05.44 | ultimate-` | is there is a prob w/ 1.9? |
16:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll join EotS as well |
16:05.55 | BankZ | Which mail addons do you guys like? |
16:06.03 | dodgizzla | BankZ: Postal:D |
16:06.08 | Pkekyo | anyone able to tell me how to share Cartographer_Mining mapnotes? |
16:06.50 | cladhaire | most recent pitbull rev causing the issue perhaps? |
16:07.15 | BankZ | from my testing postal and postman seem to be a nice combo |
16:07.38 | Saroz | easiest thing is prob. a diff from 2.0 to 2.1 in the headers |
16:08.23 | cladhaire | the header changed 100% in 2.0 to 2.1 |
16:08.38 | cladhaire | as documented. |
16:08.40 | cladhaire | the header was consolidated |
16:08.42 | cladhaire | and i dont think the issue lies there |
16:08.44 | cladhaire | i think the issue lies in something addons are doing in response to _something_ |
16:08.55 | Saroz | I don't agree |
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16:09.00 | cladhaire | i dont think slouken coded if AddOnName == "PerfectRaid" then don't crash =) |
16:09.09 | Saroz | the problem is generic enough for it to be in the headers itself |
16:09.25 | cladhaire | _could_ be yes, |
16:09.27 | Stephmw | cladhaire: maybe it's just a partial name match on 'perfect*' |
16:09.30 | cladhaire | likely from where I'm sitting? no |
16:09.36 | cladhaire | that's why i want to figure it out. |
16:09.37 | Stephmw | cladhaire: nothing perfect could ever go bad :) |
16:09.42 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
16:09.43 | cladhaire | heh |
16:09.44 | Stephmw | cladhaire: so... rename everything else? |
16:09.52 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
16:09.56 | sag_ich_nicht | x-perl's bugfix bugs RDX |
16:09.59 | Saroz | where is the perfectraid code? |
16:10.09 | cladhaire | Saroz: what do you mean? |
16:10.14 | Saroz | you got an SVN somewhere? |
16:10.21 | KarlThePagan | let me see if I can repro it in ab and i'll report my addons list |
16:10.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll have to revert to 2.2.8 because of this |
16:10.45 | cladhaire | yeah |
16:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
16:10.51 | cladhaire | wow-perfectraid.googlecode.com/svn/trunk |
16:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | This application has encountered a critical error: |
16:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ERROR #134 (0x85100086) Fatal Condition |
16:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Program:C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
16:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | File:.\CGxDeviceD3d\CGxD3dDevice.cpp |
16:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Line:1630 |
16:11.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Driver internal error on resource lock. Check AGP aperture. |
16:11.15 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
16:11.17 | sag_ich_nicht | AGAIN |
16:11.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i wish they would fix this |
16:11.24 | cladhaire | whats that one? |
16:11.30 | sag_ich_nicht | bug with nvidia video cards |
16:11.34 | cladhaire | boo |
16:11.35 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard hasn't admitted it yet |
16:11.43 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's in since 2.1 |
16:11.58 | Cryect | what bug is this? |
16:12.00 | sag_ich_nicht | happens with PCI-Express videocards from nvidia |
16:12.06 | sag_ich_nicht | crash on alt + tab |
16:12.09 | Cryect | I've got an nvidia pci-e card and never crashes :-p |
16:12.15 | Tain | Me too also. |
16:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Cryect then you are lucky :P |
16:12.24 | Saroz | cladhaire, you do frame:SetAttribute("template", "SecureUnitButtonTemplate") |
16:12.34 | Saroz | I use sRaidFrameUnitSecure, which inherits SecureUnitButtonTemplate |
16:12.43 | Saroz | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.xml |
16:12.50 | cladhaire | okay, its the same template |
16:12.54 | sag_ich_nicht | or you don't alt + tab a lot |
16:13.01 | cladhaire | do you override any of the template specific functions? |
16:13.04 | vrak | mine never crashes on alt-tabbing either, but then i run in windowed mode anyway |
16:13.21 | sag_ich_nicht | happens with fullscreen mode .P |
16:13.22 | sag_ich_nicht | *:P |
16:13.40 | Tain | Nope I think it's just you, sag_ich_nicht. |
16:13.40 | cladhaire | Saroz: nope, you only override onclick |
16:13.43 | vrak | alt-tabbing with fullscreen is too painful, tbh |
16:13.53 | Tain | I alt-tab with full screen all the time. |
16:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Tain: nope, because there are other people reporting it |
16:13.55 | cladhaire | Saroz: that shouldn't make a bit of difference, at all |
16:14.01 | cladhaire | Saroz: What does your OAC handler look like? |
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16:14.12 | Saroz | OAC? |
16:14.23 | Saroz | ah |
16:14.43 | cladhaire | just sets a dirty flag to update the frame on next update? |
16:14.44 | Saroz | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua -> sRaidFrames_OnAttributeChanged |
16:14.46 | cladhaire | or do i read that wrong. |
16:14.50 | Saroz | yea |
16:14.58 | cladhaire | okay, that makes sense. |
16:15.02 | cladhaire | i actually do more accounting there |
16:15.16 | Kazie | Hi guys.. i've just installed Buffalo2 ... but i keep getting an error when i try to open the config.. it returns this error message "...AddOns\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0:402: You cannot open a waterfall without registering it first" ... Do anyone of you know what the problem is? |
16:15.30 | Saroz | could be sRaidFrames_InitUnitFrame, though, since it's on login where frames are created and modded |
16:16.20 | Saroz | To be honest, I'm not even sure I have the problem with sRF, it could just aswell be aguf and/or pitbull.. people without sRF have reported the problem aswell |
16:16.24 | Saroz | it's a bastard |
16:16.38 | cladhaire | yeah thats waht i'm wondering |
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16:16.48 | cladhaire | i _have_ to believe i would have gotten a report |
16:16.57 | cladhaire | if anything else were to break, I'd hear about it in 2 seconds. |
16:17.21 | Kazie | anyone? :o |
16:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | reverted to x-perl 2.2.8, let's see if it trips the bug and doesn't break my RDX :O |
16:18.53 | Saroz | gah SVN is teh slow |
16:19.10 | Daemona | ghosh... http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40 |
16:20.00 | Kaelten | I blame the martians |
16:20.54 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, actually seems to be a bug in RDX not x-perl breaking it |
16:21.39 | [Ammo] | the SVN is fine Saroz |
16:21.46 | [Ammo] | it's the CIA post-commit hook you nub |
16:21.55 | Saroz | !!! |
16:22.05 | [Ammo] | so you're better off kicking CIA |
16:22.24 | Fisker- | oh hi |
16:22.44 | [Ammo] | BankZ: your locking options are in, enjoy or gtfo |
16:22.51 | sedatedChipmunk | can't; he isn't in the channel |
16:22.59 | Cryect | hard to kick a server thats down :-p |
16:23.05 | Saroz | yea :( |
16:23.12 | sag_ich_nicht | can't repro anymore |
16:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i HAD that bug happen though |
16:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
16:23.23 | Fisker- | [Ammo] |
16:23.37 | Fisker- | I Want SW_Stats but renamed to Violation |
16:23.46 | Fisker- | I got it or gtfo? |
16:26.19 | KarlThePagan | hmm, very brief lag for me on ab join, but not like what happens in KZ sometimes |
16:26.20 | Kaelten | ok svn should be faster |
16:27.27 | Cryect | Fisker-: I think you could fork SW_Stats to that in about 1 minute |
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16:31.09 | [Ammo] | Kaelten: the svn is soo fast you can't connect :p |
16:31.20 | Kaelten | hrm? |
16:31.24 | [Ammo] | it's like 'what no data? disconnect' |
16:31.32 | [Ammo] | getting connect refused |
16:31.58 | Kaelten | hrm? |
16:32.06 | Kaelten | since I made that statement? |
16:32.08 | [Ammo] | works again |
16:32.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
16:32.15 | [Ammo] | yeah just before i made my statment |
16:32.21 | [Ammo] | but it works again now |
16:32.38 | [Ammo] | might have been a fluke in my network, but everything else was still working |
16:33.38 | Kaelten | ya commits work for me |
16:33.49 | [Ammo] | yaeh it worked again when I said works again |
16:33.53 | [Ammo] | it didn't work for 2 mins |
16:33.55 | [Ammo] | but meh |
16:34.01 | [Ammo] | might ahve been something upstream from my ISP |
16:34.07 | Kaelten | lo |
16:34.09 | Kaelten | l |
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16:39.47 | Cryect | heh Kaelten any chance of setting a script up to check if the cia server is up and if its not swapping the config and vice versa |
16:40.12 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
16:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | that's interesting |
16:40.48 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/63700-2mw2 |
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16:41.54 | Kaelten | Cryect: I'm more likey to create my own announce bot |
16:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | trh |
16:43.19 | Cryect | then we wouldn't have the nifty featuers of the cia server that I bet no one uses :-p |
16:48.54 | kebinusan | hmm |
16:49.07 | kebinusan | getdkp is making my eyes bleed |
16:49.39 | Chompers | does anyone use EPGP or have any experiences with it? |
16:50.24 | kebinusan | chompers I played with it a little bit, but my guild is too full of people who like to kick/gquit for comedy at times |
16:50.46 | kebinusan | it didnt have good support for alts/people not in raid last time I tried it too |
16:51.58 | Chompers | fair enough |
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16:52.26 | Chompers | we're hoping it's better than dkp with people hording it all the time |
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16:53.16 | kebinusan | he doesnt seem to understand localization (string.lower(msg) == string.lower(GDKP_Search_schwer_eng)) or (string.lower(msg) == string.lower(GDKP_Search_schwer_de)) |
16:53.51 | kebinusan | and everything thing he has split out in a localization file has _de or _eng on the end |
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16:54.45 | kebinusan | Chompers we do effective DKP, where I just take someones 30 day attendance percentage and multiply it by their DKP total, thats what they have to spend... it doesnt totally solve hording but they have to show up to spend their points |
16:55.50 | sbu | kebinusan: epgp does :p |
16:56.42 | hyperChipmunk | good lord O_o |
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17:04.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
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17:11.45 | Kaelten | who wrote garbagefu? |
17:12.05 | ravagernl | ~garbagefu |
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17:12.54 | Gnarfoz | ## Author: wmrojer |
17:14.02 | abyssichate | Does the fact that I don't make SCL track raid events affect Violation's data gathering precision? |
17:14.17 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't |
17:14.45 | Gnarfoz | easy way to be sure: disable all events |
17:14.46 | Gnarfoz | :D |
17:19.03 | hyperChipmunk | no, the events are sent whether you listen to them or not |
17:19.27 | binder | anyone know what happened to the omen thread on the EJ forums? |
17:20.10 | pb_ee1 | Anyone have a link to a nice BLP > PNG converter that works with _all_ icons? |
17:20.46 | abyssichate | hyperChipmunk: so, not listening to raid events will not lower the memory usage of SCL will it? |
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17:24.02 | Gnarfoz | if there are no leaks, why would listening to them even increase the usage? |
17:25.18 | abyssichate | yeah, it should not |
17:29.20 | Kemayo | I <3 GarbageFu. |
17:29.28 | Scrapy_ | Hi. I have a little question about TinyTip. |
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17:29.47 | hyperChipmunk | abyssichate: depends on what you do with 'em |
17:30.38 | Kemayo | Scrapy_: You should ask you question, then. |
17:30.47 | Scrapy_ | i see on the description (files.wowace.com): "Default is stuck-to-mouse anchoring. Also ToT info and more." It's possible to see the ToT on Tooltip ? |
17:31.05 | Scrapy_ | With TinyTip ? |
17:31.09 | Kemayo | It is, yes. |
17:31.19 | Kemayo | It might require TinyTipExtras, I can't remember. |
17:31.36 | Scrapy_ | Oh okay, i go try TinyTipExtras |
17:31.41 | Thrae | It requires TinyTipExtras. With the new version, it will require TinyTipModules (essentially TinyTipExtras). |
17:32.31 | Kemayo | Thrae: How's progress going on the new version -- I'm giving the svn one a try, but I miss my ToT. :) |
17:33.09 | Thrae | Kemayo: I hope to have the database and slash commands done by today, but right now I'm sidetracked by comparing the mortality rates of Drunk Driving vs Murder vs Terrorism |
