| 00:01.07 | sbu | okay |
| 00:01.08 | Thrae | ckknight: Well, I'd rather cooperate if that's OK with you. |
| 00:01.20 | ckknight | perhaps |
| 00:01.30 | ckknight | question: why is TinyTip's code unreadable? |
| 00:01.45 | ckknight | I thought to myself that I could use it as inspiration, but was very, very wrong |
| 00:01.51 | Thrae | Answer - because you're not reading the -new- code. |
| 00:02.00 | ckknight | that'd make sense |
| 00:02.17 | Daemona | because its thrae-ded ? |
| 00:02.25 | Gnarfoz | yay, 4400 is back again |
| 00:02.27 | Gnarfoz | *watch* |
| 00:02.28 | Kemayo | That the stuff at http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/TinyTip/ ? |
| 00:02.44 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (i=HydraIRC@81-178-107-158.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 00:02.50 | Thrae | (a) Someone killed its tab formating (b) I wasn't as good a coder as I am now. |
| 00:03.07 | Thrae | Kemayo: Right. |
| 00:04.14 | Thrae | ckknight: TinyTipCore will use Dongle, but its module system will not. So you don't have to use the evil if you don't want to. |
| 00:04.32 | Morghus | Thrae: Been using TinyTip for ages. It's <34 |
| 00:04.34 | Morghus | *<3 |
| 00:05.26 | Morghus | What's Dongle, by the way? |
| 00:05.43 | Thrae | Tiny framework for a Tiny addon |
| 00:05.48 | Kemayo | Dongle is a framework, like Ace2. (Though it's a lot more minimalist in philosophy than Ace2.) |
| 00:05.52 | Thrae | ~dongle |
| 00:05.52 | purl | well, dongle is An integrated library with the goal of providing an addon framework as lightweight as possible, putting the burden on authors to implement most things they should be implementing themselves. You can get more information at http://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle |
| 00:06.07 | Thrae | That purl is a little biased |
| 00:06.29 | ckknight | I think Tem set it... |
| 00:07.01 | Morghus | I thought Ace2 was "Developers first, then efficiency" :P |
| 00:07.09 | *** join/#wowace stavmar (n=chatzill@cpe-97-99-113-207.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 00:07.34 | ckknight | Morghus: Ace2's not as minimalistic as Dongle, and I'm not going to apologize for it |
| 00:08.09 | cladhaire | did anyone ask you to? |
| 00:08.10 | Morghus | I didn't ask you to. I just stated my impression. I don't give a rats ass either way, as long as it's good :P |
| 00:08.18 | Morghus | *it's a good addon |
| 00:09.03 | Morghus | I think both is cool tbh. Pushing in different directions will create a more diverse flora of development :) |
| 00:09.14 | ckknight | flora ftl, fauna ftw |
| 00:09.19 | Thrae | purl: no, dongle is An integrated library with the goal of providing an addon framework as lightweight as possible, putting the burden on authors to implement functionality which other frameworks normally provide for ease of use. You can get more information at http://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle. |
| 00:09.19 | purl | Thrae: okay |
| 00:09.38 | Thrae | My grammar is off |
| 00:09.42 | durcyn | ckknight: bestiality, wtfmate? |
| 00:09.50 | ckknight | ... |
| 00:09.50 | ckknight | no |
| 00:10.02 | mitch1 | ckk: care to comment on the [Range] implementation? or should I just go ahead and commit it? |
| 00:10.10 | Morghus | Flora, plants. Fauna, beasts. Right? :P |
| 00:10.12 | ckknight | oh, need to check it out |
| 00:10.16 | ckknight | right, Morghus |
| 00:10.19 | ckknight | was making a joke |
| 00:10.46 | mitch1 | ckk: it's in branches/DogTag-1.0/Range |
| 00:10.50 | Morghus | Yeah, I laughed, but that's because I thought "Faun" :P |
| 00:11.06 | ckknight | code looks clean, mitch1 |
| 00:11.15 | mitch1 | it works here, too :) |
| 00:11.30 | ckknight | wait, mitch1 |
| 00:11.31 | ckknight | one change |
| 00:11.45 | mitch1 | took me a while while I understood that jungle that is DogTag |
| 00:11.49 | mitch1 | yes? |
| 00:11.53 | ckknight | instead of events = "Update" down there, put it after the code, that way it'll only update if and only if RangeCheck exists |
| 00:12.00 | kenlyric | there should be fauns in wow! |
| 00:12.04 | ckknight | so it's return [[code]], 'events', "Update" |
| 00:12.28 | mitch1 | ckk: I tried to check it (not sure my understanding is correct) and it seems that only 'globals' is checked in that case |
| 00:12.36 | mitch1 | was wondering about that myself, too |
| 00:12.53 | Morghus | Who -is- Iriel? The name keeps popping up in the addons-world and such |
| 00:13.04 | Thrae | ckknight: By mentioning Dongle, I wasn't saying anything about Ace2. Like I said, TinyTip doesn't even use all of Dongle -- it uses its own module system to be 100% compatible with other people's development styles. |
| 00:13.27 | ckknight | no, mitch1, it's checked in that case |
| 00:13.38 | ckknight | Thrae: oh, I was talking to Morghus, not you wrt Ace2 |
| 00:14.03 | mitch1 | alrighty, will change. guess the Threat thing should be changed then, too, no? |
| 00:14.09 | ckknight | mmm... yea :-P |
| 00:14.17 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 00:15.02 | *** join/#wowace itson (n=itson@cpe-76-171-62-215.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 00:15.05 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41158 10beql/questlog.lua: beql - Added an error message if u shift click a header and u would break the 20 quest limit in the tracker |
| 00:15.12 | Thrae | ckknight: Yeah I know, just wanted to make sure I'm clear on my stance of independance. I like cooperation. It's not in my nature to judge, except when it's for myself. |
| 00:15.15 | itson | hello,.. |
| 00:15.30 | ckknight | alright |
| 00:16.03 | ckknight | basically, I'm not making CowTip to be the lightest addon in the world, I just want it to be simple, customizable, and powerful |
| 00:16.12 | Thrae | On the other hand, some people are more...ahh...outspoken then others, from all directions, y'know. Kenco included ;) |
| 00:16.23 | itson | I have a quick lua question. does "delay = 5;" work? what do tool do i have in lua to delay my script 5 seconds before going on to the next line. |
| 00:16.24 | Morghus | Thrae: Anywhere I can read about tinytip2? =) |
| 00:16.42 | mitch1 | ckk: will you fix the Threat thing, or should I fix it in this patch? |
| 00:16.48 | ckknight | itson: hehe, nope |
| 00:17.02 | ckknight | itson: basically, you can use OnUpdate which WoW provides |
| 00:17.07 | itson | ckknight do u know what will delay my script for say 5 seconds before going on to the next line? |
| 00:17.10 | ckknight | itson: or you can use AceEvent's ScheduleEvent |
| 00:17.19 | Thrae | ckknight: That's exactly what I want TinyTip to be, except I want its Core to be as tiny as possible. TinyTip was made as an alternative to TipBuddy, which was a huge big borg of features which were also a huge pain to maintain. |
| 00:17.39 | itson | i am learning how to work with Ace2 i have Ace2 Libs can u show me how i can use that? |
| 00:17.48 | ckknight | meh, I'm thinking of just going borg-style |
| 00:17.48 | trh_ | itson: or if you prefer the klhthreatmeterstyle: local x = GetTime() while(GetTime() - x < 5000) { } ;) |
| 00:17.51 | itson | the scheduleEvent thing |
| 00:18.02 | ckknight | itson: see the wiki |
| 00:18.08 | ckknight | but not bothering to implement things that I find pointless, though |
| 00:18.33 | Thrae | ckknight: TinyTip still can have all the features people want, I just don't want them in the Core. I don't see what's so wrong about doing a modular approach -- you did the same with many of your addons ;) |
| 00:18.38 | itson | yeah, i followed the guide it got me started but i dont know how to delay, it, so trh_ that should work eh? seems simple let me see row quick |
| 00:18.59 | ckknight | Thrae: I might, if it becomes unwieldy |
| 00:19.03 | trh_ | itson: the problem with that line is that it stops *every* script for 5 seconds =) |
| 00:19.10 | trh_ | itson: so the whole ui stops ;) |
| 00:19.11 | ckknight | Thrae: but it's freaky small right now |
| 00:19.46 | itson | oh, |
| 00:19.49 | itson | i dont really want to do that. |
| 00:19.58 | itson | i just want it to pause before taking the next step |
| 00:20.14 | ckknight | itson: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0 |
| 00:20.15 | trh_ | itson: best way to delay is to use ScheduleEvent |
| 00:20.24 | ckknight | you do this: |
| 00:20.38 | ckknight | self:ScheduleEvent("MyTimer", self.RunInFive, 5, self) |
| 00:20.47 | trh_ | itson: but you have to get away from your line-by-line thinking, think in events and objects - then ace will be very nice to program :) |
| 00:21.18 | Thrae | ckknight: Well, part of the idea is to reduce the number of things that could potentionally break. ~70% of what all people want in a tooltip is represented with TinyTip. All the extra features and tweaking is nice, but people -really- want at least the core formating and positioning working. |
| 00:21.21 | harl|WoW | 8 fps. oh that's so cute. *bang bang prft brrz trk grpf clobber clobber* |
| 00:21.22 | itson | you mean functions and calls ? yeah but these are bit baby steps :) |
| 00:22.03 | JoshBorke | Cryect: ping |
| 00:22.04 | trh_ | itson: did you ever program in java, c# or c++? |
| 00:22.08 | ckknight | Thrae: hey, do you know how to figure out a party member's zone? I think the only way to do it is through tooltip scanning, and that's a bitch. |
| 00:22.12 | itson | k, give me few min to figure out whats on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0 |
| 00:22.19 | itson | brb if i cant figure it out on my own. |
| 00:22.26 | itson | i did not trh |
| 00:22.33 | harl|WoW | lol |
| 00:22.34 | itson | but i can read the code and know what its doing. |
| 00:22.45 | itson | brb tho, let me read that page |
| 00:22.46 | ckknight | itson: AceEvent handles two things, events and schedules |
| 00:22.51 | itson | go on |
| 00:22.58 | ckknight | though they intermix |
| 00:23.05 | Morghus | You schedule an event? =P |
| 00:23.06 | Thrae | ckknight: That's a good question. I think you're right on tooltip scanning. I remember slouken's words -- "Yeah, so you have to scan the tooltip to get it. So what?" |
| 00:23.06 | ckknight | a lot of what you see in the top example is just events |
| 00:23.10 | ckknight | Morghus: yep. |
| 00:23.23 | ckknight | Thrae: lame, because the line numbers change. |
| 00:23.28 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Range * r41159 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: don't update [Range] if there's no RangeCheck-1.0 |
| 00:23.39 | ckknight | mitch1: merge in |
| 00:25.18 | *** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=Jackson@S01060017f2092837.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 00:26.08 | *** join/#wowace hypetech (n=hypetech@66.83.192.147.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 00:27.12 | mitch1 | svn merge sucks... it'll take a while :) |
| 00:28.05 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41160 10Recount/ (5 files): |
| 00:28.05 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes another graph bug |
| 00:28.05 | CIA-22 | -Detail Window now has reporting added |
| 00:28.48 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: fixed? |
| 00:30.00 | itson | ckknight can i msg u? |
| 00:30.15 | hyperChipmunk | only if you're registered to nickserv |
| 00:30.17 | ckknight | ah, sure |
| 00:30.52 | JoshBorke | Cryect: i know you're here! |
| 00:31.33 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@213-205-67-183.net.novis.pt) |
| 00:32.00 | *** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@75-166-29-251.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 00:32.24 | Cryect | Yes? |
| 00:32.32 | Cryect | did you ping for me? :-p |
| 00:32.44 | Cryect | pong |
| 00:32.47 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41161 10beql/tracker.lua: beql - quests completed with hidden objectives or without objectives are now colored as completed |
| 00:32.47 | JoshBorke | cryect: where you get the blp for Auchenai Crypts? |
| 00:33.04 | Cryect | I just grabbed it from Atlas |
| 00:33.10 | JoshBorke | ah, ok |
| 00:33.15 | hyperChipmunk | yoink |
| 00:33.16 | Cryect | was the fastest source I knew for precompiled maps |
| 00:33.17 | JoshBorke | i want to play around with dungeon crawler |
| 00:33.19 | mitch1 | bloody hell, eclipse fsckd up the file encoding :[ |
| 00:33.32 | Cryect | its eclipse! |
| 00:34.03 | Cryect | If you wonder how anything works in it just ask |
| 00:34.17 | JoshBorke | Cryect: so to make dungeon crawler work with another instance i have to figure out the mx, bx, my, by values? |
| 00:34.28 | Cryect | Right |
| 00:34.38 | Cryect | Its just a linear equation |
| 00:35.16 | Cryect | So you grab a few numbers and pop them into your favorite linear least squares solver (or whatever other solver you like if you dislike least squares :-p) |
| 00:35.17 | JoshBorke | to be honest, i can't quite figure out any good use for the mod :-D |
| 00:35.33 | Cryect | Besides it looking cool not really either |
| 00:35.38 | NeoTron | what is dungeon crawler? |
| 00:35.43 | Cryect | One second |
| 00:35.51 | Birdemani | lol what mod yells out FIRST BLOOD in arena |
| 00:35.53 | JoshBorke | Cryect: cool is and understatement |
| 00:35.54 | Birdemani | is that arena master? |
| 00:36.03 | Cryect | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw |
| 00:36.37 | Cryect | If there was a way we could grab a composited texture of the minimap |
| 00:36.45 | Cryect | I would make it into a real addon |
| 00:36.46 | NeoTron | that's pretty cool |
| 00:36.52 | Kebinusan | Antiarc, any chance of getting a hide icon option in omen |
| 00:37.12 | NeoTron | useful if you get lost in a dungeon |
| 00:37.22 | durcyn | ckknight: is there a dogtag for pet's master's name? |
| 00:37.29 | durcyn | didn't see one on the wiki page |
| 00:37.29 | ckknight | no, durcyn |
| 00:37.29 | NeoTron | more importantly though.. can't you use that to show data on the large map of where you currently are? |
| 00:37.46 | ckknight | durcyn: no good way to tell. |
| 00:37.48 | Cryect | much more useful I say if someone just made a cart module for player positions inside of instances |
| 00:37.57 | NeoTron | rigth |
| 00:38.01 | NeoTron | ^^^ :) |
| 00:38.07 | hyperChipmunk | i think the normal tooltip does say <Soandso's Pet> |
| 00:38.10 | durcyn | ckknight: hrm, wonder if there's a way to snarf that from the standard tooltip then.. kind of annoying for cowtip =( |
| 00:38.28 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: hrm... |
| 00:38.33 | ckknight | durcyn: try [Guild] |
| 00:38.41 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 00:38.53 | hyperChipmunk | like <Banker> shows for guild |
| 00:38.55 | ckknight | I'd have to change things |
| 00:38.58 | durcyn | have that set from defaults |
| 00:39.03 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: yea, I made it do that ;-) |
| 00:39.13 | *** join/#wowace art3mis (i=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:39.23 | hyperChipmunk | right; you seem to not have the same for the pet |
| 00:39.57 | ckknight | working on [Zone] now |
| 00:40.46 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Range * r41162 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: same thing but don't screw up encoding this time (hopefully) |
| 00:44.09 | mitch1 | did CIA die? the commit hangs :( |
| 00:44.37 | hyperChipmunk | svn did |
| 00:45.00 | mitch1 | superb |
| 00:45.18 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41163 10DogTag-1.0/ (DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua DogTag-1.0.toc): DogTag-1.0: merging in [Range] support |
| 00:45.39 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 00:46.03 | nymbia | [Range]? O.o |
| 00:46.06 | nymbia | that's hot |
| 00:46.39 | kergoth | using rangecheck-1.0? |
| 00:47.29 | kergoth | booored |
| 00:47.42 | nymbia | what now? |
| 00:47.48 | hyperChipmunk | tell me if your bulkmail rules fixed |
| 00:47.52 | hyperChipmunk | slacker |
| 00:47.59 | Cryect | haha |
| 00:48.00 | nymbia | bah, i need freakin irc at work |
| 00:48.04 | nymbia | i miss every damn thing |
| 00:48.11 | mitch1 | :) |
| 00:48.11 | Cryect | setup an SSH session |
| 00:48.12 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:48.13 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r41164 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
| 00:49.19 | mitch1 | ckk: I didn't tough the threat thing, so fix that if you wish ;) |
| 00:49.44 | mitch1 | I'm off to bed, work tomorrow and it's 3AM almost :( |
| 00:50.03 | mitch1 | I'll update the DogTag wiki tomorrow @work ;) |
| 00:50.14 | ckknight | nymbia: what'd you miss? |
| 00:50.17 | Psylo | Hi |
| 00:50.20 | mitch1 | seeya |
| 00:50.25 | NeoTron | I run ssh from home in a screen via ssh . works fine |
| 00:50.39 | Psylo | i don't understand how to create another profile with BT3 ... |
| 00:50.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41165 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 00:50.42 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - make [Guild] show a pet's owner's name. |
| 00:50.42 | CIA-22 | - added tag [Zone] |
| 00:51.49 | Psylo | I go in profile -> other -> i choose a name, this name appears in the choice menu profiles so i choose it, i modify it but it modify my character profile too :/ |
| 00:52.29 | nymbia | ckknight: just new addons and libraries and features ;) |
| 00:52.33 | Psylo | someone can help me ? |
| 00:52.40 | ckknight | nymbia: I made a tooltip addon |
| 00:52.45 | mikma | Psylo: no :( |
| 00:53.06 | nymbia | ckknight: yeah i saw this morning and just checked it out to try :D |
| 00:53.07 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 00:54.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41166 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add zone. |
| 00:54.28 | Psylo | when i modify a profile, it modify others profiles too, all my profiles are the same .. |
| 00:54.31 | Psylo | wtf ? |
| 00:54.38 | Antiarc | So, I got home to a nice little surprise today |
| 00:54.43 | Antiarc | I had my car's title in the mail |
| 00:54.53 | Antiarc | Turns out I paid it off like a year ahead of what I thought I would |
| 00:54.53 | ckknight | Psylo: it's probably not using profiles correctly, then |
| 00:55.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: neat. |
| 00:55.15 | Kaelten | ok, I have a list of the top addons downloaded for the month |
| 00:55.27 | Kebinusan | Antiarc, any chance of getting a hide icon option in omen |
| 00:55.27 | hyperChipmunk | wtf happened to Threat? |
| 00:55.40 | Psylo | so i can't do my heal profile with BT3 :/// |
| 00:55.40 | Antiarc | Kebinusan: There should be one already |
| 00:55.45 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Elaborate? |
| 00:56.07 | hyperChipmunk | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:439: attempt to index field 'BuffModifiers' (a nil value) |
| 00:56.18 | hyperChipmunk | Threat-1.0-41153 (Threat-1.0):203: bad argument #1 to 'setmetatable' (table expected, got nil) |
| 00:56.29 | hyperChipmunk | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:481: attempt to index field 'DebuffModifiers' (a nil value) |
| 00:56.53 | Psylo | nevcairiel the BT3 profiles system don't work, can you fix it ? |
| 00:57.11 | ckknight | Kaelten: kay? |
| 00:57.15 | ckknight | Kaelten: what's it say? |
| 00:57.21 | Antiarc | Did Babble-Spell get reverted? |
| 00:57.22 | Kaelten | sct owns |
| 00:57.49 | Kaelten | although its not 100% accurate since it goes by zip file downloaded |
| 00:57.54 | hyperChipmunk | Threat-1.0.lua:352: AceeComm-2.0: You can only call `SetCommPrefix' before calling `RegisterMemoizations'. |
| 00:57.58 | Kaelten | and the various versions of tsome of the others may out rank it |
| 00:58.10 | hyperChipmunk | lol, that's cuz SCT never changes |
| 00:58.15 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 00:58.16 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Probably a cascading issue |
| 00:58.24 | Kaelten | ya sct has some 60k downloads this month so far |
| 00:58.28 | hyperChipmunk | it goes on |
| 00:58.39 | Kaelten | I see one version of fubar with 20k |
| 00:58.43 | Kaelten | and another with 28 |
| 00:58.54 | Kaelten | and another with 19 |
| 00:59.05 | Kaelten | so there is a good chance it actually out ranks sct |
| 00:59.12 | ckknight | I want a dollar from each of my users. |
| 00:59.12 | hyperChipmunk | that's heartening, at least |
| 00:59.17 | Kaelten | but that gives an unfair advantage to those addons that updates more often |
| 00:59.31 | Kaelten | ckknight: thats fine I get a penny for each file they download of yours |
| 00:59.33 | hyperChipmunk | yea, which is why download counts mean nothing |
| 00:59.40 | Antiarc | How many DLs does Omen have? *grin* |
| 00:59.42 | Hjalte | Some users update multiple time a day, making the download count higher for the addons they use |
| 00:59.44 | Gngsk | ckknight, I'll give you a dollar once, but not every time I run WAU |
| 00:59.45 | Psylo | i'm surprised to be the first to decover very important bugs for an add on ... |
| 00:59.54 | ckknight | Kaelten: that'd be fine :-P |
| 00:59.55 | Kaelten | Antiarc: not in the top 100 |
| 01:00.01 | Antiarc | :( |
| 01:00.02 | hyperChipmunk | burn |
| 01:00.10 | Kaelten | ckknight: if I got a pennie a download |
| 01:00.15 | Kaelten | I'd get 20-40k a day |
| 01:00.18 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: bigwigs? |
| 01:00.21 | *** join/#wowace Evenue (n=chatzill@c-68-62-50-227.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:00.25 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-69-37.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 01:00.27 | Psylo | ckknight you think delete the bt3 config file can solve the problem , |
| 01:00.31 | Psylo | ? |
| 01:00.39 | Antiarc | Kaelten: You should set up WAU with micropayments so it costs $0.01 to update |
| 01:00.44 | Antiarc | :) |
| 01:00.52 | Kaelten | Antiarc: lol |
| 01:00.54 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Make sure Babble is up to date |
| 01:00.56 | Kaelten | hell how about a buck a week |
| 01:01.05 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 01:01.14 | NightHawkTheSane | a penny an update is expensive for micropayments. :P |
| 01:01.17 | Kaelten | Antiarc: threat-1.0 is #8 |
| 01:01.38 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: givf bigwigs stats plix :p |
| 01:01.43 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Overall? o.0 |
| 01:01.45 | hyperChipmunk | cuz it's friggin linked to everything now |
| 01:01.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41167 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfixings. |
| 01:01.47 | Kaelten | Antiarc: ya |
| 01:01.50 | Antiarc | Holy carps |
| 01:01.52 | Antiarc | How many downloads? |
| 01:01.55 | Kaelten | at least for that particular version |
| 01:02.03 | Kaelten | looking for bigwigs |
| 01:02.13 | hyperChipmunk | cuz threat cashes in on PitBull, Violation, Omen, ... |
| 01:02.24 | Kaelten | threat-1.0-r39878 got 33.7k downloads |
| 01:02.29 | Psylo | Antiarc and how many will cost the money transfert from europe for 0.01 $ ? :) |
| 01:02.33 | Chompers | ahahaha wow |
| 01:02.50 | Antiarc | Holy shit. |
| 01:02.51 | Antiarc | Wow. |
| 01:02.54 | Kaelten | problem is too many fubar addons |
| 01:03.18 | Roartindon | Antiarc: I guess it shows how strongly people want to find something better than ktm |
| 01:03.40 | Psylo | someone is using BT3 ? |
| 01:03.41 | Antiarc | I guess. |
| 01:03.46 | Chompers | Threat-1.0 by itsself? |
| 01:03.47 | ckknight | Kaelten: hey, what's PitBull at? |
| 01:03.51 | Chompers | or inside multiple addons |
| 01:04.13 | Kaelten | by itself |
| 01:04.20 | Chompers | wow. |
| 01:04.21 | Kaelten | bigwigs isn't in the top 100 |
| 01:04.24 | Chompers | :O |
| 01:04.38 | Chompers | what's #1 ? |
| 01:04.39 | Kaelten | due to too many fubar apps |
| 01:04.43 | ckknight | Chompers: SCT |
| 01:04.45 | Kaelten | sct according to this |
| 01:04.49 | Chompers | no fucking way |
| 01:04.55 | Kaelten | its slanted to addons that don't change often |
| 01:04.58 | Chompers | i don't believe you....SCT ? |
| 01:05.14 | Kaelten | since it counts his on individual versions |
| 01:05.23 | Roartindon | Kaelten: Is this list available online anywhere? |
| 01:05.34 | NightHawkTheSane | its a breakdown by file name, so addons that dont update often have the same filename downlaoded repeatedly, compared to addons that update often and so have many different file names. |
| 01:05.34 | hyperChipmunk | Psylo: talk to nevcairiel |
| 01:05.45 | Kaelten | I do know bigwigs was in the top 15 or so for today |
| 01:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | (at least i assume its a breakdown by file name, i could be off) |
| 01:05.49 | Chompers | we need an addon that tracks the downloads from wowace, it can use graphlib |
| 01:06.01 | Kaelten | 37)19326/WowAceUpdater/latest.txt |
| 01:06.05 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:06.12 | NightHawkTheSane | nice. |
| 01:06.19 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: :/ |
| 01:06.42 | Antiarc | Kaelten: It'd be really neat to have an auto-updated top-100 page |
| 01:06.52 | Antiarc | Or maybe even like a top 25% of each category |
| 01:07.08 | Chompers | i wonder of people still use titan bar instead of fubar |
| 01:07.39 | Chompers | *if |
| 01:07.50 | Kaelten | I might be able to set something up :) |
| 01:08.09 | Jaxon | Drop off the revisions to get an accurate addon total. |
| 01:08.21 | hyperChipmunk | that doesn't work either |
| 01:08.28 | hyperChipmunk | because it weights it the other way |
| 01:08.40 | hyperChipmunk | those numbers will never be close to accurate |
| 01:08.42 | harl|WoW | man, the armory sucks -.- |
| 01:10.20 | Antiarc | Kaelten: How are you determining these numbers? apache log parsing? |
| 01:10.28 | Kaelten | Antiarc: yes |
| 01:10.33 | sylvanaar | there is no way to really know now because the updaters precalc what they will download |
| 01:10.54 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r41168 10beql/ (beql.toc localization-ko.lua): beql - add koKR locals |
| 01:11.19 | Kaelten | its kinda crazy |
| 01:11.59 | sylvanaar | so addons which contain an actively updated external will show high activitry |
| 01:12.18 | trh_ | yeah.. but it shouldn't be a big problem to create a complete stats file |
| 01:12.27 | trh_ | and write a merging program that merges by addon |
| 01:12.35 | trh_ | rather than have every download for itself |
| 01:12.42 | Kebinusan | antiarc I guess whats missing is the hide fubar plugin option |
| 01:12.48 | trh_ | parsing like 9000 lines shouldn't be too bad, even with php |
| 01:12.49 | Kebinusan | to get rid of the thing on fubar completely |
| 01:13.26 | sylvanaar | all that will tell you is how frequently an addon is updated relative to the number of times it changed - thats all you can really know |
| 01:13.39 | Kaelten | ya its fun but its completely useless |
| 01:14.00 | Kaelten | only thing I can think that would be nice is to see how many uniques downloaded a addon in the last 30 days |
| 01:15.11 | trh_ | browser stats etc. are also interesting |
| 01:15.26 | trh_ | and graphs with the downloads over time |
| 01:15.34 | trh_ | like maximum users at x 'o clock |
| 01:15.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Being able to see the number of unique downloaders per addon would actually be interesting and vaguely useful, I think. |
| 01:16.07 | hyperChipmunk | that would be the only useful thing |
| 01:16.38 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r41169 10Prat/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Prat: add koKR locals, add ChatHead Module |
| 01:16.46 | kenlyric | find the IP that clicks "update all addons" the most during the day :) |
| 01:16.49 | Kaelten | anywho heading home |
| 01:17.26 | Kaelten | bbiab |
| 01:17.27 | sylvanaar | you need number of uniqe downloaders + number of times an addon changed + number of addons which changed |
| 01:18.18 | mikma | beql doesn't work with Lightheaded :( |
| 01:18.25 | cladhaire | he's working on it |
| 01:19.26 | Adys | Mikk my dear.. are you there |
| 01:21.01 | trh_ | going to bed.. good night |
| 01:21.02 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41170 10beql/tracker.lua: beql - Changed the inset of zone titles to better difference them |
| 01:22.30 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r41171 10Epeen/EpeenLibs/Epeen-2.0/Epeen-2.0.lua: Epeen - Only unregister events if enabled, to fix the error: Cannot unregister event "CHAT_MSG_SAY". |
| 01:23.21 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: are you aware of issue with bars constantly moving in omen? like the threat value for somebody keeps switching back and forth between two values |
| 01:23.30 | sylvanaar | whats that |
| 01:23.37 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Yeah, thought I fixed it last night. Are you seeing it in an up-to-date version? |
| 01:23.57 | Arrowmaster | omen or threat? |
| 01:24.07 | hypetech | so...buffalo2 made me nuke a flask yesterday |
| 01:24.18 | hypetech | the icons = tooltips = actual buff are still WAAAAY off |
| 01:24.23 | Arrowmaster | 41136 omen, 41087 threat |
| 01:24.32 | Arrowmaster | dont know if other peoples versions effect it |
| 01:24.57 | Antiarc | Omen |
| 01:25.00 | Antiarc | It shouldn't |
| 01:25.04 | Antiarc | Hrm, that's pretty up to date |
| 01:25.09 | Antiarc | I'll check it out some more |
| 01:25.26 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@157.157.216.175) |
| 01:25.30 | Arrowmaster | any idea whats doing it? |
| 01:25.57 | *** join/#wowace Health (n=thecooki@c-041ae655.132-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 01:26.14 | Antiarc | Yeah, global vs target threat updates |
| 01:26.52 | Arrowmaster | im seeing it with warriors and like a 40k threat difference with like 200k threat |
| 01:26.56 | Arrowmaster | afk mag |
| 01:29.59 | *** join/#wowace krunk- (n=james@cpe-76-80-0-10.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 01:30.30 | krunk- | I'm on a quest for a good warlock addon. acolyte2 doesn't work and necronomicon2 bugs out on me. What do the locks here use? |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41172 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fixed warning stuff. Warnings now work properly. You probably want them off if you're a tank. |
| 01:33.14 | Funkeh` | warnings? |
| 01:33.28 | Kinkx | You're high on threat warning I guess |
| 01:33.43 | Kemayo | krunk-: I get by with just Quart'z target-dot timers. |
| 01:34.12 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41173 10AbacusLib/ (AbacusLib.toc embeds.xml): AbacusLib: use embeds.xml |
| 01:36.16 | krunk- | Kemayo: mostly what I wanted was just pet, stones, summons, etc pop outs and such to reduce ui clutter |
| 01:36.59 | krunk- | I'm using generalized debuff timers for mah dots |
| 01:37.03 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41174 10BanzaiLib/ (BanzaiLib.toc embeds.xml): BanzaiLib: use embeds.xml |
| 01:37.08 | Kemayo | krunk-: Oh, that stuff I just wind up having on carefully arranged bartender bars. |
| 01:37.56 | durcyn | krunk-: what are you using for pop-out bars? |
| 01:38.08 | durcyn | god damn i miss Sprocket. |
| 01:38.12 | krunk- | I was using necronomicon2...but it's bugged out since patch |
| 01:38.31 | krunk- | so I might be stuck with necrosis...kinda bloated though |
| 01:38.40 | durcyn | oh. try Henge if you want those sort |
| 01:38.57 | durcyn | fuck knows if it works lately, though. |
| 01:39.23 | krunk- | durcyn: cool, looking for it |
| 01:39.51 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41175 10CrayonLib/ (CrayonLib.toc embeds.xml): CrayonLib: use embeds.xml |
| 01:41.23 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: just a warrior with threat 41153 just had a ton of global threat on mag when he unbanished then it went away shortly after |
| 01:41.29 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41176 10Deformat/ (Deformat.toc embeds.xml): Deformat: use embeds.xml |
| 01:41.38 | Arrowmaster | but it was there for atleast 5 seconds |
| 01:41.54 | krunk- | that was the one drawback to my lock. so many darned spells to manage |
| 01:43.16 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41177 10DewdropLib/ (DewdropLib.toc embeds.xml): DewdropLib: use embeds.xml |
| 01:46.37 | stavmar | i am sure this has been asked before, but in gruul our shatter can kill our fellow attackers, but violation calculates that into the DPS, is there a way to account for this? my fruid has teh highest DPS lol |
| 01:46.57 | krunk- | hm, errors with henge too |
| 01:48.18 | krunk- | they should make a testing branch for each mod project |
| 01:48.37 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41178 10DogTag-1.0/ (AceLibrary/ DogTag-1.0.toc embeds.xml): DogTag-1.0: use embeds.xml |
| 01:49.10 | hyperChipmunk | isn't that what the trunk is for? O_o |
| 01:49.28 | Funkeh` | indeed hyperChipmunk |
| 01:50.11 | Kemayo | I believe that we take the broad approach of claiming that if you want stability you should stick to official releases on other sites. |
| 01:50.17 | krunk- | then what's stable? |
| 01:50.26 | hyperChipmunk | nothing |
| 01:50.31 | hyperChipmunk | nothing I write, anyway >8P |
| 01:50.48 | hyperChipmunk | I think that'd be a sign of the Apocalypse |
| 01:50.52 | krunk- | then they should make a stable >.< |
| 01:50.54 | krunk- | :P |
| 01:51.24 | krunk- | I can't find a lot of the addons on other sites except wowace ;) |
| 01:51.33 | rophy | the current trunk is something to be used with updater for distributing addons. |
| 01:52.05 | rophy | or at least it looks like that to me. |
| 01:52.07 | Funkeh` | rophy: updating is the players responsibility, if they get errors its their fault for updating |
| 01:53.03 | rophy | Funkeh`: even that said, when some people wants to not use the acesvn trunk and use WoWI to distribute the stable release, users cry about not being able to one click update the mod. |
| 01:53.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41179 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (. FuBar_GroupFu.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_GroupFu: use embeds.xml |
| 01:53.30 | krunk- | for some reason lock addons are always broken...I always end up fussing with various options until I just play my rogue :P |
| 01:53.32 | Funkeh` | well they can cry more when their mods don't work |
| 01:53.33 | *** join/#wowace Peoii (n=Peoii@pool-68-238-138-74.sea.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:53.57 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41180 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail2.toc BulkMailFu.lua): |
| 01:53.57 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 01:53.57 | CIA-22 | - FuBar plugin settings should now save correctly |
| 01:54.20 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41181 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMail2Inbox.toc BulkMailFu.lua): |
| 01:54.20 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 01:54.20 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.27 | hyperChipmunk | Galka: ^^ |
| 01:54.39 | Galka | thanks |
| 01:54.47 | hyperChipmunk | no guarantee |
| 01:54.55 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not sure exactly what the problem is |
| 01:55.02 | hyperChipmunk | but i mucked with it until it worked |
| 01:55.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Right, so, Lady Vashj . . . Those Striders freaking hurt. |
| 01:55.23 | *** join/#wowace zwiep`` (n=zwiep@d54C35283.access.telenet.be) |
| 01:55.33 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41182 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_PerformanceFu: use embeds.xml |
| 01:55.51 | ZealotOnAStick | what does embeds.xml do that's advantageous? |
| 01:55.52 | hyperChipmunk | vashj has tallstriders? that's overpowered |
| 01:56.21 | Kemayo | I like midsummer. It's fun doing the runs into the other faction's capitols. |
| 01:56.36 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@cpe-74-71-116-245.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 01:56.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 01:56.59 | Funkeh` | cladhaire: you bought ckknight's connection? |
| 01:57.09 | krunk- | no errors on load with necrosis |
| 01:57.16 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick well first thing it does is it organizes the toc references |
| 01:57.24 | cladhaire | i've been on all night |
| 01:57.26 | cladhaire | he would have d/c'd at least five times |
| 01:57.38 | ckknight | no, I fixed my cord |
| 01:57.45 | krunk- | seems to be working :) |
| 01:57.51 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick then the updaters can just empty that file (or even the zip script) |
| 01:59.33 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41183 10GratuityLib/ (GratuityLib.toc embeds.xml): GratuityLib: use embeds.xml |
| 01:59.42 | rophy | http://ace.pastey.net/59971 |
| 01:59.44 | sylvanaar | modifying toc's is bad business also this lets the author control what can be modified post-install |
| 01:59.54 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-17-131.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 02:00.14 | *** join/#wowace ub3rst4r (n=a@d66-222-232-135.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 02:00.19 | rophy | for those using WoWUIUpdater, I have updated the clean TOC python sript to comment out 'embeds.xml'. |
| 02:00.27 | rophy | in case anyone interested |
| 02:00.59 | sylvanaar | you can just replace the files with an "empty |
| 02:00.59 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 02:01.09 | Funkeh` | just make sure you only doing it if they are using embeds ;) |
| 02:01.23 | Funkeh` | not using* |
| 02:01.37 | rophy | ya, make sure that yourself. |
| 02:01.38 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-129-181.citizip.com) |
| 02:03.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41184 10JostleLib/ (JostleLib.toc embeds.xml): JostleLib: use embeds.xml |
| 02:04.14 | rophy | wth are libraries also using embeds.xml? |
| 02:04.27 | rophy | doesn't the toc have one file only? |
| 02:04.36 | Wobwork | you'd hope |
| 02:04.59 | Funkeh` | rophy: yes it does, so? |
| 02:06.07 | sylvanaar | you replace the embeds.xml with a file that contains this: |
| 02:06.09 | sylvanaar | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/ ..\FrameXML\UI.xsd"></Ui> |
| 02:06.16 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.48) |
| 02:06.43 | rophy | I personally think I should comment out things, not change them, in an external script. |
| 02:06.49 | todd | has anybody had problems with recent versions of WAU? the window isn't showing up.. it just sits in my taskbar |
| 02:07.00 | sylvanaar | thats the point of embeds.xml |
| 02:07.24 | sylvanaar | todd #wau |
| 02:07.38 | todd | :o |
| 02:07.41 | todd | had no idea that existed |
| 02:07.42 | todd | thanks |
| 02:07.42 | rophy | but I cannot see what were listed in embeds.xml if it's replaced with the empty one? |
| 02:07.49 | sylvanaar | you dont need to |
| 02:08.18 | rophy | I dont need to, but I can if I chose to comment out it in toc instead of changing the file. |
| 02:08.54 | Funkeh` | rophy: and thats why god invented the X-embeds line |
| 02:09.06 | rophy | Funhek`: any disadvantage for commenting it out? |
| 02:09.13 | rophy | I'm not asking WAU to change |
| 02:09.28 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41185 10SharedMediaLib/ (SharedMediaLib.toc embeds.xml): SharedMediaLib: use embeds.xml |
| 02:09.30 | sylvanaar | the author controls its contents its there to be deleted |
| 02:09.33 | rophy | just that I dont see the point to not comment out files in the python script. |
| 02:09.36 | Funkeh` | rophy: not as far as i know |
| 02:09.42 | *** join/#wowace ven (i=ven@i59F5708C.versanet.de) |
| 02:09.49 | Funkeh` | i suppose you can use either |
| 02:09.53 | sylvanaar | but commenting out works |
| 02:10.22 | rophy | hmm |
| 02:11.01 | Kirkburn | todd, dunno if you've had it answered, but I had the same. Right-click maximise |
| 02:11.34 | todd | just realized that.. but I don't like it so big, it's just off my screen when it's not maximized |
| 02:11.50 | Kirkburn | Close it, reload, should be just large but not maximised |
| 02:11.52 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41186 10TabletLib/ (TabletLib.toc embeds.xml): TabletLib: use embeds.xml |
| 02:12.09 | todd | awesome, thanks kirkburn =) |
| 02:12.16 | Kirkburn | You should be able to resize it again (recalling from memory, hope it works :) |
| 02:13.40 | *** join/#wowace twinight (n=hunter@207-118-24-202.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 02:14.02 | *** join/#wowace Axodious (n=4b@modemcable050.16-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:14.49 | twinight | ok, probably a retard question here, but i just started playing with pitbull today, and after i got over the initial froth and glee at trying to even figure out a use for target's target's target... i'm finding myself completely unable to enable portriats |
| 02:15.09 | hyperChipmunk | refl |
| 02:15.13 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41187 10Talismonger-3.0/ (Talismonger-3.0.toc embeds.xml): Talismonger-3.0: use embeds.xml |
| 02:15.20 | Kirkburn | twinight, make sure the module is enabled |
| 02:15.23 | hyperChipmunk | s/refl/rofl/ |
| 02:16.06 | twinight | man, if that's it... |
| 02:16.11 | twinight | hold on, i need to dig out my shame box |
| 02:16.27 | twinight | nope, it is enabled |
| 02:16.34 | Kirkburn | In game? |
| 02:16.47 | twinight | ie: addons at char select? |
| 02:16.54 | Kirkburn | Nah, from the Pitbull options |
| 02:17.19 | twinight | i guess i'm just not seeing it |
| 02:17.30 | hyperChipmunk | rightclick the doggie, Modules, Portraits |
| 02:17.35 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41188 10TinyTip/ (. TinyTip.toc embeds.xml): TinyTip: use embeds.xml |
| 02:17.58 | Kirkburn | If it's enabled there you should see it as an option under <Other> for each UF |
| 02:18.13 | Jaxon | Does the default UI show how many points your arena rating is worth now? |
| 02:18.19 | twinight | wow, alright. i need to go find the shame box |
| 02:18.23 | twinight | thanks kirk |
| 02:18.26 | Wobwork | It's over in the corner |
| 02:18.32 | Kirkburn | twinight, hehe |
| 02:18.49 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:18.58 | Kirkburn | What on earth is Alterac Swiss doing in a Fel Iron Box in Tuurem |
| 02:19.01 | twinight | i'm still just sort of taken aback by everything i can do |
| 02:19.32 | Wobwork | Kirkburn: Aging |
| 02:19.44 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41189 10TinyTipExtras/ (TinyTipExtras.toc embeds.xml): TinyTipExtras: use embeds.xml |
| 02:21.05 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41190 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipOptions.toc embeds.xml): TinyTipOptions: use embeds.xml |
| 02:21.09 | Tem|AFK | ckknight, 2 thinks |
| 02:21.18 | Tem|AFK | 1) I hadn't set purl's dongle keyword |
| 02:21.24 | Tem|AFK | 2) Don't touch things that don't belong to you |
| 02:21.29 | Tem|AFK | purl, no dongle is An integrated library with the goal of providing an addon framework as lightweight as possible, putting the burden on authors to implement most things they should be implementing themselves. You can get more information at http://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle |
