00:00.07 | Saint-N | its 41cents to mail shit these days right? |
00:00.10 | Antiarc | Kalman|: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/vtthreat.txt |
00:00.21 | kenlyric | it's only 30 in WoW |
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00:00.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Saint-N: yeah >< |
00:01.06 | Kemayo | nymbia: PT3-InstanceLoot is missing Old Serra'kis from BFD. |
00:02.04 | hyperChipmunk | afk for a bit; if you have any problems with the new BMI stuff, I'll be back in about 20min to tell you where you can stick it |
00:02.17 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40286 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer_InstanceNotes: Fix capitalization on Aku'mai and Old Serra'kis. |
00:02.48 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40287 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
00:02.48 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
00:02.48 | CIA-22 | -Add Old Serra'kis to BFD. |
00:03.01 | abyssichate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07W7-4Meffo&mode=related&search= |
00:03.49 | BankZ | damn VoiceOverly doesnt seem to work in vista |
00:03.54 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Looks correct to me. |
00:04.32 | xt | BankZ: get another monitor :) |
00:04.49 | Kalman| | BankZ: Logitech G15. |
00:05.25 | Dustwhisper | what would cause WOW to prohibit you from typing /cmd YourOption |
00:05.28 | Dustwhisper | can't hit enter >_< |
00:05.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight: sort function is faded out without CPU prifiling, would be nice to sort by increasing memory |
00:05.50 | Funkeh` | profiling* |
00:06.21 | ckknight | you choose the sort. |
00:06.56 | BankZ | xt: Monitor? |
00:07.30 | Funkeh` | ckknight: sorry? im trying to say i cannot choose it |
00:07.36 | ckknight | ah |
00:07.47 | kenlyric | new boss in BFD? |
00:07.51 | Antiarc | Anyone know if mana gains would fire for non-mana users? |
00:08.03 | Funkeh` | i can ask |
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00:08.10 | Antiarc | I can test it, I'm just being lazy |
00:08.19 | kenlyric | Antiarc they don't in the combat log. |
00:08.20 | KriLL3 | Could I get some input on these rough drafts? using a custom addon I pieced together with considerable help to make eePanels shift all elements depending on form, and show/hide bars http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9623/wowscrnshot061707015742mg6.jpg http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9907/wowscrnshot061707015756dj9.jpg |
00:08.28 | Antiarc | kenlyric: I'm more concerned with the events :) |
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00:08.44 | KriLL3 | shown are catform and caster UIs |
00:08.51 | Peoii | Antiarc: Oh hey, have you considered Master of Elements as a mana regen ability? |
00:09.09 | Peoii | I dunno if it generates extra threat, but we definately get mana back from it. |
00:09.12 | Antiarc | Peoii: Yeah, all regen is caught |
00:09.16 | Peoii | k, cool |
00:09.18 | Antiarc | All explicit mana gains, etc |
00:10.01 | Funkeh` | thats a good point |
00:10.07 | Funkeh` | i don't think it would produce threat |
00:10.15 | Funkeh` | to a non mana class |
00:10.30 | Funkeh` | would be a bit stupid if it did |
00:10.38 | Antiarc | Well, my concern is the priest proccing it on a rogue and getting threat attributed to them. I don't think they do, but I want to cover my bases. |
00:10.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40288 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - add sort for memory since GC. |
00:10.55 | Peoii | Nah, prolly treated much like a full resist from a spell, or an overheal. You get 0 threat from overheals now, so I'd assume the same thing. |
00:11.06 | Funkeh` | yeah i agree |
00:11.13 | Antiarc | Well, right, I just want to make sure Threat doesn't try to assign threat for it |
00:11.31 | Funkeh` | how would i test that |
00:11.34 | Antiarc | I'd be really shocked if proccing VT for a rogue caused threat for the priest |
00:12.06 | Antiarc | Follow this procedure: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/vtthreat.txt except use a non-mana-user for your melee class |
00:12.10 | Peoii | and btw: OMG why couldn't you name the library something like Pancakes-1.0 or something... so we don'th ave discussions like "Yea, I'm curious how Threat handles threat." |
00:12.11 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
00:12.25 | Gnarfoz | FinderReminder checks via IsInBG if I am inside a bg or arena |
00:12.30 | Keias | Peoii, then people would ask how it tastes |
00:12.31 | NightHawkTheSane | mm. pancakes. |
00:12.38 | Gnarfoz | but still, everytime I join an arena, I get the damn popup |
00:12.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I WOULD BE DELICIOUS! |
00:12.45 | Gnarfoz | because arenas purge all buffs on entering |
00:12.46 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
00:12.50 | Hjalte | Somethings broken with the "make new text" feature in pitbull. I input the name of the new text, press enter and nothing happens. |
00:12.52 | Antiarc | Call it ThreatLib :P |
00:12.56 | ckknight | Pancake-1.0 would be delicious, but only with RaspberrySyrup-1.1 |
00:13.05 | ckknight | Hjalte: what're you calling it? |
00:13.09 | *** join/#wowace Coldheart (n=cold@systembolaget.us) |
00:13.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: what was wrong with RasberrySyrup-1.0? |
00:13.27 | ckknight | API change |
00:13.30 | Hjalte | ckknight, umm, i have to call is something specific? I tried "Name" and "Name bar text" |
00:13.33 | NightHawkTheSane | bah. |
00:13.34 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: To many hooks to Seed-1.0 |
00:13.35 | ckknight | not enough syrupy goodness in 1.0 |
00:13.43 | Funkeh` | rofl |
00:13.46 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
00:13.48 | ckknight | Hjalte: k, lemme test |
00:14.20 | Antiarc | Well, my big conclusions for today is that...I am back to square one for SP threat. |
00:14.22 | Antiarc | *sigh* |
00:14.34 | ckknight | lame |
00:14.35 | Antiarc | Kalman|: You seem to think it's related to the shadowfiend, yes? |
00:15.55 | Dotted | i preffer IceCream-2.0, hate Pancake-1.0 :( |
00:16.19 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: i already knew that(your link) |
00:16.45 | KriLL3 | IceCream2.0 is that soy stuff? |
00:16.47 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: im wondering how i go about testing what you asked, if Threat-1.0 is unecesarily adding threat when having melee classes |
00:16.54 | Dotted | soy? |
00:17.20 | KriLL3 | it's a bean, you make sauce of it |
00:17.28 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: I can test that - not a big deal :) |
00:17.34 | Antiarc | Just gonna throw in some debug messages |
00:17.36 | Dotted | ah, no i dont think so |
00:17.40 | Dotted | i didnt ode it |
00:17.44 | Dotted | *code |
00:17.52 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: ok |
00:17.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40289 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - commas are important, apparently |
00:18.21 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: but i can guarantee you thats not the main problem since im usually in caster only groups and creating abnormally large agro |
00:18.32 | Funkeh` | it might contribute though |
00:18.33 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Yeah, I don't think that's it, TBH |
00:18.43 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Does it happen if you don't use your shadowfiend? |
00:18.58 | Funkeh` | err |
00:19.24 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40290 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
00:19.24 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
00:19.24 | CIA-22 | - applied the KISS principle. |
00:19.28 | Funkeh` | what kind of session time are we talking |
00:19.33 | Funkeh` | since login? |
00:19.43 | Antiarc | Since last threat clear |
00:19.54 | Funkeh` | thats a good question |
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00:20.14 | Funkeh` | lemme see if i can test |
00:21.01 | hyperChipmunk | Gnarfoz: that's a good thing |
00:21.06 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
00:21.13 | hyperChipmunk | the FinderReminder |
00:21.17 | Gnarfoz | for hunters? |
00:21.23 | Gnarfoz | I can imagine :D |
00:21.24 | hyperChipmunk | i'd never remember to turn back on Track Humanoids |
00:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | without it |
00:21.37 | Gnarfoz | but still, it shouldn't act like that, from how the code looks |
00:21.44 | Gnarfoz | even if that's useful in a way :D |
00:23.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40291 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - add translation |
00:24.20 | ckknight | Hjalte: tested out the new text thing, works fine for me |
00:24.35 | ckknight | Hjalte: calling yours "Name" won't work, since Name is a standard one anyway |
00:24.41 | Gnarfoz | but I can't figure out why it does it :\ |
00:24.42 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: arenas arent considered bgs |
00:24.47 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yes they are :\ |
00:25.01 | Arrowmaster | whats it use to detect bgs? |
00:25.02 | Gnarfoz | GetBattlefieldInfo(1) returns 'active' in arenas for me |
00:25.03 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: IsInInstance() => 1, "pvp" in an arena |
00:25.09 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
00:25.24 | Arrowmaster | IsInInstance() => 1, "arena" is an arena |
00:25.38 | Arrowmaster | trust me i wrote the wowwiki page on IsInInstance() |
00:25.41 | Funkeh` | bg and arena return different |
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00:27.27 | Dustwhisper | after 1 hour of this addonscripting i already decided i hate lua :P |
00:27.39 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
00:27.41 | JoshBorke | Dustwhisper: aw, but it's so nice |
00:27.43 | hyperChipmunk | lua is /swoon |
00:27.48 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: qft |
00:27.59 | Dustwhisper | the syntax is *bleh* |
00:28.11 | abug | bleautiful |
00:28.35 | JoshBorke | i think i'd prefer to specify global vs local in the file scope (ie default to local file scope) but that's impractical |
00:28.45 | Gnarfoz | 02:28:28|"active", "Nagrand Arena", 2, 70, 70, 2, 1 |
00:28.45 | Gnarfoz | 02:28:33|Lolah: echo GetBattlefieldStatus(1) |
00:28.48 | abug | python does that, I hate it |
00:28.50 | Gnarfoz | is what it returns for me |
00:28.58 | Gnarfoz | and FinderReminder looks for that 'active' |
00:29.13 | Dustwhisper | I couldnt even get my addon to do a simple /cmd Subcommand params |
00:29.13 | Dustwhisper | to work |
00:29.17 | Dustwhisper | won't let me hit enter =D |
00:29.19 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: odd |
00:29.32 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: if i remember ill rewrite it to use IsInInstance() |
00:29.42 | Arrowmaster | since its *better* |
00:29.46 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
00:29.48 | JoshBorke | Dustwhisper: that means that an error is occuring and being captured |
00:29.57 | JoshBorke | the execution path is halted |
00:30.24 | JoshBorke | i believe is a semi-accurate way to describe the elicited behaviour |
00:30.31 | JoshBorke | smarter minds are more than welcome to correct me |
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00:31.00 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: show me how that's done and I'll do it :) |
00:31.18 | Gnarfoz | i.e. what to check for |
00:31.23 | Dustwhisper | yes JoshBorke makes sense I just dont know exactly where |
00:31.35 | Dustwhisper | guess it's my uber string concatenation code that borks it |
00:31.46 | JoshBorke | Dustwhisper: you should have another addon that is catching the error |
00:31.54 | JoshBorke | Dustwhisper: which should tell you excatly where it is |
00:32.20 | Dustwhisper | i have buggrabber ye |
00:32.32 | JoshBorke | then it should tell you the line that the error occurs on |
00:33.17 | Dustwhisper | how do you get buggrabber to actually show you the data without clearing it again? it disappears after like 3 seconds |
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00:33.41 | JoshBorke | perhaps you need bugsack? |
00:33.53 | JoshBorke | i've also used Swatter with great success, but it conflicts with bug* |
00:34.17 | Gnarfoz | ah |
00:34.22 | Gnarfoz | IsInInstance() returns "arena" |
00:35.15 | JoshBorke | Dustwhisper: the version of BugGrabber/BugSack I use keeps all errors |
00:36.36 | Dustwhisper | bugsack wouldn't load due to errors with aceconsole >_< |
00:37.21 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@ppp121-45-194-28.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) |
00:37.38 | JoshBorke | hm, sounds like a borked version of bug* |
00:37.47 | JoshBorke | did you try downloading them from wowi? |
00:40.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40292 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix issue with allFrames not being able to pick up functions properly. |
00:40.42 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: Threat-1.0-40225 (Omen):889: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
00:40.57 | Antiarc | Aight |
00:41.27 | hyperChipmunk | quit your suck nub |
00:42.41 | hyperChipmunk | you changed the color of the overtake bar; possible to make it smooth-shift from green to red based on the fraction of your threat to its? |
00:42.55 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
00:43.01 | hyperChipmunk | fine |
00:43.03 | JoshBorke | YOU'LL TAKE WHAT YOU GET AND YOU'LL LIKE IT! |
00:43.15 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Eh, you could, but I don't think I will since it's configurable |
00:43.27 | *** kick/#wowace [JoshBorke!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (you like this, punk?) |
00:43.41 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
00:43.45 | hyperChipmunk | just an idea |
00:44.51 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Joshua@adsl-156-54-6.asm.bellsouth.net) |
00:44.59 | JoshBorke | took me forever to realize you had kicked me |
00:45.09 | hyperChipmunk | yea, you are pretty slow |
00:45.11 | JoshBorke | i only noticed because i was gonna ask how to exit lua's interpreter mode |
00:45.21 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: understatement of the day |
00:45.29 | hyperChipmunk | ctrl-d? |
00:45.42 | JoshBorke | just ctrl-c? |
00:45.47 | hyperChipmunk | that works too |
00:45.48 | JoshBorke | seems so, well, abrupt |
00:46.01 | hyperChipmunk | ctrl-D should be a normal exit |
00:46.16 | JoshBorke | oh, you're right |
00:46.27 | hyperChipmunk | naturally |
00:46.34 | JoshBorke | i hate you |
00:46.34 | JoshBorke | :P |
00:46.41 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
00:46.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ctrl-d is end-of-file, isnt it? it usually exits out of any stdin input |
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00:47.27 | JoshBorke | i hate you too NightHawkTheSane |
00:47.41 | NightHawkTheSane | thats okay, the feeling is mutual :D |
00:48.25 | JoshBorke | what have i ever done to you :( |
00:48.27 | JoshBorke | :'( |
00:48.30 | JoshBorke | purl, comfort me |
00:48.31 | purl | There, there, joshborke. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
00:48.36 | JoshBorke | thanks purl |
00:48.38 | JoshBorke | ~botsnack |
00:48.38 | purl | thanks, JoshBorke |
00:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | you said you hated me, that's what. |
00:48.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart JoshBorke |
00:48.42 | purl | executes killall -KILL JoshBorke |
00:48.56 | hyperChipmunk | rather abrupt, purl |
00:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | you could have just EOFed him |
00:49.04 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@84.80-202-40.nextgentel.com) |
00:49.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
00:49.11 | JoshBorke | ~lar hyperChipmunk |
00:49.12 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, burn. |
00:49.16 | JoshBorke | lol |
00:49.27 | hyperChipmunk | ~comfort JoshBorke |
00:49.28 | purl | There, there, JoshBorke. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
00:54.01 | trh_ | does arkinventory use the slash commands /ai? |
00:54.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, i'd forgotten how much of a pussy garland was. |
00:57.49 | cladhaire | Anything special that needs to happen to make the cooldown spark work on Quartz? |
00:58.12 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: the GCD thing you mean? |
00:58.17 | liquiem | waaargh, antiarc, please make fd resists not wiping threat! |
00:58.20 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: user error imo |
00:58.31 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: i'm not the user, so thats possible |
00:58.34 | Antiarc | liquiem: I fixed that a couple days ago...you're up to date? |
00:58.36 | JoshBorke | blast |
00:58.54 | JoshBorke | i thought i had you |
00:58.59 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire: you need to set two spells for the GCD one |
00:59.04 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: well, if you mean the Global Cooldown Spark thing, Make sure there's a spell set in the settings |
00:59.07 | liquiem | yep, 40253 omen, 40225 threatlib |
00:59.18 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
00:59.22 | Antiarc | Multi-mob fight? |
00:59.24 | cladhaire | okay, thanks. |
00:59.35 | liquiem | nope, single servent in blasted lands |
00:59.46 | Antiarc | Bleh! Wonder what's up with it. |
00:59.47 | cladhaire | hrm.. |
00:59.49 | Antiarc | I'll check into it. |
00:59.50 | hyperChipmunk | those are the best mobs ever |
00:59.59 | liquiem | pet tanks, i shoot until i get aggro and fd. fd resists, threat wipes but mobs stays on me.. ofc |
01:00.30 | liquiem | thats the only reason why i still use ktm :/ |
01:02.15 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40293 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (Pet.lua Priest.lua): |
01:02.15 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
01:02.15 | CIA-22 | - Pet despawn fix (shadowfiend, water elemental) |
01:02.15 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Silent Resolve rank 3 to give the proper 25% reduction rather than 24%. Shadow priests with Silent Resolve were reporting all threat as being 1.42% higher than it actually was. |
01:02.36 | Antiarc | liquiem: I actually did a lot of work on that the other day. I'll see if I can figure out what's up. :/ |
01:04.26 | Hjalte | ckknight, i tested some more and i can do new texts on the abf(default) layout but not my buu frames |
01:05.00 | ckknight | yea, Buu is broken |
01:05.10 | ckknight | everything but ABF is broken |
01:05.17 | ckknight | granted, you can create Buu with ABF now |
01:06.00 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40294 10AntiInvite/ (. AntiInvite.lua AntiInvite.toc): |
01:06.00 | CIA-22 | AntiInvite: initial commit: |
01:06.00 | CIA-22 | Auto-declines group invites if the inviter is not in guild, on friendslist or you didn't spoke with him. Other Invites aren't changed. |
01:06.39 | hyperChipmunk | Bars->Blank Space [Change settings for the blank space] |
01:06.47 | hyperChipmunk | nice tooltip |
01:08.01 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: "didn't spoke with him" wonderful grammar there. :p |
01:08.05 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r40295 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
01:08.05 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
01:08.05 | CIA-22 | - French update from KKram |
01:08.37 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: not a native speaker ;) |
01:09.01 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: excuses excuses. ;) It should probably "or you haven't spoken with him" |
01:09.27 | NightHawkTheSane | s/y/y be/ |
01:09.30 | liquiem | Antiarc: ThreatLib:Debug("FD is primed!") .. how do i enable this messages for me, like printing in chatframe1? |
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01:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:08] <NightHawkTheSane> trh_: excuses excuses. ;) It should probably "or you haven't spoken with him" |
01:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:09] * Shirik|zZz is now known as Shirik |
01:10.50 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
01:10.58 | sag_ich_nicht | damn you, MX518 |
01:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | no cookie |
01:11.20 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
01:11.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:08] <NightHawkTheSane> trh_: excuses excuses. ;) It should probably "or you haven't spoken with him" <--or "or you didn't speak with him" |
01:11.52 | NightHawkTheSane | either would work |
01:12.21 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40296 10AntiInvite/ (. AntiInvite.toc): AntiInvite: externals + .toc fixes |
01:12.21 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40297 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
01:12.21 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
01:12.21 | CIA-22 | - BB: Old Serra'kis is in deDE "Old Serra'kis" too... |
01:12.21 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane proposal is included ;) |
01:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah but one requires restructuring the sentence, the other only using the proper time for the word :P |
01:12.48 | Antiarc | liquiem: /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true |
01:12.51 | CIA-22 | 03gnarfoz * r40298 10FinderReminder/FinderReminder.lua: FinderReminder - Use IsInInstance instead of GetBattlefieldStatus, detects both battlegrounds and arenas now. Still affected by the battleground toggle, for hunters and the like. /wave hyperChipmunk ;) |
01:12.55 | NightHawkTheSane | restructuring? It changes one word, and adds a letter to a second. Hardly a restructure :p |
01:13.20 | sag_ich_nicht | mine is less work with same results thus my solution is more optimized |
01:13.26 | trh_ | but the most important part is that i don't have to care about those gold-spammer invites anymore :) |
01:13.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i DARE you claim otherwise. |
01:13.39 | sag_ich_nicht | +to |
01:13.46 | hyperChipmunk | Gnarfoz: >8p |
01:13.52 | Gnarfoz | =D |
01:14.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not, i'm just saying both are equally grammatically correct. |
01:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah well that's what i already said :P |
01:15.28 | sLLiK | Anyone know of an addon that simply removes the arrows from the chat boxes? Maybe adds a little scrolling functionality but that's it? |
01:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Although, if you really want to split hairs, I believe "haven't spoken with" is passive voice, and considered slightly poorer form in formal literature. |
01:15.46 | NightHawkTheSane | but that's really picking nits. |
01:15.52 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
01:18.01 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r40299 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
01:18.01 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
01:18.01 | CIA-22 | - Fixed loot browser for lvl70 pvp sets |
01:19.34 | Gnarfoz | hey, grammar flames are fun! |
01:20.02 | Gnarfoz | couldn't it also be "haven't spoken to"? :D |
01:20.02 | Gnarfoz | or would that have to be "talked to" |
01:20.09 | trh_ | i bet if NightHawkTheSane would write some german we could correct the hell out of him :P |
01:20.28 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: totally. :) |
01:20.40 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
01:20.51 | sLLiK | I would swear I had a mod at one point that would do that for me in the past... can't seem to find it again, though. Ah well. |
01:20.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I haven't studied german in almost 10 years. |
01:21.17 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: change the communication handling in VanasKoS or /I/ am going to flame you though ;P |
01:21.39 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: na.. it's fine as it is.. =) |
01:21.43 | sag_ich_nicht | no it isn't |
01:21.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it's using one chat slot for nothing |
01:21.51 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: /poke |
01:21.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i could use that slot |
01:21.52 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
01:22.24 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: set vanaskos to not join global then ;) |
01:22.45 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: then my wanted tracking doesn't work :P |
01:23.00 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: get more chat channels :P |
01:23.12 | Antiarc | Whoa, whoa, whoa |
01:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: i can't, 10 and maxed out |
01:23.17 | Antiarc | I'm on a guildmate's spriest |
01:23.21 | Antiarc | And he's in 3/3 shadowweave |
01:23.29 | Antiarc | I cast SW:D and I got TWO heals for 29 |
01:23.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i want more, but you're stealing one for nothing :P |
01:23.43 | Antiarc | Presumably one for damage caused to me, one for my target? |
01:23.59 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: but sending like 1200 list entries over a global channel every 10 minutes suck =) |
01:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | just from the cast or from the kill :P |
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01:24.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: o_0 damage caused to you shouldn't cause VE healing, as -you- don't have the VE debuff, yeah? |
01:24.13 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: the zonechannel is global as well :P |
01:24.18 | sag_ich_nicht | just not that many people in it |
01:24.25 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: ya.. that's what i meant :) |
01:24.31 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Not VE, 3-piece Frozen Shadowweave |
01:24.43 | Antiarc | 2% of all shadow damage caused = healz for me |
01:24.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: ahh, well, yeah, i guess that makes sense then |
01:24.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you cause the damage, even if it's to yourself. |
01:25.33 | trh_ | funniest thing was this week in karazhan a priest complaining that his shadowfiend doesn't go to the mob... |
01:25.35 | KarlThePagan | I'm trying to get Assessment to show damage percents in the text - where is the tag control stuff in the lua? |
01:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: doesn't matter though, incoming traffic doesn't disconnect you, only outgoing, iirc |
01:25.45 | sag_ich_nicht | so: you are wasting a chatchannel :P |
01:26.03 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: not if you count interoperability between older versions =) |
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01:26.11 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: they are on the zone channel but not on the global ^^ |
01:26.25 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: well that's their fault |
01:27.08 | sag_ich_nicht | should be running the latest version or latest revision that works for them if the latest version is bugged for them. :P |
01:27.52 | kenlyric | trh_: that's not funny. That's annoying. |
01:28.12 | trh_ | kenlyric: what? |
01:28.14 | sag_ich_nicht | so: stop wasting my chatchannel :P |
01:28.25 | kenlyric | shadowfiend being broken |
01:28.33 | trh_ | kenlyric: er... it's not broken |
01:28.41 | trh_ | kenlyric: they were just too stupid to use the "new" petbar |
01:28.56 | kenlyric | say what? |
01:29.03 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 petbar bug |
01:29.29 | trh_ | ya.. petbar bugging sucks |
01:29.41 | kenlyric | since when do shadow fiends get pet bars? |
01:29.53 | trh_ | kenlyric: heard they got it in 2.1 or sth |
01:30.02 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric i suggest you install this addon so YOU get the petbar as well: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6978-ReappearingUnitFrames.html |
01:30.07 | kenlyric | I think I would have noticed. |
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01:30.17 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric: no, you wouldn't, because petbars are broken atm |
01:30.18 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
01:30.24 | kenlyric | feh. addons for basic gameplay functionality? |
01:30.40 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric: yes. currently petbars are broken, sad as it is D: |
01:30.52 | kenlyric | my hunter and warlock pets work fine. |
01:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | annoyed the hell out of me when i did the gorefiend quests |
01:31.10 | sag_ich_nicht | because i wouldn't get a petbar no matter what |
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01:31.27 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric: just. try. it. out. :P |
01:31.39 | sag_ich_nicht | if it doesn't work you can still come back complaining ;P |
01:31.50 | kenlyric | I can complain anyway. |
01:31.57 | kenlyric | if shadowfiend doesn't work correctly. |
01:32.35 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah well see if you get a petbar with it installed for the fiend now :P |
01:32.36 | kenlyric | damnation |
01:32.41 | kenlyric | that really should have been in the patch notes. |
01:32.56 | kenlyric | I just called my shadowfiend out of combat to check :) |
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01:33.28 | trh_ | kenlyric: say hi to him from me ;) |
01:34.08 | kenlyric | yeah, that's the kind of goddamn thing that needs to be in patch notes. |
01:39.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40300 10Cartographer/Cartographer_ZoneInfo/ZoneInfo.lua: Cartographer_ZoneInfo - fix issue where zone text levels weren't showing. |
01:41.58 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40301 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
01:41.58 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
01:41.58 | CIA-22 | - Translated 2 Missing Spells into deDE |
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01:45.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40302 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - possible bugfix |
01:46.01 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r40303 10GemList/ (GemList.lua locales/locale-deDE.lua locales/locale-enUS.lua): |
01:46.02 | CIA-22 | GemList: |
01:46.02 | CIA-22 | - drycoded an option to restrict output to rare gems |
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01:46.28 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40304 10AntiInvite/ (AntiInvite.lua AntiInvite.toc): AntiInvite: clarification in the .toc note, only ask for GuildRoster if in a guild, don't take says as input |
01:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:32] <kenlyric> that really should have been in the patch notes. <--tell your friends, get RUF, stop QQing :P |
01:47.55 | kenlyric | I'm gonna flame blizzard on the forums! |
01:48.22 | hyperChipmunk | that'll show 'em |
01:49.44 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40305 10BigWigs_TabletBars/ (. BigWigs_TabletBars.toc TabletBars.lua): BigWigs_TabletBars: bugfix |
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01:51.36 | kenlyric | nice thing is that shadowfiend is on defensive, so when I'm solo (which I am all the time now) he always works. |
01:51.36 | Dotted | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268199 |
01:51.38 | Dotted | OH |
01:51.38 | Dotted | MY |
01:51.40 | Dotted | GOD |
01:51.42 | Dotted | WHAT |
01:51.43 | Dotted | A |
01:51.44 | Dotted | NUB |
01:51.47 | Dotted | KENCO |
01:51.48 | Dotted | IS |
01:51.49 | Dotted | ! |
01:51.50 | kenlyric | was that necessary? |
01:51.53 | Dotted | yes |
01:52.00 | Funkeh` | can you shut the fuck up? |
01:52.08 | Dotted | when you read it you will understand |
01:52.10 | kebinusan | ckknight: is there an option in dogtag to say always show 3 significant digits? like 5.43M, 543K, 4.23K 423 or something similar |
01:52.46 | NightHawkTheSane | there was really no excuse for that kind of spam, regardless of anything anyone said. |
01:52.47 | NightHawkTheSane | yeesh |
01:53.29 | kenlyric | this link is much better anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knzMFC6s4Bw |
01:54.31 | ckknight | kebinusan: :short |
01:54.42 | ckknight | kebinusan: I think. |
01:54.58 | ckknight | yep, it's :Short |
01:56.26 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40306 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
01:56.26 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
01:56.26 | CIA-22 | - Added nil check to see that class data actually has been loaded when requesting spell rank tables. |
01:56.35 | kebinusan | Ah ok I guess I was using very short |
01:56.38 | kebinusan | thanks |
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01:59.11 | trh_ | kenco answered to kaeltens posting btw |
01:59.29 | Starinnia | God Kenco frustrates me sometimes |
01:59.38 | kenlyric | lol |
01:59.57 | Starinnia | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_269476 |
02:00.04 | trh_ | Starinnia: i think it's pointless |
02:01.12 | Starinnia | trh_: yeah, my post was the last I'll say in public to Kenco, prolly in private too |
02:01.30 | trh_ | Starinnia: ya.. me too in that comments.. he doesn't listen to reason |
02:02.13 | Dotted | trh_ slow, i already said that :p |
02:02.22 | Dotted | and quite clealry i might add ^^ |
02:02.39 | trh_ | Dotted: i'm slow... i know ;) |
02:03.01 | sag_ich_nicht | so trh_ |
02:03.12 | sag_ich_nicht | listen to reason and stop using 2 channels for VanasKoS when it only needs one :P |
02:03.19 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: fu :P |
02:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: no, fix it :P |
02:03.44 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: but that is a different case because there is actually a reason for both channels :) |
02:03.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no there isn't |
02:04.07 | sag_ich_nicht | it does not matter if you use one or two |
02:04.08 | trh_ | sure.. less spamming the servers :) |
02:04.11 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
02:04.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it's the same amount of spam |
02:04.17 | trh_ | and elss traffic |
02:04.39 | sag_ich_nicht | the difference is what, 1 mb for 24 hours? |
02:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | that's not a reason to eat one chatchannel that could be used perfectly well for personal communication |
02:05.18 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: i might change to a global channel if i implement a nice incremental update algorithm and permanent storage of the lists |
02:05.29 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: start working on that |
02:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | now. |
02:05.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
02:05.39 | trh_ | na.. i'm going to bed soon :) |
02:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | start when you wake up then :P |
02:07.03 | Bruners | do warlocks gain spelldmg from stamina ? |
02:07.54 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
02:08.01 | trh_ | Bruners: nope.. |
02:08.26 | Bruners | got one here that says he gets it |
02:08.29 | Gagorian | ... |
02:08.39 | Gagorian | He's a retard, end of story |
02:08.57 | Gagorian | Well, it can have an effect through a few jumps though |
02:09.11 | trh_ | Bruners: well.. his stamins is a bonus to his pets stamina |
02:09.16 | Gagorian | You increase stamina by n, pet gets x*n stamina |
02:09.29 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r40307 10LittleWigs/ (CoT/BlackMorass.lua TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua): LittleWigs: Update some translation for zhTW (thanks huangtp) |
02:09.30 | trh_ | Bruners: and the pets stamina increases the spelldamage |
02:09.32 | Gagorian | Then through the talent you get y*x*n spelldamage |
02:09.45 | trh_ | Bruners: but i'm not sure if the pet stamins bonus is taken into account on spelldamage |
02:10.04 | Gagorian | It is |
02:10.51 | trh_ | but still.. the effect is so minor it shouldn't really show up |
02:11.18 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: depends on how much stamina he stacks :P |
02:11.29 | sag_ich_nicht | if he's pvping it might be quite a lot :P |
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02:11.42 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
02:11.46 | sag_ich_nicht | since when is littlewigs out? |
02:11.52 | Gagorian | well, 100 stamina is 4.5 spelldamage |
02:11.56 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: few months |
02:12.02 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
02:12.03 | trh_ | Gagorian: "woot" |
02:12.16 | Gagorian | :D |
02:12.31 | sag_ich_nicht | now i actually have a reason to install bigwigs >.> |
02:12.44 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: uh? why? |
02:12.59 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: littlewigs is independent from bigwigs afaik |
02:12.59 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: because littlewigs are just modules for bigwigs? :P |
02:13.30 | trh_ | oh ok |
02:13.33 | trh_ | they are modules |
02:13.37 | trh_ | thought it was standalone |
02:13.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
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02:14.44 | joshborkE | nn |
02:15.00 | ckknight | brb |
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02:16.54 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
02:17.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ClosetGnome_OhNoes is close to cheatin :O |
02:17.28 | hyperChipmunk | no, because sometimes it unequips your weapons and you don't die |
02:17.33 | hyperChipmunk | and you don't notice |
02:17.38 | sag_ich_nicht | that's why i said close :P |
02:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | i don't use it |
02:17.55 | hyperChipmunk | but it happens to my g/f sometimes |
02:17.58 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: hunters unequip everything before dieing ;) |
02:18.02 | sag_ich_nicht | +sometimes you die and it doesn't unequip them(lol crushing blows :O) |
02:18.06 | hyperChipmunk | hunters don't die |
02:18.18 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: sometimes it's unavoidable |
02:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't use it either, i just saw it in the aceupdater |
02:18.26 | sag_ich_nicht | and was like "lol cheatin" |
02:18.35 | hyperChipmunk | s/hunters/survival hunters/ |
02:18.42 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: go to netherspite :P |
02:18.56 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: and let your group wipe |
02:18.58 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno where that is |
02:19.07 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: karazhan |
02:19.23 | hyperChipmunk | nobody takes survival hunters to kharazan |
02:19.38 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: i am a retribution paladin and raidleader of a karazhan raid |
02:19.39 | trh_ | depends on your guild |
02:19.42 | trh_ | usually yes |
02:19.49 | sag_ich_nicht | so, people take survival hunters to kara. |
02:19.56 | hyperChipmunk | that was a joke =p |
02:19.58 | NightHawkTheSane | "Blimey, the end of the universe is a bit humbling." |
02:20.05 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40308 10Violation/ (Violation.toc embeds.xml): Violation: use an embeds.xml file |
02:20.39 | hyperChipmunk | wtf is up with FD resists btw |
02:20.53 | hyperChipmunk | I haven't had one in months |
02:20.58 | hyperChipmunk | and today I've had 7 or 8 |
02:20.59 | trh_ | not? |
02:21.07 | trh_ | i get permanently some |
02:21.11 | Dotted | new kenco repsonse :o |
02:21.16 | trh_ | feels like the changed the rate from 5% to 10% with 2.0 |
02:21.31 | hyperChipmunk | have improved FD? |
02:23.20 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40309 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Tracker.lua): |
