IRC log for #wowace on 20070617

00:00.07Saint-Nits 41cents to mail shit these days right?
00:00.10AntiarcKalman|: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/vtthreat.txt
00:00.21kenlyricit's only 30 in WoW
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00:00.43NightHawkTheSaneSaint-N: yeah ><
00:01.06Kemayonymbia: PT3-InstanceLoot is missing Old Serra'kis from BFD.
00:02.04hyperChipmunkafk for a bit; if you have any problems with the new BMI stuff, I'll be back in about 20min to tell you where you can stick it
00:02.17CIA-2203kemayo * r40286 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer_InstanceNotes: Fix capitalization on Aku'mai and Old Serra'kis.
00:02.48CIA-2203kemayo * r40287 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
00:02.48CIA-22Babble-2.2:
00:02.48CIA-22-Add Old Serra'kis to BFD.
00:03.01abyssichatehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07W7-4Meffo&mode=related&search=
00:03.49BankZdamn VoiceOverly doesnt seem to work in vista
00:03.54Kalman|Antiarc: Looks correct to me.
00:04.32xtBankZ: get another monitor :)
00:04.49Kalman|BankZ: Logitech G15.
00:05.25Dustwhisperwhat would cause WOW to prohibit you from typing /cmd YourOption
00:05.28Dustwhispercan't hit enter >_<
00:05.33Funkeh`ckknight: sort function is faded out without CPU prifiling, would be nice to sort by increasing memory
00:05.50Funkeh`profiling*
00:06.21ckknightyou choose the sort.
00:06.56BankZxt: Monitor?
00:07.30Funkeh`ckknight: sorry? im trying to say i cannot choose it
00:07.36ckknightah
00:07.47kenlyricnew boss in BFD?
00:07.51AntiarcAnyone know if mana gains would fire for non-mana users?
00:08.03Funkeh`i can ask
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00:08.10AntiarcI can test it, I'm just being lazy
00:08.19kenlyricAntiarc they don't in the combat log.
00:08.20KriLL3Could I get some input on these rough drafts? using a custom addon I pieced together with considerable help to make eePanels shift all elements depending on form, and show/hide bars http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9623/wowscrnshot061707015742mg6.jpg http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9907/wowscrnshot061707015756dj9.jpg
00:08.28Antiarckenlyric: I'm more concerned with the events :)
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00:08.44KriLL3shown are catform and caster UIs
00:08.51PeoiiAntiarc: Oh hey, have you considered Master of Elements as a mana regen ability?
00:09.09PeoiiI dunno if it generates extra threat, but we definately get mana back from it.
00:09.12AntiarcPeoii: Yeah, all regen is caught
00:09.16Peoiik, cool
00:09.18AntiarcAll explicit mana gains, etc
00:10.01Funkeh`thats a good point
00:10.07Funkeh`i don't think it would produce threat
00:10.15Funkeh`to a non mana class
00:10.30Funkeh`would be a bit stupid if it did
00:10.38AntiarcWell, my concern is the priest proccing it on a rogue and getting threat attributed to them. I don't think they do, but I want to cover my bases.
00:10.44CIA-2203ckknight * r40288 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - add sort for memory since GC.
00:10.55PeoiiNah, prolly treated much like a full resist from a spell, or an overheal.  You get 0 threat from overheals now, so I'd assume the same thing.
00:11.06Funkeh`yeah i agree
00:11.13AntiarcWell, right, I just want to make sure Threat doesn't try to assign threat for it
00:11.31Funkeh`how would i test that
00:11.34AntiarcI'd be really shocked if proccing VT for a rogue caused threat for the priest
00:12.06AntiarcFollow this procedure: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/vtthreat.txt except use a non-mana-user for your melee class
00:12.10Peoiiand btw: OMG why couldn't you name the library something like Pancakes-1.0 or something... so we don'th ave discussions like "Yea, I'm curious how Threat handles threat."
00:12.11Gnarfozhrm
00:12.25GnarfozFinderReminder checks via IsInBG if I am inside a bg or arena
00:12.30KeiasPeoii, then people would ask how it tastes
00:12.31NightHawkTheSanemm. pancakes.
00:12.38Gnarfozbut still, everytime I join an arena, I get the damn popup
00:12.40NightHawkTheSaneI WOULD BE DELICIOUS!
00:12.45Gnarfozbecause arenas purge all buffs on entering
00:12.46Gnarfoz:\
00:12.50HjalteSomethings broken with the "make new text" feature in pitbull. I input the name of the new text, press enter and nothing happens.
00:12.52AntiarcCall it ThreatLib :P
00:12.56ckknightPancake-1.0 would be delicious, but only with RaspberrySyrup-1.1
00:13.05ckknightHjalte: what're you calling it?
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00:13.11NightHawkTheSaneckknight: what was wrong with RasberrySyrup-1.0?
00:13.27ckknightAPI change
00:13.30Hjalteckknight, umm, i have to call is something specific? I tried "Name" and "Name bar text"
00:13.33NightHawkTheSanebah.
00:13.34PeoiiNightHawkTheSane: To many hooks to Seed-1.0
00:13.35ckknightnot enough syrupy goodness in 1.0
00:13.43Funkeh`rofl
00:13.46NightHawkTheSanehaha
00:13.48ckknightHjalte: k, lemme test
00:14.20AntiarcWell, my big conclusions for today is that...I am back to square one for SP threat.
00:14.22Antiarc*sigh*
00:14.34ckknightlame
00:14.35AntiarcKalman|: You seem to think it's related to the shadowfiend, yes?
00:15.55Dottedi preffer IceCream-2.0, hate Pancake-1.0 :(
00:16.19Funkeh`Antiarc: i already knew that(your link)
00:16.45KriLL3IceCream2.0 is that soy stuff?
00:16.47Funkeh`Antiarc: im wondering how i go about testing what you asked, if Threat-1.0 is unecesarily adding threat when having melee classes
00:16.54Dottedsoy?
00:17.20KriLL3it's a bean, you make sauce of it
00:17.28AntiarcFunkeh`: I can test that - not a big deal :)
00:17.34AntiarcJust gonna throw in some debug messages
00:17.36Dottedah, no i dont think so
00:17.40Dottedi didnt ode it
00:17.44Dotted*code
00:17.52Funkeh`Antiarc: ok
00:17.57CIA-2203ckknight * r40289 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - commas are important, apparently
00:18.21Funkeh`Antiarc: but i can guarantee you thats not the main problem since im usually in caster only groups and creating abnormally large agro
00:18.32Funkeh`it might contribute though
00:18.33AntiarcFunkeh`: Yeah, I don't think that's it, TBH
00:18.43AntiarcFunkeh`: Does it happen if you don't use your shadowfiend?
00:18.58Funkeh`err
00:19.24CIA-2203adirelle * r40290 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua:
00:19.24CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
00:19.24CIA-22- applied the KISS principle.
00:19.28Funkeh`what kind of session time are we talking
00:19.33Funkeh`since login?
00:19.43AntiarcSince last threat clear
00:19.54Funkeh`thats a good question
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00:20.14Funkeh`lemme see if i can test
00:21.01hyperChipmunkGnarfoz: that's a good thing
00:21.06Gnarfozhuh?
00:21.13hyperChipmunkthe FinderReminder
00:21.17Gnarfozfor hunters?
00:21.23GnarfozI can imagine :D
00:21.24hyperChipmunki'd never remember to turn back on Track Humanoids
00:21.27hyperChipmunkwithout it
00:21.37Gnarfozbut still, it shouldn't act like that, from how the code looks
00:21.44Gnarfozeven if that's useful in a way :D
00:23.48CIA-2203ckknight * r40291 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - add translation
00:24.20ckknightHjalte: tested out the new text thing, works fine for me
00:24.35ckknightHjalte: calling yours "Name" won't work, since Name is a standard one anyway
00:24.41Gnarfozbut I can't figure out why it does it :\
00:24.42ArrowmasterGnarfoz: arenas arent considered bgs
00:24.47GnarfozArrowmaster: yes they are :\
00:25.01Arrowmasterwhats it use to detect bgs?
00:25.02GnarfozGetBattlefieldInfo(1) returns 'active' in arenas for me
00:25.03ckknightArrowmaster: IsInInstance() => 1, "pvp" in an arena
00:25.09Arrowmasterwrong
00:25.24ArrowmasterIsInInstance() => 1, "arena" is an arena
00:25.38Arrowmastertrust me i wrote the wowwiki page on IsInInstance()
00:25.41Funkeh`bg and arena return different
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00:27.27Dustwhisperafter 1 hour of this addonscripting i already decided i hate lua :P
00:27.39hyperChipmunkdude
00:27.41JoshBorkeDustwhisper: aw, but it's so nice
00:27.43hyperChipmunklua is /swoon
00:27.48JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: qft
00:27.59Dustwhisperthe syntax is *bleh*
00:28.11abugbleautiful
00:28.35JoshBorkei think i'd prefer to specify global vs local in the file scope (ie default to local file scope) but that's impractical
00:28.45Gnarfoz02:28:28|"active", "Nagrand Arena", 2, 70, 70, 2, 1
00:28.45Gnarfoz02:28:33|Lolah: echo GetBattlefieldStatus(1)
00:28.48abugpython does that, I hate it
00:28.50Gnarfozis what it returns for me
00:28.58Gnarfozand FinderReminder looks for that 'active'
00:29.13DustwhisperI couldnt even get my addon to do a simple /cmd Subcommand params
00:29.13Dustwhisperto work
00:29.17Dustwhisperwon't let me hit enter =D
00:29.19ArrowmasterGnarfoz: odd
00:29.32ArrowmasterGnarfoz: if i remember ill rewrite it to use IsInInstance()
00:29.42Arrowmastersince its *better*
00:29.46*** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com)
00:29.48JoshBorkeDustwhisper: that means that an error is occuring and being captured
00:29.57JoshBorkethe execution path is halted
00:30.24JoshBorkei believe is a semi-accurate way to describe the elicited behaviour
00:30.31JoshBorkesmarter minds are more than welcome to correct me
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00:31.00GnarfozArrowmaster: show me how that's done and I'll do it :)
00:31.18Gnarfozi.e. what to check for
00:31.23Dustwhisperyes JoshBorke makes sense I just dont know exactly where
00:31.35Dustwhisperguess it's my uber string concatenation code that borks it
00:31.46JoshBorkeDustwhisper: you should have another addon that is catching the error
00:31.54JoshBorkeDustwhisper: which should tell you excatly where it is
00:32.20Dustwhisperi have buggrabber ye
00:32.32JoshBorkethen it should tell you the line that the error occurs on
00:33.17Dustwhisperhow do you get buggrabber to actually show you the data without clearing it again? it disappears after like 3 seconds
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00:33.41JoshBorkeperhaps you need bugsack?
00:33.53JoshBorkei've also used Swatter with great success, but it conflicts with bug*
00:34.17Gnarfozah
00:34.22GnarfozIsInInstance() returns "arena"
00:35.15JoshBorkeDustwhisper: the version of BugGrabber/BugSack I use keeps all errors
00:36.36Dustwhisperbugsack wouldn't load due to errors with aceconsole >_<
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00:37.38JoshBorkehm, sounds like a borked version of bug*
00:37.47JoshBorkedid you try downloading them from wowi?
00:40.13CIA-2203ckknight * r40292 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix issue with allFrames not being able to pick up functions properly.
00:40.42hyperChipmunkAntiarc: Threat-1.0-40225 (Omen):889: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
00:40.57AntiarcAight
00:41.27hyperChipmunkquit your suck nub
00:42.41hyperChipmunkyou changed the color of the overtake bar; possible to make it smooth-shift from green to red based on the fraction of your threat to its?
00:42.55JoshBorke<PROTECTED>
00:43.01hyperChipmunkfine
00:43.03JoshBorkeYOU'LL TAKE WHAT YOU GET AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!
00:43.15AntiarchyperChipmunk: Eh, you could, but I don't think I will since it's configurable
00:43.27*** kick/#wowace [JoshBorke!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (you like this, punk?)
00:43.41hyperChipmunk/nod
00:43.45hyperChipmunkjust an idea
00:44.51*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Joshua@adsl-156-54-6.asm.bellsouth.net)
00:44.59JoshBorketook me forever to realize you had kicked me
00:45.09hyperChipmunkyea, you are pretty slow
00:45.11JoshBorkei only noticed because i was gonna ask how to exit lua's interpreter mode
00:45.21JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: understatement of the day
00:45.29hyperChipmunkctrl-d?
00:45.42JoshBorkejust ctrl-c?
00:45.47hyperChipmunkthat works too
00:45.48JoshBorkeseems so, well, abrupt
00:46.01hyperChipmunkctrl-D should be a normal exit
00:46.16JoshBorkeoh, you're right
00:46.27hyperChipmunknaturally
00:46.34JoshBorkei hate you
00:46.34JoshBorke:P
00:46.41hyperChipmunk<3
00:46.47NightHawkTheSanectrl-d is end-of-file, isnt it? it usually exits out of any stdin input
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00:47.27JoshBorkei hate you too NightHawkTheSane
00:47.41NightHawkTheSanethats okay, the feeling is mutual :D
00:48.25JoshBorkewhat have i ever done to you :(
00:48.27JoshBorke:'(
00:48.30JoshBorkepurl, comfort me
00:48.31purlThere, there, joshborke.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
00:48.36JoshBorkethanks purl
00:48.38JoshBorke~botsnack
00:48.38purlthanks, JoshBorke
00:48.40NightHawkTheSaneyou said you hated me, that's what.
00:48.42NightHawkTheSane~lart JoshBorke
00:48.42purlexecutes killall -KILL JoshBorke
00:48.56hyperChipmunkrather abrupt, purl
00:49.03hyperChipmunkyou could have just EOFed him
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00:49.11JoshBorke~lar hyperChipmunk
00:49.12NightHawkTheSanelol, burn.
00:49.16JoshBorkelol
00:49.27hyperChipmunk~comfort JoshBorke
00:49.28purlThere, there, JoshBorke.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
00:54.01trh_does arkinventory use the slash commands /ai?
00:54.43NightHawkTheSanehmm, i'd forgotten how much of a pussy garland was.
00:57.49cladhaireAnything special that needs to happen to make the cooldown spark work on Quartz?
00:58.12NightHawkTheSanecladhaire: the GCD thing you mean?
00:58.17liquiemwaaargh, antiarc, please make fd resists not wiping threat!
00:58.20JoshBorkecladhaire: user error imo
00:58.31cladhaireJoshBorke: i'm not the user, so thats possible
00:58.34Antiarcliquiem: I fixed that a couple days ago...you're up to date?
00:58.36JoshBorkeblast
00:58.54JoshBorkei thought i had you
00:58.59hyperChipmunkcladhaire: you need to set two spells for the GCD one
00:59.04NightHawkTheSanecladhaire: well, if you mean the Global Cooldown Spark thing, Make sure there's a spell set in the settings
00:59.07liquiemyep, 40253 omen, 40225 threatlib
00:59.18AntiarcHrm.
00:59.22AntiarcMulti-mob fight?
00:59.24cladhaireokay, thanks.
00:59.35liquiemnope, single servent in blasted lands
00:59.46AntiarcBleh! Wonder what's up with it.
00:59.47cladhairehrm..
00:59.49AntiarcI'll check into it.
00:59.50hyperChipmunkthose are the best mobs ever
00:59.59liquiempet tanks, i shoot until i get aggro and fd. fd resists, threat wipes but mobs stays on me.. ofc
01:00.30liquiemthats the only reason why i still use ktm :/
01:02.15CIA-2203antiarc * r40293 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (Pet.lua Priest.lua):
01:02.15CIA-22Threat-1.0:
01:02.15CIA-22- Pet despawn fix (shadowfiend, water elemental)
01:02.15CIA-22- Fixed Silent Resolve rank 3 to give the proper 25% reduction rather than 24%. Shadow priests with Silent Resolve were reporting all threat as being 1.42% higher than it actually was.
01:02.36Antiarcliquiem: I actually did a lot of work on that the other day. I'll see if I can figure out what's up. :/
01:04.26Hjalteckknight, i tested some more and i can do new texts on the abf(default) layout but not my buu frames
01:05.00ckknightyea, Buu is broken
01:05.10ckknighteverything but ABF is broken
01:05.17ckknightgranted, you can create Buu with ABF now
01:06.00CIA-2203trh * r40294 10AntiInvite/ (. AntiInvite.lua AntiInvite.toc):
01:06.00CIA-22AntiInvite: initial commit:
01:06.00CIA-22Auto-declines group invites if the inviter is not in guild, on friendslist or you didn't spoke with him. Other Invites aren't changed.
01:06.39hyperChipmunkBars->Blank Space [Change settings for the blank space]
01:06.47hyperChipmunknice tooltip
01:08.01NightHawkTheSanetrh_: "didn't spoke with him" wonderful grammar there. :p
01:08.05CIA-2203daviesh * r40295 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
01:08.05CIA-22AtlasLoot:
01:08.05CIA-22- French update from KKram
01:08.37trh_NightHawkTheSane: not a native speaker ;)
01:09.01NightHawkTheSanetrh_: excuses excuses. ;) It should probably "or you haven't spoken with him"
01:09.27NightHawkTheSanes/y/y be/
01:09.30liquiemAntiarc: ThreatLib:Debug("FD is primed!") .. how do i enable this messages for me, like printing in chatframe1?
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01:10.49sag_ich_nicht[03:08] <NightHawkTheSane> trh_: excuses excuses. ;) It should probably "or you haven't spoken with him"
01:10.49sag_ich_nicht[03:09] * Shirik|zZz is now known as Shirik
01:10.50sag_ich_nichterm
01:10.58sag_ich_nichtdamn you, MX518
01:11.00sag_ich_nichtno cookie
01:11.20NightHawkTheSanelol
01:11.24sag_ich_nicht[03:08] <NightHawkTheSane> trh_: excuses excuses. ;) It should probably "or you haven't spoken with him" <--or "or you didn't speak with him"
01:11.52NightHawkTheSaneeither would work
01:12.21CIA-2203trh * r40296 10AntiInvite/ (. AntiInvite.toc): AntiInvite: externals + .toc fixes
01:12.21CIA-2203gamefaq * r40297 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
01:12.21CIA-22Babble-2.2:
01:12.21CIA-22- BB: Old Serra'kis is in deDE "Old Serra'kis" too...
01:12.21trh_NightHawkTheSane proposal is included ;)
01:12.22sag_ich_nichtyeah but one requires restructuring the sentence, the other only using the proper time for the word :P
01:12.48Antiarcliquiem: /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true
01:12.51CIA-2203gnarfoz * r40298 10FinderReminder/FinderReminder.lua: FinderReminder - Use IsInInstance instead of GetBattlefieldStatus, detects both battlegrounds and arenas now. Still affected by the battleground toggle, for hunters and the like. /wave hyperChipmunk ;)
01:12.55NightHawkTheSanerestructuring? It changes one word, and adds a letter to a second. Hardly a restructure :p
01:13.20sag_ich_nichtmine is less work with same results thus my solution is more optimized
01:13.26trh_but the most important part is that i don't have to care about those gold-spammer invites anymore :)
01:13.26sag_ich_nichti DARE you claim otherwise.
01:13.39sag_ich_nicht+to
01:13.46hyperChipmunkGnarfoz: >8p
01:13.52Gnarfoz=D
01:14.09NightHawkTheSanei'm not, i'm just saying both are equally grammatically correct.
01:14.23sag_ich_nichtyeah well that's what i already said :P
01:15.28sLLiKAnyone know of an addon that simply removes the arrows from the chat boxes?  Maybe adds a little scrolling functionality but that's it?
01:15.34NightHawkTheSaneAlthough, if you really want to split hairs, I believe "haven't spoken with" is passive voice, and considered slightly poorer form in formal literature.
01:15.46NightHawkTheSanebut that's really picking nits.
01:15.52sag_ich_nicht<3
01:18.01CIA-2203daviesh * r40299 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua:
01:18.01CIA-22AtlasLoot:
01:18.01CIA-22- Fixed loot browser for lvl70 pvp sets
01:19.34Gnarfozhey, grammar flames are fun!
01:20.02Gnarfozcouldn't it also be "haven't spoken to"? :D
01:20.02Gnarfozor would that have to be "talked to"
01:20.09trh_i bet if NightHawkTheSane would write some german we could correct the hell out of him :P
01:20.28NightHawkTheSanetrh_: totally. :)
01:20.40sag_ich_nichtlol
01:20.51sLLiKI would swear I had a mod at one point that would do that for me in the past... can't seem to find it again, though.   Ah well.
01:20.52NightHawkTheSaneI haven't studied german in almost 10 years.
01:21.17sag_ich_nichttrh_: change the communication handling in VanasKoS or /I/ am going to flame you though ;P
01:21.39trh_sag_ich_nicht: na.. it's fine as it is.. =)
01:21.43sag_ich_nichtno it isn't
01:21.48sag_ich_nichtit's using one chat slot for nothing
01:21.51hyperChipmunkTain: /poke
01:21.52sag_ich_nichti could use that slot
01:21.52sag_ich_nicht>.>
01:22.24trh_sag_ich_nicht: set vanaskos to not join global then ;)
01:22.45sag_ich_nichttrh_: then my wanted tracking doesn't work :P
01:23.00trh_sag_ich_nicht: get more chat channels :P
01:23.12AntiarcWhoa, whoa, whoa
01:23.13sag_ich_nichttrh_: i can't, 10 and maxed out
01:23.17AntiarcI'm on a guildmate's spriest
01:23.21AntiarcAnd he's in 3/3 shadowweave
01:23.29AntiarcI cast SW:D and I got TWO heals for 29
01:23.30sag_ich_nichti want more, but you're stealing one for nothing :P
01:23.43AntiarcPresumably one for damage caused to me, one for my target?
01:23.59trh_sag_ich_nicht: but sending like 1200 list entries over a global channel every 10 minutes suck =)
01:24.03sag_ich_nichtjust from the cast or from the kill :P
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01:24.05NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: o_0 damage caused to you shouldn't cause VE healing, as -you- don't have the VE debuff, yeah?
01:24.13sag_ich_nichttrh_: the zonechannel is global as well :P
01:24.18sag_ich_nichtjust not that many people in it
01:24.25trh_sag_ich_nicht: ya.. that's what i meant :)
01:24.31AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: Not VE, 3-piece Frozen Shadowweave
01:24.43Antiarc2% of all shadow damage caused = healz for me
01:24.54NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: ahh, well, yeah, i guess that makes sense then
01:24.59NightHawkTheSaneyou cause the damage, even if it's to yourself.
01:25.33trh_funniest thing was this week in karazhan a priest complaining that his shadowfiend doesn't go to the mob...
01:25.35KarlThePaganI'm trying to get Assessment to show damage percents in the text - where is the tag control stuff in the lua?
01:25.37sag_ich_nichttrh_: doesn't matter though, incoming traffic doesn't disconnect you, only outgoing, iirc
01:25.45sag_ich_nichtso: you are wasting a chatchannel :P
01:26.03trh_sag_ich_nicht: not if you count interoperability between older versions =)
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01:26.11trh_sag_ich_nicht: they are on the zone channel but not on the global ^^
01:26.25sag_ich_nichttrh_: well that's their fault
01:27.08sag_ich_nichtshould be running the latest version or latest revision that works for them if the latest version is bugged for them. :P
01:27.52kenlyrictrh_: that's not funny. That's annoying.
01:28.12trh_kenlyric: what?
01:28.14sag_ich_nichtso: stop wasting my chatchannel :P
01:28.25kenlyricshadowfiend being broken
01:28.33trh_kenlyric: er... it's not broken
01:28.41trh_kenlyric: they were just too stupid to use the "new" petbar
01:28.56kenlyricsay what?
01:29.03sag_ich_nichtin b4 petbar bug
01:29.29trh_ya.. petbar bugging sucks
01:29.41kenlyricsince when do shadow fiends get pet bars?
01:29.53trh_kenlyric: heard they got it in 2.1 or sth
01:30.02sag_ich_nichtkenlyric i suggest you install this addon so YOU get the petbar as well: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6978-ReappearingUnitFrames.html
01:30.07kenlyricI think I would have noticed.
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01:30.17sag_ich_nichtkenlyric: no, you wouldn't, because petbars are broken atm
01:30.18sag_ich_nicht:P
01:30.24kenlyricfeh. addons for basic gameplay functionality?
01:30.40sag_ich_nichtkenlyric: yes. currently petbars are broken, sad as it is D:
01:30.52kenlyricmy hunter and warlock pets work fine.
01:30.58sag_ich_nichtannoyed the hell out of me when i did the gorefiend quests
01:31.10sag_ich_nichtbecause i wouldn't get a petbar no matter what
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01:31.27sag_ich_nichtkenlyric: just. try. it. out. :P
01:31.39sag_ich_nichtif it doesn't work you can still come back complaining ;P
01:31.50kenlyricI can complain anyway.
01:31.57kenlyricif shadowfiend doesn't work correctly.
01:32.35sag_ich_nichtyeah well see if you get a petbar with it installed for the fiend now :P
01:32.36kenlyricdamnation
01:32.41kenlyricthat really should have been in the patch notes.
01:32.56kenlyricI just called my shadowfiend out of combat to check :)
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01:33.28trh_kenlyric: say hi to him from me ;)
01:34.08kenlyricyeah, that's the kind of goddamn thing that needs to be in patch notes.
01:39.25CIA-2203ckknight * r40300 10Cartographer/Cartographer_ZoneInfo/ZoneInfo.lua: Cartographer_ZoneInfo - fix issue where zone text levels weren't showing.
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01:41.58CIA-22Babble-2.2:
01:41.58CIA-22- Translated 2 Missing Spells into deDE
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01:46.02CIA-22GemList:
01:46.02CIA-22- drycoded an option to restrict output to rare gems
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01:46.59sag_ich_nicht[03:32] <kenlyric> that really should have been in the patch notes. <--tell your friends, get RUF, stop QQing :P
01:47.55kenlyricI'm gonna flame blizzard on the forums!
01:48.22hyperChipmunkthat'll show 'em
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01:51.36kenlyricnice thing is that shadowfiend is on defensive, so when I'm solo (which I am all the time now) he always works.
01:51.36Dottedhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268199
01:51.38DottedOH
01:51.38DottedMY
01:51.40DottedGOD
01:51.42DottedWHAT
01:51.43DottedA
01:51.44DottedNUB
01:51.47DottedKENCO
01:51.48DottedIS
01:51.49Dotted!
01:51.50kenlyricwas that necessary?
01:51.53Dottedyes
01:52.00Funkeh`can you shut the fuck up?
01:52.08Dottedwhen you read it you will understand
01:52.10kebinusanckknight: is there an option in dogtag to say always show 3 significant digits? like 5.43M, 543K, 4.23K 423  or something similar
01:52.46NightHawkTheSanethere was really no excuse for that kind of spam, regardless of anything anyone said.
01:52.47NightHawkTheSaneyeesh
01:53.29kenlyricthis link is much better anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knzMFC6s4Bw
01:54.31ckknightkebinusan: :short
01:54.42ckknightkebinusan: I think.
01:54.58ckknightyep, it's :Short
01:56.26CIA-2203gagorian * r40306 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
01:56.26CIA-22DrDamage:
01:56.26CIA-22- Added nil check to see that class data actually has been loaded when requesting spell rank tables.
01:56.35kebinusanAh ok I guess I was using very short
01:56.38kebinusanthanks
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01:59.11trh_kenco answered to kaeltens posting btw
01:59.29StarinniaGod Kenco frustrates me sometimes
01:59.38kenlyriclol
01:59.57Starinniahttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_269476
02:00.04trh_Starinnia: i think it's pointless
02:01.12Starinniatrh_: yeah, my post was the last I'll say in public to Kenco, prolly in private too
02:01.30trh_Starinnia: ya.. me too in that comments.. he doesn't listen to reason
02:02.13Dottedtrh_ slow, i already said that :p
02:02.22Dottedand quite clealry i might add ^^
02:02.39trh_Dotted: i'm slow... i know ;)
02:03.01sag_ich_nichtso trh_
02:03.12sag_ich_nichtlisten to reason and stop using 2 channels for VanasKoS when it only needs one :P
02:03.19trh_sag_ich_nicht: fu :P
02:03.30sag_ich_nichttrh_: no, fix it :P
02:03.44trh_sag_ich_nicht: but that is a different case because there is actually a reason for both channels :)
02:03.59sag_ich_nichtno there isn't
02:04.07sag_ich_nichtit does not matter if you use one or two
02:04.08trh_sure.. less spamming the servers :)
02:04.11sag_ich_nichtuh
02:04.14sag_ich_nichtit's the same amount of spam
02:04.17trh_and elss traffic
02:04.39sag_ich_nichtthe difference is what, 1 mb for 24 hours?
02:05.07sag_ich_nichtthat's not a reason to eat one chatchannel that could be used perfectly well for personal communication
02:05.18trh_sag_ich_nicht: i might change to a global channel if i implement a nice incremental update algorithm and permanent storage of the lists
02:05.29sag_ich_nichttrh_: start working on that
02:05.30sag_ich_nichtnow.
02:05.34sag_ich_nicht:P
02:05.39trh_na.. i'm going to bed soon :)
02:06.00sag_ich_nichtstart when you wake up then :P
02:07.03Brunersdo warlocks gain spelldmg from stamina ?
02:07.54hyperChipmunklol
02:08.01trh_Bruners: nope..
02:08.26Brunersgot one here that says he gets it
02:08.29Gagorian...
02:08.39GagorianHe's a retard, end of story
02:08.57GagorianWell, it can have an effect through a few jumps though
02:09.11trh_Bruners: well.. his stamins is a bonus to his pets stamina
02:09.16GagorianYou increase stamina by n, pet gets x*n stamina
02:09.29CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r40307 10LittleWigs/ (CoT/BlackMorass.lua TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua): LittleWigs: Update some translation for zhTW (thanks huangtp)
02:09.30trh_Bruners: and the pets stamina increases the spelldamage
02:09.32GagorianThen through the talent you get y*x*n spelldamage
02:09.45trh_Bruners: but i'm not sure if the pet stamins bonus is taken into account on spelldamage
02:10.04GagorianIt is
02:10.51trh_but still.. the effect is so minor it shouldn't really show up
02:11.18sag_ich_nichttrh_: depends on how much stamina he stacks :P
02:11.29sag_ich_nichtif he's pvping it might be quite a lot :P
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02:11.42sag_ich_nichtwait
02:11.46sag_ich_nichtsince when is littlewigs out?
02:11.52Gagorianwell, 100 stamina is 4.5 spelldamage
02:11.56trh_sag_ich_nicht: few months
02:12.02sag_ich_nichtgod damn it
02:12.03trh_Gagorian: "woot"
02:12.16Gagorian:D
02:12.31sag_ich_nichtnow i actually have a reason to install bigwigs >.>
02:12.44trh_sag_ich_nicht: uh? why?
02:12.59trh_sag_ich_nicht: littlewigs is independent from bigwigs afaik
02:12.59sag_ich_nichttrh_: because littlewigs are just modules for bigwigs? :P
02:13.30trh_oh ok
02:13.33trh_they are modules
02:13.37trh_thought it was standalone
02:13.56sag_ich_nichtnope
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02:14.44joshborkEnn
02:15.00ckknightbrb
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02:16.54sag_ich_nichtwow
02:17.07sag_ich_nichtClosetGnome_OhNoes is close to cheatin :O
02:17.28hyperChipmunkno, because sometimes it unequips your weapons and you don't die
02:17.33hyperChipmunkand you don't notice
02:17.38sag_ich_nichtthat's why i said close :P
02:17.47hyperChipmunki don't use it
02:17.55hyperChipmunkbut it happens to my g/f sometimes
02:17.58trh_hyperChipmunk: hunters unequip everything before dieing ;)
02:18.02sag_ich_nicht+sometimes you die and it doesn't unequip them(lol crushing blows :O)
02:18.06hyperChipmunkhunters don't die
02:18.18trh_hyperChipmunk: sometimes it's unavoidable
02:18.20sag_ich_nichti don't use it either, i just saw it in the aceupdater
02:18.26sag_ich_nichtand was like "lol cheatin"
02:18.35hyperChipmunks/hunters/survival hunters/
02:18.42trh_hyperChipmunk: go to netherspite :P
02:18.56trh_hyperChipmunk: and let your group wipe
02:18.58hyperChipmunki dunno where that is
02:19.07trh_hyperChipmunk: karazhan
02:19.23hyperChipmunknobody takes survival hunters to kharazan
02:19.38sag_ich_nichthyperChipmunk: i am a retribution paladin and raidleader of a karazhan raid
02:19.39trh_depends on your guild
02:19.42trh_usually yes
02:19.49sag_ich_nichtso, people take survival hunters to kara.
02:19.56hyperChipmunkthat was a joke =p
02:19.58NightHawkTheSane"Blimey, the end of the universe is a bit humbling."
02:20.05CIA-2203funkydude * r40308 10Violation/ (Violation.toc embeds.xml): Violation: use an embeds.xml file
02:20.39hyperChipmunkwtf is up with FD resists btw
02:20.53hyperChipmunkI haven't had one in months
02:20.58hyperChipmunkand today I've had 7 or 8
02:20.59trh_not?
02:21.07trh_i get permanently some
02:21.11Dottednew kenco repsonse :o
02:21.16trh_feels like the changed the rate from 5% to 10% with 2.0
02:21.31hyperChipmunkhave improved FD?
02:23.20CIA-2203cryect * r40309 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Tracker.lua):
02:23.20CIA-22Recount - Fixes a potential bug with graph window where layers are potentially the same not drawing in the correct order
02:23.20CIA-22-Fixes a bug with real time healing windows not working
02:23.33durcynit's in the patch notes, right?  "Hunters:  Improved the Improved Feign Death Talent by making unimproved suck."
02:23.45CIA-2203cryect * r40310 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Slight modification to filled line graphs
02:23.59NightHawkTheSane"How did you do that?" "While we were chatting away, I forgot to tell you. I'm brilliant!"
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02:24.29hyperChipmunkwell, I was wondering if he had imp fd to ensure we were working off the same %ages
02:24.37GagorianKenco is like a brick wall, wasted effort to try to help him improve KTM..
02:24.45GagorianI'm so happy an alternative exists
02:26.36cladhairenymbia: ping
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02:27.55SnagoAnyone with wowace forum moderation privelages here that can do something about roIFba?
02:28.23trh_ok.. tried to explain it to him.. i dont think he'll understand
02:28.41CIA-2203funkydude * r40311 10Violation/embeds.xml: Violation: embeds bugfix
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02:30.55sag_ich_nichtmhm
02:31.00sag_ich_nichtnow i have to look up my worms install
02:31.06sag_ich_nichtand find the FF victory fanfar
02:31.09sag_ich_nichte
02:31.12hyperChipmunkFatality!
02:31.15sag_ich_nichtand replace the one in bigswig with that one
02:31.20sag_ich_nicht*bigwigs
02:31.22hyperChipmunkFF?
