| 00:00.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:57] <Daemona> ret-arded? ;) <--i'm making YOU crit 3% more. AND make you do 2% more damage. and give you 264 extra AP. :P |
| 00:00.44 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and a 4000 CS crit isn't too bad either :P |
| 00:01.05 | Antiarc|Work | I goes home now. Have a good one, folks :) |
| 00:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | and i go to bed now |
| 00:01.16 | sag_ich_nicht | good night :O |
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| 00:02.02 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: commit? |
| 00:02.04 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work drop me a line when you are back, parsing combatlog tonight |
| 00:02.10 | Antiarc|Work | Committing now. |
| 00:02.10 | Daemona | from tonight ;) |
| 00:02.14 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: Will do |
| 00:02.21 | ckknight | Kenco replied! |
| 00:02.28 | Daemona | DRAMA ! |
| 00:02.29 | Daemona | !!! |
| 00:02.30 | abyssichate | Daemona: did you take EoS down yet? |
| 00:02.44 | Daemona | 2nd time tonight, yes |
| 00:02.47 | ckknight | He is such a fucking dick! |
| 00:02.57 | ckknight | "Gee, those were some inspiring posts about absolute versus relative time. Inspiringly stupid. I'm going to explain in simple terms why you are wrong, but you'll have to pay close attention since mathematics doesn't appear to be your strong suit." |
| 00:02.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight I can't get over the feeling that you aren't just doing this because you want to make a better addon :P |
| 00:03.01 | trh | ckknight: woot? *refreshs* no, nothing? |
| 00:03.09 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: oh, I just want to stick it to Kenco |
| 00:03.25 | trh | ah.. there it is |
| 00:03.54 | abyssichate | Gief tactics! Approaching them tonight |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39955 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Heavy changes to the publish mechanism. Should use bucket events |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-22 | rather than a scheduled event now. Should hopefully fix problems with people |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-22 | prematurely stopping their publish. Added debug method and a bunch of debug |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-22 | messages. Totally untested and highly likely to break in horrible and |
| 00:04.42 | CIA-22 | interesting ways. |
| 00:05.09 | Wixi | i won't update just yet :) |
| 00:05.19 | trh | hehe |
| 00:05.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:02] <@ckknight> He is such a fucking dick! <--yeah |
| 00:05.35 | sag_ich_nicht | but so are you |
| 00:05.42 | ckknight | but I'm more articulate |
| 00:05.49 | NightHawkTheSane | and in this case, right. |
| 00:06.06 | Funkeh` | ckknight might be a dick but at least he listens to reason |
| 00:06.17 | ckknight | he hasn't before |
| 00:06.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: unless it comes from _some_ people. |
| 00:06.30 | Funkeh` | other dicks? |
| 00:06.34 | trh | na.. ckknight isn't dick |
| 00:06.41 | Funkeh` | yes he is |
| 00:06.43 | sag_ich_nicht | trh he is, and at least he admits it :P |
| 00:07.00 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: then you don't know REAL dicks ;) |
| 00:07.05 | hyperChipmunk | yes he is |
| 00:07.07 | Daemona | abyssichate no? |
| 00:07.12 | Funkeh` | that sounds so gay |
| 00:07.12 | hypetech | can you spawn nightbane without killing prince? |
| 00:07.17 | Funkeh` | i won't even take it further |
| 00:07.26 | trh | hypetech: yes, definitly |
| 00:07.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight which reminds me... i can't point to you the cause of it, but stop touching the god damn MainMenuBar with fubar |
| 00:07.35 | Funkeh` | yes hypetech you can kill him even before curator |
| 00:07.35 | sag_ich_nicht | it annoys the fuck out of me |
| 00:07.47 | hypetech | how can you kill NB before curator? |
| 00:07.56 | Funkeh` | quite easily? |
| 00:08.02 | Funkeh` | NB isn't connected to any boss |
| 00:08.09 | trh | hypetech: clear opear go to backdoor |
| 00:08.14 | Daemona | you just have to have the item |
| 00:08.20 | Daemona | to summon NB |
| 00:08.30 | Daemona | (which involves killing the prince at least once) |
| 00:08.32 | trh | Daemona: ya.. and to get there clear opear =) |
| 00:08.36 | trh | Daemona: opera |
| 00:08.38 | Kalman| | Moroes, Opera are the prereqs. |
| 00:08.59 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39956 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: |
| 00:08.59 | CIA-22 | GraphLib - Filled Data Sets are now drawn with the right ordering now. Data sets |
| 00:08.59 | CIA-22 | passed first are drawn first so will be behind later datasets. Warning if you |
| 00:08.59 | CIA-22 | touch the frame levels of the graph and its children make sure you keep the same |
| 00:08.59 | CIA-22 | relative frame levels |
| 00:09.23 | hyperChipmunk | 1 table is created when you deal damage to a mob but aren't in combat. This requires you to damage a mob before it aggros you and are in combat. Let's call it about once a day. |
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| 00:09.27 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 00:09.28 | sag_ich_nicht | same goes for MinimapCluster, and you're touching that one even worse with fubar :P |
| 00:09.37 | hyperChipmunk | once a DAY? |
| 00:10.35 | trh | omg.. is kenco really 53 years old? |
| 00:10.43 | KarlThePagan | you must be pro to only get adds once a day |
| 00:11.18 | ckknight | okay, I replied |
| 00:11.22 | hyperChipmunk | i'd say about 12 |
| 00:11.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i managed to freeze MainMenuBar in place using FluidFrames, but there shouldn't be a reason for fubar to overwrite it's stored placement from layout-cache.txt in the first place causing me to have to do this... and you're doing someone similiar to MinimapCluster, only I can't even manage to freeze that one in place :P |
| 00:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | someone link me? |
| 00:12.14 | Peoii | hrm... okay. |
| 00:12.23 | trh | ckknight: uh.. math minor.. geeky ;) |
| 00:12.31 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39957 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: deDE fixes |
| 00:12.35 | ckknight | trh: so? |
| 00:12.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: link thread? im lazy :P |
| 00:12.40 | Peoii | So everytime someone leaves or joins my party, wow hard crashes. |
| 00:12.45 | ckknight | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268705 |
| 00:12.47 | hyperChipmunk | doesn't he realize that function calls incur their own overhead yet? |
| 00:12.49 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268682 |
| 00:12.56 | trh | ckknight: got cs as major too... but with financial stuff minor :) |
| 00:13.33 | KarlThePagan | oh delicious drama... drama drama |
| 00:13.48 | Peoii | DBG:AceEvent20Frame |
| 00:13.52 | Peoii | that make sense to anyone? |
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| 00:14.29 | Peoii | Literally, someone leaves or joins the party, wow crashes. And it's only started happening recently. |
| 00:14.39 | Peoii | by that I mean today. |
| 00:14.40 | ckknight | Peoii: what UF you using? |
| 00:14.44 | Peoii | Pitbull |
| 00:14.48 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 00:14.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: try it out, move MainMenuBar just by changing it's position in layout-cache.txt, fubar will reset it back to the blizz UI defaults a few OnUpdates later, and it's damn annoying :P |
| 00:14.51 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 00:14.55 | ckknight | update everything, Peoii |
| 00:15.05 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: yea.. |
| 00:15.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i think there might be a rather big bug in blizzards memory managment code |
| 00:15.15 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: where? |
| 00:15.19 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 00:15.23 | Cryect | huh why do you say that? |
| 00:15.27 | Peoii | I have been, regularly. Updated everything just again, and the only difference in the changelog was the subdir change. |
| 00:15.31 | sag_ich_nicht | each time i get a WoW crash |
| 00:15.41 | Cryect | A filled graph example for those curious http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/985/filledgraphexamplezc5.jpg |
| 00:15.55 | sag_ich_nicht | (some of the time with an "not enough memory for that function available" error message) |
| 00:16.07 | sag_ich_nicht | the WoW error reporter reports my pagefile size as -1 |
| 00:16.10 | hyperChipmunk | Cyrez: verynice |
| 00:16.19 | sag_ich_nicht | and since it gets it' |
| 00:16.38 | sag_ich_nicht | eh |
| 00:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid enterkey, nvm the last line |
| 00:17.03 | Cryect | I've not seen wow "crash" in a while personally |
| 00:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and the wow error reporting tool doesn't support the latest version of dbghelp.dll properly |
| 00:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | causing the error team to miss half of the error report because it's not using dbghelp.dll at all :O |
| 00:18.12 | ckknight | btw, so people know, the whole KTM commenting thing isn't about making Kenco change his mind, it's about winning over the hearts and minds of his users |
| 00:18.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd report it on the forums, but i'm playing EU and... doubt the technical competence of the blizzard europe folks, considering they don't even manage to properly translate some case-sensitive technical things :P |
| 00:19.25 | Cryect | I don't think anyone here really thinks Kenco will suddenly change his mind |
| 00:19.39 | NeoTron | man how stupid is kenco, really? "Are you saying you haven't heard anyone commenting that their computer runs slower with profiling on? " |
| 00:19.58 | trh | i wonder what his technical/mathematical background is |
| 00:20.06 | NeoTron | does he not understand the basic concept of "profiling"? OF course it makes it execute slower |
| 00:20.22 | ckknight | NeoTron: not necessarily true |
| 00:20.25 | ckknight | depends on the situation |
| 00:20.39 | ckknight | you have two options: go with an event system or go with a polling system |
| 00:20.46 | NeoTron | I once ran an embedded app in valgrind solely to get it down to a speed similar of the handheld it was made for |
| 00:20.47 | ckknight | Threat-1.0 uses the best of both and uses a bucketed event system |
| 00:21.08 | NeoTron | ckknight: what I mean is that profiling by itself will always add some degree of overhead |
| 00:21.24 | NeoTron | doesn't mean it's inaccurate, just means it's recording metrics.. |
| 00:21.44 | Cryect | which is whats so amusing about KTM having a built in profiler |
| 00:21.59 | Cryect | that 99.99% of users who use KTM don't know of |
| 00:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Cryect: and 100%-1 don't care about :P |
| 00:22.26 | ckknight | my argument of using a wrapping system is very valid |
| 00:22.32 | ckknight | even more valid pre-2.1 |
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| 00:25.10 | Chompers | ckknight: your post on Curse is great |
| 00:25.19 | ckknight | which one? |
| 00:25.29 | ckknight | big one or small one? |
| 00:25.50 | Chompers | the big one |
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| 00:26.58 | ven | it's great how he ignores most of the points and just puts them aside saying "In regards to the rest of your posts, there's enough unsupported claims coming from ckknight to make the eyes pop" |
| 00:28.50 | ckknight | I had 1 unsupported claim |
| 00:28.56 | ckknight | that I derived from looking at his code |
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| 00:31.07 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r39958 10Sanity2/ (Sanity2.toc localization_koKR.lua): |
| 00:31.07 | CIA-22 | Sanity2 : |
| 00:31.07 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.53 | Daemona | "The only garbage creation here is coming from ckknight." <3 |
| 00:33.01 | hyperChipmunk | ven: i just posted, taking him to task for that. Gave him a chance to defend whatever part of his code he wants; interested to hear his response |
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| 00:33.36 | hyperChipmunk | because I honestly don't think anyone cares about HOW it gets to be such a mess |
| 00:33.48 | Chompers | guys, i need your help |
| 00:33.51 | hyperChipmunk | but if he's so smart, then why is his code so slow |
| 00:34.12 | hyperChipmunk | he can't deny that his code is a friggin' beast |
| 00:34.33 | Chompers | say i block access to an advert by blocking it in my HOSTs file, will that cause a performance hit every time a website tries to access the ad? |
| 00:34.43 | ven | it's not slow apparently.. it's the profiler giving wrong numbers -_-;; |
| 00:35.04 | KarlThePagan | he's just shown himself to be a flaming jackass... like other anti-ace guys... he'll flail about and claim that his mod is better and then waves and waves of users will convert |
| 00:35.04 | trh | Chompers: depends on how your browser handles non-existing/non-reachable hosts |
| 00:35.06 | Daemona | Chompers uhm yes, as the dns lookup has to timeout i think :/ |
| 00:35.09 | ckknight | very wrong, ven |
| 00:35.16 | ckknight | ven: also, the FPS monitor, wrong |
| 00:35.17 | trh | Chompers: just use firefox and install adblockplus :) |
| 00:35.19 | ckknight | clearly. |
| 00:35.22 | ckknight | it's biased against KTM! |
| 00:35.40 | KarlThePagan | Adblock for FireFox is awesome |
| 00:35.40 | Chompers | would it be as big a performance hit as say a program designed to prevent ads? |
| 00:36.07 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: Adblock Plus + EasyElement+EasyList subscription + NoScript + Fasterfox == Love |
| 00:36.23 | Gagorian | What does Fasterfox do? |
| 00:36.46 | hyperChipmunk | installs rocket boosters on your fox |
| 00:36.46 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 00:36.49 | trh | Chompers: depends on the browser, but adblockplus should before the request gets created and sent |
| 00:36.50 | Antiarc | Chompers: It should be very fast if you redirect that host to 127.0.0.1 and you don't have anything running on port 80 |
| 00:37.02 | Antiarc | HOSTS bypasses the DNS lookup and uses the given address |
| 00:37.04 | Thrae | Gagorian: Helps people with slow/bad connections mostly, but also helps against Flash pop-ups, and speeds stuff up a little for everyone. |
| 00:37.14 | Antiarc | So it'll immediately get a refused connection from localhost and continue on its way |
| 00:37.15 | trh | Chompers: so it probably doesn't really matter what way you use |
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| 00:37.27 | Gagorian | Thrae: hmm, seems interesting enough then to test :) |
| 00:37.36 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r39959 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.toc Locales/KingOfTheJungle-koKR.lua): |
| 00:37.36 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 00:37.36 | CIA-22 | - Added localization koKR |
| 00:37.38 | Chompers | i've been using a modified hosts file for a year or two now and have never noticed a slowdown, yet my buddys telling me its a drain on resources |
| 00:37.45 | Chompers | just trying to figure out whos right |
| 00:37.49 | Primer | pardon me for the slightly offtopic question, but: |
| 00:37.49 | trh | Antiarc: ya, but still socket calls have to be done to create a socket connection etc. |
| 00:37.51 | Primer | Hello, I'd like to try a friend's UI mods. I presume it's safe to simply move my WTF and AddOns directories out of the way, then copy his AddOns directory in the place where mine was, configure it, and if I don't like it, simply restore the 2 moved directories and all will be as was before? |
| 00:37.58 | trh | Antiarc: that do not have been created with adblockplus |
| 00:38.03 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: Also, please make a distinction between people that think they can do better then Ace and people that think Ace generally sucks ;) |
| 00:38.12 | Chompers | i use the adblocker addon for firefox tool |
| 00:38.14 | Antiarc | trh: Eh, locally it's fast enough that for a browser, it shouldn't matter, but you'r right, adblock should keep those requests from initiating. |
| 00:38.14 | ckknight | Primer: right. |
| 00:38.17 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: They're not -usually- the same, y'know. |
| 00:38.21 | Primer | ckknight: thanks |
| 00:39.05 | Diao | oh |
| 00:39.10 | Diao | Cryect what is the "friendly fire" option in recount |
| 00:39.15 | trh | Antiarc: ya.. i think it doesnt matter which methode you use.. using adblockplus costs more memory probably, but in terms of cpu usage it shouldn't really matter |
| 00:39.28 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r39960 10SanityItemCache/ (SanityItemCache.toc localization_koKR.lua): |
| 00:39.28 | CIA-22 | SanityItemCache : |
| 00:39.29 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.33 | Antiarc | Diao: I assume things like Shatter and Static Charge |
| 00:39.39 | Antiarc | Player<->player damage |
| 00:39.50 | Diao | yeah that's what i thought |
| 00:39.54 | Diao | but it doesn't appear to be right lol |
| 00:40.33 | Diao | cause i was just doing some regular quests in terrokar with a friend yesterday for some spare gold and at the end it said i'd done 60k worth of friendly fire damage, but i didn't have any debuff of any sort that'd make me damage her |
| 00:40.37 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: relatively good post |
| 00:40.54 | hyperChipmunk | it's a valid point |
| 00:41.04 | hyperChipmunk | i tried to make it non-insulting |
| 00:41.45 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: change CPU-sucking to CPU overusage |
| 00:42.32 | Kalman| | Diao: Class? |
| 00:42.36 | hyperChipmunk | done |
| 00:42.50 | Diao | warrior |
| 00:42.55 | ckknight | delicious |
| 00:43.01 | hyperChipmunk | any other thread, it would sound like I was insulting in tone, but he's pretty much said all that stuff himself |
| 00:43.11 | Diao | i'll take a ss if i haven't reset the meter |
| 00:43.12 | hyperChipmunk | s/insulting/mocking/ |
| 00:43.13 | ckknight | we cannot insult him |
| 00:43.15 | Wixi | Diao: Bloodrage? |
| 00:43.16 | ckknight | at least directly |
| 00:43.23 | ckknight | we can imply that he's a jerk |
| 00:43.28 | ckknight | but we cannot come outright and say it |
| 00:43.28 | Diao | well |
| 00:43.35 | Diao | no |
| 00:43.36 | trh | i think he feels insulted because we criticise his work |
| 00:43.38 | ckknight | in this, we stay above his level |
| 00:43.50 | Kalman| | Bloodrage isn't going to be 60k, I'd think. That's a lot of bloodraging. |
| 00:44.17 | Wixi | depends how long was questing for |
| 00:44.28 | Kalman| | 60k damage is what, 600 bloodrages? |
| 00:45.16 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: yea, i'm not gonna stoop to name-calling that way |
| 00:45.23 | Wixi | 700 damage per bloodrage in zerker stance |
| 00:45.28 | Diao | here's a screenshot |
| 00:45.34 | Kalman| | Oh. In that case, yeah, maybe. |
| 00:45.38 | hyperChipmunk | but to anyone else the Thou Who Art... would seem insulting/mocking |
| 00:45.38 | Diao | er |
| 00:45.39 | Diao | let me upload |
| 00:45.48 | hyperChipmunk | but he's pretty much admitted it already |
| 00:46.25 | Diao | http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot061407174552li9.jpg |
| 00:47.06 | Cryect | Diao: Yes, its damage to players to other players (or hostile NPC's to other Hostile NPC's) |
| 00:47.21 | Diao | hm |
| 00:47.25 | Cryect | also |
| 00:47.27 | ven | he might just claim as always, that his "modular" addon structure is the cause for the profiler giving too high numbers and so the accusation of cpu overusage is unfounded |
| 00:47.31 | Cryect | you can see what caused the friendly damage |
| 00:47.37 | Diao | http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot061407174608vo3.jpg <- |
| 00:47.41 | Diao | why does it say those mobs are friendly o_O |
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| 00:48.03 | deltron | mind control? |
| 00:48.15 | Chompers | is that protractor? |
| 00:48.17 | Cryect | Prolly was some point in time where it captured them as friendly |
| 00:48.21 | Cryect | no recount |
| 00:48.24 | Diao | recount |
| 00:48.24 | Diao | oh ok |
| 00:48.32 | Cryect | Once it checks them once |
| 00:48.35 | Cryect | it doesn't recheck |
| 00:48.40 | Primer | Anyone here use/make/modify damage meters? I have an issue where report to party only reports my damage, and when I do /dm report p5, it cuts off #1 |
| 00:48.47 | Diao | ahic |
| 00:49.06 | Chompers | that's pretty goddamn sexy |
| 00:49.06 | deltron | the damagemeters mod? no |
| 00:49.12 | Chompers | time to install |
| 00:49.14 | hyperChipmunk | but it isn't |
| 00:49.21 | Primer | deltron: yes, that |
| 00:49.32 | deltron | Primer: there's a couple new damage meter mods in development here |
| 00:49.37 | hyperChipmunk | you don't need a profiler to see the resource-whorage |
| 00:49.40 | Primer | deltron: are they stable? |
| 00:49.49 | Primer | deltron: and if so, can you recommend one? |
| 00:49.49 | deltron | yup |
| 00:49.56 | Kalman| | Primer: Recount is pretty stable, long as you reset it every time you upgrade. |
| 00:49.58 | Cryect | normally its pretty good at differenting between friendly/hostile |
| 00:50.13 | Kalman| | I don't use Violation or Assessment, Roartindon or Adirelle could tell you more on those. |
| 00:50.17 | Cryect | Also Violation and Assessment |
| 00:50.17 | deltron | Primer: try out Omen |
| 00:50.21 | deltron | yeah |
| 00:50.31 | deltron | I didn't mean omen heh |
| 00:50.38 | deltron | omen is the new threat meter replacement |
| 00:50.42 | Cryect | heh I was wondering on OMen :-p |
| 00:50.58 | deltron | but use omen instead of KLH Treat Meter ;) |
| 00:50.58 | Primer | that's good, I've been meaning to install a threat meter as well |
| 00:51.02 | Gagorian | Diao: 117.1 MB UI. What are you running? :> |
| 00:51.03 | Cryect | They each have different goals/objectives behind them so one maybe more fitting than another |
| 00:51.08 | Diao | a lot of crap :P |
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| 00:51.17 | deltron | Omen is awesome, threat per mob is FTW |
| 00:51.20 | Diao | auctioneer, lootlink, mobinfo |
| 00:51.25 | Diao | probably going to remove ll/mi though |
| 00:51.31 | deltron | I got a ton of mods myself |
| 00:51.37 | deltron | i'm always around 90mb or so |
| 00:51.41 | ckknight | Violation works as a damage/healing/threat meter |
| 00:51.45 | deltron | doesn't impact performance though |
| 00:51.46 | ckknight | Omen is just threat |
| 00:51.49 | Gagorian | I got 'tons of mods' and I'm at 23mb |
| 00:51.59 | deltron | I use violation and omen |
| 00:52.01 | Diao | should've seen my old UI |
| 00:52.07 | Diao | before i switched to ace2 stuff |
| 00:52.13 | Diao | 150mb on initial load :P |
| 00:52.16 | sdouble | Antiarc, "How about checking if I'm fighting the Twin Emperors while I'm in Nagrand? You never know when a GM might warp them in and I'll spontaneously form a 40-man raid group to fight them where I'll need precise threat information." <-- Excellent point. I hope you add that at some point. |
| 00:52.16 | abyssichate | I used nurfed before, it was a pain :s |
| 00:52.17 | Cryect | wtf |
| 00:52.35 | *** join/#wowace Borked|Raider (n=jedirc@s-hjem.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk) |
| 00:52.40 | Cryect | sdouble: yeah you never know when those GM's will throw curveballs at you |
| 00:52.42 | deltron | heh I used nurfed like a year ago or so |
| 00:52.45 | Diao | i was running discord suite and other similar mods |
| 00:52.45 | Diao | lol |
| 00:52.52 | Gagorian | nurfed code seems horrible imo |
| 00:52.58 | Antiarc | sdouble: The irony is that Threat would pick them up when you mouse over them and enable the module. |
| 00:53.02 | Antiarc | So Threat would work properly. |
| 00:53.11 | Borked|Raider | UnitClassification("mouseover") == "worldboss" is that true for adds of a raidboss aswell? take maulgar's adds ect+ |
| 00:53.31 | ckknight | Antiarc: mouse over or target |
| 00:53.37 | Antiarc | True. |
| 00:53.41 | deltron | there is something that needs to be done with Omen though for healers, since I generally don't target players or mobs |
| 00:53.50 | ckknight | deltron: mouseover? |
| 00:53.52 | Antiarc | deltron: It should get targettarget if target is friendly. |
| 00:54.00 | deltron | if you mouseover? |
| 00:54.00 | Antiarc | Oh, right, that |
| 00:54.08 | ckknight | Antiarc: hrm... |
| 00:54.10 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: i haven't seen it do that in weeks |
| 00:54.12 | Antiarc | I've been meaning to add in a net message that remotely activates a module |
| 00:54.21 | deltron | I'll try it right now |
| 00:55.06 | Cryect | Threat on Mouseover sounds like a Tooltip addon more so than something for omen |
| 00:55.12 | Diao | i think he meant |
| 00:55.17 | Diao | activating threat module |
| 00:55.31 | Cryect | well no |
| 00:55.36 | Antiarc | Cryect: Activating a boss mod on mouseover |
| 00:55.38 | Cryect | deltron was talking about threat I thought? |
| 00:55.39 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: n/m, i see it's working now |
| 00:55.42 | Antiarc | yay! |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39961 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | - Added "Single Target Mode" as a threat option. Enabling this will reset your |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | threat when that mob is killed. This is to enable more meaningful display in |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | situations where you have multiple tanks on the same named mob. Disabled by |
| 00:58.26 | CIA-22 | default. |
| 00:58.28 | CIA-22 | - Slightly inaccurate as the kill message comes before the damage message |
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| 00:59.18 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@ppp121-45-192-115.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) |
| 00:59.20 | Gagorian | DVD-quality seems so bad after wathing x264 720p/1080p sources :/ |
| 00:59.29 | Gagorian | s/wathing/watching/ |
| 00:59.31 | Gagorian | l2spell |
| 00:59.32 | deltron | what I mean is that with Omen, it does not display anything in the threat window because I don't usually have anyone targeted |
| 00:59.33 | ckknight | is :SetFrameStrata a protected method? |
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| 01:00.35 | Primer | haha you need to translate s/// |
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| 01:00.59 | hyperChipmunk | don't think so |
| 01:01.03 | Kalman| | Gagorian: I spent the weekend projecting at a film festival; the quality difference between people who gave us DVDs and people who gave us 1080p Beta tapes was unreal. |
| 01:01.23 | deltron | beta tapes? |
| 01:01.25 | deltron | betamax? |
| 01:01.27 | Borked|Raider | that eqdkp parser is a hell, not much logic in it of how it works :( |
| 01:01.32 | Kalman| | Digibeta and Beta SP. |
| 01:01.44 | hyperChipmunk | uh, that's because dvds don't do 1080p |
| 01:01.52 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 01:02.07 | Primer | loaded Recount and the first thing that comes up is an error popup |
| 01:02.14 | trh | Kalman|: didn't tried hd-dvd/bluray? |
| 01:02.38 | Primer | actually, 3 |
| 01:02.40 | Kalman| | trh: We didn't accept submissions on HD-DVD/Bluray. |
| 01:02.42 | Cryect | Primer: whats the error? |
| 01:02.50 | Kalman| | And hyperChipmunk, I'm aware. |
| 01:02.57 | hyperChipmunk | deltron: most television is done with betamax; VHS 'won' teh format war for the consumer |
| 01:03.11 | Cryect | and are you running embedded libraries or not? |
| 01:03.15 | trh | i really hope hd-dvd wins now... i dislike sony :) |
| 01:03.20 | Primer | Cryect: Is there a logfile of errors? |
| 01:03.28 | Kalman| | hyperChipmunk: No TV is done with betamax; TV is done on betacam, mostly, which is similar to, but not the same as, betamax. |
| 01:03.29 | Cryect | Umm well if you have Buggrabber |
| 01:03.32 | Cryect | that does that |
| 01:03.34 | ckknight | trh: show me where sony touched you on the doll |
| 01:03.35 | hyperChipmunk | but beta is still predominant for professional work |
| 01:03.44 | hyperChipmunk | Kalman|: did i say betamax? |
| 01:03.45 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 01:03.48 | hyperChipmunk | oops, yea guess i did |
| 01:03.50 | trh | ckknight: shipping rootkits with their audio-cd's |
| 01:03.51 | deltron | lol |
| 01:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: lol |
| 01:03.56 | trh | ckknight: and defending it |
| 01:04.02 | Kalman| | hyperChipmunk: I wouldn't have corrected you if you hadn't. :p |
| 01:04.03 | Primer | Cryect: I don't know if I am running embedded. I usually use wowace updater to update my box at home, then I rsync to this box |
| 01:04.11 | Primer | but I haven't synced in a while |
| 01:04.15 | kaiden | i wonder, have they mapped out the fel reaver paths in HFP yet? |
| 01:04.28 | ckknight | trh: oh, right |
| 01:04.32 | trh | ckknight: and their proprietary formats EVERYWHERE.. i mean.. memory stick, minidisc and so on |
| 01:04.38 | Primer | Cryect: I can take some screen shots I suppose |
| 01:04.39 | ckknight | yea... |
| 01:04.46 | Cryect | Primer: Heh, well take a screenshot of the error or install buggrabber and bugsack and paste it on pastey.net and I can fix it |
| 01:04.51 | trh | ckknight: they just can't accept a standard and complicate it for everyone |
| 01:04.58 | hyperChipmunk | kaiden: yea, you just plot out where all the newbies are, then draw a shortest-path line between them |
| 01:05.10 | Primer | Cryect: ok |
| 01:05.49 | Primer | sigh...wine doesn't pass the key stroke |
| 01:06.01 | Primer | for screen shot (it seems) |
| 01:06.06 | hyperChipmunk | wfm |
| 01:06.09 | trh | i wish they'd rename wine to "whine"... it'd fit alot better :) |
| 01:06.11 | Primer | I'm playing at work...only have linux here |
| 01:06.26 | hyperChipmunk | Primer: but you can use import just as easily |
| 01:06.33 | Primer | hyperChipmunk: of course |
| 01:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | but wine has always taken screenshots for me just fine |
| 01:07.35 | Primer | http://daniel.omnis.com/wow1.jpg |
| 01:07.38 | Primer | 2 and 3 |
| 01:08.27 | Cryect | yeah it didn't load up threat-1.0 in error 1 |
| 01:08.38 | Antiarc | Primer: What locale? |
| 01:08.39 | Cryect | then Recount doesn't check to make sure it actually loaded so triggers that error :-p |
| 01:08.58 | Primer | Antiarc: well, wine is running with LANG=en_US.utf8 :) |
| 01:09.06 | Cryect | no he means your WoW client |
| 01:09.07 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 01:09.11 | Primer | yeah, NFI |
| 01:09.12 | Cryect | are you running on US Servers? |
| 01:09.15 | Primer | English |
| 01:09.17 | Primer | yes |
| 01:09.32 | Cryect | k then enUS is your locale |
| 01:09.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39962 10PitBull/ (26 files in 26 dirs): PitBull - fiddle with the ln -s checker |
| 01:09.46 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 01:09.48 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: |
| 01:09.54 | hyperChipmunk | i am going to beat your face |
| 01:09.59 | ckknight | no? |
| 01:10.06 | Primer | Recount-r39835.1012.zip |
| 01:10.08 | ckknight | not before I beat yours |
| 01:10.16 | Primer | in case you need the revision number |
| 01:10.21 | Cryect | I think I know the issue |
| 01:10.29 | Cryect | maybe |
| 01:10.30 | Cryect | let me check |
| 01:10.37 | ckknight | Primer: /print AceLibrary("Babble-Boss-2.2"):GetLibraryVersion() |
| 01:10.53 | Cryect | Yeah recount isn't including babble-boss |
| 01:11.04 | Cryect | so you didn't get an updated version of that |
| 01:11.09 | Cryect | didn't know that got added :) |
| 01:11.26 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: why the face-beatings? |
| 01:11.28 | Primer | 3696927198 |
| 01:11.38 | hyperChipmunk | I saw 26 file changes |
| 01:11.49 | ckknight | so? |
| 01:11.49 | hyperChipmunk | if i have to reconfig for the third time today |
| 01:11.55 | ckknight | no |
| 01:11.55 | hyperChipmunk | face beatings will commence |
| 01:11.56 | ckknight | you don't |
| 01:12.20 | hyperChipmunk | ok, then they're just because you're a schmuck then |
| 01:13.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | The Ultimate Insult! |
| 01:13.28 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: putz |
| 01:13.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, its on now, are you going to take that from him, hyperChipmunk? |
| 01:13.42 | ckknight | Antiarc: hey, did you fix AceComm-2.0: Cannot set prefix to "Thr", it is already in use. ? |
| 01:13.48 | ckknight | Antiarc: by stealing what Quixote did |
| 01:14.25 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: yo momma's a snowblower |
| 01:14.46 | Antiarc | ckknight: I didn't steal Quixote but I fixed it |
| 01:14.57 | Antiarc | I just added a deactivate method for ThreatLib that does appropriate teardown |
| 01:15.05 | ckknight | you take that back, knave! |
| 01:15.20 | ckknight | Antiarc: people are complaining... |
| 01:15.38 | Antiarc | Still? Mrr. |
| 01:15.46 | Antiarc | It fixed it for me. |
| 01:15.59 | Cryect | Slow updaters? |
| 01:16.04 | Antiarc | I had an older version of Threatlib disembedded + new version embedded and it fixed it. |
| 01:16.13 | Antiarc | (that being the failure case before) |
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| 01:16.26 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39963 10Recount/ (. GUI_Graph.lua Recount.toc WindowOrder.lua): |
| 01:16.26 | CIA-22 | Recount - Adds 2 missing externs needed by Threat-1.0 |
| 01:16.27 | CIA-22 | -Fixes an issue in the window ordering system |
| 01:16.51 | Primer | are snapshots made on commit? :) |
| 01:17.13 | Cryect | afraid not every 20 minutes |
| 01:17.15 | Antiarc | Every 20 min |
| 01:17.21 | Cryect | should be one in about 4 minutes or so prolly |
| 01:17.26 | Primer | ok, I'll download again in 20 minutes |
| 01:17.43 | Primer | I have to leave anyhow, it's painful when you get 10 fps and extreme mouse lag |
| 01:17.49 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39964 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Didn't mean to commit that graphing change >_> |
| 01:17.49 | Primer | thanks |
| 01:18.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | Cryect, pay for a server farm, and then you can have 4 minute updates :P |
| 01:18.30 | Cryect | shrug who said I'm complaining about 20 minute updates? :-p |
| 01:18.41 | Cryect | I just use the SVN if I want it right this moment |
| 01:18.44 | Primer | svn post commit hook |
| 01:20.09 | NightHawkTheSane | with the ammount of commits on this, a post-commit hook to export/zip/etc would totally kill the server. |
| 01:20.57 | Primer | yeah, j/k |
| 01:21.04 | Cryect | pfft only 39964 commits so far |
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| 01:23.47 | Roartindon | Primer: fyi: screenshot of assessment: www.lim.com.au/wow/assessment.jpg |
| 01:24.08 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: that didn't stop us from trying! |
| 01:24.09 | Roartindon | (was afk before when the question was first asked) |
| 01:24.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: lol, I didn't figure it would have. :P |
| 01:26.17 | Cryect | Roartindon: pfft sell it for the awesome tagging features not for the screenshots :-p |
| 01:26.30 | Roartindon | Cryect: heh, yeah... |
| 01:26.55 | Roartindon | Cryect: But, it does show some interesting stuff, eg. the raw healing bars are split into actual heal/overheal |
| 01:27.10 | Roartindon | Damgae taken is colored by damage type... and it's all tag controllable :) |
| 01:27.25 | Cryect | Roartindon: Yeah thats cool |
| 01:27.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39965 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua Threat-1.0.lua): |
| 01:27.50 | CIA-22 | .Threat-1.0 - simplify :Debug and :DebugLiteral, also fix AceConsole dependency. |
| 01:27.50 | CIA-22 | - fix the commPrefix debauchle. |
| 01:28.27 | Cryect | Also shows how bad of a healer Roartindon is ;) |
| 01:28.34 | Roartindon | Cryect: lol yeah |
| 01:28.48 | Roartindon | Cryect: Is GraphLib pie chart fast enough for realtime update of fights multiple times a second? |
| 01:28.58 | art3mis | ys go gety yer free goodlink server and 5 licences and a free motorola Q phone all for free.. www.good.com |
| 01:29.12 | art3mis | if you've got access to admin on an exchange server and a business tax id ;P |
| 01:29.16 | Cryect | Roartindon: no, once a second sure but much more I would question |
| 01:29.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight fix the damn moving of MainMenuBar or tell me why you do it in the first place, and no, it has nothing to do with the fubar options, it happens with every combination of them. and now that I have annoyed you with that, again, I go to bed |
| 01:29.34 | sag_ich_nicht | good night |
| 01:29.44 | ckknight | Jostle |
| 01:29.57 | Cryect | night |
| 01:30.06 | ckknight | basically, FuBar can be on the bottom or the top |
| 01:30.11 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: when it is you that has agro, it should allow for the full 130% to be seen, regardless whether you're in range |
| 01:30.13 | ckknight | so things have to move to make room |
| 01:30.27 | hyperChipmunk | or will it do that if there are people out of melee? |
| 01:30.37 | Antiarc | Not sure I understand. |
| 01:30.49 | hyperChipmunk | i took agro from my pet |
| 01:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | my meter looked like [||||||||||| ] |
| 01:31.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: that's only a reason for moving up and down |
| 01:31.13 | hyperChipmunk | with the 10% gap at the end |
| 01:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | by the size of fubar |
| 01:31.21 | sag_ich_nicht | but you're also moving it left and right, too |
| 01:31.31 | hyperChipmunk | but if i have agro from out of melee range |
| 01:31.36 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 01:31.47 | hyperChipmunk | it looks like [|||||||| ] |
| 01:31.48 | Antiarc | It should have been the 130% next time you generated a threat event |
| 01:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | with the 130% |
| 01:31.58 | sag_ich_nicht | actually you're not, instead of reseting/moving one coordinate, you are reseting both |
| 01:31.59 | Antiarc | Right, reason being so that you can see when someone would overtake you |
| 01:32.00 | hyperChipmunk | er, 30% gap at the end |
| 01:32.12 | sag_ich_nicht | and this every so-many onupdates |
| 01:32.15 | hyperChipmunk | right, but it's checking where *I* am |
| 01:32.21 | hyperChipmunk | to determine whether to show 110 or 130 |
| 01:32.31 | Antiarc | Oh, right. |
| 01:32.32 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 01:32.34 | hyperChipmunk | it should always be 130 |
| 01:32.41 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: Should it? |
| 01:32.42 | Antiarc | You think? I'd say 110. |
| 01:32.47 | Antiarc | Or maybe show both |
| 01:32.48 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: Because I'd say 110 always :) |
| 01:32.55 | hyperChipmunk | how do i know when a hunter is going to overtake me? |
| 01:33.00 | hyperChipmunk | well, either way |
| 01:33.03 | hyperChipmunk | one or the other |
| 01:33.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39966 10RosterLib/Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua: .Roster-2.1 - potential bugfix with upvalue weirdness. |
| 01:33.11 | hyperChipmunk | it shouldn't be at all dependent on MY range |
| 01:33.27 | hyperChipmunk | in fact |
| 01:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | if you'd do a check if fubar is placed on top or the bottom once, then repositon, and then move the frame, once, and only along one axis and noth both, it would even use less resources(although the gain would be minimal) |
| 01:33.46 | hyperChipmunk | it'd make more sense for it to be the other way around (but still not make complete sense) |
| 01:33.47 | Antiarc | Oh, that is ugly. There's no target-specific resist message for Feign Death |
| 01:33.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean, it's not likely going to change it's position without any user interaction at the bar |
| 01:33.54 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: yea |
| 01:34.15 | hyperChipmunk | i was musing on that in the channel earlier |
| 01:34.20 | NightHawkTheSane | There isn't? |
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| 01:34.26 | ckknight | Antiarc: ick. |
| 01:34.29 | Antiarc | Just a single RESISTED message |
| 01:34.34 | Antiarc | UI_ERROR_MESSAGE |
| 01:34.36 | hyperChipmunk | the other thing is that if you stand back up immediately, it doesn't always clear agro |
| 01:34.40 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 01:34.43 | sag_ich_nicht | (which you could THEN make call the check code, instead of just calling the repositioning code every so often[which repositions/resets on both axises, instead of just the vertical one :P) |
| 01:34.50 | Antiarc | There's a MIRROR_TIMER_START but I suspect that's the cooldown timer thing |
| 01:34.54 | hyperChipmunk | yea, the hunter has no way to know what resisted |
| 01:34.57 | ckknight | Antiarc: can you figure out what KTM does? or does it do something differently? |
| 01:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | hm, i'll check mirror timer start |
| 01:35.13 | hyperChipmunk | i bet that's it |
| 01:35.23 | Antiarc | ckknight: It does the same thing, but KTM is aggregate threat |
| 01:35.29 | Antiarc | So that works, since you just halve the aggregate |
| 01:35.33 | NightHawkTheSane | mirror_timer_start would be starting the 6m FD duration timer, yeah? |
| 01:35.40 | Antiarc | 6m? o.0 |
| 01:35.44 | Antiarc | Ooh, right |
| 01:35.48 | Antiarc | But you get that even if it resists |
| 01:35.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 01:35.56 | Antiarc | I'm thinking that I should just cancel all threat wipes if it resists |
| 01:36.08 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Probably the safest/easiest way |
| 01:36.14 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a good solution Antiarc :O |
| 01:36.16 | hyperChipmunk | you don't get it if nothing resists |
| 01:36.16 | Antiarc | Since hunters can FD every 30 sec, then we're only 30 sec away from a correction assuming they can land it. |
| 01:36.17 | Roartindon | err on the side of caution displaying higher threat |
| 01:36.22 | Roartindon | Then they can FD again 30 seconds later |
| 01:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yeah. if you have no reliable way of determining what resists, assume everything did. |
| 01:36.27 | Antiarc | Yeah. |
| 01:36.52 | ckknight | Antiarc: if they FD and it's resisted, they're dead anyway |
| 01:36.55 | ckknight | so no harm no foul |
| 01:37.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: nah, smart hunters will pre-emptively FD :P |
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| 01:37.21 | hyperChipmunk | and smarter ones will hit readiness |
| 01:37.22 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 01:37.40 | hyperChipmunk | and have points in imp fd |
| 01:37.40 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: course, those hunters are, by definition not smart for speccing survival ;) |
| 01:37.51 | ckknight | Ominous: try to anger Kenco? |
| 01:37.52 | hyperChipmunk | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 01:37.52 | purl | takes NightHawkTheSane to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 01:38.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:38.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yay! chocolate! |
| 01:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i really go to bed... good night *gives ckknight a slap with the fubar code, because doing what it does uncessairly every so many onupdates for that frame repositioning is just as bad as what KTM does, only on far tinier scale* :P |
| 01:39.49 | ckknight | everything's done for a reason |
| 01:40.05 | NightHawkTheSane | including your mom. |
| 01:40.12 | Antiarc | Man, does Concussive Shot always land? |
| 01:40.16 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:40.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: no. >< |
| 01:40.32 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i guess if the hunter has enough +hit, then yes. |
| 01:40.33 | Antiarc | Not that I'm complaining. I've managed to land every one on a target 20 levels above me so far |
| 01:40.39 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: yes, until you need it |
| 01:40.41 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 01:40.54 | sag_ich_nicht | tell me the exact reason then for doing it in this very specific way, because i don't see one, except annoying me and other users(and wasting a tin amount of system resources) :P |
| 01:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | and now really |
| 01:41.05 | sag_ich_nicht | bed time |
| 01:41.09 | sag_ich_nicht | have to go to work in 2 hours |
| 01:41.09 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 01:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | checking mirror_timer_start doesn't help quickly getting back up and not having the fd apply either =\ |
| 01:43.33 | NightHawkTheSane | :\ thats really annoying |
| 01:44.28 | hyperChipmunk | oh, actually i just looked |
| 01:44.38 | hyperChipmunk | if it doesn't, threat doesn't reset anyway |
| 01:44.45 | hyperChipmunk | must not get the success message |
| 01:45.07 | Antiarc | Success comes through. |
| 01:45.45 | hyperChipmunk | even when you get up before the agro wipes? |
| 01:45.53 | Antiarc | Think so, but I'll check |
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| 01:46.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh yea it does |
| 01:46.09 | hyperChipmunk | n/m |
| 01:46.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea, Threat don't catch it |
| 01:46.26 | hyperChipmunk | i must've done a lot of agro somehow |
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| 01:55.03 | NightHawkTheSane | *boggle* what in the hell was I thinking when I wrote this.. "is_int((int)$direction)" |
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| 01:55.48 | hyperChipmunk | "let's see how retarded i can be" |
| 01:59.13 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r39967 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua: |
| 01:59.13 | CIA-22 | Quartz: |
| 01:59.13 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 02:05.31 | hyperChipmunk | omen's bar-stretching is really cool for some textures |
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| 02:06.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39968 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - add Silverwing Flag and Netherstorm Flag |
| 02:06.50 | hyperChipmunk | Warsong Flag? |
| 02:07.39 | Antiarc | Buffs when you're carrying the flag |
| 02:07.52 | hyperChipmunk | nono |
| 02:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | suggesting Warsong Flag get added too |
| 02:08.28 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39969 10BigWigs_BWL/Chromaggus.lua: BigWigs_BWL: fix error introduced by chinese translation |
| 02:08.29 | hyperChipmunk | i use it for a few things; I think i actually put it in my local copy |
| 02:09.07 | hyperChipmunk | and since Silverwing Flag is the horde WSG buff, I assume, it would seem only natural to have the Alliance one too |
| 02:09.20 | NightHawkTheSane | psh. fuck the alliance. |
| 02:09.24 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.51 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 02:11.04 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39970 10BigWigs_AQ20/Buru.lua: BigWigs_AQ20: fix error introduced by chinese translation |
| 02:11.29 | nymbia | how dare they break the buru module! he's hard! |
| 02:11.49 | Funkeh` | its not that |
| 02:12.06 | Funkeh` | i think some nub is doing 'load all' and then complaining that hes other modules don't work :p |
| 02:12.08 | hyperChipmunk | translators mess up everything =\ |
| 02:12.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39971 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add Warsong, Silverwing, and Netherstorm Flags as friendBuffs. |
| 02:13.12 | Funkeh` | now he deleted hes post hmm :p |
| 02:13.59 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r39972 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 02:13.59 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:13.59 | CIA-22 | - Some optimization (less table calls) |
| 02:15.02 | Funkeh` | but the best thing |
