| 00:00.06 | Adirelle | mikma, not even tested |
| 00:00.10 | mikma | haha |
| 00:00.11 | chutwig | drycode hoooooo |
| 00:00.14 | Nickenyfiken | i got memory leaks using it |
| 00:00.21 | Nickenyfiken | just FYI |
| 00:00.29 | Adirelle | alpha stage, it doesn't spew errors |
| 00:00.30 | Kemayo | break19: I responded to your bug report on the forum. |
| 00:02.45 | Kemayo | break19: I think the fix I made might resolve your problem, just by virtue of it apparently happening on a redownload of a dep in the same update. |
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| 00:03.10 | Adirelle | indead, that thing is a memory hog |
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| 00:04.32 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40127 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: rewrite meteor/enrage detection system because that rebirth event is not reliable at all |
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| 00:10.35 | rophy | Mikk pong |
| 00:11.40 | Kaelten | he's mia atm I think |
| 00:12.06 | rophy | hmm |
| 00:13.52 | Funkeh` | he was here like 30min ago |
| 00:17.02 | Kaelten | ya I was talking to him and he vanished |
| 00:17.17 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40128 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: ThreatToKTM: fixed memory leak. |
| 00:17.24 | rophy | what are the differences between forkliftgnome and S&D anyway? |
| 00:19.13 | mikma | Adirelle: so... can i use ThreatToKTM with Assessment or do i have to use Omen? |
| 00:19.38 | Adirelle | mikma: TTK on its own should work |
| 00:19.52 | mikma | nice :) |
| 00:20.03 | Adirelle | that's how library works |
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| 00:20.17 | Adirelle | but beware, don't use it in production environment :p |
| 00:20.34 | mikma | how come |
| 00:21.14 | break19 | Kemayo: which bug, the one where it occassionally has file found errors? :) |
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| 00:21.35 | break19 | nm, i just reread it, ya fixed 2 at once |
| 00:21.47 | break19 | <- needs to l2reading.comprehension |
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| 00:26.07 | KarlThePagan | lol wut "ThreatToKTM" oh this is great stuff |
| 00:26.19 | KarlThePagan | I love the double-entendre |
| 00:26.27 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40130 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: Threat-1.0: typo fix |
| 00:26.28 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40129 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Gluth: more cleanup |
| 00:26.28 | Kalman| | Hahaha. |
| 00:26.42 | Kalman| | I doubt Adirelle meant it as anything more than descriptive, but now that you mention it... :) |
| 00:27.14 | Adirelle | hey ? |
| 00:27.43 | Adirelle | what's "double-entendre" ? |
| 00:28.00 | Starinnia | lol... funny stuff |
| 00:28.13 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:28.31 | break19 | wtf is wrong with my svn *kicks his svn client* |
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| 00:29.27 | KarlThePagan | ~tell Adirelle about wikipedia double entendre |
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| 00:29.35 | KarlThePagan | hmm |
| 00:29.35 | break19 | chucks-ibook-g4:~ break19$ svn cp http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/svn/trunk wowacepy |
| 00:29.39 | break19 | svn: '.' is not a working copy |
| 00:29.41 | break19 | svn: Can't open file '.svn/entries': No such file or directory |
| 00:29.42 | break19 | wtf am i doin wrong? |
| 00:29.43 | KarlThePagan | ~wikipedia double entendre |
| 00:29.53 | KarlThePagan | ok so purl isn't as advanced as javabot |
| 00:30.29 | KarlThePagan | hmm |
| 00:30.32 | Adirelle | KarlThePagan: I received a msg from purl |
| 00:30.39 | KarlThePagan | ~tell KarlThePagan about wikipedia double entendre |
| 00:30.43 | Adirelle | so I think it worked |
| 00:30.53 | KarlThePagan | ah it did |
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| 00:30.57 | Adirelle | funny |
| 00:31.07 | KarlThePagan | the feedback said "told KarlThePagan about CMD 'wikipedia double entendre'" |
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| 00:31.18 | KarlThePagan | I was worried that it would be something cryptic |
| 00:31.20 | Adirelle | entendre means to listen in french, but "double entendre" would translate to "double sens" |
| 00:31.45 | KarlThePagan | hence the phrase "in one sense" |
| 00:31.52 | Primer | entender means "understand" in Portuguese |
| 00:31.57 | Primer | and EspaƱol |
| 00:32.04 | Adirelle | and indead, I was descriptive, but the other sense is really funny :D |
| 00:32.10 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 00:32.36 | Adirelle | in fact, I'm smiling stupidly in front of my screen |
| 00:33.09 | Adirelle | (as each time I smile in front of my screen I gues) |
| 00:36.37 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 00:37.47 | CIA-22 | 03thrillseeker * r40131 10GrindStatus/modules/Battlegrounds.lua: GrindStatus: deDE localization - Warsong faction name |
| 00:38.08 | *** part/#wowace xystic (n=glen@c210-49-9-122.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 00:39.23 | KarlThePagan | wow I didn't realize how long this had been going on - |
| 00:39.28 | KarlThePagan | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/?cpage=11 |
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| 00:40.12 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlThePagan: the kenco vs logic and reason bit? heh yeah, thats been going on a bit |
| 00:40.55 | Funkeh` | let it die |
| 00:41.21 | KarlThePagan | yea... actually it looks like it started with "killmore" complaining about it using 10% cpu in ironforge |
| 00:41.23 | KarlThePagan | yea don't post |
| 00:41.26 | KarlThePagan | or kael will cry |
| 00:41.28 | Starinnia | I think the Curse peoples are getting upset :P |
| 00:41.30 | KarlThePagan | but read it... |
| 00:41.34 | KarlThePagan | LEGENDARY THREAD |
| 00:42.00 | Starinnia | never seen so many green posts in one place... |
| 00:42.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i havn't posted even once, i just make snarky comments in here. :P |
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| 00:48.29 | Adirelle | something's wrong with : self:ScheduleRepeatingEvent('ThreatToKTM_Broadcast', 1, self.Broadcast, self) ? |
| 00:48.41 | Cyrez | lol, I like how r40130 came before r40129. |
| 00:48.54 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: i wouldn't say I'm "infamous"...I think "in-famous" would be more accurate |
| 00:49.05 | Josh_Borke | lol hyperChipmunk |
| 00:49.13 | Josh_Borke | it's ok, you can toot your own horn |
| 00:49.23 | kenlyric | infamous... it's like... more than famous. |
| 00:49.34 | kenlyric | damn, it's been too long since I've seen that movie |
| 00:49.38 | break19 | oh boy.. filesystem errors |
| 00:49.38 | Kaelten | :P |
| 00:49.53 | break19 | time to reboot off a cd. bbl |
| 00:49.57 | hyperChipmunk | maybe "unfamous" |
| 00:51.34 | ckknight | nonfamous |
| 00:51.35 | Kalman| | Cryect: <3 comparison. |
| 00:51.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Josh_Borke: oh, he does, all the time. wink wink. nudge nudge. |
| 00:51.47 | hyperChipmunk | also, I spent two hours setting up the "Take Selected" thingy in BulkMail2Inbox, and it turns out it can't work at all in my current "take all" routine >8\ |
| 00:52.17 | hyperChipmunk | they don't stay put |
| 00:53.00 | hyperChipmunk | I set an index as 'checked', and the index changes as i take other items out |
| 00:54.11 | Adirelle | night |
| 00:54.24 | CIA-22 | 03akx * r40132 10Cartographer_HeatMap/ (. Cartographer_HeatMap.toc HeatMap.lua): Cartographer_HeatMap: Initial import. Hoping I don't break anything. :F |
| 00:54.30 | hyperChipmunk | i had all the nice visuals too |
| 00:54.49 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40133 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: ThreatToKTM: actually send something. |
| 00:54.51 | hyperChipmunk | AKX: dude, comment you initial imports |
| 00:55.01 | AKX | Eh. Sorry. |
| 00:55.14 | AKX | It's 3:55 AM, I've been coding that addon for the last 10 hours or so. |
| 00:55.16 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, seriously. |
| 00:55.29 | hyperChipmunk | don't you want to let us know what it does though? =) |
| 00:55.38 | Xuerian | hyperChipmunk: What are you speaking of, "COMMENT" |
| 00:55.50 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40134 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (Faerlina.lua Maexxna.lua Noth.lua): BigWigs_Naxxramas: tweaks & cleanups |
| 00:55.51 | AKX | Sure. It creates a "heat map" of your movements in each zone and overlays them on the map. |
| 00:56.01 | hyperChipmunk | Xuerian: good practice is for initial imports to tell you what they do |
| 00:56.04 | hyperChipmunk | haha that's sweet |
| 00:56.06 | Xuerian | AKX: Does it werk. |
| 00:56.08 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: re: take selected, can't you er.. mathematically recalculate what the new index is based on what you're taking, though? |
| 00:56.12 | AKX | Yes, Xuerian. It werksferme. |
| 00:56.21 | Xuerian | hyperChipmunk: U R DOIN IT WRONG |
| 00:56.33 | Xuerian | I've been infected by 4chan :( |
| 00:56.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Actually, good practice is to write useful comments on -any- commit, telling what you changed. maybe also why,, but that's sometimes overkill. |
| 00:56.45 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: I sacced tracking for speed =x |
| 00:56.48 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
| 00:56.48 | *** part/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 00:56.50 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Of course |
| 00:57.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i loath commits that just say "bugfixes" its like, well WHAT bugfixes. |
| 00:57.09 | AKX | Well, I'm terribly sorry, and you can flog and whip me now.. but I'm having troubles keeping my eyes open |
| 00:57.10 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: With some insults tossed in for good measure |
| 00:57.16 | AKX | Let alone writing comments... |
| 00:57.17 | hyperChipmunk | mine goes as fast as it can and starts over until there's a pass without stuff to take |
| 00:57.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: insults always have a place in commit messages. ;) |
| 00:57.23 | Xuerian | amen. |
| 00:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | I don't actually know which pass an item gets taken |
| 00:57.50 | AKX | How often is files.wowace.com updated? |
| 00:57.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: well then you have an obvious dilemma :P |
| 00:57.56 | NightHawkTheSane | AKX: 20m intervals |
| 00:58.00 | AKX | Nifty. |
| 00:58.00 | Xuerian | oh noez, heatmap not on /files yet! >.< |
| 00:58.05 | NightHawkTheSane | I think it's on 20/40/00 |
| 00:58.05 | hyperChipmunk | AKX: :00 :20 :40 i think |
| 00:58.21 | AKX | hyperChipmunk sorted that list, NightHawkTheSane didn't. Hm. ;P |
| 00:58.41 | AKX | Xuerian, if you're able to test it now, let me know if it fails utterly |
| 00:58.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I sorted it, it was 20/40/60, i just did mod60 math afterward :P |
| 00:58.45 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: but I made the UI so spiffy >8( |
| 00:59.20 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40135 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: bugfix - /pat NightHawkTheSane |
| 00:59.24 | Xuerian | AKX: Loading wow now |
| 00:59.28 | AKX | Also, what is the practical use for Vista's LIEK REALLY HUEG icons? |
| 00:59.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Funkeh` |
| 00:59.33 | purl | runs at Funkeh` with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 00:59.43 | AKX | I mean, these are like... 256x256. |
| 00:59.45 | hyperChipmunk | for those of us who don't run windows to laugh at |
| 00:59.54 | Wixi | what is Cartographer_HeatMap? |
| 00:59.56 | Xuerian | hyperChipmunk: Oh, you mean like osx? |
| 01:00.17 | Xuerian | Wixi: It relates amount of travel to a 'thermal' overlay on the map |
| 01:00.18 | hyperChipmunk | well, i was gonna take potshots from my linux box, but to each his own |
| 01:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | AKX: 256? wow, thats.. absurd. |
| 01:00.35 | Wixi | intriguing.. i'll check that out when i get home |
| 01:01.12 | AKX | Well Xuerian? Does it work?! |
| 01:01.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: osx's icons only go up to 192 i think. :P Not that I use anything bigger than like 96 |
| 01:01.18 | Xuerian | AKX: Does this have decay or is it simply additive? -- 70% loaded |
| 01:01.24 | AKX | Decay |
| 01:01.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Er, rather, they go up to 128, and I use 48. *just checked* |
| 01:01.59 | Xuerian | AKX: Little yellow squares, seems to work :p |
| 01:01.59 | AKX | http://i17.tinypic.com/4q8vn5z.jpg <-- hueg vista |
| 01:02.03 | AKX | Yay Xuerian! ^^ |
| 01:02.10 | Xuerian | Win. |
| 01:02.16 | AKX | Now configure it to use the HeatMap color scheme (Carto -> HeatMap -> Map Style) |
| 01:02.22 | AKX | *HeatAdafsdgfsdtgi |
| 01:02.26 | AKX | <-- tired. |
| 01:03.13 | AKX | And for extra visual spiffiness, turn the Tick Rate down to, 0.1 or something, to make the squares fade smoothly in... |
| 01:03.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: can you grab a screenie after running around for a bit? |
| 01:03.29 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Sure. It'd be more impressive for someone with a mount to do it though :p |
| 01:03.40 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40136 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Faerlina: bugfix :/ |
| 01:03.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: lol |
| 01:03.49 | Kaelten | bbiab |
| 01:04.04 | AKX | Sigh. Now I have... 4 addons I should maintain at WoWAce. :P |
| 01:04.05 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd do it i suppose, but I'm lazy and don't feel like downloading it and logging in. |
| 01:04.17 | Xuerian | AKX: What about a slightly faded texture instead of sharp blocks? |
| 01:04.17 | hyperChipmunk | look how spiffy it could have been: http://69.14.77.214/bmmarking.png >8( |
| 01:04.35 | AKX | Xuerian, I'm currently using :SetTexture(r,g,b,a) |
| 01:04.40 | AKX | But of course it's possible. |
| 01:04.45 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: um, spiffy? |
| 01:04.58 | AKX | And NightHawkTheSane: yes, it is absurd: http://i17.tinypic.com/4q8vn5z.jpg |
| 01:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | AKX: yes, i saw the first time you linked. :) |
| 01:05.27 | AKX | You didn't comment, so I couldn't be sure. :) |
| 01:05.28 | hyperChipmunk | is that not spiffy? |
| 01:05.30 | ckknight | AKX: why so large? |
| 01:05.34 | AKX | ckknight, because Vista can! |
| 01:05.58 | AKX | (Though, neatly enough, the folder files are real thumbnails from the contents.) |
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| 01:06.05 | Recluse | i have my copy of vista sitting next to me. scared to install it lol |
| 01:06.28 | break19 | hey Kemayo.. using the svn of wowacepy.. "NameError: global name 'self__real_dependency' is not defined" |
| 01:06.40 | sdouble | hyperChipmunk, I vote that as "Damn spiffy" |
| 01:06.44 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r40137 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 01:06.44 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:06.44 | CIA-22 | - Fixed bug in loot browser |
| 01:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | are we gonna have to change HUGE LIEK PS3 to HUGE LIEK VISTA ICONS? |
| 01:07.13 | Xuerian | AKX: Rofl |
| 01:07.16 | hyperChipmunk | sdouble: too bad it can't work >8\ |
| 01:07.25 | sdouble | =[ |
| 01:08.05 | break19 | Recluse: get a real OS, not some half-baked shell of an OS with so much outdated code it makes univac look modern :p |
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| 01:08.57 | Recluse | break19: as in? I run a linux flavor on my laptop.. though lately i've been debating going mac - and i told myself i'd never go mac >.> |
| 01:09.14 | break19 | Recluse: I told myself that several years ago as well. |
| 01:09.20 | break19 | and I did anway |
| 01:09.23 | break19 | anyway* |
| 01:09.35 | Ominous | how far is threat away from "stable beta" status |
| 01:09.42 | Recluse | seems mac keeps catching my eye more often lately |
| 01:09.50 | Xuerian | http://i18.tinypic.com/63au7fp.jpg |
| 01:10.07 | sdouble | i have a g5 mouse... =P |
| 01:10.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: your windows on your second screen confuse me. |
| 01:10.54 | Xuerian | :) |
| 01:11.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: also, jesus what fucked up font are you using in irc? :P |
| 01:11.17 | Xuerian | for names or text? :P |
| 01:11.24 | NightHawkTheSane | names |
| 01:11.33 | NightHawkTheSane | the text looks kinda normal at least |
| 01:11.42 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: so, when you go intel, can I have your g5? :) |
| 01:11.50 | Xuerian | Wintermute |
| 01:12.04 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: haha. like hell, my G5's going to be my BT/iTunes/IRC/Adium box :P |
| 01:12.07 | break19 | <- G4 ibook :P |
| 01:12.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: it scares and confuses me. |
| 01:12.25 | Recluse | that screenshot reminds me of that pathing addon i keep dreaming of |
| 01:12.29 | Xuerian | I likey :p |
| 01:12.34 | Xuerian | Recluse: ? |
| 01:12.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: you scare and confuse me. ;) |
| 01:12.51 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: You flatter me. |
| 01:13.09 | AKX | Xuerian, why Comic Sans? ;_; |
| 01:13.22 | sdouble | Comic Sans makes me want to cry |
| 01:13.25 | AKX | ^ |
| 01:13.28 | Xuerian | AKX: I don't like sharp fonts for normal reading, ugly or not |
| 01:13.34 | AKX | http://www.bancomicsans.com/ |
| 01:13.41 | sdouble | haha |
| 01:13.43 | Xuerian | http://i18.tinypic.com/63au7fp.jpg better heat shot |
| 01:13.51 | Xuerian | ah |
| 01:13.51 | Xuerian | bah |
| 01:13.52 | Xuerian | wrong one |
| 01:13.53 | Recluse | Xuerian: Like an advanced version of /way in cartographer. Set up user-defined points on a map and connect them with lines on minimap/worldmap. Completely sharable with other users of course. |
| 01:14.04 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: when the wife and I got the pair of laptops, we were stuck in a fema trailer, and I was drivin long-haul.. no room for a real computer.. now, we both wish we'd waited til we finalized on the house we're livin in.. but all our bills were set up online etc, we HAD to have net.. but in hindsight, we could've simply gone to my mothers to pay bills etc |
| 01:14.08 | Xuerian | Recluse: Nice. |
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| 01:14.28 | hyperChipmunk | AKX: suggestion: make the textures squares instead of circles, and only use a square if its surrounding 8 are all colored in |
| 01:14.33 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 01:14.36 | hyperChipmunk | other way around |
| 01:14.50 | AKX | Mm, yeah, hyperChipmunk, I thought about that. |
| 01:15.01 | AKX | But hey, this is version 0.1. |
| 01:15.08 | hyperChipmunk | i know |
| 01:15.10 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 01:15.17 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: *nod* i've often considered getting a laptop, for the few times I travel, but they're so limited compared to desktop machines :\ |
| 01:15.30 | AKX | NightHawkTheSane, I play WoW on a laptop. D: |
| 01:15.34 | AKX | It works better than on my desk. |
| 01:15.38 | Recluse | Xuerian: Thus you could create paths on your map/minimap to follow, or send to others so they can thread their way through terrain, or follow your concocted farming paths for mine/herb nodes, or even to show strategy in a limited sense |
| 01:15.52 | AKX | Recluse, or draw obscenities. |
| 01:15.55 | Xuerian | Recluse: That's a pretty awesome idea :P |
| 01:15.56 | Xuerian | X |
| 01:15.57 | Xuerian | XD* |
| 01:16.10 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 01:16.15 | AKX | anyways, 4:16 am says AKX is going to sleep. |
| 01:16.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: and yeah, we would draw obscenities. I mean, thats all doodle is used for. ;) |
| 01:16.33 | AKX | Enjoy mapping your heat. |
| 01:16.34 | Xuerian | 'night AKX :P |
| 01:16.36 | hyperChipmunk | AKX: Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged style |
| 01:16.46 | Xuerian | unf unf unf UNF UNF UNF MAP HARDER |
| 01:16.47 | AKX | Teheheh |
| 01:16.50 | AKX | Xuerian, well yeah |
| 01:16.50 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: I dont need doodle for that ( .Y .) |
| 01:16.57 | Recluse | Xuerian: I actually spoke with the Gatherer people about it because the first idea for myself was to use it for farming herbs, but there are several functions it could be applied to. Too bad I'm poor at Lua :p |
| 01:16.58 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: lol |
| 01:17.01 | hyperChipmunk | Wowmapper the Infinitely Prolonged! |
| 01:17.08 | Xuerian | Recluse: Program otherwise? |
| 01:17.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40138 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: |
| 01:17.10 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Layouts/ABF - change the way texts are created and the way the DB is shaped. |
| 01:17.10 | CIA-22 | This is in preparation for arbitrary texts later. |
| 01:17.13 | AKX | Xuerian, "heat shot" made me think night elf cat druidesses in springtime. "Kitties Gone Wild 31". |
| 01:17.18 | ckknight | hey, CIA works |
| 01:17.20 | break19 | rofl |
| 01:17.20 | Xuerian | Haha |
| 01:17.34 | Xuerian | feral ftw |
| 01:17.38 | Arrowmaster | need something that uses guild possitions to draw a fading line of where you guildmates have been, so you can see who runs laps around major cities more often |
| 01:17.49 | Xuerian | lol |
| 01:17.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 01:18.01 | AKX | Arrowmaster, HeatMap has the drawing API. |
| 01:18.13 | AKX | It's.. actually rather trivial to change the data source now. |
| 01:18.21 | Diao | lol |
| 01:18.22 | AKX | Should make it pluggable in best case.... |
| 01:18.34 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r54h77.res.gatech.edu) |
| 01:18.35 | AKX | But really, damn you people. Good night! :D |
| 01:18.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: or, better yet, get several people to sync up their movements and draw obscenities on guildmates maps. |
| 01:18.41 | Recluse | Xuerian: I know a bit about true languages like c++ and older things of course. However my current skills are in nothing more than advanced PHP & other web related things. |
| 01:19.05 | Xuerian | Recluse: My forte is php (eugh), and I picked up lua in a few days. It's not a big challenge :p |
| 01:19.06 | break19 | in all honesty, my military fondness made me think of "Load H.E.A.T.!, FIRE!" |
| 01:19.26 | break19 | High Explosive Anti Tank round, fyi :) |
| 01:19.45 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 01:19.50 | JoshBorke | so, uh, what's different about c++ and lua? why is one "true" and the other not "true"? |
| 01:20.08 | Recluse | Xuerian: Such an addon like the dream I mentioned is a possibility, I assume? |
| 01:20.23 | break19 | JoshBorke: lua is an interpreted language, and, as such, relegated to "untrue" status |
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| 01:20.29 | Xuerian | Recluse: It's already basically in there, you set /way with cart and it keeps a stack |
| 01:20.38 | Xuerian | Just have to save the stack/draw it on the map |
| 01:20.56 | NightHawkTheSane | as long as you're connecting the points yourself, its trivial. |
| 01:21.08 | NightHawkTheSane | if you want to automate connecting points, then you've got real problems. |
| 01:21.31 | Xuerian | Heeeeee's back |
| 01:21.34 | JoshBorke | break19: so only compiled languages are considered true? |
| 01:21.43 | break19 | JoshBorke: by most programmers, ya |
| 01:21.55 | JoshBorke | ok, thanks, was just curious |
| 01:22.19 | Recluse | NightHawk: automate? |
| 01:22.23 | break19 | hey rophy |
| 01:22.43 | Thrae | JoshBorke: If you like Lua and want to go into a compiled language, take a look at D. |
| 01:22.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: ie - define a set of points, and then have the mod connect the dots in the shortest path. |
| 01:23.23 | JoshBorke | thrae: but i like the masochistic abuse of programming in C |
| 01:23.23 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Technically it shouldn't be that hard 0_o |
| 01:23.24 | Thrae | Well, I do too ;) |
| 01:23.28 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: meh, i don't really think compiled vs interpreted makes a language better/worse/true/untrue |
| 01:23.34 | rophy | hi break19 |
| 01:23.55 | Recluse | NightHawk: Sort of, but what my conceptual version would do for me is allow you to edit a list, maybe insert a point in an already existant path, but it would only connect them in the order you manually provide. |
| 01:23.56 | JoshBorke | if only everything were as strict as C, we might have good programs |
| 01:24.24 | simeng | there are compilators for java and basic you know :p |
| 01:24.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: yeah, thats basically trivial, as you're just defining points AND an order to progress them. |
| 01:24.31 | simeng | *compilers |
| 01:24.33 | break19 | rophy: i was hoping my problems with the java updater were related to some filesystem errors I was havin, but, alas, after a disk repair, it still exists :/ |
| 01:25.27 | ckknight | JoshBorke: C, strict? don't make me laugh |
| 01:25.38 | ckknight | JoshBorke: C is weakly typed |
| 01:25.43 | Recluse | NightHawk: Right. I understand that the automation you refer to could be useful/cool, but would be completely unnecessary afaik. I understand what you mean though now. |
| 01:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: *nod* well, i just mention it because it's been brought up before. And not just unnecessary, it's almost unfeasible :P |
| 01:26.54 | sdouble | java updater? |
| 01:27.00 | Thrae | ckknight: Perhaps JoshBorke means that C is a much more challenging environment because you need to do everything yourself, compared to C++, D, and non-compiled languages |
| 01:27.30 | ckknight | in all honestly, I don't buy the argument that harder languages make better code overall |
| 01:28.13 | JoshBorke | well, in my stupid opinion, harder languages force you to use your brain more, which typically means better code, but it could lead to just as bad code |
| 01:28.35 | Thrae | Harder languages can make better coders and better code, but only if you can master them. Remember that compiled languages are, nowadays, really reserved for tasks where you need the extra speed and flexibility working natively provides. |
| 01:28.51 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40139 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Thaddius: cleanups |
| 01:28.55 | Thrae | Otherwise, you're better off with Java, Lua, Perl, etc. |
| 01:29.06 | JoshBorke | but damn if i don't <3 lua |
| 01:29.19 | Xuerian | I believe we all love lua. |
| 01:29.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I honestly don't think there's any correlation between the (largely perceived) difficulty of a language vs the quality of code created for it. |
| 01:29.52 | simeng | well, php is a great example |
| 01:29.55 | ckknight | Thrae: if you master any language, the code will be good. |
| 01:30.05 | simeng | in why that is true in some cases |
| 01:30.13 | Thrae | ckknight: Not as good as what you can do natively. |
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| 01:30.33 | sdouble | I loves me some Java and PHP. Haven't had a chance to mess around with lua yet. |
| 01:30.33 | ckknight | Thrae: not talking about natively. Talking about difficulty |
| 01:30.50 | Xuerian | sdouble: You are a enigma. |
| 01:31.04 | Xuerian | Well, you aren't. But I like to say it anyway. |
| 01:31.32 | sdouble | hehh |
| 01:31.33 | Thrae | ckknight: And I'm talking about speed and flexibility vs ease of coding and maintenance. |
| 01:31.58 | ckknight | I don't understand the vs. there |
| 01:32.10 | ckknight | those concepts aren't counter to each other |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40140 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-22 | - overrideEvents are now stored in the resulting table |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-22 | - Added ParseConcat phase |
| 01:33.06 | Kemayo | break19: Ooops. :D I've committed a fix for that. I forgot a ., is all. |
| 01:33.31 | Thrae | ckknight: The closer you get to assembly, the more speed and flexibility you are left with. However, the coding becomes harder, and so does maintenance as your code becomes bigger and more complex. |
| 01:33.43 | ckknight | oh, speed of the code itself |
| 01:33.59 | ckknight | granted, with JIT'ing, the argument changes |
| 01:34.01 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40141 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:34.01 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 01:34.01 | CIA-22 | - BarInterface now handles events to flag force updates, so removed those ALWAYSUPDATE tags |
| 01:34.46 | Thrae | ckknight: Java, Lua, Perl -- these all have excellent interpreters and virtual machiens. However, they cannot compare to something that's coded well for a very specific task where the speed and flexibility are needed, and they're not made to do so. |
| 01:34.48 | syeren | How go your Pitbull Optimizations ckknight? |
| 01:35.11 | ckknight | syeren: quite well, raid changes take up theoretically 1/40 of the time they did previously |
| 01:35.23 | ckknight | it's 1/members, actually |
| 01:35.41 | break19 | Kemayo: heh ok |
| 01:36.01 | Thrae | ckknight: It's not necessarily about parsing speed, it's about the speed overall of the existing framework of an interpreted / virtual machine vs doing -everything- yourself, or using libraries designed for your -specific- task. |
| 01:36.05 | Kemayo | I was coding the change up from work, so I didn't have a WoW install around to test it on.... |
| 01:36.09 | ckknight | Thrae: let's take Java for instance. If Java were compiled (through JIT or what have you) down to the lowest level, would it not be quite fast? |
| 01:36.13 | Kemayo | I'm a terrible employee. |
| 01:36.22 | ckknight | Kemayo: lol. |
| 01:36.26 | Kemayo | But they pay me crap, so my conscience doesn't bug me. :D |
| 01:37.23 | art3mis | even if they didnt pay you crap it should bug you |
| 01:37.24 | break19 | ckknight: so updates of more, are actually faster.. amazing :p |
| 01:37.35 | art3mis | shouldnt |
| 01:38.00 | ckknight | break19: well, actually before I had to do #members updates, now I just have to do 1 and shift all the other guys around as need be |
| 01:38.21 | Thrae | ckknight: It's about well-made code for a specific task. There's a reason games like World of Warcraft can't be relably made in Java ;) |
| 01:38.24 | ckknight | which means raid changes take O(1) instead of O(n) |
| 01:38.25 | art3mis | whenever you work take what you get paid for your skilled labour and multiply it by 6 and thats the BASE pay of the upper managment that takes credit for all that you do without having any marketable skills accept being able to schmooze |
| 01:38.30 | break19 | ckknight: I know, I'm just bein annoyingly literal :p |
| 01:38.33 | ckknight | Thrae: yet. |
| 01:38.44 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40142 10OneView/OneView.toc: OneView - TOC change X-Embeds and OptDeps from FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua to just plain ol FuBarPlugin-2.0. |
| 01:38.49 | JoshBorke | wtf, why is carto taking up so much CPU time? i can't even tell if the herbalism module is on |
| 01:39.04 | *** join/#wowace Lopen (n=Lopen@c-68-62-27-3.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:39.06 | JoshBorke | or what could be doing it |
| 01:39.08 | art3mis | JoshBorke: because ckk made it |
| 01:39.15 | sdouble | Chrome was made in Java wasn't it? (Never played it, but it was a big game for it's time) |
| 01:39.16 | art3mis | that means automatically its nymbia's fault |
| 01:39.33 | ckknight | Thrae: I seriously think that as JIT'ing gets better, faster, etc. the viability of 3D games being made in a managed language can become an available choice |
| 01:39.48 | Thrae | I think it'll be a long time before Java is up to doing MMORPGs -- not only do you need to worry about an advanced networking engine, each new MMORPG comes with a more powerful graphics, sound, etc. engine. |
| 01:39.59 | JoshBorke | ckknight: what about high performance computing? |
| 01:40.00 | ckknight | Thrae: especially since a lot of the hard code (e.g. graphics, physics) can be handled by finely-tuned libraries |
| 01:40.07 | Thrae | ckknight: Oh I'm sure one day it'll be viable, but I don't think it'll be anytime soon. |
| 01:40.09 | Kemayo | I've gotten so much picker about correct OptDeps since I started printing warnings about unfulfillable ones... |
| 01:40.13 | break19 | ckknight: the problem is, no matter HOW fast JIT, its still slower than already-compiled code. |
| 01:40.15 | ckknight | JoshBorke: ever do any research into Fortress? ;-) |
| 01:40.24 | ckknight | break19: so let's do AOT |
| 01:40.55 | ckknight | Thrae: I'm guessing 6 years or so, depending |
| 01:41.05 | break19 | ckknight: it still takes processing power to compile the code when it could already BE compiled and running |
| 01:41.14 | ckknight | break19: thus I suggested AOT. |
| 01:41.40 | sdouble | yeah, Chrome was Java. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/chrome/index.html?tag=result;title;0 1-32 player FPS |
| 01:42.30 | break19 | here's how I could see it working at full speed, however.. the first time the program is executed, or even installed, all code would then be compiled and saved to disk.. and then, it could be executed as a standard-compiled app |
| 01:42.51 | ckknight | Thrae: MS's XNA game framework is all Managed |
| 01:43.07 | ckknight | break19: right, AOT is typically done on install |
| 01:43.15 | ckknight | break19: compiles it for the specific processor |
| 01:44.24 | break19 | the only foreseeable problem I can think of: it'll make tech support a pain in the ass.. is the problem with the compiler? or the code? since the company cant really control the compiler tech support will become a relic of the past.. all tech support depts will simply tell their customers "aint our fault, update your compiler, it's all their fault" |
| 01:44.26 | Kemayo | Oh, anyone who was using my WoW SciTE API file, I updated it to include the Widget API as well: http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/files/scite_wow_api.zip |
| 01:44.29 | Thrae | ckknight: It works on Linux and Macs or it doesn't count! :D |
| 01:44.37 | ckknight | lol. |
| 01:44.40 | ckknight | Mono? |
| 01:44.58 | ZealotOnAStick | guys, what's the command to make a pet attack a target in a macro? |
| 01:45.04 | ckknight | but srsly, Thrae, most apps use DirectX, do they not count since they only run on Windows? :-P |
| 01:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: /petattack |
| 01:45.18 | Thrae | ZealotOnAStick: /attack pet |
| 01:45.26 | Thrae | ckknight: Yes! |
| 01:45.32 | art3mis | ckknight: the still count mostly because with the dx engine you get opengl support |
| 01:45.36 | art3mis | err they |
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| 01:46.44 | Xuerian | Chrome2 looks like it would've been cool, but seems like it died, only media was from may 06 |
| 01:46.57 | break19 | ZealotOnAStick: thrae is wrong, NightHawkTheSane is right. |
| 01:49.02 | Thrae | I just wanted him to attack his pet! |
| 01:49.38 | art3mis | martial heroes is fun |
| 01:49.55 | art3mis | should figure out a way to make addons for it ;P |
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| 01:51.55 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40143 10AuctionLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:51.55 | CIA-22 | AuctionLib: initial commit |
| 01:51.55 | CIA-22 | - Provides a library for accessing auction data and pricing from various Auction Data mods |
| 01:53.46 | kenlyric | o.O |
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| 02:03.03 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40144 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Heigan.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Heigan: cleanups |
| 02:03.27 | kirr | :O heigan! |
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| 02:04.57 | Lywellyn | Question: I'm using tortoiseSVN to checkout from the wowace branches. I checked out one addon: I had it pull externals the first time (because obviously it'd need them) but now I don't know how to turn it off so that it doesn't check them every time I update from the SVN. |
| 02:07.08 | Kemayo | Lywellyn: Once you've updated with externals in it'll check those ones you've checked out every time. You can stop it checking for *new* externals by using the "update to revision" dialog and checking "omit externals". |
| 02:07.58 | *** join/#wowace kbh (n=Kneebrac@65.183.172.135) |
| 02:09.17 | Xuerian | Lywellyn: Or just delete the externals after you update, it won't care |
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| 02:10.45 | Dotted | who is the current author of SMM? |
| 02:11.19 | Dotted | Shamino sexy lib |
| 02:12.14 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40145 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Horsemen: cleanups |
| 02:12.30 | Shamino | :) |
| 02:14.06 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: BulkMail2Inbox doesn't update the tablet if I pick something up by shift-clicking it in the Inbox... |
| 02:14.25 | hyperChipmunk | i fixed that yesterday =\ |
| 02:15.16 | hyperChipmunk | what rev. you using? |
| 02:15.38 | Eo | anyone here on the skinner project? |
| 02:15.55 | hyperChipmunk | Eo: ask whatever it is you need |
| 02:16.02 | hyperChipmunk | someone will help you if they can |
| 02:16.11 | Eo | can i show you the pic |
| 02:16.20 | hyperChipmunk | whatever you need =) |
| 02:16.26 | Eo | kk give me a mic |
| 02:16.28 | Eo | min* |
| 02:16.41 | Eo | lol |
| 02:16.42 | hyperChipmunk | you have the floor, sir |
| 02:16.50 | NightHawkTheSane | your moms a mic. |
| 02:17.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Eo] by hyperChipmunk |
| 02:17.18 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: your dads a mic |
| 02:17.22 | hyperChipmunk | hee hee |
| 02:17.24 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Eo] by hyperChipmunk |
| 02:17.58 | Eo | http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2913/skinnervb4.png |
| 02:18.14 | *** join/#wowace Liquidor (n=Liquid@cust-IP-104.vip.3.dk) |
| 02:18.23 | Eo | ok im using skinner and frames resized |
| 02:18.37 | Funkeh` | they probably conflict |
| 02:18.46 | hyperChipmunk | lol nice |
| 02:18.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 02:18.51 | Eo | ones i installed skinner i got that |
| 02:19.11 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wow, thats all kinds of screwed up. |
| 02:19.12 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Rev 39937. |
| 02:19.13 | Eo | I think i would more on my Ui then i do on my toon |
| 02:19.44 | Xuerian | Eo: Funkeh`is most likely right, the mods conflict |
| 02:19.45 | Eo | I can send you a pic that better if you like |
| 02:19.54 | Eo | Well i know that |
| 02:19.57 | Funkeh` | Eo, go into your skinner folder |
| 02:20.03 | Eo | kk |
| 02:20.06 | Funkeh` | then find the AddonSkins folder |
| 02:20.20 | Funkeh` | and copu framesResized.lua into the folder called SkinMe |
| 02:20.23 | Funkeh` | copy* |
| 02:20.50 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: =\ |
| 02:21.05 | hyperChipmunk | why do you suck so much |
| 02:22.25 | wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.26 | Liquidor | /msg ? to Identify ? |
| 02:22.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40146 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - :Refresh() now works without an argument |
| 02:22.59 | ckknight | Liquidor: nickserv |
| 02:23.06 | Liquidor | Thank you, ckknight |
| 02:25.12 | Eo | http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3971/skinnerwh7.jpg This is what i have now |
| 02:25.32 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Well, excuuuuuuse me, Princess. |
| 02:25.46 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40147 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua Locale/deDE.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 02:25.46 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 02:25.46 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-16-12-30 |
| 02:25.56 | Eo | Knight how do i make your map so its not full screen? |
| 02:26.28 | Birdemani | hrm |
| 02:26.30 | Funkeh` | Eo did you quit wow and statup again or just relog? |
| 02:26.37 | Birdemani | doesnt look like anyone fixed autobar? |
| 02:26.39 | Kaydeethree | hey ckk, how do I reset the position of a few pitbull frames? they got lost in an upgrade |
| 02:26.42 | ckknight | Eo: Cartographer LookNFeel |
| 02:26.43 | Eo | I quit wow and then did it |
| 02:26.50 | *** join/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:26.50 | Birdemani | autobar is causing paging issues with BT3 again |
| 02:26.52 | ckknight | Kaydeethree: drag? |
| 02:26.58 | *** join/#wowace Liquidor (n=Liquid@cust-IP-104.vip.3.dk) |
| 02:27.00 | Funkeh` | are you running the latest FramesResized? |
| 02:27.02 | Kaydeethree | they're offscreen or something |
| 02:27.19 | Eo | Yes i update 5 times day |
| 02:27.36 | Funkeh` | then go on the forum and report the issue on the skinner post |
| 02:27.46 | Eo | That what im going to do |
| 02:27.58 | Eo | i just wanted to see if he was in here |
| 02:29.07 | Funkeh` | !seen jncl |
| 02:29.07 | Diao | Last seen: No match |
| 02:29.14 | Funkeh` | thats a no |
| 02:29.49 | hyperChipmunk | ~seen jncl |
| 02:30.18 | purl | hyperChipmunk: i haven't seen 'jncl' |
| 02:30.33 | Eo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.46 | Funkeh` | purl, does hyperChipmunk suck? |
| 02:31.02 | Funkeh` | bleh |
| 02:31.26 | Eo | So find Framesreized.lua and put it into the addonskins folder and rename it Skinme |
