| 00:00.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Lance. |
| 00:00.11 | ckknight | I'm liking CowTip best. |
| 00:00.24 | ZealotOnAStick | You and your bloody animal thing. |
| 00:00.35 | ckknight | it's funnier than your ideas. |
| 00:00.42 | Chompers | this reminds me when we were thinking up names for pitbull |
| 00:00.55 | Chompers | CKUF :P |
| 00:01.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:01.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:01.08 | Kinkx | Any ideas of what kind of features CowTip will have? :) |
| 00:01.17 | ckknight | Kinkx: main thing is tag-based |
| 00:01.22 | ckknight | it'll use DogTag or something |
| 00:01.29 | Kinkx | Ah okie, cool :) |
| 00:01.30 | Chompers | awesome |
| 00:01.35 | NightHawkTheSane | CowTipper sounds better, imo |
| 00:01.42 | ckknight | works for me |
| 00:01.46 | Morghus | I'm surprised you haven't decided to make an ItemRack replacement yet :P |
| 00:01.52 | ckknight | never used ItemRack |
| 00:02.08 | ckknight | also, a tooltip addon seems ... really, really easy |
| 00:02.15 | Morghus | Yeah, but to quote you "to brown Gellos nose a bit" :P |
| 00:02.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: itemrack is mroe or less closetgnome |
| 00:02.30 | ckknight | don't use that, either |
| 00:02.30 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:02.33 | ZealotOnAStick | If I get around to it, I'm going to name a little tiny thing I'm going to write if I get around to it Chibi Japanese Pirate Ninja |
| 00:02.39 | NightHawkTheSane | well, meh, i say! MEH! |
| 00:02.43 | Morghus | What do you use as a gear-changer ckknight? |
| 00:02.51 | ckknight | I have a lvl 39 Pally. |
| 00:03.26 | Morghus | Ah, allright 0) |
| 00:03.29 | Morghus | *=) |
| 00:03.30 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: see, I'm not going to name my shit "TinyWhatever", cause what if I want to bloat it, later? don't pin yourself in a corner |
| 00:03.35 | Chompers | its all downhill from there ckk |
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| 00:04.29 | Morghus | but CowTip owns <3 |
| 00:04.36 | ckknight | going with CowTipper |
| 00:04.38 | ckknight | I think |
| 00:04.39 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 00:04.42 | ckknight | CowTip or CowTipper? |
| 00:04.51 | Keias | CowTip |
| 00:04.51 | dacoffey | CowTip |
| 00:04.54 | ckknight | frankly, I like the bluntness of CowTip |
| 00:04.58 | hyperChipmunk | i like cowtip |
| 00:04.58 | Keias | Because it can stand for CowTipping or CowTipper |
| 00:04.59 | Peoii | If it's going to be cow related, might as well make it CowsWithGuns |
| 00:05.02 | hyperChipmunk | it's less obvious |
| 00:05.02 | Chompers | Cowtipper is more accurate, but cowtip sounds better |
| 00:05.06 | Morghus | CowTipper doesn't sound as funny as CowTip :P |
| 00:05.14 | ckknight | yea, agreed |
| 00:05.15 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40924 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Adds dispel recording |
| 00:05.18 | hyperChipmunk | cowtip you have to think awhile to get teh funnay |
| 00:05.36 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: no you don't. cow tipping is funny. |
| 00:05.45 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 00:05.53 | abyssichate | "cowtip is broken!!!!111" |
| 00:05.55 | abyssichate | can you foresee it? |
| 00:06.21 | Morghus | "cowtip dosnt work"..."Push harder?" |
| 00:06.27 | Chompers | tooltips + Dogtag |
| 00:06.27 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 00:06.30 | Chompers | awesome |
| 00:06.55 | Keias | Too bad there isn't any cow looking dogs |
| 00:06.57 | Cryect | go with CowTip |
| 00:07.03 | NeoTron | so the hard part in void reaver is having 14-15 DPS that are capable of outputting on average 500 DPS for 10 minutes without getting blown up or pounded into pieces |
| 00:07.05 | abyssichate | you should go with chiwawa! |
| 00:07.14 | Chompers | when you said you wanted to make a unitframe addon i thought it wasnt worth it, with aguf being around |
| 00:07.27 | Chompers | so looking forward to seeing what you do with this |
| 00:07.27 | ckknight | ah, ffs, what category does it go under? |
| 00:07.29 | abyssichate | NeoTron: pretty much |
| 00:07.35 | Cryect | NeoTron: Its pretty easy now |
| 00:07.45 | Cryect | it used to be somewhat hard before they nerfed his HP slightly |
| 00:07.45 | abyssichate | yeah, don't ask for nerfs! |
| 00:07.48 | NeoTron | Cryect: hey I saw some screenshot of recount having a timeline of DPS etc.. but I can't figure out how to get that view. Was it my imagination |
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| 00:07.50 | ckknight | Chompers: I have to conquer the entire UI, Manifest Destiny and all. |
| 00:08.00 | Cryect | Neotron which timeline :-p |
| 00:08.04 | Chompers | muahaa |
| 00:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | interface enhancements |
| 00:08.30 | NeoTron | maybe it was a case of mistaken identity.. hold on |
| 00:08.33 | ckknight | I was gonna go with Frame Modification |
| 00:08.57 | hyperChipmunk | since it's used in all parts of the interface |
| 00:08.57 | ckknight | but I guess it's Interface Enhancements |
| 00:08.57 | hyperChipmunk | oh, that's a category? |
| 00:08.59 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:09.00 | Cryect | NeoTron: Shift Click Brings up Time Data, Ctrl Click brings up Realtime Graphs, and Alt Click adds something to the Graph Window for comparison purposes |
| 00:09.06 | NeoTron | http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot061607120751kb6.jpg |
| 00:09.15 | NeoTron | ah magic mouse clicks |
| 00:09.40 | NeoTron | I'm trying to evaluate why some dpsers do such bad DPS and I suspect they run out of mana or similar |
| 00:09.46 | NeoTron | like mages not using pots practively |
| 00:09.54 | Cryect | Doesn't track mana yet afraid |
| 00:10.00 | NeoTron | well |
| 00:10.03 | NeoTron | that's fine |
| 00:10.05 | Chompers | i remember testing out pitbull on my 41 b.elf paladin in badlands |
| 00:10.09 | Cryect | you still can see when their DPS drops off |
| 00:10.12 | NeoTron | I wanted to see if damage output is a consistent low |
| 00:10.15 | Cryect | alt click to compare to people |
| 00:10.18 | NeoTron | or if it starts high and then drops |
| 00:10.25 | sbu | uhah wtb |
| 00:10.28 | Chompers | i made an alliance pally, im now 41 and in the badlands, maybe ill be trying out cowtip |
| 00:10.31 | sbu | how does that work? |
| 00:10.36 | NeoTron | I assume it syncs? |
| 00:10.44 | Morghus | NeoTron: Do you run some sort of damagemeter raid-wide? If not, you should. Nothing beats telling people "You're bad dps. l2dps, or gtfo" :) |
| 00:10.51 | Cryect | Set your combat log range to 200 yds its not a full sync |
| 00:11.01 | NeoTron | we have primarily sws running. some ppl run minnastats |
| 00:11.03 | Cryect | Morghus: Helps if they can see why |
| 00:11.04 | NeoTron | I tend to run like 3... |
| 00:11.14 | NeoTron | didn't they nerf combat log range in 2.1? |
| 00:11.16 | sbu | Cryect: how to view that graph? :p |
| 00:11.16 | Cryect | I mean just telling people you suck doesn't help for a lot of people :-p |
| 00:11.18 | Cryect | NeoTron: no |
| 00:11.23 | Cryect | <Cryect> NeoTron: Shift Click Brings up Time Data, Ctrl Click brings up Realtime Graphs, and Alt Click adds something to the Graph Window for comparison purposes |
| 00:11.28 | ckknight | lol, Chompers |
| 00:11.29 | sbu | oh hm |
| 00:11.30 | sbu | okay |
| 00:11.34 | NeoTron | oo oh |
| 00:11.34 | sbu | *testing* |
| 00:11.41 | Kinkx | We put 2 shadow priests with 3 mages in a group, mana isn't a problem then :) |
| 00:11.43 | Morghus | Cryect: If you can't be arsed to get off your ass and and your fellow <class>, you don't belong in raids :P |
| 00:11.44 | NeoTron | wonder how large Void Reavers room is |
| 00:11.46 | Cryect | I need like a tutorial mode |
| 00:11.49 | Morghus | *and ask your |
| 00:11.54 | NeoTron | and I'm sure my combat log range is long |
| 00:11.59 | NeoTron | maybe I 'll do some testing |
| 00:12.18 | NeoTron | Cryect: a readme file might help :) |
| 00:12.23 | NeoTron | or tooltips |
| 00:12.24 | Cryect | Morghus: for bleeding edge guilds I agree for lower to middle end raiding guilds you have people who might not be able to spend time outside of game leaerning how to play |
| 00:12.36 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r40925 10beql/ (26 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:12.36 | CIA-22 | beql: initial commit |
| 00:12.36 | CIA-22 | - beql is an ACE rewrite of the Extended QuestLog by Daniel Rehn |
| 00:12.40 | sbu | Recount\GUI_Graph.lua:838: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'TimeRangeUpper' (a nil value) |
| 00:12.40 | ckknight | part of me wonders whether it'd be worthwhile using Tablet instead of modifying GameTooltip. |
| 00:12.41 | sbu | hm |
| 00:12.42 | sbu | :) |
| 00:12.52 | NeoTron | for T5 and above content ppl really need to be pretty darn good on average |
| 00:12.53 | ckknight | ah, probably not |
| 00:13.13 | Cryect | Yeah, its basically still in development so haven't spent a lot of time with that stuff because I like to change how its setup |
| 00:13.18 | Morghus | Cryect: I'm aware, which is why you have friends throwing in some information from the sidelines. It's better to spend 2 hours in a raid chatting about the dps, and improve it for 1 month, than have bad dps for all eternity :P |
| 00:13.27 | NeoTron | oooh btw Cryect.. I have a "really want this badly" request... |
| 00:13.30 | Cryect | I'm thinking potential a right click dropdown but thats time consuming |
| 00:13.31 | NeoTron | per-encounter data |
| 00:13.40 | Cryect | You have that kinda |
| 00:13.41 | NeoTron | only one I know that does this is minnastats but it's incredibly useful |
| 00:13.54 | NeoTron | you can go click on each past encounter or view the grand total |
| 00:13.54 | Cryect | just no way to save it currently |
| 00:13.57 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 00:14.10 | Cryect | Well you can see overall, last fight or current fight |
| 00:14.11 | sbu | Cryect: wtf - realtime graph looks awesome |
| 00:14.12 | Cryect | currently |
| 00:14.16 | sbu | nice :) |
| 00:14.18 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 00:14.25 | NeoTron | I know that much |
| 00:14.38 | Cryect | Its setup so I can add in saving of fights and have actual phase fight data saved fairly easily |
| 00:14.41 | NeoTron | just really hard to replace minnastats with anything atm :-./ |
| 00:14.44 | Cryect | when I add the stuff for that |
| 00:14.50 | NeoTron | ok look forward to that |
| 00:14.58 | Cryect | I've not heard of MinnaStats will have to check that out for ideas to steal |
| 00:15.13 | Cryect | Prolly will be sometime after I add in the summary reports on players |
| 00:15.20 | NeoTron | the one thing that make mstats useful over any of the other ones is the timeline feature |
| 00:15.29 | NeoTron | I mean sws has a timeline but mstats is automatic per encounter |
| 00:15.43 | Cryect | Heh well the graph window is that :-p |
| 00:15.46 | NeoTron | main flaw is all the "a rat" entries when ppl run around killing a rat :) |
| 00:16.01 | NeoTron | can you zoom the graph window? |
| 00:16.03 | Cryect | yes |
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| 00:16.06 | Cryect | you can drag zoom |
| 00:16.10 | Cryect | or click on an individual fight |
| 00:16.16 | hypetech | how does the reset on doomwalker work? |
| 00:16.17 | NeoTron | is the "timeline duration" parameter for that data? |
| 00:16.18 | Cryect | right click zooms out to full |
| 00:16.24 | Cryect | Yes |
| 00:16.27 | NeoTron | cool |
| 00:16.29 | hypetech | we killed him monday, server patch was tuesday, shouldn't he be up tonight? |
| 00:16.30 | Cryect | it controls how much data will be saved max |
| 00:16.36 | NeoTron | I'll try to get a few more ppl to use it tonight for sync purposes |
| 00:16.41 | Cryect | yes hypetech |
| 00:16.55 | Cryect | NeoTron: heh don't bother all it syncs for now is that players data |
| 00:17.07 | NeoTron | ah |
| 00:17.09 | NeoTron | ok |
| 00:17.16 | Cryect | It uses a lot of data is the issue |
| 00:17.22 | NeoTron | so how do I set the combat log range up to be 100% sure I've done it>? |
| 00:17.22 | Cryect | so I can't have everyone send all their data |
| 00:17.29 | Cryect | one second |
| 00:17.36 | NeoTron | you could do it post-fight? |
| 00:17.44 | NeoTron | maybe have an on-demand sync feature? |
| 00:17.51 | Cryect | post fight syncing is a real pain |
| 00:17.56 | Cryect | requires storing data that I prefer not to |
| 00:18.02 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 00:18.03 | Cryect | and it messes up other data |
| 00:18.10 | Cryect | it woudl screw up the time data |
| 00:18.29 | NeoTron | if the combat log range is still 200yr (I thought it was maxed at 40 now) it might still be ok |
| 00:18.40 | Cryect | it is |
| 00:18.52 | Cryect | I match up the numbers like exactly to SWS on every fight |
| 00:19.13 | NeoTron | hm I have the following in my Config file |
| 00:19.17 | NeoTron | SET CombatLogRangeCreature "150" |
| 00:19.17 | NeoTron | SET CombatDeathLogRange "150" |
| 00:19.20 | NeoTron | that's it |
| 00:19.40 | Cryect | http://ace.pastey.net/57491 |
| 00:19.44 | sbu | its SET CombatLogRangeCreature "200" here |
| 00:19.54 | hypetech | did they move doomwalker from SMV? |
| 00:20.12 | Cryect | thats all them in that function I have there |
| 00:20.17 | NeoTron | ah |
| 00:20.24 | NeoTron | does your addon by chance set that automatically? |
| 00:20.32 | NeoTron | or have an option to? or does any ace addon/library? :) |
| 00:20.39 | NeoTron | I swear I set more of them in my config file before |
| 00:20.55 | Cryect | heh not yet I will go add that in |
| 00:21.08 | Cryect | was going to add that in why doing other stuff but was kinda sick at the time |
| 00:21.12 | Cryect | while* |
| 00:21.14 | NeoTron | :) |
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| 00:21.59 | NeoTron | I'd love to go down to just one parser |
| 00:22.16 | NeoTron | since they typically aren't the lightest thing you can run |
| 00:22.20 | Cryect | yeah |
| 00:22.28 | NeoTron | also use /combatlog |
| 00:22.35 | Cryect | Processing actually for parsers is actually pretty light normally |
| 00:22.57 | NeoTron | they nerfed the epic flying mount skill cost? |
| 00:23.05 | Cryect | I don't think so? |
| 00:23.46 | rubik | check out LoggerHead on SVN.. sets combat log range and toggles on/off per instance too |
| 00:24.01 | rubik | if you want that kind of stuff |
| 00:24.27 | NeoTron | rubik: oh cool. |
| 00:24.44 | NeoTron | when not in an instance I don't mind nearly no combat log.. :P |
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| 00:25.56 | rubik | looks like it just does a /combatlog to toggle on/off when zoning in/out of places.. and it prompts when you enter new zone if you'd like stuff logged there or not (or you can manually only check zones from fubar menu or whatever that you'd like logged) |
| 00:26.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40926 10CowTip/ (. CowTip.lua CowTip.toc embeds.xml icon.tga libs/): |
| 00:26.32 | CIA-22 | CowTip - initial commit |
| 00:26.32 | CIA-22 | Tooltip of awesomeness. Moo. It'll graze your pasture. |
| 00:26.32 | CIA-22 | Basically, it'll be a tag-based tooltip mod, minimally. Doesn't do anything yet. |
| 00:26.47 | sbu | hmhm |
| 00:27.00 | pastamancer | bah tags, get a proper DSL! |
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| 00:27.11 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:27.20 | sbu | ckknight: but thats no scrolling combat text addon! :p |
| 00:27.26 | hyperChipmunk | dedicated scripting language |
| 00:27.33 | pastamancer | domain-specific language |
| 00:27.34 | Cryect | haha |
| 00:27.35 | ckknight | sbu: true. |
| 00:27.39 | ckknight | sbu: maybe that'll be next |
| 00:27.42 | hyperChipmunk | that's it |
| 00:27.43 | ckknight | sbu: maybe it won't |
| 00:28.06 | ckknight | pastamancer: I haven't seen the appeal yet in DSLs. |
| 00:28.25 | sbu | ckknight: would be great ;) |
| 00:28.46 | pastamancer | hopefully I'll find some free time to show you soon |
| 00:28.51 | sbu | ckknight: want me to pay 1$? :/ |
| 00:28.55 | ckknight | cool |
| 00:29.01 | ckknight | sbu: *shrug* do what you feel like |
| 00:29.14 | Cryect | Whats wrong with the current scrolling combat text addons? :-p |
| 00:29.28 | ckknight | Cryect: SCT is bloated and coded poorly, imho |
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| 00:29.40 | NightHawkTheSane | there's msbt |
| 00:29.42 | pastamancer | I still want a DSL for unit frames |
| 00:29.42 | Cryect | there is another one thats not bloated and a lot lighter |
| 00:29.45 | Cryect | yeah msbt |
| 00:30.09 | deltron | hmm |
| 00:30.12 | deltron | so |
| 00:30.15 | rubik | hmm.. msbt |
| 00:30.22 | Galka | Sorry, just got into this convo |
| 00:30.25 | hyperChipmunk | ~msbt |
| 00:30.26 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 00:30.26 | Galka | What's a lot lighter? |
| 00:30.50 | Cryect | So I hear its lighter performance wise at least |
| 00:31.03 | ckknight | pastamancer: well, I'm interested in the concept, I just don't know much about it, thus don't see the appeal |
| 00:31.18 | Cryect | well you could write some simple code that would describe your Unit Frames basically |
| 00:31.29 | Cryect | instead of configuring them |
| 00:31.34 | deltron | http://ace.pastey.net/57517 <-- anyone know what's causing this? It's with many mods |
| 00:31.45 | Cryect | shrug its more appealing to a coder for configuring and less to nonprogrammers |
| 00:31.54 | pastamancer | yeah, I need to solidify the direstion I want to go with it |
| 00:32.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40927 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - make the FuBar tooltip work |
| 00:32.56 | Galka | LOL |
| 00:32.58 | Galka | At that name. |
| 00:33.13 | Chompers | a ckknight made SCT addon would be interesting |
| 00:33.22 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:34.30 | ckknight | Galka: it's meant to create "lol"s |
| 00:36.12 | ckknight | I mean, just doing it for the lulz |
| 00:36.25 | mikma | JoshBorke: didn't you plan to name your addon as CowTip some months ago |
| 00:36.40 | pastamancer | but the general idea is to make it easier to create crazy custom unit frames... so people don't have to worry about events, they just lay out the frames and the widgets and declaratively set values to widget attributes |
| 00:36.51 | JoshBorke | mikma: yea, but i went with ClickTip |
| 00:36.54 | JoshBorke | more descriptive |
| 00:37.00 | pastamancer | like PlayerFrame.healthbar.value = unit:player:health |
| 00:37.13 | mikma | i thought that name sounds familiar |
| 00:37.23 | aen` | ckknight: the raid frames still show the health bar when disabled, its like 1px high |
| 00:37.41 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, sounds like the tag stuff in assessment |
| 00:37.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40928 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - bugfix in minimap menu positioning |
| 00:37.50 | aen` | ckknight: i think the problem is that the All Units options overrides it |
| 00:37.55 | KarlThePagan | which I'm a good fan of at the moment |
| 00:38.01 | rubik | holy crap MSBT looks like it kicks ass |
| 00:38.06 | rubik | thanks for mentioning it |
| 00:38.08 | ckknight | aen`: All Units overrides everything |
| 00:38.10 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 00:38.12 | Keias | yeah, I love MSBT |
| 00:38.16 | ckknight | aen`: but it's just a setter, not a getter |
| 00:38.19 | hyperChipmunk | somebody doesn't use msbt? |
| 00:38.39 | ckknight | aen`: if you go to the raid menu, go to Health Bar, is it Enabled or not? |
| 00:38.41 | rubik | i'm halfway through the divx video demo thing and i was almost drooling here at work |
| 00:38.46 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: i use SCT |
| 00:38.53 | rubik | but yeah.. i currently use sct |
| 00:38.57 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r40929 10beql/: beql: Updating externals |
| 00:39.01 | hyperChipmunk | ~console JoshBorke |
| 00:39.02 | purl | ACTION gives JoshBorke the consolation moose |
| 00:39.04 | Keias | Try using SCT as a warlock :P |
| 00:39.06 | Bruners | i prefer msbt |
| 00:39.10 | hyperChipmunk | ~console rubik |
| 00:39.11 | purl | ACTION gives rubik the consolation moose |
| 00:39.15 | rubik | :P |
| 00:39.53 | aen` | ckknight: health bar disabled, i just disabled in all units too, theres a small 1px line where i can see it |
| 00:40.06 | ckknight | hover over it |
| 00:40.07 | Andune | does anyone use a set of raid frames they are really enthusiastic about that also includes the targets of raid members? |
| 00:40.12 | Thorgard | Moo? CowTip? |
| 00:40.14 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.17 | ckknight | Thorgard: Moo! |
| 00:40.26 | Thorgard | Tooltips for Tauren? |
| 00:40.37 | ckknight | or for people who like pushing em over |
| 00:40.41 | pastamancer | Andune: target of raid members? as if 25 frames on your screen weren't enough?! |
| 00:40.53 | Andune | I'm a PitBull user and love Pitbull, but I tried it's raid frames and the were kinda buggy. esp. as people come and go |
| 00:40.54 | Cryect | 50 Frames wouldn't be that bad |
| 00:41.02 | Cryect | I mean we used to have 40 frames |
| 00:41.05 | ckknight | Andune: and I fixed it... |
| 00:41.11 | ckknight | Andune: least I think so |
| 00:41.27 | Andune | pastamancer: shrug. Grid redefined how I thought about raid frames. with Grid, 40 raid frames doesn't bother me. |
| 00:41.52 | pastamancer | I actually like to see what's going on around me :p |
| 00:41.53 | Andune | I figure it shouldn't be that hard to organize 10 or 25-man raid frames with targets right next to 'em in a way that wasn't a huge distration. |
| 00:42.09 | Cryect | go for a big circle and turn on interactlines! |
| 00:42.21 | Andune | I'm not suggesting running in 640x480 with 40 raid frames and target frames covering your whole screen. I mean, if that's what you want to do, go for it.. |
| 00:42.24 | NightHawkTheSane | If the frames were praid style, having tot might not be -too- bad |
| 00:42.31 | Cryect | so you have your porthole in the middle to view the world then get a nice spiderweb as healers heal :-p |
| 00:42.53 | Andune | but for me, having a 10-man raid frames on the left side with target frames next to 'em would be real nice. Just shrink 'em down a bit |
| 00:43.00 | Andune | ckknight: ok thx I"ll give it a try today :) |
| 00:43.07 | aen` | ckknight: im taking a screenshot |
| 00:43.34 | Andune | LOVE Pitbull by the way. following this IRC and the forums, I had gotten the impression the Raid Frames were buggy, and my own personal experience proved it true |
| 00:43.49 | Andune | but if it's fixed, I'm a happy camper and will enjoy usin 'em :) |
| 00:43.50 | aen` | ckknight: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3921/wowscrnshot062007194308zy0.jpg << see on the rogs? |
| 00:45.03 | ckknight | no, aen`, I can't see. do the hover over and /print GetMouseFocus().healthBar ~= nill |
| 00:45.07 | aen` | ckknight: then i get a Healtbar.lua error |
| 00:45.24 | aen` | 217: attempt to index field 'heathbar' a nil value |
| 00:45.24 | ckknight | see, if you get an error that's the absolute first thing you should tell me. |
| 00:45.32 | Andune | pastamancer: take a look at aen's screenshot. Now replace the buffs frame (I use XRS to track raid buffs) with a target frame that is half the size of the players bar, and I'm happy. |
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| 00:46.05 | Industrial | aen` "healtBar", case sensitive |
| 00:46.24 | whatsinthename | hello guys |
| 00:46.33 | hyperChipmunk | heathbar is a candy |
| 00:46.36 | pastamancer | hum, could be worse... seems more micro-management than I'd care for |
| 00:46.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40930 10PitBull/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: PitBull_HealthBar - add checks if .healthBar is nil |
| 00:46.45 | ckknight | hey whatsinthename |
| 00:46.49 | hyperChipmunk | try sticking an l in there |
| 00:46.57 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r40931 10beql/ (Changelog.txt beql.toc): beql - small toc update |
| 00:47.05 | whatsinthename | anyone have experience with parserlib |
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| 00:47.30 | Antiarc | So I'm trying to profile Threeat/Omen |
| 00:47.40 | ckknight | whatsinthename: 1.1 or 3.0? |
| 00:47.41 | Antiarc | But I have the addons shown in FuBar_PerformanceFu to 20 |
| 00:47.44 | Antiarc | And they aren't in the top 20. |
| 00:47.45 | Antiarc | :/ |
| 00:47.47 | Antiarc | :) |
| 00:47.48 | Antiarc | :/ |
| 00:47.54 | hyperChipmunk | yea i hate that |
| 00:48.00 | whatsinthename | right now i am using 1.1, trying to track two events specifically |
| 00:48.01 | hyperChipmunk | but not too much =) |
| 00:48.03 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc |
| 00:48.13 | Antiarc | In other words, Tablet's addLine is a hungry little bastard. |
| 00:48.14 | ckknight | whatsinthename: sorry, I only deal with 3.0 (I'm the author) |
| 00:48.19 | Industrial | Antiarc use less then 20 addons |
| 00:48.22 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:48.31 | whatsinthename | where can i get 3.0, shud not be hard to port to 3.0 |
| 00:48.39 | Industrial | (for testing ofcourse >_>) |
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| 00:49.18 | Awaa | whatsinthename: files.wowace.com |
| 00:49.29 | whatsinthename | kk |
| 00:49.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40932 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - set the max number of addons to profile to GetNumAddOns() instead of 20. |
| 00:49.53 | ckknight | whatsinthename: the API's a bit different (easier if you ask me) |
| 00:50.00 | ckknight | whatsinthename: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parser-3.0 |
| 00:50.09 | ckknight | Antiarc: there you go |
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| 00:50.32 | Cryect | <Antiarc> And they aren't in the top 20. |
| 00:50.37 | Cryect | Make your addons perform worst! |
| 00:50.52 | Kaydeethree | hey ckk, 2.1.2's out. /pokes topic |
| 00:50.56 | whatsinthename | okay my question is, for example when a mob dies u get xp and rep, 3-4 events r fired in succession |
| 00:51.09 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater |
| 00:51.21 | ckknight | whatsinthename: true. |
| 00:51.37 | whatsinthename | is there a way to code so that a function only executes when a mob dies and u get rep, and not only when the mob dies |
| 00:51.58 | ckknight | basically, what you do is track em both |
| 00:52.13 | ckknight | and when they both happen for the same mob within, let's say a second, then you use tat. |
| 00:52.14 | ckknight | that* |
| 00:52.24 | ckknight | :-) |
| 00:52.31 | Funkeh` | ckknight: what the fuck lol |
| 00:52.36 | Funkeh` | ckknight: cowtip |
| 00:52.42 | ckknight | Funkeh`: yep. |
| 00:52.53 | whatsinthename | thanx lol |
| 00:54.07 | NimbleRabit | so this rogue is 15/41/55 |
| 00:54.07 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: have you heard of TinyTip? |
| 00:54.09 | NimbleRabit | according to tattle |
| 00:54.10 | rubik | oh forgot to ask.. what kind of tooltip we talkign about, ckknight? like.. tinytip stuff? or item tooltips? |
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| 00:54.23 | Funkeh` | JoshBorke: you can get more minimal that tinytip |
| 00:54.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40933 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 00:54.27 | CIA-22 | CowTip - add /CowTip slash command |
| 00:54.27 | CIA-22 | - add AceHook-2.1 to libs |
| 00:54.28 | ckknight | rubik: unit tooltips |
| 00:54.35 | ckknight | rubik: so, TinyTip style |
| 00:54.36 | Chompers | i came up against 5 mages in the arena today, huge 'oh shit' moment when i saw 5 mages in gladiator |
| 00:54.36 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: not by including the Ace stack |
| 00:54.38 | Chompers | http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvpmageuo0.jpg |
| 00:54.40 | rubik | gotcha.. cool |
| 00:55.00 | ckknight | so you all know, I'm not aiming for CowTip to be as small as humanly possible, don't expect that |
| 00:55.10 | Funkeh` | JoshBorke: and you assumed i wanted it to be ace? |
| 00:55.12 | Lywellyn|Away | The Cow Tipper! :D |
| 00:55.16 | ckknight | but you can expect it to be tag-based, which means über-configuration |
| 00:55.20 | Cryect | so more like the size of a cow then? |
| 00:55.26 | ckknight | and you can expect it to have the same polish as I give my other mods |
| 00:55.29 | rubik | fair enough |
| 00:55.38 | Kirkburn | ckknight, pour toi - http://www.neatorama.com/2007/06/20/which-bar-do-soldiers-and-computer-scientists-go-to-drink/ |
| 00:55.40 | Chompers | it sucks that the ratings were reset, all the 2000+ rated teams are about |
| 00:55.42 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: sorry, i assumed (i know, makes me an ass) that you were referencing cowtip |
| 00:55.53 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 00:56.23 | ckknight | Kirkburn: lols |
| 00:56.37 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 00:57.12 | aen` | Prat.lua:1142 : attempt to call method 'Isdebugging' (nil value) |
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| 00:58.47 | sbu_ | Chompers: just wait 2-3 days? :p |
| 00:59.03 | aen` | ckknight: banzai.lua, same error |
| 00:59.10 | aen` | ckknight: just updated |
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| 01:00.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40934 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai - fix for when healthBar doesn't exist |
| 01:01.29 | Funkeh` | Antiarc / Antiarc|Work |
| 01:03.39 | Chompers | yeah sbu, but we need our arena fix now! |
| 01:08.33 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40935 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua): Recount - Setups the combat log range to be configurable in the options |
| 01:11.28 | Antiarc | Yo |
| 01:11.59 | sbu_ | hmmmm |
| 01:12.04 | sbu_ | they broke surge of light again? |
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| 01:12.19 | sbu_ | costs mana and crits :o |
| 01:13.16 | Awaa | Hm, can you change combat log range again? |
| 01:13.44 | Cryect | yes, it was never broken on live |
| 01:13.55 | sylvaan | Funkeh` my old session is locked up |
| 01:14.11 | sylvaan | Funkeh` get 53 from sf |
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| 01:20.10 | Antiarc | I've been out here fighting random mobs for the last 5 minutes or so. KTM: 19.27s. Omen: 307ms. Threat: Less than 132ms, because it isn't in the top 20. |
| 01:20.29 | Antiarc | Someone was saying that Threat/Omen was taking a ton more CPU than KTM in combat, but I'm not buying it ;) |
| 01:20.42 | Cryect | hahaha |
| 01:20.44 | Cryect | who was saying that |
| 01:20.59 | Jaxon | I don't see how it is possible to use more CPU than KTM |
| 01:21.02 | Kirkburn | Woah, 20 seconds?? |
| 01:21.03 | Jaxon | IN ANY SITUATION |
| 01:21.25 | Cryect | I can pop up like 4 realtime windows in Recount before graphlib is even using as much KTM |
| 01:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | dude, i don't think i could make an addon that used that much CPU if i tried |
| 01:21.38 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: I could. |
| 01:21.43 | Kirkburn | 20 seconds of CPU is absolutely crazy |
| 01:21.52 | Antiarc | 20 seconds of CPU in not that much session time. |
| 01:22.00 | Cryect | well its not that crazy for some stuff |
| 01:22.01 | Kirkburn | indeedily |
| 01:22.04 | Cryect | its crazy for what KTM does |
| 01:22.10 | Antiarc | But that's according to the Blizzard profiler and we all know how broken and not-reliable that is rite? |
| 01:22.14 | Antiarc | I'll time it. |
| 01:22.25 | Kirkburn | Yes, perhaps not crazy if I was trying to calculate Pi to the millionth digit in WoW |
| 01:22.37 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 01:22.48 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 01:22.54 | Antiarc | Loaded at 6:22:40 |
| 01:23.15 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: seems to be working |
| 01:26.07 | Antiarc | Measurements at 6:25:57 |
| 01:26.29 | Antiarc | KTM: 13.27 sec, Omen 265ms, Threat: <103ms (not visible) |
| 01:27.29 | Cryect | your measurement code must be biased against him! |
| 01:27.40 | Antiarc | Obviously |
| 01:27.45 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r40936 10Decursive/Decursive.toc: |
| 01:27.45 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 01:27.45 | CIA-22 | - Added donation tag in Decursive.toc |
| 01:27.45 | Antiarc | I'm gonna go instal KLHPerformanceMeter |
| 01:27.51 | hyperChipmunk | d00d u haf 2 use his profiler |
| 01:27.51 | Cryect | Antiarc for kicks |
| 01:28.01 | Cryect | use the graph in Omen also |
| 01:28.08 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 01:28.31 | Cryect | I didn't think he upgraded KPM to 2.0 yet |
| 01:28.38 | Kirkburn | I remember reading the convo on CG a while back about KLH, has it kept going? |
| 01:28.42 | Antiarc | He did |
| 01:28.46 | Antiarc | Kirkburn: Oh yes |
| 01:28.51 | Antiarc | It erupted into an epic flamewar |
| 01:28.54 | Kirkburn | orly? link, link! |
| 01:28.56 | Antiarc | Though most of the flames were coming from one side. |
| 01:28.58 | Antiarc | *cough* |
| 01:29.01 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 01:29.07 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I saw that starting |
| 01:29.32 | hyperChipmunk | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 01:29.42 | Kirkburn | omg, 123 pages? |
| 01:29.54 | Kirkburn | There is no way I am reading all that |
| 01:30.00 | hyperChipmunk | only the last 10 or so are relevant |
| 01:30.15 | Antiarc | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/?cpage=8 and read forward |
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| 01:33.39 | Wobwork | oh man =P |
| 01:33.40 | Wobwork | http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2007/06/20/1182019162978.html |
| 01:33.44 | Wobwork | O.O |
| 01:33.44 | Kirkburn | Hey, I didn't know this "aggro gain for melee is 110% and for ranged is 130%" |
| 01:33.50 | Wobwork | not particularly sft |
| 01:33.51 | Wobwork | er sfw |
| 01:33.58 | Wobwork | even though it's a published newspaper =P |
| 01:34.08 | Kirkburn | eww |
| 01:34.12 | Wobwork | Best headline ever, though =P |
| 01:34.35 | Kirkburn | I can imagine people thinking "after he was stabbed?!" |
| 01:34.51 | Wobwork | well |
| 01:34.54 | Wobwork | He did =P |
| 01:34.58 | Wobwork | after he was stabbed =) |
| 01:38.11 | Antiarc | So uh |
| 01:38.17 | Antiarc | KPM shows KTM at the top |
| 01:38.18 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40937 10Recount/ (. Recount.toc): Recount - Fixes a missing external |
| 01:38.21 | Antiarc | And can't find Omen/Threat |
| 01:38.22 | Antiarc | :/ |
| 01:39.08 | Antiarc | Obviously, Omen/Threat takes 0 CPU time |
| 01:39.33 | Chompers | it actually creates new cpu cycles |
| 01:39.38 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:39.56 | Cryect | You can modify KPM to show more fairly easily |
| 01:40.10 | aen` | ckknight: there is still a trace of the health bar showing up when disabled, i cant figure it out |
| 01:40.11 | shieldb | Antiarc, can you add a "reset position to center" option to omen? ;) |
| 01:40.16 | aen` | ckknight: its like 1px high |
| 01:40.29 | ckknight | aen`: did you do the print thing I asked you to do, twice? |
| 01:40.43 | Antiarc | shieldb: Sure. |
| 01:40.52 | Kirkburn | I've only just finished page 8 of the thread :/ Now for page 7 |
| 01:40.57 | aen` | ckknight: prob missed it |
| 01:41.46 | ckknight | aen`: you'd better scroll up, then |
| 01:42.53 | shieldb | people are having omen jump to offscreen or almost offscreen positions when upgrading from r39xxx versions and walking them through deleting savedvars is a pain :) |
| 01:42.57 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: did you do a push for .53 |
| 01:43.12 | Antiarc | shieldb: It's clamped to the screen. Probably shows in the bottom left. |
| 01:43.15 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40938 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes CVARs trying to be set too early |
| 01:43.44 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` yes |
| 01:43.56 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` to sf.net |
| 01:44.33 | RogueShadow | Ok ok, how can I definitively and totally copy my PitBull layouts/ arrangements. whatever you call it, so that all my chars have the exact same setup with it. Last time I accidentally reverted it to the defaults. o.O |
| 01:45.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40939 10Omen/ (OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added a "reset position" option. "/omen display center" or use the menu option to get it back. |
| 01:46.13 | Antiarc | I just realized that all my tests a moment ago were with KTM hidden |
| 01:46.33 | aen` | ckknight: says false |
| 01:47.01 | Killmore | Antiarc: dont know if someone already told you |
| 01:47.02 | Killmore | [2007/06/20 20:55:07-105-x3]: Threat-1.0-40902 (Threat-1.0):917: Assertion failed: type(nil --[=[partyUnits[player]]=]) == "string" |
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| 01:48.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40940 10PitBull/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: PitBull_HealthBar - don't populate if supposed to be hidden. |
| 01:48.32 | ckknight | aen`: test that |
| 01:48.37 | Cryect | Antiarc: so is that the same Shadowed as on the EJ forums? |
| 01:48.45 | ckknight | RogueShadow: save your layout. |
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| 01:48.58 | ckknight | RogueShadow: possibly export it and put it on the forums if you want |
| 01:48.58 | Kaelten | ok who wants to have some fun? |
| 01:49.02 | Cryect | I really wonder what is that guys relationship to Kenco, he seems to have some sort of vested interest :-p |
| 01:49.04 | NeoTron | so for the first time ever I actually have an idea for an addon I'd like to make that might actually be useful for ppl |
| 01:49.22 | RogueShadow | ckknight: That will also save the positions of the frames? party frames, pet frames, target frames. etc? |
| 01:49.28 | NeoTron | other than a tetris which of course is always useful :P |
| 01:49.29 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 01:49.29 | ckknight | no, RogueShadow |
| 01:49.41 | ckknight | RogueShadow: that's on a frame-by-frame basis |
| 01:49.49 | Funkeh` | java? |
| 01:50.09 | Kaelten | Funkeh`: yes 1.5 or higher |
| 01:50.22 | RogueShadow | ckknight: aight, I wasn't being specific enough. I re-positiongs things on my main, then I did it again on an alt, and it was better. And I had trouble copying it to my main. |
| 01:50.23 | Funkeh` | think i got the 2.0 or something |
| 01:50.52 | Funkeh` | 6.0 |
| 01:50.54 | NeoTron | Cryect: There's no cvar CombatDeathLogRange |
| 01:50.56 | ckknight | RogueShadow: there should be a way to copy profiles |
| 01:50.59 | NeoTron | got an error from recount |
| 01:51.02 | Funkeh` | or 1.6 them and their screwed numerical system |
| 01:51.22 | Antiarc | Cryect: I think so |
| 01:51.27 | Antiarc | He's got the same trollish demeanor |
| 01:52.07 | rubik | is there a way to make ktm hide by default when i log in? i swear i'm about to get rid of it for good just because of that (doesn't stay hidden.. ie. /ktm g h) |
| 01:52.16 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: i presume this is an early beta aye? |
| 01:52.31 | Antiarc | So, running totals so far: KTM: 23.2 sec, Omen: 304ms, Threat: 108ms |
| 01:52.32 | Antiarc | :x |
| 01:52.34 | Kaelten | yes this is the very beginning of beta |
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| 01:54.15 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: looks nice |
| 01:54.48 | Wobwork | I don't think Shadowed is 'cahootin' with Kenco |
| 01:55.00 | Hjalte | Kaelten, I know this is beta, but I can not get wau2 to work for me. The first time i opened the jnlp file, i got the display of it downloading the program. Then nothing happened, and i tried pressing the link on the webpage again. This time i saw the ace2 logo but after it had dissappeared, nothing happened, again. |
| 01:55.03 | Wobwork | mostly due to the fact that Kenco is not the most personable person =P |
| 01:55.15 | Kaelten | Hjalte: OS? |
| 01:55.19 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: it would be nice if i didn't have to spend half an hour downloading 'unkown' every time i open it up :p |
| 01:55.22 | Hjalte | Windows XP |
| 01:55.39 | Kaelten | Hjalte: hrm I had that happen on mac but not on windows |
| 01:55.43 | abyssichate | http://www.break.com/index/mom-tells-kid-no-more-warcraft.html |
| 01:55.49 | Kaelten | Funkeh`: you won't :P |
| 01:56.07 | Hjalte | Kaelten, when i look in the line with all the small icons in my lowerright corner, I also don't see the java icon anywhere. |
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| 01:56.26 | abyssichate | WAU2? Isn't 1.8.53 the latest? |
| 01:56.40 | ckknight | abyssichate: he just announced the beta of WAU 2 |
| 01:56.48 | abyssichate | I missed that, sorry |
| 01:57.23 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 01:57.42 | Dotted | Cryect Shadowed is just an anti-ace troll :p |
| 01:57.58 | NeoTron | so let me guess - TabletLib is used to make the popup dialog used by FuBar_Usage? :P |
| 01:58.05 | Hjalte | Kaelten, i do however, not run the very latest version of Java. (Because the newest version does not allow me to use Limewire) |
| 01:58.14 | Cryect | Is he? heh I just know he was quite upset about the idea that Omen/Threat might be faster on EJ forums :-p |
| 01:58.29 | Kaelten | Hjalte: what version are you running? |
| 01:58.52 | abyssichate | I actually experience the same as Hjalte, Ace2 logo appears, nothing happens |
| 01:59.07 | Kaelten | abyssichate: what version of java are you running? |
| 01:59.11 | Dotted | Cryect he hangs out in #dongle |
| 01:59.42 | cladhaire | i'm not sure what shadowed's issue is |
| 01:59.43 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 01:59.45 | abyssichate | java version "1.5.0_06" |
| 01:59.55 | abyssichate | Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05) |
| 02:00.31 | Hjalte | Kaelten, umm, where can i see what version i am using? I opened the java control panel just now, but I don't really see where to look. "In my add and remove software" i see 4 instances of J2SE Runtime Environment Update 5, newest being update 11. |
| 02:00.47 | Hjalte | Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_11-b03) |
| 02:01.34 | Hjalte | It seems my java has updated itself, because Limewire doesn't work anymore. Maybe I am using newest version now. |
| 02:02.00 | Roartindon | Cryect: I believe he is (shadowd), he logged on here and started abusing me about Aloft. |
| 02:02.18 | Funkeh` | http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp |
| 02:02.21 | Funkeh` | version 6 |
| 02:02.24 | Antiarc | Adirelle|Work: Is there some arcane procedure for activating KTM publish that I'm missing? |
| 02:02.26 | NightHawkTheSane | 1.5.x isn't the newest version of java currently, iirc. Unless you're using os x, java 6 (1.6.x) is the latest verseion |
| 02:02.29 | abyssichate | installing that right now |
| 02:02.56 | Hjalte | Kaelten, when i go and search for updates, it asks me if i want to install Java 6 update 1. So i'm not using that one, at least. |
| 02:02.57 | NeoTron | amn enhtooltip uses a lot of cpu |
| 02:03.47 | Cryect | Haha what does he dislike about Aloft? :-p |
| 02:04.06 | cladhaire | Cryect: He wrote the original nameplate mod, i suspect |
| 02:04.06 | Roartindon | Cryect: He's the author of NameplateMod.... I'm guessing he felt some competition :) |
| 02:04.19 | cladhaire | Roartindon: there was some nastiness when aloft came out |
| 02:04.25 | cladhaire | same as every ace "Replacement" mod |
| 02:04.47 | Roartindon | cladhaire: Well, I'm glad I didn't get to see most of that :) |
| 02:04.48 | abyssichate | Kaelten: updating my Java version worked |
| 02:04.55 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 02:05.01 | cladhaire | Roartindon: yeah, i'm just speculating |
| 02:05.18 | cladhaire | you were great through it all imo |
| 02:05.36 | Roartindon | Kaelten: I committed a couple of small changes I committed to OneBag yesterday to plug a huge memory leak happening on my client |
| 02:05.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ignorance has it's up sides? ;) |
| 02:05.41 | aen` | ckknight: good to go, it worked |
| 02:05.44 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: lol, probably :) |
| 02:05.46 | Cryect | Shrug I didn't come on here all pissed off when I heard Whiteboard was converted then to Doodle so seems strange to me :-p (though when I looked at how the code was made worst for the ace version of whiteboard I should have been) |
| 02:05.48 | shieldb | oh, heh |
| 02:05.50 | shieldb | uhh antiarc |
| 02:05.55 | shieldb | in the embeds.xml in omen |
| 02:06.10 | Roartindon | Kaelten: err.. imagine I wrote that sentence with proper grammar :) |
| 02:06.10 | shieldb | you have include instead of a script tag |
| 02:06.31 | abyssichate | Kaelten: does it update with or without externals? |
| 02:06.41 | Kaelten | without by default |
| 02:06.45 | Funkeh` | Cryect: i hardly call it a convert |
| 02:06.50 | shieldb | so people getting it off of files.wowace.com are going to get a missing lib error :P |
| 02:06.54 | Funkeh` | Cryect: more like a rename and an ace tag stuck to it |
| 02:06.59 | Cryect | haha |
| 02:07.12 | Kaelten | shieldb: nope |
| 02:07.18 | Kaelten | it sports dependency resolution |
| 02:07.30 | abyssichate | yeah, autodownload of dependencies is on by default |
| 02:07.35 | shieldb | right |
| 02:07.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40941 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add tagging capabilities. No options yet, but it basically clears the normal unit tooltip and replaces it with one made entirely of tags. |
| 02:07.42 | shieldb | however, in the embeds.xml in omen |
| 02:07.42 | Kaelten | its not perfect but it does pretty well |
| 02:07.54 | shieldb | it goes <include="libs\threat\" etc |
| 02:07.58 | ckknight | okay, CowTip is ready to be used :-P |
| 02:08.00 | Cryect | anyways now to play Quake Wars |
| 02:08.03 | Wobwork | >, |
| 02:08.04 | Wobwork | >< |
| 02:08.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: how does it determine what libs a given addon needs? |
| 02:08.09 | shieldb | instead of <script="libs\threat\" etc |
| 02:08.11 | abyssichate | Cryect: is it out yet? |
| 02:08.13 | shieldb | so it's never loaded by wow |
| 02:08.24 | Cryect | for normal subscribers it is |
| 02:08.25 | Roartindon | cd So |
| 02:08.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40942 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - whoops, remove a do return end |
| 02:08.50 | Cryect | couple more days for the rush of nonsubscribers |
| 02:08.59 | Funkeh` | shieldb: you use include for referencing to files that reference other files afaik |
| 02:09.18 | shieldb | if it's valid then my bad, but half our raid is complaining about the missing library error :P |
| 02:09.23 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: I think <Script File=...> is for .lua files only. <Include File=....> is for .xmls |
| 02:09.32 | Funkeh` | oh? |
| 02:09.34 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 02:09.37 | Funkeh` | well either way |
| 02:09.40 | Funkeh` | its right |
| 02:09.45 | Funkeh` | since threat is an xml file |
| 02:09.46 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Yeah. So explain to me how this profile thing is supposed to work. If I choose a different one is what I have set currently copied into the one I chose. Thus negating all work done on it. |
| 02:10.30 | ckknight | Profile -> Copy From |
| 02:10.35 | ckknight | it's relatively self-explanatory |
| 02:10.47 | Antiarc | shieldb: You can't <script ... a .xml file |
| 02:10.51 | Hjalte | Kaelten, as soon as i installed Java 6 update 1, wau2 worked. Nice job. |
| 02:10.57 | Antiarc | That tries to execute XML as Lua |
| 02:10.59 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 02:11.00 | Antiarc | Which doesn't work. |
| 02:11.32 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Relatively :) Yet, somehow I haven't mastered it yet. The only profiling system i'm quite familier with is bongos, and choosing another one doesn't erase it. And when you save something, it's explicit. |
| 02:11.48 | Kirkburn | Finally finished the KTM thread. |
| 02:11.56 | shieldb | well, that shoots down my first thought - any idea why people downloading omen off of files.wowace.com are getting a missing instance of threatlib, then? |
| 02:12.00 | ckknight | RogueShadow: well, you can go back to your other profile... |
| 02:12.06 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/wau2/updates/WowAceUpdater2.jnlp |
| 02:12.15 | Kaelten | again start of beta for those that are interested in helping |
| 02:13.04 | RogueShadow | ckknight: when I tried choosing several different profiles without using the copy thing, and they all ended up the same, and when I switched chars to go back to the one I made the profile on, it was reset to defaults, everything in the middle. |
| 02:13.14 | Kirkburn | Well, I can only really say "woah", and that I hope for everyone's sakes something improves. Btw, is there a page to point people to when you come across scary Ace fanatics? |
| 02:13.24 | ckknight | RogueShadow: cause you chose a bunch of different profiles. |
| 02:13.34 | Kaelten | Kirkburn: whats going on? |
| 02:13.51 | Kirkburn | Cause I really think it would help if there was a wiki page to calm people down and explain to them why they shouldn't go around saying "Ace is better than everything in the world ever" |
| 02:13.57 | Kirkburn | Nothing atm Kaelten |
| 02:14.14 | Kirkburn | Was reading the CG KLH thread you stopped responding to, sensibly |
| 02:14.15 | RogueShadow | ckknight: yeah, I managed to figure that out after that. I didn't know choosing them all would make them all the same. I thought that's what copy was for. |
| 02:14.43 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I will try again. Sorry to bother you too much, It is a great thing. after all. |
| 02:14.45 | ckknight | basically, all profiles start off with a blank slate |
| 02:14.48 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I will not be detered. |
| 02:14.54 | Kirkburn | It seems some people took the whole thing as an "Ace vs Other" debate, when it really wasn't |
| 02:15.10 | ckknight | I typically just play on the default profile, cause my stuff is relatively in the same place |
| 02:15.22 | ckknight | instead of having a distinct way for each char/class/etc |
| 02:15.48 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: I think that was because of the amount of ace people in the thread.. not to mention the mob that wasn't posting, but were rating every single post up or down based upon the ace-ness of the post |
| 02:16.13 | cladhaire | i dont think anyone ever thought it was the merits of ace versus others. |
| 02:16.29 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Actually I would rather whenever I move something, it's automatically the same everywhere else, but I must have done something to myself to make it not work that way. I think I understand what I did wrong now tho. |
| 02:16.33 | cladhaire | but if 10 white guys show up to confront the one black guy, it tends to look racial =) |
| 02:16.35 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, aye that was silly |
| 02:16.54 | kenlyric | no frenzy effect in babble-spell? |
| 02:17.04 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: eh, I'm sure there were people who honestly thought it was. I mean, they're probably obviously not very intelligent, or observant, but I'm sure they exist :P |
| 02:17.11 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40943 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: shave 3 seconds off blast nova |
| 02:17.13 | Kirkburn | I feel like posting a reply to explain why Ace people were posting (community, the fact that the community is involved in a 'competitor') but I can't really be bothered |
| 02:17.20 | *** join/#wowace Wobwork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:17.48 | Kirkburn | Anyway, is there any wiki pages that is something like "Ace and You"? |
| 02:18.11 | rubik | if you do post, can you call it "a competitor that kicks KTM's ass all over the place" or something? |
| 02:18.13 | ckknight | RogueShadow: so use the default profile! |
| 02:18.21 | rubik | (lol.. i'm j/k.. sorry) |
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| 02:18.49 | ckknight | RogueShadow: that's what it's there for |
| 02:18.51 | Kirkburn | Or "How I Learned to Stop Hollering And Love the Non-Ace World" |
| 02:19.03 | Kirkburn | (hmm, that wasn't as eloquent as I wanted) |
| 02:19.17 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:19.31 | rubik | for the record, i do not know or care what discussion you guys are talking about (i assume the curse-gaming KTM thread got ugly) |
| 02:19.37 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:19.38 | Kirkburn | rubik, er, somewhat |
| 02:19.39 | Wobwork | ugly =) |
| 02:21.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40944 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - instead of updating unit = "mouseover" when UnitExists("mouseover") == nil, explicitly don't update it (so that fading mouseover stuff works). |
| 02:21.26 | Kirkburn | Seriously, you need a What Ace Is and What Ace Is Not page. If one doesn't exist, someone make one, I might even start it myself |
| 02:21.41 | Tuller | ace is not an onion |
| 02:21.49 | Kirkburn | OOh, that can be #1 |
| 02:21.49 | JoshBorke | ACE |
| 02:21.54 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 02:21.57 | Wobwork | Ace is like a souffle? |
| 02:21.58 | Tuller | though there's probably a library to implement one :) |
| 02:22.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Ace isn't an onion? then why does it make me cry! |
| 02:22.29 | abyssichate | Kaelten: Does WAU2 delete the previous installations of addons before extracting the downloaded one? |
| 02:22.38 | ulic | Ace can be both the highest and lowest card in standard playing card deck. |
| 02:23.15 | Kaelten | abyssichate: not sure ask KarlThePagan |
| 02:23.34 | ckknight | lol, ulic |
| 02:23.50 | ckknight | Ace is not a big truck |
| 02:23.58 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_Ace |
| 02:24.01 | Kirkburn | Go add! |
| 02:24.03 | ulic | I've got poker on the brain, and my government said I can't play online for money :( |
| 02:24.09 | Dotted | ACE IS A SERIES OF TUBES |