17:33.14 | JoshBorke | Cryect: recount doesn't seem to be obeying my bar texture option |
17:33.22 | Kemayo | Thrae: Sounds... fun? |
17:33.41 | kenlyric | don't let the terrorists drink and drive. |
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17:33.54 | Thrae | I'm into some political stuff. I hate how people tote terrorism as some type of huge deal, when even just drunk driving is a far, far bigger deal. |
17:34.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
17:34.36 | sag_ich_nicht | is there anything like theorycraft that's being actually maintained? :O |
17:35.19 | Thorgard | DrDamage.. for casters. ;P |
17:35.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Thorgard i'm a paladin. :P |
17:35.40 | Thorgard | So you're a caster. Good. DrDamage. ;P{ |
17:35.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Thorgard: depends :P |
17:35.58 | sag_ich_nicht | 0/8/53 :P |
17:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | so if it's e.g. not going to display the damage crusader strike is going to do it's not really useful :P |
17:38.36 | sag_ich_nicht | also have a warrior & a hunter twink |
17:38.37 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
17:39.42 | [DiE]Celeb | you can get excel charts for theorycrafting =) |
17:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | [DiE]Celeb that doesn't work ingame with buffs you currently have(or debuffs) though |
17:40.57 | [DiE]Celeb | but what use does that number ingame have... unless your a caster it's gonna be off by targets mitigation anyways |
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17:41.26 | [DiE]Celeb | prob why DrDamage only do magic dmg |
17:41.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:40] <[DiE]Celeb> but what use does that number ingame have... unless your a caster it's gonna be off by targets mitigation anyways <--i'm a ret pala. it's off for SOME things, but not for others. :P |
17:41.46 | [DiE]Celeb | the magic dmg stuff should be in drdamage tho |
17:42.04 | [DiE]Celeb | atleast i think my pala got values on them |
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17:42.20 | [DiE]Celeb | have'nt used it in a while tho |
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17:45.09 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
17:46.00 | Kemayo | I need to stop causing segfaults in my irc client. |
17:46.19 | Hjalte | Does anyone know what the respawn timer is in normal lvl 70 instances? |
17:46.33 | [Ammo] | 2-4 hourr |
17:46.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i was wondering that yesterday too. |
17:46.46 | [Ammo] | for trash that is |
17:47.08 | Hjalte | [Ammo]: Isn't trash the only thing that respawns? :) |
17:53.07 | durcyn | trash flips in 30 minutes |
17:53.19 | durcyn | if it's empty, that is |
17:53.50 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ckknight |
17:54.17 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 8m 4s ago, saying: 'http://bash.org/?772437'. |
17:54.17 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
17:54.17 | sag_ich_nicht | DrDamage uses +hit for +spell hit it seems |
17:54.29 | sag_ich_nicht | which is completely wrong D: |
17:54.45 | Cryect | haha wth |
17:58.46 | Hjalte | Does anyone know the trash mob respawn timer for Shattered Halls specifically? I'm using Incubator, but it doesnt seem to have any timers |
17:58.57 | sbu | heroic or normal? |
17:59.07 | Hjalte | normal |
17:59.10 | sbu | no idea :o |
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17:59.53 | Cryect | Anyone know what the spell name for the debuff that Freezing Trap applies? |
18:00.16 | trh_ | magic |
18:00.25 | trh_ | stupid warlock hounds can eat it :( |
18:00.30 | Cryect | ... heh I know its not called magic :-p |
18:00.39 | trh_ | i think it is |
18:00.55 | Cryect | I don't care the dispell type I want the Name :-p |
18:01.15 | trh_ | ah... wait ;) |
18:01.23 | trh_ | gotta login |
18:02.10 | Cryect | Seems its Freezing Trap Effect |
18:02.24 | Cryect | strange wasn't showing up when I searched by Freezing Trap >_> |
18:02.48 | trh_ | yep |
18:02.52 | trh_ | it's Freezing Trap Effect |
18:02.57 | Cryect | Oh damn I forgot to press the more button on thott hence thats why it didn't show up |
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18:03.23 | trh_ | use wowhead :) |
18:03.28 | trh_ | it's better than thott anyway :) |
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18:04.17 | ckknight | hey all |
18:04.22 | Killmore | hey ckknight |
18:04.23 | sag_ich_nicht | hello ckknight |
18:04.38 | Killmore | I got this "Prefix" Unknown modifier of tag on everyone |
18:04.40 | Killmore | http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cowtipii0.jpg |
18:04.42 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire maybe now you'll find the cause :P |
18:04.55 | cladhaire | ? |
18:05.21 | hyperChipmunk | sup loser |
18:06.48 | Thorgard | What's everyone's UI look like currently? Hit me with some screenshots. |
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18:07.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://i8.tinypic.com/5xgkt3k.jpg |
18:07.38 | Hjalte | Does anyone else have a problem with parts of their WoW window becoming all gray, like the bottom half, when they exit an instance? |
18:07.39 | cynyr_ | hmm i can't seem to get omen to show my pets threat while not in a party with any other players. |
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18:08.45 | abyssichate | memory usage of threat-1.0 has gone boom, 5MiB and increasing |
18:08.50 | abyssichate | after we leave the raid, it's fine :E |
18:10.14 | trh_ | hey ck |
18:10.27 | trh_ | ckknight: is it possible that parser-3.0 has some problems with the frFR version of the client? |
18:10.43 | trh_ | ckknight: getting reports like: http://pix.nofrag.com/e2/c2/f54a320b54cefe7ee7cccf2d8d7a.html |
18:10.54 | trh_ | ckknight: where the frame basically just uses the name parser gives |
18:11.08 | trh_ | ckknight: no swstats_fixlogstrings |
18:12.36 | Hjalte | What's the best addon to give other players a rating or a warning to yourself that you should never party with them again... Playerrating? |
18:13.09 | trh_ | Hjalte: i guess it's called brain ;) |
18:13.22 | trh_ | Hjalte: and communication ;) |
18:13.32 | Hjalte | trh_, i can't remember every player i group with. |
18:13.57 | Thrae | Alright. I have computed that the average American, if they join the fight in Iraq, has a 1539% -less- chance of dying by the hands of another human being. |
18:14.03 | trh_ | Hjalte: for your personal use you can use vanaskos' hatelist :) |
18:14.12 | Fisker- | sag_ich_nicht i can see why you don't show your memory usage |
18:14.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- huh? |
18:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | 121 MB atm |
18:14.27 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
18:14.47 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: yikes.. swstats =) |
18:15.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- and i don't use performancefu atm because for some unexplainable reason it's causing 1 frame lags |
18:15.32 | sag_ich_nicht | so i just activate it if i think something is going crazy :P |
18:15.42 | Fisker- | everything is crazy in that shot |
18:16.09 | Fisker- | my computer almost made a nuclear cascade failure (techno babble ftw) and destroyed europe |
18:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | that's because i had alphamap turned on :P |
18:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | and there were to many things in fubar |
18:16.51 | cynyr_ | hmm my ept shows up in the test bars for omen, but not after i do a aggro reset |
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18:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:14] <trh_> sag_ich_nicht: yikes.. swstats =) <--huh? :O |
18:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i haven't found a proper replacement yet, where's the problem? :P |
18:18.51 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: hehe.. i just don't like it... maybe violation, recap or recount :) |
18:19.30 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_ any reason why those would be better? :P |
18:19.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean |
18:19.36 | Saroz | threat-1.0, line 856: error("Assertation failed: Attempt to publish _GLOBAL_ as target for %s, %s", k, UnitClass("player")) |
18:19.37 | sag_ich_nicht | if i was using damage meters |
18:19.39 | Saroz | INVALID SYNTAX |
18:19.39 | Saroz | fix |
18:19.57 | Saroz | getting spammed here |
18:19.57 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: i like the per-spell-display feature of recap |
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18:22.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i just looked at recap, has it even been updated recently? >.> |
18:24.32 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: r39257 | dotted | 2007-06-09 10:49:27 -0400 (Sat, 09 Jun 2007) | 1 line |
18:24.35 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: last time ;) |
18:24.37 | ckknight | trh_: no idea what that report means |
18:24.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i see |
18:24.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
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18:25.13 | trh_ | ckknight: me neither.. guess i'll have to get a french client to test it =) |
18:25.33 | Settler | How I can contact with developer of "Omen" addon? |
18:25.41 | ckknight | I'm tempted to fuck rophy and just fix the strings... |
18:25.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Settler: you wait until he shows up :P |
18:25.49 | ckknight | Settler: that'd be Antiarc |
18:25.51 | trh_ | Settler: ask for Antiar1 |
18:25.54 | sag_ich_nicht | (which reminds me, where is Antiarc) |
18:26.06 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: is that the same person as Antiarc? :P |
18:26.07 | hyperChipmunk | poor rophy =\ |
18:26.12 | Settler | ok. I'm try with Antiar1 =) |
18:26.15 | Chompers | ckknight! |
18:26.16 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: i guess it's his idle nick ;) |
18:26.23 | trh_ | Settler: i think he sleeps or isn't around |
18:26.35 | trh_ | Settler: he's usually named antiarc or antiarc|work |
18:27.15 | Chompers | when i target mobs, my mana tags keep jumping up and down |
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18:27.42 | Chompers | it also does it when a player doesn't have a guild |
18:27.59 | abyssichate | yes |
18:28.01 | abyssichate | I had the same |
18:28.10 | abyssichate | it happens when hte left tag is empty and the right one is not |
18:28.34 | abyssichate | I also have issues with background colouring, guildies are not always detected, sometimes they are coloured as "others" |
18:28.36 | Settler | And in what time he is usual appears? |
18:29.08 | trh_ | us-time evening/night |
18:29.17 | Settler | GMT? |
18:29.27 | sag_ich_nicht | any page for recount avaiable? :O |
18:29.58 | trh_ | no, but it uses GraphLib :) |
18:30.02 | trh_ | so it might be nice :) |
18:30.43 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=13567 works pretty well |
18:32.31 | trh_ | omg... i think i have to install it, make some screenshots and brag with it ;) |
18:32.38 | cynyr_ | okay i really should update my addons before i think they are broken.... |
18:32.39 | trh_ | (in our guilds boards ;) |
18:33.10 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: your NameRealm tag is mussed up |
18:33.37 | ckknight | I fixed it |
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18:34.12 | Iceroth | ckknight, is there a reason pitbull doesn't show my combo points to target when i'm not in cat form? |
18:34.12 | Daemona | wow.... keeping 17 copies of your "addons" folder does really slow down starting wow? wouldnt expect that ^^ http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=13575 |
18:34.27 | ckknight | Iceroth: you don't have the module enabled? |
18:34.36 | AnduinLothar | in the ace options table what's the difference between and different usages of the hidden and disabled values. for clarification.... |
18:34.50 | Iceroth | i do, they show up when i'm in cat but when i shift out, they disappear and reappear again when i'm back in cat |
18:36.30 | AnduinLothar | I assume that in drop down menus both are evaluated by not showing the option... rather than showing a disabled option grey'd out |
18:36.32 | kebinusan | Daemona: interesting |
18:36.53 | Daemona | i call it stupid :X |
18:37.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: nah, its justifiable given the way they sandbox the lua environment |
18:37.20 | Gnarfoz | bah |
18:37.22 | hyperChipmunk | i'm pretty sure disabled means greyed-out |
18:37.35 | Gnarfoz | CowTip creates blank lines for some of my tags |
18:37.58 | AnduinLothar | hyperChipmunk: I've never seen any grey'd out options before tho... |
