IRC log for #wowace on 20070602

00:00.31tsigo[Ammo]: SRA\SRA.lua:74: 'then' expected near 'DoReadyCheck' - I'd fix it but can't think of a good commit message :P
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00:01.06Antiarc|Worktsigo: "WHERE IS YOUR THEN NOW?"
00:01.21tsigoAntiarc|Work: gotta fit the acronym!
00:01.50NightHawkTheSaneSomewhere response absent!
00:01.56sbunekoh: if we find that bug in next 10 minutes - i have svn access...
00:02.09Antiarc|WorkGoing home now :)
00:02.16Antiarc|WorkLater folks.
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00:03.58NightHawkTheSaneis the level requirement for 225+ cooking 30 or 35?
00:03.58nekohsbu: just finishing my debug msgs :) done in a sec
00:04.26sbuyup
00:04.33sbudoing some quests here at the moment..
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00:12.16nekohok sbu done, you're running enGB? so suggest i test with deDE
00:12.17RoartindonWow, I live in a retarded place. Hands free mobile phones are illegal while driving now too.
00:12.44sbunekoh: enUS, but yep
00:13.01sbunative enUS installation, so no deDE for me
00:13.24nekohokay
00:13.31nekohyou're horde right ?
00:13.45Neeblercop pulls you over for talking to yourself. say you're crazy and talking to yourself. if the hands free talks back, say its the radio
00:14.20sbunekoh: yep
00:15.07nekohkomm zum orcstartgebiet, wenns geht
00:15.42NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: thats not retarded. it's a distraction, just because you're not using you're hands doesn't mean you're paying enough attention to driving. If you need to talk, pull over :P
00:16.19RoartindonNightHawkTheSane: is it anymore distraction than talking to someone sitting in the passenger seat?
00:16.58NightHawkTheSaneit can be
00:17.08RoartindonNow, anyone that has a mobile phone docked into their car (cradle or bluetooth) is breaking the law using it
00:17.19RoartindonI don't know where that leaves taxi drivers
00:17.31NightHawkTheSanethere's not usually a chance of straining to hear/understand a person 3 feet away, but signal/interference and whatnot can make hearing someone over a cell more effort
00:17.33RoartindonOr services that require communications
00:17.47fixtzeehm why isnt the pet control bar (castbar) for Chess event showing on aguf?
00:18.27RoartindonNightHawkTheSane: I have no qualms about making using a held-mobile phone while driving illegal
00:18.44RoartindonI'm just not sure about making all of the hands free ones illegal 'works'
00:19.29FtH|Daemonafixtze i doubt ag_uf modifies the pet bar in anyway? at least last time i was using it.
00:20.16NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: yeah, ill admit there's a lot of leeway and edge cases that make it stickier to implement, but at the heart it's not a terribly bad idea.
00:21.17KarlThePaganRoartindon, sometimes talking to a person in the car is more destracting... depends on the driver ;0
00:21.33KarlThePaganI know a guy who totally should not drive with passengers he's talking to
00:22.06kenlyricanyone using bartender (or maybe pitbull) have issues on chess event? I kept clicking on my move button, but the green circle would randomly disappear and i'd have to click it again.
00:22.16kenlyricand, there was no cooldown on movement, only on attacks.
00:23.23KarlThePagansounds like the issue I had with mass dispel pre-2.1
00:23.24sbuchess cooldowns are broken
00:23.37KarlThePaganaw
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00:27.22kenlyricis it a mod thing, or a blizzard thing?
00:27.54kenlyricmoving the pawn wasn't so hard once i figured out what was causing the error (mousing over units or unitframes), but the horse was a lot rougher :)
00:28.35Thorgard^2Hmm.
00:28.51Thorgard^2Anyone know why Violation stopped reporting Damage Done from other people in my party?
00:31.12KarlThePagankenlyric, sounds like a blizzard thing
00:31.33KarlThePaganif you mouse over actual units and it goes away...
00:31.41KarlThePagannot something that mods can hook into right?
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00:34.59nymbiayou could i guess
00:35.04nymbiawell, no
00:35.31nymbiacause we can't call stopcasting
00:35.44nymbiabut you could set GameTooltip's OnTooltipSetUnit handler
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00:41.20AntiarcWhere can I find doc on pet scaling?
00:42.00LorielWho is the dude who maintains closetgnome?
00:42.23AntiarcNevermind, found it
00:43.08Thorgard^2Antiarc, where at?
00:44.42Antiarchttp://www.wowwiki.com/Growl_%28pet%29
00:45.28Thorgard^2Ah, cool. Always wondered about the scaling of that.
00:45.55CIA-2203antiarc * r38031 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: Threat-1.0: baseLevel => minLevel
00:48.14CIA-2203daviesh * r38032 10AtlasLoot/AtlasLoot.toc:
00:48.14CIA-22AtlasLoot:
00:48.14CIA-22- Added as optional dependancies all the Ace libraries used by the mod
00:48.33AntiarcPet aggro seems to be working for me.
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01:02.08NightHawkTheSaneblarg, anyone know what the level requirement for 225+ cooking is?
01:02.24Peoiisan35
01:02.35NightHawkTheSanedamn, 5 more levels, thanks.
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01:10.00nekohAntiarc: ping
01:10.17Antiarcnekoh: Pong
01:10.58nekohremove: if not partyUnits[unit] then return end in :UNIT_TARGET
01:11.11nekohsince its always partyX, target. partypetX
01:11.25CIA-2203antiarc * r38033 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Turn of broken misdirection flag
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01:13.02Antiarcnekoh: I'm not sure I understand. Can't that fire for your target, which would mean that if target = NPC, targettarget == friendly that we don't need localization for?
01:13.19nekohand change "if not t.fromLocale then" to "if not mobNameTranslations[mobName][targetLocale] then" in :MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REPLY
01:13.24nekohyes it can
01:13.30nekohbut its not a name you get
01:13.37nekohyou get specific unitID
01:13.50nekohso this check wont work
01:14.06nekoh(always true -> return)
01:15.44nekohand if it fires for my target, UnitIsUnit("target", targetUnit) wont match anyway
01:16.26AntiarcHah, you're right
01:17.52nekohto be sure, you could make a match like "if not unit:match("party") or unit:match("raid") then return end"
01:17.53sbunekoh: -> wow ;p
01:18.01nekohbut i guess its not needed
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01:24.45tsigohas anyone else had problems with Violation syncing? 4 people in my raid use it, and we all don't see eachother on Damage, at all
01:25.30Thorgard^2tsigo, yeah, same problem. I can't see other people's 'Damage Done', they show up on the 'DPS' list, though.
01:25.46tsigoThorgard^2: but only for those running it as well, right?
01:25.52tsigowe see everyone else's damage as accurate
01:26.15Thorgard^2tsigo, not sure, only been grouping with someone else running it.
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01:34.40ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: ping
01:35.20KarlThePaganautobar... doing many strange things
01:35.23KarlThePagantime for pt3bar
01:37.08AntiarcZealotOnAStick: Pong
01:37.58ZealotOnAStickTrying to get my guildmates to get Bugsack/grabber so they can send me them .  . but Omen 37985 and Threat 38029, some of them are getting some error about "Unit is Unit"
01:38.24nekohAntiarc: also add "self:UpdateMobNameTranslationHashes()" to the end of :MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REQUEST, since its now translated for us and we need hashes !
01:39.42Diaodoes anyone aside from me have a strange bug with skinner where sometimes it shows borders around frames and other times it doesn't?
01:39.50GalkaOminous: ClassTimer's problem with resetting user settings still isnt fixed
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01:40.54AntiarcZealotOnAStick: Chasing that one now
01:40.56Antiarcnekoh: Thanks.
01:41.48kergothcan you cast pet spells in a macro?
01:42.08pastamanceryes
01:42.10Kaydeethreesure: /cast Spell
01:42.31Kaydeethreeor /click PetActionBar# iirc
01:44.07ZealotOnASticknymbia: ping
01:44.51kergothah
01:44.58kergoththanks :)
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01:45.42nymbiaZealotOnAStick: pong
01:45.59ZealotOnAStickQuartz is supposed to work with ToFu for flight timer bars, right?
01:47.25nymbiaso i'm told
01:47.34nymbiai didnt add that part
01:47.42ZealotOnAStickok, any idea where the timer bar is by default?
01:48.02ZealotOnAStickI've got it enabled . . . but I can't find the bar anywhere.
01:51.44Gngskyou have anything else tofu can hook?
01:51.44ZealotOnAStickCartographer.  Used to have eCB, but replaced it with Quartz.
01:51.44ZealotOnASticksort of irritating, actually, eCB is grayed out, but checked, but I can't uncheck it.
01:51.44Kirkburn|sleepHeh, what does this say about WinXP stability? My laptop has been on for about 1 1/2 weeks
01:51.44Seda|ecb? enemy cast bar?
01:51.45ZealotOnAStickeCastingBar
01:51.45Seda|ooh right
01:51.45Seda|meh
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01:51.46Antiarc[cheald@cetus cheald]$ uptime - up 386 days
01:51.46Antiarc<_<
01:51.53CIA-2203kergoth * r38034 10Assessment/Modules/ (UserInterface.lua UserInterfaceOptions.lua): Assessment: Add a 'border style' option like InFlight's.
01:52.00nekohAntiarc: set "self.lastPartySize = 0" when youre not in raid AND not in group in PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED
01:52.13jmei would've posted an uptime of 480+ days but apparently this box was rebooted 2 days ago
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01:55.02Gamefaqhi
01:57.43Thorgard^2Howdy.
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01:57.50Cyrez[2007/06/01 18:56:35-904-x1]: Fence-1.0.38014\modules\Fence_Browse.lua:60: AceLocale(Fence_Browse): Translation "Show Single-Price" does not exist.
01:58.04hyperChipmunkmy power always goes out
01:58.32nekohAntiarc: you still there? :P
01:58.32Thorgard^2hyperChipmunk, learn2UPS
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02:06.25nekohAntiarc: if you've fixed everything that i told you before, and also fills partyMemberLocales with the playerName and his locale e.g. ("partyMemberLocales[UnitName("player")] = MyLocale" in PublishLocaleAndVersion()), localization works
02:11.21sbuAntiarc? :p
02:12.42NightHawkTheSanelol.. http://www.codepoetry.net/2007/03/17/chipotle_humor
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02:18.31vodrinwell it only took me 1hr to get on top of IF Bank
02:18.42vodrinand the excitement of getting there lasted rougly 3 seconds
02:18.44vodrin:<
02:19.28Antiarcsorry, went AFK a bit
02:19.33AntiarcI'll get the fixes committed
02:19.37sbuuhm
02:19.41AntiarcIncidentally, what's the spell name for melee attack, if any?
02:19.44sbui was about to commit in 5s :p
02:19.50AntiarcGo for it, sbu
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02:22.10CIA-2203sbu * r38035 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: nekoh fixed localization - should work now :)
02:24.45Thorgard^2Hmmm.
02:25.01Thorgard^2Is the Pitbull debuff highlighting broken?
02:25.07hyperChipmunkAntiarc: Attack
02:25.12Thorgard^2Doesn't seem to work for me anymore.
02:25.35hyperChipmunkand Auto Shot
02:25.50hyperChipmunkor Shoot
02:26.10break19hyperChipmunk: dont be givin antiarc attack orders without a target.. you'll screw up his AI and he'll go rogue and kill us all!
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02:28.25ckknightAntiarc: what's the parser registration problem?
02:29.37ckknightback, btw
02:29.42AntiarchyperChipmunk: Doesn't work
02:29.50Antiarcckknight: Can't specify eventType_in
02:29.53break19no shit, ck. :p
02:29.56AntiarcOnly one eventType
02:30.00hyperChipmunk/cast Attack
02:30.02hyperChipmunkwfm
02:30.14break19hyperChipmunk: /attack
02:30.21ckknightAntiarc: oh... right
02:30.22hyperChipmunkthat too, but that isn't what he asked
02:30.34ckknightAntiarc: yea... it's not meant to do that
02:30.42AntiarcOk. I changed it to two calls.
02:30.56Thorgard^2Hey, ckknight, do you know if the debuff highlighting in Pitbull's currently broken?
02:30.59AntiarchyperChipmunk: Trying to get IsSpellInRange("Attack", "target") or equivalent
02:31.06AntiarcTrying to tell if I'm in melee range or not
02:31.10ckknightThorgard^2: it could be due to the path change I made, may have broken it
02:31.22ckknightThorgard^2: do you mean the frame itself highlighting or the auras?
02:31.36JaxonAntiarc: /startattack /stopattack works as well.
02:31.51break19what is this? ck, you feelin ok? You're bein nice to someone questionin if somethings broken. :)
02:32.06Thorgard^2ckknight, the frame itself. I can see the aura debuffs, but the spiffy frame highlighting isn't working
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02:32.30hyperChipmunkhe wasn't asking for a macro, he wanted a spell name =P
02:32.32CIA-2203ckknight * r38036 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fix aura highlighting and debuff frame highlighting.
02:32.33break19i'd better just go play before i piss him off.. again.. heh
02:32.41Gagoriannymbia: ping
02:32.47ckknightbreak19: don't make me skullfuck you
02:32.55Thorgard^2ckknight, rockin'.
02:32.55break19promises promises
02:32.57hyperChipmunkAntiarc: is there not an API for that?
02:33.06ckknightsee, I'm not the type to wait and eek out revenge. I'm more in it for the thrills.
02:33.14AntiarcJaxon: Not understanding
02:33.31break19heh.. well. on that note *vanish*
02:33.34AntiarchyperChipmunk: Yeah, IsSpellInRange("Attack", "target") except Attack isn't a valid spell name or something
02:33.34Jaxon07member:identifier:antiarc
02:33.35Jaxon:
02:33.35JaxonIncidentally, what's the spell name for melee attack, if any?
02:33.37Jaxonooops
02:33.42nymbiaGagorian: pong
02:33.43JaxonThis client copies weird
02:33.46sbukickban!
02:33.51sbu:/
02:34.34Gagoriannymbia: You've probably heard of the PT3Bar issue where no icon textures are being displayed? Have you figured out why? It seems to be quite random. Same addons enabled, and it works only on other char on the account
02:35.04nymbiaGagorian: no idea.. i might be able to figure it out if i could reproduce it :(
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02:35.35GagorianYeah I tried but couldn't either. I directed one of my guildies to try it, and she got it on her druid but not on her shaman.
02:35.54Gagorian*the bug that is
02:38.40GagorianI really can't see how it is happening since itemcount etc is updating properly. The textures just dont work -_-
02:39.42CIA-2203antiarc * r38037 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed invalid method in melee range check, fixed excessing rehashing in MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REQUEST, fixed duplicate data from KTM bug.
02:42.16grennon<PROTECTED>
02:42.49vodrinthreat-1.0 is coming along swimingly :>, used at vashj today and was find for staying 3rd in phase1
02:42.53vodrinfine*
02:43.15CIA-2203nymbia * r38038 10ForkliftGnome/ (6 files):
02:43.15CIA-22ForkliftGnome:
02:43.16CIA-22- Initial import.
02:43.16CIA-22- A gnome with a forklift to load up addons and knock holes in your walls.
02:43.16grennonwhats the frontend for threat?
02:43.33vodrinkinda expecting someone to make a threatbar addon though, just a simple bar with % of threat to ToT =]
02:43.44vodrintheres omen and violation atm afaik
02:44.10grennoni thought violation was a dmm type mod
02:44.22vodrinit is
02:44.44vodrindamage done, healing done, etc., target threat
02:44.49vodrinfits nicely imo
02:44.53CIA-2203antiarc * r38039 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Oops. Syntax error in the KTM fix.
02:45.05ulicgrennon: also assesment
02:45.27Thorgard^2I wish Violation would show me the Damage Done for my party members again.
02:45.28grennonill have to check violation out then, but im pretty happy with hawksy's recap fork
02:45.49vodrintheres quite a few upcoming dm/encounter logs coming up
02:45.56vodrinrecount looks promising
02:46.02Thorgard^2Aye.
02:46.25vodrinassessment is another one being worked on
02:48.20ulicassessment says he'll have damage breakdowns like Recap does, but he's only been working on it for two days
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02:49.42sbuyay
02:49.48sbuworks :)
02:50.08sbuthank you Antiarc & nekoh :o
02:50.28nekoh:)
02:52.29sbuuhh error
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02:52.51kergothhmm, threat-1.0 said i had 1900, pet had 1000, and he still had aggro
02:53.11CIA-2203nymbia * r38040 10ForkliftGnome/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
02:53.11CIA-22ForkliftGnome:
02:53.11CIA-22- libs, externals, random other junk.
02:53.53vodrinhunter?
02:54.18kergothyea
02:54.19kebinusanforkliftgnome?
02:54.32kergoth<CIA-22> - A gnome with a forklift to load up addons and knock holes in your walls. - hmm
02:54.32kergothheh
02:54.46kebinusanheh
02:54.53kebinusancryptic
02:54.55kergothvodrin, omen, violation, recount, assessment
02:55.03kergothall can show threat-1.0 data
02:55.20vodrinah didn't know recount did too
02:55.23KeiasWhat's Vodrin?
02:55.24sbupet threat overwrites normal threat
02:55.28Keiasoh rofl
02:55.29vodrinlol
02:55.30KeiasDamn commas
02:55.38vodrinshould have been a ;!
02:56.47Gngsknymbia, ping
02:57.14Thorgard^2vodrin, I need you to come show Threat-1.0 data for me.
02:57.18kergothhehe, i keep meaning to configure xchat to use : when completing, but i'm lazy
02:57.21nymbiaGngsk: ?
02:57.26sbuAntiarc: pet threat replaces player threat in omen
02:57.28vodrineh?
02:57.56Thorgard^2Be my threatmeter.
02:58.17vodrinover a tanoy
02:58.38kergothhehe, threat-1.0/assessment said i had 1600 threat and my pet had 600 and he held aggro
02:58.41kergothsomething is off :)
02:59.00vodrinwhat pet abilities are firing ?
02:59.01kergothmaybe its just the modifier for charge that hyper mentioned before.. /me pulls without it to check
02:59.20kergothit's a boar.  charges, then growls, bites, gores
02:59.30kergothcharge seems to really piss mobs off, thats probably it
02:59.49sbuor growl?
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03:01.03kergotha pull without a charge, as soon as i had like 800-900 and the pet had 500 i pulled aggro as expected
03:01.09kergothmust be charge, will experiment
03:01.16AntiarcGood stuff
03:01.54vodrinif its giving ~800 threat thats imba =p
03:02.20Jaxonkergoth: stuns are a lot of aggro.
03:02.26JaxonA LOT
03:02.35CIA-2203antiarc * r38041 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Request version and locale info on startup. Solves all kinds of problems, I think.
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03:06.47CIA-2203antiarc * r38042 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Added melee/range aggro gain bars. Need to find a good spell to test with to test melee range.
03:07.41vodrin/cast target
03:07.54kergothAntiarc, nice
03:08.00vodrini suck so bad, /cast attack
03:08.15vodrinstarts auto attack, so weird it can't be used
03:11.22Arrowmasterwhat are you trying to do with /cast attack?
03:12.23vodrin'Added melee/range aggro gain bars. Need to find a good spell to test with to test melee range.'
03:13.16ckknighthey Antiarc
03:13.17ckknightpants
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03:14.52Borked|Raiderdont a dropdown sellect thing have a handle for when changed?
03:16.45Antiarcwut
03:16.52AntiarcI am wearing pants.
03:19.10AntiarcI think it's because attack is a toggle
03:19.17Antiarcrather than a spell youcast
03:20.50wobinhm
03:21.17wobinMy pet isn't showing up on the threat meter, only me. What do you need for this to actually help? =)
03:24.00Gngskckknight, could you please add a 'stealth only' option to the spark module for rogues/druids?
03:24.09ckknightyou do it
03:24.10Antiarcwobin: Hrm. What revision are you running?
03:24.14Gngskbah, fine
03:24.55wobinIt's also erratic in the 'not showing' 38033 for Threat
03:25.02wobinand 37985 for omen?
03:25.13wobinin that it's showing -now- =)
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03:27.14NightHawkTheSanehmm.. interesting http://myspace.com/stardustmovie
03:27.51Keiascalled Stardust and no Bowie anywhere ;(
03:29.19NightHawkTheSanewhat? bowie? huh?
03:29.21KillmoreAntiarc: I just try Omen after 12hours, just WOW, amazing.. I dont even need KTM :P
03:30.33AntiarcKillmore: *grin*
03:30.37AntiarcGlad it's working for you!
03:30.59Antiarcwobin: Latest is Omen 38042/Threat 38041
03:31.15KillmoreAntiarc: its not working for you ? :P
03:31.25ItankstuffAntiarc what type of data do you need for threat/omen? Ill be happy to collect it for you
03:31.41ItankstuffEveryone in my guild hates KTM >>
03:31.44grennonscreenshots of Omen?
03:31.55AntiarcKillmore: It is :)
03:32.03Antiarcgrennon: Uhh...one sec, I'll get a shot for you on Aran
03:32.19AntiarcItankstuff: I think it's getting to be mostly complete.
03:32.22AntiarcLook for holes, I guess
03:32.25AntiarcInconsistencies
03:32.30Itankstuffk
03:32.49ItankstuffWhen you get a chance please do look at the sanity2 problem I PMed you
03:32.56grennoni really like the Recap interface, itll be hard for me to give it up, but it lacks reporting to say/raid of results
03:33.19grennonbut if i can dump 2 mods for one, thats a win
03:34.16ckknight50,000 battered women ... and I still eat mine plain.
03:34.44grennonnice
03:38.57CIA-2203cronan * r38043 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: koKR - Vashj engage translation.
03:39.36Antiarcgrennon: http://i19.tinypic.com/539xamq.jpg
03:41.16JaxonMoroes with no priests, bahahaha.
03:43.19KillmoreMessage: ...nterface\AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0.lua line 438:   Error: PublishThreat() has been called without an active class moduleDebug:   Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:428:      Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:403
03:43.33Killmorewith r38041 and  r38042
03:43.44AntiarcKillmore: Yeah, seeing that one show up every so often - working on it
03:43.49AntiarcHappened right after a reload?
03:43.56AntiarcOr when people died?
03:44.02Killmoreyeah, I did an update and do a reloadui
03:44.58KillmoreI just walk 2 yards and I get
03:44.59KillmoreMessage: ..\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua line 106:   Bad argument #2 to `UnitIsUnit'. expected "string", got "nil" (nil)
03:45.31KillmoreIm in a party, probably get KTM threat for other friends
03:46.26AntiarcOk. Seen that one two. They're related.
03:46.28AntiarcThanks.
03:46.45Antiarcerr, too
03:47.23ItankstuffWere you in combat killmore?
03:47.31ckknightAntiarc: Shaman is your MT?
03:47.39CIA-2203tsigo * r38044 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Some ReadyCheck Adjustment.
03:47.52CIA-2203roartindon * r38045 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/UserInterface.lua): Assessment: There's a bad memory leak that I'll fix after I finish my raid. Interim kb/sec hack
03:48.12CIA-2203nymbia * r38046 10ForkliftGnome/ (Conditions.lua ForkliftGnome.lua):
03:48.12CIA-22ForkliftGnome:
03:48.12CIA-22- Properly deactivate temporary slash commands when the addon is loaded by something other than one of those commands.
03:48.23ItankstuffCkknight: Its aran there is no tank
03:48.25jmefinally kara keyed
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03:48.48ckknightI don't raid, I dunno
03:48.58shieldbItankstuff, aran does actually have a normal threat list - that's what determines who he'll melee if he's going to do so
03:49.43AtriaceIs there a function for setting the WoW UIScale?
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03:50.28AntiarcAran is an aggroless fight
03:50.38AntiarcSo it's a bad fight to show off a threat meter
03:50.42AntiarcBut there it is anyway :P
03:50.48ItankstuffEven on the meele its still a random person in range
03:51.22KinkxNice, Recap on SVN :o
03:51.22nekohAntiarc: just wanted to remind you, that you didnt fix the taunt functionality with the globalthreat-problem (no offense, in case you forgot about that)
03:51.22JaxonRecap wasn't uploaded by the author, just with his permission
03:51.25KillmoreItankstuff: no, I was not in combat
03:51.38Antiarcnekoh: I haven't gotten to it yet :(
03:51.41AntiarcIt's on the list though
03:52.03KinkxJaxon, uploaded by Hawksy right?
03:52.05nekohah okay
03:52.18JaxonKinkx: no, someone in here
03:52.32nekohyou should update the todo.txt though :P
03:52.35KinkxOhh..
03:52.46Antiarcnekoh: Heh, I should
03:53.02KinkxSo Hawksy won't maintain it on the SVN then I assume
03:53.04vodrinwhats the frame name of the blizzard /rw frame?
03:53.25ArrowmasterRaidWarningFrame
03:54.06vodrinthanks :>
03:54.09grennoni mentioned hawksy's recap this afternoon and linked it, someone else committed it, i doubt Hawksy even knows
03:54.22nymbiawho committed it?
03:54.38nekohhe committed with permission from hawksy
03:54.44nekohat least that's what he said
03:54.48grennonoh cool
03:55.16KinkxBut kind of strange to commit it when Hawksy won't maintain it on the SVN imo
03:55.35Thorgard^2'Ze person was 'dotted'.
03:56.00JaxonRecap isn't an ace mod is it?
03:56.21grennonits a parser lib based damage parser
03:56.24nymbiai think gello would kill some people if he found anything he wrote had been uploaded to our svn
03:57.08ckknightlet's do it!
03:57.12JaxonIs he not a big ace fan?
03:57.18ckknightno
03:57.20ckknighthe's not
03:57.25ckknighthe has his own issues, though
03:57.28NimbleRabitDoes anyone know if there's a good warlock mod that mimics what Shard Tracker did?
03:57.35ckknightAmmoFu
03:58.14NimbleRabitNo I think not
03:58.29ckknightwhat did Shard Tracker do, then?
03:58.32KinkxWhy doesn't Gello like Ace2 :[
03:58.47KinkxShardAce, NimbleRabit
03:58.48kebinusanNimbleRabit: if you just want a shard count, eeshards
03:58.58NimbleRabitkebinusan: No I don't just want a shard count =P
03:59.08ckknightthen you have to tell what you do want
03:59.13nymbianear as i can tell, gello thinks it sucks because of personal issues with certain people
03:59.22kebinusanif you want one of those silly wheel things, theres some ace addon for that too
03:59.26ckknightsuch as me
03:59.55nymbiathere was this thread where he was ranting about how much it sucked, then someone else posted and he was like OH YEAH i forgot you worked on ace2 as well, i guess it's not so bad!
04:00.02NeeblerRuben texture is the new hotness, goodbye glaze
04:00.03KinkxNimbleRabit - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4675-ShardAce.html
04:00.17NimbleRabitI'll check it out thanks
04:00.39aen`today ive determined that SCL rewrite to parser3 is impossible
04:00.43KinkxHmm okie
04:00.52kebinusanI prefer litestep
04:01.03vodrinsmooth v2 <3
04:01.22KeiasNeebler, is Ruben new?
04:01.24KinkxOtravi and flatsmooth :>
04:01.26KeiasHaven't seen it yet.
04:01.31KeiasI loved Flatsmooth :(
04:01.32grennonhawksy's recap is suffiently modified from the old recap that he really cant make a fuss
04:01.47grennonit does sync, etc
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04:01.50ckknightnymbia: right, that was cladhaire
04:02.35KinkxGello aint maintaining his addons anymore it seems, or maybe he quit or something :|
04:02.46KinkxI kind of like ItemRack :x
04:02.50JaxonItemRack 2.0 still works.
04:03.24KinkxI'm using the beta version, works fine, but says beta and all.. and he hasn't updated anything in a long time
04:03.51kebinusanHmm, does sharedmeda have some sort of option for 'default' that could change once in shared media to change the texture of all the bares that use the shared media
04:03.57kebinusanor something to that effect if that makes any sense
04:03.58nymbiackknight: that was a funny thread.
04:04.10kebinusans/bares/bars
04:05.21ulickebinusan: I was just thinking the same thing
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04:06.59NimbleRabitKinkx: Thanks! exactly like the old ShardTracker
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04:09.06Kinkx^^
04:09.14ItankstuffAntiarc, are you planning on adding a TPS section to omen?
04:09.58CIA-2203roartindon * r38047 10Assessment/Modules/UserInterface.lua: Assessment: Plugged one memory leak.
04:10.14AntiarcItankstuff: Yup.
04:11.10NimbleRabitKinkx: he added 1 more button though, I wonder why
04:11.22CIA-2203jayhawk * r38048 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (4 files):
04:11.22CIA-22FuBar_PetInfoFu:
04:11.22CIA-22- added "time til pet levels" option
04:12.27kebinusanIts pretty amazing that ThreatLib has been worked on what? A week or two and already there are three interfaces for it
04:12.48kebinusanwell 4 I guess, I think recount uses it now too
04:12.52AntiarcIt's just over 1 week old
04:13.10CIA-2203nymbia * r38049 10Doodle/Doodle.toc:
04:13.10CIA-22Doodle:
04:13.10CIA-22- ForkliftGnome toc field stuff.
04:13.27NimbleRabitis threat ready to replace ktm yet?
04:13.32kebinusanyea thats what I thought
04:14.06kebinusanNimbleRabit: I dunno, the npc modules for threat reducers and such seemed pretty missing atm
04:14.19kebinusanIve never used KTM
04:14.21kebinusantho
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04:22.02grennonyou would wipe all night training new people
04:22.02vodrinsoulstoning 25 man raid isn't an exploit
04:22.24kebinusanvodrin: If you look at the changes in 2.1 blizzard would tend to consider it not a good use of game mechanics :-)
04:22.25vodrinits just over the top and not tuned for ;p
04:22.51vodrinlike world buffs were!
04:22.51kebinusanso yeah, its pretty easy to infer it an exploit
04:22.51kebinusansince its no longer possible
04:23.08vodrinno, you can't tune a fight around the whole raid being soulstoned
04:23.20vodrinlike you can't tune a fight around everyone having ony buff
04:23.31vodrinthey made >63's not get ony buff
04:23.40Thorgard^2They should've just made it so that the soulstone goes away if the Warlock who cast it logs off. ;P
04:23.40vodrindoes that mean ony buff was an exploit beforehand?
04:23.50vodrinjust an overly powerful mechanic which they have changed
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04:24.08kebinusanan exploited mechanic by players who would do anything to be number one
04:24.10NimbleRabitexplain this soulstone thing
04:24.15Kinkx25 man soulstone is sissycore, but not an exploit
04:24.24kebinusanIts not possible anymore really
04:24.30NimbleRabitExplain!
04:24.31NimbleRabit=P
04:24.35vodrinits still possible to soulstone 3/5th of the raid
04:24.48kebinusanyeah they should make them disappear on zoning too
04:24.49vodrinNimbleRabit, beg in shattrath/alts w/e for soulstones
04:24.50kebinusanhonestly
04:24.55vodrinand zerg with a 2nd life
04:24.57kebinusantake 25 alts, soulstone your raid
04:24.57NimbleRabitoh
04:25.04kebinusanand bam everyone gets a free death
04:25.08NimbleRabitthat was an anticlimatic explanation
04:25.08KinkxNot worth it, just kick your bad players imo, instead of having to rely on soulstones to do stuff
04:25.25ulicnot free, 10% dur loss :P
04:25.26kebinusanthats now method beat vashj, and nihilum beat a couple bosses too
04:25.31NimbleRabitI always hate adding new keybindings
04:25.33NimbleRabitso hard to get used to
04:25.36vodrinwell, nihilum used it to beat alar's meteor
04:25.42kebinusanyeah
04:25.49vodrinjust let the target die to the meteor on his own
04:25.59vodrinand ress self
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04:26.32vodrinwas taking hydross to 250% nature and staying there an exploit?
