| 00:00.24 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: i know why |
| 00:00.42 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: i have no libs\ on front of them so no libs are loading |
| 00:00.46 | Funkeh` | i guess you use embeds? |
| 00:00.50 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: what the hell |
| 00:00.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes. |
| 00:00.55 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: Why did you change to embeds.xml? |
| 00:01.09 | Funkeh` | speed up loading when using wau |
| 00:01.16 | Mellow_ | i used mc and other editors for a long time, after i had to use vim, if you keep the shortcuts in your mind, you have your favorite editor :o) |
| 00:01.21 | vhaarr | By how much? |
| 00:01.30 | Ordog | how would you call a bunch of names describing unique identities owned by the same person? can you call that a composite? |
| 00:01.45 | Funkeh` | 2 seconds or something |
| 00:02.21 | Wobwork | Descriptors? |
| 00:02.32 | Wobwork | Identifiers? |
| 00:02.41 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39778 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 00:02.41 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 00:02.41 | CIA-22 | - BMI UI refreshes correctly when the user causes changes to the inbox via the default inbox UI |
| 00:02.41 | CIA-22 | - Slightly adjusted the way Take All works to allow more consistent event handling. Remote possibility that it will fix the BeanCounter conflict, but if it doesn't, it will at least make the issue easier to track down. |
| 00:02.53 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39779 10BigWigs/embeds.xml: BigWigs: fix embeds.xml :/ |
| 00:03.03 | hyperChipmunk | holdings |
| 00:03.04 | Funkeh` | try that ZealotOnAStick |
| 00:03.22 | hyperChipmunk | aliases |
| 00:03.35 | hyperChipmunk | fake IDs |
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| 00:03.46 | Ordog | ya aliases might fit :) |
| 00:03.49 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll try it after raid. |
| 00:04.45 | Toufas | anyone else having problems with atlasloot not displaying some categories properly? |
| 00:04.47 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39780 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/ (Attumen.lua Nightbane.lua): Threat-1.0: Karazhan module conversion fixes. |
| 00:06.05 | Ordog | otherwise id like to describe the "thing" that holds the names not the names themselves ... |
| 00:06.41 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39781 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Magtheridon/Magtheridon.lua: Threat-1.0: Magtheridon encoding fixes. |
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| 00:10.21 | cladhaire | Omen is not showing my threat |
| 00:10.30 | kenlyric | you don' have any. |
| 00:10.38 | cladhaire | this is a lie. |
| 00:11.16 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39782 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/ (Hydross.lua Leotheras.lua Morogrim.lua): Threat-1.0: SSC encoding fixes |
| 00:11.55 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39783 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TheEye/VoidReaver.lua: Threat-1.0: Void Reaver encoding fix. Should complete all fixes, need people to test, especially frFR and koKR. |
| 00:12.28 | Funkeh` | lol cladhaire |
| 00:13.16 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously, I think I'm encoding-retarded or something |
| 00:13.22 | Antiarc|Work | Because I'm pretty sure it's still borked. |
| 00:14.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39784 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - for the version checker thing, if an addon isn't loaded but exists, put (Off) at the end. |
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| 00:15.46 | Funkeh` | ty |
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| 00:20.45 | Roartindon | hmm.. how do you read private messages left for you? |
| 00:20.55 | Roartindon | purl whispered me when I logged on |
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| 00:22.31 | hyperChipmunk | botmail read |
| 00:23.08 | Roartindon | oh ta |
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| 00:25.01 | ckknight_ | hey rophy |
| 00:25.14 | rophy | hello |
| 00:25.30 | ckknight_ | somebody ping me |
| 00:26.00 | ckknight_ | testing MacIrssi |
| 00:26.00 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight_: no |
| 00:26.06 | ckknight_ | ah dammit |
| 00:26.09 | ckknight_ | try again |
| 00:26.22 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight_: do i look like your irc slave? |
| 00:26.27 | rophy | I love ckknight_ |
| 00:26.31 | ckknight_ | yes? |
| 00:26.34 | ckknight_ | okay, it works |
| 00:26.36 | hyperChipmunk | l2echo |
| 00:26.38 | ckknight_ | hoorah |
| 00:26.45 | hyperChipmunk | ~echo ckknight_ blows |
| 00:26.47 | purl | ckknight_ blows |
| 00:26.47 | ckknight_ | brb |
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| 00:29.08 | Roartindon | ckknight_: ping |
| 00:29.11 | ckknight_ | gah, MacIrssi does not want to change to a black-on-white theme |
| 00:29.11 | Roartindon | working? |
| 00:29.23 | ckknight_ | keeps going to white-on-white if I try |
| 00:29.34 | hyperChipmunk | you don't want black-on-white anyway |
| 00:29.39 | ckknight_ | ...yes I do |
| 00:29.54 | hyperChipmunk | no, that makes your eyes hurt |
| 00:30.00 | ckknight_ | no it doesn't |
| 00:30.03 | Roartindon | ckknight_: Quick question while you're fighting with MacIrssi..... AceEvent registers LOOT_OPENED and sends a comm message every time you try and loot something..... is that intentional, or old debug/testing code? |
| 00:30.05 | hyperChipmunk | yes it does |
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| 00:30.17 | ckknight_ | Roartindon: that's Tekkub's doing |
| 00:30.19 | cs-cam | anyone know of any ace addons that are a bar with all my consumables on it? or would that be a good first project to attempt? :P |
| 00:30.28 | ckknight_ | so that you don't loot in combat or bossfights |
| 00:30.33 | hyperChipmunk | that's tekkub meddling because someone ninjalooted in his raid |
| 00:30.38 | kergoth | cs-cam, autobar or pt3bar |
| 00:30.49 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: So he can see who looted? |
| 00:30.57 | hyperChipmunk | something like that |
| 00:31.05 | cs-cam | kergoth: thank you :) |
| 00:31.14 | hyperChipmunk | somehow he got that bit of code in acecomm; how, i will never know |
| 00:31.54 | Roartindon | hmm.. seems completely unnecessary.. if you have to spy on your raid members, then there are bigger problems :) |
| 00:32.02 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
| 00:32.23 | ckknight | yea... |
| 00:32.36 | ckknight | part of me still wants to add a talent query, though |
| 00:32.38 | Roartindon | only reason I asked ckknight was because svn blame showed the lines were committed by him :) |
| 00:32.52 | ckknight | possible I indented it or something |
| 00:33.24 | hyperChipmunk | or possible you succumbed to tek's seductions |
| 00:34.25 | Roartindon | durcyn: ping |
| 00:35.00 | trh | Roartindon: you could use talent inspection for creating nice groups without having to think about which member had which spec |
| 00:35.15 | ckknight | no, I don't think tek has the ability to seduce |
| 00:35.29 | Roartindon | trh: Even better, put it into Threat-1.0 |
| 00:35.43 | Roartindon | In the future, you can calculate everyone's threat without any comms during battles |
| 00:35.49 | Roartindon | Just a gear/talent inspection whenever it changes |
| 00:35.53 | hyperChipmunk | admit it, you're into that whole bear thing he has going |
| 00:36.08 | durcyn | Roartindon: hi! |
| 00:36.15 | durcyn | combattime seems broken. is it something i ate? |
| 00:36.29 | Roartindon | durcyn: Nope, you need to reset per-character SV DB, or reset your fight data |
| 00:36.45 | Kalman| | Roartindon: Wouldn't work, some threat events don't show up on other people's combatlogs/events in a usable way, iirc. |
| 00:36.56 | Roartindon | Kalman|: Ah, sunder and stuff? |
| 00:37.01 | kebinusan | is the latest threatlib incompatable with previous versions, I see other peoples threat but it seem slike mine isnt displaying properly |
| 00:37.04 | Kalman| | Yeah, Sunder's the usual culprit. |
| 00:37.26 | kebinusan | hmm actually Id stills ee mine... weird I'll try reloading in a bit |
| 00:37.32 | Roartindon | Kalman|: Well, it could still reduce traffic significantly, if you just transmitted the culprit ones.. and it'd give you far quicker results on screen too (no longer throttled updates due to comms) |
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| 00:37.47 | FroMaster | What's a working BigWigs release? |
| 00:38.30 | hyperChipmunk | what is this 'release' of which you speak? |
| 00:38.57 | Kalman| | Roartindon: Of course, offsetting that is the increased amount of parsing you have to do. |
| 00:39.08 | trh | Roartindon: na.. that's not possible because not everyone gets everyone's combat messages ^^ |
| 00:39.53 | Roartindon | Kalman|: True, but I prefer processing to clogging my poor aus lantecy connection |
| 00:40.29 | FroMaster | hyperChipmunk: Sorry. call it Build. I updated to bigwigs 39779 and i get a missing library |
| 00:40.41 | hyperChipmunk | revision =) |
| 00:41.07 | FroMaster | hyperChipmunk: Revision then.. Do you know of a working revision I can revert to? |
| 00:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | do you have an error message? may be better to just fix it |
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| 00:42.22 | FroMaster | Bigwigs\core.lua:209 - Library "AceModuleCore-2.0" does not exist |
| 00:42.39 | FroMaster | And then a bunch right after cuz BigWigs didn't load |
| 00:42.47 | hyperChipmunk | lookin at the log, it looks like Funkeh` started screwing with it at r39730 |
| 00:42.59 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 00:43.03 | hyperChipmunk | er, no, r39768 |
| 00:43.16 | hyperChipmunk | r39730 is the one prior to Funkeh`'s screwin |
| 00:43.28 | Funkeh` | i screw so you don't have to |
| 00:44.00 | Funkeh` | i think i messed up the order |
| 00:44.07 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | you blow dude |
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| 00:45.36 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39785 10BigWigs/embeds.xml: BigWigs: hopefully fix the last embed bugs |
| 00:45.39 | ckknight_ | someone ping me |
| 00:45.47 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight_: ping yourself |
| 00:45.53 | ckknight_ | NO U |
| 00:45.55 | hyperChipmunk | dude, honestly |
| 00:46.01 | hyperChipmunk | ~echo foo |
| 00:46.03 | purl | foo |
| 00:46.05 | ckknight_ | ah |
| 00:46.10 | ckknight_ | crafty |
| 00:46.10 | hyperChipmunk | that's why we have bots |
| 00:46.15 | Funkeh` | 0.72sec |
| 00:46.15 | ckknight_ | you're just as good |
| 00:46.21 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
| 00:46.32 | ckknight_ | ~echo asdfckasdf |
| 00:46.34 | purl | asdfckasdf |
| 00:46.38 | ckknight_ | hrm... |
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| 00:46.46 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 00:46.46 | Roartindon | you might want to echo with ckknight_ in it :) |
| 00:47.04 | ckknight_ | yea, I wanted it to not echo on asdfckasdf but it did |
| 00:47.34 | Chompers | asdfckasdf sounds like a gold sellers name |
| 00:48.55 | Roartindon | durcyn: Did that fix it for you? |
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| 00:49.06 | Roartindon | durcyn: I've been running it for a couple of days with the combattime change without any errors. |
| 00:49.12 | ckknight_ | ~echo asdfckasdf |
| 00:49.13 | purl | asdfckasdf |
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| 00:49.58 | kebinusan | seems something is broken in the latest threatlib |
| 00:50.03 | kebinusan | I get no threat in combat |
| 00:50.13 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight_: you want /hilight -regexp ^ck i think |
| 00:50.30 | kebinusan | and no errors |
| 00:50.36 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i do for hC |
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| 00:51.13 | hyperChipmunk | you don't need to leave and rejoin either O_o |
| 00:51.17 | ckknight | ooh |
| 00:51.25 | ckknight | yea, just testing stuffs |
| 00:51.32 | ckknight | I wish I could change fonts for stuff, tough |
| 00:51.34 | hyperChipmunk | it applies from all messages forwards |
| 00:51.37 | ckknight | monospace is lame |
| 00:51.39 | durcyn | Roartindon: haven't had time to test yet, trying to kill ssc trash interrupts my fun. |
| 00:51.42 | ckknight | hard to read in comparison to variable-width |
| 00:51.43 | hyperChipmunk | you do that with your console O_o |
| 00:51.53 | bigzero | do you have to have AceEvent to use AceAddon? 'Cause someone just posted an error under my addon that says that you do... |
| 00:52.00 | ckknight | yes, bigzero |
| 00:52.03 | hyperChipmunk | you don't want variable-width |
| 00:52.07 | ckknight | yes, I do |
| 00:52.15 | ckknight | why wouldn't I? |
| 00:52.15 | hyperChipmunk | it's too scrunchy |
| 00:52.24 | ckknight | except that monospace is harder to read |
| 00:52.26 | hyperChipmunk | it hurts your eyes |
| 00:52.28 | ckknight | this has been proven |
| 00:52.30 | ckknight | by scienticians |
| 00:52.47 | bigzero | ckknight, so if I'm including AceAddon in my libs I should also have AceEvent, eh? :-/ |
| 00:52.50 | ckknight | yes. |
| 00:53.01 | hyperChipmunk | same ones that provened your disgusting black-on-white theme? |
| 00:53.16 | ckknight | no |
| 00:53.23 | ckknight | and I gave up and am now using white-on-black |
| 00:53.26 | ckknight | still lame |
| 00:53.40 | hyperChipmunk | that's what you wanted anyway |
| 00:53.43 | FroMaster | How can I revert to an older release with WAU? |
| 00:53.44 | ckknight | but seriously, variable width is easier to read due to different shapes for each word, faster recognition |
| 00:53.57 | ckknight | no it's not... |
| 00:54.25 | Funkeh` | FroMaster: wait 5 minutes then update again |
| 00:54.41 | hyperChipmunk | perhaps; but variable width in a console makes my brain ache |
| 00:54.43 | kebinusan | hmm this is weird I get no errors, but assessment shows no data and Omen while shows received data just fine, I get no actual threat for myself |
| 00:57.13 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: not in a console. |
| 00:57.30 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: any idea on how to make each individual name a different color in the channel? |
| 00:57.36 | ckknight | I don't like everyone being just white |
| 00:57.43 | Dotted | ewwwwwww |
| 00:57.44 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 00:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | there's like a bajillion people |
| 00:58.16 | ckknight | yea, and some might overlap |
| 00:58.21 | ckknight | but I don't like everyone being white |
| 00:58.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I tried random name colors for a while. What invariably happened is that i associated a color with a name, and then got confused when there was overlap. >< |
| 00:58.38 | hyperChipmunk | try /tastethefrigginrainbow |
| 00:59.02 | ckknight | Irssi: Unknown command: tastethefrigginrainbow |
| 00:59.56 | Chompers | http://www.mirc.net/projects.php?go=1107596381 |
| 00:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | also, that's why you can't get your variable width font |
| 01:00.13 | hyperChipmunk | that's supposed to be handled by the console |
| 01:00.45 | ckknight | I'm using variable-width font in the channel now... |
| 01:00.54 | CIA-22 | 03aurimas * r39786 10GlowFoSho/GlowFoSho.lua: |
| 01:00.54 | CIA-22 | GlowFoSho: |
| 01:00.54 | CIA-22 | -Improved empty link handling |
| 01:02.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39787 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - bugfix |
| 01:02.48 | Funkeh` | FroMaster: try update now and tell me if its fixed |
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| 01:06.25 | CIA-22 | 03aurimas * r39788 10GlowFoSho/GlowFoSho.toc: |
| 01:06.25 | CIA-22 | GlowFoSho: |
| 01:06.25 | CIA-22 | -Added AceEvent-2.0 to the toc for AceAddon to work properly |
| 01:07.25 | ckknight | ugh, I'm going back to Colloquy |
| 01:07.37 | ckknight | worst case scenario, I'll just work a few extra hours and buy some more ram |
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| 01:08.27 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: i get an error from omen when logging in with the agro bar disabled, works when its enabled, want it? |
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| 01:15.36 | Antiar1 | Sure |
| 01:15.48 | Galka | [2007/06/13 21:15:56-1064-x1]: Roster-2.1-39684 (RosterLib):414: Usage: UnitName("unit") |
| 01:15.50 | Galka | T_T |
| 01:16.00 | Galka | Happened when I join a raid |
| 01:16.32 | ckknight | I should fix that... |
| 01:16.34 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: that looks like a RosterLib error O_o |
| 01:16.37 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 01:16.38 | ckknight | it is |
| 01:16.40 | hyperChipmunk | Galka: |
| 01:16.53 | hyperChipmunk | meh |
| 01:17.11 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39789 10Assessment/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:17.11 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 01:17.11 | CIA-22 | - Added Aggro Gain text configuration |
| 01:17.11 | CIA-22 | - Added player color configuration, and made threat bars use it |
| 01:17.11 | CIA-22 | - Added primitive ColorTypeList configuration to display sets. They've always had them, just no option to change it |
| 01:17.43 | hyperChipmunk | here i was waiting for Antiarc to take care of your problem before pestering him with mine, and yours wasn't even his error! |
| 01:18.34 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: http://69.14.77.214/omenpullouttext.png -- any way to make that font bigger than flyspeck-2? |
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| 01:19.39 | hyperChipmunk | my scanning electron microscope can't quite pick up what it says |
| 01:19.55 | Cryect | haha |
| 01:20.16 | Cryect | Thats like what font size 4 or 5? |
| 01:20.55 | hyperChipmunk | size way-too-frickin-small |
| 01:21.02 | Cryect | guess its 6 after counting :-p |
| 01:21.25 | Cryect | still its like 1/4th the height of the bar |
| 01:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: referring to the text in the center of the bar, btw |
| 01:22.45 | ZealotOnAStick | what's the script command to reset Omen's DB? |
| 01:23.00 | hyperChipmunk | /script OmenDB=nil ? |
| 01:23.01 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 01:23.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39790 10RosterLib/Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua: .Roster-2.1 - added a quick legitimate unit check. |
| 01:24.10 | darchon_ | Antiarc: I can read UTF-8(without BOM) koKR, but wowace trac doesn't show correctly. see http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/39782 In my opinion, UTF-8(with BOM) is good choice. |
| 01:25.04 | Roartindon | ckknight: The latest parser-3.0 with recycled tables |
| 01:25.07 | Roartindon | is not working properly |
| 01:25.11 | ckknight | lame. |
| 01:25.14 | Roartindon | Assessment isn't receiving any events, and neither is threat |
| 01:25.15 | ckknight | what's fucking up? |
| 01:25.17 | Roartindon | so all threat is showing up as 0 |
| 01:25.22 | ckknight | ugh |
| 01:25.24 | ckknight | any errors? |
| 01:25.24 | Roartindon | and all damage/healing is ignored |
| 01:25.29 | Roartindon | no errors |
| 01:25.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i think you broke parser |
| 01:25.36 | Roartindon | reverting to 39396 shows up properly |
| 01:25.41 | Roartindon | and threat/assessment work again |
| 01:25.45 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 01:25.46 | ckknight | thanks for reiterating what Roartindon is just telling me, Funkeh` |
| 01:25.52 | Funkeh` | i didn't see :) |
| 01:25.57 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: I think you broke bigwigs :P |
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| 01:26.05 | Cryect | haha |
| 01:26.17 | Funkeh` | whats broke about it? |
| 01:26.26 | Cryect | Parser-3.0 wouldn't be any fun if ckknight didn't break it once a week or so |
| 01:27.53 | Antiar1 | darchon_: Does Lua handle the BOM alright? |
| 01:28.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39791 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - revert to r39396 |
| 01:28.26 | ckknight | Antiarc: yes |
| 01:28.36 | Antiarc | I had a number of modules just "stop working", and when I pulled them up they were in ascii with the BOM |
| 01:29.01 | ckknight | it would've given an error |
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| 01:29.07 | ckknight | syntax error |
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| 01:32.37 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39792 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 01:32.37 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 01:32.37 | CIA-22 | - Boss: Updated localization koKR |
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| 01:33.32 | NimbleRabit | Can anyone explain why ClosetGnome doesn't want to switch a trinket from one slot to the other? |
| 01:33.35 | NimbleRabit | just wondering |
| 01:34.09 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r39793 10EnchantingSell/ (3 files): |
| 01:34.09 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 01:34.09 | CIA-22 | - current player name is now displayed in the title |
| 01:34.10 | CIA-22 | - scrolling reagents now implemented |
| 01:34.10 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r39794 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:34.10 | CIA-22 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 01:34.12 | CIA-22 | - Price updates |
| 01:34.14 | CIA-22 | - (Several Gem prices have been corrected for WoW 2.1) |
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| 01:35.19 | ckknight | ugh, I have chest pains now |
| 01:36.01 | NimbleRabit | gah this triinket thing is giving me headache T_T |
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| 01:36.42 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39795 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen : Updated localization koKR |
| 01:36.54 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39796 10Assessment/CoreModules/DisplaySets.lua: Assessment: Fixed specifying color type lists that are shorter than the previous setting |
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| 01:41.05 | durcyn | okay, Roartindon. reset all three SVs, getting CombatTime.lua: 148: attempt to index local combatTime (a nil value) |
| 01:41.54 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: did you get my message about the omen error? |
| 01:43.07 | Roartindon | durcyn: Did you reset per-character SV? |
| 01:43.23 | Roartindon | the one in Account\USERNAME\REALMNAME\CharacterName\SavedVariables ? |
| 01:43.32 | durcyn | Roartindon: AssessmentDBPerCharacter as per toc. just removed the SV files and trying again. |
| 01:43.48 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.57 | Roartindon | durcyn: Not sure it does |
| 01:44.07 | durcyn | well, that's irksome. |
| 01:48.18 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39797 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:48.18 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 01:48.18 | CIA-22 | - Removed SpellColorType |
| 01:48.18 | CIA-22 | - Added CustomColorType. This can be used to specify coloration for pretty much anything you want (eg. color hit differently from crit/etc). Using it on large lists is not recommended. |
| 01:48.56 | Roartindon | durcyn: any luck? it seems to be working here without error..... though, let me try and reset all my SVs again too |
| 01:49.26 | durcyn | getting it on 113 and 148 still. local combatTime nil. |
| 01:49.43 | Roartindon | durcyn: Okay, let me see. |
| 01:49.44 | durcyn | let me just reinstall it completely. |
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| 01:53.17 | chrisp_- | can i ask questions about wow and lua here? |
| 01:53.27 | JoshBorke | no |
| 01:53.39 | JoshBorke | well |
| 01:53.41 | JoshBorke | you can try |
| 01:53.53 | JoshBorke | some people aren't very successful at asking questions though |
| 01:54.05 | chrisp_- | oh, ok... |
| 01:54.14 | chrisp_- | do you know much about lua? |
| 01:54.21 | JoshBorke | 2 + 2 = 5 |
| 01:54.34 | chrisp_- | so, thats no? |
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| 01:54.43 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 01:54.50 | Roartindon | durcyn: About to commit a fix |
| 01:54.55 | hyperChipmunk | ask a relevant question please |
| 01:54.55 | cladhaire | 8-Ball says: "Absolutely." |
| 01:55.04 | JoshBorke | see, clad agrees with me, it must be true |
| 01:55.08 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: for extremely large values of 2. |
| 01:55.18 | JoshBorke | exactly |
| 01:55.18 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39798 10Assessment/Modules/CombatTime.lua: Assessment: Added OnInit code to make sure that combatTime exists |
| 01:55.29 | JoshBorke | because you know, once you hit 2.5 it might as well be 3 |
| 01:55.31 | JoshBorke | and then you get 6 |
| 01:55.35 | Roartindon | durcyn: Sorry about that, not sure how it worked for me before >< |
| 01:56.23 | chrisp_- | can any one help me, im trying to make a loop for lua, but at a set interval |
| 01:56.26 | Roartindon | durcyn: On the plus side, there are some good improvements in the last couple of days :) |
| 01:56.44 | Roartindon | chrisp_-: for i=1,10,2 do ? |
| 01:56.45 | JoshBorke | chrisp_-: have you read the PIL? |
| 01:56.56 | ckknight | chrisp_-: you want to make a function fire every 0.1 seconds or so? |
| 01:57.21 | chrisp_- | yes, but not so often, maybe 5 seconds, but basicaly, ya |
| 01:57.25 | ckknight | chrisp_-: AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):ScheduleRepeatingEvent("somename", function() print("pants") end, 5) |
| 01:57.26 | ckknight | done |
| 01:57.48 | JoshBorke | or |
| 01:57.53 | ckknight | or pants |
| 01:57.54 | sylvanaar | Roartindon how does your tag compiler work? does it generate strings directly or does it create tables and then concat them? i guess i could look at the source, huh |
| 01:58.13 | hyperChipmunk | well, he did ask for a general Lua solution, not an ace/wow one |
| 01:58.14 | ckknight | DogTag currently does a table.concat |
| 01:58.28 | ckknight | I may change that to a string.format |
| 01:58.45 | chrisp_- | i asked this in #lua but they said to ask somewhere about wow |
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| 01:59.07 | ckknight | it's a wow thing, not a lua thing, chrisp_- |
| 01:59.09 | chrisp_- | cause i have a script that can do this, but i cant find where in it it does |
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| 02:00.06 | ckknight | chrisp_-: the general gist is that you make a frame, set an OnUpdate on it, then have it only execute every 5 seconds |
| 02:00.08 | JoshBorke | local timeBetweenRuns = 5; local f = CreateFrame('Frame',nil, UIParent); f:SetScript('OnUpdate', function(frame, elapsed) frame.timeToNext = frame.timeToNext - elapsed; while frame.timeToNext < 0 do <do stuff> frame.timeToNext = frame.timeToNext + timeBetweenRuns; end frame.timeToNext = timeBetweenRuns end) f:Show() |
| 02:00.17 | ckknight | chrisp_-: AceEvent can handle that for you, if you want |
| 02:00.19 | ckknight | your choice |
| 02:00.36 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: hmm.. tag compiler is a LL(1) parser with bits that table.concat, and bits that concat strings |
| 02:00.52 | JoshBorke | chrisp_-: basic format for what i just wrote came from http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_Correctly |
| 02:01.02 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: The result of the compiler is a table, which includes a method that creates the string/text/etc of what was required |
| 02:01.12 | chrisp_- | ok, thanks for helping me |
| 02:01.30 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: but obviously AceEvent makes it very easy :-0 |
| 02:01.37 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: If you're curious, modify Aloft.lua, the Aloft.Debug = line, to make it show for your character |
| 02:01.48 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: And it'll spit out the tag compiler's results |
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| 02:02.19 | Roartindon | Assessment has a similar .Debug function you can modify to check it out if you have that installed too. |
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| 02:02.38 | JoshBorke | *sigh* and he's gone |
| 02:02.56 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39799 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc embeds.xml): BigWigs: fix all my mess |
| 02:04.11 | durcyn | Roartindon: seems to actually work with blowing away the addon folder and savedvars again, then reloading. i must be cursed. |
| 02:04.23 | Roartindon | durcyn: Update to the r39798 also |
| 02:04.33 | Roartindon | durcyn: I fixed a problem there that could cause those combatTime messages |
| 02:04.49 | durcyn | done. thanks =) |
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| 02:06.25 | Roartindon | durcyn: Thanks for the bug report :) |
| 02:06.57 | Galka | Violation error: [2007/06/13 22:03:24-1065-x2]: Violation-1.0.39706\Violation.lua:1822: attempt to compare number with nil |
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| 02:13.41 | hyperChipmunk | gg Funkeh` |
| 02:14.12 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk: hush |
| 02:14.23 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39800 10Assessment/CoreModules/DisplaySets.lua: Assessment: Removing a color type list (setting it to empty) will now update displays immediately |
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| 02:28.44 | sylvanaar | Roartindon i like it its cool, seems like it could be adapted for use with prat even |
| 02:29.47 | Roartindon | sylvanaar: It was written to be used by as many addons that want to use it :) there's nothing there that's aloft or assessment specific. |
| 02:30.53 | syeren | ckknight? |
| 02:31.04 | syeren | nymbia: ping :P |
| 02:31.09 | mikma | Roartindon: i has an error. fix it. |
| 02:31.32 | ckknight | syeren: what? |
| 02:32.00 | syeren | http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10707&page=10 |
| 02:32.09 | syeren | Might want to clear up the hate / confusion there :p |
| 02:32.23 | mikma | Roartindon: combattime error when i enter and leave combat for the first time after /rl |
| 02:32.41 | Roartindon | mikma: Updated within the last hour? |
| 02:32.45 | mikma | Roartindon: err, no |
| 02:32.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39801 10Omen/ (OmenMenu.lua OmenThreatBar.lua): Omen: Fixed a problem with the class filtering. |
| 02:33.02 | Roartindon | mikma: 40 minutes ago: "CIA-22 |
| 02:33.03 | Roartindon | (11:24am) |
| 02:33.03 | Roartindon | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.47 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39802 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Plugins/Modules.xml): BigWigs: make this .xml crap work at last, this should result in 2 speedups, 1 if you are using standalone libraries with WAU and 2 if you are using LoD :) |
| 02:34.55 | ckknight | I'm working on making PitBull faster |
| 02:35.13 | ckknight | people keep bothering me with complaints of PitBull not being fast enough |
| 02:35.19 | ckknight | viscious cycle |
| 02:35.37 | Thrae | Indeed! PitBulls aren't fast -- they're vicious ;) |
| 02:35.48 | ckknight | it'll bite your face off, minimally |
| 02:35.53 | Funkeh` | 'fast enough' ? |
| 02:35.57 | Funkeh` | elaborate? :P |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39803 10Assessment/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | - Removed default "Class" colortype from all display sets |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | - Added Class colortype to those that needed it |
| 02:37.18 | syeren | ckknight, I just thought I should bring that page to your attention :P |
| 02:37.24 | ckknight | I replied |
| 02:37.38 | ckknight | Funkeh`: in AV, if people join/leave, there's a slight lag |
| 02:37.56 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 02:39.50 | cladhaire | ckknight: where is the lag coming from? |
| 02:40.33 | ckknight | cladhaire: I've been updating every frame on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED |
| 02:40.45 | cladhaire | why not use OnAttributeChanged |
| 02:40.55 | cladhaire | that's what we're supposed to be using now |
| 02:40.56 | ckknight | gonna figure out a queuing system to make it so only the things that change get updated |
| 02:41.05 | cladhaire | if you use OAC and cache the unit name |
| 02:41.09 | cladhaire | you only update when required. |
| 02:41.14 | ckknight | that's what I was planning |
| 02:41.33 | cladhaire | k |
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| 02:48.15 | KarlThePagan | hyperChipmunk, is there something i can do about my bulkmail window being stuck behind my mail window? |
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| 02:48.34 | ckknight | how can f:IsVisible() == nil when f:IsShown() == 1 and f:GetParent():IsVisible() == 1? |
| 02:48.53 | KarlThePagan | any way of changing the scale without being able to click on the window perhaps |
| 02:48.59 | Shirik | ckknight: it... can't |
| 02:49.01 | Shirik | are you sure? |
| 02:49.09 | ckknight | yes, I'm positive |
| 02:49.20 | ckknight | I did a :SetParent thing |
| 02:49.26 | ckknight | and now :IsVisible() == nil |
| 02:51.07 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39804 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: And added SpellDamageType back to fight damage details |
| 02:51.19 | ckknight | okay, if I do :Show(), then :IsVisible() == 1 |
| 02:51.27 | ckknight | even though :IsShown() == 1 before that |
| 02:51.48 | ckknight | fucked up shit, I tell you what |
| 02:52.36 | Keias | That reminds me of King of the Hill |
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| 02:52.56 | ckknight | we love you rophy |
| 02:52.59 | ckknight | make love to me, rophy |
| 02:53.16 | ckknight | yes, my freaky queuing system works! |
| 02:53.33 | Cryect | haha |
| 02:53.50 | rophy | wth was that XD |
| 02:56.10 | ckknight | rophy: south park reference |
| 02:56.14 | ckknight | the day after tomorrow one |
| 02:56.23 | ckknight | no, different one |
| 02:56.27 | ckknight | either way, it involved Randy |
| 03:01.15 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39805 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Gruul: timer tweaks, fucking random timers burn in hell really |
| 03:05.26 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39806 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: |
| 03:05.26 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes integrating time based data when no combat fight is selected (was causing the actual data to integrate) |
| 03:05.26 | CIA-22 | -Adds data at the boundaries so when you integrate looks much nicer now (lerps or inserts a 0) |
| 03:06.14 | Aenslaed | oh man. so close to 4pc tier5~ Have a chance at it tonight D |
| 03:06.18 | Aenslaed | :D |
| 03:16.42 | Thrae | Roartindon: I have determined that "Assesment" is too bland a name, without a hint of innuendo. Considering the addon saves -everything-, for the obsessive user, it should be renamed "Anal". |
| 03:24.08 | Thorgard^2 | Should make the Assessment icon the 'alpha' sign. |
| 03:25.07 | Cryect | instead of the alpha sign how about the Aelph symbol |
| 03:25.51 | Cryect | aleph* |
| 03:26.12 | Thrae | 07:23 < chuckg> "Have you updated your Anal routines yet? The new methods really lubricate the whole process." <-- this is why Assesment MUST be renamed! |
| 03:26.24 | NightHawkTheSane | "The mod formally known as Assessment."? :P |
| 03:27.01 | Thrae | We all know a mod named "Anal" will get 2x the downloads then one named "Assessment" |
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| 03:27.23 | Funkeh` | Anal Assessment? |
| 03:27.29 | Cryect | Anal Probe |
| 03:27.31 | Thrae | Just "Anal" |
| 03:27.59 | Thrae | If you use "Anal Probe", that's too obvious. "Anal" could be "Anal Retentitive", which is what Assessment is for. |
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| 03:38.21 | Antiarc | I can then write a data persistance mod for it named Butt Pluig |
| 03:38.46 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r39807 10EnchantingSell/ (3 files): |
| 03:38.46 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 03:38.46 | CIA-22 | - refactored how enchant and reagent data is collected and merged |
| 03:38.46 | CIA-22 | - data is now displayed properly when you open ES the first time. |
| 03:38.51 | Wobwork | You could call any modules for it Anal Beads |
| 03:39.01 | Kemayo | Antiarc: Threat error. Happened when I summoned an Infernal in combat. http://ace.pastey.net/56842 |
| 03:42.04 | Antiarc | Aha, ok, thanks |
| 03:42.07 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39808 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Moves data integrating before data sparsening for graph display resulting in more accurate integrated graphs. |
| 03:43.09 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39809 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fixes to "Grow Upwards" |
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| 03:44.52 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39810 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:44.52 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 03:44.52 | CIA-22 | Fixes to :StartFight() invocation |
| 03:44.52 | CIA-22 | Removed an improper threat wipe on Mag |
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| 03:46.51 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39811 10Assessment/ (CoreModules/DisplaySets.lua Modules/BarInterface.lua): |
| 03:46.51 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 03:46.51 | CIA-22 | - Fixed toggling text that used to be visible off |
| 03:46.51 | CIA-22 | - Fixed adding new text fields |
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| 03:52.26 | Gngsk | Tekkub, ping |
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| 03:52.38 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39812 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Another GrowUpfix |
| 03:52.43 | Tekkub | what? |
| 03:52.54 | Gngsk | I have a request for duratek |
| 03:52.58 | Gngsk | option to ignore ranged slot |
| 03:53.20 | Tekkub | I moved on to Fizzle long time ago |
| 03:53.24 | Tekkub | loooooooooong ago |
| 03:53.26 | Gngsk | oh, ok |
| 03:53.29 | Thorgard^2 | Lies. |
| 03:53.44 | Tekkub | it's a much better place to display durability IMO |
| 03:54.12 | Gngsk | anyway, reason being. thrown weapons don't take durability from death, so having it at 100% and everything else low skews it |
| 03:55.23 | Tekkub | Fizzle ^^ |
| 03:55.30 | Gngsk | I use it |
| 03:55.35 | Gngsk | but I enjoy redundance |
| 03:55.37 | Tekkub | it'd prolly be easy to go poke in the code and comment out the thrown slot |
| 03:55.49 | Tekkub | I don't enjoy redundance :P |
| 03:56.12 | Tekkub | I got fizzle if I care (usually don't) and Cork reminds me if I need repairs |
| 03:56.23 | Tekkub | no need for an always up frame |
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| 04:02.32 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39813 10Assessment/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:02.32 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 04:02.32 | CIA-22 | - Added isReport tag |
| 04:02.32 | CIA-22 | - Added 3rd text field to Raw healing which shows actual, overheal and % overheal in reports only. |
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| 05:39.57 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.8 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater |
| 05:40.12 | Cryect | guess I will do that for a quick fix here shortly |
| 05:40.19 | Roartindon | Cryect: in combination with large combat log ranges, it seems like a reasonable compromise |
| 05:40.36 | Cryect | want to finish setting the graph window so you can select times |
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| 05:45.35 | Athou_ | ckknight: just logged in : http://ace.pastey.net/56846 |
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| 05:46.32 | kebinusan | heh, that flightmaster holdup is creative |
| 05:46.38 | kebinusan | sucks they had such a bad gm |