18:37.59 | Daemona | no, i wanted to say its stupid to keep 17 redundant copies of your addon folders cause you fear 1 bad addon when updating ;) |
18:38.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: oh, yeah, that's stupid. :P |
18:38.17 | hyperChipmunk | i have |
18:38.19 | Gnarfoz | [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Dead?Gray][Guild:Angle] < I guess it's because of [Dead?Gray], because if I take that out, no blank line on corpses |
18:38.22 | hyperChipmunk | and they've got to come from somewhere =P |
18:38.23 | AnduinLothar | eg? |
18:38.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Especially on a mac. |
18:38.33 | Gnarfoz | but [Guild?Dead?Gray:Angle] doesn't work -.- |
18:38.41 | NightHawkTheSane | He's better off just zipping up the AddOns dir instead |
18:38.44 | hyperChipmunk | fubar Remove Panel when you only have one panel |
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18:38.58 | AnduinLothar | k thx |
18:39.03 | Mudkipz | http://www.tyrsa.de/LOL.jpg |
18:39.03 | Mudkipz | rofl |
18:39.18 | AnduinLothar | lol |
18:39.24 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: he could just copy his Interface folder to be named Interface_<date> and voila, fixed |
18:39.42 | hyperChipmunk | you know, we really ought to make a style guide for ace options |
18:39.45 | Gnarfoz | duh... [Guild:StatusColor:Angle] :D |
18:39.53 | AnduinLothar | yes, yes you should |
18:39.58 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: not if wow parses -everythign inside /path/to/World of Warcraft/, unless he copies it outside that path |
18:40.10 | NightHawkTheSane | s/thign/thing-/ |
18:40.29 | hyperChipmunk | like a chart: Option - Commandline Representation - Dropdown Representation - GUI Representation |
18:40.49 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: in that case he'd additionally have to move the folder outside of wow |
18:40.50 | hyperChipmunk | since every part of it is designed to be supported be each of those three |
18:41.07 | hyperChipmunk | documenting HOW it should be supported would probably be a good thing |
18:41.35 | hyperChipmunk | i'ma do that after my midsummer quests =P |
18:41.37 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: well yeah, obviously that's the best solution. But if he just zips the folder, even if he leaves it in there, wow is only parsing the single zip, and not the huge nested folders structure. |
18:42.28 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: And given that "create archive" is a default and easily accessible contextual menu option in the finder, there's no excuse for just blindly hitting command-d and copying an entire directory structure just for a backup. |
18:43.04 | Chompers | ckknight: do you want me to test anything for this 'shaking' bug? |
18:43.17 | ckknight | shaking? |
18:43.26 | AnduinLothar | hyperChipmunk: is there some reason why 'get' wouldn't be evaluated if an otpion was disabled? |
18:43.40 | Daemona | ckknight love your avatar :) |
18:43.43 | Chompers | if a line has no text to the left, the tag in the right shakes about |
18:43.50 | abyssichate | ckknight: yes, if in a line the left tag is empty while the right one is not, there is some "shake" |
18:43.58 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: i'd think the compressing itself might take alot of time if he has alot of addons |
18:43.58 | Chompers | maybe 'jumps about' it more descriptive |
18:44.00 | ckknight | oh...yea |
18:44.08 | ckknight | daemona: :-) |
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18:44.19 | Daemona | ckknight on the other hand, can you access weapon speed (mh/oh) via dogtag? ;) |
18:44.31 | ckknight | daemona: no, that's not coded in |
18:44.34 | ckknight | it could be. |
18:44.52 | trh_ | Mudkipz: lol.. good luck for that GM that the name is edited out ;) |
18:44.54 | Daemona | prtyprtyplx? |
18:45.03 | hyperChipmunk | AnduinLothar: hm |
18:45.03 | trh_ | Mudkipz: guess he'd got a blizzard-kick otherwise ;) |
18:45.22 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: *shrug* my addons folder is ~41mb and it doesn't take me more than a minute or two to zip it. if I don't want to sit there, I get up and do something else for those two minutes. SO unless he's running with like a 100+MB addons folder, i doubt time's a real issue ;) |
18:46.03 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: still, copying them takes only like 10 seconds :) |
18:46.07 | hyperChipmunk | the only place where i think that you'd see the value of a disabled option would be like in a GUI listbox |
18:46.23 | chrisp_- | does anyone here use wow bench at all? |
18:46.28 | AnduinLothar | ckknight: in FuBarPlugin lockTooltip.get errors if self.frame is undefined or not registered with tablet. Should that function ever be called if lockTooltip.disabled() == true? |
18:46.48 | AnduinLothar | hyperChipmunk: checkbox? |
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18:47.09 | hyperChipmunk | that might pose some ambiguity for the user..."this option is disabled, but it's set to something; how do i change it if it's disabled? I don't want that value." |
18:47.47 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: yes, it should be called, I believe |
18:48.02 | AnduinLothar | but it errors |
18:48.04 | hyperChipmunk | disabled listboxes with wrong values tend to frustrate me, even if I'm not using the option. OCD-sorta thing |
18:48.09 | ckknight | hrm |
18:48.15 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: any chance for Recount to not re-show on login if it wasn't shown on logout? :) |
18:49.02 | AnduinLothar | so when using the ace options table one should assume that disabled options are not set? |
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18:49.26 | AnduinLothar | and thus not call the 'get' function? |
18:49.42 | Morghus | KCI2's out ? Oo |
18:49.58 | AnduinLothar | or is there the possibility that get() == true even when disabled() == true |
18:50.08 | abyssichate | ckknight: do you know anything about guild backgrounds not being coloured correctly' |
18:50.15 | ckknight | no |
18:50.51 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: that possibility is there. |
18:51.01 | Slayman | how far away from RC is cowtip? |
18:51.15 | AnduinLothar | ok, well if that's the case then you should probably fix FuBar plugin |
18:51.20 | ckknight | Slayman: usable now |
18:51.25 | abyssichate | ckknight: some of them are being coloured with the same colour as "Others" (background) |
18:51.29 | Daemona | |-- THAT FAR --| |
18:51.31 | Daemona | ? ;) |
18:51.35 | ckknight | roughly |
18:51.45 | ckknight | abyssichate: hrm... |
18:51.55 | ckknight | abyssichate: does their guild show up on hover, though? |
18:52.22 | abyssichate | yes |
18:52.24 | abyssichate | it does |
18:52.54 | ckknight | hrm |
18:52.57 | ckknight | crazy, then |
18:54.56 | abyssichate | http://wallen.ngi.it/guildok.jpg = correct colouring | http://wallen.ngi.it/guildnok.jpg = not correct colouring, it follows Other colour |
18:55.14 | ckknight | bah |
18:56.09 | Lywellyn|Away | I made the color of the character's name the hostility color. |
18:56.44 | Lywellyn | One day, knowing DogTag coding will be second nature to me. XD |
18:57.15 | Daemona | hmmm someone fubared craftlist2 |
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18:57.36 | AnduinLothar | ckknight: it's an easy fix. replace return Tablet:IsLocked(self.frame) with if (self.frame) then return Tablet:IsLocked(self.frame) end |
18:57.39 | Daemona | some hook error -> duscinnect |
18:58.00 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: self.frame should always exist, though... |
18:58.04 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: so, i just tested it (which actually took a long time, because I had some rogue changelogs from files.wowace that -still- have 000 permissions set, so i can't do anything with them. ><) copying vs zipping my 41mb addons file took comparable ammounts of time, copying was faster, but only by about 5-6 seconds :P |
18:58.14 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: also, parntheses are icky |
18:58.15 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't for BigWigs |
18:58.39 | AnduinLothar | and it doesn't in dr damage |
18:59.29 | hyperChipmunk | "if (self.frame) then" |
19:00.19 | AnduinLothar | parses to the same byte code and it's easier to read |
19:00.40 | AnduinLothar | if you dont liek um, dont use um |
19:01.18 | hyperChipmunk | one of the things i love about lua is it reads nicely; I'll disagree with you about the easier-to-read bit |
19:02.13 | ckknight | the overuse of parentheses can prevent important use of them from popping out at you |
19:02.21 | hyperChipmunk | if used minimally, parens are a great way to mark "here is a function call" |
19:02.33 | sag_ich_nicht | wasn't there an addon for showing a gigantic grid over everything so you could place your addons precicly? |
19:02.48 | sag_ich_nicht | s/addons/frames/ |
19:02.49 | hyperChipmunk | SnapToGrid? |
19:02.52 | AnduinLothar | clad made a stapto or something |
19:03.08 | cladhaire | nah, just stickyframes |
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19:04.02 | abyssichate | ckknight: I've noticed that the frame tooltip sometimes doesn't go away after you move your cursor away from the unit frame, it still shows up unless you don't select something else |
19:04.15 | ckknight | hrm |
19:04.27 | Daemona | sag_ich_nicht its called "align" wowi i think |
19:04.33 | abyssichate | I haven't manage to reproduce it when I wanted it to, it looks random |
19:04.50 | Daemona | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7231-Align.html |
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19:05.05 | abyssichate | It doesn't matter where the frame tooltip is attached too either |
19:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks. |
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19:07.08 | trh_ | Cryect: in "activity" my pet is shown as "1e-018 (100%)" i don't think anyone needs that exact values ;) |
19:07.18 | kergoth | hehe |
19:07.20 | trh_ | Cryect: (in recount :) |
19:07.28 | zac | ckknight: to add onto abyssichate, I have it happen 100% of the time. |
19:07.39 | ckknight | k. |
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19:10.27 | Ominous | evening all |
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19:12.58 | ckknight | hey ominous |
19:13.05 | Ominous | how are you ckknight? |
19:13.15 | ckknight | meh |
19:13.16 | ckknight | fine |
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19:15.50 | abyssichate | ckknight: this is what I meant with the shake you get whenever the left tag returns an empty string: http://wallen.ngi.it/shake.jpg |
19:15.58 | ckknight | oh, I already fixed that |
19:16.01 | abyssichate | oh |
19:16.03 | ckknight | CIA must not be working |
19:16.09 | ckknight | yea, no CIA in the room |
19:16.09 | abyssichate | okei, I am raiding so I didn't really notice |
19:18.30 | ckknight | just make sure to update CowTip and DogTag |
19:19.09 | nevcairiel | ckknight: did you read the last posts in that thread? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40 .. about a possible temp solution for the lockup issue |
19:19.58 | nevcairiel | basicly it says to unregister UNIT_NAME_UPDATE on the headers |
19:20.00 | ckknight | oh, nevcairiel, I already fixed the lockup issues in PitBull |
19:20.05 | ckknight | like... a while ago |
19:20.23 | ckknight | basically, it waits a few seconds to create anything (unless entering combat) |
19:20.31 | ckknight | and then creates them |
19:20.42 | ckknight | also destroys on PLW and recreates a few seconds after PEW |
19:20.46 | ckknight | that seems to handle most things. |
19:21.01 | nevcairiel | well dunno, that fix sounds better then just delaying everything :P |
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19:21.18 | ckknight | does seem alright... |
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19:23.40 | nevcairiel | plus i would have frames again after login in in combat =D |
19:24.36 | trh_ | i wonder how blizzard can argue with Q/A |
19:25.05 | trh_ | they must be apes sitting at computers, otherwise you can't explain errors like that non-showing-petactionbar-in-combat |
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19:29.11 | ckknight | okay, when do I reenable UNIT_NAME_UPDATE? |
19:29.17 | ckknight | never says that |
19:29.29 | nevcairiel | never |
19:29.33 | nevcairiel | its not needed |
19:30.16 | nevcairiel | except when some hunter decides to name his pet |
19:30.31 | nevcairiel | but w/e ^^ |
19:30.33 | ckknight | hrm |
19:30.38 | ckknight | alright then |
19:31.07 | Arrowmaster` | there are mobs that rename themselves |
19:31.23 | nevcairiel | yeah, but target frame has no raidgroupheader |
19:31.25 | nevcairiel | its a unitbutton |
19:31.48 | nevcairiel | and mobs wont generally end up in your group =P |
