IRC log for #wowace on 20070623

00:00.17Kaeltenthe X-Category field is having some... inconsistent results.
00:00.24Kaeltener values
00:00.44abyssichateckknight: is there a way to colour the health tag (using DogTag) according to the range the current health percentage is into? Like, [100,80]->green, [80-60]->light green, [60-40]->yellow and so on?
00:00.47ckknightKaelten: k...
00:00.49Kaeltenand that bad data is effecting us both in game in places and in wau2
00:00.59ckknightabyssichate: HPColor, I believe
00:00.59vhaarrKaelten: Fix them all.
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00:01.03Cryectingame?
00:01.16KaeltenCryect: some addons read that field for things
00:01.22Kaeltenincluding Ace2
00:01.26CryectOh didn't know anything actually read it besides the wiki
00:01.34abyssichateckknight: thanks
00:01.45Kaeltenvhaarr: I've thought about it but that doesn't provide a long term fix
00:01.47CryectI understand WAU2 of course
00:01.52ckknightCryect: FuBar reads it too
00:01.57vhaarrKaelten: Pre-commit hook.
00:02.12Cryectjust catergorize unknowns as unknown?
00:02.14Kaeltenvhaarr: does a pre-commit hook see the contents of the files being committed though?
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00:02.22CryectPfft like I use Fubra :-p
00:02.25Ominous__ck/run SetRaidTarget("target", 8)
00:02.27Ominous__oops
00:02.34ckknight?
00:02.34vhaarrKaelten: I don't know
00:02.42Kaeltenme either :s
00:02.46Ominous__ckknight: if you said anythinh after i said bottom of tooltip then i didnt see it
00:03.18CIA-2203ckknight * r41335 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix casing of dogtags on set.
00:03.31ckknightbottom of tooltip?
00:03.36CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r41336 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Fixing erroneous code in GetTooltip().
00:03.48Ominousill ss it if i can persuade my group member to dc
00:04.12ckknightk.
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00:04.43ckknightOminous: I know the issue :-P
00:05.08Ominous=P
00:05.15abyssichateI didn't think that using dogtag would be that easy :E
00:05.16abyssichateit rocks
00:05.26ckknightOminous: I think...
00:05.31ckknightOminous: it says "Offline"?
00:05.34Ominousyea
00:05.44Kaeltenlooks like using svnlook it might be possible
00:05.53Adirelleraaaaaaaaaaah, ora2's doomed again
00:06.33CIA-2203ckknight * r41337 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - [Zone] should not return "Offline"
00:06.39ckknightOminous: there we go
00:06.50Ominousckknight: ah /cheer
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00:08.20Kaeltenhrm
00:10.14Adirellewtf... why do only oRA2 and Postal have trouble with AceModuleCore-2.0...
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00:10.35KaeltenMikk: ping?
00:10.44KaeltenAdirelle: ?
00:11.15AdirelleKaelten: I've got very strange behavior with Postal, oRA2 and AceModuleCore-2.0 (all from SVN)
00:11.23Kaelten?
00:11.27AdirelleKaelten: depending on the order of the mixins, it works, or not :/
00:11.34Kaeltenok....
00:11.36Kaelten?
00:11.50ckknightI still believe that you have some freaky old version somewhere
00:11.52ckknight*shrug*
00:11.53ckknightI dunno
00:12.10Kaeltenlol
00:12.16Adirellejust "finded" my interface to clear up remaning libs
00:12.20Adirelledidn't found any
00:12.35KaeltenAdirelle: I suggest running the app by itself to make sure its not any sort of conflict
00:13.22mjcheh
00:13.22Kaeltenother than that whats the magic combination
00:13.22Adirelle?
00:13.22mjcckknight: I think it's kind of funny how you end up writing replacements for stuff whenever someone moves something off the svn
00:13.29mjcckknight: and then it ends up raping the other person's code in the eye
00:13.40JoshBorkesuggestion for any mod using different textures:  give examples of the textures on the selector, for the love of god
00:13.40ckknighthow do you mean?
00:13.44ckknightrape?
00:13.49mjceg cowtip... my reaction was "why did I ever use tinytip?!"
00:13.56ckknightah
00:14.05durcynbecause tinytip actually doesn't suck
00:14.10Kaeltencowtip?
00:14.14Gngskoooooh, burn!
00:14.14ckknightCowTip is meant to be simple, powerful, and configurable
00:14.15mjccowtip sucks much, much less
00:14.16ckknightand nothing else.
00:14.27KaeltenI miss tipstert
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00:14.29ckknightI don't plan to bloat it ad nauseum
00:14.30Kaeltener tipster
00:14.49ckknightwell, waiting for AB
00:14.57ckknightguess I can work on hostility/status coloring.
00:15.01ag`mjc, what moved off the SVN?
00:15.17vhaarrTinyTip
00:15.18ckknightTinyTip, but it was moved back
00:15.23AdirelleAntiarc: your "isgroupofficer" fix is ok
00:15.29ckknightgranted, it's an out of date version and all
00:15.36vhaarrdevelopment stopped on the wowace SVN, though, and is continuing on gcode
00:15.48vhaarrI don't get it.
00:15.51ag`reasoning?
00:16.04vhaarr"I don't like $rand person, I'll move off the SVN"
00:16.20trh_does the character selection frame has a .lua file?
00:16.22ag`Come on, how can *addons* be so drama
00:16.22ckknight"I want to suck $rand's cock, I'll move off the SVN"
00:16.28ckknight:-P, vhaarr
00:16.31vhaarr:P
00:16.34winkillerlol ag`
00:16.34JoshBorkeseriously?  wtf is that all about?
00:16.51Kaeltenall people have to do is email me and I'll lock their project down
00:16.52JoshBorkewhy does it matter now when Thrae does it?
00:16.53ckknightI'm just joking around with vhaarr
00:17.04vhaarrJoshBorke: Why the fuck do you care?
00:17.39ag`I've always hated how people moved stuff away from the SVN because of drama. No matter who did it.
00:18.05JoshBorkebecause i don't understand why thrae is being singled out.  other people have taken their mods off the svn before.  some have been harassed some haven't.  it all depends on the popularity of the mod it seems.
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00:18.14vhaarrJoshBorke: I'm not singling out anyone.
00:18.42vhaarrThrae is a good coder, and I remember when he started making TT, he was very helpful when I reported bugs and suggested features.
00:18.51hyperChipmunkthe problem with thrae was he nuked the one without having a working version on the other
00:19.41Kaeltenkergoth: you around?
00:19.59ThraehyperChipmunk: I reverted that. I don't see what else I can do.
00:20.04ckknightI'd like to let people know that I didn't make CowTip to spite Thrae. I did it because I was growing tired of working on PitBull constantly and felt a new small project would be worthwhile. Someone suggested a tooltip mod, and I went for it.
00:20.06JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: he nuked a development copy while the released version was still available.  the copy he released on wowi is the same copy he deleted on the SVN, is it not?
00:20.20JoshBorkethrae:  you stay out of this :-P
00:20.26winkillerlol
00:20.42KaeltenMikk: you around?
00:20.51hyperChipmunkthe point was that you caused a hiccup
00:21.07winkillera disturbance in the force
00:21.10JoshBorkei don't understand how he caused a hiccup though, i hink it was entirely thrown out of proportion
00:21.12hyperChipmunkyes
00:21.38hyperChipmunkwith praid, i didn't even know it moved
00:21.39JoshBorkeeveryone screamed bloody murder without realizing that the version deleted was the same one available at wowi, _for the past 5 months_
00:21.41ThraehyperChipmunk: How is that different from anyone just breaking their own addon?
00:21.58vhaarrJoshBorke: WoWI is irrelevant.
00:21.58hyperChipmunkbecause that doesn't give svn errors
00:22.02vhaarrJoshBorke: There is only WAU.
00:22.11Kaelten~lart vhaarr
00:22.11purlfarts in vhaarr's general direction
00:22.15Kaeltenlol
00:22.17ckknightlol
00:22.21ckknightfart
00:22.22JoshBorkelol
00:22.41Kaeltenpurl is an interesting creature
00:22.44ThraehyperChipmunk: I deleted the directory only -after- I decided to re-upload the OLD version. It was deleted for about...oh, 30 minutes.
00:22.44Kaeltenanywho
00:22.45JoshBorkewtf, i'm getting an error with the current version of pitbull
00:22.55Kaelten~cheer JoshBorke
00:22.56purlACTION cheers JoshBorke on
00:23.01JoshBorkethrae:  i'm of the opinion that it could have just stayed off the SVN
00:23.02ckknightJoshBorke: what is it?
00:23.06winkillernow that I think of it, I replaced 90% of addons with ace ones. SPOF
00:23.09hyperChipmunkoh, plus that stub addon was pretty annoying
00:23.10Adirellegot something to review on ThreatLib, seems I'll have to wait Antiarc get home
00:23.11JoshBorkeckknight: logging back in to double check
00:23.15ckknightk
00:23.23JoshBorkethrae:  i'm of the opinion that it should have been deleted outright
00:23.24Kaelten~lart hyperChipmunk
00:23.24purlpushes the wall down onto hyperChipmunk whilst whistling innocently
00:23.29JoshBorkethrae:  no stub, nothing
00:23.56Kaeltenthrae: I'm of the opinion that people are crazy and you'll never figure them out
00:23.57JoshBorke~lart kaelten
00:23.57purlrm -rf's kaelten
00:24.00ckknightKaelten: I believe you're crazy, and I just can't figure you out.
00:24.19winkillerIn my opinion it's too late for serious talk
00:24.22Kaeltenckknight: yes I probably am, and if you ever do let me know
00:24.32JoshBorkeKaelten: can your wife?
00:24.34Kaeltenserious?
00:24.41ckknightAB time!
00:24.44KaeltenJoshBorke: explain me? no
00:24.59Kaeltenmy daughter can though
00:25.04Kaelten"He's my daddy"
00:25.33ckknightlol
00:25.34ckknightcute
00:25.44Kaeltenshe tries :s
00:25.57JoshBorkeckknight: when trying to put my target debuffs in a non shitty location: http://ace.pastey.net/62097
00:26.04JoshBorkelol
00:26.08JoshBorkeKaelten: figure you out i mean
00:26.14KaeltenKaelten: nope
00:26.24JoshBorketalking to yourself now i see
00:26.33Ominous=D
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00:27.09Flexomckknight: portrait gives errors too:)
00:27.12JoshBorkeis it too much to ask for my debuffs to start in the topright corner and go left and my buffs to start in the topleft corner and go right?  i mean geebus
00:27.22ckknightwhat error, Flexom?
00:28.19FlexomError: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
00:28.19FlexomFile: Interface\AddOns\PitBull\PitBull.lua
00:28.19FlexomLine: 1504
00:28.19FlexomCount: 1
00:28.26ckknightyou are one angry dude, JoshBorke
00:28.40AnduinLotharyes josh. that is too much to ask
00:28.44ckknightFlexom: do you have a debugstack?
00:29.04Flexomnope, can get it if you want:)
00:29.15AnduinLotharIt registers a 6 of my Super Picky User scale
00:29.18AnduinLotharon*
00:29.35JoshBorkeckknight: i know, i'm just hoping i can get this to work in the current version of pitbull WITHOUT having to modify any source code for once
00:29.40JoshBorkeckknight: i'm doubting it'll be the case
00:29.50AnduinLotharand an 8 on the Features No One Else Wants And You Should Code Yourself scale
00:30.03JoshBorkeAnduinLothar: shut up and heal :-P
00:30.10AnduinLotharno, i'm ret spec
00:30.14clad|afkyou would be
00:30.18ag`gkick
00:30.22JoshBorkegkick imo
00:30.26JoshBorkeyou should just delete in shame :-P
00:30.46AnduinLothari was actually holy for 2 years with only breif spurts into prot, but then they buffed ret
00:30.49Adirellethat's a conflit :(
00:30.59Adirellegotta activate each addon one at a time
00:31.09AnduinLotharplus my guild has a surplus of pallies, and i think only 2 of them are holy
00:31.17JoshBorke[Ammo]: <3 snap to center
00:31.21RogueShadowAnduinLothar is my hero!
00:31.24AnduinLotharbut us oldies are over geared for kz
00:31.41JoshBorkewait, i mean nymbia:  <3 snap to center
00:31.42AnduinLotharso i dps in kz and pick up mail and leather dps gear no one needs
00:31.53nymbiaJoshBorke: :)
00:31.56AnduinLotharand then duel the warriors for the arms gear
00:32.00ckknightJoshBorke: I'm going to be serious for a second. Your presence is bringing me down, i.e. "You're harshing my mellow, man"
00:32.03RogueShadowand my pally is ret also
00:32.13JoshBorkenymbia: idea for when buttons are not locked, put a friggin label on them :-D
00:32.29JoshBorkeckknight: sorry, i don't know how to be less of an ass
00:32.43RogueShadowI used to play the same game as alexanderyoshi before he played wow.
00:32.46AnduinLotharstep 1: remove stick from ass
00:32.55JoshBorkeAnduinLothar: will you help? ;-)
00:33.06AnduinLotharyes, i have the jaws of life around here somewhere
00:33.17JoshBorkei think it might need to be bigger
00:33.30AnduinLotharthe hole or your ass?
00:33.42JoshBorkethe jaws of life
00:34.35AdirelleI'm gonna get crazy... disabled all addons, enabled the all again, no more error :/
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00:37.40symianHi. I'm writing a really bare-bones FuBar add-on, to allow quick switching of languages.
00:37.45symianThis is my first go at a FuBar addon.
00:38.01symianI was wondering: could someone explain to me how Tablet works, in conjunction with FuBar?
00:38.18symianEvery FuBar addon I can find merely creates a tablet object, then adds categories to it.
00:38.22Ominoushas something changeed with dewdrop text, and passValue hadnline with a validation table
00:38.25JoshBorkeckknight: you said you were going to be serious?
00:38.26symianThey never actually seem to *attach* the tablet to something.
00:38.34JoshBorke~blame mikk
00:38.35purlACTION blames mikk (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:39.15AntiarcEvening all
00:39.51JoshBorkehola antiarc
00:40.02AntiarcHow's it going, JoshBorke?
00:40.03JoshBorkeMikkZzz: how convenient ;-P
00:40.17ckknightJoshBorke: stop trolling
00:40.19JoshBorkeAntiarc: not too shabby.  AnduinLothar keeps telling me to remove the stick from my ass but won't help
00:40.28Gngskanyone have a setup for trinketmenu profiles/autoqueue enable/disable based on in/out battlegrounds?
00:40.32JoshBorkeckknight: i thought you were gonna help with my pitbull error :_(
00:40.40ckknightI'm in AB
00:40.46ckknightand you were acting like an ass
00:40.54ckknightso guess where my prioritized ended up
00:40.58Antiarcckknight: Latest version of CowTip has a fully transparent background
00:41.21ckknightAntiarc: that's customizeable
00:41.28JoshBorkei don't really understand how i was being an ass except by expressing my opinion about the whole tinytip situation, outside of that i thought i was customizable, but whatever
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00:41.50ckknightno, I was just referring to your PitBull comments
00:42.32JoshBorkeckknight: that had nothing to do with pitbull, it was just in general
00:42.39JoshBorkei've never found an addon that could do that
00:42.46ag`do what
00:42.58JoshBorkeag`: well, maybe aguf did...
00:43.04ag`let me scroll up
00:43.12AdirelleAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/62090
00:43.12JoshBorkeag`: debuffs topright growing left, buffs topleft growing right
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00:43.35ag`topright of the unit frame?
00:43.40JoshBorkeag`: yes
00:44.01Chompersits probably a bad thing if our premade AB game lost to a random group right?
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00:44.11ag`JoshBorke, that's what they do
00:44.13Chomperswhat if we lost 4 times in a row :/
00:44.52JoshBorkeChompers: yes, bad
00:46.00CIA-2203cryect * r41338 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Can now remove/add the buttons on the main window title bar in config
00:46.45AdirelleI'm off
00:46.47Adirellenight
00:47.14Ominousok someone has broken passValue with type = text and validate = table in dewdrop as non of those work for me atm but whn i remove the table it works
00:47.30JoshBorke~blame MikkZzz
00:47.31purlACTION blames MikkZzz (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:48.31GarounAntiarc, any plans to provide a hook to SCT from Omen?
00:48.47Cryectwhy?
00:48.59Cryectsomeone could add threat to SCT instead
00:49.01sylvanaaranyone good with textures? i need some help with my pitbull plugin
00:49.02Garoung/f sitting behind me asked
00:49.03CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r70 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed "Rare Elite" bug. Also removed most of the excess formating code that was rarely used -- this'll come back in a separate module. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/)
00:49.03CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r71 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Drycode of new TinyTip logic -- now it'll clear and remake the tooltip. Also, the border is 50% brighter.
00:49.03CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r72 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed bug in line 237
00:49.05CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r73 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed level line bug.
00:49.07CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r74 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed ?? level bug. Fixed colouring for lines after the level line (they are now the default colour). Fixed problem when SetDefaultAnchor may be called by a stupid addon.
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00:49.11CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r75 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Forgot GameTooltip doesn't actually clear lines, it just hides them. Fixed.
00:49.14CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r76 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed bug
00:49.16CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r77 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Removed GetUnit() call in SetDefaultAnchor, as it doesn't seem to be usable. Also fixed extraneous space in level line. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/)
00:49.17Cryectdamn Thrae
00:49.20CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r78 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Internal revert to fix bug
00:49.24ckknightspamz
00:49.36CryectI guess thats all the commits thrae did earlier?
00:49.36ThraeNot my fault! Not my fault!
00:49.40Cryectsure!!!
00:49.47JoshBorkegeebus thrae
00:49.48JoshBorkewtf
00:49.51ThraeI can't control if CIA-22 is buggy =/
00:49.53CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r79 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: line / lines error fixed.
00:49.53CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r80 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua localization/TinyTipLocale.lua): TinyTip: When the creature type or creature class is unavailable, it will now add "Unknown" instead of just skipping it.
00:49.53CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r81 10/ (trunk/PerfectAssist branches/PerfectAssist): PerfectAssist: Saved for posterity, unstable
00:49.54CryectThrae has bene busy!
00:49.59Chompersafter CowTip, where next ckknight?
00:50.15CryectScrolling Combat Tags!
00:50.16ckknightChompers: well, I wanted to make a generic Damage/Healing/DPS library thing
00:50.17ChompersSCT style addon perhaps?
00:50.23Chompersaaah, cool
00:50.45ckknightthe general idea of things is to make a whole bunch of libraries so that making actual mods takes little to no time at all
00:50.49ckknighte.g. CowTip
00:50.52ckknightI slapped that together
00:50.55ckknightand it's workable
00:50.58CIA-2203roartindon * r41339 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua:
00:50.58CIA-22Assessment
00:50.58CIA-22- Added Broadcast KLHThreatMeter Data option
00:51.00CryectIn otherwords if you wanted you could create an addon in a macro
00:51.19Ominousmikk:ping
00:51.35Ominousah he sleeps
00:52.03CryectIf you really wanted to do that ckknight, you would make a good GUI creation library
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00:52.25ckknightCryect: Dewdrop/Tablet?
00:52.28Cryectthats where definately most my time now a days gets spent is always on the GUI, the backend is fast in comparison (then again I made a bunch of functions to make that stuff easy)
00:52.34ckknightCryect: I'm also not good at generic GUIs,
00:52.49ckknightsince everything is so different from each other
00:52.54CryectYeah
00:52.54Hotphoenixwould be nice to have unified guis for all these mods if not just in looks
00:53.01sylvanaaractually, i might look at cowtip it might have the code i need
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00:53.30AnduinLotharsomeone say gui?
00:53.43AnduinLotharin the ace channel?
00:53.48AnduinLotharzomg
00:53.52CryectI use dewdrop since thats defiantely easier for dropdowns and tablet doesn't really aid much in tooltips
00:53.56hyperChipmunkguis are for sissies
00:54.06CryectTooltips is easy stuff
00:54.12clad|afk~emulate saien
00:54.12purlSlash commands are ameturish.
00:54.18hyperChipmunklol
00:54.22JoshBorkeoh hey!  i got my buffs the way i want it!
00:54.25Cryecthaha :)
00:54.26AnduinLothardont use gui and.... optimized in the same sentance. the channel might axplode
00:54.38ckknightkersplode, AnduinLothar
00:54.53AnduinLothari used periodsss!
00:54.57Hotphoenixeven worse don't mention gui, optimised and microsoft together
00:55.07AnduinLotharjust dotn mention microsoft
00:55.10Chompers+ Kenco
00:55.26Cryectcan we have Kenco rewrite AceEvent
00:55.33Cryectneeds to poll for events
00:55.42Chompers+cosmos
00:55.51AnduinLotharlol
00:55.52CryectHeh cosmos my first addons back in beta :-p
00:56.08Antiarcckknight: I can't get a non-transparent background on CowTip :/
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00:56.41AnduinLotharso you want a gui library... but cosmos is evil... hmmm
00:56.50AnduinLothari sense conflict of intrest
00:57.06AntiarcHonestly, I'm not sure what you'd do with a GUI library, unless it's for something like a flow layout
00:57.15AntiarcSince we can already do most all of it programmatically
00:57.21AntiarcI mean, GUI widget libraries, sure
00:57.29AntiarcSortable data grid would be nice
00:58.00CryectBe nice if I could compress the 4 or 5 commands I call per widget into 1 command or so
00:58.03AnduinLotharSo you want to rewrite Cosmos's Earth in dynamic frames
00:58.13CryectI take shortcuts when I can where setting up very similar ones of course
00:58.52CryectIt just always feels like a lot of code for not much
00:59.02ckknightAntiarc: choose the solid background?
00:59.08AnduinLotharthat's twhat 'genaric' means
00:59.12JoshBorkeCryect: show texture examples for recount
00:59.26AntiarcI get Blizzard Low Health, Blizzard Out of Control, and Blizzard Tabard Background
00:59.27AntiarcThat's it
00:59.47ckknightAntiarc: oh, update SharedMediaLib
00:59.54CryectShow Texture Examples? you mean a tutorial screen? (I'm working on one of those btw have some images on my version for that)
01:00.06AntiarcAh, ok
01:00.06ckknightAnduinLothar: I don't want to make a gui lib.
01:00.30JoshBorkeCryect: no, when choosing the texture for the bars, make the selections examples of the textures
01:00.31AnduinLotharwas just combinign the other's suggestions
01:01.00CryectOh that yeah I really should have that in like I did for IMBA
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01:01.15AnduinLotharpeople complain they don't want to use Khaos cause it isn't embeddable, but a genaric embeddable gui library would be massive..
01:01.17ckknightMikkZzz: did you fuck up passValue?
01:01.19CryectAlmost added it then thought well you nromally have data you can see in the main window
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01:01.46JoshBorkeCryect: but then you have to select each one to see what it looks like then start the process over
01:01.47Ominousright, ckknight: in dewdrop if you have text field, with a passValue and a table for validate passValue isnt getting passed into get, also if you have hidden and passValue the passvalue dosent seem to be getting passed into ace console for hidden
01:02.11CryectJoshBorke: Oh do you want like 8 bars which you can scroll throw to select?
01:02.15Cryectthrough*
01:02.17JoshBorkeCryect: yes
01:02.23CryectYeah, that would be good
01:02.38JoshBorkeit's one of those things where you might be like, oh why didn't i think of that
01:02.48CryectWhen I redo the config options soon will have that on the Looks page
01:02.57sbu*vote for scrolling combat text addon thing next* :p
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01:03.07CryectI was thinking of something similar for something else
01:03.23ckknightnot nymbia! nymbia's a cheater!
01:04.02Arrowmasterthe X-* toc fields are all localized by the client if theres a X-* and X-*_deDE and the clients local is deDE right?
01:04.05clad|afkwhy do you need a scroll combat text "thing" next
01:04.09clad|afkwhats wrong wtih sct?
01:04.10ckknightright, Arrowmaster
01:04.22ckknighta few things
01:04.29ckknighti) author's never in IRC
01:04.37ckknightb) doesn't get updated often
01:04.46Chompersdidnt everyone say that about aguf?
01:04.50Cryect3) well thats not a major issue the first one :-p
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01:04.53ckknight3) doesn't have DoT-merging like MSBT
01:04.54clad|afkdidn't realize that you need to be in irc to make a good mod
01:05.01clad|afkb.) why does it need to be updated it it works?
01:05.06clad|afk3.) okay
01:05.20ckknightiv) we can't fix it, since it's locked
01:05.26clad|afki can't say i agree with the first two tho, not that it matters
01:05.29Chompersselective dot merging :D
01:05.52Arrowmasterso that should work with AddonLoader and the X-LoadOn-* stuff then, hmm i have the urge to rewrite Ogri'Lazy and make it only load when you actually open the gossip frame at an apexis relic
01:06.17CIA-2203ominous * r41340 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: foxed some menus but the validated text options dont work due to library problems
01:06.23ckknightclad|afk: (b)'s not a big issue with me
01:06.25ckknight(i) is
01:06.30clad|afkwhy?
01:06.33ckknightand yes, I used different numbering systems on purpose
01:06.40clad|afki was aware
01:06.40ckknightif he's not on IRC, we can't give him input
01:06.48clad|afkhe doesn't want it?
01:06.51clad|afkthat doesn't make his mod bad
01:06.58ckknightso then why should I use SCT, then?
01:07.00clad|afkyou can give him input on wowinterface like everyone else.
01:07.09ckknightI've tried to talk to him about things, on WoWI
01:07.16ckknightthey either never happen or he never responds.
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01:07.22clad|afkokay
01:07.23AnduinLotharignoring you
01:07.29clad|afkso your reasons for not using it are because it doesn't do what you want it to do
01:07.31NightHawkTheSanegah, clad|afk or ckknight one of you need to change your nick, they're the exact same length and it's confusing my sleep-addled mind! *cries* :P
01:07.32ckknighthe's talked to me, though
01:07.34clad|afknot using it because he's not in irc is stupid.
01:07.42clad|afknot using it because its not updated often is also stupid
01:07.43clad|afk*shrug*
01:07.58ckknightclad|afk: I said that (b) wasn't a big issue.
01:08.03JoshBorkeclad|afk: i'd say it's more stupid to not use because it's not updated, but that's just me
01:08.07clad|afki was just reiterating
01:08.21ckknightclad|afk: reiterating by putting words in my mouth
01:08.34Cryectclad|afk: but we need our daily(/hourly) update fix!
01:08.38clad|afk...
01:08.40clad|afki asked why you didn't use it
01:08.42clad|afkyou said b
01:08.44clad|afkif you didn't mean it, dont say it
01:08.44Cryecthehe :)
01:08.46clad|afki didn't put anything in your mouth
01:08.48NightHawkTheSaneJoshBorke: eh, how often it updates isnt the issue, if it becomes abandonware, then sure. but it's not
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01:09.06ckknightclad|afk: I said that (b) wasn't a big deal, yet you still brought it up as if it were
01:09.12clad|afklol
01:09.14clad|afkwhatever dude.l
01:09.15clad|afkhave fun
01:10.06Arrowmasterwell some stuff like the 'constant' IsFeignDeathed() spam for an entire PTR that would have been a simple backwards compatabile fix but didnt actually get fixed until the patch went live were kinda annoying
01:10.50ckknightArrowmaster: which would've likely been solved if we had the ability to fix it ourselves or if he were open and available on IRC
01:10.59Arrowmasteryup
01:11.25Arrowmasterwhens the last time FuBar broke?
01:11.26JoshBorkethough, in this case fubar is pretty much perfect
01:11.27ckknightJoshBorke: except that I'm here, any qualms you have can be addressed directly to me.
01:11.34JoshBorkeand sct could still use work :-)
01:11.46clad|afkfine, that's a reason
01:11.52clad|afknot the BS they spouted
01:11.52clad|afk*shrug*
01:11.57clad|afkthats why i asked.
01:12.13Cryecttrh was complaining there was actually a memory issue with fubar somewhere this morning
01:12.18ckknightclad|afk: stop trolling, please, I'm growing tired of it.
01:12.24clad|afkckknight: lolz.
01:12.33NightHawkTheSaneto be honest, you both are.
01:12.37JoshBorkeclad|afk: you obviously mean lulz
01:12.40clad|afkI asked a simple question
01:12.44clad|afkif you can't deal with that, then whatevs
01:13.03ckknightand you took it as an opportunity to troll, in my eyes
01:13.17clad|afk*yawn*
01:13.18clad|afkare you done?
01:14.42Antiarchttp://i15.tinypic.com/5z28xdv.jpg <3
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01:15.04Chompersooooh!
01:15.05ckknightooh, looks pretty nice
01:15.24ckknightso we all know, I do plan to have the ability to import/export settings, like in PitBull
01:15.26AnduinLotharAnyone got any idea why Omen's ace option table get functions don't like me and just return nil?
01:15.38AntiarcAnduinLothar: Which ones?
01:15.40Chompersckk, CowTip needs lots of presets for layouts
01:15.43AnduinLotharall of them
01:15.48AnduinLotharwhen called from a diff addon
01:15.48AntiarcNo idea at all.
01:15.51AntiarcOoh
01:15.52AntiarcUm
01:15.53ckknightChompers: that's the point of importing/exporting :-P
01:15.54AntiarcLet's see
01:15.59AntiarcYou're calling via Omen.options?
01:16.12AnduinLotharusing a registry loop
01:16.18sadrisDoes anyone know the name of the functions which are used to manipulate the floating chat windows? they have 3 characters in front of them.. FCW_ or FCH_ somethign
01:16.20JoshBorkeckknight: new bug in pitbull: http://ace.pastey.net/62184
01:16.20AnduinLotharso whatever table the registry has..
01:16.35ckknightJoshBorke: yea, Dewdrop bug Mikk introduced
01:17.21pb_ee1|sl33pQuick Question: Why isn't SCL using Parser-3.0?
01:17.25AntiarcAnduinLothar: It could do it if you're iterating that before Omen's DB loads
01:17.36AntiarcSince most all the gets return Omen.db.profile.X
01:17.39ckknightpb_ee1|sl33p: rophy made Parser-1.1 and SCL
01:17.40AntiarcAlso, afk for dinner
01:18.16pb_ee1|sl33pckknight: He did not updated it for Parser-3.0? Or are Parser-1.1 and Parser-3.0 completely different?
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01:18.37pb_ee1|sl33pI feel bad to know that two different libs are doing the same job at the same time when I'm playing... :/
01:18.46break19anyone in here familiar with itemprice the lib/
01:18.55CIA-2203ckknight * r41341 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - reverting to r41089, due to bugs with passValue
01:18.57Chomperspb_ee1|sl33p found another thing not to mention, Parser-1.0/Parser-3.0
01:19.07ArrowmasterAnduinLothar: did you get something like [2007/06/22 21:14:31-2030-x2]: Dewdrop-2.0: [nil] Missing "get" directive:<in C code>: in function `error'
01:19.10pb_ee1|sl33pargh
01:19.18AnduinLotharnah, no error
01:19.28break19I'm currently attempting to add itemprice-1.0 support to my local garbagefu.... its not showing in the list of vendor addons, and not quite sure what I'm missing..
01:19.32ckknightpb_ee1|sl33p: two different libs, two different APIs, Parser-3.0 has a compatibility layer to simulate Parser-1.1, so if you remove all Parser-1.1 lua files and use Parser-3.0 instead, it will still work without code changes.
01:19.56ckknightanyone who's been getting PitBull dewdrop bugs, update to 41341
01:19.58AnduinLotharAntiarc|Dinner:lemme verrify results
01:20.26pb_ee1|sl33pckknight: Thanks for the info, I'll try this ;) Going to sleep. NOW.
01:20.27Gnarfoz~x en de solace
01:21.23Chompersdamn you Antiarc, you've made me start work on a CowTip layout :P
01:21.36AnduneSo i'm in Gruuls lair.  and XRS shows 24 pple in a 25 man raid.  We have 1 shammy, and it's not counting him..
01:21.52AnduinLotharalliance?
01:21.54Kirkburn|afkckknight, I just tried looking up Cowtip on Google, second page result was an unrelated WoW-EU forum thread about someone called Cowtip >_< WoW gets /everywhere/
01:21.55Anduneaye.
01:22.05ckknightlol.
01:22.10Anduneis it really possible it's been broken since 2.0?  wow
01:22.58ckknightalright, I'm gonna go to Costco
01:24.21Chompersckk, can you add a feature to cowtip for me?
01:24.30ckknightadd it to the wish list
01:24.32AnduinLotharwhich driving to costco!
01:24.37AnduinLotharwhile*
01:24.56Chomperswhen i use the waterfall config menu, can you make the input boxes strech with the window?
01:25.10Chompersoh right ill add it there
01:25.20ckknightAnduinLothar: yea, I'm leaving now
01:25.35AnduinLothari was just saying you should code the feature on your way
01:25.59AnduinLotharso that the users dont have to wait for silly thinks like you getting toilet paper
01:26.25AnduinLothar(cause that's all i ever buy at costco. in very large quantities)
01:26.42JoshBorkemakes sense imo
01:26.48Kaeltenbbiab guys
01:26.50Kaeltenheading home
01:26.55JoshBorkebb kael
01:28.23AnduinLotharAntiarc|Dinner: my bad. thx for the help. i figured otu it was my bug
01:28.44AnduinLothari was forgot the return from my xpcall closure
01:28.54AnduinLotharho'd that was get in there...