| 05:48.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39827 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - nil check |
| 05:48.11 | ckknight | Athou_: test with that |
| 05:49.43 | boobies4u | morn clayton |
| 05:49.48 | ckknight | stop it |
| 05:50.02 | boobies4u | :< |
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| 05:51.18 | Athou_ | [2007/06/14 07:49:56-733-x1]: PitBull\PitBull.lua:13: attempt to concatenate local 'VERSION' (a nil value) |
| 05:51.41 | ZealotOnAStick | So, we were supposed to do Al'ar tonight . . . and hopefully finally kill him, if people can manage to move out of the damn fire. |
| 05:52.18 | ZealotOnAStick | But then at like, 3 minutes to raid time, one of our Warriors and a Priest posted they were going to an Astros game. Plus, we had like . . . 21 people at 7 p.m. |
| 05:52.34 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: /sigh |
| 05:52.36 | ZealotOnAStick | So instead we did Maulgar, Gruul, Kazzak, Magtheridon, and Doomwalker. |
| 05:53.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39828 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - remove the pet update in RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE. not sure why that was there. |
| 05:53.06 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: At least you got those out of the way |
| 05:53.25 | ZealotOnAStick | While I was sitting to allow another lock in on Gruul for a shot at the sword (Which of course didn't drop), I posted some recruiting stuff on World of Raids, WoW Forums, etc. |
| 05:53.39 | ZealotOnAStick | And then talked to 2 people tonight, one of which is probably going to be our new 5th lock tomorrow. |
| 05:53.45 | ckknight | Athou_: that's your own fault for taking off the website and not through files or svn properly |
| 05:54.47 | Athou_ | ah right |
| 05:55.27 | Athou_ | ok now it's working, thanks :) |
| 05:56.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39829 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - properly align maintank/mainassist in the menu |
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| 05:59.25 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: you know what would make PitBull even more awesome? |
| 05:59.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hookers and blackjack? |
| 05:59.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, aside from that. |
| 06:00.13 | ckknight | sorry, aside from hookers and blackjack, I just don't know |
| 06:00.47 | ZealotOnAStick | In-game configuration of status icon placements on the ABF layout. (PvP, Rested, In Combat, Leader, Looter, etc.). |
| 06:00.48 | Cryect | free booze? |
| 06:01.55 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:02.00 | ckknight | yea, I was planning on that eventually |
| 06:02.14 | ckknight | the goal is to deprecate the layout system and have ABF swallow all possible settings |
| 06:02.25 | NightHawkTheSane | you were planning on free booze? well shit. i'd switch to pitbull for that |
| 06:02.26 | ckknight | then build a new layout system on top of that which is just default settings |
| 06:02.47 | ckknight | I could go for a beer right now |
| 06:03.04 | ZealotOnAStick | I frankly get tired of editing abf.lua every day to change the icon placements. |
| 06:03.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I set it read only, and then there was actually a layout change. :/ |
| 06:03.35 | Fisker- | ~seen sedatedChipmunk |
| 06:04.03 | purl | sedatedchipmunk is currently on #hosernet #wowace, last said: 'iPhone'. |
| 06:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: you have no idea how much i would kill for a beer right now. |
| 06:04.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I had one a while ago. Some kind of Pale Ale. *checks for bottle in trash* |
| 06:04.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Whitebread Pale Ale. |
| 06:04.13 | NightHawkTheSane | hosernet? |
| 06:04.14 | Kyahx | ZealotOnAStick: put your custom ABF.lua file into a small, separate addon that's depent on PitBull, so that it will replace the default stuff on load? |
| 06:04.17 | ZealotOnAStick | was . . .ok. |
| 06:04.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39830 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make GroupToLocale have better handling of singular vs. plural |
| 06:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd love a fat tire, acutally |
| 06:04.37 | Kyahx | even through WAU updates |
| 06:04.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh, I've had Fat Tire, is not bad. |
| 06:05.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Same company makes Old Nick don't they? |
| 06:05.04 | Fisker- | ckknight is there a way i can temporarily hide a specific frame with a command? |
| 06:05.15 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.18 | ckknight | hides the one you're hovering over |
| 06:05.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: if they do, i dont think i've ever seen it |
| 06:05.47 | ZealotOnAStick | my good old standby fave is Shiner Bock, but they don't sell it in Indiana. . . . and I'll be damned if I'm driving to Ohio for it with current gas pricing. |
| 06:06.00 | Fisker- | oh lol |
| 06:06.08 | Kalman| | Zealot: You a fan of Three Floyd's? |
| 06:06.09 | Fisker- | i hope this is temporary |
| 06:06.20 | ckknight | Fisker-: what'd you hide? |
| 06:06.23 | Fisker- | worldframe |
| 06:06.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Kalman|: not familiar with. |
| 06:06.28 | ckknight | Fisker-: bad. |
| 06:06.30 | ckknight | Fisker-: /rl |
| 06:06.35 | NightHawkTheSane | (oh god, this is going to turn into the EJ Beer forum, isnt it) |
| 06:06.38 | Fisker- | couldn't write anything :( |
| 06:06.39 | Kalman| | Brewery up in Muenster. If you see any of their stuff, I'd recommend giving it a shot. |
| 06:06.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Hahahaha. |
| 06:06.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh, that's good. |
| 06:06.48 | Kalman| | (I will refrain, NightHawkTheSane. :P) |
| 06:06.52 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got to pull that one on my GL. |
| 06:07.03 | ckknight | Fisker-: *shrug* |
| 06:07.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalman|: nah, it's cool, i don't mind. i'm just amused. :) |
| 06:07.26 | ZealotOnAStick | EJ has a beer forum? |
| 06:07.28 | Fisker- | I tried to hide the mailframe but it only removed the text ;D |
| 06:07.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I should really pay more attention. |
| 06:07.35 | ckknight | Fisker-: you have BugSack? |
| 06:07.37 | ckknight | shift-click on it |
| 06:07.40 | Kalman| | ZealotOnAStick: There's a like 35 page thread about beer. |
| 06:07.41 | Fisker- | yup |
| 06:07.53 | Fisker- | oh u, now i reloaded again |
| 06:08.04 | Fisker- | just restarted the game :P |
| 06:08.11 | ZealotOnAStick | I usually just skim interesting things in the raiding/strat forums and ui boards there. |
| 06:08.30 | ZealotOnAStick | with a little ocasional dabbling in theorycraft. |
| 06:08.49 | ckknight | Fisker-: :-P |
| 06:09.05 | Fisker- | can i move the frame instead? |
| 06:09.07 | ZealotOnAStick | I found BigBrother there, which was nifty. |
| 06:09.11 | Fisker- | Also temporary :I |
| 06:09.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Hey, whatever happened to those plans for that addon to do useful and violent things to the damn GM Ticket Status Frame? |
| 06:09.49 | Cryect | Kalman|: What do you mean thread thats a forum! |
| 06:09.57 | rubik | anyone use Mendeleev? |
| 06:10.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: hasn't sexed anyone into making it yet |
| 06:10.03 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/OH-U.jpg <-you see? :P |
| 06:10.12 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. i dont suppose there should be a colon there. |
| 06:10.14 | Fisker- | noone wants to be sexed :P |
| 06:10.16 | NightHawkTheSane | silly tab complete |
| 06:10.54 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39831 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 06:10.54 | CIA-22 | Recount - Readds back in syncing to a limited degree based only on messages involving you (based on Roartindon's suggestion) |
| 06:10.54 | CIA-22 | -You can now zoom in on regions on the graph window by clicking and dragging |
| 06:10.54 | rubik | did something change (in Mendeleev) recently or am i going crazy? in regards to "Component In:" shown... cause, holy shit the list is way too long now.. it used to only show stuff i could make? |
| 06:11.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker-: your ui arrangement is better than I remember before. |
| 06:11.36 | Kalman| | Cryect: Yes, but it's in the Forum Protection Program; they changed its name to a thread and stuck it out in the middle of nowhere. |
| 06:11.39 | ZealotOnAStick | How is the XLoot stuff nowadays, anyway? I haven't played with it since it was breaking frequently. |
| 06:12.00 | Fisker- | indeed ZealotOnAStick :o |
| 06:12.04 | Xuerian | ZealotOnAStick: Should be working fine, fairly much |
| 06:12.12 | NightHawkTheSane | except for the parts Xuerian broke. :P |
| 06:12.17 | Fisker- | haven't been having problems for ages |
| 06:12.19 | rubik | no issues with the XLoot stuff here.. (: |
| 06:12.29 | Cryect | Where is it now exactly? I just noticed it kinda vanished I never really read it since barely drink since leaving college :-p |
| 06:12.49 | Kalman| | It pops up in Pub Discussion once in a while. |
| 06:12.57 | rubik | Fisker-: how is it that the key mapping after shift-9 in your screenie is the "1/2" key?! |
| 06:13.02 | Antiarc | ADDON_DEP_BANNED = "Dependency banned"; |
| 06:13.02 | Antiarc | :O |
| 06:13.05 | ZealotOnAStick | What's the little wrapped box icon next to BigWigs there? |
| 06:13.12 | ckknight | Antiarc: hrm? |
| 06:13.17 | Cryect | Antiarc: yarr I always wonder do they ever use thqt |
| 06:13.36 | Antiarc | ckknight: Just going through Blizzard's localization file |
| 06:14.13 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r39832 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (PeriodicTable-3.0-Misc/PeriodicTable-3.0-Misc.lua data.lua): |
| 06:14.13 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 06:14.13 | CIA-22 | -- Nether Ray Mounts |
| 06:14.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. The micro buttons really need something to give them a facelift, don't they? |
| 06:14.44 | rubik | speaking of PT3.. what's the point of the Tier 6 group in PT3Browser if it errors out? same with T4 and T5 groups, IIRC |
| 06:14.54 | rubik | or is that a PT3Browser bug? |
| 06:15.05 | Fisker- | there |
| 06:15.13 | Fisker- | rubik for 1337ness |
| 06:15.16 | Cryect | Kalman|: Any requests for the graph window besides I need to still add something in for comparing players :-p |
| 06:15.25 | rubik | hah |
| 06:15.35 | Fisker- | ½ is next to 1 on my keyboard :P |
| 06:15.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker-: What's the little wrapped box icon next to BigWigs there? |
| 06:15.41 | Fisker- | so it's close to where my fingers are |
| 06:15.46 | Fisker- | bulkmail |
| 06:15.46 | *** part/#wowace rubik_ (n=rubik@cpe-76-167-55-89.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:15.48 | Fisker- | and i hate sedatedChipmunk |
| 06:15.53 | Kalman| | Cryect: Not unless you can figure out how to do stacked area graphs for comparisons. |
| 06:15.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. |
| 06:15.58 | Kalman| | At least not off the top of my head. |
| 06:16.24 | Kalman| | Hm. Possibly make it retain the "enabled" settings between sessions? |
| 06:16.53 | Fisker- | For some reason his send mail frame was behind the mailbox frame |
| 06:16.55 | Cryect | thats easy to do guess can do that one then |
| 06:17.08 | Fisker- | Finally got it out by doing MailFrame:SetScale(0.1) |
| 06:17.12 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 06:18.00 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r39833 10AutoBar/ (11 files): |
| 06:18.00 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 06:18.00 | CIA-22 | -- Consumable.Potion.Recovery.[Healing | Mana].Blades Edge |
| 06:18.00 | CIA-22 | -- Nether Ray Mounts |
| 06:19.00 | Cryect | Curious anyone know with memoizations in AceComm can I add more values later without wiping out the old stuff? |
| 06:19.37 | Fisker- | how do i use myself as a target in a macro? |
| 06:20.03 | Cryect | [target=player] |
| 06:20.10 | Cryect | I would think? |
| 06:20.33 | Cryect | lets see |
| 06:20.36 | Kalman| | Yep. |
| 06:20.39 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 06:20.59 | NightHawkTheSane | target= will take any valid unitid |
| 06:21.59 | Fisker- | if i already have a condition or whatever they're called would it then be [condition,condition2]? |
| 06:22.10 | Cryect | yeah |
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| 06:24.25 | ckknight | Cryect: adding more will make it so the old versions can't see the new memoizations but can still see the old ones |
| 06:24.27 | ckknight | as expected. |
| 06:25.03 | Cryect | ckknight: no I meant lets say I register some memoizations then want to register some additional ones later |
| 06:25.20 | ckknight | yea? what I said is correct. |
| 06:25.24 | Cryect | Oh okay |
| 06:26.13 | Cryect | heh what you said seemed to answer something else though I can see where this will run into issues |
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| 06:31.54 | Fisker- | btw |
| 06:31.59 | Fisker- | for some reason it didn't work |
| 06:32.06 | Fisker- | /cast [modifier:alt][target=player] Flash of Light (Rank 7); Flash of Light (Rank 7) |
| 06:32.08 | Fisker- | had to do that |
| 06:33.04 | Cryect | Uh? I think you didn't describe what you wanted :-p |
| 06:33.27 | Cryect | that should if you click alt cast FoL normally otherwise target the player? |
| 06:34.21 | boobies4u | ckknight, the ab bug with glory is back |
| 06:34.26 | boobies4u | both honorfu and prat gives error |
| 06:34.39 | ckknight | ah, I don't really care |
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| 06:37.49 | Fisker- | Cryect nah it works the other way |
| 06:38.14 | Cryect | strange |
| 06:38.33 | Cryect | well I guess it anded them for the first one |
| 06:38.47 | Cryect | whatever not thinking about macros when half asleep |
| 06:41.44 | Fisker- | Anyone know anything about that bash'ir raid they make in skyguard outpost? |
| 06:42.53 | Kalman| | Fisker-: Some. What do you want to know? |
| 06:44.48 | Fisker- | can you get to the flask vendor solo? |
| 06:45.11 | Cryect | Not really from what I understand but you can with like just a couple more people |
| 06:45.21 | Cryect | you can solo like all the mobs before the first boss |
| 06:45.50 | Cryect | its the later stuff after the flask vendor or whatever thats raid based actually |
| 06:46.04 | Fisker- | ok |
| 06:47.38 | Fisker- | but it's pretty weird |
| 06:47.50 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39834 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua: AutoBar: - Updated localization koKR |
| 06:48.10 | Fisker- | Sometimes selfcast with my macro works (Usually it was /stopcasting <newline> /cast Flash of Light (Rank 7)) but mostly in combat it wouldn't |
| 06:52.22 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39835 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Negative values for time based threat data get recorded now. When displayed in nonintegrated mode they will appear to be 0 though when you enable integration it will integrate them in as negatives. |
| 06:52.42 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r39836 10FuBar_ModMenuTuFu/ (FuBar_ModMenuTuFu.toc Libs/): |
| 06:52.42 | CIA-22 | FuBar_ModMenuTuFu: |
| 06:52.42 | CIA-22 | - AceLocale-2.2, yo. |
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| 06:54.05 | Kalman| | Cryect: Do you see any real value to a derivative mode? Generally speaking I wouldn't, but I'm not sure there's zero value. |
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| 06:54.41 | Cryect | I can't why anyone would really care about their DPSPS |
| 06:55.02 | ZealotOnAStick | DPSPS? |
| 06:55.45 | Cryect | well he was talking about adding the option for a derivative to the graph window in recount which shows the changes so take the derivative of that and you get DPSPS |
| 06:55.58 | Kalman| | I can see a couple cases, in terms of checking how fast someone ramps their damage, but not enough to be worth adding it. |
| 06:56.03 | Cryect | yeah |
| 06:56.04 | Kalman| | Was just a random 3 AM thought. |
| 06:56.11 | Cryect | I mean all it would in theory show me |
| 06:56.18 | Cryect | is when someone stops actively adding DPS |
| 06:56.21 | Cryect | or something |
| 06:56.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Could be useful if you can get a view of multiple people . . . see who ignored a DPS out call or is late or something. |
| 06:57.08 | Cryect | Yeah but you can see that fine on a DPS chart |
| 06:57.29 | ZealotOnAStick | then what would this derivative do, precisely? |
| 06:57.32 | Cryect | the second derivative imo would prolly seem to noisy |
| 06:58.26 | Kalman| | ZealotOnAStick: Probably nothing, which is why I asked Cryect if he could think of any use for it. :) |
| 06:58.44 | Cryect | I mean in nonWoW stuff I mean the second derivative means lots :-p |
| 06:59.16 | Cryect | it normally indenticates a change in trends |
| 06:59.30 | Kalman| | Well, yeah. |
| 06:59.59 | Cryect | which isn't that useful for a person who can see the graph and figure that out on their own |
| 07:00.09 | Cryect | but useful for algorithms |
| 07:00.14 | Kalman| | Also, indenticates? :p |
| 07:00.49 | Cryect | I'm sleepy |
| 07:00.52 | Cryect | and can't spell :-p |
| 07:00.57 | Cryect | I was like I know thats wrong |
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| 07:01.01 | Cryect | but can't think :-p |
| 07:01.19 | Cryect | so somehow ident got smashed in |
| 07:01.36 | Cryect | What I think would be more useful is the Fourier Transform |
| 07:01.46 | Cryect | So does anyone have a DFT library :-p |
| 07:02.01 | Kalman| | Heh. |
| 07:02.32 | Kalman| | I actually have a very nice time-space tradeoff for systems wherein DFT reporting is less frequent than sampling as an integer divisor of sampling. |
| 07:03.30 | Kalman| | But no DFT libraries. Adapt FFTW? |
| 07:03.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't know what that means, but it sounds impressive. |
| 07:03.46 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB0vWOaOjx0 = utterly bizarre |
| 07:04.05 | Cryect | huh? isn't DFT just a sampling on powers of 2 normally :-p I'm confused been years since I've worked on the math for signals stuff |
| 07:04.13 | Kalman| | Er, DFT is periodic in and of itself, so if you have a system with periodic aspects then you can use those aspects to reuse pre-existing calculations from an earlier section of the DFT. |
| 07:04.20 | Cryect | oh okay |
| 07:04.27 | Antiarc | As far as I'm concerned, DFT = Drake Fang Talisman and I don't need no steenking library for that! |
| 07:04.38 | Cryect | so you talking RT DFT then |
| 07:04.40 | Kalman| | Cryect: You're thinking of the FFT with the powers of 2 stuff. |
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| 07:04.45 | Cryect | Kalman|: yes |
| 07:04.56 | Kalman| | Which is just a particular way of doing a DFT that happens to be much faster. |
| 07:05.07 | Cryect | Kalman|: I like n log n algorithms over n^2 algorithms :-p |
| 07:05.13 | rjp | Hi, just curious, does anyone know of any ace mods off the top of their head that can show cooldowns as bars and also show a hunter's autoshot timer as a bar? |
| 07:05.15 | Kalman| | Well, who doesn't? :p |
| 07:05.29 | NightHawkTheSane | viva la n^2! |
| 07:05.42 | Cryect | still amuses me how its faster to transform things to Fourier space do something then transform back than just doing it in normal space |
| 07:05.49 | rjp | also, if the author of omen is in here: i love you |
| 07:06.07 | Kalman| | Algebraic vs. integral operations, makes sense, just counter-intuitive. |
| 07:06.24 | Cryect | Kalman|: right when you think about it, it makes sense |
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| 07:06.45 | Cryect | and it only holds true for large n normally though :-p |
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| 07:07.11 | Cryect | rjp, now tell the sanity bags author you hate him |
| 07:07.19 | krka | Think about it seriously, you know, it makes sense |
| 07:07.31 | rjp | Cryect, why? |
| 07:07.37 | Kalman| | Just do it. :p |
| 07:07.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Cryect: i know i do. >.> |
| 07:07.58 | Antiarc | You guys just want me to cry. What do I look like, a mage? Get yer damn water elsewhere! |
| 07:08.25 | Cryect | I was hoping you could try sapping that boss |
| 07:08.29 | Mellow_ | guys, where should I start if I would like to create an addon? Any advice? |
| 07:08.38 | Cryect | wowwiki |
| 07:08.43 | Kalman| | Mellow_: Depends on what you want the addon to do. |
| 07:08.43 | Antiarc | Mellow_: Start with the UI Beginner's Guide on Wowwiki |
| 07:09.22 | Mellow_ | Kalman|: like vitalwatch(when you get aggro, it would be alert the others) |
| 07:09.34 | Cryect | I wonder how many people could put Frequency data to good use |
| 07:09.45 | theoddone33 | quartz shows swing timers and some cooldowns |
| 07:09.53 | theoddone33 | for whoever asked like an hour ago |
| 07:09.56 | Recluse | you know, I code for a living, but this LUA gives me nightmares |
| 07:09.56 | krka | Recluse: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 07:10.05 | Wobwork | Like Ace =) |
| 07:10.08 | Antiarc | Recluse: What specifically? |
| 07:10.26 | Antiarc | They should have called it LINA |
| 07:10.28 | Cryect | well its not as elegant as LOLCODE |
| 07:10.28 | Recluse | just the entire language lol |
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| 07:10.34 | rjp | Antiarc, i think i might love you, too. i just read the description for sanity inventory |
| 07:10.35 | Wobwork | Actually, lua is beatifically simple (at least our implementation of it) after working on code all day |
| 07:10.38 | Antiarc | (LINKS is not an acronym) |
| 07:10.43 | Antiarc | Err |
| 07:10.46 | Antiarc | LINE |
| 07:10.52 | theoddone33 | lua is a blessing and a curse |
| 07:10.53 | Antiarc | And I agree with Wobwork |
| 07:10.53 | Cryect | LINA |
| 07:10.58 | Antiarc | WTF |
| 07:11.00 | Antiarc | brb boffee |
| 07:11.03 | Antiarc | COFFEE, DAMMIT |
| 07:11.06 | Cryect | haha |
| 07:11.06 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 07:11.09 | Kalman| | So, think about what functions that addon is going to touch (chat, target information); look at addons that might use similar functions, and at the sections of the API that handle those functions. |
| 07:11.11 | Wobwork | poor antiarc =) |
| 07:11.28 | Antiarc | I hereby charge you to automatically and with great prejudice roll back any commits I make in the next 4 hours |
| 07:11.32 | Antiarc | Because you can be damn sure they won't work. |
| 07:11.48 | Kalman| | Antiarc: And this is different from the commits you were making 8 hours ago how? ;) |
| 07:11.51 | Recluse | i guess it's just having to know so many different languages |
| 07:12.08 | Mellow_ | thanks Kalman|, first I will read the wowwiki tutorial, and after I will check what you said |
| 07:12.20 | Kalman| | Mellow_: How much coding experience do you have? |
| 07:12.30 | Fisker- | Lua is an acronym for Look it Up Asshole |
| 07:12.32 | Mellow_ | in lua? about 0 years :p |
| 07:12.37 | rjp | Antiarc, it has become a minigame in my guild to see who shows up to the raid with the most up to date version |
| 07:12.40 | Recluse | Fisker-: lol |
| 07:12.43 | Cryect | no in any language |
| 07:12.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok. |
| 07:12.49 | Kalman| | In general; Lua isn't really that hard to learn. |
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| 07:12.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o SunTiger] by ChanServ |
| 07:13.01 | ZealotOnAStick | I officially now have to get a picture of chibi japanese pirate hitler for an avatar. |
| 07:13.10 | Recluse | haha |
| 07:13.19 | Cryect | wtf at this video Antiarc linked |
| 07:13.24 | Fisker- | sounds like, uhm fun |
| 07:13.32 | Punkie` | Kalman|: It's like most, if the API and things are not up to date then you can get stuck really fast |
| 07:13.36 | Cryect | by chibi japanese pirate hitler you mean that second kid? :-p |
| 07:14.01 | Antiarc | Chibi japanese pirate hitler is awesome |
| 07:14.17 | ZealotOnAStick | The one with the red pointy stocking-cap sorta hat with the little hitler stache |
| 07:14.21 | Mellow_ | hm like 8 years in c/perl/python, not a job, just for fun (most of these were web parser) |
| 07:14.34 | Antiarc | Mellow_: You'll be fine, especially with the python experience |
| 07:14.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 07:14.56 | Mellow_ | what do i benefit from python? |
| 07:14.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Out of curiosity . . . |
| 07:15.13 | Antiarc | Mellow_: Mostly the understanding of Python's object model and how it passes self around and all that |
| 07:15.14 | ZealotOnAStick | ~google chibi japanese pirate hitler |
| 07:15.16 | Mellow_ | to be honest, python wasnt my favorite lang :o) |
| 07:15.25 | rjp | Is it a WoW issue when you login in the middle of a raid and the game freezes? or addons? Many in our guild are pointing the finger at agUF as the cause of this |
| 07:15.28 | Antiarc | Lua does that, except cleaner, and knowing how Python does it should make that particular concept easier in Lua |
| 07:16.10 | Cryect | Little Japanese kids sure have high pitched voices |
| 07:16.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. Nothing pertinent. I did get hits for chibi hentai and chibi loli, though. |
| 07:16.31 | Mellow_ | One more question: how do you test a newaddon? Disable every other addon and login? |
| 07:16.34 | Kalman| | Having two minimaps up at the same time makes weird things happen, right? |
| 07:17.03 | Antiarc | Mellow_: You can just execute a "/console reloadui" after you make changes |
| 07:17.08 | ZealotOnAStick | rjp: tell them to update. |
| 07:17.17 | ZealotOnAStick | and it's a Blizzard problem. |
| 07:17.19 | Kalman| | Unless you added new files, in which case you need to do a full game exit and reload. |
| 07:17.32 | rjp | ZealotOnAStick, update what, though? |
| 07:17.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Mellow_: yeah, it helps to disable as many otehr addons as you can, for faster reloads, and so you know nothing else is messing with your functionality |
| 07:17.39 | Antiarc | Unitframes |
| 07:17.59 | rjp | oh, I think most people have been updated, it hits almost everyone who disconnects during a raid |
| 07:18.07 | NightHawkTheSane | (of course, later you want to test -with- addons, to make sure that nothing conflicts, but..) |
| 07:18.10 | rjp | our solution has just been to boot them until they are back online |
| 07:18.14 | Xuerian | ZealotOnAStick: There was something on 4chan recently I think that fit that bill |
| 07:18.31 | Punkie` | http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot061307212652hy0.jpg <- owns |
| 07:18.59 | Cryect | what exactly does that own? |
| 07:19.00 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 07:19.06 | Punkie` | his computer |
| 07:19.07 | Cryect | besides a ton of empty buttons |
| 07:19.13 | Xuerian | Yeah that |
| 07:19.32 | Antiarc | Check out that ram usage |
| 07:19.41 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 07:19.49 | Punkie` | I wonder how a level 12 needs all that addon info |
| 07:19.50 | rjp | Antiarc, is Sanity2 best used with a mod to group bags? I've got it loaded and it looks like it would complement OneBag, not replace |
| 07:20.08 | Xuerian | The macros are funny though |
| 07:20.12 | Antiarc | Correct - it's a complement, not a replacement for bag mods |
| 07:20.20 | Antiarc | SanityBags is a bag replacement, but it's unfinished |
| 07:20.40 | Cryect | by unfinished he means it has major bugs |
| 07:20.40 | Punkie` | Xuerian: lol |
| 07:20.50 | rjp | Antiarc, looks good so far. OneView doesn't seem to work properly for viewing banks on other characters |
| 07:21.04 | Cryect | heh they sure list some interesting bugs in the EJ thread |
| 07:21.14 | Antiarc | which EJ threat? |
| 07:21.15 | Punkie` | and whatever that GTFO! is in his fubar |
| 07:21.21 | Cryect | the Sanity Bags one |
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| 07:21.24 | Antiarc | That's the KTM fubar plugin |
| 07:21.25 | Punkie` | rjp: delete your saved variables |
| 07:21.33 | Punkie` | is it? haha |
| 07:21.53 | ZealotOnAStick | rjp: agUF |
| 07:25.12 | Kalman| | Hm. A frame set to strata background, level 0 should be click-through, or am I misunderstanding? |
| 07:25.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, i need to get msbt to show incoming pet damage |
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| 07:26.46 | rjp | is anyone familiar with CooldownTimers2 configuration? |
| 07:27.03 | Punkie` | i use it |
| 07:27.27 | Punkie` | but i have to go to work so will be back in about 15 mins |
| 07:27.53 | rjp | Do you know how to add abilities and items to a group? or even just manipulate stuff. I want to make frost and fire wards show as just one item |
| 07:28.06 | Antiarc | I don't know why, but the lolcats just crack me up. |
| 07:28.07 | Antiarc | http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6406/garbage20compactorssl4.jpg |
| 07:28.15 | rjp | let me know when you get there, please. I'll still be fiddling probably |
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| 07:30.17 | xt | Antiarc: you should see our recruitment forum if you like lolcats: http://paparazzi.h4x.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=362 |
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| 07:30.47 | Antiarc | I really really shouldn't like them |
| 07:30.50 | Antiarc | But they're too dumb not to |
| 07:30.55 | Antiarc | http://www.forumopolis.com/showthread.php?t=47004 |
| 07:31.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: seen lolbots? |
| 07:31.20 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 07:31.39 | ZealotOnAStick | xt: whoever runs your site should upgrade to the WoWHead ItemStats. |
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| 07:32.21 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: I know :) |
| 07:32.23 | xt | it's me |
| 07:32.25 | xt | but i'm lazy |
| 07:32.46 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 07:33.17 | Fisker- | i wonder how the fel orcs of outland got to raid AQ40 |
| 07:33.40 | ZealotOnAStick | It was actually really easy to do, once I realized I needed to rename a copy of wowhead.css to itemstats.css. |
| 07:34.01 | xt | i might do it |
| 07:34.03 | xt | later |
| 07:34.04 | xt | :) |
| 07:34.30 | ZealotOnAStick | also, corgan and the other germans who do eqdkp plus can bite me. |
| 07:35.13 | Fisker- | someone is using the armory on itemstats now too :o |
| 07:35.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Not a bad idea, but it'd be really slow. |
| 07:35.56 | ZealotOnAStick | The whole drop and drop rate info would be nifty. |
| 07:36.04 | Antiarc | armory's actually really fast. It's just rendering it that's slow |
| 07:36.06 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I had some fun earlier playing with it checking what it thought would be ugprades for my gear. |
| 07:36.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Some of it made me sad. |
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| 07:40.49 | Boubouille | FISKER_Q : armory > wowhead on some point |
| 07:40.52 | Boubouille | especially itemstats |
| 07:41.14 | Boubouille | mostly because it's fully localized |
| 07:41.28 | nadas | us armory, yes. eu armory, no. :) |
| 07:41.43 | Boubouille | o rly ? |
| 07:41.50 | Aenslaed | not till armory loads quicker |
| 07:41.55 | nadas | eu armory database is missing like a million items |
| 07:42.36 | Aenslaed | seriously put too much effort into making it look pretty but god it runs like crap |
| 07:42.57 | nadas | it's beta |
| 07:44.01 | FISKER_Q | I don't give a shit about localization |
| 07:44.18 | xt | Aenslaed: that's because they chose java as technology |
| 07:44.21 | xt | hehe |
| 07:44.36 | FISKER_Q | and since the Armory has to manually update their items then my bets are on WoWHead |
| 07:44.39 | Boubouille | FISKER_Q : itemstats does |
| 07:44.50 | Boubouille | actually, it was coded by a french guy |
| 07:44.51 | Boubouille | :p |
| 07:44.55 | Boubouille | (From my server !) |
| 07:45.08 | Punkie` | rjp: there is an option to condense or something |
| 07:45.15 | FISKER_Q | then you should feel bad Boubouille |
| 07:45.17 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 07:45.19 | Aenslaed | what was that other site before armory? |
| 07:45.22 | Aenslaed | ctprofiles |
| 07:45.24 | FISKER_Q | PvP mounts have been in the game since release |
| 07:45.35 | Aenslaed | that was good. Loaded fast. Downside was that you had to manually update your profile |
| 07:45.39 | Boubouille | I know, this is why I didn't go berserk about it earlier |
| 07:45.54 | Boubouille | Otherwise I would have posted the screenshots with all the S2 shit |
| 07:46.05 | Boubouille | actually, I'll post a screenshot today, just to annoy you |
| 07:46.26 | Punkie` | still no a2 weaps?! :( |
| 07:46.34 | FISKER_Q | already know how they look |
| 07:46.35 | Boubouille | nop |
| 07:46.40 | Boubouille | FISKER_Q : o rly , |
| 07:46.42 | FISKER_Q | ya rly |
| 07:46.54 | Boubouille | AND HOW MAY I ASK |
| 07:46.56 | FISKER_Q | well the hawkstrider in any case :P |
| 07:47.00 | FISKER_Q | Can't remember the elekk anymore |
| 07:47.05 | Boubouille | wtf |
| 07:47.10 | Boubouille | I was talking about the arena weapons |
| 07:47.14 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 07:47.16 | FISKER_Q | U |
| 07:47.26 | Punkie` | nyu :( |
| 07:47.38 | Boubouille | and i'll try to get the looks just to annoy you. |
| 07:48.02 | FISKER_Q | If (care) |
| 07:48.02 | Aenslaed | so upseting |
| 07:48.02 | FISKER_Q | { |
| 07:48.05 | FISKER_Q | pvp(); |
| 07:48.05 | FISKER_Q | } |
| 07:48.09 | Boubouille | btw |
| 07:48.16 | Aenslaed | Picked up my t5 helmet today, and my hair is bugged just like my t4 helmet |
| 07:48.19 | Aenslaed | no hair shows :( |
| 07:48.28 | Boubouille | anyone know a good RSS Widget / RSS reader that doesnt eat 91830918 memory ? |
| 07:48.40 | Punkie` | Boubouille: Opera! |
| 07:48.46 | FISKER_Q | 91830918 bytes of memoery? |
| 07:48.51 | FISKER_Q | memory* |
| 07:48.52 | Boubouille | fuck you FISKER_Q. |
| 07:48.53 | ZealotOnAStick | http://staticguild.com/graphics/zoas/avatar/cjph.gif |
| 07:49.03 | FISKER_Q | fuck me indeed |
| 07:49.42 | Punkie` | btw, did you get your wowhead itemstats parser from the eqdkp webbie? |
| 07:50.00 | FISKER_Q | me? |
| 07:50.05 | Punkie` | no |
| 07:50.07 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 07:50.10 | Punkie` | bb |
| 07:50.12 | FISKER_Q | Boubouille got his before it was made for eqdkp |
| 07:50.13 | FISKER_Q | newb |
| 07:50.29 | Punkie` | well the one from the eqdkp webbie doesnt work for me |
| 07:50.29 | FISKER_Q | the eqdkp one used the one Boubouille had though |
| 07:50.55 | Punkie` | apparently php says it has syntax errors or some crap |
| 07:51.37 | FISKER_Q | btw i lol'd Boubouille |
| 07:51.39 | rjp | Punkie`, i discovered condense groups, but it doesn't seem to display cooldowns |
| 07:51.41 | xt | Boubouille: reader.google.com |
| 07:51.45 | rjp | Punkie`, going to relog and see if it works then |
| 07:51.49 | Punkie` | ok |
| 07:52.32 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, someone want to help me out? I've got frame a stuck completely behind frame b, i don't know the name of frame a, and frame b isn't normally moveable, but i know it's name. Anyone got a good way to get at frame a? |
| 07:52.55 | NightHawkTheSane | (oh, and hiding frame be will hide frame a too. :P) |
| 07:53.00 | NightHawkTheSane | s/be/b/ |
| 07:53.49 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: devtools->dtframestack |
| 07:53.57 | Xuerian | or |
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| 07:54.03 | FISKER_Q | purl, oh u |
| 07:54.11 | purl | It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1.. See http://wooledge.org/~greg/uf20041201.png |
| 07:54.11 | Xuerian | iterate through b's children |
| 07:54.12 | FISKER_Q | purl, literal you suck |
| 07:54.12 | purl | "you suck" is "<reply> and very well I might add" |
| 07:54.42 | FISKER_Q | purl, NO U is "<reply> NO U" |
| 07:54.42 | purl | FISKER_Q: okay |
| 07:54.48 | FISKER_Q | purl, NO U |
| 07:55.19 | rjp | Punkie`, yeah, need to log out and back in for collapse groups to work |
| 07:55.25 | nymbia | ~literal u |
| 07:55.25 | purl | "u" is ""<reply> NO U"" |
| 07:55.30 | nymbia | pwnt |
| 07:55.32 | Xuerian | FISKER_Q: Purl doesn't like to play with you. |
| 07:55.34 | FISKER_Q | pwnt indeed |
| 07:56.01 | FISKER_Q | purl, "NO U" is "<reply> NO U" |
| 07:56.02 | purl | FISKER_Q: what are you talking about? |
| 07:56.05 | FISKER_Q | qq |
| 07:56.09 | FISKER_Q | i hate you purl |
| 07:56.11 | nymbia | rofl |
| 07:56.16 | Xuerian | no purl, NO U is <reply> NO U |
| 07:56.30 | FISKER_Q | bot overload Xuerian |
| 07:56.32 | Punkie` | rjp: a /rl would probably work too |
| 07:57.22 | FISKER_Q | purl, forget u |
| 07:57.22 | purl | i forgot u, FISKER_Q |
| 07:57.38 | FISKER_Q | purl NO U is <reply> NO U |
| 07:57.39 | purl | FISKER_Q: okay |
| 07:57.43 | FISKER_Q | purl, no u |
| 07:57.49 | FISKER_Q | purl, NO U |
| 07:57.56 | rjp | Punkie`, yeah, i guess, but i had already logged out to arrange the bars on an alt |
| 07:57.58 | FISKER_Q | purl, literal u |
| 07:57.59 | purl | "u" is "<reply> NO U" |
| 07:58.11 | FISKER_Q | purl NO NO U is <reply> NO U |
| 07:58.11 | purl | i already had it that way, FISKER_Q |
| 07:58.18 | ZealotOnAStick | http://staticguild.com/graphics/zoas/avatar/cjph.gif |
| 07:58.24 | FISKER_Q | purl, NO NO U is <reply> NO U |
| 07:58.24 | purl | i already had it that way, FISKER_Q |
| 07:58.27 | FISKER_Q | purl, NO NO NO U is <reply> NO U |
| 07:58.28 | purl | FISKER_Q: okay |
| 07:58.33 | FISKER_Q | purl, NO U |
| 07:58.33 | purl | NO U |
| 07:58.36 | FISKER_Q | HAHAHA |
| 07:58.44 | FISKER_Q | i win |
| 07:58.46 | Aenslaed | oh god, a perlbot |
| 07:58.55 | Aenslaed | purl, botsnack |
| 07:58.55 | purl | Aenslaed: :) |
| 07:59.07 | nymbia | FISKER_Q: rofl |
| 07:59.48 | FISKER_Q | btw nymbia i want U to make pt3bar sort stuff after zone |
| 07:59.48 | FISKER_Q | :o |
| 08:00.16 | nymbia | ugh |
| 08:00.21 | nymbia | that'd be horrible |
| 08:00.34 | FISKER_Q | indeed |
| 08:00.42 | nymbia | maybe if blizzy makes it gray out when you're not in the zone it can be used in |
| 08:01.00 | FISKER_Q | someone tell slouken to get on it then :O |
| 08:01.32 | rjp | Does anyone know of an Ace addon to show the autoshot timer / swing timer? |
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| 08:01.39 | nymbia | ~NO U |
| 08:01.40 | purl | NO U |
| 08:01.40 | rjp | doesn't look like Cooldown Timers 2 can do it |
| 08:02.02 | rjp | "you suck" |
| 08:02.04 | Kalman| | rjp: BigTrouble, I think? |
| 08:02.12 | Kalman| | Quartz does too, iirc. |
| 08:02.54 | Kalman| | OK, is there something special about minimap cluster that I can't seem to make it a non-interactable frame? |
| 08:03.34 | Antiarc | Kalman|: There's like a billion frames there |
| 08:03.35 | nymbia | Kalman|: maybe something's :EnableMouse()'ing it OnUpdate? |
| 08:03.57 | Elkano | did the svn just die? |
| 08:04.06 | Kalman| | Antiarc: They should all be children of Cluster, though, and inherit the settings down from that, I thought. |
| 08:04.08 | ZealotOnAStick | rkp: LittleTrouble for an autoshot timer |
| 08:04.23 | ZealotOnAStick | s/rkp/rjp/ |
| 08:04.34 | Kalman| | nymbia: Very possible. |
| 08:04.45 | Antiarc | Kalman|: They should inherit things like scale and positioning and stuff, but things like EnableMouse are per-frame, IIRC. |
| 08:05.44 | rjp | Well, I just got BigTrouble and it seems to not be movable from the center of my screen.... |
| 08:06.50 | Morghus | Antiarc: Did you plan on making a module for sending info to KTM? |
| 08:07.02 | Antiarc | Morghus: Eventually. Adirelle is working on a standalone though |
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| 08:07.26 | ZealotOnAStick | honestly, KTM can rot in digital hell. |
| 08:07.29 | Morghus | Good luck Adirelle \o/ |
| 08:07.32 | rjp | agreed |
| 08:07.46 | rjp | It's funny when you have KTM data enabled and it's just.... wrong |