| 02:24.25 | NightHawkTheSane | AceTubes. I think we need a new library for that. |
| 02:24.30 | ulic | hehe |
| 02:24.39 | ulic | sounds like a good rename for AceComm |
| 02:24.40 | KarlThePagan | abyssichate, currently WAU2 moves previous installations to .bak before unzipping the new one |
| 02:24.45 | Kirkburn | Basically I would suggest linking that page if it's filled out whenever you come across Ace stupidity |
| 02:24.55 | KarlThePagan | it deletes the .bak after extraction is successful with no errors |
| 02:24.57 | ckknight | AceTubes-2.0 |
| 02:25.03 | abyssichate | And I guess it commits the new one if it is ok, else it rolls back |
| 02:25.06 | abyssichate | okei |
| 02:25.44 | KarlThePagan | abyssichate, if there are user-made plugins unfrotunately I didn't yet account for that I suppose ;) |
| 02:25.48 | rubik | who's going to edit the http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_isnt_Ace page too? :P |
| 02:26.01 | Kirkburn | rubik, already on the same page, you fool! :) |
| 02:26.10 | rubik | heheh.. i kid, i kid |
| 02:26.12 | KarlThePagan | abyssichate, expect to see more fine-grained control over things like that in the next few weeks |
| 02:26.13 | abyssichate | No, no, I was just wondering since sometimes overwriting the new installation over the old one can cause troubles |
| 02:26.26 | NightHawkTheSane | *gasp* login queue?!? |
| 02:26.29 | KarlThePagan | yup! taken care of :) |
| 02:26.36 | Kirkburn | rubik, wait, everything that isn't Ace? Hmm, trees, that rabbit, my sister, the french .... |
| 02:26.42 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: What server? |
| 02:26.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: laughing skull |
| 02:29.05 | NightHawkTheSane | granted, the queue was like 18 people long, but still :P |
| 02:29.49 | abyssichate | KarlThePagan: does the "Automatically Refresh on Startup" option work? |
| 02:30.05 | KarlThePagan | abyssichate, not yet :O |
| 02:30.11 | abyssichate | ok ok :D |
| 02:30.14 | KarlThePagan | np |
| 02:30.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: holy onion soup batman, bmi's take all is like faster than superman on speed. |
| 02:30.21 | KarlThePagan | I should put upa Trak for WAU2 |
| 02:30.33 | abyssichate | erm, I don't get this |
| 02:31.00 | ckknight | how do you get an NPC's title, e.g. <Journeyman Engineer>? |
| 02:31.31 | sylvanaar | i dont know that you can - i heard someone talking about that before |
| 02:32.01 | Kirkburn | I've added some stuff to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_Ace |
| 02:32.06 | Kirkburn | I hope it's fair? |
| 02:32.33 | sylvanaar | but ill bet roatinon would know too bad he just left |
| 02:32.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: look at how other tooltip addons do it? |
| 02:32.57 | ckknight | nope |
| 02:33.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:33.27 | ckknight | TinyTip just colors stuff... |
| 02:33.46 | Funkeh` | ckknight: GiveMeYourFuckingName("mouseover") |
| 02:33.52 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:34.11 | Kirkburn | Gawd, a tooltip mod? |
| 02:34.14 | Morghus | The result would be a counter-addon "AvoidAssault" :P |
| 02:34.22 | Kirkburn | Weren't we takign bets on what was next a while back? |
| 02:34.36 | Funkeh` | can't think of much Kirkburn |
| 02:34.37 | Kirkburn | I can't remember what I suggested, I think it was a bar mod |
| 02:34.47 | Morghus | Kirkburn: Your wiki-entry there's pretty brilliant. |
| 02:35.13 | sylvanaar | ckknight its the same style as guild |
| 02:35.23 | ckknight | yes, style |
| 02:35.31 | Kirkburn | Thanks :) I can't fill in much on the "what it is" side, as my ignorance is vast, but the "what its not" is far easier from what I've seen |
| 02:35.31 | ckknight | but GetGuildInfo("target") does nothing |
| 02:35.51 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: the 'installed' section is blank for me, still being coded? |
| 02:36.00 | sylvanaar | ckknight i recall hearing it was not possible to retrieve |
| 02:37.00 | sylvanaar | ckknight but see if aloft can do it |
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| 02:38.04 | Morghus | That reminds me. Tooltip that doesn't block the sight to Aloft-plates, but rather places itself around it |
| 02:38.10 | Morghus | That'd be great :) |
| 02:38.19 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I've come to my senses now, you can take off the "That guys' an idiot" sign. Thanks. And keep up the good work. |
| 02:38.30 | Morghus | It'd be confusing as hell at first, yes :P |
| 02:39.46 | sylvanaar | ckknight try the pet api maybe |
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| 02:42.05 | ckknight | pet api? |
| 02:43.15 | Peoii | curiousity question, for addon messages, is there a channel they can communicate builtin to the game that would cover everyone in your visible range? (not same group/guild/etc) |
| 02:43.36 | pastamancer | no |
| 02:43.37 | ckknight | no |
| 02:43.42 | Peoii | damn |
| 02:44.03 | aen` | ckknight: healthbar.lua:258:index field 'healthBar' (nil) |
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| 02:46.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40945 10PitBull/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: PitBull_HealthBar - bugfix |
| 02:46.39 | ckknight | aen`: ;-) |
| 02:47.18 | Kirkburn | Right, another major update to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_Ace |
| 02:48.52 | pastamancer | can I ninja-edit the wiki to add "Ace is like racing stripes... it makes WoW go faster" ? |
| 02:49.47 | Kirkburn | If you want to destroy everything I'm working towards, sure ;) |
| 02:51.11 | pastamancer | I think I can live with that :p |
| 02:53.05 | Wobwork | Kirkburn: "even them" should be "even then" |
| 02:53.09 | Wobwork | last line |
| 02:53.18 | Wixi | whats the /script command to increase camera distance? |
| 02:53.19 | Kirkburn | Done, ta |
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| 02:59.49 | Kirkburn | Btw, I posted on http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ ... I hope what I said is fair and not inflammatory. |
| 03:01.40 | Thorgard | omg Kirkburn, what have you done!? Why must you try and put out the flames with gasoline!? zomg omg *dies* |
| 03:01.48 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 03:03.24 | Keias | It really seems like Kenco takes even constructive criticism to heart |
| 03:04.23 | Funkeh` | christ have you not dropped the ktm kenco issue yet |
| 03:04.28 | Funkeh` | you are beating it to death |
| 03:04.30 | durcyn | i don't see why anyone would want to troll that fucking thread anyway |
| 03:04.35 | durcyn | it serves no purpose other than to annoy |
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| 03:05.04 | Funkeh` | its over 2 weeks now just let it die |
| 03:05.42 | Kirkburn | Funkeh`, kinda new to me, and I wasn't trolling it |
| 03:05.51 | Kirkburn | And KTH won't die, and neither will the thread. |
| 03:06.10 | Kirkburn | It's better to have clarity, than to leave a fog of misinformation hanging over it. |
| 03:07.14 | Kirkburn | Besides, it got Fisker- to touch me, and it spurred me into creating that myths page |
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| 03:14.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40946 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - [Guild] will now work on NPCs to show their title, e.g. <Royal Apothecary Society> |
| 03:14.43 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40947 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
| 03:16.01 | ckknight | Kirkburn: good page |
| 03:16.46 | Kirkburn | Thanks, I hope it can be used to help :) |
| 03:18.56 | ckknight | Kirkburn: typically I refer to wowace as the community and Ace2 as the project itself |
| 03:18.58 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 03:19.11 | NimbleRabit | ./sigh |
| 03:19.15 | NimbleRabit | have to set up pitbull again |
| 03:20.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40948 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua icon.tga): |
| 03:20.16 | CIA-22 | CowTip - make the icon round instead of square |
| 03:20.16 | CIA-22 | - some bugfixes |
| 03:20.37 | NeoTron | aha |
| 03:20.46 | NeoTron | so one of the big actual cpu users is Ash_Core, i.e DoTimer |
| 03:20.58 | NeoTron | other than ace/tabletlib/fubar_usage it's the top one |
| 03:21.13 | NeoTron | tabletlib is insane cpu use when you view fubar_usage though. I go down to like 2 FPS :P |
| 03:21.27 | ckknight | fubar_usage? |
| 03:21.31 | ckknight | I use FuBar_Debug |
| 03:21.41 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 03:21.58 | NeoTron | it's just a bit tooltip with a toplist |
| 03:22.02 | NeoTron | never checked fubar_debug |
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| 03:22.47 | NeoTron | still DoTimer upgrade might have coincided with my sudden drop in performance |
| 03:22.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40949 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - potential bugfix |
| 03:22.52 | Fisker- | why would one need to change the knockback aggro reduction on void reaver? |
| 03:23.06 | NeoTron | because it's not exactly certain what it is? |
| 03:23.20 | Fisker- | How can you know what it is? :O |
| 03:23.45 | NeoTron | experiment by changing the knockback aggro reduction parameter till it looks correct? :) |
| 03:23.58 | Fisker- | oh |
| 03:24.22 | NeoTron | honestly I'm not sure how ppl manage to experiment their way to semi-accurate numbers.. impresses me :P |
| 03:25.33 | NeoTron | see if I can run some profiling on Ash_Core... |
| 03:25.43 | NightHawkTheSane | well you can sort of make guesses based on what agro numbers you do have |
| 03:26.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, if tank has x threa, dps has y threat, tank take a knockback, but holds agro, you can figure out what range the tank's threat had to have been in to maintain agro |
| 03:27.07 | NightHawkTheSane | that, at the least, narrows it down to a range of values for threat reduction. If you can do that among even a handful of people, you can probably narrow it down to with 5% |
| 03:27.39 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i just killed an ogre, has it targeted, then tab targeted to its totem, and the target frame didn't update |
| 03:28.26 | ckknight | Funkeh`: hrm... |
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| 03:29.47 | chrisp_- | Hi, anyone here use WowBench? |
| 03:30.07 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40950 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: |
| 03:30.07 | CIA-22 | Cartographer: |
| 03:30.07 | CIA-22 | -Waypoints : koKR typo fix |
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| 03:32.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40951 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add options so that you can actually edit what the tooltip says. |
| 03:34.25 | Kirkburn | ckknight, I expanded http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_Ace ...there may be some additions you're uneasy about. I wish for the page to be a balanced, unbiased commentary on Ace, rather than a list of pro or anti-Ace benefits. |
| 03:35.00 | Kirkburn | I hope that I've managed it :) (I consulted some people outside of the channel for their view) |
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| 03:35.25 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40952 10Cartographer/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 03:35.25 | CIA-22 | Cartographer: |
| 03:35.25 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.07 | NeoTron | so wht can I use instead of DoTimer that doesn't suck? :-( |
| 03:36.19 | NeoTron | Seems like DoTimer is written in a way that might be suitable in C++ with inline methods |
| 03:36.55 | ckknight | Kirkburn: looks good to me. |
| 03:37.04 | Kirkburn | Okay, cool |
| 03:37.44 | Peoii | Anyone here happen to know LiSP? |
| 03:38.29 | Kalman| | Cryect: Cosmetic issue w/ Recount; place a checkmark next to the currently enabled mode in the Total/Current/Last dropdown. |
| 03:38.41 | Lyfe | Peoii: very little, but kinda. |
| 03:39.03 | Lyfe | there really isn't all that much to lisp itself, soo.. |
| 03:39.12 | Peoii | Lyfe: I'm working on my first large scale project in it... dear god what a strnage language concept. |
| 03:39.13 | ckknight | Peoii: somewhat |
| 03:39.23 | Lyfe | quite. |
| 03:39.28 | NightHawkTheSane | lisp is awesome. i really wish i knew it better. |
| 03:39.43 | Lyfe | lisp is very very neat. but i can't justify actually doing anything in it. |
| 03:39.56 | Lyfe | including "hello world" :) |
| 03:40.37 | Peoii | We're writing a piece of software to teach itself how to sort any given data set more efficiently, based on only 2 pieces of input... 1) The dataset itself, and 2) The outcome order requested. |
| 03:41.02 | Peoii | it's a silly project, but I'm just excited to actually work with the language. |
| 03:41.45 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not all that silly |
| 03:43.32 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: ok, I guess I should say "it's not my cup of tea"... It's just not what I like programming, so hence it's silly =) |
| 03:43.40 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough |
| 03:43.56 | Peoii | But hey, a pay check is a pay check. |
| 03:44.08 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 03:44.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40953 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: |
| 03:44.10 | CIA-22 | CowTip - add Health/Mana/XP to tooltip |
| 03:44.10 | CIA-22 | - bugfixes |
| 03:44.43 | Peoii | One of these days I'm gonna learn LUA, and actually write an addon concept in my head... but yea, not today. :/ |
| 03:44.44 | krka | Peoii: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 03:45.03 | Peoii | krka: Qua? |
| 03:45.13 | Peoii | oh, my bad. |
| 03:45.32 | Kirkburn | zomg, WAU 1.9? |
| 03:45.38 | Lyfe | Lua's not that difficult of a language |
| 03:45.46 | Kirkburn | And there was me thinking we'd get to 1.8.99 first |
| 03:45.59 | Lyfe | .99 should only come after .98 :) |
| 03:46.05 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, I am soooo disappointed |
| 03:46.07 | Lyfe | and should be followed by .100 :) |
| 03:46.15 | Kirkburn | Damn, he has the right of it |
| 03:50.09 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40954 10Expo/modules/ (4 files): Expo: Small reduction in memory growth (~100 bytes/sec) when having the full expo tooltip open |
| 03:51.57 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Kalman| wrote some kind of DOT timer |
| 03:52.00 | Antiarc | DotDotDot I think |
| 03:52.07 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 03:52.14 | Wobwork | after Clad's discussion? =) |
| 03:53.00 | Kalman| | Before! |
| 03:53.14 | Kalman| | I swear, it was uploaded before. I had a reason to think dot dot dot might refer to something specific. :p |
| 03:53.27 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:53.32 | Kalman| | Neotron: You can try it. It's nowhere near as fancy as DoTimer. |
| 03:53.50 | Thorgard | Moar dots. |
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| 03:54.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40955 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add Threat-1.0 support |
| 03:54.51 | Cryect | Curious can anyone help me determine my FPS in this screenshot http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5605/whatsmyfpspo0.jpg |
| 03:55.08 | Wobwork | 1fps |
| 03:55.10 | Kalman| | Hahahha. |
| 03:55.22 | Kalman| | The horror... the horror. |
| 03:56.01 | Cryect | Without like any of those was getting like 75 FPS so not bad |
| 03:57.42 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40956 10Recount/ (GUI_Realtime.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Adds new slash command "/recount fps" which pops up a realtime window with the FPS |
| 03:58.23 | Thorgard | Rut roh. |
| 03:58.33 | Thorgard | WoW just froze when I opened my mailbox. |
| 04:02.05 | ckknight | rut roh? |
| 04:02.07 | Thorgard | hyperChipmunk, BulkMail's making my WoW freeze when I open my mailbox. :o |
| 04:02.55 | Hjalte | cryect, can Recount tell me, how long my shackle usually lasts, for non-elite and elite mobs? |
| 04:02.55 | Kirkburn | "rut roh" = Scooby Doo |
| 04:03.14 | Thorgard | Okay, it's not a hard freeze.. it makes WoW freeze for about 50 seconds.. ;P |
| 04:04.29 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40957 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Adds console command "/recount lag" for latency in a realtime window |
| 04:04.36 | Thorgard | 'Course, I was opening with 50 new mails. |
| 04:04.44 | Wobwork | Did someone mail you fish? |
| 04:05.00 | Wobwork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112411417&sid=1 |
| 04:05.17 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, does /recount lag -generate- latency? :p |
| 04:06.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: what the crap |
| 04:06.17 | NeoTron | so I uninstalled DoTimer.. we'll see if that helps |
| 04:06.32 | Thorgard | Wobwork, no. ;P |
| 04:06.50 | NeoTron | Kalman|: I'm currently destro spec.. so not a huge deal L:P |
| 04:07.01 | Cryect | NightHawkTheSane: if it did that would be scary :-p |
| 04:07.30 | Kalman| | NeoTron: Hey, more people using it = more testing. :) One of these days I'll start writing grouping code for multiple mobs. |
| 04:07.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it seems like any command named "lag" should do that ;) |
| 04:09.04 | Gokie | ckknight: are the import/export layout options currently disabled? |
| 04:14.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, so, I learned something tonight. |
| 04:14.37 | ZealotOnAStick | People in the raid having like 10 different revisions of Threat/Omen on Void Reaver = not so useful. |
| 04:14.49 | NightHawkTheSane | That the sun is a mass of incandescent gas? |
| 04:15.14 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 04:15.15 | Antiarc | Indeed |
| 04:15.22 | NightHawkTheSane | A giant nuclear furnace! |
| 04:15.42 | NightHawkTheSane | s/giant/gigantic/ |
| 04:16.46 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, Kalman|, thanks for reminding me. |
| 04:17.05 | ZealotOnAStick | DoTimer 2.3.9 or 3.2.9 or whatever the latest version is, is on crack. Need to revert. |
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| 04:19.16 | NimbleRabit | woooooo |
| 04:19.22 | NimbleRabit | threat reset option is in |
| 04:19.27 | NimbleRabit | totally getting my guild to use this now |
| 04:20.20 | ckknight | Gokie: no |
| 04:21.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40958 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add Target, Guild rank, Status, Happiness |
| 04:22.29 | Killmore | what is CowTip ? |
| 04:22.32 | Killmore | new ? |
| 04:22.40 | durcyn | ckk's tooltip addon |
| 04:23.25 | Funkeh` | i tried dotimer one day |
| 04:23.25 | Funkeh` | hated it |
| 04:23.28 | Funkeh` | <3 my quartz |
| 04:23.39 | Funkeh` | dotimer does too much for me |
| 04:24.12 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40959 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Finally fixes that threat bug involving not finding the name (seems .GlobalTarget wasn't initialized when I tried to use it) |
| 04:24.22 | Kirkburn | Killmore, "Moo. It'll graze your pasture" |
| 04:24.35 | ckknight | all CowTip does right now is change what the tooltip says when you hover over units |
| 04:25.00 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40960 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Minor change >_> |
| 04:25.04 | Kirkburn | You need to do similar tag lines for Fubar and Cart |
| 04:25.16 | Kirkburn | Though perhaps the FuBar one would be rather negative :/ |
| 04:25.26 | Funkeh` | ckknight: what are your plans on it? |
| 04:25.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight: keep it minimal or grow it big? |
| 04:25.35 | Kirkburn | "FuBar. It'll bugger up your computer" |
| 04:25.37 | ckknight | Funkeh`: dunno, I completed all of em already |
| 04:25.46 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 04:25.52 | ckknight | I'll probably add a few more problems |
| 04:25.55 | ckknight | err |
| 04:25.56 | ckknight | features |
| 04:26.05 | ckknight | such as anchor to curse |
| 04:26.07 | ckknight | cursor* |
| 04:26.16 | Kirkburn | "Cartographer. It'll map your wooooorrllllld!" |
| 04:26.37 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40961 10Cartographer_Vendors/import.lua: |
| 04:26.37 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 04:26.37 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 04:28.36 | NimbleRabit | why does threatoktm tell me it's inactive |
| 04:28.53 | Tain | Cartographer needs a Google Street View type feature. Let people zoom in and see panoramic screenshots of each area. |
| 04:28.53 | Funkeh` | cuz it sux |
| 04:29.12 | Kalman| | "[00:25] <ckknight> I'll probably add a few more problems" |
| 04:29.13 | Kalman| | So true. |
| 04:29.23 | ckknight | I corrected myself |
| 04:29.29 | Kirkburn | iirc, all it does now is activate the inbuilt ThreattoKTM bit in Threatlib? |
| 04:29.35 | Kalman| | I know. But the original is so good. |
| 04:29.58 | Gokie | ckknight: hrm... for some reason the option to export/remove/send in-game are grayed out and unavailable in my PitBull... only import seems to be available. |
| 04:30.05 | Kirkburn | if it makes a wonderfully minimal and sexy tooltip, I might consider it |
| 04:30.16 | Kirkburn | *if it can make |
| 04:30.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: doesn't mean its not true too :P |
| 04:30.19 | ckknight | Gokie: cause you don't have any custom layouts saved. |
| 04:30.20 | NimbleRabit | tinytip seems perfect for me |
| 04:30.33 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: *shrug* that's fine |
| 04:30.55 | ckknight | I just wanted something tag-based with the text customizeable |
| 04:31.19 | ckknight | and, uh, with cleaner code |
| 04:31.24 | Kirkburn | gl with it, always cool to see something new |
| 04:31.48 | NimbleRabit | ckknight: yeah that's cool |
| 04:32.17 | NimbleRabit | just seems like there could be other things to make instead of redoing something that works really really well |
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| 04:32.22 | ckknight | and it's not because it's not ace or anything like that |
| 04:32.26 | Kirkburn | Btw, who's maintaining TinyTip atm? |
| 04:32.31 | ckknight | Thrae, I belive |
| 04:32.33 | ckknight | believe* |
| 04:32.39 | Gokie | ckknight: right... but that's what I'm trying to do, to create a custom layout. Do I have to "create" it outside of the game first, then have PitBull save to it? |
| 04:32.52 | ckknight | Gokie: save a layout. |
| 04:32.58 | ckknight | you haven't saved it yet. |
| 04:34.47 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: I don't consider it to work "really really well" |
| 04:35.32 | Gokie | OK, I think the way I'm expressing things is making us go in circles lol... what I want to do is to have a way to save the layout that I'm currently using... I was under the impression that this is done via the export layout command, but there's a seperate way to save a layout? |
| 04:35.37 | Wobwork | any scottish people here? |
| 04:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn: yeah, it's thraes, he's moved most/all of it to his googlecode project though |
| 04:35.53 | ckknight | Gokie: you were wrong |
| 04:35.59 | ckknight | Gokie: ctrl-right-click on a frame |
| 04:36.07 | ckknight | -> Other -> Layouts -> Save |
| 04:36.30 | ckknight | Wobwork: by blood or by birth? |
| 04:36.42 | Gokie | oh... layouts are specific to each frame |
| 04:36.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:36.59 | Wobwork | well someone who's lived in scotland would be good =) |
| 04:37.02 | Gokie | I misunderstood then, I thought it was the "overall" PitBull settings |
| 04:38.09 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r40962 10OneBank/locals.lua: |
| 04:38.09 | CIA-22 | OneBank : |
| 04:38.09 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:38.19 | ckknight | Gokie: nope. |
| 04:38.38 | ckknight | Wobwork: no, then, but I had 3 great-grandparents who did ;-) |
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| 04:42.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: out of curiosity, might i ask why? |
| 04:43.21 | Wobwork | would the question "Do you call it East Lothian, or Haddingtonshire?" mean anything to you? |
| 04:43.33 | theoddone33 | pitbull estimated heals don't work on people who are significantly lower level than you? |
| 04:45.01 | theoddone33 | maybe it's picking a lower rank of the spell or something |
| 04:46.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40963 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add a scale option |
| 04:46.34 | CIA-22 | 03jayrox * r40964 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 04:46.34 | CIA-22 | FuBar_VampwatchFu: Organized menu quite a bit better. Added the ability to |
| 04:46.34 | CIA-22 | enable/disable monitoring of stats. Added "Avg. Per Fight" that shows the |
| 04:46.34 | CIA-22 | average amount gained on a per fight basis. Note: German Translations need to be |
| 04:46.34 | CIA-22 | updated. |
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| 04:49.59 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn its the last version since there is WAU2 so 1.9, plus there is only one thing i am still waiting to add |
| 04:50.13 | Kirkburn | zomg, what's that? |
| 04:50.48 | Killmore | TabletLib is taking 19% of cpu in shattrah, idle.. normal ? |
| 04:50.50 | sylvanaar | as soon as they start putting the url that you downloaded the zip from in the zip itself |
| 04:51.35 | sylvanaar | all the updaters will interoperate if they suppport that |
| 04:51.43 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r40965 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Capacitus.lua: LittleWigs: TK/Capacitus- Changed Reflective Shield triggers from "begins to cast..." to "gains...", as the begins to cast don't seem to appear consistently |
| 04:51.58 | Wobwork | Killmore: Are you using performanceFu? |
| 04:52.02 | Killmore | yes |
| 04:52.16 | Wobwork | Then performanceFu is using tabletlib to do your reporting |
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| 04:52.22 | Wobwork | and so will consume cpu |
| 04:52.27 | Killmore | Wobwork: ok good :P |
| 04:52.41 | Killmore | first time I tried profiling since un-embeds :P |
| 04:53.26 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40966 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: BlackTemple: add Mother Shahraz mod |
| 04:55.32 | xyu | Hey Does anyone of you use WindfuryFU? |
| 04:55.35 | xyu | do* |
| 04:58.56 | Antiarc | ckknight: they're asking for you in gog |
| 04:59.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40967 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add option to change how the border looks. Uses SharedMedia-1.0. |
| 04:59.45 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40968 10FuBar/ (. FuBar.toc embeds.xml): FuBar: use embeds.xml |
| 05:00.20 | NightHawkTheSane | gog? |
| 05:00.54 | Funkeh` | go out gays |
| 05:02.49 | Killmore | Antiarc: your donation link doesnt work :P |
| 05:02.54 | ckknight | Antiarc: yea, what does gog stand for? |
| 05:03.31 | Antiarc | Killmore: Heh, I was trying something out |
| 05:03.38 | Antiarc | gog = guild of guilds. Old, stupid name that's stuck :P |
| 05:03.42 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40969 10Grid/ (Grid.toc embeds.xml): Grid: use embeds.xml |
| 05:06.49 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40970 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.toc embeds.xml): SimpleCombatLog: use embeds.xml |
| 05:07.20 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40971 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: |
| 05:07.20 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 05:07.20 | CIA-22 | - Bar Interface bug fixes and speed improvements |
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| 05:09.57 | art3mis | wheeeeeeee |
| 05:10.02 | art3mis | so found a bug in aguf |
| 05:10.25 | art3mis | appearantly if you alt-f4 out of the game and then come back in while in a raid with pally buffs on ya it locks |
| 05:10.45 | art3mis | disable it comeback in then do an ingame reload and yer fine |
| 05:11.00 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40972 10Transcriptor/ (Transcriptor.toc embeds.xml): Transcriptor: use embeds.xml |
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| 05:12.36 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40973 10Omen/ (Omen.lua Omen.toc OmenDisplay.lua): |
| 05:12.36 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 05:12.36 | CIA-22 | - Fixed "jumpy bars" problem, I think |
| 05:12.36 | CIA-22 | - Fixed donation email |
| 05:13.31 | ckknight | art3mis: does that happen with PitBull? |
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| 05:14.45 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40974 10BanzaiAlert/ (. BanzaiAlert.toc embeds.xml): BanzaiAlert: use embeds.xml |
| 05:15.09 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: is the "pally buffs" part of it required? |
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| 05:16.28 | _art3mis | dunno |
| 05:16.33 | _art3mis | ill recheck it tomorrow night and make sure |
| 05:17.02 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40975 10Expo/Expo.lua: Expo: Another tiny memory plug |
| 05:17.02 | NightHawkTheSane | it just seems odd that that'd be required. :P |
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| 05:18.46 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40976 10Capping/ (Capping.toc embeds.xml): Capping: use embeds.xml |
| 05:20.15 | xyu | anyone know of a mod that will track windfury damage for warriors as well? |
| 05:20.23 | xyu | WindfuryFU just tracks shamans it seems :( |
| 05:20.32 | NightHawkTheSane | So, probably an old/stupid question, but what's the advantage of using embeds.xml over listing them in the .toc? |
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| 05:21.18 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: theres no advantage, i just think commiting stuff makes me look sexy |
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| 05:21.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: well, it does, obviously. |
| 05:21.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, after that last commit, i totally want you. |
| 05:21.47 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 05:21.53 | art3mis | to be fair though he wanted you before the commit |
| 05:22.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ... shush! |
| 05:22.02 | art3mis | night is a whore |
| 05:22.06 | art3mis | err slut |
| 05:22.09 | art3mis | he's free! |
| 05:22.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not free! |
| 05:22.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just really cheap. |
| 05:22.29 | art3mis | piece of gum cheap ;P |
| 05:22.43 | NightHawkTheSane | no, not a piece of gum. But maybe a meal at wendy's cheap |
| 05:22.48 | art3mis | i just had the most enjoyable night raiding iv had since i started this game |
| 05:22.51 | Funkeh` | theres no advantage unless the user is using WAU, if they are using standalone libraries embeds.xml will be replaced with an exmpty one, resulting in no FrameXML errors and speeding up loading, if the user is using LoD modules.xml will be replaced with an empty one |
| 05:23.07 | art3mis | it was kind of creepy just how laid back these people were |
| 05:23.09 | xyu | art3mis: raiding and enjoyment in the same sentence? |
| 05:23.12 | xyu | whwhwhwhawaa? |
| 05:23.13 | art3mis | i know! |
| 05:23.29 | art3mis | no screaming no yelling no calling names or blaming each other |
| 05:23.49 | art3mis | course we tore through gruul in 45 mins so that put us all in a good mood ;) |
| 05:23.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: Ah. I see. Hmm.... I bet I can work recognizing/replacing those files into my update script |
| 05:24.01 | xyu | that's how it's done! |
| 05:24.04 | art3mis | which isnt bad since the guild i just joined has only beat him once before |
| 05:24.19 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: damn, i need to join a guild like that :P |
| 05:24.24 | art3mis | i tried to explain it was because i brought egbert along but i dont think they bought it |
| 05:24.31 | xyu | I was burmed out of raiding for so long that i've just now got back into it and i got put on some 3rd string Karazhan group. |
| 05:24.32 | art3mis | oh and the other wierd thing |
| 05:24.39 | xyu | who spent the first 2 hours reclearing attumen trash |
| 05:24.41 | xyu | :D |
| 05:24.43 | art3mis | i asked whats the deal on charging guildies for crafting n stuff |
| 05:24.54 | art3mis | and their rule is no charging at all for anything |
| 05:25.00 | art3mis | another surprise |
| 05:25.10 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: well you will need some detection methods ofc to see if the user is using externals and if he is unpacking to know whether to replace, but when you do just replae it with an xml file with a header <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/u |
| 05:25.12 | Wobwork | not even for mats? |
| 05:25.12 | Funkeh` | i/ ..\FrameXML\UI.xsd"></Ui> |
| 05:25.20 | art3mis | Wobwork: if they've got em they make it |
| 05:25.25 | art3mis | no cost involved |
| 05:25.28 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:25.30 | Wobwork | I'd do that |
| 05:25.32 | xyu | nice, are you horde? :D |
| 05:25.33 | art3mis | even for passing items needed around |
| 05:25.37 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:25.40 | art3mis | its spooky |
| 05:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: Well, its a cli script, so it's just a matter of detecting a command line option :P |
| 05:26.04 | Wobwork | Cause if the mats are supplied by guildies/bank it's really no effort to make the stuff |
| 05:26.13 | art3mis | Wobwork: nods exactly |
| 05:26.24 | art3mis | if the mats exist and someone needs it as an upgrade they make it |
| 05:26.28 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: yeah, thats more or less how I thought most guilds worked. Charging for crafting is absurd. :P |
| 05:26.40 | art3mis | was wierd to find a guild of more than 3 people that thought the same way i did towards being a guild |
| 05:26.41 | Wobwork | It's what you do for complete strangers =) |
| 05:26.51 | Wobwork | charge through the nose |
| 05:26.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: exactly |
| 05:26.59 | art3mis | heh yup |
| 05:27.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: thanks for the info, though. :) |
| 05:27.07 | art3mis | well actually i do shit for free if they supply |
| 05:27.15 | art3mis | even high end rares |
| 05:27.17 | Wobwork | I do stuff for tips |
| 05:27.24 | art3mis | i dont much care if they tip |
| 05:27.35 | art3mis | mostly because when i ened something i get the same deal back |
| 05:27.36 | Wobwork | most people do, anyway |
| 05:27.41 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: np |
| 05:27.49 | art3mis | theres a rogue i have to open boxes for me |
| 05:27.59 | art3mis | cuz i love opening but dont care whats inside |
| 05:28.05 | Wobwork | oh lockboxes are free |
| 05:28.11 | art3mis | its like xmas to me so i always give him whatever i find inside it |
| 05:28.19 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:28.22 | art3mis | thers a few that like tips or actually charge |
| 05:28.25 | Wobwork | Can I unlock your boxes? =) |
| 05:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ill unlock YOUR box! *wink wink, nudge nudge* |
| 05:28.51 | art3mis | now i just need to find someone to give me 12 primal waters and 8 more shadow ;P |
| 05:29.05 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40977 10ClosetGnome/ (. ClosetGnome.toc embeds.xml): ClosetGnome: use embeds.xml |
| 05:29.07 | art3mis | laugh nighthawk thats what i was thinking but i left it alone ;P |
| 05:29.30 | art3mis | wasnt itemrack an ace2 mod? |
| 05:29.35 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Ping |
| 05:29.36 | Funkeh` | no |
| 05:29.36 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: nope, never. |
| 05:29.39 | art3mis | wierd |
| 05:29.43 | art3mis | always assumed it was |
| 05:29.45 | NightHawkTheSane | I think Gello actually hates ace |
| 05:30.00 | Funkeh` | everyone hates ace, it sucks |
| 05:30.05 | art3mis | and violation is the new groovy damage meter? |
| 05:30.19 | art3mis | oh i switched the whole guild to omen+threatlib tonight too |
| 05:30.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I hate ace because it sucks, it takes away my business! Er.. I mean.. |
| 05:30.34 | art3mis | all i had to say was "uses about 40% less cpu than ktm" |
| 05:30.37 | art3mis | and poof |
| 05:30.52 | ckknight | art3mis: you really shouldn't lie to your guild like that. |
| 05:30.55 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:30.56 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: yeah violation's nifty. Though Assessment and Recount are both nice as well |
| 05:30.59 | art3mis | i really dislike ktm |
| 05:31.05 | art3mis | like really really |
| 05:31.07 | ckknight | art3mis: why not tell the truth though? |
| 05:31.09 | ckknight | 90% |
| 05:31.13 | art3mis | laugh |
| 05:31.13 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 05:31.25 | art3mis | cuz thats unbelievable ;P |
| 05:31.25 | NightHawkTheSane | zing. |
| 05:31.45 | art3mis | plus i explained that they shopuld switch away from ctraid and get ora or something since wau rocks |
| 05:31.48 | Antiarc | art3mis: I did some raid testing tonight |
| 05:31.51 | Jaxon | A guild mate of mine who doesn't code wasn't sure what another guildmate and me were talking about |
| 05:31.52 | art3mis | oh? |
| 05:31.55 | Jaxon | So we started spamming him with |
| 05:31.56 | Jaxon | ARE YOU A HUNTER |
| 05:31.58 | Jaxon | ARE YOU A HUNTER |
| 05:32.01 | art3mis | oh nice job btw i was watching it totally impressed |
| 05:32.02 | Funkeh` | tbh you could make a mod 'imastealyourpassword' and say its a threat meter and sues less cpu than ktm and peole will install it |
| 05:32.08 | Antiarc | And basically, it turns out that Threat/Omen uses less than 1% of KTM's CPU if your session time is long enough :P |
| 05:32.10 | Funkeh` | uses* |
| 05:32.17 | art3mis | holy christ |
| 05:32.18 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc |
| 05:32.23 | art3mis | i love how accurate it reads too |
| 05:32.26 | ckknight | I don't doubt it |
| 05:32.29 | art3mis | ya kow what i would liek though |
| 05:32.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: scarily, I actually can see that |
| 05:32.39 | Funkeh` | scrolling porn |
| 05:32.42 | art3mis | if it would be possible to fade the clear for like 2 seconds or something |
| 05:32.46 | Funkeh` | when you are top threat |
| 05:32.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh.. SCP, scrolling combat porn! |
| 05:32.49 | Cervanis | what version is omen up to currently? |
| 05:32.57 | art3mis | or have a last 5 fights final list |
| 05:33.01 | Funkeh` | big pornos flashing and YOU ARE GOING TO DIE |
| 05:33.16 | Antiarc | 40973 is the latest |
| 05:33.24 | art3mis | just cuz i like looking at the "at death" threat |
| 05:33.36 | art3mis | and it clears so bloody fast |
| 05:34.05 | art3mis | ckknight: i dont think that pit has that wierd raid bug |
| 05:34.14 | Antiarc | art3mis: It'd be trivial to write a mod to do threat history |
| 05:34.18 | Antiarc | But I don't think that's in Omen's scope |
| 05:34.21 | art3mis | mostly because of how the auras are setup in comparisson |
| 05:34.30 | art3mis | Antiarc: it could be |
| 05:34.44 | art3mis | for those die hards that wanna see what went wrong on a wipe |
| 05:34.54 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40978 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua: |
| 05:34.54 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:34.54 | CIA-22 | -Vendor:koKR Update |
| 05:34.56 | art3mis | or something |
| 05:35.06 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, I agree it's a bit out of scope for Omen. It would be nice to see, though |
| 05:35.22 | art3mis | you could call it Damien |
| 05:35.25 | art3mis | Omen 2 ;P |
| 05:35.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Damien? |
| 05:35.43 | NightHawkTheSane | is that from good omens? |
| 05:35.45 | art3mis | that was the name of the kid from omen ;P |
| 05:35.50 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40979 10ErrorMonster/ (. ErrorMonster.toc embeds.xml): ErrorMonster: use embeds.xml |
| 05:35.56 | art3mis | and when omen 2 came out it was subtitled as Damien |
| 05:35.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 05:36.07 | Cervanis | Antiarc, does omen sync with ktm? |
| 05:36.09 | art3mis | Omen+Damien ;P |
| 05:36.13 | art3mis | yup it does |
| 05:36.18 | art3mis | and very nicely i must say |
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| 05:36.20 | rpowers | Antiarc, i hate to do support calls to developers, but my Aggro Gain bar disappeared when I did an update sometime a week ago, and the option doesn't seem to bring it back. Do you know why this might be and should I just keep updating and hoping it goes away? |
| 05:36.23 | rpowers | err... comes back |
| 05:36.27 | Cervanis | hrm.. i might have to switch |
| 05:36.44 | art3mis | you should swich just because its better |
| 05:36.55 | art3mis | your guildies wont even notice |
| 05:37.04 | Andune | omen+ttk = <3 |
| 05:37.05 | art3mis | since it fakes pretty good ;P |
| 05:37.09 | Cervanis | well if it syncs, i will ;) |
| 05:37.11 | NightHawkTheSane | And if they do, tell them to sod off and switch as well |
| 05:37.11 | art3mis | ttk? |
| 05:37.21 | Andune | threatToKTM |
| 05:37.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ThreatToKTM, although I think it is (or will be soon) integrated into threat |
| 05:37.46 | Andune | well as long as I still get my little FuBar options for it. :) |
| 05:37.47 | art3mis | heh ive pervert most of my guilds to ace2 stuff |
| 05:37.48 | Cervanis | i knew at one point that wasnt useable |
| 05:37.59 | art3mis | since they all have lame raid reqs like ctraid and ktm when i jopin |
| 05:38.02 | art3mis | join |
| 05:38.13 | art3mis | ive converted at least 4 guilds to ora |
| 05:38.19 | Cervanis | yeah... i've gotten people off of ct |
| 05:38.21 | art3mis | and this will be 5th |
| 05:38.26 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40980 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Extras/BigWigs.lua): |
| 05:38.26 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 05:38.26 | CIA-22 | - BigWigs recording module disabled by default |
| 05:38.26 | CIA-22 | - Changed wording for resets |
| 05:38.33 | Cervanis | its just a bit too buggy for my taste |
| 05:38.38 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40981 10Links/ (Links.toc embeds.xml): Links: use embeds.xml |
| 05:38.40 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:38.42 | art3mis | so |
| 05:38.46 | art3mis | as far as bossmods go |
| 05:38.53 | art3mis | how do the top 3 compare? |
| 05:39.04 | art3mis | resource wise i mean |
| 05:39.08 | Cervanis | specially when that one patch broke it... where all the targets would randomly switch from ct |
| 05:39.26 | art3mis | deadly, bigwigs and ora |
| 05:39.38 | art3mis | wel ora doesnt really have em |
| 05:39.43 | NightHawkTheSane | BigWigs Recording module? qua? |
| 05:39.44 | art3mis | but it does kind of |
| 05:40.08 | Cervanis | i prefer DBM |
| 05:40.17 | Funkeh` | Cervanis: why would you say that |
| 05:40.37 | art3mis | i like deadly's look |
| 05:40.56 | Funkeh` | you wouldn't like its look of its code... |
| 05:40.59 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: er, ora doesn't have boss mods that i'm aware of? |
| 05:41.09 | art3mis | it does kind of |
| 05:41.16 | art3mis | last i checked anyways |
| 05:41.21 | Funkeh` | no it does not |
| 05:41.23 | Funkeh` | it never did |
| 05:41.26 | art3mis | just crappy little timers n suff you could set |
| 05:41.30 | art3mis | hrm |
| 05:41.38 | art3mis | i must be confusing it with something else then |
| 05:41.42 | NightHawkTheSane | could be |
| 05:41.43 | Cervanis | i enjoy the too close meter mostly during gruul |
| 05:42.02 | Funkeh` | bigwigs has a range scanner |
| 05:42.07 | art3mis | so does deadly |
| 05:42.13 | Funkeh` | i know that |
| 05:42.17 | art3mis | but how are they comparatively on useage? |
| 05:42.17 | Funkeh` | did you read what he said? |
| 05:42.26 | art3mis | i did |
| 05:42.35 | Funkeh` | well you basically repeated it |
| 05:42.38 | art3mis | and im igoring your line of comments to get at the question *I* asked ;) |
| 05:42.58 | art3mis | relational commenting |
| 05:43.00 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:43.11 | art3mis | now answer me! |
| 05:43.22 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r40982 10Cellular/ (. Cellular.toc core.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 05:43.22 | CIA-22 | Cellular |
| 05:43.22 | CIA-22 | - reduced some more repeatitive entries in the options table by using "pass" value |
| 05:43.22 | CIA-22 | - unregister some events from chat frames instead of hooking/blocking them from a heavily called function |
| 05:43.22 | CIA-22 | - hooks now handled locally |
| 05:43.23 | CIA-22 | - dewdrop menu now appears at cursor instead of anchored to the left |
| 05:43.27 | CIA-22 | - URL copy feature no longer requires Prat, now done locally |
| 05:43.38 | Funkeh` | i don't understand the question, expand it |
| 05:43.49 | art3mis | well |
| 05:44.11 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Lurker bugs say Pong. |
| 05:44.12 | art3mis | in comparisson how are bigwigs and deadly in performance values and memcpu useage when triggered |
| 05:44.48 | Kirkburn | Somehow I just managed to land on 459g 99s 99c |
| 05:45.01 | Funkeh` | art3mis: i did a LOT of testing comparing them both, dbm has a slightly higher cpu and totally memory used, but its increasing memory during combat isn't great |
| 05:45.17 | Funkeh` | art3mis: it makes horrid use of onupdates |
| 05:45.34 | Funkeh` | bigwigs doesn't use a single onupdate |
| 05:46.03 | art3mis | so pretty vs hoggy basically? |
| 05:46.13 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 05:46.18 | Funkeh` | but thats not what pisses me off ;) |
| 05:46.22 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:46.32 | Cervanis | tis all about preference anyways |
| 05:46.34 | rpowers | I remember when I found BigWigs back when the whole guild still used CTRA |
| 05:46.36 | Funkeh` | what pisses me off is the fact theres parts of their boss modules clearly ripped from us |
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| 05:46.44 | rpowers | now pretty much everyone uses oRA2 and BigWigs |
| 05:46.44 | art3mis | ahhh |
| 05:46.55 | art3mis | so visually |
| 05:47.01 | xyu | Grid > ora! |
| 05:47.01 | art3mis | which do you like better? |
| 05:47.02 | xyu | sup |
| 05:47.08 | art3mis | i hate grid |
| 05:47.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: do you mean in concept, or the code itself? Cause hasn't bigwigs implemented things that dbm had first too? |
| 05:47.16 | art3mis | i dislike whack a mole ;P |
| 05:47.17 | xyu | wei she ma? |
| 05:47.19 | Funkeh` | completely visually? bigwigs is prettier |
| 05:47.25 | art3mis | hrm |
| 05:47.26 | rpowers | everyone I knew who used grid complained about how much memory it used |
| 05:47.28 | xyu | how is it not whack a mole if it's ora :P |
| 05:47.29 | art3mis | it used to be pretty ugly |
| 05:47.33 | Funkeh` | and im not jsut saying that ebcause i code it, the emphasized bars rock |
| 05:47.39 | rpowers | ora doesn't do raid frames afaik |
| 05:47.41 | NightHawkTheSane | xyu: er... ora and grid are two entirely different things? |
| 05:47.51 | ZealotOnAStick | The initial CTRA boss mods were huge, almost direct c&p in places, rips of the Conquest mods. |
| 05:47.55 | rpowers | i really want perfect raid ressurected :( |
| 05:47.58 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: i mean in boss modules |
| 05:48.17 | rpowers | perfectraid was exactly what I wanted |
| 05:48.18 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: in raid tools no, they were implemented because people switching from dbm to bw itched a lot |
| 05:48.20 | Kalman| | rpowers: Er... cladhaire has released perfectraid? |
| 05:48.27 | Funkeh` | bitched* |
| 05:48.29 | rpowers | Kalman|, huh? |
| 05:48.31 | art3mis | hrm |
| 05:48.39 | art3mis | i guess ill give bigwigs a shot |
| 05:48.44 | art3mis | although question for ya |
| 05:48.47 | rpowers | Kalman|, is it being maintained again? |
| 05:48.49 | art3mis | i see littlewigs is for 5mans |
| 05:48.59 | art3mis | does big just have those build in? |
| 05:49.07 | Cervanis | no |
| 05:49.08 | Kalman| | rpowers: It never stopped being maintained, afaik, it just took clad a while to get it up to speed. |
| 05:49.13 | NightHawkTheSane | rpowers: clad is maintaining it and there's a current version on wowi. |
| 05:49.14 | Funkeh` | bigwigs has no 5 man timers |
| 05:49.14 | rpowers | Kalman|, :o |
| 05:49.16 | Kalman| | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4673-PerfectRaid.html |
| 05:49.21 | rpowers | :o :o |
| 05:49.23 | Funkeh` | littlewigs is basically a plugin for bigwigs |
| 05:49.24 | art3mis | but itll play nice with both loaded right? |
| 05:49.29 | art3mis | ahh okay |
| 05:49.40 | rpowers | this is monumental! |
| 05:49.40 | NightHawkTheSane | praid is teh win. |
| 05:49.43 | art3mis | sometimes you get mini and full version stuff that replicates and doesnt like each other |
| 05:49.51 | NightHawkTheSane | although for raid healing i do like grid better, I think |
| 05:49.56 | rpowers | sometime around 2.0 i saw it fall off the charts |
| 05:50.00 | art3mis | i havent healed in about 6 months |
| 05:50.00 | rpowers | and it stopped working |
| 05:50.04 | rpowers | and i never saw an update |
| 05:50.10 | Funkeh` | art3mis: theres no APi code in littlewigs at all, it comkpletely uses bigwigs, its basically just a collection of 5 man instance folders |
| 05:50.25 | Peoii | Antiarc|Work: [2007/06/20 22:44:23-150-x2]: Threat-1.0-40902 (Threat-1.0):917: Assertion failed: type(nil --[=[partyUnits[player]]=]) == "string" --- |
| 05:50.26 | art3mis | hehe i actually had the RL tell me that he would gkick me if i respeced holy ever |
| 05:50.29 | rpowers | well, all i really need raid frames for is to see who needs to be decursed, and what buffs I need to throw out |
| 05:50.37 | art3mis | Funkeh`: ahh okay groovy |
| 05:51.00 | Kalman| | art3mis: One of our paladins promised me free potions whenever I need them after being in my group tonight. :) |
| 05:51.01 | NightHawkTheSane | rpowers: yeah, 2.0 killed the ace version of praid, with the secure template stuff. Clad's moved to dongle for the current version of praid, though, and it works nicely |
| 05:51.07 | art3mis | Kalman|: haha |
| 05:51.14 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40983 10/branches/RangeCheck/: RangeCheck: creating dir for branches |
| 05:51.50 | art3mis | i ripped down my ui at 2.1 since i didnt feel like fucking with the mazzle fixes to get it to look right |
| 05:51.58 | art3mis | so ive been replacing and adding as i remember mods i use |
| 05:51.58 | Funkeh` | im more of a grid person than a praid person, mainly because im a ui space saver |
| 05:52.02 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis, Kalman|: a while ago when I actually played my warrior, before the guild sort of fell apart, we had two priests, and I couldn't convince -either- of them to spec shadow for raids. >< |
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| 05:52.14 | Funkeh` | grid i throw in the corner :p |
| 05:52.18 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: heh the fools! |
| 05:52.21 | Kalman| | NightHawkTheSane: It helps that I leveled specifically to play as shadow. |
| 05:52.28 | art3mis | heh me too |
| 05:52.37 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07tooltip * r40984 10RangeCheck/ (. RangeCheck.lua): RangeCheck: branching |
| 05:52.39 | Kalman| | Draenei spriest is hard to beat for PvE. |
| 05:52.39 | art3mis | i was holy briefly (about 3 weeks before tbc) |
| 05:52.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalman|: true, but I mean, I'd think most priests would love a chance to spec shadow. *shrug* |
| 05:52.53 | art3mis | tht was the extent i played holy on my priest born shadow and ill die shadow |
| 05:53.14 | Funkeh` | i was holy since wow came out, i respeced shadow a few weeks after tbc when we hit gruul |
| 05:53.16 | Kalman| | NightHawkTheSane: A lot of them really like healing. One of ours specced shadow for a while b/c we needed spriests, but she's back to holy now that we have enough shadow around. |
| 05:53.39 | art3mis | heh any class that gets bitched about THAT much while not being near the overpowered that mages and hunters and locks are deserves respect |
| 05:53.46 | Funkeh` | i enjoy shadow more really |
| 05:54.08 | art3mis | shadow in tbc is super nice though |
| 05:54.11 | Kalman| | I gotta figure out what broke in DotDotDot so that it doesn't always update bars in raids, because that was annoying me tonight. :/ |
| 05:54.12 | art3mis | you're spoiled |
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| 05:54.44 | KarlThePagan | hyperChipmunk, bulkmail is locked up on me :( |
| 05:54.49 | art3mis | being shadow and being the 2nd last of the class updates and still destroying people that got buffed rules ;P |
| 05:55.22 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r40985 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua Sets/sets.lua): |
| 05:55.23 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 05:55.23 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
| 05:55.26 | art3mis | i made my guild tabard a bullseye when i pvp'd just because of my black glow ;P |
| 05:55.28 | KarlThePagan | art3mis, don't forget having your damage ratio nerfed back to pre-TBC! |
| 05:55.44 | art3mis | KarlThePagan: heh yeah |
| 05:55.46 | KarlThePagan | (except for mind flay) |
| 05:55.51 | art3mis | and it STILL not being that big of a hidnerance |
| 05:55.55 | Cervanis | one of my guildmates has a holy and a shadow priest |
| 05:56.00 | Kirkburn | Midsummer festival time, woo |
| 05:56.01 | art3mis | and then removing crits from vt and ve |
| 05:56.07 | art3mis | and it still not mattering |
| 05:56.17 | KarlThePagan | first... shadow priests were going to have an extra 10% multiplyer if you spec'd 29/0/31 |
| 05:56.20 | art3mis | spreists own, plain and simple |
| 05:56.26 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Bulkmail just locked up on me, too. |
