| 00:00.06 | Daemona | and the console doesnt activate |
| 00:00.10 | Daemona | you have to soft reset and kill again |
| 00:00.11 | Daemona | ;) |
| 00:00.14 | Daemona | for loot and console :X |
| 00:00.42 | sbu | meh |
| 00:01.21 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (n=Ominous@81-178-209-201.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 00:02.40 | sbu | Daemona: and you get loot again? :p |
| 00:02.56 | Daemona | yes. but we cant be arsed to farm lurker... loot table suxx :X |
| 00:04.14 | sbu | Daemona: wtb priest trinket ;o |
| 00:04.44 | dodgizzla | giev t6 trinket :D |
| 00:04.44 | sbu | Daemona: mh - is there trash linked to lurker? |
| 00:04.50 | *** join/#wowace break19 (n=break19@adsl-065-013-119-154.sip.mob.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:05.01 | Daemona | those on the pumpstation platforms? |
| 00:05.04 | sbu | or first 3 groups hydross, other (platform) tidewalker? |
| 00:05.12 | sbu | oh, they are lurker linked? not tidewalker? |
| 00:05.14 | sbu | thats nice |
| 00:06.20 | Daemona | wtb ashtongue exalted :X |
| 00:06.30 | *** join/#wowace Killmore (i=task@modemcable031.191-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:06.43 | kenlyric | 2117/3000 |
| 00:06.56 | break19 | Kemayo: ok, tryin the fix now. |
| 00:07.05 | sbu | 675/3000 ;p |
| 00:08.04 | kenlyric | doood |
| 00:08.36 | kenlyric | I just now sharded my akama's sash. |
| 00:08.52 | Daemona | 14882/21000 ;) |
| 00:11.20 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40426 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): |
| 00:11.20 | CIA-22 | Recount - Bars now use the Global Sharemedia "statusbar" texture |
| 00:11.20 | CIA-22 | -Can set the Global Sharemedia "statusbar" texture via the config options (beginning to add new options there) |
| 00:13.43 | sbu | Cryect: i guess you know about Recount\Recount.lua:56: attempt to index field 'MainWindow' (a nil value)? |
| 00:13.50 | Cryect | No? |
| 00:13.57 | sbu | oh hm |
| 00:13.58 | sbu | okay :o |
| 00:14.11 | Cryect | oh heh whoops |
| 00:14.12 | sbu | i get this when typing /recount show |
| 00:14.42 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40427 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoSGUI.lua modules/DistributedTracker.lua): VanasKoS: use waterfall (if installed) for configuration instead of dewdrop |
| 00:14.45 | Cryect | I know what causes that bug to occur :-p |
| 00:14.55 | Cryect | I'm just never in a case normally where it would happen |
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| 00:15.46 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40428 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes a bug where a reset tries to occur but the display list for the main window don't exist yet |
| 00:16.13 | Cryect | If I know of a bug I normally fix it :-p |
| 00:17.12 | sbu | hehe |
| 00:19.49 | Lywellyn|Away | crap. Didn't take note of it. Which version PitBull should I revert to? |
| 00:21.05 | Lywellyn|Away | Ah. Topic's too long for my titlebar, even on MY resolution. :P thanks |
| 00:21.15 | break19 | heh |
| 00:22.02 | break19 | on my old irc client, if the topic didnt fit, it continously scrolled back and forth :) |
| 00:22.24 | break19 | i cant remember which client it was that did that tho :/ |
| 00:22.30 | hyperChipmunk | that would make me take a baseball bat to my screen |
| 00:22.34 | break19 | i've used too many of em over the years |
| 00:22.37 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40429 10TinyTip/ (. AceHook-2.1/ AceLibrary/ AceOO-2.0/): TinyTip: Externals. |
| 00:22.43 | Lywellyn|Away | is there an IRC command to show it? |
| 00:22.44 | *** join/#wowace hypetech (i=hypetech@74-130-230-138.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 00:22.48 | break19 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.50 | hyperChipmunk | /topic |
| 00:22.57 | Lywellyn|Away | I just did that...wait.... |
| 00:23.13 | Lywellyn|Away | ahh. Have to specify the channel name. Eheh. |
| 00:23.17 | hypetech | :p |
| 00:23.18 | break19 | i dont |
| 00:23.18 | hyperChipmunk | you have to not suck |
| 00:23.26 | Lywellyn|Away | Hey, I figured it out. |
| 00:23.31 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 00:23.52 | Adirelle | night |
| 00:24.30 | hypetech | bah, does anybody happen to know what event is fired when polymorph fades from a target? or a mod that will let me see events firing like devtools? |
| 00:24.44 | vhaarr | hypetech: UNIT_AURA |
| 00:25.07 | hyperChipmunk | Expo is a good event spy |
| 00:25.13 | vhaarr | hypetech: Or SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffLost, if you use SEEA. |
| 00:25.19 | hypetech | "UNIT_AURASTATE"? |
| 00:25.26 | hyperChipmunk | UNIT_AURA |
| 00:25.34 | hypetech | what is SEEA? |
| 00:25.36 | hyperChipmunk | just plain UNIT_AURA |
| 00:25.38 | Lywellyn|Away | UNIT_NO_LONGER_BAAS? |
| 00:25.42 | hyperChipmunk | ehehe |
| 00:26.01 | vhaarr | hypetech: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0, from the SpecialEventsEmbed svn module. |
| 00:26.02 | hypetech | haha |
| 00:26.09 | Lywellyn|Away | Sorry, I'm a mage. :D |
| 00:29.23 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 00:29.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:29.32 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: where does expo output to? I don't even get anything when I do /expo |
| 00:29.50 | ckknight | woo |
| 00:29.52 | ckknight | finally |
| 00:29.54 | Lywellyn|Away | Woo! Now to set up PitBull..... |
| 00:30.18 | sbu | hmhm |
| 00:30.21 | hyperChipmunk | hypetech: it's a tablet |
| 00:30.27 | hyperChipmunk | enable the fubar plugin |
| 00:30.31 | Lywellyn|Away | FIX TABLETS! *cough* |
| 00:30.40 | hyperChipmunk | it's under Others |
| 00:30.53 | hyperChipmunk | put the event tracker on |
| 00:31.11 | hyperChipmunk | Configure... -> New event to track |
| 00:31.16 | hyperChipmunk | and type in, like, UNIT_* |
| 00:31.38 | hyperChipmunk | prolly wanna detach it to watch |
| 00:31.51 | Lywellyn|Away | ckknight? |
| 00:32.05 | kenlyric | why oh why do they make quest junk grey? |
| 00:33.01 | ckknight | my cord should finally be fixed |
| 00:33.01 | ckknight | yay, someone sent me $10 |
| 00:33.01 | ckknight | good message to go with it, too |
| 00:33.02 | Lywellyn | Using r39408 like you recommended, anytime I mouse over the menu Global Settings > Colors > Reputation Bar, it doesn't show a menu, and returns the error [2007/06/17 20:28:06-5-x1]: AceAddon-2.0-39076 (Ace2):729: attempt to index local 'current' (a nil value) |
| 00:33.04 | ckknight | Lywellyn: what's wrong with em? |
| 00:33.25 | ckknight | oh right, I never did look into that |
| 00:33.28 | ckknight | still got a debugstack? |
| 00:33.38 | Lywellyn | oh, tablets? The whole "you can't click on certain lines of clickable fubar tablets" :p |
| 00:33.41 | Lywellyn | Yep, one sec |
| 00:34.07 | Lywellyn | http://ace.pastey.net/57041 |
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| 00:34.55 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40430 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: |
| 00:34.55 | CIA-22 | TabletLib: |
| 00:34.55 | CIA-22 | - hack from forums for nonresponsive Tablet buttons. Dunno if it works, but it doesn't seem to harm anything and this is the best way to find out >8) |
| 00:35.22 | Lywellyn | ooh, fun |
| 00:35.40 | Lywellyn | okay, I've never found out: What is "focus" when it comes to unit frames? |
| 00:35.48 | hyperChipmunk | your focus |
| 00:35.52 | hyperChipmunk | /focus |
| 00:36.04 | break19 | Lywellyn: you can set a unit as your |
| 00:36.05 | hyperChipmunk | it's a new frame since 2.0, like a secondary target |
| 00:36.12 | break19 | err stupid enter key |
| 00:36.23 | Lywellyn | Holy crap. |
| 00:36.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: ping |
| 00:36.29 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 00:36.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40431 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0 - bugfix |
| 00:36.30 | Lywellyn | That's awesome. |
| 00:36.33 | hyperChipmunk | check your keybindings much? |
| 00:36.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: what's the default font for Omen? |
| 00:36.38 | break19 | Lywellyn: you can set a unit as your "focus" etc |
| 00:36.52 | Lywellyn | Gah, now I have to find a place for THAT too? XD |
| 00:36.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I changed it and now it's too big and I don't know what it was using. |
| 00:37.12 | ckknight | Lywellyn: test. |
| 00:37.40 | Lywellyn | Okay, I saw tablet fix and aceaddon fix. What am I testing again? o_O |
| 00:37.42 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: ty that works, and it is UNIT_AURA but that comes up when it's applied and when it fades :-\ also, what is UNIT_MODEL_CHANGE? |
| 00:37.59 | break19 | Lywellyn: heh, my focus frame shows nothing more than hp/mana bar with a name, and buff/debuffs. no portraits, no cast bars, and only about 40px high total |
| 00:37.59 | ckknight | Lywellyn: the rep bar thing |
| 00:38.05 | hyperChipmunk | when you turn from a person to a sheep |
| 00:38.10 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r40432 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:38.10 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:38.10 | CIA-22 | - Added an item to Halaa, fixed title in Non set epics. |
| 00:38.12 | hyperChipmunk | your 3D model changes |
| 00:38.34 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/57042 <--- my new favorite function |
| 00:38.40 | hyperChipmunk | just saved me like 6 times in the last hour |
| 00:39.05 | hypetech | UNIT_AURA also triggers when I buff and debuff *sigh* |
| 00:39.14 | hyperChipmunk | that's what it does |
| 00:39.30 | hyperChipmunk | what did you expect? |
| 00:39.49 | hypetech | ya |
| 00:39.50 | hyperChipmunk | there's no event for "you got polymorphed" or "you got hit by pyroblast" |
| 00:39.56 | hypetech | heh |
| 00:40.20 | Lywellyn | I downloaded 39408.1046 from files.wowace.com/pitbull how do I update now? |
| 00:40.26 | Lywellyn | I use externals, if that matters. |
| 00:40.37 | hypetech | I guess I could just make it to whenever UNIT_AURA is fired, query for SPELL_NATURE_POLYMORPH or something |
| 00:40.45 | Lywellyn | (Bear with me, eventually, you won't have to answer these dumb questions :3) |
| 00:40.53 | hyperChipmunk | hypetech: arg1 is the chat message |
| 00:41.11 | hypetech | for UNIT_AURA, it says arg1 is "target" |
| 00:41.19 | hyperChipmunk | arg2 then =P |
| 00:41.29 | Antiarc | Hey hunters, I need some help. |
| 00:41.30 | hypetech | k, that might work then ^_^ |
| 00:42.11 | break19 | anti, i got 64 hunter, whats up |
| 00:42.46 | Antiarc | I need you to turn off all pet skills except Growl. Note your pet's AP. Have your pet attack a target, growl, and hit the target once, then call it off. Then, melee the target (fists preferred) until you pull aggro. Note the damage you had to do before you pulled aggro (like 200 damage didn't have aggro, next hit for 224 damage, had aggro) |
| 00:42.53 | Antiarc | I also need the pet level and the rank of growl |
| 00:43.09 | hyperChipmunk | has something changed? |
| 00:43.10 | Antiarc | Also, hover over the pet's AP and report the base AP and the bonus AP |
| 00:43.23 | break19 | ugh. lol. ok gimme a bit. on my rogue atm |
| 00:43.24 | hyperChipmunk | Growl 8 has been fine |
| 00:43.31 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: I've empirically shown that the growl scaling formula is very broken |
| 00:43.32 | hyperChipmunk | dead-on |
| 00:43.41 | hyperChipmunk | my growl don't scale, yo |
| 00:43.42 | Antiarc | At least sub-60 |
| 00:44.18 | Antiarc | My level 18 pet is getting scaling threat when going from 90 AP to 111 AP, rather severely, too |
| 00:44.20 | hyperChipmunk | i don't even have 1000 RAP myself =p |
| 00:44.40 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Please excuse the n00b. I'm not sure how to go about updating so I can keep 39408 yet get the lib update :3 |
| 00:44.52 | chuckg | Hmm anyone famliar with quartz timers? |
| 00:44.56 | chuckg | Can they not be re-used? |
| 00:45.16 | sbu | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 00:45.41 | Antiarc | I have 218 RAP and I'm getting scaled growl threat. |
| 00:46.01 | ckknight | Lywellyn: hrm... you could install the Ace2 addon |
| 00:46.21 | Lywellyn | ckknight: I have Ace2 by itself installed, so I just update that one? |
| 00:46.25 | ckknight | yes. |
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| 00:47.00 | Lywellyn | well WAU is useless in that regard. |
| 00:48.18 | hyperChipmunk | level 70, 941 AP (577+364), pet 511 AP (304+207), Growl is exactly 664 threat |
| 00:48.33 | Lywellyn | damnit. my sound card is freaking again. |
| 00:49.04 | hyperChipmunk | s/Growl/Growl 8/ |
| 00:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | er, that's 941 RAP |
| 00:49.49 | Lywellyn | heyyyyyyy I don't have that AceAddon-2.0 error any more when I log in! YAY! |
| 00:50.01 | hyperChipmunk | melee AP doesn't add to pet AP |
| 00:50.52 | Lywellyn | ckknight: .....and that's because I fed you the wrong damn error. The error with Rep bar colors is Dewdrop, not AceAddon >< |
| 00:51.03 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 00:51.07 | ckknight | gimme that error |
| 00:51.23 | Lywellyn | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/57044 |
| 00:51.34 | Lywellyn | I don't know why I did that >< |
| 00:51.36 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:51.51 | ckknight | one day there won't be any errors |
| 00:52.11 | hyperChipmunk | one day i will be ruler of the universe too |
| 00:52.16 | hyperChipmunk | we'll wait for it together |
| 00:52.27 | Lywellyn | and I don't have DewdropLib installed separately, either. woo. |
| 00:54.21 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: it looks like for UNIT_AURA, arg1 is simply "player" or "target" depending on if it's a self buff or not, and arg2 is nil :-\ |
| 00:54.58 | hyperChipmunk | ah, right |
| 00:54.59 | hyperChipmunk | um |
| 00:55.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40433 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - in configMode, change all texts to say their name instead of showing proper text, to make for easier configuration. |
| 00:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | CHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_[OTHER|SELF] |
| 00:55.43 | RogueShadow | mm. I like Pitbull. good job. :) Now if only I could handle the raid configuration without being slow as a turtle. Prabably just me right? |
| 00:56.22 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: I tried that one yesterday and it didn't seem to be the right event :-\ I'll check it again with expo though |
| 00:56.42 | vhaarr | hypetech: What's the problem, what do you need? |
| 00:56.47 | ckknight | RogueShadow: it makes 40 frames :-P |
| 00:57.01 | ckknight | maybe I should have it only make like 25 |
| 00:57.22 | vhaarr | ckknight: Would be nice if you could make it 2 modes, one for 25 and one for 40. |
| 00:57.32 | vhaarr | ckknight: Since people still want 40 frames in AV, for example |
| 00:57.45 | RogueShadow | I think it should have a mode for each number. 10, 15, 25, 40 |
| 00:57.49 | ckknight | vhaarr: actually was gonna put something on the wishlist: Different configurations for raid10/raid25/raid40 |
| 00:57.58 | vhaarr | sounds cool |
| 00:57.58 | ckknight | where does 15 come from? |
| 00:58.02 | hyperChipmunk | AB |
| 00:58.03 | RogueShadow | arathi |
| 00:58.07 | ckknight | ah, right. |
| 00:58.13 | hyperChipmunk | and, uh, UBRS! |
| 00:58.24 | vhaarr | lol |
| 00:58.26 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA works if it gets broken by a spell, just not the fade |
| 00:58.46 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: i could even use that arg to yell at the person who broke a sheep ^_^ jeje |
| 00:58.48 | hypetech | hehe* |
| 00:58.52 | RogueShadow | With pitbull, set up the way I like it. (so far, so many possible ways!) It's like one big group in WSG instead of my party, and a few tiny windows. |
| 00:59.06 | ckknight | I do that, too |
| 00:59.09 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-185-057.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:59.10 | ckknight | flat grouping |
| 00:59.15 | sbu | meehh |
| 00:59.17 | sbu | *selfstab* |
| 00:59.24 | ckknight | *sbustab* |
| 00:59.29 | *** join/#wowace phyber (i=phyber@irssi.co.uk) |
| 00:59.37 | sbu | i didnt get it why my computer printed "++++" and pressed "enter" all the time |
| 00:59.40 | RogueShadow | I like seeing all thier targets too, easy to find who I need to kill first. and if thier attacking the say warrior instead of the priest. |
| 01:00.13 | sbu | until i realized the 2nd keyboard and my knee on it... |
| 01:00.15 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 01:00.22 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40434 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Made the ui fancier when 'group by name' is used |
| 01:00.25 | hyperChipmunk | dork |
| 01:00.42 | sbu | yup |
| 01:00.44 | sbu | :o |
| 01:01.15 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: alright, so it is arg1 from CHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_OTHER, guess I had something wrong yesterday, thanks for your help, I'll keep playing with it :) |
| 01:01.24 | hyperChipmunk | np |
| 01:01.29 | hyperChipmunk | expo is win |
| 01:01.37 | hypetech | yes it is |
| 01:01.39 | hypetech | :) |
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| 01:05.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40435 10PitBull/ReputationBar/ReputationBar.lua: PitBull_ReputationBar - remove global setting for color, as the player's the only one with a rep bar. |
| 01:06.06 | ckknight | hypetech: what you looking for? |
| 01:06.18 | hypetech | how would I use a wildcard in a string for matching strings in a conditional? |
| 01:06.35 | ckknight | someString:match(".*") |
| 01:06.38 | hypetech | ckknight: I'm just trying to see if I can write a simple mod for when sheep breaks, it notifies you |
| 01:06.48 | hypetech | basically just poking at ace framework and lua |
| 01:06.59 | ckknight | hypetech: check out http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parser-3.0 |
| 01:07.07 | ckknight | will likely make the whole thing extremely easy. |
| 01:07.45 | Lywellyn | ckknight: That was kinda fun o_O Even with 39408, I turned on config mode for raids and it froze a bit |
| 01:07.53 | ckknight | hypetech: use the eventTypes "Fade" and "Dispel" |
| 01:07.59 | vhaarr | self:RegisterEvent("SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffLost", function(unit, name) if name:find("^Polymorph") then self:Print("Polymorph removed on " .. UnitName(unit) .. ".") end) |
| 01:08.11 | ckknight | checking auras works as well. |
| 01:08.20 | hyperChipmunk | dude, he's doing a learner addon |
| 01:08.25 | ckknight | Lywellyn: what was fun? |
| 01:08.31 | hyperChipmunk | let him work it out, yo |
| 01:08.33 | hypetech | gtfo I wanted to figure it out :p |
| 01:08.34 | hypetech | lol |
| 01:08.38 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:08.38 | hypetech | well I won't copy that ^_^ |
| 01:08.40 | ckknight | my bad |
| 01:08.49 | ckknight | I pointed you in the direction of Parser-3.0 |
| 01:08.49 | ckknight | that's all |
| 01:08.52 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 01:08.57 | hypetech | I was referring to vhaar hehe |
| 01:09.03 | ckknight | ah |
| 01:09.03 | vhaarr | hypetech: I pointed you to SEEA earlier, and you just ignored me |
| 01:09.06 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Kinda being sarcastic about it being "fun" :p |
| 01:09.08 | vhaarr | so I figured I'd just lay it on you |
| 01:09.09 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40436 10Aloft/Options/Modules/ThreatBar.lua: Aloft: Fixed threat bar options overwriting mana bar options.... |
| 01:09.15 | hypetech | vhaarr: because I have no idea what SEEA is |
| 01:09.18 | ckknight | Lywellyn: what are you referring to? |
| 01:09.19 | hyperChipmunk | ehe asked what it was =) |
| 01:09.22 | vhaarr | hypetech: I told you |
| 01:09.37 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: gtfo lawl |
| 01:09.43 | Lywellyn | Like I said, I turned on config mode for raid so I could set my raid frames up, and it did the same freeze |
| 01:09.46 | hypetech | hypetech: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0, from the SpecialEventsEmbed svn module. |
| 01:09.51 | hypetech | that doesn't tell me much :p |
| 01:10.02 | hypetech | I'm pretty basic right now |
| 01:10.08 | hypetech | obviously :( |
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| 01:10.19 | hyperChipmunk | wow, learn to program |
| 01:11.04 | hypetech | well that's what I'm attempting to do :( |
| 01:11.59 | ckknight | hypetech: what do you want to learn? |
| 01:12.39 | Lywellyn | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/57046 |
| 01:12.49 | hypetech | I don't know. I just want to be able to write some simple addons. I looked through the tutorial for WelcomeHome, and it interested me, so now I'm trying to do this sheep thing. |
| 01:13.32 | ckknight | Lywellyn: fixed on my end. I may have done it post-r39408 |
| 01:13.56 | ckknight | hypetech: okay. |
| 01:14.08 | ckknight | hypetech: well, if you have questions, feel free to ask |
| 01:14.29 | hyperChipmunk | don't mind ckknight; he wrote FuBar out of the womb |
| 01:14.32 | hypetech | hehe |
| 01:14.37 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:14.41 | ckknight | FuBar was my first addon |
| 01:15.37 | hypetech | arg1:match("Polymorph fades from*") <-- would that be true anytime a polymorph fades in my range? Am I using that wildcard correctly? Seems like the wildcard would have to be outside the quotes |
| 01:15.42 | hyperChipmunk | first published; i have a hard time believing you didn't tinker at all before |
| 01:15.56 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40437 10Prat/extras/util.lua: Prat: sorted list utility code |
| 01:15.56 | hyperChipmunk | from .* |
| 01:16.04 | hypetech | ah |
| 01:16.11 | hyperChipmunk | hypetech: http://lua.org/pil will make you smrt |
| 01:16.16 | hypetech | so if you want to use an acutal . in a string do you have to \. ? |
| 01:16.20 | ckknight | %. |
| 01:16.21 | hyperChipmunk | %. |
| 01:16.24 | hypetech | heh |
| 01:16.26 | hypetech | k |
| 01:16.27 | hypetech | ty |
| 01:16.49 | hypetech | I know a tiny bit of C++, just enough to do lua wrong apparently :p |
| 01:17.02 | hyperChipmunk | honestly, read PIL and you will be smrt |
| 01:17.09 | hyperChipmunk | that's really all you need to know |
| 01:17.17 | hypetech | oo |
| 01:17.18 | hypetech | ty |
| 01:17.29 | hyperChipmunk | spend like 2 hours and just read it through |
| 01:17.38 | hyperChipmunk | and you will emerge Enlightened |
| 01:17.56 | hypetech | I was looking up something there a couple of days ago and the syntax differed from something I saw in an ace mod, so I wasn't sure if it was standard, and didn't go back to PIL :-\ |
| 01:18.01 | hypetech | can't remember what it was though |
| 01:18.01 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk's right about that |
| 01:18.18 | ckknight | PIL is probably more right. |
| 01:18.38 | hyperChipmunk | lua can be written in so many different ways |
| 01:18.44 | hyperChipmunk | they're probably both 'right' |
| 01:18.53 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Does Pitbull support MobHealth3? |
| 01:18.54 | hypetech | hehe |
| 01:19.25 | hypetech | Lywellyn: my mobhealth3 works with pitbull as far as I can tell |
| 01:19.31 | Lywellyn | Cool. |
| 01:19.47 | ckknight | Lywellyn: yep, that's been in since the beginning |
| 01:20.16 | Lywellyn | I forgets too: Did j00 write BattlegroundFu, ckknight, or is that someone else's doing? |
| 01:20.45 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk |
| 01:21.04 | hyperChipmunk | jawhol |
| 01:21.08 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40438 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0-Misc/PeriodicTable-3.0-Misc.lua: |
| 01:21.08 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 01:21.08 | CIA-22 | -- Misc.Hearth : Hearthsone & Ruby Slippers |
| 01:21.10 | ckknight | cause he likes teh PEWPEWing against the evil hordies |
| 01:21.15 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 01:21.17 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 01:21.21 | Lywellyn | Feature request! Auto-focus on flag pickup in BGs. :p |
| 01:21.25 | Lywellyn | I'm an "evil hordie" damnit. |
| 01:21.27 | Chompers | what's PIL ? |
| 01:21.35 | hyperChipmunk | Chompers: the Holy Book |
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| 01:21.44 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think you can set focus automatically |
| 01:21.45 | Funkeh` | Chompers: the blue pil |
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| 01:21.50 | Chompers | aah, programming in lua |
| 01:21.53 | hyperChipmunk | http://lua.org/pil |
| 01:22.04 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk: i think you can |
| 01:22.28 | Roartindon | ckknight: Interesting problem that I've had over the weekend, not sure if anyone else is having it. Sporadically in 25 man raids, I'm getting hard crashes. In the first hour of magtheridon, I had 6 such crashes. Reverting to pitbull r39825 (the one before the big optimization change) removed all of my hard crashing. |
| 01:22.30 | hyperChipmunk | otherwise you could make a heal-button-mod |
| 01:22.41 | hyperChipmunk | where you just do a /cast [target=focus] Heal macro |
| 01:22.50 | Roartindon | ckknight: May be a conflict, just throwing it out here in case anyone else has experienced the same problems |
| 01:22.50 | Lywellyn | the API command is protected :3 |
| 01:22.52 | Funkeh` | mm |
| 01:22.52 | hyperChipmunk | and focus just goes to whatever needs it |
| 01:22.52 | TheKarn | ping Antiarc |
| 01:23.16 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 01:23.18 | hyperChipmunk | Decursive, etc....all that stuff would be viable again |
| 01:23.26 | ckknight | Roartindon: r39408 is supposed to be fine, after that it invokes a blizzard bug. For reference, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110644023&postId=1104460722&sid=1#11 |
| 01:23.34 | hyperChipmunk | Roartindon: /topic |
| 01:23.43 | hyperChipmunk | l2read |
| 01:23.50 | ckknight | Lywellyn: what do you play? |
| 01:23.53 | hyperChipmunk | nooooob |
| 01:23.59 | Lywellyn | Undead Mage |
| 01:24.05 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: Well, th interesting thing for me is that I was able to use r39825 fine.. a later revision than 39408 |
| 01:24.06 | ckknight | ah, alright |
| 01:24.08 | Lywellyn | and it's "/topic #wowace". n00b. |
| 01:24.16 | ckknight | <-- Draenei pally |
| 01:24.20 | hyperChipmunk | mebee for you |
| 01:24.28 | hyperChipmunk | the rest of us have non-retard clients |
| 01:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | that know what channel we're typing in |
| 01:24.37 | ckknight | Roartindon: my guess: it'll still crash for you if you use r39825 |
| 01:24.44 | ckknight | Roartindon: it's sporadic |
| 01:24.52 | Lywellyn | I use mIRC. o_O |
| 01:24.55 | Roartindon | ckknight: Okay, I'll stick with 39408 until 2.1.2 then |
| 01:25.01 | ckknight | yep |
| 01:25.05 | ckknight | which, afaik, is Tuesday |
| 01:25.11 | Lywellyn | awesome. |
| 01:25.20 | ckknight | not sure about that. |
| 01:25.24 | Lywellyn | brb, tired of this sound card bull. gotta restart computer. |
| 01:25.26 | Chompers | whats the big change in 2.1.2 that fixes the crashes ckk? |
| 01:25.35 | ckknight | Chompers: C stuff. |
| 01:25.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: ace.pastey.net/57048 |
| 01:25.43 | ckknight | not lua stuff |
| 01:25.45 | ckknight | cause the bug is in C |
| 01:26.22 | Funkeh` | hopefully its 2.1.2 this week |
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| 01:27.49 | Antiarc | Thanks ZealotOnAStick |
| 01:27.54 | Antiarc | Think I've nearly tracked that one down |
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| 01:31.19 | hypetech | w00t. I feel accomplished :) http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/WoWScrnShot_061707_212828.jpg |
| 01:31.24 | hypetech | code here :p http://rafb.net/p/HcSsAm16.html |
| 01:31.34 | ckknight | cool, hyperChipmunk |
| 01:31.37 | ckknight | hypetech: |
| 01:31.38 | ckknight | gah |
| 01:31.41 | hypetech | hehe |
| 01:31.56 | ckknight | get a name that doesn't start with hyp |
| 01:31.58 | ckknight | that's chip's |
| 01:32.21 | Roartindon | sedatedtech? :P |
| 01:32.32 | hypetech | meh. I've had this name registered on freenode way before I found wowace :p |
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| 01:32.58 | ckknight | looks good, hypetech |
| 01:33.36 | ckknight | hypetech: PolyTimer:RegisterChatCommand({"/polytimer", "/pt"}, options) => PolyTimer:RegisterChatCommand("/polytimer", "/pt", options) |
| 01:33.54 | ckknight | that's nitpicking, though |
| 01:34.11 | Roartindon | ckknight: Oh, I didn't realise that there was that form of RegisterChatCommand |
| 01:34.30 | hyperChipmunk | stop pinging meh! |
| 01:34.43 | ckknight | Roartindon: I added that |
| 01:34.46 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40439 10Assessment/Assessment.lua: Assessment: Changed RegisterChatCommand to not use a table. |
| 01:34.49 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: why? |
| 01:34.57 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
| 01:35.18 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 01:35.21 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40440 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Changed RegisterChatCommand call to not use a table |
| 01:35.35 | ckknight | should probably change mine to do that as well |
| 01:36.07 | hypetech | ckknight: ah, so no {}, k.that's how it is in the WelcomeHome tutorial though :) |
| 01:36.19 | ckknight | I'll fix that, then |
| 01:36.21 | Roartindon | hypetech: I think it's a 'recent' modification that allows no { } |
| 01:36.27 | hypetech | cool |
| 01:36.50 | ckknight | probably a month |
| 01:39.50 | TheKarn | Antiarc, you around on googletalk? |
| 01:40.00 | Antiarc | Not at the moment |
| 01:40.13 | TheKarn | k that would be why your not responding :) |
| 01:40.17 | Antiarc | Heh, yeah, it's on at work |
| 01:40.20 | TheKarn | query it is then :P |
| 01:41.23 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40441 10RapidCast/RapidCast.lua: RapidCast: Changed RegisterChatCommand to not use a table |
| 01:41.51 | Thorgard | Wut. |
| 01:42.18 | Thorgard | 'Ze Dewdrops are not responding to my mouse-overs/clicks anymore. Woe is me. |
| 01:43.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40442 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - make it so that combo points are not an option if you are not a ROGUE or DRUID. |
| 01:43.34 | ckknight | Thorgard: any errors? |
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| 01:47.55 | Thorgard | ckknight, none, they're just not responding when I mouse over options and stuff on them |
| 01:48.12 | ckknight | odd. |
| 01:48.15 | ckknight | works for me |
| 01:48.22 | Thorgard | Yeah, it was working. |
| 01:48.24 | hyperChipmunk | maybe the tablet update i just made? |
| 01:48.33 | hyperChipmunk | i really doubt it though |
| 01:48.34 | Thorgard | Just.. a few minutes ago I noticed it wasn't working anymore. ;P |
| 01:48.43 | CIA-22 | 03thekarn * r40443 10/branches/SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua: |
| 01:48.43 | CIA-22 | SanityItemCache: |
| 01:48.43 | CIA-22 | Modified the SanityItemCache:MatchExpr(...) function to work properly. |
| 01:48.43 | CIA-22 | It now properly supports quoted values (Example: 'pt:"Consumable.Weapon Buff"') |
| 01:48.43 | CIA-22 | and also brackets (Example: '(type:quest,tooltip:"quest item") !name:mark') |
| 01:48.43 | hyperChipmunk | reloading fix it? |
| 01:48.58 | Thorgard | Checking. |
| 01:49.09 | hyperChipmunk | sure it was a dewdrop and not a tablet? |
| 01:49.51 | Thorgard | I dunno which is which. Whatever most FuBar plugins use. |
| 01:50.00 | hyperChipmunk | the menu or the tooltip? |
| 01:50.04 | Thorgard | Also, whatever nQuestLog uses. |
| 01:50.06 | Thorgard | Tooltip. |
| 01:50.06 | Roartindon | Most fubar use dewdrop for right click buttons, tablet for hover |
| 01:50.11 | hyperChipmunk | that's tablet |
| 01:50.13 | hyperChipmunk | and yea |
| 01:50.14 | Thorgard | Yeah, hover menu. |
| 01:50.35 | hyperChipmunk | lots of people are having problems |
| 01:50.47 | hyperChipmunk | i checked in a fix someone suggested in the forums about an hour ago |
| 01:51.31 | hyperChipmunk | hope to give it some time to permeate and see if it makes things better, because nobody can seem to reproduce it consistently |
| 01:51.45 | Thorgard | Yeah, it seems very random. |
| 01:52.39 | dotk | + |
| 01:53.36 | sdouble | - |
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| 01:59.04 | ckknight | * |
| 02:00.36 | hyperChipmunk | / |
| 02:00.47 | Gngsk | \ |
| 02:03.22 | Thorgard | _ |
| 02:04.37 | clad|sleep | Public service announcement... Someone moving to another SVN repository doesn't in any way stop you from lending them help if you're interested in the project.. It just prevents EVERYONE from lending their help without asking. If you're willing to dismiss a mod because it moves to another SVN, then that's your problem, not the author who is moving. </rant off> |
| 02:04.55 | JoshBorke | you forgot a rant on |
| 02:05.04 | clad|sleep | ... |
| 02:05.06 | Gngsk | I'm paranoid about google |
| 02:05.11 | clad|sleep | if i start speaking, you can be sure its a rant? |
| 02:05.18 | clad|sleep | Gngsk: paranoid how/why? |
| 02:05.21 | JoshBorke | well then you forgot a rant off |
| 02:05.22 | JoshBorke | ;-P |
| 02:05.28 | Gngsk | no idea, but they're getting bad press, so I'm paranoid! |
| 02:05.32 | Gngsk | about privacy etc |
| 02:05.40 | clad|sleep | well |
| 02:05.48 | clad|sleep | so only use it for authentication to googlecode? |
| 02:05.52 | clad|sleep | then there are no issues |
| 02:05.59 | Gngsk | ok |
| 02:06.02 | clad|sleep | =) |
| 02:06.07 | clad|sleep | you can make a gmail account, not use it for anything |
| 02:06.17 | Gngsk | good idea |
| 02:06.18 | clad|sleep | but use it for svn authentication (you get a new password for svns anyway) |
| 02:06.19 | hyperChipmunk | wow, that was like 5h ago |
| 02:06.26 | hyperChipmunk | and it was not the point i was making |
| 02:06.30 | clad|sleep | hyperChipmunk: I've been away with my father |
| 02:06.36 | clad|sleep | I know you weren't, I wasn't talking to you specifically |
| 02:06.50 | clad|sleep | when have i ever shied from a direct confrontation =) |
| 02:06.55 | clad|sleep | I'd say it to you, if i was talking specifically to you :P |
| 02:07.11 | hyperChipmunk | the point was that some of the casual bugfixing that the original tinytip enjoyed would never have happened were it not on the wowace svn |
| 02:07.13 | clad|sleep | but your sentiments were echoed and its not the first time i've heard it (its been said about praid too) |
| 02:07.32 | clad|sleep | understood, due to convenience |
| 02:07.32 | clad|sleep | i get that |
| 02:08.35 | clad|sleep | ooh |
| 02:08.37 | clad|sleep | lets go :P |
| 02:09.31 | hyperChipmunk | well, the big stink was that he nuked the ace one without having a working one in his googlecode |
| 02:09.42 | Xuerian | Fair enough. I'm sure you're not in reality, Clad, but since...Late last year, you've started to appear less and less tolerant of the ace community as a whole. Moving off the svn didn't really have that much relevance, but you are also at almost every single rumble where Ace might be involved |
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| 02:10.11 | clad|sleep | I absolutely and 100% hate the ace fanatics, I have no qualms saying that. |
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| 02:10.24 | clad|sleep | I think they are a detriment to the community of developers that exists here |
| 02:10.52 | clad|sleep | I have 0 problems with the Ace developers themselves, unless the cross the line where they start putting other people's work down, or feeding into/encouraging the fanatics. |
| 02:11.02 | clad|sleep | Thats why i still have a good working relationship with most of the developers here |
| 02:11.03 | hyperChipmunk | I'm an ace fanatic because without it, i wouldn't be able to make an addon worth a lick |
| 02:11.29 | hyperChipmunk | trust me |
| 02:11.35 | hyperChipmunk | i've seen my pre-ace addons |
| 02:11.39 | Xuerian | Fair enough, and sensible, clad. |
| 02:11.42 | hyperChipmunk | it's not pretty |
| 02:11.43 | clad|sleep | Also, Xuerian, unless you know full well the shit I was put through last year by the ace fanatics, you have absolutely 0 room to judge. I was the first person to "leave" the community, and I'm not better for the wear. |
| 02:12.22 | Jagobah | whoa |
| 02:12.54 | Xuerian | clad: I'm not criticizing you for leaving and what-not, don't get me wrong. Those were my observations, and they still stand. |
| 02:13.05 | clad|sleep | I don't want pity, and I don't ask for thanks. The entire SVN structure only exists because on one Saturday I was willing and able to set it up. The last server only existed because I took 45 hours on top of a normal work week and worked on the system to get it up, running, and able to last through patches. |
| 02:13.12 | ZealotOnAStick | clad|sleep, there's a difference between "ace fanatics" and people who are just trying to respond to someone being absolutely, obstinately delusional. |
| 02:13.27 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: Not by my definition. |
| 02:13.42 | clad|sleep | or I may not be understanding what you're saying |
| 02:13.45 | clad|sleep | if you'd clarify forme |
| 02:13.45 | Xuerian | Let's not get onto emo-kitteh right now >_o |
| 02:14.13 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: I dont understand what you're saying. |
| 02:15.03 | hyperChipmunk | be nice, emo-kitteh is sensitive |
| 02:15.27 | Xuerian | clad: What I said was only a observation to fulfill your invitation after my emote. To condense it, since that time (The shit you were put through, as you describe it), you've been quick to step into arguments that involve Ace on a fringe. I don't have a problem with that. When i said i thought better of saying anything, I did, for a good few reasons. |
| 02:15.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't consider myself an "Ace Fanatic" - though I'm sure there are people who would be quick to label me one, because I'm active on the forum (hell, I'm a moderator, but that just came up from an offer to clean up some of the irritating clutter) . . . |
| 02:16.15 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40444 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: add The Illidari Council |
| 02:16.19 | ZealotOnAStick | and am present in IRC (though probably about 70% of the time idling afk without nick changes) |
| 02:16.20 | Xuerian | I'm in one of those moods where I feel like stirring things up because I feel I've been slighted. The reason why is I just finished Zeitgiest and Sicko last night and the night before, irrespectively. Thus my first emote. |
| 02:16.22 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: My issues with you deal directly with the consistent amoutn of shit you talk about me behind closed doors. And for the record, I don't think you are an Ace fanatic, and don't fall under that label in my definition. |
| 02:16.32 | Xuerian | clad: So you really don't need to take what I'm saying seriously. |
| 02:16.54 | Xuerian | Well... |
| 02:16.57 | Xuerian | Yeah, something like that |
| 02:17.11 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: If you read my comments in those arguments, they never have anything bad to say about the developers (unless again,they are inciting Ace mods) I think the libraries are great, I have my own libraries that are a subset. I have nothing wrong with the ace development community, I believe in the community SVN (i helped establish it ffs). |
| 02:17.18 | ZealotOnAStick | consistent amount of shit? Oh, DO enlighten me. I think you're an asshole at times. Perhaps most of the time when you're active in channels that I notice, because that's usually when there's some sort of drama or dispute going on (and few are at their best). |
| 02:17.47 | ZealotOnAStick | and I've poked fun about the "cult of dongle." I've made fun of Ckknight for his near-religion of worshippers too. |
| 02:18.02 | hyperChipmunk | i like cheese |
| 02:18.09 | hyperChipmunk | parmesean is my favorite |
| 02:18.14 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: *shrug* that's fine, but you never say anythign to me.. instead you talk in channel I no longer frequent. I just dnt' liek that sort of thing.. and saying I have problems with you is an overstatement.. I just wish when/if you had issues, you would come to me... man to man (plain and simple) |
| 02:18.15 | clad|sleep | i hope that makes sense. |
| 02:18.19 | hyperChipmunk | do you all like cheese? |
| 02:18.38 | ZealotOnAStick | If I honestly have an issue with YOU, I will. |
| 02:18.38 | Xuerian | clad: That was one of the interesting things, as someone who usually sits on the effective sidelines (Even if I have a loud mouth) and watches; you were (are?) one of the main people in Ace[2], and then poof you're off on WoWI and hostile at times. I'm not attacking your stances, I'm voicing a observation that I, in my first long message, disclaimered |
| 02:18.49 | hypetech | so is it considered bad form to end lua lines with a semicolon? I always thought that made code look more organized :-\ |
| 02:18.56 | ZealotOnAStick | You're a bit reactionary and a bit of an ass at times. That's not really affected me much at all. |
| 02:19.01 | Xuerian | And I mean interesting as in "curious", not sarcastic. >_> |
| 02:19.02 | hyperChipmunk | hypetech: it makes my eyes bleed |
| 02:19.04 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: My issues have to deal with the idiots who do nothign more than troll KTM's modding down non-ace views, and modding up ace views.. Or the group of oh-so-mature people who decide to mod down the latest AnduinLothar mod that comes up on WoWInterface.com just because its his, regardless of how good the mod is. |
| 02:19.07 | hyperChipmunk | but to each their own |
| 02:19.10 | hypetech | hyperChipmunk: lol |
| 02:19.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I can certain be a prick, either when I feel like it or inadvertantly. |
| 02:19.20 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: Well, I've read the snide remarks, and I don't appreciate them then. Fair is fair. |
| 02:19.36 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: Understood, I'm just attempting to clarify my position |
| 02:19.46 | JoshBorke | hypetech: lots of people swear by it |
| 02:19.46 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.54 | ckknight | hypetech: I find it icky |
| 02:19.58 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: butter? |
| 02:19.59 | Xuerian | That's my line, Tekkub :( |
| 02:20.16 | Xuerian | clad: Perfectly fair. AnduinLothar is Lothar is Discord...? |
| 02:20.28 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: ping |
| 02:20.30 | Tekkub | AL is Cosmos |
| 02:20.35 | Xuerian | Ah |
| 02:20.42 | mikma | Lozareth is Discord |
| 02:20.46 | Xuerian | Aha |
| 02:20.57 | hyperChipmunk | neither of them like cheese |
| 02:20.58 | clad|sleep | I would gladly detail for anyone why I no longer develop ace libraries, or ace addons (and have). When I did this, I was brutally attacked by the ace "fanatics" as we call them, and it hurt then,and it hurts now. My comments have been specifically tailored since this point to condemn those users, and not the development team. |
| 02:21.09 | clad|sleep | ckknigh and I have had plenty of issues, but we collaborate, and we talk |
| 02:21.16 | Tekkub | I'm not even mean to AL anymore, how sad is taht? |
| 02:21.16 | clad|sleep | both of us would never admit it =), but its true |
| 02:21.23 | hyperChipmunk | you 'talk' all right |
| 02:21.25 | ckknight | oh god, it is true! |
| 02:21.32 | ckknight | I'm friendly with clad at times |
| 02:21.37 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd like to hear the story, I've never, to my memory, heard it all officially, just a lot of hearsay. |
| 02:21.38 | ckknight | I'm sorry, everyone |
| 02:21.41 | Antiarc | I'd be curious to know 'em, clad, if you want to query me or whatever. |
| 02:21.45 | ckknight | I just... I just can't be angry all the time |
| 02:21.49 | clad|sleep | ckknight: you should be sorry! |
| 02:21.54 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:21.56 | *** kick/#wowace [ckknight!n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub] by Tekkub (You're fired for conspiring with the enemy) |
| 02:22.00 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
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| 02:22.01 | Antiarc | Hahahah |
| 02:22.02 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:22.08 | ckknight | antipants, Tekkub |
| 02:22.09 | clad|sleep | here's the Ace2 story |
| 02:22.18 | clad|sleep | "Why Clad Left Ce" |
| 02:22.21 | clad|sleep | s/Ce/Ace/ |
| 02:22.25 | hyperChipmunk | clad and ck get things done by ramming their heads together until something worthwhile falls out |
| 02:22.26 | JoshBorke | ACE? |
| 02:22.26 | Tekkub | ckk, I'm not wearing pants |
| 02:22.56 | mikma | cockporn |
| 02:22.57 | sdouble | clad|sleep. Congrats on the book. |
| 02:22.59 | hyperChipmunk | clad|sleep: you're the popcornee; you don't get to eat popcorn |
| 02:23.02 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: no, I think that we both have overinflated egos and have to take things one step at a time, really |
| 02:23.12 | clad|sleep | sdouble: thanks |
| 02:23.16 | Xuerian | CURVED-SWORD FIGHT |
| 02:23.19 | haste | inflatable dildos? |
| 02:23.33 | clad|sleep | Once upon a time, Kaelten and Cladhaire (and a few others) had some good ideas about what Ace2 should be. After writing AceHook-1.3 and working on some of the other core libraries, we recognized some things that needed to be changed. In addition, non-ace developers found some of the libraries we had useful, and wanted to use them without needing the full Ace stack. |
| 02:23.37 | hyperChipmunk | ~inflatable dildos |
| 02:24.32 | purl | Oh yea, stretch that hole! |
| 02:24.32 | JoshBorke | that'd be me |
| 02:24.33 | clad|sleep | JoshBorke: yes? |
| 02:24.33 | JoshBorke | non-ace developer who wanted to use some libraries without the stack |
| 02:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | purl: you disappoint me |
| 02:25.03 | clad|sleep | JoshBorke: someone who wanted the AceHook portion of Ace without needing to use all of Ace |
| 02:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 02:25.04 | Tekkub | hC blame kergoth |
| 02:25.04 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 02:25.04 | JoshBorke | nvm, continue your story |
| 02:25.04 | Tekkub | or don't |
| 02:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:25.04 | Tekkub | purl's just slow |
| 02:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | that's worse than the old one |
| 02:25.06 | clad|sleep | Clad began work on AceLibrary, using Tek's Lib, Iriel'd Stub and the AceHook1.3 stub, and started to understand what direction we needed to head in. Kergoth is an OO whore, so he began work on an AceOO which you all know and love. |
| 02:25.22 | JoshBorke | kergoth, you dirty dirty whore |
| 02:25.26 | ckknight | is this the point where I come in? |
| 02:25.27 | Tekkub | fuck you OO |
| 02:25.37 | hyperChipmunk | don't forget ckk's profile/db system from fubar |
| 02:25.39 | clad|sleep | Since AceLibrary is at the very core of the embedded library system, Clad wanted that and a few other libraries tested. |
| 02:25.44 | Tekkub | ckk, you come in in chapter 5 |
| 02:25.56 | Xuerian | Tekkub: That's a lot of fapping. |
| 02:25.56 | hyperChipmunk | naw, dude, that was part of it |
| 02:25.59 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: no peeking ahead |
| 02:26.03 | clad|sleep | Clad invited Tekkub and Ckknight into the dev channel, and asked them to write some unit tests for the code, since they were anxious to get the work done (and they happened to havemuch more time than the actual dev team) |
| 02:26.13 | hyperChipmunk | everyone was making everything a fubar because they wanted the db system |
| 02:26.21 | ckknight | oh yea, that was when I was unemployed |
| 02:26.30 | Tekkub | tek and ckk never wrote a single test, the users can test shit why should we... |
| 02:26.39 | ckknight | no way, I wrote over 50 tests |
| 02:26.40 | clad|sleep | That turned very quickly into what I would describe as a tug-of-war between ckknight changing/rewriting/testing a new library, and changing everythign we had scope or expected. Nothing BAD.. just difficult. |
| 02:26.48 | hyperChipmunk | ck didn't even have a wow install |
| 02:26.51 | hyperChipmunk | i did all the testing |
| 02:26.54 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 02:27.00 | JoshBorke | tek doesn't test anything |
| 02:27.03 | ckknight | most of the testing was done out of WoW |
| 02:27.07 | ckknight | that's an aside, though |
| 02:27.08 | Tekkub | tek doesn't have to |
| 02:27.13 | clad|sleep | ckknight: correct |
| 02:27.22 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: and promptly broke inside |
| 02:27.23 | Xuerian | Addons working in wow are just a pleasant side-effect. |
| 02:27.25 | Tekkub | 10 lines of code means super minimal room for bugs to happen! |
| 02:27.35 | clad|sleep | Then little by little, features started to get put in places I didn't agree with, like argcheck functions in AceLibrary, and other "convenience" functions, blowing the extremely small and focused AceLibrary stub, into a library of its own. When I disagreed with these, ckknight said "Why Not?" and I said "Why?" |
| 02:27.35 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: depending on length of line |
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| 02:28.04 | clad|sleep | (fun aside, if i had to describe the difference between ckknight and I, it would be that). I don't think either is inherently better, I just think they're different. |
| 02:28.05 | hyperChipmunk | ooh, point for clad on the argcheck; i hate those friggin things |
| 02:28.21 | clad|sleep | hyperChipmunk: I just didn't feel those functions belonged in a versioning stub |
| 02:28.24 | Tekkub | you know, I can really sum it up in like, not a novel like clad's writing |
| 02:28.25 | hyperChipmunk | that's when ck was on his asserting spree |
| 02:28.33 | Tekkub | Ace1: we made fun of Sea.... |
| 02:28.40 | hyperChipmunk | and kept making addons error when they were just fine |
| 02:28.43 | Tekkub | Ace2: Became Sea, embeddable |
| 02:28.44 | clad|sleep | DO the argchecks, sure.. btu why do we need to include all those functions in every single versioned tabled. |
| 02:28.53 | kergoth | argument checking is a good thing, then the dev gets blamed when they fuck up instead of the library itself |
| 02:28.56 | Tain | First they came for Sea, and I said nothing because I don't use Sea. |
| 02:29.03 | clad|sleep | kergoth: agreed. |
| 02:29.15 | ckknight | clad|sleep: cause it's useful for nearly all libraries and Kaelten said it was okay |
| 02:29.29 | clad|sleep | ckknight: understood.. I'm just telling the story |
| 02:29.32 | clad|sleep | it works out for you int he end |
| 02:29.32 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:29.34 | kergoth | re: OO, i'm primarily a C dev, only dabbled in C++ and python at the time.. I wrote AceOO while I was reading enough articles on OO concepts to sink a ship |
| 02:29.34 | hyperChipmunk | here we go again! |
| 02:29.35 | clad|sleep | but its the crux of why i left |
| 02:29.38 | ckknight | okay. |
| 02:29.48 | clad|sleep | Then we reached a point where every Ace2 library was going to be a mix-in, and I disagreed with that, since it means every single library was going to require AceLibrary and AceOO. |
| 02:29.55 | Xuerian | kergoth: HMMMMM COINCIDENCe |
| 02:29.58 | Xuerian | s/e/E/ |
| 02:30.02 | kergoth | :p |
| 02:30.03 | Xuerian | dammit. |
| 02:30.04 | ckknight | kergoth: AceOO is like the 8th iteration of it or so :-P |
| 02:30.08 | clad|sleep | I felt every single library should be a single file, or with perhaps AceLibrary being the only common bit. |
| 02:30.13 | ckknight | kergoth: (not that that's bad) |
| 02:30.25 | clad|sleep | ckknight didn't agree, and Kaelten really didn't side with either of us |
| 02:30.29 | clad|sleep | It was a hard position for him |
| 02:30.43 | Kaelten | I think I had real life to deal with at that particular point |
| 02:30.44 | Xuerian | "Mommy? Daddy? Why are you fighting...?" |
| 02:30.46 | ckknight | yea, my philosophy allows for liberal inter-library dependencies |
| 02:30.47 | clad|sleep | The dev channel was a nasty place, with ckknight and I fighting on a nightly basis about WHY he included something into the core of a library. |
| 02:30.48 | Kaelten | or I didn't catch the issue |
| 02:30.50 | Kaelten | either way |
| 02:30.53 | clad|sleep | Kaelten: I don't blame you, I'm just saying =) |
| 02:31.06 | clad|sleep | It got to a point, where I didn't want to code anymore, because every time I did I got into a fight |
| 02:31.12 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: i blame you. it's all your fault |
| 02:31.24 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: so was ww3 |
| 02:31.33 | clad|sleep | and this thing called "Ace2" turned from what Kaelten and I wanted to see, into what ckknight wanted to see (that's great, it serves a SPECTACULAR purpose.. its just not what I wanted) |
| 02:31.37 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: exactly |
| 02:31.53 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: glad you agree :_D |
| 02:32.07 | clad|sleep | Since the project was no longer what I wanted to work on, and it had grown too far away from me, there was too much conflict, and I was emotionally getting hurt from the nightly interactions, I left. |
| 02:32.17 | clad|sleep | Clique used almost no ace, so I removed it and made my own convenience functions |
| 02:32.23 | art3mis | mommy and daddy are fighting because they're upset with you |