| 02:21.29 | purl | okay, Tem|AFK |
| 02:21.29 | ckknight | oh, thought you did *shrug* |
| 02:21.36 | ckknight | don't know what (2) refers to, though |
| 02:22.05 | ckknight | what does (2) refer to? |
| 02:22.36 | ckknight | cause, I mean, Thrae changed purl's dongle definition, not me |
| 02:22.55 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:23.19 | hyperChipmunk | nymbia: would you mind adding a function on clicking an item in manufac as a shortcut for Make 1? |
| 02:23.21 | Tem|AFK | well, I misread |
| 02:23.26 | hyperChipmunk | i think that'd be spiffy |
| 02:23.27 | Tem|AFK | so you can ignore 2 |
| 02:23.34 | *** join/#wowace AnduinLothar (n=AnduinLo@WoWUIDev/Cosmos/AnduinLothar) |
| 02:23.38 | Tem|AFK | well, no you can't |
| 02:23.40 | Tem|AFK | just like |
| 02:23.43 | Tem|AFK | you didn't do it |
| 02:23.45 | Tem|AFK | this time |
| 02:23.51 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:23.52 | ckknight | ... |
| 02:23.59 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:23.59 | AnduinLothar | sylvanaar: ping |
| 02:24.08 | hyperChipmunk | purl, dongle is not as tasty as pizza |
| 02:24.08 | purl | ...but dongle is already something else... |
| 02:24.30 | ckknight | gotta do is also |
| 02:24.34 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41191 10TouristLib/ (TouristLib.toc embeds.xml): TouristLib: use embeds.xml |
| 02:24.40 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41192 10beql/ (beql.lua tracker.lua): beql - fixed hide completed objectives |
| 02:24.44 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 02:25.48 | Kemayo | purl, Dongle is naughty and not suited for polite conversation. |
| 02:25.49 | purl | ...but dongle is already something else... |
| 02:26.14 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar pong |
| 02:26.20 | *** join/#wowace Tuller_ (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 02:26.28 | hyperChipmunk | purl, Dongle impregnated my sister against her will |
| 02:26.33 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r41193 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): Incubator: Timers are now saved through a reloadui or relogging. |
| 02:26.38 | AnduinLothar | any idea why those "Tablet-2.0: You cannot check tablet with an unregistered parent frame." errors are generated? |
| 02:26.53 | AnduinLothar | asside fromt he obvious |
| 02:26.54 | hyperChipmunk | check? or attach? |
| 02:27.08 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41194 10VersionChecker/ (VersionChecker.toc embeds.xml): VersionChecker: use embeds.xml |
| 02:27.32 | AnduinLothar | that's the error i was told of. I haven't reproduced myself |
| 02:29.19 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41195 10XArt/ (XArt.toc embeds.xml): XArt: use embeds.xml |
| 02:30.03 | hyperChipmunk | usually means they hid a fubar plugin with the tooltip still detached |
| 02:30.13 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:30.41 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r41196 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: KingOfTheJungle : - nil error on line 494 |
| 02:31.00 | hyperChipmunk | then tried to re-attach it but there was nothing there to which it could be detached |
| 02:31.17 | hyperChipmunk | attached* |
| 02:31.34 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41197 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (Cartographer_Herbalism.toc embeds.xml): Cartographer_Herbalism: use embeds.xml |
| 02:32.52 | *** join/#wowace zwiep` (n=zwiep@d54C35283.access.telenet.be) |
| 02:32.57 | hyperChipmunk | but that's 'attach', I've never seen the 'check' error message |
| 02:33.38 | ckknight | oh noes, Funkeh is upgrading all those mods without explicit written permission from their authors! whatever will we do? |
| 02:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | ah, that's if you do an IsAttached when it's been unregistered/disabled |
| 02:34.35 | Thrae | I thought that was the intention of the WoWAceSVN, ckknight. |
| 02:34.38 | kergoth | quick, lynch him! |
| 02:35.06 | AnduinLothar | sylvanaar: think you can find one of those functions that makes tablet error and figure out what frame is calling it? |
| 02:35.08 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41198 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/ (. FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_DurabilityFu: use embeds.xml |
| 02:35.12 | ckknight | Thrae: yea, trying to prove a point to Kaelten |
| 02:35.56 | Funkeh` | ~pancake hyperChipmunk |
| 02:35.57 | purl | ACTION slaps hyperChipmunk with a soggy pancake for playing with the food. |
| 02:36.03 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 02:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | i hope he does my addons |
| 02:36.31 | hyperChipmunk | i'm too lazy for that crap |
| 02:36.32 | Funkeh` | probably not |
| 02:36.50 | AnduinLothar | hyperChipmunk: i think my addon is calling other addon's get functions and possibly not passign the write handler as 'self' |
| 02:36.55 | Funkeh` | my goal was all the lod addons, which turned into all my addons, which now turned into the top 30 according to kaelten |
| 02:37.03 | hyperChipmunk | that's possible |
| 02:37.09 | AnduinLothar | right* |
| 02:37.28 | sylvanaar | the handlers are stored in the table too |
| 02:37.41 | sylvanaar | look for .handler as you traverse it |
| 02:37.50 | AnduinLothar | right... the question is, if it's not passign the handler then what IS is passing |
| 02:37.51 | hyperChipmunk | there's a field for that |
| 02:37.51 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 02:38.06 | AnduinLothar | i know, it should be passign it correctly |
| 02:38.06 | hyperChipmunk | self by default I think |
| 02:38.39 | sylvanaar | the addon which called AceConsole:RegisterChatCommand |
| 02:38.48 | sylvanaar | with that options table |
| 02:39.06 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41199 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (. FuBar_MoneyFu.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_MoneyFu: use embeds.xml |
| 02:39.09 | AnduinLothar | ok... but it's calling t.hander[t.get](t.handler) is t.hander:[t.get]() even valid syntax? |
| 02:39.20 | nymbia | Funkeh`: whyfor? |
| 02:39.31 | nymbia | Funkeh`: (in general, not just in that case) |
| 02:39.32 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 02:39.36 | *** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 02:39.40 | Funkeh` | nymbia: turns me on |
| 02:39.45 | nymbia | Funkeh`: does WAU handle em smart yet? |
| 02:39.50 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 02:39.54 | Funkeh` | blanks em |
| 02:39.55 | nymbia | cool |
| 02:40.20 | *** part/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-185-214.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:40.27 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-185-214.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:40.45 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:40.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 02:41.12 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: of course it is |
| 02:41.25 | AnduinLothar | hmm, never seen it before |
| 02:41.27 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: can ya link me the top 50 in /msg helps with this embeds.xml thing |
| 02:41.45 | Kaelten | a hu u? |
| 02:41.50 | Funkeh` | most downloaded |
| 02:42.02 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41200 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Mining.toc embeds.xml): Cartographer_Mining: use embeds.xml |
| 02:42.19 | *** part/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-185-214.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:42.23 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-185-214.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:42.35 | sylvanaar | its not valid syntax |
| 02:43.21 | AnduinLothar | i know table:func() is. but if you have the func name as a string... |
| 02:43.22 | *** join/#wowace Nimble (n=Nimble_R@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 02:43.41 | AnduinLothar | i dont think table:[func]() is legit |
| 02:43.59 | sylvanaar | its not |
| 02:44.20 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41201 10FuBar_ClockFu/ (. FuBar_ClockFu.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_ClockFu: use embeds.xml |
| 02:44.24 | Thrae | What is embeds.xml for? |
| 02:44.39 | Tuller_ | racing stripes |
| 02:45.02 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@adsl-76-226-84-102.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:46.02 | ulic | is WAU gonna use it for dependancy checking? |
| 02:46.29 | AnduinLothar | it's for faster loading if the files are un-embedded |
| 02:46.39 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41202 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth.toc embeds.xml): MobHealth3: use embeds.xml |
| 02:47.25 | AnduinLothar | something, i might add, even Sea has been doing ever since it started embedding :P |
| 02:48.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ~~~~ |
| 02:48.34 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT nighthawkthesane!!! |
| 02:48.40 | Kemayo | It is my unbiased opinion that the Alliance need a graveyard closer to Orgrimmar. |
| 02:48.52 | durcyn | ulic: no, WAU uses X-Embeds for dep checks |
| 02:48.54 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41203 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc embeds.xml): ag_UnitFrames: use embeds.xml |
| 02:49.10 | durcyn | Peoii: check out CowTip, it might meet your needs. |
| 02:49.19 | NightHawkTheSane | that reminds me, i gotta log in and do the midsummer crap |
| 02:49.25 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 02:49.32 | Peoii | durcyn: Eh, I've liked tinytip for so long, I'm very interested in the next version ;) |
| 02:49.45 | syeren | ckk, regarding your Aura display system, I have a question :p |
| 02:49.46 | Funkeh` | durcyn: CowTip has nothing to do with tinytip |
| 02:49.48 | Thrae | Peoii: The version up on my SVN works fine for formating and positioning, which is all it has now. |
| 02:49.59 | ckknight | syeren: k? |
| 02:50.00 | Peoii | Thrae: Nice, thanks. |
| 02:50.01 | Thrae | s/now/right now/ |
| 02:50.03 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:50.10 | Jaxon | So if I'm not using embeds, I can delete embeds.xml or is it a "WAU" only thing. |
| 02:50.13 | durcyn | they're both tooltip addons. there's something said for being open to alternatives. |
| 02:50.28 | *** join/#wowace zwiep`` (n=zwiep@d54C35283.access.telenet.be) |
| 02:50.30 | syeren | Just let me upload a screenshot :) |
| 02:50.38 | Thrae | durcyn: There's something to be said for collaboration in a modular environment ;) |
| 02:51.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: it's not a wau only thing, its actually used by wow to load the embeds if you have them. It just allows wau to do some extra magic to make it a bit cleaner for those who use it to disembed. If you're running disembedded, you can really leave it or nuke it and it wont affect too much |
| 02:51.36 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 02:51.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 02:51.40 | Funkeh` | Jaxon: yes, but you are much better off jsut grabbing the latest wau |
| 02:51.42 | durcyn | okay, whatever, you've got your own flavor of kool-aid to drink i see |
| 02:51.48 | Peoii | See, I'm a retardedly loyal customer. TinyTip has served me well for a very very long time. Until there's something so greatly compelling about something different? I don't really change... Hell, my last 4 cars have come from the same company ;) |
| 02:51.51 | Jaxon | Funkeh`: WTB WAU for OSX. |
| 02:51.59 | Funkeh` | Jaxon: wau2 soon |
| 02:52.09 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, if it works. |
| 02:52.11 | Jaxon | Not Java though? :D |
| 02:52.25 | NightHawkTheSane | I haven't gotten the beta to work. |
| 02:52.26 | AnduinLothar | Jaxon: I second that |
| 02:52.26 | durcyn | i've also used tinytip forever, and before that tipbuddy. one worked better than the other, so i switch |
| 02:52.43 | durcyn | anyway, you're welcome for being made aware there's an alternative, you don't have to use it. jesus. |
| 02:52.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: l2perl/php/ruby/python/languageofchoice and write your own. :) |
| 02:52.57 | Jaxon | Oh, so embeds.xml is supported by the WoW client. Thats interesting, I don't remember seeing that in the upcoming features thread. |
| 02:53.07 | AnduinLothar | I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to install the gui dependancy for the old wau. it wouldn't compile and didn't have a binary.. |
| 02:53.17 | durcyn | Jaxon: no, it's referenced explicitly in the toc |
| 02:53.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: its not anyting special. the addon's .toc just lists "embeds.xml" is all :P |
| 02:53.40 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:53.50 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar you mean .net 2.0? |
| 02:53.52 | ulic | is there a library that will scan specific bag/bank/equipment items and report back a specified stat, say Agility? |
| 02:53.54 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 02:54.03 | AnduinLothar | .net has a binary on mono |
| 02:54.06 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 02:54.09 | AnduinLothar | i mean the gui tools |
| 02:54.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41204 10FuBar_BagFu/ (. FuBar_BagFu.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_BagFu: use embeds.xml |
| 02:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | isnt mono only equivalent to .NET 1.1 though? (tangent, yes, but meh)( |
| 02:54.24 | AnduinLothar | whatever the xplatform thing was |
| 02:54.48 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 02:54.59 | AnduinLothar | basic's cool. er Karl... |
| 02:55.00 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane all you do is use the java control panel and say upgrade now |
| 02:55.04 | Jaxon | Really, its no different than having WAU parse the *.toc for a list of embeds that could've been surrounded by some commented lines or something? |
| 02:55.05 | AnduinLothar | he's in my guild, heh |
| 02:55.07 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: Mono WinForms |
| 02:55.21 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: you were having pt3 issues? |
| 02:55.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: yes |
| 02:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | can you try this next commit for me? |
| 02:55.38 | sylvanaar | Jaxon except its not in the toc, so you dont have to mess with it |
| 02:55.45 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: Mono 1.2 is equivalent to .NET 2.0 |
| 02:55.50 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: meh, i want to a .jnlp link Kaelten posted.. yesterday.. i think.. didn't do a whole lot when i tired that. :P |
| 02:56.01 | Jaxon | I guess I just don't see the advantage to having it in a seperate file then, sylvanaar. |
| 02:56.10 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane do what i said first |
| 02:56.11 | Kemayo | Jaxon: http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/downloads/list |
| 02:56.21 | Kemayo | Jaxon: It works on OS X, and it's not Java. :P |
| 02:56.39 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: my java's at the newest version available to os x. |
| 02:56.42 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: sure |
| 02:56.45 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:56.52 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane oh it wont work for os x |
| 02:56.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: ahh, that's cool. I havn't really kept up with mono. :\ |
| 02:57.00 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41205 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 02:57.00 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 02:57.00 | CIA-22 | - Should Load-on-Demand PT3 sets on init now |
| 02:57.05 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: see, that's bullshit, because java's supposedly cross platform. :) |
| 02:57.12 | Jaxon | Kemayo: but maybe I want a pretty UI! I'm capable of writing my own perl/php/python script to handle it, but a lot of the custom stuff on the SVN is designed for use in WAU. |
| 02:57.27 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: give that a try if you could |
| 02:57.30 | rophy | Jaxon: check out WowUIUpdater? |
| 02:57.33 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane sorry, it wasnt built with the right bootstrap |
| 02:57.38 | NightHawkTheSane | The only good reason to use java is for easy cross platform development |
| 02:57.56 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane KTP is going to rebuild it at some point |
| 02:58.06 | ckknight | there are other reasons to use Java... |
| 02:58.12 | Kemayo | Jaxon: It has a GUI. :D |
| 02:58.13 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: Java is a lot faster now than it used to be. |
| 02:58.31 | Jaxon | Kemayo rophy: yeah, I've tried it, it liked to crash. |
| 02:58.46 | AnduinLothar | meh. someone needs to write a _good_ replacement for swing |
| 02:58.50 | AnduinLothar | that's embeddable |
| 02:58.52 | rophy | crash? It works great for me. |
| 02:59.15 | rophy | and it's the only one supporting multiple sites afaik? |
| 02:59.25 | Kemayo | rophy and I are speaking of different updaters. I know the one I'm recommending doesn't crash much. |
| 03:00.28 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: did you say you were adding location info to CowTip? |
| 03:00.41 | ckknight | already did |
| 03:00.47 | sylvanaar | java will never impress me as a presentation layer |
| 03:00.58 | sylvanaar | it just cant cut it |
| 03:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
| 03:01.35 | AnduinLothar | i d like that swing on mac actually uses the mac default gui elements. |
| 03:01.39 | AnduinLothar | do* |
| 03:01.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: yeah, I know, its not a terrible language. But, in my opinion, unless cross platform development with a unified code base is desperately important, you can get better results with other languages. *shrug* And i've yet to see any java app for os x that impressed me at all. |
| 03:02.22 | AnduinLothar | Are there any good xplatform python guis kits? |
| 03:02.26 | NightHawkTheSane | course, I'm kind of a sucker for cocoa niceties. |
| 03:02.38 | NeoTron | ah not looking good for raiding tonight.. three healers are out and we don't really have extras |
| 03:02.44 | Jaxon | The WoWAce mods are the only ones that update often enough that I want to update frequently and WAU is going to be the only one that stays on top of the custom features offered by the WoWAce site. |
| 03:03.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: not if you write your own script ;) |
| 03:03.17 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: I'm lazy and too busy playing :P |
| 03:03.18 | sylvanaar | there is always DIY |
| 03:03.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: always trade offs. ;) |
| 03:03.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: that seems to work, nice. :) |
| 03:04.12 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: >8D |
| 03:04.15 | Jaxon | Yeah, I might have to, or something. |
| 03:04.21 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: is there a dogtag for the person's target? |
| 03:04.26 | ckknight | [Target] |
| 03:04.33 | hyperChipmunk | that's crazy |
| 03:04.37 | ckknight | unintuitive, I know |
| 03:04.44 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:05.11 | Jaxon | Too bad there is no wiki page with all the little things that would have "stuff that is probably going to be available in addons on this svn for easy updating/disembedding/other stuff" |
| 03:05.34 | hyperChipmunk | ah, it's down in the party/raid/guild section |
| 03:05.37 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:05.42 | Kemayo | AnduinLothar: There's a bunch. wxWindows seems to have a consensus as "probably the best", but Tkinter has the advantage of being bundled with Python. |
| 03:05.58 | *** join/#wowace copystring__ (n=copystri@p548A1BE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:05.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: is it just me or is your interface for offsetting the tooltip kinda borked? :P |
| 03:06.09 | AnduinLothar | WXW cost money? |
| 03:06.10 | ckknight | just you |
| 03:06.22 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: don't think so |
| 03:06.23 | Kemayo | AnduinLothar: Nope, it's free. |
| 03:06.34 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: how is it borked? |
| 03:06.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: okay, so then explain it to me? as the tooltip position seems to be nothing like where i drag the orange box :P |
| 03:06.42 | AnduinLothar | i've heard of both, haven't actually done much with python since i was a freshman |
| 03:06.45 | ckknight | that's odd |
| 03:06.49 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: is it on cursor? |
| 03:06.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: no |
| 03:06.57 | hyperChipmunk | Guild: <Mynithrosil's Pet> |
| 03:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 03:07.00 | ckknight | then I dunno |
| 03:07.04 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: lol, yea |
| 03:07.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41206 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc embeds.xml): Cartographer: fix embeds.xml |
| 03:07.14 | ckknight | that's more of a thing of "just deal" |
| 03:07.18 | hyperChipmunk | i tried to make a guild like that actually |
| 03:07.33 | Kemayo | AnduinLothar: The big difficulty with writing guis in python seems to be the lack of nice, friendly gui builders. It's far more work to get one set up than, say, .NET. |
| 03:07.47 | ckknight | did it work? |
| 03:07.51 | hyperChipmunk | also, the left side doesn't appear if the right side doesn't exist |
| 03:08.02 | hyperChipmunk | i have [Name] on left, [Target] on right |
| 03:08.09 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: right. that was kinda on purpose |
| 03:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | I figure, but there needs to be a way to force a line |
| 03:08.18 | ckknight | so that you could have Guild: [Guild] |
| 03:08.24 | ckknight | probably... |
| 03:08.27 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i know why it's there |
| 03:08.35 | hyperChipmunk | so you don't have all the fields for everyone |
| 03:08.59 | hyperChipmunk | but not everyone wants to use it as Label: Value |
| 03:09.03 | AnduinLothar | just found http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Development/Java/JDock.shtml |
| 03:09.18 | hyperChipmunk | in fact, you set the precedent yourself by putting Name on the left of line 1 |
| 03:10.10 | hyperChipmunk | maybe if both are non-plaintext, infer force-show |
| 03:10.11 | Kemayo | Oh, snap. |
| 03:10.37 | AnduinLothar | and... http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20823 |
| 03:11.08 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: huh, that looks interesting |
| 03:11.33 | aen` | jesus |
| 03:11.38 | aen` | bulkmaail is so fast now |
| 03:11.39 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:11.39 | aen` | it seems |
| 03:11.42 | aen` | did you beef it up? |
| 03:12.02 | NightHawkTheSane | he added racing stripes |
| 03:12.10 | hyperChipmunk | intravenous red bull |
| 03:12.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Racing Stripes are like Ace2, they make everything faster. |
| 03:12.33 | hyperChipmunk | yesterday I did some serious polishing |
| 03:12.54 | aen` | my god |
| 03:13.21 | hyperChipmunk | ...and today I fixed all the hang-bugs caused by yesterday's polishing >8P |
| 03:13.44 | hyperChipmunk | it's now pretty much where i want it |
| 03:14.25 | hyperChipmunk | it just took me awhile to get there cuz i sux at coding |
| 03:14.26 | aen` | i like the icon choice too |
| 03:14.38 | hyperChipmunk | =) Mikk made that for me |
| 03:14.49 | aen` | the box wasnt cutting it |
| 03:14.52 | aen` | too drab |
| 03:14.53 | Lywellyn | ckknight: I had set myself as AFK when I left my computer, and I was autodisconnected after a time. When I logged back in, my Player Unit frame listed me as still AFK, and it required two executions of /afk to reset on Pitbull. |
| 03:15.06 | hyperChipmunk | it was never intended to |
| 03:15.07 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 03:15.17 | ckknight | Lywellyn: okay, I'll look into it |
| 03:15.55 | Lywellyn | And does anyone know how you can manually lose 10 HP? I actually have 1347 HP XD |
| 03:16.16 | hyperChipmunk | 1 sta |
| 03:18.07 | Lywellyn | hmm....might have to look into that with a priest. lol. |
| 03:18.55 | *** join/#wowace Health (n=thecooki@c-041ae655.132-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 03:20.59 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:21.11 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon_ (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-178-126.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 03:23.20 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: somebody just linked http://www.wowwiki.com/Underbog_Colossus ingame and prats urlcopy had the _Colossus in the title of the window but the textbox was missing the _Colossus |
| 03:23.26 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r41207 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules.xml): Prat: add modules.xml indirect reference to Prat_Modules.includes.xml |
| 03:23.46 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@66.225.8.145) |
| 03:24.17 | syeren | Antiarc: Ping |
| 03:24.37 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 03:24.56 | syeren | Does your bag addon have an 'all in one' sorted feature :P? |
| 03:25.04 | Antiarc | What do you mean? |
| 03:25.27 | syeren | Let me put up an example. |
| 03:26.12 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster uh are you sure it didnt run out of the visible region |
| 03:26.12 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:26.19 | syeren | Antiarc: http://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_062207_042019.jpg |
| 03:26.39 | Antiarc | syeren: No, SanityBags doesn't handle things like that |
| 03:26.53 | syeren | Okay :( |
| 03:28.01 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: im sure because it didnt copy the _Colossus at all |
| 03:28.22 | Arrowmaster | i went to paste it and was like wtf |
| 03:29.12 | sylvanaar | but it went in the title? |
| 03:29.27 | twinight | hm |
| 03:29.40 | twinight | any alternatives to cooldown timers? |
| 03:29.49 | Jaxon | I've been using Hourglass |
| 03:29.53 | Jaxon | Its like an oCD ripoff. |
| 03:30.05 | twinight | cdt seems to have fallen into desrepair a little |
| 03:30.07 | twinight | nod |
| 03:30.15 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster that make no sense |
| 03:31.03 | Arrowmaster | i just clicked it again |
| 03:31.25 | Arrowmaster | the clicky link has the _Colossus at the end but the text box to copy from doesnt |
| 03:31.47 | sylvanaar | turn on debug |
| 03:32.02 | sylvanaar | enable subsystem "split" |
| 03:32.30 | sylvanaar | and subsystem result |
| 03:32.36 | sylvanaar | and subsystem match |
| 03:32.45 | sylvanaar | copychat all teh spam |
| 03:32.54 | sylvanaar | and pastey |
| 03:33.47 | sylvanaar | it just needs to display on the chatframe you dont need to click it |
| 03:34.01 | Arrowmaster | that made no sense |
| 03:34.16 | sylvanaar | enable debug |
| 03:34.27 | sylvanaar | find the debug subsystem menu |
| 03:34.30 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 03:34.50 | Arrowmaster | no match subsystem |
| 03:34.50 | sylvanaar | enabme split, match, result |
| 03:34.56 | sylvanaar | pattern |
| 03:35.10 | Arrowmaster | all the spam in chat now? |
| 03:35.15 | sylvanaar | then get that link to appear on the chatframe |
| 03:35.28 | sylvanaar | then copychat all the spam |
| 03:36.29 | Arrowmaster | sec its fucking spammy |
| 03:36.33 | Arrowmaster | somebodys making pots |
| 03:36.35 | NeoTron | So what is Quartz => Global Cooldown for? |
| 03:36.39 | sylvanaar | oh god |
| 03:36.51 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: .... for showing you the gcd? :P |
| 03:36.53 | syeren | twinight, coolDown is the best Cool Down display addon ever :p |
| 03:36.59 | syeren | It's just a shame that no one will develop it :( |
| 03:37.07 | Arrowmaster | fucking people wont stop |
| 03:37.08 | NeoTron | I read the wiki |
| 03:37.09 | syeren | I believe it has messy code though :( |
| 03:37.15 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 03:37.21 | NeoTron | so what spells to I need to pick? any spell? |
| 03:37.33 | syeren | An instant cast NeoTron. |
| 03:37.36 | Arrowmaster | its too much spam for copychat |
| 03:37.36 | syeren | Oh wait. |
| 03:37.39 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: any spell will work, ideally one that will never have a CD |
| 03:37.41 | syeren | I use a 1.5 second cast ;p |
| 03:37.47 | sylvanaar | you can do it in a separate chatframe |
| 03:37.48 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41208 10Aloft/CoreModules/ (ClassificationData.lua RaceData.lua): |
| 03:37.48 | CIA-22 | Aloft: |
| 03:37.48 | CIA-22 | - zhTW localization updated |
| 03:37.54 | twinight | syeren, heh |
| 03:37.58 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: if you have a tracking skill, that works very well |
| 03:38.05 | syeren | If you want a link to coolDown, I'll get one :p |
| 03:38.11 | syeren | I can give you a screen if you want :p |
| 03:38.15 | Jaxon | Wasn't someone working on a cooldown mod that showed abilities that AREN'T in cooldown as opposed to ones that are. |
| 03:38.25 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: There's two slots there, in case you have to use a spell from a silencable school |
| 03:38.33 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: no just the debugg stuff from me saying that caused to much spam for copychat |
| 03:38.38 | syeren | Jaxon, that would be a pain in the ass for some classes though ;p |
| 03:38.41 | Arrowmaster | ill try it later about to pull hydross |
| 03:39.12 | sylvanaar | use the history module to set the history in chatframe1 to max |
| 03:39.27 | Arrowmaster | like i said cant right now about to pull hydross |
| 03:39.29 | NeoTron | I see |
| 03:39.31 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 03:39.44 | NeoTron | so another question - how do I get the castbar to.. go away when I'm done casting? :P |
| 03:40.15 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: er, it should already? if it's not locked it might not |
| 03:40.51 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:41.04 | NeoTron | heh yeah you're right, I'm stupid :P |
| 03:41.11 | syeren | twinight: http://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_062207_043434.jpg |
| 03:41.16 | syeren | coolDown is on the left :p |
| 03:42.37 | Roartindon_ | Jaxon: You mean for raid cooldowns? such as brezzes/etc? |
| 03:42.48 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:42.56 | Jaxon | Roartindon_: no, I mean, you choose abilities you want to show up in the list and it displays those when they are ready. |
| 03:43.02 | Jaxon | Useful for spammy cooldowns. |
| 03:43.50 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster i just tried it - it works for me |
| 03:44.27 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: /stab |
| 03:45.14 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:45.56 | hyperChipmunk | you possess the last known bug |
| 03:46.09 | hyperChipmunk | i must know if it fixed |
| 03:47.15 | Funkeh` | ckknight: how does one turn off unit frame tooltips with owtip |
| 03:47.26 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc, hey I have a report about VE healing and talents |
| 03:47.34 | Antiarc | oh? |
| 03:47.42 | Antiarc | I've been trying to test that |
| 03:47.52 | KarlThePagan | I'm currently thinking that shadow affinity does apply |
| 03:47.57 | ckknight | Funkeh`: um, they don't. In PitBull, you can turn em off in combat. |
| 03:47.59 | KarlThePagan | look up "Seinnub" in the armory |
| 03:48.06 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I recommend adding it onto the wishlist, though |
| 03:48.21 | Funkeh` | ckknight: the critical list ;) |
| 03:48.29 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: hmm just worked for me too, maybe the guy that linked it did something weird |
| 03:48.42 | Funkeh` | ckknight: tell me when ya add it, gonna sue tinytip till then, but overall looks nice |
| 03:48.47 | Funkeh` | use* |
| 03:48.51 | sylvanaar | his scaling may have been different |
| 03:48.51 | KarlThePagan | well hmm. this is odd... she's transmitting huge huge threat spikes |
| 03:49.04 | ckknight | Funkeh`: add it to the wish list and it'll get done much faster ;-) |
| 03:49.10 | Funkeh` | bleh |
| 03:49.12 | KarlThePagan | running 40715 |
| 03:49.20 | syeren | ckknight, you can use DogTag to bring up location :)? |
| 03:49.31 | ckknight | syeren: [Zone] tag added today |
| 03:50.13 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:50.49 | syeren | I have the most recent CowTip, but it isn't on by Default, do I have to add it :)? |
| 03:50.53 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc, not sure if it's a reporting bug or if it's actually what threat thinks her healing threat is, but she's affinity no resolve and isn't pulling aggro when it says she is |
| 03:51.15 | Antiarc | KarlThePagan: That's probably related to another bug I'm working on |
| 03:51.21 | KarlThePagan | ok then |
| 03:51.39 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:51.41 | KarlThePagan | i'm the only one in my raid up to the latest version |
| 03:51.48 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: Had an interesting threat result on illhooff lats night too... the warlock (seeding like crazy), was supposedly double the tank's threat on Illhoof, which he clearly wasn't. |
| 03:52.34 | Antiarc | Roartindon_: Also related to the issue I'm working on |
| 03:52.52 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: Okay, great. |
| 03:52.57 | twinight | syeren -- sorry, was fighting, that is nice |
| 03:54.07 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:54.23 | sylvanaar | im going to write a pitbull module since its the fad |
| 03:54.56 | Eej | man |
| 03:55.04 | Eej | does anyone know how to fix ArenaMaster from being stupid |
| 03:55.10 | syeren | twinlight, you will want the version on the file server from February. |
| 03:55.13 | Eej | I just get this big annoying empty window in the middle of my screen |
| 03:55.19 | twinight | i must be having clueless day -- what on earth is "tench" in elkbuffbars |
| 03:55.19 | twinight | k |
| 03:55.24 | syeren | The latest version is bugged and seems as no one develops or maintains the addon :( |
| 03:55.27 | syeren | It's kind of sucks :/ |
| 03:55.33 | durcyn | tench = temporary enchant |
| 03:55.37 | twinight | oh snap |
| 03:55.51 | Funkeh` | ckknight: santa recieved hes list succesfully |
| 03:55.55 | twinight | ie: windfury etc? |
| 03:56.05 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:56.09 | durcyn | poisons, oils, wf. |
| 03:56.16 | twinight | ah-ha |
| 03:56.36 | twinight | no wonder, being a druid and all i never pay attention to windfury. i just cry. quietly. |
| 03:58.55 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:59.53 | *** join/#wowace Lywellyn|Away (i=Josh@oh-67-76-240-121.dyn.embarqhsd.net) |
| 04:03.05 | syeren | ckknight, is debuff filtering too much data to list? |
| 04:03.30 | syeren | (I noticed you did it for buffs.) |
| 04:03.59 | Antiarc | Think I just knocked out a host of bugs. |
| 04:05.39 | Arrowmaster | woot hydross down |
| 04:05.40 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:05.46 | Arrowmaster | 2nd pull |
| 04:07.47 | Axodious | Antiarc, did you get my message? |
| 04:07.56 | Antiarc | Axodious: No, I didn't |
| 04:08.46 | Axodious | do you not recieve private messages? |
| 04:08.53 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41209 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua): |
| 04:08.53 | CIA-22 | Recount - Graph Window in Comparison mode now uses shades of class colors for coloring instead of random colors (up to 8 of a class then it starts using random colors) |
| 04:08.53 | CIA-22 | -Graph Window now supports more than 10 entries |
| 04:08.53 | CIA-22 | -Fixed the gridline spacing for stacked mode (was using the max value of the smallest dataset instead of largest which could create errors) |
| 04:09.41 | Cryect | Axodious: you need to be registered |
| 04:09.53 | Axodious | ah yeah i forgot about that |
| 04:09.53 | Axodious | heh |
| 04:09.54 | Cryect | and identify then with nickserv to send PM's |
| 04:12.28 | *** join/#wowace abug (n=ABUGABUG@c-71-59-82-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:15.06 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:19.06 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:21.00 | Birdemani | so arena master is spamming a thousand or so errors during arenas. the error is attempt to index field ? in line 464 |
| 04:21.03 | Antiarc | Hey Threat-user devs: |
| 04:21.08 | Antiarc | I'm about to break Threat_ThreatUpdated |
| 04:21.13 | Antiarc | eff why eye |
| 04:22.04 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:22.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: zomg you broke omen and wiped my raid!!! |
| 04:23.07 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: why would you do that |
| 04:23.20 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Because the current implementation has problems |
| 04:23.33 | Funkeh` | oh? |
| 04:23.59 | Antiarc | Basically, it sends threat values for target and global threat |
| 04:24.08 | Antiarc | Meaning that unless the mod tracks and combines them, weird stuff happens |
| 04:25.00 | Funkeh` | ok moff |
| 04:25.02 | Funkeh` | later |
| 04:25.58 | kergoth | man i hate the marshfang slicer quest in zangarmarsh. shitty drop rate |
| 04:26.16 | Wobwork | Lines of Communication? |
| 04:26.24 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: yeah >< |
| 04:26.36 | Wobwork | Nah, the worst is the mushroom sample one |
| 04:27.14 | NightHawkTheSane | mushroom sample? from the ogres? thats pretty easy I thought |
| 04:27.35 | Wobwork | droprate was pretty horrific for me |
| 04:27.47 | Wobwork | where you get the samples from the corpses |
| 04:27.49 | Wobwork | not the boxes |
| 04:27.52 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* luck :P |
| 04:28.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: yeah i know which you mean |
| 04:32.06 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:32.39 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r41210 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarCategory.lua AutoBarSearch.lua ChangeList.lua): |
| 04:32.39 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 04:32.39 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Recovery.Stone.Other : 11951:800 Whipper Root |
| 04:32.39 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Recovery.Stone.Warlock |
| 04:32.39 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Buff.Water Breathing : 24421:30 |
| 04:32.40 | CIA-22 | -- Fix AutoBarSearch:CanCastSpell |
| 04:36.38 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@217.185-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 04:38.33 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:39.48 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:41.59 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:42.35 | *** join/#wowace aen1 (n=aen@cpe-65-25-19-175.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 04:42.38 | aen1 | i keep getting this prat error |
| 04:43.02 | aen1 | prat.lua:655: attempt to call method 'SetDebugging' (nil value) |
| 04:43.38 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: don't make me beat you |
| 04:48.41 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 04:50.34 | aen1 | anyone?? |
| 04:52.02 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41211 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatLogger.lua): |
| 04:52.02 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Fixed an issue that let KTM threat numbers compete with Omen's |
| 04:52.02 | CIA-22 | threat numbers. Completely re-arranged the publish mechanism to actually publish |
| 04:52.02 | CIA-22 | global threat, rather than threat as a component of target threat. BACKWARDS |
| 04:52.02 | CIA-22 | INCOMPATIBLE CHANGE: Threat_ThreatUpdated no longer gives a threat value as its |
| 04:52.05 | CIA-22 | fourth parameter. Use Threat:GetThreat(source, target) if the third parameter |
| 04:52.07 | CIA-22 | (target) is one you're interested in. |
| 04:52.53 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41212 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenThreatBar.lua): Omen: Updates to Omen to take advantage of the ThreatLib changes. Should be far less buggy now! |
| 04:53.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41213 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Updated last backwards compatible revision due to publish changes. |
| 04:54.04 | Thrae | Antiarc: Why are you calling it Threat-1.0 if you're making breakable changes like that? Wouldn't it be more fair to just call it "Threat" or "Threat-Beta", with the major as "Threat-Beta"? |
| 04:54.23 | Antiarc | Thrae: So that people don't have to go rearrange their code when it's done? :) |
| 04:54.49 | Thrae | Antiarc: If they're using a library that hasn't been released yet, their own addon shouldn't be released. |
| 04:54.59 | Thrae | Which means they should be maintaining it... |
| 04:55.01 | Antiarc | *shrug* that's up to the author |
| 04:55.10 | hyperChipmunk | it's an optional feature in most, disabled by default |
| 04:55.39 | hyperChipmunk | and yea, not really Antiarc's responsibility |
| 04:55.41 | durcyn | yeah, it's almost like you yanked a popular addon from the public svn then posted up an incomplete replacement. |
| 04:55.47 | aen1 | whos the prat author? |
| 04:55.54 | hyperChipmunk | durcyn: i wasn't gonna go there |
| 04:56.05 | Antiarc | Eh. I'll maintain backwards compat with a deprication warning. |
| 04:56.17 | hyperChipmunk | or rather, I couldn't think of a biting enough way to say it |
| 04:56.19 | kergoth | making backwards incompatible changes to something called "1.0" without changing hte major is bad policy. better off calling it 0.0 or beta if thats the case |
| 04:56.38 | Thrae | Antiarc: You're an author, and I'm saying you should just use a sane versioning system until its stable... |
| 04:56.51 | hyperChipmunk | know what else is bad policy? not telling me if that last bulkmail fix took care of your autosend rules problem |
| 04:57.07 | hyperChipmunk | /rude kergoth |
| 04:57.08 | kergoth | havent tested, since i sent that gem to the guy that itd be autosent to, manually |
| 04:57.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:57.10 | Thrae | You're hurting the authors more then helping them, by increasing their expectations of stability and API freeze. |
| 04:58.11 | Thrae | durcyn: You seem bitter. |