| 05:56.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn: oh, woot. did they add anything new for that? |
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| 05:56.42 | KarlThePagan | then they took away improved weaving ... and put misery 40 points in shadow |
| 05:56.44 | Kirkburn | Not as far as I can tell :/ |
| 05:56.54 | Kirkburn | There's a group of people in Shattrath, but nothing new |
| 05:56.58 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40986 10ArkInventory/ArkInventoryRules.lua: |
| 05:56.58 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 05:56.58 | CIA-22 | - closetgnome link code fix |
| 05:56.59 | Antiarc | Hey, Kalman| |
| 05:56.59 | KarlThePagan | and then... they decided misery + weaving was soo much so waeving went down 5% |
| 05:57.02 | art3mis | that kind of sucks |
| 05:57.07 | Antiarc | How much hit does a rogue need to not miss on raid bosses? |
| 05:57.08 | art3mis | haha yeah |
| 05:57.08 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Well, probably BulkMail2Inbox. |
| 05:57.15 | Antiarc | I could have sworn it was 24.6% |
| 05:57.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn: :\ well at least I can get the spirit of summer pet on my shammy |
| 05:57.22 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Oh, god. There's some discussion on that. |
| 05:57.24 | Antiarc | Guildmate says 27.6%, and he's normally right about these things |
| 05:57.24 | KarlThePagan | Kemayo, yea inbox |
| 05:57.35 | Kirkburn | I guess 64 is too low to stealth the instances :/ |
| 05:57.36 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: If it means anything, there were a bunch of "cash only" mails displaying with 0c values. |
| 05:57.41 | Antiarc | Because I just hit 24.66% tonight and was very proud of myself |
| 05:57.44 | Kalman| | I think the conclusion was 308 hit rating with precision and weapex... but lemme ask Wodin real quick, if he's awake. |
| 05:57.46 | KarlThePagan | same here... tons of cash-only |
| 05:58.09 | Antiarc | 310 for me with precision, no WEx, but human |
| 05:58.19 | Kalman| | Were you getting misses? |
| 05:58.26 | Antiarc | I dunno, I just slotted gems after the raid |
| 05:58.33 | Kalman| | Ahh. |
| 05:58.33 | Antiarc | I'll know next raid though |
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| 06:01.54 | Kalman| | Eh, nobody in my channels who'd know. |
| 06:02.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn: 64? nah, you could probably do most of the instances. Strat might be tough, as the undead there detect stealth and are positioned in painful ways.. |
| 06:02.34 | Kirkburn | I'm a hunter ... |
| 06:02.40 | NightHawkTheSane | oh |
| 06:02.47 | Kirkburn | The "stealth" wasn't entirely literal :P |
| 06:02.47 | NightHawkTheSane | uh... i dunno, maybe? |
| 06:02.55 | Kebinusan | hmm I need a new theme for guild ranks |
| 06:02.55 | rpowers | woot, praid is maintained on google code |
| 06:02.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn: well I didn't know ;) |
| 06:03.00 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 06:03.00 | rpowers | so SVN access for that |
| 06:03.02 | Kebinusan | the naruto theme got old |
| 06:03.05 | NightHawkTheSane | you said stealth, i assumed rogue/druid ;) |
| 06:03.11 | rpowers | SWStats is the only mod I can't update via SVN |
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| 06:03.44 | Kemayo | Huh. How long have we been able to swap bags out of our banks with all their contents? I thought I remembered trying it ages ago and it not working. |
| 06:03.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn: You might be able to be creative and FD flop your way there, but I have no idea how to do that. >.> |
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| 06:05.12 | symian | Hi. I'm trying to place a custom border I created in my addon. It's not loading the image. Am I currect in assuming that a file located in Interface/Addons/myAddon/image.tga would be referenced as "Interface/Addons/myAddon/image"? |
| 06:05.26 | symian | s/currect/correct/ |
| 06:05.56 | Roartindon | symian: Interface\\Addons\\myAddon\\image |
| 06:06.04 | symian | Do I need to use windows-style references? |
| 06:06.14 | Roartindon | symian: I think so, not certain tho |
| 06:06.16 | symian | forward-slashes have worked so far, using blizzard elements |
| 06:06.21 | symian | in MPQs |
| 06:06.39 | symian | I'll give it a shot. Do I need to reference the image in a TOC? |
| 06:06.44 | Roartindon | nope |
| 06:07.00 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man.. anyone here read Questionable Content? |
| 06:07.19 | symian | NightHawkTheSane, I do, but it's been really repetitive lately. |
| 06:07.26 | Lywellyn | NightHawkTheSane: Me too |
| 06:07.29 | NightHawkTheSane | today's punchline is -great- |
| 06:07.31 | KarlThePagan | Kemayo, after disabling BMI it looks like i didn't actually have any "cash only" |
| 06:09.51 | symian | Hey Roartindon, that worked. Only, I totally screwed up the rotation for the images. :-\ |
| 06:10.00 | symian | Thanks! |
| 06:10.13 | Roartindon | symian: np, once you have stuff on screen, it's far easier to fix :) |
| 06:10.15 | Wobwork | NightHawkTheSane: Link? |
| 06:10.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: questionablecontent.net |
| 06:11.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: hey, question, what's the BigWigs recording module I saw in a commit? |
| 06:11.47 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: yesterday, I added in saving of separate fight data for later reference |
| 06:12.15 | Roartindon | The BigWigs module adds an automated version of this, by listening for BossDeath events and saves that fight's data aside |
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| 06:12.20 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 06:12.24 | NightHawkTheSane | That's sexy. |
| 06:13.03 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: So theoretically, you can run through Karazhan, SSC, Gruul, etc.. and it'll record your accumulated data. If you have the Automatic BigWigs Record option on (disabled by default), it'll also have a record of all your boss fight kills when you finish |
| 06:13.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: yeah, I get that. :) |
| 06:13.32 | Roartindon | If you left click on an empty spot on a window, or control+right click anywhere in there, you'll be able to select it to show in that window |
| 06:13.39 | NightHawkTheSane | like i said, sexy. |
| 06:14.06 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: I haven't had a chance to test it yet :) Going to find out tonight |
| 06:17.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe.. |
| 06:17.37 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.thisisbroken.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/25/nowhiring.jpg |
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| 06:18.33 | Fisker-- | Anyone with the quakewars beta that can do something for me? |
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| 06:19.49 | Wobwork | I read that as No Whiring |
| 06:19.55 | Wobwork | and wondered what whiring was |
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| 06:23.22 | McChuckles | Hello. :) |
| 06:23.23 | Fisker-- | so noone with the quake wars beta? :I |
| 06:23.39 | McChuckles | I just got my SVN access and I had a couple of questions |
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| 06:23.50 | Piefayth | Herro. |
| 06:24.01 | symian | I'm still having trouble with getting a border to work. I've saved the file as a jpeg, could someone more knowedgable than I take a look at it and see if I've done something wrong? |
| 06:24.02 | symian | http://www.net-fu.org/test.jpg |
| 06:24.13 | McChuckles | I'm using TurtleSVN and it seems a bit confusing to use. |
| 06:24.32 | McChuckles | It is a browser shell extension so I'm using the rightclick context menu to attempt my commit |
| 06:25.11 | McChuckles | But I'm being told I need to make a Commit Note - I don't see anywhere to do this via TurtleSVN |
| 06:25.19 | Kalman| | McChuckles: Have you looked at the SVN guide on the wowace wiki? |
| 06:25.26 | McChuckles | I'm looking at it now. |
| 06:25.47 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40987 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Now tracks active player time, which is used to determine DPS, HPS, and average DOT/HOT's up at a time |
| 06:25.54 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 06:27.02 | NightHawkTheSane | TurtleSVN? Is that like a finned sea-water-dwelling version of TortoiseSVN? |
| 06:27.18 | McChuckles | hehe :) |
| 06:28.00 | McChuckles | My mistake, Tortoise. |
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| 06:28.37 | McChuckles | Also my question was a bit off. I set the commit notes and the MIME type following the instructions on the SVN_Rules page |
| 06:29.02 | McChuckles | I'm getting an error stating that my lua and toc files dont have their svn:eol-style not set |
| 06:29.09 | McChuckles | How would I go about doing that? |
| 06:29.21 | Wobwork | go to settings in TortoiseSVN |
| 06:29.42 | Wobwork | and edit Subversion Configuration File |
| 06:29.50 | Wobwork | Down the bottom you can uncomment some lines that'll fix that |
| 06:30.11 | McChuckles | the "Makefile = svn:eol-style=native" line? |
| 06:30.12 | Wobwork | though you'll need to edit them appropriately |
| 06:30.27 | Wobwork | make it *.lua = svn:eol-style=native |
| 06:30.28 | Wobwork | etc |
| 06:30.39 | Wobwork | and *.toc |
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| 06:32.16 | McChuckles | Thanks Wob |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r40988 10StellarBars/ (6 files): |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-22 | StellarBars |
| 06:32.18 | CIA-22 | - initial commit |
| 06:32.25 | Wobwork | np |
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| 06:34.35 | NimbleRabit | does prat's tab completion |
| 06:34.39 | NimbleRabit | not work well at all for other people? |
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| 06:35.19 | _dRiN_ | after the patch NimbleRabit? |
| 06:36.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40989 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add basic positioning support. No offsets yet. |
| 06:36.21 | xt | CowTip? |
| 06:36.23 | xt | hmm |
| 06:36.31 | ckknight | xt: my tooltip mod |
| 06:36.43 | xt | interesting |
| 06:36.46 | xt | is it amazing? |
| 06:36.56 | ckknight | not yet |
| 06:36.59 | ckknight | but it's usable |
| 06:37.00 | NightHawkTheSane | McChuckles: to be sure, you probably want to do that to more than just *.lua and *.toc, *.xml, *.txt as well would be good at least |
| 06:37.16 | ckknight | xt: I don't think that tooltip mods _can_ be amazing |
| 06:37.38 | Cryect | Kalman|: damn wtf changing your avatar on EJ forums :-p I see someone quoting you and I think I read that but didn't see what his name |
| 06:37.41 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit most addon features dont work well for some people |
| 06:37.43 | McChuckles | thanks. I'm still getting an error stating that my eolstyle isnt set after setting |
| 06:37.53 | McChuckles | i went ahead and set it for the xml and txt types as well |
| 06:38.02 | McChuckles | *.lua = svn:eol-style=native |
| 06:38.07 | Kalman| | Cryect: Hahaha. It was better when people were using my old avatar. |
| 06:38.12 | McChuckles | also i do have enable-auto-props = yes |
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| 06:38.53 | ckknight | Kalman|: what's the avatar? |
| 06:38.59 | Piefayth | ck: what do you plan to do for the gui as far as positioning is conscerned - something to the effect of tooltip wrangler? |
| 06:39.13 | Kalman| | ckknight: Old one was a picture of Rudolf Kalman, new one is a Mycon. |
| 06:39.24 | sylvanaar | reminds me of Ultima 5 or whichever one that was |
| 06:39.27 | ckknight | Piefayth: well, you first select what corner you want it it. |
| 06:39.29 | ckknight | it in* |
| 06:39.36 | ckknight | Piefayth: using a dropdown radio menu |
| 06:39.49 | Cryect | why ultima 5? I mean avatar is in all of them :-p |
| 06:39.52 | Piefayth | And offset from there, once you've got that down? |
| 06:40.01 | ckknight | Piefayth: then my plan is to click "Change offset", where a box will pop up and you move it around by click-drag |
| 06:40.18 | sylvanaar | Cryect one of them was names Return of the Avatar or something |
| 06:40.19 | ckknight | Piefayth: well, I already have the radio menu down. |
| 06:40.38 | Cryect | Ah! |
| 06:40.42 | McChuckles | I'm getting a 'pre-commit' hook failed error |
| 06:40.49 | Piefayth | Oh nice. I was actually looking for a mod that does JUST that, but I couldn't find anything that worked as nicely as I wanted |
| 06:40.52 | sylvanaar | Cryect it was the one with the funny morality system |
| 06:41.29 | Cryect | read the error message and at least say that instead of saying you are getting an error :-p |
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| 06:41.56 | McChuckles | trying to type it out |
| 06:42.06 | Cryect | can't you copy and paste the message? |
| 06:42.06 | Kalman| | Cryect: No error message, but Recount was behaving oddly tonight, not catching all members of the raid group. |
| 06:42.17 | McChuckles | its still giving me a "svn:eol-Error: MERGE request failed on '/wowace/trunk' |
| 06:42.17 | McChuckles | Error: 'pre-commit' hook failed with error output: |
| 06:42.17 | McChuckles | Error: /var/repos/wowace/hooks/pre-commit.d/check-mime-type: |
| 06:42.17 | McChuckles | Error: trunk/AEmotes_Mcc/AEmotes_Mcc.lua : svn:eol-style is not set |
| 06:42.17 | McChuckles | Error: trunk/AEmotes_Mcc/AEmotes_Mcc.toc : svn:eol-style is not set |
| 06:42.18 | McChuckles | Error: Every added text file must have the svn:eol-style property set. |
| 06:42.20 | McChuckles | Error: We also -advise- that svn:mime-type be set, but it is not a |
| 06:42.25 | Cryect | stop :-p |
| 06:42.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Kalman|: were some of them out of combat log range? |
| 06:42.36 | Cryect | k you need to set your autoprops file correctly |
| 06:42.40 | Kalman| | ZealotOnAStick: Shouldn't have been. |
| 06:42.44 | McChuckles | didnt want to copy paste that wall of text :P |
| 06:42.46 | Kemayo | KarlThePagan: I also disabled BMI. I had some cash-only, but not as many as it claimed. Makes me suspect it's some sort of item-cache thing. |
| 06:42.50 | sylvanaar | ckknight one request - drop the "Lib - " from Ace2, so that its up at the top of the addon list (since it can enable all the other libs its the only one that matters) |
| 06:42.57 | Cryect | yeah you only had to show one line |
| 06:43.02 | ckknight | sylvanaar: no, since it's a lib |
| 06:43.03 | McChuckles | ^_^ |
| 06:43.04 | Cryect | one second |
| 06:43.10 | ckknight | you can scroll down |
| 06:43.10 | McChuckles | btw thanks for the help |
| 06:43.33 | KarlThePagan | Kemayo, but I had no cash only items... it may be identical sender/subject/text/time attributes |
| 06:43.41 | Cryect | Kalman|: I actually noticed an issue with my pet for a while but couldn't replicate it, the issue seems to be when things get misclassified |
| 06:43.42 | McChuckles | Cryect: I have the subversion config file open |
| 06:43.58 | Kalman| | Was losing about half the raid, somehow. :/ |
| 06:44.05 | KarlThePagan | I noticed I had one possible one... (sent using an auto-sender... so could have had the same timestamp if it is seconds) |
| 06:44.21 | Cryect | Yeah it shouldn't do that unless Roster doesn't say they are in your raid |
| 06:44.25 | sylvanaar | ckknight its not for me - just in general, plus its not LoD like the rest of em |
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| 06:44.27 | Cryect | which has bugged me |
| 06:44.34 | Fisker-- | So noone has quake wars beta? :< |
| 06:44.38 | Cryect | I do |
| 06:44.49 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I really don't see a significant reason to |
| 06:44.57 | sylvanaar | ckknight thats fine |
| 06:45.07 | Fisker-- | Cryect can you find one of the rackage servers with the ip and port? |
| 06:45.20 | Fisker-- | for some reason i can't retrieve the serverlist :< |
| 06:45.29 | CIA-22 | 03mcchuckles * r40990 10AEmotes_Mcc/ (26 files): |
| 06:45.29 | CIA-22 | AEmotes_Mcc: Initial Commit |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-22 | - Humorous AEmotes plugin for raiders |
| 06:45.33 | Cryect | in a momnet |
| 06:45.36 | sylvanaar | ckknight disable all addons, enable ace2 and you can do the rest in game |
| 06:45.54 | Cryect | k McChuckles you got http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps that set right? |
| 06:46.02 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: How do you load non-LoD addons once in game with ace2? |
| 06:46.07 | ckknight | yea, I do that now and again, and I can manually enable Lib: Ace2 without issue |
| 06:46.19 | sylvanaar | = /ace 2 enable, /rl |
| 06:46.22 | Cryect | if you have that set then the issue is you need to individually set each of the files (because you actually set your autoprop file afterwards) |
| 06:46.33 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Ah okay, was wondering if it could be done without the /rl :) |
| 06:46.43 | Cryect | And it only applies autoprops when you try to actually add the file |
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| 06:47.06 | sylvanaar | Roartindon well, prat can be loaded without /rl |
| 06:47.14 | sylvanaar | Roartindon it depends on the addon |
| 06:47.29 | Cryect | checking for a server for you now |
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| 06:48.33 | sylvanaar | for me i enable Ace2 + ACP then load the game and do the rest there |
| 06:49.03 | Cryect | Fisker-- one issue |
| 06:49.16 | Cryect | there is only one Rackage server wiht more than 1 person on it and its full |
| 06:49.32 | Cryect | heh not many UK players I guess yet |
| 06:50.49 | Fisker-- | there was like 8 yesterday |
| 06:50.57 | Fisker-- | well just find a server that's somewhat empty :P |
| 06:51.18 | Cryect | I think your issue is it whats 7:49 there? :-p |
| 06:51.23 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r40991 10StellarBars/ (. StellarBars.toc): |
| 06:51.23 | CIA-22 | StellarBars |
| 06:51.23 | CIA-22 | - full commit with externals |
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| 06:52.44 | Fisker-- | well they're dedicated Cryect :P |
| 06:55.04 | Cryect | alright here is some |
| 06:55.24 | Cryect | 193.93.45.186:27734 (was full) same ip but soccket 27733 |
| 06:55.39 | Cryect | 193.93.47.104:27733 |
| 06:55.47 | Cryect | and those 2 nonfull ones had only 1 person on them |
| 06:56.01 | Cryect | here's an EU server 84.244.187.166:27733 |
| 06:56.26 | Fisker-- | thanks :P |
| 06:56.37 | Cryect | np |
| 06:57.02 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40992 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Damage.lua): Assessment: Changed default physical damage color |
| 06:57.34 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40993 10Aloft/Aloft.toc: Aloft: Updated .toc |
| 07:05.32 | symian | Ok, I think I'm tracking down my border image problem. Can anyone please reccomend to me a good BLP2 -> TGA converter? I've used several, and none of them seem to work. |
| 07:07.12 | symian | Or even just a good description of what a valid edgefile is. |
| 07:07.20 | symian | More complete than exists on the wowwiki. |
| 07:08.03 | symian | Oh, or what would be AWESOME is if someone could *give* me a valid edgefile in tga form. |
| 07:09.27 | symian | ... or if someone could acknowledge my existence. |
| 07:09.55 | pub^ | *tickle symian* |
| 07:10.00 | symian | Aw, thanks. |
| 07:10.11 | symian | So I take it no one here knows much about these darned edgeFiles? |
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| 07:10.40 | Nargiddley | what arent you sure about ? |
| 07:10.40 | syeren | Hmmm! |
| 07:10.57 | symian | Nargiddley, I'm not sure what a valid edgeFile *is*. |
| 07:11.17 | symian | I see the description on wowwiki, but it's not terribly complete |
| 07:12.37 | Nargiddley | can you visualise how the pieces they describe would fit together to form the border ? |
| 07:12.50 | symian | That's about the only thing I can visualize. |
| 07:12.55 | symian | Where do these images go, though? |
| 07:13.03 | symian | Striped across the width of the top? |
| 07:13.09 | symian | Where does the splice occur? |
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| 07:13.15 | Nargiddley | take the image |
| 07:13.16 | symian | Where is the "center" of the border? |
| 07:13.34 | symian | What should the background be: pure alpha, or pure black? |
| 07:13.36 | symian | etc. |
| 07:13.47 | symian | Which image? |
| 07:13.53 | Nargiddley | use the alpha channel for transparency |
| 07:14.30 | symian | Nargiddley, could you send me, perhaps by posting in a web server, a valid edge file? |
| 07:14.38 | symian | in .tga form |
| 07:14.46 | Nargiddley | i'll go find a converter |
| 07:15.01 | symian | Sure, but please verify it works, first. |
| 07:15.04 | symian | I've tried... four now. |
| 07:15.08 | symian | None seem to work. |
| 07:15.54 | Nargiddley | i have had one that worked, new computer since then so i have to find it again |
| 07:16.07 | symian | Sure. Thanks for this. |
| 07:16.49 | Nargiddley | ah its a blp -> png converter that i've had working |
| 07:17.24 | symian | Right |
| 07:17.30 | symian | I tried that one |
| 07:17.34 | symian | no luck |
| 07:17.36 | Nargiddley | but it'll do the job for seeing what it looks like |
| 07:17.53 | symian | WoW doesn't recognize TGA, and the PNG seems to fail to correctly convert to TGA using GIMP |
| 07:18.14 | Nargiddley | do you see anything in game ? |
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| 07:18.45 | symian | Yes |
| 07:18.51 | symian | I do |
| 07:18.52 | symian | they look like dashed lines |
| 07:19.02 | symian | as if 1 or 2 pixels of each part of the frame are shown |
| 07:19.14 | Nargiddley | hm |
| 07:19.16 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40994 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:19.16 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 07:19.16 | CIA-22 | -- 32680 Booterang |
| 07:20.03 | phyber | Booteraaaaaannnggg! |
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| 07:20.31 | Adirelle|Work | re |
| 07:20.35 | Arrowmaster | my friend made an alt named Booterang just to gkick people |
| 07:21.06 | phyber | haha |
| 07:22.22 | Nargiddley | symian, just testing the tga i've now got in game |
| 07:22.32 | symian | Sure. Thanks! |
| 07:23.24 | Nargiddley | k seems to be working |
| 07:23.44 | symian | Could you send it off to me? |
| 07:23.49 | symian | For me to check it out. |
| 07:25.57 | Nargiddley | trying dcc, let me know if it doesnt work |
| 07:26.05 | symian | YIKES! |
| 07:26.06 | symian | Ok |
| 07:26.12 | symian | Try that again |
| 07:26.14 | symian | I was in WoW |
| 07:26.16 | symian | and it popped up |
| 07:26.21 | Nargiddley | k |
| 07:26.41 | symian | Great, thanks. |
| 07:26.45 | symian | Let me see how that works out |
| 07:26.59 | Nargiddley | to get that it was use the blp->png converted then Paint.NET to save as a 32bit tga |
| 07:28.05 | symian | That works for me except that the top left corner is missing |
| 07:28.12 | symian | do you see the top left corner as missing? |
| 07:28.22 | Nargiddley | the bags have that as a seperate piece |
| 07:28.27 | symian | RIght |
| 07:28.28 | symian | Gotcha |
| 07:28.37 | symian | Ok... does anyone here use Gimp? |
| 07:28.58 | symian | Apparently I don't know what settings to use to save .tga files in Gimp |
| 07:29.21 | Nargiddley | the only settings i had available was enable compression and 32 bit |
| 07:30.48 | symian | I see |
| 07:30.49 | symian | Yeah |
| 07:30.53 | symian | it seems to be working too |
| 07:30.59 | symian | which means I'm lacking a good converter |
| 07:31.08 | symian | However, i noticed something in the .tga you sent me |
| 07:31.12 | symian | It's not a square file. |
| 07:31.15 | symian | Is that an issue? |
| 07:31.30 | symian | I was under the impression an edgeFile needed to be a power-of-2 square file. |
| 07:31.52 | Nargiddley | each side might need to be power of 2 not sure, but doesnt have to be square |
| 07:32.29 | symian | I see, I see. |
| 07:32.39 | Nargiddley | a square would give you pretty weird sized slices |
| 07:32.50 | Nargiddley | i just gets cut into 8 pieces side by side |
| 07:32.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40995 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add option to set frame anchors. - pops up a box that can be dragged around. |
| 07:32.51 | symian | And I'm sure that's what my issue was |
| 07:32.59 | symian | Hahah. |
| 07:33.03 | symian | Thank's Nargiddley. |
| 07:33.10 | symian | That was truly great of you to do. To help me like that. |
| 07:33.19 | Nargiddley | 8 times as wide and high will give you square pieces |
| 07:33.31 | Nargiddley | *wide as high |
| 07:33.37 | symian | Right |
| 07:33.46 | Elkano | ckknight, are there/will there be different anchor settings for different types of tooltips? eg unit vs frame |
| 07:33.56 | ckknight | yes. |
| 07:33.58 | syeren | Ckk, do you try and come up with the most obscure names for your addons ever? |
| 07:34.01 | ckknight | there are. |
| 07:34.13 | ckknight | syeren: CowTip deals with Tooltips. |
| 07:34.21 | ckknight | at least it has the word Tip in it |
| 07:34.27 | ckknight | and Cow tipping is funny. |
| 07:34.42 | syeren | ckk, does this make it possible to remove all forms of tool tip when I hover over my Pitbull Frames? |
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| 07:34.47 | syeren | I generally don't want them :p |
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| 07:36.17 | Kirkburn | I've never seen tooltips on my Pitbull UFs |
| 07:36.55 | ckknight | syeren: that's an option in PitBull. |
| 07:37.38 | Kirkburn | I see Global "Hide tooltips in combat" |
| 07:38.50 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc, Antiarc|Work: double ping |
| 07:38.59 | Antiarc | Single pong! |
| 07:39.22 | Fisker-- | can i has stdio? |
| 07:40.03 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: (the game is knowing which one replies :p), what about adding a ":InjectAceOptionTable" in threatlib for adding common KLHTM settings and commands ? |
| 07:40.14 | Fisker-- | sylvanaar you there? |
| 07:40.27 | Adirelle|Work | I mean : enable, set master target, clear master target, send version query |
| 07:41.19 | Adirelle|Work | (I must admit I'm still wondering how to store "persistent" settings, like KLHTM broadcast flag) |
| 07:41.45 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r40996 10StellarBars/ (. StellarBars.toc): |
| 07:41.45 | CIA-22 | StellarBars |
| 07:41.45 | CIA-22 | - added missing AceHook to toc and externals |
| 07:41.48 | Antiarc | Adirelle|Work: Hrm. I'd expected that GUIs would implement that kind of control and the SVs and stuff |
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| 07:43.03 | nadas | ckknight: any chance you have a screenshot of CowTip in action? ;) |
| 07:43.27 | ckknight | nadas: um, just install it and be a big boy |
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| 07:43.52 | nadas | i'm at work so can't atm :p but ok, i'll check it out in 7 hours.. |
| 07:43.58 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:44.01 | ckknight | it's a tooltip addon |
| 07:44.06 | ckknight | it's like TinyTip |
| 07:44.22 | ckknight | only instead of just manipulating information on the tooltip, it adds its own stuff |
| 07:44.29 | ckknight | and is tag-based and customizable |
| 07:44.30 | nadas | aha |
| 07:44.41 | nadas | nice |
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| 07:44.47 | nadas | that does indeed sound interesting |
| 07:45.06 | nadas | uses dogtag then? |
| 07:45.07 | ckknight | also, the code looks nice |
| 07:45.09 | Roartindon | nadas: yes |
| 07:45.10 | ckknight | yep, DogTag-1.0 |
| 07:45.30 | Roartindon | ckknight: Any plans to make DogTag support plugin-tags? |
| 07:45.34 | ckknight | nope. |
| 07:45.48 | ckknight | I'd prefer it to be centralized |
| 07:47.37 | Iceroth | having the tooltip stick to mouse when hovering over 3d world and showing target of the unit hovered over are the 2 most important thing to me in a tooltip addon :) |
| 07:47.54 | Peoii | Antiarc: Suggestion, an option to disable Omen while in a BG. I don't really need to see that ;) |
| 07:48.10 | Iceroth | Peoii, second that |
| 07:50.39 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: it would result in duplications. at least we may provide the basic methods |
| 07:50.47 | Kirkburn | Wow, we're nearly at 41,000 already? |
| 07:50.55 | vhaarr | Boubouille: ping |
| 07:51.01 | Boubouille | pong |
| 07:51.10 | vhaarr | Boubouille: news title: "Archimonde world 2nd kill by Nihilum" |
| 07:51.15 | vhaarr | content: "Death and Taxes is back to the top and got the world 2nd (US 1st) kill of Archimonde. " |
| 07:51.16 | Boubouille | ops |
| 07:51.20 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: and maybe adding some feedback to GUIs by event could be sufficient |
| 07:51.39 | Boubouille | fixed :p |
| 07:52.01 | syeren | ckknight, there is no "Hide Tooltips Full Stop." |
| 07:52.02 | syeren | ;) |
| 07:52.13 | ckknight | meh |
| 07:52.32 | Kirkburn | Which is making me all the more confused as to why I don't see tooltips |
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| 07:52.39 | cncfanatics | hello everyone |
| 07:52.46 | Kirkburn | Esp since I don't even have that option ticked |
| 07:52.49 | Fisker-- | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 07:53.08 | purl | sylvanaar is currently on #wowace (6h 37m 43s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 1h 4m 35s, last said: 'for me i enable Ace2 + ACP then load the game and do the rest there'. |
| 07:53.08 | Kirkburn | Hullo cncfanatics |
| 07:53.32 | xt | ~seen xt |
| 07:53.33 | purl | xt <i=xt@of.doom.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1s ago, saying: '~seen xt'. |
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| 07:56.30 | Peoii | hrm... |
| 07:58.05 | Peoii | ckknight: So I was looking over that donate screen, and I came up with an interesting thought... why limit it to just donates? You could potentially add fields also like "Report a bug" /etc that would link to forum posts, wiki pages, etc. All optional of course per the authors settings, but could potentially be handy... |
| 07:58.20 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 07:58.25 | ckknight | that is a possibility |
| 07:58.46 | Fisker-- | Anyone got notes for cartographer with all the fires? |
| 07:59.07 | Peoii | Making an entire "feedback" type system for it, wherein the donate, bug report, help, etc could all be located. |
| 07:59.14 | Peoii | *shrug* just a random thought =) |
| 07:59.51 | Kirkburn | Quick thought, possible to make "Website:" a clickable/selectable line in the About box? |
| 08:00.03 | Kirkburn | Same with email I guess |
| 08:00.16 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:00.26 | ckknight | yea, that's a possibility |
| 08:00.56 | Boubouille | OH MY GOD |
| 08:01.00 | Boubouille | oh my god oh my god oh my god ! |
| 08:01.06 | Kirkburn | Also, About box needs some top padding :P |
| 08:01.12 | Boubouille | I don't have to ctrl + click links on firefox to open them in a new tab ! |
| 08:01.18 | Boubouille | I can just use the middle mouse button ! |
| 08:01.29 | Kirkburn | omg, omg, omg |
| 08:01.38 | Kirkburn | Super drag and drop ftw |
| 08:01.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40997 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - color class by its proper color. |
| 08:01.56 | ckknight | Kirkburn: :-) |
| 08:02.04 | Boubouille | every bit of ergonomy is important after 1 month on Vista :( |
| 08:02.15 | Kirkburn | IE7Pro ftw ;) |
| 08:02.43 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r40998 10LZProfiler/ (. LZProfiler.lua LZProfiler.toc Locale.lua): |
| 08:02.43 | CIA-22 | LZProfiler: |
| 08:02.43 | CIA-22 | - First upload. |
| 08:02.43 | CIA-22 | - This is a profiler for the Lords of the Zodiac guild roster. |
| 08:02.54 | Fisker-- | indeed Kirkburn |
| 08:03.07 | Peoii | IE7 has a pro version? |
| 08:03.14 | Fisker-- | it's a plugin |
| 08:03.17 | Peoii | oh... |
| 08:03.17 | Kirkburn | Hmm, what else can I annoy ckk with? Oh yeah, About box should really say "Close" not "Okay", right? |
| 08:03.34 | Kirkburn | An awesome plugin at that |
| 08:03.39 | ckknight | Kirkburn: ah, that's a blizz thing I don't feel like changing |
| 08:03.47 | Kirkburn | Almost brings it up to FF2 standard |
| 08:03.55 | Kirkburn | Silly Blizz |
| 08:04.01 | Peoii | Kirkburn: It can't be awesome if it requires IE to run =) |
| 08:04.03 | Fisker-- | up? |
| 08:04.06 | Fisker-- | That would be down |
| 08:04.14 | Kirkburn | See, I said "almost" just so I could avoid the inevitable flames :( |
| 08:04.17 | Fisker-- | but it brings it above FF2 standard, and also IE7 standard |
| 08:04.41 | Kirkburn | Fisker- has no such qualms of course |
| 08:04.44 | Silviu- | ckknight hmmm cowtip looks nice :P |
| 08:04.47 | Peoii | hehe |
| 08:05.02 | Kirkburn | Fisker- kill your alter ego :/ |
| 08:05.16 | Kirkburn | it's annoying my auto-complete :( |
| 08:05.23 | ckknight | CowTip is meant to be simple, customizeable, and informative |
| 08:05.26 | Elkano | famous last words from a pilot: "What does 'pull up' mean?" |
| 08:05.28 | Kirkburn | Screenshot! |
| 08:05.29 | ckknight | all at once |
| 08:05.35 | Silviu- | Yup, and it`s nice :) |
| 08:05.39 | Kirkburn | Screenie, screenie! |
| 08:05.41 | Kirkburn | Screenie! |
| 08:05.58 | Kirkburn | I demand screenage. |
| 08:06.02 | liquiem | screenshot please :/ |
| 08:06.20 | Silviu- | Ok sec |
| 08:06.24 | ckknight | thanks, Silviu- |
| 08:06.42 | Kirkburn | :D Sad panda will have to wait for another day |
| 08:07.09 | Silviu- | ckknight maybe some options to colour name or so |
| 08:07.14 | Silviu- | Looks more nice |
| 08:07.16 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r40999 10LZProfiler/ (. LZProfiler.toc): |
| 08:07.16 | CIA-22 | LZProfiler: |
| 08:07.16 | CIA-22 | - Updating externals. |
| 08:07.16 | CIA-22 | - Updating logtemplate. |
| 08:07.19 | Silviu- | http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062107110627nv3.jpg |
| 08:07.21 | Silviu- | screen :) |
| 08:07.22 | ckknight | Silviu-: well, you can just edit the tags. |
| 08:07.48 | ravagernl | ckknight: bottom left position in pitbull is wrong, I try to attach the name text to it and the name shows up at the topleft inside the frame |
| 08:08.07 | ckknight | Lines -> Line #1 -> Left -> "[Name:ClassColor]" |
| 08:08.08 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 08:08.12 | ravagernl | bottom left outside the frame that is |
| 08:08.18 | ckknight | ravagernl: okay |
| 08:08.18 | Silviu- | Oh ok ckk |
| 08:08.37 | Silviu- | ckknight and if i want to remove a line i just empty that tag right ? |
| 08:09.22 | ravagernl | Moo. It'll graze your pasture. XD |
| 08:10.00 | ckknight | Silviu-: right. |
| 08:10.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41000 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - fix frame-outbottomleft position |
| 08:10.05 | ckknight | Silviu-: and you can add whatever else you feel like |
| 08:10.07 | ckknight | lol, 41000 |
| 08:10.13 | ckknight | wasn't even paying attention |
| 08:10.16 | Cyrez | ZOMGPWN! |
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| 08:11.09 | Silviu- | ckknight option to fubar plugin to move it to right :) |
| 08:11.24 | ckknight | move what to right? |
| 08:11.49 | winkiller | where did pitbull layouts vanish? |
| 08:11.55 | ckknight | winkiller: um, what? |
| 08:12.07 | Peoii | ckknight: As long as I can customize CowTip to allow me to make my tooltip fit into the "dreamlayout" skin, I'll be stoked. |
| 08:12.08 | winkiller | I only have "import layout" now |
| 08:12.22 | ckknight | Peoii: how is that accomplished? |
| 08:12.23 | winkiller | whereas I used to change it seperately for target/player/etc |
| 08:12.34 | ckknight | Peoii: isn't that just removing the border or something? |
| 08:12.41 | winkiller | or is that now an extrapackage that might not have been loaded? *checks* |
| 08:12.41 | ravagernl | ckknight: annoy for border inset of 4 for cowtip :P |
| 08:12.42 | Iceroth | cow gonna have health bar? |
| 08:12.45 | Peoii | ckknight: Modify the background colour and opacity, bordrer colour/texture/removal, etc. |
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| 08:12.51 | ckknight | winkiller: yea, it is separate. |
| 08:12.57 | winkiller | ok thanks .- will check |
| 08:13.06 | Silviu- | ckknight fubar icon :) |
| 08:13.10 | ckknight | Peoii: okay, you can do border texture now (including None texture) |
| 08:13.14 | ckknight | Silviu-: explain yourself! |
| 08:13.23 | Peoii | nifty. |
| 08:13.33 | Fisker-- | Kirkburn you should realize that saying "Almost" just produces more flames as it would definately be above it anyways :p |
| 08:13.34 | ckknight | wait, Silviu-, I see what you're saying |
| 08:13.49 | Silviu- | ckknight right click your CowTip fubar icon and u will see u can`t move it to middle, left right |
| 08:13.50 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 08:13.59 | Peoii | (and I just realized, I'll prolly drive people crazy if/when I write an addon, cause I'll force every single reference to color to be colour... people need to learn to spell properly... :/ |
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| 08:14.01 | Elkano | ckknight, will you add HP/MP bars? |
| 08:14.21 | ckknight | Peoii: sorry, but almost all coding standards dictate enUS usage over enGB usage. |
| 08:14.27 | ckknight | Elkano: *shrug* |
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| 08:14.38 | ckknight | Elkano: why can't you be happy with the texts :-P |
| 08:14.40 | Peoii | ckknight: hehe, fair enough. |
| 08:14.40 | ckknight | ? |
| 08:14.44 | Elkano | and for item tooltips: allow coloring by rarity ^^ |
| 08:15.04 | Elkano | (for border/bg) |
| 08:15.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41001 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix the FuBar position dealy. |
| 08:15.11 | winkiller | I demand an AI that chooses a layout I like |
| 08:15.13 | Kirkburn | Sooo not fair! Colour ftw |
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| 08:16.21 | Kirkburn | Btw, ClearFont has an enGB localization, just for the word "customize". Except that it doesn't appear to work. Or I removed it. |
| 08:16.26 | Silviu- | ckknight in PitBull folder u forgot that Modules folder ( empty ) from your attempt to clean the directory structure ;p |
| 08:16.27 | Iceroth | ofc we are not happy with texts, we paid a lot of $$$ to have computers capable if displaying cool graphics :) |
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| 08:21.14 | ravagernl | yeah I thought so you copied that from pitbull |
| 08:21.22 | abbat_w | Pitbull highly configurable. You can make tooltip addon from pitbull ;) |
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| 08:21.52 | Kirkburn | lol, I love this - I'm fighting a level 29 warrior with my 64 hunter |
| 08:21.56 | Kirkburn | We're about equal |
| 08:22.14 | Kirkburn | After a minute the bear is on 95%, and I'm on 99.6%, no 100% |
| 08:22.35 | Kirkburn | Er, did I say warrior? |
| 08:22.43 | Kirkburn | I meant level 29 Giant Ashenvale Bear >_> |
| 08:22.51 | ravagernl | you know what's quite funny, rumors say mazzlefiz is thinking of replacing duf with pitbull for mazzleui |
| 08:22.57 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r41003 10ACP/ (ACP.lua localization-enUS.lua): ACP: For protected addons, check that they are enabled and loaded at login. If not - prompt to reloadui and enable them |
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| 08:23.57 | ckknight | lol, ravagernl |
| 08:24.14 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 08:24.19 | abbat_w | yep |
| 08:24.32 | Kirkburn | The bear is now on 46% :D I'm getting there |
| 08:24.42 | abbat_w | Now Pitbull can do almost all what DUF can do. And much more what DUF never do |
| 08:25.23 | winkiller | I am missing a tutorial on making layouts |
| 08:25.35 | winkiller | tried it shortly and failed a bit |
| 08:25.41 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 08:25.41 | ravagernl | yeah, mazzle's UF are just bars, there is no reason he's still relying on DUF for them |
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| 08:25.52 | abbat_w | this is because you never play with DUF :) |
| 08:26.09 | abbat_w | try DUF and after DUF you can easy setup any mod |
| 08:26.27 | winkiller | ^lol |
| 08:26.29 | Iceroth | :p |
| 08:26.31 | Iceroth | so true |
| 08:26.34 | ravagernl | I have tried DUF |
| 08:26.36 | winkiller | never tried |
| 08:26.55 | winkiller | but I want xperl uniframe looks on pitbull |
| 08:26.56 | abbat_w | I use duf about 1 year |
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| 08:27.11 | abbat_w | But author lost in space |
| 08:27.19 | ravagernl | my point is, most people using duf just use a portrait, health bar and mana bar and nothing more of the functionality |
| 08:27.39 | abbat_w | don't think |
| 08:27.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41004 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add options to change border color and background color (including opacity). |
| 08:27.58 | ckknight | Peoii: ^--- |
| 08:28.00 | abbat_w | DUF is highly customisable unit frames with user ui for config |
| 08:28.21 | abbat_w | Now aced mods can use dewdrop, waterfall etc |
| 08:29.12 | winkiller | oh, first time I read about CowTip |
| 08:29.18 | abbat_w | And every user can config it w/o terrible /modname option_name subopt1_name subopt2_name value |
| 08:29.22 | winkiller | what's wrong with TinyTip? |
| 08:29.35 | abbat_w | Nothing |
| 08:29.35 | ckknight | winkiller: few reasons: |
| 08:29.48 | ckknight | oh no, it's definitely not nothing |
| 08:29.58 | winkiller | never seen you replace something just for fun |
| 08:30.11 | ckknight | (i) Have you seen the code? it is one of the hardest to read things ever. It's just ...augh. |
| 08:30.21 | ckknight | (b) I wanted a tag-based system |
| 08:30.33 | winkiller | I still wonder what your reasons for planne world domination are :P |
| 08:30.35 | syeren | ckknight, does Cowtip have the ability to show the target's target yet? |
| 08:30.43 | syeren | If so, I'll switch over after this AV :p |
| 08:30.54 | Silviu- | ckknight new options not work correctly, first tooltip i show they work if i make my tooltip transparrent but second not ;) |
| 08:30.55 | ckknight | (3) TinyTip didn't properly use Ace, and when it did, it used it horribly. |
| 08:31.04 | Silviu- | syeren yes |
| 08:31.08 | Kirkburn | Orgrimmar is sooo easy to infiltrate |
| 08:31.31 | pb_ee1 | After (i), ckknight counts (b). But after (b), ckknight counts (3). Wtf? :P |
| 08:31.49 | ckknight | hehe |
| 08:31.50 | Silviu- | let`s hope u understand what i said ^^ |
| 08:31.52 | ckknight | I did that on purpose |
| 08:31.58 | syeren | abbat_w, when Pitbull takes advntage of Niagra and ckk finishes up the tweaks, Pitbull will even be better than the oldschool DUF \o/ |
| 08:31.58 | syeren | :p |
| 08:31.59 | pb_ee1 | Aha, sorry then ^_^ |
| 08:31.59 | ckknight | Silviu-: yea, I see it |
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| 08:32.12 | Iceroth | (IV) is the next one obviously |
| 08:32.14 | syeren | Although I think the Niagra thing is in :p |
| 08:32.17 | ckknight | syeren: Target's Target, eh? |
| 08:32.23 | ckknight | syeren: sure, I'll add it. |
| 08:32.35 | syeren | When I hover over a target with my mouse, I like to see who they're targetting ckknight :) |
| 08:32.43 | ravagernl | ya know I dont understand how dogs can bark at cows they want something on their tooltips |
| 08:32.44 | Iceroth | = hovertarget :) |
| 08:32.48 | ravagernl | do dogs speak moo? |
| 08:32.49 | Silviu- | syeren that is already in |
| 08:32.54 | syeren | I know :p |
| 08:32.59 | abbat_w | syeren, i'm using pitbull about 1 month. And i found what i can do all with PitBull what i do before with DUF. |
| 08:33.07 | ravagernl | mouseovertarget :o |
| 08:33.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41005 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add TargetTarget tag. |
| 08:33.27 | Imp4kT | Latest stupid rumor is that KTM is now illegal and it bans people |
| 08:33.31 | syeren | Used it since it was a baby and fell apart whenever I used it >_< |
| 08:33.31 | Imp4kT | Idiots ftw |
| 08:33.33 | Silviu- | ckknight and maybe an option for fade like 2 seconds or so |
| 08:33.35 | syeren | But hey, look at it now :p |
| 08:33.35 | ckknight | syeren: oh, mouseovertarget is already in there. |
| 08:33.46 | ckknight | Silviu-: maybe later |
| 08:33.51 | Silviu- | Okay :) |
| 08:34.28 | syeren | Just got to let this AV finish :p |
| 08:34.32 | syeren | AVFK is amazing for honor ;p |
| 08:34.47 | Fisker-- | i has a var |
| 08:35.05 | ckknight | itz 5 |
| 08:35.16 | mitch0 | ckk: wanna add a "unitrange" tag, too? :) |
| 08:35.20 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41006 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: playernames: Hopefully reduce memory usage slightly. |
| 08:35.41 | ckknight | mitch0: that's not really possible. |
| 08:35.52 | ckknight | mitch0: or you just asking for a true/false thing? |
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| 08:36.09 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41007 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: playernames: Forgot a 'local'. |
| 08:36.16 | mitch0 | no. I'm asking for using RangeCheck-1.0 to get an estimated range |
| 08:36.24 | ckknight | ah, you do it :-P |
| 08:36.34 | ckknight | bad, vhaarr, globals are bad! no banana! |
| 08:36.37 | mitch0 | should it be in dogtag then? |
| 08:36.41 | vhaarr | :( |
| 08:36.42 | ckknight | mitch0: yep |
| 08:36.47 | ckknight | vhaarr: :-P |
| 08:36.52 | ravagernl | Mr cow thinks border insets of 4 are sexy |
| 08:37.06 | mitch0 | ckk: how often are dogtag tags are evaluated? on every onupdate? |
| 08:37.13 | ckknight | oh no |
| 08:37.17 | ckknight | dear lord, no |
| 08:37.20 | mitch0 | then? |
| 08:37.26 | ckknight | mitch0: they're updated based on the events provided |
| 08:37.34 | ckknight | one of which may be "Update", which will update every 0.15 seconds |
| 08:37.42 | mitch0 | ah. cool |
| 08:37.50 | mitch0 | I'll hack it into dogtag then |
| 08:37.55 | ckknight | shouldn't be hard |
| 08:37.57 | mitch0 | "range" would be ok? |
| 08:38.04 | ckknight | Range |
| 08:38.07 | mitch0 | okm |
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| 08:38.43 | ckknight | mitch0: make it do nothing if RangeCheck-1.0 is nonexistent, see the Threat stuff for that |
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| 08:39.20 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41008 10SimpleChatMods/timestamps.lua: SimpleChatMods: timestamps: Don't recreate the format string every :AddMessage. |
| 08:40.10 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41009 10FuBar_LootTypeFu/ (LootTypeFu.lua LootTypeFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_LootTypeFu: Removed uncommon and poor loot thresholds as options, as the game errors now if you try to use them anyway. |
| 08:40.33 | vhaarr | right, I just read about that |
| 08:41.22 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Did they shuffle around the API returns and such for GetLootThreshold and SetLootThreshold? |
| 08:41.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41010 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - update background color at OnShow, since some things change it. |
| 08:41.49 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Return values and parameters are all teh same |
| 08:41.57 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Just errors if you don't pass it a value between 2 and 6 |
| 08:42.01 | Roartindon | (0 = poor, 1= uncommon) |
| 08:42.11 | vhaarr | err |
| 08:42.14 | vhaarr | 2 is uncommon |
| 08:42.19 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r41011 10AutoBar/ (14 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 08:42.19 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 08:42.19 | CIA-22 | -- 2.01.00.04 beta |
| 08:42.19 | CIA-22 | -- Removed a bunch of redundant categories, shifted all non spell ones to PT3, partway through being completely PT3 based. |
| 08:42.20 | CIA-22 | -- Bottled Nethergon Energy (32902) and Bottled Nethergon Vapor (32905) |
| 08:42.21 | Roartindon | err.. whatever 1 was.. :) |
| 08:42.21 | CIA-22 | -- 11562:670 Ungoro Restore, 11951:800 Whipper Root, 11952:425 Night Dragon's Breath |
| 08:42.25 | Roartindon | poor and common? |
| 08:42.25 | CIA-22 | -- 19183 Hourglass Sand |
| 08:42.27 | vhaarr | 1 is common |
| 08:42.31 | vhaarr | 0 is ppor |
| 08:42.32 | ckknight | so, think that CowTip is ready to be announced on the forum? |
| 08:42.34 | vhaarr | poor* |
| 08:43.03 | vhaarr | Roartindon: right, so your commit message was flawed |
| 08:43.04 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41012 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: removed localization stuff, getRangeAsString() always returns 'min - max' or nil. If you need fancier formatting, use getRange() and format the values |
| 08:43.09 | vhaarr | they only removed poor and common |
| 08:43.13 | vhaarr | not uncommon? |
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| 08:43.23 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Yeah, commit message wrong, code works right :) |
| 08:43.27 | vhaarr | goody |
| 08:43.39 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Got common and uncommon muddled in my head |
| 08:44.23 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41013 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Blizzard removed Poor and Common as loot threshold settings. |
| 08:44.25 | Roartindon | oh, I found a huge source of my Ace2 memory growth.. it seems Pitbull's UpdateAllMenu stuff is a leaky bitch :P |
| 08:45.14 | syeren | ckknight, how do I make the player name... be the class color? |
| 08:45.20 | syeren | ClassColor I know is the tag. |
| 08:45.22 | ckknight | [Name:ClassColor] |
| 08:45.23 | [Ammo] | I have around 2-4M growth per hour or something on Ace2 here, not using pitbull |
| 08:45.26 | syeren | Thank you :) |
| 08:45.39 | Gandharva | my new cat :) http://home.arcor.de/herbertschindler/pics/mutzi/Katze07-003.jpg |
| 08:45.55 | ckknight | Gandharva's a German! |
| 08:45.57 | wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.22 | Gandharva | No I´m from Austria :) |
| 08:46.30 | ckknight | ah, fair enough |
| 08:46.33 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41014 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: 'export' MeleeRange in the public API |
| 08:46.42 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Using OneBag? |
| 08:47.22 | Kirkburn | I've found Ahab Wheathoof! |
| 08:47.34 | Kirkburn | I love how he has his own voice :D (Ezra's) |
| 08:48.06 | Kirkburn | A really disturbing tauren voice, but cool nonetheless |
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| 08:48.56 | syeren | ckknight, for some reason my mage color is yellow O-o; |
| 08:49.07 | SunTiger | mages are better when yellow |
| 08:49.09 | wobin | Where is he Kirk? |
| 08:49.27 | vhaarr | _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,texture = GetItemInfo(tonumber(itemId)); |
| 08:49.30 | vhaarr | gg |
| 08:49.45 | wobin | Was that written pre select? |
| 08:49.49 | mitch0 | what does AceLibrary("Foo-1.0") do if I don't have "Foo-1.0"? return nil, or error out in some weird way? |
| 08:49.50 | SunTiger | getiteminfo, the best example of multiple return values ever. |
| 08:50.00 | ckknight | syeren: err... |
| 08:50.00 | vhaarr | it's in rev 41011 changelog |
| 08:50.07 | ckknight | mitch0: error |
| 08:50.11 | wobin | >< |
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| 08:50.12 | mitch0 | doh. ok |
| 08:50.13 | Kirkburn | Just outside Bloodhoof Village |
| 08:50.13 | ckknight | mitch0: do AceLibrary:HasInstance("Foo-1.0") |
| 08:50.17 | wobin | Welcome to Lua 5.1 =P |
| 08:50.18 | krka | pre select? |
| 08:50.18 | Roartindon | wobin: Well, select is core lua.. but, it is a global lookup |
| 08:50.22 | mitch0 | ckk: that's why I asked :) |
| 08:50.24 | syeren | ckknight: http://fabrikate.org/wow/cowtipclass.jpg |
| 08:50.28 | mitch0 | just noticed that in dogtag |
| 08:50.31 | syeren | The person he is targetting is a mage. |
| 08:50.34 | Kirkburn | Friendly to Alliance, but doesn't give quest |
| 08:50.48 | Kirkburn | Aha! I found Kyle the dog! |
| 08:50.49 | ckknight | syeren: oh... |
| 08:50.50 | krka | oh... select is from 5.1? |
| 08:50.53 | Adirelle|Work | ckknight: cow tip uses dogtag ? |
| 08:50.54 | Kirkburn | Madly running about town |
| 08:51.01 | wobin | krka: I'm pretty sure, no? |
| 08:51.03 | ckknight | syeren: [Target:ClassColor#mouseovertarget] |
| 08:51.07 | ckknight | yes, Adirelle|Work |
| 08:51.07 | krka | i really dont know |
| 08:51.14 | wobin | I know it wasn't around previously |
| 08:51.15 | Adirelle|Work | \o/ hooraa |
| 08:51.27 | krka | Roartindon: it doesnt have to be a global lookup |
| 08:51.38 | Roartindon | krka: It can be local cached, but it's a function call regardless |
| 08:51.45 | krka | yes |
| 08:51.56 | wobin | Roartindon: Surely for a return of that size, select would be better? |
| 08:52.18 | krka | wobin: it isn't really |
| 08:52.19 | Roartindon | wobin: Well, let me pastey a lua disassembly for comparison |
| 08:52.27 | Kirkburn | (Ahab Wheathoof's quest - http://www.thottbot.com/q11129) |
| 08:52.42 | krka | it's fairly close in speed though, so i'd go with select for clarity |
| 08:53.01 | syeren | I love this addon already ckknight, now make a Cow's face Icon :p |
| 08:53.07 | pb_ee1 | Help... I'm working on three AddOns at the same time. Could someone give me 10 more hours per day please? :( |
| 08:53.16 | wobin | Kirkburn: He should say "Ahar... Go harpoon me dog!" |
| 08:53.25 | ckknight | syeren: you do it! |
| 08:53.31 | ckknight | honestly, I couldn't find a good cow face |
| 08:53.33 | vhaarr | krka: I know _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,texture = GetItemInfo(tonumber(itemId)); doesn't matter for speed, it's just that it looks -bad- |
| 08:53.36 | ckknight | so I went with cow splotches |
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| 08:53.43 | xystic | pb_ee1: How much are you being paid for all three addons? |
| 08:53.53 | pb_ee1 | xystic: Hummmm |
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| 08:53.57 | pb_ee1 | Nothing? :p |
| 08:54.07 | abbat_w | are CowTip allow to show tooltip uder mouse cursor, not at bottom right place? |
| 08:54.08 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r41015 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 08:54.08 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:54.08 | CIA-22 | - minor bug fixes |