01:28.57AnduinLotharhow*
01:29.23AnduinLotharHA! I win. Omen works with Ace2Khaos now
01:29.53CIA-2203daviesh * r41342 10AtlasLoot/Core/LootButtons.lua:
01:29.53CIA-22AtlasLoot:
01:29.53CIA-22- v3.01.01 finalised, a couple of tweaks to the Equipcompare code
01:30.28JoshBorke/golfclap AnduinLothar
01:31.50ArrowmasterAndune: check the XRS forum thread, i posted instructions for how to get the new classes to show
01:32.28AnduinLotharok... now i'm not really a fan of fubar for configurations... but if ever there's something that is a candidate for a drop down list format it's xloot.... it rly needs a fubar module for XLootMonitor and XLootGroup
01:33.38NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: pester Xuerian  :P
01:33.48XuerianAnduinLothar: whosawhatsit?
01:33.57CIA-2203Leialyn * r41343 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Najentus.lua BlackTemple/Supremus.lua Core.lua): BigWigs: Najentus/Supremus/Core: deDE update
01:34.00Wobin><
01:34.03AnduinLotharwow, what response time
01:34.10WobinI can't believe that setting up gtalk on pidgin is so complex=P
01:34.14NightHawkTheSaneI'm magic.
01:34.15XuerianI aim to have no lice.
01:34.16Xuerianer
01:34.17Xuerianwell
01:34.18Xuerianlife too
01:34.22AnduinLotharrofl
01:34.24NightHawkTheSanehah
01:34.30aen`can anyone help me with a dogtag?
01:34.32WobinBeing lice free is a noble aim!
01:34.40aen`im trying to make it so text only shows when mouse is over
01:34.57CIA-2203Leialyn * r41344 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: BlackTemple zone and first two bosses deDE update
01:35.08AnduinLotharSuggestion: write a fubar gui for XLootMonitor and XLootGroup so i dont have to see the lists on screen all the time
01:35.31AnduinLothardont hurt me. i just dled it today >.<
01:35.40Xuerianlol
01:35.42XuerianI don't mind
01:35.51XuerianXLoot_Options was on the schedule for 1.0
01:36.00AnduinLotharque?
01:36.08XuerianA nice usable gui for XLoot*
01:36.12AnduinLotharoic
01:36.47AnduinLotharobtw ;) Xloot is configurable in Khaos now :D
01:37.00XuerianAnduinLothar: Yeah, i saw that it was when I just loaded it =). Nice.
01:37.44KemayoWobin: It wasn't all that complicated when I did it.  Things change, I guess...
01:37.53ChompersAntiarc: did you incorporate any 'hiding' feature for mana in your cowtip layout ?
01:39.10WobinKemayo: nah, I mean, if you enter the details then hit "Register" it fails
01:39.16WobinBut if you hit "Save" it works fine =P
01:39.55Anduneok no idea if Grid coder is here, but I'll put in the request again:  Grid f'in ROCKS!  I would SO love it if I could track pets on it as well.
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01:40.17aen`can anyone help with a dogtag? im trying to make it so text only shows when mouse is over?
01:40.25AnduneI hate getting assigned pets in Raids, 'cuz, aw man, now I gotta monitor some other window to heal 'em..
01:40.33Roartindon~seen mikk
01:40.57purlmikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 47m 9s ago, saying: 'Flexom: The fix should be downloadable from files.wowace in ~10 minutes'.
01:40.57AnduinLotharXuerian: on the other hand there's a lot of fubar polution, so don't replace your whole pretty gui..
01:40.57RoartindonMikk broke Dewdrop in r41042 - it no longer passes passValue to get methods
01:41.03AnduinLotharcause it IS pretty and I <3 pretty gui
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01:41.27XuerianAnduinLothar: I'd rather not do a fubar plug, honestly. But that's just my opinion, I might make a small one if/when I get options up.
01:41.38AnduinLotharno, dont do it for options
01:41.49AnduinLotharfubar is NOT good at options
01:42.04AnduinLotharjust like a list of the most recent loots or whatever
01:42.06XuerianAhhh
01:42.10XuerianWell yeah that
01:42.20rubiki must have antiarc's secksee cowtip layout
01:42.33Xuerianwtf is cowtip anyway
01:42.42WobinDogTag'able tooltip addon
01:42.55aen`link me to anti's layout
01:43.11AnduinLotharok, so who's the ArkInv author he's next on the list to bug..
01:43.17hyperChipmunkit's not secksee if it isn't Moo-textured
01:43.22AnduinLotharthe background keeps overlappign the bag buttons
01:43.32NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: afaik he doesnt come in irc.
01:44.08AnduinLotharand i think his latest version has LESS sortable filters... >.<
01:44.33AnduinLotharlike weapons dissapeared and there's no way to sepperate item type
01:44.52NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: have you tried baggins? its nigh-monolithic to setup, but it can probably do whatever you want.
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01:45.48ag`I'm using baggins right now, but it seems to use more mem that ark, though I can't point any fingers as I am using embedded
01:45.51AnduinLothari have not. but i guess now that Ace2Khaos works i'm nto dependant on evil slash command configs
01:45.59rophyBaggins rock if it doesn't cost 2.5M disembedded.
01:46.08rophyit still rock with 2.5M actually.
01:46.19sbuark is at ~15M here :o
01:46.26NightHawkTheSanerophy: mine's significantly less than that. ~1MB memory usage
01:46.36AnduinLotharmeh, I have a super computer, optimized and efficient aren't as important to me as easy to use and featurefull
01:46.51NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: Baggins has it's own non-cli interface, it's not the best though :P
01:46.51rophyMemory really isn't a problem if it's CPU friendly.
01:47.02ag`NightHawkTheSane, rophy, I think it might be the PT3 libs
01:47.13ag`taking up a lot of mem
01:47.15rophyI have PT3 disembedded.
01:47.20NightHawkTheSaneag`: I run disembedded
01:47.23ag`okay
01:47.28ag`and it's still 2.5? :(
01:47.33rophyya, not sure why.
01:47.43ag`I've thought about looking into bags
01:47.54rophyI have 2 profiles though.
01:48.01rophyI guess normal people only have 1.
01:48.07rophyso like 1M  each profile?
01:48.09AnduinLothari was gonan do a bag mod, but then they added the secure templates and it scared me off
01:48.23ag`how can a profile be 1MB
01:48.26NightHawkTheSaneEh, I use char profiles all my characters.
01:48.28rophyi dunno.
01:48.54rophythe SV file doesn't look like costing 2.5M too.
01:49.00NightHawkTheSaneMight be related to the categories/rules you have set up
01:49.04ag`I have a hard time understanding how addons can use >2MB
01:49.27rophythat's why I'm saying, but Baggins still good with that.
01:49.34ag`yeah, I like it
01:49.41NightHawkTheSanebaggins is seriously the best bag addon i've seen since enginv :P
01:49.44rophyit's currently on top of my addon memory usage list, even higher than Ace2.
01:49.47Andune<3 baggins
01:49.50AnduinLotharobtw someone needs to rewrite the AceDB configs... it's so Not intuitive
01:49.51rophyagree
01:50.06hyperChipmunkconfigs?
01:50.07Andunetho you can drop the 'since'.  no qualifier needed.
01:50.12AnduinLotharthe profiles
01:50.30ag`I'm not sure I like how you have virtual bags though
01:50.47NightHawkTheSaneAndune: eh, you have to give EngInv credit, I think it was the first mod that did that style of sorting, wasn't it?
01:50.48rophyvirtual bags are good for us lazy guys who doesnt' want to spend 1 second on sorting the bags.
01:51.05rophyEngInventory was great if not the original author quitted.
01:51.16ag`I know I know I am lazy too, but I mean why not have one bag
01:51.20Andunenighthawkthesane:  not sure, my first intro was tbgas, a follow on to eng
01:51.26ag`I just don't see the use, I have all my bags open at once always
01:51.41AntiarcBah
01:51.42rophyI need to find the items quickly and accurately, I don't want to dig through the big bag.
01:51.46AntiarcPrat won't let me link  http://www.jonathancoulton.com/mp3/Mandelbrot%20Set.mp3
01:51.49NightHawkTheSaneag`: some people might not want every bag open at the same time
01:52.00rophyyou dunno the feel until you used EngInventory.
01:52.03AnduinLotharI prefer seeing everything at once sorted
01:52.10Andunebut yeah, tbags/eng got me addicted to the style.  Baggins just perfected it.  But it far surpasses the original TBag/Engi, IMHO
01:52.25AnduinLotharoi tbag is painful to use
01:52.33ag`can you even bind keys to open only one specific bag?
01:52.35AnduinLotharadvanced bags plus is pretty good
01:52.50rophyI guess most of the baggins user used EngInventory and were addicted to it, then cannot live without virtual bags
01:52.56AnduinLotharbut ark inv is easier to use
01:53.04NightHawkTheSaneag`: sadly, not that i'm aware of. It'd be a nice feature, though. You can individually open bags via the fubar plugin, though
01:53.13Anduneerg, yeah I can't imagine going back.  What a nightmare.
01:53.25NightHawkTheSaneis AdvancedBagsPlus still updated?
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01:53.33NightHawkTheSaneThat was good, but a real pain to get working right.
01:53.34AnduneI thought I had a good system before.  But once you realize how easy it can be, you're amazed you ever lived without it.
01:53.38ag`if you can't open specific bags with hotkeys, I am not sure I get why virtual bags are better than one big sorted bag
01:53.41aen`does ~ work as false in dogtags?
01:53.45rophynow if I don't load Baggins, it takes 1 minute for my to find any item.
01:53.51rophythat is nightmare.
01:53.52ag`I think I'll go merge all my bags into one in Baggins
01:54.01Anduneag`:  I hate bags.  period.  I have one window with sorted sub-sections.
01:54.11Chompersis it possible to add colour to [Faction] using dogtag?
01:54.21Chompersred/green or something
01:54.27ag`Andune, I hate bags too
01:54.33NightHawkTheSaneag`: because i only need a hotkey to open bags that contain things i need access to often. I have a bag set up strictly for gear sets, which i manage via itemrack, so I dont need direct access to that bag, and don't want it taking up my screen space when i'm looking at consumables :P
01:54.36aen`use RepColor
01:54.38aen`chompers
01:54.46Chompersaah, thankyou
01:54.48sylvanaarAntiarc yeah, i bet it wont
01:54.54rophyif you want to know why virtual bags are addicting, just go try EngInventory, it requires no configuration.
01:55.10WobinDon't look at the memory/cpu usage of it though
01:55.11rophypeople scare away from it because of the performance, the mod itself is great.
01:55.13Wobinand Don't be a hunter
01:55.27rophytry out EngInventory first, then beg for baggins once you're addicted to it.
01:55.53sylvanaari can run 3-4 wows on my machine - i dont care about addon performance
01:56.04ag`NightHawkTheSane, hmm yeah. Gear I've looted farming shows up in my gear bag, which is annoying and hinders me from using it the way you describe
01:56.07rophyI can barely open my browser then 1 wow running.
01:56.20CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r82 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc localization/TinyTipLocale.lua): TinyTip: Should be ready for TinyTipCoreModules. Also removed the code for SmoothBorder -- don't worry, it'll be back, just inside another module. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn)
01:56.21rophys/then/when/
01:56.41NightHawkTheSaneag`: i've set up categories/rules to avoid that from happening ;)
01:57.10rophythere is no 'gear bag' if you use virtual bags, no?
01:57.23ag`NightHawkTheSane, yeah I think you can make a rule that checks if something is BoE or shoulbound, but hmm. Isn't that very expensive tooltip scanning stuff? ugh
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01:57.27sylvanaarsure, there can be rophy
01:57.31NightHawkTheSanerophy: i have multiple "bag windows" in baggins :P
01:57.36sylvanaarthey are virtual after all
01:57.48rophyI have a virtual gear bag
01:57.52rophybut loots won't go into that.
01:57.54NightHawkTheSaneag`: i think baggins does caching to avoid re-evaluating stuff like that often.
01:57.57rophyby definition
01:58.15sylvanaarbaggins drove me nuts trying to configure
01:58.24rophyit took me a while to set up too.
01:58.24CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r83 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Whoops, core shouldn't be triggering messages inside a module
01:58.24NightHawkTheSanesylvanaar: yeah, the configuration is an absolute beast.
01:58.48NightHawkTheSaneyou'll spend all day getting it just right, but once you do, it's freaking gravy.
01:58.56rophybut I guess what it needs is just some more default profiles.
01:59.03sylvanaari wanted gear in one bag separated by slot, and each type took 2 different menu entries
01:59.07rophyso that most people dont need to confiure it.
01:59.16sylvanaaryeah
01:59.19sylvanaarpresets
01:59.21rophythat's why I did sylvanaar, I used 2 profiles for it though.
01:59.26rophys/why/what/
01:59.28ag`I do like baggins, but I'm kinda annoyed how I have 12 virtual bags on screen when I open my bank.
01:59.50sylvanaarright, empty bags which show too
01:59.57rophysomething cannot be done in 1 profile, since the 'item' options are global and not per bag.
02:00.09rophylike I want to hide duplicate items in each bag, but not sections.
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02:00.22rophyso that I can show equipment bag sorted by slot, and AIO bag sorted by categories.
02:00.32sylvanaarright
02:00.35sylvanaarexactly
02:00.37rophycurrently I use 2 profiles for that, but not so convinent.
02:00.44ckknightalright, back
02:00.48rophythe items option shold support per bag
02:01.39ag`ckknight should go into the bag business
02:01.52ckknight?
02:02.06ag`I bet all current bag addons bugger ckknight in some way
02:02.12ag`he should go fix it
02:02.15Wobin><
02:02.17sylvanaarthe filtering and sorting stuff looks like it may have been added over time which is why its so funky
02:02.28ckknightag`: nah, bags don't interest me
02:02.47rophythe filtering system seems good enough for me, just need some per-bag configurations other than the categories.
02:02.54ag`no, you hate them, and want to to go away through a sorted bag
02:02.57sylvanaarlike it started with just filtering for bags, then they added sorting too, and just reused the existing filters
02:03.03ag`*shrug*
02:03.40rophyfrom the SV, sorting seems is just the order of bags in the lua list.
02:03.49rophy{ {bag1}, {bag2}, {bag3} } etc
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02:04.01sylvanaarah sub bags
02:04.27ag`bedtime
02:04.35sylvanaarwhich makes sense why they use the same filters
02:05.17rophyI guess that's good enough for me.
02:05.34JoshBorkeCryect: HOLY SHIT
02:05.39JoshBorkeCryect: recount is fucking awesome
02:05.43NightHawkTheSanethe internals of baggins are probably in a fair state of disarray, as Nargiddley kind of disappeared :P
02:05.56sylvanaarim going to bed too - have fun guys
02:06.02rophygn
02:07.07Chompersi have no idea how to bind repcolor to faction, can anyone help me out?
02:07.54WobinNarg is still around, no?
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02:08.00WobinI've seen him every now and again
02:08.41NightHawkTheSanei think he comes in now and again
02:08.43AnduinLotharhow do i get baggin's sorting options to apply? i assume it's caching but after i add a bag section it doesn't change
02:08.48NightHawkTheSane~seen Nargiddley
02:08.50purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 35m 19s ago, saying: '*wide as high'.
02:09.08JoshBorkeAnduinLothar: user error imo
02:09.42rophyAnduinLothar: you set up categories first, then you set up the sections in the bags, then you select the categories in each section.
02:09.45rophydoing the correct thing?
02:09.47Ordogputhelp "WHO JoshBorke %nahru"
02:09.50AnduinLotharah, i have to use the apply on the categories window. there's no apply button on the bags window
02:10.20NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: ah, yeah,  i believe categories are cached, so you need to "Apply" when changing them, bags/sections aren't though
02:10.22Ordogsry JoshBorke your a random testtarget :)
02:11.44AnduinLotharhe should make the config a scrollable window with drag and drop entries like i did in bank manager and wardrobe
02:11.58AnduinLotharshift-clcik to go up and alt-click to go down is kludgy
02:12.12rophyhe use dewdrop for the configuration, which probably doesn't support drag and drop.
02:12.23NightHawkTheSaneyeah
02:12.37AnduinLotharthese always open windows dont look dewdrop
02:12.46NightHawkTheSaneProbably tablet, actually
02:12.54AnduinLotharfor categories and bags
02:13.05NightHawkTheSaneyeah, probably tablet
02:13.06rophyprobably tablet.
02:13.44rophyneither supports drag and drag though.
02:14.55mjcdrag and drag?
02:15.00mjctwo dressed-up guys?
02:15.09rophyBaggins cost 2.47MB memory before I even open the bags for the first time.
02:15.11Andunelol
02:15.15rophyI have no idea why...
02:15.31clad|afkPT?
02:15.35rophyI like to drag, I dun like to drop
02:15.40rophyPT disembedded.
02:15.41KemayoNo, PT3 is disembedded.
02:15.44clad|afkweird
02:16.14KemayoI forgot how much it bugs me that baggins doesn't replace your bags.
02:16.15WobinIt probably does it's processing before you open your bags
02:16.25WobinKemayo: change the hotkey
02:16.30rophyit has a lag spike when I first open the bags
02:16.37KemayoWobin: I shouldn't have to!
02:16.37rophywhich leads me to believe it load the bags on demand.
02:16.51Wobinwhat's the memory spike before and after?
02:16.55rophylemme see
02:17.19KemayoYeah, after going to the bank and everything it's only up to 2.51 MB.
02:17.21WobinI think Baggins does a stackcheck on bag open
02:17.32Wobinwhich is the cause for the lag
02:17.37rophy2.45 -> 2.47
02:17.55rophythe lag spike only occurs on first time I open bag.
02:18.09WobinI remember convincing narg to do the check on bagopen instead of all the time =)
02:18.16Chompers[Faction:Green] works, but [Faction:RepColor] does not, do i need to add something extra?
02:18.41rophyseems like he creates the buttons on initialize, and do some more intialization at the first bag open then
02:19.04Antiarcckknight: Is there a tag to color percentages on a gradient?
02:19.13Antiarcie, health, green 100% -> red 0%
02:19.25ckknightHPColor
02:19.49Chompers[Faction:HostileColor] works, hurah :D
02:23.36GnarfozI know Karazhan bosses are quite non-linear, but progress wise: does one kill Moroes before or after Aran?
02:23.40Gnarfozi.e. which is harder
02:24.00AntiarcAnd for mana?
02:24.01clad|afkmoroes before aran
02:24.05AntiarcMPColor and ManaColor don't work
02:24.13clad|afkaran is ass hard compared to moroes
02:24.18AnduinLotharhttp://68.4.1.88:82/~karl/blog/WoW/ScrollFrameDraggable3.avi
02:24.57AntiarcAran's the most execution-based fight in the zone, IMO
02:25.05AntiarcAha, PowerColor 
02:25.11clad|afkyep
02:25.24clad|afkalthough it still has quite a large random facotr
02:25.26clad|afkfactor
02:25.29kergothAnduinLothar, neat
02:25.36Wobin"Nine Nine Nine Nine Nine..."
02:26.20WobinAnduinLothar: hey that looks cool =) what's the green square off to the left?
02:26.46KarlThePaganwhat format is that file?
02:26.49KarlThePaganheh
02:26.51AnduinLotharyou're prolly looking at it in a viewer that doesn't support cropping
02:26.54hyperChipmunkthat's teh kind of thing i was saying cowtip needed
02:27.06KarlThePagandivx6 or wmv
02:27.26hyperChipmunkthe move up/down buttons
02:27.45AnduinLothardivx 6
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02:28.15AnduinLotharmy nice video editor ran out of demo time so i had to crop it
02:28.26AnduinLothari dunno what the green was, cursor glitch or something
02:28.47AnduinLotharthere's no green box int eh cropped veiw
02:29.07Wobincropped view is just of the menu itself?
02:29.30AnduinLotharya
02:29.47AnduinLotharwhat're you using the view it?
02:29.51hyperChipmunkheh
02:29.59hyperChipmunkmplayer shows all the way to the chatbox
02:30.15AnduinLotharyeah, try QuickTime
02:30.19AnduinLotharor vlc maybe
02:30.31hyperChipmunkyea, i'll just fire up QuickTime for Linux here
02:30.46AnduinLotharah yeah vlc doesn't crop either
02:30.49AnduinLotharw/e
02:30.51hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/sfd.png
02:31.04Gnarfozlimited software choice in the world of OSS? no wai!
02:31.05Gnarfoz:D
02:31.35AnduinLotharyeah, some moouse indicator in the free software i was using
02:31.54hyperChipmunk~console AnduinLothar
02:31.55purlACTION gives AnduinLothar the consolation moose
02:32.17AnduinLotharmmm coincidence?
02:32.30ckknight...no
02:32.32hyperChipmunka mÞÞuse bit my sister once
02:33.07hyperChipmunkmy purl-fu is strong
02:33.11hyperChipmunkmy form, impeccable
02:33.31AnduinLotharew... that tablet scroll bar is horrid
02:33.47NightHawkTheSaneI once had a mousse
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02:34.03clad|afki have the magic bullet
02:34.11clad|afkand it can make a 15 second chocolate mousse
02:34.13clad|afkdelicious
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02:36.14hyperChipmunkif by 'horrid' you mean 'functional and unobtrusive', i'm right there with ya
02:36.23AnduinLotharwow... getting baggins to make a bag with sorted sections for every equipment type is painful...
02:36.45rophyeveryone agreed it's painful to set up
02:37.01hyperChipmunkyea, but it's worth it
02:37.07Chompersckk, say i'm targeting an npc who has no mana, how would i hide my mana status tag?
02:37.07AnduinLotharand i can't get it to update...
02:37.12AnduinLothari even reloaded
02:37.24AnduinLotharand it's not showing bag sections i clearly added
02:37.26ckknightuse HasNoMana
02:37.44hyperChipmunkyou need more mojo clearly
02:39.04AnduinLotharok, well it's adding the categories, but they're empty. even tho i clearly see items of equip loc wrist in my bags..
02:39.20rophyit probably got added to another bag
02:39.40rophyif you have "Hide Duplicate Item" checked, and another bag/section matches the criteria, then it doesnt show in the 2nd bag/section.
02:39.51AnduinLotharhmmm
02:39.54rophythat's what currently bugs me.
02:40.01NightHawkTheSane(And, to be sure, bags/sections/categories are evaluated in the order they appear in the tablet)
02:40.05rophy"Hide Duplicate Item" should be per bag, not globa.
02:40.17AnduinLotharahh
02:40.22AnduinLotharyeah that was it
02:40.35NightHawkTheSaneso half of baggins is carefully crafting/ordering your sections/categories to get thigns to sort right ;)
02:40.48rophyhttp://ace.pastey.net/62318
02:40.58rophyhere's what I have set up for equipment and AIO bags.
02:41.05rophymay be you can copy & paste to save some time?
02:41.14AnduinLotharpossibly
02:41.15AnduinLotharthx
02:41.21rophyI use 2 profiles for equipment and AIO bag though
02:41.36rophyand Baggins doesn't refresh well on switching profiles.
02:42.03rophyafter switching profile, I manually do a /script AceLibrary("Sieve-0.1"):ForceFullUpdate()
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02:48.25KillmoreAntiarc: http://stage6.divx.com/user/eoy/video/1342303/Forte-Vs--Archimonde
02:48.31Killmorelook at the threat meter :P
02:48.44AnduinLotharthx that had the categories i needed, jsut need to make the bags
02:48.49nekohyea, also just saw that one :D
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02:49.53Antiarchttp://i9.tinypic.com/4y69f82.jpg <-- hotness
02:50.35abyssichateis that yours, Antiarc?
02:51.03AntiarcYes
02:51.15AntiarcCowTip screenshot, taken 2 minutes ago :D
02:51.42abyssichateI seriously need that font
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02:51.56abyssichateI'll put the level and race on the right of the name, good idea
02:52.34nekohgoing to bed, gn8
02:52.49Chompersckk: i think i did something wrong [FractionalMP:Short:PowerColor:~HasNoMP]
02:52.59ckknightyou did
02:53.14ckknight[~HasNoMP?FractionalMP:Short:PowerColor]
02:53.16Chompersi'm trying to make something very close to your Antiarc, but i want my mana hidden when the mob has none
02:53.31Chompersaaah! thank you ckknight
02:54.05Chompersfucking awesome, ty so much ckk
02:54.14ckknight:-)
02:54.45KinkxIs far along is Omen these days? :)
02:54.50abyssichateAntiarc: would you mind uploading the font somehwere?
02:54.51KinkxGuild still using KTM :<
02:54.53abyssichate*somewhere
02:55.11Lywellyn|Awayhey there ckknight.  Have a question:  For raid layout, is it possible to remove the (MM:SS) part of the status, but leaving the status intact for the health text?
02:55.23ckknight...no
02:55.26ckknightsorry
02:55.34Antiarcabyssichate: It's just one that comes with SharedMedia
02:55.52Lywellyn|AwayOh hey, Antiarc is voiced.
02:56.02ckknightyep
02:56.08Lywellynckknight: Maybe add the feature? :(
02:56.18ckknightI don't see the point
02:56.27Lywellynand not to leave anyone out:  Hey, Shirik is voiced too.
02:56.38Shirikhey I got revoiced :)
02:57.08ckknightthat's just cause Shirik's in the process of Ace'ing RDX
02:57.23Lywellyn*shrug* I only have small health bars for raids that show the person's name and their current HP (or their status if Dead/Ghost/whatever), but the (MM:SS) display pushes it over their name.  Oh well.
02:57.44abyssichateAntiarc: ok, thanks
02:57.58Shirikwould talk more but
02:58.04ShirikI'm kinda the guy that everyone's stepping on
02:58.07Shirikon prince
02:58.27Antiarcabyssichate: It's "Emblem"
02:59.01abyssichateThanks, I need to install SharedMedia
02:59.58ChompersAntiarc, what do you think?
02:59.59Chompershttp://i13.tinypic.com/6azhw14.jpg
03:00.30AntiarcSexy!
03:00.32AntiarcI like it!
03:00.51Chomperswhat's the name of the font you use?
03:01.02NightHawkTheSaneread up like six lines
03:01.14Chomperslulz
03:01.20abyssichateHow do you colour the Alliance in blue and I guess Horde in red?
03:01.26Chomperstoo busy uploading that picture :P
03:01.48Antiarcckknight: Your "Set Frame Anchor Offset" reads "unit anchor"
03:01.53AntiarcEmblem
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03:02.20Chompers[Faction:HostileColor]
03:02.25kergothAntiarc, you should make your cowtip savedvars available, thats sexy :)
03:02.58CIA-2203ckknight * r41345 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix the frame anchor offset name in the menu.
03:03.17Antiarcckknight just needs to implement serialization/export
03:03.26ckknightyea, I will eventually
03:03.45ckknightthink I'm gonna do background colors now...
03:04.15abyssichateNoo, server went offline
03:04.32Gnarfozyay, EU servers down now
03:04.34Gnarfoz:[
03:04.34Chompersimagine in a few weeks a whole forum thread filled with various layouts
03:04.37Gnarfoz3 hours to kill ^^
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03:05.02CIA-2203funkydude * r41346 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Hyjal: add Azgalor mod
03:05.30NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: read a book!
03:05.38abyssichateI was supposed to level but I spent half the time to set cowtip :p
03:05.45Gnarfoznah, I do that all the time
03:05.46abyssichate*my alt
03:05.53Gnarfozno movie ready to watch tho
03:05.55Gnarfozsucks :\
03:06.01AntiarcChompers: What's your MP line tag?
03:06.29AnduinLotharanyone know wsg mark item id?
03:06.33Chompers[~HasNoMP?FractionalMP:Short:PowerColor]
03:06.34AnduinLothari dont have one to check
03:06.45Chompersi'd tell you the rest but my server was shut down
03:07.03GnarfozAnduinLothar: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20558
03:07.07Chompersfollowed by a standard percentage
03:07.12AnduinLotharthx
03:08.01Chompersdo i have to do anything special for sharedmedia?
03:08.09abyssichateno, install it
03:08.16Chompersi've had them installed for awhile now and dont have that font you mentioned
03:08.18abyssichateand then you can select the font right away
03:08.28abyssichatemaybe it's new or so
03:08.40AntiarcChompers: MP tag plz >_>
03:08.46AntiarcOh
03:08.47AntiarcYou did
03:09.03Chompers:D
03:09.32AnduinLotharwhats the name of the terrokar pvp tokens?
03:09.34NightHawkTheSaneit's like an orgy of not paying attention in here isnt it ;)
03:09.45NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: Spirit Shard, iirc.
03:09.49AnduinLotharthx
03:10.36abyssichateAntiarc, what's your name tag?
03:10.45abyssichateis it classcoloured if they are pvp targets?
03:10.52LywellynChompers:  what was that image you posted up there?
03:11.33Chompersthat was my CowTip Layout
03:11.34Antiarc[PvPRank] [Name:HostileColor]
03:11.39Antiarc[Classification] [Level] [SmartRace] [SmartClass:ClassColor] on the right
03:12.05abyssichatethanks
03:12.20Chompersooooh, im stealing that :P
03:12.31abyssichateI think I'll keep the classcoloured nickname and delete the class informations
03:12.34LywellynOhh....hey, that's hot.   So you can modify the tooltip for when you're hovering over someone?
03:12.43abyssichateLywellyn: yes
03:12.43Chomperssure can
03:12.55LywellynHoly crap, I have to get in on tha.t
03:13.09Gnarfozckknight: not to bug you, but I saw it in the forum thread: do you think anchoring a side of the tooltip frame to the cursor (with offset) is possible at all? because that's the one annoying thing tinytip doesn't do quite right :\
03:13.17durcynhrm, PvPRank doesn't seem to be a valid tag
03:14.14ckknightGnarfoz: yea, possible
03:14.20ckknightGnarfoz: ...put it on the wish list
03:14.28GnarfozI'll do that =)
03:14.40Gnarfozalso: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSA0QOaMCVQ xD
03:14.40ChompersPvPRank + PvPRankNum
03:14.50Chompersboth valid on the dogtag wiki
03:15.42Kemayockknight: PitBull-r40446\PitBull.lua:166: attempt to index local 'parent' (a nil value)
03:15.54Kemayockknight: When I dragged a potion onto an action bar, strangely enough.
03:16.15ckknightout of date
03:16.29Antiarcckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/62393
03:16.32AntiarcWhen I mouse over a mob
03:16.37Antiarcnot when I mouse over a player
03:16.46AntiarcI suspect that's not useful, how can I be more useful?
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03:17.34ckknightnot sure.
03:18.49LywellynChompers:  That image, it's obviously when you're targeting yourself...which means you can[2007/06/22 11:25:02-27-x1]: <string>:"AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(G...":1: attempt to call global 'GetWorldStateInfo' (a nil value)
03:18.50LywellynAceConsole-2.0-39326 (Ace2):2632: in function `value'
03:18.50LywellynInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3406: in function `ChatEdit_ParseText':
03:18.50LywellynInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3098: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3097>:
03:18.50Lywellyn<in C code>: in function `ChatEdit_SendText'
03:18.52LywellynInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3119: in function `ChatEdit_OnEnterPressed':
03:18.54Lywellyn<string>:"*:OnEnterPressed":1: in function <[string "*:OnEnterPressed"]:1>
03:18.56Lywellynwhoa
03:18.58Lywellynsorry ><
03:18.59AntiarcAha
03:19.04AntiarcFaction:HostileColor was causing it
03:19.05Lywellyntotally didn't mean to do a copy/paste there o_O
03:19.23Lywellynbut when you hit shift/insert instead of shift/delete, that'll happen.... ><
03:19.40Lywellynanyways, I WAS saying up there:  which means you can't show experience for other people, right?
03:19.50Chompersit worked on people on ironforge, but i see what you mean
03:19.50AnduinLothari win http://68.4.1.88:82/~karl/blog/WoW/Baggins.jpg
03:20.01Chompersits getting MY faction, not theirs
03:20.13NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: lol, grats?
03:20.17aen`thats alot of subdividing
03:20.35AnduinLotharyeah took a while >.<
03:20.42aen`christ, a tabard section?
03:20.45Antiarc[Faction?Faction:HostileColor]
03:20.47AntiarcThat solves it.
03:21.06NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: yeah, i know. took me a while too :)
03:21.08ckknightAntiarc: [Faction:HostileColor]
03:21.24aen`to save some space id turn section titles off
03:21.33ckknightAntiarc: weird...
03:21.39Antiarcckknight: That gives me the error when mousing over a mob
03:22.58CIA-2203shamino * r41347 10EnchantingSell/ (3 files):
03:22.58CIA-22EnchantingSell:
03:22.58CIA-22- implemented feasibility based on counts in bags.
03:22.58CIA-22- implemented Enchant button. ES can now be used to enchant items
03:22.58CIA-22- new option to disable showing default craft frame.
03:23.04AntiarcHow do I insert a string if a condition matches?
03:23.43Antiarcie, I want to have [HasSoulstone?"Soulstoned"]
03:24.06ckknightAntiarc: [HasSoulstone] returns blank or "Soulstone"
03:24.19ckknightbut what you want is [HasSoulstone?Text(Soulstoned)]
03:24.23AntiarcAha, ok, thanks
03:24.49AnduinLotharmmm forgot a Reagents section
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03:25.00AntiarcDoesn't seem to be working. Hm.