| 02:31.59 | Eo | Right? |
| 02:32.17 | Funkeh` | thats not what i said |
| 02:32.57 | Eo | oo put it in the folder called Skinme |
| 02:32.59 | Eo | i got you |
| 02:33.04 | Funkeh` | yep |
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| 02:33.14 | Eo | doing it now |
| 02:33.29 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40148 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 02:33.29 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 02:33.29 | CIA-22 | - shows a coins icon for mail that contains only cash |
| 02:33.29 | CIA-22 | - default offset[x|y] values provided for SendQueue GUI |
| 02:33.42 | Funkeh` | omg COINS |
| 02:33.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yay COINS |
| 02:34.00 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40149 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 02:34.00 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 02:34.00 | CIA-22 | - default offset[x|y] values provided for SendQueue GUI |
| 02:34.15 | hyperChipmunk | seemed better than a checkmark |
| 02:34.17 | Dotted | ckknight ping |
| 02:34.27 | ckknight | pong |
| 02:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | i put it in because i was trying to do the take selected thing |
| 02:34.30 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 02:34.37 | hyperChipmunk | and didn't want ambiguity |
| 02:34.54 | Dotted | pm |
| 02:35.00 | NightHawkTheSane | grar, reencoding flac to mp3 takes too long |
| 02:35.29 | Funkeh` | only on your machine, it doesn't like you |
| 02:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | you're probably right |
| 02:35.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, no one likes me. /wrists |
| 02:36.22 | Eo | K I did that funkeh |
| 02:36.27 | Eo | and nothing |
| 02:36.42 | Birdemani | ok, where can i get an old version of autobar? the one on /files is the one that breaks BT3 |
| 02:37.28 | hyperChipmunk | http://files.wowace.com/AutoBar |
| 02:37.33 | NightHawkTheSane | files.wowace.net/ADDON_NAME/ |
| 02:37.55 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: aww, http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9895/haybeniceemokittehissenna3.jpg |
| 02:38.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: thats totally me, but not as cute. |
| 02:38.14 | NightHawkTheSane | er i mean, too cute |
| 02:38.16 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 02:38.28 | NightHawkTheSane | see, i can't even self-deprecate properly, /wrists :P |
| 02:39.58 | sdouble | something big change with threat 1.0? I'm with my pet and have over 400% threat compared to my voidwalker and they're still attacking the VW. It used to be MUCH closer than that. |
| 02:40.46 | wobin_ | There's a lot of fights when I'm well over the threat threshold, but the pet still holds aggro |
| 02:42.22 | *** join/#wowace Liquidor (n=Liquid@cust-IP-104.vip.3.dk) |
| 02:47.17 | sdouble | ruby on rails? |
| 02:47.44 | Dotted | Ammo ping |
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| 02:48.01 | Xuerian | sdouble: Yes |
| 02:48.12 | Dotted | or any other oRA2 author |
| 02:48.28 | sdouble | You like it? |
| 02:49.32 | Xuerian | sdouble: Trying to re-write a catalogue sort of site I have partially done in php in it, and I can't for the life of me figure out how to re-write the model accessors to allow for loose searching like I currently have, so I can go /type/partialname/ or /type/id and it'll go to the same spot |
| 02:49.39 | sdouble | One of my webhosts provides it and it's slow as hell. Really fast on my local machine obviously, but horribly slow on their server |
| 02:50.34 | Xuerian | sdouble: Heh, haven't tried it remotely yet. Though, I should just spend more time with it I think. |
| 02:51.34 | sdouble | Are you going to host it somewhere? Might want to look into that first if you already have a host. I did a whole control panel for dynamic content on my local machine, then put it out there and just the login took 10+ seconds. |
| 02:52.01 | Xuerian | sdouble: My personal hosting is on Dreamhost, and their rails support seems pretty decent |
| 02:52.13 | sdouble | I ended up redoing my whole cp in PHP. Which I love anyway, but I wanted to work with rails. |
| 02:52.20 | sdouble | haha, mine was also dreamhost |
| 02:52.23 | sdouble | 7up serv er |
| 02:52.30 | Xuerian | doheny |
| 02:52.33 | Xuerian | :p |
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| 02:52.40 | Xuerian | The one it went horribly on? |
| 02:52.45 | sdouble | yeah |
| 02:52.48 | Xuerian | Bleh.. |
| 02:53.26 | sdouble | Do something simple and try it out there and see if it'll be okay for you or not. |
| 02:53.31 | Liquidor_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKYss_eLiYo -- New murloc !! |
| 02:54.25 | sdouble | Because just the login or listing a small database took more than 10 seconds per action. |
| 02:54.31 | Xuerian | sdouble: Probably a good idea. Other consideration is I might try to market the thing, and I'm not sure how well it'll go down if it's in rails or python as far as ease of setup and maintenance |
| 02:54.42 | Xuerian | Owch. |
| 02:55.02 | sdouble | Wish I didn't cleanse it from there, I'd link you so you could see. =/ |
| 02:55.31 | Xuerian | =X |
| 02:55.35 | Xuerian | Liquidor: mpq mod? |
| 02:55.54 | Xuerian | Oh, rtfc. |
| 02:56.01 | mikma | Xuerian: it's real, blizzcon |
| 02:56.06 | Xuerian | bastards |
| 02:56.17 | mikma | the dance is cute |
| 02:56.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40150 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: |
| 02:56.28 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Layouts/ABF - allow for arbitrary creation and deletion of texts. |
| 02:56.28 | CIA-22 | - make all current texts just presets in the arbitrary format. |
| 02:56.37 | Xuerian | Yeah |
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| 02:59.57 | Gagorian | lool kenco post |
| 03:00.10 | Xuerian | new one? |
| 03:00.13 | ZealotOnAStick | new one? |
| 03:00.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Jinx. |
| 03:00.21 | Kaydeethree | where at? |
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| 03:00.53 | Gagorian | yes new one at the curse KTM project file |
| 03:00.57 | ckknight | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 03:01.19 | ckknight | You: KTM is very inefficient and bad. |
| 03:01.20 | ckknight | Me: Hmm... no, no i don't think so. |
| 03:01.24 | sdouble | ckknight has that bookmarked |
| 03:01.42 | ckknight | nah, I don't |
| 03:01.46 | kebinusan | probably set to recieve sms when someone posts a new comment |
| 03:01.47 | kebinusan | :-) |
| 03:02.04 | Gagorian | Actually, no bookmark, it's set to his browsers home button |
| 03:02.07 | Gagorian | :g |
| 03:02.12 | ckknight | 1%. This is my current best estimate of KTM's overall proccessor usage. If you are planning on arguing that that number is excessive, you really are wasting your time. |
| 03:02.18 | Diao | what's the CU tag |
| 03:02.20 | Diao | by kaelten's name |
| 03:02.23 | ckknight | On the other hand, if you can indicate a use case, e.g. In combat AOEing multiple mobs, where the proccessor usage becomes say 3%+, then by all means say so. Or if you can give reasonable evidence to suggest that the 1% figure is off the mark, again speak up. |
| 03:02.26 | ckknight | Diao: Curse. |
| 03:02.27 | Diao | curse admin? |
| 03:02.30 | ckknight | yep |
| 03:02.32 | Diao | ahh |
| 03:02.36 | Xuerian | Diao zomg kael works for curse :p |
| 03:02.39 | Diao | haha |
| 03:03.01 | ckknight | Kenco's post is just lame |
| 03:03.10 | ckknight | at least he doesn't fling pointed insults |
| 03:03.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: its pretty obvious he's just grasping at straws at this point. |
| 03:03.21 | ckknight | I agree |
| 03:03.27 | kebinusan | Torture the data until it confesses |
| 03:03.54 | NightHawkTheSane | he refuses to abandon his sinking ship, so he's doing whatever he can to dismiss, discredit, and redirect your claims. |
| 03:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | (your being plural, to be sure) |
| 03:04.13 | kebinusan | Thats fine, theres more than enough room and alot of people are switching to omen |
| 03:04.26 | Xuerian | proof is in the poontang |
| 03:04.39 | kebinusan | See you should post it on curse, then we can all download it a bunch to get the numbers up above ktm |
| 03:04.49 | Gagorian | lol |
| 03:04.56 | ckknight | lol, Xuerian |
| 03:05.05 | ckknight | kebinusan: not yet. |
| 03:05.17 | Gagorian | 3 mill downloads is a long way to go, though |
| 03:05.18 | Gagorian | ! |
| 03:05.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40151 10/trunk/ (Auction-1.0/ AuctionLib/): .Moving AuctionLib to Auction-1.0 for Shamino |
| 03:07.33 | Gagorian | Tbh, all Kenco had to do was to say.. "I'll look into improving the performance wherever I can. If anyone can see anything that could be improved, please let me know." |
| 03:07.50 | Gagorian | -> No drama |
| 03:07.59 | kebinusan | but then we wouldnt have gotten a threatlib! |
| 03:08.09 | Xuerian | He did say that. .... Sortof... In... other words..... in... the last post.... of ten pages |
| 03:08.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40152 10Auction-1.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Auction-1.0 - fix filenames |
| 03:08.37 | ckknight | Gagorian: you're probably right |
| 03:08.40 | ckknight | Gagorian: or at least half-right |
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| 03:12.24 | ckknight | hrm, how do we respond to that without giving any flair of trolling? |
| 03:12.48 | Antiarc|Sleep | re: pet aggro. It's borked. I'll look at it when I get a chance. |
| 03:14.01 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40153 10Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0.lua: |
| 03:14.01 | CIA-22 | Auction-1.0: |
| 03:14.01 | CIA-22 | - updated header |
| 03:15.29 | Antiarc|Working | Also, lol Kenco post. |
| 03:16.01 | Antiarc|Working | "I'll listen to you if you have numbers, unless I don't like the numbers" |
| 03:16.22 | wobin_ | rofl |
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| 03:17.31 | Kaydeethree | ya. weird. partyNtargets and the MT windows aren't showing up. /ponder |
| 03:17.47 | Antiarc|Working | Also, KTM uses 1% of the CPU on all platforms and all setups all the time |
| 03:18.16 | Gagorian | Well, I can't be arsed to go through that dungpile code. Seriously, why does it need that many files with 3 lines of code? |
| 03:18.43 | Gagorian | But would be good if someone would take the time to show maybe a few functions that could be improved to show him that he's wrong. |
| 03:18.57 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40154 10Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0.lua: |
| 03:18.57 | CIA-22 | Auction-1.0: |
| 03:18.57 | CIA-22 | - set svn:keyword to "Date Rev" |
| 03:19.50 | Antiarc|Working | Gagorian: I'm gonna write a simple little test |
| 03:20.03 | Antiarc|Working | OnUpdate handler that takes the FPS and adds it to a running average over 5 minutes. |
| 03:20.12 | wobin_ | make sure you make it an addon |
| 03:20.16 | Antiarc|Working | Run that, report the average without KTM enabled, run it, report it with KTM enabled. |
| 03:20.27 | Antiarc|Working | Do the same with ThreatLib and Omen |
| 03:20.35 | wobin_ | Otherwise he'll say "Your numbers are faked cause it's not using my custom debugger" |
| 03:20.37 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r40155 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: |
| 03:20.37 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:20.37 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Race added Imp |
| 03:21.03 | wobin_ | "Which shows the -real- numbers, not the fake one Blizzard supplies!" |
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| 03:21.34 | kebinusan | hmm, I dont like these numbers, let me write my own addon to give me numbers that look better to my eyes.. Ive always like the number 3 |
| 03:21.50 | wobin_ | hm, why am I getting pitbull errors with a lack of module "Health"? |
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| 03:22.08 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: it'd be more amusing if you could use his own debugging/profiling tools to show that ktm sucks cpu |
| 03:22.40 | wobin_ | does his profiling tool show anything -but- ktm? |
| 03:22.58 | NightHawkTheSane | No idea, i don't usei t |
| 03:23.13 | Antiarc|Working | Yes, it's basically tekSupport |
| 03:23.31 | NeoTron | I used kthperformancemonitor or whatever in the past to find badly behaving addons |
| 03:23.49 | NeoTron | it helped me identify and fix some bad offendeds (enginventory comes to mind) |
| 03:24.28 | wobin_ | hehe |
| 03:25.08 | wobin_ | enginv -always- comes to mind when talking about bad addons =P |
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| 03:25.10 | NeoTron | I actually made it perform perfectly fine |
| 03:25.30 | NeoTron | it used to essentially recalculate the whole layout/sorting every time you got a buff/debuff :) |
| 03:26.01 | ckknight | wobin_: because "Health" doesn't exist anymore |
| 03:26.04 | Gagorian | wobin_: No wonder cause according to curse it hasn't been updated in 37 years |
| 03:26.12 | wobin_ | ckknight: hum |
| 03:26.17 | ckknight | changed to HealthBar |
| 03:26.19 | wobin_ | ckknight: should I be resetting something? |
| 03:26.21 | ckknight | I suggest updating |
| 03:26.22 | NeoTron | Gagorian: heh |
| 03:26.27 | wobin_ | It is =\ |
| 03:26.38 | wobin_ | version 40138 |
| 03:26.39 | NeoTron | It got abandoned quite a long time ago. I maintained, sort of, my own copy of it |
| 03:26.50 | ckknight | wobin_: where's the error coming from? |
| 03:27.05 | wobin_ | hm |
| 03:27.07 | wobin_ | ah |
| 03:27.14 | wobin_ | from the various PitBull_Banzai et al |
| 03:27.37 | ckknight | wobin_: that's been updated. Be sure to use the module inside PitBull, not the old addon |
| 03:27.47 | wobin_ | That's probably my issue |
| 03:27.55 | wobin_ | I've got the old outside ones still loading |
| 03:28.25 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r40156 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: Warlock's Master Demonologist uses Babble now |
| 03:28.47 | wobin_ | ckknight: They've all been integrated into the Pitbull package? |
| 03:28.55 | ckknight | yes |
| 03:28.57 | ckknight | a while ago |
| 03:28.59 | wobin_ | cool |
| 03:29.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40157 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add a whole bunch of text positions for the frame. |
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| 03:34.26 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40158 10EnchantingSell/ (6 files): |
| 03:34.26 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 03:34.26 | CIA-22 | - embed Auction-1.0 lib |
| 03:34.26 | CIA-22 | - implemented reagent and enchant pricing |
| 03:34.26 | CIA-22 | - default selected enchant to the first listed |
| 03:34.27 | CIA-22 | - new slash commands for setting auction pricing options |
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| 03:37.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40159 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add frame-edge stuff for text positioning. This is more for icon support later on than anything. |
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| 03:39.23 | Starinnia | Antiarc: is tracking Growl disabled in Threat right now, or is that a bug. It's only registering my pet's white damage in the threat table |
| 03:39.48 | Antiarc|Working | It's a bug |
| 03:42.00 | KarlThePagan | kenco's latest post tickles me... a lot |
| 03:42.17 | Starinnia | heh, Kenco's posts make me laugh always |
| 03:43.16 | KarlThePagan | it just makes me cry a little for everyone using KTM when he says he'll accept suggestions but he rejects the event processing & bucketing system |
| 03:44.05 | Starinnia | well, 35 fewer people will be using KTM tomorrow, making my guild switch over after Omen saved me in Gruul's |
| 03:44.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40160 10PitBull/ (Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.lua PvPIcon/PvPIcon.lua): PitBull - make the PvPIcon :SetTexCoord'd properly, thus making its layout simpler. |
| 03:44.24 | ckknight | go for the gold, Starinnia |
| 03:46.04 | Kemayo | Huh. I just tried looking at my alts with OneView for the first time in months. It still has all its data from pre-BC. It's a strange time-machine... |
| 03:46.50 | kebinusan | We've never used a threat meter before but Ive gotten a majority of our heavy dps to try out omen |
| 03:47.30 | Neebler | I don't see a need for omen when Pitbull has threat integration |
| 03:48.02 | wobin_ | Kemayo: You about? |
| 03:48.15 | wobin_ | >< |
| 03:48.43 | wobin_ | Kemayo: Could you add into wowace.py automatic running of the lod scripts? |
| 03:48.49 | sdouble | Neebler, it's easier to see it all in omen |
| 03:48.59 | mikma | wobin_: <Neebler> I don't see a need for omen when Pitbull has threat integration |
| 03:49.21 | wobin_ | mikma: ? |
| 03:49.26 | mikma | wobin_: 4 lines :D |
| 03:49.52 | wobin_ | My client integrates the lines together |
| 03:49.56 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: thank you for your anal retentive attention to detail. :) |
| 03:50.00 | wobin_ | lrn2GnomeXchat =P |
| 03:50.05 | sdouble | NOU |
| 03:50.16 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: so you lost the virginity of your chocolate side now? |
| 03:50.54 | Killmore | with /equip how I can send a weapon in the off-hand ?! |
| 03:51.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Killmore: bet its on wowwiki |
| 03:51.28 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: what in the nine hells and seven heavens are you talking about. |
| 03:51.32 | xystic | you should stop by nsb.sicware.com and invite Kenco to come to this channel - so that you can explain the deficiency in his mod to him :) |
| 03:51.37 | mikma | Killmore: http://www.wowwiki.com/Macros |
| 03:51.46 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: SURPRISE BUTTSECKS!!!1 |
| 03:52.16 | NightHawkTheSane | xystic: feel free to extend the invite :) |
| 03:52.31 | Gagorian | Killmore: /equipslot nr item |
| 03:52.31 | sdouble | I'm sure he knows about it already. He's actually probably in here somewhere. |
| 03:52.46 | Gagorian | Killmore: figure out number yourself |
| 03:52.47 | Gagorian | :p |
| 03:53.20 | mikma | aha, busted. he was eXemplar |
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| 03:53.21 | NightHawkTheSane | sdouble: yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. I'd make some not-so-witty comment about it being you, but you seem too intelligent. |
| 03:54.00 | sdouble | Don't forget the fact that I know a total of nothing about lua. |
| 03:54.11 | NightHawkTheSane | sdouble: that's not helping your case. :P |
| 03:54.26 | sdouble | heh |
| 03:54.26 | NightHawkTheSane | (zing!) |
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| 03:55.02 | Thrae | That's OK! Ace makes addons for you! Just call Ace2:MakeMyAddon( YourBloodType, ShoeSize, FavoriteFood, GreatestFear, GreatestLove ) |
| 03:55.15 | Thrae | It shall compute the best addon for you. |
| 03:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: woot! |
| 03:55.29 | Thrae | Usually I end up with Cosmos... |
| 03:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I end up with a razor that slits my character's wrists. >.> |
| 03:56.08 | Gagorian | Ace2:MakeMyAddon( YourBloodType, ShoeSize, FavoriteFood, GreatestFear, GreatestLove ) return "KTM" end |
| 03:56.09 | ckknight | Thrae: lol. |
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| 03:58.08 | sdouble | o man i dun no my shoe syz |
| 03:58.51 | Killmore | Gagorian: thx |
| 03:59.17 | FISKER_Q | i saw ckknight_ and nymbia walking in the rain :I |
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| 03:59.47 | Gagorian | I also saw FISKER_Q bubble and hearth |
| 03:59.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "We need power." "There are many forms of power, my dear. Some more subtle than others." "Well, for now we'll settle for the electrical kind." |
| 04:00.28 | ckknight | lol, NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:00.32 | ckknight | what's that from? |
| 04:00.38 | NightHawkTheSane | sg-1 |
| 04:01.12 | Thrae | SG-1 has some good quotes, but it's more hit-or-miss, kinda like Star Trek serieses ;) |
| 04:01.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 04:01.39 | NightHawkTheSane | although the middle seasons were rather good, 5ish-8 |
| 04:01.43 | kebinusan | I like babylon 5 quotes |
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| 04:02.07 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: indeed. i've got a bunch of those too. ;) |
| 04:02.10 | NightHawkTheSane | <3's b5 |
| 04:02.22 | Lyfe | hey, i don't know of a better place to ask this, and haven't been able to really experiment very well, but, does this work in a macro (not a script)? /cast [target=focus] Shackle Undead(Rank 3) |
| 04:02.32 | Thrae | Babylon 5 can't really be compared to SG-1 or StarTrek. B5 was a full drama, where SG-1 and Star Trek serieses were both episodic dramas. |
| 04:02.41 | Kaydeethree | sure. don't need the rank info |
| 04:02.42 | Gagorian | Lyfe: it should |
| 04:02.58 | Lyfe | ok, thanks. |
| 04:03.03 | Gagorian | Babylon 5 > all. |
| 04:03.07 | Lyfe | i thought i was going nuts. |
| 04:03.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: agreed. Although star trek was extremely episodic, sg-1 sort of hovered between episodic and epic in nature. |
| 04:03.37 | FISKER_Q | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1181966420197.jpg |
| 04:03.38 | FISKER_Q | :D |
| 04:03.49 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: SG-1 was more like the newer Enterprise, both episodic and epic |
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| 04:04.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: now you're just being insulting to sg-1 comparing it to enterprise :P |
| 04:04.50 | Thrae | I'm just comparing the genres, not the quality :D |
| 04:05.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: yeah, i know, i just really dislike enterprise :) |
| 04:09.13 | kebinusan | I dunno, I enjoy enterprise because of how bad it is |
| 04:09.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40161 10PitBull/CombatIcon/CombatIcon.lua: PitBull_CombatIcon - normalize the icon with SetTexCoord |
| 04:10.00 | Antiarc|Working | Oh, ya'll are going to love this. |
| 04:10.04 | Kemayo | wobin_: I could do that. It would need to be mutually exclusive with unpackaging, right? |
| 04:10.23 | wobin_ | I'm not sure =) |
| 04:10.28 | Thorgard^2 | Antiarc|Working, supriz buttsecks? |
| 04:10.46 | wobin_ | Who doesn't love surprise buttsecks? |
| 04:11.18 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: perhaps, but that's not real quality, that's fake campy quality |
| 04:11.28 | kebinusan | I wish crusade had a chance to develop more |
| 04:11.31 | kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane: yeah |
| 04:11.41 | kebinusan | same thing I love about ToS I guess |
| 04:11.44 | Thrae | "A Rogue's thin Dagger surprises you from behind! What will you do? >" |
| 04:12.09 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, ToS wasn't that bad, though. Campy, yes, but that was more because of when it was created than just bad production. |
| 04:12.11 | wobin_ | point and laugh? |
| 04:12.34 | ckknight | Thrae: "Strike back with your shillelagh. Turn to page 23." |
| 04:12.34 | Thorgard^2 | Thrae, the correct answer is 'laugh at the girth of his dagger'. |
| 04:12.53 | Thrae | I thought you were all talking about the Terms of Service for a second there. |
| 04:13.03 | kebinusan | There were some great ToS episodes though |
| 04:13.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 04:14.06 | Fisker- | oh fuck yes |
| 04:14.13 | Fisker- | Mage's Arena 2 gear sucks |
| 04:14.15 | wobin_ | "How Blizzard took on Glider and won" |
| 04:14.21 | kebinusan | ~grue |
| 04:14.21 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, grue is something you have to watch out for if you don't have a light. |
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| 04:14.25 | Fisker- | Their tears sustains me |
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| 04:15.11 | Birdemani | antiarc: been playing all week without lock ups. quit game, installed threat 1.0, enter game, enter wsg, immediate lock up |
| 04:15.24 | ckknight | odd |
| 04:15.54 | Birdemani | i played 15 wsg games last night with no lock ups as well |
| 04:16.36 | Thrae | Birdemani: [Insert Opposing Faction Here] has obviously learned how to lock up their opponents computers! Flame the Realm forums. |
| 04:17.09 | Starinnia | Thrae, it was prolly his own team :P |
| 04:17.29 | Thrae | It's always the opposing faction, even when it's not! |
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| 04:17.42 | Thrae | "The opposing faction reduced my Prot. Paladin's DPS!" |
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| 04:17.53 | Starinnia | no, you always blame the stupidity of your team |
| 04:18.15 | Starinnia | if Warlock X knew how to play his class, my DPS wouldn't be so low |
| 04:18.23 | Thrae | "My team reduced my Paladin's DPS!" |
| 04:18.32 | Thrae | How dare they require healing! |
| 04:18.45 | Thrae | lern2beimmortal |
| 04:19.21 | Starinnia | exactly |
| 04:19.32 | Antiarc|Working | http://blog.antiarc.net/2007/06/15/measuring-klh-threat-meters-impact-on-system-performance/ |
| 04:19.51 | Antiarc|Working | Hardly conclusive, but it's a start. |
| 04:19.57 | nymbia | Antiarc|Working: check the last few posts on the ktm page |
| 04:20.31 | Fisker- | oh hi nymbia |
| 04:20.32 | Fisker- | :o |
| 04:20.34 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 04:20.35 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 04:20.42 | Fisker- | noo |
| 04:20.44 | Thrae | Antiarc|Working: Isn't you measuring KTM's performance going to look like Hilary Clinton measuring the performance of George Bush? |
| 04:20.46 | Fisker- | must make my addon |
| 04:21.01 | Fisker- | i'm getting pretty pissed about him blaming the "Ace community" |
| 04:21.03 | Diao | rofl |
| 04:21.11 | Fisker- | it never had anything to do with that |
| 04:21.12 | Antiarc|Working | Thrae: Of course - that's why I included my script, system specs, running programs, complete WoW configuration, and screenshots. |
| 04:21.25 | Fisker- | and i don't give a shit about if a better threatmeter was ace or not |
| 04:21.43 | Thrae | Antiarc|Working: If average people were logical, George Bush wouldn't be president ;) |
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| 04:22.18 | Starinnia | Thrae, has the American public ever been logical? |
| 04:22.32 | Thrae | Starinnia: Mostly around the time of the founding fathers, sure |
| 04:22.43 | Kaydeethree | have the unwashed masses of any country in recent history ever been logical? |
| 04:22.47 | Thrae | Maybe when Van Buren was in office. He was cool. |
| 04:23.01 | Starinnia | Ooo, yeah Van Buren was good |
| 04:23.26 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 04:23.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Working: out of curiosity, what were you doing during these tests in wow? idling somewhere? grinding mobs? raiding? |
| 04:26.53 | Antiarc|Working | Idling, and I'm adding a note on that |
| 04:27.11 | ckknight | you may wan tto do a test about in combat |
| 04:27.25 | Antiarc|Working | Harder to keep variables constant |
| 04:28.08 | Kaydeethree | roll a level 70 a a starting zone, do some aggro-but-non-damaging move on a mob, let it beat on you for a while? |
| 04:28.54 | Kaydeethree | s/a a/to a/ |
| 04:29.14 | NightHawkTheSane | I agree with ckknight, ideally, a full on raid test would be best, but that might be difficult, it shouldn't be hard to test while chain grinding over a few minutes though. |
| 04:29.30 | Antiarc|Working | Feel free - I have other things to handle at the moment :) |
| 04:29.38 | Antiarc|Working | Script's right there, I'll add a download if you want |
| 04:30.37 | Gagorian | Kenco failed to see the point in nymbia's post it seems |
| 04:30.49 | Gagorian | not to my surprise |
| 04:31.22 | Gagorian | ROFL |
| 04:31.24 | Gagorian | omen is just a ripoff of kenco's ktm. half of the addon is a window dressed stylised copy of the original ktm. the real issue with this new copy of ktm is it does not accuratly report the targets threat list. so maby its just time for those ace kids to accept defeat and realise there is really no point trying to re-invent the lightbulb especially when this ripoff dosnt accuratly report a targets threat list. |
| 04:31.31 | Kaydeethree | ya, I saw that. lmao |
| 04:31.47 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 04:31.49 | Antiarc|Working | ...wow |
| 04:31.50 | Fisker- | What's Ace of Lunacy worth on AH? |
| 04:31.53 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:33.14 | Gagorian | Guys, let's just accept defeat. A few weeks of developing hasn't made the addon complete, thus we must've failed. |
| 04:33.22 | ckknight | gah |
| 04:33.24 | ckknight | you're right, man |
| 04:33.30 | Thorgard^2 | fux |
| 04:33.32 | ckknight | I mean, a few more days won't turn it into KTM |
| 04:33.36 | NightHawkTheSane | oh my god, my life is a failure! /wrists |
| 04:33.38 | Fisker- | haha |
| 04:33.44 | Fisker- | a few forevers wont |
| 04:33.49 | ckknight | I mean, more testing and code maturity just can't help us anymore |
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| 04:34.15 | wobin_ | thank god for nvidia's autoinstall script =P |
| 04:34.43 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: Blasphemer! How dare you even think of leaving the Church Of The Ace! |
| 04:35.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: well, its obvious that all you ace kids are failures! you clearly fail to see the accuracy and genius of the kenco! |
| 04:35.26 | wobin_ | As you can see |
| 04:35.30 | wobin_ | There is no Ace in Kenco |
| 04:35.42 | wobin_ | There is, however in Kencoa |
| 04:35.51 | Antiarc|Working | <krka> You can't spell "Kenco" without "ass"! |
| 04:35.56 | Antiarc|Working | *dodges thrown things* |
| 04:36.10 | nymbia | read the newest post |
| 04:36.23 | wobin_ | linx? |
| 04:36.31 | nymbia | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_269174 |
| 04:36.35 | art3mis | you mean KenCo(tm) |
| 04:36.36 | wobin_ | ta |
| 04:37.34 | Thrae | Seriously, if I was in Kenco's position, I would say, "If you want about the design of my addon, then please do so in Private Messages. If you continue to keep up this public show, I'm going to just start ignoring all comments." |
| 04:37.52 | Thrae | However, he's playing right into the public debaucle instead. Not wise. |
| 04:38.00 | ckknight | quite. |
| 04:38.13 | Thrae | s/you want/you want to talk/ |
| 04:38.21 | ckknight | if I were in Kenco's position, I'd be like, "Come talk to me on IRC! #wowace" |
| 04:38.28 | Fisker- | NYMBIA DONT |
| 04:38.35 | nymbia | I WONT |
| 04:38.38 | nymbia | huh? |
| 04:38.46 | Antiarc|Working | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/GhettoFPSMonitor.zip <-- grab it, run it, corroborate my results |
| 04:38.55 | wobin_ | he meant "Nymbia, Donut" |
| 04:39.05 | nymbia | ~donut |
| 04:39.06 | purl | well, donut is slightly crazy, slightly depressed, slightly paranoid. All pastry. |
| 04:39.17 | ckknight | NYMBIA DONUT |
| 04:39.24 | art3mis | yes those pesky ace kids |
| 04:39.24 | ckknight | mmm... donut |
| 04:39.31 | Fisker- | you're using himself to pwn him |
| 04:39.31 | syeren | Why doesn't he just come in here and discuss this with you nymbia? |
| 04:39.35 | Fisker- | people don't like that |
| 04:39.36 | syeren | Instead of making a fool of himself. |
| 04:39.38 | art3mis | *queues scooby-doo music |
| 04:39.44 | Starinnia | yeah, crazy infamous Ace kids |
| 04:39.52 | Starinnia | messing up Kenco's monopoly |
| 04:40.00 | Starinnia | so not fair |
| 04:40.07 | Fisker- | because we're immature kids syeren |
| 04:40.11 | ckknight | the government should clearly step in |
| 04:40.16 | Antiarc|Working | afk mommy says it's bedtime |
| 04:40.24 | ckknight | cya, Antiarc|Working |
| 04:40.28 | nymbia | syeren: harder to come up with that kind of stuff on the spot, it takes a while to come up with the profound web of insults and misinformation that is a kenco post |
| 04:40.29 | Fisker- | sigh |
| 04:40.34 | Fisker- | someone asked me about a quest |
| 04:40.35 | Antiarc|Working | I have to get up for third grade tomorrow! |
| 04:40.40 | Thrae | Some people don't like IRC, but still, Kenco should have said to take it to private messages at least. |
| 04:40.46 | Fisker- | "Oh it's to the northeast in Ghostlands" |
| 04:40.50 | Fisker- | "What way is northeast?" |
| 04:40.51 | Fisker- | gtfo |
| 04:40.57 | Starinnia | I think his posts are generated by a program he coded... which explains his logic holes |
| 04:41.03 | Antiarc|Working | heh |
| 04:41.06 | nymbia | burn |
| 04:41.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: that would only apply if he was honestly interested in improving the quality of his code. |
| 04:41.10 | ckknight | lol, Starinnia |
| 04:41.12 | wobin_ | yow |
| 04:41.16 | wobin_ | man, nymbia =P |
| 04:41.20 | Antiarc|Working | At this point, it's a pride thing, nothing more. |
| 04:41.30 | nymbia | lol wobin_ |
| 04:41.32 | Gagorian | Starinnia: Oh, that explains the reason for the long respond delays. His response addon is chewing up too much processing time! |
| 04:41.38 | nymbia | he's disagreeing with himself at this point |
| 04:41.43 | nymbia | i'm just pointing it out. |
| 04:41.57 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r40164 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell_frames.lua: |
| 04:41.57 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 04:41.58 | CIA-22 | - implemented the 'Filter By Armor' drop down. |
| 04:42.04 | Starinnia | don't point out flaws in the matrix! its dangerous |
| 04:42.04 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: You're being too harsh on him. |
| 04:42.41 | Birdemani | is it normal for aguf to spike up to 10 MiB upon zone in to a bg? |
| 04:43.01 | Thrae | Antiarc|Working: Isn't it a pride thing for you guys as well? |
| 04:43.11 | Shamino | does it happen when you join a raid also ? |
| 04:43.22 | Birdemani | not sure, just noticed it now for the first time |
| 04:43.25 | Antiarc|Working | Thrae: Not for me, at least. I'm genuinely interested in providing the best product possible to the WoW playerbase. |
| 04:43.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: am i? he's clearly not interested in improving his code, he hasn't been from the start, otherwise he would have made efforts to take the criticism and suggestions, instead of just debating a losing argument with lies and libel/slander. (not sure which applies here, probably libel) |
| 04:43.36 | syeren | zzzzz at buying gold for the new arena season :( |
| 04:44.08 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: There's a difference between honestly wanting to improve your code and honestly believing the people you're arguing with are wrong. |
| 04:44.14 | Antiarc|Working | I have a certain measure of pride wrapped up in it - I'd be a fool to say otherwise - but I'm not defending my position out of a need to be right, but rather, because the empirical evidence shows that I am, indeed, right. |
| 04:44.53 | Thrae | Antiarc|Working: Yeah, but as I said, you're doing it publically, where you could try to take it to private mediums. |
| 04:44.55 | wobin_ | Thrae: Well, that's where the problem lies. Group A believe that it could be written better, Group B believe that they have written it perfect. |
| 04:45.10 | Thrae | I believe in all things being Zen. |
| 04:45.11 | syeren | Birdemani, I believe so, as it is loading and doing all it's modules. |
| 04:45.16 | syeren | It goes right back down though I believe ;p |
| 04:45.17 | wobin_ | tbh, there hasn't been too much slander on the 'Ace' side |
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| 04:45.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: Fair enough, but I have a real hard time believing that -anyone- could honestly believe they were 100% right and everyone else was 100% wrong, at least if you were interested in the truth. |
| 04:45.31 | Thrae | wobin_: Not if you count this channel ;) |
| 04:45.37 | Antiarc|Working | *shrug* I guess it could be, but honestly, programmers are generally open to constructive criticism. It's not usually the kind of thing that needs to be discussed privately, for the most part. |
| 04:45.41 | wobin_ | Well this is technically a 'private' channel =P |
| 04:45.52 | wobin_ | not a public forum like the curse comment page |
| 04:45.59 | Thrae | Antiarc|Working: I'm not. Screw you all! |
| 04:46.09 | Antiarc|Working | Thrae: Your mother. |
| 04:46.21 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: eh, the channel's publically advertised and not +k, or invite only (forgot the switch for that), so its effectively a public forum. |
| 04:46.21 | Antiarc|Working | :) |
| 04:46.33 | wobin_ | True, but it's not Kenco's public forum =P |
| 04:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: neither is curse. |
| 04:46.44 | wobin_ | It is in his case =) |
| 04:46.51 | wobin_ | It's his platform to prove us all wrong |
| 04:46.59 | Thrae | Ooo, there's an addon on Curse which sole purpose is to unload KTM outside of Raids |
| 04:47.04 | NightHawkTheSane | only subjectively, because he's made it so. :P |
| 04:47.10 | wobin_ | Indeed |
| 04:47.10 | Antiarc|Working | Thrae: KTMCPUManager? |
| 04:47.28 | Thrae | Antiarc|Working: KTM AutoHide 2.0 |
| 04:47.31 | Kaydeethree | heh. memories of mazzlegasm interruptus |
| 04:47.43 | Antiarc|Working | Huh, okay |
| 04:47.56 | Antiarc|Working | (KTMCPUManager actually turns it off any time you don't need it :) ) |
| 04:48.24 | Thrae | That's not on Curse |
| 04:48.31 | Antiarc|Working | Nah, it's in the wowace svn |
| 04:48.35 | Antiarc|Working | I was wondering if someone uploaded it to curse |
| 04:49.13 | Starinnia | somebody prolly should, see what kind of reaction it gets |
| 04:49.29 | Fisker- | do it for the lulz |
| 04:49.38 | Gagorian | Rather have people stop using KTM permanently :p |
| 04:50.03 | Starinnia | isn't multi-target threat tracking enough of a reason to switch from KTM? |
| 04:50.15 | Antiarc|Working | Starinnia: Not if Ace2 at your dog. |
| 04:50.26 | Antiarc|Working | s/at/ate/ |
| 04:50.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Ace2 ran over my cat and fucked my dog. |
| 04:50.50 | Starinnia | well, why'd you guys let it eat his dog? |
| 04:50.57 | wobin_ | Tonight. You. |
| 04:51.14 | Thrae | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4218/ <-- Kenco has his own performance monitor, that says something. |
| 04:51.49 | Starinnia | I was tempted to look at his monitor's source code, but didn't feel like giving myself a headache tonight |
| 04:51.59 | Antiarc|Working | It's just an onupdate/onevent hook |
| 04:52.02 | Antiarc|Working | Like tekSupport |
| 04:52.31 | Starinnia | hmm, I was expecting a jumble of nothingness that printed out pre-formated strings |
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| 04:58.55 | Birdemani | anyone have a clue why autobar conflicts with bartender 3 in such a way that the stance change bars screw up? |
| 04:59.56 | nymbia | ow, my hand |
| 05:00.20 | Liquidor_ | Rofl at the new Mage Set 2 ( PvP) |
| 05:00.31 | nymbia | dood armor is gud |
| 05:00.32 | Kaydeethree | ya, not a happy camper with that |
| 05:00.34 | kebinusan | Liquidor_: whats the prob with it? |
| 05:00.43 | kebinusan | I noticed the warlock set had alot more armor |
| 05:00.47 | Birdemani | lol |
| 05:00.49 | Liquidor_ | Total Set Changes from Season 1 to 2 --- Dmg: +17, Int: -4, Sta: +6, Res: +4, Armor:+1000 |
| 05:00.51 | kebinusan | but didnt look closely |
| 05:00.51 | Birdemani | thats about all you get |
| 05:00.52 | Birdemani | ya |
| 05:01.39 | Liquidor_ | The Chest alone: +6 Stamina, -7 Intellect, + 2 Spellcrit, +2 Resilience, +3 Spelldmg |
| 05:01.56 | kebinusan | yeah I guess what do you expect for 13 ilvls, its not going to be a big change |
| 05:02.05 | kebinusan | luckily you can still just buy season one stuff if you wish to |
| 05:02.34 | Bibi`ouF | Yeah ! Another funny CPU graph to add to my collection ! |
| 05:02.36 | Bibi`ouF | http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5271/cpuvanishif7.png |
| 05:02.58 | Bibi`ouF | I think I lost a server :( |
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| 05:03.13 | Gagorian | Bibi`ouF: Or maybe you disabled KTM |
| 05:03.18 | Liquidor_ | Well that assumption is also valid kebinusan, but you see... Some of us actually play the game for the PvP part and while it's stated by Blizz that the season 2 gear should be on pair with Tier 5 (if not better), these changes don't really... uhm help? |
| 05:03.28 | Bibi`ouF | lol Gagorian |
| 05:03.41 | Bibi`ouF | i've got a KTM-enabled graph if you want ! |
| 05:04.00 | Bibi`ouF | http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3509/cpudayiq7.png |
| 05:04.01 | Bibi`ouF | here ! |
| 05:04.20 | Gagorian | kek :P |
| 05:05.14 | Liquidor_ | http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/8219/sensewl4.jpg Blizzard at its finest |
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| 05:26.03 | Antiarc | ckknight: Added threat/omen tests to my post there. |
| 05:26.11 | Antiarc | (ZealotOnAStick too I guess) |
| 05:27.49 | Antiarc | (Short answer: degraded 0.51%, less than 0.2 FPS. Likely well within the margin of error given the low number of tests) |
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| 05:28.21 | wobin_ | antiarc: link to post? |
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| 05:28.24 | ckknight | Antiarc: shiny |
| 05:28.28 | Antiarc | http://blog.antiarc.net/2007/06/15/measuring-klh-threat-meters-impact-on-system-performance/ |
| 05:28.30 | Antiarc | At the bottom |
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| 05:31.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. Some KTM fanboy is going through and rating down everyone's comments. |
| 05:31.56 | ckknight | I noticed |
| 05:31.57 | syeren | nymbia: Ping. |
| 05:32.17 | nymbia | syeren: wot^ |
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| 05:37.32 | ckknight | note: yes, I know the icons look freaky huge currently, I'll handle it |
| 05:37.52 | hyperChipmunk | HUGE LIEK VISTA ICONZ? |