04:26.48vodrinor setting loot threshold to poor and group looting tainted cores? :D
04:26.56CIA-2203ruldar * r38053 10FuBar_TransporterFu/ (FuBar_TransporterFu.toc TransporterFu.lua): FuBar_TransporterFu: svn keyword fix
04:26.59tsigothe tainted core thing is beyond lame
04:27.23tsigothere's a reason it roots you and has a throw mechanic
04:27.41kebinusanvordin, bringing 25 alts to soulstone your raid so you can die more times than intended is a bit different than group looting tainted cores or taking a chance at your tank dying to a one shot from hydross
04:27.53kebinusanthat assumes you could get your tank in 365nr and 495 defense or w/e
04:28.17kebinusanwhich some groups would have certainly had problems with, it trivialized the fight, but its not the same as taking advantage of a calss ability like that
04:28.30kebinusanif you look at what happens with greater paladin blessings not staying when a paladin leaves the party
04:28.31vodrinhmm, i see 25 soulstones on the same level
04:29.16vodrinas an insta port of tained core to lamp
04:29.17CIA-2203nymbia * r38054 10Quartz/Quartz.toc:
04:29.17CIA-22Quartz:
04:29.17CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
04:29.17vodrinlike, i'd agree that box should be removed
04:29.23KinkxDoes the tainted core thing still work? o_o
04:29.25vodrinboth*
04:29.30vodrinyep
04:29.36Kinkxlol, easy mode
04:29.40vodrin/script SetLootThreshold(0)
04:29.45vodringroup loot
04:29.50vodrintell raid to pass
04:29.54Cryecthaha
04:29.55vodrinhealer in the middle clicks need
04:30.02KinkxYea, thats stupid
04:30.08Cryectyeah thats dumb
04:30.33KinkxWell damn, stupid not to use it as well..
04:30.45vodrinthey will make tainted elementals drop tainted soulwells or something
04:30.46NightHawkTheSanenymbia: forkliftgnome?
04:30.46vodrin;)
04:31.06nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ForkliftGnome
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04:31.24tsigovodrin: I hadn't thought of a way to fix it but that's exactly what they need to do, just make it an object
04:31.30kebinusanhttp://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1180736099696.gif
04:31.48vodrinyep, just a one use soulwell
04:31.56vodrini doubt they could hotfix that on though
04:32.00CIA-2203nymbia * r38055 10Manufac/Manufac.toc:
04:32.00CIA-22Manufac:
04:32.00CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
04:32.09NimbleRabitI suppose it's probably worth it to get mining from 250->300 before I head to outlands for the first time?
04:32.14NightHawkTheSanenymbia: interesting.
04:32.28ckknightKebinusan: meh.
04:32.31CIA-2203nymbia * r38056 10Quartz/Quartz.toc:
04:32.31CIA-22Quartz:
04:32.31CIA-22- Missed one
04:33.10KinkxWhy must it be so easy to cheese encounters >_<
04:33.32vodrinthe tainted cores aren't 'that' hard
04:33.36CIA-2203nymbia * r38057 10Sniff/Sniff.toc:
04:33.36CIA-22Sniff:
04:33.36CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
04:33.46vodrinaslong as you have people with /use tainted core macro
04:34.00kebinusanblame the myopic view designers take when they make them and they dont get truly playtested by the kind of creative thinkers who would look for ways to take advantage of an encounter instead of play it the way its intended
04:34.04KinkxNah, they're not, but still.. you gonna save so much time to just put that shit on group loot
04:34.22vodrinit has a disadvantage though
04:34.24CIA-2203nymbia * r38058 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.toc:
04:34.24CIA-22SpellBinder:
04:34.24CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
04:34.26kebinusanand mostly because they get rushed out the door before they get properly playtested though
04:34.30vodrin1 disconnecter = wipe
04:34.40vodrinor a fun wait for loot timeout
04:34.40Kinkxah lol
04:34.45KinkxThats true :)
04:35.03ckknightnymbia: I like the API of ForkliftGnome
04:36.41CIA-2203nymbia * r38059 10StitchUI/StitchUI.toc:
04:36.41CIA-22StitchUI:
04:36.41CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
04:37.00nymbiackknight: ;)
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04:42.03CIA-2203nymbia * r38060 10ArenaPointer/ArenaPointer.toc:
04:42.03CIA-22ArenaPointer:
04:42.03CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
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04:44.22CIA-2203nymbia * r38061 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.toc:
04:44.22CIA-22GrindStatus:
04:44.22CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
04:44.57grennonoh, bulkmail2 came out during my modding hiatus
04:45.16grennonusing a tablet for display it looks like
04:45.52NightHawkTheSaneyeah, its pretty nice. blame hyperChipmunk for that
04:46.18CIA-2203nymbia * r38062 10Tattle/Tattle.toc:
04:46.18CIA-22Tattle:
04:46.18CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
04:46.41grennonbefore i stopped modding, using a tablet to display a bulkmail frame was an unimplemented feature for postal
04:47.14grennonim glad to see someone else made a tablet based mass mail gui
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04:48.40ulicit works pretty well too
04:48.54grennoni still like speedmailing :-)
04:49.21harldephini can use /cast to drink a potion ? wow..
04:50.15ZealotOnAStickdear god this is monotonous.
04:50.30NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
04:50.51ckknight<PROTECTED>
04:51.03NightHawkTheSanewell, as far as items are concerned
04:51.12NightHawkTheSanei dont think /use Frostbolt would work :P
04:51.53aen`it does
04:52.32NightHawkTheSanedoes it? *shrug* i could always be wrong
04:52.41aen`100% sure
04:52.44aen`/use spell works
04:53.07NightHawkTheSanewhat, like I read the framexml? psh
04:53.39aen`i thought nquestlog showed wowhead comments :(
04:55.35NightHawkTheSaneaen`: it can, but you need an addon like LikeHeaded to provide the data.
04:55.55harldephinerr..
04:55.55NightHawkTheSanes/LikeHeaded/LightHeaded/
04:55.55harldephinuhm.. never mind
04:55.56aen`i hate lightheaded
04:56.08ckknightaen`: why?
04:56.16NightHawkTheSaneaen`: well, there might be other addons that do the same thing, i just don't know of any.
04:56.42aen`wasnt there something like q-questcomments?
04:57.34harldephinqcomments?
05:02.15NightHawkTheSane"You done this [disarming a bomb] before?" "Once, at Hyde." "And?" "Well, I'm still here aren't i?"
05:05.52clad|napaen`: What do you hate about it?
05:07.21clad|sleepaen`: Anything specific, or just blind hatred? =)
05:08.24NimbleRabitis there any way to get my Aloft settings from one server to another
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05:08.32CIA-2203nymbia * r38063 10Manufac/Manufac.toc:
05:08.32CIA-22Manufac:
05:08.32CIA-22- Don't use crafting load condition, as we need to hook stuff before that event.
05:08.42boobies4uwhy am i getting some prat lib glory-2.0 spam in arathi basin but not in the other bg`s
05:08.45NightHawkTheSanei'm always a fan of blind hatred, it's kinda fun sometimes.
05:09.03clad|sleepNightHawkTheSane: Indeed, it typically provides good times for all
05:09.22clad|sleepI'm just not sure I _get_ this one.. Clique and PerfectRaid, sure there are reasons to hate both of them, just not sure what there is to hate about LH
05:10.25nymbiaclad|sleep: i dont like having quest information.  the idea of it makes me very angry.
05:10.44clad|sleepnymbia: don't download the mod ;-)
05:10.54NightHawkTheSaneand you don't want to make nymbia angry *nod*.
05:11.07NightHawkTheSanehe turns big and green, of course, as he's a gnome, it just makes him look like a green dwarf.
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05:11.20nymbiaclad|sleep: obviously you have to download and use stuff you hate.
05:13.26Kalman|clad: Presumably there's no way to allow http://www.wowhead.com/whatever links to point to the appropriate quest info, but if there is, that'd be kinda nice.
05:13.57clad|sleepKalman|: I could provide another lookup table, but it seems it would get very confusing bouncing from from quest to quest
05:14.09clad|sleepthe main issue is there is no unique quest identifier in game
05:14.27clad|sleepso ?quest=1234 gets whittled down to a quest title and level, which is far from unique.
05:14.51Kalman|Fair enough.  Was just a thought, I'm pretty happy with the mod as is.  :)
05:15.41clad|sleepjust finished a parse today to add start/end npc information, faction gain, and xp gain
05:16.04Kalman|Er.  When does that get uploaded, so I can go download it, because that's kinda awesome.
05:16.55clad|sleepshould be tomorow
05:17.03clad|sleepI felt rather sick tonight, thats why I went to bed/nap so early
05:17.17clad|sleepaen`: PING?
05:17.46nymbiaclad|sleep: i know i always save declaration of hatred of things until right before i'm going afk ;)
05:18.06clad|sleepit makes the recipient of said feedback very happy, so I'd have to say its a solid policy
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05:19.55ZealotOnAStickclad|sleep smells!
05:20.03clad|sleepthis is true
05:20.04clad|sleepespecially right now
05:20.12nymbiaclad|sleep makes terrible pancakes.
05:20.21clad|sleepnymbia: now this, is a slanderous lie.
05:20.26clad|sleepI make two things very well
05:20.27clad|sleeppancakes
05:20.36clad|sleepand sausage based spaghetti sauce.
05:20.41clad|sleepthey're both extremely good, and satisfying.
05:20.45nymbiaooh nice :D
05:20.51clad|sleepI used to make them at 3:00 am after the bar :P
05:20.57TecnoBratsausage based spaghetti sauce
05:20.57CIA-2203antiarc * r38064 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Added out-of-date notice.
05:20.58TecnoBratOMG
05:21.00TecnoBratI WANT
05:21.03TecnoBratNOW
05:21.08NightHawkTheSaneSo, uh, do we get to taste your sausage sauce? >.>
05:21.10Thorgard^2Great. Just great.
05:21.10NightHawkTheSane~flee
05:21.25purlACTION runs away screaming
05:21.26Thorgard^2Now I'm hungry.
05:21.34clad|sleepI use hot italian sausage, with just enough extra seasoning
05:22.01NightHawkTheSanegood deal
05:22.13NightHawkTheSanei haven't made sauce in ages. :(
05:22.33clad|sleepI've never slow cooked tit tho, its always a half hour sauce
05:22.40ckknighthehe, tit
05:22.40clad|sleepi bet it'd be great if I crock-potted it
05:23.01clad|sleeplol
05:23.04NightHawkTheSaneahh, slow cooking's always the way to go with sauce
05:23.28clad|sleepaye
05:23.29NightHawkTheSanealso, mmm.. slow cooked tit.
05:23.35clad|sleepword to that my friend
05:24.17CIA-2203nymbia * r38065 10Gladiator/Gladiator.toc:
05:24.17CIA-22Gladiator:
05:24.17CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
05:25.17ZealotOnAStickgaaaah.  Eyes are starting to blear.
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05:25.49NightHawkTheSaneplease tell me that's a typo for bleed, because that would be awesome, well except for the part where your eyes bleed, i mean, i guess that'd suck.
05:25.50ZealotOnAStick5 1/2 hours of committing sunfury genocide and manaforge b'naar . . .123 signets and all of 8 tomes.
05:26.02ZealotOnASticks/and/at/
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05:28.43clad|sleepCryect: http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=373068&postcount=30
05:29.12clad|sleepThats the major reasoning behind not including wowace as a mod distribution site, for a very specific reason, and I stand by it.  In case anyone was curious.
05:29.24clad|sleepJust saw Cryect posted the original question, just hope he answered it.
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05:31.39CIA-2203fenlis * r38066 10ArkInventory/Locale/koKR.lua:
05:31.39CIA-22ArkInventory:
05:31.39CIA-22- Added korean localization
05:33.05AntiarcI tend to agree with clad|sleep
05:33.11CIA-2203fenlis * r38067 10ArkInventory/ArkInventory.toc:
05:33.11CIA-22ArkInventory:
05:33.12CIA-22- Updated toc for korean locales
05:33.18AntiarcThere should be a "frontend" for "these are cool to use" mods or something for wowace
05:33.39AntiarcBecause synching files to svn gets you everything from ready to "nothing but directory structure"
05:33.44vid`my cat is a fucking pimp
05:33.44clad|sleepAntiarc: or they can be released to one of the mod sites, like the most of them are.
05:33.44vid`http://picasaweb.google.com/vid187lestat/Chris/photo#5071327706328768850
05:34.00clad|sleepvid`: lol your cat is rolling dirty =)
05:36.57NightHawkTheSaneclad|sleep: yeah, releasing to an established mod site is probably best, but some kind of front end for "ready for public release" addons would be nice to have. How many people go to files.wowace.com and aren't sure what's just commited an hour ago and what's a mature mod. Or worse, they assume everything is one or the other. But meh.
05:38.16clad|sleepNightHawkTheSane: Oh I agree, a tagging mechanism for Ace addons where they're properly released is absolutely the way to go
05:38.46clad|sleepBut the lack of which is what lead us to not count ace as one of the major mod sites, since there's no level of accountability at the moment, something that's bit everyone here in the ass more than once =)
05:38.58NightHawkTheSane*nod*
05:39.42Kalman|"Why is Grid broken?  Fuck, I have a raid in 5 minutes!" is one of those things that WAU makes possible.
05:40.04clad|sleephehe
05:40.17Kalman|Not that that ever happened to me.  /halo
05:40.21pastamancerI blame ckk
05:40.40clad|sleepI blame clad.. he's an asshole.
05:40.41ckknightand I blame nymbia
05:41.13NightHawkTheSaneI blame gnomes, oh wait, i guess that's nymbia.
05:41.28clad|sleepNightHawkTheSane: that is clearly the best policy
05:41.57clad|sleepI'm just sad that there were a number of mods released after the book was written I wish I could have covered.
05:42.01clad|sleepTomTom, LH, Pitbull, etc.
05:42.20nymbiaseriously freakin' nymbia
05:42.35nymbiabreaks everything
05:43.10NightHawkTheSaneclad|sleep: thats always a problem with printed media these days :\
05:43.46clad|sleepaye
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05:48.59chuckgThought you didn't write it clad!?
05:49.01chuckgLiar mouth.
05:49.06clad|sleepchuckg: lol
05:55.08CIA-2203nymbia * r38068 10ForkliftGnome/ (Conditions.lua ForkliftGnome.lua):
05:55.08CIA-22ForkliftGnome:
05:55.08CIA-22- Use a better setup for disabling temporary slash commands, could still use a bit of polish.
05:55.59boobies4uwhy am i getting some prat lib glory-2.0 spam in arathi basin but not in the other bg`s
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06:01.54Bam__nymbia: ping
06:02.25nymbiaBam__: pong
06:02.38Bam__nymbia: do you think ForkliftGnome could have a load option to load when a a function is called?
06:03.06Bam__that is, it should hook a function and load if that is called
06:03.15theoddone33would it be possible to make a bag/quest mod tiein that highlights any items needed for a quest in your bags when you select the quest in your log?
06:03.43Bam__somewhat similar to the load options for events
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06:04.16NimbleRabithow are the bags numbered?
06:04.21nymbiaBam__: i was thinking that, there was something that kept me from doing it at first, but i can't think of what it was.
06:04.31NightHawkTheSaneNimbleRabit: backpack is 0, then bags are 1-4 from right->left
06:05.06Bam__nymbia: it should probably be a secure hook
06:05.19NightHawkTheSaneNimbleRabit: also, curse you for having the same first two letters in your name as me, i have to type more to get tab-complete to get the right name ;)
06:05.28NimbleRabitlol
06:05.34nymbiaBam__: yeah
06:06.18Bam__nymbia: but preferably both hooks for global functions and methods... perhaps even frame scripts
06:06.25nymbiaBam__: right
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06:07.10Bam__if it blows up, you can always blame it on the Gnomes :P
06:07.17nymbiaindeed ;)
06:08.09ZealotOnAStickugh.  I think I may have to download automaton or auto-turnin or something just for one event.
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06:11.36NightHawkTheSane[siren sounds] "The law! Get Down!" [pause] ".. We are the law, ya bloody clowns!"
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06:19.02Bam__nymbia: just wondering.. if you use something like X-LoadOn-Combat, isn't there a danger of the game pausing at a critical moment?
06:20.54ckknightyep, theoretically.
06:22.30ckknightI think X-LoadOn-NonResting: true is better, imho
06:22.45Bam__ok
06:23.13Bam__like going outside of a town
06:25.36ckknightright
06:25.36ckknightwhich means you're likely gonna kill some shit.
06:30.07CIA-2203hegarol * r38069 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua Reputation/rep.lua):
06:30.07CIA-22AtlasLoot:
06:30.07CIA-22- Raid loot upgrade
06:30.07CIA-22- Loot improvements
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06:35.06HjalteYeah, i wonder the same..
06:35.35nymbiai think the guy posted that people could make modifications now
06:35.58ckknightah.
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06:38.06NightHawkTheSanehe did
06:38.25NightHawkTheSanethere's a thread on the forums he made sort of explaining
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06:39.09NightHawkTheSanethat probably should have been punctuated better.
06:39.12grennonso i take it threat needs everyone else running threat as well
06:39.45grennonsince gear/talents come into play with threat
06:39.46Bam__is that a threat? :D
06:39.49NightHawkTheSanegrennon: well i guess it does read KTM data now, but more or less, yes.
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06:40.41grennonthe comparison of threat using 850k same as KTM isnt fair though, KTM is a backend/frontend
06:40.50grennonthreat is just the backend
06:41.03grennonid rather use more mem than cpu thrash though
06:42.07grennonthe funny thing is, if you look at ktm >=18 is he basically has his own toolkit inside it
06:42.17grennonversus using a toolkit
06:42.48nymbiawhere'd this 850k come from?
06:42.57nymbiathat's including all the libraries or?
06:43.10grennonits in the opening post of http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12432
06:43.17grennonwhich a guild mate just linked me
06:43.47Kalman|Includes libs, nymbia.
06:43.51grennonand that does include libs, they estimated 100k without libs
06:45.38nymbiait'll be a bit heavier once all the boss-specific stuff's in
06:46.07nymbiabut i'm pretty sure most everyone who'll be using it is using ace libraries in other places, too ;)
06:47.52grennonlibraries are starting to become a pain, helping guildmates with lib issues
06:47.53ZealotOnAStickI have Ace2 standalone as well as everything else with embedded libs, and Omen doesn't even show in my top 20 for memory.
06:47.53grennonsometimes i long for an apt-get like mod installer that would resolve lib deps and install everything externally
06:47.53CyrezStandalones for the pwn.
06:47.56CyrezI use SVN and did it totally by hand but it's paid off.
06:48.11NightHawkTheSanegrennon: get every mod authors to use a standard x-* toc fields for libaries, and have an xml feed (or similar) that parses those toc fields and that's really really trivial.
06:48.12ZealotOnAStickI run SAL on this machine, but not my primary gaming rig.
06:48.48NightHawkTheSanealso, wow i fucked up plurality in that sentence.
06:48.48ZealotOnAStickPartially because my primary rig is a beastly box, and partially because I try to run anything there with embeds because that's the way most of the folks in my guild will, so if something goes wonky, I want to see it.
06:49.12grennonZealotOnAStick: i can see that
06:49.47ZealotOnAStickI wish more of them would take my advice and run Ace2 standalone, though.
06:49.56ZealotOnAStickDoing that has prevented nearly all lib conflict issues for me.
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06:52.46CyrezThis girl I WoW with uses an addon pack I built for her. At this point it's all standalone, and anytime she needs an update I just send her a batch file to delete the old stuff if need be and a self extracting executable.
06:53.37CyrezLast time she had a problem was shortly after patch time when I didn't have the chance to test it.
06:54.06CyrezBut as soon as I updated all the stuff and sent her a new one it worked fine. :)
06:54.30CyrezI was worried I'd missed a lib or something but it was just all the UI changes screwing stuff up.
06:54.50grennoni just need a feature for any threat based mod that underreports my fury dps so i can lie and say i wasnt near the threat ceiling when i get splattered
06:54.59grennonwhich was every boss tonight in karazahn
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06:58.33jmeso when you die in a bg and /afk while dead to get out, agUF thinks you're still dead until you reloadui
06:59.03Seda|try Pitbull
06:59.05grennoni run pitbull and havent looked back, even for the three days it was causing error 132s
06:59.15Seda|i had multiple errors iwth A_UF
06:59.19jmehmm, i'll check it out
06:59.20Seda|ag_uf*
06:59.48grennoni have to tell you, causing fatal errors in the game, some people think that bad, but just think of it like Neo being able to crash the matrix
06:59.51Seda|its got everything ag_uf has, minus the multiple outright errors
06:59.57jmedoes pitbull do the aggro coloring and such?
07:00.03Seda|everything and more
07:00.11ckknightand strippers!
07:00.13ckknightand blackjack!
07:00.14Seda|sec illg et the link
07:00.17jmeheh
07:00.24clad|sleepmm strippers
07:00.39grennonalright Bender
07:00.41ckknightI'm really not into strippers myself
07:00.49ckknightnot for me
07:01.04grennonbut ckknight, its in these dire times of high inflation that they need our money most
07:01.21clad|sleepits amusing to watch how other people react to strippers
07:01.25ckknightlol, the economy's booming
07:01.27clad|sleepcollege is good times for stuff like that =)
07:01.28ckknightthey'll be fine
07:01.49Seda|nm cant find it
07:01.57ckknightI just honestly have no attraction whatsoever to strippers or anyone who acts like that
07:02.11grennonso, im catching up on threat-1.0
07:02.24ckknightin all honesty, I like simple plain Janes
07:02.30ckknightif you know what I mean
07:02.36grennonif someone is running KTM, and it clears threat on say nightbane, does Threat-1.0 clear nightbanes threat table?
07:02.37clad|sleepckknight: i agree, 100%
07:02.46grennonis that part of the data sync working?
07:03.00clad|sleeponly for both men, and women, heh
07:03.04ckknightI mean, fuck, I don't want to wake up every morning as the ugly one in the relationship
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07:03.16clad|sleepckknight: some strippers are absolutely nasty tho
07:03.19ckknightclad|sleep: well, not like it doesn't apply both ways
07:03.24Kalman|s/some/most
07:03.25clad|sleepno, it absolutely does
07:03.40clad|sleepfishing.. sucks.. 351
07:03.43clad|sleeponly.. 3 hours to go =(
07:03.49ckknightlol
07:04.22Seda|http://wowace.com/wiki/PitBull
07:04.28jmei finally hit 350 LW :/
07:04.43clad|sleepeven tailoring was better tha this
07:04.43clad|sleepheh
07:05.24Kalman|7 imbued netherweave tunics from 374->375 says you're wrong.  :/
07:05.29clad|sleeplol
07:05.31Seda|is RatingBuster working?
07:05.31grennonnever be the first guy in your guild to get high level fishing
07:05.34clad|sleepi didn't have that luck
07:05.38grennonbecause you become the crawdad bitch
07:05.42ckknightlol
07:05.43clad|sleeplol
07:05.46clad|sleeptell em to fuck off.
07:05.51clad|sleepand fish motes of water
07:05.52clad|sleepand make money
07:05.56CIA-2203roartindon * r38070 10Assessment/Modules/ (UserInterface.lua UserInterfaceOptions.lua): Assessment: Redid border style option so it's localizable. Added Square option. Changed how borders are set.
07:05.57ckknightdude, hook me up with some crawdads
07:06.00grennonmake that crawdad extra spicy bitch!
07:06.07nymbialol
07:06.45Seda|ace mod that puts the % of rating  #?
07:06.52Kalman|clad|sleep: This was my second 375 tailor.  First one I lucked out, got the arcanoweave boots recipe, used that.
07:07.04clad|sleephehe
07:07.09clad|sleepyeah i have both arcanoweave
07:07.10clad|sleepit helped
07:07.46grennonratings converters are old and busted
07:07.55Seda|ah
07:07.56grennonloading custom scales for tooltips is the new hotness
07:08.11grennoneveryone should know by now how much agi is a point of crit, right?
07:08.24Seda|resilliance
07:08.33grennonI just havent found a mod that does scales aside from Pawn yet
07:08.45grennonand Pawn reinvents the wheel with a small toolkit library
07:09.26grennonbut i pretty much gave up using spreadsheets to evaluate items after i loaded up Pawn with a few different scales
07:09.37grennonspreadsheets + ratingbuster
07:09.53Kalman|I use spreadsheets to generate Pawn scales, personally.
07:10.19grennonspreadsheets tend to deal with perfect cycles though
07:10.54grennonthe warrior fury spreadsheet has a pawn scale but it breaks down without the right buffs and with imperfect cycles
07:10.54jmehmm, in elkbuffbars (the beta version) there's no way to get the grab bar back to move it around
07:11.04Kalman|Well, warriors are harder to model b/c of rage/cooldown interactions.
07:11.06jmeif you make it go away
07:11.15Kalman|Rogue sheets and mage sheets tend to be quite accurate.
07:11.15theoddone33wow mass dispell dispells stealth
07:11.20theoddone33.... that's not cool
07:11.32grennonwhereas as the scale i passed around based around the DEP value gives better values since it does high dps with imperfect cycles
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07:12.11grennonhe rates str and crit equivalently in the fury spreadsheet, but hes dealing with perfect cycles where hamstring procs flurry/windfury
07:12.21grennonin imperfect cycles, str takes over as the prime stat
07:13.02CIA-2203tsigo * r38071 10Cutup/modules/Julienne.lua: Cutup_Julienne: Fix some display issues and errors.
07:13.05Kalman|I know next to nothing about fury DPS details, so I'll take it on faith, but unless there's enough motion in a fight to be like the Emps, rogue cycles don't actually change enough to make a difference.
07:13.14Kalman|And mages don't so much have cycles as "which button do I spam?"
07:13.50Kalman|Spreadsheets need to be taken with a grain of salt, but they're still useful.
07:14.18grennonspreadsheets are good for modeling
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07:17.00HjalteWith Threat supporting input from KTM, i guess it will be wrong in eg boss fights with adds?
07:17.14HjalteWhen it receives threat from ktm
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07:17.56ckknightHjalte: how so?
07:18.08CIA-2203nymbia * r38072 10ForkliftGnome/Quips.lua:
07:18.08CIA-22ForkliftGnome:
07:18.09CIA-22- Add some pretty bad quips
07:18.30Bam__are there any profiler addons out there taking advantage of the new API functions?
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07:18.47grennonmore importantly, can the raid lead set everyones threat-1.0 to ignore ktm data?
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07:18.57grennonhrmmm
07:19.22HjalteWell, i just experienced it on the second boss in Botanica - The mage aoed the adds, and even when i targeted the boss, his threat was still much higher than mine - and i'm thinking it must be because of the aoe he did to the adds?
07:20.42HjalteI'm using Omen, which is displaying the target threat, so i shouldnt be seeing the threat the mage got from aoeing the adds, when i target the boss. But i did, because he is using ktm, thats what i believe at least.
07:20.47nymbiayeah, cuz KTM
07:20.51nymbiadoesnt differenciate
07:20.57nymbiaunless there's a master target set or whatever
07:23.49CIA-2203nymbia * r38073 10Fence/Fence.toc:
07:23.49CIA-22Fence:
07:23.49CIA-22- Add ForkliftGnome load conditions to toc.
07:25.45Laric[Ammo] are you here?
07:27.39CIA-2203tsigo * r38074 10Cutup/modules/Julienne.lua: Cutup_Julienne: Alway display timer text until SnD has actually run out.
07:28.25CIA-2203roartindon * r38075 10Assessment/Modules/UserInterface.lua: Assessment: Ugh.. recycled some tables that weren't meant to be...
07:29.05Fisker-can you use something like imagemagick to resize all .png images you have in a folder?
07:29.08Lyfeso, omen and ktm will talk to each other?
07:29.24Diaooh yeah
07:29.38Neeblerdoes your guild ever draw on doodle, Nymbia?
07:29.42Neeblerbecause I use it like.. daily :P
07:29.44Lyfenice.
07:29.46Diaonymbia yesterday i went to pvp and when i moused over a player from aman'thul it gave me some error about server not existing for tattle or gladiator
07:29.56nymbiaNeebler: yeah, our raid leader's addicted to it ;)
07:30.04Diaoforgot which :x
07:30.25Neeblercoloring in things is a bitch to do. Need an option for a bigger pen size
07:30.46Diaoa "fill" option like photoshop! :P
07:30.52nymbiaDiao: hrm, probably related to the apostrophe somehow
07:31.45nymbiaNeebler: yeah.. actually the comms and everything support bigger pen sizes, but the display gets buggy on some scale/resolution combinations
07:32.17Neeblerhmm then perhaps have set options for scale sizes? perhaps intervals of 15?
07:32.27nymbiayeah
07:32.45NimbleRabitAntiarc: what am I doing wrong with this filter: name:!"Soul Shard"
07:32.47boobies4usymbian
07:32.58boobies4unymbia, who in here works on Prat?
07:33.01Diaoi'll head into pvp again
07:33.08Diaoand try to find an aman'thul player
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07:33.39boobies4umy Prat gives me error spam in arathi basin :-(
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07:34.29Neebleroh and since I'm talking to you now, I may as well make a small request regarding doodle. Could you show whose currently drawing, a small text name next to the title perhaps
07:34.29boobies4ui need helpz0r
07:34.49Kirkburnboobies4u, saying what type of error :P
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07:35.10boobies4uKirkburn, it spits Prat lib Glory-2.0  stuff everytime there is "activity" in the chat frame
07:35.41boobies4uonly happends in AB, never in any of the other battlegrounds
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07:37.39Laricvharr you here then?
07:38.16todd`lolnetsplit
07:39.10boobies4uKirkburn, have had that error for many updates now, i use WAU tool to update addons
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07:39.50boobies4umust be that glory 2.0 lib that fucks up
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07:39.50wobinAntiarc: 007/06/02 17:38:55-2608-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Pet.lua:197: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'threat' (a nil value)
07:39.51nymbiaboobies4u: uhh
07:39.51nymbia~seen sylvanaar
07:41.23purlsylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 13h 7m 45s ago, saying: 'does that make sense to anyone?'.
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07:41.26boobies4u~seen sylvanaar
07:42.26purlsylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 13h 8m 48s ago, saying: 'does that make sense to anyone?'.
07:42.26boobies4ui always think about that butplug when i see your nick nymbia
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07:42.31CIA-2203tsigo * r38076 10Cutup/modules/Julienne.lua: Cutup_Julienne: Show potential time text when not currently running.
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07:44.54boobies4ugonna join an av and write the exact error note
07:45.05Adirellevhaarr: I'm thinking of adding the concpet of "user data source level" in Violation, to handle data coming from several sources (local combatlog, damagemeters, remote violation, ...)
07:45.33boobies4unice, computer science talk
07:46.04Adirellevhaarr: I'm close to having DamageMeters monitoring working, but its data will add to local combatlog data :/
07:46.18vhaarrAdirelle: I don't fully understand.
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07:46.51Adirellewell, that's simple : what happend when I feed module data from both DamageMeters and cmobatlog parsing at the same time ?
07:47.42Dynomwell it's reading aint it
07:48.12Adirelleanswer : damage done are added twice...