| 02:32.26 | ckknight | read: I stole the general concept of Ace2 and bastardized it into what we have today. |
| 02:32.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:32.31 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 02:32.36 | Tekkub | Synopsis: Ace2 became ckk's design, clad threw a pissy, everyone hates everyone |
| 02:32.44 | clad|sleep | Tekkub: ... |
| 02:32.47 | ckknight | basically. |
| 02:32.47 | clad|sleep | fine guys |
| 02:32.51 | clad|sleep | I'm not kidding around here |
| 02:32.55 | clad|sleep | *shrug* whatever. |
| 02:32.56 | clad|sleep | i'm done. |
| 02:32.57 | hyperChipmunk | dude, that's tek |
| 02:32.58 | Xuerian | hey now, I'm enjoying the story. Don't stop >_o |
| 02:33.02 | Antiarc | I'm glad to hear the story |
| 02:33.06 | hyperChipmunk | you know better than to get insulted by him |
| 02:33.09 | *** kick/#wowace [Tekkub!n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by Kaelten (don't be a ninie) |
| 02:33.10 | clad|sleep | Tekkub: calm the fuck down for two seconds, please. |
| 02:33.12 | hyperChipmunk | shame on you |
| 02:33.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:33.21 | Xuerian | That's N-I-N-N-Y |
| 02:33.24 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:33.24 | Tain | Look at picture of new kitten and be happy. http://www.crushingdreams.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSC_1535.jpg |
| 02:33.26 | Kaelten | oh, whoops |
| 02:33.27 | clad|sleep | I wanted to move PerfectRaid, but I needed more to do that, and then I decided that I should just write something small for myself. |
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| 02:33.29 | Kaelten | my bad |
| 02:33.29 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:33.29 | Xuerian | or hm |
| 02:33.32 | Tekkub | muahahaha |
| 02:33.33 | Xuerian | yes ninny. |
| 02:33.34 | mikma | revenge! |
| 02:33.35 | Funkeh` | lol# |
| 02:33.37 | Funkeh` | pwnd |
| 02:33.44 | art3mis | Tekkub: yeah mark me down for hating zuer and hyper and anti arc cuz they wont share thier cookies with me |
| 02:33.49 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: (22:33:11) clad|sleep: Tekkub: calm the fuck down for two seconds, please. <-- because you missed it |
| 02:33.59 | Xuerian | art3mis: No cookies 4 juu |
| 02:34.00 | clad|sleep | Dongle.lua was born.. now I'm working (slowly) to make the libraries that I wanted to create originally, because there is still a place for them in the addon community. |
| 02:34.01 | JoshBorke | uh oh, tem woke up |
| 02:34.04 | art3mis | noooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:34.09 | Tem | hardly |
| 02:34.20 | Tem | I got back from father's day stuff |
| 02:34.21 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.31 | art3mis | so really then EVERYTHING that goes wrong with every addon is indeed ckk's fault |
| 02:34.31 | Tekkub | tem woke up with a raging hardly/ |
| 02:34.31 | clad|sleep | I don't think AceComm needs anything more than AceLibrary, or the Threat-1.0 shoudl have crazy interdependencies. |
| 02:34.32 | Tekkub | ? |
| 02:34.32 | art3mis | thats what im getting from all this |
| 02:34.48 | clad|sleep | On the library level, not a ton of sharing is actually done, although when you're running the full ace stack it does help |
| 02:34.52 | ckknight | clad|sleep: I think AceComm uses AceLibrary and AceOO (cause of the mixin thing) |
| 02:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I think dongle was written to see what was more powerful: the lure of a nice clean library, or the stigma of the word dongle |
| 02:35.00 | clad|sleep | ckknight: aye, i hate the aceoo thing :P |
| 02:35.08 | clad|sleep | hyperChipmunk: *wink* |
| 02:35.14 | art3mis | hahah hyper |
| 02:35.14 | Antiarc | Threat's kinda this weird-ass hybrid lib/addon thing |
| 02:35.20 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: i use it because it's named dongle, it's true |
| 02:35.28 | ckknight | clad|sleep: if I could do it over, I'd probably leave AceOO out and simplify the mixin process immensely |
| 02:35.34 | ckknight | imho |
| 02:35.39 | clad|sleep | Dongle.lua was a proof of concept to see if we could actually build addons. and Dongle's next iteration will return to exactly what we had intended Ace2 to be. |
| 02:35.39 | hyperChipmunk | worst copy protection scheme...evar |
| 02:35.42 | clad|sleep | Its really as simple as that |
| 02:35.44 | clad|sleep | ckknight: I fought for it, I lost =) |
| 02:35.47 | ckknight | cause mixins are great, imho, AceOO does more than it needs |
| 02:35.48 | kergoth | at the time i was torn between the use of aceoo in libraries and not. it seemed useful to avoid doing the mixin stuff in one place, but on the other hand, it turned out that most addons didnt -use- the aceoo functionality, so its really best off being a seperate entity |
| 02:35.51 | nymbia | and that's how Ace3 was born |
| 02:35.54 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 02:35.54 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 02:35.59 | kergoth | er, avoid not doing it one place |
| 02:36.02 | kergoth | silly fingers, type what i mean |
| 02:36.05 | clad|sleep | When I left the community |
| 02:36.05 | art3mis | hyperChipmunk: no way dongle prot ruled |
| 02:36.08 | ckknight | nymbia: thought about it, too much effort |
| 02:36.20 | clad|sleep | wowinterface exploded with negative comments on my addons, and people telling me to re-ace my addons |
| 02:36.23 | Funkeh` | nymbia: agreed ;) |
| 02:36.28 | clad|sleep | and peopel acting exactly as they did today to Thrae |
| 02:36.28 | Xuerian | That was rude :( |
| 02:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | "where's the dongle? who has the dongle? $#!% it's in the other building" |
| 02:36.44 | ckknight | clad|sleep: (which imho, is a bad move on the re-acers) |
| 02:36.47 | clad|sleep | saying "Clique was awesome when it was aced, but now it sucks"... |
| 02:36.52 | clad|sleep | ckknight: I agree, 100% |
| 02:36.54 | Xuerian | Gimmeh meh donglie-bits! |
| 02:36.58 | clad|sleep | The community hit me REALLY hard |
| 02:37.04 | art3mis | hyperChipmunk: heh was most effective at driving crackers insane though |
| 02:37.08 | clad|sleep | ckknight knows it, I think I talked to him about it, after a blow up |
| 02:37.18 | clad|sleep | on the wow forums, on wowinterface, and in this channel |
| 02:37.20 | hyperChipmunk | and legit users >8P |
| 02:37.22 | Tekkub | aye, the moral of clad's novel is, WTF is this shit going down with TinyTip?" |
| 02:37.22 | ckknight | yep. |
| 02:37.29 | clad|sleep | so I left the channel for quite some time, since I couldn't handle that. |
| 02:37.34 | art3mis | hyperChipmunk: heh yeah and legit users |
| 02:37.35 | ckknight | I dunno, everyone got in a huge hissy with TinyTip |
| 02:37.47 | art3mis | i had my Arcinfo dongle on my keyring |
| 02:37.54 | hyperChipmunk | cuz he friggin buhleeted it |
| 02:37.54 | ckknight | btw, clad|sleep, <3 Lightheaded :-P |
| 02:37.59 | clad|sleep | ckknight: and receiving "threats" about your addons when you remove them from the ace svn is.. a bad thing :P |
| 02:38.03 | clad|sleep | ckknight: thanks.. =) |
| 02:38.06 | Xuerian | .... 0_o |
| 02:38.06 | hyperChipmunk | before something of equal use was in his own repo |
| 02:38.08 | Xuerian | Threats? |
| 02:38.12 | Funkeh` | threats? |
| 02:38.17 | clad|sleep | yeah, |
| 02:38.21 | clad|sleep | telling you how little users you're going to get |
| 02:38.23 | clad|sleep | that peopel will no longer help |
| 02:38.27 | clad|sleep | that someone will just make an ace versino |
| 02:38.30 | clad|sleep | those are all threats |
| 02:38.33 | hyperChipmunk | I told clad i'd eat his firstborn |
| 02:38.34 | clad|sleep | innocuous as they seem. |
| 02:38.50 | clad|sleep | and you know what, they HURT the person on the other side of the wire |
| 02:38.58 | hyperChipmunk | we haggled down to his first daughter though |
| 02:39.00 | ckknight | actually it was suggested to me (a few months back) that I work on a tooltip addon, it might happen, but that's of no correlation with TinyTip |
| 02:39.00 | clad|sleep | even when prefaced with "Just letting you knwo that..." |
| 02:39.18 | ckknight | also, I'm too busy right now to mess with that |
| 02:39.19 | Funkeh` | hm |
| 02:39.26 | art3mis | laugh hyper |
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| 02:39.33 | Xuerian | .... That's retarded o_0 |
| 02:39.34 | clad|sleep | ckknight: I know, i read your comment and was like "that fuck", then you clarified. |
| 02:39.38 | clad|sleep | that made me happier |
| 02:39.41 | art3mis | hyperChipmunk: upon her turning 18 you get to eat her? |
| 02:39.43 | mikma | after all Thrae did say that he's gonna most likely take Dongle out of TinyTip |
| 02:39.51 | clad|sleep | but other people were saying it "someone is just gonna write a new tinytip mod" |
| 02:39.55 | hyperChipmunk | and I had to wait 18 years; that was the terms |
| 02:39.57 | clad|sleep | mikma: I don't want peopel using Dongle if they don't use it =) |
| 02:40.01 | hyperChipmunk | art3mis: precisely |
| 02:40.07 | clad|sleep | personally, I dont agree with the way addons are released on the ace svn, and I like gcode's tracking system, so I use it |
| 02:40.08 | art3mis | *rimshot* |
| 02:40.22 | clad|sleep | s/use it/don't use it. |
| 02:40.28 | clad|sleep | err yeah, you get the point. |
| 02:40.29 | art3mis | lets go back to the start of this for a second |
| 02:40.36 | ckknight | which start? |
| 02:40.37 | art3mis | clad is making a library system as well? |
| 02:40.41 | ckknight | he made Dongle |
| 02:40.41 | Xuerian | art3mis: ... |
| 02:40.44 | Xuerian | Old news |
| 02:40.46 | clad|sleep | dot dot dot |
| 02:40.46 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 02:40.47 | Xuerian | Misnomers ftw |
| 02:40.48 | ckknight | it's like Ace1, embedded, and miniature |
| 02:40.53 | art3mis | ahh okay |
| 02:41.02 | clad|sleep | ckknight: working on the modularity of it in the next release |
| 02:41.02 | art3mis | i missed parts what with finding my cat and eatting ;P |
| 02:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | see, that's what you get for moving off the wowace svn |
| 02:41.03 | Tekkub | without ace1's shitty DB |
| 02:41.10 | ckknight | *shudder* |
| 02:41.12 | hyperChipmunk | GetOpt! |
| 02:41.14 | JoshBorke | art3mis: you ate your cat? o.O |
| 02:41.15 | clad|sleep | so they tie into one core, and exist outside. |
| 02:41.17 | Kaelten | Tekkub: Ace1's DB was good for the time. |
| 02:41.21 | ckknight | clad|sleep: ah, okay, I didn't like how there was one big core |
| 02:41.28 | art3mis | -- hai! |
| 02:41.28 | clad|sleep | ckknight: yeah me neither =) |
| 02:41.29 | ckknight | Kaelten: not good enough for me! |
| 02:41.31 | Tekkub | GetOpt == I save my addon object to SV.... recursively |
| 02:41.44 | clad|sleep | ckknight: you knwo my mods. .. all hacky proof of concepts, then evolving maturity =) |
| 02:41.45 | ckknight | Kaelten: that's why I rewrite it in FuBar 1.2 |
| 02:41.52 | clad|sleep | I'd be more than willing to get into more details about any of this, but I will be going to bed soon |
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| 02:41.55 | ckknight | clad|sleep: yep. |
| 02:42.09 | clad|sleep | lightheaded is the perfect example of that =) |
| 02:42.10 | Kaelten | ckknight: I need a way to disable profiles in AceDB |
| 02:42.12 | JoshBorke | gd you clad |
| 02:42.16 | clad|sleep | "shit can i make this work?" |
| 02:42.17 | JoshBorke | you kept me up an extra 40 minutes |
| 02:42.27 | clad|sleep | oh.. LightHeaded is getting deDE support this week |
| 02:42.30 | Xuerian | JoshBorke: I was kidding when i said a lot of fapping... |
| 02:42.30 | ckknight | Kaelten: easiest way is to just disable the menu option. |
| 02:42.40 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: oh, you were? ... |
| 02:42.47 | clad|sleep | I have a lot of real important real-life decisions to make this week.. so I'll be around, feel free to ping me |
| 02:42.50 | ckknight | Kaelten: self.options.profile.hidden = true |
| 02:42.50 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 02:42.53 | clad|sleep | but this sermon is over my friends =) |
| 02:42.55 | mikma | no, he's just trying to act like he was |
| 02:43.06 | Kaelten | ckknight: but could I do self.db.foo.bar = bob |
| 02:43.14 | Xuerian | Well, thanks for the info Clad. Fills in a lot of the blanks +) |
| 02:43.26 | Xuerian | And not in that maddening, I want to kill someone, way of zeitgeist >.> |
| 02:43.32 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: I'm not sure if it clarifies anything, adn I skimmed on the "attacking of the community" part |
| 02:43.34 | ckknight | Kaelten: no, do self.db.account.foo.bar = bob |
| 02:43.37 | clad|sleep | but those are bad peopel, we don't talk about them |
| 02:43.50 | Kaelten | ckknight: ya I don't want the account table int he saved variables. |
| 02:44.01 | Xuerian | clad|sleep: More information helps me extrapolate and reason things :P |
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| 02:44.20 | ckknight | why? it's one extra table, only... |
| 02:44.20 | ckknight | also, Kaelten, other stuff is saved on self.db |
| 02:44.22 | ckknight | like .raw |
| 02:44.22 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: k.. i'm always happy to give.. one thing that can be said for me, i'll never not answer your questions :P |
| 02:44.28 | ckknight | and .currentProfile and such |
| 02:44.30 | Xuerian | Ok, one before you go. |
| 02:44.34 | JoshBorke | clad|sleep: liar, you always ignore me |
| 02:44.35 | art3mis | clad|sleep: can i have yer wife for a weekend? |
| 02:44.38 | clad|sleep | i'm not going :P |
| 02:44.43 | Xuerian | oh. |
| 02:44.45 | Xuerian | Well then. |
| 02:44.48 | ckknight | but you must sleep |
| 02:44.50 | clad|sleep | art3mis: My boyfriend would be rather upset to find out that I have a wife |
| 02:44.51 | hyperChipmunk | art3mis: i don't think you want that |
| 02:45.00 | clad|sleep | ckknight: Sleep time is soon, but not yet. |
| 02:45.02 | art3mis | can he cook and swallow? |
| 02:45.05 | art3mis | ;) |
| 02:45.09 | clad|sleep | art3mis: like you wouldn't believe |
| 02:45.12 | Tekkub | at the same time |
| 02:45.15 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:45.15 | clad|sleep | not so much on the cooking. |
| 02:45.15 | Kaelten | ya, but I don't want to have any type of profiling |
| 02:45.16 | art3mis | hrm..... |
| 02:45.18 | art3mis | hehe |
| 02:45.31 | Funkeh` | swalling? right.. |
| 02:45.36 | ckknight | Kaelten: you just want account-based, nothing else? |
| 02:45.38 | Xuerian | clad: What about specifying specific frames instead of just "hostile" and "friendly" in clique? I'm running out of clicks on my lock... Seeing as I haven't slotted any 'active' spells >_> |
| 02:45.39 | Funkeh` | swallowing* even |
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| 02:45.54 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: how are you running out of clicks? |
| 02:45.55 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: You'd want the ability to build your own "sets" of frames? |
| 02:45.57 | Kaelten | ckknight: yep, basically |
| 02:46.00 | ckknight | Kaelten: also, it's tricky cause other modules can use the db.raw, e.g. AceModuleCore |
| 02:46.08 | ckknight | disabledModules goes on it |
| 02:46.13 | Xuerian | clad|sleep: Pretty much, even if it's just manually providing frame names |
| 02:46.18 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 02:46.22 | JoshBorke | you have 30 configurations per button |
| 02:46.25 | ckknight | Kaelten: so frankly, it is simplest to just do local db = self.db.account |
| 02:46.27 | ckknight | and edit that |
| 02:46.34 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: I've considered it a few times, but was never clear on how the UI would work.. I have a revamp I'd liek to do, i'll try to see if I can get it in. |
| 02:46.38 | Xuerian | JoshBorke: Think: Every lock spell/ability, short of summons and soulstone/healthstone, bound to clicks |
| 02:46.41 | Kaelten | but that still leaves the artifacts in the sv file |
| 02:46.54 | JoshBorke | that's 150 unique combinations |
| 02:47.00 | JoshBorke | on a 5 button mouse |
| 02:47.00 | Xuerian | JoshBorke: yeah >_o |
| 02:47.04 | Xuerian | *3 |
| 02:47.14 | JoshBorke | fine, 90 unique combinations |
| 02:47.18 | JoshBorke | that's absurd |
| 02:47.26 | Xuerian | It makes my head hurt, but I'm committed to it! |
| 02:47.27 | JoshBorke | imo :-P |
| 02:47.41 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: what other options would you have? |
| 02:47.53 | Xuerian | But still, it'd be much nicer to have all my pet's abilities on their frames, or buff-other abilities on party frames instead of buff-self |
| 02:48.15 | Xuerian | right now buff-other and pet abilities are all stacked on the "Friendly" pile |
| 02:48.28 | clad|sleep | Xuerian: I'll think about what I can do for that =) |
| 02:48.31 | clad|sleep | but |
| 02:48.35 | clad|sleep | wouldn't clique profiles work for you |
| 02:48.36 | clad|sleep | ? |
| 02:48.50 | clad|sleep | do /clique profile set Buffing |
| 02:48.53 | Xuerian | clad|sleep: Am I missing a major feature...? >-> |
| 02:48.59 | clad|sleep | then its set to all of your souldstone/healthstone/buffing |
| 02:49.13 | clad|sleep | and /clique profile set Solo, or Combat, or Raid, etc. |
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| 02:49.29 | Xuerian | Oh. No, well, like in combat. I want to seduce a target, I have some obscure ctrl-alt-shift-click bound for it, which has to share space with my void's abilities |
| 02:49.44 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: create macros |
| 02:49.46 | clad|sleep | ah gotcha |
| 02:49.49 | clad|sleep | you could use macros, yeah |
| 02:49.56 | Xuerian | Yeah I've thoght of that |
| 02:50.00 | clad|sleep | to cast a different spell based on void/imp |
| 02:50.08 | Xuerian | And probably will, but I still think it'd be neat to define custom framesets, as you put it |
| 02:50.28 | clad|sleep | yeah, i think its a coo idea |
| 02:50.32 | clad|sleep | just a bit cumbersome |
| 02:50.37 | clad|sleep | tho i could see how macros could get weird. |
| 02:50.38 | JoshBorke | i could see making it based on unit rather than friendly/hostile might work |
| 02:50.48 | clad|sleep | there might be something i could do with state headers. |
| 02:51.09 | JoshBorke | ok, sleep for me now! |
| 02:51.10 | JoshBorke | fuck you clad! |
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| 02:51.23 | Xuerian | clad|sleep: That's why I 'put on flame-retardant' gear :P. I cheaped out, I haven't looked at Clique's guts to see how complicated it'd be to allow for new sets or even a "Add a custom frame/frame override" |
| 02:51.35 | clad|sleep | it would be tough right now |
| 02:51.51 | clad|sleep | its just the secure templates from Alpha,with some updates. |
| 02:51.57 | Xuerian | Ahh |
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| 02:55.54 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40445 10EnchantingSell/ (EnchantingSell_frames.lua EnchantingSell_templates.xml): |
| 02:55.54 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 02:55.54 | CIA-22 | - removed unused price xml template |
| 02:55.54 | CIA-22 | - implemented enchant list column sorting |
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| 02:59.47 | Xuerian | o.o |
| 03:00.24 | Fisker- | looks like you're a n00b |
| 03:00.47 | Xuerian | Of course I am. What were you expecting? |
| 03:01.26 | Xuerian | I've resided in communities where being jumped required varying reactions... XD |
| 03:01.32 | Fisker- | :o |
| 03:02.01 | Xuerian | What, you think SurpriseBUTTYIFF is a joke? 0_o |
| 03:02.10 | Xuerian | You naive little Fisker- you. |
| 03:03.08 | Fisker- | :I? |
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| 03:11.08 | BankZ | Anyone know of an addon that tracks raid cooldowns, for things like battle rez and SS, besides oRA2? |
| 03:11.24 | art3mis | http://files.wowace.com |
| 03:11.28 | art3mis | ;) |
| 03:11.37 | art3mis | i know theres like 2 |
| 03:11.52 | Xuerian | http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fparties%2F2007%2Fnullarbor07%2Fgamedev%2Fnul07-return_to_zero.zip&fileinfo -- Something random :D |
| 03:11.57 | art3mis | but the names are retarded so i didnt rememeber them |
| 03:12.27 | kbh | i like to use NECB for tracking raid cooldowns |
| 03:12.40 | kbh | you click on the appropriate person and see whats on CD |
| 03:13.17 | BankZ | Isnt NECB kinda a pig? |
| 03:14.06 | kbh | well it isnt ace |
| 03:14.11 | kbh | but ive always liked it |
| 03:14.27 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/c272.html |
| 03:15.00 | syeren | Is Recount a fully independant damage meter which syncs with the other damage meters? |
| 03:15.00 | Wobwork | art3mis: So true |
| 03:22.03 | clad|sleep | goodnight all |
| 03:22.34 | ckknight | g'night |
| 03:23.05 | Funkeh` | whats the event for an interupted spell |
| 03:23.56 | Xuerian | 'night clad. |
| 03:24.56 | Funkeh` | i.e. you fail to cast such n such as it was interupted by badass rogue |
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| 03:25.50 | Funkeh` | ckknight doesn't have damage meters, he has a paser |
| 03:25.53 | smoke_ | hey guys, when i join a bg sometimes my wow freezes, is it from ag unit frames? i only have my portrait and target portrait enabled, so i dont think its coming from that.. anyone else getting this? |
| 03:25.56 | Funkeh` | parser* |
| 03:26.00 | syeren | ckknight, anything you touch turns to the new standard for the community ;) |
| 03:26.14 | Xuerian | Fisker-: I'm happily a kb-mashing fps-playing twitch gamer at heart |
| 03:26.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40446 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add a whole bunch of options to combo point position |
| 03:26.23 | RogueShadow | smoke_: I had that problem, I think it was x-perl. |
| 03:26.24 | Funkeh` | syeren: you clearly didn't see hes AceLocale changes |
| 03:26.34 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:26.36 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: But pretty much the only keys i use in wow are wasdqeb[ctrl+f1/2/3/4] |
| 03:26.37 | syeren | zzzzzzz, I speak Engrish! |
| 03:26.39 | hyperChipmunk | oh, zing |
| 03:26.44 | syeren | nymbia: ping :P |
| 03:27.03 | ckknight | alright, gotta head out to father's day dinner |
| 03:27.06 | ckknight | cya all later |
| 03:27.11 | Xuerian | 'night ck. |
| 03:27.13 | Funkeh` | cya |
| 03:27.50 | ckknight | wrt damage/healing meter library, basically, I want to do the same thing Threat-1.0 did, only with damage/healing, so that there's a nice, easy standard |
| 03:27.52 | ZealotOnAStick | yay consortium revered |
| 03:28.00 | ckknight | that I can arbitrary use in my other mods (mostly DogTag and PitBull) |
| 03:28.04 | ckknight | cause then when that happens |
| 03:28.07 | ckknight | ... |
| 03:28.10 | ckknight | oh... |
| 03:28.17 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 03:28.35 | ckknight | say I make a tooltip addon (for argument, let's call it Gazelle), hover over, oh, there's all that unit's stats. |
| 03:28.35 | ckknight | bam |
| 03:28.37 | Xuerian | Dawn of the... ADDON-LIBRARY HYBRID ZOMBIES |
| 03:28.38 | ckknight | can I say bam? |
| 03:28.38 | ckknight | yes, bam. |
| 03:28.57 | hyperChipmunk | knock it up a notch? |
| 03:29.04 | ckknight | just one, though |
| 03:29.12 | Funkeh` | wowwiki didn't help much, surely theres an event for it |
| 03:29.29 | ckknight | I need to study the current damage meter addons, though... |
| 03:29.41 | hyperChipmunk | that is a step backwards |
| 03:29.42 | Kemayo | Hey, I started it all! |
| 03:29.46 | ckknight | I like violation's way |
| 03:29.46 | ckknight | may just steal it. |
| 03:29.59 | Kemayo | Damn kids, get off my lawn! |
| 03:29.59 | Antiarc | ckknight: Parser-3.0 registers pet Happiness gains as "Unknown" type |
| 03:30.13 | ckknight | Antiarc: oh, want to fix that? ;-) |
| 03:30.20 | Gagorian | ckknight: Then, also, based on current DPS a mob receives you can give us time to said mob is dead! |
| 03:30.23 | ckknight | Antiarc: it won't be hard, just look for "Rage", and add "Happiness" stuff |
| 03:30.23 | Antiarc | Not really, don't need it, just noting it :P |
| 03:30.30 | Antiarc | Doing Mag ATM |
| 03:30.32 | ckknight | Gagorian: quite possible |
| 03:30.42 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:30.45 | ckknight | well, I'll handle it later |
| 03:30.56 | ckknight | ah, fuck it |
| 03:31.49 | Gagorian | That's something I've been thinking about for a while. Trash sometimes have insane amounts of hp so it would be nice to see how long based on either burst or over time DPS (maybe last 10s or whatever) it takes until it dies. |
| 03:32.16 | Gagorian | Perhaps even moreso at boss fights, even if it's not as useful on all encounters |
| 03:32.47 | Gagorian | But would allow for example to see if DPS is enough to kill it before enrage in 2 mins or whatever |
| 03:32.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40447 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add "Happiness" as an attribute. |
| 03:33.25 | ckknight | okay, I'm off. |
| 03:33.35 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r40448 10Cartographer_Cleanup/Cleanup.lua: |
| 03:33.35 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Cleanup : |
| 03:33.35 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:33.49 | Gagorian | ckknight: I will pester you until you implement it then. Buhbye! |
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| 03:37.35 | Kaydeethree | gah... void reaver really is a loot pinata |
| 03:37.50 | Kaydeethree | got him on pull #5 |
| 03:37.58 | Wobwork | You have to hit it with a stick blindly til you get something good? |
| 03:39.43 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r40449 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 03:39.43 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_QuestObjectives: |
| 03:39.43 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:44.47 | Antiarc | So we're doing Mag |
| 03:44.57 | Antiarc | And on the DPS charts, our MS warrior-god is #2 |
| 03:45.01 | Antiarc | And the shaman he's dual-boxing is #10 |
| 03:49.05 | kaiden | aka lord make me in the image of vishnu |
| 03:49.06 | kaiden | lol |
| 03:56.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaydeethree: He is. |
| 03:57.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, so, I just finally had time to read all the scrollback from when I got busy in game with stuff (which was about the 3rd chunk of Clad's story) . . . |
| 03:57.25 | ZealotOnAStick | What is this about people fucking with Thrae and TinyTip and deletion and wha? |
| 03:59.28 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40450 10Assessment/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:59.28 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 03:59.28 | CIA-22 | - Some changes in preparation for implementing the next features.. |
| 03:59.28 | CIA-22 | - TPS removed. Added TPS display to the default Threat module. |
| 04:01.24 | kaiden | is 2.1.2 releasing tomorrow? if not gonna roll PitBull back as this group leader change crash crap is driving me bonkers |
| 04:01.52 | Kaydeethree | on the 19th |
| 04:01.59 | Peoii | If by tomorrow you mean tuesday, yes. |
| 04:02.17 | kaiden | sorry, i usually work mondays and i'm not working tomorrow so brain said tomorrow was tuesday |
| 04:02.20 | kaiden | so yes :P i mean 19th |
| 04:02.21 | kaiden | hehe |
| 04:05.44 | Peoii | kaiden: I just went ahead and did a rollback, it was drivin me nuts ;) |
| 04:05.57 | kaiden | yeah i just did that |
| 04:06.08 | Peoii | battlegrounds were makin me sick without doing that. |
| 04:06.11 | kaiden | i'm just an addon updater addict so i'll probably overwrite it between now and then |
| 04:06.43 | Peoii | oh I am too, I just took it outta my update manually (ie: mark all -> uncheck pitbull -> update marked addons) |
| 04:09.10 | ulic | Roartindon: I didn't check today's logs, possible to do Threat as percentages? |
| 04:09.31 | Roartindon | ulic: Has been possible ever since first threat commit with the tag threat/maximumthreat*100 |
| 04:10.06 | Roartindon | err.. maxthreat, not maximumthreat |
| 04:10.21 | Roartindon | or if you're interested in max threat on target, maxtargetthreat |
| 04:14.57 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian 07XLoot1.0 * r40451 10XLoot/ (18 files in 3 dirs): XLoot: Restructured files. Ported fixes in 0.9 forward. Renamed to XLoot1.0 for easier side-by-side testing, temporarily. |
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| 04:16.21 | ulic | cool, I tried looking through some of the tags to do it, just didn't find it before I started an instance. |
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| 04:16.43 | ZOAS_ | Wow. Dear god the IRC module in Trillian bites. |
| 04:17.05 | sdouble | True story. |
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| 04:17.49 | ulic | so [threat/maxthreat*100:percent] should get me what I'm looking for, yea? |
| 04:18.12 | Roartindon | ulic: yep |
| 04:18.15 | Roartindon | I think :) |
| 04:18.58 | ulic | Tag not closed - missing ] near "perc..." (55) |
| 04:19.07 | ulic | but I have it just like above |
| 04:19.34 | Roartindon | Try [(threat/maxthreat*100):percent] |
| 04:19.40 | Roartindon | The order of precedence is screwing me here |
| 04:19.45 | Roartindon | I have : at a higher level than operators |
| 04:20.04 | ulic | no errors |
| 04:20.11 | ulic | we'll wait for me to get some threat |
| 04:20.12 | ulic | thanks |
| 04:20.12 | Antiarc | Mag down, guild first :D |
| 04:20.21 | sdouble | /cheer |
| 04:20.37 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40452 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: TagCompiler-1.0: Percent tag now forces it to be an integer, instead of a full decimal points |
| 04:20.38 | Roartindon | ulic: Might want to grab the TagCompiler-1.0 commit above too. |
| 04:20.49 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Grats :) |
| 04:21.06 | Roartindon | Antiarc: The final few percent of that fight always makes me uneasy |
| 04:21.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: gratz. |
| 04:21.16 | ZealotOnAStick | finally got people who can click? |
| 04:21.29 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Our problem was phase 1 interrupts |
| 04:21.40 | Antiarc | A DC boned us in phase 2 last go, and we just sorta breezed through him this go |
| 04:21.44 | ZealotOnAStick | ehh, yah, lack of those can sorta bite. |
| 04:21.55 | ulic | I'll live for now, starting Mech, thanks for letting me know though, I'm liking it pretty well so far. |
| 04:21.57 | ZealotOnAStick | more damage, more heals, more abyssals. |
| 04:22.08 | Roartindon | We were so lucky this weekend |
| 04:22.17 | Roartindon | 3 clickers DCed on mag |
| 04:22.21 | Roartindon | and somehow we still made it through |
| 04:22.34 | Roartindon | we're not on vent either |
| 04:22.39 | Roartindon | so no voice comm from people that were DCed |
| 04:22.49 | ZealotOnAStick | We set up Click group 1 + Click group 2 + Backup click group, 3 sets of 5 people. |
| 04:23.00 | Antiarc | So I did the entire fight with my jumper cables equipped |
| 04:23.03 | Antiarc | And scored #2 in DPS |
| 04:23.09 | ZealotOnAStick | the no voice comm thing, ick. |
| 04:23.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: your rogue? |
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| 04:23.24 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 04:23.53 | Roartindon | Our rogues own mag's dps meters |
| 04:24.01 | Roartindon | But they're also the ones not assigned to click |
| 04:24.01 | Antiarc | We have a warrior who is just nuts |
| 04:24.12 | Antiarc | Geared to the teeth and one of the best damn players I've ever seen |
| 04:24.20 | Roartindon | I get our tanks to click either side of mag, and ranged dps to click those further away |
| 04:24.26 | xystic | warriors tend to be geared well |
| 04:24.40 | xystic | well, the protection-spec one's at least |
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| 04:25.20 | Antiarc | Our is MS for arena, but he's normally fury. I don't know how he does it. |
| 04:25.37 | Roartindon | Our dps warriors problems are all threat related |
| 04:25.46 | Roartindon | No way to wipe his threat.. so on void reaver, he's sitting low on the dps |
| 04:26.01 | ZealotOnAStick | We had issues with our Enhance shammy. |
| 04:26.18 | ZealotOnAStick | just kept dying all the tme because of no way to really mitigate threat. |
| 04:26.25 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Ankh! :P |
| 04:26.38 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 04:26.42 | Antiarc | We're locked into Mag's |
| 04:26.44 | Antiarc | The gate won't open |
| 04:26.47 | ZealotOnAStick | once every 40 minutes isn't an acceptable threat dump. |
| 04:26.56 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Agreed |
| 04:26.59 | ZealotOnAStick | what drops you get? |
| 04:27.01 | Antiarc | Not every class should have a threat dump, IMO |
| 04:27.05 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: enhance shammys need a talent to drop aggro, or reduce it |
| 04:27.05 | Antiarc | 2x hero, shield, plate helm |
| 04:27.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Bleh. |
| 04:27.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay for your tanks, good for your guild progression. |
| 04:27.23 | ZealotOnAStick | but bleh. |
| 04:27.32 | ZealotOnAStick | shammy shield? |
| 04:27.42 | Antiarc | Aegis something, I didn't really pay attention |
| 04:27.46 | Antiarc | Hero is mage/hunter/lock |
| 04:28.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh. |
| 04:28.10 | ZealotOnAStick | *shrugs* |
| 04:28.20 | Antiarc | The only interest I take in shields is disenchanting them |
| 04:28.37 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40453 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: BlackTemple: add Illidari Council mod |
| 04:28.38 | ZealotOnAStick | pretty much the same here, other than wanting our tanks to have good ones. |
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| 04:31.24 | Antiarc | So we have this couple that plays WoW |
| 04:31.29 | Antiarc | And they both bid max on Mag's head |
| 04:31.33 | Antiarc | Which happens to be 69 points |
| 04:31.43 | Antiarc | So apparently, they're both going to 69 and then one of them gets head. |
| 04:32.34 | Keias | And then one Mag's head? |
| 04:32.42 | Antiarc | and I'm off to watch Casino Royale with my wife |
| 04:32.46 | Antiarc | So have a good evenin', folks |
| 04:33.47 | Keias | great movie |
| 04:33.48 | Keias | see ya |
| 04:34.18 | Wobwork | ZealotOnAStick: Thrae unAce'd TinyTip |
| 04:34.20 | Wobwork | basically |
| 04:34.29 | Wobwork | but the final version he'd left on the svn was broken |
| 04:34.31 | Xuerian | Cya, Antiarc :P |
| 04:34.34 | Wobwork | so he had to revert it |
| 04:34.46 | Wobwork | he has a googlecode svn now that he updates to |
| 04:37.51 | Arrowmaster | when was tinytip ever aced? |
| 04:39.03 | Xuerian | For a long while...? |
| 04:40.39 | Codayus | Was tinytip ever not ace? I thought it was written from scratch using ace? |
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| 04:42.56 | Arrowmaster | i thought it didnt use ace at all except maybe for some hooking in the optional stuff |
| 04:43.20 | Arrowmaster | might have used dewdrop for the options |
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| 05:02.15 | Xuerian | Kaelten: Buried posts on curse threads need the ability to be un-buried, to be fair >.o |
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| 05:21.25 | Kaelten | ya would be good |
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| 05:36.46 | Funkeh` | later folks |
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| 05:53.37 | Galka | cya |
| 05:53.42 | Galka | whoa |
| 05:53.47 | Galka | A bit late eh >.> |
| 05:53.52 | Gngsk | bye |
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| 06:30.50 | ZealotOnAStick | omfg. |
| 06:31.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I should so have not waited until now to watch the latest Doctor Who. |
| 06:32.33 | Peoii | You poor poor soul. |
| 06:32.42 | Peoii | I've got every single episode on DVD :D |
| 06:35.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, unless you've got next week's already, pah! |
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| 06:42.42 | theoddone33 | so frustrated |
| 06:42.50 | theoddone33 | even if I juke a counterspell I can't kill mages on my pally :( |
| 06:43.05 | theoddone33 | which I just did, like ap ro |
| 06:43.09 | theoddone33 | only to get 2-shot |
| 06:43.26 | Peoii | what's your spec? |
| 06:43.33 | theoddone33 | holy at the moment |
| 06:43.39 | Peoii | just heal thru their mana bar |
| 06:43.44 | Peoii | then beat em down :P |
| 06:44.04 | Peoii | That's about the only way I get beaten by a holy pally, are the ones smart enough to do that. |
| 06:44.21 | theoddone33 | the first time I got pyro'd, forgot about counterspell like a noob and just died |
| 06:44.37 | theoddone33 | second time I got pyro'd, juked a counterspell, then got destroyed while my heal was casting |
| 06:44.49 | theoddone33 | very sad |
| 06:45.02 | theoddone33 | then again I'm playing in 60-69, the mage could be 5 levels above me |
| 06:45.50 | Peoii | ahh yea |
| 06:45.54 | Peoii | that's a ruff bracket. |
| 06:46.20 | Andune | not when you're 69 :) |
| 06:46.23 | Peoii | hehe |
| 06:46.26 | theoddone33 | it's all good learning |
| 06:46.31 | theoddone33 | I'll need to be good when I hit 70 |
| 06:46.34 | Peoii | we're considering doing an AV twink team at 60 |
| 06:46.40 | vrak | am i correct in assuming the old GMail addon was responsible for allowing me to alt-click items to trade them to others? |
| 06:46.41 | theoddone33 | because season 2 will just be starting |
| 06:46.51 | Peoii | literally drag them thru Naxx with our mains, and twink them out in naxx gear |
| 06:47.06 | Peoii | Yea |
| 06:47.14 | Peoii | vrak: Get altclicktoadditem |
| 06:47.29 | vrak | Peoii: thanks |
| 06:47.46 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 06:47.49 | theoddone33 | that'd be pretty cool |
| 06:47.57 | theoddone33 | (twink AV team) |
| 06:48.02 | Peoii | Yea |
| 06:48.05 | vrak | trading a ton of stuff was so damn much easier with that functionality |
| 06:48.08 | theoddone33 | make sure they all kill azzurius or whoever for the trinket |
| 06:48.15 | Peoii | Naxx has gear that's quite on par at times with stuff at 70, or atleast close. |
| 06:48.26 | Peoii | So you can destroy in there ;) |
| 06:48.47 | phyber | vrak: BuilkMail2 |
| 06:48.47 | Peoii | And it's laughably fun to redo naxx too |
| 06:49.01 | phyber | BulkMail2, I mean. |
| 06:49.31 | Peoii | phyber: BulkMail2 only handles altclicking when you're at the mailbox, AltClickToAddItem allows it for trades as well. I won't play my mage without that functionality, dishing out water SUCKS :P |
| 06:49.49 | phyber | ah. |
| 06:50.01 | phyber | I'd say that GMail is bloated then! mail!=trade ;) |
| 06:50.14 | vrak | aye |
| 06:50.29 | vrak | it's still a handy function |
| 06:50.47 | phyber | true, it sounds useful. |
| 06:51.06 | Peoii | I <3 Gas Clouds in Zangermarsh. That is all. |
| 06:51.27 | vrak | try dumping the contents of 3-4 18 slotters over to another char, manually dragging every damn item from the inv to the trade fram |
| 06:51.48 | vrak | *frame |
| 06:51.48 | vrak | you will go bonkers |
| 06:52.03 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40456 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: |
| 06:52.03 | CIA-22 | Aloft: |
| 06:52.03 | CIA-22 | - zhTW localization updated |
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| 06:56.40 | theoddone33 | hunter traps also own me as a non-rogue |
| 06:57.42 | theoddone33 | I need to be better with sacrafice |
| 06:58.02 | theoddone33 | and spelling |
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| 07:01.55 | Toyd | zac my baby |
| 07:02.15 | Toyd | do you love me ooooooooooh zac you drive me crazy |
| 07:02.16 | zac | you're going to try and troll me here too? |
| 07:02.25 | Toyd | i invited you to macosx-gay |
| 07:02.28 | Toyd | troll ? |
| 07:02.51 | Toyd | i am affiliated with this project here |
| 07:03.45 | Toyd | i am the Ramanujan of coding |
| 07:05.33 | Toyd | i am the dungeon keeper |
| 07:05.44 | Toyd | hi guys i am Toyd nice to meet you all |
| 07:06.05 | Toyd | zac is a powerhungry admin of some quacker donald duck imitation |
| 07:06.27 | Toyd | but hey we cant be all as great as ourselves now can we |
| 07:06.39 | Toyd | thanks for the invite zac |
| 07:06.55 | Peoii | Are you always this obnxious? or do you just do it when you want attention? |
| 07:07.13 | Toyd | sorry |
| 07:07.52 | Toyd | done :) |
| 07:08.05 | Peoii | Thank god for ignore features. |
| 07:08.07 | Toyd | no Peoii i was wrong to type all that i apologize |
| 07:08.10 | theoddone33 | I want attention :( |
| 07:08.13 | Toyd | LOL |
| 07:08.23 | Toyd | hi theoddone33 FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:08.24 | Toyd | :D |
| 07:08.51 | Toyd | theoddone33, isnt zac the greatest? |
| 07:09.00 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40457 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: |
| 07:09.00 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 07:09.00 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 07:09.10 | Toyd | woooohoooo |
| 07:09.15 | Elkano | ^do we have someone from the wowhead staff in here? |
| 07:09.28 | Toyd | Elkano, hi |
| 07:09.50 | Toyd | wow works on a mac now |
| 07:09.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Grrr. Wish I had Ops right now. |
| 07:09.59 | Toyd | although games are for pc |
| 07:10.06 | Toyd | but apple had to copy that also |
| 07:10.13 | zac | ZealotOnAStick: yeah. banned him elsewhere - it's a good feeling. |
| 07:10.16 | Peoii | ZealotOnAStick: So do I... So do I... |
| 07:10.21 | Toyd | zac :D |
| 07:10.22 | Loki|muh | ZealotOnAStick: lean back and enjoy :) |
| 07:11.04 | Toyd | wth i am getting my first mac |
| 07:11.16 | Toyd | and you guys treat me like this |
| 07:11.24 | Toyd | just because of zac? |
| 07:11.38 | Toyd | zac makes a IM app big deal |
| 07:11.52 | Toyd | and they copyright infringe donald duck |
| 07:11.54 | Punkie` | I don't get the humor |
| 07:12.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I ignored him after about a screenfull. |
| 07:13.08 | Toyd | zac why do you ban all my good proxies :( |
| 07:13.26 | Toyd | its like so hard to come back now |
| 07:13.35 | Toyd | lol |
| 07:14.00 | Toyd | i am the new kid in town |
| 07:14.52 | Toyd | you guys are all invited to ##macosx-gay |
| 07:15.02 | Toyd | the reason why zac hates me and the adium people is because i am gay |
| 07:15.25 | Toyd | to see this kind of persecution this day and age saddens me tremendously |
| 07:16.46 | Toyd | i will have to tell Blizzard about what you guys do here cheating isnt allowed |
| 07:17.40 | Toyd | and WOW the heart and soul lives inside of windows |
| 07:18.02 | Toyd | you macheads trying to steal all good things and keep your elite hood well you canbt |
| 07:18.05 | Toyd | cant* |
| 07:18.13 | Toyd | it doesnt work that way |
| 07:18.15 | Toyd | zac |
| 07:18.22 | Toyd | you were right i will report this |
| 07:19.06 | Toyd | trolls dont exist |
| 07:19.14 | Toyd | and i am not a troll |
| 07:19.21 | Toyd | i am a dark evil magician okay |
| 07:19.26 | Toyd | not a freaking troll |
| 07:19.39 | Toyd | see i dont need feeding to continue |
| 07:19.49 | Toyd | because i know what you all think |
| 07:19.57 | Toyd | thats part of being a dark magician |
| 07:19.59 | Elkano | Loki|muh, I wonder if it's worse than pot ;) |
| 07:20.06 | Neebler | http://www.baraskit.se/random/archive/24/bicycle_lift2.html |
| 07:20.08 | Neebler | random amusing link |
| 07:20.30 | Toyd | wow my lucky day admins are sleeping |
| 07:20.32 | Elkano | btw, Loki|muh, will you show up at BayGW? |
| 07:20.33 | Toyd | zac, |
| 07:20.37 | Toyd | i love you :) |
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| 07:22.31 | Peoii | okay, Ogri'la faction is obnxious |
| 07:22.56 | Toyd | Peoii, all humans are obnoxious |
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| 07:24.04 | Toyd | We withhold non-human animals the very basic rights, simply because they don’t resemble humans. Humans are speciest! |
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| 07:24.32 | Toyd | Humans are callous, brutal and cold-blooded towards non-human animals; humans have no consideration for the feelings and suffering which they selfishly inflict on animals. When a human kills another human they are the disgrace of the country, the headlines in the news, and all they did was kill one human, one insignificant human life. Yet, no one seems to care that everyday billions upon billions of innocent animals are being sickeningly, nauseati |
| 07:24.33 | Toyd | ngly, hideously, vilely, unanaesthetically murdered for meat. |
| 07:25.11 | Toyd | If you think the process of that cute cow in the field to the steak on your plate is all candy and roses, then here is an extract from a very informative article on the way in which an animal is killed to become meat, (something that humans have no nutritional requirement for!). |
| 07:26.01 | Toyd | “Death came in the form of a pneumatic nail gun that was placed against their heads and fired. The gun is designed so that the nail never completely leaves the gun, but simply is blown into the animal's head and then pulled out by the butcher as the animal collapses. Three of the four times I saw it used, it did the job on the first try, but one cow struggled a good deal after collapsing. After the animal has collapsed (but still conscious), the |
| 07:26.01 | Toyd | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.02 | Toyd | conds, after which the only task left to the man at the first station is to skin and remove the animal's head. |
| 07:26.18 | Toyd | At the second station in the kill shed, the headless animal is dropped to the floor. The body is propped up on the back and relieved of hooves and, if female, milk sack and udders. At this time, any urine and faeces that didn't drain from the body during the first few seconds of death now pour freely onto the floor. The body is then slit down the middle, and the hide is peeled partially away. A yoke is then hooked to the stumps of the hind legs, t |
| 07:26.19 | Toyd | he body is lifted upwards, and the rest of the hide is pulled past a roller secured to the floor and peeled off. The animal's body is now at the third station of the kill shed where it is gutted and then sawed in half -- becoming two "sides of beef". |
| 07:26.50 | CIA-22 | 03elkano * r40458 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (FuBar_FactionsFu.lua Locales/FuBar_FactionsFu.enUS.lua): FuBar_FactionsFu: ctrl-click will toggle inactive state of a faction |
| 07:27.22 | Toyd | Peoii, i think you are obnoxious meat eater speciest ! |
| 07:28.19 | Toyd | All the sources show, humans are heartless and speciest. The way in which humans treat non-human animals needs drastic changing; we should not be exploiting them for any reason at all. There are not here to serve us, they are here for there own purposes. One final question for you to consider; “If possessing a higher degree of intelligence does not entitle one human to use another for his own ends, how can it entitle humans to exploit non-humans |
| 07:28.19 | Toyd | ?” |
| 07:28.54 | Peoii | 21 Exalted Factions and Blizzard still won't give me a "Loser" tag infront of my name... must try for 22... |
| 07:28.57 | Toyd | and see this is why i am called a troll because i care about animal rights |
| 07:29.00 | Toyd | and justice |
| 07:29.10 | Toyd | the world today saddens me tremendously |
| 07:29.16 | Arrowmaster | oh shut up already |
| 07:29.20 | Elkano | Peoii, iirc there's only the one for the 3 old bg factions |
| 07:29.45 | Peoii | Elkano: Oh, I know ;) I'm just having fun with it. It's what I do for cash/etc. |
| 07:29.46 | Arrowmaster | theres a scarab lord title too |
| 07:29.55 | Peoii | But that's not faction based Arrow ;) |
| 07:30.02 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40459 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: Remember the last template edited. |
| 07:30.03 | Arrowmaster | true |
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| 07:37.56 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r40460 10ArkInventory/Locale/esES.lua: |
| 07:37.56 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 07:37.56 | CIA-22 | - spanish translation fix |
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| 07:41.34 | binder | leotheras vs. omen |
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| 07:43.48 | Toyd | The final stop on my tour was the sausage and hot dog production facilities. It is often said that if you could see what goes into a hot dog, you'd never eat one eat one again. Well that adage applies tenfold to the production of sausage. The most violently nauseating smell that I have ever experienced was the odour wafting up from the sausage meat boiling vats.” |
| 07:44.22 | Toyd | Now if you can read that and still eat meat, then that proves the point. Humans are heartless! The very fact that the person dismembering the cow can slit it’s throat while the animal is still alive, without feeling even a trace of guilt or sorrow, shows that person to be heartless. Humans think that animals are on the earth to be products of human greed and gluttony. We cram them into boxes and cages, let them lie in their own waste, crippled, |
| 07:44.22 | Toyd | swollen, deformed; and shovel them, drag them, chain them, like their worthless pieces of junk with no individual non-tradable value or interests. |
| 07:44.22 | Toyd | An interesting issue raised in the novel, ‘Black Beauty’, is that of working animals. Black Beauty is a pre-20th century novel, about the life of one horse. The life of this horse was written to show the inhumane way in which horses were being treated. They were treated like slaves. Their attitude towards their horses is as if the horses have no interest of their own, they only live to work for humans. Take a look at this novel extract: |
| 07:45.06 | Toyd | “Then there is the steam-engine style of driving; these drivers were mostly people from town, who never had a horse of their own, and generally travelled by rail. They always seemed to think that a horse was something like a steam engine, only smaller. At any rate, they think that if only they pay for it, a horse is bound to go just as far, and just as fast, and with just as heavy a load as they please. And be the roads heavy and muddy, or dry a |
| 07:45.07 | Toyd | nd good; be they stony or smooth, up-hill or downhill, it is all the same-on, on, one must go at the same pace, with no relief and no consideration. These people never think of getting out to walk up a step hill. Oh, no, they have paid to ride, and ride they will! The horse? Oh, he’s used to it! What were horses made for, if not to drag people up-hill? Walk! A good joke indeed! And so the whip is plied and the rein is chucked, and often a rough |
| 07:45.07 | Toyd | scolding voice cries out, ‘Go along, you lazy beast!’ And then another slash of the whip, when all the time we were doing our very best to get along, uncomplaining and obedient, though often sorely harassed and downhearted.” – page 104, chapter 29 (cockneys), Black Beauty. |
| 07:45.24 | Fin | jesus fucking christ man what the hell are you pasting |
| 07:45.24 | Aenslaed | you know, a link to the source is better than spamming the irc channel |
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| 07:45.42 | Fin | are you some kind of veggie evangelist? |
| 07:45.43 | Toyd | This shows the way in which humans think of animals. It shows that humans believe animals to be equipment, machines that they can work into the ground, after all, they have no non-tradable properties, they are only here to serve us, if they weren’t used, then what would be the use of them! What babble, non-human animals exist in the same way we do, for their own interests, they are of the same value as us, they are not our “equipment”. |
| 07:45.45 | Toyd | In the bible, it says; |
| 07:45.45 | Toyd | “Then God said let us make man in our image … and let him have dominion over fish of the sea and the birds of the air, and over the cattle … and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth…” – Genesis 1:28, The Bible |
| 07:45.45 | Peoii | Oh Toyd? Just ignore him. He's been spamming for about an hour. |
| 07:46.03 | Fin | oh, so he has |
| 07:46.08 | Fin | thanks |
| 07:46.35 | Toyd | The film ‘Andre’ shows us that humans can have wonderful harmonious relationships with non-human animals, like the love and respect that a dog and a human can have when they both learn to respect each other. But more often than not, the relationship between animals is far from harmonious. I’m talking about abused companion animals. No you do NOT own them, you are just simply their caretaker. When people buy pets on impulse, one day they want |
| 07:46.36 | Toyd | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.07 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@*.netvigator.com] by SunTiger |
| 07:47.07 | *** kick/#wowace [Toyd!n=MoonWolf@a82-92-149-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] by SunTiger (SunTiger) |
| 07:47.27 | Peoii | Much love SunTiger. |
| 07:47.32 | SunTiger | np |
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| 07:49.00 | Fin | aw, thanks SunTiger |
| 07:49.13 | Fin | what a cock |
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| 07:54.15 | Adirell1 | hi there |
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| 08:00.48 | Elkano | hmm "Scale of the Sands"... where is that faction? |
| 08:00.56 | Peoii | Hyjal |
| 08:01.03 | Elkano | ah |
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| 08:05.19 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40461 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (data.lua datacompressed.lua): |
| 08:05.19 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 08:05.19 | CIA-22 | -- 32503 Yazzil's Poison Mutton |
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| 08:05.58 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40462 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0-Consumable/PeriodicTable-3.0-Consumable.lua: |