| 05:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, can you handle me too? |
| 05:38.07 | ckknight | lol, hyperChipmunk |
| 05:39.47 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: Build your own HTPC -- MediaPortal includes a last.FM plugin by default. |
| 05:40.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: htcp, mediaportal, huhwhat? |
| 05:40.20 | NightHawkTheSane | htpc* |
| 05:41.26 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: Home Theather PC. Requires at least a DirectX 9-compatible video card, a TV Tuner card, 40GB HDD, 128MB RAM, and a P3 500MHz. |
| 05:41.37 | Thrae | Oh, and some type of audio. |
| 05:41.48 | NightHawkTheSane | why would i want to do that? |
| 05:41.53 | Thrae | If you want last.FM, obviously you'll need Ethernet too. |
| 05:42.17 | Thrae | Well, a HTPC would connect to a TV. With MediaPortal, it's basically a supped-up TiVo for a fraction of the price and no monthly costs. |
| 05:42.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, i get that. But a) where in the hell did this come from? it's kinda out of left field. :P b) i don't actually own a tv. so.. meh. |
| 05:42.57 | Thrae | You mentioned last.FM ;) |
| 05:43.14 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 05:43.28 | Thrae | You could make a Music Player Box for about $200 total, play all your MP3s and last.FM anywhere in the house... |
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| 05:43.52 | Thrae | Control it with a Nintendo DS or your cell phone (if it has WiFi) |
| 05:44.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Eh, if I ever wanted to make a media center pc, i'd just buy a new computer and use my existing g5 for that. |
| 05:44.49 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r40168 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj koKR update |
| 05:47.07 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, anyone remember what the order is for margin & padding css properties? |
| 05:47.24 | NightHawkTheSane | is it top left bottom right, or top right bottom left? |
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| 05:50.50 | hyperChipmunk | clockwise i think |
| 05:51.44 | Gagorian | indeed, so latter option |
| 05:52.55 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks |
| 05:54.20 | ZealotOnAStick | So, just started my first Arena Team: More Cowbell |
| 05:55.16 | Antiarc | I can't seem to find a copy of Warmup. Did it disappear? |
| 05:55.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: uh, check tekkubs svn? |
| 05:56.27 | Antiarc | I didn't see it there |
| 05:56.49 | NightHawkTheSane | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/!!Warmup/ |
| 05:57.03 | Antiarc | Got it, didn't see a zip |
| 05:57.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, its kinda hidden away in trunk |
| 05:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 05:59.37 | NeoTron | So is there a way I can make my frame grab the keyboard input when I click on it? |
| 06:00.01 | NeoTron | w |
| 06:00.01 | hyperChipmunk | make it an editbox? |
| 06:00.11 | NeoTron | it's not an edit box though. :) |
| 06:00.21 | NeoTron | it. I want the events but it's not for writing text |
| 06:00.28 | NeoTron | it's for my tetris |
| 06:00.51 | hyperChipmunk | ah, yea; I was thinking how you'd do that when i was thinking about wowmutt |
| 06:00.59 | hyperChipmunk | you can probably setfocus on a hidden editbox |
| 06:01.09 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 06:01.09 | hyperChipmunk | and read the characters as they're typed |
| 06:01.16 | Nargiddley | its something like :EnableKeyboard(), I use it for the keybinding in waterfall |
| 06:01.18 | hyperChipmunk | and clear it immediately |
| 06:01.37 | hyperChipmunk | ah, there ya go |
| 06:01.41 | hyperChipmunk | there's a real solution =) |
| 06:02.27 | Nargiddley | :EnableKeyboard(true) |
| 06:05.03 | NeoTron | ep |
| 06:05.05 | NeoTron | yep even |
| 06:17.31 | Peoii | argh, okay... |
| 06:17.38 | Peoii | ckknight: ping |
| 06:17.50 | ckknight | pong |
| 06:18.13 | Peoii | I'm still getting crazy amounts of crashing when in a raid... and I fear it's something to do with Pitbull. |
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| 06:18.33 | Peoii | It typically happens when someone changes around teh groups, typically while in combat. |
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| 06:18.46 | Peoii | Hard crashes the entire game. |
| 06:18.59 | Peoii | And it started happening exactly on the day you did the optimizations. |
| 06:20.00 | NeoTron | I reallyt need to make this addon use dynamic frames. has one evil xml file |
| 06:20.05 | Imp4kT | \o |
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| 06:23.25 | Birdemani | ok, this is useless |
| 06:23.29 | Birdemani | i need a new bar mod |
| 06:23.38 | Birdemani | bt3 is fubar'd |
| 06:23.41 | ckknight | Peoii: I've been doing constant optimizations... |
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| 06:23.58 | ckknight | Birdemani: works for me |
| 06:24.04 | Birdemani | if anyone cares, bt3 fucks up if you hold down shift while in combat and swap stances |
| 06:24.13 | NeoTron | heh my grab worked.. but release didn't. good thing I can reload the ui by shift clicking bugsack |
| 06:24.16 | Birdemani | but its random, you need to be holding shift and another keybind |
| 06:24.23 | Birdemani | and then it replaces the wrong bar there |
| 06:24.34 | Birdemani | NOTHING fixes it unelss you fully exit the game |
| 06:24.40 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r40169 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (Gluth.lua Heigan.lua): BigWigs_Naxxramas: update zhCN locale |
| 06:24.57 | Birdemani | this only started to happen after the changes to bt3 this week |
| 06:25.09 | Birdemani | ive used it perfectly since tbc launch |
| 06:25.22 | Nargiddley | Birdemani, shift mousewheel pages the first bar that'd be my guess |
| 06:25.37 | Birdemani | shift mousewhell is my stance change |
| 06:25.39 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r40170 10GrindStatus/modules/ (Battlegrounds.lua OutlandNeutral.lua OutlandShattrath.lua): |
| 06:25.39 | CIA-22 | GrindStatus: |
| 06:25.39 | CIA-22 | - Revert encoding breakage, please check your diff before committing in the future. |
| 06:25.41 | Birdemani | has been sofr months |
| 06:26.37 | Nargiddley | look in keybindings, Action Bar Functions for the paging |
| 06:26.48 | Nargiddley | its set to shift arrow up/down for me as well |
| 06:27.12 | ckknight | Peoii: want to update to the most recent? |
| 06:27.14 | Birdemani | narg |
| 06:27.17 | Birdemani | that worked@ |
| 06:27.24 | Birdemani | but, that doesnt fix the bug :/ |
| 06:27.39 | Nargiddley | hm :/ |
| 06:28.13 | Peoii | ckknight: I've got the most recent, and it started as of r39826 |
| 06:28.29 | Nargiddley | Birdemani, you could try unbinding that paging if you dont use it |
| 06:28.33 | Peoii | or there abouts. |
| 06:29.02 | Nargiddley | it might be the other keybind you're talking about that triggers the bug |
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| 06:30.19 | ckknight | Peoii: hrm, well, I've tested in combat... |
| 06:30.24 | ckknight | so I dunno |
| 06:31.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40171 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - small optimization |
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| 06:32.49 | Kemayo | Crap, Mendeleev lost its best feature. |
| 06:33.00 | Birdemani | whcih was? |
| 06:33.58 | Kemayo | Oh, wait, no. It's good. I just don't have high enough mining to be able to smelt the ore I was hovering over, this I didn't see the tree of stuff I could make below it. |
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| 06:50.49 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40172 10FuBar_GemWatchFu/FuBar_GemWatchFu.lua: |
| 06:50.49 | CIA-22 | FuBar_GemWatchFu: |
| 06:50.49 | CIA-22 | - potential bugfix |
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| 06:52.15 | art3mis | wow xchat sure is ugly for a nix client |
| 06:52.58 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r40173 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (Azuregos.lua Emeriss.lua Lethon.lua Taerar.lua Ysondre.lua): BigWigs_Azeroth: fix and update zhCN locale |
| 06:54.29 | Antiarc | Now taking bets on time-till-revert |
| 06:54.32 | hyperChipmunk | http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2 <--- added another picture; how's that for showing the function of the addon? I think you can pretty much figure it all out just by looking at the two pictures >8) |
| 06:54.41 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:55.13 | hyperChipmunk | translators make meh sad |
| 06:55.59 | wobin_ | >< |
| 06:56.03 | wobin_ | Mynimee? |
| 06:56.11 | hyperChipmunk | my mule |
| 06:56.17 | wobin_ | I hope s/he's a gnome =P |
| 06:56.18 | hyperChipmunk | my charname is Mynithrosil |
| 06:56.19 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, sweet, looks nice. now you just need a perty sshot of bulkmail2inbox and a wiki page for that :) |
| 06:56.34 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: yep, that's tomorrow |
| 06:57.37 | hyperChipmunk | wobin_: http://69.14.77.214/mynimee.png |
| 06:57.52 | wobin_ | hehe |
| 06:58.19 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: you need severe psychological help. :P |
| 06:58.24 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 06:58.37 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: you need to be kicked in the face |
| 06:58.44 | Imp4kT | Vista 98% downloaded o/// |
| 06:58.47 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: agreed! |
| 06:59.00 | Imp4kT | :D |
| 06:59.12 | Imp4kT | Whats the worst that can happen :) |
| 06:59.29 | Recluse | that's a dangerous question |
| 06:59.35 | wobin_ | You install Vista? =) |
| 06:59.53 | Imp4kT | Taking into consideration I have an XP install disc |
| 06:59.56 | Jaxon | Vista? Christ, I'd rather have STDs, they are easier to live with. |
| 07:00.04 | Imp4kT | Vista is fine :o |
| 07:00.11 | wobin_ | Are you sure? Yes/No |
| 07:00.15 | Imp4kT | y |
| 07:00.28 | wobin_ | Are you really sure? Yes/No |
| 07:00.33 | Imp4kT | yyy |
| 07:00.51 | wobin_ | I'm sorry, I do not recognise 'yyy' Are you sure? Yes/No |
| 07:00.57 | Imp4kT | YES OMG |
| 07:01.11 | wobin_ | Thank you for trying the Vista Experience tryout. |
| 07:01.18 | Jaxon | Well then |
| 07:01.21 | Jaxon | > You are in a house. |
| 07:01.32 | wobin_ | >l |
| 07:01.38 | hyperChipmunk | > CONSULT GUIDE ON VISTA |
| 07:01.41 | Shirik|Fooding | wobin_: Rofl |
| 07:01.42 | Jaxon | > It is dark. |
| 07:01.55 | wobin_ | ohnoes. GRUE =( |
| 07:01.55 | hyperChipmunk | > CONSULT GUIDE ON DARKNESS |
| 07:02.06 | Shirik|Fooding | Imp4kT: Your keyboard is attempting to type letters to the internet. Do you want to proceed? |
| 07:02.08 | Jaxon | wobin_: you told my next line. Bastard. |
| 07:02.20 | Imp4kT | Im only going to use the PC for WoW and CSS |
| 07:02.23 | Imp4kT | It cant go wrong., |
| 07:02.30 | Jaxon | Imp4kT: CSS? |
| 07:02.31 | NightHawkTheSane | > it is dark, you are likely to be kicked in the shins. |
| 07:02.37 | Shirik|Fooding | counter strike source |
| 07:02.37 | Imp4kT | Counter-Strike Source |
| 07:02.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 07:03.00 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 07:03.00 | Shirik|Fooding | HL mod of CS |
| 07:03.00 | Shirik|Fooding | HL2 * |
| 07:03.22 | Jaxon | CSS in a development channel usually means otherwise :P |
| 07:03.29 | Shirik|Fooding | ^^ |
| 07:03.34 | Imp4kT | o/ |
| 07:03.46 | Shirik | from this circumstance you could tell what he meant |
| 07:03.53 | Shirik | 032:022:53 12Imp4kT12 Im only going to use the PC for WoW and CSS |
| 07:03.56 | Shirik | you can't confuse that >.> |
| 07:04.05 | Imp4kT | :] |
| 07:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | if you dont know what css means in the gaming context you can |
| 07:04.17 | wobin_ | He could have obscure hobbies =) |
| 07:04.32 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: what's so obscure about cascading style sheets? |
| 07:04.37 | Jaxon | Hey, guys, I'm bored for the next two hours, lets argue semantics. |
| 07:04.49 | wobin_ | "let's" |
| 07:04.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Actually, arguing semantics is one of my hobbies. |
| 07:05.03 | Jaxon | wobin_: +1 |
| 07:05.13 | wobin_ | \O/ |
| 07:05.17 | NightHawkTheSane | purl, wobin++ |
| 07:05.34 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i can't remember if i did that right |
| 07:05.49 | wobin_ | ~karma wobin |
| 07:05.49 | purl | wobin has karma of 1 |
| 07:06.02 | wobin_ | I can't recall what my original karma was =) |
| 07:06.14 | NightHawkTheSane | purl, wobin-- |
| 07:06.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ~karma wobin |
| 07:06.17 | purl | wobin has neutral karma |
| 07:06.23 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i guess i did do it right. |
| 07:06.25 | wobin_ | aha, the correct syntax =) |
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| 07:10.55 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 07:10.59 | Fisker- | that giant faggot |
| 07:11.58 | Jaxon | All my pitbull text is gone... |
| 07:12.47 | hyperChipmunk | maybe it's hiding behind your pvp icon |
| 07:12.51 | Recluse | Jaxon: Sometimes happens to me. Sometimes it comes back after a bit, sometimes I reload ui. scared me the first time lol not sure why it happens |
| 07:13.11 | Imp4kT | The debuff frame always messes up for me with Pitbull |
| 07:13.26 | Imp4kT | Sticks to the power spark and stuff sometimes :( |
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| 07:15.31 | Jaxon | Is it just me, or are the Cilo and Otravi bar textures the same? |
| 07:16.21 | nymbia | ~whaleslap Fisker- |
| 07:16.22 | purl | ACTION beats Fisker- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 07:16.23 | nymbia | ;) |
| 07:16.35 | Fisker- | seriously man |
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| 07:17.07 | Fisker- | my BS-O-Meter and Retard-O-Meter couldn't even meassure that high |
| 07:17.17 | wobin_ | Does it go to eleven? =) |
| 07:17.27 | Fisker- | it goes to 31337 |
| 07:17.37 | wobin_ | It's over 9,000? |
| 07:17.50 | Fisker- | teag |
| 07:17.52 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 07:18.42 | Fisker- | Kaelten should just edit all of Kenco's posts to "I'm a huge fucking faggot" |
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| 07:19.48 | art3mis | ahhh irssi |
| 07:19.54 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 07:19.54 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Fisker- |
| 07:19.58 | art3mis | i should prolly go install scrollz |
| 07:20.01 | Kaelten | :P |
| 07:20.23 | art3mis | ScrollZ was previously known as CToolZ. The first version of CToolZ was released in 1993 according to "flier" himself. |
| 07:20.28 | art3mis | that amuses me to no end |
| 07:20.46 | art3mis | scrollz ad ctoolz were in parallel dev at the same time |
| 07:20.53 | art3mis | scrollz went public ctoolz went private |
| 07:21.02 | art3mis | lying basitches |
| 07:21.26 | Fisker- | i'm totally right Kaelten ;( |
| 07:23.38 | art3mis | so who wants to give me thier cedega install to play with? |
| 07:24.37 | sedatedChipmunk | use crossover |
| 07:24.40 | sedatedChipmunk | it's better |
| 07:24.48 | sedatedChipmunk | for wow, anyway |
| 07:24.50 | art3mis | have been |
| 07:24.59 | art3mis | was curious as to what all the hub bub for ced was |
| 07:25.01 | sedatedChipmunk | 6.1 is veeeery nice |
| 07:25.02 | Jaxon | I had better luck with Cedega |
| 07:25.18 | art3mis | shit |
| 07:25.26 | art3mis | i left my crossover cd at work |
| 07:25.26 | Jaxon | art3mis: what distro are you using? I don't think I have anything but .deb packages. |
| 07:25.29 | art3mis | booooooooooo |
| 07:25.33 | art3mis | rpm is fien |
| 07:25.35 | art3mis | fine |
| 07:25.39 | art3mis | fedora 7 right now |
| 07:25.43 | wobin_ | wine is working fine for me |
| 07:25.51 | art3mis | err sorry i read what you said wrong ;P |
| 07:25.53 | Jaxon | And I don't have an active subscription since I bought a MacPro |
| 07:26.11 | Jaxon | Do you have alien installed? Should let you convert the .deb |
| 07:26.16 | art3mis | sedated: gimme 6.1 |
| 07:26.25 | art3mis | i wanna muck now durnit |
| 07:26.26 | wobin_ | I would consider trying out crossover/cedega, but I'll wait til I get a new compy |
| 07:26.34 | wobin_ | which could be anytime in the next half year =P |
| 07:26.35 | art3mis | ya know what i dont like about crossover? |
| 07:26.52 | art3mis | the fact that its not to keen on running wow from a perviously installed location |
| 07:27.08 | art3mis | wobin: heh thats actually where ced and cross beat wine |
| 07:27.34 | sedatedChipmunk | i needed to re-install wow anyway, so it gave me a good excuse to finally get up and do it |
| 07:27.43 | art3mis | sedate: heh |
| 07:27.53 | wobin_ | art3mis: You need to reinstall Wow? =\ |
| 07:27.57 | art3mis | ive installed it about 40 times in the last few weeks trrying out diff distros n stuff |
| 07:27.58 | wobin_ | that sucks |
| 07:28.02 | art3mis | with cross yeah |
| 07:28.09 | wobin_ | wrrry? =P |
| 07:28.10 | art3mis | it creates a little "bottle" for the stuff |
| 07:28.11 | sedatedChipmunk | you don't have to |
| 07:28.25 | art3mis | runs like shit if it runs at all when you dont ;P |
| 07:28.26 | sedatedChipmunk | but it greatly simplifies things if you at least let it thinks it does |
| 07:28.41 | wobin_ | art3mis: Nah, the thing is, I -want- to upgrade my computer |
| 07:28.50 | art3mis | wobin: oh heh yeah that was my excuse too |
| 07:28.51 | wobin_ | and if Wow suddenly works brilliantly, I'll have no excuse =P |
| 07:28.55 | sedatedChipmunk | anyway, snoozestime |
| 07:28.59 | wobin_ | night chipper |
| 07:29.04 | art3mis | lucky for me my cpu and mem started actting flakey at the same time |
| 07:29.09 | art3mis | sed |
| 07:29.16 | art3mis | gimme 6.1 on a link |
| 07:29.20 | art3mis | before you go |
| 07:29.23 | art3mis | ;) |
| 07:29.33 | sedatedChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/install-crossover-pro-6.1.0.sh |
| 07:29.45 | art3mis | danke |
| 07:30.04 | sedatedChipmunk | you owes meh |
| 07:30.16 | art3mis | yup i duz |
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| 07:30.41 | art3mis | bukket has the best random quit messages |
| 07:31.17 | wobin_ | he should be renamed Tekkakub |
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| 07:35.54 | Fisker- | TeleTekkubies |
| 07:37.07 | wobin_ | hm, as a leatherworker, do we get any new quivers/ammobags with the expansion? |
| 07:37.15 | Jaxon | No. |
| 07:37.23 | NightHawkTheSane | nope |
| 07:37.27 | wobin_ | alas |
| 07:37.40 | Fisker- | learn2hackthegame |
| 07:37.57 | NightHawkTheSane | only one in expansion i'm aware of is the mag'har/kurenai revered one, i think? |
| 07:38.08 | Jaxon | Consortium has a bullet pouch at Revered |
| 07:38.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, yeah, they have the bullet pouch, and mag'har/kurenai has quiver |
| 07:38.36 | Jaxon | All of this is irrellevant to anyone with an Ancient Sinew Wrapped Lamina |
| 07:38.44 | NightHawkTheSane | true. |
| 07:38.54 | NightHawkTheSane | but the number of people with this going to dwindle |
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| 07:43.31 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc |
| 07:43.43 | Fisker- | We should release the KTM Anti-Suckage package |
| 07:43.49 | Antiarc | Eh? |
| 07:44.33 | Athou_ | ckknight: ping? |
| 07:44.38 | Silviu- | ThreatToKTM |
| 07:44.39 | ckknight | pong |
| 07:44.41 | Silviu- | Hmm |
| 07:44.47 | Antiarc | I haven't tested it |
| 07:44.49 | Silviu- | Works ? |
| 07:44.58 | Athou_ | PitBull ate my frame's text :( |
| 07:45.01 | Antiarc | Hahahah |
| 07:45.03 | Antiarc | So, google |
| 07:45.08 | Antiarc | Ended up dumping me here |
| 07:45.08 | Antiarc | http://www.abcsearch.com/jump/?affiliate=mk2&subid=1719800003&Terms=threat-1.0&e= |
| 07:45.09 | Antiarc | Guys |
| 07:45.09 | Athou_ | looks like only ABF is still working |
| 07:45.14 | ckknight | Athou_: yea, I know |
| 07:45.17 | Antiarc | I eBayed my threat library |
| 07:45.19 | ckknight | Athou_: I'm hacking. |
| 07:45.27 | Antiarc | Kenco's right, I need to lern2play^H^H^H^Hprogram |
| 07:45.29 | Athou_ | ok thanks :) |
| 07:45.43 | ckknight | Athou_: note: all other layouts besides ABF will stop working |
| 07:45.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: lol |
| 07:45.54 | ckknight | granted, there won't be a point to them |
| 07:46.10 | wobin_ | Interesting |
| 07:46.19 | wobin_ | Just lost text on my pitbull bars |
| 07:46.42 | Fisker- | 404 Antiarc :( |
| 07:46.51 | ckknight | wobin_: revert a few revisions |
| 07:47.57 | Athou_ | what does ABF stands for btw ? |
| 07:48.02 | ckknight | dunno |
| 07:48.04 | ckknight | I'm gonna rename it |
| 07:48.10 | ckknight | to "Standard" |
| 07:48.49 | ckknight | Athou_: I originally stole the ABF layout from agUF |
| 07:49.05 | Jaxon | Which was copied over from another addon |
| 07:49.06 | Fisker- | omg you stoelz his megahurtz by renaming it to standard |
| 07:49.22 | Gngsk | minigroup! |
| 07:49.40 | ckknight | everything's a copy of a copy |
| 07:49.43 | Fisker- | ag was coauthor on minigroup |
| 07:49.46 | Jaxon | Gngsk: that was it! |
| 07:50.01 | Antiarc | Is there any addon out there that deals with the gold spammers blind inviting you to parties without damaging normal party invites? |
| 07:50.03 | Gngsk | minigroup was an original |
| 07:50.14 | ckknight | Antiarc: WoW 2.1.2 |
| 07:50.37 | Athou_ | ckknight: right, I guess you're aiming at an ingame customizable layout ? |
| 07:50.38 | Gngsk | author kinda stopped updating it an ag stepped in, eventually became MG2 |
| 07:50.44 | Gngsk | then ace rewrite was aguf |
| 07:51.05 | ckknight | Athou_: right. |
| 07:51.15 | Jaxon | No, wait, not minigroup, ABF came from an Ace unitframe mod and was ported over to agUF |
| 07:51.32 | Gngsk | ahh, I never used Ace unitframes |
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| 07:51.55 | ckknight | I like ABF because it seems like the most efficient way to me |
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| 07:52.35 | Antiarc | Bleh, kinda sucks to wait for an update |
| 07:52.42 | Antiarc | My wife's had 9 blind invites in the last half hour |
| 07:52.58 | Antiarc | And if she doesn't /ignore them they keep spamming it |
| 07:53.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yeesh. >< |
| 07:53.16 | NightHawkTheSane | I only get a handful of random invites |
| 07:53.27 | Antiarc | I normally don't get that many, but it's really bad tonight apparently |
| 07:53.31 | Antiarc | I'm working on non-wow stuf |
| 07:53.32 | ckknight | basically, it prevents trial accounts from inviting |
| 07:53.32 | Fisker- | whats with 2.1.2 ckknight ? |
| 07:53.35 | Antiarc | So I can't say |
| 07:53.41 | Athou_ | Antiarc: group with someone you know then :) |
| 07:53.53 | Fisker- | ah ok ckknight :o |
| 07:54.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: i noticed it seems to happen more when you're in town, so if that's where you/her are, then maybe |
| 07:54.03 | Fisker- | i just accept the invite and report them |
| 07:54.13 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:54.26 | wobin_ | I just let the group request time out |
| 07:54.32 | wobin_ | while it's up, they can't resend it |
| 07:54.35 | wobin_ | (to me) |
| 07:54.36 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: I've only ever had it while in Azeroth, never in Outland |
| 07:54.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: i've had it happen a couple times in outland. |
| 07:55.10 | Fisker- | reporting is cooler |
| 07:55.22 | Fisker- | Then their account gets muted if a couple of guys does it |
| 07:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Ironically, the last time, i was in the lfg queue and someone had sent me a tell just prior, so i assumed it was an invite to a group. >< |
| 07:55.51 | Antiarc | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/screenshots/ <-- check those first four screens |
| 07:59.10 | Antiarc | Slacker. |
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| 08:00.36 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd best not mean in the literal sense. |
| 08:01.05 | vrak | are there any easy ways to find tainted frames? |
| 08:01.35 | Antiarc | There's some addon that checks for taint |
| 08:01.53 | vrak | remember the name? |
| 08:01.54 | Antiarc | TaintChecker, in the files repo |
| 08:01.59 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/files/TaintChecker/TaintChecker-r26541.zip |
| 08:02.01 | vrak | thanks |
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| 08:03.52 | kebinusan | bleh pitbull ate my custom text :-( now I need to remember wth it was |
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| 08:05.37 | ckknight_ | kebinusan: yea, my bad |
| 08:05.46 | ckknight_ | kebinusan: should still exist in your SVs |
| 08:05.53 | Fisker- | madness? |
| 08:06.16 | wobin_ | Sparta |
| 08:06.24 | Imp4kT | whats ABF |
| 08:06.31 | Diao | the layout |
| 08:06.50 | Imp4kT | whats ABF |
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| 08:07.16 | Imp4kT | D: |
| 08:07.20 | ckknight_ | what? |
| 08:09.13 | Peoii | Is there a way in pitbull to change the scale of the icons, cause wow, they suddenly got huge. |
| 08:10.11 | ckknight | Peoii: I'm working on it |
| 08:10.43 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | Don't ask about PitBull's texts or icons, it's being worked on |
| 08:11.17 | Peoii | ckknight: cool. I still don't know what's going on, I'm trying to reproduce that crash, but wow. It happened 8 times while queueing for warsong. Anytime someone switched locations in the groups, it crashed the game. |
| 08:11.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:11.39 | ckknight | in combat always? |
| 08:12.06 | Peoii | I was rarely in combat during the crash, sometimes people would be, sometimes not (according to what they were saying over vent) |
| 08:12.41 | Peoii | It gives me a memory unable to be "read" error. |
| 08:13.26 | Jaxon | Babble is a library for easy translations, right? |
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| 08:14.12 | ckknight | yes, Jaxon |
| 08:14.16 | ckknight | premade translations |
| 08:14.49 | ckknight | Peoii: what raid grouping do you use? |
| 08:15.04 | Jaxon | Well, that seems a bit much considering I speak just the one language, mayhap I'll butcher my local copy. |
| 08:15.06 | Peoii | I have all of pitbull's raid frames disabled. |
| 08:16.48 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40174 10ArkInventory/ (5 files): |
| 08:16.49 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:16.49 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-16-18-15 |
| 08:17.12 | ckknight | Peoii: well then that makes no sense :-P |
| 08:17.18 | Peoii | But the error only happens a) when pitbull is enabled, and b) when I'm in a raid and someone is moved around in groups. It's not 100% either... sometimes it happens, sometimes not. But there's definately something, I just can't track down a repeatable situtation. |
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| 08:19.19 | Peoii | hrm, I might have thought of a new test... I wonder if I enable pitbulls raid frames if it would stop happening. Like is there a way some other piece of code (say for instance the group updater) could be trying to call a raid frame if it doesnt' exist? |
| 08:19.32 | ckknight | no |
| 08:19.50 | Peoii | It's always making reference to something20Frame in the memory stack when I look at the crash report. |
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| 08:24.55 | ckknight | AceEvent20Frame? |
| 08:25.00 | Peoii | yup |
| 08:26.21 | Antiarc | Man, I have to say, I adore Notepad++'s ctrl-tab |
| 08:27.33 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1181982044619.jpg :P |
| 08:28.06 | ckknight | looks like she needs a slap |
| 08:28.25 | Gngsk | ~framexml |
| 08:28.34 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 08:28.34 | Fisker- | doesn't look like they thought that slogan through |
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| 08:28.50 | ckknight | Fisker-: makes sense to me. |
| 08:29.19 | ckknight | it's about the strength of women to overcome abuse and to cause more pain to the person who abused them |
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| 08:32.17 | Fisker- | nono |
| 08:32.20 | Fisker- | they're a rock |
| 08:32.29 | Fisker- | and just as intelligent as one |
| 08:32.30 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 08:34.30 | ckknight | I'm not too fond of misogyny, Fisker- |
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| 08:34.53 | Fin | dobry den |
| 08:35.58 | Fisker- | but that's how people would see it ckknight :( |
| 08:36.05 | ckknight | Fin: you a Slovak? |
| 08:36.13 | ckknight | Fisker-: that's not what I thought of. |
| 08:36.42 | Fin | ckknight: I live in Prague |
| 08:36.42 | Fisker- | But you're also smart :( |
| 08:36.53 | ckknight | Fin: fun |
| 08:36.55 | Fin | but I'm English |
| 08:37.02 | Fin | ckknight: yes! :) although man I can't stand this weather |
| 08:37.16 | Fin | amazing, er, scenery though |
| 08:38.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40175 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: |
| 08:38.04 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add preliminary support for arbitrary icon placement. |
| 08:38.04 | CIA-22 | No options yet. |
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| 08:46.32 | art3mis | wow the new nvidia driver works nice in xorg |
| 08:46.46 | art3mis | still sucks crap for wow |
| 08:46.52 | Imp4kT | they are better than before at wow |
| 08:46.56 | art3mis | and i still ordered a x1950xt |
| 08:47.16 | art3mis | but the 100.xx driver is a vast improvement over the previous |
| 08:47.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40176 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - better positioning of icons that are in the center of a frame. |
| 08:48.15 | art3mis | oh ckk thanks again for the global setting |
| 08:48.21 | ckknight | :-) |
| 08:48.42 | art3mis | its saved me lots of infuriating keyboard imprints in my forehead ;P |
| 08:49.10 | Peoii | ckknight: Ok, so a little more research into this. Looking at my /Errors/ folder for WoW (which I never ever clean), I have 0 crashes from 2/2007 -> 6/14/2007. Then since that time, I have 19. |
| 08:49.13 | Peoii | ckknight: Every single one of the log files giving the same error "The memory could not be 'read'", and every single one referencing DBG:AceEvent20Frame in the memory trace. |
| 08:49.27 | ckknight | okay |
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| 08:49.37 | ckknight | pastey one of the full errors, would you? |
| 08:49.46 | Peoii | sure |
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| 08:50.57 | Peoii | http://pastey.net/56959 |
| 08:51.22 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone know if ThreatLib got support gor Hunter pet ability Screech? |
| 08:53.45 | art3mis | there we go win32 support java working right mplayer working right flash/shockwave working right |
| 08:54.01 | art3mis | but still no way to sync my blackjack agaisnt evolution |
| 08:55.29 | Antiarc | Nickenyfiken: Not yet |
| 08:55.38 | Antiarc | Nickenyfiken: I need threat values on it, really |
| 08:56.29 | Nickenyfiken | OK |
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| 08:58.26 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r40177 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: added option to hide the startup message reporting Prat's version |
| 08:58.52 | Athou_ | I'm using GratuityLib to get the tooltip text of an item from it's itemlink, but the GetLine() method strips colors from the text, is there a way to get the text with its colors ? |
| 08:59.46 | Silviu- | ckknight i can paste u one too from 20 mins ago ;) http://ace.pastey.net/56960 |
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| 09:01.18 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110644023&postId=1104743915&sid=1#0 |
| 09:01.24 | Antiarc | "I haven't bothered to read many of the below posts, but I'm assuming it's about memory efficiency or something? Get a new PC. What I'm here to say, I love the concept of this addon, and to be honest, it works just fine. If it lags your PC, stop using a 386 and get a new one." |
| 09:02.05 | ckknight | Antiarc: srsly? user or Kenco? |
| 09:02.19 | Antiarc | User |
| 09:02.21 | Antiarc | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 09:02.34 | Antiarc | Kenco was seriously wounded, BUT THE USERS STILL BURN |
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| 09:02.48 | Ominous | morning |
| 09:03.17 | ckknight | morning, Ominous |
| 09:03.21 | ckknight | how are you today? |
| 09:03.25 | Ominous | tired |
| 09:03.30 | Ominous | 4hrs sleep last night |
| 09:03.34 | Ominous | damn mana tombs heroic |
| 09:03.35 | Fin | morning Pom |
| 09:03.58 | Fin | Pomdiddlyominous: [10:57:54] < CIA-22> fin * r40177 Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: added option to hide the startup message reporting Prat's version |
| 09:04.03 | Fin | happy?! :P |
| 09:04.05 | Ominous | rofl |
| 09:04.07 | Ominous | yay |
| 09:04.09 | Ominous | :) |
| 09:04.16 | Fin | heh |
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| 09:04.50 | Ominous | apply to nocturnal already :) |
| 09:05.16 | kebinusan | to LoD prat modules, I move Prat_Modules_AutoLoD Prat_AutoLoD and Prat_Modules out of the prat dir? |
| 09:05.39 | Fin | kebinusan: I'm not 100% sure about this, but yes, that's what I do - move them into the main AddOns directory |
| 09:05.49 | CIA-22 | 03kunda * r40178 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-deDE.lua: FuBar_BagFu: fix deDE |
| 09:05.49 | Ominous | Fin: how are u this morning |
| 09:06.18 | Fin | Ominous: good thanks! I will apply :) just want to tie up a few loose ends :) |
| 09:06.39 | Ominous | :), you enjoy cot last night? |
| 09:06.43 | Fin | Old Hillsbrad is awesome, I'm so glad I waited to check it out on my own :) |
| 09:07.01 | Ominous | :) |
| 09:07.06 | Ominous | now just bm |
| 09:07.08 | Fin | although of course to actually get anywhere I'll have to get a group :) but I got to read the quest descriptions at least this time :) |
| 09:07.22 | wobin_ | meh |
| 09:07.27 | Fin | if I went with a group, I would've been rushing round the CoT intro bit and stuff, that would've sucked |
| 09:07.37 | Fin | BM? |
| 09:07.40 | wobin_ | The users can burn |
| 09:07.42 | vrak | black morass |
| 09:07.48 | wobin_ | but we can mod down their comments for troll |
| 09:08.03 | Fin | oh, right - I tried going in and saw the message saying that I had to save Thrall first :) |
| 09:08.06 | Ominous | BM is either great and over in 30mins or takes hours |
| 09:08.13 | Fin | hehe |
| 09:08.27 | Fin | well I'm sure with your *ahem* expert guidance... |
| 09:08.34 | vrak | bm was interesting when noone knew how to do it |
| 09:08.38 | kebinusan | I dunno, I did it on heroic last night for the firs ttime, want really any more difficult than a normal bm run |
| 09:08.48 | Fin | maybe you're just uber |
| 09:09.06 | Fin | I need a shower |
| 09:09.06 | Ominous | durnhole is a hawrd heroic isnt it? |
| 09:09.21 | Mikk | fairly |
| 09:09.24 | wobin_ | there are easy heriocs? |
| 09:09.28 | Mikk | gets hectic as hell during the escort |
| 09:09.29 | kebinusan | durn heroic is stupid |
| 09:09.30 | Arrowmaster | i dont want to ever step foot in heroic durnholde again.... |
| 09:09.40 | Birdemani | yes heroics are easy once you have the gear |
| 09:09.44 | kebinusan | the first part of durn heroic is fun |
| 09:09.47 | Arrowmaster | who the fuck puts trash mobs on a 10 minute respawn timer |
| 09:09.48 | Birdemani | there really isnt a hard one anymore |
| 09:09.53 | kebinusan | but once you get to thrall it was kinda stupid |
| 09:09.56 | Birdemani | even arcatrax is easy |
| 09:10.03 | Arrowmaster | arc has always been easy |
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| 09:10.05 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Speaking of timers: http://xkcd.com/ |
| 09:10.07 | kebinusan | maybe they nerfed it, but the trash at the end of the instance was two shotting tanks |
| 09:10.10 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40179 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: %s is now not needed in bar txt |
| 09:10.11 | Mikk | Birdemani: durn is different... you don't get to rest and mana up |
| 09:10.18 | Antiarc | kebinusan: lern2heal, obviously. |
| 09:10.31 | Birdemani | if you do the pulls right you can, ive done all the heroics a few times |
| 09:10.33 | kebinusan | and would not get on thrall at the start if he didnt reset properly between groups |
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| 09:10.34 | Ominous | in str = gsub(str, '%%n', GetUnitName(unit)) if there is no %n in the string is GetUnitName() called or not? |
| 09:10.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah the warrior drackanoids hit like fucking trucks |
| 09:10.56 | kebinusan | if you're standing too close to them they aggro on you instead of thrall |
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| 09:11.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:11.04 | ckknight | Ominous: it is |
| 09:11.07 | kebinusan | theres just too many chances to get oneshot |
| 09:11.11 | Ominous | ok |
| 09:11.12 | Arrowmaster | thrall is the only one with the hp to tank them |
| 09:11.22 | kebinusan | and since you only get three chances its pretty bleh |
| 09:11.24 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 09:11.30 | Birdemani | if you have a priest you should always have them fade just as the last one dies |
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| 09:11.38 | kebinusan | Heroic durn is my least favorite heroic |
| 09:11.48 | Birdemani | it just takes too long |
| 09:11.57 | Antiarc | Error: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 09:11.57 | Antiarc | Error: REPORT of '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default': 200 OK (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 09:12.00 | Antiarc | Rut ro. |
| 09:12.03 | Arrowmaster | ive been doing heroic shattered halls lately, i hate kargath |
| 09:12.05 | Birdemani | heroic BM is easy with two spriests and a mage |
| 09:12.17 | Birdemani | kargath is the hardest heroics boss |
| 09:12.40 | Arrowmaster | hits too hard |
| 09:12.57 | Birdemani | wearing pvp gear is the key on him |
| 09:13.03 | Arrowmaster | and the blade dance is too random, ive found a way to make him not hit me but he hits others more |
| 09:13.04 | Birdemani | works out better thta way |
| 09:13.26 | Arrowmaster | you kill adds or just burn him down? |
| 09:13.36 | Birdemani | burn |
| 09:13.43 | Birdemani | i just grab as many adds as I can |
| 09:13.44 | Arrowmaster | thats what we did too |
| 09:13.45 | Birdemani | cc the rest |
| 09:14.25 | Arrowmaster | we were actually a little worried when we got to kargath before the yell about the executioner ariving |
| 09:15.03 | Arrowmaster | but getting 5 badges for the run is perty nice for how much of a pita it is |
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| 09:15.32 | Birdemani | 4 |
| 09:15.41 | Arrowmaster | no 5 |
| 09:15.49 | Arrowmaster | executioner drops 1 too |
| 09:16.04 | Birdemani | forgot |
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| 09:16.45 | Adirelle | Antiarc: any idea why I can't use ThreatLib.new from TTK ? it says "nil value" |
| 09:17.25 | Adirelle | (btw, why isn't there any recycling func in ace2 ?) |
| 09:17.39 | Ominous | ThreatLib:new()? |
| 09:17.49 | xystic | why did Nymbia delete his/her posts? |
| 09:17.56 | Antiarc | Adirelle: The ThreatLib upvalue gets nilled |
| 09:18.04 | ckknight | Adirelle: that's my doing ;-) |
| 09:18.06 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Use local ThreatLib = AceLibrary("Threat-1.0") |
| 09:18.06 | ckknight | no grabbies. |
| 09:18.14 | wobin_ | He decided it wasn't worth his time to argue a pointless argument |
| 09:18.25 | ckknight | Antiarc: ThreatLib.new is the table creator |
| 09:18.30 | ckknight | nilled on register |
| 09:18.36 | ckknight | it's so modules can use it |
| 09:18.40 | art3mis | it's the 3rd law of the internet |
| 09:18.50 | art3mis | Even if you win you're still retarded |
| 09:18.58 | ckknight | Adirelle: steal the new, newHash, newSet, del from the top of Threat-1.0.lua |
| 09:18.58 | wobin_ | Special Olympics? |
| 09:19.07 | art3mis | and internet arguments ;P |
| 09:19.16 | Adirelle | and well... since new/del is used in 90% of addon, souldn't it get into some kind of library ? |
| 09:19.25 | art3mis | rule 1 is the internet is where the men are men and so are most of the women. |
| 09:19.30 | Adirelle | long ago there was the compost lib... |
| 09:19.48 | art3mis | rule 2 if google cant find it you're the craziest person alive. |
| 09:19.59 | kebinusan | The men are men, the women are men, and the girls are fbi agents |
| 09:20.08 | art3mis | children are fbi ;P |
| 09:20.26 | ckknight | Adirelle: yea, but having its own lib was overkill for a few small helper funcs |
| 09:20.28 | Adirelle | Antiarc: any hope I can access partyMemberRevisions and partyMemberUsesKLHTM from outside of ThreatLib ? |
| 09:20.30 | art3mis | ya know i like .//hack |
| 09:20.36 | ckknight | and having a namespaced system is better anyway |
| 09:20.47 | art3mis | although im confused as to how they can put so little content in each episode |
| 09:20.59 | *** join/#wowace Gale^ (n=Gale212@85-210-249-179.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 09:21.02 | [Ammo] | ckknight: compostlib helped make people aware of table recycling |
| 09:21.05 | art3mis | and i want a kitty girl of my own |
| 09:21.05 | [Ammo] | it worked wonders |
| 09:21.07 | ckknight | Adirelle: hack it in for now, it's inevitable that TTK will go into Threat-1.0 eventually |
| 09:21.11 | art3mis | like Dragon Pink ;) |
| 09:21.21 | Adirelle | ckknight: and what about adding them in a very small sublib of ace2 ? |
| 09:21.32 | ckknight | nah |
| 09:21.46 | Adirelle | ckknight: using something like "local new,del = AceLibrary('AceRecycle-2.0'):Import('new', 'del')" ? |
| 09:22.06 | ckknight | I don't want to deal with another library. |
| 09:23.00 | Adirelle | btw I'm sure a few other functions could go in that library, maybe some string functions like split() |
| 09:23.40 | Adirelle | this way the cache table would be common to all addons, instead of each addon having its own recycle table |