07:48.28AdirelleI have to find a have to prevent parsing combat log when data is received through DamageMeter
07:48.55Laricvharr: violation have a sync problem that is coming from [Ammo]'s commit #37806. Perhaps you should take a look at it. It breaks sync if everyone is running a version newere than 37805
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07:49.24Adirellesame when I receive data from remote Violation : it has to stop listening to DM and local combat log
07:49.35vhaarrright
07:49.41boobies4uInterface/AddOns/Prat_Libs/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:2350 Attempts to index local "s" a number value
07:49.55boobies4uwhat does this meen? i get this spam when im in AB using prat, when there is activity in the chat frame
07:50.04CIA-2203roartindon * r38077 10Assessment/Modules/UserInterface.lua: Assessment: Changed the code relating to bar scroll offset, hiding bars, minor changes
07:50.11Dynomit means something is broken
07:51.17boobies4uiv had this spam in ab for several versions now
07:51.21boobies4uand i need Prat :-(
07:51.37Adirelleso I would like to replace the boolean :UserViolation thing by something more scalar => data source level
07:52.11Adirellesay : local combat log for remote user => 0, damagemeter => 5, remote violation => 10
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07:52.53Adirelleeach time data is received from an higher level source, the data level goes up, and violation stop listening to lower data sources
07:53.22LePeR|Jauniadoes damagermeter sync with violation now?
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07:54.35AdirelleLePeR|Jaunia: no, Violation reads DM data, but doesn't send anything (and will never do)
07:54.52LePeR|Jauniaoh ok gotcha
07:55.10LePeR|Jauniasorta like the ktm / omen situation
07:55.26boobies4uand the Prat situation
07:55.31boobies4uwith the glory-lib
07:55.32boobies4u:-)
07:55.50LePeR|Jauniaprat likes me i think.. no errors for awhile now
07:55.58boobies4ui get error in ab
07:56.02boobies4uInterface/AddOns/Prat_Libs/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:2350 Attempts to index local "s" a number value
07:56.05boobies4u:-(
07:56.15boobies4uspams non stop when there is activity in the chat window
07:56.30boobies4udoesent matter what message there is, as long as there is activity
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07:57.39AdirelleLePeR|Jaunia: right
07:57.42boobies4uso i need to disable prat completely everytime i go arathi basin
07:59.04vhaarrAdirelle: I just woke up, I need breakfast, shower, etc.
07:59.04LePeR|Jauniahehe if only my guild uses DM
07:59.07vhaarrYour idea makes no sense.
07:59.10LePeR|Jauniaused*
07:59.27Adirellehehe
07:59.27Adirelleokay, I'll try to sum it up on the forum
08:02.48boobies4unoone who could aid me with my prat error?
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08:02.54FISKER_Qso vhaarr i heard you like updating rabbit.nihilum.eu/nrt?
08:03.06vhaarrFISKER_Q: false
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08:03.26vhaarrwant to update for me?
08:03.32vhaarrlike 40 addons still need pages
08:03.35vhaarrmake them please
08:03.38FISKER_Q:<
08:07.03CIA-2203damjau * r38078 10WhoDrop/ (4 files): WhoDrop - fix miss typo, fix AutoSearching func, add Force show tooltip func
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08:08.48CIA-2203damjau * r38079 10WhoDrop/WhoDrop.toc: WhoDrop - sorry, fix mistake toc external path
08:09.47Diaoah
08:09.48Diaofinally got it
08:09.55Diaonymbia: http://ace.pastey.net/48473
08:10.19[Ammo]morning
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08:10.36Diaoalso for ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/48474
08:11.52Adirellevhaarr: hoping this is more clear : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4843.msg107290#msg107290
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08:13.29CIA-2203antiarc * r38080 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: Mangle => Mangle (Bear)
08:13.57Laric[Ammo] lo... think you need to revert your commit 37806 on violation. it breaks sync totally (atleast damage done) if everyone runs that one or a newer version.
08:14.34evlIf I want to move stuff like CastingBarFrame, when do I know it's available for moving? I tried PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD but i think that's too early
08:14.44[Ammo]Laric: I don't need to do that
08:14.47[Ammo]I need to fix it slightly
08:14.49[Ammo]will do that now
08:14.57Laric[Ammo] ok :P
08:15.15HjalteAnyone on Kazzak-EU here? I can't connect to the server atm.
08:15.36evlHjalte: i am and it's up
08:17.31todd`so I'm convinced it's an addon (or multiple) that makes wow crash for me when I log on
08:17.32[Ammo]the problem is, some module sends nil data for broadcasting
08:17.33todd`I can disable them all, log in a ton of times, no crash
08:17.33[Ammo]or something
08:17.41todd`enable them all, 4 out of 5 times I crash
08:17.43[Ammo]which gives the numbers in the sync report
08:17.56todd`wish I could find out easily which one(s) though
08:18.25[Ammo]those numbers I tried to prevent
08:18.28[Ammo]with my commit
08:18.57AntiarcAnyone know if rage gains from Primal Fury cause threat like normal rage gains? KTM doesn't seem to think so
08:19.41CIA-2203roartindon * r38081 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/BattlegroundFu.lua: FuBar_BattlegroundFu: Added overrideMenu = true to stop duplicate fubar menu items showing
08:20.09evllist
08:20.09wobinAntiarc: Threat-1.0-38041 (Threat-1.0):205: assertion failed!
08:20.10wobinThreat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:401: in function `?'
08:20.10wobinParser-3.0-37663 (Parser-3.0):3384: in function <...nterface\AddOns\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0\Parser-3.0.lua:3383>
08:20.10wobin<in C code>: ?
08:20.24wobinThat's from being attacked while mounted and then stunned off the mount
08:21.13Adirelleerr... what's that "for i=1,n do --[[ something ]] ; i = i + 1; if i>n then break end; end" ???????
08:21.22Adirellewhy not using "for i=1,n,2 do" ?
08:21.43Adirelle(Violation.lua around line 1863)
08:22.21CIA-2203ammo * r38082 10Violation/ (Threat/TargetThreat.lua Threat/Threat.lua Violation.lua): Violation: Fix broadcast problems
08:22.50[Ammo]Adirelle: because we need the i + 1 anyway I dunno
08:22.54[Ammo]I didn't write that part
08:23.06Adirelle[Ammo]: any thought on http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4843.msg107290#msg107290 ?
08:23.18CIA-2203rophy * r38083 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua:
08:23.18CIA-22ParserLib-1.1:
08:23.19CIA-22- AURADISPELSELF2 : the last %s in "Your %s is removed by %s." should be source, not sourceSkill, same to AURADISPELOTHER2.
08:23.43[Ammo]Adirelle: I agree, and the fix should be done in the UserViolation() function
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08:24.10[Ammo]I can add it quickly if you want :)
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08:24.49ZealotOnAStickOh yay.
08:24.50Antiarcwobin: Thanks for the info. I'll test it.
08:25.01ZealotOnAStickOnce I go turn in this Arcane Tome, will be exalted.
08:25.09KeiasCongrats
08:25.11AntiarcAnyone know off-hand the mechanics for Lifebloom threat?
08:25.11ZealotOnAStickand I can stop this self-torture.
08:25.22CIA-2203rophy * r38084 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua:
08:25.22CIA-22Parser-3.0:
08:25.22CIA-22- Fix AURADISPELSELF2 and AURADISPELOTHER2.
08:25.27Duanetjeuhm can any1 help me with finding an interface addon for WoW ?
08:25.45ZealotOnAStickmaybe.  What are you looking for?
08:25.49Duanetjehttp://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=64636_RogueWithHat_122_510lo.jpg
08:26.06AntiarcZealotOnAStick: Do the ticks cause threat? Combat log format would indicate that they don't, but I dunno
08:27.13KeiasThat's a lot of different addons Duanetje :P
08:27.13Duanetjei'm looking for the complete interface restyle thingy
08:27.13ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: was responding to Duanetje
08:27.13Adirelle[Ammo] I'll do, but I'm wondering how which numbers I'll add for levels, I was thinking of 0 = combat log, 5 = DM, 10 = Violation
08:27.13KeiasDuanetje: the thing that skins even the NPC windows?
08:27.13Adirelles/how //
08:27.13boobies4uZealotOnAStick, who takes care of Prat?
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08:27.14AdirelleI'm also wondering if I should add "constants" for it
08:27.15ZealotOnASticksylvaanar mostly.  Or maybe it's sylvanaar.  Something like that.
08:27.17[Ammo]Adirelle: I've got it fixed already :p
08:27.18Duanetjeyes Keias it all looks so moderny flashy blackish , that's waht i'm looking for :)
08:27.24Keiascheck out Skinner
08:27.25[Ammo]commit in 2 mins
08:27.44Adirelleokay
08:27.48ZealotOnAStickYou know, I've seen something about that in a thread in the Community board, but I've yet to see precisely what skins everything with the Litestep style there.
08:27.58AdirelleI'll work on reporting sync user to tablet...
08:28.35Adirellebtw I'm wondering if I shouldn't make this a module, that would allow to use all the existing displaying stuff :p
08:29.25CIA-2203rophy * r38085 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua:
08:29.25CIA-22Parser-3.0:
08:29.26CIA-22- Remove wrongly pasted string.
08:30.13Diaolifebloom ticks should cause same threat as a normal hot shouldn't they
08:30.52Duanetjeso noone can precisely say what interface addon that is ?
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08:31.12KeiasDuanetje: Skinner
08:31.34Duanetjewell i was lookin' for that but still can't seem to find it :/
08:31.41Diaothat's not litestep
08:31.45Diaoit's uhh
08:31.50Diaostarts with a g
08:31.51wobinAntiarc: I'm still trying to figure out the sequence that causes the pet not to show up on the meter
08:31.52Diaoi forgot what it is
08:32.03[Ammo]Adirelle: fixed it with a minimal fix, although I check for "Damage" hardcoded for damagemeters now since I don't want to move that check to the OnDamageMeters comm.
08:32.16[Ammo]checking if it doesn't error
08:32.33KeiasDuanetje: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Skinner
08:32.45Adirelle[Ammo] didn't fully understand, waiting for the commit
08:33.07KeiasAnd if others are talking about the texture in those unitframes, I'm pretty sure it's glaze
08:33.11Keiasor gloss
08:33.14KeiasI get the two confused :(
08:33.27Diaoyeah glaze
08:33.37evlwhy the hell doesn't CastingBarFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOM", UIParent, "BOTTOM", 0, 150) work
08:33.43[Ammo]Adirelle: I fixed it the simplest way :p
08:33.55Duanetje& that bar at the top is also skinner ?
08:34.12Adirelle[Ammo]: I'm just hoping it may simply support adding of other spying module (like SW_Stat)s
08:34.31Adirelleor handle Threat native/KTM case
08:34.40Diaoer
08:34.44Diaothe rep bar
08:34.48Diaois probably reputationfu
08:34.52Diaowith fubar
08:35.04Diaoand then skinner creating a viewport and using topbar
08:35.08Diaofor the gradient effect
08:35.23[Ammo]Adirelle: threat is done by threat-1.0
08:35.33[Ammo]doesn't matter if it's KTM or threat-1.0
08:35.34Duanetjetx alot for the help :)
08:36.15Adirelle[Ammo]: yep, but Antiarc's done something pretty clever in Omen : Threat can determine if data comes from another Threat or KTM
08:36.42Adirelleand Omen display an '*' near the character name when it comes from KTM, meaning "maybe inaccurate data"
08:37.17ZealotOnAStickArr.
08:37.28ZealotOnAStickLongest single farming session I've ever done in one session.
08:37.38ZealotOnASticksee, I'm not even making sense with words now.
08:37.51ZealotOnAStickover 8 1/2 hours.  But I'm done.  Yayz.
08:37.51boobies4uwhat did you farm
08:37.52Adirellethat's the whole point of the Threat:IsUsingForeignThreatSource()
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08:37.55[Ammo]Adirelle: doesn't matter right now
08:38.03boobies4uprimals?
08:38.11Adirelle[Ammo] I would like to add similar thing to Violation
08:38.11ZealotOnAStick16 arcane tomes and 208 sunfury signets.
08:38.20[Ammo]can be done easily in the display
08:38.22boobies4uni hao
08:38.34ZealotOnAStickto get the 10.7k faction I needed to finish getting exalted, so I could get "free" flasks.
08:39.33NightHawkTheSane"free" flasks?
08:39.35AdirelleWill "name, value = select(i, ...)" do what I think it should ? e.g. put ...[i] and ...[i+1} into name,value ?
08:40.59Adirellenvm, found myself
08:41.01ZealotOnAStickShattrath Flasks.
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08:41.36ZealotOnAStickMarks of Illidari drop in SSC and TK (which is where we're raiding) and you can turn them in 1 for 1 for flasks that work in SSC, TK, Hyjal, and Black Temple.
08:41.54ZealotOnAStickProving that you're exalted with Sha'tar, Cenarion, and Aldor/Scryer per your choice.
08:41.59CIA-2203roartindon * r38086 10Assessment/Extras/AssessmentFu.lua: Assessment: The FuBar text display is now a tag too. This enables damage, dps, tps, hps, whatever to be shown on FuBar.
08:42.02ZealotOnASticks/Proving/Providing/
08:42.12Diaoisn't sha'tar or cenarion easier
08:42.15Diaolol
08:42.15NightHawkTheSaneahh, neat
08:42.20ZealotOnAStickNo.
08:42.23ZealotOnAStick3 factions.
08:42.26FISKER_QThey're all easy
08:42.28Diaoohh
08:42.33ZealotOnAStickCenarion, AND Sha'tar, and one of either Aldor or Scryer.
08:42.34Diaohave to do all three not just one?
08:42.38Diaoah k
08:42.45ZealotOnAStickCenarion and Sha'tar I got long ago with Heroics.
08:42.55DuanetjeDiao i can't find that glaze seperatly :x
08:42.59Diaoyou need sharedmedialib
08:43.08FISKER_Qno
08:43.10FISKER_Qhe needs sharedmedia
08:43.16ZealotOnAStickScryer I just didn't have a real reason to yet.
08:43.28ZealotOnAStickUntil I get T5 shoulders, I wasn't worried about the enchant.
08:43.57ZealotOnAStickNot having to farm herbs on my druid and buy black lotus . . . now, that's a worthy reason.
08:44.52AntiarcAnyone know if power gain threat is  modified?
08:45.01Antiarcie, I'm in bear form and proc Primal Fury for 5 rage
08:45.06AntiarcThat's 25 unmodified threat
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08:45.20AntiarcKTM adds 25 threat, but Omen is adding 36.25%, which is the 25 * the 1.45 bear modifier
08:45.30Antiarcerr, 36.25, not 36.25%
08:45.31NightHawkTheSaneI don't -think- power gain threat is modified
08:45.45NightHawkTheSaneat least i'm reasonably certain blood rage threat isn't modified by stance.
08:46.18CIA-2203ammo * r38087 10Violation/Violation.lua:
08:46.18CIA-22Violation: add levels to the violationUsers table and adjust UserViolation call
08:46.18CIA-22to accept an option third argument for level check. Modules need no change for
08:46.18CIA-22this. Level implemented for Violation broaddcast, DMM broadcast and no level
08:46.18CIA-22will ever have to be set for combatlog, it's implicitly 0
08:47.27AntiarcBloodrage at 10 rage should be 50 threat. Times the 80% modifier for battle stance should be 40 threat. If I pull aggro at 44 damage off of a warrior who bloodraged, I can assume that threat is modified. Else, if I pull it at 55 damage, it is unmodified
08:48.10NightHawkTheSaneYeah. Although bloodrage generates a total of 20 rage
08:48.23NightHawkTheSane10 + 1/s over 10s
08:48.47Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: Maybe not the powergain, but you don't really know the true mechanics of the ability
08:48.57CIA-2203ammo * r38088 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: make sure to set the level for damagemeter users
08:49.09Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: Most of the threat you gain is when you use it, not when you are gaining rage
08:49.46NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: well yeah, as that's half of the overal rage gain, so it's going to be the significant portion of the threat as well.
08:50.04AntiarcAh, that's right.
08:50.13vhaarrAdirelle: Yeah, the flag stuff looks good.
08:50.23AntiarcIt's easily testable, and I'm on my way to test it :D
08:50.26Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: You don't know that
08:50.43Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: Nowhere does it say, as you gain rage from this ability you also increase your threat
08:50.58Diaoor
08:51.00AntiarcPunkie`: Power gains cause threat
08:51.01Diaoyou can bloodrage
08:51.06Diaoand then right click the bloodrage buff
08:51.13Diaoto prevent additional rage gain
08:51.22NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: if you're going to be pedantic, no, i don't know that, i don't know how any ability in the game -actually- works under the hood. only what i can observe.
08:51.26Diaohowever
08:51.29Diaoone issue with that is
08:51.34Diaoyou still gain rage from taking hits from the mob
08:51.44AntiarcThat's not a power gain
08:51.51AntiarcIt's handled differently
08:51.56Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: Indeed, I know powergains cause threat, but the initial use of the ability will be affected by stance
08:52.03Punkie`The powergains maybe not
08:52.36AntiarcI'm just going to go test it then we can stop arguing :P
08:52.46nevcairielthe initial use is a powergain as well .. :)
08:52.50nevcairieljust a bigger one
08:52.51CIA-2203ammo * r38089 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: reduce some code duplication
08:53.24Adirellevhaarr: [Ammo] is on it, I'll finalize
08:53.29[Ammo]it's done
08:53.37[Ammo]no need to change all the OnRemoteData's now
08:55.03FISKER_Q[Ammo] i got ideas!
08:55.17FISKER_QScrolling support on the type-switcher or whatever it is :o
09:00.15CIA-2203ammo * r38090 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Check against your own level now instead of one higher. with UserViolation
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09:03.24wobinAntiarc: I think it happens when the pet gets dismissed
09:03.28wobindue to distance or the command
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09:07.33Adirelle[Ammo] argh, getting lots of conflict, seems we work on the same piece of code
09:07.47CIA-2203antiarc * r38091 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:
09:07.47CIA-22Threat-1.0: Changed power gain threat to be unmodified stance. I tested rage by
09:07.47CIA-22bloodraging in Battle Stance, got off two ticks for 12 rage = 60 threat. I had a
09:07.47CIA-22mage melee the mob, and they pulled aggro at 66 damage = 5 * 12 * 1.1.
09:08.50Adirelle[Ammo] I'll paste you a diff of what I've in mind
09:08.54harldephinis there a way to /use a potion from a list of potions on some kind of "first exist, first use" basis ?
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09:10.35Diaonope harldephin
09:10.49AntiarcSure there is
09:10.52Diaowell you could write a macro that did /use item, item, item, item
09:10.57Diaoor whatever
09:10.59AntiarcYup
09:11.01Diaoand it would jsut go down the list
09:11.09AntiarcI do that with health pots
09:11.59Diaoautobar doesn't switch pots in combat :(
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09:13.36Mikkg'moanin
09:13.44NightHawkTheSaneautorack ftw.
09:14.26[Ammo]Adirelle: check the file in svn currently, not much changed on the DMM part etc, just moved a function call and added an ifcheck, that's all that was needed.
09:14.40[Ammo]it fixes the issue from your post
09:14.49Adirelle[Ammo] I'm checking along
09:14.59harldephinbut it doesn't to that for me, i've tried some times now. do i have to simplify or enclose the individual potions' (localised) designations or something ?
09:15.35harldephinto=do
09:16.17Diaowhat doesn't?
09:16.46harldephin/use potions1, potion2, potion3 ..
09:16.49harldephin-s
09:16.51harldephinthat one
09:17.18Diaoi think it's /use potion /use potion /use potion etc
09:17.37Dottedhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/lolcode.jpg
09:17.54Silviu-http://download.onlinewelten.com/Bilder/WoW_Emilyspear.jpg
09:19.09Silviu-60k gold ?
09:19.15Dottedeh you cant be exalted with ravenholdt can you?
09:19.16Silviu-Exalted at all ?
09:19.28Dottednot syndicate :p
09:19.48todd`http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-reputation.xml?r=Sylvanas&n=Emilyspear
09:19.51Dottedor bloodsail bucaneers
09:19.55todd`there's the rep sheet for that character
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09:21.21Adirelle[Ammo] I was thinking of http://ace.pastey.net/48519 but I think their a better approach (and there are some typo too)
09:21.55Adirelle[Ammo] btw, forget about lines 330-340, that's another thing
09:22.00[Ammo]you changes in the modules are not needed
09:22.09[Ammo]just change the sync stuff in your DMM and keep my UserViolation stuff in there
09:22.11[Ammo]and you're done
09:22.59[Ammo]basically all you have to do is change your OnDamageMetersComm
09:23.11[Ammo]you're taking the long route with your code
09:24.16Adirelleyep, that what I thought afterward
09:24.44[Ammo]I already changed teh current ondamagemeterscomm
09:24.48AdirelleBut i would keep the UpdateUserViolation instead of SetUserViolation
09:24.55[Ammo]it's not update
09:24.57[Ammo]it's Set
09:25.04[Ammo]it doesn't check anything it just sets it.
09:25.21[Ammo]but shrug, do as you please as long as the logic remains the same
09:25.28Adirellewell... in my code it check and only sets if it is higher
09:25.43Adirelleand return true if the level is at least the same
09:25.51[Ammo]it should not return true
09:25.54[Ammo]should be >
09:25.56[Ammo]keep my code please
09:26.10AdirelleI use it to both check and set when needed
09:26.38Adirelledoing two calls leads to checking the table structure twice...
09:27.00[Ammo]you should not use a set function to check as well
09:27.05[Ammo]bad form.
09:27.08[Ammo]keep my code
09:27.20Adirelleas you like
09:29.11Fisker-i will die you!1
09:31.05[Ammo]the session stuff etc looks good
09:31.13[Ammo]anyway, time for some garden work
09:33.13Mikk[Ammo]: Mind if I put in some shortened window titles to display when the window is too narrow?  "Damage per second" -> "DPS" etc
09:33.46Adirelle[ (Am
09:33.57Adirelle[Ammo]: I think I'll commit that : http://ace.pastey.net/48532
09:35.27Mikkoh nvm i see it's in already
09:40.01CIA-2203schelli * r38092 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/ (FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua FuBar_PotHerbFu.toc): FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua : fixed recipe import problem, changed toc
09:41.07[Ammo]Adirelle: go ahead
09:41.10[Ammo]Mikk: hmm?
09:41.14[Ammo]I did not put that in
09:41.22[Ammo]so dunno if anyone did :)
09:41.23Mikkthe shortened names are in
09:41.27Mikkbut they're not displayed
09:41.31CIA-2203schelli * r38093 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/FuBar_DebuggerFu.toc: FuBar_DebuggerFu.toc : updated toc
09:41.35[Ammo]they're used in fubar text
09:41.44[Ammo]but feel free to tinker with it yah
09:42.05CIA-2203schelli * r38094 10FuBar_MCPFu/FuBar_MCPFu.toc: FuBar_MCPFu.toc : updated toc
09:43.08[Ammo]Adirelle: only problem I can think of is you regexp for the DMM command
09:43.23[Ammo]isn't ^(.*)_(%d+)_ better? as a start of that string
09:43.30[Ammo]unless %w can contain _
09:43.44Adirelle%w can contain _
09:43.52[Ammo]okiedokie
09:44.07[Ammo]then I hope no minimal matching is done :)
09:44.13Mikk"%w" basically matches variable names
09:44.22Mikkexcept variables can't start with numbers but .. blah
09:44.29[Ammo]hehe
09:44.35[Ammo]back to the garden I go, wife yelling :)(
09:44.46CIA-2203adirelle * r38095 10Violation/Violation.lua:
09:44.46CIA-22Violation: DamageMeters spying:
09:44.46CIA-22- added session spying,
09:44.46CIA-22- now Violation uses successive messages to guess relative amounts,
09:44.46CIA-22- two previous changes makes Violation independent from DamageMeters resets.
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09:45.12CIA-2203antiarc * r38096 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua: Threat-1.0: Added some data collected on paladin buff threat values. Blessings and Seals seem to cause a small amount of threat, but it's enough that we don't need to worry about it for now.
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09:51.24Silviu-Antiarc, Paladin.lua:45 typo
09:51.52AntiarcThanks
09:51.58Silviu-No probl :P
09:52.08CIA-2203antiarc * r38097 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua: Threat-1.0: Added missing commas.
09:54.03ckknightzomg, teh commaz!
09:54.17deltrondon't you guys sleep? :D
09:54.27Antiarctry not to on the weekend :P
09:54.38deltronlol
09:54.40ckknightI'm watching Oz S5
09:54.54deltronexcellent series
09:55.09ckknightyea
09:55.12deltronthat's the last season isn't it?
09:55.27ckknightno, S6
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09:56.06deltronbeen a long while since I've seen it
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09:57.50AntiarcSomeone take a look at paladin.lua line 45 and tell me what I'm missing.
09:57.52Fisker-watch out Antiarc
09:57.55Fisker-Kenco had a "brainstorm"
09:57.57AntiarcBecause I must be too tired to see it.
09:58.13AntiarcFisker-: Not worried. If he improves KTM, it just means a better product for the community :)
09:58.28AntiarcPlus, ThreatLib has a tremendous advantage in its ability to be used for multiple frontends
09:59.04ckknightFisker-: link!
09:59.08Fisker-i'm just gonna lol if the brainstorm resulted in some of threat's already implented stuff :P
09:59.12Fisker-http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/
09:59.18Fisker-just read the last post by kenco
09:59.22Fisker-In other news, i had an awesome brainstorm and have some cool stuff in the pipeline for KTM 20.x.
09:59.25Antiarcyeah, saw that already
09:59.27Silviu-Antiarcat line 45 is not Blessing of Wisdom ?
09:59.29deltronlol
09:59.34Silviu-Not seal ?
09:59.40Silviu-Don`t know don`t have an Pala
09:59.46AntiarcNo, that's right
09:59.49AntiarcIt's throwing a syntax error
10:00.01Antiarc'}' expected to close '{' at line 38
10:00.03boobies4uInterface/AddOns/Prat_Libs/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:2350 Attempts to index local "s" a number value
10:00.05AntiarcAnd I can't see why
10:00.13Silviu-Antiarc at me no :/
10:00.14boobies4uguys, i keep getting this errorbox up everytime i enter Arathi Basin
10:00.18boobies4uthe error abow
10:00.35boobies4uit pops up everytime there is activity in the chat window, anyone got any ideas?
10:00.44Silviu-Antiarc i don`t get any error ;p
10:00.53AntiarcHuh, ok
10:00.56AntiarcMust be something in my setup
10:01.17Silviu-Antiarc maybe u did not reloadui after latests coma cleanup ;p
10:02.27ckknightoh no, his ideas come from the pipeline!
10:02.34Mikkhahahahahahaha
10:02.49ckknightthe seeds of discontent have been sown.
10:03.53Fisker-yarr
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10:05.55SerpentKnightshello
10:06.03ckknightpshaw, let's hope he doesn't do anything brash
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10:06.12ckknighthey SerpentKnights
10:06.16SerpentKnightshiya
10:06.39SerpentKnightsso what's everybody up to?
10:06.49boobies4uckknight, dogchow have GUI config yet
10:06.55ckknightno
10:07.00ckknightwhy would it?
10:07.06boobies4ucause its hot
10:07.13ckknightk
10:07.23Fisker-NO U
10:07.51SerpentKnightsso.. somebody want to help me get started on the addon ideas.. i have a few >.>
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10:09.48MikkNowai, they're all going to help me with a better GC/GEM first :-P
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10:17.24doktoreashi to all
10:17.50doktoreasis there an addon other then "atl+tab" to check eqdkp stored in a wedsite?
10:17.57doktoreas*website
10:20.32Mikkseveral
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10:21.51CIA-2203antiarc * r38098 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Implemented what I hope is a fix for the various nil target errors that have been popping up.
10:22.00doktoreasMikk: any suggest?
10:23.06CIA-2203ominous * r38099 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Rogue.lua ClassTimer.lua): ClassTimer: oops a => was a <=
10:25.35CIA-2203antiarc * r38100 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Removed debug message.
10:28.42CIA-2203mikk * r38101 10Violation/Violation.lua:
10:28.42CIA-22Violation:
10:28.43CIA-22- Optimize a bunch of string concats into format(...)s. Much less garbage string creation.
10:28.43CIA-22- Display short modules names in the bar window when it's too thin.
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10:36.50CIA-2203antiarc * r38102 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fixed "nil passed to UnitIsUnit" error.
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10:43.10Silviu-Antiarc, Thear.lua:453 PublishThreat() has been called with an active class module
10:43.14Silviu-Threat*
10:43.39AntiarcLatest revision?
10:43.47Silviu-Yup
10:43.47AntiarcI think that's a race condition
10:43.50AntiarcNot sure what the deal is
10:43.59Silviu-38103
10:44.20Silviu-w8 i enable Bugsack
10:45.26Silviu-Hmm now no error, i was in a grp with an hunter before
10:45.30Silviu-I`m a druid
10:45.56[Liq]http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=74&Set=64
10:45.59[Liq]Haha thats SO me
10:47.31Fisker-http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=73&Set=64 <-me
10:48.08sbumorning :o
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11:03.30DhirmadiGood mornign everyone
11:03.58Mikkg'moanin
11:04.32Dhirmadihey Mikk, mind me asking you a question?
11:04.44Mikkno
11:04.56[Liq]Well said
11:05.07Mikkthank you, i try
11:05.36Dhirmadiwould youknow top of your head anything about ingame DKP/loot/masterloot solutions. sort of in the line like xloot, but including a form of DKP tracking? (which be ace based)
11:06.08Mikkxloot integrates with some of the dkp addons doesn't it?
11:06.27[Liq]Look in the source
11:06.32Mikkand no, i don't really know the exact names of DKP loot handling addons
11:06.36Mikki know there IS a bunch tho
11:06.43Mikkhttp://files.wowace.com/  <- ctrl+f for dkp
11:08.04_icetrainAntiarc: Pet.lua:197: attemtp to perform arithmetic on local 'threat' (a nil value)
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11:08.47CIA-22AtlasLoot:
11:08.47CIA-22- Correction: Worg Hide Quiver
11:11.25CIA-2203daviesh * r38107 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:11.25CIA-22AtlasLoot:
11:11.25CIA-22- v3.00.08 finalised
11:11.28sbuepgp > DKP :p
11:11.43Tornhoofepeen?
11:13.50sbueh no
11:14.15sbuhttp://code.google.com/p/epgp/wiki/WhatIsEPGP_v2 <-- epgp
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11:16.46CIA-22AtlasLoot:
11:16.46CIA-22- Fixed Clefthoof Hide Quiver
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11:17.38Ominouswhats the folder name for ct buff mod?
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11:18.46evlMy addon's fonts are really jaggy, is there some rendering option i might hve missed?
11:19.20Stephmwgood morning everyone
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11:20.37Imp4kTCT_Buffmod
11:20.37Imp4kT..
11:21.53Stephmwevl: standard fonts, or some fancy ones?
11:22.02DhirmadiMikk, i've already done the research, but apparently, people focus either on DKP, mostly on web based solutions like eqdkp, or on looting addons, like the xloot (fantastic one btw)
11:22.27Dhirmadimikk: hence i thought i'd ask if i'd have missed out on something :)
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11:23.28Dhirmadiwould any of you fine people know about some knowledgable LUA code that would be interested in developing or supporting to develop such an addon?
11:24.15Punkie`Dhirmadi: Go look at BananaDKP
11:24.45Imp4kT"DKP system for all guilds in the Banana Republic"
11:24.52Dhirmadiidid try to find information about it. but there is very little documenation about it :(
11:25.26Punkie`there's loads?
11:25.28Punkie`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BananaDKP/readme.txt
11:26.56Punkie`But you would be forced to use that DKP system unless you wanted to learn some lua and make a module for yourself
11:27.16DhirmadiPunkie, that is a very valid point.