02:23.20 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes a potential bug with graph window where layers are potentially the same not drawing in the correct order |
02:23.20 | CIA-22 | -Fixes a bug with real time healing windows not working |
02:23.33 | durcyn | it's in the patch notes, right? "Hunters: Improved the Improved Feign Death Talent by making unimproved suck." |
02:23.45 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40310 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Slight modification to filled line graphs |
02:23.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "How did you do that?" "While we were chatting away, I forgot to tell you. I'm brilliant!" |
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02:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | well, I was wondering if he had imp fd to ensure we were working off the same %ages |
02:24.37 | Gagorian | Kenco is like a brick wall, wasted effort to try to help him improve KTM.. |
02:24.45 | Gagorian | I'm so happy an alternative exists |
02:26.36 | cladhaire | nymbia: ping |
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02:27.55 | Snago | Anyone with wowace forum moderation privelages here that can do something about roIFba? |
02:28.23 | trh_ | ok.. tried to explain it to him.. i dont think he'll understand |
02:28.41 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40311 10Violation/embeds.xml: Violation: embeds bugfix |
02:30.50 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40312 10Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.toc embeds.xml): Threat-1.0: use embeds.xml |
02:30.55 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
02:31.00 | sag_ich_nicht | now i have to look up my worms install |
02:31.06 | sag_ich_nicht | and find the FF victory fanfar |
02:31.09 | sag_ich_nicht | e |
02:31.12 | hyperChipmunk | Fatality! |
02:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and replace the one in bigswig with that one |
02:31.20 | sag_ich_nicht | *bigwigs |
02:31.22 | hyperChipmunk | FF? |
02:31.34 | sag_ich_nicht | final fantasy D: |
02:31.48 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
02:31.53 | sag_ich_nicht | damn, i only have it installed on my laptop |
02:31.56 | hyperChipmunk | the worms final fantasy fanfare? |
02:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: i have a sound addon pack for worms |
02:32.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and it comes with the victory fanfare from FF in it |
02:32.28 | hyperChipmunk | but that's already in bigwigs |
02:32.28 | sag_ich_nicht | only it's a bit longer than the version used in bigwigs |
02:32.37 | hyperChipmunk | ah, it has the whole thing? |
02:32.43 | hyperChipmunk | sec, i have that track i think |
02:33.11 | sag_ich_nicht | heh :D |
02:35.22 | hyperChipmunk | can't find it =P |
02:36.21 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: ping |
02:36.41 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: damn |
02:36.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i cba to boot my laptop now |
02:37.00 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
02:37.09 | Snago | sag_ich_nicht: I have the track from the OST |
02:37.19 | Snago | want it? |
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02:37.52 | NightHawkTheSane | which ost? hell, which FF fanfare? they were slightly different in different games |
02:37.56 | Funkeh` | cladhaire: ping |
02:38.04 | cladhaire | hi |
02:38.08 | Snago | FF VI |
02:38.13 | Funkeh` | you still ahve wowace admin right? |
02:38.17 | Funkeh` | or mod |
02:38.23 | cladhaire | is no one else taking care of it? |
02:38.40 | cladhaire | i'll take care of the post |
02:38.45 | Funkeh` | ok |
02:38.48 | cladhaire | but someone needs to talk to kaelten to figure out what he wants to do |
02:38.52 | cladhaire | just link them here |
02:38.55 | cladhaire | i only got two reported. |
02:39.27 | Vorda | Right, weird question.. |
02:39.41 | Vorda | Is it possible that the latest Aceevent 2.0 is causing error 132 crashes? |
02:39.43 | NightHawkTheSane | don't worry, we have weird answers. |
02:40.00 | Vorda | I've had them ever since I did an update and the memory crashlogs all have 1 line in common: |
02:40.01 | Vorda | 0012F580: 44 42 47 3A 41 63 65 45 76 65 6E 74 32 30 46 72 DBG:AceEvent20Fr |
02:40.01 | Vorda | 0012F590: 61 6D 65 00 D0 F5 12 00 B4 13 28 16 B6 3A 69 00 ame.......(..:i. |
02:40.38 | Funkeh` | Vorda its a wow error |
02:40.42 | Funkeh` | it will be fixed in 2.1.2 |
02:41.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40313 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
02:41.24 | CIA-22 | Cartographer - change the guildSpammer from a push situation to a pull, e.g. |
02:41.24 | CIA-22 | when someone opens their map, they request position for that zone/continent. |
02:41.24 | CIA-22 | They also request again every 5 seconds (or more depending on guild members) or |
02:41.24 | CIA-22 | whenever they change zones/continents. On the other end, when a request is |
02:41.27 | CIA-22 | received, a whisper is sent to the other person detailing the position. |
02:41.27 | CIA-22 | Note: This will receive old guild spams from previous versions, but previous versions will not be able to see the new positions. |
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02:41.49 | Vorda | I know the 'error 132' phenomenom in general, and obviously ran memtest. Just abit weird how it always crashes with aceevent 2.0 in my memory |
02:42.08 | ckknight | Vorda: it's supposedly fixed in WoW 2.1.2 |
02:42.18 | hyperChipmunk | sag_ich_nicht: http://69.14.77.214/ff7victory.mp3 |
02:42.20 | Vorda | Oh, its a new error they added? |
02:42.23 | hyperChipmunk | not the one I was thinking of though |
02:42.26 | Vorda | yay |
02:42.55 | ckknight | did CIA catch my Cartographer guild spammer commit? |
02:43.00 | Vorda | yeah |
02:43.07 | ckknight | okay |
02:43.07 | cladhaire | banned. |
02:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: 403 |
02:43.12 | ckknight | banned? |
02:43.16 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
02:43.18 | ckknight | well, please test it out |
02:43.22 | cladhaire | yes, the keylogger spammer |
02:43.23 | cladhaire | he's banned |
02:43.26 | cladhaire | since no one else wants to do it. |
02:43.31 | Gagorian | ckknight: Some spammer who posted keyloggers in form of Nihilum videos |
02:43.32 | hyperChipmunk | try now |
02:43.37 | ckknight | Gagorian: ah |
02:44.12 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: not the one i was thinking of either |
02:44.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i wouldn't want that one D: |
02:44.24 | sag_ich_nicht | but thanks for the effort |
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02:45.02 | Vorda | Nothing I can do about it till 2.1.2 though? (1 raid night till the patch, doubt they will like a dropping raid leader ;) ) |
02:45.18 | hypetech | Anybody know a video editing channel here on freenode? |
02:45.39 | Funkeh` | cladhaire: <3 thanks |
02:45.46 | cladhaire | no problem |
02:46.23 | ckknight | Vorda: what UF you using? |
02:46.35 | Gagorian | If this becomes an increasing problem perhaps the forums could use a few more general moderators? |
02:46.58 | ckknight | Vorda: if you're using PitBull or agUF, I can guess you'll have issues. I suggest switching to something along the lines of PerfectRaid or sRF temporarily |
02:47.00 | Vorda | Pitbuul |
02:47.02 | Gagorian | Cause those bastards seem to infest every wow related forum :( |
02:47.07 | Vorda | *ll |
02:47.20 | abyssichate | By the way, has Blizzard said anything else about the upcoming changes over warlocks? |
02:47.24 | ckknight | Vorda: or actually, there's a specific revision of PitBull that works |
02:47.31 | Vorda | Oh, that would be great! |
02:47.47 | ckknight | Vorda: r39408 |
02:47.49 | Vorda | I was wondering something like that, since I havent had the problem till I updated today |
02:48.14 | Vorda | great, I'll give it a shot :) much appreciated! (now I wont have to run prime95 the entire night aswell) |
02:48.45 | ckknight | why would you run prime95? |
02:49.08 | Vorda | Because the blizzard forum sticky mentions it might be related to system instability |
02:49.25 | Vorda | and that was the only thing I had left, before I noticed how AceEvent 2.0 appeared in all my memory log files |
02:50.29 | Vorda | Weird how I didnt manage to find anything about it on the common WoW forums though, is the error that rare? (the addon related crash) |
02:50.30 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, this weeks who is great, and a little bit "what the crap?" |
02:50.48 | wobin_ | NightHawkTheSane: huh? |
02:51.07 | Vorda | (or does my searching ability just plain suck) |
02:51.19 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: there's a bunch of things that just come almost out of nowhere in the episode. |
02:51.28 | NightHawkTheSane | not that it's bad, its just weird. |
02:51.30 | wobin_ | oh Who? =P |
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02:51.37 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, Who. |
02:51.40 | NightHawkTheSane | that's what i said. |
02:51.41 | Gagorian | It's nice that Antiarc posted that testing script for FPS.. more and more pople are testing KTM and writing posts about it :P |
02:51.55 | wobin_ | no you said "Wow, this weeks who is great..." |
02:51.59 | Gagorian | Kenco still manages to shrug them off though |
02:52.05 | wobin_ | and I thought so, who is this weeks who is great? |
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02:52.31 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: yeah, uh, lets just stop before this turns into a who's on first. :) |
02:52.41 | wobin_ | what's on second |
02:52.58 | wobin_ | Gagorian: But it doesn't count |
02:53.15 | wobin_ | cause as Kenco says, you can never have a valid benchmark testing environment |
02:53.24 | wobin_ | It's ALL WRONG |
02:53.36 | Gagorian | But of course.. |
02:54.23 | Gagorian | He wants to test it in such conditions, that it is actually impossible to benchmark it in repeatably.. Thus making it impossible to get any reliable results. And thus he can say KTM is fine. |
02:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Gagorian: you know what the absolute worst part of that whole thing is? It's the absolute -idiots- who spout pointless gibberish like "time to upgrade your computer" or "stop playing on a 386" |
02:55.11 | Gagorian | NightHawkTheSane: Indeed. They're completely missing the point. |
02:55.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Gagorian: not just missing the point, they're not even in the same universe of discourse. |
02:55.37 | Xuerian | SurpriseBUTTYIFF! |
02:57.04 | Gagorian | Well, lets say 50 addons used OnUpdate and other heavy polling based design, even these guys running other computers than 386 (that their daddy bought, btw) would notice something. |
02:57.04 | wobin_ | It took me a couple of reads to get that =P |
02:57.11 | wobin_ | Obviously I don't read enough furryporn =P |
02:57.35 | Xuerian | wobin_: I thought this conversation could use a dose of [Serious] |
02:57.38 | Xuerian | :) |
02:57.41 | wobin_ | srly |
02:57.52 | wobin_ | s/srly/srsly/ |
02:58.13 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40314 10EnchantingSell/ (3 files): |
02:58.13 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
02:58.13 | CIA-22 | - remember armor filter when closing/opening ES within the same game session |
02:58.13 | CIA-22 | - fixed bug that prevented storing newly learned enchants. |
02:59.15 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40315 10Auction-1.0/: |
02:59.15 | CIA-22 | Auction-1.0: |
02:59.15 | CIA-22 | - added tsvn:logtemplate |
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03:00.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40316 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
03:00.33 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - remove OfflineTime and AFKTime tags, instead merge with Offline and AFK tags. |
03:00.33 | CIA-22 | - Offline now returns blank or "Offline (1:23)" |
03:00.33 | CIA-22 | - AFK now returns blank or "AFK (1:23)" |
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03:02.23 | Funkeh` | is that a real time timer? |
03:02.59 | ckknight | if by that you mean it updates every second |
03:03.01 | ckknight | then yes |
03:03.09 | Funkeh` | nice |
03:03.24 | Funkeh` | something i missed when i dumped ctraid over a year ago |
03:03.35 | ckknight | now you can be like "wtf, this rogue has spent 8 minutes on the can. it only takes me 4. /kick" |
03:03.44 | ckknight | well, now I stole it! |
03:03.45 | Funkeh` | yeah |
03:03.46 | ckknight | mine now |
03:03.50 | Funkeh` | :p |
03:06.11 | hypetech | anybody here do any video editing from fraps captures? |
03:07.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40317 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - update AFK and Offline timers twice as fast now, to not be so choppy. |
03:07.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:55] <NightHawkTheSane> Gagorian: not just missing the point, they're not even in the same universe of discourse. <--or, to say it differently, they are not even wrong. :O |
03:07.27 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: well, no. but maybe i can help you anyway |
03:07.42 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: .blizzardTooltip is not anywhere in FuBarPlugin's wiki doc |
03:07.48 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, but I like the term universe of discourse :) |
03:07.54 | hyperChipmunk | sag_ich_nicht: hypetech is the one you're looking for |
03:08.10 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: also, I'm not sure i understand independentProfile |
03:08.41 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: without it, profiles are synced with FuBar |
03:08.44 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
03:08.45 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
03:08.48 | ckknight | with it, the profile isn't synced |
03:08.50 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry, yeah, bad tab key D: |
03:08.55 | hyperChipmunk | gotcha |
03:08.59 | sag_ich_nicht | hypetech: well, no. but maybe i can help you anyway |
03:09.00 | hyperChipmunk | that makes sense |
03:09.03 | Gagorian | uh, is UnitCreatureFamily( "unit" ) localized? |
03:09.06 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: lemme document .blizzardTooltip... |
03:09.13 | ckknight | Gagorian: I think so |
03:09.45 | Gagorian | Well, that sucks then.. Strange I haven't had any complaints from other locales |
03:09.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea, because setting .blizzardTooltip to true gives BulkMail2\BulkMailFu.lua:41: Tablet-2.0: You must set hint within a registration. |
03:09.56 | hyperChipmunk | and there's no documentation on why |
03:10.20 | ckknight | oh, basically, cause Tablet no longer handles it, use GameTooltip:AddLine instead |
03:10.30 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
03:10.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's the type of thing you'd expect to be in the doc though =) |
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03:11.36 | ckknight | well, it's doc'd now |
03:11.48 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
03:12.39 | Gagorian | Humm. No tablet dependancy if that is set? |
03:13.47 | hyperChipmunk | well it obviously depends on what else you do with it |
03:14.00 | hyperChipmunk | but yea |
03:14.47 | hyperChipmunk | I like the way skinner skins GameTooltip =P |
03:15.06 | hyperChipmunk | so i'm changing BulkMail to that (even though it uses tablet for other things) |
03:15.28 | hyperChipmunk | since all it really is is a hint |
03:17.16 | hyperChipmunk | also, AceLocale not throwing errors on nonpresent translations makes me all kinds of happy |
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03:18.07 | wobin_ | hurrah |
03:18.11 | wobin_ | finally =P |
03:18.20 | hyperChipmunk | dude kenco is really a jerk |
03:19.10 | Peoii | *sniff* he drove me to actually register for a curse account. |
03:19.17 | Peoii | granted, I'll never, ever, post there again... but good god. |
03:19.24 | hyperChipmunk | wobin_: paypal? |
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03:19.36 | wobin_ | hyperChipmunk: Sure! |
03:20.23 | hyperChipmunk | sounds like a worthy fund |
03:20.27 | hyperChipmunk | but i don't see a link |
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03:20.58 | wobin_ | meh |
03:21.07 | wobin_ | I thought I had one up on my user site =P |
03:21.18 | wobin_ | I should edit that post and put a link =) |
03:21.20 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
03:23.21 | wobin_ | hm |
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03:23.27 | wobin_ | didn't curse used to have a paypal link? |
03:23.38 | wobin_ | on the addons page, or was that ui.worldofwar? |
03:23.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40318 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - optimize the guild spammer slightly |
03:24.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40319 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix a bug with multiple copies of the same unit checking the AFK status. |
03:27.05 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40320 10BunchOfBars/BunchOfBars.toc: |
03:27.05 | CIA-22 | BunchOfBars: |
03:27.05 | CIA-22 | - Added missing Path to AceComm to Toc |
03:27.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40321 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix a typo before the syntax aficionados find me. |
03:30.48 | nymbia | cladhaire: pong |
03:31.59 | kebinusan | http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/WizzleMcSwizzle/mooninites.jpg heh |
03:33.11 | ckknight | hehe |
03:35.34 | wobin_ | ckknight: whisper? using the whisper addon channel, no? |
03:37.07 | ckknight | yes. |
03:37.14 | Gagorian | Hurmm, can GameTooltip justify lines to center? |
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03:37.25 | ckknight | nope |
03:37.27 | ckknight | I've tried |
03:37.58 | Thrae | Gagorian: GameTooltip is made up of Left and Right fontstrings -- it could get messy, but you could try |
03:38.24 | QQngsk | how do I switch the default totem for an element using yata? |
03:38.34 | Gagorian | Yeah I guess it's doable, just not worth the trouble |
03:38.40 | Gagorian | I'll just add some blank space to my string :p |
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03:44.30 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40322 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc libs/): |
03:44.30 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
03:44.30 | CIA-22 | - Removed Tablet from externals. |
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03:51.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40323 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - allow sorting without scriptProfile |
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03:56.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i go to bed now, good night. |
03:57.08 | Gagorian | Kaelten: Kenco has done it again. |
04:00.13 | Kaelten | I'll take that challenge and render results |
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04:01.39 | trh_ | the funny thing is that his tests are probably hundredthousands of calls of his onframeevent function |
04:01.51 | trh_ | which are more pointless than fps comparisments |
04:02.03 | trh_ | because his routines get into the l1 cache and will be executed in no time |
04:02.16 | Kaelten | I've found in the past that fps comparisons are fairly informative |
04:02.22 | Kaelten | maybe not the best in the world but informative |
04:02.36 | trh_ | ya.. more informative then calling frameonevent millions of times |
04:02.49 | Peoii | They're a valid benchmark that's applicable to all forms without intervention of someone elses code. Very valid. |
04:02.57 | hyperChipmunk | well, informative or not, they reflect what really matters to the gamer |
04:03.08 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: true.. but they aren't very accurate |
04:03.13 | Peoii | We use them at work all the time as a measure of consumer feel. |
04:03.21 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: but if dozens of users tell they gain 10% fps it should say something |
04:03.40 | Kaelten | yep |
04:03.47 | Kaelten | I'm updating my laptop to run said tests |
04:03.58 | kebinusan | When I set NPC Color By Hostility on and Class Color for my target frame in pitbull, the bar is still hostility colored for players battlegrounds |
04:04.29 | Gagorian | Besides, in fact there is no need for any onupdate methods or hardly any polling based calculation. It's all a waste of CPU, he can't argue against that. |
04:04.38 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: how do you avoid the duplicated menu items when independentProfile = true |
04:05.29 | Peoii | Gagorian: Ahhh, but in his own little deluded mind, he can, and has already won that battle. See, we're not speaking against logic here, we're speaking against one persons perception on reality. That's a very tuff thing to convince someone is wrong. |
04:06.24 | Xuerian | -NaN post rating ftw |
04:06.45 | Peoii | Hell, I've been guilty of it in the past myself. "My code isn't the problem", and sure enough, later on, we'd find out it was. Took a couple tries, but now? I listen a little more carefully when people approach me... and I look things over twice more just incase. |
04:07.09 | Kaelten | Peoii: one of the rules of the pragmattic programmer. |
04:07.52 | Peoii | Kaelten: All to true. |
04:10.22 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: duplicated menu items? |
04:11.00 | Kaelten | signing back in to that same wall |
04:11.01 | Kaelten | :s |
04:11.33 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: give me a moment; making a visual aid =) |
04:11.51 | ckknight | k |
04:11.59 | Xuerian | Is wowbench operational? |
04:12.33 | kebinusan | ckknight, If I uncheck Hostility Coloring on the target frame, and select only hostility coloring for NPCs I still get a hostility colored health bar for player characters |
04:13.32 | ckknight | hrm, odd |
04:13.45 | Borked|Raider | In 2.1 they added or changed some API for checking timeleft on buffs/debufss ect. cant remember, but if a priest cast pwf on a player can the priest the nget the timeleft on that buff or? |
04:14.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... |
04:14.09 | kebinusan | hmm lemme reload I just got a dogtag error may have updated in game |
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04:15.39 | NightHawkTheSane | So, if anyone's curious, I did the same test as Antiarc just now.. |
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04:16.03 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: If it doesn't agree with Kenco, it's worthless |
04:16.04 | Antiarc | FYI |
04:16.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Standing in Shattrath (Aldor Rise, few people wandering around), with my normal addon set.. KTM would degrade my FPS by 6-18% And this is on a machine that only really pulls 30 fps staring at a blank wall. 10 fps in raids, if i'm lucky. |
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04:16.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: oh, obviously. :) |
04:17.15 | Lywellyn | I keep getting an error from the AceAddon-2.0 lib of Ace2 itself whenever the UI is loaded, can anyone help me debug? |
04:17.30 | Xuerian | Peoii: Pwn. |
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04:17.51 | kebinusan | ckknight: never mind Im dumb theres a seperate option for color by class for pvp targets |
04:17.55 | Peoii | Xuerian: ? |
04:18.18 | Xuerian | [English] Peoii: Nice comment. |
04:18.21 | kebinusan | I assumed just color npcs by hostility and color by class would accomplish the same thing |
04:18.43 | Peoii | Xuerian: Ahhh, gotcha ;) Thanks, I just thought it was well... honest. |
04:18.53 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: n/m, not related to independent profile |
04:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | And now that I wasted an hour of my life proving something we all already knew, I'm going to make dinner and watch Empire Records. |
04:18.55 | ckknight | kebinusan: *thumbs up* |
04:19.04 | ckknight | Lywellyn: sure. |
04:19.25 | Kemayo | I just saw a level 59 warrior ask in chat "How do I use talent points if I am an enchanter?". The mind, it boggles. |
04:19.37 | Lywellyn | The actual error is: Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:729:attempt to index local 'current' (a nil value) |
04:19.45 | Lywellyn | And....I looked at it, and I have no idea what to do. XD |
04:19.50 | Peoii | Kemayo: Real warriors spec 0/0/0 |
04:20.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: That question defies so many laws of logic, that I think I can see rifts in time and space start forming. |
04:20.45 | wobin_ | Kemayo: I've seen similar, one of the rogues in my guild was 54 before he asked about what talent points were |
04:21.31 | ckknight | Lywellyn: mind providing a full debugstack? |
04:21.41 | Lywellyn | 'kay, one sec. |
04:22.46 | Kemayo | It's just hard to fathom. |
04:23.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40324 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: .DogTag-1.0 - add a timer to the Dead tag |
04:23.12 | ckknight | BankZ: ^--- |
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04:23.54 | Lywellyn | okay...my swatter isn't working atm....have to restart the client. |
04:24.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40325 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove debug line. |
04:24.13 | ckknight | BugSack? |
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04:25.52 | Lywellyn | kay, bugsack installed. Never really used it because Swatter worked just fine. I wonder if it was just because my swatter log filled up too much? lol |
04:27.51 | ckknight | *shrug* |
04:28.42 | Lywellyn | yeah, that must've been it. I got the conflict error between swatter and bugsack. |
04:28.49 | Lywellyn | do I just post the debug stack in here? |
04:28.57 | ckknight | no, ace.pastey.net |
04:29.13 | Lywellyn | it's Fubar causing it. |
04:30.05 | kebinusan | Antiarc, just got this error with the most recent threatlib: [2007/06/17 00:29:33-1713-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:712: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
04:30.24 | kebinusan | When summoning my pet or zoning in to an arena Im not sure which exactly |
04:30.26 | Antiarc | kebinusan: I saw that pop up once when I used a shadowfiend - did you summon a pet or something? |
04:30.27 | Antiarc | Yup. |
04:30.28 | Lywellyn | http://ace.pastey.net/57005 |
04:30.41 | Antiarc | It's harmless, but annoying. Race condition thing. I'll get it fixed. |
04:31.18 | trh | Xuerian: omg ;) |
04:31.19 | KhaKii | rofl |
04:31.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: what the crap? |
04:31.33 | trh | Xuerian: but kenco is > 50, so the guy on the picture is a bit too young |
04:31.55 | wobin_ | Kenco is greater than NINE THOUSAND |
04:32.20 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: I've /b/een corrupted >.o |
04:33.03 | Lywellyn | that's /b/ad! |
04:33.05 | Thrae | My addon takes up over NINE-THOUSAND bytes!!!!11one |
04:33.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: your mom takes over nine thousand bytes |
04:34.09 | wobin_ | Kemayo: the script running thing for wowace.py doesn't seem to work =( |
04:35.33 | wobin_ | Kemayo: oh arguments in the wrong order |
04:37.30 | trh | i'm going to bed.. already 6:30 am... good nite guys |
04:37.59 | KhaKii | night :p |
04:38.15 | wobin_ | actually.. |
04:38.27 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: morning |
04:38.28 | wobin_ | in python does the argument order matter if you name the arguments in the call? |
04:38.55 | chuckg | Is there a language where the argument order doesn't matter? |
04:40.04 | ckknight | yes, python |
04:40.07 | ckknight | wobin_: it doesn't matter |
04:40.21 | wobin_ | kk |
04:40.27 | ckknight | chuckg: named arguments, not listed arguments |
04:40.30 | hyperChipmunk | chuckg: one would presume that's the point of naming them |
04:40.31 | wobin_ | why isn't it running the script though =( |
04:40.45 | Antiarc | chuckg: Ruby, kinda |
04:40.57 | chuckg | ...aren't all arguments named? |
04:41.04 | chuckg | function( arg1 ) |
04:41.06 | chuckg | Is named arg1. |
04:41.08 | Antiarc | No, it's like |
04:41.36 | Antiarc | In ruby, you can call foo(:bar => "123", :baz => "321") or foo(:baz => "321", :bar => "123") and have the same values for baz and bar in foo |
04:41.45 | chuckg | Right. |
04:41.55 | chuckg | I understand the concept, just haven't really seen it. |
04:42.08 | Antiarc | (the actual implementation is basically just passing a hash to a method that takes a single parameter) |
04:43.24 | Funkeh` | zz bored |
04:43.46 | Funkeh` | nymbia you suck |
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04:44.57 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: fixed-width IRC ftw |
04:44.59 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
04:45.22 | Kemayo | wobin_: Which addon were you trying it on? |
04:45.29 | wobin_ | Pitbull |
04:46.02 | Kemayo | wobin_: Give me the command-line you were trying? |
04:46.15 | wobin_ | python wowace.py -s PitBull |
04:46.20 | NightHawkTheSane | "She hates me." "Yeah, she hates me too, but I have enough sense to hate her back." |
04:46.58 | Funkeh` | i hate you |
04:47.03 | Funkeh` | feel better? |
04:47.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. yes i do. |
04:47.55 | Funkeh` | cool |
04:47.56 | Kemayo | Oh. |
04:49.24 | wobin_ | yay! |
04:49.26 | wobin_ | Oh is good =) |
04:50.30 | wobin_ | hm, it won't run if it's not updated, will it? |
04:50.39 | Kemayo | Nope |
04:50.47 | wobin_ | but if I update with default arguments, it won't run the script either |
04:51.05 | wobin_ | or will it? |
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04:51.39 | Lywellyn | Cool. Join on connect is fun. |
04:51.54 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Any progress? Just curious, I'mma have to be going to bed soon :3 |
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04:52.31 | ckknight | Lywellyn: I'm a bit busy, I'll check into it when I can |
04:52.39 | Kemayo | wobin_: Okay, just committed a change. I now os.chdir to the addon directory before running the script. :D |
04:52.50 | wobin_ | hehe =) |
04:52.52 | wobin_ | kk |
04:54.12 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40326 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua BulkMailFu.lua): |
04:54.12 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
04:54.12 | CIA-22 | - .blizzardTooltip for FuBar plugin |
04:54.24 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40327 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua): Omen: Fixes to the test bars, made addBar a local function (oops!) |
04:54.36 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40328 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMailFu.lua BulkMailInbox-enUS.lua): |
04:54.36 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
04:54.36 | CIA-22 | - .blizzardTooltip for FuBar plugin |
04:58.51 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Okay, that's fine, I thought I'd just ask |
04:59.11 | Xuerian | Ok, fair warning, this is nsfw, but I have to link before going afk XD http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182055581102.jpg |
04:59.26 | wobin_ | Kemayo: It's returning file not found |
04:59.37 | wobin_ | sh: pitbulllod.sh: not found |
04:59.40 | Lywellyn | Okay, when I changed my name back to Lywellyn, it re-told me it's registered. >< How do I prevent that, or set up an auto-identify in mIRC? |
04:59.55 | Kemayo | Hmmmm. |
05:00.03 | Lywellyn | Xuerian: Damnit! XD |
05:00.54 | Antiarc | Is Vampiric Touch affected by Shadow Affinity or Silent Resolve? |
05:00.58 | Antiarc | I'd think SA |
05:01.14 | kenlyric | should be shadow affinity. |
05:01.17 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r40329 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: |
05:01.17 | CIA-22 | Bartender3: |
05:01.17 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
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05:02.15 | kenlyric | even the healing from VE is considered a shadow effect, I believe. |
05:02.30 | Antiarc | I'd think so, yeah |
05:02.36 | Antiarc | I'm getting some slightly odd numbers |
05:02.39 | Antiarc | Just trying to nail down the reason |
05:04.40 | Killmore | Antiarc |
05:04.41 | Killmore | [2007/06/17 01:04:44-69-x2]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Priest.lua:52: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'shadowAffinityMod' (a nil value) --- |
05:04.51 | Killmore | got 0pts in shadow affinity |
05:05.02 | Killmore | every time my Sw:p thick, got this error |
05:05.02 | Antiarc | Heh, I wasn't modding it with SA, that's why |
05:05.07 | Antiarc | Hrm, ok |
05:05.24 | Antiarc | Thanks :) |
05:05.27 | Antiarc | Fixing it |
05:05.55 | wobin_ | off to get some food |
05:06.38 | Thorgard^2 | Man, Kenco's KTM threat meter mod page comments are a great bedtime read. |
05:06.57 | Gnarfoz | I concur |
05:07.08 | Antiarc | Thorgard^2: FPS is an unimportant performance measurement metric |
05:07.09 | binder | does heroism have the same buff icon as bloodlust? |
05:07.10 | Gnarfoz | off to bed for some few hours :> |
05:07.26 | Gnarfoz | binder: don't think so |
05:07.35 | binder | Thorgard^2 what's his ktm threat meter page? |
05:07.50 | Gnarfoz | binder: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2825 http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32182 |
05:07.51 | Thorgard^2 | Antiarc, damn straight. ;P Alls I care about is the polling speed on my mouse.. that's where the magic happens. Screw FPS. |
05:08.01 | Gnarfoz | binder: also: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comments |
05:08.02 | Gnarfoz | ;-) |
05:08.14 | Thorgard^2 | binder, http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
05:08.15 | kenlyric | your mouse needs "lazers" |
05:08.37 | Thorgard^2 | Lazer beams, for sure. |
05:09.42 | Lywellyn | pewpewpewpew |
05:10.08 | Kemayo | wobin_: Okay, should have fixed that. I was testing on windows -- forgot that on *nix I'd need to be executing ./script.sh. |
05:10.42 | wobin_ | ^^ |
05:10.59 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40330 10Omen/ (Omen.toc embeds.xml): Omen: use embeds.xml |
05:11.34 | Antiarc | Ok, KTM modifies VE with Silent Resolve, not Shadow Affinity |
05:11.58 | Antiarc | No idea if that's actually right or not. |
05:12.00 | Funkeh` | i reckon thats wrong |
05:12.08 | wobin_ | Kemayo: hehe I'll have to sudo the run now =) |
05:12.14 | Antiarc | I'm gonna go test it right now :) |
05:12.20 | Funkeh` | i have less threat on ktm that i do on Threat-1.0 so explain that :p |
05:12.24 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: o_0 why? |
05:12.29 | wobin_ | or not |
05:12.30 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Your version doesn't mod VE at all |
05:12.38 | Antiarc | (I just discovered that bug as well :P) |
05:12.41 | Funkeh` | WTF |
05:12.44 | Funkeh` | :p |
05:12.52 | Antiarc | Then I modded it with SA and Threat was way under KTM |
05:13.00 | Antiarc | Then I modded it with SR and Threat matched KTM |
05:13.04 | Funkeh` | sounds more believable |
05:13.06 | Antiarc | I'm gonna go test it to see which is right. |
05:13.19 | Antiarc | VE is neither Disc or Holy |
05:13.19 | Kemayo | wobin_: It may well still complain if anyone is including scripts without setting the appropriate svn props to make them executable, of course. |
05:13.21 | Antiarc | So I dunno |
05:13.32 | Antiarc | It makes sense to affect it with SA rather than SR |
05:13.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: you could always do sh ./script.sh |
05:14.13 | NightHawkTheSane | that way they don't need to be +x |
05:14.59 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: Pfft, that way I need different code-paths for unix and windows. :P |
05:15.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: *gasp* |
05:15.43 | wobin_ | NightHawkTheSane: It's not allowing me to do the directory removal etc without sudoing |
05:15.54 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: I bet i know why. |
05:16.24 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: the changelogs in the zips have no permissions (000), so you can't -do- anything to them without a chmod or a sudo. |
05:16.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I've mentioned this before, to Kaelten I think. |
05:17.48 | Kemayo | That does sound like something that should be changed. |
05:18.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Yes, it should. They ought to be 644 |
05:18.57 | kenlyric | 777! |
05:20.22 | NightHawkTheSane | gahh.. the audio on this gets out of sync at some point. >< |
05:22.06 | Thorgard^2 | NightHawkTheSane, so adjust it. ;P |
05:26.46 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a pain in the ass :P |
05:27.09 | hyperChipmunk | num+/num- |
05:27.17 | Funkeh` | later folks |
05:31.04 | Lyfe | wow, that's weird. I've got errors about the Thread lib embedded in Omen & Violation, but not out of ThreatLib itself (yeah, I have all 3 installed, i'm weird) |
05:31.29 | art3mis | got that topic is so awesome |
05:31.42 | art3mis | hey wobin btw what are you running right now as a system? |
05:35.21 | Antiarc | Lyfe: All 3 are up to date? |
05:37.27 | ckknight | hey all, back |
05:38.48 | NightHawkTheSane | front! |
05:39.44 | nymbia | left! |
05:40.40 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40331 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
05:40.40 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
05:40.40 | CIA-22 | - Boss: koKR Update |
05:41.45 | ckknight | sidewards! |
05:43.46 | ckknight | we must move forwards, not backwards; upwards, not forwards; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom. |
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05:44.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hehehe |
05:44.59 | Lywellyn|Away | Don't mind me, screwing with IRC stuff >.> <.< |
05:48.52 | Lywellyn | I sorry ;_; |
05:49.03 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, dont be sorry, ckknight's a dick |
05:49.58 | ckknight | lol |
05:50.27 | Lyfe | Antiarc: i believe so. (I would have responded earlier, but my dsl died). |
05:50.43 | Antiarc | Hm. You should only be getting errors from one copy. |
05:51.00 | Lyfe | 40330 on omen. |
05:51.36 | Lyfe | well, i'm suprised i'm getting errors at all, honestly. i deleted the embedded Threat-1.0 directories in both Omen and Violation, and no errors. |
05:51.47 | Kaelten | ya I'm not sure why that have no permissions though |
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05:54.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40332 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - no longer use RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE or PARTY_LEADER_CHANGED, because after testing, they seem pointless. |
05:54.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40333 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix a typo |
05:58.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: my first guess would be the script generating the changelog files, might be an issue with what user that's running as, or something with how it's writing the files? |
05:58.39 | NightHawkTheSane | But Having really no idea how that all works on the back end, I'm just randomly guessing |
05:58.55 | Kaelten | ya probably |
05:59.08 | Kaelten | I guess I could have the script run a chmod 777 on each file as it generates it |
05:59.20 | NightHawkTheSane | 644 would be best, actually. |
05:59.28 | Kaelten | ya |
06:02.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40334 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - keep track of offline/online through PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED instead of PARTY_MEMBER_ENABLE/DISABLE, as that isn't accurate. |
06:06.09 | KarlThePagan | YOU DON'T NEED THOSE EXTRA FRAMES Kaelten! what a waste! |
06:06.19 | KarlThePagan | omfg..... |
06:06.39 | NightHawkTheSane | can I have Kaelten's extra frames? |
06:06.45 | KarlThePagan | yes me too |
06:07.10 | KarlThePagan | "Omen - because some people need their extra frames" |