| 08:05.58 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 08:05.58 | CIA-22 | -- 32503 Yazzil's Poison Mutton |
| 08:06.39 | mitch0 | could someone paste in the link for the arena2 weapon stats? |
| 08:06.50 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40463 10Talented/tips.lua: Talented: show information for all "level" of talents in tooltips if the alt key is pressed. |
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| 08:14.14 | Punkie` | mitch0: Make a bookmark of http://www.mmo-champion.com |
| 08:14.34 | Bibi`ouF | Yeah, do this. |
| 08:15.00 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=310.0 |
| 08:15.07 | mitch0 | punkie: eh, thanks. tried mmochamions.com and it was a gold-ad site... |
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| 08:15.36 | mitch0 | any Threat-1.0 devs around? |
| 08:15.55 | Punkie` | Bibi`ouF: Skinner is ugly :( |
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| 08:16.41 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r40464 10xchar/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:16.41 | CIA-22 | xchar: |
| 08:16.41 | CIA-22 | - added tradeskill profiling |
| 08:16.41 | CIA-22 | - renamed to xchar dev for clarification |
| 08:16.41 | CIA-22 | - added dev-option to disable currently unimplemented features on the site (on by default) |
| 08:17.44 | Bibi`ouF | Punkie` : someone asked for it ! |
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| 08:19.33 | Punkie` | Need Wednesday :( |
| 08:20.57 | Elkano | why? will there be a patch? |
| 08:21.25 | nekoh_ | pvp patch, arena season 2 |
| 08:21.33 | Elkano | is that 2.1.2? |
| 08:21.38 | nekoh_ | yea |
| 08:21.43 | Elkano | ah, k |
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| 08:22.54 | Punkie` | I should have around 3.9k points :) |
| 08:28.12 | Health | I have 5k. |
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| 08:29.15 | abbat_w | morning guys |
| 08:30.39 | kebinusan | Arenas are fun till you get raped 10x in a row by the same melee team |
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| 08:31.33 | nadas | ah yes, new arena rewards.. if only i could decide which 2 weapons to buy.. =/ |
| 08:31.48 | Lywellyn | WSG is fun till you get a twink gnome mage holding your flag for 45 minutes. |
| 08:31.50 | kebinusan | least the new caster weapon looks worthwhile |
| 08:32.07 | Punkie` | I only play in 2v2 because when I make a 5v5 it just gets wasted as people play 1 night and never play again :( |
| 08:32.14 | kebinusan | WSG should have a time limit or something |
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| 08:32.25 | abbat_w | no |
| 08:32.33 | Punkie` | EotS needs to have it's points doubled or something :p |
| 08:32.39 | Punkie` | it's sooooo looonnngggg |
| 08:32.49 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:32.56 | abbat_w | if no one want to play at wsg and just farm hk at middle - holding flag is useless |
| 08:32.57 | mitch0 | [ammo]: yo |
| 08:32.59 | Punkie` | hey noob |
| 08:33.16 | abbat_w | And 2vs2 arenas is pain ;) |
| 08:33.26 | mitch0 | ammo: have you checked the violation forums lately? I think I found the problem with the water elemental stuff, posted a patch |
| 08:33.27 | Punkie` | i like it |
| 08:33.34 | abbat_w | Lock'o'priest and pala-rogues |
| 08:33.37 | [Ammo] | oh, I haven't |
| 08:33.39 | mitch0 | ammo: I tested it as far as I could, and it seems to work |
| 08:33.42 | [Ammo] | I've been away for 2 days |
| 08:33.46 | Punkie` | people said that my team would fail |
| 08:33.48 | abbat_w | These guys start at 1800+ rating till 2k+ =) |
| 08:33.56 | Punkie` | but it has 1913 points which is nice :D |
| 08:33.59 | [Ammo] | I'll check it out |
| 08:34.11 | mitch0 | ammo: basically, I just moved the IsAnonPetDmg() check a bit further up within the function |
| 08:34.13 | abbat_w | btw |
| 08:34.18 | Punkie` | rogue and shaman :) |
| 08:34.23 | mitch0 | 'cos it was never reached due to some earlier check failing |
| 08:34.46 | abbat_w | Guys, someone already make layouts for PitBull? |
| 08:35.42 | mitch0 | I've teamed up with another mage afterwards and his damage didn't show up as mine with the patched version, and my WE showed up as mine, so it seems good at least, but I'm not really familiar with the inner workings of violation to be 100% sure |
| 08:36.41 | [Ammo] | mitch0: I see |
| 08:37.01 | [Ammo] | has my work on saturday fixed the sync issues btw? |
| 08:37.09 | [Ammo] | as in do other vio users show up yet in eachothers vio |
| 08:37.21 | mitch0 | I haven't tested that |
| 08:37.38 | [Ammo] | funkeh might be able to answer that one |
| 08:37.42 | mitch0 | I don't meet many peeps using violation |
| 08:39.00 | mitch0 | ammo: just a thought: how hard would it be if IsAnonPetDamage() would rename source to "<player>'s Pet" instead of <player> so it would gather pet data separately? |
| 08:39.29 | [Ammo] | first up I need to clean up a total mess in the code |
| 08:39.33 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 08:39.36 | [Ammo] | after that pet damage broadcasting |
| 08:39.46 | [Ammo] | the current userlevel implementation is a piece of shit |
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| 08:40.33 | mitch0 | ammo: do you also work on threat-1.0 btw? |
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| 08:42.20 | SunTiger | what is the most up to date notepad/ ingame editor addon that allow code execution ? |
| 08:43.17 | [dRaCo] | ammo, whatcha think about a filter to drop all values below 5% when reporting? |
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| 08:46.30 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40465 10Talented_Data/scripts/diff.lua: Talented_Data: credits and simple description for the lcs algorithm. |
| 08:47.04 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40466 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: bugfix |
| 08:47.13 | [Ammo] | [dRaCo]: all in due time |
| 08:47.36 | [Ammo] | grr funkeh moved to embeds.xml I hate that format |
| 08:47.37 | [Ammo] | grr |
| 08:47.50 | [dRaCo] | sure, just wanted to suggest it |
| 08:48.46 | [dRaCo] | thought it'd be useful not to see the healing of a lock using drain life e.g. |
| 08:49.08 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40467 10Violation/Damage/ (DPS.lua Damage.lua): Violation: earlier check for anonymous pet events, patch by Mitch0 blame him if it breaks :) |
| 08:49.17 | [Ammo] | my healing is usually above 5% anyway |
| 08:49.18 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40468 10ArkInventory/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:49.18 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:49.18 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-18-18-45 |
| 08:49.22 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 08:49.24 | [dRaCo] | as a lock? |
| 08:49.26 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:49.31 | [Ammo] | affliction ftw |
| 08:49.35 | [dRaCo] | hrhr |
| 08:49.42 | [dRaCo] | make the filter adjustable, then ;) |
| 08:49.43 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:49.48 | mitch0 | ammo: pff |
| 08:49.53 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 08:49.57 | [Ammo] | hey I applied your patch |
| 08:50.00 | [Ammo] | it looked sane |
| 08:51.05 | mitch0 | well, clean up the code so you can move on to feature requests, like tracking anon pet damage separately and last combat / total running reports :) |
| 08:52.08 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:52.43 | [dRaCo] | my ankhtimerfu still doesn't work properly... I already deleted the SV, but it just doesn't react to any changes to my ankh count |
| 08:53.06 | [dRaCo] | any ideas? |
| 08:55.57 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r40469 10TickTo/core.lua: TickTo: Removed unnecessary line |
| 08:55.59 | Adirell1 | mitch0 tracking anon pet damage separately will be a pain in the a* |
| 08:56.16 | mitch0 | why? |
| 08:57.06 | mitch0 | right now in the anon case the source is renamed to <player> |
| 08:57.11 | Adirell1 | I requires handling "pseudopets" (like mitch0's water elemental), e.g. things that can't be linked with party units |
| 08:57.31 | mitch0 | all that should be done is rename it to "<player>'s pet" and do some bookkeeping to allow gathering data for that source, too |
| 08:58.07 | mitch0 | at least that was my first impression checking the code |
| 08:58.18 | Adirell1 | there's some housekeeping that prevents crappy data to get in the table |
| 08:58.31 | Adirell1 | and anything that doesn't look like being in party is kept away |
| 08:58.34 | mitch0 | just allow for <player>'s Pet in that table that is populated for party members |
| 08:58.55 | Adirell1 | moreover, actually only player data are broacaster |
| 08:58.58 | Adirell1 | s/ter/ted/ |
| 08:59.27 | Adirell1 | handling this correctly requires to rewrite the broadcasting code to include pet data |
| 08:59.30 | mitch0 | yeah, but there's a todo to broadcast pet data as well ;) |
| 09:00.29 | Adirell1 | yep, it will eventually get it, I'm just pointing out it isn't easy |
| 09:01.41 | mitch0 | well, I don't know about the broadcast part, but the "gathering" part looks pretty straightforward |
| 09:04.34 | [Ammo] | it won't be a pain in the ass, but it is a pain in the ass with the current code |
| 09:06.44 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r40470 10TickTo/libs/: TickTo: Fixing Externals |
| 09:07.36 | Punkie` | rewrite! |
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| 09:09.34 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40471 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 09:09.34 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:09.34 | CIA-22 | - BB deDE Update |
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| 09:10.28 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40472 10TinyTip/TinyTipLocale_deDE.lua: TinyTip: Small Update and Typo Fix |
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| 09:11.42 | Punkie` | Haha, some gold website has added themselves to curses main news :p |
| 09:12.12 | SunTiger | they REALLY should implement an approval system. |
| 09:12.36 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:13.05 | Punkie` | oh? can anyone just add some news? |
| 09:13.51 | mitch0 | that reminds me, I should check out the KTM saga :) |
| 09:13.58 | Wobin | It's finally over =P |
| 09:13.58 | SunTiger | ah yep |
| 09:14.14 | Wobin | Kenco made a nice polite post thanking someone for their bug report =P |
| 09:14.23 | mitch0 | oh :( |
| 09:14.35 | Wobin | thank god =P |
| 09:14.36 | SunTiger | i could go in there now and write an article about how big an asshole net is, that kenco should eat cow dung and that we should all worship the gods of microsoft, satan and IGE. |
| 09:14.59 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 09:15.04 | SunTiger | It would be deleted pretty damn fast |
| 09:15.07 | SunTiger | but i COULD |
| 09:15.12 | Punkie` | That's insane :P |
| 09:15.26 | SunTiger | no, its internet 2.0 |
| 09:15.28 | ckknight_ | hey all |
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| 09:15.37 | ckknight_ | web 2.0 is a fad |
| 09:15.44 | Punkie` | The gold one has been there for 10 mins :p |
| 09:15.53 | mitch0 | ckk: you don't say? |
| 09:16.16 | Wobin | no really? |
| 09:16.29 | ckknight | eventually the dust will settle and all |
| 09:16.33 | SunTiger | web 2.0 is simply an idea that peole keep spreading |
| 09:16.34 | ckknight | and we'll have "learned" something |
| 09:16.35 | SunTiger | and it should die. |
| 09:17.00 | ckknight | but really, the biggest winners of the whole web 2.0 thing are going to be those who are already in power |
| 09:17.11 | SunTiger | its the idea that we should have tagged user sumbitted content and that we shoul all make our website filled to the brim with ajax xml and other such nonesense |
| 09:17.34 | ckknight | ugh |
| 09:17.55 | Punkie` | ajax is a monster if used too much |
| 09:18.00 | Punkie` | *hints at armory* |
| 09:18.00 | SunTiger | sure, user submitted content is nice, where aplicable |
| 09:18.05 | SunTiger | ajax has it uses |
| 09:18.10 | SunTiger | so does xml websites |
| 09:18.13 | SunTiger | tagging can be awesome |
| 09:18.16 | ckknight | right |
| 09:18.24 | ckknight | but not fucking everywhere. |
| 09:18.26 | SunTiger | but its not something that when you all combine it it magically makes a good website |
| 09:18.59 | Punkie` | of course |
| 09:19.11 | yacoob | Punkie`, every thing abused is too much :D |
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| 09:21.01 | Punkie` | most websites have just combined them into a slow, churning mutants :p |
| 09:21.28 | Wobin | armoury point in case =P |
| 09:24.20 | Daemona | hehe, http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/articles/details/2165/ another one |
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| 09:29.54 | grzesieq | great. updated the system and valgrind produces huge amounts of crap from /lib/ld-2.6.so |
| 09:30.10 | sbu | morning |
| 09:30.30 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40473 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Forcefully kill Swatter again, since installing it is not a conscious choice. |
| 09:31.57 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40474 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix. |
| 09:35.28 | mitch0 | rabbit: don't you think you need some parenthesis there? |
| 09:35.46 | mitch0 | or isn't "and" higher prec then "or" in lua? |
| 09:36.11 | mitch0 | I mean, this line: if unit.unitid and unit.class == "WARLOCK" or unit.class == "HUN |
| 09:36.13 | mitch0 | TER" then |
| 09:40.40 | [Ammo] | mitch0: you're right :) |
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| 09:40.47 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40475 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: bugfix a bugfix |
| 09:41.03 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 09:42.20 | mitch0 | I should make a screenie of my addon. they sell better that way |
| 09:42.29 | vhaarr | ah, right |
| 09:42.33 | vhaarr | thanks mitch0 |
| 09:42.58 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:47.08 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40476 10ArkInventory/ArkInventory.lua: |
| 09:47.08 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:47.08 | CIA-22 | - fixed an error in the closetgnome search function |
| 09:47.25 | nekoh | is it possible to have both, a clickeventhandler ( SetScript("OnClick", onClick) ) and also a macro ( SetAttribute("*type1", "macro") ) assigned to a button ? |
| 09:47.57 | ckknight | mitch0: no, 'and' and 'or' are of equal precedence |
| 09:48.41 | ckknight | left-to-right |
| 09:49.12 | mitch0 | ckk: oh. that's strange |
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| 09:49.43 | ckknight | no it's not |
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| 09:50.02 | mitch0 | it's strange for me. happy now? |
| 09:50.35 | Laricwork | Anyone good at grid online? |
| 09:50.52 | grzesieq | that reminds me of my programming teacher at the first semester |
| 09:51.30 | grzesieq | his solution to everything was: put it in brackets |
| 09:51.53 | ckknight | yes, for specific precedence |
| 09:52.15 | grzesieq | no, i mean for _everything_ |
| 09:52.35 | grzesieq | type mismatch? put it in brackets |
| 09:52.44 | ckknight | ... |
| 09:52.53 | grzesieq | no semicolon at the end of line? put it in brackets |
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| 09:52.58 | Laricwork | I am looking for a layout for grid wich takes the tanks specified in ora/ctra and puts them into 'group1' of grid. Kinda wonder if that is doable |
| 09:53.04 | grzesieq | _everything_ |
| 09:53.22 | [Ammo] | Laricwork: I think someone already made an MT module for grid taht reads ora's mt's |
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| 09:54.30 | Laricwork | [Ammo] hmm trying to find it. It seems like everyone assumes that warriors is tanks |
| 09:55.35 | Anadale | Sorry for interrupting you guys, can anybody answer a few questions about committing/updating to/from wowace SVN repository? The question is how to deal with externals, I just can't get that passage about "no externals". How can I keep my libraries up to date? |
| 09:56.14 | Laricwork | anadale update the addons with 'no externals' as you would then use the externals as separate addons |
| 09:56.31 | Laricwork | like Ace2 is either an external or a seperate addon |
| 09:57.03 | Anadale | But should I add those svn:externals props inside my addon directory? |
| 09:57.23 | Laricwork | are you making an addon or are you using the addon? |
| 09:57.30 | Anadale | I am making an addon |
| 09:57.48 | Laricwork | then you should set the svn:externals property |
| 09:58.04 | mitch0 | ckk: erm, programming lua says: "if unit.unitid and unit.class == "WARLOCK" or unit.class == "HUN |
| 09:58.09 | Laricwork | are you using tortoise? |
| 09:58.09 | mitch0 | no, not that |
| 09:58.13 | mitch0 | this: because and has a higher precedence than or |
| 09:58.20 | Anadale | Laricwork: yes |
| 09:58.38 | Anadale | I know how to omit getting externals |
| 09:58.41 | ckknight | mitch0: it's wrong. it's left-to-right |
| 09:58.49 | Laricwork | Anadale then you can check one of the other addons 'Libs' folder with properties and see how it is solved there |
| 09:59.09 | Anadale | Laricwork: ah, ok |
| 09:59.22 | Laricwork | Anadale that kinda shows you how to do it. But you should ofcourse only do externals to the libs you need |
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| 10:00.04 | Wobin | mitch0: That would be if x and y or z then |
| 10:00.43 | Wobin | worked from left to right |
| 10:00.49 | Wobin | without parenthesis |
| 10:00.58 | Wobin | (x &&y) || z |
| 10:01.01 | Nargiddley | pil says and is higher |
| 10:01.29 | Wobin | hm |
| 10:01.31 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40477 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: |
| 10:01.31 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:01.31 | CIA-22 | - deDE Update |
| 10:01.38 | [Ammo] | it 100% works now |
| 10:01.43 | [Ammo] | and with only 2 chars more |
| 10:01.44 | [Ammo] | yay |
| 10:01.49 | Wobin | I'd have to agree. It's just instinct for me to have the 'and' take precendence |
| 10:02.01 | [Ammo] | I'd rather have the parenthesis than something that 'might' work |
| 10:02.16 | Wobin | Anyway, if there's any ambiguity, then use parenthesis =P |
| 10:02.26 | Anadale | Laricwork, thank you. Last question - is there any mailing list or something that will announce me when one of the libraries changes so I'll know when to update WITH externals? |
| 10:02.37 | Nargiddley | left to right seems wrong from my test |
| 10:02.43 | Wobin | Not using parenthesis and semicolons etc just because they're not necessary is silly |
| 10:02.48 | Nargiddley | doesnt change that case tho |
| 10:03.16 | [Ammo] | in this case parenthesis are good |
| 10:03.32 | Wobin | yeah, you should be able to tell at a glance what it's trying to achieve |
| 10:03.34 | Nargiddley | always good for clarity |
| 10:03.36 | Wobin | not have to work through test cases =P |
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| 10:09.50 | CIA-22 | 03belazor * r40478 10FuBar_TradeCDFu/FuBar_TradeCDFu.toc: |
| 10:09.50 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TradeCDFu: |
| 10:09.50 | CIA-22 | - TOC bump to 2.1 |
| 10:10.32 | Laricwork | anadale you can use cia or the google group |
| 10:10.55 | Anadale | Laricwork, ty again |
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| 10:14.03 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:14.03 | CIA-22 | - Another BT deDE Update |
| 10:15.09 | kirr | has there been some word on crashing issues with Grid? |
| 10:15.20 | Wobin | It's the same issue as all unitframes |
| 10:15.24 | kirr | especially when logging back in in combat |
| 10:15.27 | Wobin | All we can do is wait for 2.12 |
| 10:15.35 | kirr | ah ok |
| 10:15.45 | kirr | wednesday then :> |
| 10:15.54 | Wobin | Is it really patch week? =) |
| 10:16.00 | kirr | think so! |
| 10:16.02 | Wobin | I'd like to see what they've done with the voice channels |
| 10:16.14 | vhaarr | Wobin: I think it's 2.1.2 |
| 10:16.18 | vhaarr | Voice comm is 2.2. |
| 10:16.20 | vhaarr | afaik |
| 10:16.23 | Wobin | alas |
| 10:16.31 | Wobin | I was so looking forward to it =P |
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| 10:18.30 | [Ammo] | voice comm, shudder |
| 10:18.32 | ckknight | Wobin: we'll definitely be getting a PTR for 2.2, not like they'd spring voice on us without warning |
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| 10:19.13 | vhaarr | haha |
| 10:19.21 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: that will be awesome |
| 10:19.40 | [Ammo] | "Hey there! YOu have been selected out of millions of players for our one time offer! |
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| 10:20.22 | Stephmw | "hey there, you look stupid, wanna buy some gold?" |
| 10:20.30 | vhaarr | the government just imposed more strict laws for telephone sales here in norway a few days ago, the sales representative has to actually get the person to confirm that they bought something and record it |
| 10:20.50 | Tupsi | and you hope this will help? |
| 10:20.57 | vhaarr | and said, and I quote, "and if these laws are not upheld, telephone sale will be banned totally." |
| 10:20.59 | Stephmw | what form will the proof take? |
| 10:21.00 | Tupsi | this whole telephone sale shit is sooo annoying |
| 10:21.08 | vhaarr | Stephmw: A recording, I suppose. |
| 10:21.18 | [Ammo] | they have to record in .nl as well |
| 10:21.21 | [Ammo] | but not confirm |
| 10:21.27 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:21.30 | [Ammo] | just ask if you want it and if you say yes you're fucked |
| 10:21.43 | [Ammo] | but you have a 10 day period to cancel |
| 10:21.45 | [Ammo] | or something |
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| 10:22.04 | vhaarr | yeah but the problem is that you didn't know whether you actually agreed to buy it or not |
| 10:22.07 | vhaarr | while now you do |
| 10:22.09 | [Ammo] | yeah |
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| 10:23.51 | Laricwork | vhaarr I will be happy when phone sales gets banned |
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| 10:25.10 | Morghus | Laricwork: What about all the fabulous offers you'll be missing out on?! O.O |
| 10:25.24 | vhaarr | Laricwork: We've been able to opt-out from phone sales in norway for many years now, so it's not much of a problem here anyway |
| 10:25.44 | mexicaan | Hi, can anyone tell me if they know this error and know the source of it: http://www.gq-guild.com/error.txt ? |
| 10:25.57 | vhaarr | like the US have their "National Do Not Call List", or whatever it's called, just we had it like 5 years before US |
| 10:27.41 | Morghus | vhaarr: What's bothering alot of people is that even though they're signed on the "Don't call me"-lists, they're still being called every now and then by cheeky bastards. |
| 10:28.01 | vhaarr | Morghus: yeah then you just have to be clever about it |
| 10:28.05 | vhaarr | Morghus: and get them fined |
| 10:29.03 | Morghus | That's what I told them, no idea if they do though :P |
| 10:29.33 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r40480 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 10:29.33 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:29.33 | CIA-22 | - Fixed loot browser menu typo |
| 10:30.14 | mitch0 | ckk: and has higher precedence (at least in my interpreter (lua 5.1.2)) |
| 10:30.37 | ckknight | *shrug |
| 10:30.42 | ckknight | * |
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| 10:31.21 | Elkano | it's normal in boolean logic that and > or |
| 10:31.40 | mitch0 | yes |
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| 10:35.11 | Laricwork | [Ammo] do you remember where to find that layout for grid? |
| 10:35.14 | Tupsi | how did the "tinytip moving away" discussion went last night? |
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| 10:35.24 | Elkano | \o/ my guild is switching from KTM/SWStats to Omen/Violation |
| 10:35.37 | [Ammo] | prepare for pain elkano :p |
| 10:35.42 | Tupsi | haha |
| 10:35.47 | Tupsi | indeed |
| 10:36.02 | Tupsi | the whining never stops |
| 10:36.10 | Tupsi | i made them change a week ago |
| 10:36.13 | Elkano | well, I made them do it ;) and thanks to my GestapoGnome... ;) |
| 10:36.16 | Tupsi | since then: constant whining about everything |
| 10:36.25 | [Ammo] | it might be horribly broken etc ofcourse |
| 10:36.28 | Tupsi | elk: dito |
| 10:37.10 | AnduinLothar | Question: How exactly is passValue from AceConsole "passed to the func, disabled and hidden functions as the first argument" ? |
| 10:37.24 | Tupsi | atm what irritates the shit out of my people is the bottom line usualy telling them "there is a newer version of omen avaiable!" |
| 10:37.56 | vhaarr | haha |
| 10:38.16 | Tupsi | and you guys brought me in big trouble last thursday |
| 10:38.27 | [Ammo] | we did no such thing tupsi |
| 10:38.30 | Mikk | Tupsi: TinyTip is back on the SVN again... for now. |
| 10:38.43 | Tupsi | apperently "some" changes there broke everything which was not updated |
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| 10:38.46 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: I don't understand your question, it depends on the type of function, of course, if it's a method, the object is passed as the first real argument. |
| 10:38.53 | Mikk | But it will be going away when Thrae has a working version of his new TinyTip. We have until then to come up with a new name for the old one :> |
| 10:39.01 | Tupsi | as I "just" put an updated threat-1.0 in our uniuploader |
| 10:39.05 | [Ammo] | TinyTipRipOff |
| 10:39.06 | [Ammo] | done |
| 10:39.13 | [Ammo] | RippedMyTip |
| 10:39.17 | AnduinLothar | may sound silly, just wondering if it replaces the 'self' or the first argument after that. Also wondering why the AceConsole code has somehting about passTable |
| 10:39.21 | vhaarr | someone said TinyRip, I like that |
| 10:39.29 | Mikk | yeah it kicks ass for those of us that know it already |
| 10:39.32 | Mikk | sucks for newcomers =( |
| 10:39.37 | dodgizzla | Make it at least RinyTip or so :> |
| 10:39.47 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: no, it does not, if self is needed. |
| 10:40.07 | Laricwork | is there a new tinytip coming? |
| 10:40.09 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: so basically, if the aceoptions table has disabled="Method", the passValue is essentially the second argument |
| 10:40.20 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: while if it's disabled=function() ... end, passValue is the first argument |
| 10:40.22 | Elkano | AnduinLothar: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#Example_6 |
| 10:40.40 | Elkano | AceConsole is simply supporting AceOption data tables |
| 10:40.41 | Tupsi | but two or three versions later that evening everything was back to normal :-) |
| 10:41.07 | Mikk | Have I been sniffing too much glue or is AL using ace libs? o.O |
| 10:41.11 | Tupsi | although explaining total computer noobs to "just update to current versions" isnt that trivial |
| 10:41.15 | Adirell1 | Tupsi, note you're lucky enough to have people using uniuploader... |
| 10:41.15 | AnduinLothar | Elkano: I know. but the examples don't show how passValue is used |
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| 10:41.31 | Tupsi | adire: well I forced them kinda |
| 10:41.45 | Adirell1 | Tupsi: I gave up after some tries |
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| 10:41.53 | AnduinLothar | thx vhaarr |
| 10:41.55 | Tupsi | its either upload there profiles regularly or no cookies (read loot in raids) |
| 10:42.19 | Tupsi | raiders usualy succumb to that |
| 10:42.19 | [Ammo] | silly |
| 10:42.19 | Adirell1 | Tupsi: for that you have to have the raid leader follow you |
| 10:42.36 | Adirell1 | and our raid leaders have other things apart from addons |
| 10:42.38 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: generally, in Ace2 libraries, the first argument to methods, 'self', is never counted - if the docs say 'first argument', it usually means the second one. |
| 10:42.38 | Tupsi | that would be a) me or b) my dentist |
| 10:42.50 | AnduinLothar | Mikk: I'm finishing up Ace2Khaos ;) |
| 10:42.51 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: There's no point in counting it since it's passed automatically |
| 10:43.01 | Mikk | AnduinLothar: Aaahhh ok, I see ;) |
| 10:43.02 | Tupsi | and as b) is the total computer noob in front of the mighty one, he follows just me lead in that |
| 10:43.21 | [Ammo] | AnduinLothar: ooh the aceoptions tables in khaos that you started on a few months ago? |
| 10:43.30 | Tupsi | Adirell1 but i know what you mean, its tiresome most of the time |
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| 10:43.41 | AnduinLothar | just trying to catch all the silly exception cases |
| 10:44.12 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: It would be nice if you could note down stuff that confuses you and edge cases that you discover, so that we can get them all on the wiki somewhere. |
| 10:44.23 | AnduinLothar | vhaarr, so passValue would replace the 1st value or just push all args down? |
| 10:44.26 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: It doesn't occur to us when writing code that deals with it, since we know the quirks already. |
| 10:45.03 | Adirell1 | brb, gotta reconnect |
| 10:45.21 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: it pushes, if it's not part of a passing group |
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| 10:45.37 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: in a passing group, the first argument is the option key of the suboption, in which case the passValue replaces that key |
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| 10:46.20 | vhaarr | brb |
| 10:46.29 | AnduinLothar | so in a 2nd level group the 1st level option key is not passed at all? |
| 10:48.35 | Elkano | I think 2nd level groups aren't possible although maybe the arg is simply inserted so the other args get pushed |
| 10:48.50 | AnduinLothar | afaik groups can extend indefinitely |
| 10:49.04 | AnduinLothar | not convienient for display at all tho |
| 10:50.12 | AnduinLothar | at least there is no defined restriction anywhere in the docs for levels of groups thta i can find |
| 10:50.23 | Mikk | other than that no sane dev will nest dozens of groups deep |
| 10:51.25 | AnduinLothar | have you configued fubar recently? |
| 10:51.57 | AnduinLothar | Background > Texture > |
| 10:52.24 | [Ammo] | there is a restricting on passing groups |
| 10:52.26 | [Ammo] | not normal groups |
| 10:52.39 | AnduinLothar | can you define a 'passing group' for me? |
| 10:53.00 | [Ammo] | you can define getters and setters for the passing group |
| 10:53.09 | [Ammo] | and the suboptions gets passed to those getters and setters for that group |
| 10:53.12 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 10:53.20 | [Ammo] | but I'm no hero on aceoptions tables |
| 10:53.29 | AnduinLothar | that needs to be clearly defined in the docs |
| 10:53.33 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: It's basically a function killer |
| 10:53.46 | AnduinLothar | cause it's refrenced only in the passValue desc |
| 10:53.49 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: A passing group is where you set the set,get,func,etc settings on the parent type=group |
| 10:54.08 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: And suboptions will invoke those handlers instead of their own set,get,func handlers if not explicitly set |
| 10:54.37 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: it's this way because most options are simply a get=function(key) return db.key end, set=function(key, val) db.key = val end |
| 10:54.38 | vhaarr | right? |
| 10:54.44 | vhaarr | so you kill uneccessary functions |
| 10:54.50 | vhaarr | making the whole thing use less memory |
| 10:55.06 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: but you can't nest passing groups |
| 10:55.40 | AnduinLothar | meh. if their smart they're not using lambda functions anyway and all of them are just refrences |
| 10:55.59 | vhaarr | right, you can do that as well, of course |
| 10:56.04 | AnduinLothar | which makes the memory argument moot |
| 10:56.37 | [Ammo] | even if you're using references 1 function vs 10+ is good |
| 10:57.39 | AnduinLothar | right, but you can always use the same refrence on all the sub optiosn and that'd prolly make up for the execution time AceConsole uses on the fallback |
| 10:57.49 | AnduinLothar | anyway. |
| 10:58.04 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: Some addons do that. |
| 10:58.06 | [Ammo] | you could indeed with a passValue |
| 10:58.09 | vhaarr | Like unit frames, for example. |
| 10:58.19 | vhaarr | Both agUF and PitBull. |
| 10:58.24 | [Ammo] | I use something like that for the violation windows |
| 10:58.34 | [Ammo] | since I have a few different setter functions depending on what needs updating |
| 10:58.48 | AnduinLothar | i'm not here to argue coding practices. just trying to figure out how it works |
| 10:58.51 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: Anyway, I'm just explaining how it works. |
| 10:59.39 | AnduinLothar | ok so any sub option that doesn't define a set or get automaticly makes the parent group a 'passing group' then? |
| 10:59.53 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: No, the parent group must have pass=true set |
| 10:59.58 | vhaarr | otherwise, it errors |
| 11:00.04 | vhaarr | "Missing handler 'get'", etc |
| 11:00.30 | AnduinLothar | clear as mud. ok |
| 11:00.50 | AnduinLothar | musta missed readign that line |
| 11:01.06 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:01.58 | AnduinLothar | just a thought: it might be easier to read the docs page if there was also a section that had a list of all possible fields and what types they're used in |
| 11:02.20 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: I think we'd welcome any changes you make, it's a wiki after all |
| 11:02.39 | vhaarr | you're in a better position to write it, since you know exactly what would help you figure out the stuff we explain to you now |
| 11:04.12 | AnduinLothar | so... why is pass used and not jsut assumed? |
| 11:05.16 | vhaarr | mostly because of history, I guess, previously it was not possible to override a passing groups handlers |
| 11:05.28 | AnduinLothar | does it only pass get and set? |
| 11:05.36 | vhaarr | no, it also passes func |
| 11:05.49 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40481 10oRA2/ (embeds.xml modules.xml oRA2.toc): oRA2: switch to embeds.xml structure as it speeds up loading time. It's fucking ugly, but speedup > beauty. |
| 11:05.59 | AnduinLothar | func's only used on executes? |
| 11:06.04 | vhaarr | right |
| 11:06.06 | Kalman| | Cryect: Ping? |
| 11:06.18 | Kalman| | Bah, he isn't even online. |
| 11:06.20 | AnduinLothar | why isn't it just called set? |
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| 11:06.42 | AnduinLothar | nm |
| 11:06.47 | Elkano | ammo, it does speed up? |
| 11:06.53 | [Ammo] | apparantly |
| 11:06.59 | Mikk | whichwha? |
| 11:07.04 | phyber | [Ammo]: how, exactly? |
| 11:07.07 | phyber | if you know :) |
| 11:07.07 | Elkano | (dis)embedded? |
| 11:07.14 | vhaarr | yes, disembedded only |
| 11:07.17 | AnduinLothar | xml loading is smarter than toc loading |
| 11:07.24 | vhaarr | since it prevents framexml errors |
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| 11:07.34 | Mikk | ooh |
| 11:07.49 | [Ammo] | it is fucking ugly |
| 11:07.59 | [Ammo] | XML is the devil |
| 11:08.00 | [Ammo] | and this looks SHIT |
| 11:08.00 | phyber | tarded. so FrameXML logs when it can't find something in the TOC but is happy when something from an XML file isn't there? |
| 11:08.04 | [Ammo] | but if it's faster :) |
| 11:08.16 | vhaarr | phyber: blizzards framexml log writer is slower than syrup |
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| 11:08.23 | AnduinLothar | xml is better anyway, because you can change it without logging out |
| 11:08.25 | vhaarr | phyber: and yes |
| 11:08.39 | phyber | vhaarr: neat. |
| 11:09.00 | vhaarr | not really |
| 11:09.05 | [Ammo] | it looks ugly |
| 11:09.06 | vhaarr | it would be better if they just fixed TOCs |
| 11:09.10 | [Ammo] | but meh |
| 11:09.14 | Tupsi | how serious is this pitbull warning i read last night? |
| 11:09.28 | Mikk | if it crashes, it's serious. if not,you're golden |
| 11:09.30 | Tupsi | about going back till 2.1.2 |
| 11:09.38 | Tupsi | haha, thought so |
| 11:09.46 | AnduinLothar | <Include file="SeaHooks\SeaHooks.xml"/> is ugly? |
| 11:10.03 | [Ammo] | it's ugly |
| 11:10.03 | Mikk | only if you abhor xml :> |
| 11:10.09 | AnduinLothar | <Script file="localization.en.lua"/> |
| 11:10.12 | [Ammo] | I hate xml with a passion |
| 11:10.12 | sbu | hmmm wtf |
| 11:10.25 | Mikk | I don't mind having file lists in xml myself |
| 11:10.33 | Mikk | You won't catch me defining any UI objects in XML tho |
| 11:10.41 | Elkano | Mikk, sice 2.1.2 is most likely tomorrow... ;) |
| 11:10.47 | sbu | you cant iterate an parser-3.0 event table, correct? :o |
| 11:10.57 | AnduinLothar | pairs |
| 11:11.01 | vhaarr | sbu: it's a keyed table |
| 11:11.02 | Adirelle|Work | WAU kicks embeds.xml, so there is one error instead of 10... |
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| 11:11.15 | Adirelle|Work | per addon |
| 11:11.24 | Mikk | WAU should just nil out embeds.xml |
| 11:11.26 | Mikk | zero errors |
| 11:11.34 | sbu | vhaarr: strange thing is - ace console PrintLiteral works - pairs(e) doesnt |
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| 11:11.55 | vhaarr | sbu: for k, v in pairs(eventTable) should work fine |
| 11:12.17 | sbu | doesnt work :/ |
| 11:12.27 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.31 | rophy | vhaarr: I believe parser-3.0 is same as 1.1, which uses a proxy table to pass to the clients. |
| 11:12.35 | rophy | in that case pairs() won't work. |
| 11:12.35 | AnduinLothar | do passing groups pass more than 1 level deep? |
| 11:12.40 | vhaarr | rophy: ah, you're right |
| 11:12.43 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: no |
| 11:13.05 | AnduinLothar | do i need to override the most recently defined fanc/set/get or can I just pass the parent group table |
| 11:13.07 | sbu | mh - so i have to get each key if i want to copy all values, right? |
| 11:14.00 | rophy | there is a method to iterate the table in 1.1, i think something similar should be in 3.0? |
| 11:16.18 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40482 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.toc embeds.xml): WitchHunt: disembedded speed before beauty |
| 11:16.23 | Laricwork | [Ammo] is there an event triggered when ors2 changes a tank? |
| 11:16.32 | [Ammo] | Laricwork: oRA_MainTankUpdate |
| 11:16.37 | Laricwork | thanks |
| 11:16.45 | [Ammo] | check the participant MT module |
| 11:17.10 | Laricwork | but it is so nice to ask the coder .) |
| 11:17.21 | [Ammo] | hehe |
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| 11:17.53 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40483 10ArkInventory/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:17.53 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 11:17.53 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-18-21-15 |
| 11:18.18 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r40484 10XPBarNone/ (XPBarNone.toc embeds.xml): |
| 11:18.18 | CIA-22 | XPBarNone: |
| 11:18.18 | CIA-22 | - o hai, i jumped on ur bandwagon. |
| 11:20.37 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40485 10SRA/ (SRA.toc embeds.xml): SRA: Speed & Rapid Access |
| 11:20.40 | Silviu- | [Ammo] libs must be threated the same ? |
| 11:20.54 | [Ammo] | shrug |
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| 11:21.02 | Silviu- | with embeds i mean |
| 11:21.02 | [Ammo] | just adjusting some of my addons |
| 11:21.11 | Adirelle|Work | Silviu-: do you still have performance issues with TTK ? |
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| 11:21.34 | Silviu- | Did not try it today Adirelle |
| 11:21.38 | Silviu- | I had in raid yesterday |
| 11:21.51 | Silviu- | Later today when i raid again i`ll let u know |
| 11:22.37 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r40486 10Cosplay/ (Cosplay.toc embeds.xml): |
| 11:22.37 | CIA-22 | Cosplay: |
| 11:22.37 | CIA-22 | - XML begins to cast Drain Soul. |
| 11:22.40 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r40487 10TickTo/ (TickTo.toc embeds.xml): TickTo: .xml is cool now |
| 11:22.44 | Punkie` | hehehe |
| 11:22.49 | [Ammo] | haha |
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| 11:26.29 | Lyf | What should I do when Omen asks for Waterfall-1.0 when I try to open the menu? It doesn't seem Waterfall is required in the .toc |
| 11:26.30 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40488 10Baggins/ (Baggins.toc embeds.xml): |
| 11:26.30 | CIA-22 | Baggins: Move embeds to embeds.xml for loading speedup when disembedded |
| 11:26.30 | CIA-22 | ~lart Blizzard's TOC loader |
| 11:26.30 | purl | executes killall -TERM Blizzard's TOC loader |
| 11:27.25 | Punkie` | I expect at least a 15.4% increase in load time! |
| 11:27.45 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r40489 10Fizzle/ (Fizzle.toc embeds.xml): |
| 11:27.45 | CIA-22 | Fizzle: |
| 11:27.45 | CIA-22 | - XML finishes casting Drain Soul. You die. XML gains [Soul Shard]. |
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| 11:28.47 | Elkano | btw: anyone mind adding GetSellValue API call to GarbageFu if that function exists? |
| 11:28.56 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40490 10Violation/Threat/Threat.lua: Violation: Change "Global Threat" shorthand from "T" to "GT" |
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| 11:30.39 | Mikk | [Ammo] / vhaarr: Would you mind horribly if I rearranged some of the menus in Violation? :: |
| 11:30.56 | Mikk | 1. Move all the layout stuff in the rightclick report window to a submenu -- it's getting bloaty |
| 11:30.57 | Adirelle|Work | Silviu-: btw I made a little try (on maiden), every seemed fine |
| 11:30.57 | vhaarr | Mikk: maybe |
| 11:31.04 | Punkie` | Mikk: Do it first and tell Ammo later, he loves surprises! |
| 11:31.06 | Mikk | 2. Add Report to the window menu |
| 11:31.13 | vhaarr | Mikk: it depends how you do #2 |
| 11:31.30 | Mikk | 3. Rearrange reporting totally so it's easier to report multiple things to the same destination |
| 11:31.37 | [Ammo] | Mikk, go ahead |
| 11:31.41 | [Ammo] | if we don't like it we'll revert |
| 11:31.43 | Mikk | =) |
| 11:31.43 | [Ammo] | and you can go emo |
| 11:31.47 | [Ammo] | deal? |
| 11:31.52 | Mikk | i suck at emo =( |
| 11:32.01 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 11:32.02 | Mikk | other than that it's ok :> |
| 11:32.04 | vhaarr | Mikk: go ahead |
| 11:32.12 | Mikk | vhaarr: What's your concern with reporting in the window menu? |
| 11:32.21 | vhaarr | Mikk: that you implement it poorly |
| 11:32.51 | Mikk | Like have a duplicate of all the texts? :P |
| 11:32.58 | Mikk | Phat chance |
| 11:33.14 | JoshBorke | i dunno mikk, you're the one coding ;-P |
| 11:33.18 | Mikk | haha |
| 11:33.42 | Mikk | Bah, I'll split the commits so you can back either one out if you don't like |
| 11:33.50 | vhaarr | excellent |
| 11:33.51 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 11:34.14 | Elkano | mikk, it's easy... 1. get razor blade 2. cut wrist 3. ??? 4. PROFIT! |
| 11:34.21 | Mikk | Mind if I fix embeds.xml while i'm at it? :P |
| 11:34.37 | Mikk | er nvm |
| 11:34.39 | Mikk | it's there already |
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| 11:35.37 | Elkano | btw: anyone knows a good addon to keep track of what stuff you have on your alts/bank chars, with the focus on items and not chars |
| 11:35.51 | Mikk | please let me know when you find one |
| 11:35.52 | JoshBorke | Elkano: i wrote a mod called loottracker |
| 11:35.57 | JoshBorke | it does sort of what you want |
| 11:36.12 | Elkano | (I see myself ending up with writing my one and adding it to ItemDB :/ ) |
| 11:36.14 | JoshBorke | but you have to know what you are looking for |
| 11:36.21 | Mikk | i'd like a "Find" function that just tells me how much I have, and on which chars |
| 11:36.38 | rophy | define 'focus on items and not chars' ? |
| 11:36.40 | JoshBorke | i'm sure sanity has that functionality |
| 11:36.41 | dodgizzla | Elkano: Sanity :D |
| 11:36.49 | JoshBorke | Elkano/Mikk: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4671-LootTracker.html |
| 11:36.54 | Mikk | i'd also like for Baggins to let me peek at other toons, with their own bank/bag settings |
| 11:36.56 | Kalman| | Mikk: Bagnon does that quite well, assuming you have one of the item in question on your logged in char. |
| 11:36.57 | Elkano | well, I mean having a look at an engi recipes categorie and seeing "ah I got 5 of these and 3 of these on my alts" |
| 11:37.20 | rophy | Sanity? |
| 11:37.37 | dodgizzla | Elkano: Sanity does that. If you mouseover an item it tells you how much of that on what char you have |
| 11:37.40 | Mikk | On another note... there has to be a better way to handle all this data |
| 11:37.48 | Mikk | There's several addons that cache this stuff |
| 11:38.11 | Mikk | CharacterInfoStorage, Sanity, .... more |
| 11:38.15 | Elkano | dodgizzla, and if you don't have an item to hover about? |
| 11:38.27 | JoshBorke | mikk: the problem is persistent storage |
| 11:38.31 | dodgizzla | Elkano: You open the interface and type your query into the search box :D |
| 11:38.54 | Elkano | ok, I'll most likely really end up with my own :/ |
| 11:39.06 | rophy | Mikk: I think the problem is every addon wants to track different data,and they dont want the data they dont need, so they're against a centralized DB. |
| 11:39.27 | Mikk | Yeah I see the point.. but in the end it ends up being worse >.< |
| 11:39.29 | AnduinLothar | the caching is easy. the search gui is harder |
| 11:39.44 | Elkano | as soon as I manage to get a list in the form id -> "char:count;char:count;..." I'm done... |
| 11:39.55 | dodgizzla | As I said, give Sanity a try. It owns :> |
| 11:40.04 | Mikk | Nowai. I'm married to baggins :> |
| 11:40.22 | Elkano | since with that list I could throw ItemDB's filters at the list |
| 11:40.24 | dodgizzla | polygamy? :> |
| 11:40.27 | Mikk | haha |
| 11:40.31 | rophy | imo bag addon and item DB addon should be separated. |
| 11:40.35 | Mikk | yes |
| 11:40.39 | rophy | since you cannot interact with alt char items at all. |
| 11:40.55 | AnduinLothar | you can tooltip them and shift click them |
| 11:41.02 | AnduinLothar | and viewing room |
| 11:41.04 | Mikk | I'm half of a mind to require like.. CharacterInfoStorage |
| 11:41.06 | Mikk | for baggins |
| 11:41.12 | Mikk | but that's up to narg, not me |
| 11:41.17 | Elkano | rophy, it would be an additional addon using itemdb's ui and the ui code. the item db stuff is handled by a lib by now anyways |
| 11:41.19 | Nargiddley | when i add storage to baggins it'll be char.itemid = count or something similar |
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| 11:41.35 | Mikk | Nargiddley: Gogo CharacterInfoStorage for looking at alts? |
| 11:41.44 | Nargiddley | i want to fix the section jumping around thing first tho |
| 11:42.02 | Nargiddley | Mikk, what info does it store ? |
| 11:42.12 | Mikk | Enuf to present a full view of bags and bank |
| 11:42.14 | cryogen | heh baggins is great, i just wish i could figure out how to use it more :( |
| 11:42.23 | Mikk | But its GUI sucks ass (CharacterInfoViewer) |
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| 11:42.57 | Nargiddley | Mikk, i'll look into it sometime. But i dont get that much time nowadays :/ |
| 11:43.02 | Mikk | Just presents everything in a huge bag, and a huge bank |
| 11:43.06 | Mikk | Unsorted |
| 11:43.07 | rophy | Nargiddley if you want to add item DB support in Baggins, please be sure to make that optional :p |
| 11:43.18 | Nargiddley | it will be |
| 11:43.37 | Mikk | Aye, it's optional functionality |
| 11:43.47 | Elkano | item db support in baggins? or do you mean alt/bank data support? |
| 11:44.03 | rophy | alt/bank data support, I dunno what should that be named. |
| 11:44.12 | Mikk | alt/bank data support =) |
| 11:44.43 | rophy | item DB is 6 characters |
| 11:44.47 | rophy | only! |
| 11:44.58 | Elkano | since item db support points to addons like ItemSync, Lootlink, ... that have their own db or addons like Ludwig, ItemDB that run on the client's cache |
| 11:45.14 | Elkano | "item DB" is 7 :P |
| 11:45.25 | Elkano | or 8 if you add \0 ;) |
| 11:45.34 | Mikk | Lua doesn't have \0 |
| 11:45.35 | Mikk | ~lart elkano |
| 11:45.35 | purl | puts elkano through a wood chipper |
| 11:45.36 | Nargiddley | it wouldnt be hard to hack the storage in right now, I basicly already keep the db i'd be saving |
| 11:46.06 | Mikk | It's another load time increaser that we don't really need tho |
| 11:46.42 | Mikk | I'd just abstract the "API" for it I think, and have it go poke around in whatever addon happens to be loaded |
| 11:46.49 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 11:46.51 | Elkano | anyone knows if I can still access the bank through API as reaction to the bank closing event? and can I store bags during the logout event? |
| 11:47.05 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40491 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: |
| 11:47.05 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:47.05 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR (need check) |
| 11:48.26 | Nargiddley | Elkano, you can get item counts from anywhere but that requires the itemid |
| 11:49.13 | Nargiddley | dont think you can do any more away from the bank |
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| 11:49.36 | Elkano | well, but that would result in a crawl over 40k items and iirc on PLAYER_LOGOUT the server is most likely already gone |
| 11:49.59 | Nargiddley | yeah that way wouldnt work |
| 11:50.49 | Elkano | so I will end up with INVENTORY_UPDATE or what it was called most likely... |
| 11:51.23 | Elkano | (hmm... and I would have to extend itemdb's gui to support more than the baseid) |
| 11:51.34 | AnduinLothar | vhaarr: is the the option key passed to sub sets and gets or just to func, disabled and hidden functions as passValue specifies? |
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| 11:54.36 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: should be set and get as well |
| 11:55.17 | AnduinLothar | and passValue can be overridden by children? |
| 11:55.25 | Elkano | well, heading to Japanese lecture now... mata ne. |
| 11:55.32 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: yes |
| 11:55.50 | AnduinLothar | but only is passed to immediate children |
| 11:56.11 | vhaarr | passValue is passed to the set,get,func,etc handlers no matter what |
| 11:56.18 | vhaarr | passValue has nothing to do with passing groups |
| 11:56.44 | vhaarr | except that it replaces the option key as the first argument IF the option is part of a passing group |
| 11:56.52 | vhaarr | i.e. it takes precedence |
| 11:58.04 | AnduinLothar | is passValue passed on to children? |
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| 11:58.46 | vhaarr | you mean if a type=group has passValue set? |
| 11:58.54 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 11:59.01 | vhaarr | that I don't know, actually |
| 11:59.14 | vhaarr | :< |
| 11:59.45 | vhaarr | I would guess so, though |
| 12:00.10 | vhaarr | anyway lunch time, bbl |
| 12:00.18 | AnduinLothar | otherwise what would it be used for if defined in a group? |
| 12:01.15 | Nargiddley | just checked the waterfall implementation of it |
| 12:01.39 | Nargiddley | a groups is passed to the disabled etc of the group, dont see it going to children |
| 12:02.35 | AnduinLothar | um |
| 12:02.39 | Nargiddley | i'm generally following what dewdrop and aceconsole do tho, so that might not be right |
| 12:03.18 | AnduinLothar | that doesn't answer if it passes passValue tho. just that it only passes 1 group deep |
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| 12:03.44 | AnduinLothar | but the basic answer is that it's not characteristicly defined |
| 12:03.59 | Nargiddley | a group with passValue set only goes to the actual groups disabled, not the children functions in my implementation |
| 12:04.16 | AnduinLothar | k |
| 12:04.35 | Nargiddley | i can look at the others and try to figure it out |
| 12:05.15 | AnduinLothar | bleh. passValue doubles my amount of lambda functions in the reg code |
| 12:05.46 | AnduinLothar | spose i could insert and unpack |
| 12:06.11 | AnduinLothar | maybe recycle tables |
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| 12:08.21 | Nargiddley | looks like dewdrop does the same as waterfall |
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| 12:15.07 | Lyf | Is anyone having problems with the omen offset? It seems the values aren't aligned correctly. |
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| 12:27.02 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40492 10LockSmith/ (LockSmith.toc embeds.xml): LockSmith: speed before beauty |
| 12:27.17 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40493 10CrowBar/ (CrowBar.toc embeds.xml): CrowBar: speed before beauty |
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| 12:28.11 | kenlyric | hmmm. |
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| 12:34.54 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40494 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added Old Serra'kis in frFR. Thanks, lantares |
| 12:35.32 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40495 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua CoreModules/CombatTime.lua): Assessment: Added record ooc option. This disabled recording of things that do not occur during combat. |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40496 10FuBar_GemWatchFu/localization.lua: |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-22 | FuBar_GemWatchFu: |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-22 | - frFR update |