11:27.52Dhirmadii do remember reading that TXT before... it is like many otehrs a very vailable system, though it does not close the gap between points and looting
11:27.57clad|sleepEPGP is a very good system
11:28.05clad|sleepFWIW
11:28.42Dhirmadihuman error is not very well supported by blizzard, hence if you give someone a wrong item, the second time that happends they wil not longer transfer the item. hence as a raid lead, you're screwed if you make a mistake
11:29.07Dhirmadiclad: i am quite sure it is. i suppose it is but a matter of preference....
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11:29.59Dhirmadieffort driffen DKP favors high attendance people and discurages the more casual people, or people beeing rotatet out. a perfect system for a high end raiding guild with loads fo very active poeple
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11:31.14Dhirmadii had a look at the ace2 libraryis. i do feel, if knowledgable, it will not eb such an effort. using ace-com for sync, babble for boss and zone lists, ace-event for event handling and someone knowing to create a good gui...
11:31.36Dhirmadidid i interpret the API correctly, that you can have the addon pass an item from a loot window to a player?
11:32.15kbhwtb detached cast bar for pitbull
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11:33.02Dhirmadiwhy wanting it detached, KBH?
11:33.20kbhi dont want it under my frame lol
11:33.35Dhirmadienemycast bar, or some similar tool?
11:34.08kbhi dont think that includes the casts for me
11:34.10Dhirmadiarchud for a more prominemnt in the middle of your screen solution perhaps?
11:34.46kbhwell, if pitbull is putting a castbar on my screen already, i dont want to have to run another addon lol
11:35.03Dhirmadithat does make sense, yes. brilliant addon too, that  pitbull
11:35.23kbhits very very nice
11:35.35Dhirmadialthough at times the targetframe does not show up, you had that too?
11:35.47kbhi think that was a blizzard bug
11:36.16sbuclad|sleep: yup :)
11:36.19sbu<3 epgp
11:36.30Dhirmadioh it was... hope thy fix that soon.. bugged mre mighty last thursday in karazhan
11:36.38Imp4kTif youre in a guild with casuals and they get punished for it, its harder for the guild to progress when they decide to come =)
11:36.52Imp4kTso maybe its more logical to give casuals more DKP as they have less chance for loot D:
11:36.55kbhlet them get on-time dkp
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11:37.18Dhirmadihmmm time matters are dealt with using attendance...
11:37.35Dhirmadiand you aks for a minimal attendance in order to be able to bid
11:37.50Dhirmadianyone knowthe developer of the xmasterloot addon?
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11:40.08Punkie`Xuerian
11:40.28Dhirmadiis he still active?
11:41.42Dhirmadiif you would combine bananaDKP with xloot you'd have a great raiding/masterloot soultion with DKP :)
11:41.55harldephind'uh
11:42.34Dhirmadiquestion of etiquette, is it allowed to copy nad past code from existing addons?
11:43.35kbhif the addon is open source, cite the author :P
11:44.01harldephinyea. let's put all stuff existing into one huge buggy slow add-on. i'm "sure" everyone will be happy then
11:44.19Silviu-Anyone still have an working link for Wow Torrent Extract program ? ;)
11:44.20kbhyou could make like a bananadkp plugin for xloot
11:44.33Silviu-www.capnbry.net is not working for me anymore :)
11:45.36HjalteAnyone in here using Lexan?
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11:50.12CIA-2203ominous * r38111 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/General.lua Bars/Warlock.lua ClassTimer.lua): ClassTimer: now /ct wont work if CT_BuffMod is enabled, fixed syntax error
11:51.01Punkie``Silviu-: Did you get it, I crashed
11:51.09Silviu-Punkie`` no
11:51.14Punkie``http://web.archive.org/web/20060419111233/http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WoWTorrentEx-2.zip
11:51.26Silviu-Thank u
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11:52.20Silviu-Hmm not working eighter ;p
11:52.32kbhi need new shoulders
11:52.42Punkie``works for me
11:52.50Punkie``It just takes forever to start the download
11:52.55Silviu-Ah ok
11:55.25kbhthese cloth shoulder graphics are starting to depress me
11:56.37kbhrno thank you
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11:56.41kbhwhoops
12:00.20CIA-2203mikk * r38112 10Violation/Violation.lua:
12:00.20CIA-22Violation:
12:00.20CIA-22- Add scaling of bar window
12:00.20CIA-22- Clamp bar window to screen
12:00.44Punkie``Can anyone recommend a good software firewall for windows? I currently use outpost and I'm getting BSoD's today when playing wow with it :(
12:01.09FISKER_QNOTHING
12:01.11FISKER_Qat all
12:01.16FISKER_Qbest firewall ever
12:01.41Punkie``nice
12:01.43QQngsksound advice
12:01.52Punkie``should i turn windows firewall back on then too?
12:02.00nevcairielI havent found any good "personal" firewall yet :/
12:02.10nevcairielwtb iptables for windows!
12:02.17trhPucmel: windows firewall is sufficient for 90% of the users =)
12:02.33trhnevcairiel: i wouldn't call iptables a personal firewall
12:02.36Silviu-Punkie`` only getting an 20 kb file that is empty
12:02.45Pucmelwhat what ?
12:02.55nevcairieltrh: neither would i, but still, i would be happy with it :P
12:03.02trhPucmel: i meant Punkie`..... ;)
12:03.09Pucmel:)
12:03.20trhnevcairiel: well... configuring iptables without sth. like shorewall is a pita
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12:04.03Punkie``how can I kick my other nick from freenode?
12:04.18nevcairiel./ns ghost nick password
12:04.19nevcairielor so
12:04.31nevcairielif its registered
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12:04.43FISKER_Qyeah
12:04.55Punkie``thanks
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12:09.36CIA-2203mikk * r38113 10Violation/Violation.lua:
12:09.36CIA-22Violation:
12:09.36CIA-22- Fix error in "/violation" command (uninitialized colors)
12:09.36CIA-22- Keep downscaled bar window from jumping away from screen edges on load (set scale before clamp)
12:12.11HjalteWhen displaying Threat via Violation, the window seems to update slower than with eg Omen. I guess this is something to do with the coding of Violation?
12:12.18MikkWhewt. Vio really needed scaling :>
12:12.37MikkHjalte: Vio doesn't update its bars too often
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12:13.24MikkIirc the update interval is 2 seconds
12:13.27MikkToo long?
12:13.59FISKER_QMikk !
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12:14.09FISKER_Qyou're an admin on wowwiki right? :P
12:14.15Mikkyes
12:14.30FISKER_Qhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Known_vandals
12:14.42FISKER_QLook at scrubzorz
12:14.52FISKER_QHe keeps reverting and removing some of our pages
12:15.00FISKER_Qwell he stopped half an hour ago or something
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12:17.49MikkFISKER_Q: Removing and reverting?
12:17.56MikkI only see him trying to add content to the server page
12:18.24FISKER_Qyeah
12:18.41FISKER_Qand he's reverting back to the shit he wrote
12:19.17Mikkhmm and deleting guild progression, i see
12:19.22FISKER_Qyeah
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12:19.29FISKER_Qhe did that on all pages actually
12:20.40MikkI'm not going to slap his fingers over the player characters. There's stuff like that on all servers.
12:20.46MikkDeleting guild progression though ...
12:21.08packetlssis there an macro conditional that "check" if a spell is greyed out in 2.1?
12:22.10FISKER_QMikk articles are supposed to NPOV right?
12:22.50FISKER_QSemper Danica was always a pretty terrible guild. Maybe the newly formed <Expired> will soar up like a phoenix from the ashes. I, for one, am rooting for you Fisker! Go get em.
12:23.07FISKER_QLock up your TV's and hide your Colt .45, it's Mahmu. Straight thugging out of WSG, this guy was the non-official posterboy for Nashwan until he one day realised his guild was the biggest joke on the server and decided to abandon ship.
12:23.53FISKER_Qbeside for the obvious profanity and other slander of course
12:29.49MikkIf you want to get down to semantics, you both violated the 3 Reverts Rule :-P
12:29.49FISKER_QThe three-revet rule only applies to relevant info, posting stuff like people being in a crappy guild, having a thumb up their ass, being a fatass and being a joke isn't really that relevant?
12:29.49Mikkhehe true
12:29.49MikkAnyway.. no, that's not very npov. But it could certainly easily be rewritten to be so.
12:29.49MikkEither way, guy's blocked for 2 weeks
12:29.49FISKER_Qyeah
12:29.49MikkHoller if he's being an arse again
12:29.50FISKER_Qi'll do so
12:29.52CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r38114 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/DemonTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: DemonTrainer deDE fix.
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12:39.41CIA-2203mikk * r38116 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Decrease bar refresh time from 2s to every 1s. 2s is too seldom for threat.
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12:59.45BankZOk, I am so over agUF, its all about Pitbull now
12:59.57nevcairieli am still happy with agUF
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13:00.30BankZI dont see how anyone who trys Pitbull would ever use agUF again
13:00.39BankZbut thats just me
13:01.02[Ammo]because agUF is more efficient
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13:01.31BankZmore efficient how?
13:01.40vodrineven after removing most pitbulls modules?
13:01.47[Ammo]1/3rd of the memory, 1/5th cpu
13:01.56[Ammo]using same featureset as agUF
13:01.57BankZI dont see that
13:02.14BankZmy memory usage went up 2mb
13:02.21BankZbut a lot more features
13:02.28BankZa lot
13:04.36nevcairieli really dont need any of the extra features
13:04.49nevcairieland some module of PitBull keeps #132ìng me
13:05.43nevcairielall that modularity is too much imho :)
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13:06.31BankZI think is perfect
13:06.34[Ammo]BankZ: I said using the same featureset as agUF
13:06.40[Ammo]meaning I disabled the spark etc
13:07.02BankZI am using more and only seen a minor up in memory
13:07.14[Ammo]2mb increase = a lot
13:07.19BankZLooking at the release notes, he improved preformaces
13:07.37BankZ*preformace
13:07.45BankZwell, I am using more features
13:07.47[Ammo]not enough, by far
13:08.08nevcairieli disabled all that funky features in pitbull anyway
13:08.13[Ammo]but if you're happy with the features use em
13:08.15nevcairielso i figured, back to agUF with me
13:08.18[Ammo]I'll stick to agUF
13:08.45nevcairielyeah same, i tried PitBull for about a week, but couldnt really convince me
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13:10.30Dhirmadiwhy does Pitbull exactly not convice? is it slower and ehavery than agUF?
13:11.16[Liq]Hahahahaha
13:11.17[Liq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNQiwrbEEUA&mode=related&search=
13:11.21[Liq]Best Mage vid ever !!
13:11.46nevcairielDhirmadi: same features for me, at increased resource usage
13:11.50nevcairielso no thanks :)
13:13.00BankZnow I just need to find something to replace HealBot
13:13.43sbuhm pitbull is 1.3mb for me?
13:13.46sbunvm... ;p
13:14.11fixtzewhat does pitbull have
13:14.13fixtzethat aguf does not?
13:14.16sbuthere is no 'best' - so doesnt matter anyway ;o
13:14.59nevcairielsbu: agUF is like 400k for me
13:15.14Dhirmadihmm i am suing pitbull now.. but really only use target, tot and focus frames
13:15.50[Ammo]dogtag + pitbull = heavy cpu users
13:17.21fixtzemy UI; http://tinyurl.com/34jswc heavily photek inspired, the one im thinking of changing to/emulating: http://www.lrguild.org/kerp/kerpui.jpg
13:17.47fixtzeI really do like kerp's UI Setup, only thing i dislike is not having the buttons near center of screen (I like seeing cooldowns on spells etc without having to move my eyes to much)
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13:19.37CIA-2203sayclub * r38118 10oRA2/Optional/PlayerTarget.lua: oRA2: koKR update
13:20.36[Liq]No Target: http://i13.tinypic.com/6gd55d2.jpg
13:20.40[Liq]Target: http://i7.tinypic.com/61ts39u.jpg
13:21.06Silviu-http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot060207135212op7.jpg
13:21.19fixtzeI dont particlarly like the bars around the char
13:21.26fixtzei do love the UI concept though
13:21.29fixtzeit's symmetric
13:21.32fixtzewhich is the most important to me
13:21.47[Liq]I don't use the HUD anymore.
13:21.58fixtzeSilviu-'s UI i could never use
13:22.06Silviu-Why ? ;)
13:22.20Silviu-I can`t never use down mu unitframes
13:22.22fixtzemessy, unsymmetric, not logical and not framed
13:22.27Silviu-I tryed but i`m used to look up :P
13:22.35BankZwhats dogtag?
13:22.49Silviu-BankZ Library for PitBull
13:22.55BankZahh
13:22.56[Liq]Ye I need it simple, no need to know 100000000s of info not even related to me or my target
13:23.11fixtzewell
13:23.20fixtzeI tend to use DPS meters a lot and threatmeter
13:23.26fixtzeand I also use SWL and recount heavily
13:23.31fixtzeto analyze other mages and also other dps classes
13:23.36[Liq]My raid can go do whatever they want, no need to know if they die/sleep/drink/whatever, party alsmost the same unless in arenas. I just need a chat, buttons and 2x UFs
13:23.40fixtzeso i need it all
13:24.08[Liq]But why fixtze?
13:24.18[Liq]It's not like you increase your dps by seeing someone else having higher dps than you?
13:24.29fixtzeNo but I can whip the people that slack
13:24.34fixtzeand try to analyze spell-rotations
13:24.50fixtzeand see where other mages excell compared to me
13:25.34fixtzeand Dmgmeters are fun for internal competitions on bosses
13:25.37Dhirmadianyone here working with bananaDKP?
13:25.39Silviu-[Liq] i like your ui
13:25.48BankZAnyone know something better than HealBot?
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13:30.10kbhhey liq whats the "f key" replacement you have there?
13:30.19kbherr "v key"
13:30.30Dhirmadibankz, what exactly does healbot do?
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13:37.16BankZhealing buttons
13:37.26BankZand decursing buttons
13:37.33Gngskgrid?
13:37.59BankZI guess I can try that again
13:38.05kebinusanAre there any mods or is it possible to show other players positions from your raid on the minimap
13:38.13kebinusanrather than just your party
13:38.20Gngskcan't really mess with minimap like that
13:38.42Gngskyou used to be able to do stuff like that I think
13:38.53Gngskthere was a mod that would put your target on the minimap
13:39.10kebinusanso its not possible to add pins that would represent raid members like you can with the real map
13:39.27GngskI'm not 100% positive, but I don't think it is
13:40.26kebinusanI was trying to see if maybe there was a way to show say the position of people with raid target icons over their heads on sme sort of map, so it'd be easy to visualize if everyone is at a cube on magtheridon
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13:40.52kebinusanbut I guess you even have less ability to track that sort of things in instances
13:41.53Stephmwkebinusan: someone is working on this
13:42.12kebinusanoh?
13:42.13Stephmwkebinusan: you can work out range and direction if everyone uses the same mod
13:42.39kebinusanah through distance checks and triangulation
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13:42.50kebinusanId assume
13:42.52Mikknot really
13:43.06Mikkbut you can get the vector to where the minimap was last pinged
13:43.09kebinusanwell except you cant tell direction easily I guess
13:43.11Mikkvery hacky :-P
13:43.15kebinusanyeh
13:43.24MikkSo one ping and suddenly everyone knows where they are
13:43.33kebinusanI was thinking more of something a bit over the top for a magtheridon assist mod
13:43.49kebinusanreally I guess all it would need is the ability to define cube teams and slap raid target icons over their heads
13:43.51StephmwMikk: didn't Cryoect (or another C-named person) have something ping-less?
13:44.09MikkCryect's GPSlib works off of ping loc
13:44.21MikkYou jsut have to be a bit clever so you don't need to re-ping all the bloody time
13:45.24Stephmwhmmmm
13:45.35Dhirmadianyone know if Rabbit frequents this channel?
13:45.38StephmwI thought he went from loc on instance entry
13:45.40vhaarrDhirmadi: I'm here.
13:46.04MikkStephmw: You can't get that loc.
13:46.11MikkThe only loc you can get is relative to ping
13:46.21StephmwMikk: you can assume it's 0,0 though and scale everything from there, no?
13:46.34StephmwMikk: and with stored scalings per instance
13:46.46Mikkprolly something like that
13:46.56Mikkhm i need to see what the ping loc is on instance entry
13:47.10MikkRFC here i come :-P
13:47.18StephmwI'd imagine that any such system increases accuracy with members+distance
13:47.22Stephmwhaha
13:48.12kebinusanI dunno I just find the magtheridon fight so stressful as a raid lead, watching/counting adds, checking people at cubes calling replacements if need be
13:48.25kbhwtb player dots on cartographer instance maps
13:48.31wobinI'm envisualisng some sort of 'radar' addon
13:48.36wobinthat pings every now and again
13:48.55wobinie, the player with the symbol pings their 0.0 (current loc)
13:48.55Stephmwwobin: or error circles around players :)
13:49.03Stephmwwobin: more time > bigger error
13:49.18wobinand the others take that ping to identify the marker that needs to be changed to the symbol
13:49.53wobinThat would only work for the party though
13:50.08Mikkhm?
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13:51.31Mikksigh.. i've forgotten the API for querying the ping loc
13:52.03Solerofl I just watched an interview with jessica alba and another dude from the incredible 4
13:52.11Soleand he gave em postcards from new zealand
13:52.20Soleexcept he wrote his number on the back of the one he gave to alba
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13:52.40Solehe being the interviewer
13:52.45Stephmwhahaha
13:52.56wobinMikk: It's just an event, isn't it?
13:53.12Mikkno, you can query it
13:53.49wobinMinimap_PingLocation
13:53.55wobinsorry
13:53.59wobinMinimap_GetPingLocation
13:54.10wobins/_/:/
13:54.29kebinusanbtw anyone know if there there is a grid addon to change the layout by instance or something
13:54.41kebinusanlike automagically switch to 25 in gruul's lair
13:54.49MikkMinimap:GetPingPosition
13:55.14wobinyeh =P
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13:56.09Chomperscan grid show mana status?
13:56.53MikkOkay, yeah, ping position remains set in an instance
13:56.56MikkBut to what.. god knows
13:57.15kebinusanChompers: you can have it display something differently when a target is low on mana for example and set a threshold
13:57.23MikkI got 14.55 , 5.94 when I zoned into RFC
13:57.27kebinusanI think the default for this is a blue dot in one corner
13:57.50Chompersah right, thanks
13:59.59wobinMikk: You could call the addon MarcoPolo =)
14:00.11wobinOnce you've written it, of course! =)
14:00.27MikkHmwa? Just minimap loc everyone in the raid?
14:00.42MikkThat should be easy enough
14:01.06wobinand replace their icon with their raid icon?
14:02.04[dRaCo]ckknight: have you ever thought of implenting different raid layouts to pitbull? like one for 10mans, 15mans, etc.
14:03.50MikkAnd MarcoPolo sounds like Cartograhper v2
14:04.43BankZThe man thing I want in pitbull is to be able to resize and move the raid incons (leader, Master Loot, ect)
14:05.57wobinMikk: You're obviously not getting into the spirit of things =P
14:06.21wobinHalf the fun of the addon is the wacky name
14:06.51wobinCause "Where's My Cow" is far more interesting than "Frame Detail List"
14:08.11Adirelle_[Ammo], what about using http://ace.pastey.net/48701 instead of "not UserViolation" ? the idea is to centralize all checking in one method
14:08.34CIA-2203toadkiller * r38120 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua ChangeList.lua Core.lua):
14:08.34CIA-22AutoBar:
14:08.34CIA-22-- Fix tooltip bug
14:08.34CIA-22-- Add script support
14:08.43MikkActually, to make something like this useful, you'd have to stick the reporting functionality in some mod that people are actually using
14:08.54MikkLike embedding a minilib into like.. oRA2
14:09.42MikkSee ping: transmit vector to ping to raid chan
14:10.19kebinusan007/06/02 09:44:59-1617-x1]: Fence-1.0.38014\modules\Fence_Browse.lua:60: AceLocale(Fence_Browse): Translation "Show Single-Price" does not exist.
14:10.25MikkAnyway, I ain't doing it :>
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14:18.06Dhirmadianyone know a good tutorial for understanding UI cretion better? i struggle a bit and would liek to read up more on it, to create a basic window with 3 buttons and a filed displaing text based on the button you press?
14:22.41CIA-2203mikk * r38121 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua Baggins_ItemOps.lua):
14:22.41CIA-22Baggins:
14:22.42CIA-22- Let compression run for longer before assuming something's horribly wrong
14:22.42CIA-22- Abort compression when bags close
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14:23.39Silviu-vhaarr, [Ammo] [2007/06/02 17:23:29-80-x6]: Violation-1.0.38116\Violation.lua:1944: table index is nil
14:24.20vhaarryeah someone fucked up
14:24.22vhaarrprobably ammo
14:24.38HjalteAm I the only one finding addons such as "DBM Auto Turn In - updated version of the Deadly Boss Mods Auto Turn In Mod for runecloth." kind of funny? I mean, for gods sake, it is a boss mod.
14:24.44CIA-2203rabbit * r38122 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix.
14:26.35kbhturning in runecloth is a deadly affair
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14:28.56Silviu-Thx :)
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14:31.52kenlyric_____anyone here find any good replacement for mendwatch since it throws errors after 2.1, or do you live with the errors?
14:35.29BankZTHe MT frames in Pitbull are different than the ones in CT and oRA2, right?
14:35.35vhaarryes
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14:36.26BankZi wish they were the same, lol
14:36.41BankZcuz no one uses the pitbull MT's
14:36.56kbhthey're the blizzard MTs
14:38.22BankZyeah
14:38.26BankZhow do you set them?
14:38.29Daemonasomething borked with violation :/ [2007/06/02 16:34:41-2718-x4]: Violation-1.0.38116\Violation.lua:1944: table index is nil
14:38.57tsigohehe
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14:40.50Silviu-Daemona update
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14:57.30Dhirmadiquestion on frames. what is todays best practice for ace2 addons? creating them in the LUA or in a seperate XML file?
14:57.56hastedo what you like
14:58.23Dhirmadiso either way is fine, and there is no 'best practice' prefernce?
14:58.52Ominousi like lua more
14:59.00kenlyricno no.
14:59.04vhaarrDhirmadi: Do what you like, but generally, Lua is cheaper on memory, and faster to generate.
14:59.29kenlyricdo what everyone else does, or ckknight will deride you and rewrite it.
15:00.34dodgizzlaCan somebody add a keybinding to show/hide the Violation bars? :>
15:00.47dodgizzlapretty please? :D
15:01.58Dhirmadianyone pointers to a tutorial how to create a UI using LUA only?
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15:08.06dodgizzlaAlso is it possible to show total healing done in violation? i'd like to know who does not bother to overheal on the mt, so it's nice to know their total healing output :D
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15:08.49a-stray-cat`laptah hah! so thats how i get the channel windows to show in non-pro trillian. someone has to say something.
15:09.13a-stray-cat`laptdodgizzla: right click the top of the bars frame, and select healing done
15:09.16a-stray-cat`lapti think it's there
15:09.32a-stray-cat`laptdoes anyone happen to have the wow torrent extractor?
15:09.36a-stray-cat`laptall the links i find lead to a dead site :<
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15:10.04dodgizzlaa-stray-cat`lapt: noe, healing done is effective healing afaict :o
15:10.17a-stray-cat`laptdoh :<
15:10.19dodgizzlai will test again, but i was pretty sure i just showed effective
15:11.50dodgizzlawell, as I thought :D healing myself at full health does not change "healing done" :\
15:12.13sbuuhm - did you test in combat?
15:12.22vhaarrit only shows effective
15:12.28sbuoh ok ;o
15:12.30vhaarrthere's an "Overhealing Done" module
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15:12.40dodgizzlayeah but i need healing+overhealing
15:12.46vhaarrmake it then
15:12.47kbhlol for what?
15:12.48vhaarrit's not hard
15:13.15dodgizzlakbh: Because we have slacking healers on Gruul that go like "Uhm I do heal! I don't know why the tank died!"
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15:13.37sbuits easy since healing already contains overhealing stuff, so just copy that stuff into a new module and remove "- overheal" :)
15:13.49dodgizzlasbu: Yeah, will do :>
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15:18.51harldephinhm. my map doesn't show zone levels anymore.
15:20.06FISKER_Qheh
15:20.10FISKER_Qmy parents just bought gps
15:21.53Adirellewell, let me see how 1 hour of drycoding broke Violation (I mean I'll test locally)
15:22.24chutwigcheck it in and let the internet decide!
15:22.42Adirelledamn it, why can't lua handle UTF8 files with BOM
15:22.55a-stray-cat`laptBOM?
15:23.02AdirelleByte Order Marker
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15:23.34Adirellesomething that's included in the very beginning of some UTF-8 encoded file to indicate in which ordre multibyte character are stored
15:23.43a-stray-cat`laptah
15:24.00a-stray-cat`laptthat funky first character i occaisionally have to delete? :x
15:24.22Adirelleprobably
15:24.27harldephinoO
15:25.43dodgizzlavhaarr: Did that module; how can I get that into svn? :>
15:26.14vhaarrI'm not sure why it would be added to the svn
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15:26.35dodgizzlaSo it will not be overwritten everytime I update Violation?
15:26.41dodgizzlaOr should I make it a separate addon?
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15:53.02CIA-2203ruldar * r38124 10FuBar_TransporterFu/ (FuBar_TransporterFu.toc TransporterFu.lua):
15:53.02CIA-22FuBar_TransporterFu:
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15:55.13Punkie`vhaarr: poke
15:59.55CIA-2203mikk * r38125 10Baggins/Baggins_ItemOps.lua:
15:59.55CIA-22Baggins:
15:59.55CIA-22- Bag compression: Also put stuff in specialty bags if they're not already in them!
16:00.47CIA-2203ominous * r38126 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: fixed move enabling
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16:02.34Thorgard^2Are you able to get to 275 blacksmithing at level 30? :o
16:03.16kaidenno
16:03.20kaidenat level 35 yes
16:04.46vhaarrPunkie`: counterpoke
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16:08.05Punkie`y helo thar
16:08.27Punkie`can I change violation so that the fubar click shows/hides the bars and shiftclick resets?
16:08.37Mikkplease
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16:08.41vhaarrfine
16:08.44Punkie`thx
16:09.17MikkPunkie`: actually, move the reset to ctrl then
16:09.28CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r38127 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (TrainerFuLocals-enUS.lua TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua): FuBar_TrainerFu: Fix for Mage portal trainer writing over the arcane tree. Need translation to work...
16:09.31MikkOtherwise we'll have a lot of resets when people want to toggle bars
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16:10.15tsigo_bah, let them learn :P
16:11.02CIA-2203punkie * r38128 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Click Show/Hide Bars ~ Shiftclick Reset
16:11.04Mikk"them" is going to include "me" for sure :-(
16:11.12Punkie`oh yeah good idea
16:11.52Punkie`actually let them learn is a good option
16:12.48Mikksigh >.<
16:13.38NickenyfikenI never reset so i don't see why it should be that easy to access :-P
16:13.41FISKER_Qanyone know what will happen with my sshd if the config file isn't correct?
16:13.58Thorgard^2FISKER_Q, it'll choke and die on restart/start? ;P
16:13.59sbuwont start anymore? :p
16:14.25FISKER_Qyeah that's kinda what i'm afraid of :P
16:14.58CIA-2203punkie * r38129 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Fix Locale or vhaarr and ammo will doubleteam me
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16:15.36Gngsksweet mental vision
16:15.54Punkie`:D
16:15.57VaSh|hey all
16:16.14renchapFISKER_Q: when you restart sshd it does not stop opened ssh sessions
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16:17.38FISKER_Qcool :o
16:17.58FISKER_Qso i just add an alternate port in my config and it'll run on that too?
16:18.05renchapyes
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16:18.38MikkPunkie`: Ermmm.. changing the english strings in other locales is hardly right
16:18.50MikkI mean.. it's not like you're making the same change in the translation
16:19.45MikkAll you're accomplishing is having other locales display the wrong thing in their language :-P
16:19.57MikkI'd prefer having it be english and right myself
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16:20.37CIA-2203ominous * r38130 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: fixed move enabling(really have this time)
16:20.48Nyriautobar need to be configured for the new pvp water
16:21.03Borked|Raiderbeen searching abit on wowwiki, am i right thats theres no handle for when a dropdown menu are changed?
16:21.44Punkie`Mikk: what?
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16:22.54Punkie`I forgot to change the actual bit at the bottom which said click etc etc which could not find the translation
16:23.31MikkErm yeah
16:23.32MikkSo now you have a translation showing
16:23.51MikkAnd it's telling you to Click to reset and Shiftclick to toggle bars
16:23.55MikkException in another language
16:23.59MikkHow is this good? o.O
16:24.17Punkie`ehm, thats what i fixed in the second commit
16:24.41MikkUmm no
16:24.52MikkIn the first commit, there was simply no translation for the new message
16:25.08MikkIn the second commit, you made it show the old translation for the new message
16:25.11MikkThe old translation is no longer accurate
16:25.28Punkie`http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset?new=trunk%2FViolation%4038129&old=trunk%2FViolation%4038128
16:25.28Punkie`?
16:26.15CIA-2203ominous * r38131 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: fic for if CT_BuffMod is enabled
16:26.49MikkPunkie`: Yes, you changed the english string in the korean translation section
16:26.59MikkBut you didn't change the korean
16:27.07Punkie`dude
16:27.15Punkie`i forgot the bit at the bottom
16:27.22Punkie`http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset?new=trunk%2FViolation%4038129&old=trunk%2FViolation%4038122
16:27.26Punkie`changes over both commits
16:28.20Punkie`I changed the english locale first commit
16:28.20Punkie`but i forgot to change the actual other bit so i did another
16:28.20MikkI'm talking about line 148
16:28.20MikkThat change should not have been done
16:28.20MikkLine 148 should simply have been deleted
16:28.28Punkie`what difference does it make?
16:28.36Punkie`i added that for the localizers
16:28.53Punkie`so it makes it easier for them :p
16:28.56MikkBecause in korea, the tooltip will now say "<Korean>Click to reset</Korean>"
16:29.03Mikkwhich is not true
16:29.14MikkIt'd have been better to have "<English>Click to toggle bars</English>"
16:29.31Punkie`it has a -- in front
16:29.36Punkie`?
16:29.46Mikkoops >.<
16:29.59Punkie`kthx!
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16:31.14Appleswhats that damage meter in this pic? http://www.nihilum.eu/image/2630/
16:31.18Applesi think its ace.
16:31.27Applesbtm right corner
16:31.33FISKER_Qsw_stats
16:31.34fixtzeSWStats
16:31.46FISKER_Qthat ui is horrible btw
16:31.56FISKER_Qi hope the guy who has it feels bad
16:32.00fixtzemy UI; http://tinyurl.com/34jswc heavily photek inspired, the one im thinking of changing to/emulating: http://www.lrguild.org/kerp/kerpui.jpg
16:32.01fixtze=D
16:32.13sbuyup FISKER_Q, evil ;o
16:32.13Killmore7true :P
16:32.15fixtzeI've been looking at screenshotthreads all over
16:32.23fixtzeonly one i've found that's pretty is kerp and a ui someone here posted earlier today
16:32.28Punkie`FISKER_Q: I've seen your UI, you should feel bad too!
16:32.29FISKER_QWhat's with the big black box fixtze? Totally ruins it!
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16:32.40FISKER_Qnot as bad as that guy though Punkie`
16:32.50Mikkdear lord... party bars, AND perfectraid, AND grid
16:32.52Punkie`It's a close call
16:32.54Mikkjust pick one >.<
16:33.01fixtzerofl
16:33.03cladhairelol
16:33.05fixtzethat's me blanking out guildchat
16:33.08Lyfehe probably likes that UI.