06:07.16 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlThePagan: lol |
06:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hm.. empire records is a pretty good movie, even if the last half was totally out of sync |
06:08.50 | Kaelten | heh |
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06:14.02 | nymbia | it's great how he denies that anyone could use the extra processor power |
06:14.13 | nymbia | just because Kaelten needs to turn on his vsync |
06:14.17 | nymbia | gawd what a noob |
06:14.51 | KarlThePagan | at this point I would have to question his professional expertise if he has any... he's really grasping at straws to stick to his update polling mechanism |
06:14.55 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: yeah, him and the idiots who make the same arguments make my head hurt. |
06:15.11 | NightHawkTheSane | The irony being that for me, wow is 100% cpu limited. |
06:15.18 | nymbia | of course, nobody's gonna have any machines that get pushed under the vsync threshold by KTM's eatage |
06:15.21 | KarlThePagan | same here |
06:15.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I've got plenty of memory, a capable video card, but my cpu just cant keep with them |
06:16.23 | KarlThePagan | people get pissy when they're told that their code is shit |
06:16.40 | KarlThePagan | there's no way around it... it's the first mark of an immature developer |
06:17.25 | nymbia | i will hear no insinuations about kenco's mad skillz! |
06:17.30 | Lywellyn | o.O |
06:19.56 | nymbia | ewww |
06:20.47 | nymbia | ~smite hyperChipmunk |
06:20.56 | purl | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves hyperChipmunk from crown to sole. |
06:20.56 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
06:22.18 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r40335 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
06:22.18 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
06:22.19 | CIA-22 | - Loot improvements |
06:22.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40336 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - slight optimization |
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06:23.42 | Jaxon | I should start mirroring the comments on Curse to put into a wiki page or something. |
06:24.12 | KarlThePagan | we need a summary of these arguments on wowwiki... I deffinately think so |
06:24.30 | stavmar | weird question and sorry if it has been asked. What is the recommended verion of Pitbull to be using due to the bug issues that will not be fixes till 2.1.2? |
06:24.42 | stavmar | fixed* |
06:24.56 | Jaxon | stavmar: the login message lists a revision. |
06:25.19 | stavmar | yeah i ma not logged in i thought maybe someone would know? |
06:28.04 | hyperChipmunk | 39408 |
06:28.04 | stavmar | do you know if this was affecting FPS in raids or groups, or is it a different bug that is being addressed? |
06:28.10 | ckknight | stavmar: r39408 |
06:28.19 | stavmar | thank you hyperChipmunk and ckknight |
06:29.25 | Jaxon | stavmar: I believe it was a client crash. |
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06:30.58 | stavmar | Jaxon: I really never ran into a client crash but maybe once and I update teh Pitbull addon at least once per day. I was concerned when I read about this bug because I just recently got my guild to switch and I want to make sure everything is in order so they all dont freak out on me :-( |
06:31.40 | Jaxon | I think it has something to do with bring grouped, something getting corrected in 2.1.2 but I haven't checked out the UI&Macros forum recently to see what it is. |
06:34.11 | Jaxon | The funny part is that the whole argument started when someone said that "If you changed away from onupdate to events, your mod would see increase performance" and all he says now is "no one is offering reasonable suggestions" |
06:35.06 | Jaxon | And people are going to more lengths to give him real data than most users would. |
06:35.24 | Jaxon | Instead of just "KTM makes WoW slow all the time, in and out of raids" they are providing actual numbers. |
06:36.16 | stavmar | so does those threat type mods slow wow down that much, based on the reading i get it does not seem any worse than any other mods I use..Mostly all from the Ace family of developers |
06:37.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40337 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - another slight optimization |
06:38.51 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40338 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: koKR Update |
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06:40.57 | Jaxon | stavmar: really, adding one more mod to the pile will use more resources than if it wasn't there, but the issue is that the "first" threat mod does some really unnecessary churning on the hardware. |
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06:41.48 | NightHawkTheSane | stavmar: "threat type" mods have no inherent performance hit above and beyond any other damage meter style mds. |
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06:42.10 | NightHawkTheSane | KTM in particular just uses some poor implementation, causing it to use significantly more CPU usage than is realistically necessary. |
06:42.45 | stavmar | NightHawkTheSane: well when i use SWStats i notice a degredation in my performance when i use Violation those issues disappear during combat. Omen is working like a charm, i just need to convince my guild to switch |
06:43.09 | stavmar | my computer performance and my performance due to the slow down to fps on my computer... |
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06:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, SWS does a fair bit of number crunching though, so not all of its performance issues may be related to implementation, but I haven't looked at the code or anything. Relatively speaking, Violation is extremely simple compared to SWS |
06:45.20 | Kaelten | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
06:45.20 | purl | burns hyperChipmunk to a crisp with a laser |
06:45.30 | Kaelten | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
06:45.30 | purl | offers hyperChipmunk some herring |
06:45.49 | NightHawkTheSane | aww, whats with all the hyperChipmunk hate tonight? |
06:45.50 | NightHawkTheSane | ~comfort hyperChipmunk |
06:45.57 | purl | There, there, hyperChipmunk. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
06:45.57 | stavmar | well that is why it is hard to switch to it, allthough violation generally gets the job done to inform your guildies where they need to improve |
06:46.07 | Kaelten | :P |
06:47.15 | Jaxon | SWStats keeps data and parses it depending on the display, which is where the resource use comes from, but it also allows you to compare things over long term. |
06:51.05 | Jagobah | if Violation can merge pets I would be happy to use it :D |
06:51.50 | stavmar | so if i replace pitbull r39408 do i just replace teh lua file or do i need to replace all the folders. I use exteranl libraries. After this first attempt i received several errors at login. |
06:54.04 | Antiarc | And I'm out of the KTM thread. |
06:54.28 | Antiarc | Kenco's made a phenominal ass out of himself, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together can make their own determination. |
06:55.28 | wobin_ | Antiarc: They might start a fire that way |
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06:56.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40339 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
06:56.38 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - remove PLAYER_ALIVE, PLAYER_DEAD, PLAYER_UNGHOST references, as those apparently only work for "player", no other units. |
06:56.38 | CIA-22 | - optimize AFK, Disconnect checks significantly. |
06:56.38 | CIA-22 | - remove RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE, PARTY_LEADER_CHANGED, PARTY_MEMBER_ENABLE, PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE references |
06:59.55 | stavmar | wow you guys were harsh to Kenco, I guess it serves him right, lol |
07:00.59 | KarlThePagan | you'd have to read 12+ pages of that to understand how it snowballed into what most people have read on the subject |
07:01.18 | stavmar | lol, it is entertaining to say the least.... |
07:01.26 | todd | in threat-1.0, priest.lua line 94, attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'shadowAffinityMod' (a nil value) |
07:01.28 | todd | when I fade |
07:01.41 | todd | and no points in shadow affinity |
07:02.08 | todd | r40312 |
07:02.35 | Starinnia | well, the entire discussion helped me persuade my guild's officers to make the switch to Omen :P |
07:03.09 | KarlThePagan | I've got 2 of a dozen guild leaders switched to threat/omen/threattoktm |
07:03.27 | Starinnia | guild leader is a software dev, he couldn't understand why Kenco wouldn't want to improve his code |
07:03.41 | stavmar | i will be posting on our boards tomorrow we will all be making the switch, holy crap this stuff is great |
07:03.53 | KarlThePagan | I would do the same with assessment, but WowWebStats is more useful offline and assessment is a little intimidating at first |
07:03.53 | Antiarc | todd: Fixing that in the next commit |
07:04.05 | todd | I think I'm out of the loop on the latest kenco info |
07:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
07:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | r40312 | funkydude | 2007-06-16 22:30:49 -0400 (Sat, 16 Jun 2007) | 1 line |
07:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | Threat-1.0: use embeds.xml |
07:04.20 | Antiarc | Restarting to test |
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07:04.35 | Starinnia | well, it's pretty much all the same stuff that he always posts about his addon todd |
07:04.38 | stavmar | WWS has been a great tool in helping our guild to succeed simply for its off-line utility |
07:04.45 | KarlThePagan | yea |
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07:05.10 | KarlThePagan | I really like how you can get all of that information online with assessment... at least most of it |
07:05.26 | KarlThePagan | now all it needs is a who damaged who list in the drilldown |
07:05.33 | KarlThePagan | not sure if it's made to do that |
07:05.40 | todd | WWS? assessment? I should pay more attention to this channel =/ |
07:05.52 | KarlThePagan | assessment is a damage meter |
07:06.06 | KarlThePagan | same with wow web stats but you can view it offline on a really slick webpage |
07:06.37 | Starinnia | yeah, WWS is really nice, of course, it made all the people who claim meters mean nothing mad |
07:06.59 | KarlThePagan | sounds like priests ;) |
07:07.07 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
07:07.33 | todd | I'm leveling a priest and have no problems posting damage meters every so often :P |
07:07.35 | KarlThePagan | meters in a 40man are different than meters in a 10 or 25 man |
07:07.45 | stavmar | i think it is easy to use it now that they have designed the page to seperate each attempt on a boss, you can really analyze your raid very well |
07:08.02 | KarlThePagan | well it has more to do with the "omg i healed a lot" vs "the tank did not die on my watch" |
07:08.09 | NightHawkTheSane | meters do mean nothing, really. they're guides and tools, not an engraved-on-stone-tablets law. |
07:08.41 | stavmar | The grull encounter really showed how weak we were in total DPS and WWSS really allowed us to see why it was not good enough |
07:09.11 | KarlThePagan | also "omg i did a lot of damage" vs "i didn't pull aggro and then fein, killing 2 mages who were next to me when the boss tried to eat my face" |
07:09.17 | Starinnia | yup, people, in my guild at least, thought we were using the meters on a night by night basis to judge them |
07:09.17 | stavmar | but i agree, they are tools they inform you of the path you should begin to take definitely not the absolute truth, but comapring within class characteristics is extremely helpful. |
07:09.28 | Starinnia | when really, we were collecting data and watching trends |
07:09.34 | stavmar | they still do, trust me |
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07:13.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40340 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added modifier ShortDruidForm, and tag alias ShortDruidForm => [DruidForm:ShortDruidForm] |
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07:15.13 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40341 10FuBar_PitchFu/ (. FuBar_PitchFu.lua FuBar_PitchFu.toc): |
07:15.13 | CIA-22 | FuBar_PitchFu: initial commit |
07:15.13 | CIA-22 | - Shows your camera pitch |
07:15.26 | ckknight | Athou: how do you tell? |
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07:16.00 | Athou | I'm using SaveView(5) and GetCVar("cameraPitchD") |
07:16.11 | Lywellyn|Laptop | What thread was everyone talking about earlier? |
07:17.14 | ckknight | Lywellyn|Away: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
07:17.23 | stavmar | nymbia: lol |
07:17.41 | nymbia | stavmar: rofl |
07:17.55 | Killmore | camera pitch ? |
07:17.57 | Killmore | what is that ? |
07:18.46 | ckknight | look forward. raise your head. your pitch has changed. |
07:18.57 | Killmore | ok |
07:19.08 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40342 10FuBar_PitchFu/: |
07:19.08 | CIA-22 | FuBar_PitchFu: |
07:19.08 | CIA-22 | - setting up externals |
07:19.27 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40343 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR typo fix |
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07:20.38 | NightHawkTheSane | shame you can't get what your flight pitch is. |
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07:22.47 | art3mis | http://www.wnbc.com/news/13515711/detail.html |
07:22.54 | art3mis | well thats quite awesome |
07:23.03 | art3mis | viagra being used for what it was originally created for |
07:23.17 | art3mis | and the fact that its working is even cooler |
07:23.46 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: yeah i'd love an altimeter that showed how high you were and wehether you were flying level |
07:24.08 | todd | Violation.lua:2988: Dewdrop-2.0: Bad argument #2 to 'FeedAceOptionsTable' (table expected, got nil) as soon as I entered combat after messing around with my windows and eventually deleting them all |
07:24.22 | wobin_ | I think Shirik was working on something like that |
07:24.35 | Shirik | ? |
07:24.38 | art3mis | oh wobin did you answer me on what type of pc you've got? |
07:24.47 | Shirik | wobin_: ? |
07:24.48 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: to hell with how high you are, I just want to know if I can go afk while flying and not find my self flying into the base of a mountain. ;) |
07:24.50 | wobin_ | oh did you ask? |
07:24.58 | Shirik | ask what? |
07:24.58 | clad|sleep | 8-Ball says: "Well, uhm, er, no." |
07:25.02 | art3mis | yeah like 4 hours ago ;P |
07:25.15 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: heh yeah |
07:25.20 | wobin_ | Shirik: Altimeter thingie? |
07:25.23 | Shirik | oh right |
07:25.26 | art3mis | shirik: what i said directed at nighthawk |
07:25.27 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40344 10BulkMail2/BulkMailFu.lua: |
07:25.27 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
07:25.27 | CIA-22 | - removed duplicate menu items from the FuBar plugin |
07:25.42 | wobin_ | I'm running Ubuntu on a laptop |
07:25.47 | Shirik | yeah I have it mostly working |
07:25.50 | art3mis | serious? |
07:25.50 | wobin_ | what sort of specs do you need? |
07:25.50 | Shirik | it just needs a GUI |
07:25.55 | Shirik | wobin_: So am I |
07:25.56 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40345 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailFu.lua: |
07:25.56 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
07:25.56 | CIA-22 | - removed duplicate menu items from the FuBar plugin |
07:25.59 | art3mis | were you looking for a new desktop? |
07:26.06 | Shirik | but yeah, it's very possible. Just a crap ton of calculus |
07:26.09 | wobin_ | yeah |
07:26.09 | art3mis | ive got shitloads of spare parts ;P |
07:26.10 | wobin_ | eventually |
07:26.14 | Shirik | if you want to search the WoW forums, my calculations are sitll up there |
07:26.22 | wobin_ | Shipping would probably invalidate any savings =) |
07:28.01 | Lywellyn|Laptop | Damn. Just skimming the last two pages, the guy needs to get his head out of his ass. |
07:28.37 | todd | the pages on ktm comments? |
07:28.41 | todd | or is there a thread somewhere |
07:28.48 | Lywellyn|Laptop | the pages on KTM comments |
07:28.59 | Lywellyn|Laptop | btw, green = curse staff and positive comments, or something else? |
07:29.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40346 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - you can only be AFK when you're connected. |
07:29.24 | Antiarc | Yeah, that's it |
07:29.27 | hyperChipmunk | curse staff don't have to be green |
07:29.34 | hyperChipmunk | k just made his |
07:29.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Lywellyn|Away: yeah, green comments are either Curse staff, or comments that have been modded up to +5 or better i think |
07:29.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: oh? |
07:29.47 | art3mis | shirik: screw a gui ;) just have it work like location fu so that level is 0% incline ;) |
07:29.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea, at first, we couldn't make K's green |
07:29.56 | Shirik | yeah but that's boring :( |
07:29.57 | hyperChipmunk | because we can't vote on staff posts |
07:30.02 | hyperChipmunk | so he had them made green =p |
07:30.06 | Lywellyn|Laptop | Ahh. |
07:30.21 | Shirik | btw |
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07:30.22 | Shirik | here's the calculations |
07:30.27 | Shirik | found the thread |
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07:30.36 | art3mis | yeah like im gonna do something with it ;P |
07:30.39 | Shirik | a = arccos([(1/(2sqrt(x^2+y^2)))(2x(dx/dt)+2y(dy/dt))]/[(m+1)s]) |
07:30.44 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=77785285&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
07:30.53 | Lywellyn|Laptop | Stinkin' wireless network. |
07:30.54 | art3mis | there wobin |
07:31.08 | art3mis | go make an addon that displays a airplane like altimeter ;P |
07:31.35 | Shirik | you mean artificial horizon? |
07:31.38 | art3mis | yes |
07:31.40 | Shirik | ;) |
07:31.44 | Shirik | Sorry, I go to an aeronautical school |
07:31.45 | art3mis | heh |
07:31.48 | Shirik | very picky of this stuff :P |
07:31.55 | art3mis | and buttons that glow red |
07:31.56 | Shirik | actually majoring in avionics so this stuff is pretty straightforward to me |
07:32.02 | art3mis | need lots of those |
07:32.18 | art3mis | and a couple of little circles for fuel level and speed ;P |
07:32.25 | Shirik | haha |
07:32.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: hmm... while that formula is about half a foot away from gibberish to me, reading the thread, I think I begin to see the underlying concept |
07:32.32 | art3mis | and it needs to load and unload only if yer on a flying mount ;P |
07:32.50 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: Just simple calculus :) |
07:32.53 | art3mis | and then you can make a whisper addon for the tower ;) |
07:33.05 | hyperChipmunk | Shirik: i tried that, too; i was using straightline vs. actual velocity to get pitch |
07:33.05 | art3mis | so they can guide you to places to land n stuff |
07:33.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: I barely passed my calc classes with a C in college ;) |
07:33.13 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r51 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
07:33.13 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: TinyTip - The long-awaited first commit of version 0.2, completely untested. |
07:33.13 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: This version keeps support for saved settings and anchoring in a different |
07:33.13 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: addon, which I have not finished yet. You should delete your saved variables for |
07:33.13 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: TinyTip in your WTF folder. |
07:33.17 | hyperChipmunk | you cant' tell whether the pitch is positive or negative though |
07:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
07:33.37 | art3mis | wonder why they chose to make it a WTF folder |
07:33.42 | art3mis | knowing that WTF was what the fuck |
07:33.48 | Shirik | correct |
07:33.51 | Shirik | you have to make a guess |
07:33.56 | hyperChipmunk | question asked; question answered |
07:34.02 | art3mis | thats where height comes in |
07:34.07 | Shirik | however, in my tests, that guess is very possible |
07:34.26 | hyperChipmunk | there is no height |
07:34.27 | art3mis | if you start off a x height and it decreases obvious its a negative pitch ;P |
07:34.29 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 what was up with CIA-22 there? |
07:34.33 | art3mis | Z axis |
07:34.42 | hyperChipmunk | coordinates are map coordinates |
07:34.45 | hyperChipmunk | there's no Z |
07:34.45 | art3mis | or is that invisible to normal people? |
07:35.07 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40347 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed Vamp Embrace threat. Fixed shadow spells when you have no points in Shadow Affinity. |
07:35.09 | Shirik | the way you determine negative or positive axis |
07:35.14 | art3mis | but range fidners can detect is something is to high |
07:35.20 | hyperChipmunk | if there were Z, you could have all sorts of things |
07:35.23 | Shirik | is by holding a flag and detecting moving past 0 degrees |
07:35.26 | art3mis | how do they do that? |
07:35.29 | Shirik | and inversing the sign |
07:35.32 | art3mis | hyper there is a Z |
07:35.36 | Shirik | it takes a frequent update interval to do that, but possible |
07:35.38 | Kalman| | Antiarc: VE heals affected by holy threat talents, or none? |
07:35.41 | art3mis | uits just not an accessible featuire |
07:35.44 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Holy |
07:35.45 | hyperChipmunk | not to addons there aren't |
07:35.48 | Antiarc | Test data's in the file itself |
07:36.00 | art3mis | Kalman|: nope |
07:36.05 | art3mis | oh wait yes |
07:36.07 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Figured. Might actually be worth respeccing to get those now. |
07:36.11 | art3mis | that threat reduction talent? |
07:36.15 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Actually...wait |
07:36.15 | Shirik | art3mis: as far as addons are concerned, there is no way to determine height |
07:36.23 | Antiarc | It might be not modified. |
07:36.26 | Antiarc | Bugger. |
07:36.29 | Antiarc | I missed a calculation |
07:36.31 | Shirik | s/no way/no direct way/ |
07:36.35 | Kalman| | Heh. |
07:36.36 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, that's exactly what i did =) |
07:36.39 | art3mis | nods |
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07:36.44 | art3mis | im just used to wowemu n stuff |
07:36.51 | art3mis | where z is obvious |
07:37.12 | art3mis | didnt even occurr that its not a real accessible ingame thingy |
07:37.41 | Jaxon | Pitbull has an offline timer for people? ckknight I love you |
07:38.00 | ckknight | Offline, AFK, and Dead |
07:38.08 | art3mis | ckk |
07:38.13 | ckknight | yes? |
07:38.13 | Antiarc | Kalman|: http://ace.pastey.net/57010 |
07:38.17 | art3mis | you need to make a raid leader settig for "jerks" |
07:38.19 | Antiarc | That seems to say no threat reduction |
07:38.26 | Antiarc | 1 point in SR, 5 points in SA |
07:38.29 | art3mis | so the RL can mark the jerks that afk during attempts ;P |
07:38.29 | ckknight | art3mis: how do you mean? |
07:38.43 | ckknight | RL? |
07:38.46 | art3mis | kind f like a pvp flag sorta thingy |
07:38.47 | QuantumDelta | raid leader |
07:38.49 | art3mis | raid leader |
07:39.00 | art3mis | only its visible to those that have pitbull |
07:39.08 | art3mis | even though im not all that sure its possible ;P |
07:39.22 | Kalman| | Antiarc: All threat talents taken? |
07:39.26 | Kalman| | Both holy and shadow? |
07:39.27 | Antiarc | 1 point in SR, 5 points in SA |
07:39.34 | Kalman| | ... |
07:39.35 | Antiarc | So 4% holy reduction, 25% shadow |
07:39.38 | Antiarc | Not my priest! |
07:39.41 | art3mis | or just change the AFK flag to JERK after 5mins ;P |
07:39.43 | Kalman| | It's 4 AM, I would have seen it in the file eventually. :) |
07:39.44 | Antiarc | I'm borrowing a guildie's |
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07:39.51 | Kalman| | No, the ... was for me. |
07:40.17 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, how do you cod with BulkMail? |
07:40.20 | art3mis | Antiarc: you're factoring salvation too right? |
07:40.36 | ckknight | art3mis: you can see everyone's AFK status... |
07:40.43 | art3mis | salvation is a SP's best friend ;P |
07:40.46 | Antiarc | art3mis: Yes |
07:40.55 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Heh, okay |
07:40.56 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, bah, nvm...guess i have to drag and drop |
07:40.58 | hyperChipmunk | I had altimeter, fake horizon, and a spiffy HSI, but it couldn't be made robust enough to actually put out there |
07:41.06 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: what do you mean? |
07:41.08 | kebinusan | How close is Threat to being betaish? Id like my guild to use it but having them update so frequently probably wouldnt happen |
07:41.16 | art3mis | ckknight: nods you should code it so that 5mins or more afk and it reads JERK instead of AFK ;P |
07:41.24 | ckknight | nah... |
07:41.25 | Kalman| | Antiarc: I don't think you can say conclusively based on that data. |
07:41.26 | hyperChipmunk | enter a cod value, and it will apply to all items in the send |
07:41.27 | ckknight | that's not necessary |
07:41.37 | Kalman| | Mmm, wait, maybe you can. |
07:41.37 | art3mis | oh |
07:41.48 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, ooo |
07:41.49 | art3mis | so necessity is a factor in suggestions? |
07:41.53 | art3mis | well damn |
07:41.55 | art3mis | ;) |
07:42.12 | art3mis | oh |
07:42.17 | art3mis | there was something i meant to mention |
07:42.22 | Kalman| | The pulled aggro line means on the hit that took you from 1435-1447? |
07:42.28 | art3mis | does pitbull control buffs and debuffs? |
07:42.35 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r40348 10AtlasLoot/PvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
07:42.35 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
07:42.35 | CIA-22 | - small change to check something |
07:42.51 | art3mis | as in is it responsible for displaying them |
07:43.08 | ckknight | yes. |
07:43.08 | art3mis | cuz since the latest i havent seen my mount "buff" |
07:43.12 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, but you don't have to select COD, do you? because I can't |
07:43.41 | hyperChipmunk | should be able to |
07:43.48 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I did not have aggro at 1435, I had aggro at 1447 |
07:43.48 | ckknight | art3mis: I doubt it would show, honestly, since it's not something you cast as a spell, therefore the filtering catches it |
07:43.54 | art3mis | ahh okay |
07:43.57 | hyperChipmunk | I thought i made it be enabled once there's items in the sendqueue |
07:44.05 | art3mis | not a big deal just wasnt sure if it was meant that way |
07:44.11 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, recent patch? |
07:44.12 | Kalman| | Antiarc: OK. That implies VE heals aren't affected by threat reductions at all. |
07:44.15 | Kalman| | Saves me a respec fee! |
07:44.22 | CIA-22 | 03laric * r40349 10nQuestLog/modules/Comments.lua: nQuestLog - took code from QuestFu to make comments work. |
07:44.23 | Antiarc | Correct, but when I don't mod it, I get weird numbers. :/ |
07:44.24 | hyperChipmunk | day before yesterday? |
07:44.36 | Thrae | Antiarc: My aggro is always 1337! |
07:44.38 | bigzero | then i haven't updated yet |
07:44.43 | hyperChipmunk | /bonk |
07:45.41 | hyperChipmunk | http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2 |
07:45.56 | hyperChipmunk | last paragraph of section two |
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07:52.57 | Jaxon | ckknight_: probably dont' need death timers on pets? |
07:53.09 | ckknight | *shrug* |
07:53.18 | ckknight | I think it does it anyway |
07:53.40 | hyperChipmunk | lol i just saw that |
07:53.45 | hyperChipmunk | what does it mean? |
07:53.58 | ckknight | saw what? |
07:54.10 | ckknight | the death timer? |
07:54.13 | hyperChipmunk | Dead (1:16) |
07:54.13 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
07:54.19 | hyperChipmunk | on my pet |
07:54.22 | ckknight | Dead (1:23) means they've been dead for 1 minute, 23 seconds |
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07:54.54 | hyperChipmunk | is that useful? |
07:55.10 | ckknight | probably not on pets |
07:55.16 | ckknight | BankZ requested it |
07:55.19 | ckknight | ...blame him |
07:55.22 | hyperChipmunk | ah, yea, i guess if it was on normal ppl |
07:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | the time to release |
07:55.35 | hyperChipmunk | but yea |
07:55.43 | hyperChipmunk | no use on pets |
07:58.38 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I'm doing more tests, and the data's gone all to hell |
07:58.39 | Jaxon | Double firelord pulls are really hard with only 6 people. |
07:58.43 | Jaxon | Just thought you'd want to know. |
08:06.47 | Antiarc | And now my data is showing that VE heals are affected by SR. *boggle* |
08:12.45 | hyperChipmunk | i suck |
08:13.05 | hyperChipmunk | I flopped all the way to Talon King Ikiss and I forgot all my arcane resist gear |
08:13.25 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r40350 10AtlasLoot/PvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
08:13.25 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
08:13.25 | CIA-22 | - deleted non epic sets in order to try and update. |
08:14.33 | Kalman| | Antiarc: I'm in SL, but if you put it up somewhere, I'll take a look when I'm done. |
08:14.46 | Antiarc | I'm trying to get some solid numbers, but everything I have doesn't make sense. |
08:14.54 | Kalman| | Heh. |
08:15.08 | Kalman| | If it made sense, wouldn't need me to take a look at it to break my brain too. :) |
08:15.20 | Antiarc | I have to be getting some weird numbers off of Focused Casting procs or something |
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08:17.26 | Kalman| | Try reversing the test to remove that possibility? |
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08:19.17 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r40351 10Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0.lua: |
08:19.17 | CIA-22 | Layout-1.0: |
08:19.17 | CIA-22 | -merged SetXOffset, SetYOffset to SetOffset(x, y) |
08:19.17 | CIA-22 | -merged SetXSpacer, SetYSpacer to SetSpacer(x, y) |
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08:19.46 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r40352 10AtlasLoot/PvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
08:19.46 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
08:19.46 | CIA-22 | - Restored non epic sets. |
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08:22.01 | Fin | last pitbull |
08:22.04 | Fin | oops |
08:22.06 | Fin | +/ |
08:22.51 | Jaxon | files.wowace.com/PitBull/ has all the revisions |
08:23.09 | Fin | yeah, but I can't remember the revision number now, because WoW's crashed |
08:23.13 | Jaxon | Also, is there an auction addon that lets me choose what kind of stacks of which quanities I can put stuff up at auction? |
08:23.17 | Jaxon | 39408 ? |
08:23.18 | Fin | and the mesage was when Pitbull loaded |
08:23.22 | Fin | thanks |
08:24.06 | wobin_ | what version do we revert to? |
08:24.11 | wobin_ | ah |
08:25.00 | Fin | what a horrible bug |
08:25.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40353 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
08:25.09 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - remove a bunch of global references. |
08:25.09 | CIA-22 | - make it so that non-raid/party units (including pets) don't have a death timer. |
08:26.07 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | Revert to PitBull r39408 if you observe crashes (this is until WoW 2.1.2 releases) |
08:26.10 | Jaxon | Okay, so, apparently Auctioneer can do what I want, but I don't need the whole thing, sigh. |
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08:32.36 | wobin_ | 39408.1046? |
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08:32.58 | NightHawkTheSane | BLEARGH |
08:33.16 | NightHawkTheSane | two plots in evn finished, four more to go.. |
08:33.21 | Kalman| | Heh. |
08:33.24 | Kalman| | Nova? |
08:33.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
08:33.32 | Kalman| | So good. |
08:33.35 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
08:33.49 | Kalman| | I did all 6 too. So good. |
08:34.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, course all the EVs have been amazingly good. |
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08:35.57 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I can't get consistent data out of this |
08:36.06 | Antiarc | Plz to test if you find yourself with time |
08:36.13 | Antiarc | Because I sure as hell can't figure out what's going on |
08:38.38 | Kalman| | I'll see what I can do. |
08:39.19 | Antiarc | I have my suspicion that Focused Casting procs are throwing off my numbers, but I can't say for sure. |
08:39.58 | Kalman| | Think FC generates threat? |
08:40.59 | Antiarc | that's the only other variable, and it's taking more threat than I'd expect to pull aggro off of my VE priest at range |
08:42.14 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r40354 10Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0.lua: |
08:42.14 | CIA-22 | Layout-1.0: |
08:42.14 | CIA-22 | -Fixed a bug in layout:Clear() |
08:43.13 | wobin_ | goddamnit |
08:43.31 | wobin_ | I'm buying a new computer this week |
08:43.43 | wobin_ | I can't get -any- worthwhile fps at the moment |
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08:43.52 | wobin_ | And I just crash |
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08:45.01 | Antiarc | wobin_: Install KLHPerformanceMonitor |
08:45.06 | Antiarc | I hear it increases your framerate |
08:45.20 | wobin_ | I'll have to run 10 copies |
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08:45.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: psh, thats a lie. wobin_ doesn't even need those frames! hell he can just turn vsync on and be just fine. |
08:46.47 | Antiarc | oh yeah, vsync makes your computer run at 60 FPS no matter what, right? |
08:46.54 | NightHawkTheSane | obviously. |
08:47.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, thats why I get such bad fps, cause I have vsync off |
08:47.13 | nevcairiel | vsync will limit your fps to your monitor refresh rate |
08:47.19 | nevcairiel | :p |
08:47.28 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: yes, we're quite aware. :) |
08:47.42 | Kalman| | nevcairiel: Kenco. |
08:47.59 | Kalman| | (I think that one word should be adequate explanation.) |
08:48.10 | nevcairiel | i know, ive read the comments on cu |
08:48.28 | Kalman| | Were you laughing the whole time? |
08:48.30 | Kalman| | I know I was. |
08:48.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40355 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a typo that was letting KTM threat mix with ThreatLib threat, resulting in double threat being shown sometimes for people running Threat + KTM. |
08:48.46 | Arrowmaster | should find somebody that gets just above 60 fps without KTM and just below 60 fps with KTM to turn on vsync and post preformance info for kenco since he seems to think vsync on is a good idea |
08:49.05 | Kalman| | Hm. |
08:49.15 | Kalman| | I'm at 67 right now in Slabs with Threat, no KTM. |
08:50.03 | Arrowmaster | would be funny for the 'OMG KTM CUT MY FPS IN HALF' joke |
08:51.02 | nevcairiel | wonder if antiarc fixed the embeds.xml thing yet |
08:51.11 | Antiarc | I haven't touched it |
08:51.18 | Antiarc | But I'm still not sure why it's broken |
08:51.19 | Antiarc | worksforme |
08:51.26 | nevcairiel | it breaks when you run embeds |
08:51.35 | nevcairiel | because it tries to parse a .xml file as a .lua file |
08:51.35 | nevcairiel | :D |
08:52.21 | nevcairiel | anyway, i will fix it then |
08:52.39 | Antiarc | ok, please do |
08:52.58 | nevcairiel | just grabbing a full omen with embeds for testing |
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08:54.39 | NightHawkTheSane | GAH. really need to pay attention to what app i'm in. |
08:54.40 | nevcairiel | wow my ui loads fast with no addons except omen =P |
08:55.47 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r40356 10Omen/embeds.xml: Omen: <Include> other .xml files, not <Script> them :D |
08:56.19 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: another error tho, i run nothing but a clean omen checkout, and this line errors for me : local parser = ParserLib:GetInstance("1.1") |
08:57.08 | Antiarc | line #? |
08:57.11 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40357 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: Assessment: Fixed death counts |
08:57.17 | nevcairiel | 292 in class modulecore |
08:57.48 | nevcairiel | attempt to index upvalue yadayada |
08:57.52 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: That would indicate that neither parser30 or parser11 got loaded |
08:57.58 | odt | anyone get a WebClient exception when starting WowAceUpdater ? |
08:58.47 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: ah found it |
08:59.07 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r40358 10Omen/embeds.xml: Omen: fix parser in the embeds.xml |
09:01.05 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r40359 10Violation/embeds.xml: Violation: fix threat in embeds.xml |
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09:01.55 | nevcairiel | any other addons that embed it? |
09:02.08 | nevcairiel | assessment is already correct, pitbull has no embeds.xml |
09:02.13 | nevcairiel | guess thats all :) |
09:03.57 | Antiarc | I need to sleep, but more tomorrow! |
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09:13.05 | Kemayo | What's the benefit from using embeds.xml? |
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09:28.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40360 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - in the compiled code, instead of using table.concat, use string.format and one big string, no tables involved. Should be a significant speedup. |
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09:49.19 | Higdur | anyone know the command for Bartender3 to save the bar's position? |
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09:52.37 | vrak | hmm |
09:53.00 | vrak | is it known that Threat-1.0 has problems with 'locks? |
09:53.44 | Kalman| | Define "problems". |
09:54.22 | vrak | i got an error logging on with my lock |
09:55.11 | vrak | Message: ...ddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Warlock.lua line 25: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Race-2.2. |
09:55.37 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Ping. |
09:55.50 | Punkie` | vrak: are you using embedded or disembedded? |
09:56.35 | nevcairiel | make sure to update babble-2.2 |
09:56.39 | nevcairiel | and threat |
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09:56.55 | Kalman| | Someone say my name, please, testing something. |
09:57.00 | vrak | Kalman|? |
09:57.04 | Kalman| | Thanks. :) |
09:57.43 | Punkie` | vrak is there any other errors? |
09:57.47 | vrak | Punkie`: i'm not using threat inside some other addon if that's what you're asking about |
09:58.12 | vrak | and no, that was the only one |
09:58.35 | vrak | and i wasn't aware threat depended on babble |
09:58.52 | Punkie` | babble is a localization, so it's just easier if it does |
09:58.57 | omega_ | is there any list on the wiki of addons "activly maintained"? |
09:59.30 | Kalman| | That reminds me, I had a Babble question. |
09:59.42 | Kalman| | Does it maintain non-locale information in memory after load? |
10:00.02 | Punkie` | it's garbage collected i believe |
10:00.15 | Punkie` | actually |
