| 00:00.51 | Antiarc|Work | Is there a comprehensive "How to optimize your lua code" guide somewhere, preferably in wiki format? |
| 00:00.59 | pastamancer | hmm, but is table.concat faster than string.format? |
| 00:01.06 | Gagorian | Doesn't seem so |
| 00:01.09 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: Yeah, significantly so. |
| 00:01.15 | Gagorian | I mean, yeah. |
| 00:01.15 | pastamancer | ah |
| 00:01.21 | Gagorian | string.format is the slowest |
| 00:01.25 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: http://ace.pastey.net/57097 |
| 00:01.28 | Antiarc|Work | That's my test script |
| 00:01.32 | Antiarc|Work | Running it |
| 00:01.41 | pastamancer | slower than string concats... I'm surprised |
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| 00:02.15 | pastamancer | oh, you should assign to the table in the table.concat loop |
| 00:02.20 | Gagorian | I upvalued string.format in it. I got the following times: 6.39 table concat, 2.516 simple concat, 13.187 string.format |
| 00:02.21 | Antiarc|Work | 4.9 sec for table.concat (upvalue), 3.15 sec for manual concat, 20.2 sec for string.format |
| 00:02.25 | pastamancer | since that's really part of the overhead |
| 00:03.03 | Shirik | 192:572:27 12‹Antiarc|Work12› 3.5 sec to do 1m number roundings with v = math_floor(v * 100) / 100, 27 sec to do it with ("%2.2f"):format(v) |
| 00:03.03 | ckknight | I has an idea! |
| 00:03.05 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: You got about twice the string.format time? |
| 00:03.10 | Shirik | however, for abnormally large numbers, the former will not be correct |
| 00:03.15 | Gagorian | Rest of the values are about the same between our tests |
| 00:03.16 | Shirik | but it has to be pretty quick |
| 00:03.20 | Shirik | s/quick/big/ |
| 00:03.39 | hypetech | bob loves fish |
| 00:03.41 | hypetech | s/fish/snails |
| 00:03.46 | hypetech | hmm |
| 00:04.06 | ckknight | I has an idea! |
| 00:04.13 | ckknight | wait, already said that |
| 00:04.14 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 00:04.18 | ckknight | I'm gonna do that idea |
| 00:04.27 | Shirik | we're screwed |
| 00:04.40 | ckknight | ah, it's true. |
| 00:05.03 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, big change clearing/populating the table |
| 00:05.22 | Antiarc|Work | 23.061, 3.125, 21.171 |
| 00:05.37 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net/57098 |
| 00:07.11 | Antiarc|Work | but now, I go home. |
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| 00:08.19 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Thanks for the testing inspiration. |
| 00:09.12 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r40619 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Supremus: Use the correct iterator. |
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| 00:14.43 | ag` | ¯\(º_o)/¯ |
| 00:15.40 | ckknight | lol, ag` |
| 00:16.08 | ag` | yeah dunno, lol |
| 00:16.38 | ag` | d(º¿º)b |
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| 00:18.31 | abyssichate | Anyone else getting errors from Pitbull? |
| 00:18.34 | Eyes-t | how come chrono meter doesn't refresh when i add multiple scortches? |
| 00:18.49 | hypetech | Eyes-t: are you the only mage scorching? |
| 00:18.58 | Eyes-t | yes |
| 00:19.00 | hypetech | o |
| 00:19.01 | ckknight | abyssichate: what errors? |
| 00:19.03 | hypetech | dunno then |
| 00:19.34 | hypetech | I have problems with the fact that I can't see a timer if another mage laid on the last scorch, then they aren't watching and let the whole stack drop :( |
| 00:19.46 | Eyes-t | correct i also have that proble |
| 00:20.00 | hyperChipmunk | ag wtf |
| 00:20.30 | hypetech | um? you gonna be okay hyperChipmunk? |
| 00:21.09 | hypetech | do I have to add CandyBar as a mixin or anything? or just have it enabled? |
| 00:21.32 | abyssichate | ckknight: nevermind, I updated it and just did a /rl while a restart of wow was indeed needed |
| 00:21.33 | Eyes-t | oh and iliked the last verison of wowaceupdater :) |
| 00:22.45 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: any chance you can change 'Side' in the auras to something like 'Position'? |
| 00:23.17 | Eyes-t | yeah that conused me too when updating and had to repotions the buffs |
| 00:23.34 | hypetech | the first green section with a code sample at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar-2.0 is formatted funny or something, goes off screen in FF and makes a HUGE box in IE |
| 00:23.42 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: there's a good chance. |
| 00:23.45 | hyperChipmunk | everybody always asks me how to change their position, and I'm pretty sure it's because they're looking for the word 'position' |
| 00:23.51 | hyperChipmunk | or placement |
| 00:23.52 | abyssichate | Fubar_QuestsFU: r40605\Tracker\Tracker.lua:257: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook secure function "AddQuestWatch". Use `SecureHook' or add `true' to the argument list to override. |
| 00:24.13 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r40620 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.toc: FuBar_FriendsFu: bump toc to 20100 |
| 00:24.14 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I'm planning on adding a shitload of positions to Aura, like what happened with combo points and all the icons/texts |
| 00:24.47 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r40621 10IDCard/IDCard.toc: IDCard: bump toc to 20100 |
| 00:25.16 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r40622 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.toc: simpleMinimap: bump toc to 20100 |
| 00:25.28 | abyssichate | ckknight: is it normal that a lot of settings in Pitbull got reset with the latest revision? |
| 00:25.52 | ZealotOnAStick | punkie around? |
| 00:25.52 | abyssichate | like aura positions and HP format and so on |
| 00:25.56 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r40623 10Teknicolor/Teknicolor.toc: Teknicolor: bump toc to.... you guessed it, 20100 |
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| 00:26.05 | hyperChipmunk | abyssichate: yes |
| 00:26.19 | hyperChipmunk | that's kinda how this got brought up |
| 00:26.33 | hyperChipmunk | it's the one option that nobody can seem to find whenever things change |
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| 00:27.54 | hypetech | awww...I haven't been on yet, so my pitbull's gonna be reset tomorrow :( |
| 00:27.57 | hypetech | damn you |
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| 00:28.03 | ckknight | yes, abyssichate |
| 00:28.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40624 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - optimization |
| 00:29.13 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40625 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Blizz/Blizz.lua Tracker/Tracker.lua): |
| 00:29.13 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 00:29.13 | CIA-22 | - Put back in those uses of SecureHook that turn out, on investigation, to be necessary. |
| 00:30.16 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: Bartender3-3.1 r40066\Bartender3_FuBar.lua:69: Cannot find a library instance of Tablet-2.0. |
| 00:31.19 | break19 | ckknight: slight bug in pitbulls config mode, when changing sliders for "All units" buff/debuff size doesnt appear to stick, but it does.. it appears to revert to a certain size, even tho the size *is* changed |
| 00:31.45 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:33.10 | break19 | question. whats the fastest way to copy chat window locations and channel selections, from 1 character to another? |
| 00:33.48 | trh | there isn't a continue; statement in lua, or? |
| 00:34.31 | break19 | if I copy the "chat-cache.txt" file from the character's wtf folder, will that do it? |
| 00:34.47 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 00:34.50 | TheKarn | ok am i just being slow or is it not possible to use a type='text' to silently run a function (instead it spams "x is now set to [y]" even with get = false) |
| 00:34.54 | break19 | k tnx, nice n easy then :) |
| 00:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 00:35.24 | TheKarn | break19 i have a page in Omnibus that sets them up :) |
| 00:35.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40626 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove debug line |
| 00:35.52 | ckknight | TheKarn: message = false |
| 00:38.42 | TheKarn | ckknight, nope it still says it |
| 00:38.55 | ckknight | check AceOptions |
| 00:39.45 | TheKarn | http://karn.pastey.net/57099 thats what i'm using |
| 00:40.07 | aen` | ckknight: how come the class text doesnt show NPC class now? |
| 00:40.18 | TheKarn | i just wanna do "/myaddon some long string to use as the argument for the called function" |
| 00:40.34 | hyperChipmunk | you want a text then |
| 00:40.35 | TheKarn | and yet it pipes out "filter: filter is now set to [None]" |
| 00:40.42 | hyperChipmunk | with whachacallit off |
| 00:40.43 | TheKarn | hyperChipmunk, it is a text |
| 00:40.57 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r40627 10SendSelf/SendSelf.toc: SendSelf: X-Category: Mail for Niagara/etc purposes. |
| 00:41.36 | trh | Cryect: there? |
| 00:42.07 | ckknight | aen`: dunno, it should |
| 00:42.15 | hyperChipmunk | thta ought to work |
| 00:42.33 | aen` | ive tried the dogtag for it and it just shows lvl |
| 00:43.32 | ckknight | aen`: it does for me. |
| 00:43.53 | ckknight | aen`: you're not targetting a friendly NPC are you? |
| 00:44.23 | aen` | neutral and or enemy |
| 00:45.52 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40628 10Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: Fill out OptionalDeps. |
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| 00:46.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40629 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: |
| 00:46.30 | CIA-22 | .AceLocale-2.2 - some memory optimizations. |
| 00:46.30 | CIA-22 | - unit tests are at the bottom, commented out - note: assumes enUS. |
| 00:46.35 | ckknight | aen`: well, I just targetted a Wolf, and it's a Warrior |
| 00:46.48 | ckknight | please test AceLocale-2.2 |
| 00:46.55 | ckknight | especially you crazy foreign-types |
| 00:47.07 | durcyn | ckknight: any chance of a global 'size' setting for pb? |
| 00:47.16 | ckknight | durcyn: it's in there. |
| 00:47.23 | durcyn | oh, niagara must be blind then |
| 00:47.45 | ckknight | durcyn: oh, yea, it doesn't update the all units menu if you use niagara |
| 00:47.54 | ckknight | I don't test with Niagara... |
| 00:48.06 | durcyn | it's ok, i don't mind using your dewdrop, laziness took hold. |
| 00:48.37 | durcyn | and i just realized you moved it to 'all units' and the last 6 lines served no purpose but to annoy |
| 00:48.41 | ckknight | durcyn: do me a favor |
| 00:48.49 | durcyn | sigh@self |
| 00:48.57 | ckknight | durcyn: add "Waterfall-1.0 support" to the wishlist |
| 00:49.18 | hypetech | hmm. I keep getting bad argument #4 to 'Register', string or nil expected, got table....my register line is self:RegisterCandyBar("PolyTimerBar", 50, PolyTimer, nil, blue, nil) |
| 00:49.20 | durcyn | see, the thing is.. if you look in the right section, it actually works in niagara. |
| 00:49.28 | hypetech | bahh |
| 00:49.28 | hypetech | nvm |
| 00:49.40 | ckknight | someone should add it |
| 00:49.43 | ckknight | otherwise it'll never happen |
| 00:49.59 | hypetech | quotes ftw |
| 00:50.36 | aen` | shit does yogurt stain? |
| 00:50.53 | ckknight | yes |
| 00:51.40 | aen` | cant clean the bloody mess b/c of the elixir of shadows buff |
| 00:52.01 | hypetech | wow I <3 candybar, that was far too easy |
| 00:52.18 | aen` | gah |
| 00:52.23 | aen` | another aloft error with priest.lua |
| 00:52.25 | aen` | for shadowfiend |
| 00:52.25 | abyssichate | For how many hours are the US servers going down, 7 as usual? |
| 00:52.35 | ckknight | 24 for me |
| 00:52.47 | ckknight | and 10 other realms |
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| 00:53.04 | hypetech | ckknight: you in that battlegroup merger? |
| 00:53.13 | ckknight | yep |
| 00:53.16 | ckknight | which I am so glad of |
| 00:53.21 | hypetech | hehe |
| 00:53.27 | ckknight | pvp on my realm blows because of it |
| 00:53.37 | Antiarc | ? |
| 00:53.53 | hypetech | does the candybar library have support for repositioning the bar on the fly, or do I have to specify a fixed position in my code? :( |
| 00:54.38 | Dotted | What does all the WoW realms have in comon? They each have more downtime than any other WoW realm. |
| 00:54.54 | Antiarc | ckknight, you should come hang out on my lolzrp server while yours is down |
| 00:54.59 | ckknight | Dotted: lol |
| 00:55.03 | ckknight | Antiarc: okay |
| 00:55.09 | ckknight | Antiarc: <3 RP, btw |
| 00:55.28 | ckknight | well, <3 people who's names aren't Lulzmaster |
| 00:55.29 | Antiarc | I enjoy it when arena teams see we're from CC and laugh at us |
| 00:55.32 | Dotted | sorta the same with classes, all need nerfs and buffs |
| 00:55.33 | Antiarc | And then we kick their asses |
| 00:55.37 | ckknight | that's cool |
| 00:55.38 | Antiarc | And then RP over their corpses |
| 00:55.44 | ckknight | Antiarc: you're US, right? |
| 00:55.48 | Antiarc | Yeah, Cenarion Circle |
| 00:55.51 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:56.47 | ckknight | Antiarc: Allies? |
| 00:56.52 | Antiarc | Ja |
| 00:56.57 | Antiarc | Ping Adrine |
| 00:57.25 | ckknight | part of me wonders whether I should just switch... |
| 00:57.30 | ckknight | my realm kinda blow |
| 00:57.33 | ckknight | blows* |
| 00:57.39 | abyssichate | what class are you? |
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| 00:57.44 | abyssichate | warrior I bet! |
| 00:57.45 | ckknight | I normally play pally or priest |
| 00:57.50 | ckknight | <--- healer |
| 00:57.52 | Antiarc | Well, you're more than welcome to come hang with us anytime :P |
| 00:57.59 | ckknight | I'm very good at it, too |
| 00:58.00 | Antiarc | I'm my guild's GL, so they can't complain anyway. |
| 00:58.09 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:58.19 | Cryect | Antiarc had a hard time convincing people to use Omen I heard |
| 00:58.31 | trh | hope they figure out how to update good in the us and do it in less time in the EU :) |
| 00:58.55 | ckknight | man, Antiarc, CC is full :-P |
| 00:59.01 | ckknight | Antiarc: do you have to wait often? |
| 00:59.06 | Antiarc | It says that, but I haven't seen a queue in months |
| 00:59.13 | Antiarc | I don't remember seeing one since BC launch, actually |
| 00:59.49 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40630 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua): |
| 00:59.49 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes a bug where Threat was disabled and a variable wasn't being initialized |
| 00:59.49 | CIA-22 | -Graphs when you zoom in/out its based on releasing the mouse now, not pressing it down (this avoids issues when dragging on a fight) |
| 00:59.49 | CIA-22 | -Autodeletion of time based data is now in and can be configured in the options |
| 01:00.07 | ckknight | what should I call my char? |
| 01:00.12 | ckknight | (female) |
| 01:00.18 | ckknight | and draenei |
| 01:00.30 | Funkeh` | tailgirl |
| 01:00.35 | Antiarc | lulzmastah |
| 01:00.56 | Antiarc | If it weren't an RP server I'd recommend Bluedonkadonk |
| 01:01.30 | abyssichate | How is that programming language containing a bad word with 'fuck' or something in its name? |
| 01:01.31 | trh | to quote the nick of a irc user here: "boobies4u" |
| 01:01.33 | abyssichate | +called |
| 01:01.41 | Antiarc | abyssichate: brainfuck |
| 01:01.41 | trh | abyssichate: brainfuck |
| 01:01.48 | Antiarc | trh: pwned |
| 01:01.48 | trh | damn.. Antiarc beat me |
| 01:01.53 | Antiarc | twice. |
| 01:01.57 | abyssichate | right, thanks |
| 01:02.14 | trh | Antiarc: second one was on my client sent before yours arrived =) |
| 01:02.20 | Antiarc | heheh |
| 01:03.17 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: haha we used to do that when xserver bgs opened |
| 01:03.33 | abyssichate | http://www.lolcode.com/examples/hai-world |
| 01:03.34 | abyssichate | is this old? |
| 01:03.36 | hyperChipmunk | and we'd smoke 'em in our RP gear, too |
| 01:03.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40631 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - destroy clusters on PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD and recreate them 5 seconds after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD. |
| 01:03.48 | trh | uh.. that's bad.. Ace2 gained like 300kb in a minute with just 3 addons enabled |
| 01:04.00 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 01:04.02 | Antiarc | As soon as someone busts out the "/y lolz rp" we're all "FORSOOTH, WE ART IN THOU BASE, PWNINGST THY NOOBS" |
| 01:04.17 | ckknight | awesome. |
| 01:04.18 | trh | ckknight: ok.. 3 addons that use 10 libraries or so, but sill |
| 01:04.43 | hyperChipmunk | there were so many uncouth posts from pvp servers about putting a pansy rp realm in 'their' battlegroup in the weeks leading up to the patch |
| 01:04.58 | Antiarc | Ok, so I'm creating a multi-line edit box, but I can't seem to set any text on it |
| 01:05.32 | Antiarc | Honestly, I like being on an RP server. I really don't RP hardly ever, but the asshat population is a lot lower than on most servers. |
| 01:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | used to have a hotkey when we'd get a few pickups outlining the guidelines for proper RP conduct in our raid |
| 01:06.08 | Antiarc | You RP in raids? That's hardcore, man :) |
| 01:06.25 | Antiarc | Our general rule is to stick to RP in all public channels, but anything non-public is whatever |
| 01:06.28 | hyperChipmunk | well, i meant when we got xserver pickups |
| 01:06.31 | abyssichate | you need to be so patient to RP in raids |
| 01:06.31 | hyperChipmunk | we don't really |
| 01:06.33 | Antiarc | Ahaha, nice |
| 01:06.34 | Cryect | damn you just just increased the asshattery with ckknight ;) |
| 01:06.40 | hyperChipmunk | not in bgs at least |
| 01:06.43 | ckknight | Cryect: what asshattery? |
| 01:06.45 | hyperChipmunk | but i've done plenty of raids in RP |
| 01:06.46 | Cryect | haha that would be amusing |
| 01:06.48 | hypetech | anybody familiar with candybar anchor points? :( |
| 01:06.51 | abyssichate | Imagine RPing in arenas! |
| 01:06.55 | Antiarc | Cryect: Well, we're a bunch of assholes, so ckknight will fit right in. It's just low on asshats, which are different :P |
| 01:06.57 | Cryect | I will smite you |
| 01:06.58 | abyssichate | "Thou shalt sheep the mage" |
| 01:07.12 | Cryect | RPing on vent :-p |
| 01:07.19 | Antiarc | There was one guy a while back that bound RP macros to all his attacks |
| 01:07.22 | hyperChipmunk | but it's funny outlining an RP policy in a battleground when some pvp trogdolyte gets thrown in with us |
| 01:07.28 | Antiarc | It took about a week before nobody on the server would group with him |
| 01:07.38 | abyssichate | RPing in raid while being dressing up in mail chains |
| 01:08.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh dude we had farmer outfits, capes and hats, dresses, tuxes, everything |
| 01:08.15 | hyperChipmunk | we still beat the tar out of everyone |
| 01:08.24 | hyperChipmunk | it was the most fun time in wow |
| 01:08.43 | Cryect | yeah our guilds done similar things a few times |
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| 01:08.54 | hyperChipmunk | then it started to just be a bunch of pugs, and got really boring |
| 01:08.57 | Cryect | amusing how you still beat most people with purely buffs for stats |
| 01:09.09 | hyperChipmunk | but that first few months after xserver bgs were great |
| 01:09.11 | Chompers | I love it when everyone bands together and completly ostricises some asshat |
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| 01:09.51 | hyperChipmunk | i was Mynito Bandito, the Defender of Darnassus |
| 01:10.11 | hyperChipmunk | i had a black pantsuit, black fedora, and a black cape |
| 01:11.12 | Chompers | darnassus, the city no one visits |
| 01:11.29 | Chompers | maybe one or two people who dont know about the boat |
| 01:12.41 | hyperChipmunk | dude, that was where i queued from |
| 01:12.58 | hyperChipmunk | it became like our home base |
| 01:13.02 | hyperChipmunk | cuz we were the only ones ever there |
| 01:13.17 | hyperChipmunk | nice easy access to whipper root tubers, too =) |
| 01:13.36 | Chompers | :P |
| 01:15.37 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40632 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Fixes an error with region zooming (forgot to move code to a new onMouseDown for recording the initial position) |
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| 01:18.14 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r40633 10Decursive/ (4 files): |
| 01:18.14 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 01:18.14 | CIA-22 | - It was impossible to position the MUFs at the exact left side of the screen due to a 3 pixel offset somewhere in the code that triggered the off-screen sensor at each log-in... |
| 01:18.14 | CIA-22 | - If you set the MUFs position at < 0 x or y, x or y will be set to 0 instead of resetting the MUFs to their default position. |
| 01:18.15 | CIA-22 | - Changed the highlight texture of the MUFs handle. |
| 01:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 01:18.49 | break19 | can I dive on those MUFs? |
| 01:18.59 | hyperChipmunk | so what'd you do, just stick three pixels in the opposite direction? |
| 01:19.16 | hypetech | anybody that's bored, take a look at this and let me know if there is a better way to get the targetUnit value from my first function down to that last function without using a global variable. I've highlighted the two lines in question. http://www.pastey.net/57101 |
| 01:19.21 | hyperChipmunk | "i couldn't find it, so i just compensated it" |
| 01:21.08 | ckknight | what's the class Blizzard likes best? |
| 01:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | warlock |
| 01:21.50 | Andune | GM |
| 01:21.55 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 01:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | even gm's wish they got warlock armor |
| 01:22.10 | Andune | lol |
| 01:22.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:22.37 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:22.40 | ckknight | how's this |
| 01:22.55 | *** part/#wowace zerix (n=zerix@ip24-250-209-200.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 01:22.56 | hyperChipmunk | they're like, "hey can we get some of that wicked lock armor?" |
| 01:23.02 | hyperChipmunk | and bliz says, "no, but here's a funny hat" |
| 01:23.13 | hyperChipmunk | "you will laugh at your funny hat" |
| 01:23.23 | hyperChipmunk | "look at the hat...it's funny!" |
| 01:24.16 | Jaxon | Sanity is giving me the alt-right click menu on items, right? Letting me catergorize items? |
| 01:24.39 | hyperChipmunk | baggins does that |
| 01:24.47 | BankZ | Pitbull is the great UF of all time :) |
| 01:25.03 | hyperChipmunk | dunno bout sanity |
| 01:26.11 | NimbleRabit | does anyone know how to figure out what rating you need in arena to be top .5% in your bracket? |
| 01:26.38 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 01:26.55 | hyperChipmunk | go to the ratings page |
| 01:27.09 | hyperChipmunk | and find the highest on your server |
| 01:27.11 | hyperChipmunk | that's what you need |
| 01:27.39 | NimbleRabit | ...huh |
| 01:29.21 | BankZ | Can Violation filter out of combat data? |
| 01:29.29 | BankZ | err |
| 01:29.39 | BankZ | Can Violation filter out "out of combat" data? |
| 01:32.09 | Gagorian | local function DrD_Round(x, y) |
| 01:32.09 | Gagorian | y = y or 0 |
| 01:32.09 | Gagorian | return math_floor( x * 10 ^ y + 0.5 ) / 10 ^ y |
| 01:32.09 | Gagorian | end |
| 01:32.19 | Gagorian | can anyone think of a way to optimize that? |
| 01:32.55 | Kalman| | math_floor is a flooring function, yes? |
| 01:33.04 | Gagorian | yes, just a local version of math.floor |
| 01:33.11 | TheKarn | cast it to an integer? :P |
| 01:33.33 | ckknight | lua doesn't have integers. |
| 01:33.41 | TheKarn | i was being sarcastic :P |
| 01:33.53 | TheKarn | </sarcasm> |
| 01:33.57 | Gagorian | TheKarn: Besides it's supposed to allow inputting what accuracy to round to :p |
| 01:33.59 | Kalman| | Depends on how LUA evaluates expressions, but there might be an advantage to doing z = 10^y and flooring off of z; I don't know how smart LUA is in that sense. |
| 01:33.59 | krka | Kalman|: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 01:34.15 | Kalman| | krka: Yes. I don't really care. |
| 01:34.53 | Gagorian | nah, I tested. It's faster to put everything on one line |
| 01:35.35 | Kalman| | You're trying to round a number X to an arbitrary precision? |
| 01:36.00 | NeoTron | regarding warlocks: Rob Pardo's 8yo daughter plays a warlock |
| 01:36.05 | NeoTron | of course the class gets plenty of love |
| 01:36.15 | Gagorian | Kalman|: Indeed |
| 01:36.31 | NeoTron | "Daddy, I want some cool demonic armor!" "ok honey, I'm on it." |
| 01:37.27 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.31 | trh | it's tablet adding up memory to the ace2 lib |
| 01:37.34 | NeoTron | the wings are cool, but the helmet itself is weird |
| 01:39.07 | break19 | hmm.. is this possible in a macro? and where might I find info to write the dang thing if it is: shift click the macro to apply a poison to my mainhand, right click to apply to my offhand. |
| 01:39.18 | break19 | or some such |
| 01:39.54 | Antiarc | Try /cast Instant Poison; /use 15 (or whatever the MH slot # is) |
| 01:39.58 | Antiarc | I'll test it! |
| 01:40.47 | break19 | cast wont work. |
| 01:41.04 | break19 | its an item, not a spell, so its gotta be /use |
| 01:41.18 | aen` | cast works on everything now iirc |
| 01:41.38 | break19 | aen`: i tried it before I said that :p |
| 01:41.47 | aen` | break19: worked for me |
| 01:42.01 | Jaxon | break19: thats definately easy |
| 01:42.37 | break19 | ah, gotta have the "level" of the poison in it |
| 01:42.48 | break19 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.00 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 01:43.02 | Antiarc | But that works for me |
| 01:43.09 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:43.30 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.36 | Antiarc | Nice. |
| 01:43.40 | Jaxon | Just replace the ## with the weapon numbers |
| 01:43.43 | Antiarc | I like that. |
| 01:43.45 | break19 | excellent, so what are they |
| 01:43.46 | break19 | lol |
| 01:43.52 | break19 | the wep #s I mean. |
| 01:44.04 | break19 | 17 is mh I assume.. and that means 18 is oh? |
| 01:44.11 | Jaxon | You can also use the item names if you don't change weapons much |
| 01:44.30 | break19 | jax, I want em to work without having to change macros if I *do* change weps. :) |
| 01:44.37 | break19 | I hate configuring and just want to play :) |
| 01:45.14 | break19 | 17 is oh |
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| 01:45.22 | trh | ckknight: you wrote tabletlib or? |
| 01:45.26 | hypetech | wow, my polymorph mod actually works. I'm excited ^_^ |
| 01:45.28 | Jaxon | http://www.wowwiki.com/InventorySlotId |
| 01:45.33 | break19 | and 16 is mh, yay |
| 01:45.56 | ckknight | trh: yep |
| 01:46.03 | trh | ckknight: any idea why repeated opening and closing of a window would cause the memory in ace2 to increase? http://ace.pastey.net/57102 (register is executed only once) |
| 01:47.04 | aen` | trh: intiliazing? |
| 01:47.18 | trh | aen`: nope.. after 10 minutes ingame still has the effect |
| 01:49.02 | ckknight | I should audit Tablet... |
| 01:49.06 | ckknight | perhaps when I get to an inn |
| 01:49.07 | Antiarc | Anyone have any ideas why actually booting WoW would take me approximately 3 years? |
| 01:49.16 | hypetech | hehe |
| 01:49.17 | trh | ckknight: with refresh commented out the effect is still there, but seems to be a bit lower |
| 01:49.24 | ie|Stiffe | wonder that too Antiarc :| |
| 01:49.45 | Antiarc | The exe sits in my task list for a good minute or two before the app appears |
| 01:50.05 | hypetech | :( |
| 01:50.24 | ckknight | Antiarc: *shrug* |
| 01:50.26 | Antiarc | Congrats, hypetech :D |
| 01:50.42 | trh | Antiarc: slow harddisk? =) |
| 01:50.47 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r40634 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_opt.lua Decursive.lua): |
| 01:50.47 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 01:50.47 | CIA-22 | - No longer uses return values of :ScheduleEvent and :ScheduleRepeatingEvent. |
| 01:50.47 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Mine was doing that earlier when I was having DNS issues. |
| 01:50.49 | hypetech | Antiarc: wanna look over my noob code? :p |
| 01:50.53 | trh | Antiarc: or framgented |
| 01:51.08 | Antiarc | hypetech: Heh, working on Threat right now |
| 01:51.19 | Antiarc | and the HD should be fine, SATA/150, recently defragged. |
| 01:51.32 | ie|Stiffe | only me who got awesome loadingscreen since patch? |
| 01:51.34 | ie|Stiffe | takes forever |
| 01:52.23 | hypetech | any brave mages out there want to try out this nifty polymorph timer and warning mod? only works for max rank poly right now |
| 01:52.54 | Cryect | Antiarc: its to spite you! |
| 01:53.27 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40635 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 01:53.27 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 01:53.27 | CIA-22 | - CPU time optimizations (eg. rounding function uses 35% less CPU time, changed some DrDamage functions to local and made local copies of a few Blizzard API functions) |
| 01:53.30 | hypetech | does ammo ever come on? I need get some info on being able to move a candybar bar |
| 01:53.51 | hypetech | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 01:54.10 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 24m 47s) #wowace (6h 24m 47s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 3h 5m 4s, last said: 'in aceoptions table'. |
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| 01:54.31 | Thrae | ~seen death |
| 01:54.32 | purl | death <Death@dyna167-222.acadiau.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 1426d 13h 20m 41s ago, saying: 'does anyone know why I get a java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException: NoClassDefFoundError with org/apache/naming/JndiPermission ??'. |
| 01:54.47 | trh | hypetech: shouldn't that be possible with SetCandyBarPoint( ? |
| 01:54.53 | Thrae | Phew, death hasn't been on IRC in years. |
| 01:55.03 | Thrae | Now I can relax! |
| 01:55.21 | trh | weird that death had a question about java... |
| 01:55.24 | trh | makes me shiver |
| 01:55.25 | hypetech | trh: I can hardcode it, I need to find out what my options are for being able to move it in game on the fly and remember the setting with the profile |
| 01:57.46 | hypetech | trh: I have self:SetCandyBarPoint("PolyTimerBar", "TOP", nil, nil, nil, 280) now, but that's static |
| 01:58.46 | trh | hypetech: only overviewed the api a while back :/ |
| 01:58.49 | Kalman| | hypetech: Check out the anchor code in HotCandy or DotDotDot. |
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| 01:59.10 | Kalman| | DDD stole it from HC, which I think stole it from BigWigs, but it should give you ideas. |
| 02:00.27 | hypetech | Kalman|: ya, I was looking around for some mods that used candybar, found questtimer, but I'll check out hotcandy |
| 02:00.49 | Funkeh` | ckknight stole my emokitteh pic and used it for hes avatar wtf |
| 02:01.06 | Funkeh` | i demand compensation! |
| 02:02.01 | ckknight | Funkeh`: didn't steal it from ou |
| 02:02.02 | ckknight | you* |
| 02:02.05 | trh | ckknight: 10000 calls of open and close = 0.35 MB in ace2 - just checked it with a for do loop ;) |
| 02:02.19 | Funkeh` | i linked it here a few days ago so someone did :p |
| 02:02.39 | ckknight | trh: that's not horrible, but not great |
| 02:02.53 | trh | ckknight: it gets horrible if the tablet actually displays anything |
| 02:02.54 | ckknight | it should be O(1), not O(n), if the strings are the same |
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| 02:08.19 | Antiarc | http://ace.pastey.net/57104 <-- _G.ThreatLoggerEditBox is nil when I load the UI |
| 02:08.21 | Antiarc | What am I doing wrong? |
| 02:10.24 | Funkeh` | ckknight: im not sure what kind of timeline they have on 2.2 but considering 2.1 PTR was up for nearly 2 months, its doubtfull 2.2 will be out in 2 months :p |
| 02:10.26 | hyperChipmunk | you're too suck |
| 02:10.44 | trh | Funkeh`: he stole it from canihazcheesburgerz ;) |
| 02:11.21 | ckknight | Funkeh`: whatever |
| 02:11.22 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Go choke on a [Feral Staff of Lashing] |
| 02:11.40 | Thorgard | Antiarc, it's the flux capacitor, you didn't prime it properly. |
| 02:12.54 | Funkeh` | fucking flax capacitor |
| 02:12.57 | Funkeh` | thats always it |
| 02:13.20 | Jaxon | ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGGAWATTZ |
| 02:13.45 | Funkeh` | Jigga? :p |
| 02:16.54 | KarlThePagan | Funkeh`, I'm sure in the 1990's you can pick up plutonium at the corner drugstore! |
| 02:17.14 | Funkeh` | heh |
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| 02:19.10 | aen` | ckknight: are the pitbull updates going to break the svs? |
| 02:19.30 | ckknight | ...yes |
| 02:20.03 | art3mis | ckknight: have you ever updated pitbull and not broken something? |
| 02:20.10 | ckknight | yes |
| 02:20.14 | ckknight | once, maybe twice |
| 02:20.34 | aen` | ckknight: what files should i backup then to be safe? |
| 02:21.02 | Funkeh` | it doesn't really rbeak anything |
| 02:21.02 | ckknight | aen`: you can probably just open your SV, and change "ABF" to "MetaLayout" |
| 02:21.04 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, i have an idea for a feature for BM2. Ctrl+clicking a name in chat to add it to the "To:" field in the Send Mail tab...http://ace.pastey.net/57105 |
| 02:21.04 | art3mis | did you make a commit note? |
| 02:21.06 | ckknight | and it should work |
| 02:21.07 | Funkeh` | mostly health text |
| 02:21.10 | Funkeh` | thats about it |
| 02:21.17 | ckknight | yep. |
| 02:21.20 | ckknight | the layout stuff |
| 02:21.24 | art3mis | heh |
| 02:21.30 | ckknight | not crucial |
| 02:23.30 | aen` | ["Layout-ABF"] = { |
| 02:23.30 | aen` | ["profiles"] = { |
| 02:23.30 | aen` | ["char/Paralysis - Cho'gall"] = { |
| 02:23.30 | aen` | ["player"] = { |
| 02:23.30 | aen` | ["classTextCustom"] = "", |
| 02:23.30 | aen` | ["comboTextStyle"] = "Standard", |
| 02:23.32 | aen` | ["portraitSide"] = "left", |
| 02:23.34 | aen` | ["powerTextStyle"] = "Absolute", |
| 02:23.36 | kenlyric | kaboom |
| 02:23.36 | aen` | ["repTextStyle"] = "Standard", |
| 02:23.38 | aen` | ["portraitHeight"] = 2, |
| 02:23.40 | aen` | that stuff/ |
| 02:23.47 | aen` | damn only thought i had 3 lines :p |
| 02:23.53 | bigzero | lol |
| 02:24.00 | aen` | sry all |
| 02:24.33 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, what do you think? |
| 02:26.25 | JoshBorke | kick him imo |
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| 02:28.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40636 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: |
| 02:28.36 | CIA-22 | PitBull_MetaLayout - err, change DB namespace to "MetaLayout" instead of "Layout-MetaLayout". |
| 02:28.36 | CIA-22 | - for people who want to save their old SVs, change "Layout-ABF" to "MetaLayout". |
| 02:29.23 | Funkeh` | you suck |
| 02:29.29 | ckknight | yea, I know. |
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| 02:31.49 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
| 02:32.15 | Funkeh` | nymbia especially |
| 02:32.16 | Jaxon | Are other layouts still broked? |
| 02:32.34 | ckknight | yes. |
| 02:33.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40637 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull - crap, typo |
| 02:33.04 | ckknight | Jaxon: and they're not coming back |
| 02:33.07 | ckknight | until later. |
| 02:33.17 | Jaxon | What needs to be done with them? |
| 02:33.32 | ckknight | Jaxon: the layout system as we knew it turned into the MetaLayout system |
| 02:33.37 | break19 | Jaxon: pretend you're cooking... NUKE EM |
| 02:33.38 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.38 | hyperChipmunk | This one's a simple request, compile/build your code or log in to the game to check for simple syntax errors before you commit. This will reduce "fixed typo" spam commits a great deal. |
| 02:33.39 | ckknight | a new Layout system will be built on top of this |
| 02:33.48 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: it wasn't a syntax error. |
| 02:33.53 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
| 02:34.03 | Jaxon | So if someone is motivated, they could update the other layouts to this "new" system and submit .diffs? |
| 02:34.10 | hyperChipmunk | you're a dirty dirty rulebreaker! |
| 02:34.40 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, scroll up |
| 02:34.47 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: make me |
| 02:34.58 | break19 | ooo fight fight |
| 02:35.02 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, I could, but I'd probably get kicked |
| 02:35.30 | bigzero | :-( |
| 02:35.43 | hyperChipmunk | do you really have your To: target in your chat window that often? i mean, it's usually one letter before it autocompletes |
| 02:35.57 | hyperChipmunk | and if the person's on, you can usually give it to 'em |
| 02:36.13 | bigzero | not unless the person is not in your guild/friends list |
| 02:36.43 | bigzero | i have a lot of people asking me to cod them stuff (pots, etc.) and sometimes typing their name is a real pain |
| 02:37.01 | hypetech | lol |
| 02:37.09 | break19 | I concur, actually. |
| 02:37.24 | hypetech | using obscure clickage is faster than typing a name that isn't more than 15 characters? |
| 02:37.24 | break19 | especially if said person's name has funky characters in it |
| 02:37.25 | hyperChipmunk | fiiiiiiiiiine |
| 02:37.35 | hypetech | break19: okay,now that's a good point |
| 02:38.14 | break19 | but, since I use playermenu, I usually just right click, get name, copy/paste.. bit of a kludge, but it works :) |
| 02:38.20 | Thrae | bigzero: Teknicolor + Teknicolor_tab |
| 02:38.37 | Thrae | Teknicolor_tab uses AceTab auto-complete functionality. |
| 02:38.55 | hyperChipmunk | prat does it too |
| 02:38.59 | bigzero | or 5 extra lines of line in a mod that is supposed to make sending mail easier :-) |
| 02:39.06 | bigzero | lines of code* |
| 02:39.10 | hypetech | lines of line indeed |
| 02:39.12 | hypetech | lol |
| 02:39.14 | hyperChipmunk | sending BULK mail easier |
| 02:39.15 | Thrae | Not everyone wants the super-hyper-borg of Prat ;) |
| 02:39.56 | break19 | I want an addon that copies player chat window settings AND locations between characters. I thought moving the chat-cache.txt file would do it, it didnt. I *did* have the correct number of windows, with the correct channels going to each. but they were not anywhere close to the same size/location as the original :/ |
| 02:40.17 | hyperChipmunk | that's in layout-cache |
| 02:40.25 | hyperChipmunk | with the rest of the window stuff |
| 02:40.34 | break19 | gah, so many damn *-cache.txt files, so little time |
| 02:40.40 | hypetech | lol. I acutally choose to not play my alts because half of the time I don't feel like re-customizing the mods :( |
| 02:41.05 | kenlyric | default profile! |
| 02:41.11 | aen` | ckknight: local MetaLayout_db = PitBull:AcquireDBNamespace("Layout-MetaLayout") will keep sv? (in metalayout.lua) |
| 02:41.29 | break19 | kenlyric: default profile doesnt exactly save chat window placement :) |
| 02:41.32 | ckknight | aen`: yea, but it'd be easier to edit your SVs |
| 02:42.03 | kenlyric | break19: i know. I was responding to hypetech. chat windows are the one exception. |
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| 02:42.43 | break19 | ckknight: easier for *you* not easier for the masses using the addon :p |
| 02:43.02 | ckknight | meh. |
| 02:45.50 | hypetech | bah, when I load PaintChips and CandyBar into my libs directory for my mod, CandyBar complains that PaintChips is missing, but when I install CandyBar normally, outside of my mod directory it works fine :( |
| 02:46.05 | Jaxon | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110534879&sid=1 |
| 02:46.06 | Jaxon | ... |
| 02:46.09 | break19 | and why do my party frames resize when I try to resize partypets? maybe I dont WANT them to be the same scale... :p |
| 02:48.10 | hypetech | Jaxon: hahaha |
| 02:48.19 | break19 | Jaxon: lmao |
| 02:48.37 | break19 | altho, the original sounds eerily similar to something that happened to my wife's druid.. |
| 02:48.39 | KarlThePagan | Jaxon, ick |
| 02:48.51 | break19 | a few weeks ago, she logged in to find her epic mount missing |
| 02:48.52 | Jaxon | I'm not that retarded, I just found the thread. |
| 02:48.56 | break19 | as well as the training for said mount |
| 02:49.01 | KarlThePagan | lol he got owned |
| 02:49.21 | break19 | epic flight mount, that is |
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| 02:50.56 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40638 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 02:50.56 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 02:50.56 | CIA-22 | - Added ctrl-click on player name links to fill the To: field. Contributed by bigzero. |
| 02:51.13 | hyperChipmunk | since you seem to know so much about SetItemRef, maybe you could use those powers to get me mouseover tooltips in BMI |
| 02:51.25 | hyperChipmunk | s/tooltips/item tooltips/ |
| 02:52.01 | break19 | she never got it back |
| 02:52.23 | KarlThePagan | break19, how did it happen? unlearned flying? |
| 02:52.31 | break19 | they said, on the phone, "ma'am, we have no record of you having the epic flight mount" |
| 02:52.49 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, hmmm, i'll look into it |
| 02:52.54 | aen` | im still worried about this SV problem |
| 02:53.25 | break19 | KarlThePagan: no idea, she was also missing about 800gold, and all her other mounts and training for em |
| 02:53.34 | KarlThePagan | woah |
| 02:53.35 | CIA-22 | 03aznamir * r40639 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 02:53.35 | CIA-22 | PallyPower: |
| 02:53.35 | CIA-22 | - corrected GetBuffExpiration function to use cached player list and account lesser buffs |
| 02:53.50 | break19 | KarlThePagan: ya. she and I both think it was a database hiccup on their server |
| 02:54.07 | break19 | luckily, they *did* have records of her gold, on backup, but not her mounts |
| 02:54.14 | KarlThePagan | wtf lame |
| 02:54.36 | break19 | she was only about to get back to regular flying mount training level, since she's a druid with flight form, which grants the flying-riding skill. |
| 02:55.13 | break19 | she had every mount from every alliance faction.. she's a collector. heh |
| 02:55.18 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, wait, what exactly do you mean? I have tooltips on mouse-over already |
| 02:55.28 | hyperChipmunk | on the BMI frame? |
| 02:55.29 | break19 | needless to say, she cried for 2 days |
| 02:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | break19: they're really cheap, yo |
| 02:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | buy 'em over again |
| 02:55.54 | KarlThePagan | lol wut |
| 02:55.56 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, ooo, i don't use that...let me see |
| 02:56.07 | break19 | not the epics, not when you're alt just hit 70 and was workin for a flyin mount of her own. |
| 02:56.16 | break19 | s/you're/your |
| 02:56.35 | hyperChipmunk | they're like 72g no? |
| 02:56.39 | KarlThePagan | no |
| 02:56.49 | break19 | hyperChipmunk: she had 900g to her name, she logged in to have 100g |
| 02:56.58 | hyperChipmunk | you said she got that back though |
| 02:57.00 | break19 | and no, they're 90. |
| 02:57.06 | KarlThePagan | just regular flying |
| 02:57.11 | break19 | hyperChipmunk: took 3 days to get it back, constantly on the phone with em |
| 02:57.14 | Cryect | she lost her epic flight training though |
| 02:57.27 | hyperChipmunk | well that's different |
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| 04:26.10 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | Revert to PitBull r39408 if you observe crashes (this is until WoW 2.1.2 releases) |
| 04:26.15 | Funkeh` | since it will be true dependancies |
| 04:26.17 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` i agree |
| 04:27.24 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` only problem is trying to update all 700+ addons |
| 04:27.44 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: why? nothing is actually using the dependancies field in the xml file atm |
| 04:28.05 | Funkeh` | (apart from WAU) |
| 04:28.16 | pastamancer | if it's optional, don't embed it, wtf |
| 04:28.38 | Funkeh` | pastamancer: i suppose its jsut to make some addons fancier |
| 04:28.50 | Funkeh` | theres several addons that embed non-dependancies |
| 04:29.23 | sylvanaar | thats wierd |
| 04:29.43 | Funkeh` | and the fact i jsut downloaded 4 addons (metrognome, waterfall, parser1 & glory) from WAU proves it |
| 04:29.52 | Funkeh` | means the addons are working fine without those libraries |
| 04:30.03 | pastamancer | if it's imporant enough to embed, I say leave it as a hard dependency for the noext feed |
| 04:30.05 | sylvanaar | or you have them disableds |
| 04:30.29 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: no ;) |
| 04:30.43 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40652 10BigWigs/Hyjal/ (Anetheron.lua Winterchill.lua): |
| 04:30.43 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 04:30.43 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.30 | Funkeh` | pastamancer: you don't agree to have dependancies read from a X-Dependancies field instead of X-Embeds? |
| 04:32.08 | Funkeh` | i don't think theres much more choice, i doubt addons will stop embedding optonal dependancies |
| 04:32.32 | pastamancer | downloading normal or noext should get you the same thing |
| 04:33.14 | Funkeh` | but ti doesn't :p |
| 04:33.32 | sylvanaar | you know - as long as those addons dont list those things as optdeps, they shouldnt even load |
| 04:33.47 | sylvanaar | unless they are used |
| 04:33.54 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40653 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CoilfangReservoir/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: |
| 04:33.54 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 04:33.54 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.31 | Funkeh` | well you can debate it but like i said, i don't think it will change |
| 04:34.38 | sylvanaar | but, there is always ren *.toc .svn |
| 04:35.27 | sylvanaar | i dunno - lets see how it plays out |
| 04:35.34 | Funkeh` | im just thinking changing the script to read a different toc field surely can't be that hard? |
| 04:37.00 | sylvanaar | well, so far this functionality hasnt been used - so lets feed it to the wolves |
| 04:37.07 | pastamancer | Hard? No. Right? Also, no. |
| 04:37.43 | Funkeh` | pastamancer well thats debatable also, i think it makes it more clear what the addon actually needs(x-dependancies) and what the addon embeds (x-embeds) |
| 04:37.59 | Funkeh` | producing a better toc file |
| 04:38.40 | pastamancer | I'm not convinced that addons should be embedding stuff they don't "depend" upon |
| 04:39.08 | Funkeh` | im not going to try to convince you because thats out of my control, im just looking for the simplest route |
| 04:39.21 | sylvanaar | actually, pastamancer - how can i convince you to put a file in the zip which has the url that you downloaded it from in it |
| 04:39.33 | Antiarc | I think I may have just solved pet threat. |
| 04:39.41 | Antiarc | Basically, the AP threshold floats. |
| 04:40.00 | Antiarc | Next kill levels my boar, so we'll see |
| 04:40.22 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: that's the downloader's job |
| 04:40.37 | Funkeh` | pastamancer, i just don't think people are going to suddenly change their minds and stop doing it |
| 04:41.03 | sylvanaar | pastamancer - yeah, but there are some things that need standardization |
| 04:43.17 | Antiarc | Pet leveled and my numbers are still dead-on |
| 04:43.44 | Funkeh` | nice Antiarc |
| 04:44.08 | Antiarc | It's properly indicating boar charge+growl threat now! :O |
| 04:44.10 | Funkeh` | now hopefully you can spend more time on raid issues! :p |
| 04:44.27 | Antiarc | Heh, this is a part of solving shadow priest threat, too |
| 04:44.37 | Funkeh` | pets?! |
| 04:44.38 | Jaxon | How much of Growl threat is affected by RAP? |
| 04:45.20 | Funkeh` | pastamancer, can i convince you to change reading to such a field? |
| 04:46.41 | Antiarc | I suspect that pets are getting 5.7 threat over a sliding threshold |
| 04:46.55 | Antiarc | Rather than 5.7 over the post-60 threshold that KTM calculates |
| 04:48.26 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` don't spend all your change request credits up front, there may be a better solution noone has thought of yet |
| 04:50.17 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, ping |
| 04:51.53 | sylvanaar | optdeps.xml !!! |
| 04:52.17 | Funkeh` | how is that better |
| 04:52.22 | sylvanaar | its funny |
| 04:52.22 | Funkeh` | wher e will it read it from |
| 04:52.30 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:52.30 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: ow |
| 04:52.46 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, i think i got it working...the mouse-over tooltip |
| 04:52.50 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, http://ace.pastey.net/57109 |
| 04:52.52 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 04:53.06 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, add that to line 284ish |
| 04:53.34 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 04:53.36 | hyperChipmunk | doing so |
| 04:53.42 | bigzero | i couldn't figure out how to attach it to the mouse cursor though, so I attached it to InboxFrame |
| 04:54.00 | bigzero | also, still have to test it with items that have COD on them |
| 04:54.14 | hyperChipmunk | np, i can take care of all that |
| 04:54.41 | hyperChipmunk | i'll tweak it from here np |
| 04:54.46 | bigzero | kk |
| 04:54.57 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/57110 <-- theoretical recycling lib |
| 04:56.18 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40654 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 04:56.18 | CIA-22 | RatingBuster: |
| 04:56.18 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.26 | Funkeh` | fucking contageous bullshit |
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| 04:58.07 | ckknight | actually, http://ace.pastey.net/57112 |
| 04:58.24 | ckknight | for debug stuff |
| 04:58.39 | ckknight | it basically is a namespaced compost that is made to be as fast as possible |
| 04:58.54 | ckknight | only do debugging if specifically requested |
| 04:59.30 | ckknight | and keep track of where tables are created when debugging is on |
| 04:59.33 | ckknight | which is very helpful |
| 04:59.56 | ckknight | not sure what I want to do with the code. |
| 05:00.17 | Antiarc | Eeee. |
| 05:00.25 | Antiarc | I think hunter pets are fixed. |
| 05:00.32 | Antiarc | Still need to validate against lock pets |
| 05:00.35 | Antiarc | But still. |
| 05:00.36 | Antiarc | Eeee. |
| 05:00.44 | Funkeh` | fuck them man get onto priests |
| 05:01.05 | Funkeh` | the _real_ class |
| 05:01.21 | hyperChipmunk | CardTableLib |
| 05:01.38 | ckknight | gonna side with Funkeh` on this one |
| 05:01.39 | Funkeh` | CompostLib2LOL |
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| 05:01.44 | ckknight | AceRecycle-2.0 |
| 05:01.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:01.52 | Antiarc | http://i19.tinypic.com/4m2gefb.jpg |
| 05:02.07 | Antiarc | On to priesteses. |
| 05:02.30 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:02.46 | Funkeh` | bacon agrees |
| 05:02.51 | ckknight | hehe, bacon |
| 05:02.55 | Wobwork | I have noticed (don't know if it's been dealt with) that as a hunter I've often overshot my pet's aggro by quite a bit without pulling aggro |
| 05:02.57 | sylvanaar | make a modular development tool framework - log, debug, failure analysys, data collection, unit testing, profiling |
| 05:03.04 | Wobwork | This was a few days ago |
| 05:03.13 | Antiarc | Wobwork: That's what that screenshot is showing that I just fixed. |
| 05:03.16 | Wobwork | oh man, unit testing =) |
| 05:03.24 | Wobwork | Antiarc: Hurrah! |
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| 05:03.34 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40655 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 05:03.34 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 05:03.34 | CIA-22 | - Moar optimization, a few bugfixes (All thanks to my friend, luac) |
| 05:03.34 | Aenslaed | hrm |
| 05:03.36 | ckknight | Antiarc: is the left KTM? |
| 05:03.46 | Aenslaed | looks like ora is causing a critical error on the MT window changes |
| 05:03.48 | ckknight | Gagorian: luac ftw! |
| 05:04.05 | Gagorian | yeah it's amazing, I checked through all GETGLOBAL |
| 05:04.17 | Funkeh` | Aenslaed: highly doubtfull as it was fine in my raid tonight |
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| 05:06.30 | Aenslaed | i've been getting it over and over since 2.1.2 whenever the MT windows are updated. Doesn't happen all the time, but only happens if it is that |
| 05:07.14 | Funkeh` | ptr? |
| 05:07.39 | Funkeh` | its working on 2.1.1 |
| 05:07.47 | aen` | haha, kid just got kicked out of my guild for using tab completion too much |
| 05:07.48 | Aenslaed | err, whatever the current version is |
| 05:07.57 | Aenslaed | isn't it 2.1.2? |
| 05:08.04 | Funkeh` | no |
| 05:08.07 | ckknight | no, aen` |
| 05:08.09 | ckknight | Aenslaed* |