16:33.24Punkie`people need to l2turnoff the border in grid too
16:33.29Punkie`that box is fugly
16:33.29FISKER_Qhttp://www.lrguild.org/kerp/kerpui.jpg <-is awesome
16:33.38FISKER_Qyeah Punkie`
16:33.47FISKER_Qbut i do that too
16:33.57Punkie`My UI > your UI fisker
16:34.00Punkie`UI WARS
16:34.12FISKER_QYARR
16:34.15sbuhmyup FISKER_Q, nice one
16:34.28sbubut not if you are healer ;p
16:34.41Lyfeyeap, scary thing if you're a healer.
16:34.45FISKER_Qwhat do you mean?
16:35.04Mikkyou want bars much more central if you're a healer
16:35.06QuantumDeltatbh that nihi ui is a typical paladin ui
16:35.10sbuwell you have to stare in the lower right corner
16:35.12Punkie`Mikk: Show us your UI!
16:35.20Mikkyou don't wanna see my ui
16:35.20QuantumDeltathe only thing he could really do is turn off his party frames
16:35.29Punkie`I do!
16:35.29Mikkit looks too much like the nihilum guy's ui
16:35.31QuantumDeltayou need that much crap on your screen -.-
16:35.37Punkie`I'll show you mine if you show me yours!
16:35.50MikkQuantumDelta: nowai he needs both perfect raid and grid at the same time
16:36.07QuantumDeltahmmm not played with them yet
16:36.20Mikkthey're both raidbars
16:36.56FISKER_Qmust say i've always been used to having my raidframes in the bottom right
16:37.22FISKER_Qif anything i would have them in the upper left
16:37.23QuantumDeltathat's where I keep mine
16:37.28Mikkmost healers i know like clustering them around 6 o clock
16:37.38Mikknearly covering themselves
16:37.41Punkie`I have my grid in the upper left
16:37.48Punkie`but I don't heal
16:37.51QuantumDeltamine gravitate around 4-5 oclock
16:37.55Punkie`and it's sorted by class
16:38.09FISKER_Qi could probably dig having them at 6 o clock too
16:38.22Punkie`Mikk - UI!
16:38.23Applesfixtze is that necro in top left?
16:39.39Mikkyeye
16:40.03QuantumDeltahmm
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16:40.34QuantumDeltaanyone got any tricks to show consecration on SCT, but not have it spam the ENTIRE screen so you can mentally parse the situation live? :<
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16:40.48FISKER_QMSBT
16:40.52FISKER_Qbest trick in the world
16:40.56QuantumDeltaMSBT? Oo
16:41.04vithosi wish i had that few action buttons :( (kerpui.jpg)
16:41.20FISKER_Q^^
16:41.23FISKER_Qgot 4 bars
16:42.07vithosi have 5*12
16:42.13vithosplus PT3Bar
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16:42.28QuantumDeltaI have 5*12
16:42.32QuantumDelta+ aura bar
16:42.46MikkPunkie`: http://mikk.cjb.net/ui.jpg
16:42.50vithosbut it's my own fault really.  need to get around to menuing tracking/aspects
16:43.23Punkie`Mikk: You have errors!
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16:43.37Mikkand yeah i'm a default ui fan. lets me keep playing when shit hits the fan :-P
16:43.41Mikkkeybinds ftw
16:44.26QuantumDeltahttp://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot052007024750xa7.jpg
16:44.29Mikk(i use PR for raidbars btw)
16:44.55cladhairepraid sucks
16:44.59QuantumDeltaKTM goes in the bottom right
16:45.18QuantumDeltaraid frames go just above the minimap
16:45.35Gngskpraid is ok, but I wish it was ace2 omg then it'd be perfect!
16:45.40cladhairelol
16:45.42Mikkcladhaire: buh?
16:45.45Punkie`http://www.booncontrol.com/punkieui.jpg, http://www.booncontrol.com/punkieui2.jpg, http://www.booncontrol.com/punkiecombat.jpg
16:45.58cladhairehaha
16:46.00Punkie`http://www.booncontrol.com/punkieuicombat.jpg even
16:46.35vithoshttps://vith.mine.nu/WoWScrnShot_052807_203208.jpg
16:46.43Gngsko_O
16:46.53Gngskam I missing something or you roll with 3 lines of text in your chatframes
16:47.22Punkie`Gngsk: you didnt click 2!
16:47.31Gngsklol
16:47.35Gngskwhen does it switch from 1 to 2?
16:47.42Punkie`when i double click it
16:47.55hypetechPunkie`: how do you fight with no action buttons?
16:47.56Gngskahh
16:48.02GngskI get an error for the combat link
16:48.03kenlyricrogue?
16:48.07Mikkwho needs action buttons on screen
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16:48.16Punkie`hypetech: do you click? :P
16:48.18GngskI mainly use it for gcd
16:48.34Mikkyeah, really... cooldowns is all i need visible buttons for
16:48.36kenlyricwhen in doubt, if someone has no real ui, they're probably a rogue :)
16:48.40FISKER_Qwhere's nymbia when you need him btw?
16:48.57QuantumDelta(17:49:37) (kenlyric) when in doubt, if someone has no real ui, they're probably a rogue :) <----
16:49.02QuantumDeltaSo god damn true
16:49.03QuantumDelta:P
16:49.07durcynwho the devil uses action buttons?  spellbinder >
16:49.16Mikkhmm... i've played warlock, paladin and druid in reads... i use "no real ui" :-P
16:49.17kenlyricthat's actually a lot of data for a rogue ui. I've seen less :)
16:49.25Punkie`yeah it is
16:49.25Mikks/reads/raids/
16:49.40Punkie`I was going to go with 0 buttons, but I liketo have a few
16:49.41hypetechMikk: well wait. how do you keybind to a button that isn't visible on screen? shit I didn't even know you could do that
16:49.42kenlyricdurcyn: those of use who could never possibly remember all of the spells which are bound to buttons.
16:50.02fixtzeApples No cryolysis
16:50.07Mikkhypetech: Ermmm Key Bindings button in main menu
16:50.08kenlyricerrr, bound to keys
16:50.14Punkie`hypetech: get bartender and just tick hide the bar
16:50.19Applesis there an ace mod that acts like necro?
16:50.21durcynkenlyric: inconceivable.
16:50.28Gngskapples, yeah
16:50.46Mikkhypetech: i have spells in all bars 1--6... but i'm not showing em on screen
16:50.56hypetechPunkie`I have bartender, I just assumed that if I hid the bar, then the hotkeys wouldn't work
16:50.58hypetechwow
16:51.06Gngskapples, necronomicon2
16:51.08hypetechI may have to do some redesigning now :p
16:51.26ApplesGngsk its the sphere and everything?
16:51.36Punkie`Apples: Maybe henge does that
16:51.41Punkie`I think that's the idea of it
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16:51.53kenlyricdurcyn: how many buttons do you hit? are you a fire mage? :)
16:52.28GngskMikk, you use baggins?
16:52.36Mikkyes
16:52.51Gngskdo you know if it's possible to specify secondary sorting
16:52.53durcynkenlyric: nah, warlock.  and i still only use a single action bar for random crap like summons and tradeskills.
16:53.11Gngskfor instance, I am using the all in one profile, set to sort by type, but after it sorts by type it sorts alphabetically
16:53.24kenlyricI have 15 spells I use in combat. My brain can't hold that many keybindings.
16:53.26MikkGngsk: no, only one global sort method .. for now anyway
16:53.32durcynand even that i'd rather replace with sprocket-ish hideable bars
16:53.43Gngskdarn
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16:53.57Mikksort by _type_?  that's abit odd :-P
16:54.08Gngskwell
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16:54.14GngskI want it to look like OneBag or bagnon
16:54.18Gngskbut stay sorted automatically
16:54.21Gngsklike if it was plowed
16:54.47Mikkoho
16:54.49Mikki find that unnavigable myself :-P
16:54.53Mikkbut that's me
16:55.22Mikki'll ss my baggins... gimme a sec
16:55.25hypetechI think I would have to keep at least one button up to see global cooldown, but as a mage, I pretty much remember all of my other hot keys by now
16:55.29GngskI basically want it sorted in groups, but displayed as one large group
16:55.40durcynquartz gcd bar works well for that
16:55.56vithosi don't set it up that way so this is just a guess, but perhaps if you added rules in the order you want stuff to appear all into one category and just had one section in one bag with sort by type?
16:56.53hypetechlol. I love it when you see [SERVER Restart in 10:00] all of a sudden without announcement and then trade chat goes berserk
16:56.54Mikk"sort by type" sorts on the GetItemInfo() "type" return field
16:57.10Gngskgotcha
16:57.29hypetechyou would think blizzard walked up and stabbed some of these kids when server restart messages come up
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16:58.15hypetechanybody here on Trollbane btw? just a shot in the dark
16:58.36kenlyricdurcyn: do yo have a SS of your UI? I'm working on mine and need ideas on making it smaller.
16:59.23Appleshttp://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1828/uinu1.jpg whats in top left?
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17:00.25hypetechHere's my Raid UI :) http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/WoWScrnShot_053107_204515.jpg
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17:00.49MikkGngsk: http://mikk.cjb.net/baggins.jpg   <- the section in the middle doesn't open automatically, but i like having it up when i'm sorting gearsets etc
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17:01.22hypetechmikk: you like baggins better than onebag?
17:02.07Mikkunless i misunderstood onebag, it doesn't do the kind of filtering that baggins can
17:02.26durcynkenlyric: http://www.vitriolic.net/~torgo/ui20070602.jpg
17:02.40JaxonNo, it can't, its just a simple boxed display
17:03.04Gngsktakes up way too much screenspace imo, I want it sorted like that but displayed very compact
17:03.08sbuhttp://img460.imageshack.us/img460/2465/wowscrnshot060207190109xs4.jpg <-- mine, but party only - no raid ;o
17:03.52MikkGngsk: You do notice the "+ Gear (32)"?  That's 32 slots of closetnome sets that isn't being displayed :-P
17:04.17MikkIf I don't want to see herbs, all I need to do is click the "- Herbs" section header
17:04.19Mikktadaa
17:04.27Imp4kTsbu you know the bottom right combat log
17:04.28kenlyricsbu: now that's the number of buttons I expect to see :)
17:04.30Imp4kTWhats the slash command for it
17:05.25kenlyricI really just need to learn to use alt and shift.
17:05.37Gngskthat and rebind capslock to control
17:05.41Gngskwish I'd done that ages ago
17:05.44JaxonThis is non-raid http://jaxon.ca/farming.jpeg  The middle chat box was extended a bit for the screenshot.
17:05.45Gngskstill getting used to it
17:05.49durcynkenlyric: i've got f2-f12 bound, and ' ; . / , [ ] \ as well :o
17:05.52kenlyricsbu: how do you self cast a heal if alt casts a damage spell?
17:05.56NickenyfikenCan someone explain to me what "Melee/Ranged aggro gain" means in threat meters?
17:06.04sbukenlyric: autoselfcast
17:06.07kenlyricdurcyn: my fingers don't travel that far.
17:06.12sbuno/hostile target
17:06.16JaxonNickenyfiken: melee and ranged need a certain percentage of the MT's threat to pull aggro.
17:06.17FISKER_QTecnoBrat
17:06.18kenlyricsbu: that doesn't work if you have a friendly targeted.
17:06.21FISKER_Qi need your pala help?
17:06.21sbui know
17:06.28sbuthats ok ;p
17:06.36JaxonNickenyfiken: I believe melee need 110% and ranged need 130%
17:07.08sbuImp4kT: unilog (swstats)
17:07.41kenlyricwhat things do you have macrod?
17:08.04Imp4kTOk thanks
17:09.25sbukenlyric: where?
17:10.20kenlyricyou hvae 4 macros, I just can't tell what they do.
17:10.26ApplesI just got fusw_stats2
17:10.36Applessays i need sw_stats as a dependant
17:10.40Appleswhere can i grab that
17:10.51Killmore7curse
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17:11.08Killmore7http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/2091/
17:11.12Applescool
17:11.12Applesty
17:11.24sbukenlyric: sws reset, print heal assignment, mount (flyable)
17:13.50sbunothing useful ;o
17:14.07Thorgard^2Hah.. the Rogue Voidwalkers south of Honor Hold are holding axes now for some reason.
17:15.13hypetechjaxon: what is your bag mod?
17:15.21JaxonBagnon
17:15.31hypetechI like that look better than onebag
17:15.58JaxonI've tried switching to the sorted style Bag addons, but it just takes up too much space for me.
17:16.01Applesermmm
17:16.20hypetechhmm?
17:16.21JaxonALso, the initial setup is rather daunting, especially when you aren't sure what you want or what you can do with it.
17:16.38hypetechya, I'm not interested in the bag being sorted all over my screen either heh
17:16.42hypetechwhere did you get bagnon?
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17:17.05Jaxonhypetech: http://tuller.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=59
17:17.07NickenyfikenJaxon: Ah i see, so uhm if i am melee DPS i have to go over the melee gain meter?
17:17.32JaxonNickenyfiken: Sure?  I've never used a threat monitoring mod so I'm not familiar with the implementation.
17:17.37vodrinif you are in melee range, like a moonkin going for huge mana procs
17:17.43vodrinwould have to be under 110%!
17:17.43Killmore7FuBar_CustomMenuFu doesnt work :(
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17:21.15FISKER_Qanyone knows if i can rig autobar to use trinketslots?
17:21.54JaxonNo, I've tried it before.
17:22.04JaxonNot without rewriting parts of it.
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17:24.03FISKER_Qerr
17:24.08FISKER_Qwhy the fuck did i write autobar? :(
17:24.11FISKER_Qmeant PT3bar
17:24.26CIA-2203rewad * r38132 10WoWonid/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
17:24.26CIA-22WoWonid:
17:24.26CIA-22- ready for curse-release v1.7.1
17:24.26CIA-22- toc updated
17:24.26CIA-22- level 13 added
17:24.28hypetechwow, I just found the confg menu for one bag lol. Ya for columns and scaling, and huge yay for strata. Now the bag doesn't hide behind the auction house window :)
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17:25.18FISKER_Qbtw why doesn't kazzak show an enrage timer anymore
17:25.23FISKER_Qother than the when he enrages
17:25.48hypetechbigwigs doesn't have an enrage timer for kazzak? 0.o
17:25.52hypetechI know dbm does
17:26.10hypetech*hides from vhaarr*
17:26.12hypetechjust saying
17:26.48vhaarrhypetech: What's the timer?
17:27.00hypetechone minute
17:27.04hypetechhe enrages every one minute
17:27.54hypetechbtw, I switched over to bigwgs after our conversation yesterday and I am liking it :p
17:28.06JaxonThe greater good.
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17:28.43hypetechvhaarr: and don't forget the timer for attumen's curse ^_^
17:28.45FISKER_Qhe does have it after first enrage
17:28.54CIA-2203durcyn * r38133 10Fence/modules/Fence_Browse.lua: Fence: if you're going to add lookups for translations, try adding the translations themselves.
17:29.32hypetechFISKER_Q: ah, so it just doesn't start timer when you engage
17:30.47FISKER_Qyeah
17:31.31kaidenJaxon, in that screenshot you posted, is that a custom AG or PitBull set of frames to make the bordes a bit bigger and more spaced? also is that Smooth V2 for the texture?
17:32.01CIA-2203gameyuan * r38134 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua:
17:32.01CIA-22simpleMinimap:
17:32.01CIA-22- Add zhTW Translations
17:32.17hyperChipmunktakin a guess that it's the ouf layout
17:32.41hyperChipmunkfrom your description
17:32.59hypetechfisker_q: we downed kazzak in 1:35 with 31 people http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/WoWScrnShot_053107_222158.jpg :)
17:33.34JaxonIt is PitBull, I find it works better for me than AGUF once I disabled some of the modules I don't need (range check is a big one).  Its OUF layout and smooth texture, though I'm just "meh" about the texture.
17:33.40CIA-2203tsigo * r38135 10Cutup/Cutup.toc: Cutup: WoWInterface ID, we's official!
17:33.56hypetechI like smudge texture
17:33.57FISKER_Qcan't even understand why we go here
17:34.50hypetechFISKER_Q: why do you say that?
17:35.43hypetechFISKER_Q: I won this cloak http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30735 on him last time
17:36.09hypetechand he dropped hope ender
17:36.14hypetechhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30733
17:37.25fixtzei'd like kazzak just for cloak of the ancient spellborn
17:37.32fixtzei want that and ruby drape from prince
17:37.39hyperChipmunki like the minimalist texture and those new Melli Dark ones
17:37.53hypetechnew textures? where? :p
17:38.15kaidenhypetech, SharedMedia
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17:38.48hypetechkaiden: do I also need sharedmedialib?
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17:44.56FISKER_Qbtw lol hypetech
17:45.05FISKER_Qwe just survived 3 enrages
17:45.12FISKER_Qdied on the 4th
17:45.15FISKER_Q:<
17:45.31tsigoFISKER_Q: that's some low dps :P
17:45.56FISKER_Qalliance :<
17:46.00Gngskhmm
17:46.02FISKER_Qand yeah our dps isn't great either
17:46.08Gngskwonder why omen isn't showing the warrior in my grou's threat
17:46.11FISKER_Qlost 30% of hp to alliance
17:46.34FISKER_Qbut cool that we could sustain it for that logner
17:46.36FISKER_Qlong
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17:47.42FISKER_Qhttp://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_060207_194355.jpg <-
17:47.50FISKER_Qreduced my bars to 2 bars :P
17:48.02FISKER_Qpeople didn't like i used holy wrath anyways in karazhan
17:48.04JaxonIf you played a hunter, you could play without bars at all! AHAHAHA
17:48.21FISKER_Q:<
17:48.25FISKER_Qor rogue
17:48.34sbuofc you can, left click = target, right click = feign death, middle = auto shot ;p
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17:49.27NickenyfikenUhm my hunter got most buttons on the bars of all classes i play :-P
17:49.31JaxonI have 4 bars full of keybindings and I play a hunter :(
17:49.38NickenyfikenMaybe my shaman got more
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17:49.40JaxonI just don't need them displayed
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17:50.34hyperChipmunki use 113 buttons as a hunter =x
17:50.49hypetechfisker_q: lol he should never get 3 enrages off :p
17:51.09hypetechfisker_q: is anybody dying during your fights?
17:51.28hypetechfisker_q: you have to make sure nobody dies. every person that dies heals him for a crazy amount
17:51.34JaxonI love it when I do an svn update and my fps goes to shit :D
17:52.11HjalteI have all my healing spells on actionbars, even those that i've bound to mousebuttons, in the odd case that something should happen to my addons.
17:53.12ilifinis detox no longer functional?
17:53.24ilifin(I've not played for 3 weeks or so, missed the patch rush)
17:54.59sbumhh - wtb warrior stance detecting
17:55.02sbudetection
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17:55.15sbu(for pitbull? :p)
17:55.18grzesieqFISKER_Q: cool, now do that for my warlock :<
17:56.00liquiemhyperChipmunk, wtf?
17:56.17liquiemkidding, right?
17:56.54hyperChipmunknope
17:57.59liquiemyou should rename your bars into all-purpose bars :p
17:59.47FISKER_Qhypetech not until the last wave
18:01.55FISKER_Qwe got him to 3% before the 4th enrage, then a rogue came in without gear and healed him to 13%
18:01.58FISKER_Qthen enrage and die :(
18:03.12Killmore7anyone know an addon that is able to do similar thing to that ? http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot060207135925bu9.jpg
18:03.30MudkipzKillmore7, what realm are you on?
18:03.37Mudkipzoh
18:03.43Mudkipzthat's advanced tradeskill window :P
18:03.56MudkipzI used to use then until the patch came out with the searchable feature
18:04.03MudkipzATSW is a huge resource hog
18:04.15Killmore7yes, thats why I search something else
18:04.23Mudkipzhmmmm...
18:04.47Killmore7all I want is a filter and bigger window than the original small list
18:05.05Mudkipzya blizz really needs to rework their tradeskill windows
18:05.15Mudkipzmake a featuer in options to offer a bigger window
18:05.16nevcairieli use the default one with searching + FramesResized for a longer list
18:05.26Mudkipzalso rework the mailbox
18:05.54Mudkipzit's such a pain managing your mail when your main source of money is the auctionhouse
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18:07.47Chomperswould  anyone pay 3000g for one of those new darkmoon cards?
18:08.12sbumh - no ;p
18:08.20sbubut 2000 for depleted badge :/
18:08.25MudkipzYES
18:08.28Mudkipzdo want!
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18:08.39Mudkipzoh god i've been farming that for too long QQ
18:08.57MikkMudkipz: Postal
18:09.18MudkipzI have gmail
18:09.27MikkToss out, use postal
18:09.34Mudkipzwhy? i used to have postal
18:09.57MikkCause postal can do everything that gmail can and it's faster to use? =)
18:10.17sbuMudkipz: yup - druid friend is farming since patchday
18:10.23Mudkipzis postal the one that lets you mail out without clicking the yes/no button?
18:10.27Killmore7nevcairiel: how FramesResized is working ? I install it but I can resize my frame! :P
18:10.32hyperChipmunkthen toss out postal and install BulkMail2
18:10.38Mudkipzgah
18:10.43Mudkipzmake up your minds
18:10.44MikkMudkipz: yeah, alt+click = instasend
18:10.55ckknighthey all
18:10.57ckknighthow's everyone doing
18:11.01Mikkalt+click on items in your inventory that is
18:11.05Chompershey ckk
18:11.06sbufine ckknight :o
18:11.08hyperChipmunknono, ctrl-shift-click instasend...and to custom destinations!!!
18:11.30sbuckknight: possible to detect warrior stances w/o parsing combatlog?
18:11.40Mudkipzlook at the icon on their head?
18:11.45Mudkipzhaha :P
18:11.46phyber~seen Kaelten
18:12.37purlkaelten <n=kaelten@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18h 13m 8s ago, saying: ':P'.
18:12.38ckknightsbu: for yourself, not for party members.
18:12.38ckknightso Mudkipz, i herd u liek urself
18:12.38Mudkipzoh yes I do
18:12.41sbuckknight: mh :(
18:13.50Bayihi does somebody knows that is there a function in thw wow api that return the number of completed daily quests on a day ?
18:14.18Bayii looked on wowwiki but doesnt found anything...
18:14.49Killmore7nevcairiel: how FramesResized is working ? I install it but I can resize my frame! :P
18:15.00Killmore7cant*
18:15.13MudkipzhyperChipmunk, i c wut u did thar(shameless self advertisement) >_>
18:16.33vithosit's FramesResized not FramesResizable :P
18:16.45hyperChipmunkMudkipz: you saw nothing
18:17.03nevcairielKillmore7: you just install it, and craft frames etc are bigger =P
18:17.45MudkipzI got screenshots
18:18.05FISKER_Qman
18:18.09FISKER_Qthat faggot healed kazzak 4 times
18:18.16FISKER_Qseriously man, buff ress timers
18:18.37hypetechFISKER_Q: A guy in your raid?
18:18.44FISKER_Qno
18:18.47FISKER_Qthe alliance guy
18:18.53hypetechyou can get him banned for that
18:19.03nevcairielis there still that rule, interefer with kazzak and risk a GM ban ?
18:19.04Punkie`not doom lord apparently
18:19.07hypetechhe's not allowed to "allow himself to die to heal kazzak"
18:19.08hypetechya
18:19.12hypetechyes nevcairiel
18:19.14Punkie`i complained before
18:19.17Mudkipzthat's called griefing
18:19.20Punkie`and i ws told, sorry this is doom lord
18:19.22Mudkipzit's a bannable offense
18:19.28Mudkipzsame goes for people on your faction also
18:19.36FISKER_Qhmm lol
18:19.45hypetechwell you got a GM who doesn't know what he's talking about. it's bannable
18:19.50FISKER_Qlooks like pitbull raid configuration makes grid make test frames too
18:19.52FISKER_Qi lol'd
18:20.05Yinchiehrmm is it just me or is wowace soooo slow.?
18:20.10Mudkipz<-- can't stand grid
18:20.16Mudkipzsraidframes all the way!
18:20.23hypetechI got called for griefing for following a gnome around outside of uldaman for an hour. did nothing but follow him around, and I had a GM get on my ass
18:20.33hypetechMudkipz: grid > * :)
18:20.53Mudkipzwidescreen > grid
18:21.01hypetechMudkipz: good point
18:21.02Punkie`hypetech: wtf?
18:21.03Peoiisanwidescreen + grid > *
18:21.05hypetechI need widescreen :(
18:21.07Mudkipzlmao
18:21.09hypetechPunkie`: I know right
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18:21.10hypetechlol
18:21.31Arrowmasterhypetech: stalker
18:21.40hypetechwell it was a gnome
18:21.43PeoiiI'm a mage, the day I need more info about someone than grid is giving me in a tiny little box, is the day I reroll a warlock.
18:21.53hypetechI was bored and waiting to run some friends through ulda
18:21.57FISKER_Qhttp://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_060207_202103.jpg
18:21.57FISKER_Qhehe
18:22.03hypetechPeoii: exactly. I'm a mage, so I use grid as well :)
18:22.17hypetechfisker, wtf is that?
18:22.18hypetechlol
18:22.29FISKER_QGrid
18:22.40FISKER_QWhen i put pitbull in config mode grid made a lot of black boxes with nothing in it
18:22.41FISKER_Q;D
18:22.53hypetechweird
18:22.57FISKER_Qso pastamancer don't have to do it for me :D
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18:23.03hypetechI basically told pitbull to gtfo my raids
18:23.07hypetechdisabled all the raid modules
18:23.31FISKER_Qsame here
18:23.34Cryectyep
18:23.36CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r38136 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ (BattlegroundFu.lua FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc lib/):
18:23.36CIA-22FuBar_BattlegroundFu:
18:23.36CIA-22- Switchover from Metrognome to AceEvent. I did this months ago and I guess I forgot to commit. Oops.
18:23.36CIA-22- WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame re-shown on disable.
18:23.36CIA-22- Cleaned up externals.
18:23.40chutwigwtb module for pitbull that displays frames for everything that has a raid icon on it
18:23.44CIA-2203ckknight * r38137 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - potential bugfix
18:23.49chutwigi would love that a billion times over
18:23.58hypetechchutwig: what do you mean?
18:24.05FISKER_Qmy ui is gonna be so hot i can finally actually afford using stuff like EBBs
18:24.06hypetechlike a box for all marked targets?
18:24.10chutwigright, yeah
18:24.17hypetechthat would be pretty sweet
18:24.23Cryectyou can't have clickable unit frames you can have display info for them
18:24.25hypetechI wish you could just "/target skull"
18:25.45hypetechtab targetting ftl, trying to click on one luck charm in a sea of mobs ftl as well
18:25.45chutwigyeah
18:25.45hypetechlucky*
18:25.45chutwig"okay, star is dead, kill moon"
18:25.45chutwigand i go tab tab tab tab tab tab
18:25.45chutwigoops missed it
18:25.46chutwigshift-tab shift-tab
18:25.46hypetechwell if you have a main assist, it's easier
18:25.47hypetechlol
18:25.47hypetechas long as they're on the ball
18:25.47chutwigi use that when they remember to set up the MT/MA for oRA
18:25.47hypetechjust /assist on your tank and you can't lose :p
18:25.47chutwigbut usually they don't and i just tab
18:25.47vodrin/cast [harm] [harm,target=targettarget] spell
18:25.54chutwigwell, i mean for like trash pulls in SC
18:25.54vodrinthen just target ma and go afk
18:25.54chutwigwhere you have several mobs
18:26.13Cryectassisting on your tank = BAD!
18:26.15hypetechwell your tank should be attacking the mob you're dps'ing no matter where you are
18:26.20Cryectno
18:26.23chutwigseveral different tanks
18:26.34hypetechright, assist the tank killing the mob you are supposed to kill first
18:26.34PeoiiYou know what functionality I'd kill for?   /target [raidicon=star]
18:26.41chutwigyeah, that'd be real nice
18:26.43hypetechPeoii: that's what we just said :p
18:26.49vodrinmeh, in a 25man raid tanks rarely change target mid combat
18:26.50chutwigi'd make another bartender bar and just write macros for every single one
18:26.58CryectThey aren't giving it to us without taking away being able to set raid markers via code
18:27.00Peoiimeh sorry :P  Was killing doomwalker :/
18:27.04hypetechvodrin: no, I mean after the first target is dead
18:27.12Mudkipzor your raid leader can assign raid icons on top of the targets and setup a kill order :P
18:27.15Mudkipzbut that's just me
18:27.25chutwigit's not about the kill order
18:27.27chutwigi know the kill order
18:27.31hypetechMudkipz: we're not talking about kill order, we're talking about targetting
18:27.36chutwigit's just hard to target the right one with a lot of people around it, other mobs, etc
18:27.38CryectANyways you assist with your assist not with your tank since tanks often are changing their targets to stuff you shouldn't be hitting
18:27.52Mudkipzchutwig, i'm used to it
18:27.54hypetechCryect: well you don't spam /assist
18:27.58chutwigright now i just select the frame for the rogue who's MAing and assist him
18:27.59Mudkipztry tanking the murlocs before morogrim
18:28.05chutwigoh those murlocs are so much fun
18:28.06hypetechuse /assist on your tank with half a brain and you'll be fine
18:28.09Mudkipzit's like a huge zergfest to get aggro on the warriors
18:28.29hypetechit is better to have an MA though, makes life easy
18:28.29Cryecthypetech whats wrong with just using the person you set to assist?
18:28.39Mudkipzya main assist is a good idea :P
18:28.44hypetechCryect: okay, what if you are the MA?
18:28.56Mudkipz^ tough luck l2p
18:28.56Cryectyou should know what you are attacking without assisting tanks :-p
18:29.11Cryectbecause you often might be using different orders through the tanks
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18:29.20Cryectbecause certain tank types are better at tanking different targets
18:29.23hypetechright...but we're not talking about not knowing kill order, we're talking about targetting issues
18:29.27hypetechpay attention :p
18:29.28Cryectbut you might want to kill them in a different order
18:29.41Peoiiwe almost always use the same set of MA's in raids, so I just modify my fireball macro to /assist MA; /cast fireball
18:30.05Peoiithen it auto-reassists if we switch fairly quickly ;)
18:30.32liquiemor just know how to kill stuff in which order :/
18:30.38MudkipzI've noticed that I can no longer target stuff thru walls
18:30.46Mudkipzand mobs that are far far away
18:30.51Peoiioh, I know how to kill in the right order, I'm just lazy =)
18:30.56Mudkipzeven tiny tip window doesn't pop up for them
18:31.03PeoiiVirtue of being a mage again.  Stand back and pewpewpew
18:31.13hypetechliquiem... lol it's not about kill ord....oh forget it
18:31.17hypetechI give up :p
18:33.05liquiemdidnt see that line. but i wonder what the problem is. big fat raid icons, tab, mouse click, all for targeting purpose
18:34.12hypetechIf you had a pull of 15 mobs all grouped so close that you couldn't reliably click on screen to the target with your icon, and you didn't have time to tab target 15 times, what do you do then? I'm just saying there should be a more efficient way to target raid icon targets.
18:34.13liquiemand btw.. tidewalker murlocs.. dont focus, ae instead
18:34.18CIA-2203phyber 07Ace2 * r38138 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
18:34.18CIA-22KC_Items:
18:34.19CIA-22- Hopefully Kaelten won't mind this.
18:34.19CIA-22- Added toggles for AuctionSpy and SellValues modules, along with localised strings for the options.