10:00.18 | Punkie` | hmm :P |
10:00.23 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r40361 10Threat-1.0/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): Threat-1.0: add Babble-Race to embeds |
10:00.31 | nevcairiel | vrak: update in 20 minutes =P |
10:00.54 | Punkie` | hey nevcairiel, i was just about to click commit :P |
10:01.12 | vrak | nevcairiel: thanks |
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10:02.56 | ckknight | where does Threat-1.0 use Babble-Race? |
10:03.14 | Punkie` | Warlock.lua line 25? :P |
10:04.00 | nevcairiel | it uses it to localize "Imp" in warlock module :P |
10:04.01 | ckknight | ah, okay |
10:04.09 | ckknight | crafty |
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10:04.56 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40362 10RangeCheck/ (. RangeCheck.toc): RangeCheck: fixed externals |
10:05.02 | Silviu- | So what`s the point of embeds.xml if u remove it u won`t get so many errors in FrameXML.log ? |
10:05.12 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40363 10RangeCheck-1.0/ (. RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua RangeCheck-1.0.toc): RangeCheck-1.0: fixed externals |
10:05.13 | nevcairiel | i think its loading time is faster |
10:05.16 | nevcairiel | when its removed |
10:05.27 | nevcairiel | only one file that errors |
10:05.31 | nevcairiel | and not a dozen |
10:05.31 | Silviu- | True |
10:05.39 | mitch0 | yo guys |
10:05.52 | Silviu- | Then maybe all addons/libs can addopt this ? |
10:05.52 | Silviu- | ;) |
10:05.55 | mitch0 | how can I change my client to german or french? |
10:06.52 | Kemayo | Has anyone actually confirmed this loading time theory? |
10:06.57 | ckknight | not sure, mitch0 |
10:07.00 | ckknight | Kemayo: yes. |
10:07.08 | mitch0 | hm. there's a SET local "enGB" in config.wtf... |
10:07.11 | mitch0 | let's try |
10:07.22 | nevcairiel | mitch0: if you are EU, download the language pack. if you are US, you are out of luck :P |
10:07.22 | Silviu- | ckknight u have a lot of addons/libs u can addopt it ;p |
10:07.34 | ckknight | NO U |
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10:08.13 | Silviu- | Me ? :( |
10:08.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40364 10PitBull/ (6 files in 6 dirs): PitBull - in configMode, icons should be shown no matter what. |
10:09.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40365 10PitBull/RaidTargetIcon/RaidTargetIcon.lua: PitBull_RaidTargetIcon - tweaks to the configMode icon chooser. |
10:11.20 | mitch0 | didn't work :( |
10:11.32 | mitch0 | I'm not sure I have an international client at all, to be hones |
10:11.33 | mitch0 | t |
10:11.57 | nevcairiel | as i said, if you are EU, you can download the ELP ( European Language Pack ) for those languages |
10:12.01 | nevcairiel | if you are US, no luck. |
10:12.10 | mitch0 | ah |
10:12.17 | mitch0 | so it's a lot of trouble :) |
10:12.26 | nevcairiel | its extra content |
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10:12.46 | mitch0 | wonder if it screws up my default install or not... |
10:13.14 | mitch0 | also wonder if it's worth to do just to make my addon properly localized for at least the eu versions, or if I should wait for some volunteers :) |
10:13.42 | mitch0 | actually, anyone here with a non english client? I just need 3 tooltip texts :) |
10:14.06 | nevcairiel | i could switch my client to german |
10:14.43 | mitch0 | nice. could you tell me the tooltip text for "30 yd range", "Melee Range" and "8-35 yd range" |
10:15.06 | mitch0 | Melee Range is on Rend for example, or Wing Clip |
10:15.21 | mitch0 | the 8-x range is on hunter shots and charge/intercept |
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10:17.49 | nevcairiel | Melee Range is "Nahkampfreichweite" |
10:17.53 | mitch0 | ~ |
10:17.56 | mitch0 | jeebus |
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10:18.22 | nevcairiel | x yd Range is "30 m Reichweite" |
10:18.42 | nevcairiel | 8-35 is "8-25 m Reichweite" |
10:19.12 | nevcairiel | quick changing again, man thats ugly =P |
10:19.22 | mitch0 | er, could you retype those please |
10:19.24 | Punkie` | so the gameworld is actually bigger for european locales?! |
10:19.31 | mitch0 | no copy paste on this term, turned on irc logging |
10:19.39 | nevcairiel | Melee Range is "Nahkampfreichweite" |
10:19.43 | nevcairiel | x yd Range is "30 m Reichweite" |
10:19.49 | nevcairiel | 8-25 is "8-25 m Reichweite" |
10:19.54 | mitch0 | thanks |
10:19.56 | nevcairiel | Punkie`: of course. |
10:20.31 | nevcairiel | but its the best solution just renaming it imho :) |
10:20.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40366 10PitBull/PvPIcon/PvPIcon.lua: PitBull_PvPIcon - in configMode, instead of random icons, set the icons based on the unit, e.g. friendly will be your own faction, friendly's target will be opposite faction. |
10:21.23 | ckknight | mitch0: do you know if there's a GLOBAL_STRING for it or not? |
10:22.01 | nevcairiel | SPELL_RANGE = "%s yd range"; |
10:22.09 | nevcairiel | MELEE_RANGE = "Melee Range"; |
10:22.20 | ckknight | okay |
10:22.28 | ckknight | then just deformat it if you're scanning |
10:22.38 | ckknight | much simpler overall and no crazy hacks for each locale |
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10:24.33 | mitch0 | oh |
10:24.46 | mitch0 | well, actually, I need a regex out of it like: |
10:24.57 | mitch0 | %d+)-(%d+) yd range |
10:25.08 | mitch0 | (%d+)-(%d+) yd range |
10:25.26 | mitch0 | possible with deformat somehow? |
10:25.47 | mitch0 | or deformat the string then do the regex on it in english? |
10:26.21 | mitch0 | which is the current deformat lib? |
10:27.29 | ckknight | Deformat-2.0 |
10:28.20 | mitch0 | hrmp. now to mix it with gratuity... |
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10:40.55 | mitch0 | actually, where is this globalstrings.lua? |
10:41.12 | mitch0 | guess I just need that and replcae %s with (%d) in it |
10:41.18 | nevcairiel | in framexml |
10:41.28 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
10:41.37 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
10:41.42 | nevcairiel | ~botsnack |
10:41.42 | purl | :), nevcairiel |
10:43.33 | mitch0 | so, it's basically a global like SPELL_RANGE, right? |
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10:47.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40367 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: |
10:47.55 | CIA-22 | PitBull_CombatText - only show for normal units. |
10:47.55 | CIA-22 | - show "123" when in configMode. |
10:52.15 | mitch0 | how can I escape the %s in gsub? |
10:52.50 | mitch0 | SPELL_RANGE:gsub("%s", "(%d+)") would probably not do what I have in mind |
10:53.02 | ckknight | use Deformat! |
10:53.18 | ckknight | things'll likely mess up otherwise |
10:53.24 | mitch0 | hehe |
10:53.25 | mitch0 | :) |
10:53.28 | ckknight | but %s turns into (.+) |
10:53.49 | mitch0 | well, it would be pretty simple if I can escape %s |
10:54.01 | mitch0 | much simpler than intermixing deformat with gratuity |
10:54.01 | nevcairiel | %% is % |
10:54.14 | mitch0 | so, "%%s" will be the one for me |
10:54.28 | ckknight | um, Gratuity has support for Deformat. |
10:55.28 | mitch0 | well, I don't see why it would benefit me to introduce yet another dependency just to get rid of a gsub() ... |
10:55.55 | ckknight | fine, do what you feel like |
10:56.57 | mitch0 | I went with gratuity, 'cos the mungling with tooltips was a pita, but in this case it's really not justified, imo |
10:57.32 | smoke_ | any of you guys play a mage and know about water elemental macros? |
10:57.41 | mitch0 | a bit |
10:58.16 | mitch0 | I only use /petattack, /script PetDismiss(), and /click PetActionButtonX (where it's Freeze is) |
10:58.28 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40368 10ArkInventory/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
10:58.28 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
10:58.28 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-17-20-45 |
10:58.31 | mitch0 | oh, and /petdefensive, /petagressive, /petfollow |
10:59.26 | mitch0 | smoke: what's the question anyway? |
11:01.27 | smoke_ | ok |
11:01.40 | smoke_ | whats happening is |
11:01.51 | smoke_ | im using the macro that summons the water elemetnal and uses /petattack |
11:02.00 | smoke_ | but for some reason, say i use it and spam it on a target |
11:02.17 | smoke_ | something happesn and it wont change targets when i use the macro again |
11:02.50 | smoke_ | ./cast [nopet] Summon Water Elemental |
11:02.58 | smoke_ | /stopmacro [target=pettarget, exists] |
11:03.04 | smoke_ | ./petattack |
11:03.07 | nevcairiel | well |
11:03.14 | smoke_ | is there something wrong with that? |
11:03.20 | nevcairiel | the /stopmacro will stop the macro when your pet has a target |
11:03.24 | nevcairiel | so you cannot assign a new target :P |
11:03.28 | smoke_ | ooh |
11:03.34 | smoke_ | so i should remove that? |
11:03.41 | Matrix110 | #showtooltip Frostbolt |
11:03.41 | Matrix110 | /cast Frostbolt(Rank 13) |
11:03.41 | Matrix110 | /petattack [target=pettarget,noexists] target |
11:03.45 | Matrix110 | =best imho :P |
11:03.45 | nevcairiel | i dunno why you had it in there anyway |
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11:04.42 | Ominous | morning |
11:04.48 | nevcairiel | mornin |
11:04.54 | smoke_ | k |
11:05.03 | Ominous | Fin: you about: |
11:05.14 | smoke_ | ok how about this one |
11:05.23 | smoke_ | im using this one to summon my WE and if i hit it again it freezes |
11:05.28 | smoke_ | /cast [nopet] Summon Water Elemental |
11:05.34 | smoke_ | /stopmacro [nopet] |
11:05.38 | smoke_ | /click PetActionButton5 |
11:05.50 | smoke_ | that /stopmacro [nopet] shouldnt be in there? |
11:05.57 | smoke_ | i got these off the wow forums.. |
11:06.00 | nevcairiel | no that sounds right |
11:06.04 | smoke_ | k cool |
11:06.06 | nevcairiel | it will stop the macro if you dont have a pet |
11:06.12 | nevcairiel | if you dont have one, you cannot cast |
11:06.12 | nevcairiel | :D |
11:06.18 | smoke_ | k |
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11:08.18 | Gamefaq | hiho |
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11:10.08 | smoke_ | oh yeah i forgot to ask |
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11:10.27 | smoke_ | if i have a /cancelaura Ice Block command, should that go in front of /stopcasting or behind stop casting? |
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11:10.39 | smoke_ | im noticing my blink macro w/ /cancelaura Ice Block isn't working really that good... |
11:11.17 | nevcairiel | whats it supposed todo? |
11:11.43 | nevcairiel | remove your block and blink away? |
11:11.43 | smoke_ | yeah |
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11:11.55 | smoke_ | i guess img onna have to play w/ them some more |
11:12.11 | nevcairiel | i dont think you need a stopcasting to do that |
11:12.35 | smoke_ | oh yeah duh, ur in iceblock.. k |
11:12.58 | nevcairiel | you only cast one thing :) |
11:13.50 | Matrix110 | Anzahl:174229 |
11:13.50 | Matrix110 | bla |
11:13.52 | Matrix110 | oips |
11:13.54 | Matrix110 | mt:P |
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11:22.42 | wobin_ | hm http://www.ticomputers.com.au/ |
11:22.47 | wobin_ | have a look under desktop computers |
11:22.56 | wobin_ | and the second one, PC User BEst Value PC June |
11:23.03 | wobin_ | That's what I'm probably going to buy |
11:23.25 | mitch0 | smoke: I don't think you can make it work (even with stopcasting) |
11:23.40 | mitch0 | somehow the cancelaura part gets back to the client a bit late |
11:23.49 | mitch0 | so your best option is to spam that macro |
11:23.59 | nevcairiel | nice system wobin_ |
11:24.08 | wobin_ | Relatively cheap too =) |
11:24.10 | nevcairiel | i should prolly upgrade too |
11:24.16 | wobin_ | I remember when I was paying 4k for a system |
11:24.17 | nevcairiel | but no money right now :( |
11:24.45 | liquiem | is there a tag for pet spelldmg? |
11:24.54 | nevcairiel | i only upgrade partial components tho |
11:25.02 | nevcairiel | next would be a new mobo/cpu/ram combo |
11:26.46 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40369 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: range parsing is using GlobalStrings now, no need to localize. thanks nevcairiel and ckknight for the tip |
11:26.48 | Matrix110 | The PC is kinda weird Oo |
11:27.05 | wobin_ | What would you change, Matrix110? |
11:27.13 | wobin_ | Well, I have a crappy laptop atm |
11:27.20 | wobin_ | so a complete desktop is required |
11:27.21 | Matrix110 | Well i would take a P35 Mainboard and DDR2-800 |
11:27.27 | Matrix110 | 4GB directly |
11:27.39 | Matrix110 | not said if its 32 or 64bit Vista aswell |
11:28.05 | nevcairiel | i was thinking about getting a c2d 6700 as well |
11:28.08 | Matrix110 | The LCD brand is it somewhat of good in australia because for me it seems like a noname |
11:28.15 | Matrix110 | dont nevcairiel |
11:28.17 | Matrix110 | not atm |
11:28.24 | Matrix110 | soon new C2Ds come |
11:28.29 | mitch0 | [ammo]: are you around? |
11:29.43 | nevcairiel | no money right now anyway |
11:30.01 | Matrix110 | then wait for the new faster and cheaper CPUs! |
11:30.03 | nevcairiel | in july again i guess |
11:30.04 | nevcairiel | :) |
11:30.34 | Ominous | rofl just been reading the newest pages on the ktm argument |
11:30.34 | wobin_ | Matrix110: I don't really know |
11:30.53 | Dustwhisper | c2d is dropping by 25-50% |
11:30.55 | Dustwhisper | in the next month |
11:30.57 | wobin_ | Matrix110: And yeah, I can wait... and wait... |
11:30.59 | wobin_ | and wait... |
11:31.03 | nevcairiel | you wouldnt happen to have a link to some information about the new c2ds ? :p |
11:31.16 | Matrix110 | as you are german: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml?url=/newsticker/meldung/91197&words=Intel&T=Intel :P |
11:31.39 | mitch0 | ominous: where? |
11:31.50 | Ominous | curse-gaming |
11:31.55 | Ominous | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/?cpage=1 |
11:32.00 | nevcairiel | oh nice |
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11:32.11 | wobin_ | It seems to have stopped at Starianna |
11:32.15 | wobin_ | thank god =P |
11:32.34 | nevcairiel | that sounds good :) |
11:32.38 | nevcairiel | new fsb :) |
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11:34.03 | nevcairiel | i hope RAM stays that cheap for a while |
11:34.52 | Matrix110 | its already more expensive than ~3weeks ago |
11:35.08 | nevcairiel | i know |
11:35.14 | nevcairiel | i missed that time for buying :P |
11:35.30 | nevcairiel | i still run ddr1 in my box, so i would need complete new |
11:35.34 | nevcairiel | at least 2gb, maybe even 4 |
11:36.25 | wobin_ | although, for a 22" monitor it seems a good price, the CMV, $410 |
11:36.34 | wobin_ | instead of 1.5k for a Samsung |
11:36.43 | Matrix110 | wobin_ that doesnt mean its good:P |
11:36.49 | wobin_ | true that |
11:36.57 | Matrix110 | its prolly bullshit or you are lucky and its a rebranded Brand X model |
11:36.59 | trh | Ominous: it's pointless to discuss with him, he's ignoring every single number we showed him, he's ignoring every try to explain why his 1.000.000 runs of a frameonevent in a row don't account for any real cpu usage (caches!) |
11:37.00 | nevcairiel | i had a 22" for that money, and it sucked hard |
11:37.04 | nevcairiel | i returned it instantly :p |
11:37.08 | wobin_ | interestingly enough the price difference between the 22 and 24" Samsung is $15 |
11:37.19 | Dustwhisper | excuse my complete lack of knowledge, but how do you create a /comand option that takes arguments and passes it to a function that takes 1 argument? |
11:37.27 | Ominous | trh: i know but its still helarous |
11:37.29 | trh | wobin_: get a samsung |
11:37.29 | Ominous | sp? |
11:37.37 | Matrix110 | Samsung SyncMaster 226BW or Samsung SyncMaster 245B :P |
11:37.40 | trh | wobin_: samsung tft's are very very nice :) |
11:37.49 | trh | wobin_: two times a 226bw :) |
11:37.57 | Dustwhisper | both are great monitors |
11:38.03 | Dustwhisper | i've been thinking about both myself |
11:38.03 | Matrix110 | 1st= ~250euro 2nd=550euro |
11:38.05 | wobin_ | Expensive though =( |
11:38.09 | Dustwhisper | tired of my 21 inch CRTs |
11:38.11 | Dustwhisper | that weigh a tonne |
11:38.16 | wobin_ | Oh totally |
11:38.22 | trh | wobin_: ya, but 2 tfts are godly to work with |
11:38.32 | Dustwhisper | not that good to game on |
11:38.33 | Dustwhisper | tbh |
11:38.37 | trh | wobin_: it feels a bit strange at the beginning, but after a while you can't live without it |
11:38.38 | Dustwhisper | i still catch ghosting on topend LCDs |
11:38.39 | wobin_ | I have an old hpL1925 |
11:38.50 | Dustwhisper | but i'd love 2xWidescreen LCD |
11:38.59 | trh | wobin_: you need to times the same sice, otherwise it's strange |
11:39.01 | wobin_ | I don't have the deskspace for two widescreens =) |
11:39.11 | Matrix110 | Then get a 24" :P |
11:39.21 | wobin_ | trh: not really, I'm working off a laptop and monitor atm |
11:39.51 | trh | wobin_: well... strange in a way that it needs alot more to get comfortable with it |
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11:40.15 | Dustwhisper | Hey guys, how do I correctly setup a /command to take arguments and pass that to a function that takes 1 argument? Yes i am uselesss >_< |
11:40.21 | Dustwhisper | trying that ace option thingymajingy |
11:40.25 | wobin_ | well tbh, even with a crappy monitor, it'll still be ten times better than what I'm using =) |
11:40.33 | trh | wobin_: but it's so good to have your game at the left side, on the right side irc, notepad++ for lua code and so on :) |
11:40.39 | wobin_ | I agree |
11:41.07 | wobin_ | I'm getting 10fps on a small windowed run atm =( |
11:41.12 | wobin_ | and it's making me a sad panda |
11:41.23 | trh | there were test mades, where the productivity of developer were raised by 30%, just by giving them 2 screens :) |
11:41.24 | wobin_ | It used to be much better than that |
11:43.14 | Ominous | what does vsync actually do? |
11:44.04 | Cartas | Make your framerate sync with your refresh rate, I think. |
11:44.04 | trh | Ominous: only copies from backbuffer to frontbuffer if a frame was ended |
11:44.12 | Cartas | Basically make everything slow :o |
11:44.17 | Cartas | No idea why anyone would ever use it! |
11:44.49 | Matrix110 | because sometimes the Visual quality improves on LCD |
11:44.55 | Firik | not having vsync on can cause artifacts |
11:45.00 | wobin_ | http://www.myshopping.com.au/SP--120667_ChiMei_CMV_221D_22_LCD_Monitor |
11:45.04 | Cartas | I've never noticed much, to be honest. |
11:45.14 | Matrix110 | as i said sometimes:P |
11:45.18 | Cartas | The increase in performance far outweighs the tiny quality you gain :p |
11:45.33 | Firik | your sceen will refresh while only half of the screen is rerendered, so you get a line somewhere on your screen |
11:45.37 | Matrix110 | wobin this LCD is pretty expensive Oo |
11:45.37 | nevcairiel | vsync shouldnt really have any impact on your performance |
11:45.48 | Cartas | But it does. |
11:45.52 | wobin_ | Matrix110: ?? |
11:46.00 | wobin_ | Matrix110: It's damn cheap =) |
11:46.01 | nevcairiel | it will limit your max fps to your monitors refresh rate |
11:46.02 | Matrix110 | well nevcairiel it has:P if you have 60Hz you wont have more than 60fps some ppl want 100 |
11:46.03 | nevcairiel | not more. |
11:46.04 | Ominous | nevcairiel, you forget, im on a laptop which is only just over min specs |
11:46.04 | wobin_ | AUD, mind you |
11:46.16 | Matrix110 | how much AUD= $$ |
11:46.21 | wobin_ | USD? |
11:46.27 | Matrix110 | ye |
11:46.27 | nevcairiel | Matrix110: whats the point of more fps then refresh rate? wasted cpu time :( |
11:46.36 | wobin_ | 1 Australian dollar = 0.8374 U.S. dollars |
11:46.37 | CIA-22 | 03jayhawk * r40370 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc PetInfoFu-readme.txt PetInfoFu.lua): |
11:46.37 | CIA-22 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
11:46.37 | CIA-22 | - update for stack overflow bug |
11:46.41 | Firik | humans can't (or hardly can) even see the difference between 60 or 100 fps |
11:46.43 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel i just mean it there are ppl that want 300fps in CS |
11:46.48 | trh | wobin_: if you want to get away cheap, get a graphic card with 2x dvi outputs and 2x 4:3 20" tfts |
11:46.50 | Matrix110 | idc about it:P |
11:46.56 | Cartas | I can notice a difference between the FPS', at least... |
11:46.58 | trh | wobin_: good 20" tfts |
11:47.03 | nevcairiel | if your screen cant even display the 300fps, there is no damn point at all |
11:47.05 | wobin_ | trh: That's what I was intending I guess |
11:47.37 | Ominous | nevcairiel, without vsync my fps is still below refresh rate |
11:47.38 | wobin_ | But I already have a 20"... |
11:47.49 | wobin_ | hm |
11:47.51 | nevcairiel | Ominous: and with it should be exactly the same :) |
11:47.52 | wobin_ | actually it's not =P |
11:47.57 | trh | wobin_: get only one 20" first and see if it is fine |
11:48.05 | trh | wobin_: if not get a second one of the same model # |
11:48.11 | wobin_ | hehe |
11:48.28 | trh | wobin_: fine = works good together with your old one ;) |
11:48.41 | wobin_ | The 20" 204B looks like a good price |
11:48.44 | wobin_ | Samsung |
11:48.46 | Cartas | nevcairiel: Doesn't VSYNC set the FPS to specific amounts? :o |
11:48.53 | trh | ya.. i got a 901B (19") |
11:49.02 | Cartas | Like... if you can't get an FPS = to your refresh rate, (i.e. 60), it sets it to 30? |
11:49.14 | nevcairiel | dont think it does that |
11:49.24 | Cartas | Hm, must've just been that game then... |
11:49.29 | Punkie` | it does do that |
11:49.35 | trh | Cartas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_synchronization |
11:49.41 | Punkie` | well i think it sets your max fps to your refresh rate |
11:49.42 | nevcairiel | i have vsync on, and my fps still jumps between 30 and 50 |
11:49.52 | nevcairiel | it limits your fps to your refresh rate, yeah |
11:50.02 | Cartas | Of course, it jumps. But it tries to fix it moreso to 30...! |
11:50.03 | nevcairiel | but thats all fps you need anyway, you cant see more :P |
11:50.05 | Ominous | if i join a raid up to attuman, then raid carries on with more bosses, then i lead raid tomorrow will i need to kill moros if he was killed today |
11:50.10 | Cartas | I can see more. |
11:50.18 | nevcairiel | you cannot. |
11:50.20 | Cartas | I can tell the difference between 300 and 60 FPS, honestly... |
11:50.35 | nevcairiel | your display cannot display it, how should you be able to see it? |
11:50.56 | Cartas | Hm... |
11:50.59 | trh | Cartas: if you got a tft, you're full of shit :P |
11:51.01 | Cartas | Well, things move faster on-screen and such. |
11:51.14 | Gagorian | Ominous: Umm. Well, if you're saved to an instance with Moroes killed then, of course, he will remain killed |
11:51.33 | nevcairiel | if you have 300 fps on a 60 hz refresh rate, you will see every 5th frame rendered |
11:51.40 | mitch0 | there's a nil ref in Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.modulePrototype:ClearThreat() (line 712) |
11:51.40 | wobin_ | trh: woo, they're selling the 931B Samsung for $335 |
11:51.43 | Cartas | So you see things moving quicker? |
11:51.53 | nevcairiel | no not really |
11:52.01 | nevcairiel | with 60 fps, you would basicly see the same frames |
11:52.02 | mitch0 | happens if I have something targeted and summon my WaterElemental |
11:52.05 | trh | wobin_: we got those in our computer pools at the university :) |
11:52.09 | trh | wobin_: they are nice too |
11:52.14 | nevcairiel | only that it doesnt render the intermediate frames |
11:52.18 | Cartas | Yes? :o Say I'm moving my mouse. If you see every 5th frame, the distance between the two frames you see of the mouse position is greater? |
11:52.41 | nevcairiel | but the time between frames decreases as well |
11:52.49 | nevcairiel | you move your mouse at a fixed speed |
11:52.50 | Cartas | Ah, okay. |
11:52.51 | wobin_ | omg |
11:52.54 | wobin_ | They're in Crows Nest |
11:53.00 | wobin_ | I can bloody walk to this place =P |
11:53.08 | nevcairiel | hehe |
11:53.17 | Cartas | My CRT goes upto 120Hz. |
11:53.28 | nevcairiel | i always try to tune my gfx settings to hit my refresh rate |
11:53.28 | trh | wobin_: at our shop in town the 940NW is 183euro =) |
11:53.28 | wobin_ | My CRT goes up to 11 |
11:53.28 | Cartas | I'll never use VSYNC... it just... I don't know... makes things slower! |
11:53.35 | nevcairiel | and turn on AA/AS to stay on that |
11:53.40 | Cartas | I dislike AA :( |
11:53.47 | Cartas | Pop-ups and tooltips ruin everything. |
11:53.50 | Cartas | Goes all choppy and such. |
11:54.04 | trh | wobin_: (291 aus dollar) |
11:54.35 | Cartas | Been trying to find some way of changing how tooltips are rendered in XP so it won't have that effect on games with AA... but, no luck so far! |
11:54.48 | Cartas | Know any ways to fix that, nevcairiel? :o |
11:55.05 | mitch0 | uhm, why is the threat-1.0 errors thread locked? |
11:55.08 | nevcairiel | you get alot of tooltips while playing? |
11:55.24 | Cartas | Well, on WoW, for example, I have windowed and maximized. |
11:55.44 | Cartas | So, yes. |
11:56.11 | Cartas | Mostly from MSN... |
11:56.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
11:56.30 | nevcairiel | thats why i turn msn off when i plan to raid =P |
11:56.33 | Cartas | No idea why it even makes AA go all choppy... :S |
11:56.34 | Cartas | lol |
11:56.48 | Cartas | Well, I try and get every game I have into windowed mode, so I can still use it. |
11:57.21 | Cartas | What GPU do you use, nevcairiel? |
11:57.34 | nevcairiel | i am on a nv 7900gtx right now |
11:57.46 | Cartas | You get MSN pop-ups while WoWing? |
11:57.49 | Cartas | (Assuming you play WoW) |
11:58.05 | nevcairiel | i play window maximized too, so yeah they sneak in sometimes |
11:58.25 | nevcairiel | but i didnt notice any choppyness |
11:58.27 | Cartas | I think NVidia has it differently to ATi. Just the bottom-part of your screen changes to a past-moment? |
11:58.41 | nevcairiel | yea |
11:58.43 | nevcairiel | where the tooltip is |
11:58.46 | nevcairiel | but not alway |
11:58.47 | nevcairiel | s |
11:58.49 | Cartas | With ATi, everything goes extremely choppy and I go to 1FPS or so. |
11:58.49 | nevcairiel | only sometimes |
11:58.53 | nevcairiel | heh |
11:59.27 | Cartas | If I could get tooltips and MSN pop-ups to be rendered using AA, then I'm sure the problem would be solved! |
11:59.33 | Cartas | Just have to find a way... hmm... |
11:59.35 | wobin_ | I wonder if this will work |
11:59.36 | wobin_ | http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?om=1&ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104096317732888699817.00000113398a6efbe5e66 |
11:59.43 | wobin_ | That's me to that computer shop =P |
12:00.10 | Cartas | Hm... |
12:00.17 | Cartas | I don't like that 'short trip' business, Wobin_. |
12:00.19 | Cartas | You be careful. |
12:00.26 | wobin_ | hehe |
12:00.31 | wobin_ | There could be stabbing hobos |
12:00.44 | wobin_ | I'd still get it delivered |
12:00.54 | Cartas | What do you mean? Me -> short trip -> stab hobo -> short trip -> T1? |
12:01.02 | wobin_ | Cause lugging a cpu and monitor around is irritating |
12:01.03 | trh | "sacrifice the body, protect the tft!" ;) |
12:01.17 | wobin_ | well more "avoid stabbing hobo" |
12:01.22 | Cartas | Ah, okay, lol. |
12:01.27 | Cartas | Anti-stabbing is a good way to avoid, no? |
12:01.28 | wobin_ | "talk to singing hobo instead" |
12:02.41 | wobin_ | hm, would I get better fps if I was in windowed mode, or normal mode? |
12:03.02 | Cartas | If you have a horrible theme with transparency or some other crap then, maybe it's slower :P |
12:03.37 | Cartas | I've no idea though, I think full-screen is faster generally. |
12:03.45 | Cartas | Although I can't tell a difference on mine, to be honest. |
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12:07.40 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
12:07.41 | CIA-22 | - Divided the non step epics into Back/Cloth, Leather, Mail and Plate |
12:08.55 | Leialyn | is there a bluepost about that blizzard "bug" with some custom unitframes crashing in raids? Or whats that PitBull warning with patch 2.1.2 about? |
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12:16.02 | wobin_ | Interestingly enough... |
12:16.12 | wobin_ | I appear to lose my settings when restarting =P |
12:16.15 | wobin_ | with the nvidia driver |
12:17.10 | trh | omg, there are people who actually etch a sketch nice pictures http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYM__s3R5q0 |
12:18.52 | wobin_ | scary |
12:18.54 | wobin_ | very very scary |
12:19.12 | kenlyric | I like ms Paint mona lisa |
12:20.58 | wobin_ | yeah so do I =) |
12:21.03 | wobin_ | But this takes skill |
12:21.37 | Cartas | I made a ship on an Etch-a-Sketch once... |
12:25.00 | kebinusan | I always found this neat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPYd48r0VfU |
12:28.43 | nevcairiel | thats amazing |
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12:32.58 | wobin_ | hehe |
12:33.00 | wobin_ | creepy |
12:33.03 | ravagernl | ckknight, please change pitbull's background inset from 5 to 4, there is a 1px gap visible on .8 UI scale, or let us be able to change the background inset in global options :P |
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12:34.25 | Wobin | oh man Lope, you're on AD =) |
12:34.45 | Wobin | whips |
12:34.49 | Wobin | whups |
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12:35.55 | phyber | hmm |
12:36.15 | phyber | what's with PitBulls warning about crashing. no fancy 'if version then something else something_else end' ? :o |
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12:37.20 | phyber | also, how do you get the "Health Text" abck after you press disabled? |
12:37.34 | phyber | since the text isn't showing and that's why I upgraded :/ |
12:37.44 | Wobin | switch to abf? |
12:38.41 | phyber | I am on ABF. |
12:42.28 | Wobin | Can't help otherwise, I'm afraid |
12:44.39 | trh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbBNqNaZVc8 <- lol, lion king recut trailer to make it look like a horror movie :) |
12:48.21 | moonsorrow | what happened with the cast bar in pitbull when the portrait is enabled? how can I set the width of the cast bar to the total width of the frame again? |
12:49.40 | QuantumDelta | Jesus christ. |
12:49.46 | QuantumDelta | Nice work on pitbull ckknight |
12:49.55 | CIA-22 | 03iceroth * r40372 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua: IceHUD: Added an event handler for target name change |
12:49.55 | QuantumDelta | <- info freak xP |
12:51.02 | Iceroth | hmm, wth has happened to all my screenshots |
12:51.28 | Iceroth | they are like, not there |
12:52.13 | Iceroth | oldest is 23th may |
13:00.36 | kenlyric | butbutbutbutbut I don't wanna go to Uldaman. |
13:06.14 | Kemayo | I hate having to go to ulda for enchanting. It's such a pain. |
13:06.39 | trh | at 70 you can run there without even having to kill a mob ;) |
13:06.43 | kenlyric | why do enchanters have to suffer so? everyone else gets a master trainer in outlands that can do everything. |
13:06.59 | kenlyric | except the last room of scropids. |
13:07.04 | kenlyric | scorpids |
13:07.45 | trh | kenlyric: still not a wild thing? =) |
13:07.45 | kenlyric | ? |
13:07.45 | phyber | kenlyric: the guy at Honor Hold is missing some enchants? |
13:07.56 | kenlyric | the guy at honor hold doesn't do anything before master enchanting. |
13:08.01 | phyber | ah |
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13:08.17 | kenlyric | unlike the tailoring trainer, who does everything. |
13:09.39 | kenlyric | I got no problem with the mobs in uldaman... just those damn scorpids. no aoe = suck |
13:10.20 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: be scryer, there is a enchanting trainer for everythign :P |
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13:13.49 | wnd-setra | hey |
13:13.55 | wnd-setra | anyone mind helping me debug my ace? |
13:15.26 | Wobin | kenlyric: why can't you go to Shatt? |
13:15.46 | wnd-setra | ? |
13:15.49 | wnd-setra | nope |
13:16.01 | kenlyric | the only one in shatt is on scryer tier. |
13:16.05 | Wobin | so? |
13:16.16 | Wobin | You can go up there if you haven't chosen a side yet |
13:16.35 | kenlyric | and? |
13:16.43 | Wobin | I guess you're aldor? =P |
13:16.52 | kenlyric | if I hadn't chosen a side yet, I would be up there :) |
13:16.56 | Wobin | silly man |
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13:19.15 | kenlyric | scorpids were definitely a lot easier than they were at 60. |
13:19.39 | sedatedChipmunk | pft, real men are 0/1000 with both reps |
13:19.56 | hyperChipmunk | oh wait |
13:20.06 | hyperChipmunk | or maybe just engineering hunters |
13:20.11 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: PitBull-r40367\PitBull.lua:166: attempt to index local 'parent' (a nil value) |
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13:27.08 | trh | hyperChipmunk: still bad because you don't get either enchant =) |
13:27.46 | hyperChipmunk | enchant? |
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13:28.10 | liquiem | shoulder |
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13:28.57 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40373 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
13:28.57 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
13:28.57 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Boss |
13:29.06 | hyperChipmunk | psh; one shoulder enchant isn't enough incentive to render half the city kos |
13:30.10 | kenlyric | considering that's the only benefit of being able to go to both places, I think it is. |
13:30.33 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40374 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: updated zhTW localization |
13:30.57 | kenlyric | and, it's the only shoulder enchant unless you want to keep running ZG :) |
13:31.06 | kenlyric | (or naxx) |
13:34.08 | nevcairiel | and they dont kos |
13:34.13 | nevcairiel | they just port you away :P |
13:34.49 | nomenquis | lol, tell that to my level 20 bloodelf alt who happened to run up to the aldors tier ^^ |
13:35.37 | nomenquis | wasn't all too pretty what they did to him :) |
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13:38.05 | |Casey| | hi |
13:41.05 | |Casey| | i have a question about tattle. how do i update my realmpool myself? |
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13:41.14 | hyperChipmunk | And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go, |
13:41.25 | hyperChipmunk | And now the air is shattered by the force of Casey's blow. |
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13:43.11 | hyperChipmunk | |Casey|: download the lua interpreter and the luasocket lib; uncomment line 5 of dataminer.lua and fill in your battlegroup name; change max_num_teams on line 8 if you want; run dataminer.lua with the lua interpreter |
13:43.29 | |Casey| | thx |
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13:48.49 | |Casey| | how do i say the lua interpreter where to find the library? |
13:49.05 | Kemayo | A single # in a toc is a comment, right? |
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13:49.55 | nevcairiel | nomenquis: a lvl 20 alt shouldnt really peek into there anyway :P |
13:50.24 | hyperChipmunk | lua interpreter is at http://lua.org |
13:50.37 | hyperChipmunk | luasocket is at http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~diego/professional/luasocket/ |
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13:51.58 | |Casey| | yeah found both. but now i have a lib and a lua subdir in the folder where the lua binarys are |
13:52.35 | [Liquidor] | http://i15.tinypic.com/663ljsi.jpg |
13:52.45 | hyperChipmunk | you can stick the lib and the executable in the tattle dir and you should be fine |
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13:56.24 | |Casey| | lua error :( |
13:56.46 | |Casey| | lua5.1: ...d of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Tattle\lua\socket.lua:13: module 'sock |
13:56.47 | |Casey| | et.core' not found: |
13:56.47 | |Casey| | <PROTECTED> |
13:56.47 | |Casey| | <PROTECTED> |
13:57.42 | hyperChipmunk | could someone that's done this with windows help this guy? i'm just takin' shots in the dark here =P |
13:57.51 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40375 10SpellCaster/: SpellCaster: discontinued |
13:57.56 | |Casey| | hehe |
13:58.27 | |Casey| | there is no core.lua at all. just a core.dll in /lib/socket/ |
13:58.30 | hyperChipmunk | no joy in mudville >8P |
13:58.47 | hyperChipmunk | I'd just stuff 'em all right in Tattle-1.0 |
13:58.53 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
13:59.40 | |Casey| | are they |
14:00.02 | |Casey| | ok the dirs + lua bins |
14:00.10 | hyperChipmunk | looks like you have them in subdir lua |
14:01.45 | |Casey| | problem is the core.lua it requires isn't in the package. |
14:02.06 | hyperChipmunk | i'd think the core.dll would be sufficient |
14:02.27 | hyperChipmunk | it's not looking for a file; it's looking for a module |
14:02.40 | |Casey| | got it |
14:02.48 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
14:03.02 | |Casey| | just ignored the lua and lib sub dir and moved the files direct in the tattle folder |
14:03.04 | hyperChipmunk | Mighty |Casey| |
14:03.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
14:04.01 | |Casey| | know i must only get him updating the right realmpool |
14:04.12 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: : BulkMail2\BulkMailFu.lua:27: attempt to index field 'inbox' (a nil value) |
14:04.27 | hyperChipmunk | that's line 5 of dataminer.lua |
14:04.30 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: on it |
14:04.37 | |Casey| | he ignored it ^^ |
14:04.48 | hyperChipmunk | uncomment it |
14:04.54 | hyperChipmunk | delete the -- at the start |
14:05.09 | |Casey| | i did |
14:05.14 | |Casey| | i am not dumb ;) |
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14:05.30 | hyperChipmunk | just being thorough; I don't know your lua experience |
14:05.45 | |Casey| | ok lua not much but other languages |
14:05.52 | hyperChipmunk | /nod |
14:06.11 | hyperChipmunk | what's the output look like? |
14:06.16 | |Casey| | localized Realmpoolnames maybe? |
14:06.29 | |Casey| | he is updating Reckoning(US) |
14:06.38 | |Casey| | updateonly = "http://armory.wow-europe.com/Blutdurst" i have |
14:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
14:07.03 | hyperChipmunk | that's probably Bloodlust? |
14:07.12 | |Casey| | no its different |
14:07.16 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
14:07.19 | |Casey| | fixed it somehow now |
14:07.22 | hyperChipmunk | neither URL exist |
14:07.27 | |Casey| | maybe forgot to save ;) |
14:07.39 | |Casey| | works now |
14:07.40 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
14:07.58 | hyperChipmunk | not dumb, indeed |
14:08.01 | |Casey| | poor armory. should me centrilized somehow |
14:08.01 | Dustwhisper | So, how do you in aceoptions (for registerchatcommand) add an option that can take arguments? Like /mymod Option this is a string i want added and have "this is a string i want added" forwarded to a specific function that takes 1 parameter as string ? |
14:08.08 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40376 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
14:08.08 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
14:08.08 | CIA-22 | - potential bugfix for sorting by item rarity |
14:08.25 | hyperChipmunk | Dustwhisper: that'd be a text command |
14:08.44 | hyperChipmunk | http://wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#text |
14:09.11 | Kemayo | Wobin: wowace.py svn now comments out missing embeds in the TOC, for initial load-time decreasing. |
14:09.12 | |Casey| | thx hyperChipmunk |
14:09.23 | hyperChipmunk | certainly >8) |
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14:12.47 | Mech0z | ckknight where do you have the stable version of pitbull? |
14:12.48 | Dustwhisper | hmm hyperChipmunk but how do you set the set/get properties to a predefined function? |
14:12.58 | Mech0z | now that you advise to use 39xxx until 2.1.2 |
14:13.01 | Dustwhisper | only examples i find is by doing set = function() ... end |
14:13.27 | Dustwhisper | dont even want a getter for it tbh |
14:14.02 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40377 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailFu.lua: |