| 02:15.15 | Funkeh` | is he has gone and pasted hes chinese url into every bigwigs module in existance |
| 02:15.34 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 02:15.41 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 02:15.44 | hyperChipmunk | i wasn't kidding |
| 02:16.08 | hyperChipmunk | they honestly believe that they're the only ones using the addon |
| 02:16.28 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 02:17.14 | hyperChipmunk | woot |
| 02:17.22 | hyperChipmunk | full stack of 20 ghetto-healthstones $$ |
| 02:20.14 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: The only solution to this is polling. Check every 1ms that you're hunter just to make sure. Then check if UnitIsFeignDeath( "player" ), but this is so important to check, that you have to do it at least 10 times per each frame. |
| 02:20.27 | hyperChipmunk | naturally |
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| 02:23.46 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: don't forget to check if twin emps just skydived in |
| 02:24.30 | ckknight | please |
| 02:24.33 | ckknight | they don't skydive in |
| 02:24.36 | Gagorian | Ah, ffs, forgot about that. I should probably make a function to check every possible scenario, then just add that to each event/update handler just to make sure. |
| 02:24.38 | ckknight | they just appear from the shadows |
| 02:24.59 | hyperChipmunk | no, dude |
| 02:25.01 | Gagorian | But hey, it doesn't matter cause I can like run millionz of empty functions in a second? |
| 02:25.11 | hyperChipmunk | they set up on those floating islands |
| 02:25.24 | hyperChipmunk | and strap on parachute cloaks |
| 02:25.59 | hyperChipmunk | they're like assassins from above |
| 02:26.09 | hyperChipmunk | silent but deadly |
| 02:26.21 | Gagorian | Would be nice to have some kind of statistics how many downloads addons have had from wowace, perhaps by unique IP. |
| 02:26.28 | Gagorian | Has this been discussed? |
| 02:26.34 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 02:26.42 | hyperChipmunk | and summarily dismissed |
| 02:26.54 | Gagorian | Remember why? |
| 02:27.18 | hyperChipmunk | because nobody cares |
| 02:27.32 | nymbia | but.. but my e-peen! |
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| 02:27.41 | hyperChipmunk | precisely |
| 02:28.19 | Gagorian | Well, it would still be kind of interesting. |
| 02:28.35 | hyperChipmunk | K can give you the http logs, i'm sure |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39973 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-22 | - Feign Death fixes. No threat wipe on resist now. |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-22 | - Pet fixes to ensure the pet stays on the threat meter after a dismiss/summon |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-22 | - Don't initialize the pet module unless we have a pet |
| 02:29.27 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Not -that- interesting ;) |
| 02:31.25 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's what i thought >8p |
| 02:31.52 | hyperChipmunk | now put down the tape measure |
| 02:31.56 | hyperChipmunk | you're not fooling anyone |
| 02:34.11 | syeren | nymbia: Ping. |
| 02:34.21 | syeren | ckknight: Nice Progress on PitBull :d |
| 02:34.31 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: kek, my addon is more of a specialty rather than something a standard UI needs. So I know where I stand well enough :P |
| 02:34.33 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:34.34 | nymbia | syeren: pong |
| 02:34.47 | syeren | I have a screenshot if you're interested! |
| 02:34.55 | nymbia | hit me |
| 02:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | ~lart nymbia |
| 02:35.06 | purl | gives nymbia a good seeing to |
| 02:35.12 | nymbia | hawyt |
| 02:35.16 | hyperChipmunk | oh, he done you good, boy! |
| 02:35.46 | Funkeh` | Antiarc wans't someone complaining about soulshatter threat being reduced on resists? |
| 02:35.57 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 02:36.00 | Antiarc | That's on the todo list |
| 02:36.08 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 02:36.09 | syeren | nymbia: http://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_061307_180022.jpg |
| 02:36.32 | Gagorian | Luckily, it resists pretty seldom :P |
| 02:36.35 | nymbia | syeren: that should be fixed, have you updated since last night? |
| 02:36.35 | Funkeh` | syeren: you picked a female dwarf and as so, deserve errors |
| 02:36.48 | syeren | Female Dwarves own :p |
| 02:36.49 | Antiarc | Anyone know where a yelling mob is? |
| 02:36.51 | Antiarc | Ooh, Mag |
| 02:36.53 | Antiarc | I can zone in |
| 02:36.57 | syeren | Yes Nymbia, that is a screenshot from yesterday :p |
| 02:37.03 | nekoh | heh |
| 02:37.10 | nymbia | syeren: lol |
| 02:37.14 | syeren | I think I got one from 425 today, didn't take a screenshot though :p |
| 02:37.24 | syeren | I tried giving you that screen yesterday, you wasn't on though ;p |
| 02:37.30 | syeren | Well.. around. |
| 02:37.51 | nymbia | syeren: well, i took that print out when i fixed it, so it better not still be happening ;) |
| 02:38.07 | Funkeh` | Antiarc well that was confusing |
| 02:38.34 | Gagorian | Finally my character looks cool again on PTR, shadoweave was terrible :( |
| 02:38.52 | Gagorian | http://www.saunalahti.fi/~larssaar/gagorian-PTR.jpg |
| 02:39.06 | syeren | Male Orc Warlocks can't look cool sorry :( |
| 02:39.10 | Funkeh` | you picked an orc and as so, deserve errors |
| 02:39.23 | Gagorian | Well, tbh, only orcs do justice to those shoulders |
| 02:39.30 | Gagorian | http://www.saunalahti.fi/~larssaar/gagorian-PTR2.jpg |
| 02:39.40 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: count yourself lucky; my gear is a mishmash of level 68-70 greens for the most part |
| 02:40.04 | hyperChipmunk | and honor reward shoulders |
| 02:40.37 | Gagorian | Well -nothing- is uglier than an orc male in full shadoweave (before robe change) and spellstrike hood visible. |
| 02:41.10 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Or just go say hello to kazzak, he likes to yell also :) |
| 02:41.25 | nymbia | who cares about looking cool when you've got hardiness?? |
| 02:41.27 | nymbia | ;) |
| 02:41.48 | Funkeh` | and gnomes offer that, nymbia? |
| 02:42.11 | Gagorian | Well caster orcs > all. |
| 02:42.17 | Gagorian | Pro racial etc |
| 02:42.54 | syeren | Priest Dwalves > ;) |
| 02:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian: i beg to differ |
| 02:43.02 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/stylish.png |
| 02:43.03 | Funkeh` | stoneform/fw > you |
| 02:43.30 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: metrosexual |
| 02:43.39 | hyperChipmunk | my pink bewts own you |
| 02:43.58 | Gagorian | You look like a cheap manwhore :( |
| 02:44.03 | hyperChipmunk | Netherstorm Greaves of the Monkey |
| 02:44.04 | hyperChipmunk | $$$ |
| 02:45.13 | Funkeh` | im just sad, 3/4 of my screenshot directory are addon errors i jsut realised i don't even have a good screen oh my char |
| 02:45.19 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39974 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 02:45.19 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:45.19 | CIA-22 | - Spell: koKR Update |
| 02:45.24 | Funkeh` | of* |
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| 02:45.26 | chutwig | curse you leotheras |
| 02:45.36 | chutwig | the random number generator is now being a douche bag |
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| 02:47.58 | hyperChipmunk | that's its default setting |
| 02:48.25 | Funkeh` | oh well have my 1k wand crit screenshot and stare at my ass http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4162/wowscrnshot061007211752ue3.jpg |
| 02:48.58 | Gagorian | mad :p |
| 02:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | and a nice ass it is, Funkeh` |
| 02:49.38 | Thrae | WoW's Number Generator Revealed! -- function RandomRoll(player) if SensePlayerReallyWantsItemRolledOn(player) then return rand(20,40) end return rand(0,100) end |
| 02:50.30 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r39975 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 02:50.30 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:50.30 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Spell |
| 02:50.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: nah, probably more like: http://xkcd.com/c221.html |
| 02:50.36 | Funkeh` | rand sounds awesome |
| 02:50.48 | hyperChipmunk | if ClothPlayerRollingOnPlate() then return 100 end |
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| 02:50.52 | Thrae | WoW's Number Generator Revealed! -- function RandomRoll(player) if SensePlayerReallyWantsItemRolledOn(player) then return rand(0,30) elseif PlayerHasNoUseForItem(player) then return(90,100) end return rand(0,100) end |
| 02:51.07 | hyperChipmunk | there ya go |
| 02:52.02 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39976 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Fix to :WipeRaidThreatOnMob() |
| 02:52.32 | Gagorian | ... Chaaange? |
| 02:52.57 | ckknight | ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-changes |
| 02:56.20 | Bibi | oh damn |
| 02:56.22 | Bibi | I so fucking pwn. |
| 02:56.33 | Funkeh` | really? |
| 02:56.38 | Thorgard^2 | Finally figured out how to tie your shoes, huh? |
| 02:56.46 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk says you don't so im curious |
| 02:56.48 | cs-cam | you misspelled "own". |
| 02:56.48 | Bibi | omg omg omg I just love my superior human intelligence |
| 02:57.06 | Bibi | Sometimes, I cache my index.php and export an index.html from it, to prevent the server from crashing |
| 02:57.27 | Bibi | but because of the weird .html caching on most browsers, I change it back to an auto redirect once it's done |
| 02:57.50 | Bibi | 4 days ago, I went to bed, and decided to change the auto redirect back to the "normal" URL of the site |
| 02:58.04 | Bibi | I redirected to www.mmo-champion.com instead of www.mmo-champion.com/index.php and went to bed. |
| 02:58.10 | Bibi | people have been looping on my homepage for 4 years. |
| 02:58.13 | Bibi | (hours :/) |
| 02:58.33 | Funkeh` | you clearly rock |
| 02:58.42 | Thrae | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110412475&postId=1103928236&sid=1#0 |
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| 02:59.06 | Funkeh` | lol Thrae |
| 02:59.25 | Thrae | Heh, forums timing out on me now... |
| 02:59.52 | Thorgard^2 | WoW just stopped responding. Pewp. |
| 03:00.02 | Antiarc | Man, Blood Furnace is a nice little farming spot |
| 03:00.04 | nekoh | Antiarc: got a sec? i've done some changes to the mobnametranslation stuff, wanna see (and comment on usability :P)? -> http://ace.pastey.net/56880 (though it's drycoded and may have some syntax errors) |
| 03:00.09 | Antiarc | Sure! |
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| 03:00.26 | Antiarc | 4 super heal pots, 2 stacks of blinding powder, and a shard for 15 minutes work |
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| 03:02.36 | Funkeh` | according to bigwigs cwowaddon.com is the place to be hyperChipmunk |
| 03:02.57 | Antiarc | nekoh: Do you have a proper svn patch file for that, rather than just a diff? |
| 03:03.03 | Antiarc | Should make it a lot easier for me to look at :) |
| 03:03.13 | nekoh | how'd i do that? :P |
| 03:03.28 | Antiarc | svn diff Threat-1.0.lua > Threat-1.0.patch |
| 03:03.31 | Antiarc | I think that should do it |
| 03:03.56 | Antiarc | Mostly it includes filenames along with line markers so I can just patch it on top of my working copy |
| 03:04.19 | Funkeh` | i thought you can make a .patch from pastey |
| 03:04.23 | NeoTron | thanks for the entertainment in the ktm comment |
| 03:04.33 | nekoh | okay one moment |
| 03:04.44 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: It's just a file diff, doesn't contain the index info |
| 03:04.55 | Funkeh` | bleh |
| 03:05.30 | Antiarc | Nevermind, got it |
| 03:07.00 | nekoh | http://ace.pastey.net/56882 - bleh it also reverts the changes you made with your last commit :X |
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| 03:07.33 | Antiarc | No biggie, I got it applied :) |
| 03:08.49 | Antiarc | Looks like you just refactored the translation code out into its own method, then call that from both MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REPLY and MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REQUEST? |
| 03:09.24 | nekoh | yea, but also added the convertion from old mobhashes to new ones |
| 03:09.32 | nekoh | if we didnt had the information before |
| 03:09.50 | nekoh | and got data for not yet translated mobs |
| 03:11.02 | nekoh | i guess "data[foreignMobHash]" could also be nil'ed ther |
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| 03:12.08 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39977 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Autolocalization fixes from Nekoh |
| 03:12.44 | GanJa | Anyone around who knows how to work with button layout? More specifically how to give buttons the ability to change to Dreamlayout and back. |
| 03:17.29 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r39978 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: Added different colors per debuff type |
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| 03:18.03 | art3mis | hrm |
| 03:18.12 | art3mis | does pitbull have a global settings thing? |
| 03:18.16 | art3mis | like for size? |
| 03:18.37 | art3mis | or is it just a set for each type of thingy |
| 03:18.37 | Ominous | how do you make a dewdrop appear on the curser ? |
| 03:22.09 | Roartindon | Ominous: Use the cursorX, true, cursorY, true parameters |
| 03:22.28 | Roartindon | Dewdrop:Open(........, 'cursorX', true, 'cursorY', true) |
| 03:23.10 | art3mis | hey roar |
| 03:23.19 | art3mis | rapidcast works for channeled right? |
| 03:23.23 | Ominous | Roartindon, thanks |
| 03:23.45 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r39979 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: Now menu appears on cursor |
| 03:23.46 | art3mis | and i just need to macro mindflay for it to cast right? |
| 03:24.04 | Soulless | is there a script command i can use if my ress accept frame doens't show up |
| 03:24.15 | Soulless | like a command to accept a rez or to show the rez frame |
| 03:24.43 | Kalman| | Soulless: Yes. Check the wiki, it's on there. |
| 03:24.57 | Soulless | any idea what section? |
| 03:25.15 | Kalman| | Just search for Resu or something like that. |
| 03:25.29 | Kalman| | I think it's /script AcceptResurrect(); but I may well be wrong. |
| 03:26.31 | Cryect | Kalman|: I'm at a blank whats it called when you layer data on top of each other in a graph? |
| 03:26.41 | Kalman| | Er, a stacked graph? |
| 03:26.43 | Kalman| | Or? |
| 03:27.10 | Kalman| | Picture? |
| 03:27.23 | Aenslaed | has anyone here been experiencing alot more critical errors? |
| 03:27.34 | Cryect | yeah stacked graph I think was it |
| 03:27.35 | Aenslaed | the last day or so. |
| 03:28.12 | Cryect | have the code in now for filled line graphs |
| 03:28.28 | Cryect | so figure I would implement the code for them |
| 03:28.37 | ckknight | Xuerian: gotta fight the good fight |
| 03:29.01 | Kalman| | Cryect: Stacked area graph is the term you're looking for, since filled lines are technically area graphs. |
| 03:29.46 | Antiarc | Hahaha, awesome |
| 03:29.47 | Antiarc | So I'm in AV |
| 03:29.51 | Antiarc | And I do a party revision query |
| 03:29.58 | Antiarc | And there are two people in my AV group using ThreatLib |
| 03:30.12 | Kalman| | Critical mass approaches! |
| 03:30.13 | Cryect | do a bg revision query then |
| 03:30.19 | Xuerian | ckknight: Amen. It's sortof fun to superimpose it over the exorbitant vortex scene of PotC, though. |
| 03:30.39 | ckknight | PotC? |
| 03:30.44 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 03:31.10 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Ask whether they have omen/assessment/violation installed, or whether they use Pitbull/Aloft :) |
| 03:31.11 | Xuerian | ckknight, you've just come very close to the edge >.o |
| 03:31.29 | Xuerian | Pirates of the Caribbean! >.< |
| 03:31.49 | Roartindon | Antiarc: I've run into quite a few ThreatLib users who are using Pitbull/Aloft, without really knowing it |
| 03:31.50 | Xuerian | Do not question my fanboyism. >_> |
| 03:32.03 | ckknight | Antiarc: cool. |
| 03:32.16 | Antiarc | BG's already over |
| 03:32.21 | Gagorian | PotC 2 and 3 forces a garbage collect |
| 03:32.43 | Antiarc | Hm. I keep getting LEFT_COMBAT with a sender of "2" |
| 03:32.45 | Antiarc | Any ideas? |
| 03:32.57 | Xuerian | Gagorian: True, but they're still good =P |
| 03:33.24 | Gagorian | Maybe if they were combined, and half-length |
| 03:33.28 | Gagorian | ! |
| 03:33.52 | Xuerian | They're popcorn movies. :P |
| 03:34.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: they were vaugely entertaining, i'd hesitate to say "good" though ;) |
| 03:34.19 | NightHawkTheSane | vaguely, even |
| 03:34.35 | Gagorian | That chest chasing in potc 2 was just utter shit :( |
| 03:35.06 | Xuerian | POTC IS SERIOUS BUSINESS! |
| 03:35.07 | Xuerian | XD |
| 03:36.18 | Xuerian | Gagorian: Were you expecting some sort of intelligent tongue-in-cheek comedy, or slapstick? |
| 03:36.45 | Gagorian | I was expecting something watchable. DERP! |
| 03:36.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I think we were hoping something more like the first movey |
| 03:36.55 | NightHawkTheSane | movie |
| 03:36.58 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus i can't type tonight |
| 03:37.04 | Gagorian | Indeed. |
| 03:37.17 | Gagorian | It wasn't great but still, enjoyable. |
| 03:37.32 | NightHawkTheSane | agreed |
| 03:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm just glad I didn't spend money on them |
| 03:38.00 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, you've got a good point there. I think it's *similar* to the Metroid series, where people rebelled at Prime. It wasn't like the first one, you're perfectly right. Different scope, focus, and result. But still enjoyable if you don't make "like the first" the only criteria :p |
| 03:38.02 | NightHawkTheSane | (<3's the internets) |
| 03:38.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: well, its not just different scope. To me, the sequels really felt like they were trying hard to reproduce the things that made the original so good, but just missed the mark. tried to hard or something. |
| 03:39.01 | NightHawkTheSane | lots of sequels do that, though |
| 03:39.08 | Gagorian | Plainly it was just too long and too PG-13. |
| 03:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | plus, the whole "lets pull an empire strikes back" is so lame. |
| 03:39.54 | Xuerian | I'll settle for "still enjoyable" in this argument :P |
| 03:40.03 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 03:40.13 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, I enjoyed watching them. |
| 03:40.28 | NightHawkTheSane | But i wouldn't pay money for them. |
| 03:40.29 | Xuerian | You're not taking away my pirate outfit, though! |
| 03:40.37 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldn't dream of it. |
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| 03:40.51 | Gagorian | Xuerian: Ninjas > pirates. |
| 03:41.20 | Roartindon | heh.. reading the klhtm war... the more kenco writes, the stupider he looks |
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| 03:41.26 | Xuerian | Gagorian: Ninja are better on land, pirates are better on water. If you want to compare each out of their element, be my guest :p |
| 03:41.30 | Roartindon | and immature |
| 03:41.32 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Ayep. |
| 03:41.38 | Cryect | Ninja Pirates~! |
| 03:41.50 | Xuerian | Cryect: Shh, don't reveal the truth to them! >.> |
| 03:43.24 | Roartindon | Xuerian: Whether he's right or not is no longer relevant; he just looks like an immature dick |
| 03:43.26 | Xuerian | I have to doff my pirate hat to ckknight though, for keeping the most level-headed posts of the whoel thing :p |
| 03:43.42 | Gagorian | Xuerian: What about the fact that ninjas can walk on water? |
| 03:44.00 | Xuerian | Gagorian: Can't ignore that, but how far do you intend to walk on water? 0_o |
| 03:44.10 | Xuerian | Sure you can do it and do it well, but for ... days? :p |
| 03:44.19 | Gagorian | Possibly! |
| 03:44.31 | Xuerian | Possibly. |
| 03:44.31 | NightHawkTheSane | you dont need to do it for days, pirates have to land eventually |
| 03:44.33 | Gagorian | Weeks? Now that's a good question. |
| 03:44.41 | ckknight | Xuerian: it really does make it seem like I'm taking the high road and he's just a prissy bitch |
| 03:44.53 | ckknight | but if I were to call him a prissy bitch, the tables would be turned |
| 03:45.08 | ZealotOnAStick | So . . . |
| 03:45.21 | ZealotOnAStick | We're trying this crazy, boring as all fuck, strat for Al'ar that our GL cooked up. |
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| 03:45.52 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Yeeep. Granted, we're (they're) serving him *in his own addon's thread*, but nonetheless. |
| 03:45.54 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Which is? |
| 03:46.01 | Xuerian | ckknight: Of course. |
| 03:46.02 | ZealotOnAStick | He wants us to collect around 25 embers in P1, just tanked by druids off to the side, for us to aoe down at the beginning of P2, to hurt al'ar for . . . lots. |
| 03:46.08 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: Does it involve bringing his hp down to 0 before the raid is dead? |
| 03:46.21 | ZealotOnAStick | So we're chasing him around WANDING him down (except for the 2 SPs) |
| 03:46.30 | Kalman| | ckknight: The apology was a really nice touch, I thought. |
| 03:46.32 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick:... wanding? |
| 03:46.35 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick |
| 03:46.37 | ckknight | Kalman|: I thought so too |
| 03:46.39 | Roartindon | Did he get all you guys to spec improved wands? |
| 03:46.39 | Gagorian | W T F |
| 03:46.46 | ckknight | but it was a half-hearted apology |
| 03:46.52 | ckknight | like, I'm sorry, but here's where I was right |
| 03:47.00 | Kalman| | Oh, I know. But it makes him look like more of an ass when he goes right back to being one. |
| 03:47.03 | ckknight | now you're a bitch, go blow yourself |
| 03:47.08 | ckknight | bam! |
| 03:47.11 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:47.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, I'm a warlock . . . so, no imp wand talent |
| 03:47.35 | ZealotOnAStick | I've been cheating. |
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| 03:47.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Casting rank 1 dots. |
| 03:48.06 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: Now the question is.. Why just not kill him like everyone else? |
| 03:48.15 | ZealotOnAStick | so far, about 22 minutes of wanding, and he's at 30% |
| 03:48.19 | Xuerian | ZealotOnAStick: Does this strategy involve calling his mother nasty names until he cries? |
| 03:48.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Gagorian: I've asked exactly the same question. |
| 03:48.49 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: Have you verified that p1 adds bring his hp down in p2? |
| 03:48.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes. |
| 03:48.59 | Gagorian | k |
| 03:49.09 | Gagorian | Otherwise it'd be hilarious :P |
| 03:49.31 | tsigo | they do, but still |
| 03:49.38 | tsigo | kill him _and_ kill the adds :P |
| 03:49.39 | Xuerian | ... more.. halarious. |
| 03:50.13 | Gagorian | Still.. even if you kill him like that, he can't be serious about using that every TK clear, can he? |
| 03:50.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Supposedly, D&T did it this way once. |
| 03:50.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Why, I don't know . . . |
| 03:50.46 | tsigo | and 30 minutes of p1 is gonna make for some long learning attempts for p2 |
| 03:51.07 | Kalman| | ZealotOnAStick: To see if anyone was stupid enough to follow in their footsteps. |
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| 03:51.35 | Sole | yo |
| 03:51.38 | Gagorian | ho |
| 03:51.47 | Gagorian | I mean.. hi. |
| 03:52.31 | Antiarc | Alterac Valley is proving to be -really- useful for debugging ThreatLib |
| 03:52.38 | Antiarc | Since I can be in a raid and slack off and nobody cares |
| 03:52.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39980 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - optimization when not sorting. (Thanks, Jerry!) |
| 03:52.53 | ckknight | Antiarc: hehe |
| 03:53.02 | ZealotOnAStick | And now one of the tanks fucked up and missed picking him up after a quills. |
| 03:53.17 | ZealotOnAStick | so 27 minutes is fucked. |
| 03:53.21 | Gagorian | :D |
| 03:53.42 | ZealotOnAStick | but at least he now admits this isn't viable. |
| 03:53.57 | Gagorian | paste him the orly owl |
| 03:55.02 | Gagorian | At least you can consolidate yourself with the fact that it's a pretty good fight for locks when doing it properly :p |
| 03:55.03 | Antiarc | ckknight: Can LEFT_COMBAT trigger on non-registered prefixes? |
| 03:56.01 | ckknight | for Comm? |
| 03:56.23 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 03:56.42 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 03:56.48 | ckknight | there probably should be an API for that. |
| 03:57.15 | Antiarc | I suspect I'm getting a memoization collision |
| 03:57.26 | Antiarc | And I'm getting LEFT_COMBAT called for non-Threat messages or something |
| 03:57.29 | ZealotOnAStick | when doing it properly, IE both Sunday and Tuesday, I was topping the meters consistently. ONE time our best Shadow Priest beat me by a little. |
| 03:58.23 | Antiarc | Yeah, got it with a nil prefix. *boggle* |
| 03:58.43 | Gagorian | I've got pretty nice gear so nobody can touch me on proper fights now. Did 700k on al'ar, 200k more than the next. |
| 03:59.03 | Antiarc | Aha, nevermind, got it. |
| 03:59.38 | ZealotOnAStick | on the other hand, wand skill is maxed now. |
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| 04:03.29 | ckknight | Antiarc: hrm? |
| 04:05.34 | Sole | if I call a return in the middle of a loop, do I still have to break the loop to stop it? |
| 04:05.50 | Cryect | no |
| 04:05.56 | Antiarc | I was incorrectly using PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLED |
| 04:06.00 | Sole | thought so, thank you |
| 04:06.02 | Cryect | how can you break a loop you returned out of anyways? |
| 04:06.02 | Antiarc | It passes an int as arg1, for whatever reason |
| 04:06.18 | Sole | my brain has weird ways of justifying weird things |
| 04:06.22 | Antiarc | You can only call return at the end of a block |
| 04:06.24 | Antiarc | FYI |
| 04:06.41 | Antiarc | It really annoys me when my guildmates have a newer version of Threat than me |
| 04:06.46 | Cryect | Yeah otherwise the compiler bitches :-p |
| 04:06.52 | Cryect | haha Antiarc |
| 04:07.01 | Sole | block - if statement, loop, function, etc? |
| 04:07.04 | Sole | just so we're on the same page |
| 04:07.13 | Cryect | block is anything that ends with end |
| 04:07.22 | Gagorian | Sole: Call do return end |
| 04:07.34 | Gagorian | if you do it before end of a block |
| 04:08.35 | Thrae | Antiarc: Shirik has some code which uses encryption to update RDX modules over guild, battlegroups, raid, etc. |
| 04:09.01 | Thrae | For something as communicative and massive as Threat and mods like Assessment, this may be good |
| 04:09.05 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:09.17 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: Err.. no, I never intend to update anyone else's mods remotely |
| 04:09.39 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: I know how I could do it; I never intend to do it though :) |
| 04:09.47 | Thrae | Roartindon_: Why haven't you renamed "Assessment" to "Anal"?! |
| 04:09.58 | Sole | ^ I second this motion |
| 04:10.00 | Thrae | You'd get 2x downloads and testers! |
| 04:10.06 | Cryect | I wish sometimes WoW could solve the halting problem when I screw up a loop :-p |
| 04:10.09 | Sole | lol |
| 04:10.12 | Sole | 2x? more like 20x |
| 04:10.14 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: lol.. imagine the fubar icon for that |
| 04:10.27 | Thrae | I'm serious! |
| 04:10.30 | Sole | ( Y ) |
| 04:10.32 | Sole | ^ icon |
| 04:10.47 | Thrae | Anyway, Shirik says his updating module is secure |
| 04:10.55 | Shirik | albeit not finished |
| 04:11.05 | Thrae | Shirik: Is it lib'd? |
| 04:11.07 | Gagorian | Cryect: Yar, infinite loops ftl :( |
| 04:11.16 | Shirik | no but I may consider it afterwards |
| 04:11.46 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: I'm scared at trying to support users that would just use the mod because of that name :) |
| 04:11.47 | Thrae | Please do. Addons like Assessment could really use it, in my opinion, as well as other addons which rely so much on addon communication. |
| 04:12.07 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: Assessment has no communication code in it at all |
| 04:12.21 | Thrae | Roartindon_: Oh, I thought it supported sync'ing? |
| 04:12.39 | Roartindon_ | Thrae: Nope, it doesn't, and if it does, it will be violation protocol style |
| 04:12.43 | Sole | does anybody have some recommendations for video editing software, in particular for visual effects |
| 04:12.48 | Thrae | Well then Violation |
| 04:13.17 | Thrae | Sole: VirtuaDub |
| 04:13.32 | Sole | Thrae: thanks, I'll check it out |
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| 04:15.26 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r39981 10Cartographer/ (25 files in 13 dirs): Cartographer: updated zhTW localization |
| 04:16.25 | Cryect | Stacked graphs don't work quite right if you let something add together that has negatives :-p |
| 04:17.51 | Roartindon_ | Cryect: Then you offset the "zero" point by the maximum negative? |
| 04:18.24 | Cryect | Could but I can't think of any real great reason to let you stack negatives so just going to floor them |
| 04:18.37 | Cryect | I mean lets say you are looking athte combined TPS (not that it means anything) |
| 04:18.52 | Cryect | do you really want negatives subtracting |
| 04:18.54 | Cryect | maybe you do |
| 04:19.04 | Cryect | but Threat is the only value that can go negative |
| 04:19.16 | Cryect | and well I can't think of a good reason to stack threat :-p |
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| 04:21.26 | Cryect | Also my filled graph drawer doesn't handle the case of negatives correctly (already knew that in advance but still interesting to see) |
| 04:22.02 | Diao | how do you update a mod through wow o_O i thought you can only write to SV |
| 04:22.14 | Roartindon_ | Diao: loadstring() |
| 04:22.20 | Roartindon_ | and send the new code via a string |
| 04:22.38 | Roartindon_ | It'll only be valid for that session, unless you store the module code string in the SVs |
| 04:22.54 | Diao | so it's temporary? |
| 04:22.57 | Thrae | In Shirik's case, it undergoes 128-bit encryption with private keys. |
| 04:23.02 | Shirik | 256 |
| 04:23.09 | Wobwork | well, it'd be temporary only if you crashed out of the session |
| 04:23.13 | Thrae | Sorry, 256-bit, since 128-bit can be hacked so easily :D |
| 04:23.18 | Shirik | 256 bit SHA-1, 2048 bit keys |
| 04:23.28 | Wobwork | since I assume that the loadstring would be saved to SV and loaded up on next run |
| 04:23.57 | Cryect | good since they just cracked 1024 bit essentially with 7 months of a lot computing power :-p |
| 04:23.57 | Kalman| | So the addon basically becomes a loader stub for loadstring() and the code itself is in the string? |
| 04:24.01 | hyperChipmunk | or you could just download a new one |
| 04:24.22 | Roartindon_ | hyperChipmunk: Which is why I won't ever do it in my addons |
| 04:24.39 | Wobwork | Too much leeway for corruption |
| 04:24.42 | Wobwork | data |
| 04:24.50 | Cryect | I can think of one situation where it would have been really great for me |
| 04:24.53 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: It's a temporary fix. Say you join a PUG, etc. |
| 04:24.59 | Cryect | When I was doing boss mods in Naxx |
| 04:25.02 | Roartindon_ | I think if everyone started doing it, you'd end up with this viral mess of addon versions around |
| 04:25.05 | Shirik | it is most definitely not intended to replace regular updates |
| 04:25.07 | Cryect | would have been great if I could have pushed code to my guild |
| 04:25.09 | Shirik | however, for critical sections of code |
| 04:25.19 | Shirik | kinda like... critical updates only |
| 04:25.26 | Shirik | trying to support only patches will be insane |
| 04:25.32 | Shirik | the code would become completely disorganized |
| 04:25.33 | Thrae | It's not meant to replace updating the addons, it's meant as a temporary fix for critical bugs or changes when you can't control everyone's version |
| 04:25.35 | Shirik | impossible to work with |
| 04:25.35 | Wobwork | "Ace has detected you have 456 uploads ready" |
| 04:25.43 | Cryect | I did like 16 release of our Kel'Thuzad boss addon over the 3 days of working on him |
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| 04:26.50 | GanJa | Anyone around who knows how to work with button layout? More specifically how to give buttons the ability to change to Dreamlayout and back. Trying to add it into an addon I'm making.... |
| 04:27.04 | Thrae | "Ace has detected your addons have 1242 patches ready. Organizing...organization complete. Downloading 12KB out of 30024KB..." |
| 04:27.41 | Cryect | http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8961/stackedum4.jpg now to work on the interface for setting up comparisons |
| 04:27.52 | Roartindon_ | Cryect: At that stage, you're probably better just developing local and sending out custom messages/bars |
| 04:28.10 | Gagorian | Cryect: Nice. Give anti-aliasing! |
| 04:28.13 | Cryect | Roartindon_: My boss mods were much more sophisticated than BigWigs |
| 04:28.46 | hyperChipmunk | well aren't you just awesome |
| 04:29.02 | Cryect | well thats why I couldn't do what he said I meant |
| 04:29.07 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 04:29.15 | Cryect | Gagorian: Tell Blizzard to let me enable mipmapping and you get free AA |
| 04:29.17 | hyperChipmunk | jus' givin' you a hard time |
| 04:29.38 | Cryect | Blizzard took out most the special functionality etc that I used |
| 04:29.47 | hyperChipmunk | what boss mods did you work on? |
| 04:29.51 | Cryect | IMBA |
| 04:30.02 | hyperChipmunk | never heard of it |
| 04:30.05 | hyperChipmunk | must've sucked |
| 04:30.06 | Thrae | My addons can make you walk on water. |
| 04:30.13 | Thrae | If you're a Shaman. |
| 04:30.22 | Thrae | And are the proper level. And have the mats. |
| 04:30.44 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39982 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: |
| 04:30.44 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_Naxxramas: Horsemen: |
| 04:30.44 | CIA-22 | - sync horse deaths |
| 04:30.44 | CIA-22 | - fix that really old bug of starting with a mark number > 1 because people couldn't wipe properly |
| 04:30.51 | Cryect | they were basically only naxx based addons |
| 04:31.03 | Thrae | Who the hell runs Naxx anymore? :D |
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| 04:31.26 | NightHawkTheSane | a surprising number, apparently |
| 04:31.31 | Cryect | I know my guild did a run last weekend with a small number of people |
| 04:31.43 | Cryect | didn't have enough to actually do 4H though |
| 04:32.42 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 04:32.49 | hyperChipmunk | it took you 3 seconds to kill a toad? |
| 04:33.05 | sdouble | heh |
| 04:33.06 | Funkeh` | toads dodge a lot :/ |
| 04:33.18 | Cryect | 3 seconds is I guess how long combat lasts :-p |
| 04:33.26 | sedatedChipmunk | uh huh |
| 04:33.35 | sdouble | on my 46 shaman, the rats by the stormwind bank dodge my chain lightning all the time, it's hilarious |
| 04:33.57 | sedatedChipmunk | since when can you dodge spells |
| 04:34.02 | sdouble | doge = resist |
| 04:34.09 | Cryect | rats are special |
| 04:34.18 | sdouble | sorry, he said dodge and I got excited about dodging |
| 04:34.51 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39983 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Show party revision menu option added. Fix for bar colors when you move crap around in combat. |
| 04:35.00 | ckknight | alright, back |
| 04:35.45 | sedatedChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.33 | Funkeh` | harsh |
| 04:36.48 | Cryect | nobody cares |
| 04:36.51 | Antiarc | ckknight: Still investigating, but I'm not sure bandage ticks are being parsed as heals |
| 04:37.01 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:37.21 | ulic | bandaging generates threat? |
| 04:37.24 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 04:37.29 | Antiarc | It's a heal |
| 04:37.31 | NightHawkTheSane | well, theh ealing from it does |
| 04:37.44 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39984 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Extra debug messages, fixed party revision query |
| 04:37.56 | NightHawkTheSane | go go bloodrage->bandage? |
| 04:38.42 | Antiarc | I'm in AV, I'll go aggro something |
| 04:40.37 | Antiarc | Looks like it might just be a Threat display bug |
| 04:40.39 | Antiarc | Err |
| 04:40.39 | Antiarc | Omen |
| 04:42.11 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: they are parsed as heals |
| 04:42.21 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: they're showing up in Assessment, as a heal, but not if you're full health |
| 04:42.26 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: Only if you're below |
| 04:42.35 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: (bandages, that is) |
| 04:42.39 | Diao | which is how it should be? :P |
| 04:43.50 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 04:43.57 | Funkeh` | since over healing doesn't cause threat |
| 04:44.38 | Cryect | silly Antiarc! |
| 04:44.50 | Cryect | oh no have the Kenco's stupidified him |
| 04:46.34 | ulic | ckknight: so what's the deal with Combo Point icons & the text number, I couldn't find a way to turn off the text number. |
| 04:46.51 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: in ThreatClassModuleCore, instead of having eg. parseHeal which handles parser1.1 and parser3, would it make more sense to have parse11Heal and pase30Heal. |
| 04:47.08 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: the parser30Heal can take advantage of Parser's already calculated overhealAmount |
| 04:47.14 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: reducing redundant calculations |
| 04:48.05 | ckknight | ulic: um, you hide it? |
| 04:48.11 | ckknight | "Combo text" |
| 04:48.34 | ckknight | Antiarc: Roartindon_'s right, Parser-3.0 handles overhealing for you |
| 04:48.51 | ulic | hmm, maybe I've just overlooked it all this time, I just logged out my rogue, I'll look again tomorrow |
| 04:49.20 | Antiarc | Oh, good, I like that. |
| 04:49.30 | Antiarc | Parser-1.1 compat doesn't work right now anyhow |
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| 04:49.34 | Antiarc | afaik |
| 04:50.09 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: Well, I'm just looking at parseHeal, and I think it would be about half the number of lines if you assumed parser30Heal |
| 04:50.19 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: and a separate codepath for parser11 compat |
| 04:50.20 | Antiarc | Heh, you're probably right |
| 04:51.07 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39985 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
| 04:55.05 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 04:55.16 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: if unitID check on line 561 of ThreatClassModuleCore is redundant, due to not unitID returning about 10 lines above |
| 04:56.43 | Antiarc | Thanks - I'm refactoring in there as is |
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| 05:00.47 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39986 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Adds stacking to the graph window (intended for data comparison which isn't in yet) |
| 05:01.18 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39987 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Refactored parseHeal into parseHeal11 and parseHeal30. |
| 05:01.42 | Cryect | hmmm Antiarc is your commit being slow as well? |
| 05:02.08 | Cryect | I see CIA-22 saw it but yeah |
| 05:05.08 | Antiarc | I usually start the commit then tab back to code |
| 05:05.10 | Antiarc | So not sure |
| 05:05.42 | Cryect | heh I was just browsing webpages and noticed it was still going like a minute later |
| 05:07.21 | Birdemani | so apparently whatever change was done to BT3 has fucked up page swapping for warriors |
| 05:08.13 | Birdemani | whilie i am in combat and swap stances it goes to the wrong bar and then doesnt reset |
| 05:08.36 | Birdemani | and reloading the UI doesnt work |
| 05:08.52 | Birdemani | hrm |
| 05:09.02 | Birdemani | noticing that autobar blanked out as well |
| 05:09.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39988 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add option to change frame strata. |
| 05:10.43 | Birdemani | anyone got ideas on this? |
| 05:10.57 | Birdemani | really annoying having to restart my game every time i swap stances while in combat |
| 05:11.40 | ckknight_ | wipe your WTF |
| 05:11.48 | sedatedChipmunk | wtf |
| 05:11.57 | sedatedChipmunk | i have to do math to edit the wiki |
| 05:12.03 | sedatedChipmunk | ~9+4 |
| 05:12.04 | purl | 13 |
| 05:12.07 | sedatedChipmunk | whew |
| 05:12.11 | sedatedChipmunk | thank god for cheating |
| 05:12.20 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39989 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Changes X gridlines to be based on width of the graph not the widest dataset being shown |
| 05:13.24 | Birdemani | i need to remove all my SV to fix this? |
| 05:13.27 | Birdemani | why is that |
| 05:13.40 | Roartindon_ | Antiarc: type(threat) ~= "number" check is kind of redundant, as if it's not, the error will occur the line before when the subtraction is attempted :) |
| 05:13.50 | Roartindon_ | for parseHeal30 |
| 05:14.01 | Antiarc | Heh, indeed |
| 05:14.11 | Roartindon_ | if you want o check the values, the check should be on info.amount and info.overhealAmount... but.. I'd be tempted to leave the check out altogether |
| 05:14.37 | Antiarc | I should probably wrap that in a pcall |
| 05:14.41 | Antiarc | Just to be safe |
| 05:14.53 | Roartindon_ | Hmm? the API specifies that it will always be 0 or a positive number |
| 05:15.01 | Antiarc | So very very joking |
| 05:15.02 | Roartindon_ | if it isn't, then it's the responsibility of parser3 to fix it imho :) |
| 05:15.32 | sedatedChipmunk | Antiarc: wow, learn to program |
| 05:15.34 | Roartindon_ | <-- isn't awake enough to realise the jab at Kenco :) |
| 05:15.47 | sedatedChipmunk | you forgot to add profiling code, you mental midgit |
| 05:16.23 | xystic | Kenco? |
| 05:16.38 | sedatedChipmunk | KTM author |
| 05:16.41 | ckknight | Antiarc: looks like Mathematics isn't your strong suit. |
| 05:16.49 | sedatedChipmunk | and professional jerktard |
| 05:16.52 | Gagorian | xystic: The guru of all addon makers, his addons are flawless |
| 05:16.58 | Gagorian | Seriously I want to be just like him |
| 05:17.07 | ckknight | hey, I claimed guru long ago. |
| 05:17.12 | xystic | ah... what server does he play on, incidentally? |
| 05:17.21 | ckknight | dunno |
| 05:17.21 | Gagorian | ckknight: But you dont enforce it like Kenco does |
| 05:17.25 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight: guru? ha! more like...Ragu |
| 05:17.26 | NightHawkTheSane | sedatedChipmunk: if he was pro, he'd probably be good at it, he's not, really |
| 05:17.32 | ckknight | mmm.. ragu |
| 05:17.47 | shieldb | kenco plays on lightninghoof |
| 05:17.48 | Jaxon | Hmm, Baggins can't do other character inventory viewing. |
| 05:18.03 | sedatedChipmunk | no |
| 05:18.05 | shieldb | hence, KLHThreatMeter was "Kenco - LightningHoof" Threatmeter |
| 05:18.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: no, it doesn't, doesn't do bank viewing eitehr |
| 05:18.14 | sedatedChipmunk | because it's a mod for VIEWING YOUR BAGS |
| 05:18.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: sanity2 is a good compliment to baggins |
| 05:18.20 | Antiarc | ~kenco |
| 05:18.27 | sedatedChipmunk | oh dear |
| 05:18.37 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: aha, thanks. |
| 05:18.40 | NightHawkTheSane | shieldb: to be honest, I always wondered what that stood for |
| 05:18.43 | Roartindon_ | Heh.. what has purl been programmed to say....... |
| 05:18.48 | ckknight | to the armory! |
| 05:18.53 | sedatedChipmunk | srsly? |
| 05:18.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "purl: error, infinite loop, too many onupdate functions." |
| 05:18.59 | sedatedChipmunk | omgz |
| 05:19.07 | ckknight | damn |
| 05:19.09 | Starinnia | Antiarc, I was looking at the MD handler in Threat.. couldn't tell if it accounts for focus target casting since its self.currentTarget |
| 05:19.18 | ckknight | no Kencos on lightninghoof |
| 05:19.33 | ckknight | granted, he may have transferred |
| 05:19.39 | sedatedChipmunk | well only one kenco is 70 |
| 05:19.40 | ckknight | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/search.xml?searchQuery=kenco&searchType=characters |
| 05:19.45 | sedatedChipmunk | and he's a hunter, go figure |
| 05:19.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok . . . |
| 05:19.54 | ckknight | he has no guild, sedatedChipmunk |
| 05:20.00 | sedatedChipmunk | so? |
| 05:20.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Finally done with raiding and administrivia crap after. |
| 05:20.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Now I can go read the comments on curse. |
| 05:20.26 | Kalman| | Dershivar on Aman'thul, according to his EJ profile. |
| 05:20.39 | Kalman| | human warrior, which fits with what I recollect. |
| 05:20.51 | Antiarc | Starinnia: It should, since currentTarget is set from the event which specifies who it was cast on |
| 05:21.27 | sedatedChipmunk | Kalman|: also in the same guild as the level 60 kenco |
| 05:21.35 | Starinnia | okay, asking because it seemed a little buggy in Gruul's tonight, sometimes the threat would redirect, and other times it would go to both of us |
| 05:23.27 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39990 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Warrior.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Removed an extraneous assertation. Added additional threat for Hamstring. Ranks 1-3 are guessed via linear interpolation - if anyone has threat data on them, it'd be appreciated. |
| 05:24.35 | Antiarc | I'll do some more testing on it then. |
| 05:25.23 | ckknight | I want Kenco to respond |
| 05:25.34 | sedatedChipmunk | no wonder he's such a spoiled jerk; he's a MT |
| 05:25.39 | ckknight | it's like having a bunny |
| 05:25.43 | sedatedChipmunk | it all makes sense now |
| 05:25.46 | ckknight | and putting him in a cage |
| 05:25.48 | ckknight | and shaking |
| 05:25.55 | Starinnia | if there's any thing I can do to help test it, let me know plz |
| 05:25.55 | Roartindon_ | He's a MT, with reasonable gear.. 2 piece T5, couple of drops from SSC |
| 05:25.56 | ckknight | until it does something amusing |
| 05:25.59 | ckknight | then shaking again |
| 05:26.04 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 05:26.33 | sedatedChipmunk | he's actually got more HP than I do |
| 05:26.53 | ckknight | it'd be funny if someone infiltrated his guild and got them to switch to Threat-1.0 |
| 05:26.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon_: you don't have to be intelligent to have good gear. |
| 05:26.55 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:27.08 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 05:27.09 | NightHawkTheSane | or even comptetant. |
| 05:27.10 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (n=nuoHep@outer.test.e-larek.ru) |
| 05:27.19 | NightHawkTheSane | competent |
| 05:27.29 | ckknight | Kenco: http://darklegacycomics.com/95.html |
| 05:27.40 | sedatedChipmunk | he's an officer |
| 05:27.45 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 05:27.50 | sedatedChipmunk | the respec one? |
| 05:27.50 | Roartindon_ | NightHawkTheSane: Never brought intelligence into the question; it was more the spoiled jerk fact :) |
| 05:28.10 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: "My pants are broken" one |
| 05:28.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon_: yeah, just saying. :) |
| 05:30.00 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, i shouldn't start reading comics while i'm watching a movie. >< |