18:34.19CIA-22- Added 11th category to the AuctionSpy module. You can now scan everything again.
18:34.19CIA-22- Bumped TOC to 20100 and commented out the Fence_Wipe module. No need for two reset buttons.
18:34.25Imp4kTAnyone know much about Skinner?
18:34.26Imp4kTTo have an Addon skinned, move or copy its file from AddonSkins into SkinMe, then Exit and restart, the Addon will then be skinned :)
18:34.34Imp4kTWhen it says "its file" which file does it mean :/
18:35.01Gngskthe lua file
18:35.45Gngskgo to the addonskins folder, copy a file there to the skinme folder
18:35.46Gngskvoila
18:35.47CIA-2203gameyuan * r38139 10simpleMinimap/modules/ (7 files):
18:35.47CIA-22simpleMinimap:
18:35.47CIA-22- Fix modules zhTW Translations
18:35.58liquiemfor example, acp has a acp.lua that you can copy and acp will be skinned after retart. it's like a description file what skinner has to do with that window
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18:38.13Mudkipzwhy is there no download for postal in wowinterface?
18:41.35phyberbecause the author didn't upload it there?
18:41.39hyperChipmunkhttp://files.wowace.com
18:41.49hyperChipmunkit's the one called BulkMail2
18:41.58Gngskwhy doesn't ace2 mods make toast for me in the morning?
18:42.04GngskhyperChipmunk, lol
18:42.13hyperChipmunkdon't worry about the different name
18:42.21hyperChipmunkthat's the one you want
18:42.34Mudkipz~.~
18:42.56Mudkipzi'll try it when i get the chance
18:42.56Mudkipzmmmmmk?
18:47.31Punkie`Gngsk: Because the bread is LoD
18:50.17CIA-2203celellach * r38140 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua Reputation/rep.lua):
18:50.17CIA-22AtlasLoot:
18:50.17CIA-22- Loot improvements
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18:55.11FISKER_Qhttp://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_060207_205416.jpg
18:55.28FISKER_QShould change bars with chatframes right? :P
18:56.26Ominouscan addons still auto equip when you mount?
18:56.31shieldbyep
18:56.57zoktaris there any combatlog parser that can have one window just monitor one spell or effect?
18:57.54kebinusanhttp://www.kingsolomon.com/toons/billbord/handfist.jpg
18:58.13kebinusanhttp://www.kingsolomon.com/toons/billbord/billbord.htm actually
18:58.36Bayidoes anybody knows anything about the new daily quest system (specially what changes QuestLogQuestCount in QuestLogFrame, and how) ?
18:58.49Silviu-Does Riding Crop work with flight form ? ;)
18:58.58JaxonNo
18:58.59Bayino :)
18:59.09Mudkipzyou get a flight form riding crop
18:59.15Mudkipzas you go through the questline :P
18:59.16Bayibut in the questline u get an item that works
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18:59.34Silviu-Well i just made 68
18:59.35Silviu-;p
18:59.40Silviu-Not the 70 i mean ;)
18:59.54Bayithen u must wait a bit more :)
18:59.56Mudkipzo lord
19:00.00Bayi+5000g
19:00.02Silviu-:P
19:00.05Mudkipzi'd rather use my epic mount that old flightform haha
19:00.14Mudkipzthan*
19:00.25Mikkget epic flightform
19:00.35Mikkinstant switch to +280% ftw
19:01.01Silviu-Soon .. :P
19:02.00FISKER_QI can't resize bigwigs bars ?
19:02.14hypetechhttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/bifuu.jpg
19:02.16hypetechlol
19:02.16Silviu-3k gold on main, 1k gold here ... + blade edge`s + netherstorm+ shadowmoon quests :)
19:02.41Silviu-Strange font
19:02.42Silviu-;)
19:02.48[FH]Birdemaniis anyone getting graphical errors with tiny tip? on some people the pvp info (times killed/honor) is outside and under the box
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19:10.52hypetechwow...my guildie just asked "Is it possible that my monitor is really shitty and is causing my low FPS?"
19:11.31Thorgard^2Nice. ;P
19:11.33Icerothwell i suppose of it has a refresh rate of 10 hz or something :p
19:11.48Icerothand vsync is on
19:11.50Thorgard^2Tell him the cable going from his computer to the monitor might be too thin, it's not letting enough FPSs through.
19:12.52hypetechThorgard^2: he just asked me where to get a new cable -.-
19:13.06Thorgard^2You're kidding, right?
19:13.13hypetechno -.-
19:13.16Thorgard^2haha
19:13.21Thorgard^2Awesome. ;P
19:14.35Arrowmastercould somebody delete this post http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6498.0
19:14.48Arrowmasterand ban the poster
19:15.23Mudkipzhypetech, send him to bestbuy
19:15.26Mudkipzso they can rip him off
19:15.36hypetechlol
19:16.15IcerothArrowmaster, what's in the zip?
19:16.43Arrowmastermalware i assume
19:16.46Arrowmasterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108241705&sid=1
19:17.14Arrowmasterthere was 2 posts on wowace but it looks like one got deleted already
19:17.35Finpff
19:17.37Mudkipzzomg keylogger
19:17.48Finit's a repackaged version of WAU, looks like
19:17.54Mudkipzlol
19:17.57Finbut with a couple of extra DLLs: DevIL.dll
19:18.00Mudkipz"downlord"
19:18.04FinDevIL.NET.dll
19:18.11Fingosh I wonder what they could do
19:18.11Mudkipzfirst warning right there
19:18.21Finperhaps I'll run it and find out
19:18.47Arrowmasteranother warning is that his email is meihongxuhuI@yahoo.com
19:18.50sbuno virus found... hm
19:19.15FinDevIL.dll last updated 2004-05-28
19:19.22Icerothhmm.. the dll is some image lib if the name is what it should be
19:19.50Icerothguess i'll find dig up my reflector and take a look
19:20.01Finhuh, turns out DevIL "stands for DEVeloper's Image Library"
19:20.24Finwhat's the "patcher.exe" included with it, though?
19:20.25Mudkipzits a tarp
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19:21.02FISKER_QSponsoring Registrar:                        ONLINENIC, INC. D/B/A CHINA-CHANNEL.COM
19:21.03FISKER_Qi lol'd
19:21.32Ominousits not possible to do a hook to focus somethng when you cast certain abilities it is?
19:21.39Ominouss/it is/is it/
19:22.35*** join/#wowace vid` (i=user@c-68-36-197-141.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
19:22.35FISKER_Qdid they fake the registration or what? :D
19:22.44FISKER_QBilling Contact Address1:                    Washington
19:22.44FISKER_QBilling Contact City:                        Washington
19:22.44FISKER_QBilling Contact State/Province:              Washington
19:22.49FISKER_Qi lol'd
19:23.03FISKER_Qwashington isn't even a state
19:23.19Mudkipzit is a state
19:23.22Mudkipz-_-
19:23.23Megalonit is?
19:23.31hypetechhahahahahaha
19:23.32Megalonand Washington D.C.
19:23.32FISKER_QWashington D.C. is the state isn't it?
19:23.33hypetechhahaha
19:23.34Megalonis the city
19:23.36Mudkipzseattle, washington
19:23.36FISKER_Qdoh
19:23.37Mudkipzseattle, washington
19:23.39FISKER_Qthen the other way around
19:23.45Mudkipzor is it seatle **
19:23.45FISKER_Qi always get it wrong
19:23.47FISKER_QLALALA
19:23.48Mudkipzlolidunno
19:23.51hypetechwow fisker...just wow
19:23.53Thorgard^2Oh man.
19:24.07Thorgard^2You all sucketh. ;P
19:24.10FISKER_Qhey atleast i can find the US on the map
19:24.19FISKER_QNot like the people in the US can brag about that
19:24.21hypetechwell it's pretty big....
19:24.28Mudkipzlmao
19:24.34Megaloneven US american's
19:24.39Megaloncan find the US on the map
19:24.41Megalonso...
19:24.44Mudkipzomg this is too good
19:24.46Megalonor at least 10% can
19:24.47hypetechcan you find raleigh, northc carolina on a map?
19:24.52Mudkipzmade my day so far, keep going!
19:24.55hypetechlol
19:24.56FISKER_QI doubt it
19:25.08Finwhat is this "US" you speak of?
19:25.09Arrowmasterand it does have these large words that say 'United States of America' on the map
19:25.19FISKER_QBut again i'm not from the US so i would have like zero chance
19:25.32FISKER_QBut atleast i can pinpoint many countries on a map pretty accurately :P
19:25.41Mudkipzwelcome to 3rd grade
19:25.48FISKER_QWhich i've seen that some US citizens can't :P
19:26.02Mudkipz(-_\\\)
19:26.23ckknightI doubt other countries are all that better
19:26.25Mudkipzi've also met some christians that can't recite the 10 commandments
19:26.33FISKER_Qwell of course
19:26.34Mudkipzwhats your point
19:27.02ckknightMudkipz: Most of the christians I've met don't understand that their 10 commandments are totally out of context to the real ones.
19:27.09Chompersce\AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Pet.lua line 197:   attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'threat' (a nil value)
19:27.21BankZI wish WAU would tell you if there were updates, lets you reading the notes and then pick if you wanted to update
19:27.22Mudkipzthey have their own?
19:27.23FISKER_QPoint is that it's pretty stupid to mock my geographical knowledge of the USA when i live in Denmark :D
19:27.28Mudkipzwtf!
19:27.28Arrowmasterchristians that goto church every week? or christians that call themselves christians but dont really goto church or open a bible?
19:27.43FISKER_Qespecially considered that some people in the US can't even find their own country on the map, if the names are taken away
19:28.00Mudkipzhaha oh lord
19:28.02Mudkipzi'm going to die
19:28.07Mudkipzplease stop
19:28.16sbuhm interesting
19:28.19Bibi`ouFFISKER_Q : you couldn't even find the map.
19:28.27Bibi`ouFstfu. :(
19:28.27FISKER_Qtrue
19:28.28sbuviolation shows higher numbers than swstats
19:28.34sbuso i guess its more accurate? :p
19:28.35ckknightMudkipz: yes, the Christians basically misread the bible and use the wrong ten
19:28.45Mudkipzwhat's their version?
19:28.46Bibi`ouFif you've got too much free time FISKER_Q, advertise my site !
19:28.51Mudkipzi would like to see this
19:29.02Icerothany idea what that patcher.exe is? the code is obfuscated
19:29.03FISKER_Qwww.mmo-champion.com !
19:29.09Bibi`ouFthanks.
19:29.15aen`http://www.wdef.com/video/extra_coverage/managergoeswild.asf
19:29.15ckknightMudkipz: The Christian version comes from Exodus 20, which Moses didst break
19:29.19Bibi`ouFyou could add something like "OMG EXCLUSIVITY : Essence of Soul loot table available"
19:29.30FISKER_Qso you downloaded obvious malware to check if it was malware?
19:29.43Bibi`ouF"free sex" may help too
19:29.48ckknightthe Hebrew (real) version, comes from Exodus 34
19:30.00FISKER_Qbtw now we're at it what does the "D.C." stand for
19:30.01CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r38141 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua:
19:30.01CIA-22Threat-1.0: Pet Class Module
19:30.02CIA-22- pre-emptive return of AddSkillThreat when threat is nil
19:30.32kergothIndustrial, http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/sshots/sshot_10.png.html - check my firefox, finally got it configured nicely again :)
19:30.41MudkipzDC means District of Columbia :P
19:30.41Ominouswhats the smallest addon for just equipping a crop when mounting, i dont need anything with items sets etc
19:30.43FISKER_QIt was obviously my failure to remember those 2 initials that determined my statement about Washington as a state btw
19:30.51ckknight1. Thou shalt worship no other god (For the Lord is a jealous god). 2. Thou shalt make thee no molten gods. 3. The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep in the month when the ear is on the corn. 4. All the first-born are mine. 5. Six days shalt thou work, but on the seventh thou shalt rest. 6. Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, even of the first fruits of the wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end. 7. T
19:30.54JaxonOminous: I use Mount Me
19:31.15FISKER_Q"All the first-born are mine" O_o
19:31.23hyperChipmunk...
19:31.26FISKER_QHows that supposed to be interpreted?
19:31.39Mudkipz4?? LOL
19:31.46Mudkipz#4 all your base are belong to us imo
19:31.52ckknightbasically.
19:31.53hyperChipmunkall thy babes are belong to us
19:32.01hyperChipmunkbah
19:32.11ckknightThe Lord thy God owns all the first-born, they are his, the most important among the family
19:32.26ckknightwhich is why God had the right to slay them in Egypt, for instance
19:32.59trhkergoth: hehe.. "banned from #oe irc channel"
19:35.36kergothgeorge france and handhelds.org can kiss my ass
19:35.44hastemy firefox is completly teared to pieces
19:35.48kergothOminous, i'm using.. whats it called.. simplemountequip or somesuch
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19:37.26trhkergoth: i only know the channel because a friend of mine ("tmbinc") is on it =)
19:37.35ckknighthttp://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/What10.htm
19:37.37kergothah.
19:37.51kergothi started oe, that email thread is about me banning someone from the channel
19:37.52kergothheh
19:38.02trhkergoth: ya, i guessed so =)
19:38.04Ominouskergoth: is that on the svn or do i have to stop being lazy and go to an addon site
19:38.14trhkergoth: but it's still funny ;)
19:38.21kergothi think i got it from a site.. maybe theres one on the svn, but i dunno of one
19:39.09Ominousohh it can be done in my mount macro :)
19:42.51dodgizzlaUI Central.exe: Trojan.QQPass-66 FOUND   lels :>
19:43.31*** join/#wowace Loriel (i=KekVSLBm@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de)
19:43.56LorielIs there a builtin functio or one provided by ace that allows me to copy an entire table without writing my own loop?
19:45.10Finhttp://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/string.dump
19:45.16Finwait! I take that back
19:45.19Finthat's for functions
19:45.25Finwhiiiich
19:45.39Finno, no, I'm going to shut up now
19:46.56LorielI just want to do the equivalent of local t = {} for k, v in pairs(t_) do t[k] = v end without actually doing that.
19:47.20Mikkjust do it? =P
19:47.33Mikkprolly be something in one of the utility libs
19:47.37Mikkbut none in the standard ones
19:47.54Mikkand "copy an entire table" isn't that easy anyway, usually
19:48.05kergothunless you have nested tables and want them copied as well or something, just do the loop and copy it yourself.  how you want it copied depends on circumstances
19:48.09Mikkdo you just want to copy the first level? what if there's children? keep refs of copy them too?
19:48.22LorielIt is a very simple table :(
19:48.28Yinchieanyone here know how to change the wow default screenshot format? like tga instead jpg
19:48.32kergoththen do it yourself.
19:48.47Finhttp://lua-users.org/wiki/CopyTable
19:49.40yacoobdoes anyone here uses newest (2.0.0.4) firefox + adblock and has his ff hanging on gmail?
19:49.42MikkYinchie: http://www.wowwiki.com/screenshot
19:50.02FISKER_Qget IE yacoob
19:50.03FISKER_Qhaha
19:50.04FISKER_Qi win
19:50.27yacoobget away, FISKER_Q. Before I hurt you, that is. :)
19:50.33kergothi'm using newest and adblock and have gmail working fine, if that helps :P
19:50.40yacoobkergoth, that helps. :)
19:51.27yacoobadblock or adblock+?
19:51.28IcerothscreenshotQuality, is bigger better? and what's the max?
19:51.39YinchieMikk: thanks alot mate
19:51.43ArrowmasterIceroth: 10
19:51.47kergothwhat's X-LoadOn-Always?  what addon manager is that?
19:51.50kergothyacoob, +
19:52.01kergothoh, forklift
19:56.23Finhttp://scaryduck.blogspot.com/search/label/Condensed%20films
19:56.38FinChief Brody: Hello. I am police chief Martin Brody and I am excellent. We appear to have a bit of a shark problem in this otherwise bustling beach resort.
19:56.41FinMayor: No. No we don't.
19:56.44FinBrody: Yes. Yes we do.
19:56.45FinMayor: No. No we don...
19:56.45FinBrody: ONOZ!!!111 SHARK! Get out of the water! SHARK! Oh. Sorry.
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20:00.04ckknightlol, Fin
20:01.09Itankstuff<PROTECTED>
20:01.28Keiaslol might wanna change that Itankstuff :P
20:01.29sbuuhm
20:01.41Itankstuffignore that
20:01.42Pucmelnice password
20:01.44sbuand thats a bad password!
20:01.50Itankstuffdude its for IRC
20:01.59FinItankstuff: ignore what?
20:02.05Itankstuffwhy did a space get in there
20:02.06Itankstuffsigh
20:02.14Itankstuff<PROTECTED>
20:02.18Keiasthats why I type stuff like that in the status window
20:02.27sbuwonder if the password works for your email as well... *hides* :p
20:02.27Itankstuffyeah it wouldn't let me
20:02.31Itankstufffor some reason
20:02.34Itankstuffnah
20:02.39Itankstuffdiffrent password
20:02.39NightHawkTheSaneI have clients that do it for me. >.>
20:03.34sbuNightHawkTheSane: your clients also steal other people's pie!
20:03.46NightHawkTheSanesbu: it does, it's a good client.
20:03.52sbuoh hm
20:03.53sbuwtb
20:04.36Mudkipzdid you know
20:04.44[FH]Birdemaniso is omen/threat workign in such a manner that i can dump ktm and have threat work with everyone else that is using ktm ?
20:04.47Mudkipzif you type your password in it, it comes out like this **********
20:04.52Mudkipzgo ahead try it
20:05.11Finyou've been reading bash.org too much
20:05.45Mudkipzi've been found
20:06.02NightHawkTheSane[FH]Birdemani: no. KTM wont get any Threat-1.0 data, yet.
20:06.18*** join/#wowace Galka__ (n=Galka@pool-71-172-139-192.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
20:06.30sbubut unless your are a tank that doesnt matter ;p
20:08.07[FH]Birdemanithanks night
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20:09.05ckknightinteroperability is a two-way street
20:09.51ckknight<PROTECTED>
20:10.15MikkKTMs format isn't enough for multi-target threat
20:10.20MikkSo that's that one out the window
20:10.29ItankstuffKTM won't support it
20:11.01ItankstuffIf you saw all the hate about WoWace from him on the curse comments section. He isn't going to code for it.
20:11.19Kemayo_Ooo, drama.  How surprising.
20:12.00NightHawkTheSaneer.. did we see it? Half the people involved in said discussion are in this channel, so It's a good bet we were aware. And it really wasn't hate. Most people were just trying to offer advice and explain.
20:12.08MikkWell.. 30x CPU utilization and a horrid GUI says KTM interoperability will be a non-issue a month from now
20:12.16ItankstuffIs there a mod that can create timerbars with a slash command that I am not aware of?
20:12.40Mikkbigwigs can... but that's only loaded in raids normally
20:12.42ckknightsteps that must be done:
20:12.53NightHawkTheSaneMikk: nah, the number of people who hang on to the idiotic tag line of "who cares how much cpu it uses when im not doing any thing" won't care how bad ktm is.
20:12.56ckknight1) get it "done" code-wise
20:13.00ckknight2) advertise up the wazoo
20:13.19Mikk3) get tanks to switch. then everyone else has to :-P
20:13.28ckknightah, quite true.
20:13.40NightHawkTheSaneItankstuff: quartz can create timer bars
20:13.43Mudkipz4)????
20:13.45Peoii2a) sneak threat-1.0 into ORA somehow, such that more people will automagically (tm) have threat.
20:13.46Mudkipz5) PROFIT!!
20:14.02NightHawkTheSanePeoii: er, no?
20:14.05ItankstuffNighthawkthesane, ty
20:14.21MikkNah.. oRA specifically doesn't want to be a all-in-one-bloat package
20:14.31MikkThen we could just have stuck with CTRA
20:14.38Mudkipzhahaha
20:14.40ckknightone interesting thing about AceComm is that the spec is completely open, yet no one else has the capacity or determination to implement it, so it is extremely hard to peek into AceComm-2.0 transcripts without having AceComm-2.0 itself
20:14.49Peoiioh I know, I'm just... yea. argh, getting some of my guildies to use an addon is like pulling eye teeth
20:14.53hypetechso how's omen coming along?
20:15.09ckknightum... PitBull needs Threat-1.0, right? to um... tell what threat you're at
20:15.18ckknightactually... maybe I should allow DogTag-1.0 to support Threat-1.0
20:15.24ckknight[Threat]
20:15.24Industrialkergoth: http://i17.tinypic.com/6bvdgu9.png :-)
20:15.31NightHawkTheSanePeoii: yeah, i know how that is, *shrug* like Mikk said, get your tank using it, everyone else doesn't matter.
20:15.37sbuckknight: hm...
20:15.42Kemayockknight: Pitbull needs Quixote-1.0, too.  Because of pie.
20:15.44Mudkipzhmm
20:15.58MikkSpeaking of tag compiling etc
20:16.05ckknightKemayo: Quixote is good, but I don't think I can justify putting it in PitBull unless PitBull/DogTag gets some kind of thing that uses it
20:16.16Finactually
20:16.19Mudkipzthey might as well add Threat 1.0 to bartender 3 to show threat
20:16.28MikkWhat do you guys mean by "compiling tags"?
20:16.28FinI personally would appreciate a Pitbull threat module
20:16.38Mikkloadstring(autogenned_code) ?
20:16.43Mikk^ should be pretty fast
20:16.43ckknightyep.
20:16.46Mikkmkay
20:16.48ckknightthat's it, Mikk
20:16.49Mudkipzmaybe some 40 AP next version too
20:16.49sbuand flashing buttons "do not use this spell if you dont want to pull aggro from tank"? :p
20:16.50Finif you could have a bar that showed your threat vs the person you were healing... that would be neat
20:16.59Iceroththe main tank frame threat idea was pretty good imo
20:17.04Kemayockknight: This is fair.  I suppose I could knock up something into DogTag that would give you a tag for the number of quests you share with that unit.  But it would be kinda gratuitous.
20:17.10Finunderneath the castbar, or something
20:17.10ckknightMikk: basically, [CurHP] translates into loadstring("return UnitHealth('player')"), roughly
20:17.14MikkFin: healing threat is global
20:17.18hypetechso what does DogTag do?
20:17.21FinMikk: que
20:17.29ckknighthypetech: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0
20:18.01MikkFin: If you have three mobs being tanked, you only really care about the _lowest_ threat tank, regardless of which of them you're healing
20:18.32KemayoAlso, I should really optimize Quixote.
20:19.58Mikkckknight: "Foo [CurHP] bar [Somethingelse]" = loadstring("format("Foo %s bar %s", UnitHealth(), UnitBlah())") ?
20:19.58FinMikk: fair point... so how about a bar that showed up on mouseover with your current threat, and one that showed the threat of whoever the mob is currently targetting?
20:20.05Finlike, Target of Focus
20:21.09ckknightMikk: actually it turns into roughly loadstring([[local t = new(); t[#t+1] = "Foo "; t[#t+1] = UnitHealth("player"); t[#t+1] = " bar "; t[#t+1] = SomethingElse("player"); local s = table.concat(t); del(t); return s]])
20:21.25AntiarcAfternoon folks
20:21.27ckknightmorning, Antiarc
20:21.35Finmouseover shows your threat vs. that target, focus or MT frame shows MT normal stats, target of MT or focus shows threat for target's target
20:21.39Finhum
20:21.49Finnot that I'm offering to make it
20:22.02Finnever used threat meters personally anyway
20:22.29kebinusanYou could maybe add threat relative to targets target or somethign to a tooltip I spose, I dunno
20:23.24ckknighthey Antiarc, I want to sneak Threat-1.0 into PitBull due to deviousness. Any thoughts?
20:23.24Mikkckknight: hrmz... format() would be a heck of a lot faster
20:23.24ckknightMikk: the complexities of the code prevent that from happening
20:23.24Antiarcckknight: The more people have it installed the more people share threat data!
20:23.25kebinusanckk, plug it into banzai to give a pre-warning :-)
20:23.25ckknightAntiarc: DogTag support for Threat-1.0
20:23.25Antiarcckknight: I might worry about addon spam, but that's still on the to-look-at list
20:23.25ckknightKebinusan: also that.
20:23.25kebinusanor dogtags yah
20:23.38AntiarcThreat is pretty chatty right now
20:23.42ckknightMikk: because for stuff like [CurHP:Negate] or when you get into conditionals, it just complicates matters up the wazoo
20:23.50CIA-2203kemayo * r38142 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: X-Embeds, because I like my automatic dependency installation, kthx.
20:24.25Kemayockknight: How about a module that highlights the people with the highest and second-highest threat?
20:24.45ckknightKemayo: potentially. I do think something in DogTag would be useful, though
20:24.55Antiarcckknight: For the most part, I'm all for a higher Threat distribution
20:25.24ckknightAntiarc: still wondering, though, for DogTag-1.0, what would [Threat] return? because of the multitarget stuff, it's complex
20:25.33kebinusanI could see having a bar similar to a cast bar showing your threat with the expectation that if the bar filled completely you'd steal aggro or something on a unitframe
20:25.34ckknightI was thinking of just yanking Omen's code
20:25.44vodrinwhat would happen if someone was running pitbull with threat-1.0 sneaked in, and also ktm ?
20:25.58ckknighthrm, yea, what does happen in that case?
20:25.58vodrinbroadcast wise
20:26.12Antiarcvodrin: They'd report both, Threat clients would use their Threat data, KTM clients would use their KTM data
20:26.26Mikkkebinusan: oooooooh yeah, bar under target that tells you % of your threat vs ToT's threat
20:26.30AntiarcKTM interop and KTM/Threat side-by-side are already supported
20:26.36kebinusanmikk ya
20:26.37vodrinroger that
20:26.41vodrinsneak it in please then ^_^
20:26.43MikkVERY nice
20:26.52Antiarcckknight: I think that [Threat] would need to be an attribute of a hostile target, not of yourself
20:26.52ckknighthey Antiarc, thought about having Threat-1.0 switch off when not in a party or anything like that?
20:27.02Antiarcckknight: Yeah, just haven't gotten to it yet.
20:27.03vodrinhunters
20:27.06Kemayockknight: [Threat] could work telling you your threat against the unitframe it's on, so it would only make sense on targets.
20:27.18ckknightAntiarc: I was thinking about putting it on party members
20:27.19Hjalteckknight, I really like the idea of somehow having threat added as a lib for Pitbull :)
20:27.19AntiarcWhat Kemayo  said
20:27.21kebinusanI dont know that you really need to be so subversive about it, but can you think of a good reason to have it on a unitframe
20:27.22vodrinswitch off when pet not out/ungrouped i guess
20:27.27AntiarcHm.
20:27.34Kemayockknight: And then you could have [HighestThreat], telling you the number you really don't want to beat.
20:27.37AntiarcYou'd need to give it a parameter
20:27.39ckknightyou know what's awesome? Threat can actually _be_ a library, not an external addon
20:27.40AntiarcThreat:target
20:27.45AntiarcYup :D
20:27.58CIA-2203grayhoof * r38143 10EavesDrop/ (EavesDrop.lua EavesDrop.toc readme.txt): EavesDrop: fixed some issues with summary calculations
20:28.02ckknightso stuff like PitBull can use it
20:28.05ckknightand not feel bad
20:28.06vodrinjust make 3 textures, <3, :|, :@
20:28.09ckknightThreat:target?
20:28.13vodrinfor how much the mob is likely to attack you
20:28.14vodrin^_^
20:28.39CIA-2203grayhoof * r38144 10sct/ (7 files): sct: Fixed some minor bugs with SharedMedia and Messages.
20:28.41Antiarc[Threat:target] would return threat for that unit on your target
20:28.50kebinusanYou could do funky stuff with drdamage mabe to determine if your next chance has the probablility of you stealing aggro maybe
20:28.52ckknight[Threat#target], actually
20:28.58kebinusan*next attack
20:28.58ckknightbut, okay
20:29.03AntiarcI'm not up on DogTag's syntax :P
20:29.04ckknightI'll add it and see what I can come up with
20:29.13CIA-2203grayhoof * r38145 10sct_options/localization.tw.lua: sct_options: Fixed some minor bugs with SharedMedia and Messages.
20:29.26AntiarcThreat#mt1-target would be good too
20:29.32AntiarcThat would need knowledge of MTs though
20:29.48vodrinToT-target
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20:29.54fixtzekebinusan i thought of the same thing
20:30.02sag_ich_nichtmhm
20:30.06fixtzecalculating possible threat-pulling based on average dmg of the next cast
20:30.07CIA-2203grayhoof * r38146 10sctd/ (localization.lua readme.txt sctd.lua sctd.toc): sctd: Fixed minor bugs with Share Media. Added option to turn off custom events for SCTD only.
20:30.16vodrinso just a diff in threat between you and tot on the unitframe
20:30.34CIA-2203iceroth * r38147 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua: IceHUD: Fixed frame level problem in buff timers
20:30.47CIA-2203grayhoof * r38148 10sctd_options/ (8 files): sctd_options: Fixed minor bugs with SharedMedia. Added option to turn off custom events for SCTD only.
20:30.52Mikkif you're playing with "can you next spell get you aggro", you're too close already
20:31.34fixtzenah
20:31.37fixtzethen you are just close enough =)
20:31.46AntiarcDamn, the arena fists are hot.
20:32.12Mikkand then you're a warlock
20:32.16AntiarcI keep killing things to ofast.
20:32.18Mikkand your next SB lands you at MT threat - 1 pt
20:32.28Mikkthen your DoT ticks
20:32.35Mikkoops
20:32.38sag_ich_nichtMikk: i'm getting an error in ChatThrottleLib from time to time: Error:  bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got table)
20:32.38sag_ich_nichtAddOn: ChatThrottleLib
20:32.38sag_ich_nichtFile: ChatThrottleLib.lua Line: 454
20:32.38sag_ich_nichtCount: 1
20:32.53sag_ich_nichtmeh
20:32.53fixtzeNO
20:32.53fixtzeno
20:32.53sag_ich_nichtwhy the hell did it make the linebreaks now, i removed them in wordpad >_<
20:32.59fixtzeyou need 130% ranged threat to pull aggro
20:33.02fixtzeat like 20 y isnt it
20:33.03CIA-2203ckknight * r38149 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc libs/): PitBull - add Threat-1.0 to libs and TOC. no code uses it yet, but soon it will.
20:33.14vithosdon't use wordpad to edit plaintext files :P
20:33.17Mikkfixtze: rephrase "aggropulling point - 1"
20:33.38vithostry SciTE (or i'm sure others will recommend other editors as well)
20:34.22sag_ich_nicht[22:33] <vithos> don't use wordpad to edit plaintext files :P <--it was copy pasted and i checked in xemacs as well :P
20:34.36vithosah
20:34.53vithosi still wouldn't trust it
20:35.14sag_ich_nichtxemacs should know how to handle breaks ;)
20:35.18hyperChipmunki don't trust emacs, either, for that matter =)
20:35.20Mikksag_ich_nicht: that's not chatthrottlelib's fault. someone's passing tables into SendAddonMessage()
20:35.27Mikkwhen they should be passing strings
20:35.30ckknightnot it
20:35.49ckknightyou could make it check arg types...