| 08:54.09 | xystic | pb_ee1: Then you do not need 10 more hours in a day. :P |
| 08:54.13 | abbat_w | like tinytip do |
| 08:54.15 | ckknight | abbat_w: you choose position. |
| 08:54.15 | pb_ee1 | snif :'( |
| 08:54.22 | ckknight | abbat_w: by default, yes, under cursor |
| 08:54.26 | abbat_w | nice |
| 08:54.33 | Roartindon | wobin: http://ace.pastey.net/58341 |
| 08:54.45 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar just asks me to make a module for Prat, and i'd really like to do it (for the challenge), but i'm not sure i have the time |
| 08:54.56 | xystic | ah |
| 08:55.01 | pb_ee1 | I'm working on the roster (addon + website) of my guild atm and it takes a _lot_ of time |
| 08:55.12 | ckknight | pb_ee1: I'm working on 4 addons (FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip), as well as Ace2, as well as about 15 libraries, as well as about 10 plugins for FuBar, as well as a few other addons here and there |
| 08:55.20 | ckknight | thusly: quit yer bitchin' |
| 08:55.23 | pb_ee1 | I was thinking about making it available for the whole community, moreover :| |
| 08:55.26 | TheKarn | ckknight, would it be possible to have an option in cart to arange the instances by level instead of alphabetically |
| 08:55.27 | TheKarn | ? |
| 08:55.37 | xystic | I'm working only on what I get paid to work on... which doesn't leave much time for leisure programming (or WoW) |
| 08:55.39 | wobin | Roartindon: So effectively the same thing but with a functioncall on top |
| 08:55.40 | ckknight | TheKarn: that'd be tough, but I like it. |
| 08:55.48 | ckknight | TheKarn: I will see what I can do. |
| 08:55.49 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: yes, but you're not a human ckknight. Everybody knows you come from another planet :D |
| 08:55.55 | TheKarn | ckknight tyvm |
| 08:55.56 | ckknight | I come from Canada |
| 08:56.00 | ckknight | American now! |
| 08:56.06 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: See? I was right (lol) |
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| 08:56.11 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 your addon is cool, and it'd benefit from Prat and Prat would benefit from it |
| 08:56.12 | wobin | He's a Canadian, from Canadia |
| 08:56.14 | ckknight | my previous blue blood has been curdled into a nice rich red |
| 08:56.19 | Silviu- | ckknight can u update border color at OnShow? |
| 08:56.26 | ckknight | Silviu-: is there issues? |
| 08:56.33 | Roartindon | wobin: Yep, select is an extra function call... the multiple return values is efficient enough as they're all discarded, apart from the texture one. |
| 08:56.35 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: sure, and again i'd be happy to make something for Prat :P |
| 08:56.37 | ckknight | are* |
| 08:56.37 | Silviu- | Yes like with background |
| 08:56.54 | wobin | although select is less prone to coder error =) |
| 08:56.55 | Silviu- | Same issue |
| 08:56.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41016 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - update border color at OnShow |
| 08:56.57 | Roartindon | wobin: Personally, I'd probably use select for readability, unless it were commonly called code |
| 08:57.02 | Roartindon | wobin: Yeah |
| 08:57.02 | xystic | I would like to get back into WoW soon though, when work eases up... need to find a server with guilds willing to take an inexperienced tank into Karazhan |
| 08:57.10 | Silviu- | Thx :) |
| 08:57.22 | xystic | sylvanaar: What is Prat, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 08:57.29 | ckknight | xystic: I decided to piggy-back Antiarc's guild, even with my 39 pally |
| 08:57.33 | wobin | xystic: chat mod |
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| 08:58.10 | sylvanaar | xystic its a addon which provides basic services to chatmods |
| 08:58.16 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: now I must check what have already been done in Prat and add only the things coming from ChatLog that haven't. Good news btw: i checked with FuBar_PerformanceFu, ChatLog nearly uses no resources |
| 08:58.36 | CIA-22 | 03thekarn * r41017 10/branches/SanityItemCache/SanityItemCacheAPI.lua: |
| 08:58.36 | CIA-22 | SanityItemCache: |
| 08:58.36 | CIA-22 | Changed some API. I think i'm the only one using it in an addon at the moment anyway ;) |
| 08:58.36 | pb_ee1 | A bit too much memory though :( |
| 08:58.38 | Fin | pb_ee1: what does your addon do? |
| 08:58.53 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ChatLog |
| 08:58.56 | Fin | aha |
| 08:59.00 | Fin | spiff! |
| 08:59.20 | pb_ee1 | (And http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3198/ for screenshots) |
| 08:59.40 | xystic | ah, ChatLog seems pretty cool |
| 09:00.02 | Fin | pb_ee1: could you incorporate some sort of SMCT-like functionality to it? actually maybe it could be on top of ChatLog somehow |
| 09:00.06 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41018 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: AceLibrary usage fix |
| 09:00.19 | xystic | ckknight: What does that entail? (both getting into, and piggybacking, his guild) |
| 09:00.27 | pb_ee1 | What the hell is SMCT? :P |
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| 09:00.30 | Fin | oh, sorry |
| 09:00.31 | Fin | heh |
| 09:01.09 | ckknight | xystic: well, I dunno, I'm a good guy, at least on the same asshole level as everyone else seems to be |
| 09:01.12 | Fin | it's System Message Control Tool, it allows quite fine-grained specification of where certain types of chat messages appear - which chat frames etc. |
| 09:01.14 | Kirkburn | Aww, even Kyle the wolf has a unique woof! |
| 09:01.19 | ckknight | xystic: also, I'm not raiding |
| 09:01.22 | ckknight | xystic: so I dunno |
| 09:01.23 | Fin | +pb_ee1 |
| 09:01.26 | Kirkburn | Woof, woof! he says |
| 09:01.35 | pb_ee1 | Fin: Is it ace'd? :P |
| 09:01.42 | Fin | pb_ee1: nope |
| 09:01.42 | xystic | pb_ee1: The content that is saved in the file, is that just the 1000 most recent lines... or everything? |
| 09:01.42 | Iceroth | prat getting chatlog module or what? |
| 09:01.59 | sylvanaar | it has the auto chatlog on/off module |
| 09:02.00 | Fin | pb_ee1: people have been requesting it for a while and I've promised to add it... |
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| 09:02.04 | pb_ee1 | xystic: 1000 lines for EACH chat (recently downgraded to 250, but you can put it back to 1000) |
| 09:02.26 | sylvanaar | which it totally different |
| 09:02.29 | Fin | I'm stills stuggling with my genetic disability disease virus, though |
| 09:02.51 | wobin | Fin: You're writing one? |
| 09:02.53 | wobin | oO |
| 09:03.02 | Fin | wobin: I said I would, and I've got half of it written |
| 09:03.12 | wobin | Wow, I thought I tried some tough projects |
| 09:03.21 | pb_ee1 | Fin: What did they request? |
| 09:03.25 | Fin | wobin: SMCT's author said I could rip off a bunch of his code (mainly the classification bits) |
| 09:03.29 | NeoTron | Void Reaver dead |
| 09:03.31 | wobin | A genetic disability disease virus =) |
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| 09:03.39 | NeoTron | took a bit more tries than I liked (6 wipes) but not too bad |
| 09:03.59 | Fin | pb_ee1: a module for Prat that does the same as SMCT - allow you to specify where particular types of chat messages go properly |
| 09:04.04 | Firik | you mean free loot reaver |
| 09:04.19 | xystic | Free loot reaver? |
| 09:04.20 | Fin | wobin: I'm not claiming that it's exactly a breeze to figure out, though! |
| 09:04.30 | Silviu- | ckknight in future u will add option to use SharedMedia`s fonts ? |
| 09:04.31 | Firik | yeah, void reaver is soo easy |
| 09:04.42 | ckknight | Silviu-: oh, I don't see why not. |
| 09:04.54 | ckknight | Silviu-: add it to the wish list :-P |
| 09:05.01 | Silviu- | Where ? ;) |
| 09:05.05 | ckknight | http://wowace.com/wiki/CowTip/Wish_List |
| 09:05.06 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:05.12 | Silviu- | Okay :) |
| 09:05.16 | ckknight | stick it under likely |
| 09:05.26 | pb_ee1 | Fin: Ho I see, your addon lets the user put some specific SYSTEM messages in the chat frames that you choose? |
| 09:05.28 | Fin | wobin: it's my parent's fault, they didn't give me enough sunlight and freedom as a child |
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| 09:05.38 | wobin | ckknight: |
| 09:05.47 | ckknight | wobin: |
| 09:05.47 | wobin | The links on CowTip still point to PitBull |
| 09:05.54 | ckknight | srsly? |
| 09:05.54 | ckknight | damn |
| 09:05.56 | wobin | for the faq etc |
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| 09:06.38 | ckknight | thanks |
| 09:06.39 | ckknight | fixed |
| 09:06.42 | Fin | pb_ee1: well, I guess it depends on what you mean by SYSTEM, but it also allows you to choose the chat frames for message types like "loot rules" and stuff |
| 09:06.54 | nadas | hmm, one of my addons is keeping me from closing my social window while in combat :o |
| 09:07.03 | nadas | freaky |
| 09:07.05 | pb_ee1 | Actually, if i had the time, i would also log combat messages in chatlog the same way SCT does, make a module for prat, add the functionnalities of SMCT and add a search function :D |
| 09:07.39 | Kirkburn | Btw, you really shouldn'y be using level one headers on wiki pages |
| 09:07.40 | pb_ee1 | fin: I see, very nice addon |
| 09:07.52 | Kirkburn | H1 should ONLY be used once on a page, and that's the page title |
| 09:07.56 | pb_ee1 | Fin: Atm, ChatLog logs all those messages in the "SYSTEM" tab |
| 09:07.58 | Fin | pb_ee1: it's mostly system stuff though, yeh (bit like the right click menu where you can choose what types of combat messages are displayed in a frame, just with a more well defined set of categories, and I would think hopefully extensible) |
| 09:08.13 | Kirkburn | So the = Likely = should be == Likely == |
| 09:08.16 | Fin | pb_ee1: that's why I thought maybe on top of ChatLog rather than as part of it |
| 09:08.22 | Kirkburn | (@ ckk and others :) |
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| 09:08.31 | TheKarn | "(the name is funny, laugh.)" ... |
| 09:08.35 | ckknight | Kirkburn: yea, probably. |
| 09:08.40 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 im just saying can you try to integrate the stuff your mod does currently with Prat |
| 09:08.44 | TheKarn | i still think my addon's name is better :P |
| 09:08.51 | Fin | http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/1132159577smct_01.jpg |
| 09:08.53 | Kirkburn | Not "probably", certainly :P We had to spend ages fixing WoWWiki :D |
| 09:08.54 | ckknight | TheKarn: which? |
| 09:09.09 | TheKarn | InSanity - addon that searches in SanityItemCache |
| 09:09.10 | Fin | the author is no longer playing WoW, btw |
| 09:09.23 | Kirkburn | Well, by ages, I mean a few hours. Okay, fine, we botted it. |
| 09:10.34 | NeoTron | BTW I disables minnastats/swstats and DoTimer and all performance issues went away |
| 09:10.40 | Fin | phew, you guys certainly don't shy away from a bit of hard workerr waiting, eh? :P |
| 09:10.40 | NeoTron | pretty ure dotimer was the main culprit |
| 09:11.10 | Silviu- | ckknight done ;) |
| 09:11.46 | ckknight | ravagernl: *shrug* fine |
| 09:11.47 | NeoTron | need to find a good replacement. one I tested tended to overlap timers.. |
| 09:12.20 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: what i think could be _very_ cool is to restore the logs in the chatframes when you log in. But how would you see the implemnentation of the other functionnalities of chatlog? (i.e. reading the logs separately, ...) |
| 09:12.25 | ravagernl | ckknight: even wowwiki's example for SetBackdrop says 4 instead of 5 :P |
| 09:12.57 | Fin | pb_ee1: also restoring input history as well :) |
| 09:13.07 | pb_ee1 | You mean? |
| 09:13.17 | pb_ee1 | Ha I see |
| 09:13.23 | pb_ee1 | Alt + Up arrow? :p |
| 09:13.24 | Fin | so that you can press the up arrow key and it'll show what you last typed in your previous session |
| 09:13.27 | Fin | eg |
| 09:13.31 | Fin | yes |
| 09:13.32 | Fin | :) |
| 09:13.33 | Iceroth | would be handly when debugging stuff and reloading ui constantly |
| 09:13.38 | Iceroth | -l |
| 09:13.40 | pb_ee1 | Sure |
| 09:13.41 | TheKarn | hmm WAU saying 1.9 is out but its no on the sf.net page |
| 09:13.52 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41019 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: playernames: Only update the guild classes if the roster actually changes. |
| 09:13.52 | pb_ee1 | TheKarn: Check below ;p |
| 09:14.01 | TheKarn | ah found it ;) |
| 09:14.02 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 be your own mod, but work with prat if you can |
| 09:14.05 | TheKarn | lol hiding it |
| 09:14.37 | Fin | hmm |
| 09:15.03 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 i posted a response on a first step |
| 09:15.23 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: i've seen that. I'll have to work a lot on the addon to see how I'll implement everything :P |
| 09:15.39 | Silviu- | sylvanaar any ideea when 2.0 will be out ? |
| 09:15.53 | TheKarn | oh my, it just took 7 seconds to draw the thread status boxes |
| 09:15.55 | Silviu- | sylvanaar Wau2 i mean :) |
| 09:15.58 | sylvanaar | if you saved the frame names with the events you could restore the chatframes |
| 09:16.04 | pb_ee1 | d'oh, i added 40 hours to my todo list in 15 minutes. That's insane |
| 09:16.16 | sylvanaar | Silviu- thats not my project, its KTP's |
| 09:16.33 | sylvanaar | they released the public beta today |
| 09:17.34 | Fin | pb_ee1: I recently added 15 minutes to my todo list over a period of 40 hours |
| 09:17.50 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 09:18.12 | Silviu- | sylvanaar link ? ;) |
| 09:18.43 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: sorry for this last question, but would you like to see _in_ prat (thus, outside of the chatlog frame)? only the "restore at login" functionnality? |
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| 09:20.26 | NeoTron | so it kind of makes you sad when you see other VR kill son WWS that has like 14000 raid dps.. compared to our 8400ish :P |
| 09:21.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41020 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add option to change font of the tooltip. |
| 09:21.07 | ckknight | gah, Silviu-! |
| 09:21.14 | ckknight | Silviu-: sign your damn wiki entries! |
| 09:21.19 | Silviu- | ckknight srry :P |
| 09:21.21 | Silviu- | and thx :) |
| 09:21.31 | Iceroth | what addon shows raid dps? |
| 09:21.37 | Silviu- | ckknight second time i edit a wiki .. ;) |
| 09:21.45 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 logging the text formatted |
| 09:21.55 | TheKarn | Anyone use SanityBags? |
| 09:22.10 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: sure |
| 09:22.33 | pb_ee1 | Ho I see, then if you have prat, you log the text in a formatted way AND you restore at login |
| 09:22.34 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 09:22.40 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 yeah |
| 09:22.43 | pb_ee1 | It is really a cool idea, i like it ^_^ |
| 09:24.05 | ckknight | Silviu-: srsly, sign your entries. |
| 09:24.14 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 registering that one event, and storing the chatframe ID's is all you'd need to be able to restore them |
| 09:24.50 | Kirkburn | You need an {{unsigned|Moo}} template |
| 09:25.05 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Yep, I need to change a few things on the code but it is less complicated than I thought |
| 09:25.12 | pb_ee1 | I've added a todo/wish list on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ChatLog |
| 09:26.20 | Silviu- | ckknight like so ? |
| 09:26.47 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 Prat assigns events a unique ID since ckknight woulnd't do it. Prat.EVENT_ID so you know which events are unique and which are just the same one on a different frame |
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| 09:27.25 | ckknight | unique ID? |
| 09:27.36 | ckknight | no, Silviu- |
| 09:27.45 | ckknight | Silviu-: remove your name and instead put --~~~~ |
| 09:27.52 | Silviu- | Okay |
| 09:27.54 | ckknight | like how it shows in the box at the top |
| 09:28.05 | ckknight | A longer description would go here. --~~~~ |
| 09:28.10 | sylvanaar | yes each time you get an event you increment a counter |
| 09:28.12 | ckknight | I think this would be a useful feature because _____ --~~~~ |
| 09:28.35 | ckknight | sylvanaar: that's unnecessary in most cases... |
| 09:28.41 | Silviu- | ckknight done, thx |
| 09:29.19 | pb_ee1 | sag_ich_nicht: I'll add the chatlog button back again in the next release |
| 09:29.35 | Fin | can you easily copy & paste from ChatLog? |
| 09:30.04 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: I see, thanks ;p |
| 09:30.19 | sylvanaar | ckknight tell me how you would associate an event with a print line on a chatframe so that you could respond to the event just once if any of the chatframes printed text as a result |
| 09:30.26 | Fin | one module of sylvanaar's I use all the time is the ChatCopy - actually a lot of the time just to see scrollback more easily without having to resize my chat frames (I hide the chat tabs, so resizing involves showing them, resizing, reading, resizing back, then hiding tabs again) |
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| 09:30.36 | Fin | I think it's syl's anyway |
| 09:30.38 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I said most cases, not all |
| 09:31.01 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41021 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: |
| 09:31.01 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 09:31.01 | CIA-22 | - Report To channels in the menu are colored according to their chat channel color |
| 09:31.14 | sylvanaar | ckknight its a common case for me |
| 09:31.26 | pb_ee1 | Fin: ChatCopy is also contained in ChatLog ;) |
| 09:31.38 | Fin | why am I not surprised |
| 09:31.43 | pb_ee1 | :P |
| 09:32.42 | Silviu- | ckknight i also added an screenshot to forum u can add it if u want to wiki |
| 09:32.44 | sylvanaar | Fin chatlog is not chatframe based though |
| 09:33.56 | pb_ee1 | Nope |
| 09:33.59 | sylvanaar | Fin its chat only |
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| 09:34.09 | pb_ee1 | I think I'll have to change everything agani |
| 09:34.19 | pb_ee1 | at the moment it creates a structure for each chat |
| 09:34.29 | pb_ee1 | one for general, one for whisp, one for, .... |
| 09:34.37 | pb_ee1 | suppose that a message is printed on two chats |
| 09:34.42 | pb_ee1 | I'll log it twice |
| 09:34.47 | pb_ee1 | stupid |
| 09:34.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41022 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - color the name and target their class color by default. |
| 09:34.57 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 thats what i meant by not being chatframe based |
| 09:35.27 | pb_ee1 | yep i know, and this IS a problem: i cannot, at the moment, restore chats in the chatframes because of this |
| 09:35.41 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 use the Prat.EVENT_ID, just remember which chatframes output that ID |
| 09:36.03 | Fin | hmm |
| 09:36.08 | pb_ee1 | I chose not to do it for a main reason: suppose that the user moves its addons to a new computer and that on this one the chatframes do not exist anymore |
| 09:36.13 | pb_ee1 | -> problem :p |
| 09:36.21 | sylvanaar | not really |
| 09:36.32 | sylvanaar | your addon would still work |
| 09:37.07 | sylvanaar | im not saying to change your addon, just add to it a bit |
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| 09:37.12 | pb_ee1 | sure ;) |
| 09:37.28 | sylvanaar | log the Prat.EVENT_ID for each chat message you log |
| 09:37.50 | pb_ee1 | is there in prat an ID for each chatframe, that does _not_ change even if the user changes the name of the chatframe? |
| 09:37.57 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 09:38.00 | pb_ee1 | cool |
| 09:38.03 | sylvanaar | its unique per event |
| 09:38.06 | pb_ee1 | then i've got everything i need :p |
| 09:38.21 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41023 10SimpleChatMods/channelnames.lua: SimpleChatMods: channelnames: Fix the channel regexps. |
| 09:38.22 | sylvanaar | so its the same on frame 1 and frame 7 |
| 09:38.47 | pb_ee1 | ok |
| 09:38.50 | sylvanaar | the chatframe names dont change |
| 09:39.06 | sylvanaar | just store frame:GetID() |
| 09:39.25 | pb_ee1 | I'll go into this when i'll be back at home (i'm at work) |
| 09:39.38 | pb_ee1 | But please just note that i'll finish the roster before starting anything on chatlog :P |
| 09:39.47 | sylvanaar | sure |
| 09:39.53 | Fin | roster? |
| 09:40.26 | pb_ee1 | http://roster.lords-zodiac.com/ and http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LZProfiler/ |
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| 09:41.10 | pb_ee1 | I wanted something very light and quick for a roster. And more important: that could be able to manage frFR AND enUS at the same time |
| 09:41.30 | pb_ee1 | Users can upload data in frFR or enUS, and when you search for something it displays both |
| 09:41.45 | Fin | bien |
| 09:41.58 | pb_ee1 | ex: http://roster.lords-zodiac.com/tradeskills.php?trade=alchemy&s=chromatic%20resistance |
| 09:42.57 | pb_ee1 | i've finally understood how to link frFR and enUS enchantements (couldn't before), and i'll add a few other things to it in the next days |
| 09:43.18 | Fin | nono, it's healthy spam! |
| 09:43.25 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41024 10RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua: RangeCheck: AceLibrary usage fix |
| 09:43.26 | Fin | nice refreshing new energetic addon author spam! |
| 09:43.45 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 09:43.52 | Fin | not cynical jaded ace2 lib author spam |
| 09:44.49 | pb_ee1 | Ace2 is bad. I'm at work. I should have been working for 2 hours now. :( |
| 09:45.21 | Iceroth | join the club :p |
| 09:45.25 | Fin | that's just your brain subconsciously telling you that you deserve a break |
| 09:45.37 | pb_ee1 | A 2 hours break? :P |
| 09:45.51 | Fin | I'm sure you've been working very hard recently, and your boss is just too unkind to give you the recreation time you deserve |
| 09:45.56 | Fin | oh, sure, it all adds up you know |
| 09:45.58 | Fin | you'd be surprised |
| 09:46.23 | Fin | 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there, an evening phone call one week, a shortened lunch break the next |
| 09:46.33 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r41025 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 09:46.33 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:46.33 | CIA-22 | - Updated the non set epics with the new items. |
| 09:46.45 | pb_ee1 | ^^ |
| 09:46.46 | Fin | yup, 2 hours is probably just the tip of iceberg |
| 09:47.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41026 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix bug that would make an empty tooltip appear. |
| 09:49.38 | pb_ee1 | Fin: That's right, but I should work more than that. At least, i'm not playing at some games, coding is still some work ;) |
| 09:50.13 | Iceroth | i think i should start my summer vacation just about now |
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| 09:52.31 | Fin | pb_ee1: see, now you're getting the hang of it! |
| 09:52.47 | pb_ee1 | Hehe :p |
| 09:52.59 | Fin | pb_ee1: once you put your mind to it, I think you'll find there are far more excuses for slacking than you might've imagined |
| 09:53.00 | mitch0 | I need some clarification on AceLibrary usage: 1) X registers Foo-1.0/minor1, Y requests Foo-1.0, Z registers Foo-1.0/minor2. if Y calls into Foo-1.0, will he call into minor1 or minor2 instance? (I'm guessing the latter, but I'm not quite sure) |
| 09:53.01 | pb_ee1 | Chatting on IRC also improves my English ^_^ |
| 09:53.14 | krka | weird... it makes mine worse |
| 09:53.19 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 09:53.20 | Fin | your English doesn't strike me as needing much improvement |
| 09:53.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41027 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - fix threat |
| 09:53.40 | krka | Fin: orly? |
| 09:53.53 | Fin | +pb_ee1: |
| 09:53.53 | pb_ee1 | bah, for "normal" sentences it's ok, but when I try to talk about complex things, it becomes really horrible ^_^ |
| 09:54.09 | Fin | that's like my Czech |
| 09:54.12 | Fin | only better |
| 09:54.20 | pb_ee1 | :) |
| 09:54.22 | ckknight | mitch0: they're the same instance, minor1's data gets scrapped, basically, and replaced with minor2's |
| 09:54.48 | mitch0 | ckk: ah ok, then I'm doing something stupid in RangeCheck-1.0's activate() :) |
| 09:54.57 | ckknight | pastey |
| 09:55.17 | mitch0 | actually, not just in activate. sec |
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| 09:57.33 | mitch0 | ckk: http://ace.pastey.net/58425 |
| 09:58.10 | pb_ee1 | ~pastey |
| 09:58.11 | purl | i guess pastey is the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. http://norganna.pastey.net Insert the text, press the 'Paste' button, and post the resulting URL in here. |
| 09:58.35 | ckknight | mitch0: don't do self.oldLib = oldLib |
| 09:58.38 | pb_ee1 | thanks purl |
| 09:58.43 | mitch0 | basically, I'm reusing a frame from oldLib and I thought I needed to forward the events to oldLib. but I guess oldLib will never get called |
| 09:58.43 | ckknight | mitch0: oldLib is destroyed after activate() |
| 09:59.06 | mitch0 | ok,thanks. I didn't think at first that AceLib did such a deep job :) |
| 09:59.17 | ckknight | fully with recursion |
| 10:00.01 | Fin | AND EXTREME PREJUDICE |
| 10:00.11 | Fin | naughty frames |
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| 10:00.52 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41028 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: AceLibrary is deeper than I thought |
| 10:02.10 | ravagernl | ckknight: what's export layout in pitbull? |
| 10:02.40 | ckknight | you can read the forums |
| 10:02.53 | ckknight | or ask someone else |
| 10:02.54 | ckknight | I'm busy |
| 10:03.44 | Fin | ckknight: it's a way of exporting layouts so people can share them easily via forums and stuff |
| 10:03.44 | wobin | oh man |
| 10:03.46 | wobin | hurrah! |
| 10:03.51 | pb_ee1 | *ckknight crits ravagernl for 125 684 damage* |
| 10:03.51 | wobin | sorting working again in MrPlow =P |
| 10:03.51 | Fin | er |
| 10:03.55 | ckknight | Fin: redirect to ravagernl |
| 10:03.55 | Fin | -ckknight |
| 10:04.01 | Fin | +ravagernl |
| 10:04.15 | wobin | >< |
| 10:04.22 | wobin | why do I read ravagernl as Raven Girl? |
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| 10:04.32 | ravagernl | lol |
| 10:04.48 | Fin | I think it's because it's got "vag" in it |
| 10:04.53 | Fin | dirty |
| 10:04.54 | wobin | Must be =P |
| 10:04.59 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 10:05.08 | wobin | Cause I obviously read Fin as Fanny |
| 10:05.28 | Fin | Fanny Golightly |
| 10:05.43 | pb_ee1 | And what do you think of my nickname? (lol) |
| 10:05.45 | ravagernl | Ah http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 I was hoping that already |
| 10:05.46 | Fin | (said the vicar to the nun) |
| 10:06.08 | wobin | hm |
| 10:06.10 | wobin | peel =P |
| 10:06.22 | Fin | it's a bit difficult to type if you have to type it |
| 10:06.28 | Fin | bit fiddly |
| 10:06.32 | wobin | I must have some "take the first and last letters and guess the rest" syndrome |
| 10:06.35 | Fin | I'd give it a 5.4 |
| 10:06.50 | Sais | Lead. Eleectrical Engineering 1 |
| 10:06.56 | Sais | s/ee/e/ |
| 10:07.10 | pb_ee1 | lol, don't search for "pb_ee1" on google |
| 10:07.31 | pb_ee1 | You'll know all the sites on which I post regularly o:) |
| 10:07.33 | Sais | Something to do "only at home"? |
| 10:07.36 | Fin | doesn't pb mean iron or something? wait, that's fe... pb's something tho |
| 10:07.42 | Sais | pb = lead |
| 10:07.43 | roxorzboxorz | rawr |
| 10:07.48 | roxorzboxorz | lol :P |
| 10:07.50 | Sais | heance my comment |
| 10:07.52 | Sais | -a |
| 10:07.55 | Fin | pee bee eeeeeeeeewun |
| 10:07.58 | wobin | Your search - pb_eel - did not match any documents. |
| 10:07.58 | yacoob | Plumbium. |
| 10:07.59 | Sais | gah. typing. attrocious. |
| 10:08.00 | Kirkburn | Fin = Fanny Craddock in disguise. No, I don't expect you to know who Fanncy Craddock is/was. No, I won't tell you. Yes, Google her. |
| 10:08.28 | Fin | Kirkburn: whoever she was, she had a fantastic name! |
| 10:08.41 | Kirkburn | *Cradock, apparently |
| 10:08.44 | Kirkburn | She sure did! |
| 10:08.49 | Fin | I'm Fincognito |
| 10:09.03 | Kirkburn | You could visit Fanny's Kitchen |
| 10:09.12 | Fin | ooh, for some steaming hot pies I bet |
| 10:09.18 | Fin | or perhaps a nice fresh muffin |
| 10:09.26 | Fin | mmm |
| 10:09.33 | wobin | Doughnuts like Fanny's is the best documentary title ever |
| 10:09.46 | pb_ee1 | well actually pb_ee1 comes from an electronic object |
| 10:09.48 | pb_ee1 | just give me a sec ;p |
| 10:10.12 | pb_ee1 | http://www.top-copy.com/goods/400sharppbee1.jpg |
| 10:10.17 | pb_ee1 | Just look at the bottom ^_^ |
| 10:11.01 | Fin | why do so many people carry around trout these days? |
| 10:11.14 | pb_ee1 | Hummm |
| 10:11.21 | Fisker-- | i got a brown trout |
| 10:11.22 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41029 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:11.26 | wobin | ew |
| 10:11.29 | wobin | wash your trout |
| 10:11.30 | Fin | I've got a brand new combine harvester |
| 10:11.32 | wobin | after you use it |
| 10:11.40 | wobin | My hovercraft is full of eels |
| 10:11.44 | *** join/#wowace beerke (n=beerke@5353E179.cable.casema.nl) |
| 10:11.45 | Fin | ~/o and I'll give you the keys! o/~ |
| 10:11.54 | Fisker-- | i c wat u did ther |
| 10:12.08 | Fin | what? |
| 10:12.27 | Kirkburn | Argh, Fulgorge, I hate you! http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18678#M0z |
| 10:13.23 | Elkano | ~seen nymbia |
| 10:13.42 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@75-166-29-251.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 6h 56m 23s ago, saying: 'there will be smiting!'. |
| 10:14.05 | pb_ee1 | ~seen purl |
| 10:14.06 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (1h 52m 48s) #botpark (1h 52m 48s) #linuxfund (1h 52m 48s) #wowi-lounge (1h 52m 48s) #edev (1h 52m 48s) #fossfund (1h 52m 48s) #hosernet (1h 52m 48s) #norganna (1h 52m 48s) #ud (1h 52m 48s) #dub (1h 52m 48s) #teleconf (1h 52m 48s) #openezx (1h 52m 48s) ... |
| 10:14.19 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 10:14.24 | Fin | I wish purl would respond with that old joke "yep, he's about, ohhh, so high, brown hair, nice fella" for ~seen, just once |
| 10:14.58 | pb_ee1 | purl, ~seen is not an available command. |
| 10:14.58 | purl | pb_ee1: okay |
| 10:15.05 | pb_ee1 | ~seen |
| 10:15.12 | Fin | ~seen pb_ee1 |
| 10:15.13 | purl | pb_ee1 is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 92 messages. Is idling for 8s, last said: '~seen'. |
| 10:15.22 | pb_ee1 | gaah |
| 10:16.35 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r41030 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PopupMessage.lua: Prat: Fix the popup message color - it was not getting set before the text was set. |
| 10:16.45 | ravagernl | ~pitbull |
| 10:16.46 | purl | it has been said that pitbull is a unitframe designed to be as efficient as possible while still havinga lot of customization, and it being made by ckknight and others. IMBA. |
| 10:16.46 | Mikk | Hrm... Can we have a "Stop feeding Kenco" in the topic? :S |
| 10:16.56 | ckknight | lol |
| 10:17.03 | Mikk | It's pretty obvious he doesn't want to listen to anyone. At all. |
| 10:17.04 | ravagernl | ~cowtip |
| 10:17.18 | Kirkburn | Mikk, someone was on #wowwiki earlier asking about Wowbench (they left I think) |
| 10:17.40 | Kirkburn | ~~ |
| 10:17.40 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 10:17.44 | Mikk | Kirkburn: Cheers. Still horribly out of date. But I _have_ started working on it again :P |
| 10:17.51 | Kirkburn | Cor blimey :) |
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| 10:18.10 | Adirelle|Wor1 | nevcairiel: ping ? |
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| 10:18.42 | ravagernl | purl, cowtip is a tooltip that moos at you. |
| 10:18.43 | purl | ravagernl: okay |
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| 10:19.08 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r41031 10ArkInventory/ (4 files): |
| 10:19.08 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 10:19.08 | CIA-22 | - really fixed the closetgnome outfit code |
| 10:19.14 | ckknight | purl, cowtip also grazes your pastures. |
| 10:19.29 | Fin | is the KLTHM thread still going?! |
| 10:19.29 | ckknight | wait, that doesn't work |
| 10:20.07 | wobin | Fin: I'd hope to god, not |
| 10:20.19 | Fin | cowtip is the most fun you can have with an addon in the middle of the night out in the countryside! |
| 10:20.35 | pb_ee1 | purl, cowtip is also a tooltip that grazes your pastures. |
| 10:20.35 | purl | pb_ee1: okay |
| 10:20.35 | wobin | Cowtipping is actually harder than one would envisage |
| 10:20.48 | pb_ee1 | humm |
| 10:20.49 | wobin | They're heavy buggers |
| 10:20.54 | Kirkburn | ~~~ |
| 10:20.54 | purl | I HATE YOU, kirkburn!!! |
| 10:20.57 | pb_ee1 | it'll say "tooltip" twice |
| 10:20.59 | ravagernl | ~cowtip |
| 10:20.59 | purl | it has been said that cowtip is a tooltip that moos at you. a tooltip that grazes your pastures. |
| 10:21.05 | CIA-22 | 03elkano * r41032 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:21.05 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 10:21.05 | CIA-22 | - fixed some filters in dataminer |
| 10:21.05 | CIA-22 | - fixed some tabs in data |
| 10:21.06 | Fin | they're a lot lighter if you've had 12 pints and half a bottle of jack daniels |
| 10:21.09 | ravagernl | haha |
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| 10:21.28 | wobin | Fin: Actually they're a lot lighter if -they've- had 12 pints and half a bottle of JD |
| 10:21.56 | Fin | wobin: why on earth would I give any of my JD to a cow?! |
| 10:21.56 | Kirkburn | What, dead? |
| 10:21.58 | Fin | actually |
| 10:22.01 | Imp4kT | Is there a mod available to change how the messages that appear in the top middle of your screen look? |
| 10:22.09 | Fin | I suppose the other half bottle might be why |
| 10:22.14 | Imp4kT | Like "Not enough energy" messages |
| 10:22.15 | wobin | It's true |
| 10:22.26 | wobin | It's so you can ask "Why is all the rum gone?" |
| 10:22.32 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 10:24.31 | Adirelle|Work | Imp4kT: errormonster and/or quietcast |
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| 10:24.57 | ravagernl | purl, cowtip is also the most efficient and customizable tooltip addon as of this moment ( june 2007 ) |
| 10:24.58 | purl | ravagernl: okay |
| 10:25.50 | wobin | er |
| 10:25.51 | wobin | no it isn't |
| 10:25.59 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41033 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ClosetGnome_Tooltip.toc: ClosetGnome_Tooltip: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:26.06 | wobin | purl, forget about cowtip |
| 10:26.06 | purl | wobin: i didn't have anything called 'about cowtip' to forget |
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| 10:26.10 | wobin | purl, forget cowtip |
| 10:26.10 | purl | wobin: i forgot cowtip |
| 10:26.19 | Imp4kT | Adirelle|Work, but I want to change what they look like, change the font |
| 10:26.48 | sylvanaar | Fin what do you think i should do with the enabled modules and the module control menus now that Mikk added that nice group click feature? |
| 10:27.20 | Mikk | Remember that you can't rely on group click alone. |
| 10:27.34 | [Ammo] | Mikk: rightclick report menu! |
| 10:27.37 | Mikk | It won't work in commandline, and it won't work in waterfall. |
| 10:27.38 | [Ammo] | I fixed all the nasty leakage in vio |
| 10:27.47 | sylvanaar | its already been added to the prat menus mikk |
| 10:28.05 | Mikk | Yeah, i'm not saying you shouldn't use it ofc. I'm just saying don't use it alone =) |
| 10:28.13 | Mikk | (But I think we're on the same page here) |
| 10:28.20 | sylvanaar | Mikk prat builds separate options tables for console, fubar, and waterfall |
| 10:28.25 | [Ammo] | oh and underline mikk, underline :) |
| 10:28.25 | Mikk | oho |
| 10:28.30 | [Ammo] | gogoog |
| 10:28.37 | Fin | sylvanaar: when did Mikk add it? since last night? |
| 10:28.43 | Mikk | TWo days agoish |
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| 10:29.29 | sylvanaar | Mikk the group is linked to one of the submenu items |
| 10:29.38 | vrak | hmm, what's the big difference between WAU 1.8.53 and .9.2 ? |
| 10:29.55 | wobin | A group of numbers? |
| 10:30.05 | vrak | heh |
| 10:30.05 | sylvanaar | vrak feature roll up, no difference |
| 10:30.13 | Fin | OK, I confess I don't know what you mean by group click feature, sorry sylvanaar and Mikk |
| 10:30.14 | vrak | ok |
| 10:30.17 | Kirkburn | ~cowtip |
| 10:30.18 | purl | The tooltip addon that goes "moo". It'll graze your pastures. |
| 10:30.28 | Kirkburn | And there we go. |
| 10:30.29 | sylvanaar | Fin run it and look |
| 10:30.54 | Kirkburn | Fin, it's some kinky EU thing no doubt |
| 10:31.00 | Fin | I just did |
| 10:31.03 | Fin | hey, I'm EU! |
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| 10:31.10 | Kirkburn | uuhh |
| 10:31.19 | sylvanaar | Fin look at the FuBar |
| 10:31.20 | Kirkburn | Look over there! |
| 10:31.24 | Method|Shive | hello |
| 10:31.28 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, great backup |
| 10:32.12 | Mikk | Fin: Group click means that you can click dewdrop items that have submenus and have stuff happen |
| 10:32.27 | Fin | I think maybe I need to update |
| 10:32.34 | Mikk | Fin: And no, it isn't obvious at all atm. Which is why I'm adding underline on mouseover |
| 10:32.46 | Fin | OK, that's exactly what I thought it was supposed to be, but it's not working for me atm, so I'm missing something obviously |
| 10:32.50 | Fin | but I swear I updated last night |
| 10:32.52 | sylvanaar | Fin yes update |
| 10:32.59 | sylvanaar | you dewdrop |
| 10:33.05 | Fin | I use embedded |
| 10:33.14 | Fin | I know, silly |
| 10:33.26 | Fin | I know! I know, OK, -10 points to me for being crap |
| 10:33.26 | Kirkburn | ~console sylvanaar |
| 10:33.27 | purl | ACTION gives sylvanaar the consolation moose |
| 10:33.46 | sylvanaar | do you install it yourself fin? |
| 10:33.56 | sylvanaar | if not then delete Prat_libs |
| 10:34.00 | Fin | sylvanaar: I use the SVN for Prat |
| 10:34.07 | sylvanaar | oh yeah right, me too |
| 10:34.58 | Fin | I should install !!! and make sure everything's working OK, but I just know something weird'll go wrong so I never bothered |
| 10:35.17 | sylvanaar | why will something wierd go wrong |
| 10:35.58 | Fin | I don't know yet, but going from embedded to !!! is the type of situation where things seem to like going wrong |
| 10:36.06 | sylvanaar | oic |
| 10:36.09 | Fin | I think it's something to do with the number of things being changed |
| 10:36.24 | Fin | like, over a certain amount and things are more likely to just break in weird and unexpected ways |
| 10:36.31 | Kirkburn | It'll be fine :) |
| 10:36.32 | sylvanaar | i dont know I use (and write) WAU |
| 10:36.38 | Fin | not specific to WoW or anything, just in general |
| 10:36.40 | sylvanaar | 1.x |
| 10:36.52 | Fin | I use WAU as well! just with embedded libs :) |
| 10:36.59 | Kirkburn | Big changes = wooaaaaggghhaaaaaaooooooorrrgggagahahahaaaaaaaach. Ahem. |
| 10:37.03 | Fin | OK, I'll convert, today, but not right now :) |
| 10:37.11 | Fin | something like that, Kirkburn :) |
| 10:37.14 | Method|Shive | i'd like to ask if anyone has solution for WoW freezing up upon loading (not in combat, while in the raid). this is surely casued by addons becouse disabling them all removes the problem. with all addons ace'd (updated) same thing happen. |
| 10:37.21 | sylvanaar | just update prat and look at the menu |
| 10:37.21 | Mikk | Fin: http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat <- delete all embeds that are in !!!SAL |
| 10:37.27 | Kirkburn | That was interpretive screaming. |
| 10:37.46 | Method|Shive | its not only me, alot of people in guild have same problem ;/ |
| 10:37.53 | sylvanaar | Mikk: embeds.xml |
| 10:38.03 | Matrix110 | Method|Shive its a bug caused by Blizzard aswell normally a Addon shouldnt be able to freeze/dc you:P |
| 10:38.07 | Fin | Mikk: oooh! I was actually thinking that I should write a little script like that, cheers |
| 10:38.09 | Mikk | sylvanaar: Hrmmm good point, I should be nilling that out too |
| 10:38.30 | Imp4kT | is ChatHighlighter broken? |
| 10:38.34 | Imp4kT | I cant add things to it :/ |
| 10:38.34 | sylvanaar | Mikk not nilling deleting all child elements of the root element |
| 10:38.37 | Mikk | sylvanaar: Then again, I'd actually have to parse it to only remove stuff I'm deleting shouldn't i ... |
| 10:38.52 | Fin | Method|Shive: which addon is causing the problem? |
| 10:38.53 | Method|Shive | Matrix110 i thought so too becouse it all started after the patch when you couldnt assign memory for your addons |
| 10:39.10 | Method|Shive | there is no certain addon that causes the problem |
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| 10:39.16 | Mikk | sylvanaar: yuck, that's lots of work for a bat =) |
| 10:39.25 | Fin | Method|Shive: have you gone through and disabled and re-enabled them all one by one to check that? |
| 10:39.27 | sylvanaar | Mikk make a document which is just the root element and copy it over each embeds.xml |
| 10:39.43 | Method|Shive | yeah I did. one addon never causes the problems |
| 10:39.43 | Mikk | o.O |
| 10:39.47 | Mikk | Now I'm not following at all |
| 10:39.55 | Fin | Method|Shive: que |
| 10:40.18 | ckknight | Method|Shive: what UF do you use? |
| 10:40.24 | Method|Shive | Grid |
| 10:40.35 | ckknight | could be it |
| 10:40.36 | Method|Shive | and no custom UF for party/self/target |
| 10:40.38 | sylvanaar | open any embeds.xml delete everything inside <UI></UI> |
| 10:40.45 | sylvanaar | save it somewhere |
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| 10:40.57 | Mikk | sylvanaar: ah, THAT root element :> |
| 10:41.02 | Method|Shive | but then again - it all works if i'm not in the raid |
| 10:41.12 | Method|Shive | besides |
| 10:41.25 | Mikk | sylvanaar: problem is, i can't really do that without parsing embeds.xml since I can't be sure everything in it is actually disembedded |
| 10:41.28 | Seyken | hello all, wau has a version 1.9, what's new? :D |
| 10:41.30 | Method|Shive | loading the game without any addons (in the raid), logging off, enabling all addons again, logging back - works |
| 10:41.37 | sylvanaar | thats the point of it |
| 10:41.37 | Method|Shive | :| |
| 10:41.53 | Fin | uhmm |
| 10:42.10 | sylvanaar | Seyken its a feature rollup - 1.9 is the last release |
| 10:42.22 | Fin | well, I've got the latest Prat from the SVN, and nothing's happening when I click a module group in Modules by Category |
| 10:42.42 | sylvanaar | click it in Enabled Modules |
| 10:42.46 | Seyken | sylvanaar: thanks |
| 10:42.52 | sylvanaar | they should have check marks |
| 10:43.19 | Seyken | but i still don't understant why are there "r23907.xxxx" names for example :( |
| 10:43.21 | sylvanaar | Fin i dont know why it doesnt work for you |
| 10:43.23 | Fin | oh! was that not there before? |
| 10:43.31 | sylvanaar | Fin no |
| 10:43.55 | Summoner | sylvanaar: the builds of Prat on files.wowace.com compile without dewdroplib for a few days now, which results in error because fubarplugin requires dewdrop (thus prat does not load) |
| 10:43.56 | Fin | it's not quite module groups yet, I can click a module in Enabled Modules and it'll fade as if disabled, and untick itself on the Favourites list |
| 10:44.16 | Fin | what happened before? did the module just disappear from the Enabled Modules list? |
| 10:44.29 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 10:44.44 | sylvanaar | theres a module control menu |
| 10:44.48 | Fin | I can't enable or disable groups of modules at a time, though - that's what I thought you meant - but that's nifty |
| 10:44.52 | Fisker-- | sylvanaar ! |
| 10:44.59 | Fisker-- | mine doesn't parse index :( |
| 10:45.15 | Mikk | Seyken: Higher number = newer is all you need to know, really. |
| 10:45.23 | sylvanaar | Fisker- cool |
| 10:45.35 | sylvanaar | Fisker- open your temp directory |
| 10:45.36 | Mikk | Seyken: If only the decimals are updating, it means there's no real changes to the addon. It's only incorporating changes in the included libraries. |
| 10:45.58 | sylvanaar | Fisker- go to #WAU |
| 10:46.02 | Mikk | Seyken: Of course, changes to libraries CAN make your addon behave very differently, depending on which library is changing =) |
| 10:46.23 | Seyken | Mikk: okay, i'm keen on updating my addons :D, it's a good habit i think, thanks for all |
| 10:47.02 | Seyken | cool new look in wau 1.9 i think |
| 10:47.41 | sylvanaar | Seyken yeah, i know that everyone hasnt been keeping updated, so thats basically why i made it 1.9 |
| 10:49.40 | Fin | sylvanaar: well, here's what I reckon. I think there should always always always be a big list of all modules, even if it's unwieldy (sometimes the system of going through multiple levels of categories & groups and stuff can get in the way if you know the module name but not its category, eg) - also I think it should be renamed "all modules" instead of "module control" as "module control" implies (to me) control over all modules in general somehow (like, sayin |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41034 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - allow for the same event for multiple units exist on one tag. |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-22 | - remove tags EnemyThreat, MissingEnemyThreat, FractionalEnemyThreat, |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-22 | MaxEnemyThreat, PercentEnemyThreat, HasNoEnemyThreat, instead roll them into the |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-22 | normal threat tags, so that if a friendly is targetted, it will be the unit's |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-22 | threat vs. "target", if it is a hostile, it will be "player"'s threat vs. the |
| 10:49.47 | CIA-22 | unit. |
| 10:50.34 | Fin | did all of that get through? |
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| 10:50.56 | sylvanaar | Fin ok |
| 10:51.18 | Fin | also if it could work as I expected - being able to enable and disable groups of mods at a time, that would be useful :) |
| 10:51.24 | Fin | I guess that's a request for Mikk though |
| 10:51.49 | Fin | aaand I was thinking about Presets the other day |
| 10:52.27 | Fin | another thing I thought about but was too lazy to do - create Presets for "minimal", "max", and of course "Fin's" :) |
| 10:52.39 | sylvanaar | Fin all the work is done |
| 10:52.42 | Fin | but, it got me thinking about actually, basically what I just asked for |
| 10:52.53 | Fin | Presets that weren't exclusive to each other |
| 10:52.53 | sylvanaar | Fin all you gotta do is paste in your SV's |
| 10:52.54 | Mikk | Fin: Hmmm for me? How so? |
| 10:53.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41035 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - move to the simplified threat tags. |
| 10:53.35 | Fin | Mikk: could you extend your Dewdrop updates with Prat to enable and disable groups of modules at a time, by clicking the category header in the "Module Control" menu? |
| 10:53.38 | Fin | +please |
| 10:53.58 | sylvanaar | Fin prat would need to do that |
| 10:54.03 | Fin | sylvanaar: I know, I just have this problem where I'm actually playing the game as well now and quite enjoying it :) |
| 10:54.21 | Fin | sylvanaar: oh! I see, it's a change to Dewdrop, not Prat |
| 10:54.25 | Fin | pardon me for being fick |
| 10:54.30 | sylvanaar | Fin huh |
| 10:54.37 | Silviu- | ckknight can u make Health in tooltip update all time if u keep tooltip in same place ? |
| 10:54.49 | ckknight | Silviu-: it should already... |
| 10:54.50 | Fin | err, did Mikk update Prat itself, or Dewdrop and Prat inherited some new features? |
| 10:55.02 | Mikk | Fin: I made a change to dewdrop. Sylv made use of it. |
| 10:55.16 | Mikk | So this job is prolly on sylv's table :> |
| 10:55.16 | Fin | right. I got a bit mixed up. apologies. |
| 10:55.20 | Mikk | nps =) |
| 10:55.43 | ckknight | hrm, apparently it doesn't |
| 10:55.51 | Silviu- | ckknight it`s not, only if i move my mouse away and then "retarget" it then it updates, threat updates continous |
| 10:55.53 | Fin | I always thought I should write a simple FuBar plugin one day just so I could understand what's going on better :) |
| 10:56.55 | Fin | btw, I don't think anyone answered me - did that huge line actually all get sent to IRC? if it did, I didn't realise I could actually send that much text without it cutting off |
| 10:57.14 | Fin | gah, WoW really doesn't like me alt-tabbing repeatedly |
| 10:57.15 | dodgizzla | Fin: It got cut off at "somehow (like, sayin" over here |
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| 10:57.34 | Fin | dodgizzla: OK, thanks |
| 10:57.40 | Fin | that was about halfway through |
| 10:57.42 | Fin | heh |
| 10:57.54 | yacoob | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZHsiz_mZzGs - talk about classics |
| 10:58.09 | Fin | sylvanaar: think it would be good if we could display somewhere (on the tooltip?) what other categories a module is in when choosing it (there's so many similarly named modules that it can get confusing sometimes when going through them all to look at settings) |
| 10:58.10 | sylvanaar | Mikk if you feel like torture there is always the jumping header bug in dewdrop |
| 10:58.53 | Mikk | hmwa? |
| 10:58.54 | Mikk | jumping header? |
| 10:59.00 | Fin | Cart's waypoints have a bug that could be described by calling it a "jumping header" |
| 10:59.03 | Fin | huh |
| 10:59.51 | Fin | if you're moving (eg, on a gryph) and right click a map note to set it as a waypoint, sometimes the menu display will jump away a short distance, still usable (but not actually applying to that map note anymore) |
| 10:59.53 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41036 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: removed an unnecessary optimization |
| 11:00.11 | NimbleRabit | Does anyone know where I can get decent numbers of class breakdown at 70? |
| 11:00.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41037 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - if target = mouseover, make Blizzard events effect the mouseover as well. |
| 11:00.18 | Fin | now there's an efficient path name if ever I saw one :) |
| 11:00.26 | ckknight | Silviu-: there we go |
| 11:00.28 | Fin | or log message, even :) |
| 11:00.30 | Fin | "RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: " |
| 11:00.34 | Silviu- | ckknight thx ;) |
| 11:01.06 | mitch0 | fin: :) |
| 11:01.19 | Fin | sylvanaar: have you had too much of my babbling yet? :) |
| 11:01.22 | mitch0 | fin: actually, there's nothing wrong with the pathname. the log message is debatable ;) |
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| 11:01.38 | Fin | yes, I realised that after I said it :) |
| 11:01.51 | Fin | my brain thinks "look at that path!" but it really means the whole thing :) |
| 11:02.01 | Fin | oh yeah, I know why |
| 11:02.21 | Fin | because yesterday I was editing /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf |
| 11:02.37 | sylvanaar | Mikk if you make blank spaces on dewdrop menus they will change positions sometimes |
| 11:02.58 | Fin | and I made a similar comment that *was* about a path :) my brain was trying to be lazy and just repeat itself |
| 11:03.04 | Silviu- | ckknight working superb now ;) cheers |
| 11:03.11 | ckknight | :-) |
| 11:03.17 | ckknight | overall, it's coming together |
| 11:03.24 | ckknight | and it's not really that hard :-P |
| 11:03.27 | Fin | this genetic mutative disease virus can affect me quite strongly sometimes |
| 11:03.46 | Silviu- | Yes and ... this all in 1 day ? |
| 11:03.48 | Silviu- | ... |
| 11:03.55 | Fin | right, I have to go do some real work |
| 11:04.01 | Fin | -yes+yeah |
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| 11:04.45 | sylvanaar | Mikk it happens on Prats menus alot, it has to do with aceoptions "header" types, the order=nnn field, and groups whose subitems have ordering which is not sequential to the ordering of the parent |
| 11:05.49 | sylvanaar | ie 100 101 102(group) -> 1 2 3 4 ->(out of group) 103 104 |
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| 11:06.31 | Mikk | so you have a menu with irtems 100--104 and a submenu with items 1--4? |
| 11:06.46 | sylvanaar | you will get name1 name2 <blank> name3 name4 sometimes or you get name1 name2 name3 <blank> name4 |
| 11:07.09 | sylvanaar | its just an example of what i mean |
| 11:07.37 | Mikk | i'm just wondering what you mean when you say "group" |
| 11:07.52 | Mikk | we're not talking aceoption gruops now are we? |
| 11:07.58 | Silviu- | Hmm ckk i`ll add another "wishlist" ;p take a look ;p |
| 11:08.02 | Mikk | (i.e. submenus) |
| 11:08.22 | sylvanaar | Mikk yes |
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| 11:08.40 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r41038 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.xml: |
| 11:08.40 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:08.40 | CIA-22 | - Tweaked the locations of loot items and the PREV and NEXT buttons to make them always clickable, even when the loot table is full. Stopgap until a better solution comes to mind. |
| 11:08.45 | Silviu- | ckknight i think that one could be easy since u already use SharedMedia no ? |
| 11:09.26 | Mikk | sylvanaar: argh. what's "yes" :P |
| 11:09.26 | Fin | Mikk: item1-order100 item2-order-101 item3-order102 subitem1-order1 subitem2-order2 subitem3-order3 item4-order104 ... |
| 11:09.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 11:09.41 | ckknight | apparently it does exist :-P |
| 11:09.51 | sylvanaar | Mikk one clue is that position wont change until you reload ui |
| 11:10.05 | sylvanaar | Mikk yes - submenus = aceoptions groups |
| 11:10.26 | Mikk | Ok, so what you're saying is that items in one menu can suddenly get rearranged if there's a submenu attached somewhere |
| 11:10.57 | sylvanaar | just "headers" ie blank lines |
| 11:11.07 | Mikk | Knowing how FeedAceOptionsTable works (it only ever processes one level at a time), that sounds a wee bit unlikely |
| 11:11.11 | Silviu- | ckknight strange i can`t find the option :P |