19:32.35 | Thrae | I'd just make sure you always pass something to your use of UnitName, like UKNOWNBEING (yes, it's spelled this way) |
19:33.03 | Thrae | s/your use/a function using UnitName/ |
19:33.15 | ckknight | well, the name stuff is handled by DogTag anyway for PitBull |
19:33.26 | ckknight | and that's bucketed, so it checks UNIT_NAME_UPDATE lazily |
19:33.29 | Thrae | Including DogTag's usage ;) |
19:33.31 | ckknight | so no problem for me |
19:33.44 | ckknight | actually it names them according to what unit they are |
19:33.51 | ckknight | e.g. raid5 => "Raid member #5" |
19:33.59 | ckknight | if the unit doesn't exist |
19:34.27 | Thrae | Seems overkill even for a slow server, adding more localization |
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19:34.54 | Chompers | ckknight; are the tags "Profession1", "Profession2" and "InInstance" possible? |
19:35.16 | abyssichate | Are the raid icons supported by the way? I didn't really check |
19:35.42 | Trancer | it's a pitty you can't assist by raid icon |
19:35.44 | Chompers | so profs could be shown or have tags hidden while in an instance |
19:36.06 | Thrae | Trancer: People that use raid icons in macros should be setting MT and MA in the same macro |
19:36.07 | abyssichate | it's a pity you can't identify mobs with the same name |
19:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | is there a way to remove the green/red coloring when moving the bars in bartender temporarily? |
19:36.44 | Chompers | could hide the guild of the targeted person |
19:36.53 | sag_ich_nicht | it's annoying when aranging bars that overlap each other and have reduced padding |
19:37.01 | Chompers | while in an instance, if that makes sense |
19:37.15 | Thrae | I'd be cool if everyone in a 5-man group could assign raid targets...is that possible? |
19:37.27 | Trancer | Thrae: that means one needs to grab a different MA constantly |
19:37.35 | Trancer | Thrae: yeah, there is an addon for it |
19:37.40 | Saroz | nevcairiel, doesnt ora2 need the UngisterEvent aswell? for MT frames |
19:37.42 | harl|WoW | *grr* which add-on's that again deactivating my hunter's aspect of the cheetah ? |
19:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: not by default, but with addon-whisper-comm-magic, yeah |
19:37.56 | nevcairiel | Saroz: yeah true, but its only one header .. oh well .. /me adds it |
19:38.01 | Thrae | Trancer: If there's no built-in usage, that'd require addon-to-addon communication, which sucks |
19:38.09 | Trancer | Thrae: MarkMyWords |
19:38.14 | Trancer | Thrae: is what it's called |
19:38.22 | Trancer | Thrae: and yes, it sucks |
19:38.25 | Saroz | nevcairiel, mm, but many use it, so it might be ora2 causing it :) |
19:38.32 | harl|WoW | when combat starts, i don't want it to deactivate my aspect at will |
19:38.51 | Thrae | In a Raid, many more people can set Raid Targets, right? |
19:38.56 | Trancer | Thrae: all I would really like was a /tar or whatever by raid icon |
19:39.10 | Trancer | it can be so frigging hard to get the right target (if you have multiple.. focus left out etc.) |
19:39.16 | Fin | ckknight: mind if I put a check in for a nil value in combatText.lua? |
19:39.18 | Fin | ckknight: http://fin.pastey.net/ |
19:39.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: anyone with assist can,iirc. |
19:39.23 | Trancer | Thrae: whoever is promoted can |
19:39.23 | Fin | err |
19:39.27 | Ominous___ | Fin: !!! |
19:39.28 | kenlyric | Trancer: especially since you can't target through walls anymore. |
19:39.29 | hyperChipmunk | harl|WoW: i don't think you can remove buffs from an addon; check your macros for /cancelaura |
19:39.36 | Trancer | kenlyric: indeed, that change is so annoying |
19:39.36 | sag_ich_nicht | or a way to make the barsize change if you change the padding :O |
19:39.37 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/63959 |
19:39.39 | Fin | duh |
19:39.39 | ckknight | Fin: that link does nothing for me |
19:39.42 | ckknight | :-P |
19:39.44 | kenlyric | picking up ghosts in karazhan is freaking annoying. |
19:39.44 | Fin | Ominous___: I've been waiting for you |
19:39.47 | Trancer | kenlyric: if you are nightelf or human or so .. the SW bank is just horrible :p |
19:39.48 | Fin | ckknight: bah :) |
19:39.51 | Ominous___ | Fin: instance? |
19:39.54 | ckknight | ah, sure, Fin |
19:39.55 | MentalPower|Work | ROFL: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Comments-from-a-Madman.aspx |
19:39.57 | Fin | Ominous___: yeah :) |
19:39.57 | Trancer | you need to pan your camera to target and gossip the banker |
19:40.02 | harl|WoW | hyperChipmunk: i've never used anything like /cancelaura. i know that it's an add-on. |
19:40.06 | Fin | ckknight: great, thanks |
19:40.06 | AnduinLothar | yes you can stil cancil buffs without input afaik |
19:40.13 | Ominous___ | brb |
19:40.16 | AnduinLothar | just cant cast them |
19:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | MentalPower|Work: i saw that, that was beautiful. :) |
19:40.29 | kenlyric | Trancer: I never thought about that being the cause of my annoyance at banks :) |
19:40.39 | hyperChipmunk | then you need to reconsider your choice of addons =x |
19:40.52 | harl|WoW | i know that it's an ace-add-on, too. |
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19:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | BuffProtectorGnome? |
19:41.12 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and chosing the color of the out of range indicator would be nice too :O |
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19:42.31 | hyperChipmunk | then some ball-kicking is in order |
19:42.36 | Trancer | MentalPower|Work: geez! |
19:42.42 | Trancer | MentalPower|Work: that's a nice piece ;-) |
19:43.00 | MentalPower|Work | hehe |
19:43.02 | Trancer | I still like the name " the daily wtf" more than this one >< |
19:43.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone know what the maximum number of characters/bytes/whatever you can pass in a single parameter via POST is? |
19:43.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Trancer: yeah. i'm sad that they changed it |
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19:43.59 | nevcairiel | Saroz: there, agUF and oRA2 got the patch |
19:44.06 | Saroz | nice |
19:44.26 | nevcairiel | i didnt have the bug before, so if anyone had it, please try and see if the lockups are gone |
19:44.34 | Trancer | NightHawkTheSane: it varies per webserver |
19:44.39 | mitch0 | night: depends on server. I don't think there's a protocol set limit |
19:44.49 | NightHawkTheSane | okay |
19:46.17 | trh_ | time to rewrite list synchronizing... :/ |
19:47.18 | Trancer | NightHawkTheSane: looks like apache is on 4 meg, .NET is as well afaik |
19:47.23 | ravagernl | I |
19:47.47 | ravagernl | I've heard of a addon to sync threath 1.0 with ktm, what its called? |
19:47.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Trancer: yeah, I figured if there wasn't a protocol set limit, it'd be fairly sizeable. Probably way more than i'll actually need. :P |
19:47.59 | ckknight | ravagernl: inside Threat-1.0 now. |
19:48.37 | ravagernl | really, because I don't see my tanks threath while he he claims he has ktm |
19:48.42 | Keias | quick CowTip question |
19:48.54 | Keias | In Line Texts, what are the two seperate columns for? |
19:48.55 | ravagernl | s/he he/he/ |
19:48.56 | Trancer | NightHawkTheSane: it's not that flexible btw, IIS can have it set with metabase afaik, apache .. not sure, I believe it was hardcoded |
19:49.14 | Chompers | left/right side of tooltip |
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19:49.47 | Keias | Makes sense, thanks |
19:52.10 | ckknight | okay, I committed a revision to PitBull that makes clusters immediately and doesn't destroy on PEW/PLW |
19:52.18 | ckknight | please test for lockups/crashes/etc |
19:53.49 | sbu | hmm Cryect: ping |
19:55.37 | ravagernl | But I probably haven older revision of violation/threath 1.0 |
19:55.55 | ravagernl | s/haven/have an/ |
19:56.20 | Trancer | hhmhmh... the font in the status box of wowaceupdater got changed, looks horrible now :/ |
19:57.19 | ravagernl | change to trebuchet ms! |
19:57.20 | Trancer | hmm, unhandled exceptions |
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19:57.47 | Trancer | Kaelten: ping |
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19:57.55 | abyssichate | Antiarc: hi! |
19:57.58 | Antiarc | Yo |
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19:58.19 | hyperChipmunk | you suck |
19:58.25 | [Liquidor] | Any GUI tools besides Dew? Kinda need something more than just a tooltip. |
19:58.33 | hyperChipmunk | waterfall |
19:58.35 | hyperChipmunk | tablet |
19:58.36 | ZealotOnAStick | waterfall. |
19:58.57 | abyssichate | I'd like to report something :s, few hours ago, we were raiding SSC: once we reached morogrim, threat-1.0 started to generate a lot of "traffic", everyone in the raid experienced really low framerate (like if pc was memory-swapping) |
19:58.58 | [Liquidor] | Yarr thank j00 |
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19:59.14 | abyssichate | as soon as you left the raid, it'd be ok, the second you joined it again, it was turned bad |
19:59.27 | Antiarc | Hrm. Were you in combat? |
19:59.29 | abyssichate | http://wallen.ngi.it/misc/threat.jpg |
19:59.29 | abyssichate | nop |
19:59.46 | abyssichate | I just relogged there, in 2 minutes threat-1.0 was going literally crazy |
20:00.02 | abyssichate | before I relogged, it reached 10MiB |
20:00.04 | Punkie` | ouch |
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20:00.18 | ckknight | Antiarc: I should do another audit, methinks |
20:00.21 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
20:00.26 | Antiarc | abyssichate: I'm hoping this is related to the mystery Ace library increasing something |
20:00.28 | abyssichate | we had to disable every addon using threat: cowtip, pitbull, violation, omen |
20:00.31 | Fisker- | keys for Quake Wars is going for up to 250$ on ebay |
20:00.32 | Antiarc | But it may be Threat. |
20:00.36 | Punkie` | I'm telling Kenco ! |
20:00.38 | Punkie` | :D |
20:00.39 | Fisker- | they're giving out 60k keys :D |
20:00.39 | Antiarc | :O |
20:00.43 | Fisker- | btw Punkie` i won |
20:00.52 | abyssichate | I am pretty sure it is Threat, once I disabled it, everything was running fine |
20:00.52 | Antiarc | ckknight: Audit away |
20:00.56 | Punkie` | nice, what happened then? |
20:00.59 | ckknight | Antiarc: possibly check if new() is called more often than del |
20:01.03 | Antiarc | Right |
20:01.07 | ckknight | Antiarc: I gotta clean my room first... |
20:01.07 | ckknight | gah |
20:01.10 | Fisker- | Some members has already shown signs of "shit sucks" |
20:01.15 | ckknight | keep getting distracted |
20:01.15 | Antiarc | It may be the KTM stuff that was split out last night |
20:01.19 | Trancer | covered in pizza boxes ckknight? :p |
20:01.31 | [Liquidor] | How does it look like with Waterfall? |
20:01.39 | [Liquidor] | And is it just the opts.table that's needed? :O |
20:02.14 | ckknight | Trancer: no, I'm not fat |
20:02.15 | durcyn | [Liquidor]: you using bigwigs? |
20:02.17 | abyssichate | It seemed fine before reaching Morogrim though |
20:02.28 | Trancer | ckknight: hmm, they should make a low fat pizza |
20:02.29 | durcyn | [Liquidor]: shift-click it for an example waterfall. |
20:02.31 | abyssichate | someone mindvisioned Leo and Karathress - if that matters anything |
20:02.32 | [Liquidor] | durcyn: PvP |
20:02.48 | mitch0 | ckk: is there a toggle function for various frames in pitbull? specifically, something like ToggleRaid() |
20:02.53 | [Liquidor] | I'll install bigwigs just to check it out then |
20:02.56 | sbu | abyssichate: hmm - mind vision can resist... bad idea :o |
20:03.02 | sbu | and then the mob aggros you ;p |
20:03.04 | abyssichate | tell that to our priests :x |
20:03.09 | Saroz | I wish someone would explain this del() new() to me :| |
20:04.05 | harl|WoW | hm hm |
20:04.41 | Antiarc | abyssichate: It shouldn't matter, no |
20:04.50 | Antiarc | abyssichate: How up to date was everyone? |
20:05.43 | Antiarc | abyssichate: And it'd been fine up to that point? |
20:05.50 | [Liquidor] | durcyn: Oh that's the one okay. Although I've always thought of that gui to be fugly :/ |
20:05.52 | Trancer | hmm, one thing about threat, I am not sure if ti changed recently.. when someone comes online with a more recent version than you have, you get a notice... that's all dandy and useful |
20:06.02 | Trancer | however, if many people get online with a diff version you get 1238012 notices |
20:06.11 | Trancer | would be better if it was just show once and not again |
20:06.12 | Antiarc | You get a notice? Where? |
20:06.32 | Antiarc | Omen displays a little string on the frame; Threat doesn't do any kind of notices |
20:06.34 | Trancer | You get a notice like "Threat-1.0 is version xxxx but version xxxxx is released, please update" |
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20:06.42 | Antiarc | Are you using Violation or something? |