| 05:08.10 | kbh | tab completion? |
| 05:08.19 | Funkeh` | ckknight: tab completion > you |
| 05:08.20 | Aenslaed | well,2.1.1 then! |
| 05:08.46 | aen` | kbh: when u type the first few letters of someones name then hit tab to complete it to talk like i used your name |
| 05:09.06 | kbh | ah |
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| 05:19.10 | Aenslaed | wth, did it again |
| 05:19.54 | Gagorian | Are you sure it isn't related to party/raid changes and unitframes? |
| 05:20.55 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: ping |
| 05:21.19 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: whotothewhatnow? |
| 05:21.36 | NimbleRabit | I need to know if this is a known bug or if it's just me |
| 05:21.48 | NimbleRabit | when I change my settings so shift+right click brings up the loot box instead of auto looting |
| 05:21.52 | NimbleRabit | the box won't show up using xloot |
| 05:22.01 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: It's up to date, right? >.> |
| 05:22.26 | NimbleRabit | not....completel... |
| 05:22.28 | NimbleRabit | T_T |
| 05:22.35 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: 'Cause I thought I fixed that one or two revs ago <.< |
| 05:22.40 | NimbleRabit | my bad lol |
| 05:22.45 | NimbleRabit | I forgot I hadn't updated in a few weeks |
| 05:22.50 | Xuerian | lol |
| 05:22.51 | Xuerian | no worries |
| 05:24.46 | NimbleRabit | I've been just autolooting everything for at least a week |
| 05:24.48 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 05:26.13 | Xuerian | heheh. |
| 05:26.29 | Xuerian | Blizzard reduced the code needed for that function from 20 lines to 1 |
| 05:26.34 | Xuerian | And thus made the 20 lines invalid |
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| 05:29.00 | NimbleRabit | ahh |
| 05:29.17 | NimbleRabit | yeah I had to make auto loot the normal function |
| 05:29.21 | NimbleRabit | for some pickpocket macro action |
| 05:30.00 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 05:31.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40656 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - add more positions for texts/icons on the portrait. |
| 05:32.51 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40657 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 05:32.51 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:32.51 | CIA-22 | - Mouseover item tooltips in the inbox tablet. Thanks again to bigzero |
| 05:33.05 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: give that a shot >8) |
| 05:34.01 | Lywellyn | Yar. |
| 05:34.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40658 10PitBull/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: PitBull_HealthBar - add option to disable the health bar. |
| 05:34.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40659 10PitBull/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: PitBull_HealthBar - forgot to add a field in the DB. |
| 05:40.16 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40660 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 05:40.16 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:40.16 | CIA-22 | - pixel OCD >8P |
| 05:40.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's gotta be a real medical disorder |
| 05:40.44 | Jaxon | Is there a /userandom for macros? |
| 05:40.50 | hyperChipmunk | single pixel syndrome |
| 05:40.57 | hyperChipmunk | just use /castrandom with an item |
| 05:41.10 | Jaxon | Thanks |
| 05:43.57 | Gagorian | sedatedChipmunk *poke* |
| 05:44.06 | sedatedChipmunk | D8< |
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| 05:44.10 | sedatedChipmunk | whuaaaah |
| 05:44.40 | sedatedChipmunk | plz make it quick |
| 05:44.44 | sedatedChipmunk | teh munk is tired |
| 05:44.46 | Gagorian | I see global namespace junk coming from BulkMail! |
| 05:45.00 | Gagorian | for example suffix |
| 05:45.02 | sedatedChipmunk | bite me |
| 05:45.09 | sedatedChipmunk | that ought to be local |
| 05:45.15 | Gagorian | well it isn't ;) |
| 05:45.19 | sedatedChipmunk | ah |
| 05:45.22 | sedatedChipmunk | was for debugging prolly |
| 05:46.01 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40661 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 05:46.01 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 05:46.01 | CIA-22 | - suffix changed to be local; was global for easy debugging |
| 05:46.01 | sedatedChipmunk | yea |
| 05:46.05 | Gagorian | also rulesCacheDest function |
| 05:46.13 | Gagorian | and 'this' |
| 05:46.16 | sedatedChipmunk | !$@#$ |
| 05:46.21 | sedatedChipmunk | this is always global |
| 05:46.25 | sedatedChipmunk | oh |
| 05:46.30 | sedatedChipmunk | fine |
| 05:46.33 | sedatedChipmunk | _G.this? |
| 05:46.40 | Gagorian | this = SendMailMailButton |
| 05:46.54 | Gagorian | tssk |
| 05:47.10 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, cuz acehook don't take care of that =P |
| 05:47.17 | sedatedChipmunk | that's been there for like a year |
| 05:47.20 | sedatedChipmunk | i was young and foolish |
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| 05:49.26 | Gagorian | And while we're at the subject some table recycling would probably be appropriate :p |
| 05:51.58 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm too dumb for that |
| 05:52.03 | sedatedChipmunk | so go stick your head in a pig |
| 05:52.22 | Gagorian | :( |
| 05:53.11 | Gagorian | I would've taught you but now.. GO SLEEP IN YOUR MOMMYS BED KK THX. |
| 05:53.13 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40662 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 05:53.13 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 05:53.13 | CIA-22 | - changed global vars to _G lookups; if stuff breaks, Gagorian has volunteered to fix it, so pester him |
| 05:54.07 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40663 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 05:54.07 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:54.07 | CIA-22 | - changed global vars to _G lookups; if stuff breaks, Gagorian has volunteered to fix it, so pester him |
| 05:54.34 | sedatedChipmunk | Gagorian: totally untested; be ready for some whinage |
| 05:55.14 | Gagorian | Well, I dunno wtf you did but I'm pretty sure it's wrong! |
| 05:56.15 | sedatedChipmunk | can i go to bed now? |
| 05:56.49 | Gagorian | Yes. And I hope you have nightmares about garbagecollected tables. |
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| 05:57.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I know I do. |
| 05:57.36 | sedatedChipmunk | or maybe you could be constructive and fix one or two for me, and I'll take care of the rest by your example when I wake up |
| 05:57.53 | Gagorian | I can tomorrow, I need to sleep as well now |
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| 06:01.38 | Lywellyn | Such love in the #wowace channel. :) |
| 06:02.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40664 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - restructure DB slightly so that it's more human-readable (in preparation for user-created layouts) |
| 06:02.59 | ckknight | lol, Lywellyn |
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| 06:09.52 | Neebler | user created layouts eh? PitBull is going Discord UnitFrame style |
| 06:10.32 | NightHawkTheSane | except hopefully with less suck |
| 06:10.41 | ckknight | yes, Neebler |
| 06:10.48 | Neebler | pssh Discord sucked in no way |
| 06:10.54 | ckknight | it was bloated |
| 06:10.57 | ckknight | it's config was awesome. |
| 06:10.58 | Neebler | other than that |
| 06:11.07 | ckknight | trying to figure out how to do it effectively |
| 06:11.17 | ckknight | basically, a layout covers a single unit frame |
| 06:11.32 | ckknight | but I want a layout to be able to look different depending on the kind of frame |
| 06:11.46 | ckknight | e.g. if it's target, then portrait is on the right side instead of left |
| 06:11.59 | ckknight | if it's player or target, then health text = "Informational" instead of "Smart" |
| 06:13.22 | Kaelten | when you create a ScrollFrame using CreateFrame does it automatically have a ScrollChild element? |
| 06:13.38 | ckknight | no |
| 06:13.41 | ckknight | you have to :SetScrollChild |
| 06:14.04 | TecnoBrat | Anyone have ArenaPointer? |
| 06:14.09 | Kaelten | I tried to do a CreateFrame(ScrollChild) and it didn't seem to work |
| 06:14.10 | TecnoBrat | and is it showing points for you? |
| 06:14.27 | ckknight | Kaelten: wait, what? |
| 06:14.38 | ckknight | ScrollChild isn't a frame type, Kaelten |
| 06:14.40 | Jaxon | Yes, it does, TecnoBrat |
| 06:14.55 | Kaelten | ckknight: its a Tag in the xml |
| 06:14.57 | TecnoBrat | wtf ... why isnt it showing for me ... |
| 06:15.04 | ckknight | Kaelten: right, doesn't mean it's a frame type. |
| 06:15.05 | Kaelten | so thats why I assumed it was a frame type |
| 06:15.12 | TecnoBrat | Jaxon, so it shows like "Rating: 1400 (332)" or whatever |
| 06:15.13 | ckknight | Kaelten: Tablet uses scroll frames, may want to take a look at it. |
| 06:15.17 | Jaxon | Yeah. |
| 06:15.21 | Kaelten | and SetScrollchild has no documentation |
| 06:15.24 | TecnoBrat | you ingame right now? |
| 06:15.35 | Kaelten | ckknight: it uses it for display I'm creating a scrolling editbox |
| 06:15.37 | TecnoBrat | cause mine broke randomly like 2 weeks ago |
| 06:16.02 | Kaelten | so SetSCrollFrame would take the EditBox? |
| 06:16.03 | ckknight | Kaelten: I still recommend looking at Tablet |
| 06:16.11 | ckknight | yea, I think so |
| 06:16.29 | Neebler | ckknight: I think it would be a neat idea to add 3D moving elements to unitframe customization (IE: the cartographer waypoints arrow) |
| 06:16.30 | Jaxon | TecnoBrat: yup, 1560 (311) for 2v2. |
| 06:16.41 | TecnoBrat | updated? |
| 06:16.43 | NimbleRabit | is there a way to make prat playernames show something only if it has spaces around it? |
| 06:16.45 | ckknight | Neebler: example? |
| 06:16.47 | NimbleRabit | like...isn't part of another word |
| 06:17.14 | Neebler | like the UnitFrame is rectangle right, so make it a 3d square, and have it tilt depending on how much you're hurt, or some other event |
| 06:17.27 | ckknight | Neebler: oh, thats' impossible |
| 06:17.30 | ckknight | that's* |
| 06:17.42 | ckknight | Neebler: Cartographer's waypoint arrow is actually 2d made to look 3d |
| 06:18.02 | Kaelten | hrm should it have the scroll frame as its parent too? |
| 06:18.53 | Neebler | but there are plenty of 3d addons out there that I've played. 3d mazes and mario kart |
| 06:19.17 | Neebler | that type of 3d realism would look neat in say for example a bar addon, where each button is 3d and bobbles around like it's floating in water, but with the spell texture wrapped around it |
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| 06:20.15 | Kaelten | eb = CreateFrame("EditBox", nil, sf) |
| 06:20.16 | Kaelten | sf:SetScrollChild(eb) |
| 06:20.21 | Kaelten | my wow doesn't like that code |
| 06:20.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Neebler: even if it were possible, that kind of eye candy would have to waste so much proccessing time. >< |
| 06:20.58 | Neebler | ask Cryect about that NightHawk, he has a 3D librarie |
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| 06:26.52 | Kaelten | for some reason creating an editbox is locking out all keys in wow |
| 06:26.54 | Kaelten | weird |
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| 06:28.33 | ckknight | Kaelten: there's a way to make it so you can unfocus and such |
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| 06:29.30 | Kaelten | ah, I think it was autofocus defailting to true |
| 06:29.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40665 10PitBull/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: PitBull_HealthBar - fix bug for pets. |
| 06:30.16 | ckknight | yep |
| 06:30.34 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Curious: Pitbull: what's the thing that appears on my mana bar when I'm casting? |
| 06:30.56 | ckknight | spark |
| 06:31.02 | Jaxon | The five second timer? |
| 06:31.37 | TecnoBrat | Aparantly, I need to learn to Load on Demand |
| 06:31.37 | TecnoBrat | ArenaPointer was just not loading |
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| 06:37.37 | Elkano | one of the best keylogger posts ever ^^ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110416506&sid=1 |
| 06:38.26 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40666 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:38.26 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 06:38.26 | CIA-22 | -- 30616 Bundle of Bloodthistle, 31360 Unfinished Headpiece, 30639 Blood Elf disguise, 32467 Vim'gol's Grimoire |
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| 06:43.08 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar you there? |
| 06:44.26 | ckknight | lol, Elkano |
| 06:44.48 | ckknight | why the fuck does forums.worldofwarcraft.com never remember to keep me logged in? |
| 06:44.51 | ckknight | goddammit |
| 06:46.08 | Fisker- | because it's not allowing you to |
| 06:46.15 | Fisker- | for security reasons |
| 06:46.21 | art3mis | its not that it wont remember ckk |
| 06:46.30 | art3mis | it's hinting at something |
| 06:46.55 | Laricwork | is 2.1.2 coming today? |
| 06:47.56 | Fisker- | should be |
| 06:48.21 | Iceroth | so what was the conditional macro performance problem thing? |
| 06:48.31 | art3mis | ride the walrus! |
| 06:49.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ill ride YOUR walrus |
| 06:49.23 | Fisker- | fps drop because blizzard was consulted by kenco? |
| 06:49.30 | omega_ | Iceroth: it scanned all the items in your bank and bags |
| 06:49.47 | Iceroth | uh.. and that's coming in 2.1.2? |
| 06:49.49 | NightHawkTheSane | It also polled to make sure you were still the same class as when you logged in. |
| 06:52.34 | sylvanaar | Fisker- yeah |
| 06:52.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh man. I hit one of my conditional macros in Zangarmarsh today, and Vek'lor came up and headbutted me. |
| 06:54.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40667 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): PitBull - rearrange some internals |
| 06:54.45 | ckknight | weird, ZealotOnAStick, thought that only happened in Nagrand |
| 06:56.09 | ZealotOnAStick | I know! I was so like, "what the hell?!" |
| 06:56.19 | Fisker- | sylvanaar does WAU check for updates during start or frequently during the programs lifetime? |
| 06:56.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Tabula Rasa looks like it might be fun. Interesting premise, cool looking toys in there, if they can make the basic game not suck. |
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| 06:56.51 | Xuerian | I hope they pull it off |
| 06:57.08 | Xuerian | I can't stand wow in doses larger than 20 minutes. |
| 06:57.40 | Xuerian | Or PotBS or SOMETHING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD |
| 06:57.47 | Iceroth | i have my hops in WAR |
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| 06:58.04 | ZealotOnAStick | I knew it was sort of a sci-fi futuristic planet-bound MMO . . . which is a bit distressing, I want something to succeed and improve Earth & Beyond (EVE doesn't cut it by far) . . . |
| 06:58.09 | sylvanaar | Fisker, it does not check on its own usually. you have to tell it to |
| 06:58.24 | ZealotOnAStick | But when I saw that you get battle-tech like mecha . . . ok, you got my attention for a bit. |
| 06:58.35 | Xuerian | Amen :p |
| 06:58.55 | sylvanaar | Xuerian niether can I - i log in, then log right back out |
| 06:59.26 | Xuerian | Yet... I'm still subscribed |
| 06:59.28 | Xuerian | >_o |
| 06:59.36 | sylvanaar | i am too until august |
| 07:00.01 | sylvanaar | Fisker- why? |
| 07:00.02 | Xuerian | What's happening in august? |
| 07:00.18 | sylvanaar | my sub ends - im paid through then |
| 07:01.01 | Xuerian | ahh |
| 07:01.49 | Fisker- | sylvanaar was thinking about integrating it with addon updates or something like that |
| 07:01.58 | Fisker- | because for me it doesn't check until i restart the program |
| 07:02.05 | Fisker- | and i do that like once a month :P |
| 07:06.05 | yac_oob | *megayawn* |
| 07:06.23 | sylvanaar | Fisker- running an old copy? |
| 07:06.38 | Fisker- | 1.8.47 i think |
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| 07:06.52 | P-Stars|Messaya | hello |
| 07:07.16 | sylvanaar | it checks - tell me why you think it doesnt? press F10 |
| 07:07.40 | kergoth | Anyone famiiar with MessageFrame's? |
| 07:08.47 | Fisker- | fucking birds |
| 07:08.48 | Fisker- | brb |
| 07:09.15 | Fisker- | Doesn't say version check when i press F10 |
| 07:09.20 | sylvanaar | Fisker- oh right - i see what you ask asking |
| 07:09.30 | Fisker- | and for some reason it can't even see 1.8.48 |
| 07:09.31 | Fisker- | ok |
| 07:09.41 | sylvanaar | yeah, only at startup |
| 07:09.43 | Punkie` | kergoth: depends what you need doing |
| 07:09.57 | kergoth | i'm wondering why messages go outside the dimensions of the frame. |
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| 07:10.18 | P-Stars|Messaya | someone got ClearFont? |
| 07:10.22 | Fisker- | i so much hate the birds in skettis :( |
| 07:10.25 | Punkie` | because the frame is only their parent, not their boundries |
| 07:10.36 | Fisker- | why do they need hamstring? :/ |
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| 07:10.50 | Kirkburn | Join spam >< |
| 07:11.01 | Kirkburn | P-Stars|Messaya, yes, yes I do |
| 07:11.10 | Punkie` | omg, srsy? |
| 07:11.19 | Kirkburn | Nah, not rly :P |
| 07:11.36 | P-Stars|Messaya | do you have an idea how i can access the options menu in ClearFont? i cant find the command for |
| 07:11.45 | Fisker- | 1.8.48 is pretty sweet btw sylvanaar :o |
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| 07:11.53 | Boubouille | P-Stars|Messaya : /clearfont ? :( |
| 07:11.58 | Boubouille | and if you want a menu, I think you'll need fubar |
| 07:12.01 | Kirkburn | I actually hate myself, and stab myself whenever I see a compiter running ClearFont. *That's* how dedicated I am to my hatred. |
| 07:12.03 | Fisker- | besides for broken file links and weird font |
| 07:12.15 | Boubouille | and seriously, clearfont sucks |
| 07:12.16 | Kirkburn | (Or a computer.) |
| 07:12.24 | ckknight | Kirkburn: but why? |
| 07:12.32 | Boubouille | the code look like it's from another planet |
| 07:12.36 | Boubouille | something like venus, mars, or vista |
| 07:12.38 | Punkie` | kergoth: set a width to the fontstring itself |
| 07:12.41 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 07:12.46 | ckknight | Boubouille: yea, some of it is mine :-P |
| 07:12.48 | P-Stars|Messaya | hm well are there any other existing font-change addons with Ace? |
| 07:12.56 | sylvanaar | Fisker- broken file links? |
| 07:13.01 | Kirkburn | Some of it I keep asking ckknight to look at, too :P |
| 07:13.04 | Punkie` | I think I know the problem |
| 07:13.11 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:13.12 | Punkie` | Messaya: download ClearFont2 |
| 07:13.18 | Punkie` | not ClearFont |
| 07:13.21 | Fisker- | Saving log to 'file:///E:/Program Files/World of Warcraft/WAU/waulog.txt' |
| 07:13.24 | Punkie` | if you want menu options |
| 07:13.25 | kergoth | Punkie`, i mean line wise. you can addmessage 5 times for example and have the last one or two be beyond the height of the messageframe |
| 07:13.25 | Fisker- | will not work because of space |
| 07:13.34 | P-Stars|Messaya | i tought i downloaded cf2 |
| 07:13.35 | kergoth | Punkie`, was just wondering why that was |
| 07:13.39 | P-Stars|Messaya | w8 |
| 07:13.45 | Boubouille | make you upgrade to be able to run something, see, it's windows vista everywhere ! |
| 07:13.45 | sylvanaar | Fisker- ohz |
| 07:14.05 | Kirkburn | P-Stars|Messaya, everyone, especially Boubouille, is being silly. ClearFont is awesome :) They all know it, it's just their jealousy. |
| 07:14.05 | sylvanaar | Fisker- you can open it from the menu anyways |
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| 07:14.15 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:14.15 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.24 | Fisker- | i don't use it so i don't care anyways |
| 07:14.31 | Iceroth | the performance hit vista gives me is ridiculous.. same settings with xp, i haven't gone below 40fps in shattrath, with vista, it's around 20 >.< |
| 07:14.34 | Boubouille | Clearfont is awesome indeed |
| 07:14.36 | Boubouille | Kirkburn isnt. |
| 07:14.43 | Kirkburn | Iceroth, that's your drivers talking |
| 07:14.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn's mom is awesome. |
| 07:14.50 | Fisker- | i had a FPS increase when i changed to vista |
| 07:14.51 | Kirkburn | Vista should have a tiny tiny effect |
| 07:14.55 | P-Stars|Messaya | ah, i downloaded the wrong one, maybe the cf2 will work better |
| 07:15.01 | Iceroth | well let nvidia burn in hell with their drivers |
| 07:15.02 | Kirkburn | P-Stars|Messaya, it will indeed |
| 07:15.03 | Boubouille | actually |
| 07:15.09 | Kirkburn | Iceroth, what drivers are you using? |
| 07:15.12 | Boubouille | I'm probably gonna do an addon highlight on clearfont 2 |
| 07:15.20 | Boubouille | and add "kirkburn sucks" somewhere |
| 07:15.24 | Iceroth | latest from nvidia.com, whatever it was |
| 07:15.26 | Kirkburn | You're too kind |
| 07:15.53 | sylvanaar | Fisker- i was just screwing around with some stuff, and funkeh wanted me to add support for deleting modules.xml so i just checked in all my changes |
| 07:15.53 | Punkie` | Boubouille: Do an addon highlight of my addon! I have only really made like 2 :( |
| 07:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | "Kirkburn Sucks, or: Why I learned to stop worrying and love ClearFont2." |
| 07:16.18 | Kirkburn | The forums of nvnews.net are a good place to find (beta) driver updates |
| 07:16.34 | Boubouille | Punkie` : which one ! which one ! |
| 07:16.45 | Punkie` | ooh ooh! http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12476&page=3! |
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| 07:17.07 | Fisker- | sylvanaar i.e. new version up for grabs or what? |
| 07:17.08 | Boubouille | but it's ugly. |
| 07:17.08 | Boubouille | :( |
| 07:17.10 | Kirkburn | Punkie`, I can only say I've made two at a complete stretch ... if I pretend ClearFont and ClearFont2 are somehow not the same :P |
| 07:17.13 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40668 10OneView/TotalFactionGold/OneView/OneView.lua: OneView: Align the total money and separator slash a little nicer |
| 07:17.31 | Punkie` | Boubouill: But i've had nothing but positive feedback from high end raiders! |
| 07:17.57 | NightHawkTheSane | psh, high end raiders are all noobs anyway |
| 07:17.59 | Punkie` | Kirkburn: Hehe, I just use ClearFont :) |
| 07:17.59 | sylvanaar | Fisker- yeah - i just didnt trigger the nag |
| 07:18.04 | Boubouille | Nobody cares about high end raiders, that's what Tigole said |
| 07:18.06 | Boubouille | and Tigole is nice |
| 07:18.48 | Punkie` | Tigole gets chased by children waving sticks at him :( |
| 07:18.56 | sylvanaar | whats wrong with CF2? |
| 07:18.56 | Kirkburn | Shamans? |
| 07:20.25 | Kirkburn | Everything! Everything in the world ever! And inifinity plus one! |
| 07:20.25 | Punkie` | Who said anything was wrong with it? |
| 07:20.25 | Boubouille | Punkie` : what does the mod do basically ? hide the useless debuffs on the target ? |
| 07:20.25 | Iceroth | Kirkburn, forceware 158.24 @ gf 7950 gt |
| 07:20.25 | Kirkburn | Ouch, well you reaaaally shouldn't be getting 20FPS in Shat |
| 07:20.25 | Punkie` | Boubouille: It just gives you a list of valuable debuffs, so you know which needs to be applied |
| 07:20.25 | Iceroth | couldn't agree more but well.. |
| 07:20.25 | Punkie` | You'd be surprised how often they fall off |
| 07:20.25 | Fisker- | i'm pretty disappointed in the release of BT |
| 07:20.25 | Boubouille | bah, I'll have to install it |
| 07:20.25 | Kirkburn | Gimme a sec to check what I'm using |
| 07:20.25 | Boubouille | but I don't raid |
| 07:20.25 | Boubouille | :( |
| 07:20.25 | Fisker- | none of it is Tigole's fault though |
| 07:20.33 | Kirkburn | Raiding is for noobs |
| 07:20.33 | Boubouille | people don't want me in their guild for some reason |
| 07:20.33 | Kirkburn | Alts are where it's at |
| 07:20.35 | Punkie` | Boubouille: Join a guild! |
| 07:20.44 | Boubouille | the fact that my last guild lost 2 officers because of me is probably one of the reason |
| 07:20.49 | Punkie` | 'Hey, I own mmo-champion!' |
| 07:20.54 | Punkie` | -Omg, you're in! |
| 07:20.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Boubouille: o_0 did you kill them or something? |
| 07:21.04 | Boubouille | well, one of them tried to kick me |
| 07:21.20 | Boubouille | but I'm a nice guy, this caused a one week drama where he resigned and I joined again |
| 07:21.36 | Fisker- | oh lawd |
| 07:21.40 | Boubouille | and the 2nd one kicked me because of a real life girl |
| 07:21.41 | Boubouille | :( |
| 07:21.51 | Fisker- | is that a druid with world breaker? :( |
| 07:21.52 | sylvanaar | mine removed me from the raiding roster complete with 6 paragraphs on how i suck |
| 07:21.58 | Kirkburn | Iceroth, I'm on 158.45 ... I don't really know how that may or may not affect the 7xxx series, I have a 6800 GT |
| 07:22.04 | Boubouille | Fisker- : we had the first druid with sulfuras I think |
| 07:22.10 | Boubouille | not my guild tho, only the server |
| 07:22.44 | Punkie` | i like the emphasis on 'real life' girl :P |
| 07:22.46 | Kirkburn | Lawdy lawdy |
| 07:22.59 | Boubouille | yeah. |
| 07:22.59 | Kirkburn | Punkie`, lol |
| 07:22.59 | Boubouille | :( |
| 07:23.10 | Boubouille | she left the guild while crying on TS |
| 07:23.13 | Boubouille | partially because of me |
| 07:23.14 | Fisker- | not the bitch right Boubouille? |
| 07:23.22 | Kirkburn | Boubouille, what did you do!? |
| 07:23.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: lol, yeah, especially because it's redundant. Everyone knows there's no girls on the intertubes. |
| 07:23.50 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 07:23.54 | Boubouille | well, she had to spend most of her night on a private channel with one of the officer + date the paladin class leader to be able to enter the guild |
| 07:23.58 | Punkie` | in my guild we had 2 guys pretending to be girls |
| 07:24.09 | Boubouille | in other words, she couldn't play, at all |
| 07:24.13 | Boubouille | but she was in all our raids |
| 07:24.15 | Punkie` | it was so funny when the first one came out, especially cause this dude was like all over him |
| 07:24.22 | Boubouille | and I had to ... mention this fact |
| 07:24.27 | Boubouille | but I suck at diplomacy :( |
| 07:24.33 | Punkie` | hahah |
| 07:24.39 | NightHawkTheSane | psh. tact is lame. |
| 07:25.08 | Kirkburn | I'm more disturbed by the way she got in the guild |
| 07:25.11 | Punkie` | anyway, i would post the link to the 'drama' from our guild forums but ammo would killed me |
| 07:25.15 | Punkie` | kill** |
| 07:25.20 | Punkie` | oh well, actually |
| 07:25.21 | Boubouille | well actually, she was in the guild at the beginning |
| 07:25.24 | Boubouille | got some pieces of tier 1, left |
| 07:25.32 | Punkie` | here is some entertainment: http://www.booncontrol.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5714 |
| 07:25.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: i'm willing to risk that, go ahead and post it |
| 07:25.37 | Boubouille | rerolled on another server, fully geared a priest (and dated a guy in the guild), left |
| 07:25.42 | Boubouille | and came back on our server |
| 07:29.19 | Kirkburn | When you say "dated", what does that actually mean? |
| 07:29.46 | Kirkburn | (Internet romance has never elicited much interest from me) |
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| 07:30.08 | Kirkburn | Punkie`, I *think* I just about understood what the hell that was about |
| 07:30.45 | Boubouille | Kirkburn : notinternet romance. |
| 07:31.00 | Punkie` | Kirkburn: haha |
| 07:31.01 | Boubouille | licky licky and sucky sucky ! |
| 07:31.20 | Boubouille | and obsidia just licky lickied me while I was alt tabbing here |
| 07:31.29 | Punkie` | I still lolling every time I read the bit " And that some dude researched me over the internet and found out that I was a boy. But I never admited." |
| 07:31.31 | Kirkburn | When someone admits that they "lyed", I just want to cry |
| 07:31.59 | CIA-22 | 03belazor * r40669 10FuBar_CharacterInfoFu/FuBar_CharacterInfoFu.toc: |
| 07:31.59 | CIA-22 | FuBar_CharacterInfoFu: |
| 07:31.59 | CIA-22 | - TOC bump to 2.1 |
| 07:32.22 | Kirkburn | No wait it was "liying" ... hmm, closer I guess |
| 07:32.33 | Fisker- | ok i hate blade's edge mountain more than those birds in skettis |
| 07:32.34 | Fisker- | stupid dragons |
| 07:32.38 | Fisker- | and laggy flak cannons |
| 07:33.04 | Kirkburn | Anyway, I guess the important point to take from this is: don't pretend to be what you ain't, fool. |
| 07:33.25 | Boubouille | yes |
| 07:33.32 | SunTiger | aye |
| 07:33.33 | Boubouille | or don't pretend that Vista doesn't decrease your FPS |
| 07:33.41 | Boubouille | sooner or later, someone will reveal the truth |
| 07:33.44 | Kirkburn | The dragons are stuck on spikes, are you that incompetent to die from dead dragons? |
| 07:33.57 | Fisker- | you silly n00b |
| 07:33.58 | Fisker- | not all died |
| 07:34.01 | Boubouille | they're alive Kirkburn |
| 07:34.03 | Kirkburn | No wai! |
| 07:34.13 | Fisker- | yes wai |
| 07:34.15 | Boubouille | on your computer, they died because of a freeze while entering BEM, becuase you're using Vista |
| 07:34.21 | Kirkburn | totally |
| 07:34.23 | Boubouille | and boom, spikes ! |
| 07:34.27 | Fisker- | there's atleast 5 alive dragons |
| 07:34.36 | Fisker- | in bem |
| 07:34.36 | Kirkburn | My god, did someone tell Blizzard? |
| 07:34.42 | Boubouille | oh great |
| 07:34.49 | Kirkburn | I think they should be told! |
| 07:34.58 | Boubouille | my site is popular ! |
| 07:35.05 | Boubouille | my servers are gunnah meltdown, lohl ! |
| 07:35.31 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc|Work: I started to look at integrating some things of TTK into ThreatLib |
| 07:35.42 | Kirkburn | That's a yay/noo all wrapped up in one sexy package right there, Boubouille |
| 07:35.56 | ckknight | Adirelle|Work: oh? |
| 07:36.02 | Boubouille | Want to see my sexy package Kirkburn ? |
| 07:36.07 | Adirelle|Work | ckknight: not commited atm |
| 07:36.35 | Kirkburn | Boubouille, can I invoke "don't pretend to be what you ain't, fool"? |
| 07:36.38 | ckknight | Adirelle|Work: well, have anything I could look at? |
| 07:37.47 | Kirkburn | Boubouille, regardless, yes, yes I would like to see your sexy package |
| 07:38.06 | Boubouille | You won't, it's not compatible with Windows Vista. |
| 07:38.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40670 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - optimization with texts. |
| 07:38.22 | Kirkburn | Ah, Vista is too sexy for it. |
| 07:38.38 | Kirkburn | Damn those minimum sexy requirements |
| 07:38.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40671 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - forgot to save last time. |
| 07:38.50 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:39.21 | NightHawkTheSane | metalayout? |
| 07:39.32 | Adirelle|Work | ckknight: for now I will simply add master target translation and a better detection of pure KTM users |
| 07:39.43 | Adirelle|Work | Adirelle|Work: well, it's drycoded and at home |
| 07:39.48 | Adirelle|Work | doh |
| 07:39.57 | Kirkburn | Meta > All |
| 07:40.23 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: it's what I renamed ABF to :-P |
| 07:40.31 | ckknight | it'll make sense lter |
| 07:40.34 | ckknight | later* |
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| 07:40.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: lol, i see. yeah, i figure |
| 07:40.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, you removed the others, no? :P |
| 07:40.45 | pb_ee1 | Heya all ;) I was wondering: is it a problem if I upload an AddOn on the WoWAce server that only concerns my guild? I mean, it has been coded for a roster. I suppose that yes it does, but I prefer asking on this channel |
| 07:41.05 | Kirkburn|afk | If it's guild specific ... well, er ... |
| 07:41.19 | Kirkburn|afk | How can you make an addon so specific? |
| 07:41.37 | Adirelle|Work | ckknight: btw, I hesitate to the way TTK will be merged. I'm thinking of having to boolean : KLHTMCompatEnabled and KLHTMBroadcastActive, the first will enable event registering, the second will trigger actual data broadcasting |
| 07:41.51 | liquiem | 1k line of code.. 900 lines make sure it only works for his guild ^^ |
| 07:42.00 | pb_ee1 | Well it's actually _not_ really specific, but at the moment I only have the code for the roster so nobody can use the data it creates ;p |
| 07:42.01 | Adirelle|Work | ckknight: I seen that I duplicated in TTK things that were always in ThreatLib, but not exposed |
| 07:42.02 | Kirkburn|afk | ckknight, I guess the idea is that there is a base design which can be altered by templates? |
| 07:42.02 | ckknight | what's the event registering do? |
| 07:42.07 | Adirelle|Work | s/seen/saw/ |
| 07:42.14 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: that's the idea. |
| 07:42.21 | pb_ee1 | s/it creates/the AddOn creates/ |
| 07:42.24 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: user-defined templates and all that |
| 07:42.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Simpler than a complete design for each ... design |
| 07:42.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Cool |
| 07:42.58 | pb_ee1 | I've seen there are some specific Ace2 categories like "Data Export" or "Guild" |
| 07:43.00 | ckknight | pb_ee1: I say go for it. |
| 07:43.26 | Adirelle|Work | ckknight: what would you think of puting all the KLTHM layer defintion in a method that won't be called before KLHTMCompatEnabled is set to true for the first time ? |
| 07:43.44 | ckknight | probably a good idea |
| 07:44.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Only 253 addons to go ;) |
| 07:44.08 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: Well, thanks a lot |
| 07:44.34 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: 1000? |
| 07:44.36 | ckknight | oh, lol |
| 07:44.45 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: no, I'm not going for that |
| 07:44.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Is someone going to go thru the svn and archive the old addons? |
| 07:44.57 | Arrowmaster | somebody already has |
| 07:44.57 | Kirkburn|afk | No, you're going for the big 50,000 |
| 07:45.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh really? Cool |
| 07:45.22 | Arrowmaster | i know a lot of 1.x stuff got tagged and removed from trunk |
| 07:45.38 | Adirelle|Work | ckknight: but that would mean providing some empty method stubs |
| 07:45.48 | vhaarr | SunTiger, ZealotOnAStick: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6834.0;topicseen |
| 07:45.57 | pb_ee1 | Just for your info, the roster is quite original because it manages both French and English at the same time (so people can upload data in french or in english) and you can make a search in both languages at the same time. Ex: http://roster.lords-zodiac.com/tradeskills.php?trade=blacksmithing |
| 07:46.03 | ckknight | Adirelle|Work: *shrug* |
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| 07:46.20 | ckknight | pb_ee1: interesting |
| 07:46.45 | pb_ee1 | If you find the idea cool, I'll work on it and I'll do a release of the code. But that's really interesting for guilds that speak both languages :p |
| 07:46.52 | ZealotOnAStick | vhaarr: poof. |
| 07:47.04 | pb_ee1 | (or that play in both languages) |
| 07:47.07 | vhaarr | :) |
| 07:47.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Lemme know if it gets reposted and I miss it. If he doesn't get the idea, then I'll do more than just nuke the thread. |
| 07:47.51 | Adirelle|Work | Antiar1, Antiarc|Work: ping ? |
| 07:47.57 | Antiar1 | POng |
| 07:48.11 | ckknight | Antiar1: fix your name |
| 07:48.24 | ZealotOnAStick | please do. |
| 07:48.31 | Adirelle|Work | Antiar1: err... well... dunno if my question is pertinent :p |
| 07:48.50 | Kirkburn|afk | In some (unenlightened) quarters, such a greeting would get you many bruises |
| 07:49.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. |
| 07:49.31 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: did you read what I said to ckknight about roll some changes of TTK back to ThreatLin ? |
| 07:49.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Wasn't a greeting, was a response to vhaar, as the thread went away. |
| 07:49.41 | Kirkburn|afk | In other quarters ... such a greeting would get your many bruis .... hrm, maybe I'll just stop. |
| 07:49.42 | ZealotOnAStick | didn't mean to greet vhaar as a poofter, or anything. |
| 07:49.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Though, for all I know . . . ;) |
| 07:49.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Sure, sure, that's what they all say |
| 07:49.57 | vhaarr | oO |
| 07:50.06 | Antiarc | Adirelle|Work: Kinda, wasn't really paying attention |
| 07:50.33 | ZealotOnAStick | I am also terribly amused by the existence of (and shall have to read more of) english2american.com |
| 07:51.11 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: was talking about providing a bunch of empty method stubs and putting all real method definition in another method, that wouldn't called before KLHTMSupport is actually enabled |
| 07:51.25 | Antiarc | Ah, I like that |
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| 07:53.05 | Punkie` | Antiarc: It would be really awesome if you could set a default texture for the threatbar pullout :) |
| 07:53.10 | Fisker- | awesome Kirkburn|afk |
| 07:53.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Same time tomorrow, eh? |
| 07:53.30 | Antiarc | Punkie`: It's supposed to be the same as your barrs |
| 07:53.32 | Antiarc | But that's broken |
| 07:53.36 | Punkie` | ah ok |
| 07:54.23 | ZealotOnAStick | as our barrs? |
| 07:54.39 | ZealotOnAStick | like, a fat whiny-voiced millionaire woman? |
| 07:54.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Gotta love a bit of 'how's your father'. |
| 07:57.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40672 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - before positioning, clamp and unclamp to screen. |
| 07:58.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40673 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.xml ThreatClassModuleCore.lua ThreatLogger.lua): Threat-1.0: Added logger code. Useful for helping determine threat values. No doc right now. |
| 07:58.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Suss that one out, if you can. |
| 07:58.24 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm sure you'll have a smashing time. |
| 07:59.14 | Kirkburn|afk | G'night all |
| 08:03.21 | vhaarr | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/17/magazine/17lootfarmers-t.html |
| 08:03.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40674 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - on :RegisterFontString, update the text right away instead of waiting 0.05 seconds. |
| 08:03.42 | Gandharva | No patch today? |
| 08:03.50 | vhaarr | :( |
| 08:03.55 | SunTiger | why would there be ? |
| 08:04.03 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:04.06 | vhaarr | SunTiger: Blizzard said there would. |
| 08:04.07 | vhaarr | morning |
| 08:04.09 | [Ammo] | there were rumors of 2.1.2 |
| 08:04.19 | SunTiger | vhaarr, where did they say that. |
| 08:04.22 | SunTiger | link plox |
| 08:04.33 | vhaarr | "So far things look good. If there is a delay, we'll let people know." |
| 08:04.37 | vhaarr | quote Nethaera |
| 08:04.44 | vhaarr | about a patch today |
| 08:04.46 | mitch0 | morge |
| 08:04.47 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 08:04.48 | mitch0 | n |
| 08:04.50 | Fisker- | also earlier said |
| 08:04.54 | Fisker- | "My 8ball says "YEEEEEEEEEEEES" |
| 08:04.57 | Fisker- | or something like that |
| 08:05.20 | mitch0 | so no end of arena season either? |
| 08:05.21 | vhaarr | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=311.0 |
| 08:05.44 | Boubouille | [10:03:07] <Gandharva> No patch today? |
| 08:05.45 | Boubouille | zource ? :( |
| 08:06.00 | vhaarr | Boubouille: Starting WoW? :P |
| 08:06.08 | Gandharva | hehe |
| 08:06.10 | vhaarr | but it should be tonight |
| 08:06.15 | Boubouille | Like i've got an US account |
| 08:06.15 | Boubouille | :/ |
| 08:06.28 | vhaarr | for EU, we shouldn't be getting any patch yet anyway |
| 08:06.28 | Peoii | The servers havn't even gone down here in the US in the Pacific timezone |
| 08:06.36 | vhaarr | right |
| 08:06.37 | Peoii | We've still got 2 hours. |
| 08:06.37 | vhaarr | Gandharva: nub |
| 08:06.46 | Peoii | Sheeesh, people and their assumptions ;) |
| 08:06.54 | Boubouille | NO PATCH TODAY OMG ARENA SEASON CANCELED |
| 08:06.57 | Boubouille | FORUM POST ! NOW ! |
| 08:07.43 | Boubouille | hmmmm, the http://www.mmo-champion.com/boubouille/bears-go-heal.jpg I posted in the arena post is popular. |
| 08:07.48 | Boubouille | hurray for me and my druidy friends |
| 08:08.24 | Peoii | wow... I can't think of the last raid I was on with a resto druid... *ponder* |
| 08:08.40 | ZealotOnAStick | They're really, really handy. |
| 08:08.45 | Peoii | 2-3 Ferals, but yea... can't think of one. |
| 08:08.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Stick 'em in group with your MT(s) . . . |
| 08:08.54 | Fisker- | but i like it though |
| 08:08.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh, I hear they can heal stuff too. And Mark. |
| 08:09.02 | Fisker- | The first time Blizzard wants to promise something in a long while |
| 08:09.02 | ZealotOnAStick | ;) |
| 08:09.04 | Peoii | Eh, the ferals can mark ;) |
| 08:09.06 | Fisker- | and they can't even keep it |
| 08:09.07 | Gandharva | personally I give a shit at S2. I only want my kara tanking gear look better ^^ |
| 08:09.07 | Fisker- | I LOL'D |
| 08:09.12 | Peoii | and they let the rogues heal themselves =) |
| 08:09.38 | mitch0 | how costy is string concatenation? which one is more costy: tostring(num) .. "-" .. tostring(num) or if (a == b and c == d) a, b, c = c, d, e |
| 08:09.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I just wish I'd known that they were going to be introducing new everything in S2, and that some of it would be so good. |
| 08:10.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd have bothered with arena months ago if I'd known the S2 spellblade would be that nice. |
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| 08:11.09 | Gandharva | some S2 items are a bit unbalanced |
| 08:11.12 | Peoii | I'm specifically working towards those dead sexy Mh/Oh combos |
| 08:11.26 | Adirelle|Work | mitch0: "you have 2 hours, your answer should be at least 500 words long" |
| 08:11.30 | Peoii | though for the life of me, I can NOT understand why they put spellhit on Arena gear... |
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| 08:12.04 | Gandharva | I got my T3 BS Sword two days ago, so I'm happy :) |
| 08:13.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Peoii: I dunno either, but I'm happy with it. Aff Lock, so that weapon would do just fine for me. |
| 08:13.55 | Peoii | I hear that. |
| 08:14.00 | ZealotOnAStick | In the . . . 2-3 1/2 months it's going to take me to get it. |
| 08:14.07 | Peoii | I'm going back and forth between the MH/OH and the staff... |
| 08:14.16 | ZealotOnAStick | If we haven't dropped Archimonde by then. |
| 08:14.18 | Peoii | Honestly, being a fire mage, either combo is awesome for me. |
| 08:15.04 | Peoii | I'm thinking the staff for the crazy amount of +crit... dear god yes plz |
| 08:16.21 | Fisker- | http://www.theoompa.com/Stuff/QuakeWars/zip/shot00016%20copy.png <-lol |
| 08:16.59 | Gandharva | Adirelle|Work: TTK is going to be merged into Threat 1.0? |
| 08:17.23 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: ouch |
| 08:17.27 | Adirelle|Work | Gandharva: kinda |
| 08:17.43 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: some minor things to change: http://ace.pastey.net/57120 |
| 08:17.47 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: why is it so pixilated at 1920x1200 |
| 08:18.02 | Adirelle|Work | Gandharva: I have still to handle misdirection though |
| 08:18.17 | Adirelle|Work | I think it's the only thing that's missing ATM |
| 08:18.27 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182240954223.jpg :D |
| 08:18.32 | Adirelle|Work | I've got a lot of positive feedback about TTK |
| 08:18.39 | Fisker- | Arrowmaster as far as i would guess it's a "feature" |
| 08:18.47 | Fisker- | Apparently he's controlling a drone |
| 08:18.49 | kebinusan_ | wow that quakewards shot is ugly |
| 08:18.53 | Fisker- | and it probably has digital zoom :P |
| 08:19.22 | Elkano | Adirelle|Work, but I hopefully as an optional plugin so we can drop KTM support at some point. suckz to allways be the one having to handle compatibility |
| 08:19.31 | Fisker- | http://www.theoompa.com/Stuff/QuakeWars/zip/shot00026%20copy.png |
| 08:19.34 | Fisker- | normal grafixxx |
| 08:19.39 | Gandharva | Hm, at Morigrim it seemed to work. Hunter pulled and bang, big aggro gain for or MT. |
| 08:20.08 | kebinusan_ | Fisker-: that looks much better |
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| 08:20.43 | Fisker- | thought it's pretty funny they went the trouble of doing crappy graphics for some parts of the game :P |
| 08:20.50 | Adirelle|Work | Elkano: we plan not to load KTM support unless it is enabled |
| 08:20.51 | abbat_w | morning guys |
| 08:21.19 | ckknight | Adirelle|Work: good policy |
| 08:21.37 | ckknight | Adirelle|Work: I think that listening to KTM would be good by default |
| 08:21.47 | ckknight | but not necessarily outputting |
| 08:22.06 | Adirelle|Work | well... outputting shouldn't be ressource intensive, it's more a matter of choice |
| 08:23.01 | Gandharva | Sadly I rely on TTK. My guild forced all users to install KTM on Sunday. My guild leader thinks Threat 1.0 is not ready to use atm since it's beta -.- |
| 08:23.08 | Adirelle|Work | ATM, TTK duplicates a bunch of ThreatLib internal behavior or data |
| 08:23.31 | Adirelle|Work | putting it back into ThreatLib will reduce this |
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| 08:24.00 | Arrowmaster | Gandharva: tell your guild leader that threat-1.0 is more accurate since ktm still hasnt been updated for 2.1 and still doesnt have proper shit for even before 2.1 |
| 08:24.51 | Adirelle|Work | ~x fr en sourd |
| 08:24.52 | Gandharva | I told him, and now (thanks to TTK) we are allowed to use Threat 1.0 too. |
| 08:24.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Omen/Threat is notably more accurate. I can't believe the people posting on the KTM comments on Curse calling it inaccurate/less accurate. |
| 08:25.06 | Adirelle|Work | Arrowmaster: I'll bet his GL will be deaf to this arguments |
| 08:25.13 | Adirelle|Work | s/ts/t/ |
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| 08:25.32 | ckknight | ugh, I don't like environmentalists... |
| 08:25.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah those are the kinda people i would never be in a guild with |
| 08:25.58 | Lyfe | i got into a fight with my previous guild over KTM. it was fun. |
| 08:26.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Their blind faith in KTM being accurate thus equating to anything being different being wrong makes me wish tele-bitchslap was a feasible technology. |
| 08:26.22 | Adirelle|Work | ATM my guild is going to enforce people using KTM, I try to deviate the GL to use Threat instead :p |
| 08:26.50 | theoddone33 | so I was thinking about being a paladin and it gave me an idea for a mod |
| 08:26.53 | Adirelle|Work | ZealotOnAStick: lol |
| 08:27.00 | ckknight | theoddone33: oh? |
| 08:27.01 | ZealotOnAStick | My guild leader and our MT/Tanking Officer were easy to talk into switching to Omen. The MT was THRILLED to get rid of KTM, was begging for us to switch. |
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| 08:27.22 | theoddone33 | kick costs 25 energy, which means that at any given point I can tell from a rogue's energy bar whether I have 2 seconds, 4 seconds, or 0 seconds of uninterruptable cast time |
| 08:27.22 | Arrowmaster | i just tell people what to use and they do it |
| 08:27.24 | Arrowmaster | works for me |
| 08:27.41 | theoddone33 | so a simple frame that just displayed that number would be handy |
| 08:27.48 | Adirelle|Work | Arrowmaster: lucky you |
| 08:27.51 | theoddone33 | then it could be extended |
| 08:27.55 | Adirelle|Work | Arrowmaster: I have to *show* them it actually works |
| 08:27.58 | theoddone33 | does a warrior have enough rage to pummel, etc |
| 08:28.05 | Elkano | ZealotOnAStick, it's easy: they trust KTM and Omen shows other values -> Omen suckz |
| 08:28.07 | Arrowmaster | the reason they do it isnt because they have to, they trust me |
| 08:28.11 | theoddone33 | with mage it'd have to be mana, wouldn't be so useful |
| 08:28.31 | theoddone33 | so basically "can my target interrupt my spell" mod |
| 08:28.40 | Adirelle|Work | my guildmates are quite anti-addons, like in "extract ? huh ?" |
| 08:28.47 | Gandharva | ZealotOnAStick: Omen/Threat is notably more accurate. -> In what specipic situation? I would like to show this to my GL. Do you have an example? |
| 08:29.07 | Gandharva | *specific |
| 08:29.26 | Adirelle|Work | Gandharva: show them the threat of an hunter feigning death will its pet in fighting something |
| 08:29.35 | Arrowmaster | Gandharva: balance druids |
| 08:29.40 | Arrowmaster | Gandharva: void reaver |
| 08:29.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Only two that come to mind are Al'ar P1-P2 transition and bog lords in SSC. |
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| 08:30.09 | ZealotOnAStick | We had multiple fights where KTM showed our primary shadow priest as highest aggro. He didn't fade or anything. |
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| 08:30.32 | ZealotOnAStick | and all but 1 time, Al'ar went for a hunter (or this one specific warlock, not me). |
| 08:30.39 | ZealotOnAStick | instead of the SP. |
| 08:31.05 | Gandharva | Thanks for the examples :) |
| 08:31.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Omen had the threat close to right. |
| 08:31.41 | Adirelle|Work | btw, got a question about TTK : should I report global threat as expected by KTM or as provided by Threat, when no MT is set ? |
| 08:31.50 | theoddone33 | the fun thing about a interrupt mod is you could juke kicks like you can juke counterspells |
| 08:31.56 | ZealotOnAStick | the bog lords are a pretty good one, because certain versions of them do a temp de-aggro on the tank, and then they'll go for -whoever- is next (or higher) on threat, ignoring the 10/30% rules. |
| 08:32.14 | Adirelle|Work | expected by KTM : sum of threat against all targets, provided by Threat: "untargeted" threat |
| 08:32.51 | xt | Antiarc: around? I still see the update issue from time to time |
| 08:32.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Gandharva: simplest thing I can say, is get him to run Omen and KTM side by side for a week, along with some other folks in your guild. |
| 08:33.09 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: any thought about this point ? |
| 08:34.03 | theoddone33 | I guess energy gains would screw up my idea |
| 08:34.06 | Antiarc | As expected by KTM |
| 08:34.18 | Antiarc | Otherwise everyone sending Threat -> KTM would be really low on KTM |
| 08:34.32 | Adirelle|Work | oky, that's what it does ATM, though I feel it's sending garbage... |
| 08:34.51 | Gandharva | ZealotOnAStick: I'll ask him. A few people switched to Threat 1.0 because of their slow computers. The difference was noticable for them. |
| 08:35.08 | Gandharva | Damn, I'm so slow in writing english -.- |
| 08:35.18 | Lyfe | i have a fast computer and i still noticed a big difference by getting rid of ktm. |
| 08:35.30 | xt | Antiarc: on vashj yesterday, our MT stopped syncing threat..and then suddenly he reappeared on my Omen^ |
| 08:35.58 | Antiarc | Was he up to date? Reworked that whole bit significantly |
| 08:36.09 | Antiarc | But now, I have to go to bed, so please continue to leave bug reports and I'll get 'em in the morning :) |
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| 08:53.46 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110646925&sid=1 <-lol |
| 08:53.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40677 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - unit clusters are created at no earlier than 3 seconds after a cluster is destroyed, which I believe may fix lockup issues. |
| 08:53.56 | Fisker- | cluster? |
| 08:54.07 | ckknight | your party is a cluster |
| 08:54.08 | Fisker- | You mean like we can position frames in one cluster and move the cluster? :o |
| 08:54.10 | Fisker- | oh |
| 08:54.12 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:54.17 | Fisker- | got my hopes up :P |
| 08:54.56 | vhaarr | Fisker-: haha, excellent threat title |
| 08:55.01 | vhaarr | " Damn, you got my hopes up... :P" |
| 08:56.13 | Fisker- | yeah :P |
| 08:59.56 | abbat_w | ckknight, i read in wish list about meta-layout. This is help ppl to make styles for PitBull. Do you have estimates how this feature be realised in PitBull? :) |
| 09:00.09 | ckknight | like a time? |
| 09:00.10 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 09:00.13 | ckknight | I'm still sick |
| 09:00.17 | abbat_w | I want to make my own layout ;) |
| 09:00.19 | ckknight | so I won't be working tomorrow |
| 09:00.32 | ckknight | I'm not 100% sure on the user interface, mostly |
| 09:00.48 | abbat_w | btw ckknight |
| 09:00.58 | ckknight | yea? |
| 09:01.23 | abbat_w | Can i add to wish list option to turn aura timers off by frame/group frames? :) |