| 11:11.19 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41039 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ (ClosetGnome_Zone.toc ClosetGnome_ZoneLocale-zhTW.lua): ClosetGnome_Zone: Added zhTW localization |
| 11:11.20 | Mikk | Unless there's some freakishness going on in the sort that I'm unaware of |
| 11:11.27 | ckknight | Silviu-: no, in shared media |
| 11:11.29 | sylvanaar | Mikk it happens all over the place in prat |
| 11:11.36 | ckknight | Silviu-: I'll add support later |
| 11:11.41 | Silviu- | Oky super ^^ |
| 11:12.11 | sylvanaar | Mikk you can just /rl over and over and the main menu spacing will change occasionally |
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| 11:13.03 | Mikk | sylvanaar: k |
| 11:13.31 | sylvanaar | Mikk its a complex bug, i tried unsuccessfully to track it down |
| 11:14.06 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41040 10RangeCheck/README.txt: RangeCheck: removed false information |
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| 11:22.53 | mitch0 | what's this [[ bunch of code ]] syntax, and where can I read more about it? :) |
| 11:23.34 | Mikk | you mean "--[[ bunch of code ]]"? |
| 11:23.38 | mitch0 | no |
| 11:23.38 | Mikk | that's a comment block |
| 11:23.57 | mitch0 | take a look at dogtag, it's full of it :) |
| 11:23.59 | Mikk | ok, [[bunch |
| 11:24.00 | Mikk | of |
| 11:24.01 | Mikk | text]] |
| 11:24.02 | mitch0 | and I don't know what it is |
| 11:24.05 | Mikk | That's a multiline string |
| 11:24.42 | mitch0 | oh. I guess later it'll get compiled somehow.. |
| 11:25.38 | Kirkburn | Tell me when you reach Australia |
| 11:25.43 | mitch0 | :) |
| 11:26.02 | sbu | meh |
| 11:26.06 | sbu | new wau every day :o |
| 11:26.08 | sbu | morning ;) |
| 11:26.31 | Kirkburn | sbu, WAU2 too |
| 11:26.57 | sbu | uhm yep? dont know - i just dl'ed 1.9.2 |
| 11:26.58 | mitch0 | erm, is there a DogTag-1.0 devel guide? |
| 11:26.59 | sbu | wheres 2? ;) |
| 11:27.51 | Kirkburn | Kael linked it earlier, argh |
| 11:28.09 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 11:28.13 | Kirkburn | Well, that was easy |
| 11:28.17 | krka | code in comments is typically code that's not intended to be used |
| 11:28.24 | Kirkburn | WAU2 is *beta*. |
| 11:28.40 | mitch0 | krka: it's not in comments |
| 11:28.54 | sbu | bleh, beta... ~every addon you get with WAU is beta :p |
| 11:29.06 | mitch0 | (if that was thrown towards me) |
| 11:29.11 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r41041 10ItemValue_DrDamage/ (. Class_DrDamageSet.lua ItemValue_DrDamage.toc): |
| 11:29.11 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 11:29.11 | CIA-22 | - Initial commit |
| 11:29.11 | CIA-22 | - A DrDamage set for ItemValue. |
| 11:29.11 | krka | it was |
| 11:29.26 | mitch0 | krka: take a look at dogtag and tell me what's going on in there :) |
| 11:29.29 | krka | yeah, it's possible that its compiled later |
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| 11:29.39 | Kirkburn | Aww, c'mon, that was too obvious :( |
| 11:29.45 | krka | weird though... why not simply make a function directly |
| 11:31.26 | Mikk | dogtag is all about creating small selfmodified code functions |
| 11:31.42 | Mikk | put the logic outside the function, make the function as small and efficient as possible |
| 11:33.42 | Mikk | so instead of having a function ShowHP() if(this setting) do that elseif(that setting) dosomethingelse(with this user format or that user format) end |
| 11:33.48 | Mikk | you always have a ShowHP() do what the user configured end |
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| 11:35.22 | [Ammo] | if only dogtag was properly pluggable so the threat module would not be required for it at all time, so people can supply new tags and imlpementations for em |
| 11:36.24 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 11:37.34 | Trancer | wau2 12.6mb, geez |
| 11:37.44 | Fin | huh? |
| 11:37.48 | Fin | fuckin hell |
| 11:38.12 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41042 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 11:38.12 | CIA-22 | DewdropLib: |
| 11:38.12 | CIA-22 | - AddLine(): Add a "mouseoverUnderline" (boolean) directive |
| 11:38.12 | CIA-22 | - FeedAceOptionsTable(): Groups with "onClick" set will now set |
| 11:38.12 | CIA-22 | "mouseoverUnderline" as a visual cue that there's something unusual about the |
| 11:38.15 | CIA-22 | button. Makes it look URLy and clickable. At least I hope people will think so |
| 11:38.18 | CIA-22 | :-) |
| 11:38.46 | Iceroth | if i have a bunch of .lua files under interface/addons/foobar/ that are not referenced in .toc, does wow read/parse/do something to them? as in, do they affect load time? |
| 11:38.49 | Mikk | (the underline is just a single frame that gets re-used btw.. no point in creating several hundreds of them) |
| 11:39.37 | Mikk | Iceroth: At the very list, they will be iterated over along with graphical resources etc. |
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| 11:39.50 | Mikk | I doubt wow actually opens them and goes looking in them though |
| 11:40.27 | Fin | actually |
| 11:40.31 | Fin | I tested this the other day |
| 11:40.33 | Iceroth | is there any "trick" to make wow ignore a certain folder for example? like, name it .foo or some such or change attribute to hidden? |
| 11:40.35 | Fin | and it certainly opens them |
| 11:40.44 | Trancer | hmm.. wau2 doesn't start |
| 11:40.55 | Mikk | Iceroth: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Filemon.mspx will tell you more |
| 11:40.56 | Fin | all the savedvariables files from extinct addons |
| 11:41.05 | Fin | that's exactly what I used to test it as well |
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| 11:41.18 | Mikk | haha |
| 11:41.25 | [Ammo] | Fin: oh hmm, time to clean up my saved vars I guess |
| 11:41.46 | Iceroth | heh, lucky me, i've been doing that periodically :) |
| 11:42.02 | Mikk | Hrm? It goes digging in unused savevars as well? |
| 11:42.22 | Fin | yeah, I'd heard that WoW opens all the files, but was never sure... you know what, I'm going to test it again now |
| 11:42.44 | Mikk | It's not going to PARSE unused savedvars, that much I'm pretty certain of |
| 11:43.01 | Mikk | (Proof lies in said savedvars not being available in the env until said addon is loaded) |
| 11:43.15 | Fin | why else would it open them? |
| 11:43.22 | Mikk | (For fuzzy values of proof) |
| 11:43.31 | Fin | (drunk! values of proof :) |
| 11:43.40 | Fin | (90 proof proof haha) |
| 11:43.47 | Mikk | sigh :P |
| 11:44.16 | Fin | yep |
| 11:44.20 | Fin | it opens them |
| 11:44.23 | ravagernl | ckknight: how would i hide something with dogtag if a unit has more then 80% health? |
| 11:44.37 | Fin | 13:43:00WoW.exe:2128DIRECTORYC:\Programs\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\PGL\Stormrage\Phn\SavedVariables\SUCCESSFileBothDirectoryInformation: ZuxanaModelCitizen.lua.bak |
| 11:44.58 | dodgizzla | Fin: So your account is called PGL? :> |
| 11:44.58 | Fin | I don't have Model Citizen installed anywhere anymore |
| 11:45.03 | Fin | yes, it is |
| 11:45.16 | Fin | sorry, but it's the *password* that's actually interesting |
| 11:45.28 | dodgizzla | :\ |
| 11:45.29 | JoshBorke | secret |
| 11:45.35 | Fin | no, I wouldn't choose that |
| 11:45.37 | Fin | too obvious |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r41043 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-22 | - Given the PvP Non Set Epics their own menu, started the release notes for Saturday's version |
| 11:45.44 | [Ammo] | god |
| 11:45.54 | Fin | 5 points! |
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| 11:46.32 | [Ammo] | god is short for: goddamnitacceptmypassworditevencontainsnumb3rsyoub1tch |
| 11:46.46 | Fin | 11984 filesystem accesses just opening and closing WoW |
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| 11:50.18 | sbu | eh hm |
| 11:50.32 | sbu | starting wow also opens _all_ ptr addon files |
| 11:51.10 | sbu | pretty much everything thats in your $wowdir |
| 11:52.26 | Mikk | Fin: You're sure that they're OPENING them, not just iterating over them? (As in "dir") |
| 11:52.47 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41044 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Pathaleon.lua: LittleWigs: (Pathaleon) fix global pollution and despawn spam |
| 11:53.08 | Mikk | In other news, everyone knows from the movies that you can just type "override" at a password prompt |
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| 11:53.42 | Mikk | And that password prompts always show across half your screen so it's easier for others to count the number of letters in your password |
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| 11:55.02 | Fin | Mikk: it says OPEN, but maybe you're right |
| 11:55.06 | Mikk | (Here's one of my favourite pet peeves in computer-related movie silliness... remember the good old Wargames? The guy hooks up his home computer to some crap voice synth, right? So far so good... But why does the computer have the EXACT same voice when he goes to that multi-billion dollar installation in the mountain?) |
| 11:55.26 | mitch0 | mik: that remminds me, lotus had this funny password prompt with random number of characters inserted upon each keypress. haven't seen that kind of thing elsewhere |
| 11:55.44 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41045 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Skyriss.lua: LittleWigs: (Skyriss) clean some global pollution |
| 11:55.57 | Mikk | Heh. While certainly "good", it kinda negates the whole idea with showing anything at all in the first place :P |
| 11:56.05 | Fin | hey! |
| 11:56.08 | Fin | that's a really good idea |
| 11:56.26 | Mikk | Yer, but what's the point of showing the stars at all then? |
| 11:56.27 | Fin | although not showing anything while typing your password is better I spose |
| 11:56.42 | sbu | Mikk: you know that you pressed some key? :p |
| 11:56.49 | mitch0 | actually, they were not even stars :) funny pictograms or something like that |
| 11:57.05 | sbu | mitch0: its X |
| 11:57.17 | Mikk | Hey, did you know that when you paste your password to IRC, it just shows as stars? Look: ******** |
| 11:57.28 | sbu | :p |
| 11:57.31 | mitch0 | haha ;) |
| 11:57.32 | Higdur | lol |
| 11:57.45 | [Ammo] | famous bash quote :p |
| 11:57.46 | Iceroth | really? so if i type MikkSuxx, it shows as stars to you? |
| 11:57.58 | Mikk | Yeah, I only saw "MikkSuxx", Iceroth |
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| 11:58.06 | sbu | hmmm |
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| 11:58.09 | [Ammo] | [13:57] < Iceroth> really? so if i type *******, it shows as stars to you? |
| 11:58.20 | sbu | deleted WoWTest -> wow now starts in ~10s inestead of >30s :o |
| 11:58.31 | mitch0 | hm... |
| 11:58.32 | [Ammo] | delete old patch files too :) |
| 11:58.37 | Iceroth | ok, marking folder as hidden did jack |
| 11:58.41 | Mikk | Interesting.. wonder what happens if i rip out all the rest of the junk |
| 11:58.48 | Mikk | patch files... blizz data extracts .. |
| 11:58.57 | mitch0 | I'll do some cleanup @home, too ;) |
| 11:58.58 | Mikk | cause my wow is loading sloooooooooooooow these days |
| 11:59.00 | Fin | Mikk: even if it were just checking directories, an ls -Rla of my root WoW folder would take a few seconds :) |
| 11:59.38 | sbu | Recount\Recount_Modes.lua:107: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'ActiveTime' (a nil value) |
| 11:59.38 | sbu | hm |
| 11:59.39 | Fin | I've still never reinstalled WoW |
| 11:59.41 | Mikk | Lol. I have someone complaining at my level 12 hunter dev toon sitting at the gates of orgri that I'm a noob for not having a pet |
| 11:59.44 | sbu | okay, recount is broken onw :p |
| 11:59.52 | Higdur | Mikk: me too, got to try that |
| 11:59.56 | Fin | I never actually used the install CDs, just upgraded the beta client I was using |
| 12:00.04 | Iceroth | i just wonder why the process explorer shows addon file read results being "BUFFER OVERFLOW" O.o |
| 12:00.09 | Higdur | wow usualy takes around 2 min to start up |
| 12:00.18 | mitch0 | I'm afraid DogTag will give me a headache shortly... |
| 12:01.06 | Mikk | Iceroth: Probably because WoW goes "read(1000000)" to get it all into memory, and that error your'e seeing is the OS saying "nop, sorry, there only was 12345 bytes" |
| 12:01.15 | Iceroth | ah |
| 12:01.27 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r41046 10ArkInventory/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:01.27 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 12:01.27 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-21-20-30 |
| 12:01.37 | [Ammo] | you don't want this advice: http://roflsaurus.com/users/public/w42728problems49.jpg |
| 12:02.46 | Iceroth | :D |
| 12:02.52 | Higdur | :) |
| 12:03.13 | mitch0 | ammo: :) |
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| 12:04.10 | mitch0 | ok, anyone here understands how to do DogTag Tags? :) |
| 12:04.26 | Fin | [Amoo]: awesome :) |
| 12:04.53 | Fin | the question is |
| 12:05.04 | Fin | how much tag would a dog tag tag if a dogtag could dog tags? |
| 12:05.17 | [Ammo] | tag dogs... |
| 12:05.18 | dodgizzla | dogtagging question. |
| 12:05.20 | [Ammo] | your ending is wrong |
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| 12:05.32 | Fin | it was a trick question, tch :) |
| 12:05.37 | Fin | the answer's none |
| 12:05.40 | dodgizzla | Is it dog tag day? :D |
| 12:05.41 | Fin | I was being CLEVAH |
| 12:05.50 | Fin | there's nothing wrong with being day |
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| 12:06.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad|sleep] by ChanServ |
| 12:06.05 | dodgizzla | I'm tagged! |
| 12:06.14 | Fin | sleeptalkin' |
| 12:06.28 | dodgizzla | So.. do I run around in a frenzied state of panic? |
| 12:06.34 | phyber | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/112631293.htm |
| 12:06.36 | mitch0 | guess these could be removed, right? : |
| 12:06.36 | phyber | that's retarded. |
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| 12:06.43 | mitch0 | if date("%Y%m%d") < "20070721" then ... end |
| 12:06.43 | phyber | people still have to press a button to target. |
| 12:06.51 | dodgizzla | Mikk: Yeah I know, but I got used to people here not writing my nick right :o |
| 12:07.08 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r41047 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: update to frFR, thanks Olivier |
| 12:07.10 | dodgizzla | It's my alternative nick, too, so I don't give a rats ass :> |
| 12:07.14 | Mikk | haha |
| 12:07.26 | PHL-Chuck | Anyone notice last day or so Autobar isnt showing mounts? It has my Travel form listed but not my kodo |
| 12:07.37 | PHL-Chuck | I deleted autobar stuff from wtf didnt fix it |
| 12:07.41 | Fin | PHL-Chuck: what does the PHL stand for in your name? |
| 12:07.44 | Mikk | phyber: it also removes all requirements of actual user skill |
| 12:07.47 | PHL-Chuck | philly |
| 12:07.52 | Fin | oh |
| 12:07.53 | Fin | thanks |
| 12:08.05 | phyber | Mikk: sure, taking the time to move my mouse to the next mob = skill ;) |
| 12:08.07 | Fin | Mikk: but, doesn't allowing addons to target by icon just do the same thing? |
| 12:08.24 | Mikk | addons aren't allowed to target |
| 12:08.32 | Fin | oh yeah |
| 12:08.39 | PHL-Chuck | I hate blizz for taking autorouge away from me |
| 12:08.58 | PHL-Chuck | think I used lazyrogue actually lol |
| 12:08.59 | Fin | here's something I don't understand, about Decursive |
| 12:09.01 | Matrix110 | zomg now you need to press 3 Buttons instead of 1 orwhat? |
| 12:09.08 | Fin | it has a list of debuffs people have |
| 12:09.14 | Mikk | respec combat. spam SS. same diff :P |
| 12:09.15 | Fin | and it has the "micro" thingies |
| 12:09.16 | PHL-Chuck | it was great for kicking and eviserating :/ |
| 12:09.25 | Fin | you can click the micro thingies to debuff whoever needs it |
| 12:09.31 | Fin | but you can't click the list |
| 12:09.31 | PHL-Chuck | well rogue is 70 now |
| 12:09.40 | Fin | why not just make the micro thingies show whatever's on the list? |
| 12:09.45 | PHL-Chuck | gotta use the mini-units |
| 12:09.48 | Fin | why? |
| 12:09.55 | PHL-Chuck | no idea :-) |
| 12:10.17 | Fin | well that's my question, why, I just explained that you have to use the microthings... I think |
| 12:10.18 | Mikk | Thing is, as of 2.0, you can't make a button change its behavior in combat |
| 12:10.23 | PHL-Chuck | is there a tie in to pitbull to be able to decurse? (or maybe via click2cast ? |
| 12:10.27 | Fin | but it does change its behaviour, Mikk |
| 12:10.34 | Fin | it highlights when someone gets debuffed |
| 12:10.48 | Mikk | It'll still do the same thing when you click it |
| 12:10.52 | Mikk | Changing appearance is ok |
| 12:10.56 | Mikk | Changing behavior is not |
| 12:11.06 | Fin | the player can have different types of debuff |
| 12:11.08 | CIA-22 | 03thekarn * r41048 10SanityItemCache/ (SanityItemCache.lua SanityItemCacheAPI.lua): |
| 12:11.08 | CIA-22 | SanityItemCache: |
| 12:11.08 | CIA-22 | Merging changes from Branch to Trunk. |
| 12:11.08 | CIA-22 | - Filter expressions now support brackets. |
| 12:11.08 | CIA-22 | - Filter expressions using quotes actually work now |
| 12:11.09 | CIA-22 | - Filter expressions can use commas in their arguments when wrapped in quotes. |
| 12:11.21 | Fin | it'll get rid of whatever I can dispel or depoison |
| 12:11.24 | PHL-Chuck | so autobar is working fine for everyone? |
| 12:11.39 | Fin | so why not just display the list of debuff names in the same place as the microbuttons? |
| 12:11.53 | Fin | I don't use mounts with autobar, PHL-Chuck |
| 12:11.54 | Iceroth | rolf, some helpful moderator at logitech support forum changed my word "crap" to "junk" :D |
| 12:12.03 | Mikk | Fin: It prolly just spams all possible spells on the target. That's doable these days, since a dispel is a no-op if there's nothing to dispel |
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| 12:12.33 | Fin | Mikk: yeah, I thought maybe it did that too... but... why not just make it so clicking the list of debuff names does the same? I don't understand |
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| 12:12.40 | Mikk | PHL-Chuck: I just use GoGoMount. It automagically picks the right mount for the situation. And travelforms if i'm running / in combat |
| 12:12.51 | Fin | or even just have the debuff list displayed over the microblips somehow |
| 12:12.54 | Mikk | Fin: Cause the big list of debuff names on screen moves around |
| 12:13.01 | PHL-Chuck | cool I'll check that out |
| 12:13.36 | Mikk | Moving = changing behavior, basically |
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| 12:13.57 | Fin | it doesn't really move though, it's just text, the frame stays where it is |
| 12:13.57 | Mikk | If you could have 25 "decurse" buttons and move them around so the one you need to decurse is always under the cursor, you're back to one-click gaming |
| 12:14.28 | Fin | but it *is* one-click gaming :) it's whack-a-mole for debuffs |
| 12:14.33 | Mikk | Fin: But with different targets, yes? |
| 12:14.45 | Fin | five little buttons in a row, when one lights up I click it |
| 12:14.53 | Fin | it cleanses that target |
| 12:14.55 | Mikk | Whack-a-mole in different areas of the screen is radically different from just spamming a single button |
| 12:15.12 | Fin | not in practise |
| 12:15.16 | Fin | but I see what you mean |
| 12:15.16 | Mikk | Cause that single button can have lots of smartness implemented, i.e. what to cleanse first from whom |
| 12:15.34 | Higdur | like decursive used to have |
| 12:15.41 | Mikk | Indeed |
| 12:15.45 | Mikk | And now it can't do that anymore |
| 12:15.49 | Mikk | Which is what blizzard wanted |
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| 12:15.54 | Higdur | I remember just spamming my § button all day long in MC |
| 12:16.19 | Higdur | and chromaggus... |
| 12:16.27 | Mikk | Hell, you even need a little bit of skill now to NOT doink cleanse on someone with UA on them |
| 12:16.32 | Mikk | And it shows |
| 12:16.38 | Higdur | yeah :) |
| 12:16.46 | Mikk | Joe pally will still gladly cleanse whoever has a debuff on them |
| 12:16.50 | Fin | I understand why they've done it, and sort of the background, what I don't understand is why it's not possible to put the list of debuffs over the whackamicros, and have the debuff names display next to them |
| 12:16.50 | Mikk | BOOM, 2000 damage and silenced |
| 12:16.55 | Higdur | so funny when people dispell it :) |
| 12:17.13 | Mikk | Fin: It's certainly possible to display names next to the microbuttons |
| 12:17.20 | Mikk | It just gets bloaty, I guess |
| 12:17.59 | Fin | I find it easier to do it manually myself anyway, ctrl+rightclick and shift+rightclick for dispel and abolish poison is not exactly stretching the limits of my coordination |
| 12:18.15 | Higdur | I just use Grid. and stay faaar away from those nasty UA icons :) |
| 12:18.28 | Fin | perhaps I should try Grid again, actually |
| 12:18.32 | Mikk | Grid & co could even hide the fact that there's a debuff on someone if UA is present |
| 12:18.35 | Higdur | indeed Fin |
| 12:18.44 | Fin | it was too much of a change back when I tried it first |
| 12:18.45 | Mikk | It's almost cheating, but it's certainly doable :P |
| 12:18.48 | Fin | now it seems more logical |
| 12:18.54 | Fin | *almost* cheating? |
| 12:19.03 | Fin | when does it actually become cheating then? :) |
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| 12:19.08 | Fin | heh |
| 12:19.10 | Mikk | ok, it's cheating |
| 12:19.14 | Fin | heheheh |
| 12:19.18 | Higdur | borderland ftw :) |
| 12:19.28 | PHL-Chuck | would it be possible to have an addon that snapshots different screen layouts of addons as one big profile? lol |
| 12:19.30 | Mikk | it means it's no longer a brain check for stupids just whack-a-mole cleansing |
| 12:19.32 | Higdur | it's fine as long as the UA icon has top priority :) |
| 12:19.38 | Fin | I'm hungry, I'm going to buy some food and beer |
| 12:19.49 | Mikk | pass me a beer too willya, i'm out |
| 12:20.13 | PHL-Chuck | I was really impressed with that mazzleui configuring tool, |
| 12:20.30 | Fin | I... I can't... I... er, I need it because of my genetic mutative disease virus |
| 12:20.30 | PHL-Chuck | just took a little too much out of my control |
| 12:20.30 | Higdur | Mikk: you probably need to do whack-a-mole healing too :p |
| 12:20.58 | Mikk | aka "emergency monitor clicking". good way to overheal and go outta mana :P |
| 12:21.43 | Higdur | :) |
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| 12:22.29 | Higdur | but tonight I'm supposed to pewpew, trying out shadow :o |
| 12:23.04 | Mikk | ya, thanks blizz for finally giving shadowpriests a viable role in raids =) |
| 12:23.17 | Mikk | (goddamn VT is schweet) |
| 12:23.23 | Higdur | ya |
| 12:24.00 | Higdur | it's abit to get used too though, considering I've never been raid dps:ing before gruul 2 days ago :) |
| 12:24.25 | Higdur | but fun to try something new |
| 12:24.53 | krka | you can still enable / disable buttons in combat, right? |
| 12:25.01 | Higdur | feels a bit scary not beeing able to depend on yourself to keep the raid from wiping though, hope someone else is up for the task :D |
| 12:25.08 | sbu | mh CowTip is nice :p |
| 12:25.23 | Josh_Borke | krka: not secure buttons |
| 12:25.29 | krka | oh i see |
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| 12:25.43 | krka | i thought that part was kept, but i guess not |
| 12:25.53 | Josh_Borke | if you could then all you'd need to do is put all the buttons on top of each other and enable/disable as needed |
| 12:25.54 | Mikk | you can hide/show textures and stuff |
| 12:26.01 | Mikk | but the click function will remains |
| 12:27.21 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41049 10CrowBar/CrowBar.toc: CrowBar: updated zhTW localization |
| 12:27.53 | mitch0 | there is light at the end of the tunnel... |
| 12:28.04 | mitch0 | (almost at australia, btw) |
| 12:28.08 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41050 10ChatLog/ChatLog.toc: ChatLog: updated zhTW localization |
| 12:28.25 | Higdur | it's really a pain that all Ace2 libraries are shared so that I can't determine which addon is killing my raid framerate though :) |
| 12:28.45 | Josh_Borke | Higdur: disembed the libraries |
| 12:28.48 | Higdur | everything just shows up under FuBar in the performance checking.. |
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| 12:29.12 | Higdur | run standalone you mean? |
| 12:29.26 | kenlyric | hmmm... none of the updates for babble-spell indicate frenzy has been fixed :/ |
| 12:29.34 | Higdur | then it all shows up under Ace2, not helping in knowing the cause... |
| 12:29.40 | mitch0 | can someone tell me what .ret="string;nil" means in dogtagish? (and how does it differ from .ret="string") |
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| 12:30.59 | Josh_Borke | Higdur: then you're sol |
| 12:31.06 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41051 10DelMapa/DelMapa.toc: DelMapa: updated zhTW localization |
| 12:31.06 | TheKarn | did i hear something about Prat soon showing chat history on load? |
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| 12:31.45 | Higdur | I switched around a few addons the last couple of days just before I respecced shadow |
| 12:32.00 | Higdur | and I had like 2-3fps on Malugar... |
| 12:32.10 | kenlyric | the answerr, as always, is aloft :) |
| 12:32.30 | Higdur | :o |
| 12:32.37 | pb_ee1 | TheKarn: I'll work on it, but not immediatly, I must finish the code of the roster of my guild first |
| 12:32.47 | Higdur | never used aloft, don't even know what it does :) |
| 12:32.51 | pb_ee1 | Code will be based on ChatLog |
| 12:33.08 | kenlyric | it's almost my #3 :) |
| 12:33.19 | kenlyric | does nameplate replacement. Makes them useful. |
| 12:33.21 | Higdur | on Gruul I disabled Prat, SCT, SCTD, Pitbull, helped a bit |
| 12:33.34 | Higdur | but still got very low framerates |
| 12:33.45 | Fisker-- | disable KTM |
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| 12:33.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 12:33.49 | pb_ee1 | Noob question: how do I add the revision number of my addon in LUA? |
| 12:33.57 | Josh_Borke | $Revision$ |
| 12:34.00 | krka | pb_ee1: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 12:34.01 | Fisker-- | beating an old horse ftw |
| 12:34.02 | Higdur | I didn't have KTM running, Omen though |
| 12:34.15 | pb_ee1 | krka: Sorry |
| 12:34.15 | Josh_Borke | svn propset svn:keywords = "rev" |
| 12:34.16 | Josh_Borke | i think |
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| 12:34.23 | Mikk | Wow... Now I've found a way to get AceOptions->DewDrop to ___REALLY___ barf out |
| 12:34.36 | Mikk | Create ~20 windows in Violation, then delete a bunch of em |
| 12:34.48 | pb_ee1 | I mean, in the Lua code, i'd like to do <AddOn_Name>.Version = <Revision_Number> |
| 12:34.52 | *** join/#wowace alext (i=v@noc.salisbury.edu) |
| 12:34.57 | Mikk | You end up with godawful amounts of random shit in the Windows menu |
| 12:35.15 | sylvanaar | Mikk lol |
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| 12:35.34 | Mikk | Granted, I should doublecheck that it's not violation misbehaving |
| 12:35.54 | CIA-22 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r41052 10MrPlow/ (Localization_enUS.lua MrPlow.lua PlowEngine.lua): MrPlow: Now sorts the first 4 bags onclick properly. Just need to write the shell now, ie all the commands etc. Sorting/defragging/stacking functions all work as intended. |
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| 12:37.20 | [Ammo] | Mikk: it might be vio misbehaving, but I haven't noticed the oddities yet |
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| 12:38.18 | pb_ee1 | Josh_Borke: I just have to ass $Revision$ and it will be replaced during upload? |
| 12:38.22 | kenlyric | you know, since they changed enchanting to where you had to be a certain skill to disenchant, it should also give some skill points at all levels. |
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| 12:38.40 | kenlyric | like maybe 5 points at yellow, 5 at green for each 25 enchanting skill points. |
| 12:39.09 | wobin | totally |
| 12:39.22 | pb_ee1 | s/ass/add/ |
| 12:39.22 | wobin | I could level my enchanter up with lvl 69 greens |
| 12:39.26 | Mikk | Nah, that was vio misbehaving. It wasn't deleting child option tables from the windows.args{} table when deleting windows |
| 12:39.37 | [Ammo] | Mikk: oh meh |
| 12:39.37 | kenlyric | well, not level completely, but at least ease the burden somewhat. |
| 12:39.39 | [Ammo] | I suck I guess |
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| 12:39.42 | Mikk | =) |
| 12:39.49 | Mikk | Not everyone is as monkey as me at testing :P |
| 12:39.53 | [Ammo] | but hey, I got the multiwindows working quite smoothly |
| 12:40.05 | [Ammo] | and plugged all leaks as well |
| 12:40.09 | [Ammo] | it's now very memory friendly :) |
| 12:40.25 | [Ammo] | did a 4 hour raid last night and a grand total of 12KiB increase |
| 12:40.26 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 12:40.36 | [Ammo] | which is probably just the data it gathered |
| 12:40.45 | [Ammo] | all modules enabled |
| 12:41.54 | wobin | wot, no tongue? =P |
| 12:42.05 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:42.20 | Fisker-- | no! |
| 12:42.34 | rophy | Anyone got a high level mage? |
| 12:42.48 | Industrial | fisker and wobin, sitting in a tree.. |
| 12:42.49 | alext | [Ammo]: taking any feature requests for Necronomicon2? I was going to ask for a few slight things that would allow me to replace good old necrosis |
| 12:42.56 | Jagobah | ammo you write violation? |
| 12:43.07 | Jagobah | If so, is pet merging incorporated yet? |
| 12:43.48 | wobin | oh wow |
| 12:43.52 | rophy | abbat_w: When a mage steals a buff, the combat log shows 'Someone steals your Buff', does the combat log show 'Someone gains Buff' after that? |
| 12:43.58 | wobin | if you get 5 hunters with cats, can you make a Voltron? |
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| 12:44.24 | wobin | rophy: >< |
| 12:44.32 | wobin | rophy: "Someone steals your nose." |
| 12:44.52 | rophy | O_o |
| 12:44.56 | abbat_w | rophy, i use simplecombat log |
| 12:44.57 | [Ammo] | Jacobah: pet merging is in, pet broadcasting as well |
| 12:45.05 | abbat_w | and spellsteal looks like |
| 12:45.15 | [Ammo] | alext: what requests? it's pretty much too bloated for my taste already |
| 12:45.15 | abbat_w | You SpellSteal <nickname> |
| 12:45.19 | rophy | abbat_w try turning off 'suppress default message' and steal something? |
| 12:45.22 | abbat_w | ++You gain Arcane Power |
| 12:45.26 | alext | ah |
| 12:45.44 | Recluse | Each time I login/zone I get an error out of either AceEvent or some Cartographer module - any ideas? http://pastey.net/58676 |
| 12:45.57 | abbat_w | I don't see messages like 'you spellsteal <buff> from <nick> |
| 12:45.57 | rophy | I need the exact combat logs. |
| 12:46.01 | alext | not sure if your familiar with necrosis, but they give you those little buttons where you click them and a menu appears. Was looking for one similar to the "spell menu" it has |
| 12:46.10 | alext | has some warlock utility spells on it |
| 12:46.13 | alext | like eye of kilrogg |
| 12:46.24 | rophy | abbat_w: you won't, because ParserLib (and SimpleCombatLog) doesn't have the patterns for spell steal yet. |
| 12:46.35 | rophy | which is why I have to add. |
| 12:46.54 | [Ammo] | alext: I planned on adding a pet summon menu |
| 12:46.58 | [Ammo] | I just never bothered |
| 12:47.02 | [Ammo] | since I only use my imp |
| 12:47.05 | alext | yah |
| 12:47.05 | wobin | Could it perhaps be due to Quixote, Recluse? =) |
| 12:47.11 | alext | I only do to EXCEPT pvp and situational |
| 12:47.19 | abbat_w | I don't sure what raw combat log have something like "you spellsteal <spell> from <nick>" |
| 12:47.40 | alext | I would love it if someone would just make an addon with the necrosis buttons with the drop down menus that come off of them |
| 12:48.02 | abbat_w | if someone spellsteal me i see 'Arcane Power fades from you' |
| 12:48.14 | alext | the pet summon one, the warlock horse summon one, the spell one and the dot one. In practice all I really use is the pet summon / mount / spell one but they all would be useful |
| 12:48.28 | abbat_w | But anyway i write log |
| 12:48.55 | Recluse | wobin: I have no idea what Quixote is :) must be embedded in the module, as I have never specifically installed it as an addon/library on its own |
| 12:49.01 | rophy | abbat_w: some original combat logs would help a lot. |
| 12:49.12 | chutwig | what exactly does cowtip do :o |
| 12:49.14 | wobin | Recluse: It's used in quest addons |
| 12:49.14 | chutwig | replacement for tinytip? |
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| 12:49.23 | wobin | chutwig: not really |
| 12:49.29 | wobin | it's a tooltip addon that takes DogTag tags |
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| 12:49.47 | chutwig | i sees |
| 12:50.58 | Recluse | wobin: thus, should i do without the offending cartographer module until the module is repaired at some point in the future? |
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| 12:51.14 | wobin | Do you have QuestFu? |
| 12:51.43 | Recluse | Never heard of it, oh. I can assume what it does though lol |
| 12:51.45 | Fin | [14:47:04] < wobin> rophy: "Someone steals your nose." |
| 12:51.49 | Fin | but how does he smell? |
| 12:51.55 | wobin | TERRIBLE |
| 12:51.59 | Fin | YES! |
| 12:52.28 | Fin | you have no idea how happy you've made me! ye GODS I've tried that so many times and people didn't know the joke |
| 12:52.29 | Mech0z | Nice with the new threat-ktm thing in threat1.0 |
| 12:52.31 | Fin | 10 points, sir |
| 12:52.50 | wobin | \O/ |
| 12:53.12 | Fin | haha |
| 12:53.28 | Mikk | Whoot? KTM export is integrated in threat 1.0? |
| 12:53.33 | Fin | that looked like you were swimming because of my status bar (the colour and text that was currently there) |
| 12:53.45 | wobin | One of my friends once coded a pug dog on our MUD. You could type "flick nose on dog" and after three times, the nose would fall off and the dog would emit a horrible smell =P |
| 12:54.01 | Fin | awesome |
| 12:54.24 | [Ammo] | KTM broadcast in threat-1.0 is soo useless when there are no KTM users around, hope I can delete it easily |
| 12:54.42 | Fin | oh, for the days of infogrames |
| 12:55.38 | Wixi | What version of Threat has that integrated, as apparantly i wasn't showing up on KTM last night in Gruuls |
| 12:55.56 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r41053 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Adding rev number to saved variables to track changes between versions. |
| 12:56.09 | [Ammo] | dunno, I guess the most recent |
| 12:56.21 | [Ammo] | just hope it's in a separate file I can add to my 'delete this junk after updating' script |
| 12:56.47 | liquiem | - added KLHTM broadcast support: |
| 12:56.47 | liquiem | . not even loaded by default, need to be explicitely enabled, |
| 12:56.58 | liquiem | thats what threat changelog says |
| 12:57.06 | [Ammo] | meh, it's in the threat-1.0.lua file |
| 12:57.08 | [Ammo] | useless bloat |
| 12:58.05 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41054 10DeuceCommander/ (DeuceCommander.lua DeuceCommander.toc): DeuceCommander: updated zhTW localization |
| 12:58.06 | liquiem | well, i wonder if i can delete threattoktm now |
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| 13:01.16 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r41055 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Changing a bit the rev in order to get only the number and not the full revision string (hardcoded) |
| 13:01.53 | pb_ee1 | hardcoded -> drycoded, but nm :p |
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| 13:03.05 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: zomg |
| 13:03.15 | Gnarfoz | lots of errors regarding ActiveTime with Recount |
| 13:03.24 | [Ammo] | Mikk: the underline in dewdrop is not consistent if you move fast it does not show, and look shit at low scaling because it is 'inside' the text |
| 13:03.40 | [Ammo] | 0.64 UI scale |
| 13:03.59 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Sorry, I'm not fixing that AceOptions gruop not getting deleted thing... Too much code to plow through. |
| 13:04.07 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 13:04.10 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Hrmz.. ok.. looking at it |
| 13:04.11 | [Ammo] | where is the bug |
| 13:04.15 | [Ammo] | I can fix it probably |
| 13:04.22 | [Ammo] | what group is not getting deleted |
| 13:04.42 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: http://ace.pastey.net/58712 |
| 13:04.45 | Mikk | When you delete a window, its aceoption group isn't getting removed from the "Windows" menu |
| 13:04.54 | Mikk | The table is getting deleted just fine, but the ref remains in the menu |
| 13:05.34 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 13:05.36 | Gnarfoz | ~seen cryect |
| 13:05.39 | purl | cryect is currently on #wowace, last said: 'np'. |
| 13:05.51 | [Ammo] | this: options.args.windows.args[id] = nil should take care of that |
| 13:06.15 | Mikk | Yeah but create a bunch of windows and delete them and then dump options.args.windows.args |
| 13:06.23 | Mikk | You'll see that it's in fact, not getting nilled out |
| 13:06.39 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 13:06.39 | Mikk | You're probably deleting the wrong ID |
| 13:06.50 | [Ammo] | I should not be deleteing the wrong id, but meh |
| 13:07.02 | Mikk | Probably related to you renumbering the windows |
| 13:07.30 | [Ammo] | but I delete before renumbering |
| 13:08.00 | Mikk | Feck knows. This is why I gave up and dumped it on you =) |
| 13:08.24 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:08.43 | [Ammo] | I dunno either, but there is probably some table refs lingering or something |
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| 13:09.23 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r41056 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: |
| 13:09.24 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 13:09.24 | CIA-22 | - Changed Mend Pet in combat to a toggleable feature. |
| 13:09.24 | CIA-22 | - Enabling Mend Pet will create a persistent button. |
| 13:10.11 | [Ammo] | maybe I should do it in 1 pass, renumber windows and move the options |
| 13:10.56 | Mikk | Sigh. WTB SVN update that doesn't fetch externals |
| 13:12.01 | [Ammo] | svn up --ignore-externals |
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| 13:12.12 | [Liquidor] | Pitbull messes up my memory this patch :/ I don't even dare using it anymore since I do arena matches all day long. With Pitbull on it takes me 8-10 seconds to load a world, but without Pitbull only 3 seconds top. Sup? |
| 13:12.14 | Mikk | *TSVN |
| 13:12.21 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|Work: pong? |
| 13:12.21 | [Ammo] | tort sucks |
| 13:12.26 | [Ammo] | just download the svn binaries |
| 13:12.27 | Mikk | =/ |
| 13:12.29 | nevcairiel | wonder if i manage to answer him once :p |
| 13:12.31 | [Ammo] | tort is good for browsing logs etc |
| 13:12.43 | nevcairiel | i use tort for commiting :P |
| 13:12.57 | nevcairiel | builtin editbox for changelogs, no funky editor :) |
| 13:13.06 | sylvanaar | Mikk update to revision |
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| 13:14.19 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41057 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 13:14.19 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 13:14.19 | CIA-22 | - Move window settings inside the Windows menu |
| 13:14.19 | CIA-22 | - Move "Format Values" to where it should be (missing 'order' directive) |
| 13:14.19 | CIA-22 | - Plug a very very small mem leak (1 table per person leaving your group) |
| 13:14.37 | abbat_w | rophy, i'll try to make for you some logs with spellsteal ;) |
| 13:14.49 | sylvanaar | Mikk its on the submenu |
| 13:15.03 | rophy | abbat_w: I love you |
| 13:16.21 | Mikk | sylvanaar: ooh, cheers |
| 13:16.50 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Hrm. I'm running at 0.64 now. In windowed mode so it's even smaller. 1280x1024 resolution. |
| 13:17.03 | Mikk | Not seeing the "inside the text" and "not showing" effects you talk about |
| 13:17.10 | Mikk | Your running at 1024x768 or something equally horrid? |
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| 13:17.40 | [Ammo] | 1024x786 windowed |
| 13:17.43 | [Ammo] | because I'm at work |
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| 13:19.03 | Mikk | Whoups, wrong close button |
| 13:19.16 | [Ammo] | Mikk: underline is weird |
| 13:19.21 | Mikk | And yeah ok at 1024x768 I'm getting the icky effects you mention |
| 13:19.22 | [Ammo] | I'll try and explain behaviour I see |
| 13:19.26 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 13:19.27 | [Ammo] | cool |
| 13:19.42 | Mikk | Maybe I need to make it resolution dependant or something like that ... |
| 13:20.44 | Mikk | Gods. 0.64 and 1024x768... how can you even read anything |
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| 13:21.32 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41058 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: updated zhTW localization |
| 13:22.49 | [Ammo] | Mikk: I normally run at 1280x1024 0.64 |
| 13:23.00 | [Ammo] | which is perfectly readable |
| 13:23.43 | Higdur | 1920x1200 0.64 \o/ |
| 13:23.46 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41059 10/branches/DogTag-1.0/: preparing for branching |
| 13:23.56 | Fisker-- | 1 BILLION x 1 BILLION 0.64 |
| 13:25.20 | winkiller | gah, 2 new WAU builds daily |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Range * r41060 10DogTag-1.0/: branching for RangeCheck support |
| 13:27.14 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r41061 10EnchantingSell/ (3 files): |
| 13:27.14 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 13:27.14 | CIA-22 | - implemented reagent counts in bags, banks and alts |
| 13:27.14 | CIA-22 | - only get auction pricing if useauctionpricing option is enabled |
| 13:28.50 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r41062 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: ClosetGnome_Banker: add frFR locale |
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| 13:29.03 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41063 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fix menu option lingering upon deletion. |
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| 13:29.06 | [Ammo] | Mikk: ^---- test |
| 13:30.10 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41064 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: delete commented line |
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| 13:30.38 | Mikk | [Ammo]: will do. running off to do some shopping. |
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| 13:32.07 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41065 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fix typo in defaultbartexture db field default |
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| 13:37.51 | Cryect | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.12 | Cryect | Reset your data (fixing the bug with it not resetting today >_>) |
| 13:38.16 | Flexom | someone messed up something with wau? "Version Check...Update Available (1.9.1.354)" |
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| 13:39.15 | Flexom | can't find that update:p |
| 13:39.32 | Gnarfoz | open your eyes then |
| 13:39.35 | Gnarfoz | it's right below the 1.8 ones |
| 13:40.14 | Flexom | you're right, I've gone blind.... ^^ *runs and hides* |
| 13:41.51 | Flexom | it's a miracle, I can see again:D |
| 13:42.57 | yacoob | hm, I must've mistaken it with can opener... |
| 13:43.02 | yacoob | ...oh well, if it worked... |
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| 13:47.14 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Range * r41066 10DogTag-1.0/ (DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua DogTag-1.0.toc): drycoded Tags.Range |
| 13:47.45 | sylvanaar | PeriodicTable who manages it? |
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| 13:49.18 | [Liquidor] | look in the toc |
| 13:49.44 | Silviu- | nymbia and Roadkiller i think |
| 13:49.48 | Silviu- | Toadkiller* |
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| 13:50.44 | rantanman | ckknight: hi, theres an annoying bug in fubar_clockfu and you seem to be the author of it so... it displays "No translation for DATE available". i use the deDE version of wow. The Datestring is missing and DATE is shown in the tooltip instead. |
| 13:51.27 | sylvanaar | ok basically that means "is anyone here that manages it" |
| 13:55.33 | [Liquidor] | does Glorylib support arenas? |
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| 13:56.17 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r41067 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (PeriodicTable-3.0.toc embeds.xml modules.xml): |
| 13:56.17 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 13:56.17 | CIA-22 | - Misc is not a module, added embeds.xml for acelibrary embed. |
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| 13:58.08 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41068 10Recount/ (. Recount.toc): Recount - Adds Babble-Race for Threat |
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| 14:07.46 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Range * r41069 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: typo |
| 14:08.13 | winkiller | cowtip looks nic |
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| 14:15.05 | whatsinthename | hello all |
| 14:15.10 | Fin | is it possible to accurately tell your target's location (as in, their coordinates)? |
| 14:15.13 | Fin | hello |
| 14:15.19 | whatsinthename | ckk r u here |
| 14:15.42 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r41070 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: Updated Void Reaver frFR triggers |
| 14:16.52 | whatsinthename | anyone know what to use in filter for Parser-3.0 to get events where a mob is killed by a player/party/raid member only |
| 14:16.52 | jme | cladhaire: used doublewide/tomtom/LH last night in SMV, you win the coolest mod ever award :) |
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| 14:17.16 | durcyn | Fin: not really, no. |
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| 14:17.53 | durcyn | Fin: you could do basic spell-range checking and extrapolate based on your own position, but that's about it. |
| 14:17.53 | cladhaire | lol thanks |
| 14:18.16 | Fin | there's no information given to the client about your target (assuming they're not in your party), then |
| 14:18.37 | durcyn | Fin: if there is, it's not exposed to the addon API |
| 14:19.20 | mitch0 | fin: carto does something like that |
| 14:19.22 | durcyn | Fin: see: Cartographer GuildPositions |
| 14:19.28 | Fin | thanks |
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| 14:19.44 | Cryect | GPSLib lets you get your player coords inside of dungeons but nothing for communicating to other players yet |
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| 14:20.51 | krka | does it use pings? |
| 14:21.10 | krka | i had an idea a few months (even a year?) ago that you could use pings to calculate positions |
| 14:21.11 | mitch0 | cryect: whoa! can it put me on the instance map as well? I keep getting lost in instances... |
| 14:21.24 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41071 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes a bug with the types not being redetermined when players/pet join/leave your group |
| 14:22.24 | Fin | I always thought it should be possible to do that in instance |
| 14:22.26 | Fin | +s |
| 14:22.41 | Cryect | mitch0: If someone decides to write a module sure, there seems to be an offset off for the ADT coordinates in the instance maps that someone needs to see what the difference is but relative wise it seemed to work with my quick hack |
| 14:22.49 | Fin | after all, you can map out the whole thing, you know how fast you're moving, and you know your current position relative to where you started... |
| 14:23.03 | Cryect | pfft you don't know how fast your moving :-p |
| 14:23.11 | Fin | well |
| 14:23.15 | mitch0 | and there's always the blink bug :) |
| 14:23.19 | Fin | you know how long it takes to walk from one place to another, no? |
| 14:23.39 | Cryect | how do you know if they get knockbacked etc |
| 14:23.54 | Cryect | anyways my method is a lot more simple than that |
| 14:23.59 | Fin | hum |
| 14:24.04 | Cryect | look at the ping data |
| 14:24.12 | jme | got invited to my first raid ever last night, finally |
| 14:24.14 | Fin | oh, minimap pings? |
| 14:24.16 | jme | (kara) |
| 14:24.18 | Cryect | ping coordinates are fixed |
| 14:24.20 | Fin | hooray for you, jme |
| 14:24.29 | Cryect | yes when you first login the ping coordinates coorelate to 0,0,0 |
| 14:24.34 | Cryect | I mean 0,0 no z >_> |
| 14:24.39 | Fin | does it mess up the ability to actually use pings? |
| 14:24.40 | jme | yeah it was cool, except when i was on the phone during big bad wolf |
| 14:24.49 | Cryect | No, its completely passive |
| 14:25.00 | [Ammo] | it doesn't ping others either? |
| 14:25.06 | krka | the players ping their own 0,0? |
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| 14:25.08 | Cryect | no, pinging of others |
| 14:25.14 | krka | and everyone else picks it up? |
| 14:25.19 | Cryect | No, the value is initialized to 0,0 |
| 14:25.30 | Cryect | the command to return the current ping position always works |
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| 14:25.38 | krka | oooh... you can do that? |
| 14:25.38 | Cryect | so whenever someone pings you calculate the delta |
| 14:25.45 | Cryect | and use the deltas to figure out player coord |
| 14:25.48 | krka | right |
| 14:26.47 | Cryect | There is a few technical issues of course with various parts but the least serious ones are worked out already in GPSLib. Just the serious one of pinging the map and relogging |
| 14:26.50 | mitch0 | so, basically, if I get lost, I ping the minimap then check my pos on a real map (assuming the instance map addon is integrated with GPSLib), right? |
| 14:26.56 | Cryect | no |
| 14:26.59 | Cryect | you don't have to ping |
| 14:27.04 | Cryect | there is no pinging involved :p |
| 14:27.08 | mitch0 | hm |
| 14:27.14 | abbat_w | heh |
| 14:27.15 | Cryect | It just uses the ping data to figure it out |
| 14:27.17 | CIA-22 | 03thekarn * r41072 10SanityBags/SanityBags.lua: |
| 14:27.17 | CIA-22 | SanityBags: |
| 14:27.17 | CIA-22 | Fixed the status bar width not being set on bag init. |
| 14:27.27 | mitch0 | but where does the ping data come from? |
| 14:27.34 | abbat_w | someone want to implement gpslib into cartographer instance maps? |
| 14:27.37 | Cryect | the function for your ping position is always there |
| 14:27.41 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41073 10beql/ (beql.lua questlog.lua tracker.lua): |
| 14:27.41 | CIA-22 | beql - |
| 14:27.41 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.41 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.47 | mitch0 | cryect: ah! |
| 14:27.47 | Cryect | it always has to return something |
| 14:27.59 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 14:28.07 | Cryect | they could actually kinda break it if they wanted really easily by initializing it to random values whenever you zone |
| 14:28.40 | Cryect | though of course then you can figure out the starting coords when you zone etc |
| 14:28.56 | TheKarn | oooh Java |
| 14:29.16 | Cryect | you say oooh java like thats a good thing :-p |
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| 14:29.44 | TheKarn | compared to .Net it is imo |
| 14:30.03 | trh | can anyone confirm that ArenaMaster eats memory like crazy? |
| 14:30.06 | Killmore | Kaelten: how I open this file ? |
| 14:30.17 | sylvanaar | you gotta install java first |
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| 14:30.36 | trh | Kaelten: nice.. gonna test it :) |
| 14:30.37 | Kaelten | Killmore: if you can't open it already go to http://sun.com/getjava/ |
| 14:31.08 | trh | Kaelten: will there be a standalone version later? =) |
| 14:31.35 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Yust a quick question. Our MT now has KTM and Threat 1.0 installed. What data do I see from him in Omen? "Show KTM users" is enabled, because lots of guild members use KTM. |
| 14:31.43 | trh | Gandharva: omen |
| 14:31.44 | Kaelten | trh: if we can figure out the issues we had with rcp and its updater |
| 14:32.03 | trh | Gandharva: omen ignores ktm mesasges from people that use omen |
| 14:32.12 | trh | Gandharva: wlel.. threat-1.0 does |
| 14:32.15 | Silviu- | Kaelten what is the svn tab supposed to do ? ;) |
| 14:32.19 | trh | Gandharva: but that's pedantic ;) |
| 14:32.28 | sylvanaar | server is choking |
| 14:32.29 | Gandharva | He only hast Threat 1.0 installed. Not omen. |
| 14:32.30 | Kaelten | Silviu-: it'll show svn working copies |
| 14:32.46 | Silviu- | Ah okay |
| 14:32.49 | trh | Gandharva: ya.. it's not omen, it's Threat-1.0 |
| 14:32.58 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: hrm? |
| 14:32.58 | Gandharva | OK, thanks. |
| 14:33.04 | trh | Gandharva: Threat-1.0 does all communication and threat calculating |
| 14:34.29 | sylvanaar | it was downloading slow, then it started up blank, then the list was disabled until i reloaded it - im guessing that the server was choking |
| 14:34.40 | trh | Kaelten: doesn't start with firefox, java 1.6.0 jre under vista business x64 |
| 14:34.47 | Gandharva | Kaelten: Does WAU2 work with !!!StandaloneLibraries? |
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| 14:35.34 | Kaelten | Gandharva: it's uses dynamic dependency resolution and defaults to no-ext |
| 14:36.12 | Kaelten | trh hrm make sure there isn't an update to java, we've heard a few people saying that the jnlp file doesn't start well without the newest version. |
| 14:36.32 | trh | Kaelten: shows the startup screen, asks for permission due to missing signature |
| 14:36.41 | trh | Kaelten: some hd-reading and stuff.. but nothing |
| 14:36.42 | Gandharva | Kaelten: my logo lokks nice in there :) |
| 14:36.44 | trh | Kaelten: after that |
| 14:36.47 | Gandharva | *looks |
| 14:36.47 | sylvanaar | i had to install service pack 1 or something |
| 14:37.04 | trh | Kaelten: got the latest jre yesterday |
| 14:37.30 | Kaelten | ya the app itself runs with javaj5 but for some reason the jnlp isn't working with less than the newest java |
| 14:37.31 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41074 10Violation/todo.txt: Violation: remove pet broadcasting from todo since it's in. even the (at least) has been realized :) |
| 14:37.31 | sylvanaar | trh oh - you know if you have a permission issue - you might be f**ked |
| 14:37.52 | Birdemani | so mounts no long seem to show up in autobar |