14:14.02 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
14:14.02 | CIA-22 | - BulkMailFu: fixed error if only one of the two BulkMail addons are present |
14:14.23 | Dustwhisper | guess i can just chain them |
14:14.38 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40378 10BulkMail2/BulkMailFu.lua: |
14:14.38 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
14:14.38 | CIA-22 | - BulkMailFu: fixed error if only one of the two BulkMail addons are present |
14:15.07 | hyperChipmunk | set = "MyFunction" |
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14:15.47 | hyperChipmunk | and you can do get = false |
14:16.45 | Dustwhisper | oh |
14:17.01 | Dustwhisper | so set = "Funcname" will automaticly handing passing all arguments to that function aswell |
14:17.25 | nevcairiel | yea |
14:17.54 | Dustwhisper | getting used to this lua thingy ain't the easiest in the world |
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14:18.29 | Wobin | Kemayo: interstign |
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14:19.19 | vhaarr | Dustwhisper: This isn't Lua, it's Ace2 :) |
14:19.22 | zanthor | gud morgin folks |
14:19.54 | Dustwhisper | well |
14:20.03 | Dustwhisper | syntax wise |
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14:25.22 | hyperChipmunk | luckily, lua syntax is very forgiving |
14:25.48 | |Casey| | hyperChipmunk you are not a developer of tattle right? |
14:26.17 | hyperChipmunk | nope |
14:27.04 | |Casey| | a centralized database would be a nice idee. maybe i build something like that if i find the time to |
14:27.51 | |Casey| | 15min for just the update of one realmpool is a long time |
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14:28.13 | hyperChipmunk | well, it does update them all every week |
14:28.17 | |Casey| | a complete database about all chars would be nice ^^ |
14:28.39 | hyperChipmunk | but it only does top 300 of each group for each realm |
14:28.39 | |Casey| | the talents can change more often ;) |
14:29.00 | CIA-22 | 03evilelvis * r40379 10eePanels/ (core.lua localization.deDE.lua): eePanels: localization tweak, indentation change |
14:29.12 | |Casey| | ah ok nice to know |
14:29.27 | hyperChipmunk | well, if you got a box that isn't doing anything, then you can do it more often and commit it to the svn |
14:30.28 | |Casey| | exactly what i have got |
14:30.28 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40380 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-deDE.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: deDE Update |
14:30.50 | |Casey| | but i didn't tought about the svn. a daily commit? thems as spam to me ^^ |
14:33.33 | hyperChipmunk | you're worried about spam on a svn repo that's currently on revision 40380 |
14:33.36 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
14:33.39 | nevcairiel | heh |
14:33.49 | hyperChipmunk | after only a year in use |
14:33.54 | mikma | I don't know what you guys whine! KLHThreatMeter increases my FPS! look here: http://wow.reaktio.net/ok1.jpg -> http://wow.reaktio.net/ok2.jpg |
14:34.19 | [dRaCo] | lol |
14:35.32 | liquiem | and if you switch off your monitor, you'll get a massiv fps boost, seriously |
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14:35.42 | hyperChipmunk | hee |
14:36.15 | hyperChipmunk | monitor off + vsync = ??? |
14:36.23 | hyperChipmunk | the mind boggles! |
14:36.59 | zanthorx | is there any way to reclaim my nick Zanthor? I'm registered, but I crashed and now it wont let me back in |
14:37.16 | nevcairiel | ./ns ghost nick password |
14:37.21 | nevcairiel | without the . |
14:37.22 | nevcairiel | :) |
14:37.25 | hyperChipmunk | /msg nickserv ghost |
14:37.28 | nevcairiel | or with the . and we can have fun |
14:37.33 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
14:38.00 | zanthor | danke |
14:38.08 | hyperChipmunk | ./msg nickserv hyperChipmunk nevsuxdix |
14:38.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
14:38.15 | Chompers | out of 10 arena games, we've won 1 |
14:38.23 | nevcairiel | wonder how many people actually tried that now |
14:38.24 | Chompers | cya 1700 rating :/ |
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14:43.58 | |Casey| | with whom i need to talk about an svn account? |
14:44.35 | zanthor | I'm just gonna guess, but I'd think thats on the wowace site probably under the area that talks about guidelines for developers |
14:44.52 | |Casey| | hm could be ^^ |
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14:45.37 | hyperChipmunk | |Casey|: Kaelten |
14:45.42 | dodgizzla | ~ktmflamethread |
14:45.49 | dodgizzla | no? damn, somebody should add that |
14:45.51 | KarlThePagan | there is a rules page |Casey| - that's the proper route rather than irc ;) |
14:45.54 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
14:46.00 | KarlThePagan | read & sign it |
14:46.33 | KarlThePagan | I recommend start by checking into branches |
14:46.41 | KarlThePagan | if you're committing a new project |
14:47.44 | Wobin | wtb shammy group recall at level 70 |
14:48.37 | Gandharva | Adirelle: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6768.msg111904#msg111904 |
14:48.52 | Adirelle | Gandharva: was looking at it |
14:49.33 | Adirelle | I'll add some debugging stuff, and maybe a limited UI to see what's hapenning |
14:49.48 | Adirelle | which revision did you used ? |
14:49.58 | Gandharva | ok, I'm in TK atm and will test it |
14:50.33 | Gandharva | 40290 |
14:50.46 | Adirelle | are you using KTM too ? |
14:51.31 | Gandharva | no |
14:51.48 | Gandharva | onle threat 1.0 / violation / omen |
14:51.52 | Gandharva | *only |
14:52.10 | Silviu- | Adirelle i tested yesterday too with a priest he was using ktm me onem + threat not sending anything |
14:52.22 | Gandharva | debug says "no ktm users found" |
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14:53.06 | Silviu- | omen* |
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14:57.56 | hyperChipmunk | complete vulnerability ftl D8< |
14:58.01 | kenlyric | man, pyroblast is nasty as an opening spell, but oh so slow. |
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15:00.33 | NelsonM | how often does the WoW client corrupt the .lua savedvariables files? |
15:00.41 | NelsonM | mine replaced all my .lua with NUL characters when my computer crashed last night |
15:00.53 | NelsonM | pretty astonishing failure mode |
15:01.11 | hyperChipmunk | ouch |
15:01.14 | hyperChipmunk | never seen that |
15:01.15 | KarlThePagan | NelsonM, mine sorta did that when i ran the game as administrator |
15:01.25 | NelsonM | you can run the game as something other than administrator? :-) |
15:01.28 | hyperChipmunk | good think you back those up on a regular basis |
15:01.32 | KarlThePagan | in vista.. yea |
15:01.36 | hyperChipmunk | s/think/thing/ |
15:01.55 | KarlThePagan | and on windows XP I would recommend running as power user not admin |
15:01.57 | NelsonM | it's pretty funny, i have 5 megabyte files that are 5 megabytes of 0x00. that's a pretty weird way to corrupt a file, I wonder if they're mmap()ing it to save or something |
15:02.00 | KarlThePagan | until you get an updat |
15:02.11 | NelsonM | oh yes, I regularly back up and rotate all my computer game files |
15:02.22 | NelsonM | in fact, I've hired a sysadmin to administrate my computer, just for WoW |
15:02.26 | kenlyric | I had a bad USB flash drive corrupt my SVs once. It was very odd. |
15:02.30 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
15:02.46 | NelsonM | this got corrupted when my computer bluescreened as WoW was exiting. second time in a year, actually. |
15:02.54 | NelsonM | anyway, am I the only one? or is this common? |
15:03.00 | hyperChipmunk | back those up to tapes, yo |
15:03.14 | hyperChipmunk | hasn't ever happened to me |
15:03.16 | NelsonM | but don't copy that floppy, dog |
15:03.17 | KarlThePagan | no, that makes sense NelsonM ... but what are in the .bak files in your WTF folder did those help? |
15:03.31 | KarlThePagan | NelsonM, and in all honesty the windows "Briefcase" feature is good for backup of saved variables - but I haven't done it in a while... |
15:03.32 | NelsonM | the .bak files are all a month old, which seems odd. when does WoW write the .baks? |
15:03.34 | KarlThePagan | perhaps I should |
15:03.51 | KarlThePagan | probably after a patch |
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15:04.58 | Mikk | i save my savedvars to a local SVN repo :> |
15:05.03 | KarlThePagan | haha |
15:05.21 | KarlThePagan | that's hardcore |
15:06.01 | NelsonM | really the whole filesystem should be versioned. but you know, this is 2007, can't do futuristic ideas from 1995 |
15:06.46 | hyperChipmunk | speak for yerself |
15:06.47 | NelsonM | even WinFS doesn't support versioning, does it? |
15:06.55 | KarlThePagan | that's longhorn |
15:06.58 | KarlThePagan | IIRC |
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15:07.11 | Mikk | aka windows vista |
15:07.14 | Mikk | and it was left out |
15:07.21 | KarlThePagan | huh, well I haven't noticed ;) |
15:07.24 | KarlThePagan | oic |
15:07.26 | KarlThePagan | haha |
15:07.34 | NelsonM | I use rsnapshot on my linux boxes, which is generally good enough for this. I assume it's nearly impossible in WinXP, but I'm surprised Vista didn't add it. It's a fashionable filesystem idea. |
15:07.41 | Mikk | they're apparently contemplating releasing winfs as a separate package for vista |
15:07.44 | NelsonM | I think I read that Apple is doing it |
15:08.03 | KarlThePagan | NelsonM, seriously try the briefcase method... or local svn repos ;) |
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15:08.28 | NelsonM | or right click "add to zip", yeah. ugh. |
15:08.41 | KarlThePagan | yea |
15:09.02 | KarlThePagan | I think of all the interfaces there I would say svn > briefcase > zip |
15:09.05 | NelsonM | still confused how 20 megabytes of files could be replaced by 0x00. that must be a bad interaction wtih the OS, like a mmap |
15:09.09 | Bruners | anyone found a way to fix the missing realm problem ? |
15:09.17 | KarlThePagan | with svn and briefcase it'll be easy to detect individual file changes |
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15:09.37 | Mikk | NelsonM: indeedly |
15:09.49 | Bruners | probably only a EU problem |
15:09.54 | KarlThePagan | NelsonM, or it could have still been in the controller and hd buffers |
15:10.08 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40381 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
15:10.08 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
15:10.08 | CIA-22 | - add \255s to the end of subject lines for uniqueness to further differentiate them; BM2I will use a combination of TTL and subject to determine uniqueness |
15:11.05 | Laric | ap-pom-pyro is a nice opener :P |
15:11.21 | NelsonM | postal lis really buggy, is someone maintaining it? I love it in general |
15:11.37 | Laric | but it seems that I nuke over anything on omen when I do :( |
15:13.52 | KarlThePagan | NelsonM, it's in development |
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15:14.03 | KarlThePagan | if you want stability use the version you see on wowi |
15:14.13 | NelsonM | where's the fun in that? |
15:15.02 | KarlThePagan | heh... well I've trolled enough - off to do my daily quests |
15:15.12 | NelsonM | isn't sunday a day off? |
15:15.47 | KarlThePagan | not for me, notice the nick? |
15:15.48 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
15:16.11 | NelsonM | the Arrakoa are a godly people though. Hmm. |
15:16.35 | Dustwhisper | anyway a mod can control which chatframe shows? |
15:16.46 | Dustwhisper | and/or enumerate them all |
15:17.40 | Gandharva | Adirelle: any news? :) |
15:17.56 | Adirelle | Gandharva: working on it |
15:18.07 | Adirelle | I'm adding a few GUI to easy checking |
15:18.14 | Adirelle | s/easy/ease/ |
15:18.32 | Adirelle | (mainly a fubar plugin with an informative tooltip) |
15:19.22 | smoke_ | anyone know where elemntal flux might save stuff to other than the WTF folder? |
15:19.54 | smoke_ | i used alt+click to resize it but it broke it somehow the display, so i deleted all the savedvariable files in the wtf folder but the settings wont reset.. |
15:20.23 | Gandharva | purl: hehe |
15:20.23 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, hehe is eheh |
15:20.27 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40382 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
15:20.27 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
15:20.27 | CIA-22 | - use daysLeft..subject as unique identifier for mails when using Take Selected |
15:21.07 | Gandharva | <---- void reaver - first attempt |
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15:27.16 | KarlThePagan | does anyone know of an aceevent based apexis puzzle mod? perhaps ... a bigwigs module lol |
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15:28.54 | Matrix110 | Apexis Puzzle? |
15:28.57 | Matrix110 | you mean the Relic |
15:28.58 | Matrix110 | ? |
15:29.05 | KarlThePagan | yea |
15:29.06 | Matrix110 | Just write it down in chat:P |
15:29.10 | Matrix110 | r g b y |
15:29.19 | Matrix110 | easily doable then |
15:29.34 | KarlThePagan | yea about that... um apparently you don't get horrible lag spikes that make 3 of them fire simultaneously |
15:29.38 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
15:29.42 | FISKER_Q | pretty annoying |
15:29.45 | KarlThePagan | write that down |
15:29.48 | kebinusan | yeah I do that in teh edit box |
15:30.01 | [dRaCo] | I heard some rumors about a mod called orgilazy |
15:30.01 | kebinusan | just bring up the edit box and do rbgybbwhatever |
15:30.04 | KarlThePagan | i can solve the puzzle just fine... i got 10 at the same time |
15:30.09 | [dRaCo] | dunno if its on the svn |
15:30.13 | KarlThePagan | ~smite kebinusan |
15:30.14 | purl | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves kebinusan from crown to sole. |
15:30.23 | FISKER_Q | Ogri'lazy is just 4 buttons |
15:30.25 | KarlThePagan | ~whalecrit Matrix110 |
15:30.26 | purl | ACTION crits Matrix110 with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Matrix110 dies |
15:30.30 | Ominous | hmm is dev.wowace.com down |
15:30.34 | kebinusan | ~whaleparry KarlThePagan |
15:30.34 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry KarlThePagan's attacks. |
15:30.36 | Matrix110 | KarlThePagan then its quite hard to do it atall |
15:30.39 | FISKER_Q | kinda like if you pressed 1,2,3,4 responding to each different color |
15:30.48 | Matrix110 | i dont think that you can detect it |
15:30.50 | KarlThePagan | Matrix110, but a mod would tell me which event occurred first :P |
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15:31.42 | KarlThePagan | FISKER_Q, does ogrilazy use events or does it require user input? |
15:31.46 | FISKER_Q | user input |
15:31.52 | KarlThePagan | well i'm fucked |
15:31.53 | KarlThePagan | yay lag |
15:31.59 | FISKER_Q | you press the colors corresponding to the onces being made |
15:32.01 | FISKER_Q | indeed |
15:32.11 | Matrix110 | get a better inet connection:P |
15:32.23 | Punkie` | is there someway I can find out if an addon is loaded ? |
15:32.27 | [dRaCo] | KarlThePagan: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7167 |
15:32.30 | [dRaCo] | try that one |
15:32.40 | Ominous | pukie, AddonLoaded(name)? i think |
15:32.41 | [dRaCo] | dunno how/if it works |
15:32.52 | Punkie` | ok cool will try it ominous |
15:32.57 | Ominous | ill check |
15:33.10 | Ominous | IsAddOnLoaded(index or "AddOnName") |
15:33.18 | Punkie` | ah niceone thanks |
15:34.08 | kebinusan | take it apart and look at it :-) |
15:34.40 | hyperChipmunk | lol you have to do it manually |
15:34.48 | hyperChipmunk | you think they'd make it detectable? |
15:35.08 | zanthor | is there some form of artificial framerate throttle in wow? |
15:35.19 | Ominous | zanzor no |
15:35.22 | nevcairiel | yeah its called ktm |
15:35.25 | Ominous | zanthor, no* |
15:35.42 | zanthor | I've got a guy with a really obscene system (dual 8800sli, dual quad core cpu) and he sticks solid @ 60fps |
15:35.49 | [dRaCo] | vsync |
15:35.53 | nevcairiel | zanthor: vsync |
15:35.54 | hyperChipmunk | turn off vsync |
15:36.40 | FtH|Daemona | any BigWigs coder here? |
15:36.40 | FISKER_Q | oh S-NAP nevcairiel |
15:36.56 | zanthor | from 60 to 136... |
15:36.58 | zanthor | thanks |
15:36.59 | nevcairiel | what now FISKER_Q? |
15:37.09 | zanthor | in shatrah |
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15:37.16 | nevcairiel | zanthor: not that it matters, but he wont really have any advantage from the extra fps :) |
15:37.38 | zanthor | e-peen |
15:37.44 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
15:37.48 | [dRaCo] | fps are important. |
15:38.03 | [dRaCo] | double your fps, double your size. |
15:38.09 | zanthor | fps < 30 are important |
15:38.14 | nevcairiel | true |
15:38.16 | zanthor | > 30 are just overkill |
15:38.19 | CIA-22 | 03nimbal * r40383 10Buffalo2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
15:38.19 | CIA-22 | Buffalo2: |
15:38.20 | CIA-22 | - Fixed icons not agreeing with tooltips and timers |
15:38.20 | CIA-22 | - Fixed ghost coloring |
15:38.20 | CIA-22 | - buff.timeLeft and buff.duration are now available not only for target debuffs, but also for buffs and debuffs, not limited to target (buffs / debuffs you can cast, of course) |
15:38.20 | nevcairiel | but fps > refresh rate are not |
15:38.21 | CIA-22 | - Added maxIcons to template options. There will never be more icons displayed than this number. |
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15:41.18 | vhaarr | FtH|Daemona: me |
15:43.50 | Punkie` | hey guys, if I use unpack(randomdatabasething) is there any way to get it to list all the values? |
15:43.57 | Punkie` | at the moment it only lists the first value |
15:44.11 | Xuerian | Recursively, you mean? |
15:45.20 | Punkie` | I guess! |
15:45.40 | FISKER_Q | yay nimbal |
15:45.41 | Punkie` | I have 4 values, preferably I would just like to list it as: 1, 2, 3 ,4 |
15:45.47 | Punkie` | instead if it just saying 1 |
15:45.52 | nevcairiel | isnt that what unpack does? |
15:45.59 | Xuerian | that's what unpack does, it returns a touple |
15:46.04 | Xuerian | tuple* |
15:46.15 | Punkie` | it doesn't work :( |
15:46.23 | Punkie` | it just lists the first value o.O |
15:46.26 | nevcairiel | unpack({1,2,3}) returns 1, 2, 3 |
15:46.29 | Xuerian | local a, b, c, d = unpack({1, 2, 3, 4}) |
15:46.33 | trh | oh lol.. kenco did it again |
15:46.39 | Xuerian | where a, b, c, d = 1, 2, 3, 4 |
15:46.41 | trh | it so pointless to discuss anything with that jerk |
15:46.46 | Punkie` | I have: |
15:46.48 | Punkie` | get = function() return unpack(self.db.profile.energyvalues) end, |
15:47.07 | nevcairiel | guess that wont work |
15:47.13 | nevcairiel | what type of option is it? |
15:47.23 | Punkie` | text :o |
15:47.31 | Xuerian | */dump mod.db.profile.energyvalues and see what you actually need to unpack |
15:47.37 | Punkie` | ok |
15:48.05 | Xuerian | Also |
15:48.07 | Xuerian | ehm |
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15:48.10 | nevcairiel | and pastey a bit more code |
15:48.12 | nevcairiel | :) |
15:48.25 | Xuerian | get probably only uses one value in the return tuple, so the rest is discarded |
15:48.59 | Punkie` | ok |
15:49.16 | Ominous | its not possible to sort a table that isnt numerically indexed is it |
15:49.22 | Xuerian | Ominous: It is |
15:49.29 | Ominous | how |
15:49.38 | Xuerian | Ominous: You have to write your own iterator or cross-reference the table, though |
15:49.45 | Ominous | ? |
15:50.09 | Punkie` | http://ace.pastey.net/57022 |
15:50.14 | Xuerian | Ominous: There's a iterator ck wrote in xloottools.lua in xloot that handles hashes. It's crazy voodoo though |
15:50.36 | Punkie` | btw i couldnt get that validate thing to work either xD |
15:50.43 | Xuerian | Punkie`: table.concat (table [, sep [, i [, j]]]) |
15:51.04 | Xuerian | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.5 |
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15:51.31 | Punkie` | but the table is indexed o.O |
15:51.58 | Hjalte | I know threattoktm is work in process, but i shouldnt have to do anything else than installing it to have it send my threat, right? |
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15:52.42 | Punkie` | is there any way to get that validate thingie working too? :) |
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15:53.09 | Nimbal | Hello everyone |
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15:54.51 | Punkie` | Xuerian: this is my DB though: http://ace.pastey.net/57023 |
15:54.52 | Iceroth | any chance to implement a check to Gladiator if Tattle is present or not? |
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15:57.30 | Chompers | wow, the ktm thread gets better every day |
15:58.01 | Morghus | PitBull_BarFader.lua errors, alot of them. And AceConsole 2.0. |
15:58.09 | FISKER_Q | nah |
15:58.10 | Chompers | Antiarc makes a good post, kenco pretty much goes "OMGZ TROLLZ" |
15:58.17 | Wobin | It's high time that thread gets locked =P |
15:58.30 | Wobin | It's gotten to the point where I'm almost about to post =P |
15:58.35 | Wobin | and I don't want to escalate =P |
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15:58.58 | Chompers | why is he so hostile to....logic ? |
15:59.08 | Chompers | or reasoning |
15:59.13 | Punkie` | oh man, THERE IS SO MUCH TEXT! *reads* |
15:59.21 | trh | Chompers: he's a moron jackass. |
15:59.32 | trh | Chompers: or sick.. i don't know... and don't care |
15:59.52 | Chompers | its such a shame. he could make ktm so efficent |
16:00.05 | FISKER_Q | oh well more to hate Curse for is a win-win |
16:00.26 | trh | anyway.. let's all make threat better than ktm and the users will switch |
16:00.42 | Punkie` | "Also had this cool brainstorm today about dynamic processor throttling which i might implement." |
16:00.43 | Punkie` | hehe |
16:00.48 | Chompers | :P |
16:01.10 | KarlThePagan | he could do "better" than an ace-based addon if he actually tried... it would at least look better on the profiler if it didn't use libraries... but that's a lot of good work to duplicate |
16:01.19 | trh | Punkie`: the funny thing is, that he replied to me that it has nothing to do with ktmcpumanager, he wants to make it less cpu time in heavy raid situations |
16:01.31 | trh | Punkie`: i have no idea why only then, but whatever |
16:01.41 | Punkie` | yeah |
16:02.08 | Chompers | does ktm really check if you're fighting the twin emps everywhere you go? |
16:02.12 | Chompers | or was that a joke |
16:02.15 | Wobin | apparantly =P |
16:02.20 | Wobin | I've yet to find the code though |
16:02.26 | Xuerian | Punkie`: return table.concat(db.profile.energyvalues, ', ') |
16:02.29 | Wobin | I was looking for the OMG Suddenly Hunter code |
16:02.46 | KarlThePagan | might be the refresh talents code every 10 sec |
16:02.57 | Chompers | thats fucking ridiculuos |
16:03.02 | trh | Chompers: look at KTM_My.lua in me.redostates() |
16:03.03 | Wobin | I think it's possibly the check for feign death code |
16:03.09 | Chompers | checking now trh |
16:03.15 | trh | Chompers: that's one of the function that he calls every frame! |
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16:04.11 | theoddone33 | what forum is this thread on? |
16:04.19 | Xuerian | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
16:04.24 | Chompers | he checks if the players charmed....every frame? |
16:04.53 | theoddone33 | wow... |
16:04.55 | theoddone33 | that's quite a lot of text |
16:05.13 | Xuerian | theoddone33: It goes back 12 pages. |
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16:05.58 | trh | Chompers: yep.. and basically every "module" in ktm can do such things |
16:06.08 | Punkie` | Xuerian: HAWT! |
16:06.12 | Chompers | fucking boggles my mind |
16:06.14 | trh | Chompers: and he's checking if the player is in combat.. i mean: WTF? PLAYER_ENTERING_COMBAT? =) |
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16:06.34 | Wobin | ... |
16:06.39 | Chompers | why not wait for the player to be flagged in combat? |
16:06.43 | Chompers | WHY |
16:06.46 | Wobin | Isn't he doing multiple table lookups with each check? |
16:06.58 | Wobin | me.states.playercharmed is a triple lookup, isn't it? |
16:07.13 | Punkie` | How come Kenco has to insult someone at least once in his posts :/ |
16:07.18 | trh | Wobin: when in combat he runs for loops to check for recent attacks and stuff |
16:07.30 | Wobin | Punkie`: That's exactly what I don't like about it |
16:07.49 | Wobin | There's one. -one- response without an insult |
16:08.17 | trh | Punkie`: because he can't argue with reason, his coding sucks at this place, he doesnt know it but feels insulted |
16:08.27 | Punkie` | yeah, shame |
16:08.56 | Punkie` | The funny thing is Threat-1.0 spawned out of antiarc trying to give him some tips on how to improve his code? |
16:09.17 | trh | Punkie`: so he a) defends himself by saying we cant test/measure/argue, regardless of whats true and b) insults our skills/work/intelligence |
16:10.35 | Wobin | At least he comments a lot in his code |
16:10.38 | Wobin | I'll give him that =) |
16:10.41 | Chompers | what's it called when an addon waits for an event to occur before doing something? |
16:10.47 | Chompers | event-driven i guess? |
16:10.50 | Wobin | yeah |
16:10.55 | Wobin | polling is the opposite |
16:11.03 | Wobin | where it fires after a determined time period |
16:11.16 | trh | Wobin: but still, who the hell uses globals like "thismod" |
16:11.19 | Chompers | what a waste of resources |
16:11.37 | Kalman| | trh: People without formal software training. |
16:11.42 | Wobin | well duh |
16:11.47 | Wobin | His is the only mod that matters |
16:12.03 | Chompers | we're got a few people using really old laptaps in my guild, i'd imagine they'd be very happy with an extra 10fps |
16:12.08 | Wobin | We should all put in code that overwrites the global thismod =P |
16:12.18 | Kalman| | Wobin: Nah. Keep the high road. |
16:12.21 | Wobin | Chompers: Ha |
16:12.27 | Wobin | I'd be happy with 10fps =) |
16:12.37 | trh_ | Wobin: i don't think we should go to that low niveau |
16:12.41 | Kalman| | When's the new machine arrive, Wobin? |
16:12.42 | Gagorian | MyAddon:OnEnable() |
16:12.45 | Gagorian | thismod = nil |
16:12.46 | Gagorian | end |
16:12.47 | Wobin | I've yet to buy it =P |
16:12.51 | Chompers | hahahh |
16:12.52 | Kalman| | Well, get to it! :p |
16:12.58 | Wobin | It's 2am! |
16:13.02 | Chompers | anyone sent you moneys yet Wobin? |
16:13.02 | Wobin | I'll find out tomorrow |
16:13.05 | Kalman| | Mail order is open at 2 AM! |
16:13.10 | Wobin | hehe no =) |
16:13.22 | Wobin | And that's for a Frakkin Great TV fund, anyway =) |
16:13.23 | trh_ | your shops are opened on sunday? |
16:13.30 | Kalman| | Mail order? |
16:13.33 | Kalman| | Yes. |
16:13.46 | trh_ | oh ok |
16:13.51 | Kalman| | And actually most shops are open til 5 or 6 PM today. |
16:13.53 | trh_ | but you dont get it on sunday do you? |
16:14.03 | Chompers | no enough use of the word 'Frack' in that thread |
16:14.06 | Chompers | or motherfracker |
16:14.10 | Kalman| | No, but it's mail order, it's going to be a few days no matter what. |
16:14.22 | Wobin | We need more lobo =) |
16:14.55 | Wobin | I'll find out when the place closes, then head over and talk to them |
16:15.02 | Wobin | I want to make a few changes to the spec they're offering |
16:15.34 | Gnarfoz | trh_: shops open on sunday, perhaps it'll happen for us soon, too... I hear stuff is on it's way through the mills of our political system regarding this subject^^ |
16:15.56 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: hehe.. in schleswig holstein in the seebäder many shops are open |
16:16.07 | FISKER_Q | ugh |
16:16.07 | Mech0z | ckknight where do you have the stable version of pitbull? |
16:16.08 | FISKER_Q | germans! |
16:16.11 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: but i have alot of doubts that they'll change anything in bavaria =) |
16:16.12 | Mech0z | now that you advise to use 39xxx until 2.1.2 |
16:16.17 | FISKER_Q | Mech0z files.wowace.com |
16:16.32 | FISKER_Q | http://www.wowace.com/files/PitBull/ |
16:16.49 | Mech0z | r40367 |
16:16.53 | FISKER_Q | btw Quake Wars beta next week :o |
16:17.06 | Gnarfoz | trh_: hm, if they do it on a state basis, then rest assured, if some do it, eventually all will follow suit ^^ |
16:17.18 | Punkie` | "Gee, those were some inspiring posts about absolute versus relative time. Inspiringly stupid. I'm going to explain in simple terms why you are wrong, but you'll have to pay close attention since mathematics doesn't appear to be your strong suit." |
16:17.23 | Punkie` | oh dear god, i lolled |
16:17.32 | FISKER_Q | http://files.wowace.com/PitBull/PitBull-r39408.1046.zip |
16:17.46 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: öffnungszeiten sind ländersache - at the moment in bavaria. stores closed at 20:00, in BW, shops open till 21:00 or 22 or even later |
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16:18.05 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: luckily i can choose with just walking over a bridge where to buy =) |
16:18.05 | Mech0z | FISKER_Q thx |
16:18.11 | liquiem | trh_: i like your denglisch :p |
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16:18.20 | Mech0z | FISKER_Q is that open beta? |
16:18.26 | trh_ | liquiem: hehe |
16:18.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah, like I said, if some states do it, eventually all will do it, because of just that, people will go to where they can buy stuff late :D |
16:18.57 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: true |
16:19.08 | FISKER_Q | Mech0z "open" |
16:19.11 | FISKER_Q | as in Fileplanet keke |
16:19.58 | FISKER_Q | http://www.fileplanet.com/178186/170000/fileinfo/Enemy-Territory:-Quake-Wars---Beta-Client <-a shame you can't download :( |
16:20.41 | Boubouille | stupid question ! |
16:20.47 | Boubouille | is there a way to change the FoV of the game ? |
16:20.55 | hyperChipmunk | no |
16:20.58 | hyperChipmunk | well |
16:21.04 | hyperChipmunk | Longsight buff |
16:21.11 | Boubouille | hmmmm k |
16:21.47 | TecnoBrat | Does Threat-1.0 sync with KTM? |
16:22.02 | hyperChipmunk | reads; writes is under development |
16:22.07 | dodgizzla | purl should auto-reply to such questions :D |
16:22.12 | KarlThePagan | TecnoBrat, ThreatToKTM does |
16:22.22 | Chompers | stupid fileplanet |
16:22.25 | hyperChipmunk | in default config, purl does pipe in |
16:22.34 | hyperChipmunk | this one doesn't reply unless directly spoken to |
16:22.35 | Chompers | i want mah quakewars beta >:| |
16:22.40 | dodgizzla | purl: answer ffs! |
16:22.41 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r40384 10BananaDKP/type/Symphony.lua: BananaDKP: Forgot to commit some changes to our dkp formula. |
16:22.51 | Trancer | feature request for Omen, make it a 'plugin' for FuBar/DeuceCommander so the Icon can be removed from the Minimap (right now it's only detachable) |
16:22.53 | trh_ | cool.. just found http://trh.ath.cx/~trh/pics/Ulm_Blick_auf_Donau.jpg - the bridge that connects bavaria from bw =) |
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16:23.36 | TecnoBrat | So ThreatToKTM sends info to KTM .. but by default Threat-1.0 reads from KTM? correct? |
16:23.39 | Kalman| | Trancer: ? Pretty sure my Omen install is fubar only, no minimap icon. |
16:23.43 | Morghus | AceConsole errors keep popping up lately. Who do I report to? Oo |
16:23.44 | Kalman| | TecnoBrat: Correct. |
16:23.49 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40385 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (addon.lua import.lua): |
16:23.49 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Trainers |
16:23.49 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
16:23.50 | KarlThePagan | TecnoBrat, yes |
16:23.56 | TecnoBrat | Cool, thanks guys. |
16:24.02 | Trancer | Kalman|: Hmm, I run no FuBar and I have a minimap Icon (I do run DeuceCommander) |
16:24.06 | FISKER_Q | the best ktm sync would be an addon that queried for KTM and kicked people from the raid, group or guild |
16:24.18 | Trancer | I run rev 40070 though, perhaps it got coded yesterday |
16:24.26 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
16:24.29 | KarlThePagan | the minimap stuff is a standard fubar plugin feature |
16:24.30 | Chompers | why has no one went "L2Code" in the ktm thread :P |
16:24.32 | Kalman| | Trancer: It's been like that for a while, but I do run fubar. |
16:24.37 | FISKER_Q | with the possibillity of random values sent to confuse KTM and the user |
16:24.44 | Kaelten | anyone here able to make graphics for wow? |
16:24.45 | Trancer | *writes a cronjob that automagically updates omen* ;-) |
16:24.47 | hyperChipmunk | kenco already beat us to it |
16:24.58 | Wobin | he calls it KTM |
16:24.58 | KarlThePagan | kek |
16:25.03 | vhaarr | Kaelten: Ask Mikk. |
16:25.17 | TecnoBrat | hyperChipmunk, didnt you know everyone here doesnt know how to code? |
16:25.28 | TecnoBrat | and that the CPU and mem profilers in wow are wrong? |
16:25.32 | hyperChipmunk | wow, learn to program |
16:25.37 | KarlThePagan | wow learn to program |
16:25.50 | KarlThePagan | purl wow is wow learn to program |
16:25.50 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, KarlThePagan |
16:26.08 | Wobin | hehe |
16:26.13 | FISKER_Q | #wowace is probably the biggest collection of childish immature retarded incompetent coders in all of history |
16:26.19 | Chompers | :O |
16:26.25 | FISKER_Q | (pun intended or whatever) |
16:26.26 | Trancer | Then why are you still here? ;-) |
16:26.29 | Chompers | oh god, what if Kenco is here RIGHT NOW |
16:26.36 | KarlThePagan | lulz |
16:26.37 | FISKER_Q | because i'm the biggest of them |
16:26.50 | KarlThePagan | maybe he'll get some tips |
16:26.52 | Wobin | ahah |
16:26.56 | Trancer | heh |
16:26.58 | Wobin | not like he'd go slumming =P |
16:27.02 | KarlThePagan | LIKE HE COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN ACE IF HE REALLY WANTED TO TRY |
16:27.06 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
16:27.09 | Wobin | Not too hard =P |
16:27.12 | Trancer | Wobin: kudos for making MrPlow btw |
16:27.19 | Wobin | Trancer: Thank you =) |
16:27.21 | Trancer | Wobin: we've a cute forum thread about it titled "BEST ADDON EVER" |
16:27.25 | FISKER_Q | nah |
16:27.28 | FISKER_Q | Kodos Wobin, KODOS |
16:27.29 | Trancer | ;-) |
16:27.34 | Wobin | IT's true |
16:27.38 | Trancer | Yes, it is |
16:27.38 | Wobin | I'd want Kodos =) |
16:27.50 | Wobin | I'd keep one in the bathroom |
16:27.57 | Trancer | Kodo's allow undead to ride through the rivers in UC :~( |
16:27.58 | Kalman| | ... |
16:28.07 | Kalman| | What would you do with a bathroom kodo, Wobin? |
16:28.07 | KarlThePagan | lol |
16:28.09 | Wobin | well it'd be silly to keep him in the sitting room |
16:28.10 | Kalman| | Do we want to know? |
16:28.13 | FISKER_Q | I can ride through rivers on all mounts besides the hawkstrider |
16:28.14 | FISKER_Q | on my undead |
16:28.20 | FISKER_Q | i think |
16:28.21 | Xuerian | haha. pgl ftw. |
16:28.43 | Trancer | Must be global warming in UC then, the rivers are drying up! |
16:31.32 | FISKER_Q | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182097040039.jpg <-holy shit |
16:31.38 | FISKER_Q | they're fagging all over happycat |
16:31.40 | FISKER_Q | fuck them :( |
16:31.41 | dodgizzla | Antiarc: I know you don't care about Sanity anymore :D But when I try to delete data for a character nothing happens :( |
16:32.35 | FISKER_Q | sanity is the best bagmod ever :( |
16:33.16 | Dustwhisper | for cooldowntimers2 is it possible to only have the cooldown announce showing? |
16:33.23 | Dustwhisper | dont want any of the cooldown bars to show at all |
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16:34.32 | dodgizzla | Hm, Yata does not have an official thread :( |
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16:37.05 | BankZ | Silly question, I know you can "connect" multiple tabs to the "General" chat tab, but can you do that to other tabs? |
16:37.15 | BankZ | I wanta have multiple sets of tabs |
16:37.23 | Wobin | BankZ: I'm fairly sure you can |
16:37.35 | Wobin | just separate them out and group them how you want |
16:37.56 | BankZ | when I Drag the 2nd tab over, it never seems to "link" |
16:38.50 | Chompers | FISKER_Q |
16:38.53 | Chompers | its HAPPYCAT |
16:39.00 | Chompers | horay! |
16:39.38 | FISKER_Q | yes |
16:39.42 | FISKER_Q | and they're fagging him :( |
16:39.44 | BankZ | do you know what I mean? |
16:40.00 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40386 10PoisonMenu/Core.lua: PoisonMenu: added sort by name or count |
16:41.24 | Punkie` | Man, still reading this KTM thing, it reminds me of the 2 stupid dogs |
16:41.35 | Punkie` | "Ahh, isn't that cute... BUT IT'S WRONG!" |
16:42.40 | BankZ | I would think Prat would have the option, but I dont see anything |
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16:42.48 | Higdur | anyone know the command to save the position of a Bartender3 bar? |
16:42.54 | Wobin | BankZ: Yeah I do, but I'm not currently connected to try and test stuff out |
16:43.01 | Xuerian | FISKER_Q: rofl |
16:43.11 | Xuerian | wow a strategy game though? nub :p |
16:43.26 | BankZ | Wobin: Im pretty sure it doesnt work expect foe the "main" chat window |
16:43.31 | Wobin | alas =( |
16:43.34 | BankZ | unless there is a mod or something |
16:43.57 | FISKER_Q | it is a strategy game Xuerian :P |
16:44.09 | Xuerian | FISKER_Q: No! This. Is. SERIOUS BUSINESS! |
16:44.25 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40387 10Cartographer_Trainers/Cartographer_Trainers.toc: |
16:44.25 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Trainers |
16:44.25 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
16:44.46 | BankZ | Is prat still the best chat mod? |
16:44.57 | Wobin | There's mumble |
16:45.01 | Wobin | and simplechatmods |
16:45.23 | BankZ | do they seem better? |
16:45.47 | Wobin | It's all relative =) |
16:45.51 | Wobin | I've yet to try them all out |
16:45.59 | Punkie` | BankZ you cannot |
16:46.19 | Xuerian | BankZ: Prat is probably the most in-depth featured one |
16:47.25 | BankZ | Punkie: Bummer |
16:47.25 | Xuerian | BankZ: However, I still use a old version of idchat, which suits my needs perfectly |
16:48.11 | Punkie` | Xuerian: Make your own! |
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16:48.23 | Punkie` | I did, was my first little project :D |
16:48.41 | Xuerian | Punkie`: I wrote my own mod, and I'm happy with using mods that do what I need them to otherwise :p |
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16:49.11 | boobies4u | fuck in hell |
16:49.16 | Dustwhisper | ive started on my own mod aswell, it is hell! |
16:49.32 | aibo | hi there |
16:49.43 | BankZ | simplemap is a great addon, but I dont like how it does the "movers" |
16:49.44 | Xuerian | haha. |
16:49.48 | Xuerian | What a welcome, aibo |
16:49.52 | aibo | is there anyone to help me about writing an addon ? |
16:50.21 | BankZ | is there something better to move that stuff? |
16:50.34 | aibo | Xuerian: I want to display the list of all the users currently online on a server ? |
16:50.35 | Xuerian | aibo: Between here, #wowi-lounge, http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html, http://wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API and http://wowwiki.com/Widget_API, you should do fine |
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16:50.48 | Xuerian | aibo: That would be called a census mod |
16:50.59 | aibo | what? |
16:51.10 | aibo | Xuerian: I couldn |
16:51.26 | aibo | Xuerian: I couldn't get you? |
16:51.41 | Xuerian | Who to the what now? 0_o |
16:51.44 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40388 10ThreatToKTM/ (ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc embeds.xml libs/): (log message trimmed) |
16:51.44 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
16:51.44 | CIA-22 | - relaxed activation condition: TTK activates itself when Threat-1.0 does, |
16:51.44 | CIA-22 | - added console commands: /ttk and /threattoktm, |
16:51.44 | CIA-22 | - added a FuBarPlugin with an informative tooltip, |
16:51.46 | CIA-22 | - options to enable/disable, |
16:51.48 | CIA-22 | - options to enable/disable debugging, |
16:51.50 | Wobin | You'd basically have to poll the /who for each possible grouping of type of player for that faction over time |
16:52.13 | boobies4u | i had a bug, i installed bugsack to get the detailed info, i havent seen the error since |