| 09:24.03 | ckknight | string.split not good enough for you? |
| 09:24.09 | Adirelle | ckknight: nvm :p |
| 09:24.21 | Adirelle | ckknight: and what about exposing them in acelibrary ? |
| 09:24.38 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 09:24.44 | ckknight | out of scope methinks |
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| 09:25.20 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40180 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: not UNIT_AURA bucket happens every .25 not .5 of a second |
| 09:27.18 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40181 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: Fix some Black Morass problems. |
| 09:28.19 | Fin | that's better |
| 09:29.02 | Ominous | :) |
| 09:29.08 | Fin | new: FreshFin! Gets your whites WHITER than white! That's right! |
| 09:29.38 | Fin | OK, OK |
| 09:30.17 | ckknight | Fin: #gggggg |
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| 09:31.26 | Fisker- | invalid hex code! |
| 09:33.02 | Fin | ckknight: yay! |
| 09:34.17 | nevcairiel | dont question insanity |
| 09:34.19 | Ominous | well im off, cya later |
| 09:34.32 | Fin | bye Pom! |
| 09:34.45 | Fin | wait |
| 09:34.50 | Fin | Ominous: you around today? |
| 09:34.53 | Ominous | yes |
| 09:35.01 | Ominous | you know people might think ur odd calling me that |
| 09:35.07 | Ominous | ill be back in ~4hrs |
| 09:35.16 | Fin | roger wilco |
| 09:35.20 | ckknight | Pom? |
| 09:35.26 | Ominous | srug |
| 09:35.28 | Fin | Pomdiddlyominous |
| 09:35.33 | Ominous | he started calling my it on ts |
| 09:35.40 | Ominous | s/my/me/ |
| 09:35.55 | Fin | well |
| 09:36.11 | Fin | just "Om" or "Omi" didn't seem to fit |
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| 09:36.27 | Ominous | rofl |
| 09:36.29 | Fin | I was trying out alternative shortnames |
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| 09:36.37 | Ominous | everyone else just calls me Omin |
| 09:36.48 | Ominous | and how is Pomdiddlyominous shorter? |
| 09:36.49 | Fin | that's too many syllables |
| 09:36.56 | Ominous | xD |
| 09:36.59 | Ominous | anyways im off |
| 09:37.09 | Fin | like bad cheese |
| 09:37.16 | Fin | he loves me really |
| 09:37.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40182 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - slight optimization |
| 09:38.03 | phyber | is there a reason that Babble-Race isn't included with mods that need it yet, or shall I go ahead and commit a few fixes for it? |
| 09:38.55 | ckknight | knock yourself out |
| 09:39.29 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r40183 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc): |
| 09:39.29 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 09:39.29 | CIA-22 | - Add Babble-Race to externals and TOC. |
| 09:40.20 | Antiarc | phyber: Any particular reason Omen needs Babble-Race? |
| 09:41.17 | phyber | Antiarc: because Threat-1.0 needs it? |
| 09:41.19 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40184 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 09:41.19 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 09:41.19 | CIA-22 | - removed that extra \n from item tooltips in the menu |
| 09:41.19 | CIA-22 | - menu color changed |
| 09:41.36 | phyber | Omen\Libs\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Warlock.lua:25: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Race-2.2. |
| 09:42.07 | Antiarc | Ooh, right, that was changed earlier today |
| 09:42.13 | Tem | ugh |
| 09:42.14 | phyber | :) |
| 09:42.19 | Tem | library interdependencies |
| 09:42.22 | Tem | -- |
| 09:42.29 | nevcairiel | threat is teh complex now :( |
| 09:42.35 | Antiarc | Given Threat's complexity, I have less of an issue with it than I would normally. |
| 09:42.47 | Antiarc | To appease you, I give you http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1890/fontsizesvj8.jpg |
| 09:42.48 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt really call threat a real library anymore |
| 09:42.52 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r40185 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc libs/): |
| 09:42.52 | CIA-22 | PitBull: |
| 09:42.52 | CIA-22 | - Add Babble-Race to externals and TOC. |
| 09:42.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40186 10PitBull/ (7 files in 7 dirs): |
| 09:42.54 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add options to icons. Make all icon options groups now. |
| 09:42.54 | CIA-22 | - add ability to scale icons arbitrary [50%, 400%]. |
| 09:42.55 | CIA-22 | - icons can now be positioned arbitrarily. |
| 09:42.58 | Antiarc | Threat's a weird pseudo kinda-library. |
| 09:42.58 | Tem | think back to configuring a linux mail server and say that again |
| 09:43.16 | Tem | dependency hell is not a fun place to be |
| 09:43.28 | Antiarc | Agreed, but we have cut a lot out of it |
| 09:43.29 | ckknight | that's why we use apt-get |
| 09:43.32 | nevcairiel | *shrug* go away with linux mail servers! |
| 09:43.39 | Antiarc | No AceModuleCore or AceConsole, thanks to ckknight |
| 09:43.45 | ckknight | or AceAddon |
| 09:43.49 | Fin | FreeBSD ruleZ 0K!! |
| 09:44.02 | ckknight | Somebody test PitBull's icon positioning system. |
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| 09:44.28 | nevcairiel | that reminds me |
| 09:44.34 | nevcairiel | i run threat but no UI whatsoever |
| 09:44.48 | Fisker- | installs lololol |
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| 09:45.00 | nevcairiel | shuddup |
| 09:45.21 | ckknight | blah |
| 09:45.44 | Fisker- | bleh? |
| 09:46.14 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r40187 10Violation/ (Violation.toc libs/): |
| 09:46.14 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 09:46.14 | CIA-22 | - Add Babble-Race to externals and TOC. |
| 09:46.52 | ckknight | Fisker-: the second part of your comment is a flame, I recommend removing it. |
| 09:47.14 | ckknight | the quote has no relevance. |
| 09:47.42 | Antiarc | Heh, you know... |
| 09:47.49 | Antiarc | This is kinda open-source flamewarring. |
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| 09:47.58 | wobin_ | ckknight: It's amusing though =) |
| 09:48.01 | Antiarc | Flame someone, someone else comes along and peer reviews, helps refine the flame. |
| 09:48.07 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:48.22 | ckknight | Fisker-: basically, you took the wrong paragraph |
| 09:48.34 | ckknight | Fisker-: replace it with the paragraph prior where the guy says to stop using a 386 |
| 09:48.47 | Fin | is this on the Curse thread still? |
| 09:48.51 | wobin_ | yeah |
| 09:48.56 | Fin | awesome |
| 09:49.15 | wobin_ | ckknight: Nah, he's just saying what's good for the gander is good for the goose |
| 09:49.29 | wobin_ | You can say: omg, get a better computer |
| 09:49.35 | Fin | what's... what's a gander? |
| 09:49.36 | wobin_ | but then we can say omg get a better class =P |
| 09:49.50 | wobin_ | Male goose |
| 09:49.53 | Fin | oh! |
| 09:49.54 | Fin | thanks |
| 09:50.09 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 09:50.15 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 09:50.21 | ckknight | I think it's just a flame, though |
| 09:52.06 | wobin_ | Naturally |
| 09:52.08 | wobin_ | since it is =) |
| 09:52.16 | Tem | Fisker-, I agree with him |
| 09:52.20 | Tem | it's a flame |
| 09:52.27 | phyber | does the [Cu] next to Kaelten's name on Curse mean he's in the guild or something? |
| 09:52.35 | wobin_ | he's a curse admin |
| 09:52.37 | Tem | he's site staff |
| 09:52.39 | phyber | ah |
| 09:52.40 | ckknight | no, it means he works for Curse |
| 09:52.41 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:52.56 | phyber | don't browse the site enough to know :) |
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| 09:57.41 | Tem | I _never_ go there |
| 09:57.45 | Tem | curse is evil |
| 09:57.53 | Tem | I will never host my addons there again |
| 09:57.59 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 09:58.14 | phyber | I tried to, once. when I couldn't find where to actually upload the addon after typing the name, that pretty much ended my attempt. |
| 09:58.33 | Tem | NeT is a total asshat |
| 09:58.39 | Tem | among other things |
| 09:58.56 | Tem | They infringed on my copyright and refused to admit any wrongdoing |
| 09:59.07 | Tem | and instead of an apology, they flamed me on their forums |
| 09:59.22 | ckknight | that was an odd flamewar. |
| 09:59.23 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40188 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 09:59.23 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 09:59.23 | CIA-22 | - hardcoded workaround for !gem red returning the reducing threat metagem |
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| 09:59.31 | nevcairiel | i am way too lazy to read comments there, so i only upload once in a while :x |
| 09:59.33 | ckknight | part of me blames Cairenn for that |
| 09:59.42 | ckknight | the flamewar, not the copyright infringement |
| 09:59.45 | Antiarc | Ok, I'm trying to validate a dewdrop "text" field against a table, but it's giving me text entry, rather than a list |
| 09:59.59 | ckknight | Antiarc: pastey |
| 10:00.26 | Tem | The flamewar was because NeT and some random curse mod refused to admit that I had a legal right to refuse them distributing privillage on my addons |
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| 10:00.34 | Tem | not anything said by Cair |
| 10:00.42 | Tem | she merely called them on their rude policy |
| 10:01.22 | Antiarc | http://ace.pastey.net/56961 |
| 10:01.28 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 10:01.37 | Tem | and besides that, there are a lot of underhanded practices by them which I will not mention here |
| 10:01.45 | Tem | I just have no respect for them |
| 10:01.48 | ckknight | I believe their policy has changed on that issue, potentially because of said flamewar |
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| 10:02.00 | Tem | so I don't give them traffic by posting my addons there |
| 10:02.10 | Antiarc | No ideas? |
| 10:02.10 | Tem | because traffic = money |
| 10:02.31 | ckknight | Antiarc: whole code |
| 10:02.59 | Tem | Antiarc, l2indentation |
| 10:03.04 | Antiarc | Tem, refresh :P |
| 10:03.20 | Punkie` | Can I just ask, where is "there"? :) |
| 10:03.26 | Antiarc | ckknight: You probably don't want it all, it's a lot :P |
| 10:03.27 | Tem | I still can't read it |
| 10:03.28 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater |
| 10:03.35 | ckknight | Punkie`: curse |
| 10:03.41 | ckknight | Antiarc: just give it |
| 10:03.42 | Punkie` | ah fair enough |
| 10:03.44 | ckknight | :-P |
| 10:03.45 | Antiarc | Heh, okay |
| 10:03.52 | ckknight | I don't have any real beef with curse |
| 10:04.13 | Fisker- | I hate how they kept killing teh site! |
| 10:04.24 | Fisker- | Curse v1 was probably the best site ever |
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| 10:04.27 | Punkie` | yep |
| 10:04.30 | Punkie` | I hate the new one |
| 10:04.30 | Fisker- | Now it's just slow and confusing |
| 10:04.32 | Antiarc | http://ace.pastey.net/56962 <-- line 82 is where I'm having problems |
| 10:04.35 | Tem | well, I like that they're trying to improve the site |
| 10:04.36 | ckknight | curse v4 goes beta in a week |
| 10:04.41 | Punkie` | but I never download from there |
| 10:04.41 | Tem | but... |
| 10:04.42 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:04.47 | Fisker- | zinor don't want to give me access! |
| 10:04.48 | Punkie` | wowinterface/svn ftw |
| 10:05.02 | Tem | Fisker-, that's because he's the biggest asshat of them all |
| 10:05.13 | Tem | ugh |
| 10:05.20 | Fisker- | :P |
| 10:05.21 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r40189 10Prat/Prat_AutoLoD/autolod.lua: Prat_AutoLoD: updated to honour "Hide startup spam" if set |
| 10:05.24 | Tem | I shudder when I think about kael having to work with him on a daily basis |
| 10:05.33 | Tem | I'd _never_ make it |
| 10:05.35 | ckknight | Antiarc: pretty simple issue. |
| 10:05.37 | Antiarc | http://i9.tinypic.com/688hwxu.jpg |
| 10:05.43 | Antiarc | That's what it's ending up as. |
| 10:05.43 | Tem | I'd have murdered him or quit by now |
| 10:05.48 | ckknight | Antiarc: basically, you create .SkinList after that file is called |
| 10:05.55 | Antiarc | Oh. Hrm. |
| 10:06.08 | ckknight | lol, zinor gave me access |
| 10:06.12 | Antiarc | Is it possible to fenagle an AceOptions table into presenting a dynamic list? |
| 10:06.19 | ckknight | I said hi to him, he told me to check out the site :-P |
| 10:06.24 | Fisker- | bah |
| 10:06.27 | ckknight | then I told him what I found wrong with it |
| 10:06.28 | MoonWolf | Antiarc, i'm sure it is. |
| 10:06.31 | Fisker- | I helped him with v2 and v3 |
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| 10:06.35 | Fisker- | i don't even get access to v4 |
| 10:06.35 | Fisker- | omg |
| 10:06.36 | ckknight | Antiarc: yes, create .SkinList beforehand and then alter it at whim. |
| 10:06.49 | ckknight | Fisker-: how did you help him? |
| 10:06.52 | Antiarc | Ah, ok. |
| 10:07.31 | Fisker- | mostly just some layout issues with IE7 |
| 10:07.39 | nevcairiel | i find it quite funny that someone always keeps uploading new versions of bartender3 to curse, even tho i didnt :P |
| 10:07.49 | Punkie` | haha |
| 10:07.51 | Fisker- | not any codehelp just told him what was wrong like you :P |
| 10:08.01 | Silviu- | nevcairiel u update a keylogger ! |
| 10:08.03 | ckknight | Fisker-: I've helped him with code :-P |
| 10:08.23 | ckknight | I was also the one who convinced them to go with Django |
| 10:08.24 | ckknight | :-P |
| 10:08.38 | Fisker- | Django? |
| 10:08.41 | nevcairiel | Silviu-: nah its always one of their funny mods who wants to be smart again :P |
| 10:08.54 | Silviu- | buuuuuuuut |
| 10:09.05 | Silviu- | # |
| 10:09.06 | Silviu- | Project Manager: |
| 10:09.06 | Silviu- | Nevcairiel |
| 10:09.09 | Silviu- | Ups, srry |
| 10:09.44 | ckknight | Fisker-: web framework built on python |
| 10:09.55 | Fisker- | alright |
| 10:09.55 | nevcairiel | anyway, i guess i will only release on WoWI for my next addons |
| 10:10.00 | Fisker- | Something like AJAX just better then? |
| 10:10.13 | Silviu- | nevcairiel how is bt4 comming along ? |
| 10:10.19 | nevcairiel | not much |
| 10:10.23 | nevcairiel | had a lot of work todo |
| 10:10.27 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 10:10.33 | Fisker- | that reminds me |
| 10:10.35 | ckknight | no, Fisker- |
| 10:10.39 | Fisker- | i gotta install it and bug you about bugs nevcairiel |
| 10:10.55 | nevcairiel | it will only clutter your screen with 10 dummy bars |
| 10:10.57 | ckknight | nevcairiel: meh, I don't really release on WoWI anymore |
| 10:10.59 | nevcairiel | and nothing more :P |
| 10:11.03 | Fisker- | 10 seconds later, CIA announces that Bartender4 was removed from branches |
| 10:11.04 | Fisker- | :P |
| 10:11.11 | ckknight | too low ROI |
| 10:11.21 | Silviu- | roi ? |
| 10:11.27 | ckknight | return on investment |
| 10:11.36 | Dustwhisper | Any reagent refiller mods? That will ask if if you want to restock reagents and automaticly buy so you have XX complete stacks of each reagent |
| 10:11.37 | nevcairiel | i like being abel to say "use the release site if you want a stable version" |
| 10:11.41 | nevcairiel | since those always work |
| 10:11.59 | Punkie` | Man, I never thought my 2on2 would make it past 1600 but now im at 1913 :D |
| 10:12.08 | Punkie` | rogue and resto shaman :D |
| 10:12.13 | nevcairiel | we are #4 on 3v3 now |
| 10:12.17 | nevcairiel | netherdrake here i come! |
| 10:12.23 | Punkie` | hehe nice :) |
| 10:12.35 | Fisker- | i hope not nevcairiel :O |
| 10:12.39 | nevcairiel | the first 10 get a drake on our pool |
| 10:12.52 | Punkie` | and you get an awesome title? :o |
| 10:12.59 | nevcairiel | i think its gladiator |
| 10:13.01 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 10:13.05 | Tem | weak |
| 10:13.55 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: FreeRefills |
| 10:14.07 | phyber | should get the title of Spartan. |
| 10:14.14 | Mikk | It'll refill whatever. Not just reagents. It won't ask though, it just refills when you're at a vendor. |
| 10:15.43 | Dustwhisper | thx Mikk |
| 10:15.55 | Dustwhisper | can you set how much you want of each in inventory? |
| 10:16.02 | Mikk | yes |
| 10:17.47 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40190 10ClassTimer/Locales/koKR.lua: ClassTimer: koKR Update |
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| 10:18.36 | Fin | FreeRefills doesn't work with the bank |
| 10:19.03 | Fin | it's fine with vendors, but it never refills stuff from my bank |
| 10:19.28 | Adirelle | finally, Very Bad Things ain't so good that I remembered |
| 10:20.08 | Fin | it's good if you're high |
| 10:20.31 | Fin | so I've heard |
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| 10:22.15 | Gngsk | how would I manipulate the dewdrop of a tablet, like add an option above the defaults. kinda how questfu does |
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| 10:27.41 | Hajitorus | I've noticed that FreeRefills sometimes has a bit of trouble with stacks of water, too. Had to tell it to buy 8, instead of 40. |
| 10:28.26 | Hajitorus | But it's great. :) |
| 10:29.46 | Fin | it's one of my favourite addons ever |
| 10:29.55 | Antiarc | MUAHAHAH |
| 10:29.56 | Antiarc | It works! |
| 10:30.01 | Antiarc | This is sexytime. |
| 10:30.02 | nevcairiel | what works? |
| 10:31.46 | MoonWolf | Antiarc, what did you do this time ? |
| 10:31.58 | MoonWolf | oh and someone stab kenco for me. |
| 10:32.16 | Antiarc | sec, uploading screenshot |
| 10:32.24 | Antiarc | http://i17.tinypic.com/61vxisn.jpg |
| 10:32.56 | nevcairiel | oh your skins work |
| 10:33.02 | Antiarc | Yes. Yes, they do. |
| 10:33.09 | Antiarc | And they are beautiful. |
| 10:33.09 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 10:33.21 | MoonWolf | how much effort would it take you to make it look 100% like ktm ? |
| 10:33.27 | nevcairiel | i prefer the clean omen default look tho |
| 10:33.28 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:33.29 | MoonWolf | nice skinning btw. |
| 10:33.40 | Antiarc | It'd require some additional frames, but not difficult. |
| 10:33.45 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40191 10ClassTimer/Locales/koKR.lua: ClassTimer: koKR typo fix |
| 10:33.53 | Antiarc | Would take some special cases, though, which I'm not in a hurry to do. |
| 10:34.25 | MoonWolf | I'm not asking you to do it. |
| 10:34.33 | MoonWolf | there would be very little point |
| 10:35.50 | Athou | ckknight: using latest rev, I disabled the health text module for playerunit by mistake and now it's gone from the menu, and I can't get it back |
| 10:36.10 | ckknight | Athou: Other texts |
| 10:36.32 | Athou | ah right, thanks :) |
| 10:37.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40192 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - change placement of "Other texts" option |
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| 10:39.16 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: doubleclicking doesn't work well for fubar plugins as it issues a normal click as well |
| 10:39.21 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: I suggest a modifier key |
| 10:39.34 | [Ammo] | for the waterfall menu |
| 10:40.07 | Athou | ckknight: I've got my old layout back using the new ABF, nice work |
| 10:40.22 | ckknight | :-) |
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| 10:41.43 | Antiarc | I'm starting to agree! |
| 10:42.55 | MoonWolf | certain unitframe layouts are like forever |
| 10:43.23 | MoonWolf | like abf, or perl |
| 10:44.24 | ckknight | Antiarc: agree to what? |
| 10:45.05 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r40193 10Bartender4/Bartender4/Buttons.lua: Bartender4: some documentation and reordering |
| 10:45.19 | Antiarc | That double-clicking on the fubar is clunky |
| 10:45.30 | nevcairiel | it toggles the click as well |
| 10:45.31 | [Ammo] | it's not clunky, it's broken :) |
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| 10:47.36 | odt | anyone know bout this error? starting yesterday, i cannot reaload the index using WAU |
| 10:47.42 | odt | Error loading addon list. An exception occurred during a WebClient request. |
| 10:48.01 | odt | using the latest version from sf |
| 10:48.08 | ckknight | [Ammo]: I blame Blizz's system |
| 10:53.16 | Adirelle | Antiarc: could you add http://ace.pastey.net/56966 (drycoded) |
| 10:53.18 | Adirelle | ? |
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| 11:03.10 | ckknight | Adirelle: don't understand why you took out the check in CHAT_MSG_ADDON |
| 11:03.19 | Adirelle | ckknight: master target |
| 11:03.25 | ckknight | ah. |
| 11:03.28 | ckknight | crafty |
| 11:04.24 | Adirelle | even if we drop threat broadcasts, we want to listen to master target settings |
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| 11:14.22 | ckknight | but we only drop them if they don't have Threat-1.0 |
| 11:14.35 | ckknight | actually, *shrug* |
| 11:14.36 | ckknight | whatever |
| 11:21.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40194 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed pet skills. Looks like they kept getting stuck into a player-started transaction thanks to an overeager comment-out last night. Oops. |
| 11:21.37 | Diao | does anyone know exactly how long making a bid on an item adds to the auction time? |
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| 11:24.08 | CIA-22 | 03akx * r40195 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/ (EmoteFu.lua FuBar_EmoteFu2.toc): FuBar_EmoteFu2: Overdue TOC update, added sort by animation |
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| 11:41.40 | Fisker- | kenco wanted trolling :O |
| 11:41.44 | Fisker- | Now he's gonna get it |
| 11:41.56 | Mikk | sigh, jsut drop that sad thread |
| 11:42.11 | Mikk | there's a huge risk of it backfiring on the ace community as a whole |
| 11:42.19 | ckknight | srsly, Fisker- |
| 11:42.21 | ckknight | you're fucking things up |
| 11:42.28 | Mikk | kenco is incredibly popular in the user population |
| 11:42.29 | Fisker- | so is he |
| 11:42.47 | Mikk | let him |
| 11:43.08 | ckknight | delete your comment. |
| 11:43.09 | ckknight | now. |
| 11:43.41 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40197 10/branches/Omen/ (6 files): Omen: Skin fixes commit to branch, prepare for merge |
| 11:43.45 | Fisker- | If people want to affiliate this back to you, just delete all my accounts on wowace.com |
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| 11:44.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40198 10Assessment/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:44.09 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 11:44.09 | CIA-22 | - Removed special case code for display sets. Instead, the list type just refers to the appropriate events and it all happens automatically |
| 11:44.24 | Dustwhisper | what thread? |
| 11:44.28 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r40199 10/branches/OneView/ (. Nemes/ Nemes/OneView.lua): Fix bug with viewing across faction. |
| 11:44.36 | ckknight | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 11:44.49 | Mikk | Fisker-: "If"? That's not an If. That's a certainty. |
| 11:45.29 | ckknight | he left |
| 11:45.46 | trh | ckknight: awesome that he uses "1%" of processor.... would be easy to proof on a duron 800 or something ;) |
| 11:45.57 | Antiarc | trh: http://blog.antiarc.net |
| 11:45.58 | ckknight | I was gonna kickban him until he removed the comment, but that's kind of a moot point now |
| 11:46.05 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40200 10OneView/OneView.lua: Removed file/folder |
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| 11:46.13 | ckknight | Antiarc: when do you want to post that? cause I mean, he's asking for numbes |
| 11:46.14 | Dustwhisper | I don't quite understand the discussion at all |
| 11:46.16 | ckknight | numbers* |
| 11:46.19 | Dustwhisper | if he wants to code KTM as he does |
| 11:46.21 | Dustwhisper | and users like it |
| 11:46.24 | Antiarc | ckknight: I'm gonna spend more time benchmarking it tomorrow |
| 11:46.26 | Dustwhisper | then let them use it and let him do as he wishes |
| 11:46.29 | Antiarc | Build up a really nice series of tests |
| 11:46.32 | Dustwhisper | no need to be a retarded zealot |
| 11:46.35 | ckknight | Dustwhisper: mmm... nah |
| 11:46.45 | Mikk | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ <-- everyone thumbsdown fisker's shit here please |
| 11:47.05 | ckknight | an informed zealot can be useful |
| 11:47.15 | Antiarc | Argh. TortoiseSVN's merge irritates me |
| 11:47.31 | Antiarc | You have to merge "from" old code "to" new code. |
| 11:47.33 | Tornhoof | tortoisesvn always irritates me |
| 11:47.34 | Antiarc | That doesn't make sense :/ |
| 11:47.43 | Tornhoof | is that rapidsvn client usable by now? |
| 11:47.58 | Antiarc | I love tortoise except for branch merging |
| 11:47.59 | trh | Antiarc: nice idea, when your benchmark is complete, it's "in your face, kenco" ;) |
| 11:48.13 | ckknight | right, trh |
| 11:48.21 | ckknight | not until it's complete, though |
| 11:48.48 | Antiarc | It's enough to be reasonably believable to the unbiased, but it needs to be unassailable to dent Kenco's position |
| 11:48.53 | Antiarc | Which means more comprehensive tests |
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| 11:49.28 | trh | Antiarc: you should test it under real circumstances too.. small raid or sth :) |
| 11:50.17 | trh | Antiarc: as the overall cpu usage is higher ktm should theoretically perform alot worse (%-wise) |
| 11:50.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40201 10Omen/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Omen: Merged in the branch changes, skinning is now in Omen, including four default skins (Default, Minimal, ClearTech, and KTM) |
| 11:51.21 | Antiarc | ^---- hotness, btw |
| 11:52.18 | trh | omg.. those pie charts from GraphLib are pure awesomeness :) |
| 11:53.03 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40202 10OneView/1075/ (. OneView/ OneView/OneView.lua): |
| 11:53.03 | CIA-22 | Fix Ticket 1075: |
| 11:53.03 | CIA-22 | http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1075 |
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| 11:53.25 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40203 10Omen/DefaultSkins.lua: Omen: Let's give the KTM skin a red aggro bar by default |
| 11:53.44 | simeng | haha.. ktm skin for omen? |
| 11:54.08 | Antiarc | It was a suggestion in the EJ threat |
| 11:54.10 | Antiarc | thread* |
| 11:54.15 | simeng | nice |
| 11:54.15 | Antiarc | Give people an easy transition time :) |
| 11:54.30 | Antiarc | http://i17.tinypic.com/61vxisn.jpg <-- ktm's the bottom one |
| 11:55.13 | simeng | sweet, need to update and try it out :) |
| 11:55.50 | trh | Antiarc: btw: one user in our raid asked me if it was possible to set omen to a fixed size without growing... :) |
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| 11:56.11 | wobin_ | I like TortoiseSVN's move function |
| 11:56.14 | wobin_ | and that's it =P |
| 11:56.29 | wobin_ | The ability to drag/drop move files/folders in a svn is the only selling point =P |
| 11:56.33 | trh | i dislike that tortoise seems to like to crash my explorer :( |
| 11:56.42 | wobin_ | Yeah |
| 11:56.47 | wobin_ | it's horror on the explorer |
| 11:56.49 | Antiarc | Hrm. I guess I could add an option for that. Wouldn't be hard. |
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| 11:56.54 | trh | (win vista buisiness x64) |
| 11:57.04 | wobin_ | well there's half your problem there =) |
| 11:57.13 | trh | Antiarc: would be great... but not too important i guess :) |
| 11:57.20 | trh | wobin_: i know... :( |
| 11:58.17 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40204 10OneView/TotalFactionGold/ (. OneView/ OneView/OneView.lua): Clone fix for ticked 1075 |
| 11:58.33 | wobin_ | I need a good accounting addon =\ |
| 11:58.42 | wobin_ | So I can figure out how far to my flying mount |
| 11:58.59 | wobin_ | Then again, I'm really not looking forward to raiding with my priestess =\ |
| 11:59.25 | nevcairiel | what does a flying mount have todo with raiding? |
| 11:59.37 | Mikk | can't raid without a flying mount |
| 11:59.38 | wobin_ | well for kara keying =) |
| 11:59.45 | Mikk | ^ |
| 11:59.47 | trh | wobin_: uh? just farm instead of figuring out how long to go and you get it ;) |
| 11:59.55 | nevcairiel | oh you dont have a slow mount? |
| 11:59.57 | wobin_ | trh: It's an excuse =) |
| 12:00.07 | Mikk | wobin_: AllPlayed shows all your cash across all toons |
| 12:00.14 | trh | wobin_: i farmed my epic flying mount in like a week :) |
| 12:00.18 | Mikk | also tells you how little a life you have :P |
| 12:00.37 | wobin_ | what did you do for cash, trh? |
| 12:00.40 | Wixi | Antiarc: I like the idea of skins :D |
| 12:00.44 | Mikk | quests prolly? |
| 12:00.48 | Mikk | that's how i got my cash |
| 12:00.53 | trh | wobin_: i farmed primal mana and primal fire and sold them on the AH |
| 12:01.01 | Mikk | of course, if you level only on quests.... that's screwed :P |
| 12:01.19 | wobin_ | Hehe I can't instance my way to 70 |
| 12:01.20 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r40205 10/branches/OneStorage/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Branch from trunk |
| 12:01.34 | wobin_ | woo, what's happening to onestorage? |
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| 12:01.55 | trh | wobin_: if you're 70 you usually got enough money for the normal flying mount |
| 12:02.03 | wobin_ | normally |
| 12:02.03 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40206 10OneStorage/TotalFactionGold/OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0.lua: Removed file/folder |
| 12:02.06 | trh | wobin_: with abt 1000g left after questing |
| 12:02.15 | wobin_ | I went and ground for the talbuk |
| 12:02.28 | Dustwhisper | could someone suggest a) A good bagmod with sections that you can configure yourself, even where in frame the sections are b) A good tooltip mod ? |
| 12:02.40 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40207 10OneStorage/TotalFactionGold/OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/ (. OneStorage-2.0.lua): Branch from http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/OneStorage/ |
| 12:02.45 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: Baggins. TinyTip |
| 12:02.46 | trh | Dustwhisper: i use tinytip and i'm happy with it :) |
| 12:02.46 | wobin_ | Dustwhisper: b) TinyTip |
| 12:03.00 | wobin_ | I don't think you can do the latter with baggins |
| 12:03.08 | Mikk | You can rearrange the order of the sections |
| 12:03.11 | Dustwhisper | i use baggins, the sections in baggins are buggy/weird as hell |
| 12:03.15 | wobin_ | I want them not to move =\ |
| 12:03.16 | Dustwhisper | can never get it to show the way i want it to |
| 12:03.30 | wobin_ | It makes swapping in and out equipment irritating at times |
| 12:03.31 | Mikk | Turn off auto rearranging of sections |
| 12:03.53 | Dustwhisper | and i hate the sorting in baggins aswell, it's just weird |
| 12:04.00 | wobin_ | I always have to go look and find where the replaced item went |
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| 12:04.25 | Mikk | Yeah, I want sorting specified per section too |
| 12:04.25 | Dustwhisper | ye exactly |
| 12:04.30 | Dustwhisper | it's annoying as hell |
| 12:04.42 | wobin_ | It might even push me to finish rewriting mrplow =P |
| 12:04.51 | wobin_ | but I'm so apathetic =P |
| 12:04.55 | Mikk | Like for gear, you'd be able to specify "unsorted" or "sorted by slot" |
| 12:05.00 | Dustwhisper | aye |
| 12:05.05 | Dustwhisper | and id love a bagmod that supported "new" |
| 12:05.11 | wobin_ | Well Baggins does |
| 12:05.11 | Dustwhisper | anything you pickup got sorted into it's own section |
| 12:05.15 | wobin_ | oh |
| 12:05.20 | Dustwhisper | so you could more easily find all the crap you picked up |
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| 12:05.21 | wobin_ | for how long, though? |
| 12:05.28 | Mikk | until you reset it |
| 12:05.31 | Dustwhisper | until you tag it |
| 12:05.35 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 12:05.36 | Mikk | it'd be child's play to add a filter like that to baggins tbh |
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| 12:05.43 | Nargiddley | i could probably hack in a sort by slot setting pretty fast, dunno about per section tho :P |
| 12:05.55 | Mikk | GIFV |
| 12:05.59 | wobin_ | Nargiddley: How about nonsorted? |
| 12:06.17 | wobin_ | I'd like to be able to swap in and out of a pair of items without having to move my cursor |
| 12:06.30 | wobin_ | although sort by slot might fix that |
| 12:06.33 | Nargiddley | has to sort by something, slot order in the bags would do that |
| 12:07.06 | Nargiddley | non sorted would be whatever order the slots are in a table after filtering |
| 12:07.14 | Nargiddley | so worse than now |
| 12:07.15 | Nargiddley | heh |
| 12:07.23 | wobin_ | good point |
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| 12:07.33 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins2_wishlist |
| 12:07.49 | Nargiddley | and compression won't work with a sort that doesnt keep same items together |
| 12:08.28 | Dustwhisper | would be nice if you could set how sections are shown aswell |
| 12:08.34 | Dustwhisper | eg X by X at top left |
| 12:08.42 | Dustwhisper | and Y b X on the right of that again |
| 12:08.43 | wobin_ | ah you're doing compression by section, are you? |
| 12:08.57 | Nargiddley | compression is just a big hack heh |
| 12:09.06 | Mikk | i don't use compression at all |
| 12:09.14 | Nargiddley | even for empty slots ? |
| 12:09.17 | Mikk | make splitting stuff off and giving to others impossible |
| 12:09.21 | Mikk | yeah ok empty slots |
| 12:09.38 | wobin_ | you could modify MrPlow's to only figure out a certain subset of slots to compress |
| 12:09.39 | Nargiddley | cause even that could end up acting funky |
| 12:09.56 | Mikk | compression could be usable if recently-split stuff was shown separately |
| 12:10.02 | Mikk | or new stuff for that matter |
| 12:10.19 | Nargiddley | theres an option to turn it off quickly now |
| 12:10.25 | Nargiddley | right click a bag title |
| 12:10.30 | Mikk | "Some way of "Marking" an (stack of) item. Via alt+rightclick -> "Mark", and also having splitting items auto-mark them. "Marked" items would end up in a new section in the bag. Very handy if you're e.g. prepping something to give away, or making sure you have materials to craft an item, etc..." |
| 12:10.49 | Mikk | bag title only? |
| 12:10.59 | Mikk | the menu i added was rightclick anywhere |
| 12:11.06 | Mikk | except on items and section headings ofc |
| 12:11.08 | Nargiddley | k wasnt sure about that :P |
| 12:11.14 | Mikk | ah ok |
| 12:11.35 | Mikk | ok, just wanted to make sure you were using that menu and not some other one =) |
| 12:11.50 | Dustwhisper | anyways it would be nice if you could section it more like that |
| 12:12.01 | Nargiddley | i do want to fix alot of the issues, but it needs a rewrite of at least the layout and filtering :/ |
| 12:12.06 | Dustwhisper | eg when I open baggins i want to see a section of the exact potions i want to see at a specific position on the screen |
| 12:12.14 | Dustwhisper | not randomly thrown around by sectionincreases etc |
| 12:12.25 | Nargiddley | Dustwhisper, turn off "Optimize Section Layout" |
| 12:12.35 | Dustwhisper | i saw a bagmod like that the other day in a screen, just forgot where =D |
| 12:12.53 | Mikk | I'd want a mode that "optimizes" but keeps in order myself.. ie lets stuff display on the same line.. but never reorders |
| 12:13.17 | Nargiddley | yeah, the bag display is one of the less worked on areas |
| 12:13.30 | wobin_ | Dustwhisper: Was it EngInv? =) |
| 12:13.54 | Dustwhisper | Show me a screen please =D |
| 12:14.22 | wobin_ | I refuse |
| 12:14.27 | wobin_ | cause EngInv is refuse |
| 12:14.36 | wobin_ | It's the main cause for all the new bagmods =P |
| 12:14.45 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: Actually, baggins can do what you want now |
| 12:14.50 | wobin_ | Much like how KTM was the cause for Omen =P |
| 12:14.52 | Mikk | You just have to separate the sections into bags |
| 12:15.05 | Mikk | Bags can be sized and moved independently |
| 12:16.00 | Mikk | wobin_: tbh, for gear swappage, use SwapMagic |
| 12:16.12 | wobin_ | what's it do? |
| 12:16.38 | Mikk | Open char sheet, mouse over an equipment slot, hold alt, and whoopie, a pane pops out with all gear for that slot |
| 12:16.49 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40208 10OneStorage/TotalFactionGold/OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: Add GetServerFactionMoney, which retrieves the total money held by all characters of the same faction on that server. |
| 12:17.07 | wobin_ | hm |
| 12:17.16 | wobin_ | It's not something I do often, mind you |
| 12:17.22 | wobin_ | Just whenever I get a new item |
| 12:17.35 | wobin_ | But that sounds cool =) |
| 12:17.45 | wobin_ | linky? |
| 12:17.51 | Mikk | files.wowace |
| 12:17.55 | wobin_ | easy |
| 12:18.12 | Nargiddley | Mikk, i'm thinking now that i'll end up working on Baggins instead of starting over |
| 12:18.22 | wobin_ | python wowace.py SwapMagic |
| 12:18.25 | wobin_ | and done =P |
| 12:18.33 | Mikk | Oooh, I also want an "Always sort new stuff first" option |
| 12:18.35 | wobin_ | I <3 Kemayo |
| 12:18.36 | Mikk | Nargiddley: yay =) |
| 12:19.01 | Dustwhisper | LOL WHY wobin_ ? refuse that is |
| 12:19.04 | Nargiddley | probably have to branch it when i get ready for the big overhaul tho |
| 12:19.04 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40209 10OneView/TotalFactionGold/OneView/OneView.xml: Branch from trunk |
| 12:19.13 | wobin_ | Dustwhisper: it's a horribly bloated mod |
| 12:19.21 | wobin_ | people only used it for the functionality |
| 12:19.26 | wobin_ | and hated it for what it was |
| 12:19.42 | wobin_ | and then everyone swapped over to Baggins and ArkInv and similar once they appeared |
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| 12:20.52 | CIA-22 | 03ricowan * r40210 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc): |
| 12:20.52 | CIA-22 | RicoMiniMap: |
| 12:20.52 | CIA-22 | - Added a toggle for the game time button |
| 12:20.52 | CIA-22 | - Added a slider for the zone text location |
| 12:21.05 | Nargiddley | actually I started baggins when Adv Bags Plus started getting annoying to hack to make work with new patches heh |
| 12:21.44 | Nargiddley | hence the seperate bags rather than an all in one with section focus |
| 12:21.45 | Dustwhisper | How is arkinv compared to baggins |
| 12:21.54 | wobin_ | ps ckknight |
| 12:21.58 | Dustwhisper | everytime i read "Baggins" i think of teabagging someone |
| 12:21.58 | ckknight_ | what? |
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| 12:22.06 | wobin_ | Your post on the kencodebacle |
| 12:22.13 | ckknight_ | yea? |
| 12:22.15 | wobin_ | It sounds like Troy McClure =P |
| 12:22.23 | ckknight_ | howso? |
| 12:22.42 | wobin_ | Hi, My name's CkKnight, you may have seen me in such addons, such as FuBar.... |
| 12:22.46 | wobin_ | =) |
| 12:22.53 | ckknight_ | lol. |
| 12:23.03 | Dustwhisper | oh he did fubar =D |
| 12:23.07 | Dustwhisper | did not know |
| 12:23.32 | wobin_ | We managed to convince him to stop naming his mods after himself =) |
| 12:23.54 | ckknight_ | Dustwhisper: I've done a lot of things |
| 12:24.03 | Mikk | ckknight_: I had a brainstorm with rophy just now about LoDness and fubar addons.... how about making FuBar a load manager for fubar addons? Cache their position and display some default icon & text (specificed by toc metadata). Load the addon when the fake tablet is clicked? |
| 12:24.31 | wobin_ | Interesting |
| 12:24.35 | ckknight_ | hrm... I think the LoadManager position now is good |
| 12:24.44 | ckknight_ | plus, the text itself can change (e.g. PerfFu) |
| 12:24.54 | Wixi | all this talk of Baggins has made me want to reconfigure my bags liek i keep meaning to, but just noticed "PT3 LoD Modules" what does it use these for? |
| 12:25.12 | Mikk | Nargiddley: See? You should ahve done what I said :P |
| 12:25.53 | Dustwhisper | just downloaded and started reading tutorials today |
| 12:25.55 | Dustwhisper | to make my first mod =D |
| 12:25.56 | Mikk | Wixi: One method of filtering is by PeriodicTable datasets. However, when PeriodicTable is running in Load-on-Demand mode, you won't see sets that haven't gotten loaded yet. That thing forces them to load. |
| 12:26.08 | Dustwhisper | got two mods i want to make |
| 12:26.21 | Mikk | ckknight_: Which loadmanager position? |
| 12:26.21 | Wixi | Mikk: Thank you |
| 12:26.34 | ckknight_ | Mikk: FuBar can act as a loadmanager |
| 12:26.39 | Mikk | It CAN? |
| 12:26.43 | Mikk | I missed that totally |
| 12:26.46 | ckknight_ | indoor voice. |
| 12:26.47 | ckknight_ | yes. |
| 12:26.54 | ckknight_ | see FuBar_PerformanceFu for example |
| 12:27.16 | wobin_ | hm, anyone know of a nice small function that can format numbers nicely in thousands etc with commas et al? |
| 12:27.27 | Mikk | hahahahaha |
| 12:27.34 | Mikk | not _that_ discussion again please :-P |
| 12:27.40 | trh | wobin_: can't format from lua do that? |
| 12:27.46 | wobin_ | omg, can it? |
| 12:27.53 | Mikk | no, it can't. and neither can it predict the locale |
| 12:28.02 | wobin_ | alas |
| 12:28.23 | Mikk | there's "1,000.000", "1 000,000", "1'000.000", "1.000,000" locales |
| 12:28.27 | Mikk | and more |
| 12:28.31 | wobin_ | True |
| 12:28.54 | wobin_ | if we could have a formatstring like that |
| 12:29.00 | wobin_ | we could localise the formatstring? |
| 12:30.00 | wobin_ | it comes a little inaccurate at more complex numbers |
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| 12:30.40 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40211 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (Grobbulus.lua Thaddius.lua): BigWigs_Naxxramas: Thaddius: bugfix |
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| 12:34.00 | Wixi | Trying to redo Baggins, the only way i can sort things using PT3 options is PTSer:Gear.Socketed.Head is there anyway i can change it so it will include unsocketed items? or am i being totally blind |