| 12:41.58 | sbu | mhhh painchips doesnt provide school colors? (e.g. fire -> red, ...) |
| 12:42.31 | [Ammo] | sbu: register them yourself :) |
| 12:42.48 | sbu | hmmm yep |
| 12:46.56 | sbu | [Ammo]: its 7 lines, but i dont understand why its not in paintchips :o (class colors + item rarity are also there) |
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| 12:48.24 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40497 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Control clicking on damage dealt/taken player names shows correctly colored Damage Type details now |
| 12:48.26 | [Ammo] | sbu: feel free to add |
| 12:48.43 | [Ammo] | sbu: or give names + colors and I'll do it |
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| 12:51.37 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40498 10LittleWigs/ (LittleWigs.toc modules.xml): LittleWigs: modules.xml for speedup when running LoD |
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| 12:51.57 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40499 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua Options/Modules/ThreatBar.lua): |
| 12:51.57 | CIA-22 | Aloft : |
| 12:51.57 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:52.40 | Punkie` | need more .xmls! |
| 12:52.55 | [Ammo] | they're fugly, but if it does the trick I'm all for using it |
| 12:53.10 | [Ammo] | since my PC is slowass as it is |
| 12:53.53 | Punkie` | they aren't so bad |
| 12:53.58 | Punkie` | just 1 more file |
| 12:54.00 | Silviu- | [Ammo] BugSack ;p |
| 12:55.13 | Daemona | hmm something broke the combo point thingy on pitbull |
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| 12:57.36 | xt | how much is the improvement with all these mods changing to xml? |
| 12:58.14 | omega_ | what was the name of the addon that adds some stats to item tooltips and a Sigma character? |
| 12:58.49 | Silviu- | i think is loading time + reloadui time |
| 12:59.04 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40500 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: .SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: Break out earlier in PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED. |
| 12:59.18 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40501 10CandyBar/ (CandyBar.toc embeds.xml): CandyBar: speed before beauty |
| 12:59.45 | Silviu- | Later i`ll update my update script to delete embeds ;) |
| 12:59.52 | Silviu- | After all this is ready ^^ |
| 13:02.24 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40502 10Necronomicon2/ (Necronomicon2.toc embeds.xml): Necronomicon2: speed before beauty |
| 13:02.27 | [Ammo] | I'm only doing my own junk shrug |
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| 13:04.07 | kebinusan | whats embeds.xml for |
| 13:04.46 | [Ammo] | less errors in the framexml log when running disembedded |
| 13:04.59 | [Ammo] | the framexml error log is apparantly built on shit through a funnel in winter |
| 13:05.01 | [Ammo] | and is thus very slow |
| 13:05.12 | mitch0 | :) |
| 13:05.13 | [Ammo] | less errors in framexml log -> faster load times |
| 13:05.44 | kebinusan | lol |
| 13:05.45 | mitch0 | ammo: is there a summary about this embeds.xml stuff somewhere? |
| 13:06.10 | mitch0 | or at least a discussion, or something |
| 13:06.16 | [Ammo] | it's somewhere in the ace2 dev corner |
| 13:06.25 | Silviu- | Started by sylvanaar |
| 13:06.33 | mitch0 | ok, I'll look around |
| 13:07.13 | Holyfaith | is there any way to lookup a item link w/o Sniff? I mean occasionally I just want to check some stuff, but I don't want addon for that. |
| 13:08.07 | Silviu- | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5542.0 |
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| 13:08.58 | mitch0 | silviu: many thanks |
| 13:11.12 | Reality_ | hm |
| 13:11.13 | AnduinLothar | Alright. Who wants to crash test Ace2Khaos? |
| 13:12.13 | alext | man |
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| 13:12.47 | alext | ok well I dont see anything about it in the topic and I am sure a bunch of you use this addon, tinytip... |
| 13:12.50 | alext | so what the hell do we do? |
| 13:13.02 | alext | hes telling us to go to some new website to update it, yet I dont see a release package there to download |
| 13:13.43 | kenlyric | update again. |
| 13:13.48 | clad|sleep | alext: You can download it from his SVN, or wait until he releases it on wowinterface, or use an older versino |
| 13:13.49 | kenlyric | he reverted those changes. |
| 13:14.11 | kenlyric | unless he reverted the reversion after I went to bed |
| 13:14.24 | [Ammo] | naah, it's still on svn |
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| 13:16.27 | mitch0 | oh, tinytip moved away? :( |
| 13:16.47 | Mikk | not yet |
| 13:16.48 | Mikk | but it will |
| 13:17.10 | Mikk | but we'll be doing a ripoff of it |
| 13:17.15 | Mikk | with thrae's blessing |
| 13:17.16 | cladhaire | ... |
| 13:17.17 | cladhaire | why? |
| 13:17.18 | Mikk | <3 thrae |
| 13:17.23 | Mikk | cause tinytip isn't tiny anymore |
| 13:17.29 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Ace2Khaos+Khaos.zip I dare you. |
| 13:17.32 | cladhaire | it will be, thats the whole point of him re-working it. |
| 13:17.49 | cladhaire | Why isn't what he's developing "good enough"? |
| 13:17.59 | Mikk | cause some of us don't want it tinier |
| 13:18.00 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: it won't be in WAU |
| 13:18.00 | kenlyric | "why he is reworking it" and "why he is removing it from the SVN" are two different questions. |
| 13:18.07 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: that is NOT a good reason. |
| 13:18.13 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: did i say it was? :-P |
| 13:18.18 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 13:18.20 | Mikk | i want all the stuff that's in there already :P |
| 13:18.54 | Josh_Borke | mikk: do you want additional features or just the current feature set? |
| 13:19.02 | Mikk | current, really |
| 13:19.03 | cryogen | why doesnt he just make "TinerTip" then |
| 13:19.05 | cladhaire | *shrug* it just sets a bad prescedent.. |
| 13:19.06 | cryogen | +i |
| 13:19.17 | Mikk | but my understanding is that his new tinytip will be less featureful |
| 13:19.18 | Josh_Borke | because if it's just the feature set, could you not just download old revisions from wowi, if he ever uploads a new version ther |
| 13:19.21 | Mikk | cause the current tiny isn't really tiny |
| 13:19.22 | cryogen | you cant just remove features and expect people to be happy :) |
| 13:19.39 | Silviu- | Mikk he rewrites it using Dongle |
| 13:19.43 | cladhaire | no |
| 13:19.46 | cladhaire | he's removing dongle |
| 13:19.49 | Silviu- | Again ? |
| 13:19.50 | Josh_Borke | no, he's just rewriting it |
| 13:19.50 | cladhaire | so dont' start that argument |
| 13:19.50 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 13:19.55 | cladhaire | it doesn't need a library |
| 13:19.57 | cladhaire | =) |
| 13:19.59 | Cryect | heh thats for sure, look at all the people still using vBagnon though the guy only works on Bagnon now :-p |
| 13:20.00 | Silviu- | I saw on google he was using it |
| 13:20.14 | Mikk | he's going libless |
| 13:20.14 | cladhaire | yes, and he said last night he's removing it. |
| 13:20.17 | Cryect | he said yesterday he plans to remove it |
| 13:20.24 | Silviu- | Oh did not ctach that |
| 13:20.25 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 13:20.32 | Silviu- | catch* |
| 13:20.42 | sbu | uuhm |
| 13:20.43 | alext | yah I went back to an older tinytip for now, but that threw me off because his website had no releases for download |
| 13:20.56 | sbu | parser: Death.isItem <-- wtf? item-death? |
| 13:21.55 | cladhaire | Mikk: I know fully well that Thrae said its fine, but I just think its a bad "attitude" to take, move your mod from the ace svn, watch it get forked for no apparent reason |
| 13:22.18 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40503 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: add Parser-3.0 to optional deps for those people that run disembedded with parser-3.0 in 1.1 compat mode. |
| 13:22.42 | Mikk | cladhaire: aye, i'd just have written a new one with a new name myself |
| 13:22.51 | cladhaire | you're not most people |
| 13:22.53 | cladhaire | :P |
| 13:23.12 | Mikk | i care too much about the lusers =( |
| 13:23.26 | Mikk | plus i just PD all my work anyway |
| 13:23.34 | Mikk | so once it's out i don't have a say =) |
| 13:23.55 | cladhaire | heh |
| 13:23.56 | kenlyric | I must hav a different version of tinytip, since mine doesn't seem to be bloated with a lot of extra features. |
| 13:24.02 | chutwig | luuuuuusers |
| 13:24.32 | cladhaire | can someone make germany run faster please? |
| 13:24.36 | kenlyric | let's see. It allows for relocation and text reformatting. What's the bloat? |
| 13:24.48 | chutwig | if ze chermans can't make germany run fast, then nobody can |
| 13:24.55 | kenlyric | you want efficient german sex? |
| 13:24.59 | cladhaire | buffed.de is _SLOW_ |
| 13:25.04 | chutwig | SCHNELL |
| 13:25.08 | Wobin | debuffed.de |
| 13:25.11 | steev64 | hrm |
| 13:25.33 | chutwig | spitzenherunterladensschwindigkeit! |
| 13:25.34 | Mikk | kenlyric: well.. feck knows.. ask thrae =) |
| 13:25.41 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: germany is very quick here |
| 13:25.48 | [Ammo] | must be your transatlantic connection :p |
| 13:25.49 | cladhaire | =) |
| 13:25.58 | cladhaire | only 11.95% done parsing their quest database |
| 13:25.59 | chutwig | that's because you're one of those nefarious dutch! |
| 13:26.04 | cladhaire | and its dragging |
| 13:26.22 | kenlyric | Mikk... I know, LoD! We'll have one for positioning the tooltip at the mouse. One for the upper left corner, etc. |
| 13:26.27 | kenlyric | Only load the position you need! |
| 13:26.40 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:27.26 | chutwig | how do you say nefarious in dutch :( |
| 13:27.46 | [Ammo] | vermaarde |
| 13:27.50 | Holyfaith | anyone here worked out solution for combination of these three addons together - LightHeaded+Skinner+DoubleWided, yet? Seems a lot of people's having problems with it lately. |
| 13:27.55 | chutwig | excellent |
| 13:28.03 | [Ammo] | or vermaledijde |
| 13:28.18 | [Ammo] | I think :) |
| 13:28.19 | chutwig | i can usually read dutch albeit slowly but sometimes you just find these huge vocabulary gaps that absolutely must be filled |
| 13:28.21 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: yeah, don't use Skinner |
| 13:28.30 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: or run /lh detatch |
| 13:28.35 | cladhaire | yes, i know i spelled it wrong =) |
| 13:28.40 | [Ammo] | the words I said are 'old' though |
| 13:29.00 | chutwig | you're also not likely to find nefarious in casual conversation either |
| 13:29.14 | kenlyric | really? |
| 13:29.20 | [Ammo] | true |
| 13:29.21 | kenlyric | guess I need a different social circle. |
| 13:29.24 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:29.27 | Holyfaith | cladhaire: thx, I'll try it :) Or maybe it would work to "turn off" skinning the quest frames only? |
| 13:29.28 | chutwig | heimtückisch |
| 13:29.28 | [Ammo] | get out of the gaming circle! |
| 13:29.45 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: I dont know if the devil, i mean skinner, can do that =) |
| 13:29.51 | kenlyric | monkeypenis! |
| 13:29.56 | chutwig | teuflisch |
| 13:29.56 | cladhaire | detaching the LH frame from teh quest log should give you the flexibility you need |
| 13:30.02 | kenlyric | I just tried to tag steal a ravager and my SW:death resisted. |
| 13:30.10 | chutwig | shit happens |
| 13:30.21 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: better than SW:death while enfeebled on prince |
| 13:30.26 | [Ammo] | we have a silly shadowpriest |
| 13:30.29 | Mikk | hehehe |
| 13:30.32 | Holyfaith | cladhaire and does it save the position of LH when detached? |
| 13:30.33 | kenlyric | well, that would be just dumb. |
| 13:30.37 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: always, yes. |
| 13:30.42 | [Ammo] | and he didn't just do it ONCE |
| 13:30.44 | kenlyric | now, SW:D on evocate curator would be fun. |
| 13:30.44 | chutwig | sort of like when you're pissed off and you try to blow up a critter and it resists |
| 13:30.47 | [Ammo] | nono, he had to go and do it twice |
| 13:30.50 | Holyfaith | cladhaire: okay, thanks |
| 13:31.02 | cladhaire | np |
| 13:31.12 | cladhaire | i'll spell the slash commands right in the next release |
| 13:31.23 | cladhaire | i dont know what i was thinking with /attatch and /detatch |
| 13:31.49 | chutwig | typical english-speaker dedication to correct spelling? i dunno |
| 13:32.13 | chutwig | btw clad since i see you're in #colloquy do you have any idea where development is going these days |
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| 13:32.17 | chutwig | or should i just start using conversation |
| 13:32.40 | cladhaire | chutwig: Do you have any issues with colloquy right now? |
| 13:32.54 | cladhaire | It still seems pretty active, and their releases have been relatively frequent and full of bugfixes. |
| 13:32.56 | cladhaire | I've been content. |
| 13:33.01 | cladhaire | and, you're a stalker imo |
| 13:33.03 | chutwig | they haven't released anything in a long time |
| 13:33.13 | cladhaire | Hrm |
| 13:33.14 | cladhaire | I'd have to look |
| 13:33.16 | chutwig | i was trying to find out if you were in amerikkka or a filthy european |
| 13:33.24 | [Ammo] | he's outside your window now clad, don't look |
| 13:33.36 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:33.46 | chutwig | when it's auto-connecting sometimes i get a race condition bug where the window remains blank and i have to clear it to get it working |
| 13:34.02 | chutwig | which is usually after somebody's written me a ton of messages and then i realize i can't actually see them |
| 13:34.21 | Lyf | Anyone know of a working "Pagemaster" for the standard action bars? |
| 13:34.27 | cladhaire | chutwig: Minimize the window |
| 13:34.30 | cladhaire | then maximize. |
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| 13:34.39 | cladhaire | the button won't respond to mouseover,but it should still "work" |
| 13:34.53 | chutwig | oic |
| 13:34.53 | Holyfaith | cladhaire: interesting, using the latest version of LH and the slahscmd /lh doesn't work.... |
| 13:35.53 | Wobin | oh my god |
| 13:35.54 | Wobin | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435633/ |
| 13:36.01 | Wobin | win! |
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| 13:39.18 | sbu | mhhh |
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| 13:39.54 | sbu | whats the easiest way to create some (visible) 'table' (excel like) - with headers and some cols + scrollable? |
| 13:40.43 | steev64 | http://jaeger.morpheus.net/misc/attack-power.png |
| 13:41.20 | steev64 | sbu: with excel? ;) |
| 13:41.32 | sbu | steev64: uhm no - wow lua :p |
| 13:42.32 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r40504 10BigWigs/Hyjal/ (Anetheron.lua BigWigs_Hyjal.toc Winterchill.lua): BigWigs: Hyjal: frFR Update |
| 13:42.48 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: ... the /lh command definitely works |
| 13:43.35 | haste | steev64: managed to get 3900AP on L67 on my rogue D: |
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| 13:43.48 | Lyf | cladhaire: you developed Page-On-Press back in time, didn't you? Perhaps you know of a working one now? |
| 13:44.06 | Holyfaith | cladhaire hmm, that's weird. It doesn't for me. Maybe some conflict with some other addon? |
| 13:44.06 | cladhaire | no,but making one is relatively easy.. just making a secure action button and setting a binding to click on that button |
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| 13:44.57 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: shouldn't be.. you're positive you're using hte latest release? |
| 13:45.11 | cladhaire | typing /lh doesn't do anything? does it give the standard wow help message? |
| 13:45.36 | Holyfaith | cladhaire yeah, I've just re-downloaded it, just in case. it doesn't work It gives that /help message, yeah |
| 13:45.50 | cladhaire | Do you have lua errors enabled and all that fun stuff? |
| 13:45.53 | steev64 | haste: nice - thats not mine - i haven't even broken 2k yet |
| 13:46.10 | Holyfaith | cladhaire w8 a sec...phone call :) |
| 13:46.19 | steev64 | thats my buddy who happens to be in a raiding guild, actually, i've been removed from "active" status on my guild since i've started playing my shammy more and more |
| 13:46.27 | steev64 | (he's in a different guild than my rogue) |
| 13:47.16 | haste | I don't raid at all anymore either :( |
| 13:47.59 | steev64 | apparently there are 9 people keyed for kara |
| 13:49.29 | Kalman| | Cryect: Ping. |
| 13:51.16 | Holyfaith | cladhaire, yeah I've got lua error displaying enabled and using BugGrabber+BugSack |
| 13:51.38 | cladhaire | and you get no errors when typing /lh |
| 13:51.42 | cladhaire | try /lightheaded? |
| 13:52.05 | Holyfaith | tried that too - with tab autocompleting. Didn;t work too |
| 13:52.33 | Josh_Borke | Holyfaith: don't know if this was asked, but is it enabled? |
| 13:52.33 | cladhaire | not sure what to tell ya.. |
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| 13:52.53 | Holyfaith | All I got in my bugsack is the skinner's error, and it shouldn't affect the behavior of LH itself. |
| 13:53.23 | Holyfaith | Josh_Borke, yes, the LH is working properly, but the slash command doesn't |
| 13:53.38 | Josh_Borke | well that's just odd |
| 13:53.48 | cladhaire | yes it is |
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| 13:54.56 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 13:56.02 | Holyfaith | good thing is, Skinner supports turning off skinning Questlog's frames, so it's alright. However, it's pity /lh doesn't work. I wanted to turn off that sound stuff... :) |
| 13:57.26 | cladhaire | well disable all addons |
| 13:57.30 | cladhaire | see if it doesn't work then |
| 13:58.39 | cladhaire | except LH, i mean =) |
| 13:58.47 | cladhaire | you're the first report I've had of the slash command not working |
| 13:59.16 | cryogen | im sure ive asked this before but is there an ace addon that lets you move the game frames about? |
| 13:59.24 | cryogen | quest log, mailbox etc |
| 14:00.00 | Holyfaith | cladhaire nope, only LH enabled, still doesn't work |
| 14:00.18 | cladhaire | that makes no sense |
| 14:00.28 | cladhaire | open LightHeaded.lua |
| 14:00.32 | cladhaire | and paste your :Enable() function |
| 14:00.34 | cladhaire | if you dont mind |
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| 14:00.57 | Holyfaith | sure |
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| 14:01.39 | Holyfaith | function LightHeaded:Enable() |
| 14:01.40 | Holyfaith | -- Database defaults |
| 14:01.43 | Holyfaith | self.defaults = { |
| 14:01.44 | Holyfaith | profile = { |
| 14:01.46 | Holyfaith | lhopen = true, |
| 14:01.48 | Holyfaith | } |
| 14:01.49 | cladhaire | i said pastey, not paste here =/ |
| 14:01.50 | Holyfaith | } |
| 14:01.51 | cladhaire | please stop |
| 14:01.55 | Holyfaith | sorry |
| 14:02.01 | Holyfaith | wrong window |
| 14:02.01 | cryogen | 15:00 <@cladhaire> and paste your :Enable() function |
| 14:02.03 | cryogen | :p |
| 14:02.06 | cladhaire | well |
| 14:02.13 | cladhaire | that doesn't ever mean spam the channel =) |
| 14:02.53 | Holyfaith | http://ace.pastey.net/57061 |
| 14:03.06 | Holyfaith | sorry, I know, just missed the window :D |
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| 14:03.29 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 14:03.29 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40505 10oRA2/modules.xml: oRA2: bugfix. |
| 14:03.32 | cladhaire | that's not the latest version |
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| 14:03.55 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40506 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: |
| 14:03.55 | CIA-22 | SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: |
| 14:03.55 | CIA-22 | _ cache the player raidid |
| 14:03.55 | CIA-22 | _ use upvalue for most global functions |
| 14:03.55 | CIA-22 | _ activate() should be local |
| 14:04.02 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: http://ace.pastey.net/57062 |
| 14:04.06 | steev64 | speaking of |
| 14:04.23 | Holyfaith | cladhaire and how's that possbiel, when I dled it from wow-i like 15mins ago? :) |
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| 14:04.51 | steev64 | cladhaire: if i run lh from svn, how can i create the A## directories so that the data gets loaded? (its easier for me to update with svn on a linux box) |
| 14:05.02 | cladhaire | steev64: you can check them out from branches |
| 14:05.09 | cladhaire | they won't ever update, except for the .toc version |
| 14:05.10 | steev64 | cladhaire: ta |
| 14:05.15 | Chompers | Hey Ammo, is there a compatability issue when using different revisions of Violation together? |
| 14:05.27 | cladhaire | Holyfaith: I just downloaded from WoWI |
| 14:05.32 | cladhaire | the code is thre. |
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| 14:06.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o SunTiger] by ChanServ |
| 14:06.52 | [Ammo] | Chompers: there were some bugs introduced by me a few revisions ago |
| 14:07.00 | [Ammo] | which causes those revisions not to properly broadcast statistics |
| 14:07.37 | Holyfaith | hmmm...maybe I clicked wrong rev number? Let's see |
| 14:07.44 | Chompers | so its pretty recent then |
| 14:07.47 | cladhaire | just click the big DOWNLOAD button at the top of the page |
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| 14:09.10 | Holyfaith | cladhaire yeah, I know, but I usually check the changelog and it's closer to click the link bottom, which is attached to older versions too. Wouldn't be the first time it happened though :) |
| 14:09.44 | cladhaire | well at the bottom |
| 14:09.47 | cladhaire | there's a "Latest version" |
| 14:09.49 | cladhaire | link =) |
| 14:09.54 | cladhaire | specifically for this reason |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40507 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | - Make it not respond at all to queries via guild that return 0 matches |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | - Cut down on the number of lines sent in response to guild queries |
| 14:11.01 | CIA-22 | - Make it respond with actual data to guild queries that only return 1 or 2 lines, instead of just saying "I got N responses. Whisper me to get em." |
| 14:12.33 | steev64 | cladhaire: btw, thanks a lot for LightHeaded, saves me a ton of time as im leveling my other characters and its been so long since i've done those quests (when I initally leveled i didnt' eve know sites like thottbot existed) |
| 14:12.53 | Holyfaith | yeah, but it's so close to archive list ;) Well, it does work now. I should get a glasses, shouldn't I :) |
| 14:13.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40508 10Assessment/Modules/ (BarInterface.lua GroupMembers.lua): |
| 14:13.08 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 14:13.08 | CIA-22 | - Changes to BarInterface to allow local fight index. Options to be done. |
| 14:13.08 | CIA-22 | - Added option to automatically reset fight data when joining groups. Should work appropriately across logins if disconnected. |
| 14:13.33 | cladhaire | steev64: thanks, glad you liked it. |
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| 14:14.54 | Holyfaith | yeah, LH rocks! |
| 14:15.11 | mitch0 | ok, I've read thru this embeds.xml discussion, but I'm not 100% sure of what the "final" solution is... |
| 14:15.27 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: LH sucks imo |
| 14:15.34 | Holyfaith | and thanks clad for your time :) |
| 14:15.43 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: k glad you hate it. |
| 14:17.28 | rophy | LH sucks unless it automatically move my char to the quest destination, kill the objective mob, loot the quest item, then go back turn in the quest . |
| 14:17.47 | cladhaire | agrerd |
| 14:18.09 | rophy | so please add the feature! |
| 14:18.24 | Punkie` | rophy: someone needs to make LightHeaded_GetMeABeer for that feature |
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| 14:18.34 | Loki|muh | now! |
| 14:18.37 | Loki|muh | *g* |
| 14:24.20 | cryogen | why was i not informed of LH until now! |
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| 14:26.47 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40509 10Assessment/Modules/ (BarInterface.lua Threat.lua): |
| 14:26.47 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 14:26.47 | CIA-22 | - Text that is invisible no longer affects the dependent data for window updates |
| 14:26.47 | CIA-22 | - Threat TPS column moved slightly left |
| 14:26.50 | Josh_Borke | cryogen: your main source of addons is wau? |
| 14:27.35 | [Ammo] | some people don't look beyond wau and miss out on some good stuff |
| 14:28.15 | mitch0 | clad: LH is not hosted on wowace? |
| 14:28.24 | kenlyric | hah |
| 14:28.34 | kenlyric | he left us long ago. |
| 14:28.39 | cryogen | Josh_Borke: it is, but its not the only source |
| 14:28.45 | cryogen | i've just been away for 6 months |
| 14:29.58 | kenlyric | and honestly, it's not like you can use mod websites to get a beat on new mods, either. |
| 14:30.19 | kenlyric | WoWi makes *god cry* |
| 14:30.42 | [Ammo] | they're probably open to suggestions on how to improve the interface |
| 14:30.51 | kenlyric | except, didn't they just do that? |
| 14:30.57 | Cryect | and do they need them |
| 14:31.04 | Cryect | they have a new website? |
| 14:31.17 | Cryect | nope same awful one >_> |
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| 14:31.40 | Cryect | I liked the old Curse website the best |
| 14:31.42 | Mellow_ | who is the developer of ace updater? |
| 14:32.18 | [dRaCo] | Kaelten does the organisation, iirc |
| 14:32.18 | Cryect | Good thing for WAU and I don't have to deal with the various awful interface sites too much :-p |
| 14:32.33 | kenlyric | lightheaded is great for the waypoints alone. |
| 14:33.20 | Mellow_ | is it possible to include some screenshots to the updater? i mean click on fubar and you get a screenshot how fubar looks |
| 14:33.41 | Cryect | why? |
| 14:33.53 | [dRaCo] | Possible: yes. Likely to be implemented: hell, no. |
| 14:33.55 | Cryect | JJust curious that is |
| 14:34.00 | Cryect | oh screenshots of addons |
| 14:34.05 | Cryect | I thought you meant a screenshot of WAU :-p |
| 14:34.24 | durcyn | wau is enough of a bandwidth whore as it is now |
| 14:34.31 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 14:34.41 | [dRaCo] | if you want screenies, check the threads |
| 14:34.51 | [dRaCo] | that's what the forum is made for |
| 14:34.55 | Mellow_ | so there is a reason for it |
| 14:34.58 | Cryect | Heh someone should do a run down sometime of all the addons on the Ace SVN |
| 14:35.48 | sylvanaar | durcyn bandwidth whore ... hrm... that makes me a pimp |
| 14:35.55 | durcyn | Cryect: the toc descriptions are all up on /files/ |
| 14:36.05 | jme | yeah, those are useful |
| 14:36.07 | kenlyric | wau now even includes a link to the appropriate forum thread. |
| 14:36.07 | durcyn | if you see a shitty description, poke the listed author to fix his effing toc |
| 14:36.18 | Cryect | yeah 1 incomplete sentence blurbs tells me a lot :-p |
| 14:36.35 | Cryect | the issue isn't that just you can't include much information in a short sentence |
| 14:36.38 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: would you mind creating a wiki page on this embeds.xml/includes.xml stuff? |
| 14:36.38 | Mellow_ | that's why I asked that question durcyn |
| 14:36.40 | Punkie` | Cryect: serious question, are you ever going to make a completely cut down version of Recount to be self only? :) |
| 14:36.43 | sylvanaar | lrn2rightclick |
| 14:37.08 | Cryect | Punkie`: I can add a feature in so it can filter for you only if you like? |
| 14:37.12 | Kinkx | sRaidFrames: Unknown status Buff_Bloodlust |
| 14:37.21 | Cryect | then you can uncheck everyone else |
| 14:37.30 | Cryect | that work? |
| 14:37.30 | sylvanaar | mitch0 i made a post just now, did you read it? |
| 14:37.56 | Punkie` | Cryect: It could do, but I would really just like some fubar or slash handler without the gui damagemeter thing :) |
| 14:37.59 | kenlyric | cladhaire: do you have a website where you dev/release to, so I don't actually have to visit wowi? :) |
| 14:38.17 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: ah, not yet. reading it (was reading the thread 5 mins ago) |
| 14:38.32 | Cryect | Punkie`: heh well no plans to do that :-p |
| 14:38.40 | Punkie` | :( |
| 14:38.43 | Punkie` | It would be so awesome |
| 14:39.27 | kenlyric | nvm, found one. |
| 14:39.29 | Cryect | maybe sometime in the future but thats kinda opposing the objective of raid analysis that was set to be acheived :-p |
| 14:40.22 | Punkie` | understandable, but a lo-fi personal version would be hot |
| 14:41.01 | sbu | mhhmm meh, so i guess its not possible to create some table in wow/lua (w/o have to handle scrolling/sorting stuff)? :/ (no libs?) |
| 14:41.15 | Mech0z | anyone know if EJ have a IRC channel? |
| 14:41.23 | Cryect | Yeah else than I hate fubar/titan style addons and not a big fan of everything being console based (but I need to flesh out the console commands a lot more though) |
| 14:41.24 | Cryect | yes |
| 14:41.26 | Cryect | gamesurge |
| 14:41.30 | Mech0z | to discuss theorycrafting |
| 14:41.31 | Cryect | #elitistjerks |
| 14:41.39 | Punkie` | Cryect: I don't mean like that |
| 14:41.51 | Mech0z | gamesurge is the irc server? |
| 14:41.53 | sbu | Cryect: you want to create some table lib? :) |
| 14:42.03 | Punkie` | What I mean is, /rc |
| 14:42.08 | Cryect | for discussing theorycrafting not so sure thats what they use it for |
| 14:42.12 | Saroz | hrrrm, give interupt stuff to Assessment |
| 14:42.16 | Punkie` | then it shows you your pie charts etc, for your own personal things |
| 14:42.37 | Cryect | Oh Saroz thanks for that reminder! Heh forgot I wanted to track that |
| 14:42.42 | Punkie` | effectively, /rc would do the exact same as clicking on your bar on the damagemeter |
| 14:42.44 | Cryect | Punkie`: Yes I understood what you meant |
| 14:43.47 | Cryect | Just a lot of work would have to be redone int he interface since a lot is intended to interface with the main window :-p |
| 14:43.56 | Punkie` | true |
| 14:44.20 | Punkie` | the problem is that it costs over 25MiB to record all my data from a raid atm :p |
| 14:44.25 | *** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:44.42 | Cryect | haha yeah :-p if I add an option so you can filter for just yourself |
| 14:44.46 | Cryect | that will stop that though |
| 14:45.01 | Kalman| | Cryect: It mostly isn't theorycrafting convo, but sometimes is. |
| 14:45.16 | Cryect | Heh hence I'm not there :-p |
| 14:45.16 | Kalman| | If it's an interesting question, people will discuss it. If it isn't, Xi will try his best to make you cry. |
| 14:45.31 | Kalman| | Anyway, had a request for stacking mode. |
| 14:46.01 | Cryect | Why would you want to record time based data though for just yourself? |
| 14:46.16 | Saroz | anyone got a screenshot of Assessment? |
| 14:46.58 | Cryect | Saroz one second I can pull up one Roartindon showed |
| 14:47.09 | Saroz | thx |
| 14:47.59 | Cryect | www.lim.com.au/wow/assessment.jpg |
| 14:48.23 | Cryect | :-p |
| 14:48.33 | Kalman| | Was waiting for acknowledgement! :p |
| 14:48.55 | Cryect | Oh was this some sort of request to be able to request :-p |
| 14:49.06 | Cryect | I prefer people just to request something |
| 14:49.08 | Kalman| | Instead of it being X+Y+Z, make it X/(X+Y+Z) + Y/(X+Y+Z) + Z/(X+Y+Z) |
| 14:49.15 | Saroz | UI is ugly, but ok |
| 14:49.19 | Kalman| | % of total, rather than stacking total. |
| 14:49.57 | Kalman| | I have no idea if that made sense. |
| 14:50.01 | Cryect | yes |
| 14:50.09 | Cryect | you want it to be agraph of 100% the entire way across |
| 14:50.12 | Cryect | so its always covered |
| 14:50.20 | Cryect | I've seen that sort of graphs before |
| 14:50.37 | Cryect | can think of an example showing the percentages of console sales in japan per week :-p |
| 14:50.43 | Kalman| | Exactly! |
| 14:51.12 | Kalman| | Anway. That's the request. :p |
| 14:51.15 | Cryect | yeah I can add something like that in, too me a moment to figure out what you were asking for (math in the morning is never good) |
| 14:51.29 | sbu | Antiarc: ping |
| 14:51.43 | Cryect | damn what sort of druid names themself xmastree :-p |
| 14:51.59 | Cryect | just noticed that on that assessment image as it stares at me |
| 14:52.03 | *** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:53.15 | kenlyric | why does my computer hate periodic table? |
| 14:53.55 | Cryect | something tells me that mode is going to confuse the hell out of 90% of users, stacked mode already seems to confuse people since what used to be the largest is no longer on top :-p |
| 14:54.41 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Home (n=Lopen@c-68-62-27-3.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 14:55.06 | Kalman| | Cryect: Fuck em, they don't have to use it. I want % breakdowns! :) |
| 14:55.36 | Cryect | only question is how do I handle the special cases where there is nothing :-p |
| 14:55.55 | Kalman| | Show nothing. |
| 14:56.09 | Kalman| | Make it X+Y+Z+eps. |
| 14:56.53 | |dRiN| | Is there an ace alternative to mobinfo addon? |
| 14:56.54 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=ordog@port-87-234-85-114.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:57.07 | Cryect | heh MobHealth3? |
| 14:57.10 | Cryect | but thats only health |
| 14:57.11 | Gnancy | no just mob health |
| 14:57.13 | |dRiN| | that is only .. :D |
| 14:57.15 | |dRiN| | okay |
| 14:57.23 | Saroz | mobinfo = bloat |
| 14:57.23 | Gnancy | <--too slow |
| 14:57.24 | Cryect | yeah stuck with MobInfo 2 |
| 14:57.29 | |dRiN| | yeah it is bloat |
| 14:57.35 | durcyn | mobinfo: because it really fucking matters how much cloth that ogre dropped two years ago. |
| 14:57.39 | Gnancy | stick with mobhealth imo |
| 14:57.41 | KarlThePagan | i need to know how many greens drop in westfall |
| 14:57.42 | |dRiN| | haha :D |
| 14:57.45 | KarlThePagan | really I do |
| 14:57.49 | |dRiN| | KTL |
| 14:57.50 | |dRiN| | really |
| 14:57.56 | Gnancy | whats westfall? |
| 14:58.04 | KarlThePagan | alliance noob area |
| 14:58.11 | *** join/#wowace zwiep` (n=zwiep@d54C35283.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:58.14 | Gnancy | heh i know just palying along |
| 14:58.16 | hypetech | lol |
| 14:58.22 | Gnancy | or playing |
| 14:58.23 | |dRiN| | mobvalue isnt that bad though |
| 14:58.30 | KarlThePagan | Gnancy, can you help me find mankrik's wife? |
| 14:58.37 | Xuerian | Neeeed a better box... >_> |
| 14:58.41 | Gnancy | sorry im alliance |
| 14:58.41 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: still around? |
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| 14:59.03 | Gnancy | barrens if for succy quest and thats all |
| 14:59.19 | mitch0 | what is the correct approach for libs? to embed or or not to embed? |
| 14:59.23 | Gnancy | yes |
| 14:59.56 | mitch0 | I mean, should a lib embed other libs it needs, or should the final mod that uses this lib embed all the stuff the lib needs? |
| 15:00.16 | Cryect | final mod |
| 15:00.21 | Matrix110 | The mod should be able to run on its own |
| 15:00.41 | Matrix110 | but you can just tell ppl that want embeds to gtfo:P |
| 15:00.42 | Cryect | how is the lib going to embed the stuff anyways unless it includes an xml |
| 15:00.42 | mitch0 | the lib doesn't do anything on its own |
| 15:00.46 | *** join/#wowace Dustwhisper (n=ask@78.80-202-20.nextgentel.com) |
| 15:01.11 | steev64 | i know this is a possibly silly question, but is there an addon that disables alt+tab? my keyboard has a switch that i can hit to disable the windows keys themselves while gaming, but it doesn't affect alt-tab... and god knows how many times i've gone to hit alt+1 or alt+` and hit alt+tab |
| 15:01.26 | mitch0 | ok, but then what's the way to tell the lib's users what other libs to embed if they want to embed this lib? |
| 15:01.45 | hypetech | steev64: can you set alt+tab as an obscure in-game key binding? |
| 15:01.56 | Cryect | mitch0: documentation? |
| 15:02.00 | Kalman| | steev64: I don't think an addon could do it; you'd need a program that captures alt-tab, since it's a special keycombo (like C-A-Delete.) |
| 15:02.15 | Cryect | mitch0: I mean its sthe same way you tell them how to use the library in the first place |
| 15:02.27 | steev64 | Kalman|: yeah, thats what i was thinking, guess ill check in the interface for the keyboard and see if they have something there |
| 15:02.49 | mitch0 | cryect: hm. |
| 15:02.55 | Mikk | install vent & bind windows to PTT key? =P |
| 15:03.07 | Mikk | hmm.. now why didn't i do that |
| 15:03.13 | chutwig | what am i supposed to do with all these apexis shards |
| 15:03.35 | Matrix110 | nothing |
| 15:03.38 | Matrix110 | they are useless |
| 15:03.52 | mitch0 | the ## X-blabla headers are not parsed by blizz, right |
| 15:03.54 | mitch0 | ? |
| 15:03.57 | mitch0 | (int toc) |
| 15:04.01 | mitch0 | s/t// |
| 15:04.11 | Mikk | correct |
| 15:04.12 | Cryect | chutwig: you can do lots of summons or buy flasks |
| 15:04.18 | Mikk | but they're fetchable via GetAddonMetdata |
| 15:04.30 | steev64 | Mikk: no no, the windows key is fine - as stated, the keyboard has a switch to disable the windows keys, doesn't disable alt-tab though - which kills me |
| 15:04.52 | mitch0 | ok, so I could use ## X-NeedsOtherLibs: foo-1.2, bar-2.0 in the lib's toc |
| 15:04.53 | steev64 | http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/elek-interface.png ish - thats what my interface looks like while im here at work |
| 15:04.59 | Mikk | meh... windows key works fine as a PTT key... but when you release it you still jump back to the desktop |
| 15:05.00 | Dustwhisper | any addon that will let you tab through chatwindows with a keybind? Is that even achievable in an addon? If so i could try myself =D |
| 15:05.00 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu) |
| 15:05.04 | steev64 | as you can see - all my heals are alt+#'s |
| 15:05.15 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: totally achievable in an addon |
| 15:05.17 | cladhaire | kenlyric: Whats the issue with visiting WoWI? |
| 15:05.20 | steev64 | so... when i go to heal someone and hit alt-tab... it tends to be bad sometimes :) |
| 15:05.23 | cladhaire | set the addon as your favorite, and yuo even get emailed when its updated. |
| 15:05.32 | mikma | cladhaire: but it's not as easy as WAU! |
| 15:05.35 | cladhaire | kenlyric: I'm not sure why that's so difficult =/ |
| 15:05.46 | steev64 | i thought they have an updater too |
| 15:05.51 | Mikk | you can try that other updater thingy |
| 15:05.55 | steev64 | one of the sites does aside from WAU |
| 15:05.57 | Mikk | the one that supports lots of sites |
| 15:06.04 | kenlyric | cladhaire: coded by howler monkeys. |
| 15:06.04 | Mikk | including files.wowace |
| 15:06.09 | Dustwhisper | Mikk how would you enumerate the chatframes? |
| 15:06.10 | Kalman| | cladhaire: Once a week, I hit Update in WAU. I don't have to go to addon sites, etc, etc. That's the difference; it's convenience, not difficulty. |
| 15:06.25 | cladhaire | Kalman|: How often do my addons need updating? |
| 15:06.30 | cladhaire | not as much as Ace addons, on average |
| 15:06.35 | steev64 | cladhaire: every 30 minutes! |
| 15:06.39 | Kalman| | cladhaire: Whenever you update them! :p |
| 15:06.41 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: They're named ChatFrame1 through ChatFrameN |
| 15:06.46 | Mikk | If it's not visible, skip to next |
| 15:06.47 | Mikk | easy |
| 15:06.57 | Dustwhisper | ah i thought they changed name if you changed it |
| 15:06.59 | Dustwhisper | my idiocy =D |
| 15:07.01 | Mikk | nop |
| 15:07.46 | nevcairiel | man that tattle dataminer is slowing down my system :( |
| 15:07.47 | Dustwhisper | thank you |
| 15:07.54 | cladhaire | Kalman|: Well, they're not ace addons, and I dont like the way the release process works on the ace svn |
| 15:07.58 | cladhaire | I've been very clear about that |
| 15:08.15 | Cryect | yarr which is fine! |
| 15:08.16 | cladhaire | I also do not feel its difficult to listen for updates via favorites, and updating _as necessary_ instead of compulsively |
| 15:09.00 | kenlyric | wowi needs to let you create a custom rss feed with the mods you use in it. |
| 15:09.02 | Matrix110 | ye its a bit useless to update 40mods if they just got updated locals which i dont care about anyway:P |
| 15:09.07 | kenlyric | that'd be sexycool. |
| 15:09.09 | Cryect | eh well wowinterface is such a questionable design, I hate websites based around forum software (hence I've got this tendency to hate all the major addon sites) |
| 15:09.10 | *** join/#wowace Ins- (n=sam@103.71-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 15:09.10 | cladhaire | kenlyric: suggest it =) |
| 15:09.25 | kenlyric | cladhaire: those monkeys can't even code HTML. |
| 15:09.31 | durcyn | Cryect: so write your own scraper and script it yourself. |
| 15:09.33 | Kalman| | cladhaire: I understand your issues with the Ace release process; that's totally different from the desire for a one-button "update my mods" process. |
| 15:09.35 | durcyn | LWP is your friend. |
| 15:09.39 | kenlyric | or "basic site design" |
| 15:09.40 | cladhaire | Cryect: Well, its hardly build entirely on top of vbulletin.. the mod system is all custom coded by Dolby for the most part |
| 15:09.49 | cladhaire | Kalman|: I do things for me, not for you =) |
| 15:09.58 | *** join/#wowace Ziout (n=chatzill@0x535876d7.aaanxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:10.08 | cladhaire | I make it quite convenient as well |
| 15:10.09 | Cryect | cladhaire: yeah they definately have it overhauled a ton |
| 15:10.15 | cladhaire | having my code on the ace svn would be more difficult for me |
| 15:10.22 | cladhaire | I'd have to monitor commits to make sure monkeys arent' changing my shit |
| 15:10.23 | Cryect | durcyn: shrug I'm lazy :) and I like bitching ;) |
| 15:10.25 | *** part/#wowace Anadale (n=Anadale@gemini3.actis.ru) |
| 15:10.25 | cladhaire | etc. |
| 15:10.38 | Gnarfoz | is anyone here knowledgeable about windows xp's start menu 'most used' list? can batch (.cmd, .bat) files even get in there? or only executables? or only special executables (ones with "manifests")? |
| 15:10.50 | durcyn | Cryect: well, you're getting siht for free |
| 15:10.57 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: I'm pretty sure it's voodoo. |
| 15:11.01 | durcyn | Cryect: shit even. complaining doesn't do much. |
| 15:11.09 | Gnarfoz | voodoo :< |
| 15:11.15 | Matrix110 | Gnarfoz executables only by default i dunno if you can change it atall |
| 15:11.34 | Cryect | durcyn: of course it doesn't, but instead I can choose not to visit the website very often which in the case of wowinterface is like once a month to update a few of my addons |
| 15:11.54 | durcyn | Cryect: why do they need to be updated more than once a month? |
| 15:12.08 | Gnarfoz | you wouldn't happen to know the correct name for this feature, Matrix110? so I can look it up (my google-fu was weak it seems, couldn't find anything) |
| 15:12.11 | kenlyric | one of these days I need to bookmark MSBT, because it always takes me like 3 google searches to find it. |
| 15:12.26 | Kalman| | cladhaire: Not saying there's anything wrong with not using the Ace SVN. I don't care where you host your code. From my standpoint, while wowi isn't bad, it's still less convenient; since your addons tend to change less, it's less of a big deal than the trips to pick up updates to things like DBM or KTM, which tended to see more updates. |
| 15:12.26 | cladhaire | use favorites, then you dont need bookmarks =) |
| 15:12.45 | kenlyric | uh, IE favorites? |
| 15:12.50 | cladhaire | Kalman|: Understood.. thats why I test first, and then release =) |
| 15:12.58 | cladhaire | kenlyric: no, wowinterface favorites. |
| 15:13.00 | Matrix110 | nope Gnarfoz i checked that like 2 years ago when i had this |
| 15:13.05 | cladhaire | mod sites have features like this for a reason =) |
| 15:13.05 | Matrix110 | cant remember |
| 15:13.08 | kenlyric | otherwise, what you suggest would require registering on that evil site. |
| 15:13.21 | cladhaire | ... how is it evil? |
| 15:13.23 | kenlyric | and, I only have one of them, so linking directly makes more sense |
| 15:13.25 | Cryect | registering on wowi isn't evil? |
| 15:13.30 | kenlyric | see above re: coded by howler monkeys. |
| 15:13.38 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: thanks anyway :) |
| 15:13.38 | cladhaire | yea, except its not. |
| 15:13.39 | Cryect | they are howler monkeys? :_p |
| 15:13.56 | durcyn | so write your own godamn script to parse fileinfo.php version string and pull it down yourself. |
| 15:14.12 | Cryect | no but they are evil! |
| 15:14.13 | durcyn | this is all self-serve, bucko |
| 15:14.18 | Cryect | wouldn't want to pull down evil info |
| 15:14.24 | Dustwhisper | so what's the easiest way to create a nice Options GUI/Dialog with ace2? |
| 15:14.34 | kenlyric | I just don't know why they work so hard on such a giant pile of shit. |
| 15:14.37 | durcyn | you DO realize that a ace basically started on wowi? |
| 15:14.43 | kenlyric | *thottbot* has better site design. |
| 15:15.12 | durcyn | shit, it's the only addon site that's friendly to my ncurses console web browser. i dispute your assertions of evil-ness. |
| 15:15.15 | cladhaire | kenlyric: You're being a dick. |
| 15:15.17 | Cryect | thottbot has pretty good design has some issues (ugh with that side bar) :-p |
| 15:15.19 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 15:15.24 | kenlyric | durcyn: and that's why you can still only find some non-svn mods on wowi and no other mod sites. |
| 15:15.26 | cladhaire | unreasonably so |
| 15:15.37 | durcyn | kenlyric: so effing what? |
| 15:16.06 | Cryect | umm you can find a lot of nonsvn mods only on a single addon site |
| 15:16.58 | Cryect | for a while some of my addons were only on curse, for a while only on ui.worldofwar.net but that sure didn't make those sites evil |
| 15:17.09 | Cryect | I mean thats up to the author |
| 15:17.49 | durcyn | cladhaire: on the subject of updates, are any of your addons on a read-only public svn anywhere? |
| 15:17.49 | [Ammo] | it's all up the the author |
| 15:18.02 | Industrial | "non-svn mods" ? |
| 15:18.05 | [Ammo] | and I'm fine with grabbing the few non-ace addons I have from their respective svn |
| 15:18.05 | cladhaire | durcyn: Yes, |
| 15:18.11 | cladhaire | durcyn: and anyone coudl request access to commit as well |
| 15:18.25 | cladhaire | they're just plain and simple googlecode projects |
| 15:18.35 | cladhaire | but i would suggest not using them |
| 15:19.21 | durcyn | oh? i'm trying to get to a single 'svn up *' regardless of svn uri, my own version of wau laziness |
| 15:20.03 | Cryect | Hmm I see ui.worldofwar.net has their own automatic addon updating program now a days (hadn't checked that site in a while) |
| 15:20.20 | cladhaire | durcyn: You could easily svn up.. but that's risky |
| 15:20.27 | cladhaire | you'll get half finished features and broken code |
| 15:20.33 | cladhaire | that's why _releasing_ addons is a good thing. |
| 15:20.39 | [Ammo] | I try and avoid ui.worldofwar.net like the plague, it's the only addon site that trigger my virus checker with keylogger alarms a few times |
| 15:20.54 | Cryect | haha [Ammo] |
| 15:20.59 | kenlyric | yeah, that's a site that's evil for entirely different reasons. |
| 15:21.05 | durcyn | cladhaire: touche. guess i'll get back on that sitescraper script. |
| 15:21.07 | kenlyric | They have very reasonable addon displays. |
| 15:21.14 | cladhaire | durcyn: why do you need a site scraper? |
| 15:21.26 | durcyn | cladhaire: laziness, sir. the virtue of every good programmer, imo. |
| 15:21.29 | cladhaire | register for favorites, you get an email which tells you when an addon is updated.. and you canc lick from there to download it. |
| 15:21.37 | cladhaire | that's more work than registering it as a fav. |
| 15:21.39 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 15:21.41 | Ordog | WAU likes to bug on version check right? |
| 15:21.43 | Cryect | hehe he's fond of them :) |
| 15:21.50 | cladhaire | we have differing versions of laziness i suppose :P |
| 15:21.50 | Cryect | Ordog yes |
| 15:21.57 | durcyn | hey, i could be in here asking you to post it on files.wowace.com. |
| 15:22.11 | cladhaire | and i'd summarily kick you from the channel :P |
| 15:22.13 | cladhaire | and go on a rant |
| 15:22.15 | durcyn | :( |
| 15:22.22 | Cryect | you should just ask cladhaire to email you a copy when he is ready to release |
| 15:22.22 | cladhaire | =) |
| 15:22.26 | *** join/#wowace pub^ (n=pub@h54n7c1o1052.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 15:22.33 | cladhaire | Cryect: and i'd tell you to register for favorites on wowi |
| 15:22.34 | durcyn | Cryect: that's already done by wowinterface |
| 15:22.35 | cladhaire | the site has features |
| 15:22.37 | cladhaire | i use the site =) |
| 15:22.41 | cladhaire | use the features :P |
| 15:22.56 | Cryect | I don't personally want addons emailed to me but I was just suggesting something |
| 15:23.04 | cladhaire | =) |
| 15:23.10 | Cryect | Does it come with a handwritten letter from you though? |
| 15:23.11 | Cryect | :-p |
| 15:23.21 | Industrial | wowace isnt (shouldnt be?) a distribution channel for addons. Its a place to put, update and test your code. |
| 15:23.34 | Cryect | thats the idea |
| 15:23.49 | Industrial | so why does WAU exist |
| 15:24.18 | Cryect | somewhere along the line a lot of people got confused and thought its a great distribution site as well for a lot of addons in various states of development |
| 15:24.26 | [Ammo] | it is a distribution system for addons industrial |
| 15:24.28 | cladhaire | Here's an example: http://wowi.pastey.net/57066 |
| 15:24.29 | Cryect | Shrug makes it easier for people to test my code so I don't complain |
| 15:24.31 | [Ammo] | I don't know under which rock you've been |
| 15:24.35 | cladhaire | it even has a direct link to the file download |
| 15:24.49 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: it shoudln't be =) |
| 15:25.01 | [Ammo] | that's your opinion |
| 15:25.14 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 15:25.16 | Industrial | [Ammo]: im saying it never was and yeah, shoudlnt be |
| 15:25.18 | art3mis | wau exists because some people dont understand svn and the different branches not to metion how to import and export ;P |
| 15:25.19 | cladhaire | but i have rationale behind that |
| 15:25.31 | Ordog | hm is there a way to disable the initial wau version check ? |
| 15:25.33 | art3mis | having wau be one way traffic saved from having to lock down the commits |
| 15:25.41 | cladhaire | its not just a baseless opinion.. and I believe I could thoroughly convince peopel that what we have right now is insanely broken. |
| 15:25.43 | art3mis | ordog: its a tick box in prefs |
| 15:25.49 | cladhaire | there are ways to fix it, but we don't have them right now. |
| 15:25.54 | Ordog | i dont mean the version check on addons |
| 15:26.12 | kenlyric | when I go to curse. I have to hunt for addons. When I go to wowi I have to hunt for addons. When I got to files.wowace.com, boom, addons. |
| 15:26.22 | [Ammo] | it doesn't matter, it's there right now, WAU is there right now, taking it away will cause more problems than keeping it and improving it. |
| 15:26.23 | durcyn | Ordog: no, it phones home regardless |
| 15:26.26 | [Ammo] | and Kaelten is working on improvements |
| 15:26.27 | Cryect | if you set them as favorites for your sites |
| 15:26.32 | *** join/#wowace Ins- (n=sam@103.71-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 15:26.33 | Cryect | you don't have to hunt for your addon pages :-p |
| 15:26.35 | durcyn | Ordog: and there's even a kill bit, apparently. |
| 15:26.36 | alext | WAU for life |
| 15:26.37 | [Ammo] | and we will have stable releases on wowace too |
| 15:26.44 | Industrial | kenlyric: all in one dir without any metadata other then the description on what it does. so you have to HUNT for the right ones |
| 15:26.44 | Cryect | but you hate logging in to evil sites we know :-p |
| 15:26.53 | art3mis | WUU is decent enough once you figure out the addon labelling scheme |
| 15:26.56 | durcyn | WAU is about to be a lot more evil, speaking of evilness. |
| 15:26.57 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: What the hell do you think i'm saying |
| 15:26.57 | Cryect | hey but he can do ctrl+f |
| 15:27.01 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: I never said remove WAU |
| 15:27.02 | Ordog | crap ... always hangs itself at the next tree attempting to do that |
| 15:27.03 | cladhaire | I said fix it. |
| 15:27.07 | [Ammo] | it's being fixed |
| 15:27.09 | cladhaire | yes, i know. |
| 15:27.12 | art3mis | although it seems to behave oddly if you use wau as well |
| 15:27.13 | [Ammo] | and in the mean time it's like this |
| 15:27.14 | cladhaire | so why are you arguing with me? |
| 15:27.28 | Mikk | cause both of you LIKE arguing, wheter or nto you care to admit it? =P |
| 15:27.29 | [Ammo] | I read your [17:25] <@cladhaire> there are ways to fix it, but we don't have them right now. |
| 15:27.32 | Ordog | uhm ok are you guys talking about the same issue? |
| 15:27.32 | [Ammo] | wrong |
| 15:27.35 | [Ammo] | sorry |
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| 15:27.47 | cladhaire | fair enough |
| 15:28.01 | Mikk | there. group huggles now! |
| 15:28.04 | Kalman| | Mikk: Sshhh. I'm at work, this is how I entertain myself. |
| 15:28.04 | Cryect | Mikk who doesn't like arguing! Especially all those people with the @'s |
| 15:28.06 | [Ammo] | no way mikk :p |
| 15:28.14 | Mikk | hehe |
| 15:28.18 | Mikk | Kalman|: soz ;) |
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| 15:28.36 | Kalman| | Mikk: Sokay. If it comes down to it, there's a copy of the Ur-Quan Masters on my hard drive I can fire up. |