20:06.47 | Trancer | Nope, just Omen + Threat |
20:06.54 | Antiarc | Hrm. Lemme look into it. |
20:06.59 | Trancer | and ThreatToKTM in fact |
20:07.05 | abyssichate | Some of us were using old revisions but even after we updated, the issue persisted |
20:07.05 | Antiarc | Aha, that's probably it. |
20:07.13 | Trancer | but afaik it showed before I added that |
20:07.14 | Trancer | let me grep |
20:07.29 | abyssichate | It was fine up to that point, yes, suddenly everybody started laggings, few even disconnected |
20:07.31 | Antiarc | Trancer: You don't need ThreatToKTM anymore - Omen has the option to enable KTM broadcasting in Threat itself now. |
20:07.39 | abyssichate | and then the bad framerate fact started |
20:07.39 | ckknight | mitch0: you go to the menu and disable it |
20:07.46 | Trancer | ah, great |
20:08.00 | sbu | Antiarc: but it is disabled by default? |
20:08.04 | abyssichate | as I said, disabling just threat-1.0 made the trick |
20:08.04 | mitch0 | ckk: I know that. but I'd like a keybinding to toggle raid |
20:08.09 | Antiarc | sbu: It comes toggled on my default in Omen |
20:08.13 | sbu | mhh |
20:08.15 | Antiarc | on by* |
20:08.21 | Antiarc | It's off by default in ThreatLib |
20:08.24 | mitch0 | if there's a toggle function, I can create a macro for it and bind that |
20:08.36 | mitch0 | or I'll create a bindings.xml |
20:08.43 | Adirelle | Antiarc, Trancer: you may want TTK for setting master target (tho /run AceLibrary('ThreatLib'):SetKLHTMMasterTarget() should do the trick :p) |
20:08.53 | abyssichate | I couldn't test much of it either since we had to get the raid going :s |
20:08.53 | sbu | not sure if thats a good idea - i wont ever get ppl to switch over if they can see me in KTM again :p |
20:09.09 | Antiarc | abyssichate: How long had you been in the raid, and was there any event - people joining, etc - that seemed to trigger it? |
20:09.31 | ckknight | mitch0: PitBull:ChangeHidden("raid", false) |
20:09.44 | Antiarc | Adirelle: I'll see about adding a button to Omen |
20:09.49 | ckknight | sbu: off by default |
20:09.57 | Adirelle | Antiarc: rip off what's done in TTK |
20:09.59 | abyssichate | we had been in raid for about one hour and there were no recent events like joining/leaving - we swapped one player about 20 minutes before reaching morogrim where the pain started |
20:10.07 | mitch0 | ckk: but that'll always "show" it |
20:10.08 | Antiarc | Hm. Okay. |
20:10.23 | Antiarc | abyssichate: If you want, install the ViewAddonMessages AddOn. That'll show you addon traffic and should reveal if Threat's going crazy with comm messages |
20:10.26 | ckknight | mitch0: PitBull:ChangeHidden("raid", true) |
20:10.29 | Antiarc | I'll look into it and see what I can find. |
20:10.53 | mitch0 | ckk: would you be so kind as to add a ToggleHidden() aboe that? :) |
20:10.53 | Trancer | Antiarc: I think it's this one: |
20:10.53 | abyssichate | I'll do that if I see that happening again |
20:10.53 | Trancer | ThreatLib:TriggerEvent("Threat_OutOfDateNotice", MINOR_VERSION, latestSeenRevision, latestSeenSender) |
20:11.36 | ckknight | mitch0: PitBull:ChangeHidden("raid") - just committed for that |
20:11.51 | Adirelle | Trancer: ThreatToKTM catchs this and issues the notice you've seen |
20:11.54 | Antiarc | Trancer: Yeah, that's the event, but doesn't priny anything |
20:12.06 | Adirelle | Trancer: does it do it more than one time ? |
20:12.13 | Adirelle | (it shouldn't :/) |
20:12.18 | mitch0 | checking |
20:12.18 | Antiarc | Off to my raid testing environment... |
20:12.22 | Antiarc | ...ALTERAC VALLEY! :D |
20:12.25 | Trancer | Adirelle: yeah it did |
20:12.34 | Trancer | Adirelle: but I didn't update for two days, so it might be fixed/changed |
20:12.47 | Adirelle | Trancer: I meant in a row, with the same revision number ? |
20:12.51 | Trancer | yes |
20:13.00 | Trancer | I got it once some guy got on with a newer version |
20:13.09 | Trancer | then someone else with another version popped on and it showed again |
20:13.55 | mitch0 | uhm. should have updated only pitbull... |
20:14.30 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: Beast Lore makes CowTip cry |
20:14.36 | Trancer | Adirelle: I will install threatoktm and keep an eye on it (And not update it for 2 days or so..) to see if the problem shows up |
20:14.56 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: how so? |
20:15.00 | Trancer | half of the guild uses omen and updates 21313 times a day so.. guess it'll do |
20:15.11 | Adirelle | Trancer: like rN+1, then rN+2 ? |
20:15.14 | hyperChipmunk | Faction: 364-483 Damage |
20:15.20 | Trancer | Adirelle: I think so, not 100% sure |
20:15.30 | hyperChipmunk | and no info about tameability, diet, and tamed abilities |
20:15.48 | Adirelle | Trancer: don't be confused : ThreatLib itself doesn't print anything, it's ThreatToKTM that does |
20:15.58 | Trancer | self:Print("Threat-1.0 revision %s is available for download. You're actually using revision %s. Please consider upgrading.", |
20:15.58 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: bah. some other addon is adding that, aren't they? |
20:15.59 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
20:16.01 | Trancer | it was that one Adirelle |
20:16.06 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
20:16.27 | Adirelle | Trancer: let me check |
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20:17.43 | Adirelle | Trancer: was it so annoying ? like it spammed it every 20 seconds ? |
20:17.47 | Jaxon | hyperChipmunk: no, no other addon does that. Default UI Beast Lore shows diet, damage, armor, hp, (un)tamable |
20:18.01 | Trancer | Adirelle: wasn't that annoying because not many people popped on, but it showed 3 times in an hour |
20:18.12 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: dang... |
20:18.15 | Trancer | Adirelle: however say you had a mass dc on server and you get back in a raid with an out of date version.. |
20:18.21 | Trancer | Adirelle: you get 24 messages or so |
20:18.28 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I don't have a hunter... |
20:18.31 | Trancer | (your own fault, logically, but still) |
20:18.33 | Antiarc | Adirelle: It looks like LoadKLHTMBroadcastSupport isn't prevented from being called multiple times |
20:18.39 | Adirelle | Trancer: only if people in the raid have 24 different revisions |
20:18.40 | Antiarc | I'll add that in |
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20:18.57 | Trancer | not sure about the different revisions, haven't checked that, sorry |
20:20.00 | Adirelle | Trancer: np, but I'm sure : it only notice for *newer* revision that latest seen |
20:20.22 | Trancer | I see |
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20:20.41 | Adirelle | Trancer: e.g. say your Threat is rev 45 (fake numbers), and saw in this order : 38, 47, 45, 45, 49, 49, 38, it will report only 47 and 49 |
20:20.56 | Trancer | yeah, I understand |
20:21.08 | Trancer | ideally it would just state it once though, only for 47 "Your version is out of date, go update" |
20:21.21 | Trancer | if 49 is released, not relevant, still need to update |
20:21.26 | Adirelle | right... |
20:21.37 | Adirelle | I'll fix that this way |
20:22.30 | NightHawkTheSane | wee! new who! |
20:22.32 | hyperChipmunk | Jaxon: i know that |
20:22.38 | Trancer | Adirelle: great :-) |
20:22.40 | hyperChipmunk | I thought ckk did too =P |
20:22.45 | Adirelle | Antiarc: ok |
20:22.54 | Jaxon | hyperChipmunk: message went to wrong person, nevermind me :P |
20:23.09 | hyperChipmunk | i think i may still have my screenshots from tinytip |
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20:23.12 | Adirelle | Antiarc: hmm... what happen if a Threat peer runs an incompatible revision ? |
20:23.26 | Antiarc | They just may get bogus data |
20:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i do |
20:24.20 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/ttipbl.png is a normal beastlore tooltip |
20:24.32 | Adirelle | Antiarc: would mind to add the incompatible revision in the broadcast and send an Threat_NoticeIncompatible event ? |
20:24.56 | Antiarc | Eh. It's not that big of a deal, I think |
20:25.12 | hyperChipmunk | also, my pet's threat is WAAAY high |
20:25.28 | hyperChipmunk | i grab agro at like 20% |
20:25.53 | Adirelle | Antiarc: it depends on people :p |
20:26.05 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: alright... |
20:26.15 | Adirelle | Antiarc: noticing about updated version is one thing, noticing about *your* udpate being incompatible is another one |
20:26.24 | Adirelle | s/update b/version b/ |
20:26.49 | Trancer | hm.. nice description on SRA |
20:26.50 | Wixi | Saroz: (21:23:38) (Kytrarewn) heheheehe... MementoMori is the greatest addon I've ever heard of |
20:26.53 | Trancer | now.. what would it be |
20:26.57 | Saroz | Wixi :p |
20:27.50 | Adirelle | Antiarc: in which scenario would LoadKLHTMBroadcastSupport be called multiple times ? |
20:28.13 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Someone calls ThreatLib:EnableKLHTMBroadcast(true) more than once? |
20:28.35 | Adirelle | Antiarc: if LoadKLHTMBroadcastSupport gets to its end, EnableKLHTMBroadcast is overriden... |
20:28.54 | Adirelle | Antiarc: look at line 196 |
20:28.58 | Antiarc | Oh. Duh. Heh. |
20:29.42 | Trancer | [Ammoo]: what does SRA do? Some new raid addon (looking at code) |
20:29.59 | Adirelle | btw the Enablexd event won't be triggered |
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20:36.20 | Wogroipl | [2007/06/23 22:26:27-387-x5]: PitBull-r41439\PitBull.lua:1455: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "AceEvent_FullyInitialized". "PitBull" is not registered with it. |
20:36.54 | Antiarc | Hm, been through a full AV and Threat hasn't jumped up at all |
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20:36.56 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: want to test the beastlore dealy thing now? |
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20:37.23 | Adirelle | Antiarc: did you see the report about misdirection causing troubles ? |
20:37.29 | Antiarc | No, what was it? |
20:37.50 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: give it to me |
20:37.57 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: just committed |
20:39.01 | hyperChipmunk | much better |
20:39.07 | Saroz | [Ammo], violation is ignoring it's own users.. I got rogues not showing on damagemeters, and it's only rogues using violation |
20:39.08 | ckknight | shows all nice-like? |
20:39.17 | hyperChipmunk | the double health line is a bit redundant though |
20:39.19 | hyperChipmunk | ss inc |
20:39.30 | Garoun|Loupana | Antiarc any idea why Omen occasionally jumps between grow direction? |
20:39.31 | Saroz | [Ammo], it's ignoring healing from violation users aswell |
20:40.00 | Garoun|Loupana | I had it set to Grow Up last night, and every so often it's flip all the bars to grow down for a few seconds |
20:40.06 | Adirelle | Antiarc: people are talking about misdirection causing target's threat to stall |
20:40.12 | Garoun|Loupana | it's/it'd |
20:40.12 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Ooooh. |
20:40.20 | Antiarc | If that's it, awesome. I'll track it down. |
20:40.24 | sag_ich_nicht | nymbia: is there a way to drag quartz bars? because i can't seem to find one D: |
20:40.24 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: http://69.14.77.214/ctipbl.png |
20:40.31 | Antiarc | Garoun|Loupana: Not entirely, but I've seen it |
20:40.38 | Garoun|Loupana | k |
20:40.50 | Adirelle | Antiarc: see the update : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6480.msg113916#msg113916 |
20:40.53 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: basically, it detects beast lore, and if so, just pops all the lines on the end... |
20:41.02 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: can't really think of a better way :-P |
20:41.37 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I figure: live with the redundancy |
20:43.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's not that big a deal |
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20:44.57 | Jaxon | Does anyone know which mod is spamming my guild chat with "Now Queued for 5v5" "We are now in Ruins of Lorderon (9)". A guildmate doesn't know which one to turn off. |
20:45.23 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
20:45.33 | Gnarfoz | Omen: http://ace.pastey.net/64066 |
20:45.47 | sag_ich_nicht | some battleground join sync mod probably Jaxon |
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20:45.59 | Garoun|Loupana | wouldn't devtools tell you want fired off that message? |
20:46.09 | sag_ich_nicht | (although that's an inredibly inefficient protocol if that's it) |
20:46.14 | Garoun|Loupana | want/what |
20:47.06 | sag_ich_nicht | nymbia or anyone else tell me how i drag the castbars in quartz D: |