| 12:34.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40212 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layout/ABF - allow for arbitrary positioning of bars relative to each other, e.g. power can be placed above health or cast bar on the top or portrait in the middle or whatever your heart fancies. |
| 12:34.52 | ckknight | plztest! |
| 12:34.56 | ckknight | (kthx) |
| 12:35.01 | Mikk | Wixi: If you just want to sort by gear loc, don't use PT3 sets. there's other methods for that |
| 12:35.08 | Nargiddley | Wixi, what are you trying to sort ? |
| 12:35.22 | Mikk | *filter |
| 12:36.24 | Wixi | Mikk: thanks |
| 12:36.43 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40213 10SRA/ (4 files in 3 dirs): SRA: Simply Red Adjustments |
| 12:36.43 | Wixi | Nargiddley: Basically just trying to redo all my bags from their defaults so its a bit more practical |
| 12:37.05 | Mikk | I'm half tempted to tweak up my sets to make them a bit more general and include in baggins |
| 12:37.06 | Mikk | I think they rock |
| 12:37.07 | Mikk | =P |
| 12:37.18 | Mikk | Got a separate bank bag with all my gear in it, separated by gear loc |
| 12:37.36 | Wixi | Mikk: Yeah thats the kind of thing i'm trying to set up now |
| 12:37.56 | Mikk | And for gear I carry, I just keep that section minimized and use SwapMagic + ClosetGnome |
| 12:38.10 | Mikk | Used to use ItemRack, but CG's banker is win |
| 12:38.15 | Mikk | At least after I hacked it :> |
| 12:38.17 | Wixi | for sure |
| 12:38.22 | Wixi | oh what you change? |
| 12:38.34 | Mikk | I added a "Flush and Get" |
| 12:38.42 | Wixi | oh yes |
| 12:38.42 | Mikk | So you can just check and uncheck stuff on the keep list and hit "Flush and Get" |
| 12:39.02 | Wixi | yeh i love it |
| 12:39.08 | wobin_ | Mikk: You need a toiletflush sound effect |
| 12:39.14 | Wixi | lol |
| 12:39.18 | Mikk | Manually putting gear sets in the bank has the unfortunate effect of not bloody working at all if you sets overlap |
| 12:40.13 | Mikk | wobin_: muaha, don't tempt me =) |
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| 12:40.51 | Wixi | Any reason why under "Equip Location Options" Chest is listed twice? |
| 12:41.52 | wobin_ | for the ladies |
| 12:42.01 | wobin_ | cause sometimes one breastplate isn't enough |
| 12:42.08 | Wixi | hehe |
| 12:42.59 | Nargiddley | Wixi, Robe and Chest are seperate types |
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| 12:43.00 | Nargiddley | but both go in the Chest Slot |
| 12:43.03 | Nargiddley | and i've never got around to a hack to handle it |
| 12:43.08 | Wixi | Logical... thats probably why i couldn't work it out |
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| 12:51.05 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r40214 10OneView/TotalFactionGold/OneView/ (OneView.lua OneView.xml): Add money frame which shows the total gold on the faction/server. |
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| 12:55.09 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r40215 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Don't crash on nil names when inside a disabled group |
| 12:56.55 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r40216 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Can now sort items by slot (order in default bags) Compression is disabled when this is used as it is incompatible |
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| 13:01.53 | Wixi | What category do Super Healing potions come under in PT3? I've set it up in baggins as a filter; NOT PTSet:Tradeskill.Crafted.Alchemy but they still show up |
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| 13:02.45 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40217 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
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| 13:03.11 | Mikk | Wixi: urhm.. that should work.. sec |
| 13:03.23 | Wixi | Mikk: ah its ok, i had it listed under a different category |
| 13:03.30 | Mikk | ah ok =) |
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| 13:05.55 | Zanthor | ok, TurboIRC is just about ready to piss me off |
| 13:07.08 | CIA-22 | 03arthiceu * r40218 10GearRating/ (11 files): |
| 13:07.08 | CIA-22 | GearRating: initial commit |
| 13:07.08 | CIA-22 | - Calculates a single number to indicate the quality of gear |
| 13:07.08 | CIA-22 | - Fixed mime-type settings now |
| 13:08.57 | Zanthor | anyhow, what I came here to ask today... was if anyone knows why I no longer have the Threat Velocity option in Omen... I have GraphLib, and threats working fine other than that. |
| 13:09.22 | trh | Zanthor: antiarc removed it because it wasn't possible to turn it off |
| 13:09.37 | Zanthor | doh |
| 13:09.48 | trh | but it'll probably come back sooner or later ;) |
| 13:09.58 | Zanthor | It was incredibly useful from my point of view |
| 13:10.15 | Zanthor | and while it's not a good answer, /console reloadui turned it off nicely ;) |
| 13:10.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40219 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add a blank space, which acts like a bar with no contents. icons and text can be placed inside it. |
| 13:10.36 | trh | hehe.. ya.. but i guess it'll come back |
| 13:10.53 | Zanthor | next question, anyone happen to know a decent windows IRC app thats not mIRC? |
| 13:11.45 | trh | i think there's a xchat version for windows |
| 13:11.56 | ckknight | x-chat, Zanthor |
| 13:12.05 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40220 10DBMFTLBBQ/ (. DBMFTLBBQ.lua): DBMFTLBBQ: up to version 2.7 of DBM, has anyone actually tested this yet? :P |
| 13:12.12 | wobin_ | xchat isn't too bad |
| 13:12.18 | wobin_ | lacking some stuff though |
| 13:12.27 | trh | ya.. i like mirc more.... :) |
| 13:13.32 | wobin_ | hm, has anyone encountered the problem of 'esc' not closing certain windows like characterframe etc? |
| 13:13.33 | Zanthor | Missing some stuff is GOOD |
| 13:14.07 | Zanthor | mirc is bloated for what my needs in irc are, I need to connect to this channel, it's not like I command a botnet from here |
| 13:14.11 | Zanthor | brb |
| 13:14.13 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40221 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR typo fix |
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| 13:14.51 | Mikk | zanthor: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/rt-messaging/chatzilla/ ? |
| 13:15.26 | trh | zanthor: if you're using icq/aim/msn or something it might be worth to take a look at miranda/trillian |
| 13:15.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40222 10PitBull/RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua: PitBull_RangeCheck - fix option to be just a toggle instead of a group |
| 13:15.32 | trh | zanthor: they integrate irc clients too |
| 13:15.37 | zanthor | x-chat looks to be t he answer |
| 13:16.06 | DvdKhl | wobin_ yep I have the same problem, no idea whats causing it |
| 13:16.25 | wobin_ | Do you have Lexan? |
| 13:16.45 | DvdKhl | mhh yes |
| 13:17.46 | Dustwhisper | any addon around that will show youe xact distance to a mob in yardS? |
| 13:18.39 | wobin_ | Dustwhisper: impossible, I'm afraid |
| 13:18.49 | wobin_ | DvdKhl: hm, it's a place to start looking =) |
| 13:18.53 | nevcairiel | that smooth bar movement of omen is driving me crazy |
| 13:19.30 | [dRaCo] | go ahead and write omen_barfader ;ž |
| 13:19.47 | DvdKhl | I'll try and disable it once I log on, thanks |
| 13:20.00 | nevcairiel | basicly i like it, but somehow .. it gets annoying :D |
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| 13:21.03 | Dustwhisper | my tooltips are fucked atm, im getting two tooltips at same time |
| 13:21.08 | Dustwhisper | overlayed |
| 13:21.38 | Funkeh` | ckknight: whats up with recent pitbull versions |
| 13:21.46 | ckknight | what? |
| 13:21.48 | ckknight | fixed now |
| 13:21.55 | Funkeh` | ckknight: used to be that disabled modules didn't have their menus in the frames |
| 13:22.27 | ckknight | they don't |
| 13:22.56 | Funkeh` | they do when you alt click a frame |
| 13:23.03 | ckknight | not for me |
| 13:23.04 | Funkeh` | im getting threat etc menus even with them disabled |
| 13:23.11 | ckknight | Threat bar? |
| 13:23.17 | ckknight | or Threat text? |
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| 13:24.08 | ckknight | there's a difference |
| 13:24.10 | ckknight | one is handled by a module |
| 13:24.16 | ckknight | one is just DogTag |
| 13:25.49 | CAL|SMeltn | morning |
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| 13:25.54 | CIA-22 | 03arthiceu * r40223 10GearRating/: |
| 13:25.54 | CIA-22 | GearRating: |
| 13:25.54 | CIA-22 | - Externals property has been set |
| 13:26.23 | Mikk | ckknight: ok, um... i must be missing something... how does FuBar loadmanagering work now? is the addon simply not loaded until displayed? |
| 13:27.50 | ckknight | well, if you enable it, it'll load, if it's disabled, it won't load |
| 13:28.01 | ckknight | but it's done on-the-fly |
| 13:28.07 | Mikk | ok, that's ... sort of nice i suppose |
| 13:28.14 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40224 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: deDE Update |
| 13:28.18 | Mikk | but not really _demand_ load |
| 13:28.24 | ckknight | since by its nature if you show it on the screen, it has to be loaded, that can't be made lazy |
| 13:28.25 | Mikk | that's more of a mini MCP |
| 13:28.34 | ckknight | due to the text/icon potentially changing. |
| 13:28.53 | ckknight | so your idea just won't work for FuBar plugins |
| 13:29.03 | Mikk | well of course, if you want real-time updates of stuff it'd definitely need to be loaded, obviously |
| 13:29.14 | Mikk | i was more thinking of stuff that you don't use a heck of a lot and just want to load quickly |
| 13:29.23 | Mikk | notepads.. and .. erm... stuff :P |
| 13:29.35 | ckknight | so you disable it until you use it |
| 13:29.51 | Mikk | or, heck, make oRA2 LoD via Fubar as well as Forkliftgnome |
| 13:29.56 | Mikk | Load on raid, load on click |
| 13:31.28 | ckknight | alright, I'm done hacking for now |
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| 13:31.38 | ckknight | PitBull has a lot of nice config features now |
| 13:32.06 | CAL|SMeltn | like what? |
| 13:32.07 | CAL|SMeltn | hehe |
| 13:32.14 | CAL|SMeltn | j/k <3 ck |
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| 13:40.41 | Chompers | ckk, i logged in this morning and every Bitbull frame was blank |
| 13:41.13 | Leialyn | he changed some stuff |
| 13:41.16 | Chompers | i changed the layout to something else and back again, and it all works, is that normal? |
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| 13:42.33 | Chompers | wait, only the ABF layout works |
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| 13:47.39 | dodgizzla | Yeah, nice that it everytime nukes my DogTag's.... |
| 13:47.51 | dodgizzla | Now where is that backup I made :o |
| 13:56.51 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40225 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 13:56.51 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 13:56.51 | CIA-22 | - exposing partyMemberUsesKLHTM through :GetKLHTMUsers(), |
| 13:56.51 | CIA-22 | - added :IsThreatLibPeer(name), |
| 13:56.51 | CIA-22 | - only KLHTM threat broadcasts are ignored from senders using both KLHTM and Threat-1.0. |
| 13:56.56 | Lyf | Is it possible to make the standard action bars use shift, ctrl to change pages? Like Bartender does etc. And return to the original page on release. |
| 13:59.16 | BankZZ | Can the Threat stuff see and broadcast to KTM? |
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| 14:00.05 | trh | see, yes |
| 14:00.16 | trh | broadcast not yet, but theres ThreatToKTM or something |
| 14:00.39 | BankZZ | ok |
| 14:00.44 | BankZZ | ill wait for that |
| 14:01.00 | BankZZ | also need the Violation to intergrate with SWS |
| 14:01.16 | Adirelle | BankZZ: violation will NEVER integrate with SWS |
| 14:01.22 | BankZZ | :( |
| 14:01.38 | BankZZ | or atleast only show in combat info |
| 14:01.57 | BankZZ | I would love to use the ace stuff, but KTM and SWS is kinda the gold standard |
| 14:02.05 | BankZZ | so, I guess I am stuck |
| 14:02.26 | Adirelle | ckknight: PitBull-r40222\Layouts\ABF.lua:2119: attempt to index field 'shownTexts' (a nil value) |
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| 14:04.03 | BankZ | The only non ace mods I use right now is Outfitter, KTM, Clique and SWS |
| 14:05.35 | Daemona | outfitter -> closetgnome, ktm -> if you are no tank threat+omen, sws -> violation / assessment |
| 14:05.36 | Daemona | ;) |
| 14:05.46 | Adirelle | <- ItemRack, LoadIt, SmartBuff, OmnicCC |
| 14:06.07 | BankZ | I had a lot of problems with closetgnome |
| 14:06.30 | BankZ | omen is kinda worthless if KTM cant see you |
| 14:06.36 | Daemona | why? |
| 14:06.37 | Adirelle | ckknight: have you done change to pitbull that implies borking old config ? :p |
| 14:06.43 | Chompers | why:S |
| 14:06.43 | Daemona | if you arnt tank |
| 14:06.48 | Daemona | who has to care about YOUR threat? |
| 14:06.51 | BankZ | cuz thats the whole point |
| 14:06.59 | BankZ | everyone |
| 14:07.02 | Chompers | then make your tanks use Threat-1.0 |
| 14:07.13 | Adirelle | Daemona: that depends on your guild religion about that subject |
| 14:07.18 | BankZ | KTM is the standard |
| 14:07.30 | BankZ | no one is gonna switch cuz I want to use ace |
| 14:07.31 | BankZ | lol |
| 14:07.59 | BankZ | Violation is not good for healing |
| 14:08.06 | wobin_ | I hear the numbers between Threat and KTM are quite telling =P |
| 14:08.08 | Chompers | :S |
| 14:08.15 | BankZ | cuz it cant filter out outa combat stats |
| 14:08.24 | BankZ | (I hope that to be fixed) |
| 14:08.32 | ven | if I was the tank I would use, what I want to use... if others want to see me, they'd have to adapt -_-;; |
| 14:08.32 | BankZ | err, added not fixed |
| 14:08.32 | Adirelle | damn it, all my pitbull texts are gone :( |
| 14:08.44 | wobin_ | Adirelle: switch to the abf layout |
| 14:09.04 | Daemona | someone borked Omen -.- |
| 14:09.06 | Chompers | ven, you sound like a rogue |
| 14:09.07 | Kaydeethree | even in the abf layout, I still had to reposition the name/class texts for every single frame last night |
| 14:09.20 | Daemona | i got flipping bars from grow up/down, no proper sorting, blank bars etc |
| 14:09.42 | Adirelle | wobin_: oh, I see, text can now be positionned anywhere with ABF ? |
| 14:09.46 | ven | I'm mage, but I don't do much pve anyway, so I don't really use either of them ^^ |
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| 14:09.53 | wobin_ | Adirelle: I have no idea =) |
| 14:10.01 | Adirelle | wobin_: lol |
| 14:10.02 | wobin_ | It just fixed the disappearing text for me |
| 14:11.16 | Adirelle | wobin_: I was using Seerah layout for text placement, but it seems ABF allow to put texts anywhere I want, so I'll go with it |
| 14:11.21 | Adirelle | afk configuring pitbull again |
| 14:11.25 | wobin_ | cool |
| 14:12.14 | Adirelle | woohoo, "all units" config |
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| 14:20.55 | BankZ | so whos maintaining Violation now? |
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| 14:23.05 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: new skins seem to be breaking all the options in bars? |
| 14:23.36 | BankZ | ohhh, another non-ace mod is WIM which is great |
| 14:24.29 | Mikk | Cellular is the same thing |
| 14:25.32 | BankZ | last time I checked out Cellular it was not comparible |
| 14:25.37 | wobin_ | Bah, HeyFu is all you need =P |
| 14:25.44 | BankZ | but that was a while ago |
| 14:26.06 | wobin_ | don't need the fancy schmancy windows |
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| 14:29.25 | Tupsi3472 | in arkinventory, why is the "empty" categories labeled "empty"? i dont get the meaning/idea |
| 14:31.14 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40226 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 14:31.14 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 14:31.14 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-17-00-30 |
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| 14:36.31 | Adirelle | nooo... got disconnected will configuring pitbull :/ |
| 14:36.39 | Adirelle | gonna start over |
| 14:36.56 | Mikk | lots of /reload ftw |
| 14:38.12 | Adirelle | yep |
| 14:38.19 | Adirelle | in fact the realm's gone offline |
| 14:38.30 | Mikk | ah, you're golden |
| 14:38.37 | Mikk | disconnects still save stuff |
| 14:39.01 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r40227 10Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0/Layout-1.0.lua: |
| 14:39.01 | CIA-22 | Layout-1.0: |
| 14:39.01 | CIA-22 | -added layout:FitToFrameSize(bool) |
| 14:39.01 | CIA-22 | -added LayoutLib:HasLayout(name) |
| 14:39.01 | CIA-22 | -fixed some bugs |
| 14:39.03 | Adirelle | ckknight: I seen you added "all units", would it possible to enforce things like text config with this ? |
| 14:39.23 | Adirelle | ckknight: like say: "I would like all my health text looks like XXXX now !" |
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| 14:43.20 | Dustwhisper | hmm |
| 14:43.30 | Dustwhisper | just tested arkinventory, it seemed less "buggy" than baggins |
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| 14:43.59 | Dustwhisper | didnt screw up my keyring either |
| 14:44.45 | Mikk | How does baggins screw up keyrings? o.O |
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| 14:45.28 | Dustwhisper | it refuses to add new keys to keyrings |
| 14:45.33 | Dustwhisper | and refuses to expand the number of keyring slots |
| 14:45.42 | Dustwhisper | it's been static at 12 or 14 for 4 months >_< |
| 14:46.28 | Dustwhisper | hmm can you edit the placement of the slots in arkInventory? |
| 14:46.28 | Codayus | Hmm, I had some issues with keyrings and Ark, but none with Baggins. |
| 14:48.38 | Mikk | Well.. I've never used baggins for showing keyring tbh.. I'm happily using the builtin for the very few times that I do look at it |
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| 14:49.07 | Dustwhisper | cant seem to touch most of the options for bars in arkInventory |
| 14:49.09 | Dustwhisper | weird |
| 14:49.09 | Funkeh` | ckknight: still getting the problem in latest revision |
| 14:49.23 | Funkeh` | ckknight: half the modules are disabled yet they appear in the menu |
| 14:50.55 | Liquidor | Doesn't WoWAce have a bugtracker? |
| 14:52.07 | trh | http://wowace.com/trac |
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| 14:55.35 | Fin | [16:45:04] < Dustwhisper> it refuses to add new keys to keyrings |
| 14:55.35 | Fin | [16:45:10] < Dustwhisper> and refuses to expand the number of keyring slots |
| 14:55.55 | Fin | Bagnon does that, but as soon as you put more keys in it creates more slots if it can |
| 14:56.07 | Fin | I don't know if it's intentional, but it's a neat way of saving space |
| 14:56.53 | Fin | I remember worrying because my keyring didn't seem to grow as I levelled up, but it was just not bothering to create the extra slots because I had nothing to put in them |
| 14:57.27 | Mikk | Standard blizz keyring works the same |
| 14:58.02 | Mikk | On another note, am I just missing something real obvious, or is there simply not a way of getting TSVN to _NOT_ pull externals when I'm updating? |
| 14:58.19 | Dustwhisper | add it it to the block filter |
| 14:59.11 | kenlyric | yeah, they dynamic keyring has been there for a while |
| 14:59.23 | kenlyric | you can even manually make it grow by placing a key in the last 2 or 3 slots. |
| 14:59.43 | kenlyric | last 2 |
| 14:59.45 | Dustwhisper | anyways for arkInventory, can it only expands sections on one axis? |
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| 15:01.08 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40228 10VanasKoS/ (15 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: some minor performance changes, PIE (charts) for everyone!, first work on the last seen list |
| 15:05.29 | Mikk | SIGH how the hell did TagCompiler end up in SAL? |
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| 15:05.59 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 15:06.00 | nevcairiel | i wonder |
| 15:06.01 | Fin | I thought it was Baggins that was "buggy"? |
| 15:06.19 | nevcairiel | is threat+omen ready enough to replace ktm in our raid now ? :) |
| 15:06.33 | Fin | one way to find out |
| 15:06.52 | Dustwhisper | is for me fin, just cba with arkInventory only expanding on one axis like that, just sticking with teabagging =D |
| 15:07.15 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40229 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: |
| 15:07.15 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:07.15 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Race |
| 15:07.47 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40230 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/ (Cartographer_Mailboxes.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Mailboxes: updated zhTW localization |
| 15:07.52 | Fin | you said that the keyring was buggy though - but did you just think it was because you weren't filling up your keyring? |
| 15:08.07 | Dustwhisper | nope |
| 15:08.12 | Dustwhisper | i cant so |
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| 15:12.56 | winkiller | oh, nice prat "bug" - it knew about the 62 Druid "Onehorn" from my server and when the 70 hunter "Onehorn" joined my bg raid groud it displayed the Druid |
| 15:13.24 | winkiller | wonder if blizz gives server info on raid join though |
| 15:13.30 | Thrae | Hehe, Monty Pythons Flying Cirus Complete torrent comes with English subtitles "for American viewers" :D |
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| 15:13.41 | trh | winkiller: on UnitName(unitid) you get the server |
| 15:13.51 | Mikk | and the raid join event has no info |
| 15:14.02 | Mikk | you have to explicitly go dig in the raid roster to find out what happened |
| 15:14.12 | Mikk | unless i'm really foggy today |
| 15:14.21 | winkiller | yeah, what I thought |
| 15:14.44 | Mikk | prat's name cache needs a total rework tho |
| 15:14.51 | Mikk | it uses like 3 times the memory it needs to use |
| 15:15.03 | Fin | PlayerNames is a bit of a hog |
| 15:15.05 | Mikk | working in realm names at that point would seem sensible |
| 15:15.09 | Mikk | yeah |
| 15:15.20 | Fin | it hasn't changed much since it was written, and it was one of the first modules I think |
| 15:15.31 | Mikk | just reworking it into ["Name"] = "Class;Level;morestuff" would be a huge win |
| 15:15.49 | Fin | feel free to rework it |
| 15:15.55 | Fin | :) |
| 15:16.03 | Mikk | meh, i have too many projects already |
| 15:16.23 | Mikk | and i also IRC too much to code efficiently :P |
| 15:18.57 | Funkeh` | ulic: im confused what you are trying to accomplish with the BM module |
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| 15:24.20 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40231 10LittleWigs/ (CoT/BlackMorass.lua LittleWigs.toc): LittleWigs: make this bmportals stuff load for testing purposes, remove broken zhtw stuff |
| 15:24.23 | CIA-22 | 03skyboat * r40232 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc): |
| 15:24.23 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 15:24.23 | CIA-22 | - Add Babble-Race to externals and TOC part deux, since the branch merge removed it. |
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| 15:28.30 | Leialyn | Is there an addon that removes the drunken messages ? |
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| 15:32.32 | Mikk | probably |
| 15:34.11 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40233 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: updated zhTW localization |
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| 15:35.56 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40234 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: updated zhTW localization |
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| 15:36.10 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40235 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mailboxes: updated zhTW localization |
| 15:36.41 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40236 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Mining.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Mining - updated zhTW localization |
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| 15:52.55 | Higdur | any easy way to center things on the screen? |
| 15:52.58 | Higdur | UI elements |
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| 15:53.11 | boobies4u | hey |
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| 15:53.34 | boobies4u | guys, whenever i get "charmed" in instances and a few other times i keep getting some error about Blizzard_raidUI |
| 15:53.36 | Ominous | afternoon |
| 15:53.38 | Aquaricat | Good afternoon. |
| 15:53.40 | boobies4u | anyone know what this is about? |
| 15:53.56 | boobies4u | its trying to call come function named "getn" or something |
| 15:54.16 | Mikk | generally speaking, installing buggrabber + bugsack so you can copy&paste detailed errors is a good idea |
| 15:54.16 | boobies4u | Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_RaidUI\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:59: bad argument #1 to 'getn' (table expected, got nil) |
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| 15:56.18 | Wixi | yeh i've noticed the charms have been buggy |
| 15:56.43 | Wixi | not getting set right and disappear, then unable to remark it |
| 15:57.24 | boobies4u | i also seem to get it when my pet gets killed |
| 15:57.30 | durcyn | they stop rendering.. you can re-mark if you set it to something else, then back. |
| 15:57.31 | boobies4u | if i forexample charm a demon and it dies |
| 15:57.45 | Higdur | anyone know an easy way of cetering a frame on the screen? |
| 15:58.02 | Higdur | horizontaly |
| 15:58.03 | trh | Higdur: :SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent)? |
| 15:58.19 | Higdur | ok, thanks |
| 15:58.54 | boobies4u | charm/enslave |
| 15:58.58 | Higdur | know what bartender calls it's frames too? |
| 15:59.08 | Higdur | used to be Bar1 etc ages ago |
| 15:59.15 | Higdur | but not anymore |
| 15:59.20 | trh | no idea |
| 15:59.47 | dodgizzla | BT3BarX iirc |
| 16:00.18 | Fin | yeah |
| 16:00.23 | dodgizzla | try /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() while your mouse is over the frame |
| 16:00.24 | Higdur | thanks |
| 16:00.30 | Higdur | ok |
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| 16:01.41 | Ominous | Fin: |
| 16:02.45 | boobies4u | i also get the error when somone dies in my party |
| 16:02.47 | boobies4u | Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_RaidUI\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:59: bad argument #1 to 'getn' (table expected, got nil) |
| 16:02.48 | boobies4u | this one |
| 16:02.52 | boobies4u | i wonder what the hell is causing it |
| 16:03.02 | [dRaCo] | prolly you raidframes |
| 16:03.07 | [dRaCo] | get buggrabber and bugsack |
| 16:03.10 | boobies4u | is that CT raid? |
| 16:03.40 | boobies4u | if its raidframe, is it then ct raid or aguf |
| 16:03.57 | [dRaCo] | get buggrabber and bugsack, reproduce the bug and post the backtrace |
| 16:04.08 | [dRaCo] | then somebody might be able to help you. |
| 16:07.27 | boobies4u | god damn hardcore geek stuff |
| 16:08.00 | Thorgard^2 | Installing two mods and copy/pasting some text? ;P |
| 16:08.12 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40237 10Violation/ (Other/Banzai.lua Violation.lua): Violation: koKR Update |
| 16:08.23 | Fin | Popadominous! |
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| 16:08.29 | Ominous | Fin! |
| 16:08.32 | Fin | aloha |
| 16:08.33 | trh | boobies4u: i bet they'd be more helpful if you can give them what you promised in your nickname ;) |
| 16:08.35 | Ominous | new name for me then? |
| 16:09.07 | Fin | I'll try it out on TS |
| 16:09.21 | Kaelten | phyber: it means I'm staff |
| 16:09.37 | Fin | delayed replies ftw |
| 16:09.37 | Ominous | Fin: cant yet |
| 16:09.45 | Ominous | Fin: got more labour to do =P |
| 16:09.50 | Fin | Ominous: I can wait! :) and, OK |
| 16:10.02 | Ominous | Fin: ill be on TS at about 745 uk time |
| 16:10.08 | Fin | I have pizza to make anyway |
| 16:10.25 | Ominous | :) |
| 16:10.26 | Fin | kk, about 20:45 my time - are you raiding then? |
| 16:10.31 | Dustwhisper | any addons that will autoscan AH for a list of items you are looking for? |
| 16:10.37 | Dustwhisper | everytime you go to AH |
| 16:10.52 | Ominous | Fin: 8pm actually |
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| 16:10.56 | Fin | aha |
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| 16:13.39 | Wixi | Are there any addons that show an action bar only when you press a key? |
| 16:14.12 | Fin | yes |
| 16:14.14 | Fin | Geist |
| 16:14.23 | Wixi | ok thanks |
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| 16:20.39 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40238 10AddonLoader/: |
| 16:20.39 | CIA-22 | Rename + polish of ForkliftGnome in an attempt to make it more visible to the public at large (including devs) |
| 16:20.40 | CIA-22 | Does automatic on-demand loading of addons that support it according to toc metadata fields. |
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| 16:21.31 | nevcairiel | AddonLoader is a too generic name, if you ask me.. |
| 16:21.35 | nevcairiel | but you dont, so its ok :D |
| 16:22.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40239 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: Just a small cosmetic change to the group threat version preset |
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| 16:23.36 | Fin | I think it's better than ForkliftGnome, personally :) |
| 16:24.18 | Fin | I would've assumed that ForkliftGnome had something to do with ClosetGnome :) |
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| 16:24.44 | Mikk | Q.E.D. |
| 16:25.05 | Fin | but hey |
| 16:25.20 | Fin | maybe you should've called it ACEAddonLoader! |
| 16:25.29 | Fin | :P |
| 16:25.36 | Mikk | they wouldn't let me :< |
| 16:25.39 | Fin | aww |
| 16:25.47 | Fin | I was joking though :) |
| 16:25.51 | Mikk | I was comtemplating LoaderAce there for a bit |
| 16:25.58 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40240 10LittleWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: fixup LoD stuff, bm module seems to work |
| 16:26.04 | Mikk | But then again, it's not just for Ace stuff... it'll load anything just fine |
| 16:26.11 | durcyn | Mikk: DeuceDropper, imo. |
| 16:26.12 | Kaelten | ya we're picky about people using Ace in addon names |
| 16:26.15 | Fin | all the phpMyWhatevers, there's too many in the world |
| 16:26.40 | Mikk | Fin: javaWhatever and jWhatever |
| 16:27.04 | Fin | yeah! |
| 16:27.27 | kebinusan | O is East on a compass no? |
| 16:27.47 | Mikk | depends what language you speak |
| 16:28.06 | [dRaCo] | O prolly stands for Osten, which is German for East, so yes. |
| 16:28.16 | Kaelten | Fisker.... I'll kill him |
| 16:28.22 | Fin | ooh, can I watch? |
| 16:28.33 | Kaelten | wtf is he posting bullshit comments |
| 16:28.41 | [Ammo] | because he's a retard troll |
| 16:28.44 | [Ammo] | always has been |
| 16:28.49 | Mikk | we tried getting him to delete it |
| 16:28.50 | Mikk | he refused |
| 16:28.51 | Kaydeethree | more stupid crap on the KTM page? |
| 16:29.00 | Kaelten | if I had been awake I would have deleted it. |
| 16:29.07 | Kaelten | at least its been rated down. |
| 16:29.16 | Kaelten | can you guys see it after its been rated down? |
| 16:29.17 | Mikk | yeah we prodded people here to thumbsdown it |
| 16:29.21 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 16:29.32 | [Ammo] | well can only see it if I click show comment |
| 16:29.36 | ven | you can make it show, but it's hidden by default |
| 16:29.36 | Mikk | Yeah we can see that there's something there that's been rated down and click to expand if we want |
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| 16:29.51 | Dotted | [Ammo] ping |
| 16:30.05 | [Ammo] | pong |
| 16:30.08 | Dotted | got my pm? |
| 16:30.10 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40241 10AddonLoader/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:30.11 | CIA-22 | AddonLoader: Initial commit |
| 16:30.11 | CIA-22 | - Basically the same as ForkliftGnome |
| 16:30.11 | CIA-22 | - Junk the quips |
| 16:30.11 | CIA-22 | - If ForkliftGnome is in the system, it gets silently "disabled" (runtime), as AddonLoader does the same job. |
| 16:30.20 | [Ammo] | yeah and I don't care |
| 16:30.25 | Dotted | kk |
| 16:30.55 | [Ammo] | I only committed up oRA2 on curse because cladhaire asked me a few months ago |
| 16:30.57 | [Ammo] | never updated it |
| 16:31.07 | [Ammo] | assumed it would die off automatically |
| 16:31.42 | CIA-22 | 03mcc * r40242 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/ (4 files): |
| 16:31.42 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_QuestObjectives: |
| 16:31.42 | CIA-22 | - add Traditional Chinese translation |
| 16:31.42 | CIA-22 | and range decetection in different translation(By purple) |
| 16:31.58 | Dotted | fair enough |
| 16:32.21 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: I just needed you to update it somewhere =) |
| 16:32.25 | cladhaire | it wasn't on any of the mod sites =( |
| 16:32.35 | Mikk | in other news, Fisker is actually online. he's just not in #wowace |
| 16:32.42 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: it's on files.wowace.com |
| 16:32.45 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 16:32.51 | cladhaire | that is not a mod site |
| 16:32.59 | Dotted | key to succes is mod sites :/ |
| 16:33.02 | [Ammo] | I'll just remove it from all |
| 16:33.11 | [Ammo] | since i have 0 intention to update it |
| 16:33.11 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: I think thats a bad decision, but *shrug* |
| 16:33.14 | [Ammo] | people know where to get it |
| 16:33.18 | Mikk | half my guild would disagree with that, clad. they won't use anything if it's not accessible via WAU |
| 16:33.20 | [Ammo] | I haven't updated it in months |
| 16:33.26 | cladhaire | Mikk: that's fine. |
| 16:33.30 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40243 10Cartographer_Cleanup/Cleanup.lua: Cartographer_Cleanup: updated zhTW localization |
| 16:33.31 | cladhaire | but not having stable tagged releases is bad |
| 16:33.36 | Dotted | Mikk your guild != the world ;) |
| 16:33.38 | Mikk | true that |
| 16:33.39 | cladhaire | too much shit can break in an instant on file.wowace.com |
| 16:33.40 | [Ammo] | oRA2 hasn't changed in months either |
| 16:33.44 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 16:33.50 | Mikk | Dotted: no, but a represenative cross section imo |
| 16:33.51 | cladhaire | i will NOT point novice users at a site that has that caveat |
| 16:33.53 | cladhaire | its bad business |
| 16:33.59 | Dotted | [Ammo] could update it for you if you want |
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| 16:34.30 | Mikk | Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind being able to tag a particular release on files.wowace as "stable" |
| 16:34.55 | Dotted | its the only thing WAU lacks |
| 16:35.05 | Dotted | being able to only download stables |
| 16:35.20 | Kaelten | Mikk: we're going to have support for that in wau2 |
| 16:35.25 | trh | i think thats something users could do... tag the release they have as stable |
| 16:35.26 | [Ammo] | updating stuff on addon sites is a pain in the ass, and having to deal with users complaining there is even worse |
| 16:35.26 | Mikk | whewt |
| 16:35.27 | cladhaire | and the fact that it only works with ace mods |
| 16:35.29 | Kaelten | eventually moving to a tags system |
| 16:35.44 | cladhaire | that's a large failing imo |
| 16:35.48 | trh | if it is it gets saved and can be downloaded if the new revision isn't as stable as they hoped |
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| 16:36.26 | hypetech | is there any way yet to run a private server with 2.1? |
| 16:36.42 | Dotted | hypetech die plz |
| 16:36.44 | [Ammo] | go somewhere else for that hypetech |
| 16:36.51 | trh | Kaelten: it'd be super awesome to get a dropdown field with the categories ace2 mods are sorted in to filter them by category plus a search box for name and description with highlighting of found words :) |
| 16:36.53 | hypetech | :( |
| 16:37.03 | hypetech | I didn't realize it was off topic |
| 16:37.04 | hypetech | sorry |
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| 16:37.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:37.15 | cladhaire | its in violation of the ToS and EuLA |
| 16:37.17 | cladhaire | this isnt'a warez channel |
| 16:37.17 | hypetech | ooo |
| 16:37.18 | Kaydeethree | it's against TOS. you think we're going to point you to it here? |
| 16:37.18 | Mikk | it's not that it's off topic. it's against TOS. |
| 16:37.18 | trh | Kaelten: it'd be super awesome to get a dropdown field with the categories ace2 mods are sorted in to filter them by category plus a search box for name and description with highlighting of found words :) |
| 16:37.23 | Kaelten | bah |
| 16:37.41 | hypetech | I didn't think it was against TOS |
| 16:37.42 | hypetech | sorry |
| 16:37.45 | Mikk | trh: there's a search function already |
| 16:38.01 | trh | but not directly on files.wowace.com :) |
| 16:38.11 | Kaelten | thats also on my todo |
| 16:38.15 | Mikk | ctrl+f tbh |
| 16:38.17 | Firik | ckknight: I just updated my pitbull, and while profiling my own addon I noticed pitbull_combaticon using a lot of cpu time for just a combat icon, your aware of this right? |
| 16:38.19 | Mikk | and get a better browser :P |
| 16:38.47 | trh | Mikk: ya.. but the browser search doesnt highlight all matches and can't filter out mods that have a match at all |
| 16:38.55 | trh | +don't hvae |
| 16:39.03 | Mikk | my browser search does? =) |
| 16:39.10 | Mikk | not filter out |
| 16:39.11 | Mikk | but highlight |
| 16:39.13 | hypetech | anywho. I noticed last night during doomwalker that if you Alt+Z during a fight, sometimes when you come back in, the text will be gone from the unitframes in pitbull |
| 16:39.20 | trh | Mikk: mine only the current found entry |
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| 16:40.27 | Kaelten | thats better |
| 16:40.49 | Mikk | lart applied to fisker? |
| 16:41.21 | Kaelten | row delete but ya |
| 16:42.11 | Higdur | is there any way to run a macro from the macro window? |
| 16:42.20 | Higdur | without having to drag it to a bar |
| 16:42.37 | Mikk | no |
| 16:42.47 | Higdur | that's just plain stupid |
| 16:42.48 | trh | nope |
| 16:42.48 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40244 10Aloft/ (. embeds.xml): Aloft: Added Babble-Race-2.2 to the embeds/libraries used |
| 16:42.51 | trh | Higdur: yep |
| 16:42.53 | Kaydeethree | bah... what's the command. RunMacro()? |
| 16:42.59 | Higdur | any slash command? |
| 16:43.46 | Mikk | RunMacro won't work, it's protected |
| 16:44.06 | Iceroth | hmh, anyone else been having trouble with wow crashing to memory access violation? been like this for the past few days and only in battlegrounds |
| 16:44.27 | Higdur | I had a memory violation crash an hour ago |
| 16:44.37 | Kaydeethree | meh. I've only been crashing out due to changing the system volume too quickly. but I can blame wine's alsa plugin for that |
| 16:44.37 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40245 10Assessment/ (. embeds.xml): Assessment: Added Babble-Race-2.2 |
| 16:44.44 | Higdur | not related though |
| 16:44.48 | Kaydeethree | newp |
| 16:45.06 | Higdur | I crashed when I typed /macro... |
| 16:45.12 | Kaelten | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/details/25224/wau2-alpha-screenshot/ |
| 16:45.21 | Higdur | after modding Pitbulls settings if that has anything to do with it |
| 16:45.26 | Fin | ~/o I've got a brand new combine harvester o/~ |
| 16:45.42 | Kaydeethree | hey kael, is wau2 using .net? |
| 16:45.52 | nevcairiel | its java |
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| 16:46.12 | durcyn | do i see advertisements in there |
| 16:46.13 | Kaydeethree | hrm. wonder if I can get java to work properly inside of wine |
| 16:46.18 | Iceroth | looking at the memory dump, only intelligeble part i recognize there is "DBG:AceEvent20Frame" |
| 16:46.18 | trh | Kaelten: looks nice, but with the ad i don't think too many people will use it |
| 16:46.29 | nevcairiel | Kaydeethree: its java, you can run it in native linux :P |
| 16:46.42 | Kaelten | trh: thats there prerogative, but i'll kill 1.8 if I have to. |
| 16:46.55 | Kaelten | I had a 1k server bill last month |
| 16:47.04 | nevcairiel | ouch. |
| 16:47.05 | Kaelten | mostly due to updater traffic |
| 16:47.08 | trh | ouch |
| 16:47.08 | Mikk | O.O |
| 16:47.25 | Kaelten | the ad in WAU is a nessisity and if people get their feeling hurt, I'm sorry, but tough |
| 16:47.39 | Dustwhisper | can you force-hide another mods frame? |
| 16:47.51 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: certainly... SomeFrameName:Hide() |
| 16:47.57 | Kaydeethree | if it's non-local, FrameNaame:Hide() |
| 16:47.58 | Thrae | Kaelten: I thought there were different servers on rotation? |
| 16:47.58 | trh | Kaelten: my guess is that someone will decompile/change it, remove the ad and rerelease it |
| 16:48.07 | kebinusan | Possibly add a paypal button if people want to donate that way in addition to ad revenue |
| 16:48.11 | Higdur | any way to skip jumping to the raid part of Pitbull's config mode? |
| 16:48.15 | trh | Kaelten: you know how users are... :( |
| 16:48.25 | Kaelten | our plan includes 10mbit/s @ 95th we used 35mbits @ 95th |
| 16:48.26 | cladhaire | wel then the entire service gets shut down |
| 16:48.27 | Higdur | it lags like hell and I won't use pitbull for raidframes |
| 16:48.35 | kebinusan | Kaelten: ouch |
| 16:48.41 | Fin | Kaelten: hope there'll be a way of donating to avoid the ad |
| 16:48.43 | cladhaire | trh: People that do that would screw it for everyone |
| 16:48.44 | Kaelten | kebinusan: yep |
| 16:48.50 | cladhaire | this magical "free" community isn't so "Free" |
| 16:48.54 | Kaelten | Fin: also on the plan |
| 16:48.54 | Dustwhisper | nice |
| 16:48.54 | durcyn | there a tip jar set up? |
| 16:48.56 | Kaydeethree | hig, in the main popup menu, click on raid and choose disable |
| 16:48.59 | Dustwhisper | so i can grab framenames and forcehide them |
| 16:48.59 | Dustwhisper | pro |
| 16:49.00 | trh | cladhaire: i know.. but they don't care... seen it so often |
| 16:49.02 | Fin | good good |
| 16:49.12 | cladhaire | trh: *shrug* |