02:31.34sag_ich_nichtfinal fantasy D:
02:31.48sag_ich_nichtmhm
02:31.53sag_ich_nichtdamn, i only have it installed on my laptop
02:31.56hyperChipmunkthe worms final fantasy fanfare?
02:32.09sag_ich_nichthyperChipmunk: i have a sound addon pack for worms
02:32.20sag_ich_nichtand it comes with the victory fanfare from FF in it
02:32.28hyperChipmunkbut that's already in bigwigs
02:32.28sag_ich_nichtonly it's a bit longer than the version used in bigwigs
02:32.37hyperChipmunkah, it has the whole thing?
02:32.43hyperChipmunksec, i have that track i think
02:33.11sag_ich_nichtheh :D
02:35.22hyperChipmunkcan't find it =P
02:36.21Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: ping
02:36.41sag_ich_nichthyperChipmunk: damn
02:36.59sag_ich_nichti cba to boot my laptop now
02:37.00sag_ich_nicht>.>
02:37.09Snagosag_ich_nicht: I have the track from the OST
02:37.19Snagowant it?
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02:37.52NightHawkTheSanewhich ost? hell, which FF fanfare? they were slightly different in different games
02:37.56Funkeh`cladhaire: ping
02:38.04cladhairehi
02:38.08SnagoFF VI
02:38.13Funkeh`you still ahve wowace admin right?
02:38.17Funkeh`or mod
02:38.23cladhaireis no one else taking care of it?
02:38.40cladhairei'll take care of the post
02:38.45Funkeh`ok
02:38.48cladhairebut someone needs to talk to kaelten to figure out what he wants to do
02:38.52cladhairejust link them here
02:38.55cladhairei only got two reported.
02:39.27VordaRight, weird question..
02:39.41VordaIs it possible that the latest Aceevent 2.0 is causing error 132 crashes?
02:39.43NightHawkTheSanedon't worry, we have weird answers.
02:40.00VordaI've had them ever since I did an update and the memory crashlogs all have 1 line in common:
02:40.01Vorda0012F580: 44 42 47 3A  41 63 65 45  76 65 6E 74  32 30 46 72  DBG:AceEvent20Fr
02:40.01Vorda0012F590: 61 6D 65 00  D0 F5 12 00  B4 13 28 16  B6 3A 69 00  ame.......(..:i.
02:40.38Funkeh`Vorda its a wow error
02:40.42Funkeh`it will be fixed in 2.1.2
02:41.24CIA-2203ckknight * r40313 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
02:41.24CIA-22Cartographer - change the guildSpammer from a push situation to a pull, e.g.
02:41.24CIA-22when someone opens their map, they request position for that zone/continent.
02:41.24CIA-22They also request again every 5 seconds (or more depending on guild members) or
02:41.24CIA-22whenever they change zones/continents. On the other end, when a request is
02:41.27CIA-22received, a whisper is sent to the other person detailing the position.
02:41.27CIA-22Note: This will receive old guild spams from previous versions, but previous versions will not be able to see the new positions.
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02:41.49VordaI know the 'error 132' phenomenom in general, and obviously ran memtest. Just abit weird how it always crashes with aceevent 2.0 in my memory
02:42.08ckknightVorda: it's supposedly fixed in WoW 2.1.2
02:42.18hyperChipmunksag_ich_nicht: http://69.14.77.214/ff7victory.mp3
02:42.20VordaOh, its a new error they added?
02:42.23hyperChipmunknot the one I was thinking of though
02:42.26Vordayay
02:42.55ckknightdid CIA catch my Cartographer guild spammer commit?
02:43.00Vordayeah
02:43.07ckknightokay
02:43.07cladhairebanned.
02:43.11sag_ich_nichthyperChipmunk: 403
02:43.12ckknightbanned?
02:43.16hyperChipmunksec
02:43.18ckknightwell, please test it out
02:43.22cladhaireyes, the keylogger spammer
02:43.23cladhairehe's banned
02:43.26cladhairesince no one else wants to do it.
02:43.31Gagorianckknight: Some spammer who posted keyloggers in form of Nihilum videos
02:43.32hyperChipmunktry now
02:43.37ckknightGagorian: ah
02:44.12sag_ich_nichthyperChipmunk: not the one i was thinking of either
02:44.15sag_ich_nichti wouldn't want that one D:
02:44.24sag_ich_nichtbut thanks for the effort
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02:45.02VordaNothing I can do about it till 2.1.2 though? (1 raid night till the patch, doubt they will like a dropping raid leader ;) )
02:45.18hypetechAnybody know a video editing channel here on freenode?
02:45.39Funkeh`cladhaire: <3 thanks
02:45.46cladhaireno problem
02:46.23ckknightVorda: what UF you using?
02:46.35GagorianIf this becomes an increasing problem perhaps the forums could use a few more general moderators?
02:46.58ckknightVorda: if you're using PitBull or agUF, I can guess you'll have issues. I suggest switching to something along the lines of PerfectRaid or sRF temporarily
02:47.00VordaPitbuul
02:47.02GagorianCause those bastards seem to infest every wow related forum :(
02:47.07Vorda*ll
02:47.20abyssichateBy the way, has Blizzard said anything else about the upcoming changes over warlocks?
02:47.24ckknightVorda: or actually, there's a specific revision of PitBull that works
02:47.31VordaOh, that would be great!
02:47.47ckknightVorda: r39408
02:47.49VordaI was wondering something like that, since I havent had the problem till I updated today
02:48.14Vordagreat, I'll give it a shot :) much appreciated! (now I wont have to run prime95 the entire night aswell)
02:48.45ckknightwhy would you run prime95?
02:49.08VordaBecause the blizzard forum sticky mentions it might be related to system instability
02:49.25Vordaand that was the only thing I had left, before I noticed how AceEvent 2.0 appeared in all my memory log files
02:50.29VordaWeird how I didnt manage to find anything about it on the common WoW forums though, is the error that rare? (the addon related crash)
02:50.30NightHawkTheSanewow, this weeks who is great, and a little bit "what the crap?"
02:50.48wobin_NightHawkTheSane: huh?
02:51.07Vorda(or does my searching ability just plain suck)
02:51.19NightHawkTheSanewobin_: there's a bunch of things that just come almost out of nowhere in the episode.
02:51.28NightHawkTheSanenot that it's bad, its just weird.
02:51.30wobin_oh Who? =P
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02:51.37NightHawkTheSaneyes, Who.
02:51.40NightHawkTheSanethat's what i said.
02:51.41GagorianIt's nice that Antiarc posted that testing script for FPS.. more and more pople are testing KTM and writing posts about it :P
02:51.55wobin_no you said "Wow, this weeks who is great..."
02:51.59GagorianKenco still manages to shrug them off though
02:52.05wobin_and I thought so, who is this weeks who is great?
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02:52.31NightHawkTheSanewobin_: yeah, uh, lets just stop before this turns into a who's on first. :)
02:52.41wobin_what's on second
02:52.58wobin_Gagorian: But it doesn't count
02:53.15wobin_cause as Kenco says, you can never have a valid benchmark testing environment
02:53.24wobin_It's ALL WRONG
02:53.36GagorianBut of course..
02:54.23GagorianHe wants to test it in such conditions, that it is actually impossible to benchmark it in repeatably.. Thus making it impossible to get any reliable results. And thus he can say KTM is fine.
02:54.33NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: you know what the absolute worst part of that whole thing is? It's the absolute -idiots- who spout pointless gibberish like "time to upgrade your computer" or "stop playing on a 386"
02:55.11GagorianNightHawkTheSane: Indeed. They're completely missing the point.
02:55.29NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: not just missing the point, they're not even in the same universe of discourse.
02:55.37XuerianSurpriseBUTTYIFF!
02:57.04GagorianWell, lets say 50 addons used OnUpdate and other heavy polling based design, even these guys running other computers than 386 (that their daddy bought, btw) would notice something.
02:57.04wobin_It took me a couple of reads to get that =P
02:57.11wobin_Obviously I don't read enough furryporn =P
02:57.35Xuerianwobin_: I thought this conversation could use a dose of [Serious]
02:57.38Xuerian:)
02:57.41wobin_srly
02:57.52wobin_s/srly/srsly/
02:58.13CIA-2203shamino * r40314 10EnchantingSell/ (3 files):
02:58.13CIA-22EnchantingSell:
02:58.13CIA-22- remember armor filter when closing/opening ES within the same game session
02:58.13CIA-22- fixed bug that prevented storing newly learned enchants.
02:59.15CIA-2203shamino * r40315 10Auction-1.0/:
02:59.15CIA-22Auction-1.0:
02:59.15CIA-22- added tsvn:logtemplate
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03:00.33CIA-2203ckknight * r40316 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
03:00.33CIA-22DogTag-1.0 - remove OfflineTime and AFKTime tags, instead merge with Offline and AFK tags.
03:00.33CIA-22- Offline now returns blank or "Offline (1:23)"
03:00.33CIA-22- AFK now returns blank or "AFK (1:23)"
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03:02.23Funkeh`is that a real time timer?
03:02.59ckknightif by that you mean it updates every second
03:03.01ckknightthen yes
03:03.09Funkeh`nice
03:03.24Funkeh`something i missed when i dumped ctraid over a year ago
03:03.35ckknightnow you can be like "wtf, this rogue has spent 8 minutes on the can. it only takes me 4. /kick"
03:03.44ckknightwell, now I stole it!
03:03.45Funkeh`yeah
03:03.46ckknightmine now
03:03.50Funkeh`:p
03:06.11hypetechanybody here do any video editing from fraps captures?
03:07.06CIA-2203ckknight * r40317 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - update AFK and Offline timers twice as fast now, to not be so choppy.
03:07.17sag_ich_nicht[04:55] <NightHawkTheSane> Gagorian: not just missing the point, they're not even in the same universe of discourse. <--or, to say it differently, they are not even wrong. :O
03:07.27sag_ich_nichthyperChipmunk: well, no. but maybe i can help you anyway
03:07.42hyperChipmunkckknight: .blizzardTooltip is not anywhere in FuBarPlugin's wiki doc
03:07.48NightHawkTheSanesag_ich_nicht: yeah, but I like the term universe of discourse :)
03:07.54hyperChipmunksag_ich_nicht: hypetech is the one you're looking for
03:08.10hyperChipmunkckknight: also, I'm not sure i understand independentProfile
03:08.41ckknighthyperChipmunk: without it, profiles are synced with FuBar
03:08.44sag_ich_nichterm
03:08.45sag_ich_nichtlol
03:08.48ckknightwith it, the profile isn't synced
03:08.50sag_ich_nichtsorry, yeah, bad tab key D:
03:08.55hyperChipmunkgotcha
03:08.59sag_ich_nichthypetech: well, no. but maybe i can help you anyway
03:09.00hyperChipmunkthat makes sense
03:09.03Gagorianuh, is UnitCreatureFamily( "unit" ) localized?
03:09.06ckknighthyperChipmunk: lemme document .blizzardTooltip...
03:09.13ckknightGagorian: I think so
03:09.45GagorianWell, that sucks then.. Strange I haven't had any complaints from other locales
03:09.50hyperChipmunkyea, because setting .blizzardTooltip to true gives BulkMail2\BulkMailFu.lua:41: Tablet-2.0: You must set hint within a registration.
03:09.56hyperChipmunkand there's no documentation on why
03:10.20ckknightoh, basically, cause Tablet no longer handles it, use GameTooltip:AddLine instead
03:10.30hyperChipmunk/nod
03:10.39hyperChipmunkthat's the type of thing you'd expect to be in the doc though =)
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03:11.36ckknightwell, it's doc'd now
03:11.48hyperChipmunk/nod
03:12.39GagorianHumm. No tablet dependancy if that is set?
03:13.47hyperChipmunkwell it obviously depends on what else you do with it
03:14.00hyperChipmunkbut yea
03:14.47hyperChipmunkI like the way skinner skins GameTooltip =P
03:15.06hyperChipmunkso i'm changing BulkMail to that (even though it uses tablet for other things)
03:15.28hyperChipmunksince all it really is is a hint
03:17.16hyperChipmunkalso, AceLocale not throwing errors on nonpresent translations makes me all kinds of happy
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03:18.07wobin_hurrah
03:18.11wobin_finally =P
03:18.20hyperChipmunkdude kenco is really a jerk
03:19.10Peoii*sniff* he drove me to actually register for a curse account.
03:19.17Peoiigranted, I'll never, ever, post there again... but good god.
03:19.24hyperChipmunkwobin_: paypal?
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03:19.36wobin_hyperChipmunk: Sure!
03:20.23hyperChipmunksounds like a worthy fund
03:20.27hyperChipmunkbut i don't see a link
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03:20.58wobin_meh
03:21.07wobin_I thought I had one up on my user site =P
03:21.18wobin_I should edit that post and put a link =)
03:21.20hyperChipmunkah
03:23.21wobin_hm
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03:23.27wobin_didn't curse used to have a paypal link?
03:23.38wobin_on the addons page, or was that ui.worldofwar?
03:23.47CIA-2203ckknight * r40318 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - optimize the guild spammer slightly
03:24.23CIA-2203ckknight * r40319 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix a bug with multiple copies of the same unit checking the AFK status.
03:27.05CIA-2203gamefaq * r40320 10BunchOfBars/BunchOfBars.toc:
03:27.05CIA-22BunchOfBars:
03:27.05CIA-22- Added missing Path to AceComm to Toc
03:27.48CIA-2203ckknight * r40321 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix a typo before the syntax aficionados find me.
03:30.48nymbiacladhaire: pong
03:31.59kebinusanhttp://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/WizzleMcSwizzle/mooninites.jpg heh
03:33.11ckknighthehe
03:35.34wobin_ckknight: whisper? using the whisper addon channel, no?
03:37.07ckknightyes.
03:37.14GagorianHurmm, can GameTooltip justify lines to center?
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03:37.25ckknightnope
03:37.27ckknightI've tried
03:37.58ThraeGagorian: GameTooltip is made up of Left and Right fontstrings -- it could get messy, but you could try
03:38.24QQngskhow do I switch the default totem for an element using yata?
03:38.34GagorianYeah I guess it's doable, just not worth the trouble
03:38.40GagorianI'll just add some blank space to my string :p
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03:44.30CIA-2203gagorian * r40322 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc libs/):
03:44.30CIA-22DrDamage:
03:44.30CIA-22- Removed Tablet from externals.
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03:51.01CIA-2203ckknight * r40323 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - allow sorting without scriptProfile
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03:56.31sag_ich_nichti go to bed now, good night.
03:57.08GagorianKaelten: Kenco has done it again.
04:00.13KaeltenI'll take that challenge and render results
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04:01.39trh_the funny thing is that his tests are probably hundredthousands of calls of his onframeevent function
04:01.51trh_which are more pointless than fps comparisments
04:02.03trh_because his routines get into the l1 cache and will be executed in no time
04:02.16KaeltenI've found in the past that fps comparisons are fairly informative
04:02.22Kaeltenmaybe not the best in the world but informative
04:02.36trh_ya.. more informative then calling frameonevent millions of times
04:02.49PeoiiThey're a valid benchmark that's applicable to all forms without intervention of someone elses code.  Very valid.
04:02.57hyperChipmunkwell, informative or not, they reflect what really matters to the gamer
04:03.08trh_hyperChipmunk: true.. but they aren't very accurate
04:03.13PeoiiWe use them at work all the time as a measure of consumer feel.
04:03.21trh_hyperChipmunk: but if dozens of users tell they gain 10% fps it should say something
04:03.40Kaeltenyep
04:03.47KaeltenI'm updating my laptop to run said tests
04:03.58kebinusanWhen I set NPC Color By Hostility on and Class Color for my target frame in pitbull, the bar is still hostility colored for players battlegrounds
04:04.29GagorianBesides, in fact there is no need for any onupdate methods or hardly any polling based calculation. It's all a waste of CPU, he can't argue against that.
04:04.38hyperChipmunkckknight: how do you avoid the duplicated menu items when independentProfile = true
04:05.29PeoiiGagorian: Ahhh, but in his own little deluded mind, he can, and has already won that battle.  See, we're not speaking against logic here, we're speaking against one persons perception on reality.  That's a very tuff thing to convince someone is wrong.
04:06.24Xuerian-NaN post rating ftw
04:06.45PeoiiHell, I've been guilty of it in the past myself.  "My code isn't the problem", and sure enough, later on, we'd find out it was.  Took a couple tries, but now? I listen a little more carefully when people approach me... and I look things over twice more just incase.
04:07.09KaeltenPeoii: one of the rules of the pragmattic programmer.
04:07.52PeoiiKaelten: All to true.
04:10.22ckknighthyperChipmunk: duplicated menu items?
04:11.00Kaeltensigning back in to that same wall
04:11.01Kaelten:s
04:11.33hyperChipmunkckknight: give me a moment; making a visual aid =)
04:11.51ckknightk
04:11.59XuerianIs wowbench operational?
04:12.33kebinusanckknight, If I uncheck Hostility Coloring on the target frame, and select only hostility coloring for NPCs I still get a hostility colored health bar for player characters
04:13.32ckknighthrm, odd
04:13.45Borked|RaiderIn 2.1 they added or changed some API for checking timeleft on buffs/debufss ect. cant remember, but if a priest cast pwf on a player can the priest the nget the timeleft on that buff or?
04:14.02NightHawkTheSanehmm...
04:14.09kebinusanhmm lemme reload I just got a dogtag error may have updated in game
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04:15.39NightHawkTheSaneSo, if anyone's curious, I did the same test as Antiarc just now..
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04:16.03AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: If it doesn't agree with Kenco, it's worthless
04:16.04AntiarcFYI
04:16.44NightHawkTheSaneStanding in Shattrath (Aldor Rise, few people wandering around), with my normal addon set.. KTM would degrade my FPS by 6-18% And this is on a machine that only really pulls 30 fps staring at a blank wall. 10 fps in raids, if i'm lucky.
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04:16.57NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: oh, obviously. :)
04:17.15LywellynI keep getting an error from the AceAddon-2.0 lib of Ace2 itself whenever the UI is loaded, can anyone help me debug?
04:17.30XuerianPeoii: Pwn.
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04:17.51kebinusanckknight: never mind Im dumb theres a seperate option for color by class for pvp targets
04:17.55PeoiiXuerian: ?
04:18.18Xuerian[English] Peoii: Nice comment.
04:18.21kebinusanI assumed just color npcs by hostility and color by class would accomplish the same thing
04:18.43PeoiiXuerian: Ahhh, gotcha ;)  Thanks, I just thought it was well... honest.
04:18.53hyperChipmunkckknight: n/m, not related to independent profile
04:18.54NightHawkTheSaneAnd now that I wasted an hour of my life proving something we all already knew, I'm going to make dinner and watch Empire Records.
04:18.55ckknightkebinusan: *thumbs up*
04:19.04ckknightLywellyn: sure.
04:19.25KemayoI just saw a level 59 warrior ask in chat "How do I use talent points if I am an enchanter?".  The mind, it boggles.
04:19.37LywellynThe actual error is:  Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:729:attempt to index local 'current' (a nil value)
04:19.45LywellynAnd....I looked at it, and I have no idea what to do. XD
04:19.50PeoiiKemayo: Real warriors spec 0/0/0
04:20.11NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: That question defies so many laws of logic, that I think I can see rifts in time and space start forming.
04:20.45wobin_Kemayo: I've seen similar, one of the rogues in my guild was 54 before he asked about what talent points were
04:21.31ckknightLywellyn: mind providing a full debugstack?
04:21.41Lywellyn'kay, one sec.
04:22.46KemayoIt's just hard to fathom.
04:23.01CIA-2203ckknight * r40324 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: .DogTag-1.0 - add a timer to the Dead tag
04:23.12ckknightBankZ: ^---
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04:23.54Lywellynokay...my swatter isn't working atm....have to restart the client.
04:24.12CIA-2203ckknight * r40325 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove debug line.
04:24.13ckknightBugSack?
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04:25.52Lywellynkay, bugsack installed.  Never really used it because Swatter worked just fine.  I wonder if it was just because my swatter log filled up too much? lol
04:27.51ckknight*shrug*
04:28.42Lywellynyeah, that must've been it.  I got the conflict error between swatter and bugsack.
04:28.49Lywellyndo I just post the debug stack in here?
04:28.57ckknightno, ace.pastey.net
04:29.13Lywellynit's Fubar causing it.
04:30.05kebinusanAntiarc, just got this error with the most recent threatlib: [2007/06/17 00:29:33-1713-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:712: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
04:30.24kebinusanWhen summoning my pet or zoning in to an arena Im not sure which exactly
04:30.26Antiarckebinusan: I saw that pop up once when I used a shadowfiend - did you summon a pet or something?
04:30.27AntiarcYup.
04:30.28Lywellynhttp://ace.pastey.net/57005
04:30.41AntiarcIt's harmless, but annoying. Race condition thing. I'll get it fixed.
04:31.18trhXuerian: omg ;)
04:31.19KhaKiirofl
04:31.24NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: what the crap?
04:31.33trhXuerian: but kenco is > 50, so the guy on the picture is a bit too young
04:31.55wobin_Kenco is greater than NINE THOUSAND
04:32.20XuerianNightHawkTheSane: I've /b/een corrupted >.o
04:33.03Lywellynthat's /b/ad!
04:33.05ThraeMy addon takes up over NINE-THOUSAND bytes!!!!11one
04:33.47NightHawkTheSaneThrae: your mom takes over nine thousand bytes
04:34.09wobin_Kemayo: the script running thing for wowace.py doesn't seem to work =(
04:35.33wobin_Kemayo: oh arguments in the wrong order
04:37.30trhi'm going to bed.. already 6:30 am... good nite guys
04:37.59KhaKiinight :p
04:38.15wobin_actually..
04:38.27NightHawkTheSanetrh_: morning
04:38.28wobin_in python does the argument order matter if you name the arguments in the call?
04:38.55chuckgIs there a language where the argument order doesn't matter?
04:40.04ckknightyes, python
04:40.07ckknightwobin_: it doesn't matter
04:40.21wobin_kk
04:40.27ckknightchuckg: named arguments, not listed arguments
04:40.30hyperChipmunkchuckg: one would presume that's the point of naming them
04:40.31wobin_why isn't it running the script though =(
04:40.45Antiarcchuckg: Ruby, kinda
04:40.57chuckg...aren't all arguments named?
04:41.04chuckgfunction( arg1 )
04:41.06chuckgIs named arg1.
04:41.08AntiarcNo, it's like
04:41.36AntiarcIn ruby, you can call foo(:bar => "123", :baz => "321") or foo(:baz => "321", :bar => "123") and have the same values for baz and bar in foo
04:41.45chuckgRight.
04:41.55chuckgI understand the concept, just haven't really seen it.
04:42.08Antiarc(the actual implementation is basically just passing a hash to a method that takes a single parameter)
04:43.24Funkeh`zz bored
04:43.46Funkeh`nymbia you suck
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04:44.57hyperChipmunkAntiarc: fixed-width IRC ftw
04:44.59hyperChipmunkmis
04:45.22Kemayowobin_: Which addon were you trying it on?
04:45.29wobin_Pitbull
04:46.02Kemayowobin_: Give me the command-line you were trying?
04:46.15wobin_python wowace.py -s PitBull
04:46.20NightHawkTheSane"She hates me." "Yeah, she hates me too, but I have enough sense to hate her back."
04:46.58Funkeh`i hate you
04:47.03Funkeh`feel better?
04:47.34NightHawkTheSaneyes. yes i do.
04:47.55Funkeh`cool
04:47.56KemayoOh.
04:49.24wobin_yay!
04:49.26wobin_Oh is good =)
04:50.30wobin_hm, it won't run if it's not updated, will it?
04:50.39KemayoNope
04:50.47wobin_but if I update with default arguments, it won't run the script either
04:51.05wobin_or will it?
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04:51.39LywellynCool.  Join on connect is fun.
04:51.54Lywellynckknight:  Any progress?  Just curious, I'mma have to be going to bed soon :3
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04:52.31ckknightLywellyn: I'm a bit busy, I'll check into it when I can
04:52.39Kemayowobin_: Okay, just committed a change.  I now os.chdir to the addon directory before running the script. :D
04:52.50wobin_hehe =)
04:52.52wobin_kk
04:54.12CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40326 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua BulkMailFu.lua):
04:54.12CIA-22BulkMail2:
04:54.12CIA-22- .blizzardTooltip for FuBar plugin
04:54.24CIA-2203antiarc * r40327 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua): Omen: Fixes to the test bars, made addBar a local function (oops!)
04:54.36CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40328 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMailFu.lua BulkMailInbox-enUS.lua):
04:54.36CIA-22BulkMail2Inbox:
04:54.36CIA-22- .blizzardTooltip for FuBar plugin
04:58.51Lywellynckknight:  Okay, that's fine, I thought I'd just ask
04:59.11XuerianOk, fair warning, this is nsfw, but I have to link before going afk XD http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182055581102.jpg
04:59.26wobin_Kemayo: It's returning file not found
04:59.37wobin_sh: pitbulllod.sh: not found
04:59.40LywellynOkay, when I changed my name back to Lywellyn, it re-told me it's registered.  >< How do I prevent that, or set up an auto-identify in mIRC?
04:59.55KemayoHmmmm.
05:00.03LywellynXuerian:  Damnit! XD
05:00.54AntiarcIs Vampiric Touch affected by Shadow Affinity or Silent Resolve?
05:00.58AntiarcI'd think SA
05:01.14kenlyricshould be shadow affinity.
05:01.17CIA-2203next96 * r40329 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua:
05:01.17CIA-22Bartender3:
05:01.17CIA-22- Update locale koKR
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05:02.15kenlyriceven the healing from VE is considered a shadow effect, I believe.
05:02.30AntiarcI'd think so, yeah
05:02.36AntiarcI'm getting some slightly odd numbers
05:02.39AntiarcJust trying to nail down the reason
05:04.40KillmoreAntiarc
05:04.41Killmore[2007/06/17 01:04:44-69-x2]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Priest.lua:52: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'shadowAffinityMod' (a nil value)  ---
05:04.51Killmoregot 0pts in shadow affinity
05:05.02Killmoreevery time my Sw:p thick, got this error
05:05.02AntiarcHeh, I wasn't modding it with SA, that's why
05:05.07AntiarcHrm, ok
05:05.24AntiarcThanks :)
05:05.27AntiarcFixing it
05:05.55wobin_off to get some food
05:06.38Thorgard^2Man, Kenco's KTM threat meter mod page comments are a great bedtime read.
05:06.57GnarfozI concur
05:07.08AntiarcThorgard^2: FPS is an unimportant performance measurement metric
05:07.09binderdoes heroism have the same buff icon as bloodlust?
05:07.10Gnarfozoff to bed for some few hours :>
05:07.26Gnarfozbinder: don't think so
05:07.35binderThorgard^2 what's his ktm threat meter page?
05:07.50Gnarfozbinder: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2825 http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32182
05:07.51Thorgard^2Antiarc, damn straight. ;P Alls I care about is the polling speed on my mouse.. that's where the magic happens. Screw FPS.
05:08.01Gnarfozbinder: also: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comments
05:08.02Gnarfoz;-)
05:08.14Thorgard^2binder, http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/
05:08.15kenlyricyour mouse needs "lazers"
05:08.37Thorgard^2Lazer beams, for sure.
05:09.42Lywellynpewpewpewpew
05:10.08Kemayowobin_: Okay, should have fixed that.  I was testing on windows -- forgot that on *nix I'd need to be executing ./script.sh.
05:10.42wobin_^^
05:10.59CIA-2203funkydude * r40330 10Omen/ (Omen.toc embeds.xml): Omen: use embeds.xml
05:11.34AntiarcOk, KTM modifies VE with Silent Resolve, not Shadow Affinity
05:11.58AntiarcNo idea if that's actually right or not.
05:12.00Funkeh`i reckon thats wrong
05:12.08wobin_Kemayo: hehe I'll have to sudo the run now =)
05:12.14AntiarcI'm gonna go test it right now :)
05:12.20Funkeh`i have less threat on ktm that i do on Threat-1.0 so explain that :p
05:12.24NightHawkTheSanewobin_: o_0 why?
05:12.29wobin_or not
05:12.30AntiarcFunkeh`: Your version doesn't mod VE at all
05:12.38Antiarc(I just discovered that bug as well :P)
05:12.41Funkeh`WTF
05:12.44Funkeh`:p
05:12.52AntiarcThen I modded it with SA and Threat was way under KTM
05:13.00AntiarcThen I modded it with SR and Threat matched KTM
05:13.04Funkeh`sounds more believable
05:13.06AntiarcI'm gonna go test it to see which is right.
05:13.19AntiarcVE is neither Disc or Holy
05:13.19Kemayowobin_: It may well still complain if anyone is including scripts without setting the appropriate svn props to make them executable, of course.
05:13.21AntiarcSo I dunno
05:13.32AntiarcIt makes sense to affect it with SA rather than SR
05:13.59NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: you could always do sh ./script.sh
05:14.13NightHawkTheSanethat way they don't need to be +x
05:14.59KemayoNightHawkTheSane: Pfft, that way I need different code-paths for unix and windows. :P
05:15.37NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: *gasp*
05:15.43wobin_NightHawkTheSane: It's not allowing me to do the directory removal etc without sudoing
05:15.54NightHawkTheSanewobin_: I bet i know why.
05:16.24NightHawkTheSanewobin_: the changelogs in the zips have no permissions (000), so you can't -do- anything to them without a chmod or a sudo.
05:16.44NightHawkTheSaneI've mentioned this before, to Kaelten I think.
05:17.48KemayoThat does sound like something that should be changed.
05:18.01NightHawkTheSaneYes, it should. They ought to be 644
05:18.57kenlyric777!
05:20.22NightHawkTheSanegahh.. the audio on this gets out of sync at some point. ><
05:22.06Thorgard^2NightHawkTheSane, so adjust it. ;P
05:26.46NightHawkTheSanethats a pain in the ass :P
05:27.09hyperChipmunknum+/num-
05:27.17Funkeh`later folks
05:31.04Lyfewow, that's weird.  I've got errors about the Thread lib embedded in Omen & Violation, but not out of ThreatLib itself (yeah, I have all 3 installed, i'm weird)
05:31.29art3misgot that topic is so awesome
05:31.42art3mishey wobin btw what are you running right now as a system?
05:35.21AntiarcLyfe: All 3 are up to date?
05:37.27ckknighthey all, back
05:38.48NightHawkTheSanefront!
05:39.44nymbialeft!
05:40.40CIA-2203sayclub * r40331 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
05:40.40CIA-22Babble-2.2:
05:40.40CIA-22- Boss: koKR Update
05:41.45ckknightsidewards!
05:43.46ckknightwe must move forwards, not backwards; upwards, not forwards; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
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05:44.49NightHawkTheSanehehehe
05:44.59Lywellyn|AwayDon't mind me, screwing with IRC stuff >.> <.<
05:48.52LywellynI sorry ;_;
05:49.03NightHawkTheSanemeh, dont be sorry, ckknight's a dick
05:49.58ckknightlol
05:50.27LyfeAntiarc: i believe so.  (I would have responded earlier, but my dsl died).
05:50.43AntiarcHm. You should only be getting errors from one copy.
05:51.00Lyfe40330 on omen.
05:51.36Lyfewell, i'm suprised i'm getting errors at all, honestly.  i deleted the embedded Threat-1.0 directories in both Omen and Violation, and no errors.
05:51.47Kaeltenya I'm not sure why that have no permissions though
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05:54.13CIA-2203ckknight * r40332 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - no longer use RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE or PARTY_LEADER_CHANGED, because after testing, they seem pointless.
05:54.55CIA-2203ckknight * r40333 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix a typo
05:58.15NightHawkTheSaneKaelten: my first guess would be the script generating the changelog files, might be an issue with what user that's running as, or something with how it's writing the files?
05:58.39NightHawkTheSaneBut Having really no idea how that all works on the back end, I'm just randomly guessing
05:58.55Kaeltenya probably
05:59.08KaeltenI guess I could have the script run a chmod 777 on each file as it generates it
05:59.20NightHawkTheSane644 would be best, actually.
05:59.28Kaeltenya
06:02.45CIA-2203ckknight * r40334 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - keep track of offline/online through PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED instead of PARTY_MEMBER_ENABLE/DISABLE, as that isn't accurate.
06:06.09KarlThePaganYOU DON'T NEED THOSE EXTRA FRAMES Kaelten! what a waste!
06:06.19KarlThePaganomfg.....
06:06.39NightHawkTheSanecan I have Kaelten's extra frames?
06:06.45KarlThePaganyes me too
06:07.10KarlThePagan"Omen - because some people need their extra frames"
06:07.16NightHawkTheSaneKarlThePagan: lol
06:07.38NightHawkTheSanehm.. empire records is a pretty good movie, even if the last half was totally out of sync
06:08.50Kaeltenheh
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06:14.02nymbiait's great how he denies that anyone could use the extra processor power
06:14.13nymbiajust because Kaelten needs to turn on his vsync
06:14.17nymbiagawd what a noob
06:14.51KarlThePaganat this point I would have to question his professional expertise if he has any... he's really grasping at straws to stick to his update polling mechanism
06:14.55NightHawkTheSanenymbia: yeah, him and the idiots who make the same arguments make my head hurt.
06:15.11NightHawkTheSaneThe irony being that for me, wow is 100% cpu limited.
06:15.18nymbiaof course, nobody's gonna have any machines that get pushed under the vsync threshold by KTM's eatage
06:15.21KarlThePagansame here
06:15.40NightHawkTheSaneI've got plenty of memory, a capable video card, but my cpu just cant keep with them
06:16.23KarlThePaganpeople get pissy when they're told that their code is shit
06:16.40KarlThePaganthere's no way around it... it's the first mark of an immature developer
06:17.25nymbiai will hear no insinuations about kenco's mad skillz!
06:17.30Lywellyno.O
06:19.56nymbiaewww
06:20.47nymbia~smite hyperChipmunk
06:20.56purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves hyperChipmunk from crown to sole.
06:20.56hyperChipmunkD8<
06:22.18CIA-2203hegarol * r40335 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
06:22.18CIA-22AtlasLoot:
06:22.19CIA-22- Loot improvements
06:22.58CIA-2203ckknight * r40336 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - slight optimization
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06:23.42JaxonI should start mirroring the comments on Curse to put into a wiki page or something.
06:24.12KarlThePaganwe need a summary of these arguments on wowwiki... I deffinately think so
06:24.30stavmarweird question and sorry if it has been asked. What is the recommended verion of Pitbull to be using due to the bug issues that will not be fixes till 2.1.2?
06:24.42stavmarfixed*
06:24.56Jaxonstavmar: the login message lists a revision.
06:25.19stavmaryeah i ma not logged in i thought maybe someone would know?
06:28.04hyperChipmunk39408
06:28.04stavmardo you know if this was affecting FPS in raids or groups, or is it a different bug that is being addressed?
06:28.10ckknightstavmar: r39408
06:28.19stavmarthank you hyperChipmunk and ckknight
06:29.25Jaxonstavmar: I believe it was a client crash.