| 08:08.01 | ZealotOnAStick | so, has Kenco done anything with his slate of "Awesome new ideas" for KTM? |
| 08:08.27 | Elkano | Morghus, if we manage to make KTM show ads for Omen maybe ;) |
| 08:08.31 | Morghus | He's probably still having a hissyfit that someone is stepping in his "threatmeter-territory" |
| 08:08.56 | nymbia | did he ever post anything about that? |
| 08:09.01 | nymbia | i havent been watching |
| 08:09.11 | Elkano | "I have had an awsome new idea for KTM so I went ahead and coded it. KTM will now use Threat-1.0" ;) |
| 08:09.30 | Morghus | Elkano: Unlikely XD |
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| 08:10.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: he'd still find a way to poll on every damn frame. |
| 08:10.03 | Antiarc | He's actually been rather quiet about it all. |
| 08:10.09 | Aenslaed | I find that KTM and Threat dont really have a place in TBC 25 man raiding |
| 08:10.19 | Aenslaed | too many fights with a threat wipe |
| 08:10.22 | NightHawkTheSane | "I better make sure and see if Threat-1.0's still there, POLLING FTW!" |
| 08:10.25 | Aenslaed | gone are the drakes in BWL |
| 08:10.31 | rjp | NightHawkTheSane, I don't know, that's one feature omen is missing. If your gear changes from frame to frame, it might not be 100% accurate |
| 08:10.46 | Antiarc | Aenslaed: Well, Threat handles those... |
| 08:10.56 | Antiarc | See the NPC modules |
| 08:10.59 | NightHawkTheSane | rjp: yeah, i know, honestly, I just think Antiarc's slacking |
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| 08:11.16 | rjp | okay, explorer.exe, please restart now |
| 08:11.31 | Antiarc | ctrl-shift-esc |
| 08:11.40 | rjp | does that actually restart it? |
| 08:11.48 | rjp | i ususally just c-a-d and run a new tast |
| 08:11.53 | Aenslaed | Doesn't work properly for hydross, lurker, leo. Not needed for fathomlord, tidewalker, vashj |
| 08:12.09 | Punkie` | Aenslaed: It's beta, duh |
| 08:12.10 | Antiarc | Well, it needs some work ;) |
| 08:12.18 | Antiarc | But, it will handle 'em. |
| 08:12.23 | Kalman| | Eh, I give Kenco a lot of credit for KTM and his threat data in general. |
| 08:12.29 | Aenslaed | al'ar aggro is still a mystery, VR doesn't know how to dump aggro, not needed for solarian, haven't gotten far enough on kael to need it. |
| 08:12.35 | Antiarc | I do too. KTM broke a lot of ground. |
| 08:12.56 | Antiarc | Al'ar's aggro can be modeled relatively closely, VR is a flat 25% reduction |
| 08:13.10 | Aenslaed | Punkie`: well, threat and KTM are both equally useless for all these |
| 08:13.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ill give him all the credit in the world for the threat data. i'm sure a lot of work went into that |
| 08:13.58 | Punkie` | Aenslaed: Not useless, it just needs tuning! |
| 08:14.01 | Aenslaed | like, KTM was great for gruul. I pushed hard for my guild to start using it for that fight. But instead of gruul being the benchmark, it ended up being the exception |
| 08:14.19 | rjp | gruul was when we started using KTM, too |
| 08:14.20 | Antiarc | *shrug* you don't have to use or like it. |
| 08:14.26 | rjp | and i was always "bah, threat meters"' |
| 08:14.37 | rjp | and with ktm slowing everything down i was like "bah, threat meters" |
| 08:14.39 | Aenslaed | i'm just saying, KTM was great in BWL where everything was a tank and spank on a single target. |
| 08:14.44 | Health | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=otmrozz6upvco&s=3252-3674 - I rocked GRUUL |
| 08:14.48 | rjp | and then we switched to omen, and then one day the bars were animated :o |
| 08:15.02 | *** part/#wowace Recluse (i=john@adsl-71-145-141-218.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:15.41 | Punkie` | Health: 663 dps from your top rogue? pff |
| 08:15.59 | Aenslaed | and virtually nothing in TBC 25man content has been a tank and spank that a warrior couldn't handle. |
| 08:17.11 | Health | Punkie`: We're a very casual guild ;p |
| 08:17.19 | Fisker- | did it work nymbia? |
| 08:17.20 | Kalman| | I hate that I have to have lossendil host it for the "good" reports. :/ |
| 08:17.50 | Elkano | oh, CIA died again :/ |
| 08:17.57 | Cryect | Kalman|: Think I figured out how I can do filled graphs |
| 08:18.22 | Kalman| | Cryect: How? |
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| 08:18.43 | Punkie` | Need 3d - exploded pie! |
| 08:18.51 | [Ammo] | urgh bloated pie :p |
| 08:19.02 | Kalman| | Punkie`: Nah, that's just eye candy, but a stacked area graph is a good method to show contributions to a whole. |
| 08:19.05 | Elkano | hmm... linear or sine alpha flashing, what's better? |
| 08:19.13 | [Ammo] | sine |
| 08:19.15 | Elkano | s /sine/sin/ |
| 08:19.32 | [Ammo] | it looks much smoother |
| 08:19.33 | Cryect | Requires 2 textures per line but its just a rectangle then with a texture on top that has a triangle texture since thats all each line really is |
| 08:19.48 | Cryect | not sure why I hadn't bothered thinking of doing it that way before |
| 08:19.49 | Kalman| | Sine's correct, sin is an abbreviation of sine. |
| 08:20.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalman|: yeah, its kind of a shame you cant just grab the wws source and do it all on your own damn server |
| 08:20.14 | Elkano | ok, now for a good formular ^^ currently :SetAlpha((1-math.cos(timeleft*2))*0.375+0.25) |
| 08:20.29 | Kalman| | I know he's trying to make money, but I'd rather not put up with his bandwidth issues when I have perfectly good server space I already pay for. |
| 08:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i think its just silly trying to make money off of it, but *shrug* |
| 08:21.35 | [Ammo] | Elkano: remember to cache the values with intelligent use of metatable magic |
| 08:21.41 | [Ammo] | cpu efficient :p |
| 08:21.52 | Kalman| | Well, I agree, but I understand his goal. |
| 08:24.10 | rjp | Kalman|, how do i view the fancy graphs from wws? i don't see any links to it on the data you linked |
| 08:24.33 | Kalman| | Er. I didn't link any WWS data... |
| 08:24.50 | rjp | OOHHHHHH had you confused with Health.... |
| 08:25.09 | rjp | but you were mentioning the fancy graphs |
| 08:25.17 | rjp | so that's why I was confused |
| 08:25.30 | Kalman| | Oh, those graphs are from Recount, not WWS. |
| 08:25.38 | Elkano | ammo, problem is that timeleft has 4 digits behind periode or so :/ |
| 08:25.42 | rjp | ah |
| 08:25.47 | rjp | i'm all kinds of confused. |
| 08:26.21 | [Ammo] | Elkano: round it |
| 08:26.24 | [Ammo] | no-one will notice |
| 08:26.24 | NeoTron | ah lurker below |
| 08:26.29 | [Ammo] | I round them for candybar gradients |
| 08:26.31 | [Ammo] | no-one has complained yet |
| 08:26.33 | NeoTron | people can't jump away from the beam ftl |
| 08:26.36 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 08:26.52 | [Ammo] | but it might be harder for timeleft yeah |
| 08:27.03 | [Ammo] | I slap the gradients for candybar into 1 2 3 ... 99 100 |
| 08:27.12 | Elkano | ammo, I know ^^ |
| 08:27.29 | rjp | ZealotOnAStick, how do you move LittleTrouble? |
| 08:28.54 | ZealotOnAStick | no clue, never used it. Did you try alt-drag, ctrl-drag, etc? or /littletrouble lock? |
| 08:29.14 | Morghus | LittleTrouble? Oo |
| 08:29.46 | ZealotOnAStick | If those don't look, go open the lua file and see what slash commands there are. |
| 08:29.48 | rjp | ZealotOnAStick, tried them all, /littletrouble gave me a bad command message |
| 08:29.52 | rjp | yeah, i was gonna check lua next |
| 08:30.05 | ZealotOnAStick | s/look/work/ |
| 08:31.10 | rjp | ah, ltrouble |
| 08:31.59 | ZealotOnAStick | lemme know when you figure it out, I'm sure someone will end up asking me again sometime. |
| 08:32.07 | rjp | i did, /ltrouble lock |
| 08:32.19 | rjp | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.35 | rjp | and now it is time for my hunter to accrue more restxp and for me to accrue more rest |
| 08:32.39 | rjp | goodnight, and thanks for all the help |
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| 08:33.49 | Morghus | rjp: What's LittleTrouble? =) |
| 08:34.32 | Kalman| | Morghus: Hunter autoshot timer, I beleive. |
| 08:35.14 | Morghus | Isn't that BigTrouble? Oo |
| 08:36.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Big is Aimed and Auto |
| 08:36.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Little is just Auto |
| 08:36.52 | Kalman| | I.E. all you need in TBC. |
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| 08:40.45 | Elkano | ammo, is there a pi in math? |
| 08:41.01 | nymbia | math.pi? |
| 08:41.19 | Shirik | ya math.pi |
| 08:41.34 | nymbia | in other news |
| 08:41.38 | nymbia | who broke the svn |
| 08:41.57 | Silviu- | Works |
| 08:41.59 | Silviu- | Only Cia no |
| 08:42.00 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 08:42.19 | nymbia | well, this commit taking 8 minutes says otherwise :( |
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| 08:43.12 | nymbia | ooh there it went |
| 08:43.26 | Silviu- | 39839 ? |
| 08:44.11 | Elkano | lua> math.pi |
| 08:44.11 | clad|sleep | Elkano:lua> 3.1415926535898 |
| 08:44.23 | Shirik | bah clad|sleep's here too |
| 08:45.03 | nymbia | odang, a lua bot that's up all day! <3 |
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| 08:45.29 | Elkano | lua> cos(math.pi) |
| 08:45.29 | clad|sleep | Elkano:lua> -1, |
| 08:45.36 | krka | lua> error() |
| 08:45.37 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> nil |
| 08:45.42 | krka | lua> error("hello") |
| 08:45.42 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> [string " error("hello")"]:1: hello |
| 08:46.52 | Elkano | hmm... lua> string.cat(string.cat("...",100),100) |
| 08:47.33 | nymbia | ow |
| 08:47.58 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 08:48.00 | krka | lua> local a,b=0,0 return a/b |
| 08:48.00 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> nan |
| 08:48.06 | Fisker- | then i can make my addon :< |
| 08:48.15 | Loki|muh | Elkano: got a new machine for gaming yet? |
| 08:48.36 | krka | lua> function a() a() end a() |
| 08:48.36 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> /Users/jnwhiteh/bin/runlua.lua:141: stack overflow |
| 08:48.47 | Health | pwnd! |
| 08:48.59 | krka | nice, mr jnwhiteh |
| 08:49.18 | Health | Make a loop of loops! |
| 08:49.26 | Health | that implodes! |
| 08:49.32 | Elkano | Loki|muh, no, my old one ^^ |
| 08:49.35 | nymbia | i'll loop your loop! |
| 08:49.51 | Loki|muh | Elkano: its working again? |
| 08:50.22 | Elkano | yeah |
| 08:50.43 | Loki|muh | yay, gz :) |
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| 08:51.07 | nymbia | lua> print('a') |
| 08:51.08 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> a |
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| 08:51.39 | nymbia | lua> print('a\na') |
| 08:51.39 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> a a |
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| 08:52.22 | ckknight | lua> error({}) |
| 08:52.22 | clad|sleep | ckknight:lua> { } (#1) |
| 08:52.25 | Shirik | krka: clad|sleep's bot still falls to the same problem |
| 08:52.33 | Shirik | as all Lua interpreters right now |
| 08:52.41 | Shirik | stack overflow in recursive coroutines |
| 08:52.42 | ckknight | what's that problem? |
| 08:52.45 | Elkano | >lua print('*\10*\11*') |
| 08:53.00 | Elkano | lua> print('*\10*\11*') |
| 08:53.00 | Shirik | but since clad|sleep spawns a new Lua instance each time |
| 08:53.00 | clad|sleep | Elkano:lua> * ** |
| 08:53.00 | ckknight | Elkano: lua> |
| 08:53.04 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:53.05 | Shirik | it won't cause any permanent problem |
| 08:53.08 | Shirik | just a SIGSEGV |
| 08:54.55 | krka | lua> function a() pcall(a) end a() |
| 08:54.56 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> No output |
| 08:55.04 | Health | One should write a lua VM in Java |
| 08:55.15 | krka | lua> pcall(function() print"Hello world" end) |
| 08:55.15 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> Hello world |
| 08:55.15 | Health | good idea krka, huh? |
| 08:55.19 | krka | yes! |
| 08:55.29 | ckknight | already happened, didn't it? |
| 08:55.44 | krka | lua> function a() pcall(a) print("hello world") end a() |
| 08:55.45 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello world, hello wo... (result truncated) |
| 08:55.49 | Shirik | nice try krka |
| 08:56.07 | krka | i thought so |
| 08:56.12 | krka | why didnt it overflow or something |
| 08:56.16 | Shirik | it did |
| 08:56.18 | Shirik | but it was caught |
| 08:56.21 | krka | lua> function a() return pcall(a) end a() |
| 08:56.22 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> No output |
| 08:56.28 | krka | lua> function a() return pcall(a) end return a() |
| 08:56.28 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, tru... (result truncated) |
| 08:56.30 | Health | Yes, krka made a VM! |
| 08:56.42 | Health | Thanks for spamming the channel r-tard! |
| 08:56.43 | Shirik | lua> x = 0; function a() pcall(a) x = x + 1; end a() print(x) |
| 08:56.44 | clad|sleep | Shirik:lua> 196 |
| 08:56.46 | Health | I better go slap you! |
| 08:56.48 | Shirik | there ya go |
| 08:56.56 | krka | i see |
| 08:57.00 | nymbia | lua> local str = '' function a() pcall(a) str = str .. "hello world") end a() print str:len() |
| 08:57.00 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> Compilation failed: [string " local str = '' function a() pcall(a) str = str .. "hello world..."]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 08:57.02 | Shirik | 196 stack frames before you cause a stack overflow |
| 08:57.18 | nymbia | lua> local str = '' function a() pcall(a) str = str .. "hello world") end a() print(str:len()) |
| 08:57.18 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> Compilation failed: [string " local str = '' function a() pcall(a) str = str .. "hello world..."]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 08:57.37 | krka | lua> function a() return coroutine.resume(coroutine.create(a)) end a() |
| 08:57.37 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> /Users/jnwhiteh/bin/runlua.lua:190: bad argument #2 to 'sethook' (string expected, got function) |
| 08:57.38 | nymbia | sure signs it's time to go to sleep.. |
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| 08:58.03 | krka | fun stuff! |
| 08:58.05 | nymbia | lua> local str = '' function a() pcall(a) str = str .. "hello world" end a() print(str:len()) |
| 08:58.06 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> 2156 |
| 08:58.09 | nymbia | lua> local str = '' function a() pcall(a) str = str .. "hello world" end a() print(str:len()) |
| 08:58.09 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> 2156 |
| 08:58.36 | nymbia | lua> local str = '' function a() pcall(a) str = str .. "." end a() print(str:len()) |
| 08:58.36 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> 196 |
| 08:58.38 | Fisker- | omg |
| 08:58.41 | Fisker- | stop lua'ing |
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| 08:58.53 | Fisker- | lua> nil |
| 08:58.53 | Shirik | better than if they were to be lolcoding :P |
| 08:58.54 | clad|sleep | Fisker-:lua> nil |
| 08:58.57 | Fisker- | kthx |
| 08:59.05 | krka | lua> |
| 08:59.06 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> No output |
| 08:59.11 | nymbia | lua> print('Fisker- is bad') |
| 08:59.11 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> Fisker- is bad |
| 09:00.02 | Fisker- | lua> print('Nymbia sucks') |
| 09:00.03 | clad|sleep | Fisker-:lua> Nymbia sucks |
| 09:00.04 | Fisker- | haha |
| 09:01.13 | nymbia | lua> local str = '' function a() a() str = str .. "." end a() print(str:len()) |
| 09:01.13 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> /Users/jnwhiteh/bin/runlua.lua:141: stack overflow |
| 09:02.13 | krka | lua>_G |
| 09:02.14 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> { ["log"] = function: 0x3037e0, ["wow"] = { ["strconcat"] = function: 0x3044c0, ["strtrim"] = function: 0x304400, ["strsplit"] = function: 0x304440, ["getglobal"] = function: 0x304500, ["strjoin"] = function: 0x304480, ["debugstack"] = function: 0x304580,... (result truncated) |
| 09:02.33 | krka | lua> for k in next,_G do print(k) end |
| 09:02.33 | clad|sleep | krka:lua> log, wow, tostring, getn, gmatch, os, format, getfenv, randomseed, pairs, max, assert, tonumber, strsplit, load, atan, _G, foreach, strchar, cos, coroutine, ceil, strupper, copyTable, asin, loadstring, tinsert, sin, error, debug, string, xpcall, tan, date... (result truncated) |
| 09:02.40 | Fisker- | but nymbia make my addon :< |
| 09:03.37 | nymbia | Fisker-: one of these days ;) |
| 09:03.44 | nymbia | lua> wow |
| 09:03.44 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> { ["strconcat"] = function: 0x3044c0, ["strtrim"] = function: 0x304400, ["strsplit"] = function: 0x304440, ["getglobal"] = function: 0x304500, ["strjoin"] = function: 0x304480, ["debugstack"] = function: 0x304580, ["setglobal"] = function: 0x304540 } (#1)... (result truncated) |
| 09:04.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I believe this calls it time for me to get some sleep. |
| 09:04.29 | ckknight | what's strconcat? |
| 09:04.51 | xt | usually it is to join strings? |
| 09:04.54 | nymbia | lua> strconcat('123', '789') |
| 09:04.54 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> 123789, |
| 09:04.54 | xt | concatenate |
| 09:04.55 | ZealotOnAStick | of someone sees vhaarr soonish, poke him for me and tell him "NRT progress plz!" |
| 09:05.08 | _dRiN_ | 'bla' + 'bla' = 'blabla' : ) |
| 09:05.27 | _dRiN_ | not even sure if it works that way in lua so nvmd me :D |
| 09:05.48 | nymbia | dunno why you'd want a global func for it, but that's blizzy for ya |
| 09:06.17 | ckknight | why not use '123' .. '789'? |
| 09:06.25 | nymbia | good question. |
| 09:06.27 | Fisker- | lua> strongcat is strooooooooooooooooooooong |
| 09:06.27 | clad|sleep | Fisker-:lua> Compilation failed: [string " strongcat is strooooooooooooooooooooong"]:1: '=' expected near 'is' |
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| 09:06.46 | ckknight | Fisker-: use =, not is |
| 09:06.51 | nymbia | lua> select('#', strconcat('123', '789')) |
| 09:06.51 | clad|sleep | nymbia:lua> 1, |
| 09:07.14 | Health | Hej krka |
| 09:07.24 | krka | k |
| 09:07.35 | Health | How did the bike ride go today? |
| 09:07.37 | Fisker- | lua> strongcat = strooooooooooooooooooooong |
| 09:07.38 | clad|sleep | Fisker-:lua> No output |
| 09:07.42 | Fisker- | waah |
| 09:07.47 | krka | i took the train! |
| 09:07.51 | krka | it looked cold |
| 09:08.20 | Health | you are looked coold |
| 09:08.25 | krka | i'm considering selling my train card though... i rarely use it so it would probably be cheaper to just pay each time |
| 09:08.40 | krka | you are grammar failed |
| 09:08.53 | Health | you are aare grammar failed |
| 09:09.08 | krka | touché |
| 09:09.16 | Health | nice utf8! |
| 09:13.42 | Firik | is there an event that's triggered when someone in your party/raid has been resurrected? |
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| 09:30.49 | vhaarr | Firik: If oRA2 is available, it fires some events related to ressurection. |
| 09:31.19 | vhaarr | Other than that, you only get an event for yourself, RESSURECT_REQUEST or something. |
| 09:32.09 | Ani| | is there a string lenth limit on buttons? anyone knows? :> |
| 09:36.10 | [Ammo] | Firik: the only reliable way is to check the static popups |
| 09:36.11 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 09:36.13 | [Ammo] | which is what oRA2 does |
| 09:36.22 | [Ammo] | check the Participant/Resurrection module |
| 09:37.17 | xt | anyone know what causes people to not have the ressurection screen popup ? |
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| 09:37.35 | xt | the regular blizzard one doesnt popup for everyone |
| 09:37.38 | xt | when they get ressed |
| 09:37.42 | Shirik | a bug |
| 09:37.46 | Shirik | it's not any addon's fault |
| 09:38.16 | xt | k |
| 09:42.41 | Diao | hm |
| 09:42.54 | Diao | does anyone know what exactly the "friendly fire" option in recount is? |
| 09:43.11 | Diao | seems to be a damage tracker but it's different from damage done o_O |
| 09:43.13 | Shirik | when a friendly hits you |
| 09:43.21 | Shirik | perhaps? |
| 09:43.37 | Shirik | either (1) by an explosion debuff or (2) when MCed |
| 09:43.39 | Diao | not that either |
| 09:43.49 | Diao | i did quests with a friend today |
| 09:43.59 | Diao | and in 2 hours it said i did 500k damage and 60k "friendly fire" |
| 09:44.14 | Diao | but i didn't damage her in any way |
| 09:44.27 | Diao | and the details say the top 3 targets i did damage to were mobs |
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| 09:59.36 | ckknight | beat that |
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| 10:03.58 | vhaarr | Elkano: SpyGnome was written when Tablet-2.0 had a limit to the number of columns you could have, feel free to patch it to remove that limit now that Tablet-2.0 supports unlimited columns. |
| 10:04.20 | Elkano | vhaarr, I know ^^ |
| 10:04.38 | Elkano | and why was the limit on group put in there? |
| 10:04.46 | vhaarr | what limit? |
| 10:05.26 | Elkano | oh, GROUP ~= PARTY ^^' |
| 10:05.52 | vhaarr | I don't understand. |
| 10:06.25 | Elkano | I just didn't, too |
| 10:06.31 | vhaarr | It does group/raid now, if you want to put in a Guild mode, you can do that. |
| 10:06.39 | Elkano | just noticed group will work with raid, too |
| 10:06.45 | vhaarr | indeed it will |
| 10:07.00 | Elkano | since group isn't party |
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| 10:29.23 | ckknight | wondering why my commits haven't gone through, and it's just that CIA isn't in the room |
| 10:35.24 | Firik | frames which inherit from SecureActionButtonTemplate behave different on a SetPoint call then frames without? |
| 10:35.41 | ckknight | yes |
| 10:35.55 | ckknight | they force whatever they're :SetPoint'd to to be secure as well |
| 10:36.41 | Firik | ah and else the setpoint failes I guess? |
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| 10:41.22 | Firik | how can you find out if a frame is secure? |
| 10:42.27 | JoshBorke | did you check issecurevariable? or whatever it is? |
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| 10:50.28 | ckknight | JoshBorke: no, that's not it, it's a method on the frame, I believe |
| 10:51.37 | cladhaire | Anyone know of a german database where I could get a mapping of quest names from german to english? |
| 10:52.05 | cladhaire | or any locale, really |
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| 10:52.19 | cladhaire | I bet they could be wdb farmed, couldn't they. |
| 10:53.45 | Elkano | I wonder if allakhazam list german names for quests, too. they do for items |
| 10:54.19 | Elkano | but would be hard for them to match quests, wouldn't it |
| 10:54.32 | cladhaire | well i can do it on qid |
| 10:54.36 | cladhaire | i have qid > qname |
| 10:54.51 | cladhaire | just need a way on a german client to generate qid or enUS qname |
| 10:55.00 | Elkano | but qid isn't available ingame, is it? |
| 10:55.16 | cladhaire | no, but i have a qname > qid database |
| 10:55.27 | cladhaire | and vice versa, obviously |
| 10:56.47 | ckknight | I want CIA back :-( |
| 10:56.51 | Elkano | I think buffed.de and allakhazam use the same ids |
| 10:56.57 | cladhaire | Oh be careful what you ask for =) |
| 10:57.12 | cladhaire | CIA-22 came back the other day and spammed #dongle with 30 lightheaded commits. |
| 10:57.13 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 10:57.16 | ckknight | lol. |
| 10:57.34 | ckknight | I'm doing an AceLocale-2.2 commit now |
| 10:57.44 | cladhaire | fun, anything good? |
| 10:57.45 | Elkano | how dare you... ;) |
| 10:58.20 | ckknight | basically, say we're messing with Babble-Boss |
| 10:58.37 | ckknight | and a new boss turns up, called "Master Shake" |
| 10:58.50 | ckknight | now Elkano hasn't gotten off his ass yet to translate this into German |
| 10:58.59 | ckknight | so BB["Master Shake"] would normally error |
| 10:59.00 | cladhaire | Elkano: Lazy bastard |
| 10:59.12 | ckknight | well, now it will do a fake error through geterrorhandler()("blah") |
| 10:59.18 | ckknight | but still return "Master Shake" |
| 10:59.31 | cladhaire | oh it wouldn't have returned Master Shake before? |
| 10:59.40 | Elkano | why should I care for German client? |
| 10:59.41 | ckknight | which alerts Elkano or one of his Sauerkraut-eating friends to translate it |
| 10:59.50 | kebinusan | heh |
| 10:59.50 | ckknight | as well as not breaking the world |
| 10:59.58 | ckknight | cladhaire: well, before it did a normal error() |
| 11:00.10 | ckknight | which halts the current lua thread |
| 11:00.20 | cladhaire | ah, didn't realize that..woudl have expected what you're doing now, so i guess that's good :P |
| 11:00.28 | ckknight | this is assuming strictness, of course |
| 11:00.31 | ckknight | which Babble uses |
| 11:00.34 | Health | You are a lua thread! |
| 11:00.46 | ckknight | for most (addon) translations, it will fallthrough without error or warning |
| 11:01.06 | ckknight | now for strict translations (like Babble), now it will fallthrough with warning |
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| 11:01.26 | kebinusan | Im sure the germans wills end you a warm beer and a bmw for your efforts |
| 11:01.42 | ckknight | in all honesty, I do want to have a bossfight with Master Shake, Frylock, and Meatwad |
| 11:01.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 11:02.10 | kebinusan | Hand Banana whispers: Tonight. You. |
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| 11:04.01 | ckknight | lol. |
| 11:04.05 | ckknight | I'm just a dog |
| 11:04.17 | ckknight | I only know things like "Ball" and "Good" |
| 11:04.20 | ckknight | ...and "Rape" |
| 11:04.20 | cladhaire | damn, CIA-22 is broken again too =/ |
| 11:04.29 | kebinusan | heheh thats such a great episode |
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| 11:13.07 | SunTiger | why do we break the cia so much |
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| 11:19.35 | ckknight | alright, did another commit to AceLocale to make it more optimized |
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| 11:24.55 | phyber | cladhaire: you aware of any issues with PerfectRaid not showing up if you're party is converted to a raid while you're in combat? |
| 11:25.03 | phyber | s/you're/your/ |
| 11:27.53 | wobin_ | grump |
| 11:28.03 | wobin_ | I'm getting horrible fps |
| 11:33.45 | Firik | lua> local colors = { (1,2,3), (4,5,6) }; print(unpack(colors[0])); |
| 11:34.08 | Firik | :( |
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| 11:44.31 | ckknight | Firik: lua is 1-indexed |
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| 11:44.56 | ckknight | also, tuples aren't described that way, so what you did was equivalent to { 1, 4 } |
| 11:45.51 | Firik | was already afraid of that |
| 11:48.51 | ckknight | lua> local colors = { {1, 2, 3}, {4, 5, 6} }; print(unpack(colors[1])) |
| 11:49.14 | ckknight | clad's gone, though |
| 11:49.17 | ckknight | with his bot |
| 11:50.10 | Firik | but then {1,2,3} is a dictionary and not a tuple, can unpack work on that? |
| 11:50.39 | ckknight | {1, 2, 3} is a list, which is a type of table |
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| 11:50.57 | ckknight | {[1] = true, [2] = true, [3] = true} is a set, which is a type of table |
| 11:51.09 | ckknight | {[1] = 2, [3] = 4} is a dictionary, which is a type of table |
| 11:51.25 | ckknight | due to the way lua works, you can't declare tuples |
| 11:51.30 | ckknight | you can only access and use them |
| 11:51.38 | ckknight | ... is a tuple in lua |
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| 11:56.59 | Firik | from documentation it seems unpack({1,2,3}) will work |
| 11:59.14 | Jaxon | Bag sorting addon: GO |
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| 12:00.45 | phyber | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110631547&sid=1 |
| 12:00.57 | phyber | someone with US posting rights might want to educate people :) |
| 12:01.16 | phyber | Re: *.sh and *.bat files included with some addons. |
| 12:03.00 | Jaxon | She top line in the .sh file should be #!/bin/bash not #1/bin/bash |
| 12:05.03 | Jaxon | Also, fixed that post. |
| 12:05.39 | Stephmw | it really should be #!/bin/sh |
| 12:05.47 | Stephmw | bash isn't available everywhere |
| 12:05.48 | ckknight | or #!/usr/bin/env bash |
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| 12:06.02 | ckknight | depending |
| 12:06.35 | kebinusan | yeah someone could commit a fix |
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| 12:07.06 | Jaxon | Stephmw: the script is going to run on GNU/Linux or OSX and bash is available on BOTH. I know some distributions may ship without bash, but the ones that don't usually means that the user is smart enough to move a folder themselves or edit a shell script. |
| 12:07.38 | cladhaire | should always be sh, not bash |
| 12:07.51 | |Kev| | there's no real reason not to use bash these days |
| 12:08.12 | |Kev| | it's pretty much everywhere |
| 12:08.45 | |Kev| | sadly, zsh isn't :( |
| 12:08.47 | cladhaire | but is sh is sufficient |
| 12:08.49 | cladhaire | why use bash? |
| 12:08.52 | Shirik | bah |
| 12:08.54 | Shirik | cladhaire beat me |
| 12:08.56 | Shirik | I was about to say that >.> |
| 12:08.57 | cladhaire | you absolutely know without a question thatsh exists. |
| 12:09.05 | cladhaire | a msys mingw environment may not contain bash |
| 12:09.08 | cladhaire | but it will absolutely have sh |
| 12:09.09 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 12:09.28 | Shirik | o.O? |
| 12:09.32 | xt | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.34 | |Kev| | mingw does have bash, doesn't it? |
| 12:10.22 | cladhaire | |Kev|: That was my point... |
| 12:10.26 | cladhaire | it migh tnot |
| 12:10.29 | cladhaire | if the package isn't installed |
| 12:10.43 | cladhaire | sh will always be installed |
| 12:10.49 | cladhaire | i dont think there's a single unix package that doesn't contain it. |
| 12:10.56 | |Kev| | although usually sh will be bash ;) |
| 12:10.56 | Jaxon | Okay, now that people are talking, someone shout out an inventory addon with categories. |
| 12:11.10 | kebinusan | cladhaire: well most of the time when you check it out from svn it isnt going to be chmod +x anyway so you'll usually run it /bin/bash blah |
| 12:11.19 | cladhaire | or sh blah.sh |
| 12:11.23 | kebinusan | yea |
| 12:11.26 | cladhaire | i don't run .sh scripts with bash |
| 12:11.26 | |Kev| | but most scripts are a tradeoff between pleasantry to write, and having deployment everywhere |
| 12:11.28 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.31 | cladhaire | because, .sh is a /bin/sh script. |
| 12:11.42 | cladhaire | |Kev|: Do the scripts use anything bash specific? |
| 12:11.44 | |Kev| | on lots of (Linux) distros, /bin/sh is bash itself |
| 12:11.52 | cladhaire | and Linux sucks |
| 12:11.55 | cladhaire | again |
| 12:11.59 | cladhaire | are you using anything bash specific |
| 12:12.02 | cladhaire | if not, it shouldn't be bash. |
| 12:12.06 | |Kev| | me? I'm not writing a script |
| 12:12.10 | Jaxon | Yes, definately, lets turn this into an OS argument. |
| 12:12.14 | cladhaire | but you're defending it |
| 12:12.17 | |Kev| | of course |
| 12:12.20 | cladhaire | Jaxon: no, that was just a cheap shot =) |
| 12:12.30 | |Kev| | people should be allowed to code in whatever language they find most appropriate :) |
| 12:12.41 | ckknight | CAN HAS STDIO? |
| 12:12.43 | cladhaire | That is like making an ace addon but using no ace features "because everyone has ace" |
| 12:12.43 | Jaxon | cladhaire: I just wanted to get that out there before this thing got out of control :D |
| 12:12.48 | cladhaire | Jaxon: =) |
| 12:13.06 | |Kev| | surely it's the opposite |
| 12:13.15 | |Kev| | it's like not writing ace addons, because not everyone has ace |
| 12:13.28 | cladhaire | .... |
| 12:13.31 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 12:13.37 | cladhaire | no, its like writing an addon using the wow api |
| 12:13.40 | cladhaire | because everyone has the wow api. |
| 12:13.47 | |Kev| | which is the same thing, yes |
| 12:13.56 | cladhaire | dot dot dot. |
| 12:13.57 | cladhaire | again |
| 12:13.57 | cladhaire | i ask |
| 12:14.01 | cladhaire | does it use a single bash specific feature? |
| 12:14.03 | ckknight | yea, but bash can make some things easier |
| 12:14.05 | Shirik | |Kev|: That doesnt' mean anything |
| 12:14.11 | cladhaire | ckknight: agreed, but is this script using them? |
| 12:14.14 | Shirik | let us assume that I don't /want/ to have Ace |
| 12:14.15 | ckknight | but likely, most people don't use bash-specific features |
| 12:14.18 | |Kev| | again I say, I'm not writing a script |
| 12:14.26 | cladhaire | |Kev|: then please stop arguing |
| 12:14.30 | cladhaire | we're talking about a specific thing |
| 12:14.34 | cladhaire | not having a hypothetical argument. |
| 12:14.43 | kebinusan | no it doesnt, they all just use mv and rm mostly |
| 12:14.50 | kebinusan | so yeah, they hsould just be /sh |
| 12:14.53 | cladhaire | then it could/should be an .sh |
| 12:15.00 | Jaxon | OKAY |
| 12:15.01 | cladhaire | thats _all_ i'm saying. |
| 12:15.01 | Josh_Borke | wow, it's just a simple change to remove to letters. i can almost guarantee the scripts don't use any bash specific feature without even looking at it so it shouldn't matter |
| 12:15.01 | Jaxon | LOOK |
| 12:15.05 | Jaxon | SHUTUP FOR A SECOND |
| 12:15.09 | Josh_Borke | no? |
| 12:15.11 | Jaxon | IT IS "#1/bin/sh |
| 12:15.11 | cladhaire | no |
| 12:15.20 | Jaxon | I typed bash by habit |
| 12:15.22 | kebinusan | no I just commited that |
| 12:15.29 | kebinusan | or am atm |
| 12:15.29 | cladhaire | well |
| 12:15.30 | Shirik | 1? |
| 12:15.31 | Josh_Borke | no CIA, no proof |
| 12:15.33 | Josh_Borke | :-P |
| 12:15.34 | cladhaire | lol |
| 12:15.34 | kebinusan | the fix to #!/bin/sh |
| 12:15.36 | Shirik | I don't have a /1 folder :( |
| 12:15.47 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: that's because you're 'special' |
| 12:15.52 | Shirik | :( |
| 12:16.35 | Stephmw | wow, that was a long discussion |
| 12:19.08 | Jaxon | Now, what are the differences between Baggins and ArkInventory? Featureset seems to be the same. |
| 12:21.18 | winkiller | http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/2006-February/000547.html :P |
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| 12:25.03 | kebinusan | I dont believe baggins has bank support, I could be wrong tho |
| 12:25.08 | xt | wrong |
| 12:25.13 | kebinusan | and they look alot different |
| 12:25.18 | kebinusan | good to know :-) |
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| 12:30.07 | Stephmw | arkinventory can be a little sluggish, but it's imo better represented visually than baggins |
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| 12:37.49 | winkiller | yep, same |
| 12:38.06 | winkiller | I couldn't get Baggins to do what ArkInv does for me in reasonable time |
| 12:39.57 | Jaxon | Ark is letting me set PT categories, where can I get an inclusive listing of those? |
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| 12:46.26 | SunTiger | jaxon, pt3 browser. |
| 12:47.23 | Jaxon | SunTiger: thanks. |
| 12:47.50 | SunTiger | I R HLEPFLULL LEIK TATH |
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| 12:59.59 | trh | hidiho |
| 13:00.30 | trh | is there a addon with whom i can analyze the memory increasing rate based on a per addon basis instead of all addons |
| 13:01.01 | Elkano | performancefu, usagefu, ... |
| 13:02.25 | trh | Elkano: how do i select a single addon to watch in performancefu? |
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| 13:03.42 | Elkano | PerformanceFu will show the 5(?) addons with highest usage by default i its tooltip |
| 13:04.06 | trh | Elkano: i want to see the memory increasing RATE of one addon |
| 13:04.11 | Fisker- | Expo will do it for one addon |
| 13:04.13 | trh | Elkano: not the overall memory usage |
| 13:04.52 | trh | Fisker-: ok, tnx.. checking it =) |
| 13:05.09 | Elkano | well, UsageFu will also show the rate |
| 13:05.17 | Elkano | Expo is a bit harder to use imho |
| 13:05.39 | trh | ok. checking usagefu too =) |
| 13:05.42 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 13:05.59 | Fisker- | Expo needs skills |
| 13:06.02 | Fisker- | Elkano has none :( |
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| 13:07.01 | Megalon | then he should install SkillzFu, skillz for everyone! |
| 13:07.10 | Elkano | lies... I even got two professions close to 375... |
| 13:07.13 | Fisker- | i just ate ice |
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| 13:07.38 | Megalon | ice ice baby |
| 13:07.54 | trh | i got both main professions at 375 + first aid too, so i'm highly skilled =) |
| 13:08.18 | Megalon | i got axes 355/350 |
| 13:08.25 | Megalon | beat that! |
| 13:08.34 | xt | Elkano: sorry if my question is stupid, but buffbars give you something to help you not forgetting to buff yourself with certain buffs? |
| 13:08.43 | trh | Megalon: i could... if i'd skill axes to that level ;) |
| 13:08.44 | xt | like "ghost buffs" if they are missing |
| 13:08.49 | Worf | gotta find out which of my addons is bugging the targetframe popupmenu. it sometimes closes the menu right after opening it... anyone can remember such a behaviour? |
| 13:08.52 | Elkano | sorry, just had to unlearn your main profession to disenchant your itemz |
| 13:08.59 | Fisker- | Anyone know how to make a macro which targets yourself when i'm using alt as a modifier? |
| 13:09.04 | Megalon | master axesmith, so.. :x |
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| 13:09.10 | Elkano | xt: no, use CorkFu ^^ |
| 13:09.19 | xt | Really dont like it :( |
| 13:09.30 | xt | Elkano: DoTimer has ghost bars when dots are done ticking |
| 13:09.41 | xt | was thinking it could be neat for buffbars |
| 13:10.16 | kebinusan | postal mail processing is so fast now |
| 13:10.26 | trh | omg.. now the spammers invite people and spam via /raid |
| 13:10.42 | trh | as they can invite faster than whisper |
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| 13:12.53 | Elkano | well, if you group with someone you don't know just because he invites you, you deserve it... |
| 13:13.01 | Worf | i recently saw a spammer standing between bank and AH and just spamming per /s |
| 13:13.11 | Worf | they won't give up that fast it seems |
| 13:13.57 | Megalon | wtb interface option: "ignore everything from player below level [ ]" |
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| 13:14.00 | Megalon | :o |
| 13:15.16 | Elkano | wtb ban-cdkey for wc3... ;) |
| 13:16.19 | Health | Which means? |
| 13:16.37 | yacoob | ban-cdkey? |
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| 13:16.44 | Xuerian | wtb wc3-ban-dotards |
| 13:16.45 | yacoob | you auth, they ban you, joy folows? |
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| 13:19.22 | vhaarr | sedatedChipmunk: The BM2 tablet is hidden behind my inbox for some reason. |
| 13:19.30 | vhaarr | sedatedChipmunk: That's not where I placed it when I logged out. |
| 13:20.19 | Xuerian | vhaarr: Stop beating it. |
| 13:20.37 | Xuerian | =D |
| 13:20.45 | vhaarr | :( |
| 13:21.08 | Fisker- | already killed him for it |
| 13:21.10 | Xuerian | 'Mornininning. |
| 13:21.17 | Fisker- | omg it's not morning |
| 13:21.20 | Stephmw | ~UGT |
| 13:21.29 | purl | it has been said that ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 13:21.38 | Chompers | morning ;) |
| 13:21.50 | Xuerian | :D |
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| 13:26.31 | Fisker- | moar cowbell Xuerian |
| 13:26.43 | Fisker- | btw vhaarr worst thing is that the inbox resets on relog |
| 13:26.53 | vhaarr | Fisker-: grr |
| 13:27.03 | Xuerian | Fisker-: http://img.7chan.org/be/thumb/118179805864s.jpg |
| 13:27.11 | Fisker- | i got it out of there by scaling the inbox :P |
| 13:27.17 | Fisker- | but when i relogged it was back there :( |
| 13:27.27 | Fisker- | less 7chan |
| 13:28.06 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1181826913104.jpg <-i lol'd |
| 13:28.28 | Chompers | saved |
| 13:28.37 | Fisker- | saved? |
| 13:28.46 | Fisker- | ITS FUKKEN SAVED |
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| 13:28.54 | Psylo | hi |
| 13:28.55 | Fisker- | *kicks Chompers in the stomach* |
| 13:29.00 | Chompers | :( |
| 13:29.10 | Psylo | aguf has fill my bugsack with 240 errors ^^ |
| 13:29.34 | Psylo | translations errors |
| 13:30.10 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1181827477499.jpg |
| 13:30.10 | Fisker- | ;D |
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| 13:30.37 | Psylo | like this : http://rafb.net/p/ToRCVd64.html |