| 15:28.51 | Cryect | yeah might as argue with people who won't get pissed off and bitch at your boss |
| 15:28.56 | Mikk | WoW forums are good for mindless chatter and flames too |
| 15:28.59 | Cryect | haha |
| 15:29.12 | cladhaire | I have my irc client set to start the FF5 battle music every time I enter an argument with someone |
| 15:29.12 | Cryect | wow forums have too much stupidity though |
| 15:29.13 | kenlyric | Industrial: the exact same way I used to use worldofwar, sort by update date and see if there are any interesting mods in there :) |
| 15:29.20 | cladhaire | gives me added motivation to do so |
| 15:29.24 | Mikk | haha |
| 15:29.25 | Kalman| | cladhaire: FF5? Heresy! FF1! ;) |
| 15:29.29 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 15:29.30 | cladhaire | meh |
| 15:29.34 | cladhaire | not his best work |
| 15:29.35 | Ordog | do i have to compile wau myself to get rid of the version check or is there already a fix behind some bush? |
| 15:29.39 | cladhaire | I think 5 was some of Uematsu's best work |
| 15:29.48 | Mikk | and there he goes with the argumenting again :P |
| 15:29.55 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:29.55 | [Ammo] | well we could argue over anything really |
| 15:29.59 | [Ammo] | pick a subject, pick a side |
| 15:30.01 | [Ammo] | go :P |
| 15:30.05 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: No we coudln't. |
| 15:30.07 | cladhaire | thats just offensive. |
| 15:30.08 | kenlyric | 4! |
| 15:30.09 | TecnoBrat | the victory song in BW is still my most favourite thing ever! |
| 15:30.09 | Kalman| | [Ammo]: Cheese. |
| 15:30.20 | Cryect | Kalman|: How is Ur-Quan Masters btw? I've been meaning to try that port of SC2 |
| 15:30.20 | [Ammo] | Brie is way better than Rochefort |
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| 15:30.24 | cladhaire | TecnoBrat: meh, its 7 i think.. poopy |
| 15:30.36 | cladhaire | it does |
| 15:30.39 | cladhaire | that's a fact! |
| 15:30.40 | [Ammo] | the FF song in BW is legacy from Tekkub |
| 15:30.42 | durcyn | all software sucks. |
| 15:30.45 | Mikk | sigh damnit |
| 15:30.47 | kenlyric | FF1 is his best work ever because of the system he had to make it on. |
| 15:30.50 | [Ammo] | and it's still funny hearing people on vent who hear it for the first time |
| 15:30.54 | [Ammo] | 'WTF is playing FF music!' |
| 15:31.07 | cladhaire | kenlyric: The SNES was rather limited too :P |
| 15:31.15 | Mikk | mikma did you transfer domains btw? |
| 15:31.19 | kenlyric | quite a bit less. |
| 15:31.19 | Mikk | i noticed i was kicked outta your guild :P |
| 15:31.22 | cladhaire | and his work on FF1 was no more revolutionary than the other composers working on that platform |
| 15:31.26 | Cryect | Hmmm how about the time there was an argument about opengl and directx but no one actually took the directx side in the channel :-p |
| 15:31.29 | mikma | Mikk: yeah we did actually |
| 15:31.35 | cladhaire | fuck DirectX |
| 15:32.03 | Punkie` | But DirectX has this awesome box demo |
| 15:32.04 | Punkie` | :( |
| 15:32.05 | TecnoBrat | cladhaire is in a "fuck X" mood today! |
| 15:32.08 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:32.10 | buddapeople | anyone else here on brsong? |
| 15:32.13 | kenlyric | ff4 had music to break your heart. |
| 15:32.15 | Mikk | X sucks too |
| 15:32.22 | [Ammo] | I never actually played any of the FF games |
| 15:32.23 | art3mis | wait wait wait hold up |
| 15:32.30 | art3mis | directX fucks AND sucks? |
| 15:32.34 | art3mis | what's the problem? |
| 15:32.38 | [Ammo] | the only thing from FF I know is the fact that there's a gazillion episodes, and the music in BigWigs; :) |
| 15:32.41 | art3mis | that sounds perfect ;) |
| 15:32.46 | Cryect | I'm going to go listen to some game remixes which I'm sure should be travesty to someone in this channel |
| 15:32.51 | durcyn | art3mis: yeah, but directx is a dude. |
| 15:32.53 | Mikk | russianmailorderdirectxes.ru |
| 15:33.05 | art3mis | in a dark room a mouth is a mouth ;) |
| 15:33.09 | Mikk | hahahaha |
| 15:33.15 | [Ammo] | ugh |
| 15:33.18 | [Ammo] | evil art3mis |
| 15:33.24 | Cryect | [Ammo]: How abotu the part that the FF have absolutely nothing to do with each other even though they are supposedl sequels |
| 15:33.25 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:33.45 | Mikk | ugh. yeah. hey, art3mis, i have this url i'd like you to watch here... it ends in tubgirl.jpg |
| 15:33.47 | Mikk | that ok? |
| 15:33.48 | kenlyric | who said they were sequels? |
| 15:34.12 | cladhaire | they're chapters in a story |
| 15:34.20 | cladhaire | that have nothing to do with each other |
| 15:34.38 | TecnoBrat | ever read any Tom Clancy? |
| 15:34.43 | TecnoBrat | yea .. just like that :P |
| 15:35.01 | Kalman| | cladhaire: They're seperate stories, not even chapters within one (barring X-2, which, yeah.). |
| 15:35.02 | durcyn | clancy at least had consistent characters and chronology |
| 15:35.17 | cladhaire | rape.lua |
| 15:35.18 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:35.24 | kenlyric | I'd call them books, not chapters. |
| 15:35.41 | TecnoBrat | durcyn, which Clancy are you reading? I'm reading the one who tells 3 separate stories, totally unrelated, and then BAM he somehow joins the 3 story lines into 1. |
| 15:35.48 | Dustwhisper | ah |
| 15:35.53 | Dustwhisper | that reminds me of the episode of house called tree stories |
| 15:35.55 | Dustwhisper | so nice |
| 15:35.59 | kenlyric | And no reason for them to be closely related. We've been broken by the neverending sequels of Dragonlance and Robert Jordan |
| 15:36.00 | buddapeople | just think of how long that book would be if you put all those "chapters" together |
| 15:36.02 | Mikk | TecnoBrat: that's more or less all clancy books tbh |
| 15:36.03 | Gnancy | or Terry Brooks |
| 15:36.11 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, exactly :) |
| 15:36.13 | art3mis | Rouge's Application of Poison: Extreme Edition |
| 15:36.24 | buddapeople | rapee? |
| 15:36.35 | art3mis | rape.lua ;) |
| 15:36.36 | TecnoBrat | is that like misspelled frapee? |
| 15:36.48 | art3mis | ' |
| 15:36.53 | buddapeople | without an f and an e |
| 15:36.56 | kenlyric | raaaape |
| 15:37.14 | kenlyric | it's web2.0 version of pwned |
| 15:37.39 | art3mis | i miss Web 1.0 TE |
| 15:37.49 | art3mis | text edition |
| 15:37.49 | Mikk | plain html ftw \o/ |
| 15:37.56 | Mikk | with <blink> |
| 15:37.59 | Mikk | ^ v important |
| 15:37.59 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 15:38.09 | art3mis | blinking red letters on a yellow background |
| 15:38.10 | durcyn | TecnoBrat: i was referring specifically to the jack ryan series |
| 15:39.46 | TecnoBrat | heh |
| 15:39.51 | Cryect | isn't the jack ryan series like 90% of his fiction books |
| 15:40.02 | nevcairiel | like that yea :P |
| 15:40.22 | nevcairiel | i havent read OpCenter or NetForce. . not sure if he has any part of those |
| 15:40.31 | kenlyric | *shudder* |
| 15:40.32 | TecnoBrat | I don't remember |
| 15:40.34 | Cryect | he does't actually write most of those though |
| 15:40.35 | TecnoBrat | I have read both |
| 15:40.45 | TecnoBrat | but I dont remember what the characters were like |
| 15:40.46 | Mikk | i've read netforce.. kinda liked it |
| 15:40.48 | TecnoBrat | Long time ago |
| 15:40.55 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, I enjoyed it also |
| 15:41.07 | Mikk | the netforce movie tho... barf. |
| 15:41.14 | Mikk | bloody scott bakula ftl |
| 15:41.20 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, you could tell he actually had a technical advisor, most of it made sense to RL |
| 15:41.26 | Mikk | aye |
| 15:41.40 | Mikk | one or few discrepancies perhaps but ... nothing really annoying |
| 15:41.41 | TecnoBrat | Thats my biggest pet peave about tech movies / books |
| 15:41.50 | TecnoBrat | most of the time they are so retardedly wrong |
| 15:41.53 | kenlyric | so, when did wowi align with allakhazham? |
| 15:42.17 | TecnoBrat | ? |
| 15:42.17 | cladhaire | quite some time ago |
| 15:42.18 | kenlyric | or has that been a forever thing? |
| 15:42.18 | Cryect | when they were both bought by the same people? |
| 15:42.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:42] <Cryect> when they were both bought by the same people? <--you mean goldseller #1? :O |
| 15:42.38 | kenlyric | by the same goldsellers? |
| 15:42.47 | cladhaire | kenlyric: ... |
| 15:42.53 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 15:43.28 | cladhaire | believe whatever the fuck you want, its clear you only want to find fault where there is none, while personally insulting the people who bust ass to provide a free service to you. |
| 15:43.35 | cladhaire | And that frankly, I don't like. |
| 15:43.49 | buddapeople | anyone read that article in teh nytimes about goldfarming? |
| 15:43.53 | kenlyric | they're not providing a service to me. |
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| 15:44.18 | cladhaire | kenlyric: then, plainly, shut the fuck up about it. |
| 15:44.19 | Cryect | Its hard to complain about the gold sellers when they support a good portion of the websites we use and someone has to support them if they exist |
| 15:44.27 | kenlyric | and I don't have to "believe" anything. I *know* what allakhazam is. |
| 15:44.33 | cladhaire | really? |
| 15:44.34 | Mikk | just... sigh |
| 15:44.36 | cladhaire | were you involved in the deal? |
| 15:44.36 | kenlyric | I believe I can fucking talk about what I want. |
| 15:44.44 | cladhaire | yeah and i can tell you to stop all i want |
| 15:44.50 | kenlyric | fucking right! |
| 15:44.52 | cladhaire | in fact it creates conflict! yay! |
| 15:45.08 | cladhaire | if you weren't involved in the deal, then you know nothing |
| 15:45.11 | cladhaire | you think you know everything |
| 15:45.23 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r40510 10Postal/Postal.lua: Postal: -fix tremovebyval for Select, etc |
| 15:45.33 | Kalman| | Cryect: It's excellent. It's pretty much a fully functioning integration of the best stuff from PC and 3DO versions. |
| 15:45.53 | Kalman| | I haven't had any bugs/crashes with it on either OS X or XP, so as long as you fee like playing SC2, fire it up. |
| 15:46.02 | TecnoBrat | devils advocate, were you involved in the deal cladhaire? |
| 15:46.13 | cladhaire | TecnoBrat: nope, but I've actually read all literature available on the matter |
| 15:46.16 | cladhaire | its clear he hasn't. |
| 15:46.22 | cladhaire | and more importantly |
| 15:46.24 | Cryect | nice, I only played the Genesis version way back in the day and thought the game was great |
| 15:46.24 | kenlyric | and I have. |
| 15:46.25 | cladhaire | I'm not the one insulting people. |
| 15:46.30 | cladhaire | you've read this post: http://www.vginterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121&highlight=zam |
| 15:46.36 | cladhaire | or the "expose" on the whole "shady deal"? |
| 15:46.39 | cladhaire | *yawn* |
| 15:46.44 | Matrix110 | Well aslong as the Gold Selling Pages dont mess up the pages idc |
| 15:46.57 | Kalman| | Cryect: Was there a Genesis version of SC2? It's a fantastic game, honestly; too bad about SC3 being terrible (and not made by the original developers.) |
| 15:46.58 | cladhaire | when have you ever seen an instance where wowinterface EVER supported gold selling |
| 15:47.01 | kenlyric | no, i've actually not read that. |
| 15:47.03 | cladhaire | the answer is, never |
| 15:47.03 | Matrix110 | NoScript+AdBlock+ ftw |
| 15:47.07 | cladhaire | kenlyric: well whoop de doo.. I have. |
| 15:47.19 | cladhaire | cause I like getting more than one-side of a story before i spread FUD |
| 15:47.21 | kenlyric | I never claimed they were. |
| 15:47.36 | Kalman| | cladhaire: I prefer getting no sides of a story, it makes the FUD easier to come up with. |
| 15:47.47 | cladhaire | Kalman|: aah, so true and refreshing |
| 15:47.49 | cladhaire | kenlyric: Correct, you never did. |
| 15:47.51 | cladhaire | I didn't claim you did |
| 15:47.51 | Matrix110 | Its just a bit uncomfortable if you know that such important pages are owned by something the normal Gamer rejects |
| 15:48.24 | cladhaire | They aren't. |
| 15:48.25 | Cryect | Kalman|: Might have been only the first one, I played it Star Control something thouhg on a genesis :-p |
| 15:48.46 | Kalman| | Cryect: First one I think had a Genesis release, but I never played it. Did it have a story mode? |
| 15:48.49 | Cryect | Kalman|: wasn't my copy (was my aunts) so been a while |
| 15:49.03 | Kalman| | It's such a beautiful combination of resourcegathering/exploration, combat, and storyline. |
| 15:49.15 | Cryect | there was some what of a story though don't recall much of one it was mainly exploring and combat |
| 15:49.41 | Kalman| | Same devteam did a game for the PS1 called The Unholy War which was also excellent. |
| 15:49.43 | cladhaire | kenlyric: I just feel like you're been unfairly bashing wowinterface, and the people who work hard on that site, which contributes a lot to this comunity. I don't like that. |
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| 15:49.57 | cladhaire | I may hate curse, the way it works, the way it looks |
| 15:50.02 | cladhaire | but I dont insult the people who work hard on that site. |
| 15:50.56 | cladhaire | and I'm going to step out for approximately 3.7 minutes to grab lunch and bring it back to my desk |
| 15:50.56 | cladhaire | brb |
| 15:51.05 | kenlyric | well, I'd agree that's a fair assessment. Which is why I insult their site design, and blame the howler monkeys that obviously drive the project. I'm sure the humans that work on it are great folks |
| 15:51.36 | Cryect | I'm really curious what is the basis for this idea of howler monkeys? |
| 15:51.37 | kenlyric | lol, I swear I deleted the sarcastic last line of that post. |
| 15:51.52 | kenlyric | Cryect: when in doubt, I probably got it from the Simpsons. |
| 15:51.59 | Cryect | ah |
| 15:52.32 | Gnarfoz | what the fuck are howler monkeys? :D |
| 15:52.45 | kenlyric | [[howler monkey]] |
| 15:52.46 | trh | i asked that myself too ;) |
| 15:53.03 | Acolar | they're monkeys |
| 15:53.06 | Cryect | that howl |
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| 15:53.18 | trh | never would have guessed that.... ;) |
| 15:53.24 | Gnarfoz | only special monkeys I know about are Trunk Monkeys (tm) |
| 15:53.32 | Cryect | No code monkeys? |
| 15:53.35 | trh | three headed monkeys! |
| 15:53.38 | trh | behind you! |
| 15:53.40 | Gnarfoz | oh right, them too, Cryect |
| 15:53.47 | Gnarfoz | I'm not gonna fall for that one, trh ^^ |
| 15:53.59 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40511 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua: |
| 15:53.59 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:53.59 | CIA-22 | - Vendor: Added "Axe Vendor", "Enchanting Vendor", "Plate Armor Merchant" |
| 15:54.02 | [dRaCo] | the recommended pitbull version has that weird bug when changing raidmembers... there was a command to update the raidframes manually, does anyone remember it? |
| 15:54.04 | trh | Gnarfoz: now you missed them :P |
| 15:54.12 | Gnarfoz | trh: http://www.getdigital.de/images/produkte/t4/t4_swordmaster.jpg . :p |
| 15:54.25 | Roartindon | [dRaCo]: try r39825 |
| 15:54.28 | trh | Gnarfoz: lol |
| 15:54.30 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40512 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: updated zhTW localization |
| 15:54.39 | [dRaCo] | thx, will do, Roartindon |
| 15:55.02 | Lyfe | i have to ask, where do you get r39825? |
| 15:55.09 | Roartindon | [dRaCo]: hmm.. for some reason, that isn't showing up in files.wowace |
| 15:55.23 | Gnarfoz | http://files.wowace.com/PitBull/ Lyfe |
| 15:55.32 | [dRaCo] | uhm, yeah |
| 15:55.37 | Roartindon | one sec, let me check |
| 15:55.41 | Lyfe | interesting. |
| 15:55.49 | [dRaCo] | will PitBull-r39826.zip do, too? |
| 15:55.52 | Gnarfoz | ~seen kaelten |
| 15:55.53 | purl | kaelten <n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 34m 28s ago, saying: 'ya would be good'. |
| 15:56.50 | Roartindon | [dRaCo]: no, that zip onwards has crashing problems |
| 15:57.05 | [dRaCo] | damn. |
| 15:57.08 | Roartindon | [dRaCo]: Ignore my comment, I think I was running 39408, but with later versions of ace libraries |
| 15:57.26 | Roartindon | [dRaCo]: ie. standalone libraries, but with r39408 |
| 15:57.37 | durcyn | it's just the normal blizzard login-into-raid bug, if you can avoid disconnecting in a large raid, newer versions do work. |
| 15:57.40 | hypetech | anybody know a zone that has mobs that are humanoid or beast, but are specifically immune to sheep? something where I can actually perform the cast, but they just come up as immune. |
| 15:57.40 | [dRaCo] | I do that, too... crashes for me, too |
| 15:57.53 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r40513 10Tattle/Gladiator_EU21/EU21.lua: Tattle: updated EU-Todbringer Playerdata |
| 15:57.59 | kenlyric | man, I can't find howler monkey quotes anywhere. Maybe I got it from ALF? |
| 15:57.59 | durcyn | hypetech: go make friends with dragonmaw ascendants. |
| 15:58.01 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x57327e45.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:58.07 | Roartindon | durcyn: No, newer versions for me cause Blizzard hard crashes |
| 15:58.18 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6820.0 ? |
| 15:58.24 | Roartindon | Anything r39826 or later crashes for me in raids, esp when people join groups, or the groups are changed |
| 15:58.33 | Industrial | right its a bot |
| 15:58.35 | Industrial | 3 posts now |
| 15:58.38 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40514 10EnchantingSell/ (. EnchantingSell.toc): |
| 15:58.38 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 15:58.38 | CIA-22 | - embed AceOO-2.0 |
| 15:58.39 | Industrial | hes spamming links with viruses |
| 15:58.51 | Industrial | username PProvosL |
| 15:58.53 | durcyn | Roartindon: bizarre. i've not seen that yet. |
| 15:59.00 | hypetech | durcyn: ty |
| 15:59.06 | [dRaCo] | guess I'll just checkout 39825 from the svn, then |
| 15:59.08 | durcyn | hypetech: oh, and make sure you're naked |
| 15:59.09 | Industrial | [Ammo]: ping |
| 15:59.09 | Roartindon | durcyn: Happened to me 6 times in the first 15 minutes of my magtheridon raid |
| 15:59.13 | TecnoBrat | [dRaCo], the freeze when you login to a large raid bug? where your interface locks up? |
| 15:59.16 | Roartindon | and I crashed when I was assigned to clicking a box too |
| 15:59.20 | pastamancer | Industrial: it's been taken care of |
| 15:59.25 | Industrial | ok |
| 15:59.27 | TecnoBrat | is that definately a blizz bug? |
| 15:59.35 | Roartindon | durcyn: I reverted to an earlier version, and didn't ahve any crash problems |
| 15:59.42 | durcyn | Roartindon: you know, i just realized i'm not even using pitbull raidframes right now. |
| 15:59.52 | Roartindon | TecnoBrat: Well, no addon should be able to crash wow hard.. infinite loop I can understand a script doing, hard crash not |
| 16:00.00 | Roartindon | durcyn: Neither am I |
| 16:00.00 | [dRaCo] | nope, the one were wow crashes with #132 when changing the party, TecnoBrat |
| 16:00.07 | TecnoBrat | oh that one |
| 16:00.17 | kenlyric | I was in a raid just last night (only two people) and it didn't crash. |
| 16:00.19 | Roartindon | durcyn: I only have player/party/focus/target target/focus target |
| 16:00.27 | kenlyric | ah, we didn't change parties around. |
| 16:00.30 | TecnoBrat | I'm talking about the one that locks up the whole interface if you login while you are in a large raid |
| 16:00.30 | durcyn | Roartindon: same. zero crashes with latest rev. |
| 16:00.33 | [dRaCo] | it doesnt crash everytime, but it sometimes does |
| 16:00.38 | TecnoBrat | definately happens with agUF |
| 16:00.42 | [dRaCo] | and it's pretty annoying when it does |
| 16:00.52 | durcyn | Roartindon: what kind of hardware are you running it on? |
| 16:00.58 | Roartindon | durcyn: |
| 16:01.08 | Roartindon | durcyn: umm.. 3200+ Athlon |
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| 16:01.16 | Roartindon | durcyn: NVidia 7850 |
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| 16:01.43 | TecnoBrat | ckknight posted some dumps on the wow forums .. got a blue reply saying they were looking into it |
| 16:01.49 | durcyn | hrm, that should be sufficient. only thing i can think of is maybe blizzard is firing off some wrong events around PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD time |
| 16:01.52 | TecnoBrat | the 132 crash |
| 16:02.02 | durcyn | that faster CPUs are ahead of when they hit |
| 16:02.04 | Roartindon | durcyn: It's nothing to do with entering the world.. I'm in the world fine.. playing |
| 16:02.07 | Roartindon | then hard crash |
| 16:02.24 | Roartindon | As raid leader, I had to move groups around |
| 16:02.31 | Roartindon | and I was crashing every 2nd person I tried to move |
| 16:02.46 | Roartindon | And then the other bug would kick in, so I'd have to disable stuff to be able to log back in |
| 16:03.00 | Roartindon | Then I'd be back in, reenable stuff, then I'd move groups around.. and hard crash |
| 16:03.20 | TecnoBrat | Roartindon, how do you re-enable stuff, using like MCP and then reloading UI? |
| 16:03.26 | durcyn | that is truly strange. obviously a blizzard fuckup, but weird that it would happen on different hardware like that. |
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| 16:03.36 | Roartindon | TecnoBrat: Just /ace2 enable <blah>, /rl |
| 16:03.45 | TecnoBrat | ahhh |
| 16:03.53 | durcyn | i just swapped from an AMD64 to a Core 2 Duo, and haven't had any 132s since - did see a few before that on the amd in 2.1 |
| 16:03.56 | Roartindon | disable grid/pitbull on the addons screen |
| 16:04.05 | TecnoBrat | good to know |
| 16:04.15 | TecnoBrat | I'll have to do the same with ag / sRF |
| 16:04.19 | TecnoBrat | which have the same issue |
| 16:04.53 | Roartindon | Is anyone else noticing a recent creeping of Ace2 memory? |
| 16:04.57 | TecnoBrat | I got d/c during mag once .. and then had to heal using the blizz UI *shudder* |
| 16:05.04 | Roartindon | I'll log in, and it'll slowly climb.. about 0.2kb/sec |
| 16:05.30 | Roartindon | TecnoBrat: ouch :) |
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| 16:06.38 | Cryect | TecnoBrat for a moment I thought you were talking about magmadar |
| 16:06.45 | TecnoBrat | rofl |
| 16:06.47 | Cryect | was like I shudder at thinking of doing magmadar |
| 16:06.56 | kenlyric | I can find "rabid howler monkey" and "pack of howler monkeys", but no source for them. They just seem to be an internet meme that has no source. |
| 16:07.15 | kenlyric | Cryect: I love magmadar. |
| 16:07.26 | Gnarfoz | if you can't pinpoint the source, it will of course be 4chan, kenlyric :p |
| 16:07.31 | Cryect | there was nothing wrong with magmadar himself besides he was in MC :-p |
| 16:07.32 | kenlyric | lies. |
| 16:07.39 | kenlyric | there was internet before 4chan, of course. |
| 16:07.42 | Cryect | but I would say Magmadar sucked more than the beast |
| 16:07.49 | Gnarfoz | 4chan is older than the internet, I bet |
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| 16:08.01 | Cryect | Magmadar would have been 10 times better with a punt |
| 16:08.10 | kenlyric | magmadar was the first "new" boss kill I experienced (since the guild I joined had already done... uh... luci?) |
| 16:08.22 | kenlyric | mag definitely need a punt. Into lava. |
| 16:08.30 | Roartindon | I wonder if I've got permission to commit to AceEvent..... |
| 16:08.58 | vhaarr | Roartindon: No, it's locked. |
| 16:09.00 | Fisker- | fuck this shit |
| 16:09.05 | Fisker- | 4chan went forced_anon again |
| 16:09.05 | kenlyric | all internet memes started on IRC and that got spread around on 4chan. |
| 16:09.06 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Can you commit? |
| 16:09.08 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Did you spot a mem leak? |
| 16:09.09 | vhaarr | Roartindon: yes |
| 16:09.13 | Roartindon | vhaarr: line 496 |
| 16:09.20 | Roartindon | change t = { n = select('#', ...), ... } |
| 16:09.31 | Roartindon | to: t = new(...) t.n =select('#', ...) |
| 16:09.32 | Cryect | if mag had a punt we wouldn't have had all the damn range standing in place slamming their head across the keyboard |
| 16:10.04 | kenlyric | range have the easiest job on mag. After the healers. |
| 16:10.14 | kenlyric | and melee just get to run around. It's fun! |
| 16:10.22 | Cryect | I liked healing melee |
| 16:10.25 | vhaarr | Roartindon: hm |
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| 16:10.30 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 16:10.34 | Cryect | I basically was running in and out of fear range |
| 16:11.01 | kenlyric | Cryect: mag was hard if your healers didn't understand that fear range and healing range was the exact same. |
| 16:11.26 | vhaarr | kenlyric: it's not the same, it depends on your tanks position |
| 16:11.29 | kenlyric | and kept trying to run in and out for fears. |
| 16:11.35 | vhaarr | kenlyric: it is possible to heal the MT out of range of the fear on Magmadar. |
| 16:11.45 | Cryect | thats what he just said |
| 16:11.46 | kenlyric | vhaarr: that's what I meant. |
| 16:11.51 | vhaarr | oh |
| 16:11.57 | vhaarr | "fear range and healing range was the exact same." |
| 16:12.04 | kenlyric | they're both 40 yards, so if it's tanked correctly, you don't ever have to move. |
| 16:12.04 | TecnoBrat | Roartindon, is that what was causing the memory increase you were seeing? |
| 16:12.15 | Roartindon | TecnoBrat: A little of it, not all of it |
| 16:12.20 | kenlyric | unless he burninates you, of course. |
| 16:12.26 | Cryect | Well they weren't the exact same :-p but he was just referring to if you are healing the tank you didn't have to move |
| 16:12.38 | Cryect | but then saying they had stupid healers who didn't understand they could stand still |
| 16:12.39 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I've made the change locally, let me know if you find more, I have to run with it for some time before committing |
| 16:12.40 | Roartindon | TecnoBrat: I chucked in a debug statement for me there, and it was getting called sporadically, not enough to count for the increases I was seeing |
| 16:12.42 | TecnoBrat | Roartindon, I have seen the same thing .. but I can't be sure its Ace doing it, I've got lots of mods |
| 16:13.01 | vhaarr | Roartindon: the change there only affects scheduled events without assigned unique ID's |
| 16:13.13 | vhaarr | Roartindon: i.e. self:ScheduleEvent(function() ... end, X) |
| 16:13.23 | vhaarr | of which there shouldn't be many |
| 16:13.26 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Yep, indeed.. I traced it and found it only firing very sporadically after initial login |
| 16:13.32 | cryogen | kenlyric: actually fear is about 30 yeards or so.. the way i used to explain it to stupid people was "keep backing off till your skills to red and only your heals stay lit" |
| 16:13.34 | vhaarr | right |
| 16:13.36 | Roartindon | vhaarr: zone changes caused a couple |
| 16:13.38 | kenlyric | Cryect: well, that's why they couldn't beat him, because all their healers were either getting feared around and couldn't heal the MT or were out of range and oculdn't heal the MT. |
| 16:13.45 | cryogen | kenlyric: worked surprisingly well.. |
| 16:13.54 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Not too many others. Trying to pin down wherever the other memory leak is |
| 16:13.58 | cryogen | s/to/go/ up there |
| 16:14.01 | vhaarr | Roartindon: excellent |
| 16:14.25 | Roartindon | vhaarr: I have run with that modification you've made for over an hour already with no apparent problems, but longer testing is of course a good thing :) |
| 16:14.31 | kenlyric | cryogen: it always seemed like the safe window was much smaller than that. |
| 16:14.37 | kenlyric | but, it has been a while. |
| 16:14.48 | cryogen | well i used to follow my own advice :) |
| 16:14.56 | cryogen | if SW:P was lit up, i got feared |
| 16:15.01 | cryogen | if it wasnt, i didnt :D |
| 16:15.16 | hypetech | durcyn: bah, the ascendants are invalid target as well :( |
| 16:15.48 | kenlyric | cryogen: that just means my old guild was actually *dumber* than I suspected. |
| 16:15.54 | cryogen | quite possibly :) |
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| 16:16.52 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: got any estimates on how much space the old revision zip files of all the addons on the svn take up? curious ^^ |
| 16:17.01 | kenlyric | nothing quite so uplifting as a priest team full of alts. |
| 16:17.06 | cryogen | it can get distorted if your tank likes to face mag away from the raid.. |
| 16:17.24 | cryogen | if he does that you narrow the range you can actually heal him quite a lot |
| 16:17.26 | Kaelten | you mewan all the old zip files? |
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| 16:18.08 | Cryect | why would your tank face mag away from the raid :-p I mean not like anyone should be in breath range in front of him and its a 360 breath at that |
| 16:18.18 | cryogen | Cryect: some people are weird.. |
| 16:18.29 | hypetech | our tank managed to die from a 22k hit from debris the first time we got mag to that phase |
| 16:18.30 | kenlyric | Cryect: alliance side, when no dwarf priests show up, mag was always an adventure. |
| 16:18.32 | cryogen | also some people read it in one place and then bitch and moan till they get their own way |
| 16:18.42 | Kalman| | hypetech: Wrong Mag. :p |
| 16:18.43 | kenlyric | hypetech: we're talking magmadar :) |
| 16:18.57 | hypetech | ya, I noticed when you started talking about breath, didn't read up enough :p |
| 16:19.02 | cryogen | heh |
| 16:19.33 | Cryect | it really bugged me that corehounds have a 360 degree breath |
| 16:19.39 | kenlyric | one of my top raiding moments ever was doing nef and finding out the hard way that the tank had never learned beserker stance. "Oh, that's why you couldn't tank mag for shit" |
| 16:19.46 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: yes :) |
| 16:19.53 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: I'm up to about 25GB of zips |
| 16:19.54 | cryogen | haha |
| 16:19.54 | Mikk | kenlyric: lal |
| 16:19.57 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 16:19.58 | Cryect | they have 2 heads so maybe that would account for a wider one, but why behind him |
| 16:20.07 | Mikk | he has an ass too? |
| 16:20.10 | kenlyric | but, as it turns out, that wasn't the only reason. |
| 16:20.20 | kenlyric | Vael used to cleave out of his ass. |
| 16:20.26 | kenlyric | mob abilities make no sense. |
| 16:20.33 | Roartindon | kenlyric: Nah, vael's cleave chained |
| 16:20.35 | Cryect | Vael was fun learning about chain cleave |
| 16:20.45 | kenlyric | the wow 3d space is fuzzy, at best. |
| 16:20.46 | Cryect | bam all the clothies fall over |
| 16:20.47 | cryogen | Cryect: i always figured it was because the model is bugged.. you can stand close to him but in actual collision terms you're 'in' him, so in front :) |
| 16:20.49 | Roartindon | so if you had people in a long line from your MT to your healers, they'd all die |
| 16:21.06 | cryogen | so the best thing was to stand a ta point just when your melee attacks become in range |
| 16:21.20 | Cryect | cryogen: thats not model based, its a 5 yd radius from the center for saying you are on all sides |
| 16:21.20 | Roartindon | cryogen: Nah, you were safe as long as no one chained the cleave to you |
| 16:21.26 | kenlyric | eh, I prefer the term cleaving fart more. |
| 16:21.38 | Roartindon | we had one attempt where I got cleaved at hte doorway to the room due to idiotic player positioning |
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| 16:21.52 | cryogen | Cryect: whatever you want to call it :) the model still makes you *look* like you're behind when the game says you arent |
| 16:21.55 | Kaydeethree | oh that was fun. learning vael... |
| 16:22.07 | cryogen | Roartindon: different thing, yes vael's cleave sucks. :) |
| 16:22.09 | Cryect | its fun when attacks that can only come from behind get parried/blocked because you are inside the model too far |
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| 16:22.46 | cryogen | that has to suck |
| 16:24.02 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I think I might have found something |
| 16:24.18 | vhaarr | Roartindon: AceEvent:TriggerEvent, move "local tmp = new()" below the early returns |
| 16:24.33 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Having a look |
| 16:24.33 | vhaarr | Roartindon: i.e. right above 'local AceEvent_onceRegistry = AceEvent.onceRegistry' |
| 16:25.02 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Basically, that would create a new table on each :TriggerEvent, and if no addons had registered for the triggered event, the table would not be cleared. |
| 16:25.17 | Roartindon | yeah.. I see it |
| 16:25.19 | vhaarr | if (not AceEvent_registry[event] ... |
| 16:25.27 | Roartindon | the early out on line 214 |
| 16:25.27 | Roartindon | yeah |
| 16:25.34 | Roartindon | going to try that in my local version |
| 16:25.37 | vhaarr | change that around please, and try it |
| 16:25.38 | Roartindon | a del(tmp) |
| 16:25.44 | vhaarr | what? |
| 16:25.45 | Roartindon | and see if it fixes my increasing mem issues |
| 16:25.48 | vhaarr | no, just move the declaration |
| 16:25.52 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40515 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Typo Fix |
| 16:25.53 | Roartindon | oh, of course |
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| 16:25.57 | vhaarr | it's cleared at the end of :TriggerEvent |
| 16:26.00 | vhaarr | just not if it returns early |
| 16:26.03 | vhaarr | so move it down 5-6 lines |
| 16:26.10 | vhaarr | since it's not needed there anyway |
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| 16:26.47 | ag` | I can't fix that fucking lockup when logging in while in a raid bug |
| 16:26.49 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I have other changes locally here, so I can't tell you exact line numbers, I'm expecting you to figure out where to move it for testing :P |
| 16:26.51 | Roartindon | reloading ui atm |
| 16:26.59 | Roartindon | Yeah, I'm also tracing at the early return |
| 16:27.05 | packetlss | will the pitbull crash bug affect me even if i dont use the raid frames? |
| 16:27.07 | Roartindon | to see what kind of numbers of tables I could have being lossed |
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| 16:27.11 | vhaarr | Roartindon: that will happen a *lot* |
| 16:27.18 | Roartindon | lost* |
| 16:27.23 | vhaarr | Roartindon: mods fire TONS of events that noone cares about |
| 16:27.37 | vhaarr | so I bet you this is the source right there |
| 16:28.57 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Hmm.. interestingly, I get a few hundred traces on login |
| 16:28.59 | Roartindon | and none since |
| 16:29.06 | Roartindon | But it's definitely occuring some of the time |
| 16:29.21 | vhaarr | Roartindon: that's not interesting at all, actually |
| 16:29.29 | Roartindon | the interesting bit was the "none since" |
| 16:29.51 | vhaarr | Roartindon: 99% of ace2 mods are event driven, and would obviously not FIRE any custom events unless something actually happens |
| 16:30.08 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Well, I'm sitting flying high over terrokar forrest atm |
| 16:30.09 | vhaarr | so any other result would surprise me a lot |
| 16:30.14 | vhaarr | right |
| 16:30.15 | Roartindon | With my Ace2 mmory still increasing slowly |
| 16:30.21 | vhaarr | and that would not trigger much custom events |
| 16:30.25 | vhaarr | Roartindon: alright |
| 16:30.29 | vhaarr | Roartindon: get in combat |
| 16:30.32 | Roartindon | yep |
| 16:30.49 | vhaarr | Roartindon: for example if you have ErrorMonster, it triggers a custom ace2 event every time it blocks a message |
| 16:30.57 | vhaarr | which would produce a garbage table |
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| 16:31.04 | vhaarr | and ClosetGnome fires events each time it changes sets |
| 16:31.07 | vhaarr | etc etc |
| 16:31.15 | vhaarr | not to mention bigwigs |
| 16:31.42 | Roartindon | Hmm.. I have neither closetgnome installed, or bigwigs active (solo play atm) |
| 16:31.51 | Roartindon | And I got no traces from that position |
| 16:31.58 | vhaarr | Roartindon: forget about it, go hunt for more |
| 16:31.59 | Roartindon | entering or leaving combat |
| 16:32.02 | vhaarr | but it's a mem leak right there |
| 16:32.09 | Roartindon | vhaarr: It is a mem leak, gonna hunt for more :) |
| 16:32.12 | vhaarr | but leak plugged, start working on next one |
| 16:32.20 | Roartindon | I'm thinking perhaps acecomm |
| 16:32.26 | Roartindon | as my guild is sending carto positions out |
| 16:32.29 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Do you have Cartographer active? |
| 16:32.30 | Roartindon | I'll have a search around |
| 16:32.35 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Yeah |
| 16:32.38 | nevcairiel | acecomm is a bitch .. it will prolly leak somewhere :P |
| 16:32.42 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I bet you that's what doing it. |
| 16:32.47 | vhaarr | what's* |
| 16:32.49 | Roartindon | let me try disabling |
| 16:33.14 | Roartindon | ace2 is +931kb from logging in.. in about 3 minutes :P |
| 16:33.20 | vhaarr | christ |
| 16:33.28 | Saroz | 18:04:08 | <TecnoBrat> I'll have to do the same with ag / sRF |
| 16:33.28 | Saroz | 18:04:12 | <TecnoBrat> which have the same issue |
| 16:33.28 | Saroz | huh |
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| 16:36.22 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/cleanace.bat will now also wipe embedded dirs that has .svn folders in them without complaining btw |
| 16:37.21 | Xuerian | Baaahahahah http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/60286784.html |
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| 16:40.21 | Gagorian | Xuerian: So old! |
| 16:40.28 | Gagorian | But, good, nevertheless |
| 16:40.30 | Xuerian | Gagorian: So? It's funny if you haven't read it yet :p |
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| 16:43.56 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r40516 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Add some Spirit of Redemption support |
| 16:44.02 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40517 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (Cartographer_Vendors.toc addon.lua import.lua): |
| 16:44.02 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 16:44.02 | CIA-22 | updated zhTW localization |
| 16:45.58 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, it might not be sRF doing it .. I dont know for sure... its either agUF or sRF. But if you d/c while in a ... say .. 25 man raid, and then login still in the raid, you will lockup upon loading the game, it starts to load your UI and poof. |
| 16:46.24 | TecnoBrat | All you can do at that point is kill the process |
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| 16:47.32 | nevcairiel | i run agUF and sRF |
| 16:47.32 | vhaarr | Roartindon: HandleMessage in AceComm-2.0 has a "message = Deserialize(message, AceComm.prefixMemoizations[prefix])", probably at line 1671, Deserialize might return a cached table, but HandleMessage never del's 'message', it just returns. |
| 16:47.35 | nevcairiel | and never had that issue |
| 16:47.48 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Yeah, I've been looking at that |
| 16:47.54 | vhaarr | Roartindon: it doesn't return either |
| 16:47.56 | Roartindon | putting in traces in AceComm atm |
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| 16:48.13 | vhaarr | Roartindon: so, at the bottom of HandleMessage, do a |if isTable then message = del(message) end| |
| 16:48.16 | vhaarr | Roartindon: and see what that does |
| 16:48.39 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40518 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua: |
| 16:48.39 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:48.39 | CIA-22 | - BV: Translated missing Vendor Types into deDE |
| 16:48.57 | Punkie` | This guy rocks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA :) |
| 16:49.38 | Roartindon | vhaarr: I had a trace.. if isTable then ChatFrame...... end.. and it's pushing stuff to my screen at an even pace |
| 16:49.43 | Laric | cladhaire is there any function I can call from an addon that will trigger your frame in Lightheaded.. something in the lines of Lightheaded:ShowFrame(questid) |
| 16:49.51 | vhaarr | Roartindon: That would probably be Cartographer. |
| 16:49.55 | vhaarr | Roartindon: So do what I asked, please. |
| 16:49.56 | TecnoBrat | nevcairiel, do you ever d/c while in a raid? |
| 16:49.57 | Dustwhisper | so what's the easiest way to create a nice Options GUI/Dialog with ace2 if you're completely blond? |
| 16:49.57 | cladhaire | LightHeaded:UpdateFrame(title, level, 1) |
| 16:49.57 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Patchin git now, to see if that plugs my memory growth |
| 16:50.00 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Yep |
| 16:50.04 | TecnoBrat | nevcairiel, it doesnt happen on a reloadui |
| 16:50.15 | Saroz | TecnoBrat, it's something else -- people without sRF have that problem, people without ag_uf aswell |
| 16:50.22 | cladhaire | Laric: whats this for? |
| 16:50.29 | Laric | cladhaire and that works even if it is 'attached' to questlog and questlog isnt visible |
| 16:50.41 | cladhaire | Laric: it should, why? |
| 16:50.43 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, people with grid, and putbull also get it |
| 16:50.47 | Saroz | yup |
| 16:50.50 | TecnoBrat | pitbull* |
| 16:50.57 | Laric | cladhaire just wanted to use your frame as it works perfectly |
| 16:51.04 | Saroz | track it down and I'll give you a cookie |
| 16:51.07 | cladhaire | for what addon? |
| 16:51.28 | TecnoBrat | I however, don't know exactly which ones cause it :P I just disable my unit frame/raid frame addons, and I can login again |
| 16:51.28 | Laric | cladhaire my hack of nquestlog as it wasnt updated to work with the new api |
| 16:51.36 | hyperChipmunk | don't you mean 'atatched'? |
| 16:51.41 | cladhaire | ah okay |
| 16:51.59 | cladhaire | you could also detach the frame, and reparent it if you want to |
| 16:52.25 | Saroz | TecnoBrat, just have the leader kick you from the raid |
| 16:52.31 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Still growing, but definitely another memory leak plugged. |
| 16:52.42 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40519 10Cartographer_Trainers/import.lua: |
| 16:52.42 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 16:52.42 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 16:52.52 | Laric | Anyone familiar with GridLayout? |
| 16:53.25 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Actually, I'm just gonna comment out AceComm from my Ace2.toc and see if I still get growing memory.. I'll get a number of addon errors, but I'll see if I stll get growth |
| 16:53.40 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, yea .. last time that hearthed me :( |
| 16:53.48 | Saroz | TecnoBrat, never had that issue |
| 16:53.52 | *** join/#wowace Punkie`` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:54.02 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Yep, without acecomm, there's still growth |
| 16:54.02 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-178-209-201.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 16:54.02 | Roartindon | so it's not (just) there |
| 16:54.04 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, aparantly if you disable your mods from the addons menu, and then enable them ingame, and reloadui |
| 16:54.08 | TecnoBrat | you are fine |
| 16:54.15 | TecnoBrat | easy enough for me to do |
| 16:54.42 | Saroz | fine fine, but still, track it down and there will be cookies! |
| 16:54.56 | sylvanaar | Ordog are you serious? why dont you just update when it does the version check? |
| 16:55.00 | TecnoBrat | well, it doesnt happen on reloadui! |
| 16:55.01 | vhaarr | Mikk: ping |
| 16:55.02 | TecnoBrat | tracked! |
| 16:55.05 | TecnoBrat | rofl |
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| 16:55.34 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 16:55.38 | TecnoBrat | (I'm not smart enough to track it down :P) |
| 16:55.40 | vhaarr | Roartindon: function ChatThrottleLib.PipeBin:Get(), return {} |
| 16:55.48 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Not sure how often that one is invoked, but. |
| 16:55.58 | vhaarr | pinged mikk, we'll see |
| 16:57.00 | Roartindon | vhaarr: I traced there, I didn't get any calls at all |
| 16:57.00 | Mudkipz | How would I go about compiling a list of error messaged that buggrabber collects? |
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| 16:57.15 | Mudkipz | messages* |
| 16:57.26 | vhaarr | Mudkipz: They're stored in the saved vars, if you have that enabled. |
| 16:57.51 | Mudkipz | enabled? |
| 16:58.05 | vhaarr | that's right |
| 16:58.31 | Mudkipz | I didn't you that I had to "enable" saved variables |
| 16:58.42 | Mudkipz | akl;sdfj |
| 16:58.51 | vhaarr | they're enabled by default |
| 16:59.03 | CIA-22 | 03fleetfoot * r40520 10LittleTrouble/ (LittleTrouble.lua LittleTrouble.toc libs/): |
| 16:59.03 | CIA-22 | LittleTrouble |
| 16:59.03 | CIA-22 | - Changed to Waterfall instead of Dewdrop |
| 16:59.14 | Mudkipz | ok. There are quite a few |
| 16:59.48 | Mudkipz | the one under account name or per character ? |
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| 17:01.39 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40521 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 17:01.39 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:01.39 | CIA-22 | - Boss, updated zhTW localization |
| 17:04.18 | Gnarfoz | bah |
| 17:04.33 | Gnarfoz | since when does inviting someone in combat (group of 5, no raid) 132 my client? -.- |
| 17:05.15 | Mudkipz | dude 132 "memory could not be read" has been eating at me for days now |
| 17:05.21 | Mudkipz | it just came out of nowhere |
| 17:05.59 | ulic | I know some people have thought that perhaps it's pitbull, and ckknight has suggested rolling back to an older version. |
| 17:06.04 | ulic | check the topic. |
| 17:06.31 | Roartindon | Hmm.. even with the del(message) thing, Expo is showing .1kb growth per call to :CHAT_MSG_ADDON in AceComm |
| 17:06.34 | Roartindon | Time to investigate |
| 17:08.16 | TecnoBrat | Roartindon, when you are done, you should find out why unitframe addons crash your client when you login in a large raid :PPP |
| 17:08.25 | TecnoBrat | Mr Investigator! |
| 17:08.41 | sag_ich_nicht | currently there are a few things broken in WoW D: |
| 17:09.16 | sag_ich_nicht | video code for some graphic cards causing massive screentear, bad memory managment as well as alt + tab causing crashes, etc. pp. |
| 17:09.27 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40522 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMail2Inbox.toc BulkMailFu.lua BulkMailInbox.lua): |
| 17:09.27 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 17:09.27 | CIA-22 | - Check for tablets registered before unregistering on OnDisable() |
| 17:09.27 | CIA-22 | - AbacusLib added to X-Embeds and OptDeps |
| 17:09.27 | CIA-22 | - FuBar plugin cleaned up, handler for inbox menu set to BMI |
| 17:10.36 | TecnoBrat | sag_ich_nicht, since the last patch eh? |
| 17:11.08 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40523 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail2.toc BulkMailFu.lua): |
| 17:11.08 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-22 | - Check for tablets and dewdrops registered before unregistering on OnDisable() |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-22 | - AbacusLib added to X-Embeds and OptDeps |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-22 | - FuBar plugin cleaned up, handler for inbox menu set to BMI |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-22 | - Update AutoSend Rules tablet after /bm as clear is performed |
| 17:11.16 | sag_ich_nicht | TecnoBrat: no, since 2.1, the screentearing problem is in since 2.0 |
| 17:12.31 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ckknight |
| 17:12.34 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 41m 52s ago, saying: '*'. |
| 17:12.47 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40524 10oRA2/Participant/modules.xml: oRA2: move modules.xml to Participant. |
| 17:13.36 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40525 10oRA2/ (modules.xml oRA2.toc): oRA2: move modules.xml to participant to make funkeh a happy camper |
| 17:13.51 | Gnarfoz | ulic: yeah, of course, but that bug should be related to something else - logging in while part of a raid group, this was a normal party and I just invited someone while in combat - normally their unitframe simply wouldn't show until combat was over |
| 17:14.27 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40526 10oRA2/Participant/modules.xml: oRA2: bugfix |
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| 17:15.16 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: ! |
| 17:15.35 | Arrowmaster | im trying to logon here not type svn up oRA2 --ignore-externals over and over |
| 17:15.52 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 17:16.02 | Arrowmaster | nothing.... |
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| 17:16.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 17:16.42 | ulic | just throwing it out there, as I had some crashing issues after some recent upgrades, just assumed it was related. |
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| 17:17.06 | Arrowmaster | ive still never gotten a #132 |
| 17:17.06 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: anything done on a bulkmail logo? |
| 17:17.26 | Ordog | sylvanaar: i am serious, i got the latest version available on sf installed. THe Problem is that wau just hangs itself up at the version check 8/ |
| 17:17.46 | TecnoBrat | ulic, topic |
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| 17:18.03 | ulic | yep, that's what I said :) |
| 17:18.14 | TecnoBrat | :) |
| 17:18.23 | TecnoBrat | there is two unit frame bugs ATM |
| 17:18.27 | TecnoBrat | the one in the topic |
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| 17:18.43 | TecnoBrat | and the one where you login to the game when in a large raid, and your UI freezes |
| 17:19.12 | Mudkipz | the raid lockup happens to everyone |
| 17:19.18 | Arrowmaster | sadly ive been too lazy to switch from simpleunitframes |
| 17:19.20 | TecnoBrat | the 2nd one seems to be happening to all unit frame addons |
| 17:19.28 | Mudkipz | it's a patch issue |
| 17:19.32 | Killmore | Antiarc ! |
| 17:19.35 | ag` | I've tried to track down what causes the freeze when you login while in a raid |
| 17:19.42 | ag` | but I can't find out why |
| 17:20.22 | TecnoBrat | ag`, yea .. I just heard today that you can disable your unit frame addons, login, re-enable them ingame, and then /rl |
| 17:20.22 | Saroz | cant reproduce, cant fix |
| 17:20.22 | TecnoBrat | and it will be fine. |
| 17:20.25 | TecnoBrat | so at least that is a workaround |
| 17:20.33 | Trancer | Any experienced WoWModelviewer people around? If so, how can I get an image of the size I want instead of being bound to my max resolution/viewport? |
| 17:20.35 | ag` | yes, that works to |
| 17:20.39 | ag` | too* |
| 17:21.14 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: are you the only Omen developer or are there other people? |
| 17:21.30 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40527 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: add some of zonkers changes |
| 17:21.42 | Antiarc|Work | I'm the only developer on Omen. There are several people working on Threat-1.0, which is the brains behind Omen |
| 17:22.07 | Trancer | I see, there is a bar refresh problem with Omen I think |
| 17:22.21 | Antiarc|Work | oh? |
| 17:22.26 | Trancer | If you tell the bars to grow upwards and change target (with different threat) the bars first grow down and then up |
| 17:22.42 | Trancer | It's like being rendered downwards and then modified to be growing upwards |
| 17:22.47 | Trancer | Looks a bit strange |
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| 17:24.37 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40528 10BigWigs/Hyjal/BigWigs_Hyjal.toc: BigWigs: Hyjal: update credits |
| 17:24.51 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40529 10Assessment/ (CoreModules/CombatTime.lua Modules/GroupMembers.lua): Assessment: Fixed error when starting with original empty saved vars |
| 17:25.39 | mikma | Roartindon: planning on adding the CombatTime soon? :) |
| 17:25.53 | Roartindon | mikma: huh? combattime is in there |
| 17:25.59 | Roartindon | mikma: It was the first module written |
| 17:25.59 | sylvanaar | Ordog get a lan trace? |
| 17:26.19 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: understand my explanation? If not I can try to screenshot it (if I am rapid enough) |
| 17:26.29 | mikma | Roartindon: then why do i get a whine at the start that it's not working? :) |
| 17:26.43 | Roartindon | mikma: Hmmm.. update and try? |
| 17:26.45 | Antiarc|Work | Trancer: I think I know what you mean - I think I've seen that |
| 17:26.59 | mikma | Roartindon: my version was latest until that 40529 commit |
| 17:27.48 | bigzero | am i the only one that's having problems with BulkMail2? |
| 17:28.17 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: so far as I know, yes |
| 17:28.34 | *** join/#wowace hypetech (n=hypetech@66.83.192.147.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 17:28.58 | mikma | Roartindon: Assessment: Invalid tag: combattime |
| 17:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | onenable not running isn't a bulkmail issue |
| 17:29.15 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, grrr...but all other mods work |
| 17:29.22 | Roartindon | mikma: hmm.. you must have changed the tag.. should be combatDuration |
| 17:29.22 | hyperChipmunk | if onenable ran incorrectly, it would be a bulkmail issue =P |
| 17:29.34 | Roartindon | the combattime module provides a number of tags.. combattime was removed a week ago.. |
| 17:29.39 | Roartindon | let me check if my code still references it |
| 17:29.40 | mikma | Roartindon: haven't touched it in any point :O |