| 09:01.55 | abbat_w | For example 'on' for player/target, 'off' for rest |
| 09:02.09 | ckknight | no, as that's already in. |
| 09:02.32 | abbat_w | oh nice |
| 09:03.57 | Fisker- | Wobin ! |
| 09:05.02 | omega_ | can I somehow get a numeric counter for auras on player frames in Pitbull? |
| 09:06.20 | abbat_w | Can somehow give url to site with UI screenshots. I think i need some ideas for player/target/tot/focus frames |
| 09:06.36 | Gngsk | ctscreens.net |
| 09:06.37 | abbat_w | And maybe i found good readable font... |
| 09:07.42 | abbat_w | Gngsk, thanks. You url nice |
| 09:08.22 | abbat_w | btw, maybe someone know |
| 09:08.51 | tsigo | is there an API method to get a quest's ID? for example http://www.thottbot.com/q2681 == http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=2681 == http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=2681 |
| 09:09.00 | abbat_w | If i make scaling of some elements like name/health text, can this scaling lower my fps? |
| 09:09.10 | abbat_w | Or this is independent? |
| 09:09.13 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40678 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
| 09:09.13 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 09:09.13 | CIA-22 | - changed fakeKTMVersion to 19.19 since newest KTM reports 19.19 |
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| 09:10.38 | dodgizzla | tsigo: http://www.wowwiki.com/API#Quest_Functions :D |
| 09:10.39 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40679 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: plug a leak |
| 09:11.11 | ckknight | omega_: what do you mean? |
| 09:11.13 | tsigo | dodgizzla: yeah, didn't see one |
| 09:12.50 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40680 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: better plug in place |
| 09:12.54 | Silviu- | ckknight maybe he means that counter that is already there but hard to see :) |
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| 09:13.07 | ckknight | prolly |
| 09:14.01 | CIA-22 | 03aldmehr * r40681 10ReadySpells/ (Core.lua Readme.txt ReadySpells.toc): ReadySpells: code updates for version 0.72, add another frame for mouseover, bug fixes, etc. |
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| 09:17.34 | cryogen | lightheaded <3 |
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| 09:17.57 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40682 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: removed double declaration |
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| 09:19.28 | Holyfaith | anyone here using SendSelf? |
| 09:20.27 | Fisker- | uh cryogen? |
| 09:20.37 | Fisker- | lightheaded is cladhaire's addon? |
| 09:20.51 | Silviu- | Yep |
| 09:21.07 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 09:21.23 | Fisker- | is "Readyspells" what i saw in that Nihilum movie on the shadow priest? |
| 09:21.36 | ckknight | cryogen: that's clad's |
| 09:21.38 | vhaarr | Fisker-: What did the addon do? |
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| 09:21.42 | ckknight | cryogen: I <3 it too |
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| 09:21.54 | cryogen | ckknight: right, oops |
| 09:23.39 | cryogen | ckknight: you can keep the hugs for other fun stuff like cartographer :) |
| 09:23.54 | cryogen | (praying i took a stab in the dark and got that one right) |
| 09:24.11 | omega_ | ckknight: well, now it has that "clockish" thing where it goes darker or lighter as teh buff or debuf runs out |
| 09:24.27 | ckknight | cryogen: lol |
| 09:24.28 | omega_ | I would like it to say "45", "44" etc as the seconds go down, if thats possible |
| 09:24.37 | ckknight | omega_: it does! |
| 09:24.40 | ckknight | omega_: it's in the menu |
| 09:24.42 | omega_ | aha |
| 09:24.45 | ckknight | gotta turn it on |
| 09:24.55 | omega_ | theres a lot in the menu :p will look closer then, thanks :) |
| 09:26.04 | cryogen | woot i was right about that one |
| 09:26.05 | Silviu- | ckknight maybe make it go outside of the icon ? that timer |
| 09:26.13 | Silviu- | So it will be more readable :) |
| 09:26.18 | abbat_w | no |
| 09:26.37 | abbat_w | try to setup font like Myriad.ttf and you can read even smalles numbers |
| 09:26.43 | Gandharva | [Ammo]: 'violation users can nolonger see eachother' -> Is this fixed? |
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| 09:27.02 | cryogen | too many cs, not enough sleep |
| 09:27.13 | cryogen | note: teething babies, not fun |
| 09:27.29 | abbat_w | also you can change format. not pitull switch from Xm to M:SS at 3 min before auras fades. Change this value to 60 and you be fine ;) |
| 09:28.16 | abbat_w | 10m -> 1m -> 45 for example. Not 1:32, this is too long format |
| 09:29.07 | abbat_w | my buff/debuff size is 20 or 22, don't remember, font is Myriad.ttf. I read all timers w/o any problems |
| 09:29.25 | abbat_w | fontsize is 14 or 15 |
| 09:29.34 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40683 10Violation/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Violation: move todo's into todo.txt, move locales into own files and subfolder |
| 09:30.28 | Wobin | Fisker-: You called? |
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| 09:34.01 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: ping |
| 09:34.34 | cryogen | [Ammo]: random question, but do you remember a guy called southz from your server? |
| 09:34.49 | NeoTron | tested recount.. |
| 09:35.07 | NeoTron | can't figure out how to get those dps graphs someone posted a SS of |
| 09:35.10 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 09:35.12 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: pong |
| 09:37.42 | [Ammo] | cryogen: I do |
| 09:37.52 | cryogen | does he still play? |
| 09:37.53 | [Ammo] | I think he was even in our guild for a while |
| 09:37.57 | [Ammo] | not sure |
| 09:38.01 | cryogen | yeah, thats what i remember |
| 09:38.11 | cryogen | lost track of him when i had my 6 month break though, dunno where he's at now |
| 09:38.35 | [Ammo] | this is what happens when you don't use push2talk: http://www.break.com/index/mom-tells-kid-no-more-warcraft.html |
| 09:39.39 | Punkie` | it is also what WoW VoIP is going to be like too :p |
| 09:39.58 | [Ammo] | yarrr |
| 09:40.25 | nevcairiel | man, ive been getting invites from lvl1 bots all morning |
| 09:40.26 | nevcairiel | thats annoying |
| 09:40.29 | nevcairiel | never happend before |
| 09:40.50 | cryogen | i need a macro, accept, report spam, leave |
| 09:41.26 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: that's because they can't spam with whispers anymore.. |
| 09:41.53 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 09:41.58 | nevcairiel | but it happend today the first time |
| 09:43.04 | ckknight | don't worry, it'll be all over once 2.1.2 comes out |
| 09:43.10 | ckknight | then they'll figure out something else. |
| 09:44.55 | cryogen | report spam is nice though, that's cut down on a lot of crap |
| 09:45.58 | ckknight | [Ammo]: I'm not sure I can finish the whole thing. |
| 09:46.15 | [Ammo] | that thing from break? |
| 09:46.16 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:46.17 | ckknight | I both feel bad for the kid and want to beat the shit out of him at the same time. |
| 09:46.23 | [Ammo] | the end is perfect |
| 09:46.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:46.28 | [Ammo] | the other guys on vent discuss him : |
| 09:46.31 | ckknight | I have to listen, then |
| 09:46.39 | [Ammo] | and his dad goes mental |
| 09:47.01 | cryogen | [Ammo]: when did he leave you guys then, if you remember? |
| 09:48.09 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 09:48.21 | [Ammo] | before TBC |
| 09:48.30 | cryogen | ok :) |
| 09:50.03 | ckknight | oh man |
| 09:50.07 | ckknight | I finished it |
| 09:50.17 | ckknight | that kid has issues. |
| 09:50.29 | ckknight | kids don't know how to manage their time properly :-P |
| 09:50.58 | [Ammo] | uhuh |
| 09:51.43 | FtH|Daemona | uuuh any reason why the multi-threaded downloading was removed in the latest WAU release? |
| 09:51.53 | FtH|Daemona | i liked it :/ |
| 09:52.08 | FtH|Daemona | forget that |
| 09:52.37 | cryogen | i should listen to it, i only watched the transcript so far |
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| 09:53.59 | Fisker- | i lol'd FtH|Daemona |
| 09:54.14 | [Liquidor] | Hahaha https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110534879&sid=1 |
| 09:54.27 | [Liquidor] | CM owns player |
| 09:55.07 | Gandharva | "I understand that making such a mistake can be distressing and I wish you the best with re-leveling it up to 375." :D |
| 09:55.59 | [Ammo] | pwned |
| 09:56.42 | ckknight | uberpwned |
| 09:56.44 | Gandharva | http://www.amulet.justgotowned.com/ |
| 09:57.46 | cryogen | he did get owned but that probably broke some rules by posting that :) |
| 09:57.51 | cryogen | +gm |
| 09:57.56 | ckknight | lol, Gandharva |
| 10:00.13 | pb_ee1 | Stupid question: is Violation mature enough to replace SW Stats? :p |
| 10:00.39 | pb_ee1 | Stupid question 2: Do you advice using Violation or Omen or both? |
| 10:00.51 | Fisker- | hahahah |
| 10:01.00 | Fisker- | unleash the fury of truth + pwnt |
| 10:01.02 | Jagobah | What will replace it for me |
| 10:01.04 | Jagobah | is merging pets |
| 10:01.36 | Gandharva | pb_ee1: Stupid 1: Yes, but you will miss some things like, max hit and other things. |
| 10:01.55 | Silviu- | pb_ee1 2 both |
| 10:02.13 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 10:02.16 | pb_ee1 | Omen gives more information than Violation on Threat? |
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| 10:02.23 | ckknight | lol: "Wow, I mean seriously, wow. I haven't seen a beating like that since France in 1939." |
| 10:02.26 | [Ammo] | definately pb_ee1 |
| 10:02.29 | Silviu- | yep |
| 10:02.32 | abbat_w | Now i use old ItemRack. I just switch profiles and don't use any other features |
| 10:02.55 | abbat_w | Should i replace old mod with new one like ClosestGnome? |
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| 10:03.08 | pb_ee1 | I'm trying to make my guild use Ace2 addons hehe, already made 1/2 of it use them but I'd like to find a replacement for SW Stats and KTM |
| 10:03.41 | pb_ee1 | Note: I'm not forcing them obviously :p |
| 10:03.55 | ashai|hc | ktm there is |
| 10:04.11 | ashai|hc | Omen |
| 10:04.13 | simeng | showed them the light you mean? :-P |
| 10:04.19 | pb_ee1 | ^_^ |
| 10:04.20 | pb_ee1 | Well |
| 10:04.24 | pb_ee1 | I've made an article |
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| 10:04.31 | ashai|hc | tbh forcing them is better |
| 10:04.38 | ashai|hc | with a hammer or something |
| 10:04.46 | pb_ee1 | In French (i've translated it, but it needs some fixes) |
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| 10:04.53 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:Pb_ee1/Article:Ace2_AddOns |
| 10:05.18 | pb_ee1 | ashai|hc: NOW USE ACE2 OR I'LL KICK YOUR [Censored] |
| 10:05.26 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 10:05.28 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110565934&sid=1 |
| 10:05.30 | ashai|hc | wall of text crits you for 1430 |
| 10:05.31 | ckknight | ^--- good one |
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| 10:07.11 | ashai|hc | ckk? |
| 10:07.18 | ckknight | yes? |
| 10:07.26 | pb_ee1 | ashai|hc: True, but I don't want to make an article like: "do this, do that, but do NOT ask me why you do it" |
| 10:07.50 | pb_ee1 | I want people to understand WHY Ace2 is cool, why they are going to get some cookies with it |
| 10:07.59 | ashai|hc | nm ill keep reading im sure there's a point down the list :P |
| 10:08.05 | cryogen | just looked at that GMs post history, he looks like a most helpful person :) |
| 10:08.29 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: bigwigs is missing from your raid setup :p |
| 10:08.30 | pb_ee1 | And what are those fuc*** externals that everybody is talking about but nobody know what it is (:p) |
| 10:08.58 | pb_ee1 | [Ammo] I know, but we use a lot La Vendetta Boss Mods |
| 10:09.07 | ashai|hc | bahaha nice |
| 10:09.09 | pb_ee1 | I'm using BigWigs, but it seems that a lot of people prefer La Vendetta |
| 10:09.15 | pb_ee1 | ARGH |
| 10:09.19 | [Ammo] | they should check their CPU monitor |
| 10:09.21 | [Ammo] | and reconsider |
| 10:09.44 | pb_ee1 | I did not update my article, i've added some addons to the list (a new part called "other addons") |
| 10:09.47 | abbat_w | pb_ee1, it's easy. Just told you guild mates about update system with WAU |
| 10:09.51 | [Liquidor] | http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?jjued7bvve8 |
| 10:10.08 | pb_ee1 | abbat_w: already did it :P |
| 10:10.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40684 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix issue with people changing config mode in combat. |
| 10:10.56 | pb_ee1 | I wanted the admins to read the article and to put it on the forums, but I'm not sure if everything is correct |
| 10:11.07 | pb_ee1 | Thus, I just put it here hoping that someone would read it :P |
| 10:11.31 | abbat_w | btw. someone use aced mod for monitor bank inventory? like BankItems? |
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| 10:12.29 | winkiller | aba-: OneView might be something |
| 10:12.31 | Roartindon | kergoth: ping |
| 10:12.42 | Roartindon | Or ckknight :) |
| 10:12.45 | winkiller | and OneBag, OneBank |
| 10:12.54 | abbat_w | winkiller, thanks. I'm looking for BankItems replace |
| 10:13.02 | ashai|hc | yep oneview is great |
| 10:13.09 | abbat_w | Want bank addon with wau update ;) |
| 10:13.15 | winkiller | no clue what BankItems is... |
| 10:13.25 | ckknight | Roartindon: what what? |
| 10:13.32 | abbat_w | Just display items in bank slots and bags |
| 10:13.38 | abbat_w | On all characters |
| 10:13.41 | Roartindon | ckknight: AceTab has a big secction in it that says remove on 2.0.3..... safe to remove now? |
| 10:13.49 | ckknight | I dunno about that |
| 10:13.50 | ckknight | :-P |
| 10:13.56 | ckknight | yea, I'll remove it |
| 10:14.18 | abbat_w | Ah! |
| 10:14.30 | abbat_w | Any mod author run arenas and use ArenaMaster? :) |
| 10:14.57 | winkiller | abbat_w: then try OneView |
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| 10:15.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40685 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua: .AceTab-2.0 - remove big section of obsolete code. |
| 10:17.53 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40686 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: removed unecessary TODO |
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| 10:17.57 | cryogen | heh looking at that gm's post history, it seems gms have access to all sorts of wacky information on your characters |
| 10:18.05 | cryogen | the wow databases must be enourmous |
| 10:19.26 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: "And thus, if you are not lucky and that it is this release of the library that is loaded first, the library will be outdated for all the AddOns!", that's not true |
| 10:20.02 | pb_ee1 | I suppose it is not true now, but I remember there was a problem with this a few months ago |
| 10:20.19 | pb_ee1 | No worries, I can update the article ;) |
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| 10:20.33 | pb_ee1 | (I'm currently on it, i'm adding the last part :p) |
| 10:20.55 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: I'm not sure you should be recommending replacement addons, though. |
| 10:21.07 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: What do addon authors have to do to get on your precious list? |
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| 10:21.18 | pb_ee1 | Nothing |
| 10:21.25 | vhaarr | Well, I want my addons there. |
| 10:21.28 | pb_ee1 | That's only my selection :p |
| 10:21.34 | pb_ee1 | I see what you mean |
| 10:21.59 | pb_ee1 | Maybe I should say more clearly that it is only _my_ choices and that the user can choose what he wants |
| 10:22.15 | pb_ee1 | s/that it is/that these are/ |
| 10:23.25 | winkiller | pb_ee1: winaceupdater is now called wowaceupdater |
| 10:23.47 | pb_ee1 | Taking notes. Changing everything. *BzZt* |
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| 10:25.06 | pb_ee1 | I'm French so there are surely a lot of mistakes in the article, feal free to tell me if you find some ;) |
| 10:25.31 | Roartindon | pb_ee1: Link to article? |
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| 10:25.51 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:Pb_ee1/Article:Ace2_AddOns |
| 10:26.30 | kbh | so i've been dreaming of this addon that takes a text file saved from antiarc's guild heroic key listing and updates guildnotes accordingly |
| 10:26.34 | Wixti | just by the intro you can tell the french roots ;) |
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| 10:27.27 | pb_ee1 | Wixti: :p |
| 10:27.58 | mitch0 | would someone like to beta test my RangeCheck addon? :) |
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| 10:28.31 | mitch0 | (non-mage preferred, as it's fairly well tested with my mage) |
| 10:28.35 | Wobin | Alas, US server |
| 10:28.49 | mitch0 | maintenance? |
| 10:29.40 | Wobin | yeah |
| 10:29.44 | Wobin | new patch |
| 10:29.48 | Wobin | that fixes the lockups |
| 10:29.55 | Sais | pb_ee1: Hmm. Translating cliches from one language to another is difficult at the best of times! |
| 10:29.59 | Wobin | and apparantly reverts sword spec to the previous one |
| 10:30.06 | Fisker- | not exactly |
| 10:30.12 | Wobin | well |
| 10:30.15 | Wobin | makes it unsucky |
| 10:30.19 | pb_ee1 | Sais: Yep :( |
| 10:30.24 | Fisker- | unsucky? |
| 10:30.30 | Fisker- | previous sword spec owned |
| 10:30.31 | mitch0 | so, 2.1.2 went live after all? or is it some other patch? |
| 10:30.34 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.57 | Wobin | The one where it reset the swing timer previous? |
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| 10:31.43 | Roartindon | mitch0: Yeah, 2.1.2 is downloading right now for me |
| 10:31.49 | Fisker- | do want |
| 10:31.50 | mitch0 | hohum |
| 10:32.19 | mitch0 | I'm 3 points short of the new arena spellblade :( |
| 10:32.52 | Fisker- | lol |
| 10:32.54 | Fisker- | ign fails |
| 10:32.55 | Fisker- | again |
| 10:33.06 | Fisker- | just saw that you could reserve and download wow patches |
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| 10:34.00 | xt | pb_ee1|eat: quartz > cbripoff |
| 10:34.06 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/irofld.JPG |
| 10:34.26 | Wobin | xt I agree |
| 10:34.40 | xt | especially since every raider needs to know about stopcasting |
| 10:35.02 | Wobin | stopcasting is the only thing enabling australian clothies to raid =P |
| 10:35.12 | SunTiger | hehe |
| 10:35.12 | xt | people that dont use stopcasting generally fails |
| 10:35.36 | Fisker- | my stopcasting macros suck :( |
| 10:35.38 | Wobin | If you don't incorporate stopcasting into your main dps macro, you're doing it wrong =) |
| 10:35.41 | Fisker- | For some reason i can't selfcast with them |
| 10:35.44 | Fisker- | Wobin btw |
| 10:35.48 | Fisker- | MrMiniPlow! |
| 10:35.51 | Fisker- | For keyrings!1 |
| 10:35.53 | Wobin | shenme? |
| 10:36.08 | abbat_w | which mod you guys use for stopcasting? |
| 10:36.08 | Wobin | hehe, I've never considered plowing the keyring |
| 10:36.17 | Wobin | Quartz has a good display |
| 10:36.36 | Wobin | not really -using- stopcasting, but giving a fairly good indication of when to use it |
| 10:36.46 | abbat_w | ah |
| 10:36.54 | kbh | i use quats but still dont understand the GCD spark thing |
| 10:36.56 | xt | abbat_w: just download quartz and it'll be obvious |
| 10:37.02 | abbat_w | I use quartz |
| 10:37.04 | Wobin | the gcd spark isn't really useful |
| 10:37.07 | xt | kbh: it renders your GCD ? |
| 10:37.10 | abbat_w | But don't use lag indication |
| 10:37.11 | xt | what's not to understand |
| 10:37.15 | Wobin | it's the lag indicator that's the thing |
| 10:37.22 | Fisker- | Wobin was thinking something along the lines of plowing by quest,raid,heroic,level :P |
| 10:37.25 | Fisker- | if that's even possible |
| 10:37.27 | kbh | well you have to set it |
| 10:37.28 | Wobin | oh =) |
| 10:37.36 | Wobin | I don't have any heroic keys |
| 10:37.40 | Wobin | so it never occured to me |
| 10:37.54 | Wobin | Do you really need it plowed though? |
| 10:37.59 | Wobin | Surely they're all autouse? |
| 10:38.14 | abbat_w | Most time i'm in pvp and don't need this feature. If i run heroics i never think about 'how i can make more dps with stopcasting' :) |
| 10:38.14 | kbh | wtb trash at begenning/end option |
| 10:38.20 | Iceroth | can't remember the last time i opened my keyring :p |
| 10:38.28 | Wobin | Iceroth: ditto |
| 10:38.40 | Wobin | Then again, one of my mains is a rogue |
| 10:38.45 | Wobin | I've never -had- to open it up =P |
| 10:39.04 | kbh | what kinda spell should a mage set the gcd spark to if he dosent have any tracking? |
| 10:39.05 | xt | abbat_w: the discussion spawned about pb_eel's raid package |
| 10:39.10 | xt | so it might not apply to you |
| 10:39.15 | Wobin | kbh instant cast? |
| 10:39.16 | Roartindon | kbh: ice lance, and scorch |
| 10:39.21 | kbh | kay |
| 10:39.35 | Roartindon | kbh: (using scorch as secondary, in case frost school gets locked out for whatever reason) |
| 10:39.37 | abbat_w | xt, if you pve runner i think you should know about stopcasting and dps increasing methods |
| 10:39.57 | xt | which was exactly my point? :D |
| 10:40.04 | abbat_w | yes |
| 10:40.12 | Wobin | stopcasting for dps is useful at any instance where you need to cast the same spell twice |
| 10:40.28 | Roartindon | Wobin: Also stopcasting for macros such as counterspell or spellsteal are invaluable |
| 10:40.28 | xt | doesnt have to be same spell |
| 10:40.34 | xt | you mean "chain cast spells" |
| 10:40.35 | Wobin | or any combination of non instants |
| 10:40.37 | Wobin | yeah |
| 10:40.40 | abbat_w | Ahah ;) |
| 10:40.54 | abbat_w | sure. cs only with /stopcasting before ;) |
| 10:40.58 | Wobin | Roartindon: That's more utility, than for dps increase though |
| 10:41.17 | Wobin | you want to stop channelling/casting to throw out that CS |
| 10:41.22 | Roartindon | Wobin: Yep. |
| 10:41.40 | Roartindon | Wobin: All of our aus time players use stopcasting macros with their primary dps spells to chain cast more effectively |
| 10:41.47 | Wobin | stopcasting for dps increase is only useful for people who have latency =) |
| 10:41.52 | xt | Roartindon: every dps should use it |
| 10:41.57 | xt | doesnt matter how good your connection is |
| 10:42.02 | xt | you still get ~0.2 s gain |
| 10:42.16 | cryogen | quick macro related question.. what would a macro to do this look like: "If im mounted, cast first this, then that(castsequence), else if im not mounted just do this" |
| 10:42.29 | Roartindon | xt: Hmm.. some of our players have a sub 50ms ping to blizzard... they probably don't need it.. but our aus time players (I'm one of them) greatly benefit |
| 10:42.39 | abbat_w | How you realise stopcasting? Looking at lag indication and if cast end, you start macro like "/stopcasting; /cast frostbolt" or something like? |
| 10:42.50 | Wobin | Whereabouts are you, Roart? |
| 10:42.55 | kbh | so, the right time to recast with quartz on is when the castbar is red? |
| 10:42.55 | Wobin | abbat_w: yep |
| 10:42.57 | Roartindon | Wobin: Adelaide |
| 10:43.03 | Wobin | kbh: yep |
| 10:43.06 | Roartindon | kbh: Yeah, I run in lag embed mode |
| 10:43.24 | Roartindon | kbh: So that the end of the bar coincides with where the red section would have started previously |
| 10:43.36 | Roartindon | kbh: (speaking about quartz that is) |
| 10:43.38 | kbh | ooh fancy |
| 10:43.39 | Wobin | It effectively shortens the bar |
| 10:43.53 | Roartindon | Wobin: Nah, bar is stil lthe same length, but the first section is 'jumped' |
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| 10:44.09 | kbh | but lets say i have high ping at the begenning of a cast and low at the end? :P |
| 10:44.09 | Roartindon | ie. the start of the cast will appear 0.5sec into the spell or so |
| 10:44.30 | Roartindon | kbh: Heh, Nymbia was asking about that and considering that too, but it's actually irrelevant |
| 10:44.37 | Wobin | if your ping drops 400ms in a 3 second cast, you have more to worry about than chaining spells =P |
| 10:44.39 | Roartindon | kbh: All that matters is your latency jitter |
| 10:45.05 | Roartindon | If you send a start a fireball at time t=0 sec. you want to send the next fireball a t = 3 + safety margin |
| 10:45.44 | Roartindon | The safety margin is (approximately half) the maximum amount your latency varies by. |
| 10:45.59 | Wobin | our raiding group's motto was "Oceanic Raiders: One second behind everyone else!" |
| 10:46.10 | kbh | lol |
| 10:46.31 | winkiller | !summon Sylvanaar |
| 10:46.41 | xt | Roartindon: just have them look at their ./combatlog |
| 10:46.48 | kbh | wow these mage changes are in-depth.. |
| 10:46.48 | xt | NOT outside shattrah |
| 10:46.52 | xt | but in a raid |
| 10:46.59 | xt | I have 39 ms before raid |
| 10:47.10 | xt | but I still gain ALOT from using /stopcasting |
| 10:47.23 | xt | I used to think I didnt need it..since I have 100Mbit full duplex fibre connection |
| 10:47.36 | kbh | i tend to get click happy with scorch spam |
| 10:47.59 | kbh | so i took it off there because i just ended up canning a quarter of my casts |
| 10:48.33 | xt | kbh: you probably just need a bit more training and you can do it without thinking |
| 10:48.40 | Fisker- | my stopcasting macros suck :( <-btw anyone know why i can't selfcast with them? |
| 10:48.44 | Fisker- | i.e. giev 1337 selfcast macros |
| 10:48.50 | Fisker- | with stopcasting |
| 10:49.13 | kbh | ./stopcasting ./tar self ./cast lolheal |
| 10:49.31 | abbat_w | =) |
| 10:49.32 | abbat_w | to |
| 10:49.34 | abbat_w | no no |
| 10:49.41 | abbat_w | /stopcasting |
| 10:49.49 | abbat_w | /cast [target=player] lolheal |
| 10:49.58 | abbat_w | this don't change you current target |
| 10:50.53 | kbh | that is sooo 2.0! |
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| 10:52.08 | SunTiger | why not /castrandom lolhead, lolshield, lolhot ? |
| 10:52.14 | kbh | lets see how many of my addons asplode with this new patch |
| 10:52.30 | SunTiger | ALL OF THEM |
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| 10:52.35 | SunTiger | kasplooyi |
| 10:52.54 | Morghus | 'n dey go 'piff' |
| 10:53.05 | kbh | dogfart |
| 10:54.06 | kbh | wtb custom alt+z for frapsin' |
| 10:54.52 | kbh | hide everything but pitbull target and maybe.... omen |
| 10:55.17 | Jagobah | ftp://67.19.139.94/WoW-2.1.1.6739-to-2.1.2.6803-enUS-patch.exe |
| 10:55.21 | [Liquidor] | kbh: You can do that |
| 10:55.31 | winkiller | am I the only one who thinks it's hard to create pitbull styles? :( |
| 10:56.02 | [Liquidor] | kbh: Just set the frames you wish to be visible hiding UIParent to WorldFrame and they will remain visible doing alt+z |
| 10:56.38 | [Liquidor] | However don't do that with the minimap frame as you'll just end up with a disco-wow |
| 10:56.53 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 10:57.21 | kbh | got server first doomwalker last night :P |
| 10:57.29 | [Liquidor] | Your servers down now in US? |
| 10:57.46 | Mikk | kbh: erm.. not a lot of raiding guilds on your server? :P |
| 10:57.58 | kbh | heh, its a bit sad really |
| 10:58.02 | kbh | no kills in SSC |
| 10:58.10 | kbh | 1 guild downed mag |
| 10:58.16 | Mikk | arf |
| 10:58.29 | [Liquidor] | 1 alliance and 1 horde raiding guild at our realm. Everyone else disbanded the last 2-3 weeks. |
| 10:58.36 | kbh | only a year old tho |
| 10:58.43 | Jagobah | if there's an addon that lets you do custom alt+z I would use it |
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| 10:58.56 | Gandharva | We killed him on Sunday and it was Horde first on our Server. 5 days after Alliance. |
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| 10:59.16 | [Liquidor] | Jagobah: Just re-attach the frames you want visible during your UIParent hiding |
| 10:59.25 | abbat_w | --- |
| 10:59.26 | abbat_w | A recipe for a superior resilience gem has been added and is rumored to be held by the residents of Halaa. |
| 10:59.27 | Gandharva | Only 4 guilds in SSC atm on our Server |
| 10:59.27 | abbat_w | --- |
| 10:59.32 | abbat_w | someone see this recipe? |
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| 10:59.48 | abbat_w | how many resilience this gem have? |
| 10:59.59 | Jagobah | 10 |
| 11:00.24 | abbat_w | now unique? |
| 11:00.27 | Jagobah | [Liquidor] I have no idea how to do that :) |
| 11:00.36 | [Liquidor] | I know :) |
| 11:00.40 | Jagobah | =o |
| 11:00.43 | kbh | [Liquidor] what he said |
| 11:00.51 | abbat_w | not unique i mean? |
| 11:00.51 | [Liquidor] | Cba to make an addon for it tho :/ |
| 11:01.10 | abbat_w | because vendor in Haala already have gems with resilience but unique-equipped |
| 11:02.32 | kbh | one of our new priests who was a recolored tier 1 mage yesterday will be mighty surprised to log into a recolored dungeon set 3 priest |
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| 11:07.41 | kbh | i wish i had the energy to write addons |
| 11:07.52 | [Liquidor] | abbat_w: http://thottbot.com/i27679 |
| 11:08.02 | [Liquidor] | That's the gem tho, couldn't find the recipe |
| 11:08.39 | abbat_w | ah, it's not crafted gem |
| 11:08.47 | kbh | had a good halaa strat goin the other day |
| 11:08.54 | abbat_w | i read about new recipe at mmo-champion ptr 2.1.2 notes |
| 11:09.12 | abbat_w | maybe blizzard don't put recipe in game? |
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| 11:14.31 | kbh | <-- glad as hell blizz fixed his horrible game res problem |
| 11:16.04 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
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| 11:16.41 | kirr | did the US get a patch today? |
| 11:16.52 | Zeksie | apparently |
| 11:17.04 | Zeksie | i'm just hoping it really fixes all this lockup crap.. |
| 11:17.36 | cryogen | hmm, a macro will still auto dismount you if it casts a spell right? |
| 11:17.50 | Roartindon | cryogen: yes |
| 11:18.04 | cryogen | so i dont need 2 things at all, i think i can do it whee |
| 11:18.19 | cryogen | oh no bugger that wasnt the problem i do need 2 things :D |
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| 11:19.02 | cryogen | castsequence [mounted] spell1, spell2; [nomounted] spell3 |
| 11:19.05 | cryogen | will that work? |
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| 11:20.39 | winkiller | pitbull config modes seembroken in svn |
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| 11:37.48 | Gandharva | To use embeds.xml with WAU (delete if disembedded) it only has to be in main folder? |
| 11:38.07 | Gandharva | Or is there something else? |
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| 11:40.09 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r40688 10Omen/ (Omen.toc localization_frFR.lua): Omen: frFR Added |
| 11:42.49 | Mikk | Gandharva: sounds about right |
| 11:44.02 | Gandharva | Mikk: OK, so let's give it a try. I hate FrameXML.log errors xD |
| 11:44.35 | [Ammo] | Mikk: any luck with the rightclick report? |
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| 11:44.53 | Mikk | [Ammo]: I'm rearranging the report menu first... AceOptions hates me :> |
| 11:44.58 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 11:45.09 | Mikk | wait, i'll give you a screenshot so yuo can tell me to stop right away if you hate it |
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| 11:45.17 | [Ammo] | go :) |
| 11:46.07 | sbu | morning |
| 11:46.12 | Mikk | [Ammo]: http://mikk.cjb.net/vio.jpg |
| 11:46.22 | JoshBork3 | mikk: i hate it |
| 11:46.23 | Mikk | Basically, you only need to set the target once, then you can click report types as much as you like |
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| 11:46.55 | [Ammo] | Mikk: hmm |
| 11:46.57 | Mikk | JoshBork3: Good thing I don't need to listen to you then :P |
| 11:47.08 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40689 10ItemPriceTooltip/ (ItemPriceTooltip.toc Libs/embeds.xml embeds.xml): |
| 11:47.08 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 11:47.08 | CIA-22 | - move embeds.xml to allow WAU to delete it |
| 11:47.40 | [Ammo] | Mikk: can't you just make the To thing a submenu for every module |
| 11:48.01 | [Ammo] | Mikk: basically swapping the current To -> module and changing it to Module -> to |
| 11:48.03 | Mikk | Then it becomes a lot slower to report several reports :S |
| 11:48.15 | [Ammo] | but easier to embed the menu in a window |
| 11:48.18 | [Ammo] | on the rightclick |
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| 11:48.34 | [Ammo] | rightclick, report -> raid |
| 11:48.43 | Mikk | hm, point |
| 11:48.51 | [Ammo] | which is the best |
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| 11:49.23 | [Ammo] | and while you're at it make a channel selector too |
| 11:49.29 | [Ammo] | so I can report to custom channels |
| 11:49.36 | Mikk | Means I have to cycle what the window displays to report different values tho |
| 11:49.42 | [Ammo] | correct |
| 11:49.46 | Mikk | Which I never did like about damagemeters |
| 11:49.48 | [Ammo] | or use the other menu! |
| 11:49.52 | [Ammo] | in the plugin |
| 11:50.12 | Mikk | Click the report name to make it send to whatever I sent to last? |
| 11:50.15 | Mikk | That works I suppose |
| 11:50.33 | [Ammo] | you can't have a clickable group can you now |
| 11:50.46 | Mikk | You can't? |
| 11:50.57 | Mikk | I know you can have clickable sliders |
| 11:51.23 | [Ammo] | or maybe you can I dunno |
| 11:51.25 | [Ammo] | try it :p |
| 11:51.34 | [Ammo] | that would be the best of both worlds |
| 11:51.49 | [Ammo] | add a 'desc: click me to send to last used destination' |
| 11:51.57 | Mikk | ya |
| 11:52.04 | Mikk | best of all worlds = win |
| 11:52.11 | [Ammo] | add a list of channels as well |
| 11:52.18 | Mikk | yeah yeah yeah =) |
| 11:52.31 | [Ammo] | maybe ignoring general, trade, ld, wd, lfg by default |
| 11:52.39 | xt | how does the dps-meter in violation work exactly? |
| 11:52.45 | xt | how long is the "spindown" time? |
| 11:52.52 | [Ammo] | read the module |
| 11:52.59 | [Ammo] | the source is quite clear |
| 11:53.07 | xt | ok. I tried the lazy way |
| 11:53.10 | Mikk | but reporting brag stats in [RaidInstance. General] is so much fun :> |
| 11:53.11 | xt | :) |
| 11:53.31 | [Ammo] | Mikk: k leave em in then :p |
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| 11:53.34 | [Ammo] | I don't care much |
| 11:53.49 | Mikk | hehe |
| 11:53.58 | Mikk | hrm, no, you can't click groups atm |
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| 11:54.10 | Mikk | i do have dewdrop checked out tho.... |
| 11:54.51 | [Ammo] | you're not only dealing with dew etc |
| 11:54.55 | Mikk | actually, it wouldn't surprise me at all if dewdrop itself supports it |
| 11:55.02 | Mikk | it's prolly the aceoptions -> dewdrop converter |
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| 11:55.25 | Mikk | heeey athou... damn nice work on craftlist2 |
| 11:55.35 | Mikk | i took the liberty of cutting down on some of the spam resulting from guild queries tho |
| 11:55.46 | Mikk | was annoying to get "nothing found" from all 50 online people :P |
| 11:56.12 | Athou | thanks, and feel free to add anything you want :) |
| 11:56.19 | [Ammo] | I need to go leak hunting some more in vio |
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| 11:57.40 | Mikk | err |
| 11:57.42 | Mikk | damn tabcomplete |
| 11:58.21 | Mikk | IRC tabcomplete should put people that's actually said something in the last N minutes first on the list |
| 12:00.24 | simeng | that's up to the client, not the protocol ;P |
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| 12:01.29 | Mikk | simeng: well duh. i was obviously talking generally :P |
| 12:02.10 | simeng | hehe, yeah, you should send a feature request (if you use irssi) it's a good idea and i'm too lazy :P |
| 12:03.50 | Higdur | anyone know the command to save the position of a Bartender3 bar? |
| 12:03.58 | Higdur | to be used in scripts |
| 12:05.23 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40690 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.toc Libs/embeds.xml embeds.xml): |
| 12:05.23 | CIA-22 | ClassTimer: |
| 12:05.23 | CIA-22 | - move embeds.xml to allow WAU to delete it and to remove FrameXML.log errors |
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| 12:09.35 | AKX | Mikk, I think it does that |
| 12:09.48 | AKX | Or at least a friend of mine said irssi does that. :P |
| 12:10.15 | [Ammo] | my irssi does |
| 12:10.42 | [Ammo] | I just did a<tab> and it showed AKX because he talked last |
| 12:10.45 | sbu | *siiigggh* |
| 12:10.54 | nadas | my irssi does that too ;) |
| 12:11.04 | Gnarfoz | mine probably does, too, but I use irssiproxy:D |
| 12:11.05 | sbu | why is there no easy way to create tables in lua/wow :/ |
| 12:11.17 | Gnarfoz | also because I can't get irssi to keep my highlight window working :\ |
| 12:11.23 | sbu | (visible tables, not data tables :p) |
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| 12:13.35 | Punkie` | Sounds like irssi is better than opera web broswer for IRC! :p |
| 12:13.50 | Mikk | prolly yeah =) |
| 12:13.55 | Mikk | but i'm a lazy arse |
| 12:14.08 | Mikk | got everything in the browser... mail, browsing, irc, rss feeds |
| 12:14.10 | Punkie` | what do you use Mikk? |
| 12:14.14 | Mikk | Opera |
| 12:14.17 | Punkie` | haha me too |
| 12:14.24 | AKX | Opera has IRC? D: |
| 12:14.29 | Mikk | yups |
| 12:14.33 | Punkie` | it has nice smilies, such as :D |
| 12:14.42 | Jagobah | =] |
| 12:14.47 | Mikk | aye, prolly the best-looking smilies i've ever seen |
| 12:15.06 | yacoob | kind of emacsish scary |
| 12:15.13 | Mikk | hehe |
| 12:15.18 | Punkie` | I didn't even know it had tabcomplete either |
| 12:15.35 | Mikk | yeah, it can do everything emacs can... |
| 12:15.38 | xt | Roartindon: would it be possible to display time between spell casts ? :D |
| 12:15.45 | Mikk | (i mean.. not even emacs can edit text properly :P) |
| 12:15.45 | xt | i want to know how good I am at stopcasting, and others |
| 12:16.43 | Mikk | actually, opera has limited tabcomplete smartness. if i hit tab on an empty line, it'll put in the last tabcomplete i used and a colon |
| 12:16.45 | Mikk | that's something |
| 12:17.10 | Josh_Borke | something LAME |
| 12:17.12 | AKX | So where do I find Opera's IRC? ._. |
| 12:17.32 | Mikk | Tools -> Mail and Chat Accounts |
| 12:17.46 | Mikk | or just irc://irc.freenode.net/wowace |
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| 12:18.39 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r40691 10Percent/Percent.toc: Percent: Updating to TOC 20100. |
| 12:18.39 | Mikk | It does everything "basic" that you need, including logon scripts for auth |
| 12:18.40 | Mikk | But you can forget about the 1337 script kiddie stuff :P |
| 12:19.02 | simeng | What will I do without my 7thSphere |
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| 12:21.26 | AKX | OK, so Mikk, I tried it, and it tried to LIST to begin with. Bad IRC. *thwaps* |
| 12:21.41 | sylvanaar | ok, I say we take bets on what bz breaks today |
| 12:22.10 | wobin | Priests! |
| 12:22.22 | yacoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.31 | wobin | That's alright, I don't like apples |
| 12:22.33 | Mikk | AKX: hehe yeah i know.. just tell it to join a new channel and forget about it |
| 12:22.37 | Mikk | just does it the first time |
| 12:23.01 | mitch0 | btw, is BT3 updated for 2.1.2? some time ago someone said 2.1.2 will break it |
| 12:23.03 | AKX | Meh. mIRC > Opera. :P |
| 12:23.10 | yacoob | irssi > mIRC |
| 12:23.22 | sylvanaar | k - im going to revert my change to Prat which "broke" Pitbull and Bongos... |
| 12:23.28 | Punkie` | Mikk: Show me where to do the logon scripts! |
| 12:23.28 | Fisker- | mIRC > * |
| 12:23.34 | wobin | ahaha |
| 12:23.39 | wobin | mIRC < * |
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| 12:23.51 | wobin | even xChat is > mIRC |
| 12:23.52 | AKX | Why do people hate mIRC so much? |
| 12:23.57 | Thrae | screen irssi > * |
| 12:23.57 | yacoob | Fisker-, you're mistaken, but it's allright - more irssi for us |
| 12:23.58 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 12:24.00 | wobin | It's the photo of the author |
| 12:24.01 | sylvanaar | thats what i use |
| 12:24.04 | [Ammo] | screen + irssi ftw |
| 12:24.11 | Fisker- | yacoob of course i am, i'm just stirring up the conversation :P |
| 12:24.13 | wobin | The squeaky click makes everyone hate him |
| 12:24.19 | yacoob | AKX, hate? Nah. Just picking proper tool for each job :) |
| 12:24.20 | Punkie` | Mikk: I found it, awesomeness |
| 12:24.30 | [Ammo] | well the author is a nice guy :) |
| 12:24.33 | AKX | yacoob, save for the ass-retarded scripting language, mIRC is good |
| 12:24.49 | [Ammo] | met him once while he was visiting the guy that handles the rest in .nl which is a friend of mine |
| 12:24.53 | wobin | I still remember that Onion article |
| 12:24.54 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/opera-irclog.html |
| 12:25.01 | Mikk | ^ it looks nice too :P |
| 12:25.05 | wobin | "First user ever buys subscription to mIRC" |
| 12:25.07 | yacoob | well... I found some quirky bits, but I haven't used it much. It's acceptable :) |
| 12:25.29 | [Ammo] | wobin: you'd be surprised how many people actualyl donate |
| 12:25.31 | AKX | yacoob, a good example of the scripting language's retardation is that foo $+ bar = foobar. |
| 12:25.33 | [Ammo] | or are on the maillinglist |
| 12:25.41 | wobin | [Ammo] not really =) |
| 12:25.44 | yacoob | lovely :> |
| 12:25.45 | [Ammo] | another IRL friend of mine runs the mIRC mailinglist |
| 12:25.50 | wobin | I've certainly donated to stuff I enjoy |
| 12:25.54 | [Ammo] | it has over 1.2 million subscribers :) |
| 12:26.01 | Mikk | nuts |
| 12:26.08 | wobin | wowace, point in case |
| 12:26.13 | abyssichate | has anyone else having issues at entering in configuration mode in pitbull? |
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| 12:26.43 | yacoob | eeek! walking eyebrows! |
| 12:27.27 | wobin | hm Mikk, I can't see the smileys on that screenshot? |
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| 12:27.48 | wobin | I like the name highlighting though |
| 12:27.52 | wobin | very clean |
| 12:28.07 | Punkie` | yep it's nice |
| 12:28.20 | Punkie` | I would like some notification on when someone says your name tho |
| 12:28.33 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40692 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: AceOption groups with "func" set now become clickable (the given function will execute when the item is clicked) |
| 12:28.44 | Punkie` | but meh, its fine otherwise :) |
| 12:28.45 | Mikk | whewt |
| 12:29.04 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40693 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Reverted removal of the world's most super awesome 'load manager' implementation which used 0 lines of actual code - yet somehow managed to cause trouble. Its back! |
| 12:29.05 | Mikk | yeah, wtb notification when someone says my name |
| 12:29.11 | wobin | I like xchat's 'ding' |
| 12:29.18 | wobin | and message notification popup |
| 12:29.24 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: you here? |
| 12:29.26 | wobin | (with message) |
| 12:29.27 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r57 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Typo in UnitClassification (elite, etc.) check |
| 12:30.05 | sylvanaar | mirc just beeps and beeps |
| 12:30.34 | wobin | yeah, I found I didn't like that sound effect |
| 12:30.40 | wobin | and could never be bothered changing it =P |
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| 12:30.44 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: http://wow.reaktio.net/th2.txt |
| 12:30.51 | Gnarfoz | woot, google code ftl |
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| 12:31.24 | AKX | ^__^ |
| 12:31.27 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: What's wrong with Google code? :D |
| 12:32.17 | AKX | www.WowAce.com - $10.00 Donation 1 $10.00 USD |
| 12:32.25 | Ronnie- | is there any other way to find the target of a spellcast other than UnitName("targettarget") on a UNIT_SPELLCAST_START? |
| 12:33.05 | Gnarfoz | seems to encourage splitting off to somewhere else "just because" |
| 12:34.19 | AKX | Is there any Acey addon that'd play a sound when some of my buffs is about to expire (or expires) |
| 12:34.27 | kenlyric | I like chatzilla. It copies the messages to the server tab. |
| 12:34.29 | AKX | I always forget to recast my selfbuffs. |
| 12:34.36 | kenlyric | on notify. |
| 12:35.06 | kenlyric | AKX you can use CorkFu to show when you are missing buffs. Doesn't ding though. |
| 12:35.23 | Mikk | And doesn't say when something is about to go away |
| 12:35.37 | Mikk | I wouldn't mind having Cork report stuff that is about to expire |
| 12:35.37 | AKX | Mnh, CT_BuffMod (yeah, I know..) did it. |
| 12:35.41 | Mikk | Since it's readily doable now |
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| 12:36.07 | AKX | I'd also need the notification to be something I couldn't ignore |
| 12:36.09 | AKX | At all |
| 12:36.17 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Most addon authors already use some other type of development medium, even if it's just making backups on their own computer. People should be free to choose their own development style. Wowace is one standard, but not everyone follows it. |
| 12:36.44 | Gnarfoz | of course :) |
| 12:36.54 | sylvanaar | Thrae - i think the comment was more about loss to the community |
| 12:36.58 | Gnarfoz | Just sad to see you go |
| 12:36.58 | kenlyric | AKX... put the window in the center and make it gigantic? |
| 12:37.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah I'll still fetch TinyTip, from wherever ^^ still the most complete tooltip mod that works currently ^^ |
| 12:37.35 | Thrae | Hey, I'm not leaving #wowace. TinyTip was never an "Ace Mod". So I don't see how you're "losing anything". If you want to hack TinyTip, I can give you SVN access. So I don't see how you're "losing me" ;) |
| 12:38.18 | Killmore | 40mb for the patch :\ |
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| 12:42.08 | Mikk | Thrae: In my perfect world, you'd just rewrite TinyTip core to be ace free and keep it here. TinyTip_Config could keep on being ace imo. But that's all just imo =) |
| 12:42.09 | abbat_w | TinyTip fine |
| 12:42.17 | abbat_w | Never got problems with it |
| 12:42.38 | Mikk | abbat_w: Noone ever did. It's just Thrae that wants TinyTip to be actually tiny |
| 12:42.42 | Mikk | Which is his prerogative |
| 12:42.57 | abbat_w | Why not? |
| 12:43.12 | [Ammo] | Mikk, less chat more reporting |
| 12:43.17 | Mikk | =( |
| 12:43.32 | Roartindon | Lol. [Ammo] is a mean man |
| 12:43.36 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 12:43.38 | mitch0 | thrae: I was just about to include RangeCheck support into TinyTip. what would be the correct course of action now? |
| 12:43.38 | Mikk | i need to test the change to dewdrop so I didn't screw something up too bad |
| 12:44.14 | xt | Roartindon: would it be possible to display time between spell casts ? I want to see how well I and others can time /stopcasting |
| 12:44.20 | abbat_w | mitch0, try to ask Nimbia to use RangeCheck for Quartz. Quartz for example have range check for castbar |
| 12:44.21 | xt | in Assement |
| 12:44.28 | abbat_w | Good place to you mod, not? :) |
| 12:44.33 | Gnarfoz | actually, I wonder how complicated creating a tooltip addon has to be, if still no one has created an ace2 based one ^^ (just wondering, not the 'ace everything' kind of wondering :P) |
| 12:44.47 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: Fairly complicated tbh |
| 12:44.54 | Roartindon | xt: hmm.. the issue is that there's no message for when your group members finish casting I don't believe |
| 12:45.00 | Mikk | Since you need to try and be compatible with bloody everything else that screws with tooltips |
| 12:45.01 | Roartindon | xt: Only when their spell actually lands/resists |
| 12:45.10 | xt | Roartindon: that's good enough, isnt it? |
| 12:45.11 | Roartindon | xt: ie. you ge ta message "blah begins casting Fireball".... which is fine |
| 12:45.14 | Gnarfoz | few options to modify with only left and right lines, no real frame layout stuff |
| 12:45.26 | Roartindon | xt: But then 4+ seconds later (depending on how far away they are from the mob), you get the hit, crit or resist message |
| 12:45.32 | xt | Roartindon: the time between the start-casts is what's intereseting |
| 12:45.36 | Worf | speaking of tinytip... i recently wondered if it might be a good idea to change the target-of- feature a bit... like sorting by class and put a view names of one class in one line, and maybe using modifyer keys to toggle target of and focus of .... what do you think? |
| 12:45.38 | xt | not when it lands |
| 12:45.48 | xt | some spells have travel time also, some dont |
| 12:45.52 | Roartindon | xt: well, there are some problems, if you start to cast, and cancel, and start again |
| 12:45.53 | mitch0 | abbat: well, quartz's range check is a bit different, as it only checks for the current spell being cast. for it RangeCheck-1.0 would be overkill, I think |
| 12:46.20 | xt | Roartindon: hm yeah..that could be bad |
| 12:46.28 | wobin | =( |
| 12:46.29 | xt | so you actually need to check for the land-messages |
| 12:46.32 | wobin | 8degC |
| 12:46.34 | abbat_w | mitch0, Bartender for example? |
| 12:46.57 | wobin | so.... cold... |
| 12:47.11 | Roartindon | xt: When I finish all of the other essential stuff for Assessment, I'll look at adding in extra (less common) information... |
| 12:47.33 | xt | sounds nice.. |
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| 12:47.47 | Roartindon | I feel Mikk's pain... I've been putting off proper reporting menus for about a week :) |
| 12:48.01 | Roartindon | I tell people to /asr for now and pretend to like it :) |
| 12:48.02 | xt | Reason i'm asking, is that I think a lot of people could do ALOT more dps if they knew how to use /stopcasting well |
| 12:48.13 | xt | and if I could "prove" it, that'd be amazing |
| 12:48.33 | Roartindon | xt: well, you could essentially get that information by counting how many spells they use |
| 12:48.37 | Roartindon | eg. if you get 150 fireballs |
| 12:48.41 | Roartindon | while the next mage does 130 |
| 12:48.48 | mitch0 | abbat_w: well, same thing really. BT has to check individual spells and I think it's easier for it to just check the actions/spells than use the minRange, maxRange estimate and check it with the tooltip range of the buttons |
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| 12:49.06 | xt | yeah, ofcourse..I use wws for that already..But I want the actualy numbers :D |
| 12:49.07 | Mikk | Roartindon: problem is cycles of scorch / arcane blast / etc etc |
| 12:49.13 | mitch0 | abbat_w: but it's not entirely impossible that this approach could result in some speedups (or slowdown) |
| 12:49.22 | Mikk | You could conceivably stat times between cast starts |
| 12:49.37 | xt | unless people interrupt their spells :( |
| 12:49.52 | Mikk | That'd be st00pid in a dps fight =P |
| 12:49.57 | sylvanaar | mikk - what did you add to dewdrop just now |
| 12:50.01 | Roartindon | I inevitably early interrupt at least 1 spell during a long boss fight |
| 12:50.03 | xt | Mikk: an early /stopcasting would do that |
| 12:50.13 | Roartindon | as I have my latency jitter set aggressively |
| 12:50.13 | xt | or movement |
| 12:50.23 | Mikk | sylvanaar: something i'm going to change a little bit |
| 12:50.33 | xt | like Al'ar phase1, he suddenly flies away, so you might have to abort your cast to run after him |
| 12:50.35 | mitch0 | abbat_w: have you check what RangeCheck-1.0 actually does? :) |
| 12:50.40 | Mikk | sylvanaar: i made it so that "func" on a "group" would get called when you click in a dewdrop |
| 12:50.48 | Mikk | sylvanaar: going to rename it to "onClick" or something since it's totally GUI |
| 12:50.49 | sylvanaar | mikk - it sounds like the feature i have been asking forever |
| 12:51.03 | Mikk | heh =) |
| 12:51.15 | abbat_w | mitch0, just read description. But almost all unit frames have range check. Such as agUF / PitBull |
| 12:51.37 | mitch0 | yeah, those could use it |
| 12:51.42 | Thrae | mitch0: New version of TinyTip will have full module support, anyone will be able to add their own modules to it as separate LoD / LoadManager addons. |
| 12:51.44 | GnancyWK | you can just run after him tho |
| 12:51.47 | mitch0 | but they usually use rangecheck only for dispel range |
| 12:51.54 | GnancyWK | no need to abort the cast as running does that |
| 12:52.03 | GnancyWK | whoa i was scrolled up sorry |
| 12:52.04 | abbat_w | yes, only for dispel |
| 12:52.05 | mitch0 | and for that a simple IsSpellInRange() is faster than rangecheck |
| 12:52.09 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Question is.. can you put a tick mark next to the group also right? :) |
| 12:52.15 | AKX | Sigh. |
| 12:52.18 | AKX | I'm bored. |
| 12:52.19 | AKX | organizations['WoWAce'].getDonationInterface().acceptDonation(people['AKX'].getFinanceObject().retrieveMoney(CurrencyFactory().getMoneyObject(10,CurrencyFactory().getCurrency('USD')).convertTo(CurrencyFactory().getCurrency('EUR')) |
| 12:52.21 | Mikk | you can't tick groups at all |
| 12:52.24 | AKX | That's bad API for you there... |
| 12:52.29 | abbat_w | But maybe this is because no one have good range check library |
| 12:52.40 | Roartindon | Mikk: Can you make the func() set whether it should have a ticked mark? |
| 12:52.44 | sylvanaar | Roartindon well i'd be happy if they just enabled or disabled |
| 12:52.46 | wobin | it's not possible to have a 'good rangecheck' |
| 12:52.58 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: Would you be able to click a disabled group? |
