| 00:00.38 | kenlyric | I blame ou |
| 00:00.42 | kenlyric | *you |
| 00:00.45 | Chompers | ~seen sole |
| 00:01.21 | purl | sole <n=chatzill@203.109.169.2> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23h 52m 39s ago, saying: 'my warriors name is Buttbomb as an example'. |
| 00:01.22 | Chompers | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:01.29 | Chompers | bah |
| 00:02.24 | Xuerian | What a quitting quote. |
| 00:05.33 | deltron | lol buttbomb |
| 00:05.56 | deltron | Stan3: #wau |
| 00:06.34 | Kaelten | beats head on wall |
| 00:07.09 | Gngsk | ckknight, ping |
| 00:07.19 | deltron | hopefully it's not near the wall clock |
| 00:07.19 | Xuerian | Something wrong, Kaelten? :P |
| 00:07.54 | Gngsk | anyone with commit access, found a typo in the latest pitbull revision |
| 00:07.56 | Gngsk | [2007/06/04 20:05:59-897-x10]: PitBull-r38421\PitBull.lua:1933: attempt to call global 'ScheduleDestroyClsuter' (a nil value) |
| 00:07.58 | Kaelten | ya I'm doing an import on a file in python and it gives me an error about a import line inside of it. but then I do that same line in the shell and is no issues |
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| 00:11.49 | Galka | Does anyone know of a decent, working, standalone Resurrect monitor? |
| 00:12.25 | deltron | i've gone without one for a whil |
| 00:12.28 | deltron | while* |
| 00:12.30 | deltron | :P |
| 00:13.08 | Galka | Yeah but I've been hearing to much QQing about not having one :/ |
| 00:14.40 | chutwig | has the rangecheck in pitbull broken for anyone else recently? |
| 00:14.57 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38496 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:14.57 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 00:14.57 | CIA-22 | - Added formatTime tag and made stuff use it |
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| 00:16.01 | Bver | hey whats a good cooldown mod |
| 00:16.16 | deltron | for yourself? |
| 00:16.22 | Bver | currently using coolDown, but im not too fond of it |
| 00:16.30 | Bver | yeah for me |
| 00:17.03 | deltron | let me check the one I use that I like..sec |
| 00:17.21 | Kinkx | I'm using CooldownBars, since it looks better imo |
| 00:17.42 | deltron | chronometer |
| 00:17.46 | deltron | i think is what i use |
| 00:18.40 | durcyn | Hourglass. |
| 00:18.45 | durcyn | There is only Hourglass. |
| 00:18.55 | Bver | yeah i switched from chronometer to natur's becuase chrono would lose my banish timer form time to time |
| 00:19.07 | Bver | from* |
| 00:19.14 | durcyn | Chronometer is dot duration. Hourglass is cooldowns. And it doesn't suck. |
| 00:19.39 | Bver | ok ill check it out |
| 00:19.40 | Bver | thanks |
| 00:20.23 | jwwpua | can you resize hourglass bars? |
| 00:22.04 | haste | I use oCD, but I haven't released it :3 |
| 00:23.19 | Stan3 | *waits for oCB update* :P |
| 00:23.20 | Gnarfoz | -.- |
| 00:23.34 | deltron | ooooh |
| 00:23.40 | deltron | I miss oCD heh |
| 00:23.47 | steino | I use oCB, but haste haven't released it :3 |
| 00:24.18 | Gnarfoz | quartz > all anyway now |
| 00:26.28 | deltron | heh |
| 00:27.12 | [Liquidor] | api for tabbing? |
| 00:27.20 | [Liquidor] | among targets |
| 00:29.29 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: read through http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 00:30.27 | [Liquidor] | well did so already, not sure what I should be looking for since the word "tab" well gives no result |
| 00:31.20 | Roartindon | targetting |
| 00:31.54 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38497 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 00:31.54 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 00:31.54 | CIA-22 | -Boss: koKR typo fix |
| 00:33.50 | [Liquidor] | Hmm |
| 00:34.09 | [Liquidor] | it says TargetNearestEnemy(); is protected... does this mean I won't be able to make a macro to target enemies infront of me? |
| 00:34.53 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38498 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua: |
| 00:34.53 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 00:34.53 | CIA-22 | -Mount : typo fix |
| 00:35.09 | Gngsk | [Liquidor], /targetnearestenemy |
| 00:35.28 | [Liquidor] | Super, thanks |
| 00:36.37 | [Liquidor] | Hmm doesn't do anything |
| 00:37.40 | Gngsk | uh, /targetenemy |
| 00:38.32 | [Liquidor] | Yeah that's it. Super |
| 00:38.37 | Gngsk | Duper! |
| 00:39.47 | [Liquidor] | Just got a little tired of tab ice lancing in AV after 2 hours |
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| 00:45.58 | Stan3 | the bartender stancebar is kinda broken |
| 00:46.03 | Stan3 | figure: http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3158/wowscrnshot060507023751xb7.jpg |
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| 00:46.22 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38499 10ForkliftGnome/ (ForkliftGnome.lua ForkliftGnome.toc Quips.lua): |
| 00:46.23 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 00:46.23 | CIA-22 | - Use a different quip for when addons fail to load, including the reason |
| 00:46.24 | Stan3 | it overlaps the bar below |
| 00:46.54 | BankZ | Is prat a pig? |
| 00:48.10 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38500 10ArenaMaster/ArenaMaster.toc: |
| 00:48.10 | CIA-22 | ArenaMaster: |
| 00:48.10 | CIA-22 | - Add toc fields for using ForkliftGnome as a LoadManager. |
| 00:48.32 | Kalman| | Prat |
| 00:48.40 | Kalman| | is using ~800 kb memory for me right now. |
| 00:49.43 | vodrin- | prat is ok when you delete the modules you don't want =x |
| 00:50.45 | Kalman| | Yeah, pretty much. The only time it really bulks up is if you store a lot of name info. |
| 00:51.12 | vodrin- | wtb chinese people on server to farm 7,8 of blessings. insane trinket :< |
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| 00:51.42 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38501 10MobHealth/MobHealth.toc: |
| 00:51.42 | CIA-22 | MobHealth3: |
| 00:51.42 | CIA-22 | - Add toc fields for using ForkliftGnome as a LoadManager. |
| 00:51.48 | CIA-22 | 03darchon * r38502 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:51.48 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 00:51.48 | CIA-22 | - UTF-8 (hopefully) |
| 00:51.48 | CIA-22 | - update koKR |
| 00:52.12 | kenlyric | yay, netherspite dead, karazhan dead. now just need 10 more people for grull. |
| 00:54.52 | NeoTron | WTB more ppl for SSC |
| 00:55.03 | NeoTron | we got plenty attuned, yet failed to go twice this week |
| 00:55.04 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 00:58.50 | kenlyric | neotron, wow, that is kinda rough, since SSC attunement actually requires some work. |
| 00:59.05 | kenlyric | 44 people keyed for karazhan, 19 people once for grull's. |
| 01:00.54 | shieldb | gah, what was the non-crappy ace lootlink equivalent? |
| 01:01.01 | Roartindon | itemsync? |
| 01:01.16 | shieldb | does that do inline item linking? |
| 01:01.22 | Roartindon | not sure |
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| 01:01.37 | NightHawkTheSane | define inline item linking? |
| 01:01.54 | Roartindon | typing something and having it produce the link I assume |
| 01:01.54 | Kalman| | shieldb: KC_Items? |
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| 01:02.11 | hyperChipmunk | shieldb: you're thinking of ludwig |
| 01:02.25 | hyperChipmunk | oh, ace |
| 01:02.29 | hyperChipmunk | itemsync, yea |
| 01:03.11 | hyperChipmunk | and kc_items, if kael ever finishes it |
| 01:03.22 | Kalman| | The ace2 branch is somewhat functional now. |
| 01:04.48 | Antiarc|Sleep | GetLink is love |
| 01:05.50 | nekoh_ | i'm using ludwig |
| 01:07.06 | frop | lo |
| 01:07.31 | frop | someone can tell me why Omen doesnt' show its gui? |
| 01:08.12 | frop | is FuBar needed is some way? |
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| 01:08.49 | shieldb | frop, /omen toggle ? |
| 01:08.59 | frop | isn't a registered command :P |
| 01:09.05 | shieldb | what about /omen ? |
| 01:09.12 | shieldb | if /omen doesn't work then omen isn't running properly |
| 01:09.13 | frop | neither it |
| 01:09.19 | frop | heh |
| 01:09.28 | frop | i'd like to know why |
| 01:09.52 | Tuyk | you have Threat running too? |
| 01:10.04 | frop | i got it, yeah |
| 01:10.12 | vhaarr | Maybe you should ask blizzard, and not us. |
| 01:10.24 | frop | don't know if it's "running"...but it's there |
| 01:10.39 | frop | vhaarr? |
| 01:10.59 | vhaarr | Sounds to me like you've got Lua errors disabled. |
| 01:11.01 | vithos | speaking of threat, my own pet+some druid who got removed from the raid's threat is not cleared after a mag wipe (target=a channeler) |
| 01:11.11 | frop | i've swatter too |
| 01:11.33 | Fin | swatter? I hardly knew 'er |
| 01:11.37 | frop | and it shows lua error |
| 01:12.12 | frop | swatter is a debugging tool |
| 01:13.27 | frop | how could it enable Lua errors? |
| 01:14.38 | frop | SET scriptErrors "1" |
| 01:14.46 | cladhaire | swatter wouldn't need to |
| 01:14.55 | cladhaire | anythign that uses seterrorhandler() automatically does it |
| 01:15.24 | frop | well it was for saying that i get error from lua |
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| 01:19.17 | frop | i got two error on starting, one from TitanRepair.lui and one from sct |
| 01:19.38 | Gagorian | TitanRepair?! |
| 01:19.38 | Gagorian | Be ashamed :( |
| 01:20.05 | frop | sct\libs\Ace2\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua |
| 01:20.35 | frop | that FuBarPlugin-2.0 requires DewDrop-2.0 |
| 01:20.45 | Fin | does anyone know a function to reset the sound? |
| 01:21.34 | frop | and no, Omen doesnt register its /omen command |
| 01:22.52 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r38503 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Add an OnClick toggle. |
| 01:24.03 | shieldb | hmmm... any idea what might break cartographer_instancenotes / instanceloot? |
| 01:24.14 | shieldb | it's been broken for me for over a month and I'm finally trying to fix it ;) |
| 01:24.18 | shieldb | no errors though |
| 01:24.34 | shieldb | just no notes, either |
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| 01:35.27 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38504 10BigWigs/ (SC/Hydross.lua SC/Lurker.lua TheEye/Solarian.lua): BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 01:37.18 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38505 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: koKR typo fix |
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| 01:42.39 | Kyahx | ckknight: has anyone started on a threat bar module for pitbull yet that you know of? |
| 01:42.53 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38506 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/GroupMembers.lua Modules/Threat.lua): |
| 01:42.53 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 01:42.53 | CIA-22 | - Hopefully fixed errors on load for first-time Assessment users |
| 01:43.37 | Kyahx | I hacked together a functional but very ugly one today, allthou im at a complete loss for making it not look terrible :) |
| 01:44.37 | Tuyk | So is Omen/Threat sync'ing with KTM in anyway? |
| 01:45.13 | NightHawkTheSane | threat will read data from ktm, but not vise versa |
| 01:45.24 | Blime | Tuyk: it is listening from ktm, but not talking back |
| 01:45.42 | Tuyk | greta thats all i needed to know, time to convert the guild |
| 01:45.47 | Tuyk | great* |
| 01:45.57 | haarm | Tuyk, its a bit early for that |
| 01:46.10 | Blime | Tuyk: i'd give it a few more weeks, but it may be good for those early adopters |
| 01:46.16 | haarm | i'm testing out omen/threat but the current bugs make it unreliable |
| 01:46.25 | Tuyk | hmm |
| 01:46.47 | haarm | i.e. today at leotheras the blind, not resetting threat when the boss changes forms |
| 01:47.05 | haarm | so you don't really know what your threat is |
| 01:47.12 | Thorgard^2 | Hmm, anyone know of a decent item-linking mod? Like turning [Ravag<tab> into the [Ravager] itemlink in chat? |
| 01:47.25 | haarm | loads of little things like that make it not really ready for an uh.. production environment |
| 01:47.48 | haarm | Tuyk, get a few people running it side by side with ktm for now, and just report bugs, best thing to do imo |
| 01:48.08 | Tuyk | ya maybe your right :) |
| 01:48.33 | FroMaster | Is there a bugzilla or something similar I can check to see if a bug has been reported? |
| 01:49.00 | haarm | Thorgard^2, as far as i know nothing like that exists, i was looking for something similar, and checked out the periodic table library, but, items aren't stored as names, they're stored by compressed item ids |
| 01:49.12 | NightHawkTheSane | FroMaster: there's trac, but its hit and miss whether authors utilize it |
| 01:49.13 | haarm | i don't think a database of item name / id pairs exists |
| 01:49.23 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38507 10ForkliftGnome/Conditions.lua: |
| 01:49.23 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 01:49.23 | CIA-22 | - Add a hack to prevent problems with slash commands for now, pending some straightening out of AceConsole. |
| 01:49.27 | Thorgard^2 | haarm, shucks. :/ |
| 01:49.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Thorgard^2: Ludwig and Itemsync both support typelinks like that, but i don't believe either supports tabcomplete |
| 01:50.44 | haarm | and it will only work for seen items |
| 01:50.59 | NightHawkTheSane | well,thats true of most item databases. |
| 01:52.06 | Aenslaed | is there a way to lock the position of omen? |
| 01:52.12 | haarm | well with an item id you can request details of items not in your local cache, or you haven't seen |
| 01:52.24 | FroMaster | NightHawkTheSane: I wanted to check on Click2Cast specifically.. the latest version doesn't seem to work |
| 01:53.04 | NightHawkTheSane | FroMaster: well im not the developer, so im not the person to ask. best bet would be to check the forums |
| 01:55.30 | Diao | gfw_linkerator |
| 01:55.32 | Diao | supports tab complete |
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| 02:03.56 | JoshBorke | Cryect: bah, recount isn't working for me now :-P |
| 02:04.36 | JoshBorke | nvm, new files = restart wow |
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| 02:15.58 | Fin | oh wow, Quartz has a quit bar, that's nifty |
| 02:16.16 | FroMaster | I'm checking out Pitbull for the first time.. What is the Focus frame? How do I select who is my focus? |
| 02:16.29 | Fin | it's not pitbull specific |
| 02:16.37 | Fin | check the forums / patch notes for 2.0 |
| 02:16.52 | Fin | (WoW 2.0, that is) |
| 02:18.25 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight or Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/51128 |
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| 02:19.09 | FroMaster | Fin: While I pretend to understand most of this stuff, is there a way to set focus via a key command or do I need to create a macro/use a mod to do so? |
| 02:20.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah its in keybindings |
| 02:20.28 | Arrowmaster | has been since 2.0 |
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| 02:20.58 | Fin | there are slash commands and key bindings |
| 02:21.10 | Fin | think of it as target 2 |
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| 02:22.37 | CIA-22 | 03kyahx * r38508 10PitBull_Threat/ (. PitBull_Threat.toc Threat.lua): |
| 02:22.37 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Threat: inital commit |
| 02:22.37 | CIA-22 | - Functional but ugly module to show current/max threat on the target frame |
| 02:22.38 | CIA-22 | - Based off the PitBull_Experiance module |
| 02:22.38 | CIA-22 | - I'm at a loss for how to continue, so anyone who knows PitBull better is free to take this and run with it |
| 02:23.54 | kebinusan | ckknight: [2007/06/04 22:23:21-1639-x3]: PitBull-r38421\PitBull.lua:1933: attempt to call global 'ScheduleDestroyClsuter' (a nil value) |
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| 02:25.58 | Fin | [04:24:56] < CIA-22> kyahx * r38508 PitBull_Threat/ (. PitBull_Threat.toc Threat.lua): |
| 02:25.58 | Fin | kyahx commmitted this module |
| 02:25.58 | Kyahx | yea |
| 02:25.58 | Kyahx | its crap atm |
| 02:25.59 | Kyahx | but it works |
| 02:25.59 | Fin | oh, wait |
| 02:25.59 | Fin | your error isn't to do with Threat necessarily |
| 02:25.59 | Fin | pardon me |
| 02:25.59 | Kyahx | :) |
| 02:29.07 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38509 10ForkliftGnome/Conditions.lua: |
| 02:29.07 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 02:29.07 | CIA-22 | - Fix slash command bug. |
| 02:31.21 | durcyn | nymbia: so when i load quartz with Forklift, then try to use /quartz, i get stack overflows all over the place |
| 02:31.46 | kenlyric | woot, right on cue! Kargath assploded right at 10:30. |
| 02:32.50 | nymbia | durcyn: read the message above yours. |
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| 02:39.13 | durcyn | nymbia: oh, well. |
| 02:39.17 | durcyn | of course i saw that. |
| 02:39.23 | durcyn | >_> |
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| 02:42.16 | Tuyk | lol another guild on the server looted Wildfury Greatstaff off of SSC trash and no droods in the raid rofl |
| 02:43.40 | ZealotOnAStick | no druids? WTH? |
| 02:43.57 | ZealotOnAStick | either tree healing buffs or feral offtanks, druids are teh useful. |
| 02:43.59 | Tuyk | Thats what i said |
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| 02:56.18 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38510 10ForkliftGnome/Conditions.lua: |
| 02:56.18 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 02:56.18 | CIA-22 | - Safety catch for infinite loops if slash commands are indicated in toc fields but not implemented in the addon. |
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| 02:56.37 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r38511 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.lua: XLootGroup: Various code cleanups I forgot to commit a while back. |
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| 02:58.27 | durcyn | tuyk we've gotten two of those staves, both went to resto druids while the ferlols were offline |
| 02:58.32 | durcyn | jesus weeps |
| 02:58.36 | Tuyk | ouch |
| 02:58.48 | Tuyk | yeh we got 2 ferals in our guild who cried |
| 02:59.06 | Tuyk | we not started SSC yet, will be starting it end next week with any luck :D |
| 02:59.54 | KarlThePagan | reagentfu should show bullets/arrows |
| 03:00.00 | KarlThePagan | might check in something |
| 03:00.47 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38512 10ForkliftGnome/Conditions.lua: |
| 03:00.47 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 03:00.47 | CIA-22 | - Error when slash commands aren't overwritten properly by the addon. |
| 03:01.04 | aen` | anyone got a link to the update joana leveling guide |
| 03:01.31 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38513 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 03:01.31 | CIA-22 | .AceConsole-2.0: |
| 03:01.31 | CIA-22 | - Don't check if we're overwriting commands, just do it. |
| 03:01.31 | CIA-22 | - If there was a compelling reason for this to be here in the first place, feel free to revert. |
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| 03:02.30 | kergoth | pet threat doesnt seem to be getting cleared properly |
| 03:02.33 | kergoth | when the mob dies and all |
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| 03:04.59 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38514 10ForkliftGnome/Conditions.lua: |
| 03:04.59 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 03:04.59 | CIA-22 | - Replace an important, accidentally deleted line ;) |
| 03:07.27 | Xuerian | durcyn: I was on guild chat on horde (rp server, main was feral on alliance).. And someone told me that this awesome epic set of feral boots got DE'd. I cried. >.< |
| 03:07.42 | chutwig | we keep getting so many lw patterns in SSC |
| 03:07.45 | Xuerian | Well. Figuratively. |
| 03:07.47 | chutwig | and we have like one leatherworking shaman |
| 03:08.36 | durcyn | blah. any us pve guilds in ssc/tk want a warlock? tired of wiping to the stupid lurker. |
| 03:09.05 | aen` | server doesnt have better guilds? |
| 03:09.13 | durcyn | this is the top one, such a shortbus realm |
| 03:09.25 | aen` | i play on pvp :/ |
| 03:13.28 | Cryect | JoshBorke: Whats it bitching about? |
| 03:13.35 | Cryect | oh nm |
| 03:13.42 | *** join/#wowace sbu_ (n=sb@dslb-084-056-167-229.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:13.52 | Cryect | didn't read the next line (damn find showing what I search for as the last line) |
| 03:17.21 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38515 10ForkliftGnome/Conditions.lua: |
| 03:17.21 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 03:17.21 | CIA-22 | - One last extra bit of safety on slash stuff, let's make sure the hash_SlashCmdList is cleared of our crap even if the addon isn't loaded before trying to re-issue a chat message. |
| 03:19.06 | theoddone33 | hm black temple almost cleared... pve sounds easy |
| 03:19.26 | theoddone33 | I know how they can fix it though... queue 5 man arena teams into black temple to fight with 25 man raids during boss fights |
| 03:19.33 | theoddone33 | with = against |
| 03:19.44 | Diao | hmmm |
| 03:19.58 | Diao | blizzcon is less than 20 min away from me.. do i want to pay $100 to get a sc2 beta key or not |
| 03:20.16 | theoddone33 | hmm it's an hour and a half away for me |
| 03:20.19 | theoddone33 | don't think I'll go |
| 03:20.36 | Keias | If you were Korean, I'd say yes |
| 03:20.39 | Diao | lol |
| 03:22.40 | rophy | how do I make Omen works with pet? |
| 03:23.35 | *** join/#wowace copystring__ (n=copystri@p548a16c2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:24.00 | undu | Diao, if nothing else I'd gladly pay you 100$ dollars to pick me up a SC2 beta key and most important a murloc costume! |
| 03:24.15 | Diao | lol |
| 03:24.16 | undu | Stupid 1000$ flight to the US. >< |
| 03:25.49 | Keias | The costume looks HILARIOUS |
| 03:27.11 | Roartindon | A guild on our server got 3 Wildfury Greatstaffs yesterday on the trash to Hydross |
| 03:27.23 | Roartindon | our guild druids were VERY jealous |
| 03:27.47 | CIA-22 | 03darchon * r38516 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Threat-1.0: UTF-8 (again) |
| 03:28.06 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 03:28.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 03:28.49 | Roartindon | Kyahx: ping |
| 03:30.24 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi_ (i=j39f3fs@p5091DF0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:35.38 | Roartindon | rophy: Omen should work with pets already? |
| 03:38.10 | *** join/#wowace nadas_ (n=nadas@217.198.219.102) |
| 03:38.41 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight or Antiarc: ping |
| 03:38.52 | KarlThePagan | would anyone object to "-> " as "Arrow" and "* " as "Bullet" |
| 03:39.06 | KarlThePagan | seems kind of silly, but fubar space is a premium ;) |
| 03:39.53 | CIA-22 | 03darchon * r38517 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Illhoof.lua: Threat-1.0: UTF-8 (finally) |
| 03:40.05 | NightHawkTheSane | could always use the unicode arrow character. >.> |
| 03:40.22 | KarlThePagan | hmm |
| 03:40.25 | Arrowmaster | wows fonts support unicode? |
| 03:40.26 | Roartindon | A lot of unicode special characters don't show up in WoW |
| 03:40.44 | Roartindon | I wanted to use the male/female symbols in Aloft, and no fonts had them in there |
| 03:40.47 | KarlThePagan | might be per-font |
| 03:40.47 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you'd probably need a font that has support >.> |
| 03:41.04 | Arrowmaster | which reminds me i need to find a copy of chinese or korean wow |
| 03:41.13 | KarlThePagan | fubar's font is user settable IIRC |
| 03:41.30 | KarlThePagan | testing on my rogue now... so we shall see |
| 03:41.41 | rophy | Roartindon: I dunno... I load Omen, kill a mob with my Imp and only my threat is listed. |
| 03:41.48 | Arrowmaster | ive heard if you install an asian wow and point it to the us or eu realms you can make a character name with unicode characters in it |
| 03:42.27 | Arrowmaster | althought theyve probably fixed that by now considering what the bug is |
| 03:45.09 | Roartindon | rophy: hmm.. wonder if it's an omen specific thing, or something in Threat-1.0 |
| 03:45.21 | Roartindon | Because pets were working in Threat-1.0 before for certain :) |
| 03:45.58 | rophy | hmm |
| 03:46.05 | KarlThePagan | rophy, oh oh ! i saw that happen |
| 03:46.18 | KarlThePagan | it happened to me right after i resurrected my cat on my hunter |
| 03:46.37 | KarlThePagan | only my threat, not my pet's was showing |
| 03:47.15 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BD80E.versanet.de) |
| 03:47.35 | KarlThePagan | my pets usually work btw |
| 03:47.40 | darchon_ | Arrowmaster/ http://kldp.net/frs/?group_id=300 korean open source fonts |
| 03:47.41 | Wobwork | That's happened to me =( |
| 03:47.44 | KarlThePagan | but for some reason it got lost at that time |
| 03:47.49 | Wobwork | either my pet or I don't show up |
| 03:48.03 | KarlThePagan | i've never had myself not show if I was hitting it |
| 03:48.16 | Wobwork | I've had it happen a number of times |
| 03:48.22 | Arrowmaster | darchon_: i dont think that would work considering what the bug i was refering to actually was |
| 03:49.11 | Arrowmaster | english clients restrict you to only english letters in character name |
| 03:52.00 | darchon_ | Arrowmaster/ you can download korean wow http://upload.worldofwarcraft.co.kr/down/WoW-2.0.0-BurningCrusade-koKR-Installer-downloader.exe |
| 03:53.07 | Arrowmaster | cool |
| 03:53.11 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue what this says |
| 03:54.34 | darchon_ | I playing korean wow... ;) |
| 03:55.35 | CIA-22 | 03karlthepagan * r38518 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ (ReagentFu.lua ReagentFuLocals-enUS.lua): |
| 03:55.35 | CIA-22 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 03:55.35 | CIA-22 | - added item type/subtype scanning |
| 03:55.35 | CIA-22 | - added arrow & bullet support on rogue, warrior, hunter |
| 03:56.54 | Kody- | Not sure if anyone is interested in Tabula Rasa, but NCSoft invited us down there to check it out and I wrote up a pretty massive article about it to coincide with the opening of our TR portal: http://tr-en.curse-gaming.com/articles/details/2051/ |
| 03:58.12 | KarlThePagan | huh... sounds like... SWG that doesn't SUCK |
| 03:58.13 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 03:59.10 | Kody- | Yeah it's really fun |
| 04:00.52 | CIA-22 | 03darchon * r38519 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames: update koKR |
| 04:01.56 | *** join/#wowace Stan4 (n=Stan@p54996f57.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:04.17 | theoddone33 | there's this weird paradox in WoW |
| 04:04.27 | JoshBorke | why does the chicken cross the road? |
| 04:04.33 | theoddone33 | I want sporeggar rep, yet I have to kill them to drop myself a rep level so I can turn in a quest that will give me a ton of rep |
| 04:04.38 | JoshBorke | how do gnomes get on top of a flying mount? |
| 04:04.56 | Cryect | jump really high |
| 04:05.08 | JoshBorke | why doesn't a pheonix mount burn your ass? |
| 04:05.17 | JoshBorke | these are the real questions facing players |
| 04:05.28 | Cryect | why the fuck can we cast magic |
| 04:05.49 | JoshBorke | we wave our hands |
| 04:05.51 | Cryect | anyways its wow just better suspend all belief |
| 04:06.09 | Kyahx | Roartindon: you ping'd? |
| 04:06.11 | Cryect | I mean disbelief :-p |
| 04:06.25 | Cryect | then again I don't believe it so yeah |
| 04:06.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: ping |
| 04:07.30 | theoddone33 | wow some of the sporeggar npcs really pack a punch |
| 04:07.54 | Arrowmaster | what quest did you need to turnin that you couldnt at a higher rep? |
| 04:08.16 | theoddone33 | well there's the glowcap quest and I was like 75 rep over |
| 04:08.31 | Cryect | wellt urn on at war |
| 04:08.32 | theoddone33 | so by killing like 6 mushrooms I drop a rep level and get 10k exp and 750 rep for the quest |
| 04:08.33 | Cryect | and kill one! |
| 04:08.36 | theoddone33 | I am |
| 04:08.51 | theoddone33 | I need two more but they have a sucky respawn rate so I went for one of the named |
| 04:08.53 | Arrowmaster | should still beable to do the first glowcap turnin nomatter what rep level |
| 04:10.38 | theoddone33 | not a great idea |
| 04:10.39 | theoddone33 | nope |
| 04:10.39 | theoddone33 | can't turn it in after friendly |
| 04:10.39 | Arrowmaster | guessing you were after the repeatable one |
| 04:10.39 | theoddone33 | wait maybe that's a lie |
| 04:10.39 | Arrowmaster | theres a repeatable one and a onetime only that unlocks the repeatable |
| 04:10.40 | theoddone33 | hah yeah |
| 04:10.40 | Arrowmaster | but if you get higher than friendly without doing the first one you can never even see the repeatable one |
| 04:10.40 | theoddone33 | you can't pickup the quest after friendly according to wowhead |
| 04:10.40 | theoddone33 | but I forgot I'd picked it up beforE I hit friendly |
| 04:10.43 | theoddone33 | still I can do the other repeatable 750 rep one if I drop a level |
| 04:11.04 | Arrowmaster | warrior in my guild picked up the quest at like revered |
| 04:11.25 | theoddone33 | well maybe honored is easier than I think |
| 04:11.29 | Arrowmaster | 3 of us grinded to exalted in like a few days |
| 04:11.35 | Arrowmaster | so easy |
| 04:12.07 | theoddone33 | back when rogues could sploit underbog I got quite a bit of sporeggar rep |
| 04:12.29 | Arrowmaster | you still can sploit underbog, just do normal |
| 04:12.50 | theoddone33 | thought they moved some of the chests |
| 04:13.08 | Arrowmaster | they didnt move the habiscus |
| 04:13.13 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 04:13.21 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 04:13.26 | theoddone33 | no probably not |
| 04:13.29 | theoddone33 | that's a good plan |
| 04:13.42 | theoddone33 | gotta get to whatever rep level to be able to turn it in though |
| 04:14.13 | theoddone33 | friendly + level 63 |
| 04:14.14 | theoddone33 | nice |
| 04:14.45 | theoddone33 | I can get honored in ~3 hours that way |
| 04:15.08 | Arrowmaster | we were chain running the kill quest |
| 04:15.18 | Arrowmaster | 750 rep each time |
| 04:15.19 | theoddone33 | the naga one? |
| 04:15.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 04:15.48 | theoddone33 | don't recall seeing anything useful at exalted |
| 04:15.55 | theoddone33 | the shield is OP for pally aoe grinding though |
| 04:16.15 | Arrowmaster | me and the rogue did it just because we felt like it, warrior wanted the tabard |
| 04:17.16 | kbh | yay my guild just killed prince for the 1st time |
| 04:18.06 | Arrowmaster | darchon_: hey im not going to end up needing wow already installed for this tbc installer am i? |
| 04:18.26 | Thrae | kbh: Goddamn phallic-worshipping "My name is a weird-ass symbol" punk, glad he's dead |
| 04:19.15 | kbh | thanks |
| 04:19.31 | kbh | dropped a blade for me and i passed to a shadow priest :P |
| 04:19.50 | LePeR|Jaunia | can you report violation data using a macro? |
| 04:20.13 | LePeR|Jaunia | trying to do it by commandline but isn't working |
| 04:21.03 | Aenslaed | is there a /command to reset omen? |
| 04:21.12 | Aenslaed | pretty sure its not resetting between wipes |
| 04:23.10 | Roartindon | Kyahx: re-ping, sorry. was away.. Just an obvious error in Pitbull_Threat for you to fix :) it overwrites experience options |
| 04:23.30 | Roartindon | Line 192 |
| 04:23.30 | Kyahx | ha |
| 04:23.44 | Kyahx | Feel free to fix, I only half-knew what I was doing :P |
| 04:24.45 | Roartindon | Kyahx: I'll let you do it as I haven't got WoW running to test/make sure everything is working here atm |
| 04:25.06 | Kyahx | Im 20k xp from 70, preocupied! :P |
| 04:25.07 | Kyahx | hehe |
| 04:25.09 | Kyahx | soon, sure |
| 04:25.45 | theoddone33 | sos |
| 04:25.48 | theoddone33 | er, |
| 04:25.51 | theoddone33 | wow you're close |
| 04:25.59 | Kyahx | haha, quest turnins |
| 04:26.00 | Kyahx | ding :) |
| 04:28.14 | theoddone33 | 360k from 63! |
| 04:29.51 | *** join/#wowace grennon (n=jdawg@user-38lm5go.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:30.46 | CIA-22 | 03kyahx * r38520 10PitBull_Threat/Threat.lua: |
| 04:30.46 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Threat: |
| 04:30.46 | CIA-22 | - Line 192, Fixed options path |
| 04:31.20 | shieldb | Antiarc, apparently threat is throwing an error when you heal someone outside of your raid? |
| 04:31.26 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:31.41 | ckknight | hrm, Kyahx you made a Threat plugin :-P |
| 04:31.45 | ckknight | Kyahx: what's it do? |
| 04:31.56 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: pong |
| 04:31.57 | Kyahx | Just shows self threat vs max threat on your target |
| 04:32.08 | Kyahx | so how much more crap I can blowup before I die :) |
| 04:32.25 | Diao | er |
| 04:32.38 | Diao | is recount broken for anyone |
| 04:32.39 | Kyahx | I have no idea how to flesh it out thou, so it fits properly into the layouts, or has text on it, etc... |
| 04:33.09 | *** join/#wowace Wraanger (n=wraanger@89-178-160-36.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 04:34.20 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 04:35.30 | Diao | Cryect- http://ace.pastey.net/51209 after updating to latest recount |
| 04:40.46 | Cryect | Oh I know whats happening |
| 04:41.23 | ckknight | Kyahx: I was thinking of making something like the health bar, only a threat bar |
| 04:42.05 | Kyahx | your more than welcome to take what I made and flesh it out |
| 04:42.08 | Kyahx | its most of your code anyways :P |
| 04:42.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38521 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix typo |
| 04:42.43 | Killmore | Antiarc ? |
| 04:42.50 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r38522 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 04:42.50 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes a bug with loading a version of Recount with a different data version |
| 04:42.50 | CIA-22 | -Adds the starts of tracking events for deaths |
| 04:43.16 | ckknight | Kyahx: okay |
| 04:43.30 | ckknight | Kyahx: it should also be in PitBull proper :-P |
| 04:43.47 | Kyahx | I didn't want to break what I didn't understand |
| 04:43.48 | Kyahx | hehe |
| 04:44.11 | Killmore | Message: ...nterface\AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0.lua line 430:attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 04:44.11 | Killmore | Debug: Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:428 |
| 04:44.11 | Killmore | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.42 | Killmore | I receive this error on Leotheras |
| 04:45.22 | JoshBorke | nn all |
| 04:52.13 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: ping |
| 04:52.23 | ZealotOnAStick | err. |
| 04:52.24 | ckknight | pong |
| 04:52.26 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight or Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/51128 |
| 04:52.38 | ckknight | blah |
| 04:52.51 | ckknight | what's the line say for you? I changed code in my local version |
| 04:53.09 | ZealotOnAStick | may already be fixed, I'm not sure, but it wasn't an hour ago on Leotheras. |
| 04:53.26 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r38523 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Updates Parser-agnostic. |
| 04:54.04 | ZealotOnAStick | uhm, I posted 2 buggrabber reports in that pastey, along with when it occurred. |
| 04:54.22 | ZealotOnAStick | which line in which mod? |
| 04:58.13 | *** join/#wowace NimbleRabit (n=Nimble_R@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:59.07 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: Threat-1.0 |
| 04:59.13 | ckknight | I don't touch Omen |
| 05:01.23 | ZealotOnAStick | 430 on that revision is "globalThreatAdjustments[TailoredBinaryCheckSum[m]] = . . . " |
| 05:05.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38524 10Ace2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:05.14 | CIA-22 | Ace2 - bugfixes to calling :OnEnable and tracking whether first is provided or not. |
| 05:05.15 | CIA-22 | - added AceAddon:ManualEnable(addon) |
| 05:05.15 | CIA-22 | - added AceAddon:ManualDisable(addon) |
| 05:05.15 | CIA-22 | - don't use those unless you're s-m-r-t |
| 05:08.22 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: Pong? |
| 05:08.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: [2007/06/04 20:52:23-1359-x1]: OpenAll\OpenAll.lua:13: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 9) near 'elseif' |
| 05:08.42 | nymbia | ckknight: what do those do? |
| 05:08.59 | ckknight | they call :OnEnable and :OnEmbedEnable on all embeds |
| 05:09.21 | nymbia | ah cool |
| 05:09.55 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38525 10OpenAll/OpenAll.lua: OpenAll: Stupid syntax errors. |
| 05:10.44 | ckknight | nymbia: but it doesn't properly set AceDB's enabled/disabled state or anything |
| 05:10.46 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r38526 10LittleWigs/ (20 files in 4 dirs): LittleWigs: Remove cmd from zhTW; fixed trigger for Pathaleon. |
| 05:14.40 | nymbia | ckknight: right |
| 05:16.42 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (n=nuoHep@outer.test.e-larek.ru) |
| 05:17.31 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r38527 10eePanels/ (eePanels.toc localization.koKR.lua): |
| 05:17.31 | CIA-22 | eePanels: |
| 05:17.31 | CIA-22 | - Add locale koKR |
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| 05:27.32 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r38528 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes a forgotten then >_> |
| 05:27.37 | Diao | lol |
| 05:27.40 | Diao | i was about to report that :x |
| 05:29.53 | Cryect | I thought I did a reloadui on the code but apparently I hadn't :-p |
| 05:31.23 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r38529 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2-koKR.lua: Buffalo2: update koKR locals |
| 05:32.05 | ckknight | is cia slow? |
| 05:32.15 | ckknight | err |
| 05:32.23 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 05:32.23 | Cryect | wasn't a moment ago |
| 05:32.25 | Diao | lol |
| 05:32.38 | ckknight | odd |
| 05:32.54 | ckknight | maybe my commit didn't go through properly |
| 05:33.31 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 05:33.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38530 10Threat-1.0/ (22 files in 8 dirs): Threat-1.0 - remove AceModuleCore-2.0 as a dependency, use a hacked up mini-version instead. This will be slimmed down to bare-bones in time. |
| 05:34.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38531 10Assessment/Modules/ (UserInterface.lua UserInterfaceOptions.lua): |
| 05:34.08 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 05:34.08 | CIA-22 | - Bars now have their own frame. Hiding a row just hides the frame, rather than the bar, and all of the fontstrings. |
| 05:34.08 | CIA-22 | - Added mouseover highlight, in preparation for some click stuff. |
| 05:37.11 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r38532 10WhoDrop/ (3 files): WhoDrop - add data |
| 05:37.17 | ckknight | my current goal is to take AceAddon out of Threat-1.0, as it's really not "supposed" to be in addons |
| 05:37.22 | ckknight | err, libraries, I mean |
| 05:37.35 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=andy@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 05:40.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38533 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make the ThreatLib instance not use AceAddon-2.0 |
| 05:43.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38534 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - remove an unimportant line. |
| 05:50.37 | xt | ckknight: are you in a far progressed guild? :D |
| 05:50.46 | ckknight | no |
| 05:50.52 | ckknight | well, actually I dunno |
| 05:50.55 | ckknight | I think they're doing Kara |
| 05:50.58 | ckknight | I'm lvl 34 |
| 05:52.05 | kbh | addons really are your game eh? |
| 05:52.12 | ckknight | yep |
| 05:52.31 | ckknight | you may be off slaying Illidan or whoever |
| 05:52.37 | ckknight | but I get to bitchslap Kenco |
| 05:52.55 | ckknight | is that really less gratifying? |
| 05:53.59 | nymbia | haha |
| 05:54.06 | nymbia | so true |
| 05:55.37 | Antiarc | WORLD FIRST: CKKNIGHT DOWNS KENCO |
| 05:55.39 | grennon | my guild cant beat magtheridon, sad but true |
| 05:55.45 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc |
| 05:55.47 | Antiarc | Also, good stuff with the deps lightening, ckknight |
| 05:55.56 | grennon | and we beat nef after his nerf |
| 05:56.07 | grennon | at some point, we stopped giving a rats ass |
| 05:56.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | mmm, Kenco |
| 05:56.11 | Antiarc | WORLD FIRST: PEER DOWNS CKKNIGHT |
| 05:56.25 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 05:56.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 05:56.34 | Kirkburn|sleep | (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenco) |
| 05:56.52 | ckknight | blah |
| 05:56.53 | Kirkburn|sleep | I can only assume you weren't talking about that ... |
| 05:56.54 | ckknight | killing AceAddon now, Antiarc |
| 05:57.01 | Antiarc | Wewts. |
| 05:57.19 | Antiarc | I have an abortion of Omen to commit, but I need to test it first, and my time is consumed with non-WoW projects tonight, sadly. |
| 05:57.21 | Adirelle | vhaarr, [Ammo]: what about getting one or two modules out of Violation ? I'm thinking specifically of Threat and Banzai, which adds dependancy to the core |
| 05:58.09 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38535 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/ (Morogrim.lua Vashj.lua): Threat-1.0: Cleanup Morogrim module, add preliminary Vashj module to clear threat on Elite / Strider death |
| 05:58.37 | ckknight | Kirkburn|sleep: Kenco Threat Meter |
| 05:58.47 | grennon | wow |
| 05:59.18 | grennon | i copied a file from one hard disk to another in vista, instead of copying it directly, it made a copy in a temp dir, then copied that file to the location |
| 05:59.29 | grennon | im sooooo going back to ubuntu |
| 05:59.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | ckknight, that's so much more boring :( |
| 05:59.45 | kbh | vista dosent trust your hardware! |
| 05:59.49 | ckknight | </3 KTM |
| 05:59.56 | Kirkburn|sleep | grennon, er, what? |
| 06:00.14 | Kirkburn|sleep | Have you got some seriously weird security settings? |
| 06:00.44 | grennon | it was a 700MB file, i think it does it often but blinks too fast to notice |
| 06:01.23 | Adirelle | ~seen vhaar |
| 06:02.18 | purl | i haven't seen 'vhaar', Adirelle |
| 06:02.18 | Adirelle | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 06:02.49 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 149 messages. Is idling for 7h 20m 39s, last said: 'what morons'. |
| 06:02.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38536 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files): Threat-1.0 - make the toplevel modules not use AceAddon-2.0 |
| 06:02.49 | Kirkburn|sleep | ~seen yourmom |
| 06:03.06 | purl | yourmom <n=185c59f2@bz.bzflag.bz> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 156d 1h 5m 16s ago, saying: 'hello?'. |
| 06:03.09 | ckknight | ~depants Adirelle |
| 06:03.18 | purl | ACTION grabs and pulls down Adirelle's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties. |
| 06:03.18 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 06:03.20 | Adirelle | mom ! |
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| 06:06.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "its"? |
| 06:08.32 | ckknight | its? |
| 06:09.18 | ckknight | lol. |
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| 06:10.13 | todd` | so I only have ace addons loaded, and I'm convinced at least one of them is causing wow to crash as soon as I log in |
| 06:10.16 | todd` | =( |
| 06:10.21 | todd` | but I can't seem to narrow it down |
| 06:10.29 | grennon | heheh |
| 06:10.32 | grennon | pitbull |
| 06:10.41 | grennon | you getting a 132 when you login? |
| 06:11.22 | todd` | yes I am |
| 06:11.41 | todd` | I used to only get a crash 3/5 times or so, but now it's every single time |
| 06:11.45 | grennon | i forgot what the deal with that was, but i had the same issue |
| 06:13.07 | grennon | delete and install it again |
| 06:13.56 | todd` | tried that, I started absolutely fresh yesterday with addons |
| 06:16.08 | todd` | after I updated my addons today, it's been a crash every single time |
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| 06:19.20 | Antiarc | todd`: Check FrameXML.log |
| 06:19.26 | Antiarc | See what the last one it was trying to load was |
| 06:19.48 | shieldb | Antiarc, you catch the issue with healing out of party? |
| 06:19.53 | shieldb | or out of raid |
| 06:20.13 | todd` | afraid I don't have the file anymore, I deleted everything except Cache\ and Data\ in my wow directory |
| 06:20.15 | shieldb | one of our pallies was complaining he got an error whenever he healed someone outside of our raid |
| 06:20.42 | Antiarc | shieldb: I'm aware of it, but I haven't addressed it yet |
| 06:20.47 | Antiarc | todd`: It's in Logs\ |
| 06:20.49 | shieldb | good enough for me ;) |
| 06:20.56 | Antiarc | Oh, right |
| 06:20.57 | Antiarc | Well, re-crash |
| 06:21.00 | Antiarc | And then check logs |
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| 06:23.03 | Antiarc | It should be noted that no ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter. -- Nathaniel Borenstein |
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| 06:23.22 | Antiarc | ^--- gtalk status message |
| 06:23.42 | ckknight_ | blah. |
| 06:23.44 | ckknight_ | router fucked up |
| 06:23.48 | ckknight_ | too much downloading I suppose |
| 06:23.56 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38537 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: |
| 06:23.57 | CIA-22 | .Babble-Herbs-2.2: |
| 06:23.57 | CIA-22 | - Add Netherdust Bush |
| 06:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | download less porn :P |
| 06:24.12 | Antiarc | Peer is pissed. |
| 06:24.21 | ckknight_ | NightHawkTheSane: nah, music |
| 06:24.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight_: download less porno music. :P |
| 06:24.42 | ckknight_ | lol. |
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| 06:25.05 | Antiarc | I think the last music I downloaded was the OCRemix torrent |