| 04:58.45 | Thrae | I listened to my users, the ones here, and put the old version of TinyTip back on Wowace SVN myself. I don't see what else I can do for you. |
| 04:59.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: you can personally come to his house and code him up the tinytip that he wants, that's what you can do. CHOP CHOP. ;P |
| 04:59.46 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 05:00.10 | hyperChipmunk | ckk already took care of that |
| 05:00.45 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Eh, I'm not going there. |
| 05:01.46 | ckknight | kergoth: though you're probably right, it's been pretty publicly known that Threat-1.0 was due to have breakages |
| 05:02.24 | hyperChipmunk | yea, everyone pretty much knows Threat-1.0 is beta/unstable |
| 05:02.27 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41214 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Reverted backwards incompatible change with Threat_ThreatUpdated. Please move away from using the threat value from the event, as passing this incurs additional overhead that I'd like to move away from. |
| 05:02.43 | Antiarc | Everyone that's used it knows it's still subject to change |
| 05:02.54 | Antiarc | But I'll accomodate it to give people time to update their code. |
| 05:03.04 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:03.16 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: Hmm.. possible to create a thread specifically for Threat-1.0 API changes? |
| 05:03.22 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: On the developer ace2 forum or something? |
| 05:03.35 | Antiarc | Probably a good idea. I don't see it changing a whole lot more, but I needed to make this change to fix a number of bugs. |
| 05:03.45 | Antiarc | On the upside, there should be notably fewer bugs in party situations now. |
| 05:03.54 | aen1 | can anyone help me with this error?prat.lua:655: attempt to call method 'SetDebugging' (nil value) |
| 05:03.56 | ckknight | cool |
| 05:04.59 | Thrae | Well, consider the coder new to Ace, even new to addons, but not necessarily new to programming. He wants to make a nice little addon with Threat-1.0, then thinks he's doing something wrong when he encounters problems. It's like the old design addage -- write code that explains itself. At least in my opinion. |
| 05:05.08 | Thrae | Then what do I know, I'm renaming "PerfectTargets" to "Dradis". |
| 05:05.21 | sylvanaar | aen1 you dont have acedebug installed aparently |
| 05:05.38 | hyperChipmunk | stop calling it! |
| 05:05.38 | hyperChipmunk | you want to talk to sylvanaar about prat errors |
| 05:05.45 | Antiarc | Eh. Threat is very, very publically not API-frozen. |
| 05:05.56 | Antiarc | The name may be a bit of a misnomer, arguably. |
| 05:06.02 | Antiarc | But I've never pretended it's stable yet ;) |
| 05:06.09 | sylvanaar | wtf is that the first place the error happens |
| 05:06.11 | Sole | I ate a sammich with salami, cheese and mustard today. It was manly. |
| 05:06.16 | Sole | thought Id share |
| 05:06.25 | hyperChipmunk | dude that's hard-core |
| 05:06.46 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41215 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: |
| 05:06.46 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 05:06.46 | CIA-22 | - Threat: Now uses 3 parameters, and fetches threat from Threat:GetThreat(...). Drycoded. |
| 05:06.48 | Sole | yeah I know |
| 05:06.50 | ckknight | totally hard-core, man |
| 05:07.23 | sylvanaar | aen1 you dont have your libs installed i guess |
| 05:07.31 | aen` | why would i need acedebug if i have it disabled? |
| 05:07.33 | Thrae | Antiarc: That's not what I'm saying...I'm just trying to put the needs of the developer first. Anyway, if everyone knows Threat-1.0 is unstable, then you could change the major version and everyone would know about the major version change ;) |
| 05:07.35 | aen` | im using embedded |
| 05:07.59 | sylvanaar | aen` aparently not |
| 05:07.59 | Antiarc | Thrae: I understand what you're saying, certainly |
| 05:08.06 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41216 10Aloft/Modules/ThreatData.lua: |
| 05:08.06 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 05:08.07 | CIA-22 | - Updated ThreatUpdated handler to use 3 parameters, and fetch threat value with Threat:GetThreat(..). Drycoded |
| 05:08.37 | Thrae | Antiarc: If everyone uses plastic instead of paper, and those that use paper burn it afterwards, we have a sad planet. |
| 05:08.42 | Antiarc | I've been keeping tabs on who is using Threat, though, and the list is still short enough to get away with it, for the moment. |
| 05:08.46 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: As an author that uses Threat-1.0, I am completely under the expectation of changes. And am happy to adjust to them. |
| 05:09.07 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: I realise that it's not a good situation to have for an 'established' library.. but Threat-1.0 is still clearly under development |
| 05:09.42 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: can you give me a screenshot of your autosend list or tell me how you have it set? |
| 05:09.51 | Thrae | Antiarc: Which is -exactly- why you're in a -perfect- position to change the major version to something sane. You can be a role model for all those who build libraries after you. |
| 05:09.56 | hyperChipmunk | i really want to get this confirmed as fixed |
| 05:10.15 | Thrae | It's not about removing confusion -now-, it's about preventing confusion -in the future-. |
| 05:10.22 | Antiarc | I'm not sure I follow, TBH |
| 05:10.38 | Antiarc | You're saying that I should set an example by not changing my API contract in development? |
| 05:10.45 | Antiarc | That's not what I meant. Hm. |
| 05:10.49 | Thrae | If no one cared about confusion in the future, we could all write code in Thottbot-ease on one line, and have a working addon, but one that's unmaintainable. |
| 05:10.53 | Wobwork | no that you should change the version on api change? |
| 05:11.27 | Antiarc | I guess I could upgrade to Threat-1.1 or whatever, but Threat-1.0 is broken. There's no reason to continue using it if I move to 1.1 for this change. |
| 05:11.37 | Thrae | Antiarc: No, I'm just saying use a major version that represents the stage of development the library is in. If it's beta, then it's Threat-Beta, or Threat-0.1, or Threat-1.0-Beta, or Threat-1.0b. |
| 05:11.49 | Antiarc | You either use a broken 1.0 thinking it works, or you Threat-1.0 breaks its interface in order to wor |
| 05:11.59 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BD311.versanet.de) |
| 05:12.02 | Antiarc | I can understand the beta argument, certainly. |
| 05:12.03 | Wobwork | =( |
| 05:12.04 | Thrae | Antiarc: You don't have to name the files and directories the same as your major version, just the same as your library's name. |
| 05:12.08 | Wobwork | Fisker kisses everyone |
| 05:12.16 | Fisker- | OH NOES |
| 05:12.20 | Fisker- | thought you weren't here |
| 05:12.27 | Fisker- | You tricked me! |
| 05:12.31 | Wobwork | Two timer =( |
| 05:13.57 | Antiarc | Thrae: A major consideration for Threat is that it'd need a new comm prefix on version change |
| 05:14.00 | Thrae | Consider yourself a great code warrior -- Conan the Librarian. |
| 05:14.15 | Antiarc | Since two versions trying to use the same comm channel is a bad idea, obviously. |
| 05:14.47 | Thrae | Antiarc: True, but if anyone is using an addon with your beta version, when there's a release version, they need to update anyway. |
| 05:15.08 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: But it's not necessarily true that addons that use Threat-1.0 will need modifications |
| 05:15.12 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, k, will do |
| 05:15.26 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, also, minor bug. mouse over an item in the bm2inbox list, hit escape to close mailbox, the tooltip is still visible |
| 05:15.43 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: ie. if there's a fix with threat values for whatever, all the addons that use the library will get the fixes, without having to change a single line of code. |
| 05:15.47 | hyperChipmunk | what happens when you mouse over something else? |
| 05:16.33 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:16.43 | kergoth | then it goes away, it isnt permanent, just stick floating there until you mouse over something else |
| 05:16.48 | kergoth | as i said, minor |
| 05:16.55 | Thrae | Roartindon_: But as Antiarc said, his library is unstable. His API can't be frozen right now. You're talking about minor version changes, which is fine. But he just made a major version change, one to the API. It's about the sane design of a framework. |
| 05:16.56 | aen` | scl needs a rewrite so bad |
| 05:17.33 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i don't really know anything about tooltips >8P |
| 05:17.53 | hyperChipmunk | not that that sort of thing has ever stopped me before. |
| 05:17.54 | kergoth | probably just need to GameTooltip:Hide() when the mailbox closes or something. i dunno |
| 05:17.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:18.24 | hyperChipmunk | i gots a flame spessarite to test with =) |
| 05:18.38 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Do you use your own tooltip, or the GameTooltip? |
| 05:19.14 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: So by that argument, if he changes Threat-0.1's API, it should become Threat-0.2.. or Threat-0.1-SomeDistinguishingTag.... or, it could all be Threat-1.0, with some clear specification on the wiki page/.toc that the API is stil subject to change? |
| 05:19.59 | Thrae | Roartindon_: No. It would just be Threat-1.0b or Threat-1.0-Beta, etc. designation until release. Then it's Threat-1.0, to designate the release. |
| 05:20.39 | *** join/#wowace xystic (i=auto@c210-49-9-122.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:22.28 | Wobwork | Perhaps for conventional naming schemes, but I think there is plenty of indication here and now of the stability of the library |
| 05:22.36 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/bm2-1.jpg.html |
| 05:22.52 | Wobwork | So perhaps not the best library to make an 'example' of for naming conventions |
| 05:22.54 | kergoth | "stability" in the case of a library includes api stability. |
| 05:23.06 | Wobwork | well, 'stability' or lack thereof |
| 05:23.12 | hyperChipmunk | thanks |
| 05:23.41 | Wobwork | in that there's plenty of notification of the instability of the build in the api |
| 05:23.42 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 05:24.10 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: Hmm.. I understand what you're saying; I guess the difference is I've never considered wowace or the svn a 'release' site... |
| 05:24.22 | Wobwork | Unfortunately, too many people do =P |
| 05:24.36 | Wobwork | Then again, they can't complain if stuff breaks |
| 05:24.39 | Thrae | Antiarc: This might be confusing for you and Roartindon_ because the staple of this SVN, Ace, is in a perpetual state of development. One day AceFoo-2.1 will appear, which may or may not be a beta library intended to replace the 2.0 version (such as AceLocale-2.0 vs AceLocale-2.1). The way Ace seems to do it is when there are major API changes, usually it gets upped one point, even though it's in this perpetual state. |
| 05:25.03 | hyperChipmunk | so it's the gems-but-not-cut-gems thing that you think is where that happened? |
| 05:25.04 | Roartindon_ | I've always had this mental image that curse, or wowi, or whatever is the case may be |
| 05:25.06 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:25.13 | Wobwork | Roartindon_: That's correct |
| 05:25.21 | *** join/#wowace Kinkx (i=bleh@221.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) |
| 05:25.28 | Wobwork | But so many people have started using WAU and similar to keep their addons 'up to date' |
| 05:25.29 | Thrae | Roartindon_: True, but the SVN is still perfect for making -minor- revisions (bug fixes, etc.), which would be -minor- version changes. |
| 05:26.00 | Wobwork | Generally by using the svn keyword as the revision number |
| 05:26.05 | Wobwork | (minor revision number) |
| 05:26.44 | Kinkx | sylvanaar - hmm.. I can't toggle Prat to be visible on Fubar anymore, and whenever I reload my UI, editbox arrowkeys get turned on, even though it says they're turned it off :[ |
| 05:27.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, it doesn't help that a number of authors are content to let their addons sit in the SVN repo without "releasing" them. |
| 05:27.39 | Thrae | Roartindon_: Just because you made a minor revision, doesn't mean it does what you expect it to. So the 1.0 tag may be Threat-1.0-rev 4137463, where 4137565 is broken because Antiarc dropped a tea bag on his keyboard and accidentially commited broken code. |
| 05:28.10 | Thrae | Last time I dropped a tea bag, I coded VitalWatch =/ |
| 05:28.29 | hyperChipmunk | Kinkx: do you use Ace2 as a standalone addon? |
| 05:28.46 | hyperChipmunk | or did and recently disabled it? |
| 05:30.27 | *** join/#wowace Athou_ (n=ask@66.193-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 05:30.46 | Kinkx | I do, and I didn't |
| 05:31.01 | Kinkx | I have Ace2 standalone, but I keep it enabled all the time |
| 05:31.02 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 05:31.05 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 05:31.24 | hyperChipmunk | what happens when you /ace load Prat |
| 05:32.02 | Kinkx | Ace2: Prat is now loaded. |
| 05:32.15 | Kinkx | It was already loaded though, but not visible to Fubar |
| 05:32.17 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:32.37 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41217 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed-koKR.lua: |
| 05:32.37 | CIA-22 | AllPlayed: |
| 05:32.38 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:33.11 | Kinkx | and some settings don't seem to be very reliable, not being enforced or whatever ;p |
| 05:34.10 | aen` | classtimer needs an icon |
| 05:34.47 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: reproduced, thanks =) |
| 05:36.59 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (n=nuoHep@outer.test.e-larek.ru) |
| 05:37.14 | kergoth | np :) thanks for looking into it |
| 05:37.32 | harldephin | is HealComm an official Ace2 library ? |
| 05:37.47 | ckknight | no |
| 05:37.55 | ckknight | only libraries that start with Ace are official |
| 05:38.04 | ckknight | whatever that means |
| 05:38.37 | xystic | is there an official library called "Ventura" ? |
| 05:39.50 | ckknight | never heard of it |
| 05:39.57 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:40.09 | ckknight | you're a dick |
| 05:40.36 | xystic | That was intended as a joke, not to slight anyone. :) |
| 05:41.03 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 05:41.28 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:42.22 | harldephin | right. |
| 05:44.01 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:44.57 | *** join/#wowace MoX|Padwa_work_ (n=abrakada@mail.emural.ru) |
| 05:45.30 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: the reason is that TradeSkill.Gems.Cut contains all the gems that can be cut |
| 05:45.44 | hyperChipmunk | not cut gems |
| 05:47.39 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: http://69.14.77.214/gemcut.png |
| 05:48.01 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=o@c-6b4ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 05:48.05 | kergoth | ahhh.. guess i didnt see that when id id the pt3browser search for the gem |
| 05:48.39 | kergoth | that simplifies things, i'll just autosend tradeskill.gems.cut then |
| 05:48.40 | kergoth | ow |
| 05:48.41 | kergoth | thanks |
| 05:48.42 | kergoth | :P |
| 05:49.20 | hyperChipmunk | however |
| 05:49.55 | hyperChipmunk | i think that the solution I tried did fix another potential bug |
| 05:50.05 | hyperChipmunk | so that's handy |
| 05:50.11 | hyperChipmunk | and also... |
| 05:50.54 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41218 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 05:50.54 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:50.54 | CIA-22 | - sticky GameTooltip on mailbox close fixed |
| 05:52.57 | ckknight | I need to come up with a new name for my pally |
| 05:53.01 | ckknight | gonna transfer |
| 05:53.05 | ckknight | and the name's taken |
| 05:53.40 | ckknight | apparently Chloris isn't taken |
| 05:53.45 | ckknight | but if you add two more letters |
| 05:53.48 | ckknight | ... |
| 05:53.49 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41219 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 05:53.49 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 05:53.49 | CIA-22 | - conditionals for ItemInSet functions only evaluate when it is strictly == true |
| 05:53.49 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net) |
| 05:53.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 05:53.59 | ckknight | hey vhaarr |
| 05:54.04 | vhaarr | morning |
| 05:55.04 | hyperChipmunk | morning stupidface |
| 05:55.49 | vhaarr | haha funkeh did like 30 "use embeds.xml" commits |
| 05:56.05 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:56.30 | hyperChipmunk | jerk didn't do any of mine either |
| 05:56.30 | ckknight | vhaarr: I know, and without express written permission of the authors! |
| 05:56.34 | ckknight | it's a travesty! |
| 05:56.39 | vhaarr | lol |
| 05:57.08 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-133-202-32.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:57.36 | vhaarr | ckknight: how customizable is the background of a secure group? |
| 05:57.48 | ckknight | fully |
| 05:57.53 | vhaarr | sweet |
| 05:58.19 | ckknight | as long as it's a non-clickable frame and all, you'll be fine |
| 05:58.24 | vhaarr | right |
| 05:59.43 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how much faster my load times will be now that i added del /S embeds.xml to then end of my svn update script |
| 05:59.53 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:59.59 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: not much. |
| 06:00.22 | Arrowmaster | oh well, atleast its less spam in framexml.log |
| 06:00.32 | hyperChipmunk | gosh, i'm so happy about bulkmail/bulkmailinbox finally in a state that feels like it's actually polished |
| 06:00.43 | hyperChipmunk | i've never gotten an addon to that point before >8) |
| 06:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | seems like there should be babes, or champagne, or babes with champagne...or something |
| 06:01.23 | vhaarr | I feel like it needs TONS of work |
| 06:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | go jump off a cliff |
| 06:01.44 | vhaarr | :P |
| 06:02.05 | hyperChipmunk | have you tried it today? |
| 06:02.18 | Arrowmaster | i agree with vhaarr, needs MOAR BLOAT |
| 06:02.19 | hyperChipmunk | it's like, beauty |
| 06:02.25 | vhaarr | no, not today |
| 06:02.27 | vhaarr | will soon |
| 06:02.42 | durcyn | i squinted at the name earlier. |
| 06:02.46 | durcyn | it's too long. |
| 06:02.50 | *** join/#wowace rpowers (n=rpowers@c-24-91-250-118.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 06:03.07 | durcyn | totally fails to roll off the tongue. |
| 06:03.17 | vhaarr | haha |
| 06:03.40 | hyperChipmunk | I even put up a wiki page for BMI now too |
| 06:03.49 | hyperChipmunk | no purdy pics yet |
| 06:04.12 | hyperChipmunk | in fact, i'll do that right now |
| 06:05.57 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:06.02 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 06:06.10 | vhaarr | read through the code and I only have 1 comment |
| 06:06.18 | hyperChipmunk | ugh |
| 06:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | that might not have been a good idea |
| 06:06.32 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@89.98.118.158) |
| 06:06.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 06:06.37 | hyperChipmunk | hope you at least wore a helmet |
| 06:06.41 | vhaarr | hC: in fillAutoSendEditTablet, you seem to create lots of functions |
| 06:06.54 | hyperChipmunk | 'seem'? |
| 06:07.03 | Adirelle | Kaelten: wasn't something wrong with files.wowace.com content a few hour ago ? I had weird errors I could solve by checking out files directly from SVN ? |
| 06:07.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 06:07.09 | hyperChipmunk | not my function! |
| 06:07.15 | hyperChipmunk | see, it says kemayo |
| 06:07.20 | vhaarr | that nub |
| 06:07.35 | vhaarr | well anyway |
| 06:07.40 | CIA-22 | 03syntoad * r41220 10SynCamera/ (SynCamera.lua SynCamera.toc): |
| 06:07.40 | CIA-22 | SynCamera |
| 06:07.40 | CIA-22 | - Updated Toc |
| 06:07.40 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the header being blank in the binding list. |
| 06:07.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea, what a jerk! |
| 06:07.48 | hyperChipmunk | lemme look at it |
| 06:08.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh wait |
| 06:08.11 | hyperChipmunk | no, that one's mine |
| 06:08.43 | hyperChipmunk | what do you mean by it? |
| 06:08.49 | vhaarr | I mean that instead of doing |
| 06:09.02 | *** join/#wowace seXemplar (n=exem@203-206-82-231.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:09.06 | vhaarr | 'func', function(dest) ... end, 'arg1', dest, ... |
| 06:09.08 | vhaarr | you do |
| 06:09.17 | vhaarr | local function wtfLol(dest) ... end |
| 06:09.27 | vhaarr | 'func', wtfLol, 'arg1', dest |
| 06:09.43 | vhaarr | so that you don't create 1 function per item/line/category/etc |
| 06:10.05 | hyperChipmunk | line? |
| 06:10.06 | vhaarr | :AddLine |
| 06:10.16 | Xuerian | "SynCamera" .. Reminds me of Synthetic Reality.. WoS XD |
| 06:10.56 | *** join/#wowace Kody (n=kody@adsl-71-141-106-186.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 06:12.07 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 06:12.18 | hyperChipmunk | i don't see where you're talking about =\ |
| 06:13.06 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: I'll patch it |
| 06:14.30 | hyperChipmunk | thanks; appreciate any help you can give me |
| 06:14.31 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, each function() end creates a new closure. he's suggesting creating one closure as a local outside the function and referencing that, so only one is created, instead of one per call. |
| 06:15.24 | hyperChipmunk | You sense that behind that hollow gaze is an equally hollow mind. |
| 06:17.22 | Primer | Is it possible to initialize a variable for use in a macro? If so, how? |
| 06:17.29 | kergoth | think of it like making one table instead of one table every time you call the function. |
| 06:17.35 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41221 10SpellEventsLib/ (. SpellEventsLib.toc embeds.xml libs/): SpellEventsLib: fixed externals, .toc and added embeds.xml. |
| 06:17.38 | Primer | I mean, with just using macros as well, nothing "complicated" |
| 06:18.17 | kergoth | "initialize"? |
| 06:18.31 | Primer | /script i = i + 1; .... |
| 06:18.35 | kergoth | ? |
| 06:18.41 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.43 | kergoth | ta da. |
| 06:18.55 | Primer | yeah, but I don't want it to be 0 every time |
| 06:18.56 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41222 10SpellEventsLib/libs/: |
| 06:18.56 | CIA-22 | SpellEventsLib: |
| 06:18.56 | CIA-22 | - fixed a typo in externals, |
| 06:18.56 | CIA-22 | - bump to 20100. |
| 06:18.59 | kergoth | unless you precede that i with 'local', its global |
| 06:19.00 | kergoth | what? |
| 06:19.06 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.11 | Primer | if (i == nil) then i = 0 end |
| 06:19.12 | Primer | ? |
| 06:19.14 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.16 | kergoth | i is now 2 |
| 06:19.36 | Primer | yes, but when the macro repeats, i is set (once I set it a first time) |
| 06:19.51 | Primer | here's my script |
| 06:20.03 | Primer | /script i = i + 1; if (i > 4) then i = 1; end FCF_SelectDockFrame (getglobal ("ChatFrame"..i)); |
| 06:20.23 | kergoth | first of all, you shouldnt be polluting the global namespace with 'i' |
| 06:20.28 | Adirelle | Primer: try: i = (i or 0) + 1 |
| 06:21.06 | Primer | ok, so name it something more appropriate and do what Adirelle wrote |
| 06:21.54 | *** join/#wowace liquiem (i=liquiem@p548B9802.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:22.21 | Primer | it would be ideal if I could simply get the existing index instead |
| 06:22.53 | Primer | and also make it detect if that index is in fact a tab frame, and recursively skip until one that's valid is encounteted |
| 06:22.53 | Adirelle | gtg earn my next meal, cya |
| 06:22.58 | Primer | encountered, even |
| 06:27.32 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41223 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: BulkMail2: Reuse some functions. |
| 06:28.23 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 06:29.23 | hyperChipmunk | thanks a bunch; I'll study the diff and learn from it |
| 06:29.24 | vhaarr | hC: there's more |
| 06:29.32 | vhaarr | I left them for you to fix |
| 06:29.36 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 06:29.43 | vhaarr | in updateDynamicARDTables |
| 06:29.46 | hyperChipmunk | I can take itfrom here |
| 06:29.49 | vhaarr | createStaticARDTables |
| 06:29.52 | rubik | is there an addon that lets you inspect people and still view their items after they go out of range? |
| 06:29.55 | vhaarr | ShowSendQueueGUI |
| 06:30.06 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
| 06:30.17 | rubik | Voyeur stopped working in that regard with 2.1 i think |
| 06:30.38 | kergoth | voyeur works if it isnt LoD iirc |
| 06:31.06 | rubik | sorry, i mean.. voyeur still works for inspecting folks.. but once they go out of range, the frame stays up but tooltips are all gone |
| 06:31.27 | rubik | i.e. rendering it mostly useless |
| 06:31.32 | liquiem | herm, archimonde fear warning doesnt fit, the cd is way to long |
| 06:32.05 | liquiem | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31970 that's the right one |
| 06:34.02 | hyperChipmunk | ohhhhh |
| 06:34.07 | ckknight | wow, I'm surprised nobody took Glenda on this server |
| 06:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | 02:08 <@vhaarr> I mean that instead of doing |
| 06:34.15 | hyperChipmunk | 02:09 <@vhaarr> 'func', function(dest) ... end, 'arg1', dest, ... |
| 06:34.15 | hyperChipmunk | 02:09 <@vhaarr> you do |
| 06:34.15 | hyperChipmunk | 02:09 <@vhaarr> local function wtfLol(dest) ... end |
| 06:34.16 | hyperChipmunk | 02:09 <@vhaarr> 'func', wtfLol, 'arg1', dest |
| 06:34.19 | ZealotOnAStick | rubik, try examiner. |
| 06:34.21 | vhaarr | oO |
| 06:34.26 | hyperChipmunk | you meant i SHOULD do the second |
| 06:34.34 | vhaarr | ah, right, sorry |
| 06:34.40 | hyperChipmunk | i thought you said the second was what i did and it was not right |
| 06:34.41 | vhaarr | could've been more clear |
| 06:34.42 | ZealotOnAStick | I've simply been too busy with a bunch of other stuff lately to look at trying to figure out what to do to fix Voyeur. |
| 06:34.46 | hyperChipmunk | that makes more sense to me |
| 06:34.58 | kergoth | examiner looks kinda nifty |
| 06:35.01 | hyperChipmunk | thanks =) |
| 06:36.38 | vhaarr | liquiem: 13sec CD, really? |
| 06:36.48 | vhaarr | that's like nothing |
| 06:38.05 | liquiem | vhaarr, yep, really. he chainfears |
| 06:38.16 | liquiem | if cd is up, he casts fear. really hard :/ |
| 06:38.46 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41224 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Archimonde: Fear is on a 13 sec CD. |
| 06:38.58 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41225 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 06:38.59 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 06:38.59 | CIA-22 | - fixed typo in rabbit's commit |
| 06:39.16 | hyperChipmunk | local function exludeFunc |
| 06:39.19 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
| 06:39.26 | vhaarr | early-morning commits! |
| 06:39.39 | hyperChipmunk | stop breakin' meh code!!! |
| 06:41.14 | Antiarc | I am back from AFK, but I will sum up my thoughts - |
| 06:41.25 | Antiarc | Had I chance to do it over, I'd start with Threat-0.1 and move up from there |
| 06:41.52 | Antiarc | At this point, with it so close to finished, I think it'd be more of a hassle than anything. |
| 06:41.59 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 06:43.21 | rubik | ZealotOnAStick: thanks.. i'll try to find examiner.. don't worry about fixing voyeur |
| 06:45.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I know it's on curse, might be on WoWInterface as well. |
| 06:45.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Lady Vashj isn't hard. All the damn Phase 2 adds, on the other hand, are complicated. |
| 06:47.29 | *** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=lumpi@217.7.101.202) |
| 06:47.45 | Tupsi | morning |
| 06:48.04 | ckknight | morning, Tupsi |
| 06:51.43 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 06:51.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 06:51.58 | ckknight | bah |
| 06:52.05 | ckknight | I need more memory |
| 06:54.24 | Tupsi | what addons using Threat-1.0 so far? I know about Omen, Violation and Pitbull. anything else? |
| 06:54.38 | liquiem | aloft |
| 06:54.38 | ckknight | Aloft |
| 06:55.02 | liquiem | assessment |
| 06:55.02 | Tupsi | we had a major fuckup last night with incompatible threat-1.0 versions and i am trying to explain that to me users in a simple way atm :-) |
| 06:55.39 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41226 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 06:55.39 | CIA-22 | Skinner: |
| 06:55.39 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 06:55.49 | harldephin | lol |
| 06:56.38 | harldephin | nite Tem |
| 06:57.10 | *** join/#wowace pahvir (i=pahvir@dyn-203-76-dsl.vsp.fi) |
| 06:57.13 | Tupsi | ckknight did antiarc talk to you about it? |
| 06:57.42 | ckknight | yea, he mentioned it |
| 06:57.44 | Antiarc | Tupsi: I think that he must have been running an exceptionally old version |
| 06:57.47 | ckknight | not sure why it happened. |
| 06:57.59 | ckknight | yea, if you have one before the update fix, it'll mess up |
| 06:58.37 | Tupsi | it would be nice if you guys could implement some sort of user harresment |
| 06:59.02 | Tupsi | so i can spam whisper users with old version until they finaly succumb to updating |
| 06:59.24 | *** join/#wowace Tovort (n=Miranda@theoden.iai.uni-bonn.de) |
| 06:59.30 | vhaarr | violation does that |
| 06:59.30 | Tupsi | last night i did a LOT of fubar/omen/show party revs, sorting through, talking in guild chat, rise and repeat |
| 07:00.18 | Tupsi | with people not even understanding the basic concecpt of programming and/or software in general its hard explaining anything to them |
| 07:00.40 | Aenslaed | just get them WUU and be done with the whole affair |
| 07:01.02 | Antiarc | Tupsi: I'd mostly recommend that those people not use Threat/Omen till it's declared production-ready :) |
| 07:01.03 | Tupsi | life is not that simple aenslaed |
| 07:01.18 | Peoii | ok, so the new cellular change is confusing... why un-hide the addon messages? |
| 07:01.22 | Tupsi | Antiarc they dont have a choice, i like to live on the bleeding edge :-) |
| 07:01.25 | Aenslaed | got my guild leader to use it and he still plays at 800x600 |
| 07:01.25 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 07:01.59 | Tupsi | well basicly i fucked it up myself which is the irony |
| 07:02.08 | liquiem | 800x600 with 125fps is the way to go ^^ |
| 07:02.23 | Tupsi | to keep up with your fast dev. i put the threat-1.0 lib on our uniuploader instead of the full omen package |
| 07:02.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41227 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Solo active fix |
| 07:02.47 | Tupsi | but apparently it was just the version who fucked us up last night :-) |
| 07:03.08 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41228 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 07:03.08 | CIA-22 | Skinner: |
| 07:03.08 | CIA-22 | - Typo fix :) |
| 07:03.16 | Tupsi | as i went back to omen later and forget about that people will be keeping the old threat-1,0 dir in there addon folder |
| 07:03.33 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-143-167.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 07:04.22 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-143-167.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 07:05.10 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 07:05.50 | *** part/#wowace Roartindon_ (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-178-126.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 07:06.21 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-129-252-144.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 07:06.24 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net) |
| 07:06.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 07:06.45 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41229 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua): Omen: Fix to the number shortening. Moved "Show KTM Data" to the display menu. |
| 07:09.52 | Tupsi | debugging was fun though last night with antiarc ;-) |
| 07:12.02 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@99.13-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:12.42 | Antiarc | That's what SHE said. |
| 07:13.48 | Tupsi | your a girl? |
| 07:15.43 | Tupsi | hey! its still early in the morning and I am still with my FIRST coffee at work, seriously what do you expect? |
| 07:15.56 | Saint-N | i guess anti loves being buggered |
| 07:16.06 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r41230 10Skinner/AddonSkins/EnhancedTradeSkills.lua: |
| 07:16.06 | CIA-22 | Skinner: |
| 07:16.06 | CIA-22 | - FR & ETS MidTexture Bug Fix !! |
| 07:16.30 | Tupsi | i dont care really, all that matter is that "it" can programm addons :-) |
| 07:17.00 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: thanks, now i can't even read my own code |
| 07:21.28 | vhaarr | yw |
| 07:21.41 | *** join/#wowace _dRiN_ (n=kvirc@212.178.199.2) |
| 07:24.28 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r41231 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Allow the caller to supply their own index to Prat:BuildChatText |
| 07:25.14 | vhaarr | "Vista: They took five years for this?" |
| 07:25.23 | vhaarr | http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/13114/1090/ |
| 07:25.24 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41232 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added a title toggle for skins. |
| 07:25.44 | *** join/#wowace NightHawkTheSane (n=duaiwe@65-102-188-188.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 07:26.14 | Antiarc | Man, Rupture's a spammy little bitch. |
| 07:26.32 | Antiarc | Sends on the order of 40 identical comm messages on login |
| 07:29.23 | *** join/#wowace dRiN (n=kvirc@212.178.199.2) |
| 07:29.50 | Antiarc | ckknight: Permission to integrate Waterfall support into CowTip if Waterfall is installed? |
| 07:29.59 | ckknight | agreed |
| 07:30.04 | ckknight | to it to PitBull too |
| 07:30.07 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:32.03 | *** join/#wowace dRiN (n=kvirc@212.178.199.2) |
| 07:32.39 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=face@pD955E078.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:33.01 | hyperChipmunk | cowtip needs one of those up/down arrangement listboxes |
| 07:33.40 | hyperChipmunk | holy frick, I got it to work |
| 07:33.53 | NightHawkTheSane | got what to work? |
| 07:34.22 | hyperChipmunk | this jumble of code that resulted from vhaarr's suggestions |
| 07:34.35 | hyperChipmunk | CIA-22: *poke* |
| 07:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | well that's odd |
| 07:35.07 | hyperChipmunk | the commit went through |
| 07:35.12 | hyperChipmunk | and cia's here |
| 07:35.26 | Iceroth | he's ignoring you?) |
| 07:35.30 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
| 07:36.10 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-039-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:37.59 | hyperChipmunk | well bulkmail is now slicker than a greased manatee |
| 07:41.06 | Antiarc | I committed the Waterfall change but I think CIA died or something? |
| 07:41.20 | Antiarc | ckknight: Suggestion: |
| 07:41.31 | ckknight | yea? |
| 07:41.33 | Antiarc | Make the line group keys the left text, if available |
| 07:41.42 | Antiarc | So I'd see "Faction:" instead of "Line #8" |
| 07:41.51 | ckknight | yea, thought about that |
| 07:43.24 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@83.145.75.66) |
| 07:45.29 | *** join/#wowace Mok (n=Miranda@p54BAF8CD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:46.39 | *** join/#wowace theoddone33 (n=jimbob@pool-71-109-99-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 07:47.37 | sylvanaar | vhaarr thats the most retarded bs i ever read |
| 07:48.41 | sylvanaar | vhaarr its all bitching and opinion - like fox news |
| 07:48.52 | Tupsi | cowtip waterfall, you guys are starting to get funny with your names |
| 07:49.00 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: microsoftlover |
| 07:49.06 | pb_ee1 | Tupsi: And PitBull... :p |
| 07:49.46 | Arrowmaster | starting to get funny? |
| 07:50.04 | Tupsi | yeah pitbull was a laugh as well when i first heard it :-) |
| 07:50.06 | Arrowmaster | youve obviously missed most of the names for previous stuff on the svn |
| 07:50.38 | pb_ee1 | Tupsi: It seems giving a nice name to the AddOn makes it a very good AddOn ^_^ |
| 07:50.48 | pb_ee1 | s/the/an/ |
| 07:50.49 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 07:50.50 | Tupsi | well i am not one of the devs here, i just use your stuff and throw in some hardcore sarcasm here and there about it |
| 07:51.13 | sylvanaar | vhaarr that guy needs to compare vista which he is using for the first time to his linux box more and say why his linux box is better |
| 07:51.21 | Sole | good addon name = good addon = truth |
| 07:51.35 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 07:51.46 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 07:51.47 | pb_ee1 | I'm going to name my next addon "ckknight" |
| 07:51.56 | pb_ee1 | Hey [Ammo] |
| 07:51.57 | ckknight | ... |
| 07:51.59 | ckknight | no |
| 07:52.00 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: there's no need to compare, linux beats windows hands down on all fronts except one |
| 07:52.17 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, let me guess... installed base? |
| 07:52.22 | vhaarr | exactly |
| 07:52.26 | pb_ee1 | (oops, i've waken him up :p) |
| 07:55.13 | sylvanaar | vhaarr lol yeah sure, i'll bet my grandma can compile her own kernel while baking cookies |
| 07:56.10 | haste | everyone can compile the kernel if they use genkernel -all |
| 07:56.19 | *** join/#wowace sunset (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-108-242.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:56.21 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=andy@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 07:56.30 | vhaarr | nobody needs to compile their kernel anyway |
| 07:56.33 | pb_ee1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw |
| 07:56.33 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: welcome to 2007 |
| 07:56.38 | sylvanaar | thats what they all say |
| 07:56.40 | NightHawkTheSane | compiling kernels is so 90's |
| 07:57.04 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: and since everyone is saying it, it must be false, then |
| 07:57.07 | vhaarr | is that your logic? |
| 07:57.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah now we get kernals with everything set a a module |
| 07:57.42 | sylvanaar | fact is noobody is looking at linux except enthusiasts |
| 07:57.50 | vhaarr | that's not a fact at all |
| 07:57.51 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 07:57.52 | Primer | eh? |
| 07:57.57 | Arrowmaster | and people who want stable servers |
| 07:58.02 | Primer | we use Linux extensively at my work |
| 07:58.09 | Primer | tell that to google too |
| 07:58.12 | NightHawkTheSane | that's about as much of a fact as saying Bush has over a 26% approval rating |
| 07:58.17 | Primer | they have about a million linux servers |
| 07:58.25 | Industrial | < sylvanaar> fact is noobody is looking at linux except enthusiasts |
| 07:58.30 | sylvanaar | enthusiasts |
| 07:58.30 | Industrial | lol realise what you just said |
| 07:58.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Don't several european governments use linux tehse days? |
| 07:58.43 | vhaarr | my mom uses linux |
| 07:58.43 | Primer | I guess I fell for the troll |
| 07:59.02 | Antiarc | ckknight: How do I optionally print a string in DogTag? |
| 07:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I thought I had read that somewhere, but I might be wrong. |
| 07:59.11 | Antiarc | ie, I want [GuildRank] of [Guild] if guild is not blank. |
| 07:59.13 | ckknight | Antiarc: what option? |
| 07:59.15 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: there's nothing windows provides for the regular computer user that linux can't provide -completely- free of charge |
| 07:59.17 | *** join/#wowace Kazie (n=kk@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 07:59.17 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:59.21 | ckknight | [Guild?GuildRank] |
| 07:59.28 | ckknight | err |
| 07:59.39 | ckknight | [Guild?Text([GuildRank] of [Guild])] |
| 07:59.45 | Antiarc | Ooh, ok |
| 07:59.53 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: activex? |
| 07:59.58 | vhaarr | dammit |
| 08:00.00 | vhaarr | shut it Arrowmaster |
| 08:00.02 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:00.19 | vhaarr | http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm HAH |
| 08:00.38 | Lyfe | just rephrase it a little. there's nothing *good* windows provides... :) |
| 08:00.47 | Arrowmaster | much better |
| 08:01.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not even convinced the -regular- computer user really cares that much about activex |
| 08:01.11 | sylvanaar | enthusiasts |
| 08:01.14 | pb_ee1 | Lyfe: Blue screens |
| 08:01.16 | vhaarr | fucktard |
| 08:01.20 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:01.22 | Antiarc | yay it works |
| 08:01.23 | Antiarc | [Guild?GuildRank?Text([GuildRank] of [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Guild])] |
| 08:01.27 | Lyfe | blue screens are good? |
| 08:01.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Lyfe: well, for us to laugh at? |
| 08:01.36 | pb_ee1 | That was a joke :p |
| 08:01.38 | Arrowmaster | pb_ee1: theres a bsod screensaver for linux! |
| 08:01.44 | pb_ee1 | Arrowmaster: I know ^_^ |
| 08:01.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I had a bsod startup screen for my mac a while back |
| 08:02.04 | Primer | I had that bound to ctrl-alt-delete on this one server I had 3 jobs ago |
| 08:02.04 | Arrowmaster | theres also one for windows, available from microsofts site, and it sucks |
| 08:02.16 | pb_ee1 | I'm not pro-Linux or pro-Windows, I'm just using both. I switch between them when I need to |
| 08:02.16 | Lyfe | NightHawkTheSane: ok, i'll give you that, it gives us something to make fun of :) |