03:25.06ckknightwhat's an easy way to tell if someone is in your guild or friend's list?
03:25.13AnduinLotharloop them
03:25.34ckknightsrsly?
03:25.35ckknightdang.
03:25.38AnduinLotharno other way afaik unelss you cache the list into a table every time it changes
03:25.58Chompersthere must be a tag to do that ckknight
03:26.16ckknightwait, for guild it's easy
03:26.27ckknightGetGuildInfo("target") == GetGuildInfo("player")
03:26.32AnduinLotharif you have their unitid ya
03:26.36AnduinLotharthought you meant name
03:26.38Antiarcckknight: [~HasSoulstone] is giving "true" on a priest that is soulstoned
03:27.12ckknightlame
03:27.20ckknighttry [HasAura(Soulstone)]
03:27.33ckknightAnduinLothar: I have the unit ID
03:29.28Chomperswhat if i wanted both friends/guildmenbers to be coloured something?
03:29.39Chompers[Name:IsFriend:HostilityColor]
03:29.41ckknightChompers: I'm adding it as a background color thing.
03:29.48Chompersah right, sweet
03:31.49JoshBorkenn all
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03:32.52Antiarcckknight: [HasAura(Soulstone Resurrection)?Text(Soulstoned)]
03:33.13Chompersnice, stealing that too
03:33.19ckknightAntiarc: ah.
03:33.27ckknightAntiarc: lemme fix it in DogTag
03:34.43CIA-2203funkydude * r41348 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: don't nil 2 locals on OnEnable(), using yells now
03:35.35aen`we need a moveanything mod that can be used with x/y coord positioning and frame relevancy
03:35.42CIA-2203ckknight * r41349 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix tag HasSoulstone to work with Soulstone Resurrection
03:37.01AnduinLotharframe relevancy?
03:37.07aen`like UIparent
03:37.33aen`like how discord worked
03:37.38AnduinLotharwell you can drag things with FluidFrames and set the xy in the sv i spose..
03:37.54aen`ehh ive tried it
03:38.21aen`nothing can touch discord the way it handled frame positioning
03:38.30aen`EEpanels works that way
03:38.39aen`i just wish there was a mod that could let u do it to any window
03:39.16AnduinLotharwouldn't be too hard to add to FF, but why would you want it?
03:39.45aen`lol, compulsiveness with centering frames and symmetry i suppose :P
03:39.59AnduinLothardragging aint good enough for you?
03:40.11aen`and makes it easier to scale down UI and movement
03:40.22aen`dragging gets sloppy tho
03:40.35NightHawkTheSanesome people like pixel precision
03:41.16AnduinLotharmust have bad eyes or poor hand motor functions... not that hard to get pixel percision dragging
03:41.25aen`exact positioning though
03:41.31aen`its a bit of OCD
03:41.59aen`and you cant directly center stuff by eye
03:42.08NightHawkTheSanemouse tracking and wow's dragging capabilities aren't typically the most precise things ever.
03:42.19CIA-2203ckknight * r41350 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add specialized background coloring.
03:42.24aen`agreed
03:42.26ckknightplztest
03:42.27ckknightkthx
03:42.36AnduinLothartoo lazy to throw a frame:setPoint into an addon?
03:42.39NightHawkTheSaneAnd beyond that, it's hard to eyeball what's "exactly center"
03:43.11Chompers[Faction:IsEqual([Faction#player])?Green!Red]   would that work?
03:43.19aen`i mean right now i have to pop out EEpanels, make a frame centered, then drag to that with the frame i want, then hide the ee panel
03:43.22aen`wayy too much work
03:43.37AnduinLotharlol
03:43.38NightHawkTheSaneAnduinLothar: too lazy to throw said functionality into a frame moving addon? :P
03:43.39ckknightChompers: I guess so
03:43.42AnduinLotharcause you do that every 5 min?
03:43.50ckknightChompers: [IsFriend?Greed!Red] would be easier.
03:43.55ckknightChompers: test my last commit
03:43.57ckknightAntiarc: you too
03:43.58AnduinLotharit's nto a function if it's abstracted, it's liek 200 lines of code
03:44.10AntiarcI'm testing right now
03:44.11Chompersi will as soon as the eu servers are up :P
03:44.18ckknightso AnduinLothar, i herd u liek mudkipz
03:44.32break19anyone here familiar with itemprice-1.0?
03:44.47AnduinLotharso, ckknight,  i heard you were an ass
03:45.05ckknightyou don't catch humor, do you?
03:45.23AnduinLotharyour humor is insulting
03:45.32ckknightit's not meant to be
03:45.36ckknightit's a popular meme
03:46.20Antiarc[2007/06/22 20:45:57-8000-x10]: CowTip-r41350\CowTip.lua:168: attempt to concatenate global 'num' (a nil value)
03:46.21NightHawkTheSaneI like insulting humor. But I'm kind of a jerk.
03:46.50Chompersneeds moar mudkipz
03:46.53ChompersMOAR
03:47.01break19I know there's something wrong with this line I've added to garbagefu's vendor addon list.. but I cant figure out what..
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03:47.04break19["itemprice"] = {name="ItemPrice", func="GetItemPriceLibPrice", check="ItemPrice" },
03:47.14ckknightAntiarc: lame
03:47.22Antiarcckknight: s/num/i/
03:47.33ckknightAntiarc: yea
03:47.34break19there's no error message, it's just not seeing that I have ItemPrice-1.0 installed and therefore doesnt show it in the addon list.
03:47.35CIA-2203ckknight * r41351 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - bugfix
03:47.36ckknightfigured that out
03:47.42ckknighttry now
03:47.42AntiarcAlready comes pre-tested!
03:47.42break19wrt garbageFU that is
03:47.44AntiarcHehe
03:47.47AntiarcI fixed it locally
03:47.53AntiarcWe're in between Illhoof attempts
03:47.57AntiarcWhich, incidentally
03:48.02AntiarcLets me test global threat clears
03:48.03Antiarc:V
03:49.25Cryecthehe
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03:50.58CIA-2203ckknight * r41352 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - cache globals, bugfix
03:51.13LywellynAre you done yet, ckknight?  I want to download that. :p
03:51.30break19is there no one that can help me tonight with tryin to add ItemPrice-1.0 support to my local GarbageFu supported vendor-price addon list?
03:52.02aen`so is closet gnome > wardrobe 2?
03:52.48Chompersi'm looking in the cowtip SV file, i dont see line 1 left at all
03:53.04Chompersbut i see line 1 right fine
03:54.26Chompersnil, -- [1]    i'm sure i had a few tags in there
03:55.16aen`which uses less memory?
03:55.42Funkeh`wtf is wardrob2
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03:56.48break19Funkeh`: keeps up to two Robs away from ya
03:56.58Lywellynckknight:  the Frame anchor setting is for normal tooltips, right?
03:57.14Funkeh`break19: have a kitkat
03:57.48break19Funkeh`: its too late for chocolate, but not too late to try to learn some more lua, if I could get someone to help me figure what I'm doin wrong.. :)
03:59.18Antiarcckknight: Backgrounds seem to work
04:01.19break19Funkeh`: if I add "local ItemPrice = AceLibrary("ItemPrice-1.0")" to a lua file, and the library doesnt exist, what happens?
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04:01.48Funkeh`mars colides into earth
04:01.50AntiarcTry local ItemPrice = AceLibrary:HasInstance("ItemPrice-1.0") and AceLibrary("ItemPrice-1.0")
04:02.17break19Antiarc: ok.. tnx
04:03.21Funkeh`anyone here done leotheras recently with bigwigs?
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04:05.27durcynyeah, Funkeh`
04:05.52Funkeh`when you engaged and the enrage bar pops, did you also get a whirlwind bar?
04:06.04Chompers[Level:IsLess(Level#player):DifficultyColor]  yes/no?
04:06.31Chompersthat should show the level if its lower than the players, then color it
04:07.11Antiarc)?D
04:07.12AntiarcI think
04:07.34Chompersbut what about bosses
04:07.51durcynhmm, i don't recall seeing a ww bar at any human phase start
04:08.39Funkeh`eh
04:09.17durcyni'll verify on sunday
04:09.31abyssichateChompers: does that work?
04:09.31CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r84 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed critical error. Additionally, initialization should not happen for every single addon you have installed anymore (whoops). http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/
04:09.48Chompersi cant test it abyssichate, servers are down
04:09.58abyssichateOh, same here :/
04:10.03abyssichateIt'd be nice if it worked though
04:10.12abyssichatehow much are they going to be down for?
04:10.21Chompersif it doesnt show bosses, just do: [Level:IsMore(Level#player):DifficultyColor] after the previous one
04:10.25Chompersi guess
04:10.25abyssichatethree hours I heard, is that correct?
04:10.31Chompersaye
04:10.43break19bah, screw it, I cant figure this gobbledy gook out. lol
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04:13.51Chompersckknight, you said you had changed the way coloring worked, how does that affect friends/guild/enemy coloring now?
04:15.29Chomperse.g would having [Isfriend?Purple] before [hostilitycolor] work?
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04:24.30Chompers5:30am, time for bed
04:29.16ckknightback
04:29.49abyssichateoh well, 6:30 here, good night
04:29.49ckknightLywellyn: frame anchoring is for all tooltips, both units and frames, though the settings can be different
04:29.58ckknightLywellyn: and so you know, none of my addons are ever done
04:30.04ckknightLywellyn: but CowTip is usable now
04:32.23ckknightugh, people keep telling me to make their mod ideas
04:32.50ckknightthis one guy wants me to make an actionbar mod
04:33.00ckknightthing is, actionbars don't "work" for me
04:33.13ckknightI only need very minimal spells on my action bar
04:33.18ckknighteverything else is click-casting
04:33.36Funkeh`theres no real need for an action abr mod
04:33.43ckknightright
04:33.49NightHawkTheSanetheres plenty of good ones out there
04:33.54ckknightright
04:34.04ckknightI'm satisfied with Bartender, as well
04:34.43Funkeh`if you are looking for another mod idea you can try a cooldown count or something
04:34.55ckknightor an RP mod :-P
04:35.07Funkeh`since theres no real active cooldown mod on wowace
04:35.19Funkeh`and bar cooldown mods suck
04:35.19ckknightI use CooldownTimers2
04:35.36ckknightthough really, my next project will likely be the DPS library
04:35.43NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: you mean something like omnicc?
04:35.53Funkeh`NightHawkTheSane: maybe
04:36.16zacckknight: or a mod for mac users for iTunes? :D
04:36.23ckknightlol, no
04:36.43ckknightzac: the API's too weak to do anything with
04:37.13NightHawkTheSaneyou've got more or less everything you need in the keybinds anyway
04:37.22ckknightright
04:37.26NightHawkTheSanebesides, maximized windowed mode + synergy is better anyway ;)
04:37.34ckknightsynergy?
04:37.56NightHawkTheSanehttp://wincent.com/a/products/synergy-classic/
04:37.59ckknightso here's my current mod to-do list: DPS lib, RP mod, SCT clone
04:38.03zacmeh, growl + growltunes is a good combo.
04:38.05ckknightthat's about it, though
04:38.12zacsynergy is pretty nice though. but growl beta is soooo nice.
04:38.24NightHawkTheSaneSynergy plugs in to growl :p
04:38.31zacdoes it? i think it used to be its own.
04:38.36NightHawkTheSaneit does
04:38.41ckknightctrl-option-cmd then an arrow key handles iTunes for me
04:38.45durcynckknight: pie menus, in my opinion.
04:38.52ckknightor ctrl-option-cmd-space to pause
04:38.59ckknightdurcyn: except I don't see the point :-P
04:39.01zacyeah, i have quicksilver set to do global binds
04:39.12NightHawkTheSaneI don't like quicksilver's itunes controller
04:39.22durcynthe point is hideable bars that don't clutter the screen when they aren't being used =P
04:39.54ckknightit would be an interesting intellectual challenge.
04:40.08ckknightsee, I don't make mods just to make mods, I make mods to be challenged
04:40.20CIA-2203funkydude * r41353 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: tweaks
04:40.26hyperChipmunkckknight: have you played NWN?
04:40.28ckknighte.g. to trump someone else, or to make something that hasn't been made, basically
04:40.33ckknighthyperChipmunk: yea, but not extensively
04:40.35durcynSprocket did it well pre-2.0, i just don't think there's a good way to fix it up for 2.x
04:41.00zaci definitely appreciate your work in making some pretty kickass addons.
04:41.20hyperChipmunkyou know, i think i might give a go at pie menus
04:41.36NightHawkTheSanewtb sprocket.
04:41.42durcynor, how about this.  the Geist author insulted your parents.
04:41.56ZealotOnAStickckknight: get with wobin and haste and make Splut what it should be.
04:42.00hyperChipmunkoh, yea
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04:42.16hyperChipmunkpost-2.0 pretty much makes pie menus impossible
04:42.38durcyneven a single level would be sufficient, sans nesting
04:42.41NightHawkTheSanenot impossible, i dont think, just.. less robust
04:42.54WobinHaste didn't work on splut with me
04:42.55ZealotOnAStickThere's secure pie frames in 2.0
04:43.00ZealotOnAStickoh, who was it?
04:43.29WobinSole
04:43.30hyperChipmunkpie menus basically means action buttons appearing and disappearing in combat
04:43.36ZealotOnAStickAh right.
04:44.02ZealotOnAStickI'd honestly be thrilled with a radial menu that only worked OOC.
04:44.11hyperChipmunkand they're not really useful unless they respond to mouse movements (as opposed to clicks)
04:44.14ZealotOnASticka lot of what I personally used Sprocket for was OOC stuff.
04:44.30NightHawkTheSaneyeah
04:45.32hyperChipmunkand ideally, they'd be dynamic depending on what the mouse is over when they're invoked
04:45.40durcynhrm, is it possible to have a mouseover cast out of combat, but a click cast in combat depending on lockdown?
04:45.47durcynon the same frame / button, i mean
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04:45.57ZealotOnAStickSprocket allowed me to move a lot of "sometimes used, but when I do need it, I need it QUICK" stuff off of my bars and slim down my interface tremendously.
04:46.06hyperChipmunkbasically, it requires a bunch of stuff that can't be done in 2.0
04:46.17ZealotOnASticknow in BC, I've got 60 freaking buttons on screen + pet bar.
04:46.24PeoiiI completely miss Sprocket
04:46.36Peoiithat's the one addon pre-xpac that I would kill to have back :/
04:46.51CIA-2203cryect * r41354 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Massive improvements to the drawing performance for filled graphs
04:47.29hyperChipmunkyea, might be handy for tradeskills, equipment management, etc. stuff
04:47.33hyperChipmunki'll fiddle with it some
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04:50.00CIA-2203fenlis * r41355 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Azgalor.lua:
04:50.00CIA-22BigWigs:
04:50.00CIA-22<PROTECTED>
04:55.41ckknightI might do a circular thingy.
04:55.44ckknightcould be interesting.
04:55.54CryectCircular thingy? HUD?
04:56.10ckknightcircular menu deal
04:56.13ckknighty
04:56.17Cryectoh one of those
04:56.31xysticKinda like an iPod... in WoW...
04:56.40ckknightwould need to come up with a name, though
04:56.48xysticiMenu
04:56.51ckknightwhat's funny and potentially related to animals?
04:56.54ckknightgood god, no
04:57.04xysticwhy animals?
04:57.12Cryectbecause thats his trend
04:57.16xysticah
04:57.21hyperChipmunksee, all I had to do was to start working on an interesting addon, and ckk jumps in to outdo me already >8P
04:57.34hyperChipmunkwe have learned the seekrit
04:57.39hyperChipmunkwe can make him do anything we want now!
04:57.48Funkeh`Armadillo?
04:57.50ckknightyea, I figure if I keep the animal thing, it'd be easier for everyone
04:57.55ckknightFunkeh`: I don't get it.
04:57.58hyperChipmunkstarfish
04:58.02ckknightooh.
04:58.05ckknightStarfish...
04:58.09CryectBlowfish
04:58.11Funkeh`its circular...
04:58.14hyperChipmunkor Octopus
04:58.19ckknightoh, Octopus is good
04:58.21xysticAn armadillo isn't circular... :/
04:58.22durcyncall it.. Pie.
04:58.33ckknightmaybe Hippo
04:58.36ckknighthippos are round
04:58.39CryectSpiderWeb
04:58.50xysticSnails... if your menu was more spiral than circle.
04:58.53Funkeh`it can roll into a circular form
04:58.57CryectDungBeetle
04:59.04ckknightno thanks, Cryect
04:59.11ckknightwant to stay away from the poop
04:59.16Cryect:-p
04:59.16xysticiSnail
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04:59.19Funkeh`how about, Balls
04:59.22ckknightno iStuff
04:59.27ckknightBalls?
04:59.28hyperChipmunki think Octopus would be too appropriate to the actual addon for ckk to use it as a name
04:59.34CryectBulls have mighty big balls
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04:59.46xystic'coil'
04:59.48durcynhmm. HamsterBall
04:59.53ckknightCryect: already have an addon that has "Bull" in it
05:00.02CryectTrue
05:00.03Funkeh`tbh Pulse sounds good for a circular menu
05:00.12ckknightHamsterBall, eh?
05:00.31[Liquidor]What are we naming?
05:00.32ckknightdunno
05:00.37ckknight[Liquidor]: circular menu thingy
05:00.39Funkeh`ckknight's mom
05:00.56hyperChipmunka radial menu ckk just totally gypped from me
05:01.01AntiarcAnyone know if the Prince has any special threat mechanics?
05:01.07ckknightI didn't gyp it from you
05:01.11ckknightyou suggested it
05:01.11CryectAntiarc: none
05:01.14AntiarcI just saw my tank get enfeebed with me #2 on both threat meters at 83% of her aggro.
05:01.15Funkeh`Antiarc: not really
05:01.20AntiarcWhich means I was actually above her threat.
05:01.29AntiarcSo I'm wondering if shadow nova is a -slight- aggro reduction
05:01.43hyperChipmunkyou have to let me contribute; I was just getting excited about it >*P
05:01.52Funkeh`no offense but your tnak is probably shit
05:02.04AntiarcNo, she's really very good.
05:02.05Funkeh`i usually go all out and don't look at meters on that encounter
05:02.08ZealotOnAStickckknight: Spiderweb
05:02.20AntiarcI was going all out, but I've been watching the meters as I have a vested interest in watching them :P
05:02.31Funkeh`^^
05:02.33ckknightZealotOnAStick: also good, but I dunno
05:02.35AntiarcI was pulling a little over 800 DPS, and was sitting very comfortably at 83% of her total
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05:02.55ZealotOnAStickSponge
05:03.01ckknightSponge?
05:03.02Funkeh`dunno never had an issue with a tnak geting enfeeble
05:03.02AntiarcAnd then she got enfeebled, which means I was actually in the (100, 110) range
05:03.11Funkeh`TANK
05:03.13Funkeh`arg
05:03.13AntiarcThe tank gets enfeebled if someone is above them in threat, but doesn't have aggro.
05:03.15ZealotOnAStickThey're classified as animals (aquatic sponges)
05:03.27ckknightyea, but Sponges are lame
05:03.36zacwAntiarc: what % was prince at?
05:03.40hyperChipmunki like starfish/octopus best
05:03.47Antiarczacw: Had just entered phase 2. 58% or so.
05:03.55xysticTumbleweed... it's no animal, but it sure seems animated.
05:03.57ckknightso I like: Starfish and Octopus thus far
05:04.04zacwyeah, I've seen my tank get emfeebled at the 60% start for no apparent reason. might not be threat.
05:04.10ZealotOnAStickI like Spiderweb.  But I'm biased.
05:04.19ckknightZealotOnAStick: also someone said it before you
05:04.22AntiarcIt was the second enfeeble of phase 2, zacw
05:04.24ZealotOnAStickKraken.
05:04.25hyperChipmunki like my ideas because they're better
05:04.32zacwah, indeed strange then.
05:04.33AntiarcI think.
05:04.34ZealotOnAStickOh.  Paying half-attention, in raid.
05:04.51hyperChipmunkradially-designed animals for radially designed menus
05:04.52durcynRustyStarfish then,  winner.
05:05.01ZealotOnAStickKraken!
05:05.08durcyn(nevermind the vague sophomoric sphincter reference)
05:05.14ZealotOnAStickThen we can tell people "oh, you need to get Kraken!"
05:05.18NightHawkTheSaneWhat in gods name are you people.. uh.. naming..
05:05.33hyperChipmunkOctopus.  Radial menu of awesomeness.  It'll sucker your face.
05:05.50durcyns/face/sister/g
05:06.33CIA-2203ckknight * r41356 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add a background color for dead units.
05:07.00ckknighthyperChipmunk: I'm not sure between Starfish and Octopus
05:07.11NightHawkTheSaneStarfish, imo
05:07.14hyperChipmunkeither can sucker one's face equally well
05:07.27NightHawkTheSanehmm. FaceHugger?
05:07.28Wobinhow much is nonflying epic mount?
05:07.29ckknightChocolate Starfish
05:07.32hyperChipmunk800
05:07.36WobinNightHawkTheSane: That's a little obscure
05:07.38NightHawkTheSaneWobin: 600 before discounts i believe
05:07.48Wobinckknight: unfortunately, yes =P
05:07.52NightHawkTheSaneWobin: so? :P
05:08.03ckknightI don't get it, NightHawkTheSane
05:08.15WobinNightHawkTheSane: You want it to be funny to everyone not just the ones who were here for the conversation =P
05:08.33WobinGo for Starfish
05:08.37ZealotOnAStickBlowfish
05:08.39WobinOr hell, just use Splut =P
05:08.41NightHawkTheSaneckknight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenomorph_%28Alien%29#Facehugger
05:08.57ckknightnah, Splut sounds lame and like that sound when you hit something gooey against glass.
05:09.11NightHawkTheSaneWobin: I
05:09.13hyperChipmunki like starfish
05:09.16hyperChipmunkit sounds less messy
05:09.18NightHawkTheSaneWobin: I'd laugh, and that's what matters to me :)
05:09.27Wobinckknight: that's the point =P
05:09.30hyperChipmunkoctopus is all tangly and messy
05:09.35Wobinit's like throwing sillyputty on a window
05:09.38hyperChipmunkand they squirt ink in your face
05:09.44Wobinyou get menus out from the impact point
05:09.52ckknighthyperChipmunk: okay, lemme finish CowTip, first
05:10.02ckknightshould be an hour or so...
05:10.08hyperChipmunki'm gonna keep writing what I got
05:10.14ZealotOnAStickBlowfish
05:10.20ckknightno, ZealotOnAStick
05:10.29ckknightI just really want to make the config stuff easier
05:10.47NightHawkTheSanenah, blowfish is an encryption algorithm, no need to reuse it
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05:10.58hyperChipmunkblowfish taken already anyway
05:10.59hyperChipmunkyea
05:11.19NightHawkTheSaneAt least, if I saw an addon named Blowfish, I'd assume it was encryption related
05:11.26hyperChipmunkexactly
05:11.45CIA-2203next96 * r41357 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-koKR.lua:
05:11.45CIA-22FuBar_PerformanceFu:
05:11.45CIA-22- Update locale koKR
05:12.00ckknightyea, I was thinking OpenBSD's mascot
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05:13.33hyperChipmunkhm
05:13.42hyperChipmunkturns out i totally suck at coding
05:13.45hyperChipmunki forgot about that part
05:14.08hyperChipmunkI can't even figure out how to make a frame /cry
05:14.15NightHawkTheSaneif it wasn't probably totally copywrited, i'd say cowtip should have this icon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dogcow.png
05:14.33ZealotOnAStickcreating a frame now is easy with the lua stuff.
05:14.40ZealotOnAStickway easier IMO than the damn XML
05:14.48hyperChipmunkmoof!
05:14.55NightHawkTheSanemoof, indeed!
05:14.59hyperChipmunkZealotOnAStick: thanks for the encouragemen
05:15.26ZealotOnAStickI mean, hell, I suck at coding because I dislike it, and I figured out basics on it for earlier revisions of Voyeur.
05:15.43hyperChipmunkthanks
05:15.48ZealotOnAStickBefore that guy basically decided to rewrite my mod for me and put in a bunch of stuff that all broke in 2.1.
05:16.14hyperChipmunkjust keep laying on the insults, jerk
05:16.23ZealotOnASticknot insulting.  Sheesh.  Enhance your calm.
05:16.27hyperChipmunk=)
05:16.30durcynvoyeur's broken again in 2.1.  noob =(
05:16.32ZealotOnAStickWe just wiped to a really fucking crappy abyssal.
05:16.34ZealotOnAStickI know.
05:17.37ZealotOnAStickbah, I'd have to go look at an earlier revision.
05:17.51hyperChipmunkI'm actually thinking that the whole 'sucker' concept could be nice...being able to temporarily sticky a submenu arbitrarily would be handy
05:17.52ZealotOnAStickWas going to find what it was and tell you, but it's something relatively obvious like CreateFrame()
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05:18.25hyperChipmunkand it even fits the metaphor
05:18.28[Liquidor]ckknight: sup with a circular menu? with icons or text?
05:18.28ZealotOnAStickprobably way, way better examples in others' code to look at.
05:18.48ckknight[Liquidor]: my guess is that it'd be icon-based, though I'd assume text'd go with it
05:18.57hyperChipmunkwe need a disgusting *schlop* sound to go with that
05:19.22[Liquidor]ckknight: and what would this menu have control over? :)
05:19.36[Liquidor]or is a modular-thingy like fubar?
05:20.09ckknight[Liquidor]: spells, etc.
05:20.20ckknightthough I'd be guessing I'd do it modularly
05:20.28[Liquidor]arh okay, like the warlock thing (now converted to all classes tho)=
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05:20.45[Liquidor]Cryo-something
05:20.47ckknight...no, not really
05:20.47hyperChipmunki'm thinknig your basic setup would have branches each for tradeskills, item-equip, food/drink/consumables, and buffs/ooc spells at least
05:21.03ckknightanybody ever play Sacrifice?
05:21.07hyperChipmunkyes
05:21.11hyperChipmunkthat game friggin rocked
05:21.21[Liquidor]nah never heard of it
05:21.37hyperChipmunk"All your manahoars have been slaughtered."
05:21.58ckknighthyperChipmunk: yea, that's where my circular menu idea stems from.
05:23.14ckknightso you press a button or click, the menu shows up, you go up to go to the tradeskills circle, and that becomes its own menu dealy
05:23.19ckknightetc.
05:23.27hyperChipmunkexactly
05:23.40ckknightalright, so I'm thinking Starfish.
05:23.48hyperChipmunkand that's what i meant by going with the sucker metaphor
05:24.04hyperChipmunkclick it to stick it as its own root for extended tradeskill sessions
05:24.17ckknightyea
05:24.27hyperChipmunkthat's one thing that always frustrated me with radial menus
05:24.42ckknightand possibly assign certain submenus a keybinding
05:24.51ckknightso that in combat, you can press "J", let's say
05:24.54hyperChipmunkyea, nwn took advantage of that
05:24.55ckknightand your potions come up
05:24.56ckknightor something
05:25.18hyperChipmunkthe numpad aliased to the positions around the circle
05:25.34[Liquidor]okay so a BF2142 menu alike
05:25.36ckknightah, my keyboard has no numpad
05:25.55[Liquidor]ckknight: that's oldschool
05:25.56hyperChipmunkso even though you couldn't sticky it, you'd get pretty good with common sequences
05:25.59[Liquidor]I bet you use notepad too
05:26.06ckknight...no
05:26.08NightHawkTheSanei bet he plays on a laptop
05:26.10hyperChipmunkno, that's iFruit
05:26.11ckknightI just have a laptop
05:26.14NightHawkTheSaneand laptops typically do not have numpads
05:26.27[Liquidor]well same, but I got a keyboard connected
05:27.18hyperChipmunki tried installing sacrifice in wine a few months back; couldn't get the installer to go D8<
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05:27.35[Liquidor]got this office table where I just place my laptop in the marked area and voila... mouse, 19"TFT, keyboard, mic and speakers connected <3
05:27.48ckknightI'm on my bed
05:27.50[Liquidor]oh and intarweb
05:28.24NightHawkTheSaneI think I have sacrifice disks somewhere.
05:28.41[Liquidor]well a menu to popup when like hitting space (altho I'm sure ppl would like another hotkey since they MUST be able to jump) in the center of the screen?
05:28.52[Liquidor]or holding*
05:29.16[Liquidor]or popup at your mouse possition
05:29.30xysticDoes anyone here play WoW with an X3000?
05:29.41[Liquidor]then you choose the options around and you get a new circular menu with sub-toptions
05:29.48CIA-2203funkydude * r41359 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: spite warning
05:29.48[Liquidor]amirite, ckknight ?
05:29.55ckknightyes.
05:29.59ckknightit expands into new menus
05:30.00[Liquidor]well that would be great
05:30.14Adirelledamn, I get disconnected a few second after loading :/
05:30.17[Liquidor]make it "fucking faded"
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05:31.23[Liquidor]well instead of icons... ellipses with text in
05:31.29ckknightwhatever.
05:31.32ckknight:-P
05:31.39[Liquidor]you even gonna make it?
05:31.47[Liquidor]go make AceArt imo
05:32.40ZealotOnAStickAceArt's a crappy name.
05:33.37Funkeh`LiteBrush
05:34.02ZealotOnAStickso is that.  Might as well call it LiteBrite.
05:34.22NightHawkTheSaneI like LiteBrite
05:34.24ZealotOnASticklots and lots of art references out there.
05:34.26Funkeh`maybe ArtOnAStick?
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05:36.54AntiarcOy.
05:37.01AntiarcAnd for like the billionth time in a row:
05:37.09AntiarcI lose my T4 hat to someone that is on their first or second run.
05:37.22Antiarc<PROTECTED>
05:37.32NightHawkTheSanemeh :P
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05:39.14Funkeh`Antiarc: hoarde for t6
05:39.31AntiarcFunkeh`: We run separate DKP for separate instances
05:39.39syerenckknight.
05:39.39syeren[2007/06/23 06:33:25-1252-x1]: CowTip\CowTip.lua:733: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 690) near 'other'
05:39.39syeren---
05:39.44syerenI take it you have fixed this already?
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05:40.08ckknightlocally.
05:40.17ckknightjust stick a comma in there.
05:40.25syerenCopy and paste your line please :D
05:40.49[Liquidor]syeren: slack
05:41.31syerenset = "SetBackgroundColor",
05:41.31syerenargs = {
05:41.31syerenguild = {
05:42.00ckknightbefore dead
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05:42.58syerenThere is no dead anywhere near that line, unless that has some other meaning.
05:43.13ZealotOnAStickLouvre.  ArtShow.  Exhibition.  
05:43.17ZealotOnAStickVirtuoso.
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05:43.32ZealotOnAStickI dunno, lots of more art-ey things that could be used.  Just something better than "AceArt"
05:44.01syeren},
05:44.02syerendead = {
05:44.42hyperChipmunkckknight: about modularity.  I think it'd be nice to be able to install/select packages, which are basically a submenu set
05:44.49ckknightvery, very true.
05:44.56hyperChipmunkthen you can attach them to the root, or even to other packages
05:45.02hyperChipmunkbut that way
05:45.06syerenIs it supposed to be here ckknight?
05:45.06syeren}
05:45.06syerenother = {
05:45.06syerenname = "Other",
05:45.11hyperChipmunkyou can have a tradeskill package, say
05:45.19hyperChipmunkand plug it in
05:45.47hyperChipmunkor you can have maybe a closetgnome-type package if someone wants to make one
05:45.50ckknightsyeren: stick a , after }
05:46.28hyperChipmunkbasically, define a package as a single node with children, and just provide the base root
05:47.01hyperChipmunkand everything else is a package (or whatever you want to call it) that gets plugged into the tree somewhere
05:47.03syerenThat's on line 732 ckknight :P
05:47.29syerenEither way, time to see :)
05:47.31hyperChipmunknormally the root, but you should give the user the freedom to make his own submenus
05:47.38[Liquidor]ZealotOnAStick: I didn't mean to name it AceArt. Just using that name so ppl knows what I'm requesting. AceArt should be saying a lot
05:47.51Adirelledoes the loadmanagers things really works ???
05:47.53AntiarcCall it MonaLacea
05:47.58hyperChipmunklike a submenu from the root where they can put all of their packages of one type
05:49.01hyperChipmunkbut doing it that way, you play to your strengths -- writing a framework that can be extended in an infinite number of ways
05:49.35[Liquidor]Imo hyperChipmunk ...
05:49.57[Liquidor]...you should just send me Stargate Atlantis Season 1 Episode 1 and 2.
05:50.23hyperChipmunk[Liquidor]: you're gettin' on my nerves tonight
05:51.01[Liquidor]Sorry, just that.. Servers are taken down for 3 hours :/
05:51.30hyperChipmunktake it out on someone else >*p
05:51.51Gnarfozor rather, get the episodes yourself
05:55.31CIA-2203arkayenro 07testcode * r41360 10ArkInventory/: Created folder remotely
05:58.06ckknightclearly the art addon should be called Guybrush
05:58.21hyperChipmunkhehe
06:00.57syerenWowhead got bought by IGE.
06:01.01syerenCrazy.
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06:01.22Gnarfozwhat doesn't?