16:52.15 | Wobin | And even then, chances are you'll not be fully accurate |
16:52.17 | boobies4u | suxxx, gief error! |
16:52.27 | aibo | Xuerian: hello |
16:52.43 | Lyfe | i'm still really suprised blizzard hasn't put in a function or something to let you know how many people are currently connected to your realm. |
16:53.11 | Wobin | Well it doesn't really help gameplay, does it? |
16:53.18 | Xuerian | aibo: Hi. 0.o |
16:53.26 | Stephmw | Lyfe: EverQuest did at the beginning, they removed it quickly |
16:53.33 | Punkie` | FISKER_Q: I lolled at your latest KTM comment :P |
16:53.34 | aibo | Xuerian: ok i search on google and there is mod named as census |
16:53.40 | Lyfe | interesting. it get abused? |
16:53.55 | Xuerian | aibo: Has it been updated recently? |
16:54.00 | BankZ | man, I need to find something better than outfitter but I cant |
16:54.12 | Stephmw | Lyfe: not really... I was graphing all the populations on all EQ realms every 10mins |
16:54.16 | durcyn | ClosetGnome. |
16:54.26 | Stephmw | Lyfe: they weren't happy the numbers were being used that way |
16:54.28 | Punkie` | aibo: 2 seconds on google; http://www.warcraftrealms.com/censusplus.php :) |
16:54.29 | BankZ | I cant use closetgnome |
16:54.46 | Xuerian | aibo: Better to use a existing mod for something with theoretical formulas like that |
16:55.10 | Stephmw | Lyfe: primarily I think they didn't want competitors to have accurate gamer numbers |
16:55.11 | BankZ | <PROTECTED> |
16:55.17 | Lyfe | Stephmw: ahh, heh. I'd just like to have a /-command for knowing how many people are on the realm i'm currently on. |
16:56.00 | aibo | Xuerian: I have another issue. I want to get the list of the servers in the USA region |
16:56.15 | aibo | and then crawl each of the server to get the list of the online users |
16:56.21 | Xuerian | o_0 |
16:56.28 | Xuerian | Uh |
16:56.41 | Nickenyfiken | Someone post http://Kenco.youaremyfriend.com/ in the KLK Trheatmeter thread please. |
16:56.47 | Xuerian | You can't do that, that would require action outside of in-world. In-world is the only time addons can affect the game |
16:57.29 | Wobin | rofl |
16:57.32 | Xuerian | Nickenyfiken: bahahaahahahaha |
16:57.33 | Wobin | I lol'd =P |
16:57.34 | aibo | Xuerian: How do you think it will be possible ? |
16:57.47 | aibo | Xuerian: manually login to each server and scan the lists? |
16:57.52 | Xuerian | aibo: Do it A: by hand. B: By a AutoIt script, maybe? Which is probably against tos |
16:58.32 | Xuerian | Have to afk myself at the moment, though |
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16:59.11 | Wobin | aibo: You'd have to log in manually |
17:00.56 | aibo | wobin: I can also store the list the of the users, i find online on a server, on the disk? |
17:00.59 | Mech0z | FISKER_Q that pitbull dont work well :( it makes some healthbar and raid error :/ |
17:01.08 | Mech0z | so taking the chance not to crash with the new version |
17:01.09 | Punkie` | http://isntthatcute.ytmnd.com/ ! woot |
17:01.19 | Wobin | I'd suggest you start off coding a somewhat simpler addon to start with |
17:01.29 | Wobin | a census addon isn't the easiest thing to figure out |
17:01.50 | aibo | wobin:I just want to get the list of the online users |
17:01.59 | FISKER_Q | i haven't gotten any crashes Mech0z |
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17:02.18 | Wobin | And you can only do that through the /who interface |
17:02.33 | Wobin | which stops you from making multiple calls to it at any one time |
17:02.40 | Wobin | You'll have to wait about 5 seconds between each request |
17:02.47 | Wobin | and it'll only return 50 users max at a time |
17:03.17 | Wobin | So you'll have to filter the output by class/location/race/etc and hope there aren't more than 50 of each online |
17:03.27 | Wobin | and you'll have to do this for every realm |
17:03.49 | vrak | you can filter with letters too |
17:03.49 | Wobin | True |
17:03.53 | Wobin | But that's a nightmare =P |
17:04.02 | vrak | but in any case, checking a whole realm takes an eternity |
17:04.08 | aibo | robin: and if i request again after 5s will it return unique list? |
17:04.15 | Wobin | not necessarily |
17:04.24 | aibo | hmm |
17:04.36 | Wobin | It's unfortunately a limitation of the system that makes it difficult |
17:04.57 | vrak | i'd bet it isn't accidental :p |
17:04.57 | Wobin | which is why I suggest you try for an easier addon to get your feet wet =) |
17:05.08 | Wobin | oh no doubt it's entirely intentional |
17:05.29 | Wobin | You could -possibly- scan the armoury... |
17:05.36 | Wobin | and get names that way |
17:05.41 | Wobin | I don't know how efficient that would be |
17:05.43 | Mech0z | FISKER_Q I had 1 today which is the first in a week |
17:05.48 | Mech0z | so lft 2.1.2 |
17:05.54 | aibo | wobin: actually i am to do this :). |
17:06.16 | Wobin | I'm not sure how you'd get a namelist though |
17:06.47 | Wobin | Cause the armoury's ajax is horrible =( |
17:07.01 | Punkie` | Can someone give me a few pointers on how to get this working please? |
17:07.06 | Somani | Is an Omen-dev here? ;) |
17:07.28 | Punkie` | I have a slash input and I input 4 numbers... I want to make sure that it's only 4 numbers that are put in |
17:07.29 | Punkie` | so I have |
17:07.32 | Punkie` | validate = function(...) for i = 1,4, select("#", ...) do if type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" then return true end end end, |
17:07.38 | aibo | wobin: well! it mean i have two options one->/who two->armoury |
17:07.53 | Punkie` | but it always says that the input is invalid :(# |
17:07.59 | Wobin | I would stick to the armoury |
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17:08.04 | vrak | doesn't the armoury return nearly pure xml with some javascript/styling slapped on top? |
17:08.05 | Wobin | You don't have to log into every server that way |
17:08.14 | Funkeh` | hi al |
17:09.01 | Wobin | Punkie`: have it print out what type it's getting |
17:09.03 | FISKER_Q | vrak if your browser supports it yes |
17:09.07 | Wobin | and see what you get |
17:09.12 | Wobin | chances are it's all coming out as strings |
17:09.18 | Punkie` | no, thats fine |
17:09.22 | Punkie` | all I want to do is go |
17:09.29 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
17:09.43 | Punkie` | but if i do that, it will say 'Invalid input!' |
17:09.54 | Punkie` | so I think the function is wrong |
17:10.11 | Gagorian | Punkie`: Shouldn't it be return false? |
17:10.34 | Punkie` | :o |
17:10.35 | Wobin | ^ |
17:10.39 | Wobin | yeah that =) |
17:11.03 | aibo | wobin: my problem is that i am not much familiar with wow |
17:11.16 | Mok | FISKER_Q what do you mean by "if your browser supports it |
17:11.16 | aibo | wobin: I am learning side by side |
17:11.25 | Wobin | if you're using the armoury, you won't need too much actual WoW API knowledge |
17:11.27 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: awake yet ? :D |
17:11.30 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: for i = 4, select("#", ...) |
17:11.31 | Wobin | as it's all separate to the game itself |
17:11.32 | Xuerian | er |
17:11.35 | Xuerian | Punkie`: * |
17:12.06 | Funkeh` | Xuerian: ? |
17:12.08 | Funkeh` | oh |
17:12.08 | Wobin | wouldn't " for i = 1,4, select("#", ...)" go 1...4 |
17:12.09 | Funkeh` | lol |
17:12.13 | Funkeh` | you suck! |
17:12.17 | Wobin | ? |
17:12.17 | Xuerian | :P |
17:12.20 | Xuerian | your own fault |
17:12.25 | Xuerian | Similar named bugger |
17:12.26 | Xuerian | :p |
17:12.30 | Xuerian | Wobin: er |
17:12.35 | Xuerian | Wobin: lol, right |
17:12.37 | Gagorian | Wobin: Not necessarily. Cause then select("#", ...) is the increase |
17:12.45 | Xuerian | for i = 1, select("#", ...) |
17:12.49 | Wobin | yeh, but he's putting in 4 numbers |
17:12.50 | Punkie` | well, i must need a return true somewhere surely |
17:12.54 | Wobin | so it's essentially 1,4,4 |
17:13.08 | Mech0z | is skinner lightweight? |
17:13.11 | Gagorian | Wobin: It just does 1 then stops |
17:13.11 | aibo | wobin:is there anyway to communicate with you other than this forum |
17:13.11 | Xuerian | Punkie`: i was only addressing part of it |
17:13.13 | Wobin | Punkie`: if validate() then |
17:13.14 | Gagorian | Cause it adds 4 |
17:13.20 | Punkie` | because now it says '[1 2 3 4] is not a valid option' |
17:13.20 | Xuerian | Mech0z: It's heavy at startup, but then it doesn't do anything |
17:13.26 | Mech0z | ok |
17:13.38 | Xuerian | Mech0z: Since it literally skins everything, once that's done it has no active role |
17:13.43 | Wobin | aibo: Probably not easily =) I'm about to log off for bed now, as it's 3am |
17:13.46 | aibo | wobin:email address it will be easy for me as I can't use MIRC from office |
17:13.55 | Wobin | try wobster@gmail.com |
17:14.05 | aibo | thank wobin |
17:14.07 | Wobin | I can't really help you with the armoury stuff, as I've never looked into it |
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17:14.15 | Wobin | but someone like Antiarc may be able to help there |
17:14.38 | aibo | wobin: now i got you and i will drag you into this also :D |
17:14.42 | Wobin | hehe |
17:14.47 | Wobin | I have not the time! |
17:15.06 | aibo | but i think you can repond to email ? |
17:15.21 | Punkie` | Gagorian: Do I need to return true somewhere? |
17:15.36 | aibo | wobin: hope you do reply your emails :) |
17:15.38 | Punkie` | Gagorian: Because no matter the input, I always get that whatever I have written is invalid |
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17:15.57 | Wobin | Punkie`: Put in more debugging statements |
17:16.06 | Xuerian | Punkie`: validate = function(...) for i = 1, select("#", ...) do if type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" then return true end end end |
17:16.24 | Xuerian | for structure is for {init}, {end}, {incriment} do |
17:16.48 | Wobin | you also want return false |
17:16.54 | Xuerian | probably :p |
17:17.01 | Punkie` | well this is going a little over my head :( |
17:17.11 | Punkie` | I just want it to only accept 4 numbers on input :P |
17:17.13 | Xuerian | validate = function(...) for i = 1,4, select("#", ...) do return type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" end end |
17:17.22 | Xuerian | bah |
17:17.32 | Wobin | basically if you have for 1,4,2 the i will equal 1, then 3 |
17:17.45 | Lyfe | err, won't that return on just the first value, not based on all 4? |
17:17.50 | Xuerian | validate = function(...) for i = 1, select("#", ...) do if i > 4 return false end return type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" end end |
17:17.57 | Xuerian | bah |
17:17.59 | Xuerian | damnit lyfe |
17:18.01 | Xuerian | stop making sense |
17:18.02 | trh_ | Antiarc: there? |
17:18.04 | Xuerian | IT BURNS |
17:18.05 | Wobin | Lyfe: well you only need to validate one |
17:18.16 | Wobin | or invalidate one, as the case is |
17:18.21 | Xuerian | OK LET'S DO THIS AGAIN |
17:18.24 | Wobin | hehe |
17:18.40 | Lyfe | right, but that means that you cannot return based on the condition of a single one being/not being a number. (sorry xuerian) :) |
17:18.53 | Xuerian | function(...) for i = 1, select("#", ...) do if i > 4 or type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" return false end end return true end |
17:18.58 | Xuerian | there |
17:18.59 | Wobin | yeah, but I think he wants all of them numbers |
17:19.07 | Xuerian | four arguments all numbers |
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17:19.28 | Wobin | and the validation function can't tell you which entry is invalid, as it's a boolean function |
17:19.43 | Xuerian | you can print out which input is wrong, really |
17:20.11 | Wobin | indubitably |
17:20.11 | Lyfe | actually xuerian, if you are >4, doesn't that mean you've checked all 4 numbers and that they are numbers? |
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17:20.26 | Wobin | not if there's a fifth argument |
17:20.27 | Xuerian | .. |
17:20.30 | Xuerian | GRAH |
17:20.31 | Xuerian | >_< |
17:20.33 | Punkie` | thanks Xuerian, you told me where to put the return true in |
17:20.36 | Xuerian | ~stab Lyfe |
17:20.37 | purl | ACTION runs at Lyfe with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
17:20.37 | Punkie` | it goes something like this: |
17:20.39 | Punkie` | validate = function(...) for i = 1,4, select("#", ...) do if type(select(i, ...)) ~= "number" then return false end end return true end, |
17:20.39 | Wobin | hehe |
17:20.46 | Lyfe | ack! |
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17:20.53 | Punkie` | and now it works! |
17:21.06 | Xuerian | Punkie`: That'll just ignore the last arguments, but that's perfectly fine |
17:21.14 | Xuerian | s/last/extraneous/ |
17:21.50 | Punkie` | :( |
17:21.52 | Xuerian | ~resurrect Lyfe |
17:21.52 | purl | ACTION gathers all his magical powers (and some prayin'!) and resurrects Lyfe from the dead. |
17:21.58 | Xuerian | ~hug Lyfe |
17:21.59 | purl | ACTION hugs Lyfe tightly until Lyfe turns slightly blue |
17:22.03 | Xuerian | >.o |
17:22.07 | Lyfe | :) |
17:22.11 | Wobin | pgl wins at the KTM thread posting |
17:22.12 | Punkie` | I only have space in my frame for 4 numbers |
17:22.16 | Xuerian | Wobin: Agreed |
17:22.26 | Lyfe | whew.. least it wasn't green.. |
17:22.27 | Punkie` | sooooooo, if they enter more then they suck |
17:22.37 | Xuerian | :p |
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17:23.04 | Wobin | oh hey |
17:23.06 | Wobin | it's Fin =P |
17:23.14 | Wobin | I wonder if it's our Fin =P |
17:23.36 | Adirelle | does _G *always* reference the global namespace ? |
17:23.44 | Wobin | yus |
17:23.44 | hyperChipmunk | no |
17:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | only if you set it |
17:23.52 | Wobin | ^ |
17:23.59 | RogueShadow | I'm sure its just because i'm not used to the wowace community, but how can I revert pitbull? I normally use wowace updater to stay up to date. So reverting is an afterthought until we started having crashes |
17:24.02 | Xuerian | Isn't it default now? |
17:24.06 | hyperChipmunk | is it? |
17:24.09 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, http://ace.pastey.net/57029 |
17:24.09 | Xuerian | I think it is |
17:24.10 | KarlThePagan | it's a convention... local _G = getenv(0) |
17:24.11 | Xuerian | I know it *wasn't* |
17:24.13 | KarlThePagan | something like that |
17:24.20 | hyperChipmunk | getfenv |
17:24.21 | Wobin | RogueShadow: You'll have to download the file from files.wowace.com/PitBull/ |
17:24.22 | Primer | sigh, blizzard's billing system is foobar, and because of this, I can't play today |
17:24.22 | Xuerian | KarlThePagan: It's default in normal lua, it wasn't in blizz's |
17:24.27 | KarlThePagan | oic |
17:24.31 | RogueShadow | Thanks. |
17:24.42 | Adirelle | so ? have to use KarlThePagan thing ? |
17:24.50 | Xuerian | Adirelle: Try using it :P |
17:24.56 | Xuerian | If it works it references the global namespace |
17:24.57 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle, the correct syntax is local _G = getfenv(0) |
17:25.07 | Xuerian | If you feel like it, local _G = getfenv(0) works fine and wont' bork anything |
17:25.16 | KarlThePagan | it's also better to use local _G instead of a global _G |
17:25.35 | KarlThePagan | it's more efficient for some ways slightly mysterious to me |
17:25.36 | Xuerian | GOSH DARN PEOPLE IF YOU MAKE ANY MORE SENSE I SWEAR I WILL... TYPE IN CAPS AGAIn |
17:25.43 | Wobin | the horror |
17:25.45 | KarlThePagan | puts it on the stack instead of the heap ... something like that |
17:25.47 | Xuerian | s/In/IN/ |
17:26.14 | Lyfe | lovely, xuerian. |
17:26.23 | Xuerian | Lyfe: I thought so too. =D |
17:26.25 | Wobin | Xuerian isn't having a good day so far =) |
17:26.30 | Xuerian | >_< |
17:27.59 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm anyone know much about weapon skill rating? |
17:28.27 | Nickenyfiken | Well i have to decide what to use as my MH, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27533 vs. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28392 |
17:28.33 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r40389 10TickTo/ (TickTo.toc core.lua libs/): TickTo: New structure, cleaned up, has a slash handler! Frame changes width dependant on ClearFont(2). |
17:29.21 | Punkie` | hooray! |
17:30.22 | FISKER_Q | what's TickTo? |
17:30.27 | Punkie` | go try it! |
17:30.45 | FISKER_Q | not a rogue anymore |
17:30.49 | Lyfe | "Rogue Micro-Management made easy!" |
17:30.53 | Punkie` | :D |
17:31.02 | Punkie` | omg, you have no place with my addon! |
17:31.27 | Lyfe | i have a mage & a priest, and a few other < lvl30 toons... no rogues though.. :\ |
17:31.34 | Fin | Nickenyfiken: tried RatingsBuster? |
17:31.40 | Fin | Nickenyfiken: it's awesome |
17:31.55 | Punkie` | well it's only really useful for PvE :) |
17:32.26 | Nickenyfiken | Well yeah, but that does not tell me if undead skill rating is more worth compared to hit rating |
17:32.38 | Lywellyn | Yo yo, everyone. |
17:32.55 | Wobin | Is that you, Rocky? |
17:32.58 | art3mis | xeur sucks! |
17:33.05 | art3mis | ckknight: ping |
17:33.08 | Lywellyn | Nope. |
17:34.36 | KarlThePagan | ok I couldn't not post... |
17:34.38 | aibo | wobin: I opened that site http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/ |
17:34.48 | Fin | Nickenyfiken: oh, I see |
17:35.01 | aibo | wobin:it just provide the search not the listings |
17:35.30 | Wobin | yeah, but you might be able to leverage the info in there to get what you need |
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17:35.41 | Lywellyn | Still going rounds with Kenco? |
17:36.18 | trh_ | most gave up... it's pointless |
17:36.23 | aibo | wobin:no i don't think so |
17:36.42 | trh_ | like discussing with a emo that life is good.. or sth. ;) |
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17:36.55 | Wobin | hehe |
17:37.13 | aibo | wobin: because doing that you are limited to the results |
17:37.19 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, ping |
17:37.33 | aibo | wobin:which might or might not even close to the users on that server |
17:37.39 | Wobin | aibo: true |
17:37.51 | Wobin | I can't think of any other way to do it that isn't long and painful though =) |
17:38.09 | dodgizzla | I don't get how ClassTimer AllInOne works.. I set it both options to player and still I have 4 different anchors for the bars instead one |
17:38.10 | aibo | wobin: just let me know if that is possible or not |
17:38.35 | aibo | wobin: i mean getting the accurate user list |
17:38.35 | Wobin | aibo: I can't think of a way to be entirely accurate, but others may have some idea |
17:38.44 | dodgizzla | Anyone knows how to set ClassTimer up, so that all timers show up under the same anchor? |
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17:38.59 | Punkie` | allinone |
17:39.39 | dodgizzla | Punkie`: Yeah, as I said.. I'm too stupid :D I set it to player and owner to player |
17:39.40 | aibo | wobin: can you please refer me to someone who can provide some info on that |
17:39.52 | dodgizzla | still I get an anchor for focus, target, player and sticky |
17:39.59 | Wobin | aibo: I don't know. Try looking in wowi-lounge for more people |
17:40.15 | Punkie` | dodgizzla: I just ticked allinone or something, then set the anchor to player |
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17:41.27 | aibo | wobin: Thanks |
17:41.36 | Wobin | np |
17:41.41 | aibo | wobin: i am on #wowlounge and you are also there :) |
17:42.04 | aibo | wobin: no one is responding |
17:42.07 | Wobin | Give it time |
17:42.15 | dodgizzla | Punkie`: Hm, strange. Which revision are you using? And what do you have the owner set to? :D |
17:42.22 | Wobin | and ask again after some time of no response |
17:42.30 | Wobin | people are often not online at the time |
17:42.34 | Fin | aibo: have you had a look at Census+'s code? |
17:43.45 | Punkie` | dodgizzla: latest, and 'AllinOne -> Tick all' 'AllinOne Owner -> Player' |
17:43.52 | Fin | tch, complain about nobody responding then ignore me why doncha |
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17:44.19 | Lywellyn | Man, even Kenco's FAQ and Guide are freaking condescending. |
17:44.27 | dodgizzla | Punkie`: Aaah, I need to tick all.. silly me. |
17:44.44 | Lyfe | the man wrote a faq & guide? heh |
17:44.53 | Punkie` | :) |
17:45.05 | Lywellyn | the "Description" section of his mod on Curse. |
17:45.09 | Lywellyn | Holy hell. |
17:45.12 | Lyfe | ahh |
17:45.56 | Gandharva | Adirelle: Nice changes. Seems to work now. |
17:46.01 | Gandharva | Thank you! |
17:46.07 | Wobin | Who shouldn't be reading this guide? |
17:46.07 | Wobin | a) People whose KTM is working fine. |
17:46.07 | Wobin | b) Illiterate people. |
17:46.08 | Wobin | c) People who have never heard of KTM. |
17:46.08 | Wobin | d) People i don't like. |
17:46.31 | Punkie` | Look at Question 1, sigh |
17:46.52 | Lywellyn | Wobin: Look at the bottom of his "Last Resort" section, too |
17:47.15 | Lywellyn | Failing that, it's most likely that you haven't read the instructions properly, in which case i can recommend one or more of the following: |
17:47.15 | Lywellyn | a) Beating your head against a wall. It needs it. |
17:47.15 | Lywellyn | b) Going back to Freecell. You're not ready for the complexities of WoW it seems. |
17:47.25 | Lywellyn | What a dick. |
17:47.44 | Lyfe | well, he is trying to be funny... i'll give him benefit of the doubt on a poor attempt. |
17:47.47 | Wobin | oh man |
17:47.50 | Wobin | he's an aussie |
17:47.54 | Lyfe | at least on "question 1" |
17:47.57 | Wobin | I apologise for him |
17:48.04 | Wobin | on behalf of all australians |
17:48.15 | Lyfe | no need, we know where all australians came from. :) |
17:49.01 | Wobin | yeah... here =P |
17:49.02 | Punkie` | haha |
17:49.15 | Lyfe | yeap, i give him benefit of the doubt on the FAQ, that he is actually trying to be humorous. |
17:49.20 | Keias | lol Lyfe |
17:49.27 | Punkie` | He's 53 apparently o.O |
17:49.34 | hyperChipmunk | i would, too, if i hadn't read his posts |
17:49.36 | Lyfe | that explains a lot about his humor. |
17:49.42 | Punkie` | indeed |
17:49.53 | hyperChipmunk | but having read them, I know he actually means it O_o |
17:49.58 | Lywellyn | Test: Lywellyn |
17:50.08 | hyperChipmunk | use ~echo |
17:50.11 | Lywellyn | er, someone else type my name. Trying out highlighting in mIRC |
17:50.16 | Lywellyn | ~echo |
17:50.17 | purl | echo is, like, an issue which can be best fixed using this link: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current/docs-html/x1695.html#AEN1718, or fixed with fxotune: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fxotune, or best fixed by troubleshooting your pci bus: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PCI+bus+Troubleshooting, or of ... |
17:50.19 | Gagorian | Lywellyn |
17:50.19 | Wobin | Lywellyn: |
17:50.25 | Lywellyn | ahahahahaha. |
17:50.29 | hyperChipmunk | you have to give him something to echo, n00b |
17:50.33 | Lywellyn | okay, so it doesn't fire on my own messages. Cool. |
17:50.33 | hyperChipmunk | ~echo foo |
17:50.34 | purl | foo |
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17:50.45 | Lywellyn | Hey, I made him say something. n00b. |
17:50.45 | Wobin | ~echo ~echo |
17:50.46 | purl | ~echo |
17:50.46 | hyperChipmunk | ~echo Lywellyn is a dork |
17:50.47 | purl | Lywellyn is a dork |
17:50.59 | Lywellyn | ~kill hyperChipmunk |
17:51.00 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged tachyon gun at hyperChipmunk |
17:51.00 | hyperChipmunk | purl sez it, so it must be true |
17:51.07 | Lywellyn | Exactly. |
17:51.11 | cibs | excuse me, if I want to add some translations in somebody's addons for i18n |
17:51.27 | cibs | should i contact to the original author? |
17:51.30 | Wobin | yep |
17:51.57 | cibs | by email? or any other methods? |
17:52.09 | Wobin | however which way you can contact them =) |
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17:52.56 | cibs | I want to find Athou so that I come here, but he didn't respose~ |
17:52.57 | cibs | so sad~ |
17:53.15 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle: KKT? |
17:53.20 | hyperChipmunk | anyone else have problems with detached tablets becoming unresponsive? |
17:53.42 | Nickenyfiken | hyperChipmunk: there is a thread about it |
17:53.55 | Nickenyfiken | I'm not sure if any Tablet dev is aware really |
17:54.01 | cibs | Wobin: thx a lot for your reply~ |
17:54.05 | Wobin | np |
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17:54.06 | Nickenyfiken | My GF had that problem |
17:54.20 | Wobin | cibs: If they have a thread on a forum, you might want to try there |
17:54.27 | Wobin | or if the addon has an email address in it |
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17:54.51 | cibs | Wobin: roger that, I'll try it |
17:54.55 | Lywellyn | Detached tablets? That have anything to do with the tooltips on FuBar plugins like I've read? |
17:55.12 | hyperChipmunk | that's them |
17:55.14 | Wobin | the tooltips on fubar plugins are tablets |
17:55.24 | Nickenyfiken | Lywellyn: a FuBar tooptip is a Tablet |
17:55.24 | hyperChipmunk | (usually) |
17:55.30 | Lywellyn | Yeah, that'd be me. Happens all the damn time. Doesn't require them to be detached, either. |
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17:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | any workaround besides /rl? |
17:55.49 | Nickenyfiken | No it happens when they are not detached thats true |
17:55.50 | Lywellyn | Not that I'm aware of |
17:56.13 | Nickenyfiken | Someone posted a fix i think |
17:56.13 | hyperChipmunk | time to lynch ckknight |
17:56.18 | Lywellyn | That's what I meant, sorry. I don't detach my tooltips and I still can't click on them. |
17:56.28 | Dustwhisper | can you get arkinventory to do vertical bags instead? |
17:56.33 | Lywellyn | Sometimes it's just the first few lines of the tablet I can't click, other times it's the entire thing. |
17:56.35 | hyperChipmunk | well, i should have said clickable tablets; not necessarily detached |
17:56.41 | hyperChipmunk | Lywellyn: /nod |
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17:57.06 | Nickenyfiken | Seems to be a strata thing where the wrong frame is ontop of another |
17:57.14 | Lywellyn | ckknight needs to fix me my AceAddon-2.0 problem I showed him yesterday too. Though I should thank him for showing me BugSack, I do enjoy that one much better than Swatter. |
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17:57.48 | Dustwhisper | bugsack made my mod work cause i finally found out how i was fucking up =D |
17:58.01 | Fin | o/~ Bug sack bay-bee! Bug Sack baby! ~/o |
18:01.08 | Wobin | Fin: A little ol' place where, we can get together..... bug sack baaaybe.... |
18:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | where's this Tablet thread? i r a forum n00b |
18:01.59 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, i think i know why I'm getting the error |
18:02.22 | Nickenyfiken | hyperChipmunk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6506.0 |
18:02.23 | Lywellyn | hyperChipmunk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6506.0 |
18:02.24 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm |
18:02.27 | hyperChipmunk | thanks |
18:02.28 | Lywellyn | Damnit! |
18:02.32 | Fin | o/~ The Bug Sack is a little old mod ~/o |
18:02.41 | Fin | o/~ where we can get catch those errors ~/o |
18:02.53 | FISKER_Q | oh god please die Fin :( |
18:02.55 | bigzero | bigzero, OnEnable is not getting called when you open the mail frame nor when i enable the mod in fubar |
18:03.00 | Dustwhisper | can you get arkinventory to do vertical bags instead? How? |
18:03.03 | Fin | o/~ Bug sack bay-bee! Bug Sack baby! ~/o |
18:03.10 | Fin | o/~ Bug sack, that's where it's at! ~/o |
18:03.16 | Fin | FISKER_Q: it's on my todo list |
18:03.31 | FISKER_Q | nice |
18:03.50 | Lywellyn | Strange |
18:04.01 | Lywellyn | Looking at my todo list, it's on there too....but *I* didn't put it there... |
18:04.04 | Fin | I have, actually, (badly) rewritten the entire lyrics for Love Shack: http://fin.instinct.org/bits/bugsackbaby.txt |
18:04.37 | Fin | I am secretly proud but slightly horrified with myself at the same time |
18:05.24 | Fin | actually I'm still trying to find someone to sing it for me, two people have agreed but I never seem to catch up with them |
18:06.06 | hyperChipmunk | has anyone tried that Tablet hack and had problems? |
18:06.49 | hyperChipmunk | Kenco vs. http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm |
18:06.53 | hyperChipmunk | who makes more sense? |
18:07.26 | Mech0z | Can omen check how much threat each tank have on each mob in the hyrdross fight when they have the same name? |
18:08.01 | Trancer | Does anyone know if it's possible to get bigger 'images' out of wowmodelviewer than your current resolution of your screen? |
18:08.11 | Trancer | If you zoom in, you loose half of the model |
18:09.02 | Dustwhisper | Can anyone tell me how to get arkInventory to show the bagslots vertically instead of horisontaly (verticaly is grayed out in options) |
18:10.02 | Nickenyfiken | hyperChipmunk: flatearth |
18:10.35 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i'm leaning towards them too |
18:10.36 | Dustwhisper | Any addon that will restock reagents automaticly when trading a reagentvendor? |
18:11.01 | hyperChipmunk | the 'Why a Flat Earth?' offers more compelling logic |
18:11.06 | Nickenyfiken | Dustwhisper: freerefills |
18:11.28 | FISKER_Q | oh snap :( |
18:11.38 | FISKER_Q | Fineous Darkvire can heal |
18:14.17 | FISKER_Q | man |
18:14.25 | FISKER_Q | 15 minutes later ;D |
18:16.44 | hyperChipmunk | rofl @ the current events page |
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18:23.51 | Trancer | Kalman|: no, Omen does not provide a removal from the minimap area if one does not run FuBar |
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18:24.11 | Kalman| | Trancer: I didn't think it did, I think we misunderstood each other. |
18:24.12 | Nerrisa | Anyone have a problem with Pitbull where party frame 3d portraits flicker? |
18:24.18 | Trancer | Kalman|: ah |
18:24.28 | Trancer | might very well be the case |
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18:24.53 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: well.. at least they they explain WHY the earth is flat =) |
18:25.05 | Gandharva | Adirelle: An option to hide the FuBar plugin would be nice. |
18:25.09 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: kenco doesnt really explain why ktm doesn't has performance issues |
18:25.12 | Trancer | Kalman|: let's wait for antiarc and request the feature then ;-) |
18:25.42 | Kalman| | Trancer: All you, I use fubar. ;) |
18:26.00 | FISKER_Q | <-n00b ;( |
18:26.06 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: Flat Earth Society, hands down. They don't resort to ad hominem or strawman arguments to prove their points. ;) |
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18:27.17 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: check the Links page |
18:27.26 | trh_ | it'd be awesome if blizzard would kick .lua and implement LOLCODE instead ;) |
18:27.36 | trh_ | http://www.lolcode.com/about |
18:27.50 | trh_ | finally a language EVERY wow user understands ;) |
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18:30.41 | Hjalte | Does Bigwigs hide Boss emotes by default? |
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18:31.11 | Funkeh` | RAID_BOSS_EMOTE yes |
18:31.17 | Nerrisa | Is the author of Pitbull around? :) |
18:32.29 | Hjalte | Nerrisa, the author of Pitbull is ckknight. |
18:33.02 | ulic | also of note, PitBull get's update alot, make sure you've got the latest :) |
18:33.16 | Trancer | latest advises you to run 39408 actually |
18:33.28 | ulic | hehe |
18:33.53 | Chompers | gruul = pain :< |
18:34.55 | Lywellyn | I tried PitBull first, but the massive configuration options, while great in practice, somehow confused the hell outta me :3 That's why I switched to agUnitFrames in the first place... |
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18:35.07 | Lywellyn | Now I don't want to switch simply because I don't want to set up a Unit Frame mod all over again ;_; |
18:35.24 | Trancer | pitubll is very straight forward once you know how agUF works |
18:35.57 | Lywellyn | There WAS one thing about Pitbull I DID like that agUF is totally lacking....the frame placeholders that you can activate |
18:36.05 | Lywellyn | so you can place the frames when you're not in a party/raid/etc |
18:36.18 | Nerrisa | Pitbull is great...jst experienceing a bug |
18:36.25 | Chompers | you dont like pitbull because its got too many options ? |
18:36.32 | Nerrisa | The party 3D portrails flicker really bad |
18:36.46 | Nerrisa | I have to set them to 2d for them to not casue epilepsy. |
18:36.51 | Lywellyn | Chompers: No no. I hail it because it has so many options. Flexibility is good. They just confused me at the time. |
18:36.56 | Mech0z | is it like 10 times easier making MT's with Ora than in the raidtap? |
18:37.00 | ulic | Lywellyn: ckknight has actually changed the menu structure some, I think it's a little easier to get around in now, not so overwhelming. |
18:37.01 | Mech0z | if anyone knows |
18:37.11 | Lywellyn | Hmm....maybe I'll try it out again. |
18:37.39 | Lywellyn | And, I like the 3D portraits....but the Undead one sucks. He always moves his head to the upper right, cutting his face off totally. |
18:38.01 | Lywellyn | There's nothing anyone can do about it though, it's the nature of the movement of the Undead Male model's head. |
18:38.06 | Adirelle | Gandharva: apart from this, does it work ? |
18:38.43 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40390 10DrDamage/BuffScanning.lua: |
18:38.43 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
18:38.43 | CIA-22 | - Added Infinity Blade debuff (+5% magical dmg per application ) |
18:40.08 | Lywellyn | Oh here's a question |
18:40.17 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: is there a way to make an autosend list that is global? |
18:40.27 | kenlyric | in bulkmail |
18:40.41 | Lywellyn | I finally found out what the part after the decimal in an addons revision means. Cool. So is there a way to make WAU ignore addons that only have updated that part of the revision? |
18:40.59 | kenlyric | Lywellyn: run standalone. |
18:41.05 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: global? o_0 how would that even work? |
18:41.18 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: it would load that autosend list on every toon. |
18:41.27 | Gandharva | Adirelle: yes it does. Thanks! |
18:41.34 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: just use the default profile, which every toon uses? |
18:41.47 | kenlyric | right, but the autosend lists are still char specific. |
18:41.48 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: ? |
18:41.52 | bigzero | how do you specify that an addon is LoD? |
18:41.53 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40391 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
18:41.53 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
18:41.53 | CIA-22 | - added option to hide FuBar plugin |
18:41.59 | hyperChipmunk | realm specific |
18:42.06 | hyperChipmunk | the global exclude is char specific |
18:42.09 | kenlyric | not on whaat I just tested. |
18:42.21 | hyperChipmunk | well then you suck |
18:42.22 | Lywellyn | kenlyric: Standalone? |
18:42.30 | vhaarr | Hjalte: no, it does not |
18:42.46 | vhaarr | Hjalte: it hides it if it has a bossmodule active for the boss that emotes |
18:42.58 | Hjalte | vhaar, okay, thanks. |
18:43.00 | vhaarr | Hjalte: and it only hides the one that prints to the middle of the screen, not the chat one |
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18:43.08 | kenlyric | let me just check on the toon I created the list on. |
18:43.10 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
18:43.10 | trh_ | someone should include http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/336964653_01a3dee5b2_o.jpg?v=0 in the kenco thread ;) |
18:43.10 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
18:43.11 | Hjalte | Yeah, that's fine. |
18:43.45 | Lywellyn | trh_: Should include the cat one: I R SERIOUS CAT. THIS R SERIOUS THREAD. |
18:43.55 | trh_ | Lywellyn: lol |
18:44.57 | kenlyric | oh |
18:45.02 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, I am so lost...OnEnable never gets called for me for BM2...using latest version |
18:45.02 | kenlyric | looks like it didn't save my list at all. |
18:45.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i had that happen to me too |
18:45.41 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r40392 10BigWigs/Outland/Kazzak.lua: BigWigs: Fixed zhTW for Kazzak |
18:45.41 | hyperChipmunk | not sure why |
18:45.52 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: using any loadmanagers? |
18:46.15 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: back up your SVs and try it again |
18:46.21 | hyperChipmunk | from a clean SV |
18:46.24 | hyperChipmunk | i need some info on that |
18:46.26 | kenlyric | BAH! |
18:46.30 | kenlyric | ok, trying |
18:46.57 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, hmmm, nope |
18:47.06 | BankZ | Is there an addon that tracks guild changes? |
18:47.12 | BankZ | like who left, who joined? |
18:47.19 | Kaydeethree | gah. installing a trailer hitch and changing a battery in 32c heat != fun |
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18:49.32 | Kaydeethree | use the right window, damn it |
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18:49.54 | QuantumDelta | hmm kaydee Oo where'd i know that name from |
18:50.45 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40393 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: ThreatToKTM: set up a realistic tooltip refresh rate. |
18:51.01 | FISKER_Q | reported for excessive pointless capitilized letters QuantumDelta |
18:51.05 | harl|WoW | is the author of nQuestLog currently present ? |
18:51.06 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, so you're saying I should use a loadmanager? |
18:51.14 | dodgizzla | Is it possible to show a timer for certain buffs/debuffs in ClassTimers to appear under Sticky as well as, say, focus? |
18:51.25 | QuantumDelta | Excessive?! |
18:51.28 | FISKER_Q | nope harl|WoW :I |
18:51.39 | harl|WoW | k |
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18:53.58 | ckknight | hey all |
18:54.00 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle: Is it still called KKT instead of TTK in the FuBar panel? :-) |
18:54.02 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
18:54.04 | Nickenyfiken | hey ckknight |
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18:54.48 | ckknight | Nerrisa: how do I reproduce said 3d portrait flickering? |
18:54.55 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: i think hyperChipmunk want you to fix Tablet :-P |
18:55.21 | ckknight | art3mis: pong |
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18:55.39 | Nerrisa | ckknight |
18:55.53 | Nerrisa | Is there a way to fix flickering 3d party portraits? |
18:55.55 | Trancer | ckknight: maybe not relevant, but if one loaded PitBull with Healthbar and Banzai etc in subfolders and also loads PitBull_HealthBar and PitBull_Banzai as seperate addons, Healthbar registers twice and errors, this also causes Banzai to bug on HealthBar.db requests |
18:56.14 | Lywellyn | Alright, off to my parents for Father's Day. Have a good one all! |
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18:56.37 | ckknight | Trancer: works for me |
18:56.48 | ckknight | Nerrisa: I need to know how to reproduce it first. |
18:56.55 | boobies4u | ckknight! yoyo |
18:57.02 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: deleting the SV seems to now be saving correctly. I'll keep an eye on it. |
18:57.07 | Trancer | hmm, might very well be because I was using two different versions, one most recent from wowaceupdater and 39408 with /console reloadui |
18:57.16 | Matrix110 | ckk could you allow us to set the debuffs under the buffs if you have Growth direction up? |
18:57.22 | Matrix110 | i know iam annoying:P |
18:57.24 | boobies4u | finaly got my offhand from the badge of justices |
18:57.25 | ckknight | I dunno |
18:57.29 | boobies4u | been trough some traumatic groups |
18:57.40 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r40394 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: Apparently I didn't commit the one with some boss code before, here it is now. |
18:57.48 | ckknight | Matrix110: I'll look into buff positioning later |