20:36.04Mikkyeah i suppose i should
20:36.20sag_ich_nichtMikk: kk... any way to find out what is passing it tables? :O
20:36.33Mikksag_ich_nicht: install !BugGrabber and BugSack
20:36.37Mikkit'll give you a stack trace
20:36.47ckknightsag_ich_nicht: or right before the offending line, put DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(debugstack())
20:36.53ckknightpotentially
20:37.18Mikkif type(target)=="table" then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(debugstack()) end
20:37.38Mikkanyway.. bugsack ftwin.. just install it =)
20:37.47CIA-2203ckknight * r38150 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - forgot to change OptionalDeps/X-Embeds
20:37.53CIA-2203gandharva * r38151 10Fence/modules/Fence_Browse.lua:
20:37.53CIA-22Fence:
20:37.53CIA-22- Localization fix
20:38.32Mikkit's damn nice to not have big ugly error popups in the middle of the screen when some addon decides to go haywire in the middle of an important fight
20:38.47Mikk(and i don't want to disable errors either cause i DO want to know where shit is breaking)
20:38.54sag_ich_nichti already have a addon that should trace the stack, and normally it does, i think the config might have reset :P
20:39.02Mikkah =)
20:39.28sag_ich_nichtyeah config reset... must have happened some time when i was debugging yesterday
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20:44.36grennonanyone used getitemcount? im having problems finding the api documentation for it
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20:46.51CIA-2203gandharva * r38152 10Fence/modules/Fence_Browse.lua:
20:46.51CIA-22Fence:
20:46.51CIA-22- another localization fix
20:49.35CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r38153 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (TrainerFuLocals-deDE.lua TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua): FuBar_TrainerFu: Localization fix for latest change and deDE translation added.
20:50.33NickenyfikenSomeone wanna adopt TrainerFu? :-P
20:50.38Sarozhrrrm, we should put Threat-1.0 into sRF and Grid, to spread it :p
20:51.00fixtzewhat would you have it in grid for?
20:51.03fixtzeand what is sRF?
20:51.09fixtzesimple raidframes?
20:51.20vodrinshouldn't really force its adoption too hard =x
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20:51.25Sarozsame reason to put it in Putull I guess
20:51.30vodrinjust put it in ace2
20:51.39NickenyfikenThreat is in putbill?
20:52.00NickenyfikenPut all Treat code in *.lua
20:52.01fixtzedon't see why party/raid frames would show threat tbh, threatmeters are better for that
20:52.13Saroz22:33:03 | <CIA-22> ckknight * r38149 PitBull/ (PitBull.toc libs/): PitBull - add Threat-1.0 to libs and TOC. no code uses it yet, but soon it will.
20:52.13fixtzei do like how agUF turns frame red when you get aggro though
20:52.30SarozBanzai does that better than Threat will
20:53.06Nickenyfikenoho
20:53.31ckknightThreat and aggro are related
20:53.37ckknightBanzai is great
20:53.44ckknightbut I want the ability to see threat on my party members
20:53.52Saroznumeric?
20:55.33Nickenyfikenhmm
20:56.39NickenyfikenActually the only thing i want to se as a melee DPS is if I am near taking over aggro from my current targets target (usually the tank)
20:57.00AntiarcIf you're a melee DPS raid leader, you want to see everyone's threat ;)
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20:57.13NickenyfikenYup
20:57.42NickenyfikenAnd now that i think about it i want to know if my Threat is > offtank threat
20:58.28NickenyfikenMy weapons suck and i still have to auto attack 75% of the time :-(
21:00.02CyrezIt'd be cool if in a raid the borders of PitBull's frames for all the players glowed based on the amount of threat, and maybe the one holding the highest threat would have their border pulsing as well.
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21:00.51NickenyfikenHmm is KLH data ignored if a player is sending both KLH and ThreatLib threat?
21:01.09CyrezPersonally, I don't think the numbers are as important as who is where on the list. And if you can see that with some sexy eye candy like that, all the spiffier.
21:01.40hyperChipmunki'm not really sure i care about threat numbers
21:01.58Buttinkif i define a function like Testing:DoingStuff() inside of a if statement does that function have the same rules of scope like any other?
21:02.15AntiarcNickenyfiken: Yes
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21:06.19NickenyfikenAntiarc: ok :-)
21:06.54NickenyfikenAny word on when you will fix Sanity? :-)
21:07.24NickenyfikenRight now I'm not sane :-/
21:09.18Lorielself:HookScript(GameTooltip, 'OnTooltipSetItem') am I doing this right
21:09.34boobies4uInterface/AddOns/Prat_Libs/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:2350 Attempts to index local "s" a number value
21:09.48boobies4uguys, i keep getting this errorbox up everytime i enter Arathi Basin, when there is activity in the chat frame
21:09.55boobies4uwhy o why ;-<
21:10.01AntiarcNickenyfiken: When I have time :P
21:10.29ckknightboobies4u: checking it out
21:10.40NickenyfikenAntiarc: oh god please, now i don't know how many linen cloth my alts have :-P
21:10.51boobies4uthanks ckknight
21:11.08boobies4uckknight, it ONLY happends in arathi basin btw, nowhere else
21:11.42ckknightwould you do me a favor?
21:11.47ckknightare you in AB now?
21:12.15boobies4uno
21:12.15boobies4ubut i can join one after this eye of storm
21:12.15ckknightwell, would you mind queuing up?
21:12.15ckknightokay, cool
21:12.15boobies4uwhat do you want me to look for
21:12.15ckknightonce you're in, tell me
21:12.24ckknight<PROTECTED>
21:12.27ckknighttell me what it says
21:12.33boobies4uok
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21:13.21RoartindonAloft will gain Threat-1.0 stuff in the next week or so
21:13.32Roartindon(Just weighing into the Pitbull/Threat thing)
21:13.50yacoobDrats.
21:13.58yacoobPure presence of adblock+ makes my ff hang on gmail.
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21:14.17boobies4uckknight, possible to "copy" lines in prat? :P
21:14.19Nickenyfikenckknight missed a ) in the end :-P
21:14.28ckknightyou're right
21:14.34ckknightboobies4u: I believe so, yes
21:14.38ckknightboobies4u: there's some way
21:14.49Roartindonboobies4u: Yeah, there's a copy-chat module
21:14.59Roartindonthat puts a little icon at the top left of your chat window
21:15.04Roartindonclick on that, select the text, and control-C
21:15.17boobies4uRoartindon, is it in the "package" ?
21:15.52Roartindonit's in the big Prat package
21:16.00Roartindonlet me check it's module name.. one sec.. I thought it was CopyChat
21:16.08Thorgard^2Roartindon, what will Aloft do with Threat-1.0?
21:16.31Finboobies4u: enable the ChatCopy module
21:16.38Finor CopyChat or whatever
21:16.44sbuboobies?
21:16.50Finit'll put a little icon in the top left corner of the chat frame that you can click
21:16.56RoartindonThorgard^2: Tags so that threat text can be shown, a bar for tanks to show their threat lead on units
21:17.08Finbetter yet, install sylvanaar's mighty CopyChat addon
21:17.20AntiarcMan...I LOVE you people.
21:17.22Finbind a key to be able to copy text from under the cursor for any frame
21:17.31AntiarcThis will make, what, 5 different views for Threat?
21:18.03RoartindonAntiarc: How many are there atm?
21:18.04FinThorgard^2: it is indeed CopyChat
21:18.14RoartindonAssessment, Omen, Violation are 3 already
21:18.22Thorgard^2Roartindon, coo'.
21:18.25AntiarcOmen, Violation, Assessment, PitBull (DogTag really), and Aloft
21:18.32NickenyfikenAntiarc: put Treat in Sanity2, that will make it work again!
21:18.36AntiarcHeh.
21:18.46AntiarcNickenyfiken: I accept patches :)
21:18.55Gnarfozyea, if your bags are not sorted well, you'll get aggro
21:18.56Gnarfoz:D
21:18.56ItankstuffAntiarc, I just sent yo a long PM about a sanity 2 issue
21:19.09NickenyfikenWell i want to know if i aggro the bankers
21:19.11AntiarcItankstuff: Yeah, saw it. It got cut off - I replied, but must not be authed
21:19.19AntiarcBasically, it's a known bug and will be fixed when I have time :)
21:19.26boobies4ualways wondered how much memory i should give my addons, i got 2 gig system memory, is giving it 128mb overkill?
21:19.28Silviu-Antiarc u got my 2 whispers with those 2 errors ?
21:19.35AntiarcSilviu-: Sure did, thanks
21:19.39Silviu-No problem
21:19.43Gnarfozboobies4u: there is no limit anymore
21:19.50Gnarfozsince 2.1
21:19.59boobies4uk
21:20.18Itankstuffthanks antiarc
21:20.52Roartindonckknight: Not sure if it's a problem with parser-3.0, or something that I've misunderstood
21:21.12Roartindonwhen casting "remove lesser curse" on myself, I get event type = Dispel, sourceName = false, targetName = <correct>
21:21.23RoartindonI expected sourceName to be my player name
21:21.49ckknightare you removing?
21:21.52Roartindonyes
21:21.56ckknighthrm.
21:22.01RoartindonI got a warlock to curse me with CoE, I cast Remove Lesser Curse on myself
21:22.23ckknightdo you have the whole info table?
21:22.30RoartindonIt also may explain the comments on the violation thread saying that curing is being tallied incorrectly
21:22.45ckknightif so, can I see it?
21:22.52Roartindonckknight: Not right now, I did this yesterday.. let me see if I can get a warlock on to help me.. one sec
21:22.57ckknightthanks
21:23.12ckknighta screenie of it PrintLiteral'd would do
21:23.22RoartindonYeah
21:23.27RoartindonOne sec :)
21:23.54grennoni think the reason i never really improved AutoTurnin is because the easiest way to debug it is to buy stacks of runecloth and turn them into an npc
21:24.01kenlyricautoshoot should show the number of equipped bullets/arrows you have, as a reagent cost.
21:24.05grennonso each attempt costs 2+ Gold to debug
21:24.24RoartindonAutoTurnin works fine for me?
21:24.36RoartindonIt didn't when I had a quest addon that changed the quest text to include a level prefix
21:24.38grennonyes, buts its a brutish nasty little mod
21:24.40RoartindonBut I got rid of that addon:)
21:24.51grennonit doesnt even use GetItemCount
21:25.22grennonbut i just tested it with GetItemCount at the Runecloth turnin guy, this will let me remove the nasty tooltip bag scanning method
21:25.54*** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.176.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk)
21:25.57NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: that'd be hot, but then again, who keeps auto shoot on their action bars? o_0
21:26.16CIA-2203iceroth * r38154 10IceHUD/ (11 files in 5 dirs): IceHUD: SharedMedia <3
21:26.44ckknightI'd say it's greater than 3, Iceroth. You don't know what you're talking about
21:26.59Iceroth:p
21:27.01kenlyricI have it on there, so I can easily turn it back on while arcane shot is on cooldown.
21:27.29CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r38155 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua:
21:27.29CIA-22Babble-2.2:
21:27.29CIA-22- Added Nethercite Ore/Deposit to Babble-Ore
21:27.55boobies4uckknight, in que for ab now
21:27.58Finckknight: do you accept cartographer minor bug / feature requests via IRC? :)
21:28.01ckknightpants
21:28.03kenlyriccan I make a second violation window?
21:28.07ckknightFin: depends
21:28.08Roartindonckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/49034
21:28.22vodrinnot yet kenlyric, heard its planned
21:28.32ckknightRoartindon: and you've updated fully?
21:28.55Finckknight: sometimes my game crashes after I've completed a quest, and quest givers forever appear as having a quest for me
21:29.14Finckknight: it would be nice if the quest status could be rescanned when speaking to a quest guy
21:29.26ckknightin all honesty, I never wrote that module
21:29.59Antiarcckknight: Re this thread - http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12553 - what would you think of making Parser-3.0 not parse combat events until we're fully loaded?
21:30.02Finrighto
21:30.06CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r38156 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Artwork/INV_Ore_Ethernium_01.blp addon.lua):
21:30.06CIA-22Cartographer_Mining:
21:30.07CIA-22- added nethercite quest deposits
21:30.14ckknightRoartindon: figured it out
21:30.18AntiarcI've experienced the same thing at times - try to load during an encounter, and there's way too much happening in combat and I get booted back out
21:30.27RoartindonWait a sec.
21:30.34RoartindonLooks like it's fixed by rophy within the past 24 hours
21:30.35Keiasckknight: would you ever consider including an option to hide Blizz Buff frames using Pitbull?
21:30.46ckknightRoartindon: not quite, I'm fixing it
21:31.09Roartindonokay, great
21:31.17CIA-2203ckknight * r38157 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fix AURADISPELSELF3
21:31.21ckknightKeias: that's been in there since day one
21:31.22Roartindonoh, the failed message works
21:31.26Roartindonthe successful message doesn't
21:31.30ckknightRoartindon: update
21:31.34Roartindonokay
21:31.36boobies4uError: [string(AceLibrary"('AceConsole-2.0'): PrintLiteral((select(3, GetWorldStat..."]:1: ')' expected near '<eof>'
21:31.38Keiasis it a global option or something?  I haven't been able to find it.
21:31.40boobies4uthere ckknight
21:31.48ckknightboobies4u: gah
21:31.55ckknightput another ) at the end
21:31.56AenslaedIs there a mod that lets you increase the max camera distance beyond what is normally allowed?
21:32.18RoartindonAenslaed :There
21:32.22RoartindonThere's a cvar for it I think
21:32.44boobies4uckknight, on the line that has the error?
21:32.55ckknightboobies4u: no, on the /print statement
21:33.03boobies4uah
21:33.28Roartindonckknight: Working now thanks
21:33.28MikkAenslaed: http://www.wowwiki.com/Config.wtf_defaults
21:33.46ckknightRoartindon: one note: sourceID will be false, even though it's you
21:33.49ckknightRoartindon: just how the game is
21:33.53AenslaedMikk: thanks
21:33.59Roartindonckknight: Yeah, that's fine
21:34.03RoartindonJust wanted sourceName to be no-false :)
21:34.11ckknightwell, you're good now
21:35.19CIA-2203roartindon * r38158 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Dispel.lua): Assessment: Enabled Dispel module in .toc now that parsing self dispels seem to be working.
21:35.59ckknightAntiarc: ah, I dunno about that
21:36.41boobies4uerror: [string "AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'): PrintLiteral((..."]:1: Usage: GetWorldStateUIinfo(index)
21:36.43boobies4uthere ckknight
21:36.49ckknightgah
21:37.03CIA-2203antiarc * r38159 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:37.03CIA-22Threat-1.0: Heavy fixes to NPC core, fixed an error in Class Core
21:37.03CIA-22_reduceAllThreat that caused display to not get updated till next target threat
21:37.03CIA-22event, added Firewing Warlock test module; go beat on 'em and threat should
21:37.03CIA-22clear when they run in fear.
21:37.07LorielDoes BabbleClass work with the unlocalised all uppercase strings like WARRIOR?
21:37.15LorielOr only with "Warrior"?
21:37.19ckknight<PROTECTED>
21:37.26ckknightLoriel: lemme check
21:37.28boobies4udo i need to be in AB?
21:37.40ckknightAntiarc: for one, it doesn't use AceEvent, so I can't wait until Ace2_FullyInitialized, instead, I could at best wait till PLAYER_LOGIN, which doesn't do any better than ADDON_LOADED as far as making startup appear faster
21:37.43ckknightyes
21:37.52chutwigwhat addon currently uses threat?
21:38.19RoartindonLoriel: It works with "Warrior".. if you want upper case strings, use BC:GetReverseTranslation(className):upper()
21:38.28ckknightyea, that'd do
21:38.33NightHawkTheSanechutwig: Omen, Assessment, and Violation all utilize Threat
21:38.46LorielI see. Hm, I will rather rework my code to use the localised names myself then.
21:38.47LorielThanks!
21:38.52chutwigNightHawkTheSane: sanks
21:39.10ckknightalso, if you want to change "WARRIOR" => "Krieger", then you can do BC[className:sub(1,1) .. className:sub(2):lower()]
21:39.11Kalman|Aenslaed: On the camera distance thing, there's also oTweaks, which will set the cvars for you.
21:40.01boobies4uckknight, Bases 0, Resource 0/2000 stuff
21:40.09ckknightgah
21:40.14ckknightdid it error on you, there?
21:41.03boobies4uno
21:41.11boobies4uand i havent gotten any error after i wrote that :P
21:41.30ckknighthrm
21:41.31ckknight*shrug*
21:41.35*** join/#wowace josh|ma (n=chatzill@T9c3d.t.pppool.de)
21:41.47boobies4unow i did again
21:41.58boobies4uit just pops up all the time with a few sec inbetween
21:42.10ckknightrun the /print again
21:42.11josh|mahello all
21:42.12sag_ich_nichtmhm
21:42.15ckknighthey josh|ma
21:42.27CIA-2203roartindon * r38160 10Assessment/Modules/ (CombatTime.lua UserInterface.lua): Assessment: Another change to the CombatTime module, UserInterface no longer triggers a titleTexture error when titles are disabled
21:42.29josh|madid anyone hear from MaNGOS
21:42.31sag_ich_nichtokay, this is strange. i'm having a problem with cooldown count, it's working on every bar but MainMenuBar
21:42.36boobies4uckknight, like 2-3 sec after i press "ok" on the error window it re-appears
21:42.39CIA-2203ckknight * r38161 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory-2.0 - potential bugfix
21:42.51ckknightboobies4u: do the goddamn /print command again!
21:43.12boobies4uthe last one?`
21:43.33Roartindon<PROTECTED>
21:43.41sag_ich_nichtit was working before, then WoW crashed and now it's not showing cooldowns on MainMenuBar :(
21:43.51kaidenboobies4u, thou hast angered teh ckknight... 40 lashes promptly
21:43.54boobies4uit prints the resources etc ckknight, in green
21:43.58boobies4uno "error" appears
21:44.06ckknightI don't want a goddamn error
21:44.17boobies4uwell it doesent show one :P
21:44.21boobies4uall i enable bugsack
21:44.21ckknightwhatever
21:44.22ckknightupdate
21:44.23boobies4uand grabber
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21:44.55josh|maI'm devloping an addon with especially for MaNGOS servers and when it's usable I consider to ask if it could get to the svn-repo?
21:45.20ckknightwhat addon would this be?
21:45.24josh|maIt's a gamemaster addon.
21:45.29kaidenjosh|ma, that would be treading on very thin ice
21:45.31ckknighthrm...
21:45.34ckknightyea, I agree
21:45.34sbuhmmm
21:45.36kaideni'm sure they want to stay in the good graces of blizzard
21:45.47sag_ich_nichtyes.
21:45.51josh|maok, it was only an question
21:46.01ckknighthere at #wowace, we have a standoffish view of private servers
21:46.03sag_ich_nichtblizzard considers MaNGOS illegal
21:46.04kaidenjosh|ma, use google's svn repo
21:46.14ckknightwe aren't going to actively try to hurt your work, but we won't condone it
21:46.25ckknightyea, I recommend using googlecode
21:46.36LorielWhat are the advantages of using the svn-repo instead of, say, google code?
21:46.44Fisker-Actually Blizzard has already won in the court over server emulation
21:46.45kaidenyou have access to the svn auto zip
21:46.46josh|mackknight, thanks for your tip
21:46.47ckknightcommunity etc.
21:46.48kaidenthat's about it i think
21:46.52Fisker-atleast once sofar
21:46.56kaidenoh and CIA says HEY he did this to this mod
21:46.57kaidenlol
21:46.58LorielI swear I typed that before google code was mentioned.
21:47.11boobies4uckknight, do i copy glory lib into the prat-lib folder
21:47.18ckknightyou update
21:47.20josh|masag_ich_nicht, where does blizzard consider MaNGOS illegal?
21:47.22ckknightnow, I'm busy
21:47.26ckknightplease don't bother me
21:47.27kaidenFisker-, wont ever matter, it's like trying to stop piracy :)
21:47.32kaidenjosh|ma, go read their ToS
21:47.37Fisker-somewhat kaiden, except harder
21:47.44boobies4ui hate this shit
21:47.46Fisker-As their really is little market for private servers
21:47.52Fisker-In comparison to piracy
21:48.02Fisker-Which actually have the government going "OMGOMG WE LOSE MONEY"
21:48.25CIA-2203gamefaq * r38162 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-deDE.lua:
21:48.25CIA-22Quartz:
21:48.26CIA-22- complete redone deDE Translation
21:48.39kaidenhttp://ace.pastey.net/49050 << private servers illegal
21:48.39Fisker-Anyways you might consider that Blizzard got Bnetd shut down
21:48.40kaidengo read
21:49.02Fisker-Although they're trying to not step in bnetd's steps by calling it a mmo game server instead of a wow game server
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21:49.24fixtzehe i coded on bnet emu software in the old days
21:49.33josh|mathere stands that private servers are illegal but MaNGOS is a learn project and doesn't intend to emulate anything
21:49.52AtriaceHas anyone been encountering this bug:  http://www.axisc.net/bug.jpg    ?
21:49.53*** join/#wowace Cotan_ (n=chatzill@c-71-236-233-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
21:50.06fixtzedamn my DNS-servers are screwed atm
21:50.20kenlyricis there a way to make the xp gain in the middle of the screen go away?
21:50.30kaidenjosh|ma, www.dict.org look up the word emulate
21:50.36WolpertingerAtriace: yes. 2 or 3 times over a week or two
21:50.45AtriaceAny reason or cause?
21:50.47kaidento emulate is to function like the original
21:50.59CIA-2203antiarc * r38163 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Made a fix to prevent OnDisable() from being destructive.
21:51.00WolpertingerAtriace: none i'm aware of
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21:51.11fixtzeDepends on your country does it not, there is no way in Norway that coding a server-emulator would be illegal
21:51.23sbusomeone just disconnected in combat and his threat (ktm) is still here - on every mob :o
21:51.23Atriace<insert common curse word> Blizzard!
21:51.27boobies4uckknight, now i got a new error
21:51.28josh|mayes ok, but allakhazam and all the other item and spell aso sites on the net are illegal too regarding the fact that they took information from the dbc files from WoW
21:51.30Fisker-really doesn't matter though imo
21:51.32*** part/#wowace fesits2k (i=fesits2k@h153n3-sde-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com)
21:51.43AntiarcHrm. I should see about fixing htat.
21:51.48LorielHow expensive is a 'local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("MyAddon")' line? I am considering using a lot of small files to define various undeclared tables, but they all need to be localised and I do not want to significantly slow down loading time :(
21:52.02Kalman|fixtze: Doesn't matter if it's illegal, if it winds up being attacked as breach of contract, which it likely would.
21:52.03CIA-2203pettigrow * r38164 10Babble-2.2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Babble-2.2: frFR Update
21:52.05boobies4uckknight,it worked
21:52.16boobies4uglory works now
21:52.19ckknightLoriel: very, very cheap
21:52.43Cotan_Is there a combat fade mod for bartender?
21:52.49Fisker-josh|ma they might be
21:52.55boobies4unow to test honorFU, it was also broken when i last tested it :P
21:52.57fixtzeThey couldnt here Kalman|, but i guess in the US/UK or similar they would in a heartbeat
21:52.59Fisker-although the majority of those sites get their info legit
21:53.06fixtzei remember the war3 bnetd project
21:53.22Lorielckknight: Thanks :)
21:53.30CIA-2203pettigrow * r38165 10BigWigs/ (Options.lua SC/Leotheras.lua TheEye/Solarian.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update
21:53.37josh|maFisker, ok
21:53.46vodrinyou can take information from the dbc files without signing any contract
21:53.52nevcairielthott once said, that he didnt "want" to use dbc information, but he has to, to actually keep up with other pages.
21:54.19kaidenfixtze, yes it completely depends on your country of origin for your hosting of private servers, however there are ways for blizzard to beat you even in those situations
21:54.23Fisker-Also the only thing they actually seem to care about is unreleased content
21:54.34Fisker-They were pretty pissed about sites datamining the alpha and beta versions of TBC
21:54.41kaidenthey could simply contact your upstream provider and provide them with information and if they deem'd it against their rules they could null route your ip so you couldn't host anything
21:54.46kaidenand i have done it and seen it done many times
21:54.47Fisker-but still that didn't get sites taken down
21:54.59fixtzethey could
21:55.03fixtzebut here that'd NEVER happen
21:55.12kaidenwhere are you located
21:55.15fixtzeNorway
21:55.20kaidenas i just had it done in russia just the other day
21:55.28josh|magermany
21:55.38Fisker-ISP's are scared shitless when they recieve a DMCA notice
21:55.51kaidenand i figure russian b/w providers are much harder to work with than the ones in norway
21:55.55fixtzehere they don't really care, and DMCA is a US law not european
21:55.59fixtzenope
21:56.04Fisker-it's international?
21:56.06kaideneuropean law has it's own equivalent
21:56.15fixtzethe European copyright directive
21:56.17AtriaceIs there a public copy of the current ChatFrame.lua?  This http://www.axisc.net/bug.jpg has got to have a solution.
21:56.19fixtzedoes not cover reverse-engineering
21:56.23fixtzeand creating your own emulation
21:56.25fixtzeafaik
21:56.33fixtzein Norway you have State-regulated organ that regulates personal privacy
21:56.44josh|mabtw: MaNGOS End-User License Agreement
21:56.45josh|maMaNGOS has been built with education as the main target, thus you may only use the source code and binary releases provided by the project for educational purposes. You are not allowed to use MaNGOS for any commercial purpose, and you are not allowed to use MaNGOS for hosting MaNGOS servers for public usage.
21:56.54fixtzeany ISP that even attempts to give out any personal info or get stuffed by nonregulatory laws gets drawn to court
21:56.59Kalman|josh|ma: That won't protect you.
21:57.08ckknightyea, it won't
21:57.23josh|maDid I say that?^^
21:57.44kaidenjosh|ma, that text right there is about as useful as me saying i'm a 7 foot purple 3 toed alient from pluto
21:57.56kaiden-t
21:57.58kaiden;)
21:58.02fixtzeEULA's mean shit aswell
21:58.02josh|ma:D
21:58.04boobies4ukaiden, seriously?
21:58.05fixtzeif they breach national law
21:58.08boobies4ugot webcam?
21:58.16kaidenboobies4u, 5$ first
21:58.27boobies4uall my dollars goes to dogchow, sorry
21:58.44Fisker-that depends on the country, and state fixtze
21:58.47kaidenjosh|ma, i'm simply saying you can't design something specifically for a certain purpose and say oh i'm an angel i didn't mean it to be used that way
21:58.48kaidenand get around it
21:59.03Kalman|fixtze: There's no breach of national law allowing RE if you *voluntarily* sign a contract preventing you from doing so.  It's like an NDA: there's no law against me talking about info, but if I sign a contract saying I won't do so, I can be sued for doing so.
21:59.03fixtzeaye
21:59.05fixtzeI just remember here
21:59.05Fisker-In europe laws are very protective in regards to user agreements/contracts
21:59.10Fisker-but in the US it's a whole other story
21:59.23fixtzeSome record or film-label got drawn to court and deemed they breached Norwegian law for putting "illegal to copy" on DVDs
21:59.24josh|makaiden, yes ok, I agree with you
21:59.27Fisker-But there are some states where they do see the EULA as a legally binding contract, and others where they don't
21:59.31fixtzeso they had to remove stickers
21:59.48fixtzeand Apple got taken by the norwegian government because itunes store uses DRM to interlock music to ipods
21:59.49Fisker-that's what i like about norway :P
22:00.22kaidenyou know what i laugh about quite jolly like in fact..
22:00.23Fisker-Protections are nothing but a consumer nuisance
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22:00.30Dhirmadihey all
22:00.39kaidenApple / Microsoft / etc spend far more money fighting piracy than if they just gave in and let it take it's course
22:00.46fixtzenono
22:00.50kaidenpirates will always pirate
22:00.51fixtzethey do it to create an illusion
22:00.57PeoiiHey now!
22:00.58kaidenhonest people will always purchase what they want
22:01.04Dhirmadiany of you worked with Ace-Comm before?
22:01.05fixtzeIndia and other eastern/asian countries have their whole IT industry built on piracy
22:01.15PeoiiPirates don't always pirate, we raid sometimes too...
22:01.18fixtzeit creates jobs which creates money which creates legit purchaes of the software you work on pirated
22:01.20kaidenPeoii, lol
22:01.34kaidenadobe has the right idea when it comes to piracy
22:01.40NightHawkTheSanePeoii: don't forget the boozing and whoring.
22:01.43kaidenadobe has yet to prosecute ANYONE for pirating their software
22:01.45kaidendo you know why?
22:01.48Kalman|Let users do it, they can't afford the software anyway.
22:01.50Peoiikaiden: http://www.piratesofwarcraft.org/
22:01.58Peoii;)
22:01.59fixtzecause they have the best software and it's software you cant use without paying for it in the industry
22:02.00kaidenbecause you pirate it at home, learn it, use it, then when you get a job as an artist they sak you what you know
22:02.02CIA-2203antiarc * r38166 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE handler to tell our local client to clear that member's threat.
22:02.02fixtzesame goes for Visual Studio
22:02.03kaidenwhat do you say? Adobe
22:02.07kaidenso they run out and buy you adobe
22:02.15fixtzeevery programmingjob ive had has been on MSVisual Studio as the IDE
22:02.22Fisker-I like how valve does it
22:02.23kaidenadobe makes massive profit off of small core pirates
22:02.23fixtzeand of course everytime i get hried they purchase a new license for me
22:02.23Kalman|kaiden: Exactly.  It doesn't hurt that it's also very, very good software.
22:02.34kaidenKalman|, true
22:02.43kaidenMcAfee anti-virus did the same thing back in the day
22:03.01Fisker-Their protection isn't that much about protection the program from being pirated, which means that consumers can much easier backup their games, however it's very hard to get the game before release cause they decide when people can play it
22:03.01kaidenyou could login to ftp.mcafee.com for almost 5 years with the login licensed and the password 123
22:03.05fixtzeit's not only Adobe
22:03.10fixtzeEVERY company profits from piracy
22:03.14fixtzeword of mouth = best advertisement ever
22:03.19Wolpertingercan I force WoW somehow to save its screenshots as TGA again ?
22:03.21kaidenmcafee knew it was there, they accepted that it was there, and they loved it because people would pirate it then turn around and buy the upgrades
22:03.23Kalman|fixtze: Yes, but some of them are too stupid to realize it.
22:03.23Fisker-And being unable to get a game before it's release is a deterrent on pirates imo
22:03.32fixtzeanyone that learns Visual Studio, Adobe, 3dmax etc at home, will make a company buy it when they work with it
22:03.32Fisker-Wolpertinger yeah
22:03.45kaidenimo if they lowered the prices to reasonable rates on some things there would be no piracy of them
22:03.49fixtzeNo Kalman| they have to uphold the anti-piracy due to shareholders and also due to laws and creating an image
22:03.50Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=276788003&sid=1
22:03.56Fisker-anyways gonna get some sleep
22:03.58fixtzeno company will ever go out and say "go pirate us"
22:03.58Fisker-see you
22:04.03kaidenit's absolutely retarded to go spend 70 bucks for a Wii or 360 etc game that i'm gonna play for 6 hours
22:04.06kaidenand never touch again
22:04.06Finnote to self: while it may be possible to bind alt-f1, alt-f2, and alt-f3 in WoW, avoid attempting to bind alt-f4
22:04.08fixtzeLast job i had, our software had simple serial-checks, they were easy to subwert really
22:04.10WolpertingerFisker-: thanks.
22:04.15fixtzebut still it was sufficient
22:04.24WolpertingerFisker-: nite
22:04.28Kalman|fixtze: Right.  Compare that to product activation schemes.