| 06:25.10 | Antiarc | I usually just use net radio |
| 06:25.12 | Antiarc | Shoutcast FTW |
| 06:25.29 | Antiarc | And radioblogclub |
| 06:26.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't really like streaming radio, they either aren't varied enough, or too varied. |
| 06:26.17 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: radioblogclub fixes that, pretty much |
| 06:26.29 | Antiarc | It's like a bunch of playlists pre-compiled that you get to jump around in |
| 06:26.29 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i just need to figure out how to stream my own music library :) |
| 06:26.33 | Antiarc | Probably highly illegal |
| 06:27.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38538 10Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Threat-1.0 - remove AceAddon-2.0 usage. Currently has a mini OnEnable/OnDisable system, but it works. |
| 06:27.37 | Antiarc | http://radioblogclub.com/open/128156/feel_good/%20Electric%20Six-%20%20Gay%20Bar.rbs |
| 06:27.47 | Antiarc | I have no idea why but I love that song. |
| 06:27.54 | NightHawkTheSane | can i make some suggestions? |
| 06:27.55 | Antiarc | If I ever do karaoke, it will be to that. |
| 06:28.10 | ckknight | lol, good song, Antiarc |
| 06:28.17 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: do |
| 06:28.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: er, that was sort of a obscure attempt at calling Antiarc gay :P |
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| 06:29.10 | ckknight | oh. |
| 06:29.34 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I know how to dance to Gay Pimp - Soccer Practice, fully choreographed. |
| 06:29.35 | ckknight | beat that |
| 06:29.38 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38539 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua: |
| 06:29.38 | CIA-22 | .Babble-Ore-2.2: |
| 06:29.38 | CIA-22 | - Delete a couple unused local tables. |
| 06:29.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd rather not. >.> |
| 06:30.28 | ckknight | Antiarc: wrt UnitAffectingCombat("unit") error, I know the issue |
| 06:30.40 | ckknight | at that point, unitID can be false |
| 06:30.42 | ckknight | if it's unknown |
| 06:30.49 | ckknight | which is what's happening |
| 06:30.57 | xt | is soulshatter fixed in threat now ? |
| 06:31.02 | Antiarc | Yeah, which it is if you're out of the party (which I wasn't checking), but parser-3.0 isn't picking it up for party members |
| 06:31.06 | Antiarc | xt: Not unless someone else has done ot |
| 06:31.09 | xt | k |
| 06:31.18 | xt | I tried looking at it, but failed |
| 06:31.23 | xt | I saw there was code in warlock module |
| 06:31.36 | xt | just som setmodifier(0.5) |
| 06:32.43 | ckknight | Antiarc: that directed at me? |
| 06:32.51 | Antiarc | ckknight: Ja |
| 06:33.02 | ckknight | Parser-3.0 should pick up for party members |
| 06:33.08 | ckknight | I don't see how it isn't |
| 06:33.09 | Antiarc | It should, but it didn't seem to |
| 06:33.13 | Antiarc | I don't either |
| 06:33.18 | Antiarc | I had a party member cast binding heal on me in combat and it procced the message |
| 06:33.24 | xt | this ace community is just great, so much happening every day, i love it |
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| 06:33.27 | ckknight | any way to test? |
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| 06:33.34 | Antiarc | The only thing I can think is that it's a problem with the fact that it's two combat messages |
| 06:33.37 | ckknight | Antiarc: also, was the guy's name available? |
| 06:33.39 | Antiarc | I don't have the means myself, no |
| 06:33.48 | Antiarc | Yeah, one sec, I have a screen of the combat log |
| 06:33.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: one of my guildmates asked me a question I didn't know how to answer other than "I don't think you do." |
| 06:33.55 | ckknight | if the name was available and the ID not, then that's an issue |
| 06:34.11 | ZealotOnAStick | She wanted to know how to set up Omen to just show her own threat, as a percentage of current max. |
| 06:34.35 | durcyn | assessment can show diff from top and diff from aggro pull |
| 06:35.10 | ckknight | durcyn: happens on an aggro steal, e.g. Growl, Taunt |
| 06:35.13 | xt | preferrebly you would be able to hide omen, and just have short info on fubar |
| 06:35.20 | xt | just like fubar-ktm works |
| 06:35.25 | Antiarc | ckknight: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/bindingheal.jpg |
| 06:35.29 | Antiarc | That's the priest's combat log |
| 06:35.30 | xt | and also make it send configable sct event |
| 06:35.48 | shieldb | hmm, what happened to the TPS showing up on omen? |
| 06:35.55 | shieldb | I've got a column for it, but it's always empty |
| 06:35.59 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:36.02 | ckknight | that should work. |
| 06:36.06 | Antiarc | shieldb: I broke it this morning |
| 06:36.09 | shieldb | ahh, ok |
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| 06:36.12 | Antiarc | ckknight: Yeah, I couldn't find any immediate errors :/ |
| 06:36.14 | shieldb | I remember it was working last night |
| 06:36.23 | Antiarc | ckknight: I was printing the parser info on my end and it all looked alright |
| 06:36.33 | Antiarc | So I can only imagine it's only present when you're the source of the heal |
| 06:36.39 | ckknight | either way, unitID should be checked for false |
| 06:36.43 | Antiarc | Agreed |
| 06:36.53 | ckknight | cause you can heal non-party guys |
| 06:37.07 | ZealotOnAStick | also, anyone in here who can help me with a brainfart issue. I'm trying to execute a sql UPDATE on certain fields in a table, for every member of that table. |
| 06:37.20 | ZealotOnAStick | but I can't remember what to do to get it to affect every row of the table. |
| 06:37.34 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Just don't give it a WHERE? |
| 06:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 06:37.52 | Antiarc | UPDATE table SET field = 'value'; |
| 06:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | without a where clause, it should attempt to apply it to every row. |
| 06:38.07 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38540 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: - Herbs : koKR update |
| 06:38.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh, that simple? |
| 06:38.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. :) |
| 06:38.32 | ZealotOnAStick | and here I've been driving myself nuts trying to remember how to specify a range of values. |
| 06:39.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I've done all this before, but it's been a damn long time. |
| 06:39.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38541 10PitBull_Threat/Threat.lua: PitBull_Threat - fix typo |
| 06:40.17 | Antiarc | If you want to you can say WHERE true |
| 06:40.20 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: sometimes the DB won't let you not give a WHERE, so you may need to do WHERE 1 |
| 06:40.21 | Antiarc | Or I guess WHERE 1 |
| 06:40.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:40.46 | ZealotOnAStick | no, it let me do it just not giving it a WHERE. |
| 06:40.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you're most likely using mysql, which doesn't care |
| 06:41.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Still trying to remember how to specify a range to act upon. |
| 06:41.17 | Antiarc | WHERE id IN (1,2,3,4,5) |
| 06:41.31 | ZealotOnAStick | and the mySQL 4 documentation leaves something to be desired. |
| 06:41.42 | ZealotOnAStick | I can't do (1-39) or so forth? |
| 06:41.49 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 06:41.58 | Antiarc | WHERE id >= 1 AND id <= 38 |
| 06:41.59 | Antiarc | Err |
| 06:42.00 | Antiarc | 39 |
| 06:42.02 | Antiarc | That'll work |
| 06:42.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. Seems irritatingly complex. |
| 06:42.32 | Antiarc | I guess if you're starting with 1 you could say WHERE ID <= 39 |
| 06:42.36 | ZealotOnAStick | thank you, though. |
| 06:43.22 | ZealotOnAStick | If you're wondering, I'm trying to dump out all raid/testing info on our EQDKP install while still keeping the other member data in so I don't have to just re-enter it bloody all. |
| 06:44.12 | Antiarc | phpMyAdmin? |
| 06:44.21 | Diao | table starts at 0 though? |
| 06:44.31 | Antiarc | Table IDs should start at 1, generally |
| 06:44.33 | ckknight | no |
| 06:44.34 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, and no, first memberid is 1. |
| 06:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | auto-increment fields start at 1 |
| 06:44.38 | ckknight | yea, it's 1 and on |
| 06:44.47 | NightHawkTheSane | you can technically start at 0 if you want to manually increment |
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| 06:45.22 | Elkano | well, but #tale starts counting at 1 |
| 06:45.49 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38542 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (Artwork/HerbNetherdust.tga addon.lua): |
| 06:45.49 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Herbalism: |
| 06:45.49 | CIA-22 | - Add Netherdust Bush (uses the Grave Moss icon for now, close enough). |
| 06:45.49 | CIA-22 | - Fix some drunk-ass tabination. |
| 06:46.55 | Elkano | nymbia, isn't it having an icon of it's own? |
| 06:47.41 | NightHawkTheSane | it does, it uses same icon as soul dust, i believe |
| 06:48.15 | nymbia | Elkano: it's just a different color from grave moss |
| 06:49.06 | Elkano | does cart_herb bring icons for all the herbs? why not simply use the game icons? |
| 06:49.40 | ckknight | cause they look bad |
| 06:49.48 | ckknight | black borders and such |
| 06:49.50 | theoddone33 | what's up with gold spammers inviting me to groups? |
| 06:49.57 | theoddone33 | happened twice in the last two nights |
| 06:50.37 | Lyfe | hey, they have to attempt doing their spamming somehow... :) |
| 06:51.03 | Elkano | ck: hm, and if you strip borders by 'cutting'? |
| 06:51.13 | ckknight | can't ingame |
| 06:51.20 | ckknight | it's backgrounds and borders |
| 06:51.22 | ckknight | not just borders |
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| 07:02.50 | Antiarc | You can cut textures ingame |
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| 07:02.54 | Antiarc | SetTexCoord |
| 07:03.17 | omega | but you can't clip a pixel here and a pixel there, which you would need to make a herb icon transparent and usable on a map |
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| 07:05.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: we played with Leotheras all night tonight. I don't know if the threat clears on phase changes and whirlwinds aren't working right, or if it's just too damn mucked up from KTM data. |
| 07:05.28 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Probably not working right |
| 07:07.09 | Laricwork_ | Antiarc I played around a bit with violation yesterday.. On global threat. The only person I didnt get up was the one other having threat installed. It showed neither the users ktm data nor its threat-1.0 data. |
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| 07:07.59 | Antiarc | Laricwork_: If they had a version older than yesterday mid-afternoon, it wouldn't work |
| 07:08.04 | Antiarc | Backwards incompatible change was made |
| 07:08.53 | Antiarc | ckknight: Getting some odd errors. [2007/06/05 00:07:40-6746-x1]: AceOO-2.0-25921 (Ace2):723: AceModuleCore-2.0: AceModuleCore-2.0 requires AceAddon-2.0 - AceModuleCore-2.0-38524:516: in main chunk |
| 07:09.03 | xt | Antiarc: we're going leo tomorrow, anything you'd like from the fight? Combatlog or anything? |
| 07:09.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:09.06 | ckknight | it does. |
| 07:09.34 | Antiarc | xt: Just update before the fight and hope it's working, I guess :D |
| 07:09.42 | xt | ok :) |
| 07:10.00 | xt | no way i can pull aggro in demon phase anyway :D |
| 07:10.58 | xt | it doesnt currently handle knobacks, or what? |
| 07:11.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38543 10PitBull_Threat/Threat.lua: PitBull_Threat - haxoring to actually work. |
| 07:11.13 | xt | Void Reaver knocback is 25%, most other knock backs are 50% |
| 07:11.15 | Antiarc | It should handle knockbacks, yes |
| 07:11.20 | Jaxon | gtalk uses Jabber, doesn't it? |
| 07:11.20 | Antiarc | Except special ones like VR |
| 07:11.37 | xt | k, so a NPCmodule is needed? |
| 07:11.40 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 07:11.51 | xt | in KTM you could set the knockback multiplayer manually |
| 07:11.53 | Antiarc | Trivial to implement, but I'm working out other errors right now |
| 07:12.17 | xt | yeah, just asking out of curiosity |
| 07:14.57 | xt | Btw, Soulshatter "Reduces threat by 50% for all enemies within 50 yards.", I'm guessing threat can not know how fare away mobs are ? |
| 07:15.32 | shieldb | xt, soulshatter shows up in the combat log for everything that it tags |
| 07:15.42 | xt | ah. |
| 07:15.59 | shieldb | so you'll get something like "you soulshatter scarymob" "scarymob resists your soulshatter" etc |
| 07:16.00 | xt | Never saw that since I use eavesdrop :) |
| 07:16.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38544 10PitBull_Threat/: PitBull_Threat - removing from trunk (will be added to PitBull proper) |
| 07:16.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38545 10PitBull/ (6 files in 2 dirs): PitBull_Threat - adding to PitBull proper. |
| 07:16.44 | Fisker- | OH U ckknight |
| 07:17.00 | ckknight | OH ME |
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| 07:18.35 | shieldb | antiarc, actually thinking about soulshatter -- if there are two or more of XX mobs around with the same name, and a warlock uses soulshatter, will it improperly reduce his theat by 50% for each instance that it reports in the combat log? |
| 07:19.40 | Antiarc | shieldb: Yes, it will. It's on my to-fix list |
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| 07:19.46 | shieldb | ./nod |
| 07:19.46 | Antiarc | I'm going to just use a ScheduleEvent to fix it |
| 07:19.54 | Antiarc | Shouldn't be a problem |
| 07:20.14 | shieldb | yeah, you're going to be somewhat off in multimob + same name situations anyways |
| 07:20.20 | Antiarc | I must be retarded or something because I can't figure out why AceModuleCore is complaining about AceAddon missing |
| 07:20.29 | Antiarc | AceAddon is before AMC in my toc |
| 07:21.25 | xt | Why does Vanish/Invis use self:ReduceAllThreat(0) |
| 07:21.30 | xt | and shatter |
| 07:21.30 | xt | self:MultiplyThreat(0.5) |
| 07:21.31 | xt | self:MultiplyTargetThreat(0.5) |
| 07:21.41 | shieldb | vanish reduces all threat to 0 |
| 07:21.42 | Antiarc | xt: Cruft, I suspect. |
| 07:21.52 | Antiarc | Oh, xt: |
| 07:21.55 | xt | -- Reduces all threat by a multiplier. Vanish, Soulshatter, Invisibility, some trinkets use this. |
| 07:21.56 | shieldb | ahh, nm - you were asking a syntax question? |
| 07:21.59 | xt | that's the comment |
| 07:22.00 | Antiarc | It's because soulshatter can resist on individual mobs |
| 07:22.15 | xt | so can vanish/feign death/invis ? |
| 07:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | vanish cannot be resisted |
| 07:22.21 | Antiarc | invis and vanish can't be resisted |
| 07:22.26 | xt | hax |
| 07:22.27 | Antiarc | FD's implementation needs work |
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| 07:22.39 | xt | Vanish used to be resistable? or ? |
| 07:22.42 | kebinusan | I keep hoping they make soulshatter not able to be resisted :-) |
| 07:22.43 | NightHawkTheSane | nope, never |
| 07:22.48 | Antiarc | No, it just usually breaks immediately after |
| 07:22.53 | xt | hehe |
| 07:22.56 | xt | kebinusan: yes |
| 07:22.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, stealth breaks, yeah |
| 07:23.05 | Adirelle | damn it, pigdin is really crappy IRC client |
| 07:23.14 | ckknight | Antiarc: AceModuleCore requires AceAddon in OnInstanceInit anyway, so it could show up afterwards. |
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| 07:23.29 | Antiarc | http://ace.pastey.net/51335 |
| 07:23.38 | Antiarc | Someone tell me why including line 10 causes that error |
| 07:23.53 | Antiarc | Because I'm apparently too stupid to figure it out myself |
| 07:24.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38546 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0 - change AceAddon check |
| 07:24.28 | Fisker- | [2007/06/05 09:22:42-1229-x1]: PitBull_Threat\Threat.lua:7: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 07:24.29 | Fisker- | btw |
| 07:24.43 | Ghost9 | Hey all... Anyone have ag_uf pull a vanishing act on them? And know how to fix it? Thanks |
| 07:25.11 | kbh | wtb fish bag |
| 07:25.14 | Antiarc | Heh, whatever you just did fixed it, ckknight |
| 07:25.30 | ckknight | Fisker-: on it |
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| 07:26.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38547 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc Threat/Threat.lua): |
| 07:26.18 | CIA-22 | PitBull - add Threat.lua to toc. |
| 07:26.18 | CIA-22 | - fix VERSION check in Threat.lua |
| 07:27.30 | Ghost9 | Hey all... Anyone have ag_uf pull a vanishing act on them and know how to fix it? |
| 07:27.35 | Fisker- | who made recount btw? |
| 07:27.43 | Antiarc | I use BT3, Ghost9. Sorry. |
| 07:28.54 | xt | Fisker-: cryect I think |
| 07:29.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: Cryect |
| 07:30.13 | Fisker- | alright |
| 07:30.16 | Fisker- | oh u Cryect |
| 07:31.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38548 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add HasNoThreat and HasNoTargetThreat |
| 07:36.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38549 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - typo |
| 07:36.38 | Adirelle | just for test, can someone tell my name ? :p |
| 07:36.59 | xt | Adirelle: |
| 07:37.07 | yacoob | if it isn't Adirelle, then no, we can't. |
| 07:37.17 | ckknight | ~depants Adirelle |
| 07:37.29 | purl | ACTION grabs and pulls down Adirelle's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties. |
| 07:39.40 | xt | In ThreatLibNPCModuleCore:OnInitialize(), can I change "self.generic_attacks[GenericAttackTranslations["Knock Away"]] = function(mob, target) ModifyThreat(mob, target, 0.5, 0) end" to use 0.75 with a /script command in game? |
| 07:41.26 | Silviu- | http://ace.pastey.net/51355 same error at lines 214, 224, 191 @ ckknight ;) |
| 07:41.34 | Silviu- | When u try to mess with options |
| 07:42.38 | Silviu- | And ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/51359 |
| 07:43.16 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r38550 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Added zhTW translation for Magtheridon (incomplete) |
| 07:44.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38551 10PitBull/ (Layouts/ABF.lua Threat/Threat.lua): |
| 07:44.19 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Threat - fix some typos |
| 07:44.19 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Layouts/ABF - add threatBar and threatText support. |
| 07:44.28 | ckknight | Silviu-: please test ^---- |
| 07:44.44 | ckknight | xt: no |
| 07:45.08 | xt | I wish I knew more lua then, so I could make the NPCmodule, heh |
| 07:45.21 | ckknight | it's really not hard |
| 07:45.27 | xt | probably just need to override the function |
| 07:45.30 | ckknight | just copy some other one |
| 07:45.34 | ckknight | and fill in the blanks |
| 07:47.29 | Stephmw | mornin' |
| 07:48.10 | Bver | hows the threat meter coming along |
| 07:48.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38552 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 07:48.13 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - renamed Threat => EnemyThreat. |
| 07:48.13 | CIA-22 | - renamed TargetThreat => Threat |
| 07:48.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38553 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - update for DogTag-1.0 |
| 07:48.58 | ckknight | Bver: well |
| 07:49.08 | Bver | cant wait, ktm is bloated! |
| 07:49.32 | Bver | i hear you're workingona damage meter as well? |
| 07:49.42 | ckknight | Violation/Assessment |
| 07:49.46 | ckknight | take your pick |
| 07:49.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Recount as well |
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| 07:52.01 | xt | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/51368, this is the furthest I can go with my knowledge, lol |
| 07:52.35 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 07:52.43 | doktoreas | where can i report bug from omen? |
| 07:52.58 | ckknight | xt: send that to Antiarc |
| 07:53.54 | xt | k |
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| 07:54.25 | Antiarc | xt: Thanks |
| 07:54.29 | Antiarc | Needs a few changes, but it's close |
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| 07:54.50 | xt | lua reminds me of python |
| 07:54.52 | xt | so that's good |
| 07:55.36 | ckknight | their backends are more similar than you'd think |
| 07:55.43 | Jaxon | With the changes to addon memory use and garbage collections with 2.1, are embedded libraries still using up large amounts of memories until the first GC? |
| 07:55.43 | doktoreas | Antiarc: ping |
| 07:55.47 | evl | scew em! |
| 07:55.52 | evl | Give me Ruby or give me death |
| 07:55.55 | Silviu- | ckknight, if i disable the threat module numbers are still there :( |
| 07:56.12 | ckknight | Silviu-: hrm |
| 07:56.26 | Antiarc | doktoreas: Pong |
| 07:56.30 | doktoreas | hi |
| 07:56.40 | doktoreas | you are the dev of omen right? |
| 07:56.50 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 07:56.56 | doktoreas | nice, great mod |
| 07:57.02 | doktoreas | where can i report bug? |
| 07:57.12 | doktoreas | i tested it during yesterda's karazhan |
| 07:57.14 | ckknight | Silviu-: bar/numbers only show in combat. You can't disable modules in combat. Therefore, antipants on you, good sir |
| 07:57.23 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6480.0 is the best place right now |
| 07:57.45 | Silviu- | ckknight i disabled module out of combat |
| 07:57.49 | doktoreas | k thx |
| 07:57.50 | Silviu- | Hmm :) |
| 07:57.55 | Silviu- | Let me try a reload |
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| 07:59.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38554 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bucket the threat and reputation events. |
| 07:59.40 | Silviu- | ckknight module is disabled, menus and threat numbers still apear, do i do something wrong ? |
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| 08:00.04 | ckknight | Silviu-: Threat Text ≠Threat Bar. |
| 08:00.26 | cryogen | mjorning |
| 08:00.37 | Silviu- | Ahm ok |
| 08:01.01 | Silviu- | Then i must go in all units and "Hidden" |
| 08:01.30 | ckknight | Silviu-: does it show on-screen? |
| 08:02.00 | xt | will the threat support for alof render hp bars as threat bars instead ? |
| 08:02.09 | Fisker- | does threat sync with ktm or does it only recieve ktm data? |
| 08:02.10 | xt | that'd be truly amazing |
| 08:02.15 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r38555 10ArkInventory/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:02.15 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:02.15 | CIA-22 | - v1.41 |
| 08:02.16 | xt | Fisker-: only recieve |
| 08:02.20 | Fisker- | alright |
| 08:02.27 | Silviu- | ckknight what u mean by on-screen ? |
| 08:03.08 | doktoreas | o same memory, is better to not use embed lib? |
| 08:03.42 | Cyrez | ckknight: [2007/06/05 01:02:15-951-x27]: DogTag-1.0-38554 (DogTag-1.0):2997: bad argument #1 to 'string_gsub' (string expected, got nil) |
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| 08:03.55 | CIA-22 | 03bom * r38556 10Omen/localization_deDE.lua: Omen: extend german localization |
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| 08:04.14 | Cyrez | Had Party Config mode on, told the profile to reset, then, BOOM. |
| 08:04.28 | Cyrez | Spits out that nonstop. |
| 08:05.49 | ckknight | odd |
| 08:06.30 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r38557 10Violation/Healing/Overhealing.lua: |
| 08:06.30 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 08:06.30 | CIA-22 | - Overhealing.lua |
| 08:06.30 | CIA-22 | - add locale koKR |
| 08:06.55 | ckknight | Cyrez: debugstack? |
| 08:07.18 | todd` | simpleminimap vs squeenix.. what's the verdict? either one a lot more efficient than the other? |
| 08:07.20 | Cyrez | Eh? |
| 08:07.37 | Cyrez | I had it in BugSack and that's all it said, just the one line. |
| 08:07.39 | todd` | the only reason I use simpleminimap atm is because it shows who pinged the minimap, and last time I tried squeenix it couldn't do that, can it now? |
| 08:07.44 | Cyrez | Nothing below it. |
| 08:07.52 | Silviu- | todd` no |
| 08:08.43 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r38558 10Violation/Threat/ (TargetThreat.lua Threat.lua): |
| 08:08.43 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 08:08.43 | CIA-22 | - Threat |
| 08:08.43 | CIA-22 | - add locale koKR |
| 08:08.58 | ckknight | Cyrez: lame |
| 08:10.16 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6547.0 |
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| 08:10.28 | Tekkub | enjoy it while you can, I'm sure it won't be there in the morn :) |
| 08:10.35 | Cyrez | ckknight: It's easy to reproduce, tho. Just turn on any one of the configuration modes then fire off the profile reset. |
| 08:10.47 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 08:10.55 | SunTiger | can i delete it ? |
| 08:11.36 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:11.45 | ckknight | maybe let it soak for a little while longer |
| 08:12.17 | SunTiger | maybe we can get him to respond with some angry flaming post and ban him |
| 08:12.35 | NightHawkTheSane | just today? :P |
| 08:12.36 | todd` | parser-3.0 and parserlib.. same purpose? |
| 08:12.45 | Tekkub | that's what I would do, he opened the flood gates with his own cursing |
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| 08:12.58 | SunTiger | NightHawkTheSane, what was the last bastard thing you saw me do ? |
| 08:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, i wholeheartedly endorce baiting him into being an idiot. |
| 08:13.11 | Tekkub | we don't take kindly to fucksmudges round these parts |
| 08:13.13 | Silviu- | todd` yep :) |
| 08:13.15 | NightHawkTheSane | SunTiger: i don |
| 08:13.21 | SunTiger | hmmm |
| 08:13.25 | NightHawkTheSane | SunTiger: i don't keep tabs on people, but i assume everyone is a bastard :) |
| 08:13.26 | SunTiger | someone sick kergoth on him. |
| 08:13.30 | todd` | and different mods require a different one =( |
| 08:15.55 | Silviu- | todd` true, some authors don`t want to switch to 3.0 yet |
| 08:15.55 | Tekkub | as far as I know, kergoth berrates people without resorting to swearing,he's just a name caller |
| 08:15.56 | SunTiger | parserlib is a if i remember correctly the old base that parser-3.0 eventually grew out off. |
| 08:15.56 | todd` | ah |
| 08:15.56 | NightHawkTheSane | actually i think ckknight coded parser 3.0 from scratach >.> |
| 08:15.56 | todd` | I just installed violation and it needs parserlib =( |
| 08:15.56 | Tekkub | actually, this is what I would do.... let it sit for a day |
| 08:15.56 | Tekkub | everyone take a swing |
| 08:15.56 | Tekkub | then lock and sticky it :) |
| 08:15.56 | SunTiger | its hard to keep track of every damn lib out there. |
| 08:15.56 | ZealotOnAStick | someone direct indy to him. |
| 08:15.56 | SunTiger | hmmm |
| 08:15.56 | cryogen | i read on the forum thread that violation started off using parser-3.0 and switched to parserlib |
| 08:15.56 | SunTiger | i still like the way you think tekkub. |
| 08:15.56 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane's right on this one |
| 08:15.57 | cryogen | because of some differences, or something |
| 08:15.57 | Tekkub | indie has been pinged |
| 08:15.57 | ZealotOnAStick | heh. |
| 08:15.57 | SunTiger | yay angry dutch people! |
| 08:15.57 | ckknight | Tekkub: pung |
| 08:15.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Tekkub: have I mentioned your ruling of late? |
| 08:15.57 | NightHawkTheSane | cryogen: yeah, for a while parser-3.0 didn't parse a few things that parserlib did, but I think those have been corrected. |
| 08:15.57 | Tekkub | my ruler? |
| 08:16.26 | ckknight | cryogen: it was for two reasons. 1) at the time, Parser-3.0 wasn't as complete. This has been resolved. 2) other addons use Parser-1.1, and having two parsers can be inefficient. I don't like this argument because (a) Parser-3.0 has a Parser-1.1 compat layer now. (b) the very argument stifles innovation |
| 08:17.06 | cryogen | and now they wont switch back, or? |
| 08:17.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Tekkub: as in, "you rule," in a roundabout matter of expression. |
| 08:17.29 | Tekkub | what rule? |
| 08:17.36 | SunTiger | :P |
| 08:17.39 | Tekkub | the "no fuckswudges" one? |
| 08:17.43 | ckknight | cryogen: I think vhaarr's still clinging to (b) |
| 08:17.45 | Tekkub | s/w/m/ |
| 08:17.50 | ckknight | it's his decision, in the end |
| 08:17.56 | Tekkub | I made purl curse! |
| 08:18.07 | SunTiger | oh god |
| 08:18.14 | ckknight | cryogen: I mean (2) |
| 08:18.15 | SunTiger | tekkub currupts all. |
| 08:18.17 | cryogen | fair enough |
| 08:18.42 | Tekkub | purl sucks |
| 08:18.49 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 08:18.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Tekkub: 3, ZOAS: 0 |
| 08:18.54 | Tekkub | s/sucks/suck big floppy donkey dick/ |
| 08:19.03 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: did that thing work by the way? i never did test it |
| 08:19.06 | Tekkub | bah, typo'd the fix |
| 08:19.12 | Tekkub | okey I've had my fun |
| 08:19.17 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: which thing? |
| 08:19.24 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: WHAT |
| 08:19.28 | Tekkub | I expect to see a page of abuse in the morn.. preferrably stickied |
| 08:19.29 | ZealotOnAStick | hehehe. |
| 08:19.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I enabled it during a flight. |
| 08:19.39 | ZealotOnAStick | with a bar already filling. |
| 08:19.43 | nymbia | Tekkub: it shall be so. |
| 08:19.43 | ZealotOnAStick | and it didn't reverse direction. |
| 08:19.53 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: die in a fire. |
| 08:20.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I haven't taxi'd since, as I hearthed the hell out on our final Leotheras wipe tonight. |
| 08:20.28 | evl | ckknight: I just noticed that HideBlizzard hides the default cast bar even if the CastBar module isn't enabled. |
| 08:20.33 | ZealotOnAStick | gimme a couple to pause my Who'ness and find my mouse and I'll find out. |
| 08:20.37 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r38559 10pDebuffList/ (core.lua pDebuffList.toc): pDebuffList: Adjusted layout a little |
| 08:21.17 | nevcairiel | anyone from US have a changelog on 2.1.1 yet? |
| 08:21.21 | Punkie` | I am so going to get the 40000th commit! /nod |
| 08:21.32 | ckknight | evl: so disable the hidings. |
| 08:21.58 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel i dont think so its ~2am in the morning in the USA afaik :P |
| 08:22.00 | cryogen | oh there's another patch? |
| 08:22.14 | evl | ckknight: it's all or nothing, either all player, target and party frames and castbar or nothing gets hidden, imho castbar should be removed from hideblizzard and moved into castbar when it's enabled. |
| 08:22.16 | Matrix110 | normally patches come around 7-8am |
| 08:22.26 | ckknight | evl: ...no |
| 08:22.37 | ckknight | evl: it's not all or nothing. |
| 08:22.59 | evl | okay then, crude local patch inc |
| 08:23.02 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: seems to function properly. |
| 08:23.12 | Jaxon | Any suggestions to track Transmute cooldowns? Last one I used was Keep It Cool. |
| 08:23.16 | ckknight | evl: sad that you're not observant enough to see the _THIRD_ option down in the PitBull menu |
| 08:23.29 | evl | ckknight: guess I'm not :D |
| 08:23.39 | ckknight | maybe I should make a policy that whoever hits 40k commit for the sake of getting the 40k should just be banned from SVN. We don't need bullshit commits. |
| 08:24.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i should get svn access just to do that >.> |
| 08:24.17 | ckknight | and there's people who store up a whole bunch of commits to release in the hopes of getting the big round number |
| 08:24.24 | ckknight | and that's even more bullshit |
| 08:24.31 | ckknight | why the fuck would you hold back your code? |
| 08:24.34 | ckknight | fucking assholes. |
| 08:24.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd be fine with that. Amused as I am by the concept, and floating the concept in IRC, it's far too much trouble to actually do. |
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| 08:26.10 | ckknight | I mean, yes, it's cool when you get the big round number, but if you aim at it for the sake of it, you're frankly just a self-serving asshole |
| 08:26.10 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: neat, thanks :) |
| 08:26.28 | nevcairiel | ckknight: you are just saying that so that you can get it! |
| 08:26.37 | ckknight | no, I'm not |
| 08:26.45 | ckknight | if I get it, it's cause I'm making progress |
| 08:26.47 | ZealotOnAStick | and thank you. |
| 08:27.15 | ckknight | not because I'm prickless |
| 08:27.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. |
| 08:27.37 | ZealotOnAStick | not quite the same wording, but that reminds me of a line from Ghostbusters. |
| 08:27.59 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38560 10FuBar_ModMenuTuFu/Core.lua: |
| 08:27.59 | CIA-22 | FuBar_ModMenuTuFu: |
| 08:27.59 | CIA-22 | - Add a few more dependancy groupings. |
| 08:27.59 | CIA-22 | - Use a non-case-sensitive sort for author names. |
| 08:28.14 | Fisker- | is there an addon that makes it possible to remove the ticketframe? |
| 08:28.17 | Cyrez | ckknight: I second that on the ban idea. Fortunately, r38000 was actually legit. <3 |
| 08:28.19 | Fisker- | I was thinking like a fubar plugin |
| 08:28.32 | Fisker- | if not, please make it ckknight or i'll QQ :( |
| 08:28.44 | nymbia | ckknight: nice post |
| 08:28.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Remove it? Or just, like, move it? Or make it go transparency 1% or something? |
| 08:28.54 | Fisker- | what post? |
| 08:29.01 | nymbia | Fisker-: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6547.0 |
| 08:29.25 | ckknight | Cyrez: I have absolutely no issues with legit commits |
| 08:29.30 | ckknight | Cyrez: that's the whole point of the convo |
| 08:29.34 | Fisker- | hahaha |
| 08:29.45 | Fisker- | you stoelz my term |
| 08:29.55 | nymbia | Fisker-: LIES |
| 08:30.32 | Cyrez | I noe, I'm just saying I think it would be a good idea to ban an idiot if they commit just for the sake of it being 40K. |
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| 08:31.15 | syeren | ckknight, as you probably know already, your fix was perfect thanks :P |
| 08:31.15 | Fisker- | so who's up for making a fubarplugin that removes the ticketframe and moves the ticketstatus up there? :D |
| 08:31.42 | ckknight | syeren: actually I didn't know. :-P |
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| 08:32.01 | syeren | Well I was doing arena quite a lot yesterday and no -combat spikes :p |
| 08:32.03 | Cyrez | Devs are here to write addons and libraries, not slap their wangs around. They can do that when somebody says, "ZOMG I LOVE YOUR ADDON!!!112" |
| 08:32.35 | ZealotOnAStick | people say that? |
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| 08:33.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I thought we were supposed to belittle and ridicule them, to enact a psychological state in which they'll strive for worth by coding more? |
| 08:33.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38561 10DogTag-1.0/ (DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua DogTag-1.0.toc): |
| 08:33.24 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - potential optimization by checking if the text is actually visible |
| 08:33.24 | CIA-22 | before generating the text. Also make standard :Update* and :Register* methods |
| 08:33.24 | CIA-22 | wait 0.05 seconds before actually updating, which is arguably not enough for the |
| 08:33.24 | CIA-22 | user to notice the change. |
| 08:33.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I mean . . . isn't that what Curse teaches us? |
| 08:33.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: thats what i assumed |
| 08:33.35 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_060507_103125.jpg <-starting to look like something now |
| 08:34.40 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:34.40 | vhaarr | mornings |
| 08:34.40 | ckknight | Fisker-: try out PitBull_Threat yet? |
| 08:34.40 | ckknight | hey [Ammo] |
| 08:34.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker- - what is, precisely? |
| 08:34.41 | Fisker- | yeah ckknight, but i don't think it's that good for raiding :P |
| 08:34.44 | Hjalte | Does anyone have a changelog for patch 2.1.1? |
| 08:34.45 | Fisker- | my new ui ZealotOnAStick :P |
| 08:35.05 | Fisker- | On some encounters it's just as important to know your tanks aggro as your own |
| 08:35.51 | nadas | there's a patch today? |
| 08:36.03 | ZealotOnAStick | oh. Which meter mod is that in the bottom right? and, what did your old look like? |
| 08:36.07 | Fisker- | there's one for EU tomorrow atleast |
| 08:36.08 | todd` | Fisker-, for a sec it looked like you had 162,752 gold |
| 08:36.11 | todd` | I was like O_o |
| 08:36.14 | Fisker- | ZealotOnAStick recount |
| 08:36.35 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lolwut.JPG <-old ui |
| 08:36.57 | Cyrez | Is WoW patching? |
| 08:37.13 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 08:37.15 | Fisker- | set realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 08:37.15 | Fisker- | set patchlist eu.version.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 08:37.21 | Fisker- | excuse me wtf r u doing? |
| 08:37.40 | Hjalte | Cyrez, there's a patch being applied to EU, 2.1.1, tommorow. |
| 08:37.53 | Elkano | what does it do? |
| 08:37.56 | ZealotOnAStick | ahh. New one does look like a little more efficient use of space. |
| 08:38.03 | Cyrez | Ooo. |
| 08:38.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38562 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - another slight optimization |
| 08:40.08 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r38563 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/ (FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 08:40.08 | CIA-22 | FuBar_CraftTimersFu: |
| 08:40.08 | CIA-22 | - added an option to reset stored data for a given character (useful when unlearning a profession) |
| 08:41.05 | ZealotOnAStick | the idea of something to do with the ticket frame is a good one, BTW. I've gotten annoyed because it obscures my buffs. But I've been to lazy to install something just to move it. |
| 08:41.21 | ZealotOnAStick | hmm. |
| 08:41.37 | xt | like the GMs ever fix anything! |
| 08:41.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Wonder if you could, like, make a teeny little addon that just makes the frame movable? |
| 08:42.43 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r38564 10ArkInventory/Locale/koKR.lua: |
| 08:42.43 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:42.44 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:43.40 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone remember the exact name of the ticketframe? |
| 08:43.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38565 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - optimization for texts that are not shown, don't continue to try to update them |
| 08:43.59 | ckknight | TicketStatusFrame |
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| 08:45.38 | Hjalte | Threatlib says it will kick my dog - And I don't even have one :( |
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| 08:46.37 | Silviu- | buy one ;) |
| 08:47.28 | theoddone33 | I dunno where nihilum's server is, but is it save to say it's been reset with no illidan kill this week? |
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| 08:47.35 | abbat_w | good day guys |
| 08:47.43 | nevcairiel | nihilum is EU |
| 08:47.46 | nevcairiel | still one raid day |
| 08:47.50 | theoddone33 | cool |
| 08:49.11 | apl | no they still have today to try Illidan before reset |
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| 08:49.37 | apl | I'm getting error in Click2Cast.lua line 103, v.actionText seems to be nil for some reason |
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| 08:52.25 | doktoreas | Fisker-: 153774 gold :O |
| 08:52.25 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38566 10Doodle/Doodle.lua: |
| 08:52.25 | CIA-22 | Doodle: |
| 08:52.25 | CIA-22 | - Add Doodle:InjectBackgrounds(), so they can be stuck in from a seperate addon. |
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| 08:54.07 | doktoreas | wich is the best way for getting ride of all embed lib? |
| 08:54.17 | doktoreas | got some doc? |
| 08:54.46 | Matrix110 | wowaceupdater.sourceforge.net |
| 08:54.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38567 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - optimization in the way text is checked whether to be shown. i.e. instead of checking if :GetCenter() exists properly, just check :GetNumPoints() > 0 |
| 08:55.08 | ckknight | k, that should make things all peachy |
| 08:55.08 | Matrix110 | check !!!StandaloneLibaries -->Menu reinstall all addons |
| 08:56.13 | apl | does it improve performance or anything if I switch to standalonelibs? |
| 08:56.38 | ckknight | apl: loading times |
| 08:56.40 | CIA-22 | 03sole * r38568 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.lua Locals/enUS.lua comm.lua): Gladiator: Optimizations and bug fixes all round. |
| 08:56.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38569 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - only show Threat text on non-targets |
| 08:56.53 | NightHawkTheSane | and really only initial loading at that. |
| 08:56.56 | doktoreas | Matrix110: mac here :( |
| 08:57.07 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 08:57.21 | Matrix110 | then its kinda annoying to get all libs |
| 08:57.22 | apl | hmmh |
| 08:57.25 | apl | not memory usage? |
| 08:57.25 | doktoreas | i'll see with WUU |
| 08:57.35 | NightHawkTheSane | apl: no, why would it? you still have to load all the same libs |
| 08:57.42 | ckknight | apl: no, there's no reason why it would take less memory |
| 08:57.47 | vhaarr | doktoreas: You can use Kemayo's Python script, I guess. |
| 08:57.58 | vhaarr | doktoreas: Or that Java updater. |
| 08:58.12 | Fisker- | It is possible to request the status on the ticketframe right? |
| 08:58.12 | Jaxon | I use MacAceUpdater, but doesn't have a disembed option. |
| 08:58.28 | vhaarr | Fisker-: What status? |
| 08:58.36 | Matrix110 | well depends how/if WoW keeps not used files that are inside the .toc in the memory somehow |
| 08:58.38 | Fisker- | "No eta, soon, escalated, survey" |
| 08:58.45 | vhaarr | Fisker-: Yeah, the text is there. |
| 08:58.59 | Matrix110 | running embedded libs is just so many damn files thats why i disembedded |
| 08:59.00 | vhaarr | So you can parse that, if the frame doens't have a custom property for it. |
| 08:59.05 | Fisker- | Now i just need someone to rape and/or bribe to make a fubar plugin :o |
| 08:59.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Matrix110: meh, its six of one half dozen of the other. It's not really much of a noticable difference |
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| 08:59.49 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 09:00.03 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 09:00.24 | nymbia | Fisker-: wuts it do? |
| 09:00.36 | apl | does anyone happen to know about this Click2Cast problem? it seems to prevent PitBull from loading properly |
| 09:00.41 | Fisker- | wuts what do? |
| 09:00.54 | doktoreas | vhaarr: i am trying with WWU. I installed !!Standalone and for all addon checked disable enbed lib |
| 09:00.55 | Fisker- | yeah apl it's made by microsoft |
| 09:01.03 | nymbia | Fisker-: the fubar plugin ;p |
| 09:01.14 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: he wants an addon that hides the gm ticket status window, and has a fubar plugin that will relay the status of said ticket |
| 09:01.20 | nymbia | hrm |
| 09:01.28 | NightHawkTheSane | s/window/frame/ |
| 09:01.37 | Fisker- | it removes the GM ticket frame and replaces it with a fubar plugin with tablet or text on it regardin it's status |
| 09:01.37 | abbat_w | Uh |
| 09:01.38 | vhaarr | apl: ckknight changed that a few days ago, I think, perhaps you could give him the error text. |
| 09:01.44 | abbat_w | I want this addon too |
| 09:01.45 | Fisker- | it anyone would to make one that is |
| 09:01.55 | abbat_w | Which hide ticket and make fubar icon instead ;) |
| 09:02.02 | Fisker- | FULazystupidGMFu |
| 09:02.06 | apl | yeah the problem appeared a few days ago |
| 09:02.08 | Fisker- | "FU not being Fu :P |
| 09:02.26 | abbat_w | and btw about lag after zoning. i try tonight with agUF and PitBull |
| 09:02.28 | NightHawkTheSane | "Ticketmaster" ;) |
| 09:02.34 | apl | ckknight: if you're familiar with this, v.actionText on line 103 of Click2Cast.lua seems to be nil |
| 09:02.52 | abbat_w | And sometimes after join BG i have freeze in ~ 10 sec with both addons |
| 09:03.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38570 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast.lua: Click2Cast - fix potential bug |
| 09:03.32 | apl | hmm |
| 09:03.33 | apl | let's try |
| 09:03.35 | ckknight | abbat_w: when did you last update? |
| 09:04.22 | abbat_w | i update PitBull/agUF about 16-17 hours. ~ 21:00 Msk (GMT +2) |
| 09:05.00 | abbat_w | Looks like WoW client fetch data from server and this produce lag |
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| 09:05.21 | Neebler | do I need threat-1.0 in order to run Omen, or is that just a library that's already included in Omen's /lib/ directory? |
| 09:05.26 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@gw.apt.no) |
| 09:05.37 | ckknight | should be in /lib/ |
| 09:05.43 | Neebler | k |
| 09:05.45 | abbat_w | I never got same lag after zoning not in bg, teleport for example, even if i in group |