| 08:02.35 | Primer | it was hooked up to the same KVM as several NT machines...the NT admins would freak when they'd hit ctrl-alt-delete and the KVM was set to the Linux box |
| 08:02.46 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:02.50 | pb_ee1 | If all games were supported on Linux, I would be using only LInux ^_^ |
| 08:02.50 | vhaarr | haha |
| 08:02.59 | Arrowmaster | pb_ee1: same |
| 08:03.07 | Primer | heh, I play wow at work all the time in wine |
| 08:03.10 | NightHawkTheSane | wine/crossover? :P |
| 08:03.11 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: Right, which relates to 'the one reason' I mentioned earlier. |
| 08:03.13 | Primer | err, after hours, of course |
| 08:03.17 | vhaarr | that NightHawkTheSane got |
| 08:03.17 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: That's right |
| 08:03.26 | Arrowmaster | wines no good for new games ususally |
| 08:03.33 | Lyfe | if all games were supported on linux, we'd have gripes about linux too. (well, different gripes) |
| 08:03.35 | pb_ee1 | Even if it IS possible with Wine, it is *not* a good reason though :p |
| 08:03.37 | vhaarr | new games are no good, usually |
| 08:03.45 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* I havnt used linux on a remotely modern computer, so I've no idea, actually |
| 08:03.46 | Primer | it does pretty well with any game that uses GL |
| 08:03.52 | Arrowmaster | hey now theres a few good ones |
| 08:03.57 | Primer | I've been using Linux as my desktop OS since 1996 |
| 08:04.02 | Arrowmaster | cant wait for spore |
| 08:04.07 | Arrowmaster | or starcraft2 |
| 08:04.17 | Primer | yes, I'm a masochist |
| 08:04.22 | Antiarc | http://i16.tinypic.com/4ygs976.jpg |
| 08:04.34 | Lyfe | i was wondering about that, Primer. :) |
| 08:04.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Everyone's looking forward to sc2, Arrowmaster |
| 08:04.54 | Primer | now you know |
| 08:04.56 | Arrowmaster | i forsee many koreans dying to starvation |
| 08:05.02 | Iceroth | :p |
| 08:05.27 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, its like an olympic sport for them, they train for that shit im sure ;) |
| 08:05.47 | Lyfe | i dunno, arrowmaster, i forsee a lot of computer cafe's out there implementing forced logout rules :) |
| 08:05.54 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 08:06.04 | sylvanaar | Primer i used to keep one running in my office here - but i could never find much software i was interested in running |
| 08:06.18 | Lyfe | last thing you want to find in your place of business is a dead body. |
| 08:06.27 | Arrowmaster | so true |
| 08:06.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Lyfe: sagacious words, indeed. |
| 08:07.27 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 08:07.54 | pb_ee1 | mitch0: Guten morgen :p |
| 08:09.17 | sylvanaar | like that article where the guy says he has been running 64bit debian since 06, are there 64 bit drivers and apps or is there a 32 bit compat layer using thunks/context switches? |
| 08:09.23 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@pD9E006D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:10.34 | NightHawkTheSane | since 2006? I'm going to wager that there'd have been some actual 64 bit stuff out by then |
| 08:10.50 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955F537.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:11.19 | sylvanaar | like what? (im really asking) |
| 08:11.39 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: you just compile the apps for whatever type of system your using if it supports it |
| 08:11.47 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 08:11.50 | Primer | I've been running 64 bit linux for about 3 years now |
| 08:12.00 | vhaarr | there's that word again! |
| 08:12.01 | Arrowmaster | most linux stuff supports almost all types of systems |
| 08:12.02 | vhaarr | COMPILE |
| 08:12.07 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 08:12.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I couldn't name specifics, I'm not well versed in linux software, nor in what supports 64bit, I just know that the industry as a whole has abeen shifting to 64bit computing since around 2004ish? |
| 08:12.16 | Primer | our oracle db is Linux x86_64, has over 1 year of uptime |
| 08:12.16 | sylvanaar | that train is never late |
| 08:12.22 | Primer | oracle itself has about 8 months of uptime |
| 08:12.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, OS X has had 64bit components, and I think some 64bit apps since at least 2005, probably earlier. |
| 08:12.55 | *** join/#wowace what-K (i=what-K@xdsl-81-173-191-44.netcologne.de) |
| 08:13.05 | *** join/#wowace Lywellyn (i=Josh@oh-67-76-155-46.dyn.embarqhsd.net) |
| 08:13.40 | Primer | and it's 64 bit oracle too, not 32 on 64 (which would work too) |
| 08:15.08 | *** join/#wowace kopple (n=mroc@c-93e0e455.034-194-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 08:15.17 | what-K | i have a question to the new bigwigs now are all instances loaded automatic i thing bigwigs activate it at mouseover |
| 08:15.20 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@66.225.8.145) |
| 08:15.45 | vhaarr | what-K: 1. Join raid, 2. Zone into Karazhan, 3. Mouse over a boss. |
| 08:15.48 | vhaarr | done and done |
| 08:16.00 | what-K | i have :D |
| 08:16.07 | what-K | but another thong |
| 08:16.41 | *** join/#wowace nekoh_ (n=nekoh@pD9E006D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:16.45 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. thongs |
| 08:16.47 | what-K | in the addon it is Proximity display |
| 08:16.52 | what-K | thing i mean |
| 08:17.22 | what-K | in the german version it will be "Reichweiten Anzeige" |
| 08:17.25 | *** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@75-166-29-251.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 08:17.27 | Antiarc | http://i14.tinypic.com/6d0spox.jpg |
| 08:17.28 | Antiarc | :D |
| 08:17.56 | Gandharva | Antiarc: Could you please post your DogTag Sequence from Line 1? -> http://i16.tinypic.com/4ygs976.jpg This looks great! |
| 08:18.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: that you i presume. JEsus you're a sick bastard. 3.2k ap? 41% crit? /hate |
| 08:18.24 | Antiarc | Yeah, that's me |
| 08:18.55 | Antiarc | I'm also cheating. I'm in a stacked DPS group :P |
| 08:19.04 | Antiarc | But those tend to be my stats over the course of a bossfight |
| 08:19.06 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not cheating, thats good raid makeup :P |
| 08:19.14 | Antiarc | I can spike as high as 3800AP, too! |
| 08:19.18 | Antiarc | It's pretty sexah |
| 08:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | I can believe that. |
| 08:19.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Seriously. /hate |
| 08:19.30 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 08:19.58 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: your weapon speed is too slow! |
| 08:20.24 | Antiarc | Would you hate me if I said that I was wearing 6 blues, too? >_> |
| 08:20.38 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: It gets a lot faster with the Abacus and Heroism! :D |
| 08:20.53 | Antiarc | I've gotten it down to 0.61 speed, I think |
| 08:20.54 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, no, that doesn't bother me :P |
| 08:20.54 | Antiarc | On the offhand |
| 08:21.59 | Arrowmaster | http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/d3c13574d79c99d96b5bea6fca00ba5c31a445b6.png |
| 08:22.12 | Antiarc | Gandharva: [PvPRank] [Name:HostileColor] on the left line |
| 08:22.17 | Antiarc | [Classification] [Level] [SmartRace] [SmartClass:ClassColor] on the right |
| 08:22.49 | Antiarc | Haha, nice |
| 08:23.11 | Antiarc | gief dragonspine |
| 08:23.14 | Antiarc | Anyway |
| 08:23.17 | Antiarc | I'm off for the night |
| 08:23.19 | Antiarc | Take care folks |
| 08:23.24 | Arrowmaster | bah bastard deleted some of his screenshots |
| 08:23.29 | Gandharva | Thanks |
| 08:23.51 | Arrowmaster | http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/0d9b8f9b6c969adfe0e174d8dc30242fe1718344.png |
| 08:23.54 | Arrowmaster | so funny |
| 08:23.55 | liquiem | cowtip or what crazy shit is that Antiarc? |
| 08:24.02 | Antiarc | That's cowtip |
| 08:25.20 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=ubuntu@203-214-134-198.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:25.37 | Wobin | I feel so decadant |
| 08:25.54 | Wobin | The ability to install and use programs like xchat |
| 08:26.05 | Wobin | while installing ubuntu on a completely new system |
| 08:26.20 | Wobin | It's like cake and eating and all at the same time |
| 08:26.35 | NightHawkTheSane | a grand orgy of baked goods? |
| 08:27.53 | sylvanaar | what is cowtip? |
| 08:27.55 | Wobin | yes! |
| 08:28.10 | Wobin | baked goods with SUPAR GRAPHICS CARDZ |
| 08:28.19 | Wobin | it's a tooltip that uses DogTag |
| 08:28.24 | Wobin | sylvanaar: ^ |
| 08:29.01 | sylvanaar | right ok i get it |
| 08:29.30 | Fisker- | lol |
| 08:29.35 | Fisker- | On our breaking news |
| 08:30.20 | Wobin | k, rebooting |
| 08:30.26 | Wobin | <3 ubuntu |
| 08:30.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Reboot! |
| 08:30.38 | Fisker- | "In his latest advertising campaign, the Arena NPC Krixel Pinchwhistle has temporarily called upon the help of his identical brothers to accommodate the rising interest for their new wares." |
| 08:30.40 | Fisker- | i lawld |
| 08:30.54 | sylvanaar | ok the first link was funny |
| 08:30.59 | Fisker- | bout time they did it on the breaking news |
| 08:31.01 | sylvanaar | the 2nd one was empty |
| 08:31.09 | Fisker- | as noone understood there was more than one :P |
| 08:31.15 | *** join/#wowace wobin (n=wobin@203-214-134-198.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:32.16 | sylvanaar | why hasnt anyone used the arena npc's to kill sylvanas? |
| 08:33.41 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 08:34.03 | sylvanaar | thats what i wanna know - in 2 years i never found a group who wanted to try - and the npcs let you q from sylvana's room |
| 08:34.14 | wobin | power of laptop |
| 08:34.17 | wobin | kgo! |
| 08:34.36 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: what do you mean? |
| 08:34.53 | sylvanaar | soyou can q an entire raid and zone out of arena practice matches |
| 08:35.05 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 08:35.06 | sylvanaar | straight in |
| 08:35.20 | sedatedChipmunk | because that's so much easier than just walking the heck in |
| 08:35.52 | Arrowmaster | because a lot of people would probably die while loading in |
| 08:36.01 | mitch0 | yo |
| 08:36.07 | sylvanaar | no you wont aggro anything |
| 08:36.24 | sylvanaar | there are no hostile npcs in range |
| 08:36.32 | sylvanaar | its funny |
| 08:36.37 | Arrowmaster | can you still do the bg queue from anywhere trick? |
| 08:36.41 | pb_ee1 | It there a Ace'd addon that makes 3D portraits? |
| 08:36.49 | mitch0 | what are the -rxxx.yyy.zip files on files.wowace.com? what do they differ from the onese without the .yyy parts? |
| 08:36.53 | pb_ee1 | Or is it built-in PitBUll? |
| 08:37.01 | Arrowmaster | pb_ee1: builtin |
| 08:37.02 | sedatedChipmunk | pb_ee1: built in |
| 08:37.08 | sedatedChipmunk | mitch0: lib changes |
| 08:37.08 | pb_ee1 | Thanks ;) |
| 08:37.29 | pb_ee1 | Just for my info: does Pitbull indicates if a mob is an Elite one? |
| 08:37.52 | pb_ee1 | I know this was missing from DUF and it _was_ a pain in the ass to know wether the mob was Elite or not :p |
| 08:38.10 | sedatedChipmunk | a lib change causes .yyy to increment on the addons that use it; -rxxx increments when the addon itself changes |
| 08:38.10 | sylvanaar | lol it does all sorts of stuff |
| 08:38.15 | pb_ee1 | And it was missing from PitBull too some time ago |
| 08:38.18 | Arrowmaster | i know you used to be able to open a battlemaster queue window then run off somewhere else and use a script command to open the window and queue, and when you left the bg everybody that you queued would be where you were when you opened the window |
| 08:38.43 | sylvanaar | right |
| 08:39.18 | sedatedChipmunk | pb_ee1: http://wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0#Permanent_and_semipermanent_characteristics |
| 08:39.30 | pb_ee1 | sedatedChipmunk: thanks ;) |
| 08:39.55 | sylvanaar | oh idk but you dont even need that there is no guard near the arena guy i stood there and watched the show a couple times |
| 08:40.03 | pb_ee1 | d'oh, i'll need some time to understand all this :p |
| 08:40.32 | sedatedChipmunk | well, there are pre-defineds |
| 08:40.33 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: but you can only queue up 5 people for an arena |
| 08:41.06 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 08:41.13 | sedatedChipmunk | most, if not all, of the name predefineds, include the [Classification] tag |
| 08:41.33 | sylvanaar | you just drop them and q another 4 |
| 08:41.52 | Arrowmaster | or the other trick and queue 20 at once |
| 08:41.58 | sylvanaar | right |
| 08:42.41 | sedatedChipmunk | nobody does practice anyway |
| 08:43.01 | sedatedChipmunk | just queue two groups, play each other, and grow exponentially from there |
| 08:43.25 | pb_ee1 | Wow, first time I read the documentation on DogTag, this lib is absolutely insane xD |
| 08:43.31 | sylvanaar | im just saying its an easy way to get bunch of ppl in without much fuss |
| 08:43.32 | pb_ee1 | Love it |
| 08:44.01 | Fisker- | wobin look |
| 08:44.03 | Fisker- | OVER THERE!!!!!! |
| 08:44.10 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 08:44.11 | wobin | wotwot? |
| 08:44.18 | Fisker- | you didn't see shit! |
| 08:44.20 | wobin | Loose lips =P |
| 08:44.27 | Fisker- | you don't know that! |
| 08:44.33 | wobin | Sure, I've got spies |
| 08:44.39 | wobin | And Private Investigators |
| 08:44.43 | wobin | And chipper |
| 08:45.09 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:45.16 | Fisker- | >:3 sedatedChipmunk |
| 08:45.18 | Fisker- | I'm a lion! |
| 08:45.21 | Fisker- | Jesus christ etc. |
| 08:45.24 | Fisker- | get in the car! |
| 08:45.56 | liquiem | ah, how can i hide unit tooltips if i hover pitbulls unitframes? |
| 08:46.16 | NightHawkTheSane | man, forgetting what faction you are is like the worst thing ever. |
| 08:46.21 | ckknight | you can hide in combat, liquiem |
| 08:47.44 | liquiem | ckknight, yep that works, but there is no option to always hide the tooltip? |
| 08:47.55 | ckknight | no, not currently |
| 08:47.56 | *** join/#wowace zwiep` (n=zwiep@d54C35283.access.telenet.be) |
| 08:48.23 | liquiem | ok |
| 08:52.04 | ckknight | add it to the wish list |
| 08:52.07 | ckknight | that's why it's there |
| 08:52.32 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslb132.osnanet.de) |
| 08:52.54 | pb_ee1 | Dunno how you are able to find so nice ideas such as DogTag ckknight :p |
| 08:53.02 | pb_ee1 | You're definitely not a human! |
| 08:53.18 | sedatedChipmunk | he ganked it from someone else, ofc |
| 08:53.24 | Gngsk | duh |
| 08:53.25 | pb_ee1 | obviously ^_^ |
| 08:54.25 | pb_ee1 | I can't even think about all the possibilities of DogTag, they seem to be unlimited |
| 08:55.15 | ckknight | actually I did steal the idea from someone else |
| 08:55.18 | ckknight | then improved it |
| 08:55.19 | ckknight | lots. |
| 08:55.33 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 08:56.26 | pb_ee1 | :-) |
| 08:57.13 | Tupsi | is cowtip the branched tinytip? |
| 08:57.24 | mitch0 | it's not branched |
| 08:57.47 | mitch0 | completely new stuff (as far as I know) |
| 08:58.00 | sedatedChipmunk | does tinytip graze your pastures? i think not |
| 08:58.05 | Gandharva | ckknight: Is it possible to shorten the gap between 'Left' and 'Right' in CowTip? |
| 08:58.29 | ckknight | no |
| 08:58.33 | ckknight | that's a blizz thing |
| 08:58.37 | ckknight | I'm not gonna touch it |
| 08:59.01 | ckknight | Tupsi: totally separate, I couldn't read the code for TinyTip, wasn't worth stealing, imho |
| 08:59.05 | ckknight | at least TinyTip's SVN code |
| 08:59.11 | ckknight | there's apparently a better version out there |
| 08:59.19 | mitch0 | ckk: would be nice if the lines could be editet all at once in a table thingy. (not a cowtip, rather a dewdrop/waterfall/whatever thing) |
| 08:59.54 | ckknight | mitch0: yea, was thinking about that. |
| 09:00.04 | ckknight | I might make a custom popup |
| 09:00.15 | ckknight | frankly, it'd be the easiest to work with |
| 09:00.47 | Gandharva | ckknight: [Level:DifficultyColor] does not work. It's always white. |
| 09:00.52 | mitch0 | well, almost anything would be better than the current config mode :) |
| 09:01.02 | ckknight | Gandharva: looking at a hostile? |
| 09:01.36 | Gandharva | No difference between hostile or friendly |
| 09:01.38 | *** join/#wowace smoke_ (n=smoke@adsl-75-63-188-223.dsl.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 09:02.17 | smoke_ | is there any way to make a pet auto passive? i tried adding /petpassive on my macro but i have to hit it multiple times (which is not good for the freeze macro) |
| 09:02.30 | Gandharva | I use this tag: [Classification] [Level:DifficultyColor] [SmartClass:ClassColor] [DruidForm:Paren] [SmartRace] |
| 09:02.44 | smoke_ | i also tried binding it to my forstbolt key, but w/ /petattack added it does wierd stuff w/ it |
| 09:03.09 | omega_ | smoke_: have you tried the /click alternatives? |
| 09:03.28 | Tupsi | a well, i have a problem with tooltips in generel no addon could solve anyway |
| 09:03.31 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@klaagmuur.quince.nl) |
| 09:03.35 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 09:03.55 | omega_ | smoke_: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro#Simulating_button_clicks |
| 09:04.03 | Tupsi | an average its in the way of things :-) |
| 09:04.07 | smoke_ | omega_thx |
| 09:04.16 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.33 | omega_ | ok |
| 09:04.34 | mitch0 | problem is the pet is "not around" by the time /petpassive runs, hence the need for smashing it |
| 09:04.38 | Arrowmaster | and its not good to put either in a spam macro |
| 09:05.06 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley` (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 09:05.11 | smoke_ | yeah |
| 09:05.17 | smoke_ | i have /petattack on my frostbolt key |
| 09:05.19 | Tupsi | although, some keyboard modifier would solve the thing |
| 09:05.25 | mitch0 | the real solution would be if the pet rememebered it's state, but that can only be done @blizz presently |
| 09:05.25 | *** join/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@h8441158027.dsl.speedlinq.nl) |
| 09:05.27 | smoke_ | and if i add /petpassive ont hat it makes the WE like run back and forth |
| 09:05.36 | Tupsi | ckknight you have that in cowtip by any chance? |
| 09:05.50 | Arrowmaster | add the /petpassive to the summon macro and just press it twice |
| 09:05.54 | smoke_ | so there is no way to auto set the /petpassive? |
| 09:06.01 | mitch0 | smoke: I put the /petpassive in the conjure/freeze macro, not the best, but it works |
| 09:06.03 | smoke_ | Arrowmaster, yeah but i have the freeze key on it |
| 09:06.08 | mitch0 | I also have /petattack on FB |
| 09:06.25 | smoke_ | hmm |
| 09:06.31 | mitch0 | my macro is /summon; /petpassive; /freeze |
| 09:06.40 | Arrowmaster | for warlocks, everytime you do /petattack it makes the imp start recasting firebolt |
| 09:06.53 | Arrowmaster | even if its midcast |
| 09:07.17 | smoke_ | so there is no way to somehow make it auto passive or something? |
| 09:07.23 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 09:07.27 | mitch0 | no |
| 09:07.33 | ckknight | Tupsi: have what? |
| 09:07.44 | mitch0 | but the /petattack can be conditionaled so that it doesn't run if the pet already has a target |
| 09:07.59 | mitch0 | I don't remember how I did that though |
| 09:08.20 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 09:08.23 | Arrowmaster | probably /petattack [target=pettarget,noexists] |
| 09:08.27 | mitch0 | probly [target=pettarget, exists] or somesuch |
| 09:08.36 | mitch0 | yeah, something like that |
| 09:08.42 | liquiem | noexisting pet cant have a target :) |
| 09:08.47 | Arrowmaster | never put spaces inside the []s |
| 09:08.53 | mitch0 | yeah, /petattack [target=pettarget, noexists] target |
| 09:09.23 | mitch0 | arrow: I think I have spaces all around them, and they work |
| 09:09.29 | mitch0 | just take a bit more space |
| 09:09.29 | Arrowmaster | odd |
| 09:09.37 | Arrowmaster | i know they used to break with spaces |
| 09:09.49 | *** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=wobin@203-214-134-198.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:10.19 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@213-205-67-125.net.novis.pt) |
| 09:10.33 | smoke_ | wait |
| 09:10.36 | smoke_ | would /aftercast work? |
| 09:10.37 | smoke_ | or no? |
| 09:10.47 | mitch0 | never heard of that |
| 09:10.57 | smoke_ | i dont either |
| 09:11.02 | smoke_ | but i see it on this wowwiki for a warlock portal macro |
| 09:11.08 | smoke_ | it says /aftercast /p blah blah |
| 09:11.15 | mitch0 | probly some addon |
| 09:11.17 | smoke_ | an it supposely says party chat after he casts portal... |
| 09:11.20 | smoke_ | oh |
| 09:11.35 | cryogen | it's an addon |
| 09:11.43 | cryogen | (called aftercast, oddly enough) |
| 09:12.12 | Arrowmaster | and it wont work |
| 09:12.13 | smoke_ | would that work? |
| 09:12.15 | smoke_ | oh |
| 09:13.07 | evl | ckknight: I can't find a way to turn off the agro recoloring of health bars, am I looking in the wrong place or isn't there an option? |
| 09:13.24 | ckknight | Other -> Enable Aggro something |
| 09:14.44 | smoke_ | the aftercast mod isnt compatible w/ the new stuff? |
| 09:16.43 | Arrowmaster | the aftercast mod is a mod |
| 09:16.50 | Arrowmaster | it can only do stuff mods are allowed to do |
| 09:17.13 | Arrowmaster | the /petattack /petpassive and other such stuff are not allowed to be done by mods |
| 09:18.26 | Arrowmaster | bah 5:20am, i need to goto bed |
| 09:18.59 | Fisker- | ok weird |
| 09:19.06 | Fisker- | there was an item with 3 limited buys on it |
| 09:19.08 | Fisker- | but i could buy 5 |
| 09:22.13 | cryogen | sigh, uninstalling addons doesnt work in the new wua |
| 09:22.20 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 09:22.26 | cryogen | if they're going to release so often they could at least test basic functions |
| 09:23.49 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 09:24.03 | Mikk | cryogen: it's _beta_ |
| 09:24.15 | cryogen | Mikk: it fucking whines every time you run it to update to the latest version |
| 09:24.19 | cryogen | if it's beta, it shouldnt do that |
| 09:24.30 | Mikk | Kaelten has said it won't be ready for production use for 1-2 weeks |
| 09:24.31 | Wobin_ | hoookay... |
| 09:24.45 | Mikk | If you want working software, stick with 1.9 |
| 09:24.51 | cryogen | this IS 1.9 |
| 09:24.54 | Mikk | oh |
| 09:24.58 | Mikk | apologies then |
| 09:25.04 | Mikk | that should deffo work :P |
| 09:25.10 | Daemona | wtf ? |
| 09:25.12 | Daemona | (08:38:45) (CIA-22) rabbit * r41224 BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Archimonde: Fear is on a 13 sec CD. |
| 09:25.33 | Wobin_ | Bosses have cooldowns too =( |
| 09:25.43 | Daemona | could someone change that back to 30 seconds please? |
| 09:25.53 | Daemona | 13 is definitly wrong |
| 09:26.12 | *** join/#wowace NinjaChimp (n=chemp@host86-135-167-172.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:26.13 | vhaarr | Daemona: Some guy here was saying it was 13. |
| 09:26.15 | vhaarr | liquiem |
| 09:26.31 | Daemona | i can throw 25mb /combatlog + bigwigs_debugger logs at you proving that |
| 09:26.48 | vhaarr | Daemona: alright, what should I make it, then? |
| 09:26.52 | Daemona | and please tell me how a non-alliance tank should break that fear in time without fearward |
| 09:26.57 | Daemona | 30 seconds |
| 09:26.58 | vhaarr | I know |
| 09:27.15 | vhaarr | I was surprised as well, but I didn't really have any reason to not trust liquiem |
| 09:27.21 | Daemona | (01:08:17) (Daemona) 6/21 21:55:26.406 Archimonde begins to cast Fear. |
| 09:27.21 | Daemona | (01:08:17) (Daemona) 6/21 21:55:57.781 Archimonde begins to cast Fear. |
| 09:28.06 | liquiem | uhm, if daemona says it 30secs, i believe him :p |
| 09:28.09 | Fisker- | omg yes |
| 09:28.10 | liquiem | fth sucks :/ |
| 09:28.13 | Fisker- | cenarion pots stacking in 15 |
| 09:28.29 | nadas | Fisker-: the mana/health pots? |
| 09:28.38 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:28.50 | nadas | time to toss my regular pots and hand in some armaments then |
| 09:28.58 | nadas | bagspace here i come |
| 09:29.01 | vhaarr | Fisker-: wtf hax |
| 09:29.05 | Daemona | liquiem dunno, but breaking mods intendedly sucks more |
| 09:29.07 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 09:29.39 | *** join/#wowace nahkiss (i=nahkiss@dsl-hkibras1-ff4dc300-7.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 09:29.55 | cryogen | ah, i think i know why wua doesnt work |
| 09:29.55 | liquiem | that wasnt intendedly, i just saw fear timer in changelog and looked how long it was and i rememberd 13sec cd on his fear not 30sec |
| 09:30.15 | vhaarr | Daemona: fixed again |
| 09:30.22 | Daemona | thanks vhaarr |
| 09:30.25 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Argh |
| 09:30.45 | [Ammo] | haha Mikk feels responsible! |
| 09:30.46 | [Ammo] | good |
| 09:30.49 | [Ammo] | now get to work |
| 09:30.55 | Mikk | I'm gonna switch to a handler approach tbh |
| 09:30.59 | Gandharva | Daemona: Do you know the german Al'ar emote for: "Al'ar begins to cast Rebirth."? It's still missing in Threat 1.0. |
| 09:31.00 | Daemona | as i said, how should horde ever beat that encounter with a possible fear every 13 seconds liquiem |
| 09:31.10 | Mikk | There's not enough state info in AceOptions by far :S |
| 09:31.18 | Daemona | Gandharva sry, i cant stand the german translation, playing enGB ;) |
| 09:31.25 | Gandharva | Me too -.- |
| 09:31.48 | [Ammo] | Mikk: what is your problem currently? |
| 09:31.52 | liquiem | Daemona, dont expect blizzard to be sane? |
| 09:32.13 | Daemona | but i would assume that its a general cast line therefore "Al'ar beggint Wiedergeburt zu wirken." ? ;) |
| 09:32.23 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Well, I could just hack it uglier I suppose.. the problem is that the current structure relies on functions being defined with lots of info in their closures |
| 09:32.35 | Daemona | liquiem i dont trust blizzard, but as i said, i got 25+ mb of logs to proove its 30 seconds;) |
| 09:32.53 | Daemona | erhm "beginnt" |
| 09:33.03 | Mikk | windowOptionsTemplate has no such info |
| 09:33.22 | [Ammo] | so you're trying to add the reporting? |
| 09:33.29 | Mikk | I could of course just leave the functions empty and create them when the window is being created |
| 09:33.31 | Mikk | ya |
| 09:33.36 | [Ammo] | k |
| 09:33.42 | [Ammo] | well |
| 09:33.59 | Mikk | I just feels so damn hacky >.< |
| 09:34.03 | Mikk | It* |
| 09:34.23 | mitch0 | wowinterface's upload interface is teh horrorz |
| 09:34.27 | Mikk | Going with a handler approach, i could just point the handler at the module object |
| 09:34.42 | [Ammo] | can't you just use a func with a passvalue meh |
| 09:34.45 | [Ammo] | like the rest of the get set etc |
| 09:34.48 | [Ammo] | works fine |
| 09:34.49 | mitch0 | how can I remove patches from there? |
| 09:34.57 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 09:35.02 | Mikk | [Ammo]: How do I get hold of the module? |
| 09:35.19 | [Ammo] | you don't have to, you can get hold of the window |
| 09:35.24 | [Ammo] | which has the options and the modulename |
| 09:35.29 | Mikk | :O |
| 09:35.38 | Mikk | How? |
| 09:35.43 | [Ammo] | check how the current passvalue's work |
| 09:35.52 | [Ammo] | windowGet and windowSet etc |
| 09:36.05 | [Ammo] | the copyoptionstemplate thing fixes the passvalues |
| 09:36.11 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:36.38 | Mikk | oho, is that what's breaking half my menu perhaps |
| 09:37.24 | Mikk | it's not really expecting its passvalues to get mangled :P |
| 09:37.59 | cryogen | awesome, debugging the wua solution crashed visual studio :) |
| 09:38.01 | Fisker- | I thought they removed guild rank from the inspect? |
| 09:38.06 | Fisker- | so tell me ckknight |
| 09:38.09 | Mikk | yaknow... moving the whole shabang to a handler oriented scheme would be a hell of a lot cleaner |
| 09:38.11 | Fisker- | how did you hax guildranx :I |
| 09:38.21 | ckknight | Fisker-: GetGuildInfo() |
| 09:39.14 | Mikk | Would totally remove the need to run around and fiddle with passValues |
| 09:39.35 | [Ammo] | euhm |
| 09:39.39 | [Ammo] | just make sure it keeps working |
| 09:39.41 | Mikk | lal |
| 09:39.48 | Mikk | obviously ;) |
| 09:40.04 | Mikk | I'll toy with it and see what happens. |
| 09:40.08 | Mikk | If I don't like it I'll just drop it |
| 09:40.14 | liquiem | ckknight, how can i prevent cowtip not to show left: [Name] right: [target] if the unit doesnt have a target? as target gets blank, the whole line gets blank? |
| 09:40.18 | [Ammo] | I predict it'll blow up in your face |
| 09:40.19 | Mikk | Just seems to me from this perspective it'll become a lot cleaner |
| 09:40.23 | cryogen | does the dude responsible for wua frequent here? |
| 09:40.34 | Mikk | [Ammo]: What code doesn't? ;) |
| 09:40.43 | ckknight | liquiem: true. that's how it will be for now unless I put a force toggle in somehow |
| 09:40.45 | [Ammo] | it took me long enough to get this working properly and relatively clean |
| 09:40.55 | ckknight | cryogen: #wau |
| 09:40.55 | [Ammo] | but if you can make it purtier, go ahead |
| 09:41.02 | cryogen | ckknight: cheers |
| 09:41.05 | [Ammo] | just remember, the same table is used for the fubar menu and the rightclick menu :p |
| 09:41.18 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Yeah, believe me, I know. That's what fucking me over right now. |
| 09:41.31 | Mikk | The Report menu wants to be tied to a module, not a window. |
| 09:41.34 | Fisker- | btw is it intended that "Level 54" changes to "Level 54 Undead Mage" with colors? |
| 09:41.47 | liquiem | ckknight, it would be a problem if i know how to put a space in the condition like [target:space] or something |
| 09:42.38 | liquiem | ah, text(" ") might work |
| 09:43.02 | ckknight | hehe, it won't |
| 09:43.04 | ckknight | due to hax |
| 09:43.25 | ckknight | spaces are trimmed |
| 09:44.05 | liquiem | hmm, but it works for some reason. maybe text( ) doesnt evaluate in blank? |
| 09:44.05 | Fisker- | oh my GODS |
| 09:44.16 | Fisker- | a level 43 paladin wants me to help him with the ressurection quest |
| 09:44.31 | ckknight | liquiem: odd |
| 09:44.31 | cryogen | Fisker-: for real? :p |
| 09:44.35 | ckknight | liquiem: *shrug* |
| 09:44.39 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 09:44.41 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:44.43 | ckknight | rez quest? |
| 09:44.47 | ckknight | the lvl 10 one? |
| 09:44.49 | cryogen | horde or alliance version? |
| 09:44.59 | ckknight | or something different? |
| 09:45.40 | Fisker- | the level 10 one yeah |
| 09:46.46 | Mikk | BWHAHAHA |
| 09:46.49 | Mikk | sorry |
| 09:52.31 | *** join/#wowace Pheredhel (i=pheredhe@deep-water.de) |
| 09:52.49 | winkiller | pally res is level 20 |
| 09:52.56 | Pheredhel | hi |
| 09:53.00 | winkiller | priest res is 10 |
| 09:53.08 | [Ammo] | 20 is the hammer quest not the res one isn' tit :p |
| 09:53.28 | winkiller | mhm |
| 09:54.07 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY <-lol |
| 09:57.49 | vhaarr | Fisker-: hahaha |
| 09:57.56 | vhaarr | "And it's not an iPhone, it's a big-ass table." |
| 09:58.14 | Fisker- | yeah :D |
| 10:01.45 | Arrowmaster | pally res quest is like 10 or 12 |
| 10:02.00 | cryogen | level 12 for paladins |
| 10:02.13 | cryogen | priests get it from trainers |
| 10:02.45 | Arrowmaster | level 20 quest is sense undead then gives a lvl 23 quest for the shitty ass polearm |
| 10:02.46 | cryogen | 20 for hammer/polearm |
| 10:02.48 | Arrowmaster | for horde |
| 10:02.53 | nekoh | bah, i need a location, where i can grind caster/ranged-attack mobs with levelrange 56-61 :X |
| 10:03.07 | cryogen | cant understand why horde get such a shitty reward when the alliance one is great |
| 10:03.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 10:03.29 | cryogen | nekoh: azshara? BS? |
| 10:03.31 | Arrowmaster | the horde quest is level 23 and the polearm is itemlevel 23 |
| 10:04.01 | Arrowmaster | the ghostlands quest can be done at like 15 or 16 and the sword is itemlevel 21 or 22 |
| 10:04.02 | cryogen | and dont get me started on seal of blood/vengence |
| 10:04.23 | cryogen | but on the plus side our mounts look cooler. |
| 10:04.24 | Arrowmaster | seal of blood is so shitty if you have any spelldamage |
| 10:04.50 | *** join/#wowace abbat_w (i=abbat@moo.efnet.org) |
| 10:04.58 | abbat_w | Uff... morning guys |
| 10:04.59 | Arrowmaster | but apparently is perty nice for pure ret |
| 10:05.10 | cryogen | i tried it a little, didnt like it much |
| 10:05.23 | cryogen | have just respecced and am now levelling as holy :D |
| 10:05.32 | Arrowmaster | heard it can proc vengenace |
| 10:05.32 | cryogen | it's actually not that bad.. so far |
| 10:05.37 | abbat_w | holy paladin? :) |
| 10:05.41 | cryogen | ya |
| 10:05.45 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 10:05.49 | Arrowmaster | which makes it nice since its 2 chances per swing |
| 10:06.02 | cryogen | makes sense |
| 10:06.11 | cryogen | it might be reasonable for pvp, but it's pure crap for levelling |
| 10:06.14 | cryogen | if you care at all abotu downtime |
| 10:06.28 | *** join/#wowace FISKER_Q (i=ballmer@85.24.18.176.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 10:06.54 | Arrowmaster | for tankadins seal of vengence is so nice is blood is complete crap |
| 10:07.29 | abbat_w | Ammo, if you here, can you give me url to .nl site with blocks like sharepoint do |
| 10:07.43 | cryogen | the *seal* isnt so bad, but if you judge it.. and crit.. with any sort of trinket activated |
| 10:07.48 | cryogen | it's quite a slap in the face |
| 10:07.53 | abbat_w | You show it some days before, i drop all logs and can't find |
| 10:09.48 | Mikk | ~logs |
| 10:09.49 | purl | hmm... logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 10:10.41 | abbat_w | ~tuplad |
| 10:10.42 | purl | http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg |
| 10:11.57 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.176.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 10:12.52 | *** join/#wowace trh (n=hmmm@e179052064.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:13.24 | *** join/#wowace Uhuru (n=dehli@AAnnecy-157-1-115-52.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:14.07 | Uhuru | hi |
| 10:14.07 | Mikk | 'lo |
| 10:14.08 | Uhuru | nevcairiel are you here ? |
| 10:15.01 | Uhuru | someone is using BT3 with differents profiles for the same character ? |
| 10:15.07 | *** join/#wowace FISKER_Q (i=ballmer@85.24.18.176.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 10:15.25 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: http://www.overijssel.nl/ |
| 10:18.15 | *** join/#wowace _DvdKhl_ (i=DvdKhl@p508A5868.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:23.30 | Gandharva | Finally a good SuperInspect replacement: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/7933/ |
| 10:23.43 | abbat_w | Ammo, thanks |
| 10:24.44 | winkiller | what's wrong with superinspect? |
| 10:24.45 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5485895F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:25.10 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 10:25.47 | abbat_w | Possible blizzard change format of counterspell's strings in combat log |
| 10:25.50 | pb_ee1 | ~~ |
| 10:25.51 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 10:25.52 | abbat_w | Now only this: |
| 10:25.53 | abbat_w | 6/22 02:55:32.687 Xdiehard is afflicted by Counterspell - Silenced. |
| 10:26.05 | abbat_w | 6/22 02:55:36.765 Counterspell - Silenced fades from Xdiehard. |
| 10:26.19 | nevcairiel | thats the debuff he gets |
| 10:26.21 | nevcairiel | so? :) |
| 10:26.23 | abbat_w | i.e. we don't know who cast CS on xdiehard |
| 10:26.29 | Uhuru | winkiller superinspect is up to date for 2.1 ? |
| 10:26.33 | FISKER_Q | http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=742996 <-omg 25000 posts :( |
| 10:26.36 | FISKER_Q | 70 posts a day |
| 10:26.37 | FISKER_Q | i lol'd |
| 10:26.44 | winkiller | Uhuru: no clue, mine works |
| 10:26.53 | abbat_w | But maybe some addon track debufs on opponents by analyze log? |
| 10:28.13 | FISKER_Q | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiQxqEG_huE this is the cancer that's killing /b/ :< |
| 10:29.11 | abbat_w | hehe |
| 10:29.40 | abbat_w | frostbite don't override nova rank2 but still override nova rank1 |
| 10:32.07 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@ppp121-45-234-230.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net) |
| 10:34.44 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.108.215) |
| 10:35.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: shouldn't that be 1.9 in the topic? ;O |
| 10:36.01 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-69-37.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 10:38.31 | *** part/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-69-37.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 10:40.19 | Gandharva | FISKER_Q: look at this: http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/memberlist.php?&order=DESC&sort=posts&pp=50 |
| 10:40.58 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle|Work (n=Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:41.06 | Gandharva | Beiträge = posts |
| 10:42.13 | *** join/#wowace khaki[wtf] (i=khaki72n@74-133-65-248.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 10:49.06 | FISKER_Q | 6 years Gandharva |
| 10:52.02 | Gandharva | OMG now I see it: Joined: 21-October 05 |
| 10:52.12 | Gandharva | crazy guy! |
| 10:52.18 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-29e6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:54.01 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@213-205-67-125.net.novis.pt) |
| 10:56.33 | *** join/#wowace Gale (n=Gale212@85-210-206-244.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 10:57.39 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=bla@pD957D18D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:00.28 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 11:02.11 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r54h77.res.gatech.edu) |
| 11:04.04 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@157.157.216.175) |
| 11:04.45 | *** join/#wowace Scrapy (n=Scrapy@84.249.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 11:05.42 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 11:05.44 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 11:09.21 | *** join/#wowace Caiman (n=yo@18.pool85-49-207.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 11:12.22 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@APoitiers-256-1-185-214.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:12.37 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-75-62.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 11:12.59 | yacoob | hm |
| 11:13.13 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.176.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 11:13.21 | yacoob | are there any "unofficial" ati drivers for win xp, and if there are, are they worth the hassle? |
| 11:13.39 | Gngsk | omega, I use 'em |
| 11:13.44 | Fisker- | i think there's omega |
| 11:13.47 | Fisker- | QQ Gngsk |
| 11:13.51 | Gngsk | pwnd |
| 11:15.36 | Adirelle|Work | Kaelten: ping ? |
| 11:15.46 | *** join/#wowace scrapy_ (n=Scrapy@20.219.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 11:17.49 | omega_ | Gngsk: say what now? |
| 11:17.59 | omega_ | ohh |
| 11:18.04 | omega_ | nm :) |
| 11:18.10 | Adirelle|Work | is Kaelten the only one that maintains files.wowace.com ? |
| 11:19.12 | yacoob | Gngsk, is it worth it? :) |
| 11:20.06 | *** join/#wowace FRUCHT (i=H@dslb-084-058-145-011.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:20.18 | FRUCHT | lo |
| 11:21.09 | FRUCHT | google failed me, so here we go: is there a way to give omen a fixed size? |
| 11:24.04 | pb_ee1 | EU AUthentification down? |
| 11:24.12 | *** join/#wowace ie|Stiffe (n=lolz@81-231-242-209-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 11:24.13 | *** join/#wowace immortial (n=nomail@85.97.128.200) |
| 11:24.18 | cryogen | vhaarr: btw, is there any way to make cloestgnome not get confused by changing sockets on gear? |
| 11:24.40 | cryogen | as in, MaybeInTheFuture or NotPossible |
| 11:24.47 | *** part/#wowace immortial (n=nomail@85.97.128.200) |
| 11:25.08 | Matrix110 | Well it didnt get confused in some early revision by enchants/sockets |
| 11:25.21 | Matrix110 | but then it couldnt diffrentiate between these atall |
| 11:25.30 | FRUCHT | hi Matrix110 :-) |
| 11:25.47 | Matrix110 | I had 2x Gloves with 1x 20Frost 1x20Fire dmg and it was /random which get equiped |
| 11:25.48 | *** join/#wowace spode (n=spode@3e48ffc7.adsl.multi.fi) |
| 11:25.52 | Matrix110 | hi FRUCHT :P |
| 11:26.21 | cryogen | hmm maybe there's an option i missed then, or one that could be added |
| 11:26.42 | cryogen | right now whenever i change my gems it claims to not find them at all :) |
| 11:26.47 | Matrix110 | its to much effort |
| 11:26.52 | Matrix110 | to find a workaround |
| 11:27.10 | cryogen | what would be good would be a menu option to update sets |
| 11:27.10 | Matrix110 | and its not like you change your gems/enchants sooo often |
| 11:27.20 | cryogen | rather than having to click add and type the same name in |
| 11:27.30 | Matrix110 | Dont take complicated names:P |
| 11:27.30 | cryogen | Matrix110: im a jc, i change gems all the time while levelling :)) |
| 11:27.38 | Matrix110 | erm? |
| 11:27.48 | Matrix110 | using Green gems or why? |
| 11:27.50 | cryogen | "ooh i can make this now.. that'll go nicely in my healing gloves!" |
| 11:27.52 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 11:28.08 | cryogen | yes, early gear with green gems |
| 11:28.09 | sag_ich_nicht | any way to create an UI like this(or similiar to it) quickly: http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mbcuirf3ef2qg7.jpg ? |
| 11:28.10 | Matrix110 | Well i always got the best gems i could get directly so i didnt really change gems anytime:P |
| 11:28.17 | cryogen | ones i make myself :) |
| 11:28.19 | cryogen | as i skill jc |
| 11:28.20 | sag_ich_nicht | as in, not writting XML for a million years. |
| 11:28.54 | Matrix110 | sag_ich_nicht i think you could realize that with Waterfall |
| 11:29.18 | Matrix110 | not sure though |
| 11:29.53 | abbat_w | hhmm... guys, it is possible to 'throw' an event for testing purposes in wow? |
| 11:30.14 | *** join/#wowace zirah (n=thomas@dimensional-gw.datenwelt.net) |
| 11:34.54 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-130-199.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:39.59 | *** join/#wowace liquiem (i=liquiem@p548B9802.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:40.29 | vhaarr | cryogen: I made it distinguish items because some people use the same item with different enchants/gems |
| 11:40.34 | vhaarr | so the answer would be no |