| 17:29.48 | hyperChipmunk | nothing in your bugsack? |
| 17:29.53 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, nope |
| 17:29.56 | hyperChipmunk | do you have errors turned off? |
| 17:30.48 | Roartindon | mikma: do you have !!!Tag Error!!! showing up anywhere? |
| 17:31.00 | mikma | Roartindon: nope, only that line when i login / rl |
| 17:31.16 | Roartindon | mikma: Hmm.. do you show fubar text? |
| 17:31.42 | mikma | Roartindon: not installed |
| 17:32.27 | Roartindon | mikma: Hmm.. try wiping SVs? |
| 17:32.33 | sylvanaar | linky to a blp viewer? |
| 17:32.44 | mikma | Roartindon: ok |
| 17:33.27 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: also on Omen: I just had it mix up class colors for me oO one druid was colored like the mage in the group, the other druid was colored like the warrior, and those two had druid colors oO |
| 17:34.03 | Silviu- | Gnarfoz same thing happand to me too ;) |
| 17:34.07 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, seen that before, haven't nailed it down yet |
| 17:34.09 | Silviu- | But not all time |
| 17:34.12 | Gnarfoz | alright :) |
| 17:34.13 | Antiarc|Work | I think it's due to a party being switched around |
| 17:34.15 | Antiarc|Work | But I'm not positive |
| 17:34.30 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Hooooolllyy.... 7.5megs for Bulkmail2inbox? *wince* |
| 17:34.35 | *** join/#wowace cotangent (n=chatzill@70.59.158.157) |
| 17:35.07 | hyperChipmunk | wtf? |
| 17:35.10 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 17:35.23 | Peoii | Yea... then I force a GC, and it's all gone. |
| 17:35.44 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, yeah i have errors turned on |
| 17:36.07 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: When I open up my inbox, sometimes there's also a bunch of entries at the bottom which list "Cash Only", yet I have no such entries. (double checked) |
| 17:36.10 | TecnoBrat | oh crap |
| 17:36.12 | TecnoBrat | thats wrong |
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| 17:36.34 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: and if you put a debug print in OnEnable, it doesn't show? |
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| 17:36.45 | hyperChipmunk | /bulkmail standby? |
| 17:37.10 | *** join/#wowace Kody- (n=nope@69.109.103.158) |
| 17:37.11 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Furthermore, retrieving my old Gmail mail (with text in the body) using the "Open Selected" method in BulkMail2Inbox also forces it to pause every single open. I have to close and re-open my mailbox for it to grab the next one. |
| 17:38.01 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Protractor lets you see CPU usage data on individual functions |
| 17:38.04 | hyperChipmunk | i never claimed my addon didn't suck |
| 17:38.12 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: yea! like pcall! |
| 17:38.33 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 17:38.35 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: ooh cool |
| 17:38.53 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: my tetris is suckign quite a bit of CPU and I'd like to figure out why :) |
| 17:39.13 | Saroz | hrrrm is there a setting to make the mana bar in aguf smaller? |
| 17:39.14 | hyperChipmunk | expo has an excellent function profiler, too |
| 17:39.47 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: You bashing pcall! |
| 17:40.04 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: yes |
| 17:40.04 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: I suspect that one or more of those three problems are related |
| 17:40.18 | Cryect | they really need to fix it so pcall time gets attributed right |
| 17:40.50 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect that pcalls actually get executed in a separate Lua state |
| 17:40.58 | Cryect | I think you're right |
| 17:41.11 | Cryect | but still be nice if it can get attributed back right |
| 17:41.33 | Cryect | no reason that state can't be profiling and say hey this function was called |
| 17:41.47 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: can you give me a screenshot of your inbox frame? |
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| 17:44.14 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Sure. But um, want it with the cash only (erronious)? or without? Cause it's not showing them atm. Typically only happens at weird intervals. |
| 17:44.19 | Saroz | can you change the height of the manabar in pitbull? |
| 17:44.31 | hyperChipmunk | i was kinda hoping for one with the cash bug =P |
| 17:45.00 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: next time I get one, I'll SS it for ya ;) |
| 17:45.04 | Silviu- | Saroz yes |
| 17:45.18 | Saroz | might have to switch then |
| 17:45.26 | Mudkipz | maybe someday blizz will realize that the default mailbox interface is teh suck |
| 17:45.40 | Saroz | how's the performance of pitbull? |
| 17:45.54 | Saroz | /dogtag |
| 17:46.00 | hyperChipmunk | does it use 7.5MB when you don't have the bug? |
| 17:46.03 | Mikk | Mudkipz: Blizzard doesn't really approve of mail muling either |
| 17:46.09 | Silviu- | I`m ok with it Saroz |
| 17:46.20 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Nope, drops down to 293k |
| 17:46.36 | hyperChipmunk | that's comforting, at least =) |
| 17:46.40 | Mikk | vhaarr: ping |
| 17:46.44 | Mikk | or pong trather |
| 17:46.49 | trh | what's the best way to get the current's screens maximum X and Y ? |
| 17:47.03 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: Nah, I'm laming around fishing for ideas |
| 17:47.12 | hyperChipmunk | =) k |
| 17:47.19 | Mikk | it about to go live? |
| 17:47.19 | Kaelten | bah download counts are bugged on curse |
| 17:47.23 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, bm2 starts off suspended, which I assume is what you want since is LoD, right? |
| 17:47.27 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Hrm, lower than that.... just a sec. (make that like less than 100k...) |
| 17:47.31 | Mudkipz | Mikk, mail muling? |
| 17:47.32 | hyperChipmunk | live? |
| 17:47.41 | hyperChipmunk | addons can do that? |
| 17:47.45 | Mikk | Mudkipz: keeping lost of shit in your mail and bouncing it back and forth |
| 17:47.50 | Kaelten | Mikk: is what about to go live? |
| 17:47.51 | Mudkipz | oh |
| 17:47.52 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: not afaik |
| 17:47.57 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40530 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: |
| 17:47.57 | CIA-22 | GraphLib - Performance improvements in realtime graphs for when it shouldn't be |
| 17:47.57 | CIA-22 | doing stuff (example if the frame update was too soon or there has been no data |
| 17:47.57 | CIA-22 | for a while). Some minor issues with really large time between updates (example |
| 17:47.57 | CIA-22 | alt tabbing) but will fix that later |
| 17:48.03 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: bulkmail |
| 17:48.09 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:48.09 | hyperChipmunk | i tasked him with making an icon |
| 17:48.10 | Cryect | Man you know I'm half asleep when I'm rambling in commit messages |
| 17:48.10 | Kaelten | ah |
| 17:48.14 | Mudkipz | I do a lot of auctionhouse so yeah... |
| 17:48.23 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, ? |
| 17:48.40 | hyperChipmunk | it oughtn't be |
| 17:48.44 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: nono, no rush |
| 17:48.46 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 17:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | just curious if you'd settled on an idea or something; the current icon is fine too |
| 17:50.14 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Ok, so here's some more info... it's actually using about 71k. I open my inbox, and it jumps to 296k, and stays there until GC. If my mailbox lags at all, I get the "Cash Only" Entries, which are actually some other mail just not getting recognized fast enough I think, and then it jumps to the 7.5megs give or take :) |
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| 17:50.52 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, so what could be causing it to start off as suspended? any ideas? |
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| 17:51.22 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r40531 10BigWigs/Outland/ (Doomwalker.lua Kazzak.lua): BigWigs: Fixed zhTW for Kazzak and added zhTW for Doomwalker.lua(incomplete) |
| 17:51.46 | Ordog | sylvanaar: took about 2 minutes to start up, trace looks normal, sf ack a bit much delayed tho. Guess i should get some patience ^^ |
| 17:51.58 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: would it be terribly traumatic to ask you to try it with a clean SV? |
| 17:52.15 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: I came to the lag conclusion after I remembered seeing 1 entrie on this character I'm on right now as I signed on, and looking in my inbox, there was 1 entry that wasn't showing in BulkMail |
| 17:52.42 | hyperChipmunk | well, it doesn't show non-item/non-cash mail |
| 17:52.55 | NeoTron | so is it confirmed that Moragrim is affected by scalding water if you kill lurker first? |
| 17:53.03 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: I don't get any of that. The mail in question was a Sanguine |
| 17:53.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's some serious lag you got goin there =p |
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| 17:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | lemme see if i can add more conditions for refreshing the tables |
| 17:54.37 | hyperChipmunk | so it happens after the dust has settled |
| 17:55.03 | hyperChipmunk | i have it going on MAIL_INBOX_SHOW atm |
| 17:55.11 | hyperChipmunk | are you using a load manager? |
| 17:55.32 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Such as? (probably not) |
| 17:55.39 | Xuerian | Peoii: ForkliftGnome |
| 17:55.43 | Peoii | nyet |
| 17:55.44 | hyperChipmunk | ForkliftGnome, SupplyAndDemand |
| 17:55.45 | vhaarr | Mikk: in CTL, why does function ChatThrottleLib.PipeBin:Get() return a new table if not self.list? |
| 17:55.55 | Xuerian | the community has gravitated to loadmanagers again without telling anyone |
| 17:56.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea, kerg hacked on some loadmanager support |
| 17:56.21 | Xuerian | so they're all "can has loadmanger?!" and you're all "wtf like can't has!!" |
| 17:56.25 | hyperChipmunk | i don't actually know what it does =x |
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| 17:57.52 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40532 10Assessment/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Assessment: Added ForceIterateUpdateDataTables that ignores paused status and in combat. Made group member update bypass those checks. |
| 17:58.27 | Primer | Does the WoW UI API allows for socket communication? |
| 17:58.36 | Ominous | Adirelle, could you add an option to do a ktm version check into TTK |
| 17:58.40 | Shirik | define socket communcation |
| 17:58.47 | Shirik | connecting to another server? no |
| 17:58.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea right |
| 17:59.00 | Primer | Shirik: yeah, that's what I mean |
| 17:59.00 | hyperChipmunk | none at all |
| 17:59.05 | hyperChipmunk | you can't open file sockets either |
| 17:59.06 | Shirik | very no |
| 17:59.09 | nomenquis | hi, i just reinstalled a lot of addons and now i wow crashes on startup (looks like some addon goes nuts). -> would someone have a good idea on how to find out which addon might be causing this other than doing a bisection? |
| 17:59.12 | Primer | I didn't think so |
| 17:59.15 | Primer | but I had to ask |
| 17:59.29 | Shirik | nomenquis: Perform a binary search |
| 17:59.32 | Shirik | that's all you can do |
| 17:59.39 | Shirik | however, first, try disabling clearfont |
| 17:59.41 | Xuerian | Primer: Bahahahahahahahaha |
| 17:59.42 | nomenquis | that's what i meant with bisection ^^ |
| 17:59.43 | Shirik | which I have heard has had problems |
| 18:00.03 | Primer | Xuerian: yea yea, like I said, I just wanted to be sure :) |
| 18:00.04 | Xuerian | Primer: You're like "Can has stdio?!" and blizz is all like "wtf can't has! kthxbai". |
| 18:00.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:00.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | nomenquis, what type of crash? |
| 18:00.23 | Shirik | nice. |
| 18:00.36 | nomenquis | dunno, wow just seems to segfault |
| 18:00.43 | nomenquis | or whatever it's called in windows terms :) |
| 18:00.56 | nomenquis | but, thanks a lot for the clearfont tip, clearfont2 was the culprint |
| 18:01.02 | Primer | so there's pretty much no way to get anything real time from the client off onto the disk or to a pipe? |
| 18:01.08 | hyperChipmunk | you got it |
| 18:01.11 | Primer | I mean, flushed in real time |
| 18:01.14 | hyperChipmunk | correct |
| 18:01.28 | Kirkburn|sleep | nomenquis, with default settings? |
| 18:01.28 | Primer | guess they thought of everything |
| 18:01.29 | Peoii | That'd be all bot like. |
| 18:01.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | It can crash if you try fonts that WoW doesn't like |
| 18:01.46 | Primer | hyperChipmunk: but there is a way to get stuff to disk on logout/exit? |
| 18:01.53 | nomenquis | no, had some oooold settings in there, will delete the saved vars for it |
| 18:01.55 | hyperChipmunk | SavedVar |
| 18:02.02 | Primer | hyperChipmunk: ok, thanks |
| 18:02.14 | hyperChipmunk | they get written on UI reload and logout |
| 18:03.04 | NeoTron | Xuerian: practicing your online speak? |
| 18:03.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40533 10Assessment/Assessment.lua: Assessment: Removed some redundant assertions |
| 18:03.29 | nomenquis | kickburn, deleting the lua file with the saved variables should be enough to reset the clearfont settings, isn't it? |
| 18:03.29 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: next time you get the cash thingy, do a /run CheckInbox() and tell me if it clears it up |
| 18:03.37 | Kirkburn|sleep | nomenquis, yeah, should do |
| 18:03.45 | hyperChipmunk | nomenquis: only if you're logged out |
| 18:03.48 | Peoii | k |
| 18:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | otherwise, when you reload, it'll get re-written |
| 18:03.55 | nomenquis | yea, of course |
| 18:04.11 | Xuerian | NeoTron: No, practicing my www.lolcode.com |
| 18:04.21 | hyperChipmunk | or you can be ninja like me and spam rm while it reloads |
| 18:04.22 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oh, also, do you do the "Step Two" thing? |
| 18:04.28 | nomenquis | bamm |
| 18:04.36 | nomenquis | segfaulted right away |
| 18:04.54 | Primer | the memory could not be "read"? |
| 18:05.00 | nomenquis | strange thing thou, a lot of fonts are already drawn at the time |
| 18:05.01 | Primer | windows is funny |
| 18:05.03 | nomenquis | yea, segfault |
| 18:05.28 | Primer | "Signal 11 encountered" probably would make windows users cringe |
| 18:05.39 | hyperChipmunk | that makes me cringe =\ |
| 18:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | means my X is borked |
| 18:06.01 | nomenquis | rofl |
| 18:06.01 | hyperChipmunk | usually =P |
| 18:06.26 | nomenquis | so, anything else i might be able to do besides simply disable it? |
| 18:06.28 | Peoii | segfault isn't near as scary as seeing the words "Core Dumped" at the end... |
| 18:06.31 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r40534 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: bugfix |
| 18:06.31 | Ordog | sylvanaar: The more often i run wau the shorter the "hanging" seems to be, around 25 secs now i guess thats only the index file beeing parsed? :) still getting version check errors when it takes longer tho, but np for me! guess i was a bit sensitive about the white box (im on xanthine alkaloid compounds ;P) |
| 18:06.36 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, did you remove the ability to remove the icon from fubar? |
| 18:06.47 | hyperChipmunk | nomenquis: find out which font is causing it |
| 18:06.53 | Kirkburn|sleep | nomenquis, not that I know of :( You could try CF1? |
| 18:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: not exactly; you can uncheck it from the fubar mail menu |
| 18:07.15 | hyperChipmunk | there's a kind of weirdness i can't figure out |
| 18:07.19 | nomenquis | sigh, that means restarting like 100 times ^^ |
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| 18:08.13 | nomenquis | can i just delete fonts in the font subdir or will that cause even more headache? |
| 18:08.16 | hyperChipmunk | either you have the hide plugin option and duplicates of profiles/about/enable, or you get a nice clean profiles/about/enable and no hide plugin |
| 18:08.43 | hyperChipmunk | so right now, i'm going with the latter, since you can still hide it via the fubar main menu |
| 18:09.34 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: did clearing SVs fix it? |
| 18:09.38 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, alright, deleting SV's seems to have helped it |
| 18:09.39 | hyperChipmunk | the disabled thing? |
| 18:09.53 | bigzero | seems to be working fine atm |
| 18:10.03 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 18:10.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | nomenquis, on first loading, afaik, it should only ever touch 1 set of fonts (the defaults) |
| 18:10.25 | hyperChipmunk | yea for some reason i recently stopped being able to write SVs |
| 18:10.33 | hyperChipmunk | until deleting it |
| 18:10.56 | hyperChipmunk | i have no idea why, but i just got the same settings over and over after reload no matter what changes i made during the session |
| 18:11.13 | hyperChipmunk | i thought it was just the autosend list, but apparently it was everthing |
| 18:11.15 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40535 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Options.lua Prototype.lua): BigWigs: some optimizations using upvalues, hopefully nothing explodes |
| 18:11.22 | hyperChipmunk | since you had the same thing with your standby setting |
| 18:11.27 | hyperChipmunk | glad you got it fixed though >8) |
| 18:11.28 | bigzero | yeah I noticed similar stuff going on |
| 18:11.39 | hyperChipmunk | sorry i made you delete the SV =\ |
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| 18:11.57 | sbu | hmm Daemona |
| 18:12.21 | sbu | whats the issue with lurker adds "jumping" around? |
| 18:12.31 | nomenquis | okay, still crashes, with ZERO fonts in the fonts folder |
| 18:12.44 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, it's ok...I didn't have anything special set up for BM anyway |
| 18:12.49 | sbu | melee add, swims to the platform, 2s later its gone and reappears on somewhere else... |
| 18:13.03 | Daemona | sbu no idea |
| 18:13.05 | durcyn | sbu they don't jump, they just swim really really really fast. |
| 18:13.11 | Daemona | bad pathfinding algorithm i guess |
| 18:13.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea, if it makes you feel better, I had to do it, too, and i probably have a more complex set-up than anyone =p |
| 18:13.20 | Daemona | usually they spawn at the same places and get insta-sheeped ;) |
| 18:13.33 | sbu | hmmhm yep but it just disappeared |
| 18:13.35 | durcyn | if you see them hop between platforms, it's because some yutz stole aggro |
| 18:13.43 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, one more thing, lines 360 and 361. You call OpenAllBags() twice...that doesn't make any sense unless you want to close all bags, but I would assume that you want to open them up |
| 18:13.43 | sbu | hmmm |
| 18:13.48 | sbu | melee adds hop? |
| 18:13.49 | nomenquis | krikburn, any other ideas? |
| 18:13.52 | Antiarc|Work | You know, the output from luac -l is very interesting. |
| 18:13.54 | durcyn | sbu: aye |
| 18:13.58 | sbu | but its on evade for some seconds |
| 18:14.00 | sbu | 4-5 |
| 18:14.04 | durcyn | sbu: it works like a blink |
| 18:14.12 | durcyn | oh, well, evade means someone's in the water iirc |
| 18:14.42 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: that's a holdover from when i used EnumerateFrames to capture the container frames |
| 18:14.43 | mikma | Roartindon: deleted sv and updated to latest = no nag. |
| 18:15.04 | hyperChipmunk | they had to be drawn at least once for EnumerateFrames to catch them |
| 18:15.11 | sbu | durcyn: hm interesting :o thank you |
| 18:15.13 | hyperChipmunk | OpenAllBags doesn't actually do what it says it does |
| 18:15.18 | Kirkburn|sleep | nomenquis, none, sorry :/ |
| 18:15.18 | hyperChipmunk | if you have one bag open, say |
| 18:15.21 | hyperChipmunk | it'll close it |
| 18:15.28 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, actually it does work properly |
| 18:15.32 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, i tested it |
| 18:15.32 | hyperChipmunk | then you call it again, and it will open |
| 18:15.37 | nomenquis | kirkburn, too bad, the original fonts really suck :( |
| 18:15.52 | Kirkburn|sleep | You could try *just* doing "Step Two"? |
| 18:15.54 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, the only time it closes bags is if all are open. in all other cases it opens all bags |
| 18:16.09 | hyperChipmunk | well, it didn't used to; either way, it's not needed anymore |
| 18:16.25 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, idk, leaving one of them is an ok idea imo |
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| 18:16.49 | hyperChipmunk | well, the idea was to not screw with other addons that did it |
| 18:17.02 | nomenquis | kirkburn, i guess i'll wait till someone fixes this bug :) |
| 18:17.04 | hyperChipmunk | i did it twice to restore whatever it was that they did |
| 18:17.18 | hyperChipmunk | if i add it, then it'll close 'em if another addon opens 'em |
| 18:17.19 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 18:17.25 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40536 10BigWigs/Hyjal/ (Anetheron.lua Winterchill.lua): |
| 18:17.25 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 18:17.25 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.53 | nomenquis | btw, would anyone here know if it is possible with arkinventory to 'filter' for a specific outfit from outfitter? |
| 18:17.57 | Kirkburn|sleep | nomenquis, =( Wish I could help more, but I've never had the crash bug |
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| 18:18.29 | Kirkburn|sleep | I apologise to your eyes :P |
| 18:18.33 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:18.35 | nomenquis | lol |
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| 18:19.04 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40537 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 18:19.04 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 18:19.04 | CIA-22 | - removed unnecessary OpenAllBags() double-call, since it isn't needed anymore |
| 18:19.13 | Lyfe | i don't believe arkinventory knows anything about outfitter. |
| 18:19.44 | nomenquis | i don't think so either, but i'd love to be able to filter them anyway :) |
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| 18:21.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:21.07 | nomenquis | on another note, does someone know if wau handles 'special cases' like the stuff in the skinme folder of skinner correctly? or would i have to copy all the templates again after updating skinner? (in case something changed) |
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| 18:22.28 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:22.33 | hyperChipmunk | you blow |
| 18:22.39 | Josh_Borke | hyperChipmunk: you swallow |
| 18:23.13 | TheKarn | anyone using the SanityItemCache in branches? |
| 18:24.35 | Antiarc|Work | Shouldn't need to |
| 18:24.38 | Antiarc|Work | It's been merged to trunk |
| 18:24.43 | TheKarn | my change last night? |
| 18:24.46 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40538 10CooldownTimers2/ (CooldownTimers2.toc Locale-koKR.lua): |
| 18:24.46 | CIA-22 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 18:24.46 | CIA-22 | - Added translation koKR by 7destiny |
| 18:24.48 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, heh, no |
| 18:25.08 | TheKarn | i put it in branch because it was a ~kinda~ major change |
| 18:25.16 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, certianly |
| 18:25.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'll try to test/approve/merge it tonight |
| 18:25.28 | TheKarn | k |
| 18:25.42 | TheKarn | i tried to implement it so it matched the existing syntax |
| 18:25.52 | Adirelle | aah, X-chat 2.8 comes with a new GTK, which doesn't fuck up the fonts ! |
| 18:25.52 | TheKarn | so hopefully everyone's current filters will still work 100% |
| 18:27.19 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40539 10VanasKoS/modules/WarnFrame.lua: VanasKoS: changed the info tooltip to be displayed on the other side if it'd not be completly visible otherwise. |
| 18:27.28 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:712: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 18:27.56 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Happened when summoning a pet? |
| 18:28.13 | Gagorian | It's possible, didn't notice when it appeared |
| 18:28.35 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40540 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: Threat now updates out of combat |
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| 18:33.08 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r40541 10MementoMori/: MementoMori: Created folder remotely |
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| 18:34.18 | sbu | Saroz: whats that? :o |
| 18:34.19 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, interesting name |
| 18:34.23 | TecnoBrat | what does it do? :) |
| 18:34.28 | sbu | giev screenshot ;o |
| 18:34.31 | Saroz | Takes screenshots of dead bosses |
| 18:34.34 | Saroz | nothing big |
| 18:34.54 | Saroz | calm down |
| 18:34.54 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 18:34.54 | sbu | mh |
| 18:34.54 | Saroz | but ye, name fits nicely |
| 18:34.59 | NeoTron | Saroz: what's wrong with "Print Screen"? :P |
| 18:35.03 | Saroz | I forget that |
| 18:35.06 | Cryect | he forgets? |
| 18:35.06 | Saroz | every single time |
| 18:35.17 | TecnoBrat | I would possibly use that mod .. hmmm |
| 18:35.24 | Saroz | and it snaps it once you exit combat |
| 18:35.29 | Saroz | so no lag once the boss dies |
| 18:35.34 | Saroz | and no dual screenshots on high king etc |
| 18:35.39 | Saroz | :D |
| 18:35.47 | hyperChipmunk | now you need to make an extension addon that touches up those shots and adds special effects and call it MomentoMori-Arty |
| 18:35.56 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: http://mikk.cjb.net/b.html ? |
| 18:36.00 | Mikk | say no if you think it sucks |
| 18:36.07 | Mikk | not one of my more inspired works >.< |
| 18:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 18:36.11 | Mikk | thanks |
| 18:36.16 | hyperChipmunk | looking now =) |
| 18:36.21 | Mikk | sigh =) |
| 18:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.34 | hyperChipmunk | that's nifty |
| 18:36.43 | hyperChipmunk | don't like the colors though |
| 18:36.46 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 18:36.51 | hyperChipmunk | maybe if i see it in-game |
| 18:36.54 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40542 10VanasKoS/modules/ (DefaultLists.lua LastSeenList.lua PvPStats.lua): VanasKoS: - Updated localization koKR |
| 18:36.55 | Cryect | ifitwasa solid color |
| 18:36.58 | Cryect | it be better |
| 18:37.14 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, what does the highlighting when you shift-click on mail with money mean? |
| 18:37.15 | Cryect | tricolors seems kinda strange |
| 18:37.18 | TecnoBrat | I used to have a mod that recorded BG scoreboards, so I could look at them later. I don;t think its been updated in months (and was broken). Anyone know of such a mod? |
| 18:37.30 | TecnoBrat | I'd be really interested for Arena scoreboards also |
| 18:37.42 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: it shouldn't highlight |
| 18:37.46 | hyperChipmunk | shift-click takes |
| 18:37.51 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r40543 10MementoMori/ (MementoMori.lua MementoMori.toc): MementoMori: Initial Commit - Takes screenshot of boss kills |
| 18:37.55 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40544 10XLoot/localization.koKR.lua: XLoot: Updated localization koKR |
| 18:38.00 | hyperChipmunk | you have to click without modifiers to hilight for 'take selected' |
| 18:38.05 | Adirelle | Saroz: really ? :p |
| 18:38.14 | Saroz | yus! |
| 18:38.33 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: can you make some separation between the | and 3 parts of the B? |
| 18:38.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40545 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - everything uses the ABF layout now, no option to change. |
| 18:38.54 | hyperChipmunk | so it's a B with an m |
| 18:39.15 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40546 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: RatingBuster: Updated localization koKR |
| 18:39.28 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, it's highlighting for me...regular click just opens the mail. When I shiftclick on something that has an item, it takes it, but not on something with just money in it |
| 18:39.44 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: you have some other mailmods installed? |
| 18:39.52 | hyperChipmunk | or anything that might be conflicting? |
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| 18:40.08 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, uh, actually nvm...he took the money and left the enpty mail in the mailbox |
| 18:40.10 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: doesn't have to be real obvious, but it'd be one of those 'neat logo things' |
| 18:40.26 | hyperChipmunk | oh, yea; because money has to have a subject |
| 18:40.34 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't get autodeleted |
| 18:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 18:40.45 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, and then shift-clicking empty stuff highlights it? |
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| 18:40.52 | hyperChipmunk | forget the part about having a subject |
| 18:40.59 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: O, sigh, I didn't even catch that bit |
| 18:41.10 | Mikk | Right.. redesigning from scratch then :P |
| 18:41.16 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: ? |
| 18:41.27 | Mikk | the bit about how it's both a B and an M |
| 18:41.45 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40547 10myBindings2/myBindings2.toc: |
| 18:41.45 | CIA-22 | myBindings2 : |
| 18:41.45 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh, I just thought that'd be nifty; but if you wanna go with it, that'd be cool =) |
| 18:42.41 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: not sure what you mean |
| 18:42.48 | hyperChipmunk | gimme a screenshot |
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| 18:44.10 | TecnoBrat | this is the mod I am looking for an alternative for: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3244/ |
| 18:44.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40548 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfix |
| 18:45.14 | hyperChipmunk | TecnoBrat: that's a pretty specialized addon; don't expect you'll find a replacement/alternative |
| 18:45.55 | TecnoBrat | :( yea, I was just curious perhaps someone knew of one ... I might just have to write one I guess |
| 18:47.22 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r40549 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_GroupClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Dev branch: attempt at avoiding lockup bug through the use of schedules at PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 18:48.17 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40550 10LittleWigs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:48.17 | CIA-22 | LittleWigs: |
| 18:48.17 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.31 | ckknight | ag`: what's the idea with PLW and PEW? |
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| 18:51.06 | ag` | ckknight, the lockup can occur simply when entering a BG, not only on login, so I hide all raid headers on PLW, and on PEW I show them again after a 5 second pause |
| 18:51.44 | nevcairiel | wont that break when you login in combat? |
| 18:52.03 | Kaelten | how can you tell what sever someone is from in battle grounds? |
| 18:52.03 | ag` | if it's in combat it's scheduled to happen after combat is over |
| 18:52.03 | TecnoBrat | Does ArenaPointer work for anyone? |
| 18:52.05 | ckknight | ag`: did you see the crash thread on the wow forums? Slouken replied |
| 18:52.15 | ag` | ckknight, yeah, but that's another problem |
| 18:52.15 | nevcairiel | so if i login in combat, no frames whatsoever? that sucks hard :P |
| 18:52.25 | ag` | ckknight, it's not about the lockup |
| 18:52.26 | ckknight | ag`: hrm... okay |
| 18:52.41 | NeoTron | Ace addon coding question: do you use AceEvent for things like OnKeyDown, OnDragStart etc or still just use the XML methods? |
| 18:52.51 | ckknight | no, those are scripts |
| 18:52.52 | ckknight | not events |
| 18:53.01 | NeoTron | that's what I thought |
| 18:53.03 | ckknight | so just use :SetScript("OnKeyDown", function() end) |
| 18:53.08 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:53.10 | ckknight | or do it in XML, however you prefer |
| 18:53.10 | Kaelten | NeoTron either SetScript on the frame or HookScript if you need to just add functionality. |
| 18:53.22 | ag` | ckknight, there's the bug you reported to slouken which causes error 132, and then there's the lockup that can happen when you enter a raid/bg, especially when logging into a raid |
| 18:53.51 | NeoTron | with the dynamic frames you really don't need the XML at all anymore do you? |
| 18:54.09 | ckknight | ag`: okay, I may steal your hax, then |
| 18:54.14 | ckknight | NeoTron: I never use it |
| 18:54.33 | ag` | ckknight, sure, but it's black voodoo so I have no idea if it works. To be honest the best thing would be the fight the cause instead of the symptoms |
| 18:54.35 | NeoTron | as I had already written it I don't have much reason to change it perhaps |
| 18:54.53 | ag` | ckknight, but I simply can't figure out what makes it happen |
| 18:55.02 | NeoTron | but I did move all the "block" frames to be dynamically created (again this is a tetris game, so the game board blocks, pieces etc) |
| 18:55.06 | NeoTron | yes that's a lot of frames :) |
| 18:55.07 | TecnoBrat | ag`, nevcairiel had a good question .. what happens when you login in combat? |
| 18:55.17 | nevcairiel | you dont get any frames until you get out of combat |
| 18:55.21 | nevcairiel | (which sucks imho) |
| 18:55.26 | TecnoBrat | that would also suck hard |
| 18:55.28 | nevcairiel | ive never had lookup problems :o |
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| 18:55.40 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: for PitBull (and I think agUF), your player/target/focus, etc frames show, but party/raid doesn't |
| 18:55.47 | ckknight | which isn't a huge-ish deal |
| 18:55.56 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 18:56.04 | ckknight | you can still kill the guy who's attacking you |
| 18:56.05 | TecnoBrat | nevcairiel, have you d/c mid fight in a large raid ... (and reloadui doesnt do it, only logging in) |
| 18:56.09 | ckknight | once that's done, you're good |
| 18:56.14 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 18:56.23 | ag` | it's a problem if you're raiding |
| 18:56.26 | ag` | and you get a DC |
| 18:56.31 | ag` | cause then you can't see your raid |
| 18:56.34 | NeoTron | I think had the dynamic frames existed before the level of entry would have been lower - it's more logical to me to do the gui coding in lua than in XML |
| 18:57.05 | ckknight | ag`: any thoughts? I postpone all cluster creation until fully initted |
| 18:57.06 | hyperChipmunk | can't be worse than crashing |
| 18:57.15 | TecnoBrat | yea .. and since the problem seems to be only limited to raids (at least that I have found) |
| 18:57.22 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/b.html ... barf |
| 18:57.37 | TecnoBrat | hyperChipmunk, true .. at least you can get in |
| 18:57.37 | ag` | ckknight, the problem is that if we create the raid frames asap, we get the lockup problem |
| 18:57.45 | TecnoBrat | and at least drag some blizz windows out |
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| 18:57.50 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: you broke Cartographer_ZoneInfo :) |
| 18:58.17 | TecnoBrat | ag`, did your delay fix it? (or have you got a chance to test it?) |
| 18:58.40 | ag` | TecnoBrat, the problem is that it doesn't happen for me 100% of the time |
| 18:58.53 | ag` | it happens sometimes when joining a BG or logging in while in BG |
| 18:59.04 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: you replace the WorldMapButton_OnUpdate function no matter if the module is enabled or disabled, if it's disabled, opening the map results in errors because 'frame' doesn't exist (because the module is not enabled and the 'frame' gets created in OnEnable) |
| 18:59.09 | ag` | but I haven't seen it in a long time after I added the schedules |
| 18:59.21 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: like it, but i think i wanna shift away from blue; I use a transparent fu-bar, and that'd get lost in the sky |
| 18:59.30 | ag` | but having the schedules means that if you login while in combat you won't get your raid frames until combat is over |
| 18:59.33 | hyperChipmunk | or if you want to enhance the difference, maybe make the | part blue |
| 18:59.41 | TecnoBrat | I can try /rainviting my whole guild |
| 18:59.45 | TecnoBrat | and seeing if I get it to happen |
| 18:59.48 | TecnoBrat | when I get home :P |
| 18:59.56 | hyperChipmunk | in which case it'd disappear against the sky, leaving just the m |
| 19:00.11 | ag` | TecnoBrat, I don't know if actually creating a raid group causes it |
| 19:00.22 | TecnoBrat | Oh, and then alt+f4ing |
| 19:00.29 | ag` | TecnoBrat, also the changes I made is only in the branch version of aguf, if that's what you use |
| 19:00.33 | ag` | alt+f4? |
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| 19:01.01 | TecnoBrat | Yea, I'll try the branched version |
| 19:01.17 | TecnoBrat | alt+f4 = basically a d/c :P |
| 19:01.26 | nevcairiel | TecnoBrat: yes ive logged in in large raids, no isses whatsoever |
| 19:01.36 | nevcairiel | *issues |
| 19:01.41 | TecnoBrat | nevcairiel, what UFs/RFs do you use? |
| 19:01.47 | nevcairiel | agUF and sRF |
| 19:02.15 | ag` | nevcairiel, try logging in while in a battleground |
| 19:02.23 | ag` | and try it a few times |
| 19:02.28 | Mikk | seriously though.. does login in combat mean you never get to see the regen_disabled event? |
| 19:02.42 | ag` | Mikk, no, it happens |
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| 19:02.57 | ag` | so you'll know when combat is over |
| 19:03.14 | chrisn | Hey Antiarc are you around? |
| 19:03.57 | NeoTron | Is theer a noticeable gain in doing: "local GetTime = GetTime" and similar constructs? Saves a global table lookup? |
| 19:04.15 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: I'm actually benchmarking that right now |
| 19:04.17 | Antiarc|Work | And yes, there is. |
| 19:04.26 | NeoTron | curious |
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| 19:04.43 | Antiarc|Work | Using an upvalue instead of _G.Foo is about 11% faster on my system |
| 19:04.45 | NeoTron | I see AceEvent does that for quite a few methods |
| 19:05.25 | NeoTron | 11% faster is nice, but question is if it's slow enough to matter in the first place? :) I guess it depends a lot on the frequency of the calls too |
| 19:05.43 | Antiarc|Work | It depends entirely on the frequency. Any single call there will be really, really fast |
| 19:05.48 | Antiarc|Work | But that does add up over time |
| 19:06.24 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: hmm - whats tabletop? :o can i fill it with values and get some excel-like table? |
| 19:06.40 | Antiarc|Work | I'm testing 15,000,000 calls, and upvalues are running about 9.2 sec vs 10.4 sec |
| 19:06.56 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Don't use it. It doesn't work :P |
| 19:07.00 | Gagorian | What's the difference between local _G = getfenv(0); local moo = _G.UnitMana( "unit" ) and local moo = UnitMana( "unit" )? |
| 19:07.01 | sbu | meh :) |
| 19:07.13 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: need something like that to build SW unilog replacement |
| 19:07.24 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: One sec, I'll upload my script |
| 19:07.25 | sbu | but without some sortable+scrollable 'table' - no way ;o |
| 19:07.42 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net/57074 |
| 19:07.51 | Antiarc|Work | Just run that through the Lua binary. |
| 19:07.59 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r40551 10FuBar_WindFuryFu/ (FuBar_WindFuryFu.toc WindFuryFu.lua): |
| 19:08.00 | CIA-22 | FuBar_WindFuryFu: |
| 19:08.00 | CIA-22 | - Updated .toc |
| 19:08.00 | CIA-22 | - Fixed bug when Windfury was cast in combat |
| 19:08.15 | chrisn | Antiarc|Work you have a moment for a question about the armory sig generator? |
| 19:08.19 | Antiarc|Work | Sure. |
| 19:10.07 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: I actually put that script together because I wanted to see the difference between upvalue and constant lookups |
| 19:10.14 | Antiarc|Work | Which appears to not be that much, which pleases me :) |
| 19:12.33 | chrisn | Alright step by step, I created the two databases, users, entered the info into _db.php and executed schema.sql against the armory_db and schema2.sql against the armory_cache_db. |
| 19:12.37 | chrisn | Sound right so far? |
| 19:12.42 | Antiarc|Work | Sounds about right |
| 19:13.10 | chrisn | Alright well that created the sigs table in the armory db and cache and referrers log in the cache database |
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| 19:14.18 | chrisn | However when I attempt to generate a sig I get the message "Table 'armory_cache.sigs' doesn't exist" which seems odd if the sigs table isn't supposed to be part of the cache db right? |
| 19:14.47 | NeoTron | chrisn: I have the solution |
| 19:14.52 | NeoTron | and sorry for not reporting it Antiarc|Work .. |
| 19:15.10 | NeoTron | you need to add mysql_select_db when fetching a catched connection |
| 19:15.14 | Industrial | wow I didnt even troll :O! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6822.new#new |
| 19:15.24 | NeoTron | otherwise you can't have different cache/non-cache databases |
| 19:15.33 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: i got a request from a guidlmate, color your own bar in omen in good visible red :) |
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| 19:15.50 | hyperChipmunk | you can right click on your bar |
| 19:15.51 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: Right-click any bar and style it to your heart's content :) |
| 19:15.54 | hyperChipmunk | and do whatever the heck you want |
| 19:15.55 | NeoTron | i.e mysql_select_db($armory_cache_db_db); |
| 19:15.58 | NeoTron | err |
| 19:15.59 | hypetech | what do I need to have something go to /say in Ace? |
| 19:16.02 | Antiarc|Work | Change color, texture, size, font properties. |
| 19:16.20 | NeoTron | didn't mean to post that but put that before the return of the cached database (and the equivalent in the non-cache DB) |
| 19:16.25 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2FAPI_SendChatMessage&ei=Bdp2RrftCpWSgwOwxZ30CA&usg=AFQjCNGfc3A7o4JN5yBoVKWc9q1_1hTUeA&sig2=z_NOmLl7c8keTDk2RLmD0g |
| 19:16.26 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 19:16.31 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 19:16.33 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: how is that stored? per char name? |
| 19:16.39 | hypetech | Antiarc: thank you |
| 19:16.46 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: Yes |
| 19:17.02 | Antiarc|Work | Basically just stores name = {properties} |
| 19:17.21 | Antiarc|Work | So don't complain if you can't give a different color for every water elemental in the raid ;) |
| 19:17.29 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:17.38 | nevcairiel | ive noticed some bugs with class coloring |
| 19:17.44 | nevcairiel | some players had wrong colors |
| 19:17.51 | nevcairiel | like one mage was a warrior |
| 19:17.52 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 19:17.52 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, seems to be related to people either DCing, or the raid composition changing |
| 19:18.08 | Arrowmaster | got a shaman with a druid color in my group right now |
| 19:18.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40552 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints - show 5 combo points when configMode is on. |
| 19:18.25 | chrisn | NeoTron that seems to already be there |
| 19:18.48 | NeoTron | chrisn: even for cached connections? |
| 19:19.08 | Antiarc|Work | It's in there, NeoTron |
| 19:19.10 | Antiarc|Work | http://svn.digitalsentience.com/svn/armory/_db.template.php |
| 19:19.11 | NeoTron | ok |
| 19:19.14 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work soul-shatter doesnt seem to work for my warlocks on Al'ar |
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| 19:19.21 | NeoTron | I haven't updated for a while :P |
| 19:19.22 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40553 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Fixes the minor issue with exponent graphs and the new code to reduce processing when there is nothing to do |
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| 19:19.38 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: They're up to date? Fixed that a while back, I thought. If it's still borked I'll have another go at it. |
| 19:19.42 | trh | any idea why i get always logged out from the new ui.worldofwar.net when i surf to a addon page? |
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| 19:19.47 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: no it's not in theer |
| 19:19.53 | chrisn | So I am not sure how that will fix it |
| 19:19.53 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:19.58 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh |
| 19:19.59 | Antiarc|Work | You're right. |
| 19:20.02 | NeoTron | you need to select the DB before the return |
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| 19:20.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40554 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - comment out non-ABF layouts in TOC |
| 19:20.23 | NeoTron | stupid php global database selection... |
| 19:20.24 | Antiarc|Work | There you go, chrisn. Move those mysql_select_db's above those returns and you should be good to go. |
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| 19:20.29 | Antiarc|Work | I wonder why it works for me? |
| 19:20.48 | NeoTron | using the same database for both? |
| 19:20.51 | Josh_Borke | because your're antiarc |
| 19:21.03 | NeoTron | i.e db_db = cache_db_db |
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| 19:21.37 | Antiarc|Work | No, I'm using two DBs for performance purposes. |
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| 19:22.21 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: Is it that you don't like the blue, or is it just that you're afraid it won't show very well against a sky background? |
| 19:22.40 | Mikk | Cause I've been toying with placing it over various colors and the outline means it'll show just fine |
| 19:22.40 | Josh_Borke | mikk: why's it got to be about color? |
| 19:22.53 | Mikk | Cause that's the question I got? |
| 19:22.56 | NeoTron | are they using the same connect strings? |
| 19:23.00 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 19:23.01 | NeoTron | dunno |
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| 19:23.47 | hyperChipmunk | i'm looking at it in-game; really like how it looks, but are you gonna have the black background? |
| 19:23.54 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Here's an interesting little question... |
| 19:23.56 | Mikk | nono |
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| 19:24.03 | Mikk | i'm removing that |
| 19:24.04 | Antiarc|Work | Is it possible to assign _G to nil? |
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| 19:24.16 | Mikk | i just wanted to see how it'd look on a standard fubar |
| 19:24.19 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: why? |
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| 19:24.31 | Industrial | Antiarc|Work: why would you want to do that? (the infamous i dont know answer) |
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| 19:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | I can't really get a good feel for how the blue will show up, because the one you posted has a black backdrop |
| 19:24.36 | Antiarc|Work | Or maybe assign it to a table with a metatable that just gives me info on when it's called. |
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| 19:24.58 | Industrial | oh to track lookups? |
| 19:24.59 | Antiarc|Work | Industrial: Mostly I just want to be able to modify it for debugging and optimization purposes to find places that I'm doing an excessive number of global lookups. |
| 19:25.03 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: there was a posto n the forums about finding when you add to the global table |
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| 19:25.04 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 19:25.04 | Industrial | seems expensive |
| 19:25.08 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: use your own judgement, but I'd prefer to have a transparent backdrop than a solid color |
| 19:25.11 | Antiarc|Work | It would be extremely expensive |
| 19:25.15 | Antiarc|Work | But useful for optimization |
| 19:25.49 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
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| 19:25.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i figured |
| 19:25.49 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not interesting in seeing when I add to it, but when I do a lookup to it |
| 19:25.49 | hyperChipmunk | if it shows up fine, that's ok by me |
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| 19:26.20 | Antiarc|Work | I want to identify places that I'm doing any significant number of global lookups on a repeating basis, and then optimize those into upvalues |
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| 19:27.21 | NeoTron | chrisn: http://ace.pastey.net/57077 something like that might work (untested) |
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| 19:31.33 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not sure i like the blue entirely, but i'll withold judgement until i see it |
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| 19:31.44 | KarlThePagan | yay monster split |
| 19:31.44 | KarlThePagan | anyone alive? |
| 19:31.44 | Industrial | it ate 60+ people :( |
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| 19:31.44 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0-40355 (Threat-1.0):862: Assertion failed: type(nil --[=[partyUnits[player]]=]) == "string" |
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| 19:31.44 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: you there? :) |
| 19:31.44 | KarlThePagan | welcome back monster split victim |
| 19:31.44 | KarlThePagan | *s |
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| 19:31.45 | Mudkipz | yarr |
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| 19:31.45 | AnduinLothar | hey, it's a basic |
| 19:31.45 | NeoTron | think I'm glad I have joins/leaves filtered out |
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| 19:31.53 | NeoTron | sounds like it'd been noisy |
| 19:31.53 | AnduinLothar | basic wants to help me out |
| 19:31.54 | Mudkipz | NeoTron, it's nothing like rizon |
| 19:31.54 | KarlThePagan | lol wut |
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| 19:31.54 | hypetech | Is there a variable for the player's name in the API that I can use? For example, if I wanted to have the character say "My name is blah", anything like "My name is "..self or something? |
| 19:31.54 | KarlThePagan | I guess it is lunchtime... |
| 19:31.54 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Ace2Khaos+Khaos.zip |
| 19:31.54 | AnduinLothar | :D |
| 19:32.08 | Industrial | o_O |
| 19:32.08 | NeoTron | hypetech: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitName => UnitName("player") |
| 19:32.08 | AnduinLothar | it needs some chash runs. i only run 10 or so ace mods but they seem to work with it |
| 19:32.09 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40555 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Minor changes for better profiling |
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| 19:32.21 | AnduinLothar | crash* |
| 19:32.33 | hypetech | NeoTron: perfect, thank you |
| 19:32.45 | KarlThePagan | sure thing |
| 19:32.46 | AnduinLothar | thx |
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| 19:32.57 | KarlThePagan | just in case... what's the command to open khaos? |
| 19:32.58 | Industrial | thats pretty cool :) |
| 19:32.58 | KarlThePagan | or is it still in the main menu? |
| 19:33.09 | AnduinLothar | mm |
| 19:33.09 | KarlThePagan | kk |
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| 19:33.33 | AnduinLothar | this aint no ace mod silly. i don't do slash commands |
| 19:33.36 | NeoTron | ace2khaos = configure ace addons using khaos? |
| 19:33.37 | KarlThePagan | lol |
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| 19:33.52 | AnduinLothar | yes Neo |
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| 19:33.55 | KarlThePagan | looks like it |
| 19:33.56 | NeoTron | cool |