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06:02.12CIA-2203arkayenro 07testcode * r41361 10ArkInventory/ (13 files):
06:02.12CIA-22ArkInventory: TestCode
06:02.12CIA-22- example code for blizzard
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06:04.45ckknightsyeren: for reals?
06:05.40[Liquidor]How do you know syeren ? There's no info about it on wowhead
06:06.51Gnarfozindeed
06:07.40KarlThePagangiggawha ops?
06:07.53syerenckknight.
06:08.00syerenThey sold for around 1.2 million or something.
06:08.25hyperChipmunksee if they want to buy wowace.com
06:08.26syerenhttp://www.techsoapbox.com/hot-off-the-presses-wowhead-sold-for-over-1-million/
06:09.16syerenSo IGE own Thotbott, Allakhazam, and Wowhead now.
06:09.41hyperChipmunkthere's no page there
06:09.52hyperChipmunkand there's nothing on the wowhead.com news & announcements
06:11.11KarlThePaganI was waiting for wowhead to deliver some better-than-the-rest application (gear profiler or somesuch)
06:11.13ckknightare you sure it isn't just backlash from the April Fool's joke?
06:12.11hyperChipmunkfunny thing about the april fools joke, it was oddly premonitional
06:13.53syerenYou have to remember, Affinity Media leave pretty much no information about themselves.
06:14.01syerenNo one even knew they bought Allakhazam for a while.
06:14.05hyperChipmunkwish it was more so; bliz would have done better to get wowhead, rather than that garbage that is the armory
06:14.22KarlThePaganqft
06:14.43syerenhttp://www.zam.com/
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06:15.25KarlThePaganI would be really bummed if this means that wowh won't be producing any additional applications
06:15.36Kaeltenwowh?
06:15.44hyperChipmunkyea
06:15.59[Liquidor]Pfft I got my own search engine <3
06:15.59Kaeltenwho/whats that?
06:16.03syerenCan't find any information on Affinity Media or ZAM Networks.
06:16.08syerenApart from their owner used to be an actor.
06:16.13KarlThePaganwowhead - $1 million /pinkyfinger
06:16.13hyperChipmunklol
06:16.45hyperChipmunkkael, you need to get us bought by IGE
06:16.45ckknightKaelten: wowhead
06:16.56hyperChipmunki want my cut of the $1.2M
06:17.01hyperChipmunki'm friggin poor
06:17.07ckknightand I'm not?
06:17.15hyperChipmunkyou live in hawaii
06:17.16[Liquidor]http://i13.tinypic.com/5y308kj.jpg -- tho it's in v1.23 now so kinda old screenshot
06:17.21hyperChipmunkyou're poor in a pleasant place, at least
06:17.28hyperChipmunkI'm poor in Detroit
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06:18.35Nemes_ckknight... you around?
06:18.40ckknightyea
06:18.54NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: detroit? my sincerest condolances. :P
06:19.00Nemes_woot... I was going to code a small enhancement for PitBull... tell me what you think
06:19.30hyperChipmunkhe thinks you're a loser and an idiot
06:19.37Nemes_I was going to add a buff highlight option to highlight only buffs you cast - that way druids and priests can keep track of their own HOTs
06:19.58ckknightNemes_: okay
06:20.10Nemes_how do you want it - send you a diff file?
06:20.31KarlThePaganI wonder what potential exists for synergy between aloft and pitbull modules
06:20.33ckknightthat'd owrk
06:20.34ckknightwork*
06:20.45ckknightNemes_: put it in ace.pastey.net
06:21.11Nemes_ah sweet... never seen that before
06:21.51hyperChipmunkprobably because you're a loser and an idiot
06:21.57ckknightdon't be like that, hyperChipmunk
06:22.07hyperChipmunkshut up, loser
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06:22.31ckknightplay nice.
06:22.39Funkeh`i think you both suck
06:22.41Funkeh`noobs
06:22.42hyperChipmunkhey i have botmail
06:22.43KarlThePagankek
06:22.49hyperChipmunki would not have known
06:22.50[Liquidor]:O I was only gone for 75 secs and then there's drama :((
06:23.01KarlThePagantoo bad it'll be over soon
06:23.02hyperChipmunkwtf
06:23.07hyperChipmunkit's from sedatedChipmunk
06:23.15ckknight?
06:23.15hyperChipmunkhe says, 'Zzzzzzzzz'
06:23.19ckknightlol.
06:24.02hyperChipmunkquite appropriate, too
06:24.09hyperChipmunksince it was exactly what i was thinking
06:24.14hyperChipmunkg'night folks
06:24.29Antiarcckknight: Setting the unit anchor to the top left anchors it to the top of the actual anchor
06:24.40AntiarcSo I position the anchor and the tooltip is setpoint'd to the top, not the topleft
06:24.47ckknightodd.
06:25.02CIA-2203adirelle * r41362 10SpellEventsLib/libs/: SpellEventsLib: another attempt to fix externals.
06:25.07ckknightsedatedChipmunk: you're still gonna be around for like 3 hours, aren't you?
06:25.21sedatedChipmunkprobably >8P
06:25.55Funkeh`WAU has a total of 390053 downloads
06:26.27ZealotOnAStickwhich version, though.
06:26.36ZealotOnAStickThere was one day last week that had like 3 versions on one day.
06:26.48ZealotOnAStickor maybe about 2 weeks ago.
06:26.56Funkeh`downloads ever
06:27.26Kaeltenmy best guestimate says we have ~200k users
06:27.29Kaelten150-200k
06:27.54Funkeh`omen will boost that dramatically
06:27.58syerenBy far the most popular WoW website, it went for a reported $100,000, with Bill (Thott) hired at a $100,000/year salary. Not only did this give IGE the most trafficked MMO site on the internet, it also gave it a lot of leverage against Blizzard.
06:27.58KarlThePaganI will put in some serious time on wau2 stability this weekend
06:28.00Funkeh`hf next patch day
06:28.48KarlThePaganyarly
06:29.06Funkeh`KarlThePagan: ya integrating the 1.x features into 2.x ?
06:29.32AntiarcKalman|: Ping
06:29.35sedatedChipmunksyeren: which is, of course, a load of crap.  Blizzard owns WoW in its entirety.
06:29.36KarlThePaganwell it's multithreaded already
06:29.40Kalman|Antiarc: Pong.
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06:29.47AntiarcI did Netherspite with 310 hit tonight
06:29.48AntiarcNary a miss
06:29.55Antiarc5% combat talents + 310 hit
06:30.01AntiarcSo there's a data point
06:30.10KarlThePaganand it has changelog support that just needs a front-end
06:30.17Funkeh`KarlThePagan: and i guess the fact im downloading for 2min every time i open it is it auto updating?
06:30.33Funkeh`KarlThePagan: i meant more of unpacking files, blanking embeds/modules.xml etc
06:31.13KarlThePaganFunkeh`, yes currently support filelist.wau, migrating to .wau and embeds/modules.xml
06:31.41KarlThePaganand that few minutes of updating is keeping itself up to date yea
06:32.02Funkeh`just wondering because i close it right now, and open it again it takes another 2min
06:32.04KarlThePagani hope to get a better update mechanism implemented after stability and java 5 support are fixed
06:32.11KarlThePaganyea :/
06:32.25sedatedChipmunkget off the 28.8K
06:32.26Funkeh`im hoping thats not being pumped through wowace
06:32.38Funkeh`sedatedChipmunk: go to sleep, im on 8mb
06:32.49KarlThePaganit is, but it's only checking html headers of a few files
06:33.19KarlThePaganerr HTTP headers
06:35.11CIA-2203miyu * r41363 10Postal/Locales/zhTW.lua: Postal: - Update zhTW locale file
06:36.08Funkeh`ffs
06:36.19Funkeh`why do they clear the cache files when they update the launched
06:36.24Funkeh`launcher*
06:36.26Funkeh`idiots
06:36.29AntiarcI'm very, very happy with how Threat performed tonight
06:36.32AntiarcExtremely happy.
06:36.49Funkeh`Antiarc: its auto updating in game?
06:36.54Antiarceh?
06:37.06Funkeh`that would make me extremely happy!
06:37.11AntiarcMy fixes from last night seemed to have addressed the majority of the outstanding issues
06:37.29Funkeh`orly
06:37.46Funkeh`don't worry ill have a nice big batch of errors for you later
06:39.14Funkeh`Antiarc: did you fix the % overlapping threat problem in omen?
06:40.37CIA-2203antiarc * r41364 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Consolidate the threat list update code.
06:41.14Funkeh`Antiarc: oh and remove the guild version query code =)
06:41.33KirkburnBtw, if people start going on about the Wowhead thing, link them http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14235
06:41.38AntiarcNo, not yet, and okay :P
06:41.50PeoiiI actually like the version query.
06:42.02Peoiikeeps us all running on the same page ;)
06:42.21Funkeh`Peoii: hes not removing the version query
06:42.26Peoiiquite a few people in the guild have been using threat, and it's shown more reliable than KTM in a couple fights for us.
06:42.56Funkeh`Peoii: basically it should use the whisper channel not the guild channel, it means less spam
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06:44.11Funkeh`Peoii: for example if you log on right now your threat says 'hi' in guild and everyone else replys 'hi' in guild, its being changed so that everyone else says 'hi' back in whisper
06:44.58PeoiiFunkeh`: Thanks for getting indepth, but I understood from the get-go ;)  I was just saying I liked it.
06:45.18Funkeh`bleh
06:45.30Peoiilol, it's ok ;)
06:45.53PeoiiI work with people every day who do the same thing.  Don't worry mate.
06:47.27CIA-2203hegarol * r41365 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.de.lua Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua):
06:47.27CIA-22AtlasLoot:
06:47.27CIA-22- Raid loot upgrade
06:47.27CIA-22- German update
06:49.25CIA-2203antiarc * r41366 10Omen/ (DefaultSkins.lua OmenDisplay.lua OmenThreatBar.lua): Omen: Fixed a few visual problems. Fixed an excess bar creation.
06:52.37CIA-2203cryect * r41367 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua):
06:52.37CIA-22Recount - Improvements to memory usage on graph window (still high per operation for stacked graphs but thats due to how the math is being done)
06:52.37CIA-22-When you add all the combatants at once for comparison to the graph window should be faster and less memory consuming
06:54.37ckknightPeoii: you see, the version query is _not_ going to be removed.
06:54.54Funkeh`ckknight: lol
06:54.56AntiarcA backwards-compatible more spammy query is being removed
06:55.01syerenI thought you was going to bed two hours ago ckknight :P?
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06:55.13ckknight...no
06:55.16Funkeh`that was mr chipmunk
06:55.18ckknightit's only like 9 PM
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06:55.45syerenAh, you said "I'm on my bed."
06:55.51syerenNot "I'm going to bed."
06:55.52syeren:p
06:56.05Funkeh`hes inviting you, syeren
06:56.26ckknightlol
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07:01.50CIA-2203kaelten * r41368 10/tags/KC_Items/:
07:01.50CIA-22KC_Items:
07:01.50CIA-22- Created folder remotely
07:02.09CIA-2203kaelten 070.x * r41369 10KC_Items/:
07:02.09CIA-22KC_Items:
07:02.09CIA-22- Tagging
07:03.03CIA-2203kaelten * r41370 10KC_Items/ (18 files in 14 dirs):
07:03.03CIA-22KC_Items:
07:03.03CIA-22- Deleting Trunk
07:04.27CIA-2203toadkiller * r41371 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
07:04.27CIA-22PeriodicTable-3.0:
07:04.27CIA-22-- Fiery Warhorse's Reins (30480), Banishing Crystal (32696)
07:04.42ThraeKaelten_: "Deleting Trunk" is a scary message for Wowace SVN!
07:04.51Kaelten_lol
07:05.10ThraeAre you abandoning KC_Items?
07:05.11CIA-2203ckknight * r41372 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - move away from the awkward Dewdrop way to set lines and use a custom config box.
07:05.27Kaelten_no
07:06.00ThraeAhh, now I see it
07:06.01ckknightAntiarc: test
07:06.09Kaelten_hrm
07:06.15Kaelten_I have this part never can get it tow rok right
07:06.15CIA-2203antiarc * r41373 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Measure gain overheal on the recipient, not on ourselves. Should fix all discrepancies in VT threat! \o/
07:06.17AntiarcPong
07:06.20AntiarcOh, ok
07:06.36CIA-2203adirelle * r41374 10BankList/BankList.lua: BankList: increased the time between item queries to avoid disconnection.
07:07.25Peoiianyone have an SS with the latest Bigwigs showing it in action (ie: active bars/etc)
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07:08.31CIA-2203adirelle * r41375 10CastYeller/ (CastYeller.toc announces/rogue.lua):
07:08.31CIA-22CastYeller:
07:08.31CIA-22- CastYeller can be load-managed by AddonLoader (load on party),
07:08.31CIA-22- added enUS rogue announces, thanks to Mylar@Medivh-US.
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07:14.49CIA-2203funkydude * r41376 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: tweaks
07:15.52Funkeh`Peoii: just load it and hit test bars
07:16.33CIA-2203kaelten * r41377 10KC_Items/ (16 files in 7 dirs):
07:16.33CIA-22KC_Items:
07:16.33CIA-22- Replacing Trunk with Ace2 branch
07:16.50Funkeh`Kaelten_: awesomeness
07:17.02Kaelten_still lots of work to do :)
07:17.32AntiarcKaelten_: Any progress on that mod traffic page? ;)
07:17.53ckknightooh, Ace2? keeping up with all the new trends, I see
07:17.56ckknight:-P
07:18.13Kaelten_Antiarc: to give any meaningful results I'm going to have to write a custom parser
07:18.21Kaelten_not complicated just havn't taken the time to do it yet
07:18.57AntiarcIf you want to give me the specs I'll whip one together in python or ruby
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07:22.09CIA-2203ckknight * r41378 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - properly wrap the business code in :Evaluate in a pcall
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07:27.15theoddone33http://woodgears.ca/marbleadd/index.html that is ridiculously interesting
07:27.22theoddone33moreso for programmer types I imagine
07:28.28CIA-2203adirelle * r41379 10BankList/BankList.lua: BankList: bugfix.
07:29.52KirkburnA mod traffic page? But what about those downloads I could have added to my count from the last few months?? :( Maybe I should just theorise that I've had 1 million downloads ;)
07:30.09CIA-2203adirelle * r41380 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua Threat-1.0.xml ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua):
07:30.09CIA-22Threat-1.0:
07:30.09CIA-22- KLHTM support moved to its own file,
07:30.09CIA-22- catch and remember versionresponses,
07:30.09CIA-22- added KLHTM methods for: setting/clearing master target, querying versions.
07:30.10CIA-22- added KLHTM related events.
07:30.46ckknightvery cool, theoddone33
07:31.27CIA-2203adirelle * r41381 10ThreatToKTM/ (ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc):
07:31.27CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
07:31.27CIA-22- updated for latest ThreatLib changes (r41380),
07:31.27CIA-22- display KLHTM & ThreatLib versions in tooltip again.
07:31.52CIA-2203ckknight * r41382 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - hacky bugfix
07:32.26Adirelleanyone tested misdirection in a mixed KTM/ThreatLib environment ?
07:32.36NightHawkTheSanehehe.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010662.html
07:32.44CIA-2203ckknight * r41383 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - make it so that if you have code on the left and code on the right, it will show even if one is not shown, e.g. [Name] / [Target] will show even if [Target] is blank.
07:37.07Tupsi[2007/06/23 09:35:34-1137-x1]: CowTip\CowTip.lua:733: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 690) near 'other'
07:37.07Tupsi<PROTECTED>
07:39.05theoddone33what's this new questgiver next to the flight guy in shatt for?
07:39.12theoddone33I flew away before I noticed him :(
07:41.17Tupsiah you already fixed that nm
07:42.37NightHawkTheSanetheoddone33: skettis quest line
07:42.51theoddone33hm not that guy
07:43.00NightHawkTheSanethen i have no idea
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07:43.08theoddone33I'll head back there
07:43.49theoddone33I have paladin warp speed anyway
07:43.56NightHawkTheSaneit took me a while to even realize the skettis quest npc was there, as I never visit flight masters anymore
07:44.31theoddone33ah what a letdown
07:44.35theoddone33festival of the flame guys
07:44.49NightHawkTheSaneoh, really? neat. ill have to check that out
07:45.07theoddone33yeah
07:45.10theoddone33probably good xp
07:45.27theoddone33I normally don't go for seasonal quests
07:45.31NightHawkTheSanemeh, i dont care about xp, i just love the seasonal stuff.
07:45.46theoddone33I need all the xp I can get
07:45.55theoddone33I got so sick of leveling that I ran up 150% rested :(
07:46.08FISKER_Q~congratulate [Ammo]
07:46.17purlACTION congratulates [Ammo] on being a new owner of a $500 brick.
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07:49.45[Ammo]euh?
07:56.46Gnarfozno xp at all, I guess
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07:56.57Gnarfozthe festival quests are marked as level 1
07:57.13Gnarfozor 60?
07:57.14Gnarfozhm
07:57.17art3misthat marble calc is pretty cool
07:57.19Gnarfozyeah 60.
07:57.21Gnarfozwhatever
07:57.25Wobin60
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07:57.48GnarfozI must have mixed that up with them fixing the moon festival quest :D
07:58.23Gnarfozthat gave ~5k exp, and was doable even by level 1 characters... got me from level 5 right to level 10
07:58.26Gnarfoz^^
07:58.37art3miswheres the one in azshara?
07:58.44art3misi seem to have fergotten where they all are
07:59.12FISKER_Qanyone know about cowtip?
07:59.20NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: near 41,43 i believe
07:59.27NightHawkTheSaneFISKER_Q: tooltip mod, uses dogtag.
07:59.38FISKER_Qsure know that
07:59.55FISKER_Qbut "unit frame tooltip" and "unit tooltip"
08:00.04FISKER_Qunit tooltip is the players on the gamearea itself right?
08:00.11FISKER_Qwhen i mouse over their model
08:00.15NightHawkTheSaneI would assume so, yes
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08:04.13Funkeh`later folks
08:07.28Icerothokay, does anyone know any addons besides PersolanSentry that would show additional information in minimap tooltips when Track Humanoids is active?
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08:09.53[Ammo]ping Mikk
08:10.00Fin~seen damjau
08:10.21purldamjau <i=________@58.77.154.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 236d 1h 25m 2s ago, saying: 'sorry... TT'.
08:10.21Sukutaelol I need help, anyone here good with WAU?  by that I mean you're not a nub like me :P
08:10.41Finwoah, had to think about that one eh purl
08:10.58[Liquidor]Sukutae: you mark the addons you want... click Update/Install Marked addons... Done
08:11.13AntiarcKaelten gave me a logfile, but it's all from the same IP..
08:11.16Sukutaerolf... got that much... but I'm getting a 0 parsing error
08:11.22Sukutaerofl rather :P
08:11.25[Liquidor]Sukutae: #wau
08:11.48Sukutaeon it
08:14.03Sukutaethx liquidor :)
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08:15.06Dhirmadigood morning all
08:15.54Dhirmadii was wondering, anyone know something about item tool tips, i.e displaying the stats when you move over it with your mouse?
08:16.01theoddone33huh
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08:16.08theoddone33gold spammers are now trying proper grammar and politeness
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08:16.34Dhirmadiproper customer service?
08:17.28starlonI saw one gold spammer's url obfuscated by WoW
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08:17.32theoddone33"sorry to bother, I just wonder if you want to buy some gold, I won't message you again if not"
08:18.09Dhirmadivery nice :)
08:18.37Dhirmadiso anyone and pointes on how to put the itemlink into a fontstring so it shows the item stats on mouseover?
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08:20.30Sukutaelol wish I knew my code that well... I can't even get any help on this zero parsing error :(
08:24.02CIA-2203ckknight * r41384 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - make the default tooltip backgrounds darker
08:24.40Dhirmadizero parsin error?
08:24.49Sukutaeone sec and I'll link the exact error
08:25.19SukutaeVersion Check...Error
08:25.21SukutaeError During Download: System.Net.WebException: The underlying connection was closed: The connection was closed unexpectedly.
08:25.22Sukutae<PROTECTED>
08:25.24Sukutae<PROTECTED>
08:25.26Sukutae<PROTECTED>
08:25.28SukutaeError During Download: System.Net.WebException: The underlying connection was closed: The connection was closed unexpectedly.
08:25.29Sukutae<PROTECTED>
08:25.31Sukutae<PROTECTED>
08:25.32Sukutae<PROTECTED>
08:25.34SukutaeParsing 0 Entries In The Index File...Complete
08:25.35NightHawkTheSane...
08:26.00NightHawkTheSaneIf you're pasting more than ~2 lines, use some kind of pastebin site.
08:26.00NightHawkTheSanedon't freaking spam irc.
08:26.03[Liquidor]heh
08:26.20Sukutaesrry... didn't mean to spam or anything,,,  I've just been to more than 10 channels and have gotten nothing
08:26.22[Liquidor]btw did US realms have rerolls last night?
08:26.33Kirkburn|awaySukutae, #wau for WAU stuff
08:26.43[Liquidor]already  posted that Kirkburn|away
08:26.48Kirkburn|awaySo I see :P
08:26.51SukutaeI did.... there's only 2 ppl there and no one helped
08:26.52[Liquidor]He's even in the channel
08:26.53Kirkburn|awayCheck your firewall, Sukutae
08:27.08Sukutaekk sec
08:27.17Kirkburn|awayEvery time you get a new version, it will likely need resetting
08:28.10Kirkburn|awayFailing that, try the other mirror from the list
08:28.45Sukutaetried both... same error :(
08:28.56Dhirmadihmm now that more folks are awake, anyone pointing me into a direction, how to display item inforation on mouseover?
08:29.06syerenWow.
08:29.11syerenHow fucking dumb do IGE think people are.
08:29.12syerenNews travels fast! We were hoping to have the time to put together a proper announcement about this, but it appears word is already out, so we wanted to acknowledge it: now that IGE is out of the picture, Wowhead has decided to become a part of the ZAM Network. We'll post a lot more information later today. Stay tuned!
08:29.27syerenAnd guess who ZAM Network are and funded by, IGE.
08:29.42syerenckknight, there's the announcement ;p
08:30.03ckknightlame
08:30.12theoddone33I wonder how much it takes to buy wow head
08:30.26ckknight1.2mil
08:30.38Kirkburn|awaysyeren, no, they aren't
08:30.48theoddone33it just had to be a number out of my budget didn't it
08:30.49AdirelleAntiarc: I've got some trouble with omen and aggroHolder
08:30.53syerenhttp://www.zam.com/
08:30.55Antiarcoh?
08:30.59Kirkburn|awayhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Wowhead#.23Ownership
08:31.11syerenhttp://wow.azzor.com/445/truth_about_IGE.php
08:31.14Kirkburn|awayYes, IGE is not part of the Affinity network any more
08:31.17Adirellehttp://ace.pastey.net/62895
08:31.20FISKER_Qsyeren they just got sold off
08:31.21Kirkburn|awayThat info is old, read up on what I linked
08:31.32FISKER_Qso it's not goldfarmers anymore
08:32.23AntiarcHrm.
08:32.26AntiarcLemme look into it
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08:32.40Dhirmadihmm aside from the HOT topic of goldfarmers, anyone able to point me somehwre where i can read up on how to display item information based on the item link?
08:33.03ckknightDhirmadi: wowwiki?
08:33.11FISKER_Qbut man
08:33.16FISKER_Q1 million dollars
08:33.25FISKER_Qi'm gonna be begging skosiris for money all day long
08:33.26syerenAntiarc, IGE have tried to disassociate themselves from the core so many times.
08:33.35syerenLook at the story behind what Yantis did with his original site.
08:33.35syeren;p
08:34.13Kirkburn|awayEveryone involved with IGE and Affinity are saying they are no longer related
08:34.19Dhirmadinot found anything solid there :(
08:34.34Sukutaeis there any other servers other than  http://files.wowace.com/ or http://svn.wowace.com/ or am I inputting them wrong?
08:34.40syerenYou can't ever find any solid information on any of the companies :/
08:34.49syerenThat's the big problem, you can just find their sites :P
08:35.16Kirkburn|awayDid you read that Gamasutra article?
08:36.02Kirkburn|awayIt's about the most in-depth we'll ever get
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08:36.54NightHawkTheSaneshouldn't that all be public knowledge, anyway?
08:37.14Dhirmadithe examples shows there CK always refrain to a chat windo. i am putting the itemlink into a fontstring... not finding any example ther
08:37.35Kirkburn|awayDunno, the business's are private
08:37.41ckknightDhirmadi: make a tooltip
08:37.50ckknightDhirmadi: then you want to do :SetItemLink(string)
08:37.58ckknightthen mess with said tooltip
08:37.58syerenSome nice spin indeed Kirkburn|away ;)
08:38.00ckknightand such.
08:38.03Adirellehmm... is there an addon that enables Blizzard's 'low life' glowing frame ?
08:38.11Kirkburn|awaysyeren, oh shush :P
08:38.20Dhirmadihmmm ok.. then let me find information on how to create a tooltip
08:38.53Adirellethere is something in my addon that does this, but I can't see which
08:39.07Adirelleand I don't know what triggers it either
08:40.02Dhirmadioglow?
08:40.09syerenKirkburn|away, as I am sure you are well aware, that company is far too shady to just take what some executive says as truth :)
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08:40.30Kirkburn|awayOr what the owners of Alla, Wowhead, Wowinterface or others say
08:41.07syerenThey're owned by him ;)
08:41.30NightHawkTheSane*shrug* if you're being cynical, they're basically just shills who either are lied to or lying.
08:41.33Kirkburn|awayWell, naturally everyone would then of course lie
08:41.38AntiarcAdirelle: If you're talking about Omen, it's the warnings
08:41.53AntiarcIf you cross 90% of your tank's threat by default, Omen flashes the warning frame
08:42.02Adirelleoh
08:42.03AntiarcThat's all configurable, and it can play a sound too
08:42.04Adirellethat's it
08:42.14Adirelledidn't remember I enabled it
08:42.24NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn|away: not eveyrone. I'd believe a credible 3rd party, or publicly available official documents
08:42.35AntiarcIt's on by default
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08:42.43Kirkburn|awayYou think he lied to Gamasutra?
08:43.06Adirellethat could be what causes the error btws
08:43.23Sukutae_:'(...  I give up :(
08:43.25syerenThe thing that leads me to this disposistion is how hard to find it is to find information on such a huge company.
08:43.46[Liquidor]But what do you need such information for?
08:43.50syerenEspecially one of which earns the majority of it's money on the internet.
08:44.46NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn|away: It's possible, and reasonable. why wouldn't he?
08:44.55Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/wowace/20070613.html
08:44.58syerenKirkburn|away: http://www.f13.net/index.php?catid=14
08:45.03syerenmore information :D
08:45.50Firikare those download numbers correct?
08:46.05AntiarcParsed straight from the wowace logs
08:46.11Kirkburn|awaysyeren, which supports what I said?
08:46.18NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn|away: to be sure, i'm not saying i believe one way or another, merely that I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that involved parties may have lied *shrug*
08:46.20AntiarcKaelten gave me server logs :)
08:46.26Kirkburn|awayThat Affinity, which now owns Wowhead is NOT in the gold selling business
08:46.28Firiknice
08:46.53Kirkburn|awayWoo, 18th
08:47.16[Ammo]woot 2nd and 4th :)
08:47.28Kirkburn|awayWoo, you totally had an update on that day, woo
08:47.42[Liquidor]1397.littleWigs1
08:47.49[Liquidor]giggle
08:47.51NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: are those unique visitors or just total file accesses?
08:47.59syerenWow, Jonathan Yantis is hid very well.
08:48.14syerenAnd why would Affinity Media sell of it's biggest grossing division O_o;
08:48.17AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: Total file accesses - it looks like everything is behind a load balancer or something because every entry in the log has the same IP :x
08:48.32Kirkburn|awaysyeren, so now you're disbelieving /everything/ you read? :P
08:48.36NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: doh. >< in that case, those numbers are... not quite as useful :P
08:48.42Kirkburn|awayBut yes, I do think it's odd they sold
08:48.51AntiarcNo, not so much.
08:48.53Kirkburn|awayI guess they had a very good offer, and that they wanted to improve their image
08:49.00syerenNo, just reading up on the history of this company Kirkburn|away doesn't make me the easiest person to convince ;p
08:49.17[Liquidor]Although I drool over 1$ million for a web community, I don't get why they would sell WoWHead just like that... and then for 1$ million only?
08:49.18NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: though still interesting..
08:49.26NightHawkTheSanedecyrsuve at 17,  eh... hmm
08:49.39Kirkburn|awaysyeren, fair cop :)
08:49.42Adirellebtw, is ThreatLib horriblely broken ?
08:49.49AntiarcNo, why?
08:49.55AntiarcIt was performing very well for me tonight
08:50.15Kirkburn|awayAdirelle, wonderfully specific bug report, that ;)
08:50.33Dhirmadianti you sure? omen and tl where really dissagreeing with eachother last night on prince for me
08:50.34AdirelleI meant since I commited a big change ?
08:50.44AntiarcAdirelle: Oh, no, haven't tested it
08:50.49AntiarcDhirmadi: I made major changes last night
08:50.52Dhirmadibut no eeeor, hence no bug :)
08:51.13Dhirmadianti, in that casei look forad testing it again tonight and will provide any error i may find
08:51.13AdirelleI'm testing it since yesterday... but we never know :p
08:51.19Kirkburn|awayAdirelle, how was I supposed to know :( I thought only the British self-deprecated
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08:52.17Adirelle"I thought only the British self-deprecated" ???
08:52.17RoartindonMikkZzz: ping
08:53.00Kirkburn|awayMade sense to me :)
08:53.02Kirkburn|awayAnyway, I'm off
08:53.05Kirkburn|awayBb 2moro
08:53.07[Ammo]Roartindon: trying to find mikk as well :p
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08:54.24AntiarcDhirmadi: What class do you play?
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08:59.16Dhirmadianti: huntard
09:04.46loonacySorry for the newb question:  I have self.Button1 which is a protected button that casts a spell when clicked, and I have a keybinding set up... How would I make the keybinding trigger the button?
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09:13.02Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/wowace/june.html
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09:14.51Roartindon[Ammo]: Is it about dewdrop?
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09:17.38[Ammo]Roartindon: well ckknight reverted mikk's changes
09:17.46Roartindon[Ammo]: ah, I didn't realise
09:17.58[Ammo]which kinda sucks
09:18.12[Ammo]but just use r41317 of dewdrop and it works fine, unless you use pitbull shrug
09:18.15Roartindon[Ammo]: Well, all I know is that there was a version I tried a few hours ago, that wasn't passing in passValue
09:18.46Roartindon[Ammo]: to my get() methods for text types, with validates
09:19.13[Ammo]that mgith be a bug by mikk
09:19.23[Ammo]ckknight reverted that
09:19.27Roartindonah
09:19.34[Ammo]so it should be ok again, apart from violation which is broken now
09:19.51Roartindon[Ammo]: d'oh..
09:20.03RoartindonI gotta spend some time
09:20.12Roartindonand figure out which Ace addon is causing Ace2 library to grow by 32Mb
09:20.17Roartindonafter my day's raid in SSC
09:20.54[Ammo]nice
09:21.01[Ammo]I've never seen that happen
09:21.06[Ammo]so it must be something you're using and I'm not :)
09:21.13Roartindon[Ammo]: Must be :)
09:21.23Roartindon[Ammo]: do you use Pitbull?
09:21.42[Ammo]nope I don't
09:21.45RoartindonExpo showed it using > 1MB after 3 minutes for just UpdateAllMenu... but, that's getting allocated to Ace2
09:22.17[Ammo]I use agUF because I don't need anything that pitbull has to offer
09:25.04Adirelleckknight: any chance that cowtip config gets reset regulary (like pitbull's one) ?
09:25.16ckknightAdirelle: no, not really
09:25.20ckknightwell, as I add new features
09:25.22ckknightclearly.
09:26.17nevcairieldoes anyone know what the launcher update was for?
09:31.04omega_not related to the armoured nether drakes?
09:31.12nevcairielhahaha theyve tried to fix the problem with people not receiving their nether drake .. and now i got a second one in mail =P
09:31.52nevcairieloh, they removed my previous one from my inventory
09:31.54nevcairieloh well
09:31.58omega_As a result of this update, we will first remove all Armoured Nether Drake mounts, after which we will resend Armoured Nether Drake mounts to only those players who should have received them.
09:32.39omega_they where aparently handing them out to everyone
09:32.50nevcairielah.
09:32.56nevcairieland i wondered why that one team got them
09:33.26AntiarcMan, parsing one week of wowace logs takes like 15 mintues
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09:38.11Adirellelol, the new cowtip editing stuff is quite ... huge :p
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09:44.55ckknightAdirelle: but easier to work with :-P
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09:56.23CIA-2203nevcairiel * r41385 10MountMe/Core.lua: MountMe - show flight speed in Flight Form/Swift Flight Form
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09:59.04CIA-2203gamefaq * r41386 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
09:59.04CIA-22Babble-2.2:
09:59.04CIA-22- BS: translated Seethe into Sieden in deDE to stop Omen error about missing translation. If it's wrong then change it since there i no reference to find about this Spell in deDE
10:00.00MikkFuck's sake.. I thought I tested all the dewdrop combos in existance
10:03.40ckknightMikk: PitBull's portrait dealy messed up
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10:05.10Mikkthen again, ctrl+fing through the getMethod() and callMethod() calls, I clearly see I was having a bad coding day yesterday
10:05.18Mikkmissed passValue in 2! places
10:05.44Mikkckknight: portrait delay is a .... slider?