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06:30.58stavmarJaxon: I really never ran into a client crash but maybe once and I update teh Pitbull addon at least once per day. I was concerned when I read about this bug because I just recently got my guild to switch and I want to make sure everything is in order so they all dont freak out on me :-(
06:31.40JaxonI think it has something to do with bring grouped, something getting corrected in 2.1.2 but I haven't checked out the UI&Macros forum recently to see what it is.
06:34.11JaxonThe funny part is that the whole argument started when someone said that "If you changed away from onupdate to events, your mod would see increase performance" and all he says now is "no one is offering reasonable suggestions"
06:35.06JaxonAnd people are going to more lengths to give him real data than most users would.
06:35.24JaxonInstead of just "KTM makes WoW slow all the time, in and out of raids" they are providing actual numbers.
06:36.16stavmarso does those threat type mods slow wow down that much, based on the reading i get it does not seem any worse than any other mods I use..Mostly all from the Ace family of developers
06:37.06CIA-2203ckknight * r40337 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - another slight optimization
06:38.51CIA-2203sayclub * r40338 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: koKR Update
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06:40.57Jaxonstavmar: really, adding one more mod to the pile will use more resources than if it wasn't there, but the issue is that the "first" threat mod does some really unnecessary churning on the hardware.
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06:41.48NightHawkTheSanestavmar: "threat type" mods have no inherent performance hit above and beyond any other damage meter style mds.
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06:42.10NightHawkTheSaneKTM in particular just uses some poor implementation, causing it to use significantly more CPU usage than is realistically necessary.
06:42.45stavmarNightHawkTheSane: well when i use SWStats i notice a degredation in my performance when i use Violation those issues disappear during combat. Omen is working like a charm, i just need to convince my guild to switch
06:43.09stavmarmy computer performance and my performance due to the slow down to fps on my computer...
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06:44.36NightHawkTheSaneyeah, SWS does a fair bit of number crunching though, so not all of its performance issues may be related to implementation, but I haven't looked at the code or anything. Relatively speaking, Violation is extremely simple compared to SWS
06:45.20Kaelten~lart hyperChipmunk
06:45.20purlburns hyperChipmunk to a crisp with a laser
06:45.30Kaelten~lart hyperChipmunk
06:45.30purloffers hyperChipmunk some herring
06:45.49NightHawkTheSaneaww, whats with all the hyperChipmunk hate tonight?
06:45.50NightHawkTheSane~comfort hyperChipmunk
06:45.57purlThere, there, hyperChipmunk.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
06:45.57stavmarwell that is why it is hard to switch to it, allthough violation generally gets the job done to inform your guildies where they need to improve
06:46.07Kaelten:P
06:47.15JaxonSWStats keeps data and parses it depending on the display, which is where the resource use comes from, but it also allows you to compare things over long term.
06:51.05Jagobahif Violation can merge pets I would be happy to use it :D
06:51.50stavmarso if i replace pitbull r39408 do i just replace teh lua file or do i need to replace all the folders. I use exteranl libraries. After this first attempt i received several errors at login.
06:54.04AntiarcAnd I'm out of the KTM thread.
06:54.28AntiarcKenco's made a phenominal ass out of himself, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together can make their own determination.
06:55.28wobin_Antiarc: They might start a fire that way
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06:56.38CIA-2203ckknight * r40339 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
06:56.38CIA-22DogTag-1.0 - remove PLAYER_ALIVE, PLAYER_DEAD, PLAYER_UNGHOST references, as those apparently only work for "player", no other units.
06:56.38CIA-22- optimize AFK, Disconnect checks significantly.
06:56.38CIA-22- remove RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE, PARTY_LEADER_CHANGED, PARTY_MEMBER_ENABLE, PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE references
06:59.55stavmarwow you guys were harsh to Kenco, I guess it serves him right, lol
07:00.59KarlThePaganyou'd have to read 12+ pages of that to understand how it snowballed into what most people have read on the subject
07:01.18stavmarlol, it is entertaining to say the least....
07:01.26toddin threat-1.0, priest.lua line 94, attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'shadowAffinityMod' (a nil value)
07:01.28toddwhen I fade
07:01.41toddand no points in shadow affinity
07:02.08toddr40312
07:02.35Starinniawell, the entire discussion helped me persuade my guild's officers to make the switch to Omen :P
07:03.09KarlThePaganI've got 2 of a dozen guild leaders switched to threat/omen/threattoktm
07:03.27Starinniaguild leader is a software dev, he couldn't understand why Kenco wouldn't want to improve his code
07:03.41stavmari will be posting on our boards tomorrow we will all be making the switch, holy crap this stuff is great
07:03.53KarlThePaganI would do the same with assessment, but WowWebStats is more useful offline and assessment is a little intimidating at first
07:03.53Antiarctodd: Fixing that in the next commit
07:04.05toddI think I'm out of the loop on the latest kenco info
07:04.13hyperChipmunk------------------------------------------------------------------------
07:04.13hyperChipmunkr40312 | funkydude | 2007-06-16 22:30:49 -0400 (Sat, 16 Jun 2007) | 1 line
07:04.13hyperChipmunkThreat-1.0: use embeds.xml
07:04.20AntiarcRestarting to test
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07:04.35Starinniawell, it's pretty much all the same stuff that he always posts about his addon todd
07:04.38stavmarWWS has been a great tool in helping our guild to succeed simply for its off-line utility
07:04.45KarlThePaganyea
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07:05.10KarlThePaganI really like how you can get all of that information online with assessment... at least most of it
07:05.26KarlThePagannow all it needs is a who damaged who list in the drilldown
07:05.33KarlThePagannot sure if it's made to do that
07:05.40toddWWS? assessment? I should pay more attention to this channel =/
07:05.52KarlThePaganassessment is a damage meter
07:06.06KarlThePagansame with wow web stats but you can view it offline on a really slick webpage
07:06.37Starinniayeah, WWS is really nice, of course, it made all the people who claim meters mean nothing mad
07:06.59KarlThePagansounds like priests ;)
07:07.07KarlThePaganhehe
07:07.33toddI'm leveling a priest and have no problems posting damage meters every so often :P
07:07.35KarlThePaganmeters in a 40man are different than meters in a 10 or 25 man
07:07.45stavmari think it is easy to use it now that they have designed the page to seperate each attempt on a boss, you can really analyze your raid very well
07:08.02KarlThePaganwell it has more to do with the "omg i healed a lot" vs "the tank did not die on my watch"
07:08.09NightHawkTheSanemeters do mean nothing, really. they're guides and tools, not an engraved-on-stone-tablets law.
07:08.41stavmarThe grull encounter really showed how weak we were in total DPS and WWSS really allowed us to see why it was not good enough
07:09.11KarlThePaganalso "omg i did a lot of damage" vs "i didn't pull aggro and then fein, killing 2 mages who were next to me when the boss tried to eat my face"
07:09.17Starinniayup, people, in my guild at least, thought we were using the meters on a night by night basis to judge them
07:09.17stavmarbut i agree, they are tools they inform you of the path you should begin to take definitely not the absolute truth, but comapring within class characteristics is extremely helpful.
07:09.28Starinniawhen really, we were collecting data and watching trends
07:09.34stavmarthey still do, trust me
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07:13.25CIA-2203ckknight * r40340 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added modifier ShortDruidForm, and tag alias ShortDruidForm => [DruidForm:ShortDruidForm]
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07:15.13CIA-2203athou * r40341 10FuBar_PitchFu/ (. FuBar_PitchFu.lua FuBar_PitchFu.toc):
07:15.13CIA-22FuBar_PitchFu: initial commit
07:15.13CIA-22- Shows your camera pitch
07:15.26ckknightAthou: how do you tell?
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07:16.00AthouI'm using SaveView(5) and GetCVar("cameraPitchD")
07:16.11Lywellyn|LaptopWhat thread was everyone talking about earlier?
07:17.14ckknightLywellyn|Away: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/
07:17.23stavmarnymbia: lol
07:17.41nymbiastavmar: rofl
07:17.55Killmorecamera pitch ?
07:17.57Killmorewhat is that ?
07:18.46ckknightlook forward. raise your head. your pitch has changed.
07:18.57Killmoreok
07:19.08CIA-2203athou * r40342 10FuBar_PitchFu/:
07:19.08CIA-22FuBar_PitchFu:
07:19.08CIA-22- setting up externals
07:19.27CIA-2203sayclub * r40343 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR typo fix
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07:20.38NightHawkTheSaneshame you can't get what your flight pitch is.
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07:22.47art3mishttp://www.wnbc.com/news/13515711/detail.html
07:22.54art3miswell thats quite awesome
07:23.03art3misviagra being used for what it was originally created for
07:23.17art3misand the fact that its working is even cooler
07:23.46art3misNightHawkTheSane: yeah i'd love an altimeter that showed how high you were and wehether you were flying level
07:24.08toddViolation.lua:2988: Dewdrop-2.0: Bad argument #2 to 'FeedAceOptionsTable' (table expected, got nil) as soon as I entered combat after messing around with my windows and eventually deleting them all
07:24.22wobin_I think Shirik was working on something like that
07:24.35Shirik?
07:24.38art3misoh wobin did you answer me on what type of pc you've got?
07:24.47Shirikwobin_: ?
07:24.48NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: to hell with how high you are, I just want to know if I can go afk while flying and not find my self flying into the base of a mountain. ;)
07:24.50wobin_oh did you ask?
07:24.58Shirikask what?
07:24.58clad|sleep8-Ball says: "Well, uhm, er, no."
07:25.02art3misyeah like 4 hours ago ;P
07:25.15art3misNightHawkTheSane: heh yeah
07:25.20wobin_Shirik: Altimeter thingie?
07:25.23Shirikoh right
07:25.26art3misshirik: what i said directed at nighthawk
07:25.27CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40344 10BulkMail2/BulkMailFu.lua:
07:25.27CIA-22BulkMail2:
07:25.27CIA-22- removed duplicate menu items from the FuBar plugin
07:25.42wobin_I'm running Ubuntu on a laptop
07:25.47Shirikyeah I have it mostly working
07:25.50art3misserious?
07:25.50wobin_what sort of specs do you need?
07:25.50Shirikit just needs a GUI
07:25.55Shirikwobin_: So am I
07:25.56CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40345 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailFu.lua:
07:25.56CIA-22BulkMail2Inbox:
07:25.56CIA-22- removed duplicate menu items from the FuBar plugin
07:25.59art3miswere you looking for a new desktop?
07:26.06Shirikbut yeah, it's very possible. Just a crap ton of calculus
07:26.09wobin_yeah
07:26.09art3misive got shitloads of spare parts ;P
07:26.10wobin_eventually
07:26.14Shirikif you want to search the WoW forums, my calculations are sitll up there
07:26.22wobin_Shipping would probably invalidate any savings =)
07:28.01Lywellyn|LaptopDamn.  Just skimming the last two pages, the guy needs to get his head out of his ass.
07:28.37toddthe pages on ktm comments?
07:28.41toddor is there a thread somewhere
07:28.48Lywellyn|Laptopthe pages on KTM comments
07:28.59Lywellyn|Laptopbtw, green = curse staff and positive comments, or something else?
07:29.04CIA-2203ckknight * r40346 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - you can only be AFK when you're connected.
07:29.24AntiarcYeah, that's it
07:29.27hyperChipmunkcurse staff don't have to be green
07:29.34hyperChipmunkk just made his
07:29.35NightHawkTheSaneLywellyn|Away: yeah, green comments are either Curse staff, or comments that have been modded up to +5 or better i think
07:29.39NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: oh?
07:29.47art3misshirik: screw a gui ;) just have it work like location fu so that level is 0% incline ;)
07:29.50hyperChipmunkyea, at first, we couldn't make K's green
07:29.56Shirikyeah but that's boring :(
07:29.57hyperChipmunkbecause we can't vote on staff posts
07:30.02hyperChipmunkso he had them made green =p
07:30.06Lywellyn|LaptopAhh.
07:30.21Shirikbtw
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07:30.22Shirikhere's the calculations
07:30.27Shirikfound the thread
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07:30.36art3misyeah like im gonna do something with it ;P
07:30.39Shirika = arccos([(1/(2sqrt(x^2+y^2)))(2x(dx/dt)+2y(dy/dt))]/[(m+1)s])
07:30.44Shirikhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=77785285&sid=1&pageNo=3
07:30.53Lywellyn|LaptopStinkin' wireless network.
07:30.54art3misthere wobin
07:31.08art3misgo make an addon that displays a airplane like altimeter ;P
07:31.35Shirikyou mean artificial horizon?
07:31.38art3misyes
07:31.40Shirik;)
07:31.44ShirikSorry, I go to an aeronautical school
07:31.45art3misheh
07:31.48Shirikvery picky of this stuff :P
07:31.55art3misand buttons that glow red
07:31.56Shirikactually majoring in avionics so this stuff is pretty straightforward to me
07:32.02art3misneed lots of those
07:32.18art3misand a couple of little circles for fuel level and speed ;P
07:32.25Shirikhaha
07:32.29NightHawkTheSaneShirik: hmm... while that formula is about half a foot away from gibberish to me, reading the thread, I think I begin to see the underlying concept
07:32.32art3misand it needs to load and unload only if yer on a flying mount ;P
07:32.50ShirikNightHawkTheSane: Just simple calculus :)
07:32.53art3misand then you can make a whisper addon for the tower ;)
07:33.05hyperChipmunkShirik: i tried that, too; i was using straightline vs. actual velocity to get pitch
07:33.05art3misso they can guide you to places to land n stuff
07:33.06NightHawkTheSaneShirik: I barely passed my calc classes with a C in college ;)
07:33.13CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r51 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (10 files in 3 dirs):
07:33.13CIA-22thrae-wow: TinyTip - The long-awaited first commit of version 0.2, completely untested.
07:33.13CIA-22thrae-wow: This version keeps support for saved settings and anchoring in a different
07:33.13CIA-22thrae-wow: addon, which I have not finished yet. You should delete your saved variables for
07:33.13CIA-22thrae-wow: TinyTip in your WTF folder.
07:33.17hyperChipmunkyou cant' tell whether the pitch is positive or negative though
07:33.26hyperChipmunkwtf
07:33.37art3miswonder why they chose to make it a WTF folder
07:33.42art3misknowing that WTF was what the fuck
07:33.48Shirikcorrect
07:33.51Shirikyou have to make a guess
07:33.56hyperChipmunkquestion asked; question answered
07:34.02art3misthats where height comes in
07:34.07Shirikhowever, in my tests, that guess is very possible
07:34.26hyperChipmunkthere is no height
07:34.27art3misif you start off a x height and it decreases obvious its a negative pitch ;P
07:34.29NightHawkTheSaneo_0 what was up with CIA-22 there?
07:34.33art3misZ axis
07:34.42hyperChipmunkcoordinates are map coordinates
07:34.45hyperChipmunkthere's no Z
07:34.45art3misor is that invisible to normal people?
07:35.07CIA-2203antiarc * r40347 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed Vamp Embrace threat. Fixed shadow spells when you have no points in Shadow Affinity.
07:35.09Shirikthe way you determine negative or positive axis
07:35.14art3misbut range fidners can detect is something is to high
07:35.20hyperChipmunkif there were Z, you could have all sorts of things
07:35.23Shirikis by holding a flag and detecting moving past 0 degrees
07:35.26art3mishow do they do that?
07:35.29Shirikand inversing the sign
07:35.32art3mishyper there is a Z
07:35.36Shirikit takes a frequent update interval to do that, but possible
07:35.38Kalman|Antiarc: VE heals affected by holy threat talents, or none?
07:35.41art3misuits just not an accessible featuire
07:35.44AntiarcKalman|: Holy
07:35.45hyperChipmunknot to addons there aren't
07:35.48AntiarcTest data's in the file itself
07:36.00art3misKalman|: nope
07:36.05art3misoh wait yes
07:36.07Kalman|Antiarc: Figured.  Might actually be worth respeccing to get those now.
07:36.11art3misthat threat reduction talent?
07:36.15AntiarcKalman|: Actually...wait
07:36.15Shirikart3mis: as far as addons are concerned, there is no way to determine height
07:36.23AntiarcIt might be not modified.
07:36.26AntiarcBugger.
07:36.29AntiarcI missed a calculation
07:36.31Shiriks/no way/no direct way/
07:36.35Kalman|Heh.
07:36.36hyperChipmunkanyway, that's exactly what i did =)
07:36.39art3misnods
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07:36.44art3misim just used to wowemu n stuff
07:36.51art3miswhere z is obvious
07:37.12art3misdidnt even occurr that its not a real accessible ingame thingy
07:37.41JaxonPitbull has an offline timer for people?  ckknight I love you
07:38.00ckknightOffline, AFK, and Dead
07:38.08art3misckk
07:38.13ckknightyes?
07:38.13AntiarcKalman|: http://ace.pastey.net/57010
07:38.17art3misyou need to make a raid leader settig for "jerks"
07:38.19AntiarcThat seems to say no threat reduction
07:38.26Antiarc1 point in SR, 5 points in SA
07:38.29art3misso the RL can mark the jerks that afk during attempts ;P
07:38.29ckknightart3mis: how do you mean?
07:38.43ckknightRL?
07:38.46art3miskind f like a pvp flag sorta thingy
07:38.47QuantumDeltaraid leader
07:38.49art3misraid leader
07:39.00art3misonly its visible to those that have pitbull
07:39.08art3miseven though im not all that sure its possible ;P
07:39.22Kalman|Antiarc: All threat talents taken?
07:39.26Kalman|Both holy and shadow?
07:39.27Antiarc1 point in SR, 5 points in SA
07:39.34Kalman|...
07:39.35AntiarcSo 4% holy reduction, 25% shadow
07:39.38AntiarcNot my priest!
07:39.41art3misor just change the AFK flag to JERK after 5mins ;P
07:39.43Kalman|It's 4 AM, I would have seen it in the file eventually.  :)
07:39.44AntiarcI'm borrowing a guildie's
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07:39.51Kalman|No, the ... was for me.
07:40.17bigzerohyperChipmunk, how do you cod with BulkMail?
07:40.20art3misAntiarc: you're factoring salvation too right?
07:40.36ckknightart3mis: you can see everyone's AFK status...
07:40.43art3missalvation is a SP's best friend ;P
07:40.46Antiarcart3mis: Yes
07:40.55AntiarcKalman|: Heh, okay
07:40.56bigzerohyperChipmunk, bah, nvm...guess i have to drag and drop
07:40.58hyperChipmunkI had altimeter, fake horizon, and a spiffy HSI, but it couldn't be made robust enough to actually put out there
07:41.06hyperChipmunkbigzero: what do you mean?
07:41.08kebinusanHow close is Threat to being betaish? Id like my guild to use it but having them update so frequently probably wouldnt happen
07:41.16art3misckknight: nods you should code it so that 5mins or more afk and it reads JERK instead of AFK ;P
07:41.24ckknightnah...
07:41.25Kalman|Antiarc: I don't think you can say conclusively based on that data.
07:41.26hyperChipmunkenter a cod value, and it will apply to all items in the send
07:41.27ckknightthat's not necessary
07:41.37Kalman|Mmm, wait, maybe you can.
07:41.37art3misoh
07:41.48bigzerohyperChipmunk, ooo
07:41.49art3misso necessity is a factor in suggestions?
07:41.53art3miswell damn
07:41.55art3mis;)
07:42.12art3misoh
07:42.17art3misthere was something i meant to mention
07:42.22Kalman|The pulled aggro line means on the hit that took you from 1435-1447?
07:42.28art3misdoes pitbull control buffs and debuffs?
07:42.35CIA-2203celellach * r40348 10AtlasLoot/PvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua:
07:42.35CIA-22AtlasLoot:
07:42.35CIA-22- small change to check something
07:42.51art3misas in is it responsible for displaying them
07:43.08ckknightyes.
07:43.08art3miscuz since the latest i havent seen my mount "buff"
07:43.12bigzerohyperChipmunk, but you don't have to select COD, do you? because I can't
07:43.41hyperChipmunkshould be able to
07:43.48AntiarcKalman|: I did not have aggro at 1435, I had aggro at 1447
07:43.48ckknightart3mis: I doubt it would show, honestly, since it's not something you cast as a spell, therefore the filtering catches it
07:43.54art3misahh okay
07:43.57hyperChipmunkI thought i made it be enabled once there's items in the sendqueue
07:44.05art3misnot a big deal just wasnt sure if it was meant that way
07:44.11bigzerohyperChipmunk, recent patch?
07:44.12Kalman|Antiarc: OK.  That implies VE heals aren't affected by threat reductions at all.
07:44.15Kalman|Saves me a respec fee!
07:44.22CIA-2203laric * r40349 10nQuestLog/modules/Comments.lua: nQuestLog - took code from QuestFu to make comments work.
07:44.23AntiarcCorrect, but when I don't mod it, I get weird numbers. :/
07:44.24hyperChipmunkday before yesterday?
07:44.36ThraeAntiarc: My aggro is always 1337!
07:44.38bigzerothen i haven't updated yet
07:44.43hyperChipmunk/bonk
07:45.41hyperChipmunkhttp://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2
07:45.56hyperChipmunklast paragraph of section two
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07:52.57Jaxonckknight_: probably dont' need death timers on pets?
07:53.09ckknight*shrug*
07:53.18ckknightI think it does it anyway
07:53.40hyperChipmunklol i just saw that
07:53.45hyperChipmunkwhat does it mean?
07:53.58ckknightsaw what?
07:54.10ckknightthe death timer?
07:54.13hyperChipmunkDead (1:16)
07:54.13hyperChipmunkyea
07:54.19hyperChipmunkon my pet
07:54.22ckknightDead (1:23) means they've been dead for 1 minute, 23 seconds
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07:54.54hyperChipmunkis that useful?
07:55.10ckknightprobably not on pets
07:55.16ckknightBankZ requested it
07:55.19ckknight...blame him
07:55.22hyperChipmunkah, yea, i guess if it was on normal ppl
07:55.26hyperChipmunkthe time to release
07:55.35hyperChipmunkbut yea
07:55.43hyperChipmunkno use on pets
07:58.38AntiarcKalman|: I'm doing more tests, and the data's gone all to hell
07:58.39JaxonDouble firelord pulls are really hard with only 6 people.
07:58.43JaxonJust thought you'd want to know.
08:06.47AntiarcAnd now my data is showing that VE heals are affected by SR. *boggle*
08:12.45hyperChipmunki suck
08:13.05hyperChipmunkI flopped all the way to Talon King Ikiss and I forgot all my arcane resist gear
08:13.25CIA-2203celellach * r40350 10AtlasLoot/PvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua:
08:13.25CIA-22AtlasLoot:
08:13.25CIA-22- deleted non epic sets in order to try and update.
08:14.33Kalman|Antiarc: I'm in SL, but if you put it up somewhere, I'll take a look when I'm done.
08:14.46AntiarcI'm trying to get some solid numbers, but everything I have doesn't make sense.
08:14.54Kalman|Heh.
08:15.08Kalman|If it made sense, wouldn't need me to take a look at it to break my brain too.  :)
08:15.20AntiarcI have to be getting some weird numbers off of Focused Casting procs or something
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08:17.26Kalman|Try reversing the test to remove that possibility?
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08:19.17CIA-2203borlox * r40351 10Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0.lua:
08:19.17CIA-22Layout-1.0:
08:19.17CIA-22-merged SetXOffset, SetYOffset to SetOffset(x, y)
08:19.17CIA-22-merged SetXSpacer, SetYSpacer to SetSpacer(x, y)
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08:19.46CIA-22AtlasLoot:
08:19.46CIA-22- Restored non epic sets.
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08:22.01Finlast pitbull
08:22.04Finoops
08:22.06Fin+/
08:22.51Jaxonfiles.wowace.com/PitBull/ has all the revisions
08:23.09Finyeah, but I can't remember the revision number now, because WoW's crashed
08:23.13JaxonAlso, is there an auction addon that lets me choose what kind of stacks of which quanities I can put stuff up at auction?
08:23.17Jaxon39408 ?
08:23.18Finand the mesage was when Pitbull loaded
08:23.22Finthanks
08:24.06wobin_what version do we revert to?
08:24.11wobin_ah
08:25.00Finwhat a horrible bug
08:25.09CIA-2203ckknight * r40353 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
08:25.09CIA-22DogTag-1.0 - remove a bunch of global references.
08:25.09CIA-22- make it so that non-raid/party units (including pets) don't have a death timer.
08:26.07*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | Revert to PitBull r39408 if you observe crashes (this is until WoW 2.1.2 releases)
08:26.10JaxonOkay, so, apparently Auctioneer can do what I want, but I don't need the whole thing, sigh.
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08:32.36wobin_39408.1046?
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08:32.58NightHawkTheSaneBLEARGH
08:33.16NightHawkTheSanetwo plots in evn finished, four more to go..
08:33.21Kalman|Heh.
08:33.24Kalman|Nova?
08:33.27NightHawkTheSaneyep
08:33.32Kalman|So good.
08:33.35NightHawkTheSaneindeed.
08:33.49Kalman|I did all 6 too.  So good.
08:34.45NightHawkTheSaneYeah, course all the EVs have been amazingly good.
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08:35.57AntiarcKalman|: I can't get consistent data out of this
08:36.06AntiarcPlz to test if you find yourself with time
08:36.13AntiarcBecause I sure as hell can't figure out what's going on
08:38.38Kalman|I'll see what I can do.
08:39.19AntiarcI have my suspicion that Focused Casting procs are throwing off my numbers, but I can't say for sure.
08:39.58Kalman|Think FC generates threat?
08:40.59Antiarcthat's the only other variable, and it's taking more threat than I'd expect to pull aggro off of my VE priest at range
08:42.14CIA-2203borlox * r40354 10Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0.lua:
08:42.14CIA-22Layout-1.0:
08:42.14CIA-22-Fixed a bug in layout:Clear()
08:43.13wobin_goddamnit
08:43.31wobin_I'm buying a new computer this week
08:43.43wobin_I can't get -any- worthwhile fps at the moment
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08:43.52wobin_And I just crash
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08:45.01Antiarcwobin_: Install KLHPerformanceMonitor
08:45.06AntiarcI hear it increases your framerate
08:45.20wobin_I'll have to run 10 copies
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08:45.52NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: psh, thats a lie. wobin_ doesn't even need those frames! hell he can just turn vsync on and be just fine.
08:46.47Antiarcoh yeah, vsync makes your computer run at 60 FPS no matter what, right?
08:46.54NightHawkTheSaneobviously.
08:47.05NightHawkTheSanei mean, thats why I get such bad fps, cause I have vsync off
08:47.13nevcairielvsync will limit your fps to your monitor refresh rate
08:47.19nevcairiel:p
08:47.28NightHawkTheSanenevcairiel: yes, we're quite aware. :)
08:47.42Kalman|nevcairiel: Kenco.
08:47.59Kalman|(I think that one word should be adequate explanation.)
08:48.10nevcairieli know, ive read the comments on cu
08:48.28Kalman|Were you laughing the whole time?
08:48.30Kalman|I know I was.
08:48.42CIA-2203antiarc * r40355 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a typo that was letting KTM threat mix with ThreatLib threat, resulting in double threat being shown sometimes for people running Threat + KTM.
08:48.46Arrowmastershould find somebody that gets just above 60 fps without KTM and just below 60 fps with KTM to turn on vsync and post preformance info for kenco since he seems to think vsync on is a good idea
08:49.05Kalman|Hm.
08:49.15Kalman|I'm at 67 right now in Slabs with Threat, no KTM.
08:50.03Arrowmasterwould be funny for the 'OMG KTM CUT MY FPS IN HALF' joke
08:51.02nevcairielwonder if antiarc fixed the embeds.xml thing yet
08:51.11AntiarcI haven't touched it
08:51.18AntiarcBut I'm still not sure why it's broken
08:51.19Antiarcworksforme
08:51.26nevcairielit breaks when you run embeds
08:51.35nevcairielbecause it tries to parse a .xml file as a .lua file
08:51.35nevcairiel:D
08:52.21nevcairielanyway, i will fix it then
08:52.39Antiarcok, please do
08:52.58nevcairieljust grabbing a full omen with embeds for testing
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08:54.39NightHawkTheSaneGAH. really need to pay attention to what app i'm in.
08:54.40nevcairielwow my ui loads fast with no addons except omen =P
08:55.47CIA-2203nevcairiel * r40356 10Omen/embeds.xml: Omen: <Include> other .xml files, not <Script> them :D
08:56.19nevcairielAntiarc: another error tho, i run nothing but a clean omen checkout, and this line errors for me : local parser = ParserLib:GetInstance("1.1")
08:57.08Antiarcline #?
08:57.11CIA-2203roartindon * r40357 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: Assessment: Fixed death counts
08:57.17nevcairiel292 in class modulecore
08:57.48nevcairielattempt to index upvalue yadayada
08:57.52Antiarcnevcairiel: That would indicate that neither parser30 or parser11 got loaded
08:57.58odtanyone get a WebClient exception when starting WowAceUpdater ?
08:58.47nevcairielAntiarc: ah found it
08:59.07CIA-2203nevcairiel * r40358 10Omen/embeds.xml: Omen: fix parser in the embeds.xml
09:01.05CIA-2203nevcairiel * r40359 10Violation/embeds.xml: Violation: fix threat in embeds.xml
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09:01.55nevcairielany other addons that embed it?
09:02.08nevcairielassessment is already correct, pitbull has no embeds.xml
09:02.13nevcairielguess thats all :)
09:03.57AntiarcI need to sleep, but more tomorrow!
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09:13.05KemayoWhat's the benefit from using embeds.xml?
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09:49.19Higduranyone know the command for Bartender3 to save the bar's position?
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09:52.37vrakhmm
09:53.00vrakis it known that Threat-1.0 has problems with 'locks?
09:53.44Kalman|Define "problems".
09:54.22vraki got an error logging on with my lock
09:55.11vrakMessage: ...ddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Warlock.lua line 25: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Race-2.2.
09:55.37Kalman|Antiarc: Ping.
09:55.50Punkie`vrak: are you using embedded or disembedded?
09:56.35nevcairielmake sure to update babble-2.2
09:56.39nevcairieland threat
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09:56.55Kalman|Someone say my name, please, testing something.
09:57.00vrakKalman|?
09:57.04Kalman|Thanks.  :)
09:57.43Punkie`vrak is there any other errors?
09:57.47vrakPunkie`: i'm not using threat inside some other addon if that's what you're asking about
09:58.12vrakand no, that was the only one
09:58.35vrakand i wasn't aware threat depended on babble
09:58.52Punkie`babble is a localization, so it's just easier if it does
09:58.57omega_is there any list on the wiki of addons "activly maintained"?
09:59.30Kalman|That reminds me, I had a Babble question.
09:59.42Kalman|Does it maintain non-locale information in memory after load?
10:00.02Punkie`it's garbage collected i believe
10:00.15Punkie`actually
10:00.18Punkie`hmm :P
10:00.23CIA-2203nevcairiel * r40361 10Threat-1.0/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): Threat-1.0: add Babble-Race to embeds
10:00.31nevcairielvrak: update in 20 minutes =P
10:00.54Punkie`hey nevcairiel, i was just about to click commit :P
10:01.12vraknevcairiel: thanks
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10:02.56ckknightwhere does Threat-1.0 use Babble-Race?
10:03.14Punkie`Warlock.lua line 25? :P
10:04.00nevcairielit uses it to localize "Imp" in warlock module :P
10:04.01ckknightah, okay
10:04.09ckknightcrafty
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10:04.56CIA-2203mitchell * r40362 10RangeCheck/ (. RangeCheck.toc): RangeCheck: fixed externals
10:05.02Silviu-So what`s the point of embeds.xml if u remove it u won`t get so many errors in FrameXML.log ?
10:05.12CIA-2203mitchell * r40363 10RangeCheck-1.0/ (. RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua RangeCheck-1.0.toc): RangeCheck-1.0: fixed externals
10:05.13nevcairieli think its loading time is faster
10:05.16nevcairielwhen its removed
10:05.27nevcairielonly one file that errors
10:05.31nevcairieland not a dozen
10:05.31Silviu-True
10:05.39mitch0yo guys
10:05.52Silviu-Then maybe all addons/libs can addopt this ?
10:05.52Silviu-;)
10:05.55mitch0how can I change my client to german or french?
10:06.52KemayoHas anyone actually confirmed this loading time theory?
10:06.57ckknightnot sure, mitch0
10:07.00ckknightKemayo: yes.
10:07.08mitch0hm. there's a SET local "enGB" in config.wtf...
10:07.11mitch0let's try
10:07.22nevcairielmitch0: if you are EU, download the language pack. if you are US, you are out of luck :P
10:07.22Silviu-ckknight u have a lot of addons/libs u can addopt it ;p
10:07.34ckknightNO U
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10:08.13Silviu-Me ? :(
10:08.45CIA-2203ckknight * r40364 10PitBull/ (6 files in 6 dirs): PitBull - in configMode, icons should be shown no matter what.
10:09.30CIA-2203ckknight * r40365 10PitBull/RaidTargetIcon/RaidTargetIcon.lua: PitBull_RaidTargetIcon - tweaks to the configMode icon chooser.
10:11.20mitch0didn't work :(
10:11.32mitch0I'm not sure I have an international client at all, to be hones
10:11.33mitch0t
10:11.57nevcairielas i said, if you are EU, you can download the ELP ( European Language Pack ) for those languages
10:12.01nevcairielif you are US, no luck.
10:12.10mitch0ah
10:12.17mitch0so it's a lot of trouble :)
10:12.26nevcairielits extra content
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10:12.46mitch0wonder if it screws up my default install or not...
10:13.14mitch0also wonder if it's worth to do just to make my addon properly localized for at least the eu versions, or if I should wait for some volunteers :)
10:13.42mitch0actually, anyone here with a non english client? I just need 3 tooltip texts :)
10:14.06nevcairieli could switch my client to german
10:14.43mitch0nice. could you tell me the tooltip text for "30 yd range", "Melee Range" and "8-35 yd range"
10:15.06mitch0Melee Range is on Rend for example, or Wing Clip
10:15.21mitch0the 8-x range is on hunter shots and charge/intercept
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10:17.49nevcairielMelee Range is "Nahkampfreichweite"
10:17.53mitch0~
10:17.56mitch0jeebus
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10:18.22nevcairielx yd Range is "30 m Reichweite"
10:18.42nevcairiel8-35 is "8-25 m Reichweite"
10:19.12nevcairielquick changing again, man thats ugly =P
10:19.22mitch0er, could you retype those please
10:19.24Punkie`so the gameworld is actually bigger for european locales?!
10:19.31mitch0no copy paste on this term, turned on irc logging
10:19.39nevcairielMelee Range is "Nahkampfreichweite"
10:19.43nevcairielx yd Range is "30 m Reichweite"
10:19.49nevcairiel8-25 is "8-25 m Reichweite"
10:19.54mitch0thanks
10:19.56nevcairielPunkie`: of course.