| 13:30.45 | Fisker- | keyloggars |
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| 13:34.50 | Psylo | doh |
| 13:35.24 | Psylo | are developpers tests it before pushing a new version online ? |
| 13:36.26 | Health | The svn/files version are dev versions ;o |
| 13:36.32 | Fisker- | i fucking lol'd |
| 13:36.47 | Health | niec |
| 13:36.51 | ckknight | I don't test my stuff |
| 13:36.51 | Fisker- | some tv-host called some black guy a monkey on live tv |
| 13:36.55 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 13:37.05 | deltron | ckknight: that's what we're for? |
| 13:37.08 | ckknight | Fisker-: link? |
| 13:37.11 | Xuerian | Psylo: That's your job, we just write the code |
| 13:37.11 | ckknight | deltron: clearly. |
| 13:37.15 | deltron | :D |
| 13:37.25 | Fisker- | danish tv ckknight |
| 13:37.31 | ckknight | lol |
| 13:37.34 | Psylo | i got 256 errors ... |
| 13:37.40 | Psylo | how can i report them |
| 13:37.41 | ckknight | Psylo: so tell the top one |
| 13:37.42 | Psylo | lolz |
| 13:37.46 | Fisker- | She said he couldn't see the picture properly though |
| 13:37.52 | Fisker- | so she just thought it was a monkey |
| 13:37.55 | Fisker- | and not to be racist |
| 13:38.01 | deltron | i do have an issue with a mod, but i'm not sure what the cause is |
| 13:38.18 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0CcswBjn7Y 1:20 in the movie |
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| 13:39.28 | snorks | i need someone good with photoshop. i need to put a tank in my guild in Lurker's place and make a title saying "The Faggot Below" |
| 13:39.39 | deltron | ... |
| 13:39.41 | kenlyric | Fisker-: the sombrero was funnier. |
| 13:39.50 | deltron | this sure sounds like the right channel for that |
| 13:39.57 | Fisker- | indeed kenlyric |
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| 13:40.11 | snorks | Worf transported out |
| 13:41.46 | Fisker- | why are they writing Hawaii as Hawaï O_o |
| 13:41.54 | deltron | kawaii |
| 13:41.57 | Fisker- | btw |
| 13:41.59 | Fisker- | kenlyric |
| 13:42.44 | Fisker- | When they showed that clip, and went back to the host the male host said "Now they're showing it again, that's nice" |
| 13:42.44 | Fisker- | :P |
| 13:42.52 | kenlyric | heh |
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| 13:43.39 | Psylo | ckknight http://rafb.net/p/QlYjSi41.html |
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| 13:44.03 | ckknight | agUF bug |
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| 13:45.16 | Psylo | where can i DL stable and working versions only ? i don't want to do more testing just play ;) |
| 13:45.40 | Fisker- | www.wowinterface.com |
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| 13:46.55 | Fisker- | http://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/ <-this also contains a lot of the older revisions |
| 13:47.29 | Fisker- | http://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames-r38946.zip <-i'd try that one |
| 13:47.58 | Psylo | r20943 on wowinterface, i think there are versions correctly working since this one |
| 13:48.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: Will the new AceLocale produce errors on things the old one did not? |
| 13:48.58 | ckknight | no |
| 13:49.08 | ckknight | shouldn't |
| 13:49.16 | ckknight | unless there's a bug |
| 13:49.17 | vhaarr | I think something is broken, then |
| 13:49.26 | ckknight | testcase? |
| 13:49.27 | krka | "shouldn't" is rarely "won't" in development :( |
| 13:51.40 | Psylo | all my errors comes from Ace2\AceLocale-2.2\ |
| 13:51.51 | vhaarr | ckknight: No, I'm just getting reports from people saying they get errors now, I use enGB myself so I get nothing. |
| 13:51.54 | Psylo | translations errors |
| 13:52.02 | Psylo | frFR client |
| 13:52.14 | Psylo | 250 errors |
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| 13:52.47 | Psylo | vhaarr i think this is YOUR fault ^^ |
| 13:53.04 | vhaarr | it must be this commit; http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/39855 |
| 13:53.07 | vhaarr | so no, it's not my fault |
| 13:53.50 | ckknight | oh, I know the issue |
| 13:53.54 | ckknight | craftiness |
| 13:54.06 | Psylo | all my errors are like this one : http://rafb.net/p/HUphiA52.html |
| 13:54.10 | Psylo | can you fix it ? |
| 13:55.15 | ckknight | committing |
| 13:56.02 | Psylo | what ? |
| 13:56.23 | ckknight | ... |
| 13:57.03 | Psylo | i don't know what means "commiting" sorry i'm just a froggy ^^ |
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| 13:59.05 | vhaarr | it means that if you do an update in 20min, it might be fixed |
| 13:59.09 | vhaarr | and if it's not, say so |
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| 13:59.54 | nevcairiel | if the commits get through till then |
| 13:59.57 | hypetech | when the alliance turn in mag's head, does it pike it in Honor Hold like it does for Horde in thrallmar |
| 14:00.01 | nevcairiel | mine is stuck for like 5 minutes now :P |
| 14:00.07 | nevcairiel | yes hypetech |
| 14:00.17 | kebinusan | hypetech: yeah its more a pole than a pike |
| 14:00.19 | Psylo | ok thx :) |
| 14:00.25 | Fisker- | committing means having sex |
| 14:00.33 | Fisker- | and getting a relationship going |
| 14:00.34 | nevcairiel | with teh servars |
| 14:01.06 | Fisker- | sometimes if there's a bug the developer will ask you instructions on how to reproduce |
| 14:01.12 | Fisker- | since he has to be able to commit |
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| 14:07.42 | Psylo | reproduce the sexual position ? |
| 14:08.39 | Fisker- | btw |
| 14:08.46 | Fisker- | anyone know how i can decrease the fontsize of the gametooltip? |
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| 14:12.37 | ckknight | Psylo: yea, test it out |
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| 14:16.55 | Psylo | ckknight 0 error thx a lot :) |
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| 14:46.24 | [Ammo] | I think I'm going insane |
| 14:46.34 | [Ammo] | something is printing: Registered module: <bossname> |
| 14:46.47 | [Ammo] | but a search for 'Registered module' doesn't ive me results |
| 14:47.21 | nevcairiel | prolly your search is borked :) |
| 14:47.29 | [Ammo] | never seen grep fail me yet |
| 14:47.39 | [Ammo] | wouter@connected:~/wow/svn/trunk/BigWigs$ rgrep "Registered module" * |
| 14:47.39 | [Ammo] | wouter@connected:~/wow/svn/trunk/BigWigs$ |
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| 14:47.44 | [Ammo] | 0 results.... |
| 14:48.00 | Fisker- | perhaps it's not bigwigs |
| 14:48.16 | [Ammo] | but it's only showing bigwigs addons |
| 14:48.19 | [Ammo] | or modules |
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| 14:48.28 | Fisker- | Perhaps it's a trap |
| 14:48.31 | Fisker- | made by me |
| 14:48.44 | art3mis | dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnn |
| 14:48.47 | Fisker- | bah art3mis |
| 14:48.48 | Fisker- | beat me to it |
| 14:48.50 | art3mis | *shifty eyes* |
| 14:48.55 | Fisker- | *more spooky music* |
| 14:48.57 | [Ammo] | but ok, I'll expand my search on the whole addon folder |
| 14:49.06 | Tornhoof | threat-1.0 ammo |
| 14:49.07 | art3mis | hehe but we'll give the dog shifty eyes! |
| 14:49.10 | [Ammo] | it's thret-1.0 |
| 14:49.13 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 14:49.15 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:49.16 | [Ammo] | spammy bitch |
| 14:49.17 | nevcairiel | how? |
| 14:49.31 | Tornhoof | AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("Registered module: " .. name) |
| 14:49.31 | [Ammo] | the NPC modulecore spams |
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| 14:49.36 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:49.36 | sedatedChipmunk | Fisker-: haha noob |
| 14:49.46 | art3mis | grep -R poop * |
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| 14:50.45 | Kirkburn | Moo! |
| 14:50.52 | Leialyn | What does "Show KTM Data" at Omen do if someone has ThreatLib and KTM installed ? |
| 14:51.03 | Fisker- | haha noob self sedatedChipmunk |
| 14:51.03 | nevcairiel | hey Kirkburn, holidays over already? |
| 14:51.18 | Kirkburn | Aye, twas short, but sweet :P |
| 14:51.21 | Fisker- | owned by plottwists [Ammo] |
| 14:51.28 | Fisker- | i win |
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| 14:53.01 | [Ammo] | Leialyn: the Show KTM dataa option is to show people on the threatmeter who use KTM |
| 14:53.05 | Leialyn | So what does "Show data coming from people using KLHThreatMeter rather than ThreatLib." mean? :o Does it prefer klhtm data oder ThreatLib data ? |
| 14:53.19 | Leialyn | to translate it I need to understand it ^^ |
| 14:53.29 | [Ammo] | if you toggle KTM data off |
| 14:53.35 | [Ammo] | then only people using threatlib will show |
| 14:53.49 | Leialyn | so why is there a "rather" ? :o |
| 14:54.12 | Leialyn | maybe I mix it up a bit |
| 14:54.18 | [Ammo] | the desc is shit |
| 14:54.22 | Leialyn | ;P |
| 14:54.28 | [Ammo] | the option basically means: include KTM users or not |
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| 14:54.37 | Leialyn | ok ok ^^ |
| 14:55.30 | Bver | the wau server is down :( I wanted to test out omen / violation! |
| 14:57.22 | Cheads | works fine here |
| 14:58.18 | Cheads | not anymore =) |
| 14:58.27 | TheKarn | learn2mirror |
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| 14:59.08 | Cheads | =) |
| 15:00.16 | [Ammo] | new pc, dual 17" LCDs, and weissbier, sometimes work is good ;) |
| 15:00.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:00.47 | [Ammo] | even got everything working with x64 stuffs |
| 15:00.57 | deltron | i need to install x64 |
| 15:01.06 | [Ammo] | no vista though, because vista blows |
| 15:01.07 | deltron | need to find a floppy drive first.. |
| 15:01.07 | nevcairiel | i removed x64 last week or so |
| 15:01.17 | nevcairiel | no real advantages |
| 15:01.21 | [Ammo] | well we only had XP pro 64 licenses |
| 15:01.25 | [Ammo] | so there was really no choice |
| 15:01.25 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:01.38 | Fisker- | I got all Windows licenses |
| 15:01.41 | [Ammo] | and no way I'm going to run linux on a desktop |
| 15:01.45 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: we got everything as well |
| 15:01.50 | [Ammo] | anything you can imagine :) |
| 15:01.51 | Fisker- | well besides Vista Ultimate Edition |
| 15:01.59 | [Ammo] | but vista blows |
| 15:02.00 | deltron | this is personal heh |
| 15:02.02 | nevcairiel | i have everything MSDNAA offers :D |
| 15:02.08 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: same :p |
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| 15:02.21 | Fisker- | haha you got no office then |
| 15:02.33 | nevcairiel | not from there |
| 15:02.34 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:02.34 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 15:02.40 | [Ammo] | once in a while there is an express delivery |
| 15:02.46 | [Ammo] | with more dvds |
| 15:02.49 | [Ammo] | and cds |
| 15:02.55 | nevcairiel | i just download it |
| 15:03.00 | [Ammo] | they deliver it |
| 15:03.05 | [Ammo] | and I'm fine with that |
| 15:03.18 | nevcairiel | they would prolly to my university, and i wouldve to go there and make copies |
| 15:03.24 | nevcairiel | so i can just download and burn myself |
| 15:03.24 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:03.46 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:03.59 | chutwig | nuuuuuuu files.wowace.com broke again |
| 15:04.25 | nevcairiel | now back to my amazing delphi application :( |
| 15:04.34 | [Ammo] | amazing and delphi in one sentence |
| 15:04.38 | [Ammo] | you must be suicidal |
| 15:04.55 | nevcairiel | i hate that fucking language |
| 15:04.56 | chutwig | delphi was pretty awesome back in the day |
| 15:05.07 | nevcairiel | but university is making me use it |
| 15:05.14 | chutwig | but i can't believe anyone uses it now |
| 15:05.31 | nevcairiel | we had pure pascal last semester, now delphi .. |
| 15:05.34 | nevcairiel | next is C |
| 15:05.40 | nevcairiel | that will hopefully be more fun :P |
| 15:06.08 | chutwig | pascal will live forever |
| 15:06.10 | Firik | is it just me or is there no nice way to see when party members start casting heals on other party members? |
| 15:06.12 | [Ammo] | purse ansi C is good fun |
| 15:06.17 | [Ammo] | pure even |
| 15:06.19 | nevcairiel | yeah pure C |
| 15:06.25 | nevcairiel | no c++ tainting |
| 15:06.26 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:06.31 | chutwig | put up party casting bars and maybe interactlines if you're using pitbull |
| 15:06.37 | [Ammo] | Firik: there is |
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| 15:06.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 15:06.50 | nevcairiel | use agUF and toggle casting bars |
| 15:06.52 | nevcairiel | or pitbull |
| 15:06.54 | nevcairiel | or whatever |
| 15:07.01 | [Ammo] | annd check their code for the events |
| 15:07.08 | [Ammo] | and the functions to read the caststatus |
| 15:07.25 | art3mis | make everyone use castparty ;) |
| 15:08.29 | [Ammo] | which is completely obsolete |
| 15:08.31 | [Ammo] | and useless |
| 15:08.51 | MoonWolf | and even then, rather a brute force solution. |
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| 15:08.59 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:09.11 | [Ammo] | but blizz has events for everything castparty offers now |
| 15:09.14 | Firik | why didn't I think of that, I looked though all code of Parser but didn't find anything useful for me there |
| 15:13.25 | Zurks | files.wowace.com down? |
| 15:13.41 | Firik | yes |
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| 15:13.58 | jme | no! the horror! :( |
| 15:14.13 | Leialyn | omg who killed CIA-22 ? |
| 15:14.26 | Fisker- | btw |
| 15:14.34 | Fisker- | anyone know why i'm friendly with the burning legion? |
| 15:14.43 | Fisker- | other than me pledging allegiance to the burning legion? |
| 15:14.47 | trh | i shot the sheriff, but i didn't stabbed cia-22 ;) |
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| 15:15.12 | jme | Fisker-: sweet, i want to be frendly with the burning legion |
| 15:15.21 | Tornhoof | burning legion as a faction? |
| 15:15.36 | Fisker- | no :o |
| 15:15.43 | jme | aw :( |
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| 15:15.49 | Saroz | ckknight_, AceLocale-2.2's HasTranslation function is missing |
| 15:16.21 | Fisker- | it's just that some of the burning legion mobs in blade's edge are friendly with me |
| 15:16.37 | Tornhoof | quest mobs? |
| 15:16.40 | art3mis | maybe its cuz yer spikey? |
| 15:16.41 | Saladin | Fisker-: its the new aftershave |
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| 15:17.11 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 15:17.28 | Fisker- | Tornhoof it's the mobs at the apexis monoments |
| 15:17.47 | Antiarc|Work | Morning |
| 15:17.52 | Tornhoof | ah yes |
| 15:17.54 | Fisker- | ~ugt |
| 15:17.54 | purl | i guess ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:17.55 | Tornhoof | i had that too fisker |
| 15:17.57 | Tornhoof | dunno why |
| 15:18.00 | Tornhoof | buggy mobs |
| 15:18.07 | Antiarc|Work | :P |
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| 15:23.13 | Saroz | Can someone fix AceLocale? |
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| 15:23.26 | Saroz | Cause I have no idea how metatables work and it's really screwed :| |
| 15:27.01 | [Ammo] | Saroz: oh? since when? |
| 15:27.16 | [Ammo] | I updated 30 mins ago or so and it works here |
| 15:27.24 | Saroz | since you can't use HasTranslation() etc. |
| 15:27.31 | Saroz | seems all methods are gone from it |
| 15:27.35 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 15:27.40 | Saroz | yup |
| 15:27.44 | [Ammo] | works here |
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| 15:27.53 | [Ammo] | you sure you don't have osmething fucking up your acelocale reference |
| 15:28.01 | Saroz | yup, it's aguf fucking up atm |
| 15:28.08 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Ping |
| 15:28.12 | Saroz | /dump AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("ag_UnitFrames"):HasTranslation("foo") |
| 15:28.18 | Saroz | undefined method HasTranslation() |
| 15:28.32 | [Ammo] | works here |
| 15:28.43 | [Ammo] | prints: nil |
| 15:28.45 | Saroz | last commit was ~40 min ago |
| 15:28.49 | Antiarc|Work | Nevermind, unping! |
| 15:28.52 | [Ammo] | updating then |
| 15:28.56 | [Ammo] | see if it breaks |
| 15:28.59 | Saroz | thx |
| 15:29.12 | Dustwhisper | Is there any nice Chatframe addon? Something that lets you use tabbing/hotkeys to switch between chatframes, or change them via mouseover? Or something |
| 15:29.13 | [Ammo] | but I think I got my addons 30 mins ago |
| 15:29.22 | Saroz | updating again here |
| 15:29.32 | Saroz | but I doublechecked, should be up to date |
| 15:30.00 | Hjalte | Is files.wowace.com undergoing some kind of maintenance? |
| 15:30.05 | [Ammo] | it did just update acelocale |
| 15:30.07 | [Ammo] | so testing... |
| 15:30.19 | [Ammo] | prints nil |
| 15:30.22 | [Ammo] | no problems here |
| 15:31.14 | [Ammo] | might be an upgradepath error saroz? |
| 15:31.53 | Saroz | upgradepath? *shrug* running a full update again |
| 15:32.04 | Saroz | Completed: At revision: 39886 |
| 15:32.04 | [Ammo] | meaning if you use an old AceLocale and a newer one |
| 15:32.18 | [Ammo] | it all works here |
| 15:32.19 | Saroz | we'll see :) |
| 15:32.20 | [Ammo] | so you must have some addon fucking it up |
| 15:34.09 | Saroz | that looks like it might be it, it's getting updates of old revisions now |
| 15:38.13 | Antiarc|Work | Ping test |
| 15:38.21 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, CIA died |
| 15:38.22 | Antiarc|Work | Nevermind |
| 15:38.36 | Saroz | ookay SVN is laggy |
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| 15:42.16 | nevcairiel | i think the cia hook is timing out |
| 15:42.41 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: pong |
| 15:42.49 | [Ammo] | CIA commits just fine |
| 15:42.52 | [Ammo] | it's the posthook that fails |
| 15:43.05 | [Ammo] | which might be an issue with CIA or with the files.wowace.com thign |
| 15:43.13 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Had a question on the warlock module, but I learned2read and don't have it anymore |
| 15:43.47 | Gagorian | Alright :p |
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| 15:44.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 15:45.46 | Chompers | i'm trying to modifiy the class text used in pitbull, i was wondering what else i could add |
| 15:45.53 | Chompers | [Classification] [Level:DifficultyColor:~IsEqual(70)] [SmartClass:ClassColor] [DruidForm:Paren] |
| 15:46.13 | nevcairiel | i wish i could do something like record[X] in pascal, where X is a varible, to decide which field i want :( wtb smart bubble sort algorithm |
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| 15:47.40 | Chompers | would 'isMaxLevel' be better than ':~IsEqual(70)' |
| 15:49.15 | Zurks | Ok, eavesdrop seems completely broken |
| 15:50.16 | [Ammo] | that's one useless remark |
| 15:50.25 | [Ammo] | give a reason why you think it is |
| 15:50.51 | [Ammo] | otherwise your opinion will probably be valued as high as the dollar |
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| 15:51.36 | Zurks | Yeah, sorry, caught up in other channel. It's just a immovable white box with no settings. |
| 15:51.54 | Zurks | After I updated half an hour ago, that is. |
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| 15:53.15 | [Ammo] | you might have to update all your addons |
| 15:53.18 | [Ammo] | and it might work again |
| 15:53.38 | [Ammo] | doesn't sound very reliable, but saroz just had an upgradepath bug as well for libs |
| 15:53.48 | Saroz | SVN is zzz |
| 15:54.17 | nadas | eavesdrop was working fine last night at least (for me anyway). i would update and test again but files is down.. ;) |
| 15:54.43 | Kinkx | eavesdrop haven't been updated in awhile, works fine here |
| 15:55.22 | Zurks | I've used it for as long as I can remember, just doing this after I updated earlier |
| 15:55.23 | abyssichate | Can addons ever influence ping? |
| 15:55.39 | Zurks | And now files is down :[ |
| 15:56.26 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: It depends on the implementation of the ping mechanism. If it's in another threat, no. If your addons run REALLY slowly then it might slow the ping down a bit |
| 15:56.37 | Antiarc|Work | But I would be beyond shocked if the net comms and the UI ran in the same thread |
| 15:57.07 | abyssichate | Alright |
| 15:57.30 | Saroz | FINALLY it works |
| 15:58.15 | trh | any idea how i could analyze what in the Ace2 Library eats more and more memory? |
| 15:58.31 | trh | tried namespace Ace/Ace2 with expo but that didnt work |
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| 16:00.32 | sedatedChipmunk | sure you can influence ping |
| 16:00.45 | hyperChipmunk | just add 100 before displaying =) |
| 16:00.46 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Binary search. Disable half your mods and see if it stops. If it does, then enable the other half and repeat till you find the culprit, then look at its libraries. |
| 16:01.20 | trh | Antiarc|Work: :( |
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| 16:01.58 | Thumann | hi, any timeframe regarding when files.wowace.com will be up again? |
| 16:02.05 | Thumann | all my mods are failing |
| 16:02.13 | Cryect | your mods are failing? |
| 16:02.26 | Thumann | all of them complain about babble |
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| 16:02.31 | Thumann | grid isn't working either |
| 16:02.35 | Thumann | rangecheck |
| 16:02.35 | Thumann | etc |
| 16:02.40 | Cryect | worst case update from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ |
| 16:02.59 | Gamefaq | have that too, i updated my addons now everything is broken because i get the messages that Babble-Boss speel and so on requires AceLibrary |
| 16:03.14 | Thumann | i tried the alternate download location in wowace updater |
| 16:03.36 | snorks | yeah |
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| 16:03.47 | Firik | files is still accesable here: http://svn.wowace.com/files/ |
| 16:03.57 | snorks | for WAU too? |
| 16:04.01 | snorks | if i change url? |
| 16:04.11 | Firik | dunno haven't tried but I guess it works |
| 16:04.51 | Firik | I'm guessing files.wowace.com is a redirect to svn.wowace.com/files/ that isn't working atm |
| 16:04.57 | art3mis | i think in wau if you select the "beta versions" youll access the svn |
| 16:05.02 | art3mis | not entirely sure though |
| 16:05.54 | snorks | used the renchap mirror |
| 16:05.55 | snorks | worked |
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| 16:06.12 | art3mis | svn points are renchap |
| 16:06.21 | art3mis | are == at |
| 16:06.35 | snorks | ok |
| 16:07.45 | Zurks | It seems that babble appears to be borked, all my errors are regarding that |
| 16:08.03 | Thumann | i constantly get a popup from grid :( |
| 16:08.08 | Thumann | guess it hasn't been updated yet |
| 16:08.35 | Thumann | pitbull isn't working either |
| 16:09.19 | snorks | pitbull works for me |
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| 16:10.02 | Thumann | i have it in my foobar |
| 16:10.11 | Thumann | but when i rightclick on it, there are no options |
| 16:10.15 | Nickenyfiken | you can update from the mirror in WAU |
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| 16:10.23 | Thumann | and the frames aren't changed |
| 16:10.27 | Thumann | kill WTF ? |
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| 16:12.35 | snurre | yummy! tyrkisk peber + stolichnaya vodka ftw :p |
| 16:13.14 | Thumann | god, this is unplayable |
| 16:14.13 | Thumann | what's the slash command for pitbull? |
| 16:14.29 | hyperChipmunk | i'm gonna take a shot in the dark |
| 16:14.31 | hyperChipmunk | and say /pitbull |
| 16:14.44 | Thumann | -_- i asked because that one isn't working |
| 16:14.46 | Thumann | for me.. |
| 16:14.54 | Thumann | and i just downloaded the svn release |
| 16:15.12 | Firik | then I'm guessing /pb or /pbull |
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| 16:15.25 | hyperChipmunk | it is /pitbull |
| 16:15.31 | hyperChipmunk | it pops up a dewdrop |
| 16:15.35 | hyperChipmunk | no console feedback |
| 16:16.22 | Thumann | nothing here |
| 16:16.37 | Thumann | 'press /help for bla bla bla' |
| 16:16.43 | [dRaCo] | I don't think there is a console command |
| 16:16.45 | [R]Ispide | hi all |
| 16:16.49 | [dRaCo] | but why would you need one? |
| 16:17.10 | Xuerian | Thumann: Is Dewdrop loaded? |
| 16:17.21 | hyperChipmunk | then pitbull isn't loaded |
| 16:17.30 | hyperChipmunk | you restart wow after installing it? |
| 16:17.37 | Thumann | yes, naturally |
| 16:17.48 | Thumann | and the 'check' is there aswell |
| 16:17.51 | Thumann | bartender loads fine |
| 16:17.56 | [R]Ispide | anyone here can help me ? i need to find out how to import data from armory and use them with Gladiator addon i'm looking all over Ace forums but can't find anything.... and yes i'm quite not skilled about lua things :) |
| 16:18.04 | Thumann | just got an error popup from pitbull banzai |
| 16:18.05 | Thumann | :S |
| 16:18.06 | hyperChipmunk | what does /ace enable PitBull reply? |
| 16:18.31 | Thumann | pitbull already enabled |
| 16:19.42 | Thumann | :S |
| 16:20.16 | durcyn | [R]Ispide: download Tattle. |
| 16:20.23 | [R]Ispide | ok |
| 16:20.30 | [R]Ispide | is not included in gladiator ? |
| 16:20.34 | durcyn | no. |
| 16:20.40 | [R]Ispide | ok i do that so |
| 16:21.35 | hyperChipmunk | it used to be |
| 16:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | but you have to put your battlegroup data in the main addons folder |
| 16:23.37 | trh | Antiarc|Work: can the Ace2 memory usage be done by libraries that get installed standalone? |
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| 16:23.49 | Killmore | anyone know an addon to see all items that the raid use and can be display by slot item, class, stats etc.. ? |
| 16:23.59 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Sure, definitely |
| 16:24.05 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work ! |
| 16:24.10 | Antiarc|Work | Heyas :) |
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| 16:24.36 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: Kudos for understanding what he said |
| 16:24.44 | Xuerian | Can't make heads or tails of it XD |
| 16:24.58 | haarm | did something happen with SharedMedia? a bunch of textures went poof after an svn update |
| 16:25.00 | Antiarc|Work | Xuerian: He wanted to know if standalone libs could fluff up the ace2 memory usage :) |
| 16:25.07 | Thumann | okay, renamed WTF folder, logged in, only enabled 'up to date' addons.. and nothing works |
| 16:25.15 | Thumann | pitbull, grid etc. |
| 16:25.26 | Thumann | bartender3 works though |
| 16:25.29 | durcyn | Thumann: using SupplyAndDemand or ForkliftGnome? |
| 16:25.30 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: Oh 0.o. |
| 16:25.49 | Thumann | durcyn: no, not unless they're bundled with one of the ones i just mentioned |
| 16:25.53 | Xuerian | How did S&D/FG get back into the picture anyway? |
| 16:25.53 | [R]Ispide | hyperChipmunk: how do i get updated datas from Armory (only my battlegroup) and then insert them inside gladiator ? (yes there is tattle inside gladiator) |
| 16:26.18 | durcyn | Thumann: /ace load pitbull |
| 16:26.29 | Thumann | durcyn: it says it's already enabled |
| 16:26.36 | Thumann | and i get warnings from pitbull banzai |
| 16:26.43 | Thumann | (every 2 seconds) |
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| 16:27.05 | hyperChipmunk | [R]Ispide: tattle should have recent data from the top 1000 teams |
| 16:27.09 | durcyn | [R]Ispide: there's a lua script in there. you'll need the lua binaries and the socke tlib. |
| 16:27.17 | durcyn | Thumann: standalone or embedded? |
| 16:27.20 | hyperChipmunk | you have to find what battlegroup is yours |
| 16:27.24 | durcyn | socket lib, rather. |
| 16:27.34 | [R]Ispide | durcyn : ok i've binaries already |
| 16:27.38 | [R]Ispide | need the lib |
| 16:27.40 | Thumann | durcyn: rephrase |
| 16:27.52 | durcyn | Thumann: are you using standalone libraries, or embedded |
| 16:28.02 | Thumann | durcyn: embedded i guess |
| 16:28.06 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~diego/professional/luasocket/ |
| 16:28.09 | Roartindon | Xuerian: New .toc entries in 2.1 allow S&D to handle optionally LoD addons |
| 16:28.22 | durcyn | and what's the banzai error? can you put it in a pastey? |
| 16:28.28 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Aha |
| 16:28.41 | Thumann | durcyn: something about a function which is a nill value |
| 16:28.51 | durcyn | okay, which function? |
| 16:29.02 | Chompers | 'IsEqual(arg)' what type of arguments can i use? |
| 16:29.04 | durcyn | the messages are specific for a reason :o |
| 16:29.12 | Xuerian | Thumann: "Something about" is the worst thing a tech/programmer can hear, almost |
| 16:29.15 | Roartindon | Chompers: dogtag? |
| 16:29.19 | Chompers | yeah |
| 16:29.19 | Xuerian | It makes us want to stab things |
| 16:29.21 | Xuerian | namely you |
| 16:29.25 | Roartindon | Chompers: text strings I think |
| 16:29.28 | hyperChipmunk | [R]Ispide: then you're gonna want to edit the dataminer.lua in Tattle and uncomment the updateonly line near the top and put in your datagroup, and the max_num_teams if you want more teams |
| 16:29.34 | Loki|muh | whats up with files.wowace.com |
| 16:29.39 | Cryect | Xuerian: Your addons crashed my computer and I'm sueing you! |
| 16:29.39 | hyperChipmunk | s/datagroup/battlegroup/ |
| 16:29.41 | Thumann | Xuerian: no, 'it just doesn't work' is the worst one |
| 16:29.47 | Xuerian | Cryect: Bring it, beyotch <.< |
| 16:29.49 | moonsorrow | ckknight_: there seems to be a bug in pitbull with updating the party frames, if I'm moved in a raid to another group some things don' |
| 16:29.49 | Chompers | i guess it has to be exact and not something like 'max' |
| 16:29.54 | moonsorrow | t update, like health bars etc. |
| 16:30.01 | Xuerian | Thumann: I said "Almost", didn't I? ;) |
| 16:30.07 | Thumann | but the 'attempt to call a nill value' is more or less the same for all addons |
| 16:30.11 | Cryect | :-p |
| 16:30.18 | Thumann | ofc, the specifik line and code isn't |
| 16:30.24 | [R]Ispide | where i get the socket lib ? |
| 16:30.26 | Xuerian | :) |
| 16:30.28 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~diego/professional/luasocket/ |
| 16:31.07 | durcyn | Thumann: it -sounds- like you have a broken lib. with embedded, that's usually caused by broken versions of a lib loading before the addon that doesn't work. are you using other banzai addons, and have you updated them? |
| 16:31.12 | Thumann | grid/libs/babble-spell-2.2\babble-spell-2.2.lua:10002: attempt to call method '?' (a nill value) |
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| 16:31.29 | durcyn | oh, that. BS is somehow broken atm. |
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| 16:31.50 | Xuerian | It shouldn't bork pb though |
| 16:31.53 | Skyboat | I took a look at that earlier but seems to have fixed itself |
| 16:31.55 | Antiarc|Work | If I use ScheduleLeaveCombatAction and I'm not in combat, does it get fired automatically? |
| 16:31.57 | syeren | ckknight_, WTB the latest Rev :P |
| 16:32.04 | durcyn | Xuerian: he's got two different problems, it seems |
| 16:32.06 | syeren | File server is down though :( |
| 16:32.08 | Xuerian | yea |
| 16:32.14 | durcyn | Thumann: when was the last time you fed the whole lot through WAU? |
| 16:32.16 | Antiarc|Work | "This will call the function instantly if you are not in combat." |
| 16:32.17 | Antiarc|Work | Doh. |
| 16:32.23 | Thumann | grid\gridstatusrange.lua:76 attempt to index upvalue 'GridRange' (a nill value) |
| 16:32.26 | hyperChipmunk | l2read |
| 16:32.31 | Thumann | durcyn: 5 seconds ago |
| 16:32.41 | Lyfe | ahh, would be very neat (although very dangerous) if you could use sockets from a script in wow.. :) |
| 16:32.44 | FtH|Daemona | so wassup with da files? |
| 16:33.08 | durcyn | Lyfe: precisely why it's prohibited. |
| 16:33.49 | Thumann | Ace: grid is now disabled |
| 16:33.52 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: the server prolly went down, and the proxy is sending us that error |
| 16:33.54 | Thumann | and i still get popup warnings? |
| 16:34.09 | Thumann | from grid |
| 16:34.19 | Chompers | Roartindon: i guess '[SmartHP:~IsEqual(Max)]' wont work then |
| 16:34.27 | Chompers | what if i swapped 'max' for 'IsMaxHP' |
| 16:34.55 | Chompers | is is the actual argument only text and will never process it, if that makes sense |
| 16:35.02 | Chompers | *or is |
| 16:35.21 | durcyn | Thumann: you've got some seriously broken crap. disable everything but grid and tell me what happens. |
| 16:35.29 | Thumann | hang on |
| 16:35.32 | Thumann | and i agree :) |
| 16:35.46 | Antiarc|Work | I would love love love to have some kind of external data interface for WoW |
| 16:35.58 | Antiarc|Work | The scripting engine is already pretty locked down in terms of botting capability |
| 16:36.15 | Loki|muh | whats up with files.wowace.com? |
| 16:36.16 | Thumann | durcyn: okay, i clicked on disable all, then clicked on grid, that would be okay right?= |
| 16:36.18 | Antiarc|Work | But things like an in-game IRC client, or transparent game<->web DKP management would be beyond boss. |
| 16:36.33 | durcyn | Thumann: Should be, assuming you're actually fully embedded. |
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| 16:37.09 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: Was anything change with Threat_ThreatCleared events recently? |
| 16:37.14 | steev64 | files.wowace.com unreachable, known issue? |
| 16:37.26 | Roartindon | They weren't firing for me in my kara raid earlier, and hence, I was getting threat values building up for some players |
| 16:37.27 | FtH|Daemona | yes |
| 16:37.30 | steev64 | k |
| 16:37.55 | Thumann | durcyn: okay, no errors :) |
| 16:38.04 | Thumann | some in one of the other mods, a lib is broken? |
| 16:38.08 | Roartindon | Our MT was getting increasing threat values for common trash.. eg. Skeletal Waiter would start off at 30k+ threat |
| 16:38.25 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: Hrm. No, it should be working. I'll check into it. |
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| 16:38.39 | SkorcherX | hello |
| 16:39.11 | Thumann | durcyn: pitbull also works |
| 16:39.20 | Thumann | durcyn: i'll just enable stuff till i find the perp |
| 16:39.22 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: From memory, it seemed to be working okay last week, just today it was apparent |
| 16:39.28 | SkorcherX | is there an ace2 addon that is similar to theorycraft, im looking for something to track DPS, crits, and other things to examine my dps with different builds. (warrior) |
| 16:39.29 | durcyn | Thumann: Basically what happens is, addons get loaded alphabetically (with OptDeps going first where appropriate), thusly their libraries get loaded first. If you've got a broken lib loading before Grid that grid also uses, it can sometimes happen that the old version ends up being used |
| 16:39.37 | durcyn | SkorcherX: not for melee. |
| 16:39.42 | SkorcherX | really? |
| 16:39.50 | durcyn | DrDamage only does caster classes at the moment |
| 16:40.50 | Thumann | durcyn: hmm.. my fubar money thinks it can run without fubar, where the rest show dependancy missing |
| 16:42.15 | SkorcherX | so there is no mod right now out that can calculate melee dmg being output? WoW... theorycraft got discontinued. And the DPS meters dont give "all" that i would like to see. |
| 16:42.30 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Guy on the EJ forums is reporting that Affliction spells aren't receiving the 10% threat discount from Imp Drain Soul |
| 16:42.31 | Skyboat | most FuBar plugins can run standalone |
| 16:42.33 | Thumann | durcyn: haha,, it was bartender :) |
| 16:42.50 | Skyboat | don't even need FuBar for it |
| 16:42.55 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc|Work does threat remember the no-aggro debuff on Gurtogg? (didnt check boss modules :X) |
| 16:43.16 | Antiarc|Work | FtH|Daemona: That's the Insignifigance (sic) one, right? |
| 16:43.17 | Thumann | Skyboat: ayem it wasn't an issue |
| 16:43.18 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: I think they do, but I'd have to test a lot |
| 16:43.23 | FtH|Daemona | yes |
| 16:43.38 | Thumann | durcyn: ah, it wasn't bartender, it's fubar |
| 16:43.45 | Antiarc|Work | It should be there in English, but I don't know about other locales. I suspect that it still needs to be translated for non-english locales in Babble-Spell |
| 16:43.59 | FtH|Daemona | i dont mind, i use enGB ;) |
| 16:44.31 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: That would explain my quirky Threat on my lock >_> |
| 16:44.33 | Antiarc|Work | Man, SVN is slow. |
| 16:44.36 | SkorcherX | ok well... now for a WoW question... |
| 16:44.45 | Antiarc|Work | Xuerian: Indeed. If you can verify that it's broken, I'd appreciate it. |
| 16:44.56 | [Ammo] | it showed my threat correct I think |
| 16:45.04 | SkorcherX | where is a good place to throttle on 70+ monsters to try to calculate DPS |
| 16:45.05 | [Ammo] | at least I pulled aggro when I should with the 10% reduction |
| 16:45.09 | Antiarc|Work | It'll be trivial to test |
| 16:45.19 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc|Work, there is no BlackTemple folder though in the NPCModules folder ;) |
| 16:45.42 | Antiarc|Work | FtH|Daemona: Indeed not. I have no clue how the mechanics in those fights work. If you can feed me info on them, I can create modules though |
| 16:45.55 | Antiarc|Work | Hit a mob with Corruption if you have the talent, and see if you get threat that is equal to (damage done * 0.9) |
| 16:46.05 | Antiarc|Work | If you get damage * 1.0 and have the talent, it's brokended. |
| 16:46.16 | Antiarc|Work | Horry cow SVN is slow. |
| 16:46.52 | NeoTron | the guild listings in the armory sure don't update very fast. char info seems to update upon logout. wonder how often they update the guild lists |
| 16:47.01 | [Ammo] | now I wonder where my wife is |
| 16:47.03 | [Ammo] | no food on the table |
| 16:47.06 | [Ammo] | no wife home |
| 16:47.11 | [Ammo] | grr |
| 16:47.28 | kenlyric | she left yo ass |
| 16:47.30 | [R]Ispide | durcyn : ok binaries and socket are ready :) what's next step ... edit the dataminer.lua file right ? i want to update only "cyclone EU" only for example... i comment the US thing at the end of the file ... or i have to do somehting else ? |
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| 16:47.49 | kenlyric | NeoTron: I suspect it has something to do with voodoo |
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| 16:48.42 | Xuerian | Curious, I was just about to bitch about files being dead. |
| 16:48.44 | durcyn | [R]Ispide: yeah, just set yours then run it. |
| 16:49.10 | winkiller | I may be totally off, but anyone knows some windows "dock" that just let's you put some buttons anywhere? like bartender for windows - and with performance.. |
| 16:49.33 | kenlyric | I still want to buy bartender for windows. |
| 16:49.39 | Wixti | mac os x? |
| 16:49.44 | NeoTron | kenlyric: does it help if I get a doll of the guild GM and poke it with needles? |
| 16:49.57 | Kaelten | someone should im me when something is wrong with the website |
| 16:49.58 | kenlyric | mac os has bars that are 10x the size of the windows one. |
| 16:50.01 | hyperChipmunk | [R]Ispide: about 5 lines from the top there's a line to edit to enter your battlegroup |
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| 16:51.13 | [R]Ispide | hyperChipmunk ok i setted up my battlegroup in the top 5 line |
| 16:51.53 | NeoTron | spout = moron check |
| 16:52.24 | [R]Ispide | hyperChipmunk: do i have to comment the "doregion(....)" at the end of the file also ? or the modify at the top of the file was enough? |
| 16:53.35 | renchap | what happens with my server ? oO |
| 16:53.42 | renchap | i have a lot of wowace download |
| 16:53.55 | Xuerian | Kaelten: But, but, I don't have your im. |
| 16:54.09 | Kaelten | my name at gmail.com |
| 16:54.11 | hyperChipmunk | [R]Ispide: modify at the top is all you need |
| 16:54.21 | Xuerian | msn or jabber? 0_o |
| 16:54.24 | Kaelten | its my email and my im name |
| 16:54.29 | Kaelten | msn aim and gtalk |
| 16:54.39 | Xuerian | That works :p |
| 16:54.46 | [R]Ispide | hyperChipmunk: ok and now how do i run that script ? :D |
| 16:54.53 | Kaelten | renchap how many you have? |
| 16:55.29 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: 10% reduc seems to work fine =X |