10:06.14Mikkor a multitext?
10:06.24ckknighttext w/ table validate
10:06.27Mikkah ok
10:06.32Mikkyeah that'd bork just fine
10:06.32ckknightI believe
10:06.48Mikkvalidate is what i fixed now
10:12.36Mikkand get
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10:12.55Mikkmust be the get called that messed you over then
10:13.02Mikkcall*
10:14.40CIA-2203ckknight * r41387 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix x-offset setter for RIGHT and BOTTOM positions.
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10:19.03DustwhisperWhat's a nice way to check if you are in a party? GetNumPartyMembers > 0 or something?
10:19.53Dhirmadihey folks, any of you available to give me a hadn with GameTooltip and XML Templates?
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10:22.16CIA-2203mikk * r41388 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
10:22.16CIA-22DewdropLib: Fix my borked commit from yesterday. Sigh. I really thought I tested the whole slew of cases...
10:22.16CIA-22- Text with table validate "get" methods will now properly pass passValue
10:22.16CIA-22- Text "validate" methods will now properly pass passValue
10:22.16CIA-22My apologies. Bad coding day yesterday apparently >.<
10:22.48Adirelleckknight: cowtip doesn't like empty line follwing by a text only on right light
10:23.05Adirelle(notice that the tag resolves to empty, lines are not really empty)
10:23.51ckknighthrm...
10:23.59Nemes_dustwhisper: use UnitPlayerOrPetInParty
10:24.27Nemes_UnitInParty is dodgey - returns true if you call it for "player" even if you're not in a party
10:25.18Dustwhisperok cool thanks
10:25.18Adirelleckknight: well... it just doesn't like having the left text empty, that fuck up alignment
10:26.41Dhirmadianyone know, ca you use <scirpts> inside the <FontString> element?
10:27.45Nemes_Dhir... this isn't in answer to your question, but if you need generic tooltip advice, have you looked at cknight's CowTip, TinyTip and others like Gymnast?
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10:29.02DhirmadiNemes: i have not. perhaps you can advise me on which to use best. i an showing the itemlink in a front string andn want to user to see the item details when he does a mouse over.
10:29.24Dhirmadinemes_: which of your proposals would do that best (if i don;t need to fiddle with XML even better) :)
10:29.25Dustwhisperis there any event that happens when all addons are finished loading?
10:29.37Nemes_Dhir: do you have a method to retrieve item details?
10:29.47Dhirmadii have the itemlink info yes
10:30.00Nemes_OK, copy what CowTip does when it is customising the tooltip
10:30.06DhirmadiDust: did you check the events listings on wowwiki?
10:31.02Dhirmadinemes: will it not interfere with the existing XML template?
10:31.11Nemes_use acehooks
10:31.17Nemes_and use safehooks ;-)
10:31.44Nemes_safe hooks will allow the standard UI stuff to execute, then you execute your stuff
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10:33.16CIA-2203ckknight * r41389 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added Realm tag.
10:34.27DhirmadiNemes_: you jsut wetn right over my head :)
10:35.08CIA-2203ckknight * r41390 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - bugfix if you're not watching a faction.
10:35.19Nemes_Dhir: have a look at some other addons, and read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHooks_Examples to see how to hook standard UI stuff without interfering too much with it
10:36.02Dhirmadiand all i wanted to do is display the item stats in a frame :)
10:36.36Nemes_maybe ratingbuster does what you want...
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10:37.28CIA-2203ckknight * r41391 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added alias NameRealm = "[Name][Realm:Prefix(-)]"
10:37.44Dhirmadii have a list of items, showing as a text, each one as it's itemlink  so [hammer of Doom] and all that
10:38.29CIA-2203ckknight * r41392 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - show name and realm, not just name.
10:38.29Dhirmadiit is defined as a fontstring in my XML file. when i mouseover the work i want to display the item information, same as when you do it in a looting windows and all that
10:39.03Nemes_unfortunately you're beyond my level of knowledge now... I'm just suggesting generic methods of finding out the information you are after...
10:40.00Dhirmadigues we're at the same stage then...
10:40.07CIA-2203ckknight * r41393 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - unfinished strings are bad.
10:40.13Dhirmadiunfortunately these days most folks work with the lua based version of frames...
10:40.31Nemes_When I have no idea how to build something, I usually look at similar exisiting code and figure it out from there
10:40.56Dhirmadithat is what i am trying.. unfortunately non available as everyone uses lua based frames these days
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10:43.07ckknighthttp://bash.org/?772559
10:43.39Nemes_I'd laugh if it didn't expose my horridgeekiness
10:44.06ckknighthttp://bash.org/?772439
10:46.13ckknighthttp://bash.org/?772437
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10:46.26Dustwhisperi dont get that joke
10:46.32Dustwhisperprobably cause i think LOTR is utter shit
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10:59.40Dhirmadiposted my question on the forum, perhapssomeone has time to look at it at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6925.0
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11:04.50sbuckknight: "Prefix" Unkown modifier or tag
11:05.52CIA-2203roartindon * r41395 10Assessment/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
11:05.52CIA-22Assessment
11:05.52CIA-22- Removed all of the temporary closures created
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11:14.34FtH|Daemonahmmm ckknight is there a way to access MH/OH weaponspeed and display it on the players pitbull UF?
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11:14.58Nemes_sounds like a job for DogTag
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11:20.40ravagernlAnyone working on cart right now? was thinking of a lock to zone checkbox because it keeps resetting to the zone you enter when zoning
11:21.15ravagernllets say i want to look at steamvaults map but im flying to zang and it changes to zangramash, very annoying
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11:34.49pb_ee1Dhirmadi: You must create your own tooltip and use the tooltip's functions to populate it
11:35.29Dhirmadipb: thanks for the pointer, i;ve no doe this, still the tool tip does not show when i mouseover the text, let me update the post though
11:35.41CIA-2203adirelle * r41399 10ThreatToKTM/ (FuBarPlugin.lua ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc):
11:35.41CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
11:35.41CIA-22- inform player of target setting,
11:35.41CIA-22- fixed a bug when ThreatLib revisions do not display.
11:36.05Dhirmadi(is wowace so slow for everyone? )
11:36.26pb_ee1Dhirmadi: If you want to update the tooltip within the game, then you should try using the "GameTooltip" variable
11:36.45pb_ee1Dunno, though, if it will work perfectly
11:36.55Dhirmadipb_: how exactly do you mean this?
11:37.12pb_ee1GameTooltip is a global variable created by the game itself
11:37.23Dhirmadii don;t want to modify the tooltip. i only want it to show the ifnormation of the item i am hovering over, like i get when i run over the loot in a loot window too
11:37.25pb_ee1It is the tooltip it normally uses
11:37.59pb_ee1Aha
11:38.30pb_ee1You want a tooltip to display when you hover [<text>] ?
11:39.10Dhirmadiyes
11:39.21Dhirmadiand text displays just fine in my frame
11:39.35Dhirmadihttp://ace.pastey.net/63212 is the current XML template
11:39.45Dhirmaditooltip initiated on line 26
11:40.29Dhirmadifontstring at 163 is what i am lookingt o show the loot item information (it contains the itemlink info and displays as [hammer of doom] just fine,
11:40.29pb_ee1If you SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_NONE"), the tooltip will never display on the screen
11:40.36pb_ee1You should try changing the anchor
11:41.05Dhirmadiwhat is your best experience with anchors?
11:41.23pb_ee1none, I only use a tooltip to scan item information for my profiler
11:41.28Dhirmadiahh ok
11:41.32pb_ee1So I use a hidden tooltip, thus ANCHOR_NONE
11:42.23pb_ee1Note for everyone: it _seems_ that <tooltip>:ClearLines() is no more required to have proper tooltips
11:42.39Dhirmadihmm let's see if that did anything
11:44.02Dhirmadiaddved the lua fyunction to thje pastey at http://ace.pastey.net/63223    is that proper?
11:44.42evl59
11:45.55pb_ee1Well, I've seen that SetHyperlink does not always work, but yes, this should be ok
11:46.30Uhurunevcairiel the profiles system for BT3 don't work correctly, if i create two new profiles and change something in one of them it change the other two
11:46.37pb_ee1I know sometimes the tooltip juste does *not* update, and you must use SetIventoryItem, ... (or whatever)
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11:48.43Dhirmadipb: you were right, it shows now. for a brief second... but at least i can seeif showing now... completely out for tormat though but at elast ptogress
11:48.44nevcairielUhuru: i know, but nothing i can do about it right now, its a more complicated issue
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11:52.38Tornhoofanyone ever seen something like this?
11:52.39Tornhoofhttp://i17.tinypic.com/6g2g3n6.jpg
11:53.00Tornhoofdunno which mod caused it but i guess it was pitbull (aligned to the unit frames and disappeared after group switch)
11:53.35Nemes_pitbull did that to me once, briefly, when a party member was added
11:53.49nevcairielheh the black boxes bug
11:53.52Punkie`Tornhoof: Man that UI looks ownage, you don't even get distracted by what's going on as a healer!
11:53.53Nemes_however the gigantic grey (in my case) frame reverted in a second
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11:55.58Dhirmadipb_ee: what would be the purpose of setinvertoryitem?  the item i am looking on is in a loot window
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12:02.37ChompersAntiarc: i had a look for that Emerald font, i can only find a commerical font thats $40 :/
12:02.45Adirellenevcairiel: what's new in BT4 ?
12:02.59Nemes_ooh do tell Nev
12:03.08Adirellenevcairiel: wait... firtly, is there a FAQ/wiki on BT4 ?
12:03.32Nemes_I looked for one... but I found no wishlist, todolist or anything
12:05.57nevcairielAdirelle: its not ready to even talk about it yet
12:06.09Adirellenevcairiel: oki
12:06.26Adirellenevcairiel: any plan to support bar modules ?
12:06.46Nemes_you backported something... so you must have some sort of new featureset...
12:06.59CIA-2203nevcairiel * r41400 10SimpleChatMods/channelnames.lua: SimpleChatMods: adjusted the custom channel regex to work correctly
12:08.22nevcairielAdirelle: what bar modules?
12:09.03Adirellenevcairiel: allowing people to write module that set up the content of a bar
12:09.25Adirellenevcairiel: default module would be "standard action bar"
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12:09.40nevcairielAdirelle: oh .. hmm
12:09.42nevcairieldunno
12:09.50Nemes_sorry for the apparent tarditry, but differences to macros are...?
12:10.16nevcairieli dont want to make it too complicated
12:10.20Adirellethe idea is to let bartender3 handles layout, showing and the like, but have the module tell which action should be put where
12:10.25Adirellenevcairiel: I understand
12:10.34nevcairielbut i guess someone could use my "Bar" class, which i use as a prototype for my ActionBar class
12:10.41nevcairieli could prolly add a better interface
12:11.18Dhirmadierm, folks question. is there a difference between the regular game tooltip and the one created by tinytipp?
12:11.31Adirellethat would be sufficient, I guess, if one can register new bars
12:11.36nevcairielI already have a OOish setup, so i have a Bar class which handles layout et al, then a ActionBar class for ActionBars, and coming will be PetBar class .. StanceBar class
12:12.00MorghusEngineering any fun post-300?
12:12.23Nemes_when I was learning the whole AceOO business, Bartender3 was one of the "stand out examples" of how to use the AceOO extensions
12:12.37Tupsii get "unknown prefix" and then the name of the character in cowtip
12:17.22Tupsickknight : sleeping i guess?
12:17.57Chompersyeah the tag isnt working right
12:18.02CIA-2203pettigrow * r41401 10Omen/localization_frFR.lua: Omen: frFR Update
12:18.22Chomperstry swapping it out for [NameHostile]
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12:22.54Wixickknight: With Cowtip is there a solution to the problem where the name comes up as eg/ Carrex"Prefix" Unknown modifier or tag
12:23.09harl|VOYwtf?
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12:31.34Tupsiwixi already asked, seems not atm
12:31.47Tupsithis went in this night though, was working fine yesterday
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12:33.04Dhirmadiquestion, isn't GameTooltip e global fram which is provided for?
12:33.10what-Khi all i have a question to bigwigs
12:33.41what-Kwhen i download the file from the webpage i have one folder names BigWigs where is the rest
12:33.50[dRaCo]Any ideas why my Ankhtimerfu doesn't update? like, I ankh and it still shows the old ankh count
12:33.52Adirellewould it be weird to declare an addon as load-managed by AddonLoader with condition "always" ? people could then use the AddonLoader override feature to change it
12:33.59what-Ki mean bigwigs_blacktemple and so on
12:34.38AwaaCowtip dont showup in Niagara
12:34.57what-Ktrh have u an idea ?
12:35.30Wixiah ok
12:35.39what-Kmust i start the bat file ?
12:35.44Wixiit seems to be to do with the [NameRealm] tag
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12:42.31CIA-2203pettigrow * r41402 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (11 files in 7 dirs): Threat-1.0: frFR Update
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12:46.36WixiSomeone able to help me with Dog-Tags stuff? I'm a bit new to all this! why does [SmartRace:SmartClass:ClassColor] only show 68
12:46.38Wixioops
12:46.44Wixinot 68, but the Race
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12:58.28Icerothgah, i have foo = "a\n b\n c", how do i get the a, b and c out of it? string.gsub(foo, "(.-)[\n|$], ...) doesn't do it
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13:11.24durcynIceroth: split and chomp =P
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13:12.27Icerothyeah well, wtb those for lua :p
13:13.57Killmoreckknight?
13:14.22[dRaCo](.+)\n (.+)\n (.+) should be match
13:14.32[dRaCo]s/be//
13:15.18Icerotherm, i want X amount of them, X being unknown
13:16.24[dRaCo]does (.+)* work in lua?
13:16.57what-Khttp://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062307151635zs3.jpg
13:17.08what-Kwhy is there a empty line ?
13:17.16what-Kand when i click i i gat an error
13:17.24what-Kmaybe someone can help me
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13:18.56[dRaCo]"there"?
13:22.08pb_ee1http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6996-2.12.html
13:22.19pb_ee1I like the "Latest Changes"
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13:24.24what-K[dRaCo] under Zauberschadentyp anzeigen
13:25.11Killmorehttp://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cowtipii0.jpg
13:25.49Killmorewhy I got "Prefix" Unknown modifier of tag on everyone?
13:28.12Adirelleif something that "
13:28.25Adirelled'oh
13:28.58Adirelleis someone interested in something that handles s/x/y/ in-game like purl does here ?
13:29.02FISKER_Q~seen Kaelten
13:29.10purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: '150-200k'.
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13:29.10nevcairieldoes WAU 1.9 still need SAL or will it detect the libs on its own?
13:29.43FISKER_QI believe that the newest one can detect externals and properly download those addons without embedding
13:31.14durcyn1.9 only pulls in deps with X-Embeds set correctly
13:31.17harldephini'd say, it depends on the add-ons though. not all add-ons are using the same tags in the .toc
13:31.23harldephinyea
13:31.28durcynand it doesn't go into unembed mode unless it finds a directory named !!!StandAloneLibraries
13:32.05durcynso you could put an empty SAL directory with a .svn directory in it, to force it
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13:33.42harldephinoO
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13:34.38Imp4kTIs there any extended readme for DrDamage, I want to know what "Coeffs: 1.219/0.429/0"
13:34.54Imp4kTI want the know what 1.219 and 0 mean, as I know the coeff is 0.429
13:35.02Imp4kTOver Mind Blast that is
13:35.41JoshBorkeare you in shadow form?
13:36.05Imp4kTYes
13:36.19JoshBorkethe coeffs take into account any buffs you have that would modify the damage you do
13:36.38WixiAnyone know how in Dogtags to do If has guild then show text else don't show text
13:36.43JoshBorkeie, drop shadow form and your coeff will drop
13:36.45Imp4kTWhen I take off shadow form it goes to 1.06
13:36.58Imp4kTDoes that mean that because of my talents, the coeff is 1.06?
13:37.03nevcairielprobably
13:37.27Imp4kTAh, no it doesnt
13:37.51Imp4kTIt means the first calculation is 0.429, and I have a 6% dmg talent
13:38.13Imp4kTSo to work out the final dmg they would be multiplied together
13:38.41Imp4kTAnd the final number, the 0, is probably my current +dmg, since I have none :D
13:40.01Imp4kT..thanks
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13:52.44RoartindonAnyone know if Magtheridon adds were nerfed in 2.1.2 any further?
13:53.04RoartindonOur dps seemed ridiculously high on them today compared to previous weeks
13:53.59Tornhoofarena weapons
13:54.30RoartindonTornhoof: Hmm.. we went from 4 channelers dead when mag released last week
13:54.40RoartindonTornhoof: To all 5 dead, and waiting 10 seconds for mag to release this week
13:55.05RoartindonTornhoof: And the only dps that have arena weapons are two rogues
13:55.16Tornhoofdunno
13:55.24Tornhoofdidn't see much difference there
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13:57.05Matrix110We did mag with 12 healers this week because we didnt have dps online was quite funny^^
13:58.32RoartindonMatrix110: 12 healers!
13:58.38RoartindonMatrix110: I don't think we even have 12 guild healers ><
13:59.07Adirellenevcairiel: what should I do in BT3 to have empty buttons hidden ?
13:59.39Adirelleshould I put :Hide() :Show() where there are :Disable() :Enable, or does the bar also have some frame ?
14:06.41nevcairielthe bar frame is click-through
14:06.50nevcairielyou can try hide and show, but it will break in combat :P
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14:10.27FISKER_Qhttp://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ilol'd.JPG
14:10.35Daemonaany1 seen antiarc today?
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14:11.20nevcairieli dont get it FISKER_Q :P
14:12.06Icerothwhat's "or" in lua's pattern matching?
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14:14.20Fisker-liek ZOMG nevcairiel
14:14.25Fisker-i got ze Half-Life 2: Episode 2
14:16.27Imp4kTIts out?
14:16.55kenlyricyou hax!
14:17.07kenlyricgimmegimmegimmeineedineed
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14:17.51Fisker-nah
14:17.56Fisker-someone just found the appid
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14:18.31Imp4kTnewb
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14:19.54BotSlaymanLOOK Who's back!
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14:20.42sag_ich_nichthttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40 well that's interesting.... in before a million commits to the SVN (unless i'm late and that already happened :P)
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14:21.29nevcairielwonder if ag/Saroz/ckk already seen that
14:21.47nevcairieloh well
14:23.03sag_ich_nichtthere also a thread on the official forums
14:23.03sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112673788&sid=1
14:23.07sag_ich_nicht+is
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14:23.56sag_ich_nichtalso explains why i have been lagging like a motherfucker BGs
14:25.22sag_ich_nicht+in
14:25.23sag_ich_nichtgah ^^
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14:27.54BotSlaymananyone knows when ckk comes around?
14:28.53BotSlayman~purl
14:29.14BotSlayman!whaleslap BotSlayman
14:29.41BotSlaymannomore purl? i liked that little buddy
14:30.11sag_ich_nichtuh
14:30.15sag_ich_nichtyou are using the wrong command
14:30.15sag_ich_nichtso
14:30.18sag_ich_nichtit can't work
14:30.35winkillerWAH. I nominate for weirdest addon bug ever: Necrosis, destroying Corrupted Soul SHards from Felwood because they match "soul shard"
14:30.52sag_ich_nichtlol
14:31.14sag_ich_nichtthat' what you get for not using regex(or using a bad regex)
14:31.52winkillermore not knwing the game
14:31.58CodayusI believe SCT will announce that you've acquired a soul shard whenever you pick up a Corrupted Soul Shard as well.
14:32.00winkillerthere is only [Soul Shard]
14:32.20winkilleryes, bit that's no harm, Codayus
14:32.28Codayus*nod*
14:32.31winkillerjust a bit of spam
14:32.44CodayusSame bug.  Although you'd *hope* that people would be extra careful coding any function which deletes items.
14:32.58winkillernecrosis is a mess
14:33.09Fisker-DELETE YOUR WTF FOLDER OMG
14:33.20sag_ich_nicht...
14:33.24sag_ich_nichtFisker- wait wut
14:33.39Fisker-It's somewhat annoying getting that solution to every problem in the game
14:34.23winkillertoo bad necronomicon isnt' under active development :(
14:35.00ThraeWTF my WTF folder is just WTF!
14:35.13sag_ich_nichtstop saying Warcraft Text File
14:35.18sag_ich_nichtD:
14:35.25Fisker-wth
14:35.34winkillerbetter than naming a group "W... Task Force"
14:35.35winkilleralso WTF
14:35.44ThraeFisker-: Stop saying Warcraft Text Handler
14:35.55winkillerFFS?
14:36.24winkillerwell, OMG is the Object Management Group, fair enough
14:36.26Dhirmadianyone know if there is a limit to GetGuildInfo(unitrecord.unitid) ?
14:37.10ThraeDhirmadi: What do you mean, "limit"?
14:37.10Dhirmadias i am in a raid, getting the info for a raid3 unit, but it's not returning it's guild name, ( and he is in my guild) :)
14:37.21Fisker-i just got crashed
14:37.22Dhirmadirange for example
14:37.24Fisker-Error #132
14:37.27Fisker-mean gm's
14:38.05DhirmadiThrae: know anything about that?
14:38.13ThraeDhirmadi: Hmm, sounds like there is a range on it.
14:38.44ThraeI've only dealt with tooltip range ;)
14:40.29ChompersWTF folder is warcraft text folder?
14:40.30Chomperswow
14:40.40Fisker-no
14:40.43Fisker-Warcraft Text File
14:41.08Chompersoh
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14:42.50BotSlaymanthere u r!
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14:45.34Dustwhisperi need to learn this UI via XML shizzle
14:47.03nevcairielsomeone should really bump the topic so that slouken finds it again .. unregistering an event off the header is really no good thing :P
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14:50.53Dhirmadidustwhisper: actually i done that and now see that most folks create their interface using the LUA appraoch
14:50.53krkaDhirmadi: Lua is not an acronym.
14:51.18DhirmadiLUA is not you are right, just capslocked it for him to see
14:51.20Dustwhispergeneral programmingprinciples dictate that strings and settings etc should not be hardcoded
14:51.21Fisker-Writing in all caps doesn't mean it is :P
14:51.24Dustwhisperguess some dont apply that to scripting
14:51.26Dustwhispersince it's not compiled
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14:52.11JaxonDustwhisper: thats great and everything, but since you are able to dynamically create and destroy UI frames, lots of well written addons do that instead of statically creating them.
14:54.47CryectKalman|: So... why is everyone stealing your avatars? :_p
14:56.27CryectJaxon: we can't destroy UI frames :-p
14:56.28Dustwhisperso it's a memory vs cpu cycles
14:56.31Dustwhisperbattle
14:56.37Cryectno, not really
14:56.43CryectLua frames are easier to design
14:56.47CryectI can create loops etc
14:56.51Cryectto create the frames
14:56.56sag_ich_nichthuh
14:56.59sag_ich_nichtnew WoW launcher
14:57.00sag_ich_nichtwth
14:57.02JaxonCryect: well, nevermind then, I don't actually write addons, I just remember when it was implmented.
14:57.32CryectJaxon: Yeah, if we want to "destroy" we have to store it in tables to be reused latter
14:58.35JaxonI've got the time to write an addon, but I can't think of something I need that isn't already done.
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15:00.08BankZJaxon: I cant fing a good raid cooldown addon
15:00.14BankZdont like oRA2
15:00.20BankZ*find
15:01.09JaxonBankZ: remove all the non cooldown modules for oRA2?  Whats wrong with that display, simple, color coded.  What about it did you want changed.
15:01.49Icerothsomething that would show important debuffs in some condensed and clear way would really rock.. like fears, stuns, disorients etc.. trying to track those down from all of the debuffs isn't really fast (to see if it's worth popping the trinket or not)
15:02.04dodgizzlaJaxon: I'd say it only supports like 3 cooldowns.. which is not enough :D
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15:02.26dodgizzlaBut there is RaidInfo, which not enough in my raid use, so I can't say how that performs :>
15:02.28JaxonBecause it was written to be compatible with CTRA and CTRA only supported three cooldowns.
15:02.47dodgizzlaJaxon: Yeah I know, but you asked what was wrong and IMHO that's wrong :D
15:03.06dodgizzlaBecause honestly.. nobody uses CTRA anymore and CTRA2 is like years away
15:03.22dodgizzlaAnd even then.. wtf be backwards compatible with some ancient crap?
15:03.32dodgizzlaWe need innovation! Vive la Revolution!
15:03.41dodgizzlaDown with the authority!
15:04.46BankZJaxon: well couple problems with it, it tracks very few things
15:05.02BankZJaxon: and it always shows the "cool down" label
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15:05.11abyssichateChompers: are you there?
15:05.33BankZJaxon: so even if there are no active cooldowns you gota look at the label
15:06.01dodgizzlaBankZ: Try http://www.wowace.com/wiki/RaidInfo
15:06.21BankZdodgizzla: ive tried that and couldnt get it to work
15:06.21dodgizzlaAs I said.. I tried to test it, but you need your raid to use it, too
15:06.31BankZdodgizzla: it never detected any cooldowns
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15:06.49dodgizzlaBankZ: Yeah because it only catches cooldowns that are broadcasted by other people using that addon
15:07.03BankZdodgizzla: yeah, thats what I figured
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15:07.10dodgizzlaSoooo, if you're the only one with it.. it'll do zilch :D
15:07.13BankZdodgizzla: and no one runs it :(
15:07.23dodgizzlaYeah, sucks big time
15:07.36dodgizzlaI suppose there is no reliable way to figure out who burns what cooldown
15:07.39BankZit would be cool if it could pick things up from CTRA and oRA2
15:07.50BankZand just whatever you are in range of
15:07.51dodgizzlaYeah, but then again you could use those
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15:08.06dodgizzlaBankZ: That's impossible. Because you don't get any information who used what ability
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15:08.29dodgizzlaYou only get "Bleh gains Soulstone Resurrection" and for Ankh/Rebirth there is even no combat log message afaik
15:08.31sbubah this is retarted
15:08.43sbui need 2 arena1 pieces and 2 arena2 pieces
15:08.49sbufor +70 resilience bonus
15:08.49sbu:/
15:08.52BankZhmmm, that sucks
15:08.53dodgizzlasbu: True. Whatever it is. Retardedness everywhere!
15:09.13sbuits 2 set bonus on each set
15:09.15dodgizzlasbu: Didn't they remove Season 1 gear? I could not find it on the vendor :\ Because I had that brilliant plan too
15:09.20sbuno
15:09.27dodgizzlaHm, I need to look again then
15:09.42dodgizzlaIs Season 1 gear only in Area 52? Because I only looked in Stormwind
15:09.45sbuseason 1 is even cheaper now
15:09.47sbuyup, a52
15:09.50dodgizzladamned.
15:09.57sbustorm-where? :/
15:10.14dodgizzlaYeah that place you bring Onyxia's and Nefarian's head
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15:19.08RoartindonBankZ: Check the cooldown tooltip in http://www.lim.com.au/wow/screenshot.jpg (left hand side of the screen)
15:21.07sbuohhh
15:21.08dodgizzlaRoartindon: That's neat. What is it :D
15:21.09sbuRoartindon: wtb
15:21.23ravagernlomg sheesh these gargantuan infernals suck
15:21.31ravagernlstupid meteor
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15:22.07sag_ich_nicht...
15:22.08RoartindonIt's FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu - it's been on SVN for half a year :)
15:22.17RoartindonRunning as a detached tooltip
15:23.01RoartindonInfo at: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2224.0
15:23.07RoartindonWas written even  before oRA2 had it's own cooldown module
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15:24.22dodgizzlaI see. Will try :D
15:24.23BankZFuBar_oRA2CooldownFu: doesnt work well
15:24.40dodgizzlaOn another note.. is XRS usable in 5-man groups nowadays?
15:24.50BankZits kinda worthless
15:25.19Thraedodgizzla: You need a reminder of how many people are dead, offline, or away in a 5-man group? :D
15:25.38Cryectof course!
15:25.46sag_ich_nichtheh
15:25.51dodgizzlaThrae: No I need a mashyclicky button to spam Power Word Fortitude and Prayer of Shadow Protection
15:25.53CryectIts hard using party bars to figure out mana also
15:25.54sag_ich_nichti just figured out a way how you can pass outside informations into WoW.
15:25.55dodgizzla:>
15:25.55ThraeAll unit frames, even PerfectRaid, can handle that already ;)
15:26.02Thraedodgizzla: Ohh...SmartBuff
15:26.03RoartindonBankZ: Well, each to their own; I'
15:26.19dodgizzlaThrae: Eh, I use RABuffs, but only because it's usable outside raids :>
15:26.19RoartindonI've been using it ever sincce I wrote it, as a raid leader, to monitor all my raid cooldowns
15:26.34Thraedodgizzla: SmartBuff is usuable anytime, even solo
15:26.42dodgizzlaFWIW.. I use Grid as unit frames, so I don't see mana :>
15:26.48dodgizzlaBut then again, I don't care about mana :>
15:26.56ThraePR doesn't show mana by default either
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15:27.23sag_ich_nichtWoW provides the client time to the interface, if you could somehow figure out a way to encode information into that by manipulating the local system clock.... :O
15:27.43BankZdodgizzla: to me it seemed to miss more than the oRA2 and lost its cookies a lot
15:27.50clad|sleepsag_ich_nicht: yeah, you could do a character at a time
15:27.55hypetechOn my Omen, the threat number overlaps the %, how can I spread it out?
15:27.56clad|sleepbut synchronizing that woudl be... a nightmare
15:28.07Roartindondodgizzla: If you do use the cooldownfu, make sure you read that forum first, it won't work if you don't make a modification to ora2
15:28.22dodgizzlaRoartindon: I saw that, thanks. But I don't use oRA anymore
15:28.27dodgizzlaI figured I did not need it :D
15:28.44Thraeclad|sleep: Couldn't you syncronize it using GetTime(), which calls GetTickCount() in the Win32 API?
15:29.01dodgizzlaReady Checks and MT are already implemented and as I don't do much raidleading anymore I could care less about the rest
15:29.02sag_ich_nichtalso a keybind that's catched outside of WoW too
15:29.03clad|sleepin theory yes
15:29.11clad|sleepbut that's no more ToS friendly than the other methods we have
15:29.13Roartindondodgizzla: I get all my raiders to install it, so I can check their durability, check when I need to conjure more water, check on various reagents/etc.
15:29.32clad|sleepif you really want to get data into wow
15:29.33sag_ich_nichtclad|sleep: i didn't say it's useful. ;O
15:29.36clad|sleepthere are easier ways to do it
15:29.46dodgizzlaRoartindon: Not questioning it's very useful, I just don't need it anymore :D
15:29.48BankZ<Roartindon>: what mods do you need to do to oRA2?
15:30.01RoartindonBankZ: Check the forum link above
15:30.07sag_ich_nichtalso clad|sleep if you are already here
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15:30.16sag_ich_nichtdid you see the thread about the raid lockups? :O
15:30.25cladhairewhich one of many
15:30.28Saroznevcairiel <3
15:30.35sag_ich_nichtcladhaire the one that figures out the cause.
15:30.48cladhairedo you have a link?
15:30.54sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112673788&sid=1
15:30.54cladhairenvm in the ui forums
15:30.57WixiWhy is [IsUnit#player(mouseovertarget)?Text(<<You>>):Red] [SmartClass#mouseovertarget?ClassColor#mouseovertarget!Name#mouseovertarget] Not showing up targets in the tooltip?
15:30.58sag_ich_nichthttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40
15:31.13cladhairelooking at it thanks.
15:32.24sag_ich_nichtnp
15:32.54BankZhmmm, I dont see oRA2CooldownFu on WAU anymore
15:33.53JaxonFuBar_oRA2CooldownFu maybe?
15:34.01BankZwhy dont they just improve the cooldowns in oRA :)
15:34.10BankZdont see that either, unless I am blind
15:34.24[Ammo]because we're compatible with CTRA that's why
15:34.32[Ammo]and it only tracks the long important cooldowns
15:34.36cladhairesag_ich_nicht: I don't classify that as a blizzard "bug"
15:34.47cladhairethere's no reason for the frames to be registered for UNIT_NAME_UPDATE
15:35.03Cryectyawn always fun when I can tell cia is down based on commit times
15:35.20JoshBorkeCryect: put recount on WoWI :-D
15:35.33Cryectits not ready
15:35.35Dhirmadigentlemen, on numbers, rounding how do i get a 2.23 from a 2.22777777777777 ?
15:35.42BankZ`@[Ammo]: It seems to only track SS, BR and the shammy pop
15:35.52JoshBorkeDhirmadi: string.format("%2.2f", number) ?
15:35.59sag_ich_nichtcladhaire: to quote from the thread: " BTW, this isn't really a bug. it's more of horribly inefficient code that is doing too much updates for no particular reason that leads to the lockups. Before patch 2.1, the secureheadertemplate only listened to RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE so there was no lockup issue.  
15:35.59sag_ich_nichtWhy are so many UNIT_NAME_UPDATE events being fired now anyway?"