20:47.10 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: http://ace.pastey.net/64066 < just got that on login |
20:47.43 | Adirelle | Gnarfoz: the joyce of drycode |
20:47.48 | Gnarfoz | heh =) |
20:48.04 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
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20:48.24 | sag_ich_nicht | god screw it i'll just force move them with fluidframes. |
20:48.37 | Adirelle | fixed |
20:51.15 | sag_ich_nicht | okay nevermind |
20:51.26 | dodgizzla | meh, ClassTimer does not remember to not show certain buffs :\ |
20:51.26 | sag_ich_nicht | that lock button should be bigger |
20:51.28 | sag_ich_nicht | by a lot. |
20:51.44 | nymbia | sag_ich_nicht: unlocking em might help |
20:52.53 | Tupsi | cowtip gives a new error now |
20:52.59 | Tupsi | you already got that? |
20:53.27 | Adirelle | Antiarc: quite often, Omen resets window position, and the default position being (0,0) from bottomleft, it is generally under my fuber panel and chat frames :/ |
20:53.35 | Tupsi | http://ace.pastey.net/64074 |
20:53.53 | Antiarc | Adirelle: /omen display center till I figure it out |
20:54.01 | Adirelle | \o/ |
20:54.35 | Adirelle | Tupsi: http://ace.pastey.net/64078 |
20:56.06 | Tupsi | looks like that deformat is missing? |
20:57.49 | Gnarfoz | hm, I never followed it up, but can you specialize in elixirs or potions, and then just re-specialize just for the money to say, transmute spec? |
20:57.56 | Fisker- | man |
20:57.59 | Fisker- | doctor who was fappable |
20:58.02 | Tupsi | yeah, when i add deformat as statealone its working |
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20:58.15 | Tupsi | its not referenced in the current cowtip.toc though |
20:58.23 | Tupsi | and not included in the latest package |
20:58.39 | Tupsi | Adirelle : thats what i ment |
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21:02.01 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, is there a way to create a macro that will on the first press cast a spell, on the second either cancel casting if there is anything currently casting or cast that spell again if there is nothing casting currently? |
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21:02.59 | Keias | Is there a way to show a healthbar with CowTip? |
21:05.14 | Garoun|Loupana | sag: only modifier I know of is channeling, I don't think there is one for casting |
21:05.27 | Daemona | same thought as Loupana |
21:05.53 | ckknight | Keias: not yet |
21:05.57 | Garoun|Loupana | which spell are you trying to use sag? |
21:06.00 | ckknight | Keias: mind adding it to the wish list? |
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21:07.05 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: ping ? |
21:07.17 | trh | anyone who feels like editing the wowace.com wiki should update the "WHISPER" section of http://wowace.com/wiki/AceComm-2.0 to indicate that it's sent via the WHISPER addon channel and not via normal whisper adding a / |
21:07.53 | sag_ich_nicht | trh does that mean you just figured that out and will change vanaskos functionality? :P |
21:08.55 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: nope, i'm rewriting the synchronizer module... but as it'll implement diff list sending i'll sometime add it too distributed tracking too |
21:08.57 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: pong |
21:09.25 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: I'm playing around with the showing/hiding of button, to make "pass-through" bars |
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21:09.57 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: if I got it, the trouble is when switching bars, that's it ? |
21:10.07 | ckknight | trh: yea, I'll fix it |
21:10.25 | nevcairiel | switching bars can prolly be dealt with, using the stateheader |
21:10.40 | nevcairiel | real trouble is, picking up a spell in combat, you cannot place it again |
21:10.57 | trh | ckknight: nice, i'd have done it if my english was better :) |
21:11.06 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: okay, so I'll try add an "combat lock" option |
21:11.32 | nevcairiel | ive thought about it |
21:11.41 | nevcairiel | do you really change buttons in combat? |
21:12.00 | nevcairiel | i know i do sometimes .. but only if i forgot something before .. so dunno |
21:12.18 | Adirelle | Me ? never, in fact I'd prefer |
21:12.44 | Adirelle | I'd prefer button to stay in place to prevent losing something (shift is my push-to-talk key :/) |
21:13.17 | Garoun|Loupana | the next thing I have to figure out is why bartender3 is missing some pet actions during Chess event |
21:13.35 | Jaxon | I've never had problems with it. |
21:13.51 | Garoun|Loupana | it hasn't started happening until recently |
21:14.14 | Garoun|Loupana | wonder if blizzard removed the passive/aggressive/defensive actions from Chess peices |
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21:14.46 | kebinusan | For some reason on chess I have problems with the moving reticle disappearing real fast |
21:14.53 | kebinusan | I havent figured out what mod was causing it |
21:14.58 | Garoun|Loupana | I think that is a blizzard bug |
21:15.17 | sbu | sag_ich_nicht: /quartz -> player -> lock |
21:15.22 | trh | ckknight: while you're on it - the first source code example in the RegisterMemoizations sections misses () around the list of memoizations |
21:15.25 | Garoun|Loupana | it happens typically when you get hit by something while trying to use the ground target |
21:15.29 | ZealotOnAStick | it's fixed, or at least greatly improved, in 2.1.2 |
21:15.30 | sbu | arrg |
21:15.36 | ckknight | trh: hehe, no it doesn't ;-) |
21:15.37 | sbu | didnt scroll down :o |
21:15.38 | ZealotOnAStick | and yes, they removed the stance options on the pieces. |
21:15.57 | trh | ckknight: oh.. so lua allows function calls without ()? =) |
21:15.59 | ZealotOnAStick | They're default aggro, and will auto-attack any enemy piece in the square in front of them. |
21:16.04 | Garoun|Loupana | and that sucks Zealot :P I liked hitting passive if I needed to quickly exit a peice |
21:16.05 | ckknight | trh: for strings and tables |
21:16.09 | trh | ckknight: ah =) |
21:16.13 | trh | ckknight: but it looks weird ;) |
21:16.18 | ckknight | trh: e.g. print "hello world" is the same as trh("hello world") |
21:16.37 | trh | ckknight: ya.. i guessed that after you said.. basic style ;) |
21:16.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:15] <sbu> sag_ich_nicht: /quartz -> player -> lock <--yeah i figured it out, thanks :O |
21:17.16 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:05] <Garoun|Loupana> sag: only modifier I know of is channeling, I don't think there is one for casting <--mhm, is there a reason for there not being one for casting? because if there isn't i'd like to ask someone to post a request for it on the forums :O |
21:19.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:08] <trh> sag_ich_nicht: nope, i'm rewriting the synchronizer module... but as it'll implement diff list sending i'll sometime add it too distributed tracking too <--god. |
21:19.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *good. |
21:19.18 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
21:27.54 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: It don't have a clue how to use the state driver to hide/show the right button on page swapping :/ |
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21:29.15 | nevcairiel | well i do |
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21:29.18 | nevcairiel | :) |
21:29.37 | nevcairiel | i even had it written for bartender4 already, but i am not sure if i will use it |
21:29.56 | Ominous_ | bt4 oO |
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21:32.41 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: anyway, here is what I done to achieve what I wanted : http://ace.pastey.net/64146 |
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21:33.51 | trh | ckknight: do you maybe know how big the communication cache in acecomm is? :) |
21:34.21 | hyperChipmunk | you can only have 255 chars total in a comm event |
21:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | if that's what you mean |
21:34.47 | trh | i meant more like how many kb's i could acecomm tell to send |
21:34.54 | trh | without having it blocking the call |
21:35.47 | sag_ich_nicht | trh: it would only delay it iirc |
21:36.09 | hyperChipmunk | 2, probably, unless there's some compression |
21:36.39 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: blocking = like in socket programming blocking calls until send complete =) |
21:36.44 | Mikk | the acecomm communications cache is infinitely large |
21:36.52 | Mikk | it just feeds stuff to chatthrottlelib |
21:36.59 | Mikk | which doesn't have a max queue size |
21:37.04 | trh | Mikk: thanks :) |
21:38.02 | trh | i had a strange problem with acecomm yesterday, when i sent a big table (like 300 entries with alot of data in it) via acecomm on my computer it worked, on the computer of a friend it crashed |
21:38.04 | Saroz | ckknight, gonna look at that module/banzai thing soon? |
21:38.10 | trh | (err.. not crashed.. disconnected) |
21:38.40 | Mikk | sigh... looks like not even 800CPS is safe |
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21:38.47 | Mikk | on most servers you can send 2000cps just fine |
21:38.54 | Mikk | but there's crap ones that ... well... bleh |
21:38.57 | trh | Mikk: well.. the strange thing is that it worked with his account on my computer |
21:39.03 | Mikk | o.O |
21:39.05 | trh | Mikk: with not a single other addon running (on both computerS) |
21:39.12 | trh | Mikk: one discs, other one doesn't |
21:39.25 | Mikk | trh: what's your internet connection, and what's his? |
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21:39.46 | trh | Mikk: 1mbit upstream, both - it's the same line.. (was my flatmate) |
21:40.05 | Mikk | err doh |
21:40.09 | trh | Mikk: only difference is that i'm using vista, he uses xp |
21:40.31 | ckknight | Saroz: I looked, it seemed to be fine |
21:40.42 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 error in blizzards coding. |
21:40.49 | Saroz | ckknight, but it isnt :p |
21:40.50 | ckknight | trh: oh, I think somewhere along the like of 60 KiB effectively |
21:41.07 | trh | Mikk: it gets even stranger: when he sent the same list using my account (on his computer where it disced with his account), it worked with mine |
21:41.15 | ckknight | trh: the theoretical max is 256^2, but there's a bit of extra metadata |
21:41.15 | Saroz | ckknight, unchecked banzai in modules, but still it colors frames red |
21:41.17 | trh | ckknight: no, it's 100kb/s upload =) |
21:41.23 | ckknight | oh, that. |
21:41.25 | Saroz | ckknight, it doesn't seem to "unload" it correctly |
21:41.34 | ckknight | Saroz: oh, okay. |
21:41.38 | ckknight | Saroz: I'll check it out. |
21:41.42 | Saroz | ckknight, thx |
21:41.49 | trh | ckknight: but the data didn't exceed 60kb i guess |
21:41.58 | trh | ckknight: more like 300 table entries a 100bytes or sth |
21:42.37 | trh | ckknight: i wonder if a illegal char in the table could have caused this somehow? |
21:42.50 | Mikk | trh: check out the bottom of AceComm. ChatThrottleLib lives there |
21:43.00 | Mikk | it has a MAX_CPS setting that you can tweak via /script commands |
21:43.07 | trh | Mikk: ya, we tweaked that one too |
21:43.17 | trh | Mikk: to 500 cps and burst the half of the original value |
21:43.20 | trh | Mikk: didn't worked |
21:43.31 | Mikk | whoa |
21:43.38 | Mikk | that would suggest it's not cps related |
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21:44.09 | trh | Mikk: ya.. i ruled out illegal characters/generic acecomm errors because it worked on my client |
21:45.11 | Morix | hi all:) have hear that is a new addon that is better then swstats? |
21:45.26 | trh | Morix: try violation, recount or recap ;) |
21:45.53 | Morix | oki :) i will test |
21:46.20 | trh | Mikk: i think that maybe the lua implementation in wow somehow caused it - using different buffers under vista/xp or sth |
21:46.24 | trh | buffer sizes |
21:46.52 | trh | Mikk: or the communication stack of wow |
21:47.13 | trh | Mikk: or the connection of it to lua.. i don't know.. |
21:47.30 | trh | no other explanation... there should be a error message on disconnects, why the disconnect happened |
21:47.34 | Mikk | well the wow engine won't be different |
21:47.41 | Mikk | the vista tcp stack could be different |
21:47.43 | trh | like 'server spamming', 'same account logged in' |
21:48.27 | Dustwhisper | Is there any Raidmeters/tool that will accurately show Banish/Sheep per lock/mage on mobname? |
21:48.36 | trh | Mikk: true, but why would wow disconnect and not just wait for the tcp stack to be ready again? |
21:49.22 | trh | anyway |
21:49.40 | Uhuru | someone can advice me a good dps / heal monitor ace addon ? |
21:49.50 | trh | i'm now gonna send seperate messages for each entry in that list with memoized |
21:50.01 | Uhuru | nevcairiel : ping |