10:20.31nevcairielbut its the best solution just renaming it imho :)
10:20.55CIA-2203ckknight * r40366 10PitBull/PvPIcon/PvPIcon.lua: PitBull_PvPIcon - in configMode, instead of random icons, set the icons based on the unit, e.g. friendly will be your own faction, friendly's target will be opposite faction.
10:21.23ckknightmitch0: do you know if there's a GLOBAL_STRING for it or not?
10:22.01nevcairielSPELL_RANGE = "%s yd range";
10:22.09nevcairielMELEE_RANGE = "Melee Range";
10:22.20ckknightokay
10:22.28ckknightthen just deformat it if you're scanning
10:22.38ckknightmuch simpler overall and no crazy hacks for each locale
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10:24.33mitch0oh
10:24.46mitch0well, actually, I need a regex out of it like:
10:24.57mitch0%d+)-(%d+) yd range
10:25.08mitch0(%d+)-(%d+) yd range
10:25.26mitch0possible with deformat somehow?
10:25.47mitch0or deformat the string then do the regex on it in english?
10:26.21mitch0which is the current deformat lib?
10:27.29ckknightDeformat-2.0
10:28.20mitch0hrmp. now to mix it with gratuity...
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10:40.55mitch0actually, where is this globalstrings.lua?
10:41.12mitch0guess I just need that and replcae %s with (%d) in it
10:41.18nevcairielin framexml
10:41.28nevcairiel~framexml
10:41.37purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/
10:41.42nevcairiel~botsnack
10:41.42purl:), nevcairiel
10:43.33mitch0so, it's basically a global like SPELL_RANGE, right?
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10:47.55CIA-2203ckknight * r40367 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua:
10:47.55CIA-22PitBull_CombatText - only show for normal units.
10:47.55CIA-22- show "123" when in configMode.
10:52.15mitch0how can I escape the %s in gsub?
10:52.50mitch0SPELL_RANGE:gsub("%s", "(%d+)") would probably not do what I have in mind
10:53.02ckknightuse Deformat!
10:53.18ckknightthings'll likely mess up otherwise
10:53.24mitch0hehe
10:53.25mitch0:)
10:53.28ckknightbut %s turns into (.+)
10:53.49mitch0well, it would be pretty simple if I can escape %s
10:54.01mitch0much simpler than intermixing deformat with gratuity
10:54.01nevcairiel%% is %
10:54.14mitch0so, "%%s" will be the one for me
10:54.28ckknightum, Gratuity has support for Deformat.
10:55.28mitch0well, I don't see why it would benefit me to introduce yet another dependency just to get rid of a gsub() ...
10:55.55ckknightfine, do what you feel like
10:56.57mitch0I went with gratuity, 'cos the mungling with tooltips was a pita, but in this case it's really not justified, imo
10:57.32smoke_any of you guys play a mage and know about water elemental macros?
10:57.41mitch0a bit
10:58.16mitch0I only use /petattack, /script PetDismiss(), and /click PetActionButtonX (where it's Freeze is)
10:58.28CIA-2203arkayenro 07v2beta * r40368 10ArkInventory/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
10:58.28CIA-22ArkInventory:
10:58.28CIA-22- v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-17-20-45
10:58.31mitch0oh, and /petdefensive, /petagressive, /petfollow
10:59.26mitch0smoke: what's the question anyway?
11:01.27smoke_ok
11:01.40smoke_whats happening is
11:01.51smoke_im using the macro that summons the water elemetnal and uses /petattack
11:02.00smoke_but for some reason, say i use it and spam it on a target
11:02.17smoke_something happesn and it wont change targets when i use the macro again
11:02.50smoke_./cast [nopet] Summon Water Elemental
11:02.58smoke_/stopmacro [target=pettarget, exists]
11:03.04smoke_./petattack
11:03.07nevcairielwell
11:03.14smoke_is there something wrong with that?
11:03.20nevcairielthe /stopmacro will stop the macro when your pet has a target
11:03.24nevcairielso you cannot assign a new target :P
11:03.28smoke_ooh
11:03.34smoke_so i should remove that?
11:03.41Matrix110#showtooltip Frostbolt
11:03.41Matrix110/cast Frostbolt(Rank 13)
11:03.41Matrix110/petattack [target=pettarget,noexists] target
11:03.45Matrix110=best imho :P
11:03.45nevcairieli dunno why you had it in there anyway
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11:04.42Ominousmorning
11:04.48nevcairielmornin
11:04.54smoke_k
11:05.03OminousFin: you about:
11:05.14smoke_ok how about this one
11:05.23smoke_im using this one to summon my WE and if i hit it again it freezes
11:05.28smoke_/cast [nopet] Summon Water Elemental
11:05.34smoke_/stopmacro [nopet]
11:05.38smoke_/click PetActionButton5
11:05.50smoke_that /stopmacro [nopet] shouldnt be in there?
11:05.57smoke_i got these off the wow forums..
11:06.00nevcairielno that sounds right
11:06.04smoke_k cool
11:06.06nevcairielit will stop the macro if you dont have a pet
11:06.12nevcairielif you dont have one, you cannot cast
11:06.12nevcairiel:D
11:06.18smoke_k
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11:10.08smoke_oh yeah i forgot to ask
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11:10.27smoke_if i have a /cancelaura Ice Block command, should that go in front of /stopcasting or behind stop casting?
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11:10.39smoke_im noticing my blink macro w/ /cancelaura Ice Block isn't working really that good...
11:11.17nevcairielwhats it supposed todo?
11:11.43nevcairielremove your block and blink away?
11:11.43smoke_yeah
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11:11.55smoke_i guess img onna have to play w/ them some more
11:12.11nevcairieli dont think you need a stopcasting to do that
11:12.35smoke_oh yeah duh, ur in iceblock.. k
11:12.58nevcairielyou only cast one thing :)
11:13.50Matrix110Anzahl:174229
11:13.50Matrix110bla
11:13.52Matrix110oips
11:13.54Matrix110mt:P
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11:22.42wobin_hm http://www.ticomputers.com.au/
11:22.47wobin_have a look under desktop computers
11:22.56wobin_and the second one, PC User BEst Value PC June
11:23.03wobin_That's what I'm probably going to buy
11:23.25mitch0smoke: I don't think you can make it work (even with stopcasting)
11:23.40mitch0somehow the cancelaura part gets back to the client a bit late
11:23.49mitch0so your best option is to spam that macro
11:23.59nevcairielnice system wobin_
11:24.08wobin_Relatively cheap too =)
11:24.10nevcairieli should prolly upgrade too
11:24.16wobin_I remember when I was paying 4k for a system
11:24.17nevcairielbut no money right now :(
11:24.45liquiemis there a tag for pet spelldmg?
11:24.54nevcairieli only upgrade partial components tho
11:25.02nevcairielnext would be a new mobo/cpu/ram combo
11:26.46CIA-2203mitchell * r40369 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: range parsing is using GlobalStrings now, no need to localize. thanks nevcairiel and ckknight for the tip
11:26.48Matrix110The PC is kinda weird Oo
11:27.05wobin_What would you change, Matrix110?
11:27.13wobin_Well, I have a crappy laptop atm
11:27.20wobin_so a complete desktop is required
11:27.21Matrix110Well i would take a P35 Mainboard and DDR2-800
11:27.27Matrix1104GB directly
11:27.39Matrix110not said if its 32 or 64bit Vista aswell
11:28.05nevcairieli was thinking about getting a c2d 6700 as well
11:28.08Matrix110The LCD brand is it somewhat of good in australia because for me it seems like a noname
11:28.15Matrix110dont nevcairiel
11:28.17Matrix110not atm
11:28.24Matrix110soon new C2Ds come
11:28.29mitch0[ammo]: are you around?
11:29.43nevcairielno money right now anyway
11:30.01Matrix110then wait for the new faster and cheaper CPUs!
11:30.03nevcairielin july again i guess
11:30.04nevcairiel:)
11:30.34Ominousrofl just been reading the newest pages on the ktm argument
11:30.34wobin_Matrix110: I don't really know
11:30.53Dustwhisperc2d is dropping by 25-50%
11:30.55Dustwhisperin the next month
11:30.57wobin_Matrix110: And yeah, I can wait... and wait...
11:30.59wobin_and wait...
11:31.03nevcairielyou wouldnt happen to have a link to some information about the new c2ds ? :p
11:31.16Matrix110as you are german: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml?url=/newsticker/meldung/91197&words=Intel&T=Intel :P
11:31.39mitch0ominous: where?
11:31.50Ominouscurse-gaming
11:31.55Ominoushttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/?cpage=1
11:32.00nevcairieloh nice
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11:32.11wobin_It seems to have stopped at Starianna
11:32.15wobin_thank god =P
11:32.34nevcairielthat sounds good :)
11:32.38nevcairielnew fsb :)
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11:34.03nevcairieli hope RAM stays that cheap for a while
11:34.52Matrix110its already more expensive than ~3weeks ago
11:35.08nevcairieli know
11:35.14nevcairieli missed that time for buying :P
11:35.30nevcairieli still run ddr1 in my box, so i would need complete new
11:35.34nevcairielat least 2gb, maybe even 4
11:36.25wobin_although, for a 22" monitor it seems a good price, the CMV, $410
11:36.34wobin_instead of 1.5k for a Samsung
11:36.43Matrix110wobin_ that doesnt mean its good:P
11:36.49wobin_true that
11:36.57Matrix110its prolly bullshit or you are lucky and its a rebranded Brand X model
11:36.59trhOminous: it's pointless to discuss with him, he's ignoring every single number we showed him, he's ignoring every try to explain why his 1.000.000 runs of a frameonevent in a row don't account for any real cpu usage (caches!)
11:37.00nevcairieli had a 22" for that money, and it sucked hard
11:37.04nevcairieli returned it instantly :p
11:37.08wobin_interestingly enough the price difference between the 22 and 24" Samsung is $15
11:37.19Dustwhisperexcuse my complete lack of knowledge, but how do you create a /comand option that takes arguments and passes it to a function that takes 1 argument?
11:37.27Ominoustrh: i know but its still helarous
11:37.29trhwobin_: get a samsung
11:37.29Ominoussp?
11:37.37Matrix110Samsung SyncMaster 226BW or Samsung SyncMaster 245B :P
11:37.40trhwobin_: samsung tft's are very very nice :)
11:37.49trhwobin_: two times a 226bw :)
11:37.57Dustwhisperboth are great monitors
11:38.03Dustwhisperi've been thinking about both myself
11:38.03Matrix1101st= ~250euro 2nd=550euro
11:38.05wobin_Expensive though =(
11:38.09Dustwhispertired of my 21 inch CRTs
11:38.11Dustwhisperthat weigh a tonne
11:38.16wobin_Oh totally
11:38.22trhwobin_: ya, but 2 tfts are godly to work with
11:38.32Dustwhispernot that good to game on
11:38.33Dustwhispertbh
11:38.37trhwobin_: it feels a bit strange at the beginning, but after a while you can't live without it
11:38.38Dustwhisperi still catch ghosting on topend LCDs
11:38.39wobin_I have an old hpL1925
11:38.50Dustwhisperbut i'd love 2xWidescreen LCD
11:38.59trhwobin_: you need to times the same sice, otherwise it's strange
11:39.01wobin_I don't have the deskspace for two widescreens =)
11:39.11Matrix110Then get a 24" :P
11:39.21wobin_trh:  not really, I'm working off a laptop and monitor atm
11:39.51trhwobin_: well... strange in a way that it needs alot more to get comfortable with it
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11:40.15DustwhisperHey guys, how do I correctly setup a /command to take arguments and pass that to a function that takes 1 argument? Yes i am uselesss >_<
11:40.21Dustwhispertrying that ace option thingymajingy
11:40.25wobin_well tbh, even with a crappy monitor, it'll still be ten times better than what I'm using =)
11:40.33trhwobin_: but it's so good to have your game at the left side, on the right side irc, notepad++ for lua code and so on :)
11:40.39wobin_I agree
11:41.07wobin_I'm getting 10fps on a small windowed run atm =(
11:41.12wobin_and it's making me a sad panda
11:41.23trhthere were test mades, where the productivity of developer were raised by 30%, just by giving them 2 screens :)
11:41.24wobin_It used to be much better than that
11:43.14Ominouswhat does vsync actually do?
11:44.04CartasMake your framerate sync with your refresh rate, I think.
11:44.04trhOminous: only copies from backbuffer to frontbuffer if a frame was ended
11:44.12CartasBasically make everything slow :o
11:44.17CartasNo idea why anyone would ever use it!
11:44.49Matrix110because sometimes the Visual quality improves on LCD
11:44.55Firiknot having vsync on can cause artifacts
11:45.00wobin_http://www.myshopping.com.au/SP--120667_ChiMei_CMV_221D_22_LCD_Monitor
11:45.04CartasI've never noticed much, to be honest.
11:45.14Matrix110as i said sometimes:P
11:45.18CartasThe increase in performance far outweighs the tiny quality you gain :p
11:45.33Firikyour sceen will refresh while only half of the screen is rerendered, so you get a line somewhere on your screen
11:45.37Matrix110wobin this LCD is pretty expensive Oo
11:45.37nevcairielvsync shouldnt really have any impact on your performance
11:45.48CartasBut it does.
11:45.52wobin_Matrix110: ??
11:46.00wobin_Matrix110: It's damn cheap =)
11:46.01nevcairielit will limit your max fps to your monitors refresh rate
11:46.02Matrix110well nevcairiel it has:P if you have 60Hz you wont have more than 60fps some ppl want 100
11:46.03nevcairielnot more.
11:46.04Ominousnevcairiel, you forget, im on a laptop which is only just over min specs
11:46.04wobin_AUD, mind you
11:46.16Matrix110how much AUD= $$
11:46.21wobin_USD?
11:46.27Matrix110ye
11:46.27nevcairielMatrix110: whats the point of more fps then refresh rate? wasted cpu time :(
11:46.36wobin_1 Australian dollar = 0.8374 U.S. dollars
11:46.37CIA-2203jayhawk * r40370 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc PetInfoFu-readme.txt PetInfoFu.lua):
11:46.37CIA-22FuBar_PetInfoFu:
11:46.37CIA-22- update for stack overflow bug
11:46.41Firikhumans can't (or hardly can) even see the difference between 60 or 100 fps
11:46.43Matrix110nevcairiel i just mean it there are ppl that want 300fps in CS
11:46.48trhwobin_: if you want to get away cheap, get a graphic card with 2x dvi outputs and 2x 4:3 20" tfts
11:46.50Matrix110idc about it:P
11:46.56CartasI can notice a difference between the FPS', at least...
11:46.58trhwobin_: good 20" tfts
11:47.03nevcairielif your screen cant even display the 300fps, there is no damn point at all
11:47.05wobin_trh: That's what I was intending I guess
11:47.37Ominousnevcairiel, without vsync my fps is still below refresh rate
11:47.38wobin_But I already have a 20"...
11:47.49wobin_hm
11:47.51nevcairielOminous: and with it should be exactly the same :)
11:47.52wobin_actually it's not =P
11:47.57trhwobin_: get only one 20" first and see if it is fine
11:48.05trhwobin_: if not get a second one of the same model #
11:48.11wobin_hehe
11:48.28trhwobin_: fine = works good together with your old one ;)
11:48.41wobin_The 20" 204B looks like a good price
11:48.44wobin_Samsung
11:48.46Cartasnevcairiel: Doesn't VSYNC set the FPS to specific amounts? :o
11:48.53trhya.. i got a 901B (19")
11:49.02CartasLike... if you can't get an FPS = to your refresh rate, (i.e. 60), it sets it to 30?
11:49.14nevcairieldont think it does that
11:49.24CartasHm, must've just been that game then...
11:49.29Punkie`it does do that
11:49.35trhCartas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_synchronization
11:49.41Punkie`well i think it sets your max fps to your refresh rate
11:49.42nevcairieli have vsync on, and my fps still jumps between 30 and 50
11:49.52nevcairielit limits your fps to your refresh rate, yeah
11:50.02CartasOf course, it jumps. But it tries to fix it moreso to 30...!
11:50.03nevcairielbut thats all fps you need anyway, you cant see more :P
11:50.05Ominousif i join a raid up to attuman, then raid carries on with more bosses, then i lead raid tomorrow will i need to kill moros if he was killed today
11:50.10CartasI can see more.
11:50.18nevcairielyou cannot.
11:50.20CartasI can tell the difference between 300 and 60 FPS, honestly...
11:50.35nevcairielyour display cannot display it, how should you be able to see it?
11:50.56CartasHm...
11:50.59trhCartas: if you got a tft, you're full of shit :P
11:51.01CartasWell, things move faster on-screen and such.
11:51.14GagorianOminous: Umm. Well, if you're saved to an instance with Moroes killed then, of course, he will remain killed
11:51.33nevcairielif you have 300 fps on a 60 hz refresh rate, you will see every 5th frame rendered
11:51.40mitch0there's a nil ref in Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.modulePrototype:ClearThreat() (line 712)
11:51.40wobin_trh: woo, they're selling the 931B  Samsung for $335
11:51.43CartasSo you see things moving quicker?
11:51.53nevcairielno not really
11:52.01nevcairielwith 60 fps, you would basicly see the same frames
11:52.02mitch0happens if I have something targeted and summon my WaterElemental
11:52.05trhwobin_: we got those in our computer pools at the university :)
11:52.09trhwobin_: they are nice too
11:52.14nevcairielonly that it doesnt render the intermediate frames
11:52.18CartasYes? :o Say I'm moving my mouse. If you see every 5th frame, the distance between the two frames you see of the mouse position is greater?
11:52.41nevcairielbut the time between frames decreases as well
11:52.49nevcairielyou move your mouse at a fixed speed
11:52.50CartasAh, okay.
11:52.51wobin_omg
11:52.54wobin_They're in Crows Nest
11:53.00wobin_I can bloody walk to this place =P
11:53.08nevcairielhehe
11:53.17CartasMy CRT goes upto 120Hz.
11:53.28nevcairieli always try to tune my gfx settings to hit my refresh rate
11:53.28trhwobin_: at our shop in town the 940NW is 183euro =)
11:53.28wobin_My CRT goes up to 11
11:53.28CartasI'll never use VSYNC... it just... I don't know... makes things slower!
11:53.35nevcairieland turn on AA/AS to stay on that
11:53.40CartasI dislike AA :(
11:53.47CartasPop-ups and tooltips ruin everything.
11:53.50CartasGoes all choppy and such.
11:54.04trhwobin_: (291 aus dollar)
11:54.35CartasBeen trying to find some way of changing how tooltips are rendered in XP so it won't have that effect on games with AA... but, no luck so far!
11:54.48CartasKnow any ways to fix that, nevcairiel? :o
11:55.05mitch0uhm, why is the threat-1.0 errors thread locked?
11:55.08nevcairielyou get alot of tooltips while playing?
11:55.24CartasWell, on WoW, for example, I have windowed and maximized.
11:55.44CartasSo, yes.
11:56.11CartasMostly from MSN...
11:56.18nevcairielheh
11:56.30nevcairielthats why i turn msn off when i plan to raid =P
11:56.33CartasNo idea why it even makes AA go all choppy... :S
11:56.34Cartaslol
11:56.48CartasWell, I try and get every game I have into windowed mode, so I can still use it.
11:57.21CartasWhat GPU do you use, nevcairiel?
11:57.34nevcairieli am on a nv 7900gtx right now
11:57.46CartasYou get MSN pop-ups while WoWing?
11:57.49Cartas(Assuming you play WoW)
11:58.05nevcairieli play window maximized too, so yeah they sneak in sometimes
11:58.25nevcairielbut i didnt notice any choppyness
11:58.27CartasI think NVidia has it differently to ATi. Just the bottom-part of your screen changes to a past-moment?
11:58.41nevcairielyea
11:58.43nevcairielwhere the tooltip is
11:58.46nevcairielbut not alway
11:58.47nevcairiels
11:58.49CartasWith ATi, everything goes extremely choppy and I go to 1FPS or so.
11:58.49nevcairielonly sometimes
11:58.53nevcairielheh
11:59.27CartasIf I could get tooltips and MSN pop-ups to be rendered using AA, then I'm sure the problem would be solved!
11:59.33CartasJust have to find a way... hmm...
11:59.35wobin_I wonder if this will work
11:59.36wobin_http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?om=1&ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104096317732888699817.00000113398a6efbe5e66
11:59.43wobin_That's me to that computer shop =P
12:00.10CartasHm...
12:00.17CartasI don't like that 'short trip' business, Wobin_.
12:00.19CartasYou be careful.
12:00.26wobin_hehe
12:00.31wobin_There could be stabbing hobos
12:00.44wobin_I'd still get it delivered
12:00.54CartasWhat do you mean? Me -> short trip -> stab hobo -> short trip -> T1?
12:01.02wobin_Cause lugging a cpu and monitor around is irritating
12:01.03trh"sacrifice the body, protect the tft!" ;)
12:01.17wobin_well more "avoid stabbing hobo"
12:01.22CartasAh, okay, lol.
12:01.27CartasAnti-stabbing is a good way to avoid, no?
12:01.28wobin_"talk to singing hobo instead"
12:02.41wobin_hm, would I get better fps if I was in windowed mode, or normal mode?
12:03.02CartasIf you have a horrible theme with transparency or some other crap then, maybe it's slower :P
12:03.37CartasI've no idea though, I think full-screen is faster generally.
12:03.45CartasAlthough I can't tell a difference on mine, to be honest.
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12:07.40CIA-2203celellach * r40371 10AtlasLoot/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
12:07.40CIA-22AtlasLoot:
12:07.41CIA-22- Divided the non step epics into Back/Cloth, Leather, Mail and Plate
12:08.55Leialynis there a bluepost about that blizzard "bug" with some custom unitframes crashing in raids? Or whats that PitBull warning with patch 2.1.2 about?
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12:16.02wobin_Interestingly enough...
12:16.12wobin_I appear to lose my settings when restarting =P
12:16.15wobin_with the nvidia driver
12:17.10trhomg, there are people who actually etch a sketch nice pictures http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYM__s3R5q0
12:18.52wobin_scary
12:18.54wobin_very very scary
12:19.12kenlyricI like ms Paint mona lisa
12:20.58wobin_yeah so do I =)
12:21.03wobin_But this takes skill
12:21.37CartasI made a ship on an Etch-a-Sketch once...
12:25.00kebinusanI always found this neat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPYd48r0VfU
12:28.43nevcairielthats amazing
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12:32.58wobin_hehe
12:33.00wobin_creepy
12:33.03ravagernlckknight, please change pitbull's background inset from 5 to 4, there is a 1px gap visible on .8 UI scale, or let us be able to change the background inset in global options :P
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12:34.25Wobinoh man Lope, you're on AD =)
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12:35.55phyberhmm
12:36.15phyberwhat's with PitBulls warning about crashing.  no fancy 'if version then something else something_else end' ? :o
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12:37.20phyberalso, how do you get the "Health Text" abck after you press disabled?
12:37.34phybersince the text isn't showing and that's why I upgraded :/
12:37.44Wobinswitch to abf?
12:38.41phyberI am on ABF.
12:42.28WobinCan't help otherwise, I'm afraid
12:44.39trhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbBNqNaZVc8 <- lol, lion king recut trailer to make it look like a horror movie :)
12:48.21moonsorrowwhat happened with the cast bar in pitbull when the portrait is enabled? how can I set the width of the cast bar to the total width of the frame again?
12:49.40QuantumDeltaJesus christ.
12:49.46QuantumDeltaNice work on pitbull ckknight
12:49.55CIA-2203iceroth * r40372 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua: IceHUD: Added an event handler for target name change
12:49.55QuantumDelta<- info freak xP
12:51.02Icerothhmm, wth has happened to all my screenshots
12:51.28Iceroththey are like, not there
12:52.13Icerotholdest is 23th may
13:00.36kenlyricbutbutbutbutbut I don't wanna go to Uldaman.
13:06.14KemayoI hate having to go to ulda for enchanting.  It's such a pain.
13:06.39trhat 70 you can run there without even having to kill a mob ;)
13:06.43kenlyricwhy do enchanters have to suffer so? everyone else gets a master trainer in outlands that can do everything.
13:06.59kenlyricexcept the last room of scropids.
13:07.04kenlyricscorpids
13:07.45trhkenlyric: still not a wild thing? =)
13:07.45kenlyric?
13:07.45phyberkenlyric: the guy at Honor Hold is missing some enchants?
13:07.56kenlyricthe guy at honor hold doesn't do anything before master enchanting.
13:08.01phyberah
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13:08.17kenlyricunlike the tailoring trainer, who does everything.
13:09.39kenlyricI got no problem with the mobs in uldaman... just those damn scorpids. no aoe = suck
13:10.20nevcairielkenlyric: be scryer, there is a enchanting trainer for everythign :P
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13:13.49wnd-setrahey
13:13.55wnd-setraanyone mind helping me debug my ace?
13:15.26Wobinkenlyric: why can't you go to Shatt?
13:15.46wnd-setra?
13:15.49wnd-setranope
13:16.01kenlyricthe only one in shatt is on scryer tier.
13:16.05Wobinso?
13:16.16WobinYou can go up there if you haven't chosen a side yet
13:16.35kenlyricand?
13:16.43WobinI guess you're aldor? =P
13:16.52kenlyricif I hadn't chosen a side yet, I would be up  there :)
13:16.56Wobinsilly man
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13:19.15kenlyricscorpids were definitely a lot easier than they were at 60.
13:19.39sedatedChipmunkpft, real men are 0/1000 with both reps
13:19.56hyperChipmunkoh wait
13:20.06hyperChipmunkor maybe just engineering hunters
13:20.11Nickenyfikenckknight: PitBull-r40367\PitBull.lua:166: attempt to index local 'parent' (a nil value)
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13:27.08trhhyperChipmunk: still bad because you don't get either enchant =)
13:27.46hyperChipmunkenchant?
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13:28.57CIA-2203helium * r40373 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
13:28.57CIA-22Babble-2.2:
13:28.57CIA-22- zhTW, updated Boss
13:29.06hyperChipmunkpsh; one shoulder enchant isn't enough incentive to render half the city kos
13:30.10kenlyricconsidering that's the only benefit of being able to go to both places, I think it is.
13:30.33CIA-2203helium * r40374 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: updated zhTW localization
13:30.57kenlyricand, it's the only shoulder enchant unless you want to keep running ZG :)
13:31.06kenlyric(or naxx)
13:34.08nevcairieland they dont kos
13:34.13nevcairielthey just port you away :P
13:34.49nomenquislol, tell that to my level 20 bloodelf alt who happened to run up to the aldors tier ^^
13:35.37nomenquiswasn't all too pretty what they did to him :)
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13:38.05|Casey|hi
13:41.05|Casey|i have a question about tattle. how do i update my realmpool myself?
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13:41.14hyperChipmunkAnd now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
13:41.25hyperChipmunkAnd now the air is shattered by the force of Casey's blow.
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13:43.11hyperChipmunk|Casey|: download the lua interpreter and the luasocket lib; uncomment line 5 of dataminer.lua and fill in your battlegroup name; change max_num_teams on line 8 if you want; run dataminer.lua with the lua interpreter
13:43.29|Casey|thx
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13:48.49|Casey|how do i say the lua interpreter where to find the library?
13:49.05KemayoA single # in a toc is a comment, right?
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13:49.55nevcairielnomenquis: a lvl 20 alt shouldnt really peek into there anyway :P
13:50.24hyperChipmunklua interpreter is at http://lua.org
13:50.37hyperChipmunkluasocket is at http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~diego/professional/luasocket/
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13:51.58|Casey|yeah found both. but now i have a lib and a lua subdir in the folder where the lua binarys are
13:52.35[Liquidor]http://i15.tinypic.com/663ljsi.jpg
13:52.45hyperChipmunkyou can stick the lib and the executable in the tattle dir and you should be fine
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13:56.24|Casey|lua error :(
13:56.46|Casey|lua5.1: ...d of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Tattle\lua\socket.lua:13: module 'sock
13:56.47|Casey|et.core' not found:
13:56.47|Casey|<PROTECTED>
13:56.47|Casey|<PROTECTED>
13:57.42hyperChipmunkcould someone that's done this with windows help this guy? i'm just takin' shots in the dark here =P
13:57.51CIA-2203mitchell * r40375 10SpellCaster/: SpellCaster: discontinued
13:57.56|Casey|hehe
13:58.27|Casey|there is no core.lua at all. just a core.dll in /lib/socket/
13:58.30hyperChipmunkno joy in mudville >8P
13:58.47hyperChipmunkI'd just stuff 'em all right in Tattle-1.0
13:58.53hyperChipmunk>8P
13:59.40|Casey|are they
14:00.02|Casey|ok the dirs + lua bins
14:00.10hyperChipmunklooks like you have them in subdir lua
14:01.45|Casey|problem is the core.lua it requires isn't in the package.
14:02.06hyperChipmunki'd think the core.dll would be sufficient
14:02.27hyperChipmunkit's not looking for a file; it's looking for a module
14:02.40|Casey|got it
14:02.48hyperChipmunk>8D
14:03.02|Casey|just ignored the lua and lib sub dir and moved the files direct in the tattle folder
14:03.04hyperChipmunkMighty |Casey|
14:03.07hyperChipmunkyea
14:04.01|Casey|know i must only get him updating the right realmpool
14:04.12KemayohyperChipmunk: : BulkMail2\BulkMailFu.lua:27: attempt to index field 'inbox' (a nil value)
14:04.27hyperChipmunkthat's line 5 of dataminer.lua
14:04.30hyperChipmunkKemayo: on it
14:04.37|Casey|he ignored it ^^
14:04.48hyperChipmunkuncomment it
14:04.54hyperChipmunkdelete the -- at the start
14:05.09|Casey|i did
14:05.14|Casey|i am not dumb ;)
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14:05.30hyperChipmunkjust being thorough; I don't know your lua experience
14:05.45|Casey|ok lua not much but other languages
14:05.52hyperChipmunk/nod
14:06.11hyperChipmunkwhat's the output look like?
14:06.16|Casey|localized Realmpoolnames maybe?
14:06.29|Casey|he is updating Reckoning(US)
14:06.38|Casey|updateonly = "http://armory.wow-europe.com/Blutdurst" i have
14:06.58hyperChipmunkyea
14:07.03hyperChipmunkthat's probably Bloodlust?
14:07.12|Casey|no its different
14:07.16hyperChipmunkhm
14:07.19|Casey|fixed it somehow now
14:07.22hyperChipmunkneither URL exist
14:07.27|Casey|maybe forgot to save ;)
14:07.39|Casey|works now
14:07.40hyperChipmunk>8p
14:07.58hyperChipmunknot dumb, indeed
14:08.01|Casey|poor armory. should me centrilized somehow
14:08.01DustwhisperSo, how do you in aceoptions (for registerchatcommand) add an option that can take arguments? Like /mymod Option this is a string i want added and have "this is a string i want added" forwarded to a specific function that takes 1 parameter as string ?
14:08.08CIA-2203athou * r40376 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua:
14:08.08CIA-22CraftList2:
14:08.08CIA-22- potential bugfix for sorting by item rarity
14:08.25hyperChipmunkDustwhisper: that'd be a text command
14:08.44hyperChipmunkhttp://wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#text
14:09.11KemayoWobin: wowace.py svn now comments out missing embeds in the TOC, for initial load-time decreasing.
14:09.12|Casey|thx hyperChipmunk
14:09.23hyperChipmunkcertainly >8)
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14:12.47Mech0zckknight where do you have the stable version of pitbull?
14:12.48Dustwhisperhmm hyperChipmunk but how do you set the set/get properties to a predefined function?
14:12.58Mech0znow that you advise to use 39xxx until 2.1.2
14:13.01Dustwhisperonly examples i find is by doing set = function() ... end
14:13.27Dustwhisperdont even want a getter for it tbh
14:14.02CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40377 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailFu.lua:
14:14.02CIA-22BulkMail2Inbox:
14:14.02CIA-22- BulkMailFu: fixed error if only one of the two BulkMail addons are present
14:14.23Dustwhisperguess i can just chain them
14:14.38CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40378 10BulkMail2/BulkMailFu.lua:
14:14.38CIA-22BulkMail2:
14:14.38CIA-22- BulkMailFu: fixed error if only one of the two BulkMail addons are present
14:15.07hyperChipmunkset = "MyFunction"
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14:15.47hyperChipmunkand you can do get = false
14:16.45Dustwhisperoh
14:17.01Dustwhisperso set = "Funcname" will automaticly handing passing all arguments to that function aswell
14:17.25nevcairielyea
14:17.54Dustwhispergetting used to this lua thingy ain't the easiest in the world
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14:18.29WobinKemayo: interstign
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14:19.19vhaarrDustwhisper: This isn't Lua, it's Ace2 :)
14:19.22zanthorgud morgin folks
14:19.54Dustwhisperwell
14:20.03Dustwhispersyntax wise
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14:25.22hyperChipmunkluckily, lua syntax is very forgiving
14:25.48|Casey|hyperChipmunk you are not a developer of tattle right?
14:26.17hyperChipmunknope
14:27.04|Casey|a centralized database would be a nice idee. maybe i build something like that if i find the time to
14:27.51|Casey|15min for just the update of one realmpool is a long time
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14:28.13hyperChipmunkwell, it does update them all every week
14:28.17|Casey|a complete database about all chars would be nice ^^
14:28.39hyperChipmunkbut it only does top 300 of each group for each realm
14:28.39|Casey|the talents can change more often ;)
14:29.00CIA-2203evilelvis * r40379 10eePanels/ (core.lua localization.deDE.lua): eePanels: localization tweak, indentation change
14:29.12|Casey|ah ok nice to know
14:29.27hyperChipmunkwell, if you got a box that isn't doing anything, then you can do it more often and commit it to the svn
14:30.28|Casey|exactly what i have got
14:30.28CIA-2203gamefaq * r40380 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-deDE.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: deDE Update
14:30.50|Casey|but i didn't tought about the svn. a daily commit? thems as spam to me ^^
14:33.33hyperChipmunkyou're worried about spam on a svn repo that's currently on revision 40380
14:33.36hyperChipmunkO_o
14:33.39nevcairielheh
14:33.49hyperChipmunkafter only a year in use
14:33.54mikmaI don't know what you guys whine! KLHThreatMeter increases my FPS! look here: http://wow.reaktio.net/ok1.jpg -> http://wow.reaktio.net/ok2.jpg
14:34.19[dRaCo]lol
14:35.32liquiemand if you switch off your monitor, you'll get a massiv fps boost, seriously
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14:35.42hyperChipmunkhee
14:36.15hyperChipmunkmonitor off + vsync = ???
14:36.23hyperChipmunkthe mind boggles!
14:36.59zanthorxis there any way to reclaim my nick Zanthor?  I'm registered, but I crashed and now it wont let me back in
14:37.16nevcairiel./ns ghost nick password
14:37.21nevcairielwithout the .