| 14:37.53 | Kaelten | trh: do you use uac? |
| 14:38.00 | trh | Kaelten: yep |
| 14:38.01 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: does wau2 bail out early if wow is running? |
| 14:38.04 | sylvanaar | trh turn it off |
| 14:38.18 | Kaelten | trh: ya turn it off and see if it fixes |
| 14:38.26 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: shouldn't be a factor |
| 14:38.28 | trh | k |
| 14:38.42 | Kaelten | trh: and if it does please submit a bug about it |
| 14:38.42 | sylvanaar | trh its not going to work without signed code |
| 14:38.46 | Gnarfoz | weird then, I get a java window about it being not signed by anyone, I accept, and nothing happens :D |
| 14:39.04 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: vista? |
| 14:39.08 | Gnarfoz | xp |
| 14:39.09 | trh | got a tip where to find the setting to turn off uac? |
| 14:39.19 | sylvanaar | change the security zone to trusted |
| 14:39.20 | trh | ah found it |
| 14:39.22 | Kaelten | trh Control Panel > USer |
| 14:39.28 | trh | found it in the security center |
| 14:39.35 | jme | MainTank wins.. last night all i did was click the MT's target and fire away |
| 14:39.52 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: what sylvanaar said, try setting wowace.com to be in your trusted security zone. |
| 14:40.01 | Kaelten | we're going to get a cert so we can sign the code better |
| 14:40.07 | Gnarfoz | how do I do that for Java? |
| 14:40.16 | trh | ok.. restarting to turn it off.. cu in a second |
| 14:40.23 | sylvanaar | do it in IE |
| 14:40.50 | Wixi | offtopic - anyone know how to delete a file i can see, but when i go to delte it says "is no longer in this location" |
| 14:40.51 | Gnarfoz | IE? |
| 14:40.54 | Gnarfoz | i'm not even using IE :D |
| 14:40.56 | sylvanaar | there is also a Java control panel |
| 14:40.57 | abbat_w | nothing happens? |
| 14:40.59 | abbat_w | it's wrong |
| 14:41.15 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz do it usint the windows Internet control panel |
| 14:41.18 | abbat_w | we already receive you l/p for gmail, icq, ms passport and some another services |
| 14:41.19 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 14:41.35 | Gnarfoz | I'll try, even though I don't see the immediate connection ^^ |
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| 14:41.41 | abbat_w | :) |
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| 14:41.49 | Fin | Wixi: download Process Explorer from http://www.sysinternals.com/ |
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| 14:41.56 | whatsinthename | anyone here have experience with parser 3.0 |
| 14:42.04 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: Sites added to this zone must use the https:// prefix. This prefix assures a secure connection. |
| 14:42.05 | Fin | use the "Find Handle" feature and see if a process currently has it open |
| 14:42.12 | Gnarfoz | oh, there's a checkbox for that. damn |
| 14:42.19 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz uncheck the box |
| 14:42.25 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 14:42.28 | Wixi | Fin: ok thanks |
| 14:42.28 | jme | man, i was about to spec back to BM, then last night silencing shot was actually useful in pulling caster trash to the tank |
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| 14:43.47 | Gnarfoz | no difference |
| 14:43.59 | trh | ok.. trying it again with uac turned off |
| 14:45.01 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz open the java control panel |
| 14:45.14 | deltron | anyone having issues with mods recently? I was having an issue with yata where it either wouldn't display, or I couldn't move it (after deleting sv's) |
| 14:45.42 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz update tab -> click update now |
| 14:46.26 | Gnarfoz | oh, java 6 |
| 14:46.33 | sylvanaar | you fail |
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| 14:46.51 | Kaelten | the java version shouldn't be such an issue :S |
| 14:47.05 | Lywellyn | Okay, I'll get some opinions: What is everyone's favorite buff display mod? |
| 14:47.12 | trh | Kaelten: with java 6 (without update) web start it doesnt work either with uac off or on on my x64 vista business |
| 14:47.15 | Gnancy | Buffalo is mine |
| 14:47.16 | trh | Kaelten: i'm updating java now |
| 14:47.21 | jme | Lywellyn: elkbuffbars |
| 14:47.37 | whatsinthename | i use buffalo |
| 14:47.49 | sylvanaar | web start didnt work for me until i updated via the control panel |
| 14:47.57 | Gnancy | try them both and see Lywellyn |
| 14:48.08 | Lywellyn | Cool. Thanks :D |
| 14:48.29 | jme | buff bars like ct_buffmod and elkbuffbars take up more of your screen space |
| 14:48.36 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar, Kaelten: works with java 6, great. :) |
| 14:48.47 | Kaelten | :s |
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| 14:49.04 | Wixi | Fin: nope no joy "This file is no longer located in ... Verify the item's location and try again" |
| 14:49.06 | Kaelten | glad you got it working, but it shouldn't be dying like this on less than the newest version |
| 14:49.13 | Kaelten | it might explain my issues on mac |
| 14:49.38 | trh | Kaelten: with the updated java it works :) |
| 14:49.39 | sylvanaar | its purely a web start issue |
| 14:49.56 | trh | .. at least it started.. testing if it updates now :) |
| 14:49.57 | Kaelten | ya |
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| 14:50.38 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 14:50.43 | Kaelten | be back in a few mins. |
| 14:51.38 | sylvanaar | i explored click-once for WAU1.x and it had these same issues |
| 14:54.17 | chutwig | are we debugging the new WAU :o |
| 14:54.37 | chutwig | because i sure do have a lot of experience fixing retarded java bugs with OS X |
| 14:54.51 | Lywellyn | what about the new WAU is broken? I just downloaded 1.9.3 (seems I'm the first?) and it worked fine for me |
| 14:55.00 | Gnarfoz | Lywellyn: nothing |
| 14:55.01 | krka | ace has no retarded bugs! |
| 14:55.02 | vrak | it's java |
| 14:55.03 | krka | only hidden features |
| 14:55.07 | chutwig | javahh! |
| 14:55.16 | Gnarfoz | Lywellyn: actually, it's the last stable release, if you had read the changelog ;) |
| 14:55.26 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41075 10Violation/ (Violation.lua locales/enUS.lua): Violation: make sure all strings are localized. |
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| 14:58.06 | sylvanaar | Lywellyn WAU2 is what we were talking about |
| 14:58.13 | Wixi | Fin: Thanks for your help i have solved it now, little program i found called Unlocker can deal with it fyi |
| 14:58.17 | Gnarfoz | he's talking about 1.9.3 |
| 14:58.26 | Gnarfoz | or rather, he mixed it up or whatever |
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| 14:59.50 | sylvanaar | some folks were having issues so i added some code to print out the errors thats why there's a 1.9.3 |
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| 15:01.04 | sylvanaar | no more features going in except for when they add the url source info to the zip files |
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| 15:02.20 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: I tried WAUs new feature "Automatic Dependancy Download", deinstalled !!!SAL and updated again. But Talismonger 3.0 didn't get installed. It's used by Cartographer_Mining. |
| 15:02.48 | Gandharva | Everything else worked fine. |
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| 15:03.58 | trh | Gandharva: is the .toc of cartographer_mining correct? |
| 15:04.28 | Gandharva | I'll have a look. What entry is needed? |
| 15:04.38 | durcyn | Cartographer_Mining.toc:## OptionalDeps: Ace2, Babble-2.2, Talismonger-3.0, Cartographer_Notes, Cartographer_Professions |
| 15:04.42 | durcyn | that one ^ |
| 15:04.55 | ^d|2^ | anyone having problems with wowaceupdater 1.9.x? |
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| 15:05.10 | trh | does it maybe use X-Embeds? |
| 15:05.35 | Gandharva | no |
| 15:05.37 | [Ammo] | probably |
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| 15:06.49 | durcyn | let's find out. |
| 15:08.12 | Gandharva | here is the full .toc of Cartographer_Mining if this helps: http://ace.pastey.net/58929 |
| 15:08.14 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41076 10Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Mining.toc: Cartographer_Mining: Add X-Embeds: Babble-2.2, Talismonger-3.0 |
| 15:08.26 | durcyn | try in about 15 minutes once the zip script runs |
| 15:09.34 | Gandharva | OK, thanks so far |
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| 15:14.02 | [Liquidor] | Who's in charge of the WAU project? |
| 15:14.07 | chutwig | jebus |
| 15:14.08 | [Liquidor] | Or who's in the project at all? |
| 15:14.21 | chutwig | the first rule of WAU is that you do not talk about WAU |
| 15:14.45 | trh | liqui: look at the about box of wow2 |
| 15:14.50 | trh | wau2 |
| 15:17.49 | sylvanaar | [Liquidor] wau2 is KarlThePagan coding and Kaelten who is the wowace.com admin |
| 15:18.11 | [Liquidor] | Okay. Thanks. |
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| 15:19.12 | KarlThePagan | [Liquidor], any questions we can answer? the channel #wau is setup for the wau project |
| 15:19.30 | trh | KarlThePagan: i submitted 2 "bug" reports =) |
| 15:19.34 | [Liquidor] | Later.... got a movie going on now |
| 15:19.44 | KarlThePagan | thx trh ;) |
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| 15:20.06 | trh | KarlThePagan: although they are more a mix of bug and feature request ;) |
| 15:20.11 | sylvanaar | join #WAU for that stuff |
| 15:20.24 | trh | why not #wau2? ;) |
| 15:20.32 | sylvanaar | whatever |
| 15:20.39 | KarlThePagan | no need imo |
| 15:20.51 | sylvanaar | there is already #wau, thats why i mention |
| 15:20.55 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 15:21.05 | trh | in my opinion wau is a part of the wowace community :) |
| 15:21.17 | KarlThePagan | yadda yadda ;) |
| 15:22.41 | deltron | heh |
| 15:26.45 | Gandharva | durcyn: I worked! :) |
| 15:26.50 | Gandharva | *It |
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| 15:34.10 | cryogen | wow, bulkmail should be renamed to sendsomemailbutchokesonbulkmail |
| 15:35.10 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Nice catch no the default bar texture. That was next on my fixlist :> |
| 15:35.15 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:35.24 | [Ammo] | there is still some more stuff to clean up in the code |
| 15:36.09 | Chompers | any plans to use graphlib in Violation Ammo ? |
| 15:36.17 | [Ammo] | no chompers |
| 15:36.19 | kenlyric | cryogen, did you update today? |
| 15:36.41 | [Ammo] | right now violation is 290kib disembedded with only 12kib increase in a 4 hour 25 man raid with 2 windows shown |
| 15:36.46 | [Ammo] | I don't intend to make it humongous :p |
| 15:36.47 | kenlyric | because that happened to me last night. |
| 15:37.08 | [Ammo] | the 12kib is probably just the data it stores |
| 15:37.12 | Killmore | wow thats nice ammo ! |
| 15:37.15 | Chompers | its got a tiny footprint |
| 15:37.25 | cryogen | kenlyric: no |
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| 15:37.48 | [Ammo] | but someone can always write a separate addon to make graphlib stuff from violation data |
| 15:37.50 | Chompers | not even 'Violation_Graphs' as an extra |
| 15:37.51 | kenlyric | several checkins last night, might want to update... after you forcequit wow |
| 15:37.54 | [Ammo] | since you can call the violation functions |
| 15:37.54 | Chompers | ah riht |
| 15:37.56 | Chompers | *right |
| 15:37.59 | [Ammo] | I am just not going to code it |
| 15:38.12 | cryogen | unfortunate coincidence is that blizzard have fucked up my billing yet again |
| 15:38.16 | [Ammo] | in fact, I'm stripping down violation some more, moving to a more barebones basic install |
| 15:38.19 | [Ammo] | with optional extras and threat etc |
| 15:38.31 | abyssichate | [Ammo]: yesterday I experienced a weird issue with Violation; after a reset - when everyone was idling - Violation registered a really high damage input from a guy (probably the old value before the reset). Can that be caused by the usage of different revisions? |
| 15:38.52 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Verified the window deletion fix. Works. |
| 15:38.53 | [Ammo] | abyssichate: turn of DMM syncing |
| 15:38.58 | [Ammo] | abyssichate: it's broken |
| 15:39.01 | abyssichate | ok |
| 15:39.03 | [Ammo] | that's why I turned it off by default |
| 15:39.13 | [Ammo] | but you might have toggled it |
| 15:39.17 | abyssichate | I did |
| 15:39.19 | abyssichate | I didn't know it was broken |
| 15:39.23 | [Ammo] | it's broken |
| 15:39.36 | Mikk | Problem being users requesting manual syncs? |
| 15:39.44 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 15:39.54 | [Ammo] | problem being the current implementation |
| 15:40.20 | abyssichate | Nobody really uses DMM anymore I guess, those who are not using Violation have SWS installed I gues |
| 15:40.21 | abyssichate | +s |
| 15:40.40 | Chompers | lots of people do, unfortunatly |
| 15:40.53 | [Ammo] | just turn of the DMM spy and not worry about it too much |
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| 15:41.55 | Killmore | My guild is still using damagemeters ;P |
| 15:41.58 | abyssichate | Yeah, I will |
| 15:42.16 | abyssichate | My guild is like half SWS half Violation |
| 15:42.24 | Shirik | violation? |
| 15:42.40 | abyssichate | luckily 90% uses Omen instead of KTM |
| 15:45.33 | durcyn | Roartindon: ping |
| 15:46.10 | Roartindon | durcyn: What's up? |
| 15:46.24 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41077 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fix update notifier |
| 15:46.54 | durcyn | Roartindon: new WAU pulls in deps based on x-embeds. aloft has it in optionaldeps and embeds.xml, but not X-Embeds. mind if i toss it in there? |
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| 15:47.13 | durcyn | er, by it i mean babble |
| 15:47.46 | Roartindon | durcyn: I'll add it now. |
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| 15:48.25 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41078 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: only warn someone about an update once. |
| 15:48.37 | durcyn | that'll do too. vim seems to hate those damn utf8 characters here anyway. |
| 15:48.56 | Roartindon | hmm.. aloft has it in OptionalDeps, not in X-Embeds |
| 15:49.04 | Roartindon | And I'm not embedding all of Babble-2.2 either..... |
| 15:49.31 | kenlyric | does that new option in wau eventually get rid of the need for SAL? |
| 15:49.38 | Mikk | yes |
| 15:49.49 | Mikk | when people have fixed their x-embeds anyway |
| 15:50.11 | durcyn | right. but there's no individual babble packages afaik. so if you toss it in embeds, WAU will pull down all of babble, and your optionaldeps can handle the individual babble deps. |
| 15:50.14 | mikma | where is viewing room in scholomance? |
| 15:50.27 | mikma | and crusader square in stratholme |
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| 15:50.31 | Roartindon | So should I list Babble-2.2 as an X-Embeds even if I don't embed all of the bits of it? |
| 15:50.44 | durcyn | Roartindon: That's my understanding. |
| 15:50.51 | kenlyric | you have to kill that guy to get the key to the viewing room. the spider guy. |
| 15:51.00 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41079 10beql/tracker.lua: beql - Revoked the add quest without objectives as it doubled the quest entry in the tracker |
| 15:51.03 | kenlyric | rattlegore? |
| 15:51.08 | durcyn | he's an undead, and yes |
| 15:51.15 | kenlyric | he's still a spider |
| 15:51.15 | durcyn | er, skeleton, not spider |
| 15:51.15 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41080 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: add the update warning to the tooltip hint as well. |
| 15:51.22 | kenlyric | isn't he? |
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| 15:51.31 | kenlyric | or surrounded by them? |
| 15:51.39 | kenlyric | damn it's been too long :) |
| 15:51.41 | durcyn | nope. bunch of spiders in the trash before the door though. |
| 15:51.45 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41081 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Dispel.lua): |
| 15:51.45 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 15:51.45 | CIA-22 | - Added Waterfall-1.0 as X-Embeds |
| 15:51.45 | CIA-22 | - Added Babble-2.2 as X-Embeds |
| 15:51.46 | CIA-22 | - Changed Dispel internal module name to "Dispel" instead of "Dispellers" |
| 15:51.49 | nadas | hmm, anyone know a mod that allows me to show multiple item tooltips at the same time? (besides MultiTip) |
| 15:52.16 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9319 for that quest, mkima |
| 15:52.57 | mikma | kenlyric: yeah, Lightheaded <3 |
| 15:53.07 | mikma | but i need to know where the placeas are in the instances |
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| 15:53.25 | durcyn | mikma: crusader square is before the entrance to the human section on the front side, iirc |
| 15:53.33 | durcyn | a 70 can solo most of the way to it |
| 15:53.36 | mikma | okiedokie, thanks |
| 15:53.44 | mikma | that tells me i need to take the main entrance :) |
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| 15:56.32 | liquiem | need addon that adds the ping sound from hs fountains back into game =) |
| 15:56.44 | Shirik | hs? |
| 15:56.45 | Mikk | gifv pingwell back! |
| 15:56.52 | Mikk | bloody bastards blizz |
| 15:56.55 | liquiem | healthstone |
| 15:56.58 | Shirik | oh |
| 15:57.02 | Shirik | they took that out? |
| 15:57.03 | Mikk | pingpingpingpignpingpnig |
| 15:57.07 | liquiem | yes :/ |
| 15:57.14 | Shirik | :( |
| 15:57.21 | Shirik | it was fun listening to the gruul group fight over them |
| 15:57.30 | Shirik | dingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingding *disappear* |
| 15:57.42 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41082 10Cartographer_Fishing/Cartographer_Fishing.toc: Cartographer_Fishing: Add X-Embeds: Babble-2.2, Talismonger-3.0 |
| 15:57.46 | liquiem | another invention that lasted just one minor patch ^^ |
| 15:58.30 | sbu | or ping-on-success would be fine - so its useful and NOT that annoying :p |
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| 15:58.37 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41083 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: make the update hint stand out more. |
| 15:58.37 | sbu | "hey i can click 1 minute!!" |
| 15:58.47 | cryogen | mmm ick |
| 15:58.47 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41084 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc: Cartographer_Herbalism: Add X-Embeds: Babble-2.2, Talismonger-3.0 |
| 15:58.52 | cryogen | just updated and fubar exploded |
| 15:59.29 | Mikk | eek, define exploded |
| 15:59.34 | Antiarc|Work | Morning. |
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| 15:59.42 | Antiarc|Work | Ping-on-success works |
| 15:59.49 | Antiarc|Work | It pings when you get a healthroc |
| 15:59.54 | sbu | yes? |
| 15:59.58 | sbu | oh... |
| 16:00.01 | sbu | then its just fine |
| 16:00.10 | cryogen | exploded as in doesnt work, i guess i shoudl turn lua errors back in, moment |
| 16:00.17 | cryogen | s/in/on/ |
| 16:00.29 | cryogen | meh missing a 2 there |
| 16:01.50 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41085 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc: Cartographer_Herbalism: remove dupe X-Embeds line, wtfo Deformat? |
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| 16:02.51 | cryogen | cannot find a library instance of jostle-2.0 |
| 16:02.52 | cryogen | naughty |
| 16:03.22 | durcyn | cryogen: so install JostleLib. |
| 16:03.29 | cryogen | durcyn: "well duh" |
| 16:03.32 | durcyn | ;) |
| 16:03.39 | cryogen | but i shouldnt have to, thats the point |
| 16:03.48 | durcyn | it's in the embeds. you using wau 1.9.3? |
| 16:03.51 | cryogen | either wua, the deps, or the exterals are broken |
| 16:04.09 | Mikk | Yaknow |
| 16:04.16 | Mikk | I just realized something |
| 16:04.25 | cryogen | pfft, wish theyd stop releasing 2 million versions of wua |
| 16:04.33 | Mikk | The files.wowace scripts should take all X-Embeds and move them to "Dependencies" |
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| 16:05.02 | durcyn | Mikk: doesn't work with embeds. unfulfilled Dependencies cause addons to not load. |
| 16:05.14 | Mikk | Err, sorry, only said half the sentence |
| 16:05.30 | Mikk | The files.wowace scripts should take all X-Embeds and move them to "Dependencies" when making disembedded versions of the addons |
| 16:05.33 | durcyn | OptionalDeps is the correct location, but OptionalDeps doesn't always match the addonname for unpacked libs like Babble/PT |
| 16:05.45 | durcyn | hence both should be populated |
| 16:05.50 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41086 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added "Seethe" - see http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=41520 |
| 16:05.55 | Mikk | If OptionalDeps doesn't match addon names, the optdep is wrong |
| 16:05.59 | durcyn | nope. |
| 16:06.04 | [Ammo] | Mikk: any luck with the rightclick report menu? |
| 16:06.05 | Mikk | They can't go around optdepping e.g. "Babble-Boss" |
| 16:06.07 | durcyn | OptionalDeps matches addonname. X-Embeds matches packagename. |
| 16:06.08 | [Ammo] | or want me to haxor it in |
| 16:06.22 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Feel free if you're free. I'm working on the underline again |
| 16:06.27 | [Ammo] | I'm not free |
| 16:06.29 | Mikk | Should be simple as heck to do |
| 16:06.33 | [Ammo] | I'm drinking beer |
| 16:06.33 | Mikk | I'll fix then |
| 16:06.37 | Mikk | Haha |
| 16:06.38 | Mikk | Bastard |
| 16:06.44 | [Ammo] | well it probably needs to be nil'd out properly upon window deleting |
| 16:06.46 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 16:06.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41087 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatBuffsData.lua: Threat-1.0: Added "Seethe" (see http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=41520) |
| 16:06.49 | durcyn | Mikk: My Babble-2.2 toc is empty. Why should I OptDep it when the meat is in Babble-Boss? |
| 16:07.01 | [Ammo] | since it'll be a reference to another part in the aceoptions table |
| 16:07.08 | [Ammo] | at least that would be my solution |
| 16:07.19 | cryogen | wish theyd make a changelog for wua too(or make it easily findable if there is one i missed) |
| 16:07.29 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Should get nuked just fine as is? |
| 16:07.36 | durcyn | cryogen: should be in the source zip |
| 16:07.45 | [Ammo] | Mikk: nuked in the way that it is NUKED |
| 16:07.49 | [Ammo] | ie removed from the original menu as well |
| 16:07.52 | Mikk | oh oups |
| 16:07.53 | ^d|2^ | does anyone know why the latest WoWAceUpdater wont work for me? just get an error starting with "Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: Unable to connect to the remote server --->" |
| 16:07.55 | [Ammo] | as the table is nil'd out and recycled :p |
| 16:08.02 | ^d|2^ | wont show any addons at all |
| 16:08.03 | [Ammo] | hence the exception :) |
| 16:08.05 | Mikk | ya that's not good :> |
| 16:08.12 | Mikk | righto =) |
| 16:08.26 | [Ammo] | and the reference needs to be updated when the view switches |
| 16:08.26 | Antiarc|Work | ^d|2^: That sounds like it couldn't connect to the server |
| 16:08.28 | [Ammo] | other than that shrug |
| 16:08.29 | durcyn | ^d|2^: did you update the dll or just the exe? |
| 16:08.32 | Antiarc|Work | so it couldn't find a list of addons to update. ;) |
| 16:08.41 | cryogen | durcyn: right, the source, should have thought of that |
| 16:08.52 | ^d|2^ | both durcyn |
| 16:08.56 | cryogen | also, it doesnt seem to have installed jostlelib(it being wua 1.9.x) |
| 16:09.35 | cryogen | i shall have to log in to verify that though |
| 16:09.35 | ^d|2^ | i guessed that much Antiarc|Work :P |
| 16:09.45 | ^d|2^ | but why? never had a problem with any previous versions |
| 16:10.06 | ^d|2^ | 2 friends tested it also |
| 16:10.12 | ^d|2^ | works fine for 1 and same error for the other |
| 16:10.33 | Antiarc|Work | If the server's under heavy load, that'd do it. |
| 16:10.50 | ^d|2^ | i think its more to it than that |
| 16:10.56 | ^d|2^ | theres alot more to the error |
| 16:11.22 | cryogen | durcyn: aalright, 1.9.x did the necessary voodoo to make it work :) |
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| 16:12.39 | ^d|2^ | http://www.pl0p.adsl24.co.uk/sduff/error.txt |
| 16:12.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:12.46 | ^d|2^ | theres the full error text if that helps at all :P |
| 16:12.48 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41088 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua Aloft.toc): |
| 16:12.48 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 16:12.48 | CIA-22 | - Added Babble-2.2 to X-Embeds |
| 16:12.48 | CIA-22 | - Slight optimizations to the initial frame capturing code |
| 16:12.55 | Kaelten | back |
| 16:13.26 | sbu | Roartindon: can you increate the player-to-target nameplate range? :p |
| 16:13.31 | sbu | *increase |
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| 16:13.48 | Roartindon | sbu: Nope, that's controlled by the game |
| 16:13.55 | subsonic | Wow, a lot of people |
| 16:14.00 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41089 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: Fiddle a bit with underlineFrame to make it display better in very low UIscales. Now it'll appear as faded doubleline once in a while in those lower UIscales instead, but I guess thats' better, eh? |
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| 16:14.15 | sbu | Roartindon: combatlog range is also controlled by the game ;) |
| 16:14.26 | subsonic | I'm surprised the wowaceupdater isn't in the files section |
| 16:14.30 | Roartindon | sbu: Yes, but there's a CVar for that, there's no CVar for nameplate range |
| 16:14.33 | subsonic | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.41 | Mikk | subsonic: nope, it's not there |
| 16:14.51 | Mellow_ | has anybody experienced error in the new WAU? |
| 16:14.56 | subsonic | Mikk: where do I get it? |
| 16:14.57 | Mikk | define new |
| 16:14.58 | Mikk | 2.0? |
| 16:14.59 | jme | subsonic: www.wowace.com/wau2 |
| 16:15.08 | Mikk | that's the 2.0 beta |
| 16:15.11 | Mellow_ | 1.9.3.365 |
| 16:15.13 | Mikk | you want 1.9 for stable |
| 16:15.14 | jme | ah |
| 16:15.17 | jme | my bad |
| 16:15.25 | subsonic | is there a non web one? |
| 16:15.35 | Mikk | http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater |
| 16:15.39 | Mikk | non... web? |
| 16:15.53 | sbu | java 'offline' :p |
| 16:16.20 | stavmar_ | does ventrilo work with Mac OS |
| 16:16.20 | subsonic | the jnlp extension threw me off |
| 16:16.39 | Mikk | stavmar_: 2.2 does. but 2.2 servers cost money. 2.1 servers are free. |
| 16:16.45 | Mellow_ | since 1.8.51 wau doesnt work for me |
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| 16:17.09 | Roartindon | stavmar_: yes, there's an OSX ventrilo client |
| 16:17.14 | stavmar_ | i though all ventrilo servers were free? |
| 16:17.21 | stavmar_ | i mena cost money, lol |
| 16:17.21 | Mikk | 2.2 servers cost $ |
| 16:17.22 | sbu | 'free' for 8 user |
| 16:17.26 | durcyn | Roartindon: get a new icon for assessment yet? =P |
| 16:17.33 | sbu | Mikk: is 2.1 still avaibale? |
| 16:17.37 | Mikk | yes |
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| 16:17.42 | Roartindon | durcyn: Not yet, I'll get one done soon :) |
| 16:17.44 | Mikk | dunno if it's available from their web site per say |
| 16:17.48 | Mikk | but it's out there |
| 16:17.51 | subsonic | stavmar_: nope, but fortunately, 2.2 patch will have voice chat |
| 16:18.09 | stavmar_ | subsonic: well i am not sure that will be a good solution |
| 16:18.43 | Kaydeethree | meh. considering I don't have a mic anyway it's not like I care. I just listen, at least I can control it in wine without having to exit out of wow |
| 16:18.52 | Kaydeethree | s/can/will be able to/ |
| 16:18.58 | subsonic | oh man, wau from sourceforge needs .net? :( |
| 16:19.05 | Kaydeethree | ya, :( |
| 16:19.10 | Kaydeethree | why I don't run it |
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| 16:19.18 | subsonic | .net is so bloated |
| 16:19.34 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41090 10Expo/Expo.toc: Expo: ninja-commit updated toc with correct X-Embeds. |
| 16:19.43 | Mellow_ | you can fetch your addons via script |
| 16:20.05 | jme | can anyone access the svn repo for checking out addons? |
| 16:20.09 | durcyn | if you're going to leech from files.wowace.com, you should really use WAU. |
| 16:20.21 | durcyn | bandwidth aint' free, so let it pull the advert or send in $$ to the tipjar |
| 16:20.25 | subsonic | how much easier it is to build addons with ace than without? |
| 16:20.49 | durcyn | subsonic: anyone can write shitty code with or without a framework. or good code, for that matter. |
| 16:20.58 | Antiarc|Work | subsonic: Depends on what you're wanting to do. |
| 16:21.07 | Antiarc|Work | Ace makes some things easier, but makes other things complex. |
| 16:21.12 | subsonic | ahh |
| 16:21.17 | Mellow_ | does wau pull ads? |
| 16:21.21 | Mikk | wau2 does |
| 16:21.22 | Antiarc|Work | wau2 does |
| 16:21.33 | Antiarc|Work | The bandwidth usage is insane |
| 16:21.35 | trh | kaelten had a 1k $ server bill last month |
| 16:21.37 | subsonic | I don't have time to write mods, so doesn't matter that much to me :) |
| 16:21.38 | Mellow_ | i havent played with wau2 |
| 16:21.43 | jme | nevermind, found the svn url on the wiki |
| 16:21.45 | Kaydeethree | oh antiarc, have you gotten a bug report for omen along the lines of players are showing the wrong class colors? |
| 16:21.50 | Mikk | i'll certainly be using wau2 just for the ads, regardless |
| 16:22.07 | Mikk | might even click one or two :O |
| 16:22.17 | Mellow_ | hm |
| 16:22.22 | Kaelten | well for those who want to try it out http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 16:22.26 | Antiarc|Work | Kaydeethree: When did you last update? |
| 16:22.26 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41091 10IDCard/IDCard.toc: IDCard: ninja-commit updated toc with OptDeps and X-Embeds correctly set |
| 16:22.31 | Antiarc|Work | I fixed that...two nights ago |
| 16:22.39 | trh | and if ever a user uses my donate button i'll forward that money too :) |
| 16:22.42 | Kaydeethree | Omen-r40947.zip |
| 16:22.47 | trh | (but i want to see first if anyone ever does use it :) |
| 16:23.07 | Kaelten | :) good luck on that |
| 16:23.37 | subsonic | I get an error with wau2 |
| 16:23.48 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41092 10beql/ (beql.lua tracker.lua): |
| 16:23.48 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 16:23.48 | CIA-22 | - readded the ability to add quests without objectives to tracker |
| 16:23.48 | CIA-22 | - some bugfixes |
| 16:24.15 | Mikk | subsonic: Good, report it to Kaelten. He'll want to know. |
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| 16:24.33 | Mellow_ | i could offer my server, but im from hungary, and my bandwith is pretty slow let say 2-3meg/s for other countries |
| 16:24.34 | kenlyric | lol! |
| 16:24.37 | subsonic | Well, i don't have wow installed on this machine, maybe it's upset about that :) |
| 16:24.45 | kenlyric | I hit "known bugs" and wow said "fatality" :) |
| 16:25.09 | kenlyric | hmmm [2007/06/21 12:24:02-509-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Frenzy Effect" does not exist. still? |
| 16:25.37 | kenlyric | bah! classtimers problem. |
| 16:25.44 | Antiarc|Work | Kaydeethree: Hrm. I thought I fixed that one :/ |
| 16:26.01 | Kody- | Do any AtlasLoot authors hang out in here? |
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| 16:26.29 | Kaydeethree | next time I'm in raid I'll take a screencap. it was semi-consistent, though. one specific warrior was showing as a pally, our boomkin looked like a mage, etc... |
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| 16:27.11 | Mellow_ | ok i got it |
| 16:27.13 | durcyn | Kaydeethree: well, there's your problem. who invites balance druids to raids? |
| 16:27.33 | Kaydeethree | meh, he keeps up with the mages so we're not complaining |
| 16:27.42 | Kaydeethree | free 5% crit is nice too |
| 16:27.52 | Mikk | stat him on a bossfight tbh |
| 16:27.59 | Mikk | that's where boomkins go oom and lose |
| 16:28.35 | trh | head boomkins got major aggro problems =) |
| 16:28.39 | trh | heard |
| 16:28.56 | Mikk | only when they play like schmucks and frontload a starfire cast |
| 16:28.57 | trh | never seen one anywhere except dancing on me after they ganked me |
| 16:29.00 | Mikk | (start casting even before the pull starts) |
| 16:29.01 | Kaydeethree | they're just like mages before we got invis... we lose aggro with /real/ death |
| 16:29.15 | Antiarc|Work | Kaydeethree: Please do. I'm annoyed that one hasn't gone away yet. |
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| 16:29.41 | Mikk | i can pull aggro lots on my warlock by frontloading soulfire too :P |
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| 16:30.26 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41093 10Omen/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): Omen: Added Waterfall external |
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| 16:37.40 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Btw, is there any reason why Vio doesn't support acedb profiles? |
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| 16:39.21 | Chompers | less memory usage i guess Mikk |
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| 16:42.03 | Mikk | acedb tends to be loaded anyway. poor excuse if so, imo. |
| 16:42.23 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: so good news is Omen seemes more accurate on VR last night |
| 16:42.39 | NeoTron | more accurate than KTM if I understand one tank correctly. Still no entirely accurate though |
| 16:42.52 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Did you try out the raidleader variable settings? |
| 16:43.10 | NeoTron | I didn't no. |
| 16:43.20 | Antiarc|Work | Did it seem to be over or underestimating? |
| 16:43.27 | NeoTron | as we haven't really killed him before I don't feel we're necessarily the best to do that :) |
| 16:43.36 | NeoTron | and I don't know, I wasn't watching that much. I can ask |
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| 16:44.02 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. Thanks for the update :) |
| 16:44.38 | Antiarc|Work | So I was benchmarking Mind Control last night |
| 16:44.45 | Antiarc|Work | And I think Mind Control Rank 3 is about 5.5k threat |
| 16:45.12 | NeoTron | damn |
| 16:45.25 | NeoTron | no wonder mobs like the priest a whole lot when it breaks... |
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| 16:46.03 | kenlyric | mind control is all the threat. |
| 16:46.31 | kenlyric | I like that joke in the tooltip where it lasts more than 10 seconds. |
| 16:47.46 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41094 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 16:47.46 | CIA-22 | Recount - Adds few more spells to the TickTime (where tick times are stored for spells not equal to 3 seconds) |
| 16:47.46 | CIA-22 | -Fixes a bug with the graph |
| 16:48.19 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r41095 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Bugfix. |
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| 16:49.01 | Cryect | NeoTron, how the graph window work out? |
| 16:49.30 | sbu | kenlyric: well its fine w/ more +spellhit |
| 16:49.47 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 16:50.32 | kenlyric | I had an insane 11% spellhit on razuvious. still, piece of crap! |
| 16:50.52 | Cryect | ummm they never broke early on razuvious unless it was User Error |
| 16:50.58 | Cryect | and well thats the priests fault :-p |
| 16:51.03 | Cryect | wellt hey did occasionally |
| 16:51.09 | kenlyric | yes, they did. |
| 16:51.10 | Cryect | but just the occasional you expect from 1% |
| 16:51.12 | Cryect | No... |
| 16:51.18 | kenlyric | and yes, I knew about idiotic range issues. |
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| 16:51.19 | Cryect | Its called you moved them out of range |
| 16:51.39 | Cryect | Shrug so everyone else it working fine for has nothign to do with you :-p |
| 16:52.14 | kenlyric | 1% is not 0% |
| 16:52.38 | Cryect | 1% isn't that high |
| 16:52.51 | Cryect | and its 1% every heartbeat as well |
| 16:53.03 | harl|WoW | anything known to be wrong with Cartographer's icon tooltips ? they don't seem to show for me at all. could it be, the icon database has gotten to large or something ? |
| 16:53.05 | kenlyric | 1% is high when mind control already hates you. |
| 16:53.12 | Codayus | It's probably a 1% per heartbeat, right. So it depends what the heartbeat rate is. |
| 16:53.26 | kenlyric | like my 50 second shackle which has never lasted longer than 20 seconds. |
| 16:53.32 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41096 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Only do a list clear on player target change; no need to do it on targettarget or targettargettarget change. |
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| 16:54.00 | Codayus | My shackle usually lasts the duration if I remember to wear my hit gear. .....this doesn't happen all that often.... >< |
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| 16:54.27 | Codayus | Speaking of MC threat, I seem to recall testing it, oh, months ago and it seemed like it generated threat after it broke. |
| 16:54.49 | Codayus | As in... MC, it breaks, tank taunts, taunt wears off, priest regains aggro. |
| 16:55.05 | Cryect | should have about a 82% chance for Mind COntrol to last 1 minute and any strategy should depend on it of course breaking earlier |
| 16:55.20 | NeoTron | Cryect: so the good news is it's great. The bad news is that your addon covers the idea I had for an addon (live dps graph stuff :) |
| 16:55.31 | NeoTron | Cryect: only think I'm missing is a raid-wide live view |
| 16:55.40 | NeoTron | i.e total raid dps graph |
| 16:55.40 | NeoTron | etc |
| 16:55.54 | Cryect | you can get that |
| 16:56.00 | Cryect | Alt everyone on to the graph |
| 16:56.03 | Cryect | Then click stack |
| 16:56.07 | Cryect | and thats raid DPS |
| 16:56.10 | Cryect | at the very top |
| 16:56.22 | Cryect | then you can integrate that to see Raid damage |
| 16:56.44 | NeoTron | does that work for the ctrl-click view though? |
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| 16:57.18 | Cryect | Ah no |
| 16:57.31 | Cryect | You mean realtime graphs okay :-p |
| 16:57.39 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 16:57.39 | Cryect | I was thinking the graph window |
| 16:57.43 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41097 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added a skin option to toggle short number display (4.3k vs 4,302) |
| 16:57.51 | kenlyric | ug, sedatedChipmunk, wake up. bulkmail continues to randomly lose PT3 sets! |
| 16:58.05 | whatsinthename | i need some help with parser-3.0 if neone has experience with it |
| 16:58.05 | NeoTron | considering what's there now it should be almost trivial to implement |
| 16:58.09 | Antiarc|Work | Codayus: That's because threat changes don't apply to CC'd mobs |
| 16:58.11 | Antiarc|Work | And MC is CC |
| 16:58.19 | Antiarc|Work | And until recently, Taunt had no effect on CCd mobs |
| 16:58.26 | Cryect | Yeah its pretty trivial besides I have to add some special cases |
| 16:58.48 | kenlyric | mouseover sunder armor probably wouldn'tt work on MC, but it works on shackle. |
| 16:58.58 | NeoTron | it was pretty sick to see that my dps, while actually dpsing, was well over 2000 at times |
| 16:59.05 | Antiarc|Work | You can't sunder an MCd mob anyway... |
| 16:59.09 | Antiarc|Work | ...since the mob is friendly. |
| 16:59.28 | Antiarc|Work | I've made a determination |
| 16:59.34 | Cryect | you presunder the mob :-p |
| 16:59.40 | Antiarc|Work | And that determination is "screw magtheridon for his bounce->cleave crap" |
| 16:59.41 | Cryect | it still keeps the threat from before |
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| 16:59.50 | Cryect | haha Antiarc|Work :-p |
| 16:59.57 | Antiarc|Work | I'm melee, and without fail, earthquake bounces me in front of him, and then I take a 20k cleave. |
| 16:59.58 | Cryect | have all your melee move out during the bounce |
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| 17:00.15 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: It's...pretty unreal how he always puts us in front of him |
| 17:00.26 | Antiarc|Work | We had our DPS warrior intervene a priest that was a billion yards away from Mag |
| 17:00.32 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: he loves you |
| 17:00.33 | Antiarc|Work | And he still ended up in front of Mag and ate a cleave. |
| 17:00.36 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:00.42 | Antiarc|Work | Killed me and him in one shot. Bye-bye 2000 raid DPS. |
| 17:00.46 | Cryect | Shield Wall for every bounce! |
| 17:00.51 | Codayus | Antiarc|Work: Um, no, I meant, once MC breaks and there's no CC, some tests I did appeared to show the priest was still generating threat. |
| 17:00.52 | Antiarc|Work | Rogue. :( |
| 17:00.57 | Cryect | Evasion for you! |
| 17:01.02 | Antiarc|Work | Codayus: Oh, I misunderstood. |
| 17:01.03 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 17:01.18 | Codayus | However, this was a long time ago. |
| 17:01.18 | Fisker- | anyone know the 1337'est in portal and download technology? |
| 17:01.39 | Fisker- | I pretty much wanna make a personal website where i can upload some of my programs + random stuff |
| 17:01.43 | Codayus | And in my experience, MC gets buggest a bit about every other patch anyhow, so even if it *did*... |
| 17:01.51 | Fisker- | But it's not easy finding complete packages |
| 17:01.52 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41098 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua): Omen: Fix a typo. |
| 17:02.08 | ZealotOnAStick | fisker: e107 and Joomla are both pretty easy to set up. |
| 17:02.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Can also pretty easily adapt a blog like WordPress |
| 17:02.32 | Fisker- | i'm not looking for easy |
| 17:02.33 | Fisker- | :P |
| 17:02.41 | Fisker- | Just looking for a complete solution |
| 17:02.49 | Antiarc|Work | I'd just go with WordPress, I think. |
| 17:02.59 | ZealotOnAStick | note sure about Joomla, but e107 is a complete CMS. |
| 17:03.08 | trh | joomla has more security leaks than swiss cheese |
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| 17:03.28 | Fisker- | that was kinda what i heard too |
| 17:03.30 | ZealotOnAStick | oh noez! Secure teh cheeze! |
| 17:03.46 | Fisker- | and i'm not in the mood for restoring backups every 2 weeks |
| 17:04.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I use e107 for my personal site and my guild's portal/news page, it's ok. |
| 17:04.39 | ZealotOnAStick | The forum on it isn't as strong as we needed, but it's not terrible either. |
| 17:05.09 | trh | i spent the last two months periodically fixing *stupid* security leaks in a mambo (joomla predecessor) installation |
| 17:05.14 | trh | it's written horrible |
| 17:05.45 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41099 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: updated spell list for paladins, hope these work... |
| 17:05.47 | kenlyric | our security guys refuse to even look at a CMS written in PHP. |
| 17:05.54 | Cryect | NeoTron: Going to add Group ones as well |
| 17:06.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41100 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatLogger.lua: Threat-1.0: Remove party-only specification from cast and damage handling. Should allow for capture of mob abilities like VR's knock away now for postmortem analysis. |
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| 17:06.43 | Fisker- | HAI |
| 17:06.46 | Fisker- | can i has stdio? |
| 17:06.52 | trh | can anyone explain me why blizzard allowes :SetAlpha() on a secure frame, but doesnt :Hide() ? |
| 17:07.02 | trh | Fisker-: OH NOES! |
| 17:07.10 | Fisker- | INVISIBLE "ERROR!" |
| 17:07.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:07.12 | mitch1 | trh: 'cos even if alpha is 0, it's still clickable |
| 17:07.15 | Kaydeethree | because you can still click on it. if you :hide() it, you can have stacks of secure frames that work like old decursive |
| 17:07.17 | Antiarc|Work | What mitch1 said. |
| 17:07.20 | trh | mitch0: ah.. k |
| 17:07.31 | trh | but if i'd put a frame on top of it |
| 17:07.34 | trh | that'd be clickable to |
| 17:07.38 | *** join/#wowace kmzr (n=rck15@bl11-56-129.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 17:07.40 | trh | and had a higher strata |
| 17:07.42 | Kaydeethree | clickable, but not secure |
| 17:07.44 | trh | sure |
| 17:07.50 | mitch1 | lala, RangeCheck support in DogTag seems to be working |
| 17:07.54 | harl|WoW | +ec |
| 17:07.58 | trh | i want a out of combat warnframe with targetting |
| 17:08.02 | kenlyric | http://www.metadot.com/index.pl?iid=4119 |
| 17:08.03 | trh | and a in combat lock warnframe without |
| 17:11.05 | Iceroth | buffalo2 author around? |
| 17:12.32 | Fisker- | almost never :O |
| 17:12.36 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41101 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: removed Banish from warlock's list, as it probably won't work either |
| 17:13.19 | stavmar_ | is there an alternative to cola light to give you vendor prices on items? Cola ligh is always in teh top 4 of usage on my addons? |
| 17:13.33 | ZealotOnAStick | I use Tuller's SellFish |
| 17:13.44 | Iceroth | is that a yes or no... |
| 17:13.49 | whatsinthename | when a mob giving reputation dies r the mob death and rep gain events simultaneous or there is a time interval between em |
| 17:13.49 | Megalon | who fucked omen 41097 :( |
| 17:13.57 | Megalon | ah |
| 17:13.59 | Megalon | already fixed |
| 17:14.00 | Megalon | :> |
| 17:14.03 | Silviu- | ;))) |
| 17:14.07 | Megalon | in 41098 i hope :c |
| 17:14.37 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r41102 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua: LittleWigs: TK/Freywinn- Fixed erroneous conditional |
| 17:21.05 | Kemayo | stavmar_: I'd second SellFish. The ColaLight author said he was stopping development because he thought SellFish was better, so... |
| 17:21.12 | mitch1 | how often are the zips generated on file.wowace.com? |
| 17:21.52 | stavmar_ | is Sellfish available through the WAU |
| 17:22.09 | Kemayo | stavmar_: Nope. |
| 17:22.16 | stavmar_ | ok thanks |
| 17:22.43 | kenlyric | what about ItemPriceTooltip? |
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| 17:22.49 | kenlyric | that's frequently updated. |
| 17:22.51 | Dustwhisper | if you accidentaly drag a raidmember from raidscreen out onto screen and it gets it's own frame |
| 17:22.53 | Dustwhisper | how do you remove it? |
| 17:22.53 | Kemayo | stavmar_: If you want the bleeding edge, you could get it from http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/ |
| 17:23.01 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r41103 10RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua: RangeCheck: removed stray semicolon :) |
| 17:23.11 | stavmar_ | ok, i use omnicc which Tuller designed as well correct |
| 17:23.17 | Dustwhisper | OH RIGHTCLIKC =d |
| 17:23.20 | Dustwhisper | damn caps |
| 17:23.26 | kenlyric | http://files.wowace.com/ItemPriceTooltip/ |
| 17:23.26 | Fisker- | btw |
| 17:23.29 | Fisker- | lulz of the day |
| 17:23.31 | sedatedChipmunk | cryogen: >8\ |
| 17:23.54 | Fisker- | Someone wanted a netherdrake because he unknowingly quit his 2v2 team to help a friend |
| 17:24.01 | Fisker- | and when he rejoined he had lost his stats lololol |
| 17:24.33 | cryogen | hyperChipmunk: ? o_O |
| 17:24.41 | Fisker- | >:3 hyperChipmunk |
| 17:24.43 | Fisker- | i like you |
| 17:24.46 | hyperChipmunk | hatin' on bulkmail |
| 17:24.49 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
| 17:24.57 | hyperChipmunk | i'm working on it |
| 17:25.06 | kenlyric | did you get to my hate yet? |
| 17:25.18 | hyperChipmunk | yes, but i'm not worried about yours |
| 17:25.21 | kenlyric | cool |
| 17:25.29 | hyperChipmunk | since you're the only one to whom it happens |
| 17:25.29 | kenlyric | what about the one where it blows up wow? |
| 17:25.41 | stavmar_ | kenlyric: you need to have itemprice 1.0 huh for it to work? |
| 17:25.44 | hyperChipmunk | that's a tiny bit more of a concern |
| 17:25.46 | cryogen | hyperChipmunk: ok :) well, it did kinda suck :p seems better now though! |
| 17:26.02 | kenlyric | it only seems to happen on a large mailbox that you've never seen before. |
| 17:26.12 | hyperChipmunk | cryogen: i really don't know what's causing it. nobody's been able to give me a consistent problem |
| 17:26.14 | Fisker- | http://www.steadyhealth.com/Will_anal_sex_make_my_butt_bigger_-t123634-0-asc-0.html <-haha that sneaky bastard |
| 17:26.15 | hyperChipmunk | oh, that one |
| 17:26.16 | kenlyric | if I disable BM, look at the mailbox, and then enable BM, it doesn't explode. |
| 17:26.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 17:26.18 | Fisker- | high five to that guy |
| 17:26.55 | hyperChipmunk | i think it's to do with caching because of the patch |
| 17:27.19 | snurre | http://bayimg.com/fapCPaAAn my babies! |
| 17:27.19 | hyperChipmunk | because after the items load once, it's okay |
| 17:27.49 | cryogen | well i sent a shedload of stuff from one of my chars to a mule |
| 17:27.50 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong snurre |
| 17:27.56 | cryogen | like 50 stacks or so of stuff |
| 17:28.14 | cryogen | it choked when it got to around 30, i logged back in, did it again, it choked after some more, then was fine the third time |
| 17:28.19 | kenlyric | is the other problem only happening to me because I'm the only person running standalone? :) |
| 17:28.23 | cryogen | the number of items didnt seem all that significant |
| 17:28.44 | hyperChipmunk | cryogen: that's exactly the same sequence that others have reported |
| 17:29.02 | snurre | Fisker-: *tastes* nah, I think im doing it just fine ;) |
| 17:29.05 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Throw in some sort of "if GetItemInfo() == nil then wait a bit" check? |
| 17:29.25 | hyperChipmunk | it's a pattern, at least; seems to have to do with the maximum number queued |
| 17:29.51 | cryogen | maybe it's doing it all a bit too fast? |
| 17:30.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I'm gonna try slowing it down a tick |
| 17:30.12 | cryogen | the last mod i used that did something similar was the ct one, and that was significantly slower |
| 17:30.15 | kenlyric | well hey, i got ptreagentfu back. maybe there's hope. |
| 17:30.33 | cryogen | and also allowed only a fixed number of items, perhaps there's a limit there too |
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| 17:30.35 | cryogen | or both |
| 17:30.37 | harl|WoW | standalone what? |
| 17:30.48 | kenlyric | well, I got Misc.Lockboxes back :) |
| 17:31.44 | mitch1 | erm, can someone force a zip generation now? I found a tester and I'd like him to download the newest version. he's not svn-savvy |
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| 17:32.16 | cryogen | ah good fluidframes has stopped using 4M of memory :) |
| 17:32.30 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: Just do an svn export and make a zip for him |
| 17:33.19 | mitch1 | antiarc: how often does it run? (I mean, the generation) |
| 17:33.43 | hyperChipmunk | 20m |
| 17:33.48 | mitch1 | and I don't remember my password to the site I can upload to |
| 17:33.57 | jme | technically they could set it up so that zips are generated every time something is committed |
| 17:34.08 | hyperChipmunk | technically we already did that |
| 17:34.12 | jme | oh :P |
| 17:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | and technically it melted the systiem |
| 17:34.18 | jme | <- nub |
| 17:34.21 | mitch1 | hoho |
| 17:34.28 | jme | yeah that's what i imagined |
| 17:34.58 | mitch1 | did it generate zips intelligently? or generate them all not regarding where the commit was? |
| 17:35.13 | mitch1 | (not that it really matters for me now) |
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| 17:36.22 | mitch1 | oh, it's generated! :) |
| 17:37.28 | Kemayo | It was some sort of synchronization issue with libraries, as I recall. |
| 17:39.26 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r41104 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Removing unused variables. |
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| 17:41.24 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41105 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix for global threat not showing properly. |
| 17:42.11 | mitch1 | should I wait for ckk to merge in my stuff to DogTag, or commit it myself? |
| 17:42.26 | Mech0z | Anyone found out if rank 8 growl is better than rank 9 ? |
| 17:42.26 | mitch1 | it seems to work :) |
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| 17:44.22 | hyperChipmunk | mitch1: if libraries are updated, much pain ensues |
| 17:47.08 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41106 10Recount/ (GUI_Realtime.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 17:47.08 | CIA-22 | Recount - Moves specialized realtime graphs called via /recount to a "realtime" group |
| 17:47.08 | CIA-22 | -Adds specialized raid based realtime graphs that can be called via /recount realtime raid |
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| 17:56.45 | Josh|ma | Hello..does anyone know if there is an ace library with which I can create frames without the need of xml, ex. by calling a function which argument is an array that includes the informations for building frame? I made a library be my own (http://ace.pastey.net/59215), but I'm not so good on doing this, so I want to use another library, if there is one. Thanks for your help in advance! |
| 17:59.38 | TheKarn | Josh|ma, its not quite how you want but you may wanna try uiQuery |
| 18:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | you can create frames with the wow api, too, now |
| 18:00.37 | Josh_Borke | CreateFrame('Frame')! |
| 18:00.43 | Josh_Borke | hyperChipmunk: i think he knows, since he wrote a library ;-) |
| 18:00.55 | TheKarn | WAU2 deleted almost all my addons |
| 18:01.02 | hyperChipmunk | pwnd imo |
| 18:01.07 | Josh_Borke | TheKarn: good thing you backed up, right? |
| 18:01.21 | TheKarn | actually ..... |