| 16:55.39 | renchap | 50 req/s |
| 16:56.07 | renchap | and 10 2 hours ago |
| 16:56.18 | renchap | thats not too much, but in dont know why :p |
| 16:57.00 | Xuerian | ps. Assessment is win. |
| 16:57.24 | Xuerian | wtb recap interface for it though :( |
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| 16:57.30 | Kaelten | lightty was off on wowace.com but I have no idea why |
| 16:58.09 | Xuerian | Odd 0.o |
| 16:58.23 | Kaelten | Uptime8 min 19 s |
| 16:58.25 | Kaelten | Started at2007-06-14 12:49:34 |
| 16:58.27 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 16:58.29 | Kaelten | Requests19 kreq |
| 16:58.30 | Kaelten | Traffic3.80 Gbyte |
| 16:58.31 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: KTM fakemessages <3 |
| 16:58.32 | Kaelten | lol, people are making up for it though |
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| 16:59.47 | Xuerian | Kaelten: .... |
| 16:59.55 | Kaelten | ? |
| 16:59.56 | Xuerian | 3.8gb in 8 minutes? 0_o |
| 16:59.59 | Kaelten | yep |
| 17:00.11 | Kaelten | 4.88 in 10 min |
| 17:00.12 | Xuerian | Holy hell on a hatrack. |
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| 17:00.40 | Kaelten | its fairly common, honestly. |
| 17:00.44 | Kaelten | right now we're a little high |
| 17:00.50 | Kaelten | its doing about 7MB/s |
| 17:01.14 | Xuerian | heheh.. |
| 17:01.46 | renchap | i have 75MB/s here |
| 17:01.54 | renchap | but with more than 1 server :) |
| 17:02.27 | steev64 | heh |
| 17:02.58 | Kaelten | wowace downloads? |
| 17:03.06 | renchap | no :D |
| 17:03.09 | renchap | @ work |
| 17:03.10 | Kaelten | I didn't think so |
| 17:03.12 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 17:38.34 | kaiden | Heya all, Anyone know of a mod that can forward tells you get on 1 character to a different character (trying to find one that's already out there before i just write one :P) |
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| 17:40.44 | trh | kaiden: /dnd write to <name> ;) |
| 17:41.13 | SkorcherX | fluidframes fixed it |
| 17:41.18 | SkorcherX | woot go fluidframes |
| 17:41.19 | kaiden | trh, not everyone pays attention to that though and i've often had my dnd tag disappear |
| 17:41.47 | trh | kaiden: well.. anyway.. chat forward should be like 10 lines of code ;) |
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| 17:42.21 | kaiden | hence me saying trying to find one that they've already written before i just go do it myself :) |
| 17:42.50 | kaiden | and i imagine it very well could be more confusing than that especially if you want to stop infinite loops (ie whispering yourself) :P |
| 17:44.08 | xt | Antiarc|Work: omen not working again |
| 17:44.09 | xt | :( |
| 17:44.33 | hyperChipmunk | how come you can't thumbs-down Kenco's comments |
| 17:45.09 | ulic | the author is always right ;) |
| 17:45.24 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Details? |
| 17:45.30 | Antiarc|Work | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268588 |
| 17:45.31 | Antiarc|Work | >_> |
| 17:45.58 | Gngsk | omg why are bulkmail tablets not staying where I put then after I lock 'em? |
| 17:46.33 | Cryect | So Antiarc|Work you know of any languages (besides inline functions) where "Each function call requires the C-Lua interface to push the function call and its arguments onto the lua state's stack, call the function, and then pop any return values off the stack." isn't true :-p |
| 17:46.58 | trh | Antiarc|Work: n1 |
| 17:47.04 | Antiarc|Work | No, but Kenco seems to think that function calls are free :P |
| 17:47.23 | Antiarc|Work | He's given examples in the past that "function a() end doesn't do anything and so it takes no time" |
| 17:47.24 | Cryect | Yeah I'm not really sure why he has like 6 functions calls per real function call ever |
| 17:47.43 | Antiarc|Work | The problem is more that all his handlers are run indiscriminately every frame |
| 17:47.45 | Antiarc|Work | For example -- |
| 17:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: because you're a moron |
| 17:48.25 | Antiarc|Work | Every frame, KTM checks a) are you a hunter? b) If you are, are you feigning death? c) If so, then has it been more than 0.5 sec since the last time we passed (c)? |
| 17:48.31 | Fisker- | pastamancer |
| 17:48.37 | Antiarc|Work | Even if you're not a hunter. |
| 17:48.44 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 17:48.45 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, fix me! |
| 17:48.51 | trh | Antiarc|Work: omg... crazy stuff |
| 17:48.54 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously, why would you even -run- that code for non-hunters? |
| 17:48.54 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc|Work |
| 17:48.55 | hyperChipmunk | you might have changed |
| 17:49.04 | Fisker- | they knew about the enhtooltip bug O_o |
| 17:49.11 | Cryect | yeah I might change my class often |
| 17:49.28 | hyperChipmunk | I change my class at least every three frames |
| 17:49.30 | hyperChipmunk | sometimes more |
| 17:49.31 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Its actually a possibility to chagne classes |
| 17:49.36 | Cryect | if you're a GM :-p |
| 17:49.46 | Antiarc|Work | The GMs can reload their damn UI! |
| 17:49.49 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, they seem to like it under the MailFrame |
| 17:49.51 | Cryect | haha |
| 17:50.00 | kebinusan | wouldnt you just run some event when a person casts feign death or comes out of it? |
| 17:50.14 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 17:50.18 | Cryect | friend has some amusing stories about GM's fooling around like that on GM Island on the PTRs :-p |
| 17:50.29 | Cryect | well kenco says |
| 17:50.34 | Antiarc|Work | If you were not assuming that the entire frame's CPU time belonged to you. |
| 17:50.35 | Cryect | that event driven is bad |
| 17:50.41 | Cryect | and we should poll instead |
| 17:50.42 | Antiarc|Work | You might miss events! |
| 17:50.50 | Cryect | because you might feign death 30 times a frame |
| 17:51.08 | Cryect | thats the part that really confuses me |
| 17:51.11 | Antiarc|Work | Arrrrrrgh. This is just frustrating. |
| 17:51.21 | trh | Cryect: hehe.. ya.. exactly.. that's why even the 80x86 developers integrated interrupt support into their hardware |
| 17:51.22 | Cryect | a player only triggers like 3 or 4 threat generating events a second max normally |
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| 17:51.41 | Dustwhisper | Is there any nice Chatframe addon? Something that lets you use tabbing/hotkeys to switch between chatframes, or change them via mouseover? Or something |
| 17:51.55 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: clarify |
| 17:51.56 | Dustwhisper | and is there any addon that will show/hide a texture/panel depending on an event? Eg only show it when someone is targeted |
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| 17:52.22 | trh | Cryect: hell, he could just safehook castspellbyname or check combatlog or anything to check if feign death gets activated |
| 17:52.45 | Cryect | but he might miss it! |
| 17:52.58 | Cryect | because his computer is going to goto sleep |
| 17:53.03 | Cryect | and forget to look at events |
| 17:53.03 | trh | Dustwhisper: i don't think so, but it's relatively easy to code for specific stuff |
| 17:54.08 | Cryect | I mean I can think of cases like a reloadui relogin etc where you might be in some strange state where you need to figure out where you are but... those aren't common and you can check your state then not every frame |
| 17:54.26 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, http://ctscreens.net/7542 |
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| 17:56.02 | Kaelten | wtf changed in the latest versions of acelocale2.2 |
| 17:56.05 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: it moved there itself? |
| 17:56.09 | Charise | helo, anyone here use cartographer ? o.O |
| 17:56.19 | trh | Charise: a few i gues s;) |
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| 17:56.36 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: ckknight did some stuff for strict optimizations |
| 17:56.39 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, yeah and no matter what I do I can't get it to not be there. I have to manually shrink the MailFrame to move it. Then when I lock it and /rl it's back there |
| 17:56.48 | Kaelten | ya and brok everything |
| 17:56.49 | hyperChipmunk | Charise: just ask your question; if someone can help you, they will |
| 17:56.49 | Charise | trh: ah, do u have any ideas if cartographer has a command to add coordinates ? |
| 17:56.57 | Charise | hyperChipmunk: lol ok |
| 17:56.58 | Kaelten | ... |
| 17:57.00 | trh | Charise: /note <x>, <y> |
| 17:57.03 | Charise | lol =P |
| 17:57.06 | Charise | i didn't know sorry |
| 17:57.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's common mistake; no biggie |
| 17:57.24 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, inbox version http://ctscreens.net/7543 |
| 17:57.37 | Josh_Borke | revert? |
| 17:57.39 | Charise | can u label the coords u just added ? |
| 17:57.42 | dodgizzla | Hm, when enabling item collapsing in Sanity 2 it does not collapse the items :\ |
| 17:57.47 | Fisker- | he knows Gngsk |
| 17:57.50 | trh | Charise: type /note |
| 17:57.50 | Fisker- | or i'm gonna rape him |
| 17:57.54 | trh | Charise: and read ^^ |
| 17:58.00 | Charise | trh: okay thankie |
| 17:58.06 | hyperChipmunk | people come here spend 5 minutes asking if anyone can answer their question, and they would have gotten it answered in 5 seconds if they'd just asked it right off |
| 17:58.21 | trh | hyperChipmunk: the old problem of metaquestions |
| 17:58.28 | hyperChipmunk | precisely |
| 17:58.40 | Cryect | should get purl to tell them no |
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| 17:59.03 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: well, tell it to stop doing that |
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| 17:59.06 | hyperChipmunk | wb CIA-22 |
| 17:59.46 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: can you /dump BulkMail.db.profile.tablet_data for me? |
| 17:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | or in fact |
| 18:00.20 | hyperChipmunk | no, do that first =) |
| 18:00.27 | hyperChipmunk | let me know what it says |
| 18:00.30 | Shamino_ | german client user got this error from my addon. "Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not." |
| 18:00.45 | Shamino_ | how does AceLocal know that enUS is the base locale ? |
| 18:00.48 | hyperChipmunk | then /run BulkMail.db.profile.tablet_data = nil and reload and see if it fixes it |
| 18:00.52 | trh | Shamino_: someone wrote = true in the deDE translation |
| 18:01.13 | Shamino_ | no, i understand the problem. i'm questioning why enUS is the base locale ? |
| 18:01.14 | hyperChipmunk | Shamino_: because enUS is better than deDE |
| 18:01.17 | Shamino_ | lol |
| 18:01.22 | trh | Shamino_: the first one that got registered |
| 18:01.23 | Shamino_ | fair enough |
| 18:01.28 | trh | Shamino_: that one is the base locale |
| 18:01.34 | Shamino_ | ah i see. order of operastions |
| 18:01.39 | Gngsk | hyperChipmunk, http://ace.pastey.net/56867 |
| 18:01.47 | hyperChipmunk | don't listen to him |
| 18:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | it's because enUS is better |
| 18:02.47 | trh | hyperChipmunk: rly? |
| 18:02.52 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten 07AceLocale-StrictOptimizations * r39901 10Ace2/: Ace2 - making a branch for recent changes. |
| 18:02.54 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 18:03.15 | hyperChipmunk | >8*( |
| 18:03.44 | hyperChipmunk | deDE ppl smell bad |
| 18:03.46 | hyperChipmunk | that's why |
| 18:04.01 | trh | hyperChipmunk: when i tried it out it was the first localization that got registered :P |
| 18:04.04 | Gnarfoz | ppl who play deDE smell :p I am deDE but play enGB ;p |
| 18:04.24 | trh | ppl that play deDE surely have a diseased mind :P |
| 18:04.29 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 18:04.34 | Xuerian | I can see Kenco getting pissed in his thread, even if it's unreasonable |
| 18:04.34 | hyperChipmunk | trh: no i'm pretty sure it's because deDE ppl smell |
| 18:04.53 | trh | hyperChipmunk: how does wowace register that? :P |
| 18:05.03 | trh | hyperChipmunk: does the computer got hidden sensors? |
| 18:05.04 | Kuja^ | err, i would probaly know if i do :P |
| 18:05.09 | hyperChipmunk | if deDE then smell |
| 18:05.29 | trh | hyperChipmunk: no variable named smell found in AceLocale-2.2.lua |
| 18:05.44 | yacoob | that's hidden call of blizz api |
| 18:05.46 | hyperChipmunk | it just knows okay? |
| 18:05.55 | Kuja^ | hyperChipmunk: prove it ;) |
| 18:06.05 | hyperChipmunk | the proof would destroy your mind |
| 18:06.11 | yacoob | now go grind some spellcloth or hyperChipmunk will bash you again |
| 18:06.11 | trh | hyperChipmunk: cool.. so it's a non-deterministic turing machine? |
| 18:06.14 | Kuja^ | it is already |
| 18:06.20 | Kuja^ | so it makes no differece |
| 18:06.25 | hyperChipmunk | and render you sterile |
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| 18:06.39 | yacoob | and turn him into a newt! |
| 18:07.19 | trh | Saint-N: i don't think anyone cares ;) |
| 18:07.27 | Gngsk | I care deeply |
| 18:07.42 | trh | doubt that |
| 18:07.44 | yacoob | get a room |
| 18:07.59 | Cryect | trh how does a nondeterministic turing machine destroy one's mind exactly? |
| 18:08.16 | Kuja^ | so, autoaway does smell deDE not :) |
| 18:08.39 | Cryect | Heh the idea didn't seem to kill too many CS majors back in college from what I recall but maybe its the physics behind it that we haven't figured out that will destroy our minds |
| 18:08.53 | trh | Cryect: by letting you prove it exists :P |
| 18:09.04 | Kaelten | ok I've reverted AceLocale pending further changes |
| 18:09.20 | Kaelten | er pending further testing |
| 18:09.21 | Saint-N | yeah i keep forgetting to save the setting after i disable it ;) |
| 18:09.36 | Funkeh` | these drastic changes should never be implemented like this |
| 18:09.38 | trh | Cryect: or having you to build one with O(N) runtime ;) |
| 18:09.41 | Funkeh` | its the major source of problems |
| 18:09.47 | Funkeh` | either make a 2.3 or branch and test |
| 18:10.11 | Cryect | just imagine the sort of polling Kenco could do with a nondeterministic turing machine |
| 18:10.30 | Cryect | Could everything at once and fast! |
| 18:10.41 | trh | Cryect: with a non-deterministic turing machine you would just guess the correct threat values and voila |
| 18:10.54 | trh | Cryect: but i bet even that code could kenco fuck up |
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| 18:11.12 | hyperChipmunk | you'd have to first check for FD |
| 18:11.32 | Cryect | I never liked the idea of saying it just guesses the right value magically so much as it just follows all paths at once :-p |
| 18:11.49 | xt | Antiarc|Work: what happens, is same as yesterday |
| 18:11.56 | xt | Antiarc|Work: suddenly MT stops publishing |
| 18:12.01 | xt | or atleast I cant see his updates |
| 18:12.08 | trh | Cryect: well.. basically it follows all paths at once, and gets the correct value by that |
| 18:12.17 | Antiarc|Work | xt: And he updated? |
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| 18:12.25 | xt | it was working yesterday |
| 18:12.26 | hyperChipmunk | Gngsk: did you try /run BulkMail.db.profile = nil and /rl? |
| 18:12.28 | xt | and it's working partly |
| 18:13.57 | xt | he had like 88k threat |
| 18:13.59 | xt | and then it stopped |
| 18:14.04 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 18:14.11 | Antiarc|Work | You just stopped receiving updates? |
| 18:14.15 | xt | everyone |
| 18:14.16 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: if you reverted AceLocale, did CIA just not pick it up, or did you do it in some secret way? ^^ |
| 18:14.22 | Antiarc|Work | Did he still see updates on his end? |
| 18:14.26 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/functionProfiler.lua <_< |
| 18:14.30 | [Ammo] | is there a cooldown check for macros? |
| 18:14.33 | Kaelten | CIA is either behind or missed it |
| 18:14.35 | xt | Antiarc|Work: yes |
| 18:14.35 | hyperChipmunk | Gnarfoz: cia has been out to lunch |
| 18:14.39 | [Ammo] | so if I do: /use 14 it won't error if it's on cooldown |
| 18:14.44 | hyperChipmunk | he just came back |
| 18:14.50 | Gnarfoz | hyperChipmunk: it caught the branching stuff |
| 18:14.50 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Ok. Thanks, I'll see if I can track it down. |
| 18:14.58 | Gnarfoz | ah, maybe that was just the last commit ^^ |
| 18:15.08 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: ya not sure why it happened but I've confirmed the reverting worked |
| 18:15.45 | Kaelten | I want to bring better practices to the development of Ace2 and its libs, I'm sure our authors get pissed when they can't do anything because something is bugged |
| 18:15.51 | Kaelten | I know I do. |
| 18:16.16 | hyperChipmunk | what changed exactly? |
| 18:16.24 | Gnarfoz | effecitvely? nothing ;p |
| 18:16.39 | Ominous | im not bothered really, things break in addon development, changes break addons, but can be fixed |
| 18:16.42 | nevcairiel | the usual, someone had a great idea howto rework some internals, and it breaks upgrade path |
| 18:17.19 | Josh_Borke | Ominous: in the case the problem was that it broke every addon that used AceLocale |
| 18:17.25 | Gnarfoz | a revert still bumps the revision, though, right? so in a few minutes files.* will get it, too? |
| 18:17.29 | hyperChipmunk | well clearly that's everyone else's falt |
| 18:17.32 | hyperChipmunk | fault* |
| 18:17.33 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 18:17.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yup |
| 18:17.49 | Josh_Borke | hyperChipmunk: exactly. externals are a broken mechanic and addons should be developed against static files |
| 18:17.50 | Gnarfoz | k, just checking my brain works fine ;P |
| 18:18.03 | Gnarfoz | s/my/if my/ |
| 18:18.15 | Skyboat | clearly not :p |
| 18:18.18 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: it still wouldve broken if one of your addons uses the new version, and the older addons use another. |
| 18:18.30 | Josh_Borke | ah, right |
| 18:18.37 | hyperChipmunk | ~seen mikk |
| 18:18.41 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 4h 38m 31s ago, saying: 'And on that note, I'm off to greece for a week. SEEYA SUCKERS! \o/'. |
| 18:18.52 | kebinusan | build addons for files against tagged versions of libraries? |
| 18:18.52 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.53 | ckknight_ | Saroz: missing? |
| 18:19.06 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 18:19.13 | Skyboat | since when are you away from WoW when in Greece? 90% of the country play it :> |
| 18:19.26 | hyperChipmunk | away from us |
| 18:19.26 | ckknight_ | moonsorrow: what's the grouping style? |
| 18:19.30 | ckknight_ | syeren: ? |
| 18:19.31 | Xuerian | lol |
| 18:19.39 | ckknight_ | trh: yea |
| 18:19.41 | Josh_Borke | kebinusan: heresy |
| 18:19.47 | ckknight_ | AKX: you have |
| 18:20.07 | Gnarfoz | lol, replying to several highlights that happened while away looks awkward to others ;D |
| 18:20.25 | ckknight_ | yes |
| 18:20.30 | AKX | OK, good ckknight_. |
| 18:20.36 | AKX | I keep finding lovely things in PitBull. <3. |
| 18:20.52 | ckknight | wait, so is AceLocale-2.2 currently broken? |
| 18:21.04 | Gnarfoz | no, reverted to usable |
| 18:21.19 | ckknight | which revision is that |
| 18:21.22 | Kaelten | it was broken |
| 18:21.28 | ckknight | I gotta shower |
| 18:21.31 | Kaelten | I reverted it back after creating a tag with the changes |
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| 18:21.49 | Fisker- | ~seen mikord |
| 18:21.50 | purl | mikord <n=noone@cpe-68-206-159-82.hot.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 149d 21h 9m 15s ago, saying: 'right. I was just saying there was something to do with tooltips'. |
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| 18:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | r39902 | kaelten | 2007-06-14 14:04:29 -0400 (Thu, 14 Jun 2007) | 1 line |
| 18:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | Ace2 - Reverting AceLocale Changes pending further testing. |
| 18:22.16 | trh | ckknight: noticed a bug (maybe it's not tablets fault) with tablet, when i use a detached tooltip and drag it by clicking on a line thats clikable (gets highlighted) the stopdragging never occurs |
| 18:22.24 | trh | ckknight: and the tooltip is stuck to my cursor forever |
| 18:22.27 | chutwig | pending always makes things sound so ominous |
| 18:22.36 | Kaelten | chutwig: lol |
| 18:22.39 | Ominous | heh |
| 18:23.03 | Tupsi | lol this is addon update stress before raids like in good old times |
| 18:23.13 | chutwig | pending a shotgun blast to the face |
| 18:23.36 | kenlyric | no stress. |
| 18:23.37 | Tupsi | just experiencing the full blown variaty of compter noobs in my whsipers |
| 18:23.42 | kenlyric | just revert back to your working copy. |
| 18:23.50 | chutwig | my users are all scared of me today because i yelled at somebody this morning |
| 18:23.55 | chutwig | full-on BOFH mode today |
| 18:24.13 | Cryect | sounds good! |
| 18:24.18 | Gnarfoz | should do that every day |
| 18:24.23 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:24.30 | chutwig | it is better to be feared than loved |
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| 18:25.31 | Skyboat | except warlocks, who can cast both |
| 18:26.27 | chutwig | ow i reactivated omen and babble exploded in my face |
| 18:26.29 | kenlyric | ba dum bump |
| 18:26.55 | Fisker- | anyone know how to make a macro that casts on yourself when using [modifier:alt]? |
| 18:27.14 | Gnarfoz | target=player ? |
| 18:27.37 | trh | ckknight: happened btw with expo, not sure if tablet is supposed to stop dragging or expo |
| 18:28.02 | Skyboat | . /cast [modifier:alt, target=player] Spellname(Rank etc) |
| 18:28.18 | ulic | I think it would be "/cast [target=player,modifier:alt] buffme" |
| 18:28.24 | ulic | yea, what skyboat said :) |
| 18:29.01 | Skyboat | I <3 the new macro system |
| 18:29.19 | Kaelten | chutwig: I always hope to be respected rather than feared though. |
| 18:29.25 | Fisker- | and if i need another spell there? |
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| 18:29.36 | Skyboat | depends what else you want the button/spell to do |
| 18:29.36 | Fisker- | just put ; otherspell after it? |
| 18:29.41 | Fisker- | same spell |
| 18:29.41 | Skyboat | yes |
| 18:29.46 | chutwig | Kaelten: sometimes you just have to make do with being a benevolent dictator |
| 18:29.47 | Fisker- | alright |
| 18:29.51 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 18:30.09 | Cryect | Screw benevolence, stick with the dictator though |
| 18:30.17 | ulic | Fisker-: you know there are a TON of examples on wowwiki.com right? |
| 18:30.25 | Kaelten | chutwig: am I a benevolent dictator? or a respected leader? |
| 18:30.35 | Kaelten | chutwig: or a delusional wannabe? |
| 18:30.36 | Kaelten | :) |
| 18:30.44 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39904 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: Threat-1.0: fix spelling in kael module |
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| 18:31.09 | chutwig | getäuscht |
| 18:31.18 | Jadeee | hi |
| 18:31.19 | Kaelten | getauscht? |
| 18:31.45 | Jadeee | sagt ma fix wasn addon am besten is zum minimap buttons verschieben transparent machen und größe ändern |
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| 18:32.14 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 18:32.20 | nevcairiel | chances are, that noone will answer you when you ask in german :D |
| 18:32.20 | hyperChipmunk | you put the new guy in foreign mode |
| 18:32.23 | chutwig | where is gnarfoz |
| 18:32.28 | chutwig | i speak german, not internet german |
| 18:32.29 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 18:32.35 | chutwig | internet german is a horrible thing |
| 18:32.41 | nevcairiel | like internet english |
| 18:32.42 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:32.44 | nevcairiel | but you get used to it |
| 18:32.45 | Kaelten | internet german? |
| 18:32.48 | hyperChipmunk | nevcairiel: the first thing he saw upon entering was german though |
| 18:33.00 | Jadeee | i ned a addon which resizes my minimap buttons and changens their alpha |
| 18:33.00 | nevcairiel | hyperChipmunk: i know, i wanted to comment on it, but you beat me to it :D |
| 18:33.05 | Gnarfoz | don't know an addon that does what he wants |
| 18:33.21 | Gnarfoz | don't have any minimap buttons, fubar <3 |
| 18:33.23 | hyperChipmunk | visor |
| 18:33.43 | chutwig | visor for that is like taking out an anthill with a nuke |
| 18:33.53 | Jadeee | ty |
| 18:33.56 | nevcairiel | it works(tm) |
| 18:33.56 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:34.04 | hyperChipmunk | yea but minimap buttons aren't categorized easily |
| 18:34.31 | Skyboat | (19:34:06) (chutwig) visor for that is like taking out an anthill with a nuke <-- lol |
| 18:34.34 | Gnarfoz | every addon does "their own"(tm) |
| 18:34.41 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 18:35.01 | hyperChipmunk | you gotta go them individually |
| 18:36.20 | kenlyric | where did the bulkmail window go? |
| 18:36.51 | Peoii | holy errors batman |
| 18:37.11 | Peoii | [2007/06/14 11:32:05-110-x77]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2384: attempt to index local 'info' (a number value):Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2351: in function `ChatFrame_OnEvent':<string>:"*:OnEvent":1: in function <[string "*:OnEvent"]:1> |
| 18:37.19 | Peoii | I'm getting a ton of those... now to figure out what's causing it. |
| 18:37.29 | Skyboat | that is....really ambiguous |
| 18:37.32 | Peoii | Aye |
| 18:37.44 | Peoii | It's not giving me any addon names at all in bugsack. |
| 18:37.45 | Skyboat | all I can say is goodluck finding the culprit lol |
| 18:37.45 | Dustwhisper | is there some way to get Eavesdrop to show in combat and not OOC whilst grid only shows OOC but not in combat? |
| 18:37.48 | Dustwhisper | so i could overlay them |
| 18:37.51 | Dustwhisper | and have each show at diff times |
| 18:40.01 | Skyboat | could code an addon to do it I guess |
| 18:41.51 | Zeksie | Peoii, is usually a dodgy macro that causes chatframe.lua errors |
| 18:42.34 | Peoii | Zeksie: Actually, I found the offending addon. |
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| 18:43.07 | Peoii | PhanxChat beta5 + latest ace changes == bad juju. le-sigh. off to replace. |
| 18:43.23 | ckknight | is CIA-22 back and working? |
| 18:43.46 | hyperChipmunk | seems to be for now |
| 18:43.50 | ckknight | Kaelten: so what were the errors with AceLocale-2.2 that it needed to be reverted? |
| 18:44.09 | Kaelten | it broke every addon I have installed that used aceLocale |
| 18:44.17 | Kaelten | saying functions weren't available ect. |
| 18:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: seems the 'breaking everything' was the only thing that was implemented correctly |
| 18:44.51 | ckknight | but I fixed that in the last revision I made, Kaelten |
| 18:44.59 | Kaelten | nope |
| 18:45.01 | ckknight | bah |
| 18:45.03 | Kaelten | it was still happening |
| 18:45.08 | Kaelten | I was at head |
| 18:45.12 | Kaelten | and it was fubared |
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| 18:45.53 | hyperChipmunk | testing core library elements is for weenies anyway |
| 18:46.12 | ckknight | I did test... |
| 18:46.13 | ckknight | weird |
| 18:46.19 | Tornhoof | 39877 worked fine here |
| 18:46.28 | Tornhoof | while 39860 or something didn't work |
| 18:47.13 | ckknight | was there another commit after that, Tornhoof? |
| 18:47.21 | Dustwhisper | someone should create a Panel/frame addon that lets put addons on those panels and have those pannels work as the chat frames (you have tabs choosing which panel is showing) |
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| 18:47.50 | Tornhoof | not sure ckkknight, the i didn't upgrade later than 39877 |
| 18:48.10 | Tornhoof | i just know the commit time difference was less then 5minutes |
| 18:48.30 | hyperChipmunk | r39999 | ckknight | - AceLibrary: drycoded tons of changes, too many to list here. Let me know if anything breaks. I'll be back in a few days. |
| 18:48.34 | ckknight | pre-r39868 was broken |
| 18:48.41 | weab | Dustwhisper: like a virtual desktop manager for your ui? |
| 18:49.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh dude |
| 18:49.06 | Dustwhisper | yes weab |
| 18:49.09 | Dustwhisper | something like that |
| 18:49.10 | hyperChipmunk | virtual desktops in wow would be awesome |
| 18:49.16 | Dustwhisper | and also let you hook events to the panels |
| 18:49.22 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r39905 10AutoBarConfig/ (4 files): |
| 18:49.22 | CIA-22 | AutoBarConfig: |
| 18:49.22 | CIA-22 | -- maxn -> # |
| 18:49.22 | CIA-22 | -- Fix some variable names |
| 18:49.26 | Dustwhisper | so that i could do what i thought about, Grid showing OOC, Eavesdrop show In combat |
| 18:49.31 | Dustwhisper | and have them switch automaticly between them |
| 18:49.33 | Dustwhisper | saving desktop space |
| 18:49.47 | hyperChipmunk | would be a beast and a half to code |
| 18:50.25 | ckknight | Kaelten: was it broken for enUS as well as stuff like deDE? |
| 18:50.37 | Kaelten | yep |
| 18:50.46 | ckknight | why didn't it break for me? |
| 18:50.46 | Kaelten | it caused most of my addons to load incompletely |
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| 18:50.54 | Kaelten | I don't know :s |
| 18:50.56 | ckknight | when I was at r39877 |
| 18:51.00 | ckknight | it worked perfectly |
| 18:51.09 | ckknight | I seriously think you had a previous revision |
| 18:51.33 | Kaelten | I updated to 39877 and thats what caused the issues |
| 18:51.53 | Kaelten | I added it to a addon I was working on. |
| 18:51.54 | ckknight | Kaelten: was it an embedded upgrade path error or something? |
| 18:51.57 | Kaelten | so I know it was trunk |
| 18:52.06 | Josh_Borke | could you try bumping the major? |
| 18:52.09 | Kaelten | not sure buggrabber's throttle turned off. |
| 18:52.18 | Tornhoof | i used svn update for yata to get 39877 |
| 18:52.30 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: no |
| 18:52.34 | Tornhoof | and replaced my non embedded ace2\acelocale file |
| 18:52.34 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 18:52.42 | Dustwhisper | hyperChipmunk just hook addons to panels as parent and just hide all children on deselect |
| 18:52.53 | Tornhoof | and all the can't find functions errors went away |
| 18:52.54 | Dustwhisper | theoreticaly though i have no idea how WOW scripting works |
| 18:53.05 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: why not? just curious |
| 18:53.40 | Kaelten | ckknight: we can work off the branch and see if we can figure it out and then merge it back. |
| 18:53.48 | Kaelten | it could have been an upgrade path issue |
| 18:53.54 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: too many things depend on it, it'd be a bitch to upgrade everything when they're absolutely no API change. A whole new Babble would need to be made. Due to the lack of API change, a new major version is ludicrous |
| 18:54.10 | ckknight | Kaelten: so you _were_ running embedded? |
| 18:54.24 | Kaelten | yes the updated copy was embedded |
| 18:54.28 | hyperChipmunk | i really ought to start making my externals point to tags |
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| 18:54.38 | Kaelten | I didn't see the upgrade path error because the mass number of errors though. |
| 18:54.44 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: oh, alright. |
| 18:54.47 | hyperChipmunk | probably should be standard practice for all Ace2 core libs |
| 18:54.49 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: that'd probably be a good philosphey |
| 18:55.08 | ckknight | meh, I think that's an overreaction |
| 18:55.21 | hyperChipmunk | I don't |
| 18:55.30 | Kaelten | ckknight: to prevent things like this from happening its a good idea |
| 18:55.37 | kenlyric | dogs bark. |
| 18:55.41 | Kaelten | I'll setup a system that'll work |
| 18:55.41 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r39906 10AutoBar/AutoBarProfile.lua: |
| 18:55.41 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 18:55.41 | CIA-22 | -- 2.01.00.03 beta release |
| 18:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | remember AceEvent? |
| 18:55.43 | Tornhoof | just if someone cares: http://ace.pastey.net/56869 that's the ver which works here |
| 18:55.50 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: and we got through that |
| 18:55.54 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 18:56.02 | ckknight | eventually |
| 18:56.06 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 18:56.10 | Kaelten | the eventually part is the issue though |
| 18:56.22 | hyperChipmunk | people were coming in for weeks >8*( |
| 18:56.22 | Kaelten | ace2 has a responsibility to the addons that uses them |
| 18:56.26 | kergoth | lern2unittest |
| 18:56.32 | Hotphoenix | could someone take a look at ash_core its filling buggraber with errors :> |
| 18:56.35 | Kaelten | we're doing more than 1.5m downloads a day off of files. |
| 18:56.39 | Kaelten | we have to respect that. |
| 18:57.17 | Cryect | kergoth: Offering to build in all the unit testing? :-p |
| 18:57.39 | hyperChipmunk | that way developers can keep their embeds straight, and testing new lib stuff can be achieved simply by grabbing the Ace2 standalone |
| 18:57.43 | Hotphoenix | [2007/06/14 19:32:51-901-x4944]: Ash_Core\TimerLib.lua:1156: attempt to get length of field '?' (a nil value)DoTimer\DoTimer.lua:525 <snip> |
| 18:58.36 | kergoth | Cryect, i unit tested aceoo, and acelibrary received minimal unit testing, but it was never continued for the rest of ace2. |
| 18:59.00 | Ominous | unit testing? |
| 18:59.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39907 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: |
| 18:59.52 | CIA-22 | .AceLocale-2.2 - change warnings to errors. |
| 18:59.52 | CIA-22 | Note: This doesn't do any metatable caching, as apparently that causes errors or something in the upgrade path. |
| 18:59.56 | ckknight | alright |
| 18:59.58 | Cryect | Unit Testing is where you have a bunch of functions that test to make sure your code is working right |
| 19:00.03 | hyperChipmunk | ~wiki unit testing |
| 19:00.05 | Cryect | tests all the cases and special border cases |
| 19:00.11 | ckknight | now I'm just not going to bother optimizing it |
| 19:00.16 | ckknight | cause it's just not worth it for me. |
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| 19:00.37 | ckknight | also, it should say "change errors to warnings" |
| 19:00.58 | steev64 | question - if i have externals, AND i have those externals standalone - which gets loaded? |
| 19:01.11 | Kaelten | steev64 both most likely. |
| 19:01.18 | mexicaan | Hi, when a SecureActionButton is clicked, does it create a click sound ? |
| 19:01.19 | Kaelten | with the most current copy staying in memory. |
| 19:01.20 | hyperChipmunk | whichever one is the most up-to-date |
| 19:02.08 | ckknight | Kaelten: I'm not gonna be messing with that branch btw, I'm just not gonna do the optimizations |
| 19:02.43 | Kaelten | thats your call. I'm not sure what you where trying to acheive. |
| 19:03.13 | durcyn | too many torches and pitchforks imo |
| 19:03.14 | ckknight | memory savings |
| 19:03.28 | Saroz | btw, anyone notice that lune 1822 violation.lua bug? |
| 19:03.29 | ckknight | but yea, I don't want to deal with finding the upgrade path error |
| 19:03.36 | winkiller | my PitBull ToT flickers |
| 19:03.38 | ckknight | or the users who bitch because of it |
| 19:03.43 | ckknight | winkiller: flickers how? |
| 19:03.43 | winkiller | anyone else got that? |
| 19:03.46 | durcyn | winkiller: that'd be combatfader |
| 19:04.00 | durcyn | more of a pulse than a flicker, yes? |
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| 19:04.03 | winkiller | I am OOC and the text on the ToT flickers |
| 19:04.16 | winkiller | no, absolutely hectic and fast |
| 19:04.20 | steev64 | fraps! |
| 19:04.21 | winkiller | like missing frames |
| 19:04.25 | Herio | "ukow" invokes the "reserved word" messake |
| 19:04.27 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc1-cove7-0-0-cust955.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:04.32 | alext | Hotphoenix: just report it to the developer via curse-gaming.com comments or email |
| 19:04.36 | alext | he responds |
| 19:04.38 | Herio | perhaps it's a gold spammer prevention thing |
| 19:04.40 | alext | and fixes things actively |
| 19:04.44 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: getting a bad error on kael mdule when an add dies |
| 19:04.45 | alext | make sure your using that latest too |
| 19:04.49 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: lemme get it a sec |
| 19:04.50 | alext | which is something.something.24 |
| 19:04.54 | Antiarc|Work | Ok |
| 19:04.56 | mexicaan | Hi, when a Button that inherits SecureActionButton is clicked, does it create a click sound ? |
| 19:05.26 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r39908 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Fix for tonumber() returning nil (prob. some bullshit data coming through) |
| 19:05.36 | hyperChipmunk | do actionbuttons even make click sounds? |
| 19:05.58 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: threat-1.0:801 table index is nil |
| 19:06.02 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r39909 10KC_PlayerFramePlus/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:06.02 | CIA-22 | KC_PlayerFramePlus: |
| 19:06.02 | CIA-22 | - Added localization support. |
| 19:06.02 | CIA-22 | - Added enUS locale file. |
| 19:06.11 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 19:06.11 | Funkeh` | every time an advisor dies |
| 19:06.46 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: I suspect that's due to someone in your raid having an old version, now that I look at it |
| 19:06.49 | hyperChipmunk | mexicaan: I don't think actionbuttons make click sound |
| 19:06.51 | Antiarc|Work | But I'm not sure. I'll add a check anyway. |
| 19:07.07 | hyperChipmunk | actionbuttons are the ones your abilities are on |
| 19:07.32 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: thanks |
| 19:07.39 | mexicaan | hyperChipmunk: Ok thanks, Bartender buttons do make a sound when clicked, so I assume I could find the the click cound in there |
| 19:07.48 | winkiller | ckknight: ok, if myself or noc ==ToT it's fine, but if it's a player the text on it is redrawn some time per sec, looks weird |
| 19:07.58 | winkiller | *noc=npc |
| 19:08.15 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@dsl027-181-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 19:09.08 | hyperChipmunk | mexicaan: they do? i never noticed |
| 19:09.12 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r54h77.res.gatech.edu) |
| 19:10.20 | Xuerian | It's a quiet tick :p |
| 19:10.29 | mexicaan | hyperChipmunk: They do, and i'm trying to mute them |
| 19:12.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea, if mine are making them, it's awfully faint |
| 19:12.37 | hyperChipmunk | easily covered by the normal spell sounds |
| 19:13.48 | hyperChipmunk | oh, hey, i guess they do |
| 19:14.18 | hyperChipmunk | wow, there's a lot of sound i'd been missing |
| 19:14.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39910 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - if you join a raid/leave a raid, update all frames. |
| 19:15.18 | hyperChipmunk | ~these blades edge crystals are really annoying |
| 19:15.18 | purl | hyperChipmunk: what are you talking about? |
| 19:15.26 | hyperChipmunk | shup purl |
| 19:15.41 | Peoii | hyperChipmunk: Which crystals? |
| 19:16.12 | hyperChipmunk | the ones that make noise |
| 19:16.33 | moonsorrow | ckknight: will this commit fix the similar bug when joining a different group in a raid? |
| 19:16.42 | hyperChipmunk | explains why they call it Singing Ridge |
| 19:16.49 | ckknight | no |
| 19:17.08 | ckknight | moonsorrow: and I asked you before and you didn't answer, what's your raid grouping style? |
| 19:17.20 | moonsorrow | oh sry, don't have any highlighting active currently :/ |
| 19:17.26 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: the relics? get ogri'lazy =) |
| 19:17.47 | moonsorrow | the raid frames aren't active, it's the party frames which act weird |