21:50.05 | Dustwhisper | Recount Uhuru tbh |
21:50.07 | trh | +strings |
21:50.20 | AnduinLothar | how are text fields supposed to work when t.get == false? "no get function, acts like an execute that takes parameters." doesn't make any sense to me. |
21:50.41 | Uhuru | Dustwhisper it works for group / raid ? |
21:51.00 | Dustwhisper | yes |
21:51.04 | Uhuru | k thx |
21:51.06 | trh | AnduinLothar: get is a field in the table t which can contain anything? |
21:51.09 | Dustwhisper | set your combatlog to 200yards though |
21:51.14 | Dustwhisper | what I do is simple |
21:51.20 | Dustwhisper | I run both SWStats and recount at same time |
21:51.24 | Dustwhisper | cause most in raid uses Swstats |
21:51.25 | AnduinLothar | trh: no in the ace options table |
21:51.58 | Uhuru | i use simplecombatlog |
21:51.58 | Dustwhisper | and i know if they show the same DPS then the data for that person is 100% accurate |
21:51.58 | Dustwhisper | simplecombatlog is a combatlog |
21:51.58 | Dustwhisper | not a monitor/meter |
21:51.58 | trh | AnduinLothar: if get == false, set is called with parameter |
21:52.07 | Uhuru | how to set combatlog to 200 yards please ? |
21:52.08 | trh | AnduinLothar: and the text to enter is always empty if you open the menu |
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21:52.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: what are the points at which the memory usage number turns yellow/red in performancefu? |
21:53.05 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: 20 and 30 I think |
21:53.09 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
21:53.11 | vithos | Antiarc: i think pet growl's threat is way too high (running r41446). what would be a good way to provide you with data to analyze? |
21:53.14 | AnduinLothar | set is usually called with the passed parameter isn't it? so get==false just means it starts empty? |
21:53.17 | ckknight | something like that |
21:53.25 | sag_ich_nicht | 105 MB of usesage and 60 fps |
21:53.26 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
21:53.28 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: right. |
21:53.33 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: *shrug* |
21:53.35 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: sick ;) |
21:53.37 | Dustwhisper | I use a nice mod for it |
21:53.41 | Dustwhisper | Violation_CombatLogRange |
21:53.48 | Dustwhisper | automaticly sets combatlog to 200yards when in a party/raid |
21:53.55 | Antiarc | vithos: I know what the problem is - just have to test it :) |
21:54.06 | trh | AnduinLothar: yep.. as i said :) |
21:54.09 | Antiarc | I made a drycode change yesterday that has problems |
21:54.33 | trh | drycoding sucks ;) |
21:54.51 | trh | although we were very successfull at a experimential software engineering project for the university |
21:54.52 | Uhuru | Dustwhisper k thx, you tried Violation in place of recount ? |
21:54.55 | starlon | what buff bars are people using? |
21:54.58 | Dustwhisper | yes i have |
21:54.58 | trh | no runtime tests at all, completly drycoded |
21:55.02 | trh | only 3 hours to debug it :) |
21:55.07 | Dustwhisper | I tried recount, violation and assessment |
21:55.13 | Dustwhisper | and recap |
21:55.14 | Uhuru | recount is better ? |
21:55.14 | trh | (after we were allowed to compile and run it :) |
21:55.26 | Dustwhisper | recount is in my opinion much better |
21:55.30 | Dustwhisper | tbh i hate the violation gui |
21:55.34 | trh | but it takes alot more memory :) |
21:55.38 | trh | (recount) |
21:55.40 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/wowace/june2.html |
21:55.43 | Dustwhisper | that it does |
21:55.50 | Uhuru | ok il will try it :) |
21:55.51 | trh | it gets easily to use 8mb alone |
21:55.56 | trh | but it's just pretty :) |
21:56.00 | vithos | Antiarc: oh alright, cool. and btw, i'm loving threat so far :D great work! |
21:56.07 | Antiarc | Thanks :) |
21:56.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: thats rather nice lookign |
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21:57.16 | Dustwhisper | can you soon spesify the "blink %" on threatbars on Omen? |
21:57.21 | NightHawkTheSane | "So america is completely in charge?" "Since Britain elected an ass? Yes." |
21:57.28 | Dustwhisper | aaaaaaaaaaand is the Dragout bars fixed so the dragged out person isnt fucked on the threatmeter ? |
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22:02.51 | Dustwhisper | has cartographer gotten fixed? instancemaps doesnt show for me inn it |
22:03.08 | NightHawkTheSane | tennent is so awesome. |
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22:03.24 | Mikk | AGAIN? I fixed that long ago |
22:05.05 | Dustwhisper | well i hadnt updated in a week or two |
22:05.06 | Dustwhisper | but yea |
22:05.15 | Dustwhisper | and i never could find outdoor bosses on it either |
22:05.29 | Dustwhisper | Is there any Raidmeters/tool that will accurately show Banish/Sheep per lock/mage on mobname? |
22:05.36 | Dustwhisper | that is "non harmfull spells" |
22:06.21 | nymbia | . |
22:07.10 | ckknight | Dustwhisper: update, it works for me. |
22:07.59 | Dustwhisper | i just did ill check now |
22:08.10 | Dustwhisper | testing latest ver of recount aswell, hadnt updated it in a couple weeks |
22:08.14 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
22:08.16 | Dustwhisper | i do prefer recaps UI over recount |
22:08.17 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
22:08.20 | Dustwhisper | but i still think recount is better |
22:08.28 | sag_ich_nicht | wait, wrong channel |
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22:12.47 | Dustwhisper | and even another quest |
22:12.56 | Dustwhisper | arkInventory gotten fixed so you can have vertical sections instead? |
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22:13.50 | Mech0z | Cryect would it be possible to track none shammyes windfury procs? |
22:13.56 | Mech0z | or "extra attacks" |
22:14.07 | Mech0z | probobly cant track wf alone :/ |
22:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel a simple request, add an option to choose the color and alpha level of the out of range coloring in bartender? |
22:14.35 | sag_ich_nicht | s/add/could you please add/ |
22:15.05 | ckknight | Antiarc: your guild seems very interested in helping with an RP mod |
22:15.18 | ckknight | oh, you're Auryon |
22:15.27 | Antiarc | Ya |
22:15.35 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
22:15.37 | Antiarc | Testing hunter crap |
22:15.59 | hyperChipmunk | hunters aren't crap! you're crap! |
22:16.19 | ravagernl | hunters roxorzboxorz |
22:16.48 | ckknight | ur mom's crap |
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22:19.33 | Tupsi | hmm classtimer stoped showing my battle shout timer bar, ist that a new "feature"? |
22:19.35 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r85 10/branches/TinyTip: Created folder remotely |
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22:22.40 | Mech0z | Cryect are you implementing a merge pet player anytime soon (I know its still new but would be awesome :p) |
22:23.14 | sag_ich_nicht | also make it default |
22:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | that's important. |
22:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
22:23.53 | Mech0z | well if its set as default, then make a pettap in the details window |
22:23.57 | Mech0z | so its seperated inthere |
22:24.55 | Daemona | Need a tip on an Inventory mod, currently using OneBag and affiliates, but i need something to sword e.g. by resistance, closetgnome set tag, etc... my inventory is far too busy, and cross-char bank/bag access :X |
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22:25.09 | Daemona | s/sword/sort |
22:25.28 | Trancer | hmm, Ace2-OO from the packages has been complaining about needing Dewdrop for a while (FubarPlugin needs it apparently) |
22:25.49 | Mech0z | Daemona try arkinventory |
22:25.54 | Mech0z | but think its not very lightweight |
22:26.02 | Daemona | i dont mind, i need functionality |
22:26.08 | Mech0z | it have that |
22:26.19 | Daemona | does it have cross-char bank/bags ? |
22:26.24 | Mech0z | like you can make a tap called "things I love" and put wierd stuf in it |
22:26.38 | Mech0z | yes as long as they are on the same realm |
22:26.50 | Daemona | time to switch then :/ |
22:27.01 | Trancer | Ace-OO-2.0\Ace-OO-2.0.lua:627: FuBarPlugin-2.0: FuBarPlugin requires Dewdrop-2.0. |
22:27.04 | Daemona | my bags are so busy during raiding i get lost with sorting and finding stuff in bags / banks |
22:27.07 | Tupsi | Daemona : it has everything |
22:27.44 | Mech0z | Tupsi ark? |
22:28.27 | Tupsi | yes |
22:28.45 | Tupsi | well at least i dont miss anything yet .-) |
22:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: you might try Baggins. It's a beast to set up, but extremely powerful and configurable. Though you can't view your bank remotely, or other characters, so pairing it with something like Sanity2 is good. |
22:29.06 | Daemona | guess i'll try both |
22:29.10 | Trancer | oh great, it's a package lacking dewdrop but having fubarplugin, yay for having without external |
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22:30.11 | nevcairiel | does anyone know a simple addon that shows the diminishing returns on a target? like i cyclone a player, and i want to know when DR has worn off? |
22:30.21 | Chompers | ckknight; the jumping bugs fixed, ty |
22:30.26 | ckknight | :-) |
22:30.53 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: natur enemy castbar |
22:33.41 | Morghus | KC_Items isn't loading the Fence module. Something I'm doing wrong? |
22:34.51 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: my party frame(s) show "party member #2" for my party member oO |
22:34.59 | ckknight | hrm... |
22:35.29 | Trancer | I found a bug in Prat |
22:35.38 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: any idea on how to reproduce? |
22:35.39 | Trancer | who should I bug with that? |
22:35.51 | Mech0z | other than Icehud any good ace huds? |
22:36.16 | Mech0z | with inbuild threat1.0 support ?!? |
22:36.45 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: dunno, am doing arena match after arena match |
22:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | Mech0z: try archud |
22:36.53 | Gnarfoz | after one, it suddenly showed that instead of the name |
22:37.02 | Trancer | hm.. where in an ace module is specified which libraries it needs? |
22:37.11 | Trancer | (so WAU knows what the externals are that it has to fetch) |
22:37.20 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: k, making a commit to DogTag |
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22:37.46 | Gnarfoz | heh, it's back to normal after this match now (persisted for 2 joins and two leaves before that now) |
22:38.01 | Awaa | Trancer: the .toc file |
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22:38.48 | Trancer | Hmm, strange, Dewdrop is listed there, but it's not downloaded |
22:39.43 | Wixi | Tupsi: Did you find a solution to B/Shout on Classtimers? |
22:39.43 | Trancer | perhaps it should be under optional deps? |
22:39.44 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
22:40.20 | Trancer | I'll wait for sylvanaar I guess |
22:40.41 | Trancer | or Fin, perhaps |
22:40.49 | Trancer | (cheesy hilight) |
22:42.05 | Tupsi | Wixi : no |
22:42.16 | Tupsi | have not looked at it yet though |
22:42.26 | Tupsi | dont have an error in bugsack |
22:42.33 | Trancer | hmm ckknight, topic needs an update, no? WAU 1.9 is released |
22:42.40 | ckknight | not it |
22:42.44 | ckknight | bug Kaelten |
22:43.10 | Tupsi | hmm thats odd |
22:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
22:43.19 | sag_ich_nicht | what happened to HealComm-2.0 ? |
22:43.20 | Tupsi | its not in the buff timer list anymore |
22:43.31 | Trancer | Kaelten: also http://crazy.mofo.nl/~trancer/wauerror.txt |
22:43.33 | Tupsi | when i do /ct to open config |
22:43.41 | Wixi | Tupsi: Lol i just noticed that too |
22:43.44 | Kaelten | Trancer: put it on trac |
22:44.23 | Trancer | will make a ticket |
22:44.32 | Tupsi | so its a "feature change" it seems .-( |
22:45.25 | Tupsi | who is the dev of ct? |
22:45.41 | Mikk | cide |
22:45.43 | Tupsi | Ominous : it seems?` |
22:45.48 | Mikk | he hangs out in #wowi-lounge |
22:46.17 | Tupsi | Mikk : was that a response to my question? |
22:46.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i have an addon here(visualheal) that has it embbeded and the addon isn't on the svn so i can't just install it as no-ext and everything it has embedded is available on the SVN except for HealComm-2.0, so has HealComm-2.0 been replaced or should i just keep it in as embedded and remove the other embedded ones only? >.> |
22:46.35 | Mikk | Tupsi: yes |
22:46.44 | Tupsi | thanks |
22:46.54 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/output.html |
22:47.04 | Trancer | Kaelten: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1138 |