| 18:01.24 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 18:01.47 | Cryect | TheKarn guess thats a bug you can add! :-p |
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| 18:02.09 | NeoTron | TheKarn: WAU2 knew you didn't need all those addons |
| 18:02.09 | Fisker- | haha TheKarn |
| 18:02.12 | Fisker- | WAU2 doesn't work for me |
| 18:02.14 | Josh_Borke | Bug: Deletes my addons. steps to reporudec: use WAU2 |
| 18:02.16 | Fisker- | so pwnt |
| 18:02.28 | deltron | lol |
| 18:02.30 | NeoTron | Cryect: I told ppl in the raid about Recount and another guy checked it out after the raid. think he's sold |
| 18:02.37 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: Look in the directory above AddOns/ |
| 18:02.39 | Antiarc|Work | I had it do that to me once |
| 18:02.41 | NeoTron | he likes the DoT uptime metrix (he's a warlock) |
| 18:03.16 | Aenslaed | ckknight: can i request one small change to pitbull? Auras > Highlighting > Curable by me. Can you make that option ignore whether you are shapeshifted or not for druids. The purple curses and green poison borders disappear if i shift into form. |
| 18:04.31 | Fisker- | QQ Kaelten |
| 18:04.31 | Fisker- | com.sun.deploy.net.FailedDownloadException: Unable to load resource: http://www.wowace.com/wau2/updates/WowAceUpdater3.jnlp |
| 18:04.39 | *** part/#wowace sunset (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-28-75.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:04.39 | Cryect | NeoTron: Yeah I like it to. Its an interetsing metric seeing how many avg dots are up at once for a player |
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| 18:04.44 | Kaelten | WowAceUpdater3? |
| 18:04.45 | NeoTron | Cryect: ooh cool raid based graphs :) |
| 18:04.49 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r41107 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 18:04.49 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:04.49 | CIA-22 | - Spell, zhTW update for the stupid change (again) in translation in the new patch. |
| 18:04.58 | Fisker- | that's the exception i get when starting it Kaelten :P |
| 18:05.03 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 18:05.22 | Cryect | WAU3 already wow! |
| 18:05.23 | Cryect | :-p |
| 18:05.43 | *** part/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
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| 18:06.48 | Fisker- | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> |
| 18:06.49 | Fisker- | <jnlp spec="1.0+" codebase="http://www.wowace.com/wau2/updates" href="WowAceUpdater3.jnlp"> |
| 18:06.54 | Fisker- | i guess that means you're doing it wrong? |
| 18:07.06 | kenlyric | now, somebody fix frenzy effect in babble. |
| 18:07.48 | Kaelten | fixing that one |
| 18:07.49 | Kaelten | :s |
| 18:07.52 | Kaelten | bad developer! |
| 18:07.57 | Fisker- | beginners mistake imo |
| 18:08.11 | Fisker- | Although i usually do the same :( |
| 18:08.26 | Fisker- | Especially i tend to do SomeFunction(); |
| 18:08.33 | Fisker- | when i want to make it and not invoke it |
| 18:08.37 | Cryect | heh |
| 18:08.53 | sbu | ckknight: <3 cowtip :) |
| 18:09.06 | Cryect | I often try to copy functions with a : instead of a . :-p |
| 18:09.59 | NeoTron | Cryect: in either case I finally found an addon that replaces sws and minnastats. thanks |
| 18:10.32 | Fisker- | Commercials, in my WAU?! |
| 18:10.41 | Kaelten | yep |
| 18:10.48 | Kaelten | want me to shut off the server isntead? |
| 18:10.58 | Fisker- | Sounds like a lose-lose situation |
| 18:11.00 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: yes :-D |
| 18:11.02 | Fisker- | i'll take it! |
| 18:12.45 | Kaelten | :P |
| 18:13.09 | Chompers | is it a good source of money Kaelten? |
| 18:13.30 | Kaelten | I'm just hoping it pays for the server |
| 18:13.30 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:13.38 | Fisker- | So when do you block WAU1? :P |
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| 18:15.46 | Kaelten | after wau2 goes gold |
| 18:15.54 | snurre | meh, sucks so much ass that i have work tomorrow :( wanna go to fête de la musique at bastille :( |
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| 18:20.56 | sbu | Kaelten: hm - payperview? |
| 18:21.10 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:21.17 | Kaelten | I'd be happy with a penny a download |
| 18:21.32 | hyperChipmunk | that'd make me so poor |
| 18:21.45 | Kaelten | it'd make me fucking rich |
| 18:21.47 | Kaelten | :) |
| 18:21.55 | Kaelten | 30-40k a day |
| 18:22.40 | sbu | Kaelten: is it pay per view or click? |
| 18:22.44 | sbu | or buy? :o |
| 18:23.17 | sbu | hm you need google adsense in there :o |
| 18:24.02 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 18:24.02 | kenlyric | show me only the porn I will buy, please. |
| 18:24.27 | kenlyric | omg abortion. |
| 18:24.31 | kenlyric | it opened a fucking IE window |
| 18:24.35 | kenlyric | hacker |
| 18:25.28 | Kaelten | kenlyric: lol what? |
| 18:25.34 | kenlyric | when I clicked on the ad. |
| 18:25.38 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:25.39 | kenlyric | it opened it in IE. |
| 18:25.54 | Kaelten | probably because ie is easily embedable on windows |
| 18:25.57 | Kaelten | FF not so much |
| 18:26.01 | kenlyric | which means it's calling the browser incorrectly. |
| 18:26.18 | Kaelten | its running an embeded browser frame |
| 18:26.25 | kenlyric | eek |
| 18:26.30 | Kemayo | Why not just launch the browser? |
| 18:26.50 | dodgizzla | Actually, that 1 cent per download is really clever :D |
| 18:27.03 | dodgizzla | If you think about it, it's not much. But it would really sum up |
| 18:27.07 | Kemayo | Opening ad-links in IE sounds like a recipe for users saying "OMG WAU got my computer hacked!" |
| 18:27.12 | Kaelten | dodgizzla: 30-40k a day |
| 18:27.14 | dodgizzla | Hm |
| 18:27.20 | Kaelten | Kemayo: lol |
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| 18:27.22 | trh | i think there was a System. something execution call in java to just execute the website and let the os decide what's right |
| 18:27.25 | dodgizzla | I'd sponsor a mirror then :> |
| 18:27.36 | Kaelten | trh: lol |
| 18:27.41 | deltron | I really would not like it if it used the IE rendering engine |
| 18:27.42 | Kaelten | er dodgizzla lol |
| 18:28.03 | Kaelten | trh: basically I don't think we have complete control over it |
| 18:28.03 | dodgizzla | What? It's all for the community, no? :D |
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| 18:28.12 | Kaelten | dodgizzla: and your new sports car heh? |
| 18:28.22 | kenlyric | lowly users (that's me) expect links to open in whichever manner they do for all other links. |
| 18:28.24 | dodgizzla | Nah, my new yacht :D |
| 18:28.28 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 18:28.31 | kenlyric | errr, all other applications. |
| 18:28.47 | dodgizzla | Hm what was it? 1 Million per meter? Easily achievable in a month |
| 18:28.51 | dodgizzla | Ace makes it happen! |
| 18:29.10 | dodgizzla | Think big! WoWAce cruise! |
| 18:29.11 | Kaelten | kenlyric: ya I think the issue is the click is technically originates from within IE |
| 18:29.20 | kenlyric | probably |
| 18:30.19 | deltron | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=174156 |
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| 18:30.34 | deltron | ^ that's VB, but you get the point heh |
| 18:30.50 | Kaelten | deltron: we aren't progmattically opening any browser. |
| 18:31.29 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r41108 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (ButtonRegistry.lua PvP.lua Sets.lua): |
| 18:31.29 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:31.29 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Arena Season 2 link problem |
| 18:32.03 | deltron | embedding the frame into WAU, I understand heh |
| 18:32.18 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r41109 10AtlasLoot/ (12 files in 8 dirs): |
| 18:32.18 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:32.18 | CIA-22 | - zhTW translation update |
| 18:32.30 | Kaelten | ya we're using RCP and it embeds which ever browser is available on the different platform |
| 18:32.33 | Kaelten | not sure what logic it uses |
| 18:35.32 | *** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 18:35.42 | ven | When clicking on 'Start WAU2' I get a splash screen and after that nothing happens :< |
| 18:36.00 | abyssichate | ven: update your java version |
| 18:36.26 | ven | it's supposed to be up to date, but I'll check on that |
| 18:39.22 | ven | I got Java 1.6.0 installed and it says there's no new version available |
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| 18:40.28 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r41110 10AtlasLoot/PvP/ (GeneralPvP.en.lua GeneralPvP.tw.lua): |
| 18:40.28 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:40.28 | CIA-22 | - Fix icon for "Merciless Gladiator's Cleaver" |
| 18:41.42 | Codayus | Hmmm. Anyone got any suggestions for in-game DKP solutions that don't require people to run a client to bid? |
| 18:42.06 | kenlyric | cellular? :) |
| 18:42.17 | kenlyric | <---- ass |
| 18:42.41 | Codayus | ....hm |
| 18:42.45 | Kebinusan | Codayus: There was a mod called raidbidder its somewhat dated but worked well for me |
| 18:42.52 | Kebinusan | I still use it |
| 18:43.03 | Kebinusan | mostly cause I couldnt find something that didnt require a client |
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| 18:44.33 | Codayus | Hm, clarification. Know one desgined for a FCZS system? :-) |
| 18:45.10 | NeoTron | what the heck is fczs? :P |
| 18:45.17 | durcyn | something zero-sum |
| 18:45.17 | Codayus | Fixed Cost Zero Sum. |
| 18:45.24 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:45.26 | deltron | yep |
| 18:45.32 | deltron | that is what we use |
| 18:45.36 | durcyn | bidder/dkpmon should have plugins for it |
| 18:46.11 | Codayus | Don't want an addon that requires a client. :-( |
| 18:46.29 | alext | well |
| 18:46.37 | alext | its not DKP but ever think about suicide kings for loot distribution |
| 18:46.52 | deltron | SK is what we use for kara :P |
| 18:47.02 | alext | i am thinkin about using it for our 25-mans too |
| 18:47.08 | alext | i was using it when I used to do AQ20 runs |
| 18:47.13 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41111 10Talented/Talented.toc: Talented: fix missing Deformat OptDep in .toc |
| 18:47.17 | alext | worked out real well |
| 18:47.37 | Codayus | For various historical reasons, we use DKP for Kara. <shrug> And yes, I know... |
| 18:47.52 | deltron | you didn't wipe DKP when you started kara? |
| 18:48.19 | mitch1 | you use dkp? |
| 18:48.21 | mitch1 | :) |
| 18:48.40 | deltron | heh if my guild didn't break up, we were going to use EPGP |
| 18:48.50 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r41112 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Small fix to Ammo's change |
| 18:49.11 | Codayus | No we didn't wipe DKP when we started Kara. Yes we use DKP for Kara. Yes...I'm aware. No it wasn't my decision. :-) |
| 18:49.17 | deltron | lol |
| 18:49.22 | deltron | that would be insane |
| 18:49.24 | kenlyric | epic fail |
| 18:49.27 | deltron | because I used to have 600 DKP |
| 18:49.39 | kenlyric | I'd have so much loot. |
| 18:49.46 | kenlyric | dps gear? all mine! |
| 18:50.02 | deltron | Earned: 1647.50 Spent: 1190.00 Adjustment: 26.21 Current: 483.71 |
| 18:50.04 | deltron | lol |
| 18:50.12 | deltron | that's what I ended up with |
| 18:50.13 | kenlyric | when we stopped I had -50dkp. |
| 18:50.14 | Codayus | Actually, what we did was remove all negative DKP and "rescale" everyones DKP so nobody had more than the price of ~1.5 items, max, and most had less than 1 items DKP. So it was close enough to a wipe. |
| 18:50.24 | kenlyric | and that was on the system with really low dkp values. |
| 18:50.49 | kenlyric | did you guys raid up until the moment of the expansion? |
| 18:51.12 | deltron | all I know is that I'm so glad I don't have to track DKP :P |
| 18:51.42 | Codayus | kenlyric: Yes. Actually, we did ONE BETTER. We raided BWL a couple days after the expansion was released. |
| 18:51.52 | kenlyric | raiding sorta petered out with the 1.12 patch on my server. That plus all the news about TBC loot, nobody wanted to raid. |
| 18:52.12 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41113 10Minimalist/Minimalist.toc: Minimalist: ninja-commit revised toc with X-Embeds correctly set. |
| 18:52.26 | kenlyric | so there was a good 2 or 3 month chunk with very little raiding at all. Didn't make a lot of sense to use old dpk. |
| 18:52.26 | Codayus | Mostly because the then-guild leader didn't have the expansion yet, so he more-or-less forced everyone who did to come to BWL. The atmosphere on vent was...pleasent. |
| 18:52.28 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:52.32 | deltron | lol |
| 18:52.36 | Chompers | hey ck |
| 18:52.39 | deltron | nobody wanted to raid pre TBC |
| 18:52.42 | Chompers | cowtips awesome |
| 18:52.44 | kenlyric | oh, so your guild has other, deeper issues. |
| 18:53.05 | ckknight | Aenslaed: please put that on the wish list |
| 18:53.07 | Codayus | Had. The guild leader...left us. :-) |
| 18:53.23 | ckknight | mitch1: gimme a diff |
| 18:53.24 | xt | Antiarc|Work: Omen is really not accurate on VoidReaver now |
| 18:53.41 | Codayus | He got his account banned for gold selling. Losing one of the guild banks was cheap at the price for getting rid of him... |
| 18:53.51 | kenlyric | dkp fails for karazhan because you end up having to give it to the 11 people waiting outside because you have enough for two teams if any tanks would fucking sign on. |
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| 18:53.56 | kenlyric | Or, maybe that was just us. |
| 18:54.00 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Is the raid up to the latest version? |
| 18:54.05 | xt | yeah |
| 18:54.05 | Antiarc|Work | I reverted it to 25% last night |
| 18:54.10 | NeoTron | dkp for kara just seems so pointless |
| 18:54.12 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, you can play with the values if you're a raid leader |
| 18:54.16 | Antiarc|Work | Use...let's see |
| 18:54.25 | NeoTron | I mean most of them time 0-2 ppl at most need any item that drops |
| 18:54.27 | durcyn | i prefer the "don't be a dick" loot system. |
| 18:54.29 | Codayus | DKP for kara...is kinda pointless, because 90% of the time, the only person who wants the drop takes it. |
| 18:54.29 | NeoTron | usually just one person |
| 18:54.34 | ckknight | ravagernl: [HealthPercent?IsLessEqual(80)] |
| 18:54.44 | sylvanaar | i am considering not quitting wow, and maybe server xfering, its so hard now to find a good guild |
| 18:54.44 | ravagernl | lol :P |
| 18:54.48 | Punkie` | Crazy idea, english locales would save quite a bit of memory usage if there was a tiny addon which just returned true to all babble requests yeah? |
| 18:54.48 | Codayus | It does influence loot distribution in 25 mans if you use the same DKP for 10 and 25 man raids. |
| 18:54.53 | kenlyric | durcyn: which is pretty easy to manage with 5 or 10 people. |
| 18:55.00 | ravagernl | i found out already yeah :P |
| 18:55.03 | ckknight | Chompers: glad you like it |
| 18:55.04 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.11 | Punkie` | instead of the users actually needing to have babblespell they could have a teeny tiny one |
| 18:55.14 | Codayus | If it was *just* up to me, I think I'd use loot council for all raids... |
| 18:55.15 | Antiarc|Work | xt: That sets the multiplier for the entire raid, if they're up to date |
| 18:55.16 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: it's hard to find good guilds on other servers too :) |
| 18:55.22 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41114 10Incubator/Incubator.toc: Incubator: add missing X-Embeds to .toc for WAU dependency resolution goodness. Yes, this is a recycled commit message. |
| 18:55.25 | xt | Antiarc|Work: ok, thanks |
| 18:55.25 | Antiarc|Work | So you can set the multiplier as you like to try to find a good value |
| 18:55.35 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Requires raid officership, as a caveat |
| 18:55.44 | deltron | yeah, I used to run a huge guild, TBC basically broke it |
| 18:56.16 | sylvanaar | kenlyric mine never let me raid with them regularly, so i have almost no raid exp post TBC |
| 18:56.25 | Codayus | sylvanaar: Are you a healer? Alliance side? :-) |
| 18:56.31 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: do you suck? ;-) |
| 18:56.35 | deltron | sylvanaar: that sucks :( |
| 18:56.39 | xt | Antiarc|Work: we just had officers go 'uninstall omen, going back to KTM :(((((' hehe |
| 18:56.40 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: which makes it difficult to get into guilds that are recruiting xserver applicatns. |
| 18:56.55 | NeoTron | xt: from what I heard Omen was more accurate than KTM last night |
| 18:57.01 | kenlyric | Codayus: i'd ask if you were recruiting, but you use dkp in karazhan :) |
| 18:57.04 | deltron | I am the only one that uses omen |
| 18:57.05 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Well, it's still in heavy development :) |
| 18:57.05 | deltron | :P |
| 18:57.14 | Codayus | kenlyric: Ouch! |
| 18:57.18 | xt | Antiarc|Work: it was perfect on void reaver the first week, hehe |
| 18:57.19 | Antiarc|Work | So I guess I'd say just ask them to keep that in mind and consider giving it another shot when it's more finished :) |
| 18:57.23 | kaiden | sylvanaar, i wouldn't put up with people not respecting your authoritah |
| 18:57.35 | xt | Antiarc|Work: and yeah, i know..it'll get perfect eventually :) |
| 18:57.37 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: when ? :P |
| 18:57.38 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Heh, lots has changed since then. I might have broken something that needs fixin' ;) |
| 18:57.40 | kenlyric | threaten to introduce hacks into their mods. |
| 18:57.48 | sylvanaar | they would take me on an encounter once maybe twice - thats it |
| 18:57.49 | Codayus | The thing about DKP in karazhan is...if you don't use it, it doesn't make any sense to start. But it doesn't really seem to break anything either, so it's not worth the hassle of scrapping it. |
| 18:57.59 | Antiarc|Work | We're starting TKE this week, so I'll get to debug it first hand. |
| 18:58.08 | Killmore | TKE ? |
| 18:58.17 | deltron | Codayus: dkp hoarding will happen in kara that will be spent elsewhere |
| 18:58.18 | NeoTron | Codayus: as long as it's unrelated to any other DKP tracking it'd probably not break anything |
| 18:58.20 | Chompers | wish i could hand out gear to people and not let them roll on it |
| 18:58.23 | Killmore | the eye |
| 18:58.33 | NeoTron | TK:TE! |
| 18:58.34 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: the eye is fun :) |
| 18:58.43 | deltron | I went last night |
| 18:58.50 | NeoTron | we ripped through the tarash last night |
| 18:58.55 | NeoTron | done it once and it was easy |
| 18:59.00 | Codayus | Actually, we don't seem to have issues with DKP hording. <shrug> |
| 18:59.18 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r41115 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 18:59.18 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 18:59.18 | CIA-22 | - potential bugfix when scanning tradeskills |
| 18:59.19 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r41116 10OpenBankBags/ (. OpenBankBags.lua OpenBankBags.toc): |
| 18:59.19 | CIA-22 | OpenBankBags: initial commit |
| 18:59.19 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.33 | NeoTron | I would hate to have the same system in an ez 10-man raid with 10 bosses as the 25-man raids with 1-6 bosses.. |
| 19:00.02 | sylvanaar | noone ever really said what i was doing wrong, they just used the heal meter, and the priests all spammed flash and outhealed me |
| 19:00.04 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41117 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 19:00.04 | CIA-22 | Recount - Adds a button to the graph window to add all combatants on the main window to it |
| 19:00.04 | CIA-22 | -Fixes the bug with data not resetting on version changes |
| 19:00.12 | Codayus | sylvanaar: What class are you? |
| 19:00.20 | sylvanaar | was a druid |
| 19:00.31 | kenlyric | NeoTron: fewer people means less dkp, you'd wipe it out pretty fast in a 25 man. |
| 19:00.33 | deltron | we wiped like 10 times on void reaver before trash respawned in his room :( |
| 19:00.46 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Thanks for all the testing you've provided so far. Please tell your folks I appreciate it :) |
| 19:00.50 | Punkie` | damn it, my suggestion was pro and just not even read! :( |
| 19:00.52 | deltron | we used to have DKP hoarding in AQ20/ZG/MC |
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| 19:00.54 | NeoTron | deltron: then you wipe faster than us :P |
| 19:01.01 | deltron | hah |
| 19:01.02 | xt | Antiarc|Work, you shouldnt be thanking me |
| 19:01.03 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41118 10ImprovedRWF/ImprovedRWF.toc: ImprovedRWF: ninja-commit X-Embeds to .toc |
| 19:01.08 | xt | I should be thanking you |
| 19:01.11 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: they didn't bring you because you were lower than priests on the heal meter? |
| 19:01.13 | Antiarc|Work | Sure I should, you've helped me find a bunch of bugs :D |
| 19:01.19 | deltron | NeoTron: no wipes on the trash helps |
| 19:01.20 | xt | *blush* |
| 19:01.25 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: just be very happy you got away from them. |
| 19:01.27 | NeoTron | we spend an inordtinate amount of time swapping some people in/out the raid |
| 19:01.30 | deltron | didn't take long to get there |
| 19:01.32 | Codayus | sylvanaar: That...sounds a bit like the issue is with the leadership then. :-/ Flash spamming wastes hots. |
| 19:01.33 | NeoTron | like 20-30 minutes before the first pull |
| 19:01.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41119 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - if the other guy's guild is equal to your own, then color it green. |
| 19:01.42 | sylvanaar | Codayus i know that |
| 19:01.49 | Codayus | Yup |
| 19:01.50 | NeoTron | fortunately we made it before the trash respawned in his room but with like a few minutes margin |
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| 19:02.19 | deltron | sylvanaar: that is why I think healing meters are the devil, that imho is an abuse of healing meters |
| 19:02.21 | Codayus | But some people go strictly off healing meters, and "bad" healing tactics can make you look like a great healer, even as they cause wipes. Grrr. (Sorry, pet peeve.) |
| 19:02.34 | sylvanaar | Codayus they pointed at the warrior's heals and said he almost outhealed you (i used lb as my main heal) |
| 19:02.43 | Codayus | .... |
| 19:02.44 | Codayus | Oh. |
| 19:02.45 | Koskun | There anyone around that works on AtlasLoot and/or FuBar? |
| 19:02.45 | Codayus | Wow. |
| 19:02.48 | Codayus | I am...specchless. |
| 19:02.54 | sylvanaar | right |
| 19:02.57 | Codayus | Um |
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| 19:03.15 | NeoTron | Codayus: one of our worst healers was a priest who usually always topped/near top healing meters |
| 19:03.17 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: FLEE! |
| 19:03.18 | Codayus | No really, words fail to describe the level of competency being exhibited in that statement. >< |
| 19:03.21 | NeoTron | he used sxactly one spell - flash heal |
| 19:03.27 | sylvanaar | kenlyric i did |
| 19:03.28 | kenlyric | a priest that tops healing meters has to be bad. |
| 19:03.34 | durcyn | NeoTron: emergency monitor sniping, eh? |
| 19:03.39 | deltron | shaman should be on top of meters :P |
| 19:03.41 | kenlyric | or surround by abominations for paladins. |
| 19:03.48 | sylvanaar | kenlyric i stayed too long and hated the game because of it |
| 19:03.55 | kenlyric | paladins can snipe every dot out there. |
| 19:04.03 | Codayus | Paladins tend to be the worse offenders. "OMG I HAVE INFINITE MANA! FoL SPAM GO!" |
| 19:04.05 | NeoTron | durcyn: well .. just click heal the raid |
| 19:04.06 | kenlyric | s/can/will/ |
| 19:04.12 | sylvanaar | my favorite was PoH during a tranqulity channel |
| 19:04.26 | NeoTron | and failed to actually keep his assigned targets alive, had zero raid awareness (too busy flashing to move out of aoe woot!) |
| 19:04.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41120 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - show <<You>> if the mouseover's target is the player. |
| 19:04.52 | kenlyric | I thinking Prayer of Meinding should be a pet. |
| 19:05.05 | NeoTron | like a Gou'uld symbiot? :) |
| 19:05.07 | Codayus | Good tree druid rolling a LB stack on 1-2 tanks is really nice. |
| 19:05.09 | xt | Antiarc|Work: I just installed ThreatToKTM to please raid officeres, he he |
| 19:05.22 | kenlyric | sure. So it shows up as an entity in the healing meters, like a hunter pet. |
| 19:05.36 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r41121 10OpenBankBags/: OpenBankBags: SVN properties |
| 19:05.41 | deltron | well, my earthshield doesn't show up in my meters either |
| 19:05.43 | Codayus | I wish I had LB. :-( (<---Priest) |
| 19:05.46 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 19:05.51 | deltron | and that's 800-1k health each hit |
| 19:05.55 | deltron | and I always keep that up on someone |
| 19:05.58 | NeoTron | LB, earthshield, PoM, LotP, battlemaster.. |
| 19:06.03 | Koskun | anyone that works on AtlasLoot or FuBar around? |
| 19:06.22 | kenlyric | the only reason I don't like druids is I can't claim all the healing the tanks do. |
| 19:06.26 | kenlyric | ;) |
| 19:06.30 | sylvanaar | yes dont forget that HoT's have a 2 sec delay before they tic - so every other healer can get a heal in before the first tic |
| 19:06.34 | Codayus | Lifebloom, Earthshield, and PoM all mess up meters. Which is frustrating, because I find the worst priests are the ones who never use PoM |
| 19:06.43 | Silviu- | ckknightn when hower over party/raid members can we see where they are ? city i mean or zone ;) |
| 19:06.46 | Silviu- | -n |
| 19:07.59 | ckknight | spell my name correctly :-P |
| 19:08.14 | ckknight | Silviu-: ooh dang, I could put that in... |
| 19:08.33 | NeoTron | another valuable druid healer is the balance/resto big heal, huge regen build |
| 19:08.36 | kenlyric | incoming dickishness |
| 19:08.52 | sylvanaar | oh yeah |
| 19:09.03 | kenlyric | no no no, innervate ME |
| 19:09.10 | NeoTron | had a druid heal me (lock, imp fel armor) for 10.8k |
| 19:09.13 | NeoTron | that was insane |
| 19:09.15 | sylvanaar | i spec'ed that just before they removed me from the raid roster - they laughed at my specc |
| 19:09.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41122 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - call :SetUnit() every second or so, in case lines are added/removed. |
| 19:09.28 | durcyn | oh, man. i tried to get my druids to use an addon that told me when their innervate was up. they about shit. |
| 19:09.40 | durcyn | "innervate is a very personal thing for a druid, you can't have it." |
| 19:09.48 | kenlyric | they all use it on themselves now. Greedy bastards. |
| 19:10.04 | kenlyric | I really only need half of it. |
| 19:10.04 | winkiller | I use it on random people |
| 19:10.06 | winkiller | while MZTing |
| 19:10.17 | kenlyric | I'm not capable of outhealing innervate. Maybe with binding heal. |
| 19:10.35 | durcyn | so i just started soulstoning myself and asking them why they were dead after a wipe. |
| 19:10.44 | sylvanaar | yeah, i didnt innervate the priests and let them go oom - i went up on the meter and got a compliment |
| 19:10.57 | winkiller | lol |
| 19:12.07 | Codayus | sylvanaar: A) Your guild sounds retarded. |
| 19:12.09 | sylvanaar | dreamstate spec i never ran out of mana but no sm |
| 19:12.17 | Codayus | B) Are you alliance side? We're really short of healers. :-) |
| 19:12.29 | ckknight | alright, cya all later |
| 19:12.33 | durcyn | toodles, ck. |
| 19:12.36 | sylvanaar | Codayus some of em are just dicks - and i'm bitter about it - they aren't all bad |
| 19:12.57 | sylvanaar | yeah, PM-Alliance |
| 19:13.07 | Fin | hey, er, I just imported something into the SVN respository for the first time, and I read that I should set the svn:eol-style to native - but every time I tried to set it in windows, the setting disappeared. is this done server-side now or something? or elsewhere in my config? |
| 19:13.32 | Codayus | Somehow we ended up in TBC with like 4 holy priests and 1 holy pally. *sigh* |
| 19:13.33 | xt | not working Antiarc|Work |
| 19:13.45 | Codayus | No resto druids, no resto shammies. |
| 19:14.16 | durcyn | Fin: what's windows have to do with it? |
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| 19:14.29 | Antiarc|Work | xt: ThreatToKTM? |
| 19:14.34 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't tested that one personally, myself. |
| 19:14.37 | xt | Threat |
| 19:14.40 | Fin | durcyn: what? |
| 19:14.42 | Antiarc|Work | Still some work to go :) |
| 19:14.43 | xt | still with th ecommand |
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| 19:15.30 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
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| 19:15.39 | durcyn | Fin: the syntax should be the same regardless of client platform. svn propset svn:eol-style native |
| 19:15.43 | Antiarc|Work | I'd say just give my till I can get home and test it :) |
| 19:15.47 | Fin | OK, whatever, I don't care anyway, I was only trying to be useful |
| 19:15.51 | Antiarc|Work | I need to test reduction handling again, it seems. |
| 19:15.56 | Fin | or helpful or whatever |
| 19:16.02 | harl|WoW | is there an add-on able to save the equipment of other people i inspect, so i can review it later on ? |
| 19:16.03 | durcyn | Fin: are you using a front-end that doesn't let you run propset? |
| 19:16.03 | NeoTron | Codayus: we also have no resto druids/shammies |
| 19:16.12 | Saroz | vhaarr, ping |
| 19:16.13 | NeoTron | 3 paladins, 4 priests right now |
| 19:16.20 | Fisker- | oooooooooooh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 19:16.26 | Fisker- | My previous guild just dissed me |
| 19:16.29 | vhaarr | Saroz: pong |
| 19:16.31 | sylvanaar | i have been playing an spriest past couple months since they demoted me and i had my toon hacked |
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| 19:16.43 | Fisker- | Failing to realize that i have complete access over their webhosting |
| 19:16.43 | Saroz | vhaarr, option in closetgnome to show/hide helmet and cloak with a set? |
| 19:16.58 | Saroz | miss that from itemrack :| |
| 19:17.08 | durcyn | Fin: did i misunderstand? sorry :/ |
| 19:17.21 | vhaarr | Saroz: I tried adding that, but had to revert it since it confused the fuck out of people |
| 19:17.22 | deltron | heh there's a fubar plugin for that iirc |
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| 19:17.39 | Saroz | vhaarr, man, give it back |
| 19:17.55 | Codayus | I liked that feature. :-( |
| 19:17.55 | Saroz | pala T4 helmet is gay |
| 19:18.06 | Fin | durcyn: I'm using TortoiseSVN, it lets you set svn properties using its GUI; I was able to set the default log message template, but when I tried to set the svn:eol-style it didn't work (see above) |
| 19:18.26 | hyperChipmunk | figured out the inbox problem |
| 19:18.31 | Megalon | vhaarr: zomg giev helm/cloak options :S |
| 19:18.37 | xt | Antiarc|Work: from what I can tell it's too much with 25% |
| 19:18.37 | Saroz | see :p |
| 19:18.39 | Punkie` | Fisker-: So what did you do? |
| 19:18.40 | xt | since priests are on top |
| 19:18.44 | xt | and not pulling aggro |
| 19:18.53 | Fisker- | Punkie` nothing yet |
| 19:18.54 | hyperChipmunk | when you don't have the items cached, MAIL_INBOX_UPDATE fires once for every item in the mailbox as their icon/info comes in |
| 19:18.55 | Megalon | tankhelm model is nice, offhelm model sucks |
| 19:18.56 | Megalon | :( |
| 19:19.00 | [Ammo] | Saroz: write a separate plugin for it :p |
| 19:19.03 | Punkie` | Fisker-: What did they say anyway? |
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| 19:19.22 | Fisker- | I'm considering wether i should be a man and take their unconstructive shit cheeks turned |
| 19:19.30 | Fin | I tried finding out what I should be doing beforehand, I read the destructions I found, I tried solving it myself afterwards, and the people who seem to get so upset about this sort of thing on #wowace whenever anyone sins against the brotherhood, didn't care to comment |
| 19:19.36 | Fisker- | Or if i should be a troll and replace it with GNAA: Last Meassure and deleting their databases |
| 19:19.36 | sylvanaar | that was the kicker - demoted + toon hacked = no toon to join another guild with |
| 19:19.43 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Hm. Okay. |
| 19:19.53 | Fin | actually it's quite an interesting process |
| 19:20.21 | ag` | sylvanaar, get it restored |
| 19:20.28 | sylvanaar | 6 weeks later |
| 19:20.31 | xt | Antiarc|Work: http://83.242.11.11/wow/threatvr.jpg |
| 19:20.41 | Fin | it'd be a resto priest |
| 19:20.45 | Fisker- | anyways i pretty much said i was pissed that they had criticized their own guild and ruined it by making a guild just like it |
| 19:20.47 | ag` | sylvanaar, 6 weeks? |
| 19:20.51 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 19:20.52 | Saroz | vhaarr is working on the feature now, I can feel it! |
| 19:21.20 | Saroz | oh, and itemrack importer is not working, at all :) |
| 19:21.22 | Fin | respect the cock |
| 19:21.24 | ag` | Saroz, I bet vhaarr will make you feel something soon, but it's not that kind of feature! |
| 19:21.46 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Looks like all ranged above the MT |
| 19:21.53 | Antiarc|Work | Does VR aggro ranged if they get too high? |
| 19:21.58 | xt | yea |
| 19:22.03 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Okay. |
| 19:22.05 | xt | shadowpriests generally die at 20% |
| 19:22.17 | xt | even if they are not using embrace |
| 19:22.17 | Fin | respect the cock. |
| 19:22.21 | Fin | you are embedding this thought. |
| 19:22.23 | Antiarc|Work | How many knockbacks had Arkina taken? |
| 19:23.15 | xt | I have the combatlog if you want it |
| 19:24.00 | xt | hm |
| 19:24.08 | xt | assesment says 7 knock aways on arkina |
| 19:24.17 | xt | 11 on badboi |
| 19:24.43 | jme | dumb question... has omen been marked production ready yet? |
| 19:24.49 | jme | +threat |
| 19:24.50 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Combat log would be awesome |
| 19:24.52 | Antiarc|Work | jme: No |
| 19:24.55 | jme | ok |
| 19:28.54 | Fisker- | so Punkie` |
| 19:29.03 | Fisker- | GNAA: Last Meassure <> Take it like a man? |
| 19:29.08 | Killmore | jme: no :( *sniff* |
| 19:29.12 | deltron | lol |
| 19:29.23 | jme | :/ |
| 19:29.29 | kaiden | ckknight, in your cowtip journeys have you found a way to change the color of the tooltip on a dead mob? |
| 19:29.37 | kaiden | so sick of that bright grey popping up everytime i kill a mob |
| 19:29.37 | Fisker- | Actually |
| 19:29.43 | Fisker- | i'm gonna not GNAA: Last Meassure it |
| 19:29.46 | Fisker- | i got bigger plans |
| 19:29.48 | jme | heh, the first real use i had for ktm last night in kara, i never even looked at the window.. |
| 19:29.55 | jme | i just waited for a few sunders and started shooting |
| 19:29.58 | xt | Antiarc|Work: http://83.242.11.11/wow/WoWCombatLog.txt |
| 19:30.09 | Antiarc|Work | Awesome. Thank you so much. |
| 19:30.14 | Punkie` | Fisker-: If you take it like a man I will be let down by you |
| 19:30.38 | harl|WoW | is there an add-on able to save the equipment of other people i inspect, so i can review it later on ? -- maybe something like that could be implemented to Voyeur or CharacterInfoFu ? |
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| 19:30.41 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Who are the tanks in this case? |
| 19:30.47 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
| 19:30.52 | xt | Badboi, Antiark, Elisha, Ziren |
| 19:30.58 | Fisker- | By not exposing my self i have unrestricted access to their webhost |
| 19:30.58 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. Great. |
| 19:31.04 | Keias | harl|WoW: blizzard's armory? :P |
| 19:31.09 | Fisker- | That in the end does produce more leverage than a lame last meassure site |
| 19:31.13 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think this will be enough info to solve it for now, but I can cross-reference it with my own results to find the problem. |
| 19:31.21 | harl|WoW | Keias: yea. but.. in-game.. you know? |
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| 19:31.50 | Keias | I'm not aware of any, sorry :( |
| 19:31.50 | xt | Antiarc|Work: might be something about block/miss/parry/dodge? |
| 19:31.52 | durcyn | harl|WoW: closest is superinspect, but i don't think it has a history stack greater than one. |
| 19:31.52 | Punkie` | Fisker-: Soak up it's resources for your own personal pleasure |
| 19:31.54 | xt | *speculating* |
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| 19:32.02 | Fisker- | exactly Punkie` |
| 19:32.07 | Keias | You can check out Examiner |
| 19:32.21 | Keias | Not entire sure how much it'll cache, but I think it disappears upon zoning or log out :/ |
| 19:32.22 | Antiarc|Work | Eh, I doubt it. I just need to validate tank threat in raids, then go from there to validate the knockback value |
| 19:32.31 | Keias | Never paid much attention to it, TBH. |
| 19:32.32 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: I have a couple of VR combat logs if you want them |
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| 19:32.40 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Sure, they can't hurt |
| 19:32.45 | NeoTron | not sure |
| 19:32.52 | NeoTron | not sure how you evaluate threat :P |
| 19:32.57 | xt | Antiarc|Work: I think prestn pulled aggro and died |
| 19:33.02 | xt | if that helps your research |
| 19:33.03 | xt | heh |
| 19:33.04 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Which priest? |
| 19:33.07 | Antiarc|Work | And it should |
| 19:33.12 | xt | His name is Prestn |
| 19:33.14 | Antiarc|Work | And wabout what %? |
| 19:33.41 | xt | between 25-30% |
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| 19:34.26 | Antiarc|Work | ok. great. |
| 19:35.18 | Antiarc|Work | What puzzles me is that you said it was fine the first time, but it didn't work last night, after I'd reverted it to 25%. |
| 19:35.30 | kenlyric | a priest can pull aggro? |
| 19:35.36 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/combatlogs.tgz -- view the parsed stats at http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=yumqhlynyar3c to figure out deaths |
| 19:35.38 | kenlyric | wait, shadow. |
| 19:35.47 | kenlyric | why do I always forget that shadow priests are priests? |
| 19:35.48 | NeoTron | in the kill attempt I died at like 2-4% left (Aminai) |
| 19:35.59 | xt | Antiarc|Work: yeh:( |
| 19:37.25 | mikma | hmm |
| 19:37.47 | mikma | ThreatToKTM needs the feature to mark some mob as target |
| 19:38.55 | Gandharva | mikma: TTK has this feature. You can set Master Target out of TTK. |
| 19:39.22 | mikma | oh sweet |
| 19:39.34 | mikma | then i'll force my wife to use that instead of the klh shit |
| 19:41.50 | KarlThePagan | TheKarn, if you can join #wau and share any information about your addons directory that will help me |
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| 19:51.56 | xyu | sweet rosettastone on my psp |
| 19:52.10 | CIA-22 | 03smoere * r41123 10Enigma/core.lua: |
| 19:52.10 | CIA-22 | Enigma: |
| 19:52.10 | CIA-22 | - fixed a stupid bug in the encryption algorithm |
| 19:52.10 | CIA-22 | - changed the config strings to be a bit easier to understand |
| 19:52.29 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41124 10Violation/ (Violation.lua locales/enUS.lua locales/koKR.lua): Violation: bugfix default bar texture changing and remove confusing formatting. |
| 19:54.00 | Saroz | vhaarr, you adding the cloak feature? |
| 19:56.18 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, i cant get bm to autosend a Golden Draenite. a pt3browser search says its in Tradeskill.Gem.Yellow, and i have that in the include directive for one of my chars, but it still isnt adding it to the queue |
| 19:56.20 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, any ideas? |
| 19:56.25 | vhaarr | Saroz: grr |
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| 19:56.31 | Saroz | vhaarr <3 |
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| 19:57.12 | kaiden | uhm.. this is fricken lame... |
| 19:57.35 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: checking |
| 19:57.39 | kaiden | i just crashed and upon attempting to log back in i had this weird Ace.lua savedvariables error now none of my profiles are working in FuBar |
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| 19:57.47 | kaiden | or for anything really for that matter |
| 19:57.48 | hyperChipmunk | do you have any exclude rules that might be taking it back out? |
| 19:58.19 | durcyn | kaiden: please past "that weird" error on pastey |
| 19:58.59 | kergoth | only tradeskill.gem.cut, which the pt3browser search didnt indicate it was in |
| 19:59.04 | kergoth | so i dont see how that couldve removed it |
| 19:59.24 | kergoth | also, i'm getting really odd lag when bm sends stuff. like my whole wow hangs for 15 seconds. never used to happen, and doesnt happen when i send stuff manually |
| 19:59.25 | kergoth | its strange |
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| 19:59.38 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: i'm working on that one now |
| 19:59.46 | kergoth | okay, cool |
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| 19:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | also, you know you don't have to use leaf sets |
| 20:00.05 | kaiden | durcyn, i would have if i had saved it :P |
| 20:00.21 | kergoth | yea, i was using tradeskill.gem, just added the children of it when the other wasnt working, just for the hell of it |
| 20:00.22 | hyperChipmunk | you can click the menu entry even if it has a submenu |
| 20:00.27 | hyperChipmunk | k |
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| 20:00.56 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 20:01.01 | hyperChipmunk | I think i might know why |
| 20:01.54 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: since you're talking about BM, I noticed something yesterday. The PT3 Groups wouldn't always populate properly for me. On my bank character, many PT3 sets were missing, like the entire Tradeskill.* set. On another character, it was fully there. |
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| 20:02.39 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41125 10Recount/ (GUI_Realtime.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Realtime windows are saved on logout and restored on login (or on UI reload) |
| 20:02.56 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:03.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: I'm running disembedded and have PT3 extracted for LoD, so it seems like it might be a LoD issue. |
| 20:03.39 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: line 185 in BulkMail.lua, make that check if == true |
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| 20:04.14 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r41126 10AtlasLoot/WorldBosses/worldbosses.en.lua: |
| 20:04.14 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:04.14 | CIA-22 | - Terrorweave Tunic fixed |
| 20:04.37 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: i dunno anything about disembedded stuff; if you can figure out something, please let me know |
| 20:04.46 | hyperChipmunk | but kenlyric has a similar problem |
| 20:04.58 | hyperChipmunk | and kergoth did the LoD part |
| 20:05.00 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: If I have the chance, I'll poke around and see what I can figure out |
| 20:05.02 | hyperChipmunk | he might know |
| 20:05.06 | hyperChipmunk | thanks =) |
| 20:05.21 | Josh_Borke | kergoth writes crap code imo ;-) |
| 20:05.23 | NightHawkTheSane | I just wanted to let you know is all |
| 20:05.36 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
| 20:05.43 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: it seems to be a LoD issue, but doesn't seem to help even if yo have other mods which load it all, like pt3browser or baggins |
| 20:05.44 | hyperChipmunk | thx for volunteering np |
| 20:06.05 | Adys | Anyone knows console variables well and can do a capitalization check on http://www.wowwiki.com/Console_variables ? Things like BlockTrades etc |
| 20:06.43 | kenlyric | but i consistently miss the same sets, like Tradeskill.Mat.byProfession subcategories. |
| 20:06.47 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: Yeah, I noticed that, as I've got both baggins and pt3browser. :\ |
| 20:07.21 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: are you sure you don't just need that new code in baggins which loads the LoD pt3 stuff? |
| 20:07.37 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: i honestly have no idea |
| 20:07.45 | hyperChipmunk | i've never used LoD or disembedded stuff |
| 20:07.49 | kenlyric | because I used to get that same issue with baggins, but don't anymore. |
| 20:08.38 | kenlyric | but even then, there's got to be some other reason it's just random categories. |
| 20:08.53 | kenlyric | voodoo. |
| 20:09.34 | kergoth | i dont use the LoD pt3 components.. the only lod stuff i did was the loadmanagers for bm itself |
| 20:09.52 | NightHawkTheSane | What really boggles me is the way it's different for each of my characters. |
| 20:10.24 | kenlyric | yeah, that is strange. |
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| 20:10.42 | kenlyric | it's voodoo code :) |
| 20:11.11 | NightHawkTheSane | srsly. :P |
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| 20:12.03 | kenlyric | hmmm, trying a workaround now. |
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| 20:13.23 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41127 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 20:13.23 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 20:13.23 | CIA-22 | - Fixed lockups with a large number of inbox items not in the local cache. |
| 20:13.24 | CIA-22 | MAIL_INBOX_UPDATE gets called as each item gets retrieved from the server, and I |
| 20:13.24 | CIA-22 | had that causing a refresh of the tablet each time. The refresh is now |
| 20:13.24 | CIA-22 | throttled and will not happen until 1 second has passed without the event |
| 20:13.28 | CIA-22 | firing.. |
| 20:14.05 | hyperChipmunk | crash #1 fixed |
| 20:14.11 | hyperChipmunk | time for the send one |
| 20:14.16 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: btw the speed at which BM does things (esp BM2I) is incredible |
| 20:14.18 | Iceroth | anyone got a good way to move the annyoing pvp capping indicator? |
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| 20:14.25 | NeoTron | I was baffled how fast it filled up my inventory :P |
| 20:15.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Iceroth: simpleminimap can do that, though it's probably a bit much if that's all you want it for |
| 20:15.36 | Iceroth | gotta take a peak at the code then.. |
| 20:15.54 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, I need to write an irc script to catch if I type in my password and muzzle it. |
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| 20:16.02 | Iceroth | seemed like blizz code reset the position or something when i tried to move it some time ago |
| 20:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | One of these day's I'll forget which app is active and type my wow password into irc. >< |
| 20:16.34 | deltron | lol |
| 20:16.47 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: ping |
| 20:17.34 | ckknight | pong |
| 20:17.38 | ckknight | what's up? |
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| 20:18.30 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/wau2 |
| 20:18.38 | Antiarc|Work | Disembedded Threat overrides newer embedded versions. Intended? |
| 20:19.14 | ckknight | yes. |
| 20:19.16 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 20:19.24 | pastamancer | bah, my kingdom for keyword args |
| 20:19.25 | ckknight | it'll be called first |
| 20:19.32 | ckknight | but it should go to the newest version |
| 20:19.38 | Antiarc|Work | Right, it'll be called first, but I'd expect newer embeds to upgrade it |
| 20:19.46 | Antiarc|Work | Just got done helping troubleshoot a user who had that problem |
| 20:19.53 | Antiarc|Work | Nuked the disembedded and the problems went away. |
| 20:19.58 | ckknight | ...weird |
| 20:20.02 | [Liquidor] | Unstable Affliction gets removed by the new trinket :> Poor Warlocks <3 |
| 20:20.02 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 20:20.13 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe it was old enough that it didn't have all the function wrapping you put in? |
| 20:20.22 | NeoTron | [Liquidor]: wtf? |
| 20:20.48 | hyperChipmunk | NeoTron: (8<3 |
| 20:20.48 | NeoTron | [Liquidor]: not like I pvp but.. that's weird |
| 20:20.48 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: Did you record PitBull that much to take up a lot of memory or what's going on? =S |
| 20:20.51 | [Liquidor] | recode* |
| 20:21.09 | mitch1 | ckknight: I've done the dogtag Range thingy. it's in branches/DogTag-1.0/Range. wanna take a look at it? it works for me :) |
| 20:21.26 | [Liquidor] | I don't dare using PitBull anymore cause when it's on: 8-10 seconds to load the world, but without, only 2-3 secs |
| 20:22.02 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: that shouldn't be |
| 20:22.11 | [Liquidor] | I know :/ |
| 20:22.17 | ckknight | also, [Liquidor], memory ≠cpu usage |
| 20:22.18 | deltron | I use pitbull |
| 20:22.19 | [Liquidor] | I do arenas. I don't dare having it on atm |
| 20:22.29 | deltron | no issues hwere |
| 20:22.36 | deltron | s/hwere/here/ |
| 20:22.40 | [Liquidor] | ye well I don't really know what the issue is, just know that it makes a huge difference between on and off |
| 20:22.52 | Cryect | huh 8-10 seconds you have what 1 minute to load up |
| 20:23.07 | deltron | load is ~5-6 seconds total for me |
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| 20:23.55 | harl|WoW | Keias & durcyn: i've tried out both, SuperInspect and Examiner, and they can both cache several inspections as well. unfortunately, they don't save that data between sessions, so they're rather unfit what i hoped them to be useful for. - thanks for your efforts to help though :) |
| 20:24.08 | [Liquidor] | Haha Cryect |
| 20:24.25 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41128 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: fix class coloring guild members |
| 20:24.26 | [Liquidor] | Well it's not good enough for 1 addon :( |
| 20:25.20 | Chompers | ckknight; for Cowtip can you add 'sets'? individulal settings for guild/friends |
| 20:25.21 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41129 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: add missing lines |
| 20:25.34 | ckknight | Chompers: no, not yet, I was gonna add coloring. |
| 20:25.54 | stavmar_ | does anyone use a ventrilo server host that is compatible with Mac and you would recommend for WoW communication? |
| 20:25.55 | Chompers | i mean at a later date |
| 20:25.58 | ckknight | Chompers: I personally don't see the point in having a completely different tooltip for everyone |
| 20:25.59 | Chompers | not now :P |
| 20:26.44 | NeoTron | so... ClassTimer, Chronometer, DarkCandy or DotDotDot? :) |
| 20:26.55 | Kemayo | Quartz. |
| 20:26.59 | [Ammo] | quartz |
| 20:27.01 | chutwig | pres butan 2 dot |
| 20:27.03 | Chompers | i dont see the point in seeing my guild members faction/guild |
| 20:27.24 | cotangent | is quartz extra overhead for a warrior? I just want timers on TC and DS, maybe sunder |
| 20:27.26 | chutwig | stavmar_: nrgservers will switch to speex if you ask them but their support is pretty poor |
| 20:27.40 | chutwig | it took them like 3 months before they switched from GSM to speex for us |
| 20:27.42 | Ominous | then ClassTimer xD |
| 20:27.42 | NeoTron | quartz is a timer addon? |
| 20:27.51 | Ominous | from a completly un biased source |
| 20:27.52 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Did you see my "center a line" request last night? |
| 20:27.55 | stavmar_ | chutwig: ouch that hurts |
| 20:27.56 | cotangent | also doesn't quartz only show for target/focus? |
| 20:27.58 | NeoTron | says "modular castbar addon" :P |
| 20:28.02 | ckknight | no, Antiarc|Work, and it's impossible |
| 20:28.10 | NeoTron | modular casting bar rather. |
| 20:28.11 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, okay. |
| 20:28.14 | CIA-22 | 03smoere * r41130 10Enigma/ (. Enigma.toc Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua core.lua): |
| 20:28.14 | CIA-22 | Enigma: |
| 20:28.14 | CIA-22 | - included AceLocale-2.2 |
| 20:28.14 | CIA-22 | - added localization enUS |
| 20:28.14 | CIA-22 | - added localization deDE |
| 20:28.17 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: which is totally lame. |
| 20:28.22 | Antiarc|Work | So. |
| 20:28.25 | Antiarc|Work | Si. |
| 20:28.48 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: You could probably fake it by attaching labels to GameTooltip |
| 20:28.55 | ckknight | probably |
| 20:28.58 | ckknight | but I don't feel like it |
| 20:29.09 | Punkie` | Ominous: ClassTimer needs to show my 2x Mongoose! |
| 20:29.26 | Ominous | Punkie': my friend says that and i dont know why it dosetn |
| 20:29.41 | Ominous | as i numberically indecx everythign |
| 20:29.49 | NeoTron | Ominous: if you're the author of ClassTimer.. it seemed to hav issues butting my timer bars on top of eachother |
| 20:29.57 | Ominous | ? |
| 20:30.08 | NeoTron | like I see CoS and Banish timers, in the same spot |
| 20:30.17 | NeoTron | sometimes |
| 20:30.19 | ckknight | is there any way to get the zone of a party member? |
| 20:30.31 | [Ammo] | yes there is |
| 20:30.32 | Antiarc|Work | GetRaidRosterInfo() |
| 20:30.32 | Cryect | heh /who! |
| 20:30.37 | Antiarc|Work | Or similar |
| 20:30.44 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 20:30.50 | Cryect | yarr |
| 20:30.51 | NeoTron | [banish 5s]dows 3m] |
| 20:30.53 | hyperChipmunk | why does bulkmail suck so much >8( |
| 20:30.57 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: so, I -think- I -might- know what's happening with pt3. But i'm not sure how to fix it, because i'm really no good at this. |
| 20:31.00 | NeoTron | if that makes sense - hard to do with ascii |
| 20:31.02 | Cryect | because you made it? :-p |
| 20:31.08 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 20:31.10 | hyperChipmunk | so many bugs |