| 12:53.00 | abbat_w | good - faster and efficient |
| 12:53.08 | abbat_w | with good api |
| 12:53.09 | Mikk | Roartindon: can't click disabled |
| 12:53.15 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: That goes against the whole disabled thing :) |
| 12:53.28 | mitch0 | abbat_w: well, I'm not the one to decide on those points :) I'm kinda biased |
| 12:53.45 | Mikk | I could possibly hack in a check for groups thing tho |
| 12:53.48 | winkiller | sylvanaar: you're doing WAU, right? |
| 12:53.49 | mitch0 | anyway, the docs are there, so if someone wants to use it, they're free to do |
| 12:53.53 | Mikk | Means you'd have to provide a "get" for a group |
| 12:54.10 | wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.31 | abbat_w | wobin, it's depends what 'good' means |
| 12:54.32 | sylvanaar | Mikk yeah its a group that acts like a toggle - perfect for module UI |
| 12:54.38 | wobin | well no |
| 12:54.41 | winkiller | sylvanaar: may I suggest to insert a "go to website/downloads" link in the menu, please? - everytime I am updating I am searching again and going about -> wiki -> SF -> download |
| 12:54.42 | abbat_w | why? |
| 12:54.48 | wobin | all rangechecks use spells to determine 'range' |
| 12:54.50 | wobin | and that's it |
| 12:54.54 | mitch0 | all I need is a standalon range display (RangeCheck does it), and ranges in tooltips for mouseover units (which I wanted to hack into TinyTip, but now I'm kinda screwed with the TinyTip moving and stuff) |
| 12:54.58 | wobin | you can't make it faster or more efficient |
| 12:55.20 | wobin | mitch0: Thrae said he'd let people have write access to the googlecode svn |
| 12:55.41 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40694 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 12:55.41 | CIA-22 | DewdropLib: Change previous commit. "onClick" is now what you use in an |
| 12:55.41 | CIA-22 | AceOption table to make a group item clickable -- just provide a function and |
| 12:55.41 | CIA-22 | you're set. Using "func" for this interfered with passing groups, not good. |
| 12:55.47 | sylvanaar | winkiller sure - dont you get a popup which directs you there? |
| 12:55.47 | mitch0 | but he also said that he would like to keep THAT version 1) ace-free, and 2) actually tiny |
| 12:56.12 | [Ammo] | rangecheck has no use in tinytip |
| 12:56.15 | mitch0 | wobin: I'm using spell ranges and interact distances intermixed in rangecheck, so it's slightly more accurate |
| 12:56.17 | wobin | You were going to dump another library into it? =P |
| 12:56.23 | winkiller | sylvanaar: nope, today for example I had an empty window and read "new version avail" in the "statsu message" |
| 12:56.24 | mitch0 | ammo: yes it dos |
| 12:56.27 | mitch0 | does |
| 12:56.29 | [Ammo] | no it doesn't |
| 12:56.31 | winkiller | never got a popup |
| 12:56.38 | mitch0 | I had it in my default blizz tooltip, and I liked it |
| 12:56.38 | [Ammo] | just add your own tooltip hooking etc |
| 12:56.44 | [Ammo] | and add it there |
| 12:56.53 | Thrae | mitch0: TinyTip would not be TinyTip if I included features like that into TinyTip proper. Like I said, I'll allow module support. TinyTip proper (OnTooltipSetUnit, which happens when you mouseover a unit) triggers a message to all registered modules at the end of TooltipFormat before and after GameTooltip:Show(). |
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| 12:56.55 | mitch0 | oh, mixed up |
| 12:56.58 | [Ammo] | should work fine on conjunction with any tip addon |
| 12:57.16 | mitch0 | what I'm talking about is that I need range display in the tooltip, the "how" is not clear yet (for me) |
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| 12:57.35 | [Ammo] | mitch0: just make an addon that uses your lib and add it to the tooltip? |
| 12:57.59 | winkiller | sylvanaar: and one personal annoyance - why was the log font changed? it's that broken one on my system :P caliobri or bitstream |
| 12:58.41 | Thrae | mitch0: I seriously don't see why you can't just use either the module system, or do what [Ammo] is suggesting. |
| 12:58.45 | winkiller | but I keep my mouth shut, WAU is excellent as it is |
| 12:58.55 | Mikk | sylvanaar: going to work on get() on groups then ... no promises tho, it's all very automagic :P |
| 12:58.58 | mitch0 | well, it would be a bit "cleaner" in tinytip, as it's building up the tooltip right there. the implementation I did for the default blizz tooltip was a mess |
| 12:59.02 | sylvanaar | cause i likez callibri - i added your menu item just now - itll be in the next build |
| 12:59.05 | Awaa | While picking herbs: Violation\Violation.lua:2511: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 12:59.13 | [Ammo] | sweeet |
| 12:59.14 | winkiller | thanks |
| 12:59.17 | wobin | oh man |
| 12:59.18 | [Ammo] | it logs herbalism! |
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| 12:59.21 | wobin | violated herbs |
| 12:59.22 | Thrae | mitch0: No, it would actually be a LOT cleaner if it was its own addon. |
| 12:59.26 | [Ammo] | version awaa? |
| 12:59.41 | [Ammo] | as in vio revision |
| 12:59.54 | mitch0 | thrae: as I said, I don't yet know how exactly it would be done. I've read that tinytip was somehow modular, but I couldn't find the api really at first glace (I must admit I haven't digged into it for long, like a 10sec glance :) |
| 13:00.22 | Mikk | Current TinyTip isn't really modular |
| 13:00.27 | Mikk | Thrae's talking about the new one |
| 13:00.29 | [Ammo] | Awaa: ooh oops, I messed that one up :) |
| 13:00.30 | Mikk | (afaik =)) |
| 13:00.31 | abbat_w | oh |
| 13:00.33 | Thrae | mitch0: The new version -will- be modular. I hope to have this all finished by the end of the week. So you have some time to flesh out your own addon idea -- just hook OnTooltipSetUnit for now. |
| 13:00.46 | Jagobah | there's a new tinytip! |
| 13:00.51 | mitch0 | thrae: ok, thanks |
| 13:00.56 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 13:00.59 | abbat_w | Guys, which chat addon allow to make filters? Just see screenshot at wowace: http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/8/89/AceAddons-DeuceCommander.jpg |
| 13:01.21 | mitch0 | actually, my addon idea is pretty much flashed ot :) I just want to insert a string somewhere in the tooltip if it's a mouseover unit tip |
| 13:01.25 | wobin | Taggle? =P |
| 13:01.27 | wobin | perhaps? |
| 13:01.43 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40695 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: Potential bugfix. |
| 13:01.44 | wobin | Just a guess, mind you =P |
| 13:02.19 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40696 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: bugfix |
| 13:02.33 | mitch0 | thrae: my only problem was (with the default blizz tooltip) is that I had to do a lot of juggling with the tooltip geometry to make it work, and it sometimes screwed up anyway. |
| 13:02.55 | Thrae | mitch0: You're suppose to call GameTooltip:Show() after GameTooltip:AddLine() |
| 13:03.04 | Thrae | GameTooltip:Show() resizes the tooltip, among other things. |
| 13:03.21 | mitch0 | well, yeah. most of the time it did, too :) |
| 13:03.31 | [Ammo] | Awaa: fixed. |
| 13:03.37 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r40697 10Skinner/ (11 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:03.37 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Skinned DoubleWide |
| 13:03.37 | CIA-22 | - allow QuestFu Tracker to be skinned |
| 13:03.37 | CIA-22 | - Fix bugs with toggling LoD frames |
| 13:03.37 | CIA-22 | - Moved Guild MOTD |
| 13:03.38 | CIA-22 | - Macro Frame updated |
| 13:03.40 | CIA-22 | - GemHelper skin updated |
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| 13:03.59 | sylvanaar | Mikk thanks - it'd be super to have via aceoptions - will totally clean up alot of module options menus |
| 13:04.09 | mitch0 | but I'll look into it again, maybe this time around I'll have better luck. as far as I remeber I "stole" some code from somewhere and modified that without really understanding the problem :P |
| 13:05.08 | Mikk | sylvanaar: problem is i don't know how to make it work well in text mode |
| 13:06.01 | Mikk | or waterfall for that matter |
| 13:06.06 | Mikk | someone will certainly need to mod that |
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| 13:06.25 | abbat_w | waterfall be better ;) |
| 13:06.29 | sylvanaar | i think in aceconsole there is already something like it |
| 13:06.39 | abbat_w | nice to configure addons with Niagara for example |
| 13:07.16 | Mikk | sylvanaar: on/off for groups? doubt it |
| 13:07.27 | Mikk | what were you thinking of? |
| 13:08.16 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r58 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Oh, unit classification should probably be added to the level line, not just checked. (http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/) |
| 13:11.00 | sylvanaar | mikk something like showing (off) for /addon module 's description in red - maybe i am thinking of something else |
| 13:11.11 | Ronnie- | is there any other way to find the target of a spellcast other than UnitName("targettarget") on a UNIT_SPELLCAST_START? |
| 13:12.20 | Mikk | sylvanaar: aye, that's standard toggle behavior... but groups can't be toggles |
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| 13:13.41 | Zeksie | no ronnie, which is why we don't use it, cos it totally doesn't work with click casting |
| 13:14.37 | Zeksie | oh btw, when do servers come up for you guys? ie, how long from now. wanna know when we can expect to find out if it fixes the lockup problems. or whether to waste another day on it.. |
| 13:14.38 | Ronnie- | what does click casting have to do with it? |
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| 13:14.56 | Zeksie | cos your target can cast on any unit, regardless of their target. |
| 13:15.03 | Zeksie | so getting target target name is worthless |
| 13:15.23 | Ronnie- | true that |
| 13:16.04 | Mikk | yaknow... it'd be schweet to have ischecked for texts too |
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| 13:16.15 | Mikk | or maybe it doesn't matter much |
| 13:16.26 | Mikk | isChecked works, anyway |
| 13:17.08 | Gandharva | Thrae: Will it be possible to get the new TinyTip via WAU? |
| 13:17.44 | pb_ee1|eat | I have finished updating: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:Pb_ee1/Article:Ace2_AddOns |
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| 13:18.07 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40698 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: AceOption feed: add "isChecked" argument to "group"s. Provide a func that returns true or false and you have a nice visual indicator. |
| 13:18.07 | Gandharva | And is it already usable? |
| 13:18.15 | Mikk | Gandharva: no and no |
| 13:18.20 | Ronnie- | so Zeksie theres no way around it? :< |
| 13:18.45 | Gandharva | Mikk: Hm, ok. Will use TortoiseSVN then :) |
| 13:18.59 | Zeksie | nah. i looked into it a while back. wanted some 'incoming heal' kind of functionality in x-perl without having to rely on comms, but couldn't get it to work. |
| 13:19.18 | Zeksie | only your own SPELLCAST_SENT has the unit name of the cast target, but you don't get that event for other people's casts |
| 13:19.24 | Ronnie- | yep |
| 13:19.30 | Ronnie- | thanks for your input |
| 13:19.34 | pb_ee1|eat | vhaarr: What would you recommend for replacing the "And thus, if you are not lucky and that it is this release of the library that is loaded first, the library will be outdated for all the AddOns!" sentence? Is it still better to update Without externals or not? |
| 13:20.34 | Ronnie- | it doesnt even work even when you are targetting the unit you want to cast your spell on |
| 13:20.38 | Mikk | Without externals = win. Just update all when you do. |
| 13:20.41 | Ronnie- | for example, when aggroing a caster mob |
| 13:20.52 | Ronnie- | UnitName("targettarget") when it casts a spell returns nil |
| 13:21.00 | Ronnie- | need to add some delay to it ;/ |
| 13:21.23 | AKX | Um... Can I upload a trivial non-Ace mod to WoWAce.com? |
| 13:21.25 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: Yep, but I need a reason to explain why it is better :p^ |
| 13:21.27 | AKX | I mean, SVN it. |
| 13:21.37 | Mikk | AKX: Ofc. Just as long as the ace spirit is kept. |
| 13:21.42 | sylvanaar | Mikk ischecked sounds close - if it could take away the group's expandability when not checked, that'd be most of it |
| 13:21.48 | AKX | Mikk, define "Ace spirit"? |
| 13:21.50 | Zeksie | yes, there's a good 1 sec ish latency between setting target and the server notifying you of results. |
| 13:21.57 | Mikk | AKX: Non bloated :> |
| 13:22.00 | mitch0 | pb_ee1: a bit biased :) |
| 13:22.06 | AKX | Would an addon that changes flight master frames to Bel-Air be in with the spirit? |
| 13:22.12 | Mikk | sylvanaar: You can do that yourself. Just snip away the args for the group and it'll be nice and empty |
| 13:22.27 | pb_ee1 | mitch0: wow wait 1sec, taking my dictionnary you just used a word I don't understand ^_^ |
| 13:22.27 | Thrae | Gandharva: I'm getting around to an auto-update script for my SVNs and others. |
| 13:22.47 | Mikk | sylvanaar: But the problem with that is it won't be configurable via text then |
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| 13:23.22 | pb_ee1 | mitch0: What do you mean? |
| 13:23.24 | Fisker- | Blizzard is owned by Vivendi right? |
| 13:23.33 | pb_ee1 | Yes |
| 13:23.37 | Mikk | Fisker-: yes. the same guys that screwed farscape over. #%&¤#&#%¤ |
| 13:23.58 | mitch0 | pb_ee1: "When you read this, you will surely ask why everybody is not using Ace2 AddOns whereas they seem more powerful and efficient than "normal" AddOns. " |
| 13:24.00 | sylvanaar | Mikk yeah, i can map one of the group's options to the IsChecked value |
| 13:24.05 | Fisker- | Mikk :P |
| 13:24.40 | mitch0 | pb_ee1: you know there are some nice, efficient addons outside of ace, right? :) |
| 13:24.47 | pb_ee1 | mitch0: Yes :p |
| 13:24.52 | mitch0 | pb_ee1: that sentence is asking for a flamewar |
| 13:24.58 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
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| 13:25.13 | sylvanaar | Mikk atm everything is like /addon module toggle, so i can map /addon module to toggle |
| 13:25.21 | mitch0 | pb_ee1: you'll have keston or whatshisname upon your neck in a sec :) |
| 13:25.27 | pb_ee1 | That's what I said: this article needs some work and i'm here to get everything right :P |
| 13:25.46 | pb_ee1 | I don't want people to get killed ^_^ |
| 13:25.50 | Iceroth | can anyone recommend a good keyboard and/or mouse that is _not_ logitech? |
| 13:26.00 | Mikk | sylvanaar: just take care that the whole thing doesn't bite you in the arse via waterfall config... but that's a good pilot case i guess |
| 13:26.09 | mitch0 | iceroth: logitech is teh rox |
| 13:26.15 | Gandharva | Thrae: WAU or TortoiseSVN - I don't want more tools to update my Addons. It's only Tekkubs stuff, SSPVP and TinyTip I have to update withTortoiseSVN. |
| 13:26.16 | Iceroth | logitech is teh shit |
| 13:26.22 | Iceroth | their drivers are utter crap |
| 13:26.32 | mitch0 | well, go by an m$ one then |
| 13:26.38 | Gandharva | Do they even have Vista drivers? |
| 13:26.42 | Iceroth | they do |
| 13:26.45 | mitch0 | I have zero problems with my mx510 |
| 13:26.46 | Iceroth | they just work like shit |
| 13:26.48 | Thrae | Gandharva: It's just a script, but I suppose you could just select all folders with TortoiseSVN and get the same result |
| 13:26.58 | Iceroth | lx700 keyboard inserts random characters |
| 13:27.03 | mitch0 | if you're using vista, it's all your fault |
| 13:27.11 | Gandharva | Thrae: Yes |
| 13:27.17 | Iceroth | this is me typing 123 fast: 123123123jl123jl123jl123jl |
| 13:27.26 | Iceroth | wth does the J do there? |
| 13:27.27 | Mikk | ya, running a new version of windows before the first servicepack = pwnd. st00pid. |
| 13:27.57 | Gandharva | What if there will be no SP for Vista? ^^ |
| 13:27.58 | mitch0 | ice: is it a cordless kb? |
| 13:28.02 | Iceroth | yeah |
| 13:28.08 | mitch0 | battery low? |
| 13:28.39 | Iceroth | shouldn't be, and there's 5 page thread of ppl complaining about the same thing in logitech support forums |
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| 13:28.54 | mitch0 | or you have some heavy signal emitters nearby? playing from a nuclear power plant by any chance? or fermilab? |
| 13:29.16 | Iceroth | well, if i turn on the "enchanched F mode keys", the problem disappears |
| 13:29.18 | Iceroth | so, unlikely |
| 13:29.24 | Iceroth | their software is just shit |
| 13:29.31 | mitch0 | well, turned that on then. problem solved |
| 13:29.35 | Iceroth | not really |
| 13:29.48 | Iceroth | unless you consider it a solution that X % of your keys don't work anymore |
| 13:30.24 | mitch0 | I wouldn't by a keyboard with useless keys anyway :) |
| 13:30.42 | mitch0 | unfortunately it's hardly possible to get one without the windows keys nowadays |
| 13:30.51 | mikma | When will we see AceTip? |
| 13:30.55 | Iceroth | i'd really like my alt-f4 to close application instead of trying to launch some installer >.< |
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| 13:31.29 | Iceroth | i couldn't give a crap about all those fancy pancy extra buttons, i'd just want the ordinary ones to work |
| 13:31.47 | mitch0 | next time get a cheaper / less featurefull kb :) |
| 13:31.58 | mitch0 | HP or IBM ones are usually good enough |
| 13:32.10 | Iceroth | i'd really like it to be wireless though |
| 13:32.25 | mitch0 | but for the mice, my advice is till logitech |
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| 13:32.41 | Iceroth | yeah probably, couldn't get used to MS mouse i tried some time ago :-/ |
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| 13:33.43 | kenlyric | logitech knows how to make a middle mouse button. Microsoft does not. |
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| 13:34.35 | Iceroth | heh, one guy had "close application" bound to mouse button, i tried how the mouse feel and accidentially pushed the button, way too sensitive for me, we got a coaster |
| 13:35.31 | alext | Iceroth: def a logitech issue, I am the unfortunate owner of a mx5000 combo running on vista |
| 13:35.42 | alext | same behaviour on xp sp2 |
| 13:35.50 | alext | constant disconnects |
| 13:36.11 | Iceroth | http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/board/message?board.id=general&thread.id=3963&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 <-- the thread |
| 13:36.25 | alext | they screwed up the mx5000 though, there is a class action lawsuit in the works. I doubt it will go through but the fact a lawyer is looking at it says enough |
| 13:38.31 | sylvanaar | Mikk so there is an onClick, and isChecked? |
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| 13:39.16 | Mikk | sylvanaar: yes. on groups. |
| 13:39.24 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#group |
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| 13:39.34 | mitch0 | hm. why can't I resurrect my previously deleted addon by specifying a revision? |
| 13:41.00 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296450996&postId=2961650113&sid=1#25 <-lol |
| 13:41.12 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r59 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua libs): TinyTip: Removed Dongle from TinyTip proper, as it only needs like 5 lines of code. (http://thrae-wow.codegoogle.com/svn/) |
| 13:41.33 | Fisker- | dongle? |
| 13:41.38 | Fisker- | In my /trunk/? |
| 13:41.40 | Fisker- | :P |
| 13:41.45 | kenlyric | hot |
| 13:41.53 | erb | any bigwigs procs here? |
| 13:41.58 | Thrae | ~dongle |
| 13:41.59 | purl | i guess dongle is An integrated library with the goal of providing an addon framework as lightweight as possible, putting the burden on authors to implement most things they should be implementing themselves. You can get more information at http://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle |
| 13:42.12 | erb | there's nothing in my fubar/bigwigs>pluging menu for soem reason |
| 13:42.24 | erb | i've upgraded/installed the latest bigwigsbossmods.zip from files.wowace.com |
| 13:42.28 | erb | <- confused =0 |
| 13:42.44 | sylvanaar | mikk ok, i added it to all of prat's module options |
| 13:43.10 | Fisker- | i know what dongle is Thrae :P |
| 13:43.13 | Gnarfoz | <mikma> When will we see AceTip? <-- good question ^^ |
| 13:43.25 | vhaarr | erb: Do you have Lua errors enabled? |
| 13:43.41 | erb | afaik yes |
| 13:43.43 | Mikk | mikma: That'd be TinyTipRipoff tbh |
| 13:43.44 | erb | is that default? |
| 13:43.51 | Thrae | Now TinyTip uses No Libraries |
| 13:43.51 | Mikk | no |
| 13:44.16 | Thrae | TinyTip proper doesn't NEED Libraries, it only uses ADDON_LOADED and PLAYER_LOGIN as events, no database, no slash commands |
| 13:44.23 | vhaarr | erb: No. |
| 13:44.27 | vhaarr | erb: It defaults to Off. |
| 13:44.59 | Thrae | TinyTipCore will have the Database and Slash Commands, as well as the evil, evil Dongle. |
| 13:45.24 | erb | vhaar: where would I turn the lua error notification on? |
| 13:45.45 | vhaarr | erb: You download BugSack+!BugGrabber from files.wowace.com, or go to Interface options and toggle it there. |
| 13:46.03 | CIA-22 | 03takadi * r40699 10Henge/ (14 files in 10 dirs): Henge: Switch to PeriodicTable-3.0 |
| 13:46.23 | Gandharva | Is this error related to LightHeaded or SSPVP or both? http://ace.pastey.net/57127 |
| 13:46.24 | Thrae | vhaarr: BugSack+!BugGrabber doesn't enable Lua Errors for you |
| 13:46.30 | mikma | TinyRipoff |
| 13:46.37 | vhaarr | Thrae: Sure it does, as far as the user cares about it. |
| 13:46.50 | Thrae | vhaarr: Well, it doesn't respond to message("Foo"), I know that :D |
| 13:46.52 | Josh_Borke | Gandharva: SSPVP |
| 13:46.58 | Josh_Borke | Gandharva: where'd you get that version? |
| 13:47.15 | Athou | ckknight: ping? |
| 13:47.17 | Gandharva | LightHeaded or SSPVP? |
| 13:47.33 | Josh_Borke | well, it says it's from SSPVP\extras\config.lua:12 |
| 13:47.37 | Josh_Borke | so SSPVP |
| 13:47.56 | Mikk | mikma: TinyRip has been suggested. And while it's a kickass name for those of us that know about the addon already, it sucks ass for newcomers =/ |
| 13:48.09 | Josh_Borke | RinyTip |
| 13:48.13 | mikma | i have idea |
| 13:48.21 | mikma | how about, don't rip it off and use TinyTip |
| 13:48.25 | Josh_Borke | mikma: i do too. why don't you stfu? |
| 13:48.27 | alext | TeenyTip |
| 13:48.28 | Josh_Borke | :-P |
| 13:48.29 | alext | ;X |
| 13:48.38 | alext | MicroTip |
| 13:48.39 | mikma | Josh_Borke: because you don't own the world |
| 13:48.48 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296371062&postId=2961650149&sid=1#55 |
| 13:48.48 | Fisker- | hohoho |
| 13:48.49 | Josh_Borke | it's true, i don't |
| 13:48.59 | mikma | bush does |
| 13:49.09 | Gandharva | Josh_Borke: SSPVP Version is from here: http://shadowed-wow.googlecode.com/svn |
| 13:49.11 | Mikk | thrae owns tinytip and he's making a new version of it. end of story. |
| 13:49.19 | Mikk | if the old version lives on, it'll be under a new name |
| 13:50.00 | Josh_Borke | Gandharva: i believe there is still work being done on OptionHouse |
| 13:50.11 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40700 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Added the onClick and isChecked functions to the root of each addon's options. This is equivalent to the current "toggle" option found on each modules' menu. |
| 13:50.50 | Thrae | Mikk: The new version will have all the features of the old version and more, and these features will actually work correctly, unlike the old version, so I don't know why anyone would make their own "TinyRip" except to spite me ;) TinyTip was never an Ace Addon anyway. |
| 13:51.14 | erb | oh to get back to the bigwigs issue |
| 13:51.29 | erb | i gotta turn errors on so i can see why the plugin list isnt there i suppose |
| 13:51.30 | Josh_Borke | Gandharva: but to fix your error, you can obtain Optionhouse (standalone) from http://dongle.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/OptionHouse (i think) |
| 13:51.38 | erb | maybe its interacting with another mod or something |
| 13:51.41 | cladhaire | Gandharva: You should contact the author, instead of #wowoace |
| 13:51.49 | Mikk | Thrae: Oho, I was under the impression that the new tinytip would be less featureful than the old one |
| 13:51.50 | cladhaire | Shadowed would be able to fix it |
| 13:51.55 | Thrae | Mikk: It isn't because the old version uses AceHook that I'm recoding it, it's because the old version sucks, so I'm recoding it |
| 13:51.55 | cladhaire | but if you're using the svn versino |
| 13:52.08 | cladhaire | its going to be broken |
| 13:52.21 | cladhaire | because its not released yet. |
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| 13:53.03 | GnancyWK | Thrae: wil you be hosting it on google code and/or the ace SVN? |
| 13:53.06 | Thrae | Mikk: The difference between TinyTip v1 and TinyTip v2 (the new one) will be that the database and slash commands will be in a separate, optional addon (going back to the original TinyTip of long ago). "TinyTipExtras" will be recoded into TinyTipModules. |
| 13:53.08 | Gandharva | cladhaire: I did. Just wanted to know what addon causes the error. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4569 |
| 13:53.17 | mikma | and |
| 13:53.23 | erb | what does tinytip/tinyrip do? |
| 13:53.24 | mikma | TinyTip v2 will rock your cock off |
| 13:53.29 | mikma | there is no TinyRip |
| 13:53.30 | Kalman| | Thrae: Will extras like buffs actually work? |
| 13:53.30 | Gandharva | Josh_Borke: I give it a try. Thanks for the link! |
| 13:53.34 | cladhaire | Gandharva: its SSPVP that causes it, because you're using the svn version |
| 13:53.37 | Thrae | Kalman|: When I make them work, yes. |
| 13:53.41 | mikma | the'res only TinyTip and Thrae <3 |
| 13:53.42 | cladhaire | self inflicted wounds, so to speak |
| 13:53.45 | Mikk | Thrae: Kewl. Now I only get to gripe about not being able to WAU it :> |
| 13:53.47 | Kalman| | Thrae: Sweet. Let me know when. :) |
| 13:53.48 | erb | well whats it do :) |
| 13:54.10 | Thrae | GnancyWK: http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/ |
| 13:54.19 | GnancyWK | thank you Thrae |
| 13:54.27 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 13:54.31 | cladhaire | Are you fucking serious? |
| 13:54.31 | cladhaire | http://code.google.com/p/wow-perfectraid/issues/detail?id=132 |
| 13:55.03 | Shirik | rofl |
| 13:55.09 | mikma | cladhaire: ROFL |
| 13:55.11 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:55.14 | Josh_Borke | ROFL |
| 13:55.17 | GnancyWK | hehe |
| 13:55.18 | Industrial | AHAHAHAHAHA |
| 13:55.21 | Industrial | that |
| 13:55.22 | Industrial | is |
| 13:55.28 | Industrial | epic!roflzor!!oneone |
| 13:55.38 | Mikk | Goes to show how many people depend 100% on WAU for their addon needs |
| 13:55.47 | Mikk | Got plenty of guildies that refuse to use stuff they can't WAU |
| 13:55.58 | Josh_Borke | mikk: that's just stupid and ignorant |
| 13:56.00 | cladhaire | yep |
| 13:56.02 | wobin | yes well people can be irritating =P |
| 13:56.02 | cladhaire | i dont want those users. |
| 13:56.42 | Mikk | This reminds me that I haven't updated praid in months |
| 13:56.57 | krka | plz fix cladhaire |
| 13:57.03 | Mikk | hehe |
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| 13:57.24 | krka | wtb apt-get thingy for wow addons |
| 13:57.28 | cladhaire | if it works for you, no need to update =) |
| 13:57.40 | [Ammo] | krka: there are several commandline scripts |
| 13:57.46 | erb | sup deltron |
| 13:57.47 | [Ammo] | although they're mainly for wowace site |
| 13:57.53 | wobin | yeah |
| 13:57.54 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r60 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Should work again. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
| 13:57.59 | wobin | I want one that works for them all =) |
| 13:58.20 | krka | would fit nicely with apt |
| 13:58.26 | krka | you could just add different sites to sources |
| 13:58.39 | krka | would handle dependencies so you wouldnt have to embed stuff |
| 13:58.42 | Mikk | wobin: WUU |
| 13:58.52 | wobin | wah? |
| 13:59.10 | Kalman| | wobin: Windows ... something Updater. WUU, universal updater. |
| 13:59.18 | wobin | I run ubuntu |
| 13:59.25 | wobin | thus the apt-get request =) |
| 13:59.27 | pb_ee1 | (I know I talk a lot about it today, but...) the objective of my article is to avoid these stupid things :p |
| 13:59.37 | Mellow_ | or some pretty perl script |
| 13:59.43 | nevcairiel | WUU, WUU Universal Updater .. GNU Style :P |
| 13:59.43 | Josh_Borke | http://wowi.pastey.net/57129 |
| 14:00.08 | Josh_Borke | my own homebrew updater :-D |
| 14:00.11 | Mikk | tbh it wouldn't be hard to set up sites to support apt |
| 14:00.28 | Industrial | I have this thingy, its called look-on-the-site-and-download-it |
| 14:00.30 | Industrial | its the shit |
| 14:00.32 | wobin | I tried looking up how to get it |
| 14:00.35 | wobin | working |
| 14:00.35 | Mikk | Industrial: takes too long :P |
| 14:00.44 | mitch0 | industrial: it's the shit indeed |
| 14:00.47 | wobin | Industrial: meh, what's the point =P |
| 14:00.48 | Industrial | Mikk; then you probably dont care about what updated |
| 14:01.09 | pb_ee1 | How are the dependencies "found" by the new WowAceUpdater? |
| 14:01.10 | wobin | but couldn't find any useful information on how to set up something like that |
| 14:01.20 | wobin | from the toc |
| 14:01.21 | Industrial | rss works fine too |
| 14:01.21 | wobin | I imagine |
| 14:01.22 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:01.26 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 rss |
| 14:01.27 | vrak | i don't think most people really give a shit about why or what was updated; only that it is and now works [better] |
| 14:01.30 | wobin | Industrial: No it doesn't |
| 14:01.37 | wobin | It takes too long |
| 14:01.40 | Mikk | wobin: then again, I'd pwn j00 if you started apting from my site.. "Here, take a new version of the kernel, pre-packed with a nice little rootkit" |
| 14:01.43 | wobin | I want one command to update my addons |
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| 14:02.06 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: RSS? And how is this implemented? I mean, do the authors need to do something? |
| 14:02.10 | wobin | Why should I waste valuable gaming time going through one website after another? |
| 14:02.13 | Industrial | wobin; they work now, you update because you want the new feature (that you already know about) |
| 14:02.25 | Industrial | wobin; or to patch the bug youalready know about |
| 14:02.31 | erb | wobin: wowaceupdater.exe ? |
| 14:02.32 | Mikk | Unfortunately, Joe User can't use RSS |
| 14:02.33 | Industrial | if not then its no real use updating |
| 14:02.39 | Industrial | its just addiction. |
| 14:02.40 | mitch0 | industrial: actually, it's like "patch hits" |
| 14:02.43 | sylvanaar | wobin, if you mean using feed aggregation and that crap - you are right, but wau just parses the feed's xml directly |
| 14:02.49 | Kalman| | Industrial: That's silly. Some of my favorite addon features have been things added to things I already use that I didn't know about. |
| 14:03.01 | Industrial | Kalman|; yeah you read it on the site |
| 14:03.02 | wobin | Industrial: Your point? |
| 14:03.10 | Kalman| | Industrial: Why would I waste my time doing that? |
| 14:03.16 | wobin | Exactly |
| 14:03.33 | wobin | Why don't you play WoW by yelling 1s and 0s down the telephone line? |
| 14:03.36 | wobin | Cause you don't have to =P |
| 14:03.40 | Industrial | I dont understand why you would want to update addons without knowing what changed |
| 14:03.55 | mitch0 | 'cos the patch broke them |
| 14:04.02 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: I mean, for example an addon needs AceOO-2.0, how does WowAceUpdater know it only needs to download Ace2? |
| 14:04.03 | Elkano | wobin, I don't? ups... |
| 14:04.04 | sylvanaar | Industrial same reason you update shit on your pc |
| 14:04.15 | Thrae | wobin: I communicated with a modem once by yelling nonsense at it |
| 14:04.24 | erb | thrae: same |
| 14:04.24 | wobin | Thrae: Did it talk back? |
| 14:04.30 | Industrial | sylvanaar; only things I update automatically are virus signature databases etc |
| 14:04.35 | erb | back in like 93 when aol was still on dos |
| 14:04.39 | erb | dialup was real loud |
| 14:04.45 | erb | i use to yell at it |
| 14:04.51 | Kalman| | Industrial: Two reasons: one, because I don't mind dealing with occasional bugs, so bleeding versions are fine by me, I can help with bug reports. Two, because I assume that updated versions have new features, and I generally am curious what they are. |
| 14:04.54 | wobin | Industrial: Again, your point? |
| 14:05.05 | erb | aol was probably the coolest dos program ever though |
| 14:05.19 | erb | you had no clue you were in dos by looking at it |
| 14:05.22 | wobin | How does wanting ease of use invalidate your download method? |
| 14:05.32 | Kalman| | erb: The version that ran on top of PC-GEOS? |
| 14:05.39 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 well, it can. but the rss feed doesnt handle those correctly atm I think. But its not important since you already have !!!SAL |
| 14:05.40 | wobin | You're unfortunately not contributing whatsoever to the conversation |
| 14:05.43 | erb | holy shit pc-geos |
| 14:05.44 | erb | lol |
| 14:05.51 | erb | kalman this ran on normal dos |
| 14:05.55 | Higdur | the bug in PitBull mentioned in the latest version, is that just the crash on login in raids or is it something more serious? |
| 14:06.00 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: i'm not using !!!SAL :P |
| 14:06.04 | Kalman| | erb: The AOL I recall ran in a PC-GEOS layer on top of DOS. |
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| 14:06.06 | Mikk | pb_ee1: An updater would just look in the embeds and see "Ace2" listed. Not "Ace-OO" |
| 14:06.07 | erb | pitbull looks real friggen nice |
| 14:06.08 | Josh_Borke | Higdur: 2.1.2 has been released |
| 14:06.08 | wobin | Higdur: Should be fixed with the patch |
| 14:06.22 | Mikk | pb_ee1: the X-Embeds in the TOC, that is |
| 14:06.29 | pb_ee1 | Haaaa |
| 14:06.33 | Higdur | here in EU it hasn't :) |
| 14:06.34 | erb | i gave pitbul a shot and it lagged the shit out of my raid |
| 14:06.35 | pb_ee1 | Then I need to update my AddOn xD |
| 14:06.36 | sylvanaar | Mikk there is a way, its via the X-AceLibrary TOC entries |
| 14:06.38 | erb | so i gave it soem time an updated |
| 14:06.43 | erb | than it lagged the shit out of my raid again |
| 14:06.46 | erb | no more pitbul for me :( |
| 14:06.57 | Mikk | sylvanaar: the point is that the updater wouldn't want to know about AceOO. It'd only want "Ace2" |
| 14:07.02 | Industrial | wobin; my point is that you (in general) dont really care about the addons and what changed when you push that one button to update everything in one go |
| 14:07.09 | wobin | And? |
| 14:07.17 | Industrial | theres no and |
| 14:07.18 | wobin | That's not a point |
| 14:07.19 | Kalman| | Industrial: So, in your case, don't use it. |
| 14:07.23 | wobin | That's an opinion |
| 14:07.27 | wobin | Exactly |
| 14:07.31 | Mikk | No, I don't care to run around and check changelogs for all my ~100 addons |
| 14:07.34 | sylvanaar | Mikk that;s how it could - but its a function of the rss feed not the updaters |
| 14:07.35 | Higdur | so for my raid tonight do I need to revert to the old verison or not? |
| 14:07.37 | Mikk | I just want the latest and greatest |
| 14:07.38 | wobin | Why try to convince me I'm oh so wrong? |
| 14:07.48 | Kalman| | wobin: Because he's prickly. |
| 14:07.51 | wobin | When my view is equally as valid as yours? |
| 14:07.57 | wobin | Nah, Indy's just being an arse =P |
| 14:08.36 | Mikk | sylvanaar: Aye, the rss feed would need to extract X-Embeds and Dependencies to know what to download for a disembedded addon |
| 14:08.44 | wobin | Industrial: Quite literally, I have 344 folders in my addon folder |
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| 14:08.54 | Mikk | sylvanaar: But I believe this is precisely what Kaelten is aiming for |
| 14:08.56 | wobin | Industrial: If I went around and updated them all by hand, I won't have time to play |
| 14:08.57 | sylvanaar | yeah, but !!!SAL is 99% of it |
| 14:09.06 | wobin | sylvanaar: Exactly |
| 14:09.09 | Mikk | sylvanaar: Aye but he wants to do away with SAL |
| 14:09.16 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 14:09.17 | Thrae | Problem: WAU is used as an excuse to use wowace SVN as a release platform. I wish people would at least tag their release (stable) versions, along with using tag'd stable library versions (and change the zip script to support this). That way people can choose to only update to the latest stable release. |
| 14:09.31 | wobin | Thrae: Agreed |
| 14:09.33 | Mikk | sylvanaar: problem with SAL is shit is ending up in it now that doesn't even belong there.. like libs used by only 1 or 2 addons. |
| 14:09.44 | mitch0 | thrae: agreed |
| 14:09.51 | wobin | Hopefully they're all lod =P |
| 14:09.55 | sylvanaar | everything in SAL can be disabled |
| 14:09.58 | Mikk | Thrae: Kaelten is adding support for tagged stables in WAU2 |
| 14:10.10 | Mikk | sylvanaar: I don't bloody want it on my HD to begin with. WoW's still scanning it all on startup :P |
| 14:10.14 | vhaarr | erb: So, got any errors for me? |
| 14:10.28 | Thrae | Mikk: Ahh, cool. Maybe PitBull can actually be usuable by most people, since ckknight breaks it multiple times per day adding and optimizing ;) |
| 14:10.34 | wobin | Industrial: How many addons do you run? |
| 14:10.51 | wobin | That are written by other people |
| 14:11.02 | Industrial | 19 |
| 14:11.03 | Industrial | oh |
| 14:11.11 | Iceroth | speaking of pitbull, has there been any news about the crash&burn thing from blue side? |
| 14:11.16 | sylvanaar | Mikk yeah, i know but disabled addons which aren't loaded are a really minor issue |
| 14:11.18 | Industrial | 11 |
| 14:11.21 | CIA-22 | 03erwin * r40701 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFuLocale-deDE.lua: FuBar_AmmoFu: corrected deDE translation for thrown weapons |
| 14:11.26 | wobin | Iceroth: servers haven't come up after patch yet |
| 14:11.29 | alext | is that pitbull group/raid crash situational? |
| 14:11.29 | wobin | Industrial: And I have more |
| 14:11.31 | Mikk | Industrial: I have 217 dirs in my addons directory |
| 14:11.41 | alext | because I was raiding last night with the latest pitbull as of 6pm PST |
| 14:11.44 | alext | with no problems |
| 14:11.51 | nevcairiel | meh my world server just crashed |
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| 14:11.54 | wobin | Industrial: So can you honestly believe I will go around to each and every page of those 350ish addons to check if they've updated? |
| 14:11.56 | nevcairiel | time for maintenance :( |
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| 14:12.04 | Industrial | why update if theres nothing wrong with it? you may even not want to update |
| 14:12.10 | nevcairiel | wobin: favorites on addon sites =P |
| 14:12.11 | Industrial | but youll never know |
| 14:12.12 | wobin | You don't update your addons? |
| 14:12.17 | wobin | nevcairiel: That's cheating though |
| 14:12.19 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r40702 10ChatLog/ChatLog.toc: ChatLog: Updating X-Embeds. |
| 14:12.21 | Industrial | i do when they have new features i want |
| 14:12.27 | Industrial | or they seriously break |
| 14:12.28 | wobin | You need to go to the site of the addon and look and download |
| 14:12.31 | wobin | Indy says so |
| 14:12.39 | wobin | You have 11 |
| 14:12.44 | Kalman| | Industrial: That works for you, because you have 11 addons to check on. |
| 14:13.05 | Zeksie | alext, yes. same issue with all unit frame mods. works for some, not for others. entirely depends on where u log in, how many in raid, how many addons, addon memory used at time of frame creation, system memory, and probably a load of other variables. if it's not crashing for you, then count yourself lucky and don't worry too much about it. |
| 14:13.12 | wobin | Your method isn't even slightly possible for me |
| 14:13.17 | cladhaire | wobin: Why not sign up for favorites on wowinterface, then you are notified by email when an addon is updated |
| 14:13.22 | cladhaire | No need to "check" for updates |
| 14:13.23 | alext | Zeksie: sounds good |
| 14:13.23 | sylvanaar | 356 folders in my addons directory |
| 14:13.27 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r40703 10Percent/Percent.toc: Percent: Updating X-Embeds. |
| 14:13.30 | wobin | cladhaire: That's cheating though |
| 14:13.35 | cladhaire | dot dot dot? |
| 14:13.41 | Mikk | haha |
| 14:13.43 | cladhaire | making your life easier is cheating? |
| 14:13.43 | Industrial | or use the rss feed |
| 14:13.45 | Industrial | and filter |
| 14:13.52 | Mikk | rss? wowi has rss? |
| 14:13.55 | Industrial | hah |
| 14:13.55 | wobin | Industrial says I need to go to each page and check if it's updated and download from there |
| 14:13.57 | Industrial | like for ever? |
| 14:14.00 | wobin | Cause there's nothing wrong with that! |
| 14:14.10 | Industrial | wobin; I use the wowi rss feed |
| 14:14.13 | cladhaire | wobin: he's wrong. |
| 14:14.15 | wobin | cheater |
| 14:14.18 | Mikk | omg look, there's an RSS icon in my address bar |
| 14:14.22 | cladhaire | le sigh |
| 14:14.22 | wobin | That's my point =P |
| 14:14.29 | wobin | His method of updating doesn't work for me |
| 14:14.30 | Kalman| | cladhaire: Because, no offense, I don't need more email to sort through, and that's still more time consuming than a simple "Update installed". |
| 14:14.34 | Gnarfoz | cladhaire: where do I enable that, anyway? I have several favorites, but check the site each day to see if any are updated |
| 14:14.42 | cladhaire | Gnarfoz: User CP |
| 14:14.55 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: Just give wowi your email address and tell it to notify you about updated favorites |
| 14:14.58 | Industrial | wobin; but you dont know what updated when you push that button |
| 14:15.08 | cladhaire | Kalman|: Okay.. that's fine... but my addons aren't going on the ace svn |
| 14:15.09 | Kalman| | The issues with WAU aren't with the general idea, but with the lack of an option for "get stable". |
| 14:15.10 | Mikk | Sure I do |
| 14:15.12 | wobin | Industrial: That's what changelogs are for |
| 14:15.15 | Gnarfoz | must have missed that, then :> |
| 14:15.21 | cladhaire | Kalman|: lol.. no the issues are much more far reaching than that. |
| 14:15.22 | Mikk | Kalman|: We all agree on that I think. But that's being fixed at some point by Kaelten. |
| 14:15.32 | cladhaire | yep, in theory |
| 14:15.46 | Zeksie | sure Kalman, but that's entirely the same as microsoft wanting everyone to use windows and windows update, without any care for what they actually have on their own pc, they just want to blindly update it all... lalala.. |
| 14:15.50 | Industrial | never |
| 14:15.51 | Industrial | mind |
| 14:15.55 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 14:16.05 | Fisker- | did someone post CP? |
| 14:16.06 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:16.08 | Fisker- | User CP :( |
| 14:16.13 | cladhaire | Zeksie: couldn't have said it better than myself. |
| 14:16.14 | wobin | \o/ |
| 14:16.15 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:16.17 | Fisker- | User CP?! |
| 14:16.17 | Fisker- | :O |
| 14:16.33 | Kalman| | Zeksie: Windows Update's a perfectly good idea. Implementation may be off, but fundamentally, it is *good* to give end-users a simple method to update. |
| 14:16.37 | Fisker- | People gonna get V& |
| 14:17.15 | Industrial | Fisker-; #4chan |
| 14:17.17 | Industrial | ;P |
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| 14:17.24 | sylvanaar | Zeksie thats how files.wowace.com is meant to be used presently (its still just a way to to take the load off the svn) |
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| 14:18.06 | Mikk | Except joe user thinks WAU is teh sex and uses it for all their updating :> |
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| 14:18.17 | Zeksie | yes. i know. that wasn't the point. the point was people not wanting to use non WUA addons simply because they would have to do a little work to update them |
| 14:18.40 | Kalman| | Zeksie: So? There's nothing wrong with saying "it isn't worth the extra work to me to have this addon." |
| 14:18.42 | wobin | No not from the original arguement |
| 14:18.53 | Kalman| | There's something wrong with saying "All addons that don't let me use WAU to update them suck." |
| 14:18.58 | Higdur | who's the Bartender3 dev, I forgot >.< |
| 14:19.27 | Josh_Borke | Higdur: nevcairiel |
| 14:19.38 | Zeksie | this was not my point either. was following the previous conversation which you seem to have lost track of. i never said either was good, just made the comparison to M$.... and god how i wish i didn't |
| 14:19.56 | Higdur | ty |
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| 14:20.08 | sylvanaar | Kalman| - there is always just asking hey can i put my mod here on the svn too... |
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| 14:20.18 | Mikk2 | ~lart freenode |
| 14:20.18 | purl | changes freenode's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 14:20.41 | pb_ee1 | Humm |
| 14:20.42 | Kalman| | sylvanaar: I'm not sure I follow. |
| 14:20.51 | pb_ee1 | I just updated my AddOns using the last release of WowAceUpdater and I've got a problem |
| 14:20.53 | CIA-22 | 03erwin * r40704 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-deDE.lua: Automaton: updated deDE gossip translation |
| 14:20.58 | wobin | The original discussion was figuring out a way to have apt-get pull the addons |
| 14:20.58 | wobin | more of a "how to centralise the issue" than anything |
| 14:20.59 | pb_ee1 | I suppose one X-Embeds is not correct |
| 14:21.01 | wobin | I'd like to be able to hear about a cool addon and say "apt-get install OMGBEAR" |
| 14:21.05 | wobin | Even if I see it on a site for download |
| 14:21.11 | wobin | the command line is simply easier for me |
| 14:21.17 | wobin | And Industrial: Generally I know what changes in the addons I want updated, because I keep an eye on the threads about them on the forum |
| 14:21.24 | pb_ee1 | It just downloaded and installed "GloryLib" and no AddOn at all uses it |
| 14:21.35 | sylvanaar | Kalman| rather than complain about it, authors could just join in |
| 14:21.39 | krka | wobin: exactly. and then you could put 3-4 different site listings into the sources-file |
| 14:21.41 | wobin | It was probably put in SAL |
| 14:21.48 | Mikk | wobin: The problem is that the addon sites don't really want to do that. Then they'd just provide free download bandwidth with zero revenue -- noone would be seeing their ads. |
| 14:21.51 | Kalman| | sylvanaar: I'm not comfortable with telling authors where to put their work. |
| 14:21.58 | krka | you could probably even make an intelligent apt-get clone that scans the sites for addons |
| 14:22.00 | Thrae | sylvanaar: You're right -- why should users have all the fun complaining? Everyone complain! :D |
| 14:22.03 | cladhaire | and i'm not comfortable having my work on the ace svn |
| 14:22.14 | Kalman| | Right. Which is why I'm not comfortable telling authors where to put their stuff. |
| 14:22.16 | cladhaire | its been broken by a "zomg feature addition" before, and i have too many users who rely on me to deal with that |
| 14:22.17 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 14:22.18 | cladhaire | =) |
| 14:22.32 | wobin | IT's more a pull than a push thing |
| 14:22.34 | sylvanaar | cladhaire ok, so you dont - your choice |
| 14:22.42 | pb_ee1 | My questions is: are the X-Embeds not a problem sometimes? I mean it should have not downloaded GloryLib but it just did |
| 14:22.45 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: ... yes.. but can't you see the current system is horribly broken? |
| 14:22.53 | cladhaire | and it needs to be decentralized off the ace svn? |
| 14:22.56 | cladhaire | for the good of all users and devs? |
| 14:22.58 | Mikk | pb_ee1: GloryLib is in StandaloneLibraries |
| 14:23.11 | Kalman| | I do wish there was a one-button way for me to pull any of your updates *without* requiring that you be on the SVN. At some point I'll screw around with WUU for this, but haven't gotten around to it yet. |
| 14:23.22 | Mikk | cladhaire: I'm not seeing the problem either tbfh. If there's someone doing stupid shit on the ace svn, they need to have access revoked. |
| 14:23.28 | pb_ee1 | That's not what I mean. I'm not using !!!SAL, and thus I update manually each of my libs |
| 14:23.30 | Mikk | I love being able to make small changes to other peoples' stuff. With their blessing ofc. |
| 14:23.36 | cladhaire | Mikk: okay, so remove ckknight's access |
| 14:23.39 | cladhaire | how about that? |
| 14:23.46 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 use SAL plz |
| 14:23.48 | cladhaire | the point is |
| 14:23.59 | cladhaire | WHY can't you just have an application that does apt-get and have sources, just like was proposed. |
| 14:24.10 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Is it better? I have been using "manual" libs for two years now |
| 14:24.18 | cladhaire | have a single server where people can dash their info files |
| 14:24.20 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 yes |
| 14:24.21 | cladhaire | and let people apt-get |
| 14:24.28 | cladhaire | without enforcing a specific SVN server on them? |
| 14:24.30 | wobin | way back before there was libs? =) |
| 14:24.45 | pb_ee1 | Bah |
| 14:24.46 | cladhaire | to continue to redesign a system based around a broken system, seems silly when there is a clearly better alternative. |
| 14:24.47 | sylvanaar | just install it using WAU |
| 14:24.56 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: i believe mikk put it best, the websites would not be able to generate revenue |
| 14:24.56 | Mikk | cladhaire: or just have a central server that has a list of servers |
| 14:25.03 | cladhaire | yes |
| 14:25.04 | cladhaire | that's what I'm saying |
| 14:25.07 | pb_ee1 | Actually I like to only have the Libs I need, even if I know that the libs in SAL will only load if they are used :P |
| 14:25.09 | cladhaire | and you'r ejust saying "suck up and put your shit on the svn" |
| 14:25.19 | wobin | was he? |
| 14:25.23 | Kalman| | cladhaire: I must have missed the clearly better alternative. |
| 14:25.28 | wobin | oh |
| 14:25.30 | cladhaire | Kalman|: dot dot dot |
| 14:25.32 | cladhaire | i just said it. |
| 14:25.45 | Kalman| | cladhaire: I have no clue what that is. |
| 14:25.48 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 well - then you gotta do some toc fixing |
| 14:25.52 | cladhaire | read the damn logs |
| 14:25.55 | cladhaire | i dont have time to repeat everything |
| 14:25.56 | Mikk | Of course, you'd have to generate an XML file that "some app" (WAU?) understands and have it up on your server.. but that's fine |
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| 14:26.02 | cladhaire | gotta run to a meeting |
| 14:26.05 | cladhaire | Mikk: IU'm fine with that |
| 14:26.06 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Cool, i'm going to check where is the mistake :P |
| 14:26.17 | cladhaire | its better than putting my shit someone where someone can break it on demand and have it shipped out to 10,000 users before I get home from work. |
| 14:26.18 | Josh_Borke | (10:24:18 AM) cladhaire: have a single server where people can dash their info files |
| 14:26.20 | cladhaire | that is a BROKEN system. |
| 14:26.24 | Josh_Borke | (10:24:21 AM) cladhaire: and let people apt-get |
| 14:26.26 | Mikk | cladhaire: hehe |
| 14:26.33 | Mikk | cladhaire: I'll make sure to prod Kaelten about it next :> |
| 14:26.40 | cladhaire | no matter how you spin it =) |
| 14:26.41 | cladhaire | bbiab |
| 14:26.42 | Kalman| | cladhaire: I saw it the first time you said dot dot dot. I'm still clueless. Sorry. |
| 14:26.49 | Mellow_ | most of the sites(curse/wowi) has that xml, dont they? |
| 14:26.50 | clad|meeting | Kalman|: i can't help your lack of clue |
| 14:27.03 | Mikk | Mellow_: you wish :P |
| 14:27.04 | clad|meeting | clearly your problem, not my lack of description |
| 14:27.18 | Kalman| | I'm pretty sure that there's more information on dot dot dot, whatever the fuck that is, out there somewhere. |
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| 14:27.36 | Mikk | Kalman|: Problem with One Big SVN is that idiots can break stuff |
| 14:27.47 | clad|meeting | Kalman|: dot dot dot means... "..." |
| 14:27.50 | Kalman| | Mikk: I am not asking that question. I understand that. |
| 14:27.56 | clad|meeting | Kalman|: as in.. i'm stunned at you asking that question |
| 14:28.05 | clad|meeting | I spent time presenting an alternative |
| 14:28.08 | clad|meeting | that many others have |
| 14:28.09 | clad|meeting | and you say |
| 14:28.11 | Mikk | The Great Solution would be to use several SVNs when you feel it necessary. But still reap the benefits of WAU et al |
| 14:28.12 | sylvanaar | problem with 100 svns is there's noone to point out the idiots |
| 14:28.13 | clad|meeting | " I missed the better laternative" |
| 14:28.27 | clad|meeting | sylvanaar: that's something you manage, that's not a reason to keep using one svn |
| 14:28.33 | clad|meeting | Mikk: yep |
| 14:28.35 | Kalman| | clad|meeting: Go to your meeting, I have no desire to get into a fight with you over poor communication. |
| 14:28.39 | Mikk | sylvanaar: Obviously with separate access lists |
| 14:28.46 | mitch0 | mikk: actually, it's not caused by many ppl having access to the same svn, but buy addons relying on a lot of libs. a breakage in a lib means havoc |
| 14:28.54 | mitch0 | s/buy/by/ |