| 09:05.54 | Aenslaed | ckknight: can you add a manual reset on omen? |
| 09:05.58 | ckknight | odd, abbat_w |
| 09:06.02 | abbat_w | It's just only at bg |
| 09:06.04 | Aenslaed | ckknight: it doesn't seem to reset on all wipes. |
| 09:06.07 | ckknight | Aenslaed: sorry, not the Omen author |
| 09:06.13 | Aenslaed | oh |
| 09:06.18 | Aenslaed | only threat? |
| 09:06.30 | doktoreas | Matrix110: all folders in !!Standalone should be paced in addon folder like that were standard addons? |
| 09:06.33 | abbat_w | Aenslaed, try to ask Ammo ;) |
| 09:06.40 | xt | well, Omen needs a hook in Threat, no? |
| 09:06.45 | abbat_w | doktoreas, yep |
| 09:06.49 | Matrix110 | yes doktoreas |
| 09:06.53 | xt | a /script Threat:reset() would be lovely |
| 09:07.03 | Matrix110 | but iam not sure if your Mac updater works with that properly |
| 09:07.04 | xt | synced, ofc |
| 09:07.24 | [Ammo] | euhm /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):RequestThreatClear() |
| 09:07.27 | [Ammo] | iirc |
| 09:07.41 | doktoreas | thx mates.. is upgrading |
| 09:08.02 | xt | [Ammo]: nice, i figured something like that existed |
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| 09:08.24 | apl | have you seen 2.1.1 patchnotes anywhere yet? |
| 09:08.35 | abbat_w | 2.1.1 notes? |
| 09:08.38 | abbat_w | btw guys ;) |
| 09:08.55 | abbat_w | tonight i finally get my Cobalt Netherdrake ;) |
| 09:09.21 | zwiep` | can someone tell me what addon for raidframes this is |
| 09:09.36 | zwiep` | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3978/5yd9.jpg |
| 09:09.44 | zwiep` | old ui :p |
| 09:09.54 | Ins- | perfectraid |
| 09:09.55 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r38571 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (7 files): Bartender4: fixed alot of drycoding issues, added default bars, still no worky :P |
| 09:09.55 | abbat_w | perfectraid |
| 09:09.56 | omega | perfectraid |
| 09:09.56 | LePeR|Jaunia | praid |
| 09:09.58 | LePeR|Jaunia | yea |
| 09:10.01 | zwiep` | thanks a lot |
| 09:10.05 | abbat_w | Bartender4? |
| 09:10.15 | zwiep` | has it been updated for 2.1? |
| 09:10.23 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, you work on BT4? |
| 09:10.35 | nevcairiel | no i fake commits to get the 40000 :P |
| 09:10.36 | LePeR|Jaunia | yes it has |
| 09:10.42 | LePeR|Jaunia | its on wowinterface.com |
| 09:10.56 | omega | nevcairiel: whats going to be new/improved? |
| 09:11.00 | [Ammo] | you have some commits to go nevcairiel :p |
| 09:11.05 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 09:11.23 | LePeR|Jaunia | so anyone see grindhouse? |
| 09:11.27 | nevcairiel | omega: dont ask me, i am only writing it :rolleyes: |
| 09:11.36 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: you should make 40k the commit that merges your complete bt4 to trunk. chop chop! |
| 09:11.49 | omega | nevcairiel: aha :) |
| 09:11.51 | nevcairiel | still 1500 commits time for me then |
| 09:13.25 | doktoreas | Matrix110: can i remove te folder lib inside each addon? |
| 09:13.25 | Adirelle | vhaarr: about Violation, do you think making the Threat and Banzai modules separate addons to reduce dependancy of core could worth it ? |
| 09:13.42 | Matrix110 | doktoreas no but for most addons yes |
| 09:13.53 | Matrix110 | there are some addons that got libs integrated that arent a part of SAL |
| 09:13.55 | vhaarr | Adirelle: hm |
| 09:14.03 | Matrix110 | but for 98% of the Addons just delete /libs |
| 09:14.05 | doktoreas | like omen it seem |
| 09:14.06 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: we still need LoD structure |
| 09:14.19 | doktoreas | need threat |
| 09:14.19 | vhaarr | Adirelle: Yeah, we're going to wait for a proper LoD system. |
| 09:14.26 | Fisker- | :o nevcairiel bartender4 :o |
| 09:14.32 | vhaarr | Adirelle: That's why the modules were moved into Healing, Damage, Other, etc. |
| 09:14.35 | Silviu- | Adirelle also make that 200 range optional .. i had to disable Violation because 35 kib in raid increase all time and a lil slower fps is not so good ;p |
| 09:14.44 | Fisker- | I'm wondering will you be able to provide proper stickying according to scale and other effects like padding and such? |
| 09:15.06 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:15.12 | nevcairiel | what do i care about stickying |
| 09:15.13 | Adirelle | Silviu-: just configure CombatLogRange yourself, it is in the fubar menu |
| 09:15.18 | abbat_w | (make another dab please!) |
| 09:15.20 | Fisker- | QQ :( |
| 09:15.21 | [Ammo] | the default should never be 200 |
| 09:15.25 | Silviu- | Oh did not see it |
| 09:15.28 | [Ammo] | it should be the blizz default |
| 09:15.43 | Adirelle | well... the default is to disable outside of party |
| 09:16.00 | Adirelle | I still have to check why the "in instance" doesn't work :/ |
| 09:16.09 | [Ammo] | it should be the default always |
| 09:16.13 | [Ammo] | unless someone specifies otherwise |
| 09:16.16 | [Ammo] | I have a very shit machine |
| 09:16.22 | [Ammo] | and it can't handle that kinda crap |
| 09:16.41 | [Ammo] | deciding it's a good thing to have 200 yards is bad. when it's not the blizz default |
| 09:16.45 | [Ammo] | if someone wants to up it, let them |
| 09:16.50 | Hjalte | Adirelle, the violation combatlog range addon, does it also increase combatlog range for other addons, such as bigwigs? |
| 09:16.51 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r38572 10DKPmon_BossAuction/: |
| 09:16.51 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_BossAuction: initial commit |
| 09:16.51 | CIA-22 | - Boss points and auction module for DKPmon |
| 09:17.04 | [Ammo] | Hjalte: it's a CVar setting, so yeah |
| 09:17.05 | apl | how often does files.wowace.com update from repository? |
| 09:17.12 | [Ammo] | every 20 mins |
| 09:17.13 | Adirelle | Violation_CBR is an additionnal module that you're not required to install, and is fully configure |
| 09:17.18 | Adirelle | s/gure/gurable/ |
| 09:17.25 | [Ammo] | hmmok |
| 09:17.30 | [Ammo] | thought someone said it was in the normal distro |
| 09:17.31 | [Ammo] | then I don't care |
| 09:17.40 | NightHawkTheSane | CBR? constant bit rate? |
| 09:17.45 | Silviu- | [Ammo] what`s the cvar setting for it ? |
| 09:17.54 | Adirelle | ComBat log Range :p |
| 09:18.05 | NightHawkTheSane | sounds more like CLR than CBR :P |
| 09:18.06 | Adirelle | CLR would be more accurate |
| 09:18.19 | Adirelle | yep, my bad |
| 09:18.32 | doktoreas | Matrix110: last question then i'll stop :D Is there an addon as perfectargets where i can select targets? |
| 09:18.38 | NightHawkTheSane | er, encoding bit rates, bah. i should sleep |
| 09:19.01 | Silviu- | [Ammo] and which is the default bliz one, and can i set it from an chat command ? |
| 09:19.06 | Matrix110 | uhm doktoreas ive never used perfecttargets so ive got no clue:P |
| 09:19.09 | [Ammo] | I think it's 30 or 50 |
| 09:19.12 | nadas | hmm, how easy would it be to hack Threat so it doesn't pick up KTM messages? :p |
| 09:19.13 | [Ammo] | not sure :) |
| 09:19.20 | [Ammo] | nadas: you don't :p |
| 09:19.24 | nadas | boo |
| 09:19.50 | nadas | i'll hack omen then :) |
| 09:20.00 | Matrix110 | nadas you can prolly comment it out easily |
| 09:20.32 | Adirelle | Silviu-: note sute it is really the default, but it is was I got from another CL extending addon : http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Violation_CombatLogRange/Violation_CombatLogRange.lua?order=name#L32 |
| 09:20.34 | doktoreas | omen seem great..make your guild switch to it nadas ;) |
| 09:20.51 | nadas | i can easily make my guild switch once it's ready for full out use |
| 09:21.07 | doktoreas | on yesterday karazhan went fine |
| 09:21.31 | nadas | but i don't want any silly KTM users to taint my lovely multi-target threat :p |
| 09:22.10 | Adirelle | vhaarr: I was also considering splitting the main big file into smaller ones, but that's a very big change, I don't feel making it myself |
| 09:22.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38573 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fix bugs with the filtering system |
| 09:22.33 | vhaarr | Adirelle: I don't think you should. |
| 09:22.34 | Aenslaed | doktoreas: its not ready. I couldn't rely on omen at all tonight. Didn't help that we didn't oneshot any bosses except Gruul |
| 09:22.50 | vhaarr | Adirelle: I have some stuff planned for splitting it up, but we'll see if that happens or not. |
| 09:22.56 | vhaarr | Adirelle: Really, it's not a pressing issue. |
| 09:22.59 | Aenslaed | but the fact that it never registered any wipe at all made it unacceptable. |
| 09:23.20 | Adirelle | vhaarr: not really, but I never feel happy with thoses bigs files :p |
| 09:23.30 | Aenslaed | kill vashj, wipe to maulgar, gg |
| 09:23.42 | Adirelle | I meant "it really isn't pressing" |
| 09:24.34 | Silviu- | Thx Adirele |
| 09:24.50 | Adirelle | vhaarr: btw, I was looking to implement SWStas spying, but the comms seem much more complicated than DM ones, and it doesn't try to sync unless another people in the party have it installed too |
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| 09:25.09 | Adirelle | which would meaning implementing the whole handshaking thing and the like |
| 09:25.13 | vhaarr | Adirelle: I think Ammo has been working on that. |
| 09:25.14 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r38574 10DKPmon_BossAuction/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:25.14 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_BossAuction: initial import |
| 09:25.14 | CIA-22 | - Boss points Auction module for DKPmon. |
| 09:25.20 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: I have it nearly nailed down :p |
| 09:25.26 | [Ammo] | just some data caching |
| 09:25.30 | [Ammo] | and it's done |
| 09:25.33 | Adirelle | woot, great |
| 09:26.18 | [Ammo] | although it's experimental ofcourse :) |
| 09:26.21 | Diao | wow |
| 09:26.29 | Diao | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Xqtr <- how the fuck do you kill that |
| 09:26.31 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: you may want to add another source level |
| 09:26.36 | apl | ckkight: thanks, click2cast seems to work again |
| 09:26.36 | [Ammo] | already did :p |
| 09:26.47 | [Ammo] | it's inbetween violation and dmm |
| 09:27.01 | Adirelle | violation's really going to rock :D |
| 09:27.28 | Adirelle | (tho I saw difference between violation and BG damage reports :/) |
| 09:28.57 | [Ammo] | sometimes DoTs and other stuff tick without being recorded by you |
| 09:29.07 | [Ammo] | or you die, release and the person gets damaged out of range |
| 09:29.08 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 09:29.16 | Adirelle | I'm going to add an optional sync report to the tooltip (popular request), it would be cool if you could catch SWS version (I'll try to do the same with DM) |
| 09:29.20 | kebinusan | diao, banish the pet or kill it and kill the lock |
| 09:29.24 | kebinusan | healers almost never heal the pet |
| 09:29.45 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: I can |
| 09:29.47 | [Ammo] | haven't bothered yet |
| 09:29.56 | [Ammo] | but I can store it in the SWSSession table |
| 09:30.27 | Adirelle | either that or put a copy in userViolation[user].version |
| 09:30.31 | Diao | kebinusan |
| 09:30.33 | Diao | you realize |
| 09:30.41 | Diao | 12.6k hp and 400 resilience |
| 09:30.46 | Diao | you will never crit this guy :P |
| 09:30.56 | ZealotOnAStick | sure you will. |
| 09:31.01 | nekoh | why does violation use its own color for the gui header and not the colors you can specify for the seperate modules? i like heaving different header colors for different modules |
| 09:31.03 | Diao | well exaggeration of course |
| 09:31.04 | ZealotOnAStick | that's only ~11% crit reduction |
| 09:31.08 | kebinusan | you will, and you dont need to crit to win |
| 09:31.09 | Diao | but -10% crit and and -20% crit damage |
| 09:31.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38575 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - optimizations (thanks, Jerry) |
| 09:31.22 | ZealotOnAStick | So, use damage that doesn't crit? |
| 09:31.32 | Diao | so basically another wl |
| 09:31.32 | ZealotOnAStick | what classes would you be using against this guy? |
| 09:31.59 | ZealotOnAStick | shadow priest. Hunter. Rogue. |
| 09:32.15 | Diao | rogues rely on crit |
| 09:32.17 | ZealotOnAStick | suck his mana pool dry and hit him with CC first, he'll be pissed. And dead, after a bit. |
| 09:32.18 | Diao | >.> |
| 09:32.34 | Diao | and err |
| 09:32.40 | Diao | warlock and dry mana pool? |
| 09:32.57 | Jaxon | Looks like 12 wasted Demonology points to me |
| 09:33.08 | ZealotOnAStick | he'll what, tap himself down lower in pvp? |
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| 09:33.28 | nymbia | drop in the bucket |
| 09:33.34 | nymbia | most teams i know bring healers ;) |
| 09:33.47 | nymbia | we did fight an all-dps 5 man this one time |
| 09:33.54 | nymbia | i think they got someone below 50% |
| 09:33.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Right. CC the dps, kill the healers. |
| 09:34.07 | Diao | lol |
| 09:34.21 | Diao | hm demonic resilience too |
| 09:34.23 | Diao | another -3% to crit |
| 09:34.30 | Aim2 | Diao: uhm? |
| 09:34.31 | syeren | Are you talking about arena? |
| 09:34.40 | Diao | yes |
| 09:34.48 | kebinusan | its not hard, he has 900 damage, but no instant cast spells besides corruption and shadowburn |
| 09:34.50 | syeren | Why would you kill the healers first? |
| 09:34.57 | syeren | Unless the priest is mana burning, you kill DPS first. |
| 09:34.58 | kebinusan | and corruption can be dispelled |
| 09:35.14 | Diao | don't forget fel domination for instant resummon |
| 09:35.15 | kebinusan | you mana burn him, cc or kill the pet, he loses a ton of damage and mitigation |
| 09:35.18 | Diao | healthstones |
| 09:35.18 | kebinusan | or ignore him |
| 09:35.21 | Aim2 | 12:35 < Diao> Aim2: Connect all 3 houses to the water, eletricity and gas suppliers without crossing any lines. |
| 09:35.22 | kebinusan | and deal with him last |
| 09:35.24 | Aim2 | :) |
| 09:35.27 | Diao | oh |
| 09:35.30 | kebinusan | yeah so what, so you have to kill the pet twice |
| 09:35.35 | Diao | that was from my autocomplete script |
| 09:35.38 | Diao | it was supposed to be a aim: |
| 09:35.41 | Diao | sorry :P |
| 09:35.43 | Aim2 | ah oke ;) |
| 09:35.45 | kebinusan | again its not that big of a deal especially for a melee, just blow bladeflurry and kill them both at once |
| 09:35.45 | xt | when did this turn into #wow-arena ? |
| 09:35.46 | Aim2 | np :P |
| 09:35.48 | syeren | You keep the warrior under control, leave the paladin to do what he wants while he is being burned. |
| 09:35.53 | syeren | While your DPS focus their DPS. |
| 09:35.55 | syeren | ;p |
| 09:36.02 | Aim2 | i dont say much here, but try to keep track it tho :) |
| 09:36.09 | Diao | killing the pet twice when it's SLed and has -15% all incoming damage |
| 09:36.10 | syeren | But then again, it's entirely reliant on Comp. |
| 09:36.12 | Diao | is pretty "fun" |
| 09:36.41 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r38576 10Bidder_BossAuction/: |
| 09:36.41 | CIA-22 | Bidder_BossAuction: initial import |
| 09:36.41 | CIA-22 | Boss points Auction module for Bidder |
| 09:36.45 | kebinusan | diao, Im not going to theorycraft a fight to beat that guy with you, its possible, its not hard, just dont expect that it will be easy w/o similar gear |
| 09:36.55 | syeren | Just basically killing a healer is a ball ache ;p |
| 09:37.02 | syeren | Due to thow much much protection they have. |
| 09:37.57 | syeren | Unless of course you run a Lol-ism + Win-fury team. |
| 09:38.06 | syeren | Into which yeah, you're pretty wicked sick with your mad skills. |
| 09:38.22 | Fisker- | oh hi nymbia |
| 09:38.31 | Fisker- | I just twisted your arm |
| 09:39.07 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r38577 10Bidder_BossAuction/ (4 files): Bidder_BossAuction: commit files |
| 09:40.04 | wobin_ | suggestions for an accounting addon? |
| 09:41.51 | snirks | how can i query the last comments on an addons release? |
| 09:41.59 | snirks | sort of what CIA-22 is doing |
| 09:42.10 | snirks | is it like !violation ? |
| 09:42.13 | Matrix110 | i think there was a google page for it |
| 09:42.27 | Matrix110 | ~svn |
| 09:42.38 | purl | well, subversion is version control software. see http://subversion.tigris.org/ it aims to be a better CVS than CVS. |
| 09:42.38 | Matrix110 | ~ |
| 09:42.38 | snirks | svn violation |
| 09:42.46 | Hjalte | http://cia.vc/stats/project/Ace |
| 09:42.50 | Fisker- | ~cia |
| 09:42.53 | purl | i heard cia is a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.vc/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) |
| 09:42.59 | snirks | ~violation |
| 09:43.07 | Fisker- | man you guys are n00bs |
| 09:43.15 | snirks | you know it |
| 09:43.52 | snirks | =( |
| 09:44.39 | cryogen | ~purl |
| 09:45.15 | Matrix110 | ~blootbot |
| 09:45.27 | purl | [blootbot] an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
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| 09:49.26 | ZealotOnAStick | ~noob |
| 09:49.27 | purl | just what someone is before they're a pro |
| 09:49.42 | ZealotOnAStick | ~noob |
| 09:49.43 | purl | ACTION has died. <reply> I looked up noob on wikipedia. Who is this Fisker person, anyway? |
| 09:50.14 | ZealotOnAStick | bah. |
| 09:50.35 | ZealotOnAStick | now how do I fix that? |
| 09:50.51 | Fisker- | something like |
| 09:50.54 | Fisker- | purl, forget noob |
| 09:50.54 | purl | Fisker-: i forgot noob |
| 09:50.57 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 09:51.12 | xt | purl is lovely |
| 09:51.21 | Fisker- | purl is purtty |
| 09:51.45 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r38578 10Bidder_BossAuction/Bidder_BossAuction.toc: Bidder_BossAuction: update forum link and other .toc info |
| 09:51.50 | Elkano | ~botsnack |
| 09:51.50 | purl | Elkano: aw, gee |
| 09:52.10 | CIA-22 | 03javek * r38579 10DKPmon_BossAuction/ (. DKPmon_BossAuction.toc): DKPmon_BossAuction: Update forum link and other .toc info |
| 09:52.12 | Fisker- | Who do i have to brutally murder for a fubar ticketframe plugin? |
| 09:52.32 | Fisker- | did it work? |
| 09:52.50 | ZealotOnAStick | can purl have more than 2 responses for a topic? |
| 09:53.09 | Fisker- | yes |
| 09:53.18 | Fisker- | purl, literal ballmer |
| 09:53.19 | purl | "ballmer" is "Darth Maul to Gates' Palpatine, or fat" |
| 09:53.27 | Fisker- | purl, literal steveballmer |
| 09:53.29 | purl | "steveballmer" is "<action> ( throws a chair at $nick | bounces on $nick screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"| dances on $nick while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"| throws an AL at $nick screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!! | roars "I'll f*cking KILL $nick!" | dances like a monkey ontop of $nick)" |
| 09:53.50 | Fisker- | ~steveballmer nymbia |
| 09:53.51 | purl | ACTION dances on top of nymbia like a monkey" |
| 09:54.20 | Wobin | er |
| 09:54.27 | Wobin | that's a different syntax |
| 09:55.10 | ZealotOnAStick | anywho . . . sleep probably wise. |
| 09:55.22 | Fisker- | doh |
| 09:55.27 | Elkano | Fisker, you know as well as I do that I cannot be destroyed! |
| 09:55.39 | Fisker- | for some reason ghost buffs doesn't work in buffalo2 anymore :( |
| 09:56.03 | Elkano | (anyone knowing where that quote comes from gets a free cookie) |
| 10:00.49 | Wobin | alas |
| 10:00.52 | Wobin | googlefu is weak |
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| 10:03.36 | todd` | ugh |
| 10:06.30 | Fisker- | my horrific ui is almost done |
| 10:08.28 | Fisker- | anyone got a macro for using flying mounts if possible, else landmount? |
| 10:08.53 | Adirelle | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.11 | Kinkx | Any good addon to manage healthstones and potions? Tried using autobar, but it doesn't update or display which healthstones you have used or have left.. so kind of hard to know which button to click when you have 3 healthstones + pot |
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| 10:09.23 | todd` | my awesome ui was almost done, but alas.. servers are down now |
| 10:09.28 | Adirelle | Kinkx: no way to update in combat |
| 10:10.42 | Kinkx | It doesnt even show a cooldown sometimes tho, seems so buggy |
| 10:10.47 | Kinkx | No better addon out there? |
| 10:11.19 | cryogen | autobar seems to fix itself if you mouse over it a bit |
| 10:11.33 | cryogen | it also seems to break often with commits and then suddendly get fixed :) |
| 10:11.44 | Elkano | maybe PT3Bar? |
| 10:11.57 | Kinkx | I'll try it out, thanks :) |
| 10:12.15 | cryogen | thin gthat annoys me about autobar is it not recognising some stuff, and me being too lazy to add it manually(or figure out how to do so) |
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| 10:13.04 | Kinkx | Yea, doesn't show the new Cenarion healing/mana pots >< |
| 10:13.28 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 10:13.39 | Fisker- | this is bad :( |
| 10:13.53 | cryogen | i shall try pt3bar also |
| 10:14.19 | Kinkx | What is, Fisker-? |
| 10:14.59 | Fisker- | my wow crashed when i made a raid |
| 10:15.06 | Fisker- | and now my settings are reset |
| 10:15.25 | Fisker- | well atleast those i made since last session |
| 10:15.31 | Fisker- | + my fubar is screwy now |
| 10:15.46 | Kinkx | Thats not cool >< |
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| 10:16.16 | Fisker- | i so much need testframes for grid |
| 10:16.19 | Fisker- | this is annoying :( |
| 10:16.49 | Fisker- | can't finish my layout until i get a raid then |
| 10:18.05 | Fisker- | ckknight does it save a bit on memory/cpu usage to disable uneeded frames, even though they're hidden? |
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| 10:27.09 | Fisker- | omg |
| 10:27.15 | Fisker- | THIS ISN'T HAPPENING GOD |
| 10:27.24 | Fisker- | /facepalm |
| 10:27.39 | Fisker- | I just finished getting it back to what it was |
| 10:27.44 | Fisker- | *massive lagspike* |
| 10:27.48 | Fisker- | *can't do anything* |
| 10:27.51 | Fisker- | *WoW crashes* |
| 10:27.52 | Fisker- | "!¤"!&/¤"! |
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| 10:28.38 | Matrix110 | :) |
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| 10:29.23 | Stephmw | Fisker-: it's the dev's payback for you trolling the forums |
| 10:29.24 | Fisker- | i swear i'm gonna /rl each time i change something now |
| 10:31.00 | Elkano | I'm leaving you for certain doom... l8erz... |
| 10:32.28 | sbu | hm Fisker- - nice monologue |
| 10:33.53 | nymbia | Fisker- is bad! |
| 10:33.54 | nymbia | ;) |
| 10:34.00 | Fisker- | *reloads ui again* |
| 10:34.07 | nymbia | haha |
| 10:34.15 | evl | Anyone got 2.1.1 notes? |
| 10:34.23 | Gagorian | Fisker-: That's what you get for rickrolling ace devs |
| 10:34.35 | Gagorian | You bastard :( |
| 10:34.44 | Fisker- | i never rickroll you |
| 10:34.46 | Jaxon | Fisker-: I heard that Pitbull configuration modes create frames in Grid? |
| 10:35.01 | Gagorian | Fisker-: You pasted that wowwiki link here and I.. clicked it! |
| 10:35.03 | Wobin | crai |
| 10:35.06 | Fisker- | Jaxon it somewhat does |
| 10:35.11 | Wobin | WRU authentication servers? |
| 10:35.11 | Fisker- | it's very buggy :P |
| 10:35.25 | Fisker- | sometimes it doesn't sometimes it only makes 5 frames and the other times it works |
| 10:35.32 | Fisker- | you also have to change zones sometimes |
| 10:36.51 | nymbia | hrm, didnt someone say 2.1.1 was gonna be eu only? |
| 10:37.16 | Fisker- | i dunno |
| 10:37.47 | Fisker- | hmm ckknight it appears that the aura positioning doesn't work |
| 10:38.33 | nymbia | http://ace.pastey.net/51522 |
| 10:38.48 | Jaxon | Fisker-: if you want to get Grid setup easy, go join AV |
| 10:38.54 | Recluse | nymbia: i'm u.s., and it just patched me |
| 10:39.01 | nymbia | Recluse: yup |
| 10:39.15 | nymbia | notes are in that there pastey, if anyone's interested |
| 10:39.24 | Wobin | hm |
| 10:39.30 | Wobin | I kinda liked that autostack |
| 10:39.55 | Adys | if i were to look for a simple addon that moves the game tooltip to my cursor, which one should i go for? |
| 10:39.59 | Recluse | me too but autostack never worked cause of my bag addon lol |
| 10:40.16 | Jaxon | Adys: I use TinyTip |
| 10:40.19 | Wobin | Adys: Tinytip |
| 10:40.26 | Adys | clear enough :) thanks |
| 10:42.56 | evl | nymbia: thanks, nice to see they are fixing my graphical flickering bug :D |
| 10:43.12 | evl | Anyone else got some more info on the apparent macro conditionals sucking up FPS issue? |
| 10:43.22 | Recluse | i hope they fix the bouncing and underground mobs that 2.1 brought |
| 10:43.52 | cryogen | that was before 2.1 |
| 10:44.02 | cryogen | and is quite amusing |
| 10:44.05 | Morgh | nymbia: <3 your addons! |
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| 10:44.18 | sbu | i hope they fix wow crashes / freezes :o |
| 10:44.22 | sbu | + tainting issues |
| 10:44.27 | abbat-w | nymbia, where you get 2.1.0 notes? |
| 10:44.48 | Recluse | 2.1.1 notes come from the patch - restart your wow, should download and install |
| 10:44.53 | sbu | nymbia: thats it? nothing more? |
| 10:45.47 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r38580 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 10:45.47 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:45.47 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Boss. |
| 10:45.47 | CIA-22 | - all, Archmage Arugal's Voidwalker -> Arugal's Voidwalker |
| 10:45.47 | CIA-22 | - all, Gatekeeper Gyro-Kill -> Gatewatcher Gyro-Kill |
| 10:45.56 | Silviu- | Xuerian [2007/06/05 13:45:02-182-x1]: XLoot-0.9.38460\XLoot.lua:565: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") |
| 10:45.59 | evl | my Launcher.exe directly opens wow now, really annoying :P |
| 10:46.04 | Gagorian | - Stackable items retrieved from mail will no longer automatically |
| 10:46.04 | Gagorian | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.04 | Gagorian | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.07 | Gagorian | uh. |
| 10:46.11 | [Ammo] | evl: you can set a toggle |
| 10:46.14 | [Ammo] | at the login screen |
| 10:46.15 | [Ammo] | bottomleft |
| 10:46.21 | evl | Well it's enable d:P |
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| 10:47.01 | nymbia | morghus: :) |
| 10:47.14 | nymbia | abbat-w: my patch.txt after running it |
| 10:47.19 | nymbia | sbu: that's all |
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| 10:48.04 | Gagorian | nymbia: About PT3Bar, what tricks could we do in combat when some item is used up for the user to see it on the bar? |
| 10:48.27 | Gagorian | It's slightly annoying that the healthstone icon remains even if it's used |
| 10:48.39 | nymbia | Gagorian: it should alpha out to 30% |
| 10:48.39 | morghus | nymbia: One thing I'm wondering about, the 'Buff: Focus, Target', what're your plans for that one? |
| 10:48.46 | abbat-w | nymbia, patch come today? |
| 10:48.50 | nymbia | morghus: how do you mean? |
| 10:48.55 | nymbia | abbat-w: yeah |
| 10:49.04 | Gagorian | nymbia: Can't recall seeing that |
| 10:49.24 | nymbia | Gagorian: i think it doesnt actually happen sometimes, heh ;) |
| 10:49.36 | sbu | oh and nymbia - is it possible to also alpha 30% items you cant use in combat? (water, food, ...) - and i agree with Gagorian, i didnt see any faded out healthstone yet :p |
| 10:49.47 | morghus | nymbia: Do you intend to flesh it out more so it can "replace" other target-buff/debuff addons? |
| 10:50.02 | Gagorian | Well, actually now that you mention it. I've probably seen it once. Most of the time there's no change :) |
| 10:50.24 | nymbia | morghus: maybe. it really depends on if i can get it fairly accurate without nasty combat log parsing |
| 10:51.38 | morghus | nymbia: Isn't there a buff/debuff API now with 2.1 you can use? |
| 10:52.01 | nymbia | morghus: that's what it uses, but it only works on units you're aware of |
| 10:52.26 | Gagorian | sbu: Well, I guess easiest option would be allowing to set a tag to alpha a category in combat. Since there's no listing which are and are not usable in combat' |
| 10:52.30 | Gandharva | Is it possible to increase the range of Aloft? I would like to see the bars earlier. |
| 10:52.52 | sbu | Gagorian: hm - there isnt something like isUsable? |
| 10:53.12 | sbu | to see if itemID is usable at the moment? |
| 10:53.17 | morghus | nymbia: It's not possible to store those you are aware of when targeting? |
| 10:54.24 | Gagorian | sbu: well there's the API for it but I've never tested if it actually returns different for foodstuffs in combat |
| 10:54.50 | Gagorian | I've assumed it's just to test if the item actually has an use effect |
| 10:55.21 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r38581 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: |
| 10:55.21 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:55.21 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Fish |
| 10:55.22 | sbu | hm okay, autobar uses (["noncombat"] = true) a flag for each category |
| 10:56.04 | sbu | hm, EJ down? |
| 10:56.04 | Gagorian | Seems like I presumed then |
| 10:57.30 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_060507_125420.jpg <-yay! |
| 10:57.35 | nymbia | morghus: the best we could do is scan party targets |
| 10:57.36 | Fisker- | it's almost done |
| 10:57.38 | Fisker- | and without a crash |
| 10:58.04 | Fisker- | 7msg nymbia you're gonna make a gamemaster ticket fubar plugin or else... |
| 10:58.08 | Fisker- | omg mistell!1 |
| 10:58.14 | nymbia | rofl |
| 10:58.20 | Recluse | lol |
| 10:59.26 | Kinkx | Fisker-, a fubar plugin that opens up the gamemaster ticket display? |
| 10:59.54 | Kinkx | ./gm is pretty fast, I like it :) |
| 10:59.56 | Fisker- | one that removes the current ticket display, and integrates it into a fubar plugin instead :F |
| 11:00.51 | abbat-w | hhmm.. nymbia, it's .us patch, not .eu ;) |
| 11:01.04 | Fisker- | eu isn't getting it until tomorrow |
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| 11:01.58 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r38582 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: |
| 11:01.58 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:01.58 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Herbs |
| 11:02.45 | morghus | nymbia: I can see how that'd be troublesome for the buffs. Combat log parsing takes a performance-hit? |
| 11:02.56 | Fisker- | or cute kitty aka bloodhound whatever way you wanna turn it :P |
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| 11:06.53 | nymbia | this diff is hilarious. |
| 11:07.46 | nymbia | http://ace.pastey.net/51540 |
| 11:07.56 | nymbia | vhaarr: ^ |
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| 11:08.49 | vhaarr | wth :P |
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| 11:09.40 | vhaarr | okay, that was useless ^^ |
| 11:09.46 | Fisker- | what's fun about it nymbia ? |
| 11:09.59 | Wobin | ? |
| 11:10.04 | Jaxon | Fisker-: nothing really changed aside from the orders of some of the strings. |
| 11:10.05 | nymbia | there's not a single change |
| 11:10.06 | nymbia | at all |
| 11:10.07 | sbu | mh nymbia, dont tell me its 2.1.1 changes? |
| 11:10.13 | nymbia | just line number shuffling |
| 11:10.22 | Wobin | just everything shifting around a bit |
| 11:10.24 | kenlyric | sigh... patch note missing... "your server will crash every day at exactly 10:27pm. |
| 11:10.31 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 11:10.49 | Fisker- | even funnier when you read them |
| 11:10.55 | kenlyric | errr +not |
| 11:11.02 | Fisker- | some are numbered and they remove them and correctly order them 1-whatever |
| 11:11.11 | Wobin | kenlyric: It's a hidden buff =P |
| 11:11.12 | Fisker- | then on some of the lines they order them 2-3-4-1 |
| 11:11.14 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 11:12.05 | CIA-22 | 03nimbal * r38583 10Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2.lua Buffalo2_Container.lua): |
| 11:12.05 | CIA-22 | Buffalo2: |
| 11:12.05 | CIA-22 | - Fixed resetting to center |
| 11:12.16 | kenlyric | Wobin, I suspect it's a daily quest to slow down progression. |
| 11:13.26 | Wobin | It's easier than locking down the accounts to a few hours a go =) |
| 11:14.19 | Adys | Does AGUF calculate target's health independently or is it MobHealth3 that's just working along with it? |
| 11:15.50 | Wobin | MH3 I think |
| 11:16.06 | Adys | mh, ok |
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| 11:22.18 | Gngsk | boo, my game won't patch |
| 11:22.40 | Fisker- | i heard nymbia can fix your problems Gnarfoz |
| 11:22.43 | Fisker- | Gngsk |
| 11:22.47 | Gngsk | for realz? |
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| 11:23.06 | Gngsk | one of my MPQ files isn't the right size, prolly explains why I've been crashing when some models fail to load |
| 11:23.13 | Gngsk | but running repair on the data/cache didn't help :\ |
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| 11:24.16 | Fisker- | nope :P |
| 11:24.22 | Fisker- | you'll pretty much have to reinstall |
| 11:24.48 | Gngsk | sweet, I totally just deleted all my patch files like two days ago! |
| 11:25.28 | Psyker7 | heh, lucky you |
| 11:25.55 | nymbia | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ is your friend ;) |
| 11:26.22 | Silviu- | U can download full WoW-2.1.0-enGB-patch.exe |
| 11:26.29 | Silviu- | 529 MB |
| 11:28.15 | Gngsk | can't wait |
| 11:28.40 | Gngsk | but then my stuff will be spelt colour instead of color? |
| 11:28.44 | Gngsk | and have a weird british accent? |
| 11:29.02 | Fisker- | http://www.fileplanet.com/177215/170000/fileinfo/World-of-Warcraft-Patch-v2.1.0-Full-(The-Black-Temple) |
| 11:29.08 | Fisker- | for the US one |
| 11:29.11 | Gngsk | ahh, thx |
| 11:29.15 | Gngsk | no fish and chips for me |
| 11:30.04 | Fisker- | not member? |
| 11:30.21 | Recluse | any ace addons that expand the number of available macro slots? |
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| 11:30.52 | Fisker- | i can host it for you in 10 minutes Gngsk |
| 11:31.00 | Gngsk | ok |
| 11:31.41 | Gngsk | so should I totally uninstall the game first? |
| 11:32.49 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r38584 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 11:32.49 | CIA-22 | RatingBuster: |
| 11:32.49 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.56 | Fisker- | i would |
| 11:32.57 | Fisker- | and reinstall |
| 11:33.10 | Fisker- | If you get any errors i would recommend downloading the client from Blizzard |
| 11:33.20 | Fisker- | else you're just gonna keep getting the same problem |
| 11:34.28 | Gngsk | so with that full 2.1.0 patch I just have to install vanilla wow and then patch |
| 11:34.33 | Gngsk | no BC install after vanilla wow? |
| 11:34.59 | Fisker- | you should install BC and then the patch |
| 11:35.06 | Gngsk | k |
| 11:35.11 | Fisker- | Installing BC will revert to 2.03 or so |
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| 11:35.28 | Fisker- | you might be able to cut down on the patch size though |
| 11:35.38 | nymbia | that page i linked has the US full patcher too btw ;p |
| 11:35.56 | Fisker- | oh |
| 11:36.02 | nymbia | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/patches/2.1.0/WoW-2.1.0-enUS-patch.exe |
| 11:36.07 | Fisker- | i confused the 2.0->2.1 |
| 11:36.17 | Fisker- | but obviously he wouldn't need any 1.x->2.x when BC does that |
| 11:36.36 | nymbia | indeed |
| 11:36.53 | Fisker- | anyways my site has it in a minute or so :P |
| 11:36.58 | Fisker- | I think we're both just as fast |
| 11:37.09 | Fisker- | but i doubt you have 100Mbit anyways :P |
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| 11:38.58 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/wow2.1/WoW-2.1.0-enUS-patch.exe |
| 11:39.15 | Gngsk | too slow! |
| 11:39.23 | Gngsk | already downloading the german one |
| 11:39.33 | striper | Funkeh there? |
| 11:40.40 | Fisker- | QQ Gngsk |
| 11:40.45 | Gngsk | thx though |
| 11:40.51 | Fisker- | nah don't thank me |
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| 11:41.00 | Fisker- | you can thank me when my bandwitdh bill arrives in your mailbox |
| 11:41.03 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:41.20 | striper | hmmm... any Babble devs there? |
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| 11:45.17 | Gngsk | just great |
| 11:45.34 | Gngsk | electrician just told me he's gotta turn the power off for a few hours |
| 11:45.38 | Gngsk | so I can't even finish this install! |
| 11:45.50 | morghus | >< |
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| 11:46.26 | Fisker- | i lol'd! |
| 11:46.30 | Fisker- | see you later Gngsk |
| 11:46.40 | Gngsk | gonna finish installing vanilla wow at least |
| 11:46.51 | Gngsk | on the bright side the whole power block is getting upgraded, so that's good |
| 11:47.08 | Gngsk | thing is like 30 years old, heh |
| 11:47.20 | nymbia | lol |
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| 11:59.20 | Fisker- | lol |
| 11:59.20 | Fisker- | a GM saying that a tauren is too big to ride a raptor :D |
| 11:59.20 | Fisker- | in before getting pwned |
| 11:59.20 | Bibi`ouF | I know how you feel when you're too big to ride. |
| 11:59.20 | Recluse | i know, i want a chicken for my elf T_T |
| 11:59.20 | Bibi`ouF | anyone know a good online anti virus scan ? |
| 11:59.20 | Recluse | those dwarves are stocky and *must* weigh more than a skinny elf girl but they get to ride em |
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| 12:00.44 | nymbia | what the hell |
| 12:00.45 | nymbia | ~smite curse |
| 12:00.59 | purl | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves curse from crown to sole. |
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| 12:01.03 | Wobin | Mac: "Hi, I'm a mac!" PC: "And I'm a PC" Mac: "Whatcha doin PC?" PC: "Oh, I'm playing a game." Mac: "Really? Which one?" PC: "Any of them." Mac: "Oh." |
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| 12:01.04 | Recluse | hehehe |
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| 12:01.34 | nymbia | purl, you suck |
| 12:01.36 | purl | and very well I might add |
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| 12:02.02 | Fisker- | nymbia, you suck! |
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| 12:05.18 | nymbia | Fisker-: NO U |
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| 12:13.14 | Ordog | is somebody here affilated or employed by an us hoster/isp ? :) |
| 12:13.40 | Fisker- | NO U nymbia :( |
| 12:13.44 | Fisker- | i want a fubar plugin :( |
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| 12:14.55 | Kirkburn | Has the internet just given up today? |
| 12:15.38 | Kirkburn | Or are people just trigger happy with disconnects? |
| 12:15.41 | Fisker- | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/ :D |
| 12:16.57 | Kirkburn | You would like that, wouldn't you :) |
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| 12:18.43 | Kirkburn | Anyone on here got a netherdrake? |
| 12:20.33 | abbat-w | me |
| 12:20.40 | abbat-w | cobalt netherdrake ;) |
| 12:21.50 | Ordog | hm does wau hang itself on version check for you too? |
| 12:22.32 | Fisker- | Yeah mine just took out a chair and got a rope to hang itself with |
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| 12:22.50 | Fisker- | but other than that, no |
| 12:22.51 | Ordog | srys i was influenced by the sad little horse in that comic ^^ |
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| 12:37.39 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r38585 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Use the addon channel directly for version queries. |
| 12:38.46 | Kirkburn | "There is actually a bug with shapeshifting and herb gathering, but only regarding the flight form. Currently it's possible to gather herbs while in flight form, which is not intended. This will be corrected in a coming patch." |
| 12:39.11 | Wobin | hurrah? =( |
| 12:39.23 | Wobin | bah, in flight form you have claws |
| 12:39.28 | Wobin | You should be able to get herbs |
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| 12:41.35 | alext | yeah wtf |
| 12:41.39 | alext | in cat/bear you can loot |
| 12:41.44 | Kirkburn | It's completely OP |
| 12:41.45 | alext | and get herbs if i am not mistaken... ? |
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| 12:41.56 | alext | i dont have a druid herbalist so i am not sure |
| 12:41.57 | Kirkburn | You can hover 10 feet above the herb and get ZERO aggro :/ |
| 12:42.01 | alext | haha |
| 12:42.03 | alext | thats awsome |
| 12:42.15 | alext | so epic flight form druids are now the fastest herb gatherers huh |
| 12:42.17 | SaisGwaith | Yeah, I've herb gathered in bear-form |
| 12:42.18 | Kirkburn | No downtime, epic speed >_< |
| 12:42.31 | alext | i wish they would leave it alone |
| 12:42.36 | alext | its not really a big deal |
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| 12:42.58 | alext | it makes sense that a bird can pick up and grasp shit, hell they build nests |
| 12:42.58 | SaisGwaith | Where do one's bags go when in shapeshifted form? ;D |
| 12:43.01 | alext | no reason they cant get herbs |
| 12:43.07 | alext | ballsacks? |
| 12:43.12 | alext | if their male |
| 12:43.21 | SaisGwaith | :P |
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| 12:44.04 | SaisGwaith | Might be a bit painful stuffing a looted sword into that... |
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| 12:45.26 | alext | it has extra padding to prevent punctures |
| 12:49.18 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r38587 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Shuffle some code around. |
| 12:49.22 | vhaarr | dammit |
| 12:49.42 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r38588 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Bugfix. |
| 12:49.45 | vhaarr | I'm done, I swear. |
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| 12:50.02 | [Ammo] | ha! I've beaten down SWS sync |
| 12:50.06 | [Ammo] | it lives! |
| 12:50.06 | vhaarr | lol |
| 12:50.09 | vhaarr | SHOW ME THE MONEY |
| 12:50.12 | [Ammo] | slapped into SUBMISSION |
| 12:50.33 | [Ammo] | with intelligent use of the following temp tables: dungpile, dirtpile, poopile |
| 12:50.38 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 12:51.15 | Kirkburn | vhaarr, about that note for slouken ... er, can you write it? |
| 12:51.25 | Kirkburn | I'm still in the middle of exams >< |
| 12:51.32 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: I don't even remember what it was. |
| 12:51.36 | vhaarr | and you're not the only one |
| 12:51.39 | Kirkburn | Tainting |
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| 12:51.47 | Kirkburn | Eep, you got them too? :( |
| 12:51.52 | vhaarr | who doesn't |
| 12:52.00 | Kirkburn | your mom |
| 12:52.07 | vhaarr | true :< |
| 12:52.15 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 12:52.36 | Kirkburn | Good luck with your btw, right now I just want to sleep |
| 12:53.07 | Kirkburn | (I got up at 1am to revise. As you do) |
| 12:53.28 | vhaarr | hehe thanks |
| 12:53.34 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: SHOW ME! |
| 12:53.37 | vhaarr | >< |
| 12:53.45 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: I can't drycode commit it :p |
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| 12:53.50 | [Ammo] | I changed something around |
| 12:53.52 | vhaarr | sure you can |
| 12:53.52 | [Ammo] | which I need to test now |
| 12:53.53 | [Ammo] | first |
| 12:53.54 | vhaarr | who cares |
| 12:53.57 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:53.59 | vhaarr | :P |
| 12:55.31 | Kirkburn | In that case, someone else, I need you to post on the US forums for me! Essentially the stuff in the first part of Design.lua (now commented out) taints the new MT and MA stuff (at least I think it's that). I could post the lines, but you can just look at the file :P |
| 12:56.13 | xt | [Ammo]: nice! How far are you from commiting it ? |
| 12:56.29 | Kirkburn | Now why did I make that plural? I ain't no hug-slut :( |
| 12:56.36 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: pasted exactly what you want posted and i'll do it |
| 12:56.37 | [Ammo] | xt: 5 mins hopefully |
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| 12:56.54 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, do you use CF? |
| 12:57.07 | Kirkburn | Or at least access to the files |
| 12:57.17 | Josh_Borke | only what i can get from the web |
| 12:57.31 | nevcairiel | its not only MT/MA stuff, it taints the drop down menu in general |
| 12:57.56 | Kirkburn | I submit to nevcairiel's better knowledge :P |
| 12:58.21 | Adirelle | [Ammo] I'm impatient (sp? is it even english ?) to see that |
| 12:58.24 | nevcairiel | but i think MT/MA is the only secure commands from that menu |
| 12:58.25 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r38589 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Unregister RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE from UIParent when blizzard party frames are disabled, hopefully stops the freezing - thanks to Zek for the tip. |
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| 12:58.32 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, if you look at the start of the ClearFont Design.lua file, the offending lines are those commented out in section B |
| 12:59.30 | Kirkburn | Stuff like UNIT_NAME_FONT down to UIDROPDOWNMENU_... - they all cause the problem apparently |
| 13:00.00 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, why does it affect the non dropdown stuff? |
| 13:00.14 | Zurk | Quick question, do I need threat1.0 if I want to use Omen? |
| 13:00.41 | Neebler | no |
| 13:01.01 | Zurk | Thanks, any reason in using it if I'm not a developer? |
| 13:01.05 | Kirkburn | As background, the same problem once occured during the BC beta, but was fixed |
| 13:01.07 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: what non-drop-down stuff? |
| 13:01.10 | Neebler | none. it's a library |
| 13:01.23 | Zurk | Ah, ok, thanks |
| 13:01.25 | Neebler | already 'embedded' in omen in the /libs/ directory |
| 13:01.32 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, stuff like UNIT_NAME_FONT, which just does nameplates, afaik |
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| 13:01.57 | nevcairiel | maybe its used in that function once |
| 13:01.58 | nevcairiel | lemme check |
| 13:02.20 | Kirkburn | They all appear to be connected somehow as the beta issue was with the exact same lines :/ |
| 13:02.45 | Kirkburn | I think it was the pet dismiss issue |
| 13:02.54 | nevcairiel | i just discovered super rejuv potion |
| 13:02.57 | nevcairiel | what a crappy recipe |