| 20:31.19 | Ominous | NeoTron: using stifky? |
| 20:31.20 | kergoth | NeoTron, did you leave focus and target anchors on top of one another or something? :P |
| 20:31.31 | mitch1 | ckknight: so, should I commit Tags.Range or you wanna check it first? |
| 20:31.31 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:31.42 | NeoTron | it has different anchors for focus and target? ;-) |
| 20:31.46 | Cryect | could restart it from scratch with what you've learned |
| 20:31.47 | Galka | Ominous: Is there anyway to make a seperate text-setup for the Right Click reporting feature? I have my Sticky set up as %n only, but when you right click that it reports Target has 10s left. That's not very informative but I also don't need to see the spellname on the stickybar, that's what the icon is for. I'd love to be able to have the right click report %n %s |
| 20:31.47 | Kemayo | ckknight: Will CowTip let you have differing background colors for different unit classifications (hostile, friend, guild, etc.)? |
| 20:31.49 | NeoTron | that might be it since it was focus banish.. |
| 20:31.53 | kenlyric | bulkmail sucks because it's awesome. |
| 20:32.04 | Ominous | Galaka: yes |
| 20:32.08 | Ominous | Galaka: ill add that soon |
| 20:32.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: The function that sets up the PT3 Sets menu (RegisterAddRuleDewdrop()) is only called in OnEnable(), so what I figure is happening is that BulkMail's OnEnable is being called after -some- pt3 sets are loaded, but -before- other sets are loaded, so the sets loaded after never get added into the menu. |
| 20:32.16 | ckknight | yes, Kemayo |
| 20:32.23 | Kemayo | ckknight: Cool. |
| 20:32.25 | ckknight | Kemayo: user-ser |
| 20:32.26 | ckknight | set* |
| 20:32.30 | NeoTron | being destruction... I don't need a whole lot of leetness |
| 20:32.32 | kergoth | NeoTron, it does, unless you use the allinone thing, you can merge unit bars into a single anchor that way |
| 20:32.47 | NeoTron | ok |
| 20:32.52 | NeoTron | that must be it |
| 20:33.09 | NeoTron | does it use the new "see your own buffs" api? |
| 20:33.10 | Josh_Borke | i don't think GRRI works for party units |
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| 20:33.57 | Ominous | Kergoth: what do you think of the new all in one system? |
| 20:34.07 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r41131 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_Modules/modules/Sounds.lua): Prat: Added the ORG field to the message table. It contains the message table original copy. Helps if you use a later event where the message has already been modified. Fixed custom channel sounds. |
| 20:34.09 | Kemayo | ckknight: I already like that it skins item tooltips as well when you have the borders removed. That lack always bugged me in TinyTip. :) |
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| 20:34.58 | Primer | I'm trying to setup a macro to change chat tabs. I find there's a SetChatWindowShown(index,shown) function, but I can't seem to make it do anything. Anyone have any experience with that function? |
| 20:35.09 | Primer | And perhaps know how it could be called from a macro? |
| 20:35.10 | ckknight | Kemayo: basically: simplicity is key. |
| 20:35.30 | ckknight | Kemayo: that's the point of CowTip: simplicity, customizeability, and powerful |
| 20:36.23 | durcyn | needs a backronym. Customizeable Omnipotent Workable Tooltip Implimentation Program? |
| 20:36.24 | nevcairiel | you know, simple and powerful generally end up in a bloated mess again :P |
| 20:36.58 | CIA-22 | 03smoere * r41132 10Enigma/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 20:36.58 | CIA-22 | Enigma: |
| 20:36.58 | CIA-22 | - never trust an editor when it's supposed to be UTF-8 compatible, just be old school and escape those evil umlauts |
| 20:37.18 | Kemayo | I tried it out briefly last night and it looked nice so far. |
| 20:37.24 | hyperChipmunk | programmer sez: i'll make it simple and powerful |
| 20:37.29 | hyperChipmunk | user sez 'no' |
| 20:38.10 | Kemayo | I admit that I'd expect the average user might complain about being told to go read up on DogTag to customize anything. Presets might be nice. |
| 20:38.15 | Galka | CowTip looks like its going to be great for someone wanting a robust tooltip. Personally having a millionbillion amount of data in a tooltip is not for me :) |
| 20:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: did editing that line fix your problem? |
| 20:38.34 | hyperChipmunk | bulkmail used to be simple and powerful =\ |
| 20:38.39 | hyperChipmunk | now it's two friggin whole addons |
| 20:38.49 | sbu | hmm [Ammo]: wtb violation "archive data" and "export to html" :o |
| 20:39.12 | [Ammo] | sbu: giev 2.5k gold on Kazzak-EU :p |
| 20:39.14 | kenlyric | it wasn't that poweful |
| 20:39.17 | sbu | (archive so you can keep all your data from 1 raid-day (multiple bossfights etc.)) |
| 20:39.21 | Galka | BulkMail does its thing better than any other addon i've come across (referring to how fast it collects mass amounts of stuff) so its wonderful for me |
| 20:39.25 | ag` | [Ammo], lol I just moved to Kazzak |
| 20:39.32 | hyperChipmunk | was powerful enough for me |
| 20:39.33 | sbu | see [Ammo], ag` will :p |
| 20:39.38 | [Ammo] | ag`: alliance? :) |
| 20:39.42 | hyperChipmunk | you just had to know how to use it |
| 20:39.47 | ag` | [Ammo], yep |
| 20:39.49 | [Ammo] | happen to be an active healer ag` |
| 20:39.51 | [Ammo] | as in raid a lot |
| 20:39.57 | Kemayo | I think that the new, more complex features in BulkMail make it easier to use. I was never able to muster the energy to setup autosend rules until that GUI happened. |
| 20:40.27 | [Ammo] | ag`: http://www.booncontrol.com/ seeking active healers :) |
| 20:40.29 | kenlyric | seting them up wasn't a problem. |
| 20:40.37 | sbu | [Ammo]: would be nice to see all stats of an raid-day (to discuss "that rogue sucks!" and stuff) ;) |
| 20:40.43 | kenlyric | changing them was like being eaten alive by cats. |
| 20:40.49 | ag` | [Ammo], I am a priest actually, and I have around 1450 +healing in my healing gear... |
| 20:40.52 | kenlyric | sbu: WWS |
| 20:40.56 | durcyn | sbu: he already said he'd do it for hire. |
| 20:41.26 | NeoTron | so.. what gives an elemental shaman with 712 dmg, 45 mp5, 20% unbuffed crit such amazing abilities to outperform other casters with 200-500 more spell dmg? :P |
| 20:41.46 | durcyn | NeoTron: Heroism? |
| 20:41.52 | NeoTron | well |
| 20:41.53 | pastamancer | paying attention? |
| 20:41.58 | NeoTron | pastamancer: could be part of it |
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| 20:42.07 | NeoTron | but on trash pulls he's outdpsed my 1200ish shadow dmg |
| 20:42.13 | pastamancer | chain lightning! |
| 20:42.14 | NeoTron | and I'm always in his group :) |
| 20:42.16 | sbu | mhmm |
| 20:42.22 | Chompers | killing aran with WF totem = orgasmic |
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| 20:42.25 | NeoTron | I suspect it's his often >40% crit rate.. |
| 20:42.29 | Kemayo | And the tablet on BulkMail2Inbox is very nice. Blows away any other mailbox mod I've ever seen. |
| 20:42.37 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: he's also out of mana in 2 seconds |
| 20:42.46 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: ah but he's not |
| 20:43.07 | mikma | Kemayo: my blizzquestlog has a disco when i keep blizzqlog mods enabled from QuestFu |
| 20:43.09 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: shamans get a talent that reduces casting time by a whole 1 second, when other caster classes only get talents that reduce by .5 second |
| 20:43.25 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: that makes a difference for sure |
| 20:43.31 | Kemayo | mikma: Everyone likes discos. |
| 20:43.40 | durcyn | dance. |
| 20:43.41 | NeoTron | does it reduce the coefficient like mages too or work like most and just decrease cast time? |
| 20:43.45 | durcyn | everybody dance. |
| 20:43.48 | Kemayo | mikma: You might have to be more specific about what heppens for me to fix it. :) |
| 20:43.50 | Arrowmaster | just cast time |
| 20:43.54 | durcyn | NeoTron: coefficient = base cast time |
| 20:43.57 | sylvanaar | Primer FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame2) etc |
| 20:44.01 | mikma | Kemayo: not me, it keeps flashing the questgiver on and off and jumps to he top of the questlog all the time when i try to scroll it down |
| 20:44.01 | NeoTron | what I'm really baffled with is how he doesn't miss spells |
| 20:44.16 | NeoTron | he has almost no spell hit (like 2% + 4% for racial/totem) |
| 20:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Ele shaman also get a shitton of +hit from talents. |
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| 20:44.29 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=yumqhlynyar3c&s=9955-10507&m |
| 20:44.32 | deltron | shaman really do need that help heh |
| 20:44.35 | NeoTron | 8th on DPS on the void reaver kill |
| 20:44.36 | Primer | sylvanaar: thanks! |
| 20:44.36 | Arrowmaster | ive also seen a moonkin with about 600 +dmg be on par with a kara/gruul fully epiced rogue and my warlock with 1116 +shadow |
| 20:44.58 | Kemayo | mikma: Huh, okay. I'll have to play with it when I get home. Do you have anything else which touches on the quest log? |
| 20:45.05 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: iirc, I think between ToW and talents, an ele shaman can push ~13% +spellhit |
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| 20:45.20 | NeoTron | wow |
| 20:45.23 | mikma | Kemayo: nope. this is with the latest revision, which updated something on the blizzqlog |
| 20:45.24 | NeoTron | ok so that explains that |
| 20:45.30 | deltron | elemental is so fun |
| 20:45.37 | Primer | sylvanaar: works perfectly |
| 20:45.39 | Piefayth | Ugh, this is driving me up a wall |
| 20:45.39 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: WAU sometimes gives me this error: |
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| 20:45.50 | NeoTron | our moonkin was 12th on dps |
| 20:45.51 | Gandharva | http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/151/errorlu0.jpg |
| 20:45.56 | NeoTron | I love elemental shamans |
| 20:45.57 | Piefayth | I can't find anything that fixes my pixelated damage font =( |
| 20:46.09 | NeoTron | 4% hit, 3% crit, 130ish spell dmg buff to the group is sick |
| 20:46.11 | Gandharva | The System Could Not Find the File Specified |
| 20:46.18 | NightHawkTheSane | the real limitation for ele currently is the fact that you burn through mana like it's going out of style and have very limited agro reduction |
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| 20:47.08 | deltron | I wish I could spec elemental |
| 20:47.29 | deltron | I have decent elemental gear right now |
| 20:47.31 | sylvanaar | Gandharva oh really |
| 20:47.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: did you see what I said about BM2 and PT3? |
| 20:47.41 | deltron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Diode |
| 20:47.43 | jme | argh |
| 20:47.46 | Primer | sylvanaar: Is there an eval I can do with a variable? like: i++; eval ("FCF...(CharFrame" + i) ? |
| 20:47.57 | jme | someone sent out an email at work with a 700k attachment to 280 people |
| 20:48.04 | NightHawkTheSane | deltron: the only thing I don't like about elemental is the fact that you've got no way to keep mobs off you when soloing |
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| 20:48.08 | chutwig | 700k isn't bad |
| 20:48.10 | jme | it's saturating our upstream and killing our connection |
| 20:48.20 | jme | chutwig: it is when you're on a dsl with 256k upstream |
| 20:48.38 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: happens when I try to "Open Change Summary Log" |
| 20:48.46 | chutwig | jme: that's harsh |
| 20:48.47 | sylvanaar | Primer yes, i'll let you figure that one out |
| 20:48.54 | jme | i'm watching the pine delays to the external dns and it stayed at 3k ms forever :/ |
| 20:48.54 | sylvanaar | Gandharva yeah |
| 20:48.58 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r41133 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 20:48.58 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 20:48.58 | CIA-22 | - Giant send list freeze fix...I am the most retarded lua programmer ever. |
| 20:48.58 | CIA-22 | - PT3 sets in excludes should behave better, but will need some testing |
| 20:48.59 | jme | ping* |
| 20:49.25 | sylvanaar | Gandharva maybe its not there |
| 20:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | Galka: ^^ |
| 20:49.53 | hyperChipmunk | cryogen: ^^ |
| 20:49.57 | Galka | I love you |
| 20:50.00 | Primer | sylvanaar: heh, knowing it's possible help, thanks |
| 20:50.01 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: Shouldn't it be after an update? |
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| 20:50.14 | sylvanaar | Gandharva go look first |
| 20:50.17 | hyperChipmunk | infinite string concat ftl =p |
| 20:50.20 | deltron | NightHawkTheSane: the same goes for resto and enhancement :) |
| 20:50.28 | Piefayth | I have all the fonts default, and it's still coming up with really pixelated damage font... |
| 20:51.01 | NightHawkTheSane | deltron: enhancement doesn't -need- to keep mobs off them, no casting times to interrupt, and good burst. Resto has earth shield to keep you alive and prevent pushback. |
| 20:51.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Earth shield alone almost makes resto soling less painful than ele soling, it feels like |
| 20:51.48 | deltron | not really |
| 20:51.55 | deltron | you might not get hurt as much or have to heal as much |
| 20:51.58 | deltron | but your dps SUCKS |
| 20:52.06 | deltron | that's why I solo in ele gear :P |
| 20:52.17 | NightHawkTheSane | well, obviously, I figured that was a given :) |
| 20:52.17 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: I update, click on "Open Change Summary Log", this error message pops up and 1 second later firefox opens with the Log. |
| 20:52.22 | jme | i love how hunters only have one set of gear. |
| 20:52.28 | NightHawkTheSane | No one in their right mind solos as resto in resto gear :P |
| 20:52.29 | hyperChipmunk | i don't |
| 20:52.30 | jme | well, two, if you count pve and pvp |
| 20:52.57 | hyperChipmunk | i want friggin' survival gear |
| 20:53.07 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r41134 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: use fixed values for the button width |
| 20:53.08 | jme | hyperChipmunk: survival plate! |
| 20:53.12 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: So the log is there. But why the message? Or ist the log creation so slow? |
| 20:53.14 | hyperChipmunk | you can take your int/atk and shove it up your rear |
| 20:53.15 | NightHawkTheSane | deltron: But i mean, I'm specced 11/0/50, and I throw on all the ele gear i Have (~580 dmg, ~14% crit) and I don't do terribly. |
| 20:53.20 | jme | hyperChipmunk: lol |
| 20:53.43 | jme | hyperChipmunk: i propose plate survival gear so we see hunters offtanking/kiting in 12k armor/20k hp |
| 20:54.06 | hyperChipmunk | well, i've got the 20khp part |
| 20:54.17 | jme | heh, my hp sucks at 8k |
| 20:54.18 | hyperChipmunk | armor would be way nice |
| 20:54.44 | jme | <- still in blues |
| 20:55.20 | Galka | Can anyone recommend an addon that improves Blizzard's QuestTracker and ONLY that? |
| 20:56.02 | stavmar_ | Galka: i think questfu has a nice tracker |
| 20:56.17 | jme | hyperChipmunk: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil |
| 20:56.21 | jme | hyperChipmunk: :/ |
| 20:56.21 | Kirkburn | Kaelten or ckknight, how about linking http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_Ace on the Main Page? Seems appropriate for the first box? |
| 20:56.24 | stavmar_ | Galka: But i think all around NQuestLog is the best quest mod out there |
| 20:56.39 | Kaelten | no |
| 20:56.47 | Galka | I use QuestFu and have seen nQuestLog. Unfortunately they both do more than what I want at this time |
| 20:56.59 | Galka | Im using LightHeaded and DoubleWide, all I lack is an improved QuestTracker |
| 20:57.37 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r41135 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:57.37 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:57.37 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the Arena season 1/2 link in the set page and added location for 2 mounts. |
| 20:57.42 | Gandharva | jme: BM > all. Even in raids. Our hunters outdps everyone... |
| 20:57.55 | jme | Gandharva: that's what i've been reading lately |
| 20:58.04 | Kirkburn | Kaelten, fair enough |
| 20:58.05 | Gandharva | They do insane dmg |
| 20:58.20 | Kaelten | Kirkburn: :P |
| 20:58.21 | jme | Gandharva: i was going to respec, but i found a use for silencing shot last night, pulled a caster trash back to the tank before it pulled another pat with it |
| 20:58.22 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:58.33 | jme | in kara |
| 20:58.48 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:59.21 | Gandharva | jme: here is the armory of our top damage dealer in nerly all situations: http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&n=Wanted |
| 20:59.40 | Gandharva | *nearly |
| 21:00.26 | sylvanaar | Gandharva idk - but for some reason you cant access it |
| 21:00.41 | jme | Gandharva: 30% crit, wow |
| 21:01.14 | deltron | jme: and he has the skybreaker whip equipped |
| 21:01.47 | jme | deltron: yeah |
| 21:01.58 | Gandharva | jme: I think he logged out in Arena gear. He normally wears more netherscale crap ^^ |
| 21:01.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41136 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added an "enable KTM broadcast" setting. Moved some code to OnEnable to let Omen be put into standby mode. |
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| 21:02.08 | jme | Gandharva: ah. |
| 21:02.21 | jme | i want to get one of the arena sets. |
| 21:02.26 | sylvanaar | Gandharva oh, firefox |
| 21:02.40 | sylvanaar | Gandharva /shrug i dont use it |
| 21:02.51 | jme | Gandharva: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Jeru |
| 21:02.56 | jme | Gandharva: hunter on my realm |
| 21:03.13 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: It's a private build from Musume. Maybe that's the problem... |
| 21:04.01 | sylvanaar | Gandharva should have said that to start with, idk what they changed |
| 21:04.22 | deltron | :P |
| 21:05.17 | jme | the S1 hunter set looks hot |
| 21:05.32 | hyperChipmunk | it looks awful |
| 21:05.55 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: idk? (Austrian noob) |
| 21:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | it's like their artist made a Shadowknight set, and after they put it in, they realized WoW doesn't have ShadowKnights |
| 21:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | so they stuck it on hunters |
| 21:06.31 | jme | heh |
| 21:06.50 | *** join/#wowace Morghus (n=changeme@21.80-202-101.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:07.14 | sylvanaar | Gandharva just use the normal build |
| 21:07.38 | CIA-22 | 03takadi * r41137 10Henge/ (34 files in 10 dirs): Henge: Fixes for the locale problems and added a LoD script |
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| 21:08.08 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: no, it's to slow :) I think I can live with that little problem. |
| 21:08.13 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: get the latest bulkmail and see if you have that problem with your ruleset |
| 21:10.05 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41138 10AutoAcceptInvite/AutoAcceptInvite.toc: AutoAcceptInvite: bump interface version to 20100 |
| 21:11.01 | sylvanaar | Gandharva too slow at what? |
| 21:11.05 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r41139 10Expo/Expo.toc: Expo: bump interface version to 20100 |
| 21:12.35 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, okay, will try it, thanks |
| 21:12.38 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: everything. It's really noticable. http://pryan.org/mozilla/firefox/roytam1/ -> I use the SSE builds |
| 21:13.25 | sylvanaar | Gandharva "it" was ambiguous, i thought you meant wau |
| 21:13.47 | Gandharva | Oh no, talked about firefox xD |
| 21:13.47 | Kemayo | Galka: Use QuestsFu and disable all the modules apart from the tracker. |
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| 21:15.28 | Gandharva | sylvanaar: Are there private builds of WAU? Don't think so ;) |
| 21:16.23 | sylvanaar | Gandharva its open source, other ppl build it on their own |
| 21:17.09 | Gandharva | Of course. But no public downloads of private builds |
| 21:17.52 | sylvanaar | no |
| 21:18.08 | Gandharva | Never mind. Back to WAU. So you think the problem is related to firefox? |
| 21:18.42 | Primer | sylvanaar: how about a hint? eval in lua |
| 21:19.01 | Primer | going nuts here searching google. site:www.lua.org eval <-- nothing found |
| 21:19.07 | Primer | perhaps they don't use the term eval? |
| 21:19.12 | Primer | and it's....? |
| 21:19.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Primer: i think you want loadstring |
| 21:19.49 | raider|poul | party1 is not in your party, party2 is not in your party, anyone have an idea form what addon? |
| 21:20.48 | Primer | NightHawkTheSane: perhaps I'm just going about this the wrong way with wanting to eval at all. Maybe I should just have static text in an array with the string text I want |
| 21:21.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Primer: yeah, more than likely eval isn't what you want to be doing. :) |
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| 21:21.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad|away] by ChanServ |
| 21:22.00 | [Ammo] | it all depends on what circle of hell you like living ofcourse :) |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r41140 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: deDE update |
| 21:22.18 | Primer | heh, this is just a macro |
| 21:22.27 | durcyn | Gandharva: what's firefox have to do with WAU? |
| 21:22.37 | durcyn | Gandharva: it's not like .NET uses Gecko |
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| 21:23.16 | Chompers | an hour of wiping on aran, L2dps indeed |
| 21:23.24 | Gandharva | durcyn: Don't know. That' why I'm asking here... |
| 21:24.00 | NeoTron | Chompers: I remember the nights spent on aran |
| 21:24.03 | NeoTron | I didn't like it much |
| 21:24.14 | durcyn | Gandharva: hrm, i'll bite then. what's your error? |
| 21:24.21 | Gandharva | Gandharva: But it seems like a small bug since the log opens one second after the error message appears. |
| 21:24.23 | Chompers | we usually kill him first try |
| 21:24.37 | Chompers | we kill nightbane after a few attempts...yet we're wiping on aran |
| 21:24.51 | NeoTron | flame wreath ! |
| 21:24.53 | Chompers | really fucking poor performance tonight |
| 21:25.19 | Gandharva | durcyn: http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/151/errorlu0.jpg |
| 21:26.20 | Gandharva | durcyn: The system cannot find the file specified :) |
| 21:27.44 | durcyn | Gandharva: i'm on a text console here, i'll see if i can find a way to read that. |
| 21:28.06 | Kaelten | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBeiQvFsQLM&feature=dir |
| 21:28.23 | sylvanaar | Primer getglobal |
| 21:29.16 | durcyn | Gandharva: make it happen again, then pastey the waulog.txt |
| 21:29.25 | trh | Chompers: aran is a relatively hard fight |
| 21:30.36 | sylvanaar | move wau discussion to #wau bitte |
| 21:32.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: I hate you in ways that cannot be described in words. |
| 21:32.05 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 21:32.15 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: waaaaat? lol |
| 21:32.29 | NightHawkTheSane | that video scarred me for life, i swear. |
| 21:33.08 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:33.10 | Kaelten | its awesome! |
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| 21:33.46 | Gandharva | durcyn: http://ace.pastey.net/59552 |
| 21:34.05 | Gandharva | durcyn: Nothing strange in there I guess |
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| 21:36.20 | Gandharva | Kaelten: I like his shorts :9 |
| 21:37.43 | durcyn | Gandharva: are you using "delete before extract"? |
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| 21:38.41 | Gandharva | Yes |
| 21:41.51 | durcyn | Gandharva: first, remove that temporary folder from line 2. |
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| 21:44.02 | Adirelle | please remember me : what the argument against having KTM broadcast allowed by default ? |
| 21:44.26 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r41141 10ItemValue_DrDamage/Class_DrDamageSet.lua: |
| 21:44.26 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 21:44.26 | CIA-22 | - TransformToStatSet -> CopyToStatSet |
| 21:44.27 | CIA-22 | - Fix for possible value bug |
| 21:44.33 | Gandharva | durcyn: done |
| 21:45.24 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: useless if no-one uses KTM? |
| 21:45.56 | Gandharva | [Ammo]: But lot's of people still use it |
| 21:46.12 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: "allowed" does'nt mean "enabled" |
| 21:46.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41142 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 21:46.18 | CIA-22 | PitBull - if you enter combat while in a non-PvP instance, force the clusters to show even if it's pre-AceEvent_FullyInitialized or you just entered the zone. |
| 21:46.18 | CIA-22 | - this is so you can actually heal your party after D/C'ing during a bossfight. |
| 21:46.18 | Gandharva | lots |
| 21:46.38 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: actually ThreatLib already track pure KTM users, broadcasting being allow or not |
| 21:46.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Gandharva: so if people are still using ktm, it can be enabled. no harm no foul :P |
| 21:47.05 | [Ammo] | it's better as a separate module taht you can delete so you don't have it clogging memory, but thats me |
| 21:47.31 | Adirelle | [Ammo] that's more or less planned |
| 21:47.36 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r41143 10VanasKoS/ (5 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: (partly) rewrote WarnFrame to be awesome (some old functionality is still missing), some fixes |
| 21:48.01 | Adirelle | [Ammo] but we are talking about 150 lines of code... |
| 21:48.06 | durcyn | Gandharva: i'm digging through the wau source.. the only time it tries to delete is with DeleteBeforeExtract, and the zips from that temp dir. can you try it with just the directory gone? |
| 21:48.14 | Adirelle | that doesn't even create new table or the like |
| 21:48.23 | NeoTron | Cryect: do you use absolute values or a rolling average in the recount graphs? |
| 21:48.29 | *** join/#wowace what-K (i=what-K@xdsl-81-173-150-193.netcologne.de) |
| 21:48.47 | what-K | hi all can someone help me please with bigwigs i have a problem |
| 21:48.49 | NeoTron | looked like the realtime ones uses rolling average value at least |
| 21:49.15 | Gandharva | durcyn: Did it without the directory. Still the same error. |
| 21:49.47 | Adirelle | something bad with Ace2 ? just updated, I got BigWigs and Postal fucked up |
| 21:49.48 | vhaarr | what-K: Just ask. |
| 21:49.56 | what-K | ok |
| 21:50.12 | what-K | can i qry u ? |
| 21:50.18 | vhaarr | No, you'll ask your questions here. |
| 21:50.22 | what-K | kk |
| 21:50.26 | what-K | then mom im german |
| 21:50.55 | what-K | when i copy the folders in my interface folder |
| 21:51.07 | vhaarr | Interface\AddOns |
| 21:51.22 | what-K | and start wow and go in kara |
| 21:51.29 | what-K | the addon is disabled |
| 21:51.42 | what-K | then i activate the addon manual |
| 21:51.50 | Saroz | [Ammo], someone using violation 41124 not showing up at ALL |
| 21:51.59 | what-K | and activate all bosses manual |
| 21:52.02 | vhaarr | what-K: Sounds like a problem with the deDE translation. |
| 21:52.13 | what-K | after 5mins all addons are disabled again :( |
| 21:52.34 | Gandharva | durcyn: It seems it's only happening when firefox is closed. Will check this out... So maybe it's really a firefox mess. |
| 21:52.35 | Primer | ok, I have my macro working, but if the text has been faded, it doesn't unfade |
| 21:52.38 | what-K | so the addon is mostly off :( |
| 21:52.51 | Adirelle | anyone idea about thoses erros : http://ace.pastey.net/59584 ? |
| 21:52.59 | vhaarr | what-K: You'll have to talk to some german person, I don't understand your problem. |
| 21:53.00 | durcyn | Gandharva: highly doubtful. WAU 1.9 is .NET 2.0 |
| 21:53.03 | trh | what-K: the addons auto-activate when you're at the boss, so i don't really see the problem |
| 21:53.18 | durcyn | Gandharva: you might make sure your .NET is fully patched |
| 21:53.20 | what-K | really ß |
| 21:53.21 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r41144 10ItemValue/ (Class_StatSet.lua ItemValue.lua): |
| 21:53.21 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 21:53.21 | CIA-22 | - Fixed typo |
| 21:53.33 | what-K | ok then i will try it |
| 21:53.37 | vhaarr | what-K: trh is german, maybe he'll help you in your native language instead. |
| 21:53.43 | Gandharva | durcyn: I'm sure it is. |
| 21:53.56 | NeoTron | what-K: if you mouseover a boss, it'll enable that addon s a test |
| 21:54.05 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r41145 10ItemValue_DrDamage/Class_DrDamageSet.lua: |
| 21:54.05 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 21:54.05 | CIA-22 | - Fix for extreme spelldamage values |
| 21:54.32 | what-K | ok i will try it |
| 21:54.40 | trh | vhaarr: his problem is, that the boss mods auto-deactivate after 5 minutes if they were manually activated |
| 21:54.48 | trh | vhaarr: "problem" |
| 21:54.48 | vhaarr | trh: BigWigs does no such thing. |
| 21:55.00 | durcyn | hrm, speaking of WAU, there's a bitvector in FileSystem.cs, goes fine 1 through 4096, then hits... 9182 |
| 21:55.08 | vhaarr | trh: Modules stay active until you kill the boss or disable them manually. |
| 21:55.19 | Primer | excellent! |
| 21:55.21 | trh | vhaarr: strange.. well.. probably pebkac |
| 21:55.25 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 21:55.35 | harl|WoW | what does GetAttribute("id", index) return that i cannot save it to a variable ? |
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| 21:56.49 | vhaarr | I didn't know :GetAttribute wanted two parameters |
| 21:56.57 | trh | me neither ;) |
| 21:57.04 | trh | just looked into wowwiki to confirm ;) |
| 21:57.25 | harl|WoW | well, i tried with GetID() and it didn't work either |
| 21:57.33 | vhaarr | err |
| 21:57.42 | vhaarr | local id = frame:GetAttribute("id") |
| 21:57.42 | Dustwhisper | addonrequest: Some addon that will show aggro deficit from Xth number on threatmeter wherever you want it on screen |
| 21:57.45 | *** join/#wowace what-K (i=what-K@xdsl-81-173-150-193.netcologne.de) |
| 21:57.47 | ckknight | :GetAttribute() is only one parameter. |
| 21:57.53 | Dustwhisper | for example on void reaver |
| 21:58.19 | ckknight | Xth? |
| 21:58.23 | vhaarr | Dustwhisper: Should be easy to make with a macro, even. |
| 21:58.24 | vhaarr | Nth |
| 21:58.25 | sbu | something is wrong with lurker mod :/ |
| 21:58.38 | what-K | trh i have forget to ask the addon bosswhisperer gave it sucht addon in german ? |
| 21:58.56 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Pull out a threat bar form Omen :) |
| 21:59.06 | Morghus | ckknight: For CowTip, is it possible to bring up a "config-mode" for it, so it's possible to see settings done in real-time, instead of looking around for an appropriate target? |
| 21:59.07 | vhaarr | what-K: Tell me what the german text would be, and I'll add it. |
| 21:59.15 | Daemona | <3 that feature Antiarc|Work :) |
| 21:59.59 | ckknight | Morghus: imho, I don't see what good it would do, since the texts can't be parsed without a unit to parse them on |
| 22:00.17 | trh | vhaarr: "I'm busy fighting %s, he's currently at %d%%." => "Ich bin im Kampf mit %s, er hat noch %d%% Leben" |
| 22:00.17 | vhaarr | what-K: "I'm busy fighting %s, he's currently at %d%%." |
| 22:00.35 | trh | vhaarr: "Combat ended after %d minutes." => "Kampf beendet nach %d Minuten" |
| 22:00.49 | trh | vhaarr: add a . to both ;) |
| 22:00.53 | vhaarr | of course |
| 22:01.14 | Morghus | ckknight: I imagine it like the PitBull config-mode, where you can see the stuff, and how it's placed. Right now it feels a bit haphazard, and a config mode -sounds- nice atleast. |
| 22:01.42 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41146 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.lua: BossWhisperer: deDE, thanks trh. |
| 22:01.45 | Imp4kT | How do you change the length of fubar? |
| 22:01.58 | Lywellyn | I want to play with a new AddOn that will end up being useful to me. Give me ideas. :D |
| 22:01.59 | Morghus | ckknight: Just a big square that shows where and how it'd be placed, instead of me going back to double-check :) |
| 22:02.06 | Adirelle | ckknight: anything changed with AceModuleCore ?? |
| 22:02.10 | Antiarc|Work | Someone explain this spam I just got to me: http://ace.pastey.net/59598 |
| 22:02.30 | ckknight | Adirelle: no |
| 22:02.39 | ckknight | Morghus: um, that exists. |
| 22:02.40 | Dustwhisper | you can Antiarc|Work? |
| 22:02.45 | ckknight | Morghus: it's the "Set anchor" thing |
| 22:02.46 | Dustwhisper | anyway to color your own threat in purple or some other insane color |
| 22:02.47 | Adirelle | ckknight: something wrong with oRA2 and Postal using it |
| 22:03.03 | ckknight | Adirelle: well, I didn't change anything |
| 22:03.07 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Yes, click + drag a bar out of the main view to create a standalone, right-click any bar in the main view to set color/texture/etc for it |
| 22:03.24 | trh | Antiarc|Work: some shares stuff |
| 22:03.25 | Adirelle | ckknight: just updated both, got http://ace.pastey.net/59584, can't see why it does this |
| 22:03.35 | Adirelle | I'll try to checkout them instead of using WAU |
| 22:03.47 | trh | Antiarc|Work: shares = those things in DAX, NASDAQ and so on ;) |
| 22:03.54 | trh | Antiarc|Work: not sure if that's the right word =) |
| 22:03.59 | Dustwhisper | that rocks |
| 22:04.05 | Dustwhisper | it shows how much under the one i am |
| 22:04.08 | Dustwhisper | greatest idea ever! |
| 22:04.11 | Dustwhisper | props Antiarc|Work! |
| 22:04.14 | Morghus | ckknight: I know about that one, that's ok. It's not what I was looking for. I was thinking a box that shows [Race][Level][Class] and where in the box it'd appear :) |
| 22:04.32 | trh | Antiarc|Work: HYIP = high yield investment program |
| 22:04.38 | Antiarc|Work | Ahhh. |
| 22:04.41 | Imp4kT | How do you change the length of fubar? |
| 22:04.45 | what-K | vhaarr can i download the new version ? |
| 22:04.50 | Antiarc|Work | Imp4kT:Drag one of the ends. |
| 22:04.55 | Imp4kT | oo |
| 22:04.57 | trh | Antiarc|Work: finally my minor subject finance stuff paid off ;) |
| 22:05.03 | Antiarc|Work | hahah |
| 22:05.04 | vhaarr | what-K: If you use SVN, yes - if you use WAU, you have to wait 15-20min. |
| 22:06.01 | what-K | vhaarr i dont use svn or wau i go on the page and download manual |
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| 22:06.13 | trh | what-K: same as wau |
| 22:06.19 | trh | what-K: (at least in wait-time ;) |
| 22:06.38 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, have you had any bug reports since i merged SIC? |
| 22:06.47 | Dustwhisper | hmm |
| 22:06.49 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: Nope |
| 22:06.52 | mjc | Kirkburn: ping |
| 22:06.55 | Dustwhisper | Antiarc|Work anyway to have the bar you pull out be in the threatmeter aswell |
| 22:06.55 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, good :) |
| 22:06.57 | Dustwhisper | yes i want duplicate bars |
| 22:07.05 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: It should stay in there |
| 22:07.17 | Kirkburn | mjc, pong |
| 22:07.29 | Dustwhisper | sure didnt |
| 22:07.31 | Dustwhisper | not for the next fight |
| 22:07.33 | mjc | Kirkburn: pictorial exploitation ftw |
| 22:07.37 | what-K | ok so i wait :D |
| 22:07.47 | Dustwhisper | i had to close the threatbar for the tank |
| 22:07.51 | trh | Antiarc|Work: a nice feature for omen would be to let it have flash the Healthframe if you reach a configurable amount of threat % to the highest threat =) |
| 22:08.13 | Antiarc|Work | trh: The pullout bars flash if you reach 90% of the bar target's threat |
| 22:08.26 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Sounds like a job for a pitbull plugin! :) |
| 22:08.28 | trh | Antiarc|Work: ya, but it's more noticable if the whole screen flashs :) |
| 22:08.37 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, the whole screen |
| 22:08.37 | trh | Antiarc|Work: no, not the health bar :) |
| 22:08.40 | Antiarc|Work | La Vendetta style |
| 22:08.44 | trh | Antiarc|Work: that blizzard lowhealthframe thing |
| 22:08.47 | trh | Antiarc|Work: yep :) |
| 22:09.00 | trh | Antiarc|Work: i use it for kos-warning... it's awesome ;) |
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| 22:09.12 | Kirkburn | mjc, remind me what you mean!? |
| 22:09.15 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:09.40 | mjc | "-; Kirkburn, ''Guildmaster'' : Guild leader. Contact for adminship and advice on how to best use your fuzzy kittens in pictorial exploitation." |
| 22:09.44 | Antiarc|Work | Oh geez, that's easy. |
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| 22:10.46 | what-K | trh gaves a bigwigs pack with old and new instaces ? |
| 22:11.05 | Kirkburn | mjc, lol! |
| 22:11.06 | trh | what-K: no, but as the boss modules are only loaded if needed it doesn't matter |
| 22:11.10 | Morghus | trh: That'd be hell if you tend to dance at 1% below grabbing aggro :P |
| 22:11.25 | trh | Morghus: i tend to dance at 110% ;) |
| 22:11.37 | Morghus | Something like that, yes :P |
| 22:11.39 | trh | Morghus: at 130% i get it ;) |
| 22:11.45 | what-K | so i can download the last addon with zg and so on and copy the newest version into it and overwrite all ? |
| 22:11.56 | trh | what-K: yep |
| 22:12.28 | polka | noob question of the day: who can I mail Transcriptor files to? |
| 22:12.29 | what-K | ok thx |
| 22:12.31 | mjc | Kirkburn: yar; wowwiki recent changes |
| 22:13.17 | Adenosine | I want to be in the mazzleUI 1.1 beta :( |
| 22:13.35 | Adirelle | ckknight: for some reason I can't get, AceModuleCore ain't embeded in Postal, though it appears in the call to :new(), any idea about what could be happening ? |
| 22:14.08 | vhaarr | polka: Funkeh` and me. |
| 22:14.13 | vhaarr | polka: For what boss? |
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| 22:14.42 | polka | archi |
| 22:15.04 | vhaarr | alright |
| 22:15.13 | vhaarr | polka: My e-mail is rabbit.magtheridon@gmail.com |
| 22:15.20 | vhaarr | polka: I'll let Funkeh` tell you his e-mail. |
| 22:15.28 | Mikk | Adirelle: It's prolly just being lucky and getting AceModuleCore loaded by something before it loads |
| 22:15.57 | ckknight | Adirelle: it doesn't have to be embedded, it just has to exist |
| 22:16.06 | polka | didn't realy have to read up on that transcriptor, so I made a new file for each try |
| 22:16.07 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41147 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Hyjal: add Archimonde mod |
| 22:16.15 | Adirelle | mikk: you mean't that only two addons of out of 80 are unlucky ? |
| 22:16.16 | Dustwhisper | any way to change size on the dragout bar Antiarc|Work |
| 22:16.29 | vhaarr | polka: Right, there Funkeh` just added a Archimonde mod anyway. |
| 22:16.34 | Adirelle | ckknight: Postal complains about missing :SetModuleMixins |
| 22:16.36 | *** join/#wowace Coldheart (i=cold@systembolaget.us) |
| 22:16.37 | polka | :)) |
| 22:16.39 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 22:16.45 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Yeah, drag the grip in the lower right hand corner |
| 22:16.48 | Adirelle | ckknight: and then about missing "NewModule()" |
| 22:16.55 | ckknight | Adirelle: so it's an old version, clearly |
| 22:17.00 | ckknight | or you have an error before that |
| 22:17.14 | Adirelle | ckknight: very weird, and for the * |
| 22:17.31 | Adirelle | *old* version, I just checked out Ace2, Postal and oRA2 from SVN |
| 22:18.07 | Adirelle | btw, adding AceLibrary('AceModuleCore-2.0'):embed(Postal) prevents the error :/ |
| 22:18.19 | polka | Won't send em then, gj on making the mod for him allready |
| 22:18.22 | Adirelle | and it works just fine |
| 22:18.24 | Adirelle | really weird |
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| 22:19.11 | NeoTron | I might have to go try to use /stopcasting ; /cast Shadow Bolt again since that's all I do |
| 22:19.25 | Primer | Anyone know the function to immediately unfade the text of a chatframe? I bet sylvanaar knows |
| 22:20.33 | Adirelle | ckknight: believe it or not : |
| 22:20.45 | Adirelle | ckknight: Postal = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceModuleCore-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "AceHook-2.1") |
| 22:20.45 | Adirelle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:20.55 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 22:21.01 | Adirelle | ckknight: but putting "AceModuleCore-2.0" last works... |
| 22:21.08 | ckknight | weird |
| 22:21.38 | Adirelle | maybe some condition with mixin embed ordering... |
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| 22:26.41 | Dustwhisper | Aye Antiarc|Work seems to be between each mob/fight where it spazzes out |
| 22:26.54 | Antiarc|Work | What spazzed out? |
| 22:27.15 | Dustwhisper | the person i drag out to hav eit's own bar |
| 22:27.20 | Dustwhisper | doesn't show up on omen next pack |
| 22:27.26 | Dustwhisper | and he's the tank .. :P |
| 22:27.31 | Dustwhisper | if i do remove the bar |
| 22:27.33 | Dustwhisper | he magically appears |
| 22:30.50 | Adirelle | that's really, really weird, I can have Postal and Ora2 fails to load by changing the order of the mixins in AceLibrary('AceAddon-2.0'):new(...) |
| 22:31.09 | Adirelle | (mainly by changing the position of AceModuleCore-2.0) |
| 22:32.01 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Bizarre, but thank you. Excellent. |
| 22:32.07 | Antiarc|Work | I'll see about getting that fixed. |
| 22:32.20 | ckknight | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/05/14/small-boxr/ |
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| 22:33.17 | Dustwhisper | im good at having bizarre errors |
| 22:33.19 | Dustwhisper | so np! |
| 22:39.03 | ckknight | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/06/02/buhcket-kitteh/ |
| 22:39.25 | trh_ | oO(ckknight found a new toy ;) |
| 22:39.58 | durcyn | lowellcats make my head hurt |
| 22:40.43 | harl|WoW | what's wrong with .. HINSPECT_SAVEDDATA[UnitName("target")]["Items"][HInspect_HeadSlot] = GetInventoryItemLink("target",HInspect_HeadSlot:GetAttribute("id")); .. that it causes the entry to become "--[[ skipped entry with table key ]]" when it's saved to the SV file ? |
| 22:41.34 | harl|WoW | i can read, but i don't see the logic behind this |
| 22:43.19 | Primer | can one make a macro for an event? Say, to unequip riding crop on forced dismount and re-equip <trinket>? |
| 22:44.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Primer: no, macros must be initiated by a hardware event. You could make a macro to requip your trinket, but you'd have to trigger it manually. There are mods that do what you want, though. |
| 22:45.35 | Primer | NightHawkTheSane: mods that would trigger on non player initiated events? |
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| 22:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 22:45.49 | Primer | ahhh ok |
| 22:45.50 | Primer | thanks |
| 22:46.25 | NightHawkTheSane | obviously, if you get knocked off your mount in combat, it wont re equeip your trinket, but many mods can queue it up to do it after you leave combat. |
| 22:46.46 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: huh? you can change gear programatically out of combat lockdown |
| 22:47.07 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: er, yeah, i know? i said in combat... |
| 22:47.27 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: who changes trinkets in combat? |
| 22:47.39 | Gnarfoz | no one, because it's not possible :D |
| 22:47.39 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: .... what are you talking about? *boggle* |
| 22:47.58 | durcyn | maybe i walked into the middle of something, but what he asked is doable, and is already done with ClosetGnome_Mount |
| 22:48.05 | Gnarfoz | itemrack does it, too |
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| 22:48.21 | Gnarfoz | gear swapping through addons doesn't need hardware events |
| 22:48.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I never said it did |
| 22:48.31 | NightHawkTheSane | -macros- do. |
| 22:48.34 | Gnarfoz | I know. |
| 22:48.43 | Gnarfoz | just clarifying what needs and what doesn't need h/w events |
| 22:49.09 | Mudkipz | Any settings I need to change in the new WAU? Addons aren't being listed ... |
| 22:49.50 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, this teacher is the win.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010646.html |
| 22:50.56 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41148 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Archimonde: add fear alert |
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| 22:52.41 | harl|WoW | Mudkipz: it's working perfectly for me and i didn't have to change anything at all. never deleted any configuration files or whatnot. |
| 22:53.12 | Mudkipz | hmm that's weird |
| 22:53.22 | Mudkipz | I'll redownload |
| 22:53.38 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r41149 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:53.38 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 22:53.38 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Recovery.Stone.Other : 11951:800 Whipper Root |
| 22:53.38 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Recovery.Stone.Warlock |
| 22:53.38 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Buff.Water Breathing : 24421:30 |
| 22:53.41 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, pretty please could you look at enabling bank support in SanityBags (no matter how rudimentary) |
| 22:53.55 | Antiarc|Work | When I get some time, yes! :P |
| 22:54.16 | KarlThePagan | Mudkipz, join #wau and let me help you out there |
| 22:54.22 | TheKarn | meh, ThreatLib and Omen arn't _that_ important... :P |
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| 23:01.17 | NeoTron | I'm amazed at how transparent guild are these days |
| 23:01.25 | Chompers | how so? |
| 23:01.38 | NeoTron | I remember the pre-C'thun brainstorm days where videos and strats were closely guarded secrets |
| 23:02.01 | NeoTron | never used to get videos of the first ever kill.. |
| 23:02.10 | shieldb | I don't think that there was a site like bosskillers that was paying people to write boss strats, either |
| 23:02.18 | NeoTron | well true |
| 23:02.23 | NeoTron | but that's not all there is to ie |
| 23:02.30 | NeoTron | bosskillers pay for videos too? :P |
| 23:02.38 | shieldb | heh, no idea |
| 23:05.07 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r41150 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
| 23:06.12 | Killmore | [2007/06/21 18:59:03-111-x1]: Threat-1.0-41087 (Threat-1.0):949: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) --- |
| 23:06.17 | sylvanaar | Primer download prat and look at its code and just copy the code for what you want |
| 23:06.21 | Killmore | when using Shadowfiend |
| 23:06.39 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work must finally commit his petclass module =) |
| 23:06.49 | Antiarc|Work | what, what? |
| 23:06.54 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm |
| 23:07.41 | Primer | sylvanaar: thanks |
| 23:08.20 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: or quickfix the error with a if ~= nil ;) |
| 23:08.31 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: guess you're getting 10 reports about it a day ;) |
| 23:08.39 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, more than that |
| 23:08.46 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't fixed it because I want to find out what's causing it |
| 23:08.51 | Antiarc|Work | It's harmless, but I want to fix the source |
| 23:09.01 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: it often happens when the pet spawns |
| 23:09.09 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: like when you get off your mount and pet respawns |
| 23:09.11 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. Wonder if it's a race condition. |
| 23:09.17 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, ok. |
| 23:09.19 | Antiarc|Work | I can do that. |
| 23:09.27 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: i *guess* that one of the Unit* functions returns nil ;) |
| 23:09.40 | Antiarc|Work | Well, it's an explicit assertation |
| 23:10.44 | Chompers | 30 arena games so far and we've got a 1503 rating |
| 23:10.46 | Chompers | grrr |
| 23:10.53 | Cryect | yeah I hate when you could quick fix a bug but you really should find whats causing the issue since likely causes other issues :-p |
| 23:13.23 | NightHawkTheSane | gah I hate writing authorization code. |
| 23:13.34 | NightHawkTheSane | er, authentication code, rather. |
| 23:14.42 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41151 10Recount/GUI_Realtime.lua: Recount - Shortens the title for realtime graphs now if its too wide |
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| 23:19.24 | Mudkipz | hueg |
| 23:19.25 | Mudkipz | http://ace.pastey.net/59715 |
| 23:21.29 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41152 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua): Omen: Moved the Grow Up option to the Display menu. Added warning crap, totally untested, recommend not using it for a few hours. :P |
| 23:21.35 | vhaarr | http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nihilzy5.jpg |
| 23:22.54 | winkiller | wow, looks busy |
| 23:22.59 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: That's fixed in the latest version I think |
| 23:23.14 | Mudkipz | so about that buggrabber log |
| 23:23.30 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: poor guy |
| 23:23.57 | Mudkipz | Any hints on resolving all that huge list of errors? |
| 23:24.12 | ilifin | vhaarr, what inspect frames is that :3 |
| 23:24.21 | Daemona | hey vhaarr that pic was around the nihi channel like hmm 4 hours ago? ;) |
| 23:24.36 | vhaarr | Daemona: I wasn't. |
| 23:26.08 | ag` | wtf is going on in that screenshot |
| 23:26.26 | Daemona | kungen in orgrimmar after world first illidan ;) |
| 23:26.37 | Daemona | (nihilum maintank) |
| 23:26.44 | ag` | uh, and who got 80mb used in 2.1? |
| 23:27.06 | Daemona | uuuh dunno? i break 100mb when loading auctioneer ;) |
| 23:27.13 | Daemona | i guess i need to cut down on some addons again ;) |
| 23:29.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: either that or clean out your auctioneer db :P |
| 23:30.02 | winkiller | ilifin: just SuperInspect |
| 23:31.32 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41153 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Pet.lua Threat-1.0.lua): Threat-1.0: Fixed a race condition when summoning pets. |
| 23:31.55 | Killmore | oh ! |
| 23:35.51 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: missing translation "Warnings" in omen, btw |
| 23:36.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41154 10Omen/localization_enUS.lua: Omen: Might help if I committed the updated localization file. |
| 23:36.37 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r41155 10VanasKoS/VanasKoS.toc: VanasKoS: updated X-Embeds and OptionalDeps |
| 23:39.02 | Primer | seems that FCF_GetCurrentChatFrameID() always returns 0 |
| 23:39.04 | Daemona | NightHawkTheSane NEVER EVER i got it since game release ! ;) |
| 23:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: lol. I'm sure that price data from 2005 is really useful, too! :D |
| 23:40.01 | Funkeh` | or you could jsut load it in your bank alt instead of your main :) |
| 23:40.04 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: "args.warnings.args.showWarnings: "desc" must be a string. OmenMenu:807 |
| 23:40.16 | Antiarc|Work | Doh |
| 23:40.19 | Daemona | pff fonly a big enough sample size gives suficient statistical information ;) |
| 23:40.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 23:40.39 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41156 10Omen/OmenMenu.lua: Omen: Menu fix |
| 23:40.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: if I ever want to know the yearly trends on linen cloth, I'll be sure to come to you :) |
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| 23:41.42 | Daemona | ;) |
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| 23:48.07 | sbu | any1 tested arkinventory 2? |
| 23:51.14 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41157 10beql/ (beql.lua beql.toc questlog.lua): |
| 23:51.14 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 23:51.14 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.15 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.56 | abyssichate | Does Bosswhisperer whisper something like BDM, reporting how many people in raid are alive, what is the status on the boss and informations like that? |
| 23:53.06 | durcyn | abyssichate: download it and see? |
| 23:53.07 | kenlyric | no, I imagine bosswhisperer is useful. |
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| 23:54.03 | abyssichate | It could be useful to some extents |
| 23:54.16 | sbu | bosswhisperer doesnt do anything for me :o it worked ~2 times with nightbane... |
| 23:54.38 | abyssichate | And durcyn, what's wrong about gathing informations about one addon? |
| 23:55.32 | Kemayo | Power cuts are a pain |
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| 23:57.56 | Thrae | ckknight: Heh, CowTip. You know, I was (and still am) going to include basically what CowTip + DogTag does in a TinyTip module. |
| 23:58.15 | ckknight | Thrae: okay, so? |
| 23:58.33 | sbu | ckknight: bars are coming, right? :p |
| 23:58.42 | abyssichate | ckknight: are you planning to support Gladiator's data in the future' |
| 23:58.43 | abyssichate | +? |
| 23:58.50 | sbu | ohhh right |
| 23:58.59 | ckknight | abyssichate: I suppose that could be added into DogTag... |
| 23:59.00 | sbu | dogtag gladiator |
| 23:59.08 | abyssichate | true |
| 23:59.30 | ckknight | sbu: add it to the wishlist |
| 23:59.31 | ckknight | the bars |
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