| 05:30.15 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight: yea |
| 05:32.25 | xystic | Yeah, I thought as much (that he was Dershivar) |
| 05:32.30 | xystic | nice guy in-game :) |
| 05:32.35 | sedatedChipmunk | Donald the Keyturner |
| 05:33.39 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39991 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added "Spiteful Fury" enUS - see http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=36886 |
| 05:34.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39992 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatBuffsData.lua: Threat-1.0: Added modifier for "Spiteful Fury" debuff |
| 05:35.27 | sedatedChipmunk | xystic: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268700 |
| 05:37.20 | xystic | well... that's a side to him that I've never seen before :P |
| 05:37.41 | sedatedChipmunk | you can see more of it; just look for all the blue posts |
| 05:38.31 | grennon | alright, lurker below is a fun fight |
| 05:38.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39993 10PitBull/InteractLines/InteractLines.lua: PitBull_InteractLines - don't alter Parser-3.0 info table. |
| 05:38.51 | xystic | I stopped playing on Aman'Thul a while back (he used to assist me with tips, when I asked, on improving as a main-tank) |
| 05:39.00 | grennon | but not when you have 8 casters over the MT on threat, and can hardly see yourself in relation to the tank |
| 05:39.21 | sedatedChipmunk | clearly time to add more bars |
| 05:39.27 | grennon | Omen needs to filter out ranged thread on bosses like that |
| 05:39.33 | sedatedChipmunk | or filter classes |
| 05:39.35 | grennon | threat* |
| 05:39.45 | sedatedChipmunk | you can filter everything but the warriors |
| 05:39.51 | grennon | well, it has to be manual since i guess you could have mages on the inner circle |
| 05:39.52 | sedatedChipmunk | or drag out the MT's bar |
| 05:40.10 | sedatedChipmunk | so you get that spiffy you vs. him bar |
| 05:40.35 | sedatedChipmunk | which is, did i mention, quite spiffy |
| 05:40.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39994 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fixed the aggro bar display. |
| 05:41.26 | sedatedChipmunk | no more flyspeck-2 font? |
| 05:42.07 | sedatedChipmunk | shoot |
| 05:42.09 | art3mis | i wish that pitbull had a global heigth/width/scale option |
| 05:42.24 | sedatedChipmunk | i didn't save anything in bulkmail to gank r40000 |
| 05:42.26 | art3mis | height |
| 05:42.51 | ckknight | yea, as I said before, if someone ganks r40000 for the sake of ganking r40000, there will be consequences |
| 05:43.03 | ckknight | art3mis: what do I get out of implementing it? |
| 05:43.09 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight: oh yea? |
| 05:43.14 | ckknight | yep. |
| 05:43.15 | sedatedChipmunk | what do you plan to do to me |
| 05:43.23 | ckknight | ban SVN access |
| 05:43.32 | ckknight | that was the original plan, at least |
| 05:43.38 | sedatedChipmunk | you can't ban my svn access |
| 05:43.38 | art3mis | a cookie |
| 05:43.42 | ckknight | it's not cool to save up commits for a round number |
| 05:43.52 | ckknight | and it's not cool to make fake commits for a round number |
| 05:43.58 | ckknight | real commits are fine |
| 05:44.01 | Antiarc | Man, I don't even know how to begin to test soulshatter |
| 05:44.04 | ckknight | but don't be a dick. |
| 05:44.08 | ckknight | that's all |
| 05:44.16 | ckknight | because seriously, you'd be as bad as Kenco. |
| 05:44.24 | sedatedChipmunk | or as bad as ckknight |
| 05:44.26 | ckknight | now isn't that worse, sedatedChipmunk? to be compared with Kenco |
| 05:44.26 | kbh | use dr. boom! |
| 05:44.38 | sedatedChipmunk | who used to do that frequently, iirc! |
| 05:44.41 | art3mis | ckknight: im actually curious as to why it isnt already in there though |
| 05:44.49 | Starinnia | don't test soulshatter, just let the locks die |
| 05:44.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: it's kind of a pain, due to the 5 minute cooldown. |
| 05:44.56 | ckknight | art3mis: because it's complex |
| 05:44.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm not fond of that idea. |
| 05:45.01 | art3mis | oh |
| 05:45.10 | art3mis | its not a simple set once and apply for everything that opens? |
| 05:45.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc, what do you need for it? |
| 05:45.31 | Starinnia | I'll make the warlocks in my guild do anything.. just let me know :) |
| 05:45.35 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Producing an error case on resist and then fixing it |
| 05:45.44 | ckknight | art3mis: how do you properly tell if it should be applied to everything? and how would one create the menu? |
| 05:45.49 | ZealotOnAStick | an error case? |
| 05:45.52 | Antiarc | FD wasn't bad because it's a 30 sec CD and I can go FD a +20 mob |
| 05:46.03 | Antiarc | Soulshatter puportedly still applies the reduction on resist |
| 05:46.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes, it has been. |
| 05:46.28 | kbh | is misdirect broken? |
| 05:46.29 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Go aggro as many mobs as you can and soulshatter them and take a picture of the combat log |
| 05:46.36 | art3mis | well i suppose you could have a generic "invisible" placeholder bar with the options that "set" for IF everything else is set to default values? |
| 05:46.38 | Antiarc | kbh: In threat or Blizzard? |
| 05:46.40 | ZealotOnAStick | There should be a clear message of resist, per-mob, in the CL. |
| 05:46.44 | kbh | threaty |
| 05:46.49 | Starinnia | its flaky is threat |
| 05:46.50 | Antiarc | I dunno, it wasn't last time I checked |
| 05:46.51 | kbh | err not threat, blizzard |
| 05:46.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: difficultish to do. I only get resists on Bosses usually. |
| 05:46.57 | Antiarc | Yes, it's broken in WoW |
| 05:47.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got 11.4% +spell hit. |
| 05:47.07 | kbh | my hunters say only their first shot works anymore |
| 05:47.09 | Starinnia | only for some hunters though |
| 05:47.10 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Go to the deadmines, aggro the entire instance, and then soulshatter |
| 05:47.20 | Antiarc | You'll probably get at least one resist :) |
| 05:47.22 | art3mis | so if a raid bar opens for instance and its value isnt the default stuff it skips the global apply? |
| 05:47.37 | Starinnia | All my shots work with MD, but my friend had none work in Gruul's tonight... that was a fun trash pull |
| 05:47.41 | art3mis | something like that would be my guess for implementation |
| 05:48.03 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39995 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 05:48.03 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:48.03 | CIA-22 | - Spell: koKR Update |
| 05:48.10 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, lemme go finish updating the guild mod mirror, then I'll go give it a shot in Ragefire. |
| 05:48.24 | Antiarc | Starinnia: For Threat, at least, both the MDer and the MDee need to be running Threat |
| 05:48.33 | Silviu- | Antiarc i can try do it |
| 05:48.41 | Antiarc | I can borrow my wife's hunter easily enough |
| 05:49.01 | Starinnia | yeah, i made all the tanks get it tonight |
| 05:49.25 | Starinnia | one in three MDs stil seemed to give me the threat along with the tanks |
| 05:49.32 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 05:49.36 | Antiarc | It should be one or the other. |
| 05:50.07 | Starinnia | I'll do some more testing in KZ tomorrow, let you know if it persisted... they might have had old versions |
| 05:50.15 | Antiarc | Thanks, please do |
| 05:50.18 | art3mis | oh got to use omen on kazzak tonight |
| 05:50.29 | art3mis | its pertty |
| 05:50.30 | grennon | we had a pally tank kazzak the other night |
| 05:50.40 | art3mis | heh it took like 3 mins |
| 05:50.45 | Starinnia | i had a pally tank Gruul tonight |
| 05:50.46 | art3mis | fast fight no deaths |
| 05:50.55 | art3mis | was weird i assumed he was gonna be hard |
| 05:51.08 | grennon | i thought a pally tank would have a higher threat ceiling on kazzak, but i was still hitting my head against it |
| 05:51.28 | grennon | shadow cauldrons are nice on it |
| 05:51.46 | art3mis | course we had 6 shadow priests ;P |
| 05:51.55 | art3mis | 5 in he top 10 for damage ;P |
| 05:51.58 | grennon | mana batteries ftw |
| 05:52.16 | art3mis | the one that didnt make top 10 DC'd mid way through |
| 05:52.18 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:52.23 | Starinnia | love shadow priests... makes the most of my 3k RAP |
| 05:52.49 | art3mis | heh i have a new reply for people when they ask me to heal for instances |
| 05:52.51 | grennon | i think i can hit about 4k melee AP on kazzak |
| 05:52.59 | grennon | using an elixir or demonslaying |
| 05:53.10 | art3mis | "I'm pretty sure i'm a priest, did i somehow show up as a paladin?" |
| 05:53.12 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39996 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount_Modes.lua): Recount - Can now compare time based data in the graph window by alt clicking on names in the main window |
| 05:53.35 | grennon | with a full rampage up, battle shout, and bloodlust brooch used, im breaing 3.5k now with raid buffs |
| 05:53.39 | Starinnia | heh, 3k ranged is full buffs, pots, food and popping a trinket :P |
| 05:54.00 | Silviu- | Antiarc so u need an combatlog to see how it`s when shatter get resisted ? |
| 05:54.07 | art3mis | 1800-2300 MB's with no CoS or epic gear ;) |
| 05:54.24 | Roartindon_ | kazzak took 3 minutes? |
| 05:54.29 | art3mis | Roartindon_: yup |
| 05:54.32 | art3mis | if that |
| 05:54.34 | Roartindon_ | We have a goal to kill him around the 1 minute mark :) |
| 05:54.38 | Xuerian | feral ftw: http://darklegacycomics.com/83.html |
| 05:54.41 | Roartindon_ | pre-enrage makes him trivial |
| 05:54.44 | art3mis | i wasnt paying much att ention |
| 05:55.00 | grennon | his enrage is pretty weak, 10 seconds |
| 05:55.03 | Antiarc | Silviu-: Yes please |
| 05:55.13 | grennon | then your back to phase1 again |
| 05:55.18 | Roartindon_ | grennon: Yeah, but the quicker it's over, the less likely some mana user is gonna boom the raid |
| 05:55.24 | art3mis | button 5 8 4 2 2 2 2 2 2 8 2 5 2 2 2 2 2 8 5 2 2 2 4 |
| 05:55.30 | art3mis | that was about my whole fight ;P |
| 05:55.52 | art3mis | 5 = pain 8 = vt 4 = ve 2 = mf |
| 05:55.53 | xystic | Despite having known him, I would have to side with the green posts in that argument - KTM from my memory did hog CPU, and the arguments made by ckknight are sound |
| 05:56.26 | Roartindon_ | xystic: That's good, otherwise ckknight would kick you from this channel :P |
| 05:56.39 | Starinnia | Kenco reminds me of the guy in your programming class that is convinced he knows more than the phD teaching |
| 05:56.39 | nymbia | lol |
| 05:56.42 | NightHawkTheSane | xystic: he's lying, we wouldn't kick you, we'd just make fun of you, lots. |
| 05:56.42 | art3mis | very little of what ckk says is sound ;P |
| 05:57.02 | sedatedChipmunk | rofl @ some of our old logs |
| 05:57.06 | ckknight | Starinnia: what's sad is that I'm transferring schools because I knew more than my teachers. |
| 05:57.10 | grennon | ckk was advocating adding GOTO statements to lua the other night |
| 05:57.12 | art3mis | its like listening to someone at a comic con talk about the technical errors in the design of the enterprise ;) |
| 05:57.22 | Starinnia | ckknight: same here |
| 05:57.28 | sedatedChipmunk | 19:27 < vhaarr> Neronix: grats :D |
| 05:57.28 | sedatedChipmunk | 19:27 <@Kaelten> 10k commits |
| 05:57.28 | sedatedChipmunk | 19:27 < CIA-11> tekkub * r10001 FuBar_KeyQ/FuBar_KeyQ.toc: |
| 05:57.28 | sedatedChipmunk | 19:27 < CIA-11> FuBar_KeyQ |
| 05:57.28 | sedatedChipmunk | 19:27 <@Tekkub> FUCKER! |
| 05:57.31 | sedatedChipmunk | 19:27 < CIA-11> - BAM |
| 05:57.37 | xystic | :) |
| 05:57.40 | Xuerian | haha. |
| 05:57.42 | Antiarc | art3mis: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Pp-kmaWK74 |
| 05:57.46 | Xuerian | I remember that XD |
| 05:57.50 | ckknight | that was Neronix |
| 05:57.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:57.54 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:58.21 | Gngsk | wish he was still around |
| 05:58.24 | sedatedChipmunk | i like how tek cussed at him before cia even finished the message |
| 05:58.30 | xystic | I've had people claim in five years, they've used a goto in C but once; In 7 years I've never had a reason to use it yet |
| 05:58.46 | art3mis | Antiarc: bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 05:58.53 | art3mis | it is him isnt it! |
| 05:59.00 | Antiarc | Did you just say my name wrong? |
| 05:59.12 | art3mis | oh my god thats awesome |
| 05:59.22 | grennon | C is a language that gives you infinite length of rope to help you hang yourself with if so inclined |
| 05:59.28 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 05:59.37 | art3mis | i LOVE how he doesnt extrapolate ANY answers |
| 05:59.49 | Fisker- | so nymbia |
| 05:59.57 | art3mis | did you do that before this contest? no <awkward pause> |
| 06:00.00 | Fisker- | are you bad enough to make revision 40000 a gm ticket addon? |
| 06:01.03 | art3mis | bahahahahhahahahaha |
| 06:01.08 | art3mis | YOU GOT IT RIGHT! |
| 06:01.11 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.221) |
| 06:01.11 | art3mis | no wait you didnt |
| 06:01.12 | ckknight | I'm working on an "all units" thing for PitBull |
| 06:01.20 | grennon | heheh |
| 06:01.22 | grennon | unit |
| 06:01.27 | *** join/#wowace Dustwhisper (n=ask@78.80-202-20.nextgentel.com) |
| 06:01.30 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: can i bug you about something in cartographer |
| 06:01.35 | ckknight | no |
| 06:01.36 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Owned face. |
| 06:01.46 | art3mis | Xuerian: watch taht video |
| 06:01.47 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: then direct me to the proper person to bug |
| 06:01.52 | Xuerian | art3mis: I did |
| 06:01.52 | art3mis | thats totally ckk ;) |
| 06:01.53 | Xuerian | XD |
| 06:02.00 | art3mis | or what i picture |
| 06:02.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: me, later |
| 06:02.02 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:02.03 | Starinnia | he just doesn't like being bugged |
| 06:02.23 | Starinnia | try submitting a formal request with a TPS report |
| 06:02.25 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 06:02.28 | Roartindon_ | SCOM-BRI-DAE! |
| 06:02.29 | sedatedChipmunk | here's our zeeg crusade |
| 06:02.33 | ckknight | gah, it won't load, Antiarc |
| 06:02.49 | sedatedChipmunk | 00:19 < Tekkub> nah zeeg's a fucksmudge, he's never done anything worth even bitching about |
| 06:03.23 | Fisker- | oh fucking snap |
| 06:03.33 | Fisker- | kenco is getting fucked in all holes |
| 06:03.33 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate zeeg |
| 06:03.34 | purl | anyone recommend some newer black people music... most people simply call it ni.. music |
| 06:03.41 | *** join/#wowace rophy2 (n=Miranda@220-132-204-186.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 06:03.45 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate zeeg |
| 06:03.46 | purl | i have no morals. im a business man |
| 06:03.49 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2RffS4wdyU&mode=related&search= |
| 06:03.56 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate zeeg |
| 06:03.57 | purl | anyone recommend some newer black people music... most people simply call it ni.. music |
| 06:03.58 | art3mis | an atari 2600 and a backup atari 2600 |
| 06:04.04 | art3mis | and a 3rd atari 2600 |
| 06:04.07 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate zeeg |
| 06:04.08 | purl | anyone recommend some newer black people music... most people simply call it ni.. music |
| 06:04.09 | art3mis | thats another 2600 |
| 06:04.12 | art3mis | thats a 5200 ;P |
| 06:04.18 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate zeeg |
| 06:04.18 | purl | the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 06:04.37 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate zeeg |
| 06:04.37 | purl | the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 06:05.27 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, I just aggroed about half of Ragefire chasm. |
| 06:05.37 | sedatedChipmunk | go 4 teh other half! |
| 06:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | only half? slacker. |
| 06:06.49 | Silviu- | Antiarc i aggroed all Stockade but no resist i`ll try again ;) |
| 06:07.35 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=jT6L7xMCKi0&mode=related&search= <-- okay if you laugh at this you're a nerd |
| 06:07.53 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39997 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Won't reset when adding data to the graph for comparison to now if you change to a mode then change back |
| 06:08.06 | ZealotOnAStick | And not a single soulshatter resist. |
| 06:08.10 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 06:08.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, it was hard not dying there, I burned a healthstone and a potion before I shattered. |
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| 06:08.48 | ZealotOnAStick | can't siphon life . . . even rank 1 will kill them. |
| 06:09.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I need a healer to tag along and hot me. |
| 06:09.11 | art3mis | these two hydrogen atoms are talking and the 1st hydrogen atom says oh crap i lost an electron, the 2nd hydrogen atom replies are you sure? and the 1st hydrogen atom says i'm positive |
| 06:09.25 | xystic | I'm not familiar with LUA... how capable would you say it is to facilitate me writing some kind of player AI in it? (even if it's as simple as utilizing pre-classified data about an instance mob/boss and implementation of something like minimax with A-B pruning?) |
| 06:09.25 | krka | xystic: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 06:09.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Lemme go try on something higher level. |
| 06:09.28 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:36 < ckknight> you didn't exit WoW, did you? |
| 06:09.28 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:36 <@Tem> HonorFu.lua:3: attempt to index global |
| 06:09.29 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:36 <@Tem> yes I did exit wow |
| 06:09.29 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:36 < ckknight> cause those are in FuBar |
| 06:09.29 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:36 <@Tem> I restarted wow |
| 06:09.31 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:36 <@Tem> I FUCKING CLOSED WOW AND RESTAREDED IT |
| 06:09.42 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:36 < ckknight> did you install the recent FuBar? |
| 06:09.42 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:37 <@Tem> they are all from the svn, I think |
| 06:09.42 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:37 <@Tem> please hold |
| 06:09.42 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:37 <@Tem> oh lol |
| 06:09.42 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:37 < hyperChipmunk> tem |
| 06:09.44 | sedatedChipmunk | 23:37 <@Tem> my FuBar isn't from the svn |
| 06:09.57 | Tem | what is that from? |
| 06:09.59 | sedatedChipmunk | gg tem |
| 06:10.07 | ckknight | specifically, _when_ is that from? |
| 06:10.22 | sedatedChipmunk | april 26, 2006 |
| 06:10.29 | Tem | yeah, so... |
| 06:10.31 | ckknight | mang |
| 06:10.35 | ckknight | while ago |
| 06:11.19 | Tem | damn, I must have been in a /really/ bad mood |
| 06:11.38 | Tem | someone probably peed in my cherios |
| 06:11.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah, I have an idea. |
| 06:11.45 | nymbia | lol |
| 06:12.52 | Fisker- | so nymbia |
| 06:12.55 | Fisker- | bad enough dude? |
| 06:15.19 | Starinnia | hey Antiarc, is there a feature in Omen or Threat to see what version other people in your raid are using? |
| 06:15.29 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, idea didn't work. |
| 06:15.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Dueled a rogue and had him CloS and shattered. |
| 06:16.09 | Antiarc | Starinnia: Yup, options -> show party revisions |
| 06:16.18 | Starinnia | cool, thanks |
| 06:16.18 | Arrowmaster | its just a standard spell resist msg |
| 06:16.35 | ZealotOnAStick | of course, didn't do anything in pvp |
| 06:16.36 | sedatedChipmunk | here we are brainstorming a new name for BossPanel |
| 06:16.56 | ZealotOnAStick | not that I'm really surprised. |
| 06:17.08 | ZealotOnAStick | ugh, and now my hearth has like 50 minutes left and I'm in org. |
| 06:17.18 | Arrowmaster | rfc port |
| 06:17.25 | ZealotOnAStick | nah. |
| 06:17.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I need to think a bit more on how to get a resist. |
| 06:17.52 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 06:18.00 | ZealotOnAStick | other than, say, go piss off al'ar or something. But if I did, I'm positive it'd go through, as mine does most of the time. |
| 06:18.01 | Xuerian | sedatedChipmunk: Feeling nostalgic? :p |
| 06:18.11 | Arrowmaster | bastards made it so i cant attack the aldor tier5 vendor anymore |
| 06:18.24 | art3mis | why couldnt you be a reverse mermaid qwith the fish part on top and the woman part on the bottom! |
| 06:18.34 | Jaxon | ZealotOnAStick: the leashed mobs in Blasted Lands that go invincible if you don't destroy the stone at the right time. |
| 06:18.55 | Jaxon | You'd get a resist eventually. |
| 06:18.59 | Arrowmaster | and damnit why dont the level 19 scryer npcs ever proc doomguards when dying to curse of doom |
| 06:19.17 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: 0.o |
| 06:19.29 | Arrowmaster | maybe i should downrank to rank 1, ive never seen a doomguard proc from rank 2 |
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| 06:19.44 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: im bored |
| 06:19.54 | Xuerian | Couldn't tell. :D |
| 06:20.16 | Starinnia | warlock in my guild spawned one as Prince died.. pissed of the MT... |
| 06:20.22 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:20.53 | Arrowmaster | these alliance priests keep looking at me funny |
| 06:21.06 | Starinnia | alliance priests always look funny |
| 06:21.20 | Arrowmaster | so true |
| 06:21.33 | Arrowmaster | damn nightelf is emoting at me now |
| 06:21.41 | sedatedChipmunk | hehe |
| 06:21.44 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate glibc |
| 06:21.45 | purl | I know better than the kernel.. let's not waste its time with this system call |
| 06:21.55 | Arrowmaster | as i stand next to the aldor leader with a lvl 19 npc attacking me as i want for curse of doom to go off |
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| 06:22.29 | Starinnia | prolly wants to cyber... crazy night elves |
| 06:22.39 | sedatedChipmunk | ~gay sickness |
| 06:22.39 | purl | "I'm sorry I can't come to work today, it seems I'm gay. I'll probably be gay all week" |
| 06:23.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah all those elf priests are weird |
| 06:23.32 | NightHawkTheSane | s/priests // |
| 06:23.47 | NightHawkTheSane | er, rather.. meh, fuckit, you know what i mean |
| 06:24.05 | theoddone33 | s/f priests /ves/ |
| 06:24.10 | theoddone33 | f priests, heh |
| 06:25.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, seriously, f priests. :P |
| 06:25.08 | Arrowmaster | oh hey |
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| 06:25.10 | Arrowmaster | a doomguard |
| 06:25.46 | Arrowmaster | now im just fearing it around the room |
| 06:26.06 | Arrowmaster | lvl 70 doomguards hit like sissys |
| 06:26.09 | Cryect | watch r40000 won't be from someone even in this channel :-p |
| 06:26.16 | Antiarc | Probably a localization |
| 06:26.19 | Antiarc | That will be reverted in 40001 |
| 06:26.20 | Cryect | yeah |
| 06:27.08 | Cyrez | Or an intentionally left out } somewhere. |
| 06:27.43 | Birdemani | so btw |
| 06:27.44 | Arrowmaster | lol somebody aggroed my doomguard |
| 06:27.45 | sedatedChipmunk | i wish my addons were broken |
| 06:27.53 | sedatedChipmunk | then i could fix them |
| 06:27.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:27.54 | Arrowmaster | it got feared out of the room and didnt come back |
| 06:27.59 | sedatedChipmunk | and steal 40000 |
| 06:28.00 | Birdemani | doesnt look like its a BT3 issue, its an autobar issue |
| 06:28.07 | sedatedChipmunk | but i'm just too darn good a programmer |
| 06:28.08 | sedatedChipmunk | ooh |
| 06:28.13 | sedatedChipmunk | there was something i was meaning to do |
| 06:28.41 | Arrowmaster | if you fix it and wait for 2 more commits ckk will be angry at you! |
| 06:29.29 | sedatedChipmunk | bite me |
| 06:30.18 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r39998 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurnin.toc: AutoTurnin: update description in .toc file, make everyone on irc |
| 06:30.32 | Fisker- | you must hurry nymbia |
| 06:30.37 | Starinnia | just have everyone in the channel distract ckk while you put in r40000 |
| 06:30.42 | grennon | it was supposed to say "wonder who will get 40k" |
| 06:30.51 | ckknight | lol, grennon |
| 06:31.07 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r39999 10PostalClerk/: Removed file/folder |
| 06:31.09 | Antiarc | ckknight: I'm having problems accessing the modulePrototype's version of UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT |
| 06:31.12 | Antiarc | From the hunter module |
| 06:31.16 | Antiarc | Any ideas? |
| 06:31.27 | Antiarc | A second registration seems to get ignored |
| 06:31.43 | grennon | man, i figured someone would ninja 40k right off the bat |
| 06:31.53 | grennon | with their finger hovering over the commit key |
| 06:31.57 | Antiarc | I could, but my commit isn't actually ready :P |
| 06:32.00 | Antiarc | Once I solve this issue, it is. |
| 06:32.02 | sedatedChipmunk | same =P |
| 06:32.53 | Cryect | I'm in middle of working out some bug in GraphLib :-p |
| 06:33.07 | [Ammo] | time to commit SRA: Silly Revision Anger! |
| 06:33.14 | [Ammo] | and then run duck hide |
| 06:33.29 | Fisker- | come on nymbia |
| 06:33.33 | Fisker- | you can't let [Ammo] do that |
| 06:34.05 | grennon | you should add ckknight to the xcredits in a toc file and commit that for the 40k commit |
| 06:34.12 | grennon | just for the irony |
| 06:34.37 | [Ammo] | SRA: Some Revision Added |
| 06:34.40 | xt | OMG |
| 06:34.48 | xt | EXCITING |
| 06:34.49 | Silviu- | Damn those stokade guys won`t resist my shatter :/ |
| 06:34.51 | xt | WHO WILL WIN |
| 06:35.15 | ckknight | I have a revision to commit. |
| 06:35.15 | Roartindon_ | I have one too |
| 06:35.15 | xt | omg! |
| 06:35.17 | Roartindon_ | waiting until past r40000 :) |
| 06:35.23 | Silviu- | ckknight u have to ban yourself :/ |
| 06:35.31 | sedatedChipmunk | wtf why doesn't this work |
| 06:35.42 | sedatedChipmunk | if i want to match either ' or " |
| 06:35.46 | Starinnia | this is better than the movie i rented for the night |
| 06:35.48 | ckknight | Silviu-: no, it's a legit commit |
| 06:35.51 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 06:35.52 | sedatedChipmunk | [\'\"] |
| 06:35.54 | sedatedChipmunk | no? |
| 06:36.01 | Cryect | that should be right |
| 06:36.07 | Cryect | I would think |
| 06:37.01 | ckknight | well, guess I'm gonna do it |
| 06:37.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40000 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua: Threat-1.0 - call the modulePrototype's UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT in the Hunter module. |
| 06:37.21 | sedatedChipmunk | screw it |
| 06:37.27 | sedatedChipmunk | i'll wait for 50k to fix it then |
| 06:37.31 | Antiarc | Grats :D |
| 06:37.32 | sedatedChipmunk | 50k is better anyway |
| 06:37.35 | ckknight | finally, it's over. |
| 06:37.38 | Antiarc | Damn you, you stole my commit. |
| 06:37.40 | ckknight | we can all stop worrying |
| 06:37.44 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc |
| 06:37.44 | sedatedChipmunk | rofl |
| 06:37.45 | ckknight | I know |
| 06:37.49 | grennon | man fuck hunters |
| 06:37.50 | Antiarc | That was even my commit message |
| 06:38.02 | ckknight | gestolen! |
| 06:38.04 | Silviu- | YAY |
| 06:38.06 | Silviu- | Resist ! |
| 06:38.07 | Starinnia | hunters FTW |
| 06:38.22 | Fisker- | you have failed me nymbia |
| 06:38.34 | Arrowmaster | Silviu-: now get out of there before it scrolls off the combat log due to all the mobs hitting you! |
| 06:38.50 | Cryect | good can commit now :-p |
| 06:38.54 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: can i bug you about cartographer yet? |
| 06:38.59 | art3mis | neat stephen hawkings wrote a kids book |
| 06:39.05 | Silviu- | I was saving my combatlog |
| 06:39.05 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 06:39.06 | Antiarc | Fail, ckknight |
| 06:39.06 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: once I do a PitBull commit |
| 06:39.09 | Antiarc | You missed arg4 |
| 06:39.11 | Antiarc | Which is the most important one |
| 06:39.16 | ckknight | Antiarc: arg4? gah. |
| 06:39.21 | art3mis | arg4 is for losers! |
| 06:39.29 | art3mis | everyone know the universe ends at dog doo 8 |
| 06:39.29 | Antiarc | And you repeated arg3 twice |
| 06:39.39 | Silviu- | Antiarc ! |
| 06:39.41 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40001 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Y Labels will now remain above filled line graphs |
| 06:39.42 | Silviu- | I get a cookie ? |
| 06:39.45 | Starinnia | arg4? who uses that anymore? all the cool kids use arg5 |
| 06:39.49 | Silviu- | http://ace.pastey.net/56885 |
| 06:39.59 | sedatedChipmunk | local _, _, localevar, vers, locname = string.find(f, "(%S+) = AceLibrary%(\"(AceLocale%-.%..)\"%)%:new%(\"([^\"]+)\"") |
| 06:40.07 | Antiarc | cookie for you! |
| 06:40.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40002 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua: Threat-1.0 - bugfix in Hunter module, apparently. |
| 06:40.08 | Antiarc | thanks you! |
| 06:40.16 | Cryect | hahaha |
| 06:40.28 | Aenslaed | oh man. 4pc tier5 so hot! |
| 06:40.31 | sedatedChipmunk | how would you make that accept AceLibrary('AceLocale-2.2'):new('foo') in addition to just AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("BulkMail") |
| 06:40.35 | art3mis | "appearantly"? |
| 06:40.47 | sedatedChipmunk | s/BulkMail/foo/ |
| 06:40.51 | ckknight | no, art3mis |
| 06:41.02 | sedatedChipmunk | local _, _, localevar, vers, locname = string.find(f, "(%S+) = AceLibrary%([\'\"](AceLocale%-.%..)[\'\"]%)%:new%([\'\"]([^\"\']+)[\'\"]") |
| 06:41.05 | sedatedChipmunk | no? |
| 06:41.11 | art3mis | yeah im confused too |
| 06:41.30 | art3mis | bugfix in Hunter module, apparently. <--- apparently? |
| 06:41.48 | sedatedChipmunk | oh duh |
| 06:41.49 | sedatedChipmunk | it's %' |
| 06:41.57 | Cryect | Thats the right spelling of apparently |
| 06:42.15 | art3mis | yes but how can it apparently be a bug fix? |
| 06:42.22 | Starinnia | drycode? |
| 06:42.40 | ckknight | yea, drycode |
| 06:42.42 | art3mis | there's only one thing ckk does dry |
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| 06:42.47 | ckknight | humping? |
| 06:42.57 | art3mis | i was gonna say baby back ribs |
| 06:43.03 | art3mis | but your word not mine |
| 06:43.13 | Starinnia | dry rub baby back ribs... obviously |
| 06:43.33 | art3mis | heh my next though was molson dry and then a dry martini |
| 06:43.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40003 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Hunter.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Got Misdirection playing nicely with Feign Death. Also, 40k3 is the new 40k because ckk stole 40k with my own change. >:( |
| 06:43.37 | art3mis | thought |
| 06:43.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i could go for a dry martini |
| 06:44.11 | art3mis | but "apparently" ckk likes dry humping ;) |
| 06:44.21 | NightHawkTheSane | well who doesn't like dry humping |
| 06:44.24 | art3mis | prolly after a bunch of dry martinis and ribs |
| 06:44.40 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: in order for dry humping to be fun you kind of need a partner |
| 06:44.50 | art3mis | and we are talking about ckk so............ |
| 06:44.59 | Starinnia | what about his hands? |
| 06:45.00 | sedatedChipmunk | meh |
| 06:45.04 | sedatedChipmunk | i can't figger it out |
| 06:45.08 | sedatedChipmunk | i'll wait until 50k |
| 06:45.16 | art3mis | Starinnia: i dunno ive never felt them |
| 06:45.21 | art3mis | haha sedatyed |
| 06:45.36 | sedatedChipmunk | 'night |
| 06:45.37 | art3mis | so next week some time? |
| 06:45.45 | xt | Antiarc: were you able to look at the "update"-problem? |
| 06:45.56 | sedatedChipmunk | :q |
| 06:45.59 | sedatedChipmunk | er, oops |
| 06:46.22 | xt | sedatedChipmunk: good thing our irc client doesnt have support for vim commands :) |
| 06:46.40 | sedatedChipmunk | indeed |
| 06:47.12 | NightHawkTheSane | sometimes i wish everything undesrstood vim commands |
| 06:47.25 | sedatedChipmunk | heh |
| 06:47.43 | sedatedChipmunk | i've tried to exit wow with ZZ before |
| 06:48.09 | NightHawkTheSane | when I used to use vim more regularly, i'd try to exit any kind of text entry field with <esc>:wq |
| 06:48.36 | NightHawkTheSane | and then have a baffled look on my face when it didn't work. |
| 06:49.21 | Neebler | http://steampunkworkshop.com/images/Wkb.jpg |
| 06:49.44 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, that was in popsci this month |
| 06:49.56 | sedatedChipmunk | the keyboard was, at least |
| 06:50.20 | Antiarc | xt: The list clear/rebuild? |
| 06:50.26 | xt | no |
| 06:50.32 | xt | threat stopping to transmit it seams |
| 06:50.36 | xt | same bug as you fixed for me earlier |
| 06:50.38 | Antiarc | Oh |
| 06:50.46 | Antiarc | I basically rebuilt that entire piece of the code |
| 06:50.50 | Antiarc | So it should be less error prone now |
| 06:51.09 | xt | Ok, I'll bug you again if I experience problems :) |
| 06:52.00 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: what was the Cart issue, so I know |
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| 06:53.21 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you mentioned one time that you were making cart use map texture names for zone names instead of GetRealZoneText() so it wouldnt break in places like twisting nether |
| 06:53.36 | Arrowmaster | line 1250 in Cartographer.lua |
| 06:53.39 | ckknight | right |
| 06:53.55 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer:GetCurrentPlayerPosition() breaks in twisting nether |
| 06:54.44 | sedatedChipmunk | he's like level 45 |
| 06:55.15 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 06:55.15 | sedatedChipmunk | s/twisting nether/the ocean |
| 06:55.20 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:56.01 | Arrowmaster | i found a place in the dranni starting zone that lets you easyly zone into the ocean |
| 06:57.09 | NightHawkTheSane | zone into the ocean? |
| 06:57.12 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 06:57.36 | NightHawkTheSane | that seems like it would suck |
| 06:57.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah theres a dock with a quest npc that when you walk up to him the zone switches to one of the oceans |
| 06:57.52 | Arrowmaster | oddly the ocean is alliance controlled...... |
| 06:58.13 | Arrowmaster | "The Veiled Sea" |
| 06:58.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: well, you know, you guys have all the boats. |
| 06:58.25 | NightHawkTheSane | horde just has zepps |
| 06:58.27 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40004 10Violation/Threat/ (TargetThreat.lua Threat.lua): Violation: don't send nil data over the comm |
| 06:58.37 | [Ammo] | now 40004 is a pretty commit :P |
| 06:58.54 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: i have 1 alliance character thats like lvl 10, my main is horde |
| 06:59.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: what, do i look like i stalk you to know that? :P Yeesh, stalking sedatedChipmunk is hard enough. |
| 07:00.16 | Arrowmaster | damn naked bloodelfs are summoning doomguards in the AH.... |
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| 07:03.09 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: shouldn't you be asleep? |
| 07:03.46 | Fisker- | oh U |
| 07:05.15 | Cyrez | Thank you for making r40000 actually meaningful. |
| 07:05.40 | ckknight | yep |
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| 07:07.46 | Fisker- | need potion bags :< |
| 07:08.19 | Antiarc | How do I check if a library exists? I forget :/ |
| 07:10.20 | Arrowmaster | HasInstance()? |
| 07:10.44 | Antiarc | That's it |
| 07:12.13 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40005 10Assessment/ (AssessmentTag.lua Modules/Threat.lua): |
| 07:12.13 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 07:12.13 | CIA-22 | - Added IsAltKeyDown and IsShiftKeyDown tags |
| 07:12.13 | CIA-22 | - Added threatVersion tag |
| 07:12.13 | CIA-22 | - Added Group Threat Versions display set, not favorite by default. Will show who in your group is |
| 07:12.50 | xt | does assessment have group dps? |
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| 07:13.00 | xt | or raid dps |
| 07:13.11 | Roartindon_ | xt: If you want it to |
| 07:13.32 | Roartindon_ | xt: It gathers data, you can specify just about any way you want it shown, including summations/calculations |
| 07:14.05 | ckknight | dang, DogTag-1.0 should probably support Alt, Shift, Ctrl as well. |
| 07:14.25 | Roartindon_ | ckknight: Are there any events that are triggered when those keys are pressed? |
| 07:14.35 | ckknight | MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED or so |
| 07:14.35 | Roartindon_ | Right now, I'm flagging something for periodic update if they use those tags |
| 07:14.40 | Roartindon_ | Ah ha! |
| 07:14.46 | Roartindon_ | xt: Information on http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6576.0 |
| 07:14.52 | xt | Roartindon_: thanks |
| 07:14.58 | Roartindon_ | xt: Crappy screenshot on http://www.lim.com.au/wow/assessment.jpg |
| 07:15.34 | Roartindon_ | ckknight: I had this idea that some info would only be shown if those modifiers were pressed... seemed to make sense :) |
| 07:15.42 | ckknight | right. |
| 07:16.10 | xt | that would be sweet, I agree |
| 07:16.20 | xt | like clean by default, with more info with Alt pressed |
| 07:16.27 | Fisker- | I'm a level 10 Sam Fisher |
| 07:16.32 | Punkie` | Roartindon_: Can that be used for self only or whole raid etc? |
| 07:16.43 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: what used? |
| 07:16.55 | Punkie` | assessment |
| 07:17.22 | Roartindon_ | At the moment, assessment does no comms.. it gathers anything you have combat log range to tho |
| 07:17.31 | Roartindon_ | And there's a combat log range slider in the addon |
| 07:17.32 | Antiarc | Ok, waterfall is hotness. |
| 07:17.33 | Punkie` | damn, any way to make it self only? |
| 07:17.59 | Punkie` | because i dont like to reset ones with all that info and they get bloated very easily |
| 07:18.12 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: There are options to not record detailed information |
| 07:18.21 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: Maybe I'll add the option to only record detailed information for yourself only |
| 07:18.24 | Punkie` | I used Recount for half a raid and it was using 20Mib+ |
| 07:18.45 | abyssichate | a personal recount/assessment is indeed a good thing |
| 07:18.52 | Punkie` | yes please |
| 07:19.07 | Roartindon_ | Heh, that's pretty easy, I'll get that in sometime after I finish this instance |
| 07:19.16 | Punkie` | ok, enjoy :) |
| 07:19.34 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40006 10CombatEvents-1.0/CombatEvents-1.0/CombatEvents-1.0.lua: CombatEvents-1.0: bugfixes. |
| 07:19.50 | abyssichate | Just watched the illidan movie from Nihilum, it really feels epic :s |
| 07:21.36 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: As it is, you can already run Assessment with the damage data module and healing data module set to only record basic informatino |
| 07:21.54 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: Then it's a basic damage/threat/healing meter |
| 07:22.00 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: With no detailed information |
| 07:23.26 | Punkie` | I want the detailed information thought |
| 07:23.29 | Punkie` | -t |
| 07:23.32 | Punkie` | but only for myself |
| 07:23.44 | xt | 09:19 <Roartindon_> Heh, that's pretty easy, I'll get that in sometime after I finish this instance |
| 07:24.06 | Punkie` | I would just like an addon that does the detailed breakdown of myself only, i dont want damage meters since I have Violation for that |
| 07:24.15 | xt | 09:19 <Roartindon_> Heh, that's pretty easy, I'll get that in sometime after I finish this instance |
| 07:24.18 | xt | Lol |
| 07:24.19 | xt | sorry |
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| 07:26.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay for random power outages. |
| 07:28.14 | xt | get an UPS |
| 07:28.19 | xt | :> |
| 07:28.21 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:28.22 | Fisker- | nub |
| 07:28.33 | Fisker- | or a diesel generator |
| 07:28.36 | xt | yeh |
| 07:28.43 | xt | that runs on biodiesel |
| 07:30.25 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40007 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 07:30.25 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 07:30.25 | CIA-22 | - small code cleanup |
| 07:32.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Have UPS's on the three desktop machines. |
| 07:32.10 | ZealotOnAStick | But it was down for an hour and a half almost. |
| 07:32.17 | ZealotOnAStick | and it was the entire area. |
| 07:32.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40008 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua): Omen: Added tooltip hint, added optional waterfall support, added shift-click to clear threat, fixed the "1.$" percent display when there's no aggro holder. |
| 07:32.32 | ZealotOnAStick | What got 40k? |
| 07:33.07 | ckknight | Threat-1.0 |
| 07:33.11 | ckknight | normal commit |
| 07:33.17 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40009 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TheEye/VoidReaver.lua: Threat-1.0: Changed the Void Reaver aggro reduction from 75% to 70% based on data from Jpwirtz |
| 07:33.30 | xt | ummm |
| 07:33.35 | xt | Antiarc: sure about that? |
| 07:33.46 | Antiarc | xt: I've had multiple people report that the 25% is registering too low. |
| 07:33.55 | Antiarc | http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=388110&postcount=642 |
| 07:34.15 | xt | Ok. That's weird..it was dead on for us |
| 07:34.28 | Antiarc | Hm. Well, get your folks to try it with 30% and see if it feels off |
| 07:34.40 | abyssichate | Ominous: Is the debuff highlighting working? |
| 07:34.42 | Antiarc | We can continue to play with it, but I've heard many people say that the 25% figure seems to be wrong |
| 07:35.11 | abyssichate | Antiarc: shift-click to reset, great! |
| 07:35.12 | xt | Antiarc: could it possibly affect warriors and druids differently |
| 07:35.14 | Antiarc | :) |
| 07:35.19 | xt | i guess it couldnt |
| 07:35.24 | Antiarc | xt: It shouldn't, not by any rules I know of |
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| 07:38.04 | Antiarc | Man, being able to leverage dewdrop and waterfall for config = win |
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| 07:38.49 | ckknight | Antiarc: totally :-) |
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| 07:39.02 | xystic | is Threat-1.0 the threat metric addon of choice now? |
| 07:39.12 | Fisker- | always been :P |
| 07:39.44 | Antiarc | That's the hope. It's still very young. |
| 07:40.01 | Antiarc | http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5323/omenconfigyl2.jpg <-- seriously, how sexy is that? |
| 07:40.06 | Antiarc | And it took like 4 lines of code |
| 07:42.04 | xystic | are any of the addon projects on sourceforge or similar? i.e. if I was looking to find one to try and contribute to... |
| 07:42.08 | Diao | :o |
| 07:42.11 | Diao | waterfall config? |
| 07:42.49 | Antiarc | xystic: They're all in the wowace SVN |
| 07:43.10 | Antiarc | http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 07:43.16 | xystic | thanks |
| 07:45.02 | theoddone33 | ooh party targets in pitbull now |
| 07:45.06 | theoddone33 | caught me offguard |
| 07:47.27 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40010 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 07:47.27 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 07:47.27 | CIA-22 | - some more code cleanup |
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| 07:53.11 | ckknight | theoddone33: been in a while |
| 07:53.54 | theoddone33 | cool |
| 07:56.00 | Antiarc | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 07:56.01 | Antiarc | Hahahah |
| 07:56.50 | Antiarc | Clearly, I am a crappy engineer and you have a better solution. |
| 07:56.56 | Antiarc | New wowace avatar. |
| 07:58.01 | NightHawkTheSane | tomorrow's xkcd is the win. |
| 07:58.12 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40011 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Damage gathering data options are no longer on/off, they allow none, all, or self only. TODO: Add same for healing options |
| 07:58.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i say, mere minutes after Antiarc said more or less the same thing. bah! |
| 07:58.53 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: ^^^ |
| 07:58.55 | xt | ! |
| 08:01.04 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6419.msg111218#msg111218 |
| 08:02.04 | art3mis | so heres a question for the graphics nerds |
| 08:02.06 | ZealotOnAStick | wow. |
| 08:02.23 | art3mis | does ati still kick the living crap out of nvidia at 1680x1050? |
| 08:02.31 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: aren't they amazing? |
| 08:03.30 | Antiarc | Night, folks |
| 08:03.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Hold on, lemme paraphrase . . . |
| 08:03.34 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40012 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 08:03.34 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 08:03.35 | CIA-22 | - setting svn:keyword |
| 08:03.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Amazingly stupid! |
| 08:03.47 | ZealotOnAStick | or something like that. |
| 08:03.49 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: that's what i meant ;) |
| 08:04.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Kenco needs help all right. |
| 08:04.14 | ZealotOnAStick | But not just coding help. |
| 08:04.39 | nymbia | haha |
| 08:05.03 | art3mis | cuz its my generation bay bay |
| 08:05.05 | Antiarc|Sleep | I can't figure out why he's so...abusive, I guess. |
| 08:05.14 | art3mis | why don't you all just f-f-f-ade away |
| 08:05.15 | theoddone33 | that's the ktm guy? |
| 08:05.19 | Antiarc|Sleep | yeah |
| 08:05.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:05.23 | ZealotOnAStick | defensive and delusional? |
| 08:05.26 | ckknight | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 08:05.29 | nymbia | just plain nasty |
| 08:05.32 | abyssichate | Antiarc|Sleep: is it true that tomorrow when you'll wake up you'll set up something for the fonr size? :D |
| 08:05.40 | abyssichate | *font |
| 08:05.52 | Antiarc|Sleep | abyssichate: I do not know! |
| 08:05.54 | Antiarc|Sleep | It's on the todo list |
| 08:06.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. |
| 08:06.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Dammit. |
| 08:06.19 | ZealotOnAStick | I just realized . . . |
| 08:06.24 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 08:06.31 | ZealotOnAStick | I probably had fraps of my soulshatter resists yesterday. |
| 08:06.36 | ZealotOnAStick | but I deleted them earlier. |
| 08:06.45 | Antiarc|Sleep | Silviu- got me a screen |
| 08:06.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Because, you know, I didn't really need 80 gigs of wipes. |
| 08:06.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. Fixed? |
| 08:07.01 | Antiarc|Sleep | Not yet |
| 08:07.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Bah! |
| 08:07.13 | nymbia | whiner! |
| 08:07.19 | nymbia | ;) |
| 08:07.20 | Antiarc|Sleep | I don't even have a warlock |
| 08:07.24 | Antiarc|Sleep | Let alone one with soulshatter |
| 08:07.26 | Antiarc|Sleep | So it's hard to test |
| 08:07.44 | abyssichate | I wonder when blizzard will allow me to change the gender of my character, sigh |
| 08:08.05 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: get more hit nub! |
| 08:08.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Probably about the same time as they allow Humans to kill themselves and resurrect as Forsaken. |