15:36.00BankZ`@[Ammo]: Could you make it so you could hide the "cooldown label" ?
15:36.10CryectI want to finish the config menu & customizability, fix syncing, and polish up add tooltips to missing buttons
15:36.11JoshBorkeluabot> string.format("%2.2f", 2.23333333)
15:36.12cladhairesag_ich_nicht: Thats not the point,
15:36.18cladhairesag_ich_nicht: Why are the frames listening to that event?
15:36.26DhirmadiJoshBorke: will that not only cut off the last bit?
15:36.29Cryectonce those are addressed I will post it up on wowi and curse
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15:36.52JoshBorkecladhaire: because no one bothered to not listen to the event :-D
15:37.00Cryectbecause it worked in the past!
15:37.01Cryect:-p
15:37.03hypetechwhy does sw_stats use 4MB of resources as soon as I log into the game and before any data :(
15:37.12Roartindonhypetech: Stored data probably
15:37.16Cryecthypetech: who knows
15:37.18Cryecthe said before data
15:37.22cladhaireI'm honestly not trolling, but why is listening to that event necessary?
15:37.33cladhairesounds more like legacy pre 2.0 code, that just got carried through
15:37.35hypetechRoartindon: no, it's nuked
15:37.47Cryectdo a garbage collect and check then
15:37.59hypetechI have
15:38.00Cryectrecall though it has to have all its own code for everythign so can't use libraries
15:38.09Lywellyn|Awayrogues use focus, don't they?
15:38.11[Ammo]BankZ: it tracks SS, DI, battle ress and shammy ress because those are worth tracking :P
15:38.17vrakLywellyn|Away: no, energy
15:38.19Roartindonhypetech: It's probably what's necessary.. if you add ace2 core + parser + all the other little bits that ace2 damage monitoring addons use + the actual addon, it's probably 4MB
15:38.23Lywellyn|Awaythen who uses focus?
15:38.28vrakLywellyn|Away: hunter pets
15:38.44Lywellyn|Awayoh.  okay.  Trying to set up CowTip the way I like it.
15:39.07Lywellyn|AwayAnd looking at the DogTag documentation, it lists mana, rage, energy and focus, and I got confused. :p
15:39.16BankZ[Ammo]: its never showed DI to me, odd
15:39.33RoartindonBankZ: It'll only show if your pallies are running ora2
15:39.36vrakwell, that's all 4 secondary bars i believe, so now you know their differences
15:39.43[Ammo]BankZ: DI is an oRA2 only cooldown
15:39.48[Ammo]CTRA does not support that one
15:39.53BankZahhh
15:40.13BankZmake it so I can hide the label?  same with rez monitor?
15:40.14CryectWish you would detect the event messages for them and just assume worst case for those sometime though
15:40.28[Ammo]BankZ: not yet, but I could probably add, lock options
15:40.29[Ammo]or something
15:40.35Cryectwhich will get overwritten if they have ora2 the second the event arrives
15:40.50BankZ[Ammo]: that would be cool, cuz its fugly :/
15:41.30[Ammo]shrug
15:42.10sag_ich_nicht[17:36] <@cladhaire> sag_ich_nicht: Why are the frames listening to that event? <--i didn't code it, i don't know. even if they weren't, the question for the reason of firing so many UNIT_NAME_UPATEs stands. i mean, theoretically speaking, that could have been discovered by itself as well without any raidframes trigging the investigation of the issue :P
15:42.24BankZAnyone know what DreamChat is?
15:42.27[Ammo]everyone has their own opinion bankz and if I'd give in to every single request it would get bloated fast
15:43.05RoartindonBankZ: If it doesn't meet your visual or technical requirements, you are of course, free to write your own addon that does.
15:44.00BankZIm not trashing oRA2
15:44.00Sarozcladhaire, ups, did you delete your pots?
15:44.11BankZits 1000 times better than CTRA
15:44.13cladhaireSaroz: yeah, I'm trying to grok the issue more/better
15:44.22Sarozcladhaire, k, will delete mine aswell
15:44.31BankZbut having a label on the screen for no reason is kinda silly
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15:45.46[Ammo]it's there because I like it there
15:45.55[Ammo]and since I wrote the damn thing I can do as I please
15:46.01Mellow_:D
15:46.18BankZwow, defensive?, lol
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15:46.56BankZguess you dont like it getting called fugly
15:47.00BankZlol, sorry
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15:48.04[Ammo]I'm not defensive
15:48.28[Ammo]I'm just stating a fact
15:48.28[Ammo]I even said I'll look into a locking option that hides it
15:49.16BankZsweet
15:50.01Cryectyou used just need to be used to [Ammo]'s personality
15:50.51cladhairehow large of a raid do I need to reproduce this lockup issue?
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15:52.02sag_ich_nichtcladhaire: just join a random AV.
15:52.11cladhaireokaym, thanks.
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15:52.38sag_ich_nichtiirc it doesn't happen with perfectraid
15:53.02cladhaireyeah that's what we're trying to figure out
15:53.18cladhairecause, the unregistering UNIT_NAME_UPDATE will break any reaid header using namelists
15:53.20cladhairethat's why its there.
15:53.27cladhairethe UNIT_NAME_UPDATE firing so much is, yes a problem
15:53.39cladhairebut i'd like to understand downstream from SecureGroupHeader_Update() what causes this issue.
15:55.21sag_ich_nichtactually i'll go into AV and see if i still get lockups now that i have the x-perl version with the workaround in
15:55.47cladhaireyeah i'm testing now
15:55.56vrakanyone got any good recommendations for a combatlog ?
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15:56.16cladhairei'm even enabling cpu profiling
15:56.18Jaxonvrak: simplecombatlog ?
15:56.24cladhaireand still having no issues.
15:56.46BankZSimpleCombatLog is nice
15:57.12Mellow_+1
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15:57.35cladhairesag_ich_nicht: Saroz: We can talk here ( i was talking to sz in pms )
15:57.43cladhairesag_ich_nicht: Saroz says this isn't 100% reproducable
15:57.50cladhairei.e. it doesn't happen on every single AV?
15:58.10JaxonYou know what Quartz needs.
15:58.21Roartindoncladhaire: Alt-f4 in an AV, and log back in; that often did it for me
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15:58.24JaxonA "safe to cast steady shot" marker on the autoshot timer.
15:58.31Roartindoncladhaire: See whether that generates the problem
15:58.33Pkekyohow to share Cartographer_Mining mapnotes?
15:58.43cladhairegreat, thanks.
15:59.01cladhairehopefully i can get to the bottom of htis
15:59.03Roartindoncladhaire: But it's one of those annoyingly hard to reproduce errors.. always shows up when you don't want it to, but never when you're ready todebug
15:59.30cladhaireIve just had not even one perfectraid user complain of this issue
15:59.36cladhaireand I still have a few :P
15:59.48Saroztring ALT+F4 now
15:59.49cladhairedoesn't prove anything, but makes me want to understand it.
16:00.00Sarozno problem with alt+F4 here
16:00.03cladhairealt+f4 didn't do it.
16:00.15Roartindoncladhaire: maybe perfectraid doesn't trip the bug :)
16:00.25cladhaireRoartindon: thats what we're trying to figure out, what i do differently
16:00.27Roartindoncladhaire: for me, grid seemed to do it; disabling that allowed me to log back in
16:00.40cladhaireanyone have a rev of pitbull or grid that _has_ this problem
16:00.44cladhairei know its hack-fixed now.
16:00.47Tornhoofhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcDshWmhF4A
16:00.49Roartindonthe latest grid has it
16:00.55cladhaireorly?
16:01.04cladhaireyou sure its the latest?
16:01.08Roartindonwell, Grid from 1 week ago, and I don't think there have been updates in the mean time
16:01.16RoartindonI had to disable it to log back into my magtheridon raid last week
16:01.32dodgizzlaI use the latest version of Grid and PitBull (but not the raid frames of PitBull); yesterday when I switched vom Eye of the Storm to Arathi Basin I had a lockup and had to kill WoW via task manager :D
16:01.39Roartindoncladhaire: Checking svn logs now
16:01.44cladhaireme too
16:01.48cladhaireseven alt-f4s
16:01.49cladhaireno issues.
16:01.52dodgizzlaI had some lookups some weeks ago, too. But other than that, no problemos
16:01.52Roartindoncladhaire: But I'm reasoanbly sure the problematic version h asn't had any revisions
16:02.19KarlThePaganI've been experiencing lockups... I heard ag mention something in chat, but didn't catch the details
16:02.20cladhairenope looks like it hasn't.
16:02.23KarlThePaganI think there's an agUF branch
16:02.46Roartindoncladhaire: embeds/toc changes, but no real code changes it seems
16:02.55cladhairechecking it out now to test
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16:03.04sag_ich_nichti think RDX might also trip this bug
16:03.11sag_ich_nichtgoing to AV now to test :O
16:04.08KarlThePagancladhaire, sag_ich_nicht if you have a battleground autojoiner, disable it
16:04.13cladhairei dont
16:04.16cladhairedoing it all manually
16:04.22cladhairei run with little addos, actuaqlly
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16:04.29KarlThePaganyea I got around it usually by autojoining ;)
16:04.44KarlThePaganand i have my raidleader kick me if I disconnect during a raid
16:04.54sag_ich_nicht[18:04] <+KarlThePagan> cladhaire, sag_ich_nicht if you have a battleground autojoiner, disable it <--i don't have one either :O
16:04.59KarlThePagankk
16:05.06Chompersi'm using CowTip and my HP tag keeps flickering when targeting npcs, any ideas?
16:05.09Chompers[FractionalHP:Short:HPColor] [PercentMP:Percent:Paren]
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16:05.30sag_ich_nichtoh that's great
16:05.36cladhairehehe i can't get the issue at all
16:05.36sag_ich_nichtaverage wait: 56 minutes
16:05.37cladhaireit seems.
16:05.39dodgizzlaTornhoof: Funny thing :D
16:05.44ultimate-`is there is a prob w/ 1.9?
16:05.48sag_ich_nichti'll join EotS as well
16:05.55BankZWhich mail addons do you guys like?
16:06.03dodgizzlaBankZ: Postal:D
16:06.08Pkekyoanyone able to tell me how to share Cartographer_Mining mapnotes?
16:06.50cladhairemost recent pitbull rev causing the issue perhaps?
16:07.15BankZfrom my testing postal and postman seem to be a nice combo
16:07.38Sarozeasiest thing is prob. a diff from 2.0 to 2.1 in the headers
16:08.23cladhairethe header changed 100% in 2.0 to 2.1
16:08.38cladhaireas documented.
16:08.40cladhairethe header was consolidated
16:08.42cladhaireand i dont think the issue lies there
16:08.44cladhairei think the issue lies in something addons are doing in response to _something_
16:08.55SarozI don't agree
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16:09.00cladhairei dont think slouken coded if AddOnName == "PerfectRaid" then don't crash =)
16:09.09Sarozthe problem is generic enough for it to be in the headers itself
16:09.25cladhaire_could_ be yes,
16:09.27Stephmwcladhaire: maybe it's just a partial name match on 'perfect*'
16:09.30cladhairelikely from where I'm sitting?  no
16:09.36cladhairethat's why i want to figure it out.
16:09.37Stephmwcladhaire: nothing perfect could ever go bad :)
16:09.42sag_ich_nichtmhm
16:09.43cladhaireheh
16:09.44Stephmwcladhaire: so... rename everything else?
16:09.52sag_ich_nichtlol
16:09.56sag_ich_nichtx-perl's bugfix bugs RDX
16:09.59Sarozwhere is the perfectraid code?
16:10.09cladhaireSaroz: what do you mean?
16:10.14Sarozyou got an SVN somewhere?
16:10.21KarlThePaganlet me see if I can repro it in ab and i'll report my addons list
16:10.45sag_ich_nichti'll have to revert to 2.2.8 because of this
16:10.45cladhaireyeah
16:10.46sag_ich_nicht-.-
16:10.51cladhairewow-perfectraid.googlecode.com/svn/trunk
16:11.12sag_ich_nichtThis application has encountered a critical error:
16:11.12sag_ich_nichtERROR #134 (0x85100086) Fatal Condition
16:11.12sag_ich_nichtProgram:C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe
16:11.12sag_ich_nichtFile:.\CGxDeviceD3d\CGxD3dDevice.cpp
16:11.12sag_ich_nichtLine:1630
16:11.13sag_ich_nichtDriver internal error on resource lock.  Check AGP aperture.
16:11.15sag_ich_nichtgod
16:11.17sag_ich_nichtAGAIN
16:11.21sag_ich_nichti wish they would fix this
16:11.24cladhairewhats that one?
16:11.30sag_ich_nichtbug with nvidia video cards
16:11.34cladhaireboo
16:11.35sag_ich_nichtblizzard hasn't admitted it yet
16:11.43sag_ich_nichtbut it's in since 2.1
16:11.58Cryectwhat bug is this?
16:12.00sag_ich_nichthappens with PCI-Express videocards from nvidia
16:12.06sag_ich_nichtcrash on alt + tab
16:12.09CryectI've got an nvidia pci-e card and never crashes :-p
16:12.15TainMe too also.
16:12.22sag_ich_nichtCryect then you are lucky :P
16:12.24Sarozcladhaire, you do frame:SetAttribute("template", "SecureUnitButtonTemplate")
16:12.34SarozI use sRaidFrameUnitSecure, which inherits SecureUnitButtonTemplate
16:12.43Sarozhttp://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.xml
16:12.50cladhaireokay, its the same template
16:12.54sag_ich_nichtor you don't alt + tab a lot
16:13.01cladhairedo you override any of the template specific functions?
16:13.04vrakmine never crashes on alt-tabbing either, but then i run in windowed mode anyway
16:13.21sag_ich_nichthappens with fullscreen mode .P
16:13.22sag_ich_nicht*:P
16:13.40TainNope I think it's just you, sag_ich_nicht.
16:13.40cladhaireSaroz: nope, you only override onclick
16:13.43vrakalt-tabbing with fullscreen is too painful, tbh
16:13.53TainI alt-tab with full screen all the time.
16:13.54sag_ich_nichtTain: nope, because there are other people reporting it
16:13.55cladhaireSaroz: that shouldn't make a bit of difference, at all
16:14.01cladhaireSaroz: What does your OAC handler look like?
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16:14.12SarozOAC?
16:14.23Sarozah
16:14.43cladhairejust sets a dirty flag to update the frame on next update?
16:14.44Sarozhttp://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua -> sRaidFrames_OnAttributeChanged
16:14.46cladhaireor do i read that wrong.
16:14.50Sarozyea
16:14.58cladhaireokay, that makes sense.
16:15.02cladhairei actually do more accounting there
16:15.16KazieHi guys.. i've just installed Buffalo2 ... but i keep getting an error when i try to open the config.. it returns this error message "...AddOns\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0:402: You cannot open a waterfall without registering it first" ... Do anyone of you know what the problem is?
16:15.30Sarozcould be sRaidFrames_InitUnitFrame, though, since it's on login where frames are created and modded
16:16.20SarozTo be honest, I'm not even sure I have the problem with sRF, it could just aswell be aguf and/or pitbull.. people without sRF have reported the problem aswell
16:16.24Sarozit's a bastard
16:16.38cladhaireyeah thats waht i'm wondering
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16:16.48cladhairei _have_ to believe i would have gotten a report
16:16.57cladhaireif anything else were to break, I'd hear about it in 2 seconds.
16:17.21Kazieanyone? :o
16:18.16sag_ich_nichtreverted to x-perl 2.2.8, let's see if it trips the bug and doesn't break my RDX :O
16:18.53Sarozgah SVN is teh slow
16:19.10Daemonaghosh... http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40
16:20.00KaeltenI blame the martians
16:20.54sag_ich_nichtmhm, actually seems to be a bug in RDX not x-perl breaking it
16:21.39[Ammo]the SVN is fine Saroz
16:21.46[Ammo]it's the CIA post-commit hook you nub
16:21.55Saroz!!!
16:22.05[Ammo]so you're better off kicking CIA
16:22.24Fisker-oh hi
16:22.44[Ammo]BankZ: your locking options are in, enjoy or gtfo
16:22.51sedatedChipmunkcan't; he isn't in the channel
16:22.59Cryecthard to kick a server thats down :-p
16:23.05Sarozyea :(
16:23.12sag_ich_nichtcan't repro anymore
16:23.16sag_ich_nichti HAD that bug happen though
16:23.18sag_ich_nicht>_<
16:23.23Fisker-[Ammo]
16:23.37Fisker-I Want SW_Stats but renamed to Violation
16:23.46Fisker-I got it or gtfo?
16:26.19KarlThePaganhmm, very brief lag for me on ab join, but not like what happens in KZ sometimes
16:26.20Kaeltenok svn should be faster
16:27.27CryectFisker-: I think you could fork SW_Stats to that in about 1 minute
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16:31.09[Ammo]Kaelten: the svn is soo fast you can't connect :p
16:31.20Kaeltenhrm?
16:31.24[Ammo]it's like 'what no data? disconnect'
16:31.32[Ammo]getting connect refused
16:31.58Kaeltenhrm?
16:32.06Kaeltensince I made that statement?
16:32.08[Ammo]works again
16:32.13nevcairiellol
16:32.15[Ammo]yeah just before i made my statment
16:32.21[Ammo]but it works again now
16:32.38[Ammo]might have been a fluke in my network, but everything else was still working
16:33.38Kaeltenya commits work for me
16:33.49[Ammo]yaeh it worked again when I said works again
16:33.53[Ammo]it didn't work for 2 mins
16:33.55[Ammo]but meh
16:34.01[Ammo]might ahve been something upstream from my ISP
16:34.07Kaeltenlo
16:34.09Kaeltenl
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16:39.47Cryectheh Kaelten any chance of setting a script up to check if the cia server is up and if its not swapping the config and vice versa
16:40.12sag_ich_nichtlol
16:40.14sag_ich_nichtthat's interesting
16:40.48sag_ich_nichthttp://pastey.net/63700-2mw2
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16:41.54KaeltenCryect: I'm more likey to create my own announce bot
16:42.26sag_ich_nichttrh
16:43.19Cryectthen we wouldn't have the nifty featuers of the cia server that I bet no one uses :-p
16:48.54kebinusanhmm
16:49.07kebinusangetdkp is making my eyes bleed
16:49.39Chompersdoes anyone use EPGP or have any experiences with it?
16:50.24kebinusanchompers I played with it a little bit, but my guild is too full of people who like to kick/gquit for comedy at times
16:50.46kebinusanit didnt have good support for alts/people not in raid last time I tried it too
16:51.58Chompersfair enough
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16:52.26Chomperswe're hoping it's better than dkp with people hording it all the time
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16:53.16kebinusanhe doesnt seem to understand localization (string.lower(msg) == string.lower(GDKP_Search_schwer_eng)) or (string.lower(msg) == string.lower(GDKP_Search_schwer_de))
16:53.51kebinusanand everything thing he has split out in a localization file has _de or _eng on the end
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16:54.45kebinusanChompers we do effective DKP, where I just take someones 30 day attendance percentage and multiply it by their DKP total, thats what they have to spend... it doesnt totally solve hording but they have to show up to spend their points
16:55.50sbukebinusan: epgp does :p
16:56.42hyperChipmunkgood lord O_o
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17:04.00sag_ich_nicht...
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17:11.45Kaeltenwho wrote garbagefu?
17:12.05ravagernl~garbagefu
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17:12.54Gnarfoz## Author: wmrojer
17:14.02abyssichateDoes the fact that I don't make SCL track raid events affect Violation's data gathering precision?
17:14.17Gnarfozshouldn't
17:14.45Gnarfozeasy way to be sure: disable all events
17:14.46Gnarfoz:D
17:19.03hyperChipmunkno, the events are sent whether you listen to them or not
17:19.27binderanyone know what happened to the omen thread on the EJ forums?
17:20.10pb_ee1Anyone have a link to a nice BLP > PNG converter that works with _all_ icons?
17:20.46abyssichatehyperChipmunk: so, not listening to raid events will not lower the memory usage of SCL will it?
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17:24.02Gnarfozif there are no leaks, why would listening to them even increase the usage?
17:25.18abyssichateyeah, it should not
17:29.20KemayoI <3 GarbageFu.
17:29.28Scrapy_Hi. I have a little question about TinyTip.
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17:29.47hyperChipmunkabyssichate: depends on what you do with 'em
17:30.38KemayoScrapy_: You should ask you question, then.
17:30.47Scrapy_i see on the description (files.wowace.com):  "Default is stuck-to-mouse anchoring. Also ToT info and more." It's possible to see the ToT on Tooltip ?
17:31.05Scrapy_With TinyTip ?
17:31.09KemayoIt is, yes.
17:31.19KemayoIt might require TinyTipExtras, I can't remember.
17:31.36Scrapy_Oh okay, i go try TinyTipExtras
17:31.41ThraeIt requires TinyTipExtras. With the new version, it will require TinyTipModules (essentially TinyTipExtras).
17:32.31KemayoThrae: How's progress going on the new version -- I'm giving the svn one a try, but I miss my ToT. :)
17:33.09ThraeKemayo: I hope to have the database and slash commands done by today, but right now I'm sidetracked by comparing the mortality rates of Drunk Driving vs Murder vs Terrorism
17:33.14JoshBorkeCryect: recount doesn't seem to be obeying my bar texture option
17:33.22KemayoThrae: Sounds... fun?
17:33.41kenlyricdon't let the terrorists drink and drive.
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17:33.54ThraeI'm into some political stuff. I hate how people tote terrorism as some type of huge deal, when even just drunk driving is a far, far bigger deal.
17:34.08sag_ich_nichtmhm
17:34.36sag_ich_nichtis there anything like theorycraft that's being actually maintained? :O
17:35.19ThorgardDrDamage.. for casters. ;P
17:35.29sag_ich_nichtThorgard i'm a paladin. :P
17:35.40ThorgardSo you're a caster. Good. DrDamage. ;P{
17:35.47sag_ich_nichtThorgard: depends :P
17:35.58sag_ich_nicht0/8/53 :P
17:37.21sag_ich_nichtso if it's e.g. not going to display the damage crusader strike is going to do it's not really useful :P
17:38.36sag_ich_nichtalso have a warrior & a hunter twink
17:38.37sag_ich_nicht><
17:39.42[DiE]Celebyou can get excel charts for theorycrafting =)
17:40.14sag_ich_nicht[DiE]Celeb that doesn't work ingame with buffs you currently have(or debuffs) though
17:40.57[DiE]Celebbut what use does that number ingame have... unless your a caster it's gonna be off by targets mitigation anyways
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17:41.26[DiE]Celebprob why DrDamage only do magic dmg
17:41.28sag_ich_nicht[19:40] <[DiE]Celeb> but what use does that number ingame have... unless your a caster it's gonna be off by targets mitigation anyways <--i'm a ret pala. it's off for SOME things, but not for others. :P
17:41.46[DiE]Celebthe magic dmg stuff should be in drdamage tho
17:42.04[DiE]Celebatleast i think my pala got values on them
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17:42.20[DiE]Celebhave'nt used it in a while tho
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17:45.09sag_ich_nichtheh
17:46.00KemayoI need to stop causing segfaults in my irc client.
17:46.19HjalteDoes anyone know what the respawn timer is in normal lvl 70 instances?
17:46.33[Ammo]2-4 hourr
17:46.42sag_ich_nichti was wondering that yesterday too.
17:46.46[Ammo]for trash that is
17:47.08Hjalte[Ammo]: Isn't trash the only thing that respawns? :)
17:53.07durcyntrash flips in 30 minutes
17:53.19durcynif it's empty, that is
17:53.50Gnarfoz~seen ckknight
17:54.17purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 8m 4s ago, saying: 'http://bash.org/?772437'.
17:54.17sag_ich_nichtlol.
17:54.17sag_ich_nichtDrDamage uses +hit for +spell hit it seems
17:54.29sag_ich_nichtwhich is completely wrong D:
17:54.45Cryecthaha wth
17:58.46HjalteDoes anyone know the trash mob respawn timer for Shattered Halls specifically? I'm using Incubator, but it doesnt seem to have any timers
17:58.57sbuheroic or normal?
17:59.07Hjaltenormal
17:59.10sbuno idea :o
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17:59.53CryectAnyone know what the spell name for the debuff that Freezing Trap applies?
18:00.16trh_magic
18:00.25trh_stupid warlock hounds can eat it :(
18:00.30Cryect... heh I know its not called magic :-p
18:00.39trh_i think it is
18:00.55CryectI don't care the dispell type I want the Name :-p
18:01.15trh_ah... wait ;)
18:01.23trh_gotta login
18:02.10CryectSeems its Freezing Trap Effect  
18:02.24Cryectstrange wasn't showing up when I searched by Freezing Trap >_>
18:02.48trh_yep
18:02.52trh_it's Freezing Trap Effect
18:02.57CryectOh damn I forgot to press the more button on thott hence thats why it didn't show up
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18:03.23trh_use wowhead :)
18:03.28trh_it's better than thott anyway :)
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18:04.17ckknighthey all
18:04.22Killmorehey ckknight
18:04.23sag_ich_nichthello ckknight
18:04.38KillmoreI got this "Prefix" Unknown modifier of tag on everyone
18:04.40Killmorehttp://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cowtipii0.jpg
18:04.42sag_ich_nichtcladhaire maybe now you'll find the cause :P
18:04.55cladhaire?
18:05.21hyperChipmunksup loser
18:06.48ThorgardWhat's everyone's UI look like currently? Hit me with some screenshots.
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18:07.15sag_ich_nichthttp://i8.tinypic.com/5xgkt3k.jpg
18:07.38HjalteDoes anyone else have a problem with parts of their WoW window becoming all gray, like the bottom half, when they exit an instance?
18:07.39cynyr_hmm i can't seem to get omen to show my pets threat while not in a party with any other players.
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18:08.45abyssichatememory usage of threat-1.0 has gone boom, 5MiB and increasing
18:08.50abyssichateafter we leave the raid, it's fine :E
18:10.14trh_hey ck
18:10.27trh_ckknight: is it possible that parser-3.0 has some problems with the frFR version of the client?
18:10.43trh_ckknight: getting reports like: http://pix.nofrag.com/e2/c2/f54a320b54cefe7ee7cccf2d8d7a.html
18:10.54trh_ckknight: where the frame basically just uses the name parser gives
18:11.08trh_ckknight: no swstats_fixlogstrings
18:12.36HjalteWhat's the best addon to give other players a rating or a warning to yourself that you should never party with them again... Playerrating?
18:13.09trh_Hjalte: i guess it's called brain ;)
18:13.22trh_Hjalte: and communication ;)
18:13.32Hjaltetrh_, i can't remember every player i group with.
18:13.57ThraeAlright. I have computed that the average American, if they join the fight in Iraq, has a 1539% -less- chance of dying by the hands of another human being.
18:14.03trh_Hjalte: for your personal use you can use vanaskos' hatelist :)
18:14.12Fisker-sag_ich_nicht i can see why you don't show your memory usage
18:14.19sag_ich_nichtFisker- huh?
18:14.26sag_ich_nicht121 MB atm
18:14.27sag_ich_nichtso?
18:14.47trh_sag_ich_nicht: yikes.. swstats =)
18:15.02sag_ich_nichtFisker- and i don't use performancefu atm because for some unexplainable reason it's causing 1 frame lags
18:15.32sag_ich_nichtso i just activate it if i think something is going crazy :P
18:15.42Fisker-everything is crazy in that shot
18:16.09Fisker-my computer almost made a nuclear cascade failure (techno babble ftw) and destroyed europe
18:16.26sag_ich_nichtthat's because i had alphamap turned on :P
18:16.45sag_ich_nichtand there were to many things in fubar
18:16.51cynyr_hmm my ept shows up in the test bars for omen, but not after i do a aggro reset
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18:18.20sag_ich_nicht[20:14] <trh_> sag_ich_nicht: yikes.. swstats =) <--huh? :O
18:18.36sag_ich_nichti haven't found a proper replacement yet, where's the problem? :P
18:18.51trh_sag_ich_nicht: hehe.. i just don't like it... maybe violation, recap or recount :)
18:19.30sag_ich_nichttrh_ any reason why those would be better? :P
18:19.32sag_ich_nichti mean
18:19.36Sarozthreat-1.0, line 856: error("Assertation failed: Attempt to publish _GLOBAL_ as target for %s, %s", k, UnitClass("player"))
18:19.37sag_ich_nichtif i was using damage meters
18:19.39SarozINVALID SYNTAX
18:19.39Sarozfix
18:19.57Sarozgetting spammed here
18:19.57trh_sag_ich_nicht: i like the per-spell-display feature of recap
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18:22.50sag_ich_nichti just looked at recap, has it even been updated recently? >.>
18:24.32trh_sag_ich_nicht: r39257 | dotted | 2007-06-09 10:49:27 -0400 (Sat, 09 Jun 2007) | 1 line
18:24.35trh_sag_ich_nicht: last time ;)
18:24.37ckknighttrh_: no idea what that report means
18:24.44sag_ich_nichti see
18:24.44sag_ich_nicht:O
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18:25.13trh_ckknight: me neither.. guess i'll have to get a french client to test it =)
18:25.33SettlerHow I can contact with developer of "Omen" addon?
18:25.41ckknightI'm tempted to fuck rophy and just fix the strings...
18:25.49sag_ich_nichtSettler: you wait until he shows up :P
18:25.49ckknightSettler: that'd be Antiarc
18:25.51trh_Settler: ask for Antiar1
18:25.54sag_ich_nicht(which reminds me, where is Antiarc)
18:26.06sag_ich_nichttrh_: is that the same person as Antiarc? :P
18:26.07hyperChipmunkpoor rophy =\
18:26.12Settlerok. I'm try with Antiar1 =)
18:26.15Chompersckknight!
18:26.16trh_sag_ich_nicht: i guess it's his idle nick ;)
18:26.23trh_Settler: i think he sleeps or isn't around
18:26.35trh_Settler: he's usually named antiarc or antiarc|work
18:27.15Chomperswhen i target mobs, my mana tags keep jumping up and down
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18:27.42Chompersit also does it when a player doesn't have a guild
18:27.59abyssichateyes
18:28.01abyssichateI had the same
18:28.10abyssichateit happens when hte left tag is empty and the right one is not
18:28.34abyssichateI also have issues with background colouring, guildies are not always detected, sometimes they are coloured as "others"
18:28.36SettlerAnd in what time he is usual appears?
18:29.08trh_us-time evening/night
18:29.17SettlerGMT?
18:29.27sag_ich_nichtany page for recount avaiable? :O
18:29.58trh_no, but it uses GraphLib :)
18:30.02trh_so it might be nice :)
18:30.43kebinusansag_ich_nicht: http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=13567 works pretty well
18:32.31trh_omg... i think i have to install it, make some screenshots and brag with it ;)
18:32.38cynyr_okay i really should update my addons before i think they are broken....
18:32.39trh_(in our guilds boards ;)
18:33.10hyperChipmunkckknight: your NameRealm tag is mussed up
18:33.37ckknightI fixed it
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18:34.12Icerothckknight, is there a reason pitbull doesn't show my combo points to target when i'm not in cat form?
18:34.12Daemonawow.... keeping 17 copies of your "addons" folder does really slow down starting wow? wouldnt expect that ^^ http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=13575
18:34.27ckknightIceroth: you don't have the module enabled?
18:34.36AnduinLotharin the ace options table what's the difference between and different usages of the hidden and disabled values. for clarification....
18:34.50Icerothi do, they show up when i'm in cat but when i shift out, they disappear and reappear again when i'm back in cat
18:36.30AnduinLotharI assume that in drop down menus both are evaluated by not showing the option... rather than showing a disabled option grey'd out
18:36.32kebinusanDaemona: interesting
18:36.53Daemonai call it stupid :X
18:37.19NightHawkTheSaneDaemona: nah, its justifiable given the way they sandbox the lua environment
18:37.20Gnarfozbah
18:37.22hyperChipmunki'm pretty sure disabled means greyed-out
18:37.35GnarfozCowTip creates blank lines for some of my tags
18:37.58AnduinLotharhyperChipmunk: I've never seen any grey'd out options before tho...
18:37.59Daemonano, i wanted to say its stupid to keep 17 redundant copies of your addon folders cause you fear 1 bad addon when updating ;)
18:38.17NightHawkTheSaneDaemona: oh, yeah, that's stupid. :P
18:38.17hyperChipmunki have
18:38.19Gnarfoz[Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Dead?Gray][Guild:Angle] < I guess it's because of [Dead?Gray], because if I take that out, no blank line on corpses
18:38.22hyperChipmunkand they've got to come from somewhere =P
18:38.23AnduinLothareg?
18:38.25NightHawkTheSaneEspecially on a mac.