| 14:28.56 | clad|meeting | Kalman|: everyone else in the chat room got exactly what I was saying, I suggest you read back.. and anyone here could clarify the meaning of "dot dot dot" |
| 14:29.16 | Kalman| | clad|meeting: I misread your goddamn comment as meaning "dot dot dot" as some specific thing, rather than as an ellipsis. |
| 14:29.17 | wobin | Night everyone |
| 14:29.20 | Mikk | mitch0: Lib breakage is only one aspect of it... |
| 14:29.21 | Josh_Borke | nn wobin |
| 14:29.21 | Mikk | night wobs |
| 14:29.25 | mitch0 | so in that regard, decentralizing the dev is not the solution |
| 14:29.31 | Hjalte | [2007/06/19 16:14:11-1427-x1]: Prat\Prat.lua:2021: unexpected symbol near '!' - I'd be very happy if someone could correct that and upload to svn again :) |
| 14:29.33 | sylvanaar | clad|meeting im a change-the-world type too |
| 14:30.00 | clad|meeting | mitch0: ask the people who left the svn.. the issue wasn't relying on libs.. the issue was peopel changing out code and shipping it out to our users without asking |
| 14:30.07 | clad|meeting | when the rules clearly state that that shoudln't happen. |
| 14:30.08 | clad|meeting | brb |
| 14:30.24 | mitch0 | clad: well, that issue should be solved by /kick |
| 14:30.29 | Mikk | But, yeah, central ace lib breakage is more of a problem than it should be. Ckknight is a bit careless at times. |
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| 14:30.36 | mitch0 | clad: I haven't experienced that problem myself (yet) |
| 14:30.48 | Fritti | that's why WAU uses files.wowace instead of svn co right? |
| 14:30.48 | Josh_Borke | mikk: s/ at times././ |
| 14:30.56 | Fritti | that's why files.wowace was invented |
| 14:31.03 | pb_ee1 | mitch0: Same, maybe my AddOns are not good enough to be interesting :P |
| 14:31.06 | Mikk | Fritti: Aye, hence why it'd be nice for WAU to support polling from multiple sites |
| 14:31.15 | mitch0 | pb: :) |
| 14:31.18 | Fritti | so any other SVN in a hypothetical multi-WAU would have to set up some sort of similar system |
| 14:31.27 | nevcairiel | hm quick survey, 1) ability to drag spells onto buttons in combat or 2) keep buttons disabled and remove the annoying part ( empty buttons being clickable et al ) what would you prefer ? :p |
| 14:31.39 | Mikk | Fritti: yes, clearly =) |
| 14:31.43 | Josh_Borke | Fritti: i BELIEVE that files.wowace.com was generated to lessen the load on the server from copious amounts of checkouts (read lots of http requests) |
| 14:31.46 | Fritti | but that doesn't help the SVNs on google |
| 14:31.54 | Fritti | because those don't have files.wowace-like stuff |
| 14:31.58 | mitch0 | nev: I don't get option 2 |
| 14:32.06 | [dRaCo] | nev: 2 |
| 14:32.08 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: The problem comes from Prat |
| 14:32.10 | Mikk | Fritti: They can have some other release server that polls from the google SVNs |
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| 14:32.24 | [dRaCo] | nev: 1 would just lead to confusion |
| 14:32.30 | beerke | Anyone know how to set a tooltip on a spell button, without scanning the spellbook. According to wowwiki you need to :SetSpell(id, typ) where id refers to number in spell tab. Isn't there a way to easier set the tooltip depending on the highest rank of the spell ? |
| 14:32.30 | nevcairiel | mitch0: empty buttons will have a mouse-over and on-click animation |
| 14:32.35 | nevcairiel | but still be empty |
| 14:32.40 | Josh_Borke | why does everything have to be done through svn? are developers so lazy they can't created zips? |
| 14:32.46 | Fritti | Josh_Borke: yes |
| 14:32.48 | pb_ee1 | Prat: ## X-Embeds: Ace2, Babble-2.2, FuBarPlugin-2.0, GloryLib, DewdropLib, TabletLib, Deformat, SharedMediaLib |
| 14:32.58 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 i know |
| 14:33.03 | Fritti | witness the multiple non-released addons on the svn right now :) |
| 14:33.05 | wobin | Josh_Borke: I have to say, zips are annoying to maintain |
| 14:33.12 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Problem with that is it requires us to manually check for 200 updated addons. And that ain't happening :P |
| 14:33.25 | Josh_Borke | wobin: not when you properly tag your releases and only zip from there :-/ |
| 14:33.26 | mitch0 | nev: um. still don't get it :) count me out from the poll, I guess |
| 14:33.28 | Mikk | So Multi-target WAU = win? |
| 14:33.30 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Should I hange something or did I miss an info? :p |
| 14:33.33 | Fritti | Mikk: I'd say so |
| 14:34.00 | Fritti | and I second your ad-opinion -- maybe you could put in a banner for wowi / curse / etc :) |
| 14:34.02 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Oh, ok, you meant creating zips |
| 14:34.06 | wobin | Josh_Borke: It's still annoying to maintain |
| 14:34.18 | Chompers | noooooo |
| 14:34.23 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40705 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Lua is not C |
| 14:34.24 | Fritti | "buy gold while you wait for your addon to download!" |
| 14:34.27 | Fritti | or something |
| 14:34.42 | Mellow_ | Mikk: yes, but you could create your own updater, not so hard |
| 14:34.45 | Kalman| | Fritti: Trying to fairly distribute revenue to multiple sources through a single generator isn't really an easy problem. |
| 14:34.56 | Fritti | Kalman|: i wasn't being serious here |
| 14:34.59 | Mikk | hehe |
| 14:35.00 | wobin | maybe send a link to show? |
| 14:35.08 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r40706 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: |
| 14:35.08 | CIA-22 | Bartender3: commented :Enable() and :Disable() calls |
| 14:35.08 | CIA-22 | - empty buttons will again show the mouse-over and onclick animations, but they will still work in combat with 2.1.2 |
| 14:35.18 | wobin | "GRLZGRLZGRLZ" |
| 14:35.22 | Kalman| | Fritti: I was. If those guys are providing hosting, but not getting ad revenue, that hurts them. |
| 14:35.25 | Fritti | yes |
| 14:35.27 | Fritti | of course |
| 14:35.38 | Kalman| | A multi-target updater would cause exactly that. |
| 14:35.41 | Fritti | no |
| 14:35.47 | winkiller | it never ceases to amaze me how ads work |
| 14:35.55 | Fritti | not if that updater would only use sites on an opt-in basis |
| 14:36.02 | winkiller | I haven't clicked on a single google ad I think |
| 14:36.03 | Fritti | ie. search for site.com/multiwau.xml |
| 14:36.05 | nevcairiel | did anyone pastey the final patch notes yet somewhere? |
| 14:36.15 | wobin | winkiller: "Oh man, I'm -really- the 1 millionth customer?! That's great!" |
| 14:36.19 | Kalman| | Fritti: So it only hurts the ones who opt in? That's not a great solution. |
| 14:36.22 | mitch0 | nev: so which option was committed? :) |
| 14:36.32 | nevcairiel | second |
| 14:36.34 | winkiller | wobin:yeah, I just don't get it |
| 14:36.40 | sylvanaar | Mikk i dont know - chicken & egg - developers who can't work together want a tool that works their way as well i'd imagine |
| 14:36.43 | Fritti | Kalman|: how does Ace profit from it now then? |
| 14:36.46 | nevcairiel | no change in functionality to before, only cosmetic issues now |
| 14:36.50 | Kalman| | Fritti: WAU2 is getting ads. |
| 14:36.51 | Fritti | I don't see what that changes wrt WAU now? |
| 14:36.53 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: http://wowace.pastey.net/57131 |
| 14:37.03 | Fritti | ah, right |
| 14:37.06 | Fritti | that's new info for me |
| 14:37.27 | Fritti | then it gets harder for sure |
| 14:38.02 | Fritti | but not to burst your bubble, but what's to stop anyone from just writing their own files.wowace scraper? |
| 14:38.12 | Fritti | as you said it's doable for wowi / curse / etc right now |
| 14:38.27 | Fritti | s/you/someone/ as applicable |
| 14:38.32 | jme | nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/57132 |
| 14:38.36 | jme | just posted that |
| 14:39.18 | Kalman| | Fritti: Nothing, except social pressure; if it becomes a problem, then Kaelten would be forced to write some kind of auth layer and keep WAU2's source closed. |
| 14:39.25 | pb_ee1 | What is the point of WowAceUpdater downloading the X-Embeds automatically if users use !!!SAL? Is that because !!!SAL does not contain *all* libs? |
| 14:39.29 | Fritti | k, as long as that's clear |
| 14:39.42 | Josh_Borke | pb_ee1: correct |
| 14:39.44 | Mikk | pb_ee1: WAU does _not_ use X-Embeds atm |
| 14:39.52 | Josh_Borke | pb_ee1: SAL does not contain ALL libs |
| 14:39.57 | Mikk | pb_ee1: It WILL. And then SAL will be obsoleted. |
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| 14:40.29 | krka | Kalman|: yeah, but that's just like drm - ultimately useless |
| 14:40.50 | Fritti | heh, true, but I'd say nobody is *that* interested in removing adds from the updater :) |
| 14:40.58 | Fritti | ads* |
| 14:41.06 | Mikk | Fritti: you'd be surprised |
| 14:41.25 | wobin | all we can do for that is offer social pressure |
| 14:41.38 | wobin | if you see someone publishing a non-ad version tell them off |
| 14:41.42 | Kalman| | krka: DRM is another idea that's fine in theory, bad in practice. |
| 14:41.48 | Kalman| | (Yeah I said it.) |
| 14:42.08 | wobin | Tell them that wowace depends on the revenue from the ads to maintain the servers |
| 14:42.17 | Fritti | but anyway, so the problem becomes: there's a need for a single program that updates addons from various sources, while still providing those sources with ad revenue? |
| 14:42.18 | [Ammo] | there will also be 'this addon is unstable' tags in a special file |
| 14:42.39 | [Ammo] | so you can set it to stable, commit, and set it to unstable again commit and coontinue dev and people can download the last stable |
| 14:42.44 | Fritti | nice |
| 14:42.45 | wobin | "This addon, if you choose to accept it, will self destruct in 10 seconds...." |
| 14:43.23 | Fritti | might just want to split the revenu evenly then, I don't see any other real solution |
| 14:43.38 | mitch0 | ammo: wouldn't it be easier to just tag them? this setting/unsetting/committing magic sounds painful |
| 14:43.39 | Fritti | display one ad per source while downloading |
| 14:43.41 | Mikk | Kewl. So my little web swerver gets the same revenue as curse? |
| 14:43.50 | Fritti | Mikk: yes! :) |
| 14:43.58 | wobin | maybe by percentage of addons downloaded? |
| 14:44.07 | [Ammo] | mitch0: who cares, I'll never tag my addons as stable anyway :p |
| 14:44.07 | Fritti | good one |
| 14:44.10 | Kalman| | Fritti: Mikk beat me to it. And you can't necessarily divide by % of addons downloaded, either, since there are fixed costs that don't associate wll with scale. |
| 14:44.18 | Kalman| | s/wll/well |
| 14:44.19 | mitch0 | ammo: pff... |
| 14:44.26 | Fritti | Kalman|: sure |
| 14:44.31 | Fritti | but not *all* reveneu will be lost |
| 14:44.43 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 14:44.46 | Kalman| | Fritti: Sure, but if you're getting screwed by it, why would you opt in? |
| 14:44.52 | mitch0 | [ammo]: that's the problem with this whole ace bunch. irresponsible frats! /quit :) |
| 14:44.52 | Fritti | well |
| 14:44.55 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: That's not what I intended with the unstable setting. |
| 14:45.06 | Fritti | i believe that one of the reasons Ace is so succesfull is that it's got a single updater |
| 14:45.12 | Fritti | so it might lead to *more* revenue in the long run |
| 14:45.14 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: oh? |
| 14:45.18 | Fritti | having your addons available in such an updater |
| 14:45.30 | Kalman| | Fritti: So you're getting screwed out of a bigger portion of the pie, in the long run. |
| 14:45.30 | jme | is the macaceupdater developer in here? |
| 14:45.32 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: All addons you get from WAU are unstable, that's not the point. The point is that when you KNOW that an addon will BREAK OTHER THINGS, you flag it as unstable. |
| 14:45.32 | [Ammo] | well there will be some sort of stable tag in the .wau files |
| 14:45.38 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: I know, I suggested it. |
| 14:45.46 | [Ammo] | that's all I wanted to say |
| 14:46.01 | vhaarr | and then smakced kaelten until he made the file .wau with a ini-style format instead of filelist.wau, etc |
| 14:46.02 | Fritti | Kalman|: I don't follow? my reasoning is that you might get *more* downloaders total |
| 14:46.22 | krka | Kalman|: i disagree. i think drm is fundamentally broken in theory, but fairly effective in practice |
| 14:46.42 | Fisker- | haha |
| 14:46.48 | vhaarr | fairly effective in the sense that it prevents users from playing CD's in their CD players |
| 14:46.53 | Fisker- | i got Quake Wars beta by blackmailing fileplanet |
| 14:47.12 | krka | right |
| 14:47.41 | Kalman| | krka: It's completely ineffective in practice, since it causes more problems than it solves, mostly because people try to be so restrictive with it that legitimate users are inconvenienced. |
| 14:48.00 | |Kev| | jme: yes |
| 14:48.15 | jme | |Kev|: would that be you? |
| 14:48.18 | |Kev| | yes |
| 14:48.33 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r61 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Removed some code for colouring guildnames until I can figure out what the hell it did. Now your own guild members should be purple. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
| 14:48.40 | jme | |Kev|: feature request... could the date the addon was last updated be added as a display column? |
| 14:49.08 | Fritti | Kalman|: anyway I'm the first to admit that I don't know jack about the money involved or ad-revenue in general, so I'll shut up again -- while hoping that the multi-WAU will become a reality one day, and supportive of all sites :) |
| 14:49.33 | cladhaire | anyone here have wiki admin privs? |
| 14:49.35 | |Kev| | jme: that's quite sensible. MAU needs a lot of work, and I stopped playing wow for 5 months or so |
| 14:49.51 | jme | |Kev|: ah. |
| 14:50.07 | |Kev| | jme: I've started playing a bit this week |
| 14:50.24 | jme | |Kev|: that's cool. :) |
| 14:50.29 | jme | i'm trying to cut back some, heh |
| 14:50.33 | Fritti | cladhaire: congrats on the book |
| 14:50.34 | sylvanaar | Mikk, there is an option in WAU to use the dependancy info from the rss feed - i changed its default setting for a day |
| 14:50.40 | cladhaire | Fritti: thanks. |
| 14:50.41 | |Kev| | so I'll try and get back on the mau case |
| 14:50.52 | jme | |Kev|: awesome, thanks :) |
| 14:50.54 | |Kev| | sorry, my ssh session is lagging horribly |
| 14:50.57 | Mikk | sylvanaar: ooo kewl |
| 14:51.02 | |Kev| | could you add an issue to the tracker please? |
| 14:51.08 | jme | |Kev|: what's the url? |
| 14:51.13 | |Kev| | there's a long list there of things for me to do :) |
| 14:51.17 | |Kev| | erm, 2s |
| 14:51.40 | |Kev| | http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/issues/list |
| 14:54.51 | sylvanaar | Mikk it remains to be seen |
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| 14:55.00 | jme | |Kev|: http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/issues/detail?id=46, however it wouldn't let me change the type and listed it as a defect. :/ |
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| 14:55.31 | |Kev| | thanks |
| 14:55.37 | jme | |Kev|: np, thank you |
| 14:55.47 | |Kev| | there's an annoying segfault at the moment, which is caused by the only patch anyone's ever submitted to mau |
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| 14:55.56 | trh | don't know if anyone cares, but DeuceLog is broken due to some changes in Parser-3.0 |
| 14:56.05 | |Kev| | it was supposed to make it more robust, instead it causes segfaults, 'yay' |
| 14:56.16 | jme | robust segfaults! |
| 14:56.33 | jme | more coffee... brb |
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| 14:57.04 | trh | kev: that's why type-safe languages are so great ;) |
| 14:57.24 | |Kev| | trh: I don't think that would have any affect on this |
| 14:57.46 | |Kev| | better coding would have |
| 14:57.51 | trh | kev: if you can't write to memory directcly, no segfaults... more likely exceptions ;) |
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| 14:58.41 | pb_ee1|tmp | Got disconnected, didn't see your answers :( |
| 14:59.24 | |Kev| | trh: I use segfault ill-advisedly to cover any crash or fatal exception |
| 14:59.28 | vrak | does anyone have a good suggestion for an addon that can be set to clean up (delete) certain specific items? |
| 15:00.29 | [dRaCo] | garbagefu should be able to do that |
| 15:01.35 | Josh_Borke | /whoi |Kev| |
| 15:01.51 | Josh_Borke | not kevorkian :-/ |
| 15:04.55 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40707 10ItemValue/ (9 files): |
| 15:04.55 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: initial commit |
| 15:04.55 | CIA-22 | - Flexible itemvalue calculation based on multiple sets and types. |
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| 15:05.33 | |Kev| | Josh_Borke: Dr. Kevin Smith, reporting for duty :) |
| 15:05.53 | jme | two cups of coffee and four ibuprofin later and i still have a headache :( |
| 15:08.21 | cladhaire | and the saga continues: http://code.google.com/p/wow-perfectraid/issues/detail?id=132 |
| 15:08.28 | cladhaire | "meh. mod deleted. LOL" |
| 15:08.34 | cladhaire | is that supposed to make me sad? |
| 15:08.47 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 15:08.50 | nevcairiel | thats normal |
| 15:08.55 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40708 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: clean up and plug leak |
| 15:09.11 | nevcairiel | i get that all the time when i dont react in a milisecond and have the fixes ready |
| 15:09.27 | Kalman| | cladhaire: What a jackass. |
| 15:09.41 | cladhaire | Kalman|: this isn't the first time I've had to deal with this.. |
| 15:09.48 | Kalman| | I know. |
| 15:09.53 | vrak | anyone got any screenies of baggins on the web? |
| 15:09.54 | Thrae | cladhaire: Why don't you upload my "nag addon" to the wowace SVN? It throws a message() and prints out to the DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME nagging you to download the latest version from your SVN. |
| 15:10.03 | MoonWolf | cladhaire, its hard to beat sense in users |
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| 15:10.20 | cladhaire | yep |
| 15:10.37 | MoonWolf | to be very honest, i wish we could return to the time when we were trying to convice people that ace was not the devil or the end of the world. |
| 15:10.41 | MoonWolf | at times anyway. |
| 15:11.01 | cladhaire | I was wrong earlier, by the way, ckknight didn't break my addons, it was some other user. |
| 15:11.29 | MoonWolf | now we practically dickslap our damn "fanbois" into shutting up about the omg its not aced it must be bad stuff |
| 15:11.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:11.31 | Eej | Kalman did you see my awesome care package on travian |
| 15:11.41 | MoonWolf | why did we have to inherit all the chaos/cosmos idiots. |
| 15:11.43 | Kalman| | Eej: Was that you? |
| 15:11.48 | Eej | yes |
| 15:11.59 | Eej | I sent my troops at somebody and he sent troops at me in retaliation |
| 15:12.04 | Kalman| | Totally got wasted, I overflowed my warehouse. :/ |
| 15:12.08 | Eej | and my cranny wasn't big enough so I sent em away |
| 15:12.10 | Eej | god damnit |
| 15:12.31 | jme | travian? |
| 15:12.38 | Kalman| | http://www.travian.com |
| 15:12.41 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: there is soo much crap on the ace svn as well |
| 15:12.43 | Kalman| | Webgame, kinda Settlers of Catanish. |
| 15:12.48 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 15:13.03 | [Ammo] | addons that only work for one guild and yell MOOOOO when zoning |
| 15:13.04 | nevcairiel | imho there should be some kind of quality control what gets on files. page :P |
| 15:13.05 | jme | cool... now i can be less productive at work :/ |
| 15:13.06 | [Ammo] | I mean c'mon |
| 15:13.11 | MoonWolf | but how do you get rid of it without pissing half the community off these day's? |
| 15:13.25 | TecnoBrat | cladhaire, rofl |
| 15:13.26 | GnancyWK | wow cladhaire i honestly thought that was come coder out to just annoy you |
| 15:13.28 | TecnoBrat | epic |
| 15:13.30 | nevcairiel | like a category "approved addons" |
| 15:13.32 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: you don't, you piss em off |
| 15:13.38 | nevcairiel | and "other" :p |
| 15:13.40 | Eej | oh yeah Kalman, I beat on somebody so bad he gave up on the account and gave me the password |
| 15:13.42 | Eej | it was pretty awesome |
| 15:13.44 | [Ammo] | just piss em off and live with it |
| 15:13.46 | Mikk | Ok.. just checking here... I'd like to have AceOptions display stuff when shown in a GUI, but not in commandline. I'm thinking that a good way of doing this is "Stuff shown in commandline\nMore stuff that's only shown in GUI." And have aceoptions commandline just strip off \n and everything after it... Agree? |
| 15:13.47 | cladhaire | GnancyWK: nope |
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| 15:15.02 | Mikk | Or should there be a separate "descGUI" argument that's shown in GUI instead of the standard one? |
| 15:15.31 | Mikk | Hm, maybe that's less hacky. |
| 15:15.56 | MoonWolf | sounds better to me. |
| 15:15.59 | TecnoBrat | cladhaire, some people just cannot respect someone wishes to distribute how they wish, not to mention have control over their own code, and not have anyone else edit it. |
| 15:16.13 | nevcairiel | there is guiName and cmdName |
| 15:16.19 | nevcairiel | maybe guiDesc wouldnt be too bad |
| 15:16.21 | Mikk | guiDesc then |
| 15:16.24 | cladhaire | TecnoBrat: I know.. this is just what we have to deal with =/ |
| 15:16.30 | TecnoBrat | :( |
| 15:16.41 | TecnoBrat | Type-Defect |
| 15:16.42 | TecnoBrat | rofl |
| 15:16.58 | MoonWolf | at some point people overstepped the unwritten rules that were in place on the svn |
| 15:17.06 | MoonWolf | and after that it went downhill. |
| 15:17.14 | nevcairiel | and is still going |
| 15:18.05 | Mikk | Well, it's either kicking asses out, or protecting more folders |
| 15:18.05 | [Ammo] | could just make a 'nut' folder |
| 15:18.15 | [Ammo] | and if addons pass the seal of approval, they get moved to trunk |
| 15:18.18 | [Ammo] | and are called mature :p |
| 15:18.21 | MoonWolf | i'm all for aproved and not aproved |
| 15:18.26 | Mikk | yeah me too tbh |
| 15:18.27 | nevcairiel | like i said .. approved and other :P |
| 15:18.35 | [Ammo] | nut and trunk :p |
| 15:18.41 | Thrae | cladhaire: http://wowace.pastey.net/57134 <-- easy nagger for PerfectRaid :D |
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| 15:18.48 | Gnarfoz | could have: written down the rules or restricted access to the mod ;) |
| 15:18.51 | cladhaire | heh |
| 15:19.03 | MoonWolf | dump all the current stuff in "other" (includes trunk / branches etc) |
| 15:19.13 | trh | Saroz: i'm getting sRaidframes: Unknown status Buff_Bloodlust |
| 15:19.13 | MoonWolf | and make an aproved |
| 15:19.19 | MoonWolf | create a new trunk branches and tags |
| 15:19.26 | Gnarfoz | so who approves shit? ^^ |
| 15:19.27 | MoonWolf | move everything major over |
| 15:19.31 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40709 10ItemValue/: |
| 15:19.31 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 15:19.31 | CIA-22 | - Externals set |
| 15:19.40 | MoonWolf | svn mods do |
| 15:19.50 | kebinusan_ | Or actually use tags to tag release stable versions :-) |
| 15:19.55 | Fisker- | i thought you could commit as long you had an account |
| 15:20.06 | Mikk | Fisker-: That's basically it today, yeah, and part of the problem |
| 15:20.08 | Josh_Borke | kebinusan_: craziness |
| 15:20.10 | MoonWolf | unless the folder is restricted |
| 15:20.15 | Gnarfoz | great idea then, fails right there - arbitrary decision on what gets approved |
| 15:20.16 | MoonWolf | and thats what we need to get rid off. |
| 15:20.21 | Mikk | There's no real review of people's sanity before they get access |
| 15:20.32 | Fisker- | well i'm not allowed access |
| 15:20.33 | MoonWolf | gnarfoz, yes arbritrary, this is not a democracy |
| 15:20.34 | Fisker- | that's something right? |
| 15:20.36 | MoonWolf | get used to it |
| 15:20.51 | MoonWolf | dicisions are made by an elite who get to say everything they want |
| 15:21.01 | nevcairiel | well, every addon thats useful to more then 2 people, and is not a blatant ripoff, is prolly worth it. |
| 15:21.05 | Iceroth | i don't think it would be too hard to get approved if you are willing to listen the reasons really |
| 15:21.05 | Thrae | Mikk: Well, if they ask ckknight, "Oh I want Ace SVN access so I can lick myself in naughty places", he -probably- wouldn't give it to them. |
| 15:21.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: which, most likely, is the case for 95% of the addons :) |
| 15:21.19 | Mikk | Thrae: ckknight isn't even the one handing out access |
| 15:21.24 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 15:21.26 | Thrae | Kaelten? |
| 15:21.28 | Mikk | yes |
| 15:21.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: nah, half the addons in SVN arent even working anymore :P |
| 15:21.42 | Thrae | Knew it was one of the two...back in the day, cladhaire was the one ;) |
| 15:21.47 | Gnarfoz | weren't all pre 2.0 addons purged? |
| 15:21.56 | MoonWolf | only off the files page |
| 15:22.00 | Gnarfoz | ah right |
| 15:22.22 | liquiem | sounds like multiverse! |
| 15:22.22 | Gnarfoz | which kind of is what this is about, because stupid normal users are not using svn clients, anyway, right? ^^ |
| 15:22.24 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: TinyTip would have been gone if that was the case ;) |
| 15:22.34 | Iceroth | the "i'll just use the acesvn to get my addons to WAU" is enough for such policy imo |
| 15:22.52 | nevcairiel | Thrae: it still worked with 2.0 :) |
| 15:23.03 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Needed a slight hack for 2.0 |
| 15:23.03 | [Ammo] | people using the wowace svn as a release mechanism will then automatically be binned in the other folder |
| 15:23.15 | MoonWolf | its not a release tool |
| 15:23.16 | MoonWolf | never was |
| 15:23.18 | MoonWolf | never will be |
| 15:23.20 | MoonWolf | never should be |
| 15:23.24 | MoonWolf | done finished over out. |
| 15:23.27 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:23.42 | Gnarfoz | then it will deteriorate into a place where several dozen never-finished addons will linger ^^ |
| 15:24.02 | sedatedChipmunk | TinyTip hiccuped for like half a day; it got fixed |
| 15:24.22 | Thrae | I think WAU solidifies USING Wowace SVN as a release mechanism, since no other website other then WorldofWar has a way to automagically update your addons with a few simple clicks. |
| 15:24.27 | vrak | where do i send exceptions from WAU? |
| 15:24.31 | hyperChipmunk | we didn't do the 2.0 purge until weeks after |
| 15:24.41 | Mikk | vrak: huh? |
| 15:24.45 | Mikk | vrak: send? |
| 15:25.03 | Gnarfoz | and of course, who am I, or every other user of a mod to ask of an author to actually release stuff to addon sites... that will be frowned upon, too, like it is now. vicious circle :> |
| 15:25.19 | vrak | Mikk: well, i assume the author might be interested in the exception text i got when it crashed |
| 15:25.24 | MoonWolf | problem of the author individually |
| 15:25.29 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: TinyTipExtras still doesn't work right...I think partly because someone switched TinyTip to use AceHook-2.1. It was working with AceHook-2.0. |
| 15:25.34 | Mikk | vrak: aaahh ok that kind of exception =) |
| 15:25.36 | MoonWolf | not of wowace.com |
| 15:26.00 | Mikk | vrak: Talk to sylvanaar |
| 15:26.02 | Gnarfoz | might be, but that answer really doesn't answer the question besides "not my problem" ^^ |
| 15:26.15 | MoonWolf | that is the awnser |
| 15:26.19 | |Kev| | I don't want to get flamed, and I do respect the opinion that SVN repos shouldn't be used as a distribution method |
| 15:26.42 | |Kev| | but my opinion is that really code should only be pushed out once it's considered stable |
| 15:26.48 | MoonWolf | no |
| 15:26.50 | MoonWolf | sorry |
| 15:26.58 | [Ammo] | fact is the repo is being used and supported as a distribution method |
| 15:26.58 | MoonWolf | can you tell me what svn stands for ? |
| 15:26.58 | |Kev| | (on my projects, we have rules for never pushing things that break anything) |
| 15:26.59 | Mikk | |Kev|: Hence the stable tagging that will come |
| 15:27.07 | Thrae | I don't know why someone updated TinyTip to AceHook-2.1 if it was working with AceHook-2.0 |
| 15:27.24 | nevcairiel | AceHook-2.0 was deprecated |
| 15:27.25 | |Kev| | MoonWolf: no, is it important? |
| 15:27.26 | pb_ee1|tmp | Is there a way to read the logs of purl before 00:00 AM tonight? |
| 15:27.28 | Gnarfoz | does acehook-2.0 still work? |
| 15:27.32 | [Ammo] | although through the files folder |
| 15:27.43 | [Liquidor] | I was stealthing around with my rogue capturing leet scenes for my movie when i saw this awesome battle unfold before my eyes tauren warrior versus gnome mage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGHDAVteErI&mode=related&search= |
| 15:27.44 | |Kev| | oh, it doesn't |
| 15:27.50 | pb_ee1|tmp | ~log |
| 15:27.50 | purl | log is probably as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation |
| 15:27.50 | |Kev| | it's just a contraction, that's ok then |
| 15:27.59 | pb_ee1|tmp | d'oh |
| 15:27.59 | MoonWolf | if you are only pushing stable working code, you may as well be using it as a slightly more detialed tag system. |
| 15:27.59 | |Kev| | was worried for a moment |
| 15:28.06 | nevcairiel | ~logs |
| 15:28.07 | purl | logs is, like, apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 15:28.07 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 15:28.09 | nevcairiel | there |
| 15:28.19 | Thrae | nevcairiel: So AceHook-2.0 and AceHook-2.1 can't live together? |
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| 15:29.00 | pb_ee1|tmp | nevcairiel: thanks, but the log of today isn't there. Nevermind, I'll wait a bit |
| 15:29.02 | |Kev| | MoonWolf: I take the opinion that in a multi-developer environment, it's best to not expose the other developers to your broken code, so I essentially advocate branches (although I don't like svn branches) until code is mature enough to go to mainline |
| 15:29.20 | nevcairiel | Thrae: AceHook-2.0 was removed from the Ace2 package |
| 15:29.24 | Thrae | That seems to go against the original idea of stubbing. If it's called AceHook-2.1, that means its API has changed, so people still using AceHook-2.0 should not have to update if AceHook-2.0 is working. |
| 15:29.29 | nevcairiel | because it wasnt working with 2.0 iirc |
| 15:29.42 | |Kev| | like I say, I can appreciate the other stance, and I don't think it's wrong, but I'm suggesting that there's another valid opinion :) |
| 15:29.58 | Thrae | AceHook-2.0 worked with Ace2 at one point...so ckknight or someone else broke it and then called the new version AceHook-2.1? |
| 15:30.04 | MoonWolf | in that case we will have to live with our seperate stances. |
| 15:30.06 | hyperChipmunk | since when do we care about other ppl? |
| 15:30.27 | MoonWolf | no clue |
| 15:30.42 | MoonWolf | right after we horribly crushed cosmos i think. |
| 15:30.46 | [Ammo] | Thrae: I think it was WoW 2.0 that broke AH 2.0 |
| 15:30.51 | [Ammo] | hence 2.1 |
| 15:30.53 | [Ammo] | or something like that |
| 15:30.57 | [Ammo] | it could have been 1.12 as well |
| 15:31.08 | jme | hmm, wonder why my armory page is broken |
| 15:31.11 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Calling it 2.1 doesn't make any sense unless it's actually a API change |
| 15:31.13 | |Kev| | I don't think ace crushed cosmos, cosmos was beyond hope even before the end of beta :) |
| 15:31.15 | jme | and some others work |
| 15:31.48 | jme | actually... does anyone's armory US side work? |
| 15:31.49 | Mikk | Contrary to popular belief in this channel, Cosmos actually has a boatload of users. |
| 15:31.51 | Mikk | Just go to their forums and see. |
| 15:32.07 | Mikk | But, yeah, Ace addon users outnumber them greatly |
| 15:32.10 | |Kev| | Mikk: it may well have picked up again |
| 15:32.17 | [Ammo] | Thrae: I don't remember the exact reason |
| 15:32.25 | |Kev| | but they dropped the ball around about release time imo, to the extent that I didn't look back |
| 15:32.28 | Kalman| | jme: Patch day, but, yes, mine does. |
| 15:32.34 | nevcairiel | cosmos pretty much died sometime ago, maybe someone resurrected it |
| 15:32.38 | nevcairiel | stupid pally i bet |
| 15:32.39 | Kalman| | Oh, weird. Rep works, chardata doesn't. |
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| 15:32.52 | Mikk | nevcairiel: ya, cosmos is pretty much an AL project these days =P |
| 15:32.57 | Codayus | It's odd, I haven't actually met anyone in...a long LONG time that used Cosmos. I know people do, it's just... <shrug> Odd. |
| 15:34.01 | Codayus | Nobody in my guild does. And they never come up in discussions on the various WoW forums I read... |
| 15:34.19 | Thrae | Codayus: Cosmos or Khaos? |
| 15:34.31 | deltron | heh cosmosui is still around? |
| 15:34.31 | [Ammo] | Khaos is still used quite some |
| 15:34.35 | Codayus | Either. |
| 15:34.35 | jme | Kalman|: yeah i figured patch day borked it |
| 15:34.36 | Codayus | Both. |
| 15:35.27 | Kalman| | jme: I suspect that until people log in, the charactersheet data won't propagate. |
| 15:35.52 | sbu | warg |
| 15:36.09 | jme | Kalman|: of course. |
| 15:36.22 | Kalman| | But rep/talent/skill data is still there, which is weird. |
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| 15:36.44 | jme | Service Temporarily Unavailable |
| 15:36.47 | jme | lol |
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| 15:41.02 | sbu | Daemona: help :p |
| 15:42.50 | Antiarc|Work | Morning folks. |
| 15:43.18 | nevcairiel | morning |
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| 15:47.04 | Fisker- | damn |
| 15:47.09 | Fisker- | Quake Wars is cool :o |
| 15:47.23 | Boubouille | http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6231/cpudaywn9.png |
| 15:47.53 | Fisker- | you think you're so cool :O |
| 15:48.10 | Boubouille | of course I am |
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| 15:52.09 | Adirelle|Work | Fisker-: try Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory |
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| 15:54.15 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r40711 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.lua KingOfTheJungleUIOptions.lua): |
| 15:54.15 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 15:54.15 | CIA-22 | - Added itemcount to popubuttons |
| 15:54.15 | CIA-22 | - Feed Pet button will change to Mend Pet in combat, button will never hide in combat now. |
| 15:56.10 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: You around?> |
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| 16:03.11 | Antiarc|Work | Anyone have any idea how we should handle SwFixLogStrings? |
| 16:04.41 | Hjalte | Does anyone know what addon sometimes make my tooltips look like on the screenshot? I had just seen a tooltip for a tier 5 piece, which is where the gems and so on comes from. http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_061907_180223.jpg |
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| 16:05.40 | dodgizzla | Hjalte: What is so special about it? |
| 16:05.50 | Antiarc|Work | It's a flask with gems in it? |
| 16:05.52 | dodgizzla | Ah wait. |
| 16:05.54 | dodgizzla | Yeah :D |
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| 16:06.28 | Gagorian | Hjalte: I've had that same bug |
| 16:06.31 | Megalon | Hjalte: also got that sometimes, +63 stamina on some posted recipes >:< |
| 16:07.07 | Hjalte | dodgizzla, yeah, what antiarc says :) I'm having ratingbuster under heavy suspecion though. |
| 16:07.10 | Megalon | oh |
| 16:07.17 | sbu | dodgizzla always has some 'gems' in his flask :/ |
| 16:07.26 | Megalon | Hjalte: what was the last item you sold? |
| 16:07.33 | Gagorian | Hjalte: I don't use ratingbuster and I've had it |
| 16:07.35 | dodgizzla | I had that too some days ago, don't remember it exactly. But could be RatingBuster |
| 16:07.39 | dodgizzla | sbu: I socket everything. |
| 16:07.52 | Hjalte | Megalon, I didnt sell anything, but i know that the gems and enchant comes from a tooltip i had just seen of a tier 5 item. |
| 16:07.52 | Codayus | Yes, the recipe links seem to borrow item enchantments and gems from whatever you clicked on last... |
| 16:07.56 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Bitch at the guy who writes SwFIxLogStrings |
| 16:08.05 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: then he takes care of your issues for you or something :-p |
| 16:08.07 | Gagorian | I'm fairly certain it's not RatingBuster at least. |
| 16:08.14 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: It actually changes the strings in KTM |
| 16:08.22 | Megalon | Hjalte: oh k, as my tooltips now have the stats of my last item i vendored |
| 16:08.23 | Antiarc|Work | I know that KTM compensates for it, yeah |
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| 16:08.27 | Cryect | KTM doesn't |
| 16:08.41 | Antiarc|Work | I saw something in the codebase the other day that did... |
| 16:08.41 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40712 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: FeedAceOptionsTable(): Add a "guiDesc" field that gets shown instead of "desc" |
| 16:08.43 | Cryect | SWFixLogStrings fixes KTM thats why KTM bitches one of its variables has been changed |
| 16:09.01 | Cryect | Either way SWFixLogStrings should never have existed |
| 16:09.30 | stavmar | Have you guys seen this, Lawlz https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110534879&sid=1 |
| 16:10.24 | kenlyric | owned |
| 16:10.33 | kenlyric | they need to own people more on the forums. |
| 16:10.52 | Cryect | stavmar thats been linked 3 times in this channel now :-p |
| 16:11.06 | Cryect | amusing thing is I've only seen it in this channel |
| 16:11.21 | stavmar | Cryect: sorry just joined |
| 16:11.26 | Cryect | haha no issue :-p |
| 16:11.29 | Cryect | its a large channel |
| 16:11.35 | Cryect | I'm sure others have missed it |
| 16:12.22 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r62 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: |
| 16:12.22 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: TinyTip: Added basic position and anchoring. The default for within frames is |
| 16:12.22 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: the game's default, and the default elsewhere is "stuck to cursor". You can |
| 16:12.22 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: change this by editing the database values directly in the TinyTip.lua file. |
| 16:12.22 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
| 16:12.24 | Antiarc|Work | "Adding SW_Stats as an optional dependency would just ensure that it loads before Omen, which often fixes issues related to SW_FixLogStrings and parsing. It has nothing to do with actually using or requiring SW_Stats." |
| 16:12.26 | Antiarc|Work | Is that true? |
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| 16:13.01 | Cryect | Uh well it would result in it loading before your addon I have no idea if it works or not? |
| 16:13.18 | Daemona | time to screw sws and use assessment / violation? |
| 16:13.21 | Antiarc|Work | Well, yeah, I just didn't know if SW_Stats restored the parser strings after it was done |
| 16:13.27 | Cryect | I know something that does work just disable SW_FixLogStrings |
| 16:13.34 | Cryect | no it doesn't |
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| 16:13.43 | Cryect | it gets written out to your combatlog.txt file |
| 16:13.47 | Cryect | as the modified form |
| 16:14.03 | Cryect | and that apparently happens at the very end |
| 16:14.20 | Cryect | You could have threat disable swfixlogstrings |
| 16:14.27 | Cryect | SWS doesn't even need it |
| 16:14.40 | Antiarc|Work | If swfixlogstrings loads first, then I'm probably pooched anyhow |
| 16:15.07 | Antiarc|Work | What I CAN do is print a warning on Threat boot-up that says "You're using swfixlogstrings, this breaks crap, turn it off" |
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| 16:15.32 | Cryect | Prolly should check out whatFor addon devs: If you generate your regEx from global vars it is best just to make SW_Stats (and not this) |
| 16:15.32 | Cryect | an optional Dep in your toc |
| 16:15.32 | Cryect | ## OptionalDeps: SW_Stats |
| 16:15.43 | Cryect | thats if you use Global Vars |
| 16:15.52 | Cryect | are you using global vars to generate your regex's? |
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| 16:16.03 | Antiarc|Work | Ask ckknight. It breaks Parser, not Threat |
| 16:16.05 | Cryect | thats what KTM I guess is doing or something for the ones it complains about |
| 16:16.12 | Antiarc|Work | But since Parser's kinda the core of Threat... |
| 16:16.21 | Cryect | ah it doesn't break parser-1.1 btw :-p |
| 16:16.56 | Cryect | heh I can see why ## OptionalDeps: FixLogStrings, Parser-3.0 |
| 16:17.01 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40713 10ItemValue/: |
| 16:17.01 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 16:17.01 | CIA-22 | - Corrected Externals |
| 16:17.54 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work yeah parser-3.0 is using the global vars |
| 16:18.10 | Cryect | if you make it an optional dep of sws then it should work |
| 16:18.43 | Cryect | Guess I better do the same with Recount for those who run embedded |
| 16:18.44 | Antiarc|Work | Unfortunately, that means that every mods that embeds Threat has to do that to get it to work properly |
| 16:18.50 | Antiarc|Work | But what can you do? |
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| 16:19.05 | Cryect | uh bitch at the SWS guy at what was he thinking? |
| 16:20.13 | trh | Antiarc|Work: onenable scheduledevent to check for sw stats fixlog |
| 16:20.21 | trh | Antiarc|Work: like 20 seconds after startup |
| 16:20.31 | trh | Antiarc|Work: if found display error or remove it and display information why |
| 16:21.00 | Matrix110 | swfixlogstrings only fucks non US/GB clients anyway |
| 16:22.17 | Cryect | what are you talking about it? it fucks up US clients |
| 16:22.28 | pastamancer | trh: no need for a scheduled event, that's what ADDON_LOADED is for |
| 16:22.59 | trh | pastamancer: yeah, but in that case other addons might display messages at that point and it just gets clicked ok without reading |
| 16:23.23 | theoddone33 | ooh, 2.1.2 |
| 16:23.25 | pastamancer | you could re-generate the regexes |
| 16:23.29 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: actually its not just any mod that embeds threat its actaully any mod that embeds Parser-3.0 |
| 16:23.39 | Antiarc|Work | yeah. |
| 16:23.39 | pastamancer | after fixlogstrings does its dirty work |
| 16:24.28 | Cryect | yeah that would work if Parser-3.0 was configured that way |
| 16:25.20 | pastamancer | I do something similar with ChatThrottleLib in CastComm: http://ace.pastey.net/57140 |
| 16:25.28 | packetlss | why is fixlogstrings needed anyway, if i may ask? |
| 16:26.24 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r63 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Some OCD stuff that really shouldn't matter. |
| 16:27.17 | Antiarc|Work | It makes it easier for SWStats to pick up some log messages, I guess |
| 16:27.42 | Kalman| | It also expands some messages to provide more information (VT mana gains for sure, maybe some others). |
| 16:28.26 | Daemona | anyone got an idea why i cant for the sake of ********* get the auras from the right side of my target frame below it? |
| 16:29.00 | Mikk | pastamancer: wow that's involved... you could just have your Send function check each time and use it yaknow.. it's not like Send can ever be used that bloody often anyway =P |
| 16:29.57 | pastamancer | Mikk: nah, that was simple |
| 16:30.06 | ulic | would something like simplecombatlog prevent other addons from seening some combat events, logic tells me no, but I just wanted to double check. |
| 16:30.55 | packetlss | there was a way to get the time on debuffs as text inside the bufficons in pitbull? |
| 16:31.47 | Cryect | Kalman|: what are you talking about VT Mana Gains how could adding a single space inbetween things do that? |
| 16:32.23 | Cryect | though I see what its trying to fix though |
| 16:32.53 | Kalman| | Cryect: Combatlogs with SWS_Fixwhatever enabled attribute VT mana gains. Without it, they don't. |
| 16:33.11 | Antiarc|Work | I don't see how the code would do that, TBH |
| 16:33.12 | Cryect | that makes no sense considering what SW_FixLogStrings does |
| 16:33.18 | Antiarc|Work | (looking at it now, not really sure what it does for enUS) |
| 16:33.26 | Cryect | all it does is add a space |
| 16:33.27 | Kalman| | Possibly some other piece of SWS does it. |
| 16:33.31 | Cryect | return string.gsub(str, "(%%%d?$?s)('s)", "%1% %2"); |
| 16:33.44 | Saladin | What's this nasty CDT2 bug about...it has a habit of telling me my cooldows are all 2.0 seconds |
| 16:33.49 | Kalman| | Saladin: GCD. |
| 16:33.51 | Cryect | that line it looks for "(text)'s" then replaces it with "(text) 's" |
| 16:34.15 | Saladin | Kalman|: why would it use GCDs all of a sudden? never done it before |
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| 16:34.33 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r64 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Smooth Border removed until I can fix it. You should also get background and border colours back now too. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
| 16:34.38 | Kalman| | Saladin: Did you just wipe WTFs or upgrade? If so, possible the mincooldown setting got changed. |
| 16:34.42 | Saladin | Kalman|: and it is setting CDs to 2.0 seconds, not 1 |
| 16:34.58 | Saladin | Kalman|: aha. how to change it back? :/ |
| 16:35.07 | Antiarc|Work | Sounds like a GCD issue. |
| 16:35.14 | Kalman| | It's an option in /cdt, but I forget which. It's either GCD or wanding. |
| 16:35.15 | Dustwhisper | how do you remove the TPS section from omen |
| 16:35.21 | Saladin | ah thanks |
| 16:35.24 | Cryect | its prolly actually 1.5 its setting it to |
| 16:35.25 | Saladin | will try |
| 16:35.30 | Cryect | and its just rounding up |
| 16:35.33 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Skins -> Skin Settings -> Columns -> TPS -> uncheck "show" |
| 16:35.34 | Cryect | so you get 2 |
| 16:37.00 | Dustwhisper | How do i set the width of the window then Antiarc|Work =D? |
| 16:37.01 | Saladin | Kalman|: well, there's no option for GCDs. There's only minimum time settings |
| 16:37.15 | Saladin | the thing is, my fireblast shows as having a 2 second cooldown |
| 16:37.15 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Drag the sizer grip in the bottom right corner |
| 16:37.17 | Cryect | Saladin it doesn't set the time |
| 16:37.22 | Kalman| | Saladin: Yes. Set your minimum time to 3 seconds. |
| 16:37.23 | Cryect | your fireblast has a 1.5 second cooldown |
| 16:37.24 | Saladin | I know, minimum time |
| 16:37.39 | Saladin | Fire Blast has 8 seconds cooldown. |
| 16:37.49 | Cryect | Well I was thinking gCD :_p |
| 16:37.53 | Kalman| | It also has a 1.5 second cooldown when you're under GCD, and a wandspeed cooldown while wanding. |
| 16:38.03 | Dustwhisper | last but not least! :P how do i remove the "Omen" title text |
| 16:38.06 | Saladin | its the same with blink |
| 16:38.15 | Saladin | It ticks down from 2 seconds, then disappears |
| 16:38.20 | Cryect | strange |
| 16:38.26 | Saladin | y |
| 16:38.39 | Kalman| | Saladin: This is when you use them, not when you do something else? |
| 16:38.47 | Saladin | Yes. |
| 16:38.57 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40714 10Recount/Recount.toc: Recount - Some TOC fixes |
| 16:39.05 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40715 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Add a UnitPlayerControlled() check to the NPC module loader so that we don't load boss modules when mousing over people that have named themselves or their pets after boss mobs. |
| 16:39.14 | Saladin | I cast blink, it goes down from 2 to 0 seconds, then the bar disappears |
| 16:39.39 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: No option for it yet, will be soon. |
| 16:40.00 | Cryect | so did you work out the issues with pet scaling? |
| 16:40.03 | Saladin | and Kalman|, there isn't any gcd setting |
| 16:40.05 | Antiarc|Work | Almost, I think |
| 16:40.20 | Antiarc|Work | I need to do more data analysis tonight, but I realized right before I went to bed that pet happiness is affecting Growl |
| 16:40.25 | Antiarc|Work | I think it modifies the base value of Growl |
| 16:40.32 | Cryect | oh thats interesting |
| 16:40.36 | Daemona | lol Antiarc|Work :) |
| 16:40.40 | Antiarc|Work | So rank 3 = 110 threat, 82.5 if unhappy, 137.5 if happy. |
| 16:40.45 | Antiarc|Work | Plus any scaling. |
| 16:40.51 | Daemona | i usually just report people that named themselves after boss mobs :X |
| 16:40.55 | Kalman| | Saladin: No, there's just minimum time, which needs to be set > GCD/wandspeed or you get problems. But CDT2 also has some weirdness where it stores a cooldown and uses that instead of rechecking, which causes problems with use trinkets which have equip cooldowns. |
| 16:41.10 | Saladin | Kalman|: Yeah, I set it > wand speed. |
| 16:41.30 | Kalman| | I'd bet that it's the cooldown caching screwing you up; I forget how to fix it, though. Tried /rl? |
| 16:41.31 | Saladin | But it still counts my spells as having 2 sec CDs |
| 16:41.32 | sbu | mh, wtb quartz 'swing' timer for wands ;p |
| 16:41.43 | Saladin | Kalman|: ofc :p |
| 16:41.49 | dodgizzla | WTB working Sticky bars in ClassTimers :\ |
| 16:42.05 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r65 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: OK, border should be the correct colour now. R,G,B, not R,B,G. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
| 16:42.58 | Saladin | Kalman|: Works now, thanks for help. |
| 16:44.09 | Daemona | oida _art3mis..... |
| 16:44.14 | Saladin | auda |
| 16:44.15 | trh | i can ping you too! |
| 16:44.20 | Shirik | _art3mis: sup |
| 16:44.27 | Saladin | Pong! |
| 16:45.27 | _art3mis | hi |
| 16:45.40 | trh | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/i-has-a-hat.jpg <- best picture ever ;) |
| 16:45.53 | art3mis | i use pings whenever i think my connection is about to die ;P |
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| 16:46.06 | trh | lamest excuse ever :P |
| 16:48.04 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40716 10Protractor/Protractor.toc: Protractor - Fixed deps so it actually has GraphLib as a dep now |
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| 16:48.26 | NimbleRabit | Anyone know of a decent mirror for the patch? |
| 16:48.33 | abyssichate | ckknight: there? |
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| 16:50.02 | Mech0z | If a person have pitbull then he dont need ktm in order for me to see him on Omen right? |
| 16:50.16 | Gagorian | Mech0z: what? :D |
| 16:50.27 | Punkie` | Mech0z: yes |
| 16:50.31 | Mech0z | nice |
| 16:50.36 | dodgizzla | Hm, how come my Aloft Texture is set to LiteStep Lyte, even though I set it to Aluminium!? :D |
| 16:50.42 | Punkie` | I believe threat-1.0 is in its embeds |
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| 16:51.13 | Fin | dodgizzla: I'm guessing that -- and this is just a stab in the dark here -- something changed it |
| 16:51.29 | dodgizzla | Fin: Nowai! |
| 16:51.31 | Mech0z | But it was wierd in a Karazhan run while killing trash only 2 persons kept showing up other than me and my pet (Everyone other than me have KTM) but on Prince it worked fine and also in SSc) |
| 16:51.44 | Mech0z | Dunno why it didnt showed them on the other mobs :/ |
| 16:52.05 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r40717 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: fix bars-zhCN local bug |
| 16:52.05 | Elkano | not 100% true. I think it can happen that Threat isn't loaded by omen if the modul isn't active and Threat has been installed standaone bt is disabled |
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| 16:54.12 | Mech0z | well the 2 persons shown up I know that at least the one of them have pitbull |
| 16:54.21 | Mech0z | so it must have been a ktm reading problem I guess |
| 16:55.29 | dodgizzla | Hu, funky |
| 16:55.43 | dodgizzla | Even Violation show LiteStep Lyte, although I set it to Aluminium there too |
| 16:55.54 | dodgizzla | Could it be, that PitBull's "All units" did this? |
| 16:55.57 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r66 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Added explanations for Background and border colouring options. Revamped background and border colouring, they should now work for all units. (http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/) |
| 16:56.18 | Cryect | Threat should always run even if not loaded by an addon |
| 16:57.28 | Gnarfoz | I whink I might be overwriting something I don't want to overwrite... how do I revert one file of a commit? is that possible? :) |
| 16:57.46 | Mech0z | btw is there ace2 minimap mod that can make it square? |
| 16:57.52 | Gnarfoz | squeenix |
| 16:57.53 | Gnarfoz | simpleminimap |
| 16:58.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: just update that specific file to the revision you want to revert to, then commit it. |
| 16:58.05 | durcyn | smm is good stuff. |
| 16:58.06 | Mech0z | which is the lighttest? |
| 16:58.14 | CIA-22 | 03gnarfoz * r40718 10Tattle/ (17 files in 16 dirs): Tattle - EU data update |
| 16:58.14 | durcyn | squeenix is probably smaller though |
| 16:58.17 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: alright, will look into that :) |
| 16:58.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: or, to ask less dumb questions, read the svn book. |