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| 13:03.08 | Kirkburn | zomg, /golfclap ? |
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| 13:03.40 | vhaarr | yeah I have that one as well |
| 13:03.42 | vhaarr | >< |
| 13:03.59 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: http://wowace.pastey.net/51631 |
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| 13:04.38 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, yup, thems the ones :) |
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| 13:05.43 | nevcairiel | UNIT_NAME_FONT is not referenced once in the FrameXML files |
| 13:05.44 | Kirkburn | bbiab, hope nev finds something intriguing :P |
| 13:05.48 | Kirkburn | huh |
| 13:05.55 | nevcairiel | its only in Fonts.xml |
| 13:06.10 | hypetech | I'm so tired of realms randomly being down when I go to get on -.- |
| 13:06.11 | Kirkburn | Well, that's hardly not once =) |
| 13:06.20 | nevcairiel | thats the definition |
| 13:06.23 | nevcairiel | not a reference :P |
| 13:06.28 | Kirkburn | haha |
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| 13:06.41 | Kirkburn | Well, that's no help whatsoever :/ |
| 13:06.42 | nevcairiel | nah its only defined there once |
| 13:06.44 | nevcairiel | and not used ever |
| 13:06.51 | nevcairiel | sure having it active taints? |
| 13:07.22 | Kirkburn | But it has to be used somehow, cause it affects the names above heads |
| 13:07.39 | nevcairiel | name plate code isnt in the FrameXML |
| 13:07.42 | nevcairiel | its somewhere deeper |
| 13:07.43 | Kirkburn | vhaarr said it did, iirc (plus it did the same in beta) |
| 13:08.14 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: In order to find what tainted, I was just commenting out entire blocks of Design.lua. |
| 13:08.38 | vhaarr | But I think I ended up testing each of the ones I commented out individually. |
| 13:08.50 | vhaarr | when I found the block that caused it |
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| 13:08.55 | vhaarr | anyway, I don't care |
| 13:08.55 | Kirkburn | It wouldn't surprise me if it was them all again |
| 13:09.01 | Kirkburn | :< |
| 13:13.21 | [Ammo] | grrr my sws testing buddy went offline |
| 13:13.37 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 13:13.48 | [Ammo] | just when I was about to smack the last bug |
| 13:14.44 | abbat-w | Ammo, you are warlock btw. Do you remember difference between you first CoA ticks and lasts? |
| 13:15.01 | [Ammo] | ofcourse |
| 13:15.07 | [Ammo] | it increases in damage every 3 ticks |
| 13:15.12 | abbat-w | What numbers for you? |
| 13:15.19 | [Ammo] | no clue |
| 13:15.40 | abbat-w | ah, ok |
| 13:16.05 | Gagorian | I remember trying it sometime, if I recall correctly it wasn't even fractions |
| 13:16.22 | Gagorian | so no clean way to express it |
| 13:16.48 | Gagorian | I can actually check it. Sec |
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| 13:21.59 | CIA-22 | 03kebinusan * r38590 10Tattle/ (15 files in 15 dirs): Tattle: Weekly scripted update of US Data |
| 13:22.17 | Gagorian | 251/352/454 |
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| 13:25.31 | [FH]Birdemani | quick question: when using ora/sraid are you not allowed to use the bliz MT windows for the rest of the raid? I keep getting a protected frame warning |
| 13:26.14 | sbu | i dont even see the option to set mt ;p |
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| 13:27.34 | Saroz | [FH]Birdemani it's another addon blocking it |
| 13:27.39 | Saroz | update |
| 13:27.53 | Saroz | was ClearFont2 for me |
| 13:27.55 | [FH]Birdemani | i tend to update every night before i play |
| 13:28.03 | [FH]Birdemani | and found it was happening last night |
| 13:28.07 | Saroz | it's not ora2 or sraid, I use both, works fine |
| 13:28.13 | [FH]Birdemani | but i will reinstall cf2 |
| 13:28.46 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, dunno if you've been able to yet, but are you able to make a note out of the stuff we spouted earlier? |
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| 13:31.05 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 13:31.21 | Josh_Borke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108214859&sid=1= |
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| 13:31.25 | Josh_Borke | minus the trailing = |
| 13:32.23 | sbu | i cant remove clear font since it would screw up my sRF fonts :/ (-> unreadable) |
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| 13:32.32 | Josh_Borke | you didn't give me any guidance and i'm busy working :-D let me know if you want me to change anything |
| 13:33.23 | sbu | Kirkburn: is that good or bad code? :p |
| 13:35.15 | sbu | and there are still tainting issues :/ |
| 13:35.25 | sbu | even w/o CF |
| 13:37.39 | Loki|muh | someone a idea what IP means mathematically? round up? round down? |
| 13:38.01 | Loki|muh | i have something like this here M = IP(x+150/75) |
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| 13:38.53 | sbu | hm probability? |
| 13:39.53 | Megalon | mhm |
| 13:40.09 | Loki|muh | no, no probability, its the translation from logical block values to minute/second/frame format for compact discs ;) |
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| 13:44.57 | Tuyk | - Stackable items retrieved from mail will no longer automatically |
| 13:44.59 | Tuyk | stack in your inventory. This has been disabled pending a future |
| 13:45.01 | Tuyk | patch fix. |
| 13:45.03 | Tuyk | - Players will no longer see the flickering terrain issues that were |
| 13:45.23 | Tuyk | introduced with 2.1.0 when the LOD system is enabled. |
| 13:45.23 | Tuyk | grr i hate the way that happens |
| 13:45.23 | sbu | hm? |
| 13:45.35 | Tuyk | i mean about the flickering |
| 13:45.46 | Tuyk | was annoying |
| 13:45.51 | Kalman| | I hate the loss of auto-stacking. :/ |
| 13:45.57 | Megalon | :D |
| 13:45.57 | Tuyk | yeh me to, anyone know why? |
| 13:46.37 | Punkie` | apparently there was a bug in some occasions where items would be destroyed, not stacked |
| 13:46.47 | Tuyk | o.0 |
| 13:48.33 | Punkie` | I did see a post on the wow europe forums about someone who bought a stack of 30 odd arcane tomes from the AH, opened them from the mail, he heard the sound of them stacking with the 2 he had in his inv and they were gone :p |
| 13:48.52 | cs-cam | ouch... |
| 13:49.17 | sbu | Loki|muh: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:l1Yb-XtO5eYJ:fresh.t-systems-sfr.com/linux/src/xine-lib-1.0.3a.tar.gz:t/xine-lib-1.0.3/src/input/vcd/libcdio/sector.c+cdio_lsn_to_msf <-- does that help? :p |
| 13:49.35 | sbu | hmm |
| 13:49.47 | sbu | okay, so no more reagents for me ;p |
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| 13:50.31 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r38591 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBars.lua Buttons.lua Core.lua Defaults.lua): Bartender4: reworked button creation logic and added default positions to the initial bar setup |
| 13:50.55 | Loki|muh | sbu: seems to be helpful, thanks |
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| 13:50.57 | hypetech | wtf is bartender4? |
| 13:51.10 | Iceroth_ | anyone got notes for 2.1.1? |
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| 13:51.41 | Tupsi | 4? |
| 13:51.54 | Punkie` | hypetech: I think it's a little obvious what it is? :p |
| 13:52.10 | vodrin | it ends bart |
| 13:52.13 | Neebler | it's an addon that beats WoW for you |
| 13:54.50 | yacoob | hypetech, it's way better than bt3, that's for sure. |
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| 13:54.51 | Neebler | it's not usable yet |
| 13:54.51 | Neebler | give it a week |
| 13:54.51 | nevcairiel | not sure about that |
| 13:54.51 | nevcairiel | i am on a lan party on the weekend |
| 13:54.51 | nevcairiel | no time for coding |
| 13:54.51 | sbu | uhm - you play... offline? |
| 13:54.52 | nevcairiel | we dont play |
| 13:54.52 | evl | buffy lan? |
| 13:54.52 | nevcairiel | its more party then lan, actually |
| 13:54.52 | sbu | ahh beer ;p |
| 13:54.52 | Herio | beer ftl |
| 13:54.58 | nevcairiel | i prefer other drinks myself tho |
| 13:54.58 | Herio | give me a fifth of vodka and a half gallon of orange juice imo |
| 13:55.06 | nevcairiel | that sounds good |
| 13:55.08 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:55.34 | winkiller | alcoholics :< |
| 13:55.36 | Herio | kinda girly... but green apple smirrnoff makes good screwdrivers :d |
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| 13:55.57 | Herio | I go to a renown party school |
| 13:56.04 | Herio | =P |
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| 13:57.37 | Herio | when I was a freshman, on Friday nights you could step out the door and there'd be 3-4 parties in earshot >.> |
| 14:00.14 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, well, you could explain that those sections have had to be commented out due to the tainting issue? |
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| 14:01.04 | Kirkburn | (ta for the post btw) |
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| 14:02.00 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: i'm looking more for what you want me to post exactly :-P |
| 14:02.31 | Kirkburn | But I'm useless :( |
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| 14:03.10 | Kirkburn | Okay how about "As a result of 2.1, the following sections had to be commented out of ClearFont2 due to tainting issues." |
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| 14:03.38 | Kirkburn | And er, some sort of sentence pleading for it to be looked at :P |
| 14:03.59 | Kirkburn | Related to the new MT and MA stuff |
| 14:04.20 | Neebler | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/goodies.shtml |
| 14:05.04 | hypetech | about how much do tickets to blizzcon run? |
| 14:05.06 | hypetech | anybody know? |
| 14:05.20 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108214859&postId=1082154001&sid=1#0 |
| 14:05.36 | yacoob | Neebler, please, blizzgods, change the /dance when in suit... :D |
| 14:05.47 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, haha, great |
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| 14:06.13 | Zurk | So yeah, Bartender4. What's up with that? |
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| 14:07.35 | hypetech | It is a pain in the ass to see which end is netherspite's ass while he's banished -.- |
| 14:09.17 | Herio | why do you need to know? o.o |
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| 14:11.20 | Fisker- | hypetech i believe it was around 100$ the last time |
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| 14:12.06 | hypetech | Herio: so you don't get his breath |
| 14:12.10 | BankZ | Is PitBull_Threat kinda like KTM? |
| 14:12.20 | Tupsi | omen more like it |
| 14:12.27 | hypetech | anybody know what the third hostage executed is for in SH heroic? |
| 14:12.38 | Fisker- | quests |
| 14:12.43 | BankZ | Atunment to TK |
| 14:12.50 | Fisker- | Trial of the Naaru: Mercy and Escape from the citadel |
| 14:12.55 | hypetech | first one is for the axe, second one is for the sewer quest, what's the third one for? |
| 14:12.59 | hypetech | no, that's the first 2 hostages |
| 14:13.09 | Herio | hypetech: my raid just ran away from him |
| 14:13.11 | Josh_Borke | your mom |
| 14:13.16 | BankZ | whats omen do? |
| 14:13.18 | Fisker- | You can complete the sewer quest within all 3 hostages |
| 14:13.23 | hypetech | aaah |
| 14:13.32 | hypetech | Herio: that doesn't complete the quest :p |
| 14:13.32 | Tupsi | bankz what did you ask for it to do? |
| 14:13.49 | Herio | hypetech: quest? |
| 14:14.03 | BankZ | Tupsi: Im trying to figure out what PitBull_Threat is, lol |
| 14:14.04 | hypetech | for the unused axe of the executioner for TK |
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| 14:14.39 | Herio | BankZ: probably some sort of Threat-1.0 integration |
| 14:14.53 | Gagorian | BankZ: Well threatmeter + unitframe addon -> Unitframe with threat display. Easy! |
| 14:15.22 | Tupsi | not sure how to read it though, i mean integrated in pitbull |
| 14:15.42 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r38592 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: add SWS sync reading. Warning: Reading the code can damage your eyes. |
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| 14:15.55 | abyssichate | Yay! |
| 14:15.56 | Tupsi | which was confusing me anyway last night when suddenly a focus's target poped up in my face |
| 14:17.24 | Kirkburn | It's going to be integrated into Pitbull at some point |
| 14:17.31 | Kirkburn | Something similar, anyway |
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| 14:17.39 | BankZ | Gagorian: ok, so I was right, kinda like KTM on raid frames |
| 14:17.46 | BankZ | very cool |
| 14:17.54 | sbu | [Ammo]: ohh... thats pretty nice |
| 14:18.01 | [Ammo] | I wouldn't call it nice |
| 14:18.05 | Tupsi | haha |
| 14:18.06 | [Ammo] | I would call it a PILE OF POO |
| 14:18.07 | sbu | well the functionality |
| 14:18.12 | [Ammo] | but it works |
| 14:18.18 | sbu | havent seen the code yet ;p |
| 14:18.27 | Tupsi | ammo: we are just mere mortals, we dont care :-) |
| 14:18.36 | Kirkburn | Speak for yourself! |
| 14:18.36 | Herio | pile of poo, eh? |
| 14:18.45 | Saroz | + dungpile = del(dungpile) |
| 14:18.45 | Kirkburn | I ain't no "mortal" |
| 14:18.47 | Saroz | LOOOL |
| 14:18.48 | BankZ | what is a pilke of poo? |
| 14:18.50 | Tupsi | pile of poo sounds good anyway |
| 14:18.55 | BankZ | *pile |
| 14:18.59 | sbu | [Ammo]: mhh - but wtf, how does it handle sws data? |
| 14:19.08 | [Ammo] | that's a secret |
| 14:19.11 | Kirkburn | It's a dish that's best served warm, BankZ |
| 14:19.23 | Kirkburn | Quite nutty, I hear |
| 14:19.30 | sbu | because there could also be recorded damage from you/other violation users? |
| 14:19.57 | [Ammo] | sbu: I'm smart kthxbye |
| 14:20.02 | sbu | okay :p |
| 14:20.05 | Tupsi | its a ruse |
| 14:20.12 | Herio | ... too smart |
| 14:20.22 | Tupsi | to take over every sws user |
| 14:20.39 | Gagorian | It actually sends out synching messages to tell users to delete SWS and install Violation.. Perhaps then a few hours later it gets proper data back |
| 14:20.44 | Herio | sws is a masterfece |
| 14:20.46 | Herio | I hate it |
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| 14:21.54 | BankZ | So Violation now syncs with SW Stats? |
| 14:22.01 | [Ammo] | no |
| 14:22.04 | [Ammo] | it reads SWS data |
| 14:22.07 | [Ammo] | which is good enough |
| 14:22.43 | BankZ | so if others are running it, I get thier data but they dont get mine? |
| 14:22.43 | Herio | http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/062305/masterfece.gif |
| 14:22.57 | abyssichate | so, if you are in a raid where people mostly use SWS and you are hte only one with Violation, it'll work wonders |
| 14:23.04 | BankZ | Thats worth tring cuz SW Stats seems like a pig |
| 14:23.06 | [Ammo] | basically yeah |
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| 14:23.19 | abyssichate | I'll test it at tonight's raid |
| 14:23.45 | BankZ | Does it use a lot less memory than SW Stats? |
| 14:23.46 | Kirkburn | What is it about you silly americans, it's spelt "faeces" :/ |
| 14:23.54 | snirks | rofl masterfece |
| 14:24.11 | Kirkburn | You know I actually wrote "faeces" in my exam today |
| 14:24.20 | abyssichate | as for shit? |
| 14:24.22 | Kirkburn | And, yes, I meant what it sounds like I meant |
| 14:24.31 | Wobin | It's true |
| 14:24.37 | Kirkburn | Animal faeces to be precise |
| 14:24.38 | Wobin | Americans can't spell =P |
| 14:24.41 | snirks | violation and or omen and or threat-1.0 bugged me out yesterday on Leotheras, during his shapechanges. Anyone have an idea why? |
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| 14:26.37 | Wobin | PS OMG It's "Maths" |
| 14:26.37 | snirks | thought it was faecus |
| 14:26.37 | Kirkburn | I had an exam that was half about sewage and pollution. Mmmmmmmmmm. Oh, also, Wobin is correct. Wobin is ALWAYS correct. |
| 14:26.37 | Kirkburn | thought it was your mom! Haha! /me shuffles off |
| 14:26.37 | kadrahil | oh burn |
| 14:27.15 | snirks | hurtful burn at that :( |
| 14:27.15 | kadrahil | so the fel and the furious got fixed, about time |
| 14:27.17 | Kirkburn | Happy burn! :D :D :D |
| 14:27.18 | snirks | it is best to always target the person you are talking to, rather than familymembers which may or may not be alive |
| 14:27.39 | snirks | unless you ofc intend to really hurt the person |
| 14:27.39 | Fisker- | Wobin my attempts to threaten nymbia and get a gm ticket fubar plugin made has failed, can i threaten you? :) |
| 14:27.51 | Wobin | Nyet |
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| 14:29.03 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, receiving threats from you is like receiving a package of wool from a purple french baguette. Non-sensical. No, wait, I meant hearing a similie from Kirkburn, etc, etc. |
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| 14:30.49 | Wobin | Almost enough to knit a hoover. |
| 14:32.20 | Kirkburn | A damn cheesy hoover, at that. |
| 14:32.34 | Wobin | It's true |
| 14:32.56 | Kirkburn | With a stripper on top. |
| 14:33.02 | Wobin | It's full of silicon |
| 14:33.03 | Kirkburn | Male, of course. |
| 14:33.09 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 14:33.11 | Wobin | Possibly Tekkub |
| 14:34.09 | Kirkburn | Not to mention the gratuitous umbrella. |
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| 14:34.45 | Wobin | That's correct, you can never forget the inane hippo |
| 14:34.51 | Herio | Fisker-: editing and creating GM tickets are as of 2.1, protected functions |
| 14:34.59 | abyssichate | Does Threat-1.0 in /libs of Omen get updated everytime a new revision of Threat-1.0 is released? |
| 14:35.07 | Fisker- | duh Herio |
| 14:35.25 | Fisker- | But i doubt opening the respective blizzard frames for it is |
| 14:36.04 | Fisker- | just want a fubar plugin that removes the current ticketframe and make me view the status in the fubar panel instead |
| 14:36.29 | Fisker- | And open the make a ticket/edit ticket frames |
| 14:36.52 | Kirkburn | Wobin, the fasting gorilla, you say? But you seem to be forgetting the blow-up devil cakes! |
| 14:36.54 | Wobin | abyssichate: The reference will be updated, The zipfile for Omen will not though |
| 14:37.04 | Wobin | Not until Omen is updated |
| 14:37.36 | Wobin | Kirkburn: You can never underestimate the staying power of a juvenile herptologist. |
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| 14:38.41 | Wobin | As long as your hovercraft is full of eels though, you're in the right elevator car. |
| 14:39.05 | Adirelle | cmon, Violation.lua is heavier than 64kb now :/ |
| 14:39.13 | Kirkburn | Though, one must always remember, you must not delay your chafing lightbasket. |
| 14:39.25 | Wobin | Nobody should need more than 64Kb of memory anyway |
| 14:39.42 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: patience k |
| 14:39.47 | abyssichate | Wobin: thanks |
| 14:39.56 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: with a good editor with codefolding it's no problem :p |
| 14:40.04 | Wobin | Oh man, Kirkburn, the last time that happened the bain marie of doom fell upon an open casket full of oncologists. |
| 14:40.20 | Wobin | Not a pretty sight, I can tell you =\ |
| 14:40.26 | abyssichate | If I've got Omen installed with externals but I install Threat-1.0 anyway, which instance of Threat-1.0 will be loaded? |
| 14:40.42 | Wobin | The latest version |
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| 14:40.49 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: AcceptDataFromSource was meant to be used here : http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Violation/Violation.lua?rev=38592#L2260 |
| 14:41.13 | Adirelle | but I admit that as it ask for a moduleName it isn't adequate for now |
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| 14:41.55 | Adirelle | I'll fix it soon ,the idea was to use it as : self:AcceptDataFromSource(name, modName, sender, SWS_LEVEL) |
| 14:42.03 | [Ammo] | check further down |
| 14:42.08 | Adirelle | so if sender sends data about its pets, they are spied |
| 14:42.12 | Adirelle | I already did |
| 14:42.13 | [Ammo] | the only reason I check there is to bail out faster |
| 14:42.15 | [Ammo] | I ignore pets |
| 14:42.18 | Kirkburn | Wobin, I giveth you the title. You win! >_< |
| 14:42.18 | [Ammo] | I don't care about fucking pets |
| 14:42.22 | Adirelle | I do |
| 14:42.26 | Kirkburn | Anti-bestality, are we? |
| 14:42.30 | [Ammo] | feel free to figure out how SWS handles it |
| 14:42.32 | [Ammo] | good luck |
| 14:42.36 | Kirkburn | *bestiality |
| 14:42.38 | [Ammo] | it already gave me a splitting headache |
| 14:43.11 | Adirelle | basic assumption is that it is handled and sent as individual character |
| 14:43.18 | [Ammo] | SWS sends syncs for random partymembers everytime it syncs for itself |
| 14:43.22 | [Ammo] | and for NPCs |
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| 14:43.28 | [Ammo] | it basically spams the crap out of the channel |
| 14:43.34 | [Ammo] | hence I bail out early |
| 14:43.38 | [Ammo] | and decide to screw pets |
| 14:44.04 | [Ammo] | I'm working on cleaning up the code though |
| 14:44.09 | Adirelle | yeah, I know, I did the same from DM in earlier implementation, then I added AcceptDataFromSource to take care of this |
| 14:44.31 | Adirelle | this method miss a "module-free" form |
| 14:44.37 | Adirelle | s/miss/misseS/ |
| 14:44.40 | [Ammo] | the problem is you have to do a lot more calculating |
| 14:44.43 | Herio | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6522.msg108385#new |
| 14:44.43 | [Ammo] | and modulefree form won't work |
| 14:44.50 | Herio | interesting idea, no? |
| 14:44.54 | [Ammo] | since someone can not have the Healing module enabled |
| 14:45.01 | [Ammo] | then their Healing data is read from SWS for instance |
| 14:45.28 | [Ammo] | but I blame SWS, it's a pile of poo |
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| 14:46.38 | Adirelle | right... |
| 14:47.15 | [Ammo] | I could just remove the whole name == sender check |
| 14:47.22 | [Ammo] | and let it trickle down to the module handling |
| 14:47.35 | [Ammo] | and do the name, ... sender thing there |
| 14:47.43 | [Ammo] | within the AcceptData check |
| 14:47.59 | Adirelle | yeap... but I agree it's a bit heavy |
| 14:48.00 | [Ammo] | but I think there will be a fuckload of calculation done then every SWS message that is not needed |
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| 14:49.02 | [Ammo] | I'm reworking the code a bit to be more extensible for SWS |
| 14:49.10 | [Ammo] | because it's tailored towards this goal only atm |
| 14:49.27 | [Ammo] | the current implementation grew organically |
| 14:49.29 | [Ammo] | but works :) |
| 14:49.40 | Adirelle | hmm... err... wait... who wants to enable BOTH swsstats and violation at the same time and then disable one module of violation ??? |
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| 14:49.55 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: nono.. |
| 14:50.01 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: someone might have violation only |
| 14:50.06 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: and the Healing module disabled |
| 14:50.18 | [Ammo] | then a 3rd person with SWS can feed the other violations with healing data |
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| 14:50.28 | [Ammo] | for that person |
| 14:50.31 | Adirelle | no |
| 14:50.36 | [Ammo] | yes it can |
| 14:50.37 | Adirelle | AcceptDataFromSource will deny that |
| 14:50.42 | [Ammo] | then I'll patch the function |
| 14:50.50 | [Ammo] | since tat user is no Healing violation user |
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| 14:50.54 | [Ammo] | since the module is disabl;ed |
| 14:51.17 | [Ammo] | oh the UserViolation function will return properly, no worries |
| 14:51.21 | [Ammo] | it'll work |
| 14:52.00 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38593 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: Added localization koKR |
| 14:52.03 | Adirelle | in fact, AcceptDataFromSource is a light overlay on UserViolation that takes care of "out of party source/target" and "pet-master" relations |
| 14:52.49 | [Ammo] | I know, but UserViolation will return the correct value when the person with the Healing module disabled is checked |
| 14:52.57 | [Ammo] | since the Healing module for that person is then in COMBATLOG mode |
| 14:53.09 | [Ammo] | -> gets filled from someone with SWS -> goes to SWSlevel |
| 14:53.17 | [Ammo] | and thus works fine for others |
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| 14:54.00 | [Ammo] | I'll try and make it clear |
| 14:54.07 | [Ammo] | person A = violation user with Healing module disabled |
| 14:54.12 | [Ammo] | person B = SWS user |
| 14:54.18 | [Ammo] | person C = violation user with all modules enabled |
| 14:54.24 | Adirelle | ok |
| 14:54.29 | Adirelle | take the point of view of C |
| 14:54.35 | [Ammo] | B sends data for A |
| 14:54.42 | [Ammo] | C receives this data and checks if A is using the healing |
| 14:54.53 | [Ammo] | A isn't so C injects data from B into the healing for A |
| 14:55.04 | [Ammo] | even though A is using violation |
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| 14:55.20 | [Ammo] | ofcourse this will only work if I remove the name == sender check |
| 14:55.21 | Adirelle | that what you want to happen ? |
| 14:55.25 | [Ammo] | ofcourse I want |
| 14:55.37 | [Ammo] | it's what should happen |
| 14:55.44 | [Ammo] | otherwise healing for A will only get filled from the combat log |
| 14:55.47 | Adirelle | why, there's now reason that B"s SWS data would be better that our own combat log parsing ? |
| 14:55.48 | [Ammo] | which is less accurate than SWS |
| 14:55.52 | Adirelle | s/now/no/ |
| 14:56.02 | [Ammo] | SWS only transmits sync'd data |
| 14:56.12 | [Ammo] | which is more accurate than combat log |
| 14:56.25 | [Ammo] | heck, more accurate than DMM :) |
| 14:56.30 | Adirelle | got it |
| 14:56.44 | [Ammo] | hence I put SWS at one level below violation |
| 14:56.47 | [Ammo] | and above DMM |
| 14:57.02 | Adirelle | in this case, AcceptDataFromSource could be worked out to allow this |
| 14:57.10 | [Ammo] | it already does |
| 14:57.14 | [Ammo] | since UserViolation does |
| 14:57.24 | Adirelle | not really, unless you changed it |
| 14:57.39 | [Ammo] | UserViolation does, and ADFS just calls that |
| 14:58.03 | [Ammo] | oh bah |
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| 14:58.14 | Adirelle | characterDataSource[destination] will reject data about A coming from B |
| 14:58.16 | [Ammo] | ok, ditching acceptdatafromsource in my SWS handler |
| 14:58.17 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:58.32 | [Ammo] | I only need a UserViolation check |
| 14:58.40 | [Ammo] | I don't need to do the AcceptData check |
| 14:59.02 | [Ammo] | oh and check my handling of oldValue vs value |
| 14:59.07 | [Ammo] | you might want to do that for DMM as well |
| 14:59.13 | Adirelle | ADFS was mainly meant to be extended in a future version to allow spreading of parsing amongst players |
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| 14:59.49 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 14:59.50 | [Ammo] | well |
| 14:59.54 | [Ammo] | for now SWS sync is reasonably good |
| 15:00.03 | [Ammo] | first I'll clean up the code a bit |
| 15:00.19 | [Ammo] | then we can worry about the intricate syncing issues :) |
| 15:01.01 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r38594 10Bartender4/Bartender4/Defaults.lua: Bartender4: generate the default action ids instead of feeding 10 lines of numbers into the file |
| 15:01.13 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38595 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: Remove cmd from koKR |
| 15:01.40 | Tuyk | nevcairiel: BT4? whats new? |
| 15:01.45 | Adirelle | about handling of oldValue in DMM, oldValue should be set to 0 when we receive a reset requests |
| 15:02.21 | Adirelle | but instead of filling session data with 0, I prefered another approach, testing the session id |
| 15:02.33 | BankZ | Bartender4? nice! |
| 15:02.37 | [Ammo] | the problem with SWS is it doesn't reset it's data |
| 15:02.41 | Adirelle | in short : if we have a session id but no value, it is an implied 0 (we received a regular reset) |
| 15:02.43 | [Ammo] | but that's what I'll rework |
| 15:02.49 | [Ammo] | I can't imply 0 |
| 15:02.54 | [Ammo] | because then someone sends 123456 |
| 15:03.06 | [Ammo] | because they never send 0 |
| 15:03.14 | [Ammo] | they send their alltime total |
| 15:03.15 | Adirelle | if we have no value and no session id, we lost the session somewhere, don't calculate anything until we receive another value |
| 15:03.18 | [Ammo] | regardless of session |
| 15:03.24 | JASlaughter | "So... in 2.1 SendAddonMessage() can use the "WHISPER" chat type for targeted communication" - What's the general practice for this? Are we waiting for ChatThrottleLib? |
| 15:03.43 | [Ammo] | JASlaughter: it's handy to send a hidden whisper to people |
| 15:03.44 | Adirelle | you're sure of that ? |
| 15:03.47 | [Ammo] | I am |
| 15:03.54 | [Ammo] | I have been looking at SWS sync messages for 2 days now |
| 15:04.04 | [Ammo] | after I finished the code I tested the reset |
| 15:04.10 | [Ammo] | and all reset in SWS does is up the session id |
| 15:04.10 | Adirelle | oh... wait... I was talking about DMM |
| 15:04.20 | [Ammo] | it just sends the alltime total |
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| 15:04.25 | [Ammo] | too bad I found that out after I fixed all the code |
| 15:04.32 | [Ammo] | hence I can springclean it :) |
| 15:04.43 | Adirelle | DMM handles the way I described it |
| 15:04.53 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:04.55 | [Ammo] | SWS is weird |
| 15:04.58 | [Ammo] | and a pile of poo |
| 15:05.17 | Adirelle | "poo" ? |
| 15:05.24 | nevcairiel | can violation report to chat already? |
| 15:05.30 | phyber | yar. |
| 15:05.38 | nevcairiel | i should really try it |
| 15:05.46 | abyssichate | Is Bartender4 usable already? |
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| 15:05.55 | JASlaughter | Yeah I want to take advantage of whisper addon messages but it doesn't look like ChatThrottleLib is using the sendaddon function for this yet. |
| 15:06.00 | durcyn_ | nevcairiel: seems to be able to, yes. |
| 15:06.03 | Adirelle | damn |
| 15:06.17 | Adirelle | stupid IRC client |
| 15:06.20 | Adirelle | well |
| 15:06.21 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:06.24 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: yes, it does |
| 15:06.27 | phyber | nevcairiel: it's sexy. Lower left of -> http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_052407_213521.jpg |
| 15:06.44 | vhaarr | JASlaughter: Bug Mikk about that later when he's here. |
| 15:06.45 | [Ammo] | phyber: old screeny |
| 15:06.46 | vhaarr | ~seen mikk |
| 15:07.33 | purl | mikk is currently on #wowwiki (2h 37m 46s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 1h 30m 54s, last said: 'wget it, verify via torrent downloader, then execute?'. |
| 15:07.33 | [Ammo] | it's more sexy than ever now |
| 15:07.33 | phyber | [Ammo]: yeah. it's even better now :) |
| 15:07.33 | nevcairiel | phyber: man your raid sucks, one dd with nearly 25% .. something is definately wrong there :P |
| 15:07.52 | phyber | nevcairiel: 'dd' ? |
| 15:07.56 | nevcairiel | damage dealer |
| 15:08.14 | Adirelle | hey, I couldn't read the answer : what's a "poo" ? |
| 15:08.21 | phyber | I don't think I reset the stats. |
| 15:08.28 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:08.33 | phyber | also, since I'm the only one running it, they're not very accurate ;) |
| 15:08.37 | BankZ | How does the violation UI look compared to SWS? |
| 15:08.45 | phyber | soon, they will all be converted. ;) |
| 15:08.46 | Adirelle | BankZ: simple |
| 15:08.52 | Adirelle | BankZ: but functionnal |
| 15:08.53 | nevcairiel | Now that it can sync on DMM and SWS |
| 15:08.57 | nevcairiel | its better =) |
| 15:09.05 | Adirelle | aah, no, no SYNC, its spies them |
| 15:09.10 | Adirelle | s/its/it/ |
| 15:09.12 | nevcairiel | enough for me |
| 15:09.19 | nevcairiel | it receives their sync |
| 15:09.24 | nevcairiel | what do i care if i send syncs =P |
| 15:09.25 | BankZ | Adirelle: Kinda looks like the old Damage Meter addon? |
| 15:09.41 | Adirelle | BankZ: a bit better I think |
| 15:10.08 | Adirelle | btw, there should be some screenies around, but I don't have any |
| 15:10.17 | BankZ | Adirelle: cool, I will test it tonight. I hope I can have it auto show/hide depending on if I am in a group/raid |
| 15:10.27 | Adirelle | BankZ: not yet |
| 15:11.58 | vhaarr | Adirelle: If you're looking for work, you can add options to that effect, and also options for autoresetting the data when joining/leaving groups |
| 15:12.41 | BankZ | So whats new in Bartender4? |
| 15:12.46 | Tuyk | not in a raid, just me playing with my new axe testing the throw, but it has Violation in http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7840/wowscrnshot060507014334ww9.jpg |
| 15:13.55 | [Ammo] | the header color is configurable btw nevc |
| 15:13.58 | Adirelle | vhaarr: I was thinking about it |
| 15:14.40 | Adirelle | vhaarr: I don't see anything else to do that wouldn't imply breaking Violation into small pieces |
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| 15:15.03 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 15:15.07 | [Ammo] | why? just because it's a large file? |
| 15:15.13 | vhaarr | It'll happen eventually, but there's no real reason to do it now. |
| 15:15.24 | vhaarr | The code is in too much flux for it to happen now. |
| 15:15.46 | vhaarr | Once things are more stable, and the code can be easily maintained in smaller chunks, it'll happen. |
| 15:16.18 | Adirelle | mainly because I don't see what could be added for now, except small options like autohiding and the like |
| 15:16.27 | vhaarr | Multiple displays. |
| 15:16.31 | Adirelle | right... |
| 15:16.53 | [Ammo] | proper interviolation synchronization |
| 15:17.09 | Imp4kT | phyber what the fuck |
| 15:17.14 | Imp4kT | you have 1 bound to weapon |
| 15:17.16 | Imp4kT | youre a warlock. |
| 15:17.26 | Adirelle | [Ammo] you mean "full synchronization" ? |
| 15:17.53 | Adirelle | oh, another thing : write a Wiki about modules : what they show and how they do it |
| 15:18.29 | Adirelle | well, threw idea at top of Violation.lua |
| 15:18.57 | Adirelle | maybe getting some default color for module would be nice too |
| 15:19.11 | [Ammo] | yeah that's nice |
| 15:19.17 | [Ammo] | so we can use it for the multidisplay as well |
| 15:19.58 | phyber | Imp4kT: I melee stuff when bored. |
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| 15:20.17 | phyber | Imp4kT: my unarmed is 305 :) |
| 15:20.18 | Adirelle | dunno if something could be done about spreading data gathering... |
| 15:20.54 | phyber | Imp4kT: also, there are those magic immune kara mobs which it's handy for. |
| 15:20.57 | Adirelle | as Mikk said, I can't see how it would help if only one user sends data for non-users |
| 15:21.23 | Adirelle | err... maybe it was what you mean by " proper interviolation synchronization" ? |
| 15:22.09 | vhaarr | Adirelle: I wrote about it at the top of Violation.lua |
| 15:22.20 | Adirelle | vhaarr: I know, I'm talking about this |
| 15:22.28 | vhaarr | Why? |
| 15:23.07 | Adirelle | "same class, then same role" => in hope that they will be close to each other ? |
| 15:23.17 | vhaarr | yes |
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| 15:24.18 | Adirelle | you should start with that, I'm not even sure people of the same group always stay in range |
| 15:25.31 | Arrowmaster | better solution |
| 15:25.36 | Arrowmaster | never assume people are in range |
| 15:25.47 | Antiarc|Work | Morning folks |
| 15:27.41 | Adirelle | hi |
| 15:27.43 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r38596 10Skinner/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:27.43 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Skinned Examiner, Ludwig, xcalc & TinyTip |
| 15:27.43 | CIA-22 | - Updated skins for RecipeBook, DoTimer, EnhancedTradeSkills & FuBar_DurabilityFu |
| 15:27.43 | CIA-22 | - Removed TinyTipExtras skin |
| 15:28.09 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r38597 10Talented_Data/ (4 files): Talented_Data: Regenerate |
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| 15:32.13 | stavmar | Is it necessary to have everyone in the raid using Omen for it to work appropriate. We were testing it, Me in Karazhan, no one else using Omen. It seemed to work just as well KTM, which everyone has? |
| 15:32.57 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r38598 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: major cleanup of SWS spy. Drycoded, may eat your babies. |
| 15:32.58 | Gamefaq | hi |
| 15:33.09 | Adirelle | stavmar: Omen uses Threat, Threat spies KTM data :p |
| 15:34.32 | stavmar | Adirelle: so if you use KTM and Omen, you are good in the raid |
| 15:34.58 | vodrin | or just omen |
| 15:34.58 | vodrin | ;-o |
| 15:35.05 | Adirelle | you don't need to have KTM installed |
| 15:35.43 | stavmar | SO it will work due to the threat library is the same for Violation of SWStats? |
| 15:35.43 | Adirelle | Omen will get KTM data from other players... BUT ... won't send anything |
| 15:36.06 | [Ammo] | Threat-1.0 will get KTM data from other players |
| 15:36.08 | Adirelle | stavmar: I think you're confusing things :p |
| 15:36.11 | [Ammo] | Omen just displays it |
| 15:36.13 | stavmar | yes I am sorry |
| 15:36.18 | [Ammo] | violation can display threat-1.0 data as well |
| 15:36.29 | stavmar | i want to use one if I could but I dont want to hurt my raid if I use Omen and they use KTM? |
| 15:36.42 | vodrin | are you main tank? |
| 15:36.48 | stavmar | i saw that Ammo pretty spiffy, let my have two windows and I will just use that |
| 15:36.53 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:36.54 | stavmar | Know I am ranged DPS |
| 15:36.55 | Adirelle | both Threat-1.0 is what calculates data (and spies KTM), Violation and Omen both uses Threat-1.0 |
| 15:37.03 | vodrin | just use omen then |
| 15:37.06 | [Ammo] | time to fix my drycode |
| 15:37.06 | Matrix110 | stavmar Ammo is working on dual screen afaik |
| 15:37.14 | vodrin | (or any of the other threat-1.0 stuff) |
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| 15:38.10 | shieldb | stavmar, if you are the MT and you drop KTM for Omen/Threat-1.0, then everyone in the raid needs omen/threat-1.0. If you are not the main tank / ot / critical role and you drop KTM for Omen/Threat-1.0, no big deal |
| 15:38.44 | durcyn | or you could tell everyone to switch to threat if they wish to contin to raid =) |
| 15:38.49 | durcyn | continue* |
| 15:39.10 | shieldb | vashj got 80% of our raid to switch to omen/threat last night |
| 15:39.18 | stavmar | So if my main tank uses Omen and not KTM our raid is fubared |
| 15:39.23 | Matrix110 | no |
| 15:39.26 | Fisker- | lolwut shieldb? |
| 15:39.31 | Matrix110 | they just need to use Omen/Violation aswell :P |
| 15:39.32 | shieldb | GG ktm thinking damage to players from static charge counts as threat |
| 15:39.33 | Fisker- | WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? |
| 15:40.08 | vodrin | well, it makes my raid members angry |
| 15:40.29 | stavmar | shieldb: that does not make sense, If our MT is using Omen, and the rest of us are using KTM, heis threat will not show up in our KTM windows? |
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| 15:40.35 | shieldb | correct |
| 15:40.56 | shieldb | Running Omen/Threat will allow you to see anyone running KTM, and send to people running Omen/Threat |
| 15:41.38 | Fisker- | mwuhahaha |
| 15:41.38 | Adirelle | stavmar: this is one sens only, i.e. KTM->Omen works, Omen->ktm does NOT work |
| 15:41.38 | Fisker- | Kenco is getting raped |
| 15:41.41 | stavmar | one directional i guess |
| 15:41.44 | Adirelle | s/Omen/Threat/g |
| 15:42.00 | Adirelle | right, excuse my english :p |
| 15:42.14 | shieldb | I think threat is the most confusion name possible to stick into a conversation like that |
| 15:42.15 | Fisker- | KLHThreatMeter Project Information |
| 15:42.18 | shieldb | confusing, even |
| 15:42.19 | Fisker- | You rated this as good. |
| 15:42.22 | Fisker- | i feel bad now :( |
| 15:42.56 | vodrin | what does the lh stand for anyway |
| 15:42.56 | Adirelle | say Threat-1.0 then :p |
| 15:43.11 | durcyn | or even threatlib |
| 15:43.17 | shieldb | yeah, I've been doing that or using it as "Omen/Threat" |
| 15:43.19 | stavmar | so do you reccomend getting the raid to switch to omen/threat, we have a bunch of tards who cannot even download the files off your site |
| 15:43.20 | Fisker- | It was either his guild or his server vodrin |
| 15:43.34 | stavmar | the wowace site, excuse me |
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| 15:43.43 | Fisker- | stavmar easy solution: /gkick |
| 15:43.45 | vodrin | how to do do write macro shout tainted? |
| 15:43.56 | durcyn | stavmar: tell them to just get Omen. It'll bitch at them in big red letters when they're out of date. |
| 15:44.02 | Adirelle | I think "Omen/Threat-1.0" maybe the best wording (as would be "Violation/Threat-1.0") |
| 15:44.15 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r38599 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fix drycode errors in SWS spy. Works now yay :) |
| 15:44.22 | vodrin | gnu/threat-1.0 |
| 15:44.24 | shieldb | stavmar, I'd suggest having everyone pick up omen/threat and your main tank keeps running KTM for a week or so until everyone picks it up |
| 15:44.36 | stavmar | shieldb: ok sounds good |
| 15:44.50 | Fisker- | wouldn't running KTM + Threat at the same time screw things up? |
| 15:44.53 | Matrix110 | i need to infect our MT with a trojan that automatically grabs the ThreatLib each time he starts wow |
| 15:45.03 | shieldb | just tell everyone they need to be running omen/threat-1.0 by the end of the week or they'll be screwed ;) |
| 15:45.04 | durcyn | Fisker-: when Threat sees data from Threat and KTM, it uses Threat. |
| 15:45.12 | shieldb | Fisker-, nah, works fine - it'll take threat over ktm |
| 15:45.20 | stavmar | [Ammo]: so does violation work if other raid members are using SWStats now? At least with more accuracy I guess |
| 15:45.30 | vodrin | yes |
| 15:45.36 | [Ammo] | stavmar: it spies SWS sync's now |
| 15:45.40 | Adirelle | stavmar: as for Threat-1.0, Violation spies data from SWS and DMM |
| 15:45.45 | Adirelle | but does not send |
| 15:45.49 | [Ammo] | stavmar: so it gets data for SWS users |
| 15:45.56 | Fisker- | hahaha |
| 15:45.57 | stavmar | that is amazing, so If use violation SWStas would not be needed? |
| 15:46.05 | [Ammo] | it will not send SWS data |
| 15:46.07 | [Ammo] | only read |
| 15:46.09 | Fisker- | bethesda forums are getting out of hands |
| 15:46.14 | Fisker- | hand* |
| 15:46.15 | [Ammo] | but you would get data from SWS |
| 15:46.31 | [Ammo] | at least for Damage, Healing, DamageTaken, HealingTaken, Overhealing and Decurse |
| 15:46.40 | Matrix110 | want Raw Healing! |
| 15:46.41 | Adirelle | if you use violation, you will have data from DMM, SWS, KTM and Threat (and Violation built-in modules :p) |
| 15:46.42 | Matrix110 | :p |
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| 15:47.04 | [Ammo] | raw healing is a useless statistic |
| 15:47.07 | [Ammo] | effective healing = pro |
| 15:47.12 | shieldb | Fisker-, yeah I saw that |
| 15:47.15 | shieldb | WTB trailer/teaser! |
| 15:47.26 | stavmar | So when multiple windows are allowed we are talking about one really efficient and badass mod |
| 15:47.29 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:47.32 | Fisker- | can't wait |
| 15:47.41 | Fisker- | i'm either gonna fap or be disappointed and fap |
| 15:47.54 | aquanda | fapfapfafpafapfafpafpap |
| 15:47.55 | jme | does violation let you have more than one window out at a time yet? |
| 15:47.58 | Azurewrath | that's just what i wanted to know ;p |
| 15:48.00 | Matrix110 | [Ammo] i know but our healers keep saying that they want Raw Healing :P |
| 15:48.04 | Punkie` | Ammo told me that if your name has Fisker in it it calls a recurring loop and you lose 10fps |
| 15:48.14 | [Ammo] | noo only for 'Fiskerdin' |
| 15:48.18 | Fisker- | few |
| 15:48.20 | stavmar | lo |
| 15:48.21 | Fisker- | phew* |
| 15:48.25 | Fisker- | then i can still play on my rogue |
| 15:48.26 | stavmar | lol* |
| 15:48.35 | Adirelle | jme: not yet, but it seems to be a very popular feature request, it could be added soon :p |
| 15:48.43 | jme | Adirelle: cool |
| 15:48.52 | [Ammo] | it will |
| 15:48.57 | [Ammo] | but I got sidetracked into SWS horror |
| 15:49.25 | Punkie` | Ammo, you need to make a new addon! |
| 15:49.27 | Adirelle | hehe |
| 15:49.34 | Punkie` | Like the SWS combat log, but call it Wupah |
| 15:49.45 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: type: /combatlog |
| 15:49.48 | [Ammo] | kthxbye |
| 15:49.55 | Punkie` | have you seen the SWS combat log? |
| 15:50.16 | Punkie` | It's like a fancy global one or something |
| 15:50.20 | Punkie` | although I've never used it |
| 15:50.26 | aquanda | sws=? |
| 15:50.53 | sdouble | SWStats |
| 15:50.56 | [Ammo] | it's a fancy crap one |
| 15:51.03 | [Ammo] | I don't want to run that |
| 15:51.10 | [Ammo] | it's like the RDX log collector thing |
| 15:51.11 | shieldb | Fisker-, trailer is showing up on the site now |
| 15:51.13 | [Ammo] | memory bloat galore |
| 15:51.26 | aquanda | ah |
| 15:53.49 | Fisker- | server down already shieldb :( |
| 15:54.07 | aquanda | i've viewed the sws combat log once, but i'm happy with eavesdrop |
| 15:54.09 | shieldb | you broke it?!? |
| 15:54.42 | Fisker- | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers. |
| 15:55.15 | Fisker- | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| 15:55.16 | Fisker- | Length: 138,672,265 (132M) [video/x-ms-wmv] |
| 15:55.17 | Fisker- | got ya :D |
| 15:55.21 | shieldb | I'm downloading the 720p one just fine |
| 15:55.27 | shieldb | though not very fast |
| 15:56.02 | Killmore | Antiarc ?? |
| 15:56.35 | Fisker- | man |
| 15:56.37 | Fisker- | they killed it |
| 15:56.47 | Fisker- | disconnected me with a 404 |
| 15:57.49 | Fisker- | Connecting to static.bethsoft.com|206.16.236.156|:80... failed: Connection refused. |
| 15:57.51 | Fisker- | pwnt |
| 15:58.38 | phyber | URL for not working Fo3 trailer = ? |
| 15:58.39 | shieldb | aww, mine just died |
| 15:58.55 | pastamancer | Fo3? |
| 15:58.56 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=kaelten@69.109.103.158) |