14:37.22nevcairiel:)
14:37.25hyperChipmunk/msg nickserv ghost
14:37.28nevcairielor with the . and we can have fun
14:37.33hyperChipmunklol
14:38.00zanthordanke
14:38.08hyperChipmunk./msg nickserv hyperChipmunk nevsuxdix
14:38.14nevcairiellol
14:38.15Chompersout of 10 arena games, we've won 1
14:38.23nevcairielwonder how many people actually tried that now
14:38.24Chomperscya 1700 rating :/
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14:43.58|Casey|with whom i need to talk about an svn account?
14:44.35zanthorI'm just gonna guess, but I'd think thats on the wowace site probably under the area that talks about guidelines for developers
14:44.52|Casey|hm could be ^^
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14:45.37hyperChipmunk|Casey|: Kaelten
14:45.42dodgizzla~ktmflamethread
14:45.49dodgizzlano? damn, somebody should add that
14:45.51KarlThePaganthere is a rules page |Casey| - that's the proper route rather than irc ;)
14:45.54hyperChipmunklol
14:46.00KarlThePaganread & sign it
14:46.33KarlThePaganI recommend start by checking into branches
14:46.41KarlThePaganif you're committing a new project
14:47.44Wobinwtb shammy group recall at level 70
14:48.37GandharvaAdirelle: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6768.msg111904#msg111904
14:48.52AdirelleGandharva: was looking at it
14:49.33AdirelleI'll add some debugging stuff, and maybe a limited UI to see what's hapenning
14:49.48Adirellewhich revision did you used ?
14:49.58Gandharvaok, I'm in TK atm and will test it
14:50.33Gandharva40290
14:50.46Adirelleare you using KTM too ?
14:51.31Gandharvano
14:51.48Gandharvaonle threat 1.0 / violation / omen
14:51.52Gandharva*only
14:52.10Silviu-Adirelle i tested yesterday too with a priest he was using ktm me onem + threat not sending anything
14:52.22Gandharvadebug says "no ktm users found"
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14:57.56hyperChipmunkcomplete vulnerability ftl D8<
14:58.01kenlyricman, pyroblast is nasty as an opening spell, but oh so slow.
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15:00.33NelsonMhow often does the WoW client corrupt the .lua savedvariables files?
15:00.41NelsonMmine replaced all my .lua with NUL characters when my computer crashed last night
15:00.53NelsonMpretty astonishing failure mode
15:01.11hyperChipmunkouch
15:01.14hyperChipmunknever seen that
15:01.15KarlThePaganNelsonM, mine sorta did that when i ran the game as administrator
15:01.25NelsonMyou can run the game as something other than administrator? :-)
15:01.28hyperChipmunkgood think you back those up on a regular basis
15:01.32KarlThePaganin vista.. yea
15:01.36hyperChipmunks/think/thing/
15:01.55KarlThePaganand on windows XP I would recommend running as power user not admin
15:01.57NelsonMit's pretty funny, i have 5 megabyte files that are 5 megabytes of 0x00. that's a pretty weird way to corrupt a file, I wonder if they're mmap()ing it to save or something
15:02.00KarlThePaganuntil you get an updat
15:02.11NelsonMoh yes, I regularly back up and rotate all my computer game files
15:02.22NelsonMin fact, I've hired a sysadmin to administrate my computer, just for WoW
15:02.26kenlyricI had a bad USB flash drive corrupt my SVs once. It was very odd.
15:02.30KarlThePaganhehe
15:02.46NelsonMthis got corrupted when my computer bluescreened as WoW was exiting. second time in a year, actually.
15:02.54NelsonManyway, am I the only one? or is this common?
15:03.00hyperChipmunkback those up to tapes, yo
15:03.14hyperChipmunkhasn't ever happened to me
15:03.16NelsonMbut don't copy that floppy, dog
15:03.17KarlThePaganno, that makes sense NelsonM ... but what are in the .bak files in your WTF folder did those help?
15:03.31KarlThePaganNelsonM, and in all honesty the windows "Briefcase" feature is good for backup of saved variables - but I haven't done it in a while...
15:03.32NelsonMthe .bak files are all a month old, which seems odd. when does WoW write the .baks?
15:03.34KarlThePaganperhaps I should
15:03.51KarlThePaganprobably after a patch
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15:04.58Mikki save my savedvars to a local SVN repo :>
15:05.03KarlThePaganhaha
15:05.21KarlThePaganthat's hardcore
15:06.01NelsonMreally the whole filesystem should be versioned. but you know, this is 2007, can't do futuristic ideas from 1995
15:06.46hyperChipmunkspeak for yerself
15:06.47NelsonMeven WinFS doesn't support versioning, does it?
15:06.55KarlThePaganthat's longhorn
15:06.58KarlThePaganIIRC
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15:07.11Mikkaka windows vista
15:07.14Mikkand it was left out
15:07.21KarlThePaganhuh, well I haven't noticed ;)
15:07.24KarlThePaganoic
15:07.26KarlThePaganhaha
15:07.34NelsonMI use rsnapshot on my linux boxes, which is generally good enough for this. I assume it's nearly impossible in WinXP, but I'm surprised Vista didn't add it. It's a fashionable filesystem idea.
15:07.41Mikkthey're apparently contemplating releasing winfs as a separate package for vista
15:07.44NelsonMI think I read that Apple is doing it
15:08.03KarlThePaganNelsonM, seriously try the briefcase method... or local svn repos ;)
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15:08.28NelsonMor right click "add to zip", yeah. ugh.
15:08.41KarlThePaganyea
15:09.02KarlThePaganI think of all the interfaces there I would say svn > briefcase > zip
15:09.05NelsonMstill confused how 20 megabytes of files could be replaced by 0x00. that must be a bad interaction wtih the OS, like a mmap
15:09.09Brunersanyone found a way to fix the missing realm problem ?
15:09.17KarlThePaganwith svn and briefcase it'll be easy to detect individual file changes
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15:09.37MikkNelsonM: indeedly
15:09.49Brunersprobably only a EU problem
15:09.54KarlThePaganNelsonM, or it could have still been in the controller and hd buffers
15:10.08CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40381 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua:
15:10.08CIA-22BulkMail2:
15:10.08CIA-22- add \255s to the end of subject lines for uniqueness to further differentiate them; BM2I will use a combination of TTL and subject to determine uniqueness
15:11.05Laricap-pom-pyro is a nice opener :P
15:11.21NelsonMpostal lis really buggy, is someone maintaining it? I love it in general
15:11.37Laricbut it seems that I nuke over anything on omen when I do :(
15:13.52KarlThePaganNelsonM, it's in development
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15:14.03KarlThePaganif you want stability use the version you see on wowi
15:14.13NelsonMwhere's the fun in that?
15:15.02KarlThePaganheh... well I've trolled enough - off to do my daily quests
15:15.12NelsonMisn't sunday a day off?
15:15.47KarlThePagannot for me, notice the nick?
15:15.48KarlThePagan;)
15:16.11NelsonMthe Arrakoa are a godly people though. Hmm.
15:16.35Dustwhisperanyway a mod can control which chatframe shows?
15:16.46Dustwhisperand/or enumerate them all
15:17.40GandharvaAdirelle: any news? :)
15:17.56AdirelleGandharva: working on it
15:18.07AdirelleI'm adding a few GUI to easy checking
15:18.14Adirelles/easy/ease/
15:18.32Adirelle(mainly a fubar plugin with an informative tooltip)
15:19.22smoke_anyone know where elemntal flux might save stuff to other than the WTF folder?
15:19.54smoke_i used alt+click to resize it but it broke it somehow the display, so i deleted all the savedvariable files in the wtf folder but the settings wont reset..
15:20.23Gandharvapurl: hehe
15:20.23purlextra, extra, read all about it, hehe is eheh
15:20.27CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40382 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua:
15:20.27CIA-22BulkMail2Inbox:
15:20.27CIA-22- use daysLeft..subject as unique identifier for mails when using Take Selected
15:21.07Gandharva<---- void reaver - first attempt
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15:27.16KarlThePagandoes anyone know of an aceevent based apexis puzzle mod? perhaps ... a bigwigs module lol
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15:28.54Matrix110Apexis Puzzle?
15:28.57Matrix110you mean the Relic
15:28.58Matrix110?
15:29.05KarlThePaganyea
15:29.06Matrix110Just write it down in chat:P
15:29.10Matrix110r g b y
15:29.19Matrix110easily doable then
15:29.34KarlThePaganyea about that... um apparently you don't get horrible lag spikes that make 3 of them fire simultaneously
15:29.38FISKER_Qyeah
15:29.42FISKER_Qpretty annoying
15:29.45KarlThePaganwrite that down
15:29.48kebinusanyeah I do that in teh edit box
15:30.01[dRaCo]I heard some rumors about a mod called orgilazy
15:30.01kebinusanjust bring up the edit box and do rbgybbwhatever
15:30.04KarlThePagani can solve the puzzle just fine... i got 10 at the same time
15:30.09[dRaCo]dunno if its on the svn
15:30.13KarlThePagan~smite kebinusan
15:30.14purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves kebinusan from crown to sole.
15:30.23FISKER_QOgri'lazy is just 4 buttons
15:30.25KarlThePagan~whalecrit Matrix110
15:30.26purlACTION crits Matrix110 with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Matrix110 dies
15:30.30Ominoushmm is dev.wowace.com down
15:30.34kebinusan~whaleparry KarlThePagan
15:30.34purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry KarlThePagan's attacks.
15:30.36Matrix110KarlThePagan then its quite hard to do it atall
15:30.39FISKER_Qkinda like if you pressed 1,2,3,4 responding to each different color
15:30.48Matrix110i dont think that you can detect it
15:30.50KarlThePaganMatrix110, but a mod would tell me which event occurred first :P
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15:31.42KarlThePaganFISKER_Q, does ogrilazy use events or does it require user input?
15:31.46FISKER_Quser input
15:31.52KarlThePaganwell i'm fucked
15:31.53KarlThePaganyay lag
15:31.59FISKER_Qyou press the colors corresponding to the onces being made
15:32.01FISKER_Qindeed
15:32.11Matrix110get a better inet connection:P
15:32.23Punkie`is there someway I can find out if an addon is loaded ?
15:32.27[dRaCo]KarlThePagan: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7167
15:32.30[dRaCo]try that one
15:32.40Ominouspukie, AddonLoaded(name)? i think
15:32.41[dRaCo]dunno how/if it works
15:32.52Punkie`ok cool will try it ominous
15:32.57Ominousill check
15:33.10OminousIsAddOnLoaded(index or "AddOnName")
15:33.18Punkie`ah niceone thanks
15:34.08kebinusantake it apart and look at it :-)
15:34.40hyperChipmunklol you have to do it manually
15:34.48hyperChipmunkyou think they'd make it detectable?
15:35.08zanthoris there some form of artificial framerate throttle in wow?
15:35.19Ominouszanzor no
15:35.22nevcairielyeah its called ktm
15:35.25Ominouszanthor, no*
15:35.42zanthorI've got a guy with a really obscene system (dual 8800sli, dual quad core cpu) and he sticks solid @ 60fps
15:35.49[dRaCo]vsync
15:35.53nevcairielzanthor: vsync
15:35.54hyperChipmunkturn off vsync
15:36.40FtH|Daemonaany BigWigs coder here?
15:36.40FISKER_Qoh S-NAP nevcairiel
15:36.56zanthorfrom 60 to 136...
15:36.58zanthorthanks
15:36.59nevcairielwhat now FISKER_Q?
15:37.09zanthorin shatrah
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15:37.16nevcairielzanthor: not that it matters, but he wont really have any advantage from the extra fps :)
15:37.38zanthore-peen
15:37.44[dRaCo]yeah
15:37.48[dRaCo]fps are important.
15:38.03[dRaCo]double your fps, double your size.
15:38.09zanthorfps < 30 are important
15:38.14nevcairieltrue
15:38.16zanthor> 30 are just overkill
15:38.19CIA-2203nimbal * r40383 10Buffalo2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
15:38.19CIA-22Buffalo2:
15:38.20CIA-22- Fixed icons not agreeing with tooltips and timers
15:38.20CIA-22- Fixed ghost coloring
15:38.20CIA-22- buff.timeLeft and buff.duration are now available not only for target debuffs, but also for buffs and debuffs, not limited to target (buffs / debuffs you can cast, of course)
15:38.20nevcairielbut fps > refresh rate are not
15:38.21CIA-22- Added maxIcons to template options. There will never be more icons displayed than this number.
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15:41.18vhaarrFtH|Daemona: me
15:43.50Punkie`hey guys, if I use unpack(randomdatabasething) is there any way to get it to list all the values?
15:43.57Punkie`at the moment it only lists the first value
15:44.11XuerianRecursively, you mean?
15:45.20Punkie`I guess!
15:45.40FISKER_Qyay nimbal
15:45.41Punkie`I have 4 values, preferably I would just like to list it as: 1, 2, 3 ,4
15:45.47Punkie`instead if it just saying 1
15:45.52nevcairielisnt that what unpack does?
15:45.59Xuerianthat's what unpack does, it returns a touple
15:46.04Xueriantuple*
15:46.15Punkie`it doesn't work :(
15:46.23Punkie`it just lists the first value o.O
15:46.26nevcairielunpack({1,2,3}) returns 1, 2, 3
15:46.29Xuerianlocal a, b, c, d = unpack({1, 2, 3, 4})
15:46.33trhoh lol.. kenco did it again
15:46.39Xuerianwhere a, b, c, d = 1, 2, 3, 4
15:46.41trhit so pointless to discuss anything with that jerk
15:46.46Punkie`I have:
15:46.48Punkie`get = function() return unpack(self.db.profile.energyvalues) end,
15:47.07nevcairielguess that wont work
15:47.13nevcairielwhat type of option is it?
15:47.23Punkie`text :o
15:47.31Xuerian*/dump mod.db.profile.energyvalues and see what you actually need to unpack
15:47.37Punkie`ok
15:48.05XuerianAlso
15:48.07Xuerianehm
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15:48.10nevcairieland pastey a bit more code
15:48.12nevcairiel:)
15:48.25Xuerianget probably only uses one value in the return tuple, so the rest is discarded
15:48.59Punkie`ok
15:49.16Ominousits not possible to sort a table that isnt numerically indexed is it
15:49.22XuerianOminous: It is
15:49.29Ominoushow
15:49.38XuerianOminous: You have to write your own iterator or cross-reference the table, though
15:49.45Ominous?
15:50.09Punkie`http://ace.pastey.net/57022
15:50.14XuerianOminous: There's a iterator ck wrote in xloottools.lua in xloot that handles hashes. It's crazy voodoo though
15:50.36Punkie`btw i couldnt get that validate thing to work either xD
15:50.43XuerianPunkie`: table.concat (table [, sep [, i [, j]]])
15:51.04Xuerianhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.5
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15:51.31Punkie`but the table is indexed o.O
15:51.58HjalteI know threattoktm is work in process, but i shouldnt have to do anything else than installing it to have it send my threat, right?
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15:52.42Punkie`is there any way to get that validate thingie working too? :)
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15:53.09NimbalHello everyone
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15:54.51Punkie`Xuerian: this is my DB though: http://ace.pastey.net/57023
15:54.52Icerothany chance to implement a check to Gladiator if Tattle is present or not?
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15:57.30Chomperswow, the ktm thread gets better every day
15:58.01MorghusPitBull_BarFader.lua errors, alot of them. And AceConsole 2.0.
15:58.09FISKER_Qnah
15:58.10ChompersAntiarc makes a good post, kenco pretty much goes "OMGZ TROLLZ"
15:58.17WobinIt's high time that thread gets locked =P
15:58.30WobinIt's gotten to the point where I'm almost about to post =P
15:58.35Wobinand I don't want to escalate =P
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15:58.58Chomperswhy is he so hostile to....logic ?
15:59.08Chompersor reasoning
15:59.13Punkie`oh man, THERE IS SO MUCH TEXT! *reads*
15:59.21trhChompers: he's a moron jackass.
15:59.32trhChompers: or sick.. i don't know... and don't care
15:59.52Chompersits such a shame. he could make ktm so efficent
16:00.05FISKER_Qoh well more to hate Curse for is a win-win
16:00.26trhanyway.. let's all make threat better than ktm and the users will switch
16:00.42Punkie`"Also had this cool brainstorm today about dynamic processor throttling which i might implement."
16:00.43Punkie`hehe
16:00.48Chompers:P
16:01.10KarlThePaganhe could do "better" than an ace-based addon if he actually tried... it would at least look better on the profiler if it didn't use libraries... but that's a lot of good work to duplicate
16:01.19trhPunkie`: the funny thing is, that he replied to me that it has nothing to do with ktmcpumanager, he wants to make it less cpu time in heavy raid situations
16:01.31trhPunkie`: i have no idea why only then, but whatever
16:01.41Punkie`yeah
16:02.08Chompersdoes ktm really check if you're fighting the twin emps everywhere you go?
16:02.12Chompersor was that a joke
16:02.15Wobinapparantly =P
16:02.20WobinI've yet to find the code though
16:02.26XuerianPunkie`: return table.concat(db.profile.energyvalues, ', ')
16:02.29WobinI was looking for the OMG Suddenly Hunter code
16:02.46KarlThePaganmight be the refresh talents code every 10 sec
16:02.57Chompersthats fucking ridiculuos
16:03.02trhChompers: look at KTM_My.lua in me.redostates()
16:03.03WobinI think it's possibly the check for feign death code
16:03.09Chomperschecking now trh
16:03.15trhChompers: that's one of the function that he calls every frame!
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16:04.11theoddone33what forum is this thread on?
16:04.19Xuerianhttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/
16:04.24Chompershe checks if the players charmed....every frame?
16:04.53theoddone33wow...
16:04.55theoddone33that's quite a lot of text
16:05.13Xueriantheoddone33: It goes back 12 pages.
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16:05.58trhChompers: yep.. and basically every "module" in ktm can do such things
16:06.08Punkie`Xuerian: HAWT!
16:06.12Chompersfucking boggles my mind
16:06.14trhChompers: and he's checking if the player is in combat.. i mean: WTF? PLAYER_ENTERING_COMBAT? =)
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16:06.34Wobin...
16:06.39Chomperswhy not wait for the player to be flagged in combat?
16:06.43ChompersWHY
16:06.46WobinIsn't he doing multiple table lookups with each check?
16:06.58Wobinme.states.playercharmed is a triple lookup, isn't it?
16:07.13Punkie`How come Kenco has to insult someone at least once in his posts :/
16:07.18trhWobin: when in combat he runs for loops to check for recent attacks and stuff
16:07.30WobinPunkie`: That's exactly what I don't like about it
16:07.49WobinThere's one. -one- response without an insult
16:08.17trhPunkie`: because he can't argue with reason, his coding sucks at this place, he doesnt know it but feels insulted
16:08.27Punkie`yeah, shame
16:08.56Punkie`The funny thing is Threat-1.0 spawned out of antiarc trying to give him some tips on how to improve his code?
16:09.17trhPunkie`: so he a) defends himself by saying we cant test/measure/argue, regardless of whats true and b) insults our skills/work/intelligence
16:10.35WobinAt least he comments a lot in his code
16:10.38WobinI'll give him that =)
16:10.41Chomperswhat's it called when an addon waits for an event to occur before doing something?
16:10.47Chompersevent-driven i guess?
16:10.50Wobinyeah
16:10.55Wobinpolling is the opposite
16:11.03Wobinwhere it fires after a determined time period
16:11.16trhWobin: but still, who the hell uses globals like "thismod"
16:11.19Chomperswhat a waste of resources
16:11.37Kalman|trh: People without formal software training.
16:11.42Wobinwell duh
16:11.47WobinHis is the only mod that matters
16:12.03Chomperswe're got a few people using really old laptaps in my guild, i'd imagine they'd be very happy with an extra 10fps
16:12.08WobinWe should all put in code that overwrites the global thismod =P
16:12.18Kalman|Wobin: Nah.  Keep the high road.
16:12.21WobinChompers: Ha
16:12.27WobinI'd be happy with 10fps =)
16:12.37trh_Wobin: i don't think we should go to that low niveau
16:12.41Kalman|When's the new machine arrive, Wobin?
16:12.42GagorianMyAddon:OnEnable()
16:12.45Gagorianthismod = nil
16:12.46Gagorianend
16:12.47WobinI've yet to buy it =P
16:12.51Chompershahahh
16:12.52Kalman|Well, get to it!  :p
16:12.58WobinIt's 2am!
16:13.02Chompersanyone sent you moneys yet Wobin?
16:13.02WobinI'll find out tomorrow
16:13.05Kalman|Mail order is open at 2 AM!
16:13.10Wobinhehe no =)
16:13.22WobinAnd that's for a Frakkin Great TV fund, anyway =)
16:13.23trh_your shops are opened on sunday?
16:13.30Kalman|Mail order?
16:13.33Kalman|Yes.
16:13.46trh_oh ok
16:13.51Kalman|And actually most shops are open til 5 or 6 PM today.
16:13.53trh_but you dont get it on sunday do you?
16:14.03Chompersno enough use of the word 'Frack' in that thread
16:14.06Chompersor motherfracker
16:14.10Kalman|No, but it's mail order, it's going to be a few days no matter what.
16:14.22WobinWe need more lobo =)
16:14.55WobinI'll find out when the place closes, then head over and talk to them
16:15.02WobinI want to make a few changes to the spec they're offering
16:15.34Gnarfoztrh_: shops open on sunday, perhaps it'll happen for us soon, too... I hear stuff is on it's way through the mills of our political system regarding this subject^^
16:15.56trh_Gnarfoz: hehe.. in schleswig holstein in the seebäder many shops are open
16:16.07FISKER_Qugh
16:16.07Mech0zckknight where do you have the stable version of pitbull?
16:16.08FISKER_Qgermans!
16:16.11trh_Gnarfoz: but i have alot of doubts that they'll change anything in bavaria =)
16:16.12Mech0znow that you advise to use 39xxx until 2.1.2
16:16.17FISKER_QMech0z files.wowace.com
16:16.32FISKER_Qhttp://www.wowace.com/files/PitBull/
16:16.49Mech0zr40367
16:16.53FISKER_Qbtw Quake Wars beta next week :o
16:17.06Gnarfoztrh_: hm, if they do it on a state basis, then rest assured, if some do it, eventually all will follow suit ^^
16:17.18Punkie`"Gee, those were some inspiring posts about absolute versus relative time. Inspiringly stupid. I'm going to explain in simple terms why you are wrong, but you'll have to pay close attention since mathematics doesn't appear to be your strong suit."
16:17.23Punkie`oh dear god, i lolled
16:17.32FISKER_Qhttp://files.wowace.com/PitBull/PitBull-r39408.1046.zip
16:17.46trh_Gnarfoz: öffnungszeiten sind ländersache - at the moment in bavaria. stores closed at 20:00, in BW, shops open till 21:00 or 22 or even later
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16:18.05trh_Gnarfoz: luckily i can choose with just walking over a bridge where to buy =)
16:18.05Mech0zFISKER_Q thx
16:18.11liquiemtrh_: i like your denglisch :p
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16:18.20Mech0zFISKER_Q is that open beta?
16:18.26trh_liquiem: hehe
16:18.31Gnarfozyeah, like I said, if some states do it, eventually all will do it, because of just that, people will go to where they can buy stuff late :D
16:18.57trh_Gnarfoz: true
16:19.08FISKER_QMech0z "open"
16:19.11FISKER_Qas in Fileplanet keke
16:19.58FISKER_Qhttp://www.fileplanet.com/178186/170000/fileinfo/Enemy-Territory:-Quake-Wars---Beta-Client <-a shame you can't download :(
16:20.41Boubouillestupid question !
16:20.47Boubouilleis there a way to change the FoV of the game ?
16:20.55hyperChipmunkno
16:20.58hyperChipmunkwell
16:21.04hyperChipmunkLongsight buff
16:21.11Boubouillehmmmm k
16:21.47TecnoBratDoes Threat-1.0 sync with KTM?
16:22.02hyperChipmunkreads; writes is under development
16:22.07dodgizzlapurl should auto-reply to such questions :D
16:22.12KarlThePaganTecnoBrat, ThreatToKTM does
16:22.22Chompersstupid fileplanet
16:22.25hyperChipmunkin default config, purl does pipe in
16:22.34hyperChipmunkthis one doesn't reply unless directly spoken to
16:22.35Chompersi want mah quakewars beta >:|
16:22.40dodgizzlapurl: answer ffs!
16:22.41CIA-2203rabbit * r40384 10BananaDKP/type/Symphony.lua: BananaDKP: Forgot to commit some changes to our dkp formula.
16:22.51Trancerfeature request for Omen, make it a 'plugin' for FuBar/DeuceCommander so the Icon can be removed from the Minimap (right now it's only detachable)
16:22.53trh_cool.. just found http://trh.ath.cx/~trh/pics/Ulm_Blick_auf_Donau.jpg - the bridge that connects bavaria from bw =)
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16:23.36TecnoBratSo ThreatToKTM sends info to KTM .. but by default Threat-1.0 reads from KTM? correct?
16:23.39Kalman|Trancer: ?  Pretty sure my Omen install is fubar only, no minimap icon.
16:23.43MorghusAceConsole errors keep popping up lately. Who do I report to? Oo
16:23.44Kalman|TecnoBrat: Correct.
16:23.49CIA-2203helium * r40385 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (addon.lua import.lua):
16:23.49CIA-22Cartographer_Trainers
16:23.49CIA-22- updated zhTW localization
16:23.50KarlThePaganTecnoBrat, yes
16:23.56TecnoBratCool, thanks guys.
16:24.02TrancerKalman|: Hmm, I run no FuBar and I have a minimap Icon (I do run DeuceCommander)
16:24.06FISKER_Qthe best ktm sync would be an addon that queried for KTM and kicked people from the raid, group or guild
16:24.18TrancerI run rev 40070 though, perhaps it got coded yesterday
16:24.26hyperChipmunkhehe
16:24.29KarlThePaganthe minimap stuff is a standard fubar plugin feature
16:24.30Chomperswhy has no one went "L2Code" in the ktm thread :P
16:24.32Kalman|Trancer: It's been like that for a while, but I do run fubar.
16:24.37FISKER_Qwith the possibillity of random values sent to confuse KTM and the user
16:24.44Kaeltenanyone here able to make graphics for wow?
16:24.45Trancer*writes a cronjob that automagically updates omen* ;-)
16:24.47hyperChipmunkkenco already beat us to it
16:24.58Wobinhe calls it KTM
16:24.58KarlThePagankek
16:25.03vhaarrKaelten: Ask Mikk.
16:25.17TecnoBrathyperChipmunk, didnt you know everyone here doesnt know how to code?
16:25.28TecnoBratand that the CPU and mem profilers in wow are wrong?
16:25.32hyperChipmunkwow, learn to program
16:25.37KarlThePaganwow learn to program
16:25.50KarlThePaganpurl wow is wow learn to program
16:25.50purlI think you lost me on that one, KarlThePagan
16:26.08Wobinhehe
16:26.13FISKER_Q#wowace is probably the biggest collection of childish immature retarded incompetent coders in all of history
16:26.19Chompers:O
16:26.25FISKER_Q(pun intended or whatever)
16:26.26TrancerThen why are you still here? ;-)
16:26.29Chompersoh god, what if Kenco is here RIGHT NOW
16:26.36KarlThePaganlulz
16:26.37FISKER_Qbecause i'm the biggest of them
16:26.50KarlThePaganmaybe he'll get some tips
16:26.52Wobinahah
16:26.56Trancerheh
16:26.58Wobinnot like he'd go slumming =P
16:27.02KarlThePaganLIKE HE COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN ACE IF HE REALLY WANTED TO TRY
16:27.06KarlThePagan;)
16:27.09WobinNot too hard =P
16:27.12TrancerWobin: kudos for making MrPlow btw
16:27.19WobinTrancer: Thank you =)
16:27.21TrancerWobin: we've a cute forum thread about it titled "BEST ADDON EVER"
16:27.25FISKER_Qnah
16:27.28FISKER_QKodos Wobin, KODOS
16:27.29Trancer;-)
16:27.34WobinIT's true
16:27.38TrancerYes, it is
16:27.38WobinI'd want Kodos =)
16:27.50WobinI'd keep one in the bathroom
16:27.57TrancerKodo's allow undead to ride through the rivers in UC :~(
16:27.58Kalman|...
16:28.07Kalman|What would you do with a bathroom kodo, Wobin?
16:28.07KarlThePaganlol
16:28.09Wobinwell it'd be silly to keep him in the sitting room
16:28.10Kalman|Do we want to know?
16:28.13FISKER_QI can ride through rivers on all mounts besides the hawkstrider
16:28.14FISKER_Qon my undead
16:28.20FISKER_Qi think
16:28.21Xuerianhaha. pgl ftw.
16:28.43TrancerMust be global warming in UC then, the rivers are drying up!
16:31.32FISKER_Qhttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182097040039.jpg <-holy shit
16:31.38FISKER_Qthey're fagging all over happycat
16:31.40FISKER_Qfuck them :(
16:31.41dodgizzlaAntiarc: I know you don't care about Sanity anymore :D But when I try to delete data for a character nothing happens :(
16:32.35FISKER_Qsanity is the best bagmod ever :(
16:33.16Dustwhisperfor cooldowntimers2 is it possible to only have the cooldown announce showing?
16:33.23Dustwhisperdont want any of the cooldown bars to show at all
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16:34.32dodgizzlaHm, Yata does not have an official thread :(
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16:37.05BankZSilly question, I know you can "connect" multiple tabs to the "General" chat tab, but can you do that to other tabs?
16:37.15BankZI wanta have multiple sets of tabs
16:37.23WobinBankZ: I'm fairly sure you can
16:37.35Wobinjust separate them out and group them how you want
16:37.56BankZwhen I Drag the 2nd tab over, it never seems to "link"
16:38.50ChompersFISKER_Q
16:38.53Chompersits HAPPYCAT
16:39.00Chompershoray!
16:39.38FISKER_Qyes
16:39.42FISKER_Qand they're fagging him :(
16:39.44BankZdo you know what I mean?
16:40.00CIA-2203ominous * r40386 10PoisonMenu/Core.lua: PoisonMenu: added sort by name or count
16:41.24Punkie`Man, still reading this KTM thing, it reminds me of the 2 stupid dogs
16:41.35Punkie`"Ahh, isn't that cute... BUT IT'S WRONG!"
16:42.40BankZI would think Prat would have the option, but I dont see anything
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16:42.48Higduranyone know the command to save the position of a Bartender3 bar?
16:42.54WobinBankZ: Yeah I do, but I'm not currently connected to try and test stuff out
16:43.01XuerianFISKER_Q: rofl
16:43.11Xuerianwow a strategy game though? nub :p
16:43.26BankZWobin: Im pretty sure it doesnt work expect foe the "main" chat window
16:43.31Wobinalas =(
16:43.34BankZunless there is a mod or something
16:43.57FISKER_Qit is a strategy game Xuerian :P
16:44.09XuerianFISKER_Q: No! This. Is. SERIOUS BUSINESS!
16:44.25CIA-2203helium * r40387 10Cartographer_Trainers/Cartographer_Trainers.toc:
16:44.25CIA-22Cartographer_Trainers
16:44.25CIA-22- updated zhTW localization
16:44.46BankZIs prat still the best chat mod?
16:44.57WobinThere's mumble
16:45.01Wobinand simplechatmods
16:45.23BankZdo they seem better?
16:45.47WobinIt's all relative =)
16:45.51WobinI've yet to try them all out
16:45.59Punkie`BankZ you cannot
16:46.19XuerianBankZ: Prat is probably the most in-depth featured one
16:47.25BankZPunkie: Bummer
16:47.25XuerianBankZ: However, I still use a old version of idchat, which suits my needs perfectly
16:48.11Punkie`Xuerian: Make your own!
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16:48.23Punkie`I did, was my first little project :D
16:48.41XuerianPunkie`: I wrote my own mod, and I'm happy with using mods that do what I need them to otherwise :p
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16:49.11boobies4ufuck in hell
16:49.16Dustwhisperive started on my own mod aswell, it is hell!
16:49.32aibohi there
16:49.43BankZsimplemap is a great addon, but I dont like how it does the "movers"
16:49.44Xuerianhaha.
16:49.48XuerianWhat a welcome, aibo
16:49.52aibois there anyone to help me about writing an addon ?
16:50.21BankZis there something better to move that stuff?
16:50.34aiboXuerian: I want to display the list of all the users currently online on a server ?
16:50.35Xuerianaibo: Between here, #wowi-lounge, http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html, http://wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API and http://wowwiki.com/Widget_API, you should do fine
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16:50.48Xuerianaibo: That would be called a census mod
16:50.59aibowhat?
16:51.10aiboXuerian: I couldn
16:51.26aiboXuerian: I couldn't get you?
16:51.41XuerianWho to the what now? 0_o
16:51.44CIA-2203adirelle * r40388 10ThreatToKTM/ (ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc embeds.xml libs/): (log message trimmed)
16:51.44CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
16:51.44CIA-22- relaxed activation condition: TTK activates itself when Threat-1.0 does,
16:51.44CIA-22- added console commands: /ttk and /threattoktm,
16:51.44CIA-22- added a FuBarPlugin with an informative tooltip,
16:51.46CIA-22- options to enable/disable,
16:51.48CIA-22- options to enable/disable debugging,
16:51.50WobinYou'd basically have to poll the /who for each possible grouping of type of player for that faction over time
16:52.13boobies4ui had a bug, i installed bugsack to get the detailed info, i havent seen the error since
16:52.15WobinAnd even then, chances are you'll not be fully accurate
16:52.17boobies4usuxxx, gief error!
16:52.27aiboXuerian: hello
16:52.43Lyfei'm still really suprised blizzard hasn't put in a function or something to let you know how many people are currently connected to your realm.
16:53.11WobinWell it doesn't really help gameplay, does it?
16:53.18Xuerianaibo: Hi. 0.o
16:53.26StephmwLyfe: EverQuest did at the beginning, they removed it quickly
16:53.33Punkie`FISKER_Q: I lolled at your latest KTM comment :P
16:53.34aiboXuerian: ok i search on google and there is mod named as census
16:53.40Lyfeinteresting.  it get abused?
16:53.55Xuerianaibo: Has it been updated recently?
16:54.00BankZman, I need to find something better than outfitter but I cant
16:54.12StephmwLyfe: not really... I was graphing all the populations on all EQ realms every 10mins
16:54.16durcynClosetGnome.
16:54.26StephmwLyfe: they weren't happy the numbers were being used that way
16:54.28Punkie`aibo: 2 seconds on google; http://www.warcraftrealms.com/censusplus.php :)
16:54.29BankZI cant use closetgnome
16:54.46Xuerianaibo: Better to use a existing mod for something with theoretical formulas like that
16:55.10StephmwLyfe: primarily I think they didn't want competitors to have accurate gamer numbers
16:55.11BankZ<PROTECTED>
16:55.17LyfeStephmw: ahh, heh.  I'd just like to have a /-command for knowing how many people are on the realm i'm currently on.