| 16:58.21 | kergoth | Gnarfoz, obviously you could do it manually.. i'm not sure if you can revert just a single file using 'svn merge', which is the usual method |
| 16:58.24 | durcyn | since smm includes all kinds of modules |
| 16:58.37 | Mech0z | any very usefull? |
| 16:58.54 | dodgizzla | Hm, strange. Relogged and textures are fine again |
| 16:58.58 | Gnarfoz | already got the svn book open, just struggling to find out if it's possible to revert one file ;-) but updating it backwards seems fine, too |
| 16:59.15 | durcyn | i think so. let you move frames which are parented to minimap, i.e. quest tracker/timer, pvp capture tracker, all that jazz. lets you hide other elements like buttons and scale it, etc. |
| 16:59.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: you can do anything to a single file. Just specify that file as the path, instead of a directory |
| 16:59.40 | Mech0z | will try it out |
| 16:59.43 | Gnarfoz | ah, ok :) |
| 16:59.47 | Mech0z | cant hurt (I hope) :) |
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| 17:00.18 | kenlyric | did anyone bring the attunement news over here? I don't wanna be all repeaty |
| 17:00.32 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r67 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Removed background colouring for NPCs. You can change this at the bottom of the code by editing the database manually (option 2). Option 1 is disabling background colouring entirely. |
| 17:00.45 | kenlyric | don't see it recent scroll http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110637185&sid=1 |
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| 17:01.14 | art3mis | im happy they fixed shadow fiend |
| 17:01.24 | Acolar_ | they did? |
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| 17:01.38 | art3mis | hadnt played in a long time used it twice last night to find out it doesnt auto attack my target |
| 17:01.49 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:01.51 | art3mis | but this patch buts its back to how it originally behaved |
| 17:01.51 | kenlyric | it will now |
| 17:01.57 | art3mis | puts |
| 17:01.59 | art3mis | yeah |
| 17:02.05 | kenlyric | it will still be a full pet, so you can change its target if you wish. |
| 17:02.16 | kenlyric | assuming the pet bar bug is fixed :) |
| 17:02.25 | Acolar_ | cool :) |
| 17:02.29 | art3mis | the one where clicking it does nothing? |
| 17:02.31 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:02.37 | NimbleRabit | does ThreatToKTM work well? |
| 17:02.49 | kenlyric | the one where it doesn't show up in combat, so you have no idea it can be controlled :) |
| 17:02.57 | art3mis | oh yeah mine does |
| 17:03.10 | art3mis | i didnt notice it twice thought it was doing its thing |
| 17:03.15 | kenlyric | I didn't know untila couple days ago. Wondered why the fucker was always sitting beside me. |
| 17:03.25 | Acolar_ | hah |
| 17:03.27 | art3mis | then realized i gained no mana and the little bastard was still standing next to me ;) |
| 17:03.42 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r40719 10ArenaMaster/localization.lua: |
| 17:03.42 | CIA-22 | ArenaMaster: |
| 17:03.42 | CIA-22 | - Added zhTW translation |
| 17:03.54 | kenlyric | on curator I'd run to a flare just so I could be sure to take damge :) |
| 17:03.57 | Daemona | any1 got a patchlog pastey for a european? ;) |
| 17:04.03 | art3mis | laugh |
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| 17:04.20 | Mech0z | I cant any way to make smm give me square? |
| 17:04.24 | kenlyric | we’ve decided to remove the attunement requirements to enter Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep: The Eye. |
| 17:04.30 | kenlyric | for those of you that don't like clicking on links. |
| 17:04.42 | Mech0z | nwm its askin |
| 17:05.00 | Mech0z | kenlyric say what? |
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| 17:05.22 | kenlyric | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110637185&sid=1 it's like the things I type don't even make it through. |
| 17:05.51 | Dustwhisper | How do you call another addons /command from an addon? |
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| 17:09.06 | Mikk | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH |
| 17:09.14 | Mikk | I'M IN ACEOPTION MULTI-LEVEL-PASS HELL |
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| 17:10.03 | Kalman| | Daemona: http://ace.pastey.net/57142 |
| 17:10.55 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r68 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: The border will now default to the reaction text colouring for NPCs. PCs will be the same. If you want the old behavior, it's Border option 3. |
| 17:11.09 | durcyn | Thrae: googlecode tinytip useable yet? |
| 17:11.51 | Thrae | durcyn: It has all of the old default options (formating and positioning), except none of the "TinyTipExtras" features. However, TinyTipExtras doesn't really work anyway. |
| 17:11.57 | Funkeh` | Thrae: where is this svn? i can't seem to find any download links on google |
| 17:12.17 | durcyn | Thrae: i just to anchor the damn things to cursor. |
| 17:12.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: there was a url in a recent commit message, scroll up? |
| 17:12.30 | Thrae | durcyn: Yep, it does that by default for mouseover units. |
| 17:12.31 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 17:12.32 | durcyn | Funkeh`: http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/ |
| 17:12.43 | NeoTron | armory.wow.com down = php crashes on the armory toolkit. |
| 17:12.44 | NeoTron | lame |
| 17:12.51 | durcyn | Funkeh`: it's also linked under 'source' from code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/ |
| 17:12.53 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: scroll up yourself and find out when i joined the channel SLUT |
| 17:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: I've got joins and parts hidden, WHORE! :P |
| 17:13.12 | durcyn | Thrae: just unit tooltips, or item/frame as well? |
| 17:13.18 | Funkeh` | clearly you suck! |
| 17:13.19 | durcyn | well, not item |
| 17:13.27 | NightHawkTheSane | well, obviously. |
| 17:13.37 | Funkeh` | not as bad as nymbia though, ill give you that |
| 17:14.05 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:14.32 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks. |
| 17:14.35 | Dustwhisper | How do I call another addons /command ? |
| 17:14.42 | Mikk | So.. is multi-level "pass=true" groups in AceOptions even supposed to work? |
| 17:14.49 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:14.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Dustwhisper: look and see what function that slash command calls, then call it yourself. |
| 17:15.09 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:17.13 | kebinusan_ | wow no more attunement requirements on ssc/tk |
| 17:17.20 | Fisker- | OMFG |
| 17:17.23 | Fisker- | are blizzard retarded? |
| 17:17.43 | *** join/#wowace durcyn_ (n=torgo@cpe-24-28-3-201.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 17:17.56 | abyssichate | it looks like it |
| 17:18.07 | CIA-22 | 03gnarfoz * r40720 10Tattle/dataminer.lua: Tattle - restore dataminer.lua to rev 38646, accidentally overwrote it |
| 17:18.13 | Fisker- | seriously |
| 17:18.19 | Fisker- | that is the most retarded shit i've ever heard |
| 17:18.26 | Fisker- | Removing attunements to SSC and TK |
| 17:18.32 | Fisker- | SHARE DRUGS PLEASE |
| 17:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I fail to see what's so retarded about that? |
| 17:19.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Easier access to content ftw? |
| 17:19.08 | Kalman| | kebinusan_: What? |
| 17:19.10 | Silviu- | Fisker- where u see that ? |
| 17:19.11 | Kalman| | Link. |
| 17:19.18 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110637185&sid=1 |
| 17:19.20 | kebinusan_ | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110637185&sid=1 |
| 17:19.28 | Silviu- | thx |
| 17:19.29 | Iceroth | there's a lock in my raid complaining that resisted soul shatter wipes threat in omen, is that addressed already? |
| 17:19.30 | NeoTron | holy shit on SSC/TK attunements |
| 17:19.45 | NeoTron | we even managed to get like 22-24 ppl attuned/needing just Mag too |
| 17:19.46 | kenlyric | jesus fucking christ. |
| 17:19.50 | Fisker- | It's so easy |
| 17:19.52 | kenlyric | I linked it twice! and nobody paid attention. |
| 17:19.56 | Kalman| | I am incredibly happy about that, but mostly because I do NOT feel like finishing off my repgrinds on the rerolls. |
| 17:19.58 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I paid attention |
| 17:20.00 | Kalman| | I was eating lunch! |
| 17:20.05 | NeoTron | I'm not sad |
| 17:20.06 | Fisker- | kenlyric i didn't want drugs for it |
| 17:20.07 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-178-119-45.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 17:20.08 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.10 | kebinusan_ | kenlyric: I was alt tabbed sorry :-) |
| 17:20.13 | NeoTron | because it means we kill lootreaver tonight |
| 17:20.18 | kebinusan_ | hehe |
| 17:20.26 | kebinusan_ | that really helps my guild |
| 17:20.34 | NeoTron | although it's sort of a bummer because it means our effort these past two weeks have been a waste of sorts |
| 17:21.07 | Fisker- | Also that |
| 17:21.10 | Fisker- | But seriously |
| 17:21.23 | Fisker- | Last boss in Gruul + Magtheridon + Nightbane |
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| 17:22.12 | Antiarc|Work | Iceroth: No, it's not addressed. I've been putting it off because I don't have a lock to test with :/ |
| 17:22.12 | Codayus | wait, they're removing attunement forSSC? |
| 17:22.20 | abyssichate | yes |
| 17:22.28 | Codayus | Hmm, interesting. |
| 17:22.35 | abyssichate | and TK's one too |
| 17:23.06 | Codayus | How do Void Reaver and the first boss of SSC compare to Gruul, say? |
| 17:23.10 | Iceroth | Antiarc|Work, kk |
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| 17:23.27 | Fisker- | Void Reaver < Magtheridon |
| 17:23.33 | Fisker- | as far as i heard |
| 17:23.36 | Awaa | Void == Free T5 |
| 17:23.38 | Iceroth | though wouldn't that kind of a resist check be useful for a lot of things? |
| 17:23.46 | Iceroth | or is soul shatter unique in some way? |
| 17:23.49 | beerke | Void is just a trash mob |
| 17:23.57 | abyssichate | Hydross is harder than Gruul, VR is not |
| 17:24.10 | Codayus | As embarassing as it is to say, my guild has been kind of stuck on Gruul. >< After a couple wipe nights, attendance has dropped off... |
| 17:24.15 | beerke | Anyways, i am absolutely not happy with removing thsoe checks. Even if i am behind in progress |
| 17:24.20 | Codayus | A new - beatable - boss would help morale. |
| 17:24.21 | *** join/#wowace kergoth (n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com) |
| 17:24.41 | beerke | If you can't kill gruul, doubt you can kill void reaver :P |
| 17:24.52 | kenlyric | or hogger |
| 17:24.55 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r69 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Colouring should be fixed. (again) |
| 17:24.56 | Saroz | Everyone collect your free T5 shoulders are door #1 |
| 17:24.57 | abyssichate | The current Gruul? |
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| 17:25.17 | Saroz | loots! |
| 17:25.21 | Codayus | We COULD kill him. If people would sign up. Which they don't, because they don't want repair bills. Grrr. |
| 17:25.21 | Antiarc|Work | Iceroth: I have a resist check in there, but it's just not working |
| 17:25.29 | void_reaver | hey! |
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| 17:25.51 | Iceroth | eh, repair bills? that's like 2 daily quests |
| 17:25.54 | Codayus | 6% wipes on Gruul when half your top DPS don't sign up because they don't think we have enough DPS to down Gruul...frustrating. |
| 17:26.07 | beerke | Find another guild then |
| 17:26.16 | Iceroth | .. for 1 wipe night |
| 17:26.38 | kaiden | All i have to say is i love blizzard |
| 17:26.38 | kaiden | Players will no longer slow down to walking speed when closely following another player. |
| 17:26.46 | kaiden | that was my absolute most hated change of 2.1 |
| 17:26.47 | kaiden | :) |
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| 17:26.53 | Codayus | <shrg> We're kinda casual. Mostly we do well, but we don't handle difficulty. |
| 17:26.54 | kaiden | and fixed in 2.1.2 yay :P |
| 17:26.57 | cncfanatics | omg, hello everyone :) has been so damn long |
| 17:27.10 | kaiden | j/k |
| 17:27.11 | kaiden | ;P |
| 17:27.12 | beerke | Well if you are casusal, wth are you gonna do in SSC and TK :) |
| 17:27.17 | cncfanatics | yo kaiden ^^ |
| 17:27.19 | Chompers | holy hell... |
| 17:27.23 | cncfanatics | i'm on my way :) |
| 17:27.24 | Chompers | no ssc attunement :o |
| 17:27.26 | kaiden | cncfanatics, good to have you back :) |
| 17:27.28 | Codayus | Wipe to new trash! |
| 17:27.44 | Chompers | thats crazy |
| 17:27.50 | Dustwhisper | woot! |
| 17:27.51 | kaiden | cncfanatics, where ya been btw? |
| 17:27.51 | beerke | Bet everyone goes trash mob farming |
| 17:27.52 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40721 10FlexBar2/: FlexBar2: Removed folder for now, expect a commit of a beta in a while |
| 17:27.55 | Dustwhisper | i got my supersimplistic addon to work! |
| 17:27.57 | beerke | and not killin bosses :P |
| 17:28.00 | Kebinusan | It wasnt so much a casual problem with our guild it was losing members and having serious issues moving forward in content because of it |
| 17:28.02 | Dustwhisper | Omen shows when i enter combat, Grid shows when i go out of combat =D |
| 17:28.08 | Kebinusan | and our realm being barren |
| 17:28.21 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110636194&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-- heh |
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| 17:28.24 | cncfanatics | kaiden, too much playing wow :p |
| 17:28.25 | kenlyric | AGGRO |
| 17:28.28 | Dustwhisper | To the experts here, is the following a dirty hack way of doing what I want: |
| 17:28.28 | Dustwhisper | OmenAnchor:Show() |
| 17:28.28 | Dustwhisper | GridLayoutFrame:Hide() |
| 17:28.34 | Codayus | Actually, I think the key difference isn't so much in skill as in...persistence. And our pool of good players is pretty shallow, so 1-2 healers deciding to take abreak...hurts. |
| 17:28.34 | Dustwhisper | and then reverse on out of combat |
| 17:28.46 | cncfanatics | kaiden btw, can u tell me what changed in wowace for the last few months ? :p |
| 17:28.48 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r40722 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:28.48 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:28.48 | CIA-22 | - Divided the Darkmoon page into 2. |
| 17:28.56 | Chompers | we can start ssc soon, horay! |
| 17:29.00 | kaiden | cncfanatics, fantastic, gotta take breaks sometimes |
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| 17:29.26 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r40723 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: |
| 17:29.26 | CIA-22 | Cartographer: |
| 17:29.26 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 17:29.30 | kaiden | cncfanatics, god, too much :) mainly sleepless nights with ckknight and others fluffing up PitBull to be the badass on the block |
| 17:29.38 | Codayus | when are the attunement requirements being removed? |
| 17:29.42 | Gandharva | Are they stupid @blizz? |
| 17:29.44 | cncfanatics | aguf author gonna switch to pitbull :p |
| 17:29.48 | kaiden | you should check out all the libraries he's been writing Threat-1.0 most especially |
| 17:29.48 | beerke | I bet many people will not bother with killing magtheridon |
| 17:29.59 | beerke | as he is too *complicated* |
| 17:31.01 | cncfanatics | Threat-1.0, heard about it |
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| 17:31.08 | cncfanatics | it works with KTM ? |
| 17:31.09 | Dustwhisper | Antiarc|Work you around? |
| 17:31.12 | Antiarc|Work | Yo. |
| 17:31.19 | Antiarc|Work | cncfanatics: Partial support, full support on the way |
| 17:31.25 | cncfanatics | great stuff |
| 17:31.28 | cncfanatics | I hate having KTM :p |
| 17:31.40 | kaiden | check out antiarcs baby omen then |
| 17:31.42 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: did you commit the colour fixes for classes/pet fixes? |
| 17:31.42 | kaiden | i lub it |
| 17:31.45 | cncfanatics | and it seems more accurate then KTM too, always too low threat reported |
| 17:31.52 | kenlyric | Codayus: later today. |
| 17:31.54 | Dustwhisper | is it dirty or can it potentialy cause any problems if i do OmenAnchor:Hide() ? |
| 17:31.55 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: ! |
| 17:31.57 | Codayus | cool |
| 17:32.01 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, no into starting to rewrite flexy |
| 17:32.05 | Dustwhisper | that was to you btw Antiarc|Work |
| 17:32.05 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Fix flexbar kk thanks! |
| 17:32.06 | cncfanatics | yo Gagorian, how long has it been ? :) |
| 17:32.08 | Mikk | Codayus: Why would you want them removed? |
| 17:32.10 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Nah, that should be fine. Why not just /omen toggle? :P |
| 17:32.15 | Dustwhisper | doing it from inside a mod |
| 17:32.17 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Like... A few months? :P |
| 17:32.24 | Dustwhisper | Grid shows when i go Out of combat, Omen shows when i enter combat |
| 17:32.28 | Dustwhisper | so i can overlap them on same screenpos |
| 17:32.29 | Mikk | The attunment reqs are a reality check tbh. If you can't manage them, you don't belong in that raid instance.. Really. |
| 17:32.30 | Dustwhisper | but only have 1 show |
| 17:32.32 | kaiden | cncfanatics, if you need idea's for it, let me know.. i'm bursting with idea's i've given jjsheets for InfiniBar |
| 17:32.36 | kaiden | but it looks like he's awol for good |
| 17:32.39 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: /script Omen:Toggle(false) |
| 17:32.46 | Fisker- | But i guess we'll see a lot of tier 5 shoulders around now :D |
| 17:32.47 | cncfanatics | awol = ? |
| 17:32.51 | Dustwhisper | how would I do that for grid btw? |
| 17:32.58 | Antiarc|Work | Depends on Grid's implementation |
| 17:32.59 | cncfanatics | kaiden btw, whisper me them, or however u call that on irc |
| 17:33.13 | Dustwhisper | can i just do Omen:Toggle(false) from inside the addon then Antiarc|Work ? |
| 17:33.20 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 17:33.20 | Dustwhisper | Grid uses that standby ace2 thingymajingy |
| 17:33.27 | kaiden | cncfanatics, old army stuff they used to say they were absent without permission :P |
| 17:33.29 | Dustwhisper | would that be Grid:standby(false) or something? |
| 17:33.42 | kenlyric | I will pay many dollars for pets in grid. |
| 17:33.48 | Antiarc|Work | Omen:Toggle() with no parameters toggles the state, Omen:Toggle(boolean) sets Omen's visibility to the boolean passed. |
| 17:34.43 | Kebinusan | I wish there was an option in grid to set the layout per instance or something.. I guess I could just make the background transparent |
| 17:34.57 | Codayus | I'd love pet support... |
| 17:35.26 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: No, changes not committed yet |
| 17:35.32 | Antiarc|Work | I discovered that I was missing something last night |
| 17:35.36 | kenlyric | though finally someone told me that blizzard default frames have pets now, so I can pull that out. |
| 17:35.39 | Antiarc|Work | I think that pet happiness affects the base value of Growl |
| 17:36.03 | abyssichate | Does anyone else experience freezes in WoW once you crash, then log back in and you are still in a raid? |
| 17:36.04 | kergoth | thatd explain a lot |
| 17:36.14 | Fisker- | hey all pet owners can heal their pets! |
| 17:36.22 | abyssichate | My guild fixes that by removing the people that crash and that are relogging in from the raid, but that's annoying |
| 17:36.30 | Fisker- | <-moar quake wars, new changes are retarded |
| 17:37.05 | *** join/#wowace drc|away (n=drc@p548584B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:37.28 | Silviu- | new update script ;) http://ace.pastey.net/57143 |
| 17:38.06 | Punkie` | Doesn't this garbage stuff look a bit silly: http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/kk.jpg |
| 17:38.14 | Silviu- | Wtb more addons with embeds.xml :) |
| 17:38.18 | Punkie` | I just flew to skettis, did a daily, flew back to shattrath o.O |
| 17:38.32 | Punkie` | logged on for like 5 minutes |
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| 17:39.36 | kenlyric | did you fish? |
| 17:39.46 | kergoth | think i finally figured out what was generating unnecessary conflicts in my addon updates in my addon set svn... if you write python scripts to read in data from files and write them back out, when the files came from multiple places/os's/editors, remember to retain a lack of trailing eol on the last line if the file was that way when you read it in. |
| 17:39.48 | Punkie` | not at all |
| 17:40.02 | kenlyric | did you have your fishing pole on? |
| 17:40.05 | Punkie` | like i said, i just flew to skettis, done the bombing run, flew back |
| 17:40.06 | Punkie` | nope |
| 17:40.15 | kenlyric | oh, I gues cart_fishing would sitll load. |
| 17:40.28 | kenlyric | does seem kinda large. |
| 17:40.36 | kenlyric | obviously not running embedded. |
| 17:40.45 | Punkie` | i am not, of course :) |
| 17:41.30 | Punkie` | My Cartographer_Fishing SV are only 4.6 KB |
| 17:41.31 | mikma | rofl |
| 17:41.32 | mikma | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110534879&sid=1&pageNo=1#2 |
| 17:42.34 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40724 10ClassTimer/ (. Libs/): ClassTimer: removed libs dir and moved externals into . now that embeds.xml is in . too |
| 17:44.17 | rubik | mikma: hahah |
| 17:44.56 | NimbleRabit | gah servers still down |
| 17:45.09 | Ominous | 2.1.2 today? |
| 17:45.11 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40725 10/trunk/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Libs/): FlexBar2: Initial (and empty) commit |
| 17:45.20 | deltron | no |
| 17:45.22 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110636194&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 17:45.22 | deltron | ;D |
| 17:45.30 | kergoth | flexbar2 returns? hurray |
| 17:45.50 | Ominous | cncfanatics, recoded it or something? |
| 17:46.09 | cncfanatics | i'm on it |
| 17:46.13 | cncfanatics | just got back from a looooooong break |
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| 17:47.47 | purtle | hello? |
| 17:48.00 | deltron | goodbye? |
| 17:48.04 | purtle | omg |
| 17:48.06 | purtle | bye |
| 17:48.08 | purtle | lol |
| 17:48.09 | deltron | :D |
| 17:48.11 | purtle | :) |
| 17:48.18 | cncfanatics | omg, ups |
| 17:48.36 | cncfanatics | commited my stuff directly in trunk -.- |
| 17:48.39 | cncfanatics | bad bad bad cnc |
| 17:48.43 | Silviu- | :) |
| 17:48.46 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: ping |
| 17:48.54 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: pong |
| 17:49.13 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: in your latest commit im hovering over blank screen and getting bt3 squares show up |
| 17:49.20 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 17:49.26 | Funkeh` | that bad |
| 17:49.29 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40726 10/trunk/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Libs/): FlexBar2: ups, sorry :) commited in the wrong place, so delete |
| 17:49.35 | nevcairiel | that you better get used to |
| 17:49.41 | nevcairiel | or give me a new idea howto solve :P |
| 17:49.42 | nn8 | yes! wanted that name |
| 17:49.43 | Funkeh` | why si that |
| 17:49.49 | Funkeh` | what was wrong in the first place |
| 17:50.15 | nevcairiel | butotn:Disable() and button:Enable() will no longer work in combat as of 2.1.2 |
| 17:50.29 | nevcairiel | i will try to get rid of the hover textures tho |
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| 17:51.38 | Dustwhisper | Wooot! |
| 17:51.42 | Dustwhisper | they are removing TK attunement |
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| 17:52.55 | nevcairiel | that sucks so hard |
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| 17:53.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 17:53.04 | nevcairiel | it really isnt any difficult to do that -.- |
| 17:53.18 | Gnarfoz | tk and ssc both |
| 17:53.22 | Gnarfoz | yay :\ |
| 17:53.30 | Gnarfoz | dunno, don't have a raid because my server is crappy :\ |
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| 17:53.36 | nevcairiel | where does it say that anyway? |
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| 17:53.59 | Kjellviz | hi there |
| 17:54.06 | deltron | hi |
| 17:54.26 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40727 10/trunk/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Libs/): FlexBar2: Initial (and empty) import |
| 17:54.38 | Kjellviz | whats the difference between http://wowace.com/wiki/ElkBuffBars and http://wowace.com/wiki/ElkBuffBar ? (besides the obvious version number) |
| 17:54.41 | cncfanatics | not again |
| 17:54.41 | Antiarc|Work | FlexBar2? :O |
| 17:54.42 | cncfanatics | FFS |
| 17:54.48 | cncfanatics | yeye; let me |
| 17:54.51 | deltron | one was in development |
| 17:54.56 | Jagobah | whenever I use flexbar I type /flex |
| 17:54.59 | cncfanatics | cant important decently anymore |
| 17:55.05 | cncfanatics | import* -.- |
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| 17:56.09 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40728 10/trunk/Core.lua: FlexBar2 Removed file/folder |
| 17:56.21 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40729 10/trunk/FlexBar2.toc: Removed file/folder |
| 17:56.25 | cncfanatics | u'll excuse me for the spam for now |
| 17:56.30 | cncfanatics | something very wrong with my commits -.- |
| 17:56.39 | deltron | -_- |
| 17:56.47 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40730 10Libs/: Removed file/folder |
| 17:57.11 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r40731 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/ExtraText.lua PvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua Sets/sets.lua): |
| 17:57.11 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:57.12 | CIA-22 | - Arena Season 2 Sets added |
| 17:57.12 | CIA-22 | - PvP prices adjusted |
| 17:57.15 | Kjellviz | deltron: one was in development ? |
| 17:57.22 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40732 10FlexBar2/ (. Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Libs/): FlexBar2: Initial import (correctly I hope) |
| 17:57.31 | cncfanatics | at last |
| 17:57.35 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: /cheer |
| 17:57.36 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:58.44 | deltron | Kjellviz: last time I checked elkbuffbars was a test mod |
| 17:58.52 | deltron | that was a while ago though |
| 18:00.07 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40733 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: Externals set |
| 18:00.59 | Kjellviz | deltron: ok, so its prob outdated ? |
| 18:01.06 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40734 10ItemValue/ (. ItemValue.lua): |
| 18:01.06 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 18:01.06 | CIA-22 | - Externals fixed |
| 18:01.06 | CIA-22 | - Preparation for multiple default jewels |
| 18:01.17 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40735 10/branches/AceTab-2.0/: |
| 18:01.17 | CIA-22 | AceTab-2.0 branch |
| 18:01.17 | CIA-22 | - creating AceTab-2.0 branch directory |
| 18:01.27 | deltron | Kjellviz: probably, i use elkbuffbar |
| 18:01.35 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40736 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: Really set externals |
| 18:01.43 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07hC * r40737 10AceTab-2.0/: |
| 18:01.43 | CIA-22 | AceTab-2.0 hC: |
| 18:01.43 | CIA-22 | - branching for some experimentation |
| 18:01.52 | Kjellviz | deltron: ok, is it working fine ? |
| 18:02.15 | deltron | yes |
| 18:02.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ElkBuffBars is (i believe) the essentially a rewrite of ebb. It's currently fully functional, as I recall |
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| 18:05.00 | deltron | NightHawkTheSane: like I said, I haven't tried using it in a while :P |
| 18:05.40 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40738 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell deDE update |
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| 18:11.26 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r40739 10Incubator/Locale-frFR.lua: Incubator: frFR Update |
| 18:11.27 | Fisker- | Blizzard celebrating their decision to open up SSC and The Eye http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=danceparty1337ax6.swf |
| 18:11.29 | Fisker- | ^^ |
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| 18:12.26 | Dustwhisper | aye |
| 18:13.17 | Daemona | omg |
| 18:13.28 | Daemona | kael'thas doing pyroblast during phase change to p5 |
| 18:13.29 | Daemona | .-. |
| 18:14.23 | sylvanaar | Mikk rofl |
| 18:15.12 | sylvanaar | Mikk i bet the 3 hour root canal i had was more fun - than what you been doing |
| 18:15.52 | Mikk | root canal. joy. |
| 18:17.31 | nn8 | stupid data files |
| 18:17.54 | Mikk | sylvanaar: you wouldn't happen to know if multi-level passing groups are supposed to work in aceoptions/Dewdrop, wouldyou? |
| 18:18.50 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 18:19.16 | sylvanaar | supposed to = i read that in the commit log some time ago |
| 18:19.27 | Mikk | it's erroring out on me >.< |
| 18:19.43 | Mikk | and reading the code, i'm not entirely surprised that it does |
| 18:20.26 | sylvanaar | Mikk Dewdrop blows my mind |
| 18:20.44 | Mikk | dewdrop itself isn't so bad |
| 18:20.51 | Mikk | FeedAceOptionsTable hurts my head tho |
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| 18:20.59 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/tier5.jpg |
| 18:21.15 | sylvanaar | Mikk yeah - no kidding |
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| 18:25.24 | trh | anyone got the link to the bluepost tracker? :/ |
| 18:25.28 | trh | can't google it :( |
| 18:25.46 | Awaa | bluetracker |
| 18:25.58 | trh | thansk :) |
| 18:26.06 | stavmar | http://blue.cardplace.com/blue_results1.htm |
| 18:26.16 | Kebinusan | http://blue.cardplace.com/? |
| 18:27.05 | cncfanatics | back, yo all again :) |
| 18:27.28 | trh | i read in the german boards that they want to remove the attunements from SSC/TK |
| 18:27.33 | NeoTron | expected patch notes tomorrow: Hotfix: Gruul's Hurtful Strike now hits second aggro again (sorry!) Aran: Pets no longer trigger Flame Wreath |
| 18:27.55 | trh | so i thought i should doublecheck :) |
| 18:27.55 | deltron | attunements are gone |
| 18:27.55 | trh | (was only from a user posted) |
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| 18:27.56 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110637185&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:27.58 | jme | deltron: what? |
| 18:28.05 | deltron | ^^ |
| 18:28.07 | deltron | clicky |
| 18:28.12 | trh | thanks :) |
| 18:28.16 | CIA-22 | 03stormfx * r40740 10cyCircled/plugins/Nurfed.lua: |
| 18:28.16 | CIA-22 | cyCircled: |
| 18:28.16 | CIA-22 | - Nurfed plug-in: Small fix. |
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| 18:28.21 | CIA-22 | 03smoere * r40741 10Enigma/ (. 2do.txt Enigma.toc core.lua readme.txt): |
| 18:28.21 | CIA-22 | Enigma: initial commit |
| 18:28.21 | CIA-22 | - weak encryption on public chat channels |
| 18:28.21 | deltron | ssc & tk attunements are going byebye |
| 18:28.25 | jme | deltron: ahh |
| 18:28.27 | jme | neat |
| 18:28.27 | trh | gonna post it in my guilds forum.. they'll like it =) |
| 18:28.33 | Sedai | PitBull: rangecheck - add text, melee, ranged |
| 18:28.35 | Aenslaed | encrypted chat? what |
| 18:28.38 | deltron | there will be a pug SSC/TK tonight I can guarantee that |
| 18:28.47 | NeoTron | hah |
| 18:28.49 | jme | deltron: lol |
| 18:28.55 | NeoTron | such a pug will fail miserably |
| 18:29.19 | Megalon | "lf tank with resi gear for ssc"? |
| 18:29.22 | Aenslaed | you can always farm the trash before hydross lol |
| 18:29.28 | Chompers | time to farm mats for my t3 sword :D |
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| 18:30.19 | deltron | most everyone should be able to down void in tk I assume |
| 18:30.28 | Tornhoof | hmm did anyone notice the bloodlust error with sraidframes? |
| 18:30.36 | deltron | Tornhoof: how so? |
| 18:30.48 | Tornhoof | lemme find screenshot |
| 18:30.50 | deltron | ok |
| 18:30.50 | Tornhoof | some buff warning |
| 18:31.03 | Antiarc|Work | "A Venezuelan techie apparently has set a new record for longest WiFi link. Networking guru Ermanno Pietrosemoli established a wireless connection between a PC in El Aguila, Venezuela, and one in Platillon Mountain, a distance of about 237 miles, mostly using off-the-shelf equipment and a few hacked parts." |
| 18:31.05 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 18:31.34 | deltron | I use sraidframes in 25 man raids, and pitbull in 10 man |
| 18:31.40 | trh | deltron: isn't it a DPS fight? |
| 18:31.58 | deltron | yeah i think it is |
| 18:32.14 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r40742 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: Externals |
| 18:32.24 | trh | deltron: i know that my flatmates guild its very close always.. like.. enrage, tank activates shield wall and 6 seconds later void reaver is dead |
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| 18:32.47 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/technology/06/19/19att.html <-- get yer $10 DSL here |
| 18:32.53 | Aenslaed | fastest we've killed VR was 2 minutes till enrage. Was pretty insane. |
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| 18:33.25 | Tornhoof | uploading ss |
| 18:33.59 | deltron | nuts |
| 18:34.04 | deltron | i've not tried :( |
| 18:34.14 | stavmar | Antiarc|Work: that is my hometown paper lol. ANd I can tell i had to leave ATT because the service quality they provided did not meet the standard they promised. I was paying 3MBit download and was getting 1.1MBit |
| 18:34.29 | stavmar | I say screw ATT |
| 18:34.32 | jme | what gear level do you think is necessary to survive in ssc/tk? |
| 18:34.38 | jme | all epics/t4? |
| 18:34.45 | Kalman| | jme: For what class? |
| 18:34.53 | Kalman| | Different encounters have different minhp, as well. |
| 18:34.54 | deltron | i'd say yes |
| 18:34.55 | Tornhoof | http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6020/sraidframesbv1.jpg |
| 18:34.57 | jme | Kalman|: eh, i'm a hunter |
| 18:35.01 | jme | in all blues =/ |
| 18:35.16 | deltron | Tornhoof: i'll check that out tonight |
| 18:35.17 | Antiarc|Work | hunters should be fine, I'd think |
| 18:35.20 | Kalman| | You're probably fine on a lot of SSC content, barring Morogrim. |
| 18:35.23 | deltron | see if I could replicate it |
| 18:35.28 | jme | interesting |
| 18:35.35 | Kalman| | Morogrim you might need to swap in some stamina-oriented pieces. |
| 18:35.43 | Antiarc|Work | A hunter's concern in a raid is primarily going to be mana longevity, I suspect |
| 18:35.56 | Antiarc|Work | So you'll need some int/mp5 gear to stay relevant in long boss fights |
| 18:36.04 | jme | cool |
| 18:36.08 | Mikk | Stick an spriest in a 4 hunter group. Hunters wearing only rogue leather. Win. |
| 18:36.12 | jme | man i haven't even stepped foot in kara yet :/ |
| 18:36.15 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, ping |
| 18:36.17 | jme | heh |
| 18:36.21 | Mikk | We have a BM hunter in rogue leather putting out 1050 dps sustained on bosses |
| 18:36.21 | deltron | later in SSC you need tons of stam |
| 18:36.22 | Mikk | Nuts |
| 18:36.23 | NeoTron | so void reaver vs magtheridon and hydross - he's pretty much easier right? |
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| 18:36.45 | sbu | hydross > void reaver > magtheridon (i think) |
| 18:36.46 | jme | Mikk: nice |
| 18:37.01 | NeoTron | easier on a technical standpoint than mag, but a bit harder to kill? |
| 18:37.14 | Peoii | NeoTron: In order of ease: Void Reaver -> Mag -> Hydross imho. |
| 18:37.18 | NeoTron | how bad is the enrage timer? do the dps have to hold back to avoid tanks losing aggro? |
| 18:37.29 | Matrix110 | well actually technically hes harder than Mag but still easy |
| 18:37.37 | Peoii | Only because VR is a joke if you have enough people who know how to move. |
| 18:37.52 | jme | i'm not too crazy about my gear.. one piece of desolation, one piece of beast lord, the rest mid-upper 60s blues |
| 18:38.04 | NeoTron | should melee have arcane resist at all or unnecessary? |
| 18:38.09 | dacoffey | why would a hunter wear rogue leather? |
| 18:38.09 | deltron | <3 desolation |
| 18:38.21 | jme | deltron: i like the beast lord set bonuses better |
| 18:38.23 | Mikk | dacoffey: because it has shitloads more AP |
| 18:38.24 | deltron | dacoffey: shaman would :P |
| 18:38.28 | NeoTron | dacoffey: because it's better for dps? :P |
| 18:38.40 | dacoffey | ah |
| 18:38.50 | Mikk | dacoffey: hunter gear spends lots of its item budget on int and stuff... rogue gear doesn't. just plain damage. |
| 18:39.08 | deltron | hahaha we're going to do void reaver tonight |
| 18:39.09 | dacoffey | ok and the hunter isn't sposed to be getting hit |
| 18:39.22 | Mikk | hunters are never supposed to get hit :P |
| 18:39.26 | jme | dacoffey: correct |
| 18:39.43 | Mikk | either way, mail vs leather against raid mobs matters not one iota |
| 18:39.53 | ckknight | Thrae: AceHook-2.1 was made because of the secure environment and secure hooks |
| 18:39.53 | Mikk | it'll crit you for 15k instead of 19k, but you're still dead |
| 18:39.56 | Antiarc|Work | If a raid mobs hits you, you're dead unless you're in plate. |
| 18:40.14 | Peoii | l2dodge. |
| 18:40.29 | cncfanatics | actualy, most plate healers will die too |
| 18:40.32 | Antiarc|Work | Dodge tanking hurtful strikes after your offtank dies is one of my simple joys in life. |
| 18:40.37 | cncfanatics | 12k armor & no hp wont cut it :p |
| 18:40.39 | Mikk | ckknight: Aaaargh, now you're mine. Is multi-level passing aceoptions supposed to work? |
| 18:40.41 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: PitBull-r40684\PitBull.lua:5599: attempt to call global 'InCombatLockDown' (a nil value) when trying to enter config mode |
| 18:41.24 | Punkie` | Xuerian! |
| 18:41.35 | Mikk | Nickenyfiken: stay away. he's mine. |
| 18:41.42 | Mikk | :> |
| 18:41.48 | Xuerian | Punkie`: ? |
| 18:41.54 | Punkie` | incoming PM |
| 18:41.59 | Punkie` | oh no not needed |
| 18:42.17 | cncfanatics | kaiden, ping |
| 18:42.18 | Punkie` | Xuerian: http://ace.pastey.net/57148 |
| 18:42.20 | Lyfe | something tells me ckknight is about to put up an away message :) |
| 18:42.50 | ckknight | Athou: pong |
| 18:42.53 | ckknight | abyssichate: pong |
| 18:43.00 | Xuerian | I'll look at it later Punkie: in wc3 :p |
| 18:43.02 | ckknight | no, Mikk |
| 18:43.05 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: whoops |
| 18:43.06 | Punkie` | Xuerian: I just downloaded it now because I cba with doing /roll all the time |
| 18:43.07 | Nickenyfiken | Mikk: lol |
| 18:43.09 | Punkie` | cheers :) |
| 18:43.13 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: any idea why the armory tools crash php when armory is acting up? |
| 18:43.18 | Athou | ckknight: hey ! I have 2 bug reports for you ! :D |
| 18:43.32 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Because they can't talk to the armory to get data? :P |
| 18:43.37 | NeoTron | well |
| 18:43.48 | Dustwhisper | ehm |
| 18:43.55 | Dustwhisper | why the hell doesnt omen show any bars in fight oO? |
| 18:43.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Punkie`: would you add Curse of Weakness to pDebuffList please? |
| 18:44.00 | NeoTron | ... [Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate -167038404 bytes)].. I'd rather php say "failure" than segfault and/or exit.. |
| 18:44.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40743 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - InCombatLockDown => InCombatLockdown |
| 18:44.17 | Athou | ckknight: first, texts placed in the blank space tend to disappear for no reason after a few second, I can make them reappear by changint their properties like size or type but they vanish again later |
| 18:44.19 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. That's not good. |
| 18:44.19 | Punkie` | ZealotOnAStick: I could add it so that it lights up DS if you like? |
| 18:44.34 | Punkie` | ZealotOnAStick: They have the same value afaik |
| 18:44.43 | ckknight | Athou: odd |
| 18:44.49 | ckknight | Athou: I'll check it out |
| 18:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: its not quite the same value, actually |
| 18:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: it depends on who has what talented |
| 18:45.14 | Athou | they work just fine when placed inside the health bar or anywhere else |
| 18:46.01 | NeoTron | I wonder if it'd work better with curl but I don't have that available |
| 18:46.13 | NeoTron | and don't feel like changing the precompiled rhel version |
| 18:46.15 | ZealotOnAStick | What he said. |
| 18:46.17 | NeoTron | or fedora rather |
| 18:46.24 | Athou | and second, well I don't know if it's pitbull causing it, but every (sharedmedia) texture in the game is set to the one i use on pitbull frames |
| 18:46.25 | ckknight | Athou: right, I'll be looking into that |
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| 18:46.46 | ckknight | SharedMedia |
| 18:46.57 | Punkie` | NightHawkTheSane: yes, that's true but I'd hate to add another line if they do effectively the same thing and don't stack :) |
| 18:47.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: I agree, it's probably best to combine them, and leave it up to the raid to figure out which should be used. Just saying that they're not equal :) |
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| 18:48.14 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40744 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: FeedAceOptionsTable(): Make multi-level passing groups work! Yay! (No, still won't work commandline. SEP.) |
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| 18:48.38 | ckknight | Mikk: that wasn't in the specification... |
| 18:48.40 | Dustwhisper | someone help me asap please, in SSC =D Omen is up but it's not showing anything |
| 18:48.50 | ckknight | Mikk: you should update the specification |
| 18:48.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:49.11 | Mikk | Tbh, the specification on passing groups is extremely fuzzy at best |
| 18:49.17 | KarlThePagan | oh yea that's just what I needed this morning... "Latest patch files infected" |
| 18:49.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Pucmel: Maybe just change it from DS to "DS/CoW", have it hilight or whatever when it detects either. |
| 18:50.04 | NightHawkTheSane | er, I meant Punkie` there. stupid autocomplete >< |
| 18:50.08 | Punkie` | damn you! |
| 18:50.24 | Punkie` | I will look at doing that NightHawkTheSane :) |
| 18:50.28 | abyssichate | ckknight: thanks for the fix :x |
| 18:50.28 | Peoii | KarlThePagan: ? |
| 18:50.29 | Punkie` | Show whichever is active |
| 18:50.47 | KarlThePagan | Peoii, AVG is telling me BackgroundDownloader.exe is infected |
| 18:50.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: and if you don't already, adding Demoralizing Roar into that as well would be good, for bear tanks |
| 18:50.56 | Peoii | KarlThePagan: Ahhh |
| 18:50.56 | KarlThePagan | hopefully a false positive |
| 18:51.04 | Ominous | where are 2.1.2 patch notes? |
| 18:51.30 | Ominous | ah found em werent in proper list on wowwiki |
| 18:51.47 | packetlss | Ominous: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/notes/enUS/6803 |
| 18:52.00 | khaki[wtf] | blue has said it is a false positive |
| 18:52.18 | khaki[wtf] | many people updated their AV such as kaspersky and re-scanned and came up clean...another AV vendor even confirmed it was a false positive. |
| 18:52.28 | Dustwhisper | Antiarc|Work you here? |
| 18:52.38 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 18:53.04 | Dustwhisper | im running omen now, it aint showing any bars at all (only testbars if i hit that) |
| 18:53.15 | Dustwhisper | does it not run if KTM is running? |
| 18:53.17 | jme | ugh the wow forums are being so slow |
| 18:53.54 | Antiarc|Work | It should run even if KTM is running |
| 18:53.56 | Antiarc|Work | Are you solo? |
| 18:54.03 | Zeksie | dustwhisper. it won't show if ur in a city, solo.. etc. |
| 18:54.11 | Antiarc|Work | If so, ThreatLib disables itself so it doesn't use any CPU, since threat data is useless when solo |
| 18:54.19 | Antiarc|Work | Use the "Active When Solo" option to override that. |
| 18:54.39 | Dustwhisper | im in serpentshrine |
| 18:54.46 | Dustwhisper | attacking mobs |
| 18:54.57 | NeoTron | serpentshrine is a city, just happened to be inhabited by nagas! |
| 18:55.00 | NeoTron | or something |
| 18:55.24 | Dustwhisper | could it be because I do Omen:Toggle(true) when i enter combat? |
| 18:55.27 | Kjellviz | how can i hotkey FuBar CorkFu to cast the buffs im missing ? |
| 18:55.31 | Dustwhisper | should that inhibit it's functionality oO? |
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| 18:55.55 | Mikk | Kjellviz: make a macro that does "/click CorkFuFrame" |
| 18:56.00 | Mikk | Then stick that in an action button |
| 18:56.01 | Ominous | wow us froums down? |
| 18:56.04 | Mikk | Then fix the binding for that button |
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| 18:56.37 | Kjellviz | Mikk: ok, is the corkfuframe visible ? |
| 18:56.49 | Mikk | Kjellviz: no |
| 18:56.50 | Gnarfoz | rogue talents: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=wheboxZGcV0bVzxrGot or http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oxZGcEz0VzxMGot ? |
| 18:57.19 | Antiarc|Work | PVE, PVP? |
| 18:57.28 | Gnarfoz | mainly pve, some arena-pvp to eventually get arena mainhand |
| 18:57.36 | Dustwhisper | PVE |
| 18:57.39 | Gnarfoz | (read: no serious pvp) |
| 18:57.39 | Dustwhisper | raiding in SSC |
| 18:57.42 | Dustwhisper | right now was doing a pack |
| 18:57.55 | Kjellviz | Mikk: ok, got it working, thanks but.... |
| 18:57.57 | Dustwhisper | SWstats working, KTM working, Omen is showing testbars |
| 18:58.18 | Dustwhisper | static frozen testbars |
| 18:58.19 | Dustwhisper | nothing else |
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| 18:58.35 | Antiarc|Work | I'd take the second option, drop WEx for Murder, move Imp Gouge to LR |
| 18:58.35 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: Why are you forcing that toggle tho? Try without it? |
| 18:58.37 | Kjellviz | are there any blacklisting and/or ability to show a reminder onscreen ? (other than the one on fubar) |
| 18:58.52 | Mikk | Kjellviz: nope. lacking in that area. |
| 18:58.57 | Mikk | tekkub likes writing minimalistic stuff |
| 18:59.09 | Mikk | feel free to write the Ultimate Rebuffer :P |
| 18:59.19 | Dustwhisper | Mikk cause I wrote a simple addon that Hides it when i go out of combat and then shows Grid (to buff) and then hides grid and shows Omen when I go into combat |
| 18:59.27 | Antiarc|Work | If you're going to do arena stuff, I'd drop Vitality of Nerves of Steel |
| 18:59.33 | Antiarc|Work | Resisting a fear or stun can be a match-winner |
| 18:59.39 | Kjellviz | Mikk: ok thanks again, guess its back to smartbuff then =\ |
| 18:59.47 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc|Work: thanks, I'll those tips a spin :) |
| 19:00.37 | Dustwhisper | i did notice something about omen |
| 19:00.39 | Dustwhisper | when i toggled it on now |
| 19:00.43 | Dustwhisper | it's rolled up |
| 19:00.47 | Dustwhisper | so no bars show |
| 19:01.02 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oeZMGEz0VzV0hRt is my PVE primary/Arena secondary spec |
| 19:01.21 | Nickenyfiken | Sorry for being silly now but if for a addon to load a unembedded library it has to be listed in OptionalDeps list right? |
| 19:01.33 | Antiarc|Work | The dispel resist on Vile Poisons is really nice against paladins |
| 19:01.48 | *** join/#wowace Yasuo (n=Yasuo@dslb-088-072-226-065.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:02.00 | Antiarc|Work | Since they either have to waste time spamming cleanse to take off wounding that resists a quarter of the time, or take partial heals |
| 19:02.10 | trh | Nickenyfiken: if it should even load when the library is not present, yes |
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| 19:02.57 | Sedai | would it be possible to add a text feature to PItbull's RangeCheck, you know a different way than through the transparency of the frame |
| 19:03.20 | Antiarc|Work | Also, Adrenaline Rush is really nice in the arena |
| 19:03.27 | Antiarc|Work | Being able to pop it and just chew through a target is sexy. |
| 19:04.07 | Antiarc|Work | I like it when a cloth group jumps on the pillars in Blade's Edge. AR, BF, CloS :D |
| 19:04.25 | Sedai | "melee", "ranged", "out of range" or be able to customize the text to say whatever? |
| 19:05.08 | Sedai | i know its not possible to add an actual text range "34 yards" right? |
| 19:06.05 | Peoii | yay for bored mothers! |
| 19:06.18 | Peoii | I get free food, she gets to see me, I think it's a fair trade. |
| 19:06.56 | kergoth | i need to learn how to not suck in pvp with mutilate. i can never seem to get positioned to use it :P |
| 19:06.57 | Mikk | Sedai: you can only do that for friendly players in your party |
| 19:07.02 | Mikk | Sedai: and only outside of instances |
| 19:07.31 | Antiarc|Work | Honestly, the biggest benefit to that spec in PVP is Quick Recovery |
| 19:07.44 | Antiarc|Work | Quick recovery + resilience means that rogues are a lot harder to vaporize |
| 19:07.59 | Dustwhisper | why do i get "XX is not using Threat-1.0" when i know several in my guild is running Omen/assessment? |
| 19:08.26 | Kaelten | warning we have a potential leacher |
| 19:08.27 | Kaelten | 210.200.197.150 |
| 19:08.32 | Kaelten | anyone tell me anything about that ip? |
| 19:08.44 | Dustwhisper | those people i know run it (omen or assessment) is showing as not running threat-1.0 |
| 19:09.14 | Kaelten | onlything I can tell is that its probably australian or asian |
| 19:09.21 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: from AU |
| 19:09.29 | Mikk | define leacher? |
| 19:09.53 | Dustwhisper | Antiarc|Work would you know? |
| 19:10.09 | Matrix110 | somebody that downloads the whole repo or whole files.wowace.com and that every X minutes :P |
| 19:10.22 | packetlss | inetnum: 210.200.0.0 - 210.201.255.255 |
| 19:10.22 | packetlss | netname: APOL |
| 19:10.22 | packetlss | descr: Asia Pacific On-line Services Inc. |
| 19:10.23 | Wixi | Dustwhisper: do that have Threat-1.0 installed? |
| 19:10.28 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: I'm...not sure why. Perhaps if they're horribly out of date. |
| 19:10.38 | Antiarc|Work | Ask them what versions they're running? |
| 19:10.41 | Dustwhisper | my omen and the others is completely new |
| 19:10.43 | Kaelten | hrm actually looks like actually a ip assigned through a Taiwan ISP |
| 19:10.48 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Ok. |
| 19:10.59 | Dustwhisper | working for them, not for me |
| 19:11.00 | Kaelten | they hit the server for > 500MBs yesterday |
| 19:11.02 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Try this: |
| 19:11.13 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.14 | Dustwhisper | 40253 works on one of our mages |
| 19:11.16 | Antiarc|Work | Then have one of them reload their UI |
| 19:11.25 | Antiarc|Work | You should see an incoming query from them |
| 19:11.35 | Matrix110 | Kaelten just ban if he wasnt a leecher he will cry on the forum anyway:P |
| 19:11.38 | Dustwhisper | ok |
| 19:11.52 | Kaelten | heh |
| 19:11.59 | Kaelten | he did nearly 4 times the traffic of anyone else. |
| 19:12.15 | Antiarc|Work | o.0 |
| 19:12.20 | Mikk | Redirect him to another page saying "err, you're generating too much data. send mail to <foo@bar> if you've found what's causing it" |
| 19:12.24 | Antiarc|Work | Leecher = mirroring the files repository? |
| 19:12.29 | Kaelten | probably |
| 19:12.42 | Kjellviz | humm, pitbull doesent wanna update my raid grouping settings |
| 19:12.51 | Kaelten | although the full files repository is ~ 22GB |
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| 19:12.53 | Kjellviz | it refuses to let me change it |
| 19:13.17 | Matrix110 | 22GB Oo |
| 19:13.32 | Matrix110 | are there still the pre 2.0 etc. ? |
| 19:13.34 | deltron | holy crap |
| 19:13.41 | Matrix110 | orwell |
| 19:13.42 | Matrix110 | nvm |
| 19:13.45 | Matrix110 | all versions |
| 19:13.47 | Kaelten | thats since we came to this server right after the 2.0 patch |
| 19:13.49 | Matrix110 | takeup alot of space |
| 19:13.59 | Matrix110 | Tattle = each version 3MB |
| 19:14.07 | Kaelten | Cartographer |
| 19:14.07 | Mikk | >.< |
| 19:14.09 | Kaelten | ClearFont |
| 19:14.09 | Kaelten | ect |
| 19:14.14 | Matrix110 | Pitbull is quite big aswell |
| 19:14.19 | Matrix110 | and gets updated alot |
| 19:14.22 | Josh_Borke | mostly it's non-compressible data |
| 19:14.27 | Josh_Borke | would be my guess |
| 19:14.30 | Ominous | is there a mirror of the 2.1.2 interface changes that are in the ui & macros forum |
| 19:14.35 | Kaelten | anyone remember the syntax to add someone to iptables? |
| 19:14.36 | Kirkburn|sleep | >_> |
| 19:14.39 | durcyn | hell, PitBull is 3 megs uncompressed, Carto's 4.. |
| 19:15.00 | Mikk | Kaelten: do it in the web swerver with a redirect to an info page instead? |
| 19:15.08 | Antiarc|Work | iptables -I <chain> -p tcp --source-ip <ip> -J DENY |