| 11:41.02 | cryogen | can i request an option to pick any item if there is only one potential match? |
| 11:41.02 | vhaarr | but it's possible to do so, and very easy |
| 11:41.10 | nevcairiel | make it fallback when the right item wasnt found :P |
| 11:41.11 | vhaarr | I don't want options |
| 11:41.15 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: that could be done |
| 11:41.23 | cryogen | what nevcairiel said |
| 11:42.09 | nevcairiel | who killed the EU auth again btw? |
| 11:42.35 | cryogen | i blame gnomes |
| 11:42.40 | Mikk | abbat_w: no, it isn't |
| 11:42.43 | cryogen | especially of the cloest variety |
| 11:42.58 | Mikk | abbat_w: You can call event handlers in addons as you like though, but there's no way to make all addons receive something generically |
| 11:43.26 | abbat_w | eh |
| 11:43.40 | [dRaCo] | is there a way to stop ora2 from enabling when I enter an arena? |
| 11:43.46 | nevcairiel | you can do triggerevent on aceevent, but only ace addons will receive those :P |
| 11:44.12 | Mikk | abbat_w: You can't do FireGlobalEvent("SOME_EVENT"). You CAN do SomeAddon:TheEventHandlerName("SOME_EVENT") |
| 11:44.15 | Mikk | Or what nevcariel said |
| 11:44.31 | Fisker- | CAN I HAS STDIO Mikk? |
| 11:44.45 | Mikk | KKTHX BAI |
| 11:45.04 | Mikk | ~lart EU auth servers |
| 11:45.05 | purl | blasts EU auth servers with a huge firehose then strangles EU auth servers with it |
| 11:45.09 | Fisker- | Invisible "ERROR!" |
| 11:45.35 | *** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@client-82-25-181-164.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 11:46.10 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@83.145.75.66) |
| 11:47.11 | sbu | morning :) |
| 11:49.35 | *** join/#wowace Ins- (n=sam@215.88-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 11:49.47 | Adirelle|Work | nevcairiel: in bT3, isn't it any way to totally hide empty buttons ? |
| 11:50.05 | Adirelle|Work | nevcairiel: I mean so that they doesn't respond to mouse events |
| 11:50.14 | Adirelle|Work | s/does/do/ |
| 11:50.28 | *** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 11:50.30 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|Work: no |
| 11:50.34 | nevcairiel | well there would |
| 11:50.37 | nevcairiel | but i dont like it |
| 11:50.43 | nevcairiel | because you cannot drag spells on them in combat then |
| 11:50.59 | Adirelle|Work | nevcairiel: and... what about adding a bar option to enable this behavior ? |
| 11:51.18 | nevcairiel | shrink the bar to the number of buttons you need ? :) |
| 11:51.35 | Adirelle|Work | good try |
| 11:51.39 | Adirelle|Work | but that won't work |
| 11:52.07 | Adirelle|Work | I wish to have some buttons no middle of my screen, on which I drag quest items in and out |
| 11:52.15 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 11:52.35 | nevcairiel | well, i might think about adding that option |
| 11:52.54 | nevcairiel | at least i got rid of the hovering effect again =P |
| 11:53.01 | Adirelle|Work | right |
| 11:53.18 | Adirelle|Work | and if it could prevent thing to get dragged out in combat... would be wonderful |
| 11:53.45 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 11:54.10 | Adirelle|Work | putting back a spell I inadvertely removed during a fight is really annoying |
| 11:54.32 | Adirelle|Work | (and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one to which it happens :p) |
| 11:54.44 | nevcairiel | i think bongos simply hides empty buttons and you cannot put spells in .. and i havent heard anyone complain yet.. |
| 11:55.13 | *** join/#wowace Higdur_ (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com) |
| 11:55.26 | cryogen | i use autobar for that :) |
| 11:55.42 | nevcairiel | oh well guess i will make it an option per-bar |
| 11:56.40 | Adirelle|Work | cryogen: I dropped autobar for pt3bar :p |
| 11:56.48 | nevcairiel | i need somekind of todo list |
| 11:56.52 | cryogen | i tried pt3bar |
| 11:57.01 | cryogen | it scared me and i went back to autobar quite quickly |
| 11:57.34 | Adirelle|Work | and well, my "quest buttons" are scaled at 150% and stands in the middle of the right part of my screen |
| 11:58.02 | Adirelle|Work | it helps with the "WTF are that damn bomb I should launch NOW !" |
| 11:58.59 | Adirelle|Work | cryogen: I can understand. Personnaly, I installed it, tweaked it, committed some changes I made, and now I'm happy with it :p |
| 11:59.04 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 11:59.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight |
| 11:59.20 | cryogen | it was the tweaking part i had trouble with |
| 11:59.21 | sag_ich_nicht | performancefu tooltipcode seems to break with more than 255 addons |
| 11:59.34 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 11:59.36 | sag_ich_nicht | even with less |
| 12:00.14 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't depend on the addons, it just breaks at some size |
| 12:00.15 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 12:00.23 | sag_ich_nicht | and then just goes on beyond the tooltip |
| 12:01.48 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.160.1) |
| 12:03.59 | *** join/#wowace Morghus (n=changeme@21.80-202-101.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:06.42 | *** join/#wowace beerke (n=beerke@5353E179.cable.casema.nl) |
| 12:09.05 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, it doesn't seem to have a real performance impact, but out of interest why is TabletLib eating so much CPU for me? D: |
| 12:09.33 | sylvanaar | because you are looking at it |
| 12:09.38 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 12:09.42 | sag_ich_nicht | sylvanaar oh |
| 12:09.43 | sag_ich_nicht | right |
| 12:09.45 | sag_ich_nicht | of course |
| 12:09.49 | sag_ich_nicht | and because it's refresh |
| 12:09.51 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah okay i get it |
| 12:09.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 12:10.01 | nevcairiel | it doesnt do shit if its hidden :) |
| 12:10.15 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah well DUH, i didn't think of that... too little sleep |
| 12:10.15 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 12:12.15 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-130-199.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:12.28 | Morghus | What's up with the incessant AceConsole errors? |
| 12:13.09 | Tupsi | anyone using whiteboardng? |
| 12:14.34 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@220-132-204-186.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 12:20.04 | *** join/#wowace nekoh_ (n=nekoh@pD9E000E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:24.00 | sylvanaar | Morghus was that question addressed to someone? |
| 12:26.50 | *** join/#wowace theoddone33 (n=jimbob@pool-71-109-99-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 12:27.45 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5731db6e.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 12:27.48 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 12:32.13 | Morghus | sylvanaar: Hehe, to anyone interested I guess. |
| 12:32.17 | *** join/#wowace Tak0r_ (n=tak0r@p57B649B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:33.30 | vhaarr | Morghus: Noone is interested until you give us a debug stack. |
| 12:35.00 | Morghus | http://pastey.net/60922 :) |
| 12:35.28 | pb_ee1 | SVN down? |
| 12:35.30 | Morghus | One among many :P |
| 12:35.44 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76) |
| 12:35.55 | nevcairiel | is that a weird bug reporting addon that lists all addons? everyone seems to post like that now |
| 12:35.57 | Sais | Cartographer_notes is trying to call utf8len - am I missing a library? |
| 12:36.12 | Morghus | nevcairiel: Swatter |
| 12:36.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: It's bundled with Auctioneer, that's why. |
| 12:36.29 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 12:36.48 | Morghus | I thought it was a good thing :P |
| 12:36.59 | Sais | err - utf8len is a "nil value"... |
| 12:37.31 | nevcairiel | you should have the UTF8 library in your Cartographer\Libs folder |
| 12:37.34 | pb_ee1 | dev.wowace.com seems not to respond, am I wrong? |
| 12:37.52 | Morghus | Should I spam the forum with those AceConsole errors? >.> |
| 12:38.13 | sag_ich_nicht | pb_ee1: works for me |
| 12:38.17 | sag_ich_nicht | at least the responding part |
| 12:38.25 | pb_ee1 | strange, I'm blocked on the upload |
| 12:38.37 | vhaarr | Nah, you're not. |
| 12:38.37 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe the svn itself is buggy |
| 12:38.39 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 12:38.40 | sag_ich_nicht | but the server is up |
| 12:38.40 | vhaarr | You're blocked on the post-commit. |
| 12:38.51 | pb_ee1 | "Sending content" since 3-4 minutes now |
| 12:39.05 | nevcairiel | CIA is blocking it again, it seems |
| 12:39.07 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: what do you mean? |
| 12:39.17 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: Read the SVN manual about post-commit. |
| 12:39.37 | Sais | nev: k. *checks* |
| 12:39.40 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (i=kenlyric@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 12:40.04 | *** join/#wowace liquiem (i=liquiem@p548B9802.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:40.16 | Sais | Hmm. Seems to be there... |
| 12:40.52 | nevcairiel | did you update while having the game open? |
| 12:41.00 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 12:41.08 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: It just completed the upload without me doing anything. It is strange that I am blocked, I did not commit any addon today, except this one |
| 12:41.26 | nevcairiel | its not you who is blocked |
| 12:41.33 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: It's not strange at all. |
| 12:41.39 | pb_ee1 | aha, it is the post-commit script? what happened then? :P |
| 12:41.40 | nevcairiel | the script is blocking everyone because it prolly waits for CIAs timeout |
| 12:41.42 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 12:41.43 | vhaarr | Like I said, it's blocking on the post-commit hooks. |
| 12:41.49 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 12:41.59 | pb_ee1 | Ok I see ;) |
| 12:42.12 | vhaarr | Morghus: Some addon you have is misbehaving. |
| 12:42.12 | nevcairiel | just a guess tho, because we do not get cia reports ;) |
| 12:42.14 | pb_ee1 | Thanks for the info, is CIA coming back soon? :P |
| 12:42.22 | vhaarr | ask the cia nubs |
| 12:42.31 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-133-202-32.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:42.41 | pb_ee1 | CIA is not online :P |
| 12:42.43 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 12:42.48 | sag_ich_nicht | if CIA wasn't a bot |
| 12:42.51 | Sais | nev: Nope. |
| 12:42.53 | sag_ich_nicht | that conversation would be really scary. |
| 12:43.00 | Sais | nev: Seems to happen when I close the map. |
| 12:43.13 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-b.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 12:43.31 | nevcairiel | restart the game and try again, if the lib is there, it will get loaded |
| 12:43.34 | nevcairiel | well should anyway :P |
| 12:43.36 | vhaarr | Do a binary search, then. |
| 12:43.54 | Sais | nev: restart or will a ui reload do it? |
| 12:44.27 | Morghus | vhaarr: Me? |
| 12:44.30 | *** join/#wowace alext (i=v@noc.salisbury.edu) |
| 12:44.36 | nevcairiel | Sais: restart |
| 12:45.10 | *** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=wobin@203-214-134-198.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 12:45.45 | Morghus | I suspect it's Violation: \AddOns\Violation\Violation.lua line 2099: |
| 12:45.45 | Morghus | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.52 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 12:45.54 | Morghus | Since I've actually disabled the addon |
| 12:45.57 | Morghus | <.< |
| 12:46.39 | Morghus | [Ammo]: Now that I think about it, I did report something like this before, and you said "Might be my bad" or something :P |
| 12:46.44 | [Ammo] | morghus: what did you do? |
| 12:46.49 | [Ammo] | Morghus: and is your vio up to date |
| 12:46.51 | Sais | nev: OK, cheers. Will have to try that later. I'm supposed to be packing now...but "need" to finish this quest :) (not that I'm addicted or anything) |
| 12:46.57 | [Ammo] | as in what triggers this bug |
| 12:47.06 | Morghus | Loading the game. |
| 12:47.17 | Morghus | With Violation disabled. I even removed the savedvariables |
| 12:47.34 | [Ammo] | apparantly violation is not disabled or it would not error |
| 12:47.38 | Morghus | I did an update 15 minutes ago |
| 12:47.40 | [Ammo] | unless you put it in standby |
| 12:47.42 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 12:47.43 | *** join/#wowace revv (n=Miranda@205.174.173.55) |
| 12:47.56 | Morghus | I disabled it in the 'Addons' thingie in the character screen. How much more disabled can it get? Oo |
| 12:48.04 | vhaarr | It can't error, then. |
| 12:48.10 | [Ammo] | it' can't error then indeed |
| 12:48.35 | Morghus | Might it be because I disabled it for this character only? |
| 12:48.44 | pb_ee1 | Can an Item ID be negative? |
| 12:48.45 | vhaarr | It still can't error. |
| 12:48.55 | Morghus | See, that's the funny thing. I did disable it |
| 12:49.11 | Morghus | And that error up there is what shows up |
| 12:49.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus |
| 12:49.25 | sag_ich_nicht | go and disable it |
| 12:49.26 | sag_ich_nicht | again. |
| 12:49.40 | Morghus | Yes. Logging in now |
| 12:49.44 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: Why does it matter? |
| 12:49.53 | Morghus | ..\AddOns\Violation\Violation.lua line 2099: |
| 12:49.54 | Morghus | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.09 | pb_ee1 | I'd like to use a fake ID for backpack, keyring and bank bag |
| 12:50.10 | Morghus | I'll reinstall it, and delete the variables, and all that stuff |
| 12:50.12 | vhaarr | Morghus: It's not disabled, then, it's that simple. |
| 12:50.29 | pb_ee1 | Thus, I would like to use an ID that will _not_ be used by another item |
| 12:50.30 | *** join/#wowace dabu (i=xx@p54AC9DCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:50.31 | Morghus | vhaarr: Beyond deleting it, I don't see how I can disable it any more |
| 12:51.09 | mitch0 | EBCK |
| 12:51.15 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: The problem is that str:find("item:(%d+)") does not match negative numbers |
| 12:51.20 | sag_ich_nicht | mitch0: that's what i just said. |
| 12:51.20 | [Ammo] | if it is disabled it won't get loaded |
| 12:51.21 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: So you'd probably break the world. |
| 12:51.27 | [Ammo] | if it won't get loaded it can't error |
| 12:51.31 | [Ammo] | if it errors it's loaded |
| 12:51.33 | [Ammo] | and thus not disabled |
| 12:51.43 | vhaarr | Morghus: I'm just telling you, again, for the 5th time, a disabled addon CAN NOT ERROR. |
| 12:51.51 | pb_ee1 | vhaar: well i'll never use str:find(...) so it does not matter |
| 12:51.58 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: Many addons do. |
| 12:52.27 | Morghus | vhaarr: And I'm trying to tell you that for some reason I have disabled it as much as I can, and apparently it's still loading |
| 12:52.28 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: I know, but the data i want to save is not designed to be used by the addons. Only by a PHP script |
| 12:52.46 | pb_ee1 | I just need to know if an item ID can be negative or not. If not, my problem is fixed ;p |
| 12:52.48 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: ah |
| 12:52.52 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: No, they can not. |
| 12:53.03 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: Thanks :-) |
| 12:53.31 | nevcairiel | the idem id itself not no |
| 12:53.39 | vhaarr | that's what he asked about |
| 12:53.40 | nevcairiel | but the last two parts of the item string can :P |
| 12:53.57 | nevcairiel | i know, but just saying |
| 12:54.20 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: Yep, I knew this too :P But as vhaarr said, I'm just interested in the item ID ;) |
| 12:55.01 | Lywellyn | Stupid maintenance >< |
| 12:55.05 | Morghus | I'll delete the thing, and then see what happens. The ultimate disabling |
| 12:55.30 | [Ammo] | using the blizzard addon screen disabling works just fine for me |
| 12:55.38 | [Ammo] | so you're doing it wrong |
| 12:55.43 | Morghus | That's the one I was using :) |
| 12:56.00 | [Ammo] | I bet you have ACP installed or MCP or something |
| 12:56.02 | Morghus | I can't see how I can fail in removing a tick :P |
| 12:56.05 | Morghus | ACP? |
| 12:56.12 | [Ammo] | some addon control program |
| 12:56.39 | Morghus | None that I'm aware of. My addon-listing is here: http://pastey.net/60922 |
| 12:57.06 | vhaarr | 76 FuBarLoadLODFu, v1.0 |
| 12:57.12 | vhaarr | 69 FuBarAuditorFu, v2.3.2 |
| 12:57.19 | vhaarr | 81 Geist, v20100.1 |
| 12:57.49 | [Ammo] | euhm, that error does not mention Violation at all |
| 12:57.52 | vhaarr | ^ explain |
| 12:57.54 | Lywellyn | Morghus: Holy crap, the extensive LIB list.... |
| 12:58.16 | Morghus | vhaarr: What do you mean? |
| 12:58.26 | Morghus | Lywellyn: !!!StandAloneLibraries |
| 12:58.27 | vhaarr | I don't know what those addons do |
| 12:58.35 | Lywellyn | *shudder* oh yeah. |
| 12:58.45 | Lywellyn | AuditorFu is a money management FuBar plugin |
| 12:58.57 | Morghus | FuBarLoadLODFu loads LOD modules by demand, listing them , and all that. Pretty handy :) |
| 12:59.06 | vhaarr | I'd disable that as well |
| 12:59.07 | Morghus | Auditorfu's an extensive accountant thingie |
| 12:59.14 | Morghus | and Geist is just a popupbar thingie |
| 13:01.48 | *** join/#wowace clad|sleep (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 13:01.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad|sleep] by ChanServ |
| 13:01.59 | Morghus | Lywellyn: Looks like loading the libraries once is a good thing :) |
| 13:02.14 | Morghus | *only once |
| 13:04.38 | Morghus | Complete reinstall of all Ace addons. It removed alot of bad popups. Usually does >.> |
| 13:06.04 | Morghus | Now there's only some PitBull_BarFader errors :P |
| 13:11.13 | *** join/#wowace dotk (n=sigh@c211-30-191-4.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 13:13.45 | Industrial | .. so find out who made it |
| 13:13.49 | Industrial | and do something about it |
| 13:13.59 | Morghus | Yeah. Working on that one. |
| 13:14.16 | Industrial | <addon>.toc, ## Author: <name> <--! |
| 13:14.18 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@c-2be3e155.72-6-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:15.15 | Morghus | [Ammo]: Finally managed to reproduce the Violation error: http://pastey.net/60991 - What I did was "/violation windows 1 show" |
| 13:15.51 | Morghus | Then I hit it again, to hide it, and voila. |
| 13:16.17 | *** join/#wowace kovi (i=nnscript@p5081E8C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:17.19 | [Ammo] | you don't use the console |
| 13:17.22 | [Ammo] | in fact, removing that |
| 13:18.09 | *** join/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
| 13:18.24 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc1-cove7-0-0-cust955.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:19.01 | Morghus | Will you allow any alternatives to that? |
| 13:19.24 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 13:20.24 | Morghus | It's a really neat thing to have, as it's part of a macro to enable/disable my raid/party-UI. Slash-commands to hide and show are nice |
| 13:20.33 | [Ammo] | if you want to close all your windows or open them again: /script Violation:CloseWindows() and /script Violation:OpenWindows() |
| 13:20.55 | [Ammo] | aceconsole apparantly breaks on the pass values or something |
| 13:21.00 | mitch0 | anyone knows a utility or something that could print me the package name of a .class file (offtopic, I know, but google failed me) |
| 13:21.09 | Fin | Morghus: do you use Prat? |
| 13:21.13 | Morghus | Ah, two different commands. That's a bummer. |
| 13:21.20 | Morghus | Morghus: No, why? |
| 13:21.46 | Morghus | *Fin |
| 13:21.56 | Morghus | Sorry :P |
| 13:22.06 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-29e6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:22.08 | Fin | Morghus: I was going to suggest a way of calling a slash command that would be easier than a /script |
| 13:22.17 | Fin | just using Alias, basically |
| 13:23.16 | Morghus | hehe. I haven't bothered with any chat-addons yet. What's the upside to that? |
| 13:25.35 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-29e6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:25.48 | Morghus | Hmm.... possible to do a "/script [button:1] Violation:CloseWindows()" or something, so I can put both commands into one button? |
| 13:28.43 | Tupsi | how can i get a version string of threat-1.0 shown? |
| 13:30.22 | Tupsi | Antiarc ? |
| 13:30.44 | pb_ee1 | Tupsi: ThreatLib:IsOutOfDate("player") ? |
| 13:31.02 | Tupsi | that showing me my version of threat-1.0? |
| 13:31.08 | pb_ee1 | yes, it should |
| 13:31.38 | pb_ee1 | _, threatLibVersion = ThreatLib:IsOutOfDate("player") more precisely |
| 13:31.52 | Tupsi | and how do i call that via chatframe? |
| 13:32.02 | Tupsi | i am a lue noob sorry |
| 13:32.26 | pb_ee1 | . /script _, threatLibVersion = ThreatLib:IsOutOfDate("player") |
| 13:32.27 | Tupsi | just trying to debug omen issues from guldies while i am still at work via icq |
| 13:32.37 | Tupsi | uhh that sounds nasty |
| 13:32.39 | pb_ee1 | but be careful, threatLibVersion will then be a global if you do that |
| 13:33.22 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-29e6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:33.30 | pb_ee1 | You just want to print the version number at the screen? |
| 13:33.35 | Tupsi | yes! |
| 13:34.05 | Tupsi | i learned last night that some ancient version fucksup the whole thing if left in the addons folder somewhere |
| 13:34.39 | pb_ee1 | . /script local _, threatLibVersion = ThreatLib:IsOutOfDate("player"); ThreatLib:Print(threatLibVersion) ? |
| 13:34.48 | pb_ee1 | dunno if it works and if it the right way |
| 13:34.52 | pb_ee1 | but I would do it like this |
| 13:34.59 | pb_ee1 | (just for testing purposes) |
| 13:36.46 | pb_ee1 | Humm maybe you can simply do ThreatLib:GetLibraryVersion() :P |
| 13:37.36 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-29e6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:38.24 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLibrary#:GetLibraryVersion.28.29 |
| 13:38.45 | pb_ee1 | Tupsi: That's it, it is the best way to check the version of ThreatLib |
| 13:38.56 | *** join/#wowace Leialyn (i=unknown@p54B4E26C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:39.01 | Lywellyn | Anyone know how you get PitBull to shop showing how long a raid member has been dead or they've been a ghost? |
| 13:40.54 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.37 | winkiller | wow |
| 13:41.45 | winkiller | my client won't let me even make mpty lines :) |
| 13:41.47 | winkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.54 | pb_ee1 | winkiller: grats |
| 13:41.58 | winkiller | ah! ctrl-enter fixes this problem |
| 13:42.01 | pb_ee1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.04 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.07 | winkiller | cheaters :> |
| 13:42.08 | pb_ee1 | (rofl) |
| 13:42.16 | sag_ich_nicht | /say |
| 13:42.18 | sag_ich_nicht | argh |
| 13:42.20 | sag_ich_nicht | they fixed that |
| 13:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | when you could really send an empty messaged |
| 13:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | used to confuse some IRC servers greatly |
| 13:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 13:42.40 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 13:43.59 | |Pixel| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.43 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-29e6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:45.58 | Leialyn | Lywellyn acording to DogTag documentation this is going to be a very long string with everything added Trunc( ... ) ^^ |
| 13:46.13 | Lywellyn | ugh. Thanks. :p |
| 13:51.27 | *** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@82.25.181.164) |
| 13:56.48 | *** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@client-82-25-181-164.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 13:57.52 | *** join/#wowace _art3mis (i=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 14:00.14 | *** join/#wowace Stiney (n=chatzill@c-24-218-115-4.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 14:07.53 | jme | morning |
| 14:08.45 | *** join/#wowace Saroz (n=Saroz@0x57379922.sdnqu1.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 14:11.18 | *** join/#wowace lolinternet (i=bitch2k@85.127.109.140) |
| 14:11.27 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (i=pb_ee1@mne69-10-88-173-76-143.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:14.49 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (i=Hjalte@0x57346ae7.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 14:14.57 | *** join/#wowace Kaydeethree (n=kd3@host-69-59-74-241.nctv.com) |
| 14:15.44 | *** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@client-82-25-181-164.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 14:19.48 | *** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@client-82-25-181-164.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 14:21.12 | durcyn | hrm, CIA hook borked again? |
| 14:21.18 | trh_ | yep |
| 14:21.24 | trh_ | made like 3 commits in the last hour |
| 14:21.27 | trh_ | none was reported |
| 14:21.33 | durcyn | good, time to ninja-commit shit. |
| 14:21.44 | *** join/#wowace Coldheart (i=cold@systembolaget.us) |
| 14:22.08 | trh_ | i fixed a cool memory leak that caused ace2 memory to grow :) |
| 14:22.24 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 14:22.33 | vhaarr | please word yourself more carefully |
| 14:22.39 | vhaarr | you plugged a hole in your addon, not ace2 |
| 14:22.56 | trh_ | vhaarr: yep, but it caused the memory from ace2 to grow |
| 14:23.07 | trh_ | vhaarr: that's why i didn't noticed it before |
| 14:24.00 | trh_ | there are btw: memory leaks in either fubar, furbarplugin or any library these use too that cause ace2 memory to grow :( |
| 14:24.16 | Saroz | fix them |
| 14:24.34 | trh_ | if i can find them :/ |
| 14:24.47 | trh_ | debugging memory growths caused by TriggerEvents are a pain in the ass |
| 14:24.48 | Cryect | they aren't the only thing causing ace2 memory to grow |
| 14:25.34 | *** join/#wowace FtH|Daemona (i=me@i577A2968.versanet.de) |
| 14:25.41 | Saroz | fix it all |
| 14:25.49 | Saroz | vhaarr, sup with dat feature man? |
| 14:25.58 | trh_ | Cryect: but they do it pretty bad, mouseovering all my fubar plugins causes like 10kb |
| 14:26.14 | Saroz | trh_, thats cause it gets all the libs |
| 14:26.43 | Cryect | trh: heh ah I don't use fubar so wasn't sure how bad it is just know I see it without it though |
| 14:26.59 | Saroz | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns |
| 14:27.28 | Cryect | why did you link to that? |
| 14:27.32 | *** join/#wowace Summoner (n=chatzill@ppp70-59.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 14:27.38 | trh_ | Saroz: but that's warmup? |
| 14:27.43 | trh_ | Saroz: i'm talking after warmup |
| 14:27.45 | Cryect | he's not talking loadup time... |
| 14:27.49 | Saroz | ah |
| 14:27.58 | Cryect | who cares about loadup memory] |
| 14:28.13 | Saroz | well still, if the libs leak, and fubar loads the libs it could be credited to fubar by "mistake" |
| 14:28.13 | Cryect | since loadup memory isn't a leak :-p |
| 14:28.18 | Saroz | unless you are running unembeds |
| 14:28.23 | Cryect | its not being credited to fubar |
| 14:28.26 | Cryect | its being credited to ace2 |
| 14:28.38 | trh_ | Cryect: yeah.. that's what makes debugging to painful :( |
| 14:28.52 | Cryect | trh is crediting it to fubar because he does something with fubar and the memory usage goes up |
| 14:29.03 | trh_ | Cryect: i basically debugged it by calling my triggerevents manually with random data 10000 times to see what exactly caused it |
| 14:29.25 | trh_ | but i don't have any clues about the fubar structure, so it's really hard |
| 14:29.27 | Cryect | you could write a debug hook with trigger event to track memory of every eventhandler |
| 14:29.57 | Cryect | then you can do analysis on per event basis and on per function basis |
| 14:30.20 | trh_ | nice idea |
| 14:30.46 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslb132.osnanet.de) |
| 14:30.59 | Cryect | we need like special debug versions of Ace2 |
| 14:31.11 | trh_ | that'd be nice |
| 14:31.21 | trh_ | we should ckknight convince to create one :) |
| 14:35.34 | cryogen | btw why does fluidframes use so much memory, it doesnt do much, surely? |
| 14:37.10 | *** join/#wowace kamel (n=geforz@p54A78E89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:39.30 | *** join/#wowace Coldheart (i=cold@systembolaget.us) |
| 14:40.18 | trh_ | cryogen: no idea, but maybe it rerenders/recreates tables when a raidmember leaves/enters |
| 14:40.54 | Killmore | Antiarc |
| 14:42.16 | *** join/#wowace aen` (n=aen@cpe-65-25-19-175.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 14:42.41 | cryogen | so far havent used it in a raid setting |
| 14:43.00 | cryogen | but it seems to use around 3M idle, doesnt gain much really |
| 14:43.07 | trh_ | strange |
| 14:43.11 | trh_ | i use sRaidframes |
| 14:43.25 | cryogen | the only reason i use it is so i can move my quest log and stuff :) |
| 14:43.41 | Saroz | trh_ <3 |
| 14:44.13 | trh_ | although they don't work when you deactivate fubar.. it's a bit strange ;) |
| 14:44.13 | aen` | did classtimer get an overhaul? it seems like it has alot more customization |
| 14:45.25 | Saroz | SVN is teh down |
| 14:45.44 | nevcairiel | nah only teh slow |
| 14:45.59 | Saroz | been committing for 5 minutes now :p |
| 14:49.18 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@c-2be3e155.72-6-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:51.23 | [Ammo] | it's not down |
| 14:51.24 | [Ammo] | you nub |
| 14:51.30 | [Ammo] | the CIA hook is timing out |
| 14:51.42 | *** join/#wowace moonsorrow (n=moonsorr@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-070.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 14:52.17 | Cryect | Guessing Kaelten is asleep or something |
| 14:52.34 | Fisker- | 1 hour till he wakes up |
| 14:52.37 | Fisker- | MOAR |
| 14:52.52 | sbu | Saroz: bloodlust display is very useful, thank you ;o |
| 14:52.53 | jme | CIAdsfsdf |
| 14:52.59 | Chompers | you mean kaelten requires sleep? |
| 14:53.01 | jme | uh sorry |
| 14:53.06 | Cryect | strange isn't it |
| 14:53.07 | jme | screen session locked up and i had to unlock it :p |
| 14:53.24 | Cryect | cursing at the CIA causes that |
| 14:53.36 | Cryect | don't even think of cursing at the NSA |
| 14:53.54 | jme | heh |
| 14:54.00 | jme | screen as in unix screen(1) ;) |
| 14:57.31 | Thrae | jme: There's a key combination which can do that, I forget what it is. I just normally make a new terminal / PuTTY session and do screen -dr. |
| 14:58.17 | Thrae | So is CIA 100% broken now? |
| 14:58.27 | trh_ | kaelten doesn't need sleep, he has maintenance cycles ;) |
| 14:58.43 | Cryect | the website seems down so for now I guess it is |
| 14:59.43 | pb_ee1 | It seems it's coming back up again (SVN) |
| 14:59.53 | pb_ee1 | Hummm or not |
| 15:00.09 | Cryect | its only the very last part that causes the issue so you ccan upload files fine etc |
| 15:00.22 | Cryect | it should really let you finish the commit before the postcommit hook |
| 15:00.28 | Kaelten | whats down?: |
| 15:00.31 | Cryect | CIA |
| 15:00.35 | Cryect | as usual |
| 15:00.42 | Kaelten | oh shock awe amazement |
| 15:00.49 | Cryect | yeah surprising :-p |
| 15:01.03 | Lywellyn | hyperChipmunk: Are you the author of BattlegroundFu? |
| 15:01.07 | Thrae | The CIA was taken out by FBI and HS. |
| 15:02.01 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 15:02.03 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: Commit failed || MERGE request failed on '(...)' || MERGE of '(...)': 504 Gateway Time-out |
| 15:02.10 | Saroz | ye, got that aswell |
| 15:02.12 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net) |
| 15:02.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 15:02.14 | Lywellyn | The TTV values in Arathi Basin don't show, even though I have them set to show. |
| 15:02.20 | pb_ee1 | Seems the SVN is down, too |
| 15:02.22 | Kaelten | are commits slowed down because of it |
| 15:02.24 | hyperChipmunk | errors? |
| 15:02.28 | Lywellyn | None |
| 15:02.35 | Cryect | yes, taking forever again |
| 15:02.37 | trh_ | Kaelten: it looked like they were a bit a hour ago |
| 15:02.40 | cryogen | hyperChipmunk: you fixed the builkmail trouble? (saw some commits) |
| 15:02.55 | hyperChipmunk | fixing one more thing right now |
| 15:02.57 | hyperChipmunk | but yea |
| 15:03.03 | hyperChipmunk | it's muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better |
| 15:03.06 | Saroz | sbu :p |
| 15:03.07 | trh_ | Kaelten: can't you call the thing to report it to cia with a '&', to it gets forked? |
| 15:03.13 | cryogen | was it just a bug or are the some limitations? |
| 15:03.23 | cryogen | s/the/there/ |
| 15:03.26 | hyperChipmunk | stoopid coder |
| 15:03.38 | cryogen | :D |
| 15:03.41 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 15:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | soon as this commit goes, update and all should be well |
| 15:04.01 | hyperChipmunk | ...if it ever goes |
| 15:04.02 | cryogen | shiney |
| 15:04.18 | Kaelten | see if that fixed it |
| 15:04.38 | cryogen | at some stage i will need to move the mail i sent yesetrday back to my normal toon, so will be nice to do it all in one :D |
| 15:05.04 | hyperChipmunk | oh, well you can do that right now; the fix i just did was to BMI only |
| 15:05.19 | Kaelten | are commits any faster now? |
| 15:05.20 | cryogen | i could, but i dont wanna! |
| 15:05.43 | *** join/#wowace Firik (n=erik@c3eea6fe0.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 15:06.56 | Kaelten | someone test commits please |
| 15:06.59 | Fisker- | Kaelten you're up too early |
| 15:07.06 | Fisker- | gb2/bed/ |
| 15:07.11 | Kaelten | got to be at work soon |
| 15:07.32 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: I'll try |
| 15:08.24 | pb_ee1 | It is not faster |
| 15:08.55 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: It uploads, then waits a loooooooooooooooooong time, and says "upload completes" (well I suppose, atm it is just waiting) |
| 15:09.30 | Kaelten | ok now try |
| 15:10.35 | Antiarc|Work | Morning |
| 15:11.06 | pb_ee1 | D'oh, I must wait until process completes xD |
| 15:11.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh, that was much faster |
| 15:11.15 | trh_ | Kaelten: still slow |
| 15:11.23 | hyperChipmunk | i just committed in 10s, instead of 10m |
| 15:11.32 | hyperChipmunk | but still not as fast as usual |
| 15:11.35 | Kaelten | forking it doesn't work |
| 15:11.45 | Kaelten | I had to comment it out |
| 15:12.15 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: Isn't this linked to CIA? |
| 15:13.09 | Kaelten | think so |
| 15:13.18 | cryogen | whats a good weapon for a 39 druid? |
| 15:13.25 | cryogen | s/a good/the best/ |
| 15:14.24 | Lywellyn | hyperChipmunk: Yeah, I'm in AB and it's not showing TTV. I even unchecked and re-checked the option in the menu. |
| 15:14.48 | Lywellyn | but it's showing time to capture just fine |
| 15:15.22 | hyperChipmunk | odd |
| 15:15.33 | hyperChipmunk | it hasn't been changed in months |
| 15:15.44 | Lywellyn | I think it stopped showing with the 2.1 release |
| 15:15.49 | Lywellyn | it's not been there for a while. |
| 15:16.16 | hyperChipmunk | ah, thx for timely bug reports >8p |
| 15:16.24 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: I can try the commit again, do you need one try again or shall I commit it right now? ); |
| 15:16.27 | Lywellyn | there's been a thread at the forums for a while ;) |
| 15:16.35 | pb_ee1 | s/);/;)/ |
| 15:16.38 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 15:16.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 15:16.38 | hyperChipmunk | i've never looked at the forums |
| 15:16.45 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 15:16.47 | Kaelten | you can try it |
| 15:16.53 | trh_ | cryogen: isn't the weapon for a druid irrelevant (except for stats) ? |
| 15:17.05 | Lywellyn | That would explain that. :p |
| 15:17.28 | cryogen | trh_: it is ye, but stats are important though |
| 15:17.36 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: 10s approx. Cool if you need to go to work |
| 15:17.52 | Kaelten | ya I'm outta here in a few mins |
| 15:18.11 | *** join/#wowace stavmar (n=chatzill@cpe-97-99-113-207.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 15:20.16 | Saroz | ckknight, ping |
| 15:20.51 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 15:20.59 | *** join/#wowace Kinkx (i=bleh@221.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) |
| 15:21.19 | *** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=Miranda@pD95F869E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:22.06 | Kaelten | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBeiQvFsQLM |
| 15:23.28 | hyperChipmunk | Lywellyn: are you in AB right now? |
| 15:23.32 | Lywellyn | Yes |
| 15:24.44 | hyperChipmunk | can you /dump GetWorldStateUIInfo(1) |
| 15:25.11 | hyperChipmunk | and tell me what the 3rd return is? |
| 15:25.41 | Lywellyn | "Bases: 2 Resources: 720/2000" |
| 15:25.46 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 15:25.47 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-129-181.citizip.com) |
| 15:27.12 | hyperChipmunk | does the Resources display correctly in batfu? |
| 15:27.33 | Lywellyn | Yeah |
| 15:30.37 | Kaelten | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-SPOzIS84&mode=user&search= |
| 15:31.33 | *** join/#wowace jdoss (n=jdoss@adsl-75-37-100-142.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:32.18 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@APoitiers-256-1-19-187.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:32.51 | hyperChipmunk | does TTV display anything at all? |
| 15:33.30 | Lywellyn | Nope. There's no TTV display whatsoever. It's as if the option was deselected, I'd imagine. |
| 15:34.36 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf_ (n=MoonWolf@89.98.118.158) |
| 15:34.48 | hyperChipmunk | /dump AceLibrary("Glory-2.0"):GetAllianceTTV() |
| 15:34.52 | hyperChipmunk | if you're still in there |
| 15:34.58 | Lywellyn | Gonna have to wait for me to get back in ;) |
| 15:35.32 | Lywellyn | I did it outside, and it says 728.86800000002 |
| 15:35.36 | hyperChipmunk | ok |
| 15:35.38 | hyperChipmunk | that's good |
| 15:35.57 | hyperChipmunk | did horde win the last match, by chance? |
| 15:36.03 | Lywellyn | Yep. We rock. |
| 15:36.14 | Lywellyn | -175.91100000002 |
| 15:36.17 | hyperChipmunk | I'll debate that, but that info makes me happy |
| 15:36.22 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
| 15:36.50 | Lywellyn | ahahaha |
| 15:38.04 | jme | horde ftw! |
| 15:39.34 | Lywellyn | Yeah, it's still reporting values inside of the BG too |
| 15:40.59 | hyperChipmunk | /dump aha |
| 15:41.06 | hyperChipmunk | i got it |
| 15:41.13 | Lywellyn | aha = nil. :p |
| 15:41.17 | hyperChipmunk | har |
| 15:41.21 | jme | :o |
| 15:41.49 | jdoss | Hello, where is the best place to submit bugs with Ace? |
| 15:42.21 | Xuerian | jdoss: Here, if the dev is here. |
| 15:42.27 | Xuerian | jdoss: Forum thread if they aren't. |
| 15:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | committed; update please =) |
| 15:43.18 | jdoss | Ok cool. I think it might just be my setup but whenever I use say spellthread on some legs or bind a pet to my char WoW blocks the action until all of my Ace related addons are disabled. |
| 15:43.38 | Lywellyn | Okay, I will when I'm finished with this BG. |
| 15:43.55 | Xuerian | jdoss: Have you eliminated them one by one/added them one by one till it breaks? |
| 15:44.20 | durcyn | bollocks. what was the script command to dump taint status of a frame? |
| 15:44.52 | jdoss | Well it goes down the chain of addons that have Ace in them. I have tried removing different combos but they all seem to just need to be disabled for the action to go through. |
| 15:45.18 | Xuerian | jdoss: Find the ones that by themself (along with ace if you're disembedding) that break it. |
| 15:45.19 | Xuerian | Report each |
| 15:45.38 | jdoss | Ok will do. |
| 15:45.39 | durcyn | (after updating EVERYTHING to latest) |
| 15:45.47 | Xuerian | Yeah :p |
| 15:45.48 | jdoss | Yea I use the Macaceupdater |
| 15:45.58 | jdoss | I tend to do it every week |
| 15:46.33 | jdoss | Like I said it might just be my setup. Thanks for the tips. =D |
| 15:46.52 | *** join/#wowace nighty (n=kek@c211-30-191-4.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 15:47.38 | *** join/#wowace bindi (i=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:48.29 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu) |
| 15:49.18 | *** join/#wowace shingo2 (n=shingo@p5487C025.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:59.10 | sbu | mhhhm |
| 15:59.15 | sbu | grid only has 2 'text' attributes? |
| 15:59.18 | sbu | center and center2? |
| 15:59.27 | sbu | so not possible to show texts in corners? (e.g. hot display) |
| 15:59.58 | hyperChipmunk | GridSideIndicators? |
| 16:00.06 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@APoitiers-256-1-19-187.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:00.11 | hyperChipmunk | it's a separate addon |
| 16:00.26 | mitch0 | my friggin cow-orker is an arse :[ |
| 16:01.08 | hyperChipmunk | i'm scared to ask what cow orking is |
| 16:02.19 | Saroz | wut! |
| 16:02.21 | Saroz | made wow crash |
| 16:03.07 | Saroz | someone try /dump strsplit(",", nil) |
| 16:03.46 | evl | ckknight: I just nuked my WTF and I the icons position option is greyed out even if it's enabled, anything I've missed? |
| 16:04.10 | Awaa | Saroz, aceconsole error |
| 16:05.53 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 16:06.08 | Saroz | Awaa, yea, guess it wasnt that :| |
| 16:06.10 | sbu | well hyperChipmunk, but its only for those little dots |
| 16:06.13 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 16:06.17 | sbu | hyperChipmunk: cant put "text" stuff there :/ |
| 16:06.21 | sbu | same with icons |
| 16:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | ah, well then quit yer whining |
| 16:10.38 | Wobin_ | oh man |
| 16:10.45 | Wobin_ | this new computer is fantastic |
| 16:10.48 | Wobin_ | I can see grass! |
| 16:10.56 | Wobin_ | and everything has texture! |
| 16:11.10 | *** part/#wowace Adirelle|Work (n=Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:11.15 | Wobin_ | It's like I've been playing in a room full of fog for the last 2 years =P |
| 16:11.27 | Wobin_ | I mean, I get up to 60fps! |
| 16:11.34 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 16:11.34 | Wobin_ | \o/ |
| 16:11.38 | hyperChipmunk | go wobman |
| 16:12.42 | Wobin_ | nu-uh |