| 08:08.19 | ckknight | abyssichate: they won't |
| 08:08.21 | ZealotOnAStick | xt: I've got 11.4% +spell hit. |
| 08:08.26 | Antiarc|Sleep | You know |
| 08:08.35 | Antiarc|Sleep | I've written a mod called Sanity and a mod that's a threat meter |
| 08:08.43 | art3mis | n00b's post is funny |
| 08:08.47 | Antiarc|Sleep | And when I try to find out where people are talking about them, I get a lot of Eternal Darkness hits |
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| 08:08.55 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: not bad |
| 08:09.01 | Punkie` | Roartindon_: nice :) |
| 08:09.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Also, I have Magtheridon's Eye . . . |
| 08:09.11 | ZealotOnAStick | so I'm sort of reluctant to put on too much more spell hit. |
| 08:09.13 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40013 10Talented/ (core.lua viewmode.lua): Talented: target template is saved per character, not in profile |
| 08:09.18 | Jaxon | Maybe if you took off all your spell hit you might get more resists? |
| 08:09.20 | abyssichate | You can never have enough hit :/ |
| 08:09.23 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: think i have about 170 hit rating, and also eye :D |
| 08:09.39 | xt | abyssichate: yes, if you have more than 16% |
| 08:09.41 | nymbia | 13%'s cap against 73s, isnt it? |
| 08:09.45 | Kalman| | ZealotOnAStick: Math pretty much supports that +hit is always beneficial, even with the eye, til you cap. |
| 08:09.45 | ZealotOnAStick | 204 rating. |
| 08:09.50 | Kalman| | nymbia: 16%. |
| 08:09.52 | abyssichate | it's hard to have more than 16% as a lock |
| 08:09.55 | ZealotOnAStick | +16%. Always at least 1% chance. |
| 08:10.02 | abyssichate | on destruction spells. |
| 08:10.14 | xt | yep, and most locks fail to realise this |
| 08:10.17 | xt | boggles my mind |
| 08:10.35 | ZealotOnAStick | which my 11ish % plus aff talent that my mind is being stupid and not remembers at the moment maxes me on bosses. |
| 08:10.47 | ZealotOnAStick | The vast majority of my resists are on Shadow Bolts. |
| 08:10.54 | abyssichate | Yeah |
| 08:10.55 | Kalman| | Suppression? |
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| 08:11.10 | abyssichate | that's because there are no talents to pump +hit on destruction spells, which is a pity |
| 08:11.10 | ZealotOnAStick | And I pretty much only ever (Yes, Suppression, thank you) get shatter resists on raid bosses. |
| 08:11.15 | Fisker- | I love how mana potions are still considered more worth by blizzard |
| 08:11.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll get another couple hit % once I get more T5 and equiv gear. I've got few reasonable upgrades anymore. |
| 08:11.47 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Sleep an combatlog ;) |
| 08:11.51 | art3mis | man those ktm comment rants are great |
| 08:11.59 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: 0/21/40 > affliction :D |
| 08:12.07 | Silviu- | Zealot http://ace.pastey.net/56885 :) |
| 08:12.18 | abyssichate | I am aiming at getting about 130/140ish hit and 1300dmg :s |
| 08:12.22 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: have hydross boots? amazing |
| 08:12.25 | abyssichate | 0/21/40 is really boring |
| 08:12.28 | ZealotOnAStick | 44/0/17. |
| 08:12.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I do have them. |
| 08:12.49 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40014 10CraftList2/ (CraftList2.lua CraftList2.toc): |
| 08:12.49 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 08:12.49 | CIA-22 | - updated toc with more info |
| 08:12.49 | CIA-22 | - setting self.version correctly |
| 08:12.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I want Cord of Screaming Terrors, which hasn't dropped yet (and I need a couple of mages and locks to spend some more DKP) |
| 08:13.00 | Arrowmaster | i doubt ill spec away from 42/0/19 anytime soon |
| 08:13.18 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40015 10Assessment/Modules/Healing.lua: Assessment: Healing module now allows gathering of data similar to damage module - for everyone, no one, or self only |
| 08:13.20 | ckknight | art3mis: hehe |
| 08:13.24 | abyssichate | I couldn't live without HoT and dark pact |
| 08:13.27 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: we had our first drop last kill..bid all my DKP, still didnt get it :( |
| 08:13.28 | ZealotOnAStick | The only way I'll spec out of 44/0/17 anytime soon, is if I have to spec to SL for Leotheras for a bit. |
| 08:13.33 | Arrowmaster | might go demo if i ever get 2/5 tier5 but only for arenas |
| 08:13.41 | xt | abyssichate: get shadow priest :D |
| 08:13.58 | ckknight | art3mis: you'd better be thankful for this all units thing, it's complex |
| 08:14.18 | ZealotOnAStick | xt: pact + shadow priest allows me to cast more or less non-stop and not run out of mana. |
| 08:14.30 | ZealotOnAStick | without both, including with life tap, I eventually peter out. |
| 08:14.43 | art3mis | oh you're raelly adding it? |
| 08:14.47 | art3mis | wicked thanks oodles |
| 08:14.47 | ZealotOnAStick | but with an SP around refreshing my imp's mana as well, I can go essentially forever. |
| 08:14.49 | xt | just tell your shadow priest to do more dmg :D |
| 08:14.49 | Arrowmaster | imp needs more regen |
| 08:15.28 | ckknight | art3mis: I said I was |
| 08:15.30 | ZealotOnAStick | The hunters in our guild moan and whine enough about buffing their pets, I don't bother the paladins. |
| 08:15.40 | Arrowmaster | do shadow priests restore phase shifted imps mana? |
| 08:15.48 | ZealotOnAStick | ayup. |
| 08:15.48 | xt | yeh |
| 08:15.51 | xt | and shamans |
| 08:15.57 | Arrowmaster | i know totems do |
| 08:15.59 | abyssichate | with mana tide and such, eyah |
| 08:16.00 | abyssichate | *yeah |
| 08:16.11 | art3mis | ckknight: heh i thought you were being fecitious ;) |
| 08:16.17 | Arrowmaster | oh now i remember what it was that didnt effect phase shifted imps |
| 08:16.25 | art3mis | so back to my video card question |
| 08:16.26 | abyssichate | blessings? |
| 08:16.36 | Arrowmaster | that aura proudmore has in hyjal |
| 08:16.40 | art3mis | ive noticed that ALOT of reviews dont really tackle 1680x1050 res |
| 08:17.07 | Arrowmaster | the 2x spirit one |
| 08:17.07 | art3mis | are ati still better performers in that arena or has nvidia actually managed to make a go of the higher resolutions? |
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| 08:17.30 | abyssichate | hyjal is a joke as of now :E |
| 08:18.13 | Arrowmaster | i only went in once on ptr |
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| 08:18.39 | Arrowmaster | not even keyed for eye and never been in a SSC raid |
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| 08:19.55 | Diao | afaik none of ati's current cards can match nvidia's cards in performance at any level |
| 08:20.04 | Arrowmaster | or price |
| 08:20.08 | Diao | or price, yes |
| 08:20.49 | Jaxon | Or linux driver support |
| 08:20.59 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 08:21.28 | ZealotOnAStick | The 8800 series from nVidia pretty much are still the god cards. |
| 08:22.04 | Arrowmaster | when i build a new desktop and turn this one into a nix box ill probably swap my x800xtpe in it for my fx5200 |
| 08:23.29 | Stephmw | ZealotOnAStick: yeah, I have a colleague that went SLi with 2 of those |
| 08:23.41 | ZealotOnAStick | that is sick. I'm envious. |
| 08:23.50 | Stephmw | ZealotOnAStick: he was disappointed by the DX10 demo, it was slower under Vista than XP |
| 08:23.56 | Diao | probably spent just as much on cooling as on the cards ;p |
| 08:24.15 | Stephmw | yeah, he's got a small jet engine in his room :) |
| 08:24.48 | Stephmw | I'm quite happy with my 7600GS |
| 08:25.33 | Stephmw | my temps don't change even under load, 40C cpu, 60 gfx and 24C the raid array ;) |
| 08:26.35 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got two 7800 GTXs in SLI. |
| 08:26.39 | ZealotOnAStick | They do OK. |
| 08:26.51 | ZealotOnAStick | But a part of me knows, a single 8800 would outdo them both. |
| 08:26.57 | Stephmw | ;) |
| 08:29.16 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40016 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer: updated zhTW localization |
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| 08:30.04 | art3mis | steph how is yers at high res though |
| 08:30.10 | art3mis | thats what im concerned with |
| 08:30.38 | art3mis | this 7100gs pci-e performs WORSE on lower settings than my x800xl 128mb agp on max settings |
| 08:30.44 | art3mis | at 1680x1050 |
| 08:31.12 | art3mis | and ive got a zalman water cooler so cooling isnt a problem ;P |
| 08:31.16 | Stephmw | art3mis: can't drive my monitor above 1280x1024 ;) |
| 08:31.33 | Stephmw | so I'm peachy |
| 08:31.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:31.38 | art3mis | damn |
| 08:31.51 | art3mis | i think im gonna ditch nvidia again and get a 1950xt |
| 08:31.52 | ZealotOnAStick | uhm, well, the 7100 isn't exactly a top-endish series. |
| 08:32.11 | ZealotOnAStick | it's in the budget line. |
| 08:32.19 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: true but you'd expect better performance from a pci-e 256mb card over a 128mb agp |
| 08:32.30 | ZealotOnAStick | not necessariy. |
| 08:32.43 | ZealotOnAStick | memory bandwidth, memory bus size, number of pixel pipelines . . . |
| 08:32.45 | art3mis | at 1280 they're mostly the same |
| 08:32.57 | art3mis | its when i shift to higher rez that the nvidia bags horribly |
| 08:33.07 | art3mis | hell my x300 outperforms this 7100 |
| 08:33.48 | art3mis | the only thing i dont really like about atis having used them for so long is the cata software |
| 08:33.58 | ZealotOnAStick | That's like saying "Gosh, this MX4000 isn't as good as my GF2 GTS" |
| 08:34.13 | art3mis | the x300 IS in the same range though |
| 08:34.53 | art3mis | even under nix the x300 outperforms the 7100gs |
| 08:35.17 | art3mis | i really hate the numbering systems nvidia uses too ;P |
| 08:35.31 | art3mis | makes finding info difficult ;P |
| 08:36.03 | Diao | o_O |
| 08:36.51 | Diao | their numbering system is simple o_o |
| 08:37.06 | art3mis | and the lettering system? |
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| 08:37.11 | Diao | first number denotes the "series", second number denotes the target market |
| 08:37.12 | art3mis | and thats not true |
| 08:37.29 | art3mis | the 7950 came out at about the same time as the 8800 |
| 08:37.29 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40017 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 08:37.29 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:37.29 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Spell |
| 08:37.32 | art3mis | so........ |
| 08:37.35 | art3mis | err 8600 |
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| 08:37.42 | Diao | and? |
| 08:37.50 | Diao | 7950 was based on the 7 series core |
| 08:37.51 | art3mis | so which would you assume performs better? |
| 08:38.06 | art3mis | with "gooder tech" |
| 08:38.16 | art3mis | funny enough its the 7950 btw |
| 08:38.23 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40018 10ClassTimer/Bars/Warrior.lua: ClassTimer: fixed BS error by changing 'Mace Spec' to 'Mace Specialization' |
| 08:38.34 | art3mis | where as with the ati cards the 1950 is better than the 1650 |
| 08:38.38 | art3mis | shrug |
| 08:39.24 | art3mis | although in searching i did find a hardware shop thats not too badly priced and offers lifetime warranties on everything it sells |
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| 08:42.54 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40019 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: Threat shifted back to using "short" tag.. not sure how I copy-pasted the format("%.1f") in there |
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| 08:44.52 | Stephmw | art3mis: it's lifetime or yours? |
| 08:44.55 | Stephmw | *its |
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| 08:47.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40020 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - remove pointless pass = true's. |
| 08:47.51 | theoddone33 | so, I remember hearing you guys talk about something like this a while back |
| 08:48.07 | abyssichate | buttsex? |
| 08:48.20 | theoddone33 | is there anything existing that just opens a frame with a black background and your character cycling through animations? |
| 08:48.28 | theoddone33 | because it'd be useful for video intros and things |
| 08:48.44 | theoddone33 | I seem to remember that people couldn't control the animations or something |
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| 08:49.44 | art3mis | steph as long as you own the stuff i guess |
| 08:49.54 | art3mis | dunno if its transferable though |
| 08:49.55 | Diao | wow model viewer? |
| 08:50.06 | theoddone33 | well something like that |
| 08:50.11 | theoddone33 | except for a couple things |
| 08:50.25 | theoddone33 | I'm on a mac and the model viewer sucks there... plus it'd take a while to build a character w/ gear, etc |
| 08:50.40 | Diao | :\ |
| 08:50.48 | Boubouille | latest wowmodelviewer let you import characters from the official armory |
| 08:50.49 | Boubouille | ^^ |
| 08:50.55 | art3mis | you could just fraps it as you're spinning on the start up screen |
| 08:51.09 | art3mis | edit out the background and poof! |
| 08:51.19 | theoddone33 | edit out the background... |
| 08:51.25 | theoddone33 | no idea if that's easy or not |
| 08:51.27 | art3mis | you're on a mac |
| 08:51.31 | theoddone33 | i got final cut pro to play with |
| 08:51.32 | art3mis | thats like 4 buttons ;P |
| 08:51.37 | theoddone33 | all I know about it is what the tutorial dvd told me |
| 08:51.54 | theoddone33 | not pro actually, that's like $1300 |
| 08:51.57 | Kalman| | theoddone33: It's kinda a pain if you don't have a chromakey background. |
| 08:52.01 | theoddone33 | final cut mini |
| 08:52.06 | art3mis | hrm |
| 08:52.07 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40021 10CraftList2/localization.lua: |
| 08:52.07 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 08:52.07 | CIA-22 | - deDE update |
| 08:52.21 | art3mis | i guess ill get a x1950xt |
| 08:52.47 | theoddone33 | i was just thinking it'd be handy to have in game, but if you can't control the animations then I guess it's a dead end |
| 08:52.58 | theoddone33 | if it can be done and just doesn't exist yet I could look into writing it |
| 08:53.00 | art3mis | wonder when amd is gonna start making full mobos now that they've got ati tech to put on em |
| 08:53.03 | Kalman| | FCP allows you to do masking, but it's an 8 point mask so it's not going to give you very fine masking. |
| 08:53.13 | art3mis | laptops with sli would rule |
| 08:53.28 | art3mis | you could use them to sear meat inbetween gaming runs |
| 08:53.48 | art3mis | ya know what else would be neat? |
| 08:53.54 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40022 10Cartographer/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Cartographer: koKR Update |
| 08:53.56 | art3mis | fire wire vide cards |
| 08:54.13 | Stephmw | art3mis: you're a masochist |
| 08:54.20 | ZealotOnAStick | art3mis: they make laptops with SLI. |
| 08:54.25 | art3mis | think how cool that would be though |
| 08:54.44 | art3mis | a cable coming from the back of yer machine to a little cube of 4 video cards chained |
| 08:55.09 | Stephmw | art3mis: bit of a bummer about the video bandwidth though |
| 08:55.13 | art3mis | seal: they any good or do they burn to touch? |
| 08:55.17 | art3mis | err zeal |
| 08:55.36 | art3mis | firewire is almost got enough doesnt it? |
| 08:56.09 | art3mis | oo |
| 08:56.11 | theoddone33 | found a tutorial on masking with FCP :P |
| 08:56.17 | clad|sleep | 8-Ball says: "Who knows." |
| 08:56.21 | art3mis | or even a "video interface card" |
| 08:56.25 | Kalman| | art3mis: FW800 is 800 mbps, which isn't bad. PCI-E is 2.5 GBPS per lane. |
| 08:56.38 | art3mis | Kalman|: ahh okay so no |
| 08:56.45 | art3mis | so elts think of this a different way |
| 08:57.06 | art3mis | you take a pci-e slot, and have an adapter card. |
| 08:57.23 | art3mis | which spanns out to the case on a cable |
| 08:57.54 | art3mis | all you're really doing is making a quad card from a single |
| 08:58.11 | art3mis | BUT you're also making it so a double slot board can do an 8 group |
| 08:58.27 | art3mis | AND since tis not in the pc internal heat isnt an issue |
| 08:58.40 | art3mis | and a cube outside can be seperate cooled for better performance |
| 08:58.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40023 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add in a menu "All units". It's rather complex and is really just one giant AceOptions hack. Please test. |
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| 08:59.05 | wobin__ | sob |
| 08:59.10 | wobin__ | I can't even play anymore =( |
| 08:59.12 | wobin__ | I get 0 fps |
| 08:59.16 | art3mis | how come? |
| 08:59.26 | wobin__ | I just reinstalled ubuntu |
| 08:59.30 | wobin__ | and now it's all crap |
| 08:59.31 | ckknight | art3mis: v--- |
| 08:59.33 | ckknight | or ^--- |
| 08:59.35 | ckknight | lousy D/C |
| 08:59.36 | art3mis | wobin__: fedora 7 |
| 08:59.38 | ckknight | art3mis: test the all units thing, I just committed |
| 08:59.49 | art3mis | ckk okies one sec |
| 09:00.01 | Diao | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Inara <- :( a paladin has a better weapon than i do |
| 09:00.21 | Jaxon | wobin__: did you remember to update your xorg.conf with the proper device driver? |
| 09:00.32 | wobin__ | Jaxon: Yeah, I used envy |
| 09:00.45 | Stephmw | meh, envy didn't help for me |
| 09:00.53 | Stephmw | only use it to clear the settings |
| 09:01.04 | Jaxon | Envy? This I'm not familiar with, I got used to editing x11 and xorg conf files by hand |
| 09:01.07 | wobin__ | I might do that |
| 09:01.14 | wobin__ | revert the nvidia driver |
| 09:01.28 | Stephmw | wobin__: are you using the latest beta driver from nvidia? (rather than the one from ubuntu) |
| 09:01.38 | wobin__ | Probably not |
| 09:01.44 | wobin__ | hm |
| 09:01.48 | Kalman| | ckknight: Global settings applied to all frames? |
| 09:02.00 | ckknight | yes |
| 09:02.02 | Kalman| | I love you, man. |
| 09:02.08 | ckknight | it's one huge hack |
| 09:02.10 | ckknight | so complex |
| 09:02.49 | Kalman| | Very nice feature, though. |
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| 09:03.44 | Stephmw | wobin__: I'm using 100.14.03 |
| 09:04.07 | wobin__ | just downloading 100.14.09 atm |
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| 09:05.01 | wobin__ | perhaps twine is more to your liking |
| 09:05.19 | wobin__ | 8 |
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| 09:06.13 | art3mis | ckknight: works perfect except fopr the lag if uyouve got the "tester" units all opten |
| 09:06.27 | chead | uhm, trying to find the answer to how threat-lib kan see the difference on targets... name, level, gender(?), raid Icon? or ? |
| 09:06.34 | chead | can* ;O) |
| 09:06.39 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r40024 10Cosplay/ (Cosplay.lua Cosplay.toc Libs/): |
| 09:06.39 | CIA-22 | Cosplay: |
| 09:06.39 | CIA-22 | - Delay creating the buttons right up to the moment the DressUpFrame is shown. |
| 09:06.39 | CIA-22 | - Made some functions local. |
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| 09:06.58 | art3mis | other than the lag from that resizing with just you and a target it does a nice job and effects the empty ones you open to see the layout great |
| 09:07.22 | ckknight | I have no idea what you just said, art3mis |
| 09:07.24 | ckknight | resizing? |
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| 09:07.47 | art3mis | oh ya know those dummy frames you can open? |
| 09:07.51 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:07.53 | ckknight | yea... |
| 09:07.59 | Kalman| | chead: Name, pretty much. If you can't see it from the combat log and it isn't your action, Threat really can't detect it. |
| 09:08.04 | art3mis | if ya open and do the size mods its pause laggy while its doing its thing |
| 09:08.20 | ckknight | well, that's inevitable, really. |
| 09:08.29 | art3mis | without em though its instance and when you open AFTER setting it up with just target and player open they adhere beautifully |
| 09:08.42 | art3mis | err intant |
| 09:09.11 | art3mis | although im confused as to why you included scale AND h+w |
| 09:10.04 | ckknight | art3mis: that's just what people wanted. |
| 09:11.34 | ckknight | originally it was width + scale |
| 09:11.35 | phyber | perhaps you need to adjust the height/width so that the text fits in it! (Note: I don't know what you're talking about or if it even has text) |
| 09:11.37 | ckknight | I think |
| 09:11.46 | ckknight | phyber: PitBull |
| 09:11.57 | chead | ok thank, Kalman| |
| 09:11.59 | phyber | ah, then yes. :) |
| 09:12.58 | art3mis | hrm i suppose it makes some sense |
| 09:13.09 | art3mis | but the h+w does a sorta scale on its own |
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| 09:13.30 | Fisker- | you suck and you should feel bad |
| 09:13.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40025 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - possible optimization with all frames and layout updates. |
| 09:13.34 | art3mis | and does it better than scale since you can still read the frames ;P |
| 09:13.38 | wobin_ | lets see how this goes |
| 09:13.45 | ckknight | the icons and stuff increase size with scale |
| 09:14.08 | art3mis | wobin_: ditch unbuntu |
| 09:14.12 | xt | ckknight: I dont know if my question..but is it possible to get several lines within a tag? |
| 09:14.14 | art3mis | go get fedora 7 ;P |
| 09:14.19 | xt | like Name\r\nHealth |
| 09:14.25 | wobin_ | art3mis: meh, ubuntu is easy for me |
| 09:14.28 | art3mis | its pertier and LOVES nvidia out of the box |
| 09:14.30 | ckknight | xt: no, use multiple fontstrings |
| 09:14.36 | art3mis | wobin_: same diff |
| 09:14.43 | wobin_ | I don't want to have to do too much work |
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| 09:14.47 | xt | ckknight: was thinking within pitbull unitframes |
| 09:14.47 | art3mis | you dont |
| 09:14.51 | art3mis | thast the nice thing |
| 09:14.59 | ckknight | xt: yes, use multiple fontstrings. |
| 09:15.00 | xt | ckknight: because I can never see the full name of the mob in pitbull |
| 09:15.05 | ckknight | so move it. |
| 09:15.07 | art3mis | installed it this afternoon for something to do on a work machine |
| 09:15.19 | xt | ckknight: i'll try, thanks :> |
| 09:15.20 | art3mis | took all of 45 mins start to finish including auto updates |
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| 09:15.33 | ckknight | xt: there are many places it can move to so that it will stretch properly |
| 09:15.38 | art3mis | and i didnt have to futz around with hardware problems |
| 09:15.40 | phyber | 45mins is a long time. netinstall on a slow link or something? |
| 09:15.51 | art3mis | the updates were the slow part |
| 09:15.56 | xt | ckknight: yeh, i saw those options. liek outside the frames, and over and such |
| 09:16.02 | Lywellyn | Hello all. :p |
| 09:16.02 | ckknight | right |
| 09:16.07 | ckknight | hey Lywellyn |
| 09:16.08 | art3mis | i was bagging it running 3 vpn connections to clients machines |
| 09:16.18 | xt | i'd rather have it inside the Health Bar though..but in two lines |
| 09:16.25 | xt | and didnt figure out how |
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| 09:16.27 | ckknight | xt: well you don't get that. |
| 09:16.35 | ckknight | and I'm not gonna be giving it to you |
| 09:16.45 | xt | Good enough answer for me :) |
| 09:16.46 | ckknight | too complex |
| 09:16.49 | art3mis | i used to be fbsd, and if it supported the hardware in my machine out of box i'd still be using it |
| 09:16.57 | art3mis | then i went to suse cuz i love yast |
| 09:17.03 | ckknight | my goal is to do a bunch of layout commits soon, to really make the layouts more powerful |
| 09:17.06 | xt | I could just reduce the amount of numbers.. :) |
| 09:17.17 | art3mis | and now im in fedora cuz suse uses a new xorg that hates every video card i own ;P |
| 09:17.18 | xt | informational style uses a lot of space |
| 09:17.23 | wobin_ | fedora uses rpms and stuff, yeh? |
| 09:17.27 | xt | yeh |
| 09:17.27 | art3mis | yeah |
| 09:17.29 | Lywellyn | So I was curious about getting SVN access for checking out mods in the branch a lot easier....but I want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly so I don't be "the noob that screwed something simple up" :3 |
| 09:17.36 | ckknight | e.g. arbitrary placement of bars (so that if you want power above health, you'll be able to), also arbitrary placement of icons. Also arbitrary creation of fontstrings. |
| 09:17.36 | wobin_ | Cause I love me some apt-get et al |
| 09:17.40 | art3mis | whats neat though is its got a software manager |
| 09:17.54 | Roartindon | Lywellyn: You don't need svn access to checkout stuff... only to commit |
| 09:18.00 | wobin_ | and *pow* 12fps! |
| 09:18.02 | art3mis | you find an rpm on a site and the software mana ger catches it and installs it for your system specs/settings |
| 09:18.07 | wobin_ | (That's 12 more than I had earlier =)) |
| 09:18.11 | FtH|Daemona | lo peeps |
| 09:18.11 | art3mis | without any addition file moves or commandline |
| 09:18.14 | Lywellyn | Ah, okay. |
| 09:18.29 | wobin_ | art3mis: So does the package manager in ubuntu |
| 09:18.37 | art3mis | nods prolly the same thingy |
| 09:18.52 | Fisker- | http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/06/14/180222.shtml i lol'd |
| 09:19.00 | wobin_ | I'm going to see how playable it is currently |
| 09:19.23 | art3mis | im a long time whore of urs/ports ;P |
| 09:19.27 | art3mis | usr/ports |
| 09:19.44 | art3mis | yast is the best in my opinion for browsing and getting shit |
| 09:19.52 | art3mis | never really like aptget |
| 09:19.53 | phyber | Fisker-: a computer server! man, I want something to server me computers. that's neat! |
| 09:20.21 | art3mis | hehe tomorrow i get to build an exchance 2k3 box +good link for free! |
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| 09:20.37 | art3mis | and just got setting up my phone once i get a free motorola Q |
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| 09:21.02 | art3mis | insert commas in the above so it makes more sense |
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| 09:23.42 | Lywellyn2 | H'okay. That's not good. ANyways, if anyone answered my mIRC question, I *totally* didn't get the answer :( |
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| 09:25.43 | Lywellyn2 | Can an op kick "Lywellyn" please? Unless it autokicks after a certain time... |
| 09:26.06 | [dRaCo] | kicking wont change anything, since the client will still be connected |
| 09:26.13 | [dRaCo] | just wait for it to timeout |
| 09:26.31 | [dRaCo] | or use /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <pw> if it's a registered nick |
| 09:27.02 | Lywellyn2 | cool. |
| 09:27.19 | Lywellyn | Thank you. |
| 09:27.23 | [dRaCo] | =) |
| 09:27.53 | Lywellyn | the client wasn't still connected, my inet cut out, and I used the client to reconnect, but since the nick was still "active" it wouldn't let me replace it :p |
| 09:28.33 | [dRaCo] | It was connected as in "the connection to the server wasn't closed" |
| 09:28.57 | Awaa | Athou: /poke |
| 09:29.10 | Athou | :o |
| 09:29.39 | Awaa | Athou: Having issues with cl2 |
| 09:29.51 | Athou | shoot |
| 09:30.02 | Awaa | local test works, but not whispers |
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| 09:31.13 | Athou | when a query is received or when you try to send yourself a list to someone ? |
| 09:31.37 | Awaa | Query |
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| 09:32.28 | Zurks | Little question regarding Pitbull: I just made the switch from AG(at last), and my player frame randomly flashes red when in combat. Is this a module that can be disabled? |
| 09:33.03 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar/listmembers.php <-anyone know how i got armory profiles in? |
| 09:33.14 | Athou | there's an option to show your answers, make sure it's checked |
| 09:33.14 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 09:33.37 | Lywellyn | Question: What's the URL to use when checking out? files.wowace.com/branch? |
| 09:33.38 | Awaa | Atho: http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3104/cl2erroryj3.png |
| 09:34.07 | Athou | thx |
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| 09:35.30 | Awaa | (Using 2.0 r40014) |
| 09:36.06 | Athou | ok i have the same issue here |
| 09:36.11 | Athou | let me look into that |
| 09:37.45 | abbat_w | I also have little question |
| 09:37.48 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar/listmembers.php <-anyone know the armory thingy they've put on it? |
| 09:37.55 | abbat_w | Don't sure maybe it's now common problem |
| 09:38.18 | abbat_w | But after i join into BG, 90% times i have freeze about 10-20 sec |
| 09:38.33 | abbat_w | Doesn't matter which unit frames i use, agUF or PitBull |
| 09:38.38 | ZealotOnAStick | what about it, Fisker? |
| 09:39.00 | abbat_w | This problem always fire if i join and bg raid already have 10+ members |
| 09:39.31 | Lywellyn | abbat_w: Yeah, they're still looking into it. They haven't pinpointed the cause just yet. |
| 09:39.46 | abbat_w | I try to use std unit frames one time - all ok. But i can't play with std ui now |
| 09:40.08 | Lywellyn | I don't want to stop using agUF....spent a lot of time setting it up just how I like it. |
| 09:40.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker-: ping |
| 09:40.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker-: what about the armory thing? |
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| 09:41.27 | ckknight | abbat_w: recent PitBull? |
| 09:41.35 | ckknight | abbat_w: I thought I fixed that issue. |
| 09:41.46 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40027 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 09:41.46 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 09:41.46 | CIA-22 | - wrong handler used in query process |
| 09:42.10 | Athou | Awaa: should be fixed, thanks |
| 09:42.38 | abbat_w | ckknight, i play last night, update all plugins before start playing |
| 09:42.44 | Fisker- | ZealotOnAStick know what mod it is? :D |
| 09:42.52 | ckknight | abbat_w: and PitBull itself? |
| 09:42.58 | Fisker- | My old guild apparently put it in on the sites!1 |
| 09:42.59 | abbat_w | about 19:00 CEST i think |
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| 09:43.12 | Lywellyn | ckknight: What's the URL to use when checking out of an SVN branch? |
| 09:43.27 | ckknight | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/... |
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| 09:44.25 | abbat_w | ckknight, maybe you fix it after i update. Try again today. Anyway it's only after join. Problem with freeze not critical, just some annoying ;) |
| 09:44.52 | Lywellyn | ckknight: it's not liking that one. Says it can't find .svn/entries |
| 09:44.54 | abbat_w | btw |
| 09:45.04 | ckknight | what are you trying to get? |
| 09:45.29 | abbat_w | i change font on PitBull auras timers to Myriad.ttf. Looks fantastic and good readable |
| 09:45.41 | Lywellyn | andreasg mentioned that he has a working branch of his agUF that he wants people to try to fix the BG freeze issue. I want to test it, and I'd like to make it easy by checking out with TortoiseSVN |
| 09:46.51 | Zurks | Anyone mind answering my question about pitbull? |
| 09:47.12 | Zurks | My player frame randomly flashes red when in combat. Is this a module that can be disabled? |
| 09:47.16 | Loki|muh | its the aggro modul |
| 09:47.28 | Zurks | Oh - in the player options? |
| 09:47.30 | Loki|muh | a player is red when he has aggro |
| 09:47.38 | abbat_w | Zurks, it's maybe debuff highlighting |
| 09:47.41 | Loki|muh | in the party module i think |
| 09:47.45 | abbat_w | Or someone got aggro |
| 09:47.59 | Zurks | Mkay, thanks |
| 09:48.09 | abbat_w | Ah, btw! |
| 09:48.19 | abbat_w | My GridAlert now won't play sound ;) |
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| 09:49.14 | ckknight | Zurks: Banzai |
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| 09:49.52 | abbat_w | You can disable pitbull_banzai |
| 09:50.01 | abbat_w | But don't disable banzai alert |
| 09:50.25 | abbat_w | Even in pvp it's nice to listen 'aggro' before someone charge into you ;) |
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| 09:51.32 | abbat_w | btw guys, someone use eePanels? |
| 09:51.33 | Awaa | Athou: /poke :o |
| 09:51.39 | Awaa | Athou: CraftList2\localization.lua:256: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 09:51.57 | abbat_w | this mod use huge memory for making panels? |
| 09:54.26 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40028 10CraftList2/localization.lua: |
| 09:54.26 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 09:54.26 | CIA-22 | - deDE fix |
| 09:55.49 | theoddone33 | hmm |
| 09:55.56 | abbat_w | btw |
| 09:55.58 | theoddone33 | actually the wow model viewer for mac has made a lot of progress |
| 09:56.07 | theoddone33 | but it still doesn't know about any tbc items |
| 09:56.19 | abbat_w | some unit frames have option 'debuff filtering' and 'buff filtering'. What is it? |
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| 09:56.47 | abbat_w | if i mage and turn debuff filtering on, which debuffs will be filtered? |
| 09:58.34 | theoddone33 | on aguf I think it had to do with only showing things you could dispell |
| 09:58.54 | theoddone33 | so I believe everything but curses would be filtered for a mage, but I could be wrong |
| 09:59.10 | abbat_w | I.e. i see only my debuffs (like sheep/detect magic) and also debufs which i can dispel? |
| 09:59.12 | theoddone33 | same with buff filtering, only buffs you provide |
| 09:59.26 | theoddone33 | hm, I don't know about offensive debuffs |
| 09:59.30 | theoddone33 | that would make sense though |
| 09:59.49 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40029 10CraftList2/localization.lua: |
| 09:59.49 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 09:59.49 | CIA-22 | - deDE fix (again) |
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| 10:00.11 | abbat_w | hmm... i ask because i use focus frame for sheeping/csing and look at sheep/cs timer at debuffs |
| 10:00.14 | Lywellyn | Just not Athou's night. :p |
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| 10:09.02 | Awaa | Athou: CraftList2.lue:8: attempt to concatenate local 'MINOR_VERSION' (a nil value) |
| 10:09.05 | Lywellyn | bah, still freezing on BG join for agUF. ;_; |
| 10:10.23 | ckknight | try PitBull? |
| 10:10.57 | abyssichate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIuRM-NDcg4 |
| 10:10.59 | abyssichate | this is scary |
| 10:12.30 | xystic | out of curiosity, do you all play WoW actively too? |
| 10:13.26 | ckknight | give or take |
| 10:13.33 | Fisker- | oh my god |
| 10:14.02 | Fisker- | OMFG |
| 10:14.05 | Athou | Awaa: update from files.wowace.com the error should go away |
| 10:14.06 | Fisker- | n00bville |
| 10:14.09 | Fisker- | heheheh that was funny |
| 10:14.12 | Fisker- | NO IT WASN'T |
| 10:14.52 | abyssichate | noobville! |
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| 10:19.37 | Wogroipl_ | would it be possible to add an advance waring for the curse from Attumen into Bigwigs? |
| 10:20.39 | Wogroipl | we sometimes kill him without anyone to remoive the curse, and our tank would like a few seconds to be able to activate shield reflect |
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| 10:22.59 | Iceroth | speaking of bigwigs, can the quake in maggy be timed? |
| 10:23.15 | Fisker- | i doubt it |
| 10:23.21 | Fisker- | it's not consistent atleast |
| 10:23.47 | Iceroth | hmm, it has looked like it has some kind of a pattern though |
| 10:23.51 | Fisker- | Sometimes earthquake even overlap the flame nova thingy |
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| 10:24.08 | Iceroth | first half of the fight it seems to be a bit earlier than cube clicking, 2nd half after |
| 10:24.22 | Zurks | It has a cooldown, I'm pretty sure |
| 10:25.30 | Iceroth | nothing is cooler than getting quaked in front of him and eating the cleave |
| 10:26.50 | Daemona | thats what you got strafe left and right for -.- |
| 10:27.06 | Daemona | cause you can strafe during quake, but not move forward or backwards -.- |
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| 10:34.49 | Fisker- | btw abyssichate |
| 10:34.51 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOJh1XBABo0 |
| 10:34.58 | abbat_w | btw |
| 10:35.06 | abyssichate | watching |
| 10:35.12 | abbat_w | where is class coloring in Fubar_HonorFu? |
| 10:35.20 | abyssichate | oh, he is not mentally retarded then |
| 10:35.37 | abbat_w | before patch this mod do coloring score frame at bgs |
| 10:35.45 | abbat_w | now they won't color something ;( |
| 10:36.06 | Fisker- | i hope he dies in a horrible fire accident abyssichate |
| 10:37.26 | abyssichate | *toilet paper alert* |
| 10:38.49 | abyssichate | Was this you commenting, Fisker-: |
| 10:38.49 | abyssichate | nobody uses one fucking square you faggot |
| 10:38.49 | abyssichate | kill yourself |
| 10:40.08 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1181903817822.jpg |
| 10:40.10 | Fisker- | yay |
| 10:40.15 | Fisker- | no abyssichate :o |
| 10:44.22 | Lywellyn | oh god. a /b/tard. |
| 10:44.24 | Lywellyn | :p |
| 10:46.58 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/search.xml?searchQuery=pedobear&searchType=all |
| 10:46.59 | Fisker- | hrm |
| 10:47.24 | Lywellyn | whoa |
| 10:49.12 | kebinusan | Ive havent been banned for my alt guild name yet, <I HAVE CANDY GET IN VAN> |
| 10:49.37 | Lywellyn | omg it's a fucking lion get in the car |
| 10:50.20 | Punkie` | lolling at the lvl 64 |
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| 10:51.43 | abyssichate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIBxevHw2P4 |
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| 10:59.39 | zoktar | anyone know a addon for better "Tickets" ? futicket? =P |
| 10:59.55 | haste | ask Fisker- D: |
| 10:59.56 | clad|sleep | 8-Ball says: "Hmmm, that's a tough question." |
| 11:00.27 | Fisker- | D: haste |
| 11:00.34 | Fisker- | but there is none zoktar |
| 11:00.42 | Fisker- | i told nymbia to get off his butt and start working |
| 11:00.53 | Fisker- | but threatening people with slavery and death isn't working |
| 11:00.55 | Fisker- | ..yet |
| 11:01.16 | Hajitorus | more whipping required? |
| 11:01.28 | Fisker- | apparently |
| 11:01.41 | zoktar | Fisker- kk |
| 11:02.09 | Hajitorus | is svn ace2 or babble broken, or am i doing it wrong? |
| 11:03.32 | Hajitorus | either way i think i have to make my updater keep backups :P |
| 11:04.26 | wobin_ | I still think the best name we had to ban once was "Deanalator" |
| 11:04.35 | wobin_ | "My name's Dean! No really!" |
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| 11:05.35 | wobin_ | It was like straight out of a SNL Jeopardy skit =P |
| 11:06.44 | wobin_ | <SeanConnery>I'll take Jap Anus Relations for 200 thanks</SeanConnery> |
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| 11:18.22 | mitch0 | yo |
| 11:18.48 | Athou | CIA-22 is gone again :( |
| 11:19.13 | mitch0 | can someone tell me what's the reason behind the following directory layout for libs?: Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc, Threate-1.0/Threat-1.0/{rest-of-the-files} |
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| 11:19.48 | mitch0 | I've seen it with other libs, too, so probly there's a reason which I fail to see |
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| 11:20.31 | Nargiddley | so when an addon embeds a lib it gets the folder with no toc |
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| 11:21.01 | mitch0 | nargiddley: thanks. was thinking along those lines, just wanted to be sure |
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| 11:21.30 | mitch0 | guess it would cause some error during load if blizz found more toc's there, right? |
| 11:21.41 | Nargiddley | nope |
| 11:21.47 | mitch0 | hm. then? |
| 11:21.55 | mitch0 | just "save the space"? |
| 11:22.13 | Nargiddley | i dont know the exact reasoning behind it |
| 11:22.23 | mitch0 | oh, ok |
| 11:22.43 | mitch0 | well, someone who knows, should update http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLibrary_Tutorial |
| 11:23.30 | mitch0 | btw, any of the Violation devs around? |
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| 11:32.50 | [Ammo] | mitch0: depends on your question :) |
| 11:33.59 | mikma | i have a question too |
| 11:34.07 | mikma | which came first, chicken or egg? |
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| 11:34.41 | wobin_ | The egg. The chicken took advantage of some spam mail to prevent the premature ejaculation. |
| 11:35.12 | Hjalte | Is Threat-1.0 out of "alpha" now? I don't see the message on login at least. |
| 11:36.03 | xt | it's beta |
| 11:36.04 | xt | ! |
| 11:36.37 | abbat_w | uh, mikma ;) |
| 11:36.45 | abbat_w | long time no see you |
| 11:37.50 | Health | bah.. go back to the black hole |
| 11:40.54 | mikma | abbat_w: ok :) |
| 11:45.08 | Ominous | morning |
| 11:46.06 | Hajitorus | ... okay, I was doing it wrong. That'll teach me to write my own wowace client. :( |
| 11:46.18 | mitch0 | ammo: it seems that the pet data is still not merged with my own damage |
| 11:46.31 | mitch0 | ammo: Water Elemental, not "normal" pet |
| 11:46.38 | [Ammo] | oh that |
| 11:46.42 | [Ammo] | not sure |
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| 11:48.00 | mitch0 | I need to use AceEvent if my lib doesn't have a frame of its own, right? |
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| 11:52.09 | Hajitorus | Is there a wau that works for macs? I have a little homebrew script that works, but I don't like using a weird client. |
| 11:52.34 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 11:52.43 | Fisker- | there's some WAU alternatives though |
| 11:55.37 | Hajitorus | Thanks Fisker-. :) |
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| 11:58.21 | mitch0 | haji: I update with svn. works for me |
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| 12:03.35 | mitch0 | is there an AceEvent that gets fired after the tooltips are initialized properly? |
| 12:03.55 | mitch0 | I need to parse the tooltips for spell ranges, but on PLAYER_ALIVE they show the values without talent modifiers |
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| 12:09.43 | Hajitorus | mitch0: really i just wanted an excuse to use hpricot to parse the addons xml and grab the latest no-ext zips :P |
| 12:11.05 | mitch0 | I don't understand half of that, but if you ask me, do as you wish :P |
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| 12:13.06 | Hajitorus | i wanted an excuse to write a script that would download things the "hard" way rather than using svn |
| 12:14.04 | mitch0 | ah. |
| 12:14.19 | mitch0 | nice project. but what's the point? :) |
| 12:14.59 | Hajitorus | couldn't access wau with my mac, this was before boot camp was really viable |
| 12:15.59 | Hajitorus | and i got sick of downloading zips manually :P |
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| 12:19.31 | mitch0 | yeah, that's why I'm migrating most of my stuff to ace (where possible). I like to update with a single command (well, a single script that does svn up --ignore-externals in each of my addon folders) |
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| 12:20.49 | mitch0 | would be nice if all authors hosted their development on wowace, even if their addons are not really ace addons :) |
| 12:21.10 | aquanda | can anyone answer a quick question which is probably simple/dumb? |
| 12:21.22 | mitch0 | not unless to ask it first... |
| 12:21.22 | Hajitorus | i'd do that, but i'm too lazy to pull from svn, rather let a single xml file tell me what to pull selectively. i'm sure there's not much difference either way, though. |
| 12:21.40 | aquanda | how do i make use of parserlib, as it's not a standalone |
| 12:21.51 | aquanda | trying to get my chronometers to work correctly |
| 12:22.22 | mitch0 | there is some other parsing lib afaik |
| 12:22.25 | mitch0 | prat? |
| 12:22.50 | aquanda | prat is installed as well ya |
| 12:22.53 | aquanda | afaik=? |
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| 12:23.00 | mitch0 | as far as I know |
| 12:23.30 | aquanda | i'll link you to the forum post in question |
| 12:23.32 | mitch0 | haven't used any of those libs myself, so can't really help you with specifics |
| 12:23.42 | aquanda | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6734.0 |
| 12:24.15 | aquanda | well, do i need to place parserlib in a certain folder or will chrono automatically make use of parserlib if it's just in the addons foldr |
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| 12:32.18 | Ominous | wtf |
| 12:32.32 | Ominous | self:Print(v.dispelType) prints a string, self:Print(v.dispelType .. 'color') prints nil |
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| 12:33.28 | Athou | (v.dispelType) .. 'color' maybe ? |
| 12:33.40 | Ominous | i just relised, dont think i reloaded =D |
| 12:33.53 | Athou | :> |
| 12:35.38 | mitch0 | aquanda: I think you need to get an instance of parserlib from AceLibrary |
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| 12:36.18 | mitch0 | aquanda: forget it, wrong advice |
| 12:36.20 | Morghus | I keep getting errors like these: http://ace.pastey.net/56893 |
| 12:36.38 | aquanda | k |
| 12:36.51 | mitch0 | aquanda: I thought you were the author |
| 12:37.46 | mitch0 | aquanda: you should just be fine with downloading ParserLib and placing it in Interface/Addons |
| 12:38.06 | mitch0 | check on the addons page (at login) if it's enabled |
| 12:40.39 | Droolio | does anyone know if the AceComm limit of 20 values includes the individual elements of a table or does the table count as one? |
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| 12:46.12 | mitch0 | ammo: still around? |
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| 12:49.21 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 12:49.52 | mitch0 | can you help me with some issues regarding writing a lib? :) |
| 12:50.11 | [Ammo] | depends :) |
| 12:50.16 | [Ammo] | just spew your questions here |
| 12:50.23 | [Ammo] | there's a lot of great minds on the channel :) |
| 12:50.28 | Lywellyn | What is the meaning of life? |
| 12:50.29 | mitch0 | like, do I really need AceEvent or it's easier to just add a frame to the lib |
| 12:50.44 | mitch0 | (I need to RegisterEvent) |
| 12:51.33 | [Ammo] | is your lib going to fire events? |
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| 12:51.41 | mitch0 | no |
| 12:51.54 | mitch0 | just listen on some, like SPELLS_CHANGED or somesuch |
| 12:52.15 | Fisker- | oh h |
| 12:52.17 | Fisker- | hi |
| 12:52.43 | mitch0 | actually, just LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB and CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED |
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| 12:54.47 | [Ammo] | mitch0: then use your won frame |
| 12:54.48 | [Ammo] | own |
| 12:55.04 | mitch0 | <ui> is a frame as well? |
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| 12:55.53 | mitch0 | (it should be an embeddable library, if that makes any difference) |
| 12:56.02 | [Ammo] | use createframe etc |
| 12:56.43 | mitch0 | hm... how much bloat is AceEvent? :) it's getting to sound easier |
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| 12:57.05 | mitch0 | besides, I'd really like an event fired after the tooltips are properly updated, probly this could be done with aceevent |
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| 13:01.40 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: what kind of tooltips? |
| 13:03.18 | mitch0 | tooltips for spells specifically |
| 13:03.46 | mitch0 | josh: the latest event I found during "startup" is PLAYER_ALIVE, and at that time the tooltips are not updated with talent specific info |
| 13:03.53 | mitch0 | I parse the spell ranges from there |
| 13:04.08 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers#GameTooltip |
| 13:04.18 | Josh_Borke | what tooltips? sorry, i haven't been here |
| 13:05.12 | mitch0 | josh: basically, I iterate over some spells, and get their ranges by setting a custom gametooltip (or via gratuity, but that does the same) |
| 13:05.20 | mitch0 | and parsing that |
| 13:06.11 | mitch0 | but at the time PLAYER_ALIVE is fired, the tooltip texts show the ranges without talent effects |
| 13:06.50 | mitch0 | but if I postpone the init till like the first PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED, I get the correct ranges |
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| 13:07.36 | mitch0 | so, basically I'd need an event that fires only once, but at a time when the tooltip would give me the correct spell ranges |