| 19:15.12 | Antiarc|Work | or -J REJECT |
| 19:15.14 | jme | Kaelten: iptables -A input -P tcp -J DENY |
| 19:15.15 | jme | err |
| 19:15.17 | Kjellviz | anyone know why Pitbull doesent change my raidgrouping settings ? |
| 19:15.17 | Antiarc|Work | I don't remember |
| 19:15.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | ClearFont is 3.15MB uncompressed :) |
| 19:15.30 | Antiarc|Work | jme: I don't think Kaelten wnats to do that :P |
| 19:15.32 | Kjellviz | i want one long list of all members, not seperate parties |
| 19:15.36 | Kaelten | Mikk: I could :s |
| 19:15.43 | Kjellviz | but it doesent respond to changes i make |
| 19:15.48 | Matrix110 | Kirkburn|sleep why is CF2 tainting my raidui? :-( |
| 19:15.53 | Josh_Borke | iptables --source-ip <ip> -j DENY!!!!!!!111oneoneone |
| 19:15.54 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 19:15.58 | Matrix110 | and you arent sleeping i think! |
| 19:16.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | Matrix110, because you uncommented the commented lines? |
| 19:16.08 | jme | -s works for --source-ip iirc |
| 19:16.10 | Matrix110 | not that i know of |
| 19:16.14 | Josh_Borke | indeed |
| 19:16.17 | Matrix110 | didnt change a thing @CF2 |
| 19:16.35 | Matrix110 | but its kinda weird anyway |
| 19:16.44 | Matrix110 | sometimes it Pitbull sometimes CF2 |
| 19:16.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | weird |
| 19:16.52 | Matrix110 | *its |
| 19:16.57 | jme | it's been a while since i've used iptables |
| 19:17.31 | jme | You are the 999,999th visitor: Congratulations you WON! |
| 19:17.40 | Dustwhisper | hmm Antiarc|Work |
| 19:17.44 | Dustwhisper | bugsack is catching several errors from omen |
| 19:17.53 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: That'll do it :) |
| 19:17.54 | trh | Antiarc|Work: assertion failed : type(nil --[=[partyUnitsplayer]]=]) == string |
| 19:17.59 | Antiarc|Work | Can you put 'em in a pastey for me? |
| 19:18.00 | Antiarc|Work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo |
| 19:18.07 | trh | Antiarc|Work: in Threat-1.0.lua line 862 |
| 19:18.08 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Harmless but annoying! Will be fixing it soon :) |
| 19:19.25 | trh | Antiarc|Work: kk =) |
| 19:19.27 | durcyn | Kjellviz: delete your old pitbull_* directories and reinstall it, the naming convention changed. |
| 19:19.54 | Punkie` | ZealotOnAStick: I have made the change locally and it works perfect (for demoralizing roar too) but I'm in a raid right now and need to restart to update my SVN client so I can't commit it just yet |
| 19:20.04 | Dustwhisper | http://ace.pastey.net/57150 |
| 19:20.06 | Dustwhisper | there Antiarc|Work |
| 19:20.10 | Dustwhisper | the ones i found last |
| 19:20.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Punkie`: nice, thanks. |
| 19:21.16 | Dustwhisper | http://ace.pastey.net/57151 |
| 19:21.20 | Dustwhisper | Is from a fresh load |
| 19:21.57 | Antiarc|Work | o.0 |
| 19:21.58 | Antiarc|Work | that's a new one |
| 19:22.22 | Dustwhisper | run and fix =D can't do hydross without a good threatmeter :P |
| 19:22.58 | Josh_Borke | imagine what we did without threat meters! |
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| 19:23.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 19:23.05 | Josh_Borke | we must have sat around on our asses all day |
| 19:23.16 | durcyn | Josh_Borke: we figured shit out and behaved intuitively, without being button-mashing assmonkeys? |
| 19:23.23 | Josh_Borke | durcyn: NEVA! |
| 19:23.29 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: thats scary |
| 19:23.32 | durcyn | oh, right. don't know what came over me. |
| 19:24.17 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Can you verify that Assessment\Libs\Threat-1.0\ThreatBuffsData.lua exists? |
| 19:24.23 | Dustwhisper | let me check |
| 19:24.29 | Kjellviz | durcyn: ive never had pitbull installed before |
| 19:24.47 | Dustwhisper | it does |
| 19:24.52 | Dustwhisper | but i disabled both violation and assessment |
| 19:24.57 | Dustwhisper | before that last paste |
| 19:25.08 | durcyn | Kjellviz: before when? |
| 19:25.11 | Antiarc|Work | I'm looking at the first one - the second one doesn't tell me much :/ |
| 19:25.12 | durcyn | Kjellviz: before..yesterday? |
| 19:25.19 | Antiarc|Work | Was that all there was to it? |
| 19:25.51 | break19|ZzzzZzzz | ~seen rolfba |
| 19:25.59 | purl | break19|ZzzzZzzz: i haven't seen 'rolfba' |
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| 19:28.23 | Kjellviz | durcyn: before 40 mins ago |
| 19:29.39 | durcyn | Kjellviz: oh, well then. that should be fine. |
| 19:29.53 | durcyn | Kjellviz: you said it's not retaining raid frame configs? |
| 19:30.08 | nevcairiel | man error sharing in BugSack is really one of the best features yet :P |
| 19:31.12 | pb_ee1 | is there a project of adding a "only in combat" option to Violation? |
| 19:32.25 | ckknight | alright, back |
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| 19:34.30 | pb_ee1 | I'd like to have an overall data on one raid and it's nearly impossible with it ;p |
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| 19:38.34 | Dustwhisper | discovered the issue yet Antiarc|Work :P? |
| 19:38.55 | Antiarc|Work | Not yet- was there any more to that second error? |
| 19:38.58 | Antiarc|Work | It didn't tell me a whole lot :/ |
| 19:38.59 | Dustwhisper | wtf |
| 19:39.02 | Dustwhisper | it suddenly works now |
| 19:39.07 | Antiarc|Work | O_O |
| 19:39.20 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect you may have different versions of the lib in Assessment, Violation, and Omen |
| 19:39.27 | Antiarc|Work | They may be not-playing-nice, which is an issue. |
| 19:39.36 | durcyn | embeds, feh. |
| 19:39.36 | Dustwhisper | assessment/violation is not loaded |
| 19:39.43 | Dustwhisper | i went out and ticked them off |
| 19:39.46 | Dustwhisper | in addons |
| 19:40.10 | Antiarc|Work | Right, which may be why it's working now |
| 19:40.20 | Antiarc|Work | Since their copies of the lib aren't fighting with Omen's |
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| 19:42.21 | Antiarc|Work | If you could please, verify the revisions of those libraries |
| 19:42.27 | Nickenyfiken | Uh how do i escape '(' in lua? |
| 19:42.32 | Antiarc|Work | %( |
| 19:42.34 | Antiarc|Work | I'd like to know if there are specific versions that cause problems |
| 19:42.46 | Nickenyfiken | thanks |
| 19:43.01 | Kinkx | Is the US servers up? |
| 19:43.19 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r40745 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Now shows Curse of Weakness, Demoralizing Shout and Demoralizing Roar (Whichever is active as they do not stack). |
| 19:43.25 | bigzero | nope :-( |
| 19:43.29 | Kinkx | >< |
| 19:43.33 | Punkie` | ZealotOnAStick: There you go :) |
| 19:43.35 | sylvanaar | Mikk is there any way you can let me grey out the triangle |
| 19:43.43 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: [2007/06/19 22:19:10-1110-x1]: ...ns\PitBull\libs\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:946: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil): |
| 19:43.55 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Happens on pet summon? |
| 19:44.00 | ckknight | dunno |
| 19:44.02 | ckknight | user |
| 19:44.11 | Antiarc|Work | It'll be fixed when I commit the pet lib |
| 19:44.16 | ckknight | alright |
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| 19:44.24 | Antiarc|Work | It's harmless, but happens due to a race condition |
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| 19:45.12 | Fisker- | i liek quake wars! |
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| 19:45.40 | deltron | heh quake wars will be nice |
| 19:46.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40746 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add an arg check to newFrame to make sure parent is a table |
| 19:47.42 | Boubouille | Punkie` ! |
| 19:47.46 | Boubouille | your mod is no be workin ! |
| 19:47.55 | Ominous | if not table[key] then table[key] = value end or table[key] = value, which uses less memory overall |
| 19:49.15 | ckknight | second |
| 19:49.23 | ckknight | though depends on the situation |
| 19:49.32 | ckknight | if value might be different or so |
| 19:49.33 | Punkie` | Boubouille: why! |
| 19:49.38 | ckknight | actually, dunno |
| 19:49.42 | ckknight | it'd really depend |
| 19:49.49 | Punkie` | Boubouille: You need to be in a raidgroup and target a mob (not a player!) |
| 19:49.51 | Ominous | ok ill show you what i meabn |
| 19:50.22 | Ominous | self.Validate[name] = name or if self.Validate[name] then self.Validate[name] = name end |
| 19:51.09 | pb_ee1 | [Ammo]: Is there a project of adding an "only in combat" option to Violation? |
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| 19:54.35 | sbu | AHAHA |
| 19:54.39 | sbu | *hates blizzard* |
| 19:54.46 | Fisker- | *agrees with sbu* |
| 19:54.52 | Fisker- | it's fucking fail |
| 19:54.59 | sbu | that attunement stuff.. bah |
| 19:55.02 | Fisker- | not just ordinary fail |
| 19:55.04 | Fisker- | but fucking fail |
| 19:55.10 | Fisker- | it's remarking |
| 19:55.23 | Fisker- | s/remarking/remarkable |
| 19:55.38 | deltron | lol servers down till 6pm est |
| 19:55.39 | Fisker- | purl, you suck |
| 19:55.40 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 19:55.52 | trh | does anyone know the duration of "A'dal's Song of Battle" |
| 19:56.06 | hyperChipmunk | says 4pm edt |
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| 19:56.20 | hyperChipmunk | i.e. 4m from now |
| 19:56.46 | trh | its 21:56 in germany, so it shall last till tomorrow 4pm? |
| 19:57.33 | packetlss | attunement stuff? |
| 19:58.49 | sbu | mhhmm |
| 19:58.56 | sbu | that attunement stuff will come with 2.1.2? |
| 19:58.57 | sbu | or 2.2? |
| 19:58.59 | Megalon | trh: server restart = byebye buff? |
| 19:59.05 | Fisker- | sbu in a hotfix |
| 19:59.12 | sbu | Fisker-: so... when? :p |
| 19:59.13 | trh | Megalon: probably too.. but that's an exception today ;) |
| 19:59.15 | Fisker- | today |
| 19:59.17 | sbu | meh |
| 19:59.18 | sbu | okay |
| 19:59.19 | Fisker- | and tomorrow for EU i guess |
| 19:59.33 | trh | ya.. i meant tmw (i'm EU =) |
| 19:59.48 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/tier5.jpg |
| 19:59.50 | Fisker- | !!!!!!1 |
| 20:00.24 | sbu | mhhh - so every #)*$*$ guild can go to SSC know... nice... |
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| 20:00.49 | trh | sbu: if they can kill one boss in ssc, they'd have killed gruul and done heroics anyway |
| 20:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a good thing. stop bitching about it |
| 20:01.02 | packetlss | is it just SSC or Eye aswell? |
| 20:01.03 | ckknight | lol, Fisker- |
| 20:01.04 | Fisker- | exactly trh |
| 20:01.09 | jme | packetlss: both |
| 20:01.10 | Fisker- | so why should they be able to skip it? |
| 20:01.11 | NightHawkTheSane | packetlss: both |
| 20:01.14 | Fisker- | It's not difficult |
| 20:01.16 | packetlss | sweet |
| 20:01.37 | packetlss | where is this info from? |
| 20:01.46 | Fisker- | tigole |
| 20:02.04 | Mikk | ridiculous tbh |
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| 20:02.08 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07hC * r40747 10AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua: |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-22 | AceTab-2.0: hC branch |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-22 | - added 6th arg 'postfunc' to :RegisterTabCompletion. Accepts "Method" or function() and will be applied to the completion word before insertion |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-22 | - this can be used, for example, to turn an item name completion into a link, using GetItemInfo(). It should not affect the cycling and completion logic. |
| 20:02.16 | Mikk | if the attunements are too hard, you do not belong in that raid instance, period |
| 20:02.16 | NimbleRabit | WHY IS IT NOT UP |
| 20:02.17 | CIA-22 | - totally drycoded at this point, since no servers are up on which I can test this |
| 20:03.32 | shieldb | I really don't see the issue with lifting the attunement requirements from SSC/TK. It makes it easier for us to get in recruits and the keying requirement was more of a logistical headache then being really hard. |
| 20:03.35 | Fisker- | also that Mikk |
| 20:03.43 | trh | Fisker-: because it is annoying to have a member online which just hasn't the prequest done, or you ened a specific class and someone has a good equipped char but just not the prequest done |
| 20:03.46 | NimbleRabit | agreed shieldb |
| 20:03.52 | Fisker- | /gkick |
| 20:04.00 | Fisker- | or don't invite in the first place |
| 20:04.05 | NightHawkTheSane | shieldb: precisely. |
| 20:04.11 | NimbleRabit | They took out attunement to help people progress more quickly |
| 20:04.16 | Fisker- | If he joined to raid SSC and haven't bothered doing the prequest then he's gonna be trouble later on |
| 20:04.19 | trh | Fisker-: not every guild is a buch of hardcore gamers |
| 20:04.20 | shieldb | It's not like "Scrub Guild X" being able to also zone into TK and collect free loot from void reaver hurts us |
| 20:04.21 | NimbleRabit | so they could get to the other instances that still do have attunement |
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| 20:04.28 | Kjellviz | durcyn: hey, sry, was ingame setting up pitbull |
| 20:04.29 | trh | Fisker-: some have social skills... you know? |
| 20:04.30 | Fisker- | Then he doesn't need to join now |
| 20:04.40 | Xuerian | Punkie`: That's not actually my code heheh |
| 20:05.05 | Fisker- | so he can do it at a pace he wants or he can get the attunement from the scroll |
| 20:05.12 | Kjellviz | durcyn: and thats correct, when i use niagra to choose a raid grouping setup, it just forgets it, when using the popup menu (standard pitbull) it wont even let me switch |
| 20:05.14 | NimbleRabit | Getting rid of attunement makes perfect sense....they want guilds to be able to progress more quickly without hindrances so they can experience hyjal and BT which still do have attunements I believe |
| 20:05.18 | shieldb | I mean if the issue was "keying is too hard" then people aren't going to be able to kill anything in SSC or TK anyways - they get to wipe with 24 friends instead of 9 or 4 |
| 20:05.50 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110637185&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 20:05.56 | shieldb | the main issue I always heard brought up is "I can never seem to find a reasonable group to run mercy" or whatever heroic |
| 20:05.57 | deltron | because i forgot to paste it here :P |
| 20:06.07 | deltron | straight from Tigole's mouth |
| 20:06.14 | Fisker- | that's what you got guildies for |
| 20:06.39 | ulic | servers are starting to come back up now it looks |
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| 20:07.01 | shieldb | that's cool if you have everyone on all the time and that makes good groups, but even with the right guildies on, everyone is not always feeling like running a heroic |
| 20:07.06 | trh | Fisker-: ya.. like the 3 t4/5 equipped tank want to run 40x heroic to do all the prequests |
| 20:07.08 | ravagernl | ckknight: Did you get my request about changing the backdrop inset for PitBull? Because I can clearly see a transparent line when I make both my border and background black |
| 20:07.24 | Kalman| | Fisker-: It makes life much easier on rerolls and from a guild management perspective and the only downside is... what? |
| 20:07.25 | Xuerian | Mikk: Ping |
| 20:07.31 | Fisker- | trh he's gonna need it any case |
| 20:07.33 | Xuerian | Mikk: http://ace.pastey.net/57148 |
| 20:08.00 | Fisker- | Kalman| that functionality already exists |
| 20:08.16 | Kalman| | Fisker-: If you've killed Vash or KT. |
| 20:08.23 | Fisker- | yes |
| 20:08.27 | Kalman| | That's not enough. |
| 20:08.31 | Fisker- | yes it is |
| 20:08.34 | NimbleRabit | Servers are starting to come up guys |
| 20:08.36 | NimbleRabit | if you were wondering |
| 20:08.38 | ckknight | ravagernl: nope, gimme a pic |
| 20:08.43 | Kalman| | Blizzard disagrees. It's their game. They're right, you're wrong. End of story. |
| 20:08.50 | Fisker- | No |
| 20:08.58 | Fisker- | Blizzard disagrees, end of story |
| 20:09.14 | Fisker- | Your opinions are not > my opinions because your opinions happen to coincide with Blizzards |
| 20:09.31 | Kalman| | They're not >. |
| 20:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | no, but blizzards opinions ARE > your opinions, because it IS their game. |
| 20:09.33 | Kalman| | They are, however, correct. |
| 20:09.44 | Fisker- | no NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:09.44 | Kalman| | Because my opinions reflect the game as it is, not as I wish it would be. |
| 20:09.48 | durcyn | i can't believe you're getting worked up over this shit |
| 20:09.53 | durcyn | go have a beer, what the fuck |
| 20:10.13 | Kalman| | It's a game, and the attunements were annoying, not fun, for anyone who wasn't first wave. |
| 20:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: all opinions are not created equal. deal. :P |
| 20:10.22 | ravagernl | ckknight: Generally the border looks better for me when I select a background inset of 4 instead of 5 |
| 20:10.27 | break19 | my opinions are greater than all |
| 20:10.37 | break19 | and that is my opinion |
| 20:10.42 | Fisker- | so is repping Kalman| |
| 20:10.43 | shieldb | personally I'd more like to see the SSC attunement be "kill gruul" and the TK attunement be "kill mag" so there's at least some focus provided for guilds |
| 20:10.44 | ckknight | ravagernl: yea, you gonna come up with that pic I asked for? |
| 20:10.48 | Fisker- | Infact lets just all start out with Tier 6 |
| 20:10.55 | Kalman| | Fisker-: That wouldn't be any fun. |
| 20:10.56 | Fisker- | And 10 times all stats |
| 20:10.56 | shieldb | but having it easier to get into instances doesn't really hurt anyone |
| 20:11.09 | Kalman| | This isn't exactly turning the game into progressquest. |
| 20:11.11 | break19 | ckknight: rav has nude gnomes makin it with dwarves, too? |
| 20:11.19 | shieldb | I mean you could get a level 59 character (or 57? I forget when the quest was accessible) into naxx by doing the quest |
| 20:11.20 | break19 | oops. did I just reveal something? |
| 20:11.24 | shieldb | did that really ruin the raiding experience? |
| 20:11.25 | ravagernl | ckknight: yeah it's coming |
| 20:11.28 | Fisker- | Not having to do instaces like Heroic Shattered Halls on time isn't fun either |
| 20:11.50 | packetlss | forcing anyone to do anything =/= fun tbh |
| 20:11.52 | Kalman| | Fisker-: Actually, I'd argue that not *having* to do SH heroic just because I rerolled to fit guild needs is quite a bit more fun. |
| 20:11.58 | ckknight | packetlss, ≠|
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| 20:12.05 | Fisker- | packetlss and neither is repping |
| 20:12.10 | Mikk | Xuerian: oops?! |
| 20:12.11 | Fisker- | Nothing that requires work is fun apparently |
| 20:12.14 | Kalman| | And now we don't have to rep, either. |
| 20:12.17 | Fisker- | So lets just give them it from the start |
| 20:12.21 | Kalman| | Fisker-: Raiding is fun. |
| 20:12.22 | Xuerian | Mikk: assert's are fun :P |
| 20:12.38 | Fisker- | so is grouping |
| 20:12.43 | Kalman| | Fisker-: If you can find a group, sure. |
| 20:12.58 | Kalman| | s/group/decent group. |
| 20:13.04 | Mikk | if you can't find a group, what the hell do you expect to do in a raid instance? |
| 20:13.05 | shieldb | It just doesn't jive with me that I should have to break down my 25man raid (or 35 or whatever man roster) into five and ten man chunks and try to get everyone on the same page |
| 20:13.17 | Kalman| | Mikk: Raid with my guildies who don't feel like doing heroics at 1 AM after they finished raiding SSC? |
| 20:13.20 | packetlss | imo repping in limited amount is fun, but if your a total tool that has to have epic X first on the server i reckon it must suck |
| 20:13.21 | Wixi | Anyone got a working mirror for 2.1.2.? |
| 20:13.33 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40748 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: A few fixes for the module check boxes - they will disable all the options in the subgroup in most cases |
| 20:13.45 | Fisker- | Wixi what version? |
| 20:13.52 | Wixi | enUS |
| 20:13.57 | Mikk | shieldb: hurts like hell when half the guild sucks ass, i know |
| 20:13.58 | Xuerian | Mikk: Why I pointed that out is it's your random distribution bit, I'm not quite sure what that loop does |
| 20:14.10 | Mikk | Xuerian: i'm onto it |
| 20:14.17 | Wixi | i tried the fileplanet one but saying its not right |
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| 20:14.27 | Xuerian | Mikk: =P |
| 20:14.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: the thing is, no one's stopping you from doing all the attunement quests, 40 minute heroic SH, or whatever you want. So if you think it's fun, that's fine. it's just no longer -necessary- |
| 20:14.31 | Fisker- | i'll try to get it for you |
| 20:14.44 | Wixi | thanks :) |
| 20:14.53 | shieldb | it's not even about sucking or not - I don't think anyone in our guild had any trouble with their trials |
| 20:14.58 | packetlss | Wixi: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 20:15.06 | shieldb | having to make sure that everyone split up and got it done was an admin headache, not a fun thing |
| 20:15.18 | Wixi | ow nice, thanks Fisker- |
| 20:15.47 | shieldb | individually doing stuff like totn:mercy was a ton of fun - it felt like quite the accomplishment when I got that done and snagged the magtheridon quest |
| 20:15.52 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40749 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/ ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: now all buffs appear unless you specify them not to |
| 20:16.22 | shieldb | but having to make sure that your whole roster got everything done was nothing but a headache |
| 20:16.43 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/2.1.2/ |
| 20:16.48 | Mikk | Xuerian: only reason for that i can see is noone is allowed to masterloot O.O |
| 20:17.11 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: thunk |
| 20:17.26 | bigzero | you missed some code yesterday |
| 20:17.27 | Mikk | s/allowed to loot/is a candidate for masterloot assign/ |
| 20:17.44 | bigzero | 'onLeaveFunc', function() GameTooltip:Hide() end, on line 302 |
| 20:17.57 | Xuerian | Mikk: Yeah, that's what I thought, but, what if no candidate is found within 9 tries? |
| 20:18.04 | ravagernl | ckknight: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5378/uglyob4.png Especially near the portrait it looks ugly |
| 20:18.06 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r40750 10CallToArms/ (CallToArms.lua CallToArms.toc): CallToArms: syl-06 |
| 20:18.26 | Xuerian | I mean, it'd have to be weird circumstances... But I can see it happening |
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| 20:18.43 | ckknight | ravagernl: scale 100%? |
| 20:18.47 | ckknight | or different? |
| 20:18.50 | sbu | trh: mhh but trash farming in SSC w/o killing gruul? |
| 20:19.03 | sbu | nethervortex + random epics |
| 20:19.11 | Kalman| | sbu: Oh well? |
| 20:19.21 | Kalman| | Might as well complain about S2 weapons. |
| 20:19.22 | ravagernl | ckknight: UI scale at 80% and pitbull at 100, but I can see the 1px line at all times |
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| 20:19.34 | sbu | Kalman|: hmmm - what? |
| 20:19.35 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:19.39 | shieldb | the random epics for the most part aren't super special, and you could easily get the arena weapons if you don't want to do blacksmithing |
| 20:20.14 | Antiarc|Work | The arena weapons are pretty haxx. |
| 20:20.26 | trh | sbu: if they can kill enough trash in ssc to build the weapons in a reasonable time they can do gruul |
| 20:20.41 | jme | hm |
| 20:20.52 | jme | my guild hasn't made it to gruul or mag yet, we've only cleared kara completely twice |
| 20:20.59 | jme | and i haven't made it to kara yet... so |
| 20:21.08 | jme | it'll be a while yet before we see SSC |
| 20:21.11 | durcyn | so you're a casual player, leave the 25 man instances alone for a year or so |
| 20:21.23 | trh | jme: if you can clear kara, you can clear gruuls lair.. at least if you got some equip out of kara =) |
| 20:21.58 | sbu | trh: well - i know guilds who do lurker + hydross trash and have 5+ vortexes :) but okay... |
| 20:21.58 | jme | trh: i don't think we have the numbers to get a full gruuls raid, pretty small guild |
| 20:22.05 | jme | we have the dps, but we're slightly short on healers iirc |
| 20:22.06 | Dustwhisper | any mod that tells the raid when a tank misses a shieldslam that the tank can use |
| 20:22.06 | Dustwhisper | please? |
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| 20:22.18 | northernplato | quick question. when the wiki for PT3 says to run compresssplit.lua from the command line, is that in-game, or something like the command line / Run command in WinXP? |
| 20:22.21 | ckknight | durcyn: but by then WoW: Frozen Kingdom will come out |
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| 20:22.37 | durcyn | ckknight: bastards better do the south seas before northrend. |
| 20:22.46 | ravagernl | ckknight: I don't get it, where is the backdroptable defined in pitbull? |
| 20:22.47 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:22.59 | ckknight | <3 undermine |
| 20:23.11 | ckknight | ravagernl: :UpdateBorderAndBackdrop |
| 20:23.13 | trh | sbu: so they get one weapon a week... for 25 poeple |
| 20:23.33 | jme | i just care about legacy and sunfury |
| 20:23.54 | Xuerian | ckknight: This ScheduleEvent no longer returning a identifier thing.... What's with that? 0.o |
| 20:24.11 | ckknight | Xuerian: it's to plug a memory hole |
| 20:24.17 | ckknight | leak* |
| 20:24.29 | Dustwhisper | now omen is fucking up again Antiarc|Work :P |
| 20:24.33 | Dustwhisper | only showing mine etc |
| 20:24.34 | jme | and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28794 |
| 20:24.36 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: Any bugsack errors? |
| 20:24.37 | ckknight | Xuerian: it's a fringe case anyway, use a string UID if you want to manipulate it after the fact |
| 20:24.58 | Xuerian | I'm busy re-writing your mass-commit's doings :P |
| 20:26.01 | Dustwhisper | now it worked again |
| 20:26.13 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40751 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Hide the checkbox for "protected" addons (ones with the star icon) |
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| 20:26.41 | ravagernl | lol ckknight its UpdateBackdropAndBorder :) |
| 20:26.44 | durcyn | trh: meh, we had two blazefuries and a lionheart in the first two weeks |
| 20:27.00 | ckknight | whatever |
| 20:27.29 | trh | durcyn: yeah, but still they have to level that profession and stuff.. i don't think it's an issue :) |
| 20:27.40 | durcyn | trh: they're rotting now. |
| 20:27.45 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: :( |
| 20:29.27 | ravagernl | ckknight: pitbull.lua, line 3305, "inset = 5" |
| 20:29.36 | ckknight | k... |
| 20:30.10 | hyperChipmunk | I just made a branch commit |
| 20:30.14 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
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| 20:30.42 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40752 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: ops dont want to be able to remove mounts etc... |
| 20:31.22 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Anything one can do to make sticky bars show up? :( |
| 20:31.32 | Ominous | dodgizza: prey? |
| 20:31.40 | Ominous | i dont know, they work on my buffs |
| 20:31.51 | shieldb | hyperChipmunk, got some weirdness last night in bulkmail / bulkmail inbox |
| 20:31.55 | dodgizzla | Ominous: I see :D |
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| 20:32.10 | hyperChipmunk | shieldb: you can stick it in your eye |
| 20:32.13 | Ominous | dodgizza: and i need to test debufs but htey should work |
| 20:32.24 | shieldb | doing a take selected on 15 or so mails at once worked fine, but it started hanging for ~10 seconds per mail for the last couple |
| 20:32.39 | shieldb | and by hanging I mean "wow was completely frozen except for the mouse" |
| 20:33.12 | ravagernl | ehh pitbulls frames create a texture for every border part? Why? |
| 20:33.14 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Lemme check if it works on buffs |
| 20:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | shield yea, it does that |
| 20:33.29 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Just to make sure.. should sticky work, even though all other bars are disabled? |
| 20:33.36 | Ominous | yes |
| 20:33.37 | hyperChipmunk | not sure if it's a mail thing or what |
| 20:33.45 | shieldb | it did the same thing when I tried to send a batch of 12 mails, except the 10th one hung for 15 seconds, the 11th for 3 minutes, and the 12th hung wow for 14 minutes (I was curious as to if it would DC me or not) |
| 20:33.54 | hyperChipmunk | 3 mins? |
| 20:33.55 | Ominous | dodgizza: oh |
| 20:33.59 | shieldb | yeah |
| 20:34.01 | shieldb | three minutes |
| 20:34.02 | hyperChipmunk | ok that's not normal =x |
| 20:34.09 | shieldb | it froze the clock on fubar so I could keep track when it caught up :) |
| 20:34.10 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Ok, I currently only have debuffs as sticky, gonna check buffs when I got rezzed :> |
| 20:34.11 | Ominous | dodgizzla, no |
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| 20:34.17 | cotangent | hmm wonder how long mail 13 would have taken |
| 20:34.24 | shieldb | I was too scared to find out |
| 20:34.25 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Wait what? :D |
| 20:34.42 | Ominous | dodgizzla, enable the units, |
| 20:35.02 | sbu | trh: hmm 1 weap / week, yes - for 'free'? |
| 20:35.03 | pb_ee1 | [Ammo]: Is there a project of adding an "only in combat" option to Violation? |
| 20:35.09 | sbu | w/o killing gruul |
| 20:35.30 | northernplato | or, instead of the compresssplit.lua, is there any other way to test additions to PT3? |
| 20:35.34 | shieldb | sbu: more then that |
| 20:35.45 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Like, player/focus? But I don't want to show those bars :\ |
| 20:35.50 | Ominous | they wont |
| 20:35.51 | shieldb | you can get a couple weapons a week from raiding if you get the right drops |
| 20:35.52 | trh | sbu: for 25 (!) people - if they'd all do pvp they'd gain like 5*500 points, which are pretty much worth the same =) |
| 20:36.08 | pb_ee1 | Antiarc|Work: Is there a project of adding an option to display the threat of only one mob? |
| 20:36.11 | shieldb | whereas everyone in your raid can snag an arena weapon within 3-4 weeks guarenteed (unless they're REALLY bad) |
| 20:36.19 | pb_ee1 | (to Omen obviously) |
| 20:36.30 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: when is :PublishThreat() called ? is it called on reset ? |
| 20:36.34 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Okay, so I just enable player and all other bars (General too?) and only the bars under sticky should show? |
| 20:37.41 | Ominous | general will enable all the bars |
| 20:37.47 | Ominous | general just changes all the settings at once |
| 20:38.00 | shieldb | it's the same sort of thing as the tailoring discrepancy - you can hope for drops for nontailors while all your tailors get guarenteed equivalent / superior to tiered gear over the course of a few weeks |
| 20:38.08 | Ominous | if sticky is seleced for the ability it wont show in your individual bars |
| 20:38.33 | trh | sbu: oh.. the'd gain everyone 500 points, not only 5 of them ;) |
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| 20:39.41 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Will try :D |
| 20:39.55 | Ominous | dodgizzla, i cant promise they wont be buggy tho |
| 20:40.16 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: ping ? |
| 20:42.02 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Okay, Renew works :> |
| 20:42.13 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Configuring that is a bit.. confusing :D |
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| 20:42.37 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Can you add an option to show all de-/buffs under sticky? checking all spells is tedious |
| 20:42.56 | Ominous | nope, all has changed now |
| 20:43.04 | Ominous | you can only selct stuff when you have casted it |
| 20:43.15 | dodgizzla | Yeah I know |
| 20:43.15 | Ominous | but it has meant i have been able to remove all data |
| 20:43.21 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40753 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.lua: XLootMaster: Make randomization asserts more information in an attempt to find what's causing them |
| 20:43.25 | Ominous | actually i could |
| 20:43.27 | Mikk | Xuerian: ^ |
| 20:43.39 | dodgizzla | Ah it's just annoying to always check/uncheck all spells :D |
| 20:44.19 | Mikk | Xuerian: At this point, the only reason I can guess at is that NO group members are eligible to receive loot. If that is indeed the case, it'll now be reported at bit more clearly. If not, I'll at least know I've fucked up for sure. |
| 20:44.36 | Ominous | dodgizza: what do u mean |
| 20:44.54 | Ominous | it should save between sessions |
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| 20:46.12 | dodgizzla | Ominous: It does, it'd just think "everything you cast" and "all your custom effects" would be more straight-forward |
| 20:46.18 | dodgizzla | It's like emulating NECB :> |
| 20:46.56 | Ominous | humbug! |
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| 20:47.35 | Brutos | hey greetings, does anyone know an addon for resizing the chat window? |
| 20:48.02 | kergoth | you dont need an addon to resize a chat window |
| 20:48.09 | Brutos | i dont? |
| 20:48.15 | ckknight | ravagernl: so you think that it'd be better if inset = 4 by default? |
| 20:48.16 | kergoth | unlock it and grab the corner |
| 20:48.19 | kergoth | not hard |
| 20:48.26 | Brutos | how? |
| 20:48.30 | kergoth | what? |
| 20:48.39 | kergoth | right click on the chat tab, click the big obvious "lock" option |
| 20:48.40 | jme | right click the tab above the chat window and unlock it from the menu |
| 20:49.13 | Brutos | ah thank you guys |
| 20:49.19 | Brutos | didnt know that |
| 20:49.33 | jme | kergoth: ^5 |
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| 20:50.02 | kenlyric | uh oh. |
| 20:50.07 | kenlyric | what did bulkmail just do to my game? |
| 20:50.22 | hyperChipmunk | it broked everything |
| 20:51.06 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Okay, everything is as I wanted it now, much <3 :> |
| 20:51.12 | kenlyric | holy jesus crap. |
| 20:51.16 | dodgizzla | Ominous: But I got an error.. Would you prefer a pastey or forums post? |
| 20:51.17 | Ominous | dodzizzla: works? |
| 20:51.19 | pb_ee1 | [Ammo]: ping |
| 20:51.21 | Ominous | forums |
| 20:51.33 | Ominous | arena atm |
| 20:51.47 | CIA-22 | 03aurimas * r40754 10GlowFoSho/ (GlowFoSho.lua GlowFoSho.toc Locale-enUS.lua enchants.lua): |
| 20:51.47 | CIA-22 | GlowFoSho: |
| 20:51.47 | CIA-22 | -split enchant data into separate file |
| 20:51.47 | CIA-22 | -added option to filter out enchants not compatible with currently previewed weapon |
| 20:51.58 | kenlyric | it did indeed broked everything. |
| 20:52.02 | kenlyric | wouldn't even crash. |
| 20:52.45 | dodgizzla | Posted the error |
| 20:52.54 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Yeah take your time :> |
| 20:53.22 | break19 | dont tell him I did that. |
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| 20:53.30 | Ominous | dodgizza; btw on sticky ending early wont work untul you target or focus the persona gain |
| 20:53.51 | break19 | ckknight: welcome back. *whistles innocently* |
| 20:54.12 | ravagernl | ckknight: yes, a background inset of 4 would be better :) |
| 20:54.14 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Hm what do you mean? I just had it working for ~2 minutes but did not notice anything weird :D |
| 20:54.17 | Xuerian | Mikk: Get Punkie`to be your guineapig :P |
| 20:54.51 | Ominous | didgizzla: say you fear, it breaks after 5 secs the bar wont hide until the 12 secs are uo |
| 20:54.59 | dodgizzla | I see |
| 20:55.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40755 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change default inset to 4 instead of 5. |
| 20:55.25 | dodgizzla | Bummer, but I mainly need it for priest debuffs (VE, VT, Shadow Weaving) |
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| 20:56.12 | trh | Antiarc|Work: my flatmate reports that sometimes omen paints people in wrong colors, i.e. warlocks in the color of a shaman |
| 20:56.55 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40756 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Few optimizations with setting bar heights for realtime graphs |
| 20:57.05 | KarlThePagan | hey guys... I just felt the need to say "I love you #wowace" after spending time in ##java and #eclipse |
| 20:57.17 | CIA-22 | 03aurimas * r40757 10GlowFoSho/GlowFoSho.toc: |
| 20:57.17 | CIA-22 | GlowFoSho: |
| 20:57.17 | CIA-22 | -addon version updated to 1.3 in toc |
| 20:57.28 | dodgizzla | Ominous: On another note.. what is "Improved Shadow Word: Pain"? Did you mean Shadow Vulnerability? And could you add "Prayer of Mending" to priests' buffs? |
| 20:57.35 | sylvanaar | KarlThePagan - im sorry you spent time in those places |
| 20:57.39 | Ominous | dodgizza; srug |
| 20:57.43 | Cryect | Why are you spending time in those places |
| 20:57.49 | jme | lol |
| 20:58.02 | KarlThePagan | sylvanaar, ;) I've been in ##java for 3-4 years but I forgot how bad it was |
| 20:58.02 | Ominous | dodgizza: update then ittle be gone forever ina puff of magic |
| 20:58.03 | Trancer | probly to learn java to get eclipse to work |
| 20:58.08 | dodgizzla | Ominous: I see :D |
| 20:58.10 | KarlThePagan | and why I stopped idling there |
| 20:58.26 | Cryect | Is eclipse actually useful now a days haven't used it in years |
| 20:58.36 | KarlThePagan | Cyrez, Eclipse RCP is a very sensitive beast |
| 20:58.43 | pb_ee1 | Adirelle: ping |
| 20:58.49 | Adirelle | pb_ee1: pong |
| 20:58.50 | trh | Cryect: if you don't run vista 64 it's nice |
| 20:58.51 | Mikk | Punkie`: Yoyo.. that XLootMaster assert? Was it a one-off? I've extended the error messages now and would appreciate if you could try to get it to happen again. |
| 20:58.55 | Trancer | sensitive beast is a pretty good description |
| 20:58.59 | KarlThePagan | I've been banging my head on a few of those "last mile" issues to push WAU2 out |
| 20:59.00 | sylvanaar | Eclipse is aptly name - so big it blox out the sun |
| 20:59.07 | pb_ee1 | Adirelle: Is there a project of adding an "only in combat" option to Violation? ;) |
| 20:59.13 | kenlyric | you think the third time I start up I can remember to disable bulkmail? |
| 20:59.15 | Trancer | if it works, don't touch it, or it will be troublesome |
| 20:59.19 | KarlThePagan | sylvanaar, you can't expect anything less from IBM |
| 20:59.20 | Adirelle | pb_ee1: dunno, I'm not working on it anymore |
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| 20:59.38 | pb_ee1 | Hoo too bad, who are the remaining authors? Rabbit & Ammo? |
| 20:59.49 | sylvanaar | KarlThePagan IBM bet thier business on java |
| 21:00.04 | break19 | sylvanaar: poor IBM |
| 21:00.06 | KarlThePagan | oh... they've got a lot more than java |
| 21:00.19 | Trancer | IBM is doing business with PHP lately |
| 21:00.22 | KarlThePagan | eSeries / AIX crap is still out there... and Tivoli |
| 21:00.34 | ckknight | brb |
| 21:00.42 | pb_ee1 | It also seems that Violation creates a _lot_ of lag on my computer |
| 21:00.58 | ravagernl | Pitbull looks perfect now with my seteel texture :D |
| 21:01.03 | *** part/#wowace Kjellviz (n=opera@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 21:01.10 | ravagernl | s/seteel/steel/ |
| 21:01.13 | break19 | Trancer: they sure as hell arent doing business with apple any more. *gives IBM the bird* screw you and your way-behind-schedule G-series RISC processors. |
| 21:01.20 | pb_ee1 | ~seen rabbit |
| 21:01.23 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 664d 21h 31m 21s ago, saying: '+in'. |
| 21:01.41 | pb_ee1 | oO |
| 21:01.47 | ravagernl | pb_ee1: rabbit = vhaarr on irc |
| 21:01.52 | pb_ee1 | argh |
| 21:01.54 | sylvanaar | KarlThePagan i know - but it all relates back to java ultimately |
| 21:02.07 | bigzero | is there something on wowace that does what FGTradeLacker does? http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3519 |
| 21:02.08 | pb_ee1 | lol I was surprised by the 664 days ;p |
| 21:02.11 | Adirelle | sylvanaar: is there any command line options to WAU ? |
| 21:02.16 | sylvanaar | Adirelle yes |
| 21:02.25 | Adirelle | sylvanaar: but no --help ? :/ |
| 21:02.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad|away] by ChanServ |
| 21:02.31 | sylvanaar | Adirelle no --help |
| 21:02.39 | Saroz | Has anyone compared Pitbull with aguf in performance? With DogTag and all :| Can't decide if I should try and migrate or not |
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| 21:02.44 | sylvanaar | Adirelle but it was posted on the WAU forum |
| 21:02.48 | break19 | unless one is "wau --runonmacs" I aint interested :) :) |
| 21:02.55 | Adirelle | sylvanaar: on SF.net ? |
| 21:03.01 | sylvanaar | here |
| 21:03.20 | break19 | on a serious note, has anyone been able to successfully run it under mono yet? |
| 21:03.28 | BankZ | Pitbull > agUF |
| 21:03.42 | Gnarfoz | can I somehow call macros through some slash command? |
| 21:03.46 | BankZ | I went to Pitbull and never looked back at agUF |
| 21:04.18 | sylvanaar | Adirelle they are : update, refresh, noprompts, autoexit, deps |
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| 21:05.00 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: ping |
| 21:05.07 | sylvanaar | break19 WAU2 is in java |
| 21:05.14 | break19 | sylvanaar: eta? |
| 21:05.24 | sylvanaar | break19 ask KarlThePagan |
| 21:05.34 | trh | sylvanaar: i think kaelten said so |
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| 21:06.12 | trh | ckknight: is there any way Parser-3.0 could report the servername from source/recipient too? :/ |
| 21:06.22 | ckknight | no, impossible |
| 21:06.23 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 21:06.32 | trh | ckknight: thought so.. damn combat log :/ |
| 21:06.36 | ckknight | trh: wish it was possible. |
| 21:06.49 | Mikk | ckknight: Any idea as to why AceOption toggles with tables as passValue:s would not be shown at all? not in console, neither in dewdrop |
| 21:07.04 | trh | ckknight: ya.. me too.. guess i have to save name<=>realm within mouseovers |
| 21:07.22 | break19 | Kaelten: we were discussing eta on wau2 and sylv said to ask karl, and someone piped in with your name. |
| 21:07.24 | sylvanaar | Adirelle you can do /update /autoexit that will update from the commandline |
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| 21:07.46 | Mikk | ckknight: Any idea as to why AceOption toggles with tables as passValue:s would not be shown at all? not in console, neither in dewdrop |
| 21:07.52 | trh | Kaelten: he asked if WAU2 was made in java, i thought that you said so ;) |
| 21:07.58 | break19 | oops he got back in time. |
| 21:08.06 | Adirelle | sylvanaar: thx, was trying to get the doc but my computer is sluggish |
| 21:08.08 | ckknight | Mikk: sure don't |
| 21:08.11 | break19 | trh: that wasnt the discussion :) |
| 21:08.12 | Kaelten | ya wau2 is in java, and we're looking at a week or two |
| 21:08.17 | break19 | week or two. woo |
| 21:08.28 | break19 | wb clad |
| 21:08.32 | Adirelle | ckknight: you did it again... |
| 21:08.37 | ckknight | NO U |
| 21:08.41 | trh | break19: damn.. misread teh line;) |
| 21:08.53 | cladhaire | hai |
| 21:08.55 | break19 | cladhaire: btw, loving clique on my priest alt |
| 21:09.02 | Zeksie | do we have any idea if the lockups are fixed yet? |
| 21:09.09 | ckknight | Zeksie: please test. |
| 21:09.13 | ckknight | Zeksie: only way to find out. |
| 21:09.15 | trh | Kaelten: if you need betatesters, ask ;) |
| 21:09.21 | Zeksie | i would.... but can't. we patch tomorrow |
| 21:09.26 | cladhaire | break19: awesome |
| 21:09.29 | break19 | especially since the wife got herself a new mouse, and I got her hand-me down with 6 buttons heh |
| 21:09.32 | Zeksie | which is why i'm asking :) |
| 21:09.38 | Kaelten | ya, more to the point we're going to go into beta in a week or two |
| 21:10.05 | break19 | Kaelten: I'm always up for punishment, errr beta testing |
| 21:10.10 | Mikk | ckknight: nvm, ammo's code is pwning me. |
| 21:10.11 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:10.34 | break19 | brb, wife aggro |
| 21:10.41 | trh | break19: fade!!! ;) |
| 21:10.46 | khaki[wtf] | lol |
| 21:10.57 | trh | feign death might work too ;) |
| 21:11.31 | Dustwhisper | Antiarc|Work you sill around? |
| 21:11.32 | Dustwhisper | *still |
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| 21:12.04 | ravagernl | vanish! |
| 21:12.31 | Mikk | [Ammo] / vhaarr: Would you mind educating me on how Violation's local new() handler works with passing args? It looks to me like it'll create an integer-indexed table if i pass in args, is this correct? |
| 21:12.40 | break19 | heh, she was on the floor with the dogs.. couldnt get up.. pregnant women have that problem sometimes lol |
| 21:14.17 | Fisker- | i am thinking of some drama |
| 21:14.29 | break19 | Fisker-: barrens chat on the brain? |
| 21:14.31 | Fisker- | lol |
| 21:14.36 | Fisker- | got a second quake wars key |
| 21:14.42 | BankZ | [Ammo] / vhaarr: Any chance of added an option to filter out non-combat data? Cuz the healing data currently usnt very useful |
| 21:14.43 | Fisker- | nah |
| 21:15.06 | Fisker- | perhaps i should leave my guild and cause so massive drama that i kill the guild |
| 21:15.09 | jme | Fisker-: give |
| 21:15.16 | Fisker- | nevers jme |
| 21:15.22 | jme | :`( |
| 21:15.43 | jme | s'ok, i'm about to sign up for warhammer beta |
| 21:16.01 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: [Ammo] & vhaarr are unavailable at the moment. Please leave a message to purl and hope they will ever read it :P |
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| 21:17.05 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Uuuh, just updated. Perfect now |
| 21:17.17 | break19 | damn you dodgizzla.. |
| 21:17.25 | break19 | my server isnt up yet :/ |
| 21:17.31 | Saroz | OK! I'm installing Pitbull.. flee!!! |
| 21:17.35 | Mikk | Fisker-: You're not causing massive drama already? o.O |
| 21:17.44 | Mikk | Fisker-: Split personality? One on IRC, one in-game? o.O |
| 21:17.50 | chutwig | trh: i'm extremely late but i also have the problem with omen getting the wrong colors |
| 21:17.53 | chutwig | what was the response?!?! |
| 21:18.12 | trh | chutwig: none i think ;) |
| 21:18.15 | chutwig | nuuuuu |
| 21:18.21 | trh | Antiarc|Work: ping |
| 21:18.44 | trh | no pong, he's laggy ;) |
| 21:19.15 | break19 | trh: thats not the correct syntax, you need to add in inettime after PING |
| 21:19.38 | dodgizzla | break19: I'm in Europe.. my server is still up, but goes down in 4 hours :D |
| 21:19.49 | dodgizzla | And probably it'll take like 2 days until it's back up... |
| 21:19.51 | break19 | oops, I let my irc geek out.. *grabs a pitchfork* "get back in there and STAY" |
| 21:20.05 | trh | break19: uh.. a real icmp ping is ECHO <time> and not ping <time> ;) |
| 21:20.18 | TecnoBrat | not an IRC ping |
| 21:20.25 | break19 | trh: wasnt thinking of icmp, was thinking ctcp :) |
| 21:20.27 | trh | irc pings are boring :) |
| 21:20.29 | TecnoBrat | irc ping is PING <time> |
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| 21:21.19 | TecnoBrat | eww, too many ckknight's |
| 21:21.39 | Saroz | hrrm, what's this crashing bug |
| 21:21.42 | ckknight_ | :-( |
| 21:21.42 | trh | he's probably preparing a irc takeover ;) |
| 21:22.20 | break19 | ckknight: did you piss off that peer guy? he's been nuking you all day. heh |
| 21:22.31 | chutwig | mmm peer jokes |
| 21:22.36 | chutwig | old and outdated since 1987 |
| 21:22.39 | ckknight | I swear something's wrong with my router |
| 21:22.48 | break19 | chutwig: true, but irc geeks never age. |
| 21:22.58 | Saroz | MEH! Installed pitbull and my mem went up by 2 MB! |
| 21:23.09 | chutwig | OH GOD |
| 21:23.10 | break19 | GAH! whats he doing back out??! *grabs a .357 this time and shoots the bastid* |
| 21:23.20 | trh | Saroz: we're all going to DIE! |
| 21:23.27 | break19 | there.. my irc geek is dead, thank god. |
| 21:23.33 | chutwig | 640 kb ought to be enough for anyone amirite |
| 21:23.55 | Saroz | Just wipe! |
| 21:23.58 | ckknight | Saroz: so turn off some modules. |
| 21:24.04 | Saroz | working on it |
| 21:24.07 | break19 | chutwig: if 640k isnt, then by god 4M should be |
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| 21:24.36 | chutwig | i spent some time earlier starting to learn about quartz drawing commands |
| 21:24.44 | chutwig | so much handholding these days |
| 21:24.52 | chutwig | but i don't think i have the mental capacity to learn assembly any more |
| 21:25.09 | trh | 150k is enough: http://www.trackmania.org/fr-041_debris.zip ;) |
| 21:25.20 | trh | ok.. 180.. damnit ;) |
| 21:25.21 | break19 | the only assembly I know requires an electrical current and a face shield.. |
| 21:26.01 | break19 | I started off by learning C64 basic. and things kinda went downhill from there. lol |
| 21:26.14 | chutwig | i started with apple II basic but never really cared much |
| 21:26.26 | sylvanaar | nice, me too |
| 21:26.42 | kaiden | dunno if it's been reported but raid target icons are causing errors on pitbull sorry if it's been reported already |
| 21:26.44 | break19 | chutwig: apple didnt have color screens, the commodore did. woo, color.. heh |
| 21:26.48 | sylvanaar | 6402 assembly |
| 21:26.50 | kaiden | in a group right now so figured i'd just throw that out there |
| 21:26.51 | chutwig | i think the only language i can claim to actually KNOW is PHP, but PHP is really simple and way too forgiving |
| 21:26.53 | Kinkx | Are the US servers up yet? :o |
| 21:26.58 | break19 | Kinkx: some |
| 21:27.06 | sylvanaar | 1 MHz |
| 21:27.07 | chutwig | oh and occasionally i am inspired to write something in perl or bash |
| 21:27.09 | pb_ee1 | Antiarc|Work: ping |
| 21:27.16 | Kinkx | Just curious if people got their armored netherwing drake :) |
| 21:27.21 | chutwig | i've set myself to learning objective-C and cocoa for about, oh, the twentieth time |
| 21:27.24 | chutwig | somebody in my guild got one |
| 21:27.27 | Kalman| | Kinkx: Guildies got theirs. |
| 21:27.28 | break19 | chutwig: now bash... I love bash |
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| 21:27.36 | sylvanaar | 64K of ram |
| 21:27.42 | chutwig | break19: shell scripting destroys my will to live |
| 21:27.51 | Kinkx | Kalman| - Cool :) |
| 21:28.08 | kaiden | ckknight, guess you were crashing when i put it out there, dunno if this has been reported already but when raid target icons are set pitbull is throwing errors, if you need i can turn the module back on and copy the error |
| 21:28.19 | ckknight | what error? |
| 21:28.25 | ckknight | yea, I need the error |
| 21:28.25 | kaiden | in the middle of steamvaults and a warlock used an eye of kilrog to mark some targets |
| 21:28.30 | kaiden | hold i'll get him to do it again so we can get it |
| 21:28.41 | Kinkx | Kalman| - Any screenshots of them anywhere? :) |
| 21:29.22 | Kalman| | Kinkx: They're all up in NS buying new weapons, and I'm avoiding the hell out of that zone. |
| 21:29.23 | break19 | chutwig: heh, the day after I got my first mac (os x) I tinkered with the system scripts to the point where I finally said "ok, this was a bad idea" and reinstalled. |
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| 21:29.35 | Kinkx | Hehe ^^ |
| 21:29.37 | kaiden | ckknight, PitBull_RaidTargetIcon\RaidTargetIcon.lua:63: Bad argument #2 to `newFrame'. table expected got nil |
| 21:29.41 | sylvanaar | my last mac was os 7.1 |
| 21:29.43 | Saroz | OK.. time for stupid questions, how do I change the width of frames in pitbull |
| 21:29.52 | ckknight | omg |
| 21:29.57 | ckknight | that's what was causing the crashes. |
| 21:29.57 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 21:30.06 | ckknight | finally. |
| 21:30.28 | kaiden | :) i live to serve *lol* |
| 21:30.35 | ckknight | kaiden: Slouken said the crashes were caused by textures being shown when not parented |
| 21:30.42 | break19 | so, wait.. it wasnt blizz's fault after all? |
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| 21:31.07 | hyperChipmunk | any hard crash is blizzard's fault |
| 21:31.13 | ckknight | oh, it was totally blizz's fault |
| 21:31.25 | hyperChipmunk | it just could have been worked around |
| 21:31.46 | ckknight | kaiden: so how can I reproduce this? |
| 21:31.57 | ckknight | just set an icon on someone? |
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| 21:32.06 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40758 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:32.06 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 21:32.06 | CIA-22 | -- 32686 Mingo's Fortune Giblets, 32685 Ogri'la Chicken Fingers |
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| 21:32.32 | kaiden | ckknight, we had a warlock summon an eye of kilrogg and use his eye of killrog to go around a corner |
| 21:32.37 | kaiden | to put a raid target icon on something |
| 21:32.42 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:34.32 | Saroz | mmm I am digging Pitbull so far |
| 21:34.46 | kaiden | Pitbull is the thing that sex and cool are made out of |
| 21:34.47 | kaiden | lol |