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| 19:34.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40556 10PitBull/ (Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - change :RegisterLayout to :RegisterMetaLayout. No name is provided anymore, can only be called once (by ABF). |
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| 19:34.31 | Mudkipz | about lunch time.. sushi hooooooooooooo |
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| 19:34.58 | AnduinLothar | it's kinda one sided unfortunetly. i haven't figured out how to update it to changes made directly from other mods or configurations without hooking ever function in the ace registry |
| 19:35.00 | KarlThePagan | so I'm hitting about 180 ace addons... starting up |
| 19:35.12 | AnduinLothar | every* |
| 19:35.22 | AnduinLothar | so maybe i'll have it just update onshow |
| 19:35.23 | NeoTron | I think as a new ace user what put me off the most with Ace was that everything was either configured via slash commands or via deeply nested menus or both >:-) |
| 19:35.35 | NeoTron | now I can just use niagara and it's not quite as painful :) |
| 19:35.38 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40557 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: more upvalues |
| 19:35.41 | AnduinLothar | yeah NeoTron. i hate slash commands with a passion |
| 19:35.57 | AnduinLothar | and dropdowns are only good for some things |
| 19:36.01 | NeoTron | I hate the 3-4 or deeper menues more |
| 19:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | I'm rather <3 over Dewdrop/Waterfall configs, myself. |
| 19:36.12 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: I'm here |
| 19:36.13 | NeoTron | especially when you accidently mis-move the mouse and have to start over |
| 19:36.25 | NeoTron | niagara = waterfall right? |
| 19:36.31 | Antiarc|Work | yeah |
| 19:36.33 | KarlThePagan | I only hate... /BigWigs Extras Timers Local <time> <name> |
| 19:36.35 | Antiarc|Work | more or less |
| 19:36.38 | KarlThePagan | most others I can deal with |
| 19:36.39 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40558 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (addon.lua import.lua): Cartographer_Vendors: deDE Update |
| 19:36.40 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: you broke Cartographer_ZoneInfo :) |
| 19:36.42 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: you replace the WorldMapButton_OnUpdate function no matter if the module is enabled or disabled, if it's disabled, opening the map results in errors because 'frame' doesn't exist (because the module is not enabled and the 'frame' gets created in OnEnable) |
| 19:36.47 | KarlThePagan | but at least its there... |
| 19:36.49 | NeoTron | it's decent - definitely an improvement over menus |
| 19:36.51 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: /bwcb /bwlcb |
| 19:36.59 | kebinusan | KarlThePagan: /bwcb |
| 19:37.00 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: k. |
| 19:37.12 | hyperChipmunk | dewdrop just needs tear-off menu support, and all will be milk and honey |
| 19:37.19 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, k thx... those need help / hints lol |
| 19:37.22 | kebinusan | though I wish it had a minute option for timers :-) I always end up /print 17*60 or something first |
| 19:37.24 | vhaarr | :P |
| 19:37.28 | KarlThePagan | ;P |
| 19:37.59 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: if it does error onload with that many ace addons it'll be a miricle |
| 19:38.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40559 10Cartographer/Cartographer_ZoneInfo/ZoneInfo.lua: Cartographer_ZoneInfo - bugfix |
| 19:38.11 | kebinusan | doing /bwcb for your pizza can be a bit embarrassing tho |
| 19:38.12 | KarlThePagan | does or doesn't? |
| 19:38.14 | break19 | anyone else having problems with autobar lately? it keeps complaining I dont have babble installed.. yet, it is.. |
| 19:38.18 | AnduinLothar | doesn't* |
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| 19:38.32 | NeoTron | break19: I had to install babble standalone |
| 19:38.37 | break19 | no other addons complain about missing babble |
| 19:38.37 | hyperChipmunk | in fact, if nobody can come up with an reason why dewdrops can't be torn off, then i'm gonna have a shot at it right now; ckknight? |
| 19:38.39 | NeoTron | for autobar and I think one other addon |
| 19:38.44 | break19 | NeoTron: all my stuff is standalone.. |
| 19:38.55 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:39.02 | *** join/#wowace Trancer (i=trancer@trancer.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:39.02 | NeoTron | then I don't know. |
| 19:39.02 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40560 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (addon.lua import.lua): Cartographer_Trainers: deDE Update |
| 19:39.13 | Funkeh` | AnduinLothar: nice to see you here |
| 19:39.30 | hyperChipmunk | say click-drag on the title |
| 19:39.34 | AnduinLothar | i was trolling here all nice asking AceConsole table questions |
| 19:39.38 | AnduinLothar | night* |
| 19:39.52 | KarlThePagan | interoperability is great success |
| 19:40.09 | KarlThePagan | well by that I mean the effort |
| 19:40.09 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/bulkmail/ -- including tga |
| 19:40.11 | KarlThePagan | still loading |
| 19:40.11 | hyperChipmunk | AnduinLothar: you spelled Chaos wrong |
| 19:40.13 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r40561 10cgProfiler/ (profile/profile.lua raids/raids.lua): |
| 19:40.13 | CIA-22 | cgProfiler - |
| 19:40.13 | CIA-22 | -bug fixes |
| 19:40.14 | ckknight | we have Shirik and now AnduinLothar... |
| 19:40.16 | AnduinLothar | seems no one knows what do do with multi level 'groups' over 2 deep |
| 19:40.19 | ckknight | now we just need Cide... |
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| 19:40.28 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: what do you mean? |
| 19:40.30 | Funkeh` | AnduinLothar: hehe ^^ |
| 19:40.30 | KarlThePagan | hyperChipmunk, lawl i C WUT U DID THAR |
| 19:40.33 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40562 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Performance improved by checking if a grid state set command actually changes a value before setting a flag to refresh the graph |
| 19:40.38 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:40.45 | ckknight | Shirik: people in #wowace |
| 19:40.51 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:40.54 | Shirik | non-ace users in #wowace ? |
| 19:40.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:41.01 | Funkeh` | yeah thats awesome |
| 19:41.01 | Shirik | wtb my +v back!! T_T |
| 19:41.04 | Kaelten | all are welcome :) |
| 19:41.07 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ckknight |
| 19:41.09 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 19:41.11 | Funkeh` | spread the love |
| 19:41.13 | AnduinLothar | well there are a trillion peeps in here.. |
| 19:41.13 | Mikk | saien? |
| 19:41.19 | GnancyHome | disembeded users? |
| 19:41.19 | KarlThePagan | 291 |
| 19:41.19 | Shirik | <3 |
| 19:41.20 | Kaelten | Mikk: except him |
| 19:41.24 | Mikk | =) |
| 19:41.28 | break19 | NOOOooO! they'll corrupt us all! with there non ace addons! *runs and hides* |
| 19:41.37 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40563 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 19:41.37 | CIA-22 | .AceEvent-2.0: Plug a leak in :TriggerEvent if no addons had registered for the |
| 19:41.37 | CIA-22 | triggered event, removed the debugTable stuff and use a cached table as the ID |
| 19:41.37 | CIA-22 | for scheduled events without explicit ID's, thanks to Roartindon for that one. |
| 19:41.37 | CIA-22 | Two 'tmp' tables were used in the file scope, move them into their own blocks - |
| 19:41.38 | CIA-22 | no idea what kind of bugs this could've been causing. |
| 19:41.45 | Funkeh` | ckknight: oh you charmer |
| 19:41.49 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: looks good; loading it up in-game now |
| 19:41.53 | Mikk | break19|hiding: there's lots of nonace in the svn... muahaha :> |
| 19:42.00 | ckknight | lol, it's true |
| 19:42.00 | Mikk | <- guilty of a lot of it |
| 19:42.03 | break19|hiding | Mikk: Oh the humanity! |
| 19:42.12 | ckknight | non-ace mods are fine on the SVN as long as "the spirit" is kept |
| 19:42.13 | ag` | bleh bleh bleh http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6824 |
| 19:42.27 | Funkeh` | ace svn should be for efficient mods not ace mods |
| 19:42.30 | AnduinLothar | ckknight: no one seemed to know if passValue should pass to children if defined in a group |
| 19:42.42 | Kaelten | ag`: your avatar is disturbing |
| 19:42.42 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: it doesn't |
| 19:42.50 | Mikk | ya.. if i were to ace the stuff i put up there, it'd go twice the size... excluding embedded stuff ofc |
| 19:42.55 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: passValue only affects the immediate table |
| 19:42.57 | AnduinLothar | and no one seemed to know if the get/set/func were passed more than 1 group deep |
| 19:42.57 | trh | Funkeh`: there isn't a single mod in the ace svn that couldn't be optimized more |
| 19:43.00 | Funkeh` | unfortunately i can name a few shity mods already on the svn |
| 19:43.05 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: they're not, just 1 group |
| 19:43.11 | ag` | Kaelten, yeah... I'd go with Patrick Bateman instead but someone already took him |
| 19:43.17 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: passing groups are 1 level deep, afair |
| 19:43.35 | ckknight | Kaelten: but my avatar is more disturbing! |
| 19:43.39 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: the 'tilt' makes it impossible to make out for me at fontsize 11 |
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| 19:43.44 | hyperChipmunk | maybe cut down on that a bit? |
| 19:43.49 | AnduinLothar | and 'passing group' is really ambiguous on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table and should prolly be given a section just for description |
| 19:43.49 | Mikk | arf |
| 19:43.50 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, passing groups are not heavily used |
| 19:43.50 | Mikk | ok |
| 19:43.51 | Kaelten | is is still the kittie? |
| 19:44.18 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40564 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Properly reclaim a table in HandleMessage, shuffle some if's around for faster access and fix some indentation hiccups. |
| 19:44.22 | NeoTron | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1181947874017.jpg is safe to be repeated. I really like that one for some reason |
| 19:44.33 | trh | Funkeh`: list them there? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Optimization |
| 19:44.35 | NeoTron | Kaelten's kittie comment reminded me |
| 19:44.36 | ckknight | Kaelten: oh yea |
| 19:44.42 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: setmetatable doesn't need to be upvalued at all in Prototype.lua |
| 19:44.45 | Funkeh` | trh: no thanks ill leave that to the authors |
| 19:44.48 | ckknight | NeoTron: 404 |
| 19:44.50 | Cryect | NeoTron: already 404 :_p |
| 19:44.53 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: ok |
| 19:44.55 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, almost none of them are configurable via Khaos ;) |
| 19:44.55 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: it's only used twice, and only on initial login or reloadui |
| 19:45.14 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: is that due to errors? |
| 19:45.22 | haste | NeoTron: linking to posts in the back of /b/ is useless |
| 19:45.24 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: done, less angled |
| 19:45.25 | NeoTron | BTW FuBar_PerformanceFu is often at the top of the CPU users, ironically :) |
| 19:45.26 | vhaarr | Mikk: did you see my question earlier? |
| 19:45.31 | vhaarr | Mikk: I'm not sure if you replied or not |
| 19:45.34 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: http://69.14.77.214/bmicon.png |
| 19:45.38 | Mikk | vhaarr: no, sorry, my irc client is teh sux.. no alerts |
| 19:45.40 | NeoTron | ugh.. wtf? maybe I have it cached |
| 19:45.40 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 19:45.42 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, doesn't appear to be so... unless you mask errors from buggrabber? |
| 19:45.42 | vhaarr | Mikk: ah |
| 19:45.44 | break19 | NeoTron: not ironic at all :p |
| 19:45.44 | hyperChipmunk | lemme look |
| 19:45.47 | vhaarr | Mikk: let me find it, hang on |
| 19:45.47 | haste | NeoTron: if it's beyond the third page, it gets pruned within 10min |
| 19:45.53 | AnduinLothar | i don't no |
| 19:45.56 | NeoTron | doh |
| 19:45.58 | KarlThePagan | yea then no errors |
| 19:45.58 | kenlyric_ | hyperChipmunk: is bulkmail's usage of PT3 intentional? |
| 19:46.07 | KarlThePagan | i'll make a brief list |
| 19:46.10 | Kaelten | AnduinLothar: hi |
| 19:46.10 | AnduinLothar | but i use IEF myself, obviously |
| 19:46.14 | haste | NeoTron: if it's on the first, it usually last for 30min, or until it hits the post limit |
| 19:46.18 | vhaarr | Mikk: in function ChatThrottleLib.PipeBin:Get(), you return a new table some times, how often will that occur? |
| 19:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | intentional? |
| 19:46.25 | vhaarr | Mikk: seems to me that if it's often, it could generate some garbage |
| 19:46.33 | kenlyric_ | hyperChipmunk: before it wasn't loading any of the LoD stuff. Now it appears to be. But not all of it. http://media.abels.us/wow/WoWScrnShot_061807_154407.jpg |
| 19:46.34 | Mikk | they're recycled |
| 19:46.35 | AnduinLothar | hello Kaelten |
| 19:46.41 | vhaarr | Mikk: unpossible! |
| 19:46.55 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: how much is almost none? over a dozen? |
| 19:47.10 | Mikk | vhaarr: basically, i don't expect it to happen at all past the first burst of messages |
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| 19:47.12 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric_: it wfm on a standard svn checkout |
| 19:47.18 | hyperChipmunk | check your externals |
| 19:47.34 | vhaarr | Mikk: why does it need to return a new table, anyway? wouldn't it be better to just check for a nil return where it's used? |
| 19:47.51 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, 6 worked - detox, onebag, supply & demand, swapmagic, xraidstatus, simpleminimap |
| 19:47.53 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40565 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added "Always Show Omen" option. Rearranged the menu a bit. |
| 19:47.55 | kenlyric_ | they're all there. |
| 19:48.18 | hyperChipmunk | anyone else with BM2 have problems getting the full PT3 menu to show up/ |
| 19:48.21 | Mikk | vhaarr: cause the caller would simply end up creating a new table anyway |
| 19:48.30 | vhaarr | Mikk: fair enough, okay |
| 19:48.40 | Mikk | check where it's used |
| 19:48.46 | vhaarr | Mikk: just trying to account for the increasing memory usage in CHAT_MSG_ADDON in AceComm |
| 19:48.47 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: something seems...wrong, still |
| 19:48.49 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40566 10ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.xml localization-enUS.lua): ACP: Added protect mode (puts a star next to the addon) these addons, wont be unloaded by a "disable all addons" command |
| 19:48.50 | Kaelten | Woot OneBag ftw! |
| 19:48.51 | abyssichate | Antiarc: did you check if there is something causing wrong bar colouring by any chance ? |
| 19:48.51 | Kaelten | :P |
| 19:48.53 | hyperChipmunk | i can't put my finger on it |
| 19:48.56 | vhaarr | Mikk: perhaps you'd like to take a look as well |
| 19:49.02 | hyperChipmunk | give me one without any tilt at all and lemme look |
| 19:49.09 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: you're weird sometimes |
| 19:49.19 | Mikk | vhaarr: unless you're pushing out more than 1kcps, you're not going to get queueing at all |
| 19:49.28 | Mikk | that function isn't going to be called to begin with |
| 19:49.32 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40567 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - :GetMaxValue() now checks to see if there is any possible data thats not zero now before scanning the data table |
| 19:49.37 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: hmm. i have ArkInventory, decursive, dorje, fubar, simple combatlog, spamsentry, visualheal and oRA2 working... |
| 19:49.54 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I don't think you should be doing these upvalue 'optimizations' |
| 19:50.01 | AnduinLothar | do you have any of those that aren't showing up? |
| 19:50.02 | hyperChipmunk | i guess a better question would be if anyone else has ever USED the pt3set menu in bulkmail2 >8\ |
| 19:50.07 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: you need to take a look at what's going on |
| 19:50.26 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, VisualHeal, oRA2, FuBar |
| 19:50.39 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: bigwigs basically only calls the stuff you're touching on login, then never again, which makes it just a increase in memory usage vs virtually *no* speed benefit |
| 19:50.42 | kenlyric_ | baggins isn't showing the same menues. It's showing most of the, but still not all of them. |
| 19:50.53 | kenlyric_ | I just don't think PT3 likes being standalone. |
| 19:50.56 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I think you should revert all the changes, I'm sorry |
| 19:51.20 | Mikk | kenlyric_: you need to tell baggins to pull in sets via the "PT3 LoD" menu thingy |
| 19:51.29 | kenlyric_ | it's doing it fine. |
| 19:51.47 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: except maybe GetNumRaidMembers in :Scan |
| 19:51.55 | kenlyric_ | wonder if I check all of those and restart, if bm2 will see them too. |
| 19:51.58 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: stuff like that, but that happens rarely as well |
| 19:51.59 | hyperChipmunk | pt3 isn't standalone |
| 19:52.06 | Funkeh` | hm |
| 19:52.10 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: the idea is that you upvalue stuff that goes into OnUpdate handlers |
| 19:52.14 | Mikk | eh? pt3 runs disembedded just fine? o.O |
| 19:52.19 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: other than that, there's -no- perf win |
| 19:52.31 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: and BW has no OnUpdates |
| 19:52.43 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, here's some major ones that don't work, but do in DeuceCommander: ag_UnitFrames, Bartender3, Grid, Prat, Omen, Quartz, Mobhealth, Aloft, DrDamage, RatingBuster, SilverDragon, ColaLight |
| 19:52.49 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 19:52.57 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: so you're just giving us the (very low) memory use of holding local references to these api calls |
| 19:53.02 | vhaarr | very low, granted |
| 19:53.04 | vhaarr | but still useless |
| 19:53.08 | vhaarr | so please revert |
| 19:53.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40568 10PitBull/ (Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.toc PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): |
| 19:53.14 | CIA-22 | PitBull - move Layouts/ABF.lua to PitBull_MetaLayout.lua |
| 19:53.14 | CIA-22 | - rename all references of ABF to MetaLayout. |
| 19:53.16 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Are you aware of the Omen issue that bar colors are sometimes wrong? Like warriors have rogue color etc |
| 19:53.16 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: i think what it is, is the tilt makes the m look totally not m-ish |
| 19:53.17 | Tupsi | hmm, any chance i can make me a "Healing Taken from" list in Assessment? |
| 19:53.17 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 19:53.22 | kenlyric_ | that did it. |
| 19:53.25 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Yup, working on it now. |
| 19:53.29 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: k. flattening it |
| 19:53.32 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, would DeuceCommander be a good example for where to get addon information? |
| 19:53.39 | kenlyric_ | using baggins LoD checkboxes for pt3 sets made them show up in bm2 |
| 19:53.51 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: no idea |
| 19:54.03 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: what kind of information? |
| 19:54.19 | KarlThePagan | an addon's ace option's table |
| 19:54.23 | kenlyric_ | there's still no subcategory for tradeskills.Mat.byProfession, but I think that's a pt3 error. |
| 19:54.31 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: yea |
| 19:54.55 | Arrowmaster | fyi i think its been said that prats menu is perty dynamic and has issues in deucecommander because of that |
| 19:54.58 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: that's odd that they dont show up and it doesn't error |
| 19:55.00 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, sounds like DeuceCommander is still using a sane hook |
| 19:55.02 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Mind if I take a lookat your graph code to optimize for or assist (not sure if you have had a chance to checkout the new realtime graph code but Recount puts it to fairly good use, still need to make some special code for vertical/horizontal lines for grid drawing though) |
| 19:55.02 | kenlyric_ | hyperChipmunk: I just figured out why it's loading tradeskills by default... because I already have rules that use tradeskills pt3 set. |
| 19:55.04 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: done |
| 19:55.14 | AnduinLothar | sane hook? |
| 19:55.33 | KarlThePagan | like... not inappropriate method access or deprecated stuff |
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| 19:55.39 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: By all means, please do. I've got it disabled at the moment, since I haven't finished it |
| 19:55.55 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: trying; sorry about being difficult |
| 19:55.56 | Antiarc|Work | I've been waiting on you to slow down your flurry of updates so I can use yummy new features. :D |
| 19:56.00 | hyperChipmunk | it really is good |
| 19:56.07 | KarlThePagan | oh wait... |
| 19:56.09 | KarlThePagan | I see the error |
| 19:56.25 | hyperChipmunk | dagnabit |
| 19:56.38 | Cryect | Yummy new features just kinda get added when I get an idea or something doesn't work how I want it to :-p |
| 19:56.39 | hyperChipmunk | it still gets mashed together |
| 19:56.40 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 19:56.54 | hyperChipmunk | i lose the gaps in the B |
| 19:56.58 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, ok I made a bad assumption about what was causing my errors |
| 19:57.04 | KarlThePagan | http://ace.pastey.net/57080 |
| 19:57.07 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: sizing it up |
| 19:57.09 | hyperChipmunk | make the lines thinner perhaps? |
| 19:58.06 | KarlThePagan | assessment is functional... doesn't appear to be an issue with it (but it is a "beta quality addon") |
| 19:58.31 | AnduinLothar | so there was an error? |
| 19:58.32 | hyperChipmunk | normally, I'd say, "screw it; if someone wants it that small, that's their own look-out"; but in this case, i run it that small, so i want to be able to see my own addon =) |
| 19:58.51 | hyperChipmunk | and i don't have any problem at all with any other icon |
| 19:58.54 | Mikk | hehe |
| 19:58.54 | AnduinLothar | ack. gtg. see if you can debug it. if not jsut try and limit addons till it works |
| 19:58.55 | Mikk | go again |
| 19:58.56 | hyperChipmunk | you know what? |
| 19:59.03 | hyperChipmunk | it's smaller than the others for some reason |
| 19:59.11 | Mikk | yeah, i made it bigger now |
| 19:59.15 | Mikk | i needed it smaller when it was rotated |
| 19:59.46 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, eh, probably don't have time to debug but I'll reload until it works ;) |
| 20:01.15 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, next error - http://ace.pastey.net/57081 |
| 20:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i like that |
| 20:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 20:01.43 | KarlThePagan | don't think I'll be able to find the addon that caused that |
| 20:02.17 | *** join/#wowace Sedai (n=anything@c-67-176-97-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 20:02.22 | Sedai | hiya guys! |
| 20:02.23 | kenlyric_ | what pt3 category would raw food be under, the kind you can use for cooking? |
| 20:03.02 | kenlyric_ | "Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession.Cooking" seems one reasonable choice. |
| 20:03.22 | _Saint-N | reasonable has no bearing ken ;) |
| 20:03.25 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` plz splain littlewigs problem? |
| 20:03.26 | _Saint-N | you should know better |
| 20:03.35 | Sedai | question for dev on PitBull: Is there a away to add range in numbers to a unit frame? |
| 20:03.35 | Elkano | yeah, there is one categorie listing all reagents for cooking |
| 20:03.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40569 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - typo |
| 20:04.06 | ckknight | Sedai: range for what? |
| 20:04.10 | hyperChipmunk | Sedai: distance to target? |
| 20:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | not possible |
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| 20:04.34 | Sedai | distance, I think there is a range check there but it does it by transparency |
| 20:04.35 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40570 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix for the menu rearrangement |
| 20:05.17 | Sedai | I have seen a mod that tells you when you get a toa certain "range" |
| 20:06.04 | Kalman| | Sedai: There's no way to get a specific range number; best you can do is ranges of range. |
| 20:06.26 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: making sure I understand this right but your code is just interpolating across 2 TPS values every 0.1 seconds? |
| 20:06.33 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. |
| 20:06.46 | Antiarc|Work | Just smooths the graph out while maintaining the intent of the data |
| 20:06.47 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: whats to explain sorry? i thought i said it pretty well no the forum |
| 20:06.50 | Cryect | k thats fine yeah |
| 20:06.54 | Funkeh` | littlewigs was an example |
| 20:06.55 | Cryect | Otherwise it would be kinda spikey |
| 20:07.03 | Cryect | which is fine if you like that |
| 20:07.03 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh, indeed. |
| 20:07.07 | Chompers | there's graphs in Omen? |
| 20:07.10 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` all you said was littlewigs |
| 20:07.13 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Yes, but disabled |
| 20:07.16 | Cryect | Hidden away there is |
| 20:07.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40571 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - use a string ID for bucket events' repeating schedules. |
| 20:07.16 | Antiarc|Work | Due to CPU usage at the time |
| 20:07.21 | Chompers | still the performance problem |
| 20:07.22 | Chompers | ah right |
| 20:07.22 | kenlyric_ | seee, I think ByProfession should have subcategories. http://media.abels.us/wow/WoWScrnShot_061807_160614.jpg |
| 20:07.24 | Antiarc|Work | Haven't worked on them since Cryect started optimizing GraphLib |
| 20:07.28 | Funkeh` | yes, thats an example of needing a function in WAU to delete includes.xml |
| 20:07.28 | Cryect | no one has touched it since |
| 20:07.35 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, also if you have all the get/set functions can't you dynamically call them when you load up the khaos pages? |
| 20:07.36 | Chompers | looking forward to it :) |
| 20:07.38 | Antiarc|Work | I remember when you could get the world coordinates of enemy players |
| 20:07.40 | kenlyric_ | Elkano: any idea what that category would be? |
| 20:07.52 | Antiarc|Work | I wrote a little mod that put a dot on my minimap for my current target. Was awesome at Tarren Mill. :D |
| 20:07.56 | KarlThePagan | or would that be a feature for Khaos? |
| 20:08.12 | Antiarc|Work | (I actually originally wrote it to help find people in Ironforge for trades or enchants or whatever, but it turned out to work in PVP too) |
| 20:08.18 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40572 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Options.lua Prototype.lua): BigWigs: revert some stuff |
| 20:08.41 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: doing leotheras atm, threat is bugged to shit to put it lightly :p |
| 20:08.49 | shieldb | kenlyric_, what's that quest tracker in the upper right? |
| 20:08.52 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: Missing clears on the WWs? |
| 20:09.04 | kenlyric_ | shieldb: questfu |
| 20:09.17 | Elkano | kenlyric_, if you only want a generic "is a reagent for cooking" then I think "Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession.Cooking" is correct |
| 20:09.21 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: and demon phase |
| 20:09.37 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: and the global/healing threat thing is omg anoying :p |
| 20:09.43 | kenlyric_ | Elkano: did you see that screenshot? http://media.abels.us/wow/WoWScrnShot_061807_160614.jpg "ByProfession" has no subcategories. |
| 20:09.56 | kenlyric_ | which i *suspect* is a bug :) |
| 20:09.57 | sylvanaar | Funkeh`another way would be to create an extra module for modules.xml, or place modules.xml in one of the existing modules |
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| 20:10.08 | shieldb | is that the tracker or the detached tooltip? /curious |
| 20:10.16 | kenlyric_ | that's the tracker |
| 20:10.17 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: the ones you left in Prototype.lua are good examples of things that can be upvalued indeed |
| 20:10.27 | shieldb | ahh, that's why it didn't look familiar, then |
| 20:10.36 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: like i said that is not always possible because of user customization, littlewigs is an awesome example |
| 20:10.43 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: still, they don't run often enough there to really warrant it, but since they're in already, just leave them |
| 20:10.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40573 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - fix string ID in last commit |
| 20:10.54 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: if something runs OnUpdate, it's another story |
| 20:11.11 | Elkano | kenlyric_, have a look at PT3's data.lua and you'll see that it has to be a bug |
| 20:11.23 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: yeah i understand now, i will do the same for some repeating events also in boss modules |
| 20:11.30 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: don't overdo it |
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| 20:11.49 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: remember that it gives us a *very* limited speed gain for a *permanent* memory increase |
| 20:11.55 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: albeit a very small one |
| 20:12.04 | Elkano | or install PT3Browser |
| 20:12.31 | Elkano | kenlyric_, are you running PT3 as standalone or only embedded? |
| 20:12.37 | kenlyric_ | standalone. |
| 20:12.42 | Elkano | hmm... |
| 20:13.06 | kenlyric_ | I know the two mods that use it don't load the whole thing, but once they load Tradeskills it should have all of it. |
| 20:13.21 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: in the case of littlewigs there is no psub folder to place it, because they are all zone moduls that someone might not want |
| 20:13.40 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: there are other addons where placing it in a sub folder jsut is not suitable |
| 20:13.56 | kenlyric_ | this probly with byProfession only showed up in the past week. |
| 20:14.02 | kenlyric_ | *problem |
| 20:14.17 | Sedai | PitBull:PitBull_RangeCheck: add a text equivilant please. |
| 20:14.31 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: The memory increase for an upval is what, 4 bytes? |
| 20:14.42 | Antiarc|Work | Well, slightly more than that I guess |
| 20:14.45 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: right |
| 20:14.47 | Antiarc|Work | But I'd still expect single-digit bytes. |
| 20:14.56 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: And your point is? |
| 20:15.17 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: The stuff he upvalued was used on login and then never again, typically. |
| 20:15.27 | Antiarc|Work | Ahh, ok. |
| 20:15.28 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: Which just gives us .. nothing, except a larger codebase. |
| 20:15.34 | Antiarc|Work | Agreed. |
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| 20:16.45 | kenlyric_ | Elkano: it's a problem with bulkmail, not pt3 |
| 20:17.00 | kenlyric_ | it shows up fine in baggins and pt3browser |
| 20:17.11 | styling | hello |
| 20:17.31 | Elkano | hmm, I thought your screenshot was baggins ^^' |
| 20:17.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40574 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - fix memory leak with AceEvent-2.0 scheduled events. |
| 20:18.02 | hyperChipmunk | i ripped the code from pt3browser and baggins though O_o |
| 20:18.23 | styling | i'm a problem wish pitbull, link screen: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/590/sanstitreky3.png |
| 20:18.33 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` ok, the solution that is in littlewigs atm does not use includes.xml for each subdirectory |
| 20:18.44 | kenlyric_ | even when I use baggins LoD functions and reload, which shows me all the sets in BM, it's still missing stuff like "Gather" and "byprofession subsets. |
| 20:19.23 | kenlyric_ | whoever knew that "Tool" had a subcategory :) |
| 20:19.39 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` that's how its supposed to work, modules.xml -> (subdir) -> includes.xml -> files in the subdir |
| 20:20.20 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` then (subdir).toc -> includes.xml, and LittleWigs.toc -> modules.xml |
| 20:20.24 | phyber | [2007/06/18 20:58:05-2245-x251]: SpamSentry\core.lua:501: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 20:20.27 | phyber | [2007/06/18 20:58:38-2245-x308]: SpamSentry\core.lua:501: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 20:20.31 | phyber | SpamSentry\core.lua:761: in function `ChatQueueProcessMessage' |
| 20:20.32 | kenlyric_ | wow, pt3 browser is way better than lootlink. |
| 20:20.34 | phyber | SpamSentry teh borken. |
| 20:21.07 | Elkano | btw: LittleWigs is missing a version/revision string :( |
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| 20:23.15 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: thats a pretty abd solution tbh |
| 20:23.18 | Funkeh` | bad* |
| 20:23.25 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` but, perhaps removing modules.xml would be good |
| 20:23.45 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` whats bad about it, your includes are specified in one file vs. 2 |
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| 20:24.27 | Funkeh` | referencing includes.xml in every single sub folder? thats not really much of a speedup to be worth it |
| 20:25.05 | Funkeh` | imo there sohuld be an includes.xml file deletion, its not particularly appropriate for some addons to have includes everywhere |
| 20:25.06 | hypetech | is there a negation for string:match? like string:nomatch? |
| 20:25.47 | Josh_Borke | hypetech: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:25.53 | Josh_Borke | match a string that doesn't match something? |
| 20:25.54 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` well, they do though. because you have toc files in the same places I am saying to use includes.xml |
| 20:26.01 | Josh_Borke | why not just make sure the result from string.match is nil? |
| 20:26.11 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: its amde worse by the fact manual reseting is only reseting my agro |
| 20:26.27 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: Raid up to date? |
| 20:26.37 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: i have a shadow priest with the latest omen and he did not reset once from my requests |
| 20:26.42 | Funkeh` | not all of them, but shadow priest was |
| 20:26.43 | hypetech | Josh_Borke: well I'm just trying to get rid of an empty "then" in my conditional. I want to say if the string does not contain this, then do this |
| 20:27.10 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: i can, but I'll have to hook the onshow to update ALL of the all addon registry. and that doesn't work if you say use a slash command while khaos is open |
| 20:27.13 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: Ok. I'll check into it. Thanks. |
| 20:27.20 | Josh_Borke | hypetech: then why not "if not string.match(<stuff>) then"? |
| 20:27.35 | hypetech | Josh_Borke: heh, thank you |
| 20:27.36 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` the file which should be deleted is modules.xml since it is about the same as embeds.xml. includes.xml allows you to share you "includes" between 2 toc files |
| 20:27.40 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40575 10SimpleChatMods/ (antispam.lua config.lua): SimpleChatMods: antispam: No longer blocks gold spam by default. |
| 20:27.57 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, well I would live with that |
| 20:28.04 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: name it anything you want, just give us the feature :D |
| 20:28.11 | kebinusan | heh http://youtube.com/watch?v=zi6yELa08yw |
| 20:28.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40576 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit |
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| 20:30.01 | Josh_Borke | antiarc: you wanted to know about setting _G to nil? |
| 20:30.31 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5900.msg97781#msg97781 <-- i believe is what i was mentioning earlier |
| 20:31.38 | kenlyric_ | clicking on unknown items in pt3browser is an adventure :) |
| 20:32.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40577 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit |
| 20:32.32 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: what's the future commit gonna do? |
| 20:32.38 | TecnoBrat | borke everything! |
| 20:32.39 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 20:32.43 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40578 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail2.toc icon.tga): |
| 20:32.43 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 20:32.43 | CIA-22 | - new FuBar plugin icon |
| 20:32.43 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: fix a mem leak |
| 20:33.03 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: basically, it won't return a table id from :ScheduleEvent or :ScheduleRepeatedEvent |
| 20:33.04 | hyperChipmunk | thanks mikk >8D |
| 20:33.15 | ckknight | if you want to go through your own mods and make sure you don't do that, it could be helpful |
| 20:33.32 | Josh_Borke | ah, i see, you're changing the API, don't forget to update the wiki :-) |
| 20:33.52 | Josh_Borke | and it won't be an issue for me :-) i never update and i don't write ace mods :-) |
| 20:33.54 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40579 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMailInbox.lua icon.tga): |
| 20:33.54 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 20:33.54 | CIA-22 | - disable "Take Cash" button if no cash in inbox |
| 20:33.54 | CIA-22 | - new FuBar plugin icon |
| 20:34.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40580 10BarAnnounce3/Core.lua: BarAnnounce3 - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit |
| 20:34.20 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: okay |
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| 20:35.46 | Matrix110| | whats getting changed @AceEvent? |
| 20:35.53 | Josh_Borke | (04:33:02 PM) ckknight: Josh_Borke: basically, it won't return a table id from :ScheduleEvent or :ScheduleRepeatedEvent |
| 20:36.06 | Matrix110| | k |
| 20:36.19 | Matrix110| | nothing intresting for my pro Countdown |
| 20:36.21 | aen` | updated pitbull and broke all my sv |
| 20:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | pitbull raped my pooch |
| 20:37.07 | ckknight | aen`: yea, that's my bad. |
| 20:37.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40581 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 20:37.20 | ckknight | aen`: PitBull's "changin" |
| 20:37.23 | ckknight | changing* |
| 20:37.43 | hyperChipmunk | is that a permanent thing? can I avoid it by waiting a few commits? |
| 20:37.58 | aen` | i shoulda backed up |
| 20:39.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40582 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 20:39.36 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: permanent |
| 20:39.43 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
| 20:39.46 | ckknight | aen`: revert a few revisions, your stuff will be there |
| 20:39.49 | hyperChipmunk | ~lart ckknight |
| 20:39.49 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets ckknight feel it |
| 20:39.56 | ckknight | the entire layout system is changing drastically. |
| 20:40.03 | ckknight | I've talked about it on the forums |
| 20:40.18 | aen` | ckknight: can u link me pls? |
| 20:40.20 | Tornhoof | wau should have some lock mode |
| 20:40.21 | ckknight | basically, the layout system was renamed the metalayout system |
| 20:40.25 | sbu | meehh lurker down |
| 20:40.26 | sbu | finally |
| 20:40.28 | vhaarr | Tornhoof: WAU2 will. |
| 20:40.29 | Tornhoof | where the author of the mod should be able to block updates |
| 20:40.32 | Tornhoof | ah ok |
| 20:40.34 | TecnoBrat | sbu, grats :) |
| 20:40.48 | ckknight | and a new layout system (not made yet) will be made on top of that metalayout system |
| 20:41.02 | ckknight | aen`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6803.0 |
| 20:41.14 | aen` | ckknight: i like how youve added in the extra text customization |
| 20:41.14 | kebinusan | You mean like tagging release stable revisions on the svn :-) Blasphemy |
| 20:41.32 | hyperChipmunk | wut r tagz? |
| 20:41.53 | hyperChipmunk | i've never made a stable release in my life |
| 20:42.03 | kebinusan | heh |
| 20:42.15 | styling | i m a problem wish pitbull and dogtag screen: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/590/sanstitreky3.png what? |
| 20:42.26 | kenlyric_ | man, instanceloot could use some love. |
| 20:42.45 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric_: like what? |
| 20:42.45 | kenlyric_ | guess once it's in there, it's stuck in there. |
| 20:43.00 | hyperChipmunk | only reason bulkmail2 has a version number greater than 1 is because i had to differentiate it from BulkMail |
| 20:43.14 | ckknight | styling: I'll be looking into that. |
| 20:43.29 | kenlyric_ | Arrowmaster: the organization. I'm guessing once an item is in there, it can't be moved. |
| 20:43.32 | ckknight | styling: oh dang, yea, I know the issue. |
| 20:43.50 | ckknight | styling: temporarily, change :PercentHP] to :PercentHP:Percent] |
| 20:43.54 | ckknight | and take out the % |
| 20:44.01 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric_: all instanceloot info is from PT3, which is from wowhead |
| 20:44.02 | aen` | fuck yes! you added moveable castbar |
| 20:44.20 | aen` | i cried about that for so long |
| 20:44.24 | styling | ok thank |
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| 20:44.50 | kenlyric_ | Arrowmaster: so it's wowhead's fault? |
| 20:45.06 | aen` | that alone is worth all the bloody reconfiguring |
| 20:45.08 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric_: if your talking about the random drops being included i suggest turning on the options for always display BoP and set the threshold so non bop items arent shown |
| 20:45.12 | Dustwhisper| | finally got lurker down for first time =D |
| 20:45.15 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric_: what exactly are you refering to? |
| 20:45.23 | kenlyric_ | Arrowmaster: pt3 |
| 20:45.32 | kenlyric_ | Instanceloot category. |
| 20:45.35 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 20:45.49 | Arrowmaster | when you said instanceloot i thought you ment carto_instanceloot |
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| 20:47.38 | Fin | oh, hey, now I understand what's going on with PitBull I have to say it's cheered me up a bit |
| 20:47.46 | hypetech | Any ideas why I would be getting a can't register event to method error? I think it may be the way I have a function nested :-\ |
| 20:48.19 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: pastey |
| 20:48.35 | Fin | it's always frustrating (as fuck) when something you use changes and breaks all the customisation you've done with it, especially when you don't know why, all the time you've spent and all that |
| 20:48.44 | ckknight | basically, the main feature for the new layout system is this: |
| 20:48.50 | Fin | but the changes you're making to PitBull are going to make it much better overall |
| 20:48.53 | ckknight | you choose a basic layout (let's say ABF) |
| 20:49.01 | ckknight | you alter it, move the portrait to the top, rearrange some icons |
| 20:49.06 | ckknight | then you save the layout, call it "Buu" |
| 20:49.13 | ckknight | then, you can either include it in PitBull proper |
| 20:49.20 | ckknight | or copy it to the forums |
| 20:49.23 | ckknight | where others can import it |
| 20:49.33 | Fin | it's nice to know that it's not just because of a whim that the developer can't be arsed to work around |
| 20:49.34 | ckknight | e.g. layouts are more Discord-style |
| 20:49.36 | ckknight | only easy |
| 20:49.37 | aen` | yeah |
| 20:49.42 | aen` | i was gonna say thats very discord ish |
| 20:49.46 | Fin | ckknight: nice one! :) |
| 20:49.51 | ckknight | Discord was great for config |
| 20:49.55 | ckknight | just bloated. |
| 20:49.57 | aen` | memory hog though |
| 20:50.05 | hypetech | arrowmaster: http://www.pastey.net/57082 I highlighted the 2 lines with the event name I'm getting the error on. |
| 20:50.09 | aen` | srsly though, ty for adding moveable castbar |
| 20:50.19 | phyber | so it will be nice and easy to make a PerfectRaid/sRF alike raid frame? nice :) |
| 20:50.26 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: so when say ABF gets updated do the changes get carried down into older 'layouts' based on ABF? |
| 20:50.38 | Fin | I'd say, though, that it might be worth releasing PitBull prior to the 39xxxwhatever revision as 1.x and the new one as 2.x, or something |
| 20:50.47 | Fin | so people can stick with what they've got or update, and stuff |
| 20:51.03 | Fin | guess it's still PitBull :) |
| 20:51.10 | Fin | eating faces |
| 20:51.22 | ckknight | nah |
| 20:51.25 | ckknight | I don't do versions |
| 20:51.30 | ckknight | too difficult |
| 20:51.46 | Fin | maybe someone'll upload it somewhere for you... :) |
| 20:51.51 | Fin | would you mind that? |
| 20:52.02 | aen` | ckknight: is there a way to hide castbar if not using? |
| 20:52.08 | Fin | you could call the updated version Rottweiler |
| 20:52.11 | Fin | or Poodle |
| 20:52.12 | ckknight | aen`: no, not really |
| 20:52.14 | kebinusan | could just tag r39xxx or w/e |
| 20:52.15 | ckknight | lol, no, Fin |
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| 20:52.24 | ckknight | kebinusan: nah, WoW 2.1.2 is coming soon |
| 20:52.27 | ckknight | not worth tagging, imho |
| 20:52.35 | kebinusan | tomorrow yea |
| 20:52.40 | Fin | not worth it for you! but for the people who want to keep their old setups... |
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| 20:53.27 | Fin | ckknight: so would you mind if someone *did* upload r39xxx somewhere, noting why? |
| 20:53.34 | Lywellyn|Away | Hello everyone. :) |
| 20:53.44 | Fin | or was that "no" referring to that (I assumed it was referring to calling PitBull "Poodle" :) |
| 20:53.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40585 10Expo/modules/PeriodicRefresh.lua: Expo - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 20:54.21 | ckknight | Fin: the poodle thing. I mean, people can get 39408 from files |
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| 20:55.17 | Fin | sure, but to help the people out who don't know about files.w.c or can't remember 39407 easily and stuff - would you mind? |
| 20:55.44 | Fin | ooh how about Greyhound |
| 20:55.53 | Fin | sleeker, faster, more... er... easily configurable? |
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| 20:56.05 | Josh_Borke | i know, i know. just bump the major and start developing against that? |
| 20:56.07 | Fin | Greyhounds are famous for their configurability |
| 20:56.10 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: any ideas? |
| 20:56.11 | phyber | what's the point of making a branch of it? |
| 20:56.21 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: yeah sorry my browser was being slow |
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| 20:56.45 | ckknight | Fin: srsly, they can wait two days |
| 20:56.48 | Fin | phyber: so people who want to can easily keep their old setup |
| 20:57.01 | Fin | ckknight: you mean, old setups will work later? |
| 20:57.02 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.25 | ckknight | Fin: oh no |
| 20:57.27 | mjc | I sold her account off on her cause she wasn't playing it so :p |
| 20:57.35 | Fin | oh |
| 20:57.55 | ckknight | you can upload it somewhere if you want |
| 20:57.56 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: what about people who don't use the SVN? |
| 20:57.59 | ckknight | I don't really care |
| 20:58.01 | ckknight | just give me credit |
| 20:58.06 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: I don't care about em. |
| 20:58.09 | Fin | well that's the only reason I would like to stick the old version somewhere, just so people who've got it all set up nicely how they like can just stick with it |
| 20:58.10 | ckknight | frankly. |
| 20:58.16 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: your not creating that function until the first one is called, to so something like that you need to create both functions at startup and use something like a variable as a flag to communicate between them |
| 20:58.16 | Fin | OK, great! |
| 20:58.24 | Fin | and of course you get credit |
| 20:58.37 | Fin | I mean, I'll say I'm the author, but I'll credit you with the inspiration |
| 20:58.52 | Fin | heheh |
| 20:59.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40588 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 20:59.25 | Arrowmaster | mjc: do you know the person you sold it to? |
| 20:59.28 | ckknight | Fin: ... uncouth |
| 20:59.35 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40589 10Expo/Expo.toc: |
| 20:59.35 | CIA-22 | Expo: |
| 20:59.35 | CIA-22 | - Re-categorized to Development Tools, where it ought to be. Only sissies use Other. |
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| 20:59.49 | mjc | Arrowmaster: yes, but he's levelled the toon beyond her ability atm |
| 20:59.58 | mjc | Arrowmaster: better not to give it back to her, she'd be lost |
| 21:00.23 | Arrowmaster | ah, if you didnt i was going to suggest password recovery |
| 21:00.42 | Arrowmaster | somebody i know that sold their account like 2 years ago recently did that |
| 21:00.45 | mjc | toon is 70 now, heroic keys, karazhan epics |
| 21:01.04 | kebinusan | mjc time to transfer to a more populated realm or ebay the acocunt |
| 21:01.24 | kebinusan | I guess that sounded too bitter |
| 21:01.34 | mjc | kebinusan: we're on a populated realm |
| 21:02.15 | mjc | she had like lvl40-50s of each class |
| 21:02.34 | kebinusan | My realm is as barren as rosie odonnell |
| 21:02.58 | mjc | suramar is pretty owned, I went back to magtheridon |
| 21:03.02 | kebinusan | maybe joan rivers was a better celeb choice, but either way, I hate this realm |
| 21:03.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40590 10GotWood/views/CircleView.lua: GotWood - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 21:03.30 | Silviu- | good night ;) |
| 21:04.08 | rubik | sooo.. that AceEvent-2.0 upcoming change will break every addon that uses it? (until authors fix) |
| 21:04.11 | Fin | I lie so well, I amaze myself - it's no wonder I won last year's Mr McLie competition for the fifth straight year, entitling me to use the name Lying Mr. Lie McLieface |
| 21:04.38 | ckknight | rubik: I'm fixing em all. |
| 21:04.45 | mjc | Arrowmaster: oh and also I usually get the CD key in a photo from someone if I'm giong to do that |
| 21:04.48 | mjc | heh |
| 21:05.03 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: I don't think I need that event at all acutally. Nothing changes if it does fire, and there shouldn't be any case that deals with polymorphing where I need to listen for it to fire, but not with the message I'm listening to. I'll just take it out. |
| 21:05.04 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: you're fixing all on the SVN |
| 21:05.10 | ckknight | yep. |
| 21:05.21 | rubik | ckknight: ahhh gotcha! cool.. |
| 21:05.23 | Josh_Borke | there will still be those released to addon websites |
| 21:05.28 | hyperChipmunk | the next thing ckkwill say: screw 'em |
| 21:05.29 | Josh_Borke | and those that people no longer develop |
| 21:05.31 | hyperChipmunk | watch |
| 21:05.37 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: actually already did |
| 21:05.38 | Josh_Borke | hyperChipmunk: he already said that |
| 21:05.50 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: it's a fringe case, it really doesn't happen often. |
| 21:06.05 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: if you say so |
| 21:06.10 | ckknight | and if it's not on SVN, I'm really not one to care about their well-being |