| 15:58.58 | Fisker- | http://fallout.bethsoft.com |
| 15:58.58 | Matrix110 | Fallout? |
| 15:59.00 | shieldb | Fallout 3 |
| 15:59.01 | pastamancer | ah |
| 15:59.22 | phyber | Fisker-: ahh, I looked, but had "Please Stand By". stupid caching ;) |
| 15:59.30 | TecnoBrat | Is the wiki on this page really messed up for anyone else? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Raiding_with_Ace_AddOns |
| 15:59.50 | Fisker- | not really |
| 16:00.34 | Fisker- | fileplanet has to host this like asap |
| 16:00.40 | Fisker- | then i can actually download it :P |
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| 16:00.52 | TecnoBrat | like the "Contents" is in the bottom right |
| 16:00.56 | aquanda | TecnoBrat: a little about 2/3 of the way down |
| 16:01.02 | TecnoBrat | and the "edit" links are all wacky |
| 16:01.04 | aquanda | yes |
| 16:01.11 | aquanda | didn't notice it at irst |
| 16:01.12 | aquanda | first |
| 16:01.27 | durcyn | anyone have a falout3 trailer torrent link? |
| 16:01.38 | Fisker- | haha |
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| 16:01.42 | Fisker- | they had to use a mirror now |
| 16:01.48 | TecnoBrat | looks like every page is broken |
| 16:01.52 | TecnoBrat | I bet you it was the ad |
| 16:01.56 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:SVN |
| 16:03.00 | Fisker- | and that's down as well |
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| 16:03.01 | Kalman| | durcyn: Wait, what. Fallout3? |
| 16:03.01 | Fisker- | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6558.0 <-best topic ever btw |
| 16:03.01 | aquanda | not made by the same company as the original or 2 =/ |
| 16:03.05 | Kalman| | Bethesda Softworks? |
| 16:03.08 | Kalman| | I can live with that. |
| 16:03.16 | durcyn | Kalman|: shhh, they'll hear you. |
| 16:03.17 | aquanda | better than the fallout made for consoles though |
| 16:03.38 | Antiarc|Work | Morning folks |
| 16:03.40 | Fisker- | anyone know how to refresh in www-browser? |
| 16:03.40 | durcyn | never have i sen a more rabid fanbase than fallout geeks |
| 16:03.55 | Kalman| | durcyn: That's because they were really, really good games. |
| 16:04.02 | aquanda | yes |
| 16:04.08 | aquanda | fallout mm = god |
| 16:04.11 | aquanda | mmo |
| 16:04.11 | kenlyric | when you say fallout, I think fallout boy, and I don't think geeks. :) |
| 16:04.12 | durcyn | oh, absolutely. i'm one of thoes rabid fans =P |
| 16:04.13 | Tuyk | well that was quick.. Nihilium just got Illidan down |
| 16:04.28 | Kalman| | kenlyric: That's funny, when I hear Fallout Boy, I definitely think geeks. ;) |
| 16:04.46 | kenlyric | fallout boy is emo, foo |
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| 16:05.02 | Kalman| | s/emo/bad? |
| 16:05.10 | kenlyric | they mean the same thing |
| 16:05.19 | Kalman| | It is true. |
| 16:05.26 | kenlyric | Tuyk? really, or are you just yanking our chains? |
| 16:05.31 | Kinkx | Illidan is daun :o |
| 16:05.36 | Kinkx | That was fast |
| 16:05.42 | jme | wow |
| 16:05.47 | Kinkx | Nihilum just got him |
| 16:05.52 | Tuyk | their irc channel jas just gone nuts, Kungen said was flawless to with 9 dead |
| 16:05.52 | jme | did they fraps it? |
| 16:05.53 | aquanda | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/SqueeMK2/oooupgrades.png <--- hot fallout pix |
| 16:06.01 | Tuyk | 0 dead |
| 16:06.03 | Kinkx | shrug |
| 16:06.06 | jme | what is their irc channel? |
| 16:06.09 | kenlyric | how is 9 dead flawless? |
| 16:06.14 | Tuyk | mis type :P |
| 16:06.19 | Kalman| | They were flawless. Tuyk's typing is not. :p |
| 16:06.24 | Tuyk | so true |
| 16:06.33 | Kinkx | it's on irc.quakenet.org, forgot their channel tho, prolly #nihilum |
| 16:06.41 | jme | ah |
| 16:06.45 | shieldb | nihilum.wow I think |
| 16:06.47 | Tuyk | #nihilum.wow on quake |
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| 16:10.33 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 16:10.41 | Fisker- | are they fucking stupid? |
| 16:10.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:10.54 | Fisker- | They give you a 1 month tryout for 1$ and it costs 20$ for 3 months |
| 16:10.56 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 16:11.10 | nevcairiel | for what? |
| 16:11.32 | nevcairiel | plus every name/address pair can prolly only use the tryout once |
| 16:12.04 | stavmar | what is the comman in irc to join a new network? lol |
| 16:12.10 | Fisker- | btw |
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| 16:12.12 | stavmar | command* |
| 16:12.17 | nevcairiel | ./server generally |
| 16:12.18 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/fallout3/ |
| 16:12.23 | Fisker- | 20 seconds |
| 16:12.25 | Fisker- | and it's there |
| 16:12.36 | Fisker- | cost me 1$ :( |
| 16:12.41 | stavmar | nevcairiel: thank you |
| 16:12.49 | Fisker- | it's up |
| 16:13.39 | Fisker- | shieldb fucking trailer!!!!! |
| 16:14.05 | shieldb | woot |
| 16:14.06 | Kalman| | Aw, man, Fisker-: WMV? |
| 16:14.13 | Fisker- | blame bethesda, not me |
| 16:14.26 | shieldb | it was either that or quicktime |
| 16:14.28 | binder | Anyone here working on Omni? |
| 16:14.36 | Kalman| | Aw, man, Bethesda, WMV? |
| 16:14.38 | Fisker- | There wasn't quicktime on any of the mirrors that actually WORKED |
| 16:14.54 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38600 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatBuffsData.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to the Fetish of the Sand Reaver to make it reduce rather than increase your threat generated. |
| 16:14.54 | aquanda | there has to be at least 200 people in nihilum's channel right now |
| 16:14.58 | Fisker- | why? |
| 16:15.22 | Tuyk | aquanda: 1458 actually |
| 16:15.31 | Antiarc|Work | What's Omni? |
| 16:15.33 | sbu | drops? |
| 16:15.36 | Fisker- | they killed illidanz? |
| 16:15.38 | aquanda | ya |
| 16:15.48 | aquanda | dont t hink they've linked drops yet, but who knows there's so much spam |
| 16:16.06 | aquanda | last 3 pages is nothing but green ***enters** text |
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| 16:16.19 | Lopen|Work | http://www.nihilum.eu/images/illidan_down.jpg if it ever loads |
| 16:16.37 | kov` | http://www.abload.de/img/shielddry.jpg |
| 16:16.41 | kov` | now that's a shield |
| 16:16.42 | aquanda | ya |
| 16:17.02 | aquanda | wow. that staff is amazing. |
| 16:17.07 | kov` | http://www.abload.de/img/staffiyj.jpg |
| 16:17.40 | aquanda | haha. felhunter on a stick |
| 16:17.53 | Fisker- | haha |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#wowace karpadnik (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-768187a18fe8ad37) |
| 16:17.59 | Fisker- | "War, War never changes" |
| 16:18.00 | binder | Antiarc|Work with a new week of raiding here, I'm going to have my guild install omni, is there any kind of debug mode for it anything that would let me give you logs of our 25 mans? |
| 16:18.05 | Fisker- | *Cue Fallout 3 logo* |
| 16:18.09 | Fisker- | Fall 2008 :/ |
| 16:18.20 | shieldb | Pipboy for president? |
| 16:18.22 | Antiarc|Work | binder: Not really, no :) |
| 16:18.34 | Antiarc|Work | http://i10.tinypic.com/63hsi76.jpg |
| 16:18.49 | Killmore | illidan down |
| 16:18.55 | Killmore | http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=illidandownck1.jpg |
| 16:19.22 | binder | Game Over - roll the credits |
| 16:19.41 | Silviu- | http://i19.tinypic.com/4zwkhw9.jpg |
| 16:19.50 | Silviu- | Ah same pic :P |
| 16:20.43 | cotangent | whats with the warrior in lawbringer shoulders? did they use those for a dps set as well? the ones from netherspite got turned into red wrath |
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| 16:21.14 | Tuyk | yeh most plate stuff still hasn't got a model and looks liek lawbringer |
| 16:21.30 | Kirkburn | Archimonde ain't dead yet! |
| 16:22.21 | dodgizzla | Hm, you know what would be superneat? If WAU would show you a condensed changelog of all addons it updated since your last update; much like apt-listchanges e.g. |
| 16:22.22 | aquanda | ok i should really getting to bed soon. raid in 7 hours gg |
| 16:22.49 | *** part/#wowace aquanda (n=aquanda@87.127.32.105) |
| 16:22.52 | xt | is the freezing fix commited to pitbull svn? |
| 16:22.56 | Antiarc|Work | Does anyone know if the Shadowfiend is the "pet" unit? |
| 16:23.16 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: It is. |
| 16:23.30 | Antiarc|Work | Hm, ok. |
| 16:23.33 | Kalman| | At least you get a petbar for it now, and it shows up as a pet unitframe. |
| 16:23.36 | Antiarc|Work | Not sure why threat's sticking around. |
| 16:23.52 | Antiarc|Work | What level is shadowfiend? 66? |
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| 16:24.54 | Kalman| | You get it at 66. |
| 16:24.54 | Herio | ~seen nymbia |
| 16:25.41 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 20m 23s ago, saying: 'Fisker-: NO U'. |
| 16:25.54 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38601 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to healing people outside of your party. |
| 16:25.54 | Fisker- | nice |
| 16:28.05 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38602 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Change to make sure pet threat goes away if the pet despawns. |
| 16:28.37 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work and Water elemental remains |
| 16:28.46 | [Liquidor] | http://i11.tinypic.com/639n8lu.jpg |
| 16:28.49 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: I'm hoping that commit just fixed it. |
| 16:28.54 | Silviu- | Okay |
| 16:29.27 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r38603 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: |
| 16:29.27 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:29.27 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Herbs deDE Update: Netherdust Bush = Netherstaubbusch |
| 16:29.36 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 16:30.10 | ag` | fucking cooldown dails |
| 16:30.12 | ag` | they suck |
| 16:30.15 | Silviu- | [Liquidor] Discord art ? |
| 16:30.21 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 16:30.31 | Silviu- | That is why u make so nice UI`s |
| 16:30.41 | Silviu- | BUT i prefer my 18 MB ui then a bloated 40 MB |
| 16:30.43 | Silviu- | :P |
| 16:30.44 | ag` | anyone have some info about how the cooldown frames/ :SetCooldown works? |
| 16:30.53 | [Liquidor] | Yeah Discord suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks and blows totally |
| 16:31.03 | [Liquidor] | Wish someone would write something similar with Ace modules |
| 16:31.03 | sbu | \o/ Antiarc|Work |
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| 16:31.45 | [Liquidor] | Silviu-, although this ui doesn't go nuts with MB and FPS. Just a couple of layers, that's all. |
| 16:31.46 | binder | Antiarc|Work er, sorry about that meant omen :P |
| 16:32.01 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 16:32.15 | kergoth | Silviu-: your ui is 18 megs? damn, thats nice |
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| 16:32.50 | Tornhoof | that fallout3 teaser is prerendered anyway |
| 16:33.10 | Fisker- | of course it is |
| 16:33.12 | [Ammo] | kergoth: your UI has been bloated forever :p |
| 16:33.14 | abyssichate | Is there an option to issue a data reset vote even if you are not an officer/RL in Violation? |
| 16:33.15 | kergoth | fuck it, i'm putting violation, recount, /and/ assessment in my addon set for now |
| 16:33.16 | kergoth | truth |
| 16:33.19 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:33.22 | [Ammo] | you use like every addon in the book |
| 16:33.31 | kergoth | and some that arent in the book |
| 16:33.32 | dodgizzla | kergoth: I do, too :D |
| 16:34.07 | dodgizzla | If you don't use your ram it gets bored. And then, when you really need it, it will die on you. |
| 16:34.18 | dodgizzla | That's why: put more stuff in your UI! :D |
| 16:34.33 | kenlyric | fuckity fuck fuck fuck! steam is horked. |
| 16:34.33 | kergoth | i try to focus on a minimalistic ui, but i just love information, i can't sacrifice enough of it to get there |
| 16:35.09 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: kergoth reminds me of Kysth :P |
| 16:35.32 | kenlyric | no such thing as too much information. |
| 16:36.45 | Silviu- | 'kergoth yup |
| 16:37.01 | Killmore | Antiarc ?? |
| 16:37.13 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.22 | Silviu- | kergoth ok i get to 23 when i load Lightheaded |
| 16:37.26 | Silviu- | But rest 18 :) |
| 16:37.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:37.54 | kergoth | should drop lower than 23 once clad releases it with the breakup by level |
| 16:37.57 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 16:38.05 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 16:38.14 | abyssichate | [Ammo]: I am sorry for asking it again, but I'd just like to know if it is just not implmented (yet), is there an option to issue a data reset vote even if you are not an officer/RL in Violation? |
| 16:38.14 | Tornhoof | what is lightheaded? |
| 16:38.26 | [Ammo] | abyssichate: no |
| 16:38.27 | clad|afk | the database is pretty large, to be sure, heh |
| 16:38.33 | Kalman| | Tornhoof: WowHead quest comments integrated into your questlog. |
| 16:38.33 | [Ammo] | it's 3.5M or so |
| 16:38.36 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 16:38.36 | abyssichate | Okei, thanks |
| 16:38.45 | Tornhoof | ah i see |
| 16:38.48 | [Ammo] | abyssichate: but you can always reset your own data |
| 16:38.48 | Tornhoof | nice |
| 16:38.57 | kergoth | lightheaded is lighter than cartographer_questobjectives with a full db, and thats good enough for me |
| 16:39.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38604 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for errors when a raid wipe is requested and you don't have a pet. |
| 16:39.49 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r38605 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:39.49 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 16:39.50 | CIA-22 | - Gems added to all heroic bosses |
| 16:39.50 | CIA-22 | - Minor improvements |
| 16:40.04 | abyssichate | [Ammo]: yeah, I know but having an option to reset the whole thing for everybody would be nice too at same point :) |
| 16:40.30 | [Ammo] | a RL/Officer can do that |
| 16:40.35 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 16:40.44 | [Ammo] | but people can turn that off as well |
| 16:40.56 | kergoth | atlasloot.. wonder how the new version of that is. the alphas of the new atlas based on cart look promising, might have a nicer interface than cart's notes based solution |
| 16:41.15 | [Ammo] | kergoth: it's code is horrible |
| 16:41.21 | [Ammo] | but you can check for yourself :) |
| 16:41.23 | kergoth | somehow i'm not surprised |
| 16:41.43 | kergoth | arg, i wish svn was better at merges |
| 16:41.49 | kergoth | it gets conflicts sometimes when it really shouldnt |
| 16:42.07 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38606 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed an errant parentheses. Thanks Punkie`. |
| 16:42.41 | clad|afk | kergoth: smerge ftw =( |
| 16:42.48 | clad|afk | kergoth: I just had so many issues with the differences in rev numbers, I had to stop using svk |
| 16:43.10 | Antiarc|Work | TortioseSVN's merge tool is nice |
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| 16:43.15 | kergoth | yea that can be problematic. if you write your own svn based tools you can work around it to a certain extent, since the upstream revision is stored |
| 16:43.32 | kergoth | svn log -v --xml, the 'original' xml tag on a revision is the upstream # |
| 16:43.50 | Killmore | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=268.0 |
| 16:43.52 | kergoth | but what bugs me is the expansion of svn keywords in svk using svk revisions |
| 16:43.57 | kergoth | rather than upstream ones |
| 16:43.58 | Laric | anyone have the full patchnotes for 2.1.1? |
| 16:44.00 | kergoth | throws everything off |
| 16:44.04 | Killmore | lol at Nihilum if the legendary drop its true |
| 16:44.12 | Kirkburn | Laric, check the wiki |
| 16:44.21 | clad|afk | kergoth: YES that was what bit me in the ass |
| 16:44.21 | Kirkburn | (by which I mean, we do) |
| 16:44.24 | clad|afk | doesn't make any sense to me. |
| 16:44.25 | MoonWolf | i'm scepticle at the legendary |
| 16:44.33 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.1.1_%28Release_Notes%29 |
| 16:44.36 | clad|afk | I released a dongle version that jumped 400 revisions due to the keywords =) |
| 16:44.43 | kergoth | clad|afk: i just got sick of the way mirroring is handled. i have svnsync'd copies of repositories, and yet i'd have to completely re-mirror it to make use of svk with it. |
| 16:44.43 | Kalman| | Yeah, up until now, legendaries haven't ever dropped directly. |
| 16:44.44 | Kirkburn | The artifact didn't drop |
| 16:44.51 | kergoth | hahah, oops |
| 16:44.56 | clad|afk | with svnsync.. its nice. |
| 16:45.27 | MoonWolf | kergoth complaining about svn/svk who would have thought |
| 16:45.34 | kergoth | my new workflows use svnsync to maintain local mirrors, 'piston' to have an equivalent of svnmerge that works across repository boundaries (great for managing vendor branches of upstream svn source), and svnmerge within the repo |
| 16:45.46 | clad|afk | nice |
| 16:45.50 | kergoth | it annoys me that we need svk for smerge and merge tracking (or svnmerge) |
| 16:45.51 | Killmore | Kirkburn: you see what Boubouille from mmo-champion wrote ? |
| 16:45.54 | Killmore | Awake is currently claiming that the legendary is a hoax, anyone who knows how to do it is free to check itemIDs 32838 and 32837 in game on Magtheridon server to make sure it's real. |
| 16:45.54 | Killmore | Sad that I got banned from Nihilum channel for this. |
| 16:45.54 | kergoth | svn should have had that shit built in |
| 16:46.09 | Boubouille | Killmore : He's a nice guy imo. |
| 16:46.20 | Boubouille | Boubouille, I mean. |
| 16:46.20 | Kirkburn | oh, lol |
| 16:46.22 | Kirkburn | nvm me |
| 16:46.34 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 16:46.40 | sedatedChipmunk | i hate that guy |
| 16:46.53 | kergoth | you know what annoying? people requesting features in addons you just dont feel like fucking with anymore, cause it works well enough as is |
| 16:46.57 | MoonWolf | because everyone is able to simple construct an item link out of the blue like that |
| 16:47.04 | Antiarc|Work | Item links aren't that hard. |
| 16:47.26 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.26 | MoonWolf | true, but not everyone can do that |
| 16:47.37 | Kirkburn | It only takes one person to confirm |
| 16:47.49 | durcyn | kergoth: please add milk and cookies to every one of your addons. |
| 16:47.58 | kergoth | hurray cookies |
| 16:47.59 | MoonWolf | i'll go do that then |
| 16:48.06 | Laric | Antiar1 got some bugs from threat... http://ace.pastey.net/51801 |
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| 16:48.14 | MoonWolf | kenergy could use cookies |
| 16:48.28 | kergoth | i need to come up with an addon to code that i give enough of a shit about to actually finish |
| 16:48.59 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: you might need todo /script GameTooltop:SetHyperlink("item:xxxxx") before to make it valid for GetItemInfo |
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| 16:49.42 | Antiarc|Work | Laric: Fixed it 5 minutes ago. :) |
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| 16:50.29 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38607 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix for invalid color when constructing a bar. Should show up as a really ugly purple. Screenshots if you see it please. |
| 16:50.49 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38608 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.xml: Threat-1.0: Actually loading the Vashj and Morogrim modules would be pretty swell :) |
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| 16:51.30 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38609 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.xml: Threat-1.0: Vashj, not Vahsj :| |
| 16:51.51 | Ominous | hey |
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| 16:52.06 | Killmore | Boubouille ? |
| 16:52.23 | Boubouille | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
| 16:52.25 | Boubouille | yeah. |
| 16:52.40 | nevcairiel | Both that ItemIds disconnected me on Magtheridon-EU |
| 16:52.52 | Boubouille | you suck then. |
| 16:52.58 | Boubouille | or maybe I didn't copy the right one, wait |
| 16:53.07 | kov` | what items neva? |
| 16:53.12 | kov` | shield and staff? |
| 16:53.15 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 16:53.16 | Boubouille | azzinoth |
| 16:53.17 | nevcairiel | the legendary |
| 16:53.20 | Boubouille | 32838 - Azzinoth |
| 16:53.20 | Boubouille | 32837 - Azzinoth |
| 16:53.24 | Boubouille | that's the one I used |
| 16:53.27 | kov` | i play on magtheridon and nobody linked it |
| 16:53.30 | nevcairiel | lets try gain |
| 16:53.31 | kov` | so it didnt drop |
| 16:53.32 | kov` | :> |
| 16:53.54 | Boubouille | actually |
| 16:53.57 | Boubouille | It's been linked in Orgrimmar |
| 16:54.02 | Boubouille | I saw screenshots, other than mine |
| 16:54.07 | kov` | it has? |
| 16:54.07 | nevcairiel | ah yeah |
| 16:54.09 | Boubouille | i've got one here actually |
| 16:54.09 | kov` | hm, ok |
| 16:54.10 | kov` | ._o |
| 16:54.11 | snurre | only 5% drop rate for one of them to drop :/ |
| 16:54.12 | nevcairiel | i get the mainhand sword |
| 16:54.22 | nevcairiel | whats the second id? |
| 16:54.38 | Tornhoof | offhand? |
| 16:54.45 | nevcairiel | well it didnt drop |
| 16:55.14 | Kirkburn | Well, no, dropping both at once would be silly? |
| 16:55.31 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:55.39 | nevcairiel | well at least i can get a tooltip for the mainhand |
| 16:55.43 | nevcairiel | so its valid alright |
| 16:55.55 | [Ammo] | or has been seen by a GM or something |
| 16:55.57 | Daemona | shieldb did you break omen? ;) |
| 16:55.57 | [Ammo] | or whatever |
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| 16:56.11 | nevcairiel | well the stats sound "real" |
| 16:56.15 | snurre | a gm probably spawned it |
| 16:56.16 | nevcairiel | no reason it shoudnt be |
| 16:57.07 | durcyn | twin blades of azzinoth eh? every wc3 fanboi just wet his pants. |
| 16:57.08 | Kirkburn | Why would a GM have randomly spawned it on that server in the last week? |
| 16:57.16 | Kirkburn | (assuming the server has been up *all* week?) |
| 16:57.30 | durcyn | Kirkburn: day, i'd think. it's tuesday. |
| 16:57.32 | snurre | cause nihilum's been doing illidan and some curious gm wanted to check it out |
| 16:57.36 | snurre | i guess |
| 16:57.39 | Kirkburn | In the EU, durcyn :P |
| 16:57.45 | durcyn | oh, right. |
| 16:57.45 | Kinkx | http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62607_twinbladelegendary_122_1011lo.jpg |
| 16:57.48 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 16:57.57 | durcyn | silly other continents. |
| 16:58.12 | QuantumDelta | http://mouz.wazap.com/nihilum/illidan_down.jpg was their drops :P |
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| 16:58.50 | Kinkx | Don't think the Legenary dropped for them, probably a quest or something |
| 16:59.02 | MoonWolf | but its been on the server |
| 16:59.08 | Matrix110 | just wanted to say that a legendary just dropping is weird |
| 16:59.09 | MoonWolf | so we can confirm that much right ? |
| 16:59.15 | Matrix110 | well it exists |
| 16:59.18 | Matrix110 | not more |
| 16:59.21 | Kinkx | Yea, http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62607_twinbladelegendary_122_1011lo.jpg is my screenshot |
| 16:59.25 | nevcairiel | the item exists in that form |
| 16:59.27 | Matrix110 | and it exists before aswell:P |
| 16:59.31 | Kinkx | so it is on the server |
| 16:59.31 | Matrix110 | *existed |
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| 17:00.14 | snurre | it's a real item.. 5% chance of a warglaive dropping, 50/50 between mainhand and offhand |
| 17:00.28 | Kirkburn | How do you know the droprate? |
| 17:00.36 | snurre | a bird told me |
| 17:00.40 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 17:00.55 | Kinkx | it's a droppable item? Not a quest? |
| 17:00.57 | hyperChipmunk | lol droprates after 2 kills |
| 17:00.57 | Kirkburn | Seems reasonable to me |
| 17:00.59 | Fisker- | still retarded though snurre |
| 17:01.08 | Kaydeethree | 2 kills? did curse get him too? |
| 17:01.19 | Fisker- | "In the future we won't rely on rare drops anymore for legendaries, that's why we made this _CASTER_ questline for Atiesh" |
| 17:01.35 | Fisker- | "Oh hi melee, we just lied and you have to rely on luck again for the next couple of years, thanks" |
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| 17:01.50 | hyperChipmunk | well, if someone claimed it didn't drop for them, i assume they've done it too |
| 17:01.50 | dodgizzla | Fisker-: Seems fine to me. All melee classes should SUFFER! :P |
| 17:02.11 | dodgizzla | Oh, and druids, too. |
| 17:02.35 | hyperChipmunk | oh shup; hunters don't get anything =p |
| 17:03.38 | grennon | hunters got thunderfury |
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| 17:03.46 | grennon | well, shitty ones anyway |
| 17:03.56 | Kirkburn | Btw, if it's "fake", we'll know by tomorrow, due to the server reset |
| 17:04.06 | Kirkburn | Assuming someone in Nihilum has it, the link will be valid. |
| 17:04.08 | MoonWolf | well |
| 17:04.12 | Kirkburn | If not, it won't. |
| 17:04.13 | MoonWolf | if it was a quest link |
| 17:04.17 | MoonWolf | they could look at the quest again. |
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| 17:04.29 | grennon | pic? |
| 17:04.32 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: if i put in BulkMailInbox.lua, would you mind donating your open-all stuff? |
| 17:04.37 | nevcairiel | i dont think its quested |
| 17:04.38 | MoonWolf | http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62607_twinbladelegendary_122_1011lo.jpg |
| 17:04.48 | MoonWolf | why not / |
| 17:04.48 | hyperChipmunk | TF is chance on hit |
| 17:04.50 | MoonWolf | ?* |
| 17:05.05 | Kirkburn | If there was a quest, why would they keep that secret? |
| 17:05.13 | Kirkburn | nvm the fact that Illidan is holding the damn thing |
| 17:05.21 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: open all is the easy part, the hard part is figuring when the best time to process the next message is |
| 17:05.28 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r38610 10kEnergy/ (Locale/deDE.lua Locale/enUS.lua addon.lua frame.lua): kEnergy: Drycoded font changing support using sharedmedialib. |
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| 17:05.44 | MoonWolf | yay , cookies now kergoth ? |
| 17:06.11 | hyperChipmunk | well, if you check the item links and only one is valid, then you could probably rightfully assume it's dropped |
| 17:06.29 | MoonWolf | best rogue weapon in game |
| 17:06.40 | hyperChipmunk | whoa, svn just went poop |
| 17:06.40 | Kirkburn | Duh, obviously a hunter weapon |
| 17:06.40 | MoonWolf | well, if you get the set that is. |
| 17:07.30 | kergoth | hrm, no border manipulation options in candybar.. maybe i should just stop using it. implementing a statusbar can't be that difficult |
| 17:07.45 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: before i got out of modding, i never really had time to test postal with less conservative open_all settings |
| 17:07.59 | pastamancer | looks like it was just a network hiccup |
| 17:08.04 | hyperChipmunk | grennon: kemayo checked in a simple open-all yesterday |
| 17:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | pastamancer: yea |
| 17:08.15 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: into what? |
| 17:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | screwed up my script >8P |
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| 17:08.46 | hyperChipmunk | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/OpenAll/ |
| 17:09.04 | grennon | i was listening for two bag_updates i think before processing next message to be safest |
| 17:09.07 | Fisker- | http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/894/32837vc1.jpg <-oh this pretty much debunks that nihilum got it :( |
| 17:09.13 | grennon | but im pretty sure it was overkill |
| 17:09.29 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: why? |
| 17:09.45 | Fisker- | well not 100% |
| 17:09.57 | Fisker- | But the item queries are faction specific as well |
| 17:10.01 | Ominous | ohh, 2.1.1 patch notes antwhere? |
| 17:10.13 | Fisker- | You can't query an item only seen by people on the other faction |
| 17:10.22 | nevcairiel | sure? |
| 17:10.25 | nevcairiel | i should try that |
| 17:10.35 | Fisker- | so that means it was either created by an alliance GM, or an alliance was in proximity to a player having it in his backpack |
| 17:10.43 | Kirkburn | I've never heard of the limitation |
| 17:10.46 | Tornhoof | me neither |
| 17:10.46 | [Ammo] | kergoth: if you need borders in candybar, feel free to implement them in candybar :p |
| 17:10.51 | Tornhoof | its just db flag |
| 17:11.04 | grennon | i dont like this OpenAll method |
| 17:11.04 | snurre | GMs are dual-faction |
| 17:11.10 | grennon | its the ct_mailmod method |
| 17:11.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:11.20 | Tornhoof | why should anyone care about faction specifics? |
| 17:11.23 | Fisker- | if that's right then it would be created in the database for both sides yeah |
| 17:11.25 | grennon | its making its own timer and checking it |
| 17:11.42 | Fisker- | Tornhoof i don't know, but i do know that i've several times seen where an item dropping for alliance wasn't linkable until it dropped for horde |
| 17:11.50 | Fisker- | It was pre-2.0 though |
| 17:11.52 | Tornhoof | i see |
| 17:12.12 | Tornhoof | i just remember the times of crossinspection |
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| 17:12.22 | Fisker- | on our server Alliance was pretty much ages beyond our raid progress |
| 17:12.22 | hyperChipmunk | grennon: all i really care about is shutting all the people up who complain bulkmail doesn't do inbox stuff =P |
| 17:12.28 | grennon | i think the event model is the sanest way to do it, its just slower |
| 17:12.29 | Fisker- | and i remember hearing about the first kill of nefarian |
| 17:12.34 | Fisker- | And the item that dropped was not queryable |
| 17:12.36 | Matrix110 | Tekkub needs to update CorkFU we want EGBERT inside! |
| 17:12.43 | Fisker- | none of them were |
| 17:13.30 | QuantumDelta | hmm Kirkburn, are you the same dude that made Clearfont? |
| 17:14.03 | Kirkburn | QuantumDelta, I am that |
| 17:14.10 | grennon | its not so bad i guess, the timer method just gets throws those mail system errors and hangs when it gets ahead of the mail system |
| 17:14.16 | grennon | so it wont eat mail |
| 17:14.39 | QuantumDelta | when you get some time, I'm having a little trouble getting one of my own fonts to work with the game, could I poke you to see if there's something I missed? |
| 17:14.50 | Saroz | Tigole is my fucking hero |
| 17:14.51 | Saroz | eod |
| 17:14.55 | Fisker- | why? |
| 17:15.09 | Saroz | he is posting on EJ forums :p |
| 17:15.27 | ilifin | well duh |
| 17:15.27 | Saroz | looong post |
| 17:15.29 | Saroz | :p |
| 17:15.32 | Fisker- | LINK US |
| 17:15.32 | ilifin | he got baned from posting on FoH forums |
| 17:15.36 | ilifin | so he went to EJ instead |
| 17:15.39 | Saroz | so? |
| 17:15.40 | Kody- | Yeah link :P |
| 17:15.44 | ilifin | but link plx |
| 17:15.45 | Saroz | http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=375941&postcount=130 |
| 17:16.02 | grennon | the LibPostal way is to check and make sure the item hits your bag if you take an item, or your money increases if you take money, then add a second after that since i still got mail errors checking events |
| 17:16.04 | Fisker- | what guild was it Tigole was in then? |
| 17:16.14 | QuantumDelta | "Blizzard" |
| 17:16.15 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 17:16.23 | Saroz | "A fight that requires 8 tanks is *not* acceptable to the raiding community as a whole." - Tigole |
| 17:18.02 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: the libpostal way is probably overkill, but the ctmailmod way is ducttape, id try to reinvent the wheel and see figure out something more elegant |
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| 17:18.33 | Fisker- | I'll back him up on his black temple statements though |
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| 17:18.43 | Fisker- | They're saying that Black Temple is too easy |
| 17:19.01 | Fisker- | but seriously, besides for the bugged encounters making cockblocks, pretty much every instance was cleared within the day |
| 17:19.44 | FrostByghte | anyone know of an addon that would allow you to request help at certain pvp objectives? |
| 17:19.44 | kov` | except for four horsemen |
| 17:19.57 | kov` | but that's the only exemption :o |
| 17:19.59 | Fisker- | true |
| 17:20.03 | FrostByghte | some sort of one click thing that would name your location in the BG's for example? |
| 17:20.17 | Fisker- | but Naxx was also the point where they really started caring about the PTR imo |
| 17:20.22 | Fisker- | AQ40 had a bit of it, but nuch much |
| 17:20.29 | kov` | i'd rather have it this way than the way it was before 2.1 ._. |
| 17:20.33 | FrostByghte | I found this one here: http://wow.aspide.it/modules.php?name=AlarMods&op=abg |
| 17:20.37 | Fisker- | And the better they got at it, the better encounters they made |
| 17:20.39 | kov` | that was just too discouraging |
| 17:20.39 | Matrix110 | cthun wasnt cleared within 1 day even if he wouldve worked always:P |
| 17:20.41 | Leialyn | they just made a mistake and put on the black temple version that was sheduled to be released after some guilds down Illidan to make it easier for the noob guilds ;) |
| 17:20.43 | FrostByghte | but it does a lot of other stuff as well |
| 17:21.09 | Fisker- | Matrix110, didn't they actually kill him a day after the fixes? |
| 17:21.19 | Matrix110 | well they had over 1month training |
| 17:21.19 | Leialyn | Adirelle_ ? |
| 17:21.37 | Fisker- | It took us no less than a couple of hours to learn the event |
| 17:21.56 | Antiarc|Work | The worst part about cthun was the trash before him. |
| 17:22.12 | Fisker- | Although given that we already had the chance to read the tactics, but still, we were a social guild and pretty much downed him on our second night |
| 17:22.13 | grennon | EJ killed Cthun as soon as the fix went in |
| 17:22.33 | grennon | with the Hakkar buff, Onyxia buff, darkmoon buffs, and every consumable in the game |
| 17:22.37 | Fisker- | I'll bet that if C'Thun had worked as intended it would've been killed on the raidnight, or the following raidnight |
| 17:22.41 | grennon | they beat phase1 in 1.5 beams time |
| 17:22.53 | grennon | and made the dev who was watching shit a brick |
| 17:23.01 | grennon | the guy had no idea the Hakkar buff even existed |
| 17:23.23 | grennon | which is why Naxx turned into a potion chugfest just to beat Patchwerk |
| 17:23.51 | Kaydeethree | oh gah, I remember our first time we fully potted up to try patch |
| 17:23.56 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r38611 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer; fixed stucky |
| 17:23.56 | Kaydeethree | first time I'd ever used a flask |
| 17:23.59 | FrostByghte | I was curious what ad network is wowace.com using for the forum section? |
| 17:24.08 | Matrix110 | there are ads? |
| 17:24.11 | Matrix110 | Oo |
| 17:24.19 | Adirelle | Leialyn: yes ? |
| 17:24.22 | FrostByghte | surely :) |
| 17:24.32 | Matrix110 | <3 AdBlock+ and NoScript |
| 17:24.43 | Leialyn | Adirelle: Can you add a "Damage resisted" field to Violation? |
| 17:24.58 | Adirelle | by yourself or you target ? |
| 17:25.02 | FrostByghte | I don't use those, I like to give back to the sites I visit |
| 17:25.05 | Leialyn | that tracks partly resisted damage of your own spells |
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| 17:25.11 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: all in all, the blizz mail system sucks, its worse than the guild management system |
| 17:25.21 | Leialyn | I want to see how many Damage I loose per fight due to partly resists |
| 17:25.25 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: but sending is more reliable than picking at least |
| 17:25.30 | FrostByghte | basically if you block their ads, they don't get any revenue to help pay for the cost of the service of the site |
| 17:25.43 | QuantumDelta | hmm Kirkburn ran off xP oh well, thanks for the nice addon I'm sure I'll sort it out sooner or later xD |
| 17:26.06 | Kirkburn | QuantumDelta, uh, cool :P |
| 17:27.10 | FrostByghte | anyway, I was curious what ad network wowace.com was using for forums because the majority of networks I've dealt with don't allow for forum display of banner ads...so it would be nice to have one that did :) |
| 17:27.13 | Adirelle | Leialyn: that will merge all targets and all schools, not sure it is really useful |
| 17:27.45 | Ominous | where can i get a copy of 2.1 patch notes? |
| 17:27.49 | Ominous | 2.1.1* |
| 17:28.03 | Kaydeethree | C:\Progra~1\World of Warcraft\Patch.txt |
| 17:28.26 | Kinkx | Patch notes: http://ace.pastey.net/51522 |
| 17:28.42 | Leialyn | Adirelle: that IS usefull |
| 17:28.44 | Kaydeethree | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ too |
| 17:28.53 | Adirelle | why not... won't add much overhead :p |
| 17:29.07 | Kinkx | 2.1.1 isn't listed yet I think |
| 17:29.12 | Adirelle | [Ammo] err... you cleared up SWS spying to that point ? oO |
| 17:30.16 | Kirkburn | Also, the damn wiki has patch notes! |
| 17:30.31 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.1.1_%28Release_Notes%29 :) |
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| 17:32.12 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Feel free to grab it if you want. |
| 17:32.52 | abyssichate | 3% wipe KRJAFjdfd |
| 17:33.54 | Adirelle | quick survey : in a multidisplay Violation, what would you to be common to all display and what to separate amongst theses options : number of bare, window size, texture, scale, locked ? |
| 17:34.55 | kergoth | someone remind me, a frame is a table with no fields by default, but with an __index which is per frametype that acts on the userdata in field 0, right? |
| 17:35.23 | Adirelle | (d'oh, forget windows size, it would be display-specific anyway) |
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| 17:36.02 | kergoth | Adirelle: being able to copy window size between windows would be useful.. for example for consistency i'd want my threat and damage windows to be -exactly- the same size, not a pixel off. |
| 17:36.20 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r38612 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye: frFR Update |
| 17:38.04 | Adirelle | I note |
| 17:39.10 | kergoth | i think itd be nice to have all those options per window, but have methods in your aceoptions to let the user force an option on all the windows to a given value (but after that operation, they'd be able to go change them independently again..) |
| 17:39.11 | kergoth | but *shrug* |
| 17:39.47 | kergoth | hmm, someone should update wowbench :| |
| 17:40.40 | Adirelle | kergoth: I'm more thinking of somethink like an option to copy settings of another window |
| 17:41.08 | Kalman| | Adirelle: What about something like the cdt2 method, a global default and then per-window can be set to default or non-default entry? |
| 17:41.08 | snurre | hmm.. it seems not all SharedMedia textures are shown in !SurfaceControl |
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| 17:41.24 | Adirelle | Kalman|: it's awful to maintain :p |
| 17:41.36 | Kalman| | Adirelle: But convenient to use! :p |
| 17:41.44 | Adirelle | yeah, I know :p |
| 17:42.04 | Adirelle | btw, in Violation, window size and position is draggable |
| 17:42.27 | Adirelle | and number of bars is dynamic |
| 17:42.36 | Adirelle | I remembered it after asking... |
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| 17:43.01 | Adirelle | so the only options left are : locked, scale and texture |
| 17:43.13 | Adirelle | and I think that locked and texture can be kept common |
| 17:43.15 | jme | and multiple windows ;) |
| 17:43.43 | snurre | I hope Violation, Assessment and Omen get options to set window dimentions in numerical values |
| 17:43.56 | Adirelle | (well, I'll go the straith way for now) |
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| 17:44.04 | kergoth | snurre: agreed, i ended up just modifying the sv |
| 17:44.06 | kergoth | heh |
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| 17:45.51 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r38613 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Only show if your focus target is not a player |
| 17:46.08 | shieldb | Daemona, I might have, are you getting a particular error, now? ;) |
| 17:49.41 | kergoth | hm, uiQuery seems nifty, but i'm wondering what real world situations itd be helpful in |
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| 17:51.01 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: cleared SWS spying to what point? |
| 17:51.13 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: I cleaned up the code if that's what you're asking, and it should do pet data now as well |
| 17:52.05 | Adirelle | [Ammo] I saw, it has been very reduced :p |
| 17:52.16 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 17:52.18 | [Ammo] | it's a lot cleaner now |
| 17:52.38 | Adys | is it possible to request current memory used by addons in a /script macro? |
| 17:53.19 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r38614 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer; now all menus are in correct locale |
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| 17:53.32 | Adirelle | erm... for module colors, I think I'm going to take the old 16-colors scheme :p |
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| 17:53.54 | kergoth | Adys: you mean can you get the addon memory usage from lua? that's exactly what 2.1 gained.. |
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| 17:54.16 | Adys | How so? I didnt follow |
| 17:54.52 | Kalman| | Adys: /script UpdateAddonMemoryUsage(); then /dump GetAddonMemoryUsage("addonname") should work. |
| 17:55.00 | Adys | okay thanks |
| 17:56.33 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r38615 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Only show if in a raid too |
| 17:56.44 | kergoth | Adys: what /script lets you do is run arbitrary lua code. anything an addon can do, you can do there. |
| 17:56.50 | kergoth | generally, anyway |
| 17:56.58 | chutwig|work | i used to use /script to do maths |
| 17:57.06 | Adirelle | btw, what the difference between ["**"] and ["*"] in defaults ? |
| 17:57.06 | chutwig|work | when i couldn't find my calculator |
| 17:57.27 | Adys | kergoth: Aye thanks |
| 17:57.30 | chutwig|work | so we'd be sitting around waiting for nef to respawn and i'd be doing my maths in lua |
| 17:57.36 | Adirelle | AceConsole adds a /print commands, quite useful too |
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| 17:58.21 | Neebler | wow I'm sadistic. In regards to my method of keeping myself occupied to keep from falling asleep. I'm watching videos on youtube of modern philosophers, most notably noam chomsky |
| 17:58.45 | Xuerian | Neebler: Why stay awake, and is this state of wakefulness truly better than the evil that is sleep? :P |
| 17:58.48 | kergoth | Adirelle: * is children, ** is siblings |
| 17:58.50 | Neebler | trying to grasp at the language and concepts being used while your eyelids are closing on you is painful for the brain |
| 17:58.54 | kergoth | iirc anyway |
| 17:59.12 | Neebler | xuerian: is it not the sleep that is evil, but the time at which I partake in it |
| 17:59.28 | Xuerian | Neebler: In the western world I tke it? :P |
| 17:59.34 | Neebler | california |
| 17:59.36 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:59.41 | nekoh_ | Antiarc|Work: [2007/06/05 19:52:23-46-x1]: Threat-1.0-38606 (Threat-1.0):489: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
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| 17:59.49 | Xuerian | Neebler: Damn, 11 am? |
| 17:59.56 | Xuerian | What'd you do, pull a all-nighteR? |
| 18:00.01 | Neebler | yes |
| 18:00.08 | Xuerian | Oh. Well, that'd do it. |
| 18:00.09 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 18:00.13 | Neebler | I'm almost over the hump I think |
| 18:00.14 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh_: Hope to have that fixed in a bit |
| 18:00.20 | nekoh | okay |
| 18:00.25 | Xuerian | Any particular reason? :p |
| 18:00.43 | striper | who is actually assigning tickets to devs in the wowace trac? |
| 18:00.43 | Neebler | sick of going to bed at 6AM and waking up to raid at 5 :P |
| 18:00.54 | Xuerian | Haha, geez |
| 18:01.06 | Neebler | which has been a constant over the past month+ |
| 18:01.29 | Neebler | plus its a bitch finding groups for heroics at 1AM |
| 18:01.49 | Xuerian | Neebler: You sound like my friend in oceanic :p |
| 18:01.53 | Neebler | lots of aussies on, in a guild called <vegemite> haha |
| 18:02.12 | Xuerian | Sadistic bastards ;P |
| 18:02.45 | chutwig|work | and he smiled and made me a vegemite sandwichhhhh |
| 18:04.19 | kergoth | man, aceoo is flexible, but even i can get lost in here |
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| 18:04.35 | chutwig|work | oh man i can't wait for my new MBP to finish copying stuff off my macbook |
| 18:04.38 | chutwig|work | anticipation! |
| 18:04.56 | Kemayo | grennon: Yeah, I didn't realize how messed up collecting mail was until I wrote that. |
| 18:05.23 | Kemayo | I started by thinking I could just iterate over all the items in the mailbox and pick them up. Oh, how naive I was... |
| 18:06.36 | grennon | blizzard needs a frigging "MAIL_DELETED_ITS_OKAY_TO_START_COLLECTING_THE_NEXT" event |
| 18:06.47 | grennon | because currently its voodoo |
| 18:07.07 | kergoth | anyone played with making an aceoo class whose created objects are actually the frame tables, not independent ones? |
| 18:07.35 | Neebler | omg I just stumbled upon the solution to my struggle with sleep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs |
| 18:07.52 | grennon | the problem with OpenAll, is that collecting items/money is nice, but users dont want to have to delete mails manually, but if you delete messages in a mod, your playing with fire with how the mail system is |