18:57.53 | Matrix110 | thanks |
18:58.43 | ulic | ckknight: some one said something about we shouldn't be running the latest version of PitBull? |
18:59.03 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: can you pastey your old sv? |
18:59.24 | ckknight | ulic: I did |
18:59.29 | ckknight | ulic: I also changed the topic |
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18:59.46 | ulic | ah ha |
19:00.20 | art3mis | meh |
19:00.28 | Nerrisa | ckknight: I happens when I have 3d portraits on and join/create a party after zoneing. |
19:00.49 | art3mis | i just can't get into wow anymore |
19:00.49 | Nerrisa | Also many times the portrait likes to shift to full body |
19:00.49 | ulic | yea, I did get some crashes after I upgraded, but I wasn't sure it was PitBull, anything I can try to do to help track down the problem? |
19:01.07 | ckknight | Nerrisa: okay, I'll check it out |
19:01.16 | art3mis | it's lost its fun, that stupid 2.1 update added fuck all for entertainment value to solo players |
19:01.16 | ckknight | ulic: wait until WoW 2.1.2 |
19:01.22 | ulic | hehe, ok |
19:01.42 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: I had the rules for the horde character in quite a while ago. http://ace.pastey.net/57034 |
19:01.45 | dodgizzla | Can somebody please add "Shadow Vulnerability" to the priests' buffs in PitBull? |
19:01.53 | winkiller | ckknight: anything I could try to log for the flickering ToT I had? (if you remember) |
19:01.58 | kenlyric | those saved and worked just fine, but hadn't updated them recently. |
19:02.09 | ckknight | winkiller: no, not really |
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19:02.31 | Punkie` | ckknight: are you able to fix a threat-1.0 bug if i give you an error? :) |
19:02.43 | ckknight | everyone needs to stop bothering me. |
19:02.59 | ckknight | I'm not your damn personal servant |
19:03.00 | ckknight | gah |
19:03.01 | ulic | see what happens when you make something good :) |
19:03.11 | Kaydeethree | ckk; can you make me a sandwich? |
19:03.40 | Punkie` | need sandwich! |
19:05.11 | Bovio | is it ok to ask questions about functionality of specific mods in here? or is that frowned upon? |
19:05.20 | Bovio | <-- new to the channel |
19:05.27 | Fin | dodgizzla: Shadow Vulnerability is a debuff |
19:05.36 | dodgizzla | Fin: I meant debuff, sorry |
19:05.39 | art3mis | bovio you can ask provided you can not get pissy if youre flatly told "fuck off" ;) |
19:05.49 | Bovio | rofl, deal |
19:05.54 | art3mis | err do not |
19:06.01 | dodgizzla | I just want it to be sorted first, where SW:P, VE and VT are :D |
19:06.18 | art3mis | hrm so whats a fun game for me to play |
19:06.25 | art3mis | rpg related and pc based |
19:06.27 | Bovio | so in that case.. can anyone tell me if there's a way in pitbull to have 2 of the same frame? (like 2 player frames that are shown differently?) |
19:06.54 | hyperChipmunk | oho, that's a good question |
19:06.55 | art3mis | bovio set the focus to yourself, i suppose and mod the focus frame? |
19:07.10 | hyperChipmunk | but yea, only way I can see to do it is focus yourself |
19:07.10 | Fin | art3mis: Oblivion? |
19:07.21 | Bovio | but i use focus for.. my focus >_< |
19:07.26 | art3mis | fin: oh right i fergot about that game |
19:07.38 | hyperChipmunk | I'm trying to think of something roundabout that would come to be the same, but I can't |
19:07.41 | art3mis | bovio: short answer would be don't think so ;P |
19:07.51 | Kemayo | ckknight: Can you get me a drink? |
19:07.52 | hyperChipmunk | unless you're in a raid group |
19:07.55 | art3mis | you can always just double the unitframes though |
19:08.07 | Bovio | double the unitframes? |
19:08.10 | Dustwhisper | what's the /focus modifier:ctrl sheep focus again macro |
19:08.11 | art3mis | ie. load pitbull and perl(player only) |
19:08.14 | abyssichate | When I am recording something with Transcriptor, do I need to save the .lua file out of the directory, clear logs, start recording agian for every attempt or does it automatically append new stuff to the old recorded events? |
19:08.31 | art3mis | it would be 2 diff views but i dont think without modding the focus you can do it within a single |
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19:08.40 | hyperChipmunk | hehe, change the directory, toc, and savedvar name |
19:08.41 | Bovio | oh, yeah, currently i am using nurfed for my player+target frames, and pitbull to have another player frame that goes with my party frames |
19:08.49 | ckknight | Bovio: there's no current way, mostly because I think it's pointless |
19:08.49 | art3mis | hyperChipmunk: hah yeah or that |
19:08.59 | ckknight | Bovio: oh, you just set "Show player with party" |
19:09.00 | ckknight | tada, done. |
19:09.08 | ckknight | two players. |
19:09.09 | ckknight | bam |
19:09.21 | art3mis | ckknight: custom frame! |
19:09.26 | Bovio | ^ |
19:09.28 | Bovio | :-p |
19:09.40 | Bovio | but there's an option for that? i guess i was oblivous and didn't see it :( |
19:09.44 | art3mis | yo do now! DI DI MAU! |
19:09.46 | ckknight | under party |
19:10.27 | Bovio | loggin on to check wow.. you may have just saved my life ckk :-p |
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19:11.50 | ckknight | we'll get through this together, Timmy |
19:11.51 | art3mis | hrm what other games aside from NWN2 and Oblivion? |
19:11.53 | ckknight | you can fight the cancer |
19:12.21 | art3mis | no you can't, cancer has like laser beam eyez and nucular missiles |
19:12.24 | Chompers | 3 lair brutes hurt |
19:12.40 | Chompers | curse you gruuls lair, its not meant to be this hard |
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19:13.18 | Kaydeethree | ...every single week. we always get three brutes |
19:13.24 | Kaydeethree | beyond annoying |
19:13.31 | art3mis | better than 3 healers |
19:13.33 | Chompers | wipe 2 on them :/ |
19:13.35 | ckknight | art3mis: you misspelled nukular |
19:13.36 | Awaa | Indeed :D |
19:13.46 | art3mis | ckknight: oops |
19:14.49 | Awaa | Annying enough when theres 2 healers there. But i guess 3 brute can be an problem if you dont have 2 ppl that can pick them up. |
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19:16.42 | art3mis | must find new game to entertain me |
19:16.54 | ckknight | art3mis: I'm fond of Civ IV |
19:17.35 | Bovio | ckknight: when you do include "show player in party".. that doesn't do anything about showing player-target in party-targets does it? :( |
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19:18.06 | ckknight | Bovio: if you show party targets, it will show the player-in-party's target |
19:18.08 | ckknight | pets too |
19:19.02 | vrak | are there any addons for manually typing itemlinks? |
19:19.18 | ckknight | yes. |
19:19.22 | Fin | Ludwig |
19:19.23 | Kaydeethree | as in typing [Troll Tears] and getting the link? |
19:19.23 | ckknight | KC_Items |
19:19.31 | Daemona | can any1 lend me a hand with BigWigs_Debugger? how do i properly set the debugoutput frame? |
19:19.56 | vrak | mostly as in fishing the item id outta thott or wowhead or whatever and creating the link myself |
19:19.57 | Bovio | ckknight: thanks a bunch for your time! exactly what i wanted |
19:21.21 | Dustwhisper | someone hook me up with the focus sheep macro with ctrl as modifier key on cast |
19:21.23 | Dustwhisper | to set focus |
19:22.23 | Fin | also I'd like a six foot blonde and a large doner kebab |
19:22.24 | Fin | ta |
19:22.28 | vrak | ah, windows, how i love thee and thine fucking retarded paging function |
19:22.37 | kenlyric | ug, I can't find a PT set for cooking recipe mats. |
19:22.56 | kenlyric | should Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession have subheadings. |
19:23.37 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r40395 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Bloodlust for horde |
19:27.10 | kenlyric | vrak, I especially like when it fragments the paging file. |
19:27.18 | kenlyric | that's *especially helpful* |
19:27.46 | Daemona | thats why i got used to setting up a 4gb partition on any new windows installation |
19:27.53 | Daemona | kinda like the linux swap partition ;) |
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19:28.35 | vrak | i kinda like swapping out 500MB+ chunks when i'm using around half of my 2GB |
19:29.05 | vrak | it also seems especially fond of swapping out games |
19:29.32 | Fin | ah, y'see, if it didn't do that, it wouldn't be prepared for when it'll need that space |
19:29.36 | Fin | it's just thinking ahead |
19:29.42 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40396 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
19:29.42 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
19:29.42 | CIA-22 | KKT to TTK kthxbye! |
19:29.57 | Daemona | ? |
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19:30.06 | hyperChipmunk | typo, i assume |
19:30.49 | Trancer | any omen developers about? |
19:30.57 | vrak | it's a bit too fond of that |
19:30.59 | vrak | tbh |
19:33.03 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: yes, Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession should have sub-categories. |
19:35.09 | ckknight | omg |
19:35.13 | ckknight | found a big flaw in PitBull |
19:35.22 | ckknight | that was probably causing tremendous lag in raids |
19:35.31 | hyperChipmunk | retarded author? |
19:35.56 | Dustwhisper | /focus [modifier:control] target |
19:35.56 | Dustwhisper | /cast [target=focus,exists] Polymorph |
19:36.05 | Dustwhisper | why does that not seem to work with ctrl+keybinding for that button |
19:36.13 | Dustwhisper | the icon shows its being pressed but nothing happens |
19:36.42 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: hmmm. it doesn't |
19:36.43 | Dustwhisper | somehow i screwed up all my macros on a reset =D |
19:36.52 | BankZ | I wish SWS would disable when im not grouped |
19:36.55 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: :-P |
19:37.05 | abyssichate | Is anyone else getting wrong class coloured bars in Omen while in combat? |
19:37.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40397 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix a bug where some cluster childframes were mistakenly labelled as wacky frames. |
19:37.12 | ckknight | Nerrisa: that fixes your bug |
19:37.17 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: I had the same issue in BM, where certain PT3 sets wouldn't show their subcategories. NOt sure how to fix it though. :\ |
19:37.17 | Funkeh` | ckknight: the timer on death, afk etc seems a little fast |
19:37.36 | Funkeh` | ckknight: it will go ok then skip 3 digits really quick rnadomly |
19:37.43 | Funkeh` | randomly* |
19:37.49 | ckknight | Funkeh`: nah, it's just perception, since it updates every 0.5 (or actually every 0.55), you can have it update every tick and then wait |
19:38.03 | Funkeh` | oh |
19:38.08 | ckknight | I _could_ make it update faster, but I frankly don't see it as being worth it. |
19:38.12 | Fin | is it that you clearly don't understand how cpu profiling works, do not know how to benchmark anything, are devoid of intelligence, unworthy of common human respect accorded to most mammals larger than a cat, and like posting transparent fiction regarding other people's work to random places on the internet? |
19:38.14 | Funkeh` | nah |
19:38.19 | ckknight | maybe I should just set it to be time-based... |
19:38.23 | ckknight | probably easier overall. |
19:38.51 | Fin | that seems to be a common mistake addon authors are discovering recently |
19:39.36 | Fin | so! who likes the colour yellow? |
19:39.41 | Fin | I do! |
19:39.47 | Fin | it's the colour of cheese |
19:40.03 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's the colour of cheese. |
19:40.09 | Fin | and cheese as everyone knows is one of the most fantastic things ever |
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19:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | cheese IS fantastic. |
19:40.27 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40398 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: hanler->reg_link.handler |
19:40.56 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: your mum |
19:41.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, she's fantastic too. |
19:42.02 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Kinky |
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19:42.38 | Fin | I thought that was sylv fixing a type "hanler" |
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19:44.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40399 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - for timers, switch to a different time-based counting system. |
19:44.31 | ckknight | Funkeh`: that should fix that issue |
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19:48.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40400 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make AFK timer work for units that aren't in the visible range. |
19:50.05 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Can you please add "Shadow Vulnerability" to Priests' enemy debuffs? |
19:50.11 | ckknight | you do it |
19:50.17 | ckknight | I have bigger issues |
19:50.28 | dodgizzla | Don't have an svn account :\ |
19:50.34 | ckknight | work on that |
19:50.39 | dodgizzla | I see :> |
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19:53.45 | Chompers | no gruul kill this week, always next week i guess |
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19:54.46 | nevcairiel | no instance reset yet, you still have time! |
19:55.16 | Kenichi | hey can anyone tell me what happened to pitbull_estimatedheals addon it seems impossible to get a hold of ><; |
19:55.40 | [dRaCo] | get like 2k flasks and kill him by throwing them at him |
19:55.43 | hyperChipmunk | Kenichi: it's part of pitbull now |
19:55.46 | hyperChipmunk | look in the modules menu |
19:55.47 | [dRaCo] | they work in gruul's lair. |
19:55.48 | Chompers | most people work through the week so we only have the weekend for 25 mans |
19:55.59 | Chompers | everyones flasked up as well :o |
19:56.00 | Kenichi | oh thanks! |
19:56.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh maybe not |
19:56.14 | Kenichi | no? |
19:56.15 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not sure =) |
19:56.19 | hyperChipmunk | I don't see it |
19:56.28 | ckknight | Kenichi: it is |
19:56.28 | Fisker- | so anyone with fileplanet accounts getting ET: Quake Wars? |
19:56.29 | hyperChipmunk | but it's in there |
19:56.33 | Fisker- | next week :o |
19:56.37 | Kenichi | alright thanks guys |
19:56.38 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r40401 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
19:56.38 | CIA-22 | PitBull |
19:56.38 | CIA-22 | - added Shadow Vulnerability to list of Priest enemy debuffs |
19:56.39 | Fisker- | gonna be awesome |
19:56.55 | hyperChipmunk | it's there somewhere |
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19:57.05 | hyperChipmunk | there's an EstimatedHeals subdir in PitBull |
19:57.07 | Chompers | paying to test someones software, are you mad? |
19:57.32 | Kenichi | i should be able to find it i just figured since i hadn't updated it with the most recent version it was just discontinued |
19:57.34 | Fisker- | i'm not paying for it :P |
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19:57.43 | hyperChipmunk | nah, it was folded in |
19:57.51 | hyperChipmunk | but i can't for the life of me find it in the menu |
19:57.56 | hyperChipmunk | maybe not active for hunter |
19:58.13 | Kenichi | <druid |
19:58.14 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
19:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | check your modules =) |
19:58.31 | Kenichi | k |
20:01.38 | dodgizzla | Fin: much <3 :> |
20:03.31 | Kenichi | well the modules say its enabled |
20:04.04 | Kenichi | but i'm still not seeing the 'estimation' graphic of it |
20:06.23 | hyperChipmunk | mebee /rl |
20:06.49 | hyperChipmunk | other than that, i dunno; you'll have to track down someone who authors or uses it |
20:07.10 | hyperChipmunk | namely, that schmo over there |
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20:10.52 | Kenichi | well i think i may have figured out the reason |
20:11.04 | Kenichi | but if i corrected that id run into a bigger problem |
20:11.10 | Kenichi | i.e. unit frames not showing |
20:11.23 | Kenichi | unless something was tweaked in the most previous versions |
20:12.12 | Kenichi | originally what i had done was updated pitbull and i may have retreated back to the older version i was using because nothing would show with the new version |
20:13.02 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r52 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip -- Hopefully all bugs are fixed now. Should be 100% usable. Note that everything except basic formating and the "smooth border" are now removed from TinyTip. They'll all come back as modules in a separate addon. |
20:14.29 | phyber | are we sure that Violation's SWStats spying spys ALL SWStats data? |
20:14.49 | phyber | or is there a bug in SWS where it adds peoples data more than once? |
20:15.01 | phyber | my Violation spying SWS is really out of sync with SWS->SWS. |
20:15.32 | phyber | 80k missing from a mage in the raid in Violation |
20:16.18 | Saroz | can you change the high of the mana bar in aguf? |
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20:21.24 | Matrix110 | phyber is he a Frost Mage? |
20:21.33 | phyber | not sure. |
20:21.45 | Matrix110 | if he is its his(and other Frost mages) pet dmg missing |
20:21.52 | Matrix110 | found out that bug aswell |
20:22.03 | Matrix110 | Hunters got the same prob |
20:22.04 | phyber | ah, interesting. |
20:22.19 | Matrix110 | 1 BM Hunter ranted at me because his 130k pet dmg was missing |
20:23.41 | chutwig | what's the best way to revert back to the older version of pitbull |
20:23.48 | chutwig | since it's telling me about a crashy crash bug |
20:24.23 | Kaydeethree | files.wowace.com/PitBull |
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20:26.04 | phyber | what is the crash bug? I'm in a raid right now and so far nothing happened. |
20:26.12 | phyber | but I don't use the pitbull party/raid frames in raid. |
20:26.13 | Matrix110 | phyber it doesnt happen for all people |
20:26.16 | Matrix110 | some underline cause does it |
20:26.27 | chutwig | just said it'll be fixed in 2.1.2 and didn't elaborate |
20:26.46 | chutwig | and being that the mac version likes to crash of its own accord without outside help |
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20:32.21 | break19 | chutwig: I can make my mac client crash on command... all I gotta do is use uab and try to set it up.. bzzzt, down she goes. |
20:32.32 | chutwig | break19: i just look at it funny and it explodes |
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20:32.54 | break19 | chutwig: i dont quite have *that* problem... but it doesnt like unitactionbars |
20:33.19 | chutwig | mine used to crash every time i logged out on a character |
20:33.45 | break19 | chutwig: mine didnt actually *crash* but I did get the error reporter window, but that hasnt happened since 2.0 |
20:33.51 | chutwig | yeah |
20:33.57 | chutwig | that got fixed in 2.1 for me |
20:34.07 | chutwig | and then they added several other bugs, but i guess that's business as usual |
20:34.09 | break19 | errr yea 2.1 |
20:34.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Oddly, i've almost never had my client crash on my mac. |
20:34.43 | break19 | but using unit action bars addon, causes the whole game to quit to the desktop |
20:34.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Though, It just did today, but that was easily narrowed down to Cartographer_Heatmap |
20:34.53 | break19 | heatmap? |
20:34.57 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
20:35.06 | AKX | Umm, yeah, NightHawkTheSane, I thought it might. |
20:35.09 | break19 | war games now? |
20:35.11 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
20:35.11 | AKX | Creating 50x50 textures... |
20:35.31 | NightHawkTheSane | AKX: well you suck. |
20:35.35 | Hjalte | I need some help; When Lurker does Geyser to our MT, our melee is getting killed because the MT is not there to tank. What can we do? |
20:35.40 | AKX | Love you too, NightHawkTheSane. |
20:35.40 | break19 | "load heat and fire at will" poor will... always gettin shot at. |
20:35.59 | Matrix110 | having another mt who is near when the mt gets Geyser? |
20:36.23 | break19 | who maintains cart_trainers? |
20:36.48 | break19 | its showing an opt-dep of gratuity-2.0, when it should be gratuitylib |
20:37.08 | Hjalte | Matrix110, our OT says he can't build enough rage to be over the rogues in threat |
20:37.12 | Matrix110 | Quote from the 1st Google Hit: "When The Lurker spawns the MT must be in position and grab aggro on him right away. You need to have the Off Tank 2nd on aggro, or when the Lurker does his Whirl and knocks back the MT out of melee range, he will attack the next target on his aggro list." |
20:37.22 | Matrix110 | Then your OT sucks:P |
20:37.25 | Gagorian | bloody deadly blossmod |
20:37.27 | Gagorian | *s |
20:37.39 | Gagorian | a raid member always whispers me LVBM REQBARS at start and end of BG |
20:37.55 | Matrix110 | Report him for Spam |
20:38.30 | dodgizzla | In DogTag, when I use MissingThreat, I sometimes get reaaaally long values, something like "12355.33333333333333333333333333333" which then overlaps with my mana :o I tried Short and VeryShort, but then ":Negate" does not work :\ |
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20:41.27 | Tornhoof | threatlib is missing a format function, i noticed that too |
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20:42.48 | break19 | wondermous.. absofrickinlutely wondermous. |
20:43.08 | break19 | i got mucho problemos |
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20:44.08 | ckknight | dodgizzla: :Round |
20:44.33 | ckknight | dodgizzla: I'll make it rounded to 1 digit, though, automatically |
20:45.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40402 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - remove doublefrees. |
20:45.33 | Chompers | 3 critical wow errors in arena :S |
20:45.41 | Adirelle | does anyone have performance issue with TTK ? |
20:45.44 | break19 | something broke prat :/ |
20:45.47 | Kaydeethree | bah. pitbull 39408's and new omen's threat don't play nicely. |
20:46.02 | break19 | or, prat broke itself.. one or the other. |
20:46.08 | AKX | Okay, so HeatMap does something horribly wrong memory-wise... |
20:47.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40403 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - round Threat to the ones' place. |
20:47.19 | ckknight | Kaydeethree: don't run embedded |
20:47.48 | dodgizzla | ckknight: I see, thanks |
20:48.11 | Peoii | ckknight: Manually unembedding ftl :P |
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20:48.44 | Kaydeethree | meh. I just symlinked pitbull's threat-1.0 to omen's |
20:48.45 | CIA-22 | 03thrae * r40404 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc): TinyTip: TinyTip has been moved to http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/, and will no longer be supported on this repository. |
20:49.16 | Silviu- | ;) |
20:49.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40405 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make Short and VeryShort round to the ones' place. |
20:49.29 | ckknight | Kaydeethree: that works |
20:49.31 | CIA-22 | 03thrae * r40406 10TinyTip/ (10 files): TinyTip: Delete unused files. |
20:49.43 | Silviu- | Dongle inc ? ;) |
20:49.55 | ckknight | Thrae: how come? |
20:50.10 | break19 | uhh, ck? why is pitbull not finding dogtag-1.0? I know its there and enabled..... |
20:50.15 | hyperChipmunk | you can dongle on svn.wowace.com |
20:50.20 | hyperChipmunk | it's not against the rulez |
20:50.22 | ckknight | because you didn't install it properly |
20:50.44 | break19 | lol i never uninstalled it.. and it was workin last night. :) |
20:50.50 | ckknight | yea, non-ace mods are fine on the svn, as long as the "spirit" is kept, basically |
20:51.23 | Thrae | I'm just a bastard that wants to use his own SVN, and can't keep both updated, because I'm also a lazy bastard. |
20:51.25 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i wanted to try a mod without ace just for the practice |
20:51.40 | Silviu- | ~seen Antiarc |
20:52.01 | purl | antiarc <n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 48m 3s ago, saying: 'I need to sleep, but more tomorrow!'. |
20:52.01 | mikma | Thrae: bastard. |
20:52.01 | birde | tinytip is gone from wowace? |
20:52.01 | break19 | [2007/06/17 15:48:20-980-x1]: Prat\Prat.lua:41: attempt to call global 'GetPratUtils' (a nil value) |
20:52.05 | break19 | all *kinds* of errors since I updated.... |
20:52.17 | Silviu- | Thrae is it usable now ? |
20:52.19 | ckknight | someone had suggested that I write a tooltip mod |
20:52.53 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: Fetching external item into 'TinyTipExtras/TipLib-1.0' |
20:52.53 | hyperChipmunk | Authentication realm: <https://thrae-wow.googlecode.com:443> Google Code Subversion Repository |
20:52.56 | hyperChipmunk | Password for 'staharaj': |
20:53.13 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: use just http, not https? |
20:53.20 | hyperChipmunk | i was |
20:53.22 | Chompers | fatal wow error every time we leave an arena, is that linked to the pitbull problem? |
20:53.33 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: TinyTipExtras and TinyTipOptions are both going to be rewritten, and are not supported with the newer version of TinyTip. |
20:53.45 | ckknight | Chompers: very likely. |
20:53.46 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r53 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Oops, db is a local value. |
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20:53.54 | ckknight | Chompers: if by PitBull problem you mean Blizzard's problem |
20:53.57 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: the external is https |
20:54.01 | ckknight | Chompers: which PitBull brings to light |
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20:54.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
20:55.05 | Thrae | ckknight: What, you're going to make your own Ace(tm) Tooltip Mod just to spite my lack of WoWAce SVN usage? :D |
20:55.15 | ckknight | no |
20:55.16 | ckknight | no |
20:55.17 | ckknight | not that |
20:55.22 | hyperChipmunk | good enough reason for me |
20:55.22 | ckknight | just someone suggested it |
20:55.29 | ckknight | but yea, it might happen |
20:55.39 | hyperChipmunk | i can't fix bugs in your repo |
20:55.41 | ckknight | I'll name it something crazy and not tooltip related |
20:55.47 | ckknight | I'm thinking Gazelle |
20:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | As an aside, a tag-based tooltip mod in the spirit of Aloft might be interesting |
20:56.03 | dacoffey | can't you hook a svn submit to mirror a commit to another svn repo? |
20:56.06 | ckknight | and I'm also thinking that it's viable to have DogTag-1.0 support |
20:56.14 | vrak | WAU is pretty handy tbh, and i for one don't want to go back to checking 34623 different addon sites every day |
20:56.17 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: since it's unit-based, I'd go with DogTag-1.0, likely |
20:56.34 | Thrae | dacoffey: That wouldn't work with the zips and WAU. |
20:56.42 | dacoffey | oh |
20:56.59 | break19 | ok. I'm wondering if my filesystem is fubared again.. it would certainly explain my problems.. lemme check |
20:57.31 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r54 10/ (trunk/TinyTipExtras branches/TinyTipExtras): TinyTipExtras: Moved to branches, as this is deprecated. |
20:57.31 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r55 10/ (branches/TinyTipOptions trunk/TinyTipOptions): TinyTipOptions: Moved remotely to branches, as this is now deprecated. |
20:57.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: eh, thats not quite what i meant, and it probably doesn't matter which tag library is used :P |
20:57.49 | ckknight | yea |
20:58.32 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: where's the options then? |
20:59.49 | break19 | filesystem checks out.. i wonder if virex is screwin with stuff.. lemme remove it. |
20:59.57 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: TinyTipCoreModules, an addon I hope to get finished by the end of today. It contains support for saved user profiles, slash commands, and advanced skinning. |
21:00.32 | hyperChipmunk | wtf did you delete the svn.wowace.com then =\ |
21:01.11 | Thrae | Because that version was unstable since 2.0. |
21:01.25 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40407 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: |
21:01.25 | CIA-22 | GraphLib - Real-time graphs now can have Y Labels as well |
21:01.25 | CIA-22 | -:SetGridSecondaryMultiple(XAxis,YAxis) this sets the multiple factor for |
21:01.25 | CIA-22 | determining if a grid line is secondary or not (if mod(lineNum,multiple)==0 then |
21:01.25 | CIA-22 | primary else secondary) Secondary lines have the secondary color set and don't |
21:01.25 | CIA-22 | get text labels |
21:01.27 | CIA-22 | -:SetGridColorSecondary({R,G,B,A}) is added to graphs that can have grid lines and this is the color for the secondary grid lines |
21:01.32 | Funkeh` | CIA is reporting 2 repositorys now? |
21:01.36 | Funkeh` | confusing |
21:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | wfm; now i'm gonna get svn errors >8\ |
21:02.01 | Cryect | well it tells you which one its reporting for |
21:02.08 | Thrae | I didn't delete TinyTip from the svn proper, I replaced it with an addon which nags you to go to my SVN repository ;) |
21:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | wow thx |
21:02.31 | abyssichate | we will find the future versions of tinytips on http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/downloads/list then? |
21:02.42 | Funkeh` | Thrae: whats wrong with the wowace svn? |
21:03.05 | Thrae | abyssichate: When it's released, yes. I hope to get it release-ready by the end of the week. Until then, you can use the SVN. |
21:03.16 | abyssichate | Alrighty |
21:03.35 | hyperChipmunk | Funkeh`: he wants to be of teh lame |
21:03.40 | Funkeh` | Thrae: ? |
21:03.43 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Mmm, I like my own little SVN. |
21:04.02 | liquiem | very sad for wau user :/ |
21:04.04 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40408 10Recount/GUI_Realtime.lua: |
21:04.04 | CIA-22 | Recount - Autoadjusts grid spacing on real-time graphs |
21:04.04 | CIA-22 | -Enables Y Labels for real-time graphs |
21:04.04 | CIA-22 | -And smoothly adjusts the secondary line color as it adjust the grid spacing on real-time graphs |
21:04.15 | hyperChipmunk | i.e. i like screwin' lotsa ppl over hehe |
21:04.34 | Funkeh` | Thrae: right, the only thing that will result in is a much lower amount of users, you won't be able to take advantage of WAU for example, and the result will be a new wowace tooltip mod |
21:04.43 | liquiem | or there will be a master file with all registered addons and there location |
21:04.47 | hyperChipmunk | LF new ttip mod |
21:04.57 | nekoh | BigWigs error when activating Al |
21:04.59 | dodgizzla | [2007/06/17 23:04:25-1287-x1]: DogTag-1.0-40405 (DogTag-1.0):3066: attempt to index local 'possibleReturns' (a nil value) |
21:05.03 | dodgizzla | Ayeeeee mucho error :D |
21:05.04 | Funkeh` | Thrae: take a look at haste for example |
21:05.13 | nekoh | BigWigs error when activating Al'ar module: http://ace.pastey.net/57035 |
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21:06.04 | Funkeh` | Thrae: i mean its your choice ofc, but the only result will be negatice effects for you |
21:06.13 | Funkeh` | less users, less bugs fixed etc, lower popularity |
21:06.29 | hyperChipmunk | no help, either |
21:06.37 | Cryect | haha |
21:06.47 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r56 10/ (trunk/TipLib branches/TipLib): TipLib: I don't know what the hell I was thinking when I wrote this. It's now in branches for posterity. |
21:07.06 | hyperChipmunk | i've made more than a few commits to TinyTip in the past |
21:07.08 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40409 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: bugfix |
21:07.20 | Funkeh` | nekoh: fixed |
21:07.34 | nekoh | ty |
21:07.40 | Thrae | Funkeh`: I also hope to make a very simple batch/script for SVN updates. It'll iterate through all your directories and check your listed SVNs for updates. |
21:07.41 | haste | Funkeh`: I find the situation better, so I see no problem in it |
21:07.54 | kbh | so every time someone links an item whatever item i have up closes and its getting annoying |
21:08.31 | Funkeh` | Thrae: it still doesn't beat the easy of use that the ace svn updaters offer |
21:09.14 | nevcairiel | its his choice, just let him .. i will still continue to use tinytip .. just change my svn checkout :) |
21:09.37 | Tupsi3472 | nymbia : here? |
21:09.40 | ckknight | nevcairiel: until I force you to switch to Gazelle, that is |
21:10.07 | Tupsi | there is still that "create all" first time only creates two bug in manufac |
21:10.10 | ckknight | :-P |
21:10.12 | Thrae | Funkeh`: I've asked Kaelten if WAU could support other SVNs... |
21:10.20 | Tupsi | dont think i mentioned it so far though |
21:10.39 | Thrae | WAU 2.0 will hopefully. |
21:10.44 | Sais | Tupsi: I've had it where it's actually made everythign I asked for the first time - but only once or twice |
21:10.57 | Sais | ...and it's been mentioned before in here |
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21:11.06 | break19 | and, hopefully, wau 2.0 will run on mono :p |
21:11.20 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r40410 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kael'thas: updated deDE and removed chaotic temperament |
21:11.23 | ckknight | break19: Java |
21:11.27 | Tupsi | ahh ok |
21:11.40 | Tupsi | its not really a playstoper, just tiny annoying |
21:12.14 | durcyn | files.wowace.com is not necessarily tied to a single repository, it'd be simple enough to add googlecode projects to it. |
21:12.32 | durcyn | i suspect the rest is political |
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21:13.04 | hyperChipmunk | it's okay |
21:13.35 | Kaydeethree | just don't bend your fork() |
21:13.44 | break19 | hyperChipmunk: fork the hell out of it |
21:13.59 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: About your earlier comments...I'd rather cooperate then "compete", but you're welcome to use all of TinyTip's code with credit, just not the name. Honestly, I don't see the need to branch TinyTip just to keep it on wowace SVN. |
21:14.35 | hyperChipmunk | naw, i just don't want to do all the hard work making a new one from scratch >8p |
21:14.39 | break19 | fuckin shit. |
21:14.57 | break19 | now MOST of my addons arent loading.. I guess its time for a wtf wipe |
21:15.07 | Sais | Oh, there are a couple of other things with Manufac that annoy me - or at least have done; not sure I was running the latest - just did an update, although I'm not sure that was in the list. Things like it not updating the level correctly, or generally updating the windows while they are open |
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21:15.42 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Which is what I just basically did with the new version ;) The old version was getting away from the "Tiny" in TinyTip. The newer version will keep to the original philosophy. I'm even thinking of removing Dongle from TinyTip proper. |
21:15.42 | hyperChipmunk | ace mkdir TinierTip |
21:16.11 | Thrae | Since it doesn't need most of its functions anyway... |
21:16.15 | Tupsi | sais its messing with characterprofilder if your using that as well |
21:16.47 | hyperChipmunk | honestly, i don't mind you goin' to a diff svn; makes no diff to me except the inability to lend you a hand |
21:17.04 | hyperChipmunk | but deleting the old before the new is usable is really annoying |
21:17.09 | Sais | No, but it used to cause problems with Jigsaw, too. I think that seems to have been resolved now, though. |
21:17.44 | break19 | geezus. even a wtf wipe didnt fix it |
21:18.07 | dodgizzla | break19: Yeah, maybe the addons are broken:D |
21:18.10 | Peoii | break19: swear at it more, it'll fix it. |
21:18.12 | Kergoth | "inability to lend you a hand" .. please. if you have a google account you can get write access to his svn if he chooses to give it to you |
21:18.14 | break19 | WTF!@! I just found the problem |
21:18.18 | break19 | and I blame Kemayo |
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21:18.42 | chuckg | "diff" and "patch" don't exist either. |
21:19.00 | break19 | his update script decided to comment out every single line in all my tocs |
21:19.05 | Thrae | chuckg, Kergoth: Be nice. I'm not "fighting" wowace here. |
21:19.06 | Kergoth | apparently |
21:19.13 | chuckg | I was nice! |
21:19.15 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but that's not really worth it |
21:19.32 | Kergoth | i have write access to like 15 svns. its not exactly difficult to manage |
21:20.05 | Mech0z | anyone know if you need Ora2 to get MTs set by ora in Pitbull? |
21:20.11 | chuckg | But hc is making it sound like you've made it implausible for him to fix a bug in your code and the the reality is, he can regardless of where it's hosted on SVN. Someone really interested in helping "improve" code would help fix it irregardless of where it's hosted. |
21:20.21 | hyperChipmunk | just sayin' that when he was starting out, i made a number of bugfix commits for him; had they been on a different repo, i wouldn't have bothered |
21:21.03 | Peoii | So hey, how bout them Seahawks? |
21:21.29 | hyperChipmunk | that's one thing I value about the wowace svn; I know there's a bunch of good, trustworthy ppl who will fix my mistakes if i suck too much =) |
21:21.50 | Thrae | I've uploaded patches for people on WoWI, too. |
21:21.50 | ckknight | yes, Mech0z |
21:21.59 | chuckg | What's the saying .. |
21:22.00 | hyperChipmunk | and those who kept my addons breathing while i was gone for 6 months or so |
21:22.17 | Kergoth | well, that only works so far, considering a bunch of individuals have locked down their ace addon dirs, and others bitch and moan if you touch their code but havent yet locked them down.. |
21:22.19 | chuckg | "If the world were built by programmers, one gust of wind would knock it over" ? |
21:22.19 | Mech0z | ckknight :( I dont want ora just for that :/ |
21:22.21 | chuckg | Something like that.. |
21:22.32 | kenlyric | I somehow missed part of this conversation... tinytip got deleted? |
21:22.37 | ckknight | Mech0z: I'm not going to add more support into PitBull. Out of scope |
21:22.38 | ckknight | yes, Kenichi |
21:22.41 | ckknight | kenlyric* |
21:22.45 | Kergoth | thrae's hosting the new tinytip on his google code repo |
21:22.53 | chuckg | BASTARD. |
21:22.53 | Mech0z | ok |
21:22.56 | kenlyric | woopdie doo |
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21:23.02 | ckknight | Kergoth: you're capitalized... |
21:23.06 | ckknight | what have you become? |
21:23.12 | hyperChipmunk | lol i was wondering about that too |
21:23.18 | Kergoth | yeah.. my irc proxy went kablooey, and my account name on this windows box is capitalized |
21:23.20 | ckknight | have you forgotten all your values? |
21:23.20 | Kergoth | i keep forgetting to change it |
21:23.22 | hyperChipmunk | and wtf, i wish more ppl would hack on my code |
21:23.31 | styling | There other layout for pitbull? |
21:23.36 | hyperChipmunk | less work for me, and it's probably better code, too |
21:23.58 | Peoii | oh hey speaking of.... I installed bulkmail2... time to go break it. |
21:24.05 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: excellent |
21:24.05 | kenlyric | does wowi make non embedded versions available for ace mods? |
21:24.17 | kergoth | <3 bulkmail2{,inbox} |
21:24.17 | durcyn | kenlyric: it's whatever the author uploads |
21:24.19 | ckknight | styling: just use ABF. |
21:24.21 | breaK19 | hmm. i think i like it a different way.. |
21:24.21 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: wowi is released as the author intends |
21:24.26 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Holy shit |
21:24.27 | ckknight | styling: and edit it |