| 16:12.45 | shieldb | anyone happen to have a screenshot of the pullout bars in omen that I can hijack? |
| 16:12.51 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=kaelten@69.109.103.158) |
| 16:12.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:13.05 | shieldb | got a friend who wanted to know what they looked like but I don't have any shots of it myself |
| 16:13.09 | Wobin_ | I carried that cpu home all by myself |
| 16:13.17 | Wobin_ | by the time I got there I couldn't feel my hands =P |
| 16:13.29 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/omenpullouttext.png |
| 16:13.29 | mitch0 | vacation ftw |
| 16:13.39 | Wobin_ | I aint letting go of it anytime soon =P |
| 16:13.39 | durcyn | and the police never caught you? |
| 16:13.39 | Kaelten | back |
| 16:13.46 | sbu | hyperChipmunk: bah :/ |
| 16:13.53 | Wobin_ | hyperChipmunk: no connection =( |
| 16:14.15 | mitch0 | seeya in a week |
| 16:14.15 | shieldb | hyperChipmunk, unable to establish a connection to the server |
| 16:14.15 | hyperChipmunk | oh, sec |
| 16:14.24 | hyperChipmunk | go |
| 16:14.32 | shieldb | woo, thanks |
| 16:14.49 | sbu | mh, any1 did tidewalker since 2.1.2 patch? |
| 16:14.57 | sbu | whats new with murloc hp? |
| 16:15.03 | shieldb | it isn't changed |
| 16:15.05 | shieldb | still 17k |
| 16:15.11 | sbu | hmhm okay |
| 16:15.22 | shieldb | the main thing people seem to be running into is tons of people banked points and got the new gladiator weapons |
| 16:15.23 | Tornhoof | no difference |
| 16:15.27 | shieldb | so you have a net increase in raid dps |
| 16:15.31 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 16:15.33 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@66.225.8.145) |
| 16:15.37 | Tornhoof | same results here |
| 16:15.47 | shieldb | however, they fixed the lurker water issue! |
| 16:15.58 | shieldb | boil the water, kill lurker, water unboils |
| 16:16.03 | shieldb | but the fish don't come back |
| 16:16.12 | sbu | yup |
| 16:16.26 | Cryect | oh thats nice |
| 16:16.43 | sbu | so you can swim to tidewalker ;o |
| 16:16.56 | shieldb | you can skip like 4 pulls, yeah |
| 16:17.09 | shieldb | oh, and the warrior murlocs in his room are sheepable now |
| 16:17.16 | Cryect | haha wtf |
| 16:17.19 | Matrix110 | ere |
| 16:17.25 | sbu | ah :o |
| 16:17.25 | Matrix110 | omg my typing lags |
| 16:17.38 | Matrix110 | they were always sheepable |
| 16:17.58 | shieldb | the warrior types, no - the rest of the murlocs were but not the warriors afaik |
| 16:18.03 | Cryect | Uh pretty sure first time we saw them they weren't |
| 16:18.20 | Megalon | murloc warriors were sheepable before |
| 16:18.47 | shieldb | I may be thinking of pre-2.1 |
| 16:18.56 | Megalon | well, don't know pre 2.1 |
| 16:18.59 | Cryect | I'm thinking like before any tuning at all and since then haven't tried to sheep anything unless they said it was sheepable then decide AOE was better anyways |
| 16:19.26 | Cryect | No reason not to tank them all at once and AOE them down |
| 16:19.47 | Cryect | while melee focuses on the healing ones :-p |
| 16:20.32 | *** join/#wowace Lysistrata124 (n=yousuck@unaffiliated/lysistrata) |
| 16:20.36 | shieldb | oh, and you can outrange watery grave (not sure if that's new) |
| 16:20.38 | Cryect | the nerfs to the trash basically turned most them into aoe pulls which was amusing |
| 16:20.38 | Lysistrata124 | Hi |
| 16:20.50 | Shirik | 12‹Lysistrata12412› Anyone got a clue why AceUpdater does not work? 1.9.3 doesn't do anything after I click "Reload Index" |
| 16:21.00 | Shirik | =P |
| 16:21.06 | Lysistrata124 | Thanks shieldb, that what I call support ;D |
| 16:21.15 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@141.211.233.248) |
| 16:21.15 | Lysistrata124 | Shirik |
| 16:21.26 | Lysistrata124 | stupid nick completion :( |
| 16:21.30 | Shirik | hehe |
| 16:21.49 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:21.58 | Shirik | hrm, is Kaelten here? |
| 16:22.12 | syeren | Hmm, what's the Ace 'Move Anything' addon, I'm sure one exists. |
| 16:22.13 | Kaelten | no |
| 16:22.18 | Wobin_ | Visor |
| 16:22.20 | Wobin_ | 2 |
| 16:22.21 | Shirik | oh well |
| 16:22.22 | Kaelten | syeren: there is KC_Mobility |
| 16:22.28 | Shirik | would you take a message for him then? ^^ |
| 16:22.35 | Kaelten | Shirik: :P whats up? |
| 16:22.52 | Shirik | s/poitn/point/ |
| 16:23.02 | shieldb | Cryect, have you guys tried outranging grave for the AOE tank on morogrim? makes it super easy |
| 16:23.21 | Kaelten | Shirik: http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 16:23.36 | Shirik | I don't use it, but Lysistrata124, there's your answer ^^ |
| 16:23.39 | *** part/#wowace Shirik (n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu) |
| 16:23.39 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu) |
| 16:23.42 | *** join/#wowace Wixti (n=wixti@212-98-42-53.static.adslpremium.ch) |
| 16:23.53 | syeren | Thanks :P |
| 16:24.06 | Lysistrata124 | Ah OK, Thanks! :D |
| 16:24.21 | Lysistrata124 | And thanks Shirik for doing all the work :) |
| 16:24.27 | Shirik | hehe |
| 16:24.27 | *** join/#wowace Crache\__ (n=ubuntu@cpe-70-113-20-137.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 16:24.36 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joADFkh48TY <-i lol'd @ worst reaction |
| 16:26.06 | Lywellyn | hyperChipmunk: HEYYY, it works now! Thanks! :D |
| 16:28.02 | Kaelten | lol |
| 16:28.07 | Kaelten | why don't you use it! huh? |
| 16:28.09 | trh_ | i'm lost |
| 16:28.24 | trh_ | anyone has a idea, why my friend could send a big list via acecomm to me with getting disconnect |
| 16:28.31 | Shirik | Fisker-: I liked worst stunt :P |
| 16:28.34 | trh_ | when sending the same list with my account it works |
| 16:28.40 | trh_ | when i send the same list with his account it works too |
| 16:28.55 | Shirik | Kaelten: very few ace mods anyway, and I prefer only to update when I need to ^^ |
| 16:29.55 | Kaelten | ~lart Shirik |
| 16:29.55 | purl | stuffs Shirik into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 16:29.59 | Kaelten | find be that way! |
| 16:30.00 | Kaelten | :P |
| 16:30.07 | Shirik | =P |
| 16:30.09 | hyperChipmunk | Lywellyn: fixed? |
| 16:30.16 | _art3mis | it seals in the flava! |
| 16:30.19 | Lywellyn | Yeps :D |
| 16:30.39 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 16:30.54 | art3mis | see that! |
| 16:30.59 | art3mis | Xuerian came out!@ |
| 16:31.06 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: Too bad for the ad, but you guys need some money to run the server for sure ^_^ |
| 16:31.08 | hyperChipmunk | if you wouldn't mind posting on the thread that it works now, I'd appreciate it very much |
| 16:31.15 | Lywellyn | zokay. |
| 16:31.38 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: ActionBar, Action Bar, Action Bars, three categories that are quite similar ^_^ |
| 16:32.06 | Kaelten | ya there are some issues with those |
| 16:32.16 | Kaelten | I'm torn between my ideals and my practicality on the fix though |
| 16:32.25 | pb_ee1 | File > Open log... is _very_ long :p |
| 16:32.43 | pb_ee1 | Aha i know why: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: FuBar_BattlegroundFu pubDate: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:00:17 +0000 |
| 16:32.48 | pb_ee1 | Pastey? |
| 16:33.22 | art3mis | laugh key |
| 16:33.26 | Wobin_ | ? |
| 16:33.27 | Lywellyn | Posted |
| 16:33.30 | Lywellyn | and wtf? |
| 16:33.30 | art3mis | err kem |
| 16:33.43 | pb_ee1 | ? |
| 16:33.47 | Kemayo | Nuts, didn't work. |
| 16:33.57 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 16:33.59 | Fisker- | shit sucks |
| 16:34.00 | art3mis | sure it did |
| 16:34.02 | pb_ee1 | Ho, thought I did something wrong ^^ |
| 16:34.04 | Fisker- | there |
| 16:34.13 | art3mis | you showed everyopne you dont like him ;) |
| 16:34.35 | *** part/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
| 16:34.36 | Kemayo | Sorry pb_ee1, forgot that other people would see the notice. :D |
| 16:34.47 | art3mis | better than sucking shit |
| 16:34.56 | pb_ee1 | Kemayo: No worries ;-) |
| 16:35.22 | Kemayo | I was testing a script, and pb_ee1 was the last person to say anything. Very embarassing. ;_; |
| 16:35.29 | art3mis | why would you be anti ban deodorant? |
| 16:35.51 | Fisker- | it's a physical object |
| 16:35.52 | art3mis | kemayo: yes, you've madfe yourself look like a jerk infront of 10's of people |
| 16:36.04 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: The software is working "as expected". The categories just appear because authors are not typing the categories correctly. Not your problem, I think. |
| 16:36.07 | art3mis | you don't gt to come back tomorrow, you dont even get a lousey copy of our home game |
| 16:36.12 | art3mis | you're a complete loser! |
| 16:36.15 | Kemayo | art3mis: Noooooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 16:36.25 | art3mis | name the song thats from ;P |
| 16:36.29 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: Do you want me to pastey the Exception I just went through? |
| 16:36.32 | Wobin_ | He does get a tacky jeweled pin though |
| 16:36.34 | art3mis | prove what a nerd you are |
| 16:36.51 | art3mis | Wobin_: he gets a free taint piercing ;P |
| 16:36.59 | Fisker- | is Kaelten here? |
| 16:37.00 | Wobin_ | not that sort of tacky =P |
| 16:37.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:37.06 | Kemayo | However will I return to my less nerdy hobby of writing wow addons? |
| 16:37.25 | art3mis | i don't know |
| 16:37.37 | art3mis | you've have to perceveer though |
| 16:37.43 | art3mis | wow i spelt THAT wrong |
| 16:37.53 | Josh_Borke | persevere ? |
| 16:38.01 | art3mis | and of course my fingers didnt lizten to my brain as i was typing |
| 16:38.11 | Wobin_ | you'll have to persevere? |
| 16:38.14 | art3mis | see z == s |
| 16:38.29 | *** join/#wowace NinjaChimp (n=chemp@host86-135-167-172.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:38.32 | art3mis | actually lizten looks cool with a zed |
| 16:38.32 | Cryect | hmm whats with all the notices :-p |
| 16:38.38 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc1-cove7-0-0-cust955.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:38.41 | art3mis | i think ill start speeling it that way |
| 16:39.08 | Chompers | 1400 5v5 rating, sweet |
| 16:39.15 | art3mis | wow! |
| 16:39.42 | art3mis | just a few more points and you can get a forklift to come get ya when you have a heartattack ;) |
| 16:39.50 | Chompers | the rating system doesnt work...at all |
| 16:39.58 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@213-205-67-125.net.novis.pt) |
| 16:39.59 | art3mis | its aprt of the Blizzard Online Support Plan for Fatties. |
| 16:40.03 | Chompers | i miss my 1800 rating :< |
| 16:40.22 | Cryect | you enjoying playing the 2200 rating teams again? :-p |
| 16:42.11 | Chompers | i dont mind 1800 rated teams, but the ones we're up against now are miles better |
| 16:42.25 | art3mis | i wish blizzard would team up with dominos so i can use wowgold to buy pizza and chicken kickers |
| 16:42.31 | *** join/#wowace Hotphoenix (n=blah@87.112.52.209) |
| 16:42.57 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.00 | art3mis | nods |
| 16:43.07 | art3mis | only real |
| 16:43.10 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:43.26 | Cryect | till you figure out wow gold requires a lot to be worth real money |
| 16:43.36 | art3mis | no way! |
| 16:43.49 | art3mis | epic mounts are worth sex on the open market |
| 16:43.53 | Wobin_ | something like $30 for 100g nowadays? |
| 16:43.55 | art3mis | craigslist proved that ;P |
| 16:44.11 | Wobin_ | craigslist often proves the underbelly of humanity is still up and running =P |
| 16:44.24 | Kaelten | sorry back |
| 16:44.27 | art3mis | without it where would the whroes and pervs talk to each other |
| 16:44.30 | Kaelten | had to take my keyboard apart |
| 16:44.33 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 16:44.34 | art3mis | cl is doing a service |
| 16:44.35 | Cryect | you need to judge the person the sex is with |
| 16:44.51 | art3mis | if they werent there they'd be infecting other places instead of being all grouped together ;P |
| 16:46.44 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: Switching between logs is long, but it is already on the trac. I also had an exception after clicking on File > Show log..., but it is also on trac :p |
| 16:46.54 | art3mis | welp off to the opffice to fuck around with exchange and wait for my new video card to show up |
| 16:47.22 | Kaelten | ya trac is the db for bugs |
| 16:47.29 | Cryect | your office uses exchange >_> |
| 16:47.53 | pb_ee1 | Kaelten: Are you German? :p |
| 16:48.21 | Josh_Borke | morning tem |
| 16:48.37 | *** join/#wowace dotk (n=sigh@c211-30-191-4.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 16:49.30 | *** join/#wowace weab_ (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-141-213.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 16:49.35 | Kaelten | nope |
| 16:49.36 | Kaelten | why? |
| 16:49.45 | pb_ee1 | You often say "ya" :p |
| 16:50.06 | [Ammo] | euhm |
| 16:50.12 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: it's 'ja' |
| 16:50.19 | pb_ee1 | argh, right |
| 16:50.26 | pb_ee1 | Dumb I am :p |
| 16:50.27 | [Ammo] | Ya is english/american |
| 16:50.41 | pb_ee1 | Is it? |
| 16:51.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 16:51.16 | Chompers | okay, time to swap our rogue out for a caster, 1350 rating just isn't right |
| 16:51.22 | *** join/#wowace NinjaChimp (n=chemp@host86-135-167-172.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:52.22 | Kaelten | roughly. I'm from southern alabama |
| 16:52.49 | Azurewrath | Chompers: erm.. 1350 rating is.. uhm.. crap :p |
| 16:53.07 | pb_ee1 | I see, you're thousands kilometers from where I am ^_^ |
| 16:54.17 | Kaelten | well now I'm in san fran california |
| 16:54.22 | Josh_Borke | from BAMA?! |
| 16:54.26 | Josh_Borke | hehe |
| 16:54.32 | Kaelten | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 16:54.32 | purl | strangles Josh_Borke with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 16:54.39 | Kaelten | go finish linkview |
| 16:54.41 | Kaelten | troll |
| 16:54.43 | Kaelten | :P |
| 16:54.44 | Josh_Borke | :'( |
| 16:54.52 | Kaelten | ~comfort Josh_Borke |
| 16:54.53 | purl | There, there, Josh_Borke. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:54.54 | Josh_Borke | i moved on :-P |
| 16:55.29 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=andy@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 16:55.37 | Kaelten | :P |
| 16:55.59 | Josh_Borke | i kinda wanna get Guildbook working |
| 16:56.22 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (i=kenlyric@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 17:00.17 | *** join/#wowace Coldheart (i=cold@systembolaget.us) |
| 17:01.19 | *** join/#wowace Trae (n=october@ip72-210-79-232.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 17:02.26 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=andy@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 17:03.16 | *** join/#wowace CIA-22 (n=CIA@208.69.182.149) |
| 17:03.57 | hyperChipmunk | wb CIA-22 |
| 17:04.00 | hyperChipmunk | do you not suck now? |
| 17:06.19 | *** part/#wowace Trae (n=october@ip72-210-79-232.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 17:07.20 | cryogen | how do you move the classtimers bars? |
| 17:07.27 | Ominous | rofl timing |
| 17:07.33 | Ominous | i have literally just got back |
| 17:07.42 | Ominous | ./ct bar options player lock etc |
| 17:08.26 | cryogen | cheers |
| 17:13.30 | Ominous | kaelten: you here? |
| 17:13.37 | Kaelten | no |
| 17:13.44 | Kaelten | I'm experiancing an out of body experiance |
| 17:13.49 | Josh_Borke | out of mind? |
| 17:13.58 | Ominous | kaelten: any eta until wau2 has changelog support like wau1.9? |
| 17:14.00 | Kaelten | usually |
| 17:14.11 | Kaelten | Ominous: after the zip script is updated |
| 17:14.21 | Ominous | and also deleting the externals.xml like wau 1.9 |
| 17:15.03 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 17:15.24 | Ominous | s/externals/embeds/ |
| 17:18.04 | pb_ee1 | ~poke purl |
| 17:18.04 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:18.14 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl) |
| 17:18.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: new zip script? I assume it overwrites embeds.xml with an "empty" version for the ignore-external version? |
| 17:19.52 | pb_ee1 | Can an ItemId be equal to 0? |
| 17:19.58 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: we where going to rename it to _embeds.xml |
| 17:20.00 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host81-129-23-146.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:20.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: ah |
| 17:20.22 | Ominous | Kaelten: but if wills still be read by wow so better to delete? |
| 17:20.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Ominous: well, changing the name means the .toc wont point to it, so it wont be read. It'll just be an invalid toc entry. |
| 17:21.19 | Ominous | but wow reads every file in your addons dir when starting wow weather a toc refrences it or not so its just extra processing time |
| 17:21.56 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:21.57 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 17:22.03 | Josh_Borke | hi Funkeh` |
| 17:24.45 | ilifin | anyone experienced ArcHUD not hiding the default castingbar on logon? |
| 17:26.31 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.15 | Kaelten | it won't be executed though Ominous |
| 17:27.48 | NeoTron | Cryect: so my lock friend who installed recount uninstalled it |
| 17:28.01 | NeoTron | he was unable to concentrate on the fight, making sure dots were up, due to looking at too pretty graphs |
| 17:28.05 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:28.55 | Kaelten | ok guys I'm giving a way for you to say that your addon is unstable |
| 17:29.09 | Kaelten | should we assume that an addon that doesn't specify is unstable or stable? |
| 17:29.11 | Azurewrath | wtf... 19:28:02 [High King Maulgar] Melee [You] 8422(C) |
| 17:29.17 | *** join/#wowace awrr (i=awrr@doc-24-206-227-196.kw.tx.cebridge.net) |
| 17:29.19 | Azurewrath | i have 1660 armor... |
| 17:29.26 | Ominous | kaelten: unstable |
| 17:29.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: i think a default assumption of unstable is best |
| 17:29.35 | kenlyric | agreed |
| 17:29.50 | awrr | question: i want to use my own bar texture in pitbull's unitframes. where do i put the file? |
| 17:29.51 | kenlyric | then again, no mod author will ever set it as stable.... |
| 17:30.13 | NightHawkTheSane | course, if authors just merged to tags properly. >.> |
| 17:30.21 | kenlyric | rather than stable/unstable, maybe working/broken :) |
| 17:31.04 | Kaelten | well when wau2 starts giving people warnings saying X is marked as unstable do you wish to update anyway |
| 17:31.06 | Kaelten | there will be fun |
| 17:31.15 | *** join/#wowace Reality_ (n=Dek@rrcs-24-173-19-220.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:31.16 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 17:31.20 | NightHawkTheSane | thats totally the best kind of fun. |
| 17:31.20 | awrr | anybody? /cry |
| 17:31.23 | Ominous | kaelten: please god add an option to turn that off |
| 17:31.52 | Kaelten | Ominous: I will but I'll never tell you how to activate it |
| 17:32.03 | Ominous | ? |
| 17:32.06 | Ominous | oh |
| 17:32.14 | Ominous | ~whalecrit Kaelten |
| 17:32.15 | purl | ACTION crits Kaelten with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Kaelten dies |
| 17:32.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ... can I have your computer? :P |
| 17:32.55 | Reality_ | ~flee |
| 17:32.56 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 17:33.12 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:33.29 | NeoTron | lurker with 5 shadow priests => ez mode |
| 17:33.34 | NeoTron | wonder if anyone tried taht |
| 17:34.06 | Adirelle | Kaelten: ping ? |
| 17:34.10 | Reality_ | lurker is pretty easy anyways |
| 17:34.22 | pb_ee1 | ~commands |
| 17:34.26 | Reality_ | except when disco spouting, did they ever fix that bug? |
| 17:34.32 | pb_ee1 | ~help |
| 17:34.34 | NeoTron | didn't happen to us |
| 17:34.42 | NeoTron | dunno if it's because it's fixed or not |
| 17:34.46 | pb_ee1 | aha |
| 17:34.52 | NeoTron | I tried to ensure all non-dead adds were shepeed |
| 17:35.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 17:35.06 | Reality_ | it happens when you kill an add while he's in the process of casting spout |
| 17:36.09 | trh_ | Saroz: you're calling show and hide in sraidframes when InCombatLockdown is active |
| 17:36.14 | Killmore | it was fix, we tested keep a mob sheep for fun and its ok |
| 17:36.14 | Kaelten | back |
| 17:36.17 | Kaelten | Adirelle: sup? |
| 17:38.03 | Adirelle | Kaelten: something wrong with the packaging scripts |
| 17:38.22 | Kaelten | ? |
| 17:38.26 | Adirelle | Kaelten: take a look at http://files.wowace.com/SpellEventsLib/no-ext/SpellEventsLib.zip |
| 17:38.39 | Adirelle | Kaelten: the libs are embedded, so they are tagged as externals |
| 17:38.43 | Adirelle | s/so/though/ |
| 17:38.50 | pb_ee1 | ~babelfish fr en salut tout le monde |
| 17:38.58 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 17:39.44 | *** join/#wowace rpowers (n=rpowers@c-24-91-250-118.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 17:40.05 | Adirelle | Kaelten: I'd bet other zip are "corrupted" too, I've got some troubles with WAU and no-external yesterday, I had to check out from SVN to solve them |
| 17:40.16 | awrr | is there anybody here who can/will answer a quick question concerning pitbull? |
| 17:40.29 | Reality_ | awrr: depends on the question |
| 17:41.08 | *** join/#wowace dotk (n=sigh@c211-30-191-4.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 17:42.47 | *** join/#wowace Summoner (n=chatzill@ppp70-59.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 17:45.24 | Kaelten | someone link me zlib's license's text? |
| 17:46.02 | Saroz | trh_, mm where and why |
| 17:46.14 | trh_ | Saroz: in a raid while fighting, bugsacker reported it |
| 17:46.22 | Saroz | line? |
| 17:46.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: a quick google search says.. http://www.gzip.org/zlib/zlib_license.html |
| 17:47.27 | trh_ | Saroz: see query =) |
| 17:47.40 | *** join/#wowace Garns (n=blub@muedsl-82-207-207-108.citykom.de) |
| 17:50.30 | *** join/#wowace Ziout (n=chatzill@0x535876d7.aaanxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 17:51.30 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: new job? |
| 17:52.35 | pb_ee1 | ~wtf lmao |
| 17:53.21 | pb_ee1 | ~love purl |
| 17:53.22 | purl | If you love purl so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 17:53.39 | liquiem | ~wtf jfgi |
| 17:54.39 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@66.89.174.138.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 17:54.44 | Cryect | <NeoTron> he was unable to concentrate on the fight, making sure dots were up, due to looking at too pretty graphs |
| 17:54.45 | pb_ee1 | ~wtf sex |
| 17:54.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: yeah, I just got a new job :P |
| 17:54.55 | Cryect | haha did you tell him he doesn't have to use the realtime graphs :-p |
| 17:55.11 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: who with what? |
| 17:55.22 | yacoob | http://www.britishairways.com/travel/inet/public/en_gb - see a list of titles :D |
| 17:55.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: lol, company called the Active Network (active.com), doing SOA/webservice development |
| 17:55.49 | Kaelten | nice, congratz :) |
| 17:55.50 | Saint-N | whores! |
| 17:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks :) |
| 17:56.11 | Saint-N | yay i got my new video card today |
| 17:56.12 | CIA-22 | 03takadi * r41287 10Henge/Button.lua: Henge: Fix a couple typos that broke everything |
| 17:56.17 | Saint-N | its heavy |
| 17:56.21 | *** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:56.23 | pb_ee1 | > 4 kg? |
| 17:56.30 | Saint-N | i have a feeling im gonna have to replace the fan with a waterblock almost immediately |
| 17:56.33 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41288 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Fix some "No you can't do this in combat" stuff |
| 17:56.39 | Saint-N | its like 1lb |
| 17:56.43 | NeoTron | Cryect: I did |
| 17:56.43 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 17:56.47 | NeoTron | still found it funny |
| 17:56.57 | NeoTron | like if you have the toy you can't avoid it |
| 17:57.01 | Saint-N | x1950xt 256mb pci-e |
| 17:57.03 | NeoTron | I admit, I was gawking too |
| 17:57.15 | Cryect | Thats an amusing reason though |
| 17:57.18 | NeoTron | on lurker with moonkin/elemental shaman/heroism it was hard not to |
| 17:58.20 | Cryect | its more or less a precursor to Sparklines and a revisit to my combat graphs for people who are interested in that type of stuff |
| 17:58.36 | NeoTron | sparklines? |
| 17:59.00 | Cryect | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparklines |
| 17:59.16 | Cryect | The idea is instead of a bunch of individual windows |
| 17:59.28 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 17:59.31 | Leialyn | Does Omen determine the scale (width) of bars with ktm data and then just hide those bars? Cause if someone sends bugged "global" ktm aggro and I hide it, I get very small bars :o |
| 17:59.41 | Cryect | you have one window, a small graph on them plus a number and label allow them to sort if you want etc |
| 17:59.51 | Cryect | basically a tool better for raid leader analysis |
| 18:00.01 | NeoTron | so the graph history |
| 18:00.12 | Kinkx | Saroz - Any possibility to add a option not to auto-show the raid frames when you enter a Raid? :) |
| 18:00.21 | Cryect | Yeah except realtime |
| 18:00.21 | NeoTron | it would be nice if you could use that to view stats in the bar graph window |
| 18:00.33 | Saroz | Kinkx, why |
| 18:00.43 | NeoTron | btw it seems threat isn't available after combat is over or am I imagining things? |
| 18:01.06 | Kinkx | I don't use the raid frames that much, since i'm not a healer, but they are nice to have for certain things |
| 18:01.06 | Cryect | Well your threat gets reset to 0 so.... |
| 18:01.31 | Saroz | Kinkx, hrm, sure, but you can't make them visible while in combat |
| 18:01.50 | Kinkx | Yea, I know :) |
| 18:02.01 | Kinkx | Would love that option though ^^ |
| 18:02.40 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30449#z0z <-- what use does resistance have on pets for warlocks in raids? |
| 18:02.42 | Cryect | I prolly should setup a way to allow you to change what a graph is currently tracking |
| 18:03.04 | NeoTron | Cryect: I'd like to see threat generation for the past fights |
| 18:03.05 | Cryect | its a PvP trinket in PvE is all :-p |
| 18:03.17 | Cryect | well you can see that in the graph history |
| 18:03.18 | NeoTron | useful for tank evaluation to a degree |
| 18:03.22 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41289 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Switch this around |
| 18:03.29 | NeoTron | how do I do that? |
| 18:03.33 | sbu | mhm Saroz |
| 18:03.39 | Cryect | Oh I see what you are saying |
| 18:03.40 | NeoTron | I mean there's no threat entry to click on |
| 18:03.44 | Cryect | you can't compare people's threat :-p |
| 18:03.49 | sbu | could you implement debuff whitelist? |
| 18:03.51 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:03.59 | Cryect | Yeah, I will have to think up a solution for that |
| 18:04.01 | sbu | so "always show those buffs" |
| 18:04.04 | sbu | err debuffs |
| 18:04.17 | sbu | (nice for 'watery grave' (tidewalker) and stuff) |
| 18:04.18 | Saroz | sbu, mm, many want that, might have to add it |
| 18:04.20 | pb_ee1 | ~wikipedia sparklines |
| 18:04.33 | Saroz | sbu, I always play with "always show debuffs", so I don't mind :p |
| 18:04.41 | pb_ee1 | oO |
| 18:05.29 | sbu | Saroz: i dont want to see every fricking debuff :p |
| 18:05.33 | Cryect | heh whats the oO for |
| 18:05.38 | sbu | only dispellable + whitelist :p |
| 18:06.00 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41290 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Typo |
| 18:06.37 | sbu | so they are interestingi when 1. i can dispel them or 2. i explicitly added them (some interesting debuff to watch :o) |
| 18:06.52 | Saroz | sbu, I do |
| 18:07.04 | Saroz | sbu, I blacklist the few I don't |
| 18:07.21 | Saroz | aka. debuff auras |
| 18:07.24 | sbu | mh... |
| 18:07.37 | sbu | well but i cant debuff each poison/curse/... |
| 18:07.58 | sbu | err every |
| 18:08.09 | Saroz | Yayaya, will add it, sometime, debuff whitelist |
| 18:08.11 | sbu | would be like 2000 items in blacklist :) |
| 18:08.14 | sbu | hehe thank you ;) |
| 18:08.20 | Saroz | got like 10 in my blacklist |
| 18:14.41 | *** join/#wowace mitch0 (n=mitch@dsl217-197-178-215.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 18:14.52 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 18:15.00 | mitch0 | ckk: you around? |
| 18:15.21 | sbu | Omen-2.1r41232\OmenThreatBar.lua:401: Bad argument #2 to `GetThreat'. expected "string", got "nil" (nil)Threat-1.0-41214 (Threat-1.0):497: in function |
| 18:15.23 | sbu | hmhm fixed? |
| 18:18.17 | Kebinusan | can anyone recommend a dkp bid mod that doesnt require a client download |
| 18:18.32 | sbu | dkp is bad ;) |
| 18:18.35 | sbu | try epgp ;o |
| 18:18.51 | sbu | but i think lootster works that way |
| 18:19.09 | mitch0 | try finding a nice guild ;) |
| 18:19.23 | awrr | three choices for unitframe borders: blizz dialog, blizz tooltip, none |
| 18:19.44 | awrr | but the none leaves the black box up around the unitframes |
| 18:19.47 | awrr | this is madness |
| 18:20.10 | durcyn | no texture on the border, doesn't necessarily mean no border at all :o |
| 18:20.12 | awrr | and there's no option to adjust the background frame's alpha |
| 18:20.21 | durcyn | double negatives notwithstanding |
| 18:20.29 | *** join/#wowace anholt (n=anholt@fruit.freedesktop.org) |
| 18:20.34 | awrr | yeah, you're right |
| 18:20.40 | Fisker- | THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 18:20.51 | awrr | i just wish i knew where to go to make the background frame transparent |
| 18:20.55 | awrr | black boxes are ugly |
| 18:21.15 | Lyfe | Fisker-: that movie wasn't nearly as good as people make it sound like it is. |
| 18:21.25 | awrr | lies, lyfe |
| 18:22.01 | Lyfe | i still haven't quite figured out why they changed so many details. |
| 18:22.53 | Gnarfoz | because it's a movie |
| 18:23.01 | Gnarfoz | Troja wasn't any different, lawl |
| 18:23.16 | trh_ | this is madness! |
| 18:23.37 | *** join/#wowace boh (n=aby@81-174-22-192.dynamic.ngi.it) |
| 18:23.41 | trh_ | awrr: black boxes just suck... for real ;) |
| 18:23.52 | awrr | indeed, to hell with black boxes |
| 18:24.27 | awrr | i don't know enough about lua to figure out where it's making the frames have semi-transparent black backgrounds |
| 18:24.33 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r41291 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.tw.lua: |
| 18:24.33 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:24.33 | CIA-22 | - loot upgrade |
| 18:24.37 | awrr | i had the same problem with ag |
| 18:25.06 | awrr | so i just hid the unitframes in viewports where their frame background's were irrelevant |
| 18:26.15 | awrr | but i've moved on from there, so now i have ugly black boxes again |
| 18:27.42 | Kaelten | http://s23.org/wikistats/largest_html.php?sort=views_desc&th=0&lines=60 |
| 18:27.57 | Kaelten | we're # 56 :) |
| 18:28.37 | trh_ | Kaelten: wowwiki on #1.. woot |
| 18:29.22 | Kaelten | heh, ya bigger than en.wikipedia.com |
| 18:30.32 | trh_ | i doubt those numbers a bit ;) |
| 18:31.25 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:31.31 | Ominous | does func in aceoptions parse a value like toggle? |
| 18:31.32 | ckknight | I'm up |
| 18:31.34 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r41292 10GlobalStrings/ (GlobalStrings-2.1.2-enUS.lua GlobalStrings-2.1.2-zhTW.lua): |
| 18:31.34 | CIA-22 | GlobalStrings : |
| 18:31.34 | CIA-22 | -- Added enUS and zhTW GlobalStrings 2.1.2 |
| 18:31.47 | ckknight | mitch0: hey |
| 18:32.06 | ckknight | evl: if the icon's not shown, you can't move it. change to config mode. |
| 18:32.14 | ckknight | Saroz: pong |
| 18:32.46 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 18:32.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 18:32.55 | ckknight | trh_, Cryect: if we have a special debug version of Ace2, then there would be two separate code paths, which is typically not a good idea |
| 18:33.11 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-129-181.citizip.com) |
| 18:33.19 | Peoii | ckknight: Suggestion for cowtip after some playing: Allow disabling of tooltips while in combat (preferably 2 settings, one for frame, one for unit) For instance, I'd like to disable all of my frame tooltips, no matter the addon, while in combat. But my unit ones are fine. |
| 18:33.25 | trh_ | ckknight: maybe one that's not in the svn |
| 18:33.34 | ckknight | Peoii: wishlist |
| 18:33.43 | ckknight | trh_: no, separate codepaths are bad. |
| 18:33.54 | ckknight | trh_: also, I don't see the point |
| 18:34.09 | trh_ | Ace2 1.x MB +900kb |
| 18:34.12 | trh_ | that's the point |
| 18:34.34 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: happiness is showing up on all npc CowTips |
| 18:35.04 | durcyn | cowtip needs milk and cookies. |
| 18:35.07 | hyperChipmunk | and quest progress for quests I've already finished O_o |
| 18:35.19 | trh_ | ckknight: it's near to impossible to track which eventcalls caused the memory increase |
| 18:35.21 | hyperChipmunk | oh n/m that last |
| 18:35.30 | hyperChipmunk | i i didn't finish that quets |
| 18:35.37 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: oh, okay, lemme fix that |
| 18:35.50 | ckknight | quest progress? |
| 18:36.02 | ckknight | CowTip doesn't add quest stuff |
| 18:36.11 | hyperChipmunk | strange =) |
| 18:36.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: wow, wikipedia's only 14? *boggle* |
| 18:36.30 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX5V_9s0G |
| 18:36.53 | Saroz | ckknight, I forgot my ping :p -- but fix the banzai thing in pitbull :p |
| 18:37.02 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: thats just the english site |
| 18:37.10 | ckknight | btw, Antiarc|Work, the whole transfer process only took 45 minutes |
| 18:37.16 | Antiarc|Work | wow, nice |
| 18:37.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: true, but i'm still a bit surprised. |
| 18:38.10 | Fisker- | ou're doing it wrong Antiarc |
| 18:38.16 | ckknight | ~listkeys ~~~ |
| 18:38.26 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics |
| 18:38.28 | Antiarc|Work | o.0 |
| 18:38.35 | Fisker- | link is invalid |
| 18:38.49 | Kaelten | keep in mind that that doesn't ness dictate usage, just content |
| 18:39.13 | Saroz | is lines in a tablet completely random? it doesn't seem to obay the insert order |
| 18:39.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: yeah, still interesting |
| 18:39.34 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.51 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fwz743gZA8 may be the greatest thing ever |
| 18:41.14 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 18:41.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:41.44 | *** join/#wowace wallen (n=aby@81-174-37-57.dynamic.ngi.it) |
| 18:42.45 | Tupsi | anyone using friendminder? |
| 18:42.59 | Tupsi | alway getting some non critical error when starting it up |
| 18:43.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: lol |
| 18:43.12 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 18:43.49 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-29e6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:45.16 | *** part/#wowace NightHawkTheSane (n=duaiwe@65-102-188-188.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 18:45.20 | *** join/#wowace NightHawkTheSane (n=duaiwe@65-102-188-188.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 18:45.28 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@213-205-67-125.net.novis.pt) |
| 18:46.32 | Fisker- | lol |
| 18:46.41 | Fisker- | dead people in chinese wow are tombstones instead of skeletons |
| 18:47.32 | deltron | lol |
| 18:47.39 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r41293 10Tattle/Gladiator_EU21/EU21.lua: Tattle: updated playerdata EU-Todbringer |
| 18:48.36 | Ominous | ckknight: i dont know if its a bug but if you set table = {['*'] = true } then table['*'] = false then you need to /rl to get it to change |
| 18:48.44 | Ominous | when you query table[somevalue] |
| 18:48.55 | *** join/#wowace MadMonk (n=Nuno_Alv@bl10-157-132.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 18:49.07 | ckknight | for AceDB? |
| 18:49.44 | Ominous | ya |
| 18:49.51 | BankZ | Violation is missing to major features, able to filter out non-combat data and disable/hide when not in group :( |
| 18:50.00 | Saroz | true |
| 18:50.18 | Ominous | ckknight: also donate seems to have stopped close showing in my dewdrop menu |
| 18:50.28 | Ominous | in classtimer which used to show |
| 18:50.40 | Kaelten | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/wsvg-live/ |
| 18:50.43 | Kaelten | anyone thats interested |
| 18:50.49 | ckknight | there's no reason that would happen |
| 18:51.09 | deltron | Kaelten: that's pretty neat |
| 18:51.43 | *** join/#wowace abyssichate (n=aby@81-174-21-68.dynamic.ngi.it) |
| 18:51.59 | hyperChipmunk | dewdrops are a crapshoot when it comes to the auto-generated options, i found |
| 18:52.05 | hyperChipmunk | i've* |
| 18:52.09 | *** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 18:52.17 | deltron | are they forced to use default ui? |
| 18:53.33 | Mikk | dewdrop is prolly a hell of a lot better when used with handlers |
| 18:53.45 | Mikk | handler = someobj |
| 18:53.49 | Mikk | set = "funcname" |
| 18:54.08 | Mikk | since handler is inherited to leaf nodes |
| 18:54.12 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but they're still prone do doing wacky things |
| 18:54.26 | Cryect | so Kaelten thats just http://www.thewsvg.com/ with curse ads instead? |
| 18:54.29 | hyperChipmunk | like spawn 6 'About' entries |
| 18:54.34 | Mikk | o.O |
| 18:54.36 | ZealotOnAStick | deltron: for the tournament, yes. |
| 18:54.42 | Kaelten | Cryect: lol, probably |
| 18:54.47 | Cryect | and no they don't use default UI exactly |
| 18:54.52 | Cryect | its a specialized UI for the tourney |
| 18:54.58 | Cryect | its mainly default though |
| 18:55.10 | Mikk | that's gotta hurt |
| 18:55.14 | ZealotOnAStick | They get pre-generated, pre-geared characters, they've got a certain amount of time beforehand to spec as they wish and set up their UI - within what can be done with stock blizzard. |
| 18:55.47 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:55.53 | hyperChipmunk | dude, i'd start /scripting |
| 18:55.59 | Mikk | hehe yeah =) |
| 18:56.03 | ckknight | Kaelten: not too many attractive people there |
| 18:56.13 | deltron | hah |
| 18:56.17 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:56.24 | deltron | you mean they look like ogres? |
| 18:56.34 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I was totally thinking that. |
| 18:56.43 | Cryect | heh was what I was told <sekdar`itsabouttime> default action bars, a nurfed-style unitframe, spell alert, and some other shit |
| 18:56.43 | Mikk | Bill Bailey? o.O |
| 18:56.44 | Ominous | ok ckknight this is what i do, /print ClassTimer.db.profile.table.test --> true /run ClassTimer.db.profile.table['*'] = false /print ClassTimer.db.profile.table.test --> true /rl /print ClassTimer.db.profile.table.test --> false |
| 18:56.55 | Cryect | so slightly better than default UI :-p |
| 18:57.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41294 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - only show happiness on your own pet. |
| 18:57.27 | ckknight | Ominous: that is by far not how AceDB is supposed to work. |
| 18:57.32 | Ominous | ok |
| 18:57.46 | Morghus | Why doesn't "/cast [target=mouseover] Devour Magic;[target=player,help] Devour Magic" work? |
| 18:57.47 | ckknight | Ominous: you do _not_ _ever_ set ['*'] outside of defaults |
| 18:57.59 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 18:58.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Morghus: well, why do you have "player,help" there? Player is you, so it's always helpful not harmful. |
| 18:59.02 | hyperChipmunk | sometimes i stab myself =\ |
| 18:59.04 | Mikk | Morghus: And uhmm [target=mouseover]? |
| 18:59.16 | hyperChipmunk | and don't even get me started about my engineering devices |
| 19:00.23 | Megalon | morghus: try "/cast [target=mouseover,exist,nodead] Devour Magic;[target=player,help] Devour Magic" |
| 19:00.25 | hyperChipmunk | player,help should evaluate whenever you've got an engineering trinket equipped |
| 19:00.44 | hyperChipmunk | s/help/harm/ |
| 19:01.17 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41295 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 19:01.17 | CIA-22 | DewdropLib: |
| 19:01.17 | CIA-22 | - Decrease Dewdrop in size ~200 lines by centralizing all the function/handler-method verification and calling stuff |
| 19:01.17 | CIA-22 | - Make onClick/isChecked work with handlers |
| 19:01.40 | Mikk | (less "argh" error messages too) |
| 19:01.54 | abyssichate | Is anyone else using Prat's timestamps set to server time? They don't seem to be matching with it |
| 19:03.03 | Morghus | Thank you all, advices will be tested :) |
| 19:03.32 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41296 10BulkMail2/BulkMail2.toc: |
| 19:03.32 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 19:03.32 | CIA-22 | - X-Website changed to wiki page (http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2) |
| 19:03.37 | ckknight | man, if I was at that arena tournament, I would've totally named the team "The Stephen Colberts" |
| 19:04.05 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41297 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMail2Inbox.toc: |
| 19:04.05 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 19:04.05 | CIA-22 | - X-Website changed to wiki page (http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2Inbox) |
| 19:04.22 | hyperChipmunk | my team is the Fruit Vendor Defenders |
| 19:04.32 | Antiarc|Work | <-- Keyboard Turners |
| 19:04.37 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 19:04.42 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah, actually |
| 19:04.46 | Antiarc|Work | My 3v3 team name is Cow Tippers |
| 19:04.49 | Antiarc|Work | :V |
| 19:05.52 | Antiarc|Work | So is CIA dead? |
| 19:05.57 | hyperChipmunk | no, he's back |
| 19:06.03 | Morghus | Megalon: It tells me exist is not a macro option |
| 19:06.10 | hyperChipmunk | exists |
| 19:06.25 | zac | ckknight: Not sure if anybody's mentioned it, but it looks like CowTip's Zone is showing faction, not zone. |
| 19:06.35 | ckknight | erg |
| 19:06.45 | ckknight | fucking unparsable tooltips |