| 13:08.27 | [dRaCo] | why don't u unregister that event after parsing your infos? |
| 13:09.38 | mitch0 | well, PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED worked for me at that time, but I'm converting the main functionality of the addon to t lib (I'm talking about RangeCheck, btw) |
| 13:10.14 | mitch0 | so someone might request a range without PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGE ever fired |
| 13:10.32 | mitch0 | (for example I'd like to add range display to TinyTips) |
| 13:11.30 | mitch0 | I could do the init check at the getRange() function, but that's one unnecessary "if" there, and this function could potentially be called from an OnUpdate() somehwere, so it should be as fast as possible |
| 13:11.54 | mitch0 | maybe I'm overreacting this, and that single if there wouldn't be noticable... |
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| 13:17.02 | clad|sleep | mitch0: PLAYER_LOGIN and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD aren't sufficient for you |
| 13:17.02 | clad|sleep | ? |
| 13:18.02 | mitch0 | clad: they are fired even before PLAYER_ALIVE, so no |
| 13:18.16 | clad|sleep | What about waiting for the first OnUpdate after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
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| 13:18.43 | mitch0 | I haven't tried that yet |
| 13:18.47 | mitch0 | will give it a shot |
| 13:18.58 | clad|work | mitch0: That would be more reliable than PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 13:19.10 | mitch0 | if it works, yes :) |
| 13:19.10 | clad|work | is all i'm thinking |
| 13:19.23 | clad|work | its an old hack we used to use in Ace1 to say the system was really started |
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| 13:19.40 | mitch0 | player_target_changed only worked before because that was the first time anyone (RangeCheck alone was that anyone) could request a range display |
| 13:20.20 | Morghus | AceConsole errors on a rampage >.> http://ace.pastey.net/56893 |
| 13:20.26 | clad|work | yeah |
| 13:20.34 | clad|work | mitch0: Let me know if it works for you, if not I'll hunt for a different event |
| 13:20.51 | mitch0 | clad: ok |
| 13:21.19 | mitch0 | can AceEvent forward OnUpdate() or for that I need my own frame? |
| 13:21.34 | mitch0 | still can't quite decide to do it with AceEvent or a frame... |
| 13:22.04 | mitch0 | clad: any opinions about that ^ ? (it's an embeddable lib) |
| 13:22.20 | clad|work | you knwo what |
| 13:22.25 | clad|work | fire it at UNIT_HEALTH |
| 13:22.28 | clad|work | and then unregister for UNIT_HEALTH |
| 13:22.39 | clad|work | it _has_ to fire, and it doesn't seem to fire until well after the first OnUpdate |
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| 13:23.01 | mitch0 | why does it have to fire? |
| 13:23.20 | mitch0 | (I trust you on that, don't bother :) |
| 13:23.39 | clad|work | hrm wait. |
| 13:23.39 | clad|work | lol |
| 13:23.39 | clad|work | i lied =) |
| 13:23.39 | clad|work | i'm ina raid, its the only reason it fired. |
| 13:23.43 | mitch0 | eh |
| 13:24.01 | mitch0 | I'll try the OnUpdate trick. (but can you unregister from OnUpdate?) |
| 13:24.13 | sbu | ckknight: are leader+loot master icons already moveable? |
| 13:24.16 | clad|work | yes you can |
| 13:24.22 | clad|work | mitch0: use MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED |
| 13:24.27 | clad|work | and unregister it after the fact |
| 13:24.32 | LordRhys | hi all, having some problems setting auto properties in TortoiseSVN, can't commit to Ace SVN |
| 13:24.32 | clad|work | that _does_ fire every init sequence |
| 13:24.58 | mitch0 | clad: huh, that's a strange event to look for :) |
| 13:25.01 | mitch0 | but I'll try |
| 13:25.21 | clad|work | mitch0: Yeah, but it fires at the right time... not that we have any idea why =)_ |
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| 13:25.46 | clad|work | to be clear, there's no SPELL_LEARNED_IN_TAB or anything like that you could use? |
| 13:26.16 | mitch0 | clad: as far as I remember, I tried those |
| 13:26.22 | clad|work | ok |
| 13:26.28 | clad|work | I'd just load up DevTools |
| 13:26.30 | clad|work | use /dtevents |
| 13:26.31 | mitch0 | but I'll check again. at that time I didn't think about deregistering from them |
| 13:26.35 | clad|work | and try them one at a time =) |
| 13:26.57 | mitch0 | so maybe I ditched SPELLS_CHANGED or any of those 'cos they fired too often |
| 13:27.59 | LordRhys | was wondering if anyone could look at post I put in AceSVN topic in forums to let me know what I am missing? |
| 13:29.19 | mitch0 | is "this" a reserved word somehow? or if I don't have a frame (from xml), I could use something like local this = createFrame() and later this:RegisterEvent()? |
| 13:30.41 | mitch0 | I need a list of pros/cons for using AceEvent. I can't make up my mind! :) |
| 13:30.50 | mitch0 | brb (smoke) |
| 13:31.29 | Ominous | OMG i couldnt work out why something wasent working in my mod.... seems i didnt enable to setting oO |
| 13:31.43 | clad|work | mitch0: its set globally, you should not use it. |
| 13:32.07 | clad|work | mitch0: Its not a reserved keyword, but do not use it =) |
| 13:32.32 | clad|work | if you'r edoing this from ace, you don't need to create a frame, tho |
| 13:34.01 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296569911&postId=2962833406&sid=1#0 |
| 13:34.02 | Fisker- | HAHAHAHAH |
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| 13:34.37 | clad|work | Fisker-: ? |
| 13:34.43 | Shirik | I don't get it |
| 13:34.49 | Fisker- | Look at the subjectline |
| 13:34.51 | clad|work | me neither |
| 13:34.52 | Fisker- | the date in there |
| 13:35.07 | Shirik | I still don't get it |
| 13:35.07 | clad|work | ... yes he typed 7002 |
| 13:35.11 | clad|work | instead of 2007 |
| 13:35.11 | clad|work | ? |
| 13:35.31 | clad|work | ? |
| 13:35.34 | Fisker- | 0. I come from the year 7002? | 15/06/2007 15:33:51 CEST |
| 13:35.42 | Fisker- | well |
| 13:35.48 | Fisker- | irc here isn't parsing the mirroring char |
| 13:35.53 | Fisker- | but look after my subject |
| 13:35.55 | Fisker- | and look at the date |
| 13:36.14 | Fisker- | only works if you don't have a crappy browser |
| 13:36.15 | clad|work | yes, its 15/06/2007 |
| 13:36.15 | Shirik | I... |
| 13:36.17 | clad|work | cause that's today |
| 13:36.17 | Shirik | still don't get it |
| 13:36.22 | Shirik | firefox? |
| 13:36.31 | Ominous | hmm commits are slow |
| 13:36.34 | Fisker- | might be your browser sucks |
| 13:36.38 | Fisker- | but i'll screenshot it for you then |
| 13:36.41 | Ominous | ah cia has left |
| 13:36.44 | clad|work | no i see it now |
| 13:36.44 | clad|work | but |
| 13:36.48 | clad|work | its still not funny |
| 13:36.52 | Fisker- | it is too :( |
| 13:37.01 | clad|work | the TOPIC subject is fine |
| 13:37.05 | clad|work | the OP subject is borked. |
| 13:37.14 | Fisker- | Probably gonna get banned for raping their forum |
| 13:37.43 | Fisker- | https://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296569910&sid=1 |
| 13:38.13 | clad|work | and whats the source reveal |
| 13:38.20 | clad|work | we can't quote it becuase we dont have accounts on this forum |
| 13:38.31 | clad|work | but i still don't get it as "funny".. but then again im an asshole and killjoy ={ |
| 13:38.38 | Fisker- | It just reverses the text in the quotebox |
| 13:38.39 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:38.39 | mikma | epix thread |
| 13:38.56 | clad|work | okay |
| 13:39.23 | Shirik | I still don't get it |
| 13:39.57 | Shirik | bleh |
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| 13:45.32 | LordRhys | Getting following type of errors when i try to commit: Error: trunk/FuBar_WarriorAlertFu/WarriorAlertFu.lua : svn:eol-style is not set |
| 13:45.55 | LordRhys | have following in my CONFIG file: *.lua = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native |
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| 13:46.15 | LordRhys | getting same for all the other files also can't figure it out |
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| 13:47.18 | LordRhys | can anyone give me a hand with solution? |
| 13:48.43 | Punkie` | Fisker-: congratulations on finding the character that reverses text behind it :) |
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| 13:51.45 | Punkie` | LordRhys: Have you restarted your computer? |
| 13:52.41 | LordRhys | hmm.. probably not since I'm at work I can give that a try since its a diff computer than this, let me do that |
| 13:52.57 | Punkie` | it worked for me :) |
| 13:53.06 | kebinusan | character that reverses text? |
| 13:53.18 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:53.44 | kebinusan | oh yeah makes sense cause some things read from right to left or w/e |
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| 13:55.35 | Punkie` | i used to use it at the end of MSN conversations, was pretty funny :P |
| 13:55.42 | mitch0 | hm. maybe I'm a bit mixed up on the meaning of embeddable libs |
| 13:55.43 | Punkie` | i think they fixed it though |
| 13:56.02 | Chompers | where exactly is this char? |
| 13:56.18 | Ominous | LordRhys: svn co ... --auto-props |
| 13:56.44 | mitch0 | should an embeddable lib even register itself into AceLibrary? |
| 13:58.16 | LordRhys | ok reboot didn't help it |
| 13:59.58 | Punkie` | weird, it worked for me |
| 14:02.43 | LordRhys | the config file is located in document and settings/user/Application Data/Subversion, does it need to be somewhere else like TotoiseSVN folder? |
| 14:02.50 | Ominous | LordRhys: svn co ... --auto-props |
| 14:03.06 | Ominous | or ci if you are commiting not checking out |
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| 14:04.27 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 14:04.30 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11090&sid=1 |
| 14:04.37 | LordRhys | Ominous: you've lost me id this a command line function? or something you want me to chnage in the confg file? |
| 14:05.05 | Ominous | in command line, when you commit just add --auto-props on the end and it forces them ti be used |
| 14:06.10 | LordRhys | I've never used command line, I use TortoiseSVN and right click folder and select commit |
| 14:06.13 | Ominous | oh |
| 14:06.19 | Ominous | erm i cant help you then |
| 14:06.20 | Ominous | sorry |
| 14:06.56 | Punkie` | Fisker-: I should spoil it and tell them what you are doing! |
| 14:07.10 | kebinusan | tell :-) |
| 14:07.19 | Punkie` | I already told you |
| 14:07.30 | Punkie` | It's a unicode character that mirrors the text after it |
| 14:07.56 | kebinusan | I guess I know that, whats the character |
| 14:10.05 | Punkie` | I dont know if it works in IRC |
| 14:10.38 | kebinusan | pastebin |
| 14:10.42 | mitch0 | stneilc lla ni krow dluow ti kniht t'nod |
| 14:10.50 | kebinusan | heh |
| 14:11.23 | Punkie` | http://ace.pastey.net/56896 |
| 14:11.46 | nevcairiel | whats the code? |
| 14:11.57 | mitch0 | ˘ïż½Â˘ïż½Âhello |
| 14:12.08 | mitch0 | that one doesn't work ;) |
| 14:12.11 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:12.19 | nevcairiel | ??hello |
| 14:12.22 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 14:12.28 | nevcairiel | whatever :D |
| 14:12.45 | Lywellyn | ??hello? |
| 14:12.47 | Lywellyn | nope. |
| 14:12.53 | haste | mitch0: what you see in the editbox there is just mojibake |
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| 14:13.07 | haste | it's not the unicode value of it |
| 14:13.29 | Lywellyn | ??hello ? |
| 14:13.32 | Lywellyn | bah. |
| 14:14.03 | mitch0 | sdrawkcab gnihtyreve etirw ot yawyna diputs s'ti |
| 14:14.12 | Josh_Borke | meh |
| 14:14.14 | Daemona | o.O |
| 14:14.16 | Josh_Borke | who cares |
| 14:14.26 | haste | doesn't work on irc either / most clients :) |
| 14:14.31 | nevcairiel | the fun thing with that character |
| 14:14.33 | nevcairiel | when you copy paste |
| 14:14.36 | nevcairiel | the order is right :D |
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| 14:22.17 | ravagernl | omg forkliftgnome :0 |
| 14:22.20 | omega_ | pÄħÌ£dnÊs ÊĈĈÉÇÉı sÄħÌ£ sÄħÌ£ÉÊ |
| 14:24.54 | Daemona | Althor, we believe we have isolated the primary source of the slow down with the conditional macros, and the reason our QA department did not produce results that matched yours early on. The cost of the conditional macros grows based on how many items there are in your inventory. The cost of each conditional macro is a constant amount, but that amount varies based on how many items are in your inventory. The more items, the bigger the cost. |
| 14:24.55 | Daemona | If your inventory and bank are full, and you have a lot of conditional macros, the cost is likely very high, and has a severe impact on your frame rate. Unfortunately, this connection to the items in your inventory was discovered too late to get a fix in for the 2.1.2 patch. It will be fixed in the following client patch. In the mean time, as I mentioned in my earlier post, adding the "#show" line to the top of your macros, indicating the spell or actio |
| 14:25.02 | Daemona | o.O |
| 14:25.31 | nevcairiel | at least it has a workaround |
| 14:25.56 | omega_ | how can you call it constant time if it isn't :p |
| 14:26.24 | nevcairiel | its constant for every macro |
| 14:26.58 | mitch0 | does it depend on the conditional used? |
| 14:27.29 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 14:27.35 | mitch0 | I mean, is it bugged only if I have [equipped=] type macros, or even for [modifier:shift] |
| 14:27.49 | mitch0 | hrmp |
| 14:27.56 | mitch0 | sounds bad. |
| 14:28.09 | omega_ | nevcairiel: constant for every macro, where constant varies with the number of items in your inventory and banks |
| 14:28.15 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 14:29.26 | nevcairiel | that again reminds me, that i should seriously fix bartender3 before 2.1.2 hits =P |
| 14:29.44 | Morghus | Wait, so how do I reduce the macro-stuff? I have 40+ macros, and full bank+inventory :P |
| 14:29.44 | mitch0 | what's wrong with it? |
| 14:29.50 | nevcairiel | nothing yet |
| 14:29.54 | nevcairiel | but it will with 2.1.2 |
| 14:30.00 | mitch0 | oh |
| 14:30.11 | mitch0 | well, fix it asap then. I'm using it :) |
| 14:30.20 | nevcairiel | Morghus: on conditional macros, place #show spell at the top |
| 14:30.31 | Morghus | The '?' can't be used? |
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| 14:31.02 | mitch0 | btw, does this bug effect macros that are not placed on any action bar, too? |
| 14:31.11 | nevcairiel | not sure how the macro system works |
| 14:31.13 | nevcairiel | but possibly |
| 14:32.03 | Morghus | nevcairiel: If I am using some random icon from the list, it'll get slowed down? |
| 14:32.13 | Morghus | Or if I'm using '?', it'll get slowed down as well? |
| 14:34.12 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 14:34.24 | nevcairiel | probably only with ? |
| 14:35.11 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 14:35.29 | Fisker- | i wonder if you can create an with mirroring char and it fucks up your ingame account |
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| 14:37.53 | Iceroth | RatingBuster-1.2.4 (r$Revision: 39424 $)\RatingBuster.lua:32: attempt to call method 'SetDebugging' (a nil value) |
| 14:38.07 | Morghus | Where can I read about this change? |
| 14:42.29 | sbu | Daemona: uhm 'too late for 2.1.2' meaning patch next week? ;o |
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| 14:44.29 | mitch0 | is there a site that lists the item/spell tooltips accurately? |
| 14:44.54 | Saroz | anyone saw the illidan movie? |
| 14:44.59 | Punkie` | wowhead? |
| 14:45.01 | Josh_Borke | Saroz: yes |
| 14:45.05 | Josh_Borke | Saroz: looks like an awesome fight |
| 14:45.20 | Saroz | aye |
| 14:45.28 | Punkie` | Filefront suck ass |
| 14:45.33 | Punkie` | what is this measily 55kbps? |
| 14:45.37 | Saroz | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3897/ is interesting |
| 14:45.55 | nevcairiel | sbu: they already announced 2.1.2 for next week, same day as the start of arena season 2 |
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| 14:46.02 | sbu | oh hm |
| 14:46.13 | sbu | right ;o |
| 14:46.39 | Punkie` | I have enough points for the shanker |
| 14:46.50 | Punkie` | which is ridiculously op |
| 14:46.51 | nevcairiel | the new one i hope? |
| 14:46.59 | Punkie` | yeah :P |
| 14:47.12 | mitch0 | where's the link for the new arena weapons? |
| 14:47.18 | nevcairiel | i should have like 4.2k points next week |
| 14:47.28 | nevcairiel | not sure what i will get tho |
| 14:47.30 | nevcairiel | prolly set items |
| 14:47.44 | Gnancy | http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/f/Felomag/95255/wqrwnkohbf.jpg |
| 14:48.05 | Gnancy | arena wep pic ^ |
| 14:48.13 | Punkie` | mitch0: have you ever used the internet outside of irc and wow? o.O |
| 14:48.59 | Punkie` | that shanker is hawt |
| 14:49.21 | kebinusan | www.mmo-champion.com or worldofraids.com should have the new arena season weapons |
| 14:49.38 | mitch0 | punki: :) |
| 14:49.49 | Boubouille | making the mmo-champion link clickable and not the worldofraids one is just evil kebinusan |
| 14:49.52 | Boubouille | I like you. |
| 14:49.56 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:50.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:50.24 | mitch0 | hm. the caster dagger is nice |
| 14:50.31 | Tornhoof | maybe you should upgrade your irc client boubouille |
| 14:50.32 | mitch0 | too bad it's a dagger. I prefer swords |
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| 14:50.42 | Josh_Borke | hate @ swords |
| 14:50.45 | nevcairiel | what does it matter for casters ? :o |
| 14:50.46 | Josh_Borke | <- spriest |
| 14:50.46 | Boubouille | Tornhoof : my whole computer needs an upgrade tbh |
| 14:50.46 | Boubouille | :/ |
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| 14:50.57 | mitch0 | I like to swing at stuff :) |
| 14:50.58 | nevcairiel | daggers can be worn by every caster class |
| 14:51.01 | nevcairiel | thats the thing :) |
| 14:51.04 | Punkie` | nevcairiel: I lolled. |
| 14:51.07 | Josh_Borke | i saw the sword from murmur 10 times, at least |
| 14:51.19 | mitch0 | I like my current Continuum Blade better (looks-wise) then my dagger before it (don't remember what it was) |
| 14:51.22 | kebinusan | yeah the spellblade is a nie upgrade over my magus blade |
| 14:51.31 | kebinusan | pve anyway |
| 14:52.16 | durcyn | mitch0: runesong? |
| 14:52.31 | durcyn | kebinusan: yeah, just a shame it has points wasted on resilience :o |
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| 14:52.50 | Saroz | zomg, NRT got CTRT export now |
| 14:52.52 | mitch0 | durcyn: nah, I think it was some crappy green "of the sorcerer" :) |
| 14:52.54 | Saroz | finally I can dump that old crap |
| 14:54.15 | kebinusan | Saroz: what got ctrt export? |
| 14:54.26 | wobin_ | oh god |
| 14:54.34 | wobin_ | curse's ajax is draining my computer =( |
| 14:54.35 | kebinusan | oh nrt |
| 14:54.39 | kebinusan | hmm have to try it |
| 14:54.52 | kebinusan | wobin, wowheads does that to mine |
| 14:55.01 | Saroz | NRT |
| 14:55.05 | mitch0 | wow-eu does that to mine :) |
| 14:55.20 | Saroz | wow armory does that to me |
| 14:55.21 | Saroz | it's insane |
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| 14:56.09 | sbu | Saroz: hm - NRT isnt on svn? |
| 14:56.12 | wobin_ | hm |
| 14:56.13 | wobin_ | actually |
| 14:56.22 | wobin_ | it could be my batteries in the mouse are running down =) |
| 14:56.42 | Saroz | sbu, no |
| 14:56.56 | kebinusan | Saroz: linkage? |
| 14:57.11 | Saroz | http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/ |
| 14:57.36 | wobin_ | that's better |
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| 15:02.37 | FroMaster | Latest Pitbull = broken :( |
| 15:03.26 | kebinusan | FroMaster: if you run it LoD, just nuke all the pitbull_* stuff and update again |
| 15:04.55 | FroMaster | LoD? |
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| 15:07.00 | mitch0 | does it make sence: "local BOOKTYPE_SPELL = BOOKTYPE_SPELL" ? |
| 15:07.14 | mitch0 | will it "cache" the BOOKTYPE_SPELL global as a local for me? |
| 15:07.32 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: yes |
| 15:07.36 | mitch0 | thanks |
| 15:07.49 | LordRhys | Punkie: resolved issue, had to delete folder and start from scratch importing everything |
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| 15:09.07 | Hjalte | Is the author of Littlewigs around? |
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| 15:13.56 | Punkie` | LordRhys: heh, ok :) |
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| 15:17.30 | harldephin | why does a macro consisting of "/petattack; /cast Hunter's Mark;/startattack" work, while "/startattack; /cast Serpent Sting" only casts the Serpent Sting but does not start the attack ? |
| 15:18.14 | durcyn | you have to front-load the instant casts |
| 15:18.33 | durcyn | or use castsequence |
| 15:18.37 | harldephin | meaning? |
| 15:18.54 | durcyn | meaning you can't have something with non-gcd timer ahead of anything else without using castsequence in a macro |
| 15:19.28 | durcyn | "/cast Serpent Sting ; /startattack" should work. |
| 15:19.44 | harldephin | yea right, but that's senseless |
| 15:19.45 | Antiarc|Work | Morning |
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| 15:20.08 | durcyn | senseless? i try to know as little as possible about hunters. |
| 15:20.12 | mitch0 | erm, why can't I commit? |
| 15:20.23 | mitch0 | stuck at Transmitting file data... |
| 15:20.30 | durcyn | mitch0: fix your commit message. |
| 15:20.36 | durcyn | must be prefixed with AddonName: |
| 15:20.48 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 15:20.51 | mitch0 | naah |
| 15:20.52 | [Ammo] | the commit will work |
| 15:20.52 | harldephin | "/startattack; /cast xy" does work on my druid in cat form.. so why not with Serpent Sting |
| 15:20.55 | [Ammo] | the CIA hook is timing out |
| 15:21.02 | [Ammo] | just be patient Mitch0 |
| 15:21.02 | mitch0 | ah |
| 15:21.19 | [Ammo] | it'll commit just fine |
| 15:21.19 | mitch0 | just want to commit before I leave for home :) (@work now) |
| 15:21.21 | [Ammo] | just takes a few mins |
| 15:21.36 | harldephin | it even works in caster form |
| 15:21.38 | mitch0 | erm, forgot to mention in the commit log that it's definitely broken now |
| 15:22.10 | mitch0 | not that anyone should be even aware of this libs existence atm :) |
| 15:22.40 | harldephin | i won't do "/cast Serpent Sting; /startattack", because at the time i would have targeted something AND casting Serpent Sting, i would already have startet the attack as well by another action. |
| 15:23.22 | harldephin | the reason i want to be able to start the attack and then cast Serpent Sting is that /startattack targets something automatically |
| 15:23.38 | hyperChipmunk | serpent sting should too |
| 15:23.51 | harldephin | it doesn't |
| 15:23.58 | hyperChipmunk | or maybe that's petattack |
| 15:24.08 | harldephin | yes, that does |
| 15:24.18 | mitch0 | what's the TOC ## for non-optional deps? ## Dependencies? |
| 15:24.21 | harldephin | as i said, "/petattack; /cast Hunter's Mark;/startattack" works |
| 15:24.28 | hyperChipmunk | cuz a /cast hunter's mark /petattack ...yea |
| 15:24.37 | durcyn | OptionalDeps |
| 15:24.39 | harldephin | "/target pettarget; /cast Serpent Sting" works too |
| 15:24.42 | durcyn | and Dependencies |
| 15:24.44 | hyperChipmunk | i wasn't paying attention |
| 15:24.57 | harldephin | but i don't want to target my pet's target, i want to target the next target in range |
| 15:25.11 | hyperChipmunk | /targetnearestenemy |
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| 15:26.26 | harldephin | hyperChipmunk: where's that from ? |
| 15:26.30 | durcyn | i dunno, i always just used 'tab'. |
| 15:26.41 | hyperChipmunk | top of my head |
| 15:26.54 | hyperChipmunk | it might be off a bit, but i know the command is there |
| 15:27.18 | harldephin | /targetnearestenemy at least doesn't exist |
| 15:27.50 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.52 | harldephin | durcyn: i use tab as well, but not when i just want to attack the nearest target without having to tab first |
| 15:28.07 | durcyn | which should work in a macro. it's a protected function and requires keyboard initiation. |
| 15:28.32 | durcyn | so you could " /script TargetNearestEnemy(); /cast Serpent Sting ; /startattack ", and it -should- do what you want. |
| 15:28.47 | harldephin | durcyn: TargetNearestEnemy() seems to be protected |
| 15:28.53 | durcyn | i just said, it's protected |
| 15:28.58 | Gnancy | anyone know why /use 13 |
| 15:28.59 | harldephin | yes |
| 15:29.03 | Gnancy | crap |
| 15:29.04 | harldephin | so it can't work |
| 15:29.08 | Gnancy | sorry |
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| 15:32.15 | mitch0 | laterz |
| 15:32.17 | harldephin | using protected functions isn't allowed in macros after all. at least not that one. |
| 15:32.46 | beerke | ./use 13 refers to trinket slot 1 |
| 15:32.51 | beerke | iirc |
| 15:32.55 | beerke | and 14 to slot 2 |
| 15:33.40 | hyperChipmunk | ah, it's /targetenemy |
| 15:35.40 | Antiarc|Work | Did CIA die again? |
| 15:35.50 | harldephin | that seems to work. thanks, hyperChipmunk. |
| 15:36.39 | Gnancy | beerke heh thanks but my actual issue is at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110532769&sid=1 |
| 15:36.47 | Gnancy | i was trying to paste the text |
| 15:36.53 | Gnancy | but it cut it off |
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| 15:40.29 | beerke | use castsequence instead of cast |
| 15:40.37 | beerke | that should just work |
| 15:40.44 | beerke | i hope :) |
| 15:41.21 | beerke | nvm |
| 15:41.27 | beerke | i should read better :P |
| 15:44.08 | Gnancy | heh np. its a weird thing tho with one trinket needing two presses without the /stopcasting |
| 15:47.22 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: ping ? |
| 15:47.25 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 15:48.11 | Adirelle | i'm quite confused by the Threat_ThreatUpdated event |
| 15:48.20 | Adirelle | I mean the way it is sent from Threat |
| 15:48.32 | Antiarc|Work | How so? |
| 15:48.46 | sbu | Adirelle: hmm - you could work on recount insted of violation :p |
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| 15:49.03 | Adirelle | sometimes it seems the value is the threat delta, and in other cases it seems to be the total threat |
| 15:49.35 | Antiarc|Work | Make sure you look at the target. If it's Threat.GlobalTarget, it's going to be a lot lower than if it's specific target threat |
| 15:49.56 | Adirelle | I meant from code point of view |
| 15:50.04 | Antiarc|Work | The event gets fired for all threat updates - global, and each target - so you need to be sure to only watch the events you're interested in |
| 15:50.06 | Antiarc|Work | What do you mean? |
| 15:50.26 | Adirelle | Threat_ThreatUpdated is triggered from 5 points in threzt |
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| 15:50.38 | Antiarc|Work | Gimme a sec to pull it up so I can play along |
| 15:50.45 | Adirelle | one sends threat + gThreat - offsetThreat, which looks like a delta |
| 15:50.54 | Adirelle | (in :ThreatUpdatedForUnit) |
| 15:51.22 | Antiarc|Work | No, that's total threat |
| 15:51.32 | Antiarc|Work | offsetThreat is used for mob threat "resets" |
| 15:51.45 | Adirelle | oh |
| 15:51.52 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, when you issue a reset command on a mob, it sets the offset at the current threat level, so that threat + global threat - offset = 0 |
| 15:52.05 | Adirelle | oki |
| 15:52.18 | Adirelle | nvm then |
| 15:52.25 | Adirelle | though now I'll look another thing |
| 15:53.07 | Adirelle | I'm trying to make a rough ThreatToKTM |
| 15:53.24 | Adirelle | so I'll look how KTM resets are handled |
| 15:53.40 | Adirelle | I think Threat don't take care of KTM resets and conversely |
| 15:53.41 | Antiarc|Work | KTM resets just wipe threat to 0, I believe |
| 15:54.09 | Antiarc|Work | Threat shouldn't care about KTM resets, because a KTM reset should have people set their threat to 0, which they'll broadcast and Threat will pick up |
| 15:54.20 | Adirelle | okay |
| 15:54.41 | Antiarc|Work | And we certainly don't want to wipe threat data on a KTM reset command, because due to KTM's design, you'll have to wipe its threat list any time you switch targets to get accurate threat in a fight like Kael'thas |
| 15:54.42 | Adirelle | but... Threat itself won't reset |
| 15:54.52 | Adirelle | right |
| 15:54.53 | Antiarc|Work | But Threat handles that seamlessly due to multiple target lists |
| 15:54.59 | Adirelle | I totally aggree with this |
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| 15:55.50 | Adirelle | but... I'm thing that using deltas there could be a way to make threat deltas going from one side to another, even with resets |
| 15:55.54 | Adirelle | the kind of way violation does |
| 15:56.24 | steev64 | what is CastCommLib part of? |
| 15:56.37 | Adirelle | we can also don't care :p |
| 15:57.00 | AKX | Is there a way to create textures on the fly in WoW? |
| 15:57.07 | Antiarc|Work | AKX: No |
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| 15:57.15 | AKX | Or, conversely: Is creating 2500 simple UI frames too much? |
| 15:57.18 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 15:57.28 | AKX | Hmmm. |
| 15:57.30 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, you mean just texture objects? |
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| 15:57.35 | Antiarc|Work | frame:CreateTexture() |
| 15:57.38 | AKX | Well, I'd need a 50x50 grid. |
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| 15:57.52 | Antiarc|Work | You can create a texture object. You can't write procedural image data though. |
| 15:58.00 | MRYSNIKA | zdraveiti |
| 15:58.03 | AKX | Any smrt ideas to do such a grid? |
| 15:58.03 | Antiarc|Work | If it's just a texture object to load a pre-existing image, you can do that. |
| 15:58.04 | MRYSNIKA | ima li gotini momi4eta |
| 15:58.26 | Punkie` | steev64: Grid iirc |
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| 15:58.54 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: I'm not sure I know what you mean by passing deltas around |
| 15:58.55 | krka | Antiarc|Work: You can't spell passing without ass! |
| 15:58.58 | Killmore7 | Antiarc|Work ! |
| 15:59.16 | Antiarc|Work | Yo |
| 15:59.29 | steev64 | Punkie`: hmm, ok - i just checked out sRaidFrames (grid doesn't cut it for me as a healer - though I know there are addons) and was trying to avoid externals as much as possible |
| 16:00.05 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: imagine that KTM resets at time T but not Threat... Threat users will see KTM users with high numbers |
| 16:00.36 | Adirelle | conversely, if Threat resets but not KTM, KTM users will see Threat users with high numbers |
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| 16:01.13 | Adirelle | that's the case ATM, with your "rough" implementation |
| 16:01.13 | Firik | grid didn't work for me either as a healer, that's why I wrote http://wowace.com/wiki/BunchOfBars |
| 16:01.38 | Adirelle | (and the one I done for sending KTM data from Threat) |
| 16:01.39 | steev64 | *waits patiently for it to load* |
| 16:02.12 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
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| 16:03.01 | Adirelle | now imagines, that the interface code remembers last values and catchs resets to reset them, when a new value arrives, it just passes the delta |
| 16:03.02 | krka | Adirelle: You can't spell passes without ass! |
| 16:03.13 | Adirelle | krka: thanks to your contribution :p |
| 16:03.45 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: wait a bit |
| 16:03.51 | Adirelle | I'll pastey some drycode |
| 16:04.02 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: U GIEF ktm fakemessages? |
| 16:04.15 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle is working on it! :P |
| 16:04.33 | Adirelle | that's will be a proof of concept though |
| 16:04.40 | Adirelle | as noone use KTM in my guild :/ |
| 16:05.07 | sbu | no problem, i will test :p |
| 16:05.08 | mikma | they do in the guild i am :P |
| 16:05.14 | mikma | but they have noticed Omen/Threat-1.0 |
| 16:05.18 | sbu | oh? |
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| 16:05.33 | Wixi | i found a version of PowerAuras thats updated, but its all written in french and incompatible with enUS |
| 16:05.43 | mikma | kara group2 leader has made a post telling that it exists, but i don't think the nutsacks will turn to use it anytime soon |
| 16:05.46 | sbu | mikma: so you created some scheduled event which prints to gchat every 2s? |
| 16:06.09 | Antiarc|Work | What's the escape code for ĵ? |
| 16:06.21 | Antiarc|Work | (that's an umlaut, in case it doesn't come through) |
| 16:06.29 | Antiarc|Work | I'm filling in some babble-spell holes |
| 16:06.35 | mikma | sbu: didn't have to, i whispered the grp2 leader some time ago that does he mind if i know my threatlevel but won't show in their list since i have a better addon |
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| 16:06.41 | mikma | sbu: and the dork did mind :P |
| 16:07.27 | sbu | err and Adirelle, please make it really obvious ;p |
| 16:07.37 | Adirelle | what ? |
| 16:07.39 | sbu | like mt threat 10000000000 :/ |
| 16:07.43 | sbu | ktm fake ;o |
| 16:09.07 | trh | yeah.. got our MT to switch to omen/threat :) |
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| 16:09.33 | sbu | yup same here ;p |
| 16:09.47 | durcyn | times like this i'm glad i'm the raidleader. "if you don't answer threat version checks, you're not getting invited" sometimes works =) |
| 16:09.50 | Adirelle | erm... after looking after it... I can either make something that sends raw threat values |
| 16:09.53 | sbu | was pretty easy since he disabled KTM because of 1-2 fps in magtheridon fights ;p |
| 16:10.33 | Adirelle | or something far more complicated that takes resets of each threat meters into accounts |
| 16:10.53 | trh | sbu: hehe.. i told a rl-friend of the MT i know pretty good ig to use omen/threat, he liked it and forced the mt to use it too =) |
| 16:11.16 | Morghus | Has it entered stable now? |
| 16:11.25 | Morghus | Omen/Threat that is |
| 16:11.26 | trh | let's hope it spreads with O(2^x) and we're good =) |
| 16:12.19 | Adirelle | very rough one : http://ace.pastey.net/56899 |
| 16:13.11 | Adirelle | don't even take care of GUI or disabling, install and forget (er well... no... don't forget to update) |
| 16:14.50 | Adirelle | for more complicated one, I'll have to override ThreatLib KTM comm handling |
| 16:14.55 | AKX | In a context of something fading and unfading, what's a good synonym for "unfade"? :F |
| 16:15.39 | dodgizzla | "fade out" |
| 16:15.40 | mikma | AKX: Show |
| 16:15.46 | dodgizzla | ah i see |
| 16:15.55 | trh | <3 my new crit scope :) |
| 16:15.56 | dodgizzla | yeah show is good :D |
| 16:16.02 | AKX | I suppose, mikma. |
| 16:16.39 | AKX | Thanks. <3 |
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| 16:29.49 | Adirelle | erm... it looks like KTM doesn't reset threat when changing master target, am I right ? |
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| 16:32.44 | Zeksie | correct afaik |
| 16:33.49 | Fisker- | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268954 <-lolwut? |
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| 16:36.29 | Kaelten | is CIA flaking out again? |
| 16:36.58 | kebinusan | the cia site was unreachable earlier |
| 16:36.59 | hyperChipmunk | sure looks that way |
| 16:37.04 | Tornhoof | yeh looks like it |
| 16:37.54 | Kaelten | damnit |
| 16:37.56 | jme | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.58 | Kaelten | I need to write a replacement |
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| 16:38.32 | Kaelten | I hate it when it lags out commits so badly. |
| 16:38.39 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 16:38.56 | kaugummi | this could become interesting: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296389963&sid=1 |
| 16:38.57 | Killmore | Fisker-: troll! :P |
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| 16:39.22 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 16:40.14 | ilifin | is there any mod out there to make "wishlists" of gear? .p |
| 16:40.20 | Tornhoof | afaik there is no way to properly do some ingame irc client |
| 16:40.25 | Tornhoof | without hooking wow dlls |
| 16:40.30 | Tornhoof | which is against the eula |
| 16:40.33 | Antiarc|Work | Man, passing text through the system time seems like a horrible, horrible idea. |
| 16:40.34 | krka | Antiarc|Work: You can't spell passing without ass! |
| 16:40.41 | Tornhoof | actually even fraps is against the eula to some degree |
| 16:41.04 | Antiarc|Work | Tornhoof: It looks like he's doing it by modifying the system time and passing information that way with some kind of protocol |
| 16:41.05 | krka | Antiarc|Work: You can't spell passing without ass! |
| 16:41.07 | Kaelten | ya that'd be gray land at the very least maybe a lot worse. |
| 16:41.09 | Antiarc|Work | krka: ... |
| 16:41.24 | Antiarc|Work | http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2962/limitlessgb8.jpg |
| 16:42.25 | Antiarc|Work | Whoa! The 4-piece rogue arena 2 bonus is +10 energy |
| 16:42.28 | Antiarc|Work | Niiiiice. |
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| 16:42.38 | trh | Antiarc|Sleep: 17k gold! wtf |
| 16:42.52 | Tornhoof | yes i understand that antiarc |
| 16:42.57 | Tornhoof | but it is still fiddling with wow |
| 16:42.58 | Antiarc|Work | trh: They're running Omen too :P |
| 16:43.03 | durcyn | christ on a crutch, kenco makes me want to hurt him |
| 16:43.17 | trh | Antiarc|Sleep: but 17k gold.. wtf =) |
| 16:43.33 | kebinusan | The casters bonus should 30% chance to avoid spell interrupt from damage |
| 16:43.42 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: drycoded this, comments ? http://ace.pastey.net/56901 |
| 16:43.50 | kebinusan | but eh, I hate pvp |
| 16:44.02 | Fisker- | Antiarc|Work :< |
| 16:44.07 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Grizbo is saying that Omen still doesn't pick up some threat items properly. He fails to mention WHAT |
| 16:44.10 | Fisker- | Threat-1.0 sucks apparently |
| 16:44.19 | Xuerian | omen/threat, that is |
| 16:44.23 | Fisker- | all your work was in vein |
| 16:44.27 | Fisker- | or whatever |
| 16:44.30 | Killmore | Fisker-: yes :( |
| 16:44.33 | Killmore | :P |
| 16:44.35 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: I don't think that'll work since it just broadcasts target threat, not sum threat |
| 16:44.46 | Antiarc|Work | KTM will need (sum of target threat + global threat) sent |
| 16:44.48 | Tornhoof | antiarc, the more interesting version would be modifying packets to inject/read chatdata |
| 16:44.53 | Antiarc|Work | which means that ThreatLib needs a method to expose that |
| 16:45.09 | Antiarc|Work | Tornhoof: That's trivial enough, I'm sure, but very explicitly against the TOS :) |
| 16:45.20 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 16:45.37 | Xuerian | Do it on a gateway. |
| 16:45.47 | Tornhoof | it's not about gateway |
| 16:45.56 | Xuerian | I mean to keep it from being warden-ized |
| 16:45.56 | Xuerian | :p |
| 16:47.03 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: global threat ain't accounted in target threat ? and what about doing _GLOBAL_ + target ? |
| 16:47.09 | Xuerian | And I didn't mean the Gateway brand, I mean router/gateway >.> |
| 16:47.34 | Tornhoof | yah |
| 16:47.35 | Tornhoof | i know |
| 16:47.38 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: For people running ThreatLib, Global threat is just non-target-specific threat |
| 16:47.43 | Antiarc|Work | So heals, rage gains, etc |
| 16:47.53 | Xuerian | Ah well, still against tos, blizz would still throw a hissy. |
| 16:48.03 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 16:48.03 | Antiarc|Work | You'd need _GLOBAL_ + target1 + target 2 + ... + targetn |
| 16:48.17 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: oO |
| 16:48.24 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah :) |
| 16:48.24 | Tornhoof | as will they do with the time() stuff |
| 16:48.25 | Xuerian | Adirelle: Welcome to ktm's logic. |
| 16:48.31 | Tornhoof | while it is certainly a nice idea |
| 16:48.39 | Antiarc|Work | KTM is aggregate threat on all targets over the course of a fight, unless a master target is set. |
| 16:48.59 | Antiarc|Work | If you don't have a master target set, then all threat incurred against any source counts towards your total threat |
| 16:48.59 | Xuerian | Tornhoof: There's lots of legitimate things to do with it, but even more illegitimate, unfortunately =| |
| 16:49.14 | Antiarc|Work | I can undestand why they don't give us data in, but I would -love- to have data out. |
| 16:49.37 | Tornhoof | well i'd like a full chat i/o |
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| 16:49.41 | Adirelle | hmm... wait |
| 16:49.50 | Adirelle | I *can* sum all with my code |
| 16:49.54 | Antiarc|Work | I'd love a full chat IO :) |
| 16:50.01 | hyperChipmunk | changing time can't pass data out of the client though |
| 16:50.03 | Xuerian | I think we all would |
| 16:50.03 | Adirelle | just throwing out the test... |
| 16:50.08 | Tornhoof | technically we already have a certain amount of output |
| 16:50.11 | Xuerian | hyperChipmunk: They did it somehow 0_o |
| 16:50.11 | hyperChipmunk | screenshots + OCR? |
| 16:50.13 | Tornhoof | just hook the logitech g15 driver |
| 16:50.14 | Adirelle | i mean if the target ain't set |
| 16:50.31 | nevcairiel | Tornhoof: well you cannot change the information the g15 displays |
| 16:50.34 | Xuerian | Tornhoof: Warden loves hook-hunting |
| 16:50.37 | nevcairiel | so yeah, you could get that information |
| 16:50.39 | nevcairiel | but huh |
| 16:50.45 | Tornhoof | ah well |
| 16:50.49 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Don't even need OCR. Just reserve, say, a 16x16 block of screen real-estate for your data |
| 16:50.49 | Tornhoof | if we can't change that info |
| 16:50.50 | nevcairiel | its not much of useful stuff |
| 16:50.52 | Tornhoof | it's dumb |
| 16:50.55 | Antiarc|Work | And then set pixel colors and use that to pass info. |
| 16:51.01 | Tornhoof | we can't set pixel colors |
| 16:51.07 | nevcairiel | sucks to be us |
| 16:51.09 | Tornhoof | i thought about texture hoooks too |
| 16:51.10 | Antiarc|Work | You can create 256 tiny textures |
| 16:51.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:51.19 | Antiarc|Work | And then just change the colors on them to represent bytes |
| 16:51.24 | Tornhoof | it will be a bitch |
| 16:51.34 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, but possible. :) |
| 16:51.45 | Tornhoof | to hunt down 256 tiny textures in gfx memory |
| 16:51.52 | kaugummi | http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2962/limitlessgb8.jpg at the lower right you see 10x10 tiny textures ... |
| 16:52.05 | hyperChipmunk | there ya go |
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| 16:52.37 | Tornhoof | well hooking dx like fraps does |
| 16:52.39 | Tornhoof | is no biggie |
| 16:52.43 | Tornhoof | so no problem to get that |
| 16:52.45 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 16:52.49 | nevcairiel | you write lua in that ms gui? |
| 16:52.50 | nevcairiel | :x |
| 16:52.56 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 16:53.04 | Tornhoof | i don't like the input part with time() though |
| 16:53.06 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's the thing that should be illegal |
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| 16:53.48 | Antiarc|Work | If it's a problem, Blizz could just read systime on WoW startup and then provide that + client run time |
| 16:53.55 | steev64 | hooray for gnome |
| 16:53.56 | testtheircguy | Where might I post something regarding FishingAce? |
| 16:53.58 | Antiarc|Work | So changing the system time would have no effect in WoW |
| 16:54.47 | Tornhoof | what about g15 anyway |
| 16:54.50 | Tornhoof | those macro keys |
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| 16:55.02 | Tornhoof | any interface by blz for them? |
| 16:55.05 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:55.08 | nevcairiel | sadly no :( |
| 16:55.11 | Tornhoof | they just work? |
| 16:55.13 | nevcairiel | you can only map them to real keybindings |
| 16:55.18 | Tornhoof | ah ok |
| 16:55.18 | nevcairiel | in the g15 ui |
| 16:55.26 | nevcairiel | like my G1 is ctrl-f1 |
| 16:55.28 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 16:55.42 | nevcairiel | something unused in wow |
| 16:56.06 | AKX | Uh, kaugummi |
| 16:56.17 | AKX | How the hell... do you manage IRC in WoW and vice versa? |
| 16:56.27 | Cryect | 2 monitors? |
| 16:56.35 | Tornhoof | see above akx |
| 16:56.46 | Tornhoof | output with e.g. textures |
| 16:56.47 | kaugummi | AKX, http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296389963&sid=1 |
| 16:56.52 | Tornhoof | input with time() variations |
| 16:56.52 | Xuerian | akx: System time() for data in, not sure about data out. Texture encoding is the theory :P |
| 16:57.12 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: what happens when you set KTM's master target during the fight ??? |
| 16:57.18 | Tornhoof | i think texture encoding is still nic |
| 16:57.19 | Tornhoof | e |
| 16:57.25 | Tornhoof | like for dkp and shit |
| 16:57.38 | Tornhoof | running some daemon in the background for it |
| 16:57.47 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: The next publish by each raid member should have threat data that then gets stored and notified as target data |
| 16:57.49 | Cryect | you can't change textures onthe fly without a RL so... yeah |
| 16:57.50 | Antiarc|Work | So it shouldn't be a problem |
| 16:57.52 | Xuerian | It would indeed be nice to have one-way data flow |
| 16:57.55 | Xuerian | Cryect: Colors. |
| 16:58.25 | Cryect | Xuerian: Colors? |
| 16:58.26 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I meant, does KTM reset its data ? |
| 16:58.36 | Antiarc|Work | 24 bits per pixel gives you the ability to represent a character rather cleanly |
| 16:58.44 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Not that I know of. |
| 16:58.47 | Cryect | What way are we talking about? |
| 16:58.51 | Adirelle | what a sh**t |
| 16:58.52 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Out |
| 16:58.52 | Cryect | GOing from WoW->Outside |
| 16:58.56 | Cryect | Oh yeah thats easy shit |
| 16:59.04 | Cryect | I thought we were talking going in |
| 16:59.09 | Xuerian | time() :p |
| 16:59.12 | nevcairiel | once it really works, they will just screw you over and disable even more ui functionality |
| 16:59.13 | Tornhoof | no way to do that with textures either |
| 16:59.15 | nevcairiel | i hate you already |
| 16:59.21 | Antiarc|Work | Use a DX hook to spy on the screen and read those pixels and then expose the translated string. |
| 16:59.23 | Cryect | you mess with time() and you screw up a bunch of addons |
| 16:59.35 | Xuerian | Cryect: No one said it was a good way. |
| 16:59.44 | Tornhoof | ya |
| 16:59.51 | Tornhoof | let's add barcodes to ace addons |
| 16:59.54 | nevcairiel | its for people like you, always trying to work around certain limitations, that we got that sucky tainting system |
| 16:59.55 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 16:59.56 | Tornhoof | so you can get your barcode reader |
| 16:59.57 | nevcairiel | shush do something useful! |
| 16:59.57 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 17:00.02 | Tornhoof | to identify addons :) |
| 17:00.05 | Cryect | There is already addons that do that |
| 17:02.18 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: another try: http://ace.pastey.net/56902 |
| 17:02.18 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Problem is, anyone who *actually* wants to get around those limitations will, no matter what blizzard does. The best thing they can do there is continually evolve Warden's detection routines to thwart subsequent changes in evasion. Everyone else, like us, who want to do innocent things, get screwed over |
| 17:02.24 | Tornhoof | yeh and when that voip stuff gets into 2.2 we add morse code |
| 17:02.42 | Tornhoof | warden is no problem anyway |
| 17:02.51 | Dustwhisper | can an addon call another addons commands? |
| 17:02.59 | Tornhoof | and never was |
| 17:03.02 | nevcairiel | Dustwhisper: sure |
| 17:03.11 | Tornhoof | we just want a legit way to do chat i/o |
| 17:03.42 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Line 34, 3 left hand vars, 4 right hand vals |
| 17:04.15 | nevcairiel | you will never ever ever get a way to communicate with the outside of wow |
| 17:04.27 | nevcairiel | and they will block any attempts todo so |
| 17:04.35 | Cryect | bwah he got rid of his pictures for using pixels and put up his memory reading stuff instead. Thermo Binary - Screen Reading Bot used to be it though no longer has the stuff up for doing it that way http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37998&hl= |