| 18:08.06 | grennon | not your openall |
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| 18:08.09 | MoonWolf | kergoth, thats insane. |
| 18:08.13 | grennon | i mean all openall type functions |
| 18:08.20 | kergoth | it shouldnt be hard, due to the flexibility Factory gives you.. obviously you couldnt have overlapping methods or things would go kablooey |
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| 18:08.33 | grennon | the typical user wants to park at their mailbox, hit a button, and come back to find zero mails in his inbox |
| 18:08.42 | MoonWolf | kergoth, what would be the advantage ? |
| 18:08.44 | Kemayo | Yup. It works well as a bulkmail companion, just because bulkmail sends messages that get deleted when you collect their items. |
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| 18:09.18 | kergoth | MoonWolf: well, i was thinking about making an aceoo class for something, and realized the api would just end up duplicating the original blizzard api functions for the primary frame for the objects |
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| 18:09.53 | kergoth | so it seemed silly to have an extra table and lots of method duplication when you could just couple the object and the frame |
| 18:10.01 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r38616 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Fixed some ugly bleed on the left |
| 18:10.15 | Xuerian | Neebler: w... t... f. :P |
| 18:10.32 | Xuerian | Neebler: Here, have a laugh: http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-kiss-someone-passionately |
| 18:10.58 | MoonWolf | should be doable (as far as i understand) but be carefull not the assplode stuff all over the interface. |
| 18:11.02 | grennon | Kemayo: and of course, since the mail actually autodeletes, it can create other issues since the mail system is essentically asynchronous to the user but synchronous underneath :-) |
| 18:11.07 | Xuerian | kergoth: Stop making with the sense! It hurts us! IT HURTS USS *HISSS* |
| 18:11.37 | kergoth | specifically, i was thinking about making a timer bar and a timer bar group class, instead of the candybar mixin style |
| 18:11.55 | kergoth | since its essentially a statusbar + some extra frames + a timer... |
| 18:12.01 | MoonWolf | i thought candybar was the holy grail of timerbars. |
| 18:12.02 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:12.29 | kergoth | candybar is nice, i just never did like the api or the use of a string as the identifier |
| 18:12.42 | [Ammo] | kergoth: I pondered on changing it to that as well |
| 18:12.43 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 18:12.51 | [Ammo] | so you could h ave different timerstylez |
| 18:12.53 | [Ammo] | easily |
| 18:13.08 | sbu | mhhh |
| 18:13.15 | sbu | 70000 and 80000 dmg from magtheridon :o |
| 18:13.37 | MoonWolf | okay so in 2 weeks i'll be swimming in free time |
| 18:13.39 | grennon | i should really take that internal lib out of postal, push it to trunk, and see if any of the peanut gallery can come up with ways to tweak it |
| 18:13.43 | MoonWolf | someone suggest an addon the want written. |
| 18:13.53 | grennon | or maybe just bitch on the UI forum that they should fix the mail system over and over |
| 18:14.02 | hyperChipmunk | grennon, Kemayo: how about a two-pass openall? |
| 18:14.36 | hyperChipmunk | first pass collects, second deletes what's left |
| 18:14.52 | hyperChipmunk | that way you can be willy-nilly getting items |
| 18:15.01 | grennon | you would need safeguards, pass 1 could fail due to the backend server lagging, you could run into a sync issue with a mail that autodeletes |
| 18:15.11 | Fisker- | sbu called debris |
| 18:15.15 | grennon | but yeah, two pass sounds better |
| 18:15.15 | sbu | yup |
| 18:15.21 | sbu | but why :o |
| 18:15.22 | hyperChipmunk | and when that's finished, if there's anything that needs deleting, you can do that carefully on the second pass |
| 18:15.23 | sbu | didnt happen before |
| 18:15.37 | hyperChipmunk | but you'd be assured of NOT deleting items |
| 18:15.39 | grennon | maybe cover the mail window with a tablet while its happening to keep the user from mucking things up |
| 18:15.48 | hyperChipmunk | because you don't run pass 2 until all the items are taken |
| 18:16.06 | Kemayo | I'd be wary of ever deleting a mail, just because the user might want to make a letter of it. |
| 18:16.17 | grennon | people make letters? |
| 18:16.20 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i don't delete mail either |
| 18:16.34 | hyperChipmunk | i'd put deletion only as an option, disabled by default |
| 18:16.35 | grennon | the typical person using openall, is mule dumping |
| 18:16.47 | Kemayo | I have. I saved a very nicely written "I'm quitting the game, have all my gold" email from a friend. :D |
| 18:17.04 | grennon | thats your main user of such a feature |
| 18:17.04 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but that stuff autodeletes |
| 18:17.07 | [Liquidor] | Seeing other User Interfaces they sometimes got a FuBar which doesn't have the width of the screen width, is this a hack within the files? Cause I don't seem to be able find anything about it on the web/config. |
| 18:17.22 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: unlock and drag the ends in |
| 18:17.25 | Kemayo | [Liquidor]: Just drag the edges. |
| 18:17.26 | kergoth | [Liquidor]: grab the edge and resize it |
| 18:17.51 | MoonWolf | :P |
| 18:17.58 | hyperChipmunk | the place where people would want items and optionally delete is AH stuff |
| 18:18.06 | [Liquidor] | Thank j00 folks. |
| 18:18.15 | hyperChipmunk | some may want to see who bought, others don't give a darn and just want their $$ |
| 18:19.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38617 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 18:19.12 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Massively rearranged the file. Tried to group methods together |
| 18:19.12 | CIA-22 | logically to make the code easier to navigate. Moved a lot of local declarations |
| 18:19.13 | CIA-22 | to the top of the file. Changed the global threat publish so that only one event |
| 18:19.13 | CIA-22 | per unit is sent. Added Threat_ThreatCleared event which gets triggered on the |
| 18:19.13 | CIA-22 | WIPE_ALL_THREAT command, as well as when the party changes. GUIs should |
| 18:19.15 | CIA-22 | implement this to clean up after party members that leave the party (pets dying, |
| 18:19.18 | Kemayo | It would be pretty easy to just add a second button for "Delete Read", I guess. |
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| 18:19.48 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r38618 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 18:19.48 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:19.48 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Boss: deDE The Mechanar Update |
| 18:19.51 | hyperChipmunk | yea, either way, it's a two-stage approach |
| 18:20.02 | Adirelle | damn I put some random default color and display them in the window title, it's quite ugly :/ |
| 18:20.06 | hyperChipmunk | so i'ma write that in |
| 18:20.16 | grennon | and of course, you want to check and make sure their bags after each take item call |
| 18:20.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38619 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - bugfix |
| 18:20.27 | grennon | aren't full i mean |
| 18:20.32 | Lyfe | i forget if someone told me the answer to this already, but does Omen (or maybe it's part of Threat-1.0) sync with other threat monitors? |
| 18:21.01 | Kalman| | Lyfe: KTM->ThreatLib yes, ThreatLib->KTM no. |
| 18:21.13 | Lyfe | ok. |
| 18:21.29 | Lyfe | thanks. |
| 18:23.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38620 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add new filtering options: _notstart, _notend, and _notmatch |
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| 18:25.19 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r38621 10PostalClerk/: PostalClerk: folder created for initial import |
| 18:25.42 | Elkano | ok, doing 3 weeks worth of dvn updates now... see you in a few hours ;) |
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| 18:26.36 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38622 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Heavy changes; changed the target selection and update mechanism, added friendly target following, implemented Threat_ThreatCleared handler. All drycode and untested; please test and report if broken. |
| 18:26.36 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r38623 10PitBull/HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua: |
| 18:26.36 | CIA-22 | PitBull |
| 18:26.36 | CIA-22 | - possible freezing fix - thanks to Zek |
| 18:28.01 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 18:28.01 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r38624 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 18:28.01 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 18:28.01 | CIA-22 | - added some default module colors, |
| 18:28.02 | CIA-22 | - set the window bar color to the color of the displayed data. |
| 18:28.45 | *** join/#wowace haarm (n=haarm@85-210-32-156.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 18:29.55 | kergoth | http://loop.luaforge.net/ is kinda nice, but not as flexible as i designed aceoo to be. it doesnt seperate class methods from object methods, so only has one inheritence path.. but its root object constructor can accept a table with default values which becomes the new object, which is kinda nifty |
| 18:31.14 | Adirelle | dunno who handles it, but it seems that pet threat is not reset properly in Threat-1.0 |
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| 18:31.22 | Adirelle | (at end of fight I mean) |
| 18:31.28 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r38625 10PostalClerk/ (. PostalClerk-1.0.lua): |
| 18:31.28 | CIA-22 | PostalClerk: |
| 18:31.28 | CIA-22 | -initial import, this is library of mail and mail related functions |
| 18:31.40 | haarm | Adirelle, its highly beta |
| 18:31.40 | Adirelle | or maybe violation has a trouble with it |
| 18:31.52 | kergoth | Adirelle: noticed that. it isnt violation, assessment behaves the same way |
| 18:31.53 | haarm | Adirelle, use omen, not violation, for threat at the moment |
| 18:31.59 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: feel free to use any of those widgets, or make them better |
| 18:32.03 | kergoth | ah, omen doesnt have that problem? |
| 18:32.13 | haarm | well sometimes :D |
| 18:32.16 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: theres also a quick check for free inventory space function in that lib |
| 18:32.19 | hyperChipmunk | grennon: thanks |
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| 18:32.46 | Cryect | Is omen doing something secret that antiarc isn't telling us? :_p |
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| 18:32.48 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: i havent updated any of those functions in three months, so the usual "wow api may have gotten better" applies |
| 18:32.54 | kergoth | i'd still like to see a version of aceoo thats more modular, allowing replacement of -portions- of the processing and class and object initialization rather than having to plug in a completely new class construction mechanism to change a mechanic |
| 18:32.58 | hyperChipmunk | naturally |
| 18:33.25 | hyperChipmunk | i wouldn't put anything in without first grokking it myself |
| 18:33.52 | Adirelle | seems to be related to target threat only |
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| 18:33.58 | pastamancer | kergoth: a proper metaobject protocol? |
| 18:34.03 | Adirelle | that doesn't reset at end of fight, global threat is ok |
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| 18:34.26 | hyperChipmunk | BagLib important? |
| 18:34.30 | Antiarc|Work | I've been testing threat stuff with Omen, and pet stuff has seemed okay for me up till now. I'll test more conclusively though |
| 18:34.33 | pastamancer | kergoth: I might start up work on porting tiny-clos again |
| 18:35.19 | kergoth | pastamancer: its doable currently due to the way i implemented a class just as an object factory.. its easy enough to make a read only class and a read only class factory for example, but Class.init() is substantial, replacing it without calling it would be a pain in the ass |
| 18:35.35 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I'll check Omen too, to see from where it comes from |
| 18:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Be warned that Omen may be broken right now :D |
| 18:36.18 | Antiarc|Work | I just did large-ish reorganizational commit |
| 18:37.21 | Adirelle | hrm... I feel it could be something with Violation |
| 18:37.35 | kergoth | not seeing it in omen? |
| 18:37.45 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: baglib just had a few functions for checking bag space right quick, its in postalclerk |
| 18:37.52 | Adirelle | no, a potentiel bug in TargetThreat module |
| 18:38.10 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: is threat:GetThreat an heavy operation ? |
| 18:38.17 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Shouldn't be too bad. |
| 18:38.18 | grennon | at the time the function "Is there a free bag slot?" didnt exist in any Lib, maybe it does now |
| 18:38.41 | Antiarc|Work | It has a few table lookups and some addition/subtraction |
| 18:39.22 | kergoth | hmm.. creating one class and one object results in -9- calls to getuid() |
| 18:39.27 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r38626 10PostalClerk/PostalClerk-1.0.lua: |
| 18:39.27 | CIA-22 | PostalClerk: |
| 18:39.27 | CIA-22 | -remove baglib reference, its like Ragu, its in here |
| 18:39.47 | Kalman| | grennon: PostalClerk = Postal successor, or? |
| 18:39.48 | Peoii | mmm, ragu... |
| 18:40.26 | Kemayo | Kalman|: As I understand it, PostalClerk is the library used by Postal. |
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| 18:40.55 | kergoth | hmm, is there a lua profiler for 5.1? |
| 18:41.26 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: In general, or for WoW? |
| 18:41.37 | kergoth | in general |
| 18:41.43 | kergoth | luaprofiler doesnt seem to have been updated recently |
| 18:42.04 | grennon | Kalman|: no, its just the functions it uses for processing mail |
| 18:42.49 | sbu | that wow freeze bug is fricking annoying |
| 18:42.55 | grennon | Kalman|: in theory i need to add a sending mail function that sends a mail and checks to make sure the mail is sent before returning a true status to a client app as well to make it more complete |
| 18:43.09 | grennon | the idea was atomic mail functions |
| 18:43.29 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38627 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Removed registration for an unused event. |
| 18:43.38 | hyperChipmunk | it should be more generic though |
| 18:43.56 | hyperChipmunk | it seems tailored to Postal |
| 18:44.04 | hyperChipmunk | by the variable and event names |
| 18:44.24 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r38628 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 18:44.24 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:44.24 | CIA-22 | - changed 'Gatekeeper Gyro-Kill' to 'Gatewatcher Gyro-Kill' to prevent BB error |
| 18:44.27 | Iceroth | is it possible to turn off the report violation prints to chat frame 1 during reset? or change the chat frame? |
| 18:44.39 | kergoth | Iceroth: theres an option to turn it off, yes |
| 18:44.52 | Saroz | hehe, rewrote StatusBars to ace and made it uber simple for what I need, shaved down mem by 500% |
| 18:44.55 | Iceroth | must be blind, where? |
| 18:44.56 | Adirelle | Iceroth: uncheck "print on reset" |
| 18:46.43 | Iceroth | doh, found it |
| 18:46.43 | kergoth | Saroz: StatusBars? |
| 18:46.44 | Saroz | old old old unitframe addon |
| 18:46.44 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:46.44 | Saroz | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/235/ |
| 18:47.21 | Saroz | code makes you cry :p |
| 18:47.22 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: yeah, it does, it suffered from the tunnelvision of me finding duplicate things that postal modules did and combining them in the lib |
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| 18:47.41 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: mind you, i just branched it out, it still doesnt have a .toc even |
| 18:47.41 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38629 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix for :Clear() being called via event before we have any bars set up. |
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| 18:48.39 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: my guess is you might have valuable input on how to make a generic atomic sendmail function though since you made bulkmail do batch sends pretty quickly without erroring the mail system |
| 18:49.33 | [Liquidor] | Hehe I love doing this to AV raids :> http://i12.tinypic.com/4mtrknl.jpg |
| 18:49.49 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r38630 10PostalClerk/PostalClerk-1.0.lua: |
| 18:49.50 | CIA-22 | PostalClerk: |
| 18:49.50 | CIA-22 | -renamed events to PostalClerk_Foo format in accordance with lib coding guidelines |
| 18:50.17 | MoonWolf | [Liquidor], whyyyyy? |
| 18:50.24 | snurre | http://onslaught.playr.co.uk/ |
| 18:50.26 | snurre | so addictive :( |
| 18:51.06 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r38631 10Violation/Threat/ (TargetThreat.lua Threat.lua): Violation: add threat_clear handler. |
| 18:51.09 | Adirelle | MoonWolf: I love your signature on the forum |
| 18:51.16 | MoonWolf | ty |
| 18:51.26 | MoonWolf | i spent at least 5 minutes making it :P |
| 18:51.52 | hyperChipmunk | grennon: i was thinking about using the same technique for getting mail |
| 18:52.06 | Saroz | uhhh colored bars in violation <3 |
| 18:52.14 | Adirelle | [Ammo] you got it, I think you can do the same with GlobalThreat |
| 18:52.28 | [Ammo] | euh? |
| 18:52.30 | [Ammo] | I di |
| 18:52.31 | Saroz | WTB "Only show bars while in [group]/[raid]" feature :p |
| 18:52.32 | [Ammo] | I did |
| 18:52.42 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38632 10OpenAll/OpenAll.lua: OpenAll: Disable inbox clicks while opening all mail. |
| 18:52.43 | Adirelle | [Ammo] nvm |
| 18:53.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38633 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - change the way the filters are handled to be more accurate with type-checking. |
| 18:53.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38634 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix for invalid unit to ThreatLib:UnitInMeleeRange |
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| 18:54.42 | Dustwhisper | So, which mod if any causes game freeze/forced logout on zone ? I quit my game to restart it, come inn again and get gamefreeze and logout, priest in our guild had same issues in SSC yesterday aswell |
| 18:55.07 | Saroz | aguf and pitbull had a fix for that today |
| 18:55.16 | Dustwhisper | aye im using aguf |
| 18:55.30 | Saroz | update :p |
| 18:55.56 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: really, id like you to make bulkmail2 obsolete Postal altogether so i can delete it from the trunk |
| 18:56.27 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38635 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Move a local function back to where it needs to be. |
| 18:56.35 | Kemayo | Postal does a bunch of things that are really outside the traditional scope of BulkMail2, though. |
| 18:57.03 | grennon | Kemayo: yeah, but i can delete any features that are duplicate at least |
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| 18:57.23 | grennon | Kemayo: the idea of a "mail suite" is one most users are used to in the real world |
| 18:58.50 | Kemayo | I'll give you that. It could make BulkMail less niche. |
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| 18:59.08 | Hjalte | Hey, does anyone have a changelog for 2.1.1? |
| 18:59.18 | durcyn | Hjalte: worldofraids.com should. |
| 18:59.22 | durcyn | it's about 4 lines |
| 18:59.24 | Kemayo | I'm fond of my minimalist BulkMail+ExpressMail, though. :) |
| 18:59.33 | Elkano | Hjalte, wowwiki does |
| 18:59.35 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.1.1_%28Release_Notes%29 |
| 18:59.38 | Lyfe | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch2p10.html << 2.1.1 is at the very top. |
| 18:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | I'm thinking of going the route of shift to take, ctrl to return, alt to delete in the expressmail style, then a take-all |
| 19:00.22 | hyperChipmunk | take autodeletes most stuff already |
| 19:00.26 | BankZ | I am thinking about testing Grid tonight, does it have an option to only show when in a group/raid? |
| 19:00.35 | hyperChipmunk | if you do take-all, you're left with the non-auto stuff |
| 19:00.40 | Hjalte | BankZ, yes. |
| 19:01.01 | BankZ | ok, I was using HealBot but thats just oo buggy |
| 19:01.04 | hyperChipmunk | which you can then delete semi-automatically (alt-click) if you want |
| 19:01.05 | BankZ | *too |
| 19:01.09 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38636 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Couple more bugfixes |
| 19:01.09 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r38637 10Violation/ (Threat/TargetThreat.lua Threat/Threat.lua Violation.lua): Violation: added refresh on threat cleanup. |
| 19:01.15 | grennon | Stackable items retrieved from mail will no longer automatically stack in your inventory. This has been disabled pending a future patch fix. |
| 19:01.31 | grennon | see, even blizzard knows the system is crap :-) |
| 19:01.33 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Sounds good to me. |
| 19:01.33 | hyperChipmunk | they actually did that the first day after the patch |
| 19:01.34 | MoonWolf | snurre, i hate you now |
| 19:01.38 | MoonWolf | onslaught is stealing me life |
| 19:01.40 | Kemayo | Yeah, it was hotfixed out. |
| 19:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | that was the "disappearing items" thing |
| 19:01.58 | Adirelle | [Ammo] there's still something borked with Threat modules :/ |
| 19:02.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38638 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - make sure to nil out the reference to ThreatLib.partyUnits after files are loaded. |
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| 19:02.28 | Eyes-t | yo |
| 19:02.34 | Kemayo | On the plus side, if Blizzard is trying to implement new features relating to mail, there's a chance they'll realize how crappy the API is and fix it. :D |
| 19:02.34 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: in what way? |
| 19:02.51 | Eyes-t | I hate the current state of mail in wow |
| 19:03.20 | Adirelle | even with the two last update, I'll still see some threat for my pet |
| 19:03.39 | Adirelle | (on a dead target I mean) |
| 19:03.52 | Adirelle | wait |
| 19:03.56 | Adirelle | no, that's not Violation |
| 19:04.12 | Eyes-t | speaking of threat is there a mod that lets you know your threat is to high? I have ktm but sometimes i forget to see look where Im at on the Threat meter |
| 19:04.24 | Kalman| | snurre: Have you seen DesktopTD? |
| 19:04.28 | Adirelle | selecting another target clears it, if I get back to the dead target, threat shows again |
| 19:04.37 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r38639 10PostalClerk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:04.37 | CIA-22 | PostalClerk: |
| 19:04.37 | CIA-22 | -add toc file, restructure |
| 19:05.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38640 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ThreatClassModuleCore.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - slight optimization |
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| 19:05.43 | grennon | at one point i had an arguement to the functions for parseming mails that would tell it to not purge the message |
| 19:05.49 | Adirelle | gtg |
| 19:06.40 | grennon | essentially, the PurgeMail function's unuseflag was once a nodelete flag |
| 19:07.29 | grennon | it could of course be easily added back |
| 19:08.01 | grennon | so Purgemail essentially tells it "strip this message" |
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| 19:10.25 | Chompers | everything okay with omen? |
| 19:10.29 | Chompers | i keep getting: .\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua line 191: attempt to index field 'Anchor' (a nil value) |
| 19:10.59 | Punkie` | That doesn't really help if you don't specify the revision number |
| 19:11.44 | Ominous | how do you set a frame so you can click through it into UiParent |
| 19:12.10 | kergoth | Ominous: DisableMouse(), then you can click through it, iirc |
| 19:12.18 | Ominous | ah... |
| 19:12.28 | [Ammo] | EnableMouse(false) actually |
| 19:12.48 | kergoth | ah right :) |
| 19:12.48 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 19:12.50 | sdouble | Kalman|, DesktopTD is great |
| 19:13.15 | Aenslaed | ugh. Updated to the newest version of ace, and now omen is spazzing out about aceEvent 2.0 |
| 19:13.31 | [Ammo] | have to put myself to implementing multidisplay for violation |
| 19:14.12 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r38641 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: Ace2: AceOO: In the object uid generation: drop the seperate pad function, no point having an extra functioncall in that code path for no reason, and simplify a bit. |
| 19:14.14 | Chompers | Punkie`: r38622 |
| 19:14.34 | Chompers | would've said it earlier but was mid gruul fight |
| 19:14.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38642 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Bugfixes to target behavior when you have no target and a groupmate's target changes. |
| 19:15.17 | Antiarc|Work | Aenslaed: Omen tends to get a lot of drycode, so expect it to be broken about half the time right now ;) |
| 19:15.45 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: actually, i think i removed the nodelete flag because i got tired of passing it around betweent the functions and event handlers |
| 19:15.47 | Antiarc|Work | I implemented multi-display for Omen last night, but I'm not sure how useful it would be. |
| 19:15.56 | Antiarc|Work | So I reverted and backed that code up. |
| 19:15.57 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: gotta love slacker work ethic |
| 19:16.14 | kergoth | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/38641 - look fine to you? |
| 19:16.40 | Antiarc|Work | Is it possible to easily re-anchor a frame without changing its position? |
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| 19:17.39 | Antiarc|Work | ie, change an anchor point from CENTER to BOTTOM |
| 19:17.41 | Ominous | [Ammo],kergoth: thanks now it only happens when its needed not all the time |
| 19:17.54 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: figure out what the x/y offsets will be relative to the new anchor that'll keep it in the same place... |
| 19:18.06 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: I was afraid you'd say that :P |
| 19:18.10 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 19:18.12 | grennon | hyperChipmunk: or it might have been because im a noob and wasnt sure how global variables worked in embedded libs |
| 19:18.13 | Antiarc|Work | I was hoping there was a built-in method |
| 19:18.14 | [Ammo] | take scale into account |
| 19:18.14 | kergoth | Ominous: ? |
| 19:18.17 | Antiarc|Work | Because I'm teh lazies |
| 19:18.19 | [Ammo] | the mouse think kergoth |
| 19:18.22 | Ominous | the disable mouse thingy |
| 19:18.26 | kergoth | oh right |
| 19:18.37 | kergoth | apparently my memory doesnt even work for like 10 minutes ago. |
| 19:18.40 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:18.42 | Ominous | =D, |
| 19:18.45 | Kaelten | is it possibile to play on a US server with a German client? |
| 19:18.54 | Tuyk | yes |
| 19:19.05 | Tuyk | i play US eith a enGB |
| 19:19.11 | Kaelten | and GetLocale is based on the client correct? |
| 19:19.21 | Tuyk | not sure on that |
| 19:19.31 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, Kaelten |
| 19:19.36 | [Ammo] | I need to wake up |
| 19:19.41 | [Ammo] | was mindlessly dotting up stuff |
| 19:19.43 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: to which one? |
| 19:19.50 | [Ammo] | and then noticed some mob refusing to die |
| 19:19.54 | Antiarc|Work | Locale is based on client |
| 19:19.54 | [Ammo] | turned out to be an elite |
| 19:19.55 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 19:19.58 | Ominous | Kaelten: hows WAU2 coming along |
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| 19:20.31 | Kaelten | is there anyway to get what the server locale is? |
| 19:20.46 | Kaelten | Ominous: we're hoping for a beta in the next week or so :) |
| 19:20.57 | Ominous | Kaelten: nice :) |
| 19:21.08 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Is there even such a thing as a server locale? |
| 19:21.18 | Elkano | kaelten, don't think so since there is no real... |
| 19:21.22 | Ominous | Antiarc: on eu yes |
| 19:21.27 | Ominous | well sort of |
| 19:21.36 | Elkano | you could use a predefined list though |
| 19:21.36 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: not sure, problem I'm running into is that eu and us have some identical server names |
| 19:21.46 | grennon | is wau2 going to have an option to disable packing without creating .unpack folders? |
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| 19:22.09 | Kaelten | grennon, if not in the first release it'll be forthcoming shortly. |
| 19:22.21 | grennon | lots of folders scare the females in my guild |
| 19:22.42 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Why do you need to determine whether you're on an EU or US server? |
| 19:22.51 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: ya kinda |
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| 19:22.57 | pastamancer | Kaelten: can't you use the enGB trick to tell if it's a euro client? |
| 19:23.21 | Kaelten | pastamancer: what if a german is playing on a us server? |
| 19:23.32 | pastamancer | oh, I didn't scroll up far enough |
| 19:23.38 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Maybe try reading the reamlist variable, if you can get to it |
| 19:23.42 | Ominous | Kaleten: then add an option |
| 19:23.47 | Antiarc|Work | See if you're looking an an EU or US realmlist |
| 19:23.58 | haste | just ask the user :p ? |
| 19:23.59 | Fisker- | Kaelten'thas |
| 19:24.01 | Fisker- | imo |
| 19:24.04 | Kaelten | haste: na thats too easy :P |
| 19:24.14 | Antiarc|Work | GetCVar("realmlist") |
| 19:24.28 | Antiarc|Work | If it matches us.logon, it's a US server |
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| 19:26.20 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: why is window size in the TPS menu? |
| 19:26.24 | [Ammo] | on Omen |
| 19:26.33 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo] Copy-paste error, likely! |
| 19:26.34 | Kaelten | hrm I'll try that |
| 19:26.53 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: Oh, that's the TPS window size |
| 19:26.57 | Antiarc|Work | It keeps a sliding time window |
| 19:27.12 | Antiarc|Work | Then looks at your threat change over that window to determine your TPS |
| 19:27.29 | Antiarc|Work | A larger window means smoother TPS numbers, but not necessarily as accurate |
| 19:27.38 | Antiarc|Work | Smaller window means jumpier numbers but more accurate as to what you're doing now |
| 19:27.50 | Ominous | kergoth: what do you think about adding a "General" option which modifies all the units at the same time |
| 19:27.57 | Antiarc|Work | It's mostly there for me to play with to get a feel for what I want to hardcode it to |
| 19:28.06 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 19:28.16 | [Ammo] | I thought it was the whole window size |
| 19:28.18 | [Ammo] | nvm |
| 19:28.19 | Antiarc|Work | I should change the name |
| 19:28.20 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 19:28.22 | Antiarc|Work | It's misleading |
| 19:29.05 | [Ammo] | if you want you can steal the resizing code from vio |
| 19:29.09 | [Ammo] | with the draghandle tc |
| 19:29.10 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 19:29.26 | xt | But why doesnt the TPS work! |
| 19:29.31 | xt | doesnt render for me |
| 19:29.39 | Chompers | hrm, i'm using vista, how do i let wowacepdater modify files? |
| 19:29.55 | Chompers | seems it doesnt have the access |
| 19:30.01 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Likely because I broke it! :) |
| 19:30.05 | Antiarc|Work | I need to test and debug it tonight |
| 19:30.11 | xt | ok, :D |
| 19:30.24 | xt | i got both our MTs to switch to omen, haha |
| 19:31.37 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38643 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix (I think?) to invalid partyID in PartyChanged |
| 19:31.41 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: Just use the proper terminology for it and call it "# of FIR filter taps", that way no one will fuck with it. :) |
| 19:32.12 | [Ammo] | hmm somehow my Ace2 standalone keeps growing in size |
| 19:32.19 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: I don't even know what the hell that means |
| 19:32.25 | Antiarc|Work | Which makes me not want to fuck with it |
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| 19:33.00 | Antiarc|Work | xt: I don't recommend that MTs use Omen just yet |
| 19:33.13 | Antiarc|Work | It's not quite stable enough to be relying on for tank data, since the rest of the raid relies on that |
| 19:33.15 | xt | i know |
| 19:33.17 | xt | they use both |
| 19:34.52 | cotangent | if I run just threatlib but not omen do I broadcast my threat? |
| 19:34.57 | Antiarc|Work | cotangent: Yes |
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| 19:35.56 | Killmore | interesting.. |
| 19:36.16 | Killmore | Ora2 is including threat-1.0 ? |
| 19:36.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38644 10Omen/ (OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Use scary-looking name for the TPS window size. |
| 19:36.24 | Antiarc|Work | It is? |
| 19:36.39 | Killmore | its a question, dont kniow |
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| 19:38.12 | Killmore | nop. |
| 19:39.13 | Cryect | Haha at Kalman| :-p |
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| 19:39.27 | Eyes-t | Hi |
| 19:40.05 | Eyes-t | quick question, is there a addon that allows aol, msn messenger into game screen without having to alt-tab to chat? |
| 19:40.08 | kergoth | hmm. |
| 19:40.19 | Antiarc|Work | Eyes-t: Yeah, it's called "Dual-monitor setup" |
| 19:40.21 | Antiarc|Work | :) |
| 19:40.23 | kergoth | Eyes-t: that wouldnt be an addon, thatd be an independent application. |
| 19:40.23 | Antiarc|Work | (No, there isn't) |
| 19:40.34 | Chompers | any tips for gruul? we're getting alot of deaths when we're thrown in the air |
| 19:40.37 | Cryect | Kalman| I'm afraid Most CS people don't really know the term tap :-p |
| 19:40.38 | durcyn | just run in windowed mode if it matters that much to you |
| 19:40.43 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Tell people to run away from each other |
| 19:40.45 | durcyn | Chompers: spread out so you don't blow eachotehr up |
| 19:40.46 | Killmore | Chompers: use safe spot |
| 19:40.52 | durcyn | other* |
| 19:40.56 | Zurk | So, assessement. |
| 19:40.58 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Rogues can use Cloak of Shadows before they get slowed to avoid getting slowed |
| 19:41.01 | kergoth | and there's something along those lines, there's a messaging system for gamers specifically, wwhere you can see what your friends are playing, and it provides the ability to open im windows within the game display |
| 19:41.04 | Antiarc|Work | Which lets them run out of Gruul's LOS and avoid Shatter |
| 19:41.09 | Zurk | What's this addon about? Looks promising |
| 19:41.11 | Eyes-t | i cant duel moniter not enough space lol |
| 19:41.24 | Killmore | Chompers: hug the wall, tree, rock |
| 19:41.30 | Cryect | xfire I think kergoth is talking about |
| 19:41.34 | kergoth | thats the one |
| 19:41.37 | kergoth | my memory failed me as usual |
| 19:41.38 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:41.39 | Chompers | ah right, thanks |
| 19:41.55 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Make sure everyone is topped off before Shatter |
| 19:41.59 | Eyes-t | yeah but not all my friends are gamers and use x-fire |
| 19:42.08 | Antiarc|Work | You should be able to take getting shattered by 2-3 people pretty easily, usually |
| 19:42.14 | cotangent | have your OT stand in the rocks early on if they need rage |
| 19:42.22 | cotangent | healing is easy at the start |
| 19:42.39 | cotangent | might not be as big of an issue with a druid OT |
| 19:42.40 | Cryect | Eyes-t don't worry if MS gets their way then everyone will use Microsoft Live! which does the same stuff essentially ;-p |
| 19:43.07 | Eyes-t | :( also any tips are running wow on linux? |
| 19:43.09 | Cryect | Bigger issue with druid OT is making sure the druid OT doesn't overpull the MT >_> |
| 19:43.33 | Kalman| | Eyes-t: Logitech G15 keyboard and MirandaIM. |
| 19:43.40 | Kalman| | For the IM thing. |
| 19:43.41 | cotangent | well I overpulled the warrior the other day as a warrior because I was abusing the healers and talked my way into a group with windfury |
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| 19:44.01 | Eyes-t | Logitech G15 i have, thanks for mirandaIM |
| 19:44.17 | erb | my guild really has no warriors anymore |
| 19:44.20 | erb | hooray for druid tanks |
| 19:44.52 | erb | we've not yet passed karazhan in progression though. will our mainly druid tanking staff be suitable through gruul and beyond would you with experience know? |
| 19:44.53 | Cryect | haha why not? I like druids and all (I happen to be one so yeah) but still prefer the warrior MT |
| 19:44.59 | Cryect | oh you are in karazhan |
| 19:45.03 | Cryect | yeah doesn't matter there at all |
| 19:45.16 | cotangent | how do you do nightbane? fearward? |
| 19:45.20 | erb | yeah FW |
| 19:45.28 | Cryect | you can do nightbane without fearward or without shamans |
| 19:45.37 | Cryect | we've had druids tank it just PvP trinket |
| 19:45.43 | erb | whats a shammy's specific roll with nightbane? |
| 19:45.52 | cotangent | two minute cooldown on a 30 sec fear? |
| 19:45.55 | erb | (we're alliance) |
| 19:45.55 | hypetech | tremor totem would be nice methinks |
| 19:46.01 | Cryect | cotangent he doesn't fear every 30 seconds |
| 19:46.02 | erb | casual raiding guild |
| 19:46.07 | erb | i know nothing about shammys :) |
| 19:46.15 | Cryect | shamans can drop tremor totem to break the fear |
| 19:46.17 | cotangent | he can fear as soon as 30 sec after the last one |
| 19:46.17 | hypetech | any wowace mods that are something like the mod "tactics"? |
| 19:46.22 | erb | good idea cry |
| 19:46.24 | erb | thanks |
| 19:46.39 | cotangent | I know it's more often then two minutes |
| 19:46.48 | Cryect | cotangent shrug he doesn't though there is plenty of time |
| 19:46.50 | kergoth | woot, my 5 https://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=4146185&RSKU=4146185 shipped. hurray for backups |
| 19:46.57 | Cryect | because he fears once a ground phase |
| 19:47.03 | Cryect | then air phase its 1 minute |
| 19:47.06 | kergoth | hmmmmm |
| 19:47.07 | cotangent | well if you can do enough dps that he only gets one per air then yea |
| 19:47.11 | Cryect | depends really how long you let your ground phase is :-; |
| 19:47.52 | Chompers | oooh, gruul to 50% on our 3rd attempt |
| 19:48.03 | Chompers | not that bad i guess |
| 19:48.05 | Cryect | its still slightly luck based though |
| 19:48.17 | cotangent | yeah with good dps that should work really |
| 19:48.22 | erb | prince for us is all luck |
| 19:48.41 | erb | sometime the infernals decide to spawn ontop each other in impossible spots |
| 19:49.01 | hypetech | what does littlewigs do exactly? |
| 19:49.42 | kergoth | hypetech: it's bigwigs but for the 5 mans |
| 19:50.32 | erb | oh yah? |
| 19:50.33 | erb | very nice |
| 19:50.36 | hypetech | hmm |
| 19:50.50 | hypetech | kergoth: know of any wowace mods that work like tactics? |
| 19:51.05 | kergoth | not offhand :\ |
| 19:51.15 | hypetech | would be nice addition to littlewigs ^_^ |
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| 19:52.19 | hypetech | can I run littlewigs without bigwigs installed? |
| 19:52.33 | Killmore | nop |
| 19:52.41 | hypetech | grr |
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| 19:53.25 | Kaelten | does wuu's author hang out in here? |
| 19:53.34 | Killmore | maybe you can delete /ssc /outlands etc... |
| 19:53.40 | kergoth | hypetech: it's just some bigwigs modules. all of the modules bigwigs includes can be made LoD, so it isnt any extra overhead.. |
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| 19:53.43 | kergoth | just core + the modules you need |
| 19:55.03 | hypetech | I'm not worried about the overhead, it's just that I prefer dbm for the raid bosses. It's more accurate for a lot of the encounters I've been in. I'll just bite the bullet with bigwigs for now and use transcriptor religiously to help vhaarr out :p |
| 19:56.17 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
| 19:56.18 | Fisker- | I FUCKING WIN |
| 19:56.19 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=292060486&postId=2916847656&sid=1#3 |
| 19:56.34 | nymbia | Fisker-: but you're still terrible ;) |
| 19:57.06 | hypetech | wtf nihilum downed illidan? |
| 19:57.17 | hypetech | they just got mother sharahz yesterday -.- |
| 19:57.37 | jme | yesterday was illidari council |
| 19:57.44 | Fisker- | http://casualkeyboard.ytmnd.com/ <-hahahaha the F-keys should all be F5 though |
| 19:57.56 | Fisker- | btw nymbia |
| 19:58.10 | Fisker- | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6558.msg108477#new <-i wrote your todo list down for you |
| 19:58.20 | nymbia | Fisker-: rofl |
| 19:58.30 | hypetech | that's crazy |
| 19:58.39 | hypetech | I can't believe they downed him already. That's awesome :) |
| 19:58.53 | nevcairiel | thats not awesome |
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| 19:58.59 | hypetech | ? |
| 19:59.13 | nevcairiel | thats ridiculous |
| 19:59.27 | hypetech | why does everybody hate on them? they live and breathe this game. you have to give them props for the organization and discipline it takes to progess that fast |
| 19:59.37 | kebinusan | nymbia: ping |
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| 20:00.30 | Cheads | "To be honest, Nihilum steamrolling through the instance just means that it can be considered as doable by the rest of the 99.9% of the server that isn't as leet as Nihilum are" ;O) |
| 20:00.44 | hypetech | I find it humorous that the mage in the screenshot at the illidan kill is still wearing spellstrike hood and spellfire robe |
| 20:00.45 | nymbia | kebinusan: pong |
| 20:00.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:02.04 | nevcairiel | black temple was supposed to be the highend instant until next expansion |
| 20:02.05 | kebinusan | the tattle dataminer seems broken, I run it and it runs very quickly but there is no data being added |
| 20:02.05 | nevcairiel | its just ridiculous thats its been beaten after 2 weeks |
| 20:02.05 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: I concur |
| 20:02.05 | Fisker- | hypetech fast? |
| 20:02.05 | Fisker- | To be honest it isn't that fast at all |
| 20:02.05 | hyperChipmunk | 2wk + how long was it on PTR? |
| 20:02.05 | ckknight | kergoth: that AceOO diff is fine |
| 20:02.23 | hypetech | one guild... |
| 20:02.37 | Killmore | curse is near |
| 20:02.40 | hypetech | and they haven't cleared hyjal yet btw |
| 20:02.58 | Killmore | they are on illidan |
| 20:02.58 | nevcairiel | imho its just too easy |
| 20:03.07 | Kalman| | nevcairiel: They were doing 10-14 hour runs, so that 2 weeks is really underestimating the time input. |
| 20:03.14 | Fisker- | nevcairiel i'd wager you that any instance besides Naxx could've been completed within 1 week if there were no bugs in the encounters and instances |
| 20:03.18 | Cheads | 2months on ptr.. +2 weeks.. sounds nice for the guild that raids the most and hardest. Gives the rest some hope that we will one day see it |
| 20:03.18 | Kazie | Anyone who knows about priest addons? |
| 20:03.20 | hyperChipmunk | and how long on PTr |
| 20:03.33 | nevcairiel | Kalman|: they did the same time on naxx, and it took quite a while until kel was down |
| 20:03.34 | hypetech | if it was easy, everybody would be there. you have to understand that they raid constantly |
| 20:03.48 | Fisker- | They were on Chromaggus on the first or second day of BWL, and 90% of the raiding force was stuck at Razorgore because it was considered exploitation to venture past the locked gate |
| 20:03.58 | Fisker- | AQ40, Twin emps first day, 2-3 months of agony on c'thun |
| 20:03.59 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: A large part of that was likely the 4H cockblock, though |
| 20:04.01 | Kalman| | nevcairiel: KT went down within what, a week of 4H? 4H was the sole block in that zone. |
| 20:04.24 | Antiarc|Work | The Dreadnaught set bonus being required for that fight meant that you were just going to spend some time gearing to even be able to do it. |
| 20:04.34 | Fisker- | Naxx was the only hard instance as such, and that just destroyed a lot of guilds given all the consumable requirements, but pretty much everything besides 4 Horsemen was easy |
| 20:04.35 | Antiarc|Work | Doesn't matter how leet you are if the RNG pwns your face. |
| 20:04.39 | Cheads | naxx also took around 2 weeks (if you dont consider the 4H wall) |
| 20:04.46 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: issue |
| 20:04.51 | nevcairiel | imho gearing up before being able to defeat some bosses is a good thing |
| 20:04.54 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Lay it on me |
| 20:04.59 | hypetech | they have put in as much time played as other well disciplined guilds will to clear BT, they just compacted it a lot more in terms of real world time |
| 20:05.14 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: for ThreatLibNPCModuleCore, CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL has arg1/arg2 reversed, I believe |
| 20:05.26 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I think it's name, yell |