16:56.00aiboXuerian: I have another issue. I want to get the list of the servers in the USA region
16:56.15aiboand then crawl each of the server to get the list of the online users
16:56.21Xueriano_0
16:56.28XuerianUh
16:56.41NickenyfikenSomeone post http://Kenco.youaremyfriend.com/ in the KLK Trheatmeter thread please.
16:56.47XuerianYou can't do that, that would require action outside of in-world. In-world is the only time addons can affect the game
16:57.29Wobinrofl
16:57.32XuerianNickenyfiken: bahahaahahahaha
16:57.33WobinI lol'd =P
16:57.34aiboXuerian: How do you think it will be possible ?
16:57.47aiboXuerian: manually login to each server and scan the lists?
16:57.52Xuerianaibo: Do it A: by hand. B: By a AutoIt script, maybe? Which is probably against tos
16:58.32XuerianHave to afk myself at the moment, though
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16:59.11Wobinaibo: You'd have to log in manually
17:00.56aibowobin: I can also store the list the of the users, i find online on a server, on the disk?
17:00.59Mech0zFISKER_Q that pitbull dont work well :( it makes some healthbar and raid error :/
17:01.08Mech0zso taking the chance not to crash with the new version
17:01.09Punkie`http://isntthatcute.ytmnd.com/ ! woot
17:01.19WobinI'd suggest you start off coding a somewhat simpler addon to start with
17:01.29Wobina census addon isn't the easiest thing to figure out
17:01.50aibowobin:I just want to get the list of the online users
17:01.59FISKER_Qi haven't gotten any crashes Mech0z
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17:02.18WobinAnd you can only do that through the /who interface
17:02.33Wobinwhich stops you from making multiple calls to it at any one time
17:02.40WobinYou'll have to wait about 5 seconds between each request
17:02.47Wobinand it'll only return 50 users max at a time
17:03.17WobinSo you'll have to filter the output by class/location/race/etc and hope there aren't more than 50 of each online
17:03.27Wobinand you'll have to do this for every realm
17:03.49vrakyou can filter with letters too
17:03.49WobinTrue
17:03.53WobinBut that's a nightmare =P
17:04.02vrakbut in any case, checking a whole realm takes an eternity
17:04.08aiborobin: and if i request again after 5s will it return unique list?
17:04.15Wobinnot necessarily
17:04.24aibohmm
17:04.36WobinIt's unfortunately a limitation of the system that makes it difficult
17:04.57vraki'd bet it isn't accidental :p
17:04.57Wobinwhich is why I suggest you try for an easier addon to get your feet wet =)
17:05.08Wobinoh no doubt it's entirely intentional
17:05.29WobinYou could -possibly- scan the armoury...
17:05.36Wobinand get names that way
17:05.41WobinI don't know how efficient that would be
17:05.43Mech0zFISKER_Q I had 1 today which is the first in a week
17:05.48Mech0zso lft 2.1.2
17:05.54aibowobin: actually i am to do this :).
17:06.16WobinI'm not sure how you'd get a namelist though
17:06.47WobinCause the armoury's ajax is horrible =(
17:07.01Punkie`Can someone give me a few pointers on how to get this working please?
17:07.06SomaniIs an Omen-dev here? ;)
17:07.28Punkie`I have a slash input and I input 4 numbers... I want to make sure that it's only 4 numbers that are put in
17:07.29Punkie`so I have
17:07.32Punkie`validate = function(...) for i = 1,4, select("#", ...) do if type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" then return true end end end,
17:07.38aibowobin: well! it mean i have two options one->/who two->armoury
17:07.53Punkie`but it always says that the input is invalid :(#
17:07.59WobinI would stick to the armoury
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17:08.04vrakdoesn't the armoury return nearly pure xml with some javascript/styling slapped on top?
17:08.05WobinYou don't have to log into every server that way
17:08.14Funkeh`hi al
17:09.01WobinPunkie`: have it print out what type it's getting
17:09.03FISKER_Qvrak if your browser supports it yes
17:09.07Wobinand see what you get
17:09.12Wobinchances are it's all coming out as strings
17:09.18Punkie`no, thats fine
17:09.22Punkie`all I want to do is go
17:09.29Punkie`<PROTECTED>
17:09.43Punkie`but if i do that, it will say 'Invalid input!'
17:09.54Punkie`so I think the function is wrong
17:10.11GagorianPunkie`: Shouldn't it be return false?
17:10.34Punkie`:o
17:10.35Wobin^
17:10.39Wobinyeah that =)
17:11.03aibowobin: my problem is that i am not much familiar with wow
17:11.16MokFISKER_Q what do you mean by "if your browser supports it
17:11.16aibowobin: I am learning side by side
17:11.25Wobinif you're using the armoury, you won't need too much actual WoW API knowledge
17:11.27nevcairielAntiarc: awake yet ? :D
17:11.30XuerianFunkeh`: for i = 4, select("#", ...)
17:11.31Wobinas it's all separate to the game itself
17:11.32Xuerianer
17:11.35XuerianPunkie`: *
17:12.06Funkeh`Xuerian: ?
17:12.08Funkeh`oh
17:12.08Wobinwouldn't " for i = 1,4, select("#", ...)" go 1...4
17:12.09Funkeh`lol
17:12.13Funkeh`you suck!
17:12.17Wobin?
17:12.17Xuerian:P
17:12.20Xuerianyour own fault
17:12.25XuerianSimilar named bugger
17:12.26Xuerian:p
17:12.30XuerianWobin: er
17:12.35XuerianWobin: lol, right
17:12.37GagorianWobin: Not necessarily. Cause then select("#", ...) is the increase
17:12.45Xuerianfor i = 1, select("#", ...)
17:12.49Wobinyeh, but he's putting in 4 numbers
17:12.50Punkie`well, i must need a return true somewhere surely
17:12.54Wobinso it's essentially 1,4,4
17:13.08Mech0zis skinner lightweight?
17:13.11GagorianWobin: It just does 1 then stops
17:13.11aibowobin:is there anyway to communicate with you other than this forum
17:13.11XuerianPunkie`: i was only addressing part of it
17:13.13WobinPunkie`: if validate() then
17:13.14GagorianCause it adds 4
17:13.20Punkie`because now it says '[1 2 3 4] is not a valid option'
17:13.20XuerianMech0z: It's heavy at startup, but then it doesn't do anything
17:13.26Mech0zok
17:13.38XuerianMech0z: Since it literally skins everything, once that's done it has no active role
17:13.43Wobinaibo: Probably not easily =) I'm about to log off for bed now, as it's 3am
17:13.46aibowobin:email address it will be easy for me as I can't use MIRC from office
17:13.55Wobintry wobster@gmail.com
17:14.05aibothank wobin
17:14.07WobinI can't really help you with the armoury stuff, as I've never looked into it
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17:14.15Wobinbut someone like Antiarc may be able to help there
17:14.38aibowobin: now i got you and i will drag you into this also :D
17:14.42Wobinhehe
17:14.47WobinI have not the time!
17:15.06aibobut i think you can repond to email ?
17:15.21Punkie`Gagorian: Do I need to return true somewhere?
17:15.36aibowobin: hope you do reply your emails :)
17:15.38Punkie`Gagorian: Because no matter the input, I always get that whatever I have written is invalid
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17:15.57WobinPunkie`: Put in more debugging statements
17:16.06XuerianPunkie`: validate = function(...) for i = 1, select("#", ...) do if type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" then return true end end end
17:16.24Xuerianfor structure is for {init}, {end}, {incriment} do
17:16.48Wobinyou also want return false
17:16.54Xuerianprobably :p
17:17.01Punkie`well this is going a little over my head :(
17:17.11Punkie`I just want it to only accept 4 numbers on input :P
17:17.13Xuerianvalidate = function(...) for i = 1,4, select("#", ...) do return type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" end end
17:17.22Xuerianbah
17:17.32Wobinbasically if you have for 1,4,2 the i will equal 1, then 3
17:17.45Lyfeerr, won't that return on just the first value, not based on all 4?
17:17.50Xuerianvalidate = function(...) for i = 1, select("#", ...) do if i > 4 return false end return type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" end end
17:17.57Xuerianbah
17:17.59Xueriandamnit lyfe
17:18.01Xuerianstop making sense
17:18.02trh_Antiarc: there?
17:18.04XuerianIT BURNS
17:18.05WobinLyfe: well you only need to validate one
17:18.16Wobinor invalidate one, as the case is
17:18.21XuerianOK LET'S DO THIS AGAIN
17:18.24Wobinhehe
17:18.40Lyferight, but that means that you cannot return based on the condition of a single one being/not being a number. (sorry xuerian) :)
17:18.53Xuerianfunction(...) for i = 1, select("#", ...) do if i > 4 or type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" return false end end return true end
17:18.58Xuerianthere
17:18.59Wobinyeah, but I think he wants all of them numbers
17:19.07Xuerianfour arguments all numbers
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17:19.28Wobinand the validation function can't tell you which entry is invalid, as it's a boolean function
17:19.43Xuerianyou can print out which input is wrong, really
17:20.11Wobinindubitably
17:20.11Lyfeactually xuerian, if you are >4, doesn't that mean you've checked all 4 numbers and that they are numbers?
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17:20.26Wobinnot if there's a fifth argument
17:20.27Xuerian..
17:20.30XuerianGRAH
17:20.31Xuerian>_<
17:20.33Punkie`thanks Xuerian, you told me where to put the return true in
17:20.36Xuerian~stab Lyfe
17:20.37purlACTION runs at Lyfe with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
17:20.37Punkie`it goes something like this:
17:20.39Punkie`validate = function(...) for i = 1,4, select("#", ...) do if type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" then return false end end return true end,
17:20.39Wobinhehe
17:20.46Lyfeack!
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17:20.53Punkie`and now it works!
17:21.06XuerianPunkie`: That'll just ignore the last arguments, but that's perfectly fine
17:21.14Xuerians/last/extraneous/
17:21.50Punkie`:(
17:21.52Xuerian~resurrect Lyfe
17:21.52purlACTION gathers all his magical powers (and some prayin'!) and resurrects Lyfe from the dead.
17:21.58Xuerian~hug Lyfe
17:21.59purlACTION hugs Lyfe tightly until Lyfe turns slightly blue
17:22.03Xuerian>.o
17:22.07Lyfe:)
17:22.11Wobinpgl wins at the KTM thread posting
17:22.12Punkie`I only have space in my frame for 4 numbers
17:22.16XuerianWobin: Agreed
17:22.26Lyfewhew.. least it wasn't green..
17:22.27Punkie`sooooooo, if they enter more then they suck
17:22.37Xuerian:p
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17:23.04Wobinoh hey
17:23.06Wobinit's Fin =P
17:23.14WobinI wonder if it's our Fin =P
17:23.36Adirelledoes _G *always* reference the global namespace ?
17:23.44Wobinyus
17:23.44hyperChipmunkno
17:23.52hyperChipmunkonly if you set it
17:23.52Wobin^
17:23.59RogueShadowI'm sure its just because i'm not used to the wowace community, but how can I revert pitbull?  I normally use wowace updater to stay up to date.  So reverting is an afterthought until we started having crashes
17:24.02XuerianIsn't it default now?
17:24.06hyperChipmunkis it?
17:24.09bigzerohyperChipmunk, http://ace.pastey.net/57029
17:24.09XuerianI think it is
17:24.10KarlThePaganit's a convention... local _G = getenv(0)
17:24.11XuerianI know it *wasn't*
17:24.13KarlThePagansomething like that
17:24.20hyperChipmunkgetfenv
17:24.21WobinRogueShadow: You'll have to download the file from files.wowace.com/PitBull/
17:24.22Primersigh, blizzard's billing system is foobar, and because of this, I can't play today
17:24.22XuerianKarlThePagan: It's default in normal lua, it wasn't in blizz's
17:24.27KarlThePaganoic
17:24.31RogueShadowThanks.
17:24.42Adirelleso ? have to use KarlThePagan thing ?
17:24.50XuerianAdirelle: Try using it :P
17:24.56XuerianIf it works it references the global namespace
17:24.57KarlThePaganAdirelle, the correct syntax is local _G = getfenv(0)
17:25.07XuerianIf you feel like it, local _G = getfenv(0) works fine and wont' bork anything
17:25.16KarlThePaganit's also better to use local _G instead of a global _G
17:25.35KarlThePaganit's more efficient for some ways slightly mysterious to me
17:25.36XuerianGOSH DARN PEOPLE IF YOU MAKE ANY MORE SENSE I SWEAR I WILL... TYPE IN CAPS AGAIn
17:25.43Wobinthe horror
17:25.45KarlThePaganputs it on the stack instead of the heap ... something like that
17:25.47Xuerians/In/IN/
17:26.14Lyfelovely, xuerian.
17:26.23XuerianLyfe: I thought so too. =D
17:26.25WobinXuerian isn't having a good day so far =)
17:26.30Xuerian>_<
17:27.59NickenyfikenHmm anyone know much about weapon skill rating?
17:28.27NickenyfikenWell i have to decide what to use as my MH, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27533 vs. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28392
17:28.33CIA-2203punkie * r40389 10TickTo/ (TickTo.toc core.lua libs/): TickTo: New structure, cleaned up, has a slash handler! Frame changes width dependant on ClearFont(2).
17:29.21Punkie`hooray!
17:30.22FISKER_Qwhat's TickTo?
17:30.27Punkie`go try it!
17:30.45FISKER_Qnot a rogue anymore
17:30.49Lyfe"Rogue Micro-Management made easy!"
17:30.53Punkie`:D
17:31.02Punkie`omg, you have no place with my addon!
17:31.27Lyfei have a mage & a priest, and a few other < lvl30 toons... no rogues though.. :\
17:31.34FinNickenyfiken: tried RatingsBuster?
17:31.40FinNickenyfiken: it's awesome
17:31.55Punkie`well it's only really useful for PvE :)
17:32.26NickenyfikenWell yeah, but that does not tell me if undead skill rating is more worth compared to hit rating
17:32.38LywellynYo yo, everyone.
17:32.55WobinIs that you, Rocky?
17:32.58art3misxeur sucks!
17:33.05art3misckknight: ping
17:33.08LywellynNope.
17:34.36KarlThePaganok I couldn't not post...
17:34.38aibowobin: I opened that site http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/
17:34.48FinNickenyfiken: oh, I see
17:35.01aibowobin:it just provide the search not the listings
17:35.30Wobinyeah, but you might be able to leverage the info in there to get what you need
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17:35.41LywellynStill going rounds with Kenco?
17:36.18trh_most gave up... it's pointless
17:36.23aibowobin:no i don't think so
17:36.42trh_like discussing with a emo that life is good.. or sth. ;)
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17:36.55Wobinhehe
17:37.13aibowobin: because doing that you are limited to the results
17:37.19bigzerohyperChipmunk, ping
17:37.33aibowobin:which might or might not even close to the users on that server
17:37.39Wobinaibo: true
17:37.51WobinI can't think of any other way to do it that isn't long and painful though =)
17:38.09dodgizzlaI don't get how ClassTimer AllInOne works.. I set it both options to player and still I have 4 different anchors for the bars instead one
17:38.10aibowobin: just let me know if that is possible or not
17:38.35aibowobin: i mean getting the accurate user list
17:38.35Wobinaibo: I can't think of a way to be entirely accurate, but others may have some idea
17:38.44dodgizzlaAnyone knows how to set ClassTimer up, so that all timers show up under the same anchor?
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17:38.59Punkie`allinone
17:39.39dodgizzlaPunkie`: Yeah, as I said.. I'm too stupid :D I set it to player and owner to player
17:39.40aibowobin: can you please refer me to someone who can provide some info on that
17:39.52dodgizzlastill I get an anchor for focus, target, player and sticky
17:39.59Wobinaibo: I don't know. Try looking in wowi-lounge for more people
17:40.15Punkie`dodgizzla: I just ticked allinone or something, then set the anchor to player
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17:41.27aibowobin: Thanks
17:41.36Wobinnp
17:41.41aibowobin: i am on #wowlounge and you are also there :)
17:42.04aibowobin: no one is responding
17:42.07WobinGive it time
17:42.15dodgizzlaPunkie`: Hm, strange. Which revision are you using? And what do you have the owner set to? :D
17:42.22Wobinand ask again after some time of no response
17:42.30Wobinpeople are often not online at the time
17:42.34Finaibo: have you had a look at Census+'s code?
17:43.45Punkie`dodgizzla: latest, and 'AllinOne -> Tick all' 'AllinOne Owner -> Player'
17:43.52Fintch, complain about nobody responding then ignore me why doncha
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17:44.19LywellynMan, even Kenco's FAQ and Guide are freaking condescending.
17:44.27dodgizzlaPunkie`: Aaah, I need to tick all.. silly me.
17:44.44Lyfethe man wrote a faq & guide?  heh
17:44.53Punkie`:)
17:45.05Lywellynthe "Description" section of his mod on Curse.
17:45.09LywellynHoly hell.
17:45.12Lyfeahh
17:45.56GandharvaAdirelle: Nice changes. Seems to work now.
17:46.01GandharvaThank you!
17:46.07WobinWho shouldn't be reading this guide?
17:46.07Wobina) People whose KTM is working fine.
17:46.07Wobinb) Illiterate people.
17:46.08Wobinc) People who have never heard of KTM.
17:46.08Wobind) People i don't like.
17:46.31Punkie`Look at Question 1, sigh
17:46.52LywellynWobin: Look at the bottom of his "Last Resort" section, too
17:47.15LywellynFailing that, it's most likely that you haven't read the instructions properly, in which case i can recommend one or more of the following:
17:47.15Lywellyna) Beating your head against a wall. It needs it.
17:47.15Lywellynb) Going back to Freecell. You're not ready for the complexities of WoW it seems.
17:47.25LywellynWhat a dick.
17:47.44Lyfewell, he is trying to be funny... i'll give him benefit of the doubt on a poor attempt.
17:47.47Wobinoh man
17:47.50Wobinhe's an aussie
17:47.54Lyfeat least on "question 1"
17:47.57WobinI apologise for him
17:48.04Wobinon behalf of all australians
17:48.15Lyfeno need, we know where all australians came from. :)
17:49.01Wobinyeah... here =P
17:49.02Punkie`haha
17:49.15Lyfeyeap, i give him benefit of the doubt on the FAQ, that he is actually trying to be humorous.
17:49.20Keiaslol Lyfe
17:49.27Punkie`He's 53 apparently o.O
17:49.34hyperChipmunki would, too, if i hadn't read his posts
17:49.36Lyfethat explains a lot about his humor.
17:49.42Punkie`indeed
17:49.53hyperChipmunkbut having read them, I know he actually means it O_o
17:49.58LywellynTest:  Lywellyn
17:50.08hyperChipmunkuse ~echo
17:50.11Lywellyner, someone else type my name.  Trying out highlighting in mIRC
17:50.16Lywellyn~echo
17:50.17purlecho is, like, an issue which can be best fixed using this link: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current/docs-html/x1695.html#AEN1718, or fixed with fxotune: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fxotune, or best fixed by troubleshooting your pci bus: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PCI+bus+Troubleshooting, or of ...
17:50.19GagorianLywellyn
17:50.19WobinLywellyn:
17:50.25Lywellynahahahahaha.
17:50.29hyperChipmunkyou have to give him something to echo, n00b
17:50.33Lywellynokay, so it doesn't fire on my own messages.  Cool.
17:50.33hyperChipmunk~echo foo
17:50.34purlfoo
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17:50.45LywellynHey, I made him say something.  n00b.
17:50.45Wobin~echo ~echo
17:50.46purl~echo
17:50.46hyperChipmunk~echo Lywellyn is a dork
17:50.47purlLywellyn is a dork
17:50.59Lywellyn~kill hyperChipmunk
17:51.00purlACTION shoots a hyper-charged tachyon gun at hyperChipmunk
17:51.00hyperChipmunkpurl sez it, so it must be true
17:51.07LywellynExactly.
17:51.11cibsexcuse me, if I want to add some translations in somebody's addons for i18n
17:51.27cibsshould i contact to the original author?
17:51.30Wobinyep
17:51.57cibsby email? or any other methods?
17:52.09Wobinhowever which way you can contact them =)
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17:52.56cibsI want to find Athou so that I come here, but he didn't respose~
17:52.57cibsso sad~
17:53.15NickenyfikenAdirelle: KKT?
17:53.20hyperChipmunkanyone else have problems with detached tablets becoming unresponsive?
17:53.42NickenyfikenhyperChipmunk: there is a thread about it
17:53.55NickenyfikenI'm not sure if any Tablet dev is aware really
17:54.01cibsWobin: thx a lot for your reply~
17:54.05Wobinnp
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17:54.06NickenyfikenMy GF had that problem
17:54.20Wobincibs: If they have a thread on a forum, you might want to try there
17:54.27Wobinor if the addon has an email address in it
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17:54.51cibsWobin: roger that, I'll try it
17:54.55LywellynDetached tablets?  That have anything to do with the tooltips on FuBar plugins like I've read?
17:55.12hyperChipmunkthat's them
17:55.14Wobinthe tooltips on fubar plugins are tablets
17:55.24NickenyfikenLywellyn: a FuBar tooptip is a Tablet
17:55.24hyperChipmunk(usually)
17:55.30LywellynYeah, that'd be me.  Happens all the damn time.  Doesn't require them to be detached, either.
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17:55.42hyperChipmunkany workaround besides /rl?
17:55.49NickenyfikenNo it happens when they are not detached thats true
17:55.50LywellynNot that I'm aware of
17:56.13NickenyfikenSomeone posted a fix i think
17:56.13hyperChipmunktime to lynch ckknight
17:56.18LywellynThat's what I meant, sorry.  I don't detach my tooltips and I still can't click on them.
17:56.28Dustwhispercan you get arkinventory to do vertical bags instead?
17:56.33LywellynSometimes it's just the first few lines of the tablet I can't click, other times it's the entire thing.
17:56.35hyperChipmunkwell, i should have said clickable tablets; not necessarily detached
17:56.41hyperChipmunkLywellyn: /nod
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17:57.06NickenyfikenSeems to be a strata thing where the wrong frame is ontop of another
17:57.14Lywellynckknight needs to fix me my AceAddon-2.0 problem I showed him yesterday too.  Though I should thank him for showing me BugSack, I do enjoy that one much better than Swatter.
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17:57.48Dustwhisperbugsack made my mod work cause i finally found out how i was fucking up =D
17:58.01Fino/~  Bug sack bay-bee! Bug Sack baby!  ~/o
18:01.08WobinFin: A little ol' place where, we  can get together..... bug sack baaaybe....
18:01.25hyperChipmunkwhere's this Tablet thread? i r a forum n00b
18:01.59bigzerohyperChipmunk, i think i know why I'm getting the error
18:02.22NickenyfikenhyperChipmunk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6506.0
18:02.23LywellynhyperChipmunk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6506.0
18:02.24hyperChipmunkhttp://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm
18:02.27hyperChipmunkthanks
18:02.28LywellynDamnit!
18:02.32Fino/~  The Bug Sack is a little old mod  ~/o
18:02.41Fino/~  where we can get catch those errors  ~/o
18:02.53FISKER_Qoh god please die Fin :(
18:02.55bigzerobigzero, OnEnable is not getting called when you open the mail frame nor when i enable the mod in fubar
18:03.00Dustwhispercan you get arkinventory to do vertical bags instead? How?
18:03.03Fino/~  Bug sack bay-bee! Bug Sack baby!  ~/o
18:03.10Fino/~  Bug sack, that's where it's at!  ~/o
18:03.16FinFISKER_Q: it's on my todo list
18:03.31FISKER_Qnice
18:03.50LywellynStrange
18:04.01LywellynLooking at my todo list, it's on there too....but *I* didn't put it there...
18:04.04FinI have, actually, (badly) rewritten the entire lyrics for Love Shack: http://fin.instinct.org/bits/bugsackbaby.txt
18:04.37FinI am secretly proud but slightly horrified with myself at the same time
18:05.24Finactually I'm still trying to find someone to sing it for me, two people have agreed but I never seem to catch up with them
18:06.06hyperChipmunkhas anyone tried that Tablet hack and had problems?
18:06.49hyperChipmunkKenco vs. http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm
18:06.53hyperChipmunkwho makes more sense?
18:07.26Mech0zCan omen check how much threat each tank have on each mob in the hyrdross fight when they have the same name?
18:08.01TrancerDoes anyone know if it's possible to get bigger 'images' out of wowmodelviewer than your current resolution of your screen?
18:08.11TrancerIf you zoom in, you loose half of the model
18:09.02DustwhisperCan anyone tell me how to get arkInventory to show the bagslots vertically instead of horisontaly (verticaly is grayed out in options)
18:10.02NickenyfikenhyperChipmunk: flatearth
18:10.35hyperChipmunkyea, i'm leaning towards them too
18:10.36DustwhisperAny addon that will restock reagents automaticly when trading a reagentvendor?
18:11.01hyperChipmunkthe 'Why a Flat Earth?' offers more compelling logic
18:11.06NickenyfikenDustwhisper: freerefills
18:11.28FISKER_Qoh snap :(
18:11.38FISKER_QFineous Darkvire can heal
18:14.17FISKER_Qman
18:14.25FISKER_Q15 minutes later ;D
18:16.44hyperChipmunkrofl @ the current events page
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18:23.51TrancerKalman|: no, Omen does not provide a removal from the minimap area if one does not run FuBar
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18:24.11Kalman|Trancer: I didn't think it did, I think we misunderstood each other.
18:24.12NerrisaAnyone have a problem with Pitbull where party frame 3d portraits flicker?
18:24.18TrancerKalman|: ah
18:24.28Trancermight very well be the case
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18:24.53trh_hyperChipmunk: well.. at least they they explain WHY the earth is flat =)
18:25.05GandharvaAdirelle: An option to hide the FuBar plugin would be nice.
18:25.09trh_hyperChipmunk: kenco doesnt really explain why ktm doesn't has performance issues
18:25.12TrancerKalman|: let's wait for antiarc and request the feature then ;-)
18:25.42Kalman|Trancer: All you, I use fubar.  ;)
18:26.00FISKER_Q<-n00b ;(
18:26.06NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: Flat Earth Society, hands down. They don't resort to ad hominem or strawman arguments to prove their points. ;)
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18:27.17hyperChipmunkNightHawkTheSane: check the Links page
18:27.26trh_it'd be awesome if blizzard would kick .lua and implement LOLCODE instead ;)
18:27.36trh_http://www.lolcode.com/about
18:27.50trh_finally a language EVERY wow user understands ;)
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18:30.41HjalteDoes Bigwigs hide Boss emotes by default?
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18:31.11Funkeh`RAID_BOSS_EMOTE yes
18:31.17NerrisaIs the author of Pitbull around? :)
18:32.29HjalteNerrisa, the author of Pitbull is ckknight.
18:33.02ulicalso of note, PitBull get's update alot, make sure you've got the latest :)
18:33.16Trancerlatest advises you to run 39408 actually
18:33.28ulichehe
18:33.53Chompersgruul = pain :<
18:34.55LywellynI tried PitBull first, but the massive configuration options, while great in practice, somehow confused the hell outta me :3 That's why I switched to agUnitFrames in the first place...
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18:35.07LywellynNow I don't want to switch simply because I don't want to set up a Unit Frame mod all over again ;_;
18:35.24Trancerpitubll is very straight forward once you know how agUF works
18:35.57LywellynThere WAS one thing about Pitbull I DID like that agUF is totally lacking....the frame placeholders that you can activate
18:36.05Lywellynso you can place the frames when you're not in a party/raid/etc
18:36.18NerrisaPitbull is great...jst experienceing a bug
18:36.25Chompersyou dont like pitbull because its got too many options ?
18:36.32NerrisaThe party 3D portrails flicker really bad
18:36.46NerrisaI have to set them to 2d for them to not casue epilepsy.
18:36.51LywellynChompers:  No no. I hail it because it has so many options.  Flexibility is good.  They just confused me at the time.
18:36.56Mech0zis it like 10 times easier making MT's with Ora than in the raidtap?
18:37.00ulicLywellyn: ckknight has actually changed the menu structure some, I think it's a little easier to get around in now, not so overwhelming.
18:37.01Mech0zif anyone knows
18:37.11LywellynHmm....maybe I'll try it out again.
18:37.39LywellynAnd, I like the 3D portraits....but the Undead one sucks.  He always moves his head to the upper right, cutting his face off totally.
18:38.01LywellynThere's nothing anyone can do about it though, it's the nature of the movement of the Undead Male model's head.
18:38.06AdirelleGandharva: apart from this, does it work ?
18:38.43CIA-2203gagorian * r40390 10DrDamage/BuffScanning.lua:
18:38.43CIA-22DrDamage:
18:38.43CIA-22- Added Infinity Blade debuff (+5% magical dmg per application )
18:40.08LywellynOh here's a question
18:40.17kenlyrichyperChipmunk: is there a way to make an autosend list that is global?
18:40.27kenlyricin bulkmail
18:40.41LywellynI finally found out what the part after the decimal in an addons revision means.  Cool.  So is there a way to make WAU ignore addons that only have updated that part of the revision?
18:40.59kenlyricLywellyn: run standalone.
18:41.05NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: global? o_0 how would that even work?
18:41.18kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: it would load that autosend list on every toon.
18:41.27GandharvaAdirelle: yes it does. Thanks!
18:41.34NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: just use the default profile, which every toon uses?
18:41.47kenlyricright, but the autosend lists are still char specific.
18:41.48hyperChipmunkkenlyric: ?
18:41.52bigzerohow do you specify that an addon is LoD?
18:41.53CIA-2203gandharva * r40391 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua:
18:41.53CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
18:41.53CIA-22- added option to hide FuBar plugin
18:41.59hyperChipmunkrealm specific
18:42.06hyperChipmunkthe global exclude is char specific
18:42.09kenlyricnot on whaat I just tested.
18:42.21hyperChipmunkwell then you suck
18:42.22Lywellynkenlyric: Standalone?
18:42.30vhaarrHjalte: no, it does not
18:42.46vhaarrHjalte: it hides it if it has a bossmodule active for the boss that emotes
18:42.58Hjaltevhaar, okay, thanks.
18:43.00vhaarrHjalte: and it only hides the one that prints to the middle of the screen, not the chat one
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18:43.08kenlyriclet me just check on the toon I created the list on.
18:43.10hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
18:43.10trh_someone should include http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/336964653_01a3dee5b2_o.jpg?v=0 in the kenco thread ;)
18:43.10hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
18:43.11HjalteYeah, that's fine.
18:43.45Lywellyntrh_:  Should include the cat one:  I R SERIOUS CAT.  THIS R SERIOUS THREAD.
18:43.55trh_Lywellyn: lol
18:44.57kenlyricoh
18:45.02bigzerohyperChipmunk, I am so lost...OnEnable never gets called for me for BM2...using latest version
18:45.02kenlyriclooks like it didn't save my list at all.
18:45.39hyperChipmunkyea, i had that happen to me too
18:45.41CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r40392 10BigWigs/Outland/Kazzak.lua: BigWigs: Fixed zhTW for Kazzak
18:45.41hyperChipmunknot sure why
18:45.52hyperChipmunkbigzero: using any loadmanagers?
18:46.15hyperChipmunkkenlyric: back up your SVs and try it again
18:46.21hyperChipmunkfrom a clean SV
18:46.24hyperChipmunki need some info on that
18:46.26kenlyricBAH!
18:46.30kenlyricok, trying
18:46.57bigzerohyperChipmunk, hmmm, nope
18:47.06BankZIs there an addon that tracks guild changes?
18:47.12BankZlike who left, who joined?
18:47.19Kaydeethreegah. installing a trailer hitch and changing a battery in 32c heat != fun
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18:49.32Kaydeethreeuse the right window, damn it
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18:49.54QuantumDeltahmm kaydee Oo where'd i know that name from
18:50.45CIA-2203adirelle * r40393 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: ThreatToKTM: set up a realistic tooltip refresh rate.
18:51.01FISKER_Qreported for excessive pointless capitilized letters QuantumDelta
18:51.05harl|WoWis the author of nQuestLog currently present ?
18:51.06bigzerohyperChipmunk, so you're saying I should use a loadmanager?
18:51.14dodgizzlaIs it possible to show a timer for certain buffs/debuffs in ClassTimers to appear under Sticky as well as, say, focus?
18:51.25QuantumDeltaExcessive?!
18:51.28FISKER_Qnope harl|WoW :I
18:51.39harl|WoWk
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18:53.58ckknighthey all
18:54.00NickenyfikenAdirelle: Is it still called KKT instead of TTK in the FuBar panel? :-)
18:54.02ckknighthow's everyone doing?
18:54.04Nickenyfikenhey ckknight
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18:54.48ckknightNerrisa: how do I reproduce said 3d portrait flickering?
18:54.55Nickenyfikenckknight: i think hyperChipmunk want you to fix Tablet :-P
18:55.21ckknightart3mis: pong
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18:55.39Nerrisackknight
18:55.53NerrisaIs there a way to fix flickering 3d party portraits?
18:55.55Trancerckknight: maybe not relevant, but if one loaded PitBull with Healthbar and Banzai etc in subfolders and also loads PitBull_HealthBar and PitBull_Banzai as seperate addons, Healthbar registers twice and errors, this also causes Banzai to bug on HealthBar.db requests
18:56.14LywellynAlright, off to my parents for Father's Day.  Have a good one all!
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18:56.37ckknightTrancer: works for me
18:56.48ckknightNerrisa: I need to know how to reproduce it first.
18:56.55boobies4uckknight! yoyo
18:57.02kenlyrichyperChipmunk: deleting the SV seems to now be saving correctly. I'll keep an eye on it.
18:57.07Trancerhmm, might very well be because I was using two different versions, one most recent from wowaceupdater and 39408 with /console reloadui
18:57.16Matrix110ckk could you allow us to set the debuffs under the buffs if you have Growth direction up?
18:57.22Matrix110i know iam annoying:P
18:57.24boobies4ufinaly got my offhand from the badge of justices
18:57.25ckknightI dunno
18:57.29boobies4ubeen trough some traumatic groups
18:57.40CIA-2203ulic * r40394 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: Apparently I didn't commit the one with some boss code before, here it is now.
18:57.48ckknightMatrix110: I'll look into buff positioning later
18:57.53Matrix110thanks
18:58.43ulicckknight: some one said something about we shouldn't be running the latest version of PitBull?
18:59.03hyperChipmunkkenlyric: can you pastey your old sv?
18:59.24ckknightulic: I did
18:59.29ckknightulic: I also changed the topic
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18:59.46ulicah ha
19:00.20art3mismeh
19:00.28Nerrisackknight:  I happens when I have 3d portraits on and join/create a party after zoneing.
19:00.49art3misi just can't get into wow anymore
19:00.49NerrisaAlso many times the portrait likes to shift to full body
19:00.49ulicyea, I did get some crashes after I upgraded, but I wasn't sure it was PitBull, anything I can try to do to help track down the problem?