| 17:04.40 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: You're preaching to the choir. |
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| 17:05.15 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: right, but about the idea itself ? have a chance to work ? |
| 17:05.24 | trh | Cryect: it'd be awesome if you could name the pie-pieces in graphlib, so they'd get a text string on it saying what they are (if theres enough place to print it :) |
| 17:05.32 | Antiarc|Work | Still reading through it :) |
| 17:06.01 | Cryect | trh: Yes, it would be nice. Just haven't felt like writing the code to figure out can it fit or not :-p |
| 17:06.17 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: That looks like should work |
| 17:06.25 | trh | Cryect: hehe.. i'm playing with it.. awesome work! but no api documentation ;) |
| 17:06.28 | Tornhoof | well nev, they failed to sign/encrypt the communication for wow |
| 17:06.38 | Tornhoof | since they simply started using some xmlrpc clone |
| 17:07.09 | clad|work | Fisker-: It is not your personal responsibility to bash someone over the head with a mob of 15 other people about his addon's performance. Period. |
| 17:07.28 | ulic | anyone know if it possible to add a translation to a Babble from another addon, that is, just for the session or what not? |
| 17:07.34 | Cryect | trh: Yeah, I've not been in a real documenting mood of lately :-p |
| 17:07.52 | trh | Cryect: i can understand that way too good :) |
| 17:07.54 | Tornhoof | cryect how far does your gpslib work? |
| 17:09.03 | Cryect | Tornhoof: what do you mean how far? It works except in one test case then it has invalid data (thats the case where you ping the minimap, logout and log back in) |
| 17:09.45 | Tornhoof | how far does it really work in instances, like getting the position of yourself? |
| 17:09.58 | durcyn | hrm, i thought there was a directx overlay that does a drop-down quake like panel with an irc client in it |
| 17:10.04 | durcyn | or was that actually quake-specific |
| 17:10.13 | Xuerian | clad|work: I admire your controversy avoidance stance, but Fisker- partly makes a point. The main issue (Though regrettably, threat did inevitably come up. Notice, the ace crowd weren't the main ones to bring it up, though?) was the (lack of) performance in KLTM. Do you have a problem with discussing performance, or was the reaction entirely to the threat subtext? |
| 17:10.44 | Tornhoof | durcyn, there is afaik |
| 17:10.53 | Cryect | Tornhoof: Umm you get at least ADT Coordinate accuracy down to at least +/-0.1 Coordinates from last time I did the testing |
| 17:11.02 | clad|work | Xuerian: I have an issue with the fact that this has been going on as long as it has, that so many people are in there rating posts up and down just to make a point. The point has been made, the users will decide, its as simple as that. This should be done, there is no reason for it to continue. |
| 17:11.04 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: what happened to the 'Compare Threat Velocity' in Omen? |
| 17:11.28 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: I just have the menu option disabled since there's no way to get of the graph right now, and once it's on it sucks CPU |
| 17:11.50 | Tornhoof | cryect, so if i get 25 ppl to install it i can actually use it for positioning? |
| 17:11.59 | Antiarc|Work | It'll be re-enabled once I flesh it out, but Cryect has been making superfast improvements to graphlib, so I'm waiting for the feature set to stabilize so I don't duplicate his work and stuff |
| 17:12.02 | Xuerian | clad|work: Fair enough. |
| 17:12.06 | Antiarc|Work | (Like the stacked graphs. Yummy!) |
| 17:12.10 | Cryect | Yeah, I actually used it a little back in Naxx for trying to figure out some stuff |
| 17:12.20 | Tornhoof | ah ok nice |
| 17:13.20 | clad|work | Xuerian: Imagine how regardless of the situation, you would feel if there was a mob of developers doing nothing more than arguing with you, in your addons file comments. Is Kenco innocent, absolutely not, I've read the entire thread, but he provided an extremely important addon to a lot of people, has provided great support for his users. |
| 17:13.43 | clad|work | Xuerian: He happens to not feel there are performance issues with his addon, and thats fine.. its not the responsibility of the ace crusade to beat him into submission. |
| 17:13.46 | Cryect | Never made a good interface for it or anything. If you try to use it with the Cartographer instance maps, one thing to make note is they don't have the WDT displacements so they seem to be slightly off (think there might be some extra other displacement in exact positioning but doesn't matter when all the textures have the same relative positioing) |
| 17:13.47 | clad|work | nor is it appropriate |
| 17:13.51 | durcyn | "XLoot eats cpu! Down with Xuerian! And he smells bad too!" |
| 17:13.55 | Xuerian | clad|work: I'm sure you weren't here at the time, but I brought up a similar point earlier. |
| 17:14.04 | Xuerian | durcyn: It does, in places. And I do. I need a shower. |
| 17:14.11 | clad|work | you smell imo! |
| 17:14.24 | Cryect | I should though make an Ace version of my Minimap Icon placer |
| 17:14.37 | Dotted | Cladhaires loud voice makes babies cry :( |
| 17:14.48 | durcyn | but seriously though, it is safe to say that kenco doesn't need our help making the comment section on ktm look childish. |
| 17:14.52 | clad|work | Dotted: yeah, great.. I've heard it in three channels now. |
| 17:14.57 | clad|work | Dotted: Can we be done? |
| 17:15.01 | Dotted | no |
| 17:15.09 | clad|work | durcyn: .. that somehow justifies it? |
| 17:15.19 | Xuerian | clad|work: Thus why my first comment to you a few minutes ago was rather careful and pointed. I agree with (to summarize) the fact that we (loosely) have been attacking Kenco on his own turf, even with valid arguments. It's hard to expect him to not be defensive in a situation where pretty much anyone should be, right or wrong |
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| 17:15.19 | hyperChipmunk | clad|work: he's not entirely blameless; it would not have escalated to that point if he weren't a total jerk |
| 17:15.26 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: Understood. |
| 17:15.31 | clad|work | be the bigger man or woman and walk away |
| 17:15.35 | clad|work | its HIS addon file comments, ffs. |
| 17:15.35 | durcyn | clad|work: eh? i haven't posted and won't. i have nothing to contribute to the converstaion. |
| 17:15.40 | durcyn | conversation rather. |
| 17:15.45 | clad|work | durcyn: then why butt into this one? |
| 17:16.03 | durcyn | i was agreeing with you, ffs. |
| 17:16.05 | hyperChipmunk | actually |
| 17:16.08 | durcyn | and this isn't exactly privmsg |
| 17:16.11 | Tornhoof | thanks cryect, maybe i will actually finish my radar style addon now |
| 17:16.15 | clad|work | Xuerian: Understood.. My point is, its gone on long enough |
| 17:16.21 | clad|work | durcyn: fair enough, i mis understood what you were saying |
| 17:16.21 | hyperChipmunk | threat would never have gotten started with the momentum it had were he not a total jerk |
| 17:16.35 | clad|work | durcyn: I read that in "his comment section is bad enough without us, he certainly doesn't need us there" |
| 17:16.45 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: So say "thanks" and leave |
| 17:16.56 | clad|work | staying there is helping no one, and its just making a bad situation worse. |
| 17:17.18 | hyperChipmunk | the problem is we honestly would like to help |
| 17:17.27 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten for the win. |
| 17:17.35 | Fisker- | Hey i didn't even take part of the performance discussion, but i'm all for just "leaving it", but imo Kenco is just as much attacking them as they are attacking him, and to be honest if i was called a liar i would still come and respond to it |
| 17:17.37 | Antiarc|Work | That's basically where I stand on it right now. :) |
| 17:17.40 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: hrm? |
| 17:17.44 | hyperChipmunk | and it's like trying to pet an injured dog |
| 17:17.45 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Your post on the KTM threat. |
| 17:17.47 | Antiarc|Work | thread* |
| 17:17.51 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: Its clear that he won't accept it, especially from you guys. So buck up. |
| 17:17.54 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: No, i totally get that |
| 17:17.58 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: but its making it worse, like i said |
| 17:17.59 | Fisker- | Was just responding to the guy who said that Threat-1.0 was unusable because of it's inaccuracy(which i think is wrong) |
| 17:18.00 | Kaelten | I think everyone who is concerned here should read it. and get the point. |
| 17:18.00 | Xuerian | Well said =)( |
| 17:18.04 | Antiarc|Work | Good stuff. |
| 17:18.27 | Tornhoof | in what ktm thread, the curse one? |
| 17:18.38 | Fisker- | Like the ElitistJerk Threat thread |
| 17:18.49 | Antiarc|Work | clad|work: You're absolutely right - he won't accept it from us. Frustrating as that is, I have to agree with Kaelten that at this point, our job is just to make a better product and let the users sort it out for themselves. |
| 17:18.56 | Fisker- | Some persons start posting about it, and Kenco + some others starts putting up a fight, and antiarc wants to respond |
| 17:18.57 | clad|work | Antiarc|Work: *sigh* |
| 17:19.25 | Xuerian | Ace is such a entertaining community to develop in. |
| 17:19.29 | Antiarc|Work | clad|work: I think I'm agreeing with you. Not sure why the sigh :) |
| 17:19.38 | Fisker- | And then it's stopped on EJ forums, but he continues his "I'm right you're wrong" on his mod-page, and again i would fully understand why a person would respond to those claims |
| 17:19.43 | clad|work | Antiarc|Work: The sigh is because I've been making that same point since this whole thing started. |
| 17:19.47 | clad|work | in irc, and in my most recent posts. |
| 17:20.07 | clad|work | as a matter of fact, thats the only point i've made |
| 17:20.12 | clad|work | i agree with you guys 100% on the issues. |
| 17:20.19 | Tornhoof | popcorn with sugar xuerian plz :) |
| 17:20.32 | clad|work | however, as I've stated, the continued crap that keeps getting dragged on in that thread is the problem. |
| 17:20.34 | Adirelle | how do you put a newline in toc metadata (notes) ? \n ? |
| 17:20.35 | Dotted | Tornhoof ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :(::::::::::::::::::::(((::(((((((((((8 |
| 17:20.39 | clad|work | beating someone into submission isn't fun, and doesn't help anyone. |
| 17:20.55 | Xuerian | Fisker-: In the end, the proof is in the pudding. Due to it's current viral spread, people are already aware about Omen. When it meets their needs, that will be that |
| 17:20.56 | Antiarc|Work | To a degree, it's a PR thing as much as anything. Kenco has basically...well, asserted that we're a bunch of liars, and when you have the mindshare he does, that's a dangerous thing, PR-wise. |
| 17:20.58 | weab | beating can be loads of fun, are you kidding? |
| 17:20.58 | clad|work | but if the mob will listen to Kaelten instead of modding his posts down, then great |
| 17:21.01 | clad|work | the end if all i care about |
| 17:21.09 | Cryect | Dotted: you dislike kettle corn? |
| 17:21.13 | Xuerian | We can't mod Kaelten's posts down (Or up, like I'd rather) |
| 17:21.16 | Kaelten | kettlecorn is yummy |
| 17:21.17 | Xuerian | Tornhoof: I should try that |
| 17:21.29 | Kaelten | Xuerian: lol, it won't let you? |
| 17:21.34 | Xuerian | Kaelten: No :P |
| 17:21.36 | Kaelten | heh |
| 17:21.39 | hyperChipmunk | you can't mod kael |
| 17:21.43 | Kaelten | I need to make it so its highlighted then. |
| 17:21.44 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:21.44 | Xuerian | You can't mod staff or author |
| 17:21.48 | testtheircguy | FishingAce will only add the lure instead of casting one time on each login..if you should do it a second time it only casts. if you log back out and in again then it will properly add the lure..but then not again til you log out and log in again |
| 17:21.48 | hyperChipmunk | he's too pwn |
| 17:21.54 | Antiarc|Work | Xuerian: I've been...pretty amazed at how fast Omen has spread |
| 17:21.56 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:22.02 | hyperChipmunk | unfortunately, we can't mod it up either, so it will stay white and get lost in the cluttr |
| 17:22.05 | Fisker- | Pretty much my words Kaelten :P |
| 17:22.17 | Antiarc|Work | I did a few AV matches last night to test it in a raid setting where I could slack off without my raid leader yelling at me, and I had several people from several servers running threatlib :D |
| 17:22.18 | Xuerian | the [cu] icon should help |
| 17:22.48 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 17:22.50 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: heh, I sit next to a guy who can fix that for me :) |
| 17:22.52 | clad|work | To be completely clear. Antiarc|Work, hyperChipmunk, nymbia: I have absolutely 0 issues with your initial posts in that thread, and I agree that Kenco has issues that he really should look into, given the way the feedback was initially given (even that wasn't perfect). |
| 17:23.12 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: Yeah, and I introduced my cousins to it when I setup their interface (though I should probably get them to update... it's a week old now). It's word of mouth and zealot induced, so the good thing is that the people using it right now can either deal with its quirks or are in contact with people that are |
| 17:23.49 | Fisker- | btw Kaelten why are you staff there? :P |
| 17:23.49 | clad|work | I have an issue with the "Ace Mob" finding it their personal responibiiltiy to troll a thread, egg people on, mod down posts they don't like, even if that person is correct, and mod up the peopel who they idolize. I do not think ckknight had a place in that thread, and the entire way it went down makes me sick. |
| 17:23.49 | clad|work | Plain and simple. |
| 17:23.49 | steev64 | i like omen, i just don't like that it doesn't show me how much threat i have |
| 17:23.50 | abyssichate | Ominous: are you around? |
| 17:23.54 | Ominous | yrea |
| 17:23.54 | Antiarc|Work | steev64: Have you updated recently :P |
| 17:23.55 | clad|work | Maybe once you've had the ace mob sicked on you, you'd understand. |
| 17:23.58 | hyperChipmunk | my last post was actually intended to let him defend his addon on his own terms |
| 17:24.04 | ulic | is the svn bot down? |
| 17:24.08 | abyssichate | Classtimer is a bit broken :D |
| 17:24.08 | krka | abyssichate: You can't spell Classtimer without ass! |
| 17:24.13 | Xuerian | steev64: Well, you're in the right channel to A: Get smacked down for using it wrong, or B: Smack down the authors for making it wrong, so do one or the other :p |
| 17:24.27 | Ominous | abyssichate, how come |
| 17:24.29 | steev64 | Xuerian: i'd rather just know what im doing wrong :) |
| 17:24.33 | Kaelten | Fisker-: I work for curse as my full time job. |
| 17:24.42 | Xuerian | steev64: Start with following Antiarc|Work's instructions and updating. |
| 17:24.45 | Xuerian | Kaelten: o.o |
| 17:24.47 | Fisker- | :o |
| 17:24.50 | steev64 | Xuerian: already done |
| 17:24.50 | Fisker- | cool |
| 17:24.51 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: I know, your posts were nothing but appropriate, in my case. |
| 17:24.55 | Xuerian | Kaelten: I'm going to guess 60% of people here didn't know that :D |
| 17:24.55 | abyssichate | Ominous: did you get my pm? |
| 17:24.59 | Ominous | yea |
| 17:25.02 | Ominous | i fixed that |
| 17:25.04 | abyssichate | oh |
| 17:25.07 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: and i know the mob isn't under your control |
| 17:25.07 | Kaelten | Xuerian: lol |
| 17:25.09 | clad|work | that's how mobs work |
| 17:25.14 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: but that doesn't make the whole thing right =/ |
| 17:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | clad|work: the thing i disagree with is ckknight not having any reason to be there; you can't possibly look at that code and stay silent |
| 17:25.20 | Xuerian | steev64: Then proceed to telling Antiarc|Work what doesn't work, and how it's off and such |
| 17:25.23 | abyssichate | I'll check it right now |
| 17:25.39 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: He didn't clearly demonstrate that he actually looked at it. |
| 17:25.44 | hyperChipmunk | true |
| 17:25.44 | steev64 | Xuerian: i don't know that it doesn't work - it is quite likely that i don't understand that its working as intended |
| 17:25.50 | clad|work | so that invalidates that |
| 17:25.54 | clad|work | and makes it worse, in my opinino |
| 17:25.54 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 17:26.00 | clad|work | his statements were valid |
| 17:26.02 | Kaelten | Xuerian: been here for 6 months or so. |
| 17:26.02 | steev64 | basically what i "expect" or would like is it to stay global |
| 17:26.06 | Xuerian | steev64: Well, what about what circumstances it reports invalid threat |
| 17:26.21 | hyperChipmunk | no, you're right; i hadn't considered that |
| 17:26.21 | steev64 | instead of the user im targeting showing 0 threat |
| 17:26.21 | clad|work | but had no place there, especially in this context. |
| 17:26.21 | clad|work | i admit fully that i'm biased. |
| 17:26.23 | Antiarc|Work | steev64: Ah, you're a healer? |
| 17:26.25 | steev64 | which is correct, since its a party member |
| 17:26.28 | clad|work | I know exactly how this fucking community treated me when I de-aced Clique and PerfectRaid |
| 17:26.32 | steev64 | Antiarc|Work: shaman :) resto specced |
| 17:26.33 | clad|work | but you know what, we get through it |
| 17:26.42 | steev64 | (only level 37) |
| 17:26.42 | hyperChipmunk | I honestly attempted to understand the code |
| 17:26.44 | Antiarc|Work | steev64: It should show the threatlist for your targettarget if your target is friendly |
| 17:26.47 | clad|work | My users enjoy my addons, and that's all I'm here for |
| 17:26.48 | hyperChipmunk | and it made my head asplode |
| 17:26.49 | Xuerian | Kaelten: I saw one or two things offhand that should've put me onto the fact that you do, like communication with curse and such, but I thought that was just living in happy land and sites getting along XD |
| 17:26.50 | Fisker- | Hey i still think Clique is great |
| 17:26.50 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: Well |
| 17:26.51 | Fisker- | Ace or not |
| 17:26.54 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: Look at the FuBar core. |
| 17:27.00 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: It made my penis fall off. |
| 17:27.05 | hyperChipmunk | oh, I know |
| 17:27.12 | clad|work | we all know exactly how hard maintaining a core of code can be |
| 17:27.13 | hyperChipmunk | I was reading old log entries last night |
| 17:27.25 | hyperChipmunk | we gave ckknight the same treatment =) |
| 17:27.31 | clad|work | so the legibility of intelligence of his code really doesn't matter.. it was the FIRST threat meter, and its just been built up over and over |
| 17:27.38 | clad|work | you'll run into problems with that |
| 17:27.45 | Antiarc|Work | KTM's code isn't too hard to grok once you get your head around how it's designed, really. It's just designed in a really odd-ish manner. |
| 17:28.03 | clad|work | Antiarc|Work: agreed 100% |
| 17:28.06 | trh | i like the global name "thismod" ;) |
| 17:28.14 | Antiarc|Work | His variable names drive me up the wall though. |
| 17:28.18 | Antiarc|Work | Up the friggin' wall. |
| 17:28.28 | clad|work | heh |
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| 17:29.02 | trh | threat-1.0 should reserve 'thatmod' for itself ;) |
| 17:29.06 | clad|work | sometimes people need to take a step back, and realize that the guy on the other side of the wire is an actual person |
| 17:29.33 | Tornhoof | well i guess that's the case with pretty much every widely used addon |
| 17:30.15 | Antiarc|Work | clad|work: Honestly, most of the "core" people involved in the argument have treated Kenco with at least professional dignity, if not respect. I wish I could say the same for him to us. |
| 17:30.17 | Tornhoof | as soon as ppl start to use it and they run into problems they start flaming you, your family and your coding skills |
| 17:30.30 | clad|work | Antiarc|Work: But he didn't, |
| 17:30.36 | clad|work | Antiarc|Work: I'm not saying he's right |
| 17:30.43 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: wow, learn to program |
| 17:30.49 | clad|work | I just hope you see the affect the mob has had tho |
| 17:30.54 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Go choke on a firehose. |
| 17:30.57 | Antiarc|Work | :P |
| 17:31.13 | clad|work | *shrug* |
| 17:31.14 | weab | effect |
| 17:31.23 | Antiarc|Work | clad|work: Oh, I definitely do. I'm as much a non-fan of people jumping on a bandwagon without knowing what they're talking about as anyone. It doesn't help anyone. |
| 17:31.39 | clad|work | Antiarc|Work: well that's whyt I explicitly stated who I thought was correct |
| 17:31.49 | clad|work | everyone else can blow me, in my opinion. |
| 17:31.57 | Fisker- | ~depants clad|work |
| 17:31.58 | purl | ACTION grabs and pulls down clad|work's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties. |
| 17:32.08 | clad|work | I thought your persistence with him was admirable, and honestly very courteous and professional. |
| 17:32.49 | clad|work | I think it was arrogant of others to come into the thread uninformed and thinking they'd magically solve things, and for the non-users non-developers who just kept perpetuating the whole thing |
| 17:33.00 | clad|work | But we're wasting time here talking about it, lets get back to coding better mods =) |
| 17:33.17 | Antiarc|Work | Agreed! :D |
| 17:33.21 | Antiarc|Work | Better mods for all! |
| 17:33.24 | durcyn | ckknight: ping |
| 17:33.35 | trh | in the end the users will decide.... probably in favour of threat... seeing how many people installed it :) |
| 17:33.42 | trh | just in 2 weeks or sth |
| 17:33.44 | Tornhoof | someone find out how flurry works before that plz ;) |
| 17:34.23 | beerke | tbh, blizzard should just prevent such threat addons. I never liked them at all. But guess that is personal flavor and beyond the topic :) |
| 17:34.37 | art3mis | and ill preface it with "so i was talking to the wowace kids and here's a few choice quotes" |
| 17:34.45 | art3mis | and make things up said by people heh |
| 17:34.53 | Cryect | how can you prevent such threat addons? |
| 17:34.54 | hyperChipmunk | you can't prevent threat mods though |
| 17:34.59 | art3mis | cuz that's what jerks do |
| 17:35.07 | Cryect | I mean its a damage tracker with some modifiers essentially |
| 17:35.08 | hyperChipmunk | they use information that's vital feedback to the player |
| 17:35.10 | Fisker- | yes you can hyperChipmunk |
| 17:35.18 | Cryect | you can stop all addons |
| 17:35.21 | Fisker- | Just make threat /random 1-10000 based |
| 17:35.27 | beerke | I liked the unknown factor of overaggro in the fight |
| 17:35.28 | art3mis | hahaha fisker |
| 17:35.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's changing the threat model |
| 17:35.38 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 17:35.43 | art3mis | make a fake ktm plugin tht adds random threat values from you to the group |
| 17:35.46 | beerke | now if you mess up, it is : ZOMG l2use KTM |
| 17:35.48 | trh | beerke: imo it'd make some fights near to impossible |
| 17:35.58 | Antiarc|Work | Blizzard could make threat meters useless by making various skills do variable threat |
| 17:36.00 | art3mis | WTF HOW DID YOU JUMP TO 140000!!!! STOP DPSING! |
| 17:36.10 | beerke | All fights are possible without threat meter |
| 17:36.13 | Tornhoof | tot |
| 17:36.14 | Antiarc|Work | For example, make sunder do a random amount of threat between X and Y |
| 17:36.15 | cotangent_ | nah my guild didn't use ktm till we got pallies |
| 17:36.16 | Tornhoof | threat over time |
| 17:36.24 | hyperChipmunk | we never had threat meters in EQ |
| 17:36.26 | Tornhoof | with a slope |
| 17:36.36 | beerke | Give me one fight that absolutely can not work without a threatmeter |
| 17:36.43 | trh | beerke: not absolutely |
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| 17:36.51 | art3mis | beerke: hogger |
| 17:36.59 | art3mis | beerke: gamon |
| 17:37.00 | Cryect | what fight exists in game that absolutely can't work without the WoW 1.0 default interface |
| 17:37.05 | trh | beerke: i.e. on void reaver the tanks are happy about every aggro point |
| 17:37.20 | cotangent_ | we did up through loatheb without ktm, then pre BC pvp hit |
| 17:37.22 | trh | beerke: and the boss falls after 3 seconds of enrage |
| 17:37.36 | Tornhoof | we still do without ktm mostly |
| 17:37.36 | trh | beerke: so users doing less damage (because of aggro-fear) would cause the raid to wipe |
| 17:37.51 | beerke | I prefer to have that random overaggro factor |
| 17:38.01 | beerke | It is more to my playing style |
| 17:38.05 | Cryect | same we don't really use threatmeters much |
| 17:38.09 | Cryect | its not random |
| 17:38.12 | Cryect | and if it was random |
| 17:38.15 | Cryect | you would hate it |
| 17:38.17 | art3mis | so i ordered an x1950xt 256mb card today for $185 |
| 17:38.25 | Cryect | every now and then bam randomly you get aggroed on :-p |
| 17:38.34 | art3mis | cuz my brief nvidia experience has made me hate them again |
| 17:38.37 | beerke | Well random as in, tanks can miss streaks and such, you get crit streaks |
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| 17:38.41 | Morghus | clad|work: Sir, I ****** <3 your addons! \o/ One question for PerfectRaid, is it possible to adjust the width of the bars without adjusting scale? |
| 17:38.55 | clad|work | Morghus: not until the layout editor is written, you could alter the source, however |
| 17:38.58 | trh | art3mis: amd/ati is worse on graphic cards ;) |
| 17:39.09 | art3mis | trh: not for high res they arent |
| 17:39.14 | Cryect | and if you want you can easily track is your MT on a miss streak and are you on a crit streak |
| 17:39.15 | trh | art3mis: they had a video crash bug at nef's place for like months in their drivers |
| 17:39.19 | Tornhoof | drivers are worse |
| 17:39.22 | durcyn | ati makes decent hardware, they just couldn't write a driver to save their life |
| 17:39.36 | beerke | Cryect: kinda what KTM is allready doing in someway ^^ |
| 17:39.43 | art3mis | yeah the catalyst sucks baclls but it looks like nvidia is going the same way |
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| 17:40.04 | art3mis | but im happy enough that itll draw better at 1680x1050 and it does at 1280 |
| 17:40.08 | Tornhoof | heh .NET driver setting software |
| 17:40.15 | art3mis | as was the case with my x800xl |
| 17:40.16 | Morghus | clad|work: Layout editor? O.O Whoah, and here I thought it was already near perfect ( 'scuse the pun :O ) |
| 17:40.30 | art3mis | "standard" rez of 1280 and its performance was horrible |
| 17:40.43 | art3mis | run it at widescreen 1680 and it sang a happy little song |
| 17:41.00 | Tornhoof | running widescreen 1920*1200 for ages with a nividia 7900 |
| 17:41.13 | clad|work | Morghus: Hopefully I can work on it this weekend, that would be neat |
| 17:41.18 | art3mis | yeah we were talking about that stuff last night |
| 17:41.27 | art3mis | my x300 outperforms and 7100gs |
| 17:41.35 | art3mis | by leaps and bounds |
| 17:41.41 | art3mis | with less memory |
| 17:41.46 | Antiarc|Work | 1920x1200 here with a 7600GT |
| 17:41.52 | Morghus | So, beyond the feature-full addon it is already, what do you intend to implement with the layout editor? ( besides width of the bars :ĜP ) |
| 17:41.53 | Antiarc|Work | Performs just fine. |
| 17:41.54 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: in game res? |
| 17:41.59 | Morghus | @clad|work |
| 17:42.02 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: Yeah |
| 17:42.17 | Tornhoof | 1920*1200 is really neat :) |
| 17:42.22 | Cryect | yarr |
| 17:42.27 | art3mis | im justy happy to be going back to my beloved ati |
| 17:42.35 | art3mis | never had a problem with em |
| 17:42.39 | durcyn | i'll never go back to anything other than 1920. unless i find a 30-incher that can go bigger. |
| 17:42.41 | Antiarc|Work | I actually run windowed fullscreen so I can tab in and out easily, which means that my ingame res is my screen res :) |
| 17:42.45 | clad|work | Morghus: Enough to make people happy with a few things |
| 17:42.46 | art3mis | and they've always performed as i expect them too |
| 17:42.49 | clad|work | Morghus: we'll see if i get it done |
| 17:42.49 | clad|work | heh |
| 17:43.07 | art3mis | durcyn: heh i love my 21" viewsonic widescreen |
| 17:43.24 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: well, LCD would suck at other resolutions ;o |
| 17:43.27 | art3mis | it only does 1680x1050 but looking at a 1280x1024 screen now makes me feel like somethings missig |
| 17:43.31 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: No kidding :P |
| 17:43.45 | Morghus | clad|work: I don't know what else to want from the addon *laughs* Thanks for a great addon. Use it near-constantly :) |
| 17:43.56 | clad|work | thanks, glad you enjoy it |
| 17:44.06 | sbu | i'm fine with 1600x1200 - but some games really get me there... when graphics power isnt enough :o |
| 17:44.12 | art3mis | clad i hate your avatar and i demand it put more cloths on! |
| 17:44.13 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: Well, it does 1680x1050 windowed/fullscreen, but when you're windowed and in fullscreen mode, you can set it to any resolution you want. The selected resolution just defines the aspect ratio |
| 17:44.23 | clad|work | art3mis: she's secksy |
| 17:44.36 | Tornhoof | actually do you use ui scaling with 1920*1200 or mods with individual scaling? |
| 17:44.38 | art3mis | that may be but its not very christian |
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| 17:45.23 | sbu | art3mis: giev picture? :o |
| 17:45.32 | art3mis | sbu: clad's avatar on wowi |
| 17:45.34 | Morghus | art3mis: nude pixx???? |
| 17:45.37 | Morghus | :P |
| 17:45.41 | art3mis | the nymph |
| 17:45.50 | clad|work | you mean my nelf priest? |
| 17:45.58 | hyperChipmunk | wasn't it an elf priest in a robe? |
| 17:46.00 | clad|work | dot dot dot |
| 17:46.02 | art3mis | nymph...oh! |
| 17:46.14 | sbu | mh... |
| 17:46.16 | clad|work | hyperChipmunk: Yeah.. my priest Sagart |
| 17:46.38 | art3mis | oh i know what im confusing |
| 17:46.44 | art3mis | im mixing up you and cairn |
| 17:47.03 | art3mis | but the fact that its a nelf still makes baby jesus cry |
| 17:47.21 | clad|work | uhh k k |
| 17:47.42 | art3mis | the only useful elf is a Booksh Elf |
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| 17:49.15 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: yeah i run mine in widnered too, did kazz last night and for some reason "bagged to hell" popped into my mind so im getting an new card ;P |
| 17:51.10 | durcyn | i think you need less sugar in your diet. |
| 17:51.29 | NeoTron | So relative to say Hydross or Maghteridon, how hard are Kazzan and Doomwalker? are they 25-mannable or need 40man or close to? |
| 17:51.43 | Dustwhisper | kazzak is very easy |
| 17:51.46 | Matrix110 | Kazzak is easy |
| 17:51.46 | Cryect | 25 mannable |
| 17:51.47 | Dustwhisper | doomwalker is a bit harder |
| 17:51.51 | sbu | bring enough priests + damage :p |
| 17:51.54 | sbu | (kazzak) |
| 17:52.01 | Cryect | sbu or druids |
| 17:52.08 | NeoTron | as in hots? |
| 17:52.09 | Dustwhisper | prayer = nice |
| 17:52.11 | Peoii | doomwalker is funny |
| 17:52.13 | Cryect | no as in tranquility |
| 17:52.14 | NeoTron | kazzak = die and wipe |
| 17:52.16 | sbu | mass dispel > * :o |
| 17:52.17 | NeoTron | ah |
| 17:52.35 | NeoTron | might be fun to try sometime |
| 17:52.39 | Cryect | mass dispel for what? does that remove the curse thats not a curse now :-p |
| 17:52.43 | durcyn | kazzak is laughable if you have paladins divine shield and eat the enrage. |
| 17:52.45 | NeoTron | don't seem quite as heavily farmed as the old world bosses |
| 17:53.01 | Matrix110 | they are Oo |
| 17:53.04 | Matrix110 | atleast Kazzak |
| 17:53.09 | Cryect | the loots blah |
| 17:53.30 | Funkeh` | the cu8rse thats not a curse now? |
| 17:53.34 | Funkeh` | eh? |
| 17:53.41 | Cryect | the one that drains your mana |
| 17:53.45 | Cryect | it used to be a curse |
| 17:53.47 | Cryect | on the old kazzak |
| 17:53.48 | Funkeh` | ah right |
| 17:53.56 | Funkeh` | undispelable on that makes you go boo, |
| 17:53.59 | Funkeh` | boom* |
| 17:54.05 | Fisker- | Kazzak is a bitch with griefers :P |
| 17:54.30 | Matrix110 | that aswell |
| 17:55.30 | shieldb | doomwalker isn't really less of a bitch for griefing either, though |
| 17:55.44 | Morghus | Kazzak is a griefer with bitches >.> |
| 17:55.46 | shieldb | not hard for someone to jack up your attempt by running a druid in to cyclone your MT |
| 17:56.02 | Fisker- | well that atleast requires a druid |
| 17:56.48 | Wixi | heh our guild has kazzak on farn everyweek, but can't get mag down |
| 17:56.51 | Fisker- | i've even heard about some guilds getting level 1's up there |
| 17:57.12 | Fisker- | Kazzak is way easier than Magtheridon |
| 17:57.15 | sbu | mag is pretty easy |
| 17:57.27 | AKX | Can a Frame have multiple textures created? |
| 17:57.30 | sbu | if you have 10 non-retarded players + maintank |
| 17:57.45 | Antiarc|Work | AKX: Sure |
| 17:57.49 | Wixi | sbu: that would be the issue |
| 17:57.54 | ZealotOnAStick | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.55 | Fisker- | brainfreeze ftl :< |
| 17:58.06 | ZealotOnAStick | So, if I'm reading his addon description right . . . |
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| 17:58.14 | Fisker- | yeah what's up with the debris stuff sbu :I |
| 17:58.18 | AKX | Antiarc|Work, alright, then I've a bug somewhere else in my 2500 texture managing code. ;P |
| 17:58.23 | Fisker- | i've only seen it once, and that was after Magtheridon died |
| 17:58.23 | sbu | Fisker-: run out? :o |
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| 17:58.29 | ZealotOnAStick | "KPM is better and more accurate because it ignores a bunch of stuff that you shouldn't care about! *nod*wink*" |
| 17:58.32 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: is there some limit of 3 name filters for Sanitybags? |
| 17:58.46 | Fisker- | sbu never seen it :P |
| 17:58.46 | Trancer | Antiarc|Work: i.e. name: Elixir, name: Potion, name: Flask, name: Oil |
| 17:58.50 | Antiarc|Work | Trancer: There shouldn't be, but I think there's a bug in the parser |
| 17:58.51 | Trancer | it's skipping "oil" |
| 17:58.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Is that about the gist of it? |
| 17:58.56 | sbu | Fisker-: its pretty much like gruul cave in |
| 17:59.00 | Fisker- | only remember some time after we killed him i suddenly took 35k damage |
| 17:59.01 | Trancer | It's always the 4th item it just skips |
| 17:59.06 | sbu | and you can see it ~4-5s before its happening |
| 17:59.17 | sbu | if you dont run out then - 70k+ dmg |
| 17:59.26 | Fisker- | 35k in plate ;P |
| 17:59.28 | sbu | (on cloth) :p |
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| 17:59.46 | Peoii | ZealotOnAStick: I laughed soooooo hard when I read that on the addon description. |
| 17:59.49 | Wixi | durcyn: doesn't divine shield drop agro? how's that work? |
| 18:00.14 | Fisker- | only while it's active |
| 18:00.18 | Fisker- | And it doesn't drop aggro |
| 18:00.18 | winkiller | Nimbal of Buffalo isn't here, right? |
| 18:00.27 | Fisker- | NPC's just don't attack persons they cannot hit |
| 18:00.38 | Fisker- | not now winkiller |
| 18:00.38 | Peoii | ZealotOnAStick: The nievity of some people is amazing. "Omg, a Blizzards cpu profiler hurts your fps!" <-- um... dude? It's a CPU profiler, you can't have your cake and eat it too... |
| 18:00.41 | Industrial | winkiller: type "nim" and then tab |
| 18:00.44 | Industrial | >_> |
| 18:00.48 | Fisker- | ^^ :D |
| 18:01.01 | Fisker- | what Peoii i can't have cake and eat it? |
| 18:01.06 | Fisker- | Seems pretty possible to me imo |
| 18:01.13 | Fisker- | brb gonna make a cake |
| 18:01.17 | Fisker- | without a messy recipe |
| 18:01.21 | Morghus | and then eat it? |
| 18:01.25 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:01.27 | Fisker- | i hope so |
| 18:01.27 | Peoii | Ahh but when you are done eating it, you won't have it. Yea? |
| 18:01.28 | Morghus | :O! |
| 18:01.30 | sbu | mhmmm cake, my g/f just bought one... |
| 18:01.33 | Fisker- | Unless the laws of physics stop me |
| 18:01.34 | Peoii | :/ blah to you. |
| 18:01.39 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 18:01.40 | Morghus | Oh my god, you can't have cake, -and- eat it >< |
| 18:01.49 | Fisker- | what if i made 2 cakes Peoii? |
| 18:02.00 | Peoii | Screw you donkey hippy. |
| 18:02.00 | Morghus | That's like ... twice cursed :( |
| 18:02.00 | Fisker- | I would have my cake and eat it at the same time |
| 18:02.07 | Industrial | Fisker-: youvegotta do the cooking by the book~~ etc |
| 18:02.12 | Peoii | I'll take my old saying and go elsewhere ;) |
| 18:03.16 | winkiller | Industrial: many people have other irc nicks... |
| 18:03.25 | Industrial | winkiller: they suck |
| 18:03.28 | winkiller | Fisker-: thanks, never seen. that's why I asked |
| 18:03.48 | Fisker- | well winkiller he was here some days ago |
| 18:03.51 | Fisker- | ~seen nimbal |
| 18:03.54 | purl | nimbal <n=chatzill@p5488d39e.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11d 23h 42m 22s ago, saying: ' ~seen skyboat'. |
| 18:03.56 | Industrial | winkiller: especially the <normalnick>-imeatingcakerightnow |
| 18:03.58 | winkiller | hehe ok, will check |
| 18:04.14 | Industrial | :P |
| 18:04.20 | winkiller | Industrial: I'm talking more like. ingame name vs dev name vs anything |
| 18:04.30 | winkiller | for example I refuse to be "Winkiller" on any wikiu |
| 18:04.40 | sbu | brb, cake |
| 18:04.49 | Industrial | winkiller: im just kidding |
| 18:05.14 | winkiller | bad mood, just wiped. sorry :P |
| 18:05.25 | Thorgard^2 | Way to go, sucker! |
| 18:05.32 | Industrial | thats what she said |
| 18:05.36 | Industrial | mikma: 1 |
| 18:06.11 | ZealotOnAStick | I was also amused by "you can't disable Blizzard's profiler without restarting WoW.exe." Uhm, disable and /rl seems to work fine for me. |
| 18:06.18 | durcyn | Wixi: huh? not to tank. you have paladins DS to avoid the shadowbolt volley spam, and healbot the maintank through it. it stops after a few seconds, then the raid comes back in for another pass at him. |
| 18:06.23 | mikma | Industrial: 2 |
| 18:06.48 | Industrial | ZealotOnAStick: correct |
| 18:08.20 | durcyn | Wixi: it's total cheese, but it's a free kazzak kill |
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| 18:10.48 | Lywellyn | I herd you liek mudkipz? |
| 18:11.03 | Xuerian | moar! |
| 18:11.05 | ZealotOnAStick | and, my second (and hopefully final) comment on the KTM comments up now. |
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| 18:12.02 | Psylo | hi |
| 18:12.03 | Xuerian | I thought we were ending the comments >_o |
| 18:12.17 | Psylo | nevcairiel ? |
| 18:12.18 | Lywellyn | ..............firefox? chatzilla? IRC extension for firefox? |
| 18:12.24 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm responding to Grizbo. |
| 18:12.45 | Xuerian | Lywellyn: I don't think they feel that ff is slow enough already |
| 18:12.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Just as my previous comment on there (primarily fun and frivolous, admittedly, on that one) wasn't directed at either Kenco or Nymbia/Antiarc/etc. |
| 18:12.53 | nevcairiel | Psylo? |
| 18:13.07 | Psylo | nevcairiel i got a problem with bartender3 |
| 18:13.48 | Psylo | all quests items that enable enable a casting bar won't work in a bartender action bar, i'm obliged to use them from the inventory |
| 18:13.56 | Psylo | - enable |
| 18:14.05 | Psylo | sorry for my poor english |
| 18:14.33 | Xuerian | Psylo: Don't sweat your english, it's fine. |
| 18:14.37 | Wixi | durcyn: heh i was wondering if i had themechanics of pallies muddled up :) We just sit in there andthe whole raid eats the enrage, just have a priest in each group PoH spamming |
| 18:14.51 | nevcairiel | Psylo: ive never had that problem |
| 18:14.53 | Psylo | thx Xuerian ;) |
| 18:14.55 | nevcairiel | and ive done alot of quests |
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| 18:15.21 | Psylo | i got this problem and it disappear if i disable bartender3 ... |
| 18:15.23 | AKX | OK, so what's going wrong? I have a Texture object, whose IsShown() returns 1 |
| 18:15.28 | Psylo | my client is frFR |
| 18:15.38 | AKX | And its point seems to be 541, -280 relative to WorldMapFrame |
| 18:15.46 | AKX | But... I can't see it ;_; |
| 18:15.57 | nevcairiel | does it have a size? |
| 18:16.04 | nevcairiel | oh and try IsVisible |
| 18:16.17 | Antiarc|Work | AKX: Does it have a size? Does it have a strata > 0 ? |
| 18:16.27 | Antiarc|Work | Is it attached to a frame that is visible? |
| 18:16.30 | AKX | Size=(20,13), IsVisible()=1 |
| 18:16.36 | Antiarc|Work | Does it have an anchor? |
| 18:16.42 | AKX | Attached to WorldMapDetailFrame and Carto is visible. |
| 18:17.05 | nevcairiel | set it to ARTWORK layer |
| 18:17.09 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 18:17.13 | nevcairiel | i think its the highest |
| 18:17.21 | nevcairiel | or was it the lowest |
| 18:17.43 | AKX | Never mind |
| 18:17.45 | AKX | I'm an idiot |
| 18:17.53 | AKX | Hear ye, hear ye! AKX is an idiot! |
| 18:17.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:18.00 | nevcairiel | what did you do? |
| 18:18.15 | AKX | ._. |
| 18:18.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:18.26 | Psylo | nevcairiel can i do something to insulate the problem ? or something that could solve it ... ? |
| 18:19.31 | Dustwhisper | does omen/assessment sync with KTM? |
| 18:20.57 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: It reads from KTM, it doesn't write to it yet. |
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| 18:21.16 | NeoTron | whoha, a WoW mod book |
| 18:21.29 | abyssichate | Is the bot announcing svn updates down? |
| 18:21.34 | NeoTron | are the authors in here (that "real name" thing is confusing) |
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| 18:22.20 | Thorgard^2 | abyssichate, it's right there! *points to CIA-22* |
| 18:22.39 | NeoTron | although not as much of a programming guide as I would initially have thought |
| 18:23.01 | Lywellyn | Lament of the Highborne. Pure awesome. |
| 18:23.40 | Psylo | nevcairiel ? |
| 18:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | NeoTron: clad co-authored |
| 18:25.37 | clad|work | indeed |
| 18:25.50 | clad|work | NeoTron: Your programming guide will be out before Christmas |
| 18:25.56 | NeoTron | ah so that's your actual name |
| 18:25.59 | clad|work | Sorry you'll have to wait for it, tho. |
| 18:26.02 | NeoTron | cool working on a second book? :) |
| 18:26.16 | clad|work | mebbe |
| 18:26.18 | clad|work | sekrets and lies. |
| 18:26.21 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 18:26.29 | AKX | Rendering 2500 textures dropped my framerate from 35 to 10. D: |
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| 18:26.34 | Lywellyn | Moar! |
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| 18:26.45 | Psylo | ok thx for your no help nevcairiel ... |
| 18:26.47 | clad|work | bbiab |
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| 18:27.24 | abyssichate | Thorgard^2: it is, but he is not announcing anything apparently |
| 18:27.40 | Thorgard^2 | abyssichate, 'cause it's borken. |
| 18:28.10 | Firik | is there any good traid tracker that's compatible with eqdkp ? |
| 18:28.15 | Firik | ctraidtracker kinda sucks |
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| 18:29.23 | ZealotOnAStick | NRT is pretty good. Doesn't quite have everything I'd like yet, but it's better IMO than CTRT. |
| 18:30.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh, Kaelten made his comments (or perhaps just the one on the KTM thread) green. |
| 18:30.51 | nevcairiel | comments get green when enough people vote them + |
| 18:31.02 | NeoTron | I find ctrt to be ok |
| 18:31.02 | ZealotOnAStick | not staff. |
| 18:31.16 | NeoTron | had to hack it a bit, as well as eqdkp, to manage the trackign I need though |
| 18:31.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten's got a Cu tag, can't mod those up or down. |
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| 18:33.05 | durcyn | just let that thread die already, it's not helping anyone |
| 18:33.23 | Kaelten | :) |
| 18:33.30 | Kaelten | I made all staff comments green |
| 18:33.51 | ZealotOnAStick | My comment there is valid and legitimate, and isn't in response to Kenco, nymbia, Antiarc, ck, or any of the primary drama contributors. |
| 18:33.58 | deltron | hehe |
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| 18:34.13 | Fisker- | ZealotOnAStick was kinda the point i was trying to make |
| 18:34.23 | Fisker- | But then clad came and ruined everything :< |
| 18:34.25 | deltron | you guys are drama queens ;) |
| 18:34.53 | Adirelle | hrm... I suppose that if embed a library I have to embeds all its dependencies :/ |
| 18:35.41 | Firik | NRT? |
| 18:35.50 | durcyn | Firik: http://rabbit.nihilum.eu |
| 18:35.51 | ag` | please link me to drama |
| 18:36.02 | durcyn | ag`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/ |
| 18:36.03 | Firik | thanks |
| 18:36.09 | deltron | ag`: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 18:36.09 | deltron | heh |
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| 18:40.28 | Adirelle | for the courageous, there is a ThreatToKTM to test |
| 18:40.38 | Adirelle | no option, no GUI, just plug and pray |
| 18:41.16 | ZealotOnAStick | ag`, question: how (if it's possible) do I get the debuff shading timer thing with AgUF? |
| 18:41.45 | ag` | ZealotOnAStick, branches |
| 18:41.55 | ZealotOnAStick | ah. |
| 18:42.07 | ag` | ZealotOnAStick, it's stable for me so I urge you to test it out |
| 18:42.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok. Will try to look at it this evening. |
| 18:42.39 | ZealotOnAStick | more or less current with latest trunk changes? |
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| 18:43.57 | ag` | branches got a lot of under the hood changes, and a few new features such as aura timers |
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| 18:54.10 | Saroz | hrrrm Adirelle, what if a unit sends both KTM and threat-1.0 data? |
| 18:54.34 | Adirelle | Saroz: it gets doomed |
| 18:54.45 | Saroz | why |
| 18:54.50 | Antiarc|Work | I'm gonna just roll KTM-write into the core, I think, and provide an option to switch it off |
| 18:54.53 | Antiarc|Work | Since that's already handled. |
| 18:55.00 | Saroz | good :p |
| 18:55.08 | Adirelle | btw, nothing will happen |
| 18:55.15 | Adirelle | has sendktm is disabled when ktm is around |
| 18:55.22 | Saroz | no need to put it into the core |
| 18:55.28 | Saroz | but what if someone uses threat-1.0 AND ktm |
| 18:55.41 | nevcairiel | other threat users will prefer threat sources |
| 18:55.41 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 18:55.54 | Adirelle | it will happen the samething that with threat-1.0 alone |
| 18:55.54 | Saroz | would make most sense |
| 18:55.58 | hyperChipmunk | yea, they're different channels |
| 18:56.05 | Adirelle | e.g. ask Antiarc :D |
| 18:56.07 | hyperChipmunk | it's not like duplicate data will be sent |
| 18:56.38 | hyperChipmunk | although you'll have to turn it off in threat if you're running ktm too |
| 18:56.39 | Adirelle | okay, I'll add something to drop KTM data in this case :p |
| 18:57.05 | Chompers | Kenco looks really bad in his own addon thread |
| 18:57.08 | hyperChipmunk | although that can probably be handled sensibly automatically |
| 18:57.10 | Chompers | haw haw |
| 18:57.40 | Adirelle | I must admit I'm relying on Threat-1.0 to handle that case |
| 18:57.59 | Adirelle | I supposed Antiarc already handled it, as KTM reading is in the core |
| 18:58.55 | ZealotOnAStick | If you add in KTM data sending . . . |
| 18:59.13 | ZealotOnAStick | please make it something that if disabled, is really disabled and consumes no memory/resources. |
| 18:59.23 | Adirelle | ZealotOnAStick: not in core ATM |
| 18:59.34 | ZealotOnAStick | My guild switched to Omen wholesale Tuesday, and I really give a rat's ass about other KTM users. |
| 18:59.43 | Lywellyn | ag, I just posted something about the branch of your agUF |
| 18:59.59 | Lywellyn | two of the errors I get, swatter reports getting them over 600 times x.x |
| 19:00.18 | Antiarc|Work | ZealotOnAStick: It would be truly disabled, yes :P |