22:47.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: awesome. |
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22:48.00 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: keep healcomm embedded imo |
22:48.22 | trh | Kaelten: awesomeČ |
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22:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd still like to know why it isn't available from files.wowace.com and the documentation site is gone from the wiki as well D: |
22:48.39 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: you have my pet gaining like 3k threat on a growl |
22:49.20 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Updated in the last half hour? |
22:49.42 | sag_ich_nicht | anything else i should pay attention to when turning the addon into a no-ext version? >.> |
22:49.43 | Trancer | can anyone update the Prat.toc? |
22:49.49 | hyperChipmunk | oh, no |
22:49.52 | Trancer | it must have DewdropLib in optionaldeps in .toc |
22:49.55 | Trancer | it doesn't atm |
22:50.11 | Trancer | so if you use a version with external you get an error about Dewdrop missing |
22:50.16 | hyperChipmunk | what's the entrance to nax? |
22:50.25 | sag_ich_nicht | teleporter in WPL |
22:50.27 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
22:50.28 | sag_ich_nicht | EPL |
22:50.41 | hyperChipmunk | looks like it should be this mark of detonation thing |
22:50.44 | hyperChipmunk | but it don't do anything |
22:50.45 | Trancer | it's one of those portal thingies in front of Stratholme, in plaguewood |
22:51.00 | hyperChipmunk | hm k |
22:51.01 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: just follow the road to strath, it's on the right to it |
22:51.05 | durcyn | epl 40,26, to be more precise |
22:51.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't really miss it |
22:51.11 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
22:51.14 | sag_ich_nicht | didn't have the client open |
22:51.18 | sag_ich_nicht | now |
22:51.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:49] <sag_ich_nicht> anything else i should pay attention to when turning the addon into a no-ext version? >.> |
22:53.41 | hyperChipmunk | ,aha |
22:54.10 | vithos | asdf. DBM's /rangecheck means i can't configure RangeCheck :( |
22:55.08 | ckknight | update CowTip if you want to mess with the positioning stuff |
22:55.11 | ckknight | I added some niceties |
22:55.32 | Chompers | yay! |
22:55.43 | Chompers | i've got a few guildies using it |
22:55.53 | Chompers | soon everyone will use it |
22:56.49 | Wixi | DogTags confuzzles me lol |
22:57.42 | Morghus | I tested it out, but old TinyTip's still covering everything I need. |
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22:58.59 | Antiarc | ^([0-9]+\.[0-9]+).*?([0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}).*?\/200.*?GET http:\/\/.*?\/([^\/]*?)[\/ ].*?\/ <-- epix regex |
22:59.23 | Trancer | Hehehe |
22:59.32 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not epic |
23:00.25 | NightHawkTheSane | THIS is epic: http://textsnippets.com/posts/show/42 |
23:00.45 | zac | Is there a way to get DifficultyColor to work for even friendly players? |
23:01.16 | Trancer | NightHawkTheSane: holy crap. |
23:02.57 | Trancer | Antiarc: parsing apache logs? |
23:03.15 | Antiarc | Trancer: Squid logs, actually |
23:03.25 | Trancer | ah |
23:03.30 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: That's just excessive. |
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23:03.44 | kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane: holy cow |
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23:04.06 | Trancer | I guess it applies the same logic to every char of an email addy over and over.. (255 times) |
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23:05.13 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: who wha? |
23:06.11 | Antiarc | Sorry, meant NightHawkTheSane |
23:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yes, it is excessive. and no one in their right mind should use it. but damn if it's not epic. :p |
23:07.34 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: That's epic in the same way http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31328 is epic. |
23:07.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: lol, yeah. :P |
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23:08.43 | Trancer | heh, those got a 'small' boost in 2.1 |
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23:12.22 | ravagernl | damn, I wan that |
23:12.34 | Trancer | farm money and hunt the AH :p |
23:13.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh wow |
23:13.08 | hyperChipmunk | those got boosted quite a bit O_o |
23:13.09 | ravagernl | 0.00000001 chance to drop :| |
23:13.45 | hyperChipmunk | now i need those |
23:13.52 | hyperChipmunk | finally a real hunter item |
23:13.55 | hyperChipmunk | agi and sta |
23:13.59 | hyperChipmunk | gimmeh |
23:14.34 | Codayus | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6935.0;topicseen |
23:14.36 | Codayus | Sometimes... |
23:14.46 | Codayus | ...I despair for humanity. |
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23:15.02 | nymbia | lol |
23:15.21 | durcyn | don't.. humanity doesn't deserve it. |
23:16.09 | Trancer | as a great bash.org states: <xterm> The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? |
23:16.16 | Trancer | humanity can not be saved |
23:16.24 | Codayus | I tried to write a reply, but gave up after a few attempts. They all just devolved into insults. :-( |
23:16.30 | Trancer | so help people by removing labels ;-) |
23:17.06 | ravagernl | gah |
23:18.04 | ravagernl | I think "You are stupid." is polite enough :P |
23:18.20 | Slayman2 | it's at the border of politeness |
23:18.28 | Slayman2 | the outer one that is |
23:18.55 | Codayus | Yeah...well. The real issue is where to START? |
23:19.06 | Codayus | There's just so much wrong with the post. |
23:19.31 | Codayus | You're right, "You are stupid." does pretty much cover it though. |
23:19.48 | Slayman2 | I heard there are people who don't know what being an Ace Addon really means |
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23:19.58 | Slayman2 | and dazeal is their official CEO |
23:20.12 | durcyn | eh, no reason to harp on it. |
23:20.23 | Codayus | Well, check out the posters history; he's the one who posted something a couple days ago asking people to help him convince his guildmembers that Ace2 mods didn't contain viruses. |
23:20.50 | Codayus | And keyloggers. |
23:21.04 | Codayus | Mmm, ignoring it is probably best... |
23:21.46 | Azurewrath | haha.. just read the posting.. "You are stupid." covers it :) |
23:22.02 | Slayman | tell him they are viruses, trojans, wurms(got to be worms i believe), keyloggers and black holes for data |
23:22.11 | Slayman | he will be gone afterwards :D |
23:22.42 | ravagernl | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6921.0 omg! |
23:24.13 | Mikk | wtf you can't SetLootThreshold(1) anymore =( |
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23:24.32 | Codayus | Mikk: Yeah, probably to fix the Vashj "exploit". |
23:24.49 | Codayus | Annoying. |
23:25.18 | Slayman | Mikk: wasn't that SetMasterLootThreshold(1) ? |
23:26.31 | Mikk | no, that function doesn't exist |
23:26.51 | Mikk | the same threshold is applied to group loot |
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23:27.28 | Codayus | Kinda nice for some stuff. :-/ |
23:27.29 | kebinusan | On the bright side, marks of ilidiari are green now tho |
23:27.52 | Slayman | i see, i got confused, nevermind |
23:28.03 | kebinusan | You can still SetLoot Threshold() just not 0 or 1 |
23:29.06 | Antiarc | ckknight: AceLibrary is growing at about a rate of 1kb/s just sitting still. |
23:29.15 | Slayman | what's the patchlvl 2.1.2 ? |
23:29.15 | Antiarc | I have all the ace libs running as their own addons |
23:29.21 | ckknight | hrm... |
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23:29.37 | Antiarc | It's at 409kb right now |
23:29.46 | Antiarc | +275kb according to PerformanceFu |
23:29.55 | Antiarc | 413 |
23:30.02 | ckknight | I don't like the memory profiling system |
23:30.07 | Antiarc | Growing and growing. |
23:30.08 | ckknight | it works through taint, not by function |
23:30.10 | Antiarc | What would cause that? |
23:30.15 | ckknight | so it's likely _not_ AceLibrary |
23:30.21 | Antiarc | 420 kb |
23:30.26 | ckknight | Antiarc: something that does AceLibrary("blah"); nowDoSomething() |
23:30.34 | Antiarc | Mmm. Okay. |
23:30.48 | Antiarc | I'm running pretty stripped down |
23:30.54 | Antiarc | I'll see if I can locate it. |
23:31.16 | Antiarc | Forcing a collection certainly fixes it. |
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23:32.24 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/output.html< updated to show estimated updater user count |
23:32.27 | ckknight | brb |
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23:40.21 | Antiarc | Looks like it's Threat or one of the libs it's using. |
23:41.30 | Antiarc | Likely in the comms handling |
23:42.42 | nevcairiel | btw, did anyone update agUF and sRF today and tried reproducing the lockup issue ? ^^ |
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23:47.38 | ckknight | nevcairiel: or PitBull |
23:48.18 | Slayman | can one change the fontsize from cowtip apart from the general scaling? |
23:48.18 | nevcairiel | ckknight: yeah well you had a workaround before :) |
23:48.30 | ckknight | nevcairiel: and I took it out |
23:48.37 | ckknight | Slayman: nope |
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23:49.16 | sbu | hm, can you re-learn tailoring specialization? |
23:49.30 | trh | i heard you can |
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23:50.08 | Keias | sbu, do you mean like dropping Shadowcloth spec for Spellcloth? |
23:50.23 | sbu | right |
23:50.31 | Arrowmaster | you can, talk to the npcs that game you the spec |
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23:50.56 | Mellow_ | but you have to learn from the tailor from 0, dont you? |
23:51.23 | Mellow_ | -from |
23:51.25 | kenlyric | relearning a specialty? nope. Just pay 170g. |
23:51.42 | trh | kenlyric: can you do it as often as you want? |
23:51.46 | Mellow_ | for 170g you can change the spec? |
23:51.48 | Arrowmaster | yes |
23:51.50 | kenlyric | I haven't tried more than once |
23:52.00 | kenlyric | but I just did it a few days ago, 150g to unlearn, 20g to learn again. |
23:52.07 | kenlyric | didn't lose a single recipe |
23:52.09 | ckknight | what do I call the module that makes CowTip look different? e.g. change border/background/size |
23:52.25 | sbu | 150 sounds okay, its higher than price for 1 piece of cloth |
23:52.48 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: CowBrand? |
23:52.52 | Slayman | ckknight: : as in not yet or not going to happen? |
23:52.55 | ckknight | no, not a funny name |
23:52.58 | kenlyric | it's reasonably annoying, without being completely craptastic (like other professions :) |
23:53.01 | ckknight | Slayman: um, what? |
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23:53.12 | Slayman | ckknight: : > can one change the fontsize from cowtip apart from the general scaling? |
23:53.19 | ckknight | Slayman: one can't |
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23:53.25 | ckknight | nor will I add it |
23:53.28 | ckknight | too complex |
23:53.30 | ckknight | imho. |
23:53.55 | kaiden | Anyone know of a trinket that launches you extremely far forward shooting fire out of your rear and making you spin as you are about to land |
23:54.09 | kaiden | i'm watching this pvp video and i've never seen it and was wondering wtf it was because it looks fun |
23:54.10 | kaiden | heh :P |
23:54.21 | kaiden | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=42213&mirror=4 at 14mins 24 seconds or so |
23:54.36 | kenlyric | cowtip_visualelements, only, less obtuse than that. |
23:54.47 | dodgizzla | hrmpf |
23:54.57 | dodgizzla | I really like ClassTimers, but that Sticky bars are just buggy :D |
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23:55.27 | ckknight | kenlyric: thinking of "Looks" |
23:55.30 | hyperChipmunk | kaiden: mortar reload failure? |
23:55.51 | kenlyric | "layout" is good, but loaded with extra meaning in ace mods. |
23:56.10 | kenlyric | Looks works. |
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23:58.27 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
23:58.41 | Gnarfoz | either it's a coincidence or my wow keeps crashing on party joins :< |
23:58.49 | kaiden | hyperChipmunk, hrmph, not seeing any mortar related items that could cause that launching |
23:59.08 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: what UF? |
23:59.19 | Gnarfoz | yours :) |
23:59.24 | ckknight | hrm... |
23:59.26 | ckknight | shouldn't do that. |
23:59.40 | Gnarfoz | it's actually my entire machine going down, not wow |
23:59.43 | ckknight | oh |
23:59.46 | ckknight | ouchies |