19:01.07ckknightNerrisa: okay, I'll check it out
19:01.16art3misit's lost its fun, that stupid 2.1 update added fuck all for entertainment value to solo players
19:01.16ckknightulic: wait until WoW 2.1.2
19:01.22ulichehe, ok
19:01.42kenlyrichyperChipmunk: I had the rules for the horde character in quite a while ago. http://ace.pastey.net/57034
19:01.45dodgizzlaCan somebody please add "Shadow Vulnerability" to the priests' buffs in PitBull?
19:01.53winkillerckknight: anything I could try to log for the flickering ToT I had? (if you remember)
19:01.58kenlyricthose saved and worked just fine, but hadn't updated them recently.
19:02.09ckknightwinkiller: no, not really
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19:02.31Punkie`ckknight: are you able to fix a threat-1.0 bug if i give you an error? :)
19:02.43ckknighteveryone needs to stop bothering me.
19:02.59ckknightI'm not your damn personal servant
19:03.00ckknightgah
19:03.01ulicsee what happens when you make something good :)
19:03.11Kaydeethreeckk; can you make me a sandwich?
19:03.40Punkie`need sandwich!
19:05.11Boviois it ok to ask questions about functionality of specific mods in here?  or is that frowned upon?
19:05.20Bovio<-- new to the channel
19:05.27Findodgizzla: Shadow Vulnerability is a debuff
19:05.36dodgizzlaFin: I meant debuff, sorry
19:05.39art3misbovio you can ask provided you can not get pissy if youre flatly told "fuck off" ;)
19:05.49Boviorofl, deal
19:05.54art3miserr do not
19:06.01dodgizzlaI just want it to be sorted first, where SW:P, VE and VT are :D
19:06.18art3mishrm so whats a fun game for me to play
19:06.25art3misrpg related and pc based
19:06.27Bovioso in that case.. can anyone tell me if there's a way in pitbull to have 2 of the same frame?  (like 2 player frames that are shown differently?)
19:06.54hyperChipmunkoho, that's a good question
19:06.55art3misbovio set the focus to yourself, i suppose and mod the focus frame?
19:07.10hyperChipmunkbut yea, only way I can see to do it is focus yourself
19:07.10Finart3mis: Oblivion?
19:07.21Boviobut i use focus for.. my focus >_<
19:07.26art3misfin: oh right i fergot about that game
19:07.38hyperChipmunkI'm trying to think of something roundabout that would come to be the same, but I can't
19:07.41art3misbovio: short answer would be don't think so ;P
19:07.51Kemayockknight: Can you get me a drink?
19:07.52hyperChipmunkunless you're in a raid group
19:07.55art3misyou can always just double the unitframes though
19:08.07Boviodouble the unitframes?
19:08.10Dustwhisperwhat's the /focus modifier:ctrl sheep focus again macro
19:08.11art3misie. load pitbull and perl(player only)
19:08.14abyssichateWhen I am recording something with Transcriptor, do I need to save the .lua file out of the directory, clear logs, start recording agian for every attempt or does it automatically append new stuff to the old recorded events?
19:08.31art3misit would be 2 diff views but i dont think without modding the focus you can do it within a single
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19:08.40hyperChipmunkhehe, change the directory, toc, and savedvar name
19:08.41Boviooh, yeah, currently i am using nurfed for my player+target frames, and pitbull to have another player frame that goes with my party frames
19:08.49ckknightBovio: there's no current way, mostly because I think it's pointless
19:08.49art3mishyperChipmunk: hah yeah or that
19:08.59ckknightBovio: oh, you just set "Show player with party"
19:09.00ckknighttada, done.
19:09.08ckknighttwo players.
19:09.09ckknightbam
19:09.21art3misckknight: custom frame!
19:09.26Bovio^
19:09.28Bovio:-p
19:09.40Boviobut there's an option for that?  i guess i was oblivous and didn't see it :(
19:09.44art3misyo do now! DI DI MAU!
19:09.46ckknightunder party
19:10.27Boviologgin on to check wow..  you may have just saved my life ckk :-p
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19:11.50ckknightwe'll get through this together, Timmy
19:11.51art3mishrm what other games aside from NWN2 and Oblivion?
19:11.53ckknightyou can fight the cancer
19:12.21art3misno you can't, cancer has like laser beam eyez and nucular missiles
19:12.24Chompers3 lair brutes hurt
19:12.40Chomperscurse you gruuls lair, its not meant to be this hard
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19:13.18Kaydeethree...every single week. we always get three brutes
19:13.24Kaydeethreebeyond annoying
19:13.31art3misbetter than 3 healers
19:13.33Chomperswipe 2 on them :/
19:13.35ckknightart3mis: you misspelled nukular
19:13.36AwaaIndeed :D
19:13.46art3misckknight: oops
19:14.49AwaaAnnying enough when theres 2 healers there. But i guess 3 brute can be an problem if you dont have 2 ppl that can pick them up.
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19:16.42art3mismust find new game to entertain me
19:16.54ckknightart3mis: I'm fond of Civ IV
19:17.35Boviockknight: when you do include "show player in party"..  that doesn't do anything about showing player-target in party-targets does it? :(
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19:18.06ckknightBovio: if you show party targets, it will show the player-in-party's target
19:18.08ckknightpets too
19:19.02vrakare there any addons for manually typing itemlinks?
19:19.18ckknightyes.
19:19.22FinLudwig
19:19.23Kaydeethreeas in typing [Troll Tears] and getting the link?
19:19.23ckknightKC_Items
19:19.31Daemonacan any1 lend me a hand with BigWigs_Debugger? how do i properly set the debugoutput frame?
19:19.56vrakmostly as in fishing the item id outta thott or wowhead or whatever and creating the link myself
19:19.57Boviockknight: thanks a bunch for your time!  exactly what i wanted
19:21.21Dustwhispersomeone hook me up with the focus sheep macro with ctrl as modifier key on cast
19:21.23Dustwhisperto set focus
19:22.23Finalso I'd like a six foot blonde and a large doner kebab
19:22.24Finta
19:22.28vrakah, windows, how i love thee and thine fucking retarded paging function
19:22.37kenlyricug, I can't find a PT set for cooking recipe mats.
19:22.56kenlyricshould Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession have subheadings.
19:23.37CIA-2203saroz * r40395 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Bloodlust for horde
19:27.10kenlyricvrak, I especially like when it fragments the paging file.
19:27.18kenlyricthat's *especially helpful*
19:27.46Daemonathats why i got used to setting up a 4gb partition on any new windows installation
19:27.53Daemonakinda like the linux swap partition ;)
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19:28.35vraki kinda like swapping out 500MB+ chunks when i'm using around half of my 2GB
19:29.05vrakit also seems especially fond of swapping out games
19:29.32Finah, y'see, if it didn't do that, it wouldn't be prepared for when it'll need that space
19:29.36Finit's just thinking ahead
19:29.42CIA-2203gandharva * r40396 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua:
19:29.42CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
19:29.42CIA-22KKT to TTK kthxbye!
19:29.57Daemona?
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19:30.06hyperChipmunktypo, i assume
19:30.49Trancerany omen developers about?
19:30.57vrakit's a bit too fond of that
19:30.59vraktbh
19:33.03NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: yes, Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession should have sub-categories.
19:35.09ckknightomg
19:35.13ckknightfound a big flaw in PitBull
19:35.22ckknightthat was probably causing tremendous lag in raids
19:35.31hyperChipmunkretarded author?
19:35.56Dustwhisper/focus [modifier:control] target
19:35.56Dustwhisper/cast [target=focus,exists] Polymorph
19:36.05Dustwhisperwhy does that not seem to work with ctrl+keybinding for that button
19:36.13Dustwhisperthe icon shows its being pressed but nothing happens
19:36.42kenlyricNightHawkTheSane: hmmm. it doesn't
19:36.43Dustwhispersomehow i screwed up all my macros on a reset =D
19:36.52BankZI wish SWS would disable when im not grouped
19:36.55ckknighthyperChipmunk: :-P
19:37.05abyssichateIs anyone else getting wrong class coloured bars in Omen while in combat?
19:37.07CIA-2203ckknight * r40397 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix a bug where some cluster childframes were mistakenly labelled as wacky frames.
19:37.12ckknightNerrisa: that fixes your bug
19:37.17NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: I had the same issue in BM, where certain PT3 sets wouldn't show their subcategories. NOt sure how to fix it though. :\
19:37.17Funkeh`ckknight: the timer on death, afk etc seems a little fast
19:37.36Funkeh`ckknight: it will go ok then skip 3 digits really quick rnadomly
19:37.43Funkeh`randomly*
19:37.49ckknightFunkeh`: nah, it's just perception, since it updates every 0.5 (or actually every 0.55), you can have it update every tick and then wait
19:38.03Funkeh`oh
19:38.08ckknightI _could_ make it update faster, but I frankly don't see it as being worth it.
19:38.12Finis it that you clearly don't understand how cpu profiling works, do not know how to benchmark anything, are devoid of intelligence, unworthy of common human respect accorded to most mammals larger than a cat, and like posting transparent fiction regarding other people's work to random places on the internet?
19:38.14Funkeh`nah
19:38.19ckknightmaybe I should just set it to be time-based...
19:38.23ckknightprobably easier overall.
19:38.51Finthat seems to be a common mistake addon authors are discovering recently
19:39.36Finso! who likes the colour yellow?
19:39.41FinI do!
19:39.47Finit's the colour of cheese
19:40.03NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's the colour of cheese.
19:40.09Finand cheese as everyone knows is one of the most fantastic things ever
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19:40.26NightHawkTheSanecheese IS fantastic.
19:40.27CIA-2203sylvanaar * r40398 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: hanler->reg_link.handler
19:40.56FinNightHawkTheSane: your mum
19:41.07NightHawkTheSaneyes, she's fantastic too.
19:42.02XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Kinky
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19:42.38FinI thought that was sylv fixing a type "hanler"
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19:44.22CIA-2203ckknight * r40399 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - for timers, switch to a different time-based counting system.
19:44.31ckknightFunkeh`: that should fix that issue
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19:48.57CIA-2203ckknight * r40400 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make AFK timer work for units that aren't in the visible range.
19:50.05dodgizzlackknight: Can you please add "Shadow Vulnerability" to Priests' enemy debuffs?
19:50.11ckknightyou do it
19:50.17ckknightI have bigger issues
19:50.28dodgizzlaDon't have an svn account :\
19:50.34ckknightwork on that
19:50.39dodgizzlaI see :>
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19:53.45Chompersno gruul kill this week, always next week i guess
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19:54.46nevcairielno instance reset yet, you still have time!
19:55.16Kenichihey can anyone tell me what happened to pitbull_estimatedheals addon it seems impossible to get a hold of ><;
19:55.40[dRaCo]get like 2k flasks and kill him by throwing them at him
19:55.43hyperChipmunkKenichi: it's part of pitbull now
19:55.46hyperChipmunklook in the modules menu
19:55.47[dRaCo]they work in gruul's lair.
19:55.48Chompersmost people work through the week so we only have the weekend for 25 mans
19:55.59Chomperseveryones flasked up as well :o
19:56.00Kenichioh thanks!
19:56.01hyperChipmunkoh maybe not
19:56.14Kenichino?
19:56.15hyperChipmunki'm not sure =)
19:56.19hyperChipmunkI don't see it
19:56.28ckknightKenichi: it is
19:56.28Fisker-so anyone with fileplanet accounts getting ET: Quake Wars?
19:56.29hyperChipmunkbut it's in there
19:56.33Fisker-next week :o
19:56.37Kenichialright thanks guys
19:56.38CIA-2203fin * r40401 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
19:56.38CIA-22PitBull
19:56.38CIA-22- added Shadow Vulnerability to list of Priest enemy debuffs
19:56.39Fisker-gonna be awesome
19:56.55hyperChipmunkit's there somewhere
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19:57.05hyperChipmunkthere's an EstimatedHeals subdir in PitBull
19:57.07Chomperspaying to test someones software, are you mad?
19:57.32Kenichii should be able to find it i just figured since i hadn't updated it with the most recent version it was just discontinued
19:57.34Fisker-i'm not paying for it :P
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19:57.43hyperChipmunknah, it was folded in
19:57.51hyperChipmunkbut i can't for the life of me find it in the menu
19:57.56hyperChipmunkmaybe not active for hunter
19:58.13Kenichi<druid
19:58.14hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
19:58.23hyperChipmunkcheck your modules =)
19:58.31Kenichik
20:01.38dodgizzlaFin: much <3 :>
20:03.31Kenichiwell the modules say its enabled
20:04.04Kenichibut i'm still not seeing the 'estimation' graphic of it
20:06.23hyperChipmunkmebee /rl
20:06.49hyperChipmunkother than that, i dunno; you'll have to track down someone who authors or uses it
20:07.10hyperChipmunknamely, that schmo over there
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20:10.52Kenichiwell i think i may have figured out the reason
20:11.04Kenichibut if i corrected that id run into a bigger problem
20:11.10Kenichii.e. unit frames not showing
20:11.23Kenichiunless something was tweaked in the most previous versions
20:12.12Kenichioriginally what i had done was updated pitbull and i may have retreated back to the older version i was using because nothing would show with the new version
20:13.02CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r52 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip -- Hopefully all bugs are fixed now. Should be 100% usable. Note that everything except basic formating and the "smooth border" are now removed from TinyTip. They'll all come back as modules in a separate addon.
20:14.29phyberare we sure that Violation's SWStats spying spys ALL SWStats data?
20:14.49phyberor is there a bug in SWS where it adds peoples data more than once?
20:15.01phybermy Violation spying SWS is really out of sync with SWS->SWS.
20:15.32phyber80k missing from a mage in the raid in Violation
20:16.18Sarozcan you change the high of the mana bar in aguf?
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20:21.24Matrix110phyber is he a Frost Mage?
20:21.33phybernot sure.
20:21.45Matrix110if he is its his(and other Frost mages) pet dmg missing
20:21.52Matrix110found out that bug aswell
20:22.03Matrix110Hunters got the same prob
20:22.04phyberah, interesting.
20:22.19Matrix1101 BM Hunter ranted at me because his 130k pet dmg was missing
20:23.41chutwigwhat's the best way to revert back to the older version of pitbull
20:23.48chutwigsince it's telling me about a crashy crash bug
20:24.23Kaydeethreefiles.wowace.com/PitBull
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20:26.04phyberwhat is the crash bug?  I'm in a raid right now and so far nothing happened.
20:26.12phyberbut I don't use the pitbull party/raid frames in raid.
20:26.13Matrix110phyber it doesnt happen for all people
20:26.16Matrix110some underline cause does it
20:26.27chutwigjust said it'll be fixed in 2.1.2 and didn't elaborate
20:26.46chutwigand being that the mac version likes to crash of its own accord without outside help
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20:32.21break19chutwig: I can make my mac client crash on command... all I gotta do is use uab and try to set it up.. bzzzt, down she goes.
20:32.32chutwigbreak19: i just look at it funny and it explodes
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20:32.54break19chutwig: i dont quite have *that* problem... but it doesnt like unitactionbars
20:33.19chutwigmine used to crash every time i logged out on a character
20:33.45break19chutwig: mine didnt actually *crash* but I did get the error reporter window, but that hasnt happened since 2.0
20:33.51chutwigyeah
20:33.57chutwigthat got fixed in 2.1 for me
20:34.07chutwigand then they added several other bugs, but i guess that's business as usual
20:34.09break19errr yea 2.1
20:34.25NightHawkTheSaneOddly, i've almost never had my client crash on my mac.
20:34.43break19but using unit action bars addon, causes the whole game to quit to the desktop
20:34.45NightHawkTheSaneThough, It just did today, but that was easily narrowed down to Cartographer_Heatmap
20:34.53break19heatmap?
20:34.57NightHawkTheSaneyeah
20:35.06AKXUmm, yeah, NightHawkTheSane, I thought it might.
20:35.09break19war games now?
20:35.11hyperChipmunklol
20:35.11AKXCreating 50x50 textures...
20:35.31NightHawkTheSaneAKX: well you suck.
20:35.35HjalteI need some help; When Lurker does Geyser to our MT, our melee is getting killed because the MT is not there to tank. What can we do?
20:35.40AKXLove you too, NightHawkTheSane.
20:35.40break19"load heat and fire at will" poor will... always gettin shot at.
20:35.59Matrix110having another mt who is near when the mt gets Geyser?
20:36.23break19who maintains cart_trainers?
20:36.48break19its showing an opt-dep of gratuity-2.0, when it should be gratuitylib
20:37.08HjalteMatrix110, our OT says he can't build enough rage to be over the rogues in threat
20:37.12Matrix110Quote from the 1st Google Hit: "When The Lurker spawns the MT must be in position and grab aggro on him right away. You need to have the Off Tank 2nd on aggro, or when the Lurker does his Whirl and knocks back the MT out of melee range, he will attack the next target on his aggro list."
20:37.22Matrix110Then your OT sucks:P
20:37.25Gagorianbloody deadly blossmod
20:37.27Gagorian*s
20:37.39Gagoriana raid member always whispers me LVBM REQBARS at start and end of BG
20:37.55Matrix110Report him for Spam
20:38.30dodgizzlaIn DogTag, when I use MissingThreat, I sometimes get reaaaally long values, something like "12355.33333333333333333333333333333" which then overlaps with my mana :o I tried Short and VeryShort, but then ":Negate" does not work :\
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20:41.27Tornhoofthreatlib is missing a format function, i noticed that too
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20:42.48break19wondermous.. absofrickinlutely wondermous.
20:43.08break19i got mucho problemos
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20:44.08ckknightdodgizzla: :Round
20:44.33ckknightdodgizzla: I'll make it rounded to 1 digit, though, automatically
20:45.02CIA-2203ckknight * r40402 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove doublefrees.
20:45.33Chompers3 critical wow errors in arena :S
20:45.41Adirelledoes anyone have performance issue with TTK ?
20:45.44break19something broke prat :/
20:45.47Kaydeethreebah. pitbull 39408's and new omen's threat don't play nicely.
20:46.02break19or, prat broke itself.. one or the other.
20:46.08AKXOkay, so HeatMap does something horribly wrong memory-wise...
20:47.07CIA-2203ckknight * r40403 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - round Threat to the ones' place.
20:47.19ckknightKaydeethree: don't run embedded
20:47.48dodgizzlackknight: I see, thanks
20:48.11Peoiickknight: Manually unembedding ftl :P
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20:48.44Kaydeethreemeh. I just symlinked pitbull's threat-1.0 to omen's
20:48.45CIA-2203thrae * r40404 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc): TinyTip: TinyTip has been moved to http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/, and will no longer be supported on this repository.
20:49.16Silviu-;)
20:49.23CIA-2203ckknight * r40405 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make Short and VeryShort round to the ones' place.
20:49.29ckknightKaydeethree: that works
20:49.31CIA-2203thrae * r40406 10TinyTip/ (10 files): TinyTip: Delete unused files.
20:49.43Silviu-Dongle inc ? ;)
20:49.55ckknightThrae: how come?
20:50.10break19uhh, ck? why is pitbull not finding dogtag-1.0? I know its there and enabled.....
20:50.15hyperChipmunkyou can dongle on svn.wowace.com
20:50.20hyperChipmunkit's not against the rulez
20:50.22ckknightbecause you didn't install it properly
20:50.44break19lol i never uninstalled it.. and it was workin last night. :)
20:50.50ckknightyea, non-ace mods are fine on the svn, as long as the "spirit" is kept, basically
20:51.23ThraeI'm just a bastard that wants to use his own SVN, and can't keep both updated, because I'm also a lazy bastard.
20:51.25nevcairielthat reminds me, i wanted to try a mod without ace just for the practice
20:51.40Silviu-~seen Antiarc
20:52.01purlantiarc <n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 48m 3s ago, saying: 'I need to sleep, but more tomorrow!'.
20:52.01mikmaThrae: bastard.
20:52.01birdetinytip is gone from wowace?
20:52.01break19[2007/06/17 15:48:20-980-x1]: Prat\Prat.lua:41: attempt to call global 'GetPratUtils' (a nil value)
20:52.05break19all *kinds* of errors since I updated....
20:52.17Silviu-Thrae is it usable now ?
20:52.19ckknightsomeone had suggested that I write a tooltip mod
20:52.53hyperChipmunkThrae: Fetching external item into 'TinyTipExtras/TipLib-1.0'
20:52.53hyperChipmunkAuthentication realm: <https://thrae-wow.googlecode.com:443> Google Code Subversion Repository
20:52.56hyperChipmunkPassword for 'staharaj':
20:53.13NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: use just http, not https?
20:53.20hyperChipmunki was
20:53.22Chompersfatal wow error every time we leave an arena, is that linked to the pitbull problem?
20:53.33ThraehyperChipmunk: TinyTipExtras and TinyTipOptions are both going to be rewritten, and are not supported with the newer version of TinyTip.
20:53.45ckknightChompers: very likely.
20:53.46CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r53 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Oops, db is a local value.
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20:53.54ckknightChompers: if by PitBull problem you mean Blizzard's problem
20:53.57hyperChipmunkNightHawkTheSane: the external is https
20:54.01ckknightChompers: which PitBull brings to light
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20:54.15NightHawkTheSaneahh
20:55.05Thraeckknight: What, you're going to make your own Ace(tm) Tooltip Mod just to spite my lack of WoWAce SVN usage? :D
20:55.15ckknightno
20:55.16ckknightno
20:55.17ckknightnot that
20:55.22hyperChipmunkgood enough reason for me
20:55.22ckknightjust someone suggested it
20:55.29ckknightbut yea, it might happen
20:55.39hyperChipmunki can't fix bugs in your repo
20:55.41ckknightI'll name it something crazy and not tooltip related
20:55.47ckknightI'm thinking Gazelle
20:56.02NightHawkTheSaneAs an aside, a tag-based tooltip mod in the spirit of Aloft might be interesting
20:56.03dacoffeycan't you hook a svn submit to mirror a commit to another svn repo?
20:56.06ckknightand I'm also thinking that it's viable to have DogTag-1.0 support
20:56.14vrakWAU is pretty handy tbh, and i for one don't want to go back to checking 34623 different addon sites every day
20:56.17ckknightNightHawkTheSane: since it's unit-based, I'd go with DogTag-1.0, likely
20:56.34Thraedacoffey: That wouldn't work with the zips and WAU.
20:56.42dacoffeyoh
20:56.59break19ok. I'm wondering if my filesystem is fubared again.. it would certainly explain my problems.. lemme check
20:57.31CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r54 10/ (trunk/TinyTipExtras branches/TinyTipExtras): TinyTipExtras: Moved to branches, as this is deprecated.
20:57.31CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r55 10/ (branches/TinyTipOptions trunk/TinyTipOptions): TinyTipOptions: Moved remotely to branches, as this is now deprecated.
20:57.32NightHawkTheSaneckknight: eh, thats not quite what i meant, and it probably doesn't matter which tag library is used :P
20:57.49ckknightyea
20:58.32hyperChipmunkThrae: where's the options then?
20:59.49break19filesystem checks out.. i wonder if virex is screwin with stuff.. lemme remove it.
20:59.57ThraehyperChipmunk: TinyTipCoreModules, an addon I hope to get finished by the end of today. It contains support for saved user profiles, slash commands, and advanced skinning.
21:00.32hyperChipmunkwtf did you delete the svn.wowace.com then =\
21:01.11ThraeBecause that version was unstable since 2.0.
21:01.25CIA-2203cryect * r40407 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua:
21:01.25CIA-22GraphLib - Real-time graphs now can have Y Labels as well
21:01.25CIA-22-:SetGridSecondaryMultiple(XAxis,YAxis) this sets the multiple factor for
21:01.25CIA-22determining if a grid line is secondary or not (if mod(lineNum,multiple)==0 then
21:01.25CIA-22primary else secondary) Secondary lines have the secondary color set and don't
21:01.25CIA-22get text labels
21:01.27CIA-22-:SetGridColorSecondary({R,G,B,A}) is added to graphs that can have grid lines and this is the color for the secondary grid lines
21:01.32Funkeh`CIA is reporting 2 repositorys now?
21:01.36Funkeh`confusing
21:01.39hyperChipmunkwfm; now i'm gonna get svn errors >8\
21:02.01Cryectwell it tells you which one its reporting for
21:02.08ThraeI didn't delete TinyTip from the svn proper, I replaced it with an addon which nags you to go to my SVN repository ;)
21:02.18hyperChipmunkwow thx
21:02.31abyssichatewe will find the future versions of tinytips on http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/downloads/list then?
21:02.42Funkeh`Thrae: whats wrong with the wowace svn?
21:03.05Thraeabyssichate: When it's released, yes. I hope to get it release-ready by the end of the week. Until then, you can use the SVN.
21:03.16abyssichateAlrighty
21:03.35hyperChipmunkFunkeh`: he wants to be of teh lame
21:03.40Funkeh`Thrae: ?
21:03.43ThraeFunkeh`: Mmm, I like my own little SVN.
21:04.02liquiemvery sad for wau user :/
21:04.04CIA-2203cryect * r40408 10Recount/GUI_Realtime.lua:
21:04.04CIA-22Recount - Autoadjusts grid spacing on real-time graphs
21:04.04CIA-22-Enables Y Labels for real-time graphs
21:04.04CIA-22-And smoothly adjusts the secondary line color as it adjust the grid spacing on real-time graphs
21:04.15hyperChipmunki.e. i like screwin' lotsa ppl over hehe
21:04.34Funkeh`Thrae: right, the only thing that will result in is a much lower amount of users, you won't be able to take advantage of WAU for example, and the result will be a new wowace tooltip mod
21:04.43liquiemor there will be a master file with all registered addons and there location
21:04.47hyperChipmunkLF new ttip mod
21:04.57nekohBigWigs error when activating Al
21:04.59dodgizzla[2007/06/17 23:04:25-1287-x1]: DogTag-1.0-40405 (DogTag-1.0):3066: attempt to index local 'possibleReturns' (a nil value)
21:05.03dodgizzlaAyeeeee mucho error :D
21:05.04Funkeh`Thrae: take a look at haste for example
21:05.13nekohBigWigs error when activating Al'ar module: http://ace.pastey.net/57035
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21:06.04Funkeh`Thrae: i mean its your choice ofc, but the only result will be negatice effects for you
21:06.13Funkeh`less users, less bugs fixed etc, lower popularity
21:06.29hyperChipmunkno help, either
21:06.37Cryecthaha
21:06.47CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r56 10/ (trunk/TipLib branches/TipLib): TipLib: I don't know what the hell I was thinking when I wrote this. It's now in branches for posterity.
21:07.06hyperChipmunki've made more than a few commits to TinyTip in the past
21:07.08CIA-2203funkydude * r40409 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: bugfix
21:07.20Funkeh`nekoh: fixed
21:07.34nekohty
21:07.40ThraeFunkeh`: I also hope to make a very simple batch/script for SVN updates. It'll iterate through all your directories and check your listed SVNs for updates.
21:07.41hasteFunkeh`: I find the situation better, so I see no problem in it
21:07.54kbhso every time someone links an item whatever item i have up closes and its getting annoying
21:08.31Funkeh`Thrae: it still doesn't beat the easy of use that the ace svn updaters offer
21:09.14nevcairielits his choice, just let him .. i will still continue to use tinytip .. just change my svn checkout :)
21:09.37Tupsi3472nymbia : here?
21:09.40ckknightnevcairiel: until I force you to switch to Gazelle, that is
21:10.07Tupsithere is still that "create all" first time only creates two bug in manufac
21:10.10ckknight:-P
21:10.12ThraeFunkeh`: I've asked Kaelten if WAU could support other SVNs...
21:10.20Tupsidont think i mentioned it so far though
21:10.39ThraeWAU 2.0 will hopefully.
21:10.44SaisTupsi: I've had it where it's actually made everythign I asked for the first time - but only once or twice
21:10.57Sais...and it's been mentioned before in here
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21:11.06break19and, hopefully, wau 2.0 will run on mono :p
21:11.20CIA-2203Leialyn * r40410 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kael'thas: updated deDE and removed chaotic temperament
21:11.23ckknightbreak19: Java
21:11.27Tupsiahh ok
21:11.40Tupsiits not really a playstoper, just tiny annoying
21:12.14durcynfiles.wowace.com is not necessarily tied to a single repository, it'd be simple enough to add googlecode projects to it.
21:12.32durcyni suspect the rest is political
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21:13.04hyperChipmunkit's okay
21:13.35Kaydeethreejust don't bend your fork()
21:13.44break19hyperChipmunk: fork the hell out of it
21:13.59ThraehyperChipmunk: About your earlier comments...I'd rather cooperate then "compete", but you're welcome to use all of TinyTip's code with credit, just not the name. Honestly, I don't see the need to branch TinyTip just to keep it on wowace SVN.
21:14.35hyperChipmunknaw, i just don't want to do all the hard work making a new one from scratch >8p
21:14.39break19fuckin shit.
21:14.57break19now MOST of my addons arent loading.. I guess its time for a wtf wipe
21:15.07SaisOh, there are a couple of other things with Manufac that annoy me - or at least have done; not sure I was running the latest - just did an update, although I'm not sure that was in the list. Things like it not updating the level correctly, or generally updating the windows while they are open
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21:15.42ThraehyperChipmunk: Which is what I just basically did with the new version ;) The old version was getting away from the "Tiny" in TinyTip. The newer version will keep to the original philosophy. I'm even thinking of removing Dongle from TinyTip proper.
21:15.42hyperChipmunkace mkdir TinierTip
21:16.11ThraeSince it doesn't need most of its functions anyway...
21:16.15Tupsisais its messing with characterprofilder if your using that as well
21:16.47hyperChipmunkhonestly, i don't mind you goin' to a diff svn; makes no diff to me except the inability to lend you a hand
21:17.04hyperChipmunkbut deleting the old before the new is usable is really annoying
21:17.09SaisNo, but it used to cause problems with Jigsaw, too. I think that seems to have been resolved now, though.
21:17.44break19geezus. even a wtf wipe didnt fix it
21:18.07dodgizzlabreak19: Yeah, maybe the addons are broken:D
21:18.10Peoiibreak19: swear at it more, it'll fix it.
21:18.12Kergoth"inability to lend you a hand" .. please.  if you have a google account you can get write access to his svn if he chooses to give it to you
21:18.14break19WTF!@! I just found the problem
21:18.18break19and I blame Kemayo
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21:18.42chuckg"diff" and "patch" don't exist either.
21:19.00break19his update script decided to comment out every single line in all my tocs
21:19.05Thraechuckg, Kergoth: Be nice. I'm not "fighting" wowace here.
21:19.06Kergothapparently
21:19.13chuckgI was nice!
21:19.15hyperChipmunkyea, but that's not really worth it
21:19.32Kergothi have write access to like 15 svns.  its not exactly difficult to manage
21:20.05Mech0zanyone know if you need Ora2 to get MTs set by ora in Pitbull?
21:20.11chuckgBut hc is making it sound like you've made it implausible for him to fix a bug in your code and the the reality is, he can regardless of where it's hosted on SVN.  Someone really interested in helping "improve" code would help fix it irregardless of where it's hosted.
21:20.21hyperChipmunkjust sayin' that when he was starting out, i made a number of bugfix commits for him; had they been on a different repo, i wouldn't have bothered
21:21.03PeoiiSo hey, how bout them Seahawks?
21:21.29hyperChipmunkthat's one thing I value about the wowace svn; I know there's a bunch of good, trustworthy ppl who will fix my mistakes if i suck too much =)
21:21.50ThraeI've uploaded patches for people on WoWI, too.
21:21.50ckknightyes, Mech0z
21:21.59chuckgWhat's the saying ..
21:22.00hyperChipmunkand those who kept my addons breathing while i was gone for 6 months or so
21:22.17Kergothwell, that only works so far, considering a bunch of individuals have locked down their ace addon dirs, and others bitch and moan if you touch their code but havent yet locked them down..
21:22.19chuckg"If the world were built by programmers, one gust of wind would knock it over" ?
21:22.19Mech0zckknight :( I dont want ora just for that :/
21:22.21chuckgSomething like that..
21:22.32kenlyricI somehow missed part of this conversation... tinytip got deleted?
21:22.37ckknightMech0z: I'm not going to add more support into PitBull. Out of scope
21:22.38ckknightyes, Kenichi
21:22.41ckknightkenlyric*
21:22.45Kergoththrae's hosting the new tinytip on his google code repo
21:22.53chuckgBASTARD.
21:22.53Mech0zok
21:22.56kenlyricwoopdie doo
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21:23.02ckknightKergoth: you're capitalized...
21:23.06ckknightwhat have you become?
21:23.12hyperChipmunklol i was wondering about that too
21:23.18Kergothyeah.. my irc proxy went kablooey, and my account name on this windows box is capitalized
21:23.20ckknighthave you forgotten all your values?
21:23.20Kergothi keep forgetting to change it
21:23.22hyperChipmunkand wtf, i wish more ppl would hack on my code
21:23.31stylingThere  other layout for pitbull?
21:23.36hyperChipmunkless work for me, and it's probably better code, too
21:23.58Peoiioh hey speaking of.... I installed bulkmail2... time to go break it.
21:24.05hyperChipmunkPeoii: excellent
21:24.05kenlyricdoes wowi make non embedded versions available for ace mods?
21:24.17kergoth<3 bulkmail2{,inbox}
21:24.17durcynkenlyric: it's whatever the author uploads
21:24.19ckknightstyling: just use ABF.
21:24.21breaK19hmm. i think i like it a different way..
21:24.21JoshBorkekenlyric: wowi is released as the author intends
21:24.26PeoiihyperChipmunk: Holy shit
21:24.27ckknightstyling: and edit it
21:24.45ThraehyperChipmunk: I'm not sure about the commitment of someone who can't just use another medium of development hosting ;)
21:24.51PeoiihyperChipmunk: Ok, so maybe seeing ALL of my mail is a bad thing... considering I use it as a 2nd 3rd and 4th bank... :/
21:25.04hyperChipmunkPeoii: but that's the point!
21:25.06ckknighthyperChipmunk: in most cases, it's _easier_ for me to hack other people's code than to write from scratch (e.g. Threat-1.0)
21:25.17Peoiidude, I've got a years supply of raiding materials in there :P
21:25.19hyperChipmunkclick the header to sort columns
21:25.23hyperChipmunkyou can't have more than 50
21:25.29ThraehyperChipmunk: If you want SVN access, you're welcome to it...\
21:25.34hyperChipmunka little sorting goes a long way
21:25.42hyperChipmunkThrae: nah, like i said, not really a big deal
21:25.47Thraeckknight can have it too
21:25.51ThraeSVN access for everyone!
21:25.55ckknighthoorays!
21:26.03chuckgMe too.
21:26.15chuckgI want to code in a "Thank you Jesus" message.
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21:27.03[dRaCo]I want svn access, too. Gotta remove that message.
21:27.09nevcairielhehe
21:27.23PeoiihyperChipmunk: ok, suggestion... would there be a way to make it a tree-based layout? By which my 20 mails of "Superior Wizard Oil" could be collapsed into 1 listing, expandable only when I choose?