18:38.33Gnarfozbut [Guild?Dead?Gray:Angle] doesn't work -.-
18:38.41NightHawkTheSaneHe's better off just zipping up the AddOns dir instead
18:38.44hyperChipmunkfubar Remove Panel when you only have one panel
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18:38.58AnduinLothark thx
18:39.03Mudkipzhttp://www.tyrsa.de/LOL.jpg
18:39.03Mudkipzrofl
18:39.18AnduinLotharlol
18:39.24trh_NightHawkTheSane: he could just copy his Interface folder to be named Interface_<date> and voila, fixed
18:39.42hyperChipmunkyou know, we really ought to make a style guide for ace options
18:39.45Gnarfozduh... [Guild:StatusColor:Angle] :D
18:39.53AnduinLotharyes, yes you should
18:39.58NightHawkTheSanetrh_: not if wow parses -everythign inside /path/to/World of Warcraft/, unless he copies it outside that path
18:40.10NightHawkTheSanes/thign/thing-/
18:40.29hyperChipmunklike a chart:  Option - Commandline Representation - Dropdown Representation - GUI Representation
18:40.49trh_NightHawkTheSane: in that case he'd additionally have to move the folder outside of wow
18:40.50hyperChipmunksince every part of it is designed to be supported be each of those three
18:41.07hyperChipmunkdocumenting HOW it should be supported would probably be a good thing
18:41.35hyperChipmunki'ma do that after my midsummer quests =P
18:41.37NightHawkTheSanetrh_: well yeah, obviously that's the best solution. But if he just zips the folder, even if he leaves it in there, wow is only parsing the single zip, and not the huge nested folders structure.
18:42.28NightHawkTheSanetrh_: And given that "create archive" is a default and easily accessible contextual menu option in the finder, there's no excuse for just blindly hitting command-d and copying an entire directory structure just for a backup.
18:43.04Chompersckknight: do you want me to test anything for this 'shaking' bug?
18:43.17ckknightshaking?
18:43.26AnduinLotharhyperChipmunk: is there some reason why 'get' wouldn't be evaluated if an otpion was disabled?
18:43.40Daemonackknight love your avatar :)
18:43.43Chompersif a line has no text to the left, the tag in the right shakes about
18:43.50abyssichateckknight: yes, if in a line the left tag is empty while the right one is not, there is some "shake"
18:43.58trh_NightHawkTheSane: i'd think the compressing itself might take alot of time if he has alot of addons
18:43.58Chompersmaybe 'jumps about' it more descriptive
18:44.00ckknightoh...yea
18:44.08ckknightdaemona: :-)
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18:44.19Daemonackknight on the other hand, can you access weapon speed (mh/oh) via dogtag? ;)
18:44.31ckknightdaemona: no, that's not coded in
18:44.34ckknightit could be.
18:44.52trh_Mudkipz: lol.. good luck for that GM that the name is edited out ;)
18:44.54Daemonaprtyprtyplx?
18:45.03hyperChipmunkAnduinLothar: hm
18:45.03trh_Mudkipz: guess he'd got a blizzard-kick otherwise ;)
18:45.22NightHawkTheSanetrh_: *shrug* my addons folder is ~41mb and it doesn't take me more than a minute or two to zip it. if I don't want to sit there, I get up and do something else for those two minutes. SO unless he's running with like a 100+MB addons folder, i doubt time's a real issue ;)
18:46.03trh_NightHawkTheSane: still, copying them takes only like 10 seconds :)
18:46.07hyperChipmunkthe only place where i think that you'd see the value of a disabled option would be like in a GUI listbox
18:46.23chrisp_-does anyone here use wow bench at all?
18:46.28AnduinLotharckknight: in FuBarPlugin lockTooltip.get errors if self.frame is undefined or not registered with tablet.  Should that function ever be called if lockTooltip.disabled() == true?
18:46.48AnduinLotharhyperChipmunk: checkbox?
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18:47.09hyperChipmunkthat might pose some ambiguity for the user..."this option is disabled, but it's set to something; how do i change it if it's disabled? I don't want that value."
18:47.47ckknightAnduinLothar: yes, it should be called, I believe
18:48.02AnduinLotharbut it errors
18:48.04hyperChipmunkdisabled listboxes with wrong values tend to frustrate me, even if I'm not using the option.  OCD-sorta thing
18:48.09ckknighthrm
18:48.15GnarfozCryect: any chance for Recount to not re-show on login if it wasn't shown on logout? :)
18:49.02AnduinLotharso when using the ace options table one should assume that disabled options are not set?
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18:49.26AnduinLotharand thus not call the 'get' function?
18:49.42MorghusKCI2's out ? Oo
18:49.58AnduinLotharor is there the possibility that get() == true even when disabled() == true
18:50.08abyssichateckknight: do you know anything about guild backgrounds not being coloured correctly'
18:50.15ckknightno
18:50.51ckknightAnduinLothar: that possibility is there.
18:51.01Slaymanhow far away from RC is cowtip?
18:51.15AnduinLotharok, well if that's the case then you should probably fix FuBar plugin
18:51.20ckknightSlayman: usable now
18:51.25abyssichateckknight: some of them are being coloured with the same colour as "Others" (background)
18:51.29Daemona|-- THAT FAR --|
18:51.31Daemona? ;)
18:51.35ckknightroughly
18:51.45ckknightabyssichate: hrm...
18:51.55ckknightabyssichate: does their guild show up on hover, though?
18:52.22abyssichateyes
18:52.24abyssichateit does
18:52.54ckknighthrm
18:52.57ckknightcrazy, then
18:54.56abyssichatehttp://wallen.ngi.it/guildok.jpg = correct colouring | http://wallen.ngi.it/guildnok.jpg = not correct colouring, it follows Other colour
18:55.14ckknightbah
18:56.09Lywellyn|AwayI made the color of the character's name the hostility color.
18:56.44LywellynOne day, knowing DogTag coding will be second nature to me. XD
18:57.15Daemonahmmm someone fubared craftlist2
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18:57.36AnduinLotharckknight:  it's an easy fix.  replace return Tablet:IsLocked(self.frame) with if (self.frame) then return Tablet:IsLocked(self.frame) end
18:57.39Daemonasome hook error -> duscinnect
18:58.00ckknightAnduinLothar: self.frame should always exist, though...
18:58.04NightHawkTheSanetrh_: so, i just tested it (which actually took a long time, because I had some rogue changelogs from files.wowace that -still- have 000 permissions set, so i can't do anything with them. ><) copying vs zipping my 41mb addons file took comparable ammounts of time, copying was faster, but only by about 5-6 seconds :P
18:58.14ckknightAnduinLothar: also, parntheses are icky
18:58.15AnduinLotharit doesn't for BigWigs
18:58.39AnduinLotharand it doesn't in dr damage
18:59.29hyperChipmunk"if (self.frame) then"
19:00.19AnduinLotharparses to the same byte code and it's easier to read
19:00.40AnduinLotharif you dont liek um, dont use um
19:01.18hyperChipmunkone of the things i love about lua is it reads nicely; I'll disagree with you about the easier-to-read bit
19:02.13ckknightthe overuse of parentheses can prevent important use of them from popping out at you
19:02.21hyperChipmunkif used minimally, parens are a great way to mark "here is a function call"
19:02.33sag_ich_nichtwasn't there an addon for showing a gigantic grid over everything so you could place your addons precicly?
19:02.48sag_ich_nichts/addons/frames/
19:02.49hyperChipmunkSnapToGrid?
19:02.52AnduinLotharclad made a stapto or something
19:03.08cladhairenah, just stickyframes
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19:04.02abyssichateckknight: I've noticed that the frame tooltip sometimes doesn't go away after you move your cursor away from the unit frame, it still shows up unless you don't select something else
19:04.15ckknighthrm
19:04.27Daemonasag_ich_nicht its called "align" wowi i think
19:04.33abyssichateI haven't manage to reproduce it when I wanted it to, it looks random
19:04.50Daemonahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7231-Align.html
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19:05.05abyssichateIt doesn't matter where the frame tooltip is attached too either
19:05.06sag_ich_nichtthanks.
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19:07.08trh_Cryect: in "activity" my pet is shown as "1e-018 (100%)" i don't think anyone needs that exact values ;)
19:07.18kergothhehe
19:07.20trh_Cryect: (in recount :)
19:07.28zacckknight: to add onto abyssichate, I have it happen 100% of the time.
19:07.39ckknightk.
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19:10.27Ominousevening all
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19:12.58ckknighthey ominous
19:13.05Ominoushow are you ckknight?
19:13.15ckknightmeh
19:13.16ckknightfine
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19:15.50abyssichateckknight: this is what I meant with the shake you get whenever the left tag returns an empty string: http://wallen.ngi.it/shake.jpg
19:15.58ckknightoh, I already fixed that
19:16.01abyssichateoh
19:16.03ckknightCIA must not be working
19:16.09ckknightyea, no CIA in the room
19:16.09abyssichateokei, I am raiding so I didn't really notice
19:18.30ckknightjust make sure to update CowTip and DogTag
19:19.09nevcairielckknight: did you read the last posts in that thread? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824.40 .. about a possible temp solution for the lockup issue
19:19.58nevcairielbasicly it says to unregister UNIT_NAME_UPDATE on the headers
19:20.00ckknightoh, nevcairiel, I already fixed the lockup issues in PitBull
19:20.05ckknightlike... a while ago
19:20.23ckknightbasically, it waits a few seconds to create anything (unless entering combat)
19:20.31ckknightand then creates them
19:20.42ckknightalso destroys on PLW and recreates a few seconds after PEW
19:20.46ckknightthat seems to handle most things.
19:21.01nevcairielwell dunno, that fix sounds better then just delaying everything :P
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19:21.18ckknightdoes seem alright...
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19:23.40nevcairielplus i would have frames again after login in in combat =D
19:24.36trh_i wonder how blizzard can argue with Q/A
19:25.05trh_they must be apes sitting at computers, otherwise you can't explain errors like that non-showing-petactionbar-in-combat
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19:29.11ckknightokay, when do I reenable UNIT_NAME_UPDATE?
19:29.17ckknightnever says that
19:29.29nevcairielnever
19:29.33nevcairielits not needed
19:30.16nevcairielexcept when some hunter decides to name his pet
19:30.31nevcairielbut w/e ^^
19:30.33ckknighthrm
19:30.38ckknightalright then
19:31.07Arrowmaster`there are mobs that rename themselves
19:31.23nevcairielyeah, but target frame has no raidgroupheader
19:31.25nevcairielits a unitbutton
19:31.48nevcairieland mobs wont generally end up in your group =P
19:32.35ThraeI'd just make sure you always pass something to your use of UnitName, like UKNOWNBEING (yes, it's spelled this way)
19:33.03Thraes/your use/a function using UnitName/
19:33.15ckknightwell, the name stuff is handled by DogTag anyway for PitBull
19:33.26ckknightand that's bucketed, so it checks UNIT_NAME_UPDATE lazily
19:33.29ThraeIncluding DogTag's usage ;)
19:33.31ckknightso no problem for me
19:33.44ckknightactually it names them according to what unit they are
19:33.51ckknighte.g. raid5 => "Raid member #5"
19:33.59ckknightif the unit doesn't exist
19:34.27ThraeSeems overkill even for a slow server, adding more localization
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19:34.54Chompersckknight; are the tags "Profession1", "Profession2" and "InInstance" possible?
19:35.16abyssichateAre the raid icons supported by the way? I didn't really check
19:35.42Trancerit's a pitty you can't assist by raid icon
19:35.44Chompersso profs could be shown or have tags hidden while in an instance
19:36.06ThraeTrancer: People that use raid icons in macros should be setting MT and MA in the same macro
19:36.07abyssichateit's a pity you can't identify mobs with the same name
19:36.29sag_ich_nichtis there a way to remove the green/red coloring when moving the bars in bartender temporarily?
19:36.44Chomperscould hide the guild of the targeted person
19:36.53sag_ich_nichtit's annoying when aranging bars that overlap each other and have reduced padding
19:37.01Chomperswhile in an instance, if that makes sense
19:37.15ThraeI'd be cool if everyone in a 5-man group could assign raid targets...is that possible?
19:37.27TrancerThrae: that means one needs to grab a different MA constantly
19:37.35TrancerThrae: yeah, there is an addon for it
19:37.40Saroznevcairiel, doesnt ora2 need the UngisterEvent aswell? for MT frames
19:37.42harl|WoW*grr* which add-on's that again deactivating my hunter's aspect of the cheetah ?
19:37.54NightHawkTheSaneThrae: not by default, but with addon-whisper-comm-magic, yeah
19:37.56nevcairielSaroz: yeah true, but its only one header .. oh well .. /me adds it
19:38.01ThraeTrancer: If there's no built-in usage, that'd require addon-to-addon communication, which sucks
19:38.09TrancerThrae: MarkMyWords
19:38.14TrancerThrae: is what it's called
19:38.22TrancerThrae: and yes, it sucks
19:38.25Saroznevcairiel, mm, but many use it, so it might be ora2 causing it :)
19:38.32harl|WoWwhen combat starts, i don't want it to deactivate my aspect at will
19:38.51ThraeIn a Raid, many more people can set Raid Targets, right?
19:38.56TrancerThrae: all I would really like was a /tar or whatever by raid icon
19:39.10Trancerit can be so frigging hard to get the right target (if you have multiple.. focus left out etc.)
19:39.16Finckknight: mind if I put a check in for a nil value in combatText.lua?
19:39.18Finckknight: http://fin.pastey.net/
19:39.18NightHawkTheSaneThrae: anyone with assist can,iirc.
19:39.23TrancerThrae: whoever is promoted can
19:39.23Finerr
19:39.27Ominous___Fin: !!!
19:39.28kenlyricTrancer: especially since you can't target through walls anymore.
19:39.29hyperChipmunkharl|WoW: i don't think you can remove buffs from an addon; check your macros for /cancelaura
19:39.36Trancerkenlyric: indeed, that change is so annoying
19:39.36sag_ich_nichtor a way to make the barsize change if you change the padding :O
19:39.37Finhttp://fin.pastey.net/63959
19:39.39Finduh
19:39.39ckknightFin: that link does nothing for me
19:39.42ckknight:-P
19:39.44kenlyricpicking up ghosts in karazhan is freaking annoying.
19:39.44FinOminous___: I've been waiting for you
19:39.47Trancerkenlyric: if you are nightelf or human or so .. the SW bank is just horrible :p
19:39.48Finckknight: bah :)
19:39.51Ominous___Fin: instance?
19:39.54ckknightah, sure, Fin
19:39.55MentalPower|WorkROFL: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Comments-from-a-Madman.aspx
19:39.57FinOminous___: yeah :)
19:39.57Tranceryou need to pan your camera to target and gossip the banker
19:40.02harl|WoWhyperChipmunk: i've never used anything like /cancelaura. i know that it's an add-on.
19:40.06Finckknight: great, thanks
19:40.06AnduinLotharyes you can stil cancil buffs without input afaik
19:40.13Ominous___brb
19:40.16AnduinLotharjust cant cast them
19:40.26NightHawkTheSaneMentalPower|Work: i saw that, that was beautiful. :)
19:40.29kenlyricTrancer: I never thought about that being the cause of my annoyance at banks :)
19:40.39hyperChipmunkthen you need to reconsider your choice of addons =x
19:40.52harl|WoWi know that it's an ace-add-on, too.
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19:41.02hyperChipmunkBuffProtectorGnome?
19:41.12sag_ich_nichtoh and chosing the color of the out of range indicator would be nice too :O
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19:42.31hyperChipmunkthen some ball-kicking is in order
19:42.36TrancerMentalPower|Work: geez!
19:42.42TrancerMentalPower|Work: that's a nice piece ;-)
19:43.00MentalPower|Workhehe
19:43.02TrancerI still like the name " the daily wtf"  more than this one ><
19:43.15NightHawkTheSaneAnyone know what the maximum number of characters/bytes/whatever you can pass in a single parameter via POST is?
19:43.26NightHawkTheSaneTrancer: yeah. i'm sad that they changed it
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19:43.59nevcairielSaroz: there, agUF and oRA2 got the patch
19:44.06Saroznice
19:44.26nevcairieli didnt have the bug before, so if anyone had it, please try and see if the lockups are gone
19:44.34TrancerNightHawkTheSane: it varies per webserver
19:44.39mitch0night: depends on server. I don't think there's a protocol set limit
19:44.49NightHawkTheSaneokay
19:46.17trh_time to rewrite list synchronizing... :/
19:47.18TrancerNightHawkTheSane: looks like apache is on 4 meg, .NET is as well afaik
19:47.23ravagernlI
19:47.47ravagernlI've heard of a addon to sync threath 1.0 with ktm, what its called?
19:47.51NightHawkTheSaneTrancer: yeah, I figured if there wasn't a protocol set limit, it'd be fairly sizeable. Probably way more than i'll actually need. :P
19:47.59ckknightravagernl: inside Threat-1.0 now.
19:48.37ravagernlreally, because I don't see my tanks threath while he he claims he has ktm
19:48.42Keiasquick CowTip question
19:48.54KeiasIn Line Texts, what are the two seperate columns for?
19:48.55ravagernls/he he/he/
19:48.56TrancerNightHawkTheSane: it's not that flexible btw, IIS can have it set with metabase afaik, apache .. not sure, I believe it was hardcoded
19:49.14Chompersleft/right side of tooltip
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19:49.47KeiasMakes sense, thanks
19:52.10ckknightokay, I committed a revision to PitBull that makes clusters immediately and doesn't destroy on PEW/PLW
19:52.18ckknightplease test for lockups/crashes/etc
19:53.49sbuhmm Cryect: ping
19:55.37ravagernlBut I probably haven older revision of violation/threath 1.0
19:55.55ravagernls/haven/have an/
19:56.20Trancerhhmhmh... the font in the status box of wowaceupdater got changed, looks horrible now :/
19:57.19ravagernlchange to trebuchet ms!
19:57.20Trancerhmm, unhandled exceptions
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19:57.47TrancerKaelten: ping
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19:57.55abyssichateAntiarc: hi!
19:57.58AntiarcYo
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19:58.19hyperChipmunkyou suck
19:58.25[Liquidor]Any GUI tools besides Dew? Kinda need something more than just a tooltip.
19:58.33hyperChipmunkwaterfall
19:58.35hyperChipmunktablet
19:58.36ZealotOnAStickwaterfall.
19:58.57abyssichateI'd like to report something :s, few hours ago, we were raiding SSC: once we reached morogrim, threat-1.0 started to generate a lot of "traffic", everyone in the raid experienced really low framerate (like if pc was memory-swapping)
19:58.58[Liquidor]Yarr thank j00
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19:59.14abyssichateas soon as you left the raid, it'd be ok, the second you joined it again, it was turned bad
19:59.27AntiarcHrm. Were you in combat?
19:59.29abyssichatehttp://wallen.ngi.it/misc/threat.jpg
19:59.29abyssichatenop
19:59.46abyssichateI just relogged there, in 2 minutes threat-1.0 was going literally crazy
20:00.02abyssichatebefore I relogged, it reached 10MiB
20:00.04Punkie`ouch
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20:00.18ckknightAntiarc: I should do another audit, methinks
20:00.21Fisker-i lol'd
20:00.26Antiarcabyssichate: I'm hoping this is related to the mystery Ace library increasing something
20:00.28abyssichatewe had to disable every addon using threat: cowtip, pitbull, violation, omen
20:00.31Fisker-keys for Quake Wars is going for up to 250$ on ebay
20:00.32AntiarcBut it may be Threat.
20:00.36Punkie`I'm telling Kenco !
20:00.38Punkie`:D
20:00.39Fisker-they're giving out 60k keys :D
20:00.39Antiarc:O
20:00.43Fisker-btw Punkie` i won
20:00.52abyssichateI am pretty sure it is Threat, once I disabled it, everything was running fine
20:00.52Antiarcckknight: Audit away
20:00.56Punkie`nice, what happened then?
20:00.59ckknightAntiarc: possibly check if new() is called more often than del
20:01.03AntiarcRight
20:01.07ckknightAntiarc: I gotta clean my room first...
20:01.07ckknightgah
20:01.10Fisker-Some members has already shown signs of "shit sucks"
20:01.15ckknightkeep getting distracted
20:01.15AntiarcIt may be the KTM stuff that was split out last night
20:01.19Trancercovered in pizza boxes ckknight? :p
20:01.31[Liquidor]How does it look like with Waterfall?
20:01.39[Liquidor]And is it just the opts.table that's needed? :O
20:02.14ckknightTrancer: no, I'm not fat
20:02.15durcyn[Liquidor]: you using bigwigs?
20:02.17abyssichateIt seemed fine before reaching Morogrim though
20:02.28Trancerckknight: hmm, they should make a low fat pizza
20:02.29durcyn[Liquidor]: shift-click it for an example waterfall.
20:02.31abyssichatesomeone mindvisioned Leo and Karathress - if that matters anything
20:02.32[Liquidor]durcyn: PvP
20:02.48mitch0ckk: is there a toggle function for various frames in pitbull? specifically, something like ToggleRaid()
20:02.53[Liquidor]I'll install bigwigs just to check it out then
20:02.56sbuabyssichate: hmm - mind vision can resist... bad idea :o
20:03.02sbuand then the mob aggros you ;p
20:03.04abyssichatetell that to our priests :x
20:03.09SarozI wish someone would explain this del() new() to me :|
20:04.05harl|WoWhm hm
20:04.41Antiarcabyssichate: It shouldn't matter, no
20:04.50Antiarcabyssichate: How up to date was everyone?
20:05.43Antiarcabyssichate: And it'd been fine up to that point?
20:05.50[Liquidor]durcyn: Oh that's the one okay. Although I've always thought of that gui to be fugly :/
20:05.52Trancerhmm, one thing about threat, I am not sure if ti changed recently.. when someone comes online with a more recent version than you have, you get a notice... that's all dandy and useful
20:06.02Trancerhowever, if many people get online with a diff version you get 1238012 notices
20:06.11Trancerwould be better if it was just show once and not again
20:06.12AntiarcYou get a notice? Where?
20:06.32AntiarcOmen displays a little string on the frame; Threat doesn't do any kind of notices
20:06.34TrancerYou get a notice like "Threat-1.0 is version xxxx but version xxxxx is released, please update"
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20:06.42AntiarcAre you using Violation or something?
20:06.47TrancerNope, just Omen + Threat
20:06.54AntiarcHrm. Lemme look into it.
20:06.59Trancerand ThreatToKTM in fact
20:07.05abyssichateSome of us were using old revisions but even after we updated, the issue persisted
20:07.05AntiarcAha, that's probably it.
20:07.13Trancerbut afaik it showed before I added that
20:07.14Trancerlet me grep
20:07.29abyssichateIt was fine up to that point, yes, suddenly everybody started laggings, few even disconnected
20:07.31AntiarcTrancer: You don't need ThreatToKTM anymore - Omen has the option to enable KTM broadcasting in Threat itself now.
20:07.39abyssichateand then the bad framerate fact started
20:07.39ckknightmitch0: you go to the menu and disable it
20:07.46Trancerah, great
20:08.00sbuAntiarc: but it is disabled by default?
20:08.04abyssichateas I said, disabling just threat-1.0 made the trick
20:08.04mitch0ckk: I know that. but I'd like a keybinding to toggle raid
20:08.09Antiarcsbu: It comes toggled on my default in Omen
20:08.13sbumhh
20:08.15Antiarcon by*
20:08.21AntiarcIt's off by default in ThreatLib
20:08.24mitch0if there's a toggle function, I can create a macro for it and bind that
20:08.36mitch0or I'll create a bindings.xml
20:08.43AdirelleAntiarc, Trancer: you may want TTK for setting master target (tho /run AceLibrary('ThreatLib'):SetKLHTMMasterTarget() should do the trick :p)
20:08.53abyssichateI couldn't test much of it either since we had to get the raid going :s
20:08.53sbunot sure if thats a good idea - i wont ever get ppl to switch over if they can see me in KTM again :p
20:09.09Antiarcabyssichate: How long had you been in the raid, and was there any event - people joining, etc - that seemed to trigger it?
20:09.31ckknightmitch0: PitBull:ChangeHidden("raid", false)
20:09.44AntiarcAdirelle: I'll see about adding a button to Omen
20:09.49ckknightsbu: off by default
20:09.57AdirelleAntiarc: rip off what's done in TTK
20:09.59abyssichatewe had been in raid for about one hour and there were no recent events like joining/leaving - we swapped one player about 20 minutes before reaching morogrim where the pain started
20:10.07mitch0ckk: but that'll always "show" it
20:10.08AntiarcHm. Okay.
20:10.23Antiarcabyssichate: If you want, install the ViewAddonMessages AddOn. That'll show you addon traffic and should reveal if Threat's going crazy with comm messages
20:10.26ckknightmitch0: PitBull:ChangeHidden("raid", true)
20:10.29AntiarcI'll look into it and see what I can find.
20:10.53mitch0ckk: would you be so kind as to add a ToggleHidden() aboe that? :)
20:10.53TrancerAntiarc: I think it's this one:
20:10.53abyssichateI'll do that if I see that happening again
20:10.53TrancerThreatLib:TriggerEvent("Threat_OutOfDateNotice", MINOR_VERSION, latestSeenRevision, latestSeenSender)
20:11.36ckknightmitch0: PitBull:ChangeHidden("raid") - just committed for that
20:11.51AdirelleTrancer: ThreatToKTM catchs this and issues the notice you've seen
20:11.54AntiarcTrancer: Yeah, that's the event, but doesn't priny anything
20:12.06AdirelleTrancer: does it do it more than one time ?
20:12.13Adirelle(it shouldn't :/)
20:12.18mitch0checking
20:12.18AntiarcOff to my raid testing environment...
20:12.22Antiarc...ALTERAC VALLEY! :D
20:12.25TrancerAdirelle: yeah it did
20:12.34TrancerAdirelle: but I didn't update for two days, so it might be fixed/changed
20:12.47AdirelleTrancer: I meant in a row, with the same revision number ?
20:12.51Tranceryes
20:13.00TrancerI got it once some guy got on with a newer version
20:13.09Trancerthen someone else with another version popped on and it showed again
20:13.55mitch0uhm. should have updated only pitbull...
20:14.30hyperChipmunkckknight: Beast Lore makes CowTip cry
20:14.36TrancerAdirelle: I will install threatoktm and keep an eye on it (And not update it for 2 days or so..) to see if the problem shows up
20:14.56ckknighthyperChipmunk: how so?
20:15.00Trancerhalf of the guild uses omen and updates 21313 times a day so.. guess it'll do
20:15.11AdirelleTrancer: like rN+1, then rN+2 ?
20:15.14hyperChipmunkFaction: 364-483 Damage
20:15.20TrancerAdirelle: I think so, not 100% sure
20:15.30hyperChipmunkand no info about tameability, diet, and tamed abilities
20:15.48AdirelleTrancer: don't be confused : ThreatLib itself doesn't print anything, it's ThreatToKTM that does
20:15.58Trancerself:Print("Threat-1.0 revision %s is available for download. You're actually using revision %s. Please consider upgrading.",
20:15.58ckknighthyperChipmunk: bah. some other addon is adding that, aren't they?
20:15.59Trancer<PROTECTED>
20:16.01Trancerit was that one Adirelle
20:16.06hyperChipmunkhm
20:16.27AdirelleTrancer: let me check
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20:17.43AdirelleTrancer: was it so annoying ? like it spammed it every 20 seconds ?
20:17.47JaxonhyperChipmunk: no, no other addon does that.  Default UI Beast Lore shows diet, damage, armor, hp, (un)tamable
20:18.01TrancerAdirelle: wasn't that annoying because not many people popped on, but it showed 3 times in an hour
20:18.12ckknighthyperChipmunk: dang...
20:18.15TrancerAdirelle: however say you had a mass dc on server and you get back in a raid with an out of date version..
20:18.21TrancerAdirelle: you get 24 messages or so
20:18.28ckknighthyperChipmunk: I don't have a hunter...
20:18.31Trancer(your own fault, logically, but still)
20:18.33AntiarcAdirelle: It looks like LoadKLHTMBroadcastSupport isn't prevented from being called multiple times
20:18.39AdirelleTrancer: only if people in the raid have 24 different revisions
20:18.40AntiarcI'll add that in
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20:18.57Trancernot sure about the different revisions, haven't checked that, sorry
20:20.00AdirelleTrancer: np, but I'm sure : it only notice for *newer* revision that latest seen
20:20.22TrancerI see
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20:20.41AdirelleTrancer: e.g. say your Threat is rev 45 (fake numbers), and saw in this order : 38, 47, 45, 45, 49, 49, 38, it will report only 47 and 49
20:20.56Tranceryeah, I understand
20:21.08Trancerideally it would just state it once though, only for 47 "Your version is out of date, go update"
20:21.21Trancerif 49 is released, not relevant, still need to update
20:21.26Adirelleright...
20:21.37AdirelleI'll fix that this way
20:22.30NightHawkTheSanewee! new who!
20:22.32hyperChipmunkJaxon: i know that
20:22.38TrancerAdirelle: great :-)
20:22.40hyperChipmunkI thought ckk did too =P
20:22.45AdirelleAntiarc: ok
20:22.54JaxonhyperChipmunk: message went to wrong person, nevermind me :P
20:23.09hyperChipmunki think i may still have my screenshots from tinytip
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20:23.12AdirelleAntiarc: hmm... what happen if a Threat peer runs an incompatible revision ?
20:23.26AntiarcThey just may get bogus data
20:23.52hyperChipmunkyea, i do
20:24.20hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/ttipbl.png is a normal beastlore tooltip
20:24.32AdirelleAntiarc: would mind to add the incompatible revision in the broadcast and send an Threat_NoticeIncompatible event ?
20:24.56AntiarcEh. It's not that big of a deal, I think
20:25.12hyperChipmunkalso, my pet's threat is WAAAY high
20:25.28hyperChipmunki grab agro at like 20%
20:25.53AdirelleAntiarc: it depends on people :p
20:26.05ckknighthyperChipmunk: alright...
20:26.15AdirelleAntiarc: noticing about updated version is one thing, noticing about *your* udpate being incompatible is another one
20:26.24Adirelles/update b/version b/
20:26.49Trancerhm.. nice description on SRA
20:26.50WixiSaroz: (21:23:38) (Kytrarewn) heheheehe... MementoMori is the greatest addon I've ever heard of
20:26.53Trancernow.. what would it be
20:26.57SarozWixi :p
20:27.50AdirelleAntiarc: in which scenario would  LoadKLHTMBroadcastSupport be called multiple times ?
20:28.13AntiarcAdirelle: Someone calls ThreatLib:EnableKLHTMBroadcast(true) more than once?
20:28.35AdirelleAntiarc: if LoadKLHTMBroadcastSupport gets to its end, EnableKLHTMBroadcast is overriden...
20:28.54AdirelleAntiarc: look at line 196
20:28.58AntiarcOh. Duh. Heh.
20:29.42Trancer[Ammoo]: what does SRA do? Some new raid addon (looking at code)
20:29.59Adirellebtw the Enablexd event won't be triggered
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20:36.20Wogroipl[2007/06/23 22:26:27-387-x5]: PitBull-r41439\PitBull.lua:1455: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "AceEvent_FullyInitialized". "PitBull" is not registered with it.
20:36.54AntiarcHm, been through a full AV and Threat hasn't jumped up at all
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20:36.56ckknighthyperChipmunk: want to test the beastlore dealy thing now?
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20:37.23AdirelleAntiarc: did you see the report about misdirection causing troubles ?
20:37.29AntiarcNo, what was it?
20:37.50hyperChipmunkckknight: give it to me
20:37.57ckknighthyperChipmunk: just committed
20:39.01hyperChipmunkmuch better
20:39.07Saroz[Ammo], violation is ignoring it's own users.. I got rogues not showing on damagemeters, and it's only rogues using violation
20:39.08ckknightshows all nice-like?
20:39.17hyperChipmunkthe double health line is a bit redundant though
20:39.19hyperChipmunkss inc
20:39.30Garoun|LoupanaAntiarc any idea why Omen occasionally jumps between grow direction?
20:39.31Saroz[Ammo], it's ignoring healing from violation users aswell
20:40.00Garoun|LoupanaI had it set to Grow Up last night, and every so often it's flip all the bars to grow down for a few seconds
20:40.06AdirelleAntiarc: people are talking about misdirection causing target's threat to stall
20:40.12Garoun|Loupanait's/it'd
20:40.12AntiarcAdirelle: Ooooh.
20:40.20AntiarcIf that's it, awesome. I'll track it down.
20:40.24sag_ich_nichtnymbia: is there a way to drag quartz bars? because i can't seem to find one D:
20:40.24hyperChipmunkckknight: http://69.14.77.214/ctipbl.png
20:40.31AntiarcGaroun|Loupana: Not entirely, but I've seen it
20:40.38Garoun|Loupanak
20:40.50AdirelleAntiarc: see the update : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6480.msg113916#msg113916
20:40.53ckknighthyperChipmunk: basically, it detects beast lore, and if so, just pops all the lines on the end...
20:41.02ckknighthyperChipmunk: can't really think of a better way :-P
20:41.37ckknighthyperChipmunk: I figure: live with the redundancy
20:43.08hyperChipmunkyea, it's not that big a deal
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20:44.57JaxonDoes anyone know which mod is spamming my guild chat with "Now Queued for 5v5" "We are now in Ruins of Lorderon (9)".  A guildmate doesn't know which one to turn off.
20:45.23Gnarfozhrm
20:45.33GnarfozOmen: http://ace.pastey.net/64066
20:45.47sag_ich_nichtsome battleground join sync mod probably Jaxon
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20:45.59Garoun|Loupanawouldn't devtools tell you want fired off that message?