| 21:35.15 | Saroz | the menu lags when you open it, only thing so far |
| 21:35.16 | Saroz | :p |
| 21:36.00 | kaiden | i haven't had that problem yet |
| 21:37.07 | CIA-22 | 03smoere * r40759 10Enigma/ (. 2do.txt core.lua): |
| 21:37.07 | CIA-22 | Enigma: |
| 21:37.07 | CIA-22 | - externals and code cleanup |
| 21:37.16 | [Liquidor] | What did Elvis die of? |
| 21:37.34 | yacoob | lead poisoning, no? |
| 21:38.06 | yacoob | or not, hm. Obesity then. |
| 21:38.24 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:38.25 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296441268&postId=2962152427&sid=1#0 |
| 21:38.26 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:38.51 | Fisker- | He's complaing about not being able to get the other resto pvp gear because he made a mistake |
| 21:38.52 | durcyn | wikipedia lists elvis' death as "polypharmaceutical" |
| 21:39.13 | Fisker- | and i told him it was scammers like this: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=293109848&postId=2949130721&sid=1#32 who made sure they didn't restore items like that to people |
| 21:39.17 | Fisker- | Look at the posters names |
| 21:39.19 | Fisker- | i lol'd :D |
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| 21:39.38 | kergoth | whats Enigma? |
| 21:39.51 | durcyn | kergoth: looks like chat encryption |
| 21:39.58 | Fisker- | ah |
| 21:39.59 | Smoere | kergoth: just some encryption for public channels |
| 21:40.04 | Fisker- | thought you meant the machine |
| 21:40.10 | Fisker- | but same shit different medium :P |
| 21:41.42 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:41.57 | rubik | pitbull ready for public consumption yet? (to switch from agUF) or do i wait longer? heh |
| 21:42.20 | ckknight | arguable |
| 21:43.01 | Saroz | I switched to Pitbull now, all fear |
| 21:43.04 | anholt | rubik: most of our raid has moved to pitbull, and are enjoying it. healers are not 100% sold on it, and there are some bugs at group position changes. |
| 21:43.22 | durcyn | i've still not found anything that's even close to perfectraid. |
| 21:43.31 | dodgizzla | Grid. The hawtness. |
| 21:43.42 | rubik | ckknight: pitbull's player cast bar (if it has one.. module, i assume?) can be disabled/hidden without intefering with the blizz one, i assume? (something agUF cannot do) |
| 21:43.43 | durcyn | interactlines and animated portraits are well and good, but i need information, not shiny stuff. |
| 21:44.10 | durcyn | custom debuff filtering and text? yes please. |
| 21:44.15 | rubik | anholt: sounds good; thanks for the info |
| 21:44.53 | rubik | haha |
| 21:45.01 | Matrix110 | rubik you can let Pitbull hide it or not hide it |
| 21:45.20 | [Liquidor] | What's wrong with PitBull as it is now? |
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| 21:45.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:45.28 | [Liquidor] | Haven't had a prob with it yet so. |
| 21:45.32 | rubik | cool.. cause if you tell agUF to hide it, it forces blizzard's default to on.. and no other addon can hide it (i.e. quartz, etc.) |
| 21:45.48 | durcyn | nothing's wrong with it, it's just not in a format that i personally care for. to each their own. |
| 21:45.52 | ckknight | rubik: blah, the cast bar is separate from the blizzard one |
| 21:45.54 | ckknight | you can hide/show the blizzard one separately from the player one |
| 21:46.23 | rubik | sweet |
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| 21:48.19 | NimbleRabit | how do I make aloft show people's titles? |
| 21:49.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40760 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - verify existence of frame.overlay |
| 21:49.25 | ckknight | kaiden: okay, try that on for size |
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| 21:54.26 | Saroz | OK.. why didnt I move to pitbull sooner |
| 21:54.26 | Saroz | ffs |
| 21:54.29 | Saroz | I blame you all |
| 21:54.50 | jme | from what.. ag_UF? |
| 21:54.51 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 21:54.57 | ckknight | silly Saroz |
| 21:54.58 | Saroz | yes |
| 21:55.03 | ckknight | you know it's my work |
| 21:55.04 | Shirik | I don't blame you |
| 21:55.06 | Shirik | the author's a noob |
| 21:55.11 | ckknight | NO U |
| 21:55.12 | Saroz | everything ckknight touches turns to gold! |
| 21:55.13 | ckknight | UR DUM |
| 21:55.16 | Shirik | =P |
| 21:55.19 | jme | lol |
| 21:55.23 | ckknight | I'm a modern day Midas Mulligan |
| 21:55.30 | Saroz | yus |
| 21:55.39 | jme | yay home time + wow time in 5 |
| 21:56.04 | jme | i'm rolling a rogue and a mage when i get bored on my hunter... |
| 21:56.05 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40761 10ItemValue/ (Data_Jewels.lua ItemValue.lua): |
| 21:56.05 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 21:56.05 | CIA-22 | - Rearranged options |
| 21:56.05 | CIA-22 | - Possibility to disable new found jewels, too |
| 21:56.17 | jme | so far i think i like the rogue better than the mage, and the mage is 20 and the rogue is 5 =/ |
| 21:57.31 | ckknight | I should really work on the layout system today |
| 21:57.34 | ckknight | bah |
| 21:57.39 | ckknight | it's complex... |
| 21:58.01 | Cryect | whats this 640k? |
| 21:58.07 | Saroz | Lolol, "(Tree)" haha |
| 21:58.10 | Cryect | bwah was scrolled up :-p |
| 21:58.38 | ckknight | Saroz: what? you're a tree. |
| 21:58.44 | Saroz | no |
| 21:58.47 | Adirelle | ckknight: got KTM output working inside ThreatLib, posting diff pastey soon |
| 21:58.48 | ckknight | whoever has that on them |
| 21:58.50 | Trancer | The druid detection is somewhat off when you switch targets |
| 21:58.58 | ckknight | Trancer: is it? |
| 21:58.59 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 21:59.03 | Trancer | Had some trouble y'day |
| 21:59.10 | Trancer | Swapped between a boomkin a tree and a bear |
| 21:59.14 | Fisker- | this is gonna be fucking awesome |
| 21:59.18 | Trancer | It listed the bear as boomkin and the tree as a bear |
| 21:59.35 | jme | tree hugging bear? |
| 21:59.45 | Punkie` | wait a minute |
| 21:59.54 | Trancer | Also the default value is tree I guess? The update is not instant on the status, it changes after a bit? |
| 22:00.10 | Punkie` | KTM output from threatlib without an external addon? do not want :I |
| 22:01.18 | Mikk | Sounds OK to me |
| 22:01.22 | Mikk | Hardly lots of code |
| 22:01.43 | Punkie` | im happy to recieve threat values from idiots |
| 22:01.45 | Mikk | Just gimme an off switch |
| 22:01.56 | Punkie` | but imo it should be my choice if i want to send those idiots my threat values :P |
| 22:02.00 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 22:02.05 | Mikk | Punkie`: that's what toggles are for |
| 22:02.15 | hyperChipmunk | the arena vendor area on my server is a madhouse |
| 22:02.16 | Mikk | Punkie`: Did you see my change to XLootMonitor? |
| 22:02.28 | Punkie` | nope, did it fix the bug? |
| 22:02.51 | Mikk | No, it increased the reporting for it |
| 22:03.01 | Mikk | Cause the only reason I can see for that happening is that the API reports zero people eligible for loot |
| 22:03.15 | Punkie` | oh :o |
| 22:03.20 | Punkie` | well it only happened twice all night |
| 22:03.23 | Punkie` | hmm |
| 22:03.30 | Punkie` | I think I know why it could have happened |
| 22:03.38 | Punkie` | if someone goes offline, and the loot is rolled to him? |
| 22:03.48 | Mikk | possibly yeah |
| 22:03.49 | Punkie` | (or her) |
| 22:03.54 | Mikk | well hrm waitasec |
| 22:03.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40762 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - manually update auras when :UpdateAllForUnit is called |
| 22:04.05 | Mikk | you had group loot first and then tried to switch to master? |
| 22:04.18 | ckknight | Trancer: okay, there we go |
| 22:04.25 | Punkie` | definately not |
| 22:04.32 | Mikk | master all the way? |
| 22:04.38 | Punkie` | yup |
| 22:04.40 | Trancer | ckknight: thanks :-) |
| 22:04.44 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dontlikewherethisisgoing.jpg |
| 22:04.47 | Fisker- | i did it for the lulz |
| 22:04.48 | Mikk | mkay.. then it's a bit weird |
| 22:04.52 | Mikk | anyway, i've upped the reporting a LOT |
| 22:04.55 | Mikk | so if it happens again I'll know more |
| 22:05.00 | Mikk | so please grab a fresh copy =) |
| 22:05.03 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40763 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 22:05.03 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 22:05.03 | CIA-22 | - Added Adal's Song of Battle |
| 22:05.03 | CIA-22 | - Bugfix for updating after inventory item change |
| 22:05.29 | Punkie` | Mikk, raid is over now, but I will have it in the future :) |
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| 22:05.37 | Punkie` | Fisker-: Read the closetgnome readme you nub! |
| 22:05.45 | Saroz | ckknight, wtb castbars attached to the sides of a unit and growing upwards |
| 22:05.53 | Fisker- | NO U Punkie` |
| 22:05.58 | Punkie` | I did |
| 22:05.59 | Punkie` | ! |
| 22:06.06 | Fisker- | i don't use closetgnome |
| 22:06.06 | Fisker- | "! |
| 22:06.15 | Punkie` | OH U |
| 22:06.18 | ckknight | Saroz: hey, care to do me a favor? |
| 22:06.27 | ckknight | wait, no, nvm |
| 22:06.36 | Saroz | shush |
| 22:06.38 | ckknight | Saroz: basically, I want _all_ bars to be able to go vertical |
| 22:06.48 | Saroz | ah yea, I remember that post on the UI forums |
| 22:07.07 | ckknight | actually that post was about bar reversal |
| 22:07.43 | Aens|Superiority | getting a repeated error in pitbull. Pitbull_CombatText\CombatText.lua:152: attempt to index field 'combatText' (a nil value) |
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| 22:09.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40764 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull_CombatText - bugfix when frame.combatText is missing. |
| 22:09.08 | ckknight | Aenslaed: there we go |
| 22:09.19 | Trancer | talk about error handling ;-) |
| 22:09.30 | Saroz | argg Pitbull error, DogTag.lua:3915: attempt to index global 'auraQueue' (a nil value) |
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| 22:09.41 | Aenslaed | ckknight: ty! |
| 22:09.42 | Fisker- | can i change password on an account in unix as root without knowing the previous password? |
| 22:09.58 | Saroz | ckknight, above error is when switching targets -- latest SVN |
| 22:10.02 | durcyn | Fisker-: yes |
| 22:10.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40765 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - rearrange the auraQueue upvalue |
| 22:10.11 | Saroz | :p |
| 22:10.12 | ckknight | Saroz: there we are. |
| 22:10.15 | Saroz | <3 |
| 22:10.26 | ckknight | I tend to fix things fast if I can |
| 22:10.35 | ckknight | yes, Fisker-, root > all |
| 22:10.37 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 22:11.02 | Saroz | ckknight, is there an event fired when someone goes AFK in a raid? |
| 22:11.05 | Trancer | it's awesome until you forget your root pass and are working remote >< |
| 22:11.14 | ckknight | Saroz: nope. |
| 22:11.17 | Saroz | crap |
| 22:11.20 | Sais | "all your bases belong to root"? ;) |
| 22:11.21 | ckknight | Saroz: trust me, I've tested. |
| 22:11.29 | Saroz | that's why I asked :p |
| 22:11.32 | ckknight | Punkie`: why not? |
| 22:11.46 | Punkie` | ag_unitframes still works great for me ;) |
| 22:11.51 | ckknight | Saroz: even so, DogTag-1.0 has AFK for raid as well as timers and everything |
| 22:11.54 | Sais | +are :( |
| 22:12.03 | Saroz | ckknight, yea I noticed the commit |
| 22:13.35 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: ping ? |
| 22:14.55 | Adirelle | well, ckknight: comments on http://ace.pastey.net/57161 ? |
| 22:15.03 | Adirelle | that's quite strait-coded |
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| 22:17.36 | ckknight | Adirelle: I thought I added a function IsGroupLeader(unit) |
| 22:18.04 | Adirelle | I'll take a look then |
| 22:18.20 | Adirelle | and I still miss misdirection, but the output basic works |
| 22:18.27 | break19 | Ominous: [2007/06/19 17:15:15-10-x854]: ClassTimer-1.0 r40272\ClassTimer.lua:68: attempt to concatenate field 'name' (a nil value) x855 |
| 22:18.30 | Saroz | ckknight, one really nice feature would be to be able to copy a layout/settings from one frame to another, like from TTT to FT.. to save time |
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| 22:18.39 | Ominous | break: that with sticky? |
| 22:18.45 | ckknight | Saroz: dude, it won't be from one frame to another |
| 22:18.50 | ckknight | Saroz: it'll also be one user to another ;-) |
| 22:18.55 | ckknight | Saroz: or to the forums and back |
| 22:18.56 | ckknight | etc. |
| 22:19.38 | Saroz | I mean, if I have my Target's target frame all set and ready, then I have to do the same shit to my focus's target frame. |
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| 22:20.22 | break19 | dsl + lightning = disconnect :/ |
| 22:20.28 | ckknight | Saroz: basically, what you'd do is choose "Save current settings as a layout" or whatever, then you'd name it and everything, it'd go in your database, then you could choose your focus, load layout, choose "Saroz's layout" |
| 22:20.47 | ckknight | eventually |
| 22:20.48 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40766 10ItemValue/ (ItemValue.lua ItemValue.toc): |
| 22:20.48 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 22:20.48 | CIA-22 | - Toc change and enabled keywords |
| 22:21.08 | Saroz | cool, but that will be the entire layout, not "Copy settings from [other frame] to this frame" |
| 22:21.13 | Saroz | anyway, just a thought |
| 22:21.38 | ckknight | layouts are frame-based. |
| 22:21.46 | ckknight | not everything-based |
| 22:21.54 | ckknight | e.g. raid frames can use a different layout from party frames |
| 22:21.57 | ckknight | etc. |
| 22:22.15 | ckknight | I may add a simple copy mechanism, though. |
| 22:22.21 | Saroz | thats what Im saying |
| 22:22.33 | ckknight | gah, IRC client's screwy |
| 22:23.25 | break19 | man, someone, besides me, needs to update GarbageFU to use ItemPrice lib heh |
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| 22:27.17 | Fisker- | anyone know what software 4chan boards are based on btw? |
| 22:27.18 | Velkyn | Can someone please tell me where "Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua" is located? |
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| 22:28.02 | Fisker- | in patch-<locale>.mpq i think |
| 22:28.05 | Velkyn | I checked "C:\Program Files\WoW\Interface" but the only folder in that bad-boy is "Addons" |
| 22:28.22 | Cryect | its in data |
| 22:28.24 | Antiarc|Work | Velkyn: It's in your MPQs |
| 22:28.29 | Antiarc|Work | Use the Blizzard Interface Kit to extract it |
| 22:28.35 | Velkyn | Oh my.. |
| 22:28.42 | Fisker- | you're not supposed to edit it btw |
| 22:28.47 | Velkyn | Is anyone elses bugsack going NUTZ with that file? |
| 22:28.50 | Saroz | ckknight, what do you do to check if a unit goes AFK then, just schedule repeating updates? |
| 22:29.04 | ckknight | yep, but it's quite fast, all in all |
| 22:29.07 | break19 | Velkyn: not mine |
| 22:29.08 | Velkyn | I am getting prolly 1-2k errros a second off that one file. |
| 22:29.19 | Saroz | make slouken add an event, pick up the red phone man |
| 22:29.21 | Velkyn | It doesnt happen on my main chair, but on my alt its giving me.. |
| 22:29.21 | Fisker- | it's probably another addon causing it |
| 22:29.21 | Antiarc|Work | It's another mod that's breaking it |
| 22:29.33 | ckknight | Saroz: there's an event for party, just not for raid |
| 22:29.44 | Velkyn | "1295:Unknown unit token: daelomdel" (dae is my main char) |
| 22:29.47 | Saroz | red...phone |
| 22:29.48 | Saroz | nn |
| 22:30.11 | Velkyn | Any advice on tracing apart from enabling one mod at a time? |
| 22:30.13 | ckknight | Velkyn: which file? |
| 22:30.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Velkyn: sounds like a macro problem |
| 22:30.23 | Velkyn | "Interface |
| 22:30.25 | Velkyn | sorry |
| 22:30.37 | Velkyn | "Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua" |
| 22:31.04 | Arrowmaster | Velkyn: do you have any macros with [target=daelomdel] in them? |
| 22:31.10 | Velkyn | Checking now. |
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| 22:31.17 | Arrowmaster | or /target daelomdel |
| 22:31.22 | Velkyn | Sure do, let me try that. |
| 22:31.24 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't realize that they were clearing season one items from our inventories; i'm stuck w/o an offhand now O_o |
| 22:31.27 | Zeksie | ckknight, PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED for afk on/off events. it's always fired with arg1 == unit when someone goes afk/ends afk |
| 22:31.35 | ckknight | Zeksie: not for raid. |
| 22:31.36 | hyperChipmunk | i just sold one yesterday, too |
| 22:31.40 | Arrowmaster | hyperChipmunk: huh? |
| 22:31.57 | Zeksie | pretty sure it does.. |
| 22:32.00 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r40767 10BigWigs/ (SC/Vashj.lua TheEye/Kaelthas.lua): BigWigs: Kael'thas/Vashj: deDE update |
| 22:32.05 | rubik | all your season 1 arena weapons are belong to blizzard |
| 22:32.07 | ckknight | Zeksie: okay, wait, it _does_ do it for raid |
| 22:32.14 | Velkyn | Hyper: Thats an error on your side man, mine are all still there. |
| 22:32.15 | ckknight | Zeksie: it _doesn't_ do it if the unit isn't visible. |
| 22:32.17 | hyperChipmunk | my left ripper is gone |
| 22:32.21 | ckknight | Zeksie: I have extra checks for that. |
| 22:32.23 | hyperChipmunk | i had to buy a new one |
| 22:32.24 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 22:32.30 | Velkyn | I would report it mate. |
| 22:32.40 | hyperChipmunk | really? |
| 22:32.42 | Velkyn | Unless you have the Arena Points to blow. |
| 22:32.43 | Arrowmaster | my friend still has his shiv |
| 22:32.46 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 22:32.49 | Arrowmaster | open a ticket |
| 22:32.51 | kenlyric | they don't take gear away. |
| 22:32.52 | Zeksie | yes. sounds right. just meaning you can cut down polling all the time if u were doing |
| 22:32.53 | Velkyn | Yeah, I just asked in guild... of like 30 people not one person lost a season 1 item |
| 22:32.56 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: What? |
| 22:32.57 | Zeksie | b ut sounds like ur not ;) |
| 22:33.00 | hyperChipmunk | no, the one on the vendor had no price listed |
| 22:33.13 | hyperChipmunk | i thuoght you were supposed to re-buy the stuff you'd had already |
| 22:33.13 | Velkyn | Regarding the error: Apparently it was the macro, not popping up anymore. |
| 22:33.14 | Antiarc|Work | Holy crap, they deleted season 1 weapons?! |
| 22:33.19 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: i was kidding, sorry... playing off what hC said |
| 22:33.25 | hyperChipmunk | and i clicked, but it still took my points |
| 22:33.32 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, heh. |
| 22:33.35 | hyperChipmunk | it's a ? in my inventory, too |
| 22:33.37 | Velkyn | Report it I would say. |
| 22:33.42 | Arrowmaster | yes report |
| 22:33.42 | Antiarc|Work | I was scared for a moment |
| 22:33.45 | rubik | i do no arena whatsoever (yet) so all that stuff is foreign to me |
| 22:33.48 | Velkyn | Yeah my alt... here entire gear set looks to be missing |
| 22:33.51 | Arrowmaster | the ? means its a cache isuse |
| 22:33.53 | Arrowmaster | relog |
| 22:33.57 | Velkyn | And everything in her inventory is "?"s |
| 22:33.58 | hyperChipmunk | i have |
| 22:34.12 | hyperChipmunk | lemme delete cache |
| 22:34.16 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r40768 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Hyjal Summit deDE fix |
| 22:34.22 | Velkyn | Can someone point me to cache? |
| 22:34.22 | Mikk | Velkyn: Exit WoW. Delete your Cache dir. Start WoW. |
| 22:34.32 | Mikk | c:\program files\world of warcraft\Cache |
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| 22:34.55 | Velkyn | Eeek... whatelse do I lose from cache> |
| 22:35.01 | Mikk | nothing |
| 22:35.09 | Mikk | it just gets re-downloaded from server |
| 22:35.14 | Mikk | it's just a speedup thing on blizz' side |
| 22:35.29 | NightHawkTheSane | (which is why it's called the cache) |
| 22:35.41 | Velkyn | You guys are amazing. |
| 22:35.53 | NightHawkTheSane | not really |
| 22:36.02 | Velkyn | If only I could bake a cake and bring it into the office.. |
| 22:37.02 | Mikk | One thing the cache lets you do is view items on your alts via addons like OneStorage, CharacterInfoStorage, Sanity, etc.. if stuff hasn't been received from the game, it won't be displayable |
| 22:37.08 | Mikk | But loggin into your alt just once fixes that |
| 22:37.51 | hyperChipmunk | yay |
| 22:37.58 | hyperChipmunk | now i have two left-hand rippers |
| 22:38.10 | ckknight | ... |
| 22:38.23 | NightHawkTheSane | do you also have two left feet? |
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| 22:39.37 | RogueShadow_ | yay, 2.1.2 patch. I can stop crashing. |
| 22:40.20 | Jumoor | hardly |
| 22:40.24 | hypetech | any mods I should anticipate breaking with this 2.1.2? |
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| 22:40.36 | odiszs | test |
| 22:40.42 | odiszs | registered fine yes? |
| 22:40.58 | hypetech | eh? |
| 22:41.20 | Mikk | hypetech: nto really |
| 22:41.22 | odiszs | nm |
| 22:41.48 | hypetech | "Many raid items have had their art improved." -- Anybody know what skins changed? |
| 22:42.00 | Matrix110 | mostly random epics |
| 22:42.14 | hypetech | anything popular? |
| 22:42.17 | Mikk | they mostly swapped from using one old set to another old set from what i've heard |
| 22:42.18 | Matrix110 | on worldofraids mmo-champion are pics |
| 22:42.24 | TecnoBrat | ckknight ping? |
| 22:42.25 | Mikk | nothing new |
| 22:42.26 | TecnoBrat | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=AC8E2D00688A5CD4C44D87C3F078A753?topicId=110644023&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 22:42.29 | TecnoBrat | did you see that? |
| 22:42.32 | hypetech | Matrix110: link? |
| 22:42.37 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:42.40 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40769 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 22:42.40 | CIA-22 | Violation: Total rearrangement of Report menu options. Should be MUCH smoother to use now. |
| 22:42.40 | CIA-22 | Only one problem: command line reporting to other than fixed channels won't work until someone (ckknight? :-)) fixes AceOptions to allow multi-level passing groups. |
| 22:42.41 | hypetech | TecnoBrat: is that the attument info? |
| 22:42.44 | TecnoBrat | QA could not reproduce the crash bug |
| 22:42.49 | hypetech | TecnoBrat: nvm |
| 22:42.51 | *** join/#wowace bindi (i=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 22:43.00 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: I think I may have fixed it on my end, but not sure |
| 22:43.38 | TecnoBrat | kk, thought I would share, as I just read that |
| 22:43.51 | Matrix110 | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=280.0 hypetech |
| 22:44.21 | Mikk | [Ammo] / vhaarr: http://mikk.cjb.net/vio.jpg .. and DPS/Damage/Healing/etc are also clickable for quick reporting to previous destination. |
| 22:44.37 | Mikk | And if you're not liking the changes, please say so now, because the rest that I need to do kinda depends on the changes I did now :S |
| 22:45.15 | Mikk | (Shoving report menu in bar window context menu, adding chatchannels to reporting options ...) |
| 22:45.30 | Mikk | Hm.. they'll be asleep now won't they |
| 22:45.35 | RogueShadow_ | I might try that today. hmm |
| 22:45.41 | RogueShadow_ | Violation that is. |
| 22:51.11 | [Liquidor] | Anyone watching Stargate Atlantis ? |
| 22:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I do, but i havn't watched in a while, been waiting for s4 to start |
| 22:51.44 | vhaarr | Mikk: sec |
| 22:52.26 | vhaarr | Mikk: what? |
| 22:52.31 | vhaarr | Mikk: The groups are clickable? |
| 22:54.18 | Mikk | yes |
| 22:54.42 | vhaarr | Mikk: that's horrible |
| 22:54.53 | Mikk | why? |
| 22:55.20 | vhaarr | Mikk: the group at least needs some visual indication that it's clickable |
| 22:55.26 | vhaarr | some distinction from regular groups |
| 22:55.30 | vhaarr | then maybe I can reevaluate |
| 22:55.39 | Mikk | well.. hrm.. it says so in the description |
| 22:55.48 | Mikk | and tbh it's not a REQUIREMENT to use it that way |
| 22:56.00 | Mikk | you can do it the oldfashioned way and click the entire way through |
| 22:56.07 | vhaarr | right, remove the group-click stuff and it's fine |
| 22:56.27 | Mikk | that's a huge-ass speedup when you want to report multiple stats to the same destination |
| 22:56.44 | NeoTron | [Liquidor]: of course >:-) |
| 22:57.22 | Chompers | if i were to make a group to farm SSC trash, how many people would i need? |
| 22:57.23 | RogueShadow_ | I agree with Mikk, at best, maybe he'll kindly give you a little checkbox that you can turn it off. ya... up to him. Don't care personally, sounds good. |
| 22:57.34 | sbu | Chompers: mh - equip? |
| 22:57.34 | vhaarr | Mikk: make clickable groups distinguish themselves from normal groups in some way, and it's cool |
| 22:57.44 | Mikk | mkay.. hrm .. |
| 22:57.45 | vhaarr | RogueShadow_: fortunately for me, I don't care what you think. |
| 22:57.54 | RogueShadow_ | yay. |
| 22:58.07 | Mikk | ~emulate vhaarr |
| 22:58.07 | purl | ^^ |
| 22:58.12 | Mikk | lies |
| 22:58.50 | NeoTron | lol@4 level menues |
| 22:59.03 | Chompers | sbu : i want vortexs, but the other drops are good too |
| 22:59.09 | sbu | nono |
| 22:59.12 | sbu | group equip? :o |
| 22:59.29 | Chompers | i dont get what you mean |
| 22:59.44 | hypetech | Chompers: 25? |
| 22:59.45 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: ping ? |
| 22:59.46 | sbu | meh - whats the equipment status of YOUR group at the moment? |
| 22:59.53 | Chompers | oooh, sorry :P |
| 23:00.07 | Chompers | everyones got kara epics, we clear the place in two nights |
| 23:00.11 | Chompers | we cant kill gruul |
| 23:00.23 | Matrix110 | why cant you kill Gruul Oo |
| 23:00.27 | vhaarr | Mikk: don't get me wrong, it's a good timesaver, it just needs a visual cue |
| 23:00.34 | Chompers | lack of dps or lack of healers signing |
| 23:00.58 | Matrix110 | Everyone using a Ogrila Flask? |
| 23:00.59 | Chompers | and no one runs to the rocks before he ground slams, they think we can heal through it |
| 23:01.05 | Chompers | everyone, or elixers |
| 23:01.20 | Matrix110 | and you die to to many grows? |
| 23:01.26 | Chompers | maulgars down in the first attempt mostly |
| 23:01.37 | Chompers | about 14 growths and hes at 30% |
| 23:01.41 | Matrix110 | omg Oo |
| 23:01.55 | Matrix110 | How many Healers do you have in the raid? |
| 23:02.13 | ckknight | bajillion |
| 23:02.15 | ckknight | and two. |
| 23:02.21 | NeoTron | Chompers: we don't have people "run to avoid ground slam", ever |
| 23:02.25 | Chompers | between 4-7 |
| 23:02.29 | NeoTron | but ppl can pot/first aid themself |
| 23:02.41 | Matrix110 | You got 7 healers and that low dps? |
| 23:02.46 | trh_ | 2 different g-stones are a big plus on gruul |
| 23:02.51 | Chompers | yeah, i cant work it out |
| 23:02.59 | Chompers | people are going all out too |
| 23:03.10 | Matrix110 | Your mages dont have Spellfire/Shadoweave Set/ other craftable Tailoring epics or what? |
| 23:03.12 | trh_ | there was a jpg with gruul safe-spots |
| 23:03.16 | Matrix110 | Warlocks aswell |
| 23:03.17 | trh_ | but can't remember where it was |
| 23:03.30 | Chompers | its really really depressing |
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| 23:03.32 | hypetech | can you do void reaver without killing al'ar? |
| 23:03.36 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 23:03.37 | trh_ | yes |
| 23:03.39 | hypetech | bah |
| 23:03.41 | Adirelle | ckknight: in pitbull, should all texts be listed under "all units" > "texts" menu ? |
| 23:03.45 | Chompers | i know of at least 4 people with the full set of tailoring epics |
| 23:03.47 | Matrix110 | like everyone does it hypetech |
| 23:03.47 | ckknight | yea |
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| 23:03.55 | trh_ | is al'ar so hard? |
| 23:03.58 | Matrix110 | Chompers then you are doing smth wrong:P |
| 23:04.00 | Chompers | aye |
| 23:04.04 | cotangent | just walk the edge of his room, no void reaver is so easy |
| 23:04.05 | Adirelle | I think i'll have to try to reset |
| 23:04.09 | Chompers | we loose alot of people to ground slam |
| 23:04.13 | Matrix110 | Well hes harder than VoidReaver(whos easier than Hydross) |
| 23:04.14 | Chompers | at least 5 every single time |
| 23:04.16 | Adirelle | I have them sometimes, and sometimes not :/ |
| 23:04.20 | Matrix110 | oh ok |
| 23:04.31 | Matrix110 | Well then you should workout Positioning |
| 23:04.35 | cotangent | void reaver is easer then prince |
| 23:04.40 | Chompers | no one wants to attempt assigning positions to people |
| 23:04.50 | Chompers | looks like its going to be necessary |
| 23:04.55 | Matrix110 | I think there are several guides on well known Pages for that |
| 23:04.57 | sbu | Matrix110: wtf? gruul harder than void reaver? |
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| 23:05.03 | kenlyric | it's not possible for anything to be easier than prince. |
| 23:05.23 | Matrix110 | sbu Gruul is harder imho:P |
| 23:05.28 | sbu | wtf :) |
| 23:05.29 | trh_ | Chompers: well.. it works without.. just a rough direction where groups have to be |
| 23:05.29 | kenlyric | falling off the aldor lift is harder than prince. |
| 23:05.34 | sbu | okay, void reaver this week ;p |
| 23:05.43 | Trancer | gruul is impossible.. was a patch, he hurtful strikes more |
| 23:05.45 | hypetech | we're doing void reaver in an hour ^_^ |
| 23:05.49 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: I fell off the Aldor rise yesterday. |
| 23:05.49 | hypetech | another server first |
| 23:05.50 | Antiarc|Work | :/ |
| 23:05.57 | cotangent | hmm I have died more to the aldor lift then I have to void reaver |
| 23:06.07 | Trancer | grr. aldor elevator. |
| 23:06.08 | sbu | kenlyric: haha, thats why i chose scryers :o |
| 23:06.11 | Trancer | My alt is going scryers |
| 23:06.13 | Matrix110 | hypetech its about 30mins trash orso to him maybe more |
| 23:06.14 | Trancer | Frigging elevator |
| 23:06.14 | hypetech | Trancer: if hurtful strike is killing anybody that actually takes a hurtful strike, your tanks aren't ready for gruul :( |
| 23:06.14 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: thanks for proving my point exactly. |
| 23:06.15 | Chompers | its all or nothing, when a few of us run to a rock/tree there is always 3 people landing right ontop |
| 23:06.31 | hypetech | Matrix110: that sucks |
| 23:06.37 | Trancer | hypetech: but but.. he is randomly hurtful striking people! (pun intended, we've got gruul on farm for eons ;-)) |
| 23:06.39 | Chompers | also: stand behind the lair brutes, how fucking hard is that |
| 23:06.48 | Matrix110 | Trash is harder than Void Reaver:P |
| 23:07.00 | Chompers | does being a healer mean you can stand where you want? ARGH |
| 23:07.06 | Trancer | hehe Chompers |
| 23:07.18 | Chompers | they get charged, then its people like me that get cleaved |
| 23:07.21 | Matrix110 | Lair Brutes are a bitch anyway-.- |
| 23:07.22 | Trancer | just overnuke the brutes and lure them into the healer camp >:) |
| 23:07.31 | NeoTron | Chompers: everyone using bigwigs or DBM for the proximity monitor? do ppl have enough health? |
| 23:07.50 | Matrix110 | The Designer made these mob like this: Lets make mobs that randomly charge everything especially people like Mages/Priest that normally get 1 shotted by it |
| 23:08.18 | *** join/#wowace trh (n=hmmm@e179053123.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:08.19 | Chompers | i'm known as the addon whore, i've made everyone use BigWigs |
| 23:08.32 | Chompers | i think we're doing everything right, maybe its a lack of gear |
| 23:08.37 | NeoTron | nah |
| 23:08.43 | NeoTron | you're not doing it right if ppl die each shatter |
| 23:08.49 | NeoTron | fix that and you seem golden |
| 23:08.51 | Chompers | i cant take another month of kara, its mind numbingly dumb |
| 23:08.57 | Matrix110 | ye nobody should die to shatter atall |
| 23:09.07 | Matrix110 | Assigning positions really help at learning the fight |
| 23:09.10 | NeoTron | if necessary have ppl use more stamina |
| 23:09.14 | Matrix110 | later you can drop it |
| 23:09.18 | trh | NeoTron: we work best if the idiots die at the first shatter and the good players have more place after that :) |
| 23:09.20 | Chompers | its random though isnt it? |
| 23:09.28 | Chompers | soon as ground slam happens people fly everywhere |
| 23:09.44 | Matrix110 | You can go to safe spots where you dont get thrown |
| 23:09.45 | NeoTron | up to 30 yrd in any direction prett much |
| 23:09.50 | NeoTron | trh: then why bring them at all? ;-) |
| 23:09.51 | Matrix110 | then you can walk to your assigned position |
| 23:09.55 | NeoTron | btw how much trash is there to kill VR? |
| 23:09.56 | Chompers | oh, any tips for improving off-tanks threat gen? |
| 23:10.07 | trh | NeoTron: i don't know.. they are mostly from our partner guild |
| 23:10.08 | NeoTron | Chompers: use druids or have them stand in falling rocks |
| 23:10.23 | Chompers | being a dps warrior im sitting on 100 rage 90% of the time becuse the off tanks got low threat |
| 23:10.24 | Matrix110 | He should press his 3 Buttons fast enough Chompers :P |
| 23:10.40 | Chompers | haha :P |
| 23:10.55 | Chompers | we shout at him to walk into the falling rocks |
| 23:11.05 | Matrix110 | Falling Rocks? |
| 23:11.20 | Matrix110 | Since when are there falling Rocks @gruul Oo |
| 23:11.21 | Chompers | i cant remember the name of the attack :P |
| 23:11.22 | trh | i don't think they damage him ;) |
| 23:11.31 | trh | Matrix110: since ever? |
| 23:11.35 | Antiarc|Work | Cave In |
| 23:11.37 | Matrix110 | Erm? |
| 23:11.43 | Antiarc|Work | And Cave In doesn't damage him. |
| 23:11.45 | Matrix110 | That arent falling Rocks Oo |
| 23:11.52 | TecnoBrat | yes it is... |
| 23:11.56 | Antiarc|Work | Yes there are |
| 23:11.57 | TecnoBrat | turn up your spell detail |
| 23:12.01 | Matrix110 | iam at max |
| 23:12.02 | TecnoBrat | you can see the rocks |
| 23:12.03 | trh | Matrix110: the ceiling in a lair goes down |
| 23:12.03 | Antiarc|Work | Matrix110: You don't play melee, do you? :P |
| 23:12.07 | trh | Matrix110: what's the lair made of? |
| 23:12.09 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.10 | Matrix110 | no iam a mage |
| 23:12.15 | Antiarc|Work | see, that's why |
| 23:12.27 | Antiarc|Work | Melee is all clumped together so they eat cave-in all the time |
| 23:12.30 | TecnoBrat | rocks fall onto you ... and you take damage :P |
| 23:12.32 | Chompers | yum |
| 23:12.51 | Matrix110 | hmmk i always thought its smth smiliar to void zone:P |
| 23:12.56 | Matrix110 | or the thing @Mag since 2.1 |
| 23:12.58 | Chompers | so yeah, i want to farm the trash for vortexs to upgrade my sword |
| 23:13.03 | Chompers | the paterns look awesome too |
| 23:13.11 | TecnoBrat | thing at mag? |
| 23:13.13 | NeoTron | I want the boot (caster) pattern |
| 23:13.18 | TecnoBrat | you mean the fire .. or the OTHER falling rocks? |
| 23:13.23 | NeoTron | the guy who won the only such drop so far.. got the shadow dmg boots from hydross too |
| 23:13.27 | Chompers | is it a full 25 man job to deal with the trash? |
| 23:13.29 | NeoTron | so he's not actually itching to make them anhmore :( |
| 23:13.31 | Matrix110 | There is smth rumbling earth on the ground after Mag is released |
| 23:13.41 | Matrix110 | Chompers if you cant kill gruul yes:P |
| 23:13.54 | Chompers | bah :P |
| 23:14.05 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: basic KTM output in ThreatLib : http://ace.pastey.net/57166 |
| 23:14.06 | NeoTron | we had some spectacular wipes on SSC trash (early) until we figured it out |
| 23:14.07 | Lyfe | can anyone tell me off the top of their head who it is that does MacAceUpdater (i forgot who it was already) |
| 23:14.13 | NeoTron | ironically post-Hydross trash is a lot easier imho |
| 23:14.22 | NeoTron | until you get to the pre-Moragrim pulls |
| 23:14.25 | NeoTron | some nasty stuff there |
| 23:15.09 | Matrix110 | The Shadownova pack... |
| 23:15.19 | Matrix110 | we had like 10ppl in the water first time we did that one |
| 23:15.27 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.29 | Jaxon | http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater |
| 23:15.30 | Jaxon | Please report bugs / feature requests to the Issue Tracker |
| 23:15.30 | Jaxon | Developer |
| 23:15.30 | Jaxon | Kevin Smith |
| 23:15.30 | Jaxon | http://kismith.co.uk |
| 23:15.31 | NeoTron | one before the murlocs? |
| 23:15.31 | Jaxon | wau-feedback@kismith.co.uk |
| 23:15.31 | sbu | Matrix110: uhah |
| 23:15.37 | sbu | Matrix110: same here... |
| 23:15.45 | Matrix110 | ye NeoTron and we didnt clear the trash for scalding water ofc |
| 23:15.52 | Matrix110 | so Fishes ate us |
| 23:15.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40770 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix issues with all units menu get functions |
| 23:16.12 | Lyfe | Jaxon: ok, lemme rephrase that question. anyone know the name the guy who does MAU uses on irc? :) |
| 23:16.13 | NeoTron | we had problems with the guys before but not with that pack nor the murlocs for some reason |
| 23:16.29 | Matrix110 | Well the Shadownova pack isnt hard |
| 23:16.36 | Matrix110 | its just if you dont know about the knockback... |
| 23:16.42 | NeoTron | ah yeah |
| 23:16.46 | NeoTron | we did know about it |
| 23:17.03 | Matrix110 | best thing is your first time in SSC |
| 23:17.09 | Matrix110 | you kill the first Giant |
| 23:17.20 | Matrix110 | and then about 50% of the raid: OMG OMG OMG FPS LAG LAG LAG LAG |
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| 23:17.46 | NeoTron | heh |
| 23:17.53 | NeoTron | the things those guys do can me annoying |
| 23:18.04 | NeoTron | my favorite is when he drops the refreshing mist mushrooms |
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| 23:18.22 | Matrix110 | they should be permanent |
| 23:18.31 | Matrix110 | or he should drop Seeds to plant these |
| 23:18.57 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/vio.jpg <- ok, help. good ideas on how to indicate that "Damage done", "Damage per Second" etc are actually clickable? underline? |
| 23:18.58 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 23:19.06 | Chompers | think i'll abandon the ssc farming idea |
| 23:19.11 | Chompers | its just not going to happen |
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| 23:19.41 | Gagorian | Hmm, BucketEvent isn't adding args properly? |
| 23:19.49 | abyssichate | Eeek, did blizzard really fail at deliving armoured netherdrakes to the top .5%? |
| 23:19.50 | Gagorian | I get an empty table :l |
| 23:19.55 | Matrix110 | Mikk add this: (Iam clickable) |
| 23:20.21 | Mikk | Matrix110: That's already in the description tooltip. And tbh it ain't going into the menutext :P |
| 23:20.51 | Matrix110 | Isnt it kinda obvious that they are clickable indicated by the ->? |
| 23:20.55 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40771 10ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.xml): |
| 23:20.55 | CIA-22 | ACP: When using the updated 'sort by name' view. If an addon which has sub-addons is collapsed then enable/disable all its subaddons along with it. |
| 23:20.55 | CIA-22 | [18:18:02] ACP: BigWigs is collapsed. Setting all its addons ENABLED |
| 23:20.55 | CIA-22 | [18:18:19] ACP: BigWigs is collapsed. Setting all its addons DISABLED |
| 23:21.21 | Matrix110 | Or wait |
| 23:21.27 | Matrix110 | nvm |
| 23:21.43 | Matrix110 | I get what you mean by clickable... |
| 23:22.12 | Matrix110 | Hmm quite hard to make it visual |
| 23:22.38 | Mikk | Yeah.. it's click to make stuff happen. Not click to expand. It expands on mouseoever |
| 23:22.53 | Matrix110 | figured that out:P |
| 23:23.22 | Mikk | Could have something that appears when you mouseover |
| 23:23.26 | Mikk | Could have something that's always there |
| 23:23.34 | Mikk | Icon.. underline... |
| 23:23.44 | Mikk | It's got to be "fairly" obvious though |
| 23:23.46 | Fisker- | there |
| 23:23.48 | Fisker- | i started drama |
| 23:23.52 | Fisker- | needs moar |
| 23:23.56 | Matrix110 | You could add a Topic for it |
| 23:24.02 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296391363&sid=1 |
| 23:24.08 | Matrix110 | Hint: Click for Report |
| 23:24.42 | sylvanaar | change the color |
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| 23:26.42 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: ping |
| 23:26.56 | Mikk | hm.. yeah.. could just stick something at the bottom of the menu i suppose... "(Hint: Click a report to send to previous destination)" |
| 23:27.00 | Mikk | Though .. erm.. that won't fit >.< |
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| 23:27.40 | Matrix110 | But i like that feature:P |
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| 23:27.59 | pb_ee1 | Antiarc|Wor1: ping |
| 23:28.06 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
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| 23:28.23 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: pong |
| 23:28.43 | pb_ee1 | Antiarc|Work: Heya ;) Is there a project of assigning Omen to only one mob, as KLH does it? |
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| 23:29.06 | Fisker- | Anyone know some good portal shit i can slap on my site? |
| 23:29.11 | pb_ee1 | I'm a healer and i'd like to see the threat generated on Hydross, for example. At the moment i MUST select Hydross, it's a pain :( |
| 23:29.17 | ckknight | pb_ee1: why would it do that? |
| 23:29.19 | ckknight | oh. |
| 23:29.23 | Fisker- | free of charge and free of security sploitz(i.e. only microsoft products) |
| 23:29.27 | ckknight | yea, seems like Omen should have that possibility |
| 23:29.37 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: Is there a project to add an "only in combat" option to Violation? |
| 23:29.39 | Antiarc|Work | pb_ee1: Not yet, but I'll be adding it. |
| 23:29.55 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: no |
| 23:30.02 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: but it could be added |
| 23:30.04 | pb_ee1 | Antiarc|Work: Nice to hear that, I really appreciate this mod and I hope it will go far :P |
| 23:30.38 | vhaarr | Mikk: how about just redesigning the whole thing a bit? |
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| 23:30.40 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: any chance to look at the bar grow up problem (first grow down then slow refresh and growing up)? |
| 23:30.45 | trh | Antiarc|Work: i don't know if you know it yet, but omen seems to display the class-color often wrong (i.e. warlocks in shaman blue) |
| 23:30.48 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: Why this? I like to have a "global" stat of the performances of a raid, and thus, I do not want to "save" the heals between fights for example |
| 23:31.13 | Trancer | hmm, guess I'll just dive into the lua |
| 23:31.19 | vhaarr | Mikk: so there's just one type=execute per module, and on the top or bottom of the menu, there's a "Lines" setting and a "Target" setting |
| 23:31.22 | Mikk | vhaarr: well.. half the reason for the current ordering is being able to stick a "Report" in the context menu for the bar windows, and have destinations under it |
| 23:31.23 | Antiarc|Work | Trancer: Haven't gotten to look at it, but I'll be doing so shortly |
| 23:31.32 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Fixed in my working copy, will make it into the next commit |
| 23:31.36 | Mikk | vhaarr: haha. i had that. |
| 23:31.40 | Mikk | ammo made me change it to what it is now |
| 23:31.42 | trh | Antiarc|Work: great! <3 :) |
| 23:31.45 | vhaarr | Mikk: eh |
| 23:31.55 | vhaarr | Mikk: did he say why? |
| 23:32.02 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: I also noticed, but maybe i'm wrong, that Violation generates a big loss of FPS during raids |
| 23:32.09 | Mikk | vhaarr: not really |
| 23:32.12 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: I don't believe you |
| 23:32.18 | pb_ee1 | I do not have a very prowerful computer though, but removing it just fixed the problem ;p |
| 23:32.19 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work, I personally have seen you be asked that question about 10 times |
| 23:32.19 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: alright, no rush, it's just aesthetic |
| 23:32.25 | vhaarr | Mikk: I don't suppose you kept that patch? |
| 23:32.25 | TecnoBrat | the class color bug |
| 23:32.29 | Fisker- | so any form for portal stuff |
| 23:32.32 | Fisker- | anyone knows any? |
| 23:32.33 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat: You should see my PMs :P |
| 23:32.39 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 23:32.43 | Trancer | hmm. pms |
| 23:32.49 | TecnoBrat | you are certainly alot nicer about it than I |
| 23:32.51 | Mikk | vhaarr: nop :/ but wouldn't be much of a problem to reinstate |
| 23:32.53 | trh | vhaarr: btw: DeuceLog errors on startup because of some changes in parser-3.0 |
| 23:33.04 | vhaarr | Mikk: I think that would be a lot better |
| 23:33.06 | trh | vhaarr: just in case you want to fix that :) |
| 23:33.09 | vhaarr | trh: I thought I fixed that? |
| 23:33.23 | TecnoBrat | speaking of pms, this is an oldie .. but funny to me :P http://wow.tecnobrat.com/images/funny-mc.gif |
| 23:33.24 | vhaarr | trh: you can fix it, then, you probably fixed it in your mod already |
| 23:33.25 | trh | vhaarr: i tested yesterday |
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| 23:33.33 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: Should I use FuBar_PerformanceFu to test it? |
| 23:33.42 | Mikk | pb_ee1: yes |
| 23:33.46 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: I'm using violation in 25man raids with no performance issues |
| 23:33.46 | trh | vhaarr: ok |
| 23:33.57 | Trancer | lol TecnoBrat |
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| 23:34.15 | TecnoBrat | our tank tank into a mob naked running back to rag from majordomo .. for fun |
| 23:34.17 | Trancer | we had a female druid that would not sign about 1 week per month |
| 23:34.22 | Mikk | ofc, performancefu will not tell you about FPS degradation caused by new display elements |
| 23:34.26 | Trancer | because "she would be too grumpy to come on raids" |
| 23:34.27 | TecnoBrat | and then complained about dieing :P |
| 23:34.41 | pb_ee1 | I only have a 1.6 Ghz, and i'm reaching the maximum limit of calculations / s of my computer, maybe adding Violation just added too much to my ui :P |
| 23:34.47 | vhaarr | Mikk: the major issue here is that clickable menu groups is not a common UI element, so anything we can do to avoid it gives me joy |
| 23:34.55 | pb_ee1 | I'll do this, and I'll report back if I feel it must be ;) |
| 23:35.01 | Trancer | TecnoBrat: heh |
| 23:35.07 | vhaarr | Mikk: even if that means people have to move their mouse a bit more, or click one more item |
| 23:35.08 | Mikk | vhaarr: aye i know where you're coming from |
| 23:35.09 | Trancer | TecnoBrat: try MC at 70 btw, it's good fun |
| 23:35.29 | Trancer | we even had a legendary drop >< |
| 23:35.35 | vhaarr | Mikk: I'd really like a patch to the behavior we discussed, then |
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| 23:35.42 | vhaarr | Report -> |
| 23:35.44 | Mikk | mkay |
| 23:35.46 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.50 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.51 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.53 | Mikk | To: |
| 23:35.54 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.55 | Mikk | Lines: |
| 23:35.57 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.16 | Mikk | Ahwell, at least my change to AceOptions made sylvanaar happy |
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| 23:40.05 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: until ckknight rips your face off |
| 23:40.29 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40772 10DeuceLog/DeuceLog.lua: DeuceLog: fix to let DeuceLog work with the current Parser-3.0 work (untested but should work) |
| 23:41.09 | hyperChipmunk | i tried to get that added a few months back, but he ate three of my vital organs before I finally decided to relinquish |
| 23:41.39 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: pff. i documented it. all is good :P |
| 23:41.48 | hyperChipmunk | did you add waterfall support? |
| 23:41.52 | Mikk | no =( |
| 23:42.00 | hyperChipmunk | because that's where it breaks down |
| 23:42.13 | Mikk | BUT! The docos say to only use it for convenience shortcuts |
| 23:42.20 | hyperChipmunk | that's why there's a :FeedTable in dewdrop now |
| 23:42.37 | hyperChipmunk | that was the result of my attempt, and I'm happy with it |
| 23:42.56 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 23:42.59 | hyperChipmunk | on your head be it |
| 23:44.16 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#GUI-only_fields |
| 23:44.58 | steino | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110534879&sid=1&pageNo=1#2 |
| 23:45.18 | Gagorian | How does BucketEvent handle two args? |
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| 23:46.01 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think it does. |
| 23:46.36 | trh | awesome idea for a mod: it registers when the player died and displays nice calming cuddly pictures of kittens! ;) |
| 23:46.39 | Gagorian | Seems so indeed Antiarc|Work |
| 23:46.53 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight is going to duestroy you D8< |
| 23:47.17 | Mikk | it's 1 line of code |
| 23:47.27 | Mikk | used correctly, i just don't see the problem |
| 23:47.37 | liquiem | dang, 10hrs and we'll see if pitbull doesnt crash with 2.1.2 ^^ |
| 23:47.51 | Keias | Pitbull is working fine for me with 2.1.2 |
| 23:47.55 | kergoth | ..\AddOns\BulkMail2\BulkMail.lua line 922: |
| 23:47.56 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:48.07 | hyperChipmunk | aw, come on dude |
| 23:48.09 | ckknight | Mikk: fair enough. |
| 23:48.12 | hyperChipmunk | you gonna make me change that myself? |
| 23:48.32 | hyperChipmunk | wtf, how come it wasn't fair when i did it |
| 23:48.47 | Mikk | i'm more wubbable :P |
| 23:49.14 | liquiem | Keias, sounds promising |
| 23:49.36 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40773 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 23:49.36 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 23:49.36 | CIA-22 | - typo G -> _G on line 922 |
| 23:49.42 | hyperChipmunk | /rude kergoth |
| 23:49.58 | Mikk | i'm not getting the point of all the _G:s being used suddenly |
| 23:50.10 | hyperChipmunk | it isn't sudden |
| 23:51.15 | Mikk | fair enuf. but it still isn't telling me why =) |
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| 23:52.15 | kergoth | a table index on a local table is faster than a getglobal() function call + GETGLOBAL + table index |
| 23:52.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:52.24 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, wtb "item quality" for bm2 rules |
| 23:53.01 | hyperChipmunk | how often do you have a problem with quality coloring on sending items; it already filters soulbound |
| 23:54.16 | CIA-22 | 03kalman * r40774 10DotDotDot/ (Core.lua DotDotDot.toc): |
| 23:54.16 | CIA-22 | DotDotDot: |
| 23:54.16 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.16 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.16 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.53 | ckknight | what's DotDotDot? |
| 23:55.11 | Kalman| | DoT tracker, fixed relation between time and width rather than percent and width. |
| 23:55.13 | JoshBorke | a mod |
| 23:55.16 | Mikk | kergoth: huh? print(someGlobalVar) is slower than print(_G.someGlobalVar) ? |
| 23:55.23 | Mikk | (assuming _G is local) |
| 23:56.04 | hyperChipmunk | print(getglobal("someGlobalVar")) certainly is |
| 23:56.13 | ckknight | Mikk: first is faster |
| 23:56.18 | ckknight | afaik. |
| 23:56.19 | Mikk | why would i use getglobal >.< |
| 23:56.29 | Mikk | oh, you're accessing stuff with constructed names |
| 23:56.31 | Mikk | nvm me then |
| 23:56.35 | trh | would be nice to have a mod showing if player is dotted in the targetframe how much of his life the dot's will take |
| 23:56.41 | hyperChipmunk | getglobal("foo"..bar) |
| 23:56.42 | trh | (if they run through) |
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| 23:56.50 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: ya i'm with you now =) |
| 23:56.52 | hyperChipmunk | or |
| 23:56.56 | hyperChipmunk | local foo |
| 23:56.57 | Kalman| | trh: Kinda hard to do, since you don't have access to enemy spellpower, I'd think? |
| 23:57.00 | hyperChipmunk | getglobal("foo") |
| 23:57.04 | Mikk | I've just been seing people do _G.fixedVarName in addons |
| 23:57.05 | JoshBorke | _G.var == var |
| 23:57.07 | Mikk | And THAT I don't get |
| 23:57.16 | JoshBorke | oh wait |
| 23:57.24 | Mikk | Yeah exactly that, josh |
| 23:57.28 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 23:57.32 | trh | Kalman|: as a matter of fact you have since they included it, but i thought of getting the first damagetick and extrapolating that |
| 23:57.32 | JoshBorke | no it doesn't |
| 23:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | not if you have a local var |
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| 23:57.50 | JoshBorke | _G.var == GETTABLE call, print(var) == GETGLOBAL call |
| 23:58.30 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not sure about _G.foo vs. foo |
| 23:59.02 | JoshBorke | so it just depends on which is faster |
| 23:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | but _G.["fo".."o"] vs getglobal("fo".."o") I'm pretty sure about |
| 23:59.17 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 23:59.23 | hyperChipmunk | without the . |
| 23:59.34 | JoshBorke | you'd be correct |