21:27.24chuckgDisbelievers shall burn for eternity.
21:27.40hyperChipmunkPeoii: code it up >8D
21:27.51PeoiihyperChipmunk: doh! knew that was coming.... h8.
21:28.06hyperChipmunkI'll give it some thought
21:28.08kenlyricneat... it's not actually deleted.
21:28.15break19|91kaerbcan I have it too? all I'll add is funny comments throughout the code "-- break19 was here" or maybe "-- tinytip + 18 wheeler = multitips" heh
21:28.37[dRaCo]... violence is the path to the dark side.
21:28.44[dRaCo]or something like that.
21:28.47Tornhoofi like violence
21:29.02[dRaCo]why?
21:29.04hyperChipmunkkenlyric: 17:02 < Thrae> I didn't delete TinyTip from the svn proper, I replaced it with an addon which nags you to go to my SVN repository ;)
21:29.09Peoiicause yea, my inbox is nothing but fish and oil.
21:29.15Tornhoofdark side > *
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21:30.09kenlyricbah, now I have compare tooltip mods!
21:30.10[dRaCo]Join the dark side, we've got cookies.
21:30.17kenlyricdun like work.
21:30.50ckknight[dRaCo]: what kind?
21:30.53Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182115807160.jpg
21:30.54Fisker-hahah
21:31.15[dRaCo]chocolate chip
21:31.27kenlyricFisker-: guess that makes sense in your locality?
21:31.56Fisker-i guess you mean reality
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21:32.05Fisker-you don't watch Doctor Who? :(
21:32.29ckknight[dRaCo]: I want mint
21:32.37kenlyrictoo lazy to torrent it.
21:32.44Gngskshould I make a preemptive, "Omg where's TinyTip" post on the forums?
21:32.52dodgizzlathere already is one..
21:32.56Gngskdamn.
21:33.18dodgizzlaactually it's more a "zomgs what r teh happening"
21:33.34birdethrae
21:33.45birdeso i just need the tiny tip folder, no more other folders?
21:33.48[dRaCo]ckk: gotta check that with the emperor, gimme a moment.
21:34.09Thraebirde: The other folder names will change, so yes. You can delete the other addons.
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21:34.46Thraebirde: TinyTip only has the core functionality included right now, since I'm rewriting from mostly scratch.
21:34.53birdewill it work like it was ? i cna wait for an updated version
21:35.00liquiemincluding raid icons and such?
21:35.14birdeugh, need to find old version then, liked it the way it was, wish i didnt update now
21:35.16aen`HAHAHA, have u guys heard this? http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/6/0/16060e7494731141dfb39f517de33407.mp3
21:35.18birdeforce of habit
21:35.22kenlyricwait, you don't even have a working replacement?
21:35.34Thraebirde: Yes
21:35.46Thraekenlyric: It works, just not the same.
21:35.52Mikkhuhu.. can someone branch off tinytip and call it something else then? >.<
21:36.10liquiemthat's bad. you could at least have had the old version leave on svn until new rewriten ttip is out
21:36.20birdeya, i liked tinytip the way it was workign yesterday
21:36.25JoshBorkeor he could do what he wants with the mod he wrote?
21:36.39kenlyricI could care less about what it displays. Can it move where the tooltip is attached to?
21:36.41MikkOk.. wtb new name
21:36.43birdeand i would like an older version handy with full functionality in the mean time
21:36.45MikkBloatyTip? =P
21:36.56CIA-2203cryect * r40411 10Recount/ (GUI_Realtime.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua):
21:36.56CIA-22Recount - Can now track threat in real-time windows
21:36.56CIA-22-Can now have multiple real-time windows tracking the same stat for the same person
21:36.56kenlyricJoshBorke: sure, just like Kenco
21:36.58JoshBorkeMikk:  obviously it will be named AceTip
21:37.01MikkNotSoTinyTip?
21:37.01toddinstall the old one and make a .svn folder.. problem solved :P
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21:37.12Mikkahhhh cheers todd
21:38.30dodgizzlaSomeoneSetUsUpTheTip
21:38.41vhaarrThrae: So the TinyTip on your google SVN is not in a working state?
21:38.55JoshBorkekenlyric: what do you mean just like kenco?  how is this situation similar.  please enlighten me.  my understanding of the kenco situation is thus:  random user X posts "i see KLHTM using lots of cpu" (or something to that effect).  other people look into it and find similar results.  still more people look into it and see that he's doing horrible stuff.  messages get posted on the thread, kenco gets defensive, everyone pulls out their d
21:39.18JoshBorkesomewhere in there the idea to write an Ace based threat solution is born and Threat-1.0 is created
21:39.23MikkTipGnome?
21:39.34Fisker-GnomeTipping
21:39.42JoshBorkeFisker-: winnah
21:39.43MikkMoreTips
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21:39.57liquiemgnometip sounds like a "bar" addon
21:39.57Mikkgnomes are punted, not tipped
21:40.09Fisker-but what about stripping gnomes? :(
21:40.16Mikkyuck
21:40.20Mikkjust yuck
21:40.21JoshBorkeCowTip?
21:40.27PeoiiI swear, I'm gonna write an addon that'll automagically kill you everytime you walk forward if you're not a gnome... diaf you gnome hating bastards.
21:40.41JoshBorkeit insinuates bloatedness while not being specific
21:41.01trh_gnomes.... ah.. those thing my owl eats for breakfast :)
21:41.05kenlyricPeoii: who would install that addon?
21:41.10kenlyriccall it "keyboard logger"
21:41.18JoshBorkekenlyric: just put it in fubar
21:41.30MikkNotSoTinyTip, seriously :P
21:41.36CIA-2203thrae * r40412 10TinyTip/: TinyTip: bye-bye
21:41.37PeoiiNah, I'd just call it something sneaky like "KLHTM CPU FIXER"
21:41.51Peoiicause I'm evil like that...
21:42.11Mikkthat one exists
21:42.12JoshBorkePeoii: but i thought antiarc already wrote that
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21:42.19Peoiimeh
21:42.25Peoiiit was simply an example ;)
21:42.33kenlyricgod, these mod websites are designed my monkeys.
21:42.35PeoiiIf I wanted to let you in on my actual scheme, I'd have to kill you.
21:42.36birdeok,what is the slash command for the new tinytip? /ttip isnt working
21:42.58Mikkfine.. here it comes
21:43.01Kemayobreak19|91kaerb: This is what you get for using SVN version of scripts!
21:43.18Kemayobreak19|91kaerb: Seriously, though, which addon, and what OS are you on?
21:43.30ThraeI fail at using wowace's SVN...you can all revert TinyTip on the SVN back to the old version if you want
21:43.44Sarozthrae * r40412 TinyTip/: TinyTip: bye-bye
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21:43.45SarozWHAT
21:43.47SarozWHAA
21:43.57birdethrae: what is the slash command now on your new version that is on your svn?
21:43.57Saroznooooooooooooooooooo
21:44.01Mikkhe's remaking tinytip to be actually tiny
21:44.04birdebecausse /ttip isnt working
21:44.07kenlyricso, do I go back to tooltip wrangler? do I dare?
21:44.08Sarozah PHEW
21:44.09Mikkbut inviting others to keep maintaining the old one under a new name
21:44.14Thraebirde: I haven't added that yet
21:44.22Mikknow i just need a name
21:44.32birdeis there a way to move it at all? its sitting over my chat window
21:44.39kenlyricnice, not updated since 2005. who the hell runs wowi? so I can go beat them senseless?
21:44.43GngskTinyRip
21:44.48MikkHAHAHAHAHAHA
21:44.55MikkI'm liking it =P
21:45.01Sarozlol
21:45.20SarozI'm keeping my TinyTip
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21:45.30Mikkunfortunately it's useless for new users =(
21:45.41JoshBorkeRipTip?
21:45.45vhaarrI assumed that the one in google SVN was actually usable, since Thrae advertised it in the commit, so I already deleted my copy.
21:45.53vhaarrSaroz: Care to commit it again?
21:46.11birdeis there a url to old commits then?i would like to get an older version of tinytip since this one cant be modified yet
21:46.24Mikkhttp://files.wowace.com/TinyTip/
21:46.52ThraeLook, if I knew how to revert TinyTip back to the older version on the wowace SVN, I'd do it.
21:46.59ThraeIf anyone knows how, please do so.
21:47.21birdemikk, that addy doesnt work
21:47.34Mikkworks just fine for me
21:47.39liquiembirde, it works for me
21:47.52birdeodd, got it to work now
21:48.01kenlyricthe only useful thing I get out of a tooltip mod is being able to reposition it. Just need a mod that does that.
21:48.02CIA-2203adirelle * r40413 10ThreatToKTM/ (FuBarPlugin.lua ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc):
21:48.02CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
21:48.02CIA-22- FuBarPlugin moved to its own file, you can disable it by commenting the .toc entry,
21:48.02CIA-22- removed active probe,
21:48.02CIA-22- now records pure KTM user versions.
21:48.54Thraekenlyric: TinyTipCoreModules will be independant of TinyTip and includes repositioning, along with the database and slash commands.
21:49.10durcynok, so go code it before you nuke the old one.
21:49.21Sarozvhaarr, want me to add it back?
21:49.22JoshBorkethrae: what revision did you delete it?
21:49.29durcyn37051 works.
21:49.45liquiemChangelog-TinyTipOptions-r37156.txt looks like the latest version
21:49.53liquiemeh
21:49.58liquiem37051 ^^
21:50.57kenlyricwe should all just calm down. Just remember oCB and then look at quartz :)
21:51.17durcynstill, adhering to the principle of least astonishment would make for a smoother transition.
21:51.17dodgizzlaSo that means
21:51.23dodgizzlaQuartz_Tooltip?
21:51.27hyperChipmunkwell, there will be a new one soon
21:51.28CIA-2203ckknight * r40414 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - account for every single table creation, fix memory leaks.
21:51.28Saroznymbia is making a tooltip mod?
21:51.29SarozYAY!
21:51.29chuckgoCB still owns.
21:51.37SarozoCB is legacy code, gogo :p
21:51.38chuckgThe version from 2 years ago.
21:51.42hyperChipmunkbut in the meantime, i'd prefer if my current one wasn't broken
21:51.44dodgizzlaI knew it! Quartz will annihilate all other addons!
21:51.48kenlyricowns a shack down by the river.
21:51.51liquiemhmm, that's not the point. but remove ttip without a working version on other repo is really strange
21:51.56Kaeltenhttp://www.b3ta.com/links/How_fire_reacts_to_soundwaves
21:52.06hyperChipmunkbreaking everybody's addons because you changed repos is not good practice
21:52.10MikkCHILL GUYS, WE'RE GETTING TINYTIP BACK ON THE ACE SVN
21:52.14MikkCHILL GUYS, WE'RE GETTING TINYTIP BACK ON THE ACE SVN
21:52.16JoshBorkeKaelten: everyone knows that sound puts out fires
21:52.18Sarozwant me to recommit it?
21:52.20Fisker-CHILL GUYS, WE'RE GETTING TINYTIP BACK ON THE ACE SVN
21:52.23dodgizzlaI want my Quartz_Tooltip! :P
21:52.25JoshBorkeSaroz: yes
21:52.29KaeltenJoshBorke: go look at it
21:52.30JoshBorkeSaroz: thrae has already said so
21:52.36ThraeSaroz: Go ahead, I'm getting damn eol-style errors.
21:52.38Kaeltenits not what you're thinking
21:52.52Mikkyeah, you have to add an empty folder first
21:52.52kenlyricis it from mythbusters?
21:52.56kenlyriccause I saw that one.
21:52.59Mikkso you can set attribs on it
21:53.02liquiemthat's old kaelten
21:53.07Mikkcan't import whole dirs
21:53.10Kaeltenfirst time I'd seen it
21:53.11CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r40415 10TinyTip/:
21:53.11CIA-22TinyTip:
21:53.11CIA-22- restoring tinytip dir
21:53.52CAL|SMeltnuhhh
21:54.02dodgizzlafunky fire stuff
21:54.02CAL|SMeltnlmao Fisker
21:54.20CAL|SMeltnI just logged in and got the tinytip error and was coming here to just ask about it
21:54.24CAL|SMeltnand seen your spam
21:54.34JoshBorkethat's pretty cool
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21:55.44ckknightcool, Kaelten
21:56.35liquiemckknight, is there a blog/forum post about the recent blizzard issue that you discovered with pitbull?
21:56.50ckknightI posted some stuff on the wow forum
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21:56.54ckknightnothing came of it
21:57.04ckknightliquiem: basically, you just gotta wait for WoW 2.1.2
21:57.28JoshBorkeckknight: could you branch the conflicting code while we wait on 2.1.2?
21:57.33liquiemckknight, i wonder if the crashes happen for everyone or just under special conditions
21:57.37ckknightJoshBorke: no
21:58.13kenlyricis there a mod (or even a way) to make enchanting the same item 30 times a bit faster?
21:58.15ckknightliquiem: it happens non-consistently when party changes
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21:58.46liquiemcall/dismiss our pet is considered partychange i guess
21:59.00ckknightpossible
21:59.14kergothkenlyric, tek's Panda addon fixes autoloot for de/prospect.. he said he got it from gfw, so i presume one of his addons does it too
21:59.21kergothoh, you said enchant, not dis.. i'm blind
21:59.26kergoththere is an addon for that.. let me try to remember what it was
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21:59.42TekkubGFW DE Pred has it
21:59.51Tekkubtho mine does prospecting tew
22:00.07kenlyricwell, that would be another good thing to get :)
22:02.09Matrix110Tekkub can you add: 32617, 32622, 32616 to CorkFu? (They are pets)
22:02.43Matrix110no i cant do it myself:P
22:03.28kenlyricTekkub: what's your mod called, and where do I find it if it's not wowi?
22:05.00CIA-2203thrae * r40416 10TinyTip/ (19 files in 4 dirs): TinyTip: Reverted. (wowace)
22:06.57liquiembah, im looking for a mod that fades custom defined patterns into your hud.. something with aura
22:08.06TheKarnanyone know of a standalone (or addon) regex tester that uses LUA's syntax?
22:08.06krkaTheKarn: Lua is not an acronym.
22:08.18TheKarnmy bad
22:08.37liquiemi had it some time ago and saw it on nihilum's ilidan movie and now i want to play with it again
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22:09.06hyperChipmunkPower Auras?
22:09.20hyperChipmunknot sure if that works anymore
22:09.44kenlyricyay! new spiffworld JC video
22:09.49liquiemah yes, power auras
22:10.05kenlyricgod, for two weeks. Where have I been?
22:10.15liquiemlast updated 5 months ago, hmm
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22:11.03CIA-2203toadkiller * r40417 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:11.03CIA-22PeriodicTable-3.0:
22:11.03CIA-22-- 11562:670 Ungoro Restore, 11951:800 Whipper Root, 11952:425 Night Dragon's Breath
22:11.03CIA-22-- 19183 Hourglass Sand
22:11.03CIA-22-- Consumable.Buff.Spell Reflect.Self 20080 Sheen of Zanza
22:11.04CIA-22-- Misc.Hearth : Hearthsone & Ruby Slippers
22:11.06CIA-22-- Consumable.Buff.Free Action : 20008,5634
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22:13.43hyperChipmunknymbia: what's the categorical difference between Tradeskill.Gem and Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Gem?
22:14.12break19Kemayo: sorry, was afk.. which addons did it NOT completely comment out.. would be a far faster one to answer lol
22:14.16Kemayobreak19: I've worked out why wowace.py is commenting out everything.
22:14.20ckknightpants: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110644023&postId=1103959191&sid=1#5
22:14.28break19and im on mac
22:14.44KemayoYeah -- I forgot to account for different path separators.
22:14.48break19heh
22:15.00hyperChipmunknymbia: seems the latter has only old-world gems
22:15.24CIA-2203gits * r40418 10Acolyte2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
22:15.24CIA-22Acolyte2:
22:15.24CIA-22- some minor fixes
22:15.24CIA-22- option to disable flash of frames when in shadow trance
22:15.30Wobinhurrah
22:15.32break19uhm, svn didnt update anything. did you commit the fix yet, Kemayo ?
22:15.36Holyhey, does anyone have idea, if exists a mod that fades the entire hud when OOC, but not completely - only sets alpha on everything...?
22:17.06ckknightHoly: IceHUD?
22:17.06kergothhmm, does fruityloots still work?
22:17.14hyperChipmunkyep
22:17.19hyperChipmunki still use it
22:17.46break19Kemayo: wowace.py is still at rvn 50?
22:17.48JoshBork1holy:  local f = CreateFrame('Frame'); f:SetScript('OnEvent', function(frame, event) if event == "PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED" then UIParent:SetAlpha(0.5) elseif event == "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" then UIParent:SetAlpha(1) end end); f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED"), f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED");
22:18.23Holythx a lot, I'll give it a try ;)
22:18.52CIA-2203gits * r40419 10Acolyte2/core.lua:
22:18.52CIA-22Acolyte2:
22:18.52CIA-22- just a minor fix
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22:20.04hyperChipmunkTain: ping
22:20.36dodgizzlathere was an addon called NCHide on ace svn.. never tried it, but I think it does ooc hiding :o
22:20.54trh_Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/57026-4173
22:21.35AntiarcThanks!
22:21.41AntiarcKalman|: Ping?
22:21.48CIA-2203adirelle * r40420 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua:
22:21.48CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
22:21.49CIA-22- little bugfix,
22:21.49CIA-22- removed some debug statments,
22:21.49CIA-22- tested in raid with pure KTM users, it seems worky !
22:22.00Holydodgizzla yeah, but it hides everything except minimap. I just wanted to set alpha on everything while OOC
22:24.25Kemayobreak19: Yeah, I hadn't committed the fix yet. It's up now, and seems to be working as intended.
22:24.31break19kk
22:24.58dodgizzlaHoly: Ah I see
22:26.18break19Kemayo: if I use the -f without any addon names, the script will reinstall all my addons, correct?
22:26.38KemayoCorrect.
22:27.12break19kk, then i'll do so, and check tocs :)
22:27.19kenlyrichmmm.. I'm missing some valuable setting out of manufac, I think.
22:27.49break19'cause rolf's java updater fubars 2 addons' tocs, and he cant trace it down, want to see if yours does those same two..
22:28.30Ominousadirelle: is threat-1.0 in "stable" beta yet
22:28.53AdirelleOminous: ask Antirac
22:28.53Kemayobreak19: Which two is it?
22:28.57Adirelleantiarc, sry
22:29.06OminousAdirelle, yes stuipd me
22:29.10Ominousmiss tab
22:29.14AntiarcOminous: Sorta, kinda, not really
22:29.17break19onebank and cartographer. comments out onebank.lua and all the waypoints lines in cartographer
22:29.23Ominousso no recommending to guild yet :)
22:29.32AntiarcThe structure is defined, but I've got some weird threat value stuff going on
22:29.35Adirellebtw, I need testers for TTK (ThreatToKTM), I just tested it myself, seemed to be working
22:29.36AntiarcSo I'd hold off a bit
22:30.06kenlyricoh, lol, now i get it.
22:30.22abyssichateAntiarc: did you ever have bars being coloured with wrong colours? (in my case, some were all white)
22:30.29OminousAdirelle, im using it just so guild dont complain about no ktm
22:30.40DaemonaAdirelle will give it a run tomorrow in raid environment
22:30.42Antiarcabyssichate: Yeah, I saw that, thought I fixed it but I may not have
22:31.13Kemayobreak19: I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to comment out things in OneBank.toc.
22:31.23break19Kemayo: small suggestion.. always split !!SAL if it's updated/installed..  :)
22:31.24Wobinhuzzah, new wine
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22:33.06JoshBork1huzzah!
22:33.25break19Kemayo: ok, your script appears to comment-out correctly now :)
22:33.44break19checked 3 or 4, and found no problems.
22:33.58KemayoExcellent.  Sorry about the bug. :D
22:34.39break19heh, it drove me crazy for a while.. "why are my addons sayin I have missing files? wtf, is my filesystem corrupt again? gahhh" lol
22:34.57AdirelleOminous, Daemona: there were reports of perfomance issues, I didn't have any, could you check ?
22:35.22OminousAdirelle, well i suppose it will make the user feel as if he were using ktm
22:35.35Daemonadunno, only issue i had with an earlier revision was infinite aggro bars to the left side on aloft ;)
22:35.41OminousAdirelle: wouldnt notice as only done 1h of kara on laggy laptop with it
22:35.43Kalman|Antiarc: Pong.
22:35.45break19oh, hey Ominous, while ya have your head in here.. i have a question about classtimers.
22:35.52Ominoussure
22:36.13break19is this normal behavior? bars appearing, disappearing, when using all in one ?
22:36.33AntiarcKalman|: Had a chance to test spriest things yet?
22:36.36AdirelleOminous: shouldn't be as heavy as KTM, as it relies on Threat-1.0 and a little repeating event to broadcast when dirty
22:36.48OminousAdirelle, i was joking =D
22:36.59Adirelleoh :)
22:37.01Kalman|Antiarc: I have not; have to deal with the whole PTR thing, since I can't afford to respec on live.  :/
22:37.03break19as in, i have a pally that drops HoJ, and it replaces my bars with just hoj, then they come back and hoj is in there, in the middle.. seems like something crazy is goin on.. just an annoyance, but still
22:37.07AntiarcHeh, okay
22:37.18Adirellebtw, you can take the fubar plugin out by tweaking the toc
22:37.24Adirellethis way it will be "invisible"
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22:38.41dodgizzlaIn PitBull, when I select "outside bottom left" as position for a text, it is somewhere top left and not where "outside middle" or "outside bottom right" is :\
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22:39.06break19Ominous: im guessing its not normal?
22:39.31Ominousbreak19: no
22:39.46Ominousbreak19: you a pally?
22:39.54break19i have a pally alt
22:39.56ckknightdodgizzla: I'll check it out
22:40.01break19hell. i have a *alt
22:40.20break19i've got at least 1 of everything lol
22:40.41Ominousbreak19: i dont have a clue what would cause that
22:40.58break19me either. :p
22:41.05Ominousbreak19: as the setting to enable the buff shouldnt even be there
22:41.07Ominousfor you
22:41.24DaemonaAdirelle what i wanted to ask you all the time before... are you the one doing that rogue spreadsheet @ ej?
22:42.16AdirelleDaemona: err... what ?
22:42.44AdirelleDaemona: erm... considering my only char is an hunter...
22:42.55break19Kemayo: uh oh. i missed one :)
22:42.58break19[2007/06/17 17:41:02-985-x1]: ...s\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\PartyPoint.lua:3: Cannot find a library instance of Roster-2.1.:
22:43.02break19Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:470: in function `AceLibrary'
22:43.04break19...s\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\PartyPoint.lua:3: in main chunk:
22:43.13sbuso install roster-2.1? :p
22:43.17CryectDaemona you thinking of Kalman|?
22:43.28Cryectthough don't know if he is still doing one
22:43.37Kalman|Cryect: Adriana.
22:43.41Daemonaaah no its Aldriana
22:43.47Kalman|Or Aldriana, I guess.
22:44.02Daemonaneed to see if i can get myself unbanned... getting banned for bad grammar suxx :(
22:44.02Kalman|I haven't touched a rogue sheet in quite a while, not since Pf was working on integrating CP/Cycle.
22:44.19Kalman|Daemona: Was it a permaban or just a 7 day?
22:44.28Daemonadunno i didnt care to check.
22:44.36break19sbu: its installed :)
22:44.39Kalman|Was probably just a 7 day.
22:44.45sbuDaemona: banned where?
22:44.54CryectEJ forums :-p
22:44.56Daemonaelitistjerks
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22:45.10Kalman|Koaschten, right?
22:45.15break19RosterLib is installed and loaded, according to ACP
22:45.21Daemonahu? yeah
22:45.22abyssichatesome EJ posts give me vomit :|
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22:45.55Kalman|I think it was a 7-day.
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22:47.05Daemonayeah, but nonetheless, banning ppl for missing out a caps or punctuation here and there goes overboard. at least for me.
22:47.31Bibi`ouFstop crying Daemona, banning you is fine
22:47.43DaemonaBibi`ouF no more fth info for you.
22:47.45Daemona!
22:47.48Bibi`ouF:(
22:47.51Daemona;)
22:47.53Kalman|Daemona: I think they go overboard, but at the same time, it's nice having readable posts.
22:48.01Daemonai agree there.
22:48.23vhaarrWell, fact is, when you're writing a forum post, you have time to use a spell checker and properly format your post before you click 'Post'.
22:48.24Daemonaand for the first three infractions i got, i went back to the post and corrected them, replied to kaubel and got a "i dont care"
22:48.34vhaarrBut still, seems a bit excessive to ban you for it.
22:49.19break19Kemayo: ok, its not a toc problem...
22:49.19Kalman|vhaarr: Multiple warnings = 3-7 day vacation.  Daemona got 3 or 4 warnings.
22:49.26kenlyricI don't know. Their forums don't suck.
22:49.53TheKarnwhat's the most efficient way to implelemt a simple FIFO stack?
22:49.59CAL|SMeltnew I like the dead timer now on the frames ck
22:49.59TheKarnin lua ofc
22:50.07ckknight:-)
22:50.08vhaarrDaemona: Perhaps you can find comfort in the fact that SA would probably have banned you after 1 warning.
22:50.21Kemayobreak19: As expected.  My script is PERFECT!
22:50.21JoshBorkeTheKarn: tinsert(tbl, item); tremove(tbl,1)
22:50.32Kalman|Anyway, Daemona, checked, you were on a 7 day.
22:50.48break19Kemayo: lol
22:50.57TheKarnJoshBorke, is that more efficient then using a string? (i'm only dealing with single chars)
22:51.27Daemonaif it wasnt the only good place for rogue theorycrafting i wouldnt even bother checking if the ban ran out Kalman| :/ guess i will login and become a lurker.
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22:51.59JoshBorkeTheKarn: what?  i'm talking about using tables, not strings
22:52.06TheKarni know
22:52.15TheKarndont worry i was being stupid
22:52.20JoshBorkeso i don't understand where string came in :D
22:52.22TheKarna table does make more logical sense
22:52.27break19well shit. I'll never get this shit fixed if the wife wont let me try..
22:52.29TheKarni was gunna append to a string, then sub it off
22:52.29break19bbl
22:52.45JoshBorkethekarn:  k, glad you got that out of your system
22:52.50TheKarnhehe
22:54.19dodgizzlaOminous: Care to enlighten me how Sticky in ClassTimers should work? :D
22:54.55Ominousurm its supposed to make a bar stay even when you deslect your target but its buggy
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22:55.04dodgizzlaOminous: Ah, thought so :D Cause it did not work :D
22:55.14Ominouswhat didnt work on it
22:55.52dodgizzlaI posted in the forums. In short: I disabled all other bars and stickied all de-/buffs and nothing shows up
22:58.06Ominousckknight: ping
22:58.44ckknightpong
22:58.45ckknightwhat's up?
22:59.13Ominouswould it be possible to add an option to preformance fu always to display an addon in profilling
22:59.20Ominouseven its its not in top 20
23:01.03Ominoushow good/bad is it for a timer addon to be using .3% cpu when in full flow in combat?
23:01.17ckknighttimer addon?
23:01.23ckknightClassTimers?
23:01.27Ominousya
23:01.32ckknighthrm... .3% cpu isn't _horrible_
23:01.41ckknightbut one should always try to optimize
23:01.45Ominousofc
23:01.47ckknightuntil you can't figure out how to anymore
23:01.49CIA-2203kemayo * r40421 10Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer: Add X-Embeds to toc. Changed OptionalDeps and X-Embeds to refer to RosterLib instead of Roster-2.1.
23:02.01Kemayobreak19: I suspect that would be your problem.
23:02.04Kalman|ckknight: With PerfFu enabled and CPU profiling enabled, I get "chug"; with perffu off, no chug.  Expected or?
23:02.13Ominousthat is more than i will ever have it tho as i will never use all my buffs at once with a focus target with the same debuffs that im casting as well
23:02.20ckknightKalman|: chug?
23:02.23JoshBorkeKalman|: profiling increase CPU usage
23:02.30Kalman|JoshBorke: Profiling is on in both cases.
23:02.44Kalman|ckknight: Every second or so, I freeze for 1/10 second and then catch up.
23:02.45JoshBorkeKalman|: is the tablet shown?
23:02.50Kalman|JoshBorke: No.
23:02.51ckknightKalman|: oh, yea, cause PerfFu rechecks like every second
23:02.59ckknightKalman|: dang, your comp must have issues...
23:03.08ckknightKalman|: that's actually blizz's code doing the freeze
23:03.16dodgizzlaClassTimer did not even show up in top 20 in our 25 raid today :D love it :D
23:03.24ckknightsince basically it has to check all the values
23:03.25Kalman|ckknight: OK, so, it's me, not everyone.  Fantastic.
23:03.35ckknight*thumbs up*
23:03.52Ominousya, its nuber 20 atm sorted by cpu time in shattrath attacking the aldor guard in bank which dosent banish
23:04.00Ominousbut off in everything else
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23:06.28Ominousckknight: what did you think of my suggestion
23:06.45ckknightOminous: gimme a good UI idea for it
23:06.56Ominousckknight: what do u mean
23:07.02ckknightor actually
23:07.06ckknightcan't you just hack it in?
23:07.08ckknightbe a big boy and all?
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23:07.22Ominousdammit
23:08.30CLASHENanyone know a simple addon that just shows a moveable ragebar?
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23:09.51trh_Antiarc: there?
23:10.01Ominousckknight: what did you say after or actually
23:10.35ckknight<ckknight> can't you just hack it in?
23:10.36ckknight<ckknight> be a big boy and all?
23:11.07Antiarctrh_: Yo
23:11.18trh_Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/57026-4173
23:11.25trh_Antiarc: flatmate got this one after leaving a group
23:11.29Antiarctrh_: On it :)
23:11.36trh_Antiarc :)
23:11.47trh_Antiarc: the version numbers are in the followup
23:11.49Ominousckknight: bah,
23:11.55trh_Antiarc: i think threat version number is wrong though ;)
23:12.01trh_Antiarc: prolly 4 instead of a 3
23:12.28Ominousckknight: but but but .. then i would need to checkout the code, then i would have to work out your code, then i would have to add it in
23:15.17trh_Antiarc: ah.. additionally he let his pet attack (warlock felhound)
23:16.42ckknightOminous: right, for a feature you want
23:16.53Ominousckknight: bah!
23:17.00CIA-2203ckknight * r40422 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - :Open can now override values if inheriting.
23:17.15Ominousckknight: you added the GC difference feature =P
23:17.43dodgizzlaHey, here's a nifty addon idea
23:17.53dodgizzlaWhen somebody dies, target them and /gloat
23:17.55CIA-2203ckknight * r40423 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - :OpenMenu() will now show on the cursor if frame and minimapFrame are hidden.
23:17.57dodgizzlaand retarget last target :D
23:18.26trh_dodgizzla: targetting = impossible if not in raid/party, and even in raid/party hard
23:18.29hyperChipmunkyea, that's spectacular
23:18.38hyperChipmunkmake sure you gloat about 50 times too
23:18.49hyperChipmunkso you fit in with the rest of the retard kiddies
23:19.11dodgizzlatrh_: :\\\
23:19.13hyperChipmunkalso, you don't need to target for emotes
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23:19.23hyperChipmunk/gloat dodg
23:19.37dodgizzlaAh well, it's for my raid :D
23:19.49trh_hyperChipmunk: but can you call them without secure frames? never looked into them :)
23:20.07dodgizzlaPeople who win on threat obviously deserve /gloat :>
23:20.40hyperChipmunkSoandso dies.
23:20.52hyperChipmunkDoEmote('gloat', 'soandso')
23:21.10hyperChipmunkah, well you'd have to get his unitid
23:21.15hyperChipmunkbut if you're in a raid, that's np
23:21.17CIA-2203ckknight * r40424 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
23:21.17CIA-22PitBull - /pitbull opens the fubar menu now (or on cursor if plugin is hidden).
23:21.17CIA-22- call :UpdateAllUnitsMenu lazily, when the menu is opened. This should save some major CPU time, as it was being called on layout update previously.
23:21.28ckknightPitBull should be fast now
23:21.28dodgizzlaHm, /gloat <foo> does work :D
23:21.37hyperChipmunkwell dur
23:21.47hyperChipmunkif you had to target to emote someone, it would totally suck
23:23.13dodgizzlaI'd totally use that addon
23:23.25dodgizzlaIn fact, I think everybody in our raid would :D
23:23.27hyperChipmunkit'd be a waste of an addon
23:23.34dodgizzlaMan that sure would be funny on a wipe :D
23:23.41hyperChipmunkjust stuff two lines of code in your scratch addon
23:24.01CryectWell I had an addon I wrote that would /mourn anyone who died
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23:27.42JoshBorkehyperChipmunk: no such thing as a waste of an addon
23:28.26hyperChipmunkdude, two lines?
23:28.46hyperChipmunkjust stick it in your scratch addon
23:29.00hyperChipmunkfull blown addon is overkill for that
23:29.16Cryectyou could stick it in a macro
23:30.41ckknight<PROTECTED>
23:30.48Cryectyep!
23:31.08ckknight<PROTECTED>
23:31.19Cryecthah
23:31.26ckknight:-)
23:31.49CryectBe amusing watching you cheer for the boss and mourning your raid :-p
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23:32.47dodgizzlahehe
23:32.48dodgizzla<3
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23:33.12CIA-2203fenlis * r40425 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua:
23:33.12CIA-22Parser-3.0:
23:33.12CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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23:39.35ckknightalright, gonna try to fix my ethernet cord
23:39.38ckknightbbiab
23:51.32ZealotOnAStickSSC raiding question: If you take out the pumping stations for doing lurker, and have scalding water, does that scalding water affect people in Watery Graves on Morogrim?
23:52.14Gngskapparently so
23:52.18Funkeh`yes
23:52.22Funkeh`you don't want to do lurker
23:52.36Gngskyou can let the instance soft reset though
23:53.48Ominousargh ffs, hate officers
23:55.25DaemonaZealotOnAStick its not that bad
23:55.29Daemonawe do that all the time
23:55.36Daemonaits just 1k dmg more to the ppl in graves
23:55.39Funkeh`Daemona: don't lie.
23:55.42Daemona(2 ticks)
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23:56.17ckknight_alright
23:56.19ckknight_we'll so how this works
23:56.33ckknightnope, trying again
23:58.14Daemonawe usually do lurker -> tidewalker -> karathress -> leotheras -> hydross -> vashj Funkeh` ;)
23:58.59Funkeh`lies
23:59.08sbu5% lurker sucks :/
23:59.19sbuwell okay, i think kill tomorrow... ;o
23:59.19Daemonano killing lurker during spout suxx
23:59.27sbuhm, why?
23:59.35bindisame Daemona
23:59.49Daemonano loot sbu
23:59.54Daemonaunless they fixed it
23:59.55Daemonaor rather
23:59.59Daemonayou get loot

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