| 19:17.59 | ckknight | what was the issue? |
| 19:18.48 | Saroz | wut, tait erro when setting Main Assist, heh |
| 19:19.07 | ckknight | Saroz: here we use big people words |
| 19:19.13 | moonsorrow | one time 2 frames were overlapping and when I was moved in a caster group from a melee one, all the health and power bar colors weren't updated |
| 19:19.17 | Saroz | ckknight :( |
| 19:19.24 | hyperChipmunk | nono, I just put headphones on to hear the actionbutton click |
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| 19:19.34 | hyperChipmunk | i'm up by Crystal Spine |
| 19:19.58 | hyperChipmunk | and there's a constant background sound that i assume is being made by the crystals |
| 19:19.59 | ckknight | moonsorrow: and PTR's down, so I can't test... |
| 19:20.04 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39911 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Temporary fix for a nil sender in _setThreat. This isn't a valid case, and the cause needs to be tracked down. |
| 19:20.07 | Matrix110 | ckk allow us to place auras as in every normal other Unitframe in ABUF please: BBBBBBBB and under it DDDDDDDD and under it DDDDDDDD both from left to right and from up to down |
| 19:20.15 | ckknight | Matrix110: you do it. |
| 19:20.21 | Matrix110 | i cant:-( |
| 19:20.29 | ckknight | okay then |
| 19:20.33 | ckknight | why do you expect me to? |
| 19:20.53 | hyperChipmunk | Do you expect me to code? |
| 19:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | No, Mister Bond, I expect you to cry! |
| 19:21.08 | Matrix110 | uhm well change the aura module so you can do it |
| 19:21.40 | Matrix110 | so we can for example anchor the debuffs on the first buff |
| 19:21.40 | kenlyric | gimme gimme gimme I need I need |
| 19:21.43 | durcyn | Matrix110: this isn't a cafeteria, you don't just walk in and order code. |
| 19:21.47 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 19:22.07 | hyperChipmunk | over 6 billion served |
| 19:22.16 | Gamefaq | lol |
| 19:23.00 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r39912 10KC_PlayerFramePlus/localizations/enUS.lua: |
| 19:23.00 | CIA-22 | KC_PlayerFramePlus: |
| 19:23.00 | CIA-22 | - whoops forgot a bracket |
| 19:24.46 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39913 10Localizer/Localizer.lua: |
| 19:24.46 | CIA-22 | Localizer: |
| 19:24.46 | CIA-22 | - fixed syntax error in output file that's been bugging me for months |
| 19:24.52 | kenlyric | why in the *world* does the bulkmail frame default to opening behind the mailbox? |
| 19:25.00 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't! |
| 19:25.04 | kenlyric | it does! |
| 19:25.08 | hyperChipmunk | nuh uh! |
| 19:25.15 | kenlyric | both the toons I opened it up on. |
| 19:25.24 | hyperChipmunk | maybe you suck |
| 19:25.25 | kenlyric | the BMI box opens there too, but it's wide enough that you can see it. |
| 19:25.27 | hyperChipmunk | ever think of that? |
| 19:25.44 | kenlyric | it was my first thought |
| 19:26.26 | moonsorrow | ckknight: http://imageigloo.com/images/4117pitbull_bug.png , just want to show it |
| 19:26.50 | ckknight | hrm, okay |
| 19:28.34 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: hey that's pretty annoying |
| 19:28.44 | kenlyric | :) |
| 19:29.53 | kenlyric | is there an enchanting trainer in outlands who can train you in everything, like the tailoring trainer? |
| 19:30.16 | abyssichate | Antiarc|Work: did it ever happen to you that people using Omen (same revision of Omen and Threat as me) were being considered as KTM users and thus getting a star to their data? |
| 19:30.41 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: Yes, I saw that happen last night. Something about locale/version not being sent properly on party join. It's on The List. :) |
| 19:31.29 | abyssichate | nice :) |
| 19:32.01 | abyssichate | Most of our raid is using Omen on Bloodboil and the insignifigance debuff is threated accordingly, it's really nice |
| 19:32.19 | Kalman| | kenlyric: The HH/Thrallmar ench trainer won't? |
| 19:32.19 | nevcairiel | where is that debuff from? |
| 19:32.25 | abyssichate | bloodboil |
| 19:32.41 | kenlyric | Kalman|: I dunno. I'll have to check. |
| 19:32.45 | nevcairiel | oh i thought that was a server name or something, haha |
| 19:32.53 | abyssichate | Gurtogg Bloodboil :) |
| 19:33.25 | kenlyric | just wondered if anyone knew off the top of their heads. |
| 19:33.28 | Kalman| | I *think* they will, kenlyric, but not certain. |
| 19:34.35 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: if you scryer then there is in the scryer teir i think |
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| 19:37.02 | ckknight | moonsorrow: I can't reproduce it. How would I reproduce it? |
| 19:37.21 | moonsorrow | uhm, it happens every time for me |
| 19:37.32 | moonsorrow | just create a raid and switch groups |
| 19:38.12 | Dustwhisper | holy fuck, running like 4 different cooldown mods |
| 19:38.15 | Dustwhisper | and i dont know which |
| 19:38.18 | Dustwhisper | so i cant remove the spazzy ones |
| 19:38.20 | Dustwhisper | that's sadface |
| 19:38.47 | ckknight | moonsorrow: I'm doing it... |
| 19:39.09 | Dustwhisper | another thing, anyone had problems accessing Game menu(esc) and the other menus like character screen when in combat? |
| 19:39.23 | durcyn | kenlyric: scryer trainer does, i know. |
| 19:40.24 | *** part/#wowace mexicaan (n=asd@c529c9a5f.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 19:40.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39914 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix GroupToLocale for partytarget |
| 19:41.05 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r39915 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell-deDE.lua: |
| 19:41.05 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 19:41.05 | CIA-22 | - fixed trac ticket 1057. german and french translations no longer =true |
| 19:41.44 | moonsorrow | ckknight: I think you fixed it somehow :) now it works with the last update |
| 19:42.09 | ckknight | r39914? |
| 19:42.27 | ckknight | well, that's quite impossible, but oh well |
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| 19:42.57 | moonsorrow | I updated today before 39910, so it could be one of those two |
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| 19:43.39 | ckknight | moonsorrow: probably 39910 |
| 19:44.06 | CIA-22 | 03lordrhys * r39916 10FuBar_WarriorAlertFu/: FuBar_WarriorAlertFu: adding properties for externals |
| 19:44.21 | Kaydeethree | +ERR_INVITE_RESTRICTED = "Trial accounts cannot invite high level characters into groups."; |
| 19:44.26 | Kaydeethree | added in the latest ptr build. interesting |
| 19:44.42 | ckknight | cool |
| 19:44.54 | ckknight | actually, moonsorrow, another commit's gonna come that might break it again. |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r39917 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell-frFR.lua: |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-22 | - fixed trac ticket 1057. german and french translations no longer =true |
| 19:45.03 | Silviu- | ckknight ;)) |
| 19:45.36 | Silviu- | Try not to ;p |
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| 19:46.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39918 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change where update-all scheduling occurs. |
| 19:46.53 | ckknight | Silviu-: I have to |
| 19:47.01 | ckknight | moonsorrow: I bet that breaks it |
| 19:47.17 | ckknight | it has to, though, since otherwise the whole shifting thing is moot |
| 19:48.22 | moonsorrow | I'll try it after the boss fight :P |
| 19:48.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:50.56 | ckknight | moonsorrow: bug's there, I reproduced |
| 19:50.58 | *** part/#wowace Sofiia (n=Sofiia@ool-457aa668.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:52.47 | ckknight | I know the issue |
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| 19:53.00 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/SC2/PCGamer-SC-Units.flv :o |
| 19:53.03 | Fisker- | new SC units |
| 19:53.06 | Fisker- | SC2 that is |
| 19:53.09 | NeoTron | So the answer might be "when it's done", but any idea at what timeframe we're looking at for a "stable" Threat-1.0? |
| 19:53.20 | NeoTron | trying to figure out if I can put a deadline for my guild to switch, if it's stable enough now etc |
| 19:53.21 | nevcairiel | when its done |
| 19:53.25 | nevcairiel | (you had that coming) |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r39919 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | PallyPower: |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | - Use UnitBuff() to determine the remaining time on buffs, should provide more accurate timers. Still uses LastCast as a cache for the timers, but the cache is refreshed using :UpdateBuffExpiration() |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | - Solves issue with timer being reset to 15 minutes even if spell doesn't land (see above) |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | - Solves issue with loosing timers if reloading UI or relogging |
| 19:53.38 | NeoTron | tanks can't switch from KTM until everyone uses it unfortunately :-/ |
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| 19:53.53 | nevcairiel | i dont think there is a deadline :) but it gets better everyday |
| 19:54.07 | nevcairiel | err a timeframe |
| 19:54.09 | nevcairiel | whatever |
| 19:54.15 | nevcairiel | its evolving |
| 19:54.16 | Saroz | PallyPower <3 |
| 19:54.20 | ckknight | NeoTron: sure they can, then everyone has to switch asap :-P |
| 19:54.52 | Dustwhisper | http://bildr.no/view/76094 |
| 19:54.53 | Dustwhisper | what addon is that |
| 19:54.56 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r39920 10BankList/BankList.lua: BankList: private search using the command line doesn't ignore soulbound item anymore. |
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| 19:54.58 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Once I get a few lingering issues nailed down, I'll be ready to stamp it ready for tank use. |
| 19:55.05 | Fisker- | coolDown Dustwhisper |
| 19:55.06 | Fisker- | i think |
| 19:55.14 | Antiarc|Work | I'm going to make a rather hefty commit tonight that'll be sorta backwards-incompatible, but should solve most of them. |
| 19:55.27 | Saroz | fuck BC |
| 19:55.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39921 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - remove the scheduled update all's. Make sure that all the frames from newList are updated properly, should solve an issue with changing raid groups. |
| 19:55.48 | NeoTron | ckknight: heh good point |
| 19:55.59 | ckknight | moonsorrow: there we go. When you can, can you test? |
| 19:56.03 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: ok thanks |
| 19:56.45 | Dustwhisper | what on earth is the /cmd for coolDown Fisker- |
| 19:56.55 | Josh_Borke | Dustwhisper: there isn't one |
| 19:57.00 | Josh_Borke | Dustwhisper: click the icon around the minimap |
| 19:57.21 | Dustwhisper | that ugly circle thingy? |
| 19:57.29 | Josh_Borke | is that the icon around the minimap? |
| 19:57.36 | Dustwhisper | my minimap have zero icons |
| 19:57.45 | Josh_Borke | it's black and green |
| 19:57.52 | blimep | what addon is this? http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2172/moroesyt9.png |
| 19:58.05 | Josh_Borke | blimep: looks like a PitBull layout |
| 19:58.07 | Dustwhisper | oh |
| 19:58.09 | Dustwhisper | now i found it |
| 19:58.10 | Dustwhisper | weird |
| 19:58.11 | [dRaCo] | yeah, prolly |
| 19:58.11 | ckknight | yep, that's PitBull |
| 19:58.15 | blimep | kk, thanks |
| 19:58.23 | Dustwhisper | but how on earth do you get some kind of menu/setup info on it Josh_Borke? |
| 19:58.31 | Josh_Borke | Dustwhisper: you don't |
| 19:58.39 | cotangent_ | There isn't an option for vertical Health/power bars is there? |
| 19:58.50 | Josh_Borke | Dustwhisper: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4575-coolDown.html |
| 19:59.08 | Dustwhisper | thx |
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| 19:59.17 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r39922 10CraftList2/ (CraftList2.lua localization.lua): |
| 19:59.17 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 19:59.17 | CIA-22 | - small localization adjustment |
| 19:59.20 | cotangent_ | for pitbull that is |
| 19:59.55 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r39923 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 19:59.55 | CIA-22 | PallyPower: |
| 19:59.55 | CIA-22 | - Slight optimization |
| 20:00.06 | Dustwhisper | ah that works |
| 20:00.19 | Dustwhisper | now i just need to find out how to get coolDowNTimers2 to only show the announcement and not any cooldowns |
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| 20:00.31 | Antiarc|Work | So my wife's trying to do the chicken quest in Westfall |
| 20:00.36 | Antiarc|Work | And ends up killing the chicken instead. |
| 20:00.42 | hyperChipmunk | gg |
| 20:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | the /script for i=1,100 do DoEmote('chicken') end quest =) |
| 20:01.28 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 20:01.35 | nevcairiel | ive done it the legit way :( |
| 20:01.42 | hyperChipmunk | weak |
| 20:01.46 | nevcairiel | i macrod it |
| 20:01.47 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 20:02.02 | nevcairiel | spamming the button worked fast enough too tho |
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| 20:02.45 | ckknight | cotangent_: not yet |
| 20:03.15 | cotangent_ | k thanks, I'll keep the hud for that for now I guess |
| 20:03.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39924 10PitBull/ (9 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - rename Combat => CombatIcon |
| 20:03.58 | ckknight | Note: I'm gonna be renaming quite a few modules |
| 20:04.09 | Antiarc|Work | Yay, shadow priest/lock arena nerf incoming :D |
| 20:04.15 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: eh? |
| 20:04.17 | ckknight | i.e. adding "Bar" or "Icon" |
| 20:04.18 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/109844212.htm |
| 20:05.24 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: good, that was needed |
| 20:06.38 | Dustwhisper | on autobar, can you hide that little red/green circle you can toggle? |
| 20:06.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39925 10PitBull/CombatIcon/CombatIcon.lua: PitBull_CombatIcon - fix typo |
| 20:08.10 | NeoTron | hmm I though moveFrames was an ace addon but I guess it's just an addon using the ace framework |
| 20:08.24 | NeoTron | was going to report a bug but alas not the place |
| 20:08.36 | Josh_Borke | so what is an ace addon? |
| 20:08.40 | Josh_Borke | if not one that uses the ace framework? |
| 20:08.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39926 10PitBull/ (10 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - rename DruidMana => DruidManaBar |
| 20:09.26 | NeoTron | well |
| 20:09.39 | NeoTron | bad use of terms |
| 20:09.44 | NeoTron | I meant an addon available from wowace |
| 20:09.56 | Josh_Borke | i'm just messing with you |
| 20:10.06 | NeoTron | that some random person here can fix even if the author is MIA :) |
| 20:10.15 | jme | Antiarc|Work: just when i was starting to roll a lock =/ |
| 20:10.43 | NeoTron | although.. |
| 20:10.48 | NeoTron | ~seen chuckg |
| 20:10.54 | purl | chuckg is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'Liar mouth.'. |
| 20:10.54 | ulic | hyperChipmunk: my bulkmail as windows is UNDER my inbox, and I can't seem to move it, suggestions? |
| 20:11.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39927 10PitBull/ (10 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - rename Experience => ExperienceBar |
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| 20:11.57 | hyperChipmunk | ulic: i'm working on that now |
| 20:12.03 | ulic | hyperChipmunk: ok :) |
| 20:12.05 | NeoTron | chuckg: assume you're the moveFrames author... hooking to MovePanelToCenter and MovePanelToLeft no longer works |
| 20:13.11 | hyperChipmunk | for now, do MailFrame:SetScale(0.1) and move it out |
| 20:13.47 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: so what I use most from postal is the "open all" and "open selected" feature - does bulkmail do that or just handles sending? |
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| 20:14.04 | hyperChipmunk | NeoTron: BulkMail2Inbox |
| 20:14.26 | Josh_Borke | hyperChipmunk: why not: frame:SetFrameLevel(MailFrame:GetFrameLevel()+1) or something? |
| 20:14.34 | ulic | hehe, that's one small inbox, thanks for the tip hyperChipmunk |
| 20:14.48 | hyperChipmunk | cuz the frame is a tablet |
| 20:14.58 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: ah. not like I have any issues with postal, mostly curious :) |
| 20:15.01 | Josh_Borke | ah, i see |
| 20:15.22 | hyperChipmunk | easier than trying to figure out what 'frame' happens to be |
| 20:15.33 | NeoTron | ckknight: so the numbner one issue I have with x-perl is that when I target something it seems to take a second to get the raid symbol. Does pitbull behave better in that aspect? |
| 20:15.48 | ckknight | I believe so. test it out and see |
| 20:16.03 | Zeksie | neotron. you have defer target draw turned on. and don't have latest version either |
| 20:16.20 | Zeksie | cos i moved target icon to always be imediate |
| 20:16.38 | NeoTron | will do |
| 20:16.52 | NeoTron | Zeksie: oh ok |
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| 20:18.36 | NeoTron | Zeksie: Fixed: LOCKUPS when entering BG, logging in during raid etc. <-- what was the reasons for that? |
| 20:18.50 | NeoTron | ppl seem to randomly having that with agUF etc (no clue if it's remotely up to date) |
| 20:18.55 | NeoTron | never had it myself, but curious |
| 20:19.05 | Zeksie | setting template header attributes before or during player_entering_world as far as i can tell |
| 20:19.24 | Zeksie | so just postponed them a little and it all got fixed. |
| 20:19.35 | NeoTron | ah I see |
| 20:19.46 | NeoTron | wonder if that's the same issue that people are having with other unit frames |
| 20:19.55 | Zeksie | was stuff that ahd worked for 6 months, and will do again from what i heard. |
| 20:19.58 | Zeksie | without a doubt |
| 20:20.47 | NeoTron | so rather than an addon bug it's some issue blizzard introduced and will probably fix |
| 20:21.08 | Zeksie | yep |
| 20:21.25 | NeoTron | kind of like the super slow zoning issues |
| 20:21.29 | Zeksie | it doesn't actually freeze, just runs VERY slowly. like 3-4 mins instead of 3-4 seconds |
| 20:21.39 | NeoTron | which was partially due to stupid addons but primarily due to firing a shitton of events when zoning |
| 20:22.34 | Zeksie | nah. not so much. it's more the setting of attributes. just stalls it internally. stinks of a race condition or something |
| 20:23.55 | NeoTron | well this was the issue way back when where you got a lot of events during zoning, not this latest issue which is different |
| 20:24.11 | Zeksie | yeah. they cured that some time ago |
| 20:25.33 | NeoTron | apparently 2.1 added a slew of nice FPS reductions though |
| 20:25.40 | NeoTron | pretty widespread issue it seems |
| 20:26.19 | Zeksie | yeah. has been crappy few weeks.. |
| 20:26.58 | NeoTron | I first truly noticed when I got ~10 FPS on hydross |
| 20:27.08 | NeoTron | and my DPS went way down because I could barely play |
| 20:27.31 | durcyn | i went out and bought a 640mb 8800gts and i still get 30fps in raids |
| 20:27.40 | durcyn | which is better than 1, to be sure. |
| 20:28.32 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 20:28.42 | Mudkipz | what is your cpu? |
| 20:28.48 | durcyn | c2d E6600 |
| 20:29.03 | Mudkipz | I guess it's an intel |
| 20:29.24 | Mudkipz | hmm... I haven't been "into" the hardware scene too much |
| 20:29.33 | Aenslaed | vsync on? |
| 20:29.50 | Mudkipz | but yeah let's see a screenshot of your video settings |
| 20:30.14 | durcyn | tried with and without vsync. it's mostly due to the 1920x1200 =) |
| 20:30.28 | Aenslaed | haha |
| 20:30.45 | abyssichate | http://www.crenshaw.se/mage_s2.JPG Mage season2 gear :) |
| 20:31.14 | kenlyric | the enchanting trainer in HH doesn't let you start from level 1. curses! |
| 20:31.34 | durcyn | kenlyric: there are four enchanting trainers in the scryer tier, if you need to start from scratch. |
| 20:31.46 | kenlyric | i'm aldor :) |
| 20:32.09 | durcyn | pff, get your self-righteous ass back to azeroth then. damn aldor. |
| 20:32.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39928 10PitBull/ (68 files in 26 dirs): PitBull - rename a whole bunch of modules, adding Icon and Bar to the end of their names. |
| 20:32.39 | kenlyric | tailoring trainer is the same way. Fuck |
| 20:33.25 | *** part/#wowace Necrathex (n=necra@82-171-43-202.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 20:33.53 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pp-kmaWK74 |
| 20:35.20 | kenlyric | wowwiki lied to me! |
| 20:35.27 | trh | Antiarc|Work: that kid got serious problems |
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| 20:36.59 | phyber | what happened to the "Send" list in BulkMail? |
| 20:37.24 | hyperChipmunk | phyber: check behind your inbox =x |
| 20:37.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:37.44 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:37.49 | phyber | ah. my inbox is transparent, normally I'd see it, but pitbull is also in the way |
| 20:37.52 | phyber | clever :p |
| 20:38.17 | KarlThePagan | I see that it's being worked on... thx hyper :) |
| 20:38.26 | KarlThePagan | i about had a corinary... |
| 20:38.42 | smallbrain | abyssichate: giev weapon stats plx? |
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| 20:40.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39929 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai - typo |
| 20:40.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: speaking of that, I had one hell of a time trying to get bm's send list out from behind my inbox. *shakes fist* |
| 20:41.06 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39930 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 20:41.06 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 20:41.06 | CIA-22 | - SendQueue GUI strata set to 'HIGH' |
| 20:41.08 | Ominous | how do you stop compare threat velocity in omen? |
| 20:41.26 | nekoh | you dont :P |
| 20:42.06 | Ominous | argh |
| 20:42.10 | nekoh | you have to relaod ui after disabling it :P |
| 20:42.14 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39931 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 20:42.14 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 20:42.14 | CIA-22 | - Inbox GUI strata set to 'HIGH' |
| 20:42.15 | Ominous | cant reload as my addon will bug as im half way through developing |
| 20:42.39 | NeoTron | so if a mage specs 61 points into arcane, how dumb is that? :P |
| 20:42.59 | hyperChipmunk | there |
| 20:43.03 | hyperChipmunk | no more hidden bulkmail |
| 20:43.32 | NightHawkTheSane | er, woops.. caps.. |
| 20:45.40 | kebinusan | so is it a sign your guild is doing well when the trolls come out of the woodwork to attack you |
| 20:45.51 | Kalman| | kebinusan: Usually. |
| 20:46.01 | Kalman| | That or you're a bunch of jackasses. |
| 20:46.10 | kebinusan | likely to be both |
| 20:48.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39932 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - remove a few UpdateAll()'s that weren't necessary |
| 20:48.39 | abyssichate | Antiarc|Work: is there some way not to halve your threat if soulshatter gets resisted? |
| 20:49.32 | hyperChipmunk | i've thought about that same problem with FD |
| 20:49.35 | jme | http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1861/anachronosks2.png |
| 20:49.39 | jme | ^ last night |
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| 20:49.58 | hyperChipmunk | I haven't come up with anything that's not totally hack |
| 20:49.59 | Dustwhisper | how come i cant open system menu in combat |
| 20:50.11 | Dustwhisper | what's the /command to open sysmenu |
| 20:50.16 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: It shouldn't, but that's hard for me to test |
| 20:50.25 | abyssichate | it just did :D |
| 20:50.37 | abyssichate | yeah, it doesn't get resisted THAT much |
| 20:50.41 | smallbrain | lol |
| 20:50.43 | smallbrain | what |
| 20:51.01 | durcyn | get more +hit then! |
| 20:51.13 | Gnarfoz | hit is king |
| 20:51.18 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 20:51.20 | Gnarfoz | btw, arena season 2 weapons ftw |
| 20:51.30 | NeoTron | green +spellhit trinket > blue +spellcrit trinket |
| 20:51.36 | abyssichate | I want to check the looks on the dagger |
| 20:51.53 | durcyn | though i do kind of like the proc on eye of magtheridon, makes me want to take some hit back off |
| 20:51.59 | ckknight | hey, what is the syntax for filelist.wau? |
| 20:52.15 | NeoTron | durcyn: that trinket is like useless for me |
| 20:52.18 | NeoTron | or rather the proc is |
| 20:52.20 | NeoTron | I never miss |
| 20:52.21 | Gnarfoz | abyssichate: doesn't seem like they look different? |
| 20:52.22 | NeoTron | literally |
| 20:52.26 | NeoTron | welll |
| 20:52.29 | durcyn | ckknight: @<Directory> |
| 20:52.34 | NeoTron | 1% miss chance but in reality I never seem to miss |
| 20:52.38 | Gnarfoz | same icons |
| 20:52.43 | ckknight | durcyn: what about subdirectories? |
| 20:52.49 | ckknight | @Modules\Aura? |
| 20:53.19 | durcyn | hrm, not sure about nesting. |
| 20:53.40 | Fisker- | why is it impossible to login while your raid is in combat? :I |
| 20:53.48 | Fisker- | my WoW keeps freezing |
| 20:53.52 | ckknight | let's just assume. |
| 20:53.55 | abyssichate | Gnarfoz: I haven't seen any screenshots of them |
| 20:53.58 | ulic | wua, wants the root directory things will end up in |
| 20:54.05 | Gnarfoz | I'm going from the icons, abyssichate |
| 20:54.14 | ckknight | ulic: ? |
| 20:54.27 | ulic | example, LittleWigs\TK when moved to LoD becomes @LittleWigs_TK |
| 20:54.44 | ckknight | right |
| 20:54.45 | ulic | so addons\LittleWigs\TK -> addons\LittleWigs_TK |
| 20:55.11 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: I'll see if I can fake the soulshatter and fix it tonight |
| 20:55.20 | ckknight | okay, so AddOns\PitBull\Modules\Aura => AddOns\PitBull_Aura |
| 20:55.31 | ckknight | so the filelist.wau is @PitBull_Aura? |
| 20:55.45 | durcyn | ckknight: looks like a simple move, should work with backslashes |
| 20:56.04 | ckknight | I dunno, since previously it was @Aura |
| 20:56.11 | ulic | yea, I'm pretty sure, although I've never have a directory two deep |
| 20:56.17 | ckknight | I'm just gonna change it to @Modules\Aura and let whoever it affects change it |
| 20:56.35 | CIA-22 | 03mulesh * r39933 10aUF_Layouts/ (5 files): aUF_Layouts: - Added BibeUnitFrames and updating TOC |
| 20:56.39 | ulic | but you want the "Aura" folder to become it's own LoD right? |
| 20:57.13 | ckknight | ulic: okay, so AddOns\PitBull\Modules\Aura => AddOns\PitBull_Aura |
| 20:57.14 | durcyn | question is how the move handles it. does it copy just modules, does it name the destionation _aura, _module, _moduleaura, or something else |
| 20:57.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39934 10PitBull/ (56 files in 54 dirs): PitBull - move all modules into the Modules folder |
| 20:57.28 | abyssichate | Antiarc|Work: it'd be awesome, thanks :) |
| 20:58.06 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.16 | durcyn | that parsing might break, guess we'll find out |
| 20:58.28 | ulic | ckknight: I think that is where you want to move it, but since it's starting in Modules, I'm not 100% sure |
| 20:58.51 | Dustwhisper | ey what is the /command for system menu? |
| 20:59.20 | ulic | we need a wau test server :) |
| 20:59.42 | durcyn | Dustwhisper: /script ToggleGameMenu(); |
| 21:00.10 | ckknight | well, PitBull's directory structure is slightly more sane now |
| 21:00.20 | Fisker- | sane with (in) on it? |
| 21:00.21 | ckknight | now that there aren't 30 folders in the root |
| 21:01.07 | Fisker- | aww |
| 21:01.12 | Fisker- | that was nice |
| 21:02.25 | durcyn | ckknight: no joy. didn't even unpack. |
| 21:02.37 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:02.41 | ckknight | well, figure out how to fix it |
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| 21:02.49 | durcyn | er, the filelist.wau still has the old names in 39934 |
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| 21:03.22 | Daemona | who broke pitbull with a missing module "health" WHO and made me panic having to disable unitframes during essence of soul atempts !? |
| 21:03.23 | ckknight | err, weird |
| 21:03.30 | ckknight | me, Daemona |
| 21:03.49 | bindi | gah Daemona :) gz on bloodboil |
| 21:03.52 | bindi | wiping on him atm :p |
| 21:03.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39935 10PitBull/filelist.wau: PitBull - possibly fix filelist.wau |
| 21:03.58 | bindi | cuntboss tbh :p |
| 21:04.02 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: You broke the first rule of UI maintenance: |
| 21:04.10 | Antiarc|Work | Never update before (or during) a raid |
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| 21:04.32 | Daemona | updating while raiding yadayada... i only updated because of threat and did a full update instead threat only... you know ? ;) |
| 21:05.04 | durcyn | nuns have been dispatched with rulers. |
| 21:05.33 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 21:07.25 | Gnarfoz | s/essence/Reliquary/g |
| 21:07.40 | Killmore | Daemona: so your guild wipe by your fault ? :P |
| 21:08.03 | Daemona | no i had to use default unitframes |
| 21:08.07 | Daemona | which suxx even more |
| 21:08.13 | Gnarfoz | Bibi: getting hammered, yet? oO :D |
| 21:08.14 | Killmore | haha |
| 21:08.26 | Fisker- | my playermodel was like 100 times bigger when i updated :P |
| 21:08.34 | Fisker- | updating during raids ftw |
| 21:09.18 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39936 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 21:09.18 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 21:09.18 | CIA-22 | - default anchor set on SendQueue GUI so that positioning is saved correctly |
| 21:09.40 | kaugummi | hm, DogTag stops working after 2038/01/18 :( |
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| 21:09.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 21:09.48 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39937 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 21:09.48 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 21:09.48 | CIA-22 | - default anchor set on SendQueue GUI so that positioning is saved correctly |
| 21:10.01 | Fisker- | i'm immune |
| 21:10.01 | Antiarc|Work | Whoa |
| 21:10.03 | Fisker- | in your butt |
| 21:10.03 | Daemona | you dont know how much it suxx when you are used to an enemy cast bar at the pitbull frame at the lower right center of your screen when you have a interupt rotation with 5 ppl on essence of souls. |
| 21:10.04 | hyperChipmunk | er, that second one should say InboxGUI |
| 21:10.08 | Antiarc|Work | My post on the KTM thread is in green now. |
| 21:10.09 | Antiarc|Work | o.0 |
| 21:10.09 | Daemona | and you suddenly dont have that anymore |
| 21:10.10 | hyperChipmunk | c&p ftw |
| 21:10.15 | Silviu- | lol kaugummi ;) |
| 21:10.16 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe because it's above a certain threshold or something |
| 21:10.33 | hyperChipmunk | thumbs upses |
| 21:10.54 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: link me? |
| 21:10.58 | Antiarc|Work | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 21:11.14 | ulic | ckknight: I don't see any other addons I run, that have buried modules like that, did the last update work? |
| 21:11.25 | ckknight | ulic: don't know |
| 21:11.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: i believe it turns green when it gets modded up above a certain threshold |
| 21:11.37 | NeoTron | -so |
| 21:11.45 | NeoTron | can we say that KTM has been "aced"? |
| 21:11.51 | Antiarc|Work | Please don't :( |
| 21:11.53 | Antiarc|Work | Because it's not |
| 21:11.57 | NeoTron | heh |
| 21:12.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39938 10PitBull/Modules/ (26 files in 26 dirs): PitBull - update module check for ln -s environment |
| 21:12.14 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: you now have 1 more point |
| 21:12.16 | NeoTron | I meant it as a "owned by an ace addon" |
| 21:12.17 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
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| 21:12.38 | NeoTron | and I won't post it anywhere if that is what worried you |
| 21:12.38 | Fisker- | oh u Antiarc|Work :) |
| 21:14.15 | Ominous | ckknight: could you do an UpdateAll() when the raid groups are changed |
| 21:14.33 | ckknight | no, that'd defeat the purpose |
| 21:14.54 | ckknight | it shouldn't need it, Ominous |
| 21:15.14 | Ominous | well, on tuesday the groups didnt update properly |
| 21:15.42 | durcyn | we're in thursday-land now, sir. |
| 21:15.53 | durcyn | get with the times! |
| 21:15.57 | Saint-N | thats because ckk doesnt know what he's doing and the code monkey he feeds bananas and spam to write his code was sick ;P |
| 21:16.01 | Ominous | oh, that been fixed? |
| 21:16.42 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: pong |
| 21:16.47 | ckknight | Ominous: tuesday. |
| 21:16.54 | Antiarc|Work | Longest. Ping. Ever. :P |
| 21:16.54 | ckknight | Ominous: do you realize how much can happen in two days? |
| 21:16.56 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Not sure what that EJ dude is on about |
| 21:17.02 | Ominous | ya, should really read changelogs |
| 21:17.05 | Ominous | sorry |
| 21:17.10 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Ok. Just wanting some independent verification. |
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| 21:17.37 | ckknight | Ominous: in related news, PitBull's lag freeze is down to 1/40th of the time it was previously |
| 21:17.39 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 21:17.53 | Saint-N | ooooooooooo |
| 21:17.58 | Saint-N | optimized! |
| 21:18.00 | Ominous | ckknight: oh, so you mean that was pitbull and not me having too many programs open |
| 21:18.01 | Ominous | x |
| 21:18.10 | ckknight | which means 2 seconds of lag (roughly) is now 0.05 seconds of lag |
| 21:18.13 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Alright. At least comparing threat display to damagemeter damage it seems correct |
| 21:18.14 | ckknight | or a blink of an eye |
| 21:18.20 | Saint-N | ominus: you should know better, it's NEVER ckk's code |
| 21:18.25 | ckknight | ever. |
| 21:18.28 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:18.36 | Ominous | rofl |
| 21:18.37 | durcyn | (unless it's acelocale) |
| 21:18.41 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:18.41 | ckknight | quiet you |
| 21:18.45 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:18.47 | trh | Antiarc|Work: your entry got green because so many people voted + ;) |
| 21:18.49 | ckknight | I blame... nymbia for that |
| 21:19.04 | trh | Antiarc|Work: (at threatmeter comments)= |
| 21:19.08 | Ominous | ckknight: no god, dont you ever learn, ITS FISKER! |
| 21:19.51 | ckknight | quote from Kenco: "As for performance numbers, i wouldn't trust everything you hear." |
| 21:19.55 | ckknight | he's such a lamer. |
| 21:19.59 | Saint-N | trh: it got voted not by a lot of people by by a proxy and php script he created ;P |
| 21:20.03 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Maybe if he tested only stuff with application threat, like siphon life. |
| 21:20.14 | Fisker- | Ominous OH U |
| 21:20.17 | nymbia | ckknight: rofl |
| 21:20.22 | Gagorian | That application threat can negate the -10% total threat |
| 21:20.31 | NeoTron | I wonder if Baggins really isn't using CPU but some ace addon that baggin uses does |
| 21:20.38 | Fisker- | Think it might be possible to listen for a buff without target, focus and so on? |
| 21:20.41 | trh | ckknight: i still wonder how he could think checking sth. in onupdate wouldn't cause performance issues |
| 21:20.43 | Antiarc|Work | I like how he's writing his own profiler that will show more favorable numbers for KTM over Blizzard's profiler. :/ |
| 21:20.46 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: you had a very good response |
| 21:20.56 | trh | ckknight: i mean thats something you even learn by doing |
| 21:21.05 | ckknight | trh: have you seen his code? it's VB-style in lua |
| 21:21.14 | ckknight | it's ...horrid |
| 21:21.18 | Saint-N | ktm is moderately retarded though |
| 21:21.18 | trh | ckknight: i tried, must my eyes started bleeding |
| 21:21.24 | ckknight | I read most of it |
| 21:21.27 | nymbia | Antiarc|Work: BECAUSE HIS FUNCTIONS ONLY TAKE A COUPLE MICROSECONDS, BLIZZARD IS FULL OF LIES |
| 21:21.42 | Saint-N | it's possible in ktm for me solo to NOT have the most threat if im killing near someone else ;P |
| 21:21.43 | nevcairiel | lol nym |
| 21:22.03 | Saint-N | even though its blatantlyt obvious im winning on this mob ;) |
| 21:22.03 | trh | nymbia: YEAH! and they only get called 100 times second! so they can't take much time :P |
| 21:22.18 | Antiarc|Work | I really, really appreciate the work Kenco did in testing threat values and developing KTM to begin with...but seriously. I don't know what he's smoking when it comes to performance. :/ |
| 21:22.22 | nymbia | trh: indeed. |
| 21:22.28 | Fisker- | btw nymbia oh hi |
| 21:22.31 | Bver | i just have to say, im really impresses with omen so far |
| 21:22.37 | Bver | impressed* |
| 21:22.41 | Saint-N | im not |
| 21:22.44 | trh | Antiarc|Work: yeah.. the idea of a threatmeter is awesome.. even though some people appear to want to win on threat instead of on damage ;) |
| 21:22.46 | Antiarc|Work | Glad you like it so far. |
| 21:22.49 | Matrix110 | onupdate gets worse the more fps you got its kinda funny |
| 21:22.59 | Saint-N | omen stole my cookies the other night while i was sleeping |
| 21:23.06 | Bver | pulling otu the threat bar was a nice touch |
| 21:23.20 | trh | Antiarc|Work: btw: had a strange issue with omen on gruul - suddenly it stopped displaying threat from ktm people |
| 21:23.33 | Saint-N | thats a ktm bug |
| 21:23.37 | NeoTron | did someone set the ktm master target to something weird? |
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| 21:23.50 | trh | NeoTron: i don't know.. kicked ktm of my disk :) |
| 21:23.52 | Saint-N | at about the 8th grow or so he does this wierd aggro wipe thingy |
| 21:23.58 | trh | NeoTron: but they might have been |
| 21:24.00 | sbu | hmmmmm |
| 21:24.02 | sbu | i dont get it |
| 21:24.05 | trh | because some use german client and others english |
| 21:24.06 | sbu | reinstalled win xp today |
| 21:24.10 | Saint-N | as far as ktm is concerned anyways |
| 21:24.22 | Bver | is there any way to give omen a static size rather than having the list change dynamically? |
| 21:24.34 | sbu | and after few hours of playing my wow memory drops from 500mb to 100mb |
| 21:24.50 | sbu | and pc crashes |
| 21:24.50 | Saint-N | set the page file manually? |
| 21:24.53 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Are you aware of the issue that during fights all bars from omen disappear once in a while, then reappear a second later? |
| 21:24.56 | NeoTron | sbu: the PTR has some fix when you alt-tab |
| 21:25.01 | NeoTron | sbu: do you alt-tab a lot? |
| 21:25.15 | sbu | hmm ~10 times in 2h? :o |
| 21:25.16 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Yup, think I fixed it with some drycode earlier. |
| 21:25.21 | NeoTron | that's probably it |
| 21:25.24 | Antiarc|Work | (happened any time someone summoned or lost a pet, or was moved around in the raid) |
| 21:25.32 | Saint-N | it sometimes is related to realmem->vmem and the page file spazzing on a bad disk part |
| 21:25.41 | NeoTron | I've seen ppl reporting significant memory increase each alt-tab, like int he range of 30 MB |
| 21:25.41 | sbu | strange thing is - with vista (which i had yesterday) - there were no problems |
| 21:25.46 | Kaelten | kergoth: could you look at the following http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1353.new;topicseen#new |
| 21:25.56 | Saint-N | sbu: its a winders thing |
| 21:26.02 | sbu | mhm :/ |
| 21:26.21 | sbu | set page manually could help? |
| 21:26.22 | Saint-N | go change yer pagefile from "letting windows handle it" to 1.5times the amount of physical memory if you're 1g or lower |
| 21:26.24 | sbu | +file |
| 21:26.34 | sbu | mh 2gb mem |
| 21:26.38 | rjp | Antiarc|Work, could I suggest a feature for sanity? |