| 19:06.58 | *** join/#wowace ag` (i=Andreas@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:09.37 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: if you get extraneous inexplicable shit in dewdrops generated from aceoptions, it's usually because you've recycled a submenu item without removing its ref from the aceoptions table. then later on something else picks up on it and fills it out with new stuff. |
| 19:10.01 | liquiem | Kaelten, thanks for the link |
| 19:10.14 | liquiem | but now i cant decide what to watch... wc3l finals or wsvg :( |
| 19:11.32 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: if you're up for a true challenge, try making the BulkMail2/BulkMail2Inbox fubar plugin show 'normally' |
| 19:12.00 | hyperChipmunk | i've spent hours literally trying every combination of options |
| 19:12.05 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5485895F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:12.08 | hyperChipmunk | and have had no luck whatsoever |
| 19:17.24 | Chesy | ckknight: Could you add the ability to add more blank space bars in pitbull? |
| 19:17.36 | ckknight | no |
| 19:17.43 | ckknight | why do you need it? |
| 19:17.55 | Chesy | i want one for the name and one for class :P |
| 19:18.07 | Kaelten | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT81VGspCrA&mode=related&search= |
| 19:18.45 | cryogen | i need to cut back on my addons, takes about 3 weeks to log in now :) |
| 19:19.15 | *** join/#wowace Keias (n=blah@c-69-245-245-157.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 19:19.24 | hyperChipmunk | : PitBull-r41261\PitBull_MetaLayout.lua:1324: table index is nil |
| 19:20.32 | Saint-N | well that one that shows a full wide screen shot of goatse.cx prolly isnt helping yer load speeds |
| 19:21.23 | Saint-N | ya know what i love about pitbull? |
| 19:21.35 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: debugstack? |
| 19:21.36 | NeoTron | Things we don't want to see: Goatese.cx the 3D graphical adventure |
| 19:21.40 | ckknight | Saint-N: what's that? |
| 19:21.49 | Saint-N | that its smart enough to do all thisauto config stuff and look sexy but not smart enough to auto space when the buffs are below the frame in a party or raid |
| 19:22.04 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: That already exists |
| 19:22.10 | ckknight | Saint-N: blame Blizz, not me |
| 19:22.11 | Saint-N | is that on purpose? |
| 19:22.27 | ckknight | yes, because Blizz won't allow arbitrary movement |
| 19:22.29 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: I .. I don't know what to say |
| 19:22.30 | Saint-N | all other uf's auto space, thought it odd that pitbull doesnt |
| 19:22.37 | Saint-N | oh |
| 19:22.37 | ckknight | no, they don't |
| 19:22.38 | NeoTron | I don't think I wanted to know that |
| 19:22.41 | Saint-N | yeah they do |
| 19:22.47 | Saint-N | go load up aguf and join a party |
| 19:22.55 | Saint-N | with buffs set under the winder |
| 19:22.59 | Saint-N | itll space em out |
| 19:23.02 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/games/missilegame3d |
| 19:23.13 | Saint-N | unless this is a new 2.1 thing that ive been ignorant about |
| 19:23.19 | ckknight | Saint-N: you do realize you can change the spacing manually? |
| 19:23.23 | NeoTron | do I really want to follow that link? |
| 19:23.23 | Saint-N | oh yeah |
| 19:23.42 | Saint-N | i just thought it odd that with all the other stuff it could do that it didnt auto do it ;P |
| 19:23.56 | Saint-N | based on where you choose for the buffs to appear of course |
| 19:24.17 | Saint-N | and then i thought hmm ckk is an odd duck, maybe this is on purpose |
| 19:24.42 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/61600 |
| 19:24.47 | Saint-N | and that was followed by "i should comment on it in a sarcastic way on irc to get his attention so my question about "on purpose" would be answered" ;) |
| 19:25.35 | Saint-N | welp time for fresh salsa and chips and installation of a new video card |
| 19:25.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41298 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 19:25.38 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - make it so [Zone] only works on players. |
| 19:25.38 | CIA-22 | - make [Faction] show more descriptively for NPCs, e.g. Exodar instead of Alliance. |
| 19:25.40 | Saint-N | ciao for a bit |
| 19:26.59 | durcyn | i wasn't aware that "making a total wanker of oneself" was an accepted form of communication now |
| 19:28.25 | mitch0 | ckk: I've added the [Range] description in DogTag's wiki. I didn't want to open a whole new subsection for it, so I just put it amongst "Status" stuff |
| 19:28.44 | ckknight | that's fine |
| 19:29.23 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: "This is the internet. Exchanging death threats is like a firm handshake hello." |
| 19:29.45 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: What are your thoughts on some kind of in-game documentation/help system for DogTag that can be leveraged by DogTag-using apps? |
| 19:29.54 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: oi. diaf. |
| 19:29.57 | Antiarc|Work | I mean, I'm a developer and it's hard for me to figure out how to express what I want to do. |
| 19:30.11 | ckknight | thought about it... |
| 19:30.19 | ckknight | figured it's easier to link to the wiki |
| 19:30.24 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 19:30.39 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: lol, amusingly, that's almost exactly what I said to my friend when she gave me that quote :P |
| 19:31.09 | Antiarc|Work | I'm envisioning something like a little ? button you could click next to a dogtag entry field that would pop up a dialog that had a list of tags, clicking a tag would show what it does, double-clicking inserts it and closes the dialog. |
| 19:31.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: the problem with the wiki is that it's a list-style structure, which as dogtag gets larger, gets vastly unwieldy to navigate |
| 19:31.36 | vrak | this isn't strictly ace related, but has anyone ever experienced capping the five towers in terokkar, goofing off somewhere else for a little while (30mins or so) and then come back to see the place neutral and cappable in 1.5hrs ? |
| 19:31.59 | Antiarc|Work | Can't say I have |
| 19:32.01 | hyperChipmunk | vrak: means outland went down |
| 19:32.05 | Antiarc|Work | But I don't usually pay attention to that |
| 19:32.21 | hyperChipmunk | you must've been in an instance or on a different continent |
| 19:32.39 | hyperChipmunk | there's a 2h grace period on outland reset that it stays neutral |
| 19:32.44 | durcyn | hrm, what about a dewdrop with categories, then drop-downs for tags |
| 19:33.02 | vrak | that's pretty damn annoying, tbfh |
| 19:33.07 | durcyn | could even use it as a picker to populate the fields |
| 19:33.19 | vrak | :( |
| 19:33.35 | *** join/#wowace ben (i=KekVSLBm@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 19:33.37 | hyperChipmunk | what does blizz use for their new help frame? |
| 19:34.07 | ben | How hard would it be to write a Cartographer plugin that just draws a long line in the direction the player is facing so that it is easier to navigate |
| 19:34.27 | Antiarc|Work | ben: I'm not sure you can get that rotation info |
| 19:34.28 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: yeah, something like that would be neat. |
| 19:34.37 | durcyn | ben: trivial, assuming there aren't size constraints on the arrow texture |
| 19:34.46 | ben | Oh, huh. |
| 19:35.01 | durcyn | there's already a Look'n'Feel module for changing the player arrow size |
| 19:35.02 | ben | How about a noise alert that is hearable when WoW is minimised when I have reached a destination |
| 19:35.10 | ben | you can set the "sound even if minimised" options from addons, right? |
| 19:35.24 | durcyn | if it's a CVar, you can. but it's global. |
| 19:35.51 | durcyn | and yes, you could toss in a PlaySound or PlaySoundFile in Waypoints, if you were so inclined |
| 19:35.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I imagine it wouldn't be difficult to have a sound go off when a waypoint arrow is "removed" due to reaching destination |
| 19:37.40 | vhaarr | Mikk: Nice work on dewdrop |
| 19:38.48 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Do you have any plans to implement graphical bars in CowTip? |
| 19:38.59 | Antiarc|Work | It seems like it'd be pretty trivial to do |
| 19:39.28 | ckknight | yea, for health/mana, I'm thinking |
| 19:39.33 | Antiarc|Work | Threat too |
| 19:39.57 | alext | cowtip hmmm |
| 19:40.14 | Ominous | CowTip? |
| 19:40.16 | mitch0 | threat showes up everywhere nowadays :) |
| 19:40.27 | alext | CowTip r41294 2007-06-22 19:21:50 Tooltip of awesomeness. Moo. It'll graze your pasture. (ckknight) |
| 19:40.29 | alext | dude |
| 19:40.30 | Antiarc|Work | There are lots of places that you can use threat information :) |
| 19:40.31 | alext | is this like |
| 19:40.34 | alext | pitbull for tooltips |
| 19:40.34 | alext | ? |
| 19:40.39 | Matrix110 | no |
| 19:40.41 | ckknight | no |
| 19:40.42 | Matrix110 | Pitbull=unitframe |
| 19:40.44 | Antiarc|Work | That doesn't really make sense :P |
| 19:40.45 | alext | i know |
| 19:40.47 | alext | yes it does |
| 19:40.50 | NightHawkTheSane | its more like a tooltip mod, for tooltips. |
| 19:40.51 | alext | look at the comments |
| 19:40.55 | alext | pitbull is WOOF |
| 19:40.57 | ckknight | as PitBull is to unitframes, CowTip is to tooltips |
| 19:40.57 | alext | unitframes |
| 19:40.59 | Antiarc|Work | If you mean "is it a tooltip mod by ckknight" then yes :P |
| 19:41.01 | alext | cowtip is MOO |
| 19:41.04 | durcyn | pitbull:unitframes::cowtip:tooltips |
| 19:41.07 | alext | well yah thats kinda what i was getting at |
| 19:41.12 | alext | i know cowtip obviously isnt a unitframe |
| 19:41.12 | ckknight | yes, then |
| 19:41.16 | alext | but its the same style/quality/etc |
| 19:41.20 | alext | sweet |
| 19:41.26 | ckknight | try it out |
| 19:41.26 | ckknight | ] |
| 19:41.28 | alext | will do ;] |
| 19:42.09 | alext | the recent craziness with tinytip on the google code site then back on wowace is confusing |
| 19:42.17 | alext | would be nice to try something else out aka this |
| 19:42.44 | mitch0 | tinytip is back on wowace? |
| 19:42.51 | alext | i still get updates for it |
| 19:42.54 | durcyn | the delete was reverted. |
| 19:42.54 | alext | not sure if its a branch |
| 19:42.57 | alext | or what |
| 19:43.05 | durcyn | but no new development is being done on the wowace version |
| 19:43.18 | Saroz | It's a tooltip mod |
| 19:43.23 | Saroz | dont need new development |
| 19:43.36 | durcyn | i'm not touching that one. |
| 19:43.37 | *** join/#wowace Bibi (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-105-194.w90-35.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:44.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Saroz: and you're more than welcome to continue using the existing version of tinytip on wowace ;) |
| 19:44.05 | Thrae | TinyTip is now on the Google SVN, which -is- getting updates. It is much smaller and more modular now. I'm working on the module core right now. |
| 19:44.12 | Saroz | I am already NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:44.18 | Saroz | for a year now |
| 19:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Saroz: hence why i said "continue" :P |
| 19:44.50 | alext | Thrae: ah cool, i know at some point it pointed me to the google code site but I saw nothing there |
| 19:44.54 | alext | was kinda confusing |
| 19:45.30 | Thrae | alext: That's because it was on the SVN, which I thought was clear since WoWAce is a SVN, but I think files.wowace.com and WAU confuse people ;) |
| 19:45.49 | alext | yeah |
| 19:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | it only confuses dumb people, and it's okay to confuse them, because it's funny. :P |
| 19:47.07 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r41299 10ClassTimer/ (7 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: Back to new system, but options for max time to track for and a opt in and opt out option. |
| 19:47.21 | alext | I wouldnt go so far to call people that dont understand SVN dumb |
| 19:47.26 | alext | just means their not coders ;] |
| 19:47.39 | alext | and they dont work with versioning systems |
| 19:48.13 | *** join/#wowace khaki[wtf] (i=khaki72n@74-133-65-248.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 19:48.21 | Thrae | alext: Well, that's the problem. People -should- know that WoWAce IS a SVN, which means all projects here are in a state of development. Some people use it to "release" their addons, but you shouldn't expect anything here to always be stable. |
| 19:48.44 | Mikk | Well.. end-users treat files.wowace as a release mechanism |
| 19:48.52 | Mikk | People using SVN might be subjected to whatever ofc |
| 19:48.54 | NightHawkTheSane | it's fairly trivial to, at worst case, google a bit and learn, so if people don't understand and don't do that.. well yeah.. that's dumb. |
| 19:49.08 | Mikk | err.. SVN is decidedly nontrivial |
| 19:49.09 | alext | yeah |
| 19:49.21 | Mikk | joe user ain't going to set up an SVN client |
| 19:49.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I never said he should |
| 19:49.57 | NightHawkTheSane | merely that it's trivial to have a basic understanding of what version control software is |
| 19:49.59 | NeoTron | Ominous: does classtimer use the new own-debuff-api stuff blizzard added? |
| 19:50.09 | Ominous | NeoTron: ofc :) |
| 19:50.24 | NeoTron | kk |
| 19:50.29 | Thrae | Mikk: Is TortoiseSVN really -that- hard to setup? :D |
| 19:50.33 | NeoTron | seems to work fine for me at least |
| 19:50.53 | durcyn | joe user shouldn't be checking code out from source control, ever. |
| 19:50.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: depends, some of the people who come in here seem to have the most amazing difficulty with it. >< |
| 19:51.05 | durcyn | that's why he's joe user. |
| 19:51.15 | NeoTron | so we have ppl in the guild who needed significant help to download and install a normal addon |
| 19:51.20 | Thrae | Joe user should help with testing too! |
| 19:51.23 | Mikk | Well.. lemme put it this way |
| 19:51.31 | Mikk | If you're programming, your IQ is probably well over 120 |
| 19:51.35 | Mikk | If you're a really really sharp one, it's well over 130 |
| 19:51.44 | ckknight | or me, it's well over a bajillion |
| 19:51.45 | Mikk | The "average person" has 100 |
| 19:51.51 | Antiarc|Work | By definition, half the population is of below average IQ. ;) |
| 19:51.57 | Thrae | My IQ is over NINE-THOUSAND!!!!111one |
| 19:52.04 | durcyn | yes, well, someone has to mop the floors. |
| 19:52.08 | NightHawkTheSane | My IQ is i. |
| 19:52.14 | Mikk | Added to this, joe wow player probably doesn't know the first thing about software development nor versioning to begin with |
| 19:52.16 | Antiarc|Work | My IQ's a lot higher when you don't measure it |
| 19:52.23 | Thrae | durcyn: You racist! Are you saying Mexicans are unintelligent?!?! |
| 19:52.25 | durcyn | anyway, let the people smart enough to test, test. let the barrier to entry keep the 13-year old PFY's out. |
| 19:52.28 | Mikk | Hell, most devs spend a few hours in pain when they're first confronted with the concept of version control |
| 19:52.33 | Mikk | And they're 120+, like i said |
| 19:52.44 | Ominous | svn is horrible when you start with it |
| 19:52.48 | durcyn | Thrae: you're the one who brought race into it, but thanks for trolling. |
| 19:53.05 | Ominous | though tsvn is very good to start with and then when you have got to grips command line > tsvn |
| 19:53.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: honestly, I beg to differ. the basic concepts behind version control, why its used, and what it's used for are -very- simple. |
| 19:53.08 | Mikk | Ominous: no, all source control is. I had no problem whatsoever starting with SVN, but i've used source code control for years |
| 19:53.27 | Ominous | Mikk: svn is the only one i know |
| 19:53.32 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: And? Joe user still ain't gonna get it :P |
| 19:53.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: and anyone with a working brain cell should be able to understand that. They don't have to have a working knowledge of how to USE version control, merely the basics of what and why |
| 19:53.40 | Mikk | Ominous: Yup. Hence your problems with it =) |
| 19:53.48 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: I know otherwise sharp developers that have issues wih version control system |
| 19:53.52 | Thrae | durcyn: I was making a joke. You're near Texas, right? Should be right in the thick of all the political nonsense ;) |
| 19:53.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: point being, the concept of "wowace being an svn" shouldn't confuse anyone. |
| 19:54.00 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: How old are you? |
| 19:54.07 | Mikk | Serious question here |
| 19:54.10 | NeoTron | thing is if you "get it" it might be almost impossible to realize how one possibly could not |
| 19:54.21 | durcyn | Thrae: in it, as the hostmask indicates. maybe it just wasn't funny. |
| 19:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: 28, but why does that matter? |
| 19:54.24 | Mikk | You're sounding like most developers I've known that are ~17-21ish |
| 19:54.46 | Ominous | now i understand it i dont understand how i didnt but i didnt have a clue about it to start with, |
| 19:54.49 | Mikk | Where they still think that their view of the world is so clear that surely everyone else has to see it that way |
| 19:54.59 | NeoTron | a large number of wow users can't figure out what a zip file is and how you install it .. without help |
| 19:55.04 | Mikk | ^ |
| 19:55.08 | Mikk | That's joe user |
| 19:55.14 | Antiarc|Work | To be honest, I think it's completely ridiculous to expect your users to even recognize what "SVN" means. |
| 19:55.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: I don't expect everyone to see it the same way as me. I -do- expect everyone to put the effort into learning as much as they can, however. |
| 19:55.29 | Thrae | Mikk, durcyn is being mean to me! |
| 19:55.32 | Ominous | ckknight: a 30 line tooltip oO |
| 19:55.37 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: as beautiful that idea is, it's unrealistic |
| 19:55.42 | ckknight | Ominous: yea? |
| 19:55.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: but then, I'm often disappointed, and have a low opinion of most of humanity. |
| 19:55.49 | Antiarc|Work | My wife's a very non-power user. She's extremely intelligent, but WAU is about as complex as she wants to get for WoW mods. |
| 19:55.51 | ckknight | Ominous: that's the max, at least |
| 19:56.07 | Saroz | anyone remember the command to get and set the UI scale? |
| 19:56.10 | Ominous | heh, its just quite bug |
| 19:56.12 | Antiarc|Work | It's hard to teach someone about something they have zero interest in learning about :) |
| 19:56.12 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, but that bar "as much as they can" is a hell of a lot lower for 90% of the population than it is for you. Remember that. :O |
| 19:56.14 | NeoTron | my wife can solve any computer problem she runs into easily |
| 19:56.21 | NeoTron | ... by asking me to fix it |
| 19:56.24 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 19:56.35 | ckknight | lol, NeoTron |
| 19:56.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: only if you treat them like it is. *shrug* |
| 19:56.45 | Thrae | Saroz: UIParent:GetScale() and UIParent:SetScale() will work, and so will GetCVar("uiscale") and SetCVar("uiscale", foo) |
| 19:57.03 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Thing is, why would the user learn about something that is of absolutely zero benefit to them? |
| 19:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I generally expect people to be attempting to excel above themselves. *shrug* |
| 19:57.12 | Antiarc|Work | I mean, only a developer needs to know what SVN is and how to use it. |
| 19:57.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: if you're going interact with a system that uses version control, then that's a reason and concern to learn something about it. |
| 19:57.42 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r41300 10DKPmon_BossAuction/ (DKPmon_BossAuction.toc custom.lua example.lua): |
| 19:57.42 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_BossAuction: |
| 19:57.42 | CIA-22 | Prevent your custom.lua file from being overwritten by svn updates |
| 19:57.47 | Thrae | Saroz: The latter is the variable changed in the Interface Options menu. Probably better to do UIParent:GetScale() and SetCVar("uiscale", foo), as I am pretty sure the cvar only affects UIParent. |
| 19:57.54 | Kinkx | Smart talk alert! |
| 19:58.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: which is where the entire discussion started. the fact that people using wowace (and specifically files.woace) might be confused by the concept of it being an svn repo |
| 19:58.13 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: all joe user needs to know is "version X is available and that is newer than my version Y" |
| 19:58.28 | Mikk | No, really, no joke. People's brains ARE wired differently. For most people here, we genuinely like thinking in logical paths "A follows B, and C follows B, so clearly C has to be after A." There really is a boatload of people that never even do that. Calling them "stupid" is way off. But calling them unlogical is precisely to the point. |
| 19:58.30 | NeoTron | in reality files.wowace.com is too much for the average user |
| 19:58.33 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: So you're saying that you understand how a catalytic converter works, then? |
| 19:58.48 | NeoTron | they should have a stable.wowace.com where authors copy files when they are tested/ready for a reivison bump.. |
| 19:58.55 | Thrae | Quick! Down the Jeffries Tubes! |
| 19:58.59 | Antiarc|Work | (since when you drive someone, you're interacting with a system that uses a catalytic converter) |
| 19:59.00 | *** join/#wowace trh (n=hmmm@e179052064.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:59.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 19:59.07 | Antiarc|Work | s/someone/somewhere/ |
| 19:59.15 | Thrae | NeoTron: Kaelten is working on supporting tags. |
| 19:59.16 | Mikk | Antiarc also has an excellent point :> |
| 19:59.32 | NeoTron | Thrae: yeah I read that earlier - unstable builds etc |
| 19:59.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: honestly, i used to, and I would be willing to look it up if I thought It concerned me. |
| 19:59.40 | Antiarc|Work | Users don't need to understand systems to use them. If we did, we'd all be in the stone ages figuring out how to bang rocks together. |
| 19:59.46 | hyperChipmunk | psh, I convert catalysts all the time |
| 19:59.47 | Thrae | NeoTron: You'd tag the stable ones, not the unstable ones ;) |
| 19:59.51 | durcyn | catalytic converters are for commies, that's a straw man! |
| 19:59.51 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Exactly. You don't think it concerns you. |
| 19:59.56 | Antiarc|Work | Joe User doesn't think that SVN concerns him. |
| 19:59.57 | NeoTron | well yeah |
| 20:00.01 | NeoTron | the idea is good |
| 20:00.37 | Thrae | I convert people from Catalyst all the time! Come with me...join the FORCEware! |
| 20:00.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: If a user is using files.wowace as a release mechanism, I think it does. |
| 20:00.59 | sbu | *CRIES* tidewalker is evil :/ |
| 20:01.07 | Antiarc|Work | I think all the user needs to know is that files from files.wowace.com might be buggy, and they should update in a half hour. |
| 20:01.12 | *** join/#wowace jme (i=webfreak@fallingsnow.net) |
| 20:01.14 | Antiarc|Work | That's about as complex as they need to get :) |
| 20:01.16 | Kinkx | "As a result of this update, we will first remove all Armoured Nether Drake mounts, after which we will resend Armoured Nether Drake mounts to only those players who should have received them." Muhaha! :) |
| 20:01.28 | NeoTron | Kinkx: good decisison |
| 20:01.32 | Kinkx | No more nooblets with Nether drakes |
| 20:01.40 | Kinkx | Yep indeed :) |
| 20:01.42 | Saroz | thx Thrae |
| 20:01.53 | NeoTron | I don't have one, didn't have one, but.. I worked to get my normal netherdrake |
| 20:02.07 | NeoTron | kind of bummed they made it an armored netherdrake though.. should have been something else methinks |
| 20:02.07 | jme | bah, i still don't even have epic riding skill yet |
| 20:02.12 | jme | er flight |
| 20:02.26 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: Except the situation isn't even as good as that, and it's never going to be. files.wowace + WAU is unfortunately the ultimate in user friendliness. They expect release quality. |
| 20:02.26 | NeoTron | something you can more logically explain :P |
| 20:02.37 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r41301 10DKPmon_FCZS/ (DKPmon_FCZS.toc custom.lua example.lua): |
| 20:02.37 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_FCZS: |
| 20:02.37 | CIA-22 | Prevent your custom.lua file from being overwritten by svn updates |
| 20:02.38 | Ominous | ckknight: could you create a ace console command for cowtip so niagara etc pick it up |
| 20:03.02 | ckknight | Ominous: was just gonna put in Waterfall support... |
| 20:03.03 | NeoTron | man the names of ace addons |
| 20:03.06 | NeoTron | cowtip? heh |
| 20:03.10 | ckknight | NeoTron: yep. |
| 20:03.13 | ckknight | moo |
| 20:03.20 | NeoTron | is it a tooltip library or something? |
| 20:03.33 | Thrae | Cows are also not Tiny, I suppose... |
| 20:03.43 | Mikk | it's a tooltip addon which uses tags |
| 20:03.53 | Mikk | Thrae: also true :> |
| 20:04.28 | Punkie` | Kinkx: The best part is, I bet like 98% of the people who are QQ'ing on the forums with 'I worked so hard and really deserve it, noone else should have it!!' aren't even going to get one in the fix |
| 20:04.48 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r41302 10DKPmon_PercentDKP/ (DKPmon_PercentDKP.toc custom.lua example.lua): |
| 20:04.48 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_PercentDKP: |
| 20:04.48 | CIA-22 | Prevent your custom.lua file from being overwritten by svn updates |
| 20:04.55 | Saroz | so many people got a mount that they shouldnt have |
| 20:04.59 | Saroz | and blizz wont remove them |
| 20:05.00 | Saroz | so psh |
| 20:05.01 | Saroz | sux |
| 20:05.24 | Punkie` | dude |
| 20:05.27 | Punkie` | they are getting removed |
| 20:05.33 | NeoTron | Saroz: didn't Kinkx just post that they were removing them a few lines u? heh |
| 20:05.34 | Saroz | source? |
| 20:05.38 | Punkie` | forums |
| 20:05.48 | Saroz | ah sry |
| 20:05.52 | Saroz | \o/ |
| 20:06.15 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I added Waterfall support last night >_> |
| 20:06.21 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:06.22 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 20:06.24 | Antiarc|Work | Optional |
| 20:06.32 | Antiarc|Work | So it only activates if waterfall's installed aside from cowtip |
| 20:06.33 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r41303 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/ (DKPmon_ZSumAuction.toc custom.lua example.lua): |
| 20:06.33 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_ZSumAuction: |
| 20:06.33 | CIA-22 | Prevent your custom.lua file from being overwritten by svn updates |
| 20:07.40 | *** join/#wowace grennon (n=jdawg@user-38lm5go.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 20:08.06 | BankZ | Does anyone use RaidInfo? |
| 20:08.30 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r41304 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 20:08.30 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:08.30 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
| 20:09.01 | BankZ | doesnt seem to work for me |
| 20:11.21 | daemona | hmpf anyone know why when clicking on "new" on the forums why i am always taken to post 1 in the thread? |
| 20:12.29 | Kaelten | tags are in the works but its still a rendition or two away |
| 20:16.37 | Thrae | ckknight: Hey, I just noticed CowTip only has options for 30 lines. Why only 30? |
| 20:16.49 | ckknight | because that's enough |
| 20:17.08 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5733974f.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 20:17.25 | aen` | that seems more than enough |
| 20:17.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I was going to ask, can't you just handle dynamic addition/removal of an arbitrary number of lines? |
| 20:17.35 | *** join/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@ip5652b976.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 20:17.37 | Thrae | ckknight: You know the lines listed in GameTooltip_Template.xml and such are not actually instantiated until used, right? |
| 20:17.48 | ckknight | yes, I do |
| 20:17.59 | Thrae | Okey-dokey |
| 20:19.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41305 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: |
| 20:19.53 | CIA-22 | CowTip - make the tooltip say that left-click opens Waterfall. |
| 20:19.53 | CIA-22 | - make left-click open Waterfall. |
| 20:19.53 | CIA-22 | - add option to show tooltip never/always/out-of-combat, for world units, unit frames, and non-unit frames |
| 20:21.15 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-129-252-144.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:21.53 | Wixi | Ominous: found a bug in ClassTimers :) |
| 20:22.01 | Ominous | Wixi: go on |
| 20:22.38 | Wixi | Ominous: In middle of fighting, but will do my best, basically the Rampage Timer bar keeps refreshing to full, even tho the countdown is 30->0 |
| 20:23.01 | Ominous | Wixi: hmm, does it work with blizzards cooldown spiral |
| 20:24.06 | Wixi | Ominous: I'll test i in a minute |
| 20:27.32 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@213-205-67-33.net.novis.pt) |
| 20:27.55 | rubik | any early screenie(s) of a CowTip tooltip or two? |
| 20:29.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41306 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0 - added Solid and Blizzard Tooltip to default backgrounds. |
| 20:29.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41307 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add option to change the background texture, using SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 20:29.42 | ckknight | rubik: some on the forum |
| 20:29.43 | Wixi | Ominous: Ok the Blizz buff does the proper rotation |
| 20:29.57 | rubik | cool.. will check |
| 20:30.01 | Wixi | but your bar seems to re fill too full every crit |
| 20:30.14 | Ominous | Wixi: well i get my times from the blizz ui |
| 20:30.15 | evl | ckknight: Any chance of adding configurable frame padding? Right now it's ~4px and I'd like zero |
| 20:30.52 | *** join/#wowace AKX (n=akx@dsl-tregw3-feadfb00-135.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 20:31.17 | ckknight | you people and your configurations. |
| 20:31.22 | evl | :P |
| 20:31.50 | nevcairiel | i find cowtip really ugly from the first screenshots ive seen |
| 20:31.52 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 20:31.57 | *** join/#wowace Kemayo (n=kemayo@pool-71-103-167-190.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 20:32.28 | evl | what is cowtip? :P |
| 20:32.38 | Mikk | the austrian national sport |
| 20:32.52 | evl | Tooltip of awesomeness. Moo. It'll graze your pasture. |
| 20:35.56 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|Work (i=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 20:36.56 | Wixi | Ominous: How does the code work? Rampage works as an On Crit it charges, it seems like everytime i crit its treating it as an "extra charge" even though its at 5, and the timer doesn't refresh. The time counts down ok, but visually the bar "fills up" |
| 20:37.23 | Ominous | Wixi: every time a debuff changes on the target my mod gets times from blizzards api |
| 20:37.27 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r41308 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatHead.lua: Prat: fix error in chathead module |
| 20:37.31 | Ominous | so im afraid its not my fault |
| 20:37.55 | hyperChipmunk | same happens with hunters mark |
| 20:38.02 | Wixi | Ominous: Ok :) |
| 20:39.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41309 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - added options to change the border's edgeSize and inset size. |
| 20:39.17 | ckknight | evl: there |
| 20:39.55 | Kaelten | Visitors to BlizzCon 2007 will be treated to the first-ever public hands-on with StarCraft II. Demo stations will be set up at the convention, and attendees can sample the new units and gameplay elements for themselves in multiplayer battles. We’re excited to offer this exclusive opportunity to our players, and look forward to seeing you at BlizzCon. |
| 20:40.33 | krka | .. |
| 20:40.35 | krka | no fair |
| 20:40.36 | mitch0 | they'll lose a good many subscriptions to wow, imo |
| 20:40.37 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-141-213.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 20:41.11 | Kaelten | mitch0: ? |
| 20:41.29 | ckknight | I doubt it, honestly |
| 20:41.39 | ckknight | yes, they'll lose some, probably |
| 20:41.43 | mitch0 | well, at least I'm gonna take a break from wow |
| 20:41.45 | ckknight | but there are many more that will just play both |
| 20:41.54 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: http://i16.tinypic.com/4ygs976.jpg |
| 20:42.08 | mitch0 | yeah, well, kids :) |
| 20:42.16 | Funkeh` | ckknight: whens my wish coming true! |
| 20:42.18 | mitch0 | with infinite amount of playtime... /envy |
| 20:42.25 | ckknight | Funkeh`: which one was yours? |
| 20:42.30 | sbu | heh Antiarc|Work |
| 20:42.32 | sbu | giev config :o |
| 20:42.43 | Funkeh` | ckknight: hiding UF tooltips |
| 20:42.47 | Antiarc|Work | I don't have it on hand, sbu |
| 20:43.00 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: Background style: Blizzard Low Health, Blizzard Out-of-Control, Blizzard Tabard Background? |
| 20:43.02 | sbu | mhhhm ckknight - are you going to implement "import config" and "export config"? |
| 20:43.18 | Kaelten | mitch0: I think most will play either one or the other or both, completely different style of games that feed different itches |
| 20:43.28 | Kaelten | but sc2 will be an instant best seller |
| 20:43.34 | ckknight | Funkeh`: it'll come true 25 minutes ago. CIA-22> - add option to show tooltip never/always/out-of-combat, for world units, unit frames, and non-unit frames |
| 20:43.35 | Antiarc|Work | sc2 rocked |
| 20:43.55 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: update SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 20:43.57 | ckknight | sbu: likely |
| 20:43.58 | Antiarc|Work | For a sufficiently fighter value of sc |
| 20:43.58 | Funkeh` | ckknight: win |
| 20:43.59 | NightHawkTheSane | rocked? what, did you time travel and beat the game already? |
| 20:44.00 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: imho thats ugly, i dont need the information prefixed by their type =P |
| 20:44.09 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: Well, that's modifable too :P |
| 20:44.20 | Antiarc|Work | I just did the first couple of lines :p |
| 20:44.22 | abyssichate | Does anyone have a link to Drysc's thread Ommra is speaking about at http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296369888&sid=1 ? |
| 20:44.38 | hyperChipmunk | nevcairiel: it's all dogtagged |
| 20:44.47 | ckknight | nevcairiel: frankly, I don't care what you use, but it's all fully configurable |
| 20:44.51 | Thrae | nevcairiel: It's not a competition |
| 20:45.03 | ckknight | but competition is a driving factor in development... |
| 20:45.16 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 20:45.16 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: is updated |
| 20:45.34 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: you should get "Solid" and "Blizzard Tooltip" as well, then |
| 20:46.28 | hyperChipmunk | the textures don't seem to be there |
| 20:46.39 | nevcairiel | Thrae: what version of tinytip should i use now anyway? is ace svn still up to date, or should i switch to your svn? |
| 20:46.55 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: then you didn't update SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 20:47.01 | Antiarc|Work | I believe that the google svn is the up to date one |
| 20:47.08 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: wait, commit didn't go through |
| 20:47.18 | Thrae | nevcairiel: If you want default formating and positioning, or don't mind editing the database values by hand, then use the Google SVN version |
| 20:47.20 | ckknight | or did it... |
| 20:47.25 | hyperChipmunk | .lua updated |
| 20:47.28 | sbu | ckknight: alpha "fading" rocks ;) |
| 20:47.36 | hyperChipmunk | got no textures |
| 20:47.46 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: <CIA-22> ckknight * r41306 SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0 - added Solid and Blizzard Tooltip to default backgrounds. |
| 20:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | and none of those settings I mentioned do anything |
| 20:48.06 | sbu | right, i can see those textures but they dont change anything |
| 20:48.46 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: works for me |
| 20:49.11 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: oh, change your background color to white. |
| 20:49.21 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: since it's black, it's impossible to see :-P |
| 20:49.57 | hyperChipmunk | also, it would be a shame if there were no cow texture |
| 20:50.23 | ckknight | lol. |
| 20:50.55 | hyperChipmunk | now i can't get back to solid color D8< |
| 20:51.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41310 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add a note about background color needing to be white. |
| 20:51.44 | NightHawkTheSane | A cow texture would be hot. |
| 20:52.34 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 20:53.47 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i'm making one now |
| 20:54.19 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (i=With@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:54.50 | *** part/#wowace Tuller (i=With@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:54.58 | daemona | ckknight -> http://www.2dvalley.com/tutorials/cow-tex-300.jpg |
| 20:55.13 | daemona | its seamless, you can tile it |
| 20:55.14 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (i=With@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:55.55 | *** part/#wowace Tuller (i=With@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:55.57 | hyperChipmunk | that's a weak one |
| 20:56.47 | ckknight | actually the backgrounds aren't tiled |
| 20:56.52 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 20:56.57 | ckknight | and cow textures are lame, imho |
| 20:57.00 | ckknight | hard to put text against |
| 20:57.04 | phyber | CowTip needs some nice configuration method. like, a fake tooltip on the screen where you can edit what tags you want in each area. |
| 20:57.04 | Killmore | hahaha |
| 20:57.07 | hyperChipmunk | that isn't the point |
| 20:57.16 | phyber | going through 30 lines of dewdrop with a crappy amount of space to edit text in sucks ;) |
| 20:57.17 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:57.39 | *** join/#wowace ravagernl (n=chatzill@85.148.20.110) |
| 20:58.08 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: if it's black/white, sure. but a brown/white would work |
| 21:00.02 | Antiarc|Work | phyber: That's what Waterfall is for :D |
| 21:01.08 | *** join/#wowace stavmar (n=chatzill@cpe-97-99-113-207.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 21:01.13 | ravagernl | What's the difference between whisperfu and heyfu? |
| 21:01.16 | ckknight | actually, I'll be redoing the line setting thingy |
| 21:02.04 | *** join/#wowace Neebler (n=BuM@adsl-64-169-155-128.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 21:02.28 | phyber | I wanted to make it look like TinyTip's tooltips, but it looked like too much effort ;) |
| 21:03.36 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41311 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 21:03.37 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 21:03.37 | CIA-22 | - Move to handler-based method calling for window & reporting AceOptions. MUCH cleaner - no need to make copies of menus and fiddle with their passValues, etc |
| 21:03.37 | CIA-22 | - Add "Report" menu to bar window context menu. For great justice. |
| 21:03.37 | CIA-22 | ~congratulate [Ammo] |
| 21:03.37 | purl | ACTION congratulates [Ammo] on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 21:05.18 | vhaarr | Mikk: sweet |
| 21:07.36 | Mikk | ckknight: When working with handler/methods in aceoptions, I realized that they're sometimes a little bit unwieldy. E.g. when you have an "Enable CoolFeature" setting, which you just get/set (get="getSetting", etc) normally with passValue="CoolFeatureEnabled".. And then you have a "Tweak CoolFeature" which wants to be disabled when the feature is disabled... but there's no sane way to go e.g. disabled="~getSetting CoolFeatureEnabled" - you e |
| 21:07.40 | Mikk | creating a new method to poll that value |
| 21:08.05 | vhaarr | Mikk: passValues are passed to disabled functions. |
| 21:08.34 | Mikk | Yeah but the 2nd passValue is going to be e.g. "CoolFeatureColor" |
| 21:08.36 | ckknight | ick |
| 21:08.49 | Mikk | not "CoolFeatureEnabled", which is the one I wanted to poll |
| 21:09.10 | Mikk | ckknight: no i'm not suggesting that syntax. just explaining what i was thinking |
| 21:09.55 | Mikk | disabledPassValue="CoolFeatureEnabled" ftw? |
| 21:10.11 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/moo.png |
| 21:10.12 | Mikk | not really expecting you to write this btw.. just theorizing... i might do it some day :P |
| 21:10.14 | hyperChipmunk | keke |
| 21:10.14 | vhaarr | I don't think it needs to be any more bloated than it is |
| 21:10.27 | *** join/#wowace trh_ (n=hmmm@e179052064.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:10.48 | Mikk | bah, i just got rid of 200 lines from Dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable() :P |
| 21:10.49 | ravagernl | omg lol |
| 21:10.59 | phyber | hyperChipmunk: is dat sum cowtip!? |
| 21:11.02 | Wixi | lol |
| 21:11.15 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r41312 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Rage Winterchill deDE |
| 21:11.16 | hyperChipmunk | I HAS SUM COWTIP |
| 21:11.38 | Wixi | is that Mendeelev giving that info in the tooltip, or is it part of Cowtip |
| 21:11.51 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 21:11.52 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r41313 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Winterchill.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Winterchill: deDE update |
| 21:11.55 | hyperChipmunk | mendy |
| 21:11.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41314 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - cache the DogTag functions initially, before the GC, so a mem spike doesn't appear on first mouseover. |