| 16:49.14 | Thrae | You could just move to Google SVNs. Google now owns like 30% of the Internet anyway, and they're giving it away for free! |
| 16:49.21 | Kaelten | trh: to be honest, if its the minority I could not care less. |
| 16:49.24 | Kaelten | Thrae: no |
| 16:49.28 | Mikk | Google SVN isn't large enough by far |
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| 16:49.32 | nevcairiel | is there a way to protect jars from being decompiled now? |
| 16:49.41 | Daemona | updater is showing an ad in the latest version? then my version is broken? ;) |
| 16:49.45 | Kaelten | and I'd loose the control I'll need for most of the future plans |
| 16:49.45 | wobin_ | seal them with lead |
| 16:49.49 | trh | nevcairiel: nope.. it's technically impossible |
| 16:49.50 | Mikk | nevcairiel: that's impossible |
| 16:49.54 | wobin_ | and place the seal of solomon on the top |
| 16:49.55 | Thrae | Google SVN would work, just seperate the projects... |
| 16:49.56 | trh | nevcairiel: you can only obfuscate it to hell |
| 16:49.57 | nevcairiel | sucks |
| 16:50.08 | Mikk | nevcairiel: problem is, the browsers need to be able to read em :> |
| 16:50.11 | wobin_ | Thrae: sounds like a management nightmare =) |
| 16:50.21 | cladhaire | Thrae: not so much |
| 16:50.25 | cladhaire | that idea would not work |
| 16:50.26 | trh | using a signed c# executable would work |
| 16:50.28 | kebinusan | eh SVN and WAU are conveniences, If ads help support it then bring on the ads |
| 16:50.32 | Kaelten | Thrae: and again I'd loose the control I need for future plans. |
| 16:50.53 | Mikk | trh: those can equally be decompiled |
| 16:50.54 | Kaelten | trh: lack of developers and no cross platform support |
| 16:51.06 | Thrae | Kaelten: What control would you need? |
| 16:51.10 | trh | Mikk: yep, but recompiling them is alot harder |
| 16:51.10 | Kaelten | anything can be decompiled with enough time and intrest |
| 16:51.11 | nevcairiel | i couldve helped more with c# then with java now =D |
| 16:51.19 | nevcairiel | i generally look oever the code once in a whie |
| 16:51.19 | trh | Mikk: compared to jad/javac |
| 16:51.22 | Kaelten | thrae shell access to their servers with unlimited permissions and control. |
| 16:52.02 | Mikk | hehe.. move the release platform to sourceforge :S |
| 16:52.03 | Thrae | Well, you don't have to have the SVN on the same server as everything else. SVN was made to be remotely administrated anyway. |
| 16:52.24 | cladhaire | Thrae: you're grossly over-simplifying the problem |
| 16:52.29 | Thrae | There are tons of hosting sites for coding projects -- sourceforge.net, freshmeat.net, google, etc. |
| 16:52.30 | cladhaire | trust me, its not as easy as you're making it out to be |
| 16:52.42 | Mikk | besides, svn isn't the problem |
| 16:52.43 | cladhaire | and not a single one makes what is posisble now, possible |
| 16:52.49 | Mikk | it's WAU bandwidth |
| 16:52.57 | Kaelten | and really its not a problem |
| 16:53.09 | Kaelten | the problem is there is no way to return the invest ment that I'm making |
| 16:53.11 | Kaelten | thats all I want. |
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| 16:53.13 | kebinusan | Is there anything you can add to WAU to stop compulsive updating |
| 16:53.25 | Kaelten | I'm happy to continue to grow the services and host them |
| 16:53.26 | kebinusan | that'd probably help your bandwidth some |
| 16:53.27 | Punkie` | i think a lot of the problems is embedded zips vs disembedded zips |
| 16:53.34 | Punkie` | using embedded you need to download loads of updates |
| 16:53.36 | Dustwhisper | disassembling/decompiling is just timedemanding, not rocketscience |
| 16:53.53 | nevcairiel | there are simple tools todo that for java.. |
| 16:53.55 | Kaelten | I just can't be expected to put out a bunch of money every month to do it. |
| 16:53.55 | Mikk | Punkie`: Possibly. I'm thinking lots of people are stuck with embedded still. |
| 16:53.58 | nevcairiel | that never was any science at all :D |
| 16:54.11 | Kaelten | wau2 will put people in no-ext by default |
| 16:54.18 | Kaelten | you'll have to manually go embeded |
| 16:54.19 | Mikk | Getting a new WAU out that defaults to disembedded would cut down on bw a lot |
| 16:54.20 | Punkie` | Mikk: I would say its way more in the majority |
| 16:54.27 | Mikk | indeed |
| 16:54.30 | Kaelten | Mikk: :P |
| 16:54.33 | trh | Dustwhisper: no one said it's hard.. but with c# and the intermediate assembler + signing it's not too easy to make a working executable out of the disassembled code |
| 16:54.55 | trh | Dustwhisper: at least if you want to change sth. in it :) |
| 16:55.02 | Kaelten | we should code it in ASM to confused the majority of people when they see the source. |
| 16:55.10 | Kaydeethree | haha |
| 16:55.11 | nevcairiel | good luck with finding coders |
| 16:55.11 | wobin_ | omg jmp wht? |
| 16:55.12 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:55.18 | Kalman| | Kaelten: Speaking for myself, I object to ads only when they're obtrusive, annoying, and unnecessary. If they're done well (I haven't seen WAU2, but I got faith in you!), I like being able to help support you running the Ace site. |
| 16:55.19 | trh | Kaelten: actually it'd be best readable if coded in asm in a disassembler ;) |
| 16:55.34 | wobin_ | Kalman|: have a look at the screenshot above |
| 16:55.42 | Kaelten | Kalman|: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/details/25224/wau2-alpha-screenshot/ |
| 16:55.52 | Mikk | it sits at the bottom of the updater window.. can't be less obtrusive than that and still visible |
| 16:55.53 | trh | Kalman|: i'd add "spying the user" then i'm good with it =) |
| 16:55.55 | Kalman| | Ah, that's fine. |
| 16:56.27 | Mikk | animating flash thingies that bounce around on the window that i need to chase around in order to clsoe them.. now THAT's me leaving a site and never coming back :P |
| 16:56.29 | Kaelten | What I've got to decide is wether I need to keep the code closed in order to protect the ads. I was planning on opening it up, but I can't have 80% of the people removing the ad support based on a todo on some jerks website |
| 16:56.36 | nevcairiel | a vista screenshot :fear: |
| 16:56.56 | Thrae | Kaelten: Hmm, what about promoting proper tag usage? A lot of people use your server as a release platform, or keep their addons in beta for a very long time as they continually add features. Not everyone may want to get the very latest update, if it's possibly unstable. |
| 16:57.02 | Kaelten | Mikk: its going to use the same ads that are on the site and those will change |
| 16:57.17 | wobin_ | Kaelten: I think you'll have to leave it open |
| 16:57.27 | Kaelten | thrae: also in the works, going with a two step approach. |
| 16:57.46 | Mikk | that's gonna cut down bandwidth by gobs too |
| 16:57.47 | wobin_ | People are too leery of keyloggers nowadys |
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| 16:58.12 | Kaelten | Wau2 will support a .wau file that will be for metadata |
| 16:58.13 | Mikk | buh? i don't know of anyone that's been worried about keyloggers in wau |
| 16:58.15 | Kalman| | wobin_: I don't know. I think the Ace community has built up enough reputation that wouldn't be an issue. |
| 16:58.16 | trh | wobin_: i think they'd trust a application from kaelten |
| 16:58.16 | Kaydeethree | for good reason after the debacle that was neth and drokthul earlier in the week |
| 16:58.26 | wobin_ | Possibly |
| 16:58.36 | wobin_ | But then again, who is this Kaelten person? =) |
| 16:58.49 | Mikk | haha |
| 16:58.50 | Kaelten | .wau files will replace filelist.wau and be able to flag a file as unstable or not as well. |
| 16:58.55 | Mikk | name it KC_WoWUpdater and it'll be trusted just fine ;) |
| 16:58.57 | wobin_ | For those who aren't knowledablge about the ace community? |
| 16:59.01 | Dustwhisper | (18:54:36) (trh) Dustwhisper: no one said it's hard.. but with c# and the intermediate assembler + signing it's not too easy to make a working executable out of the disassembled code |
| 16:59.01 | Dustwhisper | (18:54:58) (trh) Dustwhisper: at least if you want to change sth. in it :) |
| 16:59.02 | Fin | Kaelten: would be nice if you could keep the metadata stuff open - like make it a .addon file or something that's designed to be useful for other purposes |
| 16:59.03 | trh | wobin_: the guy who pays for files.wowace.com.. should be enough as a description ;) |
| 16:59.11 | Dustwhisper | you only do it to take portions though |
| 16:59.17 | Kaelten | wobin_: I'm also a big member of the curse community |
| 16:59.17 | Dustwhisper | resources can mostly be changed easily anyways |
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| 16:59.25 | Dustwhisper | extending by hooking aswell |
| 16:59.41 | wobin_ | Kaelten: Again, but what about someone who's just starting into the addon thing? |
| 16:59.53 | Mikk | They don't need to use it |
| 16:59.54 | wobin_ | You're the same as the next bloke |
| 17:00.00 | Mikk | And they probably haven't heard of keyloggers either if they're that new |
| 17:00.05 | Kaelten | I'm staff at curse and I own wowace |
| 17:00.18 | Kaelten | thats about all I Can tell them |
| 17:00.27 | Iceroth | wobin_, how would the open source code help the noobs? is he going to download the source and complile it himself after reading through it or what? |
| 17:00.29 | Kaelten | plus the 200k other people that use it |
| 17:00.31 | wobin_ | The thing is, I know a lot of people who use a lot of addons who wouldn't know you from adam |
| 17:00.48 | wobin_ | Well, these people may be knowledgable in coding |
| 17:00.53 | Thrae | I certainly wouldn't mind ads if Curse, Worldofwar, and WoWI opened up their APIs to allow easy updating. |
| 17:01.20 | Mikk | yeah but still... what 99% of users will do is just ask their friends "is wowaceupdater safe" .. and the friend will go "dunno.. but everyone uses it" |
| 17:01.21 | Kaelten | Thrae: heh, I know some things in the works that I can't disclose at this point. |
| 17:01.22 | wobin_ | I think chances are people don't mind the ads |
| 17:01.35 | Kaydeethree | meh. not like I see ads any more anways |
| 17:01.46 | Thrae | Kaelten: Yeah, I remember the non-disclosed stuff from a looong time ago ;) |
| 17:02.01 | wobin_ | and if they go to the effort of recompiling to remove them, and post the result, chances are good that someone from the community will see it and tell them off for it |
| 17:02.02 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:02.05 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40246 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua: |
| 17:02.05 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 17:02.05 | CIA-22 | - properly track input values from different senders (D'oh!), |
| 17:02.05 | CIA-22 | - actively probe for KTM users on Threat activation and party changes by sending "versionqueries", |
| 17:02.05 | CIA-22 | - ony enable when player is in party, Threat is active and there is at least a pure KTM-user in the party, |
| 17:02.06 | CIA-22 | - pretend to be KTM 19.18 to KTM users, |
| 17:02.10 | CIA-22 | - one can use /run ThreatToKTM:SetDebugging(true) to see debug output. |
| 17:02.13 | trh | Kaelten: a nice thing would be to open the "core" api which'd ideally have a function like getadimage and hope that other develoeprs who want to write updaters would use it |
| 17:02.20 | trh | Kaelten: best with a good explanation why |
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| 17:02.45 | wobin_ | Yeah, it's not an unreasonable request |
| 17:02.53 | Mikk | huh? |
| 17:02.54 | wobin_ | Have it in the 'About' or something |
| 17:03.01 | Kaelten | ya the project is designed with seperate back end and front end |
| 17:03.08 | wobin_ | "Sorry about the ads, but we need to keep the site up and running" etc |
| 17:03.08 | Kaelten | I could open the back end I suppose |
| 17:03.25 | [R]Ispide | anyone here can help me a second with gladiator addon ? was working perfect till when i changed the spells bound to right / left click ... now even if i choose spell... it always uses "target" function |
| 17:03.29 | trh | Kaelten: ya.. so open the back end.. give good documentation with the why a ad is needed and hope that developers will follow it |
| 17:03.39 | cladhaire | trh: thats a nightmare |
| 17:03.43 | cladhaire | and i dont see why its necessary |
| 17:04.03 | Kaelten | ya, bottom line, and this is no offense to anyone here, someone who goes out of their way to run adblocker or remove ads from the updater doesn't give a shit about the service that I'm trying to give. |
| 17:04.19 | Punkie` | If you ask me, having zips over a homebrewed SVN program that looks like WAU is a waste of bandwidth |
| 17:04.38 | Mikk | erm |
| 17:04.39 | cladhaire | Punkie`: huh? |
| 17:04.39 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40247 10DrDamage/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:04.39 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:04.39 | CIA-22 | - Stops parsing of files for unsupported classes instead of disabling addon |
| 17:04.41 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 17:04.46 | Punkie` | because if one bigwigs module gets tweaked, or one omen module gets tweaked, you need to download the whole addon |
| 17:04.47 | cladhaire | what the hell are people talking about today. |
| 17:04.49 | Punkie` | rather than just one file |
| 17:04.54 | Mikk | haha |
| 17:05.00 | wobin_ | hippos are full of happy |
| 17:05.00 | Mikk | you realize we used SVN earlier, right? |
| 17:05.03 | Punkie` | and that happens a lot :p |
| 17:05.06 | Punkie` | i use SVN still |
| 17:05.06 | Mikk | it was killing us |
| 17:05.07 | cladhaire | SVN can't be used. |
| 17:05.13 | Kaelten | and svn is still available for limited use |
| 17:05.15 | cladhaire | so just give that one up |
| 17:05.25 | Punkie` | I didn't know :) |
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| 17:05.35 | Mikk | The problem with the zips today is too many people running embedded |
| 17:05.37 | Punkie` | what happened, did it just crash and burn? |
| 17:05.43 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:05.43 | Mikk | Take that out of the equation and the problem is solved tbh |
| 17:05.43 | wobin_ | overloaded |
| 17:05.50 | Punkie` | hehe, fair enough |
| 17:05.54 | durcyn | too many externals, too much cpu |
| 17:05.54 | Punkie` | and yeah Mikk :) |
| 17:05.55 | cladhaire | Mikk: not entirely, no |
| 17:05.59 | durcyn | hell, it's a high load even without externals |
| 17:05.59 | Kaelten | dreamhost started doing cpu throttling because of us |
| 17:06.09 | Mikk | cladhaire: well no, but it cuts down on zip size by a factor of 10+ |
| 17:06.11 | |Kev| | what's the problem? are you getting too much of a hit on files.wowace? |
| 17:06.22 | trh | Kaelten: ya, but you can add some checks in the index page i.e. check if the user at least downloaded the image from the server and provide no page if he didn't - ofc you can workaround these too |
| 17:06.24 | |Kev| | I can probably add no externals if it's going to help |
| 17:06.25 | cladhaire | |Kev|: as he said.. the bll last month was 1k. |
| 17:06.29 | |Kev| | nice |
| 17:06.33 | wobin_ | WAU will certainly help, as I think one of the main problems people had with non-embedded libraries was the "where do I get the other dependancies" |
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| 17:06.36 | |Kev| | and sorry, wasn't reading up |
| 17:06.39 | Thrae | 7z the files with "Ultra Settings"! |
| 17:06.50 | Thrae | Only increase update time by a factor of 500%! |
| 17:06.55 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 17:07.01 | Lyfe | the files.wowace.com bill for last month was $1k? |
| 17:07.02 | Kaelten | also I'm hoping to do away with SAL |
| 17:07.09 | Kaelten | Lyfe: for the site in general |
| 17:07.09 | Mikk | please |
| 17:07.12 | |Kev| | so what's Kaelten proposing? svn within wau, more or less? |
| 17:07.19 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 17:07.21 | Kaelten | |Kev|: no ads |
| 17:07.26 | wobin_ | if wau automatically checks the dependancies for download then that'll help |
| 17:07.29 | Kaydeethree | gah. compression programs that take longer to decompress than download totally defeat the purpose |
| 17:07.30 | |Kev| | Kaelten: ? |
| 17:07.32 | Kaelten | svn would be much more resource intensive |
| 17:07.33 | |Kev| | oh, right |
| 17:07.35 | Lyfe | still, it's .. a website with lots of data... |
| 17:07.40 | |Kev| | you mean "no, adds", right? |
| 17:07.41 | hypetech | is the client for the PTR seperate from the normal client? |
| 17:07.47 | Kaydeethree | what program was notorious for that a few years ago? adobe reader? |
| 17:07.48 | Mikk | no, "no, ads" |
| 17:07.50 | Kaydeethree | hype; yes |
| 17:07.54 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.02 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: where does it install to? |
| 17:08.06 | wobin_ | hypetech: yes |
| 17:08.08 | winkiller | should standalonelibs + no externals give a performance boost? |
| 17:08.14 | Kaydeethree | %YourWoWDir%\WoWTest |
| 17:08.15 | Mikk | yes |
| 17:08.17 | wobin_ | hypetech: since it's technically another patch |
| 17:08.26 | Mikk | winkiller: load time boost. not in-game perf boost. |
| 17:08.35 | |Kev| | if you provide a way to get an add banner from files, wowace, and it's not going to be innappropriate ads, I don't mind adding a pane for you |
| 17:08.49 | |Kev| | s/files, wowace/files.wowace/ |
| 17:08.57 | winkiller | Mikk: ok, thanks |
| 17:09.04 | |Kev| | (to mau) |
| 17:09.07 | Kaelten | |Kev|: which updater you run? |
| 17:09.10 | winkiller | but what magnitude of loading boost? |
| 17:09.15 | Mikk | x3 |
| 17:09.17 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: I don't see a WoWTest |
| 17:09.21 | |Kev| | mau probably isn't the big problem though, only 2k users or so |
| 17:09.22 | Thrae | Kaelten: Are the ZIPs done with compress, gzip, rar, or 7z? The latter three have better ZIP compression algorithms included in their programs. |
| 17:09.22 | Mikk | depending on the number of addons ofc |
| 17:09.30 | winkiller | ~50 ace I guess |
| 17:09.33 | cladhaire | well, they're .zip |
| 17:09.35 | cladhaire | what do you think? |
| 17:09.39 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 17:09.42 | Kaydeethree | the WoW-2.1.1.6739-to-0.1.2.6757-enUS-downloader.exe/patch.exe will create it |
| 17:09.46 | wobin_ | arj! |
| 17:09.48 | Kalman| | Idle curiosity, but the way Babble is structured, would it be possible to do basically locale-specific versions of it towards memory savings? |
| 17:09.51 | Kaelten | threa its python's API ZIP thing |
| 17:09.57 | trh | wobin_: arj was cool =) |
| 17:09.57 | |Kev| | Lyfe: glad to hear it :) |
| 17:10.05 | wobin_ | trh: ^^ |
| 17:10.10 | Kaelten | brb |
| 17:10.12 | durcyn | just lzh it, it was good enough for unisys! |
| 17:10.16 | wobin_ | I'm surprised I remembered it =) |
| 17:10.22 | wobin_ | rot13 the files! |
| 17:10.22 | Mikk | zoo |
| 17:10.22 | Lyfe | you have a request section somewhere? (i haven't looked, and really don't want to unload on you here) :P |
| 17:10.26 | Mikk | zoo was win |
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| 17:10.32 | Thrae | cladhaire: There's different levels of compression and different algorithms used between programs like compress, etc. Most modern unzippers and Zip API can detect newer algorithms. |
| 17:10.34 | trh | wobin_: but .rar was better when it came out... alot better =) |
| 17:10.35 | Mikk | Lyfe: forums |
| 17:10.38 | Kaydeethree | download it from here: http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/ put the file you download in your WoW directory and run it, let it get the patch and install it. |
| 17:10.39 | |Kev| | Kaelten: if you do decide to do something like this, please give me a poke in a query to make sure I notice |
| 17:10.40 | wobin_ | trh: very true |
| 17:10.44 | cladhaire | Thrae: yes.. btu a .zip file is a .zip file.. |
| 17:10.48 | cladhaire | using the pkzip version of deflate |
| 17:10.49 | |Kev| | I hate ads as much as the next guy, but I'll do my bit to help |
| 17:10.51 | Kaydeethree | hypetech, ^ |
| 17:11.13 | |Kev| | if it was adwords, could probably pull them straight from google, rather than having to come from files.wowace |
| 17:11.18 | Andune | kaelten: i haven't seen in mentioned yet, but it would be nice if you had a 'paid' mode that allowed someone to not see the ads. |
| 17:11.19 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: ya, I did that, it ran the backgroud updater, then nothing |
| 17:11.25 | Adirelle | cladhaire: not really, there is two zip deflate IIRC |
| 17:11.35 | Kaydeethree | open up your wow directory there should be a WoW-2.1.1-0.1.2-patch.exe file. run that |
| 17:11.40 | Adirelle | cladhaire: the old one from pkzip, and another one, newer, used in winzip |
| 17:11.47 | cladhaire | Adirelle: yes, but they don't use 7z, or any of the others that thrae was proposing. |
| 17:11.49 | Andune | kaelten: something cheap, like alla's. maybe $1/month. I'd gladly pay that to help support the service and to not have to see any ads. |
| 17:11.58 | Mikk | as with most modern compression algorithms, zip deflate only defines the format, not the actual packing algorithm |
| 17:12.07 | Mikk | so it's possible to compress better and worse with the saem format |
| 17:12.17 | Mikk | same with .jpg for instance |
| 17:12.22 | Thrae | I can name my dog .zip, it doesn't mean it uses LZ77 compression :D |
| 17:12.24 | cladhaire | yes, but not change the underlying algorithm |
| 17:12.24 | Andune | get 500 of us who think the same thing, and that's half your bill right there. and you can still generate ad revenue from the thousands of other people who don't pay. |
| 17:12.26 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 17:12.28 | Adirelle | gtg |
| 17:12.29 | Adirelle | cya |
| 17:12.31 | Mudkipz | ... |
| 17:12.40 | Mudkipz | so i herd |
| 17:12.44 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: it's just not there :-\ I'll try to run the patch from the site again |
| 17:13.04 | Kaydeethree | that shouldn't be necessary, where'd you save the file you downloaded from wow.com? |
| 17:13.29 | hypetech | I saved that file to my desktop |
| 17:13.39 | Kaydeethree | did it download the patch to your desktop too? |
| 17:13.52 | hypetech | no, I looked there first, I assumed that's where it would go |
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| 17:14.04 | hypetech | the .part file is on my desktop right now though as it is redownloading |
| 17:14.04 | Thrae | Kaelten: How about -- donation goals, where when each goal is met, you finally update all your addons? :D |
| 17:14.15 | trh | Thrae: lol |
| 17:14.15 | Kaydeethree | weird. you may want to open up windows search and look for the string "WoW-2.1.1.6739-to-0.1.2.6757-enUS-patch.exe" |
| 17:14.41 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40248 10Postal/Postal.toc: Postal: Use AddonLoader as LoadManager (onmailbox, onslash) |
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| 17:15.15 | Mikk | ok, would people mind horribly if i ran through bloody everything in the SVN and made it LoadManager:AddonLoader when appropriate? |
| 17:15.23 | Kalman| | Thrae: I might put cash towards a KCI goal too. |
| 17:15.41 | Kalman| | Though KCI2 is honestly working pretty well for me. |
| 17:15.48 | durcyn | mikk: you'd get lynched, kergoth-style |
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| 17:15.56 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: heh, it put it in c:\documents and settings\<username>, the directory above desktop *shrug* |
| 17:16.10 | |Kev| | Thrae: in my experience, things like that don't work too well, because people like to think they're giving of their free will, not out of necessity |
| 17:16.13 | Mikk | kergoth doesn't intimidate me... too much :P |
| 17:16.15 | Kaydeethree | move that to the same folder as wow.exe and run it from there |
| 17:16.21 | Thrae | Mikk: Let me look at AddonLoader |
| 17:16.29 | Mikk | it's forkliftgnome but with a sane name |
| 17:16.30 | durcyn | Mikk: no, you'd be lynched the same way he was during that svn-props fiasco |
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| 17:16.51 | Kaydeethree | there's a ~7MB patch after that, but it works like a regular wow patch. just let it do its thing and the ptr client will automagically update itself |
| 17:16.52 | Mikk | and will also get some APIs so that people can make frontends for it |
| 17:16.55 | Awaa | BigWigs\Core.lue:345: "Counter Bars" does not have a vaild revision field - Got it when i zoned into BWL. |
| 17:16.59 | Mikk | (think ACP & co) |
| 17:17.04 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: there we go, it's installing the patch now tyvm :) |
| 17:17.06 | Kaydeethree | gah. keep trying to hit alt+ <-- to scroll back in the input box |
| 17:17.08 | Kaydeethree | np |
| 17:21.35 | hypetech | thank god, they're fixing the misdirection bug |
| 17:21.35 | Mikk | And the cool thing about having everything LoadManager:AddonLoader + AlwaysLoad, means that ACP & co can demand load anything without UI reloads \o/ |
| 17:21.35 | Thrae | Mikk: AddonLoader could be a lot smaller, wait until nymbia completes that. |
| 17:21.35 | Mikk | Thrae: Anything particular you have in mind? |
| 17:21.35 | Mikk | Cause I know for a fact Nymbia isn't going tobe doing a lot of coding the next couple of weeks |
| 17:21.35 | wobin_ | hm |
| 17:21.35 | Kaelten | back |
| 17:21.35 | trh | hypetech: oh :( it was sooo much fun to wipe the group with 2 non-crits for like 700 each and a big 2k crit afterwards :) |
| 17:21.36 | hypetech | trh: I know, right? heh |
| 17:21.36 | wobin_ | Kaelten: Do you have a list of the emails of all the svn accounts? |
| 17:21.36 | Kaelten | wobin_: not really |
| 17:21.36 | cladhaire | you should |
| 17:21.36 | Kaelten | why? |
| 17:21.36 | cladhaire | from the svn google group |
| 17:21.36 | trh | hypetech: hehe.. i always threaten other raidmembers to pull aggro to them if they break my ice traps :P |
| 17:21.36 | wobin_ | Cause that could be a way to notify svn users of possible changes |
| 17:21.36 | Kaelten | cladhaire: I do kinda |
| 17:21.36 | Thrae | Mikk: Well, unless nymbia wants it to be AceAddonLoader, all Ace libraries should be removed, localization and user-defined settings should be moved into a seperate addon. The main LoadManager, in my opinion, should be a tiny addon as simple as possible, as generic as possible. |
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| 17:21.36 | cladhaire | thats why we set that up |
| 17:21.36 | wobin_ | like what kergoth did, and what Mikk is suggesting |
| 17:21.36 | Kaelten | what is Mikk suggesting again? |
| 17:21.36 | Kaelten | he's weird |
| 17:21.36 | Mikk | haha |
| 17:21.36 | [R]Ispide | anyone here can help me a second with gladiator addon ? was working perfect till when i changed the spells bound to right / left click ... now even if i choose spell... it always uses "target" function - anyone has the same problem ? |
| 17:21.36 | wobin_ | <Mikk> ok, would people mind horribly if i ran through bloody everything in the SVN and made it LoadManager:AddonLoader when appropriate? |
| 17:21.36 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: that's an understatement |
| 17:21.37 | hypetech | wow, hyjal getting a big nerf |
| 17:21.37 | hypetech | changing from 12 waves to 8 with less mobs in the big waves |
| 17:21.37 | Mikk | <Mikk> And the cool thing about having everything LoadManager:AddonLoader + AlwaysLoad, means that ACP & co can demand load anything without UI reloads \o/ |
| 17:21.37 | Kaydeethree | meh. the trash sucks |
| 17:21.37 | Kaydeethree | especially since there's no loot and no rep |
| 17:21.37 | hypetech | ya, that does suck |
| 17:21.37 | hypetech | heh |
| 17:21.37 | Kaelten | Mikk: ya, I do mind. I have strict feelings about editing others files compulsively |
| 17:21.37 | Thrae | Mikk: This not only reduces the size of the addon, but reduces what could go wrong with it, making maintenance easier. Using Ace2 libraries does make maintenance easier for big projects, but for something as tiny, yet critical, as a LoadManager, it should be avoided. |
| 17:21.37 | Mikk | Good point Thrae |
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| 17:21.57 | Mikk | I totally agree with that myself |
| 17:21.57 | Mikk | I just didn't realize people around here did :> |
| 17:21.58 | Mikk | I thought most people were like "omg, must be ace" |
| 17:22.00 | wobin_ | More than you'd think =P |
| 17:22.11 | Thrae | We all know what channels you're in :D |
| 17:22.18 | wobin_ | hehe |
| 17:22.36 | Mikk | Well, I certainly wouldn't mind ripping Ace out of AddonLoader |
| 17:22.47 | Mikk | I'd have to do some magic with babble-zone but .. hey. |
| 17:23.06 | cladhaire | Mikk: Half of the libraries that exist on the ace svn would actually be useful to people, if they didn't use 13 other ace addons, just to get AceEvent or an OnUpdate |
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| 17:23.24 | wobin_ | s/addons/libraries/ ? |
| 17:23.37 | cladhaire | addons,sure.. other libraries.. not so much. They end up using a tiny percentage of the libraries they include. |
| 17:23.39 | cladhaire | yeah, wobin_ |
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| 17:24.10 | wobin_ | night all |
| 17:24.11 | cladhaire | but I wont include a library that requires AceOO, AceLibrary, AceEvent, and AceBumblefuck just to get 2-3 functions that help me. *shrug* |
| 17:24.15 | Thrae | Mikk: Yeah, make it require Babble-Zone to be an OptionalDep |
| 17:24.24 | wobin_ | Oh man, AceBumbleFuck |
| 17:24.29 | wobin_ | it has such great helper functions =) |
| 17:24.49 | Thrae | I've been waiting for http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tekonomics/, but Tekkub only has relatively a few (but most used) conditions included |
| 17:25.23 | grennon | acebumblefuck rules |
| 17:25.45 | cladhaire | word |
| 17:26.24 | grennon | pragmatically, i have like 5 ace libs that no other addon uses, and it makes little or no perceived impact on my gaming experience |
| 17:26.40 | kebinusan | How do I specify the number of decimal places to show with [CurHP:VeryShort] for example |
| 17:26.48 | grennon | that is, libs installed that only one mod i have installed calls |
| 17:26.51 | Thrae | Bah, I wasn't trying to bash Ace for its "size", I was mainly saying the LoadManager would be easier to maintain un-Ace'd, since the code is so simple. In fact, would a LoadManager need to watch events more then once? |
| 17:27.00 | hypetech | heh, hax. I can log into the PTR while my game card is expired ^_^. how long does a character copy take? I did it a few weeks ago, but I guess they wiped the PTR |
| 17:27.18 | grennon | aside from notions on how things should be done, the way things are done isnt necessarily bad |
| 17:27.20 | Kaydeethree | the site's got a semi-reasonable timer |
| 17:27.35 | Kaydeethree | should be an hour or so |
| 17:28.05 | hypetech | cool |
| 17:28.13 | hypetech | anybody here going to the WSVG in Louisville next week? |
| 17:28.24 | Thrae | LoadManager conditional fires -- it loads addons based on condition -- no more addons to load based on condition (if multiple conditions are required) -- conditions unregistered? |
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| 17:28.40 | Thrae | It's not like you can unload an addon. |
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| 17:29.13 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: I've never been on the PTR, is it pretty easy to find people to do endgame content? |
| 17:29.25 | Kaydeethree | depends how many people are on the server |
| 17:29.37 | Kaydeethree | since this is a minor patch, probably not many people are going to be raiding |
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| 17:29.47 | Kaydeethree | it was different for the 2.1.0 patch, as that was the whole point |
| 17:29.49 | hypetech | ya |
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| 17:32.50 | Fin | I'm telling you |
| 17:32.58 | Fin | the way forward is MegUltrAddOn |
| 17:33.18 | Fin | preparsed single-file addon compiled from the set of addons you want to use |
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| 17:33.50 | haste | I bet authors will love that |
| 17:34.06 | Fin | they can keep developing in the same way |
| 17:34.29 | Thrae | grennon: Weren't you the author of Minimalist? :D |
| 17:34.35 | trh | i'd think signed addon strings that users could distribute themself via whisper communication would rock ;) |
| 17:34.38 | Fin | it's just combining the seperate addons into one file before loading into the game |
| 17:34.44 | haste | Fin: not what I'm thinking of |
| 17:34.56 | hypetech | Kaydeethree: copy complete ^_^ |
| 17:35.04 | Fin | haste: what were you thinking of? |
| 17:35.09 | grennon | Thrae: that was the other grennon |
| 17:35.11 | haste | mostly the: 9121: attempt to index field 'something' (a nil value) |
| 17:35.24 | Thrae | grennon: Accept your responsibility! |
| 17:35.29 | Fin | although, I actually have been thinking about trying to integrate about 100 of the addons I have installed into one thing lately |
| 17:35.47 | Fin | (move the "lately" back a few words to make a decent sentence, there) |
| 17:35.59 | Thrae | Fin: The author of minimalist found a tiny bit less overhead to just combining small addons into one hyper-mega addon, assuming you use at least 90% of its features. |
| 17:36.16 | grennon | i made minimalist for me and my friends |
| 17:36.48 | Thrae | grennon: Yes, but you still herald'd the savings on the old Ace forums ;) |
| 17:36.57 | Thrae | Not to say I don't use Minimalist, I do |
| 17:36.58 | grennon | because its stuff we use but got tired of using the ctcore + 11 other small mods to do |
| 17:37.00 | Fin | Thrae: the overhead that MegUltrAddOn would mainly do away with is having to load ~9000 files |
| 17:37.36 | grennon | well, it was like 18k of code at one time, and much smaller than the ct core which had a lot of the same tweaks |
| 17:37.39 | Fin | it might as well be one big file to WoW anyway, that's how it's parsed, right? |
| 17:37.49 | kebinusan | Is there a dogtag format to say always show a value to 3 significant digits, like 92.3M 9.23K 920 |
| 17:37.57 | Thrae | Everything's modular these days, Fin |
| 17:38.11 | Thrae | PitBull itself is made up of like 9,000 files :D |
| 17:38.14 | grennon | the reputation functions are like 25 lines of code? and replaced the mod commonly used mode of Reputation mod |
| 17:38.27 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r40250 10AtlasLoot/Instances/ (burningcrusade.en.lua original.en.lua): |
| 17:38.27 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:38.27 | CIA-22 | - Loot improvements |
| 17:38.28 | Fin | sure, I'm just saying, prepare it for WoW so that it doesn't have to load so many files and churn up the hard drive for five minutes to reload the UI |
| 17:38.29 | grennon | so thats a huge saving if you use the rep function |
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| 17:38.54 | grennon | but in the end, its a mod for me by me |
| 17:38.55 | Thrae | grennon: Isn't that what I just said? If you use most of the features, it's a savings ;) |
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| 17:39.36 | grennon | yeah, i like it when i get emails where someone replaced a bunch of larger mods with it |
| 17:39.42 | grennon | but its not for everyone |
| 17:41.27 | nadas | hmm, antiarc's skin update for omen really broke it didn't it? or is it just me? i'm getting overlapping bars and stuff.. :( |
| 17:41.51 | abyssichate | it didn't fo rme |
| 17:41.52 | abyssichate | *for |
| 17:41.55 | nadas | hmm |
| 17:41.58 | nadas | strange |
| 17:42.14 | Kaydeethree | mine's working ok. just wish I could shrink the frame width some more |
| 17:43.31 | nadas | seems i'm only getting issues with the default skinn |
| 17:43.39 | nadas | or maybe i'm drunk |
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| 17:46.59 | abyssichate | try to reset it |
| 17:47.03 | abyssichate | or set it all again |
| 17:47.41 | Daemona | nadas, seems like switching skins fixes it, the tech skins works ok for me |
| 17:48.26 | nadas | Daemona: yeah, could be some odd old settings on my system |
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| 17:48.59 | abyssichate | the new sliders for the font size are pure love though |
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| 17:49.23 | KarlThePagan | I have an assesment user question |
| 17:49.29 | KarlThePagan | how do I view my history items? |
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| 17:54.55 | Mech0z | Running with Omen in a lame karazhan run |
| 17:55.03 | Mech0z | only 2 other peopel except myself is showing up |
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| 17:55.15 | Mech0z | all are using ktm, and those 2 as well. Iam the only one using omen |
| 17:55.29 | Mech0z | so dotn get why none is showing except for those 2 |
| 17:55.34 | hypetech | there are like 5 people online on the PTR :-\ |
| 17:56.33 | Mech0z | ckknight you know of the "bug" |
| 17:56.53 | Mech0z | all ktm users should show if I have that thing ktm thing tagged right? |
| 17:57.37 | Peoii | oye vae. |
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| 17:58.16 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: you must not like IMS |
| 17:58.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:58.19 | Thorgard^2 | Moo. |
| 17:58.25 | KarlThePagan | ims? |
| 17:58.33 | KarlThePagan | ah sry... trillian hurt me |
| 17:58.39 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40251 10AddonLoader/AddonLoader.toc: AddonLoader: Fix email field in toc so wiki doesn't barf on it |
| 17:58.42 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:58.48 | Lywellyn | lol barf |
| 17:58.49 | Kaelten | I know I got fed up with trillian a long time ago |
| 17:58.54 | wobin_ | pidgin! |
| 17:58.56 | wobin_ | ftw |
| 17:58.56 | Thorgard^2 | Auf.. |
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| 17:59.01 | Kaelten | I just run multiple clients |
| 17:59.14 | wobin_ | Kaelten: Pidgin is quite good |
| 17:59.16 | Lywellyn | There were a few things I liked about Trillian.....but a ton more I didn't. |
| 17:59.26 | Thorgard^2 | Why did Violation stop reporting/showing data from other people in my group (running the same revision, etc.)? |
| 18:00.01 | Hjalte | I used Trillian back when they made 2.0 and to the time they released 3.0 or so.. It was nice, but it just annoyed me when i couldnt send files or be sure that people got my whispers. |
| 18:00.05 | Ominous_ | afternoon |
| 18:00.08 | Iceroth | bleh, another crash when zoning out from bg, aceeventframe again in crash dump :s |
| 18:00.31 | hypetech | did they take the tier set token guy out of the PTR? :( |
| 18:00.35 | hypetech | Johnny McWeaksauce or whatever |
| 18:01.12 | KarlThePagan | yea trillian hates to reconnect after i switch networks... |
| 18:01.12 | Kalman| | hypetech: Probably, they're not aiming for BT testing so no point in having him around. |
| 18:01.14 | KarlThePagan | what a punk |
| 18:01.19 | hypetech | lame, heh |
| 18:02.10 | |Kev| | but truthfully the transports are a bit sucky :) |
| 18:02.30 | Tornhoof | miranda |
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| 18:03.04 | |Kev| | all the above can connect to Jabber, so none are too bad in my book :) |
| 18:03.31 | Kaelten | I like Adium but its mac only |
| 18:03.39 | |Kev| | adium is pretty much pidgen for mac |
| 18:03.50 | |Kev| | I think they even recommend it on the pidgin site, iirc |
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| 18:03.55 | Peoii | Iceroth: AceEvent20Frame in the memory dump? |
| 18:04.06 | Kaelten | hrm I'll look at pidgen |
| 18:04.14 | Iceroth | Peoii, yeah |
| 18:04.21 | |Kev| | pidgin, I think I'm misspelling it, sorry |
| 18:04.28 | Peoii | Iceroth: I have the exact same problem, been trying to track it down. |
| 18:04.38 | wobin_ | http://www.pidgin.im |
| 18:05.26 | kenlyric | I seriously dislike their limited IRC implementation, but it works, and it works for everything. |
| 18:05.47 | Peoii | Iceroth: when did your crashes start? |
| 18:05.50 | |Kev| | I just don't really like multiprotocol clients :) |
| 18:05.59 | Iceroth | 2-3 days ago i'd say |
| 18:06.06 | Iceroth | i update my addons kinda daily |
| 18:07.11 | Peoii | same. |
| 18:07.28 | Arrowmaster | ive been too lazy to switch away from trillian |
| 18:07.32 | Peoii | Go to your wowfolder/Errors/ and you can see the date range... mine all started on a very specific day. |
| 18:07.38 | Arrowmaster | although ive never ever used it for irc and never will |
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| 18:08.00 | abyssichate | I couldn't live without irc |
| 18:08.02 | Peoii | And I'm actually trying to cause a crash right now... and failing. |
| 18:08.02 | Iceroth | 14th it seems |
| 18:08.07 | Peoii | Same :) |
| 18:09.17 | Peoii | Just got into an AV, this should be about the ultimate test. Typically happens when there is a lot of moving around in a group makeup while in a raid. |
| 18:09.40 | Iceroth | hmm, yeah, i get crashes a lot when leaving the BG |
| 18:09.59 | Kaydeethree | hey ckknight, you alive? |
| 18:11.40 | Iceroth | first i thought it was some corrupted file issue but apparently not |
| 18:11.52 | Iceroth | i've tried from both vista and xp, crash crash crash |
| 18:13.01 | Peoii | 2 questions: Do you run Waterfall? and do you run Violation_CombatLogRange? |
| 18:13.08 | Peoii | oh, and do you run pitbull? |
| 18:13.41 | Iceroth | erm, i have addons that have waterfall |
| 18:13.47 | Iceroth | no that violation thing |
| 18:13.56 | Iceroth | and i got crash with violation (and omen) disabled |
| 18:14.07 | Iceroth | and i'm running pitbull, has been ok so far with it disabled |
| 18:14.32 | hypetech | --[[ is the syntax for a block comment in lua right? |
| 18:14.51 | KarlThePagan | ok so does anyone remember in the TBC beta when you could make the overhead nameplates appear from a longer distance away? |
| 18:15.02 | KarlThePagan | I want to know how to do that again... or if it's been disabled totally :( |
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| 18:19.04 | ulic | hypetech: 99% sure yes |
| 18:19.18 | hypetech | ulic: thank you |
| 18:19.23 | kenlyric | they really need to flush the mote of shadow data out of wowhead. |
| 18:19.30 | Antiarc | Morning all |
| 18:19.46 | ulic | morning, Oh Master of Threat |
| 18:20.24 | abyssichate | Thanks for adding the font size options, Antiarc! |
| 18:20.45 | Antiarc | :) |