| 19:00.36 | durcyn | auto-disable itself if no ktm users are detected would be spiffy |
| 19:00.38 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 19:00.46 | Funkeh` | wake up your master is active |
| 19:00.46 | durcyn | or hell, off by default, and make people figure out how to use it if they really want it. |
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| 19:01.37 | Adirelle | Saroz: ATM it seeams that KTM data overrides Threat one... they won't be added |
| 19:01.50 | Adirelle | Saroz: that's how it is handled by Threat-1.0 |
| 19:01.55 | Saroz | that sucks |
| 19:03.12 | Adirelle | I know :p |
| 19:03.19 | Psylo | bartender3 error latest version : http://pastebin.com/929823 |
| 19:03.46 | Psylo | but i think nevcairiel don't care about his add ons bugs :) |
| 19:04.40 | Thorgard^2 | Doesn't look like a Bartender error.. more like a Waterfall error. ;P |
| 19:04.46 | nevcairiel | you know, i hate people like you, really. why do you expect me to spend all my friday evening on your problems? be thankful that we spent so much time writing the addons in the first place |
| 19:05.06 | nevcairiel | pay me |
| 19:05.10 | nevcairiel | and i support you fulltime |
| 19:05.43 | Psylo | just correst your fucking add ons bugs when users take some time to report them |
| 19:05.48 | Thorgard^2 | ... |
| 19:05.52 | Psylo | and i hate you too thx |
| 19:06.01 | AKX | Psylo, no one is forcing you to use Bartender3. |
| 19:06.06 | Arrowmaster | can you feel the love in here? |
| 19:06.36 | Psylo | no one is forcing nevcairiel to developp bartender3 |
| 19:06.46 | Thorgard^2 | Psylo, no, but that's not the point. |
| 19:06.50 | kebinusan | is there a dkp bidding mod on the svn that doesnt require a client? |
| 19:06.55 | Saroz | LOOOOL |
| 19:07.08 | nevcairiel | you know, that argument really sucked :D |
| 19:07.18 | kebinusan | or Im open to suggestions for non svn dkp bid mods |
| 19:07.20 | nevcairiel | no, noone is forcing me, so be thankful that i did |
| 19:07.29 | nevcairiel | or dont use it :P |
| 19:07.30 | AKX | AKX's Addon Development Tip of the Day: Read the documentation. |
| 19:07.37 | Psylo | this is the point, you developp an add on you take the responsibility to have bug reports from users, if you d'ont want that use it only for yourself |
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| 19:08.01 | Saroz | stfu Psylo |
| 19:08.04 | Arrowmaster | i need a copy of battlefield2142..... i think i somehow ended up with an EA account that has already has bf2142 registered on it |
| 19:08.17 | shieldb | pretty sure most authors do write for their own benefit more then others |
| 19:08.24 | Saroz | yup |
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| 19:08.27 | Saroz | just be happy he wrote it |
| 19:08.34 | shieldb | it's just pretty swell of them to toss it somewhere the rest of us can get to it |
| 19:09.00 | Psylo | oh yes thx god developpers we will pray for you every days ... |
| 19:09.12 | Arrowmaster | heh thats why the copy of GoldenRun on the svn just works but doesnt have much configuration or localization, im too lazy |
| 19:09.57 | shieldb | Psylo, I don't think that's the point either |
| 19:10.50 | Psylo | - i have a problem with your add on can you help me ? |
| 19:11.01 | Psylo | - no, i don't care, go away |
| 19:11.05 | Psylo | nevcairiel like |
| 19:11.11 | shieldb | that's pretty legitimate |
| 19:11.14 | Gnarfoz | indeed it is |
| 19:11.16 | Psylo | no it's not |
| 19:11.22 | binder | I've never had that kind of response here |
| 19:11.36 | nevcairiel | thats not what i said either, its what he thinks :P |
| 19:11.37 | Psylo | this is a asshole answer |
| 19:11.40 | binder | esp when hyperChipmunk had the skull making addon :P |
| 19:11.48 | Gnarfoz | you're the asshole in this case, though :D |
| 19:11.52 | Psylo | nevcairiel that's what you think |
| 19:12.07 | nevcairiel | thats what every developer thinks |
| 19:12.08 | shieldb | nobody forced you to download from the SVN, if you have problems with the current rev and an older one works better, use that |
| 19:12.09 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:12.20 | Psylo | "it works for me" and then no answer at all my tries to communicate with you |
| 19:12.28 | Gnarfoz | 'tries'? |
| 19:12.32 | Gnarfoz | looked like just one |
| 19:12.45 | Thorgard^2 | Gnarfoz, scroll up. ;P |
| 19:12.47 | Psylo | look better |
| 19:13.00 | Gnarfoz | I'm looking might fine, thank you xD |
| 19:13.07 | Gnarfoz | +y :\ |
| 19:13.09 | Psylo | ahah |
| 19:13.21 | alext | good thing to do with wowaceupdater is just to make sure it dumps em in the recycle bin |
| 19:13.25 | alext | then empty your bin every week or so |
| 19:13.27 | Psylo | all the versions i tried have this problem |
| 19:13.30 | Gnarfoz | shieldb got your answer though. downgrade until it works. |
| 19:13.30 | alext | lets you go back a rev or two if their bogus |
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| 19:13.42 | nevcairiel | its no issue with bt3 |
| 19:13.46 | nevcairiel | i havent heard it once before |
| 19:13.53 | nevcairiel | and people report the smallest bugs |
| 19:14.22 | nevcairiel | Psylo: a generic hint, disable everything but bartender3, and try again. if it works then, enable step by step, and find out which addon blocks it. |
| 19:14.34 | alext | when did yah last update bartender3? |
| 19:14.45 | alext | i pulled the latest as of 9pm EST last night |
| 19:14.53 | alext | and it worked fine in all situations... pvp/pve/raiding |
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| 19:15.24 | Psylo | it works without bt3 enabled and all others addons activate |
| 19:15.59 | ag` | It could still be a bug in some other addon causing a conflict, disable everything but bartender3 and try again. |
| 19:16.18 | ag` | If that doesn't work, keep everything disabled and delete/backup your WTF folder. Then try again. |
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| 19:17.25 | alext | yah that doesnt really say anything |
| 19:17.36 | alext | for instance my wow hard locks when I try to load BananaBar2 |
| 19:17.40 | alext | however its not a bug with the addon |
| 19:17.46 | alext | its a conflict between the addon and something else i run |
| 19:18.57 | Psylo | i can't try for the moment i have no quest item that enable the casting bar |
| 19:19.39 | Thorgard^2 | Psylo, you get that error you posted when you try using the item that starts a casting bar? |
| 19:20.28 | nevcairiel | no he cannot use items which start a casting bar from the actionbars .. i am not even sure i ever used one of those |
| 19:20.52 | Thorgard^2 | What was the error he posted from? "Waterfall-1.0-39176 (Bartender3):2666: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'value' (a nil value)" |
| 19:21.12 | nevcairiel | that sounds like another error in waterfall, and bartender is just the addon containing the library |
| 19:21.12 | Thorgard^2 | Different issue? ;P |
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| 19:22.32 | TheKarn | any chance of mounts being added to PT3bar? |
| 19:22.55 | TheKarn | and/or quest use-items |
| 19:23.06 | TheKarn | like whistle for the tuber quest etc |
| 19:23.11 | Punkie` | add them yourself? :o |
| 19:23.47 | nevcairiel | Psylo: i just got a pack of those charges for the one skyguard quest, and i casted that from my actionbar, no problems at all. it has to be another addon interefering. so if you really care about solving, do what i said earlier, go step by step. |
| 19:24.19 | Psylo | i will try |
| 19:24.21 | Psylo | thx |
| 19:25.20 | TheKarn | who got rev40000? |
| 19:25.25 | Josh_Borke | me |
| 19:25.26 | Josh_Borke | /flex |
| 19:25.31 | TheKarn | hehe nice |
| 19:25.32 | TheKarn | gz |
| 19:25.34 | AKX | 40k GET is... |
| 19:25.40 | nevcairiel | ckk ninjad it |
| 19:25.41 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: why are you using GUILD for guild queris and not replying in WHISPER? |
| 19:25.42 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 19:26.05 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: So that other people can see the responses and consume them if desired? |
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| 19:26.30 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: but that is sent every time someone logs in |
| 19:26.46 | Funkeh` | 10 people log in at the same time and its ultra spam |
| 19:27.08 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 19:27.10 | Arrowmaster | do like ctraid did, add a 10 second timer to the response |
| 19:27.18 | Funkeh` | why? |
| 19:27.23 | Funkeh` | WHISPER is the most efficient way |
| 19:27.34 | Funkeh` | people find out if they are out of date on login |
| 19:27.39 | Funkeh` | thats all that is required |
| 19:28.13 | Arrowmaster | what if ive been logged on for half the day and somebody updates then logs on? |
| 19:28.36 | Antiarc|Work | Their request includes their locale/revision info |
| 19:28.42 | Funkeh` | exactly |
| 19:28.43 | Antiarc|Work | So it's a publish/request in one |
| 19:28.57 | Funkeh` | so it makes sense to use whisper :) |
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| 19:30.55 | Thorgard^2 | Funkeh`, you can take your logic and shove it! |
| 19:32.39 | chutwig | do blood elf males or females have better animations? |
| 19:32.42 | chutwig | trying to decide |
| 19:33.48 | Antiarc|Work | I love the Napolean Dynamite dance. |
| 19:34.33 | steev64 | females do. |
| 19:34.34 | Arrowmaster | blood elf males looks like fags |
| 19:34.43 | Arrowmaster | decision solved |
| 19:37.02 | Bver | i have a suggestion for omen: Make a bar like the "pull out threat bar", but make it change dynamically depending on what mob you have targeted. So you always know your threat vs top threat |
| 19:37.09 | Megalon | so then chutwig, gl with your male bloodelf! |
| 19:37.32 | chutwig | i decided on female |
| 19:37.44 | Antiarc|Work | Bver: I'm gonna do that with the aggro bar |
| 19:37.44 | ag` | go with male! |
| 19:37.47 | Antiarc|Work | Just needs some special code |
| 19:37.57 | Bver | nice |
| 19:38.06 | Bver | thats everyones favorite part in our guild |
| 19:38.27 | Antiarc|Work | http://inorpo-b.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/59/5927d101e04a7885da64b5672ba16097b9de5e0f.jpg |
| 19:38.49 | Bver | does the red area in the bar account for range vs melee range? |
| 19:38.59 | Antiarc|Work | Bver: Yup |
| 19:39.11 | Antiarc|Work | The margin changes depending your range |
| 19:39.40 | Bver | so if i hit the start of red i pull aggro, or does it have to go to the end of the bar? |
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| 19:40.11 | Antiarc|Work | Goes to the end of the bar. |
| 19:40.25 | Antiarc|Work | The start of the red bar is "you've passed your tank's aggro" |
| 19:40.25 | krka | Antiarc|Work: You can't spell passed without ass! |
| 19:40.40 | Antiarc|Work | That bot is really annoying. :P |
| 19:41.39 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: If I commit a reply-in-whisper change, will you test it? |
| 19:41.41 | Thorgard^2 | Yeah, it's already passed the annoying threshold. |
| 19:41.41 | krka | Thorgard^2: You can't spell passed without ass! |
| 19:41.50 | Antiarc|Work | Though, wait, hm |
| 19:41.56 | Antiarc|Work | That won't be backwards compatible at all. |
| 19:42.36 | Arrowmaster | commit a change that lets it listen to whispers first |
| 19:42.39 | Arrowmaster | then wait a while |
| 19:42.51 | Arrowmaster | then commit a change that makes it send whispers |
| 19:43.17 | Antiarc|Work | I could just reply to both guild and whisper for now I guess |
| 19:44.02 | *** kick/#wowace [krka!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (passed) |
| 19:44.30 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah |
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| 19:46.03 | NeoTron | Rumor has it you can't spell kicked without ick |
| 19:46.21 | NeoTron | I do enjoy the kick message. :) |
| 19:46.22 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: yeah ill test it |
| 19:46.23 | Chompers | whos krka? |
| 19:46.24 | kenlyric | you can't spell banned without NAD |
| 19:46.29 | Funkeh` | but backwards compatability does not matter |
| 19:46.31 | Funkeh` | its a beta |
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| 19:47.04 | AKX | So... |
| 19:47.05 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: Eh. For version queries, I think that backwards compatibility is especially important |
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| 19:47.10 | Antiarc|Work | Because that directly prompts upgrades |
| 19:47.16 | AKX | I made a Cartographer module... called HeatMap. |
| 19:47.30 | AKX | It divides each zone into 50x50 parts and highlights your "trail" there. |
| 19:47.34 | AKX | A friend requested it. |
| 19:47.43 | AKX | So they can see where they've been flower farmin'. |
| 19:47.57 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: not really |
| 19:47.58 | nymbia | AKX: that's pretty cool, wtb |
| 19:48.00 | Funkeh` | its a beta mod |
| 19:48.02 | kergoth | sounds nifty. can you save it or portions of it for later use? :) |
| 19:48.05 | kenlyric | UPLOAD |
| 19:48.07 | Funkeh` | peopel already know to update frequently |
| 19:48.17 | Chompers | can it track guildies? |
| 19:48.18 | AKX | kergoth, nope. The heatmap database is volatile. |
| 19:48.23 | AKX | And no, Chompers. |
| 19:48.23 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: Based on my experience with my own guild, they don't :P |
| 19:48.27 | Chompers | i want to find their secret herb routes |
| 19:48.31 | Antiarc|Work | And I want to be able to see when they're out of date |
| 19:48.32 | nymbia | lol |
| 19:48.40 | AKX | Haha, Chompers, that's a cool idea actually ;D |
| 19:50.05 | Antiarc|Work | Committed, Funkeh` |
| 19:50.22 | Funkeh` | then bitch at them :) |
| 19:50.47 | kebinusan | See what you do is calculate how many of what types of herbs/mines they've looted and get on their case for not donating enough to the guild bank |
| 19:51.13 | kenlyric | kebinusan: then I say, fuck you, mine your own ores. |
| 19:51.21 | kenlyric | you lazy fuckheads. |
| 19:51.22 | Chompers | i tell my guild to use WAU, but Antiarc updates so many times in the day they're always out of date |
| 19:51.24 | kenlyric | but, that's my guild. |
| 19:51.24 | kebinusan | or just track when they're in combat near a node so you can swoop in and take it :-) |
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| 19:52.17 | AKX | Why does showing the Cartographer map emit a ZoneChanged event? O.o |
| 19:53.44 | AKX | Erm, ChangeZone. |
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| 20:01.33 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=23863 |
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| 20:07.45 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: thats you ? :P |
| 20:08.03 | Wixi | anyone know about MSTB supressions? |
| 20:08.12 | Wixi | MSBT* |
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| 20:10.52 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: Haha, no :P |
| 20:10.54 | trh | Antiarc|Work: http://ace.pastey.net/56912 |
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| 20:11.09 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: got a threat-1.0 bug report |
| 20:11.29 | Antiarc|Work | trh: What revision? |
| 20:11.30 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Hit me |
| 20:11.35 | kenlyric | anyone here a shadow priest notice something odd about your wand damage? |
| 20:11.48 | trh | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0 40003, Omen r40055 |
| 20:12.08 | Arrowmaster | i pull a mob with curse of shadow and and i still have 0 threat, cast curse of shadow again and have 120 threat, cast 3rd time and have 240 threat |
| 20:12.26 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, ok. Thought I fixed that one but I'll doublecheck it |
| 20:12.41 | Arrowmaster | just updated before i logged on |
| 20:13.04 | nadas | hmm, how do i enable threat debug messages? :) |
| 20:13.05 | Killmore | Arrowmaster: sure you didnt get a resist on the first cast ? :P |
| 20:13.16 | kenlyric | as far as I can tell, my 161 dps wand should be at 201 dps with wand spec. But it's 221. |
| 20:13.45 | Arrowmaster | Killmore: im sure ive tested this over and over |
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| 20:14.06 | Gngsk | what does everyone here use to manage totems? I tried coe but it seems more complicated than I need |
| 20:14.10 | Arrowmaster | pulling with a damage spell gives threat like it should |
| 20:14.28 | sbu | kenlyric: mhhm, wand spec is okay? :o |
| 20:14.42 | kenlyric | sbu: I think darkness is applying to wand damage :) |
| 20:14.49 | sbu | yup does |
| 20:14.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: I use a 4x6 block of action buttons, and GotWood |
| 20:14.54 | kenlyric | arcane instability on mages is applying to wand damage. |
| 20:14.59 | kenlyric | sbu: it's not suppose to :) |
| 20:15.08 | Tornhoof | yata |
| 20:15.09 | Antiarc|Work | nadas: /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true |
| 20:15.09 | sbu | ah uhm nvm |
| 20:15.15 | sbu | was talking about shadow vuln. |
| 20:15.19 | sbu | w/ shadow wands |
| 20:15.31 | nadas | Antiarc|Work: thx |
| 20:15.50 | kenlyric | yeah, shadow vuln with shadow wands works, but you don't see that in the char pane. |
| 20:15.52 | Dotted | Gngsk Yata |
| 20:16.16 | Saint-N | ya know theres just something so terribly wrong with science nerds rapping |
| 20:16.30 | deltron | what style of rap? |
| 20:16.38 | Saint-N | scroll up to anti's link |
| 20:16.43 | Gngsk | dotted, I'll check it out |
| 20:16.53 | Gngsk | yata is basically just a totembar right? |
| 20:17.02 | Gngsk | so I'd need something else to show duration? |
| 20:17.07 | deltron | oh i won't go there |
| 20:17.09 | Elkano | hmpf... Omen just stoped updating data from KTM :/ runnkng r40008 |
| 20:17.10 | deltron | yata has timers |
| 20:17.17 | deltron | though I prefer to use shammyspy for the timers |
| 20:17.20 | hyperChipmunk | how's this look? http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2 |
| 20:17.20 | deltron | since it shows pulses |
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| 20:17.27 | Saint-N | in the 50s to 90s nerds were poindexters and shunned |
| 20:17.28 | deltron | but shammyspy doesn't show cooldowns |
| 20:17.32 | Saint-N | today we control the world |
| 20:17.58 | Saint-N | revert to your jockish ways and that happy little cellphone and internet porn site you use will cease to exist ;P |
| 20:18.46 | Killmore | Elkano: not a bad thing, I hate KTM :P |
| 20:18.51 | Saint-N | now if only we could get contracts like football and basketball players ;P |
| 20:19.20 | rantanman | will Omen ever send informations back to ktm? |
| 20:19.35 | Gngsk | deltron, where can I check out shammyspy? |
| 20:19.45 | deltron | Gngsk: files.wowace.com |
| 20:20.07 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc|Work: http://ace.pastey.net/56913 (Threat 40100, omen breaks afterwards, of course) |
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| 20:20.36 | Elkano | Killmore, if they want to see my thread the'll have to use omen anyways ;) but still I want to see theirs |
| 20:20.47 | Gngsk | deltron, how convenient |
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| 20:21.29 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks, just checked in a fix, Gngsk |
| 20:22.00 | Gngsk | ? |
| 20:22.05 | Gngsk | I'm not having any issues with Threat! |
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| 20:22.20 | rantanman | Antiarc|Work: will Omen ever send informations back to ktm? |
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| 20:23.11 | Antiarc|Work | Err, Gnarfoz, sorry. |
| 20:23.15 | Antiarc|Work | rantanman: Eventually, I hope. |
| 20:23.40 | Gngsk | lies, you hope everyone just switches to Omen! |
| 20:23.44 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc|Work: you are so full of win! :) |
| 20:24.13 | rantanman | some guys in my guild still use titanbar, i dont think they ever will switch to any ace addon |
| 20:24.48 | deltron | wtf titan? |
| 20:24.58 | deltron | I bet they only use it for the repair plugin |
| 20:25.22 | jme | heh, just watched the nihilum vs illidan video |
| 20:25.26 | Gnarfoz | I hates files sometimes |
| 20:25.48 | Gnarfoz | now it's at 40101 for threat, but 40102 was commited right afterwards :p |
| 20:26.06 | Killmore | im an officer of my guild, it will be easy to make everyone switch to Omen (Only when Antiarc will fix the problem with CC mobs gaining threat :P) |
| 20:26.32 | nadas | and hydross+leo resets :) |
| 20:26.33 | kenlyric | ow my head the math. |
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| 20:26.36 | Gngsk | CC mobs don't gain threat? |
| 20:26.44 | nadas | it's weird, i get the debug info for threat wipe on leo |
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| 20:26.47 | kenlyric | I'm gettting 32% increasing in wand damage when I go into shadowform. |
| 20:26.48 | nadas | but it's not happening |
| 20:26.51 | hyperChipmunk | dagnabbit! somebody look at meh page. i spent the last 2 hours writing it |
| 20:26.52 | deltron | I bet they only use it for the repair plugin |
| 20:26.55 | deltron | easdf |
| 20:26.59 | deltron | since you can still sunder sheep |
| 20:27.13 | Killmore | Gngsk: sheep a mob for the whole fight and let the sheep break.. they mob will go on your mage, not the healer |
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| 20:27.21 | hyperChipmunk | I hate you all |
| 20:27.24 | Gngsk | Killmore, false |
| 20:27.29 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, I looked at it |
| 20:27.34 | Killmore | Gnarfoz: nop. |
| 20:27.46 | Tornhoof | well |
| 20:27.52 | Tornhoof | i often had banned mobs and stuff |
| 20:27.52 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, but you should like, fix that frame positioning thing! |
| 20:27.54 | Tornhoof | aggroing me |
| 20:27.58 | Tornhoof | while being banned |
| 20:27.59 | hyperChipmunk | i did |
| 20:28.02 | hyperChipmunk | yesterday |
| 20:28.08 | Gngsk | I updated today and it persists! |
| 20:28.13 | Gngsk | do I have to nuke SVs or anything? |
| 20:28.14 | deltron | I had a lot of banished mobs aggro me |
| 20:28.19 | hyperChipmunk | reset your profile |
| 20:28.22 | Xuerian | hyperChipmunk: Got Xloot beat. |
| 20:28.22 | Gngsk | k |
| 20:28.34 | Killmore | deltron: because you land a heal just after the banish fade.. |
| 20:28.35 | hyperChipmunk | xloot? |
| 20:28.40 | Gngsk | then thanks, your wiki looks super duper |
| 20:28.46 | Xuerian | http://wowace.com/wiki/XLoot |
| 20:28.49 | deltron | Killmore: probably, I heal a lot :P |
| 20:29.10 | Xuerian | Mainly because most of it is wrong XD |
| 20:29.14 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 20:29.21 | Xuerian | Looks nice though. |
| 20:29.21 | hyperChipmunk | i was gonna say it looks pretty good |
| 20:29.24 | Xuerian | Good layout of details |
| 20:29.31 | Xuerian | (I mean BM's page >_>) |
| 20:29.40 | jme | Xuerian: those shots look pretty good |
| 20:29.50 | hyperChipmunk | it's not done |
| 20:29.52 | Xuerian | jmeThey're old as grandma-ass |
| 20:29.55 | jme | oh |
| 20:30.01 | jme | color me dumb then |
| 20:30.09 | hyperChipmunk | i still gonna go in detail because there's lots of nifty nuances |
| 20:30.25 | Gngsk | yeah, do that |
| 20:30.25 | hyperChipmunk | but hopefully that's enough for people who want to know what the heck it is |
| 20:30.38 | hyperChipmunk | but first, need a page for BMI |
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| 20:30.49 | Gngsk | I gotta read that stuff so I can streamline my bulkmail experience |
| 20:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 20:31.20 | Killmore | try something simple in outlands, sheep the mob, ask a lock to lifetap, heal him for 100k threat (dont forget to refresh the sheep) and wait until the sheep break by itself.. |
| 20:31.21 | Xuerian | jme: I wish someone would goss some more epic loot pics of it my way =P. hyperChipmunk: The BM page does look good though, like I said I mainly like how well you've outlined the details so far, as well as the commands |
| 20:31.28 | Gngsk | one thing I find myself really missing from the old gmail is those check boxes though, gonna take about another year to get used to not having those |
| 20:31.44 | hyperChipmunk | well, I made sure that everything relevant is there; you can extrapolate all the nifty tricks from the info given |
| 20:32.02 | jme | Xuerian: yeah i just noticed the desecrated helm items. are those the old t3 token turnins? |
| 20:32.04 | trh | need mass mail tab with ace2 =) |
| 20:32.10 | Xuerian | jme: Yeah =P |
| 20:32.15 | jme | Xuerian: ahh |
| 20:32.17 | kenlyric | Gngsk: actually having a hint for what the command is to return might help me :) |
| 20:32.26 | hyperChipmunk | trh: that's what this does |
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| 20:32.42 | trh | hyperChipmunk: but postman hadn't one :( |
| 20:32.43 | Gngsk | kenlyric, hint used to be there, ctrl-click right? |
| 20:32.49 | trh | hyperChipmunk: neither had postal |
| 20:32.59 | kenlyric | I dunno. Everything I treid just opened stuff :) |
| 20:34.00 | Gngsk | elseif self.db.char.ctrlRet and IsControlKeyDown() and not wasReturned and canReply then ReturnInboxItem(index) |
| 20:34.07 | Gngsk | looks like control to me! |
| 20:34.31 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's an option |
| 20:34.32 | Gngsk | alt deletes it looks like |
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| 20:34.45 | hyperChipmunk | if the option is set, yea |
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| 20:34.56 | hyperChipmunk | alt-delete is off by default |
| 20:35.02 | hyperChipmunk | shift-take and ctrl-return are on |
| 20:35.21 | Gngsk | would it ever be possible to have that checkbox type functionality in bm2inbox? |
| 20:35.31 | Gngsk | like ctrl-shift-click to highlite, then open selected |
| 20:35.41 | Peoii | Ok, that's the 4th time in 2 days wow has had a hard crash... rebooted this time, but argh, this is annoying. |
| 20:35.42 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: why check boxes when you can just check items? |
| 20:35.58 | Gngsk | that's what I mean, it doesn't have to be boxes |
| 20:36.04 | hyperChipmunk | no i mean |
| 20:36.10 | Xuerian | IsControlKeyDown() isn't very reliable >_o |
| 20:36.11 | Gngsk | I mean, can I just select the items I want to have opened, then have them all opened at once |
| 20:36.20 | hyperChipmunk | what's the difference? |
| 20:36.23 | Gngsk | instead of just shift clicking all the items I wanna open |
| 20:36.23 | Xuerian | IsModifierKeyDown() |
| 20:36.59 | deltron | like the 'take all' or 'take marked' boxes? |
| 20:37.32 | hyperChipmunk | what's the difference between checking boxes and taking all at once and just having them taken as you check them? |
| 20:38.07 | Gngsk | not waiting between server responses to check items |
| 20:38.13 | Xuerian | Perceiving spatial shifts, as well |
| 20:38.18 | hyperChipmunk | go from the bottom up |
| 20:38.28 | shieldb | hyperChipmunk, what's the difference between holding down alt to queue up a mail send and sending all at once or just sending as you alt click them? :) |
| 20:39.17 | trh | hyperChipmunk: i can see the items before i click on "send" |
| 20:39.44 | Gngsk | deltron, 'take marked' is exactly what I want, but it doesn't exist atm |
| 20:39.47 | trh | hyperChipmunk: as a whole.. not just the one before i send it |
| 20:39.48 | hyperChipmunk | shieldb: you can ctrl-shift-click if you want immediately, but alt click puts them in the box so you can see how the rules will resolve the destination |
| 20:40.07 | durcyn | hrm, setting recipient and alt-click with postal is all i need - i can see them in my bags just as well as in the bm2 queue |
| 20:40.14 | durcyn | but hey, to each his own. there's more than one way to skin a cat. |
| 20:40.17 | Peoii | I'm a huge fan of being able to re-check what exactly I'm sending before I actually send that item. |
| 20:40.21 | deltron | Gngsk: yeah, that's one thing I miss |
| 20:40.24 | Peoii | or those items. |
| 20:40.28 | shieldb | it was more of a rhetorical question |
| 20:40.35 | durcyn | as long as the damn cat is naked at the end of the operation, hey? |
| 20:40.47 | hyperChipmunk | well, taking an item is taking an item |
| 20:40.58 | hyperChipmunk | there's potential ambiguity from the rules when sending |
| 20:40.58 | shieldb | it just seemed odd to me to have the ability to queue up sending and make changes before going all at once, and not want to be able to queue up opening and make changes before doing it all at once |
| 20:41.02 | Xuerian | lol durcyn |
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| 20:41.45 | hyperChipmunk | I can do it easily; i'm just kinda confused about what purpose it'd serve |
| 20:42.20 | sbu | wah Antiarc|Work |
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| 20:42.23 | Gngsk | so you can queue up what you want to open, and go afk |
| 20:42.26 | sbu | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0.lua:726: attempt to index field 'OnCommReceiveGuild' (a nil value) |
| 20:42.30 | Gngsk | instead of sitting there and shift clicking each item |
| 20:42.36 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Update |
| 20:42.39 | Xuerian | RecieveGuild? 0_o |
| 20:42.48 | kenlyric | something is seriously screwed up with wand damge. I just got a 5% damage buff from a zone, and the damage went up 10% |
| 20:42.52 | kenlyric | I just must be doing this math wrong. |
| 20:42.52 | hyperChipmunk | but you have to click them still! |
| 20:42.53 | sbu | hm okay then another 2 minutes |
| 20:43.00 | hyperChipmunk | there's no server delay in receiving mail |
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| 20:43.16 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, o_O ? |
| 20:43.31 | hyperChipmunk | the only delay is the interface |
| 20:43.39 | Gngsk | it's still delay! |
| 20:43.41 | hyperChipmunk | you can get around that by going from the bottom-up |
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| 20:44.14 | Gngsk | okay, I see what you mean |
| 20:44.27 | Gngsk | like I said, it's fine if you wanna keep it that way, but it'll take me another year to get used to it |
| 20:44.54 | hyperChipmunk | i don't mind adding it in; it just seems bizarre |
| 20:45.10 | hyperChipmunk | the idea is to make doing mail faster, not slower |
| 20:45.15 | Gngsk | You do things for a long time and get used to it. |
| 20:45.36 | shieldb | well for example if I got mailed 27 green items from five different people to DE and eleven gems to cut for another four people - I don't want to misclick on opening one and lump someone's item in with the batch from another person |
| 20:45.57 | shieldb | so being able to check everything from one person and then go "ok open those" then DE/Cut the gems and send them back before I handle the next batch would be great |
| 20:45.58 | hyperChipmunk | thank you |
| 20:46.02 | hyperChipmunk | that was what i was looking for |
| 20:46.10 | kenlyric | oh good, it's because I can't do math. |
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| 20:46.36 | hyperChipmunk | that's exactly the kind of example i wanted to hear |
| 20:46.36 | Imp4kT | What is the mod called that displays your cooldowns as bars? |
| 20:46.41 | hyperChipmunk | because i couldn't think of it |
| 20:46.41 | durcyn | Imp4kT: Hourglass |
| 20:46.49 | hyperChipmunk | s/it/one/ |
| 20:47.04 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 20:47.26 | Imp4kT | Is that wowace durcyn |
| 20:47.34 | durcyn | Imp4kT: Yes. |
| 20:47.45 | Imp4kT | sweet <3 |
| 20:48.25 | Arrowmaster | hourglass is great, except for that now that my pally has divine sheild it displays 2 bars when i use it |
| 20:48.43 | Gngsk | Arrowmaster, add a blacklist! |
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| 20:49.20 | hyperChipmunk | it does that with my poultryizers too |
| 20:49.29 | hyperChipmunk | shows 'em both |
| 20:49.34 | NightHawkTheSane | and hunter traps |
| 20:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | and presumably anything that shares cooldowns |
| 20:49.47 | Shamino | so, how do i use pcall function from AceLibrary to call a function dynamically by passing the function name as a string? is that possible ? |
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| 20:50.35 | hyperChipmunk | you can edit the source |
| 20:50.43 | hyperChipmunk | there's code for hunter traps, it's just edited out |
| 20:50.48 | nadas | Antiarc|Work: does "No player named 'CLIENT_INFO' is currently playing." mean anything to you? :) |
| 20:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | Arrowmaster: should be trivial to do for you, too |
| 20:51.14 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: is there? i hadn't bothered to look as i'm really lazy |
| 20:51.21 | Antiarc|Work | nadas: Blame Funkeh`! :P |
| 20:51.23 | Antiarc|Work | Lemme see. |
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| 20:51.37 | hyperChipmunk | line 64 in core.lua |
| 20:52.00 | Higdur | is it known which addon causes the freeze on login when in a raid? |
| 20:52.06 | hyperChipmunk | Arrowmaster: just add an entry for divine shield, too |
| 20:53.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah ill probably do that when i get around to playing my pally again |
| 20:53.43 | Antiarc|Work | nadas: Fix checked in |
| 20:54.00 | nadas | aiight |
| 20:54.11 | nadas | let's see if this works :p |
| 20:54.28 | nadas | and thank you :) |
| 20:55.28 | nadas | seems better :p |
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| 20:59.55 | hyperChipmunk | shieldb: i'm putting in the Take Selected, but you might consider sorting by Sender for the operation you described |
| 21:00.35 | hyperChipmunk | you'd have to be really dumb to screw it up that way >8P |
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| 21:01.29 | Higdur | any ETA on fixing the bug with Grid when logging on into a raid? |
| 21:01.31 | kergoth | bm2inbox should have an option to 'take all' in order of the current sort in the bm2inbox view. then you could sort by ttl and take the stuff thatll expire soonest first |
| 21:01.45 | deltron | Higdur: eh? |
| 21:01.46 | moonsorrow | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0-40003 (Aloft):847: Assertion failed: type(nil --[=[partyUnits[player]]=]) == "string" |
| 21:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: ttl is the default mailbox order |
| 21:01.57 | hyperChipmunk | it does that anyway |
| 21:02.05 | durcyn | Higdur: not a grid bug. |
| 21:02.09 | Higdur | ok |
| 21:02.17 | Higdur | which addon or what causes it then? |
| 21:02.20 | durcyn | blizzard. |
| 21:03.02 | rantanman | ag_UnitFrames |
| 21:03.02 | rantanman | * Fixed lockup when logging in while in a raid |
| 21:03.02 | kergoth | oh, cool, didnt realize |
| 21:03.23 | rantanman | so maybe its agufs fault too |
| 21:04.12 | Higdur | http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/870 |
| 21:04.48 | Higdur | seems like a very easy fix |
| 21:04.54 | shieldb | hyperChipmunk, thanks a ton, I'll give both a try |
| 21:05.00 | rantanman | hmm no problems at all with grid here |
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| 21:05.45 | Higdur | I have this problem all the time |
| 21:05.54 | Higdur | and a few others I know too |
| 21:06.06 | Tornhoof | kicking from raid works fine |
| 21:06.15 | Higdur | yeah |
| 21:06.24 | Higdur | that does not help me to do a bg though :) |
| 21:06.27 | deltron | i heard a lot of issues with aguf lately heh |
| 21:06.54 | Higdur | as you are put into a raid upon entering the bg I crash on entering |
| 21:06.57 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:06.59 | Higdur | or freeze rather |
| 21:07.01 | ckknight | I'm back |
| 21:07.02 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: moo |
| 21:07.08 | Antiarc|Work | oom! |
| 21:07.27 | ckknight | sbu: not yet, gonna work on that today (wrt moving icons in PitBull) |
| 21:08.00 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: http://wow.reaktio.net/th.txt <- happened in middle of combat |
| 21:08.13 | ckknight | clad|work: as a somewhat co-author of Threat-1.0, I do believe I had a place in the thread. |
| 21:08.18 | Antiarc|Work | Revision? |
| 21:08.39 | ckknight | durcyn: pong |
| 21:08.46 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: no idea, just checkouted the latest version of Assessment 10mins ago |
| 21:08.53 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, ok |
| 21:09.09 | moonsorrow | Antiarc|Work: saw my bug report, too? |
| 21:09.11 | clad|work | ckknight: I don't, you weren't a part of the conversation, and Threat-1.0 had nothing to do with it. |
| 21:09.21 | Antiarc|Work | moonsorrow: yeah, sorry :) |
| 21:09.28 | clad|work | ckknight: And my opinion clearly doesn't matter, so don't let it both you *shrug* |
| 21:09.30 | hyperChipmunk | mikma: I'm tempted to kick you for butchering that word so badly |
| 21:09.39 | ckknight | okay then. |
| 21:09.39 | moonsorrow | Antiarc|Work: k ;) |
| 21:09.45 | hyperChipmunk | reading it caused me physical pain |
| 21:09.48 | mikma | hyperChipmunk: i don't give a fuck what you do |
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| 21:10.06 | Gngsk | ooh snap, mikma just checkouted hC's face! |
| 21:10.33 | Higdur | I'm guessing the problem applies to all addons with raidframes |
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| 21:11.13 | Higdur | http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1041 <- aguf too |
| 21:11.36 | ckknight | Higdur: which problem? |
| 21:11.47 | Higdur | freeze on login while in raid |
| 21:11.51 | ckknight | ah |
| 21:11.51 | Dustwhisper | i have that issue aswell |
| 21:11.54 | Dustwhisper | especially in serpentshrine |
| 21:11.58 | Dustwhisper | and simular |
| 21:12.01 | ckknight | yea, I don't know about that. |
| 21:12.04 | ckknight | not sure how to reproduce |
| 21:12.14 | ckknight | since I can log on fine in most cases |
| 21:12.23 | AKX | ckknight, have I ever told you how much I love you? |
| 21:12.36 | ckknight | at least twice now |
| 21:12.38 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 21:12.42 | Dustwhisper | it either freezes or forcelogs you out |
| 21:12.44 | AKX | PitBull and Carto~ |
| 21:12.45 | Dustwhisper | very fucking annoying |
| 21:12.47 | Dustwhisper | only thing that solves it |
| 21:12.50 | Dustwhisper | is get kicked from raid |
| 21:12.52 | Dustwhisper | login fast |
| 21:12.54 | Dustwhisper | get reinvited |
| 21:12.55 | Higdur | exactly |
| 21:13.01 | Higdur | but that doesn't work on BGs |
| 21:13.28 | durcyn | ckknight: did you see the thread on wowace forums earlier about looknfeel being the source of zonelevel being left off of WorldMapFrameAreaLabel? |
| 21:13.39 | ckknight | nope |
| 21:13.41 | Higdur | it freezes for about 5-10 min, then disconnects me |
| 21:14.00 | Higdur | at least that's what it has been doing now the last 3 times (trying to join wsg) |
| 21:14.31 | durcyn | ckknight: apparently zonelevel shows if lnf is disabled. the only overlap i can find is the WorldMapFrameAreaLabel Show/Hide in lnf. |
| 21:14.42 | Higdur | I got a second frame drawn just before disconnect |
| 21:14.49 | durcyn | unless you don't care, in which case i'm barking up the wrong tree anyway :o |
| 21:14.59 | Higdur | noted that memory usage had about doubled from normal |
| 21:15.04 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: i can look the version if you need, but notice also that i didn't relog after updating |
| 21:15.23 | Antiarc|Work | Shouldn't matter, I think |
| 21:15.39 | ckknight | durcyn: I'll be looking into it |
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| 21:16.17 | Higdur | ckknight: according to http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/870 it's a pretty easy fix |
| 21:16.42 | ckknight | Higdur: PitBull has a delay on raidframe loading. |
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| 21:17.06 | Higdur | so add that for aguf and grid too then :) |
| 21:17.14 | Higdur | who are responsible developers? |
| 21:17.33 | Higdur | just disabled both aguf and grid and it worked fine |
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| 21:18.33 | krka | heh, sorry for my script, forgot to turn it off |
| 21:18.59 | Higdur | hm |
| 21:19.14 | Higdur | actually it worked with only grid enabled too |
| 21:19.22 | Hjalte | Higdur, what are you talking about? Just entered the channel. |
| 21:19.23 | Higdur | this time |
| 21:19.35 | Higdur | freeze on login while in raid |
| 21:19.43 | Higdur | aguf and grid |
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| 21:19.52 | Higdur | though it seems grid works now |
| 21:20.10 | Higdur | maybe it was fixed in the last week |
| 21:20.12 | Punkie` | apparently it can happen with no addons too |
| 21:20.13 | Mech0z_ | any wowace alternative to auctionner? |
| 21:20.17 | ckknight | is CIA-22 slow/dead? |
| 21:20.27 | shieldb | Mech0z_, not really |
| 21:20.32 | Mech0z_ | ok |
| 21:20.37 | ckknight | Mech0z_: Fence/KCI, but not as good, really |
| 21:20.47 | ckknight | I run Auctioneer just on my bank char |
| 21:20.48 | shieldb | there are some addons that have some of the functionality of auctioneer, but no real replacement |
| 21:20.49 | Antiarc|Work | Dead, unless it's lagging by like 8 hours |
| 21:20.56 | Mech0z_ | ok, would love full ace interface for easy updating :) |
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| 21:21.25 | deltron | most of my interface is ace stuff |
| 21:21.34 | ckknight | okay, Higdur, I added another check to PitBull to make sure it doesn't create early |
| 21:21.35 | shieldb | really all I end up using is the post auctions tab in auctioneer but I don't think there's a replacement for that yet |
| 21:21.35 | harl|WoW | "Update, update.." (peon) |
| 21:22.00 | Higdur | maybe I should ditch aguf and go for PitBull instead |
| 21:22.29 | Higdur | I kinda liked my aguf setup though |
| 21:22.32 | Higdur | ah well |
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| 21:23.26 | Mech0z_ | will deinstall auctioneer by second thought. Our servers alliance AH is dead anyway .... |
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| 21:24.36 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:25.48 | rantanman | mhh Fubar_ClockFu only Displays "DATE" as the datestring |
| 21:26.15 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
| 21:26.20 | Mech0z_ | btw can we soon replace ktm :o |
| 21:26.31 | ckknight | Mech0z_: so soon |
| 21:26.35 | Mech0z_ | nice |
| 21:26.45 | NeoTron | hmm. I wonder if a group can clear heroic SH up to/including kargath |
| 21:26.47 | ckknight | granted, it's one of those situations where the future is better tomorrow |
| 21:26.48 | Mech0z_ | my labtop dont such mods :p |
| 21:26.52 | NeoTron | and then swap in 5 different ppl to kill the executioner |
| 21:27.04 | Dotted | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5360/#comment_256728 <- :DD:D::::::DDDD:D:D::D:D:D::::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:DDDDD |
| 21:27.13 | shieldb | NeoTron, yes, you can do that |
| 21:27.19 | shieldb | however, no one can log out in the instance |
| 21:27.23 | moonsorrow | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0-40003 (Aloft):1442: table index is nil |
| 21:27.41 | Dotted | "Ace2 is like the Microsoft of WoW Addons." <- quote of the year :D |
| 21:27.47 | shieldb | once kargath dies the timer is over and you can take as long as you want to kill the executioner |
| 21:28.07 | NeoTron | shieldb: oh really? |
| 21:28.19 | shieldb | but if someone logs out in the instance, the instance server still considers them "inside" the instance |
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| 21:28.36 | Ominous | evening |
| 21:28.37 | shieldb | then when you bring a new person in, it counts that as a 6th person and invalidates all the quest items for that run |
| 21:28.39 | NeoTron | shieldb: I'd expect to have the 5 ppl waiting outside as kargath dies |
| 21:28.45 | shieldb | right right |
| 21:28.56 | ckknight | Dotted: Microsoft isn't so bad, really, technology-wise. Business-wise is questionable, but wowace isn't in business |
| 21:28.57 | NeoTron | so basically people go outside/hearth, invite new ppl who enter, until all original are gone |
| 21:29.08 | shieldb | yep |
| 21:29.09 | Mech0z_ | C#.net is a brilliant tool |
| 21:29.17 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 21:29.22 | shieldb | don't convert the group to a raid |
| 21:29.26 | shieldb | and no one can log out in the instance |
| 21:29.29 | shieldb | and you're good to go |
| 21:29.34 | Dotted | ckknight im aware of that, be we all know what he really means |
| 21:29.38 | Dotted | *mean |
| 21:29.40 | Mech0z_ | I hate all those MS haters who still use MS :p |
| 21:29.42 | shieldb | the executioner hits like a wuss so you can do it without a real tank, even |
| 21:29.42 | ckknight | Dotted: who said it? |
| 21:30.01 | ckknight | Mech0z_: I'm fond of MS's technology, not their business practices, basically |
| 21:30.03 | ckknight | and I use a Mac |
| 21:30.06 | Primer | <-- MS hater that uses MS (for games) |
| 21:30.10 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:30.14 | Mech0z_ | :p |
| 21:30.18 | Dotted | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5360/#comment_256728 <- ckknight |
| 21:30.26 | Ominous | ckknight: dosent passvalue get passed through disable etc in groups |
| 21:30.28 | *** join/#wowace Poag__ (n=Gale212@85-210-219-121.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 21:30.31 | Mech0z_ | well I just love they got some competition which normally is good for the consumer |
| 21:30.36 | ckknight | Ominous: should be |
| 21:30.48 | Ominous | hmm, need look at it |
| 21:31.10 | Primer | hey NeoTron |
| 21:31.12 | ckknight | Dotted: I want to squelch that comment |
| 21:31.36 | Dotted | gogo |
| 21:32.22 | ckknight | just committed fix to PerformanceFu. now it no longer requires FuBar |
| 21:32.42 | NeoTron | the executioner is really easy |
| 21:33.10 | hyperChipmunk | apparently ace addons are a waste of download bandwidth =\ |
| 21:33.45 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: ? |
| 21:33.54 | hyperChipmunk | a few comments above it |
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| 21:36.01 | ckknight | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/hay-be-nice-emokitteh-is-sensitive.jpg |
| 21:37.09 | trh | ckknight: a picture of kenco? |
| 21:37.16 | ckknight | lol. |
| 21:38.33 | Punkie` | to be fair, some mods don't need ace2 - but i find it much easier to learn making addons with |
| 21:39.12 | NeoTron | shieldb: so you sure timer stops? I heard it doens't stop until the executioner is engaged? |
| 21:39.29 | shieldb | the timer stops once kargath is dead as far as I know |
| 21:39.47 | shieldb | if you miss the timer it's because kargath yells to bring forth the prisoners/kill them/etc |
| 21:40.08 | NeoTron | even so last I did it in a good group we had like 10-15m left until the first timer |
| 21:40.29 | Nickenyfiken | lol Ace2 is using 95 MiB ^^ |
| 21:40.40 | Nickenyfiken | running standalone |
| 21:40.42 | Mech0z_ | Nickenyfiken you must have alot of mods :o |
| 21:40.51 | ckknight | I has an idea! |
| 21:40.56 | Nickenyfiken | well some addon must be buggy |
| 21:41.13 | Nickenyfiken | i installed Threattoklh 30 mins ago, might be it |
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| 21:41.35 | ckknight | Threattoklh? |
| 21:41.57 | hyperChipmunk | omen is a threat to klh indeed |
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| 21:42.10 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:42.37 | deltron | jeez |
| 21:42.37 | Mech0z_ | ckknight Would it be adviseable to delete KTM Threatmeter when the rest of the guild is running it? Like would I be able to see my threat compared to theirs? |
| 21:42.46 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: good post on KTM comments |
| 21:42.50 | Trancer | that's for you to decide, is it not? :) |
| 21:42.51 | Mech0z_ | If I remember correctly it receives the KTM data |
| 21:42.54 | deltron | Mech0z_: I don't run KLH Threat Meter at all |
| 21:43.02 | ckknight | Mech0z_: you'd still see theirs, they won't see yours. |
| 21:43.03 | Mech0z_ | Well I know |
| 21:43.05 | Nebucadnezar | Can someone tell me what is causing the following error: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2598 Attempt to call method 'AddMessage' (a nil value) |
| 21:43.06 | Mech0z_ | true |
| 21:43.12 | Mech0z_ | so I screw them :p |
| 21:43.15 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: Blizzard's crappy code |
| 21:43.24 | Nebucadnezar | I just ran Ace Updater and I am now getting this error |
| 21:43.44 | ckknight | or something messing with ChatFrame references |
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| 21:43.52 | Mech0z_ | I need my FPS |
| 21:44.20 | Nebucadnezar | ckknight: Did you mention that you use Prat? |
| 21:44.26 | NeoTron | Mech0z_: if you're not a tank you don't need to keep KTM for compatibility |