| 21:26.39 | Saint-N | set it at 2g then |
| 21:26.39 | trh | sbu: i'd guess some driver problem |
| 21:26.47 | Antiarc|Work | rjp: Definitely |
| 21:26.49 | rjp | Antiarc|Work, not sure if it's within it's scope or note |
| 21:26.59 | Saint-N | and with xp always install yer video driver AFTER dx ;) |
| 21:26.59 | rjp | Antiarc|Work, add the ability to see what your other characters can craft |
| 21:27.07 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r39939 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc): |
| 21:27.07 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 21:27.07 | CIA-22 | - Moved Ignite to mage module |
| 21:27.12 | sbu | hmmm dx |
| 21:27.21 | rjp | ooh, mage changes in DrDamage |
| 21:27.23 | rjp | time to update :) |
| 21:27.39 | sbu | gonna reinstall dx and video driver now ;o |
| 21:27.39 | Antiarc|Work | rjp: There are various mods that do that already |
| 21:27.40 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 21:27.42 | sbu | and page file stuff |
| 21:27.45 | Antiarc|Work | Don't remember the names, but I use one :) |
| 21:27.59 | Saint-N | for some reason if you install it after the video driver it doesnt read the hardware accell properly |
| 21:28.05 | rjp | but i like having it all in one giant mods (kind of like the linux kernel) |
| 21:28.12 | Saint-N | laugh rj |
| 21:28.23 | hyperChipmunk | ew |
| 21:28.36 | sbu | Saint-N: mh 2g page file is enough? |
| 21:28.42 | Saint-N | there is a reason that they support dynamic modules in the linux kernel ;P |
| 21:28.52 | Saint-N | sbu: yeah over 1g its 1:1 |
| 21:29.01 | hyperChipmunk | that's not even close to the scope of a bag addon |
| 21:29.20 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39940 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: |
| 21:29.20 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: |
| 21:29.20 | CIA-22 | - hopefully fix remote toy detecting on any debuff :D |
| 21:29.20 | CIA-22 | - reduce conflag throttle again |
| 21:29.20 | sbu | Saint-N: but i've seen windows allocating up to 2g (and no more...) |
| 21:29.21 | rjp | Antiarc|Work, would it be technically possible for me to write an addition to Sanity to add profession support (basically add it through the same interface) |
| 21:29.37 | Saint-N | sbu: thats because thers a 2gb file limit |
| 21:29.41 | Saint-N | err file size limit |
| 21:29.43 | sbu | hmm |
| 21:29.56 | sbu | its 2046-4092 at the moment |
| 21:29.56 | Silviu- | Saint-N and at 1gb how much it should be ? i have atm 1536 with 3072 |
| 21:29.58 | [Ammo] | finally, hydross down yay |
| 21:30.01 | Saint-N | doesnt manufac do that already? |
| 21:30.07 | hyperChipmunk | that's not a windows problem; it's a filesystem problem |
| 21:30.10 | [Ammo] | our first kill in SSC made, time to get some more in ;) |
| 21:30.14 | rjp | [Ammo], did you use AOE or single target on the adds? |
| 21:30.14 | sbu | [Ammo]: lurker to 5% today, meh :/ |
| 21:30.14 | Saint-N | at 1gb 1.5times |
| 21:30.25 | Saint-N | 0-1gb is 1.5 1-4 is 1:1 |
| 21:30.28 | rjp | we started on him last night, can get him below 50% easily, but not on track to beat the enrage |
| 21:30.33 | Saint-N | to make winders happy anyways |
| 21:30.48 | sbu | Saint-N: well but if it uses more than 2gb that shouldnt be a problem? |
| 21:30.49 | Bver | single target, but they reduced the hp so aoe is effective as well |
| 21:30.52 | rjp | svn is about to pass 40k :o |
| 21:30.55 | Saint-N | its wont increase performance all that much but it cuts down on the amount of ti9mes thats it "reorders" the page file when its in use |
| 21:31.06 | Saint-N | sbu: nope |
| 21:31.10 | durcyn | ckknight: no dice on filelist.wau nesting, btw |
| 21:31.21 | sbu | so my 2g-4gb setting (which is set at the moment, default?) shouldnt cause problems |
| 21:31.31 | Saint-N | nope |
| 21:31.34 | sbu | okay ;o |
| 21:31.46 | Saint-N | it shouldnt however if its not set manually windows can adjust that as it feels it wants to |
| 21:31.48 | ckknight | who's in charge of WAU now? |
| 21:31.53 | Saint-N | hence the need for setting it manually |
| 21:32.02 | durcyn | ckknight: sylvanaar, iirc |
| 21:32.10 | Silviu- | ckknight i think Kaelten and sylvanaar |
| 21:32.18 | ckknight | Kaelten: ping |
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| 21:32.21 | durcyn | should just need a second var with baesname for the move |
| 21:32.29 | sbu | recommended nvidia driver? (6800GT) |
| 21:32.29 | Kaelten | I am |
| 21:32.32 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 21:32.35 | durcyn | hell if i'm picking up C# syntax for that shit though |
| 21:32.46 | Saint-N | the latest nforce one |
| 21:32.59 | sbu | standard nvidia? nothing patched up? |
| 21:33.03 | Saint-N | install dx and then reinstall the nvidia driver |
| 21:33.06 | sbu | hm okay |
| 21:33.07 | Saint-N | nope nothing patched up |
| 21:33.22 | Funkeh` | grats [Ammo] |
| 21:33.28 | Saint-N | just installed my 7100gs the other day and noticed it sucked crap if i did driver then dx |
| 21:33.29 | ckknight | Kaelten: basically, PitBull's modules are now in AddOns\PitBull\Modules\* |
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| 21:33.43 | ckknight | Kaelten: I'm not sure what filelist.wau should say in the PitBull folder |
| 21:33.49 | sbu | Saint-N: but i didnt install any dx :o |
| 21:33.50 | Kaelten | hrm me either |
| 21:34.02 | sbu | windows (with shipped 9.0c) - then graphics |
| 21:34.02 | Kaelten | I know we're going to move from filelist.wau to a .wau file |
| 21:34.16 | Kaelten | to allow more options for extending metadata |
| 21:34.30 | Gnarfoz | windows doesn't ship with 9.0c, it ships with 9.0, doesn't it |
| 21:34.33 | Saint-N | sbu: might wanna run the 9.0c install even if it says its included |
| 21:34.42 | ckknight | well, I need an answer for this... |
| 21:34.43 | Xuerian | sbu: Regardless if it ships with 9.0c, DX is updated monthly |
| 21:34.44 | Saint-N | dx has gotta wierd with a lot of pci-e video cards these days |
| 21:34.48 | Gnarfoz | anyway, just use the latest driver from nvidia.com |
| 21:35.20 | sbu | mhhmmm |
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| 21:35.25 | Gagorian | Is there a way to set no externals to default mode in WAU? It seems like the function is at least partially there.. |
| 21:35.30 | Saint-N | the minimum dx relases date you want is may 2007 |
| 21:35.41 | Saint-N | im pretty sure there w2as one for june already but im not 100% sure |
| 21:35.45 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 21:35.54 | Xuerian | softpedia has it, as normal |
| 21:36.08 | Xuerian | (Among others >.>) |
| 21:36.12 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:36.14 | Gnarfoz | don't download from crap pages like that |
| 21:36.18 | Kaelten | I can verify that wau2's will support pathing like that. But I don't know about 1.8 |
| 21:36.23 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Give me a good reason not to |
| 21:36.24 | Gnarfoz | go to the developers, they are still in business, last I heard. :P |
| 21:36.28 | Saint-N | kael |
| 21:36.36 | Saint-N | thanks for adding searching to wau |
| 21:36.38 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: msft's site is a pain in the add :) |
| 21:36.40 | Kaelten | my advice is testing. |
| 21:36.41 | Xuerian | s/add/ass/ |
| 21:36.48 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: trustworthyness, lack of reason to download from somewhere else :D |
| 21:36.55 | Saint-N | now if you could just make them all not use retarded descriptions it would be awesome ;P |
| 21:37.05 | bindi | damn this felt awesome :D bloodboil down |
| 21:37.05 | Kaelten | heh |
| 21:37.05 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Not quite that paranoid. |
| 21:37.20 | Kaelten | we'll see how things develop in regards to that |
| 21:37.22 | Gnarfoz | softpedia irks me, for some reason. :p |
| 21:37.28 | Saint-N | thers a nice site for firefox windersupdates too |
| 21:37.29 | Kaelten | btw guys we're expecting a beta for wau2 in 1-2 weeks |
| 21:37.30 | hyperChipmunk | Gnarfoz: you aren't alone |
| 21:37.34 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Oh, all the big free software sites irk me too |
| 21:37.39 | Xuerian | But I still get DX there |
| 21:37.49 | sbu | haha |
| 21:37.56 | NeoTron | Kaelten: what could possibly be added to make it better? :) |
| 21:38.12 | Saint-N | Kaelten: complete with advertising banner adds and spyware?...you know like the final? |
| 21:38.13 | Gnarfoz | yeah whatever, |
| 21:38.13 | Kaelten | mac and linux support is one thing we're adding. |
| 21:38.14 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r39941 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/General.lua ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: Removed Trinkets, added a custom option, please tell me if there are missing spell though |
| 21:38.15 | sbu | german ms site: dx last updated 2004, en site: 1 week ago... :/ |
| 21:38.20 | Kaelten | Saint-N: no spyware |
| 21:38.20 | Gnarfoz | I just enter 'directx web installer' |
| 21:38.22 | Saint-N | awww |
| 21:38.23 | NeoTron | ah nice |
| 21:38.25 | ckknight | Kaelten: what're you coding in? Still .NET? |
| 21:38.25 | Kaelten | but it will have a banner |
| 21:38.30 | Gnarfoz | in google, and am redirected to the correct ms page |
| 21:38.30 | Xuerian | web installer bah! |
| 21:38.31 | Kaelten | ckknight: java |
| 21:38.35 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 21:38.37 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r39942 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 21:38.37 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 21:38.37 | CIA-22 | - Added "Static Charge" from lady vashj |
| 21:38.37 | Xuerian | Redistributable ftnrw! |
| 21:38.40 | Saint-N | but without spyware how can it gather information? |
| 21:38.42 | hyperChipmunk | oooh |
| 21:38.55 | Saint-N | you're never gonna turn a profit it you dont key leg ;') |
| 21:38.56 | hyperChipmunk | not that i'm a fan of java |
| 21:39.01 | Gnarfoz | redist doesn't help shit if you are on a PC where you can download the web installer |
| 21:39.05 | hyperChipmunk | but at least i can run it now |
| 21:39.08 | Kaelten | Saint-N: lol |
| 21:39.11 | Arrowmaster | nobodys a fan of java, except crazy people |
| 21:39.12 | hyperChipmunk | so i can help other people |
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| 21:39.15 | Saint-N | keylog even |
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| 21:39.19 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: ftnrw: For the no reason win |
| 21:39.20 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: think I should audit Threat-1.0 again? |
| 21:39.25 | KarlThePagan | Saint-N, what kind of information should it gather? |
| 21:39.29 | Kaelten | ads are a nessecity. |
| 21:39.31 | KarlThePagan | username and home directory? kek |
| 21:39.39 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: It's a old habit I had from being on dialup where I'd download it overnight and disconnection was almost certain, the web installer sucks for that XD |
| 21:39.41 | BankZ | what addon would you guys recommend to time Hots and dots? |
| 21:39.45 | Kaelten | we had a 1k server bill last month |
| 21:39.50 | ckknight | Kaelten: dang |
| 21:39.56 | KarlThePagan | Arrowmaster, the java fans are coding it ;) |
| 21:39.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah, get with the times and all :p |
| 21:40.03 | Saint-N | umm im thinking anytime it reads a https creditcard screen in memory and of course login and passwords from wow since you can sell characters and gold pretty easy |
| 21:40.20 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:40.20 | kebinusan | bad Saint-N |
| 21:40.22 | Saint-N | Kaelten: unless you're getting paid for merely visuals banners arent gonna help ya |
| 21:40.35 | ckknight | Kaelten: as well as a banner, I do think a proper paypal thing would be a good idea |
| 21:40.46 | NeoTron | BankZ: Dottimer for dots.. dunno if it does hots but I'd assume it does |
| 21:40.46 | kebinusan | yea |
| 21:40.47 | KarlThePagan | Saint-N, dang... well sorry that's pretty tough to do in java |
| 21:40.49 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r39943 10BunchOfBars/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:40.49 | CIA-22 | BunchOfBars: |
| 21:40.49 | CIA-22 | - added "Static Charge" to the predefined debuff list |
| 21:40.49 | CIA-22 | - Offline > Afk |
| 21:40.50 | CIA-22 | - Translations for predefined text format descriptions |
| 21:40.50 | Saint-N | i for the most part ignore banners included in sites or if im forced to view them and generally dont go to that page orpurchse anything through them |
| 21:40.51 | Kaelten | ya there is still some work to do on the ui got a few ideas to help |
| 21:40.54 | hyperChipmunk | KarlThePagan: did that hit you out-of-pocket? |
| 21:40.54 | Xuerian | BankZ: Chronometer/HotCandy |
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| 21:41.09 | KarlThePagan | hyperChipmunk, uh wut? |
| 21:41.10 | ckknight | Kaelten: like banner in the topleft-middle, paypal in topright corner |
| 21:41.10 | hyperChipmunk | s/KarlThePagan/Kaelten/ |
| 21:41.13 | kebinusan | quartz works fine for me |
| 21:41.14 | KarlThePagan | ahaha k |
| 21:41.19 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Feel free if you want to, but I'm gonna make a fairly large commit in about 2 hours before I go home |
| 21:41.21 | NeoTron | BankZ: in fact it's DoTimer => http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5302-DoTimer.html |
| 21:41.25 | Saint-N | KarlThePagan: nah just make a java broswer clone that runs instead of ie or FF that way you can just "remember" the settings ;) |
| 21:41.28 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I'll wait until then |
| 21:41.28 | Antiarc|Work | I'm holding off so that the time between commit and test is minimal |
| 21:41.42 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: ad revenue for that won't be in for more than a month |
| 21:41.49 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Most of it revolves around changing the whole publish thing so it uses a bucket event rather than a timer |
| 21:41.55 | Antiarc|Work | Reduces the points of failure for a number of things |
| 21:41.56 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: that's irresponsible; you need to do like ckknight does |
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| 21:42.10 | ckknight | yea, totally just push and wait for the dust to settle |
| 21:42.14 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: But then Funkeh` will yell at me :( |
| 21:42.18 | ckknight | that's my preferred way |
| 21:42.20 | KarlThePagan | Saint-N, good idea... but that would take... a while to finish ;) |
| 21:42.28 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: But that's what makes it entertaining |
| 21:42.28 | Silviu- | And me too :( |
| 21:43.01 | Kaelten | I will say the only negative I see is that download size is going up some. |
| 21:43.08 | Saint-N | karl it's java, you just have to make it visually right and hook/load the real one underneath ;P |
| 21:43.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: but if Funkeh` doesn't yell at you, i need some other way to occupy my time tonight! :( |
| 21:43.16 | Saint-N | sorta like those gay irc clients |
| 21:43.20 | NeoTron | Kaelten: how about startup time? |
| 21:43.23 | Saint-N | only for a web browser |
| 21:43.24 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:43.28 | Kaelten | neotron mines fairly instant |
| 21:43.34 | Funkeh` | well ckknight broke like evry addon my guild uses beat that |
| 21:43.40 | Funkeh` | 1 hour of addon chaos |
| 21:43.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:43.44 | Saint-N | hahahha |
| 21:43.46 | Saint-N | nice |
| 21:43.46 | Kaelten | I don't see any noticable lag time on any computer I've tried it on. |
| 21:43.47 | ckknight | gotta hit the core |
| 21:43.55 | NeoTron | cool |
| 21:44.02 | ckknight | see, Funkeh`, unless I make my presence known, no one will appreciate me when everything works |
| 21:44.27 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, part of the startuptime issues are managed by the application framework being used |
| 21:44.30 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: I followed the same principle with the tainting fiasco last year :D |
| 21:44.40 | KarlThePagan | the actual startup time is honesly a little slower than WAU1 and it uses more memory |
| 21:44.54 | KarlThePagan | but the performance after that is pretty quick in most places |
| 21:45.03 | Kaelten | we'll have distros that include the jre so people without it installed will still only have the one download to do. |
| 21:45.05 | ckknight | Kaelten: is there a way to update WAU inside it? |
| 21:45.13 | ckknight | update itself, that is |
| 21:45.16 | NeoTron | ah yes that'd be nice |
| 21:45.19 | Kaelten | ckknight: thats one thing thats holding off release of the beta, we're working on it |
| 21:45.25 | Kaelten | I want it in before beta |
| 21:45.27 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:45.28 | KarlThePagan | yea lol |
| 21:45.34 | ckknight | where's the code? |
| 21:45.38 | KarlThePagan | otherwise ... it'd be out |
| 21:45.41 | Kaelten | its still closed until beta |
| 21:46.11 | ckknight | alright |
| 21:46.23 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: after I rode you two for some last minuite polishes :P |
| 21:46.27 | KarlThePagan | at this time if anyone is an Eclipse RCP developer you might be able to help us |
| 21:46.58 | KarlThePagan | general java stuff isn't an issue ;) |
| 21:48.33 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r39944 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.lua PallyPower.xml): |
| 21:48.33 | CIA-22 | PallyPower: |
| 21:48.33 | CIA-22 | - Skip the whole LastCast idea and just query UnitBuff every time we want a new time |
| 21:48.37 | Kaelten | I'm also looking at long term features that we may want to put in and future applications of this project so things are bright for it :) |
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| 21:51.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39945 10PitBull/Modules/ (26 files in 26 dirs): PitBull - update module check for ln -s environment |
| 21:53.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39946 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfix |
| 21:53.36 | Kaelten | speaking of .wau files I need to work parsing of them into the zip script |
| 21:54.08 | durcyn | ckknight: mind if i toss up a new lod bat for pb? or did you want to |
| 21:54.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39947 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - apparently commas are important |
| 21:54.25 | ckknight | durcyn: please do |
| 21:55.21 | durcyn | nevermind, didn't see that cd modules line, looks like you're a step ahead. |
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| 22:07.11 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39948 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 22:07.11 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 22:07.11 | CIA-22 | - added table-validate for rmdest so it appears as a selection list in the new FuBar plugin's dewdrop |
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| 22:07.37 | Ominous | is there a forum /wiki page for bm2 |
| 22:08.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Okay, this is really nifty.. http://www.mulle-kybernetik.com/software/iTunesFS/ |
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| 22:09.04 | hyperChipmunk | Ominous: for what purpose? |
| 22:09.24 | Ominous | so i can see what it does/advantages over postal |
| 22:09.59 | Gnarfoz | asdf |
| 22:10.30 | Gnarfoz | can't you make PitBull be aware of module name changes so it can transition settings from old to new, ckknight? ;D |
| 22:10.50 | hyperChipmunk | isn't the fact that i'm totally awesome enough? |
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| 22:12.24 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: I could, in theory, but it's much more complex than I want to deal with |
| 22:12.32 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 22:13.41 | Gnarfoz | re-doing settings then, yay :D |
| 22:14.27 | ckknight | yea, sorry bout that |
| 22:14.32 | ckknight | I don't plan on changing again |
| 22:15.15 | Gnarfoz | problem is not doing them again but figuring out what lost its settings and what didn't :D |
| 22:15.41 | ckknight | trh: <ckknight> I could, in theory, but it's much more complex than I want to deal with |
| 22:16.03 | trh | ckknight: isn't it just a newmodule.db = oldmodule.db? |
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| 22:17.09 | ckknight | trh: no |
| 22:17.11 | ckknight | not in the slightest |
| 22:19.18 | Antiarc|Work | "Antiarc, you sound like someone who thinks he knows how stuff works but has never tested it himself." |
| 22:19.20 | Antiarc|Work | It's Christmas! |
| 22:19.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc|Work or ckknight: is all this "party1 is not in your party." "party2 is not in your party." etc. stuff some debug message? |
| 22:19.23 | Dotted | ckknight http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/6360/ |
| 22:19.27 | ZealotOnAStick | and can get turn it off? |
| 22:19.31 | trh | Antiarc|Work: omg lol |
| 22:19.32 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: not from me |
| 22:19.55 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: Link? |
| 22:19.59 | trh | Antiarc|Work: answer: "and you sound like someone who just talks and talks and talks... without having the slightest clue" =) |
| 22:20.16 | Kalman| | Or is it the curse comment war? |
| 22:20.25 | Antiarc|Work | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 22:21.36 | Antiarc|Work | "Now you've made some incomprehensible comment about table lookups being bad. Do you realise accessing every variable in existance is a table lookup? There is no difference between 'x' and 'getglobal("x")' in a functional sense." |
| 22:21.39 | Antiarc|Work | HGahahahahahahahahahah |
| 22:22.07 | chutwig | vwee hee hee hee |
| 22:22.09 | trh | Antiarc|Work: hehe.. local x; function something() end let's see what's getglobal('x') and x in that function ;) |
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| 22:23.14 | Antiarc|Work | "You also claim i'm the only one who thinks the blizzard profiler is inaccurate. Are you saying you haven't heard anyone commenting that their computer runs slower with profiling on?" |
| 22:23.14 | Antiarc|Work | What. |
| 22:23.18 | Antiarc|Work | Dude. |
| 22:23.25 | hyperChipmunk | In conclusion, wow learn to program. Stop wasting time trying to optimise stuff like table lookups and function calls, and realise that you can decrease your processor time by orders of magnitude more if you implement better algorithms and overall structures and processes to your program. |
| 22:23.30 | hyperChipmunk | that's my favorite |
| 22:23.33 | trh | Antiarc|Work: what does speed have to do with accuracy? |
| 22:23.42 | Antiarc|Work | IT DOESN'T. |
| 22:24.05 | Antiarc|Work | "In conclusion, wow learn to program. Stop wasting time trying to optimise stuff like table lookups and function calls, and realise that you can decrease your processor time by orders of magnitude more if you implement better algorithms and overall structures and processes to your program." |
| 22:24.09 | kergoth | i dont know of any profiling method that doesnt introduce overhead, and hence changes the numbers. the key is that hte overhead is consistent, so that it can be compensated for. |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r39949 10JasonQuest/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | + Auto-Track is now available, and behaves much like Blizzard's. As such, the |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | + If DewDrop is loaded then the minimap button will now have a right-click menu |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-22 | - Multiple member indicator [2] will now only show when there are 2+ members |
| 22:24.18 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.47 | kergoth | so that guy thinks that not only is premature optimization bad, all optimizationi s bad |
| 22:24.47 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: wow, l2program |
| 22:24.48 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, exactly, kergoth |
| 22:25.00 | kergoth | right, join the rest of us who program for a living and try to keep claiming that |
| 22:25.01 | kergoth | please |
| 22:25.06 | kergoth | </rant> |
| 22:25.14 | sbu | mh, jasonquest screenshot? :p |
| 22:25.39 | trh | Antiarc|Work: lol.. the last sentence is the best... "better algorithms"... you should ask him if that does mean saving the class once on startup instead of every time? ;) |
| 22:25.44 | trh | +checking |
| 22:26.05 | chutwig | but trh surely you must know that developing fast and efficient algorithms is the easiest part of programming |
| 22:26.31 | hyperChipmunk | Finally, i'll tell you why KTM gets higher numbers than other mods. 1) Where most mods don't care about error handling and let the user be spammed by errors, KTM wraps a pcall around every service call and onupdate. This means you get specific error messages which can print out helpful diagnostic information, but there's more stack too. 2) KTM has a built-in profiler, which is wrapping onupdate calls. 3) Probably the most tellin |
| 22:26.32 | ckknight | I must reply to Kenco! |
| 22:26.37 | trh | chutwig: hehe.. ya.. it is... :) |
| 22:26.43 | chutwig | and anyone who suggests otherwise is most likely a communist |
| 22:26.51 | trh | chutwig: ... compared to testing and maintaining a big application ;) |
| 22:26.54 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: 3) Probabl |
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| 22:27.01 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.01 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.16 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, hahah |
| 22:27.25 | NightHawkTheSane | .... |
| 22:27.25 | kergoth | they wrap their onupdates in pcalls? |
| 22:27.26 | Daemona | o.O |
| 22:27.26 | kergoth | my lord |
| 22:27.35 | hyperChipmunk | is there anything there that DOESN'T hurt ACTUAL performance, too? |
| 22:27.39 | ckknight | kergoth: actually, AceEvent does the same thing. |
| 22:27.40 | kergoth | somebody stab that guy in the eye for me |
| 22:27.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: if you do its probably going to end the arguement in most peoples minds, since a lot of people know your one of the better coders at optimization |
| 22:27.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i must say, i'm pretty speechless. |
| 22:27.50 | ckknight | though nicer |
| 22:28.29 | ckknight | okay, nobody reply, as if there are any holes in the argument, they will be pointed out |
| 22:28.35 | ckknight | so we need a silver-bullet argument |
| 22:28.40 | kergoth | i'm betting that aceevent doesnt wrap the onupdate, but wraps the addon's function, so the pcall is at least only called every X seconds, whatever your recurring event is, right? the above paragraph implies different behavior than that |
| 22:28.44 | ckknight | e.g. "UR DUM" |
| 22:28.51 | ckknight | only more thorough |
| 22:29.02 | chutwig | l2code nub? |
| 22:29.02 | ckknight | kergoth: oh yes. |
| 22:30.51 | hyperChipmunk | so his "internal profiler" only profiles the processing and not the cruft? |
| 22:31.00 | hyperChipmunk | what exactly does that show? |
| 22:31.25 | trh | hyperChipmunk: that he's a moron |
| 22:32.12 | Kalman| | hyperChipmunk: How much time his processing chews up. Great if that's what you're interested in. |
| 22:32.16 | sbu | hmhm |
| 22:32.19 | sbu | happened again |
| 22:32.37 | hyperChipmunk | somehow pcalls and extra wrappers AREN'T part of the performance anyone would care about? |
| 22:32.40 | sbu | ram usage 99% - wow 500mb->100mb |
| 22:32.52 | sbu | page file 2gb :/ |
| 22:33.25 | trh | sbu: in my opinion it sounds like wow started to end itself and frees up memory - why it started to end itself is the question |
| 22:33.44 | Antiarc|Work | Would it be wrong of me to include "Can I has an assertation?" in my response? |
| 22:33.44 | Kalman| | sbu: That happens to me occasionally when I alt-tab a lot with other apps open. |
| 22:33.50 | Azurewrath | mhm... does anyone know if there is a good UberQuest alternative around yet? Should be more or less exactly like UberQuest, just with an active Autor.. |
| 22:34.03 | sbu | mhmm okay, then it will hopefully be fixed in 2.1.2 |
| 22:34.04 | sbu | :/ |
| 22:34.12 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: I HAS AN ASSERTATION |
| 22:34.18 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously, kudos to the guy for breaking the ground, but good LORD. |
| 22:34.20 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r39950 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:34.20 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 22:34.20 | CIA-22 | - Added items to the Halaa page / small fixes |
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| 22:34.47 | sbu | Kalman|: hmyep, seems to be alt-tab related |
| 22:35.07 | sbu | but the funny thing is - 2gb page file but no process >200mb |
| 22:35.11 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:35.16 | sbu | where is my memory |
| 22:36.04 | trh | sbu: it's more likely some driver or hardware problem |
| 22:36.13 | Gagorian | sbu: *inster picture of cat with text 'IM IN UR COMPUTR STEALIN UR MEMORYZ'* |
| 22:36.16 | Arrowmaster | sbu: check system cache in task manage under preformance |
| 22:36.20 | trh | Gagorian: lol |
| 22:36.28 | sbu | mhmmm |
| 22:36.30 | Gagorian | s/inster/insert/ |
| 22:36.36 | Arrowmaster | windows eats lots of ram and doesnt tell you about it |
| 22:36.58 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Like KTM profiler? |
| 22:37.02 | trh | Arrowmaster: he has 2 gb, even if windows xp does, it's alot less then wow should need |
| 22:37.02 | Gagorian | BURN |
| 22:37.17 | Arrowmaster | 2gb of ram or pagefile? |
| 22:37.23 | trh | Arrowmaster: ram and pagefile |
| 22:37.27 | trh | Arrowmaster: each |
| 22:37.32 | trh | Arrowmaster: not together =) |
| 22:37.33 | Arrowmaster | odd |
| 22:37.37 | sbu | i killed wow process and now its back to normal w/ 1g free |
| 22:37.42 | sbu | so my wow process took >1g |
| 22:37.49 | sbu | but showed only as 100-200 mb in taskman |
| 22:38.06 | trh | sbu: actualized sound, mainboard, network, graphic card drivers? |
| 22:38.20 | sbu | yup |
| 22:38.27 | trh | sbu: directx? |
| 22:38.29 | sbu | fresh windows install today |
| 22:38.33 | sbu | with latest drivers |
| 22:38.37 | sbu | yup, dx, then other stuff |
| 22:38.42 | trh | sbu: then maybe get older drivers ^^ |
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| 22:38.47 | sbu | :/ |
| 22:38.56 | Kalman| | sbu: What I found was when I killed the process, not all of the memory got freed, so it seems like there's some memory getting "lost" somehow in the alt-tabbing. |
| 22:39.02 | trh | sbu: did you look in the windows eventlog? |
| 22:39.12 | sbu | 1 moment ;o |
| 22:40.04 | sbu | nothing there |
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| 22:40.19 | Gnarfoz | what's the effective difference between SmartClass and PlayerClass, ckknight? I can't seem to grasp it ^^ |
| 22:40.30 | sbu | Kalman|: right |
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| 22:41.02 | trh | sbu: tried to reset your video settings in wow? maybe there was some setting saved which activated features in dx10 when you had vista which now troubles dx9/your card drivers |
| 22:41.05 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:41.28 | Gnarfoz | hm ok? ;D perhaps I'm just too tired :D |
| 22:42.15 | sbu | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6599.msg109162 <-- hmhm |
| 22:42.16 | Gnarfoz | so SmartClass would display "Paladin" for mobs of the 'has mana' type? |
| 22:42.21 | sbu | sounds like my problem ;o |
| 22:42.26 | Gnarfoz | where PlayerClass would display nothing? |
| 22:42.27 | ckknight | oh man, I have so much more to write |
| 22:42.40 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: no, it would display "Paladin" or "Mage", depending on what the game says. |
| 22:42.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's what I meant anyway |
| 22:42.51 | hyperChipmunk | moar |
| 22:43.00 | Gnarfoz | compared to 'humanoid' instead |
| 22:43.05 | Gnarfoz | then I guess [PlayerClass:CreatureType] is what I want ^^ |
| 22:43.09 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r39951 10CraftList2/ (CraftList2.lua localization.lua): |
| 22:43.09 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 22:43.09 | CIA-22 | - new slash commands for sending results directly to a player /clist enchant playername query, same goes for gem and craft |
| 22:43.14 | ckknight | I'm only half done :-( |
| 22:43.21 | hyperChipmunk | MOAR |
| 22:44.58 | sbu | mh, i could switch to windowed :/ |
| 22:45.18 | Kalman| | sbu: Get a laptop and run all the secondary applications on that. |
| 22:45.31 | Kalman| | Use synergy so it's a single keyboard/mouse. |
| 22:45.32 | sbu | nah, sucks :) |
| 22:45.43 | Kalman| | It's what I wound up doing. |
| 22:46.14 | sbu | the bad thing is that it worked well with win vista (i think thats the only thing that worked well there... :o) |
| 22:46.35 | Kinkx | lol, 2nd arena weapons = Tier 3 blacksmith weapons.. gonna be crazy |
| 22:47.41 | hyperChipmunk | "1) Where most mods don't care about error handling and let the user be spammed by errors, KTM wraps a pcall around every service call and onupdate." |
| 22:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | i'm a nub, but what's a service call? |
| 22:48.39 | hyperChipmunk | also, spammed by errors is a good thing |
| 22:48.49 | hyperChipmunk | it lets you know there's something wrong |
| 22:49.04 | hyperChipmunk | when there's something wrong, errors had better be spammed |
| 22:49.04 | Kalman| | Actually, not being spammed by errors without having to manually block them is the best thing, because it means shit is working right. |
| 22:49.56 | hyperChipmunk | pcalls are for debugging |
| 22:50.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc|Work: ping |
| 22:50.06 | ckknight | I'm almost done |
| 22:50.09 | ckknight | I'll pastey before posting |
| 22:50.09 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 22:50.12 | ckknight | so you can critique |
| 22:50.19 | hyperChipmunk | unless you're writing something with an api |
| 22:50.25 | trh | hyperChipmunk: true..exactly like asserts :) |
| 22:50.32 | Antiarc|Work | I should pastey before posting too |
| 22:50.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I was gonna ask |
| 22:50.49 | hyperChipmunk | that you pastey |
| 22:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | I'm a champion grammar nazi |
| 22:51.15 | sdouble | NOU |
| 22:51.31 | trh | i think kenco just can't get over the fact that his project has some very unperformant code inside |
| 22:51.42 | chutwig | the usual word in english is "slow" |
| 22:51.53 | trh | i was gonna write badly performing code ;) |
| 22:52.10 | chutwig | scheisslangsam? |
| 22:52.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc|Work: I'm in a 5 man in a heroic. 4 of us have Omen, 1 (the warrior) has KTM. |
| 22:52.23 | trh | hehe ya.. something like that ;) |
| 22:52.24 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm not seeing the aggro gain bar at all. |
| 22:52.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I've unchecked it. |
| 22:52.31 | ZealotOnAStick | left it a moment. |
| 22:52.33 | ZealotOnAStick | then rechecked it. |
| 22:52.38 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: hits the nail on the head ;p |
| 22:52.39 | chutwig | is it generating an error that's being suppressed? |
| 22:52.41 | Antiarc|Work | ZealotOnAStick: Yeah, it's getting filtered out by the class filtering. |
| 22:52.41 | Daemona | hmmm well that would hit the nail on the head in german ;) |
| 22:52.46 | ZealotOnAStick | still no bar. r39812 omen and 39911 threat |
| 22:52.50 | Antiarc|Work | Since it doesn't have a class :) |
| 22:52.54 | Antiarc|Work | It's on the to-fix for tonight |
| 22:53.00 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: if it does, then way to go on making digging his own hole xD |
| 22:53.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. Well, I have all the classes checked . . . still borked? |
| 22:53.23 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 22:53.25 | chutwig | the german contingent of #wowace is out of control with the idioms tonight! |
| 22:53.28 | Antiarc|Work | I'll have it fixed tonight |
| 22:53.47 | Gnarfoz | we could start a club |
| 22:53.51 | Gnarfoz | =:d |
| 22:53.52 | Daemona | deine mutter? ;) |
| 22:53.54 | Kalman| | Daemona: Where in Germany are you from? |
| 22:54.00 | trh | Gnarfoz: ne deine! ;) |
| 22:54.03 | chutwig | nein DEINE |
| 22:54.15 | Gnarfoz | that's basically NO U xD |
| 22:54.17 | Daemona | Kalman| currently? or generally? ;) |
| 22:54.19 | Gnarfoz | (rather, yours) |
| 22:54.23 | Kalman| | Daemona: Either or both. |
| 22:54.32 | Daemona | pm ;) |
| 22:55.19 | Gnarfoz | HH? |
| 22:55.33 | trh | HH rocks ^^ |
| 22:55.35 | trh | kietz! ;) |
| 22:55.39 | Gnarfoz | could also be HB, versatel sucks at naming their routers |
| 22:55.45 | chutwig | ich gebe offen zu dass mein befehl von der umgangssprache ein bisschen arm ist |
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| 22:56.00 | Gnarfoz | almost perfect :> |
| 22:56.02 | chutwig | mir hat leute gesagt, dass ich ihnen klinge wie ein buch |
| 22:56.10 | chutwig | i'm crazily out of practice |
| 22:56.13 | Gnarfoz | just 'my command of s.th' doesn't quite work that way in german ^^ |
| 22:56.25 | nekoh | lol |
| 22:56.26 | chutwig | you see? tripped up by another idiom |
| 22:56.43 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39952 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 22:56.43 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 22:56.43 | CIA-22 | - Spell: koKR Update |
| 22:56.47 | Gnarfoz | yeah, evil idioms |
| 22:56.48 | chutwig | herrschaft? |
| 22:56.56 | trh | chutwig: weltherrschaft! |
| 22:57.02 | nekoh | omg :D |
| 22:57.08 | chutwig | ACHTUNG |
| 22:57.17 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net/56874 <-- too harsh? |
| 22:57.21 | ckknight | pastey incoming |
| 22:57.23 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: no |
| 22:57.33 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: learn me some cherman |
| 22:57.35 | trh | omg.. 2 pasteys at the same time ;) |
| 22:57.36 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/56875 |
| 22:57.40 | ckknight | lemme read, Antiarc|Work |
| 22:57.41 | ckknight | read mine |
| 22:57.48 | ckknight | mine is well thought out |
| 22:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 22:57.55 | ckknight | and makes him seem like a depraved child |
| 22:58.03 | chutwig | dass ich die umgangssprache etwas arm beherrsche? |
| 22:58.07 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: I'm just trying to retrofit your sentence up there with a better way of saying it :> |
| 22:58.11 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 22:58.14 | chutwig | erfolg |
| 22:58.19 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 22:58.37 | chutwig | i just got this mental image of a german pimp saying "netttttttttttttt" |
| 22:58.49 | chutwig | with a really cheesy thumbs-up |
| 22:58.55 | Gnarfoz | I don't think you can actually strecht out a 't' |
| 22:59.08 | Gnarfoz | s/strecht/stretch/ |
| 22:59.12 | Daemona | hrm looks like i better get a bouncer on here to hide from you :D |
| 22:59.15 | Gnarfoz | that t moved TWO characters! :p |
| 22:59.18 | trh | chuckg: you would usually stretch the e ;) |
| 22:59.30 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: just ask a staffer for a cloak ;) |
| 22:59.41 | chuckg | Hmm? |
| 22:59.44 | Gnarfoz | nut you |
| 22:59.45 | trh | chutwig: you would usually stretch the e ;) |
| 22:59.46 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 22:59.49 | Gnarfoz | nOt you |
| 22:59.51 | chutwig | so pingelig |
| 22:59.54 | trh | *curses his auto-completion* |
| 22:59.55 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: yours is harsh, frankly, I think it'd be good to go along with mine |
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| 23:00.06 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, you wanna go first, or shall I? |
| 23:00.15 | Daemona | gimme a sec to read ;) |
| 23:00.16 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: Mox X |
| 23:00.18 | ckknight | I'll go first |