| 18:22.36 | Kaydeethree | hey antiarc, could I beg a request of you? |
| 18:22.40 | Antiarc | Sure |
| 18:23.03 | [dRaCo] | does wound poison work on illhoof? |
| 18:23.03 | Kaydeethree | any chance we could make the omen window smaller left-right? I can make it bigger all I want, but even after removing columns I can't shrink it |
| 18:23.20 | Antiarc | Kaydeethree: Yeah, sure can |
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| 18:24.54 | kbh | interface\addons\pitbull\layouts\abf.lua:2119: attempt to index field 'showntexts' (a nil value) and my frames arent showing any text whatsoever |
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| 18:29.21 | Peoii | Iceroth: well holy crap, i left the av without a hitch. and it was full of all 40 people. |
| 18:29.28 | Hjalte | kbh, i'm also getting that error but i only see no text on the buu-layout frames i have. abf layout is still showing text. |
| 18:29.39 | Iceroth | with or without pitbull loaded? |
| 18:29.45 | Peoii | With |
| 18:30.00 | Peoii | I'm kinda confused... trying again. |
| 18:31.52 | kbh | yeah, the buu layout is just borked |
| 18:36.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I think all non-abf layouts will be borked, because of some changes ckknight is making. Try reverting a few revisions |
| 18:36.27 | Iceroth | no problems here either with av, i didn't have pitbull loaded though |
| 18:37.03 | ckknight | kbh: the Buu layout is deprecated, it can be created with the ABF layout. |
| 18:39.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40252 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - fix possible issue with a nil shownTexts |
| 18:39.31 | ckknight | kbh: there we go |
| 18:39.51 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40253 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Apply skin after FullyInitialized to address some problems that occur on first combat. |
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| 18:43.47 | hypetech | okay, I'm just messing around with Ace2 and some basic lua right now. I found the page on wowace for the WelcomeHome addon, and I'm looking at the section for chat commands and config, and I can't get the option in game to actually change the message. It says that the new message is set, but nothing acutally changes. Anybody that can help me real quick? |
| 18:43.53 | hypetech | link to the section is http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 18:44.21 | Arrowmaster | what do you mean 'It says that the new message is set' |
| 18:45.04 | hypetech | when I run "/wh msg Hello", it says "msg is now set to hello" |
| 18:45.11 | hypetech | am I just understanding which message it is wrong? |
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| 18:46.16 | Arrowmaster | you have WelcomeHome:SetMessage defined? |
| 18:46.37 | hypetech | function WelcomeHome:SetMessage(newValue) |
| 18:46.37 | hypetech | self.message = newValue |
| 18:47.15 | Dustwhisper | Any documentation on how to hook into the auctionhouse alla auctioneer does? |
| 18:47.26 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r40254 10Omen/localization_deDE.lua: |
| 18:47.26 | CIA-22 | Omen: - Translated missing Options into deDE |
| 18:47.26 | CIA-22 | - Removed ASCII Codes for German Umlauts since File is in UTF-8 |
| 18:47.27 | Arrowmaster | and /wh msg prints our your new message? |
| 18:47.28 | hypetech | I didn't know if placement mattered but I tried putting that before and after function WelcomeHome:ZONE_CHANGED() |
| 18:47.43 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: yes, and if I do /wh after that it also displays the new message |
| 18:47.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40255 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add tag RepReaction (thanks, Nemes!) |
| 18:47.51 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: then when I /rl, it's back to default |
| 18:47.59 | hypetech | so I guess it's not writing it to somewhere |
| 18:48.16 | Mikk | Dustwhisper: not really. go look at auctioneer tbh. or framexml. |
| 18:48.20 | Arrowmaster | is ## SavedVariables: in your toc? |
| 18:48.34 | hypetech | ## SavedVariables: WelcomeHomeDB |
| 18:48.56 | Athou | ckknight: would it be possible to set the background of the the blank space separately from the rest of the frame ? |
| 18:49.04 | Mudkipz | is ace having talks with auctioneer creator? |
| 18:49.15 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r40256 10KingOfTheJungle/ (6 files): |
| 18:49.15 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 18:49.15 | CIA-22 | - Lots of small changes everywhere. |
| 18:49.15 | CIA-22 | - Added option to change popup direction. |
| 18:49.16 | Mikk | ? |
| 18:49.18 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: in my SavedVariables file, it is "WelcomeHomeDB = nil" |
| 18:49.18 | Mudkipz | that would be awesome |
| 18:49.26 | Mikk | what? |
| 18:49.31 | Mikk | having talks? |
| 18:49.35 | Mudkipz | I dunno |
| 18:49.38 | ckknight | Athou: it has no background. it's blank :-P |
| 18:49.44 | Mikk | norganna isn't likely to ace auctioneer if that's what you're asking |
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| 18:50.07 | ckknight | I've talked with norganna about stuff |
| 18:50.08 | Mikk | and if you think that it'd automagically be lots faster and less time consuming just because it became aced, you need a reality check |
| 18:50.16 | ckknight | more Gatherer related, though |
| 18:50.20 | ckknight | cause of Cartographer |
| 18:50.30 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: try looking at the final source files part and seeing if that matches what you have |
| 18:50.42 | ckknight | it's a big reason why Cartographer is now GPL, so that we can steal code easily |
| 18:51.02 | Athou | ckknight: yep, but my playerframe has a background color and i'd like the blank space to be transparent :( |
| 18:51.06 | trh_ | is there a way to set acecomm to also hide/suppress old acecomm whisper messages? |
| 18:51.21 | ckknight | Athou: that's impossible, as the blank space is on top of the background |
| 18:51.22 | trh_ | there are so many lazy people not updating their mods |
| 18:51.57 | ckknight | trh_: ugh, no, and I'm not adding it |
| 18:52.33 | trh_ | ckknight: that's bad, because QueryAddonVersion for automatic version gathering is kinda useless without it |
| 18:52.57 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: well it changes the call method from self.message to self.db.profile.message, so it's not the same. I did see that WelcomeHome:RegisterDB("WelcomeHomeDB", "WelcomeHomeDBPC") is snuck in there, would I need that for the part I'm on? since I'm getting WelcomeHomeDB = nil |
| 18:52.57 | trh_ | ckknight: bc you get spammed by 20 whispers after issueing a query |
| 18:53.24 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: yeah that RegisterDB is needed |
| 18:53.27 | undu | well trh_, you should introduce them to wowaceupdater, after that they don't really have any reason not to update. |
| 18:53.40 | Antiarc | hahahah, woot |
| 18:53.44 | Antiarc | I can test shadow priest threat |
| 18:53.48 | trh_ | undu: don't you think i tried? i'm actually telling them every week since 2 months to update |
| 18:53.51 | Antiarc | I logged on to my 61 shadow priest to test |
| 18:53.54 | trh_ | undu: not even the half of them did |
| 18:53.55 | Antiarc | And I get a raid invite |
| 18:53.57 | Antiarc | "wtf is this?" |
| 18:54.03 | Antiarc | "We're raiding BWL!" |
| 18:54.06 | Kaydeethree | hahaha |
| 18:54.11 | trh_ | lol |
| 18:54.14 | Antiarc | Apparently it's neglected-alts-raid-BWL day |
| 18:54.17 | Antiarc | Just for the hell of it |
| 18:54.20 | Kaydeethree | we've actually got a pug raiding bwl right now on medivh, kinda funny |
| 18:54.52 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: reread the 'Saving Configuration Between Sessions' again it mentions all that |
| 18:54.57 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: heh, I put in that registerdb line and it just stops working...oh well I suppose I'll figure it out |
| 18:55.27 | undu | trh_ make sure you explain how easy it is to install and what exactly wau does, how you can update all your addons by pressing 2 buttons! |
| 18:55.37 | Arrowmaster | i just edited that 'Saving Configuration Between Sessions' because i noticed some fucktard left ; line endings in it |
| 18:55.40 | trh_ | undu: did it.. they are lazy fucks |
| 18:55.44 | Mudkipz | raid naxx imo |
| 18:55.48 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: means that the tutorial is borked though :p |
| 18:55.58 | Mudkipz | and experience bosses you couldn't do because the expansion came around too soon |
| 18:56.03 | Kaydeethree | heh. I oughta go back to naxx. wanna see KT again |
| 18:56.03 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: it looks like it should all work |
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| 18:56.26 | Mudkipz | KT is boring |
| 18:56.33 | Mudkipz | I wanna see 4 horsemen |
| 18:56.36 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: it works up until the point I'm at where you try to change the message in game |
| 18:56.40 | Kaydeethree | 8 tanks? gah |
| 18:56.50 | Birdemani | you really dont need 8 tanks anymore |
| 18:56.52 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: is WelcomeHome.message the same as self.message for those purposes? |
| 18:56.58 | Birdemani | you an do it with 6 |
| 18:56.59 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: yes |
| 18:57.06 | Birdemani | we did naxx a couple weeks ago |
| 18:57.07 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: depending on where its used |
| 18:57.18 | Birdemani | you can take a lot more marks from 4h due to gear and stam increases |
| 18:57.24 | Mudkipz | it was so awesome tanking all the aboms to patchwerk |
| 18:57.55 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: http://rafb.net/p/YXX41l20.html |
| 18:58.04 | hypetech | I'm assuming my positioning of something is wrong |
| 18:58.21 | Kaydeethree | meh, I'm such an ass. just sent an 18-slot bagfull of greens to the guild enchanter to DE |
| 18:58.53 | Mudkipz | why is that? |
| 18:59.09 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: yeah you got a lot of things wrong... |
| 18:59.14 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: heh |
| 18:59.17 | hypetech | tutorial ftw |
| 18:59.18 | Mudkipz | I just catch them when it's downtime and mail back all my greens |
| 18:59.20 | Kaydeethree | because the entire guild's sending an 18-slot bagfull of greens to him to DE |
| 18:59.27 | kov` | i do that all the time Kaydeethree |
| 18:59.35 | kov` | he's not really amused, but he stil ldoes it :D |
| 18:59.42 | Mudkipz | they don't mind so much if you share some of the de's |
| 18:59.45 | Arrowmaster | maybe tutorial should have a 'this is the old line' and 'this is what were replacing it with' |
| 18:59.49 | kov` | blame blizzard for nerfing low level enchant chars |
| 18:59.50 | Kaydeethree | meh. the dusts are his. we're helping restock |
| 18:59.51 | kov` | :< |
| 19:00.09 | Mudkipz | prospecting is more fun though |
| 19:00.14 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: you seem to be missing a lot of parts of the tutorial where you have to change previous stuff |
| 19:00.16 | Mudkipz | it's kind of like gambling |
| 19:00.48 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: there aren't that many steps 0.o lol |
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| 19:01.07 | Ominous | Fin: ping |
| 19:01.57 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: oh wait |
| 19:03.07 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: i thought you were further than you are |
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| 19:03.35 | hypetech | I just left self:Print("You have changed zones!") in so I could make sure at least the function was getting called, I know it's not necessary with self:Print(self.message) |
| 19:03.40 | hypetech | oooo |
| 19:03.42 | hypetech | wait |
| 19:03.42 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: have you actually started in the 'Saving Configuration Between Sessions' section? |
| 19:03.48 | hypetech | and no |
| 19:03.58 | Arrowmaster | ok that would be why its not saved when you reload |
| 19:04.18 | hypetech | well I was just reloading to check it, it doesn't save on the fly either |
| 19:04.30 | hypetech | but I might have been not going to my bind zone -.- |
| 19:04.50 | Arrowmaster | well change the message with /wh msg |
| 19:05.13 | Arrowmaster | then type /print WelcomeHome.message |
| 19:06.15 | Arrowmaster | did it change? |
| 19:06.22 | hypetech | it works, my bind zone is evergrove and I was only going as far as ruaan weld. I was getting confused thinking that my zone change message should have been the one changing, when it was the bindzone message that is the one changing |
| 19:07.37 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: ok then, continue on in the tutorial, just refer to the bottem if you get confused on where to place something |
| 19:07.49 | hypetech | tyvm |
| 19:08.14 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r40257 10XRS/XRS.toc: XRS: NINJACOMMIT: LoadManager AddonLoader (LoadOn-Raid) |
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| 19:15.40 | trh_ | ckknight: oh.. small bug report, "ZONE" needs to be added to be allowed as argument on QueryAddonMessage in AceComm |
| 19:16.04 | ckknight | to do what? |
| 19:16.18 | trh_ | ckknight: so i can query addon versions in a zone :) |
| 19:16.24 | SCULPT | Hi I am installing cargographer for the first time, what do the bat files in the directory do? |
| 19:16.27 | ckknight | no, trh_ |
| 19:16.36 | ckknight | trh_: that'd require everyone being in a zone channel |
| 19:16.38 | ckknight | it's unneeded |
| 19:16.54 | ckknight | SCULPT: take the modules out and put em in the addons folder |
| 19:18.09 | liquiem | what is bigwigs\extra\discovery? |
| 19:19.05 | SCULPT | ckknight I've done that, do I need to run those bats at all? |
| 19:19.16 | ckknight | no |
| 19:19.32 | Kemayo | Gngsk: There's a Tablet register option for it. I can't remember what it's called -- check QuestsFu.lua or the tablet docs. :) |
| 19:20.15 | Hjalte | Omen is acting weird (omen r40201, threat r40225), no errors but often the text is missing from the bar |
| 19:20.15 | Hjalte | s |
| 19:21.11 | Antiarc | Hjalte: Yeah, apply a skin or wait for fix :) |
| 19:22.10 | *** part/#wowace letmetry (n=C@chello080109148173.tirol.surfer.at) |
| 19:22.34 | Peoii | And boom, crash, someone had just joined the battleground... argh. |
| 19:23.42 | Dotted | Kaelten ping |
| 19:26.39 | trh_ | oh.. nice posting from kaelten in klhthreatmeters comments |
| 19:26.41 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40258 10Cartographer/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Cartographer: updated zhTW localization |
| 19:27.26 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40259 10Cartographer_Stats/ (Cartographer_Stats.lua Cartographer_Stats.toc): Cartographer_Stats: updated zhTW localization |
| 19:30.21 | [dRaCo] | AnkhTimerFu is broken :/ |
| 19:31.20 | moonsorrow | [dRaCo]: why? |
| 19:31.32 | NightHawkTheSane | [dRaCo]: its been working fine for me |
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| 19:31.34 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40260 10BigWigs/Karazhan/WizardofOz.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/WizardofOz: 2 sec cast |
| 19:32.45 | boobies4u | where do i paste error codes |
| 19:33.05 | Kaydeethree | if it's more than 3-4 lines, http://ace.pastey.net |
| 19:34.22 | boobies4u | http://ace.pastey.net/56987 |
| 19:34.24 | boobies4u | whats causing this? |
| 19:34.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40261 10PitBull/ (Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - in the unit menu, split up options into Bars/Icons/Texts/Other. Should make things much more manageable. |
| 19:34.57 | ckknight | plztest |
| 19:34.58 | ckknight | kthx |
| 19:35.11 | Kaydeethree | soon as the zip gets pushed to files |
| 19:35.13 | boobies4u | ckknight, could you help me please? |
| 19:35.26 | ckknight | boobies4u: some evil addon is probably overwriting a global |
| 19:35.59 | boobies4u | but im only using ace addons, or, only one that isent, is CT RA |
| 19:36.04 | boobies4u | but im not sure wich one can cause it |
| 19:36.13 | boobies4u | im up2date with all my addons atm |
| 19:36.26 | Kaydeethree | real easy way to find out... disable half of your addons, try to recreate the error |
| 19:36.50 | ckknight | right |
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| 19:36.54 | Kaydeethree | if you're still getting it, disable half of the addons you're using now. if not, enable the addons you just disabled and disable half of those |
| 19:37.05 | nevcairiel | boobies4u: type /dump issecurevariable("RAID_SUBGROUP_LISTS"); |
| 19:37.28 | nevcairiel | and see which addon taints it |
| 19:38.48 | boobies4u | that line give me 1, nil |
| 19:38.49 | boobies4u | heh |
| 19:38.54 | boobies4u | in pink |
| 19:38.58 | nevcairiel | so that var was never touched |
| 19:39.04 | nevcairiel | wonder why the index would be wrong |
| 19:39.16 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 19:39.33 | nevcairiel | do /dump issecurevariable("RAID_CLASS_BUTTONS"); |
| 19:39.39 | nevcairiel | there is where index comes from :D |
| 19:39.50 | Awaa | BigWigs_NefCount\BigWigs_NefCounterBars.lua:43 attempt to index global 'BigWigsBars' (a nil value) |
| 19:40.15 | boobies4u | same nevcairiel |
| 19:40.16 | boobies4u | 1, nil |
| 19:40.22 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:40.32 | nevcairiel | so no of the globals involved has been tampered with |
| 19:40.38 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 19:40.41 | ckknight | I dunno, then |
| 19:41.01 | trh_ | boobies4u: does it happen if you disable all addons? |
| 19:42.02 | Arrowmaster | Awaa: try updating BigWigs_NefCount because that file doesnt exist in mine |
| 19:42.17 | boobies4u | im not sure trh, its hard to get it |
| 19:42.39 | [dRaCo] | moonsorrow, NightHawkTheSane: it doesn't update when I ankh. |
| 19:42.56 | [dRaCo] | in fact, it just shows 5 ankhs, though I got 4 |
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| 19:43.31 | boobies4u | it happends if i forexample enslave a demon in mechanar, and the demon i enslaved dies |
| 19:43.33 | boobies4u | then i get that error |
| 19:43.36 | boobies4u | thats an example |
| 19:43.41 | Kemayo | wobin_: I've added script-running to wowace.py... it's in the trunk: http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ |
| 19:43.54 | Kemayo | wobin_: I haven't, like, *tested* it or anything. |
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| 19:44.48 | trh_ | boobies4u: do you use macros while playing? |
| 19:45.30 | trh_ | boobies4u: friend of mine had a error from blizzard ui always when he pressed that macro and addons where loaded |
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| 19:46.54 | Nickenyfiken | Uh whats the deal with all load managers. Why is there 3 of them and which one should be used? |
| 19:47.04 | Josh_Borke | Nickenyfiken: choice |
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| 19:49.28 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: ForkliftGnome is what I recommend |
| 19:50.01 | boobies4u | trh, i got some macros, but i never us em realy |
| 19:50.05 | boobies4u | and i dont use em to get the error |
| 19:50.08 | nevcairiel | AddonLoader is Forkliftgnome with a new name iirc :o |
| 19:50.16 | Mikk | correct |
| 19:50.18 | Nickenyfiken | OK |
| 19:50.19 | Mikk | use that |
| 19:50.25 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 19:50.32 | Nickenyfiken | Sounds weird to have addons list 3 different load managers |
| 19:51.07 | Nickenyfiken | Gonna make my own load manager and add it in all addons on the SVN :-P |
| 19:51.37 | boobies4u | trh, looks like the error comes often when people die, minion die when in a party instance |
| 19:51.43 | trh_ | boobies4u: no idea then |
| 19:51.54 | Mikk | well.. FG will be phased out.. the sole reason for the change is that people don't bloody get that downloading something called "ForkliftGnome" is a good idea |
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| 19:52.12 | Mikk | "AddonLoader" that sits at the top of the list though... that's another story |
| 19:52.16 | Mikk | And hopefully devs will notice it more too |
| 19:53.18 | Mikk | As for compatibility, anything that worked in FG will work in AddonLoader, so you can just list both of em in your addon |
| 19:53.36 | Mikk | If you want to support Supply&Demand, you need to use different directives |
| 19:53.50 | boobies4u | http://ace.pastey.net/56987 <--- but like, is there no way to see wich addon is fucking up? |
| 19:53.51 | Nickenyfiken | OK, so it's a replacement for the gnome |
| 19:54.06 | Hjalte | When a warrior uses the ability shield block, is it possible to count it somehow with an addon? There's some warriors in my guild that i suspect is not using it enough when tanking |
| 19:54.32 | Mikk | Nickenyfiken: yes, addonloader is forkliftgnome renamed and being worked smoe more on |
| 19:54.53 | Mikk | Hjalte: Enable combat logging and ctrl+f |
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| 19:55.05 | Mikk | in the resulting log file i mean |
| 19:55.14 | Nickenyfiken | Mikk: OK then I'll swap right now |
| 19:55.19 | NightHawkTheSane | "SomeWarrior gains Shield Block." should be the combat log message you'd get |
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| 19:55.37 | Hjalte | Okay, great. Thanks Mikk and NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | (i may be slightly off, but its close :P ) |
| 20:00.02 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r40262 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_CounterBars.lua: BigWigs_NefCount: BigWigsBars changed to BigWigs:GetModule("Bars") |
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| 20:00.26 | Ominous | kaelten: 196 fps oO |
| 20:00.33 | Kaelten | ? |
| 20:00.45 | BankZ | NefCount? |
| 20:00.46 | Ominous | the thing on curse |
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| 20:01.04 | Kaelten | ya |
| 20:01.14 | Arrowmaster | BankZ: old mod |
| 20:01.15 | Antiarc | $10 says Kenco's response will be "you're still at 183 FPS, why are you complaining?" |
| 20:01.23 | Ominous | preformance fu says u have 196 fps, thats insain |
| 20:01.32 | Kaelten | staring at a gray wall with an overclocked 8800 isn't that hard |
| 20:01.44 | Ominous | whats your normal playing fps |
| 20:01.55 | Kaelten | with vsync, 60 |
| 20:02.13 | Kaelten | :) |
| 20:02.22 | Kaelten | vsync off, 100-140 |
| 20:02.24 | Kaelten | give or take |
| 20:02.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: /hate |
| 20:04.14 | Kalman| | Aw, man. Graywall FPS is only 100 or so. :( |
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| 20:05.59 | zanthor | got a few guys in here who know performance? |
| 20:06.55 | zanthor | I've got an athlon 64 x2 4400 (not OC'd), nVidia 9700GT, 2gb ram... both cores hit about 50% when I run wow, but I still cap out around 20-30fps in Shattrah... I'd expected higher |
| 20:07.04 | zanthor | anyone have some suggestions for that? |
| 20:07.10 | Kaelten | I'm running anew dualcoreduo with a 8800 GTsomething OC2 from bfg tech |
| 20:07.53 | BankZ | zanthor: I get that with a 1.8ghz laptop |
| 20:08.20 | zanthor | I just haven't been able to find the bottleneck |
| 20:08.30 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: i hate you |
| 20:08.41 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: i'm going to come steal your machine |
| 20:08.55 | zanthor | the thing that boggles my mind is I can fire up a 2nd copy of wow and my performance doesn't change |
| 20:09.05 | zanthor | it's like wow's not using all it can for some reason |
| 20:09.53 | ZealotOnAStick | zanthor: what resolution and so forth, and how many macros do you have with conditionals? |
| 20:11.03 | zanthor | no conditional macro's |
| 20:11.10 | zanthor | 1280x1024 |
| 20:11.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. |
| 20:11.24 | zanthor | I can change the settings for detail, terrain distance, etc |
| 20:11.26 | zanthor | max them all |
| 20:11.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Same resolution as desktop? |
| 20:11.29 | zanthor | no performance hit |
| 20:11.32 | zanthor | yep |
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| 20:12.09 | Wixi | Is it duel screen? |
| 20:12.18 | ZealotOnAStick | That's patently bizarre. I've got a 64 x2 4400 with merely dual 7800GTXs in SLI . . . and I get from 30-55ish in Shatt, around 100 flying. |
| 20:12.39 | ZealotOnAStick | at 1600x1200 |
| 20:12.44 | zanthor | yes, I run a dual head system, however in debugging I've disabled one of hte monitors and no chagne |
| 20:13.26 | zanthor | Zoas, I get the same performance in XP and Vista as well... |
| 20:14.02 | Kemayo | Antiarc: Omen-2.1r40253\Omen.lua:154: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "Threat_ThreatCleared" to method "Clear", it does not exist |
| 20:14.18 | Kemayo | Antiarc: Also, Omen: AceConsole: args.showtest: "ShowTest" is not a proper function: |
| 20:14.24 | kbh | my open is wiggin out |
| 20:14.27 | kbh | err omen |
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| 20:14.42 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 20:15.01 | kbh | the bars go like under the space for them |
| 20:15.02 | Antiarc | Oh |
| 20:15.03 | Antiarc | Restart WoW |
| 20:15.06 | Antiarc | I added a file |
| 20:15.13 | ZealotOnAStick | have the WoW profile selected in the nvidia drivers? (running out of things to suggest here, other than toying with config.wtf settings at random) |
| 20:15.14 | Antiarc | kbh: That should be fixed with an update |
| 20:15.23 | kbh | alright, thanks |
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| 20:19.12 | Kaydeethree | oh nice. love the new config menu layout in pitbull |
| 20:19.27 | Wixi | for some reason BT3 isn't saving my cyCircled options |
| 20:19.43 | nevcairiel | thats a cyCircled issue, then :) |
| 20:19.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ZealotOnAStick: WoWs rendering code is pretty borked atm, if you look at my system: |
| 20:19.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 1726/2048MB (84.28%) RAM free. |
| 20:19.56 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, Sound Blaster Audigy, and 426.77 GB of 596.17 GB available on 1 drive(s). |
| 20:20.07 | trh_ | Wixi: you aren't german are you? ;) |
| 20:20.13 | hypetech | so I was looking at the AceGUI tutorial section, and the very top says "Do not use AceGUI, it is old, unmaintained and rotten." Is there a replacement for building a gui addon? |
| 20:20.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i still don't get 60 fps in shat with all addons loaded, and most of them aren't really CPU intensive |
| 20:20.20 | KriLL3 | Kaydeethree: dewdrop is nice and all, but half million options and sub menus makes me dizzy. |
| 20:20.22 | Wixi | hah no, i've been told what it means =/ |
| 20:20.30 | ckknight | hypetech: CreateFrame() |
| 20:20.36 | trh_ | Wixi: hehe.. good ;) |
| 20:20.59 | hypetech | ckknight: lol....ok...ty |
| 20:21.03 | KriLL3 | and it's odd that many options can't be set across all frames, sucks to change 3 frames individually |
| 20:21.06 | Wixi | trh_: Had i known when i rolled, i can pretty much say i wouldn't use this name |
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| 20:21.23 | trh_ | Wixi: hehe.. i bet on your server most people don't know ;) |
| 20:21.28 | KriLL3 | otherwise I love it, way better than other once I've tried |
| 20:21.34 | Kemayo | sedatedChipmunk: When you're up... I noticed that the mail not-being-removed-from-tablet problem only seems to happen if I open a mail and manually collect the item from it to delete it (which only really happens with auction mail). Shift-click to collect updates the tablet properly. |
| 20:21.51 | zanthor | got a guildy who's Omen isn't showing himself |
| 20:21.54 | Kaydeethree | ya, that's the biggest thing that's annoying me. can't set up groups of frames at the same time, like all of the MT/MA windows |
| 20:21.59 | Wixi | trh_: Yeh rolling on a US server helps |
| 20:22.23 | trh_ | Wixi: guess so.. but even on german servers people are named like that... so it's not too bad ;) |
| 20:22.33 | Wixi | trh_: hehe |
| 20:23.10 | hypetech | anybody know whether polymorph on a target is considered a buff or a debuff? |
| 20:23.17 | Kaydeethree | debuff |
| 20:23.18 | trh_ | hypetech: debuff, magic |
| 20:23.20 | Mikk | debuff obviously |
| 20:23.28 | Mikk | otherwise you'd be able to cancel it :> |
| 20:23.39 | trh_ | Mikk: there are buffs you can't cancel |
| 20:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: not that i know off |
| 20:23.56 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: trueshot aura |
| 20:23.57 | Mikk | buh? |
| 20:24.00 | Kaydeethree | only zone/grouped-player auras |
| 20:24.04 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: if it comes from another hunter in your party |
| 20:24.05 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: you can cancel that |
| 20:24.08 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: no |
| 20:24.13 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: it just instantly reapplies |
| 20:24.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 20:24.20 | Mikk | no, auras can't be cancelled. true. |
| 20:24.29 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: you don't get a fade message so it doesnt get cancelled |
| 20:24.38 | sag_ich_nicht | was it always like that or did they change it to that? >.> |
| 20:24.45 | trh_ | don't knoiw |
| 20:25.45 | zanthor | Anyone know if there's a problem with Parser lib? |
| 20:26.01 | zanthor | Threats giving a nil error trying to index something with parser lib |
| 20:26.23 | ckknight | what's the error? |
| 20:26.28 | durcyn | you'll have to be much more vague. |
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| 20:28.32 | zanthor | It's not on my PC, working on that |
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| 20:30.10 | Ominous | fin:ping |
| 20:30.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40263 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: |
| 20:30.26 | CIA-22 | !BugGrabber - change the handling of !Swatter detection. |
| 20:30.26 | CIA-22 | - pop up a dialog box asking the user to choose between Swatter and BugGrabber. |
| 20:30.30 | wereHamster | FuBar doesn't like my resolution (1920x1200) and is only over half of my screen width |
| 20:30.45 | ckknight | wereHamster: so drag it so it's larger. |
| 20:30.47 | Kemayo | ckknight: Idea for PerformanceFu... show how much memory an addon has gained since the last gc? |
| 20:30.57 | ckknight | GCs don't happen anymore |
| 20:31.27 | NightHawkTheSane | well, keeping track of memory increase since login or whatever would be good too. |
| 20:31.37 | Thorgard^2 | wereHamster, you can drag the corner of the bar to make it wider. |
| 20:31.43 | Kemayo | PerformanceFu can still force one, though, no? |
| 20:32.02 | wereHamster | can I have it automatically adjust the size to the whole screen width? |
| 20:32.12 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: no |
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| 20:35.20 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: yes but unless you completely disable the incremental GC then that statistic is perty useless |
| 20:36.55 | zanthor | Zaos, you mentioned a wow performance profile from nvidia, do you know where I find that on Vista? |
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| 20:40.54 | sag_ich_nicht | zanthor: don't bother, it should be autoused on load of WoW, and it just says "use global driver options" :P |
| 20:40.57 | Kaydeethree | hm... the only configuration modes pitbull is letting me use in a raid is none and party. /confused |
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| 20:42.01 | zanthor | meh |
| 20:42.17 | Kaydeethree | oh, and antiarc: thank you. I can now shrink the omen window much smaller |
| 20:42.33 | Antiarc | :) |
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| 20:47.28 | ckknight | Kemayo: v--- |
| 20:47.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40264 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - show a per-addon memory difference between now and last full GC. |
| 20:50.04 | Soulless | arcanums dead (again), is there a similer ace mod? i know henge was working up to it before but it was incomplete when i used it previously |
| 20:50.31 | Soulless | a la necrosis for mages or other classes |
| 20:50.48 | Ominous | ckknight: the passValue dosent seem to be being passed to the hidden function in groups |
| 20:50.55 | Kaydeethree | cryolysis is what I still use |
| 20:50.58 | Ominous | as in type = 'group' as options |
| 20:51.03 | ckknight | Ominous: should be... |
| 20:51.16 | Soulless | Kaydeethree: that was buggy for me a few versions ago, but i'll check it out |
| 20:51.22 | ckknight | also, you don't say what implementation you're using |
| 20:51.23 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
| 20:51.25 | Ominous | well its not, i get nil error with exactly the same table as i use ona toggle and it works there |
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| 20:52.18 | Kemayo | ckknight: Awesome, thanks. |
| 20:55.12 | ulic | ckknight: I only see an option in PitBull for ComboPoints, and doesn't see any options for the numerical text |
| 20:55.37 | ckknight | I do, ulic |
| 20:55.42 | ckknight | Combo text |
| 20:56.02 | ulic | as it's own module on the main menu? |
| 20:56.20 | ulic | well main as in Target menu |
| 20:56.28 | ckknight | under "Texts" |
| 20:57.24 | ulic | I see ComboPoints->Enable,Texture,Side, I haven't updated since yesterday I think maybe day before at the lastest. |
| 20:58.46 | ulic | am I looking the right place? |
| 21:01.41 | ckknight | no |
| 21:01.42 | ckknight | you're not |
| 21:01.51 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:01.52 | ckknight | update! |
| 21:01.53 | ckknight | gah |
| 21:01.55 | ckknight | I changed it all |
| 21:02.26 | ulic | I just grabbed the lastest from files, lemme have another look |
| 21:03.09 | ulic | even looking in combopoints.lua I don't see options for text |
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| 21:05.10 | ulic | is it part of the ABF layout maybe, lemme look there |
| 21:05.15 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40265 10VanasKoS/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:05.15 | CIA-22 | VanasKoS: - added a context menu to the last seen list |
| 21:05.16 | CIA-22 | - added a show only my entries option for the default lists (player kos, guild kos, hatelist, nicelist) |
| 21:05.16 | cladhaire | 8-Ball says: "My sources say no." |
| 21:05.38 | ulic | curse you sources! |
| 21:05.57 | Funkeh` | ckknight: still getting 100 billion menus from frames, which modules i have disabled |
| 21:06.13 | Funkeh` | disabled threat module for example and egtting the threat menu on frames |
| 21:06.37 | Soulless | gmail got removed for infringment no? |
| 21:06.47 | trh_ | gmail got renamed a while ago |
| 21:06.49 | Soulless | what can i use now? |
| 21:06.52 | trh_ | postman or sth |
| 21:06.52 | ckknight | Funkeh`: no you're not. |
| 21:07.02 | Soulless | trh_: which do you use |
| 21:07.04 | Funkeh` | ckknight: orly |
| 21:07.05 | ckknight | Funkeh`: you're getting Threat text, which is completely distinct |
| 21:07.10 | ckknight | which I already told you |
| 21:07.20 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i was using that as an example |
| 21:07.28 | trh_ | Soulless: postal at the moment, but i really miss the mass mail tab, so i might go back to ct_mailmod :( |
| 21:07.29 | Funkeh` | ckknight: im getting every menu of every disabled module |
| 21:07.31 | ckknight | the texts are all distinct from bars. |
| 21:07.35 | Funkeh` | ckknight: which i previously was not |
| 21:07.46 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i liked the way it was before |
| 21:07.49 | ckknight | which has been the case for a long time. |
| 21:07.56 | Funkeh` | not it has not :) |
| 21:07.58 | ckknight | well you don't get what you like, ten. |
| 21:08.04 | ckknight | then* |
| 21:08.05 | Funkeh` | ill screenshot it |
| 21:08.09 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:08.31 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40266 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fix up broadcasting, please test funkeh |
| 21:09.30 | ulic | ckknight: I found it, nice changes to the menu structure |
| 21:09.47 | ckknight | I thought so |
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| 21:13.25 | Peoii | ckknight: So I got some time to play around trying to reproduce that crashing bug. It happens so randomly at different times that I can't narrow down the cause, but I can say that the last rev before my crashes started (r39408.1046) is rock solid (stepped back to it to test out, no crashes what so ever) |
| 21:13.43 | Peoii | 80% of the time it happens when I'm leaving a battleground though. |
| 21:13.52 | ckknight | hrm... |
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| 21:14.16 | ckknight | potentially it's trying to do a double-free... |
| 21:14.16 | ckknight | but that should be handled... |
| 21:15.03 | binder | anyone know if there's a drdamage theorycraft mod that works for melee? |
| 21:15.08 | Peoii | Sorry to keep bringing this up, I just am trying to give ya as much information to work with as I can, and now that I've spoken with a few others experiencing the same thing, it's becoming something of a mission for me to try to narrow it down. |
| 21:18.56 | Awaa | Hm, are Improved Retribution Aura bugged atm? seems it doesnt apply extra damage |
| 21:19.23 | Arrowmaster | binder: no melee version that i know of |
| 21:19.37 | Ominous | ckknight: sorry i am lying, the value is passed normally but when i mouseover the group the hidden function is called but the value isnt parsed so i get a nil error, will pastey code |
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| 21:20.27 | hypetech | anybody willing to talk to me in a PM for just a sec to help me with some basic understanding of an event function? |
| 21:20.42 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: VanasKoS is parsing tables to AceComm/CTL instead of strings sometimes, i'll give you a stacktrace it happens nextime D: |
| 21:20.54 | Thorgard^2 | What's a good mail mod? |
| 21:21.02 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: would be nice =) |
| 21:21.12 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: sure |
| 21:22.05 | kebinusan | Thorgard^2: Postal, Bulkmail |
| 21:22.07 | kebinusan | both are good |
| 21:22.20 | Thorgard^2 | kebinusan, a'right, thanks. |
| 21:22.54 | Ominous | http://ace.pastey.net/56995 |
| 21:22.59 | Ominous | ckknight: ^^ |
| 21:23.44 | trh_ | damn.. why it must be RGB and not RYB ;) |
| 21:24.18 | ckknight | odd |
| 21:24.20 | ckknight | don't know about that |
| 21:24.37 | ckknight | trh_: because RGB is how light works. CMYK is how paint works |
| 21:24.44 | Cartass | CMYK? |
| 21:24.52 | ckknight | Cyan-Magenta-Yellow-Black |
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| 21:25.03 | trh_ | ckknight: i know.. but i did ffff00 to get orange... because i was confused |
| 21:25.05 | Ominous | K = black? |
| 21:25.18 | ckknight | trh_: that's yellow, orange is ff7f00 |
| 21:25.21 | ckknight | Ominous: yep. |
| 21:25.27 | ckknight | Ominous: since B is Blue |
| 21:25.27 | Cartas | I guess B = Blue, Ominous. |
| 21:25.29 | Cartas | :P |
| 21:25.31 | Ominous | ah |
| 21:25.36 | trh_ | ckknight: i know now.. don't know why i thought of ffff00 :/ |
| 21:27.58 | trh_ | ... always hated colors and painting.. when they asked in elementary school to paint a nice house with garden and other kids painted like hell i always drew some kind of quick-and-dirty house built out of strokes and i was done :) |
| 21:29.29 | Ominous | art = devils subject |
| 21:30.56 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40267 10VanasKoS/modules/LastSeenList.lua: VanasKoS: colors for the masses |
| 21:31.48 | sedatedChipmunk | K actually isn't Black |
| 21:31.51 | sedatedChipmunk | K = key |
| 21:32.23 | hyperChipmunk | mornin' >8P |
| 21:32.29 | nevcairiel | mornin |
| 21:32.36 | Gngsk | greets |
| 21:32.42 | hyperChipmunk | i had an idea last night |
| 21:32.52 | Gngsk | same |
| 21:32.58 | hyperChipmunk | I think I can do take selected |
| 21:33.03 | Gngsk | splendid |
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| 21:33.14 | Gngsk | I was thinking you should remove the ugly ass MailFrame |
| 21:33.17 | nevcairiel | i have too many ideas, and never enough time to do all of them :( |
| 21:33.21 | Thorgard^2 | Yeah! |
| 21:33.30 | Thorgard^2 | hyperChipmunk, kill the old mail frame. ;P |
| 21:33.56 | NightHawkTheSane | if he killed the default mail frame he'd need to implement more robust mail sending and receiving. |
| 21:33.59 | hyperChipmunk | since the TTL is taken to like the 10th decimal, and doesn't get updated except on CheckInbox() |
| 21:34.02 | NightHawkTheSane | which he should, mind, but i'm just saying. |
| 21:34.12 | hyperChipmunk | yea; I don't handle anything but items =\ |
| 21:34.34 | hyperChipmunk | i can probably use TTL as a unique identifier |
| 21:34.39 | NightHawkTheSane | we demand full on wowmutt. or wowpine, or something. |
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| 21:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 21:35.10 | kenlyric | you would need a place to, say, type in the name of your recipient :) |
| 21:35.32 | Gngsk | he's already coded a bunch of static popups, could use those |
| 21:35.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea; I don't think a dewdrop popout would be very convenient |
| 21:36.17 | hyperChipmunk | but for everything else, i can always just use a button to pop out the regular mailframe |
| 21:36.25 | Firik | lua> print "a" |
| 21:36.26 | cladhaire | Firik:lua> a |
| 21:36.26 | hyperChipmunk | but I'm concerned about letters |
| 21:36.30 | Thorgard^2 | hyperChipmunk, slap in an option to hide the default mailbox frame. ;P |
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| 21:36.44 | Thorgard^2 | Would be nice for AH mules. |
| 21:37.08 | hyperChipmunk | maybe after everything works =P |
| 21:37.09 | Firik | lua> local a = {1,2,3}; print(unpack(a)); |
| 21:37.09 | cladhaire | Firik:lua> 1, 2, 3 |