| 21:44.31 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: I do |
| 21:44.36 | Mech0z_ | Iam a hunter :o |
| 21:44.40 | NeoTron | then no |
| 21:44.42 | Mech0z_ | just need to see when I need to FD |
| 21:44.51 | NeoTron | then go with just omen |
| 21:45.02 | Nebucadnezar | ckknight: I am trying to setup different chat windows. One for general crap, one for guild, raid, party, etc.. |
| 21:45.06 | Antiarc|Work | ThreatToKLH hasn't been tested |
| 21:45.12 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle just drycoded and committed it |
| 21:45.13 | Antiarc|Work | FYI |
| 21:45.14 | Antiarc|Work | :P |
| 21:45.18 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: wait it exists? :P |
| 21:45.19 | NeoTron | heh |
| 21:45.19 | Nebucadnezar | ckknight: I didn't see a way to do that with Prat. |
| 21:45.33 | ckknight | do what? |
| 21:45.41 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:45.43 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:45.50 | ckknight | right-click on the chat frame tab |
| 21:45.52 | Nebucadnezar | ckknight: Using Whisper Enhanced right now, but it seems like crap! Great idea, bad implementation |
| 21:45.54 | ckknight | create a new window |
| 21:45.56 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: to be right, it runs without spewing error, not stricly drycoded :p |
| 21:45.57 | sbu | Adirelle: seperate addon? |
| 21:46.13 | Nebucadnezar | Tried that. Couldn't get the chats to move to new windows. |
| 21:46.14 | Adirelle | sbu: yep |
| 21:46.37 | ckknight | I has an idea! |
| 21:46.42 | Nebucadnezar | Turned them off in the General tab, and on in the new ones. NADA! |
| 21:46.43 | ckknight | basically, only tanks matter |
| 21:46.45 | Adirelle | sbu: embeds threat (unless you use standalone libs), no GUI, no way to disable |
| 21:47.19 | ckknight | so you should send out KTM data if: Someone in the group has KTM and doesn't have Threat-1.0 and if you're a Warrior/Paladin/Druid |
| 21:47.56 | Chompers | or on the main tank list? |
| 21:48.10 | Chompers | hunter 'tanks' on maulgar etc |
| 21:48.19 | sbu | ckknight: ack |
| 21:48.23 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: and if you're not running ktm itself |
| 21:48.27 | ckknight | right. |
| 21:48.29 | Adirelle | ckknight: first is tested, be only on sending |
| 21:49.08 | ckknight | Adirelle: Threat-1.0 already has checks for if a party member is using KTM (and not Threat-1.0), and if you aren't running KTM yourself |
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| 21:49.19 | Adirelle | Adirelle: yep, that's what I rely on |
| 21:49.25 | Adirelle | d'oh |
| 21:49.31 | Adirelle | ckknight: yep, that's what I rely on |
| 21:49.58 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:50.04 | Adirelle | ckknight: but I think I could disable all this before trying to send |
| 21:50.17 | ckknight | if the time comes, I think maybe it could be an idea to stick the ability in Threat-1.0 itself |
| 21:50.23 | ckknight | Adirelle: get it working first |
| 21:50.28 | Adirelle | though KTMToThreat is 150 lines long for now |
| 21:50.36 | ckknight | I expected as much |
| 21:50.40 | hyperChipmunk | antiarc is doing that |
| 21:50.43 | hyperChipmunk | already |
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| 21:51.31 | Antiarc|Work | I plan to put it in Threat itself with an off switch, eventually |
| 21:51.38 | Adirelle | ironcally, I'm not the better people to test it, 'coz I don't raid much (say never) and my guild doesn't use any threatmeter anyway |
| 21:52.37 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I think it will cause lots of debates |
| 21:53.19 | Antiarc|Work | I'm sure it will |
| 21:53.32 | NeoTron | why would it? |
| 21:53.39 | NeoTron | makes sense to maitnain compatibility |
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| 21:56.07 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: btw, in the current implementation, could you prevent KTM data to override Threat one, according to the code, it is what should happen |
| 21:57.04 | ckknight | Adirelle: if you get KTM code from a user that has Threat-1.0, it's ignored right away |
| 21:57.38 | Adirelle | ckknight: I may have overlooked it then, didn't see where it was dropped |
| 21:58.01 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: hmm make it default off |
| 21:58.18 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Look in the KTM receive method |
| 21:58.31 | Antiarc|Work | It opts out early if Threat has received a Threat revision from that party member |
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| 21:59.19 | Peoii | Antiarc|Work: Curiousity question, when Omen is "locked", could ya hide the corner grab graphic? (It's a stylistic thing for me, but yea, it'd make more sense) |
| 22:00.46 | Imp4kT | or an option to hide when looked : |
| 22:00.47 | Imp4kT | :] |
| 22:00.58 | Trancer | Hmm.. wonder if there any addon that "optimize" your inventory |
| 22:01.07 | Trancer | like, build maximum stacks of whatever you have in your bags |
| 22:01.11 | ckknight | MrPlow |
| 22:01.18 | chutwig | you mean like yelling "why the fuck does a paladin have gorehowl?!" and automatically vendoring it |
| 22:01.23 | Imp4kT | arkinventory does that if you click the button L |
| 22:01.27 | Imp4kT | *:] |
| 22:01.40 | Trancer | ah so that's what mrplow does |
| 22:01.46 | Recluse | arkinventory has one built in, so does mrplow |
| 22:01.46 | Antiarc|Work | Peoii: Makes sense to me |
| 22:01.48 | Trancer | the description was a bit.. vague |
| 22:02.19 | Trancer | ta :) |
| 22:03.06 | Arrowmaster | most of our gorehowls have gone to paladins |
| 22:03.24 | chutwig | i wanted a gorehowl for mine but every time i take him to kara prince drops the stupid bow >:o |
| 22:04.13 | Arrowmaster | we've only gotten 2 bows |
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| 22:05.35 | grennon | gorehowl is RP epix |
| 22:05.57 | kebinusan | I think all of our warriors and paladins have gorehowls now |
| 22:06.11 | kebinusan | we've had one mindblade drop in four months? |
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| 22:06.35 | Trancer | woohoo mrplow ROCKS, thanks |
| 22:07.08 | chutwig | i wish now that blood elf had been a choice when i made my paladin |
| 22:07.18 | chutwig | they don't know how easy they've got it |
| 22:07.44 | Primer | Anyone know if it's possible to switch chat windows in WoW with the keyboard? |
| 22:07.54 | Dustwhisper | i've been wondering the same thing |
| 22:08.01 | Dustwhisper | i'd love to be able to tab between windows |
| 22:08.06 | Primer | indeed |
| 22:08.13 | Primer | it'd be very convenient |
| 22:08.21 | Dustwhisper | and also as said yesterday, have like a tab based panels where you can put addons on the panel and switch between panels and it would switch and show diff addons |
| 22:08.34 | anholt | Several of our raid members are experimenting with Omen. Are #1068, #1069 suitable bug reports, or is there better information I should be collecting to submit useful reports? |
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| 22:09.34 | Mikk | Trancer: Baggins also has a re-stacker |
| 22:09.35 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: should I continue with ThreatToKTM (TTK) or give it away ? |
| 22:09.51 | Primer | seems my realm just went down... |
| 22:10.12 | Antiarc|Work | anholt: Can you elaborate? |
| 22:10.15 | Antiarc|Work | You mean trac tickets? |
| 22:10.45 | anholt | Antiarc|Work: yeah, trac tickets |
| 22:10.49 | hyperChipmunk | mikk! |
| 22:10.50 | hyperChipmunk | wb |
| 22:10.51 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check 'em out |
| 22:10.56 | Mikk | 'lo =) |
| 22:11.00 | NeoTron | Adirelle: main question I'd wonder about with TTK is if it handles KTM master target setting correctly? |
| 22:11.09 | hyperChipmunk | how was greece? |
| 22:11.14 | Adirelle | NeoTron: yep, cause Threat-1.0 handles it |
| 22:11.46 | Adirelle | NeoTron: I mainly wrote the glue code that Threat-1.0 misses to send data |
| 22:12.19 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: Just great. Except I got a bit too brave on the beach the last day and said "bah fuck sunblock". Bad call :P |
| 22:12.31 | Adirelle | NeoTron: but most of it was laying inactivated in Threat-1.0 |
| 22:12.32 | hyperChipmunk | gg nub |
| 22:12.32 | ckknight | Adirelle: get TTK working, but it'll be consumed later, my guess |
| 22:12.33 | sdouble | at least it was the last day |
| 22:12.48 | Antiarc|Work | anholt: Huh, thanks for the reports. Haven't seen those. Have you ensured that you and your groupmates are up to date? |
| 22:12.58 | Adirelle | ckknight: have the make a call for testing then |
| 22:13.02 | Adirelle | s/the/to/ |
| 22:13.07 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: Incidentally, "nub" was _precisely_ what my gf said to me :> |
| 22:13.24 | NeoTron | Adirelle: ok cool |
| 22:13.50 | NeoTron | Adirelle: I just now realized that the problem I had with master target was when someone forgot to reset it in KTM and thus no data was sent at all |
| 22:14.04 | anholt | Antiarc|Work: I hadn't thought about that, and I'll have to check. Right now, we're a mix of people with KTM (everyone minus one) and people with Omen (people experimenting). Is there an easy way to check versions on folks? |
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| 22:14.23 | anholt | If not, I can probably just bother people to update or post what version they're at. |
| 22:14.31 | Antiarc|Work | anholt: The latest version of Omen includes an option called "Show party revisions" that spits out a list to the chatlogl |
| 22:14.37 | anholt | sweet |
| 22:14.40 | NeoTron | ah cool |
| 22:14.46 | Mikk | But yeah.. nice hotel, great food, cold beer, warm but not too hot ... friendly people working the restaurants & stuff.. couldn't ask for more :> |
| 22:14.47 | NeoTron | can spam that before raids to make ppl go update |
| 22:15.21 | Mikk | Hm, wait, I suppose I'd like for greek prices to go back to where they were 10 years ago but .. ahwell... |
| 22:15.31 | Mikk | ON ANOTHER NOTE though |
| 22:15.48 | Mikk | WTB "AceLoader" with S&D automagic + nice GUI |
| 22:15.57 | Mikk | Officially blessed and stuck in along with the rest of the Ace doco |
| 22:16.35 | Mikk | Supply & Demand is nice. ACP/MCP is nice. A combination of the two along with the "LoadManager:" directive = win. |
| 22:17.03 | Primer | auth down for anyone? |
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| 22:17.19 | ckknight | Mikk: I think there is one out there |
| 22:17.28 | ckknight | Mikk: something gnome |
| 22:17.34 | Kalman| | Forklift? |
| 22:17.34 | Funkeh` | what about forkliftgnokme or whatever its called |
| 22:17.41 | Mikk | Ooh? |
| 22:17.56 | kergoth | forkliftgnome works great but doesnt really have a nice ui, and doesnt do acp like functionality |
| 22:18.03 | kergoth | so it isnt what you want, but perhaps its a starting point to hack on |
| 22:18.14 | kergoth | it does work a fair bit better than s&d as a loadmanager though |
| 22:18.19 | kergoth | and has X-LoadOn-Slash: /foo,/f |
| 22:18.21 | kergoth | which kicks ass |
| 22:18.23 | kergoth | stubby like feature |
| 22:18.24 | Mikk | oh |
| 22:18.41 | Mikk | So, forkliftgnome is basically s&d? |
| 22:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: you were looking for pixel-art projects? |
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| 22:18.50 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: always =) |
| 22:19.36 | kergoth | s&d wasnt reliable as a loadmanager, i expect thats why it was written, and its maintained |
| 22:19.43 | kergoth | thats abuot the only diff |
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| 22:20.20 | hyperChipmunk | how about a BulkMail2 fubar icon; i have a fill-in one currently, but a nifty zooming B or something like a mail service logo would be nice |
| 22:20.22 | Mikk | Ok, rephrase then.. WTB Forkliftgnome + MCP/ACP bastard hybrid |
| 22:20.23 | Adirelle | NeoTron: I mean in Threat ? |
| 22:20.24 | Josh_Borke | mikk: wb. how was your trip? |
| 22:20.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:20.39 | hyperChipmunk | http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2 |
| 22:20.45 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Great. Minus sunburnt shoulders on the last day but ohwell =) |
| 22:21.17 | Josh_Borke | mikk: glad to hear :-) |
| 22:21.24 | Mikk | RULEBASED AUTOSEND!!!!!!1111shifteleven! |
| 22:22.55 | NeoTron | Adirelle: well the issue we had was that someone had set KTM master target to hydross. then trash respawned and as we started clearing not threat was broadcasted from KTM. |
| 22:23.05 | NeoTron | Adirelle: so that's no concern in this case |
| 22:23.16 | hyperChipmunk | i was thinking something sorta like the bridgestone tire B |
| 22:23.35 | hyperChipmunk | right now it's just a package |
| 22:24.10 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: Hmm.. something with gears & envelopes perhaps? |
| 22:24.50 | Ominous | hmm how come my addons which use ace console but not fubar now have a fubar plugin? |
| 22:24.52 | Mikk | I mean... "B" doesn't really tell you what the icon will do =) |
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| 22:25.34 | Xuerian | Tekkub: Yay popcorn! |
| 22:25.43 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: Or something combining a package / envelope + B ? |
| 22:25.51 | Xuerian | Mikk: Welcome back :p |
| 22:25.55 | Mikk | cheers =) |
| 22:25.56 | Xuerian | How was the vacation? |
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| 22:26.19 | hyperChipmunk | well, i was thinking like how most mail services have some simple thingy that looks like it's moving fast as their logo |
| 22:26.27 | hyperChipmunk | but gears and envelopes is good too |
| 22:26.49 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 22:26.51 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 22:26.51 | Xuerian | hyperChipmunk: A cannon firing a mailman? :D |
| 22:27.10 | hyperChipmunk | if you can do it in 16 square pixels! |
| 22:27.15 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:27.30 | hyperChipmunk | actually, i think you get 64 |
| 22:27.39 | hyperChipmunk | well, you get whatever you want |
| 22:27.44 | Mikk | it ends up being around 16 on-screen |
| 22:27.49 | hyperChipmunk | but yea |
| 22:27.55 | Mikk | i usually paint 32 x 32 so it sizes better |
| 22:28.08 | Mikk | sizing 16 -> 14 = barf. sizing 32 -> 14 = better. |
| 22:28.23 | Adirelle | aaah... forgot MD :/ |
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| 22:29.14 | Mikk | kergoth: who should I be poking about forkliftgnome btw? |
| 22:29.28 | Josh_Borke | ckknight obviously. he writes all the best mods! |
| 22:29.37 | Mech0z | holy moly |
| 22:29.38 | kergoth | pretty sure its nymbia's, doublecheck the toc though |
| 22:29.47 | Mikk | kk |
| 22:30.04 | hyperChipmunk | gnomes are usually vhaarr |
| 22:30.05 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Unpossible. He didn't write IgnoreMore. Pure stroke of genious that one. |
| 22:30.07 | Mech0z | installed a free firewall and AV and need to make a system restore to stop my computer from BSOD'ing |
| 22:30.19 | Xuerian | Mech0z: What firewall/av? |
| 22:30.34 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: told our guildbank manager about the bulkmail addons. she's quite excited |
| 22:30.42 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: i stole vhaarr's gnomishnish just this once ;) |
| 22:30.48 | Mech0z | Xuerian the free aol kaspersky av and a firewall I dont remember |
| 22:30.48 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 22:30.50 | Mikk | whee nymbia |
| 22:30.55 | Xuerian | aol |
| 22:30.55 | hyperChipmunk | NeoTron: >8D |
| 22:30.57 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 22:31.04 | Mech0z | might be because I run Vista |
| 22:31.28 | Xuerian | I don't rightly care if kapersky is the highest rated av in actual detection (it is, isn't it?), plastering "AOL" on it makes it crap >_o |
| 22:31.38 | Mikk | nymbia: So, how are you liking that idea? Taking forkliftgnome and slapping a UI on it, basically? |
| 22:31.59 | Xuerian | Actually, WTB rMCP + FG |
| 22:32.01 | Mech0z | I know AOL has a bad reputation but that app was highly rated |
| 22:32.17 | Mech0z | But dont want Avast so dunno what AV to get |
| 22:32.18 | Mikk | What I'm aiming at is that this new beautiful LoadManager: field really should be set as standard in bloody all ace .tocs |
| 22:32.19 | Mech0z | free |
| 22:32.28 | Xuerian | Mech0z: NOD32 + Windows Firewall, if you're behind a router with a firewall |
| 22:32.31 | Mikk | But it's barely being used today |
| 22:32.43 | Xuerian | Though I don't know if nod32 has a vista version, so nevermind. |
| 22:32.48 | sdouble | AVG http://free.grisoft.com if you want a nice free antivirus |
| 22:32.51 | sbu | it has Xuerian |
| 22:32.56 | sbu | works fine with vista |
| 22:32.57 | Mech0z | Xuerian Iam running DMZ... |
| 22:33.02 | Xuerian | sdouble: avg has horrible detection scores :( |
| 22:33.05 | Xuerian | I used to use it =X |
| 22:33.11 | Xuerian | Mech0z: >.o |
| 22:33.31 | Mech0z | which is why I think its time to get firewall / AV :p |
| 22:33.38 | Xuerian | No, really |
| 22:33.40 | Mech0z | never get viruses though... |
| 22:33.40 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 22:33.41 | nymbia | Mikk: hrm.. that could be fun. all forkliftgnome's core would really need tacked on for that would be a good way to report the current status of an addon |
| 22:33.41 | kergoth | Mikk, agreed. down with the stupid blizzard enable/disable addon interface! |
| 22:33.47 | Mech0z | will try nod32 |
| 22:34.01 | *** part/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 22:34.07 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 22:34.09 | Arrowmaster | what would you recomend for free antivirus? |
| 22:34.17 | Keias | AVG |
| 22:34.28 | Funkeh` | nod32 is so cheap ... |
| 22:34.31 | Mikk | kergoth: it IS stupid! |
| 22:34.34 | Xuerian | Avira or Nod32 |
| 22:34.43 | Funkeh` | its like the best anti virus and the cheapest one |
| 22:34.48 | Mikk | I want something where I can say "Load this set of addons for my pallies. Load this set for my storage toons..." |
| 22:34.57 | Mikk | AND i want dynmaic LoD |
| 22:35.10 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: You mean like the default Blizzard per-character addon sets? :P |
| 22:35.12 | Mikk | AND i want to be able to load stuff manually on the fly |
| 22:35.26 | Xuerian | Mikk: As far as the sets, you mean like rMCP? :P |
| 22:35.32 | Mikk | Xuerian: yups |
| 22:35.35 | sbu | Funkeh`: ack |
| 22:35.38 | Xuerian | rMCP = win. |
| 22:35.44 | Xuerian | rophy is <3 |
| 22:35.51 | sbu | nod32 is really worth buying |
| 22:35.58 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: I have multiple storage toons, and half a dozen 60+ |
| 22:36.06 | kergoth | i like being able to load class specific addons only on that class. its a simple thing, but nice |
| 22:36.08 | sbu | you dont feel any system slowdown ;o |
| 22:36.13 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 22:36.18 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: plus play stuff on other people's accs |
| 22:36.26 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: So a bit more powerful than per-character enable/disable please =) |
| 22:36.34 | Funkeh` | i remeber the day of switching from norton to nod32, its like switching from a mini to a ferrari |
| 22:36.53 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: may you exposed something to know if anyone is using KTM and if a particular user uses KTM or Violation ? |
| 22:37.00 | Xuerian | Augh, Norton and McAfee are on my KoS list |
| 22:37.15 | Funkeh` | ye but this was years ago when i knew shit all about pcs ^^ |
| 22:37.34 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: :GetPartyRevisions() should return a readable list of party members |
| 22:37.57 | Antiarc|Work | for k, v in pairs(Threat:GetPartyRevisions()) do if type(v) == "number" then (they're using Threat) end end |
| 22:38.21 | Mikk | Actually, I think what I want is simply rMCP with FG in the bottom. And renamed to AceLoader so people actually realize it exists, so I can load stuff without UI reloads |
| 22:38.30 | Adirelle | btw, dropping all KTM messages from Threat users fuck up master target, only "T" should be ignored IMO |
| 22:38.46 | kergoth | it shouldnt be named aceloader. only parts of ace2 proper should have that prefix nowadays |
| 22:39.04 | kergoth | and its arrogant to emphasize that its ace that way |
| 22:39.10 | kergoth | a more intuitive name would be good though |
| 22:39.19 | Mikk | And have rMCP have an option that says "load dynamically" or something, if there's dynamic LoD params in the toc |
| 22:39.34 | Mikk | kergoth: Mmm yeah I know.. but LoD dynamics are pretty central |
| 22:39.46 | kergoth | still, make it addonloader or something |
| 22:39.46 | hyperChipmunk | rMCP: dyslexic mounties? |
| 22:40.06 | kergoth | i like that forkliftgnome's toc metadata doesnt metnion the name of the addon, its generic, so other loadmanagers could easily use it without confusion |
| 22:40.40 | Xuerian | Mikk: What about talking to rophy about adding support for FG/S&D? He's already added ace2 categories to it |
| 22:40.40 | Mikk | as long as noone extends the format, etcetc =) |
| 22:40.45 | Dotted | [Ammo] ping |
| 22:40.59 | CIA-22 | ow |
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| 22:41.20 | Cyrez | Yay, it worked! ^^ |
| 22:41.32 | Mikk | Xuerian: True.. it wouldn't have to be bundled in one really... |
| 22:41.36 | Mech0z | hmm not fully aced up apparently |
| 22:41.54 | Cyrez | I fixed my script to ignore the "ow" when somebody kicks the bot. |
| 22:41.58 | Adirelle | I hate reconnecting in shatrath |
| 22:42.40 | hyperChipmunk | Cyrez: pwnt |
| 22:42.43 | Mikk | What I'm griping about mostly I think is that I have no bloody idea which **CP to use - they all reference eachtoher in the descriptions... and forkliftgnome means nada to me. |
| 22:42.46 | sdouble | =[ |
| 22:42.48 | Mikk | Ok fine, now I know what to use after talking to everyone here |
| 22:42.51 | sdouble | it hates me |
| 22:42.51 | hyperChipmunk | no <3 |
| 22:42.52 | Mikk | But joe user? |
| 22:42.56 | Mikk | He has no idea |
| 22:42.57 | Cyrez | && ($1 != ow) |
| 22:43.02 | Cyrez | Simple as that, lol. |
| 22:43.16 | Mikk | Which leads me to wanting to improve the situation |
| 22:43.29 | Xuerian | Mikk: You've got a point there. I'd bet most people don't even know S&D/FG exist. Sortof like Kaelten working for Curse ;P |
| 22:43.47 | Mikk | A one-stop-shop called "AceLoader" seemed like a kick ass idea to me. |
| 22:43.55 | ckknight | nah |
| 22:44.02 | Kaelten | hrm? how am I getting dragged into this again? |
| 22:44.04 | Mikk | One that becomes a community thing more than "one guy's addon" |
| 22:44.07 | Xuerian | Kaelten: randomness. |
| 22:44.12 | ckknight | no ^Ace addons |
| 22:44.17 | Kaelten | ~lart Xuerian |
| 22:44.17 | purl | blames Xuerian for all the evil in the world |
| 22:44.23 | Mikk | Like "Hmm.. S&D isn't being maintained.. I'll write a new one" |
| 22:44.24 | kergoth | no offense, but if it gets named AceLoader, i'm forking it |
| 22:44.29 | Xuerian | Kaelten: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/hay-be-nice-emokitteh-is-sensitive.jpg |
| 22:44.42 | Kaelten | Xuerian: seen |
| 22:44.44 | Mikk | well ok... screw that then.. but a nice, clear, understandable name |
| 22:44.57 | Kaelten | I've been having fun shutting people down in the damned ktm thread :s |
| 22:44.59 | Xuerian | Kaelten: Using it in a new context :p |
| 22:45.04 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 22:45.11 | Kaelten | ~lart Xuerian |
| 22:45.11 | purl | flings poo at Xuerian |
| 22:45.21 | Kaelten | Xuerian: you're my knew punching bag, congratz |
| 22:45.46 | Xuerian | Nuuuu! |
| 22:45.57 | Josh_Borke | just doing my part Kael :-0 |
| 22:46.01 | Xuerian | ! http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1181919320674.jpg |
| 22:46.07 | Kaelten | ~thank Josh_Borke |
| 22:46.07 | purl | no worries, Kaelten |
| 22:46.12 | Kaelten | :s |
| 22:46.13 | Josh_Borke | purl, protect me |
| 22:46.14 | purl | ACTION sees a grenade rolling toward josh_borke, and leaps onto it. |
| 22:46.22 | Kaelten | purl, kill Xuerian |
| 22:46.23 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized positrino gun at Xuerian |
| 22:46.35 | Kaelten | purl, protect Xuerian |
| 22:46.35 | purl | ACTION sees a grenade rolling toward Xuerian, and leaps onto it. |
| 22:46.39 | Industrial | Xuerian is a girl? |
| 22:46.44 | Industrial | (xD) |
| 22:46.52 | Kaelten | :P |
| 22:47.02 | Mikk | SOOOOOO |
| 22:47.04 | Mikk | Anyway |
| 22:47.07 | Industrial | hahah |
| 22:47.07 | Xuerian | NEVAR |
| 22:47.24 | Mikk | We all thinking that it'd be a good idea for rophy & nymbia to hop into bed and let the rest of us in? =) |
| 22:47.30 | Xuerian | im in ur channl, derailin ur topic >.< |
| 22:47.47 | Kaelten | purl, derail Xuerian |
| 22:47.48 | Xuerian | .... I'll get the camera? |
| 22:47.52 | ckknight | Xuerian: the emokitteh is my new avatar on wowace |
| 22:47.53 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: ping ? |
| 22:47.57 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 22:48.02 | Xuerian | ckknight: hahaha |
| 22:48.11 | Antiarc|Work | emokitteh is nice, but my avatar is better. |
| 22:48.12 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2241;type=avatar |
| 22:48.18 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: what about : <Adirelle> btw, dropping all KTM messages from Threat users fuck up master target, only "T" should be ignored IMO |
| 22:48.20 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, i looked over from anally retagging my music library, i don't even -want- to know what you people are talking about. |
| 22:48.21 | ckknight | Xuerian: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5848.920 |
| 22:48.35 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Ooh, right. |
| 22:48.37 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 22:48.47 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: It's the #wowace version of /b/ |
| 22:49.03 | *** part/#wowace Nebucadnezar (n=Nebucadn@66.45.173.242) |
| 22:49.11 | Xuerian | ckknight: Awesome. |
| 22:49.42 | Adirelle | but as I override it in KKT, that will become tricky to handle |
| 22:49.51 | Mikk | I'm liking "AddonLoader" myself... It'll end up early in the lists =) |
| 22:49.56 | nymbia | Mikk: hawt |
| 22:50.07 | ckknight | Adirelle: TTK |
| 22:50.08 | Antiarc|Work | So I'm pretty sure I ended up borking pet skills somewhere along the line |
| 22:50.16 | Adirelle | ckknight: whatever :p |
| 22:50.17 | nymbia | Mikk: i mean the hopping into bed part ;) |
| 22:50.20 | AKX | Hah. Antiarc|Work: 22500 textures and my überoptimized code works ;) |
| 22:50.21 | Mikk | =) |
| 22:50.29 | Antiarc|Work | :D |
| 22:50.34 | kergoth | it doesnt seem like growl is doing what it should at times, even not using my boar i can end up a ways over the aggro bar and not pull aggro off the pet |
| 22:50.35 | NeoTron | Mikk: so how would be be different from, say, ACP? |
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| 22:51.06 | kergoth | NeoTron, he wants an addon like acp/mcp but that also includes fucntionality to control load rules for LoD addons like S&D/ForkliftGnome |
| 22:51.13 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: oh btw I got some error in threat when I did disengage on my hunter. I'll try to reproduce it tonight |
| 22:51.30 | NeoTron | kergoth: ah |
| 22:51.38 | NeoTron | so some sort of dynamic addon loader based on rules |
| 22:51.41 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: I got one of those last night but couldn't reproduce it |
| 22:51.51 | Mikk | NeoTron: PLUS manual config |
| 22:51.55 | NeoTron | like a generic version of "auctioneer loading when you open the AH"? |
| 22:52.09 | Mikk | NeoTron: That's what s&d/forkliftgnome already does |
| 22:52.14 | NeoTron | ah |
| 22:52.15 | kergoth | NeoTron, S&D and ForkliftGnomea lready give you that |
| 22:52.17 | NeoTron | never tried those |
| 22:52.18 | kergoth | via toc metadata |
| 22:52.25 | Mikk | And the fact that you don't know it proves that their names suck balls |
| 22:52.31 | NeoTron | ah but you can't set the rules up yourseklf |
| 22:52.37 | Mikk | NeoTron: No, you can't |
| 22:52.41 | kergoth | hm? |
| 22:52.46 | Mikk | A combination of these would be able to |
| 22:52.53 | kergoth | forkliftgnome and S&D both let you specify load overrides |
| 22:53.09 | NeoTron | and yes the names aren't very good :P |
| 22:53.13 | kergoth | and i know fg provides the ability to inline a stub of code in one of the fields to be completely custom instead of one of the presupplied mechanisms |
| 22:53.52 | Mikk | Yeah.. and then combine this with per-char/class etc set loading |
| 22:53.54 | Kaelten | hrm are we about to see a rash of loader addons? |
| 22:53.58 | *** part/#wowace Industrial (n=tom@a80-100-243-86.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 22:54.08 | Mikk | And then try to make it user friendly |
| 22:54.09 | Kaelten | I know that I'm debating writing one since I was going to write something that had related functionality anyway |
| 22:54.11 | NeoTron | maybe we need an addon loader loader addon? |
| 22:54.20 | Kaelten | ~lart NeoTron |
| 22:54.20 | purl | flings poo at NeoTron |
| 22:54.21 | Xuerian | NeoTron: GENIUS! |
| 22:54.27 | Kaelten | ~lart Xuerian |
| 22:54.27 | purl | flings poo at Xuerian |
| 22:54.29 | nymbia | rofl |
| 22:54.31 | packetlss | kergoth: if i remember correctly growl receives a threat bonus based on the hunters AP |
| 22:54.32 | Adirelle | I think we won't see the r40000 log message |
| 22:54.38 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 22:54.46 | kergoth | packetlss, threat should be accounting for that according to antiarc, so something else is up |
| 22:54.55 | Kaelten | Xuerian: lmao |
| 22:55.00 | Antiarc|Work | It should be, but I noticed Growl not registering at all last night |
| 22:55.04 | Antiarc|Work | So I think I borked something |
| 22:55.05 | NeoTron | Xuerian: hehe |
| 22:55.06 | Mikk | Kaelten: I was hoping that we could take all the stuff already known to work and create the one-stop-shope solution. The REASON why I think that's needed, is because all the addons need to list LoadManagers |
| 22:55.16 | kergoth | Mikk, shouldnt be too bad, just include load rule override in the "profile" you can save/load, and let you specify a default profile to be loaded on login on a per char basis |
| 22:55.22 | packetlss | kergoth: ok, didnt know threat supported that |
| 22:55.25 | Mikk | Then just iterate over every damn mod in the SVN and set "LoadManager: OurLoadManagerName" |
| 22:55.31 | AKX | Antiarc|Sleep, should I try 200*200? ;D |
| 22:55.37 | Dotted | someone should make a mod called Suicide and commit it to the SVN |
| 22:55.41 | Kaelten | Mikk: I have an idea for an utility addon that this could fit well into |
| 22:55.45 | NeoTron | woudl be nice to, for example, only load experiencefu for characters < level 70 |
| 22:55.47 | AKX | * Antiarc|Work, heh. |
| 22:55.53 | Antiarc|Work | AKX: Heh, can't hurt to try |
| 22:56.00 | AKX | ... Yes, it can. ;P |
| 22:56.05 | Adirelle | packetlss: AP scaling of growl is in threat, it should work unless Antiarc|Work actually borked it |
| 22:56.22 | Mikk | Kaelten: oho? |
| 22:56.25 | Antiarc|Work | But misdirection works! :V |
| 22:56.27 | Antiarc|Work | also, brb |
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| 22:56.55 | Xuerian | AKX: What voodoo are you up to? |
| 22:57.00 | AKX | HeatMap. |
| 22:57.06 | AKX | Or, Cartographer_HeatMap, that is. |
| 22:57.14 | AKX | Tracks your movement around zones. |
| 22:57.20 | AKX | Should be nifty for gatherers. |
| 22:57.32 | Xuerian | Oo. |
| 22:57.38 | AKX | ... OK, 200*200 tracking points was a Bad Idea. |
| 22:57.44 | Xuerian | Like... thermal...imaging... for... THE MAP! |
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| 22:58.41 | Adirelle | damn, the goblin transported hasn't any failure, that's not funny |
| 22:58.45 | Kaelten | Mikk: ya, its still in the idea stage, but I got inspired by one of Rowne's old addons, |
| 22:59.50 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc|Work (n=cheald@208.187.119.42) |
| 22:59.57 | Mikk | AKX: 50x50 should be enuf |
| 23:00.02 | AKX | Mikk, that's the default. |
| 23:00.07 | Mikk | =) |
| 23:00.15 | Mikk | Kaelten: shoot? |
| 23:01.07 | Mikk | rophy: ping |
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| 23:06.39 | AKX | Hum |
| 23:06.51 | AKX | It seems I also wrote a multi-point RGBA gradient evaluator for HeatMap. |
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| 23:07.51 | nymbia | AKX: gimme |
| 23:08.03 | AKX | I'm committing soon. |
| 23:08.07 | nymbia | nice :D |
| 23:08.26 | Xuerian | Kaelten: Cliffhanger ending of the year 0/10 |
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| 23:09.16 | Saint-N | old folks act like total noobs |
| 23:09.30 | Saint-N | get off our net you block the tubes |
| 23:11.15 | Adirelle | pet threat is indeed borked* |
| 23:12.01 | Antiarc|Work | Hoorjay! I broked it! |
| 23:12.17 | Kaelten | Xuerian: hrm? |
| 23:12.45 | Xuerian | [18:54] @Kaelten: Mikk: I have an idea for an utility addon that this could fit well into -> [18:57] @Kaelten: Mikk: ya, its still in the idea stage, but I got inspired by one of Rowne's old addons,-> zomg nothing :( |
| 23:12.54 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 23:12.55 | Kaelten | :P |
| 23:13.09 | Xuerian | tard >.< |
| 23:16.06 | Kaelten | let me figure it out first then I'll talk about it :P |
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| 23:17.34 | ckknight | Kaelten: I miss CIA :-( |
| 23:17.49 | ckknight | DogTag-1.0 - added Alt, Ctrl, and Shift tags |
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| 23:18.42 | Diao | what happened to it |
| 23:18.46 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@srbk-590f926a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 23:18.53 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 23:18.56 | Mikk | dno? |
| 23:19.18 | Ominous | well he could be re-enabled now if hes back couldnt he? |
| 23:20.46 | Mikk | Hmmm... Is "Addon Ace" ok as a name? =) |
| 23:20.50 | Kaelten | ya if he's back in action I can renable him |
| 23:20.58 | Diao | so the bosswhisperer thing |
| 23:21.01 | Diao | does it autoreply? |
| 23:21.05 | Diao | or just do DnD |
| 23:22.08 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: pet skill scaling actually work, but anything ain't added |
| 23:22.20 | Antiarc|Work | Bizarre. Wonder why. |
| 23:22.25 | Galka______ | Antiarc|, what was the script command to check the Thread version of all people using it? |
| 23:22.35 | Gagorian | CIA-22: I really mean it! |
| 23:22.38 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 23:22.47 | Antiarc|Work | Galka: There's a menu open in Omen now, or you can /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):GetPartyRevisions() |
| 23:22.48 | Antiarc|Work | I think |
| 23:22.51 | Galka | Threat* |
| 23:22.56 | Galka | Thank you Antiarc |
| 23:23.10 | Recluse | ok so the other day i think i was half asleep and asked about class specific options for RatingBuster, but I was not thinking of the right addon. I did discover some wonderful options for RB though. |
| 23:23.32 | Thorgard^2 | Recluse, wonderful options? |
| 23:23.36 | Recluse | It's EQCompare that won't show all the stats for my class |
| 23:23.50 | Mikk | WTB critrate for druids |
| 23:23.57 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:24.06 | kergoth | wtb mendeleev features to 1) show specific professions, so i can always see jc on all my chars, along with what i can craft, and 2) quickly search for recipes that something is used in, regardless of whether i'm currently viewing those professions in the tooltip |
| 23:24.09 | Recluse | Thorgard: It had a window that lets you turn on and off stuff in RB |
| 23:24.09 | kergoth | then i could drop tsi :P |
| 23:24.14 | Gagorian | WTS Punkie to gypsies |
| 23:24.35 | Mikk | Recluse: omg? |
| 23:24.56 | Recluse | but EQCompare is the one that was bugging me. When I compare gear for my shaman it only shows spell stats and nothing about melee ones |
| 23:24.57 | Thorgard^2 | Recluse, oh, cool. Didn't know there was a options window for it. ;P |
| 23:25.25 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work, could you make the color and tooltip options hide for omens fubar as they arnt needed atm |
| 23:26.34 | Recluse | As enhancement, my shaman has no use for "if you put this on, you get +0.35% spell crit" lol |
| 23:26.46 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: Not sure I understand? |
| 23:27.28 | Wixi | any ferals here? |
| 23:27.55 | Xuerian | rawr |
| 23:28.07 | Recluse | Thorgard: I think it's /rb optionswin or something like that |
| 23:28.16 | Thorgard^2 | Recluse, yeah, just looked. |
| 23:28.29 | Thorgard^2 | <- Resto Shaman. |
| 23:29.12 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work, the detach tooltip, show colored text options etc |
| 23:29.17 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, right |
| 23:29.24 | NeoTron | is there a way to make EQCompare to trigger only with a modifier key held donw? |
| 23:29.24 | Antiarc|Work | Not sure how to repress those but I'll check into 'em |
| 23:29.32 | NeoTron | I seem to completely fail to find any options for it |
| 23:29.36 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work, ill get the option for u |
| 23:29.53 | Ominous | its easy to do :) |
| 23:29.59 | Recluse | Anyhow, EQCompare works great for all the class/specs I've played so far, and I love it as is... But enhancement shamans get nothing out of it is all. Maybe there's something I can twiddle to get it to do so, but no clue what. ^^ |
| 23:30.33 | NeoTron | Recluse: isn't eqcompare the thing that just opens a window with your current item when you mouse over some other item? |
| 23:30.35 | Antiarc|Work | Anyone know how you set the outlining on a font programatically? |
| 23:31.12 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Why would you want that instead of just using the built in, if you want it on modifier? |
| 23:31.30 | Xuerian | Wixi: I played a feral, what's up? |
| 23:31.39 | Recluse | NeoTron: It adds a few lines at the bottom of item tooltips along with your current item, telling you how much you gain or lose (AP, mana, HP, crit, etc etc) if you were to equip it instead of what you have on now |
| 23:31.55 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I came to the conclusion that pet skill threat is ignored by self:AddTargetThreat(math.floor(threat+0.5) * self:threatMods()) |
| 23:32.05 | NeoTron | Recluse: err. I thought that was ratingsbuster? :P |
| 23:32.19 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: threat == 0 ? |
| 23:32.28 | Antiarc|Work | Oooh, it might be the transactioning |
| 23:32.30 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check it out |
| 23:32.31 | NeoTron | I swear I changed ratingbuster config to make it add fire/shadow dmg as separate entries |
| 23:32.40 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work, Omen.hasNoColor = true, Omen.cannotDetachTooltip = true |
| 23:32.53 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 23:33.10 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: no, checked it all, threat = right value, threatmods = 1 |
| 23:33.19 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Probably the transactioning then |
| 23:33.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'll get it figured out |
| 23:33.34 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: dunno, didn't looked at transactioning |
| 23:33.40 | Antiarc|Work | So, anyone know how to set font outline programatically? |
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| 23:33.53 | Recluse | NeoTron: RatingBuster just adds the conversion for that one item. Like "Item X, +12 agi (0.3%crit)" |
| 23:34.01 | Adirelle | btw, I don't even know why transctioning is needed by Threat |
| 23:34.40 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Things like Sunder - past 5 stacks, there's no "ok, this landed" event or message |
| 23:34.46 | Antiarc|Work | There are only messages if it doesn't land |
| 23:34.47 | Recluse | NeoTron: EQCompare does like "Your Item: 10 agi" "Item in AH/Trade/etc: 12 agi (+2 agi, 0.05%crit)" |
| 23:34.56 | Recluse | fake numbers, but hope that illustrates it lol |
| 23:35.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: er, rating buster also gives you a stat summary of an item at the bottom of the tooltip, and can compare that to the currently equipped item. |
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| 23:36.02 | Recluse | NightHawk: I haven't found that option... I suppose I should hunt deeper if it can compare. |
| 23:36.30 | NeoTron | I find that using niagara (sp?) makes such hunting a lot nicer |
| 23:36.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Make sure your using a recent version, but its under stat summary. And yeah, Niagara is nice, though i believe RB embeds waterfall now too. |
| 23:37.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: and it allows you to configure what stats are shown/compared in the summary, so you dont see stats you dont care about. |
| 23:38.02 | Recluse | NightHawk: Which is nice since my shaman has little use for INT lol |
| 23:39.09 | NeoTron | even enhance needs int :P |
| 23:39.17 | NightHawkTheSane | no it doesn't :P |
| 23:39.23 | NightHawkTheSane | it just needs AP for SR. |
| 23:40.00 | sbu | hmm ckknight - dogtag ctrl/alt modifier? |
| 23:40.05 | ckknight | yep. |
| 23:40.28 | ckknight | e.g. [Shift?Health!MissingHealth] |
| 23:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | neat. |
| 23:40.36 | ckknight | actually it'd be |
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| 23:40.42 | ckknight | [Shift?CurHP!MissingHP] |
| 23:40.43 | ckknight | that's it |
| 23:40.54 | sbu | ah so you press shift to see other values? |
| 23:41.12 | ckknight | right. |
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| 23:41.26 | ckknight | so it's MissingHP by default |
| 23:41.34 | ckknight | and when you press shift, it switches to CurHP on the fly |
| 23:41.41 | ckknight | and when you release, back to MissingHP |
| 23:41.45 | Diao | o_o |
| 23:42.41 | Xuerian | BBC is coming to america? Where do I sign up >.> |
| 23:42.53 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:43.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: psh, you can already get the bbc online :P |
| 23:43.22 | break19 | ok.. is classtimers f'd up, or acelocale?? i'm up to over 2k errors after bein logged in for 5mins |
| 23:43.27 | Recluse | NightHawk: This Stat Composite section maybe? |
| 23:43.33 | ckknight | what's the first error, break19? |
| 23:43.35 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, but I think it's cool anyway :p |
| 23:44.05 | break19 | [2007/06/15 18:29:10-965-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-39907 (Ace2):479: AceLocale(ClassTimer): Translation "%dm" does not exist. |
| 23:44.08 | break19 | ClassTimer\ClassTimer.lua:47: in main chunk |
| 23:44.14 | break19 | there's 89 total different ones... |
| 23:44.18 | ckknight | that's ClassTimer's issue |
| 23:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: uh, play around and check? It's either that or something close to it. |
| 23:44.37 | dodgizzla | Is the Yata author around? Got some suggestions :D |
| 23:44.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: I know there were two different sections, one for base stats (str, agi, etc) and one for the more specific stats (AP, mana, crit, hit, spellcrit, etc) |
| 23:45.11 | anholt | Antiarc|Work: ok, I closed the one ticket of mine which was due to the other guy having only KTM, but in the other one the paladin did have Threat installed. |
| 23:45.13 | Recluse | NightHawk: yeah, i think i got it now. that's what i was looking for. ty |
| 23:45.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: np |
| 23:45.31 | break19 | ckknight: looks like he tried to use acelocale to translate the entire setup menu... |
| 23:45.45 | ckknight | which is a good idea. |
| 23:46.05 | ckknight | if you provide proper translations, that is |
| 23:46.15 | Ominous | break19: srug, i dont get that, |
| 23:46.30 | break19 | Ominous: it appears that the no-ext version doesnt include your Locale folder |
| 23:46.39 | Ominous | i use no -ext |
| 23:46.55 | Antiarc|Work | anholt: Make sure the paladin was running a recent version; I've done a lot of work in that area recently |
| 23:47.16 | Ominous | break19: update it thats an old version anyway |
| 23:47.17 | anholt | Antiarc|Sleep: he said as of Tuesday at the oldest. |
| 23:47.27 | break19 | Ominous: I did like 10s ago |
| 23:47.32 | Ominous | odd |
| 23:47.39 | break19 | and the zip I just downloaded manually has no locales folder |
| 23:47.52 | break19 | I can screenshot if you'd like :) |
| 23:48.09 | break19 | and its 40099 that i just got.... |
| 23:48.16 | Antiarc|Work | anholt: That's old enough to matter :) |
| 23:48.28 | anholt | Antiarc|Work: hah, ok. |
| 23:48.39 | Antiarc|Work | I'll keep an eye out for it, but try to replicate with an updated copy, if you can |
| 23:48.40 | Ominous | ok, oh that must be the ace locale revision then |
| 23:48.46 | Ominous | break19: what rev |
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| 23:49.10 | anholt | Antiarc|Work: well, we'll see next Thursday (or Tuesday if we're fast enough). |
| 23:49.21 | break19 | Ominous: Ace2 r39907 |
| 23:49.29 | Antiarc|Work | There have been 59 commits since Tuesday. :) |
| 23:49.45 | Ominous | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClassTimer/Locales/ |
| 23:50.25 | break19 | Ominous: ok.. so you made the classtimer locales a separate addon? |
| 23:50.29 | Ominous | no |
| 23:50.47 | Ominous | thats just a folder inside classtimer |
| 23:50.49 | Ominous | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClassTimer/ |
| 23:51.16 | break19 | that folder isnt being included in the zip, and neither is Bars |
| 23:51.27 | break19 | ok, I just lied |
| 23:51.28 | break19 | bars is |
| 23:51.55 | Ominous | well its nothing todo with me as its there |
| 23:52.10 | anholt | Antiarc|Work: yeah, getting messages to update during raid, after having updated during invites, was fun. We're definitely all excited about it. |
| 23:52.20 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh, good :) |
| 23:52.34 | shieldb | my guild hates me for those messages |
| 23:52.43 | Antiarc|Work | I'm goin' home now! |
| 23:52.46 | Antiarc|Work | Laters, folks. |
| 23:52.53 | break19 | Ominous: http://ace.pastey.net/56919 - thats a ls -l of my just-downloaded ClassTimer... |
| 23:52.58 | shieldb | I update from the SVN every time I see it kick in IRC and then /rl during raids |
| 23:52.58 | *** part/#wowace Antiarc|Work (n=cheald@208.187.119.42) |
| 23:53.04 | shieldb | so everyone is always showing as out of date |
| 23:53.09 | Ominous | they are there when i download it |
| 23:53.22 | Ominous | so get it again |
| 23:53.41 | break19 | Ominous: but I got an antsy warlock in the other room wantin to hit 50 and get her felguard, so. bbl |
| 23:53.49 | Kaelten | stop kicking the poor bot |
| 23:54.05 | Kaelten | oh nvm I was scrolled back |
| 23:54.19 | Kaelten | but cia should be back on |
| 23:54.29 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 23:54.36 | NeoTron | Ominous: might be a disappointment |
| 23:54.38 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 23:54.42 | Kaelten | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
| 23:54.42 | purl | whips out a sword and chops hyperChipmunk in half |
| 23:54.44 | NeoTron | felguard at level 50 is quite underwhelming :P |
| 23:54.45 | Ominous | NeoTron, wha? |
| 23:55.06 | NeoTron | it's not good right when you get it due to missing skills and insufficient talents to buff him |
| 23:55.10 | NeoTron | relatively speaking |
| 23:55.10 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r40125 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 6 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Dev branch: nil error fix |
| 23:55.20 | Adirelle | hurray for cia-22 |
| 23:55.45 | break19 | Ominous: weird. |
| 23:55.55 | Ominous | NeoTron, im not getting one |
| 23:55.58 | break19 | after redownloading for a 3rd time, the folder is there |
| 23:56.09 | break19 | but bbiab |
| 23:56.17 | NeoTron | Ominous: you said some warlock in the other room was |
| 23:56.24 | Ominous | nono break19 |
| 23:56.32 | NeoTron | ooh I misread |
| 23:56.38 | NeoTron | ok break19 that comment was for you :P |
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| 23:57.34 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40126 10ThreatToKTM/libs/: |
| 23:57.34 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 23:57.34 | CIA-22 | - fixed missing external. |
| 23:57.45 | NeoTron | break19: specifically no intercept really blows :P |
| 23:59.55 | mikma | Adirelle: is that fully working? :) |