| 20:05.28 | Antiarc|Work | Though I could be wrong |
| 20:05.31 | Antiarc|Work | Emote is emote, name |
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| 20:05.38 | ckknight | wowwiki says otherwise |
| 20:05.46 | Antiarc|Work | Link? |
| 20:05.51 | Cheads | oh well.. I dont care about BT.. still strugling in KZ :/ too hard for us casuals |
| 20:05.52 | Antiarc|Work | I wrote those after dumping the args to my chat log |
| 20:05.54 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(Full_List) |
| 20:06.04 | ckknight | and go to CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL |
| 20:06.06 | nymbia | kebinusan: yeah, they screwed with the armory.. i'll take a look |
| 20:06.25 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 20:06.29 | hypetech | every time blizzard patches, god kills a kitten -.- |
| 20:06.33 | nevcairiel | just saying that i dont think its good that a new instance has been totally beaten after 2 weeks afte release. not that i care, the content will prolly just be enough for my guild to work on until next expansion |
| 20:06.45 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. I'll change it to be consistent with wowwiki for now and test it tonight |
| 20:07.12 | hypetech | nevcairiel: which is exactly the point. If the instance was made for a guild like nihilium to take months on, no normal guilds, even hardcore raiding, would ever see it |
| 20:07.44 | kebinusan | nihilium is gonna be pretty bored for a while |
| 20:07.52 | nevcairiel | they could solve it by not making the encounters harder, but just require certain items. so you have to spend some time, which a normal guild will do. |
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| 20:08.06 | kebinusan | Id expect them to come out and say that they were too conservative when they retuned encounters w/o consumables |
| 20:08.12 | kebinusan | and they'll be buffed |
| 20:08.32 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38645 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Reversed arg usage in CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL |
| 20:08.45 | hypetech | well you also have to remember that nihilum completely skips the farming for consumables phase of the game by buying gold |
| 20:08.46 | Cheads | just make the raid content so more players actually will see it... I mean on my server none even managed to kill kelthuzad or sapphiron before TBC =) |
| 20:09.31 | nevcairiel | i loved naxx, great instance |
| 20:09.42 | nevcairiel | too bad all that BC rush destroyed motivation in our guild |
| 20:09.50 | nevcairiel | and we didnt actually kill Kel anymore |
| 20:10.05 | hypetech | ya, our guild won't do naxx :( they aren't up to the challenge of the "trick fights" :( |
| 20:10.47 | durcyn | it's a shame, naxx is great training for ssc/tk |
| 20:10.51 | Arrowmaster | my guild never even got far in aq40 =( |
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| 20:10.58 | nevcairiel | yeah, you do notice who has been raiding in naxx, and who stepped up from casual now with BC |
| 20:11.05 | durcyn | tempted to drag my guild back to patchwerk and say "this is how you heal, next time we're at morogrim don't forget." |
| 20:11.19 | Cheads | I must admit that raiding since bwl has been crap.. too hard bosses for casual raiding guilds |
| 20:11.20 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 20:11.24 | kergoth | got it. i have an aceoo object which is also a frame object. instead of inheriting the parent's proto, it copies the parent's proto's methods into the frame object, treating the parent as a mixin rather than a normal class. |
| 20:11.24 | Arrowmaster | lot of people didnt see the gear as upgrades so getting people to show up to learn the encounters was hard |
| 20:11.28 | kergoth | why? because i can |
| 20:11.33 | Elkano | ok, I don't see cides problem with EBBs... 200kb + libs isn't that much |
| 20:11.43 | nevcairiel | heigan was so fun, half the raid died, and you always think "man, the suckers got what they deserved again =P" |
| 20:11.58 | durcyn | i loved heigan. best encounter ever. |
| 20:12.14 | durcyn | "what the fuck do you mean you don't know how to strafe?" |
| 20:12.26 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:12.38 | ckknight | good times, snurre |
| 20:12.43 | Killmore | snurre: link? |
| 20:12.50 | ckknight | snurre: might be worthwhile to use more than one character |
| 20:12.57 | snurre | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=51445770&postId=2917346648&sid=1#1815 |
| 20:13.13 | Elkano | snurre, just spreaded it on my guild ^^ |
| 20:13.37 | snurre | my guild has converted completely.. but we're not really raiding atm anyway |
| 20:13.55 | snurre | not a single KTM user in our 16man gruul raid :p |
| 20:14.09 | Cheads | ;O) |
| 20:14.25 | snurre | and yes, theyre all loving you for it :p |
| 20:14.51 | shieldb | I still say vashj is the biggest incentive to switch to omen for a raid :) |
| 20:14.52 | hypetech | our GL isn't convinced it's raid ready yet, so he won't let everybody drop KTM |
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| 20:15.10 | Fisker- | tell him he's a fag then |
| 20:15.11 | nekoh | we're on vashj right now :P |
| 20:15.23 | ckknight | frankly, what I think needs to happen is for Threat-1.0 to send data to KTM, even if it's not fully accurate |
| 20:15.34 | hypetech | I agree |
| 20:15.42 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32374 <-- WANT |
| 20:15.52 | erb | does omen sync with ktm? |
| 20:15.55 | kebinusan | NeoTron: warlock staff |
| 20:15.57 | kergoth | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/51967 |
| 20:16.00 | shieldb | phase1 on vashj is just about controlling the fight and not losing anyone (no time rush or anything), so dps isn't as important as not passing the tank in aggro and getting oneshot with her bow |
| 20:16.01 | snurre | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32837 lawl, already uploaded |
| 20:16.12 | NeoTron | kebinusan: well not affliction but destruction |
| 20:16.14 | nevcairiel | erb: omen receives data from KTM users, but doesnt send to them. ( yet ) |
| 20:16.18 | Fisker- | yeah snurre |
| 20:16.20 | shieldb | sadly ktm thinks that damage you do to other players with static charge counts for threat, so it's horribly horribly wrong |
| 20:16.26 | Fisker- | took me 10 minutes for a +10 rating ;D |
| 20:16.31 | Fisker- | i win! |
| 20:16.35 | erb | ckknight did you notice pitbull frames lagging a raiding enviroment last week? |
| 20:16.36 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:16.38 | hypetech | btw, I noticed in heroic sethekk halls last night, on the first 2 guards, the threat seemed accurate when we focused fire on the first guard, but when I switched target to the second guard, that only the tank had attacked so far, both mages were on top of threat for that mob and stayed there, but we didn't pull aggro |
| 20:16.39 | Arrowmaster | 04:15:57 table: 0EDA7330: ThreatLib is still in development, ...... |
| 20:16.47 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: I'm the author and I don't think it's raid ready yet. |
| 20:16.57 | Antiarc|Work | Not as a full replacement anyway |
| 20:16.59 | Antiarc|Work | It's close |
| 20:16.59 | NeoTron | hypetech: same name |
| 20:17.01 | Antiarc|Work | But not quite there. |
| 20:17.03 | shieldb | hypetech, if they are named the exact same then that's to be expected |
| 20:17.04 | NeoTron | so you can't really separate them |
| 20:17.05 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38646 10Tattle/ (data.lua dataminer.lua): Tattle: Hopefully fix for armory format changes. |
| 20:17.10 | hypetech | ah, that's right |
| 20:17.10 | hypetech | hmm |
| 20:17.13 | nymbia | kebinusan: ^ |
| 20:17.20 | hypetech | soo...that sucks heh |
| 20:17.27 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, but there's nothing to do about it |
| 20:17.31 | kergoth | ~lart blizzard |
| 20:17.31 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in blizzard's direction, hitting blizzard and sending blizzard flying into the closet |
| 20:17.35 | hypetech | so how does KTM handle it? |
| 20:17.39 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: startup message has a bug "04:15:57 table: 0EDA7330: ThreatLib is still in development,...." |
| 20:17.39 | shieldb | it doesn't |
| 20:17.42 | ckknight | kergoth: interesting |
| 20:17.43 | shieldb | exact same issue with ktm |
| 20:17.44 | Antiarc|Work | KTM accumulates all threat on all targets. |
| 20:17.46 | kergoth | hypetech: ktm doesnt have target specific threat |
| 20:17.46 | ckknight | erb: yes, I did. Update. |
| 20:17.49 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: Heh, yeah |
| 20:18.07 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: I'm not gonna stress that too much since it'll disappear once Threat is stable :) |
| 20:18.13 | kergoth | ckknight: i was bored, and someone had asked me once long ago if it was possible to make an aceoo object also a frame. heh |
| 20:18.14 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I'll fix the message. |
| 20:18.24 | erb | thanks ckk |
| 20:18.30 | hypetech | so in a room full of mobs of the same name, all threat meters are useless after the first mob? |
| 20:18.34 | kergoth | i think it was indy, come to think of it |
| 20:18.35 | erb | was afraid to try again |
| 20:18.36 | shieldb | yep |
| 20:18.41 | erb | i'm a hunter so timing is crucial |
| 20:18.47 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: btw, mind if I nuke AceConsole in Threat-1.0? |
| 20:18.49 | hypetech | damn...well at least KTM tricks you into thinking it's doing something :p |
| 20:18.50 | erb | it was only laggy in a raid too so i never noticed it farming or whatever |
| 20:19.06 | shieldb | the only thing you have to go off of is "WarriorJoe hits Scarymob for 500 damage" |
| 20:19.11 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: no it doesnt |
| 20:19.19 | nymbia | tostring's less fun with no AceAddon mixin ;) |
| 20:19.22 | shieldb | there isn't an indication as to if there are six different mobs named Scarymob or just one |
| 20:19.34 | Arrowmaster | ktm is mostly useless anyway without the mastertarget set when fighting more than 1 mob |
| 20:19.34 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Hrm. Yeah, that's fine. Put in Print and PrintLiteral local replacements or something so that I don't have to use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage for debugging ;) |
| 20:19.57 | hypetech | Is the KTM master target feature able to differentiate between same name mobs? |
| 20:20.02 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:20.03 | shieldb | nope |
| 20:20.04 | ckknight | oh, well, debugging may be separate, if you plan to take it out later... |
| 20:20.11 | shieldb | it just filters it so it only counts threat vs. the named mob |
| 20:20.12 | ckknight | or just optionally require AceConsole would do |
| 20:20.15 | hypetech | so why don't you just have threat reset when a mob dies? |
| 20:20.28 | Arrowmaster | because thats not accurate at all |
| 20:20.39 | hypetech | grrr...sounds like a blizzard design flaw imo |
| 20:20.44 | shieldb | a healer would still have global aggro across the remaining mobs |
| 20:20.49 | kergoth | ckknight: the only annoyance is having to duplicate parts of class_new, thats why i want to, someday, add the ability to replace portions of the class and object initialization logic, so you can do such things, or drop in a new inheritence mechanism, without code duplication.. but i really dont know how to do that yet without imposing extra overhead, at least one function call per "module" of the initialization |
| 20:20.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:20.51 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I mostly just want a convenient way to dump debug data when necessary :) |
| 20:20.58 | Antiarc|Work | I don't really need AceConsole beyond that |
| 20:20.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38647 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make ThreatLib's __tostring work properly. |
| 20:21.04 | Arrowmaster | sounds like a 'blizzard never intended there to be threat meters in the first place' flaw to me |
| 20:21.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38648 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - whoops, typo |
| 20:21.26 | hypetech | so if I drop KTM and only use Omen/Threat-1.0, nobody that's just using KTM is going to see my threat right? |
| 20:21.33 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 20:21.36 | shieldb | correct |
| 20:21.46 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: well, just do AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("stuffs") |
| 20:21.49 | shieldb | if you play a non-critical role that's fine |
| 20:21.53 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: instead of self:Print |
| 20:22.00 | shieldb | like I play a rogue, so I don't care if people running KTM see my threat or not |
| 20:22.04 | shieldb | it's there for my benefitr |
| 20:22.20 | shieldb | whereas if our tanks all dropped KTM and went to omen, the people still running KTM would care quite a bit, I'd wager |
| 20:22.25 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that's true. |
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| 20:22.28 | hypetech | right...but if nobody can see my threat, they get grumpy |
| 20:22.54 | NightHawkTheSane | shieldb: of course, getting the tanks to switch is the best way to get the guild to. ;) |
| 20:23.35 | Arrowmaster | if you have a fuckup on gruul and rogues start evasion tanking the strikes then it would be important for others to know your threat |
| 20:23.35 | shieldb | tell them to run omen instead because omen can see threat from KTM and Omen/Threat-1.0 can see both ;) |
| 20:23.35 | shieldb | ninja convert them that way heh |
| 20:23.36 | hypetech | arrowmaster: exactly |
| 20:23.48 | hypetech | well I've managed to get omen to the point where it is highly discussed right now and we have a few randoms testing it |
| 20:23.51 | hypetech | trying to make the move :p |
| 20:24.07 | hypetech | has the author of KTM noticed that he now has competition? |
| 20:24.08 | hypetech | heh |
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| 20:24.22 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:24.28 | hypetech | any response? |
| 20:24.30 | Kalman| | hypetech: He has "had a brainstorm, and has lots of new ideas for 2.0." |
| 20:24.36 | hypetech | interesting |
| 20:24.47 | shieldb | was there a svn account request shortly after that? :P |
| 20:24.47 | hypetech | I smell code-stealing |
| 20:24.48 | vodrin | a wrapper for threat-1.0 |
| 20:24.48 | hypetech | haha |
| 20:24.53 | Arrowmaster | he was trying to defend ktms preformance in the EJ threat-1.0 thread |
| 20:25.14 | kergoth | how can you defend that level of cpu usage even when idle? it's a joke. |
| 20:25.19 | Antiarc|Work | As I've said before, if Threat inspires him to really kick KTM's development into overdrive and make it a serious competitor, I'm all for it. |
| 20:25.29 | MoonWolf | we alway's knew that ktm was a joke code wise |
| 20:25.29 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: simple, "you're not using it anyway!" :P |
| 20:25.30 | grennon | competition makes mods better |
| 20:25.32 | kergoth | somehow i doubt he's capable of that, but ya never know |
| 20:25.35 | kergoth | NightHawkTheSane: hahah |
| 20:25.42 | MoonWolf | never thought it could get down this much though |
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| 20:25.47 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: i dont see that really happen, somehow. |
| 20:25.47 | Cryect | that was his essential arguement |
| 20:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: i'm seriously not even kidding, that's teh defense used by -multiple- people |
| 20:26.01 | Cryect | if you are idle why do you care what your framerate is |
| 20:26.02 | hypetech | well until now, he's never really had a reason to optimize it |
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| 20:26.10 | kergoth | that's mind boggling |
| 20:26.11 | vodrin | i don't think you should be too harsh on him though |
| 20:26.15 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: I don't either, but as far as I'm concerned, he can steal all the ideas/code he wants, because the net result will be better products for the community. :) |
| 20:26.25 | NightHawkTheSane | vodrin: no, you SHOULD be harsh on him. He's an arrogant prick. |
| 20:26.26 | Antiarc|Work | (Plus, the code is LGPL, so if he steals code, then KTM becomes LGPL :D) |
| 20:26.29 | grennon | today i wrote the nubs in my guild instructions for getting threat+omen, it wasnt pleasant |
| 20:26.32 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 20:26.46 | kergoth | hypetech: a good developer takes pride in his work, and makes it do well just so it does well, not out of some sort of pressure. |
| 20:26.47 | grennon | theres was way too much explaining to do |
| 20:26.49 | kergoth | ~hubris |
| 20:26.51 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. <Hubris> - Eating their cake, too. |
| 20:26.51 | Arrowmaster | i dont think kenco realizes that function calls cost overhead |
| 20:26.58 | kergoth | .. |
| 20:27.01 | kergoth | wtf |
| 20:27.02 | kergoth | cake? |
| 20:27.03 | grennon | if Omen is loaded before standalone Threat-1.0, it will load the version bundled in Omen, correct? |
| 20:27.04 | kergoth | jackasses. |
| 20:27.05 | Cryect | Heh not sure why people are trying to convert their guilds before threat is ready yet |
| 20:27.11 | hypetech | looks like KTM was updated a week ago? anybody read the changelog? |
| 20:27.16 | hypetech | or noticed any difference? |
| 20:27.19 | MoonWolf | grennon, if that one is newer then yes. |
| 20:27.20 | durcyn | grennon: should be set as an OptDep |
| 20:27.21 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: I don't think he does. He thinks that "function a() end; a()" is free. |
| 20:27.24 | kergoth | purl: no, hubris is <reply> HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 20:27.26 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 20:27.26 | durcyn | oh, with embedded, nm |
| 20:27.54 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: do the npc modules use AceComm themselves? |
| 20:27.58 | grennon | the embedded one will get loaded regardless of which is newer since O < T, right? |
| 20:28.13 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Shouldn't, no. They should only invoke methods on the ThreatLib core, which does the comm. |
| 20:28.13 | jme | so is threat+omen successfully used in raids yet? |
| 20:28.21 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Semi-successfully :) |
| 20:28.25 | grennon | and in theory, frontends should change less than the backend |
| 20:28.26 | Arrowmaster | if you have standalone and embedded, the standalone should get loaded first since its an optdep |
| 20:28.28 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: k, removing the AceComm embed from them, then |
| 20:28.29 | Chompers | its working well in gruuls jme |
| 20:28.32 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ah, heh |
| 20:28.32 | Cryect | well unless it has optional dep's set |
| 20:28.34 | Chompers | but it varies from boss to boss |
| 20:28.38 | kergoth | grennon: no.. the latest is always the one running, regardless of load order. |
| 20:28.50 | Cryect | it just takes a moment to clear out the old ones though |
| 20:29.07 | Cryect | meaning next time it decides to GC :-p |
| 20:29.09 | hypetech | I think the hardest thing to get used to will be the threat changing on its own when you switch targets, but that's a good change :) |
| 20:29.24 | durcyn | jme i've been using it for a week or so, no complaints. |
| 20:29.37 | jme | that's cool |
| 20:30.38 | grennon | but they would still need to run standalone threat then, since typically it will be updated due to talents, new gears, new bosses, etc whereas frontends should reach a bugfix state |
| 20:30.55 | MoonWolf | threat is simply a very dynamic thing |
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| 20:31.57 | grennon | maybe threat shouldnt be embedded at all |
| 20:32.17 | ckknight | disagree |
| 20:32.28 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 20:32.35 | ckknight | with WAU and such, the addons are updated when their libs are. |
| 20:33.25 | hypetech | what would it take to get blizzard to implement something where mobs of the same name could be differentiated? |
| 20:33.25 | MoonWolf | if people are not unembedding them (grr) |
| 20:33.25 | Josh_Borke | never gonna happen |
| 20:33.25 | MoonWolf | hypetech, an exploit. |
| 20:33.25 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: Slouken's said it'll never happen |
| 20:33.25 | grennon | so the autobuilder autobuilds packages for updated externals now? |
| 20:33.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38649 10Threat-1.0/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Threat-1.0 - remove AceComm dependency. Note: ThreatLib:Dump* methods still require it to be available, but they're non-crucial debugging methods. |
| 20:34.08 | grennon | you have to remember, ive been in a cave for 4 months |
| 20:34.08 | Cartas | It's not really THAT needed anyways... having them all uniquely identified, right? :o |
| 20:34.26 | ckknight | grennon: yes |
| 20:34.27 | Kalman| | Er, ckknight: AceComm or AceConsole? |
| 20:34.38 | ckknight | whoops |
| 20:34.39 | ckknight | AceConsole |
| 20:34.41 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 20:35.20 | hypetech | so where do I send transcriptor logs to for bigwigs/littlewigs? |
| 20:35.28 | ckknight | Threat-1.0 now only requires AceLibrary, AceOO, AceEvent, AceComm, and AceLocale (for Babble) in the core Ace2 stuff |
| 20:35.36 | ckknight | which is afaik the best I can do |
| 20:35.58 | hypetech | If I select and install omen from the WAU, do I need to also install Threat-1.0 seperatley? |
| 20:36.04 | Jaxon | no |
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| 20:36.17 | hypetech | and I will still see KTM data? |
| 20:36.38 | Jaxon | Why are my groups set to heroic automatically. |
| 20:36.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. threat is just a library, embedded like any other library |
| 20:36.59 | hypetech | k |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38650 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | - Delete some lower city rep item that disappeared |
| 20:37.25 | hypetech | I'm still confused by the embedded/disembedded stuff, I'm just using the WAU so I don't know which mine are :p |
| 20:38.02 | Killmore | I hate see KTM data in my Omen :( Very annoying to see all threat merge when some people are testing omen |
| 20:38.28 | ckknight | Killmore: if one person uses Threat-1.0 and KTM, just the Threat-1.0 data is used. |
| 20:38.30 | kergoth | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/legal-torture/knife-cabinet-imprisons-son-of-the-voodoo-knife-holder-266122.php is sweet |
| 20:38.50 | Killmore | ckknight: I talk about, 4-5 peoples using Omen and 20 using KTM |
| 20:38.58 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38651 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Healbot.tga): |
| 20:38.58 | CIA-22 | SharedMedia: |
| 20:38.58 | CIA-22 | - Add Healbot statusbar texture, courtesy of frugus (@curse) |
| 20:39.07 | ckknight | Killmore: k? |
| 20:39.09 | TecnoBrat | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/hyjal/fortedownsarchimonde.jpg |
| 20:39.13 | xt | Killmore: you can turn that off |
| 20:39.16 | TecnoBrat | what is the button mod there? |
| 20:39.20 | hypetech | nymbia: ooo new textures make me happy :) |
| 20:39.25 | TecnoBrat | I'm thinking its bartender ... but what buttons? |
| 20:39.27 | Killmore | xt: how ? |
| 20:39.36 | hypetech | looks like BT |
| 20:39.46 | NeoTron | so that means all bosses are now officially dead\? |
| 20:39.52 | xt | Killmore: uhm, i'm wrong |
| 20:39.54 | kergoth | probably bartender with cycircled |
| 20:39.58 | xt | :) |
| 20:40.11 | erb | yah illidian died a little bit ago i guess |
| 20:40.12 | NeoTron | or is that a bt-kill of archimonde? |
| 20:40.16 | erb | whatever his name is |
| 20:40.22 | hypetech | is that setup with the 3 chat panes at the bottom some standard mod? I see a TON of people with that setup |
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| 20:40.44 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r38652 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/DemonTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Shut up bitch! |
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| 20:41.01 | kenlyric | that shot is from the PTR, isn't it? |
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| 20:41.25 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, it is |
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| 20:41.31 | Antiarc|Work | See the "click to give feedback" tooltip |
| 20:42.19 | hypetech | would "/cast polymorph focus" work to sheep a focus target? |
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| 20:43.13 | vodrin | /cast [target=focus] polymorph |
| 20:43.13 | vodrin | is the correct way |
| 20:43.13 | hypetech | thank you |
| 20:43.31 | Killmore | ckknight: imagine 5peoples got Omen for testing the rest of the raid 20.. have KTM.. You have a pack of 5 mobs (each differents name) because KTM is sending equale threat for each target (because we know why) thats why its very annoying to be not able to see your threat on the last mob because every members threat are like to 25k when you know only healers and the tank got a few threat on it |
| 20:44.03 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 20:45.04 | hypetech | What does assessment |
| 20:45.06 | hypetech | do? |
| 20:45.16 | kenlyric | assesses |
| 20:45.20 | kergoth | it's a tag based damage meter / threat meter addon |
| 20:45.58 | Jagobah | tag based! |
| 20:46.04 | kergoth | indeed. |
| 20:46.07 | hypetech | ? |
| 20:46.08 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: I'm adding a "suppress KTM data" option to Omen |
| 20:46.15 | Antiarc|Work | So you can opt to only see Omen people in Omen if you want |
| 20:46.30 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: that would be nice :) |
| 20:46.34 | hypetech | kergoth: tag? |
| 20:47.26 | kergoth | hypetech: like aloft and pitbull, you can control the exact content of its text fields. "damageDealt / combatTime" is dps for example |
| 20:47.31 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: w00t ! |
| 20:47.37 | kergoth | hypetech: gives a great deal of flexibility |
| 20:48.40 | hypetech | anybody have a screenshot of buffalo2 with dreamlayout? |
| 20:49.22 | hypetech | any mod to completely disable ALL tooltips in combat btw? |
| 20:49.31 | kergoth | umm yes.. i cant remember the name though :P |
| 20:49.46 | Neebler | tag addons need tag GUI's displaying commands! not linking me to the wiki page :| |
| 20:49.55 | kergoth | true |
| 20:49.59 | Killmore | hypetech: If you found it, tell me :P |
| 20:50.04 | kergoth | assessment is so new though, need time to get usage information in |
| 20:50.07 | Neebler | hate alt tabbing a bunch of times |
| 20:50.08 | Elkano | wouldn't be that hard to code thoug I think... hook GameTooltip's OnShow and hide if in combat |
| 20:50.28 | durcyn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6574-CombatHideTooltip.html |
| 20:51.24 | Chompers | grrr |
| 20:51.30 | Chompers | gruul at 30% DIE |
| 20:51.41 | durcyn | Chompers: dps more. |
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| 20:51.47 | Chompers | they all die early :P |
| 20:51.50 | NeoTron | so dumb question but what is the diference between buffalo and buffalo2? |
| 20:51.55 | vodrin | 2 |
| 20:52.00 | NeoTron | Chompers: then learn to spread out |
| 20:52.06 | NeoTron | vodrin: lol |
| 20:52.13 | Chompers | we do, we fly about, land next to one another and die |
| 20:52.18 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: if you come up with a good answer, let me know, i'm still happily using buffalo |
| 20:52.27 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 20:52.28 | Chompers | in huge clumps for some reason |
| 20:52.28 | durcyn | Chompers: you have ~5 seconds to GTFO after the bounce before shatter hits |
| 20:52.29 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Make people turn on friendly nameplates |
| 20:52.31 | Antiarc|Work | That helps |
| 20:52.52 | durcyn | and in that encounter, 5 seconds is a lifetime |
| 20:52.58 | Chompers | good idea, thanks |
| 20:53.46 | durcyn | (the bigwigs module also has a proximity warner, for the terminally clueless) |
| 20:53.46 | NightHawkTheSane | blarg, i can't find something on oinks, that's shocking, and upsetting. |
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| 20:54.35 | Punkie` | Chompers: Friendly nameplates, turn them on... if you can see a nameplate; you're too close |
| 20:54.48 | Punkie` | Chompers: Rogues can CloS out of the thing |
| 20:54.50 | Chompers | yeah thats a really good idea |
| 20:54.52 | kaiden^ | Hey guys, I have a frame that's invisible that wont let me click through it on my screen i've tried doing a /print GetMouseFocus() to find it but it's not showing it |
| 20:54.55 | erb | any hunters here? |
| 20:54.58 | kaiden^ | Anyone knof of an addon that will show it no matter what |
| 20:55.08 | Punkie` | Chompers: Healers can stand on the rocks and not get thrown around |
| 20:55.08 | Chompers | the bigwigs prox box is okay, but its not very good for saying where they are |
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| 20:55.46 | durcyn | Punkie`: careful about Cloak of Win though, can still kill tanks that way. |
| 20:55.49 | kergoth | erb: iirc hyperChipmunk is a hunter. i have one, but only l54 :) |
| 20:55.57 | Cyrez | ckknight: RollCall-1.0 is still using Ace2 as a dep, and since I switched Ace2 to LoD it can't load. >< |
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| 20:56.11 | Punkie` | durcyn: Tanks should have enough HP, and the rogues should only be using it to find themself a safe spot :P |
| 20:56.39 | durcyn | Punkie`: true, but having seen one particularly dumb rogue use it to hop back on DPS and blow up the MT... |
| 20:56.39 | ckknight | Cyrez: Ace2 shouldn't be LoD. |
| 20:56.59 | kaiden^ | wonderful, so no ideas on an addon that will show the frame? |
| 20:57.09 | Punkie` | durcyn: true, hopefully his rogues are not silly :) |
| 20:57.17 | Cyrez | I mean I made them all standalone. |
| 20:57.27 | kergoth | kaiden^: /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() is what you want.. |
| 20:57.37 | ckknight | Cyrez: so what's the issue? |
| 20:57.47 | ckknight | Cyrez: RollCall-1.0 should load, then |
| 20:58.06 | kaiden^ | kergoth, already said i had used that and it's not giving me anything sadly other than the world frame |
| 20:58.09 | Cyrez | It won't. I think the TOC needs to be updated. |
| 20:58.27 | _icetrain | erb: I play a hunter |
| 20:58.47 | Cyrez | ## Dependencies: Ace2 |
| 20:58.47 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i think he means all the different ace2 librarys are in seperate lod addons |
| 20:59.00 | hypetech | anybody using EavesDrop that has a screenshot? |
| 20:59.00 | Cyrez | It's not set as an optional or embed. |
| 20:59.01 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:59.09 | kaiden^ | is there anyway to iterate through all frames that are Hidden and make them show? |
| 20:59.39 | kergoth | kaiden^: but you can click on it, not through it? |
| 20:59.52 | kaiden^ | kergoth, yes, it's very odd |
| 20:59.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:59.58 | kaiden^ | i can't select mobs when they are under it |
| 21:00.02 | kergoth | weird, if the mouse is enabled the mouse focus thing shouldve worked afaik |
| 21:01.49 | Azurewrath | mhm... my Omen is bugged, it did not register a wipe :) |
| 21:02.13 | erb | icetrain |
| 21:02.14 | erb | what spec? |
| 21:02.15 | Cyrez | I guess I'll just hack the TOC for now. |
| 21:02.22 | erb | i've recently converted from life long MM to BM |
| 21:02.27 | erb | pretty impressed with my raid DPS so far |
| 21:02.29 | _icetrain | erb: 41/20/0 right now |
| 21:02.33 | erb | same |
| 21:02.36 | _icetrain | erb: was MM befre |
| 21:02.52 | erb | BM seems to be it |
| 21:03.18 | Gagorian | Hunters? DPS? What? Oh.. you must be refering to SPD (seconds per damage), which is the unit hunters use to compare themselves to other hunters more conveniently -_- |
| 21:03.18 | erb | do you raid? |
| 21:03.21 | _icetrain | very nice for sustained raid dps, if the pet can survive that is :) |
| 21:03.30 | _icetrain | yeah |
| 21:03.32 | kaiden^ | kergoth, i agree it SHOULD catch it but it's not for some reason hehe |
| 21:03.40 | erb | i'm still in karazhan so i dont have any issues keepign him alive |
| 21:03.41 | snurre | hunters are annoyingly good dmg atm |
| 21:03.46 | erb | he did die once last night on nightbane |
| 21:03.50 | erb | but that was my own fault. |
| 21:03.52 | erb | fuckign charred earth |
| 21:03.54 | _icetrain | 1k+ dps sustained is no problem now |
| 21:04.19 | erb | yeah i have not so good gear but i'm averaging over 640 dps right now for a 1 million damage and up raid |
| 21:04.32 | harldephin | lol |
| 21:04.40 | gaurong | hypetech: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/robswork/WoWScrnShot_051607_191710.jpg |
| 21:04.43 | _icetrain | think i had 920 or something on mag last night with just BoM and 60m buffs |
| 21:05.40 | erb | only thing i use now is major agi pot |
| 21:05.41 | _icetrain | just have to bribe the pallies to throw some buffs on the pet :D |
| 21:05.44 | erb | we're jus a casual raiding guild |
| 21:05.54 | erb | still in karazhan |
| 21:06.51 | kergoth | i havea question.. i'm leveling a hunter primarily as my farming char, since my mutilate rogue cant farm motes worth a damn.. he's a skinner/miner currently.. shoudl i keep skinning, or drop it for enchanting to de shit to farm enchanting mats in instances? |
| 21:07.14 | kergoth | on another note, anyone here used http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1926403,00.asp ? |
| 21:07.38 | erb | icetrain do you go for full haste when you can or do you time things so all your haste effects come at different times? |
| 21:07.39 | kaiden^ | kergoth, if he's a farmer i'd stick to skinning/mining |
| 21:07.43 | Punkie` | kergoth: I have that keyboard :) |
| 21:07.43 | kaiden^ | kergoth, that's the most money |
| 21:07.48 | erb | like do you stack them or wait to pop rapid fire/whatever else |
| 21:07.49 | kergoth | Punkie`: how is it? |
| 21:07.53 | Punkie` | It owns |
| 21:07.59 | Punkie` | Takes a day to get used too |
| 21:08.07 | kergoth | cool. i had a nostromo n52 and right when i got used to it, it borked |
| 21:08.09 | Punkie` | but when you configure your buttons, you have everything where you want |
| 21:08.11 | kergoth | was annoying as hell |
| 21:08.17 | kaiden^ | kergoth, and http://www.ergodex.com/mainpage.htm is much cooler |
| 21:08.32 | kaiden^ | every single key is custom you can add keys to the board or take them away then program what each one does |
| 21:08.37 | Punkie` | kergoth: I have an actual keyboard that has the pad attached to it |
| 21:09.07 | kergoth | Punkie`: ah yeah, saw they had that.. i like that just cause theres no numeric keypad on that keyboard.. i hate those, never need to use them |
| 21:09.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:09.17 | _icetrain | erb: well, you dont want haste if you get your attack speed down below 1.5 + latency really.. since you will be clippin auto shots then |
| 21:09.48 | hyperChipmunk | the mail system is my ho |
| 21:10.03 | _icetrain | so if you blow all at once (the ones you can control) it may not give you that much of a bonus depending on what you shoot during that time |
| 21:10.09 | Punkie` | kergoth: If you get it, you will find that the 'thumb buttons' rock hard :p |
| 21:10.50 | Arrowmaster | i switched from an n52 to an ideazon fang |
| 21:10.57 | kergoth | Punkie`: mind sending me your bindings cache and such? :) would help to have a starting point |
| 21:11.05 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: how you like that? |
| 21:11.08 | Arrowmaster | still keep the n52 around for FPS though |
| 21:11.11 | Arrowmaster | i love it |
| 21:11.32 | Arrowmaster | still need to redo my bindings again though so i actually use all the number keys |
| 21:11.44 | erb | icetrain: that's what I was figuring |
| 21:11.57 | erb | i was getting down to 1.01 |
| 21:12.00 | _icetrain | erb: the only haste that is always good is heroims/bloodlst since it also shortens global cooldown |
| 21:12.02 | erb | and it just wasn't working out the way it should have been |
| 21:12.19 | erb | i did not know that. very nice |
| 21:12.38 | erb | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Nazjatar&n=Erb |
| 21:12.42 | erb | i use abacus, rapid fire |
| 21:12.44 | erb | and specced for quick shots |
| 21:12.48 | Arrowmaster | other haste effects also reduct global cooldown |
| 21:12.59 | Punkie` | kergoth: http://ace.pastey.net/52025 |
| 21:13.12 | _icetrain | Arrowmaster: not rapid fire/quick shots etc |
| 21:13.14 | Kalman| | Arrowmaster: No, hastes don't reduce GCD except for heroism/bloodlust. |
| 21:13.21 | kergoth | thanks. my wolfking warrior should arrive tomorrow :) |
| 21:13.28 | Kalman| | Proc hastes like Quag's Eye don't reduce it either. |
| 21:13.57 | Antiarc|Work | Haste effect should totally affect GCD |
| 21:14.02 | Arrowmaster | well i was lauching 1.12 second shadowbolts in heroic blood furnace before the spell haste nerf |
| 21:14.14 | Antiarc|Work | SnD + Blade Flurry + double Mongoose = what GCD? |
| 21:14.17 | _icetrain | Antiarc|Work: would be lovely =) |
| 21:14.23 | Arrowmaster | bloodlust, rage of magtheridon, eye of quag |
| 21:14.28 | Punkie` | kergoth: actually; http://ace.pastey.net/52027 -- I had character specific ones :) |
| 21:14.29 | Kalman| | Arrowmaster: Bloodlust reduces GCD. |
| 21:14.37 | Arrowmaster | the gcd was so fucking fast |
| 21:14.52 | Kalman| | Should reduce it to ~1.15 seconds. |
| 21:15.10 | Arrowmaster | my shadowbolts were taking 1.12 to cast |
| 21:15.18 | erb | rogues have a 1 second GCD by default right? |
| 21:15.18 | Arrowmaster | gcd was over half way through cast |
| 21:15.23 | Arrowmaster | erb yes |
| 21:15.28 | Arrowmaster | warriors too i think |
| 21:15.29 | _icetrain | spoiled fucks :D |
| 21:15.44 | Kalman| | Arrowmaster: I promise, I cannot scorch faster than 1.5 seconds with both the Quag's Eye and Wizardry procs up. |
| 21:16.05 | Arrowmaster | maybe rage of magtheridon also reduces gcd then |
| 21:16.21 | Kalman| | It's possible. |
| 21:16.24 | kebinusan | spell haste effects do reduce the gcd I thought |
| 21:16.27 | _icetrain | so much stupid things with hunter shots.. like all specials add 0.5s to the next auto |
| 21:16.35 | Gagorian | GCD isn't reduced on instant spells |
| 21:16.38 | erb | ice |
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| 21:16.43 | Gagorian | but on casts that go below 1.5s |
| 21:16.43 | erb | i am a rocket scientist now |
| 21:16.45 | Gagorian | GCD is reduced |
| 21:16.50 | erb | anyone time someone says hunters are easy mode |
| 21:16.54 | erb | i want to rip their face off |
| 21:16.57 | _icetrain | hehe |
| 21:16.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38653 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - localize the "You must be a raid officer" message. |
| 21:17.08 | Kalman| | Ahhh, that's the difference. |
| 21:17.13 | erb | i bet tehy don't have to sit down with a pen and paper |
| 21:17.15 | erb | and calculator |
| 21:17.18 | Kalman| | Spell haste *rating* doesn't decrease GCD. |
| 21:17.23 | Kalman| | % haste effects do. |
| 21:17.32 | vodrin | kalman speaks the truth |
| 21:17.33 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r38654 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: added a general option, which when changing an option in will change every catigory, hence all moves are now per catigory, also hence db reset, sorry |
| 21:17.39 | _icetrain | erb: yeah, much more than people think =) |
| 21:17.41 | erb | i'm happy post 2.1 though |
| 21:17.54 | erb | even though my figures are going to fall off and i'll get carpal tunnel |
| 21:17.59 | erb | fucking LB, KC |
| 21:18.04 | erb | lol |
| 21:18.05 | _icetrain | macro ftw =) |
| 21:18.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: to be sure, warriors have a 1.5s GCD, not 1s |
| 21:18.10 | erb | i've been thinkin about that |
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| 21:18.15 | erb | i use a macro for LB |
| 21:18.20 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: ah |
| 21:18.21 | erb | just because autocast fucks it up real bad |
| 21:18.25 | _icetrain | shooting a raid boss for 10m straight is not gonna happen unless i want my hand to fall off |
| 21:18.31 | erb | would you recommend a ravanger or cat over a WS for raid DPS? |
| 21:18.34 | Arrowmaster | although actually i think GCD is linked to the skills not class |
| 21:18.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: probably, yes. |
| 21:18.46 | Arrowmaster | i think bloodfury has a 1.5 GCD for orc rogues |
| 21:19.00 | _icetrain | erb: think they are quite equal.. i got a cat because i cba to level a ravager from 63 =) |
| 21:19.09 | Arrowmaster | atleast thott used to say the rogue version did |
| 21:19.18 | erb | i picked up a ravanger @ 63 over at ToT and he's 70 now |
| 21:19.27 | erb | along with my WS but he was picked up at 69 |
| 21:19.30 | erb | rofl my other pet is a boar |
| 21:19.31 | erb | level 62.... |
| 21:19.33 | erb | :( |
| 21:19.41 | _icetrain | boars are nive solo pets |
| 21:19.49 | kergoth | charge ftw |
| 21:19.52 | erb | i love charge |
| 21:20.07 | erb | owls are pretty damn great tanks too |
| 21:20.08 | _icetrain | yeah the charge / growl synergy is just gold =) |
| 21:20.11 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r38655 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: uncomented a line |
| 21:20.21 | Antiarc|Work | Hm |
| 21:20.28 | Ominous | hmm is that before or after the zip script, that is the question |
| 21:21.19 | _icetrain | erb: yeha i use an owl for solo, keeps adds controlled quite nice |
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| 21:23.01 | Jaxon | Warp Stalkers (non caster version) are excellent solo as well. Quick to start aggro build so you can ramp up DPS quick |
| 21:23.14 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, speaking of hunters |
| 21:23.20 | Antiarc|Work | I need comprehensive data on Intimidation threat values |
| 21:23.29 | Antiarc|Work | I think it scales because I've had people report very different findings |
| 21:23.53 | hypetech | So is violation meant to be a replacement for SW_Stats? |
| 21:24.04 | FrostByghte | anyone know of some custom macro icons that can be added to wow? |
| 21:24.15 | erb | antiarc |
| 21:24.22 | erb | i can test it if you wish |
| 21:24.32 | erb | intimidation's saved many healers lives in karazhan |
| 21:24.38 | erb | if uckign can't get use to it for pvp |
| 21:24.43 | erb | i feel like a noob in pvp now |
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| 21:24.53 | erb | friggen BM spec is so weird to me |
| 21:25.04 | pastamancer | big red pet = eat faces |
| 21:25.06 | Ominous | hypetech: ammo and vhaarr have always said no |
| 21:25.19 | erb | as marks i get scatter and intimidation |
| 21:25.26 | erb | er |
| 21:25.34 | erb | scatter and silencing |
| 21:25.42 | erb | oh well it's an adjustment. but i can test it for you if yuou wish |
| 21:26.28 | _icetrain | might scale like growl does with +dmg i believe it is |
| 21:26.54 | Antiarc|Work | erb: Yeah, please do, with different pet AP levels if possible |
| 21:27.01 | Antiarc|Work | _icetrain: That's my suspicion |
| 21:27.53 | pastamancer | Tem: sleeping at work? |
| 21:27.53 | Tem | just forgot to change nicks this morning |
| 21:27.53 | pastamancer | lol |
| 21:28.39 | Jaxon | erb: I jsut respecced BM after being MM from 61-70+raiding as well. |
| 21:28.48 | erb | you enjoying it so far jax? |
| 21:28.51 | erb | antiar: |
| 21:28.54 | erb | what do i need to do? |
| 21:28.57 | erb | run /combatlog for you? |
| 21:29.00 | Jaxon | Certainly is different, my pet can't hold aggro worth a damn when I'm farming |
| 21:29.16 | erb | your BM pet can't keep argo? |
| 21:29.25 | Antiarc|Work | erb: No, you'd need to have your pet Intimidate and do no other damage or threat, then see how much damage it takes for you to pull aggro, then divide by 1.3 |
| 21:29.38 | erb | oh ok anti |
| 21:29.59 | erb | i can put him on passive and just target someone w/ intimdation a bunch of times |
| 21:30.03 | erb | i could two box my warlock |
| 21:30.11 | Jaxon | You'll also have to consider the pet's damage, because Intimidation is On Next Attack |
| 21:30.16 | erb | or have a bored guildie help |
| 21:30.32 | erb | that's easy enough though to just negative out |
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| 21:35.46 | BankZ | With Violation, is there a way to set the backgroud alpha? |
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| 21:36.10 | erb | jaxon: has your raiding DPS improved so far? |
| 21:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | anyone brave enough to test this new 'take all' function for me? >8) |
| 21:36.31 | Jaxon | erb: haven't had a chance to raid with it yet. |
| 21:36.33 | Mikk | Ok.. who has access to the webswerver? More specifically the icons used in the forums? |
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| 21:36.35 | Antiarc|Work | erb: I use a level 20 mage to melee mobs to figure out how much damage it takes to pull aggro |
| 21:36.40 | Antiarc|Work | She hits for 2. :D |
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| 21:36.51 | erb | jaxon: I think you will be pleasantly surprised |
| 21:36.56 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/smileys/ <- use in forums pl0x. the current smileys make me ill :< |
| 21:36.59 | erb | lol 2! |
| 21:37.23 | Jaxon | erb: now I NEED a mana battery and my RAP took a big hit, so I hit like a kitten. |
| 21:37.26 | kergoth | http://viming.blogspot.com/2007/02/indent-level-highlighting.html looks nifty |
| 21:37.59 | erb | lol fel mana potions will become your best friend |
| 21:38.07 | erb | my rap went from 2160 to uh |
| 21:38.08 | erb | 1750 |
| 21:38.10 | hyperChipmunk | fel mana pots are the friggin win-all |
| 21:38.11 | erb | something like that lol |
| 21:38.19 | Mikk | fel mana potions are absolutely hax for hunters |
| 21:38.21 | Ominous | how are fel mana pots good |