21:24.45 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I'm not sure about the commitment of someone who can't just use another medium of development hosting ;) |
21:24.51 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Ok, so maybe seeing ALL of my mail is a bad thing... considering I use it as a 2nd 3rd and 4th bank... :/ |
21:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: but that's the point! |
21:25.06 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: in most cases, it's _easier_ for me to hack other people's code than to write from scratch (e.g. Threat-1.0) |
21:25.17 | Peoii | dude, I've got a years supply of raiding materials in there :P |
21:25.19 | hyperChipmunk | click the header to sort columns |
21:25.23 | hyperChipmunk | you can't have more than 50 |
21:25.29 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: If you want SVN access, you're welcome to it...\ |
21:25.34 | hyperChipmunk | a little sorting goes a long way |
21:25.42 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: nah, like i said, not really a big deal |
21:25.47 | Thrae | ckknight can have it too |
21:25.51 | Thrae | SVN access for everyone! |
21:25.55 | ckknight | hoorays! |
21:26.03 | chuckg | Me too. |
21:26.15 | chuckg | I want to code in a "Thank you Jesus" message. |
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21:27.03 | [dRaCo] | I want svn access, too. Gotta remove that message. |
21:27.09 | nevcairiel | hehe |
21:27.23 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: ok, suggestion... would there be a way to make it a tree-based layout? By which my 20 mails of "Superior Wizard Oil" could be collapsed into 1 listing, expandable only when I choose? |
21:27.24 | chuckg | Disbelievers shall burn for eternity. |
21:27.40 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: code it up >8D |
21:27.51 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: doh! knew that was coming.... h8. |
21:28.06 | hyperChipmunk | I'll give it some thought |
21:28.08 | kenlyric | neat... it's not actually deleted. |
21:28.15 | break19|91kaerb | can I have it too? all I'll add is funny comments throughout the code "-- break19 was here" or maybe "-- tinytip + 18 wheeler = multitips" heh |
21:28.37 | [dRaCo] | ... violence is the path to the dark side. |
21:28.44 | [dRaCo] | or something like that. |
21:28.47 | Tornhoof | i like violence |
21:29.02 | [dRaCo] | why? |
21:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: 17:02 < Thrae> I didn't delete TinyTip from the svn proper, I replaced it with an addon which nags you to go to my SVN repository ;) |
21:29.09 | Peoii | cause yea, my inbox is nothing but fish and oil. |
21:29.15 | Tornhoof | dark side > * |
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21:30.09 | kenlyric | bah, now I have compare tooltip mods! |
21:30.10 | [dRaCo] | Join the dark side, we've got cookies. |
21:30.17 | kenlyric | dun like work. |
21:30.50 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: what kind? |
21:30.53 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182115807160.jpg |
21:30.54 | Fisker- | hahah |
21:31.15 | [dRaCo] | chocolate chip |
21:31.27 | kenlyric | Fisker-: guess that makes sense in your locality? |
21:31.56 | Fisker- | i guess you mean reality |
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21:32.05 | Fisker- | you don't watch Doctor Who? :( |
21:32.29 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: I want mint |
21:32.37 | kenlyric | too lazy to torrent it. |
21:32.44 | Gngsk | should I make a preemptive, "Omg where's TinyTip" post on the forums? |
21:32.52 | dodgizzla | there already is one.. |
21:32.56 | Gngsk | damn. |
21:33.18 | dodgizzla | actually it's more a "zomgs what r teh happening" |
21:33.34 | birde | thrae |
21:33.45 | birde | so i just need the tiny tip folder, no more other folders? |
21:33.48 | [dRaCo] | ckk: gotta check that with the emperor, gimme a moment. |
21:34.09 | Thrae | birde: The other folder names will change, so yes. You can delete the other addons. |
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21:34.46 | Thrae | birde: TinyTip only has the core functionality included right now, since I'm rewriting from mostly scratch. |
21:34.53 | birde | will it work like it was ? i cna wait for an updated version |
21:35.00 | liquiem | including raid icons and such? |
21:35.14 | birde | ugh, need to find old version then, liked it the way it was, wish i didnt update now |
21:35.16 | aen` | HAHAHA, have u guys heard this? http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/6/0/16060e7494731141dfb39f517de33407.mp3 |
21:35.18 | birde | force of habit |
21:35.22 | kenlyric | wait, you don't even have a working replacement? |
21:35.34 | Thrae | birde: Yes |
21:35.46 | Thrae | kenlyric: It works, just not the same. |
21:35.52 | Mikk | huhu.. can someone branch off tinytip and call it something else then? >.< |
21:36.10 | liquiem | that's bad. you could at least have had the old version leave on svn until new rewriten ttip is out |
21:36.20 | birde | ya, i liked tinytip the way it was workign yesterday |
21:36.25 | JoshBorke | or he could do what he wants with the mod he wrote? |
21:36.39 | kenlyric | I could care less about what it displays. Can it move where the tooltip is attached to? |
21:36.41 | Mikk | Ok.. wtb new name |
21:36.43 | birde | and i would like an older version handy with full functionality in the mean time |
21:36.45 | Mikk | BloatyTip? =P |
21:36.56 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40411 10Recount/ (GUI_Realtime.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): |
21:36.56 | CIA-22 | Recount - Can now track threat in real-time windows |
21:36.56 | CIA-22 | -Can now have multiple real-time windows tracking the same stat for the same person |
21:36.56 | kenlyric | JoshBorke: sure, just like Kenco |
21:36.58 | JoshBorke | Mikk: obviously it will be named AceTip |
21:37.01 | Mikk | NotSoTinyTip? |
21:37.01 | todd | install the old one and make a .svn folder.. problem solved :P |
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21:37.12 | Mikk | ahhhh cheers todd |
21:38.30 | dodgizzla | SomeoneSetUsUpTheTip |
21:38.41 | vhaarr | Thrae: So the TinyTip on your google SVN is not in a working state? |
21:38.55 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: what do you mean just like kenco? how is this situation similar. please enlighten me. my understanding of the kenco situation is thus: random user X posts "i see KLHTM using lots of cpu" (or something to that effect). other people look into it and find similar results. still more people look into it and see that he's doing horrible stuff. messages get posted on the thread, kenco gets defensive, everyone pulls out their d |
21:39.18 | JoshBorke | somewhere in there the idea to write an Ace based threat solution is born and Threat-1.0 is created |
21:39.23 | Mikk | TipGnome? |
21:39.34 | Fisker- | GnomeTipping |
21:39.42 | JoshBorke | Fisker-: winnah |
21:39.43 | Mikk | MoreTips |
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21:39.57 | liquiem | gnometip sounds like a "bar" addon |
21:39.57 | Mikk | gnomes are punted, not tipped |
21:40.09 | Fisker- | but what about stripping gnomes? :( |
21:40.16 | Mikk | yuck |
21:40.20 | Mikk | just yuck |
21:40.21 | JoshBorke | CowTip? |
21:40.27 | Peoii | I swear, I'm gonna write an addon that'll automagically kill you everytime you walk forward if you're not a gnome... diaf you gnome hating bastards. |
21:40.41 | JoshBorke | it insinuates bloatedness while not being specific |
21:41.01 | trh_ | gnomes.... ah.. those thing my owl eats for breakfast :) |
21:41.05 | kenlyric | Peoii: who would install that addon? |
21:41.10 | kenlyric | call it "keyboard logger" |
21:41.18 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: just put it in fubar |
21:41.30 | Mikk | NotSoTinyTip, seriously :P |
21:41.36 | CIA-22 | 03thrae * r40412 10TinyTip/: TinyTip: bye-bye |
21:41.37 | Peoii | Nah, I'd just call it something sneaky like "KLHTM CPU FIXER" |
21:41.51 | Peoii | cause I'm evil like that... |
21:42.11 | Mikk | that one exists |
21:42.12 | JoshBorke | Peoii: but i thought antiarc already wrote that |
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21:42.19 | Peoii | meh |
21:42.25 | Peoii | it was simply an example ;) |
21:42.33 | kenlyric | god, these mod websites are designed my monkeys. |
21:42.35 | Peoii | If I wanted to let you in on my actual scheme, I'd have to kill you. |
21:42.36 | birde | ok,what is the slash command for the new tinytip? /ttip isnt working |
21:42.58 | Mikk | fine.. here it comes |
21:43.01 | Kemayo | break19|91kaerb: This is what you get for using SVN version of scripts! |
21:43.18 | Kemayo | break19|91kaerb: Seriously, though, which addon, and what OS are you on? |
21:43.30 | Thrae | I fail at using wowace's SVN...you can all revert TinyTip on the SVN back to the old version if you want |
21:43.44 | Saroz | thrae * r40412 TinyTip/: TinyTip: bye-bye |
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21:43.45 | Saroz | WHAT |
21:43.47 | Saroz | WHAA |
21:43.57 | birde | thrae: what is the slash command now on your new version that is on your svn? |
21:43.57 | Saroz | nooooooooooooooooooo |
21:44.01 | Mikk | he's remaking tinytip to be actually tiny |
21:44.04 | birde | becausse /ttip isnt working |
21:44.07 | kenlyric | so, do I go back to tooltip wrangler? do I dare? |
21:44.08 | Saroz | ah PHEW |
21:44.09 | Mikk | but inviting others to keep maintaining the old one under a new name |
21:44.14 | Thrae | birde: I haven't added that yet |
21:44.22 | Mikk | now i just need a name |
21:44.32 | birde | is there a way to move it at all? its sitting over my chat window |
21:44.39 | kenlyric | nice, not updated since 2005. who the hell runs wowi? so I can go beat them senseless? |
21:44.43 | Gngsk | TinyRip |
21:44.48 | Mikk | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
21:44.55 | Mikk | I'm liking it =P |
21:45.01 | Saroz | lol |
21:45.20 | Saroz | I'm keeping my TinyTip |
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21:45.30 | Mikk | unfortunately it's useless for new users =( |
21:45.41 | JoshBorke | RipTip? |
21:45.45 | vhaarr | I assumed that the one in google SVN was actually usable, since Thrae advertised it in the commit, so I already deleted my copy. |
21:45.53 | vhaarr | Saroz: Care to commit it again? |
21:46.11 | birde | is there a url to old commits then?i would like to get an older version of tinytip since this one cant be modified yet |
21:46.24 | Mikk | http://files.wowace.com/TinyTip/ |
21:46.52 | Thrae | Look, if I knew how to revert TinyTip back to the older version on the wowace SVN, I'd do it. |
21:46.59 | Thrae | If anyone knows how, please do so. |
21:47.21 | birde | mikk, that addy doesnt work |
21:47.34 | Mikk | works just fine for me |
21:47.39 | liquiem | birde, it works for me |
21:47.52 | birde | odd, got it to work now |
21:48.01 | kenlyric | the only useful thing I get out of a tooltip mod is being able to reposition it. Just need a mod that does that. |
21:48.02 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40413 10ThreatToKTM/ (FuBarPlugin.lua ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc): |
21:48.02 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
21:48.02 | CIA-22 | - FuBarPlugin moved to its own file, you can disable it by commenting the .toc entry, |
21:48.02 | CIA-22 | - removed active probe, |
21:48.02 | CIA-22 | - now records pure KTM user versions. |
21:48.54 | Thrae | kenlyric: TinyTipCoreModules will be independant of TinyTip and includes repositioning, along with the database and slash commands. |
21:49.10 | durcyn | ok, so go code it before you nuke the old one. |
21:49.21 | Saroz | vhaarr, want me to add it back? |
21:49.22 | JoshBorke | thrae: what revision did you delete it? |
21:49.29 | durcyn | 37051 works. |
21:49.45 | liquiem | Changelog-TinyTipOptions-r37156.txt looks like the latest version |
21:49.53 | liquiem | eh |
21:49.58 | liquiem | 37051 ^^ |
21:50.57 | kenlyric | we should all just calm down. Just remember oCB and then look at quartz :) |
21:51.17 | durcyn | still, adhering to the principle of least astonishment would make for a smoother transition. |
21:51.17 | dodgizzla | So that means |
21:51.23 | dodgizzla | Quartz_Tooltip? |
21:51.27 | hyperChipmunk | well, there will be a new one soon |
21:51.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40414 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - account for every single table creation, fix memory leaks. |
21:51.28 | Saroz | nymbia is making a tooltip mod? |
21:51.29 | Saroz | YAY! |
21:51.29 | chuckg | oCB still owns. |
21:51.37 | Saroz | oCB is legacy code, gogo :p |
21:51.38 | chuckg | The version from 2 years ago. |
21:51.42 | hyperChipmunk | but in the meantime, i'd prefer if my current one wasn't broken |
21:51.44 | dodgizzla | I knew it! Quartz will annihilate all other addons! |
21:51.48 | kenlyric | owns a shack down by the river. |
21:51.51 | liquiem | hmm, that's not the point. but remove ttip without a working version on other repo is really strange |
21:51.56 | Kaelten | http://www.b3ta.com/links/How_fire_reacts_to_soundwaves |
21:52.06 | hyperChipmunk | breaking everybody's addons because you changed repos is not good practice |
21:52.10 | Mikk | CHILL GUYS, WE'RE GETTING TINYTIP BACK ON THE ACE SVN |
21:52.14 | Mikk | CHILL GUYS, WE'RE GETTING TINYTIP BACK ON THE ACE SVN |
21:52.16 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: everyone knows that sound puts out fires |
21:52.18 | Saroz | want me to recommit it? |
21:52.20 | Fisker- | CHILL GUYS, WE'RE GETTING TINYTIP BACK ON THE ACE SVN |
21:52.23 | dodgizzla | I want my Quartz_Tooltip! :P |
21:52.25 | JoshBorke | Saroz: yes |
21:52.29 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: go look at it |
21:52.30 | JoshBorke | Saroz: thrae has already said so |
21:52.36 | Thrae | Saroz: Go ahead, I'm getting damn eol-style errors. |
21:52.38 | Kaelten | its not what you're thinking |
21:52.52 | Mikk | yeah, you have to add an empty folder first |
21:52.52 | kenlyric | is it from mythbusters? |
21:52.56 | kenlyric | cause I saw that one. |
21:52.59 | Mikk | so you can set attribs on it |
21:53.02 | liquiem | that's old kaelten |
21:53.07 | Mikk | can't import whole dirs |
21:53.10 | Kaelten | first time I'd seen it |
21:53.11 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40415 10TinyTip/: |
21:53.11 | CIA-22 | TinyTip: |
21:53.11 | CIA-22 | - restoring tinytip dir |
21:53.52 | CAL|SMeltn | uhhh |
21:54.02 | dodgizzla | funky fire stuff |
21:54.02 | CAL|SMeltn | lmao Fisker |
21:54.20 | CAL|SMeltn | I just logged in and got the tinytip error and was coming here to just ask about it |
21:54.24 | CAL|SMeltn | and seen your spam |
21:54.34 | JoshBorke | that's pretty cool |
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21:55.44 | ckknight | cool, Kaelten |
21:56.35 | liquiem | ckknight, is there a blog/forum post about the recent blizzard issue that you discovered with pitbull? |
21:56.50 | ckknight | I posted some stuff on the wow forum |
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21:56.54 | ckknight | nothing came of it |
21:57.04 | ckknight | liquiem: basically, you just gotta wait for WoW 2.1.2 |
21:57.28 | JoshBorke | ckknight: could you branch the conflicting code while we wait on 2.1.2? |
21:57.33 | liquiem | ckknight, i wonder if the crashes happen for everyone or just under special conditions |
21:57.37 | ckknight | JoshBorke: no |
21:58.13 | kenlyric | is there a mod (or even a way) to make enchanting the same item 30 times a bit faster? |
21:58.15 | ckknight | liquiem: it happens non-consistently when party changes |
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21:58.46 | liquiem | call/dismiss our pet is considered partychange i guess |
21:59.00 | ckknight | possible |
21:59.14 | kergoth | kenlyric, tek's Panda addon fixes autoloot for de/prospect.. he said he got it from gfw, so i presume one of his addons does it too |
21:59.21 | kergoth | oh, you said enchant, not dis.. i'm blind |
21:59.26 | kergoth | there is an addon for that.. let me try to remember what it was |
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21:59.42 | Tekkub | GFW DE Pred has it |
21:59.51 | Tekkub | tho mine does prospecting tew |
22:00.07 | kenlyric | well, that would be another good thing to get :) |
22:02.09 | Matrix110 | Tekkub can you add: 32617, 32622, 32616 to CorkFu? (They are pets) |
22:02.43 | Matrix110 | no i cant do it myself:P |
22:03.28 | kenlyric | Tekkub: what's your mod called, and where do I find it if it's not wowi? |
22:05.00 | CIA-22 | 03thrae * r40416 10TinyTip/ (19 files in 4 dirs): TinyTip: Reverted. (wowace) |
22:06.57 | liquiem | bah, im looking for a mod that fades custom defined patterns into your hud.. something with aura |
22:08.06 | TheKarn | anyone know of a standalone (or addon) regex tester that uses LUA's syntax? |
22:08.06 | krka | TheKarn: Lua is not an acronym. |
22:08.18 | TheKarn | my bad |
22:08.37 | liquiem | i had it some time ago and saw it on nihilum's ilidan movie and now i want to play with it again |
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22:09.06 | hyperChipmunk | Power Auras? |
22:09.20 | hyperChipmunk | not sure if that works anymore |
22:09.44 | kenlyric | yay! new spiffworld JC video |
22:09.49 | liquiem | ah yes, power auras |
22:10.05 | kenlyric | god, for two weeks. Where have I been? |
22:10.15 | liquiem | last updated 5 months ago, hmm |
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22:11.03 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40417 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
22:11.03 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
22:11.03 | CIA-22 | -- 11562:670 Ungoro Restore, 11951:800 Whipper Root, 11952:425 Night Dragon's Breath |
22:11.03 | CIA-22 | -- 19183 Hourglass Sand |
22:11.03 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Buff.Spell Reflect.Self 20080 Sheen of Zanza |
22:11.04 | CIA-22 | -- Misc.Hearth : Hearthsone & Ruby Slippers |
22:11.06 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Buff.Free Action : 20008,5634 |
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22:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | nymbia: what's the categorical difference between Tradeskill.Gem and Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Gem? |
22:14.12 | break19 | Kemayo: sorry, was afk.. which addons did it NOT completely comment out.. would be a far faster one to answer lol |
22:14.16 | Kemayo | break19: I've worked out why wowace.py is commenting out everything. |
22:14.20 | ckknight | pants: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110644023&postId=1103959191&sid=1#5 |
22:14.28 | break19 | and im on mac |
22:14.44 | Kemayo | Yeah -- I forgot to account for different path separators. |
22:14.48 | break19 | heh |
22:15.00 | hyperChipmunk | nymbia: seems the latter has only old-world gems |
22:15.24 | CIA-22 | 03gits * r40418 10Acolyte2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
22:15.24 | CIA-22 | Acolyte2: |
22:15.24 | CIA-22 | - some minor fixes |
22:15.24 | CIA-22 | - option to disable flash of frames when in shadow trance |
22:15.30 | Wobin | hurrah |
22:15.32 | break19 | uhm, svn didnt update anything. did you commit the fix yet, Kemayo ? |
22:15.36 | Holy | hey, does anyone have idea, if exists a mod that fades the entire hud when OOC, but not completely - only sets alpha on everything...? |
22:17.06 | ckknight | Holy: IceHUD? |
22:17.06 | kergoth | hmm, does fruityloots still work? |
22:17.14 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
22:17.19 | hyperChipmunk | i still use it |
22:17.46 | break19 | Kemayo: wowace.py is still at rvn 50? |
22:17.48 | JoshBork1 | holy: local f = CreateFrame('Frame'); f:SetScript('OnEvent', function(frame, event) if event == "PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED" then UIParent:SetAlpha(0.5) elseif event == "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" then UIParent:SetAlpha(1) end end); f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED"), f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED"); |
22:18.23 | Holy | thx a lot, I'll give it a try ;) |
22:18.52 | CIA-22 | 03gits * r40419 10Acolyte2/core.lua: |
22:18.52 | CIA-22 | Acolyte2: |
22:18.52 | CIA-22 | - just a minor fix |
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22:20.04 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: ping |
22:20.36 | dodgizzla | there was an addon called NCHide on ace svn.. never tried it, but I think it does ooc hiding :o |
22:20.54 | trh_ | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/57026-4173 |
22:21.35 | Antiarc | Thanks! |
22:21.41 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Ping? |
22:21.48 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40420 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
22:21.48 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
22:21.49 | CIA-22 | - little bugfix, |
22:21.49 | CIA-22 | - removed some debug statments, |
22:21.49 | CIA-22 | - tested in raid with pure KTM users, it seems worky ! |
22:22.00 | Holy | dodgizzla yeah, but it hides everything except minimap. I just wanted to set alpha on everything while OOC |
22:24.25 | Kemayo | break19: Yeah, I hadn't committed the fix yet. It's up now, and seems to be working as intended. |
22:24.31 | break19 | kk |
22:24.58 | dodgizzla | Holy: Ah I see |
22:26.18 | break19 | Kemayo: if I use the -f without any addon names, the script will reinstall all my addons, correct? |
22:26.38 | Kemayo | Correct. |
22:27.12 | break19 | kk, then i'll do so, and check tocs :) |
22:27.19 | kenlyric | hmmm.. I'm missing some valuable setting out of manufac, I think. |
22:27.49 | break19 | 'cause rolf's java updater fubars 2 addons' tocs, and he cant trace it down, want to see if yours does those same two.. |
22:28.30 | Ominous | adirelle: is threat-1.0 in "stable" beta yet |
22:28.53 | Adirelle | Ominous: ask Antirac |
22:28.53 | Kemayo | break19: Which two is it? |
22:28.57 | Adirelle | antiarc, sry |
22:29.06 | Ominous | Adirelle, yes stuipd me |
22:29.10 | Ominous | miss tab |
22:29.14 | Antiarc | Ominous: Sorta, kinda, not really |
22:29.17 | break19 | onebank and cartographer. comments out onebank.lua and all the waypoints lines in cartographer |
22:29.23 | Ominous | so no recommending to guild yet :) |
22:29.32 | Antiarc | The structure is defined, but I've got some weird threat value stuff going on |
22:29.35 | Adirelle | btw, I need testers for TTK (ThreatToKTM), I just tested it myself, seemed to be working |
22:29.36 | Antiarc | So I'd hold off a bit |
22:30.06 | kenlyric | oh, lol, now i get it. |
22:30.22 | abyssichate | Antiarc: did you ever have bars being coloured with wrong colours? (in my case, some were all white) |
22:30.29 | Ominous | Adirelle, im using it just so guild dont complain about no ktm |
22:30.40 | Daemona | Adirelle will give it a run tomorrow in raid environment |
22:30.42 | Antiarc | abyssichate: Yeah, I saw that, thought I fixed it but I may not have |
22:31.13 | Kemayo | break19: I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to comment out things in OneBank.toc. |
22:31.23 | break19 | Kemayo: small suggestion.. always split !!SAL if it's updated/installed.. :) |
22:31.24 | Wobin | huzzah, new wine |
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22:33.06 | JoshBork1 | huzzah! |
22:33.25 | break19 | Kemayo: ok, your script appears to comment-out correctly now :) |
22:33.44 | break19 | checked 3 or 4, and found no problems. |
22:33.58 | Kemayo | Excellent. Sorry about the bug. :D |
22:34.39 | break19 | heh, it drove me crazy for a while.. "why are my addons sayin I have missing files? wtf, is my filesystem corrupt again? gahhh" lol |
22:34.57 | Adirelle | Ominous, Daemona: there were reports of perfomance issues, I didn't have any, could you check ? |
22:35.22 | Ominous | Adirelle, well i suppose it will make the user feel as if he were using ktm |
22:35.35 | Daemona | dunno, only issue i had with an earlier revision was infinite aggro bars to the left side on aloft ;) |
22:35.41 | Ominous | Adirelle: wouldnt notice as only done 1h of kara on laggy laptop with it |
22:35.43 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Pong. |
22:35.45 | break19 | oh, hey Ominous, while ya have your head in here.. i have a question about classtimers. |
22:35.52 | Ominous | sure |
22:36.13 | break19 | is this normal behavior? bars appearing, disappearing, when using all in one ? |
22:36.33 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Had a chance to test spriest things yet? |
22:36.36 | Adirelle | Ominous: shouldn't be as heavy as KTM, as it relies on Threat-1.0 and a little repeating event to broadcast when dirty |
22:36.48 | Ominous | Adirelle, i was joking =D |
22:36.59 | Adirelle | oh :) |
22:37.01 | Kalman| | Antiarc: I have not; have to deal with the whole PTR thing, since I can't afford to respec on live. :/ |
22:37.03 | break19 | as in, i have a pally that drops HoJ, and it replaces my bars with just hoj, then they come back and hoj is in there, in the middle.. seems like something crazy is goin on.. just an annoyance, but still |
22:37.07 | Antiarc | Heh, okay |
22:37.18 | Adirelle | btw, you can take the fubar plugin out by tweaking the toc |
22:37.24 | Adirelle | this way it will be "invisible" |
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22:38.41 | dodgizzla | In PitBull, when I select "outside bottom left" as position for a text, it is somewhere top left and not where "outside middle" or "outside bottom right" is :\ |
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22:39.06 | break19 | Ominous: im guessing its not normal? |
22:39.31 | Ominous | break19: no |
22:39.46 | Ominous | break19: you a pally? |
22:39.54 | break19 | i have a pally alt |
22:39.56 | ckknight | dodgizzla: I'll check it out |
22:40.01 | break19 | hell. i have a *alt |
22:40.20 | break19 | i've got at least 1 of everything lol |
22:40.41 | Ominous | break19: i dont have a clue what would cause that |
22:40.58 | break19 | me either. :p |
22:41.05 | Ominous | break19: as the setting to enable the buff shouldnt even be there |
22:41.07 | Ominous | for you |
22:41.24 | Daemona | Adirelle what i wanted to ask you all the time before... are you the one doing that rogue spreadsheet @ ej? |
22:42.16 | Adirelle | Daemona: err... what ? |
22:42.44 | Adirelle | Daemona: erm... considering my only char is an hunter... |
22:42.55 | break19 | Kemayo: uh oh. i missed one :) |
22:42.58 | break19 | [2007/06/17 17:41:02-985-x1]: ...s\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\PartyPoint.lua:3: Cannot find a library instance of Roster-2.1.: |
22:43.02 | break19 | Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:470: in function `AceLibrary' |
22:43.04 | break19 | ...s\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\PartyPoint.lua:3: in main chunk: |
22:43.13 | sbu | so install roster-2.1? :p |
22:43.17 | Cryect | Daemona you thinking of Kalman|? |
22:43.28 | Cryect | though don't know if he is still doing one |
22:43.37 | Kalman| | Cryect: Adriana. |
22:43.41 | Daemona | aah no its Aldriana |
22:43.47 | Kalman| | Or Aldriana, I guess. |
22:44.02 | Daemona | need to see if i can get myself unbanned... getting banned for bad grammar suxx :( |
22:44.02 | Kalman| | I haven't touched a rogue sheet in quite a while, not since Pf was working on integrating CP/Cycle. |
22:44.19 | Kalman| | Daemona: Was it a permaban or just a 7 day? |
22:44.28 | Daemona | dunno i didnt care to check. |
22:44.36 | break19 | sbu: its installed :) |
22:44.39 | Kalman| | Was probably just a 7 day. |
22:44.45 | sbu | Daemona: banned where? |
22:44.54 | Cryect | EJ forums :-p |
22:44.56 | Daemona | elitistjerks |
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22:45.10 | Kalman| | Koaschten, right? |
22:45.15 | break19 | RosterLib is installed and loaded, according to ACP |
22:45.21 | Daemona | hu? yeah |
22:45.22 | abyssichate | some EJ posts give me vomit :| |
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22:45.55 | Kalman| | I think it was a 7-day. |
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22:47.05 | Daemona | yeah, but nonetheless, banning ppl for missing out a caps or punctuation here and there goes overboard. at least for me. |
22:47.31 | Bibi`ouF | stop crying Daemona, banning you is fine |
22:47.43 | Daemona | Bibi`ouF no more fth info for you. |
22:47.45 | Daemona | ! |
22:47.48 | Bibi`ouF | :( |
22:47.51 | Daemona | ;) |
22:47.53 | Kalman| | Daemona: I think they go overboard, but at the same time, it's nice having readable posts. |
22:48.01 | Daemona | i agree there. |
22:48.23 | vhaarr | Well, fact is, when you're writing a forum post, you have time to use a spell checker and properly format your post before you click 'Post'. |
22:48.24 | Daemona | and for the first three infractions i got, i went back to the post and corrected them, replied to kaubel and got a "i dont care" |
22:48.34 | vhaarr | But still, seems a bit excessive to ban you for it. |
22:49.19 | break19 | Kemayo: ok, its not a toc problem... |
22:49.19 | Kalman| | vhaarr: Multiple warnings = 3-7 day vacation. Daemona got 3 or 4 warnings. |
22:49.26 | kenlyric | I don't know. Their forums don't suck. |
22:49.53 | TheKarn | what's the most efficient way to implelemt a simple FIFO stack? |
22:49.59 | CAL|SMeltn | ew I like the dead timer now on the frames ck |
22:49.59 | TheKarn | in lua ofc |
22:50.07 | ckknight | :-) |
22:50.08 | vhaarr | Daemona: Perhaps you can find comfort in the fact that SA would probably have banned you after 1 warning. |
22:50.21 | Kemayo | break19: As expected. My script is PERFECT! |
22:50.21 | JoshBorke | TheKarn: tinsert(tbl, item); tremove(tbl,1) |
22:50.32 | Kalman| | Anyway, Daemona, checked, you were on a 7 day. |
22:50.48 | break19 | Kemayo: lol |
22:50.57 | TheKarn | JoshBorke, is that more efficient then using a string? (i'm only dealing with single chars) |
22:51.27 | Daemona | if it wasnt the only good place for rogue theorycrafting i wouldnt even bother checking if the ban ran out Kalman| :/ guess i will login and become a lurker. |
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22:51.59 | JoshBorke | TheKarn: what? i'm talking about using tables, not strings |
22:52.06 | TheKarn | i know |
22:52.15 | TheKarn | dont worry i was being stupid |
22:52.20 | JoshBorke | so i don't understand where string came in :D |
22:52.22 | TheKarn | a table does make more logical sense |
22:52.27 | break19 | well shit. I'll never get this shit fixed if the wife wont let me try.. |
22:52.29 | TheKarn | i was gunna append to a string, then sub it off |
22:52.29 | break19 | bbl |
22:52.45 | JoshBorke | thekarn: k, glad you got that out of your system |
22:52.50 | TheKarn | hehe |
22:54.19 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Care to enlighten me how Sticky in ClassTimers should work? :D |
22:54.55 | Ominous | urm its supposed to make a bar stay even when you deslect your target but its buggy |
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22:55.04 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Ah, thought so :D Cause it did not work :D |
22:55.14 | Ominous | what didnt work on it |
22:55.52 | dodgizzla | I posted in the forums. In short: I disabled all other bars and stickied all de-/buffs and nothing shows up |
22:58.06 | Ominous | ckknight: ping |
22:58.44 | ckknight | pong |
22:58.45 | ckknight | what's up? |
22:59.13 | Ominous | would it be possible to add an option to preformance fu always to display an addon in profilling |
22:59.20 | Ominous | even its its not in top 20 |
23:01.03 | Ominous | how good/bad is it for a timer addon to be using .3% cpu when in full flow in combat? |
23:01.17 | ckknight | timer addon? |
23:01.23 | ckknight | ClassTimers? |
23:01.27 | Ominous | ya |
23:01.32 | ckknight | hrm... .3% cpu isn't _horrible_ |
23:01.41 | ckknight | but one should always try to optimize |
23:01.45 | Ominous | ofc |
23:01.47 | ckknight | until you can't figure out how to anymore |
23:01.49 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40421 10Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer: Add X-Embeds to toc. Changed OptionalDeps and X-Embeds to refer to RosterLib instead of Roster-2.1. |
23:02.01 | Kemayo | break19: I suspect that would be your problem. |
23:02.04 | Kalman| | ckknight: With PerfFu enabled and CPU profiling enabled, I get "chug"; with perffu off, no chug. Expected or? |
23:02.13 | Ominous | that is more than i will ever have it tho as i will never use all my buffs at once with a focus target with the same debuffs that im casting as well |
23:02.20 | ckknight | Kalman|: chug? |
23:02.23 | JoshBorke | Kalman|: profiling increase CPU usage |
23:02.30 | Kalman| | JoshBorke: Profiling is on in both cases. |
23:02.44 | Kalman| | ckknight: Every second or so, I freeze for 1/10 second and then catch up. |
23:02.45 | JoshBorke | Kalman|: is the tablet shown? |
23:02.50 | Kalman| | JoshBorke: No. |
23:02.51 | ckknight | Kalman|: oh, yea, cause PerfFu rechecks like every second |
23:02.59 | ckknight | Kalman|: dang, your comp must have issues... |
23:03.08 | ckknight | Kalman|: that's actually blizz's code doing the freeze |
23:03.16 | dodgizzla | ClassTimer did not even show up in top 20 in our 25 raid today :D love it :D |
23:03.24 | ckknight | since basically it has to check all the values |
23:03.25 | Kalman| | ckknight: OK, so, it's me, not everyone. Fantastic. |
23:03.35 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
23:03.52 | Ominous | ya, its nuber 20 atm sorted by cpu time in shattrath attacking the aldor guard in bank which dosent banish |
23:04.00 | Ominous | but off in everything else |
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23:06.28 | Ominous | ckknight: what did you think of my suggestion |
23:06.45 | ckknight | Ominous: gimme a good UI idea for it |
23:06.56 | Ominous | ckknight: what do u mean |
23:07.02 | ckknight | or actually |
23:07.06 | ckknight | can't you just hack it in? |
23:07.08 | ckknight | be a big boy and all? |
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23:07.22 | Ominous | dammit |
23:08.30 | CLASHEN | anyone know a simple addon that just shows a moveable ragebar? |
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23:09.51 | trh_ | Antiarc: there? |
23:10.01 | Ominous | ckknight: what did you say after or actually |
23:10.35 | ckknight | <ckknight> can't you just hack it in? |
23:10.36 | ckknight | <ckknight> be a big boy and all? |
23:11.07 | Antiarc | trh_: Yo |
23:11.18 | trh_ | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/57026-4173 |
23:11.25 | trh_ | Antiarc: flatmate got this one after leaving a group |
23:11.29 | Antiarc | trh_: On it :) |
23:11.36 | trh_ | Antiarc :) |
23:11.47 | trh_ | Antiarc: the version numbers are in the followup |
23:11.49 | Ominous | ckknight: bah, |
23:11.55 | trh_ | Antiarc: i think threat version number is wrong though ;) |
23:12.01 | trh_ | Antiarc: prolly 4 instead of a 3 |
23:12.28 | Ominous | ckknight: but but but .. then i would need to checkout the code, then i would have to work out your code, then i would have to add it in |
23:15.17 | trh_ | Antiarc: ah.. additionally he let his pet attack (warlock felhound) |
23:16.42 | ckknight | Ominous: right, for a feature you want |
23:16.53 | Ominous | ckknight: bah! |
23:17.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40422 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - :Open can now override values if inheriting. |
23:17.15 | Ominous | ckknight: you added the GC difference feature =P |
23:17.43 | dodgizzla | Hey, here's a nifty addon idea |
23:17.53 | dodgizzla | When somebody dies, target them and /gloat |
23:17.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40423 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - :OpenMenu() will now show on the cursor if frame and minimapFrame are hidden. |
23:17.57 | dodgizzla | and retarget last target :D |
23:18.26 | trh_ | dodgizzla: targetting = impossible if not in raid/party, and even in raid/party hard |
23:18.29 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's spectacular |
23:18.38 | hyperChipmunk | make sure you gloat about 50 times too |
23:18.49 | hyperChipmunk | so you fit in with the rest of the retard kiddies |
23:19.11 | dodgizzla | trh_: :\\\ |
23:19.13 | hyperChipmunk | also, you don't need to target for emotes |
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23:19.23 | hyperChipmunk | /gloat dodg |
23:19.37 | dodgizzla | Ah well, it's for my raid :D |
23:19.49 | trh_ | hyperChipmunk: but can you call them without secure frames? never looked into them :) |
23:20.07 | dodgizzla | People who win on threat obviously deserve /gloat :> |
23:20.40 | hyperChipmunk | Soandso dies. |
23:20.52 | hyperChipmunk | DoEmote('gloat', 'soandso') |
23:21.10 | hyperChipmunk | ah, well you'd have to get his unitid |
23:21.15 | hyperChipmunk | but if you're in a raid, that's np |
23:21.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40424 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
23:21.17 | CIA-22 | PitBull - /pitbull opens the fubar menu now (or on cursor if plugin is hidden). |
23:21.17 | CIA-22 | - call :UpdateAllUnitsMenu lazily, when the menu is opened. This should save some major CPU time, as it was being called on layout update previously. |
23:21.28 | ckknight | PitBull should be fast now |
23:21.28 | dodgizzla | Hm, /gloat <foo> does work :D |
23:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | well dur |
23:21.47 | hyperChipmunk | if you had to target to emote someone, it would totally suck |
23:23.13 | dodgizzla | I'd totally use that addon |
23:23.25 | dodgizzla | In fact, I think everybody in our raid would :D |
23:23.27 | hyperChipmunk | it'd be a waste of an addon |
23:23.34 | dodgizzla | Man that sure would be funny on a wipe :D |
23:23.41 | hyperChipmunk | just stuff two lines of code in your scratch addon |
23:24.01 | Cryect | Well I had an addon I wrote that would /mourn anyone who died |
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23:27.42 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: no such thing as a waste of an addon |
23:28.26 | hyperChipmunk | dude, two lines? |
23:28.46 | hyperChipmunk | just stick it in your scratch addon |
23:29.00 | hyperChipmunk | full blown addon is overkill for that |
23:29.16 | Cryect | you could stick it in a macro |
23:30.41 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
23:30.48 | Cryect | yep! |
23:31.08 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
23:31.19 | Cryect | hah |
23:31.26 | ckknight | :-) |
23:31.49 | Cryect | Be amusing watching you cheer for the boss and mourning your raid :-p |
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23:32.47 | dodgizzla | hehe |
23:32.48 | dodgizzla | <3 |
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23:33.12 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40425 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
23:33.12 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0: |
23:33.12 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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23:39.35 | ckknight | alright, gonna try to fix my ethernet cord |
23:39.38 | ckknight | bbiab |
23:51.32 | ZealotOnAStick | SSC raiding question: If you take out the pumping stations for doing lurker, and have scalding water, does that scalding water affect people in Watery Graves on Morogrim? |
23:52.14 | Gngsk | apparently so |
23:52.18 | Funkeh` | yes |
23:52.22 | Funkeh` | you don't want to do lurker |
23:52.36 | Gngsk | you can let the instance soft reset though |
23:53.48 | Ominous | argh ffs, hate officers |
23:55.25 | Daemona | ZealotOnAStick its not that bad |
23:55.29 | Daemona | we do that all the time |
23:55.36 | Daemona | its just 1k dmg more to the ppl in graves |
23:55.39 | Funkeh` | Daemona: don't lie. |
23:55.42 | Daemona | (2 ticks) |
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23:56.17 | ckknight_ | alright |
23:56.19 | ckknight_ | we'll so how this works |
23:56.33 | ckknight | nope, trying again |
23:58.14 | Daemona | we usually do lurker -> tidewalker -> karathress -> leotheras -> hydross -> vashj Funkeh` ;) |
23:58.59 | Funkeh` | lies |
23:59.08 | sbu | 5% lurker sucks :/ |
23:59.19 | sbu | well okay, i think kill tomorrow... ;o |
23:59.19 | Daemona | no killing lurker during spout suxx |
23:59.27 | sbu | hm, why? |
23:59.35 | bindi | same Daemona |
23:59.49 | Daemona | no loot sbu |
23:59.54 | Daemona | unless they fixed it |
23:59.55 | Daemona | or rather |
23:59.59 | Daemona | you get loot |