| 21:06.15 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it was funnier if i'd gotten it off before you continued, but i put it in the wrong window |
| 21:07.22 | Fin | and the runner up this year, hyperChipmunk, unfortunatey Lying not quite so well as Mr Lie McLieface |
| 21:07.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40591 10LatencyAlert/LatencyAlert.lua: LatencyAlert - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 21:07.56 | TecnoBrat | ckknight really doesnt even need to update the mods on the SVN |
| 21:08.00 | TecnoBrat | hes doing it just to be nice |
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| 21:08.07 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 21:08.15 | TecnoBrat | hell, hes fixing a memory leak .. so its in their best interest to update their code |
| 21:08.18 | ckknight | it'll be a timebombed fix in AceEvent-2.0 as well, I'm thinking |
| 21:08.25 | Fin | gracious my arse! lies! |
| 21:08.27 | Fin | err fibs! |
| 21:08.32 | ckknight | i.e. only go into effect after a certain time |
| 21:08.42 | Mudkipz | sounds exciting |
| 21:08.47 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 21:08.47 | Mudkipz | <_< |
| 21:08.48 | Lywellyn|Away | Holy crap. |
| 21:08.53 | TecnoBrat | like after June 30, BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM |
| 21:08.54 | Fin | OK I should stop... let it lie, so to speak |
| 21:09.04 | Kemayo | Tornhoof: WAU ignores anything which contains a .svn folder, if you're looking for a temporary locking solution. |
| 21:09.13 | Lywellyn | 24 hour maintenance for 10-11 realms? *whistles* Damn |
| 21:09.16 | Fin | although I'd be lying if I said I wanted to |
| 21:09.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40592 10nQuestLog/modules/DetailsFrame.lua: nQuestLog - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 21:09.31 | hypetech | does Unitname("target") not apply to mobs? |
| 21:09.33 | TecnoBrat | Lywellyn, US or EU? |
| 21:09.34 | ckknight | Lywellyn: I'm on those realms |
| 21:09.39 | ckknight | hypetech: UnitName |
| 21:09.42 | Lywellyn | TecnoBrat: US |
| 21:09.43 | ckknight | hypetech: it applies |
| 21:09.55 | ckknight | they're _finally_ merging Frenzy and Cataclysm |
| 21:09.57 | hypetech | ckknight: ha, case sensitive, right. blah |
| 21:09.59 | phyber | I noticed timebomb code like that in Omen. on the 6th second of the 6th minute of the 6th hour of the 6th day of the 6th month of the year that's divisible by 6, it sells all of your epics and deletes your account. |
| 21:10.00 | ckknight | which they should've done a long time ago |
| 21:10.10 | ckknight | hypetech: be sure to set "Show lua errors" in your interface options |
| 21:10.17 | ckknight | hypetech: or even better, get !BugGrabber and BugSack |
| 21:10.23 | Lywellyn | Azuremyst, Area 52, Auchindoun, Blade's Edge, Blood Furnace, Coilfang, Exodar, Shattered Halls, Terokkar, The Scryers, The Underbog, Velen, and Zangarmarsh |
| 21:11.22 | Fin | perhaps it's not the first, I should check the liebrary |
| 21:11.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40593 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 21:12.02 | Arrowmaster | speaking of buggrabber, am i the only one that thinks maybe the "Filter addon mistakes" option thats defaulted to on after every reload shouldnt hide the _BLOCKED events only the _FORBIDDEN ones? |
| 21:12.06 | Fin | I don't think it's liekely there were any prior incidents, though |
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| 21:13.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40594 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.lua: XLootMaster - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 21:14.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40595 10XRS/XRS_BuffClass.lua: XRS - change AceEvent-2.0 schedules in anticipation of a future commit, where :ScheduleEvent/:ScheduleRepeatedEvent will not return a table value. |
| 21:14.21 | Fin | should only take a bit of lieght reading to find out |
| 21:14.26 | ckknight | all done. |
| 21:14.56 | Gnarfoz | did you like, grep the entire repo for :ScheduleEvent? ^^ |
| 21:15.12 | hypetech | I'm gonna mail a nice package to the guy at blizzard who made Polymorph:Pig and Polymorph:Turtle different from just Polymorph :p |
| 21:15.14 | ckknight | find . -path '*/.svn' -prune -o -type f -print0|xargs -0 egrep -I -n "=.*Schedule(Repeating)?Event\\([^\"']" |
| 21:15.22 | hypetech | it's annoying |
| 21:15.55 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: ;-) |
| 21:16.03 | Gnarfoz | something along those lines, yes :< |
| 21:16.04 | Gnarfoz | ;] |
| 21:16.26 | Fin | haha! |
| 21:17.13 | Peoii | hypetech: wtb Polymorph:Cow |
| 21:17.36 | Mudkipz | I would dig poly cow |
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| 21:17.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 21:17.54 | Adirelle | Gnarfoz: good developpers are lazy, they will consume more time in finding sometimes that will do the job once than actually doing the job itself several times |
| 21:18.30 | Gnarfoz | I know :> |
| 21:18.30 | Mudkipz | way long ago, during Nef, we wiped and one of the warriors stayed a cow |
| 21:18.30 | ckknight | Polymorph: Rabbit? |
| 21:18.33 | Mudkipz | too small |
| 21:18.38 | ckknight | no, large rabbit. |
| 21:18.43 | vhaarr | ? |
| 21:18.44 | ckknight | like, size of a sheep |
| 21:18.47 | Mudkipz | scary rabbit you mean |
| 21:18.55 | Primer | the Monty Python rabbit |
| 21:18.57 | ckknight | easter bunny |
| 21:19.12 | Mudkipz | but some people might disagree with the easter bunny |
| 21:19.20 | vhaarr | paladins should get holy handgrenades, then |
| 21:19.24 | Matrix110| | I want being a Slime back! |
| 21:19.30 | vhaarr | that would break rabbit polys |
| 21:19.43 | Peoii | Actually, I just want Greater Polymorph outta BWL |
| 21:19.48 | Peoii | go go Poly Squirrel |
| 21:21.25 | Adirelle | d'oh, almost forgot to update before launching wow |
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| 21:22.40 | kebinusan | rabbit with big pointy teeth |
| 21:22.41 | Adirelle | sylvanaar: is there any way to gets WAU command line options ? like, say -h or --help ? |
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| 21:23.14 | stavmar | Does anyone know where to download a wowclient if you already have an account and don't have the CD-Rom/DVDs? |
| 21:24.02 | Adirelle | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 21:24.05 | purl | sylvanaar is currently on #wowi-lounge (20h 20m 41s) #wowace (20h 20m 41s). Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 56m 29s, last said: 'Funkeh` the file which should be deleted is modules.xml since it is about the same as embeds.xml. includes.xml allows you to share you "includes" between 2 toc files'. |
| 21:24.17 | Matrix110| | stavmar www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 21:24.23 | Matrix110| | or www.wow-europe.com |
| 21:25.16 | Adirelle | aaargh... ckknight, sometimes I hate you |
| 21:25.25 | stavmar | Matrix110|: although i find that site helpful it is trying to find out on that site where to get the download client. |
| 21:25.32 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: question, all these changes you're doing breaks the current addons, doesn't it? |
| 21:27.04 | ckknight | Adirelle: why? |
| 21:27.12 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: sure doesn't |
| 21:27.25 | Adirelle | ckknight: breaking pitbull's config :/ |
| 21:27.30 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: why would it? I just switched to the proper way |
| 21:27.34 | ckknight | Adirelle: yea, I know |
| 21:27.35 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 21:27.37 | ckknight | Adirelle: "my bad" |
| 21:27.39 | Adirelle | ckknight: any other planned changed on metalayout ? |
| 21:27.46 | Adirelle | s/changed/changes/ |
| 21:27.50 | ckknight | Adirelle: no, but I'll be adding another layout layer |
| 21:28.00 | ckknight | Adirelle: but shouldn't change your settings. |
| 21:28.03 | ckknight | probably. |
| 21:28.07 | Adirelle | lol |
| 21:28.19 | Adirelle | btw, any plan to enforce global settings ? |
| 21:28.37 | ckknight | I already added that |
| 21:29.07 | Adirelle | like changing every health text in one click ? |
| 21:29.15 | NeoTron | is theer a way to forcefully destroy a lua "object" (like a frame created with CreateFrame)? |
| 21:29.23 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 21:29.46 | Matrix110| | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/burningcrusade/download/index.html |
| 21:29.46 | hyperChipmunk | object = nil? |
| 21:29.48 | Matrix110| | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/bc-clientdownload.html |
| 21:29.51 | NeoTron | does removing references to a frame allow it to be gcd? |
| 21:29.58 | Matrix110| | stavmar |
| 21:30.17 | stavmar | Matrix110|: yeah? |
| 21:30.20 | Adirelle | ckknight: the new menu layout is nice |
| 21:30.23 | Matrix110| | gave you the links:P |
| 21:30.48 | ckknight | Adirelle: yep |
| 21:30.51 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40596 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: BugSack: Bugfix. |
| 21:30.57 | Mikk | lal |
| 21:31.12 | vhaarr | NeoTron: frames are never destroyed |
| 21:31.14 | stavmar | Matrix110|: thanks brother |
| 21:31.16 | Adirelle | ckknight: hmm.. can find texts like 'health text' in 'all units', do I have something to do ? |
| 21:31.18 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
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| 21:32.09 | mjc | Adirelle: <3, btw. |
| 21:32.23 | Adirelle | mjc: plait-il ? |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r40597 10BunchOfBars/ (24 files in 15 dirs): |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | BunchOfBars: |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | - now only loads when your in a party/raid |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | - New HealLines module which shows lines between a healer and it's target (default disabled) |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-22 | - Shaman debuffs for the Hots module, "Static Charge" from lady vashj added to the Dispel module |
| 21:32.56 | CIA-22 | - many bug fixes and many new bugs introduced :) |
| 21:33.12 | NeoTron | vhaarr: figured that might be the case |
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| 21:33.20 | vhaarr | now you know |
| 21:33.23 | dodgizzla | once again, dogtags gone :D man I love backups |
| 21:34.41 | TecnoBrat | Firik, o.O, screenshot of the "healLines"? :) |
| 21:34.58 | Firik | wait a sec, I'll see if I have one and upload it |
| 21:35.05 | Firik | it's really funny to see in 25 man raids |
| 21:35.07 | TecnoBrat | Cool :) |
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| 21:35.33 | Matrix110| | same as RDX lines? |
| 21:35.47 | Firik | dunno how rdx lines are |
| 21:36.06 | Firik | these lines are very very basic, just show who a healer is targeting |
| 21:36.06 | Matrix110| | lemme search the pic |
| 21:36.11 | hyperChipmunk | same as pitbull's interactlines? |
| 21:36.28 | Firik | yeah that's where I got the idea |
| 21:37.19 | ckknight | Adirelle: hrm... I'll check it out |
| 21:37.28 | Firik | http://home.wanadoo.nl/fam.dubbelboer/files/wow/WoWScrnShot_061707_210801.jpg only screenshot I have which shows them, but it shows the general idea |
| 21:40.06 | TecnoBrat | Firik, where you have Healer Mana, Caster Mana, etc, and under a list of buffs that are missing, what addon is that? |
| 21:41.17 | Firik | XRS |
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| 21:41.43 | Firik | http://wowace.com/wiki/XRS |
| 21:42.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40598 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 21:42.56 | CIA-22 | .AceEvent-2.0 - :ScheduleEvent and :ScheduleRepeatingEvent no longer return a |
| 21:42.56 | CIA-22 | value, as of August 18 (one month from now). All addons on the wowace svn have |
| 21:42.56 | CIA-22 | been updated for this change already. This allows for a memory leak to be |
| 21:42.56 | CIA-22 | plugged. |
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| 21:43.45 | TecnoBrat | hmmm I knew the top part was XRS, but I didnt know you could do buffs like that |
| 21:43.49 | TecnoBrat | I'll have to check it out |
| 21:45.02 | Tornhoof | eh |
| 21:45.10 | Tornhoof | two months? |
| 21:45.24 | Antiarc|Lunch | ckknight: What were they returning? A reference to the event created? |
| 21:45.59 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: a table id |
| 21:46.07 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: which prevented AceEvent from recycling it |
| 21:46.13 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40599 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CoilfangReservoir/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: |
| 21:46.13 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Leotheras module: when you rip yells from bigwigs make sure its not |
| 21:46.13 | CIA-22 | an arg:find you are ripping, now changed to the complete yell which seems to be |
| 21:46.13 | CIA-22 | working, changed ww gain to a fade since thats when agro resets, threat reset in |
| 21:46.13 | CIA-22 | general is still kinda buggy though |
| 21:46.26 | ckknight | Note to everyone's addons I touched: If you have an issue with the change I made, I'd be more than willing to help you ratify it. |
| 21:46.33 | Cryect | heh I hate that you can't return points for id's like that |
| 21:46.39 | Gnarfoz | is it timebombed to august 18, or july 18? |
| 21:46.40 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 21:46.42 | Cryect | pointers* |
| 21:46.57 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: err, july |
| 21:47.05 | Gnarfoz | alright :) |
| 21:47.06 | ckknight | I could bump it to August |
| 21:47.09 | ckknight | actually, I will |
| 21:47.13 | Cryect | well you said august :-p |
| 21:47.15 | ckknight | August 18, 2007 _or_ WoW 2.2 |
| 21:47.17 | ckknight | whatever comes first |
| 21:47.20 | Gnarfoz | what for? ^^ |
| 21:47.29 | TecnoBrat | 2.2 will require new tocs |
| 21:47.35 | TecnoBrat | so they should update anywasy :P |
| 21:47.51 | Cryect | I doubt an extra month will really result in people fixing it who wouldn't have in 1 month |
| 21:48.13 | TecnoBrat | problem is .. if they dont see this, they wont know of a problem will they |
| 21:48.13 | CAL|Smeltn` | whats date for 2.2? |
| 21:48.24 | Cryect | unknown |
| 21:48.30 | TecnoBrat | or is it puking an error / notice? |
| 21:48.35 | Cryect | Tomorow we get the new 2.1.x |
| 21:48.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40600 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - change timebomb of last commit to be either August 18, 2007 or WoW 2.2 (whichever comes first) |
| 21:48.59 | Cryect | kaboom! |
| 21:49.21 | kebinusan | but my system clock is running 3 months in the future |
| 21:49.27 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, what will it do in the meantime? |
| 21:49.43 | Gnarfoz | eat your ram! |
| 21:49.58 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: same as it always has. |
| 21:50.12 | Cryect | haha Funkeh` was that what was wrong? :-p |
| 21:50.13 | ckknight | kebinusan: it doesn't really matter, since all addons on the SVN are updated anyway |
| 21:50.32 | ckknight | the timebomb is in case some user is using an Ace addon that does not use the SVN or does not update everything at once |
| 21:50.41 | ckknight | also, the change _is_ a fringe case |
| 21:50.42 | TecnoBrat | because if it does nothing ... why not just change it ... if it goes boom in a month anyways ... doubt the people who aren't in SVN will even know of the change until it goes boom. |
| 21:50.46 | ckknight | that only affected 12 addons |
| 21:50.52 | Cryect | yeah and with the 2 month change now all the new addons that get made will use it wrong :-p |
| 21:51.02 | ckknight | Cryect: nope |
| 21:51.12 | ckknight | Cryect: on the wiki, all traces of the old way are gone |
| 21:51.22 | ckknight | Cryect: and all addons on the svn are updated |
| 21:51.22 | Cryect | you plan to hold their hand and make sure they don't use it wrong? |
| 21:51.32 | ckknight | so there's no reason why they would add it ;-) |
| 21:51.41 | Cryect | Well if they knew of the existance in the past |
| 21:51.44 | Cryect | and not in this channel |
| 21:51.47 | Cryect | and don't read :-p |
| 21:51.51 | Cryect | but screw them |
| 21:52.01 | Cryect | they will find out soon enough |
| 21:52.10 | hypetech | heh, I was just looking at ScheduleEvent and ScheduleRepeatingEvent to see if I could use them :p good timing |
| 21:52.23 | TecnoBrat | my point is .. if they aren't in SVN, I doubt they are really going to even know of the chanel before it goes live anyways |
| 21:52.31 | TecnoBrat | which means .. you might as well just change it |
| 21:52.37 | TecnoBrat | and let their users report it :P |
| 21:52.53 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I would just set the timebomb to 2.2, because people aren't surprised when patches break mods |
| 21:53.03 | TecnoBrat | or at least make it print some notice, so their users can report it for them to fix it |
| 21:53.04 | ckknight | ah, fair enough. |
| 21:53.11 | Antiarc|Work | Mods that suddently break one day are just bad for business |
| 21:53.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40601 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - change the timebomb to just happen at WoW 2.2 |
| 21:53.40 | hypetech | lol |
| 21:53.44 | hypetech | nice |
| 21:53.58 | ckknight | the wiki is correct now anyway |
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| 21:55.22 | Saroz | Timebomb? |
| 21:55.25 | Saroz | what?! |
| 21:55.31 | Saroz | what changed, simple example |
| 21:55.43 | Antiarc|Work | ScheduleEvent no longer returns a value |
| 21:55.51 | Saroz | ah, care is low |
| 21:55.54 | Antiarc|Work | So if you're depending on it returning one, redesign that dependency. |
| 21:55.59 | _nevcairiel | yay vashj down |
| 21:56.03 | Saroz | grats |
| 21:56.03 | Cryect | congrats |
| 21:56.33 | nevcairiel | what a fight |
| 21:56.54 | Cryect | except for the boring stage 1 |
| 21:57.02 | nevcairiel | heh yea |
| 21:57.26 | Adirelle | hmm... what about setting KTM target from TTK ? |
| 21:57.42 | Adirelle | btw, Antiarc|Work can I work with cross language targets ? |
| 21:58.12 | Antiarc|Work | You mean in TTK? |
| 21:58.22 | Adirelle | from ThreatLib |
| 21:58.35 | Antiarc|Work | Can you elaborate? |
| 21:58.41 | Adirelle | seems that KTM master target set from different locales (on client and server) seems to cause troubles |
| 21:58.51 | Adirelle | on diffrent client I mean |
| 21:59.04 | Adirelle | I seen there was something about in ThreatLib |
| 21:59.22 | Antiarc|Work | Right. Try using Threat:TranslateForeignMobName() |
| 21:59.41 | Antiarc|Work | Though that won't work if you don't have someone of the foreign locale using Threat |
| 21:59.51 | Antiarc|Work | No way to get around that, I'm afraid, though I wonder how KTM handles it. |
| 21:59.58 | Adirelle | will it mind getting non foreign names ? :p |
| 22:00.27 | Adirelle | nvm, I'll look at the code :p |
| 22:00.40 | yacoob | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RFv5i8LTek - Tonari no Totoro no DORAMA - for those who watched Totoro, lovely vid :) |
| 22:01.11 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: It shouldn't mind non-foreign names. SHould just return it as-is. |
| 22:01.47 | Cryect | yacoob: couldn't they have used a song that hasn't been used 10 million times already >_> |
| 22:01.58 | yacoob | it's good, shh. |
| 22:02.51 | Cryect | Requiem for a Dream was good the first few times (heh man its use in the movie Requiem for a Dream though sucked) then redone for LotR two towers was such a bad idea resulted in everyone using it for stuff :-p |
| 22:05.34 | kebinusan | requiem freaks me out |
| 22:06.25 | Cryect | Anyways now that I finished watching it, I would say not bad but not great. Surprised it won best of show, it barely made use of the music with the video (just felt like background music most the time) |
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| 22:08.16 | whome | ./server 208.185.81.231 OR! ./server irc.talkingirc.net |
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| 22:08.26 | chutwig | thanks for stopping by |
| 22:08.41 | Cryect | don't you feel compelled to join that server now! |
| 22:08.53 | chutwig | it calls to meeeee |
| 22:08.56 | trh | totally.. i have to restrain myself from joining it |
| 22:09.04 | Cryect | its talking irc, just imagine it talks to you |
| 22:09.22 | trh | i wonder what it'd say |
| 22:09.46 | Gnarfoz | in Soviet Russia IRC talks to you! |
| 22:10.21 | Antiarc|Work | Ahahahah. |
| 22:10.27 | Antiarc|Work | It's like the coming and going of the seasons |
| 22:10.30 | rubik | good ole /. |
| 22:10.37 | Antiarc|Work | This time every year, a great QQing arises from the depths of the internet. |
| 22:10.43 | Antiarc|Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=B6ECBDEFB86E836DAA05B9663C8ABEA5?topicId=110416004&sid=1 -> http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=70864 |
| 22:10.45 | Cryect | hmm |
| 22:10.51 | Mudkipz | we got this russian paladin in the guild with heavy accent |
| 22:10.52 | Antiarc|Work | Whine on, little botters. Whine on. |
| 22:10.55 | Mudkipz | oh hilarious |
| 22:11.07 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: just wait till tomorrow :-p |
| 22:11.17 | rubik | god, blizz forums make such fugly urls |
| 22:11.22 | Cryect | They have revamped the warden code to catch a lot more stuff from what I understand |
| 22:11.39 | Industrial | there was a (massive) ban wave recently |
| 22:11.41 | Cryect | Hehe friend said he got "banned" 22 times from PTR before he figure out what they changed |
| 22:12.09 | Antiarc|Work | The most anti-TOS thing I've ever done is write a DBC parser, so honestly, I don't usually keep up to date on the warden's latest greatest :) |
| 22:12.32 | Cryect | I believe thats legit in the most recent TOS |
| 22:13.15 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, really? |
| 22:13.23 | Cryect | Yeah they removed the datamining stuff |
| 22:13.23 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe I should publish 'em then |
| 22:13.27 | Antiarc|Work | Excellent. |
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| 22:13.34 | rubik | publish++ please |
| 22:13.41 | Cryect | shrug dbc parser's are easy to write |
| 22:13.52 | Antiarc|Work | They're handy little tools. Give it a DBC or WDB file and it dumps it into a MySQL database. |
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| 22:13.58 | rubik | was looking for some parser code a while ago and couldn't find.. or maybe i sucked at teh googling |
| 22:14.23 | Cryect | there isn't much code online, uh there is some crappy dbc parsing code in WoWMapView :-p |
| 22:14.30 | rubik | i know i found the documented file offsets and started working on some parser but gave up/got bored |
| 22:14.48 | Cryect | figuring out the DBC format etc is the hard part if you don't know the specific dbc structure |
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| 22:15.12 | Cryect | Now if Antiarc|Work's code figures out the types on its own that would be cool |
| 22:15.22 | Cryect | but anything you are doing for serious you would specify the type anyways |
| 22:15.36 | ag` | hey ckknight, ping |
| 22:16.15 | ckknight | pang |
| 22:18.11 | krka | brillant! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6063-AceCalc-ACommandlineCalculator.html |
| 22:18.29 | Mikk | ok.. sod it.. i'm stuck... how do you get an aceoption type="text" to not barf when it's in a passing group? my menu bombs out on me mumbling something about "Handler" and "nil" when I try to display it |
| 22:18.45 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: Pastey |
| 22:18.51 | ckknight | krka: hehe |
| 22:18.54 | ckknight | krka: I use /print |
| 22:18.54 | hyperChipmunk | krka: .... |
| 22:19.02 | hyperChipmunk | /dump 1+2 |
| 22:19.03 | ckknight | the main reason for /print is so I could have a nice calculator |
| 22:19.05 | rubik | yeah.. how is that diff than /dump ? |
| 22:19.05 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:19.16 | ag` | ckknight, do you create any of your unit frames OnInitialize? |
| 22:19.49 | ckknight | no |
| 22:19.54 | ckknight | OnEnable is the first place |
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| 22:20.02 | ckknight | for just regular frames |
| 22:20.11 | ckknight | any clusters are created at Ace2_FullyInitialized |
| 22:20.43 | ag` | ckknight, lets say you wanted to create them OnInit so they would be available even if you logged in while in combat |
| 22:21.00 | ag` | wouldn't that be a problem, as some modules might not be available at that time? |
| 22:21.28 | krka | you're all wrong! /dump and /print allow too complex expressions - acecalc only allows simple expressions |
| 22:21.34 | krka | it's thus better for normal users |
| 22:22.11 | rubik | krka: lol. true. |
| 22:22.24 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: http://ace.pastey.net/57095 |
| 22:22.28 | aen` | ckknight: still getting weird bar delay errors |
| 22:22.36 | Adirelle | ckknight: there's something wrong with setting colors, at least threat bar one$ |
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| 22:23.03 | ckknight | ag`: yea... |
| 22:23.07 | ckknight | ag`: actually no |
| 22:23.20 | ckknight | ag`: since as modules are added, the frames are updated, it's just more efficient to wait till they're all up |
| 22:23.39 | ckknight | ag`: also, you can create frames up until PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 22:23.58 | ckknight | Adirelle: hrm. |
| 22:24.22 | Adirelle | ckknight: messed up with r,g,b I guess. |
| 22:24.35 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: Heh, beyond me |
| 22:25.06 | Mikk | http://ace.pastey.net/57095 <--- HEEEEEEELP... pass=true and type="text" hates meeeehh!! |
| 22:26.52 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40602 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
| 22:27.00 | Mikk | I'm dynamically adding type="execute" that aren't editable and they pass their values just fine |
| 22:28.23 | TecnoBrat | who said they were writing a swslog thing? |
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| 22:29.53 | rubik | someone said they would? |
| 22:30.04 | rubik | from that one thread on the wowace forums? |
| 22:30.06 | TecnoBrat | I heard someone say it earlier .. lemme search my log |
| 22:30.43 | TecnoBrat | -12:04:59- (sbu) Antiarc|Work: need something like that to build SW unilog replacement |
| 22:30.50 | TecnoBrat | sbu it is! |
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| 22:31.46 | ckknight | Mikk: you're missing get. |
| 22:31.50 | ckknight | Mikk: set it to false |
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| 22:33.17 | Mikk | ckknight: cheers |
| 22:33.58 | kenlyric | sigh. what did I break? |
| 22:34.22 | yac_oob | me! |
| 22:34.26 | yac_oob | just look :( |
| 22:35.00 | Adirelle | ckknight: definitively something borker with SetColor in threat, to have red I have to select yellow, (1,1,0) -> (1, 0, 0), and when I select blue I get cyan (0,0,1) -> (0,1,1) |
| 22:35.02 | kenlyric | dunno what I did, but I broke pt3 and then fixed it. |
| 22:35.35 | sbu | meh TecnoBrat, but it really sucks :o |
| 22:35.38 | sbu | event processing is fine |
| 22:35.43 | sbu | but display/output... :/ |
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| 22:36.30 | sbu | i have no idea how to build some scrollable table frame |
| 22:37.42 | hyperChipmunk | tablet ftw |
| 22:37.51 | Adirelle | wait... there is now group in color settings... |
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| 22:38.14 | TecnoBrat | sbu, whats it called? |
| 22:38.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40603 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - rearrange some lines |
| 22:38.33 | sbu | TecnoBrat: its called "only on my hdd" :p |
| 22:38.41 | TecnoBrat | thats a lame name! |
| 22:38.53 | TecnoBrat | should be called "WhoBrokeThePoly" |
| 22:39.01 | TecnoBrat | Thats what I use swsunilog for :P |
| 22:39.05 | sbu | started today with some event stuff - but then realized that output is going to be tricky |
| 22:39.12 | sbu | so i tried some stuff there and stopped then ;p |
| 22:39.13 | sbu | hm |
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| 22:39.23 | NeoTron | what is sws unilog anyway? |
| 22:39.38 | TecnoBrat | filterable combat log |
| 22:39.44 | NeoTron | ah |
| 22:39.49 | TecnoBrat | so you can like select target, source, etc |
| 22:39.55 | rubik | definitely sounds useful... |
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| 22:40.01 | NeoTron | I just use a filtered one that just shows my own stuff |
| 22:40.06 | TecnoBrat | and it will show you what happened, stores quite a bit of data |
| 22:40.08 | NeoTron | although I do miss having other stuff in there at times |
| 22:40.20 | TecnoBrat | this allows you to show just your stuff in your normal one |
| 22:40.20 | NeoTron | sounds like it'd quickly use up a lot of memory |
| 22:40.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40604 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - remove a bunch of global references |
| 22:40.29 | TecnoBrat | and then can go look at how the tank died |
| 22:40.46 | TecnoBrat | NeoTron, depends on how many lines you have it store |
| 22:41.27 | TecnoBrat | --Maximum amount of stored comabt log messages |
| 22:41.28 | TecnoBrat | SW_UL_MAX_BUFFER = 10000; |
| 22:41.35 | TecnoBrat | so 10k lines |
| 22:42.21 | NeoTron | I'd love something like that that gets reset each fight |
| 22:42.45 | NeoTron | so we can figure out who it was that pulled an add in mag's lair when were not ready to start and half the raid was outside the gate :P |
| 22:42.54 | NeoTron | but it suffers from combat log range I presume? |
| 22:43.02 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: I just usually look in the combat log to see who died first. |
| 22:43.05 | rubik | hmm.. 10k lines is rather small, no? |
| 22:43.10 | TecnoBrat | I believe it syncs with sws |
| 22:43.35 | rubik | just checked a log of a 4-hour raid in Karazhan my guild ran last week and it had 99781 lines |
| 22:44.15 | TecnoBrat | you normally arent going to care what happened 4 hours ago |
| 22:44.16 | [Ammo] | 10 people, 10k lines each? |
| 22:44.27 | [Ammo] | you didn't reach the limit! |
| 22:44.44 | rubik | sorry, that was one person's log (mine) |
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| 22:44.56 | rubik | logging *everything* within 200 yds |
| 22:45.21 | rubik | for teh WWS thingy |
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| 22:46.18 | [Ammo] | rubik: UnitLog is not /combatlog |
| 22:46.46 | rubik | hmm.. my bad then.. was lead to believe it's a searchable/filter-able combatlog |
| 22:47.43 | [Ammo] | sws unilog is an addon, /combatlog is a default blizzard thing |
| 22:47.56 | rubik | right.. got that part |
| 22:48.01 | Saroz | uhm, why does some addons go Options /foo about is disabled" |
| 22:48.02 | TecnoBrat | its the same data tho |
| 22:48.05 | TecnoBrat | essentially |
| 22:48.11 | Saroz | "option /foo about is disabled" even |
| 22:48.25 | [Ammo] | because their about is disabled! |
| 22:48.30 | Saroz | but.. why |
| 22:48.37 | Saroz | it needs to be manually enabled? |
| 22:48.41 | Saroz | since when? |
| 22:48.43 | [Ammo] | no |
| 22:48.48 | TecnoBrat | because their addons are private |
| 22:48.54 | Saroz | /srf about |
| 22:48.59 | Saroz | disabled, worked like a month ago |
| 22:48.59 | TecnoBrat | they dont like you knowing about them :P |
| 22:49.00 | [Ammo] | it's the disabled = true |
| 22:49.06 | [Ammo] | in aceoptions table |
| 22:49.56 | Saroz | someone do "/pitbull about" |
| 22:50.19 | hypetech | NeoTron: expiration is a good mod to find out what happened in those "wtf was that" kind of wipes |
| 22:50.22 | ckknight | won't work, Saroz |
| 22:50.27 | Saroz | why not? |
| 22:50.34 | ckknight | because /pitbull opens a dewdrop |
| 22:50.35 | kenlyric | works for me |
| 22:50.49 | kenlyric | yeah, what he said. |
| 22:50.53 | Saroz | ... |
| 22:51.48 | ckknight | I mean, you can click About in the menu |
| 22:52.11 | ckknight | I'm thinking that maybe I'll change the about thing to pop up a nice-looking window one day |
| 22:52.46 | Saroz | ok, but, correct me if I am wrong - but didnt /addon about take info from the .toc and disably it once? |
| 22:53.28 | ckknight | normally. |
| 22:53.41 | ckknight | if you mean display |
| 22:53.50 | Saroz | in chat1 |
| 22:53.58 | ckknight | yep. |
| 22:54.00 | ckknight | ChatFrame1 |
| 22:54.10 | Saroz | doesnt work in violation, srf, nrt, bigwigs |
| 22:54.21 | Saroz | ag_uf neither |
| 22:55.12 | Funkeh` | works for me |
| 22:55.14 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.19 | Funkeh` | printed it ok |
| 22:55.26 | Saroz | doesnt here, odd |
| 22:55.38 | Saroz | AceAddon seems to inject it |
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| 22:56.32 | Eyes-t | hi |
| 22:56.45 | TecnoBrat | ih |
| 22:57.24 | ckknight | Saroz: yep. |
| 22:57.30 | Eyes-t | Im looking for a mos kinda of like mobinfo |
| 22:57.34 | Eyes-t | mod^ |
| 22:58.17 | Holyfaith | you mean database-like addon, or to just show estimated hp of the mobs? |
| 22:58.30 | trh | err.. it can only calc TWO numbers? |
| 22:58.33 | Eyes-t | data base that tells you what you farmed |
| 22:58.34 | Saroz | Eyes-t, doesn't exist |
| 22:58.37 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40605 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Blizz/Blizz.lua Comments/Comments.lua Tracker/Tracker.lua): |
| 22:58.37 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 22:58.37 | CIA-22 | - Remove unnecessary uses of SecureHook. (Drycoded, so it might break things.) |
| 22:58.40 | trh | damn scrollbuffer |
| 22:58.54 | Saroz | ckknight, but it's not in the options table |
| 22:58.55 | Eyes-t | how many greens/blues/epics in what ever time |
| 22:59.05 | Eyes-t | that can be reset |
| 22:59.06 | ckknight | Saroz: are you using AceAddon? |
| 22:59.19 | Saroz | yes |
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| 23:01.51 | Holyfaith | Eyes-t: hmmm, wouldn't be a better using Mendeleev, if you want to see ~ droprate of the items ingame? I think mobinfo is overkill, it's just too much info IMO |
| 23:02.46 | Eyes-t | yeah, thats i thought to about modinfo, this is just something like a meter that say yo kill x amount of mobs and x amount of greens have dropped x amount of blues x amount of epics |
| 23:04.43 | hypetech | why does it matter how many have dropped? |
| 23:05.03 | Eyes-t | just to see how much i farmed in a certain amount of time |
| 23:05.10 | hypetech | o |
| 23:05.20 | Antiarc|Work | I really, really need to rewrite ArmorMeter |
| 23:05.32 | Antiarc|Work | Nobody's replicated it for me yet. |
| 23:05.33 | TecnoBrat | Does anyone use ArenaPoints? |
| 23:05.41 | TecnoBrat | I can't seem to get it to display points anymore |
| 23:05.51 | TecnoBrat | it just stopped working one day |
| 23:05.54 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r40606 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Cleanup |
| 23:06.26 | Antiarc|Work | One-hit accurate mitigation derivation = hawtness |
| 23:06.55 | TecnoBrat | how is it possible 1 hit is accurate? |
| 23:07.04 | Antiarc|Work | Because there are skills that do fixed damage :D |
| 23:07.08 | Antiarc|Work | Like Bloodthirst |
| 23:07.16 | Antiarc|Work | It's always 45% of your AP unmitigated |
| 23:07.18 | Holyfaith | Eyes-t hmm, if you need such info about money, I think MoneyFu is good enough, and greenies goes to disenchanters anyway => money/enchants |
| 23:07.42 | Antiarc|Work | So if I have 3000 AP, then my BT on a 0-armor target will be 1350 |
| 23:07.53 | Eyes-t | lol yeah agree... i do have money fu |
| 23:07.56 | Antiarc|Work | 1 - (actual BT / max BT) = mitigation % |
| 23:08.06 | Antiarc|Work | Then you just run that through a mitigation -> AC function and boom. |
| 23:08.12 | Antiarc|Work | One hit, damn accurate mitigation info. |
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| 23:08.59 | Antiarc|Work | I could rewrite it using one of the Parser libs really quickly, I suspect |
| 23:09.07 | Antiarc|Work | But I also had group comms stuff, so that it'd share mitigation info |
| 23:09.16 | Antiarc|Work | So if a warrior BTs a mob, the whole raid gets mitigation info |
| 23:09.28 | Antiarc|Work | It also projected the % damage increase from various skills |
| 23:09.43 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r40607 10MementoMori/ (MementoMori.lua MementoMori.toc): |
| 23:09.43 | CIA-22 | MementoMori: |
| 23:09.43 | CIA-22 | - Slash commands |
| 23:09.43 | CIA-22 | - Allow user adjustment to "Member limit" setting |
| 23:09.44 | Antiarc|Work | So you could see that Faerie Fire would increase melee damage on the mob by X% given the mob's current debuffs and mitigation level |
| 23:11.15 | TecnoBrat | so like hunters mark, etc too? |
| 23:11.32 | Antiarc|Work | Hunter's Mark doesn't do any damage or affect mitigation |
| 23:11.36 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: SanityItemCache:MatchExpr protects " " in quotes strings by replacing it with _ but never unprotects it |
| 23:11.52 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: I think TheKarn committed a fix to that in a branch |
| 23:11.55 | TecnoBrat | sorry, I was thinking of imp faerie fire |
| 23:11.56 | Antiarc|Work | But thank you :D |
| 23:12.14 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40608 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: use upvalues in some modules |
| 23:12.21 | Holyfaith | what does CrowBar do? (in desc.: Open those things for LEWT!) |
| 23:12.48 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: it looks like a one-line fix... make line 553: token = token:gsub("\"",""):gsub("_", " ") |
| 23:13.04 | Funkeh` | ckknight: what happened to the AL2.2 branch of changes that killed everything |
| 23:13.06 | Antiarc|Work | I'll go do that before I forget |
| 23:13.13 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work, you'd have to handle imp sunder too |
| 23:13.16 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.27 | Funkeh` | not looking further into it? |
| 23:13.35 | hypetech | Holyfaith: makes it to where you don't need keys for locked chests ^_^ |
| 23:13.46 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat: Err? Imp Sunder just reduces the rage cost |
| 23:13.46 | pastamancer | of course it hoses any search with a "_" in it, but I don't think that's really an issue |
| 23:13.57 | Antiarc|Work | Nah |
| 23:14.11 | Antiarc|Work | I can't think of any strings in WoW items that include _ |
| 23:14.40 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I am |
| 23:14.41 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40609 10PitBull/ThreatBar/ThreatBar.lua: |
| 23:14.42 | CIA-22 | PitBull |
| 23:14.42 | CIA-22 | - fixed threat bar color setting. |
| 23:14.50 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 23:15.01 | pastamancer | I'll bug you later about changing the filtering stuff to use compiled closures, since that's a much bigger change :) |
| 23:15.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07AceLocale-StrictOptimizations * r40610 10Ace2/: .Ace2 - Remove AceLocale optimization branch |
| 23:15.27 | ckknight | Adirelle: thanks |
| 23:15.35 | Adirelle | ckknight: np |
| 23:15.36 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: Hehe, ok |
| 23:16.17 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: I figure since filters are used way more often then they are created, parsing them once would allow for a more robust tokenizer/parser and faster matching |
| 23:16.18 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work, blah, I'm a retard :P |
| 23:16.46 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: Aye, agreed. |
| 23:17.02 | Antiarc|Work | SanityBags hardly works, let alone runs optimized :D |
| 23:17.16 | pastamancer | hehe |
| 23:17.37 | pastamancer | it's soo... functional though |
| 23:17.53 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40611 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: Don't wrap mem increase since last GC numbers in parens. |
| 23:18.22 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40612 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
| 23:18.22 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 23:18.22 | CIA-22 | - try to translate master target name using ThreatLib, |
| 23:18.22 | CIA-22 | - added more activation checks : will not activate unless player is in party/raid and some KTM messages have been seen. |
| 23:18.46 | hypetech | is there any documentation on accessing time features in ace? like "if x happens in the next 30 seconds, then do y" |
| 23:18.53 | Antiarc|Work | I'll really like SanityBags once I get it working like I want |
| 23:19.00 | TecnoBrat | Adirelle, if you really want to have proper compatibility, you need to activate when you are at the auction house. |
| 23:19.00 | Antiarc|Work | But I just use the stock bags right now :P |
| 23:19.28 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat is right. You never know when the auctioneer is going to aggro you and a GM will buff him into a raid boss. |
| 23:19.30 | kergoth` | i dropped baggins since its a beast and i dont use its flexibility.. went back to vbagnon, but i'd like to use sanitybags once its finished :) |
| 23:19.51 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work, rofl |
| 23:19.54 | pastamancer | more generally, I've been thinking about how to store lots of combat log data lately |
| 23:20.12 | TecnoBrat | pastamancer, what for? |
| 23:20.20 | Antiarc|Work | pastamancer: Implement bzip in Lua? |
| 23:20.22 | Adirelle | damn, I have to add a few hundred of OnUpdate here and there |
| 23:20.42 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: more like sqlite |
| 23:20.58 | pastamancer | for post-mortem fight analysis |
| 23:21.17 | TecnoBrat | for a swsunilog? :P |
| 23:21.34 | pastamancer | well, I'm aiming more for omniscence |
| 23:21.46 | pastamancer | not that I'll actually get anything useful written with my schedule |
| 23:22.20 | pastamancer | so remote query and query cursors seemed important |
| 23:24.14 | Fin | I've just thought of a truly horrible thing |
| 23:24.33 | Fin | Josh Abram's "Bassline" rewritten as "Aceline" |
| 23:25.07 | NeoTron | pastamancer: tried wow web stats? |
| 23:25.21 | pastamancer | NeoTron: that's not in-game though |
| 23:25.25 | NeoTron | right |
| 23:25.30 | ZealotOnAStick | what's the command to take a text string and return it with 1st letter capitalized, rest lowercase? |
| 23:25.30 | Fin | /o~ A word about my weakness, I'm totally addicted to Ace ~o/ |
| 23:25.38 | ZealotOnAStick | lower() makes it all lowercase . . . |
| 23:25.52 | NeoTron | something I'd love to do sometime is to get timeline graphs |
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| 23:26.22 | NeoTron | like a graph over time with someone's DPS, relative HP (to see if the tank usually was low or high on HP), healing done etc |
| 23:26.22 | pastamancer | doesn't Recount or something like that have timeline graphs? |
| 23:26.47 | Primer | NeoTron: mrtg for wow? :) |
| 23:26.56 | NeoTron | heh of sorts |
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| 23:27.21 | pastamancer | GraphLib isn't quite RRD, but it's pretty slick |
| 23:27.40 | NeoTron | I want to see if my theory on mage DPS being so low is caused by going OOM (i.e it'd start high and then drop off) or just sucking |
| 23:27.54 | NeoTron | how do you draw graphs using wow's api? |
| 23:27.59 | NeoTron | or do I even want to know? :) |
| 23:28.04 | pastamancer | you don't want to know |
| 23:28.06 | Primer | NeoTron: I'd say your theory is sound |
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| 23:28.23 | NeoTron | I can imagine using a lot of varying sized frames.. |
| 23:28.35 | pastamancer | it's stranger than that |
| 23:28.41 | pastamancer | SetTextureCoords |
| 23:29.01 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 23:29.06 | NeoTron | sounds .. magical |
| 23:29.12 | ckknight | :SetTexCoord |
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| 23:29.42 | NeoTron | but you need one frame per data point? |
| 23:29.57 | pastamancer | NeoTron: ah, recount almost does what you want... almost http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot061607120751kb6.jpg |
| 23:30.23 | NeoTron | might have to check that out |
| 23:30.34 | pastamancer | it's on the svn |
| 23:30.38 | Primer | that's cool |
| 23:30.39 | NeoTron | so I figured |
| 23:30.57 | Holyfaith | can't get rid off the "N" (north) text in the minimap. Any ideas? I think blizz implemented this in patch 2.1 (? maybe), since I don't remember seeing that... |
| 23:31.15 | ckknight | Holyfaith: simpleMinimap? |
| 23:31.44 | Holyfaith | ckknight I have SMM, tried everything it offers, still there |
| 23:31.53 | pastamancer | I don't think you can get rid onf the N, it's part of the minimap texture |
| 23:33.10 | rubik | ZealotOnAStick: on the proper casing thing.. any of this work in wow lua? http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringRecipes |
| 23:33.19 | Holyfaith | too bad. Blizzard changed that in 2.1, didn't they? I am sure it wasn't there prior that damn patch. |
| 23:33.41 | pastamancer | Holyfaith: I think it has to do with the rotating minimap functionality |
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| 23:33.52 | rubik | it's there just in case you forget that up == north.. duh++ |
| 23:34.22 | Funkeh` | NYMBIA |
| 23:34.27 | nymbia | WHERE |
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| 23:35.19 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40613 10RangeCheck-1.0/ (. RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua RangeCheck-1.0.toc libs/): RangeCheck-1.0: removed embedded libs, and some optimization (hopefully) |
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| 23:35.42 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: KTM handle translation by looking at target sender's target |
| 23:36.24 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, that makes sense. |
| 23:36.52 | Adirelle | dunno if I should do it too |
| 23:36.59 | Adirelle | can I report translation to ThreatLib ? |
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| 23:37.31 | Adirelle | it may pollute the cache |
| 23:37.39 | hypetech | what does %s give you in a stringz? |
| 23:37.42 | hypetech | string* |
| 23:37.54 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r40614 10cgProfiler/ (profile/profile.lua raids/raids.lua): |
| 23:37.54 | CIA-22 | cgProfiler - |
| 23:37.55 | CIA-22 | - More Bug Fixes |
| 23:38.29 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: It's used for formatting. |
| 23:38.50 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Hrm. I think that ThreatLib just needs to special-case the KTM MT |
| 23:39.13 | Antiarc|Work | Though we won't have a locale associated with it. |
| 23:39.16 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: I was looking in the docs for AceEvent and saw function MyAddon:UNIT_BUFF(person) -- called whenever the event is fired. |
| 23:39.16 | hypetech | print(string.format("%s's buffs have changed", person)) |
| 23:39.25 | hypetech | just wondered what it gave you |
| 23:39.30 | Antiarc|Work | Right, that substitutes %s with the value of person |
| 23:39.33 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: actually, I override most of ThreatLib KTM handling in TTK |
| 23:40.02 | Antiarc|Work | string.format("%s %s", "foo", "bar") gives you "foo bar" |
| 23:40.13 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: k |
| 23:40.15 | Antiarc|Work | string.format("::%s-%s::", "foo", "bar") gives you "::foo-bar::", etc |
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| 23:40.39 | hypetech | guess that's just so you don't have to use confusion concats? |
| 23:40.44 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 23:40.46 | hypetech | cool |
| 23:40.47 | hypetech | thank you |
| 23:40.47 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: though I'm thinking of putting back a lot of things back into ThreatLib, instead of exposing ThreatLib's internals only for TTK |
| 23:40.50 | Antiarc|Work | Can also do number formatting |
| 23:41.01 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Go for it. The plan's to roll it into Threat anyway :) |
| 23:41.14 | Adirelle | well... "a lot"... at least OnKLHTMComm |
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| 23:41.45 | Gagorian | Hmm, what's more efficient local foo = "foo"; local bar = "bar"; local string = foo .. "" .. bar or string formating em together? |
| 23:41.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40615 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer_LookNFeel - add back in the Active toggle. |
| 23:42.11 | ckknight | Gagorian: probably the concat |
| 23:42.18 | ckknight | Gagorian: since it's all at one time |
| 23:42.33 | ckknight | Gagorian: if it were two concats (yours is technically one), it'd be better to use format |
| 23:42.48 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I'm hesitating about adding things into it... I'm using some events (with bucketting) in TTK |
| 23:43.38 | Gagorian | ckknight: Alright. I think I'll switch to using string.format in tooltip creation then |
| 23:44.07 | ckknight | Gagorian: what is good is to use table.concat as well |
| 23:44.14 | ckknight | local t = new() -- assuming you're using recycling |
| 23:44.21 | ckknight | t[#t+1] = "Happy" |
| 23:44.27 | ckknight | t[#t+1] = " Birthday," |
| 23:44.31 | ckknight | t[#t+1] = " Gagorian" |
| 23:44.37 | ckknight | local s = table.concat(t) |
| 23:44.39 | ckknight | t = del(t) |
| 23:44.49 | ckknight | assert(s == "Happy Birthday, Gagorian") |
| 23:44.57 | Adirelle | Gagorian, is it your birthday, today ? |
| 23:45.08 | Gagorian | Nah ;) |
| 23:45.15 | Adirelle | ckknight: you're wrong |
| 23:45.18 | ckknight | happy birthday, man |
| 23:45.34 | aen` | anyone know why decursive keeps resetting the live list pos? |
| 23:45.37 | Adirelle | ckknight: btw, won't be heavier to create a table than concatening the strings ? |
| 23:46.17 | ckknight | Adirelle: if you recycle, it's not an issue |
| 23:46.25 | Adirelle | I meant when there is a fixed number of strings |
| 23:46.36 | Adirelle | right |
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| 23:47.09 | ckknight | it all depends |
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| 23:47.29 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r40616 10cgProfiler/profile/profile.lua: |
| 23:47.29 | CIA-22 | cgProfiler - |
| 23:47.30 | CIA-22 | - more fixes |
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| 23:48.30 | hypetech | lol @ ammo....from candybar-2.0.lua "-- Load this bitch! --" |
| 23:48.31 | hypetech | :p |
| 23:48.42 | Funkeh` | ' In 2.2.0, SecureCmdOptionParse() has been rewritten in C++ for blindingly fast performance! ' lol |
| 23:48.52 | Funkeh` | hypetech: thats from tek's stub afaik |
| 23:49.30 | Adirelle | night |
| 23:50.01 | ckknight | Funkeh`: link |
| 23:50.13 | Gagorian | ckknight: Thanks. If I'd use table.concat it'd become a bit messy though. |
| 23:50.21 | ckknight | maybe |
| 23:50.25 | ckknight | I do it occasionally |
| 23:50.42 | Gagorian | It's stuff like L["Coeffs:"], TooltipData.DmgM .. "/" .. TooltipData.SpellDmgM .."/" .. TooltipData.SpellDmg |
| 23:50.54 | Antiarc|Work | 1m loops with the same table, table.concat is 5.99 sec, manual concat is 4.68 sec, string.format is 22.3 sec |
| 23:51.18 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40617 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: |
| 23:51.18 | CIA-22 | GraphLib - Fixes a missing starting variable for realtime graphs |
| 23:51.18 | CIA-22 | -Adds some code to various set axis functions to not force an update if the value passed is the same |
| 23:51.18 | CIA-22 | -:SetWidth & :SetHeight for realtime graphs now both immediately refresh the |
| 23:51.18 | CIA-22 | grid so shouldn't have it jutting out anymore when resizing (performance is |
| 23:51.19 | CIA-22 | kinda slow thogh if you have profiling enabled and resizing with a mouse) |
| 23:51.29 | Antiarc|Work | Could probably speed up table.concat by upvalueing it. |
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| 23:51.53 | Cryect | and infinite loops with nothing |
| 23:51.53 | Funkeh` | ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&postId=1103969789&sid=1#82 |
| 23:51.59 | Industrial | anyone wanna cyber? |
| 23:52.04 | Funkeh` | yeh Industrial |
| 23:52.12 | Industrial | http://confabio.com/wowi-lounge |
| 23:52.12 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: That's a single concatenation? |
| 23:52.14 | Industrial | =D |
| 23:52.46 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: http://ace.pastey.net/57097 |
| 23:52.53 | hypetech | what the hell is a green post? |
| 23:53.05 | Cryect | no spaces how pboring! |
| 23:53.20 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: CM |
| 23:53.22 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 23:53.22 | Industrial | Funkeh`; well? |
| 23:53.23 | Antiarc|Work | MVP |
| 23:53.28 | Industrial | Funkeh`; gogo webcamslut |
| 23:53.37 | Funkeh` | i have no cam |
| 23:53.49 | Industrial | pff |
| 23:53.55 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40618 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: koKR Update |
| 23:54.22 | Gagorian | Thanks Antiarc|Work. Testing a few things :) |
| 23:55.10 | ckknight | hey, anybody have a webcam? |
| 23:55.11 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: CM?.... |
| 23:55.14 | ckknight | join the cyber-orgy |
| 23:55.17 | Industrial | http://confabio.com/wowi-lounge |
| 23:55.20 | Industrial | woop woop |
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| 23:56.47 | Antiarc|Work | Actually, based on the results of that, I'm gonna get rid of all the string formatting I can in Threat and Omen. Oof. |
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| 23:57.26 | Antiarc|Work | 3.5 sec to do 1m number roundings with v = math_floor(v * 100) / 100, 27 sec to do it with ("%2.2f"):format(v) |
| 23:58.48 | sbu | FuBar_QuestsFu-r40605\Blizz\Blizz.lua:175: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook secure function "QuestLog_Update" |