| 21:12.11 | vhaarr | Mikk: 90% of the time, you're dealing with a multitude of options that rely in enabling/disabling themselves based on one other setting, creating one function that checks it and referencing those in disabled = func isn't much of problem |
| 21:12.37 | Mikk | it is in a handler based approach, vhaarr |
| 21:12.54 | Mikk | e.g. when you're re-using the same menu under a bunch of modules / windows / etc |
| 21:12.58 | Mikk | (which btw is very memory friendly :P) |
| 21:13.43 | vhaarr | Mikk: right, so you add that method to the handler? |
| 21:13.58 | Mikk | yeah that's what i did now |
| 21:14.07 | vhaarr | I think that's fine |
| 21:14.11 | Mikk | just seemed to me that it |
| 21:14.21 | Mikk | it'd be a mem saver to add a wee bit more logic to aceoptions |
| 21:14.28 | Mikk | and not write lots of methods |
| 21:14.34 | Mikk | I'm not married to the idea =) |
| 21:15.56 | Mikk | hell, all you'd need is "v.disabledPassValue or v.passValue" in 2 places and you'd be done |
| 21:16.20 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-72-179-18-127.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 21:16.26 | Mikk | ok, and then the same for hidden |
| 21:18.18 | ckknight | lol, hyperChipmunk, moo texture. |
| 21:18.51 | *** join/#wowace GoogleSVNBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 21:20.37 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 21:20.45 | *** join/#wowace GoogleSVNBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 21:20.48 | Adirelle | ckknight: I'm looking at the ThreatLib_funcs/UpvalueFixers you put into Threat and I have some questions |
| 21:20.59 | ckknight | k. |
| 21:21.16 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: you should put that into SharedMedia |
| 21:21.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: lol, very nice texture |
| 21:21.38 | Firik | any thread1.0 developers here? |
| 21:21.58 | Firik | threat even |
| 21:22.05 | Adirelle | ckknight: if I understand it right, I can put reference to core locals into ThreatLib and remove them later in upvaluefixer ? |
| 21:22.22 | ckknight | yep |
| 21:22.29 | ckknight | like ThreatLib.new and such |
| 21:22.29 | Wixi | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/61791 |
| 21:22.39 | ckknight | Firik: I guess I qualify |
| 21:23.16 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z (n=nn@0x573251c2.rdnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 21:23.16 | Firik | threatlib keeps track of threat per mob atm, can you use GetRaidTargetIndex if it's other then nil to identify different mobs with the same name pls? |
| 21:24.14 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-129-252-144.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:24.18 | Firik | my guild marks all mobs most of the time and I guess lots of other guilds do that as well |
| 21:24.21 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41315 10beql/ (beql.lua options.lua questlog.lua tracker.lua): |
| 21:24.21 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 21:24.21 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.21 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.27 | Firik | f.e the channelers at magtheridon |
| 21:24.54 | ravagernl | nice suggestion |
| 21:25.21 | Firik | I use it for my own written addons and it works nicely to know which mobs is which |
| 21:25.30 | Mikk | The problem is that the combatlog doesn't really say "You do X damage to TheMob (the star marked one)" |
| 21:25.40 | Mikk | It just says "TheMob" |
| 21:25.55 | Firik | hmm true didn't think of that |
| 21:26.09 | Mikk | You _could_ make assumptions about your current target |
| 21:26.16 | NightHawkTheSane | but that's a very bad idea. |
| 21:26.25 | Mikk | But it'll fail horribly if you're shooting at your focus for instance |
| 21:26.30 | Firik | why? most of the time people are attacking their target |
| 21:26.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Firik: multi-damage abilities and dots say not always :P |
| 21:26.51 | Firik | true |
| 21:26.55 | *** join/#wowace Chesy (i=Fidora@c-2fbae455.46-0112-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 21:26.55 | NightHawkTheSane | aoe/cleave/etc |
| 21:26.57 | Mikk | Personally, I'd be ok be with a caveat "shoot your target and nothing else pl0x or it gets confused" |
| 21:27.06 | Mikk | But I'm not the decision maker =) |
| 21:27.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Eh, the only time multiply named mobs come up is typically with trash. Threat really doesn't matter on trash. |
| 21:27.28 | Firik | kinda strange how blizz implemented the combat log stuff, they should just have clear messages for it with a target and amound and such so that you don't have to parse your combat log |
| 21:27.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Firik: It's designed that way on purpose. Blizzard does -not- want us to be able to uniquely identify mobs |
| 21:28.09 | Mikk | That's not what he said |
| 21:28.26 | Mikk | He said he wants CHAT_MSG_COMBAT SourceName, DestinationName, amount, DamageType |
| 21:28.27 | Firik | I know, but giving a unit id in those messages would still not give us that info |
| 21:28.50 | Firik | the way unit id's work in wow is really nice imo |
| 21:28.52 | Firik | I' |
| 21:29.01 | Firik | m not hapy with the combat events only |
| 21:29.02 | Mikk | oh, unitids in combatlog |
| 21:29.10 | Mikk | that's ... iffy as hell bh |
| 21:29.11 | Mikk | tbh* |
| 21:29.12 | Thrae | Firik: Parser-1.1 works that way I believe |
| 21:29.36 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 21:29.39 | Firik | parser can't know for sure ofc, same name problem |
| 21:29.47 | Thrae | Firik: Parser-3.0 gives you the unitId by using RosterLib, but you can also use something like RosterLib with Parser-1.1. |
| 21:30.20 | Mikk | but does it give you raid40focus? |
| 21:30.27 | Mikk | iteration madness! =) |
| 21:30.46 | Arrowmaster | no since thats not a valid unitid |
| 21:30.51 | Mikk | oh |
| 21:30.51 | Firik | you can't appent focus like target right? |
| 21:30.58 | Mikk | raid40target then |
| 21:31.14 | Firik | raid12targettarget |
| 21:31.18 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 21:32.26 | Firik | hydros, magtheridon, vasjh, al'ar, lurker, morogrim just some boss fights with ads with same names |
| 21:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe.. http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/May-The-Form-Be-With-You.aspx |
| 21:33.11 | Firik | but ofc magtheridon is the only fight where you mark then |
| 21:33.31 | Firik | so nvm about my suggestion, will be to much guessing and only working on trash |
| 21:33.38 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 21:33.47 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, I think Threat-1.0 does some magic on some of the boss fights where you -know- how many adds there will be |
| 21:33.55 | NightHawkTheSane | but you'd have to ask Antiarc about that. |
| 21:34.10 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/moo.blp <---if anyone wants the cow texture for their sharedlib =) |
| 21:34.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: commit it up to sharedmedia? |
| 21:34.45 | trh_ | ich will kühe! ;) |
| 21:35.36 | Mech0z | Who is it that makes Threat1.0 ? |
| 21:35.41 | *** join/#wowace Ins- (n=sam@215.88-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 21:36.12 | ag` | "Your ticket has been escalated!" five hours later... nothing still :P |
| 21:36.12 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
| 21:36.16 | Fisker- | This shit delivers |
| 21:36.45 | Mech0z | the threat value for growl 8 (second highest rank) does not work propely, at least I pretty often puls aggro when I not near my pets threat (not the aggro gain thing) |
| 21:38.10 | Adirelle | ckknight: in threat, upvaluesfixer are called in the same order as funcs ? |
| 21:38.28 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:38.29 | sbu | lol trh_ ;) |
| 21:38.44 | *** join/#wowace karpadnik (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-97e75128704fda5f) |
| 21:38.45 | ckknight | Mech0z: mostly Antiarc |
| 21:39.26 | Antiarc|Work | Mech0z: I'm the lead on Threat |
| 21:39.41 | Antiarc|Work | Mech0z: How much AP does your pet have? |
| 21:39.58 | Adirelle | ckknight: so say if I want to expose some locals through ThreatLib, say partyMemberUsesKLHTM, I can't refresh them in the upvaluesfixer |
| 21:40.56 | ckknight | if it's a table, the reference will be kept across all files that hold it |
| 21:41.10 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41316 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua background/ background/moo.tga): |
| 21:41.10 | CIA-22 | SharedMedia: |
| 21:41.10 | CIA-22 | - CowTip special! 'Moo' background added. |
| 21:41.44 | Adirelle | ckknight: that's not easy to explain, this involves having several version of threat |
| 21:41.46 | hyperChipmunk | it's surprisingly usable O_o |
| 21:41.49 | Antiarc|Work | Mech0z: Also, what level is your pet? |
| 21:42.01 | ckknight | Adirelle: oh... |
| 21:42.28 | ckknight | Adirelle: you want to take the oldLib's reference and use it with the new one? |
| 21:42.39 | Antiarc|Work | Mech0z: If you care to, you can help me debug it |
| 21:42.41 | Adirelle | ckknight: not at all |
| 21:42.45 | Adirelle | ckknight: in one func, you have "local del = ThreatLib.del" and in the upvaluesfixer : "ThreatLib = lib" |
| 21:43.04 | ckknight | yea. |
| 21:43.13 | Adirelle | if another instance of threatlib is activated, the "ThreatLib" will be updated, but not "del" |
| 21:43.21 | ckknight | del's a function |
| 21:43.26 | ckknight | and the ThreatLib reference is funky |
| 21:43.27 | Adirelle | that's not annoying for del |
| 21:43.49 | Adirelle | but with a table I feel it becomes tricky |
| 21:44.43 | *** join/#wowace weab_ (n=asdf@cpe-72-179-16-64.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 21:44.48 | Adirelle | basically, if I do : "local partyMemberUsesKLHTM = ThreatLib.partyMemberUsesKLHTM" (supposing partyMemberUsesKLHTM is exposed at something then removed in upvaluesfixer) |
| 21:45.20 | sbu | yay hyperChipmunk :) |
| 21:45.23 | Adirelle | which partyMemberUsesKLTHM will be used if a fresher ThreatLib is activated ? |
| 21:45.46 | Adirelle | wait... maybe there is no point to worry about this ? |
| 21:45.48 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi (n=kaugummi@p5091F1B3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:45.54 | Josh_Borke | hm, pretty sure it'll point to the previous version, unless it does an in place replacement of functions |
| 21:46.37 | Adirelle | ckknight: thoughts ? |
| 21:47.26 | ckknight | Adirelle: it'll be the newest one, by definition |
| 21:47.40 | ckknight | Adirelle: basically: stop worrying |
| 21:47.57 | Mikk | new libraries overwrite old member functinos |
| 21:47.58 | Adirelle | ckknight: hrm... I'll do that, and yell if something goes wrong :p |
| 21:48.02 | Flexom | hrmz, fubar settings are.....somewhat fubar:p can't change any settings that uses numbers... like font size, they just revert to previous setting... |
| 21:48.23 | Mikk | uhoh |
| 21:48.24 | ckknight | basically. |
| 21:48.24 | Adirelle | yep, but that func/upvaluesfixer system was quite new to me |
| 21:48.38 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 21:48.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 21:48.40 | Mikk | Flexom: did this happen just now? |
| 21:49.17 | ulic | is it possible to use PlaySound or any other function to play the in-game .wav files? besides the ones list on the wowwiki PlaySound() page? |
| 21:49.32 | ulic | like with "sound\blah\blah\sound.wav"? |
| 21:49.45 | Mikk | Mkay, this'll be my fault then >.< |
| 21:49.58 | Wixi | Antiarc|Work: Omen errors: http://ace.pastey.net/61791 |
| 21:51.07 | Josh_Borke | mikk: how can you change a local reference to a function? |
| 21:51.12 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41317 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: I managed to bork sliders in the last checkin -- they'd never "set". Oops. Fixed. |
| 21:51.13 | hyperChipmunk | if the cow texture is still too bright for you to read, you can always move the "Background Color" in CowTip's options towards black |
| 21:51.18 | Josh_Borke | mikk: as i understand it they are pointers |
| 21:51.18 | ulic | ah, found it, PlaySoundFile() |
| 21:51.21 | Antiarc|Work | Wixi: That's fixed in 41286, I believe. |
| 21:52.00 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Yeah local refs will be pointing to old stuff... |
| 21:52.05 | Wixi | Antiarc|Work: Must have missed the update, i'll check it out |
| 21:52.07 | Josh_Borke | i can understand if it's a reference to just ThreatLib, replace the contents of the table. but if it's a reference to ThreatLib.field, you can't change that one |
| 21:53.13 | Josh_Borke | <STAGE 1>local partyMemberUsesKLHTM = ThreatLib.partyMemberUsesKLHTM"; <New ThreatLib is loaded, changing the contents of ThreatLib and erasing all the old field>, partyMemberUsesKLHTM points to the OLD function, not the new one, correct? |
| 21:53.31 | Mikk | Flexom: Fixed. |
| 21:53.48 | Mikk | Flexom: The fix should be downloadable from files.wowace in ~10 minutes |
| 21:54.56 | Josh_Borke | though, i'm thinking Adirelle was asking specifically about DogTag |
| 21:55.38 | Adirelle | Josh_Borke: what ? |
| 21:56.02 | Josh_Borke | Adirelle: i was just trying to understand your question |
| 21:56.16 | Josh_Borke | (05:39:58 PM) Adirelle: ckknight: so say if I want to expose some locals through ThreatLib, say partyMemberUsesKLHTM, I can't refresh them in the upvaluesfixer |
| 21:56.59 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41318 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Now displays activity time of players. In detail mode, this allows you to see how players spending their time attacking/healing what targets with individual ability time for the bottom details |
| 21:57.01 | Adirelle | Josh_Borke: well... in fact, I won't need to refresh them |
| 21:57.29 | Josh_Borke | that's good |
| 21:57.54 | Adirelle | all files of differents versions of ThreatLib are loaded in the same order, together, not interlaced |
| 21:58.52 | Adirelle | so at any time _G.ThreatLib points to the current version of ThreatLib that is loading |
| 21:59.05 | Josh_Borke | that is LOADED, not LOADING, right? |
| 21:59.17 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41319 10beql/localization-ko.lua: beql - fixed koKR localization for "Add New Quests" function in other languages |
| 21:59.26 | Josh_Borke | since any out of date threatlib should just dump out when it finds out it's not the newest |
| 21:59.46 | Adirelle | that's a bit more complicated, since ThreatLib is defined in several files |
| 21:59.56 | Josh_Borke | but then again, i'm probably not understanding something |
| 22:00.23 | *** join/#wowace Stephmw (n=steph@212.69.51.139) |
| 22:01.03 | Adirelle | basically Threat-1.0.lua (first loaded file) defines a global ThreatLib |
| 22:01.21 | Adirelle | then all files are loaded using it (adding defining functions to ThreatLib_funcs) |
| 22:01.49 | Adirelle | and at the end, Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua will executes all ThreatLib_funcs and activates the library |
| 22:02.00 | Adirelle | and cleanup the global ThreatLib |
| 22:02.08 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41320 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Move some stuff around |
| 22:02.19 | Adirelle | betwwen Threat-1.0.lua and Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua, we can say ThreatLib is "loading" |
| 22:02.40 | NeoTron | man big blow - our top shadow priest is taking a raiding hiatus until september at least |
| 22:02.51 | Adirelle | during this time _G.ThreatLib references the current loading instance |
| 22:03.08 | [dRaCo] | shadows are replaceable. |
| 22:03.09 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41321 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua: Recount - Some fixes to the tooltip for Activity (coloring and wrong label) |
| 22:04.19 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=kenlyric@adsl-76-214-146-38.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:05.52 | Adirelle | ckknight: so this would work ? http://ace.pastey.net/61861 (I forget some cleanup) |
| 22:05.57 | Adirelle | s/get/got/ |
| 22:06.16 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (i=me@i577A2968.versanet.de) |
| 22:06.44 | ckknight | yes, Adirelle |
| 22:06.47 | ckknight | just do the cleanup as well |
| 22:08.05 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi (n=kaugummi@p5091D6A8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:08.29 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41322 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: |
| 22:08.29 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Drycoded change to reflect a change to the pet scaling theory. |
| 22:08.29 | CIA-22 | Basically, calculate base AP off of the highest learnable rank rather than the |
| 22:08.29 | CIA-22 | highest learned rank. This means that Rank 8 Growl on a level 69 pet with 700 AP |
| 22:08.29 | CIA-22 | is far more effective than Rank 9 Growl on a level 70 pet with 700 AP, but far |
| 22:08.30 | CIA-22 | less effective than Rank 8 growl on a level 70 pet with 700 AP. |
| 22:09.42 | hyperChipmunk | rank 9 growl, eh? |
| 22:09.44 | hyperChipmunk | wtb |
| 22:10.13 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: you should add more textures to SML so the dewdrop picker covers my entire 1200-pel high screen. that'd be awesome. |
| 22:10.15 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: would you mind if I add some "Threat_KTM_*" event sending ? like (master target change, new pure user detected, version query response ?) |
| 22:10.16 | Antiarc|Work | Err. |
| 22:10.17 | abyssichate | Antiarc: did you fix the issue about own threat data being halved even on resisted soulshatters? |
| 22:10.18 | Antiarc|Work | Rank 7 and Rank 8. >_> |
| 22:10.26 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: I haven't looked at it yet :/ |
| 22:10.32 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Go for it. |
| 22:10.52 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: oh, wait, it already does. sighbomb. |
| 22:11.19 | abyssichate | oh, ok, I was pretty sure that you did but yesterday it happened that my SS got resisted and yet my threat got halved, so I was wondering why. I now understand it |
| 22:11.39 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: don't forget to include milk and cookies in the next release of Threat. |
| 22:11.58 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: kk |
| 22:12.20 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:12.29 | Hotphoenix | would a feature in omen to automatically or have a menu option to whisper those in a raid without a working/compatable version of threat be a viable addition? |
| 22:12.56 | Hotphoenix | god my english sucks tonight |
| 22:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | I'll kick you in the balls if you start making autowhispers, Antiarc|Work |
| 22:13.21 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@213-205-67-33.net.novis.pt) |
| 22:13.50 | Antiarc|Work | I was considering an autowhisper feature, but I figure that it's prone to nasty abuse and it's relatively easy to just manually tell people to upgrade |
| 22:17.46 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: your guild is nice |
| 22:17.49 | *** join/#wowace what-K (i=what-K@xdsl-81-173-182-65.netcologne.de) |
| 22:17.50 | ckknight | well, the gog thing |
| 22:17.56 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, they're good folks. |
| 22:17.59 | ckknight | <3 nearly-free shield spike |
| 22:18.05 | Antiarc|Work | It's basically one giant guild with sub-guilds |
| 22:18.28 | ckknight | how many people are in it? |
| 22:18.38 | Antiarc|Work | Mmm. Let me check the raid roster. |
| 22:19.46 | ravagernl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.35 | Antiarc|Work | It's four guilds, ravagernl |
| 22:20.36 | kenlyric | you're not really paying attention, are you ravagernl? ;) |
| 22:20.43 | ravagernl | :o |
| 22:21.05 | ravagernl | lol how is that possible |
| 22:21.24 | Antiarc|Work | Guild alliance. |
| 22:21.54 | Antiarc|Work | I'd guess there are probably on the order of 150-200 accounts active in the GoG |
| 22:22.21 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:22.30 | Antiarc|Work | Lots and lots more inactive accounts |
| 22:22.48 | ulic | do you have an addon that allows for cross guild chat? or just make a channel? |
| 22:22.57 | Antiarc|Work | We just use a channel with ChatLink for linking crap |
| 22:23.27 | Antiarc|Work | It's been going strong for a few years without any major problems, so why mess with what works? |
| 22:24.22 | *** join/#wowace sbu_ (n=sb@dslb-084-056-130-199.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:24.44 | ulic | was just curious glad it's going well :) |
| 22:24.45 | *** join/#wowace Galka_ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-148-81.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:25.22 | *** join/#wowace dabu_ (i=xx@p54AC9DCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:27.05 | Ominous | ckknight whats wrong with [~SmartRace:IsEqual("Not specified")?SmartRace] |
| 22:27.19 | ckknight | no quotes |
| 22:27.49 | Ominous | ok |
| 22:28.07 | Ominous | thanks |
| 22:28.37 | Ominous | also ckknight: maybe a faction color needs to be added |
| 22:28.43 | Ominous | tag* |
| 22:29.48 | Ominous | ignore me |
| 22:30.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:30.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41323 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 22:30.42 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - make it so [Zone] will no longer return "Ressurectable" |
| 22:30.42 | CIA-22 | - added tag [Rez] |
| 22:30.48 | ckknight | was thinking about a faction color |
| 22:31.14 | abyssichate | Instead of tag horde/alliance? |
| 22:31.42 | ckknight | well, to go with it |
| 22:32.32 | abyssichate | Will the things like disabling the class tag in case you are targetting a NPC/mob be dealed with later on? |
| 22:32.35 | ckknight | also, I was thinking about the possibility of having it return "Thunder Bluff" instead of "Horde" if you're a Tauren, for instance |
| 22:32.40 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu) |
| 22:32.56 | ckknight | abyssichate: that already is dealt with. |
| 22:33.01 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi (n=kaugummi@p5091CFEB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:33.07 | ckknight | NPCs have classes |
| 22:33.08 | abyssichate | I obviously need to update |
| 22:33.12 | *** join/#wowace eXemplar (n=exem@203-206-82-231.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 22:33.39 | abyssichate | Background colours based on hostility? |
| 22:34.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41324 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add Resurrectable line. |
| 22:34.27 | ckknight | abyssichate: not yet |
| 22:34.51 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: What's the possibility of having a "color chain" via tags? |
| 22:34.59 | ckknight | color chain? |
| 22:35.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:35.02 | Antiarc|Work | Well |
| 22:35.10 | *** join/#wowace chuckg (n=chuckg@ip11.82.dhcp-acs2.pdx.iinet.com) |
| 22:35.23 | ckknight | [SomeTag:Red] works |
| 22:35.34 | ckknight | so would [SomeTag:Color(ff0000)] |
| 22:35.35 | ravagernl | i think antiarc means a gradient from one color to another |
| 22:35.40 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:35.45 | ckknight | yea, that's not happening |
| 22:35.51 | ravagernl | lol :P |
| 22:35.51 | ckknight | too complex and pointless |
| 22:35.53 | Antiarc|Work | Faction?Hostile:Red; InMyGuild?Blue; Faction?Friendly:Green; |
| 22:35.56 | Antiarc|Work | For the background |
| 22:36.00 | ckknight | oh, that's fine. |
| 22:36.05 | Antiarc|Work | However dogtag would do it |
| 22:36.15 | ckknight | wait, oh, for the background? |
| 22:36.16 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:36.17 | Antiarc|Work | basically finer-grained control than hostile = red, friendly = green |
| 22:36.18 | Antiarc|Work | or whatever |
| 22:36.18 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 22:36.22 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 22:36.27 | ckknight | here's what I was thinking: |
| 22:36.42 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just thinking DogTag expressions that evaluate to a color that's used for the background |
| 22:36.44 | Antiarc|Work | If that makes sense |
| 22:37.04 | ckknight | if they're the same faction as the one you're grinding for, then it's a color |
| 22:37.09 | ckknight | if they're hostile, then it's another color |
| 22:37.16 | ckknight | if they're a hostile PC, it's another color |
| 22:37.23 | ckknight | if they're a friendly PC |
| 22:37.27 | ckknight | if they're in your guild |
| 22:37.40 | ckknight | (or friend) |
| 22:37.42 | ckknight | if they're friendly NPC |
| 22:37.46 | ckknight | I think that's it. |
| 22:38.02 | ckknight | those 6 |
| 22:38.11 | Ominous | ckknight: imo [PlayerClass?ClassColor!HostileColor][Name] should be used for name |
| 22:38.29 | ckknight | Ominous: that's your opinion, not mine. |
| 22:38.38 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:38.50 | ckknight | I prefer SmartClass over PlayerClass |
| 22:41.30 | sbu | hmm Antiarc|Work |
| 22:41.44 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@157.157.216.175) |
| 22:42.03 | sbu | my pullout bar still has height of ~400px |
| 22:43.05 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:47.07 | Ominous | whats the hex for the default yellow for even difficulty mobs |
| 22:47.25 | ckknight | ffff00 |
| 22:48.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41325 10Omen/OmenThreatBar.lua: Omen: Fix for the magical height-expanding pullout bars |
| 22:50.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:50.48 | hyperChipmunk | ~seen nymbia |
| 22:50.55 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@75-166-29-251.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 11m ago, saying: 'cool'. |
| 22:51.30 | sbu | thank you Antiarc ;o |
| 22:51.38 | Antiarc|Work | :) |
| 22:51.59 | Adirelle | gonna see how this big piece of drycoding works |
| 22:52.20 | mitch0 | hohoho |
| 22:52.33 | mitch0 | they usually don't |
| 22:53.56 | Adirelle | shit, oRA2's shity again |
| 22:54.16 | Adirelle | sry, I meant something's borked again with acelibraries |
| 22:55.02 | Ominous | i dont like priest color |
| 22:56.16 | hyperChipmunk | how come my dewdrop sliders don't work no more |
| 22:56.21 | hyperChipmunk | who do i beat in the face |
| 22:57.01 | nevcairiel | i suggest Mikk |
| 22:57.02 | mitch0 | wan't Mikk fiddling with dewdrop? :) |
| 22:57.17 | Ominous | ckknight: does [PvP] say something different with all in one pvp? |
| 22:57.21 | hyperChipmunk | I'ma fiddle with his face |
| 22:57.56 | ckknight | FFA? no, I think it still just says "PvP" |
| 22:58.09 | ckknight | I could make it say something |
| 22:58.13 | ckknight | such as "FFA" |
| 22:59.03 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: still no Solid background style in cowtip |
| 23:00.21 | Adirelle | damn, just found a very old version of Ace2... could explain thoses weirdness that happened to me :/ |
| 23:00.32 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: it works for me, so I dunno what to tell you |
| 23:01.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41326 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - for [PvP], if you're FFA, it'll say FFA instead of just PvP. |
| 23:03.17 | Ominous | ckknight: thanks :) |
| 23:03.38 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: well stop hoarding yer codez |
| 23:03.43 | Ominous | ckknight also [Status:Red:AFK:Red] is there a way to do it with only one Red in it? |
| 23:04.01 | ckknight | [[Status:AFK]:Red] |
| 23:04.07 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41327 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 23:04.07 | CIA-22 | Recount - Added a (s) label for detail windows involving activity |
| 23:04.08 | CIA-22 | -Various improvements on memory usage |
| 23:04.47 | Ominous | ckknight: is that better than [Red][...] which i just rememberd can be dne |
| 23:05.09 | ckknight | yes |
| 23:05.21 | Antiarc|Work | http://youtube.com/watch?v=fTPAoNE3Cgg |
| 23:07.41 | hyperChipmunk | "Rez" Unknown Tag |
| 23:08.36 | Ominous | now ckknight: no resetting the db |
| 23:08.41 | Ominous | xD |
| 23:08.58 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: update DogTag |
| 23:09.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:10.16 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41328 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Commented out an assertation, as the cause of it may be a race condition due to the server not sending data across quickly enough. Just fail silently instead; shouldn't hurt anything. |
| 23:10.23 | Ominous | ckknight: when the tt shows when mousing over pitbull then removving curser from pitbull tt dosent hide until a differnt type of tt is shown |
| 23:10.53 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 23:11.16 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 23:12.08 | Aenslaed | whats a good ace alternative to chronometer? self casted hots, dots, buffs, debuffs but also pvp/bg timers. |
| 23:12.51 | durcyn | classtimer + capping |
| 23:13.09 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@c-2be3e155.72-6-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 23:13.46 | *** join/#wowace Galka__ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-188-202.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:13.49 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@va-76-4-68-39.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 23:14.02 | Aenslaed | two mods to do it? |
| 23:14.05 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:14.08 | ckknight | Ominous: wait, that's not right... |
| 23:14.29 | Ominous | ckknight: e41314 |
| 23:14.33 | Ominous | r* |
| 23:14.34 | Aenslaed | durcyn: i used to use sorren's timers but the mod was getting unstable |
| 23:15.02 | durcyn | chronometer is an ace addon, btw. |
| 23:15.11 | Aenslaed | i know |
| 23:15.19 | Aenslaed | but chronometer doesn't allow for nearly enough customization |
| 23:15.35 | durcyn | other ace candybar addons would be capping, for pvp timers, classtimer for class abilities, hourglass for self-cooldowns, etc |
| 23:15.50 | Ominous | Aenslaed, its better to use more mods for elss tasks imo, more user choice |
| 23:15.54 | durcyn | and antagonist for NECB-like target cast/cooldown/buff |
| 23:16.00 | Ominous | Aenslaed, ClassTimer is very configurable |
| 23:16.03 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 23:16.42 | Aenslaed | well, sorren's was amazing. fully configurable and relevant class timers, and arena/bg timers. |
| 23:16.57 | Aenslaed | I dont want necb style timers though. thats what cast bars are for. |
| 23:16.59 | Aenslaed | and bigwigs |
| 23:17.11 | Ominous | ckknight: ok fixed |
| 23:17.11 | durcyn | you'll notice i mentioned not one but FOUR different addons. |
| 23:17.25 | durcyn | mix and match |
| 23:17.26 | ckknight | fixed? |
| 23:17.28 | Ominous | ckknight: it works the first time but not the others |
| 23:17.43 | Ominous | ckknight: i updated and it hid the frist time, but then stayed the others |
| 23:18.16 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-129-252-144.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:19.03 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:19.07 | Aenslaed | can capping and classtimers share the same anchor point? |
| 23:19.13 | Ominous | no |
| 23:19.24 | Ominous | dont see why you would wnt them too |
| 23:19.53 | Aenslaed | one spot to look for timer bars. |
| 23:24.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:25.07 | *** join/#wowace Legorol (i=Legorol@zr205.trin.cam.ac.uk) |
| 23:27.23 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: KLHTM supports seems working in its own file :p |
| 23:27.37 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Awesome :D |
| 23:27.47 | Antiarc|Work | That should make maintaining the Threat core a bit more simple |
| 23:27.48 | Ominous | argh!, i hate universitys along way away |
| 23:30.05 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: seems to have some trouble with IsGroupOfficier tho |
| 23:30.18 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Local isn't available? |
| 23:30.40 | Antiarc|Work | Mm. Guess we can expose ThreatLib.IsGroupOfficer, but bleh. |
| 23:30.47 | Adirelle | that's not it |
| 23:30.58 | Adirelle | I'd rather say it return false when it shouldn't |
| 23:32.14 | ckknight | fun to do in pugs: /script SendAddonMessage("KLHTM", "t 1000000", "PARTY") |
| 23:32.40 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 23:33.46 | Ominous | ckknight: rofl |
| 23:34.05 | Kemayo | ckknight: I must try that... |
| 23:34.13 | sbu | *testing* |
| 23:34.13 | Kinkx | what happend? :D |
| 23:34.17 | Kinkx | +s |
| 23:35.11 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r41329 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Made the scanning of tooltips in BANK_CONTAINER work. |
| 23:36.30 | Megalon | just got a error when configuring something in agUF in the dewdrop menu: http://ace.pastey.net/62018 |
| 23:36.43 | Megalon | is that agUF's fault, or a dewdrop bug? |
| 23:37.22 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r54h77.res.gatech.edu) |
| 23:37.39 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41330 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Don't allow :CreateFrames to do stuff when we arent enabled |
| 23:37.40 | Ominous | ckk /script SendAddonMessage("KLHTM", "t 1E99", "PARTY") |
| 23:37.48 | Ominous | works too |
| 23:37.52 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.57 | sbu | lol |
| 23:37.59 | abyssichate | ckknight: what I meant before is: is it possible to remove the tag class if you are hovering non pvp targets? I'd eventually get a Class: Warrior if I am targetting a Mindless Zombie, for example |
| 23:38.02 | Ominous | rofl |
| 23:38.05 | sbu | 1 is every second? |
| 23:38.08 | ckknight | I'm in a PUG |
| 23:38.11 | ckknight | they're using KTM |
| 23:38.13 | Ominous | :) |
| 23:38.15 | ckknight | fuck em. |
| 23:38.17 | Ominous | they going wtf? |
| 23:38.31 | ckknight | abyssichate: yea, they're warriors. |
| 23:38.44 | abyssichate | yes, I know, but that is not very informative to know |
| 23:38.53 | ckknight | it is for me |
| 23:38.57 | ckknight | you know if they heal or not |
| 23:38.59 | ckknight | what spells they use |
| 23:39.07 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41331 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added deDE translation for "Imp" |
| 23:39.29 | yacoob | coming up next: cryptographic extension to KTM :D |
| 23:40.02 | abyssichate | okei, but in the long run, once you know what all the units actually do, it may be redundant, so I was wondering if there was a conditional to make the class text show only on pvp targets rather than on every target |
| 23:40.11 | abyssichate | if that is at the moment not possible, I'll just live with that |
| 23:40.47 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: You're saying it's returning false for someone that is a group officer/leader? |
| 23:40.57 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: |
| 23:40.59 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: right |
| 23:41.13 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, right |
| 23:41.16 | Adirelle | in fact, I'm in a party, and the party leader |
| 23:41.27 | abyssichate | I also get the "what-class-npcs-are" by the way their name is coloured, I guess :) |
| 23:41.27 | Adirelle | and it returns false |
| 23:41.30 | Antiarc|Work | Because we don't have unit info for KTM people I suspect |
| 23:41.39 | JoshBorke | ckknight: is there a way in Cartographer to prevent it from putting icons on my minimap for Cartographer_Herbalism? |
| 23:41.56 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I'm not "KTM people" :p |
| 23:42.07 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 23:42.16 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, I see. |
| 23:42.28 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r41332 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: ops some things didnt show |
| 23:42.34 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: It probably doesn't work in a non-raidparty |
| 23:42.38 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41333 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Adds config and report to the console commands |
| 23:42.40 | Antiarc|Work | I'll see what I can do to fix it tonight |
| 23:43.11 | Adirelle | oki, I reverted to something worky, based on Is*Leader, to do my tests |
| 23:43.26 | yacoob | ckknight, now, that (this random thing) would be a great feature to add to Omen, wouldn't it? :D |
| 23:43.37 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:43.58 | ckknight | JoshBorke: probably in the options |
| 23:44.03 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-084-063-098-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:44.04 | yacoob | if it detects ktm, scramble it 8) |
| 23:44.31 | JoshBorke | there's nothing in the cartographer options, maybe i'm stupid and can't see it. is there another set of options? does anyone know? |
| 23:44.46 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work, does threat lib check guidl for versions? |
| 23:44.55 | Ominous | or party |
| 23:45.07 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: Both |
| 23:45.38 | Antiarc|Work | yacoob: I fully intend to not be evil to KTM users as much as possible. :P |
| 23:45.55 | ckknight | JoshBorke: under Notes |
| 23:46.03 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:46.14 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41334 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for IsGroupOfficer() when in a party. Untested. |
| 23:46.27 | yacoob | Antiarc|Work, unless asked for? Pretty please? :D |
| 23:46.38 | Antiarc|Work | No :P |
| 23:46.50 | yacoob | but seriously, things like this makes me think about the whole idea of giving such rich api for players |
| 23:46.54 | JoshBorke | thanks |
| 23:47.07 | Antiarc|Work | Make a macro if you'd like, but intentioanlly trashing KTM would be -really- bad PR for Threat and everything using it. |
| 23:47.21 | yacoob | apparently you, Antiarc|Work, are not evil enough. But someone else might just be. |
| 23:47.30 | Antiarc|Work | svn revert for the win. |
| 23:47.38 | yacoob | Antiarc|Work, nah, I was joking with this. But I see potential threat. |
| 23:47.48 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, indeed. It's always a concern, and one you can't really get around |
| 23:47.52 | JoshBorke | why would you do something like that? it's just mean and mean spirited and serves no purpose |
| 23:48.01 | Antiarc|Work | But if someone's dicking with your meters, there's a really easy way to fix it: |
| 23:48.12 | Antiarc|Work | *right-click, uninvite* |
| 23:48.16 | yacoob | old idea for item deletor |
| 23:48.29 | xystic | Do you think eventually Blizzard might build a threat measurement system into the game? |
| 23:48.34 | JoshBorke | no |
| 23:49.17 | Keias | if anything, I'd imagine they're trying to find a way to prevent them from being used |
| 23:49.37 | yacoob | exactly |
| 23:49.39 | Cryect | shrug you create encounters where they are worthless |
| 23:49.42 | yacoob | and it's a good idea |
| 23:50.09 | yacoob | when you forget the original idea, you are creating complex scenarios which are cubersome and fragile to maintain |
| 23:50.11 | Cryect | Random % Knockaways, lots of mobs with the same name, etc |
| 23:50.11 | JoshBorke | but every encounter dropping aggro? |
| 23:50.24 | Cryect | Not every encounter needs threatmeters |
| 23:50.26 | Antiarc|Work | You can kill every threat meter in existance by making threat abilities vary be a small % |
| 23:50.35 | Cryect | threatmeters are normally worthless :-p |
| 23:50.39 | Peoii | Antiarc|Work: Am I just missing it, or is there no way to customize which columns are shown in Omen? |
| 23:50.50 | Antiarc|Work | Peoii: Look under skins -> skin options -> columns |
| 23:51.00 | Peoii | swanky, danke. |
| 23:51.09 | JoshBorke | logically they can't dick around with the threat model that much because then you take the control out of the hands of the players, and no one wants that |
| 23:51.35 | Antiarc|Work | JoshBorke: Eh. Not really. Not much different than a string of parries/dodges. |
| 23:51.48 | Antiarc|Work | You just let your tank get a "feel" for when they have lock aggro and make an attack call |
| 23:51.53 | Antiarc|Work | Like it was done in the old days :) |
| 23:51.55 | Cryect | If anything I think the current threat model is kinda dumb and hope future mmo's will try for osmething new |
| 23:52.13 | Cryect | mainly because I'm bored of this paradigm :-p |
| 23:52.16 | durcyn | Antiarc / Adirelle: i just showed as 150% aggro after soulshatter on Attumen |
| 23:52.21 | durcyn | with TTK on |
| 23:52.24 | yacoob | Cryect, very simple solution: create 2 games, play them against each other |
| 23:52.31 | yacoob | think dungeon keeper |
| 23:52.40 | ckknight | well, Antiarc|Work, apparently some of your fellow gog members use KT |
| 23:52.42 | ckknight | KTM* |
| 23:53.43 | Cryect | gkick!!!! |
| 23:53.45 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Most of 'em do |
| 23:53.51 | Antiarc|Work | I have told them to not drop it yet ;) |
| 23:54.15 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: Ok. I'll see if I can get soulshatter tested tonight |
| 23:55.03 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: oh |
| 23:55.07 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: whoops. |
| 23:55.18 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I told em how to get WAU up and running and all |
| 23:55.21 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh |
| 23:55.27 | Antiarc|Work | It's a pretty Ace-savvy group |
| 23:55.30 | *** join/#wowace ag` (i=Andreas@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 23:56.21 | ckknight | they also seem to be very interested in CowTip |
| 23:56.44 | ckknight | they also say I should make an RP mod |
| 23:56.48 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh |
| 23:57.14 | ckknight | hey, it might happen ;-) |
| 23:58.03 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:58.06 | Peoii | imho, write an Sct like mod first, that a) doesn't suck, b) has a far better config gui than MSBT, c) groups aoe's like MSBT does, and d) runs as smoothly as sct does on my computer :P |
| 23:58.28 | Antiarc|Work | I'm going home |
| 23:58.33 | Antiarc|Work | Have a good one folks |
| 23:58.39 | Peoii | later Antiarc. |
| 23:58.44 | Galka | Take care Antiarc |
| 23:59.13 | Ominous | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/62050 is my lefts settings but i still get two offlines when someone is offline |
| 23:59.14 | Kaelten | ok guys I need some feedback |
| 23:59.37 | Peoii | Kaelten: Yes, that dress makes you look fat. |
| 23:59.41 | Kaelten | damnit |
| 23:59.47 | Adirelle | oh. I remember now, I have to check if reseting the MT also resets the threat |
| 23:59.55 | ckknight | 2 offlines where? |
| 23:59.56 | Ominous | kaelten: fire away |