20:46.09sag_ich_nicht(although that's an inredibly inefficient protocol if that's it)
20:46.14Garoun|Loupanawant/what
20:47.06sag_ich_nichtnymbia or anyone else tell me how i drag the castbars in quartz D:
20:47.10GnarfozAdirelle: http://ace.pastey.net/64066 < just got that on login
20:47.43AdirelleGnarfoz: the joyce of drycode
20:47.48Gnarfozheh =)
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20:48.24sag_ich_nichtgod screw it i'll just force move them with fluidframes.
20:48.37Adirellefixed
20:51.15sag_ich_nichtokay nevermind
20:51.26dodgizzlameh, ClassTimer does not remember to not show certain buffs :\
20:51.26sag_ich_nichtthat lock button should be bigger
20:51.28sag_ich_nichtby a lot.
20:51.44nymbiasag_ich_nicht: unlocking em might help
20:52.53Tupsicowtip gives a new error now
20:52.59Tupsiyou already got that?
20:53.27AdirelleAntiarc: quite often, Omen resets window position, and the default position being (0,0) from bottomleft, it is generally under my fuber panel and chat frames :/
20:53.35Tupsihttp://ace.pastey.net/64074
20:53.53AntiarcAdirelle: /omen display center till I figure it out
20:54.01Adirelle\o/
20:54.35AdirelleTupsi: http://ace.pastey.net/64078
20:56.06Tupsilooks like that deformat is missing?
20:57.49Gnarfozhm, I never followed it up, but can you specialize in elixirs or potions, and then just re-specialize just for the money to say, transmute spec?
20:57.56Fisker-man
20:57.59Fisker-doctor who was fappable
20:58.02Tupsiyeah, when i add deformat as statealone its working
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20:58.15Tupsiits not referenced in the current cowtip.toc though
20:58.23Tupsiand not included in the latest package
20:58.39TupsiAdirelle : thats what i ment
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21:02.01sag_ich_nichtmhm, is there a way to create a macro that will on the first press cast a spell, on the second either cancel casting if there is anything currently casting or cast that spell again if there is nothing casting currently?
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21:02.59KeiasIs there a way to show a healthbar with CowTip?
21:05.14Garoun|Loupanasag: only modifier I know of is channeling, I don't think there is one for casting
21:05.27Daemonasame thought as Loupana
21:05.53ckknightKeias: not yet
21:05.57Garoun|Loupanawhich spell are you trying to use sag?
21:06.00ckknightKeias: mind adding it to the wish list?
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21:07.05Adirellenevcairiel: ping ?
21:07.17trhanyone who feels like editing the wowace.com wiki should update the "WHISPER" section of http://wowace.com/wiki/AceComm-2.0 to indicate that it's sent via the WHISPER addon channel and not via normal whisper adding a /
21:07.53sag_ich_nichttrh does that mean you just figured that out and will change vanaskos functionality? :P
21:08.55trhsag_ich_nicht: nope, i'm rewriting the synchronizer module... but as it'll implement diff list sending i'll sometime add it too distributed tracking too
21:08.57nevcairielAdirelle: pong
21:09.25Adirellenevcairiel: I'm playing around with the showing/hiding of button, to make "pass-through" bars
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21:09.57Adirellenevcairiel: if I got it, the trouble is when switching bars, that's it ?
21:10.07ckknighttrh: yea, I'll fix it
21:10.25nevcairielswitching bars can prolly be dealt with, using the stateheader
21:10.40nevcairielreal trouble is, picking up a spell in combat, you cannot place it again
21:10.57trhckknight: nice, i'd have done it if my english was better :)
21:11.06Adirellenevcairiel: okay, so I'll try add an "combat lock" option
21:11.32nevcairielive thought about it
21:11.41nevcairieldo you really change buttons in combat?
21:12.00nevcairieli know i do sometimes .. but only if i forgot something before .. so dunno
21:12.18AdirelleMe ? never, in fact I'd prefer
21:12.44AdirelleI'd prefer button to stay in place to prevent losing something (shift is my push-to-talk key :/)
21:13.17Garoun|Loupanathe next thing I have to figure out is why bartender3 is missing some pet actions during Chess event
21:13.35JaxonI've never had problems with it.
21:13.51Garoun|Loupanait hasn't started happening until recently
21:14.14Garoun|Loupanawonder if blizzard removed the passive/aggressive/defensive actions from Chess peices
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21:14.46kebinusanFor some reason on chess I have problems with the moving reticle disappearing real fast
21:14.53kebinusanI havent figured out what mod was causing it
21:14.58Garoun|LoupanaI think that is a blizzard bug
21:15.17sbusag_ich_nicht: /quartz -> player -> lock
21:15.22trhckknight: while you're on it - the first source code example in the RegisterMemoizations sections misses () around the list of memoizations
21:15.25Garoun|Loupanait happens typically when you get hit by something while trying to use the ground target
21:15.29ZealotOnAStickit's fixed, or at least greatly improved, in 2.1.2
21:15.30sbuarrg
21:15.36ckknighttrh: hehe, no it doesn't ;-)
21:15.37sbudidnt scroll down :o
21:15.38ZealotOnAStickand yes, they removed the stance options on the pieces.
21:15.57trhckknight: oh.. so lua allows function calls without ()? =)
21:15.59ZealotOnAStickThey're default aggro, and will auto-attack any enemy piece in the square in front of them.
21:16.04Garoun|Loupanaand that sucks Zealot :P I liked hitting passive if I needed to quickly exit a peice
21:16.05ckknighttrh: for strings and tables
21:16.09trhckknight: ah =)
21:16.13trhckknight: but it looks weird ;)
21:16.18ckknighttrh: e.g. print "hello world" is the same as trh("hello world")
21:16.37trhckknight: ya.. i guessed that after you said.. basic style ;)
21:16.43sag_ich_nicht[23:15] <sbu> sag_ich_nicht: /quartz -> player -> lock <--yeah i figured it out, thanks :O
21:17.16sag_ich_nicht[23:05] <Garoun|Loupana> sag: only modifier I know of is channeling, I don't think there is one for casting <--mhm, is there a reason for there not being one for casting? because if there isn't i'd like to ask someone to post a request for it on the forums :O
21:19.15sag_ich_nicht[23:08] <trh> sag_ich_nicht: nope, i'm rewriting the synchronizer module... but as it'll implement diff list sending i'll sometime add it too distributed tracking too <--god.
21:19.17sag_ich_nicht*good.
21:19.18sag_ich_nicht><
21:27.54Adirellenevcairiel: It don't have a clue how to use the state driver to hide/show the right button on page swapping :/
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21:29.15nevcairielwell i do
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21:29.18nevcairiel:)
21:29.37nevcairieli even had it written for bartender4 already, but i am not sure if i will use it
21:29.56Ominous_bt4 oO
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21:32.41Adirellenevcairiel: anyway, here is what I done to achieve what I wanted : http://ace.pastey.net/64146
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21:33.51trhckknight: do you maybe know how big the communication cache in acecomm is? :)
21:34.21hyperChipmunkyou can only have 255 chars total in a comm event
21:34.27hyperChipmunkif that's what you mean
21:34.47trhi meant more like how many kb's i could acecomm tell to send
21:34.54trhwithout having it blocking the call
21:35.47sag_ich_nichttrh: it would only delay it iirc
21:36.09hyperChipmunk2, probably, unless there's some compression
21:36.39trhsag_ich_nicht: blocking = like in socket programming blocking calls until send complete =)
21:36.44Mikkthe acecomm communications cache is infinitely large
21:36.52Mikkit just feeds stuff to chatthrottlelib
21:36.59Mikkwhich doesn't have a max queue size
21:37.04trhMikk: thanks :)
21:38.02trhi had a strange problem with acecomm yesterday, when i sent a big table (like 300 entries with alot of data in it) via acecomm on my computer it worked, on the computer of a friend it crashed
21:38.04Sarozckknight, gonna look at that module/banzai thing soon?
21:38.10trh(err.. not crashed.. disconnected)
21:38.40Mikksigh... looks like not even 800CPS is safe
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21:38.47Mikkon most servers you can send 2000cps just fine
21:38.54Mikkbut there's crap ones that ... well... bleh
21:38.57trhMikk: well.. the strange thing is that it worked with his account on my computer
21:39.03Mikko.O
21:39.05trhMikk: with not a single other addon running (on both computerS)
21:39.12trhMikk: one discs, other one doesn't
21:39.25Mikktrh: what's your internet connection, and what's his?
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21:39.46trhMikk: 1mbit upstream, both - it's the same line.. (was my flatmate)
21:40.05Mikkerr doh
21:40.09trhMikk: only difference is that i'm using vista, he uses xp
21:40.31ckknightSaroz: I looked, it seemed to be fine
21:40.42sag_ich_nichtin b4 error in blizzards coding.
21:40.49Sarozckknight, but it isnt :p
21:40.50ckknighttrh: oh, I think somewhere along the like of 60 KiB effectively
21:41.07trhMikk: it gets even stranger: when he sent the same list using my account (on his computer where it disced with his account), it worked with mine
21:41.15ckknighttrh: the theoretical max is 256^2, but there's a bit of extra metadata
21:41.15Sarozckknight, unchecked banzai in modules, but still it colors frames red
21:41.17trhckknight: no, it's 100kb/s upload =)
21:41.23ckknightoh, that.
21:41.25Sarozckknight, it doesn't seem to "unload" it correctly
21:41.34ckknightSaroz: oh, okay.
21:41.38ckknightSaroz: I'll check it out.
21:41.42Sarozckknight, thx
21:41.49trhckknight: but the data didn't exceed 60kb i guess
21:41.58trhckknight: more like 300 table entries a 100bytes or sth
21:42.37trhckknight: i wonder if a illegal char in the table could have caused this somehow?
21:42.50Mikktrh: check out the bottom of AceComm. ChatThrottleLib lives there
21:43.00Mikkit has a MAX_CPS setting that you can tweak via /script commands
21:43.07trhMikk: ya, we tweaked that one too
21:43.17trhMikk: to 500 cps and burst the half of the original value
21:43.20trhMikk: didn't worked
21:43.31Mikkwhoa
21:43.38Mikkthat would suggest it's not cps related
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21:44.09trhMikk: ya.. i ruled out illegal characters/generic acecomm errors because it worked on my client
21:45.11Morixhi all:) have hear that is a new addon that is better then swstats?
21:45.26trhMorix: try violation, recount or recap ;)
21:45.53Morixoki :) i will test
21:46.20trhMikk: i think that maybe the lua implementation in wow somehow caused it - using different buffers under vista/xp or sth
21:46.24trhbuffer sizes
21:46.52trhMikk: or the communication stack of wow
21:47.13trhMikk: or the connection of it to lua.. i don't know..
21:47.30trhno other explanation... there should be a error message on disconnects, why the disconnect happened
21:47.34Mikkwell the wow engine won't be different
21:47.41Mikkthe vista tcp stack could be different
21:47.43trhlike 'server spamming', 'same account logged in'
21:48.27DustwhisperIs there any Raidmeters/tool that will accurately show Banish/Sheep per lock/mage on mobname?
21:48.36trhMikk: true, but why would wow disconnect and not just wait for the tcp stack to be ready again?
21:49.22trhanyway
21:49.40Uhurusomeone can advice me a good dps / heal monitor ace addon ?
21:49.50trhi'm now gonna send seperate messages for each entry in that list with memoized
21:50.01Uhurunevcairiel : ping
21:50.05DustwhisperRecount Uhuru tbh
21:50.07trh+strings
21:50.20AnduinLotharhow are text fields supposed to work when t.get == false?  "no get function, acts like an execute that takes parameters." doesn't make any sense to me.
21:50.41UhuruDustwhisper it works for group / raid ?
21:51.00Dustwhisperyes
21:51.04Uhuruk thx
21:51.06trhAnduinLothar: get is a field in the table t which can contain anything?
21:51.09Dustwhisperset your combatlog to 200yards though
21:51.14Dustwhisperwhat I do is simple
21:51.20DustwhisperI run both SWStats and recount at same time
21:51.24Dustwhispercause most in raid uses Swstats
21:51.25AnduinLothartrh: no in the ace options table
21:51.58Uhurui use simplecombatlog
21:51.58Dustwhisperand i know if they show the same DPS then the data for that person is 100% accurate
21:51.58Dustwhispersimplecombatlog is a combatlog
21:51.58Dustwhispernot a monitor/meter
21:51.58trhAnduinLothar: if get == false, set is called with parameter
21:52.07Uhuruhow to set combatlog to 200 yards please ?
21:52.08trhAnduinLothar: and the text to enter is always empty if you open the menu
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21:52.50sag_ich_nichtckknight: what are the points at which the memory usage number turns yellow/red in performancefu?
21:53.05ckknightsag_ich_nicht: 20 and 30 I think
21:53.09sag_ich_nichtheh
21:53.11vithosAntiarc: i think pet growl's threat is way too high (running r41446).  what would be a good way to provide you with data to analyze?
21:53.14AnduinLotharset is usually called with the passed parameter isn't it? so get==false just means it starts empty?
21:53.17ckknightsomething like that
21:53.25sag_ich_nicht105 MB of usesage and 60 fps
21:53.26sag_ich_nicht:O
21:53.28ckknightAnduinLothar: right.
21:53.33ckknightsag_ich_nicht: *shrug*
21:53.35trhsag_ich_nicht: sick ;)
21:53.37DustwhisperI use a nice mod for it
21:53.41DustwhisperViolation_CombatLogRange
21:53.48Dustwhisperautomaticly sets combatlog to 200yards when in a party/raid
21:53.55Antiarcvithos: I know what the problem is - just have to test it :)
21:54.06trhAnduinLothar: yep.. as i said :)
21:54.09AntiarcI made a drycode change yesterday that has problems
21:54.33trhdrycoding sucks ;)
21:54.51trhalthough we were very successfull at a experimential software engineering project for the university
21:54.52UhuruDustwhisper k thx, you tried Violation in place of recount ?
21:54.55starlonwhat buff bars are people using?
21:54.58Dustwhisperyes i have
21:54.58trhno runtime tests at all, completly drycoded
21:55.02trhonly 3 hours to debug it :)
21:55.07DustwhisperI tried recount, violation and assessment
21:55.13Dustwhisperand recap
21:55.14Uhururecount is better ?
21:55.14trh(after we were allowed to compile and run it :)
21:55.26Dustwhisperrecount is in my opinion much better
21:55.30Dustwhispertbh i hate the violation gui
21:55.34trhbut it takes alot more memory :)
21:55.38trh(recount)
21:55.40Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/wowace/june2.html
21:55.43Dustwhisperthat it does
21:55.50Uhuruok il will try it :)
21:55.51trhit gets easily to use 8mb alone
21:55.56trhbut it's just pretty :)
21:56.00vithosAntiarc: oh alright, cool.  and btw, i'm loving threat so far :D great work!
21:56.07AntiarcThanks :)
21:56.14NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: thats rather nice lookign
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21:57.16Dustwhispercan you soon spesify the "blink %" on threatbars on Omen?
21:57.21NightHawkTheSane"So america is completely in charge?" "Since Britain elected an ass? Yes."
21:57.28Dustwhisperaaaaaaaaaaand is the Dragout bars fixed so the dragged out person isnt fucked on the threatmeter ?
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22:02.51Dustwhisperhas cartographer gotten fixed? instancemaps doesnt show for me inn it
22:03.08NightHawkTheSanetennent is so awesome.
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22:03.24MikkAGAIN? I fixed that long ago
22:05.05Dustwhisperwell i hadnt updated in a week or two
22:05.06Dustwhisperbut yea
22:05.15Dustwhisperand i never could find outdoor bosses on it either
22:05.29DustwhisperIs there any Raidmeters/tool that will accurately show Banish/Sheep per lock/mage on mobname?
22:05.36Dustwhisperthat is "non harmfull spells"
22:06.21nymbia.
22:07.10ckknightDustwhisper: update, it works for me.
22:07.59Dustwhisperi just did ill check now
22:08.10Dustwhispertesting latest ver of recount aswell, hadnt updated it in a couple weeks
22:08.14sag_ich_nichtmhm
22:08.16Dustwhisperi do prefer recaps UI over recount
22:08.17sag_ich_nichtokay
22:08.20Dustwhisperbut i still think recount is better
22:08.28sag_ich_nichtwait, wrong channel
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22:12.47Dustwhisperand even another quest
22:12.56DustwhisperarkInventory gotten fixed so you can have vertical sections instead?
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22:13.50Mech0zCryect would it be possible to track none shammyes windfury procs?
22:13.56Mech0zor "extra attacks"
22:14.07Mech0zprobobly cant track wf alone :/
22:14.17sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel a simple request, add an option to choose the color and alpha level of the out of range coloring in bartender?
22:14.35sag_ich_nichts/add/could you please add/
22:15.05ckknightAntiarc: your guild seems very interested in helping with an RP mod
22:15.18ckknightoh, you're Auryon
22:15.27AntiarcYa
22:15.35hyperChipmunklol
22:15.37AntiarcTesting hunter crap
22:15.59hyperChipmunkhunters aren't crap! you're crap!
22:16.19ravagernlhunters roxorzboxorz
22:16.48ckknightur mom's crap
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22:19.33Tupsihmm classtimer stoped showing my battle shout timer bar, ist that a new "feature"?
22:19.35CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r85 10/branches/TinyTip: Created folder remotely
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22:22.40Mech0zCryect are you implementing a merge pet player anytime soon (I know its still new but would be awesome :p)
22:23.14sag_ich_nichtalso make it default
22:23.16sag_ich_nichtthat's important.
22:23.16sag_ich_nicht:O
22:23.53Mech0zwell if its set as default, then make a pettap in the details window
22:23.57Mech0zso its seperated inthere
22:24.55DaemonaNeed a tip on an Inventory mod, currently using OneBag and affiliates, but i need something to sword e.g. by resistance, closetgnome set tag, etc... my inventory is far too busy, and cross-char bank/bag access :X
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22:25.09Daemonas/sword/sort
22:25.28Trancerhmm, Ace2-OO from the packages has been complaining about needing Dewdrop for a while (FubarPlugin needs it apparently)
22:25.49Mech0zDaemona try arkinventory
22:25.54Mech0zbut think its not very lightweight
22:26.02Daemonai dont mind, i need functionality
22:26.08Mech0zit have that
22:26.19Daemonadoes it have cross-char bank/bags ?
22:26.24Mech0zlike you can make a tap called "things I love" and put wierd stuf in it
22:26.38Mech0zyes as long as they are on the same realm
22:26.50Daemonatime to switch then :/
22:27.01TrancerAce-OO-2.0\Ace-OO-2.0.lua:627: FuBarPlugin-2.0: FuBarPlugin requires Dewdrop-2.0.
22:27.04Daemonamy bags are so busy during raiding i get lost with sorting and finding stuff in bags / banks
22:27.07TupsiDaemona : it has everything
22:27.44Mech0zTupsi ark?
22:28.27Tupsiyes
22:28.45Tupsiwell at least i dont miss anything yet .-)
22:28.47NightHawkTheSaneDaemona: you might try Baggins. It's a beast to set up, but extremely powerful and configurable. Though you can't view your bank remotely, or other characters, so pairing it with something like Sanity2 is good.
22:29.06Daemonaguess i'll try both
22:29.10Tranceroh great, it's a package lacking dewdrop but having fubarplugin, yay for having without external
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22:30.11nevcairieldoes anyone know a simple addon that shows the diminishing returns on a target? like i cyclone a player, and i want to know when DR has worn off?
22:30.21Chompersckknight; the jumping bugs fixed, ty
22:30.26ckknight:-)
22:30.53sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: natur enemy castbar
22:33.41MorghusKC_Items isn't loading the Fence module. Something I'm doing wrong?
22:34.51Gnarfozckknight: my party frame(s) show "party member #2" for my party member oO
22:34.59ckknighthrm...
22:35.29TrancerI found a bug in Prat
22:35.38ckknightGnarfoz: any idea on how to reproduce?
22:35.39Trancerwho should I bug with that?
22:35.51Mech0zother than Icehud any good ace huds?
22:36.16Mech0zwith inbuild threat1.0 support ?!?
22:36.45Gnarfozckknight: dunno, am doing arena match after arena match
22:36.50hyperChipmunkMech0z: try archud
22:36.53Gnarfozafter one, it suddenly showed that instead of the name
22:37.02Trancerhm.. where in an ace module is specified which libraries it needs?
22:37.11Trancer(so WAU knows what the externals are that it has to fetch)
22:37.20ckknightGnarfoz: k, making a commit to DogTag
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22:37.46Gnarfozheh, it's back to normal after this match now (persisted for 2 joins and two leaves before that now)
22:38.01AwaaTrancer: the .toc file
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22:38.48TrancerHmm, strange, Dewdrop is listed there, but it's not downloaded
22:39.43WixiTupsi: Did you find a solution to B/Shout on Classtimers?
22:39.43Trancerperhaps it should be under optional deps?
22:39.44sag_ich_nichtmhm
22:40.20TrancerI'll wait for sylvanaar I guess
22:40.41Tranceror Fin, perhaps
22:40.49Trancer(cheesy hilight)
22:42.05TupsiWixi : no
22:42.16Tupsihave not looked at it yet though
22:42.26Tupsidont have an error in bugsack
22:42.33Trancerhmm ckknight, topic needs an update, no? WAU 1.9 is released
22:42.40ckknightnot it
22:42.44ckknightbug Kaelten
22:43.10Tupsihmm thats odd
22:43.11sag_ich_nichtmhm
22:43.19sag_ich_nichtwhat happened to HealComm-2.0 ?
22:43.20Tupsiits not in the buff timer list anymore
22:43.31TrancerKaelten: also http://crazy.mofo.nl/~trancer/wauerror.txt
22:43.33Tupsiwhen i do /ct to open config
22:43.41WixiTupsi: Lol i just noticed that too
22:43.44KaeltenTrancer: put it on trac
22:44.23Trancerwill make a ticket
22:44.32Tupsiso its a "feature change" it seems .-(
22:45.25Tupsiwho is the dev of ct?
22:45.41Mikkcide
22:45.43TupsiOminous : it seems?`
22:45.48Mikkhe hangs out in #wowi-lounge
22:46.17TupsiMikk : was that a response to my question?
22:46.32sag_ich_nichti have an addon here(visualheal) that has it embbeded and the addon isn't on the svn so i can't just install it as no-ext and everything it has embedded is available on the SVN except for HealComm-2.0, so has HealComm-2.0 been replaced or should i just keep it in as embedded and remove the other embedded ones only? >.>
22:46.35MikkTupsi: yes
22:46.44Tupsithanks
22:46.54Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/output.html
22:47.04TrancerKaelten: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1138
22:47.44NightHawkTheSaneKaelten: awesome.
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22:48.00Mikksag_ich_nicht: keep healcomm embedded imo
22:48.22trhKaelten: awesomeČ
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22:48.39sag_ich_nichti'd still like to know why it isn't available from files.wowace.com and the documentation site is gone from the wiki as well D:
22:48.39hyperChipmunkAntiarc: you have my pet gaining like 3k threat on a growl
22:49.20AntiarchyperChipmunk: Updated in the last half hour?
22:49.42sag_ich_nichtanything else i should pay attention to when turning the addon into a no-ext version? >.>
22:49.43Trancercan anyone update the Prat.toc?
22:49.49hyperChipmunkoh, no
22:49.52Trancerit must have DewdropLib in optionaldeps in .toc
22:49.55Trancerit doesn't atm
22:50.11Trancerso if you use a version with external you get an error about Dewdrop missing
22:50.16hyperChipmunkwhat's the entrance to nax?
22:50.25sag_ich_nichtteleporter in WPL
22:50.27sag_ich_nichterm
22:50.28sag_ich_nichtEPL
22:50.41hyperChipmunklooks like it should be this mark of detonation thing
22:50.44hyperChipmunkbut it don't do anything
22:50.45Trancerit's one of those portal thingies in front of Stratholme, in plaguewood
22:51.00hyperChipmunkhm k
22:51.01sag_ich_nichthyperChipmunk: just follow the road to strath, it's on the right to it
22:51.05durcynepl 40,26, to be more precise
22:51.06sag_ich_nichtyou can't really miss it
22:51.11sag_ich_nicht:P
22:51.14sag_ich_nichtdidn't have the client open
22:51.18sag_ich_nichtnow
22:51.23sag_ich_nicht[00:49] <sag_ich_nicht> anything else i should pay attention to when turning the addon into a no-ext version? >.>
22:53.41hyperChipmunk,aha
22:54.10vithosasdf.  DBM's /rangecheck means i can't configure RangeCheck :(
22:55.08ckknightupdate CowTip if you want to mess with the positioning stuff
22:55.11ckknightI added some niceties
22:55.32Chompersyay!
22:55.43Chompersi've got a few guildies using it
22:55.53Chomperssoon everyone will use it
22:56.49WixiDogTags confuzzles me lol
22:57.42MorghusI tested it out, but old TinyTip's still covering everything I need.
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22:58.59Antiarc^([0-9]+\.[0-9]+).*?([0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}).*?\/200.*?GET http:\/\/.*?\/([^\/]*?)[\/ ].*?\/ <-- epix regex
22:59.23TrancerHehehe
22:59.32NightHawkTheSanethats not epic
23:00.25NightHawkTheSaneTHIS is epic: http://textsnippets.com/posts/show/42
23:00.45zacIs there a way to get DifficultyColor to work for even friendly players?
23:01.16TrancerNightHawkTheSane: holy crap.
23:02.57TrancerAntiarc: parsing apache logs?
23:03.15AntiarcTrancer: Squid logs, actually
23:03.25Trancerah
23:03.30AntiarchyperChipmunk: That's just excessive.
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23:03.44kebinusanNightHawkTheSane: holy cow
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23:04.06TrancerI guess it applies the same logic to every char of an email addy over and over.. (255 times)
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23:05.13hyperChipmunkAntiarc: who wha?
23:06.11AntiarcSorry, meant NightHawkTheSane
23:06.29NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: yes, it is excessive. and no one in their right mind should use it. but damn if it's not epic. :p
23:07.34AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: That's epic in the same way http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31328 is epic.
23:07.51NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: lol, yeah. :P
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23:08.43Trancerheh, those got a 'small' boost in 2.1
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23:12.22ravagernldamn, I wan that
23:12.34Trancerfarm money and hunt the AH :p
23:13.00hyperChipmunkoh wow
23:13.08hyperChipmunkthose got boosted quite a bit O_o
23:13.09ravagernl0.00000001 chance to drop :|
23:13.45hyperChipmunknow i need those
23:13.52hyperChipmunkfinally a real hunter item
23:13.55hyperChipmunkagi and sta
23:13.59hyperChipmunkgimmeh
23:14.34Codayushttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6935.0;topicseen
23:14.36CodayusSometimes...
23:14.46Codayus...I despair for humanity.
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23:15.02nymbialol
23:15.21durcyndon't.. humanity doesn't deserve it.
23:16.09Tranceras a great bash.org states: <xterm> The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
23:16.16Trancerhumanity can not be saved
23:16.24CodayusI tried to write a reply, but gave up after a few attempts.  They all just devolved into insults.  :-(
23:16.30Trancerso help people by removing labels ;-)
23:17.06ravagernlgah
23:18.04ravagernlI think "You are stupid." is polite enough :P
23:18.20Slayman2it's at the border of politeness
23:18.28Slayman2the outer one that is
23:18.55CodayusYeah...well.  The real issue is where to START?
23:19.06CodayusThere's just so much wrong with the post.
23:19.31CodayusYou're right, "You are stupid." does pretty much cover it though.
23:19.48Slayman2I heard there are people who don't know what being an Ace Addon really means
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23:19.58Slayman2and dazeal is their official CEO
23:20.12durcyneh, no reason to harp on it.
23:20.23CodayusWell, check out the posters history; he's the one who posted something a couple days ago asking people to help him convince his guildmembers that Ace2 mods didn't contain viruses.
23:20.50CodayusAnd keyloggers.
23:21.04CodayusMmm, ignoring it is probably best...
23:21.46Azurewrathhaha.. just read the posting.. "You are stupid." covers it :)
23:22.02Slaymantell him they are viruses, trojans, wurms(got to be worms i believe), keyloggers and black holes for data
23:22.11Slaymanhe will be gone afterwards :D
23:22.42ravagernlhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6921.0 omg!
23:24.13Mikkwtf you can't SetLootThreshold(1) anymore =(
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23:24.32CodayusMikk: Yeah, probably to fix the Vashj "exploit".
23:24.49CodayusAnnoying.
23:25.18SlaymanMikk: wasn't that SetMasterLootThreshold(1) ?
23:26.31Mikkno, that function doesn't exist
23:26.51Mikkthe same threshold is applied to group loot
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23:27.28CodayusKinda nice for some stuff.  :-/
23:27.29kebinusanOn the bright side, marks of ilidiari are green now tho
23:27.52Slaymani see, i got confused, nevermind
23:28.03kebinusanYou can still SetLoot Threshold() just not 0 or 1
23:29.06Antiarcckknight: AceLibrary is growing at about a rate of 1kb/s just sitting still.
23:29.15Slaymanwhat's the patchlvl 2.1.2 ?
23:29.15AntiarcI have all the ace libs running as their own addons
23:29.21ckknighthrm...
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23:29.37AntiarcIt's at 409kb right now
23:29.46Antiarc+275kb according to PerformanceFu
23:29.55Antiarc413
23:30.02ckknightI don't like the memory profiling system
23:30.07AntiarcGrowing and growing.
23:30.08ckknightit works through taint, not by function
23:30.10AntiarcWhat would cause that?
23:30.15ckknightso it's likely _not_ AceLibrary
23:30.21Antiarc420 kb
23:30.26ckknightAntiarc: something that does AceLibrary("blah"); nowDoSomething()
23:30.34AntiarcMmm. Okay.
23:30.48AntiarcI'm running pretty stripped down
23:30.54AntiarcI'll see if I can locate it.
23:31.16AntiarcForcing a collection certainly fixes it.
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23:32.24Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/output.html< updated to show estimated updater user count
23:32.27ckknightbrb
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23:40.21AntiarcLooks like it's Threat or one of the libs it's using.
23:41.30AntiarcLikely in the comms handling
23:42.42nevcairielbtw, did anyone update agUF and sRF today and tried reproducing the lockup issue ? ^^
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23:47.38ckknightnevcairiel: or PitBull
23:48.18Slaymancan one change the fontsize from cowtip apart from the general scaling?
23:48.18nevcairielckknight: yeah well you had a workaround before :)
23:48.30ckknightnevcairiel: and I took it out
23:48.37ckknightSlayman: nope
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23:49.16sbuhm, can you re-learn tailoring specialization?
23:49.30trhi heard you can
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23:50.08Keiassbu, do you mean like dropping Shadowcloth spec for Spellcloth?
23:50.23sburight
23:50.31Arrowmasteryou can, talk to the npcs that game you the spec
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23:50.56Mellow_but you have to learn from the tailor from 0, dont you?
23:51.23Mellow_-from
23:51.25kenlyricrelearning a specialty? nope. Just pay 170g.
23:51.42trhkenlyric: can you do it as often as you want?
23:51.46Mellow_for 170g you can change the spec?
23:51.48Arrowmasteryes
23:51.50kenlyricI haven't tried more than once
23:52.00kenlyricbut I just did it a few days ago, 150g to unlearn, 20g to learn again.
23:52.07kenlyricdidn't lose a single recipe
23:52.09ckknightwhat do I call the module that makes CowTip look different? e.g. change border/background/size
23:52.25sbu150 sounds okay, its higher than price for 1 piece of cloth
23:52.48Arrowmasterckknight: CowBrand?
23:52.52Slaymanckknight: : as in not yet or not going to happen?
23:52.55ckknightno, not a funny name
23:52.58kenlyricit's reasonably annoying, without being completely craptastic (like other professions :)
23:53.01ckknightSlayman: um, what?
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23:53.12Slaymanckknight: : > can one change the fontsize from cowtip apart from the general scaling?
23:53.19ckknightSlayman: one can't
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23:53.25ckknightnor will I add it
23:53.28ckknighttoo complex
23:53.30ckknightimho.
23:53.55kaidenAnyone know of a trinket that launches you extremely far forward shooting fire out of your rear and making you spin as you are about to land
23:54.09kaideni'm watching this pvp video and i've never seen it and was wondering wtf it was because it looks fun
23:54.10kaidenheh :P
23:54.21kaidenhttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=42213&mirror=4 at 14mins 24 seconds or so
23:54.36kenlyriccowtip_visualelements, only, less obtuse than that.
23:54.47dodgizzlahrmpf
23:54.57dodgizzlaI really like ClassTimers, but that Sticky bars are just buggy :D
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23:55.27ckknightkenlyric: thinking of "Looks"
23:55.30hyperChipmunkkaiden: mortar reload failure?
23:55.51kenlyric"layout" is good, but loaded with extra meaning in ace mods.
23:56.10kenlyricLooks works.
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23:58.27Gnarfozblergh
23:58.41Gnarfozeither it's a coincidence or my wow keeps crashing on party joins :<
23:58.49kaidenhyperChipmunk, hrmph, not seeing any mortar related items that could cause that launching
23:59.08ckknightGnarfoz: what UF?
23:59.19Gnarfozyours :)
23:59.24ckknighthrm...
23:59.26ckknightshouldn't do that.
23:59.40Gnarfozit's actually my entire machine going down, not wow
23:59.43ckknightoh
23:59.46ckknightouchies

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