| 21:37.20 | Firik | hmmm |
| 21:37.20 | hyperChipmunk | k that's pretty annoying |
| 21:37.41 | Antiarc | ckknight: Is there a reason that printing the table passed to a RegisterParserEvent handler would show as {}, but actually have data in it? |
| 21:37.43 | hyperChipmunk | use a friggin' interpreter yo |
| 21:37.46 | Antiarc | Is there an iterator I need to be using? |
| 21:37.56 | hyperChipmunk | or take it to /tells |
| 21:38.24 | ckknight | Antiarc: :PrintLiteral with AceConsole? |
| 21:38.30 | Firik | srry hyperChipmunk only wanted to test that quickly |
| 21:38.46 | Antiarc | ckknight: It's printing {} |
| 21:38.53 | ckknight | Antiarc: it's basically a read-only proxy, its metatable's __index would be proper |
| 21:39.06 | ckknight | Antiarc: do me a favor: see if getmetatable(info).__raw exists. |
| 21:39.17 | Antiarc | Will do |
| 21:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | "Is this a wretched demi-bee asleep upon my knee, some freak from a menagerie? NO! It's Eric the half-a-bee!" |
| 21:39.56 | Antiarc | All mana gains in my party from Vamp Touch are being credited to me by Parser3-0 |
| 21:39.58 | Antiarc | Not sure why |
| 21:40.21 | Antiarc | It does exist |
| 21:40.50 | Antiarc | Looks like sourceName is me as the caster of the spell? |
| 21:40.59 | Antiarc | and recipientName is the person that gained the mana |
| 21:41.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40268 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: .DogTag-1.0 - add tags AFKTime and OfflineTime, return either blank or a time in the format "m:ss" or "h:mm:ss" |
| 21:41.03 | Antiarc | That makes sense. |
| 21:41.10 | ckknight | Antiarc: if __raw exists, then your AceConsole is out of date. |
| 21:41.15 | Antiarc | Aha, ok. |
| 21:41.28 | ckknight | srsly, guy, keep up to date. |
| 21:41.29 | Firik | nice tags ckknight :) |
| 21:41.36 | Soulless | whats this grey bar at the bottom of my fubar now? |
| 21:41.45 | ckknight | figured people wanted that ;-), Firik |
| 21:42.06 | Soulless | and is there a way to make fubar the full width of the screen again? |
| 21:42.06 | Firik | can't you make a way that addons can register their own tags? |
| 21:42.13 | xt | ckknight: would it be possible to get DPS/HPS tags? lol |
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| 21:42.41 | Firik | if addons can register their own tags violation could register the dps/hps tags f.e. |
| 21:42.44 | Kalman| | Antiarc: That's intended threat behavior, isn't it, on VT? |
| 21:42.59 | ckknight | xt: no, that would require DogTag to be checking the combat log and such, so out of scope |
| 21:43.03 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I'm pretty sure that VT gains are credited to the person that gets the gain |
| 21:43.09 | Antiarc | VE heals are credited to the priest |
| 21:43.13 | ckknight | xt: unless a library comes along that provides easy access to that data (like how Threat has) |
| 21:43.22 | xt | yeh, was thinking the same |
| 21:43.24 | Kalman| | Antiarc: I'd expect VT gains to be credited to the priest as well, tbh. |
| 21:43.26 | Gnarfoz | maybe violation could expose those values? ^^ |
| 21:43.27 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40269 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/ShadeOfAran: reduce blizzard timer by 4 seconds |
| 21:43.48 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: imho, there should be a library like Threat-1.0 that keeps track of Damage/Healing/etc. |
| 21:43.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah, probably :> |
| 21:43.57 | ckknight | and comm with other players |
| 21:44.07 | ckknight | and Violation/Assessment could use it |
| 21:44.14 | Antiarc | Kalman|: "Jinks gains 33 mana from Vampiric Touch" |
| 21:44.15 | ckknight | and inevitably, PitBull |
| 21:44.20 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:44.37 | Firik | how hard would it be to allow other addons to register tags with dogtag? |
| 21:44.38 | Gngsk | Deeps-1.0 |
| 21:44.39 | Antiarc | I'm not sure how else to explain the huge threat inflations for shadow priests |
| 21:44.52 | ckknight | Firik: not gonna have it, would rather it be centralized. |
| 21:45.10 | kenlyric | VT threat is not credited to the priest. |
| 21:45.17 | kenlyric | the mana portion (assuming there is any. |
| 21:45.22 | Kalman| | "6/6 21:03:18.203 Vycius gains 33 Mana from Zhivago 's Vampiric Touch." |
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| 21:45.49 | trh_ | eye for an eye... i definitly love it if my someone in my guild reports a ganker to me and i ask the guilie to kill him and he does :) |
| 21:46.04 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Possibly a combat log mod? |
| 21:46.07 | Firik | ckknight what's up with this funny code? if date("%Y%m%d") < "20070525" then Tags.MaxMana = "MaxMP" end |
| 21:46.11 | Saint-N | boom shaka laka. boom shaka. laka. laka. boom. |
| 21:46.13 | Kalman| | That's taken from /combatlog. |
| 21:46.19 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 21:46.20 | nevcairiel | the information is there |
| 21:46.26 | BankZ | Whos the best person to talk to about bugs in closetgnome bugs? |
| 21:46.29 | nevcairiel | but i still think, that it gets creditet to the person receiving |
| 21:46.32 | ckknight | Firik: backwards compatiblity, time-bombed |
| 21:46.37 | nevcairiel | BankZ: vhaarr |
| 21:46.39 | Cryect | Kalman|: thats SWStats at work :-p |
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| 21:46.48 | Kalman| | Cryect: I don't have SWS installed. :p |
| 21:46.55 | Kalman| | Why would I? I have Recount! :p |
| 21:46.57 | Cryect | you don't have SWS Fix Logs? |
| 21:47.04 | Cryect | "Zhivago 's Vampiric Touch." |
| 21:47.07 | Kalman| | Not unless it ninja-installed itself. |
| 21:47.12 | Cryect | see the space between the name and the 's |
| 21:47.17 | Cryect | thats what Fix Logs does >_> |
| 21:47.31 | Kalman| | Oh, wait. |
| 21:47.34 | Kalman| | That's not my log. |
| 21:47.39 | Kalman| | Blame SWS, Jan does run it. |
| 21:47.40 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:47.44 | Cryect | haha |
| 21:47.46 | kenlyric | why would anyone have SWS fix logs if you don't have SWS? |
| 21:47.49 | NightHawkTheSane | er, isn't parser3 doing some fixing of log strings too? |
| 21:48.01 | nevcairiel | parser does it too |
| 21:48.02 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:48.10 | Cryect | but parser doesn't actually change arg1 does it? |
| 21:48.27 | Cryect | I mean SWS actually changes what every other addon sees and is written to your combatlog file |
| 21:48.39 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: it doesn't, for political reasons |
| 21:48.45 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: the code is commented out |
| 21:48.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: ahh, yeah, I only saw the discussion, wasn't sure what happened as a result. |
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| 21:49.41 | nevcairiel | fix logstrings isnt really useful on english clients anyway |
| 21:49.42 | Tupsi | cellular devs/users here? |
| 21:49.57 | ckknight | nevcairiel: there are a few cases |
| 21:50.01 | Cryect | what was the point exactly? |
| 21:50.04 | nevcairiel | veeeery rare |
| 21:50.06 | Kalman| | Antiarc: FWIW, Kenco has VT as generating threat to the spriest. Like his coding or not, his threat testing has generally been accurate (where he's tested; if he didn't test, like curses, it isn't.) |
| 21:50.37 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I'll review it, but my own tests at the moment are showing that my model seems to be accurate |
| 21:50.37 | Dustwhisper | how do you accurately calculate/test threat though |
| 21:50.51 | Cryect | Dustwhisper: in a controlled situation |
| 21:51.01 | hyperChipmunk | damage is the one good known threat |
| 21:51.06 | Cryect | Its easier to test threat than it is to test the effect of gravity on objects ;) |
| 21:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | usually with a very low damage melee attack |
| 21:51.11 | Kalman| | Antiarc: If you need an spriest to test with, I can copy over to test. |
| 21:51.16 | Kalman| | And I guess install it too. |
| 21:51.22 | hyperChipmunk | so you do something, and you see how many punches it takes to hit 110% of it |
| 21:51.27 | Kalman| | Or, wait, you play EU, don't you. |
| 21:51.39 | kenlyric | I'm looking now |
| 21:51.47 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I'm using my spriest at the moment :) |
| 21:51.49 | Antiarc | Nah, US |
| 21:52.08 | hyperChipmunk | or if you have 350 skill h2h like me, you use level 1 wingclips =P |
| 21:52.42 | Saint-N | wing clips |
| 21:52.51 | Saint-N | that sounds like gay-class abilities |
| 21:53.02 | Saint-N | i didnt realize you liked boys hyper ;) |
| 21:53.09 | ulic | ckknight: ping |
| 21:53.40 | Saint-N | as a note all classes are gay classes if it's not a facemelter heh |
| 21:53.53 | ckknight | ulic: pong |
| 21:53.57 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Heh, didn't know you had one. |
| 21:54.01 | kenlyric | my combat log notes the source of the mana regen properly. |
| 21:54.11 | Dustwhisper | so where might i find some documentation on hooking into Auctions? Can you easily do it with Ace2 hook etc? Aye im fresh |
| 21:54.12 | Antiarc | Yeah, still 60, but it works |
| 21:54.30 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 21:54.44 | Gnarfoz | pitbull changed stuff again xD |
| 21:54.48 | Gnarfoz | *reconfigure* |
| 21:54.50 | ulic | ckknight: some of the "Text" items, once you disable them, they seem to disappear and I can't find a way to enable them |
| 21:54.54 | Saint-N | he added globalness! |
| 21:55.01 | ckknight | ulic: ah, yea, working on that |
| 21:55.02 | Saint-N | configure once effect all! |
| 21:55.13 | ckknight | Saint-N: currently broken with my new menu settings :-P |
| 21:55.18 | ckknight | will fix soonish |
| 21:55.20 | Saint-N | damn you! |
| 21:55.23 | ulic | any temp in-game hack to get em back, specifically Target:Health :P |
| 21:55.27 | Saint-N | heh im at work so it doesnt effect me |
| 21:55.41 | Saint-N | ya know what would be nice |
| 21:55.57 | ckknight | ulic: /script PitBull.ABF.db.profile.target = nil; ReloadUI() |
| 21:56.00 | Saint-N | if the pitbull menu didnt disappear when you take to long reading or hover off the frame |
| 21:56.08 | Saint-N | you know like make it a real window ;) |
| 21:56.09 | ckknight | nah, not gonna happen |
| 21:56.21 | Saint-N | like the minimpa button is supposed to be |
| 21:56.23 | Saint-N | map |
| 21:56.25 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 21:56.29 | Saint-N | i can see the others autofading |
| 21:56.33 | sag_ich_nicht | is there an addon for playing an alert sound if a specific person on your flist comes online/goes offline? D: |
| 21:56.39 | Saint-N | but the minimap button is there for p[reciecly that reason |
| 21:56.47 | Saint-N | wierdo |
| 21:56.55 | Saint-N | precisely |
| 21:57.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i dunno how often i've cursed the inability to rip off a dewdrop menu |
| 21:57.13 | hyperChipmunk | EBBs |
| 21:57.28 | NightHawkTheSane | course in most cases, cant you just use waterfall/niagara |
| 21:57.31 | Antiarc | Huh, there's something else going on |
| 21:57.39 | Antiarc | I'm reading 2k TPS, and that's not quite right ;) |
| 21:57.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea, sometimes |
| 21:57.48 | Saint-N | ckknight: for the most part, atm i cant remember if pitbull works right in niagara though |
| 21:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | but not allatime |
| 21:57.57 | Saint-N | err nighthawk |
| 21:58.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont use pitbull, so i've no idea. Not sure why it wouldn't though |
| 21:58.31 | ulic | ckknight: also, I liked when the case bar was the full length, not shorted by portrait, but I'll get over it |
| 21:58.32 | Saint-N | heh then again i wish that quartz had an override key to move shit |
| 21:58.48 | Saint-N | so i wouldnt have to open niagara find the option unlock it then move then lock then close it all back down |
| 21:58.53 | ckknight | ulic: yea, I don't use portraits, and with the arbitrary bar placement, there's no real way to account |
| 21:59.16 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: lots of waterfall stuff just ends up with a single button called Config that just opens the dewdrop up from the root |
| 21:59.19 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Dunno. Is that VE+VT or VT only, and how many in your party? |
| 21:59.24 | Saint-N | NightHawkTheSane: i think it just doesnt get found properly, but im thinking back in the early stages like i said not sure if it shows up properly there now |
| 21:59.44 | hyperChipmunk | which is basically the same as doing it from the fubar plugin |
| 21:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | but with a bigger button |
| 21:59.48 | trh_ | do we have a addon that blocks incoming group invites unless i either wrote the person inviting me, or he/she is in guild and/or friendslist? |
| 21:59.50 | Saint-N | but having to call up another addon to acess a static no fading menu for another addon seems a tad retarded ;) |
| 21:59.52 | Antiarc | Hahahah, there it is. VT, under some circumstances, is adding 1400 threat per tick for me |
| 21:59.54 | hyperChipmunk | EBBs is a good example |
| 21:59.54 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: ahh, yeah ive seen that problem. |
| 22:00.01 | Kalman| | Antiarc: oO? |
| 22:00.07 | trh_ | fucking spammers invite now people to spam in /Ra |
| 22:00.13 | Antiarc | I probably used a multiplier rather than a divisor somewhere |
| 22:00.16 | Antiarc | I'll track it down :) |
| 22:00.26 | Kalman| | That'd explain my 3k TPS numbers! |
| 22:00.29 | hyperChipmunk | psh, they're like the same thing! |
| 22:00.38 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 22:00.42 | Saint-N | Antiarc: thats the single damage hit for all 3 seconds ;) |
| 22:00.54 | Saint-N | without modifiers |
| 22:00.57 | NightHawkTheSane | multiplication and division are totally the same thing. *nods* |
| 22:01.07 | ckknight | well, duh |
| 22:01.12 | ckknight | 6 * 1 = 6 / 1 |
| 22:01.19 | ckknight | nubs |
| 22:01.23 | Saint-N | 0 * 1 == 0 / 1 |
| 22:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | see, same thing! |
| 22:01.40 | Saint-N | exactly the same ;) |
| 22:02.27 | Antiarc | No, nevermind, that was a problem in a change I just made |
| 22:02.28 | Antiarc | Pooh. |
| 22:02.49 | trh_ | to add some fun: 6 << 1 = 6 * 2 :) |
| 22:03.01 | Saint-N | Antiarc: if its grabbing the initial spell total damage for all 3 seconds and then adding that each tick..... |
| 22:03.10 | Saint-N | it would make sense |
| 22:03.40 | BankZ | Which bag addon do you guys like the best? ObeBag? |
| 22:03.55 | Antiarc | I used max(manaDeficit, manaGained) rather than min(manaDeficit, manaGained) |
| 22:03.58 | Saint-N | arkinventory |
| 22:04.04 | Antiarc | So it was adding my mana pool delta as threat :P |
| 22:04.06 | trh_ | i use OneBank |
| 22:04.10 | Saint-N | hah |
| 22:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I like baggins |
| 22:04.36 | BankZ | arkinventory is a nice bag addon? |
| 22:04.42 | durcyn | bagnon. |
| 22:04.45 | durcyn | there is only bagnon. |
| 22:04.54 | Codayus | Baggins |
| 22:04.56 | NightHawkTheSane | bagnon cant sort my bags. :( |
| 22:05.00 | Chompers | arkinv, sanity bags when Antiarc gets some free time ;P |
| 22:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, sanity bags looks hot, but needs work. |
| 22:06.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40270 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix always options being disabled. |
| 22:06.24 | Kalman| | Antiarc: That'd explain why it always seemed to spike when I was shadowfiending - everyone else'd be low mana by that point too. |
| 22:06.32 | ckknight | ulic: okay, now you'll be able to revive disabled texts. |
| 22:06.49 | Antiarc | Kalman|: That wasn't in the trunk codebase - I just added it :/ |
| 22:06.56 | Antiarc | So that can't explain your behavior, unfortunately. |
| 22:07.03 | ulic | w00h00 |
| 22:07.16 | Kalman| | Bah. |
| 22:07.21 | Peoii | ugh, oh how I wish I could run this thru a debugger so I could watch the stacks as a crash happens :/ |
| 22:07.35 | Peoii | It'd make narrowing this down sooo much easier. |
| 22:08.07 | BankZ | I really like Autobar, but whoever designed its config util was smoking something |
| 22:08.26 | Antiarc | Are there any other spells that can cause mana gain from another player source? |
| 22:08.34 | Antiarc | Judgment of Wisdom? |
| 22:08.46 | hypetech | does anybody know what event fires when polymorph fades from a mob? |
| 22:08.56 | Codayus | Symbol of Hope? |
| 22:09.02 | Antiarc | Ooh, good one. |
| 22:09.07 | hyperChipmunk | HOPE! |
| 22:09.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: blessing of wisdom, judgement i believe is credited to the player who triggered it, like judgemenet of light |
| 22:09.45 | Peoii | Antiarc: Druid T3 2/8 set bonus proc. |
| 22:09.45 | NightHawkTheSane | mana spring/tide also, i believe |
| 22:09.48 | Codayus | Mana regen.... Totems count? |
| 22:09.52 | Antiarc | Blessing of Wisdom works like mp5 - no combatl og message |
| 22:10.07 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 22:10.09 | hyperChipmunk | there's a log |
| 22:10.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: er, really? I could have sworn i see combat log messages for Bow. |
| 22:10.11 | Codayus | Spellsurge? |
| 22:10.18 | hyperChipmunk | there's definitely a log |
| 22:10.20 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, was changed a bit ago |
| 22:10.37 | Antiarc | I have a paladin inbound so I'll test it |
| 22:10.43 | hyperChipmunk | i turned of one of my spell filters because it was so spammy |
| 22:10.45 | ckknight | nope, no combat message. |
| 22:10.52 | ckknight | dunno, though |
| 22:10.58 | ckknight | maybe it's just not showing |
| 22:11.05 | Antiarc | I'll see in a bit |
| 22:11.32 | Codayus | Spellsurge would be a mana gain from another player though, yes? |
| 22:11.40 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: in omen how can i made a bar go back to using the texture set for all bars instead of that single bar |
| 22:12.14 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Right click, Use Default Texture |
| 22:12.25 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 22:12.30 | Arrowmaster | i totally didnt see that |
| 22:12.58 | Antiarc | There's no combat log message for mana gains. I have BoW on me right now. |
| 22:13.19 | hyperChipmunk | that priest one spams too |
| 22:13.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 22:13.42 | Arrowmaster | 2.1 changed BoW to effect regen instead of actually giving mana with a combat log msg |
| 22:13.58 | Codayus | Hmm, there used to be combat messages...oh, right, that kinda rings a bell. |
| 22:15.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: well, I think mana spring/tide still gives combat log messages |
| 22:15.13 | Antiarc | Ok, great. I'll hijack a shammy. |
| 22:15.26 | NightHawkTheSane | logging in to check for sure right now |
| 22:15.41 | hyperChipmunk | i think the shadowpriest thingy still spams |
| 22:15.42 | Thorgard^2 | Mana Tide gives combat log entry, yeah. |
| 22:15.44 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 22:15.46 | Codayus | If your interested in edge cases, you might check the ST trinket shamans get. |
| 22:15.50 | hyperChipmunk | maybe not |
| 22:15.55 | Thorgard^2 | So does Mana Spring. |
| 22:16.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40271 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber - when choosing between Swatter and BugGrabber, recommend BugGrabber. |
| 22:17.07 | Antiarc | VT does spam |
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| 22:17.54 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: just happened again, i'll send it to you in a query |
| 22:18.01 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no wait |
| 22:18.05 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll put it up on pastey :) |
| 22:18.11 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: even better =) |
| 22:19.39 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: http://pastey.net/57001-2nif |
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| 22:20.33 | sag_ich_nicht | that wasn't actually a stacktrace, i added some debug printing to CTL a few days ago because stacktracing the error didn't work for some reason D: |
| 22:20.44 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: which version of vanaskos do you use? |
| 22:21.10 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: there's some info in your Errors directory after crashes |
| 22:21.11 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: latest available through the wowace updater :) |
| 22:21.17 | Dustwhisper | getting started on your first mod wasn't the easiest thing in the world >_< |
| 22:21.26 | hyperChipmunk | and Logs too |
| 22:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | check out Logs/FrameXML.log |
| 22:22.53 | BankZ | Baggins a pig? |
| 22:22.58 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: it happens rarely, but it does D: |
| 22:23.06 | Gngsk | BankZ, rude and thoughtless |
| 22:23.11 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: ya.. i'm checking :) |
| 22:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 22:23.30 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40272 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: menu improvements |
| 22:25.01 | Kemayo | Does hreat estimate |
| 22:25.17 | Kemayo | Does Threat-1.0 estimate threat for people in your party not using it? |
| 22:25.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40273 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - recurse into the groups of the all units menu. |
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| 22:25.57 | ckknight | no, Kemayo |
| 22:27.10 | Dustwhisper | Can an addon auto search for a string when AH window opens and also parse out results? |
| 22:27.14 | ckknight | though that would be theoretically interesting |
| 22:27.26 | ckknight | I believe so, Dustwhisper |
| 22:28.04 | Dustwhisper | Your words lean in the direction of me having chosen a splendid first addon-project =D >_< |
| 22:28.10 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: weird.. that piece of code shouldn't fail... |
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| 22:28.41 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: well, obviously it does >.> |
| 22:28.42 | trh_ | any idea why self:SendCommMessage("GUILD", list); would yield to: http://pastey.net/57001-2nif ? |
| 22:28.52 | trh_ | list is a list with at least 1 entry |
| 22:29.49 | Ominous | trh_, you need to send a string |
| 22:29.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:27] <Dustwhisper> Can an addon auto search for a string when AH window opens and also parse out results? <--else auctioneer would not work |
| 22:30.01 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 22:30.08 | trh_ | Ominous: why? acecomm documentation says i can send anything? |
| 22:30.15 | sag_ich_nicht | auctioneer would, but bottomfeeder would require a tiny change in it's inner workings |
| 22:30.19 | Ominous | well that is what the error says |
| 22:30.27 | Ominous | Interface\AddOns\ChatThrottleLib\ChatThrottleLib.lua:456: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got table) |
| 22:30.34 | trh_ | Ominous: strange thing is, that it does sometimes work and sometimes it doesn't |
| 22:30.51 | trh_ | most of the time it seems to work, only rarely causes that error |
| 22:30.57 | Kemayo | ckknight: Does your performancefu change only show the increasing memory when you have cpu profiling on? |
| 22:31.06 | ckknight | no, always shows |
| 22:31.17 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I'm testing it with a paladin at the moment, both of us at half mana, two VT cycles, then he melees it till he pulls aggo |
| 22:31.27 | Ominous | trh_: it looks like its a char throttle lib error |
| 22:31.29 | Antiarc | So far, the model with VT as not causing aggro seems to be spot on. |
| 22:31.30 | Ominous | chat* |
| 22:31.32 | Antiarc | Err |
| 22:31.32 | Kemayo | Huh. I don't see it. |
| 22:31.42 | Antiarc | Oooh. Wait. Nevermind. |
| 22:31.54 | Antiarc | Version desynch causing that impression. Got it. |
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| 22:37.44 | sdouble | does ArkInventory have a stack items option? Instead of showing all the stacks, just one with the total number. |
| 22:37.52 | Cheads | FuBar_PerformanceFu - show a per-addon memory difference between now and last full GC.... where am I supposed to see that? |
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| 22:38.25 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r40274 10BigWigs/ (14 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 22:38.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: punch peer :P |
| 22:39.26 | peer | Please don't punch me ckknight! |
| 22:40.25 | Adirelle | crap, I have to parse dying and getting out of combat to manually clear value in TTK |
| 22:41.58 | ulic | ckknight: looks like the icons are stacking again, like class icon behind 2d |
| 22:42.11 | ckknight | 2d means nothing to me |
| 22:42.42 | xt | Kalman|: how's it going? |
| 22:42.48 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: you didn't found a way to reproduce it or sth? :/ |
| 22:43.30 | ulic | only when dead perhaps |
| 22:44.12 | Kalman| | xt: Doing Skettis summons. I've gotten more upgrades in the first three summons than in a full Kara clear last night. :/ |
| 22:44.54 | Adirelle | Antiarc: what ThreatLib.GlobalTarget is used for ? |
| 22:45.01 | xt | Kalman|: rofl |
| 22:45.03 | Adirelle | Antiarc: doesn't look like "_GLOBAL_" |
| 22:45.07 | xt | some good blues there actually |
| 22:45.17 | Kalman| | Yeah, got the offhand, and a +shadow damage ring. |
| 22:45.25 | xt | how much +shadow |
| 22:46.10 | Kalman| | 29, so not a damage upgrade, but 21 sta/11 int instead of 2 mp5 and 5 sta. |
| 22:47.37 | Saroz | which cooldown mod do you guys use |
| 22:47.52 | Kalman| | Hourglass, personally. |
| 22:47.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:42] <trh_> sag_ich_nicht: you didn't found a way to reproduce it or sth? :/ <--nope |
| 22:48.01 | sag_ich_nicht | it just happens from time to time |
| 22:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | for no apparent reason |
| 22:48.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i was sitting in IF |
| 22:48.17 | sag_ich_nicht | on the top of the house right of the bank |
| 22:48.20 | sag_ich_nicht | (lol walljump) |
| 22:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | and idling while surfing |
| 22:48.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and it popped up |
| 22:48.35 | sag_ich_nicht | happens in combat etc. too |
| 22:48.47 | sag_ich_nicht | so no, no real way to reproduce it >.> |
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| 22:49.14 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: weird.... must be something in acecomm or chatthrottlelib or some global variable they use/dont reset |
| 22:49.31 | Adirelle | looks like I'll have to found some volunteer to test KTM :/ |
| 22:49.33 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, strange |
| 22:54.21 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: try /dump message is it defined too? |
| 22:56.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Trancer: uh wait a sec. |
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| 22:56.41 | sag_ich_nicht | 06/17/07 00:56:27> (function: 093A1488) |
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| 22:59.12 | trh_ | i think that target in function ChatThrottleLib:SendAddonMessage(prio, prefix, text, chattype, target) doesn't get set to nil in rare cases... :/ |
| 22:59.35 | trh_ | which then causes self:Enqueue(prio, ("%s/%s/%s"):format(prefix, chattype, target or ""), msg) |
| 22:59.38 | trh_ | to fail |
| 23:00.07 | sag_ich_nicht | trh_: well don't tell that to me :P |
| 23:00.23 | trh_ | *looking at ckknight for some great insights* ;) |
| 23:01.08 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r40275 10Decursive/ (Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua Decursive.lua Decursive.xml): |
| 23:01.08 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 23:01.08 | CIA-22 | - BUG fix: The MUFs may be placed off-screen by default when a UI scale < 1 was used... |
| 23:01.08 | CIA-22 | - MUFs and Decursive bar position will be reset to default if found off-screen. |
| 23:01.47 | Saroz | hrrrm, Hourglass is nice |
| 23:01.49 | ckknight_ | trh_: what doesn't get set to nil? |
| 23:02.12 | trh_ | ckknight_: the parameter function ChatThrottleLib:SendAddonMessage(prio, prefix, text, chattype, target) |
| 23:02.25 | trh_ | ckknight_: target there - it seem that it is then given to the format |
| 23:02.45 | trh_ | ckknight_: and in rare cases it's a table that was given as SendCommMessage("GUILD", table) parameter |
| 23:02.58 | trh_ | ckknight_: i'm still debugging to see why it only rarely happens |
| 23:03.00 | ckknight_ | ...bad |
| 23:03.05 | ckknight_ | that shouldn't be passed there. |
| 23:03.24 | ckknight_ | AceComm does that? |
| 23:03.47 | trh_ | ckknight_: ya. i'm just calling SendCommMessage(Guild, mytable) |
| 23:04.12 | trh_ | ckknight_: http://pastey.net/57001-2nif and that's the result |
| 23:04.48 | trh_ | ckknight_: line 562 in distributedtracker.lua is the SendCommMessage("GUILD", mytable); |
| 23:05.14 | trh_ | ckknight_: but it's very rare... strange thing |
| 23:06.04 | Adirelle | Antiarc: ping ? |
| 23:06.30 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 23:06.33 | Antiarc | Just got back! |
| 23:07.05 | Adirelle | Antiarc: any way to get the list of a player threat targets, and/or target name from target hash ? |
| 23:07.31 | Antiarc | Target name from hash, no. Player targets, yes. It's, uh... |
| 23:08.13 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40276 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - properly don't pass the person argument. |
| 23:09.00 | ckknight_ | Peoii: I believe I know why I wasn't getting the errors before |
| 23:09.18 | Peoii | ckknight_: oh? |
| 23:09.23 | ckknight_ | Peoii: I did all my testing in 2.1.2 PTR |
| 23:09.29 | ckknight_ | which fixed the crashing. |
| 23:09.33 | Peoii | lol |
| 23:09.35 | hyperChipmunk | is there a nice function for changing copper to gsc format? |
| 23:09.41 | Adirelle | Antiarc: sry for annoying, I just realized I could do without, though I somehow duplicate targetThreats |
| 23:09.56 | ckknight_ | Peoii: so, I'm not gonna be looking any more into it, since 2.1.2 will likely come in 1-2 weeks |
| 23:10.27 | Peoii | ckknight_: So for stable, just stick with the rev I'm using atm, and update once 2.1.2 hits? |
| 23:10.44 | ckknight_ | right. |
| 23:10.48 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r40277 10BigWigs/TheEye/ (Alar.lua Kaelthas.lua): |
| 23:10.48 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 23:10.48 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.27 | Adirelle | Antiarc: after some tries to make something reset-sensitive, I'm going back to KISS |
| 23:11.42 | Antiarc | Hehe |
| 23:11.48 | Antiarc | Heh, no problem |
| 23:12.05 | Adirelle | but I guess it may gives weird number sometimes :/ |
| 23:12.14 | Adirelle | I mean from KTM point of view |
| 23:12.30 | Adirelle | have yet to find a cotester though |
| 23:13.15 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r40278 10BunchOfBars/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:13.15 | CIA-22 | BunchOfBars: |
| 23:13.15 | CIA-22 | - added "Earth Shield" |
| 23:13.15 | CIA-22 | - now posible to change the order/grouping and filtering |
| 23:13.15 | CIA-22 | - fixed a bug in the update message thingy |
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| 23:13.57 | ckknight | what's BunchOfBars? |
| 23:14.03 | Firik | http://wowace.com/wiki/BunchOfBars |
| 23:14.11 | ckknight | Peoii: what revision you using? |
| 23:14.15 | Firik | something I'm working on |
| 23:14.16 | NightHawkTheSane | im going to go on a limb and say.. a bunch of bars. |
| 23:15.03 | ckknight | Peoii: gonna put in a warning |
| 23:15.18 | Peoii | I'm using r39408 |
| 23:15.21 | Peoii | and it's stable. |
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| 23:15.51 | Firik | your in the credits ckknight :P |
| 23:16.05 | ckknight | fun |
| 23:16.25 | Firik | stole some of your pitbull code |
| 23:17.09 | Saroz | ninja |
| 23:23.14 | trh_ | http://supuzzle.com/ hehe.. i wonder who solves it first without cheating ;) |
| 23:23.43 | JoshBorke | it's not possible in 2 dimensions |
| 23:24.00 | trh_ | oh.. don't ruin the fun for people that didn't had graph theory ;) |
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| 23:24.36 | ckknight | trh_: is it possible? |
| 23:24.42 | trh_ | ckknight: not without cheating |
| 23:24.45 | ckknight | yea, doesn't seem possible |
| 23:25.03 | trh_ | ckknight: you can right-click while painting through a house and the line will go through the house |
| 23:25.12 | trh_ | ckknight: but that's a weakness of the script |
| 23:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | thats an old puzzle |
| 23:26.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i've seen a few variations of it. |
| 23:26.54 | Mikk | Without cheating, if you're any good, you'll end up with just ONE line that isn't conneted. |
| 23:27.06 | Mikk | But that's as far as 2d will take you |
| 23:27.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Now, you want a fun puzzle.. here's one.. http://www.drunkmenworkhere.org/129 |
| 23:27.31 | Gnarfoz | <@ckknight_> Peoii: so, I'm not gonna be looking any more into it, since 2.1.2 will likely come in 1-2 weeks <-- 2.1.2 should be wednesday's arena season 2 patch, hopefully |
| 23:28.07 | ckknight | oh, pants |
| 23:28.24 | trh_ | ha.. found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuratowski%27s_theorem |
| 23:28.32 | trh_ | that's the theorem to that game :) |
| 23:29.17 | Firik | ckknight: I'm not registered so on this server so: yes ofc it will be GNU as well |
| 23:29.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40279 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add in a warning that PitBull crashes in raids until WoW 2.1.2. Recommend reversion to r39408 until said time. |
| 23:29.41 | JoshBorke | http://www.cut-the-knot.org/do_you_know/3Utilities.shtml <-- better link :P |
| 23:30.31 | trh_ | JoshBorke: hehe.. basically the same.. :) |
| 23:30.36 | Hjalte | ckknight, is that only if you use pitbull raid frames or just using pitbull? |
| 23:30.50 | ckknight | raid or party |
| 23:30.57 | JoshBorke | trh_: indeed, actually linked from your's :D |
| 23:31.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40280 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change warning to say raids or parties |
| 23:31.18 | ckknight | Hjalte: kinda lame |
| 23:31.41 | trh_ | JoshBorke: hehe.. well.. i looked the name of the setence (because i forgot it) up in the german wikipedia and searched only in the english wikipedia to get a english decsription :) |
| 23:32.01 | abyssichate | ckknight: did you modify anything from r40274 that makes the game crash? |
| 23:32.34 | ckknight | no, r39409 |
| 23:32.40 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r40281 10BunchOfBars/ (Hots/Hots.lua LICENSE.txt): BunchOfBars: - forgot Arcane Brilliance |
| 23:32.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:32.55 | ckknight | or whatever is post-r39408 |
| 23:32.55 | abyssichate | I am using that, r40274, and never got a crash :s |
| 23:33.02 | JoshBorke | trh: lol |
| 23:33.03 | ckknight | yea, it's not consistent. |
| 23:33.06 | Funkeh` | so you don't need that warning really |
| 23:33.09 | Funkeh` | since its after that commit |
| 23:33.11 | abyssichate | alright |
| 23:33.19 | Funkeh` | i think 'if you see this message you are good to go' sounds better |
| 23:33.26 | ckknight | Funkeh`: the warning is still there. |
| 23:33.29 | ckknight | the bug* |
| 23:33.36 | Funkeh` | considering if they see it, they definately have the latest :p |
| 23:33.41 | ckknight | which is bad. |
| 23:33.45 | ckknight | since the bug is still there. |
| 23:33.46 | abyssichate | oh well, it'll last only a few days |
| 23:33.46 | Funkeh` | true |
| 23:33.49 | ckknight | until WoW 2.1.2 |
| 23:34.26 | Funkeh` | i mean 'Recommend reversion to r39408 until said time.' if they see the message they alreayd have that revision so no need to recommend it :p |
| 23:34.44 | ckknight | no, they don't |
| 23:34.55 | Peoii | Funkeh`: You can log in with the latest revision |
| 23:34.59 | ckknight | they have r40280, which has the bug. |
| 23:35.05 | Peoii | But when you're in a BG/etc, you explode. |
| 23:35.12 | Peoii | Sometimes.. |
| 23:35.18 | ckknight | yes, not consistently |
| 23:35.19 | Funkeh` | that was always there |
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| 23:35.26 | Funkeh` | was does that have to do wiht pitbull revision |
| 23:35.47 | trh_ | uh.. why do they reenable pitchlimit in 2.2? =) |
| 23:35.59 | Funkeh` | GMs got sad |
| 23:36.07 | Kemayo | ckknight: The per-addon increasing memory only shows when you have cpu profiling enabled. |
| 23:36.15 | ckknight | Kemayo: lemme check |
| 23:36.30 | trh_ | Funkeh`: no complaints from users seeing others make loopings? ;) |
| 23:36.38 | Funkeh` | pre addon increasing memory? |
| 23:36.40 | Funkeh` | givf |
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| 23:37.05 | Funkeh` | per* |
| 23:38.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40282 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - change number of columns in the tooltip. |
| 23:38.40 | ckknight | fixed |
| 23:39.14 | trh_ | b) Any ENABLED AddOn marked as "## IsGenericLoadManager: true" is automatically added to the LoadManagers: list for ALL enabled AddOns before they're evaluated for load. |
| 23:39.17 | trh_ | that's nice |
| 23:39.55 | ckknight | link? |
| 23:39.56 | Mikk | errrr whoa? |
| 23:40.00 | trh_ | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 23:40.12 | trh_ | oh fuck |
| 23:40.21 | trh_ | it's just something the green poster imagined |
| 23:40.25 | trh_ | not what they'll implement |
| 23:40.27 | trh_ | damn it |
| 23:40.28 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 23:40.30 | Funkeh` | you suck |
| 23:40.31 | Funkeh` | clearly |
| 23:40.48 | trh_ | yeah.. skimmed through it.. damn green posters writing what they wish |
| 23:41.00 | Funkeh` | ' By the way, there are no plans to add additional load manager functionality. What you see is what you get. :)' |
| 23:41.16 | trh_ | Funkeh`: ya.. when i read that i rechecked what the green poster really wrote |
| 23:41.21 | trh_ | and corrected it |
| 23:41.38 | Gnarfoz | does GetBattlefieldStatus also work for arenas? |
| 23:42.35 | abyssichate | Does Antagonist work with buffgains of bosses? |
| 23:42.42 | ckknight | I thought I told Cide to dislodge the rod from his ass... |
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| 23:44.43 | Funkeh` | ckknight: ? |
| 23:44.52 | Funkeh` | ckknight: give dirt |
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| 23:45.58 | ckknight | Funkeh`: Cide says that Dewdrop is bad because it has sliders and a textedit. |
| 23:46.04 | abyssichate | Funkeh`: have you got some transcripts of Essence of Souls? |
| 23:46.26 | trh_ | dewdrop is pure awesomeness :) |
| 23:46.48 | trh_ | in my opinion the most useful library beside ace2 itself |
| 23:48.16 | Kemayo | Cite is a little bit abrasive, we must admit. |
| 23:48.35 | Xuerian | Cide is on the good side of abrasive, really |
| 23:48.42 | Xuerian | Emo Kitteh is the bad. |
| 23:48.50 | ckknight | hay be nice |
| 23:49.01 | NightHawkTheSane | wait.. i don't get how having sliders/textedit makes it bad? |
| 23:50.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I also don't get why my damn who download is taking so long. /whinge |
| 23:52.46 | Antiarc | Kalman|: I think I've concluded that...Vamp Embrace only causes threat for the priest for their own mana gains, and causes no threat for party members. |
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| 23:53.55 | ckknight_ | gah |
| 23:53.57 | ckknight_ | NightHawkTheSane: yea, me either |
| 23:54.06 | trh_ | ckknight: your isp connections seesm to be bad |
| 23:54.12 | ckknight | no |
| 23:54.14 | ckknight | it's my cord |
| 23:54.29 | Antiarc | I have a 60 priest, 0 spell damage, not in shadowform, and a level 20 warlock. I drained both their mana pools before pulling the mob. I pulled with VT1. It did 505 damage. I then had a level 20 warlock melee the mob until it pulled aggro. The warlock did 587 damage when she pulled aggro, with damage ranging between 6 and 15 per hit. |
| 23:54.44 | Antiarc | Ooh, wait. >_> |
| 23:54.48 | Antiarc | Maths. |
| 23:55.20 | Kalman| | 505 + .05*505*x <= 587/1.1 |
| 23:55.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40283 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - typo |
| 23:55.23 | Kalman| | I think. |
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| 23:55.37 | Kalman| | Ooh, priest has threat reduction talent, yeah? |
| 23:55.54 | BankZ | Are there any addons that tell you whos speaking in Vent? |
| 23:56.04 | Antiarc | Kalman|: No, I don't have it |
| 23:56.07 | ckknight | not addons |
| 23:56.10 | Antiarc | I didn't account for the 0.5 mana gain modifier |
| 23:56.14 | ckknight | BankZ: but there's VoiceOverlay |
| 23:56.24 | Antiarc | Which makes it clear that the priest does, in fact, get the threat for all mana gains to the party from VT. |
| 23:57.28 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40284 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMail.lua BulkMail2.toc lib/): |
| 23:57.28 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 23:57.28 | CIA-22 | - use Abacus for money formatting |
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| 23:59.36 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40285 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:59.36 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 23:59.36 | CIA-22 | - Use Abacus for money formatting; add a count of total money in your inbox to the inbox tablet header |
| 23:59.36 | CIA-22 | - Added "Take Selected": Left-click without modifier keys in the inbox tablet to select them |
| 23:59.57 | kenlyric | zomg |