22:04.29Fisker-fixtze the copyright laws do also require you to actually protect your copyright
22:04.39Fisker-so saying  it would probably cause a lot of problems :P
22:04.40kaidenfixtze, yeah there are people on the forefront of technology making leaps and bounds to combat piracy intelligently
22:04.41Dhirmadianyone  on Ace-Comm? got a small question in regards to SetCommPrefix
22:04.42Fisker-anyways night
22:04.52boobies4ukaiden, i dident even play mine for 3
22:04.54fixtzeThe ONLY way to even remotely combat game-piracy
22:05.00fixtzeis by making your software only run on authentication servers
22:05.04fixtzelike WOW and with steam
22:05.05vodrinfisker are you sure ?
22:05.09kaidenthere's a new online webisode that the crew/cast of stargate the tv series are making one called Sanctuary For All
22:05.13fixtzeit still opens for emulators/cracks but it's not as good
22:05.18kaidenthey sell the episodes online in high quality for 1.99 each
22:05.21vodrincan be selective with who you start litigation with with copyright
22:05.28vodrinits patents you must protect
22:05.47kaidenpatents are retarded also
22:05.58fixtzepatents have gotten way out of hand
22:06.01Kalman|Patents are a perfectly good idea, they just have a very poor implementation at this point.
22:06.15*** join/#wowace Kyron (i=kyron@cc1167305-a.groni1.gr.home.nl)
22:06.15kaidencompany abcd who has never worked with the idea or system of patent xxxxy however they packet it
22:06.18kaidenerm patent it
22:06.23vodrinthey have become to generalized
22:06.26kaidenand sue company abcdefgh? and make millions
22:06.26NightHawkTheSanepatents are fine in the abstract, its just yes, they've gotten out of hand and have allowed pattenting on things that have no right to be pattented
22:06.34vodrinsuch farcical little thing
22:06.47fixtzeI like how blizz does it by making VERY good Multiplayer games that require b.net
22:06.52fixtzei like how valve has done it with steam
22:06.58fixtzeI HATE how retards that used starforce did it
22:07.02fixtzestarforce is the worst crap ever
22:07.04kaidenknowledge should NOT be so tightly bound imo
22:07.13fixtzeI hate Westwood for their Idiotic copyprotection on CNC3 that fucks your computer
22:07.27fixtzelobbyists and money sadly rule the world kaiden
22:07.34kaideni know
22:07.41kaidendoesn't mean i have to like it though :)
22:07.48kaidenthat's the key reason we dont have a cure for cancer or aids
22:07.54kaidenand we dont have a cure for the common cold
22:08.00nevcairielor a clean power supply
22:08.02ckknighthey, money is important
22:08.09kaidenthey make far too much money off of the medicine to cure it
22:08.15AdirelleI'm wondering if it is really safe to store data in RosterLib unit tables
22:08.15NightHawkTheSanemoney is meaningless and arbitrary :P
22:08.36boobies4umoney rocks
22:08.43nevcairielwonder how far we could get in power technology without the oil lobby
22:08.49boobies4uif i had money id be sleeping with bill gates
22:09.06fixtzevery far
22:09.15vodrinthats the strangest thing i've ever heard boobies4u
22:09.19fixtzemy chemist-professor special field was alternate fuel
22:09.20kaidennevcairiel, if this world didn't have so many constraints on that we would have flying cars already i think
22:09.48kaidenfor the same reason if this world had been goverened by apples idea of how computers should be we wouldn't have so many advancements
22:09.52kaidenvariety is key :)
22:10.09NightHawkTheSane.. wait, what? how does stunted non-fossile fuel development have anything to do with flying cars?
22:10.27kaidenNightHawkTheSane, the natural laws of progression
22:10.31AtriaceAnd how can Apple be an example of non-innovation?
22:10.36NightHawkTheSanekaiden: no, it's a total non-sequitur.
22:10.44Kalman|I'm still trying to figure out why I'd *want* a flying car.
22:10.49NightHawkTheSanekaiden: the concept of 'flying cars' has nothing to do with the fuel source being used.
22:10.53Kalman|I'd rather not fall 1000 feet if my car breaks down.
22:10.55kaidenAtriace, what have they "innovated" mp3 players been there done that by 50 different companies they weren't the first
22:10.57NightHawkTheSaneKalman|: well that's something else entirely ;)
22:10.57kaidenthey were just the nicest
22:11.11kaidenNightHawkTheSane, if you re-read what i said i said constraints
22:11.14kaideni said nothing about fuels
22:11.20fixtzethey already made working flying cars
22:11.24fixtzeyou towed the wings on a trailer
22:11.24kaidenfixtze is the one that spoke about fuels
22:11.27NightHawkTheSaneit was in direct response to a topic about alternate fuel sources
22:11.29fixtzeyou had to stop the car
22:11.34fixtzethen move the hangar/car together
22:11.36kaidenno actually it wasn't
22:11.36fixtzemount the wings on the roof
22:11.39fixtzeand you could fly with the car
22:11.43kaidenbut thank you for telling me who i was responding to
22:11.54kenlyrichmmmm psychic scream (rank 1) should call that spell, right?
22:11.59NightHawkTheSanekaiden: you replied to nevcairiel, who was speaking directly about power technology, aka alternate fuels.
22:12.06kaidenit was a generic response to the idea of not progressing properly
22:12.08boobies4uhaha this is like watching my stoned buddys arguing about who invented the choclatebars
22:12.15kaidenre-read back up to the other things i said
22:12.54NightHawkTheSanei read it the first time, thanks.
22:12.59kaidenAtriace, also OS X == built on top of BSD, new apples, intel hardware.. again where's the innovation .. granted i do agree i love the look of their os the most
22:13.24Kalman|kenlyric: Psychic Scream(Rank 1) works for me.
22:13.26NightHawkTheSanemeh, i'm not getting involved in this high-schoolish amature whine fest, I should be programming. ><
22:13.43kenlyricoh, yeah, I just noticed there's not supposed to be a space.
22:13.43NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: no space between spell and rank parens i believe
22:14.03kaidenNightHawkTheSane, obviously not so much considering the only thing you've done since you got involved is tried to talk down to other people who were having a discussion which began from someone asking if mangos addons were allowed here
22:15.12NightHawkTheSaneI havne't talked down to anyone. At worst, i pointed out that alternate fuel -> flying cars is a non-sequitur. if you took personal offense to that, well.. that's your problem i guess :)
22:15.35boobies4uback to*
22:15.49sag_ich_nichtno
22:15.53sag_ich_nichtmaybe he's programming backs
22:15.55sag_ich_nicht;O
22:16.06boobies4uyea, true
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22:19.12sag_ich_nichtnow, could someone please help me and tell me how i could try and find out why cooldowncount isn't displaying cooldowns on MainMenuBar? :(
22:19.58kaidenOmniCC! (attempting a little leethal in this channel) :P
22:20.53Tullerwhat did I do?
22:20.56nevcairiellol
22:21.08nevcairielhighlight on your addons name eh ? :)
22:21.11kaidenTuller, <3 :)
22:21.59Tullerwell, duh :P
22:22.07CIA-2203roartindon * r38167 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: TagCompiler-1.0: Added chaining for bracketed primary values, as well as correct type guarantees
22:22.14CIA-2203ckknight * r38168 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
22:22.14CIA-22DogTag-1.0 - Added support for Threat-1.0.
22:22.14CIA-22- added tag Threat, which gets the player's threat on the current unit.
22:22.14CIA-22- added tag HighestThreat, which gets the highest party member's threat on the current unit.
22:22.14CIA-22- added tag TargetThreat, which gets the current player's threat on your target.
22:22.31CIA-2203roartindon * r38169 10Assessment/ (AssessmentTag.lua Modules/CombatTime.lua Modules/Threat.lua):
22:22.32CIA-22Assessment:
22:22.32CIA-22- Added maxTargetThreat, maxThreat, isPlayerInCombat, isInCombat tags
22:22.32CIA-22- These allow for, eg. the FuBar text to display threat deficit during combat with a tag like: Assessment [isInCombat:(maxTargetThreat-targetThreat):short:prefix(": ")]
22:22.37kaidenckknight, can you actually get that information from the api now?
22:22.41kaidenthe threats that is
22:23.02Roartindonckknight: Added highestTargetThreat :P
22:23.07Roartindonadd I mean
22:23.19ckknightRoartindon: okay
22:24.12RoartindonI can't believe we committed those almost simultaneously :)
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22:24.33CIA-2203ckknight * r38170 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added tag alias HighestTargetThreat = [HighestThreat#target]
22:25.15CIA-2203antiarc * r38171 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a typo in PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE
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22:30.57Kalman|The new "Show hostile nameplates only while in combat" feature in Aloft.... is there a way to turn it off?
22:31.04vodrin"DiffThreat, current player's threat compared to ToT's threat" maybe ?
22:32.21ckknightMissingThreat :-P
22:32.30ckknightI could
22:32.37ckknightand PercentThreat
22:33.15AntiarcHm. Looks Threat's memory usage slowly creeps up in combat, and doesn't seem to go away till I force a GC
22:33.26AntiarcVery slowly, like 1kb/3 sec or something like that
22:33.27AntiarcBut still
22:33.59CIA-2203ckknight * r38172 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfix for PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED
22:34.09ckknightcreated strings maybe?
22:34.26AntiarcMmm, perhaps.
22:37.47AntiarcI should go beat on the unkillables in Blasted Lands
22:38.28kergothhyperChipmunk, http://covenant.kergoth.com/files/bulkmail2-loadmanagers.patch
22:38.34kenlyriccan you make a macro activate a trinket in a specific slot *and* return feedback from the trinket?
22:38.39Roartindonkalami: There isn't a feature in Aloft for that
22:38.51RoartindonKalami: If that's happening, it's probably Automaton that you have installed
22:39.13kaidenKalman|, type /auto plates
22:39.16Kalman|Roartindon: Wrong person, right answer.  Thanks.  :)
22:39.19hyperChipmunkkergoth: sweet
22:39.45RoartindonKalman|: Oops.. tab complete ftl.. :)
22:41.01CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r38173 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail2.toc):
22:41.02CIA-22BulkMail2:
22:41.02CIA-22- Added kergoth's LoD support patch
22:41.16IndustrialI got an error with PitBull with Thread-1.0 with AceComm-2.0. There is no AceComm-2.0.
22:41.26kergothnymbia, <3 forkliftgnome
22:41.28IndustrialIm only loading pitbull, nothing else
22:41.37Industrialkergoth: got my reply on the ff screenshot?
22:41.41Fisker-nymbia
22:41.44kergothnaw, what was it?
22:41.45Fisker-i wanted to talk to you :(
22:41.45IndustrialThreat*
22:41.51Industriallemme see :>
22:41.56kaidenok what exactly is forklift gnome
22:42.01kaideni got it and installed it but i haven't looked yet
22:42.03kenlyricand to answewr my own question, yes there is.
22:42.07kaidenthe name made me laugh when i saw it :)
22:42.15kergothkaiden, its like supplyanddemand, an addon to act as a manager for lod addons
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22:42.28hyperChipmunkA gnome with a forklift to load up addons and knock holes in your walls. (Nymbia)
22:42.31kergothhehe
22:42.42nymbiahuhwha
22:42.46nymbia~flee
22:42.59purlACTION runs away screaming
22:42.59kergothi like the X-LoadOn-Slash
22:42.59Fisker-nooo
22:42.59Fisker-don't ~flee
22:43.03kergothlike the feature from Stubby
22:43.04Fisker-Why did my pt3bar recieve extra padding? :<
22:43.05kaidenah, all these addons with weird names confuse me
22:43.05hyperChipmunkanother addon for my g/f to d/l without knowing what it does =\
22:43.08NightHawkTheSane.. who installs addons without seeing what they do first? o_0 :P
22:43.09kaidenlike SpyGnome
22:43.14kergothsomeone should patch up the auctioneer addons to rely on forkliftgnome instead of stubby
22:43.15NightHawkTheSanei mean, aside from hyperChipmunk's spaz of a gf ;)
22:43.15nymbiaFisker-: i didnt do it
22:43.20Fisker-:(
22:43.25Fisker-wtb padding control then
22:43.29bigzeroNeed some input on mod name...made a mod, named it, now appearently there was someone else with the same mod name...grrrr. The mod allows you to preview weapon enchant glows in the dressup frame. Named it firefly originally, now need another name...
22:43.30hyperChipmunkgnomes are cute!
22:43.37Industrialckknight: Threat-1.0 needs AceComm. PitBull doesnt load it.
22:43.37kaidengnomes are adorable :)
22:43.46NightHawkTheSaneboth of those are patently lies.
22:43.52ckknightIndustrial: dang, okay
22:43.54hyperChipmunkOMGGlow
22:43.56NightHawkTheSaneGnomes are responsible for all the world's ills.
22:43.59NightHawkTheSanejust ask nymbia
22:44.04Kalman|bigzero: Oooh, Shiny?
22:44.05nymbiaseriously
22:44.10kaidenbigzero, name it GlowHo
22:44.13Antiarcbigzero: GlowAway
22:44.18hyperChipmunkhehe
22:44.32bigzerohehe, I like OMGlow :-)
22:44.39Roartindonckknight: I had to add quite a few externs for Threat-1.0.. including BabbleSpell and BabbleBoss
22:44.46NightHawkTheSaneI like `Shiny`
22:44.51kaidenyou only like it because he's a chipmunk
22:44.51CIA-2203ckknight * r38174 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc libs/): PitBull - add AceComm to toc.
22:44.55kaidenif he were a rooster would you like it
22:44.58kaidenhyperrooster
22:45.02ckknightah, dang
22:45.03Adirellehmm... I hesitate, should I test my thing before commiting or be funny and commit it right now ?
22:45.09Kalman|NightHawkTheSane: The name as intended was "Oooh, Shiny".
22:45.13Roartindonckknight: And SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0
22:45.21NightHawkTheSaneKalman|: yeah, i gathered, but I like just "Shiny" ;)
22:45.25bigzerokaiden, of course not
22:45.32kaidenbigzero, hehe ;)
22:45.54hasteOMGlow, so similar to oGlow! *hides*
22:46.05kaidenyeah too similar
22:46.32AntiarcTooPoorToBuyRealEnchants
22:46.38kaidenperfect!
22:46.50bigzerowhat's oglow?
22:47.03AntiarcAlso, I am so sad, I just got Mongoose on my Gladiator fists and the enchant doesn't show up :(
22:47.08AntiarcBecause the fists have an inherent glow
22:47.11Industrialkergoth: http://www.tinypic.us/images/79277untitled.PNG
22:47.12NightHawkTheSaneAnyone here -really- good with Smarty?
22:47.14bigzeroAntiarc, powned
22:47.26bigzeroAntiarc, should've gotten my mod :-P
22:47.26CIA-2203ckknight * r38175 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc libs/): PitBull - add SEEA and Babble-Boss
22:47.49Antiarcbigzero: Hehe
22:47.54AntiarcWell, I wanted the enchant anyway :P
22:48.10bigzeroAntiarc, then you wouldn't have had to waste money on useless chants like mongoose...i mean come on
22:48.30hyperChipmunkwtb mongoose on my rifle
22:48.32josh|maI'm on google code, and now I don't know which license I have to use for the addon I want to host there... Could anyoe please help me?
22:49.02hasteIndustrial: still like my firefox over yours :D
22:49.04bigzeromeh, OMGlow it is...now to rename all the shit in the code
22:49.10kaidenjosh|ma, use GPL
22:49.18josh|mak
22:49.21kaidenbigzero, oGlow is Hastes bag glow thingy
22:49.22kaideni think
22:49.24kaidenisn't it haste?
22:49.33hastehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7142 << that's oGlow
22:49.38kaidenmakes the borders glow in bags
22:49.55NightHawkTheSanejosh|ma: google the licences, read up on them, and then decide what you want.
22:50.09Industrialhaste:  :P
22:50.18Industrialhaste: couldnt get used to the vim-> ff thing :<
22:50.27hasteaaw :(
22:50.33kaidenbigzero, you could follow the trend and name it Doberman
22:50.36kaiden;P
22:50.56hyperChipmunkGlow Worm
22:50.57bigzerohmmm....Shiny...sounds too common, need to check if there isn't one already
22:51.37kaidenbe the first addon with a # in it name it Glow4me
22:51.48kaidens/it/it's
22:51.54hastelots of addons with numbers in them
22:51.58hyperChipmunkfoo2
22:52.00hyperChipmunkfoo3
22:52.02hasteusually at the end however
22:52.07CIA-2203ckknight * r38176 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua:
22:52.07CIA-22DogTag-1.0 - renamed HighestThreat => MaxThreat, HighestTargetThreat => MaxTargetThreat, to keep things consistent.
22:52.07CIA-22- added tags PercentThreat, MissingThreat, FractionalThreat, PercentTargetThreat, MissingTargetThreat, and FractionalTargetThreat
22:52.17kaidentrue but i meant leet speak sorry
22:52.18kaiden;p
22:52.25ckknightdon't go with another dog name for a mod, go with some other animal
22:52.26kaidenor internet shorthand
22:52.27ckknightimho
22:52.31kaidengl0w3y
22:53.08kergothIndustrial, nice.  you should get the stylish script to combine the reload/stop buttons and animate the stop button as the throbber :)
22:53.16bigzeroI think I got it....GlowFoSho
22:53.35hyperChipmunkShowGlow
22:54.02ckknightGlowFoSho is awesome
22:54.11kaideni agree
22:54.14bigzero:-)
22:54.17kergothjesus christ, enhtooltip is like 7 megs?
22:54.19kergothwhat the fuck
22:54.24ckknightBlingBlingMoFo
22:54.26hyperChipmunkGlowYo
22:54.35Nickenyfikenwhats enhtooltip?
22:54.42kaidenauctioneer addon isn't it?
22:54.44kergoththe silly extra tooltip that auctioneer & friends use
22:54.54kergothi love auctioneers features, but jesus
22:55.03kaideni just use KC_Items
22:55.06CIA-2203adirelle * r38177 10Violation/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
22:55.06CIA-22Violation:
22:55.07CIA-22- renamed minor methods and variables to better reflect what they do/are,
22:55.07CIA-22- added a method to check which user can provide data for which character (mainly handles pets for now, but could be extended in the future),
22:55.07CIA-22- updated all modules to use theses methods,
22:55.08CIA-22- a star (*) is appended to name of characters for which data may be inaccurate.
22:55.22bigzeroor would it be GloFoSho?
22:55.24Industrialkergoth: hmmm :)
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22:55.35kaidenbigzero, choose that or name it NancyBoy
22:55.38kaidenthe choice is yours! :P
22:55.55kenlyricfubar plugins need an option to disable tooltip.
22:55.58bigzerowhy does every choice have to be so hard QQ
22:56.08vodrinwtb multiple window support in violation <3
22:56.17kaidenYAY for that idea vodrin
22:56.33Industrialckknight: and finally AceDebug :P
22:56.42ckknightblah.
22:56.45Industrial^^
22:56.52RoartindonAntiarc: ping
22:57.04AntiarcPong
22:57.04ckknightAntiarc: why do you use AceDebug?
22:57.21Antiarcckknight: Copy/paste cruft!
22:57.22RoartindonI'm getting inconsistent results from ThreatLib:GetMaxThreatOnTarget and my own function that I wrote earlier
22:57.33RoartindonMy function iterates GetThreat on every threat list person
22:57.44sbuAdirelle: hm - inaccurate? when?
22:57.52RoartindonAntiarc: Could it be that GetMaxThreatOnTarget doesn't take global threat into account?
22:58.12Adirellesbu: data coming spied from damage meter, or simply parsed from combat log
22:58.14AntiarcRoartindon: Ah, it doesn't. Thanks.
22:58.15kenlyrici suppose I can get really sneaky and detach tooltip and move it off the screen.
22:58.21Adirelle(for player other that local player)
22:58.51sbuah ok, so for all ppl w/o violation
22:58.58Adirellethat's it
22:59.08RoartindonAntiarc: Was just weird when I was using a [maxthreat - threat] tag and seeing negative numbers when I changed my code to use the newer function :)
23:01.05josh|maoh nice... my first svn import hahaha :D
23:01.54AntiarcRoartindon: Heh, certainly. I'll see about getting it fixed up.
23:04.09bigzeroooo, talking about svn imports....I still haven't figured out how to do the initial import...It tells me to set my svn:eol-style, but I can't find where to set it
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23:04.59AntiarcWhat client are you using?
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23:05.18hyperChipmunkbigzero: use either autoprops or use 'svn mkdir' first
23:05.19NightHawkTheSanebigzero: svn properties, read the svn book. svnbook.red-bean.com/
23:05.22CIA-2203ckknight * r38178 10Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Threat-1.0 - remove AceDebug-2.0 references.
23:05.48ckknightIndustrial: done
23:06.25bigzeroAntiarc, tortoisesvn
23:06.43kergothbigzero, the error you see points you at the wiki, and the wiki tells you how to set up autoprops..
23:06.50kergothbigzero, read it.
23:06.53Finc:\documents and settings\your username\application data\
23:06.54Antiarcbigzero: File properties, SVN tab, properties button, type in svn:eol-style in the dropdown box, then "native" in the textarea.
23:06.59bigzeroNightHawkTheSane, the tutorial tells me to set it in the TortoiseSVN tab of the folder properties...but I don't have that tab
23:07.15kergothand you wont, until its an svn working copy.
23:07.19kergothagain, follow the auto props instructions.
23:07.22Finc:\documents and settings\your username\application data\subversion\*
23:07.37Fins'where mine is anyway
23:07.51bigzerokergoth, alright, will follow the tutorial all from the begining again
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23:08.03kergothright click on a folder, click tortoisesvn, click settings..
23:08.17bigzerokergoth, no esta alli
23:08.17kergoththis isnt rocket science.  you're adding some lines to a configuration file
23:08.26NightHawkTheSaneFin: mine's in ~/.svn/* but meh ;)
23:08.30Industrialckknight: kay
23:08.38FinNightHawkTheSane: meh indeed
23:10.00CIA-2203ckknight * r38179 10PitBull/BarFader/BarFader.lua: PitBull_BarFader - bugfix
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23:10.47CIA-2203antiarc * r38180 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix :GetMaxThreatOnTarget to include global threat
23:10.50NightHawkTheSanealso, writing out html forms is a freaking pain in the ass.
23:11.43ckknighttrue
23:15.51ZealotOnAStickIs Threat in Standalone Libraries yet?
23:16.06ZealotOnAStickAnd, on that note, Roartindon's Tag-Compiler needs to be added to it.
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23:19.02ckknightI'll handle it
23:19.31Kirkburn|afkI do love Steam's surveys - http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html
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23:20.28kenlyricman, 4 people playing on 8cpu systems :)
23:20.47CIA-2203roartindon * r38181 10Assessment/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
23:20.47CIA-22Assessment
23:20.47CIA-22- Changed how bar colors are determined so that a priority list can be defined and applied. Only one module so far, so you only get class coloration :)
23:21.02CIA-2203ckknight * r38182 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (TagCompiler-1.0/ Threat-1.0/ filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries - add Threat-1.0 and TagCompiler-1.0
23:21.45Roartindonckknight: thanks
23:21.46Kirkburn|afkckknight, your earlier Cart fix - was that for zone levels?
23:21.53ckknightno
23:22.00Kirkburn|afkoh
23:22.07ckknightwhat about zone levels?
23:22.20Kirkburn|afkThey haven't been showing for me for the last few days
23:22.39Kirkburn|afkFine when rolling over towns, but not zones
23:23.03durcynhmm, i see that too.
23:23.29Kirkburn|afkThere was a thread on, don't recall where - am lookingg
23:23.40Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6485.0
23:23.50CIA-2203aurimas * r38183 10GlowFoSho/:
23:23.50CIA-22GlowFoSho: initial commit
23:23.50CIA-22- Allows user to preview weapon enchant glows in the Dressing Room.
23:24.00Kirkburn|afk(looking, and failing to type proper)
23:24.50kaidenyay bigzero
23:24.55kenlyricworks for me ok... i just used it this morning to check on ragefire chasm
23:25.24bigzerokaiden, idk about that yay...that was an empty folder...and the tab still does not appear
23:25.55Kirkburn|afkkenlyric, what do you mean? I'm talking about zone levels, like Elwynn, Durotar, etc
23:26.05josh|mais CIA-22 a bot?
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23:26.17kenlyricoh, yeah, I guess it doesn't.
23:26.24Kirkburn|afkNo, it's a very bored person with a lot of time on his hands? :P
23:26.25Kalman|Nah, it's just a guy with a lot of time on his hands.
23:26.29kergothjosh|ma: no, he just types really really fast, and in the same format every time
23:26.29Kirkburn|afkHah!
23:26.30AntiarcHahahah
23:26.40Kirkburn|afkThat's just scary.
23:26.42Kalman|Damn you, Kirkburn!  Damn you!
23:26.43josh|macool :B
23:27.29Kirkburn|afkOh god, it's got the auto-respond emote thing :/
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23:27.56CIA-22ow
23:29.21Kirkburn|afkckknight, could be a Babble issue?
23:29.30ckknight<PROTECTED>
23:29.42ckknightprobably due to the way the framelevels work now
23:29.45ckknightMikk messed with it
23:30.00Kirkburn|afk:O
23:30.12Kirkburn|afkThat Mikk, he should get back to helping me on the wiki :(
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23:30.59kaidenthat kirkburn fella sure is a punk
23:31.07kaiden:P
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23:31.29Kirkburn|afkThat was odd timing
23:31.33kaidenKirkburn|afk, so i notice just before sylvanaar left he added the ability to change fonts in the chatframe
23:31.44LePeR|JauniaThreat-1.0-38180 (Threat-1.0):463: Error: PublishThreat() has been called without an active class module :(
23:31.52Kirkburn|afkkaiden, not tried it myself
23:33.09CIA-2203ckknight * r38184 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make partyMemberRevisions a local table instead of a field
23:34.54RoartindonLePeR|Jaunia: I believe that's an error that can occur during login
23:35.03RoartindonBut shouldn't occur after
23:35.20CIA-2203ckknight * r38185 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make lastSentThreat a local table instead of a field
23:36.36kergothnymbia, ever seen [2007/06/02 16:34:28-1315-x1]: ForkliftGnome-1.0\Conditions.lua:141: attempt to index local 'module' (a number value) ?
23:36.59sbuis http://www.thottbot.com/i32902 in PT3?
23:37.06sbuif not: wtb :p
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23:37.22ChompersThreat worked really well in steamvaults, first boss was great with multiple threat targets
23:37.30Chompersyay for Threat-1.0 :D
23:37.49kaidenso quick question, is Omen being built around threat?
23:37.58kaidenor is threat your version of ktm/omen ckknight?
23:37.59RoartindonOmen is the front end for Threat
23:38.08hyperChipmunkomen is a debug gui for threat
23:38.09nymbiakergoth: nope. lemme take a look
23:38.09CIA-2203ckknight * r38186 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make lastPartySize a local table instead of a field. Renamed currentPartySize
23:38.17ckknightkaiden: Threat-1.0 is a library which Omen uses
23:38.26ckknightprimarily Antiarc's project
23:38.33ckknightI just audit it every so often
23:39.09kaidenawesome
23:39.12nymbiakergoth: er.. somehow :GetModule returned a number?  that's a bit.. confusing.
23:39.17ckknightmostly optimizations and such
23:39.19kergothquite
23:39.38kergothAssessment-1.0\Modules\UserInterface.lua:291: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
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23:39.41Ordoguhm, got any idea why the character portraits and the charackter screen fullview are switched for me?
23:40.49Roartindonkergoth: Let me check
23:41.03Roartindonkergoth: Updated recently?
23:41.30kergothyep, thats when it started :)
23:41.34Roartindonmight need you to reset your SVs
23:41.42kergothk, will try it
23:41.45Roartindonor add in the line colorTypeList   = { "Class", count = 1 }, for your own custom display sets
23:41.47CIA-2203ckknight * r38187 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - fix :IterateGroupThreatForTarget to return the iterator properly.
23:41.54theoddone33http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/7666/bracketsiu7.jpg
23:42.00theoddone33if anyone cares about the 5v5 tourney
23:42.04boobies4udamn ckknight, you are so efficient
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23:42.09boobies4upure coding machine
23:42.21ckknightlol
23:42.45CIA-2203aurimas * r38188 10GlowFoSho/ (. GlowFoSho.lua GlowFoSho.toc Locale-enUS.lua):
23:42.45CIA-22GlowFoSho:
23:42.45CIA-22- Added addon files
23:43.22bigzeroalright, I think it's "yay" now
23:44.55theoddone33leeroy jenkins was one of the commentators at the tournament
23:46.34kergothRoartindon, after wiping my sv the error no longer occurs (though i hadnt created any new custom display sets, had only modified the text font settings for the existing ones) :)
23:47.02Roartindonkergoth: Yeah, it was the display sets.. I added that colorTypeList field
23:47.05bigzeroerr, quick question...any chance of changing my username for the svn repo...idk why my actual name was used...I did request for access as bigzero
23:47.11kergothcool
23:47.13kergothall better now
23:47.21hyperChipmunkbigzero: gotta talk to kael
23:47.27bigzerokk
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23:48.15kergothone curious thing is that my pet no longer shows up on the threat window though
23:48.41hyperChipmunkyea, still does that for me on dismounting sometimes
23:48.55sbunymbia? :)
23:48.56hyperChipmunkif you dismiss and resummon it you're ok
23:48.56kergothdidnt dismount though, just logged in, created the threat window, and attacked something
23:48.57kergothheh
23:49.32hyperChipmunkoh, that too
23:49.34hyperChipmunk=P
23:49.40CIA-2203roartindon * r38189 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Changed GetMaxThreatOnTarget to use gHash instead of HexCheckSum["_GLOBAL_"]
23:50.27Roartindonkergoth: Most likely Threat-1.0 related :) I need a hunter/warlock to test pet stuff better :)
23:50.32kergothstill nothing, going to enable omen and compare
23:50.38kergothworked fine before today's updates
23:50.55Roartindonkergoth: let me know
23:51.42kergothheh, dismissing the pet and bringing him back didnt fix it
23:51.49kergothbut after a reloadui, he shows up in omen and assessment both
23:52.17AntiarcI should change gHash to GHASH
23:52.42kenlyricdo the filtering options in corkfu actually do anything?
23:53.01kenlyricok, I guess I should say "are they supposed to do anything"
23:53.39RoartindonAntiarc: ThreatLib:GetMaxThreatOnTarget - should max/maxName be initialised to the player's global threat and name?
23:54.29RoartindonReason is, if you have a group of mobs.. X, Y, Z.. and two are attacked, and healer heals.. Z will show up as having 0 threat, because no one has it as a target
23:54.40Roartindonhmm.. that's not quite right either
23:54.42CIA-2203ckknight * r38190 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - change :IterateGroupThreatForTarget to sort by threat descending. API doesn't change.
23:55.03ckknightAntiarc: I'd say GLOBAL_HASH'd be better
23:55.42RoartindonAntiarc: Ignore me, I misread the code.
23:56.52Roartindonkergoth: And disabling omen still shows pet threat in the UI properly after?
23:56.54CIA-2203ckknight * r38191 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua Threat-1.0.lua): Threat-1.0 - make it so that .new, .del, etc are cleared in Threat-1.0.lua, makes the structure make more sense.
23:57.47CIA-2203ckknight * r38192 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - rename gHash to GLOBAL_HASH.
23:59.24RoartindonWhoa.. Threat-1.0 has a PrintLiteral stuck in it still
23:59.27RoartindonOkay if I remove it?
23:59.31Antiarc"beta software"
23:59.34Antiarc<_<
23:59.35AntiarcWhere is it?
23:59.40RoartindonIn the GetMaxThreatOnTarget
23:59.46ckknightlol, Antiarc
23:59.53QuantumDelta:D
23:59.54AntiarcHeh, yes, that's fine

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