| 21:38.27 | erb | 3600 mana over 24 seconds |
| 21:38.27 | Mikk | they give more mana |
| 21:38.28 | hyperChipmunk | for hunters |
| 21:38.30 | erb | w/o a down side |
| 21:38.31 | erb | for us :) |
| 21:38.34 | Ominous | but less spell damage |
| 21:38.37 | Mikk | they also give -spelldmg though |
| 21:38.40 | erb | yah we have none of that |
| 21:38.40 | erb | lol |
| 21:38.42 | Mikk | which hunters care not one iota about |
| 21:38.45 | hyperChipmunk | that has no effect on hunters |
| 21:38.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you're arcane shot might hit for like 1-2 less damage :P |
| 21:38.58 | Antiarc|Work | oh noez my arcane shotz |
| 21:38.59 | erb | enough peopel will cry |
| 21:39.02 | erb | soon they'll nerf it |
| 21:39.08 | erb | "also decreases attack power by 20" |
| 21:39.14 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: nifty, thanks |
| 21:39.16 | Mikk | hehe |
| 21:39.23 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: what vim enhancements do you use? |
| 21:39.27 | Mikk | WTB WEB SWERVER ADMIN |
| 21:39.30 | Jaxon | erb: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Deathwing&n=Jaxon Lost about 400 RAP |
| 21:39.42 | Josh_Borke | i admin web servers |
| 21:39.44 | deltron | zomg it's hot outside :( |
| 21:39.55 | Mikk | hack wowace.com plx josh |
| 21:39.59 | deltron | i admin my colocated box :P |
| 21:40.04 | Antiarc|Work | deltron: Heh, how hot is it? |
| 21:40.05 | Xuerian | Josh_Borke: But do you admin web swervers? :D |
| 21:40.08 | Josh_Borke | ugh, that's so much work |
| 21:40.12 | chutwig | hax |
| 21:40.21 | Mikk | i know, why do you think i'm not doing it? =P |
| 21:40.29 | chutwig | max hax? |
| 21:40.40 | erb | jax |
| 21:40.41 | erb | lol |
| 21:40.46 | erb | look how much more armor you have than me |
| 21:40.54 | chutwig | maximum haximum |
| 21:40.55 | Mikk | been ages since i did pen testing. if i can get into wowace.com with my old kit someone needs to be shot |
| 21:41.01 | erb | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Nazjatar&n=Erb |
| 21:41.04 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: heh only 80F with 40% humidity right now :P |
| 21:41.05 | Mikk | if i can even find my old kit |
| 21:41.19 | deltron | Mikk: eh why you need that done? |
| 21:41.24 | erb | i need more friggen crit |
| 21:41.34 | chutwig | sneak around and find an unsanitized variable somewhere that you can do an injection attack on |
| 21:41.45 | chutwig | or you could just use your legions of botted computers |
| 21:41.49 | erb | i have a +28 CR scope and wolfslayer sniper rifle too |
| 21:41.53 | erb | that'll give me some more crit |
| 21:41.57 | BankZ | Does Grid do click casting, or do I need a different addon for that? |
| 21:42.06 | erb | i just dont know if i want to use the scope on teh gun or wait for the prince bow |
| 21:42.09 | erb | it doesnt drop :( |
| 21:42.20 | pastamancer | BankZ: get clique from wowi |
| 21:42.38 | Mikk | deltron: cause the wowace.com forum smileys need replacing with http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/smileys/ |
| 21:42.51 | hypetech | in Buffalo2, is there a way to make it not show the abbreviation for the buff above the icon? |
| 21:43.05 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: you're opening up a can of worms asking me about vim :) http://covenant.kergoth.com/svn/homefiles/ has my .vimrc (989 lines) and .vim/ dir (38 plugins, a few i wrote) |
| 21:43.06 | Mikk | or some other free smiley kit, but rather than digging one up i just drew one =P |
| 21:43.07 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: :P |
| 21:43.13 | Jaxon | You want it on the bow, the gun is ugly. |
| 21:43.21 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: i <3 vim |
| 21:43.36 | erb | wolfslayer is nice looking imo :) |
| 21:43.43 | deltron | Mikk: lol, make it into a SMF package that the admin can load |
| 21:43.44 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: oh man, there looks like some sexiness there |
| 21:43.51 | erb | anyone have a tcl item lookup for IRC that uses wowhead |
| 21:43.51 | Josh_Borke | time to bookmark |
| 21:43.53 | kergoth | http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/vim-003.png shows my vim setup when i was playing with completion |
| 21:43.59 | erb | i have an allakhazam one but |
| 21:44.01 | Mikk | deltron: SMwhat? |
| 21:44.01 | erb | that site is dead |
| 21:44.14 | Josh_Borke | omfg, that's awesome |
| 21:44.16 | kergoth | http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/vim-shadedindent.jpg is me playing with that indenthl script |
| 21:44.18 | Josh_Borke | except i hate the window at the bottom :-P |
| 21:44.45 | deltron | Mikk: simplemachines.org - the forums that wowace uses |
| 21:44.47 | BankZ | Im gonna try and use grid tonight, seems like it will be nice after I get used to it |
| 21:45.05 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: does the window on the right populate for lua? ^_^ |
| 21:45.07 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: the completion info? its okay, i like that i can see the function's prototype when it completes it |
| 21:45.09 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:45.18 | kergoth | ctags supports lua |
| 21:46.00 | Josh_Borke | sorry about that |
| 21:46.01 | erb | lol |
| 21:46.04 | Borked|Raider | anyone seen the lates news on http://www.mmo-champion.com/ - how can the items be linkable if no one have had em? |
| 21:46.06 | erb | u got it in deltron's eye |
| 21:46.19 | erb | borked |
| 21:46.32 | erb | doesnt the server have all? |
| 21:46.33 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: compiler/lua.vim makes :make do a luac -p on the file to make sure it compiles, good for checking syntax |
| 21:46.39 | Borked|Raider | erb no |
| 21:46.45 | erb | oh |
| 21:46.46 | erb | client? |
| 21:46.52 | Boubouille | Borked|Raider : Use the force. |
| 21:46.58 | Borked|Raider | erb Items are first added to the server cache when it drop |
| 21:47.03 | erb | oh ok |
| 21:47.09 | Borked|Raider | erb and added to client cache when you see em |
| 21:47.21 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: my vimrc has some binds for executing interpreted code. i just hit F9 and it runs the script with the interpreter (if it has a #! line at the beginning it uses that, otherwise it goes based on filetype) |
| 21:47.40 | Mikk | deltron: phat chance i'm digging up all the files that i need to dump into the package when all i want to replace is the smileys |
| 21:47.42 | Josh_Borke | wow, that's nice |
| 21:47.43 | Borked|Raider | the server cache get reset each time the server are offline, thats why you might discornect when trying to link an item from your local cache if the server have been reset |
| 21:47.57 | kergoth | i've got some pretty crazy vim stuff. |
| 21:48.02 | Borked|Raider | after a reset, the items are added to the server cache when a person with the item logon ect |
| 21:48.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 21:48.08 | ruinna | anyone know how i might use textures like Interface\\Cooldown\\star4 which seem to have just one channel (alpha) as a proper texture alpha map? i'm getting back and white instead of alpha when i try to use it |
| 21:48.12 | kergoth | one of the plugins i wrote adjusts the # of lines the mouse scrollwheel scrolls based on window height |
| 21:48.28 | kergoth | another automatically enables line number column based on how wide the window is, with binds to override |
| 21:48.33 | ruinna | I fooled around with SetBlendMode, but couldn't quite get it |
| 21:48.49 | kergoth | another adjusts the fold level based on the shiftwidth and window width, so a smaller window with bigger indents will fold more |
| 21:49.24 | deltron | Mikk: http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?action=search |
| 21:49.48 | Chompers | gruul to 29% dont think we have the gear for him |
| 21:49.51 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: so why haven't you fixed GuildBook/LootTracker for me? |
| 21:49.57 | Chompers | was fun though |
| 21:50.06 | kergoth | to quote peter in office space, "it's a problem of motivation" |
| 21:50.08 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:50.26 | Josh_Borke | :-P |
| 21:50.45 | Stephmw | kergoth: I'm surprised you haven't hacked the municipal grid, your plumbing and the local cable tv |
| 21:50.49 | deltron | gruul is pretty easy once you get it down |
| 21:51.08 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Are you potting up? |
| 21:51.20 | Mikk | 3 reasons why gruul isn't dying: 1. People dont' spread out quickly enough / use terrain features to not get knocked about |
| 21:51.26 | Mikk | 2. Offtank doesn't generate enough threat |
| 21:51.30 | Mikk | ^ Use a druid to fix that |
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| 21:51.44 | Mikk | 3. Your low-end dpsers need to l2p |
| 21:52.42 | chutwig | if you can switch people out, look at the meters after each attempt and replace the people who do the worst |
| 21:52.44 | Chompers | we're dpsing fine, but after 14 growths our tank cant stay up |
| 21:52.49 | hypetech | lol |
| 21:52.57 | chutwig | if you're at 14 growths then your dps needs a bit of a boost |
| 21:52.58 | Jaxon | If Gruul is at 14 growths, something is wrong with your DPS |
| 21:52.58 | hypetech | if you're at 14 growths, you aren't dps'ing fine |
| 21:53.00 | Chompers | he's being 1-shotted |
| 21:53.02 | Daemona | 14 growth? |
| 21:53.04 | Daemona | wtf |
| 21:53.04 | hypetech | rofl |
| 21:53.07 | deltron | we have 2 people on OT and spot heals, the rest on the tank |
| 21:53.14 | chutwig | flasks are so cheap now that you may as well use them |
| 21:53.19 | Daemona | more then 7 healers? |
| 21:53.24 | Adirelle | eek, threat isn't accounted for my pet :/ |
| 21:53.27 | Chompers | everyone was flasked up, 6 healers |
| 21:53.39 | Daemona | something is REALLY wring with your dps |
| 21:53.49 | chutwig | as long as people aren't dying to shatter gruul should go down in no more than 12 growths |
| 21:53.57 | Daemona | ppl ying to caveins or shatter? (is dying to shatter even possible after nerf) |
| 21:54.09 | chutwig | it is if you actively try to run into a group of about 8 people |
| 21:54.23 | Daemona | gg chutwig |
| 21:54.28 | deltron | yeah we died to shatter a few times last night :P |
| 21:54.43 | chutwig | it's sort of like trying to blow people up on geddon |
| 21:54.58 | Adirelle | btw Omen is really neat |
| 21:55.19 | Mikk | Nothing wrong with your tank dying at 14 growths, really |
| 21:55.23 | Mikk | He's just not supposed to go that far |
| 21:55.29 | Chompers | oh |
| 21:55.54 | Mikk | Gruul is the wakeup all for DPSers |
| 21:55.59 | Daemona | hrrmm i wonder why ppl keep telling me i run too many addons :( http://www.directupload.net/file/d/1084/v5PahSBj_jpg.htm |
| 21:56.00 | Mikk | They can't fuck around with whatever spec they like anymore |
| 21:56.07 | Mikk | They need to use the one that actually hurts a hell of a lot |
| 21:56.07 | chutwig | gruul is not hard but he definitely separates the wheat from the chaff |
| 21:56.10 | chutwig | eh |
| 21:56.22 | chutwig | once your gear starts to move beyond gruul you can tool around with different specs again |
| 21:56.27 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r38656 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 21:56.27 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 21:56.27 | CIA-22 | - BS deDE Swift Flight Form = Schnelle Fluggestalt |
| 21:56.30 | deltron | Daemona: not as bad as mine :P |
| 21:56.35 | chutwig | but everyone needs to be pve spec initially for it to work, and they really need to do their part |
| 21:56.46 | Mikk | indeed |
| 21:56.54 | Mikk | no more shadowstep rogues, arms warrs with big mofo 2h weapons .. |
| 21:57.04 | Chompers | thats me out then :P |
| 21:57.13 | chutwig | eh, we use one 31/30/0 warrior for dps and he does well |
| 21:57.22 | chutwig | usually slots in between me and the hunters |
| 21:57.23 | RobertEvans | Daemona what damage meter is that? |
| 21:57.29 | Daemona | violation ? |
| 21:57.30 | chutwig | i come in right below the rogues |
| 21:57.38 | Mikk | chutwig: 31/30/0 is a LOT different from 45 in arms |
| 21:57.52 | RobertEvans | ty |
| 21:57.53 | chutwig | Mikk: i consider anything that has MS arms |
| 21:57.59 | chutwig | and he uses a 2h |
| 21:58.12 | chutwig | doesn't dw |
| 21:58.12 | Chompers | i'm 33/25/3 |
| 21:58.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38657 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files): |
| 21:58.24 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0 - added ThreatLib.running, which is set to false if you are Resting, solo (without party or pet), or in a battleground. When it's set to false, parser events are opted-out early. |
| 21:58.24 | CIA-22 | - added :RequestEnabledOnInactive(), which is meant to be called by a GUI to allow for testing in solo situations. |
| 21:58.26 | Chompers | with a nice big 2hander, i do okay on damage |
| 21:58.27 | deltron | http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1684/wowscrnshot060207212213kx2.jpg <-- me in raids |
| 21:58.44 | deltron | Chompers: tell me you at least have a shammy dropping WF for you |
| 21:58.45 | Bver_ | im gonna wait a bit till our guild switches over to violation |
| 21:59.03 | Chompers | nope, i'm told its a waste of a totem :< |
| 21:59.08 | deltron | WHAT |
| 21:59.12 | Adirelle | ckknight: while you're here, any idea why my pet threat is ignored when I'm solo ? |
| 21:59.14 | Antiarc|Work | WF is an amazing DPS upgrade |
| 21:59.20 | Chompers | they want more spell damage totems |
| 21:59.23 | deltron | Chompers: your GM is a retard |
| 21:59.23 | Mikk | WF > all in a melee group |
| 21:59.27 | chutwig | wrath of air is like jesus |
| 21:59.29 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: I've been chasing an issue where the pet doesn't get registered |
| 21:59.35 | deltron | Chompers: that is your issue |
| 21:59.39 | Chompers | aye, its a huge boost to me |
| 21:59.39 | Antiarc|Work | Did you log in with the pet summoned or dismissed? |
| 21:59.45 | deltron | Chompers: your raid leaders need to learn2raidgroup |
| 21:59.48 | Adirelle | dismissed |
| 21:59.58 | Chompers | :p |
| 22:00.01 | Antiarc|Work | I might not have gotten the bug knocked out then |
| 22:00.05 | Antiarc|Work | Try summoning and do a UI Reload |
| 22:00.11 | Chompers | we're got a lot of casters so im not first prio |
| 22:00.34 | Adirelle | I'll do a update in the way |
| 22:00.35 | Chompers | if there were more arms warriors i'd probably get it |
| 22:00.53 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r38658 10ForkliftGnome/ (Conditions.lua ForkliftGnome-enUS.lua ForkliftGnome.lua): |
| 22:00.53 | CIA-22 | ForkliftGnome: |
| 22:00.53 | CIA-22 | - added X-LoadOn-Guild: true which will load if you're in a guild (at login) |
| 22:00.53 | CIA-22 | - added X-LoadOn-Bank: true that will load when bank opens |
| 22:00.54 | Mikk | rogues? |
| 22:00.56 | deltron | Chompers: you should be put in a melee group |
| 22:00.58 | Jaxon | Antiarc|Work: maybe just check at combat to see if pet exists. |
| 22:00.59 | Mikk | rogues do omgwtf amounts of extra damage with wf |
| 22:01.05 | Tuyk | WF > all for fury too |
| 22:01.09 | Chompers | we're got one or two |
| 22:01.24 | Adirelle | (though It was fairly up to date) |
| 22:01.26 | Chompers | yeah, i feel like im being annoying asking for it every raid |
| 22:01.28 | Antiarc|Work | You need to be stacking a melee DPS group with your best rogues and warriors + enh shaman |
| 22:01.35 | Antiarc|Work | It's such a huge upgrade it's not even funny. |
| 22:02.02 | deltron | even a non-enh shaman dropping WF is a big boost |
| 22:02.03 | Tuyk | i suggest go browse elitist-jerks.com for a couple of maths to back up your claims |
| 22:02.48 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: seems related to pet being dismissed |
| 22:02.50 | [dRaCo] | yeah, but 10% ap are a nice boost, too ;) |
| 22:02.54 | Adirelle | i'll dismiss and try again |
| 22:03.05 | Adirelle | (right after I mined that adamantite spot) |
| 22:03.13 | kaiden^ | would it not be wise to use violation,assessment and omen at the same time? :) |
| 22:03.23 | Antiarc|Work | kaiden^: It should be fine |
| 22:03.34 | undu | hmmmm.... |
| 22:03.46 | undu | Does Violation correctly merge water elementals as pets |
| 22:03.54 | Adirelle | no |
| 22:03.58 | undu | why noooooot :< |
| 22:04.14 | Adirelle | 2 mages => 2 water elementals => ONE name |
| 22:04.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38659 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - replace :RequestEnabledOnInactive with :RequestEnabledOnSolo |
| 22:04.48 | deltron | reminds me of when one of our hunters named a pet after me |
| 22:05.06 | Adirelle | that will also causes trouble |
| 22:05.25 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: http://covenant.kergoth.com/svn/homefiles/.vim/plugin/tip1369.vim is a nice one. not generating pointless diffs where the only change the eol or lack thereof ftw |
| 22:05.26 | undu | A guildie of mine says SWStats merges water elementals correctly |
| 22:05.28 | undu | dunno |
| 22:05.34 | kergoth | s/change/change is/ |
| 22:05.40 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: that's it, pet is ignored when I load UI and it is dismissed (r38657) |
| 22:05.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38660 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - change :RequestEnabledOnSolo() to :RequestEnabledOnSolo([value]) |
| 22:05.43 | kergoth | deltron: hah |
| 22:05.50 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Ok. I'll do more work on that then. |
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| 22:07.51 | pastamancer | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_PET_HITS ? |
| 22:08.37 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I still have that pesking remaning threat too |
| 22:09.08 | mjc_ | moo |
| 22:09.44 | todd` | anyone use buffalo2_dreamlayout? |
| 22:10.58 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: see Zephyr who already has threatened this ogre : http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=9ui3b0r8.jpg |
| 22:10.58 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Thanks. I'll add that one to the list :) |
| 22:11.36 | Adirelle | the more strange is that it resets properly the data at the start of the next fight |
| 22:12.26 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38661 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: Threat-1.0: Make sure we re-update solo status (and activation) when we get or lose a pet. |
| 22:12.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38662 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua Threat-1.0.lua): Threat-1.0 - allow for getting values from the previous revision |
| 22:12.41 | Adirelle | forgot this: if I attack two mob with the same name in a row, it keeps threat value from previous fight |
| 22:13.12 | ckknight | did you leave combat in the middle? |
| 22:13.13 | kergoth | Adirelle: did you leave combat between them? |
| 22:13.16 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 22:13.18 | Adirelle | yep |
| 22:15.01 | Adirelle | I can target other mob and target back the mob, threat is still here |
| 22:15.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38663 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - be sure to check whether it should be running at the start. |
| 22:15.19 | Adirelle | I think it simply doesn't get reset when pet gets out of combat |
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| 22:18.53 | kergoth | how does the pet module pick up the pet leaving combat currently? |
| 22:19.12 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: With a timer |
| 22:19.16 | Antiarc|Work | Which may not be working |
| 22:19.23 | Antiarc|Work | It checks UnitAffectingCombat("pet") |
| 22:20.02 | kergoth | i don't see UnitAffectingCombat called in pet.lua anymore at all. |
| 22:20.04 | kergoth | it used to... |
| 22:20.12 | kergoth | unless its int he core? |
| 22:20.29 | Antiarc|Work | It's in the ClassCore |
| 22:20.33 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:21.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38664 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - keep activated when in AV, because that's a PvE instance that just pretends to be PvP. |
| 22:21.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:21.22 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: currently checks with a localized string |
| 22:21.42 | Antiarc|Work | Could we check the minimap texture or something? |
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| 22:22.43 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, you localized them all. |
| 22:22.44 | Antiarc|Work | Nevermind! |
| 22:23.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad|afk] by ChanServ |
| 22:23.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38665 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Grammar fix |
| 22:24.52 | deltron | lol @ AV comment |
| 22:26.16 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: we could check the world map texture, but what if some bright spark zooms out? |
| 22:26.34 | Antiarc|Work | That's why I was thinking the minimap texture. |
| 22:26.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38666 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - :RequestEnabledOnSolo => RequestActiveOnSolo |
| 22:27.03 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: any debug available in threat ? |
| 22:27.31 | sbu | [Ammo]: uhm - is it possible to disable sws import? |
| 22:27.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38667 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - add :IsActive() |
| 22:28.14 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Such as? |
| 22:28.23 | Adirelle | self:debug :p |
| 22:28.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38668 10PitBull/Threat/Threat.lua: PitBull_Threat - destroy all bars when Threat-1.0 is deactivated, create them when Threat-1.0 is activated. |
| 22:28.37 | Antiarc|Work | Well, what kind of debug info are you looking for? |
| 22:29.18 | Adirelle | like in self:debug("checking if that pet is still in comba") |
| 22:29.18 | Adirelle | simply to know what you used to output debug statement to the window |
| 22:29.19 | ckknight | Adirelle: AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("Checking if that pet is still in combat") |
| 22:29.19 | sdouble | ckknight, did you add threat bars to pitbull? |
| 22:29.19 | Antiarc|Work | There's, :DumpThreatTable, :DumpTranslationTable, :DumpQueriedRevisions, and :DumpTranslationHashes |
| 22:29.19 | ckknight | sdouble: hehe, yea. |
| 22:29.19 | sdouble | nice. |
| 22:29.19 | NeoTron | so how did they change chaos blast on leotheras? |
| 22:29.19 | deltron | lol |
| 22:29.36 | NeoTron | to make it more melee friendly? less radius? |
| 22:29.36 | Antiarc|Work | That's all the debug I have in there though. The rest of it I do like ckknight just demonstrated. |
| 22:29.36 | deltron | I need to find a way to make pitbull bars more useable in raids heh |
| 22:29.45 | ulic | how is threat displayed in Pitbull? |
| 22:30.09 | ckknight | ulic: unit threat / MT threat in percentage form |
| 22:30.18 | ckknight | like the health bar |
| 22:30.24 | ulic | ah, cool |
| 22:30.33 | ckknight | only instead of current health, max health, it's threat, MT threat |
| 22:30.37 | deltron | i must try this out |
| 22:30.45 | ckknight | MT doesn't actually mean the MT, it means whoever has max threat, e.g. a stab-happy rogue |
| 22:31.04 | deltron | ckknight: MT's in pitbull need to display their targets by default IMHO |
| 22:31.13 | ckknight | deltron: probably right. |
| 22:31.23 | deltron | something I noticed last night |
| 22:31.31 | deltron | so I kept up oRA's MT's |
| 22:31.51 | sdouble | does the threat show regardless? Or do you have to enable it/close omen or anything special? |
| 22:32.16 | ckknight | sdouble: nothing to do with Omen except that they both use the same library. |
| 22:32.39 | sdouble | Right, but if someone was running omen already, it wouldn't cause any problems? |
| 22:32.42 | Adirelle | damn, growl is fucked up |
| 22:32.45 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: you may want to give an option in Omen to hide it when deactivated |
| 22:32.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38669 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - show maintank's target and targettarget by default. Same for mainassist. |
| 22:33.00 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I'll be doing so |
| 22:33.05 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Elaborate? |
| 22:33.05 | ckknight | sdouble: none whatsoever, in fact, it's getting the same data, so it's a shared weight |
| 22:33.17 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't verified the scaling, but it seems okay-ish on my level 22 hunter |
| 22:33.29 | Adirelle | on the mob I'm farming, charge+growl generates about 4600 threat |
| 22:33.49 | Adirelle | I used to with threat |
| 22:34.05 | Adirelle | but something has been changed, it doesn't anymore |
| 22:34.15 | Adirelle | (I mean Threat doesn't record it) |
| 22:34.22 | shieldb | NeoTron, not sure if someone answered your question but leotheras' chaos blast is a much smaller radius now (5yd?) |
| 22:34.28 | Adirelle | looks like Growl is simply ignored |
| 22:35.01 | Antiarc|Work | It should be seeing it |
| 22:35.07 | hypetech | hmm |
| 22:35.22 | hypetech | buffalo2 doesn't show a number on the icon when debuffs stack |
| 22:35.26 | LePeR|Jaunia | Antiarc|Work: so im curious.. do i actually need omen to broadcast threat? |
| 22:35.34 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 22:35.45 | Josh_Borke | you need Threat and all its required files only |
| 22:35.51 | LePeR|Jaunia | nice |
| 22:35.52 | shieldb | while a warlock is still best (imo) for tanking him in demon phase / sub 15%, you could have a normal tank in resist gear tank him from melee and all your melee dps can wail on him from the other side |
| 22:37.04 | cotangent | tank in tank gear doesn't last very long |
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| 22:38.00 | shieldb | cotan is that you? |
| 22:38.04 | cotangent | indeed |
| 22:38.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38670 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - add comment |
| 22:38.14 | Arrowmaster | so is threat-1.0 going to have its own bossmodule syncing for when to adjust threat on encounters? |
| 22:38.15 | shieldb | I've been found out! gah! |
| 22:38.28 | cotangent | laf I found you out after wowhead I think |
| 22:38.43 | shieldb | yeah true enough |
| 22:39.17 | cotangent | yeah some other cotan is already registered :( |
| 22:39.56 | Kalman| | cotangent: I feel your pain. |
| 22:40.05 | Kalman| | Stupid |. |
| 22:40.36 | shieldb | cotangent, though that was pretty funny when you were reading off my wowhead comments on what to do in karazhan on whatever encounter that was ;) |
| 22:40.58 | cotangent | bbw |
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| 22:41.48 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38671 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: - Boss : koKR update |
| 22:41.51 | cotangent | yeah I was looking up the merlock packs a while back for a list of abilities and saw that the only entries were from you |
| 22:42.28 | shieldb | heh |
| 22:42.40 | hypetech | Anybody know how to get the number to show up for stacking debuffs in Buffalo2? |
| 22:43.03 | ckknight | alright, I gotta go |
| 22:44.06 | Xuerian | Have fun, ckknight. |
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| 22:44.40 | ckknight | I expect progress to be made during my absence. |
| 22:47.33 | Saroz | sure sure |
| 22:47.33 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I thing I got it |
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| 22:47.53 | Antiarc|Work | Oh? |
| 22:48.04 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: the scheduled check records pet out of combat far to early |
| 22:48.09 | Adirelle | s/to/too/ |
| 22:48.20 | Antiarc|Work | Oh. Hm. |
| 22:48.24 | Antiarc|Work | Any idea why? |
| 22:48.25 | Josh_Borke | bye for now |
| 22:48.36 | sdouble | ah, out of combat with my warlock, targetting a corpse shows pet threat |
| 22:48.48 | Adirelle | if I tell my pet to attack, PET_ATTACK_START fires immediatly, but the pet travel time is higher than 0.5s |
| 22:48.59 | Adirelle | by the time the 0.5 are elapsed, the pet is still out of combat |
| 22:49.06 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38672 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen : Updated localization koKR |
| 22:49.19 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38673 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added Threat on/off switch to drive Omen display; changed TPS calculations to IIR filter with Kalman's help, added custom player bar coloring |
| 22:49.26 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, that makes sense. |
| 22:49.28 | Adirelle | mom, got aggroed |
| 22:49.49 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check it out tonight then |
| 22:49.50 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 22:50.15 | Adirelle | I'll try something : catch PET_ATTACK_STOP and checks if the pet gets out of combat at that time |
| 22:51.53 | Antiarc|Work | Did that work? |
| 22:52.27 | kenlyric | I don't see an option in open to change the width. |
| 22:52.32 | kenlyric | *omen |
| 22:53.14 | Antiarc|Work | There isn't ATM |
| 22:53.21 | Antiarc|Work | Because I'm not doing real anchoring right now |
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| 22:56.22 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: ooh, that new TPS function looks hot |
| 22:56.37 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't tested it. >_> |
| 22:56.44 | Antiarc|Work | However, when I do |
| 22:56.47 | Antiarc|Work | I'll make a TPS report |
| 22:56.50 | Antiarc|Work | And put a cover sheet on it. |
| 22:56.55 | hypetech | glad you got the memo |
| 22:56.57 | pastamancer | ;) |
| 22:57.30 | Kalman| | It should work. |
| 22:57.34 | Kalman| | In theory. |
| 22:57.55 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: got something, I'll give you a link as soon as pastey will respond :/ |
| 22:57.56 | pastamancer | it's math-y |
| 22:57.57 | Antiarc|Work | I think that's the difference between a computer scientest and a mathematician |
| 22:58.08 | Kalman| | pastamancer: It's the digital equivalent of an RC filter. |
| 22:58.26 | Antiarc|Work | The mathematician says "It's mathematically sound, of course it works!" |
| 22:58.28 | snurre | man, took like 90mins to set up the UI for my hunter :p |
| 22:58.31 | pastamancer | gotcha |
| 22:58.33 | Antiarc|Work | The CS guy says "I haven't tested it, so it probably doesn't work" |
| 22:58.41 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 22:58.57 | Kalman| | If I get really bored, I'll redo all the math for a second order filter just because. |
| 22:58.59 | Antiarc|Work | And of course, the liberal arts guy says: |
| 22:59.05 | Antiarc|Work | "Would you like fries with that?" |
| 22:59.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: and, if the CS guy is from MS, it's quickly followed by ", but we'll ship it anyway" |
| 22:59.22 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: http://ace.pastey.net/52111 => throw out the debug statements |
| 22:59.56 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Seems to work ok? |
| 23:00.05 | Adirelle | yes |
| 23:00.10 | Adirelle | just tested live |
| 23:00.30 | Adirelle | I'll test on a multimob fight, wait a min |
| 23:01.04 | snurre | http://crit-happens.net/snurre/cheezedoodleui.jpg *phew* |
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| 23:01.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38674 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Added fix to pet combat status from Adirelle |
| 23:01.41 | Adirelle | erm... |
| 23:01.45 | Adirelle | damn it |
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| 23:02.00 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, no go? |
| 23:02.20 | Adirelle | I'll try with the repeating event |
| 23:02.35 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, right, heh |
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| 23:03.58 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: seems okay with the repeating event |
| 23:04.05 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Excellent |
| 23:04.09 | Adirelle | just start it on ATTACK_STOP instead of ATTACK_START |
| 23:04.58 | Adirelle | and btw, that is what fucked of growl : as pet was recorded "out of combat" just before charging, the whole thing was ignored somehow |
| 23:05.04 | Antiarc|Work | o.0 |
| 23:05.05 | Antiarc|Work | http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:MqsffvfOOMMJ:siggen.xembler.org/+sig+generator+warcraft&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a |
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| 23:06.01 | telltrackissue | hello |
| 23:06.24 | cotangent | laf what was that about? |
| 23:06.48 | Stan4 | what do you guys use instead of EQCompare? |
| 23:07.06 | Arrowmaster | tekKompare |
| 23:07.16 | cotangent | what's wrong with EQCompare? |
| 23:07.23 | Arrowmaster | it sucks |
| 23:07.28 | Stan4 | it's not 2.1 compatible |
| 23:07.31 | Stan4 | and buggy |
| 23:07.37 | Arrowmaster | and it sucks |
| 23:07.37 | jamesofsophi | Is someone online who supports Bartender3 and/or Cooldowncount |
| 23:07.44 | ulic | my EQC works just fine in 2.1 |
| 23:07.58 | cotangent | hmm haven't had any problems with it |
| 23:07.58 | jamesofsophi | equipcompare from cosmos just works well |
| 23:08.06 | cotangent | thought about just turning it off now that there's a built in one, not sure how full featured it is |
| 23:08.42 | Arrowmaster | trust me, EQC sucks in how it works compared to tekKompare |
| 23:08.43 | hyperChipmunk | jamesofsophi: please, just ask your question |
| 23:08.49 | jamesofsophi | ok |
| 23:09.00 | jamesofsophi | call me james if you like |
| 23:09.02 | Stan4 | Arrowmaster, is tekKompare Ace? |
| 23:09.13 | Arrowmaster | does it matter? |
| 23:09.16 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:09.25 | Stan4 | yeah it does lol |
| 23:09.26 | Stan4 | hm |
| 23:09.31 | Kyahx | Stan4: no it dosent |
| 23:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | No, it doesn't |
| 23:09.41 | Stan4 | ok it doesn't |
| 23:09.45 | jamesofsophi | monty phyton? |
| 23:09.48 | Arrowmaster | EQC is old outdated and not maintained |
| 23:09.49 | Kyahx | Its written by tekkub, that matters |
| 23:09.57 | Xuerian | Stan4: There's a good number of addons too small to benefit from using ace2. It would just be a hinderance for one, and tekkub has been inching away from ace, 2. OVERALL IT DOESN'T FUCKING NEED TO BE ACE TO BE GOOD |
| 23:10.00 | vhaarr | He can't get it through the updater, that's what matters. |
| 23:10.08 | Arrowmaster | it uses old methods that suck compared to much easyer to use methods now |
| 23:10.16 | Stan4 | Xuerian, I got the point, thanks |
| 23:10.23 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: now i'll agree that matters, but that doesn't imply it has to be ace, either. ;) |
| 23:10.28 | Kyahx | He can however still get it, and update it, via tekkub's svn |
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| 23:10.31 | Kyahx | which is just as easy |
| 23:10.34 | Kyahx | IMO |
| 23:10.39 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: Indeed, I myself have non-Ace mods on the SVN. |
| 23:10.52 | vhaarr | Kyahx: Not for someone using an updater application. |
| 23:11.00 | Kyahx | eh, true |
| 23:11.15 | Kyahx | wasn't there rumor of WAU getting external site support? |
| 23:11.32 | NightHawkTheSane | course, thats what i dislike about that. It's made people say "well its not ace, so i dont want it, because it means i'd have to do a little extra work" |
| 23:11.40 | Arrowmaster | infact EQC was one of the causes for a lot of people getting Ace2 has tried to preform an illegal function errors in 2.0 |
| 23:11.54 | Adirelle | sometimes I forget I have to actually "drive" my flying mount... |
| 23:11.55 | CIA-22 | 03joshborke * r38675 10coolDown/coolDownState.lua: |
| 23:11.56 | CIA-22 | coolDown: |
| 23:11.56 | CIA-22 | - fix for cooldowns doubling when zoning |
| 23:11.58 | Arrowmaster | when using macros |
| 23:12.04 | kergoth | what's tekKompare give you that the built in one doesnt? just show it all the time? |
| 23:12.13 | Adirelle | and I wonder where I am after some afking... |
| 23:12.14 | Kyahx | pretty much |
| 23:12.26 | cotangent | doesn't holding shift make the built in one show whenever you want it? |
| 23:12.30 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:12.40 | NightHawkTheSane | There's a few places that teh built in one doesn't work |
| 23:12.53 | Kyahx | the default dosent show on item links |
| 23:12.56 | Xuerian | The built-in one replies on a specific function to be called |
| 23:12.58 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkompare removes the need to hold shift, and also adds comparison tooltips in those few other places |
| 23:13.01 | hyperChipmunk | is there a way to figure out if an item is able to go in a special bag? (ammo, profession, ...?) |
| 23:13.30 | tahoo | Antiarc|Work: http://ace.pastey.net/52115 <- fix for trinkets |
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| 23:13.49 | Stan4 | ok I got another addonquestion...what do you guys use instead of Enhanced Questlog |
| 23:13.50 | jamesofsophi | I have a stancedance addon on my warrior for fearavoidance. Bartender3 display the makro in two stances; Berserker stance and on another bar. When I use the macro it is supposed to get a 30 sec cooldown warning on it, but unfornutly it just shows in beserker stance and not on the "global" bar which means that I dont see the freaking cooldown for my fearbreaking |
| 23:14.02 | Antiarc|Work | Awesome, thank you, tahoo |
| 23:14.05 | NeoTron | Stan4: I just use enhanced questlog |
| 23:14.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Stan4: i use nQuestLog |
| 23:14.27 | Kyahx | Stan4: what does Enc. QuestLog do |
| 23:14.28 | kergoth | nQuestLog here too |
| 23:14.29 | NeoTron | although some non-official patched version that's slightly less buggy (as in I can open the pvp team window for example) |
| 23:15.02 | Stan4 | Kyahx, it displays the questtext in a seperate window |
| 23:15.06 | jamesofsophi | Addons mostlikely involved: Bartender3 and Cooldowncount |
| 23:15.24 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38676 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TheEye/ (. VoidReaver.lua): Threat-1.0: Added preliminary Void Reaver module - reduce threat by 25% on knock away |
| 23:15.35 | vhaarr | jamesofsophi: Paste the macro on some pastey site. |
| 23:16.20 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38677 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatBuffsData.lua: Threat-1.0: Buff fixes from tahoo |
| 23:16.26 | jamesofsophi | could you pls tell me what a pastey site is? I'm new here.. noob if you like |
| 23:16.48 | shieldb | jamesofsophi, basically you can paste some text (code/etc) into a site on the web where anyone can view it |
| 23:16.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ace.pastey.net |
| 23:16.58 | Stan4 | that's EQL3 http://wow.somegate.com/upload/leopardy323_1165884111_eql3.jpg |
| 23:17.06 | jamesofsophi | ok I'm feeling stupid ^^ |
| 23:17.09 | shieldb | so rather then pasting seventeen lines of code into IRC and spamming everyone, you can paste something there and give a link |
| 23:17.35 | jamesofsophi | its quite simpel.. switches to berserk, berserkrage, defstance done |
| 23:17.51 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38678 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TheEye/VoidReaver.lua: Threat-1.0: A few minor fixes to the Void Reaver module |
| 23:19.59 | jamesofsophi | oh pls dont hit me I'm using a german client... |
| 23:20.07 | Mikk | anyone with wowace.com filesystem access around? |
| 23:20.28 | jamesofsophi | http://ace.pastey.net/52120 |
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| 23:20.33 | pastamancer | Mikk: what's up? |
| 23:20.43 | JoshBorke | hrm. kergoth |
| 23:20.44 | jamesofsophi | this is the addon |
| 23:20.51 | JoshBorke | is there an equivalent to .vim for windows? |
| 23:21.19 | kebinusan | jb, yeah, gvim has something similar but I cant remember the name |
| 23:21.21 | kergoth | yeah, its vimfiles |
| 23:21.27 | kergoth | iirc its in your docs & settings / username dir |
| 23:21.28 | kebinusan | thar ye be |
| 23:21.32 | kergoth | and the .vimrc is _vimrc |
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| 23:21.40 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38679 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.xml: Threat-1.0: Actually enable the void reaver module |
| 23:21.52 | kaiden^ | in violation, is the Damage per Second kept an overall average? and not real time? |
| 23:22.02 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, so many blatant references in ev nova. >.> |
| 23:22.06 | JoshBorke | i got the _vimrc file, buti can't find any information about the directory in the help |
| 23:22.34 | JoshBorke | lame, all i get is runtimepath info |
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| 23:22.48 | JoshBorke | thanks guys |
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| 23:23.13 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r38680 10VanasKoS/Parser.lua: VanasKoS: VanasKoS: fixed a combat log message |
| 23:23.14 | kergoth | vimfiles should be in runtimepath |
| 23:23.58 | [Liquidor] | http://i11.tinypic.com/6auf39c.jpg |
| 23:24.24 | JoshBorke | yea, i found it |
| 23:24.53 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: errr wtf =) |
| 23:24.58 | hypetech | liquidor: wtf is that? |
| 23:25.08 | Mikk | he just kept going? you didn't say anything back during that whole tirade? |
| 23:25.29 | Cyrez | ckknight: Just found DogTag-1.0 has the same TOC problem as RollCall-1.0. They're both using Ace2 as a Dep instead of an X-Embed and an OpDep. |
| 23:26.04 | jamesofsophi | Is there anyone who can help me with the cooldowncount issue in Bartender3 with stancedance? |
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| 23:26.58 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, Well I did say stuff like "You're a funny little fell, ain't you?" etc :) |
| 23:27.04 | [Liquidor] | fella* |
| 23:27.10 | JoshBorke | anyone to save vimrc processing errors? |
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| 23:27.24 | jamesofsophi | http://ace.pastey.net/52120 This is the macro which dont gets a cooldown on its on every bar |
| 23:27.33 | jamesofsophi | as it did before the patch |
| 23:27.49 | vhaarr | jamesofsophi: You need to use the new #show stuff, I think. |
| 23:27.54 | vhaarr | jamesofsophi: wowwiki has more information. |
| 23:27.56 | cotangent | try adding #showtooltip berserker rage |
| 23:28.07 | cotangent | at the top |
| 23:28.31 | jamesofsophi | on berserkerstance it show the cooldown just not on the other bars wenn i switch back to def |
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| 23:30.10 | CIA-22 | 03skyboat * r38681 10Squeenix/ (. Libs/ NESW.lua): Squeenix: Remove Blizzard's annoying (N)orth tag as we provide our own. |
| 23:32.56 | jamesofsophi | thanx I will try that by tomorrow due to server login restrictions |
| 23:33.13 | jamesofsophi | cya tomorrow to bother you further or hug you ^^ |
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| 23:36.29 | Diao | erm |
| 23:36.48 | Diao | nymbia: just updated addons with WAU 1 minute ago and i get this on login: http://ace.pastey.net/52127 |
| 23:37.36 | Bruners | will misdirection be fixed in this patch ? |
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| 23:38.21 | JoshBorke | hrm, kergoth, what do you use? tabs or spaces? |
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| 23:40.24 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38682 10Violation_CombatLogRange/Violation_CombatLogRange.lua: Violation_CombatLogRange: Added localization koKR |
| 23:41.32 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r38683 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix syntax error. |
| 23:42.14 | [Liquidor] | Notepad2 with lua syntax <3 |
| 23:43.27 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r38684 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: s/Dectivate/Deactivate |
| 23:44.09 | kaiden^ | kergoth, i found out what that frame was making it so i couldn't click through |
| 23:44.15 | kaiden^ | Yata's Totem Timer anchor |
| 23:44.15 | BankZ | Does violation only show effective healing? |
| 23:46.16 | JoshBorke | kergoth: how do i move the windowlist back to the top? |
| 23:51.29 | BankZ | seems like it just does total healing, which is kinda point less |
| 23:51.36 | BankZ | unless I am missing something |
| 23:52.08 | vhaarr | It does efficient, there's a separate Overhealing module. |
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| 23:52.42 | BankZ | I mean, in combat |
| 23:53.06 | BankZ | rather than just heals |
| 23:53.20 | LePeR|Jaunia | does healing done minus overhealing? |
| 23:53.23 | Antiarc|Work | Holy crap, nerd wedding of the century: http://knoxnews.com/kns/local_news/article/0,1406,KNS_347_5568216,00.html |
| 23:53.58 | BankZ | so that it filters out all of those ppl that try and bump their healing by healing after battle |
| 23:56.22 | Xuerian | BankZ: If you're in a group that tries to bump healing, then you're in the wrong group |
| 23:56.40 | Xuerian | BankZ: Conversely, if you're in a group that bumps healing that cares about bumping healing, you're in the wrong group |
| 23:57.09 | Kalman| | Xuerian: Now start using contrapositively. |
| 23:57.28 | Xuerian | Kalman|: Izzat a word, Nifty =D |
| 23:57.35 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, yes it is. :P |
| 23:57.38 | Antiarc|Work | Yup! |
| 23:57.41 | kergoth | kaiden^, what was it? and how did you find out? :) |
| 23:57.44 | Kalman| | <3 logic. |
| 23:59.15 | kergoth | JoshBorke, i use whatever indentation style the file i'm editing uses.. dont have a strong opinion on it. my personal -preference- is to use tabs for -indentation- but spaces for -alignment- (i wrote a vim plugin to assist in that), but it depends. my python generally is 4 space indentation |
| 23:59.20 | JoshBorke | kergoth: cool, was just curious :-) i got your vimrc file working :-D |
| 23:59.28 | kergoth | cool :) |