| 23:00.20 | Antiarc|Work | I'm pissed and feeling well trolled. |
| 23:00.21 | ckknight | you go after |
| 23:00.23 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, ok. |
| 23:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | vs Mod Y |
| 23:00.26 | hyperChipmunk | line 31 |
| 23:00.29 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 23:00.34 | hyperChipmunk | 32 |
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| 23:00.39 | hyperChipmunk | no, 31 +) |
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| 23:00.48 | ckknight | posted. |
| 23:01.25 | Antiarc|Work | And posted. |
| 23:01.30 | Gnarfoz | shit, how fast did you come up with all of /that/? :D |
| 23:02.17 | Gagorian | Ahh perfect, more KTM drama to ready |
| 23:02.25 | Gagorian | s/ready/read/ |
| 23:02.26 | chutwig | do-ra-ma |
| 23:02.44 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: line 15 is jacked up, punctuationally |
| 23:02.51 | chutwig | so how complete is the regex parser on that anyway |
| 23:02.53 | Antiarc|Work | I'm a fast writer. |
| 23:02.59 | trh | ckknight: very nice pastey |
| 23:03.21 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I can't find it |
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| 23:03.50 | hyperChipmunk | ial, with a flat `x`, it's a single table lookup. with `_G.x`, it' |
| 23:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | at least capitalize With |
| 23:04.24 | trh | Antiarc|Work: you should change the world has to render part, the world gets rendered by the graphic card :) |
| 23:04.39 | Antiarc|Work | trh: There is a lot of work done by the CPU in actually rendering the world. |
| 23:04.49 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: handled |
| 23:04.59 | trh | Antiarc|Work: ya, but not the rendering itself |
| 23:05.02 | Antiarc|Work | I've got several years of 3D graphics programming under my belt. You have to account for it. |
| 23:05.05 | ckknight | okay, now it's everyone's job to vote up our posts. |
| 23:05.21 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Well, if you want to be pedantic, then sure, the actual polygons are done by the GPU :P |
| 23:05.22 | trh | Antiarc|Work: more like saying the card where to place actors/stuff in the world |
| 23:05.52 | trh | Antiarc|Work: well.. i'd bet kenco c&p's exact that part and saying you don't have the slightest clue :) |
| 23:05.55 | Antiarc|Work | World state management, texture/model pipeline to the card, netcode, sound handling, input handling...etc. |
| 23:06.26 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: kenco's an idiot, he'll probably say that regardless. ;) |
| 23:06.29 | nekoh | schlammschlacht! |
| 23:06.33 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: hehe |
| 23:06.39 | hyperChipmunk | and to be a total nitpick, sentence 1 in line 19 should have a colon instead of a period |
| 23:06.50 | Gagorian | ckknight: And your post is green'd |
| 23:06.51 | Antiarc|Work | Fine, edited :P |
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| 23:06.56 | trh | nekoh: when done by naked girls i'm voting a 100% yes! |
| 23:07.16 | nekoh | i'd too :P |
| 23:07.33 | Lyfe | well, i learned something about lua today in those two pasteys. |
| 23:07.54 | hyperChipmunk | antiarc now too |
| 23:08.02 | ckknight | Lyfe: I like to teach people. I also like to stick it to Kenco |
| 23:08.06 | KarlThePagan | is this wonderful delicious drama on the wow UI forums? :D |
| 23:08.07 | ckknight | this time, I accomplished both. |
| 23:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | that's a huge block of green there |
| 23:08.13 | trh | KarlThePagan: on curse |
| 23:08.17 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268682 |
| 23:08.18 | KarlThePagan | excellent |
| 23:08.26 | hyperChipmunk | lol, mine's at +4 too |
| 23:08.29 | hyperChipmunk | *bumps* |
| 23:08.34 | Lyfe | well, i learned about the lookups required for variables based on their locality. |
| 23:08.34 | hyperChipmunk | huger block of green |
| 23:08.37 | trh | let's vote! =) |
| 23:08.44 | hyperChipmunk | no need; they're all green now |
| 23:09.02 | Gagorian | Vote to secure green status from KTM fanbois |
| 23:09.03 | Gagorian | ! |
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| 23:09.10 | trh | hyperChipmunk: if somebody does bad-vote for them they turn white, don't they? |
| 23:09.10 | hyperChipmunk | everyone votes it'll look (rightfully) that it's stuffed |
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| 23:10.45 | ckknight | Lyfe: "scope" |
| 23:11.25 | Lyfe | ckknight: i'm not terribly familiar with lua, and hadn't yet connected that with scoping. |
| 23:11.39 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: i do like the twin emps thing =) |
| 23:11.40 | ckknight | okay, is there no solution to the whole PitBull WAU module thing? |
| 23:11.41 | hyperChipmunk | i laughed |
| 23:11.45 | Lyfe | maybe it's just the fumes from painting though :) |
| 23:11.51 | Peoii | ok, this is strange. |
| 23:11.52 | trh | scope is a thing thats present in alot of other programming languages =) |
| 23:11.58 | Peoii | That's the 2nd hard crash of WoW today. |
| 23:12.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: If I get ambushed by the twin emps in nagrand, I am so totally blaming you. |
| 23:12.20 | hyperChipmunk | Peoii: not strange; mine crashes whenever my tallstrider dies >8\ |
| 23:12.25 | hyperChipmunk | hehee |
| 23:12.36 | trh | hyperChipmunk: THAT is strange =) |
| 23:12.37 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: kk, COD me for the repair bill since Omen made you pull aggro |
| 23:12.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: oh, i will! :p |
| 23:12.53 | Gnarfoz | [IsPlayer?PlayerClass!CreatureType] [IsPlayer?SmartRace] <-- this would give me player's classes + race, if it's a player; "Humanoid", "Beast" and stuff, otherwise, right? |
| 23:13.28 | Gnarfoz | (with dogtag, that is) |
| 23:13.39 | ckknight | yea, better way: [IsPlayer?Text([PlayerClass] [SmartRace])!CreatureType] |
| 23:14.02 | trh | saves one if! hooray for our optimizer! ;) |
| 23:14.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:14.17 | ckknight | not a big optimization |
| 23:14.21 | ckknight | but one nonetheless |
| 23:14.28 | ckknight | seeing as IsPlayer would've been used twice, it'd be cached |
| 23:14.32 | trh | if you'd call it 70 times a second it'd ;) |
| 23:14.41 | hyperChipmunk | wow, learn to code |
| 23:14.43 | Gnarfoz | thx =) |
| 23:14.45 | ckknight | you'd call it once. |
| 23:14.47 | Gnarfoz | anyway, trh |
| 23:14.56 | hyperChipmunk | s/code/program/ |
| 23:14.58 | Gnarfoz | it'd sounds weird, is that valid? |
| 23:15.01 | KarlThePagan | time to upvote some comments :D |
| 23:15.33 | Antiarc|Work | I'm irritated at myself for letting myself be trolled, but damn. |
| 23:15.46 | ckknight | I don't know why hyperChipmunk's comment is voted so high, it's just a troll |
| 23:15.52 | Antiarc|Work | It really is :P |
| 23:16.00 | Gnarfoz | or rather, as you and I are the non-native speakers, we should turn tables on chutwig and ask him! "it'd" for "it would" sounds weird to me, is that a normal use of contractions? |
| 23:16.14 | ckknight | yes, Gnarfoz |
| 23:16.17 | chutwig | sounds fine to me |
| 23:16.28 | trh | ya.. it'd is very common in english texts ;) |
| 23:16.29 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: I contract some things that I shouldn't, mind you |
| 23:16.31 | chutwig | klingt mir gut |
| 23:16.32 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: yea, that's why I deleted it |
| 23:16.39 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: probably for the best. |
| 23:16.41 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: "hoert sich gut an" :) |
| 23:16.42 | hyperChipmunk | once your comments are in there, it isn't necessary |
| 23:16.47 | ckknight | like "shouldn't've" |
| 23:16.55 | chutwig | Gnarfoz: das hört mir gut an |
| 23:17.00 | Gnarfoz | nah |
| 23:17.01 | trh | ckknight: that does look strange to me ;) |
| 23:17.15 | ckknight | trh: it does to most people, it's improper |
| 23:17.26 | ckknight | you shouldn't have multiple contractions in one word |
| 23:17.31 | chutwig | meh |
| 23:17.34 | ckknight | I'm not one to care, though |
| 23:17.35 | chutwig | people know what you mean |
| 23:17.54 | chutwig | and everyone does it except the really militant prescriptivists who also complain if you "split an infinitive" or "end a sentence in a preposition" |
| 23:18.02 | chutwig | then i drop out of the sky and split their skull in twain |
| 23:18.02 | Gnarfoz | chutwig: again those damn idioms, they don't want to be translated literally ;> if we keep going on, they'll form a union! :D |
| 23:18.05 | NeoTron | so if the MT gets hit for 10k non-crit/non-crush frost damage on Lurker.. wtf happened? |
| 23:18.15 | trh | ckknight: we germans created new words instead of using the ' ;) |
| 23:18.20 | NeoTron | I can't seem to find anything that says that the tank should be hit that hard (not spout) |
| 23:18.36 | ckknight | trh: you just shove like 5 words together and call it a new word |
| 23:18.44 | Gagorian | kek hyperChipmunk's post was deleted |
| 23:18.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, we do that |
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| 23:19.06 | Gnarfoz | actually, people nowadays tend to use the english way |
| 23:19.12 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Rogue is tanking how can this be? |
| 23:19.22 | Gnarfoz | and instead of concatenating, they just make a big string of words |
| 23:19.26 | trh | ckknight: na.. usually the ending of a known word was changed to indicate to show the reference |
| 23:19.30 | hyperChipmunk | Gnarfoz: I did so after they put theirs up |
| 23:19.41 | ckknight | trh: :-P |
| 23:19.42 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 23:19.43 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 23:19.49 | KarlThePagan | this is delicious delicious drama... yum yum /popcorn |
| 23:19.52 | Gnarfoz | tab complete fails again! |
| 23:20.08 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Perhaps better so ;) |
| 23:20.15 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: feral druid last night |
| 23:20.17 | trh | Gnarfoz: you fail at tab completion.. muhahaha ;) |
| 23:20.20 | Gagorian | KarlThePagan: Indeed. I'm waiting for responce! |
| 23:20.26 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: It was a joke :P |
| 23:20.28 | KarlThePagan | yes yes! |
| 23:20.30 | Gnarfoz | trh: I did oO, hyperChipmunk did! :p |
| 23:20.31 | NeoTron | but it was frost damage. is his melee hits frost? |
| 23:20.34 | Antiarc|Work | I'm all rawr and bitey now. |
| 23:20.42 | trh | Gnarfoz: everyone does! |
| 23:20.42 | KarlThePagan | screenshot the page so that when he deletes the comments we can slander him! |
| 23:20.52 | Gnarfoz | trh: everybody lies. :p |
| 23:21.03 | trh | Gnarfoz: hehe.. house rocks! ;) |
| 23:21.13 | Gnarfoz | on hiatus though, sadly |
| 23:21.42 | trh | Gnarfoz: hiatus? |
| 23:21.55 | Gnarfoz | winterschlaf, literally |
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| 23:22.05 | trh | Gnarfoz: thought that was called hibernation |
| 23:22.05 | Gnarfoz | the time between seasons of a show/series |
| 23:22.17 | Gnarfoz | hrm, |
| 23:22.18 | Kalman| | Hiatus. |
| 23:22.20 | Gnarfoz | purl knows all! |
| 23:22.21 | purl | and don't you forget it |
| 23:22.24 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de hiatus |
| 23:22.30 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict hiatus |
| 23:22.36 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 2 hiatus |
| 23:22.37 | trh | Mut zur Lücke! ;) |
| 23:22.51 | Gnarfoz | ah, I was mistaken then |
| 23:24.09 | trh | Gnarfoz: entourage starts running again soon.. also funny ;) |
| 23:24.44 | Gnarfoz | don't you give me any ideas, I'm happy I'm not currently following any shows, so much more spare time now :D |
| 23:25.06 | trh | Gnarfoz: i wonder why they didn't made it crappy by synchronizing it to german for germant v |
| 23:25.15 | Gnarfoz | they will |
| 23:25.17 | Gnarfoz | you bet |
| 23:25.18 | trh | Gnarfoz: it's about a movie star and his entourage |
| 23:25.21 | Gnarfoz | they always do :\ |
| 23:25.34 | trh | Gnarfoz: with guest appearances from real movie/tv stars and writers and stuff |
| 23:25.49 | trh | Gnarfoz: but it's already in it's 4th season in a few days |
| 23:25.52 | Thrae | Hmmm, can anyone show me a screenshot of the default tooltip when mousing over a player in a guild? |
| 23:26.02 | trh | Gnarfoz: http://imdb.com/title/tt0387199/ |
| 23:26.07 | Gnarfoz | trh: it's never too late for them to fuck it all up by dubbing it :D |
| 23:26.32 | Roartindon | Wow, I just read that threat, Kenco is a pretty angry man |
| 23:26.36 | Roartindon | thread* |
| 23:26.41 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: should look basically like it looks with tinytip now, too, shouldn't it? |
| 23:26.43 | trh | Gnarfoz: hehe. true.. i really noticed first when watching scrubs |
| 23:27.00 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Well, I'm too lazy to walk over to my gaming machine, patch it to 2.1, and login |
| 23:27.13 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just flabbergasted at his ability to stick his fingers in his ears and ignore what everyone says. |
| 23:27.17 | Thrae | I heard Guild Names were added to the default, for one |
| 23:27.21 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: heh, I can give you a screenshot of what it looks like with TinyTip if you want |
| 23:27.34 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: I want it -without- TinyTip |
| 23:27.41 | trh | Thrae: ya, heard that too.. |
| 23:27.55 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: heh, I got into that frustration with shadowd before |
| 23:27.57 | Gnarfoz | TinyTip doesn't do anything to the Guild portion of th tooltip anymore |
| 23:28.07 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: And I believe he also tried to troll you on the EJ forums |
| 23:28.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: yes, guild name is now in the default player tooltip |
| 23:28.10 | Antiarc|Work | I wish that we could just work together to develop good stuff for the WoW community, you know? |
| 23:28.13 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: He did. |
| 23:28.30 | Thrae | I need to know what it -looks like- |
| 23:28.38 | Thrae | Not if it just exists or not ;) |
| 23:28.47 | trh | Antiarc|Work: from what i read out of his comments it's very hard to work with him together |
| 23:28.57 | Antiarc|Work | Unfortunately, I agree. |
| 23:29.11 | Gnarfoz | trh: -together ;-) |
| 23:29.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: oh, uh, well i can describe it, its just the guild name on a separate line, i think directly under player name. *shrug* i'd get a screenie, but i'm anally organizing my itunes library right now. ;) |
| 23:29.38 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm is there any work done in Threat-1.0 for temp-aggro resets(e.g. the trashmobs that freezing trap you in kara just before the opera)? :O |
| 23:29.45 | Gnarfoz | I'm getting you a screenshot, Thrae, just a sec ;-) |
| 23:29.49 | Antiarc|Work | KTM broke a lot of really good ground, and did/does some really great stuff, but that doesn't excuse poor design or an unwillingness to correct it when help and advice are offered. |
| 23:29.56 | sag_ich_nicht | (i'm asking because i want to use Threat-1.0 :P) |
| 23:30.14 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: That's not a threat reset - it's just CC. You have your same threat, but mobs ignore CCed targets |
| 23:30.34 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: get a shaman to drop a grounding totem =) |
| 23:30.37 | Antiarc|Work | In that case, you don't want to reset the threat level, because you want to see what your threat is coming out of the ice tomb |
| 23:30.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: agreed, certainly, and his poor behavior and refusal to see reason kind of discredits any good he's done with ktm :\ |
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| 23:31.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39953 10PitBull/ (172 files in 54 dirs): PitBull - move modules back to the root directory, as WAU can't handle subpaths for some ungodly reason. |
| 23:31.35 | hyperChipmunk | wtf fo |
| 23:31.38 | Funkeh` | 172 files ... |
| 23:31.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: actually, it's a temp-threat reset. our warrior demonstrated that quite quickly by spellreflecting it |
| 23:31.46 | Daemona | i guess sag_ich_nicht wants to point out that zero-ing the ice-trapped persons threat would make it really obvious who needs a blessing of protection @ Antiarc|Work ;) |
| 23:31.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Daemona that too |
| 23:32.00 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: That's what target-of-target is for! :) |
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| 23:32.17 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: It's a full threat reset? That doesn't really match what I've seen. :/ |
| 23:32.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: it think it's a temp-threat reset |
| 23:32.28 | Antiarc|Work | Our warriors usually have aggro back pretty fast once the tomb breaks |
| 23:32.38 | Antiarc|Work | Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean |
| 23:32.41 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/tooltip.png |
| 23:32.42 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work i know ppl that dont know they can change the camera position with right-click and move mouse... do you think they no the target of target option? |
| 23:32.42 | sag_ich_nicht | you can spellreflect the tomb |
| 23:32.55 | sag_ich_nicht | so a warrior doesn't get frozen |
| 23:33.05 | sag_ich_nicht | yet the mob will still go ahead and punch who ever is second in the aggrolist |
| 23:33.07 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: My wife unbound her WASD and only moves with the mouse + right click. QQ |
| 23:33.10 | NightHawkTheSane | that doesn't affect threat modifications, though... |
| 23:33.16 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, hm. |
| 23:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 23:33.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:32] <Daemona> Antiarc|Work i know ppl that dont know they can change the camera position with right-click and move mouse... do you think they no the target of target option? <--and THAT too. |
| 23:33.34 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh |
| 23:33.39 | trh | Antiarc|Work: omg.. that might work on a pve server ;) |
| 23:33.41 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: The bottom-right is the default tip? |
| 23:33.42 | hyperChipmunk | how does she move backwards/strafe? |
| 23:33.46 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: yes |
| 23:33.54 | nekoh | i dont think these peaple should enter karazhan :O |
| 23:33.58 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Hunter. She doesn't have to. :) |
| 23:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 23:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | hunters need to strafe |
| 23:34.11 | sag_ich_nicht | a lot |
| 23:34.11 | Arrowmaster | the mobs in kara that icetomb, they wont attack you if you tombed, and even if you reflect it or grounding totem it im perty sure they still reduce your threat some |
| 23:34.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: what?!? |
| 23:34.13 | Antiarc|Work | I don't know. She manages it somehow :P |
| 23:34.13 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 23:34.16 | hyperChipmunk | i'm a hunter |
| 23:34.17 | Antiarc|Work | I'm joking! |
| 23:34.18 | hyperChipmunk | i do it all the time |
| 23:34.24 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Excellent. |
| 23:34.26 | Antiarc|Work | I just know she rebound her movement to something really wacky |
| 23:34.38 | Antiarc|Work | And every time I try to move her somewhere I end up dropping a trap and aimed shotting somethign |
| 23:34.43 | Thrae | Does anyone know if there are any other minor changes to the look of the tooltip, like different reaction colouring? FrameXML doesn't make it seem so |
| 23:34.51 | NeoTron | so Lurker's Spout always starts at the MT? or the person with the highest threat? |
| 23:34.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: hilarity ensues? :P |
| 23:34.59 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: So you think the threat wipe applies for the duration of the tomb, whether it lands or not? |
| 23:35.04 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Exactly! |
| 23:35.08 | trh | Antiarc|Work: i tried to rebound it to sdfe, to have additional keys on the left side, but i couldn't get used to it =) |
| 23:35.16 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Have you encountered TinyTip doing anything weird besides problems with textures (buffs, etc.) |
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| 23:35.29 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Well, usually MT = highest threat. But yes, against highest threat target. |
| 23:35.30 | hyperChipmunk | http://darklegacycomics.com/87.html http://darklegacycomics.com/95.html |
| 23:35.31 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I had a fun thing happen - one of them teleport me to them (I was dpsing it, so in LoS and range) and then ice tombed me. was really weird |
| 23:35.40 | Gnarfoz | nothing unexplainable (and I'm not using that many of its features, actually ;-)) |
| 23:35.40 | NeoTron | Gagorian: highest melee or highest period? |
| 23:35.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: i think that might just be the case, but i think it might be an aggro modificator over time |
| 23:35.53 | NeoTron | because I can go a lot higher than the MT in that fight :P |
| 23:35.54 | sag_ich_nicht | like |
| 23:36.07 | hyperChipmunk | my movement is bound to ,aoe |
| 23:36.12 | Antiarc|Work | That seems like a really complex mechanic to implement for an on-boss mob. :/ |
| 23:36.12 | hyperChipmunk | >8O |
| 23:36.16 | Antiarc|Work | non-boss* |
| 23:36.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: it's blizzard :P |
| 23:36.26 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 23:36.27 | trh | hyperChipmunk: that definitly doesnt work with a qwertz keyboard ;) |
| 23:36.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i couldn't explain it in some other way |
| 23:36.35 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: "Unexplainable"? |
| 23:36.37 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: most obvious is the positioning when anchored to the cursor which gets confused by different size tooltips (small ones work fine, bigger ones get shifted up, left, wherever ;)) |
| 23:36.50 | Thrae | Ah |
| 23:36.51 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Well. Try it once. If it backfires I think the raid will make sure you don't do it again ;) |
| 23:37.12 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Considering that it gets applied even on reflect, I'm not even sure how I'd handle that. It's like...a spellcast from you onto the mob at that point, I think. I'm not sure. |
| 23:37.13 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Do you give an offset? |
| 23:37.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'll keep it in mind though, and do some event watching next time we're there |
| 23:37.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ;) |
| 23:37.31 | sag_ich_nicht | *:) |
| 23:37.51 | NeoTron | Gagorian: well reason I ask is because I know he started on me once |
| 23:37.55 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: yes :) I never liked it "right on top" of the cursor, the tooltip then blocks me from seeing what I am actually mousing over just then ;) |
| 23:38.03 | Daemona | i'd prefer some aggro-reduce handling on gurtogg bloodboil :/ i cant figure it out for the sake of it.... |
| 23:38.07 | NeoTron | I jumped and avoided it, and then got up and got hit again (why does it go like 400 degrees? grr) |
| 23:38.10 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: Is there a Threat API call yet for me to reset a mob's specific threat? :) |
| 23:38.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: well, our warrior can just go ahead and punch the mob to get the aggro back very quickly, so i'm not sure what it is. >.> |
| 23:38.45 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Yeah, that's the default behavior or ANCHOR_CURSOR...otherwise it uses an OnUpdate to manually move the tooltip around. Mmmm, I wonder why it suddenly is having problems, it's not relative to the screen...oh well, maybe ANCHOR_CURSOR is finally fixed |
| 23:38.56 | Hotphoenix | btw leotheras isn't getting threat wiped on omen atm |
| 23:39.15 | Gnarfoz | perhaps it is, I have these same settings since like... since I use TinyTip ;) |
| 23:39.36 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: ive seen one of those guys evade bug out trying to pull it then 1 shot a rogue and reset |
| 23:39.44 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: You mean for just the player? |
| 23:39.48 | Antiarc|Work | Don't have one of those just yet. |
| 23:39.54 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: Yeah, just for the player |
| 23:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: maybe it's "go attack second in threat list until X aggro is generated on mob by first in aggrolist or [here some handler for what happens if some other DD goes up in the threat beyond the current target]" |
| 23:40.41 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: I'll bet what it is is something like an inverse taunt |
| 23:41.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ...that sounds plausible. |
| 23:41.03 | Antiarc|Work | Second on the aggro list gets the first's threat level + aggro, so the first needs threat * 110% to get aggro back. |
| 23:41.30 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, sounds good |
| 23:41.37 | trh | who the hell is "N00bZXI"? |
| 23:41.43 | Antiarc|Work | Not me! |
| 23:41.46 | Gnarfoz | heh wtf |
| 23:41.46 | NeoTron | so why go through so much effort for mobs that are so ezmode now? :P |
| 23:41.56 | hyperChipmunk | professional pride |
| 23:41.58 | Roartindon | NeoTron: completeness? :) |
| 23:42.05 | ckknight | trh: he's in #wowi-lounge |
| 23:42.12 | Antiarc|Work | I'll think about how to handle that one, sag_ich_nicht |
| 23:42.22 | trh | ckknight: he made a comment in the threatmeter comments ;) |
| 23:42.23 | Gnarfoz | I log in to fiddle a bit with TinyTip's settings and the moment my loading screen is gone some level 70 guildless mage 'Joyfulboy' (on a german RP realm) /trades me a locked lockbox |
| 23:42.32 | ckknight | I saw |
| 23:42.32 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think I have a mechanism for handling incoming resisted or reflected aggro-changing abilities. |
| 23:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | :) i think it's plausible to think these wouldn't be the only mobs they use such a mechanic on :O |
| 23:42.37 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.41 | Roartindon | NeoTron: And sorting out possibilities now may make future implementations for important bosses easier |
| 23:42.57 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:41] <NeoTron> so why go through so much effort for mobs that are so ezmode now? :P <--i think it's ridiciulous that they made them shackable, and we only downed curator for the first time today >.> |
| 23:42.58 | NeoTron | Roartindon: perhaps |
| 23:43.00 | Antiarc|Work | Well, I'll definitely see if I can figure something out. Once it's modeled it'd be easy enough to validate or invalidated. |
| 23:43.02 | Antiarc|Work | invalidate* |
| 23:43.14 | NeoTron | they were a bit hard before but are too easy now |
| 23:43.18 | Roartindon | sag_ich_nicht: Heh, you could have done it when they weren't shacklable a month ago :) |
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| 23:43.23 | Antiarc|Work | I'd be happy if just just doubled the HP and made them single pulls. |
| 23:43.24 | NeoTron | they shoudln't be shackable but not hit as hard or something |
| 23:43.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Roartindon: no, i couldn't, because i didn't have the people nor the equip to go kara |
| 23:43.39 | Arrowmaster | the double usher pull is easy if you just have dps alternate between them |
| 23:43.39 | Antiarc|Work | Double pulls + no CC + threat wipes + hitting that hard was really rough. |
| 23:43.50 | Arrowmaster | the icetomb is just a deagroo + cc |
| 23:43.51 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Not so much if both your tanks get tombed at the same time |
| 23:43.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and we killed them before 2.1 with no deads |
| 23:43.58 | sag_ich_nicht | with a worse group |
| 23:43.59 | sag_ich_nicht | easily |
| 23:44.05 | sag_ich_nicht | >.< |
| 23:44.11 | Antiarc|Work | It's always a tossup to whether the both ice tomb at the same time or not |
| 23:44.26 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: Shaman totems ftw. Still deaggro, ,but one layer of safety :) |
| 23:44.28 | Antiarc|Work | We had two tanks build threat on them both, so if one got tombed the other would have the mob. |
| 23:44.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 23:44.40 | Antiarc|Work | But when both the tanks get tombed at the same time thanks to the RNG, yousa screwed. |
| 23:44.42 | Daemona | after all they are just like the murloc warrior before tidewalker... you have to alternate targets with 2 tanks to preserve aggro with taunt etc. so they dont drop 100% aggro sometime. |
| 23:44.50 | Cryect | if you have warrior tanking they shouldn't get frozen and if you have druids/pallys tanking shouldn't have any issue swapping between them |
| 23:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work: actually we managed to bomb them once when that happened |
| 23:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: wouldn't they just switch and beat on the other tombed tank? |
| 23:45.09 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: No, they ignore tombed people |
| 23:45.10 | Cryect | NightHawkTheSane: Right thats what happens |
| 23:45.14 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: No they don't |
| 23:45.19 | Antiarc|Work | You sure? |
| 23:45.21 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: From my experience, they'd beat on the tombed tank |
| 23:45.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: no, they don't. unless it's changed since the last time i tanked kara |
| 23:45.25 | Antiarc|Work | Huh. Never saw that happen. |
| 23:45.27 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: As long as it wasn't the FIRST one |
| 23:45.29 | Cryect | They still beat on ice tomb tanks |
| 23:45.30 | Chompers | Antiarc|Work, any news on omen+graphlib? |
| 23:45.32 | Cryect | that means your tanks suck :-p |
| 23:45.39 | Roartindon | As in, if the second on the aggro list is the other tank, and they get tombed, the mobs beat on them |
| 23:45.45 | Cryect | THey need to be second on aggro on the other mob |
| 23:45.48 | Arrowmaster | maybe if your tanks taunt them right before the tomb or something... |
| 23:45.54 | Cryect | can't taunt |
| 23:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: nah |
| 23:45.56 | Roartindon | Arrowmaster: Not tauntable |
| 23:45.59 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 23:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | I've had the 'other |
| 23:46.15 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. i've had the 'other' one attack me just by laying out a few cleaves |
| 23:46.22 | Arrowmaster | i really should get back to this heroic shattered halls |
| 23:46.29 | NightHawkTheSane | even while i was tombed by the one i was tanking |
| 23:47.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work now that i told you this "interesting" problem, how reliable is thread-1.0 yet? i only started looking at it closely today(but was following the drama already quite a bit :P) |
| 23:47.06 | Cryect | they are really hard if your tanks don't know what to do |
| 23:47.14 | Cryect | and really easy if they know what to do and how to do it well |
| 23:47.14 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: It's close, but there are a few outstanding issues |
| 23:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you your tanks don't know what to do, they get kicked out of the raid |
| 23:47.25 | sag_ich_nicht | problem solved |
| 23:47.26 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: pretty good, at least in karazhan |
| 23:47.29 | Antiarc|Work | feign death and soulshatter resists still clearing/halving threat is the big one, but that's rough for me to test. |
| 23:47.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Cryect: and if you have one good tank, and one not so good tank, it gets really interesting. :p |
| 23:47.33 | Cryect | hehe I remember first time on beta thinking what the fuck at them till we figured it out :-p |
| 23:47.40 | Antiarc|Work | Some issues with pet threat, but I think I've got that nailed down in my working copy. |
| 23:47.41 | Cryect | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah >_> |
| 23:47.50 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: commit yet? |
| 23:48.01 | Cryect | NightHawkTheSane: had that happen with some DPS warriors not being able to generate threat on secondary targets worth a damn |
| 23:48.02 | Daemona | its close enough for me, i dont run ktm anymore, nobody needs to see my threat and as long i see all warriors above me on omen (which still use ktm) i dont mind anything ;) |
| 23:48.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 23:48.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Daemona so sending out threat data to ktm doesn't work yet? :O |
| 23:48.35 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Heh, heading home in 10, will commit before then :) |
| 23:48.39 | trh | Antiarc|Work: the best way is probably hooking the frame where resist gets printed and saving the last few messages there, if a resist is close to the time feign death was started it was resisted |
| 23:48.39 | Daemona | i doubt it will ever |
| 23:48.51 | Daemona | why should omen send threat data to ktm? |
| 23:48.52 | sag_ich_nicht | (it was already hard enough to get all my raidmembers to use KTM >.>) |
| 23:49.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Daemona omen shouldn't |
| 23:49.01 | hyperChipmunk | trh: yea, but which mob(s) resisted? |
| 23:49.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Threat-1.0 should, if at all :P |
| 23:49.12 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I'll audit when you do |
| 23:49.31 | hyperChipmunk | the other thing with FD is that you can fd and get back up before your agro clears |
| 23:49.33 | trh | hyperChipmunk: oh.. good question... i think you can't decide that |
| 23:49.35 | Cryect | uh we can't get the frames where they resist actually can we? thought they were actually 3d text messages that popped over the heads |
| 23:49.38 | Daemona | it shouldnt either, as its designed to be better and the downward compatibility should be sufficient by reading "bad old data" ;) |
| 23:49.43 | trh | hyperChipmunk: so you'd have to not reset aggro at all (safest way) |
| 23:49.46 | Cryect | unlike the name plates |
| 23:49.54 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: it would be absurd to, seeing as KTM isn't target-based and Threat-1.0 is |
| 23:49.59 | hyperChipmunk | the only thing I really muse about is doing a bunch of UnitAffectingCombats |
| 23:50.07 | hyperChipmunk | but I don't know if even that works |
| 23:50.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight hokay |
| 23:50.19 | hyperChipmunk | because you'd still have link agro |
| 23:50.33 | hyperChipmunk | but it might work for standing up before agro clears |
| 23:50.48 | hyperChipmunk | hm, but you still have agro from pet |
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| 23:51.02 | hyperChipmunk | you don't go out of combat always even if it does |
| 23:51.12 | hyperChipmunk | btw i really hate that =\ |
| 23:51.18 | hyperChipmunk | it didn't used to be that way |
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| 23:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | considering i have a pretty fast cpu, is there anything yet (threat detection wise, not code wise :P) that KTM does better than Threat-1.0? :O |
| 23:51.32 | hyperChipmunk | took me awhile to get used to waiting a second or two |
| 23:51.49 | trh | hypetech: ya.. i hate it too... additionally the new pet dismiss/recall when mounting is very annoying when you get chased by a flying mob |
| 23:52.07 | trh | DAMN YOU auto-completion |
| 23:52.11 | trh | i meant hyperChipmunk |
| 23:52.13 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: It's more mature. That's about it. |
| 23:52.19 | hyperChipmunk | yea, anything agro on you gets tranferred to the pet when you land |
| 23:52.29 | Antiarc|Work | Once Threat matures, its featureset is going to outweigh KTM pretty heavily, I think. |
| 23:52.33 | trh | hyperChipmunk: ya.. because the pet is instantly their and the mob aggros the pet |
| 23:52.43 | Daemona | sag_ich_nicht, unless Antiarc|Work grabbed all the knockback thread reducers from ktm threat-1.0 lacks those modifiers. else i'd say it does all it has to do (from a rogue's point of view) :D |
| 23:52.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:52] <Antiarc|Work> Once Threat matures, its featureset is going to outweigh KTM pretty heavily, I think. <--i know that |
| 23:52.50 | trh | hyperChipmunk: if you land before the mob reched you and instantly feign death it still works |
| 23:53.05 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: Threat handles all knockbacks in the general case (50% reduction) and has a boss module for Void Reaver (25%) |
| 23:53.43 | Daemona | guess i have to get you some data on gurtogg then, any suggestions how to do that? |
| 23:53.44 | sag_ich_nicht | and i intended to switch to Threat-1.0 anyway, i just wanted to know what to expect beforehand :P |
| 23:54.08 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: you can run ktm and threat/omen parallel for a while to check yourself =) |
| 23:54.10 | Daemona | if you arnt a tank, nothing there that should stop you. |
| 23:54.44 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: Bloodmoil? Having the debuff Multiplies all your threat by 0 |
| 23:54.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:52] <Antiarc|Work> Once Threat matures, its featureset is going to outweigh KTM pretty heavily, I think. <--that's what i meant, what doesn't it outweight yet? :P |
| 23:54.48 | Antiarc|Work | (In threat) |
| 23:54.51 | Daemona | class modules working, reading tanks ktm data |
| 23:55.02 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Being proven, mostly. |
| 23:55.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work fine |
| 23:55.15 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work he does some threat-reducing hit on tanks too |
| 23:55.30 | Daemona | my MT tried to explain it to me, i didnt understand it ;) |
| 23:55.31 | hyperChipmunk | sag_ich_nicht: ubiquity |
| 23:56.27 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 23:56.32 | sag_ich_nicht | it's hard being a raidleader |
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| 23:56.38 | trh | TANKs are the first ones that should switch exclusively |
| 23:56.43 | trh | the only way EVERYONE does :) |
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| 23:56.50 | trh | because if they can't see the tank's aggro with ktm |
| 23:56.51 | sag_ich_nicht | it's harder to be a retribution paladin |
| 23:56.56 | sag_ich_nicht | and it's even harder to be both :O |
| 23:56.58 | trh | it's pretty useless to use ktm anyway |
| 23:57.04 | art3mis | its not hard tobe ret |
| 23:57.11 | art3mis | it's hard to get groups if you're ret ;) |
| 23:57.40 | sag_ich_nicht | not really |
| 23:57.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it's easier already |
| 23:57.48 | Daemona | ret-arded? ;) |
| 23:57.59 | sag_ich_nicht | s/already/actually |
| 23:58.08 | sag_ich_nicht | because you auto-filter 90% of all the idiots |
| 23:58.16 | sag_ich_nicht | who think ret isn't viable :P |
| 23:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | (or doesn't do damage) |
| 23:58.51 | trh | we had a retro pala tank in karazhan.. worked good =) |
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